planned strike for this weekend . n0 planned strike for this weekend . no more. not to the extent it was supposed to be, because the government has won its challenge in the courts. the rcn leader, though, the union leader, she says it is one of the darkest days in the negotiations of the strikes. now, before you all start shouting at me, i want to make my point clear. start shouting at me, i want to make my point clear . yes, make my point clear. yes, i support a pay rise for our hard working nurses, but i think the way that the rcn are going about things now is absolutely wrong. where do you stand on it.7 all

and in this country, do you think we should be doing more or less drilling for oil and gas.7 there less drilling for oil and gas? there will be a legal challenge now to some of the government's plans. what says you and the king's coronation? should sinn fein be invited? should they be in attendance? that has divided opinion. and when it comes to children doing wrong and the wrong, i want to focus on tonight is the horrific bullying that goes on, which is then filmed and shared far and wide on social media, devastating the lives of children where does the buck stop for this? i am saying it's you, the parents. if you cannot control your children, if you cannot raise them to be decent human beings , then you decent human beings, then you will be on the hook for it. i reckon you should get charged . reckon you should get charged. charged if your child does such things . what do you make to it things. what do you make to it all? your thoughts on it all. but before we get into it, let's bnng but before we get into it, let's bring ourselves up speed with bring ourselves up to speed with tonight's headlines.

tonight's latest headlines. michelle, thank you . good michelle, thank you. good evening to you. the- f good evening to you. the top story on gb evening to you. the top story on ea news— evening to you. the top story on gb news tonight,— evening to you. the top story on gb news tonight, the foreign secretary— gb news tonight, the foreign secretary says— gb news tonight, the foreign secretary says the government's continuing— secretary says the government's continuing no— secretary says the government's continuing to assist british nationals— continuing to assist british nationals in— continuing to assist british nationals in leaving sudan. he's urgen— nationals in leaving sudan. he's urged nnen— nationals in leaving sudan. he's urged nnen no— nationals in leaving sudan. he's urged them to make their way to the urged them to make their way to nne annon— urged them to make their way to nne nnnon non— urged them to make their way to the airport for evacuation as soon as possible— the airport for evacuation as soon as possible . well, soon as possible. well, meanwhile,— soon as possible. well, meanwhile, british forces are racing— meanwhile, british forces are racing in— meanwhile, british forces are racing to rescue— meanwhile, british forces are racing to rescue as many people as they— racing to rescue as many people as iney can— racing to rescue as many people as they can before— racing to rescue as many people as they can before the ceasefire ends— as they can before the ceasefire enis ni— as they can before the ceasefire ends at midnight— as they can before the ceasefire ends at midnight tonight. the us seneinn— ends at midnight tonight. the us seneinn oi— ends at midnight tonight. the us secretary of state— ends at midnight tonight. the us secretary of state antony niinken— secretary of state antony blinken, says— secretary of state antony blinken, says the focus is winnin— blinken, says the focus is currently on _ blinken, says the focus is currently on extending that ceeceiiie— currently on extending that ceeceiiie .— currently on extending that ceasefire . he— currently on extending that ceasefire . he hopes there'll be ceasefire. he hopes there'll be more information— ceasefire. he hopes there'll be more information in the coming noun.— more information in the coming nonn- incre— more information in the coming hours. more than— more information in the coming hours. more than 897 british ciiizenc— hours. more than 897 british citizens have— hours. more than 897 british citizens have been flown to scien— citizens have been flown to ceieiy en— citizens have been flown to safety on eight— citizens have been flown to safety on eight uk flights with the government— safety on eight uk flights with the government saying that nncnei— the government saying that number will— the government saying that number will rise and 16,000 pecnie— number will rise and 16,000 peepie nie— number will rise and 16,000 people are thought to have fled the people are thought to have fled ine connin— people are thought to have fled the country across— people are thought to have fled the country across the border ince— the country across the border inic egypti— the country across the border into egypt, including 14,000 siennece— into egypt, including 14,000 sudanese james cleverly says the uk sudanese james cleverly says the un ic— sudanese james cleverly says the in is new— sudanese james cleverly says the uk is now looking— sudanese james cleverly says the uk is now looking into assisting ccnnneci— uk is now looking into assisting countries with— uk is now looking into assisting countries with no— uk is now looking into assisting countries with no diplomatic peence in— countries with no diplomatic presence in sudan . iii" presence in sudan. for those on the ground, as you would expect, we are prioritising those in greatest need through allocating

seats based on vulnerability . seats based on vulnerability. motty starting with families with children, the elderly , the with children, the elderly, the disabled or people with documented medical conditions . documented medical conditions. we have been notifying british nationals registered with us about the about the evacuation flights as well as announcing them through our travel advice and also through organic social media networks of british nationals in sudan. foreign secretary james cleverly there now a murder investigation has been launched into the death of a pregnant teacher in glasgow. moral . sturrock was found dead moral. sturrock was found dead on ineciey— moral. sturrock was found dead on tuesday morning. she was 29 weeke— on tuesday morning. she was 29 weeks pregnanc— on tuesday morning. she was 29 weeks pregnant. her baby didn't ennive— weeks pregnant. her baby didn't ennive .— weeks pregnant. her baby didn't survive . there's— weeks pregnant. her baby didn't survive . there's a— weeks pregnant. her baby didn't survive . there's a manhunt survive. there's a manhunt underway— survive. there's a manhunt nnienicy new— survive. there's a manhunt underway now for her fiance, devin— underway now for her fiance, nevii veiec. — underway now for her fiance, david yates. his— underway now for her fiance, david yates. his car was found at david yates. his car was found ei iineicck— david yates. his car was found at mugdock country park, where nciice— at mugdock country park, where nciice nie— at mugdock country park, where eeiice new— at mugdock country park, where police are now focusing their ceecn— police are now focusing their ceecn ine— police are now focusing their search. the rmt_ police are now focusing their search. the rmt union has announced workers across 14 new— announced workers across 14 train operators— announced workers across 14 train operators will walk out on the train operators will walk out on we iein — train operators will walk out on we iein ei— train operators will walk out on the 13th of may.— train operators will walk out on the 13th of may. they've ceieciei— the 13th of may. they've rejected their- the 13th of may. they've rejected their latest pay offer

. ine— rejected their latest pay offer . ine geneni— rejected their latest pay offer . the general secretary, mick iwncn— . the general secretary, mick iwncn ,— . the general secretary, mick iwncn , cieinc— . the general secretary, mick lynch , claims the rail delivery lynch, claims the rail delivery group— lynch, claims the rail delivery 9roup nec— lynch, claims the rail delivery 9roup nee new— lynch, claims the rail delivery group has now reneged on their enginei— group has now reneged on their original proposal,— group has now reneged on their original proposal, offering 5% ii— original proposal, offering 5% increase if the _ original proposal, offering 5% increase if the union ends iniwcwiei— increase if the union ends industrial action and earlier, asiii— industrial action and earlier, asiii scie— industrial action and earlier, aslef said its— industrial action and earlier, aslef said its train drivers are eienning— aslef said its train drivers are eienning iniee— aslef said its train drivers are planning three new strike dates ener— planning three new strike dates eiiei wining— planning three new strike dates after turning down a 4% pay nee— after turning down a 4% pay inew-ie— after turning down a 4% pay rise. they're scheduled across mav— rise. they're scheduled across new eni— rise. they're scheduled across may and inne— rise. they're scheduled across may and iwne ,— rise. they're scheduled across may and june , with one of the may and june, with one of the newc— may and june, with one of the days coinciding— may and june, with one of the days coinciding with the fa cup iinei— days coinciding with the fa cup iinei .— days coinciding with the fa cup iinei . ine— days coinciding with the fa cup final . the royal— days coinciding with the fa cup final . the royal college of final. the royal college of wining— final. the royal college of nursing nec— final. the royal college of nursing has been forced to cut enen— nursing has been forced to cut enen e— nursing has been forced to cut enen e eence— nursing has been forced to cut short a strike action planned for short a strike action planned iei inic— short a strike action planned for this weekend— short a strike action planned for this weekend after the government— for this weekend after the government won a legal challenge in ine— government won a legal challenge in we nign— government won a legal challenge in the high court— government won a legal challenge in the high court ruled that part— in the high court ruled that new ei— in the high court ruled that can ei ineii— in the high court ruled that part of their 48— in the high court ruled that part of their 48 hour walkout on iweceew— part of their 48 hour walkout on iweceew wewii— part of their 48 hour walkout on tuesday would be— part of their 48 hour walkout on tuesday would be unlawful. as the tuesday would be unlawful. as we iccnc— tuesday would be unlawful. as we iccnc cin— tuesday would be unlawful. as the chs six month mandate for eence— the chs six month mandate for since eciien— the chs six month mandate for strike action would have run out the strike action would have run out we inw— strike action would have run out ine new ieieie. — strike action would have run out the day before. more nurses have been— the day before. more nurses have been eieieciing— the day before. more nurses have been protesting outside the cewn,— been protesting outside the court, some signs reading nurses being— court, some signs reading nurses ieing ciiencei— court, some signs reading nurses ieing ciiencei ic— court, some signs reading nurses being silenced is silencing eeiienic— being silenced is silencing eeiienic .— being silenced is silencing patients . the— being silenced is silencing patients . the chs general patients. the chs general cecceiecw— patients. the chs general secretary, pat— patients. the chs general secretary, pat cullen , says the secretary, pat cullen, says the geweinneni— secretary, pat cullen, says the government has— secretary, pat cullen, says the government has lost the trust. wew— government has lost the trust. wew ei— government has lost the trust. now of nurses— government has lost the trust. now of nurses and the public. inn— now of nurses and the public. inic ic— now of nurses and the public. inic is ine— now of nurses and the public. this is the darkest— now of nurses and the public. this is the darkest day- now of nurses and the public. this is the darkest day in- now of nurses and the public. this is the darkest day in this dispute so far.

this is the darkest day in this dispute so far . any government dispute so far. any government that would drag their nursing staff through the courts as they've won their legal battle today. they've won their legal battle today . but what this has to led today. but what this has to led is they've lost nursing and they've lost the public. they've taken the most trusted profession in through the courts by the least trusted people . by the least trusted people. cullen speaking there. well, the parliamentary cg. \. g sizriz; well, the parliamentary under—secretary for parliamentary under—secretary iei neeiin— parliamentary under—secretary for health, maria— parliamentary under—secretary for health, maria caulfield, says— for health, maria caulfield, cewc ene— for health, maria caulfield, cewc cne ic— for health, maria caulfield, says she is hopeful negotiations wiii— says she is hopeful negotiations wiii new— says she is hopeful negotiations wiii ne— says she is hopeful negotiations will now be able— says she is hopeful negotiations will now be able to start . �*vw�*iz; will now be able to start. we necenigce— will now be able to start. we recognise that— will now be able to start. we recognise that every- will now be able to start. we recognise that every day of strike has an impact on patients . it's outpatient appointments cancelled tests, cancelled operations cancelled and absolutely , you know, we don't absolutely, you know, we don't want to stop the right to strike, but it has to be done in a legal way. and that's why the secretary of state took the action. he did. hopefully we can then get people back around the table, particularly the rcn, to try come to a resolution try and come to a resolution overall, schools in england are facing disruption today as tens of thousands of teachers have gone strike. national

gone on strike. national iiwceiien— gone on strike. national education union- 3 iii" national education union members have weikei— education union members have weikei eni— education union members have walked out over— education union members have walked out over pay year 11 and year— walked out over pay year 11 and year is— walked out over pay year 11 and year 13 classes.— walked out over pay year 11 and year 13 classes. they say are being— year 13 classes. they say are being prioritised— year 13 classes. they say are being prioritised with exams inci— being prioritised with exams iwci weeke— being prioritised with exams just weeks away. but more cwikec— just weeks away. but more strikes have— just weeks away. but more strikes have been announced for the strikes have been announced for we ciwnne— strikes have been announced for the summer after— strikes have been announced for the summer after union members reg-eccen— the summer after union members ieieciei ine — the summer after union members rejected the government's pay ener— rejected the government's pay eiiei .— rejected the government's pay eiiei . ine— rejected the government's pay offer . the government's unveiled offer. the government's unveiled the offer. the government's unveiled ine iiggeci— offer. the government's unveiled the biggest shake— offer. the government's unveiled the biggest shake up of gambling iewc— the biggest shake up of gambling iewc in— the biggest shake up of gambling iewc in is— the biggest shake up of gambling laws in 15 years. _ the biggest shake up of gambling laws in 15 years. it— the biggest shake up of gambling laws in 15 years. it says it cinc— laws in 15 years. it says it ee— laws in 15 years. it says it aims to redress- laws in 15 years. it says it aims to redress the power neience— aims to redress the power balance between punters and energies. — balance between punters and operators. check— balance between punters and operators. check acas to better nieieci— operators. check acas to better eieieci een— operators. check acas to better protect even those _ operators. check acas to better protect even those unable to new — protect even those unable to afford small— protect even those unable to afford small losses are among ineii— afford small losses are among ineii pinne— afford small losses are among ineii nienc ,— afford small losses are among their plans , as— afford small losses are among their plans , as well as maximum their plans, as well as maximum sickes— their plans, as well as maximum ciekec nei— their plans, as well as maximum stakes for online_ their plans, as well as maximum stakes for online slot machines. ine— stakes for online slot machines. ine cwiiwe— stakes for online slot machines. the culture secretary, lucy inzei— the culture secretary, lucy inzei says— the culture secretary, lucy frazer says the _ the culture secretary, lucy frazer says the laws need weeeiing— frazer says the laws need weeeiing . — frazer says the laws need updating . the- frazer says the laws need updating . c frazer says the laws need- updating . the last time we made updating. the last time we made gambling changes in 2005 and gambling changes in 2005 and gambling has changed so significantly since then . it significantly since then. it used to be all land based gambling and now with the advent of the internet, everyone now has a smartphone in their pocket and they've basically got a casino which is available to them 24 over seven. so it's

really right that we bring in these groundbreaking changes really significant measures in order to bring gambling up to the technical, technological age . us talk show host jerry spnnger . us talk show host jerry springer has died at the age of 79. he was a prominent figure on american— 79. he was a prominent figure on american iv— "9 he was a prominent figure on american tv networks for "ea he was a prominent figure on american tv networks for nearly ince— american tv networks for nearly three decades. _ american tv networks for nearly three decades. best known for enewcecing— three decades. best known for showcasing everyday family enmes— showcasing everyday family dramas on his— showcasing everyday family dramas on his show, television nic— dramas on his show, television nic ceceni— dramas on his show, television was his second career, though nei— was his second career, though he'd previously— was his second career, though he'd previously been a politician— he'd previously been a politician and served as mayor of cincinnati,— politician and served as mayor of cincinnati, the— politician and served as mayor of cincinnati, the british american— of cincinnati, the british american passed away peacefully . at american passed away peacefully . iii nic— american passed away peacefully . iii nic neme— american passed away peacefully . at his home in— american passed away peacefully . at his home in chicago, jerry swinger,— . at his home in chicago, jerry swinger, wne— . at his home in chicago, jerry springer, who has— . at his home in chicago, jerry springer, who has died at the age— springer, who has died at the age ei— springer, who has died at the age ei 79.— springer, who has died at the age of 79. you're— springer, who has died at the age of 79. you're up to date on tv age of 79. you're up to date on iv eniine— age of 79. you're up to date on tv online dab+_ age of 79. you're up to date on tv online dab+ radio and on tune in. inic— tv online dab+ radio and on tune in. we ic— tv online dab+ radio and on tune in. we is en— tv online dab+ radio and on tune in. this is gb news,— tv online dab+ radio and on tune in. this is gb news, britain's news. channel i thanks- news. channel l thanks for.

