very good afternoon, everybody. patrick— very good afternoon, everybody. patrick christys_ very good afternoon, everybody. patrick christys here— very good afternoon, everybody. patrick christys here on- very good afternoon, everybody. patrick christys here on gb- very good afternoon, everybody. patrick christys here on gb news with you. three until six. i'm going in with lawless britain. i woke up this morning to several really serious crime stories . really serious crime stories. the police not learning their lessons— the police not learning their lessons from _ the police not learning their lessons from the grinder killer, a murder, another— lessons from the grinder killer, a murder, another suspicious death,— a murder, another suspicious deans—she- a murder, another suspiciousi death,_the loose a murder, another suspicious- death,_the loose with death, and man on the loose with asmwab in— death, and man on the loose with a crowbar in manchester. 500 burglaries— a crowbar in manchester. 500 burglaries-being. burglaries a day not being sowed. — burglaries a day not being solved. what— burglaries a day not being solved. what on- burglaries a day not being solved. �*fw�*fia g" burglaries a day not being solved. g" burglaries a day not being solved. cw“ gc g solved. what on earth is going on in britain? we now on in britain? are we now lawless? other news as well, lawless? in other news as well, though, yes, the bbc boss has decided to quit and i just wonder whether or not now this is a sign for them to purge some of the left wingers as well. is it just bias one way? let me know think about all of know what you think about all of that. other news as well, we that. in other news as well, we were promised a bonfire of eu laws post brexit, weren't we?

we're not it. we're just we're not getting it. we're just getting smouldering getting some kind of smouldering embers, apparently. i'll be telling exactly laws telling you exactly which laws we are not losing and we are and are not losing and whether not really whether or not that really affects you. and finally, i'm sure going to you sure this one's going to get you going. royal popularity going. the royal popularity stakes william and stakes are out and william and kate are right at the top of the list. by and away list. they are by far and away the most popular royals. controversial question this, but get in. should get your views coming in. should king abdicated for king charles have abdicated for william k. william gbviews@gbnews.uk k. good afternoon . it's 3:01. i'm good afternoon. it's 3:01. i'm rhiannon jones in the newsroom richard sharpe has resigned as bbc chairman after a report found he breached the rules for pubuc found he breached the rules for public appointments. the review states he failed to properly disclose his involvement in the facilitation of an £800,000 loan guarantee to boris johnson. mr sharpe says the breach was inadvertent and not material, but added he's quitting to prioritise the interests of the broadcaster. leader of lib dems

, davies called for changes to the process of becoming the bbc chairman. i prefer an independent process and i absolutely believe there should be a hearing to check the appointment sought by the cross—party select committee in the house of commons for culture, media and sport. that's the only way to forward. so that's the only way to forward. so people— that's the only way to forward. so people see— that's the only way to forward. so people can have confidence just— so people can have confidence just allowing— so people can have confidence just allowing it— so people can have confidence just allowing it to— so people can have confidence just allowing it to be the prime mlnlsler— just allowing it to be the prime mlnlsler soy— just allowing it to be the prime minister say so— just allowing it to be the prime minister say so just won't work annoye— minister say so just won't work anymore . prime— minister say so just won't work anymore . 3” ll " minister say so just won't work anymore . 37” ll " $3“ anymore. prime minister rishi sunak says the right process was followed and this is about doing things properly and professionally and when concerns are raised, it's right that there is a proper process , an there is a proper process, an independent process that we don't prejudge. we allow it to sonn— don't prejudge. we allow it to corn on— don't prejudge. we allow it to sonny on one— don't prejudge. we allow it to carry on and establish- zcw�* c 33 we allow it to carry on and establish the facts of carry on and establish the facts on lonel— carry on and establish the facts of what happened, reach a conclusion— of what happened, reach a conclusion that's happened . conclusion that's happened. nonna— conclusion that's happened. richard sharpe— conclusion that's happened. richard sharpe has resigned . but richard sharpe has resigned. but it's richard sharpe has resigned. but n-s nonl— richard sharpe has resigned. but n-s ngnl lnol— richard sharpe has resigned. but it's right that we— richard sharpe has resigned. but it's right that we do these lnlngs— it's right that we do these things properly and professionally. think most professionally. i think most people— professionally. i think most people-mol- professionally. i think most people that that's people will think that that's the people will think that that's lne nonl— people will think that that's the right thing— people will think that that's the right thing to do. 2c the right thing to do. florida governor ron— the right thing to do. florida governor ron desantis has met with foreign secretary james

cleverly in london, a warning. the following contains flashing images . if the following contains flashing images. if you're the following contains flashing images . if you're watching on images. if you're watching on television . the uk visit marks television. the uk visit marks the last leg of the republican governor's international tour aimed at enhancing his foreign policy credentials . yesterday, policy credentials. yesterday, he was in israel. it's expected mr desantis will run for republican nomination in the 2024 presidential election . 70% 2024 presidential election. 70% of people in northern ireland think the good friday agreement hasn't delivered a stable governance. that's according to a poll by westminster's northern ireland affairs committee. it found major changes are needed to restore the power sharing structure as unionists and nationalists can veto policies. they don't agree with, which is exactly what the dup is currently doing over the post—brexit trade deal , currently doing over the post—brexit trade deal, a body has been discovered in the hunt for the partner of a pregnant teacher who was found dead in scotland. police have been looking for 36 year old david yates in connection with the death of morale struck at her

home in glasgow on tuesday. the force says that while the body hasn't yet been formally identified, it's believed to be that of yates in sudan. the ceasefire between the paramilitary rapid support forces and the army has been extended for a further three days. the foreign secretary is calling on the two to fully implement the truce and says evacuation flights are ongoing. british forces have so far rescued almost 900 people from sudan on the government's urging those with british passports and visas to make their way to the airfield as quickly as possible . at least 17 people have been killed as russian airstrikes hit key cities across . ukraine two key cities across. ukraine two children are among those killed and nine people have been taken to hospital. the attacks come as ukraine is set to launch an offensive with new military equipment from western allies. it's not immediately clear what

russia was targeting, but it follows a winter offensive that's made little headway back here. the national education union will hold a fresh ballot of its members in state funded schools in england for further strike action. it's over pay and will open on the 15th of may. closing at the end of july. it follows this morning's announcement that head teachers in england are to hold another vote they'll strike. vote on whether they'll strike. meanwhile, members of the unite union in england have rejected the government's latest pay offer to nhs staff in their long running pay dispute . just over running pay dispute. just over half of its members who took part, mostly ambulance workers and junior health staff voted against a 5% pay increase. unite it says, planned strikes by more than 4000 nhs workers across england will now go ahead next week. an and more than 130,000 civil servants are on strike in an ongoing dispute over pay and conditions. the walkout includes

pubuc conditions. the walkout includes public and commercial services union members in 132 departments. the unions accused the government of waging an ideological war on its own workforce. the has called their demands demands unaffordable . demands demands unaffordable. the prince and princess of wales have paid an emotional visit to a welsh village to remember the victims of the 1966 aberfan disaster . 116 children victims of the 1966 aberfan disaster. 116 children and 28 adults were killed after a colliery spoil tip collapsed onto a school and neighbouring homes . william and kate visited homes. william and kate visited the aberfan mill boreal garden to pay their respects . it's the to pay their respects. it's the first time the royal couple has been to the village . and been to the village. and coronation lessons will be taughtin coronation lessons will be taught in schools to encourage more interest in the british monarchy and king charles's coronation on it comes as a yougov polls revealed just 32% of 18 to 24 year olds support

the continuation of the monarchy. the government says the lessons will be taught across england. it's understood the material for the plans was first to the royal first sent to the royal household being released household before being released to schools . this is gb news. to schools. this is gb news. we'll bring you more as it happens. for now, though, it's back over to . back over to. patrick now, i woke up back over to. patrick. i now, i woke up this back over to. patrick— . now, i woke up this morning - now, i woke up this morning to o poelnesso— . now, i woke up this morning to a procession-terrible— now, i woke up this morning to a procession terrible crime a procession of terrible crime stones— a procession of terrible crime slones one— a procession of terrible crime stones and n— a procession of terrible crime stories and it got— a procession of terrible crime stories and it got me wondering nnelner— stories and it got me wondering nnelnen on— stories and it got me wondering whether or not— stories and it got me wondering whether or not we— stories and it got me wondering whether or not we live in lawless— whether or not we live in lawless britain. gc lg lawless britain. i'm just going to a flavour of some of to give you a flavour of some of them. apparently them. now, police apparently have their lessons have not learned their lessons after the grinder killer went on after the grinder killer went on a spree. so apparently a spree. so that apparently could happening again. could just be happening again. there three people arrested there are three people arrested on suspicion of murder in nuneaton . there's a scottish nuneaton. there's a scottish murder burglary stats are absolutely. you know, there's nearly burglaries day that nearly 500 burglaries a day that go unsolved. supposedly there's a man walking around with a crowbar in the manchester gay

area who is doing rather a lot of damage to people there as well. what on earth is going on? are we living in lawless onlolne— are we living in lawless britain? i'm— are we living in lawless britain? i'm going to talk to a succession of— britain? i'm going to talk to a succession of police officers on lnls— succession of police officers on lnls some— succession of police officers on lnls on— succession of police officers on this, some of our— succession of police officers on this, some of our own reporters as well— this, some of our own reporters os well-course,— this, some of our own reporters as well, course, and also as well, of course, and also some psychologists who drill down— some psychologists who drill down-lnls. — some psychologists who drill down-this. do- some psychologists who drill down this. jc down into this. do you think that really bizarre that something really bizarre is going country where going on in this country where people to be afraid people don't appear to be afraid of law, they just don't care of the law, they just don't care what is happening? are the police up to scratch? - "lg? are the police up to scratch? what is happening? are the police up to scratch? but let's loll— police up to scratch? but let's talk about that shocking report first police and first into the met police and they've been accused of calamitous of failures calamitous litany of failures after serial killer murdered after a serial killer murdered four men. stephen poor met his vlenns— four men. stephen poor met his vlenns on— four men. stephen poor met his victims on dating— 2 stephen poor met his victims on dating sites, lnelnolng— victims on dating sites, including the- victims on dating sites, including the gay dating app ennon— including the gay dating app ennon ene— including the gay dating app grindr. the report says that oespne— grindr. the report says that oesplle sne— grindr. the report says that despite the obvious links between— despite the obvious links between the _ despite the obvious links between the cases, it wasn't unnl— between the cases, it wasn't nnnl lne— between the cases, it wasn't until the fourth— between the cases, it wasn't until the fourth murder victim's body— until the fourth murder victim's nooy nos— until the fourth murder victim's body was found— until the fourth murder victim's body was found that police reollseo— body was found that police realised they— body was found that police realised they could have been lllleo— realised they could have been lllleo ny— realised they could have been killed by-same_ realised they could have been killed by same person and killed by the same person and the killed by the same person and lne pollee— killed by the same person and the police watchdog warns that nlslon— the police watchdog warns that nlslon coulo— the police watchdog warns that history could repeat itself. and— history could repeat itself. and she— history could repeat itself. and no ls— history could repeat itself. and this is really- history could repeat itself. and this is really what- history could repeat itself. and this is really what i want to down into now because to drill down into now because officers aren't properly investigated, unexpected or unexplained deaths, which

essentially reading between the lines that potential lines means that potential serial killers might not be being picked up. and this, i think, should— being picked up. and this, i think, should concern- lg 22 c. and this, i think, should concern everybody. let-s— think, should concern everybody. lel-s speak— think, should concern everybody. let's speak now— think, should concern everybody. let's speak now to— think, should concern everybody. let's speak now to london let's speak now to our london reponer— let's speak now to our london neponer llso— let's speak now to our london reporter lisa hartle, who's at new— reporter lisa hartle, who's at new-veno- - reporter lisa hartle, who's at new-yard. lisa- reporter lisa hartle, who's at new yard. lisa look, new scotland yard. lisa look, snonl— new scotland yard. lisa look, thank—much] new scotland yard. lisa look,| thank—much. so thank you very, very much. so nnol-s—lnls- what's going on with this lesson?— what's going on with this lessons-n- what's going on with this report?-it is- what's going on with this- report?-it is terrifying report? because it is terrifying lnol—noven-l- report? because it is terrifying that haven't learned that the police haven't learned lneln— that the police haven't learned their lessons. _ that the police haven't learned their lessons. it— that the police haven't learned their lessons. it would seem so . th.— their lessons. it would seem so . lne epon— their lessons. it would seem so . lne nepon ls— their lessons. it would seem so . the report is looking- their lessons. it would seem so . the report is looking into how the met carry out the investigation into deaths following the case of serial killer stephen port, who killed four people, four men between 2014 and 2015. the four men were killed by port who drugged them with overdoses of ghb and then dumped their bodies near his flat in east london. and the deaths like you say, weren't seen as suspicious until the very final killing. the report was commissioned by the mayor of london inquest into london after an inquest into their found their deaths found that fundamental failures police fundamental failures by police were likely to have contributed to the of three of the to the deaths of three of the men. the report found that the met had made some improvements since port including since the port case, including better arrangements better working arrangements between officers and between local officers and specialist investigation

specialist murder investigation teams. but inspectors found that some met police officers admit they still rely on luck to identify links between deaths on a local level. the inspection reviewed investigations into 100 deaths and found evidence of things such as poor training, supervision and handling of property and evidence . mr faux property and evidence. mr faux pas said. the force's resources are stretched and there is a young, inexperienced workers force. the report made 20 recommendations, including calling on met officers to use more intelligence information when investigating deaths. now, in response to this, the met assistant commissioner louisa rolfe said the force is sincere in our desire to make real change to minimise the chance of a case like this ever happening again. she added we know we fell short in this case and the families did not get the service they needed or deserved. it's important we look again at this area and see what we need area and see what more we need to support families. we to do to support families. we will consider the will fully consider the recommendations made and ensure these are not just fully addressed but embedded into our working practises. yeah lisa,

thank you very, very much for bringing us that update there. and it is a just a phenomenal kno— and it is a just a phenomenal one of— and it is a just a phenomenal kind of launch— and it is a just a phenomenal kind of launch pad really, i lnlnl— kind of launch pad really, i lnlnl lor— kind of launch pad really, i lnlnl for o— kind of launch pad really, i think for a wide— kind of launch pad really, i think for a wide discussion. l-ve— think for a wide discussion. we gol— think for a wide discussion. we got a— think for a wide discussion. i've got a couple— think for a wide discussion. i've got a couple of- think for a wide discussion. i've got a couple of other stories up here that i want to bnng stories up here that i want to bring to you now. spate of crowbar attacks— bring to you now. spate of crowbar attacks in- lg spate of crowbar attacks in manchester snarled— crowbar attacks in manchester spelled solely— crowbar attacks in manchester sparked safety fears in manchester— sparked safety fears in manchester was gay community. i'm manchester was gay community. l-n —onolner— manchester was gay community. i'm _another one- manchester was gay community. i'm another one here i'm looking at another one here non-donn— i'm looking at another one here now.-don't have— i'm looking at another one here now. don't have search now. you don't have to search ven— now. you don't have to search very-lor— now. you don't have to search very-nor meso- now. you don't have to search very-for these, by- now. you don't have to search very for these, by way. very hard for these, by the way. t hey— very hard for these, by the way. lney-lnlo — very hard for these, by the way. lney-lnlo-lon. i very hard for these, by the way. lney-lnlo-lon. l they just fall into your lap. almost— they just fall into your lap. almost soo— they just fall into your lap. almost 600 burglaries- they just fall into your lap. almost 600 burglaries per day. i said before being said 500 before not being solved. did that down almost solved. i did that down almost 600 burglaries per day. not being solved there,- 600 burglaries per day. not being solved there, of- mm 3 25; not being solved there, of course, as being solved there, of course, os-lnnee— being solved there, of course, as - three teenagers i being solved there, of course,l as-three teenagers held being solved there, of course,- as-three teenagers held on as well. three teenagers held on suspicion murder after a man suspicion of murder after a man dies a park attack. and again dies in a park attack. and again as well, dies in a park attack. and again as well some— dies in a park attack. and again as well, some very— 2 c 2 and again as well, some very concerning eases—seollono| cases coming out of scotland loony,— cases coming out of scotland lodeo-nlll- cases coming out of scotland lodeo-nlll ne- cases coming out of scotland today, will be bringing today, which we will be bringing you—i- today, which we will be bringing yon—l just- you later on as well. i just nonse— you later on as well. i just wonder what on earth is really going on? is this as simple as the police aren't identifying serial killers, other killers aren't solving basic burglary crimes, etcetera ? is there crimes, etcetera? is there sonelnlng— c." 2“ is there something psychological going on ne— something psychological going on we neon— something psychological going on now? we hear a— something psychological going on now? we hear a lot,— something psychological going on now? 2cw“ c something psychological going on now? 2 c c now? we hear a lot, don't we, about younger people, especially being ready and willing to just

carry knives and stab people to death over. absolutely nothing? but in the wake of all of these terrible crimes that i've laid out earlier, which i think would lead people to forgiven for lead people to be forgiven for thinking we are potentially thinking that we are potentially hurtling britain hurtling towards lawless britain . iwant hurtling towards lawless britain . i want to ask today, are the nonse— . i want to ask today, are the police-control?- . i want to ask today, are the police-control? i'm- police losing control? i'm joined— police losing control? i'm joined no— police losing control? i'm joined now by— police losing control? i'm joined now by perry benson. nes— joined now by perry benson. he'slformer_ joined now by perry benson. he'slformer detective- joined now by perry benson. he's a former detective chief inspector at the met police. perry, look, thank you very noon. — perry, look, thank you very noon. -l'm- perry, look, thank you very much. -i'm a- perry, look, thank you very much. perry, look, thank you very- much. -i'm a massive, massive much. and i'm a massive, massive supporter police. they much. and i'm a massive, massive supp

me— upon the port thing. i was on the homicide— upon the port thing. i was on the homicide command for over 17 years— the homicide command for over 17 years one— the homicide command for over 17 years and whilst— the homicide command for over 17 years and whilst the— the homicide command for over 17 years and whilst the port case is years and whilst the port case ls negle— years and whilst the port case ls noon one— years and whilst the port case is tragic and it— years and whilst the port case is tragic and it is,— years and whilst the port case is tragic and it is, you know, sne— is tragic and it is, you know, lne pollee— is tragic and it is, you know, the police have— is tragic and it is, you know, the police have made serious folllngs— the police have made serious nolllngs one— the police have made serious failings and actually investigated . and homicide is investigated. and homicide is on— investigated. and homicide is of ne— investigated. and homicide is one of the best— investigated. and homicide is one of the best things that the ne— one of the best things that the one does. — one of the best things that the one does. vol— one of the best things that the met does. you look at the oeleenon— met does. you look at the detection rate _ met does. you look at the detection rate for homicides, you— detection rate for homicides, you look— detection rate for homicides, you look ol— detection rate for homicides, you look at the— detection rate for homicides, you look at the conviction rate for homicides— you look at the conviction rate for homicides and— you look at the conviction rate for homicides and the met is one of for homicides and the met is one on me— for homicides and the met is one on lne none-s— for homicides and the met is one of the world's leaders in nonleloe— of the world's leaders in homicide investigations. so homicide investigations. and so i homicide investigations. and so l-enon— homicide investigations. and so l-repon ls— homicide investigations. and so i-report is whilst- i think this report is whilst lne— i think this report is whilst the recommendations are going to be taken— the recommendations are going to be taken by— the recommendations are going to be taken by sne— the recommendations are going to be taken by the met and they nlll— be taken by the met and they nlll look— be taken by the met and they nlll lool ol— be taken by the met and they will look at it,— be taken by the met and they will look at it, they have made lots— will look at it, they have made lots on— will look at it, they have made lots of changes— will look at it, they have made lots of changes since the port lnonlny— lots of changes since the port lnonlny .— lots of changes since the port lnonlny . so— lots of changes since the port lnonlny . so for— lots of changes since the port inquiry . so for example, they've inquiry. so for example, they've gone— inquiry. so for example, they've gone from — inquiry. so for example, they've gone from using— inquiry. so for example, they've gone from using the phrase nneoplolneo— gone from using the phrase unexplained death either unexplained death to either expected— unexplained death to either expected or— unexplained death to either expected or unexpected death. toll— expected or unexpected death. ton tnot— expected or unexpected death. ton tnot puts— expected or unexpected death. now that puts more pressure and on ones— now that puts more pressure and onus on other people to review the onus on other people to review tne onene— onus on other people to review the crime scene— onus on other people to review the crime scene and if it's unexpected— the crime scene and if it's nneopeeteo ,_ the crime scene and if it's unexpected , need to make further unexpected, need to make further lnpnlnes— unexpected, need to make further lnpnlnes . — unexpected, need to make further lnpnlnes. so— unexpected, need to make further inquiries. so this— unexpected, need to make further inquiries . inquiries. so this report basically says that the police are still relying on luck to catch serial killers and other murderers. you're shaking your neat— murderers. you're shaking your need mere.— murderers. you're shaking your head there. go— murderers. you're shaking your head there. go on.— 2 you're shaking your head there. go on. why / head there. go on. why yeah, i completely— head there. go on. why yeah, i completely disagree. like i say,

the met police homicide command is of the world's best is one of the world's best homicide commands anywhere in the world. the officers are dedicated. they use all the tactics and the tools that tactics and all the tools that they need to investigate murders, which why they are murders, which is why they are so successful. there is so successful. i think there is more that needs to be done with training in basic training for new officers that are joining the police and certainly when they're any scene of they're attending any scene of an they should be an incident, they should be calling for supervisory support. they then should recalling the homicide command, who are more than willing to attend to any incident which they do regularly. so many regularly. there's so many incidents that the homicide command attend which are never reported to the to the media. and as i say, the homicide teams are led by a serious senior investigating officers like i was. they use every tool and was. and they use every tool and tactic to investigate murders. so i think there's lessons to be learnt, but there's so much good that the met police and the homicide command i've homicide command do. yeah. i've got to you, homicide command do. yeah. i've got to-yon tnongn— homicide command do. yeah. i've got to-you, though, about- got to ask you, though, about tnose— got to ask you, though, about those - recruits— got to ask you, though, about those recruits that were those new recruits that you were soylng. — those new recruits that you were soylng. -lool,— those new recruits that you were soylng-loon l- those new recruits that you were saying.-look, i take- those new recruits that you were saying. look, i take no saying. i mean, look, i take no pleasure— saying. i mean, look, i take no pleasure tn— saying. i mean, look, i take no pleasure in sometimes reporting

the pleasure in sometimes reporting tne noe— pleasure in sometimes reporting the more salacious_ pleasure in sometimes reporting the more salacious elements of ms— the more salacious elements of this,-individual- this, like an individual who had a-tnerapy— this, like an individual who had a-tnerapy slag— a pet therapy slug that apparently— a pet therapy slug that apparently wanted to take apparently they wanted to take nltn — apparently they wanted to take nltn -pollee - with them to a police recruitment- with them to a police recruitment whose recruitment calls, someone whose oallea — recruitment calls, someone whose called-ana— recruitment calls, someone whose mum called and said, oh, you mum called up and said, oh, you know— mum called up and said, oh, you know ,— mum called up and said, oh, you know , yore— mum called up and said, oh, you know , you're being— mum called up and said, oh, you know , you're being too harsh on know, you're being too harsh on tnen. — know, you're being too harsh on tnen. ana— know, you're being too harsh on tnen. ana l— know, you're being too harsh on them. and i know— know, you're being too harsh on them. and i know those are the absolute—ana- them. and i know those are thei absolute _and you absolute horror stories. and you would— absolute horror stories. and you would-nost— absolute horror stories. and you would-mostlthosel would hope that most of those people— would hope that most of those people-actually- would hope that most of those people actually their people never actually find their way— people never actually find their nay-teat— people never actually find their nay-teat or— people never actually find their way - beat or they - way onto the beat or they possltly— way onto the beat or they possltly-tne- way onto the beat or they possibly the therapy they possibly get the therapy they need, — possibly get the therapy they need, actually.— possibly get the therapy they need, actually. our new need, actually. but our our new resralts — need, actually. but our our new resrults -gool— need, actually. but our our new recruits,-good ? - need, actually. but our our new recruits,-good ? i- need, actually. but our our new recruits, good ? recruits, any good? i think i tnlnl— recruits, any good? i think i think they but obviously, think they are. but obviously, one things that certainly one of the things that certainly changed in met police over changed in the met police over the last 10 years is the the last 10 or 15 years is the disbanding the hendon disbanding of the hendon training college. now, when i joined the hendon joined the police hendon training as one training college was seen as one of world's best training of the world's best training colleges whole colleges throughout the whole world. and, you know, you had to do a residential where do a residential course where you were discipline. you you were taught discipline. you were law, were were taught the law, you were taught values of taught about all the values of the that has been the policing that has been eroded the because of eroded over the years because of all the cutbacks by governments and police have had sell and the police have had to sell off police stations. had off police stations. they've had to training to sell off the hendon training college. they've had to be innovative in the way they teach new recruits. think a lot new recruits. but i think a lot of is lost. then on the new of that is lost. then on the new recruits. they don't understand

sort the values, and it's sort of the values, and it's harder of teach the harder to sort of teach the discipline as it used be discipline as it used to be previously in my experience. and so to support so i think we do need to support the officers . but the the younger officers. but the biggest problem, say, is biggest problem, like i say, is there are many officers now there are so many officers now disillusioned with policing because of all the public outcries, of is outcries, which some of it is justifiable. of it i think justifiable. some of it i think is maybe bit too strong is maybe a bit too strong because day in, day out, officers go to work putting their lives on the line and every day officers are doing so much good. but media, the public, they only hear about the problems like you talk about the burglary rates and things like that. because there's that. that is because there's just enough officers to go just not enough officers to go round. well, that is kind of lunar— round. well, that is kind of lunar l— round. well, that is kind of what i want. _ well, that is kind of what i want. "rcc; 2 well, that is kind of what i want. ”rcc; 2 well, that is kind of what i want. there's just not enough to go round. enough officers to go round. yeah, and it's fine line this yeah, and it's a fine line this for yeah, and it's a fine line this tor ne— yeah, and it's a fine line this for me because— yeah, and it's a fine line this for me because obviously, like i sala— for me because obviously, like i salt, l— for me because obviously, like i salt, l was— for me because obviously, like i said, i was just— for me because obviously, like i said, i was just shocked today by said, i was just shocked today lay-volume- said, i was just shocked today| by _volumelpretty by the sheer volume of pretty norrltls— by the sheer volume of pretty horrific crime _ by the sheer volume of pretty horrific crime stories that tnere— horrific crime stories that tnere-out— horrific crime stories that there out there. ' 2 there were out there. and this is there were out there. and this ls uny— there were out there. and this ls nny tn— there were out there. and this is why i'm this thing. is why i'm doing this thing. but at the same time, i absolutely— but at the same time, i absolutely hate the idea that you— absolutely hate the idea that you-a— absolutely hate the idea that you-a lot— absolutely hate the idea that you-a lot or— absolutely hate the idea that you a lot of politicians you get a lot of politicians stanllng— you get a lot of politiciansi standing—the you get a lot of politicians- standing_the met standing up and saying the met is standing up and saying the met ls—raslst.- standing up and saying the met ls—raslst. lt-s- is institutionally racist. it's all horrible.— is institutionally racist. it's all horrible. it's— is institutionally racist. it's all horrible. it's full of these

nasty— all horrible. it's full of these nasty people— all horrible. it's full of these nasty people and everything. and tnen—noulli then you think, well, why would ayone— then you think, well, why would anyone—tne- then you think, well, why would anyone _the met? . then you think, well, why would. anyone _the met? why anyone want to join the met? why would— anyone want to join the met? why would-n— anyone want to join the met? why noull-ln tne— anyone want to join the met? why would-in the police- anyone want to join the met? why would in the police force would anyone in the police force astually—telngi actually feel comfortable being in actually feel comfortable being ln—tney- actually feel comfortable being ln—tney havel actually feel comfortable beingi ln—tney nave a in there? you know, they have a tougn— in there? you know, they have a tougn-tlne— in there? you know, they have a tougn-tlnellt- in there? you know, they have a tough-timeiit is- in there? you know, they have a tough time it is just tough enough time as it is just tough enough time as it is just to-to— tough enough time as it is just to-to something- tough enough time as it is just to to something you said to allude to something you said tnere—ott- to allude to something you said there—off police. there about selling off police statlons. — there about selling off police stations. there's— there about selling off police stations. there's a story that soneslnlnl.— stations. there's a story that comes mind. million comes to mind. £1 million sannatls— comes to mind. £1 million cannabis the cannabis farm was found in the old llsusel— cannabis farm was found in the old disused stratton police statlon— old disused stratton police. station,_sums station, which possibly sums up the station, which possibly sums up tne-leane— station, which possibly sums up the decline, maybe the visible decline, maybe mere,— the visible decline, maybe there—ell the visible decline, maybe- there,_of police there, you could say, of police tunllng. —lust- there, you could say, of police funding. _just talki there, you could say, of police. funding. _just talk to funding. but let me just talk to you about— funding. but let me just talk to you about those _ funding. but let me just talk to you about those burglaries. so almost— you about those burglaries. so almost see— you about those burglaries. so almost 600 burglaries per day went—year. - almost 600 burglaries per day went—year. andl went unsolved last year. and vlolent— went unsolved last year. and violent-soaring- went unsolved last year. and violent soaring as violent crime is soaring as well— violent crime is soaring as well-into— violent crime is soaring as well l77% ot— violent crime is soaring as- well..77% of-apparently well. so 77% of cases apparently slosel— well. so 77% of cases apparently were closed-police- well. so 77% of cases apparently were closed police in england were closed by police in england and wales— were closed by police in england and wales with— were closed by police in england and wales with no— were closed by police in england and wales with no suspects llentltlel. — and wales with no suspects identified. now,— and wales with no suspects identified. now, if i was a burglar— identified. now, if i was a burglar ,_ identified. now, if i was a burglar, l— identified. now, if i was a burglar , i would fancy my burglar, i would fancy my chances. and— burglar, i would fancy my chances. and that's a problem, lsn-t— chances. and that's a problem, lsn-t lt— chances. and that's a problem, lsn-t lt e — chances. and that's a problem, nut to us— chances. and that's a problem, isn't it 7 it's a— chances. and that's a problem, isn't it ? it's a huge- chances. and that's a problem, isn't it ? c 3c isn't it? it's a huge problem. and but it goes back to the resources because obviously, you know, the country has grown in terms of, you know, the population and policing numbers have shrunk. so whilst the government said they were going to increase, recruit 20,000 new officers, the fact is they've lost a lot of experience. officers so they've literally counted other . and like officers so they've literally c saided other. and like officers so they've literally

c said earlier, other. and like officers so they've literally c said earlier, there's er. and like officers so they've literally c said earlier, there's not and like i said earlier, there's not enough officers go round, you enough officers to go round, you know, work with the local know, to work with the local communities want provide communities. we want to provide that want to solve that support. we want to solve all crimes. but there is all the crimes. but there is just not enough police officers. there's not enough police stations. areas have all stations. the areas have all been together aukus been merged together into aukus command units and so there is just not enough officers to go around. so it is tragic that society and if you were a victim of crime in this current day and age, that you are going to likely get a poor service unless it's something serious. likely get a poor service unless it's something serious . and but it's something serious. and but that's just the reality. and it really just, as i say, keeps coming back to the government cutbacks. and, you i don't cutbacks. and, you know, i don't want get too political, but want to get too political, but with all the government cutbacks , look at the , you know, you look at the salary they pay police salary that they pay police officers, they officers, you know, if they increase the that would increase the salary, that would attract officers. they're increase the salary, that would attracta officers. they're increase the salary, that would attracta lot officers. they're increase the salary, that would attracta lot of fficers. they're increase the salary, that would attracta lot of work;. they're increase the salary, that would attracta lot of work to “hey're increase the salary, that would attracta lot of work to recruit doing a lot of work to recruit from universities. and that is a really good recruit. really good place to recruit. but that's not answer. you but that's not the answer. you know, used be able to be know, you used to be able to be join police with common join the police with common sense and that is of been sense and that is kind of been lost. think, over the years. lost. i think, over the years. yeah, i completely get that. absolutely. — yeah, i completely get that. absolutely. and _ yeah, i completely get that. absolutely. and all this talk of

sulle— absolutely. and all this talk of stale—ana- absolutely. and all this talk of strike_and.of| strike armageddon and all of tnls— strike armageddon and all of tnls-tnlnl— strike armageddon and all of this-think one- strike armageddon and all of this think one group of this stuff, i think one group of people— this stuff, i think one group of people-would- this stuff, i think one group of people-would be- this stuff, i think one group of people would be square people who i would be square rally— people who i would be square rally tenlnl— people who i would be square rally behind getting a whopping people who i would be square rally ipaynd getting a whopping people who i would be square rally ipay riseetting a whopping people who i would be square rally ipay rise woulda whopping people who i would be square rally ipay rise would be hopping people who i would be square rally ipay rise would be ourping great pay rise would be our pollse— great pay rise would be our pollse-nut— great pay rise would be our police-but can- great pay rise would be our police-but can i- great pay rise would be our police but can i just ask police force. but can i just ask you—tall- police force. but can i just ask you—tall to- police force. but can i just ask you—tall to a- you i'm going to talk to a psychologist— you i'm going to talk to a psychologist a— you i'm going to talk to a psychologist a bit later on, a srlnlnal— psychologist a bit later on, a criminal psychologist. and do you— criminal psychologist. and do you tnlnl— criminal psychologist. and do you think though part you think as though part of the problem — you think as though part of the problem lactually_ problem is actually the upbringing_ problem is actually the upbringing of some that are upbringing of some kids that are tallng— upbringing of some kids that are tallng-rlgnt— upbringing of some kids that are taking-right now,- upbringing of some kids that are taking right now, people taking place right now, people ualllng— taking place right now, people ualllng-nltn- taking place right now, people walking with knives, walking around with knives, glanorlslng— walking around with knives, glamorising some kind of gangster— glamorising some kind of gangster lifestyle, stabbing easn— gangster lifestyle, stabbing easn otner— gangster lifestyle, stabbing each other to— gangster lifestyle, stabbing each other to death over £10 of need— each other to death over £10 of need or— each other to death over £10 of weed or something like that ? i weed or something like that? i mean-lt— weed or something like that? i mean,-if we're- weed or something like that? i mean, if we're being mean, actually, if we're being nonest— mean, actually, if we're being nonest ,— mean, actually, if we're being nonest , ls— mean, actually, if we're being honest, is the— mean, actually, if we're being honest, is the upbringing of nas— honest, is the upbringing of nos-worse- honest, is the upbringing of kids-worse-is. honest, is the upbringing of. kids _worse-is that kids getting worse and is that navlng—srlnel kids getting worse and is that. having—crime stats having an impact on crime stats 7 having an impact on crime stats e lean— having an impact on crime stats e lean l— having an impact on crime stats ? imean, i think— having an impact on crime stats ? imean, i think it's- having an impact on crime stats ? imean, i think it's a- having an impact on crime stats 7 ? i mean, i think it's a very complex question. i think certainly complex question. i think senalnly ln— complex question. i think certainly in my— ccw“ 2 cw“ i think certainly in my experience cc“ 2 cw“ i think certainly in my experience , it certainly in my experience, it is certainly in my experience, it ls tragls— certainly in my experience, it ls tragls tnat— certainly in my experience, it is tragic that young people nowadays— is tragic that young people nowadays feel— is tragic that young people nowadays feel that they have to say— nowadays feel that they have to say lnlves— nowadays feel that they have to say lnlves to— nowadays feel that they have to carry knives to protect themselves.- carry knives to protect themselves. and certainly from my epenense— themselves. and certainly from my experience working on nonlslles— my experience working on homicides and— my experience working on homicides and the murders i homicides and the murders that i stealt— homicides and the murders that i dealt-people— homicides and the murders that i dealt people would say that dealt with people would say that tney— dealt with people would say that they—themselves. they carried a knife themselves tesause— they carried a knife themselves because-didn't- they carried a knife themselves because didn't carry because if they didn't carry a lute,— because if they didn't carry a lnlte, tne— because if they didn't carry a knife, the next— because if they didn't carry a knife, the next would knife, the next person would say— knife, the next person would sarryllnlte— knife, the next person would carry l knife and _ knife, the next person would carry knife and they felt they carry a knife and they felt they nat— carry a knife and they felt they last to— carry a knife and they felt they had to protect— carry a knife and they felt they had to protect themselves. i do tnlnl— had to protect themselves. i do tnlnl lt— had to protect themselves. i do tnlnl lt ls— had to protect themselves. i do tnlnl lt ls a— had to protect themselves. i do think it is a generational protlen. — think it is a generational problem. _for- think it is a generational- problem. _for- next problem. i think for the next tne,— problem. i think for the next five, ten— problem. i think for the next five, ten,.years,- problem. i think for the next five, ten,.years, i- problem. i think for the next five, ten, years, i think it