news. channel thanks for that, polly. well, i news. channel thanksdewberry polly. well, i am michelle dewberry and i'm keeping you company right through 7:00 tonight through till 7:00 tonight alongside me, kevin a alongside me, kevin craig, a former labour councillor and the ceo communications company ceo of communications company ler, and habib, the ceo of ler, and ben habib, the ceo of first property group and a former brexit party mep. are you a candidate for reform or anything these days? well not in the forthcoming elections, but i did say i would stand in the general election. right. well, there you go. all about the politics here. by the way, jerry spnngen politics here. by the way, jerry springer, very sad news there. i don't know if i'm like the only person land that's never person in the land that's never seen a jerry springer show. have you? i have. it was long time you? i have. it was a long time age.— you? i have. it was a long time ege. ii— you? i have. it was a long time ege. ii wee— you? i have. it was a long time ege. ii ine— you? i have. it was a long time ago. it was the last— 7 i have. it was a long time ago. it was the last one i saw. i ago. it was the last one i saw. iinink— ago. it was the last one i saw. iinink ii— ago. it was the last one i saw. i think it must— ago. it was the last one i saw. i think it must have been about 20 ween— i think it must have been about ze ween age.— i think it must have been about 20 years ago. have— i think it must have been about 20 years ago. have you ever weicnei— 20 years ago. have you ever watched _yeah.j 20 years ago. have you ever- watched _yeah. have watched jerry lewis? yeah. have you?— watched jerry lewis? yeah. have you? yeah. he was a trailblazer for genre controversial for the genre of controversial chat he was great. chat shows, and he was great. yeah, he brought life. i cdould yeah, he brought life. i could eniw—weii.- yeah, he brought life. i could eniw—weii. nel only watch one. well, no, i haven't seen one for 20 years. oh, right. i believe he was a sound democrat politician in his day in the states. i might have that wrong, but political that wrong, but good political credentials. got that in credentials. i have got that in there straight away . no mess a

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wnei— anyway you know the drill, don't you? wnei ic— anyway you know the drill, don't you? what is your— anyway you know the drill, don't you? what is your thoughts on all you? what is your thoughts on eii ei— you? what is your thoughts on eii ei-geingc— you? what is your thoughts on all of-goings on- you? what is your thoughts on all of goings on of day? all of the goings on of the day? get all of the goings on of the day? ceiliewcn— all of the goings on of the day? get-touch-me.- all of the goings on of the day? get-touch-me. gb- all of the goings on of the day? get touch me. gb views get in touch with me. gb views at get in touch with me. gb views ei ce— get in touch with me. gb views ei en newc— get in touch with me. gb views at gb news. .uk_ get in touch with me. gb views at gb news. .uk is— get in touch with me. gb views at gb news. .uk is my email or you— at gb news. .uk is my email or wen cn— at gb news. .uk is my email or you iweei— at gb news. .uk is my email or you can tweet-at- at gb news. .uk is my email or you can tweet at gb news. you can tweet me at gb news. inci— you can tweet me at gb news. iini we,— you can tweet me at gb news. iini we, inewgn— you can tweet me at gb news. first up, though, i— you can tweet me at gb news. first up, though, i want to talk to.tiy_ first up, though, i want to talk ie-iw ine— first up, though, i want to talk ie-iw we we,— first up, though, i want to talk to-by the way, lots- first up, though, i want to talk to by the way, lots of you to you, by the way, lots of you geiiing— to you, by the way, lots of you geiiingliewcn— to you, by the way, lots of you getting touch about not my getting in touch about not my top getting in touch about not my iee ecen,— getting in touch about not my iee ecen, ini— getting in touch about not my iee ecen, ewe e— getting in touch about not my top story, but a story i will get— top story, but a story i will gei ee— top story, but a story i will get to before _ top story, but a story i will get to before the end of the wegnnne— get to before the end of the wegnnne-ic- get to before the end of the programme, is feral kids programme, which is feral kids eni— programme, which is feral kids and responsibility and whose responsibility is it? i and whose responsibility is it? i-iiiniw— and whose responsibility is it? i-firmly-squarelyl and whose responsibility is it? i firmly squarely the i blame firmly and squarely the neienic. — i blame firmly and squarely the parents- ene— i blame firmly and squarely the parents- enelnw— i blame firmly and squarely the parents. one my viewers parents. one of my viewers eiieeiw— parents. one of my viewers already sewe— parents. one of my viewers already says, don't you already says, why don't you binne— already says, why don't you blame successive governments for ieicing—ewi- blame successive governments for ieicing—ewi ee- forcing all the mothers out to weeke— forcing all the mothers out to work? instead— forcing all the mothers out to work? instead of— forcing all the mothers out to work? instead of allowing them to work? instead of allowing them ie ciew— work? instead of allowing them ie sew—nice- work? instead of allowing them to stay-raise their. to stay home and raise their cniieiene— to stay home and raise their children?-says- to stay home and raise their children?-says ,- to stay home and raise their children?-says , i- to stay home and raise their children? says , i can't children? she says, i can't neini— children? she says, i can't eeini ine— children? she says, i can't point the finger at parents when new— point the finger at parents when new newe— point the finger at parents when new newe ee— point the finger at parents when new newe ie ge— point the finger at parents when they have to go out to work. wen,— they have to go out to work. wen, i-we— they have to go out to work. wen, i-we gei— they have to go out to work. well, i've got to— they have to go out to work. well, i've got to say, i work iwii— well, i've got to say, i work iwii cine— well, i've got to say, i work full time and— well, i've got to say, i work full time and i— well, i've got to say, i work full time and i would still take ieceenciniiiw— full time and i would still take responsibility for— full time and i would still take responsibility for my child's ienewiewn — responsibility for my child's behaviour. it— responsibility for my child's behaviour. it doesn't matter if i behaviour. it doesn't matter if i ween-i— behaviour. it doesn't matter if i wasn't there— behaviour. it doesn't matter if i wasn't there all— behaviour. it doesn't matter if i wasn't there all day, every

day,— i wasn't there all day, every iew ine— i wasn't there all day, every new, ine beek— i wasn't there all day, every day, the book stop with me day, the book would stop with me as day, the book would stop with me eeineinen— day, the book would stop with me eeineinen nei— day, the book would stop with me as-mother. but i'm— day, the book would stop with me as mother. but i'm sure you as his mother. but i'm sure you wen-i— as his mother. but i'm sure you wen-i-ieii— as his mother. but i'm sure you wen-i-ieii ne- as his mother. but i'm sure you won't-tell me if- as his mother. but i'm sure you won't tell me if you won't be shy to tell me if you iieegee— won't be shy to tell me if you disagree. right— won't be shy to tell me if you disagree. right our top story, the disagree. right our top story, we nweee— disagree. right our top story, the nurses. have— disagree. right our top story, the nurses. have you seen the geinge— the nurses. have you seen the geinge-eew- the nurses. have you seen the geinge-iew ineiel the nurses. have you seen the goings day there ? goings on of the day there? iiennei— goings on of the day there? plannedllong_ goings on of the day there? planned long strike over the planned a long strike over the eenc— planned a long strike over the ienk neiieew— planned a long strike over the bank holiday weekend. long story enem— short, they've had that ieeiceiiw— short, they've had that basically cuts in half. has basically cuts in half. this has all basically cuts in half. this has eii gene— basically cuts in half. this has eii gene ee— basically cuts in half. this has all gone to the— basically cuts in half. this has all gone to the high courts and i all gone to the high courts and i newe— all gone to the high courts and i newe ee— all gone to the high courts and i newe ie eew— all gone to the high courts and i have to say, right . so i want i have to say, right. so i want to i have to say, right. so i want ie nece— i have to say, right. so i want ie neke inie— i have to say, right. so i want to make this point because i knew— to make this point because i knew i— to make this point because i knew i win— to make this point because i know i will get— to make this point because i know i will get in trouble from eeenie— know i will get in trouble from eeeeie ei— know i will get in trouble from eeeeie ei neme— know i will get in trouble from people at home and maybe on this gene— people at home and maybe on this eenei nei— people at home and maybe on this eenei iei ny— people at home and maybe on this panel for my views.— people at home and maybe on this panel for my views. but my mum eni— panel for my views. but my mum enci eieiei— panel for my views. but my mum enci eieiei ee— panel for my views. but my mum and sister are nurses. you all knew— and sister are nurses. you all knew ine— and sister are nurses. you all know this. and— and sister are nurses. you all know this. and for the record, i wenc— know this. and for the record, i want - professionals - know this. and for the record, i want professionals to be want medical professionals to be eeii— want medical professionals to be eeii weii. — want medical professionals to be eeii weii. i— want medical professionals to be paid well. i don't— want medical professionals to be paid well. i don't think we pay inen — paid well. i don't think we pay inen enewgn.— paid well. i don't think we pay them enough. i— paid well. i don't think we pay them enough. i would like to see inen— them enough. i would like to see inen eii— them enough. i would like to see them all, including— them enough. i would like to see them all, including my own ieniiw— them all, including my own ieniiw gei— them all, including my own family, get paid— them all, including my own family, get paid rises. but ince— family, get paid rises. but ineie ie— family, get paid rises. but ineie ie e— family, get paid rises. but there is a but— family, get paid rises. but there is a but i- family, get paid rises. but there is a but i do think the way— there is a but i do think the we inei— there is a but i do think the we we ine— there is a but i do think the way that the rcn are going about ininge— way that the rcn are going about ininge ie— way that the rcn are going about ininge ie wieng— way that the rcn are going about ininge ie wieng .— way that the rcn are going about things is wrong. i— way that the rcn are going about things is wrong . i see. pat things is wrong. i see. pat cwiien— things is wrong. i see. pat cullen kevin— things is wrong. i see. pat cullen kevin ,_ things is wrong. i see. pat cullen kevin , she's on the steps cullen kevin, she's on the steps of cullen kevin, she's on the steps ei ine— cullen kevin, she's on the steps ei ine cegne— cullen kevin, she's on the steps of the courts today. _ cullen kevin, she's on the steps of the courts today. she's eewing— of the courts today. she's eewing inie— of the courts today. she's saying this is— of the courts today. she's saying this is one of the ieikeei— saying this is one of the darkest days.— saying this is one of the darkest days. she's talking eiewi— darkest days. she's talking eiewi ine— darkest days. she's talking about the government bullying the about the government bullying ine nee— about the government bullying the heroes that— about the government bullying the heroes that we all went out enci— the heroes that we all went out ene cieeeei— the heroes that we all went out and clapped for. _ the heroes that we all went out and clapped for. and i just

inink— and clapped for. and i just think that's— and clapped for. and i just think that's divisive claptrap, eeiiw— think that's divisive claptrap, ieeiiw. i— think that's divisive claptrap, really. i think— think that's divisive claptrap, really. i think that if pat cwiien— really. i think that if pat cullen doesn't understand the mice— cullen doesn't understand the mice eni— cullen doesn't understand the mice enci ee— cullen doesn't understand the rules and as to— cullen doesn't understand the rules and as to what the strike eni— rules and as to what the strike enci ieiieie— rules and as to what the strike and ballots are,— rules and as to what the strike and ballots are, then perhaps ene— and ballots are, then perhaps she shouldn't— and ballots are, then perhaps she shouldn't be— and ballots are, then perhaps she shouldn't be leading that sne— she shouldn't be leading that union. she knew— she shouldn't be leading that union. she knew full well or she enewii— union. she knew full well or she enewii newe— union. she knew full well or she should have done— union. she knew full well or she should have done actually, should have done that. actually, you should have done that. actually, wen—ence- should have done that. actually, wen—eince inel you have six months since the eeini— you have six months since the eeinilieiiei— you have six months since the point-ballot to— you have six months since the point-ballot to do - you have six months since the point ballot to do your point of ballot to do your ewikee— point of ballot to do your strikes and— point of ballot to do your strikes and then, you can strikes and then, yes, you can ceniinwe— strikes and then, yes, you can continue striking,— strikes and then, yes, you can continue striking, but you have to continue striking, but you have ie-wew— continue striking, but you have to -your members. - to reballot your members. so i eciweiiw— to reballot your members. so i actually think— to reballot your members. so i actually think the— to reballot your members. so i actually think the fact that inie—ie- actually think the fact that- inie—ie-cewn this was allowed to go to court is this was allowed to go to court ie iwei— this was allowed to go to court ie iweileign— this was allowed to go to court is justlsign that— this was allowed to go to court is just sign that these is just a sign that these ewikee— is just a sign that these strikes are— is just a sign that these strikes are now getting weaponized_ strikes are now getting weaponized as a political ieeiieii.— weaponized as a political ieeiieii. i— weaponized as a political football. i don't want my ieniiw-e— football. i don't want my family's—andl football. i don't want my. family's—and the family's livelihoods and the livelihoods— family's livelihoods and the livelihoods of— family's livelihoods and the livelihoods of similar to be a eeiiiicei— livelihoods of similar to be a political football. i want this to political football. i want this ie ie— political football. i want this ie be e— political football. i want this ie be e geei— political football. i want this to be a good faith negotiation fien— to be a good faith negotiation iien eii— to be a good faith negotiation from all parties.— to be a good faith negotiation from all parties. what say you ? from all parties. what say you? i from all parties. what say you? i say— from all parties. what say you? i say in— from all parties. what say you? i say i'm surprised— from all parties. what say you? i say i'm surprised that- from all parties. what say you? i say i'm surprised that you're more worried about the rcn losing a legal case on a technicality than. no, no, they didn't technicality than. no, no, they iiin-i ieee— technicality than. no, no, they didn't lose it— technicality than. no, no, they didn't lose it on— technicality than. no, no, they didn't lose it on a— cit" in? eye s?" no, no, they didn't lose it on a technicality . inew— didn't lose it on a technicality . inew ieee— didn't lose it on a technicality . they lose it. _ didn't lose it on a technicality . they lose it. "i; . they lose it. they lost the pub, it was a technical motty that the strikes, the period, the period that the strikes could have gone for on would have come in a day before the current action was due to end.

yes, but right. ultimately i ewneeiniee— yes, but right. ultimately i sympathise with my sister, my eni— sympathise with my sister, my enci eii— sympathise with my sister, my mum and all of— sympathise with my sister, my mum and all of their colleagues. i mum and all of their colleagues. i wenc— mum and all of their colleagues. i weni wen.— mum and all of their colleagues. i want them.ineed_ mum and all of their colleagues. i want them. need repeat i want them. i need to repeat nweeii— i want them. i need to repeat myself because _ i want them. i need to repeat myself because-ll i want them. i need to repeat. myself because-i get myself because otherwise i get ienieeiei— myself because otherwise i get lambasted-being- myself because otherwise i get lambasted being an awful, lambasted for being an awful, ewiwi— lambasted for being an awful, ewiwi-ieing. - lambasted for being an awful, awful being. that's too awful human being. that's too nwcn.— awful human being. that's too nwcn.-weni— awful human being. that's too much. want necessary much. doesn't want necessary eii. — much. doesn't want necessary pic. i— much. doesn't want necessary pic. i ie— much. doesn't want necessary pic. i we igni— much. doesn't want necessary pic. i we ngni e— much. doesn't want necessary pit. i do right? right. but at ine— pit. i do right? right. but at we ee— pit. i do right? right. but at the same time,— pit. i do right? right. but at the same time, also want the same time, i also want eweenew— the same time, i also want eeorye eiee— the same time, i also want everyone else that pays taxes eni— everyone else that pays taxes enci eeeecie— everyone else that pays taxes ene exeecie e— everyone else that pays taxes and expects a certain level of eenice— and expects a certain level of eewice iien — and expects a certain level of service from the— and expects a certain level of service from the nhs to receive a service from the nhs to receive e ieceni— service from the nhs to receive a decent service.— service from the nhs to receive a decent service. agreed. if you gen-i— a decent service. agreed. if you don't-frameworks- a decent service. agreed. if you don't frameworks around a decent service. agreed. if you don't strikes,imeworks around a decent service. agreed. if you don't strikes, literally; around a decent service. agreed. if you don't strikes, literally anyone these strikes, literally anyone wiii— these strikes, literally anyone wiii ie— these strikes, literally anyone wiii ie eni— these strikes, literally anyone will be out all— these strikes, literally anyone will be out all the time. god knewe— will be out all the time. god knewe new— will be out all the time. god knows how long— will be out all the time. god knows how long on strike and men— knows how long on strike and inen ine— knows how long on strike and then the public— knows how long on strike and then the public will really ewiien — then the public will really ewiien se— then the public will really suffer. so i— then the public will really suffer. so i think that actually the framework— suffer. so i think that actually the framework strikes has to the framework of strikes has to be-,_ the framework of strikes has to ie-, eiieciei- the framework of strikes has to be-, affected and- the framework of strikes has to be , affected and it be respected, affected and it weeni— be respected, affected and it wasn't technicality wasn't a technicality arnie it was-framework- wasn't a technicality arnie it was framework had wasn't a technicality arnie it- was-framework-had been was the framework which had been set was the framework which had been eei in— was the framework which had been eei in niece— was the framework which had been set in place that— was the framework which had been set in place that everybody was eweieline — set in place that everybody was aware the fundamental aware of the fundamental ieeiiine. — aware of the fundamental deadline. hang- aware of the fundamental deadline. e�*ig iii" aware of the fundamental deadline. wsi�*ig g aware of the fundamental deadline. g gs /ii;s aware of the fundamental- deadline. hang on, guys. yes. if i haven't i haven't actually got in. i know. you've gone in. i know. sorry. you've gone again. again again again. you've gone again again until get me right. so until you get me so right. so the thing here is what most viewers listeners i reckon viewers and listeners i reckon will get really angry about is that in our country, over £8 billion is spent in a year by the nhs on agency nurses and

most viewers and listeners i reckon want like you that money to go into the pockets of amazing nurses like your family. so i reckon that most people as keir starmer said quite nicely earlier on this channel, are more bothered about why the government took so long to talk to nurses as and when they're going to resolve solve the dispute. and it was an interesting priority that they focussed this case instead of focussed on this case instead of more discussions to try and bnng more discussions to try and bring a new offer in that the members might support. but if they mean, i'm sorry, members might support. but if they-mean, i'm sorry, ii they don't, i mean, i'm sorry, i wenc— they don't, i mean, i'm sorry, i weni ie— they don't, i mean, i'm sorry, i weni ie wing— they don't, i mean, i'm sorry, i want to bring you— they don't, i mean, i'm sorry, i want to bring you in. venice want to bring you in. well, you knew— want to bring you in. well, you knew e— want to bring you in. well, you knew e ici— want to bring you in. well, you know a lot about he knows a lot about losing. knows loads about losing. he knows loads about losing. he knows loads about legal cases. ask about losing legal cases. ask him. an expert. she him. he's an expert. craig she is. well, she's getting right in incre— is. well, she's getting right in ineie. wen,— is. well, she's getting right in there. well, this— well, she's getting right in there. well, this boxing mark there. well, this is boxing mark sickn— there. well, this is boxing mark siewn eing. — there. well, this is boxing mark siewn eing. inn— there. well, this is boxing mark steyn ding. giii g there. well, this is boxing mark steyn ding. igiii g e steyn ding. i'm going to be like an unofficial girl tonight, steyn ding. i'm going to be like an unogoial girl tonight, steyn ding. i'm going to be like an unogo before girl tonight, steyn ding. i'm going to be like an unogo before itirl tonight, steyn ding. i'm going to be like an unogo before it gets night, steyn ding. i'm going to be like an unogo before it gets going. right? go before it gets going. i get in. yeah go i thought i'd get in. yeah go inei-e— i thought i'd get in. yeah go on. that's just— i thought i'd get in. yeah go on. that's just fires- i thought i'd get in. yeah go on. �*" i. i thought i'd get in. yeah go on. �*" ”kilt? e. e on. that's just fires me up. it doesn't stop me. that actually just, you know, i know i'm waiting, but think pat cullen waiting, but i think pat cullen has this with great has handled this with great ineptitude the entire strike.

she started off with an outrageous claim of 19. and i looked askance at that. when, you know, when they put out a 19% figure, inflation had been 10. yes. they've been underpaid for many years. yes, they deserve a significant rise. and i'm completely with you. and at the these strikes, my the outset of these strikes, my sympathy entirely with the sympathy was entirely with the pubuc sympathy was entirely with the public workers who had public sector workers who had been including the been underpaid, including the royal college of nurses, particularly royal college particularly the royal college of nurses, who haven't ever striked before. to out striked before. but to go out of the on a 19% demand was the stalls on a 19% demand was bound to put the government into the a box. they were not going to come out, engage with a ridiculous figure like that. so that was her opening stall and she got that completely wrong. then she got it completely wrong on other of the extreme on the other end of the extreme when she accepted a 5% wage increase and £1,700 bonus, which was deemed minimus by comparison to what she should have stood for and even smaller by comparison to her initial figure. and then to go out on a two day strike. and you're quite right, michelle, it's not a

technicality . it's a fundamental technicality. it's a fundamental aspect of their right to strike. it ends after six months and to go out on a two day strike with one of those days falling on the other side of the deadline is inept. other side of the deadline is inept . and what she's done, she inept. and what she's done, she might think she's got the media on her side because she's on the steps of the court, accuse this rapacious government of having another one over these hardworking nurses . but hardworking nurses. but actually, what she's done is given the government an upper hand because they've her hand because they've taken her to court and they've won and thatis to court and they've won and that is not a good look. this lady probably needs to be sacked. the only thing i can say in her defence is, is that the royal college of nurses has never strike, never been on strike before. she hasn't. they have, but they've never- e they have, but they've never had a big— have, but they've never had a big neiienei— have, but they've never had a big national strike like this. so big national strike like this. se inew— big national strike like this. se inew iii— big national strike like this. so they did strike, i think it in— so they did strike, i think it was in northern— so they did strike, i think it was in northern ireland. i think so they did strike, i think it wewas northern ireland. i think so they did strike, i think it wewas aboutern ireland. i think so they did strike, i think it wewas about 2019 eland. i think so they did strike, i think it wewas about 2019 there i think so they did strike, i think it wewas about 2019 there orthink it was about 2019 there or thereabouts. _ it was about 2019 there or thereabouts. i'm going off my nenew— thereabouts. i'm going off my nenew-wnicn- thereabouts. i'm going off my memory-which is- thereabouts. i'm going off my memory which is a bit memory here, which is a bit ekeicnw— memory here, which is a bit ekeicnw-iewe.- memory here, which is a bit sketchy days. they've sketchy these days. they've newie-e nig- sketchy these days. they've never a big national never had like a big national ewike— never had like a big national strike - extent - never had like a big national strike extent anyway. strike to this extent anyway. inen —eii then clearly not capable of neneging— then clearly not capable of managing strike. 'i:

then clearly not capable of managing strike. i: managing this strike. and she needs— managing this strike. and she needs ie— managing this strike. and she needs in ge. — managing this strike. and she needs in ge. i— managing this strike. and she needs to go. i think she needs to go as head of head of the union. she needs to stay in post eni— union. she needs to stay in post enci keep— union. she needs to stay in post and keep telling— e. " iii" she needs to stay in post and keep telling everybody in inie—iieienl this country that will listen inei— this country that will listen wee-eee— this country that will listen that are spending over £8 that we are spending over £8 iiiiien— that we are spending over £8 iiiiien e— that we are spending over £8 billion a year— that we are spending over £8 billion a year on— that we are spending over £8 billion a year on agency nurses, wnicn—iikeel billion a year on agency nurses, which—likes of| which should go to the likes of ieiee— which should go to the likes of jobs,-members. - which should go to the likes of jobs, members. “is jobs, family members. yes, but i wenc— jobs, family members. yes, but i went ee— jobs, family members. yes, but i went so inci— jobs, family members. yes, but i went so we ie— jobs, family members. yes, but i want so just to be clear, because i am lost. she's lost. she's because i am lost. she's lost. sne-e ieei— because i am lost. she's lost. she's lost the— because i am lost. she's lost. she's lost the fight,- f she's lost. she's lost the fight, hasn't enee— she's lost the fight, hasn't enee wen,— she's lost the fight, hasn't she? well, hang on. she's lost nei— she? well, hang on. she's lost her members. _ she? well, hang on. she's lost her members. she— she? well, hang on. she's lost her members. she got off. she ieiiei— her members. she got off. she ieiiei ie— her members. she got off. she ieiiei ie-e— her members. she got off. she failed to-a good- her members. she got off. she failed to a good settlement. failed to get a good settlement. sne— failed to get a good settlement. sne-inen— failed to get a good settlement. she then overturned her she was then overturned by her members-she's- she was then overturned by her members. she's lost in members. and now she's lost in cegn— members. and now she's lost in cewn ince— members. and now she's lost in court three failures. _ court three failures. and she neen-i— court three failures. and she neen-i-e-ieii hasn't delivered a result for for-nurses. she. hasn't delivered a result for for-nurses. she iti hasn't delivered a result for. for-nurses. she it was for the the nurses. she it was keen— for the the nurses. she it was ieek. ice— for the the nurses. she it was look, it's unfortunate for her that there was this technical , that there was this technical, legal ruling and it was very difficult. why do you keep calling it a technical legal most people down the pub will go anyway. never mind anyway. what about never mind the about that technical the details about that technical ruling. the nurses on ruling. are the nurses back on strike? back in strike? when are they back in work? you know what i would say to work? you know what i would say ie ny— work? you know what i would say ie nw neee— work? you know what i would say ie my neie iewn— 7 you know what i would say to my mate down boozer if my to my mate down the boozer if my neee— to my mate down the boozer if my ece-ne— to my mate down the boozer if my eei-ne on— to my mate down the boozer if my mate me, oh, michelle, mate said to me, oh, michelle, ienging— mate said to me, oh, michelle, iengingleiewi— mate said to me, oh, michelle, banging about technicalities. banging on about technicalities. 8 banging on about technicalities. e eiiiien— banging on about technicalities. e eiiiien ee— banging on about technicalities. 8 billion, £8 billion— banging on about technicalities. 8 billion, £8 billion around- banging on about technicalities. 8 billion, £8 billion around it, i'd to my mate, listen, i'd say to my mate, listen, right, you don't get right, you don't you don't get what about because

what you're on about because it's technicality. it a it's not a technicality. it is a fundamental principle- i iii" it eye it is a fundamental principle of the ewike— fundamental principle of the strike framework. and if you iwei— strike framework. and if you we kee— strike framework. and if you we iei inei— strike framework. and if you just let that fundamental enncieie— just let that fundamental enncieie — just let that fundamental princiare you— just let that fundamental princiare you going to do? you're what are you going to do? you're iwei— what are you going to do? you're iwei geing— what are you going to do? you're iwei geing ie— what are you going to do? you're iwei geing ie newe— what are you going to do? you're just going to have everyone ewiking— just going to have everyone ewiking eii— just going to have everyone striking all-the- just going to have everyone. striking all-the-for striking all over the place for as striking all over the place for ee-ee— striking all over the place for ee-ee inew— striking all over the place for as-as they want.- striking all over the place for as as they want. and as long as they want. and neee— as long as they want. and however-they- as long as they want. and however they want. however format they want. and inen— however format they want. and inenlwiii— however format they want. and then will absolute then it will be absolute ceneeg ee— then it will be absolute carnage. so i- then it will be absolute carnage. so i support people's ngnie— carnage. so i support people's ngnie-eiieii- rights to strike, albeit eciweiiw— rights to strike, albeit actually make rights to strike, albeit. actually - make a rights to strike, albeit- actually-make a better actually i would make a better eiewieien— actually i would make a better provision emergency services provision for emergency services .—eweeen- provision for emergency services .—eweeen ine- . but anyway, i support the igni— . but anyway, i support the ngni ie— . but anyway, i support the right to strike.— . but anyway, i support the right to strike. but i also eweeen— right to strike. but i also eweeen ine— right to strike. but i also support the right of the iekeeweie— support the right of the taxpayers to _ support the right of the taxpayers to receive the care inei— taxpayers to receive the care we we— taxpayers to receive the care we we ee— taxpayers to receive the care that we are paying for. and if nei— that we are paying for. and if iei cwiien— that we are paying for. and if pat cullen is— that we are paying for. and if pat cullen is so— that we are paying for. and if pat cullen is so passionate eeene— pat cullen is so passionate eiewi nei— pat cullen is so passionate about her mandate , her remit and about her mandate, her remit and all about her mandate, her remit and eii ine— about her mandate, her remit and eii ine eee— about her mandate, her remit and eii ine ieei ei— about her mandate, her remit and all the rest of it,— about her mandate, her remit and all the rest of it, rip your eeie— all the rest of it, rip your members and— all the rest of it, rip your members and actually , you know, members and actually, you know, wnei-e— members and actually, you know, we yew— members and actually, you know, what's your problem? because wen-ii— what's your problem? because wen-ii gei— what's your problem? because wen-ii gei eii— what's your problem? because you'll get all of— what's your problem? because you'll get all of your buy in all you'll get all of your buy in eii ei— you'll get all of your buy in eii ei yew— you'll get all of your buy in all of your turnout and on you 90- — all of your turnout and on you ge. wen.— all of your turnout and on you ge. weii. ene-e— all of your turnout and on you go. well, she's she's- all of your turnout and on you go. well, she's she's obviously in leadership are to in the leadership are going to try and get to a place where the members will vote through what the want them the leadership want them to accept. the is the accept. but the fact is the government is so mishandled this that members have just that the members have they just had and they had enough. you know, and they they if you put. come on. no, they do if you put. come on. no, no, no. hang on. me finish. no, no. hang on. let me finish. i interrupted i haven't interrupted you tonight. the billions ,

tonight. ben the billions, billions pounds are being billions of pounds are being paid to agencies sort it out, government. yeah, but it's not a binary choice between preying agency workers and settling the strike action with a fair pay settlement. what strike action with a fair pay settlement . what we've got here, settlement. what we've got here, and settlement. what we've got here, end i— settlement. what we've got here, end i inink— settlement. what we've got here, and i think the _ what we've got here, and i think the argument that iiicneiie.— and i think the argument that michelle. sorry,— and i think the argument that michelle. sorry, i'm sort of jumping— michelle. sorry, i'm sort of jumping ie— michelle. sorry, i'm sort of jumping ie yew— michelle. sorry, i'm sort of jumping to your defence, the eigwneni. — jumping to your defence, the argument. michelle is making is wen-we— argument. michelle is making is wen-we gei— argument. michelle is making is wen-we gei-gei— argument. michelle is making is you've got got you've got you've got you've got you've got eneei— you've got you've got you've got neee-wnicn— you've got you've got you've got ahead-union. who's- ahead of the union. who's geiiing— ahead of the union. who's geiiing ii— ahead of the union. who's getting it wrong, breaking getting it wrong, who's breaking the getting it wrong, who's breaking ene—eiicking- getting it wrong, who's breaking ene—eiicking iwl the law, who's not sticking by nei— the law, who's not sticking by nee-wne-e— the law, who's not sticking by her-who's failed- her remit, who's failed to gene— her remit, who's failed to deliverldeal._ her remit, who's failed to deliverldeal.-i- her remit, who's failed to- deliverldeal.-i actually deliver a deal. well, i actually inink— deliver a deal. well, i actually inink ene-e— deliver a deal. well, i actually think she's failing those nurses inei— think she's failing those nurses inei ene-e— think she's failing those nurses that she's supposed to be. keeeiweeiw. — that she's supposed to be. absolutely. because- that she's supposed to be. absolutely. because she's got a cost settlement against cost settlement awarded against her grand the subs her of about 55 grand the subs to get into this union are about £16 there or thereabouts, 16 for 1650 a month. so she's now taken the subs of 2000 odd nurses and gone into fighting these legal costs. and she didn't lawyer costs. and she didn't a lawyer didn't even attend on behalf of the rcn because they knew they were to. well, listen, the were going to. well, listen, the gieei— were going to. well, listen, the gieei ining— were going to. well, listen, the gieei ening ie— were going to. well, listen, the great thing is, right— were going to. well, listen, the great thing is, right in- iiiiii igiii g well, listen, the great thing is, right in the neee— great thing is, right in the trade union— great thing is, right in the trade union movement, you can eeck— trade union movement, you can eeck yew— trade union movement, you can sack your leaders.— trade union movement, you can sack your leaders. have to sack your leaders. they have to be sack your leaders. they have to ie eieciei— sack your leaders. they have to ie eieciei .— sack your leaders. they have to be elected . so— sack your leaders. they have to be elected . so the— sack your leaders. they have to be elected . so the great thing be elected. so the great thing is be elected. so the great thing ie ii-e— be elected. so the great thing ie we nei— be elected. so the great thing is it's not like— be elected. so the great thing is it's not like a— be elected. so the great thing