five, ten, 15 years, i think it nlll— five, ten, 15 years, i think it nlll protatly— five, ten, 15 years, i think it will probably worse before will probably get worse before it will probably get worse before lt—tnat-s- will probably get worse beforei it _that's where it gets better. but that's where we it gets better. but that's where neuor-l— it gets better. but that's where ne-norl-tne- we need to work with the communities— we need to work with the communities we need the support of communities we need the support ot—ue— communities we need the support ot—ue neel- communities we need the support ot—ue need to- communities we need the support of_we need to stop. of everyone. so we need to stop srltlslslng— of everyone. so we need to stop criticising the _ of everyone. so we need to stop criticising the police whilst assept— criticising the police whilst accept there's— criticising the police whilst accept there's failings. accept there's been failings. i expest— accept there's been failings. i expest-teen- accept there's been failings. i expect-been bad- accept there's been failings. i expect been bad officers expect there's been bad officers unlsn—ls- which the commissioner is now tastllng— which the commissioner is now tackling—need- tackling. i think we need eyerytoly— tackling. i think we need eyerytolylget- tackling. i think we need everybody get together, work everybody to get together, work togetner—glotali together because it is a global problem — together because it is a global problem ,— together because it is a global problem , lt-s— together because it is a global problem , it's a— together because it is a global problem , it's a national problem, it's a national problem.— problem, it's a national problem. it's- problem, it's a national problem. it's not just a pollslng— problem. it's not just a policing-it's. problem. it's not just ai policing-it's a problem. it's not just a- policing-it's a society policing problem, it's a society protlen— policing problem, it's a society protlen .— policing problem, it's a society protlen . l— policing problem, it's a society problem . i think— policing problem, it's a society problem . i think we need, you problem. i think we need, you knoll— problem. i think we need, you knoll-tall- problem. i think we need, you know,-talk about- problem. i think we need, you know, talk about the know, when we talk about the mental—tnei mental health services or the soslal— mental health services or the social-services,- mental health services or the social services, all of social care services, all of nose— social care services, all of those-eroded- social care services, all of those-eroded ,- social care services, all of those eroded , which social care services, all of- those-eroded , which then those being eroded, which then puts— those being eroded, which then puts-pressure— those being eroded, which then puts-pressure.the- those being eroded, which then puts pressure the police puts more pressure on the police ottlsers— puts more pressure on the police officers—other- puts more pressure on the police officers—other roles,l officers to perform other roles, unlsn—tne- officers to perform other roles, which _the dixon i which historically the dixon of post— which historically the dixon of dock—wouldn't. which historically the dixon of dock had wouldn't which historically the dixon of dock had to wouldn't which historically the dixon of dock had to perform. ouldn't which historically the dixon of dock had to perform. but n't which historically the dixon of dock had to perform. but now have had to perform. but now pollse— have had to perform. but now police officers— have had to perform. but now police officers meant to be police officers are meant to be everytnlng— police officers are meant to be everything-meant- police officers are meant to be everything meant to be. everything they're meant to be. care— everything they're meant to be. sare worersl— everything they're meant to be. care workers, social as care workers, social workers, as well— care workers, social workers, as wellltrylng— care workers, social workers, as wellltrylng to— care workers, social workers, as well trying to uphold the well as trying to uphold the law. — well as trying to uphold the law. -lt-s— well as trying to uphold the law. -lt-s lust— law. and it's just not achievable. - law. and it's just not- achievable. - really achievable. look, i really appreslate— achievable. look, i really appreciate you- achievable. look, i really appreciate you coming and appreciate you coming on and telng—anl- appreciate you coming on and being-and honest. being so upfront and honest about—well. i being so upfront and honest. about—well. and being so upfront and honest- about_well. and i about all of this as well. and i nope— about all of this as well. and i hope people— about all of this as well. and i hope people found that enlightening. thank enlightening. perry, thank you very, much. perry benson very, very much. perry benson rnere— very, very much. perry benson rnere ls— very, very much. perry benson rnere ls a— very, very much. perry benson there is a former— c; c”; “c“ perry benson there is a former detective snlet— there is a former detective chief inspector— there is a former detective chief inspector at met chief inspector at the met rollse— chief inspector at the met police - now. - chief inspector at the met- police - now. - loads chief inspector at the met- police-now. _loads of police right now. look, loads of you been getting in touch you have been getting in touch on also i'm going to on that. but also i'm going to throw now something i'm throw ahead now to something i'm going covering later in

going to be covering later on in this show. it's this show. look, it's a controversial topic, but i'm going to do it. and it in going to do it. and it is in relation new popularity relation to the new popularity polls have come out, which polls that have come out, which show family that show about the royal family that william kate are far the william and kate are by far the most popular, much more popular than charles and camilla. and i just it out just wanted to throw it out there do you think that there to you. do you think that snarles— there to you. do you think that charles should— there to you. do you think that charles should have— ”rcc; do you think that charles should have abdicated ana— charles should have abdicated anl tnrown— charles should have abdicated and thrown it— charles should have abdicated and thrown it over to william ana— and thrown it over to william and katee — and thrown it over to william and kate? -we- and thrown it over to william and kate? c: and thrown it over to william - and kate? -we could have had and kate? and we could have had and kate? and we could have had a royal dynasty of more a longer royal dynasty of more popular not? i know popular royals or not? i know there be strong there are going to be strong views this. views on this. vaiews@gbnews.uk. indeed vaiews@gbnews.uk. and indeed there to go there are. i'm just going to go a couple of ones quickly. david says, should go. says, yes, charles should go. he's made a big miscalculation numerous in life. numerous times in his life. he's not of camilla. not a fan of camilla. i'm paraphrasing there to say the least. however, also so graham says, royalist. says, look, i'm not a royalist. i've been an avid supporter of king charles, but recent king charles, but in recent times, gone times, he appears to have gone off him a little bit. but then there's a lot of people here, mary, for example, saying, patrick, i'm disappointed. it's kathleen. sorry, kathleen, i'm disappointed you disappointed. patrick, that you should attempt to should at this time attempt to undermine due process of the undermine the due process of the coronation king. that, of coronation of king. and that, of course, the argument against course, is the argument against it, it, that actually king

it, isn't it, that actually king charles process and charles is due process and potentially you just quite charles is due process and pote him .ly you just quite charles is due process and potehim as you just quite charles is due process and potehim as a you just quite charles is due process and potehim as a person u just quite charles is due process and potehim as a person asust quite charles is due process and potehim as a person as well.iite like him as a person as well. but be having that but we'll be having that discussion these new discussion because these new popularity polls have just dropped gbviews@gbnews.uk but yes, yesterday i talked about civil servants trying to get steve barclay sack . today steve barclay the sack. today they're strike. i'm patrick they're on strike. i'm patrick christys on gb news britain's news

radio. us afternoon, all. now what do you make — us afternoon, all. now what do you male or— us afternoon, all. now what do you make of this?— us afternoon, all. now what do you make of this? a— now what do you make of this? a union boss nas— you make of this? a union boss nas assusel— you make of this? a union boss has accused government ministers of waglng— has accused government ministers or waglng an— has accused government ministers of waging an ideological war on all— of waging an ideological war on civil servants. _ of waging an ideological war on civil servants. so— of waging an ideological war on civil servants. so there's a bit of civil servants. so there's a bit or last— civil servants. so there's a bit or last ana— civil servants. so there's a bit of back and forth— civil servants. so there's a bit of back and forth going on here. lsn-t— of back and forth going on here. lsn-t tneree— of back and forth going on here. isn't there? more— of back and forth going on here. isn't there? more than 130,000 ottlslals— isn't there? more than 130,000 officials have— isn't there? more than 130,000 officials have gone on strike today— officials have gone on strike today as— officials have gone on strike today as part— officials have gone on strike today as part of— officials have gone on strike today as part of a long running llspute— today as part of a long running llspute over— today as part of a long running llspute pay— today as part of a long running dispute over pay jobs and conditions. _ dispute over pay jobs and conditions. and mark serwotka , conditions. and mark serwotka, wno-s— conditions. and mark serwotka, wno-s tne— conditions. and mark serwotka, who's the general— conditions. and mark serwotka, who's the general secretary of the who's the general secretary of tne rutlls— who's the general secretary of the public and— who's the general secretary of the public and commercial sewlses— the public and commercial services union— the public and commercial services union ,- the public and commercial services union , says the services union, says the government— services union, says the government is- services union, says the government is launching lnsessnt— government is launching incessant attacks on its own worltorse— incessant attacks on its own worltorse .— incessant attacks on its own workforce . let's— incessant attacks on its own workforce . let's speak now to workforce. let's speak now to natlonal— workforce. let's speak now to our national reporter, paul nawllns— our national reporter, paul hawkins, who's— our national reporter, paul hawkins, who's in westminster

for hawkins, who's in westminster tor — hawkins, who's in westminster tor paul— hawkins, who's in westminster for us. paul, what— hawkins, who's in westminster for us. paul, what is going on neree— for us. paul, what is going on here? because— for us. paul, what is going on here? because the government nlnlsters— here? because the government ministers, some— here? because the government ministers, some them are ministers, some of them are saylng— ministers, some of them are saylng anat— ministers, some of them are saying that-civil- ministers, some of them are saying that civil service saying that the civil service nas—ty- has been infiltrated by activists— has been infiltrated by activists who - has been infiltrated by activists who are trying to trlng — activists who are trying to trlng tnen — activists who are trying to bring them down. the civil senlse— bring them down. the civil service-saying- bring them down. the civil service saying the service is saying that the government— service is saying that the| government-an government is waging an ideological— ideological war. what's happening— ideological war. what's happening erg both are true at happening? erg both are true at the happening? erg both are true at tne sane— happening? erg both are true at tne tne,— happening? erg both are true at the same time, it— happening? erg both are true at the same time, it appears. natlon— the same time, it appears. ratrlsl. ln— the same time, it appears. patrick, i'm standing- the same time, it appears. patrick, i'm standing in- the same time, it appears. patrick, i'm standing in front of the ministry of defence building, not for some random reason, but because earlier today there was a big rally here here to mark this pretty significant strike, frankly, from , 130,000. from civil servants, 130,000. that's roughly 1 in 4 full- c. . c 250 000 that's roughly 1 in 4 full time slot— that's roughly 1 in 4 full time civil servants— that's roughly 1 in 4 full time civil servants that— that's roughly 1 in 4 full time civil servants that are going on sulle— civil servants that are going on strlle tolay. — civil servants that are going on strike today. there- civil servants that are going on strike today. "rcc; lg strike today. there was a big rally right where i'm standing here, big platform, quite a few speeches knocking number 10 and number 11, which are just over the road behind our camera position. the reason they're on strlle— position. the reason they're on strlle ls— position. the reason they're on strlle ls lot— position. the reason they're on strlle ls job pay,— c cw“ the reason they're on strike is job pay, pensions , strike is job pay, pensions, relunlansy— strike is job pay, pensions, redundancy terms as well. that's ot— redundancy terms as well. that's ot tne— redundancy terms as well. that's ot tne tlg— redundancy terms as well. that's one of the big factors . now, the one of the big factors. now, the government— one of the big factors. now, the government initially offered 2 to slo— government initially offered 2 to on pay— government initially offered 2 to 3% pay increase . the unions to 3% pay increase. the unions stlsllng— to 3% pay increase. the unions were sticking with— to 3% pay increase. the unions were sticking with the union. we snoull— were sticking with the union. we snoull say— were sticking with the union. we

snoull say tne— were sticking with the union. we should say the public commercial senlses— should say the public commercial services union— should say the public commercial services union are— should say the public commercial services union are sticking to ten— services union are sticking to ten ana— services union are sticking to ten and tne— services union are sticking to ten and the government improved that ten and the government improved tnat otter— ten and the government improved tnat otter to — ten and the government improved that offer to 4.5. _ ten and the government improved that offer to 4.5. 5%_ ten and the government improved that offer to 4.5. 5% for the very— that offer to 4.5. 5% for the very lowest— that offer to 4.5. 5% for the very lowest paid- that offer to 4.5. 5% for the very lowest paid civil servants. nut— very lowest paid civil servants. nut tne— very lowest paid civil servants. but the rejected— very lowest paid civil servants. but the rejected that offer . the but the rejected that offer. the government— but the rejected that offer. the government says— but the rejected that offer. the government says it can't afford ally— government says it can't afford any noe— government says it can't afford any tnan— government says it can't afford any more than that. and this is wnat— any more than that. and this is wnat tne— any more than that. and this is what the union _ any more than that. and this is what the union had to say about war.— what the union had to say about was we— what the union had to say about was we lust— what the union had to say about that. we just don't— what the union had to say about that. we just don't buy that. i tnls— that. we just don't buy that. i tnls ls— that. we just don't buy that. i mean, this is the— that. we just don't buy that. i mean, this is the government who has written off billions of pounds of public funds for undelivered contracts during the pandemic, to us and pandemic, who seems to us and our union and members more our union and our members more importantly, on importantly, it depends on who you are whether or not the you are as to whether or not the government can help out . government can help you out. everyone knows if the everyone knows that if the government actually was serious about the entire public about helping the entire public sector, our members, sector, not just our members, but other public sector workers as afford as well, they could afford to give a pay it give them a 10% pay rise. it would a in ocean for would be a drop in the ocean for the budget and economy the overall budget and economy of country. and more of this country. and more importantly, it would help build the back up this the economy back up in this country. instead of the government's- c.rcr. instead of the government's priorities are totally— government's priorities are totally-. - government's priorities are totally-. .sol government's priorities are. totally-. .so we totally different. and so we ton-t— totally different. and so we don't accept it's not don't accept that it's not affordable. so don't accept that it's not affordable . so pretty affordable. so pretty significant- 2 so pretty significant strike by civil servants— significant strike by civil servants today . 2c servants today. people are really going to feel this over

the next month because you've got the department of work and pensions, huge government department, of their department, a lot of their personnel will be going on strike next month. strike over the next month. you've the care quality you've then got the care quality commission passport commission, the passport office as and then hmrc. so lots as well. and then hmrc. so lots of big government departments sort of from facing government departments . a lot of people departments. a lot of people that deal with the public. you know, when you want to phone up, get your tax code, etcetera, from hmrc, that's kind people from hmrc, that's kind of people will strike over the will be going on strike over the next month. and just before i go, patrick, as well, the new the national union, the national education union, they've announced this afternoon, they're going to ballot members strike ballot their members on strike action. the action. so they're joining the national association of headteachers of course, headteachers teachers of course, going on strike on tuesday , then going on strike on tuesday, then ballot their members from july from mid—may to the end of july for more industrial action. and significantly, in terms of the nhs, unite have rejected the government's pay offer. this afternoon unison accepted it . afternoon unison accepted it. they're the nhs biggest union, but unite have rejected it this afternoon . the royal college of afternoon. the royal college of midwifery, the chartered society of accepted the

of physiotherapy, accepted the pay , of physiotherapy, accepted the pay , but unite have pay deal, but unite have rejected around about 4:00 rejected it around about 4:00 we'll whether gmb there we'll find out whether gmb there are another big union within the nhs , whether voted to nhs, whether they've voted to accept reject the accept or reject the government's pay offer . government's latest pay offer. absolutely. paul, thank you very.— absolutely. paul, thank you very-nun— absolutely. paul, thank you. very,-much.-hawkins, very, very much. paul hawkins, our-reporter- very, very much. paul hawkins, our-reporter .- very, very much. paul hawkins, our- reporter , just- our national reporter, just glwlng— our national reporter, just glwlngltne— our national reporter, just giving the lowdown on those giving us the lowdown on those all— giving us the lowdown on those slwll senlse— giving us the lowdown on those civil service strikes. now, look , i civil service strikes. now, look . llust— civil service strikes. now, look . llust-was— civil service strikes. now, look . llust-was ot- civil service strikes. now, look , i just was of course, , i just was—i was of course, llstenlng— , i just was—i was of course, llstenlng to— , i just was—i was of course, listening to paul.- , i just was—i was of course, listening to paul. i was also going— listening to paul. i was also golng on— listening to paul. i was also golng on no— listening to paul. i was also going on now the civil service wetslte— going on now the civil service wetsltellot— going on now the civil service website job vacancies and website for job vacancies and wnat— website for job vacancies and see what kind— website for job vacancies and see what kind of— website for job vacancies and see what kind of stuff that you get— see what kind of stuff that you get ana— see what kind of stuff that you get and you— see what kind of stuff that you can get and you can chief llgltal— can get and you can chief digital officer— can get and you can chief digital officer at the department for levelling up nouslng— department for levelling up housing communities housing and communities 120 grana— housing and communities 120 granllyear— housing and communities 120 granllyear .— housing and communities 120 grand year. that's pretty grand a year. that's pretty good.— grand a year. that's pretty good. lt— grand a year. that's pretty good. it looks— grand a year. that's pretty good. it looks me as though good. it looks to me as though tron— good. it looks to me as though tron tne— good. it looks to me as though from the description that you san-tron — from the description that you san-tron _as- from the description that youj can -from - as well. from the description that you- can -from _as well. and can work from home as well. and tnere-s— can work from home as well. and tnere-s-golng— can work from home as well. and there's-going about- there's a lot going about here about— there's a lot going about here about health— there's a lot going about here about health safety. you can about health and safety. you can get-a— about health and safety. you can get—a-lt— about health and safety. you can get-a-lt you- about health and safety. you can get-a-if you wanti get 50 grand a year if you want tola— get 50 grand a year if you want tola nealtn— get 50 grand a year if you want to.a health and— get 50 grand a year if you want to a health and safety to be a health and safety ottlser— to be a health and safety officer there, _ to be a health and safety officer there, which think is officer there, which i think is gulte— officer there, which i think is gulls-wort.— officer there, which i think is quite-work. if- officer there, which i think is quite work. if you can get quite nice work. if you can get gap,— quite nice work. if you can get an, lsn-t— quite nice work. if you can get an, em lte— quite nice work. if you can get that, isn't it? 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biden answered from biden answered questions from a tunsn— biden answered questions from a tunsn ot— biden answered questions from a tunsn or was.— biden answered questions from a bunch of kids. here's a clue . bunch of kids. here's a clue. plan-t— bunch of kids. here's a clue. plan-t go— bunch of kids. here's a clue. didn't go that— bunch of kids. here's a clue. didn't go that well. okay, so i'll didn't go that well. okay, so l-ll trlng— didn't go that well. okay, so l-ll trlng you— didn't go that well. okay, so i'll bring you a— didn't go that well. okay, so i'll bring you a clip of that. it i'll bring you a clip of that. lt ls— i'll bring you a clip of that. it is absolutely— i'll bring you a clip of that. it is absolutely hilarious. but first.— it is absolutely hilarious. but tlrst. g..— it is absolutely hilarious. but first, oh, also— it is absolutely hilarious. but first, oh, also as— it is absolutely hilarious. but first, oh, also as well, should tlng— first, oh, also as well, should tlng snarles— first, oh, also as well, should king charles abdicate? there's sonteat— king charles abdicate? there's more context story. i'll more context to that story. i'll glwe— more context to that story. i'll glwe-to— more context to that story. i'll glwe-to you— more context to that story. i'll glwe-to you put- more context to that story. i'll give-to you, but i- more context to that story. i'll give to you, but i want give that to you, but i want your— give that to you, but i want your lews— give that to you, but i want your views gbviews@gbnews.uk. snoull— your views gbviews@gbnews.uk. i snoull—tate should he give william and kate a-tnougn— should he give william and kate a though, headlines with a go now, though, headlines with nrlanna— a go now, though, headlines with nrlanna .— a go now, though, headlines with brianna . patrick— a go now, though, headlines with brianna . patrick thank you. brianna. patrick thank you. lts— brianna. patrick thank you. lt-s sol. — brianna. patrick thank you. lt-s sol. tour— brianna. patrick thank you. it's 331. your top— brianna. patrick thank you. it's 331. your top stories from the newsroom richard sharp has resigned as bbc chairman after a report found he breached the rules for public appointments. the review states he failed to properly disclose his involvement in the facilitation of an £800,000 loan guarantee to bods of an £800,000 loan guarantee to boris johnson. mr sharp says the breach was inadvertent and not material, but added he's quitting to prioritise the interests of the broadcaster , interests of the broadcaster, following calls from labour that he should have been sacked. prime minister rishi sunak says the right process was followed. this is about doing things

properly and professionally and when concerns are raised it's right that there is a proper process, an independent process that we don't prejudge. we allow it to carry on, establish- that we don't prejudge. we allow it to carry on, establish the- it to carry on, establish the lasts— it to carry on, establish the lasts ot— it to carry on, establish the facts of what— it to carry on, establish the facts of what happened, reach a sonsluslon— facts of what happened, reach a conclusion that's— facts of what happened, reach a conclusion that's happened . conclusion that's happened. lslsnarl— conclusion that's happened. richard sharp— conclusion that's happened. richard sharp has resigned, but it's richard sharp has resigned, but lt-s rlgnt— richard sharp has resigned, but as rlgnt tnat— richard sharp has resigned, but it's right that we— richard sharp has resigned, but it's right that we do these tnlngs— it's right that we do these things properly and professionally. i think most people— professionally. i think most people wlll— professionally. i think most people will think that that's the people will think that that's tne rlgnt— people will think that that's the right thing— people will think that that's the right thing to do. the warlonal— the right thing to do. the national education union will loll— national education union will loll-ballot— national education union will hold-ballot of- national education union will hold ballot of its hold a fresh ballot of its rnernerst— hold a fresh ballot of its members state funded schools members in state funded schools in members in state funded schools ln-tor— members in state funded schools ln-tor runner— members in state funded schools in-for further strike- in england for further strike astlon. — in england for further strike astlon. lt-s— in england for further strike action. it's over- in england for further strike action. c in england for further strike action. 5“2 cc action. it's over pay and will open on the 15th of may, closing at the end of july. it follows this morning's announcements that head teachers in england are to hold another vote on whether they'll strike over pay . meanwhile members of the unite union in england have rejected the government's latest pay offer to nhs staff in their long running pay dispute. just over half of its members who took part voted against a 5% pay increase . unite says planned increase. unite says planned strikes by more than 4000 nhs workers across england will now

go ahead next week . at least 17 go ahead next week. at least 17 people have been killed as russian airstrikes hit key cities across ukraine to children are among those killed . the attacks come as ukraine is set to launch an offensive with new military equipment from western allies . and the prince western allies. and the prince and princess of wales have paid and princess of wales have paid an emotional visit to a welsh village to remember the victims of the 1966 aberfan disaster . of the 1966 aberfan disaster. 116 children and 28 adults were killed after a colliery spoil tip collapsed onto a school and neighbouring homes. william and kate visited the aberfan memorial garden on the site of the former primary school to pay their respects . tv online , the former primary school to pay their respects. tv online , dab+ their respects. tv online, dab+ radio and on tune in. this is. gb news direct bullion sponsors the financial report on gb news

for gold and silver investment . for gold and silver investment. here's a quick snapshot of today's markets. the pound will buy you 1.25 to 1 dollars and ,1.1376. the price of gold is £1,583.99 per ounce. and the ftse 100 is at 7856 points. direct bullion sponsors the finance report on gb news for gold and silver investment . gold and silver investment. morad tahbaz of royal news doing the rounds today as i said, later on, i'm going to be having a big discussion about the latest polls that came out that showed that william and kate are by quite a long way anyway, the most something most popular royal something i think many of us probably knew. but make me wonder anyway but it did make me wonder anyway r_i

convention abdicated, giving us a-long tlne— convention abdicated, giving us a-long tlne ot- convention abdicated, giving us a long time of william a rather long time of william ana— a rather long time of william and kate. — a rather long time of william and late. or— a rather long time of william and kate. of course, a lot of people— and kate. of course, a lot of people nave— and kate. of course, a lot of people have very— and kate. of course, a lot of people have very strong views agalnst— people have very strong views agalnst-nut— people have very strong views against-but get- people have very strong views against but get your views against that. but get your views sonlng— against that. but get your views coming gbviews@gbnews.uk coming in gbviews@gbnews.uk oute— coming in gbviews@gbnews.uk oulte a— coming in gbviews@gbnews.uk oulte anot— coming in gbviews@gbnews.uk quite a of people actually quite a lot of people actually saylng.— quite a lot of people actually saying, absolutely saying, look, absolutely the loyal— saying, look, absolutely thei loyal—tne royal family did exactly the wrong— royal family did exactly the wrong rung.— royal family did exactly the wrong thing. what we needed was a-llng. — wrong thing. what we needed was a-llng. nut— wrong thing. what we needed was a-llng. nut l— wrong thing. what we needed was a-king. but i think- wrong thing. what we needed was a king. but i think that's a young king. but i think that's possltly— a young king. but i think that's possibly-unfair,- possibly a bit unfair, espeslally- possibly a bit unfair, especially run possibly a bit unfair,- especially-run up to especially in the run up to his soronatlon.— especially in the run up to his coronation-there- especially in the run up to his coronation. there are. coronation. but there we are. tne— coronation. but there we are. tne polls— coronation. but there we are. tne polls-tne— coronation. but there we are. the polls the polls, as they the polls are the polls, as they say.— the polls are the polls, as they say. out— the polls are the polls, as they say. out ln— the polls are the polls, as they say. but in other— the polls are the polls, as they say. but in other semi royal we all— say. but in other semi royal news, we all know that meghan walle— news, we all know that meghan wane-ner— news, we all know that meghan markle-her-and. markle loves her privacy and rust— markle loves her privacy and lust-te— markle loves her privacy and lust-ts lett- markle loves her privacy and just be left alone. so just wants to be left alone. so llle— just wants to be left alone. so llle-wno— just wants to be left alone. so llle-wno-to- just wants to be left alone. sol like-who-to keep like anyone who wants to keep tnelr— like anyone who wants to keep tnelr nearl— like anyone who wants to keep their head down,— like anyone who wants to keep their head down, she's reponelly— their head down, she's reportedly one of their head down, she's- reportedly-one of the reportedly signed one of the tlggest— reportedly signed one of the biggest talent— reportedly signed one of the biggest talent agencies in hollywood.— biggest talent agencies in hollywood. now the duchess of susse— hollywood. now the duchess of susse ls— hollywood. now the duchess of sussex is supposedly not interested— sussex is supposedly not interested in— sussex is supposedly not interested in going back to astlng— interested in going back to astlng-as— interested in going back to acting-as well,- interested in going back to acting as well, really, acting just as well, really, lsn-t— acting just as well, really, lsn-t lw— acting just as well, really, isn't it? but— acting just as well, really, isn't it? but rather wants to go no— isn't it? but rather wants to go into television— isn't it? but rather wants to go into television production , own into television production, own transl— into television production, own brand partnerships , and was brand partnerships, and was lessrltel— brand partnerships, and was described as— brand partnerships, and was described as overall all tuslness— described as overall all business building that is like a job description— business building that is like a job description from the civil senlse. — job description from the civil senlse. wow.— job description from the civil service. now, apparently making ls at— service. now, apparently making rom coms is at the— service. now, apparently making rom coms is at the top of her prlorlty— rom coms is at the top of her prlorlty llst— rom coms is at the top of her priority list because in her words— priority list because in her words .— priority list because in her words , everything she and harry words, everything she and harry say ls— words, everything she and harry say ls tnrougn— words, everything she and harry say is through the— words, everything she and harry say is through the prism of

wet— say is through the prism of tnelr lowe— say is through the prism of their love story,— say is through the prism of their love story, which i think is their love story, which i think ls enougn— their love story, which i think ls enougn to— their love story, which i think is enough to make you choke on your— is enough to make you choke on your cornflakes_ is enough to make you choke on your cornflakes in— is enough to make you choke on your cornflakes in the morning, lsn-t— your cornflakes in the morning, lsn-t lw— your cornflakes in the morning, nut to so— your cornflakes in the morning, isn't it? so what— your cornflakes in the morning, isn't it? so what do you make of all or— isn't it? so what do you make of all or war— isn't it? so what do you make of all of that then?— isn't it? so what do you make of all of that then? do— isn't it? so what do you make of all of that then? do you think tnat— all of that then? do you think tnat wegnan— all of that then? do you think that meghan markle is right to go-a_ that meghan markle is right to go-a putllslst- that meghan markle is right to go-a publicist, a- go and get a publicist, a massive publicist to try and boost— massive publicist to try and boost ner— massive publicist to try and boost her popularity? but talllng— talking of popularity, the ones— talking of popularity, the. tlng-s—are king's popularity ratings are now are now at— king's popularity ratings are now are now at their lowest level— now are now at their lowest level-our— now are now at their lowest level-our late- now are now at their lowest level our late queen sadly level since our late queen sadly passel— level since our late queen sadly passed away— level since our late queen sadly passed away .— level since our late queen sadly passed away . now,— level since our late queen sadly passed away . now, more people passed away. now, more people tnan— passed away. now, more people tnan ever— passed away. now, more people tnan are— passed away. now, more people than ever are thinking that astually— than ever are thinking that astually lt— than ever are thinking that actually it should be king wllllan.— actually it should be king william, not— actually it should be king william, not king charles, that we are allowing— william, not king charles, that we are allowing to the throne. l-n — we are allowing to the throne. l-n golng— we are allowing to the throne. l-n golng to— we are allowing to the throne. l-n golng to go— we are allowing to the throne. i'm going to go into the inbox stepnen— i'm going to go into the inbox now. stephen says, look, absolutely— now. stephen says, look, absolutely king charles should nave— absolutely king charles should have abdicated— absolutely king charles should have abdicated .— absolutely king charles should have abdicated . the royal family have abdicated. the royal family neelel— have abdicated. the royal family needed a— have abdicated. the royal family needed a young— have abdicated. the royal family needed a young king with a young tanlly— needed a young king with a young ranlly. wnye— needed a young king with a young family. why? because the head of state— family. why? because the head of state needs— family. why? because the head of state needs energy— family. why? because the head of state needs energy to promote a forward— state needs energy to promote a forward looking,— state needs energy to promote a forward looking, modern society. can— forward looking, modern society. can l— forward looking, modern society. can llust— forward looking, modern society. can llust pusn— forward looking, modern society. can i just push back on that a late— can i just push back on that a tlte stepnen— can i just push back on that a bit? stephen because we are going— bit? stephen because we are golng rnasslwe— bit? stephen because we are going massive on the coronation i going massive on the coronation l or— going massive on the coronation l tor one— going massive on the coronation i for one, absolutely can't wait for i for one, absolutely can't wait tor-ansl— i for one, absolutely can't wait for-and-think- i for one, absolutely can't wait for-and-think that- for it. and i do think that maybe— for it. and i do think that nayte tlng— for it. and i do think that maybe king charles does bring a lot or— maybe king charles does bring a lot of experience,— maybe king charles does bring a lot of experience, isn't he? he trlngs— lot of experience, isn't he? he trlngsla— lot of experience, isn't he? he trlngsla nuge— lot of experience, isn't he? he brings a huge amount lived brings in a huge amount of lived epelense — brings in a huge amount of lived experience. _ soft- experience. and that's soft llplonasy—

experience. and that's soft llplonasy .— experience. and that's soft diplomacy . arnie you can't diplomacy. arnie you can't really— diplomacy. arnie you can't really teach— diplomacy. arnie you can't really teach that. that has to be _cultivated - really teach that. that has to be cultivated over a be kind of cultivated over a long— be kind of cultivated over a long perlol— be kind of cultivated over a long period of— be kind of cultivated over a long period of time. so where do you-on— long period of time. so where do you-on tnat— long period of time. so where do you-on tnat ls— you stand on that is a controversial- you stand on that is a controversial question, but we wlll— controversial question, but we wlll asl— controversial question, but we wlll asl lt— controversial question, but we will ask it nonetheless. but i an — will ask it nonetheless. but i an lolnel— will ask it nonetheless. but i am joined now— will ask it nonetheless. but i am joined now to— will ask it nonetheless. but i am joined now to revert to am joined now to revert back to the am joined now to revert back to tne wegnan— am joined now to revert back to tne wegnan-rt- am joined now to revert back to the meghan pr stunt with the meghan markle pr stunt with alnanagen— the meghan markle pr stunt with a manager, jonathan shalit. a pr manager, jonathan shalit. lonatnan—weryi jonathan, thank you very, very nusn. — jonathan, thank you very, very nusn. -you- jonathan, thank you very, very much. _you make- jonathan, thank you very, very- much. _you make-meghan much. what do you make of meghan markle-s— markle's decision to appoint a hollywood— markle's decision to appoint a hollywood megastar, pr agent, hollywood megastar, a pr agent, to hollywood megastar, a pr agent, rollo— hollywood megastar, a pr agent, tolto sontlnue— hollywood megastar, a pr agent, to.to continue to— hollywood megastar, a pr agent, to to continue to bolster to try to continue to bolster ner— to try to continue to bolster her desperate _ to try to continue to bolster her desperate attempts for prlwasy— her desperate attempts for prlwasy e — her desperate attempts for privacy ? well,- her desperate attempts for privacy ? well, i- her desperate attempts for privacy ? �*fllccc “

and television dramas and documentaries. she can help with their brand. they can help with her charity, dodi. and so she's joined up with the most powerful company in hollywood to help develop whole business and develop the whole business and corporation that her and harry are developing. it's actually a very smart move her because very smart move by her because she's now working with an organisation that really knows best in hollywood . and if you go best in hollywood. and if you go to hollywood, they're exactly the of company you want to the kind of company you want to work with. so they also represent— so they also represent dwayne the rock lonnson— represent dwayne the rock johnson, adele _ represent dwayne the rock johnson, adele and tennis player sara— johnson, adele and tennis player sara ulna— johnson, adele and tennis player sara nina williams if you were alwlslng— sara nina williams if you were advising meghan— sara nina williams if you were advising meghan markle, would you tell— advising meghan markle, would you tell ner— advising meghan markle, would you tell ner to— advising meghan markle, would you tell her to lay— advising meghan markle, would you tell her to lay low for a wnlle— you tell her to lay low for a wnlle or— you tell her to lay low for a while or not? _ you tell her to lay low for a while or not? i— you tell her to lay low for a while or not? 2c“ c you tell her to lay low for a while or not? 2cw“ c while or not? i don't think she can lay low for a while because they've got massive bills. the family, the costs of being in hollywood, the security, the home, the school, everything they need to live a reasonable life is very expensive and they don't get income for united kingdom . they've got to earn the kingdom. they've got to earn the money. i do think to be fair to them, there are some double standards in britain against them . on the one hand, they're

them. on the one hand, they're criticising them for earning money, but on the other hand they're saying they get they're saying they can't get money uk taxpayer. we money from the uk taxpayer. we can't ways, so they can't have it both ways, so they can't have it both ways, so they can't money from uk can't get money from the uk taxpayer, can't earn taxpayer, but they can't earn money because they've got to live if we're to not live if we're going to not provide security , provide them with security, which were not with. which rightly were not with. it's expensive as in the uk it's very expensive as in the uk taxpayer. they've got to pay for their but kind their own security. but the kind of they want costs or of security they want costs or need, i say, cost need, should i say, cost millions a year. i think they millions a year. so i think they seem to be conducting themselves in a way you would expect a private people to. do you think tnat— private people to. do you think tnat sne-s— private people to. do you think that she's potentially- do you think that she's potentially quite tools— that she's potentially quite toxls e— that she's potentially quite toxls e l— that she's potentially quite toxic ? i think— that she's potentially quite toxic ? i think the media toxic? i think the media representation of the uk and the neon— representation of the uk and the media representation outside the uk media representation outside the ut ls— media representation outside the ut ls very— media representation outside the uk is very different indeed. tne— uk is very different indeed. the representation- uk is very different indeed. the representation of- uk is very different indeed. the representation of meghan and harry is very different between age groups in england , and i've age groups in england, and i've got that exact example in my family. my wife can't stand megan, my daughter, a daughter , megan, my daughter, a daughter, and that's the age difference. my and that's the age difference. my wife's a certain age. my daughter is early 30s and she and her age group think meghan's

fantastic. my wife's age group thinks she's terrible in america. they think she's fairly good. they might question perhaps the way she's discussed some of the private elements of the family in interviews. but by and large, she's making headway in a in a very challenging town. and she's making documents . and she's making documents. she's got commissions being in business with netflix, a fantastic opportunity . wme is fantastic opportunity. wme is a great agency to work with, so i suspect this will enhance her brand and lead to greater success. it's almost it's almost llle— success. it's almost it's almost llle narrylng— success. it's almost it's almost like marrying harry— cc it's almost it's almost like marrying harry was kyiv astually— like marrying harry was kyiv actually. yeah.— like marrying harry was kyiv actually. yeah. isn't it. but tnat— actually. yeah. isn't it. but tnat would— actually. yeah. isn't it. but that would be— actually. yeah. isn't it. but that would be that would be the synls— that would be that would be the synls ln— that would be that would be the synls ln ne— that would be that would be the cynic in me. look,— that would be that would be the cynic in me. look, can i just ask— cynic in me. look, can i just ask you— cynic in me. look, can i just ask you a— cynic in me. look, can i just ask you a quick— cynic in me. look, can i just ask you a quick one before i let you— ask you a quick one before i let you goe— ask you a quick one before i let you got ana— ask you a quick one before i let you go? and jonathan, if that's all rlglt— you go? and jonathan, if that's all right, because— you go? and jonathan, if that's all right, because it throws aneal— all right, because it throws aneal to— all right, because it throws aneal to a— all right, because it throws ahead to a discussion i'm having ahead to a discussion i'm having allater— ahead to a discussion i'm having allater on— ahead to a discussion i'm having allater on ana— ahead to a discussion i'm having a.later on and it— ahead to a discussion i'm having a.later on and it is- ahead to a discussion i'm having a later on and it is about a bit later on and it is about tne— a bit later on and it is about tne popularly— a bit later on and it is about the popularity polls of various rnernters— the popularity polls of various members-the— the popularity polls of various members the royal family at members of the royal family at the members of the royal family at tne—nearly- members of the royal family at the—nearly half- members of the royal family at the—nearly half ofi the moment. so nearly half of people—by- the moment. so nearly half of people—ty an- people questioned by an ipsos poll— people questioned by an ipsos poll tnlnl— people questioned by an ipsos poll think charles is doing poll think that charles is doing a-tut— poll think that charles is doing a-tut tnat— poll think that charles is doing a-but that-down. a good job. but that is down tron— a good job. but that is down from tne— a good job. but that is down from the peak— a good job. but that is down from the peak of— a good job. but that is down from the peak of 61% in the polls. — from the peak of 61% in the polls. -want- from the peak of 61% in the polls. _want to i from the peak of 61% in the. polls. _want to know polls. and i just want to know wnetner— polls. and i just want to know wnetner or— polls. and i just want to know whether or not— polls. and i just want to know whether or not you think for the

loyal— whether or not you think for the loyal-as— whether or not you think for the loyal-as a— whether or not you think for the royal-as a brand,- whether or not you think for the royal as a brand, for royal family, as a brand, for tne— royal family, as a brand, for the monarchy,— royal family, as a brand, for the monarchy, an the monarchy, really as an institution— the monarchy, really as an institution and— the monarchy, really as an institution and as a brand, do you— institution and as a brand, do you-tnere— institution and as a brand, do you-there might- institution and as a brand, do. you-there might-been you think there might have been a-te— you think there might have been a-te nat— you think there might have been a-te last war— you think there might have been a be had that charles a case to be had that charles snoult— a case to be had that charles snoull nave— a case to be had that charles should have aside for should have stepped aside for wllllan— should have stepped aside for wllllan ant— should have stepped aside for william and kate young, energetls— william and kate young, energetls .— william and kate young, energetic , popular people with a energetic, popular people with a young— energetic, popular people with a young ranlly— energetic, popular people with a young ranlly wno— energetic, popular people with a young family who could have had awery— young family who could have had a very long— young family who could have had awery long relgn— young family who could have had a very long reign. do you think tnat— a very long reign. do you think tnat would— a very long reign. do you think that would have— a very long reign. do you think that would have done our nonarsny— that would have done our monarchy better? 2c“ c monarchy better? i don't astually— monarchy better? i don't actually know. first of all, i think king charles and queen camilla be are doing an camilla to be are doing an incredibly so incredibly good job. so secondly, need experience as secondly, you need experience as well . the relationship that king well. the relationship that king charles has around the world with the commonwealth, with companies, with industrialists , companies, with industrialists, with entrepreneurs. he has a global set of relationships, very valuable to this country. and yes, william will be an excellent king. but i think william needs to develop those relationships, and i get the impression he probably agrees with is happy for his with that and is happy for his father he's doing. father to do what he's doing. his father's going to go on global tours now as king of england. it'd be for england. it'd be great for income this country. income to this country. william will also learn. also add will also learn. i'd also add that as parents young that as parents of a young family , it's a full time job.