is it's not like a big property ceneenw— is it's not like a big property company that's— is it's not like a big property company that's value halves in five— company that's value halves in five wee— company that's value halves in ice wee fei— company that's value halves in five years, for example, where, wen— five years, for example, where, wen knew, — five years, for example, where, you knew. wen— five years, for example, where, you know, you can't immediately eeck— you know, you can't immediately eeck ine— you know, you can't immediately sack the chief— you know, you can't immediately sack the chief executive or the cneiinen— sack the chief executive or the cneiinen .— sack the chief executive or the chairman , but— sack the chief executive or the chairman , but that you can sack chairman, but that you can sack neee— chairman, but that you can sack neee nien— chairman, but that you can sack trade union leaders . �*fii�*iii trade union leaders. well, look, i trade union leaders. well, look, i ince— trade union leaders. well, look, i just want my sack , the chief i just want my sack, the chief executive of a property company as well, kevin nice. that's two ewncnee— as well, kevin nice. that's two ewncnee in— as well, kevin nice. that's two ewncnee in in— as well, kevin nice. that's two punches in i'm story.- as well, kevin nice. that's two punches in i'm story. i'm- i \i iiii that's two punches in i'm story. i'm making a punches in i'm story. i'm making e in— punches in i'm story. i'm making e in neking— punches in i'm story. i'm making e in neking e— punches in i'm story. i'm making a i'm making a note of the of ine— a i'm making a note of the of we — a i'm making a note of the of the score. so— a i'm making a note of the of the score. so who- a i'm making a note of the of the score. f the score. so who reckons i'm going to have to get my boxing gloves out by the end of this show. i think it's about 5050 at the moment. look, i just want the moment. look, i just want the future of my mum, my sister and everyone else to be treated with but not to be with respect, but not to be turned into some stupid point scoring either side. scoring exercise by either side. i'm really frustrated about it, as you can probably tell david says, i was a nurse for 40 years and i think it's a disgrace that nurses are striking, he says. pat cullen as politics sized the strike action and this is the point i just feel like at the futures of my family and everyone, all of their colleagues is being weaponized and i don't like it. lynn says.

i'm against nurses striking and the doctors, they've lost the sympathy for my cause. i believe there should be a no strike clause in their contract, ian says doctors, nurses deserve a pay rise and more importantly, better working conditions. no one would disagree with you. i don't think there. ian i guess it's how, how how do we get to that point? that is what i'm trying to get to tonight. richard says everyone that works hard deserves a pay rise and not just these heroes. as norman says, ever since its creation, the tories have wanted to destroy the nhs and this court ruling now means that that nurses are no more than slaves, he says. i wonder who on earth is next to be pulled into that category. bit dramatic there, norman, but everyone's entitled to their own view. what time is it? very quickly before i go to a break, quickly, teachers, your thoughts. you support thoughts. do you support those guys on their strikes? yes. do you do you support teachers? i think everyone now needs to see strikes. they think everyone now needs to see strikes . they need to settle

strikes. they need to settle ineii— strikes. they need to settle their disputes— strikes. they need to settle their disputes .— they need to settle their disputes . the country, the their disputes. the country, the cewniw-e— their disputes. the country, the country's economy _ their disputes. the country, the country's economy is suffering. ieeeie— country's economy is suffering. ieeeie ee— country's economy is suffering. people are suffering . we need to people are suffering. we need to inew— people are suffering. we need to move on. they can— people are suffering. we need to move on. they can come back to ine— move on. they can come back to we ieiie— move on. they can come back to we ieiie egein— move on. they can come back to the table again next— move on. they can come back to the table again next year. but eeiiie— the table again next year. but eeiiielnew.— the table again next year. but settle . now. get _ the table again next year. but settle now. get the economy settle it now. get the economy neking— settle it now. get the economy newing .— settle it now. get the economy newing . gei— settle it now. get the economy newing . gei we— settle it now. get the economy moving , get us-on- settle it now. get the economy moving , get us on our feet, moving, get us back on our feet, enci— moving, get us back on our feet, ene-wen— moving, get us back on our feet, ene-wew-iewiew- moving, get us back on our feet, and -you - review the i and then, you know, review the eiiweiien— and then, you know, review the eiiweiien-in— and then, you know, review the situation-in12_ and then, you know, review the situation in 12 months. situation again in 12 months. weii— situation again in 12 months. well-vou— situation again in 12 months. weii-wew ieie- situation again in 12 months. well you lots and lots well lots of you lots and lots of well lots of you lots and lots ef-geiiing— well lots of you lots and lots ei-geiiing in— well lots of you lots and lots of getting in touch with of you getting in touch with inie. — of you getting in touch with inie. ite— of you getting in touch with this. it's certainly- of you getting in touch with this. f i: . i: g this. it's certainly dividing your opinions . please keep your your opinions. please keep your thoughts in and when i thoughts coming in and when i come back i'll have some come back into i'll have some of them that topic. i also them on that topic. but i also want ask you as well, where want to ask you as well, where do stand on the whole kind do you stand on the whole kind of for and gas? do of drilling for oil and gas? do you think we should do any of it? think we should do it? do you think we should do more of it? your thoughts? because will more of it? your thoughts? becaa;e will more of it? your thoughts? becaa legal will more of it? your thoughts? becaa legal challenge, will face a legal challenge, basically when it comes to how much more drilling we can do. your

across the uk. " across the uk. this is. just below acceptance. hi there, i'm iiicneiie— below acceptance. hi there, i'm michelle dewberry. _ below acceptance. hi there, i'm michelle dewberry. i'm- ”f hi there, i'm michelle dewberry. i'm keeping you ceneenw— michelle dewberry. i'm keeping you company until 7:00. that was cewgni— you company until 7:00. that was cewgni en— you company until 7:00. that was cewgne eii gweni— you company until 7:00. that was caught off guard and i was just eiewi— caught off guard and i was just eiewi ie— caught off guard and i was just eiewi ie wee— caught off guard and i was just about to was having a nice iiiiie— about to was having a nice iiiiie cnei— about to was having a nice

little chat about the price of new— little chat about the price of rcn membership. i was just ieeking— rcn membership. i was just looking £16.40— rcn membership. i was just looking £16.40 a month or discounted— looking £16.40 a month or discounted to— looking £16.40 a month or discounted to £8.20 a month for the discounted to £8.20 a month for we iiiei— discounted to £8.20 a month for we iiiei year— discounted to £8.20 a month for the first year for— discounted to £8.20 a month for the first year for newly gweiiiiei— the first year for newly qualified nurses. i think that's gwiie— qualified nurses. i think that's gwiie e— qualified nurses. i think that's gwiie e ici— qualified nurses. i think that's gwiie e iei ei— qualified nurses. i think that's quite a lot of money. £18.40 a menin— quite a lot of money. £18.40 a nenin anyway— quite a lot of money. £18.40 a nenin anyway .— quite a lot of money. £18.40 a month anyway . what do you guys month anyway. what do you guys inink— month anyway. what do you guys inink ie— month anyway. what do you guys inink ie inei— month anyway. what do you guys think to that whole— month anyway. what do you guys think to that whole striking nurses situation when it comes to nurses situation when it comes ie we— nurses situation when it comes ie we cegn— nurses situation when it comes to that court case?— nurses situation when it comes to that court case? today? i was eeking— to that court case? today? i was eeking wen— to that court case? today? i was eeking you egein— to that court case? today? i was asking you again, you're very, very— asking you again, you're very, very eiwiiei. — asking you again, you're very, very divided. doreen says if the nurses strike— very divided. doreen says if the nurses strike wasn't conducted iegeiiw— nurses strike wasn't conducted iegeiiw .— nurses strike wasn't conducted legally , i— nurses strike wasn't conducted iegeiiw. i ien-i— nurses strike wasn't conducted legally , i don't blame the legally, i don't blame the government.— legally, i don't blame the government. the nurses strike ieeen-i— government. the nurses strike ieeen-i newe— government. the nurses strike doesn't have my— government. the nurses strike doesn't have my support . but she doesn't have my support. but she eewe— doesn't have my support. but she eewe new— doesn't have my support. but she eewe ii— doesn't have my support. but she says now it feels— doesn't have my support. but she says now it feels like these ewikee— says now it feels like these enikee ee— says now it feels like these strikes are a— says now it feels like these strikes are a cynical tool to wnenniiie— strikes are a cynical tool to undermine the— strikes are a cynical tool to undermine the government's . lots undermine the government's. lots of undermine the government's. lots ei wen— undermine the government's. lots ei wen ee— undermine the government's. lots of you are sharing— undermine the government's. lots of you are sharing that view, eciweiiw— of you are sharing that view, actually, that— of you are sharing that view, actually, that this does feel all actually, that this does feel eii iike — actually, that this does feel eii iike ii— actually, that this does feel all like it is— actually, that this does feel all like it is political all and inei-e— all like it is political all and were wen— all like it is political all and that's you see,— all like it is political all and that's you see, you know my inewgnie— that's you see, you know my thoughts because i've told you inen — thoughts because i've told you inen ei— thoughts because i've told you inen ei ine— thoughts because i've told you them at the start— thoughts because i've told you them at the start of the program-— them at the start of the eiegien. i— them at the start of the program. i feel like these eeeeie— program. i feel like these eeeeie. ine— program. i feel like these people, the nurses are the ones we— people, the nurses are the ones we inew-ie— people, the nurses are the ones that they're going _ people, the nurses are the ones that they're going to suffer. t hey— that they're going to suffer. inew ee— that they're going to suffer. they are .ones - that they're going to suffer. they are ones that are being they are the ones that are being weenenizei— they are the ones that are being weeeenizei in— they are the ones that are being weaponized in this— they are the ones that are being weaponized in this way. will eewe— weaponized in this way. will eewe egenie— weaponized in this way. will eewe egenie in— weaponized in this way. will says agents in nursing be says agents in nursing should be neiieneiieeci— says agents in nursing should be neikineeeii.— says agents in nursing should be nati(these companies are able to

that these companies are able to niece— that these companies are able to iieei ine— that these companies are able to iieei ine wne— that these companies are able to bleed the nhs of— that these companies are able to bleed the nhs of money. kevin ii— bleed the nhs of money. kevin ii wee— bleed the nhs of money. kevin ii e— bleed the nhs of money. kevin was. it was a half— bleed the nhs of money. kevin was. it was a half clap. it was a one, a one slap— was. it was a half clap. it was a one, a one slap to the knee ciee. — a one, a one slap to the knee ciee. ineie— a one, a one slap to the knee clap. there well,— a one, a one slap to the knee clap. there well, i- a one, a one slap to the knee clap. there well, i think that he clap. there well, i think that ne geee— clap. there well, i think that he agrees with— clap. there well, i think that he agrees with you and says as a few new— he agrees with you and says as a nurse for many years, i think my ceiieegwee— nurse for many years, i think my colleagues should— nurse for many years, i think my colleagues should get back to ineii— colleagues should get back to their patients— colleagues should get back to their patients who, after all, ine — their patients who, after all, are the most— their patients who, after all, are the most important people in the are the most important people in we neeeiiei. — are the most important people in the hospital. we— are the most important people in the hospital. we should never ieigei— the hospital. we should never feigei inei— the hospital. we should never feigei me i— the hospital. we should never forget that i had— the hospital. we should never forget that i had an ex newnieni— forget that i had an ex boyfriend was a very wealthy ee— boyfriend was a very wealthy i>e wen— boyfriend was a very wealthy man. do you know how he made his nenewe— man. do you know how he made his money? recruitment— man. do you know how he made his money? recruitment agencies on ininge— money? recruitment agencies on ininge iike— money? recruitment agencies on things like nurses— money? recruitment agencies on things like nurses and i could gei— things like nurses and i could gei nw— things like nurses and i could never get my head around . why never get my head around. why ien-i— never get my head around. why ien-i e— never get my head around. why isn't a government— never get my head around. why isn't a government pushing these egenciee— isn't a government pushing these egenciee eni— isn't a government pushing these agencies and going, you know wig,— agencies and going, you know what, venee— agencies and going, you know what, you're not— agencies and going, you know what, you're not going to have yew— what, you're not going to have yew nign— what, you're not going to have your high levels— what, you're not going to have your high levels of commission. ken— your high levels of commission. ken-newe— your high levels of commission. ken-newe, i— your high levels of commission. you-have, i don't- your high levels of commission. you have, i don't know, 5% you can have, i don't know, 5% or you can have, i don't know, 5% cc wneiewen— you can have, i don't know, 5% or whatever. and _ you can have, i don't know, 5% or whatever. and if— you can have, i don't know, 5% or whatever. and if you don't wenc— or whatever. and if you don't weni ine— or whatever. and if you don't want the business, jog on. we'll get want the business, jog on. we'll gee—inei- want the business, jog on. we'll gee—inei cewiil get other agencies that could never—around. . never get my head around. why inew—neniei- never get my head around. why they—harder on- never get my head around. why they—harder on thei they didn't push harder on the negeiieiiene— they didn't push harder on the negotiations-you- they didn't push harder on the negotiations. you know what, negotiations. do you know what, iiicneie — negotiations. do you know what, iiicneie vee— negotiations. do you know what, michel? you should— negotiations. do you know what, michel? /iii. : michel? you should watch the labour manifesto you labour manifesto because you might there. oh , might find that in there. oh, little. you're going to legislate against free market economies, is that. no, no, no. we're going make sure economies, is that. no, no, no. we're going-make sure the. we're going to make sure the eieie— we're going to make sure the eece-eni— we're going to make sure the state put unnecessary state doesn't put unnecessary nenew— state doesn't put unnecessary nenew ince— state doesn't put unnecessary money into private pockets when

it money into private pockets when ii-iei— money into private pockets when ii-iei ine— money into private pockets when ii-iei ine geei- money into private pockets when it-for the good of- money into private pockets when it for the good of the it could go for the good of the neiien. — it could go for the good of the neiien. wnei— it could go for the good of the nation. what does— it could go for the good of the nation. what does mean? nation. what does that mean? inew-ie— nation. what does that mean?| inew-ie—ieiew they're going to trust a labour geweinneni— they're going to trust a labour government money government to spend money wieeiwe — government to spend money wisely? _we'lll government to spend money. wisely? _we'll see wisely? absolutely. we'll see how that goes. well, we won't nwee— how that goes. well, we won't nwee-yew— how that goes. well, we won't trust-your share- how that goes. well, we won'ti trust-your share price trust you when your share price is trust you when your share price ie ei— trust you when your share price ie ei ice-ze— trust you when your share price is at £0.25 from _ trust you when your share price is at £0.25 from £0.68 ben oh weii— is at £0.25 from £0.68 ben oh wet, nice— is at £0.25 from £0.68 ben oh well, nice one. _ is at £0.25 from £0.68 ben oh well, nice one. ding- is at £0.25 from £0.68 ben oh well, nice one. “a g i: g is at £0.25 from £0.68 ben oh well, nice one. a g i: g ”iiiiii: well, nice one. ding ding round. just saying, you know, property while we're on that property has been of been through three years of abuse by government policy locking us down, working from home and now inflation rampant interest rates up property's beenin interest rates up property's been in the eye of the storm and of course, that's going to have an effect on our share price as it has done on the entire sector. you need to do a ceneieieen— sector. you need to do a comparison with- f you need to do a comparison with other property cnnniee — comparison with other property companies. well,— comparison with other property companies. well, but it's interesting. _ companies. well, but it's interesting. i— companies. well, but it's interesting. i find it really inieieeiing— interesting. i find it really interesting that kevin's to eieeeiei— interesting that kevin's to eieeeiee twee— interesting that kevin's to prepared just go straight on to the prepared just go straight on to inc-eeen— prepared just go straight on to the-stuff next- prepared just go straight on to the stuff next time the personal stuff next time i'm on the personal stuff next time i'm en-wew— the personal stuff next time i'm en-wew kewin— the personal stuff next time i'm en-wew kewin i— the personal stuff next time i'm on you, kevin, i will make on with you, kevin, i will make ewe-gei— on with you, kevin, i will make ewe-gei ee— on with you, kevin, i will make sure got some. what's sure i've got some. no, what's eeieenei— sure i've got some. no, what's personal about— sure i've got some. no, what's personal about share price personal about the share price of personal about the share price ei-iweineeee— personal about the share price of-business? _ personal about the share price of-business? if- personal about the share price of business? �*7 ”iii: of your business? if you're if you— of your business? if you're if you any you attacked without any provoking do trust the provoking, do you trust the labour government to money labour government to spend money wisely? i was merely saying, wisely? and i was merely saying, i'll take that question from somebody whose property company value hasn't halved in the last

five years. well, what's personal about that? and you're a listed company, it's all out there. wouldn't take that there. you wouldn't take that gweeiien— there. you wouldn't take that gweeiien-enw— there. you wouldn't take that question-any-of- question from any ceo of a need— question from any ceo of a iieiee eieeenw— question from any ceo of a listed property company at the cnecneni— listed property company at the moment because— listed property company at the moment because they've all ewiieiei— moment because they've all. ewiieiei—wew. suffered over money with you. were— suffered over money with you. were neking— suffered over money with you. we're havinglchat.- suffered over money with you. �*fii�*ii ”iii: g its�*isi well, the we're having a chat. well, the last time labour— we're having a chat. well, the last time labour was- we're having a chat. well, the last time labour was in- �*fii�*ii ”iii: g its�*isi well, the last time labour was in office, iei-e— last time labour was in office, iei-e-ieik— last time labour was in office, let's-talk about- last time labour was in office, let's talk about the let's just talk about the ewiieci— let's just talk about the subject-hand. - let's just talk about the subject-hand. time subject in hand. the last time ieiew— subject in hand. the last time ieieew wee— subject in hand. the last time labour was in— subject in hand. the last time labour was in office, the ninieiei— labour was in office, the minister-the- labour was in office, the minister the way left minister on the way out left a nece— minister on the way out left a neie in— minister on the way out left a neie in ine— minister on the way out left a note in the treasury saying, sowi— note in the treasury saying, senw ine— note in the treasury saying, sorry, the money's you know, sorry, the money's all you know, the sorry, the money's all you know, ene-inn— sorry, the money's all you know, the-that note.- sorry, the money's all you know, the-that note. no,- the context of that note. no, i ien-i— the context of that note. no, i ien-i knew— the context of that note. no, i don't know the _ the context of that note. no, i don't know the context. that was it we— don't know the context. that was it e— don't know the context. that was it e inke— don't know the context. that was it was a joke. it's a tradition done by governments of all political persuasions. it was a really bad joke. wouldn't have really bad joke. i wouldn't have written you are written it myself. you are right. iagree written it myself. you are right. i agree with you. you knew— right. i agree with you. you knew-eekei- right. i agree with you. you know-asked you- right. i agree with you. you. know-asked you guys? know what i asked you guys? whee— know what i asked you guys? we de— know what i asked you guys? we in wee— know what i asked you guys? what do you think— know what i asked you guys? what do you think the- know what i asked you guys? what do you think the likelihood of boxing gloves with of me needing boxing gloves with these two are? by the end of the show, at 50% before show, i put it at 50% before the break. i put it about 85 now. so packit break. i put it about 85 now. so pack it in, you two. no, it's nothing. let's move on. i've ieni. — nothing. let's move on. i've ieni. nee— nothing. let's move on. i've band. he's achieved loads in his life. there's personal life. there's nothing personal as have. so you're as you both have. so you're piers. as you both have. so you're iieie. neck— as you both have. so you're piers. pack it— as you both have. so you're piers. pack it in.— as you both have. so you're piers. pack it in. let's- so you're piers. pack it in. let's move en-ieik— piers. pack it in. let's move en-ieik eii— piers. pack it in. let's move on.-talk oil and- piers. pack it in. let's move on. talk oil and gas, on. let's talk oil and gas, eneii— on. let's talk oil and gas, eneii wee— on. let's talk oil and gas, shall we?-do- on. let's talk oil and gas,- shall we?-do-think when shall we? what do you think when it shall we? what do you think when

ii-ie— shall we? what do you think when ii-ie necking— shall we? what do you think when it to fracking drilling in it comes to fracking drilling in inie—eni- it comes to fracking drilling in inie—eni geeel this country for oil and gas? ine— this country for oil and gas? the government— this country for oil and gas? the government is facing a legal cneiienge.— the government is facing a legal challenge. basically to try and eiee— challenge. basically to try and eiee enw— challenge. basically to try and eiee enw-eii— challenge. basically to try and stop any-oil and- challenge. basically to try and stop any oil and gas stop any further oil and gas iniiing— stop any further oil and gas drilling-this— stop any further oil and gas drilling this country. drilling in this country. it comes greenpeace. they're comes from greenpeace. they're ieeiceiiw— basically saying the emissions geneieiei— basically saying the emissions generated-this- basically saying the emissions generated this kind of generated by all this kind of eiiiiienei— generated by all this kind of additional would additional drilling would wieieie— additional drilling wouldl violate—zero violate our legal net zero cenniiiee. — violate our legal net zero committee. what, say you, committee. it's what, say you, nen— committee. it's what, say you, nen- — committee. it's what, say you, nen- -i- committee. it's what, say you, nen- -i neenl committee. it's what, say you,l ben- _i mean, they committee. it's what, say you,- ben- _i mean, they do ben habib? well, i mean, they do violate potentially our net zero commitments as evidenced by this high court being prepared to allow the matter to go to a judicial review. you know, this new drilling , these new drilling new drilling, these new drilling licences. i think it's a licences. but i think it's a terrible step that the countries taken committing itself, binding itself into a commitment for net zero by 2050 in this manner. and you might recall, this was a parting shot by theresa may just before she left office, after she knew she was leaving office , she put it into onto the uk statute books. it's that law that's being used by these people to launch a judicial review , and they're doing it at review, and they're doing it at a time when, as we all know, we've got a cost of living crisis, fuel costs causing a

large part of it, gas being at the heart of it, and us having an abundance of gas in the north sea and indeed under our feet on our land. and they're throwing that away . they're throwing that that away. they're throwing that away in the pursuit of a political goal, which hasn't actually been convincing in the case, has not been scientifically , convincingly scientifically, convincingly made that that is going to deliver the result that they want. and i think it's daft as brushes that we've committed the country to this net zero, you know, by 2050, no matter what the cost . and the cost, by the the cost. and the cost, by the way, is going to be vast. it is. and i don't way, is going to be vast. it is. and i don't think— way, is going to be vast. it is. and i don't think anyone- and i don't think anyone really nee— and i don't think anyone really nee inki— and i don't think anyone really nee iwii eigni— and i don't think anyone really has full sight of— and i don't think anyone really has full sight of what those ceeie— has full sight of what those costs are going— has full sight of what those costs are going to be. not just neneiecw— costs are going to be. not just neneiew. kw— costs are going to be. not just neneiew. iw ine— costs are going to be. not just monetary, by the way, but cnengee— monetary, by the way, but cnengee ie— monetary, by the way, but changes to your lifestyle changes to your your lifestyle as changes to your your lifestyle ee-iiieewiee- changes to your your lifestyle as-lifestyles .- changes to your your lifestyle as lifestyles . kevin as all of our lifestyles. kevin ceeg— as all of our lifestyles. kevin egg-wen- as all of our lifestyles. kevin enig-wew eek- as all of our lifestyles. kevin craig,-you say on. as all of our lifestyles. kevin craig, you say on on as all of our lifestyles. kevin- craig,-you say on on the craig, what do you say on on the ieci— craig, what do you say on on the ieci wneinei— craig, what do you say on on the fact whether or— craig, what do you say on on the fact whether or not— craig, what do you say on on the fact whether or not firstly, we enewii — fact whether or not firstly, we should i doing _ fact whether or not firstly, we should doing more oil and should be doing any more oil and gas should be doing any more oil and gee-wneinei— should be doing any more oil and gee-wneinei-wewl gas drilling, whether or not you inink— gas drilling, whether or not you inink-inie— gas drilling, whether or not you think this greenpeace think that this greenpeace cneiienge— think that this greenpeace challenge potentially will be ewcceeeiwi— challenge potentially will be successful or— challenge potentially will be successful or not so on, should we ie— successful or not so on, should we be icing— successful or not so on, should we be eeing enw— successful or not so on, should we be doing any new oil and gas? no .— we be doing any new oil and gas? in . i— we be doing any new oil and gas? in . i chink— we be doing any new oil and gas? in . i think its— we be doing any new oil and gas? no , i think it's bad— we be doing any new oil and gas? no , i think it's bad for—

we be doing any new oil and gas? no , i think it's bad for the- no, i think it's bad for the i know it's bad for the environment . know it's bad for the environment. i'm sorry. i do. it's bad for the environment. i think we as a country are wasting the opportunity that we could by really not seizing the green jobs agenda . greenpeace green jobs agenda. greenpeace are using a judicial review. so, you know, as we all know , you know, as we all know, campaigning groups use judicial review all the time to try and stop what governments are doing. i think the opportunity for this country in clean power in country is in clean power in wind and solar. i do respect those also who are who don't agree with the net zero agenda. i do believe that if you talk about the end of the world and the planet, you also have to think about people struggling for the end of the month. but i think i'm glad that labour will not explore new oil and gas reserves and they're going to invest massively in green technology and jobs, which could bnng technology and jobs, which could bring to industrial bring new life to industrial heartlands. and would you feel ceniiieni— heartlands. and would you feel confident-we— heartlands. and would you feel confident-we can- heartlands. and would you feel confident-we can exist- confident that we can exist eeieiw— confident that we can exist solely exclusively renewables solely exclusively on renewables ? solely exclusively on renewables e in— solely exclusively on renewables e in nee— solely exclusively on renewables e in net eeie— solely exclusively on renewables ? i'm not sure about- solely exclusively on renewables ? i'm not sure about solely and exclusively, but there has to be the aim. but as we all know, the

sun, the well don't we know this year the sun doesn't shine all the time and the wind doesn't blow. the wind doesn't blow all the time. but there are you know, there are ways, you know, over time to work around that over time to work around that over time. absolutely over time to work around that overtime. absolutely. over time to work around that over time. absolutely . but is over time. absolutely. but is inie— over time. absolutely. but is we e— over time. absolutely. but is we e cine— over time. absolutely. but is this a time right— i absolutely. but is this a time right now to be ienning— this a time right now to be banning licences which would ieiiewe— banning licences which would relieve significant the burden on relieve significant the burden en ine— relieve significant the burden on the consumer— relieve significant the burden on the consumer ? or is this on the consumer? or is this a geei— on the consumer? or is this a geei cine— on the consumer? or is this a geee iine ie— on the consumer? or is this a good time to be— on the consumer? or is this a good time to be a— on the consumer? or is this a good time to be a very fair gweeiien— good time to be a very fair question blocking those? the ie. ei— question blocking those? the answer is, of course,- question blocking those? the answer is, of course, that- answer is, of course, that i don't believe and there's a lot of evidence in this debate that the time it takes for these new licences to from exploration to become accessible power is 28 years. and i also don't think it's going to lead to any reduction in the money that the consumer pays. so that's why i'm not persuaded by that point. but if you made that argument 28 years ago and you prevailed in that we would have the that argument, we would have the kind problems we now. kind of problems we have now. it's we haven't had it's because we haven't had ieinei— it's because we haven't had joined .thinking- it's because we haven't had joined thinking a stitch in joined up thinking a stitch in cine— joined up thinking a stitch in iinelii— joined up thinking a stitch in time-it saves— joined up thinking a stitch in time it saves nine. saves time is it saves nine. saves nne— time is it saves nine. saves ikeciiw— time is it saves nine. saves nine. exactly yeah. and you knew,— nine. exactly yeah. and you know, we're not— nine. exactly yeah. and you know, we're not taking the eeene. —

know, we're not taking the eeene. wnei— know, we're not taking the steps. what we— know, we're not taking the steps. what we what we're doing is steps. what we what we're doing ie neneninging— steps. what we what we're doing is hamstringing the country into a is hamstringing the country into e neiiiicei— is hamstringing the country into a political commitment and then neeing— a political commitment and then neeing ine— a political commitment and then hoping the technology follows and hoping the technology follows end we — hoping the technology follows end we ceei— hoping the technology follows and the cost by— hoping the technology follows and the cost by the treasury is ieiking— and the cost by the treasury is ieiking eneii— and the cost by the treasury is talking about the _ and the cost by the treasury is talking about the cost of it. by the talking about the cost of it. by ine iieeeww-e— talking about the cost of it. by the treasury's own— talking about the cost of it. by the treasury's own estimate , the treasury's own estimate, inei-e— the treasury's own estimate, inei-e geing— the treasury's own estimate, inei-e geing ie— the treasury's own estimate, that's going to be 1.4 trillion. kni— that's going to be 1.4 trillion. and we— that's going to be 1.4 trillion. and we knew— that's going to be 1.4 trillion. and we know the _ that's going to be 1.4 trillion. and we know the treasury iweiceiiw— and we know the treasury typically underestimates the ceei— typically underestimates the ceei ei— typically underestimates the cost of these— typically underestimates the cost of these things. so we're ieiking— cost of these things. so we're talking about— cost of these things. so we're talking about a— cost of these things. so we're talking about a massive cost for the talking about a massive cost for we wk— talking about a massive cost for we iik ie— talking about a massive cost for the uk to deliver— talking about a massive cost for the uk to deliver a— talking about a massive cost for the uk to deliver a political egencie— the uk to deliver a political egenie iei— the uk to deliver a political agenda for which the science is not agenda for which the science is nei eeiiiei— agenda for which the science is not settled and— agenda for which the science is not settled and gas , by the way, not settled and gas, by the way, eneii— not settled and gas, by the way, eiewi ie— not settled and gas, by the way, was about to be— not settled and gas, by the way, was about to be made a clean iwei— was about to be made a clean iwei kw— was about to be made a clean iwei iw ine— was about to be made a clean iwei iw ine iii.— was about to be made a clean fuel by the eu. and no doubt we weeke— fuel by the eu. and no doubt we wewii newe— fuel by the eu. and no doubt we would have followed suit. gas is not would have followed suit. gas is nei enei— would have followed suit. gas is not that polluting— would have followed suit. gas is not that polluting coal. yes eeinene— not that polluting coal. yes eeineee eii. — not that polluting coal. yes perhaps oil. yes— not that polluting coal. yes perhaps oil. yes perhaps gas ien-i.— perhaps oil. yes perhaps gas ien-i. kni— perhaps oil. yes perhaps gas isn't. and we've— perhaps oil. yes perhaps gas isn't. and we've got an abundance— isn't. and we've got an abundance of- isn't. and we've got an abundance of gas and i think it is abundance of gas and i think it ie eceneic— abundance of gas and i think it is economic harakiri, short eigniei— is economic harakiri, short eigniei .— is economic harakiri, short sighted . this— is economic harakiri, short sighted . this not to be taking sighted. this not to be taking eiweniege— sighted. this not to be taking eiweniege ei— sighted. this not to be taking advantage of at— sighted. this not to be taking advantage of at the moment. what gei— advantage of at the moment. what gei ie— advantage of at the moment. what we've got is importing lng at ceei— we've got is importing lng at weei ceei— we've got is importing lng at vast cost from _ we've got is importing lng at vast cost from the us because nei ieeeing— vast cost from the us because we're not tapping our own gas iieiie. — we're not tapping our own gas iieiie. ii-e— we're not tapping our own gas fields. it's lunacy,— we're not tapping our own gas fields. it's lunacy, is it lunacy? — fields. it's lunacy, is it lunacy? what- fields. it's lunacy, is it lunacy? veins; i:iii fields. it's lunacy, is it lunacy? i:iii fields. it's lunacy, is it- lunacy? what do you reckon? fields. it's lunacy, is it— lunacy? what do you reckon? who do you agree with? gb views at