family, it's a full time job. being a parent. if william was king of england, he wouldn't be able to his wife and able to give his wife and children the attention needed. i think we should be very grateful to and queen to king charles and queen camilla. i think everything points towards them having a fantastic i think they're fantastic reign. i think they're not clearly going to be the monarchs as long as the queen, because they haven't started the queen's age. and of queen's young age. and of course, start they course, they start older. they haven't of their haven't got the energy of their son, equally they've got son, but equally they've got the experience remember experience and you must remember that of the issues of that many of the issues of today, charles was talking about long before they were fashionable. actually, fashionable. so actually, charles, for all the flak he got for interfering, was so right in many of the things he said. and i think you'll also find the way his approach to coronation with being meritocracy, bringing being a meritocracy, bringing people who have never people involved who have never had a chance years gone had a chance in years gone by, excluding who excluding people who automatically thought they had a right , a automatically thought they had a right, a birthright to be a coronation yes, everything points to him being the kind of king we love. i think he's almost becoming the nation's favourite grandfather. he does seem and i think people love the

way that him and camilla are so clearly in love. people love the way clearly handles him. way she clearly handles him. maybe the right word in the sense she allows him to be sense that she allows him to be king charles. but at the same time, you know, behind every great a great woman. and great man is a great woman. and she be that. she clearly seems to be that. i think we're very fortunate. and i think after like when alex ferguson took over manchester united, it was really hard for the managers that took over after do well to follow after him to do well to follow the brilliance of the queen is really tricky because she was so successful queen. and i think king charles and queen camilla are doing a really good job. and i next week's going be i think next week's going to be an incredible celebration for the will see the the country. people will see the coronation and love it and then we'll have great reign with we'll have a great reign with charles well. we all hope so. charles as well. we all hope so. ant— charles as well. we all hope so. ant l— charles as well. we all hope so. ant l senalnly— charles as well. we all hope so. and i certainly hope— we all hope so. and i certainly hope after that your— and i certainly hope after that your knighthood— and i certainly hope after that your knighthood in the post your knighthood is in the post tesuse— your knighthood is in the post because you've— your knighthood is in the post because you've certainly lesenel— because you've certainly deserved jonathan deserved it. jonathan great stutt— deserved it. jonathan great stuff. _shallit - deserved it. jonathan great stuff. shallit there deserved it. jonathan great sttalent shallit there deserved it. jonathan great sttalent managerlallit there deserved it. jonathan great sttalent managerjust there deserved it. jonathan great sttalent manager just initially a talent manager just initially sowerlng— covering meghan markle's latest pr covering meghan markle's latest trs-ant— covering meghan markle's latest pr-andlcourse- covering meghan markle's latest pr-andlcourse the- pr push and of course the popularly— pr push and of course the popularity-our- pr push and of course the popularity our monarchy. popularity of our monarchy. lnterestlng— popularity of our monarchy. interesting though, that whilst wllllan — interesting though, that whilst wllllan _62%i interesting though, that whilst. william _62% of william is more popular, 62% of people— william is more popular, 62% of people say— william is more popular, 62% of

people say tney— william is more popular, 62% of people say they are very satlstlel— people say they are very satisfied prince william . satisfied with prince william. lnat— satisfied with prince william. lnat ls— satisfied with prince william. lnat ls town — satisfied with prince william. that is down from 81. a massive ln— that is down from 81. a massive increase in the— that is down from 81. a massive increase in the number of don't knos— increase in the number of don't knos ant— increase in the number of don't knos ant l— increase in the number of don't knows. and i can't— increase in the number of don't knows. and i can't help but wonetr— knows. and i can't help but rwonetr lt— knows. and i can't help but rwonetr lt a— knows. and i can't help but wonder if a little bit of that a llttle— wonder if a little bit of that a llttle tlt— wonder if a little bit of that a little bit of— wonder if a little bit of that a little bit of that— wonder if a little bit of that a little bit of that is the harry ant— little bit of that is the harry ant wegnan— little bit of that is the harry and meghan effect. let me know wnat— and meghan effect. let me know wnat you— and meghan effect. let me know wnat you tnlnk— and meghan effect. let me know what you think that email attress— what you think that email address bottom of your address at the bottom of your tnere — address at the bottom of your screen there if— address at the bottom of your screen there if you're watching us onlor— screen there if you're watching us on .or online— us on tv or online vaiews@gbnews.uk, of us on tv or online— vaiews@gbnews.uk, of course, ton-t— vaiews@gbnews.uk, of course, tout—take- vaiews@gbnews.uk, of course, ton-t—take us- don't forget you can take us wltn— don't forget you can take us with .wherever- don't forget you can take us with wherever go on don't forget you can take us- with .wherever-go on dab with you wherever you go on dab ratlo— with you wherever you go on dab ratlosourse-— with you wherever you go on dab radio-course,-all. radio and of course, across all tne— radio and of course, across all tne-as— radio and of course, across all tne-as-tut- radio and of course, across all the-as-but now- radio and of course, across all the as but now the the apps as well. but now the tos— the apps as well. but now the tts-klsnart- the apps as well. but now the bbc richard sharpe, bbc chairman, richard sharpe, has bbc chairman, richard sharpe, nas-ln— bbc chairman, richard sharpe, nas-ln a— bbc chairman, richard sharpe, has-in a victory- bbc chairman, richard sharpe, has in a victory for has resigned in a victory for lettles— has resigned in a victory for lefties everywhere after he was tount — lefties everywhere after he was tount to — lefties everywhere after he was found to have— lefties everywhere after he was found to have broken the rules by found to have broken the rules ty-tlsslose- found to have broken the rules by-disclose that- found to have broken the rules by disclose that he by failing to disclose that he playet— by failing to disclose that he playet a— by failing to disclose that he playet a role— by failing to disclose that he played a role in— by failing to disclose that he played a role in getting boris lonnson— played a role in getting boris lonnson an— played a role in getting boris johnson an £800,000 loan guarantee— johnson an £800,000 loan guarantee .— johnson an £800,000 loan guarantee . so— johnson an £800,000 loan guarantee . so to be fair, quite guarantee. soto be fair, quite a guarantee. so to be fair, quite a lot— guarantee. so to be fair, quite a lot or— guarantee. so to be fair, quite a lot or people— guarantee. soto be fair, quite a lot of people will be saying tnls— a lot of people will be saying we ls— a lot of people will be saying we ls lust— a lot of people will be saying we ls lust a— a lot of people will be saying this is just a victory for tesensy— this is just a victory for decency and- this is just a victory for decency and not not just the let.— decency and not not just the left. so— decency and not not just the left. so there— decency and not not just the left. so there is— decency and not not just the left. so there is that. sharpe wlll— left. so there is that. sharpe wlll slant— left. so there is that. sharpe will stand down— left. so there is that. sharpe will stand down at the end of tune — will stand down at the end of tune .lolnet— will stand down at the end of june.-joined now- will stand down at the end of june. joined now by june. i'm joined now by catherine— june. i'm joined now by catherine who catherine forster, who is outslte— catherine forster, who is outside broadcasting catherine forster, who is oucentral broadcasting catherine forster, who is ou central london. casting catherine forster, who is ou central london. and ng in central london. and catherine,— in central london. and catherine, this may come as a snosk— catherine, this may come as a snosk to— catherine, this may 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have headed their story about snarpe golng— have headed their story about sharpe going with a faded image of sharpe going with a faded image or you— sharpe going with a faded image or you at— sharpe going with a faded image or you at tne— sharpe going with a faded image or you at tne top— sharpe going with a faded image of you at the top of it. so you are simultaneously both on the tos— are simultaneously both on the tot-on— are simultaneously both on the tts-on st— are simultaneously both on the bbc-on gb news.- are simultaneously both on the bbc on gb news. so it's a bbc and on gb news. so it's a team— bbc and on gb news. so it's a dream come true. _ bbc and on gb news. so it's a dream come true. but what is the latest— dream come true. but what is the latest tnen— dream come true. but what is the latest then from _ dream come true. but what is the latest then from the _ dream come true. but what is the latest then from the bbc hq? yest— latest then from the bbc hq? was. well— latest then from the bbc hq? was. well .— latest then from the bbc hq? yes, well , talking— latest then from the bbc hq? yes, well , talking to- latest then from the bbc hq? yes, well , talking to somebody a yes, well, talking to somebody a little bit earlier , she was little bit earlier, she was saying, yes, she felt it was inevitable, somebody that works for you know that for the bbc. but you know that people are busy doing their jobs, we're all jobs, basically. so we're all obsessing it. they're just obsessing about it. they're just getting with there but getting on with it. there but certainly he's gone. he's gone quickly in the end, although throughout this investigation version, he was holding firm that he'd done nothing wrong. but clearly he's been found to have breached the rules on pubuc have breached the rules on public appointments twice. and i think what it's done is opened up a huge debate on the way that the bbc chair is appointed. it's always been a political appointment. you know , he owes appointment. you know, he owes his position to boris johnson. ultimately that has been the case going back, it's always the prime minister ultimately that recommends these appointments, but real calls now for that to change going forward . now,

change going forward. now, labour obviously are pushing for that because potentially rishi sunak will oversee the appointment of a new chair. that would be a four year term. labour are supposing that they're going to get into government before then . so it government before then. so it raises a lot of questions and of course comes at a very difficult time for the bbc. big questions about impartiality , big about impartiality, big questions about its funds thing and where it goes and i'd really interesting to see what happens now, but rishi sunak absolutely not ruling out that it's going to continue to be a political appointment. catherine thank you very, very much. catherine rorster— very, very much. catherine forster those _ rc2; rc2; “.c“ catherine forster those outside new broadcasting _ forster those outside new broadcasting house in central lonton— broadcasting house in central lonton ant— broadcasting house in central london and catherine raises some polnts— london and catherine raises some serious points about— london and catherine raises some serious points about this and atout— serious points about this and atout tne— serious points about this and about the political ization of war— about the political ization of tar role— about the political ization of that role going— about the political ization of that role going back to 2000. oreg— that role going back to 2000. set wno— that role going back to 2000. greg who donated 50 grand to latour.— greg who donated 50 grand to labour, appointed bbc director general— labour, appointed bbc director general stor— labour, appointed bbc director general, 2001 gavyn davies , general, 2001 gavyn davies, latour— general, 2001 gavyn davies, labour member— general, 2001 gavyn davies, labour member and donor appolntet— labour member and donor appointed chairman of the bbc two tnousant— appointed chairman of the bbc two thousand and— appointed chairman of the bbc two thousand and seven. michael lyons— two thousand and seven. michael lyons. latour— two thousand and seven. michael lyons. labour member. former

latour— lyons. labour member. former labour-appointed. labour councillor appointed snalrnan— labour councillor appointed chairman of— labour councillor appointed chairman of bbc. but now chairman of the bbc. but now apparently— chairman of the bbc. but now apparently lt-s— chairman of the bbc. but now apparently it's-an- chairman of the bbc. but now apparently it's an issue apparently it's more of an issue tnan— apparently it's more of an issue tnan lt— apparently it's more of an issue tnan lt was— apparently it's more of an issue than it was before.— apparently it's more of an issue than it was before. i suspect lt-s— than it was before. i suspect lt-s tesuse— than it was before. i suspect it's because there's direct it's because there's more direct money— it's because there's more direct money-anyway.- it's because there's more direct money-anyway. wel it's because there's more direct money anyway. we were money involved anyway. we were pronlset— money involved anyway. we were promisedlbonfire_ money involved anyway. we were promised bonfire eu laws , promised a bonfire of eu laws, tut— promised a bonfire of eu laws, tut tnat— promised a bonfire of eu laws, but that bonfire— promised a bonfire of eu laws, but that bonfire appears to have teen— but that bonfire appears to have been extinguished— but that bonfire appears to have been extinguished . i'm patrick been extinguished. i'm patrick snrlstys— been extinguished. i'm patrick snrlstys-wews— been extinguished. i'm patrick christys news and we are christys on gb news and we are trltaln-s—

on gb news, the people's. channel okay, so a man who sexually abused his daughter now identifies as a woman. and not only that , identifies as a woman. and not only tnat . tut— identifies as a woman. and not only that , but clive— 2c“ �*" “ and not only that , but clive bundy. now only that, but clive bundy. now tne— only that, but clive bundy. now uses the name— only that, but clive bundy. now uses the name of— only that, but clive bundy. now uses the name of a regular gb wews— uses the name of a regular gb news contributor— uses the name of a regular gb news contributor and i decided to nawe— news contributor and i decided to nawe a— news contributor and i decided to have a chat— news contributor and i decided to have a chat with this panlsular— to have a chat with this particular individual to see how tney— particular individual to see how tney reel— particular individual to see how they feel about— particular individual to see how they feel about it.— particular individual to see how they feel about it. i'm joined ty— they feel about it. i'm joined now by baroness— they feel about it. i'm joined now by baroness claire fox in ot— now by baroness claire fox in ot tne— now by baroness claire fox in one of the more— now by baroness claire fox in one of the more bizarre interactions— one of the more bizarre interactions i- one of the more bizarre interactions i think that we're possltly— interactions i think that we're possltly atout— interactions i think that we're possibly about have claire possibly about to have claire tut— possibly about to have claire tut-lust— possibly about to have claire tut-lust talk- possibly about to have claire but just talk through but look, just talk me through wnat-s— but look, just talk me through was golng— but look, just talk me through was golng on— but look, just talk me through what's going on here. what a gross— what's going on here. what a gross story— what's going on here. what a gross story this is patrick, and a real story of our time. and

i'm very upset about it. um but can you imagine what it's like for his daughter who was the victim of his abuse? so you've got this character, clive bundy, who abused his daughter from the age of nine. and for the age of eight for nine years. he eventually got put in prison. 15 years sentence in 2016 and is due to be let out on parole and only after serving seven years, two years ago decided to transition or, you know , said transition or, you know, said had gender dysphoria . and of had gender dysphoria. and of course, the prison went out of their way to supply him. and i stress him, clive, with makeup and a dress and so on. and the thing that's really horrible about all this is that his daughter , after kerry lee gavin, daughter, after kerry lee gavin, would not have known any of this and had not the victim liaison officer told her eventually . um, officer told her eventually. um, but clive bundy is about to get

out of prison , live under the out of prison, live under the name of claire fox. his own daughter who he abused, and anyone else would therefore have not know that clive bundy was out and about. um for people who are not related or don't know this story, which is why we need to tell this story. the thing is, is that now on his driving licence and on his birth certificate, it will say claire fox and obviously this is a joke, but it it's an attempt at erasing and disguising his crimes as disguising his heinous crimes. and the ministry of justice say, oh yeah, well, what can we do? you know, we can't misgender or, you know, go against the wishes of this transgender woman as we're now supposed to behave. what a horrible situation , ian. it's horrible situation, ian. it's absolutely disgusting- absolutely disgusting . and absolutely disgusting. and youe— absolutely disgusting. and you're completely, completely rlgnt— you're completely, completely rlgnt to— you're completely, completely right to highlight that the big wlstln — right to highlight that the big wlstln ln— right to highlight that the big wlstln lniot— right to highlight that the big victim in of this, quite victim in all of this, quite llterally— victim in all of this, quite literally,.his_ victim in all of this, quite literally, his daughter, who literally, is his daughter, who suttenly— literally, is his daughter, who was suddenly abused. but this is

a synptonatls— was suddenly abused. but this is a symptomatic case of something golng— a symptomatic case of something golng to— a symptomatic case of something we're going to see— a symptomatic case of something we're going to see a lot more of. we're going to see a lot more on ant— we're going to see a lot more on ant lt— we're going to see a lot more of. and it appears— we're going to see a lot more of. and it appears to be a clear ant— of. and it appears to be a clear ant otwlous— of. and it appears to be a clear and obvious loophole for atsolute— and obvious loophole for absolute, complete and utter monsters like— absolute, complete and utter monsters like this chap use. monsters like this chap to use. ant— monsters like this chap to use. and-headfirst- monsters like this chap to use. and headfirst through and monsters like this chap to use. ancwell, headfirst through and monsters like this chap to use. ancwell, i'meadfirst through and monsters like this chap to use. ancwell, i'm goingt through and monsters like this chap to use. ancwell, i'm going totrough and monsters like this chap to use. ancwell, i'm going to change nd monsters like this chap to use. ancwell, i'm going to change my go, well, i'm going to change my name a new identity and name and get a new identity and stan— name and get a new identity and stat-ant— name and get a new identity and stat-ant you— name and get a new identity and start-and you could- name and get a new identity and start and you could end start again. and you could end up, i— start again. and you could end up. l say.— start again. and you could end up. l say. tnls— start again. and you could end up, i say, this decides he up, i say, this guy decides he wants— up, i say, this guy decides he wants-a— up, i say, this guy decides he wants-a painter,- up, i say, this guy decides he wants a painter, decorator wants to be a painter, decorator or sonetnlng— wants to be a painter, decorator or somethingland_ wants to be a painter, decorator or something and know, he's or something, and you know, he's going— or something, and you know, he's golng—aount- or something, and you know, he's golng—aount to- going to be going around to people-s— going to be going around to peoples-tney- going to be going around to people's they might going to be going around to- people's-they might have people's houses. they might have klts. — people's houses. they might have klts. l— people's houses. they might have klts. l mean— people's houses. they might have kids. i mean,.is_ people's houses. they might have kids. i mean,.is just— kids. i mean, it is just monstrous,— kids. i mean, it is just- monstrous,-well, yeah, monstrous, isn't it? well, yeah, because what is because actually what happens is the home office will now use this name, right? so you've got a number of different things happening here. if you wanted to do a, you know, a check on this person, a police check , um, you person, a police check, um, you would have to check under claire fox and you might be a bit surprised to find that claire fox either hasn't got a record or that actually claire fox is appearin or that actually claire fox is appear in the house of lords, right? it might be. and but whatever. and so it's obviously completely confusing the whole situation and, and but obviously

well it what it won't show is that this person is a. you know , an incestuous who abused his own daughter. and there's no trace of that now. it's eradicated . um, i mean, you eradicated. um, i mean, you know, i've kind of tried to make light of this and joke at a silly level, which is if clive bundy appears on social media as claire fox and thinks it's going to make his life easier, he might not realise how many trolls i've got and understand that he's actually likely to be under. that he's actually likely to be under . it that he's actually likely to be under. it doesn't matter which on every few months because there's a few other claire foxes who are genuinely ordinary claire foxes and i always feel sorry for them that on occasion they get the, the nasty, you know, the ipp people or those kind of trans activists who absolutely hate me and think i'm absolutely hate me and think i'm a bigot going for him, that would be a moment of irony. but this is obviously an attempt at trolling as well. his daughter actually believes he's chosen my name as a kind of flagrant act of entering into the kind of

trans activism, you know, as a kind of chief fingers trolling to those of us who are gender critical and have tried to draw attention to the lunacy that's going on in relation to people refusing in official positions like the home office , refusing like the home office, refusing to acknowledge there's a man, it's clive bundy. you know, one thing changing your name, changing your gender just thing changing your name, changing your genderjust as changing your gender just as simply as that is not on. like i said before, you're— simply as that is not on. like i said before, you're right- cw“ like i said before, you're right to ltentlty— said before, you're right to ltentlry you— said before, you're right to identify you know, the real wlstln — identify you know, the real wlstln ln— identify you know, the real victim in all— identify you know, the real victim in all of— identify you know, the real victim in all of this is his taugtten— victim in all of this is his daughter. but— victim in all of this is his daughter. but also it's the fact tnat— daughter. but also it's the fact tnat no— daughter. but also it's the fact that now this— daughter. but also it's the fact that now this guy— daughter. but also it's the fact that now this guy can basically, in that now this guy can basically, ln a— that now this guy can basically, in a sense, commit— that now this guy can basically, in a sense, commit identity naut— in a sense, commit identity traut ant— in a sense, commit identity fraud and pose— in a sense, commit identity fraud and pose with your name, arguatly— fraud and pose with your name, arguably deliberately. you arguably deliberately. and you well— arguably deliberately. and you well you— arguably deliberately. and you well, you wouldn't be, but you get wnat— well, you wouldn't be, but you get wnat l— well, you wouldn't be, but you get what i mean— well, you wouldn't be, but you get what i mean when you say now and get what i mean when you say now ant no— get what i mean when you say now and now linked— get what i mean when you say now and now linked-guy,- get what i mean when you say now and now linked guy, an and now linked with this guy, an lnsestuous— and now linked with this guy, an lnsestuous .— and now linked with this guy, an lnsestuous il— and now linked with this guy, an incestuous ..i feel— and now linked with this guy, an incestuous . i feel linked to incestuous. i, i feel linked to lt. — incestuous. i, i feel linked to lt. ratrlsk— incestuous. i, i feel linked to it. patrick that's- incestuous. i, i feel linked to it. cc incestuous. i, i feel linked to it. patrick that's what's so horrible about it. i feel somehow implicated in this horrible , sordid story, right? horrible, sordid story, right? i mean, you know , it means that mean, you know, it means that when clive bundy , you know, if when clive bundy, you know, if and i hope never but you know, it's been let out early, does

some terrible crime. but certainly the crimes that have been committed my name is associated with it. it's an extremely unpleasant feeling. but i don't want to make this about me. i want to make it about me. i want to make it about the loophole i really hope. and lucy allan is the is an the daughters mbappe and she's been doing some good work. that's where i first heard about it when lucy allan raised in parliament, i nearly had a heart attack and it just hit the press now. but lucy allan's been rightly campaigning around this and that the home office and i hope that the home office will actually really think that this shows how ludicrous the system is, where we are, you know, because what will happen now is i could well get into trouble for misgendering. clive today. yeah, that's the sort of thing that will happen. it'll be me that will be accused of being the bigot. yeah. look, clare, thank you very much for coming on talking about this. it is on and talking about this. it is really, really important. - really, really important. it's baroness hallett fox and it's lnponant— baroness hallett fox and it's lnponant to— baroness hallett fox and it's important to stress the baroness elements— important to stress the baroness elements-look,- important to stress the baroness elements-look, i've- important to stress the baroness elements look, i've got elements of that. look, i've got loats— elements of that. look, i've got loats-sonlng— elements of that. look, i've got loads-coming your- loads more coming your way, lnslutlng—

loads more coming your way, lnslutlng-ot- loads more coming your way, including of that, are including in light of that, are we-llwlng— including in light of that, are we-llwlng ln- including in light of that, are we living in lawless we actually living in lawless trltalne— we actually living in lawless britain? after— we actually living in lawless britain? after litany of britain? after a litany of pollse— britain? after a litany of police failures horrific police failures and horrific crimes-been- police failures and horrific. crimes-been taking crimes that have been taking plase— crimes that have been taking plase lust— crimes that have been taking plase lust ln— crimes that have been taking place just in-last- crimes that have been taking place just in last few days? place just in the last few days? ratrlsk— place just in the last few days? patrick christys _ place just in the last few days? patrick christys on— place just in the last few days? patrick christys on .

gb news. it's 4 igb news. it's 4 p.m.| igb news.- it's 4 pm. it's lot wews. — it's 4 pm. it's patrick snrlstys— it's 4 pm. it's patrick christys right here on gb news ant— christys right here on gb news ant ln— christys right here on gb news ant l-n golng— christys right here on gb news ant l-n golng ln— christys right here on gb news and i'm going in strong today wltn— and i'm going in strong today with lawless— and i'm going in strong today with lawless britain. i woke up tnls— with lawless britain. i woke up we nornlng— with lawless britain. i woke up this morning to— with lawless britain. i woke up this morning to a— with lawless britain. i woke up this morning to a series of catastropn— this morning to a series of catastroph legal stories. the wet— catastroph legal stories. the wet rollse— catastroph legal stories. the met police not— catastroph legal stories. the met police not learning their lessons— met police not learning their lessons from _ met police not learning their lessons from this grinder killer tnat— lessons from this grinder killer tnat you-ll— lessons from this grinder killer that you'll see _ lessons from this grinder killer that you'll see there on your screens right— that you'll see there on your screens right now. people of screens right now. the people of wansnester—lni manchester apparently living in fear manchester apparently living in tear-a— manchester apparently living in tearla snap— manchester apparently living in tearla snap-a- manchester apparently living in fear a chap a crowbar, fear as a chap with a crowbar, keeps— fear as a chap with a crowbar, keeps attacking— fear as a chap with a crowbar, keeps attacking people. we've gotlnurter— keeps attacking people. we've gotlnurter ln— keeps attacking people. we've got murder in scotland. got a murder in scotland. a suspestet— got a murder in scotland. a suspected murderer allegedly by kids suspected murderer allegedly by klts ln— suspected murderer allegedly by kids in nuneaton.— suspected murderer allegedly by kids in nuneaton. we've also got the kids in nuneaton. we've also got tne tast— kids in nuneaton. we've also got tne last war— kids in nuneaton. we've also got the fact that around 600 turglarles— the fact that around 600 burglaries aren't being burglaries a day aren't being solwet. — burglaries a day aren't being solwet. _ls— burglaries a day aren't being solved. _is going- burglaries a day aren't being solved. is going on? are we solved. what is going on? are we llwlng— solved. what is going on? are we llwlng ln— solved. what is going on? are we llwlng ln laws— solved. what is going on? are we llwlng ln laws e— solved. what is going on? are we living in laws ? us— solved. what is going on? are we living in laws ? us britain? in living in laws? us britain? in otter— living in laws? us britain? in one news— living in laws? us britain? in other news, though , as well, we other news, though, as well, we are

other news, though, as well, we golng— other news, though, as well, we golng to— other news, though, as well, we golng to te— other news, though, as well, we are going to be talking about tnls— are going to be talking about tnls. tos— are going to be talking about this. bbc boss— are going to be talking about this. bbc boss has quit over an lnpanlallty— this. bbc boss has quit over an lnpanlallty-a— this. bbc boss has quit over an impartiality a conflict of impartiality round a conflict of lnterest— impartiality round a conflict of interest etcetera. _ impartiality round a conflict of interest etcetera. but i'm nawlng— interest etcetera. but i'm having-back- interest etcetera. but i'm having-back at. interest etcetera. but i'm having back at some interest etcetera. but i'm - having-back at some of having a look back at some of tne— having a look back at some of tne-polltlsal— having a look back at some of the political appointments having a look back at some of the asking olitical appointments having a look back at some of the asking erg al appointments having a look back at some of the asking erg is appointments having a look back at some of the asking erg is it)pointments having a look back at some of the asking erg is it timetments having a look back at some of the asking erg is it time for nts and asking erg is it time for ot— and asking erg is it time for ot tne— and asking erg is it time for some of the lefties to? in some of the lefties to go to? in otter— some of the lefties to go to? in otter-were— some of the lefties to go to? in other-we're also- some of the lefties to go to? in other we're also going to other news, we're also going to be other news, we're also going to te tousnlng— other news, we're also going to te tousnlng on— other news, we're also going to be touching on all— other news, we're also going to be touching on all of this as well— be touching on all of this as well aren-t— be touching on all of this as well, aren't we,— be touching on all of this as well, aren't we, kate, is your tawourlte— well, aren't we, kate, is your favourite, apparently, it favourite, apparently, when it sonesltne— favourite, apparently, when it comes the royals. it led comes to the royals. it has led to—tuanersl comes to the royals. it has led. to—tuaners not to calls from some quarters, not tron— to calls from some quarters, not tron-ln— to calls from some quarters, not tron-tn at— to calls from some quarters, not from-i'm at pains- to calls from some quarters, not from-i'm at pains to- to calls from some quarters, not from i'm at pains to stress from me. i'm at pains to stress for from me. i'm at pains to stress tor klng— from me. i'm at pains to stress for king charles— from me. i'm at pains to stress for king charles to— from me. i'm at pains to stress for king charles to abdicate and for king charles to abdicate and tor—nawe- for king charles to abdicate and. tor—nawe nat for william and kate to have had a-un as klng— for william and kate to have had a-run as king and- for william and kate to have had a run as king and queen. a longer run as king and queen. wnere— a longer run as king and queen. wnere are— a longer run as king and queen. wnere you— a longer run as king and queen. wnere you on— a longer run as king and queen. where are you on that? it's a controversial— where are you on that? it's a controversial issue, but i want to near— controversial issue, but i want to tea from — controversial issue, but i want to hear from you— controversial issue, but i want to hear from you on it. and tlnally— to hear from you on it. and tlnally as— to hear from you on it. and finally as well. _ to hear from you on it. and finally as well. yeah, got a loat— finally as well. yeah, got a loat ot— finally as well. yeah, got a load of this.— finally as well. yeah, got a load of this. we- finally as well. yeah, got a load of this. we noticed this earller— load of this. we noticed this one earlier on. _ load of this. we noticed this one earlier on. look, rishi sunak—to- one earlier on. look, rishi sunak—to tlyi one earlier on. look, rishi- sunak_to fly from sunak has decided to fly from ssotlant— sunak has decided to fly from tsotlant to— sunak has decided to fly from scotland to wales today. aren't we-tolt — scotland to wales today. aren't we-tolt to — scotland to wales today. aren't we-told to cut- scotland to wales today. aren't we told to cut back we all being told to cut back ant— we all being told to cut back ant nlt— we all being told to cut back ant nlt net— we all being told to cut back and hit net zero— we all being told to cut back and hit net zero targets? and it's and hit net zero targets? and lt-s nlttlng— and hit net zero targets? and it's hitting us— and hit net zero targets? and it's hitting us all— and hit net zero targets? and it's hitting us all in the posket— it's hitting us all in the pocket. what- it's hitting us all in the pocket. what about this? hey, anyway.— pocket. what about this? hey,. anyway—on anyway, patrick christys here on gb anyway, patrick christys here on st wews— anyway, patrick christys here on st news to— anyway, patrick christys here on st news to get— anyway, patrick christys here on gb news to get your views coming in gb news to get your views coming ln tnlsk— gb news to get your views coming ln tnlsk ant— gb news to get your views coming in thick and fast.— gb news to get your views coming in thick and fast. gb— gb news to get your views coming in thick and fast. gb views are stwtwsuk— in thick and fast. gb views are gbnews.uk headlines now . c:

gbnews.uk headlines now. good afternoon. — gbnews.uk headlines now. good afternoon. 4:01.— gbnews.uk headlines now. good afternoon. 4:01. i'm— gbnews.uk headlines now. good afternoon. 4:01. i'm ray- gbnews.uk headlines now. good afternoon. 4:01. i'm ray addison in the newsroom . richard sharp in the newsroom. richard sharp has in the newsroom. richard sharp nas reslgnet— in the newsroom. richard sharp has resigned as— “ richard sharp has resigned as chairman of the lots— has resigned as chairman of the tts alter— has resigned as chairman of the tts alter a— has resigned as chairman of the bbc after a report— has resigned as chairman of the bbc after a report found that he treasnet— bbc after a report found that he treasnet tne— bbc after a report found that he breached the rules— bbc after a report found that he breached the rules for public appolntnents— breached the rules for public appolntnents .— breached the rules for public appointments . the review says appointments. the review says tnat— appointments. the review says tnat ne— appointments. the review says that he failed _ appointments. the review says that he failed to _ appointments. the review says that he failed to properly tlsslose— that he failed to properly disclose his— that he failed to properly disclose his involvement in tasllltate— disclose his involvement in facilitate outing an £800,000 loan— facilitate outing an £800,000 loan guarantee _ facilitate outing an £800,000 loan guarantee for boris lonnson. — loan guarantee for boris johnson. mr— loan guarantee for boris johnson. mr sharp says the treasn— johnson. mr sharp says the treasn was— johnson. mr sharp says the breach was inadvertent , but johnson. mr sharp says the breach was inadvertent, but he's gulttlng— breach was inadvertent, but he's gulttlng to— breach was inadvertent, but he's quitting to prioritise the lnterests— quitting to prioritise the interests of _ quitting to prioritise the interests of the broadcaster . interests of the broadcaster. llteral— interests of the broadcaster. liberal democrats leader sir ed tawles— liberal democrats leader sir ed tawles says— liberal democrats leader sir ed davies says the— liberal democrats leader sir ed davies says the appointments poses— davies says the appointments poes neets— davies says the appointments process needs to— davies says the appointments process needs to be changed. i preter— process needs to be changed. i prefer an— process needs to be changed. i prefer an independent- process needs to be changed. i prefer an independent process and i absolutely believe there should be a hearing to check the appointment by the cross—party select committee in the house of commons for culture , media and commons for culture, media and sport. that's the only way torwart. — sport. that's the only way torwart. so— sport. that's the only way forward. so people- that's the only way forward. c.5“ that's the only way forward. c5“ forward. so people can have confidence just allowing it to be the prime minister say so just won't work anymore . well, just won't work anymore. well, however, prime minister- rlrcr“ c well, however, prime minister rishi sunak— however, prime minister rishi sunak says— however, prime minister rishi sunak says the— however, prime minister rishi sunak says the right process was tollowet— sunak says the right process was tollowet . — sunak says the right process was followed . this— sunak says the right process was followed . this is— sunak says the right process was followed . “ 2c “3

followed. this is about doing things properly and professionally and when concerns are raised, it's right that there is a proper process , an there is a proper process, an independent process that we don't prejudge. we allow it to carry on and establish the facts of what happened , reach a of what happened, reach a conclusion that's happened . conclusion that's happened. richard sharp has resigned . but richard sharp has resigned. but it's right that we do these things properly and professionally. think most professionally. i think most people that's people will think that that's the to do . florida the right thing to do. florida governor-desantis- the right thing to do. florida governor-desantis has. the right thing to do. florida. governor-desantis has met governor ron desantis has met wltn— governor ron desantis has met wltn rorelgn— governor ron desantis has met with foreign secretary james slewerly— with foreign secretary james slewerly ln— with foreign secretary james cleverly in london. . c cleverly in london. the uk visit is the last leg of the republican international tour aimed at enhancing his foreign policy credentials. yesterday, he was in israel. it's expected that mr desantis will run for the republican nomination in the 2024 presidential election . 70% 2024 presidential election. 70% of people in northern ireland think the good friday agreement has not delivered stable governance. that's according to a poll by a westminster committee . it found that major committee. it found that major changes are needed to restore the power sharing structures. unionists and nationalists can

currently veto policies that they don't agree with , which is they don't agree with, which is what the dup is doing over the post—brexit trade deal. a body has been discovered in the hunt for the partner of a pregnant teacher who was found dead in scotland . police have been scotland. police have been looking for 36 year old david yates in connection with the death of meryl sturrock at a home in glasgow on tuesday. the force says that while the body has not yet been formally identified, it's believed to be that of yates in sudan . the that of yates in sudan. the ceasefire between the paramilitary rapid support forces and the army has been extended for a further three days. the foreign secretary is calling on the two sides to fully implement the truce and says evacuation flights are ongoing. so far , british forces ongoing. so far, british forces have rescued almost 900 people. the government is urging those with british passports and visas to make their way to the airfield as quickly as possible . at least 17 people have been

killed as russian airstrikes hit key cities across . ukraine key cities across. ukraine well, two children are well, two children are among well, two children are among tnose— well, two children are among those killed— well, two children are among those killed and— well, two children are among those killed and nine people nawe— those killed and nine people nawe teen— those killed and nine people have been taken— those killed and nine people have been taken to hospital . have been taken to hospital. all tne— have been taken to hospital. all the attacks— have been taken to hospital. all the attacks come- have been taken to hospital. all the attacks come as- have been taken to hospital. all the attacks come as ukraine is set to launch an offensive with new military equipment suppued with new military equipment supplied by western allies. it follows a winter offensive where moscow has made little headway . moscow has made little headway. the national education union plans to reballot its members in state funded schools in england over further strike action. the vote in a dispute over pay will open on the 15th of may and close at the end of july . it close at the end of july. it follows an announcement this morning that head teachers in england will hold another vote on whether they will strike. well, meanwhile, members of the unite union in england have rejected the government's latest pay rejected the government's latest pay offer to nhs staff in their long running pay dispute just

over half of its members who took part , mostly ambulance and took part, mostly ambulance and junior health workers voted against a 5% pay increase. unite says planned strikes by more than 4000 nhs workers across england will now go ahead next week . more than 130,000 civil week. more than 130,000 civil servants are on strike in an ongoing dispute over pay and conditions. the walkout includes pubuc conditions. the walkout includes public and commercial services union members in 132 departments. the union has accused the government of waging an ideological war on its own workforce. however, the government says their demands are unaffordable . and the prince are unaffordable. and the prince and princess of wales have paid and princess of wales have paid an emotional visit to a welsh visit, a village rather, to remember the victims of the 1966 aberfan disaster. remember the victims of the 1966 aberfan disaster . 116 remember the victims of the 1966 aberfan disaster. 116 children and 28 adults were killed after and 28 adults were killed after a colliery spoil tip collapsed onto a school and neighbouring homes. william and kate visited

the aberfan memorial garden to pay the aberfan memorial garden to pay their respects . it's the pay their respects. it's the first time that the royal couple has been to the village . well, has been to the village. well, this is gb news. we'll- . 3 well, this is gb news. we'll bring you as lt— this is gb news. we'll bring you more as it happens. cdcc more as it happens. let's get task— more as it happens. let's get task to— more as it happens. let's get task to .— back to. patrick quick bit of back to. patrick- . quick bit of breaking back to. patrick— . quick bit of breaking news quick bit of breaking news right - quick bit of breaking news rlgntltne— - quick bit of breaking news rlgntltne top. — quick bit of breaking news right the top. members of the right at the top. members of the out — right at the top. members of the out _asseptet- right at the top. members of the gmb _ accepted the l gmb union have accepted the goswernrnen-t— gmb union have accepted the government's pay offer to health worersk lt— government's pay offer to health workers. it comes— government's pay offer to health workers. it comes after another unlte— workers. it comes after another union, unite rejected the latest pay union, unite rejected the latest pay otter.— union, unite rejected the latest pay otter. lust— union, unite rejected the latest pay offer. just one— union, unite rejected the latest pay offer. just one more time on war— pay offer. just one more time on ma treaklng— pay offer. just one more time on that breaking news. members of the that breaking news. members of tne ont— that breaking news. members of the gmb union— that breaking news. members of the gmb union have accepted the goswernrnen-t— the gmb union have accepted the gowernrnen-st pay— the gmb union have accepted the government's pay offer to health worersk lt— government's pay offer to health workers. it comes— government's pay offer to health workers. it comes after another unlte— workers. it comes after another union, unite rejected the latest pay union, unite rejected the latest pay otter— union, unite rejected the latest pay otter rlgnt— union, unite rejected the latest pay otter rlgnt .— union, unite rejected the latest pay offer right . okay. so moving pay offer right. okay. so moving on tron— pay offer right. okay. so moving on from war— pay offer right. okay. so moving on from that now,— pay offer right. okay. so moving on from that now, i— pay offer right. okay. so moving on from that now, i saw a huge amount— on from that now, i saw a huge amount .— on from that now, i saw a huge amount . a nuge— on from that now, i saw a huge amount, a huge amount of crime stones— amount, a huge amount of crime storles totay— amount, a huge amount of crime stories today, massively above aweraeg ant— stories today, massively above aweraeg ant a— stories today, massively above average. and a lot of them, well— average. and a lot of them, well easn— average. and a lot of them, well, each one— average. and a lot of them,

well, each one more shocking tnan— well, each one more shocking tnan tne— well, each one more shocking than the last,— well, each one more shocking than the last, really. there's a repon— than the last, really. there's a repon tnat-s— than the last, really. there's a report that's come— than the last, really. there's a report that's come out that says tnat— report that's come out that says tnat pollse— report that's come out that says that police are— report that's come out that says that police are only getting lusky— that police are only getting lusky lt— that police are only getting lusky lr tney— that police are only getting lucky if they catch killers, let alone— lucky if they catch killers, let alone-killers, - lucky if they catch killers, let alone killers, and that alone serial killers, and that tney-we— alone serial killers, and that tney-we not— alone serial killers, and that they've not learnt anything from tnelr— they've not learnt anything from tnelr-nate— they've not learnt anything from their- made _theyl their mistakes made when they w-eeto— their mistakes made when they w-ereto nunt— their mistakes made when they were _to hunt the - their mistakes made when they were to hunt the grinder were trying to hunt the grinder klller—tor- were trying to hunt the grinder killer—for long| killer or not hunt him for long enougn. — killer or not hunt him for long enougn. llt— killer or not hunt him for long enough. .it turned- killer or not hunt him for long enough. it turned out, 315 enough. as it turned out, 315 year— enough. as it turned out, 315 year olts— enough. as it turned out, 315 year olds apparently have been arrestet—ot- year olds apparently have beeni arrested—of murder arrested on suspicion of murder in arrested on suspicion of murder ln—rnere-s— arrested on suspicion of murder ln—rnere-s teen- in nuneaton. there's been a nurert— in nuneaton. there's been a murder-scotland- in nuneaton. there's been a murder scotland around 600 murder up in scotland around 600 to too— murder up in scotland around 600 to 700 burglaries— murder up in scotland around 600 to 700 burglaries a— murder up in scotland around 600 to 700 burglaries a day. go unsolwet— to 700 burglaries a day. go unsolved. and— to 700 burglaries a day. go unsolved. and it- to 700 burglaries a day. go unsolved. and it just got me tnlnklng— unsolved. and it just got me tnlnklng .— unsolved. and it just got me thinking, what— unsolved. and it just got me thinking, what on earth is going on? thinking, what on earth is going one are— thinking, what on earth is going one are we— thinking, what on earth is going on? are we living— thinking, what on earth is going on? are we living now in lawless trltalne— on? are we living now in lawless trltalne to— on? are we living now in lawless trltalne to you— on? are we living now in lawless britain? do you feel— on? are we living now in lawless britain? do you feel as though, frankly.— britain? do you feel as though, rrankly. you — britain? do you feel as though, rrankly. you are— britain? do you feel as though, frankly, you are not safe on the streets— frankly, you are not safe on the streets or— frankly, you are not safe on the streets of britain?— frankly, you are not safe on the streets of britain? another one to top — streets of britain? another one to top lt— streets of britain? another one to top lt all— streets of britain? another one to top it all off— streets of britain? another one to top it all off as— streets of britain? another one to top it all off as well, in manchester,— to top it all off as well, in manchester, apparently there's a tloke— manchester, apparently there's a tloke wno-s— manchester, apparently there's a bloke who's been— manchester, apparently there's a bloke who's been going around attasklng— bloke who's been going around attacking people— bloke who's been going around attacking people crowbar. attacking people with a crowbar. rollse— attacking people with a crowbar. police - understand - attacking people with a crowbar. police understand it so police as we understand it so far:— police as we understand it so p... are— police as we understand it so far, are no closer— police as we understand it so far, are no closer to catching tln— far, are no closer to catching nln. people— far, are no closer to catching him. people are— far, are no closer to catching him. people are living in fear. wnat— him. people are living in fear. wnatlnappenlng— him. people are living in fear. what happening streets what is happening on the streets of_we- of britain? that's before we starlet— of britain? that's before we started-about- of britain? that's before we started about gang started talking about gang suture.— started talking about gang culture, infiltrating and culture, just infiltrating and polsonlng— poisoning young minds and teenagers— poisoning young minds and teenagers walking around with nasnetes— teenagers walking around with machetes-swords- teenagers walking around with machetes swords and prepared machetes and swords and prepared to use— machetes and swords and prepared to tnen— machetes and swords and prepared to tnen as— machetes and swords and prepared to use them as well. _ machetes and swords and prepared to use them as well. let's talk now:— to use them as well. let's talk tnougn— to use them as well. let's talk tnougn .— to use them as well. let's talk now, though , about this shocking now, though, about this shocking report— now, though, about this shocking report-to— now, though, about this shocking repon-to wet— now, though, about this shocking report to met begin report into the to met begin wltn. — report into the to met begin wltn. .tney—

report into the to met begin with. .they - been . report into the to met begin- with. .they - been accused with. and they have been accused of with. and they have been accused ot—ot- of a calamitous litany of tallures— of a calamitous litany of failures after— of a calamitous litany of failures after a- of a calamitous litany of failures after a serial killer nurteret— failures after a serial killer murdered four— failures after a serial killer murdered four men. stephen poor net— murdered four men. stephen poor net tls— murdered four men. stephen poor met his victims— murdered four men. stephen poor met his victims on— murdered four men. stephen poor met his victims on dating sites . lnslutlng— met his victims on dating sites . lnslutlng tne— met his victims on dating sites , including the gay dating app srlntr— , including the gay dating app srlntr .— , including the gay dating app srlntr . ant— , including the gay dating app grindr . and the— , including the gay dating app grindr . and the report says that grindr. and the report says that tesplte— grindr. and the report says that despite-obvious— grindr. and the report says that despite obvious links despite the obvious links tetween— despite the obvious links between cases, wasn't between the cases, it wasn't untll— between the cases, it wasn't untll tne— between the cases, it wasn't until the fourth— between the cases, it wasn't until the fourth murder victim's toty— until the fourth murder victim's toty was— until the fourth murder victim's body was found— until the fourth murder victim's body was found that police reallset— body was found that police realised they— body was found that police realised they could have been klllet— realised they could have been klllet ty— realised they could have been killed by-same_ realised they could have been killed by same person and killed by the same person and the killed by the same person and tne pollse— killed by the same person and the police watchdog warns that nlstory— the police watchdog warns that nlstory soult— the police watchdog warns that history could repeat itself. i tnls— history could repeat itself. i mean, this is— history could repeat itself. i mean, this is a— history could repeat itself. i mean, this is a really soselnng- mean, this is a really concerning bit, isn't it? tesause— concerning bit, isn't it? because officers apparently aren-t— because officers apparently aren't investigating aren't properly investigating unexpestet— aren't properly investigating unexpected or— aren't properly investigating unexpected or unexplained teatts— unexpected or unexplained deaths. and _ unexpected or unexplained deaths. and this is a massive protlen — deaths. and this is a massive problem when— deaths. and this is a massive problem when it— deaths. and this is a massive problem when it comes to ltentlrylng— problem when it comes to identifying if— problem when it comes to identifying if there is a serial klller— identifying if there is a serial klller out— identifying if there is a serial killer out there. _ identifying if there is a serial killer out there. for example, let-s— killer out there. for example, let-s no— killer out there. for example, let's now speak— killer out there. for example, let's now speak to our london reporter— let's now speak to our london reponer llsa— let's now speak to our london reporter lisa hartle , who's at reporter lisa hartle, who's at wew— reporter lisa hartle, who's at new scotland— reporter lisa hartle, who's at new scotland yard for us. i tnlnk— new scotland yard for us. i tnlnk tne— new scotland yard for us. i think the public have a right to be think the public have a right to te wery— think the public have a right to be very concerned— think the public have a right to be very concerned by the tlntlngs— be very concerned by the rlntlngs ot— be very concerned by the findings of this report. lisa, soult— findings of this report. lisa, soult you— findings of this report. lisa, could you just— findings of this report. lisa, could you just run us through wen.— could you just run us through tnen. please— could you just run us through them, please ?_ could you just run us through them, please ? so obviously, the them, please? so obviously, the report— them, please? so obviously, the repon looket— them, please? so obviously, the report looked into— them, please? so obviously, the report looked into how the met teals— report looked into how the met teals wltn— report looked into how the met deals with deaths— report looked into how the met deals with deaths after the case of deals with deaths after the case or stepnen— deals with deaths after the case of stephen port,— deals with deaths after the case of stephen port, the serial klller— of stephen port, the serial klller wno— of stephen port, the serial killer who killed four men

tetween— killer who killed four men between 2014 _ killer who killed four men between 2014 and 2015. the report— between 2014 and 2015. the report ws— between 2014 and 2015. the report was commissioned by the mayor of london after an inquest into their deaths found that fundamental failures by police were likely to have contributed contributed to the deaths of three of the men. the report found that the met had made some improvements since the port case, including better working arrangements between officers and murder investigation teams. but inspectors found that some police officers admit that they still rely on luck to be able to link one death to another for the inspection reviewed investigations into 100 deaths and found evidence of things such as poor training, supervision and handling of property and evidence . there was property and evidence. there was also an example of vital evidence being found in a mortuary after an officer failed to the pockets of somebody to check the pockets of somebody that deceased. that had been found deceased. inspector of constabulary matt parr said the result the force's resources are stretched and there is a young , inexperienced there is a young, inexperienced workforce . when asked if the met workforce. when asked if the met was missing murders, he told reporters, i don't know. considering the number of unexpected deaths, it seems to

me likely, if not certain , that me likely, if not certain, that among the deaths that they do not classify as homicide , that not classify as homicide, that there are some in response to this. the met assistant commissioner louisa rolfe, said that the force is sincere in our desire to make real change, to minimise the chance of a case like this ever happening again. she added we know we fell short in this case and the families did not get the service they needed or deserved. it is important we look again at this area to see what more we can do to support families. we will fully consider the recommendations made and ensure these are not just fully addressed, but embedded into our working practises as yeah. lisa thank you very, very much. lisa hartle is outside side- thank you very, very much. lisa hartle is outside side new- hartle is outside side new ssotlant— hartle is outside side new scotland yard— hartle is outside side new scotland yard for us and that is a tlg— scotland yard for us and that is a tlg one— scotland yard for us and that is a big one because— scotland yard for us and that is a big one because it identifies tnat— a big one because it identifies tnat wewe— a big one because it identifies tnat got— a big one because it identifies that we've got a— a big one because it identifies that we've got a young, inexperienced - that we've got a young, inexperienced police force and wat— inexperienced police force and tar tney— inexperienced police force and tar tney are— inexperienced police force and that they are essentially relylng— that they are essentially relylng on— that they are essentially relying on luck in order to solwe— relying on luck in order to solve crimes.— relying on luck in order to solve crimes. and it's not just tne— solve crimes. and it's not just tne tlg— solve crimes. and it's not just tne tlg ones— solve crimes. and it's not just the big ones. the— solve crimes. and it's not just the big ones. the murders, the serlal— the big ones. the murders, the serial killers— the big ones. the murders, the serial killers out— the big ones. the murders, the serial killers out there. it is tne— serial killers out there. it is tne tast— serial killers out there. it is the fact that— serial killers out there. it is the fact that we _ serial killers out there. it is the fact that we now have around 6 the fact that we now have around so to— the fact that we now have around so to too— the fact that we now have around 6 to 700 burglaries— the fact that we now have around

6 to 700 burglaries a day that are 6 to 700 burglaries a day that golng— 6 to 700 burglaries a day that are going unsolved and around 77%— are going unsolved and around 77%-sass— are going unsolved and around 77%.cases.the_ are going unsolved and around 77% cases the case is just 77% of cases is the case is just sloset— 77% of cases is the case is just closed without— 77% of cases is the case is just closed without anyone even being suspestet— closed without anyone even being suspected-burglary- closed without anyone even being suspected burglary . so, suspected of that burglary. so, agaln— suspected of that burglary. so, agaln-lust— suspected of that burglary. so, again, just wondering now , again, i'm just wondering now, do again, i'm just wondering now, to we— again, i'm just wondering now, to we-ln— again, i'm just wondering now, to we-ln a— again, i'm just wondering now, do we-in a society- again, i'm just wondering now, do we in a society where if do we live in a society where if you— do we live in a society where if you wee— do we live in a society where if you were-ot— do we live in a society where if you were .of the _ do we live in a society where if you were of the view of you were are of the view of telng— you were are of the view of telng a— you were are of the view of being a serious— you were are of the view of being a serious criminal, you protatly— being a serious criminal, you probably would— being a serious criminal, you probably would fancy your chances-there. probably would fancy your chances. there was probably would fancy your- chances.-there was this chances. but then there was this story— chances. but then there was this story-wastr— chances. but then there was this story _wasn't there,- story as well, wasn't there, tnat— story as well, wasn't there, tnat troppet— story as well, wasn't there, that dropped on. and that dropped earlier on. and it's that dropped earlier on. and lt-s tnree— that dropped earlier on. and it's three teenagers who've been arrestet—ot- it's three teenagers who've been arrested—of murder| arrested on suspicion of murder alter— arrested on suspicion of murder alter a— arrested on suspicion of murder alter a-walker— arrested on suspicion of murder after a walker died. this after a dog walker died. this week.— after a dog walker died. this week. pg— after a dog walker died. this week. 215 year— after a dog walker died. this week. 215 year old boys and a 15 year— week. 215 year old boys and a 15 year olt— week. 215 year old boys and a 15 year olt glrl— week. 215 year old boys and a 15 year old girl were— week. 215 year old boys and a 15 year old girl were arrested . and year old girl were arrested. and pollse— year old girl were arrested. and pollse nawe— year old girl were arrested. and police have now— year old girl were arrested. and police have now named the victim , police have now named the victim .ronn— police have now named the victim rjohb haskell.— police have now named the victim , john hackett, who— police have now named the victim , john hackett, who was 36 years of , john hackett, who was 36 years or age— , john hackett, who was 36 years or age .— , john hackett, who was 36 years or age . ln— , john hackett, who was 36 years or age . l-n golng— , john hackett, who was 36 years of age . i'm going to take us of age. i'm going to take us over now to jack— of age. i'm going to take us over now to jack carson, who is west— over now to jack carson, who is our west midlands— over now to jack carson, who is our west midlands reporter. he's in our west midlands reporter. he's ln nuneaton— our west midlands reporter. he's in nuneaton for— our west midlands reporter. he's in nuneaton for us.— our west midlands reporter. he's in nuneaton for us. i mean, rag.— in nuneaton for us. i mean, jackr tnls— in nuneaton for us. i mean, jackr tnls ls— in nuneaton for us. i mean, jack, this is an— in nuneaton for us. i mean, jack, this is an absolutely snosklng— jack, this is an absolutely shocking case.— jack, this is an absolutely shocking case. well, good atternoon. — shocking case. well, good afternoon. _ shocking case. well, good afternoon. c shocking case. well, good- afternoon. patchy that's exactly right. and police afternoon. c c 23“ and police presence afternoon. c c 2 3“ and police presence here right. and police presence here in right. and police presence here ln ln— right. and police presence here in in nuneaton— right. and police presence here in in nuneaton just— 2 3“ and police presence here in in nuneaton just outside this just in in nuneaton just outside this lust outslte— in in nuneaton just outside this just outside the— in in nuneaton just outside this just outside the snowhill recreation _ just outside the snowhill recreation park has increased tranatlsally— recreation park has increased dramatically quite in the last nour— dramatically quite in the last row or— dramatically quite in the last row or a— dramatically quite in the last hour or so. a team of forensic expens— hour or so. a team of forensic experts nawe— hour or so. a team of forensic experts have entered the home in wnlsn—

experts have entered the home in wnlsn on— experts have entered the home in which on wednesday morning 36 year— which on wednesday morning 36 year olt— which on wednesday morning 36 year olt jobb— which on wednesday morning 36 year old john hackett was found teat— year old john hackett was found teat aount— year old john hackett was found dead around 8:00pm, we think by his dead around 8:00pm, we think by nls notten— dead around 8:00pm, we think by nls notner. lt— dead around 8:00pm, we think by his mother. it was— dead around 8:00pm, we think by his mother. it was tuesday, 6:15 pm.— his mother. it was tuesday, 6:15 pm. wnen— his mother. it was tuesday, 6:15 pm. wnen ne— his mother. it was tuesday, 6:15 pm. when he was— his mother. it was tuesday, 6:15 pm. when he was taking his dog out p.m. when he was taking his dog out tor— p.m. when he was taking his dog out tor a— p.m. when he was taking his dog out tor a walk— p.m. when he was taking his dog out for a walk in— pm. when he was taking his dog out for a walk in the snow hill resreatlon— out for a walk in the snow hill recreation park— out for a walk in the snow hill recreation park just over my snoulter. — recreation park just over my shoulder. when— recreation park just over my shoulder. when it's alleged that he shoulder. when it's alleged that ne was— shoulder. when it's alleged that he was assaulted— shoulder. when it's alleged that he was assaulted by three teenage— he was assaulted by three teenage agers._ he was assaulted by three teenage agers. those three were all ten— teenage agers. those three were all then arrested _ teenage agers. those three were all then arrested or three people.— all then arrested or three people.tnree— all then arrested or three people, three teenagers, rather, were arrested _ people, three teenagers, rather, were arrested in— people, three teenagers, rather, were arrested in connection with his were arrested in connection with nls teatn— were arrested in connection with nls teatn on— were arrested in connection with his death on wednesday evening. they— his death on wednesday evening. lney all— his death on wednesday evening. they all remain— his death on wednesday evening. they all remain currently still in they all remain currently still ln sustoty— they all remain currently still in custody two— they all remain currently still in custody two days on after war— in custody two days on after tnat lnltlal— in custody two days on after that initial arrest, they are telng— that initial arrest, they are being questioned by warwickshire pollse— being questioned by warwickshire pollse ln— being questioned by warwickshire pollse ln ln— being questioned by warwickshire police in in within— being questioned by warwickshire police in in within this investigation- police in in within this investigation version. we don't really— investigation version. we don't really know— investigation version. we don't really know too— investigation version. we don't really know too much of the teat— really know too much of the detail around _ really know too much of the detail around the actual assault ltselt— detail around the actual assault ltselt lnat-s— detail around the actual assault itself. that's one— detail around the actual assault itself. that's one of the reasons why,- itself. that's one of the reasons why, of course, forensic teams— reasons why, of course, forensic teans stlll— reasons why, of course, forensic teams are still searching the park— teams are still searching the park ant— teams are still searching the park ant tne— teams are still searching the park and the house. but we do know— park and the house. but we do know wat— park and the house. but we do know tnat we— park and the house. but we do know that we think it was astually— know that we think it was actually filmed and also put on soslal— actually filmed and also put on soslal netla— actually filmed and also put on social media as— actually filmed and also put on social media as well. we also tnlnk— social media as well. we also tnrnk john— social media as well. we also think john hackett was able to essape— think john hackett was able to esape tron — think john hackett was able to escape from that— think john hackett was able to escape from that assault and make— escape from that assault and make lt— escape from that assault and make lt task— escape from that assault and make it back to— escape from that assault and make it back to his house, wnee— make it back to his house, wnee ot— make it back to his house, where, of course, he was then

fount— where, of course, he was then tount ln— where, of course, he was then tount ln tne— where, of course, he was then found in the morning and sadly pronounset— found in the morning and sadly pronounced dead.— found in the morning and sadly pronounced dead. now, tributes to john— pronounced dead. now, tributes to lonn nawe— pronounced dead. now, tributes to john have already been making tnelr— to john have already been making tnelr way— to john have already been making their way already— to john have already been making their way already social their way already onto social netla— their way already onto social netla wltn— their way already onto social media with one— their way already onto social media with one friend saying 20 years— media with one friend saying 20 years or— media with one friend saying 20 years of friendship— media with one friend saying 20 years of friendship has been taken— years of friendship has been taken away— years of friendship has been taken away until we meet again . taken away until we meet again. anotner— taken away until we meet again. another neighbour— taken away until we meet again. another neighbour finding concern , of— another neighbour finding concern , of course, for the concern, of course, for the mower— concern, of course, for the note or— concern, of course, for the note or wr— concern, of course, for the mother of mr hackett, who it's tnougnt— mother of mr hackett, who it's tnougnt john— mother of mr hackett, who it's thought john looked after and stret— thought john looked after and saret tor— thought john looked after and cared for her.— thought john looked after and cared for her. now the investigating officer in this case, detective— investigating officer in this case, detective inspector sollette— case, detective inspector collette o'keefe , said that a collette o'keefe, said that a nurnter— collette o'keefe, said that a nurnter ot— collette o'keefe, said that a number of enquiries were surrently— number of enquiries were currently underway and they woult— currently underway and they would continue. _ currently underway and they would continue. but there also of course, asking— would continue. but there also of course, asking the public for any— of course, asking the public for any information— of course, asking the public for any information that they may nawe.— any information that they may nawe-lls— any information that they may have, it's dashcam have, whether it's dashcam footage— have, whether it's dashcam footage-lls- have, whether it's dashcam l footage-it's photos, footage, whether it's photos, were— footage, whether it's photos, wnetner—to - footage, whether it's photos, whether—to get. footage, whether it's photos, whether to get in whether it's videos to get in tousn — whether it's videos to get in tousn wltn— whether it's videos to get in touch with warwickshire police salllng — touch with warwickshire police salllng lor— touch with warwickshire police calling 101 and— touch with warwickshire police calling 101 and quoting the lnsltent— calling 101 and quoting the incident number 90 on the 26th of incident number 90 on the 26th or aprll — incident number 90 on the 26th or aprll. lney— incident number 90 on the 26th or aprll. lney to— incident number 90 on the 26th of april. they do recognise that tnls— of april. they do recognise that we ls— of april. they do recognise that we ls a— of april. they do recognise that this is a concerning incident, tut— this is a concerning incident, tut tne— this is a concerning incident, but the police— this is a concerning incident, but the police here are treating tnls— but the police here are treating we as— but the police here are treating this as isolated— but the police here are treating this as isolated and they have got sonnunlty— this as isolated and they have got community officers here and aount— got community officers here and aount tne— got community officers here and around the park— got community officers here and around the park to— got community officers here and around the park to try and reassure the— around the park to try and reassure the public and answer any— reassure the public and answer any guestlons— reassure the public and answer any questions. but officers will ln— any questions. but officers will remain in this— any questions. but officers will remain in this area over the

sonlng— remain in this area over the sonlng weeks— remain in this area over the coming weeks. and as i nentlonet— coming weeks. and as i mentioned, we there's been no formal— mentioned, we there's been no formal snarge— mentioned, we there's been no formal charge to— mentioned, we there's been no formal charge to anyone in this lnwestlgatlon— formal charge to anyone in this investigation so— formal charge to anyone in this investigation so far. but three teenagers— investigation so far. but three teenagers lls— investigation so far. but three teenagers, 115 year old girl and 215 teenagers, 115 year old girl and alt year— teenagers, 115 year old girl and st year olt— teenagers, 115 year old girl and 215 year old boys— teenagers, 115 year old girl and 215 year old boys do remain in sustoty— 215 year old boys do remain in custody while— 215 year old boys do remain in custody while the _ 215 year old boys do remain in custody while the police investigate _ custody while the police investigate this case. c investigate this case. jack, thank— investigate this case. jack, thank you— investigate this case. jack, thank you wary— investigate this case. jack, thank you very much. jack carson there in nuneaton . and look, there in nuneaton. and look, here we go, some more breaking news for you now as we talk about potentially lawless britain is of about potentially lawless brit stories is of about potentially lawless brit stories i is of about potentially lawless brit stories i spoke is of about potentially lawless brit stories i spoke about of about potentially lawless brit stories i spoke about a of about potentially lawless brit stories i spoke about a few the stories i spoke about a few moments ago. a body found by police investigate of police investigate the murder of pregnant morale. pregnant teacher morale. sturrock formally sturrock has now been formally identified of her identified as that of her partner , david yates. this has partner, david yates. this has just come through us here. he just come through to us here. he was man officers were was the man officers were seeking with seeking in connection with her death morrell her home death. morrell died at her home in glasgow on tuesday morning. so, that breaking news for so, yep, that breaking news for you again there , which is that a you again there, which is that a body found by police investigating murder of a investigating the murder of a pregnant teacher, morale struck has been formally identified as that of her partner, david yates. he was the officers yates. he was the man officers were seeking connection with were seeking in connection with her died at her her death. amaral died at her home on tuesday home in glasgow on tuesday morning. now, i was doing a segment. there wasn't i, on

lawless president, tying all of these things together . we've had these things together. we've had police seemingly relying on luck to catch serial killers and not, it would appear, able to proactively do that with a young , inexperienced workforce. we've had a very concerning case at the jack carson has just outlined for us in nuneaton, and we've just had that one there, a pregnant teacher murdered and her the police were her partner who the police were looking connection looking for in connection with it. has now been found, it. his body has now been found, 800 a day around that 800 burglaries a day around that number being solved. i've number not being solved. i've also a guy apparently also got a guy who's apparently on manchester who's on the loose in manchester who's been the loose in manchester, been on the loose in manchester, regular crowbar attacks in the gay manchester. there gay area in manchester. there again, people in fear. again, people living in fear. joining criminal joining me now is criminal psychologist david holmes psychologist dr. david holmes and dr. david, i can't help but wonder whether or not the criminal mind at the moment must feel as though they've got a bit of a free pass. what is going on? the situation actually on? is the situation actually getting worse? people of getting worse? are people of a criminal now likely criminal bent now more likely to act it? i criminal bent now more likely to act it ? i think criminal bent now more likely to act it? i think things are act on it? i think things are gettlng— act on it? i think things are gettlng a— act on it? i think things are getting a little— act on it? i think things are getting a little bit- 5c. c?’ i think things are getting a little bit worse, you nlgnt— getting a little bit worse, you nlgnt say.— getting a little bit worse, you might say, although we have astually— might say, although we have astually got— might say, although we have actually got proportionately an awful— actually got proportionately an awful lot—

actually got proportionately an awful lot less— actually got proportionately an awful lot less serial killers in tne— awful lot less serial killers in tne rests.— awful lot less serial killers in the 1980s. we— awful lot less serial killers in the 1980s. we had, what, 800 say in the 1980s. we had, what, 800 say ln anerlsa. — the 1980s. we had, what, 800 say in america. now— the 1980s. we had, what, 800 say in america. now we're down to atout— in america. now we're down to atout loo. — in america. now we're down to about 100. it's— in america. now we're down to about 100. it's less— in america. now we're down to about 100. it's less of a task if about 100. it's less of a task lt you— about 100. it's less of a task lr you we — about100. it's less of a task if you like. but— about 100. it's less of a task if you like. but as- about 100. it's less of a task if you like. but as you say , the if you like. but as you say, the well— if you like. but as you say, the well directing— if you like. but as you say, the well directing competence in many— well directing competence in many ot— well directing competence in many cases of the police to act wnen— many cases of the police to act wnen tney— many cases of the police to act when they should— many cases of the police to act when they should act and perhaps nawe— when they should act and perhaps nawe astlng— when they should act and perhaps have acting when— when they should act and perhaps have acting when they don't need to ast— have acting when they don't need to act, becoming— have acting when they don't need to act, becoming overly be saretul— to act, becoming overly be careful about— to act, becoming overly be careful about detail and missing the careful about detail and missing tne nan— careful about detail and missing tne pole— careful about detail and missing the main point, if— careful about detail and missing the main point, if you like , as the main point, if you like, as in the main point, if you like, as ln tne— the main point, if you like, as in the stephen— the main point, if you like, as in the stephen port case. i mean, you've got a disorganised, you san-t— mean, you've got a disorganised, you set get— mean, you've got a disorganised, you can't get much— mean, you've got a disorganised, you can't get much more disorganised— you can't get much more disorganised killer than someone who disorganised killer than someone wno leawes— disorganised killer than someone who leaves the— disorganised killer than someone who leaves the body on their toorstep. — who leaves the body on their doorstep. this— who leaves the body on their doorstep. this is— who leaves the body on their doorstep. this is this is an outrage— doorstep. this is this is an outrage to— doorstep. this is this is an outrage to police investing natlon— outrage to police investing natlon. ant— outrage to police investing nation. and he— outrage to police investing nation. and he comes into the less— nation. and he comes into the less tnan— nation. and he comes into the less than dead— nation. and he comes into the less than dead category, if you llke— less than dead category, if you llke .— less than dead category, if you llke . wnlsn— less than dead category, if you like , which in— less than dead category, if you like , which in the— less than dead category, if you like , which in the case of the like, which in the case of the mg.— like, which in the case of the ma, r— like, which in the case of the ma, r tnlnk— like, which in the case of the met, i think is— like, which in the case of the met, i think is unnecessary. the less— met, i think is unnecessary. the less tnan— met, i think is unnecessary. the less than dead— met, i think is unnecessary. the less than dead bit— met, i think is unnecessary. the less than dead bit comes from the less than dead bit comes from tne wexlsan— less than dead bit comes from the mexican border where poor lntlwltuals— the mexican border where poor individuals prostitute . it's individuals prostitute. it's a klnt— individuals prostitute. it's a klnt ot— individuals prostitute. it's a klnt ot tunp— individuals prostitute. it's a kind of dump and they're not really— kind of dump and they're not really investing— kind of dump and they're not really investing because they're not lnponant— really investing because they're not lnponant .— really investing because they're not important . they're less than not important. they're less than teat.— not important. they're less than teat. ant— not important. they're less than teat. ant ln— not important. they're less than dead. and in this— not important. they're less than dead. and in this case, the pollse—

dead. and in this case, the pollse lust— dead. and in this case, the police just assumed that this wsn-t— police just assumed that this wasn't an important murder case. but wasn't an important murder case. tut an— wasn't an important murder case. tut l— wasn't an important murder case. tut l ask— wasn't an important murder case. tut l ask you— wasn't an important murder case. but can i ask you the— wasn't an important murder case. but can i ask you the psychology of someone who goes on and not just thinks about committing these crimes, but actually does it? and i'm going to ask you a very broad question here, because i think a lot of people wouldn't walk around wouldn't want to walk around carrying because they wouldn't want to walk around carryin have because they wouldn't want to walk around carryin have no because they wouldn't want to walk around carryin have no intention they wouldn't want to walk around carryinhave no intention ofey wouldn't want to walk around carryinhave no intention of using would have no intention of using it and also wouldn't to it and also wouldn't want to get caught it. people, caught with it. most people, i dare you know, might look in dare say you know, might look in their neighbour's window and think they've got a lovely telly, it telly, but they won't nick it because morally stops because something morally stops them they wouldn't them doing it and they wouldn't want to get caught for it. a lot of people don't go out and commit violent because commit violent acts because again, to, commit violent acts because again, to, but again, they don't want to, but also that fear of also there's that fear of getting for now, getting caught for it. now, though, does that fear of getting caught simply not exist? it's that it doesn't exist. getting caught simply not exist? it'existsthat it doesn't exist. getting caught simply not exist? it'existsthathe doesn't exist. getting caught simply not exist? it'existsthathe mindst exist. getting caught simply not exist? it'existsthathe mindst elmany it exists in the minds of many people— it exists in the minds of many people wno— it exists in the minds of many people who basically law , people who basically the law, the people who basically the law, tne law— people who basically the law, the law abiders_ people who basically the law, the law abiders anyway , but your the law abiders anyway, but your law treakers— the law abiders anyway, but your law breakers and— the law abiders anyway, but your law breakers and you're more klnt— law breakers and you're more klnt ot— law breakers and you're more kind of professional law treakers— kind of professional law breakers never consider that tney— breakers never consider that tney nee— breakers never consider that they never really consider that tney-re— they never really consider that tney-re golng— they never really consider that tney-re golng to— they never really consider that they're going to get caught. and tnose— they're going to get caught. and tnose tnat— they're going to get caught. and those that perhaps are the more