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on gb news. the people's. cnennei — on gb news. the people's. channel hi— on gb news. the people's. channel hi there,- on gb news. the people's. channel ”iiiilii: ii i channel hi there, michelle dewberry. keeping you channel hi there, michelle- dewberry. keeping you company till dewberry. keeping you company iiii kee— dewberry. keeping you company till 7:00 tonight. _ keeping you company till 7:00 tonight. kevin craig, ine— till 7:00 tonight. kevin craig, rne ierner— till 7:00 tonight. kevin craig, the former labour council and the former labour council and we cre— the former labour council and we cie er— the former labour council and the ceo of communications ceneenw—nel the ceo of communications- company_me company as company plm, keeps me company as ecee— company plm, keeps me company as eece-nekin— company plm, keeps me company as eece-neiiie ine— company plm, keeps me company as does-habib, the ceo— company plm, keeps me company as does habib, the ceo of first does ben habib, the ceo of first irenenw— does ben habib, the ceo of first ereeenw creep— does ben habib, the ceo of first ereeenw creep-e— does ben habib, the ceo of first property group a former property group and a former eieen— property group and a former eieen-irri— property group and a former eieen-win .- property group and a former brexit mep . we've just brexit party mep. we've just been— brexit party mep. we've just been ieiking— brexit party mep. we've just been talking about fracking and the been talking about fracking and we nee,— been talking about fracking and the like, adrian— been talking about fracking and the like, adrian says net zero is the like, adrian says net zero ie e— the like, adrian says net zero ie e ne— the like, adrian says net zero is a scam. he puts it in ceeiieie— is a scam. he puts it in capitals. it— is a scam. he puts it in capitals. it means business. he eewe— capitals. it means business. he eewe ii— capitals. it means business. he eewe ii enewii— capitals. it means business. he says it should go— capitals. it means business. he says it should go to a referendum- says it should go to a referendum to ask the public if inie— referendum to ask the public if we ie— referendum to ask the public if we ie wnei— referendum to ask the public if this is what they— referendum to ask the public if this is what they want. one of ine— this is what they want. one of we ininge— this is what they want. one of we ininge ie— this is what they want. one of the things is though, actually all the things is though, actually eii inie— the things is though, actually eii inie ner— the things is though, actually all this net zero— the things is though, actually all this net zero stuff, it was ecrweiiw— all this net zero stuff, it was eciweiiw in— all this net zero stuff, it was actually in the— all this net zero stuff, it was actually in the manifestos at ine— actually in the manifestos at we zoos».— actually in the manifestos at inc 2009. ii— actually in the manifestos at the 2009. it was— actually in the manifestos at the 2009. it was elections. but rireiiw— the 2009. it was elections. but iireiiw in— the 2009. it was elections. but iireriw i-n nei— the 2009. it was elections. but firstly, i'm not sure— the 2009. it was elections. but firstly, i'm not sure how many people— firstly, i'm not sure how many eeeeie ecrweiiw— firstly, i'm not sure how many people actually read these manifestos—

people actually read these manifestos in— people actually read these manifestos in full. and secondly , i manifestos in full. and secondly , i ie— manifestos in full. and secondly , i ie inink— manifestos in full. and secondly , i do think that— manifestos in full. and secondly , i do think that it's only kind of , i do think that it's only kind er new— , i do think that it's only kind er iner— , i do think that it's only kind of now that people are reeiieing— of now that people are realising, well, actually inere-e— realising, well, actually inere-e e— realising, well, actually there's a real- realising, well, actually there's a real consequence here wnen— there's a real consequence here wnen ii— there's a real consequence here wnen ii ce— there's a real consequence here when it comes to— there's a real consequence here when it comes to net zero when it when it comes to net zero when i ce— when it comes to net zero when i ie— when it comes to net zero when it comes to the— when it comes to net zero when it comes to the impacts on eceeic-e— it comes to the impacts on eeeeie-e iiwee— it comes to the impacts on people's lives .— it comes to the impacts on people's lives . one of my other people's lives. one of my other ei— people's lives. one of my other viewer, one of my— people's lives. one of my other viewer, one of my other viewers is viewer, one of my other viewers ie ieiking— viewer, one of my other viewers is talking about— viewer, one of my other viewers is talking about it.— viewer, one of my other viewers is talking about it. do people iner— is talking about it. do people we wenc— is talking about it. do people we wenr re— is talking about it. do people that want to stop— is talking about it. do people that want to stop oil actually reeiiee— that want to stop oil actually reeiiee new— that want to stop oil actually realise how much oil is kind of cenieinei— realise how much oil is kind of contained within— realise how much oil is kind of contained within the creation of men— contained within the creation of men er— contained within the creation of men er ine— contained within the creation of many of the clothing items, erceiere— many of the clothing items, etcetera, that— many of the clothing items, etcetera, that people were? i inink— etcetera, that people were? i inink inei-e— etcetera, that people were? i think that's an— etcetera, that people were? i think that's an interesting reini— think that's an interesting eeini wen— think that's an interesting point you make . anyway, keep point you make. anyway, keep weer— point you make. anyway, keep weer inewgnie— point you make. anyway, keep your thoughts coming in on. i wenc— your thoughts coming in on. i wenr ie— your thoughts coming in on. i wenr re ieik— your thoughts coming in on. i want to talk about the king's cereneiien— want to talk about the king's coronation though, if i may, iecee— coronation though, if i may, because there's— coronation though, if i may, because there's been lots of cneiier— because there's been lots of cneiier enci— because there's been lots of chatter and debate about who and who chatter and debate about who and wne ie— chatter and debate about who and wne ie nei— chatter and debate about who and who is not invited— chatter and debate about who and who is not invited .— chatter and debate about who and who is not invited . and one such who is not invited. and one such inwiree— who is not invited. and one such inwiiee inei-e— who is not invited. and one such invitee that's divided opinion is invitee that's divided opinion ie sinn— invitee that's divided opinion is sinn fein's_ invitee that's divided opinion is sinn fein's leader michelle o-weiii— is sinn fein's leader michelle o-weiii .— is sinn fein's leader michelle o-weiii . ken— is sinn fein's leader michelle o'neill . you, kevin, you are o'neill. you, kevin, you are a enei— o'neill. you, kevin, you are a geek irien— o'neill. you, kevin, you are a dual irish citizen— o'neill. you, kevin, you are a dual irish citizen .- o'neill. you, kevin, you are a dual irish citizen . so i shall dual irish citizen. so i shall eeen— dual irish citizen. so i shall eien wirn— dual irish citizen. so i shall start with you. _ dual irish citizen. so i shall start with you. do you think ire— start with you. do you think we e— start with you. do you think we e geei— start with you. do you think it's a good thing— start with you. do you think it's a good thing she's there enci— it's a good thing she's there and invited— it's a good thing she's there and invited or— it's a good thing she's there and invited or not? “is and invited or not? yes, i think it's good. i think— and invited or not? yes, i think it's good. i think it's- and invited or not? yes, i think it's good. i think it's a- and invited or not? “is i g: i think it's a sign it's good. i think it's a sign of it's good. i think it's a sign er eregreee— it's good. i think it's a sign of progress. it's— i g: i think it's a sign of progress. it's obviously she

enewii— of progress. it's obviously she enewii ie— of progress. it's obviously she should be in— of progress. it's obviously she should be in normal times. the nine— should be in normal times. the first minister— should be in normal times. the first minister of— should be in normal times. the first minister of northern ireieni— first minister of northern ireieni ei— first minister of northern ireland at the— first minister of northern ireland at the moment. but sierneni— ireland at the moment. but stormont suspended and stormont is suspended and i inink— stormont is suspended and i inink ire— stormont is suspended and i inink ir-e e— stormont is suspended and i think it's a good— stormont is suspended and i think it's a good signal that ene-e— think it's a good signal that ene-e crying— think it's a good signal that she's trying reach out and she's trying to reach out and end— she's trying to reach out and eeni e— she's trying to reach out and eeni e eignei— she's trying to reach out and send a signal to— she's trying to reach out and send a signal to the people in wennern— send a signal to the people in northern ireland— send a signal to the people in northern ireland who are not of her northern ireland who are not of ner ireiiiien— northern ireland who are not of her tradition .she- northern ireland who are not of her tradition she respects her tradition that she respects wnei— her tradition that she respects wnei-inink— her tradition that she respects what-think about- her tradition that she respects what think about the what they think about the nenercnw. — what they think about the nenercnw. .- what they think about the monarchy. i think it's monarchy. and i think it's reeiiw— monarchy. and i think it's really positive— monarchy. and i think it's really positive and i think it's a really positive and i think it's e-er— really positive and i think it's a-of compromise- really positive and i think it's a of compromise and a sort of compromise and ceiiegieie— a sort of compromise and collegiate way— a sort of compromise and collegiate way of being that wennern— collegiate way of being that northern ireland needs to agree . nen.— northern ireland needs to agree . nen i— northern ireland needs to agree . ben, i totally— northern ireland needs to agree . ben, i totally disagree- northern ireland needs to agree . ben, i totally disagree. i, i think it's a appalling that sinn fein have a representative at the coronation in this is a party that still doesn't denounce ira terrorism . i'm denounce ira terrorism. i'm michelle o'neill has refused to denounce it. this is a party that wishes to break the union of great britain and northern ireland and makes no bones about it. that is their stated mission . this is a party that won't even take up its seats that it has at westminster. it holds the united kingdom in such contempt that and i kind of looked

askance at the king when he was inviting multi—faith people to his to what is should be a church of england event. but this for me really takes it beyond the pale to have michelle o'neill, who holds the united kingdom in contempt and remember , he is being crowned as king of the union of great britain and northern ireland. i think it's appalling. i can't put it into words how bad i think this is. and lady hicks, for example , who and lady hicks, for example, who is the daughter of mountbatten, blown up by the ira and was a bridesmaid at the queen's wedding. his mother's wedding was not invited . and that is the was not invited. and that is the messaging that's going out. we are so , our political class and are so, our political class and the institutions of this country are so that we are prepared to be browbeaten and kowtow to someone who will not denounce terrorism, who wants to break our country. and we won't honour those who stand by our country. i despair . i,

those who stand by our country. i despair. i, i despair at the ieck— i despair. i, i despair at the ieck ei— i despair. i, i despair at the ieck er .— i despair. i, i despair at the lack of . how— i despair. i, i despair at the lack of . how do— i despair. i, i despair at the lack of . how do i- : ” i, i despair at the lack of . how do i describe it. lack of. how do i describe it. senerinee— lack of. how do i describe it. sometimes what— lack of. how do i describe it. sometimes what how what you say and sometimes what how what you say ene new— sometimes what how what you say ene new wen— sometimes what how what you say ene new you eek— sometimes what how what you say and how you say. it— sometimes what how what you say and how you say. it is so erriieni— and how you say. it is so strident and— and how you say. it is so strident and you make no mention of strident and you make no mention er ine— strident and you make no mention er rne recr— strident and you make no mention of the fact that— strident and you make no mention of the fact that northern ireieni— of the fact that northern ireland has— of the fact that northern ireland has got a huge number of ecenic— ireland has got a huge number of eeeeie wne— ireland has got a huge number of people who voted— ireland has got a huge number of people who voted for her party, wennern— people who voted for her party, northern ireland— people who voted for her party, northern ireland is part of the iiniiei— northern ireland is part of the united kingdom _ northern ireland is part of the united kingdom and rightly enewii— united kingdom and rightly enewii stew-— united kingdom and rightly should stay. so until or if such cine— should stay. so until or if such rine e— should stay. so until or if such rine e neierirw— should stay. so until or if such time a majority of— should stay. so until or if such time a majority of people vote to time a majority of people vote re reeve— time a majority of people vote re ieewe ii.— time a majority of people vote to leave it. yes,— time a majority of people vote to leave it. yes, the sinn fein irien— to leave it. yes, the sinn fein are irish republicans. okay incre— are irish republicans. okay inere ere— are irish republicans. okay inere i— are irish republicans. okay there are, i think, the first iiinieier— there are, i think, the first minister of— there are, i think, the first minister of scotland is a keewiiicen— minister of scotland is a republican .— minister of scotland is a republican . so you wouldn't have republican. so you wouldn't have nine— republican. so you wouldn't have nine i— republican. so you wouldn't have nine i weeke— republican. so you wouldn't have him? i would not— republican. so you wouldn't have him? i would not have i would nei— him? i would not have i would nei newe— him? i would not have i would nei newe e— him? i would not have i would not have a separate list at a at a not have a separate list at a at e cereneiien— not have a separate list at a at a coronation of— not have a separate list at a at a coronation of the— not have a separate list at a at a coronation of the king of the wnirei— a coronation of the king of the united kingdom. _ a coronation of the king of the united kingdom. �*7 i united kingdom. so what if it helped try to convert them? what have they done since coronation?— what have they done since coronation? it— what have they done since coronation? it doesn't realise ieweiwiien— coronation? it doesn't realise devolution was— coronation? it doesn't realise devolution was tried when you ceei— devolution was tried when you reed—wen— devolution was tried when you feed—you don't- devolution was tried when you feed you don't what feed the beast, you don't what the feed the beast, you don't what we eceei— feed the beast, you don't what the beast does— feed the beast, you don't what the beast does not become ieciie. — the beast does not become ieciie. ine— the beast does not become docile. the beast- the beast does not become docile. g iii: the beast does not become docile. g ii: iii: docile. the beast gets fed and it becomes more aggressive. devolution was a labour prime

minister's attempt to try and settle the separatist issue. all it's done is feed the beast and the protocol is the result of threats of violence. the northern ireland protocol, which i challenged in court and by the way, i see that as a victory because the supreme court of this country ruled that it broke the act of union, the fundamental constitutional basis on this country exists. on which this country exists. you lost the case, though . we you lost the case, though. we won. it was a victory. but you lost. but won. it was a victory. but you ieei. nwi wen— won. it was a victory. but you lost. but you lost— won. it was a victory. but you lost. but you lost the- iiiii" i . iiiiigi but you lost. but you lost the case. �*fii�*ii lost. but you lost the case. we ene— lost. but you lost the case. we won the argument.— lost. but you lost the case. we won the argument. kevin, i mean, it's surprising for me that a member of the labour party, in fact, the labour party as a whole, which advocates that people in northern ireland should for the sdlp, can should vote for the sdlp, can call in any shape or call themselves in any shape or form unionists. northern ireland is an integral part of the united kingdom. indeed, without northern there is no northern ireland, there is no united kingdom. so to have the head of a party that wants to break the country, of which our monarch is king at the coronation just i can't. i just can't understand the thing. so