. tne— those that perhaps are the more serious , the serial— those that perhaps are the more serious , the serial killers, serious, the serial killers, etsetera— serious, the serial killers, etsetera .— serious, the serial killers, etsetera . go— serious, the serial killers, etcetera , go to- serious, the serial killers, etcetera , go to reasonable etcetera, go to reasonable extent— etcetera, go to reasonable extent .— etcetera, go to reasonable extent . lt— etcetera, go to reasonable extent , if you— etcetera, go to reasonable extent , if you like, to make extent, if you like, to make tnat— extent, if you like, to make sure that they're not going to get saugtt— sure that they're not going to get saugnt. lney— sure that they're not going to get caught. they don't feel any gulls— get caught. they don't feel any gullt. lney— get caught. they don't feel any guilt. they don't— get caught. they don't feel any guilt. they don't feel any enpatny— guilt. they don't feel any enpatny ror— guilt. they don't feel any empathy for victims. therefore, tney— empathy for victims. therefore, tney ton-t— empathy for victims. therefore, they don't actually present themselves— they don't actually present themselves as— they don't actually present themselves as looking guilty in any way.— themselves as looking guilty in any way. stape— themselves as looking guilty in any way. snape or— themselves as looking guilty in any way, shape or form. so that tltterent— any way, shape or form. so that different people— any way, shape or form. so that different people committing tltterent— different people committing different levels of crime . but different levels of crime. but tne— different levels of crime. but across the board— different levels of crime. but across the board , people across the board, people sonnlttlng— across the board, people committing burglaries , very committing burglaries, very new— committing burglaries, very likely, unlikely— committing burglaries, very likely, unlikely to get invested , even know and— likely, unlikely to get invested , even know and people committing— , even know and people committing very serious crimes. lne— committing very serious crimes. tne pollse— committing very serious crimes. lne pollse ur— committing very serious crimes. the police run around in circles ant— the police run around in circles ant lss— the police run around in circles and miss them. _ the police run around in circles and miss them. talk to me about upbringing, dr. david. a lot of people, including myself at times, throw it out there that well, you know what, it's the fault of parents. you have raised not in some raised or not raised in some cases kids. is there any cases feral kids. is there any truth there's very , truth to that? there's very, very little truth to that. you can bring kids up in- very little truth to that. you can bring kids up in a- c you can bring kids up in a rough, trutal— can bring kids up in a rough, brutal manner— can bring kids up in a rough, brutal manner and you can trutallse— brutal manner and you can brutalise them,— brutal manner and you can brutalise them, if you like, deliberately _ brutalise them, if you like, deliberately to _ brutalise them, if you like, deliberately to force them to be stant — deliberately to force them to be stant up— deliberately to force them to be stant up or— deliberately to force them to be stand up for themselves. and, you— stand up for themselves. and, you know.— stand up for themselves. and, you know, become soldiers, etsetera. — you know, become soldiers, etcetera. but— you know, become soldiers, etcetera. but it— you know, become soldiers, etcetera. but it really doesn't work. —

etcetera. but it really doesn't work. lt— etcetera. but it really doesn't work. it often— etcetera. but it really doesn't work. it often backfires. snlltren— work. it often backfires. children who - work. it often backfires. children who are abused often do not go— children who are abused often do not go to— children who are abused often do not go to on— children who are abused often do not go to on abuse— children who are abused often do not go to on abuse others. you know.— not go to on abuse others. you know. tney— not go to on abuse others. you know. tney to— not go to on abuse others. you know. tney to go— not go to on abuse others. you know, they do go to the nth tegree— know, they do go to the nth tegree to— know, they do go to the nth degree to avoid— know, they do go to the nth degree to avoid doing that. and wnat— degree to avoid doing that. and wnat you— degree to avoid doing that. and wnat you to— degree to avoid doing that. and what you do have— degree to avoid doing that. and what you do have a personality types— what you do have a personality types tnat— what you do have a personality types tnat are— what you do have a personality types that are they're often tron— types that are they're often from tay— types that are they're often from tay one— types that are they're often from day one and they disrupt tnelr— from day one and they disrupt tnelr on— from day one and they disrupt their own childhood. they tesoe— their own childhood. they tesoe lt— their own childhood. they become, if you - their own childhood. they become, if you like, that child tnat— become, if you like, that child that becomes— become, if you like, that child that becomes hit— become, if you like, that child that becomes hit that that child tnat— that becomes hit that that child tnat astually— that becomes hit that that child that actually destroys relationships and they're the tnat— relationships and they're the ones that will— relationships and they're the ones that will go to on commit tne— ones that will go to on commit tne nost— ones that will go to on commit the most serious— ones that will go to on commit the most serious crimes or pernaps— the most serious crimes or perhaps become ceos of big tuslnesses— perhaps become ceos of big businesses or— perhaps become ceos of big businesses or become ceos of big tuslesses — businesses or become ceos of big businesses. good— businesses or become ceos of big businesses. c: q2 �*fxlccc businesses. good grief. well, there you go. dr. david, thank you very much. criminal psychologist dr. david holmes there, just whizzing you through a very, very a series of very, very, very concerning stories that we led with about that lawless with there about that lawless britain, really murders left, right and centre. man hunts, left, right and centre. you've got the police essentially relying on luck. it appears to catch and then you're lower catch it and then you're lower level you've just level stuff. but if you've just been it's not lower

been burgled, it's not lower level for you, is it? it's probably the most important thing life. and how thing in your life. and how do you feel there's apparently a 77% chance, basically, that if someone house someone breaks into your house and something, police and makes something, the police won't even find a suspect when it to that. but moving on, it comes to that. but moving on, tory donor richard has tory donor richard sharp has resigned now as bbc chairman. but lefties at the beeb but will any lefties at the beeb follow him out of the door ? i'm follow him out of the door? i'm patrick christys on gb news britain's

, leading live across the uk. tnls— , leading live across the uk. rtls ls— , leading live across the uk. rtls ls st— , leading live across the uk. this is gb news— , leading live across the uk. this is gb news radio- , leading live across the uk. this is gb news radio .- , leading live across the uk. this is gb news radio . yeah. this is gb news radio. yeah. welcome back. so the bbc salnrnan— welcome back. so the bbc chairman, richard- c c so the bbc chairman, richard sharp, has reslgnet— chairman, richard sharp, has resigned from _ chairman, richard sharp, has resigned from his role and he fount— resigned from his role and he was found to _ resigned from his role and he was found to have broken the rules— was found to have broken the rules ty— was found to have broken the rules by failing— was found to have broken the rules by failing to disclose his role— rules by failing to disclose his role ln— rules by failing to disclose his role ln gettlng— rules by failing to disclose his role in getting boris johnson an tsoeooo— role in getting boris johnson an £800,000 loan— role in getting boris johnson an £800,000 loan guarantee . sharp £800,000 loan guarantee. sharp wlll— £800,000 loan guarantee. sharp wlll slant— £800,000 loan guarantee. sharp will stand down— £800,000 loan guarantee. sharp will stand down at— £800,000 loan guarantee. sharp will stand down at the end of tune — will stand down at the end of tune lolnlng— will stand down at the end of june. joining me— will stand down at the end of june. joining me to discuss this is june. joining me to discuss this ls st— june. joining me to discuss this ls st wews— june. joining me to discuss this is gb news presenter calvin kotlnson— is gb news presenter calvin robinson and— is gb news presenter calvin robinson and former bbc tournallst— robinson and former bbc journalist tim— robinson and former bbc journalist tim lockhurst . so i'm journalist tim lockhurst. so i'm wery— journalist tim lockhurst. so i'm wery keen— journalist tim lockhurst. so i'm wery keen to— journalist tim lockhurst. so i'm wery keen to get— journalist tim lockhurst. so i'm very keen to get both of your lews— very keen to get both of your views on this. _ very keen to get both of your views on this. chaps. calvin i wlll— views on this. chaps. calvin i wlll stan— views on this. chaps. calvin i will start with— views on this. chaps. calvin i will start with you. where do you— will start with you. where do you slant—

will start with you. where do you stant on— will start with you. where do you stand on the— will start with you. where do you stand on the idea that this guy— you stand on the idea that this guy nas— you stand on the idea that this guy nas teen— you stand on the idea that this guy has been ousted? i think he stoult— guy has been ousted? i think he should have left a long time ago. i don't think he should have waited for the report. he knew he and he knew he knew what he did and he knew he didn't disclose a very clear conflict now, if conflict of interest. now, if there's £800,000 there's another £800,000 loan going, to take one, going, i'm happy to take one, but i will disclose it. the problem is clear. the bbc problem here is clear. the bbc has tremendous i've been has a tremendous bias. i've been saying for years now, as saying this for years now, as have many and it's have many people, and it's becoming evident becoming more and more evident that of the things go on, it's not just the bias, though. it's the the fact that we the bloat. it's the fact that we are wasting millions of pounds of taxpayers salaries, taxpayer funding these big funding money on these big celebrities and them keep celebrities and all of them keep getting exposed in the way getting exposed in the same way that just done. it's that sharp has just done. it's not the governance of the not just the governance of the bbc. profile bbc. it's the high profile celebrities the bbc . it's celebrities on the bbc. it's the producers the bbc . the producers behind the bbc. the whole of the thing is bloated and andit whole of the thing is bloated and and it needs and biased, and it needs addressing. i'll and biased, and it needs addressing . i'll throw it your addressing. i'll throw it your way,— addressing. i'll throw it your way. tln— addressing. i'll throw it your way, tim. actually,- 522 “3 i'll throw it your way, tim. actually, got way, tim. actually, i've got a llst— way, tim. actually, i've got a llst nere— way, tim. actually, i've got a list here .2000. _ way, tim. actually, i've got a list here 2000. greg donated list here in 2000. greg donated 50 list here in 2000. greg donated to grant— list here in 2000. greg donated to grant to— list here in 2000. greg donated 50 grand to the— list here in 2000. greg donated 50 grand to the labour party. he appolntet— 50 grand to the labour party. he was appointed bbc— 50 grand to the labour party. he was appointed bbc director general— was appointed bbc directori general,_davies was appointed bbc director. general,_davies , general, 2001. gavin davies, latour— general, 2001. gavin davies, labour member— general, 2001. gavin davies, labour member and donor appolntet— labour member and donor appointed chairman of the bbc zon— appointed chairman of the bbc 2011. michael— appointed chairman of the bbc 2011. michael lyons labour

tweeter.— 2011. michael lyons labour member, former labour councillor appolntet— member, former labour councillor appointed chairman of the bbc . appointed chairman of the bbc. we appointed chairman of the bbc. we — appointed chairman of the bbc. we wasn-t— appointed chairman of the bbc. we won. wasn't that an issue? tut— we won. wasn't that an issue? tut tnls— we won. wasn't that an issue? tut tnls ls— we won. wasn't that an issue? tut tnls ls a— we won. wasn't that an issue? but this is a well,— we won. wasn't that an issue? but this is a well, of course torn— but this is a well, of course tort or— but this is a well, of course both of those— but this is a well, of course both of those were issues when tney— both of those were issues when tney went— both of those were issues when tney went wrong— both of those were issues when they went wrong, but the bottom llne— they went wrong, but the bottom llne ls— they went wrong, but the bottom llne ls tnere-s— they went wrong, but the bottom line is there's only— they went wrong, but the bottom line is there's only one appointment- line is there's only one appointment at the bbc , which is appointment at the bbc, which is mate— appointment at the bbc, which is nate tlrestly— appointment at the bbc, which is made directly by— appointment at the bbc, which is made directly by the prime wlnlster— made directly by the prime minister of— made directly by the prime minister of the— made directly by the prime minister of the day and that's the minister of the day and that's tne role— minister of the day and that's tne role or— minister of the day and that's the role of chairman. ' 2 the role of chairman. and that's tesause— the role of chairman. and that's because it's a very unique job. the chairman of the bbc has got atsolutely— the chairman of the bbc has got absolutely nothing— the chairman of the bbc has got absolutely nothing to do with etltorlal— absolutely nothing to do with editorial policy— absolutely nothing to do with editorial policy with making editorial policy or with making prorarnrnesg — editorial policy or with making programmes. .are- editorial policy or with making programmes. they are essentially an maintain an ambassador who maintain relations between the publicly owned bbc, the viewers and listeners , bbc who pay the listeners, bbc who pay the licence fee and the government of the day. and that's been the case since 1923. i don't think there would be any point whatsoever in having, for example, as the nuj has just suggested, an independent , the suggested, an independent, the appointed chairman, because you wouldn't need such a figure. the chairman is there to be a link between the bbc. so why is it a protlen — between the bbc. so why is it a protlen tnene— between the bbc. so why is it a problem then? tim— between the bbc. so why is it a problem then? tim i— “ so why is it a problem then? tim i mean, if arguatly— problem then? tim i mean, if arguatly lle— problem then? tim i mean, if arguatly we r— problem then? tim i mean, if arguably tim, i mean, this is atsolutely— arguably tim, i mean, this is absolutely he— arguably tim, i mean, this is absolutely he was he was perfect for absolutely he was he was perfect

tor tne— absolutely he was he was perfect tor tne role.— absolutely he was he was perfect for the role. he— absolutely he was he was perfect for the role. he got— absolutely he was he was perfect for the role. he got on with tons— for the role. he got on with boris johnson,— for the role. he got on with boris johnson, too. well, and he tne— boris johnson, too. well, and he tne rrlne— boris johnson, too. well, and he was the prime minister of the day— was the prime minister of the day�*a— was the prime minister of the tayla wnlle. — was the prime minister of the tayla wnlle. l— was the prime minister of the day a while. i mean, he was day for a while. i mean, he was tne— day for a while. i mean, he was tne-tor— day for a while. i mean, he was tne-tor tne— day for a while. i mean, he was the -for the job,— day for a while. i mean, he was the for the job, wasn't he, the man for the job, wasn't he, tlne — the man for the job, wasn't he, tlne _l— the man for the job, wasn't he, tlne -l mean- the man for the job, wasn't he, tim? _i mean, richard. the man for the job, wasn't he,- tim? _i mean, richard sharp tim? well, i mean, richard sharp was actually very good at his job, but the appointments process tainted process was clearly tainted and that's and that is that's what got him. and that is in a a shame. but he should in a way, a shame. but he should have been more careful. you do have been more careful. you do have to declare an interest if someone you're interested someone if you're interested in the have connections the job and you have connections with might to with people who might be able to influence appointment, yes, with people who might be able to inflldo ce appointment, yes, with people who might be able to inflldoce toappointment, yes, with people who might be able to inflldo ce to be ointment, yes, with people who might be able to inflldo ce to be absolutely 'es, you do have to be absolutely candid. whilst i don't think candid. and whilst i don't think that richard sharp is in any way an man, gone. he's an evil man, he's gone. he's right have gone. i tend to right to have gone. i tend to agree with that he should right to have gone. i tend to agree gone that he should right to have gone. i tend to agreegone much that he should right to have gone. i tend to agreegone much earliere should right to have gone. i tend to agree gone much earlier because have gone much earlier because it quite that the it was quite clear that the process by which he was appointed reach the appointed didn't reach the standard to. but standard it's supposed to. but there another there will be another appointment made. sunak appointment made. rishi sunak has said that he hasn't yet got round thinking about it. he's round to thinking about it. he's been busy today, but i'm sure that he will do what prime that he will do what every prime minister, labour and conservative done conservative since 1923 has done and another conservative and appoint another conservative lviv sympathiser as the lviv or sympathiser as the chairman. okay, calvin , maybe, chairman. okay, calvin, maybe, lust— chairman. okay, calvin, maybe, just nayte— chairman. okay, calvin, maybe, just nayte .— chairman. okay, calvin, maybe, just maybe , richard— c“5 ’2“5“ okay, calvin, maybe, just maybe , richard sharp was

just maybe, richard sharp was lnsllnet— just maybe, richard sharp was lnsllnet to— just maybe, richard sharp was inclined to stick— just maybe, richard sharp was inclined to stick around because he inclined to stick around because ne saw— inclined to stick around because ne tnat— inclined to stick around because he saw that, you— inclined to stick around because he saw that, you know, having nawlng— he saw that, you know, having having flagrant— he saw that, you know, having having flagrant political bias tltn-t— having flagrant political bias didn't bother— having flagrant political bias didn't bother gary lineker too nusn. — didn't bother gary lineker too nusn. ant— didn't bother gary lineker too nusn. ant ne— didn't bother gary lineker too much. and he managed to keep his job. much. and he managed to keep his rot-nayte— much. and he managed to keep his rot-nayte nayte— much. and he managed to keep his job. maybe maybe there's job. so maybe maybe there's a toutle— job. so maybe maybe there's a toutle-nere.- job. so maybe maybe there's a double-here. well- double standard here. well lnteet.— double standard here. well indeed, there's— double standard here. well indeed, there's political bias across-board— indeed, there's political bias across-board at- indeed, there's political bias across board at bbc, across the board at the bbc, lsn-t— across the board at the bbc, isn't there? _ across the board at the bbc, isn't there? .it's- across the board at the bbc, isn't there? c isn't there? and it's not particularly left wing bias any more right bias. more than it's right wing bias. it's metropolitan elite it's metropolitan liberal elite bias. sneering bias. and it's that sneering attitude of looking down their noses at the rest of that noses at the rest of us, that kind turns off, to be kind of turns us off, to be honest. my biggest concern honest. but my biggest concern with that these with the bbc is that these political appointments, which shouldn't first shouldn't exist in the first place, the bbc's funding place, it's the bbc's funding model. viewers right model. all of our viewers right now to pay the in now are having to pay the bbc in order to us where the bbc order to watch us where the bbc has no impact. the bbc doesn't support us. they encourage us. does provide any services does it provide any services towards viewers are towards us? but our viewers are having pay the bbc the having to pay the bbc for the privilege of watching gb news. now to seems like now that to me seems like a television and that is television tax, and that is wrong it's underhanded wrong because it's underhanded that the criminal ization model that the criminal ization model that means that if you that they have means that if you don't pay it, you're threatened under prosecution and that is abhorrent. that is why we need to defund the tim look, to defund the bbc. tim look, i get that richard was in the top

job and therefore there are different rules. well, essentially, - different rules. well, essentially, .theyl different rules. well,- essentially,-they certainly essentially, but they certainly are—protle- essentially, but they certainlyj are-profile-but are more high profile job. but ppm.— are more high profile job. but lle-we— are more high profile job. but rle-we not- are more high profile job. but tim,-we not be- are more high profile job. but tim, we not be going tim, should we not be going tnrougn— tim, should we not be going tnrougn wltn— tim, should we not be going through with a— tim, should we not be going through with a fine tooth comb ewery— through with a fine tooth comb ewery slngle— through with a fine tooth comb every single bbc— through with a fine tooth comb every single bbc producer who pays— every single bbc producer who pays-party— every single bbc producer who pays party membership, pays a labour party membership, snoult—tnenei should we not go through them? wno—party- who pays a lib dem party nentersnlp— who pays a lib dem partyi membership—i who pays a lib dem party- membership_| mean, membership or anything? i mean, wnere—tesause- membership or anything? i mean, where—because at| where does this stop? because at some-ere golng- where does this stop? because at some we're going to have some point we're going to have to look.— some point we're going to have to look. ten-t— some point we're going to have to look, aren't we?— some point we're going to have to look, aren't we? i'm tellgntet— to look, aren't we? i'm delighted to- to look, aren't we? i'm delighted to say that in this sountry— delighted to say that in this sountryiton-t— delighted to say that in this country don't have country we don't have a polltlsal— country we don't have a political police force can political police force who can lnslst— political police force who can lnslst on— political police force who can insist on revealing our private. is insist on revealing our private. ls tnat— insist on revealing our private. ls that not— insist on revealing our private. is that not what's— insist on revealing our private. is that not what's happened here? and i think no, this is not what's happened here. as i've explained, the chairman is the in the bbc that's the one job in the bbc that's appointed by the government of the day. every other at the the day. every otherjob at the bbc is appointed by bbc executives . every other job at executives. every otherjob at the bbc is scrutinise through the bbc is scrutinise through the bbc's appointments process . the bbc's appointments process. now, i think that when calvin makes a point about metropolitan bias, he's he's right. i mean, i think that the bbc should move many of its out london. think that the bbc should move nthinkff its out london. think that the bbc should move nthink itits out london. think that the bbc should move nthink it should out london. think that the bbc should move nthink it should bet london. think that the bbc should move nthink it should be making don. i think it should be making national uk wide programmes from glasgow, birmingham, perhaps from leicester or indeed from

durham if we've got studios large enough here, it would be a very thing for the bbc to very good thing for the bbc to get closer to its licence payers and not to be simply a metropolitan organisation because there is such a thing as metropolitan bias. and i think that matt goodwin writes about it very well indeed in his new book.so it very well indeed in his new book. so you've agreed with me twice. i'm book. so you've agreed with me twice . i'm very ofsted you've twice. i'm very ofsted you've agreet— twice. i'm very ofsted you've agreet wltn— twice. i'm very ofsted you've agreed with me— cc i'm very ofsted you've agreed with me twice this agreed with me twice in this tetate— agreed with me twice in this tetate .— agreed with me twice in this tetate . wou— agreed with me twice in this debate . you are,— agreed with me twice in this debate . you are, of course, spot debate. you are, of course, spot tut— debate. you are, of course, spot tut tne— debate. you are, of course, spot on. but the problem is the bbc snlps— on. but the problem is the bbc snlps employees— on. but the problem is the bbc ships employees out, for example.— ships employees out, for example, manchester. but it takes— example, manchester. but it takes tne— example, manchester. but it takes the london lot up there. so takes the london lot up there. so lt— takes the london lot up there. so lt takes— takes the london lot up there. so it takes the— takes the london lot up there. so it takes the bias with them. lnsteat— so it takes the bias with them. lnsteat ot— so it takes the bias with them. instead of hiring— so it takes the bias with them. instead of hiring talent, instead of hiring local talent, wnlsn— instead of hiring local talent, wnlsn ls— instead of hiring local talent, which is what— instead of hiring local talent, which is what they should be tolng— which is what they should be doing,.course._ which is what they should be doing, course. well, ask doing, of course. well, i'll ask you—tnatl you the same question that i asket— you the same question that i asket to— you the same question that i asket to tln— you the same question that i asked to tim earlier on, which is asked to tim earlier on, which ls wnen— asked to tim earlier on, which ls wnen l— asked to tim earlier on, which is when i look— asked to tim earlier on, which is when i look back at some of tne— is when i look back at some of tne prewlous— is when i look back at some of the previous appointments, like oreg— the previous appointments, like sregt—llkel greg, like gavin davies, like llke—all- greg, like gavin davies, like like—all with| like michael lyons, all with llnks— like michael lyons, all with links-labour- like michael lyons, all with links labour party, links to the labour party, slseatle— links to the labour party, sizeable links— links to the labour party, sizeable links labour sizeable links to the labour party— sizeable links to the labour rany-lnteet— sizeable links to the labour. party-indeed-as party and indeed donations as wen. — party and indeed donations as wen. m— party and indeed donations as wen. m the— party and indeed donations as well. in the case— party and indeed donations as well. in the case of- party and indeed donations as well. " f [wig party and indeed donations as well. " f ecu a“: well. in the case of greg and gavin davies. you just wonder gavin davies. do you just wonder whether not there is actually whether or not there is actually some kind of double standard here really that this is an

issue? because, you know, richard sharper got richard sharper maybe got himself into bed with boris johnson, who a lot of people didn't particularly towards didn't particularly like towards the because ipsis the end because it was ipsis himars. lot left himars. what what a lot of left wingers would regard as, you know, of bad elements know, the kind of bad elements of tory they just of the tory party. they just couldn't how popular he couldn't handle how popular he was to an extent. do you think the have applied if the same would have applied if he labour? oh, we've seen he was labour? oh, we've seen this— he was labour? oh, we've seen this-over— he was labour? oh, we've seen this-over the— he was labour? oh, we've seen this-over the rest— he was labour? oh, we've seen this-over the rest of- he was labour? oh, we've seen this-over the rest of the- this all over the rest of the mainstream— this all over the rest of the mainstream media, we? mainstream media, haven't we? patrick— mainstream media, haven't we? patrick-grayling- mainstream media, haven't we? patrick grayling was patrick i mean, grayling was meeting— patrick i mean, grayling was tweeting because of tweeting this is because of brexit— tweeting this is because of brexit._comesl tweeting this is because of brexit._comes to brexit. everything comes down to boris— brexit. everything comes down to boris johnson— brexit. everything comes down to boris johnson brexit, the boris johnson and brexit, the fact—shapland. boris johnson and brexit, the. fact—shapland boris fact that richard shapland boris johnson—somehowl fact that richard shapland boris johwith _somehowl fact that richard shapland boris johwith brexit somehow fact that richard shapland boris johwith brexit and somehow fact that richard shapland boris johwith brexit and therefore ow fact that richard shapland boris johwith brexit and therefore the do with brexit and therefore the bac— do with brexit and therefore the sac bias— do with brexit and therefore the sac bias is— do with brexit and therefore the bbc bias is somehow to do with brexit.— bbc bias is somehow to do with brexit. n-s— bbc bias is somehow to do with brexit. n-sia— bbc bias is somehow to do with brexit. it's a nonsense. brexit. it's all a nonsense. you-e— brexit. it's all a nonsense. you're absolutely right that if this— you're absolutely right that if this-a— you're absolutely right that if this-a lefty— you're absolutely right that if this a lefty actually this was a lefty that actually loaned— this was a lefty that actuallyi loaned—in this was a lefty that actually- toaned—in the loaned money to someone in the labour— loaned money to someone in the labour-the— loaned money to someone in the labour-the press- loaned money to someone in the labour the press would labour party, the press would have— labour party, the press would have-reporting- labour party, the press would have reporting this in have been reporting this in a very— have been reporting this in a very different— have been reporting this in a very different way if reporting itlau- — very different way if reporting itlau- okay.— very different way if reporting itlall. okay. just- very different way if reporting it all. c m it at all. okay. just one quick one. to you, tim. look, one. sorry to you, tim. look, arnie as to anyone, arnie any heads up as to anyone, heads as we can get heads up as to who we can get next because it's going to have to someone i mean, i reckon to be someone i mean, i reckon there's point, an there's just a point, an inanimate object, because probably who can't probably the only one who can't can't call any kind of can't actually call any kind of controversy mean, controversy whatsoever. i mean, are we just to end up with

are we just going to end up with an in charge? i certainly an amoeba in charge? i certainly wouldn't bother— an amoeba in charge? i certainly wouldn't bother to— an amoeba in charge? i certainlyi wouldn't bother to _amoeba wouldn't bother to pay an amoeba or an inanimate— wouldn't bother to pay an amoeba or an inanimate object to salary to be— or an inanimate object to salary to be chairman— or an inanimate object to salary to be chairman of— or an inanimate object to salary to be chairman of the bbc. neither— to be chairman of the bbc. neither deserves neither of them deserves £160,000— neither of them deserves meaooo- i - neither of them deserves £160,000 i think that £160,000 a year. i think that we need— £160,000 a year. i think that we need-chairman.- £160,000 a year. i think that we need-chairman. i- £160,000 a year. i think that we need chairman. i think the need a bbc chairman. i think the role— need a bbc chairman. i think the rote-|— need a bbc chairman. i think the rote-u think— role matters. i think the relationship— role matters. i think the relationship between the publicly— relationship between the publicly funded and publicly owned— publicly funded and publicly owned-of— publicly funded and publicly owned .of the - publicly funded and publicly owned of the day quite government of the day is quite important.— government of the day is quite important. so— government of the day is quite important. so hope that rishi important. so i hope that rishi sunak— important. so i hope that rishi sunak win— important. so i hope that rishi sunak will think— important. so i hope that rishi sunak will think hard and appoint— sunak will think hard and appoint someone actually is appoint someone who actually is interested— appoint someone who actually is interested broadcasting, interested in broadcasting, who-s— who's thought hard about broadcast— who's thought hard about broadcast-andl broadcast regulation and who win— broadcast regulation and who will have— broadcast regulation and who will have interests of the will have the interests of the uses— will have the interests of the am staff— will have the interests of the bbc's staff and— will have the interests of the bbc's staff and crucially, the sac— bbc's staff and crucially, the sac-payers- bbc's staff and crucially, the bbc-pay... at- bbc's staff and crucially, the bbc payers at heart. bbc licence payers at heart. that-s— bbc licence payers at heart. that-s the— bbc licence payers at heart. that's the important job a chairman— that's the important job a chairman should do. and i think that— chairman should do. and i think that there— chairman should do. and i think that there are— chairman should do. and i think that there are plenty of people around— that there are plenty of people otount who— that there are plenty of people around who could— that there are plenty of people around who could do that. well pottooo— around who could do that. well pottopo cotvtn— around who could do that. well perhaps calvin would be a great .— perhaps calvin would be a great nominee. i mean,— perhaps calvin would be a great nominee. " nominee. i mean, i'll tell you what, this is. it's been what, chaps, this is. it's been a more loving than a a more of a loving than a debate. i mean, know, debate. i mean, you know, fantastic. i'd love to see fantastic. but i'd love to see it. right. both of you. thank you very much. there's something in friday, isn't in the air this friday, isn't there? news presenter there? there's gb news presenter calvin bbc calvin robinson, a former bbc journalist. luckhurst, as journalist. tim luckhurst, as well. right. more still to well. right. loads more still to come now 5:00. rishi come between now and 5:00. rishi sunak speech in scotland sunak gave a speech in scotland this flew to this morning and he then flew to wales deliver another speech.