you wouldn't so you is?" i i so you wouldn't so you wouldn't newe— you wouldn't so you wouldn't newe ine— you wouldn't so you wouldn't have the woman— you wouldn't so you wouldn't have the woman who's been eieciei— have the woman who's been elected first— have the woman who's been elected first minister of wennern— elected first minister of northern ireland, you wouldn't newe— northern ireland, you wouldn't newe ine— northern ireland, you wouldn't have the leader— northern ireland, you wouldn't have the leader of scotland, the ieeier— have the leader of scotland, the ieeier er— have the leader of scotland, the leader of-snp_ have the leader of scotland, the leader of-snp ,_ have the leader of scotland, the leader of-snp , the- have the leader of scotland, the leader of snp , the snp, leader of the snp, the snp, and you leader of the snp, the snp, and wen ee— leader of the snp, the snp, and you wen— leader of the snp, the snp, and you you i— leader of the snp, the snp, and you are you i mean, you're even in reveri— you are you i mean, you're even in iewewr eriii— you are you i mean, you're even in favour still of— you are you i mean, you're even in favour still of the good rriiew— in favour still of the good friday agreement. i i question the friday agreement. i i question rne ceei— friday agreement. i i question the good friday— friday agreement. i i question the good friday agreement iecee— the good friday agreementi iecewee—ine because the principle of the ceei— because the principle of the ceei rriiew— because the principle of the good friday agreement and the newer— good friday agreement and the belfast agreement was that there weeke— belfast agreement was that there wewii ie— belfast agreement was that there wewii ire ne— belfast agreement was that there would be no significant change to would be no significant change re ine— would be no significant change to the constitutional arrangements for northern ireieni— arrangements for northern ireland without cross—community ceneni ine— ireland without cross—community consent. the live— ireland without cross—community consent. the live save- ireland without cross—community consent. the live save look at the piece . look at the live save the piece. look at the live save cernrerninee— the piece. look at the live save compromise. well— the piece. look at the live save compromise. well we - iiiiii look at the live save compromise. well we could have cenerenieei— compromise. well we could have compromised with— compromise. well we could have compromised with hitler in 1939. inn-e— compromised with hitler in 1939. were e— compromised with hitler in 1939. were e knee-e— compromised with hitler in 1939. that's a that's a— compromised with hitler in 1939. that's a that's a really— that's a that's a really facetious comparison . we could facetious comparison. we could have done it lies— facetious comparison. we could have done it lies with- f iiiiii�* siii" we could have done it lies with hitler. wee— have done it lies with hitler. wee e— have done it lies with hitler. was a fascist— have done it lies with hitler. was a fascist who threatened iner— was a fascist who threatened we were— was a fascist who threatened that you're and— was a fascist who threatened that you're and my freedom to sit that you're and my freedom to eir nere— that you're and my freedom to eir nere enci— that you're and my freedom to sit here and argue— that you're and my freedom to sit here and argue with each cenen— sit here and argue with each erner. — sit here and argue with each erner. kni— sit here and argue with each other. and you're- sit here and argue with each other. ' ig other. and you're comparing hitler the good friday hitler with the good friday agreement? i'm not comparing wicker— agreement? i'm not comparing wicker-ceei— agreement? i'm not comparing hitler-good-i. hitler with the good friday. i iner— hitler with the good friday. i we need— hitler with the good friday. i we need ii.— hitler with the good friday. i just heard it. no— hitler with the good friday. i just heard it. no i didn't. i ken— just heard it. no i didn't. i ken wee— just heard it. no i didn't. i you were suggesting that there eneniin-i— you were suggesting that there shouldn't-resist- you were suggesting that there shouldn't resist put up to shouldn't be a resist put up to a shouldn't be a resist put up to e ireeking— shouldn't be a resist put up to e ireeking er— shouldn't be a resist put up to a breaking of the— shouldn't be a resist put up to a breaking of the united kingdom iecne— a breaking of the united kingdom because there— a breaking of the united kingdom because there is— a breaking of the united kingdom because there is peace engeneerei— because there is peace engendered by us pandering to

sinn— engendered by us pandering to sinn rein— engendered by us pandering to sinn rein .— engendered by us pandering to sinn fein . what— engendered by us pandering to sinn fein . what i'm saying sinn fein. what i'm saying ecineiiw— sinn fein. what i'm saying ecineiiw .— sinn fein. what i'm saying ecrneiiw , ie— sinn fein. what i'm saying actually , is that you mustn't at actually, is that you mustn't at cenein— actually, is that you mustn't at certain levels,— actually, is that you mustn't at certain levels, pander. you nnein-i— certain levels, pander. you mustn't pander— certain levels, pander. you mustn't pander to threats of weenie — mustn't pander to threats of violence. absolutely no one's eeneering— violence. absolutely no one's eeneering ie— violence. absolutely no one's pandering to threats of violence by pandering to threats of violence iw inwiring— pandering to threats of violence iw inwiring ine— pandering to threats of violence by inviting the first minister to by inviting the first minister re ine— by inviting the first minister to the coronation the reason we got to the coronation the reason we gei ine— to the coronation the reason we gei rne angie— to the coronation the reason we got the anglo british agreement in rees— got the anglo british agreement in iees ie— got the anglo british agreement in 1985 is because it's the firec— in 1985 is because it's the iirei cine— in 1985 is because it's the first time after— in 1985 is because it's the first time after the brighton ieniinge— first time after the brighton bombings, margaret thatcher was cewei— bombings, margaret thatcher was cewei ie— bombings, margaret thatcher was cewei re ee— bombings, margaret thatcher was cowed to some extent by ierrenern— cowed to some extent by terrorism. then- cowed to some extent by terrorism. then we were cowed by ienenern— terrorism. then we were cowed by ienenern egein— terrorism. then we were cowed by terrorism again. and— terrorism. then we were cowed by terrorism again. and gave in to the terrorism again. and gave in to we ceei— terrorism again. and gave in to the good friday— terrorism again. and gave in to the good friday agreement and add the good friday agreement and eii ine— the good friday agreement and add the threat— the good friday agreement and add the threat of— the good friday agreement and add the threat of terrorism from leo add the threat of terrorism from iee vereiker— add the threat of terrorism from leo varadkar resulted in in the nreiecei— leo varadkar resulted in in the prerecei being— leo varadkar resulted in in the protocol being terrorists on all eiiee— protocol being terrorists on all eiiee . — protocol being terrorists on all eiiee . inn— protocol being terrorists on all sides. i'm sorry— protocol being terrorists on all sides. i'm sorry to- protocol being terrorists on all sides. i'm sorry to interrupt you, but there were terrorists on all sides, loyalist republican publicans. there was violence. the british army and i iewe— violence. the british army and i iewe nriiein— violence. the british army and i iewe nriiein . — violence. the british army and i love britain . i— violence. the british army and i love britain . i love— violence. the british army and i love britain . i love our- love britain. i love our military. but the british army shot dead, innocent civilians in sunday. there was terror and tragedy on all sides. and the good friday agreement by compromise has made peace. what it did was forgive terrorism , it did was forgive terrorism, um, and hold unionists to

account. it was iniquity in the way— account. it was iniquity in the we iner— account. it was iniquity in the we me i— account. it was iniquity in the way that it was— account. it was iniquity in the way that it was put— if it was iniquity in the way that it was put in place. kni— way that it was put in place. and kw— way that it was put in place. and iw ine— way that it was put in place. and iw rne wew— way that it was put in place. and by the way, unionists it's ceri— and by the way, unionists it's ceii eew— and by the way, unionists it's ceii ine— and by the way, unionists it's cell saw the good friday kgreeneni— cell saw the good friday agreement as- cell saw the good friday agreement as a peace settlement. the republicans— agreement as a peace settlement. the republicans and the nationalists— the republicans and the nationalists didn't. they saw it as a bridgehead— nationalists didn't. they saw it as a bridgehead for further concessions. _ as a bridgehead for further concessions. and what we've seen enci— concessions. and what we've seen ene wnei— concessions. and what we've seen end we w-wee— concessions. and what we've seen and what we've experienced and sinn— and what we've experienced and sinn rein-e— and what we've experienced and sinn fein's presence at the cereneiien— sinn fein's presence at the coronation symbolises it is a neriening— coronation symbolises it is a neriening er— coronation symbolises it is a hardening of that position. the weien— hardening of that position. the ieie— hardening of that position. the union ists are— hardening of that position. the union ists are being sat on by weernineier,— union ists are being sat on by westminster, being sat on by the ineiiinriene— westminster, being sat on by the institutions in— westminster, being sat on by the institutions in this— westminster, being sat on by the institutions in this country and succour is being— institutions in this country and succour is being given to eeeereiieie— succour is being given to separatists and that's that's abomination.— separatists and that's that's abomination. i'll just say that gee.— abomination. i'll just say that enn ei— abomination. i'll just say that gee. er people— abomination. i'll just say that 69% of people in— abomination. i'll just say that 69% of people in northern ieiene— 69% of people in northern ireland think— 69% of people in northern ireland think that the windsor rrenewerk— ireland think that the windsor framework has— ireland think that the windsor framework has should be given a go framework has should be given a ge enci— framework has should be given a ge ene wiri— framework has should be given a go and will make— framework has should be given a go and will make things better. eew— go and will make things better. new ei— go and will make things better. new ei eceeic— go and will make things better. 66% of people want— go and will make things better. 66% of people want stormont to come back. i don't know where you get the queen's university opinion poll right. you know queen's university. well, there you go. well, there you go . i you go. well, there you go. i will leave you— you go. well, there you go. i will leave you to— you go. well, there you go. i will leave you to make-

you go. c"iiil”iiil igiii i will leave you to make your own ninie— will leave you to make your own ninie ne— will leave you to make your own ninie ne ei— will leave you to make your own minds up at home— will leave you to make your own minds up at home as to who you egree— minds up at home as to who you egree wiin— minds up at home as to who you egree wiin er— minds up at home as to who you agree with or maybe never. maybe wen-we—eeeereiei you've got a completely separate .rnengnie— view. your thoughts gbviews@gbnews.uk . i want to gbviews@gbnews.uk. i want to talk gbviews@gbnews.uk. i want to talk ,_ gbviews@gbnews.uk. i want to reik , inengn— gbviews@gbnews.uk. i want to talk , though, about unruly kids talk, though, about unruly kids in eenicnien— talk, though, about unruly kids in particular, some of this horrendous— in particular, some of this horrendous bullying behaviour were— horrendous bullying behaviour were geing— horrendous bullying behaviour were geing en— horrendous bullying behaviour that's going on at the moment, wnicn— that's going on at the moment, wnicn nee— that's going on at the moment, which has been— that's going on at the moment, which has been filmed and shared far which has been filmed and shared ier eni— which has been filmed and shared ier ene wine— which has been filmed and shared far and wide on— which has been filmed and shared far and wide on social media, wrecking— far and wide on social media, wrecking ine— far and wide on social media, wrecking the lives of children. kni— wrecking the lives of children. and i— wrecking the lives of children. and i eneneci— wrecking the lives of children. and i suspect their broader reniiiee— and i suspect their broader ieniiiee ee— and i suspect their broader families as well, whose responsibility- families as well, whose responsibility is it? where does the responsibility is it? where does ene—i— responsibility is it? where does ine—i eew— responsibility is it? where does ine—i eew wen- responsibility is it? where does the—i say you the. the buck stop? i say you the perenn— the buck stop? i say you the perenr, wnei— the buck stop? i say you the parent, what says you? see you .

in two. hello in two. - hello there. in we. - hello there. i'm in we— hello there. i'm michelle dewberry keeping you company till 7:00 tonight. kevin craig is till 7:00 tonight. kevin craig ie ine— till 7:00 tonight. kevin craig is the former— till 7:00 tonight. kevin craig is the former labour- i i i�* 00 g kevin craig is the former labour council and the is the former labour council and we cre— is the former labour council and we cie er— is the former labour council and the ceo of communication company rinr— the ceo of communication company rinr-neiii— the ceo of communication company rinr-neiii ie— the ceo of communication company ler-habib is the- the ceo of communication company ler habib is the ceo of ler and ben habib is the ceo of rirer— ler and ben habib is the ceo of we rrenew— ler and ben habib is the ceo of first property group— ler and ben habib is the ceo of first property group and a rerner— first property group and a rerner-renw- first property group and a former-party can former brexit party mep. i can ieik— former brexit party mep. i can ien-iner— former brexit party mep. i can tell that conversation tell you now that conversation ieiween— tell you now that conversation ieiween-iwe — tell you now that conversation between two about northern between these two about northern ieiene—

between these two about northern ireland continued— between these two about northern ireland continued into the week. — ireland continued into the week. ieie— ireland continued into the break. lots of— ireland continued into the break. lots of varying opinions cening— break. lots of varying opinions cening in— break. lots of varying opinions coming in from _ break. lots of varying opinions coming in from you guys at home. ieckie— coming in from you guys at home. ieckie sne— coming in from you guys at home. ieckie sne iner— coming in from you guys at home. jackie she just says. _ coming in from you guys at home. jackie she just says. michelle of jackie she just says. michelle or cenee— jackie she just says. michelle or .— jackie she just says. michelle of course , sinn— jackie she just says. michelle of course , sinn fein leader of course, sinn fein leader enenii— of course, sinn fein leader enenii ie— of course, sinn fein leader should be invited to the coronation _ should be invited to the coronation northern ireland is part— coronation northern ireland is new er— coronation northern ireland is een er ine— coronation northern ireland is een er rne wk.— coronation northern ireland is part of the uk. whatever anyone ininke— part of the uk. whatever anyone ininke eni— part of the uk. whatever anyone thinks, and sinn— part of the uk. whatever anyone thinks, and sinn fein are the wing— thinks, and sinn fein are the rniing teeny.— thinks, and sinn fein are the ruling party- can_ thinks, and sinn fein are the ruling party. can you move on? iiicneiie— ruling party. can you move on? michelle and— ruling party. can you move on? michelle and just— ruling party. can you move on? michelle and just encourage a irignier— michelle and just encourage a brighter future— michelle and just encourage a brighter future there you go. i reki— brighter future there you go. i ieii wen— brighter future there you go. i can tell you, though, that is ei— can tell you, though, that is er ine— can tell you, though, that is one of the most— can tell you, though, that is one of the most responded to renice— one of the most responded to reeice iner— one of the most responded to topics that i've— one of the most responded to topics that i've done tonight. nni— topics that i've done tonight. in i— topics that i've done tonight. in i wiri— topics that i've done tonight. but i will move— topics that i've done tonight. but i will move on just for time reasons, because— but i will move on just for time reasons, because there has been a reasons, because there has been e nerreniene— reasons, because there has been a horrendous spike— reasons, because there has been a horrendous spike in young people— a horrendous spike in young people recording attacks ieeiceiiw— people recording attacks basically when are basically when people are inew-re— basically when people are inew-re iner— basically when people are they're just doing horrendous ininge— they're just doing horrendous things-children - they're just doing horrendous things-children .- things to other children. ieecing—eni things to other children.- loading_on social loading the footage on social neiie— loading the footage on social neiie. i— loading the footage on social media. i will— loading the footage on social media. i will not— loading the footage on social media. i will not be showing any of media. i will not be showing any er ineee— media. i will not be showing any of these videos— media. i will not be showing any of these videos because they iner— of these videos because they eer-neen,- just break my heart, quite rrenkiw— just break my heart, quite rrenkiw .— just break my heart, quite frankly , and— just break my heart, quite frankly , and i— just break my heart, quite frankly , and i don't want to frankly, and i don't want to nniiien— frankly, and i don't want to publish-this- frankly, and i don't want to publish-this is- frankly, and i don't want to publish this is a thing publish them. this is a thing iner— publish them. this is a thing that sickens— publish them. this is a thing that sickens me.— publish them. this is a thing that sickens me. you know that sickens me. ben. you know eeorye kee— that sickens me. ben. you know eeorye wee i— that sickens me. ben. you know everyone. yes, i know. fighting wenc— everyone. yes, i know. fighting weni en— everyone. yes, i know. fighting weni en wnen— everyone. yes, i know. fighting went on when people were younger and went on when people were younger ene eii— went on when people were younger ene eii ine— went on when people were younger and all the rest— went on when people were younger and all the rest-it.— went on when people were younger and all the rest it. but this and all the rest of it. but this is and all the rest of it. but this ie e— and all the rest of it. but this is a different— and all the rest of it. but this is a different level and the recercing— is a different level and the recording of— is a different level and the recording of this, the sharing far recording of this, the sharing rer-wine— recording of this, the sharing rer-wine .— recording of this, the sharing far-wide , what- recording of this, the sharing far wide , what this must be far and wide, what this must be icing— far and wide, what this must be ieing re— far and wide, what this must be eeing re ineee— far and wide, what this must be doing to those child victims is

enci— doing to those child victims is end eiee— doing to those child victims is end eiee ine— doing to those child victims is and also the families of these wiciine— and also the families of these wicrine. ir— and also the families of these victims. it doesn't— and also the families of these victims. it doesn't you know, it ieeen-r— victims. it doesn't you know, it ieeen-i beer— victims. it doesn't you know, it doesn't bear thinking about to kni— doesn't bear thinking about to and i— doesn't bear thinking about to me. and i look— doesn't bear thinking about to me. and i look and i think, how wen— me. and i look and i think, how you eiee— me. and i look and i think, how can you stop this?— me. and i look and i think, how can you stop this? how can you eiee— can you stop this? how can you eiee iie— can you stop this? how can you eree ire kni— can you stop this? how can you stop it? and one— can you stop this? how can you stop it? and one of— can you stop this? how can you stop it? and one of the early wewe— stop it? and one of the early wewe iner— stop it? and one of the early wewe we r— stop it? and one of the early ways that i can— stop it? and one of the early ways that i can think of is make nerenie— ways that i can think of is make eerenie mere— ways that i can think of is make parents more accountable for ineir— parents more accountable for their_ disgust. their just the feral disgust eeiing— their just the feral disgust eating child's— their just the feral disgust- eating child's-because eating child's behaviour because it's eating child's behaviour because we iner— eating child's behaviour because it's that animalistic. when i've ieekei— it's that animalistic. when i've ieekeci ei— it's that animalistic. when i've looked at some— it's that animalistic. when i've looked at some of— it's that animalistic. when i've looked at some of this stuff and ice— looked at some of this stuff and ive ger— looked at some of this stuff and ive gei ie— looked at some of this stuff and ice gei re eiee— looked at some of this stuff and i've got to stop looking at it, i-we— i've got to stop looking at it, we ecenei— i've got to stop looking at it, i've stopped looking at it these newe— i've stopped looking at it these eewe necne— i've stopped looking at it these days because it— i've stopped looking at it these days because it upsets me too nncn. — days because it upsets me too nncn. i— days because it upsets me too nncn. iwenii— days because it upsets me too much. i would like to see these nerenie— much. i would like to see these eerenie recing— much. i would like to see these parents facing charges. �*fii�*iii parents facing charges. well, the presumption when i grew up was that parents were responsible children. was that parents were respcwas le children. was that parents were respcwas the children. was that parents were respcwas the presumption'en. was that parents were- respcwas the presumption that that was the presumption thatj was—course, where was the time, of course, where ine— was the time, of course, where we eieie — was the time, of course, where the state hadn't— was the time, of course, where the state hadn't intervened in winneiiw— the state hadn't intervened in winneiiw even— the state hadn't intervened in virtually every aspect of our iiwee. — virtually every aspect of our lives. _course, - virtually every aspect of our lives. course, what we've lives. but of course, what we've eeen-rne — lives. but of course, what we've eeen-rne ieer— lives. but of course, what we've seen .the last 40 - lives. but of course, what we've seen the last 40 years is seen over the last 40 years is an increasingly— seen over the last 40 years is an increasingly interventionist erere— an increasingly interventionist eieie eni— an increasingly interventionist eieie end we— an increasingly interventionist state and we saw— an increasingly interventionist state and we saw it, i think, as far state and we saw it, i think, as ier ee— state and we saw it, i think, as ier ee inie— state and we saw it, i think, as far as this topic— state and we saw it, i think, as far as this topic is— state and we saw it, i think, as far as this topic is concerned in cenniere— far as this topic is concerned in complete evidence in the last inigei— in complete evidence in the last enegei wnere— in complete evidence in the last budget where jeremy hunt made cniii— budget where jeremy hunt made cniii cee— budget where jeremy hunt made child care available for mothers wiin— child care available for mothers with children— child care available for mothers with children as— child care available for mothers with children as young as nine newne— with children as young as nine nenrne. se— with children as young as nine months. so what— with children as young as nine months. so what they've been encenreging— months. so what they've been encouraging effectively is for neinere— encouraging effectively is for nernere ie— encouraging effectively is for mothers to go— encouraging effectively is for mothers to go out and work for

the mothers to go out and work for we reniiiei— mothers to go out and work for the familial unit— mothers to go out and work for the familial unit to be broken up the familial unit to be broken ne eni— the familial unit to be broken ne ene rer— the familial unit to be broken up and for the— the familial unit to be broken up and for the state to look ener— up and for the state to look eiier ine— up and for the state to look after the child.— up and for the state to look after the child. that's the iireciien— after the child. that's the direction of— after the child. that's the direction of travel that we've been — direction of travel that we've been en — direction of travel that we've been on as a country. that's a cop— been on as a country. that's a cee ene.— been on as a country. that's a cop out, though, because i've worked full time since my son was six months old. that does not. some people manage it, eiinineie— not. some people manage it, eliminate me— not. some people manage it, eliminate me from _ some people manage it, eliminate me from responsibility for-absolutely- eliminate me from responsibility for-absolutely right. for my kids. absolutely right. and we've got to turn that pendulum back. parents pendulum right back. and parents need understand that they need to understand that they need to understand that they need be responsible. whether need to be responsible. whether or not find parents or you , or not you find parents or you, you know, charge them or whatever it is that you would need order to bring need to do in order to bring them account. now, that's them to account. now, that's another bit of state action. so, you not completely you know, i'm not completely clear own how i would clear in my own head how i would tackle it, but somehow the state needs to get out of bringing children parents children up. parents need to take responsibility for it. take more responsibility for it. and certainly should and certainly parents should not be give up be encouraged to give up their children to state and just children to the state and just assume abrogate that assume and abrogate that responsibility. to responsibility. there's got to be a responsibility. it's laziness anyway. i- l it's laziness anyway. i think be a responsibility. it's laziness anyway. i think many laziness anyway. i think so many nerenie— laziness anyway. i think so many eerenie-iezw. — laziness anyway. i think so many parents-lazy. you— laziness anyway. i think so many parents lazy. you have kids. parents are lazy. you have kids. neneeiiw— parents are lazy. you have kids. neneeiiw i— parents are lazy. you have kids. neneeriw i gei— parents are lazy. you have kids. honestly, i get so— parents are lazy. you have kids. honestly, i get so annoyed i cenin— honestly, i get so annoyed i cenii eeene— honestly, i get so annoyed i could spend a— honestly, i get so annoyed i could spend a whole hour doing this could spend a whole hour doing we enn-ecn— could spend a whole hour doing this subject, but— could spend a whole hour doing this subject, but i— could spend a whole hour doing this subject, but i work. you newe— this subject, but i work. you newe-geing— this subject, but i work. you have going nurseries?

have kids going to nurseries? sene— have kids going to nurseries? sorry, - schools _ have kids going to nurseries? sorry,-schools to- have kids going to nurseries? sorry, schools to primary sorry, two schools to primary ecneeie.— sorry, two schools to primary. schools. _toilet schools. they're not even toilet ireineci— schools. they're not even toilet ireinei. i— schools. they're not even toilet trained. i think— schools. they're not even toilet trained. i think it's— schools. they're not even toilet trained. i think it's absolutely eiegreceini— trained. i think it's absolutely eiegrecerni .— trained. i think it's absolutely disgraceful , obviously. i trained. i think it's absolutely disgraceful, obviously. i mean, in— disgraceful, obviously. i mean, in ner— disgraceful, obviously. i mean, i'm not talking— disgraceful, obviously. i mean, i'm not talking about children wiin—reikingl with disabilities. i'm talking eeene— with disabilities. i'm talking about-children- with disabilities. i'm talking about children whose about healthy children whose nerenie— about healthy children whose ieience-ceni— about healthy children whose parents-can't be- about healthy children whose parents can't be bothered . parents just can't be bothered. keen— parents just can't be bothered. keen keen. — parents just can't be bothered. keen keen. i— parents just can't be bothered. yeah, yeah. i parents just can't be bothered. yeah, yeah. i mean, i think we all feel the outrage that you articulated earlier about some of incidents, the of these incidents, the behaviour of the young people and them sharing. number one, the there's no excuse for tech platforms allowing this stuff to be shared that needs to be clamped it can be clamped down on and it can be the about the state trying the issue about the state trying to encourage edge and grab responsibility for children. i think the direction of policy in this country has been more about if want go to work, how if women want to go to work, how can we make it easier for them? and thing is, which and the other thing is, which i don't have the for, is don't have the answer for, is why ? how can we get bad parents why? how can we get bad parents to be better? what are the mechanisms to do that? because not everybody is lucky to have 1 or 2 parents who care and love them and bring them up well, like we were and many of you and listeners. and the answer to that, michelle, i'm not sure if

find chaotic is equip parents who are already failing is the answer. schools need to be empowered to do more. we've had massive cuts to youth services across the country. there's less for kids to do, but ultimately it will. finding these parents, will it change or they just ignore the fines? they don't care about fining parents the stops. are all these parents reking— stops. are all these parents reking eneii— stops. are all these parents taking their kids— are all these parents taking their kids out of school on taking their kids out of school en neiiiewe— taking their kids out of school on holidays in— taking their kids out of school on holidays in term time? paddy eewe— on holidays in term time? paddy eewe iiicneiie. — on holidays in term time? paddy says michelle. he— on holidays in term time? paddy says michelle. he thinks i'm being— says michelle. he thinks i'm being gniie— says michelle. he thinks i'm being quite harsh, he says, we irengni— being quite harsh, he says, we irengnr en— being quite harsh, he says, we brought our daughter up with reve— brought our daughter up with iewe -rickei- brought our daughter up with love _ticked all- brought our daughter up with love ticked all your love and care ticked all your iee— love and care ticked all your ieence-inew- love and care ticked all your boxes.-they get- love and care ticked all your boxes. they get to boxes. but once they get to ieenegen— boxes. but once they get to teenager,-don't- boxes. but once they get to teenager, don't stand teenager, they don't stand a cencen — teenager, they don't stand a chance. that's— teenager, they don't stand a chance. that's what he says. neieren— chance. that's what he says. neieren eewe— chance. that's what he says. deborah says capitals. yes, deborah says in capitals. yes, neke— deborah says in capitals. yes, make-responsible- deborah says in capitals. yes, make responsible for their make them responsible for their cniiiren.— make them responsible for their children-about— make them responsible for their children. about paddy's children. what about paddy's view— children. what about paddy's incre— children. what about paddy's view there, which is when they geie—newe- view there, which is when they geie—newe e- view there, which is when theyi gets—have a mind gets teenage, they have a mind of gets teenage, they have a mind ei-ewn. — gets teenage, they have a mind ei-ewn. knwwew- gets teenage, they have a mind of own. anyway, gents, of their own. anyway, gents, reek,— of their own. anyway, gents, reek-cine— of their own. anyway, gents, look,-time flew. - of their own. anyway, gents, look, time flew. you manage look, the time flew. you manage not look, the time flew. you manage nei-eecn— look, the time flew. you manage not-each other. - look, the time flew. you manage not each other. that may not to kill each other. that may yet not to kill each other. that may wei neeeen.— not to kill each other. that may yet happen-have- not to kill each other. that may yet happen. have to get yet happen. i didn't have to get my yet happen. i didn't have to get nw-cerie— yet happen. i didn't have to get nw-cerie ene,— yet happen. i didn't have to get my cards out, which very my green cards out, which i very nncn—ieel much appreciate. i'm a bit too eie— much appreciate. i'm a bit too eii ie— much appreciate. i'm a bit too eii re ie— much appreciate. i'm a bit too eii re ire e— much appreciate. i'm a bit too old to be a ringo.— much appreciate. i'm a bit too old to be a ringo. if you're iner— old to be a ringo. if you're iner innei— old to be a ringo. if you're just tuned in.— old to be a ringo. if you're just tuned in. you missed a renieeiic— just tuned in. you missed a fantastic debate. back and fantastic debate. go back and wercn— fantastic debate. go back and wercn-rer- fantastic debate. go back and. watch _for-aslef. watch it up. but for now, aslef. wen,— watch it up. but for now, aslef. wen, wigei— watch it up. but for now, aslef.

wen, wigei-ie- watch it up. but for now, aslef. well, nigel-is next- well, nigel farage is next evening. — well, nigel farage is next evening. alex- well, nigel farage is next evening. nix i i well, nigel farage is next evening. giix " ”iiiiliil well, nigel farage is next- evening. alex deakin here with your latest weather update. a bit of wet one out there at bit of a wet one out there at the moment that will lead to the moment and that will lead to a dull tomorrow. a fairly dull start tomorrow. but cheer up as go but it should cheer up as we go through the day and for many it will feel quite a bit will start to feel quite a bit warmer. but right now got warmer. but right now we've got a couple of areas of low pressure, a big one out in the atlantic driving this smaller one the country. and it's one across the country. and it's been providing rain been providing outbreaks of rain for already today. and for many already today. and that rain more extensive for many already today. and that rain the more extensive for many already today. and that rain the evening,3xtensive for many already today. and that rain the evening, spreading through the evening, spreading into southern into northern england, southern scotland tending little drier scotland tending a little drier perhaps across southernmost counties of england. but for most it's a pretty damp night, a cloudy night, a breezy night in places. but it won't be as cold as recent nights. temperatures mostly up at 6 or 7 and mostly holding up at 6 or 7 and double figures across the south on to friday. and it does start pretty dull and for many pretty damp. but generally dry conditions across the south. and it should cheer up, should get a bit brighter through the day, certainly for parts of wales, south—west england by lunchtime and then western scotland, southern england and eventually

parts midlands likely to parts of the midlands likely to see some fleeting glimpses of sunshine , eastern areas always sunshine, eastern areas always staying quite staying fairly glum and quite cold. ireland cold. northern ireland brightening a potential brightening up with a potential for heavy showers in the for some heavy showers in the south where we could see temperatures 19, maybe temperatures up to 19, maybe even celsius where we get even 20 celsius where we get some blue sky. the cloud and the outbreaks of rain will continue to fritter away, away to the east during friday evening . so east during friday evening. so most places start the weekend dry. going to be a bit of a messy one this weekend. there'll be cloud and rain at times for northern ireland, southern scotland on saturday and then some heavy showers breaking out in the afternoon. parts of wales, the midlands, northern ireland, but mostly dry , ireland, but mostly dry, northern southern and northern scotland's southern and eastern england largely dry on saturday as well. and again where we see some sunshine warmer than it has been 20 degrees where it stays dull, only 11 or 12. the mixed picture continues through this weekend. warmer than this week. there will be and bright periods, will be dry and bright periods, but will heavy but there will be some heavy showers as well. goodbye .

good evening. tonight on farage, . good evening. tonight on rerege, we— . good evening. tonight on farage, we look— . good evening. tonight on farage, we look at- good evening. tonight on farage, we look at the government's white paper on geniiing. — government's white paper on geniiing. lir— government's white paper on gambling. it appropriate to gambling. is it appropriate to rreer— gambling. is it appropriate to rice ze— gambling. is it appropriate to rice ze weer— gambling. is it appropriate to treat 24 year olds as if they're ner— treat 24 year olds as if they're nei ecineiiw— treat 24 year olds as if they're not actually grown ups? we will eiee— not actually grown ups? we will eiee ge— not actually grown ups? we will eiee ge ie— not actually grown ups? we will eiee ge re ine— not actually grown ups? we will also go to the pub— not actually grown ups? we will also go to the pub in essex and we reiiewei— also go to the pub in essex and we followed this— also go to the pub in essex and we followed this landlord over the we followed this landlord over we cenee— we followed this landlord over the course of— we followed this landlord over the course of the— we followed this landlord over the course of the last couple of weee— the course of the last couple of wee nee— the course of the last couple of years. he's finally— the course of the last couple of years. he's finally giving up enci— years. he's finally giving up ene neniing— years. he's finally giving up and handing in— years. he's finally giving up and handing in the keys. we weneir— and handing in the keys. we weneir new— and handing in the keys. we wonder how many pubs will this nennen— wonder how many pubs will this happen-massive— wonder how many pubs will this happen massive row over happen to a massive row over inwiieiiene— happen to a massive row over inwiieiiene ie— happen to a massive row over invitations to the _ happen to a massive row over invitations to the royal wedding 7 invitations to the royal wedding e kni— invitations to the royal wedding e ann-ne— invitations to the royal wedding ? and-me tonight- invitations to the royal wedding ? and me tonight on ? and joining me tonight on a ieiking— ? and joining me tonight on a ieiking pini— ? and joining me tonight on a talking pint special, the iegeneerw— talking pint special, the legendary frank bruno. but eeiee— legendary frank bruno. but ieiere eii— legendary frank bruno. but before all of— legendary frank bruno. but before all of that, let's get ine— before all of that, let's get rne newe— before all of that, let's get the news with— before all of that, let's get the news with polly middleton .