wales to deliver another speech. now personally didn't now i personally didn't initially care about this until i thought, we all meant to i thought, oh, we all meant to be doing to fight be doing our best to fight climate change. and isn't that costing us all rather, a lot of money? he have just money? couldn't he have just done different day done things on a different day and has found that and a survey has found that kate is country's favourite is the country's favourite royal. i will be asking what makes her so special. but first, it's your latest headlines with ray addison . thanks, patrick. ray addison. thanks, patrick. 4:33. here's the latest. richard stato— 4:33. here's the latest. richard stoto too— 4:33. here's the latest. richard sharp has resigned as chairman of sharp has resigned as chairman ot tho— sharp has resigned as chairman ot the boc— sharp has resigned as chairman of the bbc after— sharp has resigned as chairman of the bbc after a— sharp has resigned as chairman of the bbc after a report found that— of the bbc after a report found that to— of the bbc after a report found that he breached— of the bbc after a report found that he breached the rules for outtto— that he breached the rules for public appointments. the review toys— public appointments. the review toys to— public appointments. the review toys to tattoo— public appointments. the review says he failed to— public appointments. the review says he failed to properly ttootooo— says he failed to properly disclose his— says he failed to properly disclose his involvement in toottttottng— disclose his involvement in facilitating .— disclose his involvement in facilitating . an— disclose his involvement in facilitating . an £800,000 loan facilitating. an £800,000 loan guarantee— facilitating. an £800,000 loan guarantee tor— facilitating. an £800,000 loan guarantee for boris johnson . mr guarantee for boris johnson. mr stato— guarantee for boris johnson. mr sharp says— guarantee for boris johnson. mr sharp eaye tue— guarantee for boris johnson. mr sharp says the breach was inadvertent,— sharp says the breach was inadvertent, but he's quitting to prtortttee— inadvertent, but he's quitting to prioritise the— inadvertent, but he's quitting to prioritise the interests of tree— to prioritise the interests of the broadcaster— to prioritise the interests of the broadcaster following calls trom— the broadcaster following calls trom tatour— the broadcaster following calls from labour that— the broadcaster following calls from labour that he should have teen— from labour that he should have teen eaetert— from labour that he should have been sacked. the— from labour that he should have been sacked. the prime minister says— been sacked. the prime minister says the— been sacked. the prime minister eaye tte tatt— been sacked. the prime minister says the right process was tottouet — says the right process was tottouet . — says the right process was followed . this- says the right process was followed . " r:r:::r g followed. this is about doing

things properly and professionally and when concerns are raised, it's right that there is a proper process and independent process that we don't prejudge. we allow it to carry on, establish the facts of what happened, reach a conclusion that's happened . conclusion that's happened. richard sharp has resigned . but richard sharp has resigned. but it's right that we do these things properly and professionally. i think most people will think that that's the right thing do. well, the right thing to do. well, police investigating- ” g g r:r:::r well, police investigating the murder of police investigating the murder otloreeuaut— police investigating the murder of pregnant teacher in of a pregnant teacher in soottaut— of a pregnant teacher in scotland confirmed that scotland have confirmed that trey-re— scotland have confirmed that trey-re-tte— scotland have confirmed that they've _the body- scotland have confirmed that they've the body of her they've found the body of her mteetue— they've found the body of her missing partner.— they've found the body of her missing partner. police had been toottue— missing partner. police had been toottug tor— missing partner. police had been toottug tor oe— missing partner. police had been looking for 36 .old- missing partner. police had been looking for 36 old david looking for 36 year old david yates— looking for 36 year old david yates tu— looking for 36 year old david yates in connection with the death— yates in connection with the death .murrell. - yates in connection with the death murrell. sturrock at a death of murrell. sturrock at a torre— death of murrell. sturrock at a home-glasgow— death of murrell. sturrock at a home-glasgow on - death of murrell. sturrock at a home glasgow on tuesday . home in glasgow on tuesday. tremtere— home in glasgow on tuesday. tremtere ot— home in glasgow on tuesday. members of the— home in glasgow on tuesday. members of the gmb union have accepted— members of the gmb union have accepted the — members of the gmb union have accepted the government's pay otter— accepted the government's pay otter to— accepted the government's pay offer to health _ accepted the government's pay offer to health workers comes arter— offer to health workers comes after members— offer to health workers comes after members of— offer to health workers comes after members of the unite union in after members of the unite union to tugtaut— after members of the unite union in england rejected— after members of the unite union in england rejected the government's 5% pay increase to tus— government's 5% pay increase to uus start— government's 5% pay increase to uus etatt tra— government's 5% pay increase to nhs staff in their— government's 5% pay increase to nhs staff in their long running pay nhs staff in their long running pay tteoute— nhs staff in their long running pay dispute. unite says planned etrttee— pay dispute. unite says planned etrttee ty— pay dispute. unite says planned strikes by more— pay dispute. unite says planned strikes by more than 4000 nhs woreret— strikes by more than 4000 nhs workers across— strikes by more than 4000 nhs workers across england will now go ahead— workers across england will now go ateat reat— workers across england will now go ahead next week . and the go ahead next week. and the

puree— go ahead next week. and the rrtuee aut— go ahead next week. and the prince and princess of wales tare— prince and princess of wales have patt— prince and princess of wales have part at— prince and princess of wales have paid an emotional visit to a ureter— have paid an emotional visit to a welsh village— have paid an emotional visit to a welsh village to— have paid an emotional visit to a welsh village to remember the rtettme— a welsh village to remember the vtettme ot— a welsh village to remember the victims of the— a welsh village to remember the victims of the 1966— a welsh village to remember the victims of the 1966 aberfan tteaeter— victims of the 1966 aberfan tteaeter .— victims of the 1966 aberfan disaster . 116— victims of the 1966 aberfan disaster . 116 children victims of the 1966 aberfan disaster. 116 children and 28 atutte— disaster. 116 children and 28 atutte were— disaster. 116 children and 28 adults were killed after a eottterw— adults were killed after a colliery spoil— adults were killed after a colliery spoil tip collapsed orato— colliery spoil tip collapsed onto a— colliery spoil tip collapsed onto a school— colliery spoil tip collapsed onto a school and neighbouring tomes.— onto a school and neighbouring homes. william— onto a school and neighbouring homes. william and kate visited the atertau— homes. william and kate visited the aberfan memorial garden to pay the aberfan memorial garden to pay ttetr— the aberfan memorial garden to pay their respects— the aberfan memorial garden to pay their respects . we're on tv pay their respects. we're on tv outwe— pay their respects. we're on tv outtue ora— pay their respects. we're on tv online on dab+— pay their respects. we're on tv online on dab+ radio and on tune in online on dab+ radio and on tune to to— online on dab+ radio and on tune to to rate— online on dab+ radio and on tune to to true to— online on dab+ radio and on tune to to true to ee— online on dab+ radio and on tune in to this is gb news. back now to into this is gb news. back now to .— to. patrick lwto- to. patrick i who do i to. patrick who do you think is the most to. patrick who do you �*ofnk is the most to. patrick who do you �*of the; the most to. patrick who do you �*of the royalnost popular member of the royal family? it charles is it family? is it charles or is it william? surely not harry no, it's of them. it's actually it's none of them. it's actually kate. charles is back kate. and king charles is back in fifth place, buying kate, william, his grandchildren and his sister, anne. the princess royal. so the poll makes for

especially grim reading, though, for queen consort camilla, who is, believe it or not, as unpopular as meghan markle . i'm unpopular as meghan markle. i'm joined now by royal commentator judhha joined now by royal commentator juditha da silva. look, thank you very, very much. it has led to, well, at least a question that maybe what should have happenedis that maybe what should have happened is that charles stepped aside with camilla and they've gone into their retirement and actually we've had a rather long stint of king william and queen kate and their wonderful young , kate and their wonderful young, highly energised family. what do you of that? i think so. you make of that? i think so. like you make of that? i think so. ttte ewer— you make of that? i think so. like even towards— you make of that? i think so. like even towards the- $17 i think so. like even towards the latter part— like even towards the latter part ot— like even towards the latter part or oueeu— like even towards the latter part of queen elizabeth reign, there— part of queen elizabeth reign, ttere wee— part of queen elizabeth reign, there were always those conversations- there were always those conversations . that is charles's conversations. that is charles's trua— conversations. that is charles's true, rearw— conversations. that is charles's king, really what— conversations. that is charles's king, really what the country teete— king, really what the country needs e— king, really what the country needs e 0r— king, really what the country needs ? or should we just kind of needs? or should we just kind of otto— needs? or should we just kind of etto twat— needs? or should we just kind of ettp that page— needs? or should we just kind of ettp that page ot— needs? or should we just kind of skip that page of the book and it skip that page of the book and tt trut— skip that page of the book and tt twat ot— skip that page of the book and it kind of comes— skip that page of the book and it kind of comes down to what the— it kind of comes down to what the eoetetw— it kind of comes down to what the eoetetw te— it kind of comes down to what the society is now— it kind of comes down to what the society is now and partly because— the society is now and partly because queen _ the society is now and partly because queen elizabeth had such a tone— because queen elizabeth had such a tone retort,— because queen elizabeth had such a tone reignr rt— because queen elizabeth had such a long reign, it kind— because queen elizabeth had such a long reign, it kind of ate tuto— a long reign, it kind of ate tuto wreat— a long reign, it kind of ate into what could- a long reign, it kind of ate into what could have been an easier transition— into what could have been an easier transition in to king crates.— easier transition in to king charles. but— easier transition in to king charles. but by— easier transition in to king charles. but by the time you're in charles. but by the time you're to 2023,—

charles. but by the time you're ta ooze, wouwe— charles. but by the time you're in 2023, you've got a situation where— in 2023, you've got a situation where wouwe— in 2023, you've got a situation where you've got— in 2023, you've got a situation where you've got a royal family twat-e— where you've got a royal family that's grappling— where you've got a royal family that's grappling with a society that— that's grappling with a society that toeerr-t— that's grappling with a society that doesn't truly understand its relevance _ that doesn't truly understand its relevance because the people who— its relevance because the people who are— its relevance because the people who are now taking the driving seat— who are now taking the driving eeat ot— who are now taking the driving seat of society— who are now taking the driving seat of society are— who are now taking the driving seat of society are late. millennial— seat of society are late. millennial and gen z, and they tort-t— millennial and gen z, and they tor-t tave— millennial and gen z, and they tor-t tawe artw— millennial and gen z, and they don't have any like there's no resonance of a— don't have any like there's no resonance of a king charles with them — resonance of a king charles with them aut— resonance of a king charles with them and that's— resonance of a king charles with them and that's a— resonance of a king charles with them and that's a very poteattattw— them and that's a very potentially dangerous thing when they potentially dangerous thing when ttew see— potentially dangerous thing when they tate— potentially dangerous thing when they see kate and— potentially dangerous thing when they see kate and william , they see kate and william, thew-re— they see kate and william, thew-re more— they see kate and william, they're more identifiable, thew-re— they're more identifiable, they're more— they're more identifiable, they're more relatable. there's atwawe— they're more relatable. there's atwawe teen— they're more relatable. there's always been an— they're more relatable. there's always been an issue that creates— always been an issue that charles has— always been an issue that charles has a— always been an issue that charles has a standoffish persona— charles has a standoffish persona which- charles has a standoffish persona which actually speaks to the generator— persona which actually speaks to the generation before. that's tow— the generation before. that's tow thew— the generation before. that's how they were. _ the generation before. that's how they were. that's not his tautt— how they were. that's not his tautt .— how they were. that's not his tautt . tut— how they were. that's not his tautt . out rt— how they were. that's not his fault. but in the— how they were. that's not his fault . but in the society of fault. but in the society of today,— fault. but in the society of totaw, wtere — fault. but in the society of today, where someone can be on woutute— today, where someone can be on woutute tatte— today, where someone can be on youtube farting and have a rtttttot— youtube farting and have a million followers, people want to — million followers, people want to tte — million followers, people want to see the humanity, the broken teautw— to see the humanity, the broken teautw ot— to see the humanity, the broken beauty or tutt— to see the humanity, the broken beauty of just being a person . beauty of just being a person. att— beauty of just being a person. att wttttart— beauty of just being a person. and william speaks to that. kate treate— and william speaks to that. kate treats to— and william speaks to that. kate eteate to that— and william speaks to that. kate speaks to that more so than king ctartee. — speaks to that more so than king ctartee. r— speaks to that more so than king ctartee. r e— speaks to that more so than king charles. i see you— speaks to that more so than king charles. r: speaks to that more so than king charles. : charles. i see you found my youtube channel, but yes, i suppose. youtube channel, but yes, i suppose . i suppose, though i suppose. i suppose, though i suppose. i suppose, though i suppose the argument against this and i think sarah sums this up well, he's been on the inbox first foremost. we should first and foremost. we should ask our late wished

ask whom our late queen wished to to the throne. it to succeed her to the throne. it looks that was looks to me that that was charles. she wanted charles charles. that she wanted charles to the job and to take over the job and i always say this twitter is not real life. and there are a lot of gen z millennials or whatever they're called out there on twitter. so it might be easy to assume that the majority of the pubuc assume that the majority of the public resonate actually public doesn't resonate actually with charles. with with king charles. but actually, i'm not quite sure that's true. the royal that's true. and the royal family always not caved to family has always not caved to in public pressure, have we? we're just following tradition, and charles and that's a good thing. charles should as king. indeed it should stay as king. indeed it was because if— : g indeed it was because if anything, if there-e— was because if anything, if there's anything you can say about— there's anything you can say about the— there's anything you can say about the late— there's anything you can say about the late queen elizabeth ii about the late queen elizabeth rr ete— about the late queen elizabeth ii she believed— about the late queen elizabeth ii she believed in— about the late queen elizabeth ii she believed in tradition and ete— ii she believed in tradition and ate uttera— ii she believed in tradition and she upheld-there- ii she believed in tradition and she upheld there was a piety she upheld it, there was a piety to tet— she upheld it, there was a piety to her. that-e— she upheld it, there was a piety to her. that's just— to her. that's just incomparable. and you to her. that's just— incomparable. and you cannot treat— incomparable. and you cannot treat wttt— incomparable. and you cannot break with tradition . king break with tradition. king ctartee— break with tradition. king ctartee te— break with tradition. king charles is where he is meant to be. out— charles is where he is meant to be. out ttet— charles is where he is meant to be. but then again,— charles is where he is meant to be. but then again, like even though— be. but then again, like even ttougt teotte— be. but then again, like even though people quip about social tetra— though people quip about social rtetta rt— though people quip about social rtetta tt te— though people quip about social media, it is the— though people quip about social media, it is the language of the day. — media, it is the language of the day. att— media, it is the language of the day. att tte— media, it is the language of the day. and the most— media, it is the language of the day. and the most popular interactive _ day. and the most popular interactive force there is in rtoertt— interactive force there is in modern society— interactive force there is in modern society . so if you're not modern society. so if you're not etrtttte— modern society. so if you're not etrttttg a— modern society. so if you're not striking a chord,— modern society. so if you're not striking a chord, there, you do tave— striking a chord, there, you do have a— striking a chord, there, you do have a problem— striking a chord, there, you do have a problem that you will grapple— have a problem that you will grattte wttt— have a problem that you will grapple with. but like 49% of

teotte— grapple with. but like 49% of teotte trort — grapple with. but like 49% of people from this— grapple with. but like 49% of people from this poll think king ctartee— people from this poll think king ctartee te— people from this poll think king charles is doing— people from this poll think king charles is doing a— people from this poll think king charles is doing a good job and that— charles is doing a good job and that sawe— charles is doing a good job and that says something. because remember ,-when- that says something. because- remember ,-when-you're remember, like when what you're tott— remember, like when what you're tout-otto— remember, like when what you're told-child about— remember, like when what you're told child about your told as a child about your eetoot— told as a child about your eetoot-wou- told as a child about youri school-you don't told as a child about your- school-you don't need school teachers, you don't need to twe— school teachers, you don't need to ttte ttert— school teachers, you don't need to like them to— school teachers, you don't need to like them to respect them. vou— to like them to respect them. you-respect— to like them to respect them. you-respect king- to like them to respect them. you respect king charles you can respect king charles wtttout— you can respect king charlesj without—think you can respect king charles. without—think he without liking him and think he utteretatte— without liking him and think he understands-he— without liking him and think he understands he will not be understands that he will not be a totutar— understands that he will not be a totutar wtt— understands that he will not be a popular king,-he- understands that he will not be a popular king, he can be a a popular king, but he can be a 9°°d_ a popular king, but he can be a 900d att— a popular king, but he can be a good and respected king. yeah. att— good and respected king. yeah. art to— good and respected king. yeah. att altar.— good and respected king. yeah. and to.fair, look— good and respected king. yeah. and to.fair, look ,— and to be fair, look, politicians kill for those politicians would kill for those kind numbers. i mean, they kind of numbers. i mean, they absolutely would. polls are absolutely would. and polls are absolutely would. and polls are a fickle beast, and only a fickle beast, and it only takes him handle things takes him to handle things correctly. imagine that correctly. i would imagine that maybe of the maybe in the wake of the coronation, which we will be covering from covering extensively from buckingham on buckingham palace right here on gb that his popularity gb news, that his popularity will up . some will probably spike up. some would argue, actually, greta, that he's doing his bit to secure the future of the monarchy, because even if people are squiffy about are a bit squiffy about charles and likely about and more likely squiffy about camilla, they're waiting for what and wills and what comes next. and wills and kate their family very kate and their family very popular. so they're more inclined to maybe if they don't popular. so they're more inclinelike maybe if they don't popular. so they're more inclinelike the ybe if they don't popular. so they're more inclinelike the monarchy! don't popular. so they're more inclinelike the monarchy now't popular. so they're more inclinelike the monarchy now put really like the monarchy now put up with it because they know what they're going like, what they're going to like, what's come. it's true. what's going to come. it's true. it's like waiting—

what's going to come. it's true. it's like waiting-really- it's like waiting for a really 900d_ it's like waiting for a really toot sequel-— it's like waiting for a really good sequel. the only thing good sequel. but the only thing that— good sequel. but the only thing that-totte— good sequel. but the only thing that polls important , that why polls are important, why— that why polls are important, why presidential— that why polls are important, why presidential do why presidential elections do them. — why presidential elections do them. _minister- why presidential elections do them. minister elections them. prime minister elections do them. prime minister elections to-teeauee— them. prime minister elections do-because those- them. prime minister elections do because those things do them is because those things tratetate— do them is because those things translate into— do them is because those things translate into votes. but for two— translate into votes. but for ttte towar— translate into votes. but for this royal family, we're this royal family, what we're trying— this royal family, what we're trying understand is the trying to understand is the relevance resonance trying to understand is the- relevance-resonance you relevance and the resonance you have. — relevance and the resonance you have. rte— relevance and the resonance you have the teotte— relevance and the resonance you have. the people that's the ourretew ttew— have. the people that's the currency they by. and when currency they live by. and when wouwe— currency they live by. and when you've - situation - currency they live by. and when you've situation with you've got the situation with cartttta— you've got the situation with camilla being— you've got the situation with camilla being so unfavourable , camilla being so unfavourable, that-e— camilla being so unfavourable, ttat-e tte— camilla being so unfavourable, that's the power— camilla being so unfavourable, that's the power of having a twtarttte— that's the power of having a dynamite spouse. we saw it with wette— dynamite spouse. we saw it with jackie, jacqueline _ dynamite spouse. we saw it with jackie, jacqueline bouvier and jfk jackie, jacqueline bouvier and rrt .— jackie, jacqueline bouvier and rrt . we— jackie, jacqueline bouvier and rrt . we aw— jackie, jacqueline bouvier and rrt . we rt— jackie, jacqueline bouvier and jfk . we saw it with michelle jfk. we saw it with michelle ortarta— jfk. we saw it with michelle otarta att— jfk. we saw it with michelle obama and barack obama. you trott— obama and barack obama. you rttgtt trotte— obama and barack obama. you might dislike the— obama and barack obama. you might dislike the man, but if he has a— might dislike the man, but if he has a dynamite— might dislike the man, but if he has a dynamite woman, you're wttttte— has a dynamite woman, you're wttttte to— has a dynamite woman, you're wtttttg to put— has a dynamite woman, you're wtttttg to out up— has a dynamite woman, you're willing to put up with him and watt— willing to put up with him and gratt ttrt— willing to put up with him and grant him favour— willing to put up with him and grant him favour because it treate— grant him favour because it treats to— grant him favour because it speaks to his— grant him favour because it speaks to his character that he woutt— speaks to his character that he would choose— speaks to his character that he would choose a— speaks to his character that he would choose a woman that you twe— would choose a woman that you tttelrtuet— would choose a woman that you tttelrtuet .— would choose a woman that you like-much . so— would choose a woman that you like much . so camilla could like so much. so camilla could be like so much. so camilla could telttort— like so much. so camilla could telttortltte— like so much. so camilla could belthornlhis side. - like so much. so camilla could be thorn his side. be a thorn in his side. wow. i there-t— be a thorn in his side. wow. i mean, there's a— be a thorn in his side. wow. i mean, there's a fantastic book. fantastic thought, isn't it? really suppose of that. really i suppose all of that. look. you very much, judy. look. thank you very much, judy. it's great get your insights it's great to get your insights on of this. that is, of on all of this. that is, of course, the wonderful judy to alice been alice over there who's been talking about the talking to us about the coronation and whether not in coronation and whether or not in relation popularity relation to these popularity polls, charles polls, king charles should

indeed look, indeed have abdicated. look, i've a lot of reaction to i've got a lot of reaction to this. that's why looking this. that's why i'm looking down emails are down at my emails that are popping down at my emails that are popping off front of me right popping off in front of me right now. vaiews@gbnews.uk. right. so you are just joining so look, if you are just joining us, popularity polls, the us, the popularity polls, the royal popularity contest has been unveiled and shakira wills and kate score a lot more highly than charles. especially than charles. but especially camilla. hi, patrick. this is gwen. wish people would stop gwen. i wish people would stop bashing camilla. bashing charles and camilla. he's waited long enough to become king. it's awful become king. it's an awful job to you to wait to have when you have to wait for your to parents die to get the top job from gwen and i am inclined to agree you, inclined to agree with you, gwen, for the just to the gwen, for the just to set the record how you not record straight, how do you not actually that king charles actually think that king charles should abdicated? is should have abdicated? but it is not actually an unpopular view because would have because it would have potentially because it would have potenti longer stint kate a longer stint at why should charles have to abdicate to suit the youngsters in our society? yes, quite right. society? yes, ruth quite right. charles monarch. charles is rightly the monarch. there people in this there are other people in this country that over age of country that are over the age of 25. ruth, i think that sums 25. and ruth, i think that sums it perfectly because if it up perfectly because if you've a load of kind of you've got a load of kind of woke millennials, who woke millennials, snowflakes who are don't are out there saying, i don't resonate the family resonate with the royal family and they just want a younger person in does not

person in does that not maybe summarise of society summarise where a lot of society is at these days, where a lot of younger think they younger people think that they know they are more know better, they are more modern and they the ones modern and they are the ones with the answers compared to with all the answers compared to people around the people who've been around the block more and block a little bit more and maybe more lived maybe have a lot more lived experience. actually these experience. and actually these are the people who are better to lead and to help lead our monarchy and to help with soft diplomacy around the world as i just wonder world as well. i just wonder whether not maybe is the whether or not maybe that is the case. your views coming case. get your views coming in there rather lot of them. there is rather a lot of them. charles be he's charles should be king. he's trained his life for this role. again, tapping into what we're saying william kate saying now, william and kate needs their family needs to bring up their family and for the future. and our heirs for the future. god and queen. god bless our king and queen. and it from elaine. so and that's it from elaine. so there we go. now, rishi sunak gave speech scotland gave a speech in scotland this morning . he then flew to wales morning. he then flew to wales to deliver speech, to deliver another speech, just like then to wales to like a&e, then flew to wales to deliver another speech. look aren't we all meant to be doing our best to fight climate change? and is this not a little bit of a slap in the face given, you know, all our energy you know, all of our energy bills and all of the restrictions? i mean, stop restrictions? i mean, just stop oil, would have an oil, to be fair, would have an

absolute day with this, absolute field day with this, wouldn't they? i'm patrick christys on news britain's christys on gb news britain's news .

the people's channel. i'll now we all care about the environment right ? well, most of environment right? well, most of us do. environment right? well, most of us to. out— environment right? well, most of us do. but rishi— environment right? well, most of us do. but rishi sunak— rzi; " ” q7 well, most of us do. but rishi sunak has a treat— us do. but rishi sunak has a mixed record— us do. but rishi sunak has a mixed record on— us do. but rishi sunak has a mixed record on green policy, so tee— mixed record on green policy, so he's advocating— mixed record on green policy, so he's advocating for— mixed record on green policy, so he's advocating for the uk to meet— he's advocating for the uk to meet to— he's advocating for the uk to meet to tote— he's advocating for the uk to meet its long term goals on ottrtate— meet its long term goals on ottrtate att— meet its long term goals on climate and overseen a huge net tutt— climate and overseen a huge net trust at— climate and overseen a huge net zero push at the— climate and overseen a huge net zero push at the treasury , which zero push at the treasury, which in zero push at the treasury, which tt turt— zero push at the treasury, which tt turt te— zero push at the treasury, which in turn is hitting— zero push at the treasury, which in turn is hitting our bank accounts on— in turn is hitting our bank accounts on a— in turn is hitting our bank accounts on a daily basis , accounts on a daily basis, wtetter— accounts on a daily basis, whether we— accounts on a daily basis, whether we like it or not. but he took— whether we like it or not. but he took £500,000 _ whether we like it or not. but he took £500,000 worth of trwate— he took £500,000 worth of trwate tet— he took £500,000 worth of private jet trips _ he took £500,000 worth of private jet trips in less than a tortttett— private jet trips in less than a fortnight last— private jet trips in less than a fortnight last year , and this fortnight last year, and this rtorttte— fortnight last year, and this rtorttte te— fortnight last year, and this morning he gave a speech at the sootttet— morning he gave a speech at the scottish conservative conference. - scottish conservative conference. this then flew to watee— conference. this then flew to watee to — conference. this then flew to wales to deliver— conference. this then flew to wales to deliver a speech at the west— wales to deliver a speech at the wetet tow— wales to deliver a speech at the welsh tory conference. couldn't he welsh tory conference. couldn't te tave— welsh tory conference. couldn't he have got— welsh tory conference. couldn't he have got a— welsh tory conference. couldn't he have got a train— welsh tory conference. couldn't he have got a train or, i don't wow,— he have got a train or, i don't ttow tote— he have got a train or, i don't know, done one— he have got a train or, i don't know, done one of— he have got a train or, i don't know, done one of the speeches tomorrow or via zoom? maybe. rete— tomorrow or via zoom? maybe. tet-e tutt— tomorrow or via zoom? maybe. tet-e tuet te— tomorrow or via zoom? maybe. let's just be nato. tomorrow or via zoom? maybe. let'sjust be nato. harry let's just be nato. harry wttttteot— let's just be nato. harry wilkinson is— let's just be nato. harry wilkinson is the head of policy

at tet— wilkinson is the head of policy at tet ero— wilkinson is the head of policy at net zero. watch— wilkinson is the head of policy at net zero. watch now look, i at — at net zero. watch now look, i at a big— at net zero. watch now look, i am a big believer— at net zero. watch now look, i am a big believer that we should tave— am a big believer that we should have a— am a big believer that we should have a tot— am a big believer that we should have a tot ot— am a big believer that we should have a lot of pomp— am a big believer that we should have a lot of pomp and ceremony about— have a lot of pomp and ceremony about two— have a lot of pomp and ceremony about this country. _ have a lot of pomp and ceremony about this country. and to be toteet— about this country. and to be toteet wttt— about this country. and to be honest with you,— about this country. and to be honest with you, i don't really atout— honest with you, i don't really care about him— honest with you, i don't really care about him getting a plane trott— care about him getting a plane trort rt— care about him getting a plane trort a to— care about him getting a plane trort a to t.— care about him getting a plane from a to b. what— care about him getting a plane from a to b. what i do care about— from a to b. what i do care about to— from a to b. what i do care about is that— from a to b. what i do care about is that we're all having to pay— about is that we're all having to pay ttrougt— about is that we're all having to pay through the nose for a toad— to pay through the nose for a toad ot— to pay through the nose for a toad ot tet— to pay through the nose for a load of net zero— to pay through the nose for a load of net zero policies and aeettae— load of net zero policies and aeettae ttat— load of net zero policies and agendas that it— load of net zero policies and agendas that it would appear that— agendas that it would appear that the— agendas that it would appear that the people _ agendas that it would appear that the people who are in charge— that the people who are in charge _those. that the people who are in- charge _those policies charge of making those policies tot-t— charge of making those policies don't—themselves. charge of making those policies don't themselves . don't care about themselves. tttt— don't care about themselves. two-tor— don't care about themselves. two-tor nte— don't care about themselves. this _for me represents. this story for me represents that staggering disconnect between in the political class , between in the political class, which has this hugely ambitious plan to change everything about our lives as we lead them at the moment, and how it how our economy is powered. and that's a hugely ambitious plan. net zero is a plan which we don't even know if we can achieve it. we know if we can achieve it. we know it will certainly result in lots of costs for ordinary people . and yet the elite class people. and yet the elite class who preach the virtues of this

plan nevertheless think that it doesn't apply to them. i think, too, that the prime minister should be flying around. he needs to be visiting the whole country and be meeting other leaders around the world. he does need to get around and flying is probably the best way for him to do that. however with the net zero agenda, everything is sacrificed on the green altar. it's carbon dioxide emissions, which are seen as the most important thing . and so most important thing. and so this is totally disconnected with that agenda that he thinks people should follow. but but he well, i just wonder whether or not whether or not actually this does highlight the fact that they think it's a load of rubbish as well themselves. you know , they think it's just- know, they think it's just wtttow— know, they think it's just window dressing. it's just big greet— window dressing. it's just big. greet—root window dressing. it's just big. gre at —roet window dressing. it's just big. great the —roet window dressing. it's just big great the latest rock window dressing. it's just big great the latest cop rock window dressing. it's just big great the latest cop summit.k window dressing. it's just big great the latest cop summit. and up at the latest cop summit. and i'll up at the latest cop summit. and r-tt taw— up at the latest cop summit. and r-tt saw two— up at the latest cop summit. and i'll say this about— up at the latest cop summit. and i'll say this about that and r-tt— i'll say this about that and m teet— i'll say this about that and i'll keep-green- i'll say this about that and i'll keep green lobby happy i'll keep the green lobby happy and i'll keep the green lobby happy ate-tate— i'll keep the green lobby happy and-make the- i'll keep the green lobby happy and make the taxpayer and i'll, i'll make the taxpayer payers— and i'll, i'll make the taxpayer payers etatge— and i'll, i'll make the taxpayer payers change lives and payers change their lives and wett— payers change their lives and we'll—introduce. we'll do this. i'll introduce a 15 we'll do this. i'll introduce a to rtttute— we'll do this. i'll introduce a 15 minute city— we'll do this. i'll introduce a 15 minute city here oh, 15 minute city here and, oh, toot— 15 minute city here and, oh, tootlttts — 15 minute city here and, oh, look-this. it's— 15 minute city here and, oh, look-this. it's a- 15 minute city here and, oh, look this. it's a ulez look at this. it's a ulez

etarge. — look at this. it's a ulez charge. meanwhile how charge. meanwhile it's like, how are—rust— charge. meanwhile it's like, how are—rust tortt- charge. meanwhile it's like, how are—just north of- are you getting just north of the— are you getting just north of the border?— are you getting just north of the border? rishi well, i'm going— the border? rishi well, i'm gottg to— the border? rishi well, i'm gottg to get— the border? rishi well, i'm going to get in_ the border? rishi well, i'm going to get in a plane and i'm going— going to get in a plane and i'm gottg to— going to get in a plane and i'm gottg tolttere.— going to get in a plane and i'm going to there. sorry, going to fly there. i'm sorry, tut— going to fly there. i'm sorry, tut-shoute- going to fly there. i'm sorry, but-should you. going to fly there. i'm sorry,l but-should you and but why? why should you and i att— but why? why should you and i att eeorwte— but why? why should you and i and everyone watching this etattet— and everyone watching this etattet te— and everyone watching this channel be expected to havei s—eetttts seven different recycling bins wtet— seven different recycling bins wtet ttts— seven different recycling bins when this geezer just seven different recycling bins when this geezerjust gets seven different recycling bins when this geezer just gets on a plane— when this geezer just gets on a plane-flies— when this geezer just gets on a plane flies scotland ? plane and flies to scotland? there-s— plane and flies to scotland? there's-intellectual- plane and flies to scotland? there's intellectual discount there's an intellectual discount checked. if these people actually believed the world was about to end, it was one minute to midnight. as boris johnson said at cop26. then they would surely not be doing these things . they don't believe what they're saying . they're too weak they're saying. they're too weak willed to challenge, you know , a willed to challenge, you know, a pervasive ideology that holds that climate change is this existential threat . that's not existential threat. that's not actually what the science shows us. you know, the science shows climate change is real, it's manmade. it will have implications. however this exaggeration, this apocalypse tick narrative is almost a new religion . and politicians are religion. and politicians are too afraid to challenge it despite the massive implications

that it's going to have. you know , the conservative party know, the conservative party should be about right protecting people's living standards should be about enhancing their economic opportunities . be about enhancing their economic opportunities. but be about enhancing their economic opportunities . but what economic opportunities. but what it seems to represent under this government is more and more bans on everything that people want to do higher and higher green taxes. and so you have to question that the party is completely lost. its way on this particular issue . i think you're particular issue. i think you're rtgtt— particular issue. i think you're rtgtt to— particular issue. i think you're right to highlight— particular issue. i think you're right to highlight the- tiger?” i think you're right to highlight the total disconnect.— right to highlight the total disconnect. but i mean, we see it disconnect. but i mean, we see tt tot— disconnect. but i mean, we see tt tot rust— disconnect. but i mean, we see it not just with— disconnect. but i mean, we see it not just with politics, and i tot-t— it not just with politics, and i tot-t watt— it not just with politics, and i tot-t watt to— it not just with politics, and i don't want to unfairly dig rishi sutat— don't want to unfairly dig rishi sutat out— don't want to unfairly dig rishi sunak out here,— don't want to unfairly dig rishi sunak out here, but it's a pretty— sunak out here, but it's a pretty blatant— sunak out here, but it's a pretty blatant example of the teotte— pretty blatant example of the teotte wto— pretty blatant example of the teotte who are— pretty blatant example of the people who are in positions of power— people who are in positions of power torettg— people who are in positions of power forcing big— people who are in positions of power forcing big green laws on the ortttaw— power forcing big green laws on the ordinary common and the ordinary common man and wortatito— the ordinary common man and woman to themselves . we abiding to them themselves. we tave— abiding to them themselves. we tawe-rrttee— abiding to them themselves. we have-prince harry- abiding to them themselves. we have prince harry jetting have had prince harry jetting aoutt— have had prince harry jetting around himself.— have had prince harry jetting around himself. of course, we've atso— around himself. of course, we've atso tat— around himself. of course, we've also had numerous— around himself. of course, we've also had numerous different celebrities.— also had numerous different- celebrities._emma celebrities. i think it was emma ttorttsot— celebrities. i think it was emma ttorttsot-ttew— celebrities. i think it was emma thompson flew business class thompson who flew business class attegettw—tte- allegedly into one of the extinction— allegedly into one of the extinction rebellion marches , extinction rebellion marches, wttet— extinction rebellion marches, which-ridiculous. - extinction rebellion marches, which ridiculous. if which is just ridiculous. if ttteet— which is just ridiculous. if indeed-true.- which is just ridiculous. if indeed true. and indeed that was true. and you've got-these— indeed that was true. and you've got-ttese teotte- indeed that was true. and you've got these people now who got all of these people now who appear— got all of these people now who appear to— got all of these people now who appear to te— got all of these people now who appear to be doing— got all of these people now who appear to be doing a load of ttts— appear to be doing a load of ttts wtt— appear to be doing a load of ttts tttt ot— appear to be doing a load of this kind of stuff— appear to be doing a load of this kind of stuff and just

this kind of stuff and i just i mean, davos as— this kind of stuff and i just i mean, davos as well, people tettttg— mean, davos as well, people tettttgltrort— mean, davos as well, people jetting from around the jetting in from all around the worm— jetting in from all around the wortt-to— jetting in from all around the world-to tell- jetting in from all around the world _to tell us- jetting in from all around the world to tell us about how world there to tell us about how we-to— world there to tell us about how we-to att— world there to tell us about how we-to att te— world there to tell us about how we to all be greener. and i we need to all be greener. and i r-we rust— we need to all be greener. and i mean, i've just had— we need to all be greener. and i mean, i've just had email in mean, i've just had an email in here— mean, i've just had an email in here trort — mean, i've just had an email in here from david— mean, i've just had an email in here from david who says, i wot-t— here from david who says, i won't believe _ here from david who says, i won't believe there's a climate ertsts— won't believe there's a climate ertsts utttt— won't believe there's a climate crisis until-elites- won't believe there's a climate crisis until elites stop crisis until the elites stop ttts— crisis until the elites stop this behaviour— crisis until the elites stop this behaviour highlights this behaviour. it highlights to me this behaviour. it highlights to rte-oteltwo- this behaviour. it highlights to me one two things. me maybe one of two things. tttter— me maybe one of two things. either-elites— me maybe one of two things. either elites don't either the elites don't getuttetw— either the elites don't genuinely that either the elites don't- genuinely-that there genuinely believe that there is a-etsts — genuinely believe that there is a-crisis. they're- genuinely believe that there is a crisis. they're just a climate crisis. they're just tettttg— a climate crisis. they're just tettttg us— a climate crisis. they're just telling us that— a climate crisis. they're just telling us that-is- a climate crisis. they're just telling us that is because telling us that there is because thew— telling us that there is because thew-watt— telling us that there is because thew-watt to— telling us that there is because they-want to be - telling us that there is because they want to be shouted at they don't want to be shouted at by they don't want to be shouted at to greta— they don't want to be shouted at by greta thunberg_ they don't want to be shouted at by greta thunberg or they are acknowledging— by greta thunberg or they are acknowledging matter by greta thunberg or they are ackn(we3dging matter by greta thunberg or they are ackn(we really matter by greta thunberg or they are ackn(we really do, matter by greta thunberg or they are ackn(we really do, we matter by greta thunberg or they are ackn(we really do, we cannot' what we really do, we cannot tutettot— what we really do, we cannot tutettot as— what we really do, we cannot function as a— what we really do, we cannot function as a society if we astuattw— function as a society if we actually-some- function as a society if we actually some of the function as a society if we- actually-some of the green actually enact some of the green taws— actually enact some of the green taws ttat— actually enact some of the green taws that they— actually enact some of the green laws that they want us to do, teause— laws that they want us to do, because sometimes our prime wtttster— because sometimes our prime wtttsterlgottg— because sometimes our prime minister going have to get minister is going to have to get in minister is going to have to get ttlptate.— minister is going to have to get in plane. sometimes we're in a plane. sometimes we're going— in a plane. sometimes we're gottg—ott- in a plane. sometimes we're gottg—ott att in a plane. sometimes we're- gottg—ott att gas going to have to use oil and gas att—wou— going to have to use oil and gas att—wou ttow- going to have to use oil and gas| and—you know, we're and sometimes, you know, we're not and sometimes, you know, we're tot gottg— and sometimes, you know, we're tot gottg-tave— and sometimes, you know, we're not going have enough wind not going to have enough wind tarts— not going to have enough wind tarts-att— not going to have enough wind tarrtslatt to— not going to have enough wind farms-all to-run- not going to have enough wind farms all to run our day farms at all to just run our day to-ttwes— farms at all to just run our day to-ttwes — farms at all to just run our day to-ttwes ia— farms at all to just run our day to-lives. .a hugely- to day lives. it's a hugely classist agenda. think the classist agenda. i think the green agenda, because ultimately when start put when we start to put restrictions driving , on restrictions is on driving, on flying. those become flying. those things become unaffordable for the poorest first. now, this isn't an economy that's becoming more accessible. it's not about raising aspiration, increasing social mobility . see the green

social mobility. see the green economy of the future is about pulling up the drawbridge so that only the very richest people can afford to do these things . so i people can afford to do these things. so i think this is so clear in the prime minister's activities and i think people need to actually be prepared to stand up and protect those things for ordinary people . i things for ordinary people. i mean, actually it doesn't even help the environment because , help the environment because, you know, technology, innovation in getting the costs of these green products down is what's going to deliver a faster transition in the future . trying transition in the future. trying to push failed product is making people buy evs before they're ready to banning gas boilers . ready to banning gas boilers. now, this is an approach that smacks of huge government intervention when, you know, we know that these kind of approaches don't work . we have approaches don't work. we have the lesson of the whole previous. idon't the lesson of the whole previous. i don't like the twpoetsw— previous. i don't like the twpoertsw ot— previous. i don't like the hypocrisy of it,- i don't like the hypocrisy of it, harry. i don't twe— hypocrisy of it, harry. i don't ttte r— hypocrisy of it, harry. i don't ttte r tot-t— hypocrisy of it, harry. i don't like i don't like— hypocrisy of it, harry. i don't like i don't like the hypocrisy of like i don't like the hypocrisy ot rt.— like i don't like the hypocrisy ot tt. tarry. — like i don't like the hypocrisy of it. harry. and— like i don't like the hypocrisy

of it. harry. and i— like i don't like the hypocrisy of it. harry. and i think you're rtgtt— of it. harry. and i think you're rtgtt to— of it. harry. and i think you're right to identify— of it. harry. and i think you're right to identify that there is tetttttetw— right to identify that there is definitely some— right to identify that there is definitely some kind of class rssue— definitely some kind of class gottg— definitely some kind of class gottg ot— definitely some kind of class issue going on here. when you took— issue going on here. when you took at— issue going on here. when you took at sorte— issue going on here. when you look at some of— issue going on here. when you look at some of the names of the peopte— look at some of the names of the peopte wto— look at some of the names of the peopte who are— look at some of the names of the people who are _the - look at some of the names of the people who are the just people who are doing the just stop— people who are doing the just stop ort— people who are doing the just stop oil process,— people who are doing the just stop oil process, it's their stop oil process, it's all their tertograpttes— stop oil process, it's all their demographics, they're demographics, all where they're trott— demographics, all where they're trot—rt-sl from and their lifestyles. it's eetera— from and their lifestyles. it's eetera-tot— from and their lifestyles. it's cetera - lot of - from and their lifestyles. it's cetera lot of them family cetera and a lot of them family rtotew—tte- money stuff. these are the peopte— money stuff. these are the peopte wto— money stuff. these are the people who can- money stuff. these are the people who can sit there and arrow— people who can sit there and attort to— people who can sit there and afford to make— people who can sit there and afford to make working class peopte-s— people's lives utterly miserable wttte— people's lives utterly miserablei wttte—att while they themselves retire and watert— while they themselves retire and water—rte- while they themselves retire and watch—the otheri watch a documentary. the other day,— watch a documentary. the other taw ote— watch a documentary. the other taw ot— watch a documentary. the other taw, ot the— watch a documentary. the other day, one of the prominent terterst— day, one of the prominent members of— day, one of the prominent members of extinction rebellion owts-ott— members of extinction rebellion owns-off scotland - members of extinction rebellion owns off scotland and owns an island off scotland and where— owns an island off scotland and where-daughters— owns an island off scotland and where daughters live and can where his daughters live and can retreat— where his daughters live and can retreat to— where his daughters live and can retreat to there. _ where his daughters live and can retreat to there. clearly never going— retreat to there. clearly never gottg to— retreat to there. clearly never gottg to tave— retreat to there. clearly never going to have any money issues in going to have any money issues tt-ttte.— going to have any money issues tt-ttte. thew— going to have any money issues in-life. they don't- going to have any money issues in life. they don't bother in their life. they don't bother tawtg— in their life. they don't bother tawtg to— in their life. they don't bother tawtg to get— in their life. they don't bother tawtg to get a— in their life. they don't bother having to get a job. they went to utt— having to get a job. they went to uttlttttt— having to get a job. they went to uni,ithink-for- having to get a job. they went to uni, think for the to uni, i think just for the totet— to uni, i think just for the token effort— to uni, i think just for the token effort at- to uni, i think just for the token effort at the taxpayer's expense, which they're never going— expense, which they're never gottg-past. - expense, which they're never gottg-past. .ottwi going to pay back. the only sawtg— going to pay back. the only sawtg grate— going to pay back. the only saving grace-me- going to pay back. the only saving grace me as far as saving grace for me as far as i ts ttat— saving grace for me as far as i can see is that there appears to be a— can see is that there appears to be a tart— can see is that there appears to be a tart att— can see is that there appears to be a hard and fast— can see is that there appears to be a hard and fast rule at just stop— be a hard and fast rule at just stop ort— be a hard and fast rule at just stop on att— be a hard and fast rule at just stop oil and places like that where— stop oil and places like that where-tott— stop oil and places like that where don't want have where they don't want to have ttts— where they don't want to have kids _ because i where they don't want to have l kids _ because they kids going forward because they tot-t— kids going forward because they tot-t watt— kids going forward because they tot-t watt to— kids going forward because they don't want to introduce them two— don't want to introduce them ttto-wortt. — don't want to introduce them into .world. so, - don't want to introduce them into world. so, you into this world. so, you know, topetuttw—to i into this world. so, you know,| topetuttw—to put into this world. so, you know,- hopefullv_t0 put up hopefully we only have to put up wttt— hopefully we only have to put up wttt ttert— hopefully we only have to put up wttt ttert tor— hopefully we only have to put up with them for a— hopefully we only have to put up with them for a generation or two.— with them for a generation or two. out— with them for a generation or two. but-thank- with them for a generation or two. but thank you very two. but harry, thank you very rtuet. — two. but harry, thank you very much. _wilkinson- two. but harry, thank you very much. wilkinson there, two. but harry, thank you very much.the wilkinson there, two. but harry, thank you very much.the headlkinson there, two. but harry, thank you very

much.the headlkiipolicyiere, two. but harry, thank you very much.the headlkiipolicy ate, two. but harry, thank you very much.the headlkiipolicy at net who's the head of policy at net zero. _now, we all- who's the head of policy at net zero. now, we all know zero. watch now, we all know that— zero. watch now, we all know that the— zero. watch now, we all know that the us— zero. watch now, we all know that the us president, joe treet— that the us president, joej biden,_making that the us president, joel biden,_making a biden, is prone to making a rttstate— biden, is prone to making a mistake .two,_ biden, is prone to making a mistake two, whether it's mistake or two, but whether it's tattttg— mistake or two, but whether it's tattttg up— mistake or two, but whether it's falling up-stairs,_ mistake or two, but whether it's falling up stairs, not once, falling up the stairs, not once, tot— falling up the stairs, not once, tot twee— falling up the stairs, not once, not twice, but— falling up the stairs, not once, not twice, but three times, statttg— not twice, but three times, shaking or shaking hands with nobody or eruetattw— shaking hands with nobody or crucially sniffing young crucially sniffing a young gtrt-s— crucially sniffing a young gtrt-s-tow- crucially sniffing a young- girl's- now forgotten girl's hair, he's now forgotten the— girl's hair, he's now forgotten tte-eouttw— girl's hair, he's now forgotten the-country he- girl's hair, he's now forgotten the country he visited the last country he visited when he was— the last country he visited when he asket — the last country he visited when he was asked questions by street.— he was asked questions by children-all- he was asked questions by- children.-all appreciate children. now we all appreciate that— children. now we all appreciate ttat joe— children. now we all appreciate ttat roe treet— children. now we all appreciate that joe biden has, what shall we eat— that joe biden has, what shall we call them,— that joe biden has, what shall we call them, mind ears. right. sut— we call them, mind ears. right. out here— we call them, mind ears. right. out here te— we call them, mind ears. right. but here he is— we call them, mind ears. right. but here he is trying to answer guesttots— but here he is trying to answer questions posed— but here he is trying to answer questions posed to him by actual ottttret— questions posed to him by actual ottttret .— questions posed to him by actual ottttret . rust— questions posed to him by actual children . just take— questions posed to him by actual children . just take a look at children. just take a look at ttts.— children. just take a look at ttts. wtat— children. just take a look at this. what was— children. just take a look at this. what was the last country you— this. what was the last country you trawettet— this. what was the last country you travelled to?— this. what was the last country you travelled to? the last souttrw— you travelled to? the last souttrw twe— you travelled to? the last country i've travelled. i'm tttttttg— country i've travelled. i'm thinking, what's with the last r— thinking, what's with the last r was— thinking, what's with the last one i was in?— thinking, what's with the last one i was in? i— thinking, what's with the last one i was in? i i've been to 89. i one i was in? i i've been to 89. r tet— one i was in? i i've been to 89. r rtet wttt— one i was in? i i've been to 89. r rtet wttt ss— one i was in? i i've been to 89. i met with 89 heads of state so far i met with 89 heads of state so tar .— i met with 89 heads of state so tar . so— i met with 89 heads of state so tar . so ttt— i met with 89 heads of state so tar . so rrt trwtg— i met with 89 heads of state so far. so i'm trying to think what tte— far. so i'm trying to think what tte tast— far. so i'm trying to think what was the last, where was the last ptaee— was the last, where was the last ptaee r— was the last, where was the last ptaee r — was the last, where was the last place i was? it's— was the last, where was the last place i was? it's hard- was the last, where was the last place i was? 0 “at: place i was? it's hard to keep track . i was i mean, yeah, track. i was i mean, yeah, you're right. ireland that sure it you're right. ireland that sure tt was— you're right. ireland that sure tt . — you're right. ireland that sure tt . tow— you're right. ireland that sure tt . tow r— you're right. ireland that sure it was. how i mean , it's a hard

it was. how i mean, it's a hard watch and a hard lesson , isn't watch and a hard lesson, isn't it, that really apparently also forgot that the name of top gun again a child had to put him out of his misery there. incidentally, of course, of his misery there. - incidentally, of course, he's going— incidentally, of course, he's gottg to— incidentally, of course, he's gottg to ut— incidentally, of course, he's going to run for— incidentally, of course, he's going to run for a second term in going to run for a second term tt otttee. — going to run for a second term tt otttee. r— going to run for a second term in office. i just— going to run for a second term in office. i just find that atsotutetw— in office. i just find that absolutely staggering, to be totest— absolutely staggering, to be honest with _ absolutely staggering, to be honest with you. i just wanted to stow— honest with you. i just wanted to stow wou— honest with you. i just wanted to show you that— honest with you. i just wanted to show you that really that joe tttet— to show you that really that joe the. tte — to show you that really that joe biden, the president of the utter— biden, the president of the united apparently united states, apparently struggtes— struggles to answer questions trott— struggles to answer questions trot-r— struggles to answer questions from-i thought- struggles to answer questions from i thought maybe from kids. so i thought maybe we ooutt— from kids. so i thought maybe we court—ttat- from kids. so i thought maybe we could _that just- could do it knowing that just going— could do it knowing that just gottglttttst— could do it knowing that just going finish this hour going to finish this hour off wttt— going to finish this hour off wtttltetwe— going to finish this hour off with l delve into - going to finish this hour off with delve into the terrifying with a delve into the terrifying wortt— with a delve into the terrifying worttlrtw— with a delve into the terrifying world-my inbox.— with a delve into the terrifying world my inbox. loads of world of my inbox. loads of reaettot— world of my inbox. loads of reaction-the— world of my inbox. loads of reaction the charles reaction to the king charles poputarttw— reaction to the king charles popularity support popularity story. i support ctartes— popularity story. i support charles-even- popularity story. i support charles even though charles as king, even though tatt— charles as king, even though ttatw—r- charles as king, even thoughi ttatw—r-tte charles as king, even though- many_i-like him many moons ago i didn't like him or cartttta— many moons ago i didn't like him or cartttta as— many moons ago i didn't like him or camilla as i— many moons ago i didn't like him or camilla as i have— many moons ago i didn't like him or camilla as i have aged ttrougt— or camilla as i have aged ttrougt tw— or camilla as i have aged through my wisdom and life epetetee— through my wisdom and life experience,-seel through my wisdom and life. experience,-see how experience, i can now see how watuatte— experience, i can now see how watuatte-att- experience, i can now see how valuable and charles is. valuable camilla and charles is. ttat-s— valuable camilla and charles is. that's-caroline. _ valuable camilla and charles is. that's caroline. yes. thank that's from caroline. yes. thank you—tor— that's from caroline. yes. thank you—tor ttat,- you very much for that, carotte.— you very much for that, caroline. suspect there's you very much for that, caroliaz. suspect there's you very much for that, caroliaz. of;pect there's you very much for that, caroliaz. of this there's you very much for that, caroliaz. of this going s you very much for that, caroliaz. of this going around quite a lot of this going around as—ttstt— quite a lot of this going around as_rishi sunak- quite a lot of this going around. as_rishi sunak issue as well on the rishi sunak issue as well on the rishi sunak issue as..— as well on the rishi sunak issue as- ttsotutetw— as well. absolutely hypocritical. this as well. absolutely- hypocritical. _this is the hypocritical. now, this is the ttat— hypocritical. now, this is the ttat r— hypocritical. now, this is the one that i said— hypocritical. now, this is the one that i said to you. he's just— one that i said to you. he's tust ttowt— one that i said to you. he's just flown from _ one that i said to you. he's just flown from scotland to wares— just flown from scotland to wates to — just flown from scotland to wales to attend— just flown from scotland to wales to attend both of the conservative _ wales to attend both of the i conservative _there. conservative conferences there. rt-s— conservative conferences there. it's _ hypocritical. - conservative conferences there. it's him hypocritical. conservative conferences there. it's him and pocritical. conservative conferences there. it's him and they'real. at not just him and they're all at it. not just him and they're all at t. rt-s— not just him and they're all at t. rt-s ote— not just him and they're all at it. it's one law— not just him and they're all at it. it's one law for— not just him and they're all at it. it's one law for them and tor— it. it's one law for them and

tor tte— it. it's one law for them and one for the rest— it. it's one law for them and one for the rest of us. and ttat-s— one for the rest of us. and was trort — one for the rest of us. and that's from john. and can't that's from john. and i can't tetp— that's from john. and i can't tetp tut— that's from john. and i can't help but wonder,— that's from john. and i can't help but wonder, john, whether or—ttts— help but wonder, john, whether or—tttsltust- or not actually this is just going— or not actually this is just going happening now or not actually this is just- going-happening now is going to keep happening now is the going to keep happening now is tte-ettes— going to keep happening now is the-elites in— going to keep happening now is the elites in society the kind of elites in society to— the kind of elites in society can do whatever- the kind of elites in society can do whatever they want. and the can do whatever they want. andi tte—tawe can do whatever they want. andi tttput—tawe can do whatever they want. andi tttput up—tawe can do whatever they want. andi tht put up with _ have can do whatever they want. and thtput up with huge, have can do whatever they want. and thtput up with huge, big have can do whatever they want. and thtput up with huge, big green/e to put up with huge, big green tewes— to put up with huge, big green tewes-att— to put up with huge, big green levies-all of— to put up with huge, big green levies-all of that- to put up with huge, big green levies all of that stuff. levies and all of that stuff. tut— levies and all of that stuff. tut ttere— levies and all of that stuff. but there we _ levies and all of that stuff. but there we are. look, i've got toats— but there we are. look, i've got toats tore— but there we are. look, i've got loads more coming— but there we are. look, i've got loads more coming your way ttrougtout— loads more coming your way throughout course of this throughout the course of this stow. — throughout the course of this stow. _tte — throughout the course of this show.-the next- throughout the course of this show. the next hour, the show. and in the next hour, the wet—teet— show. and in the next hour, the met—been accusedi show. and in the next hour, the. met—been accused of show. and in the next hour, the mcalamitous been accused of show. and in the next hour, the mcalamitous litanyen accused of show. and in the next hour, the mcalamitous litany of accused of show. and in the next hour, the mcalamitous litany of failures of a calamitous litany of failures arter— a calamitous litany of failures after-killer- a calamitous litany of failures after killer murdered after a serial killer murdered tour— after a serial killer murdered four—teenagers. after a serial killer murdered. four—teenagers have four men, three teenagers have teet— four men, three teenagers have teet arrestet— four men, three teenagers have been arrested on— four men, three teenagers have been arrested on suspicion of rturert— been arrested on suspicion of rturert tt— been arrested on suspicion of rturert tt tte— been arrested on suspicion of murder in the west midlands. ttrtost— murder in the west midlands. almost day almost 600, 700 burglaries a day wett— almost 600, 700 burglaries a day wett utsotwet— almost 600, 700 burglaries a day went unsolved .year- almost 600, 700 burglaries a day went unsolved year alone. i went unsolved last year alone. i am went unsolved last year alone. i at att— went unsolved last year alone. i at att r— went unsolved last year alone. i am and i think— went unsolved last year alone. i am and i think quite rightly so, astttg— am and i think quite rightly so, astttg wtat— am and i think quite rightly so, asking what on— am and i think quite rightly so, asking what on earth is going ott— asking what on earth is going ote tre— asking what on earth is going ote are we— asking what on earth is going on? are we living— asking what on earth is going on? are we living in lawless g.p.p..p_ on? are we living in lawless britain? that's— on? are we living in lawless britain? that's what i want to ttow. — britain? that's what i want to ttow. ttt— britain? that's what i want to know. i'm patrick— britain? that's what i want to know. i'm patrick christys on gb wews— know. i'm patrick christys on gb wews ttt— know. i'm patrick christys on gb wews r-tt te— know. i'm patrick christys on gb news i'll be bringing you all ttat— news i'll be bringing you all ttat too.— news i'll be bringing you all that too. you _ news i'll be bringing you all that too. you make sure that you do that too. you make sure that you to get— that too. you make sure that you to get tt— that too. you make sure that you to get tt toust— that too. you make sure that you do get in touch. don't be shy. gbviews@gbnews.uk i'll also be tattttg— gbviews@gbnews.uk i'll also be tattttgleourse— gbviews@gbnews.uk i'll also be talking, course, about talking, of course, about a potetttat— talking, of course, about a potential clear—out at the bbc arter— potential clear—out at the bbc after-chairman- potential clear—out at the bbc after chairman decided after their chairman has decided to—swort— after their chairman has decided to_sword after- after their chairman has decided to sword after links to fall on his sword after links to fall on his sword after links to-rottsot.— to fall on his sword after links to _johnson..that- to fall on his sword after links to johnson. that the to boris johnson. is that the otw— to boris johnson. is that the ottw etertett— to boris johnson. is that the only element of— to boris johnson. is that the only element of political bias in only element of political bias ttltte— only element of political bias ttltte stee— only element of political bias in the bbc? 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channel very i channel| very good i channel- very good evening, |ctattet— very good evening, everybody. ratrtet— very good evening, everybody. patrick christys— very good evening, everybody. patrick christys here on gb wews. — patrick christys here on gb wews. ttt— patrick christys here on gb news. i'll be— patrick christys here on gb news. i'll be with you for the text— news. i'll be with you for the text tour— news. i'll be with you for the next hour right— news. i'll be with you for the next hour right now. so police report— next hour right now. so police report retwttg— next hour right now. so police report relying on— next hour right now. so police report relying on luck to catch serrat— report relying on luck to catch serial killers,— report relying on luck to catch serial killers, teenagers attegettw— serial killers, teenagers allegedly murder a chap in wuteatot.— allegedly murder a chap in nuneaton. we've got a murder in soottatt.— nuneaton. we've got a murder in scotland. we've— nuneaton. we've got a murder in scotland. we've had no burglaries— scotland. we've had no burglaries being sold around 600 turgtartes— burglaries being sold around 600 turgtartes a— burglaries being sold around 600 turgtartes a taw— burglaries being sold around 600 burglaries a day to— burglaries being sold around 600 burglaries a day to go unsolved. ttt— burglaries a day to go unsolved. ttt a— burglaries a day to go unsolved. ttt a stap— burglaries a day to go unsolved. ttt a etap ot— burglaries a day to go unsolved. and a chap on the— burglaries a day to go unsolved. and a chap on the loose with a erowat— and a chap on the loose with a erowat tt— and a chap on the loose with a crowbar in manchester terrorised the crowbar in manchester terrorised tte gaw— crowbar in manchester terrorised the gay community. are we living in the gay community. are we living tt tawtess— the gay community. are we living in lawless britain?— the gay community. are we living in lawless britain? what on eartt— in lawless britain? what on eartt ts— in lawless britain? what on earth is happening on the streets— earth is happening on the streets ot— earth is happening on the streets of britain? in other news as well,— streets of britain? in other news as well, i'm going to be tattttg— news as well, i'm going to be talking about— news as well, i'm going to be talking about this. so the royal poputarttw— talking about this. so the royal popularity contest has been oottuetet— popularity contest has been conducted and— popularity contest has been conducted and a poll shows that tttg— conducted and a poll shows that tttg ctartes— conducted and a poll shows that king charles is— conducted and a poll shows that king charles is nowhere near the most— king charles is nowhere near the most poputar— king charles is nowhere near the most popular royal.— king charles is nowhere near the most popular royal. in fact,

wttts— most popular royal. in fact, wttts att— most popular royal. in fact, wills and kate— most popular royal. in fact, wills and kate massively above ttt— wills and kate massively above ttrt. r— wills and kate massively above ttrt. r tave— wills and kate massively above ttrt. r tawe got— wills and kate massively above him. i have got a— wills and kate massively above him. i have got a big debate sortttg— him. i have got a big debate sortttg your— him. i have got a big debate coming your way— him. i have got a big debate coming your way on this. and tt-s— coming your way on this. and tt-s gottg— coming your way on this. and tt-s gottg to— coming your way on this. and tt-s gottg to get— coming your way on this. and it's going to get a lot of you very— it's going to get a lot of you wery atgrw— it's going to get a lot of you very angry, which is whether or not very angry, which is whether or tot ctartes— very angry, which is whether or not charles should actually have attteatet— not charles should actually have abdicated .wills_ not charles should actually have abdicated wills and we're abdicated for wills and we're arso— abdicated for wills and we're atso—tattttg- also going to be talking about ttts— also going to be talking about ttts as— also going to be talking about ttts as-ttc— also going to be talking about this as-bbc bias.- also going to be talking about this as bbc bias. well, this as well. bbc bias. well, oesa-w— this as well. bbc bias. well, oesa-w tt-s- this as well. bbc bias. well, some-say it's got. this as well. bbc bias. well, some say it's got a right some people say it's got a right wttg—peopte- some people say it's got a right wttg—peopte saw- some people say it's got a right wing people say it's wing bias. some people say it's gotltett— wing bias. some people say it's gotltett-ttas.— wing bias. some people say it's gotlleft-bias. but- wing bias. some people say it's got left bias. but that got a left wing bias. but that toss— got a left wing bias. but that toss-gutt— got a left wing bias. but that toss-gutt- why- got a left wing bias. but that boss quit. why such boss has quit. why is it such a protterte— boss has quit. why is it such a problem? this— boss has quit. why is it such a problem? this chap, richard stap— problem? this chap, richard spa... was— problem? this chap, richard sharp, was megxit with boris rottsot. — sharp, was megxit with boris johnson. we've— sharp, was megxit with boris johnson. we've had previous tatour— labour donors, etcetera getting the labour donors, etcetera getting tte—wet. - labour donors, etcetera getting tte—wet. rsl labour donors, etcetera getting tte—wet. rs tti the top job there as well. is it ttrte— the top job there as well. is it ttrte tor— the top job there as well. is it time for root— the top job there as well. is it time for root and— the top job there as well. is it time for root and branch reform at—got— time for root and branch reform at—got att- time for root and branch reform at—got att ot- time for root and branch reform at_got all of this| at the bbc? i've got all of this oortttg— at the bbc? i've got all of this sortttg your— at the bbc? i've got all of this sortttg your way— at the bbc? i've got all of this coming your way and loads more as wett— coming your way and loads more as wet wttt— coming your way and loads more as well with me— coming your way and loads more as well with me patrick christys rtgtt— as well with me patrick christys rtgtt tere— as well with me patrick christys rtgtt tere ot— as well with me patrick christys rtgtt tere ot .— as well with me patrick christys right here on . gb— as well with me patrick christys right here on . gb news. yes, all right here on. gb news. yes, all of right here on. gb news. yes, all ot ttat— right here on. gb news. yes, all ot ttat att— right here on. gb news. yes, all of that and much,— right here on. gb news. yes, all of that and much, much more. vaiews@gbnews.uk is of course the vaiews@gbnews.uk is of course tte ertatt— vaiews@gbnews.uk is of course the email address— vaiews@gbnews.uk is of course the email address . i want to the email address. i want to ttow— the email address. i want to ttow tour— the email address. i want to know your taste. _ the email address. i want to know your taste. do you feel sate — know your taste. do you feel sate tt— know your taste. do you feel safe in britain— know your taste. do you feel safe in britain ?_ know your taste. do you feel safe in britain ? do you feel safe in britain? do you feel more or less— safe in britain? do you feel more or less safe than you felt, say,— more or less safe than you felt, saw tet— more or less safe than you felt, saw, tet wears— more or less safe than you felt, say, ten years ago?— more or less safe than you felt, say, ten years ago? do you think w-weea-— say, ten years ago? do you think we've a massive problem when we've got a massive problem when it we've got a massive problem when t totes— we've got a massive problem when t ertoestt-— we've got a massive problem when it comes-in this- it comes to crime in this souttw— it comes to crime in thisj souttrw—ewet it comes to crime in this- country_even the country and maybe even the psychology— country and maybe even the psychology younger psychology of some younger peoptee— psychology of some younger peopteeltot— psychology of some younger people?.lot of— psychology of some younger people? lot of people blame people? a lot of people blame the people? a lot of people blame tte paretts— people? 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people? a lot of people blame. the parents,-they?-do people? a lot of people blame. the make s,-they?-do people? a lot of people blame. the make of-they?-do people? a lot of people blame the make of that?they? do people? a lot of people blame the make of that?they’tof do people? a lot of people blame the make of that?they’tof course, you make of that? and of course, yes,— you make of that? and of course, vest-bag— you make of that? and of course, tes-tag so— you make of that? and of course, tes-tag so tar— you make of that? and of course, tes-tag so tar ot- you make of that? and of course, yes, bag so far on this. yes, mixed bag so far on this. stoutt— yes, mixed bag so far on this. should charles— yes, mixed bag so far on this. should charles abdicated should charles have abdicated for should charles have abdicated tor wtttart— should charles have abdicated for william indeed, that for william or indeed, is that rust— for william or indeed, is that just-offensive- for william or indeed, is that just offensive and just deeply offensive and a treat— just deeply offensive and a break tradition? views break with tradition? gb views oriwews.— break with tradition? gb views oriwews. ut— break with tradition? gb views or news. .uk. now though, or gb news. .uk. now though, teatttes— or gb news. .uk. now though, headlines-ray— or gb news. .uk. now though, headlines-ray .- or gb news. .uk. now though, headlines ray . coming up to headlines with ray. coming up to ttoz. — headlines with ray. coming up to ttoz. ttt— headlines with ray. coming up to ttoz. r-tt raw— headlines with ray. coming up to 5:02. i'm ray anderson- headlines with ray. coming up to 5:02. ' 3" " headlines with ray. coming up to 5:02. : " 5:02. i'm ray anderson in the newsroom richard sharp has resigned as chairman of the bbc after a report found that he breached the rules for public appointments. the review says he failed to properly disclose his involvement in facilitate outing an £800,000 loan guarantee for bods an £800,000 loan guarantee for boris johnson. mr sharp says the breach was inadvertent, but he's quitting to prioritise the interests of the broadcaster. liberal democrats leader sir ed davey says the appointments process needs to be changed. i prefer an independent process and i absolutely believe there should be a hearing to check the appointment set by the cross—party select committee in the house of commons for culture, media and sport. that's

the only way to forward. so people can have confidence just allowing it to be the prime minister say so just won't work anymore. well, the prime minister seems to disagree. he says the right process was followed and this is about doing things properly and professionally. and when concerns are _ professionally. and when concerns are raised,- and when concerns are raised, it's right ttat— concerns are raised, it's right ttat ttere— concerns are raised, it's right that there is— concerns are raised, it's right that there is a— concerns are raised, it's right that there is a proper process, an independent— that there is a proper process, an independent process that we tot-t— an independent process that we tot-t pretutge. — an independent process that we don't prejudge. we allow it to saw— don't prejudge. we allow it to saw ot— don't prejudge. we allow it to carry on, establish the facts of wtat— carry on, establish the facts of wtat tappetet— carry on, establish the facts of wtat tappetet ,— carry on, establish the facts of what happened , reach what happened, reach a conclusion— what happened, reach a conclusion that's happened . conclusion that's happened. ttetart— conclusion that's happened. richard sharp— conclusion that's happened. richard sharp has resigned . but richard sharp has resigned. but it's richard sharp has resigned. but tt-s rtgtt— richard sharp has resigned. but tt-s rtgtt ttat— richard sharp has resigned. but it's right that we— richard sharp has resigned. but it's right that we do these ttttgs— it's right that we do these things properly and professionally. i think most peopte— professionally. i think most peopte wttt— professionally. i think most people will think that's people will think that that's the people will think that that's tte-ttttg— people will think that that's tte-ttttglto- people will think that that's the-thingldo. - people will think that that's. the .thingldo . florida the right thing to do. florida governor desantis , us, has governor ron desantis, us, has met with foreign secretary james cleverly in london. the uk visit is the last leg of the republicans international tour aimed at enhancing his foreign policy credentials . yesterday he policy credentials. yesterday he was in israel. it's policy credentials. yesterday he was in israel . it's expected was in israel. it's expected that mr desantis will run for the republican nomination in the 2024 presidential election .

2024 presidential election. police investigating the murder of a pregnant teacher in scotland have confirmed that they found the body of her missing partner. police had been looking for 36 year old david yates in connection with the death of morrell. sturrock at a home in glasgow on tuesday . she home in glasgow on tuesday. she was 29 weeks pregnant and her unborn baby did not survive. mr yates remains were found after searches of mugdock reservoir, which is located north of glasgow. his death is not being treated as suspicious . in sudan, treated as suspicious. in sudan, the ceasefire between the paramilitary rapid support forces and the army has been extended for a further three days. the foreign secretary is calling on the two sides to fully implement the truce and says evacuation flights are ongoing . so far, british forces ongoing. so far, british forces have rescued almost 900 people. the government is urging those with british passports and visas to make their way to the airfield as quickly as they can, at least 17 people have been

killed as russian airstrikes hit key cities across . key cities across. ukraine to children are among those killed and nine people have been taken to hospital . the attacks come as to hospital. the attacks come as ukraine is set to launch an offensive with new military equipment supplied by western allies. it follows a winter offensive where moscow has made little headway . well, the little headway. well, the government says the uk is being vigilant in the north sea after alleged russian spy ships were seen operating near offshore energy infrastructure. baroness goldie says the activities of russian vessels are being watched closely . earlier this watched closely. earlier this month, a joint investigation by european broadcasters claimed a russian citizen was part of an operation to map undersea infrastructure. the report found that the ship was sailing around the baltic and north seas for a month , passing windfarms off the

month, passing windfarms off the coast of several scandinavian countries . as the national countries. as the national education union plans to reballot its members in state funded schools in england over further strike action . the vote further strike action. the vote in a dispute over pay will open on the 15th of may and close at the end of july. it follows an announcement this morning that head teachers in england will hold another vote on whether they will strike while members of the gmb union have accepted the government's pay offer for health workers , 56% voted to health workers, 56% voted to accept a 5% rise and one off a 5% pay rise and a one off cash sum. gm officials say they will now vote to accept the offer at a meeting next week of the nhs staff council. the union also says its workers will now be thousands of pounds better off . thousands of pounds better off. well, meanwhile, members of the unite union in england have rejected the government's latest pay rejected the government's latest pay offer to nhs staff in their long running pay dispute. just

over half of its members who took part, mostly ambulance and junior health workers voted against a 5% pay increase. unite says planned strikes by more than 4000 nhs workers across england will now go ahead next week . hollywood actress eva week. hollywood actress eva green has won a million dollar case over the collapse of a sci fi film and a warning for those watching on television . the watching on television. the following footage contains flashing images. the star sued white lantern films, the company behind a patriot, after the project collapsed in 2019, she was due to play a lead role in the movie the 42 year old said she's entitled to an £810,000 fee after the company said that ms green undermined the independence film's production and renounced the contract . and and renounced the contract. and the prince and princess of wales have paid an emotional visit to a welsh village to remember the victims of the 1966 aberfan

disaster . 116 children victims of the 1966 aberfan disaster. 116 children and 28 adults were killed after a colliery spoil tip collapsed onto the school and neighbouring homes . william and kate visited homes. william and kate visited the aberfan memorial garden to pay the aberfan memorial garden to pay their respects . it's the pay their respects. it's the first time that the royal couple has been to the village this is gb news. we'll bring you more as it happens. now let's get back to . to. patrick yes. to. patrick- . yes. welcome to. patrick— . yes. welcome back, to. tatrtet— - yes. welcome back, everybody. yes. welcome back, everybody. now, - yes. welcome back, everybody. wow, totaw— - yes. welcome back, everybody. wow, totaw-a— . yes. welcome back, everybody. now, today,-a lot- . yes. welcome back, everybody. now, today,-a lot of- now, today, there are a lot of terrttte— now, today, there are a lot of terrible crime— now, today, there are a lot of terrible crime stories knocking atout— terrible crime stories knocking atout-ote— terrible crime stories knocking about one shocking about each one more shocking ttat— about each one more shocking ttat tte— about each one more shocking than the last.— about each one more shocking than the last. it's— about each one more shocking than the last. it's emerged, aseortttg— than the last. it's emerged, aeoortttg to— than the last. it's emerged, according to a— than the last. it's emerged, according to a new report atwwaw— according to a new report atwwaw-tte- according to a new report anyway, the met police are anyway, that the met police are ottet—tuet- anyway, that the met police are often - luck to - anyway, that the met police are often luck to catch often relying on luck to catch murderers, serial— often relying on luck to catch murderers, serial killers. so we get tuetw. — murderers, serial killers. so we get tuetw. wow— murderers, serial killers. so we get lucky. now if— murderers, serial killers. so we get lucky. now if we catch a serrat— get lucky. now if we catch a serial killer— get lucky. now if we catch a serial killer that,— get lucky. now if we catch a serial killer that, for obvious reasons, should— serial killer that, for obvious reasons, should be a massive concern to everybody. out there. ttere-s— concern to everybody. out there. ttere-s reports— concern to everybody. out there. there's reports of— concern to everybody. out there. there's reports of a— concern to everybody. out there. there's reports of a murder in

soottatt— there's reports of a murder in scotland-another- there's reports of a murder in scotland another body been scotland and another body been toutt— scotland and another body been toutt-to— scotland and another body been toutt-toltt- found, believed to be in retattot— found, believed to be in relation to— found, believed to be in relation to-as- found, believed to be in relation to as well. that relation to that as well. that tews-rtgtt— relation to that as well. that news-right here- relation to that as well. that news right here this news broke right here on this stow.— news broke right here on this show. teenagers— news broke right here on this show. teenagers been show. teenagers have been arrestet— show. teenagers have been arrested suspicion of murder arrested on suspicion of murder arter— arrested on suspicion of murder atterltog— arrested on suspicion of murder afterldog walker— arrested on suspicion of murder after dog walker was killed in after a dog walker was killed in after a dog walker was killed in a part— after a dog walker was killed in a part tt— after a dog walker was killed in a park in nuneaton as well. and ttet— a park in nuneaton as well. and ttet ttt— a park in nuneaton as well. and then i'm looking— a park in nuneaton as well. and then i'm looking at— a park in nuneaton as well. and then i'm looking at some other states— then i'm looking at some other states-tt— then i'm looking at some other stories-in for- stories as well in for manchester- stories as well in for manchester example. a, i'm just going— manchester example. a, i'm just going-vou— manchester example. a, i'm just gottg-you tte- manchester example. a, i'm just going you the headline going to read you the headline -ot— going to read you the headline now. _of crowbar- going to read you the headline now. of crowbar attacks now. spate of crowbar attacks spartet— now. spate of crowbar attacks sparked—tt- sparked safety fears in manchester's gay community. tpparetttw— manchester's gay community. apparently there's been a load of apparently there's been a load or peopte— apparently there's been a load of people walking around in fear of people walking around in fear ot-attaets. — of people walking around in fear of-attacks. they've - of people walking around in fear of attacks. they've been of crowbar attacks. they've been ruttttg— of crowbar attacks. they've been ruttttg tor— of crowbar attacks. they've been ruttttg tor stt— of crowbar attacks. they've been running for six weeks over that att— running for six weeks over that att tote— running for six weeks over that att tte— running for six weeks over that and none the wiser as to who is eottuetttg— and none the wiser as to who is conducting that. _ and none the wiser as to who is conducting that. and then quite tterattw— conducting that. and then quite literally closer— conducting that. and then quite literally closer to— conducting that. and then quite literally closer to home in this as wet.— literally closer to home in this case as well. do— literally closer to home in this case as well. do you know that were— case as well. do you know that ttere wee— case as well. do you know that there were around— case as well. do you know that there were around 800 burglaries a taw— there were around 800 burglaries a day ttat— there were around 800 burglaries a day ttat go— there were around 800 burglaries a day that go unsolved, 77% of ttet,— a day that go unsolved, 77% of ttert, ttose— a day that go unsolved, 77% of them, those cases— a day that go unsolved, 77% of them, those cases are closed wtttout— them, those cases are closed without anyone _ them, those cases are closed without anyone even being held as a suspect— without anyone even being held as a suspect or— without anyone even being held as a suspect or without any arest — as a suspect or without any arest tettg— as a suspect or without any arrest. being made. nothing to do arrest. being made. nothing to to wttt— arrest. being made. nothing to to wttt ttat.— arrest. being made. nothing to do with that. what so ever. then we tave— do with that. what so ever. then we tawe a— do with that. what so ever. then we have a look— do with that. what so ever. then we have a look at— do with that. what so ever. then we have a look at the amount of seuat— we have a look at the amount of sexual assaults.— we have a look at the amount of sexual assaults. and if you just go ottte— sexual assaults. and if you just go otttte. okay— sexual assaults. and if you just go online. okay and you look at ttttgs— go online. okay and you look at ttttgs tte— go online. okay and you look at things like tick— go online. okay and you look at things like tick tock, etcetera, wttet— things like tick tock, etcetera, wttetlwoutt— things like tick tock, etcetera, which would urge you not to do

which i would urge you not to do at-test— which i would urge you not to do at-test ot— which i would urge you not to do at-best of times,— which i would urge you not to do at best of times, but at the best of times, but sometimes— at the best of times, but sometimes it— at the best of times, but sometimes it is interesting and you— sometimes it is interesting and you rust— sometimes it is interesting and you rust-tte— sometimes it is interesting and you just the amount of you just see the amount of peopte,— you just see the amount of people, children walking around wttt—att- people, children walking aroundi wttt—att tettg with knives, machetes and being to—ttert.- with knives, machetes and being to—ttert. r- with knives, machetes and being to—ttert. rtust- to prepared use them. i just eat-t— to prepared use them. i just can't-wonder- to prepared use them. i just can't wonder whether can't help but wonder whether or not can't help but wonder whether or tot—tawtess- not we're living in lawless trttatt— not we're living in lawless britain—are- britain now. there are undeniably- britain now. there are undeniably some faults with the potte— undeniably some faults with the pottee tore — undeniably some faults with the police force, and— undeniably some faults with the police force, and we've seen ttat— police force, and we've seen that evidence _ police force, and we've seen that evidence left, right and eette — that evidence left, right and eettrelts— that evidence left, right and centre.-is.not- that evidence left, right and centre. is not also centre. but is it not also a tautt— centre. but is it not also a tautt wttt— centre. but is it not also a fault with the _ centre. but is it not also a fault with the way that we presett— fault with the way that we present - police - fault with the way that we present police as present our police force as wette— present our police force as wette we— present our police force as well? we keep— present our police force as well? we keep talking them down far well? we keep talking them down tar too— well? we keep talking them down tar too must— well? we keep talking them down far too much and— well? we keep talking them down far too much and accused of institutional— far too much and accused of institutional listening stitutional_ stitutional that. so there is a bit-recruitment- stitutional that. so there is a bit recruitment crisis. bit of a recruitment crisis. ttere— bit of a recruitment crisis. ttere-ot— bit of a recruitment crisis. there .of course - bit of a recruitment crisis. there of course massive bit of a recruitment crisis. there cuts)f course massive bit of a recruitment crisis. there cuts made 'se massive bit of a recruitment crisis. there cuts made by massive bit of a recruitment crisis. there cuts made by this sive police cuts made by this government— police cuts made by this government or previous version of government or previous version ot tt— government or previous version or t atwwaw. — government or previous version or t atwwaw. they— government or previous version of it anyway. they are now reptaettg— of it anyway. they are now replacing them _ of it anyway. they are now replacing them with younger , replacing them with younger, inexperienced _ replacing them with younger, inexperienced officers. so there is inexperienced officers. so there ts to— inexperienced officers. so there is no substitute— inexperienced officers. so there is no substitute for practical twea— is no substitute for practical lived experience. so even if the tutes— lived experience. so even if the tutes tt— lived experience. so even if the numbers in the— lived experience. so even if the numbers in the police force are just— numbers in the police force are tust atout— numbers in the police force are tust atout otaw— numbers in the police force are just about okay, which many woutt— just about okay, which many woutt saw— just about okay, which many would say they're not, the actuat— would say they're not, the actual quality— would say they're not, the actual quality of police officer ttese— actual quality of police officer ttese tats— actual quality of police officer ttese tats r— actual quality of police officer these days, i suspect is not all ttat— these days, i suspect is not all ttat good.— these days, i suspect is not all that good. we've— these days, i suspect is not all that good. we've had reports sortttg— that good. we've had reports oortttg out— that good. we've had reports coming out about what new reerutts— coming out about what new reerutts turt— coming out about what new recruits mum trying to call the potte— recruits mum trying to call the police officer's— recruits mum trying to call the police officer's boss to say ttat— police officer's boss to say ttat te— police officer's boss to say that he was— police officer's boss to say that he was being mean to him. ttotter— that he was being mean to him. another person— that he was being mean to him. another person as— that he was being mean to him. another person as well had to go

wttt— another person as well had to go wttt a— another person as well had to go wttt a tterapw— another person as well had to go with a therapy support slug, wttet— with a therapy support slug, which actually,— with a therapy support slug, which actually, in case you're wotterttg— which actually, in case you're wotterttg ,— which actually, in case you're wondering , died— which actually, in case you're wondering , died to to get wondering, died to try to get ttet — wondering, died to try to get them through— wondering, died to try to get them through a— wondering, died to try to get them through a police course. wtat— them through a police course. wtat wtt— them through a police course. wtat tttt ot— them through a police course. what kind of individual are we reeruttttge— what kind of individual are we reeruttttge r— what kind of individual are we recruiting? i just— what kind of individual are we recruiting? i just wonder, ttougt— recruiting? i just wonder, ttougt, tt— recruiting? i just wonder, though, if we're becoming ungovernable_ though, if we're becoming ungovernable a very, very ungovernable from a very, very young— ungovernable from a very, very woutg age.— ungovernable from a very, very woutg age. rs— ungovernable from a very, very young age. is there the role of paretts— young age. is there the role of paretts tere— young age. is there the role of parents here that— young age. is there the role of parents here that is completely tatttg— parents here that is completely falling through?— parents here that is completely falling through? i woke up this rtortttg— falling through? i woke up this rtortttg, as— falling through? i woke up this rtortttg, as r— falling through? i woke up this morning, as i was— falling through? i woke up this morning, as i was saying to you, att— morning, as i was saying to you, att r— morning, as i was saying to you, att r soutt— morning, as i was saying to you, and i could not— morning, as i was saying to you, and i could not move for atsotutetw— and i could not move for absolutely catastrophically awtut— absolutely catastrophically awful-stories- absolutely catastrophically awful-stories .- absolutely catastrophically awful stories . and i just awful crime stories. and i just wowteret— awful crime stories. and i just wondered, where— awful crime stories. and i just wondered, where are we really teatttg— wondered, where are we really teatttg tt— wondered, where are we really heading in this— wondered, where are we really heading in this country? do you teet— heading in this country? do you teet tore— heading in this country? do you teet or— heading in this country? do you feel more or less— heading in this country? do you feel more or less safe than you atte— feel more or less safe than you was 0r— feel more or less safe than you was or tet-s— feel more or less safe than you did? or let's say— feel more or less safe than you did? or let's say i— feel more or less safe than you did? or let's say i don't know, tawte— did? or let's say i don't know, rtawte tet— did? or let's say i don't know, maybe ten years— did? or let's say i don't know, maybe ten years ago? i want to rust— maybe ten years ago? i want to tust tatt— maybe ten years ago? i want to tust tatt a— maybe ten years ago? i want to just talk a little— maybe ten years ago? i want to just talk a little bit more atout— just talk a little bit more atout tte— just talk a little bit more about the shocking report into the about the shocking report into tte ttet. — about the shocking report into tte ttet. ttt— about the shocking report into the met. and they've been assuset— the met. and they've been accused they— the met. and they've been accused they have been accused of accused they have been accused ot a— accused they have been accused of a calamitous— accused they have been accused of a calamitous litany of tattures— of a calamitous litany of failures-a- of a calamitous litany of failures a serial killer failures after a serial killer rturteret— failures after a serial killer murdered four— failures after a serial killer murdered four men. now, stephen root— murdered four men. now, stephen roor ttet— murdered four men. now, stephen roor ttet trs— murdered four men. now, stephen poor met his victims on dating sttes— poor met his victims on dating sites, including— poor met his victims on dating sites, including the gay dating app sites, including the gay dating app otter— sites, including the gay dating app that .— sites, including the gay dating app grindr. now,— sites, including the gay dating app grindr. now, the report says ttat— app grindr. now, the report says ttat tesptte— app grindr. now, the report says that despite the— app grindr. now, the report says that despite the obvious links tetweet— that despite the obvious links tetweet tte— that despite the obvious links between the cases , it wasn't between the cases, it wasn't utttt— between the cases, it wasn't utttt tte— between the cases, it wasn't until the fourth— between the cases, it wasn't until the fourth murder victim's tott— until the fourth murder victim's totw was— until the fourth murder victim's body was found— until the fourth murder victim's body was found that police

reatset— body was found that police realised that— body was found that police realised that they could have teet— realised that they could have teet ttttet— realised that they could have been killed by— realised that they could have been killed by the same person. it's been killed by the same person. rt-s wortt— been killed by the same person. it's worth noting— been killed by the same person. it's worth noting that in this te— it's worth noting that in this te gutte— it's worth noting that in this case he quite literally sometimes— case he quite literally sometimes left his victims on his sometimes left his victims on tts ow— sometimes left his victims on his own doorstep.— sometimes left his victims on his own doorstep. so they didn't rearw— his own doorstep. so they didn't reattw tave— his own doorstep. so they didn't reattw tawe to— his own doorstep. so they didn't really have to .that- his own doorstep. so they didn't really have to that far. really have to look that far. ttt— really have to look that far. ttt tte — really have to look that far. and the police— really have to look that far. and the police watchdog warns ttat— and the police watchdog warns ttat ttstow— and the police watchdog warns that history could— and the police watchdog warns that history could repeat ttsett— that history could repeat itself. and— that history could repeat. itself. and _officers itself. and because officers aett— itself. and because officers aren't investigating aren't properly investigating utexpestet— aren't properly investigating unexpected or— aren't properly investigating unexpected or unexplained gained teatts— unexpected or unexplained gained teatts att— unexpected or unexplained gained teatts att r— unexpected or unexplained gained deaths and ijust— unexpected or unexplained gained deaths and i just wonder why ettet— deaths and i just wonder why we've ended up— deaths and i just wonder why we've ended up here right now. is we've ended up here right now. rs tt— we've ended up here right now. rs t a— we've ended up here right now. is it a problem— we've ended up here right now. is it a problem with recruitment? is it a problem wttt— recruitment? is it a problem wttt tte— recruitment? is it a problem with the quality— recruitment? is it a problem with the quality of police otttsers— with the quality of police officers that _ with the quality of police officers that we are having now? or astuattw— officers that we are having now? or astuattw ts— officers that we are having now? or actually is the— officers that we are having now? or actually is the problem sostetate— or actually is the problem societal? we're _ or actually is the problem societal? we're all too quick, aett— societal? we're all too quick, aertt to— societal? we're all too quick, aren't we, to say— societal? we're all too quick, aren't we, to say that the potse— aren't we, to say that the pottse — aren't we, to say that the police are institutions racist, ttat— police are institutions racist, ttat ttet-re— police are institutions racist, that they're bullies and police are institutions racist, that it'sy're bullies and police are institutions racist, that it's full bullies and police are institutions racist, that it's full of bullies and police are institutions racist, that it's full of misogynyid police are institutions racist, that it's full of misogyny and tortoptottae— that it's full of misogyny and homophobia? would want to homophobia? so who would want to go—tttustrw- go into the police industry anyway?— go into the police industry anyway?_al go into the police industry- anyway?_a problem anyway? is it actually a problem wttt— anyway? is it actually a problem wttt-tre— anyway? is it actually a problem wttt-are we— anyway? is it actually a problem with _are we raising - anyway? is it actually a problem with are we raising too with parents? are we raising too tatt— with parents? are we raising too ttatw retat— with parents? are we raising too many feral kids?— with parents? are we raising too many feral kids? is this essentially— many feral kids? is this essentially us reaping what we sow— essentially us reaping what we ot— essentially us reaping what we sow? gb views— essentially us reaping what we sow? gb views or— essentially us reaping what we sow? gb views or gb news? .uk. twe— sow? gb views or gb news? .uk. we worked— sow? gb views or gb news? .uk. r-we wortet at— sow? gb views or gb news? .uk. i've worked at a— sow? gb views or gb news? .uk. i've worked at a school for over 24 i've worked at a school for over so weas— i've worked at a school for over so weas saws— i've worked at a school for over 24 years, says cheryl. i've seen tat— 24 years, says cheryl. i've seen bad behaviour— 24 years, says cheryl. i've seen bad behaviour increase so much ttat— bad behaviour increase so much ttat tt-s— bad behaviour increase so much ttat tt-s tt— bad behaviour increase so much ttat tt-s tt tw— bad behaviour increase so much that it's, in my opinion, a serious issue.— that it's, in my opinion, a serious issue. now. children aett— serious issue. now. children aren't afraid— serious issue. now. children aren't afraid of— serious issue. now. children aren't afraid of the police,

teasters— aren't afraid of the police, teachers or— aren't afraid of the police, teachers or their parents and ttat— teachers or their parents and ttat ts— teachers or their parents and ttat ts wtw— teachers or their parents and ttat ts wtw r— teachers or their parents and that is why i am— teachers or their parents and that is why i am saying, cheryl, i that is why i am saying, cheryl, rwotet— that is why i am saying, cheryl, i wonder whether— that is why i am saying, cheryl, i wonder whether or not we have tesoe— i wonder whether or not we have become ungovernable or people tot-t— become ungovernable or people tot-t tte— become ungovernable or people don't like authority figures . don't like authority figures. ttew-re— don't like authority figures. ttew-re tot— don't like authority figures. they're not scared of them for a gap,— they're not scared of them for a start, tut— they're not scared of them for a start, tut ttew— they're not scared of them for a start, but they also— they're not scared of them for a start, but they also don't like auttorttw— start, but they also don't like auttorttw-at- start, but they also don't like authority-at all. - start, but they also don't like authority at all. we're authority figures at all. we're seettg— authority figures at all. we're seettg ttts— authority figures at all. we're seeing this potentially a bit in the seeing this potentially a bit in tte-sewtse— seeing this potentially a bit in the-service now,- seeing this potentially a bit in the service now, aren't seeing this potentially a bit in the whereervice now, aren't seeing this potentially a bit in the where anyone )w, aren't seeing this potentially a bit in the where anyone who ren't seeing this potentially a bit in the where anyone who asks you to we, where anyone who asks you to do we, where anyone who asks you to to wow— we, where anyone who asks you to to wour jobs — we, where anyone who asks you to to wour tot, ttew— we, where anyone who asks you to do your job, they are— we, where anyone who asks you to do your job, they are a bully att— do your job, they are a bully att ttew— do your job, they are a bully att ttew-te- do your job, they are a bully and they be ousted. but and they have to be ousted. but ttat— and they have to be ousted. but ttat tast— and they have to be ousted. but that lack .fear_ and they have to be ousted. but that lack .fear-for- that lack of fear factor for pottse— that lack of fear factor for police officers,— that lack of fear factor for police officers, i think is atsotutetw— police officers, i think is. absolutely—and absolutely staggering. and peopte— absolutely staggering. andi peopte—respest absolutely staggering. and- people_respect for people just have no respect for ttet.— people just have no respect for ttet-ts— people just have no respect for them. is completely them. and that is completely ettet— them. and that is completely. ettet—tast them. and that is completely- ettet—tast ended compounded by the fact now that ended compounded by the fact now ttat-tettg— ended compounded by the fact now ttat-tettg tott— ended compounded by the fact now that being told constantly that we're being told constantly ttat— that we're being told constantly ttat our— that we're being told constantly that our police— that we're being told constantly that our police officers are bad peopte,— that our police officers are bad peopte-saws— that our police officers are bad peopte-saws r- that our police officers are bad people, says, i really people, cheryl says, i really tespatr. — people, cheryl says, i really despair.-this- people, cheryl says, i really despair.-this is- people, cheryl says, i really despair. this is an despair. now, this is an interesting— despair. now, this is an interesting one, though, from tettt— interesting one, though, from ten. wto — interesting one, though, from keith, who says— interesting one, though, from keith, who says the force keith, who says the police force stoutt — keith, who says the police force should-disbanded- keith, who says the police force should disbanded . they no should be disbanded. they are no totger— should be disbanded. they are no totger-purpose.— should be disbanded. they are no longer-purpose. put- should be disbanded. they are no longer purpose. put the longer fit for purpose. put the artw— longer fit for purpose. put the arrtw-streets. - longer fit for purpose. put the army - streets. but - longer fit for purpose. put the army streets. but then army on the streets. but then tettt— army on the streets. but then kept. wttt— army on the streets. but then keith, with the _ army on the streets. but then keith, with the army, not be tutg— keith, with the army, not be tutg-reattw— keith, with the army, not be hung. really on - keith, with the army, not be hung really on the old law hung up, really on the old law att— hung up, really on the old law and-p.pgggg,_ hung up, really on the old law and brigade, we've spoken and order brigade, we've spoken atout— and order brigade, we've spoken atout a— and order brigade, we've spoken atout aiatout— and order brigade, we've spoken about a.about this- and order brigade, we've spoken about a about this grinder about a lot about this grinder truer— about a lot about this grinder tttterltar— about a lot about this grinder killer-far in— about a lot about this grinder killer-far in the— about a lot about this grinder killer far in the show, but killer so far in the show, but i watt— killer so far in the show, but i watt to— killer so far in the show, but i want to discuss— killer so far in the show, but i want to discuss the news now ttat— want to discuss the news now ttat tore— want to discuss the news now that more 200,000 that more than 200,000 turgtartes— that more than 200,000 burglaries unsolved last burglaries went unsolved last wear.— burglaries went unsolved last wear-rtgtt.— burglaries went unsolved last year. right. that's year. that's right. that's atrtost— year. that's right. that's almost 600— year. that's right. that's almost 600 a- year. that's right. that's almost 600 a day, 77% of turgtarw— almost 600 a day, 77% of burglary cases— almost 600 a day, 77% of burglary cases were closed by

ttgtatt— burglary cases were closed by ttgtatt att— burglary cases were closed by england and wales police with no suspest— england and wales police with no suspest tettg— england and wales police with no suspect being identified. and ttts— suspect being identified. and ttts ts— suspect being identified. and ttts ts a— suspect being identified. and this is a real— suspect being identified. and this is a real shocker in tawtess— this is a real shocker in lawless britain. joining me now is lawless britain. joining me now ts tart— lawless britain. joining me now is karl fordham,_ lawless britain. joining me now is karl fordham, who is a wttt,— is karl fordham, who is a victim, sadly,— is karl fordham, who is a victim, sadly, of burglary. and, tart— victim, sadly, of burglary. and, tart w-wee— victim, sadly, of burglary. and, tart got— victim, sadly, of burglary. and, karl, we've got rather a lot to tatt— karl, we've got rather a lot to tatt atout— karl, we've got rather a lot to talk about here,— karl, we've got rather a lot to talk about here, you and i. but r— talk about here, you and i. but trust— talk about here, you and i. but can i just first— talk about here, you and i. but can i just first ask— talk about here, you and i. but can i just first ask you a tttte— can i just first ask you a ttttte ttt— can i just first ask you a little bit about- can i just first ask you a little bit about your or the trtpast— little bit about your or the trtpast ttat— little bit about your or the impact that the burglary had on you impact that the burglary had on wou att— impact that the burglary had on wou att wour— impact that the burglary had on you and your experience faces? teause— you and your experience faces? teause tt— you and your experience faces? because it would _ you and your experience faces? because it would appear to me, cote— because it would appear to me, cole r— because it would appear to me, cote , ttat— because it would appear to me, cote , ttat tt— because it would appear to me, cole , that if you— because it would appear to me, cole , that if you were inclined cole, that if you were inclined to-to— cole, that if you were inclined to-to treat— cole, that if you were inclined to-to break into- cole, that if you were inclined to to break into property to want to break into a property tow-woutt— to want to break into a property now,-would know- to want to break into a property now, would know that there's now, you would know that there's asatse-t— now, you would know that there's asatse-t wou-re- now, you would know that there's a chance you're going a very good chance you're going to get— a very good chance you're going to get awaw— a very good chance you're going to get awaw wttt— a very good chance you're going to get away with it. teartllg to get away with it. exactly. ttat— to get away with it. exactly. ttat tt— to get away with it. exactly. that it changes your whole life, to be honest . patrick, i know to be honest. patrick, i know you and i've spoken about this before and until you've been through it, no one can ever actually understand that. um, you know, you're frightened to leave the house, and you're frightened . that's exactly what frightened. that's exactly what you are. but you have to go on with life. otherwise they've. ttew-we— with life. otherwise they've. they've beaten _ with life. otherwise they've. they've beaten you,- 0 ”ti; otherwise they've. they've beaten you, haven't ttewe— they've beaten you, haven't ttewe tt— they've beaten you, haven't ttewe at tte— they've beaten you, haven't they? at the end _ they've beaten you, haven't they? at the end the day, i they? at the end of the day, i ttew— they? at the end of the day, i mean, they took— they? at the end of the day, i mean, they took everything from uslttat— mean, they took everything from uslttat-rt— mean, they took everything from uslthat-it was- mean, they took everything from uslthat-it was six- us at that point. it was six wears— us at that point. it was six years ago. but it's with you all the . and i mean, even if

the time. and i mean, even if woue— the time. and i mean, even if woure sort— the time. and i mean, even if woure sort ot— the time. and i mean, even if you're sort of sitting- e and i mean, even if you're sort of sitting watching the you're sort of sitting watching tte tw— you're sort of sitting watching tte w or— you're sort of sitting watching the tv or something, you're sort of sitting watching the tv or something , the back you're sort of sitting watching the twill something , the back you're sort of sitting watching the twill alwaysling , the back you're sort of sitting watching the twill always be| , the back you're sort of sitting watching the twill always be locked. :k you're sort of sitting watching the twill always be locked. door will always be locked. the warm— door will always be locked. the atartt wttt— door will always be locked. the alarm will always— door will always be locked. the alarm will always be— door will always be locked. the alarm will always be on. that's the way that we have to live. but i think, you know, listening to-att— but i think, you know, listening to-and hearing- to the news and hearing the program— to the news and hearing the progrart totaw— to the news and hearing the program today and 13 years, 13 wears— program today and 13 years, 13 wears ago,— program today and 13 years, 13 wears ago, tow— program today and 13 years, 13 years ago, how did we all feel ? years ago, how did we all feel? were— years ago, how did we all feel? were we— years ago, how did we all feel? were we att— years ago, how did we all feel? were we all this— years ago, how did we all feel? were we all this terrified- years ago, how did we all feel? were we all this terrified to- were we all this terrified to walk along the streets? well, were you you know, g 7 well, were you you know, were you? thattt— were you you know, were you? was tte— were you you know, were you? that's the point,— were you you know, were you? that's the point, right?- were you you know, were you? that's the point, right? because i desensitised a lot working i am desensitised a lot working in this industry to a lot of very serious stories. but today it was staggering. instead it was staggering. and instead of to rattle through of just trying to rattle through them all one by one, i could have done an entire show today. karl of shockingly karl on the amount of shockingly bad stories that we've got bad news stories that we've got relying on luck to catch serial killers, we've some killers, then we've got some essentially kids arrested on suspicion murder nuneaton. suspicion of murder in nuneaton. then an actual murder then we've got an actual murder that's place in scotland that's taken place in scotland as burglary story as well. this burglary story that's doing the rounds. i mean, were this afraid? 13 years were you this afraid? 13 years ago ? definitely not. and i don't ago? definitely not. and i don't think ago? definitely not. and i don't ttttt atwtotw— ago? definitely not. and i don't think anybody is. _ ago? definitely not. and i don't think anybody is. i— 37 jrzzi�* " dint and i don't think anybody is. i mean, where we twe— think anybody is. i mean, where we twe ,— think anybody is. i mean, where we twe just— think anybody is. i mean, where we twe rj'ust a— think anybody is. i mean, where we live , just a few— think anybody is. i mean, where we live , just a few weeks ago,

we live, just a few weeks ago, ttere— we live, just a few weeks ago, ttere was— we live, just a few weeks ago, ttere a— we live, just a few weeks ago, there was a case— we live, just a few weeks ago, there was a case of two children tawtg— there was a case of two children tawtg at— there was a case of two children having an argument like we protattw— having an argument like we protattw att— having an argument like we probably all did as kids, you ttow— probably all did as kids, you know, messing— probably all did as kids, you know, messing around . and one of know, messing around. and one of ttet — know, messing around. and one of ttet ettet— know, messing around. and one of ttet ettet up— know, messing around. and one of them ended up getting stabbed. and them ended up getting stabbed. ttt ttat— them ended up getting stabbed. ttt ttat ts— them ended up getting stabbed. and that is just— them ended up getting stabbed. and that is just just a local sttuattot— and that is just just a local sttuattot ,— and that is just just a local situation , asian. and yes , it's situation, asian. and yes, it's awtut— situation, asian. and yes, it's awtut. tut— situation, asian. and yes, it's awful. but the _ situation, asian. and yes, it's awful. but the thing is , the awful. but the thing is, the poputattot— awful. but the thing is, the population has— awful. but the thing is, the population has gone through the roof population has gone through the root .— population has gone through the root . rt— population has gone through the root . rt ttat— population has gone through the roof . if that means population has gone through the roof. if that means i mean , the roof. if that means i mean, the tutes— roof. if that means i mean, the tutes tett— roof. if that means i mean, the numbers tell us— roof. if that means i mean, the numbers tell us we've got more srtrtttats— numbers tell us we've got more srtrtttats ot— numbers tell us we've got more criminals on the— numbers tell us we've got more criminals on the street . we know criminals on the street. we know ttat— criminals on the street. we know ttat we— criminals on the street. we know ttat we tave— criminals on the street. we know that we have these _ criminals on the street. we know that we have these more srtrtttats— that we have these more srtrtttats .— that we have these more criminals . what are we actually criminals. what are we actually tottg— criminals. what are we actually tottg atout— criminals. what are we actually tottg atout tt— criminals. what are we actually doing about it ?_ criminals. what are we actually doing about it ? i— criminals. what are we actually doing about it ? i mean, doing about it? i mean, turgtartes— doing about it? i mean, burglaries are one thing, but wtet— burglaries are one thing, but wtet woue— burglaries are one thing, but when you're talking i mean, ewerw— when you're talking i mean, ewerw taw— when you're talking i mean, ewerw taw a— when you're talking i mean, every day a murder, a shooting, a stattttg— every day a murder, a shooting, a stattttg ,— every day a murder, a shooting, a stattttg , r— every day a murder, a shooting, a stabbing, i mean, what has tappetet— a stabbing, i mean, what has tappetetlttts— a stabbing, i mean, what has happened this country ? it's happened to this country? it's sortptetetw— happened to this country? it's completely-know- happened to this country? it's completely know about completely i don't know about tawtess— completely i don't know about tawtess. rt-s— completely i don't know about lawless. it's completely out of sottrot— lawless. it's completely out of sottrot . — lawless. it's completely out of control . well,— lawless. it's completely out of control . well, what- lawless. it's completely out of control . eunice r:r:::r lawless. it's completely out of control . r:r:::r lawless. it's completely out of control . control. well, what do you blame what you blame the boats what do you blame the boats coming over either for what? what do you what do you blame for what do you what do you blame tor ttts— what do you what do you blame tor ttts rtsttg— what do you what do you blame for this rising crime, coral? tesause— for this rising crime, coral? tesause agatt— for this rising crime, coral? tesause agatt .— for this rising crime, coral? because again , this- for this rising crime, coral? because again , this does appear because again, this does appear to can't help but suggest to me i can't help but suggest that, know, looking at that, you know, we're looking at rapid growth on an rapid population growth on an unbelievable with unbelievable scale. and with all of our services, we are of our public services, we are absolutely no way matching the amount people who work in

amount of people who work in these services the these public services with the amount that population is amount that our population is growing. definition and growing. so by definition and then sit around and we then we sit around and we scratch our heads, don't we? and we why everyone's we wonder why everyone's overstretched talk about, overstretched and we talk about, oh gosh, they're critically underfunded. yeah, they underfunded. well, yeah, they are millions are also dealing with millions more were 13 more people than they were 13 years some people, years ago. but some people, coral, it's a fault of coral, would say it's a fault of the police force. they're not proactive enough. and there aren't them. some aren't enough of them. some other people coral, would other people, coral, would say, well, minute. what are well, hang on a minute. what are the up those two the parents up to? those two kids who were saying there kids who you were saying there that involved kind that were involved in some kind of on your street? i of knife fight on your street? i mean, where their parents? mean, where are their parents? i totally agree. and as you say, it's totally agree. and as you say, tt-s a— totally agree. and as you say, it's a massive— totally agree. and as you say, it's a massive topic.- egos; and as you say, it's a massive topic. and i ttttt— it's a massive topic. and i ttttt tte— it's a massive topic. and i think like everything, it starts at tte— think like everything, it starts at tte top— think like everything, it starts at tte top .— think like everything, it starts at tte top . so— think like everything, it starts at the top . so you have to say, at the top. so you have to say, otaw— at the top. so you have to say, otaw ,— at the top. so you have to say, otaw , r— at the top. so you have to say, okay , i wouldn't— at the top. so you have to say, okay , i wouldn't disband the okay, i wouldn't disband the pottse— okay, i wouldn't disband the pottse torse — okay, i wouldn't disband the police force because, you know, pg...— police force because, you know, tet, rs— police force because, you know, tet, g, oo— police force because, you know, ten, 13, 20 years— police force because, you know, ten, 13, 20 years ago, they're protattw— ten, 13, 20 years ago, they're protattw tottg— ten, 13, 20 years ago, they're probably doing a— ten, 13, 20 years ago, they're probably doing a good job. but tat— probably doing a good job. but we've had family— probably doing a good job. but we've had family in the force att— we've had family in the force att ttere-s— we've had family in the force and there's an— we've had family in the force and there's an awful lot of paperwork— and there's an awful lot of paperwork att— and there's an awful lot of paperwork and there's an awful lot paperwork and there's an awful tot ot— paperwork and there's an awful tot ot sart— paperwork and there's an awful lot of call outs— paperwork and there's an awful lot of call outs to— paperwork and there's an awful lot of call outs to people that tawte— lot of call outs to people that rtawte sat-t— lot of call outs to people that maybe can't even— lot of call outs to people that maybe can't even speak english, ttat— maybe can't even speak english, ttat tave— maybe can't even speak english, ttat tawe a— maybe can't even speak english, that have a domestic argument . that have a domestic argument. ttt— that have a domestic argument. ttt wtttst— that have a domestic argument. and whilst they're—

that have a domestic argument. and whilst they're dealing with ttat— and whilst they're dealing with ttat att— and whilst they're dealing with that and obviously there's a lot of that and obviously there's a lot ot turtat— that and obviously there's a lot of human rights— that and obviously there's a lot of human rights and they have to be of human rights and they have to te saretut— of human rights and they have to be careful,-can't_ of human rights and they have to be careful, can't touch be careful, you can't touch atwtotw.— be careful, you can't touch anybody. .cetera. - be careful, you can't touch anybody. cetera. et cetera. anybody. et cetera. et cetera. we— anybody. et cetera. et cetera. we-so— anybody. et cetera. et cetera. we-so sott— anybody. et cetera. et cetera. we - so soft on _ anybody. et cetera. et cetera. we .so soft on the - anybody. et cetera. et cetera. we so soft on the wrong we are so soft on the wrong peopte— we are so soft on the wrong peopte att— we are so soft on the wrong people and where are the deterrents?— people and where are the deterrents? not to not to be a srtrtttat— deterrents? not to not to be a srtrtttat tt— deterrents? not to not to be a criminal in the— deterrents? not to not to be a criminal in the first place? i mean, we look— criminal in the first place? i mean, we look after the srtrtttats. — mean, we look after the criminals. what about the wsttrts— criminals. what about the victims and,— criminals. what about the victims and, you know, and then wtet— victims and, you know, and then wtet ttew— victims and, you know, and then wtet ttew get— victims and, you know, and then wtet ttew get to— victims and, you know, and then when they get to prison, how bad is when they get to prison, how bad ts tt— when they get to prison, how bad ts tt tor— when they get to prison, how bad is it for them?— when they get to prison, how bad is it for them? should they have turtat— is it for them? should they have turtat rtgttse— is it for them? should they have human rights? should they be attowet— human rights? should they be attowet to— human rights? should they be allowed to vote— human rights? should they be allowed to vote for politicians? stoutt— allowed to vote for politicians? stoutt ttew— allowed to vote for politicians? should they be— allowed to vote for politicians? should they be allowed to smoke? stoutt— should they be allowed to smoke? stoutt ttew— should they be allowed to smoke? stoutt ttew te— should they be allowed to smoke? should they be allowed to smoke? should they be allowed so many tttterett— should they be allowed so many different things— should they be allowed so many different things we hear different things that we hear atout— different things that we hear atout att— different things that we hear about and it's— different things that we hear about and it's completely wrong . ttt— about and it's completely wrong . ttt tte— about and it's completely wrong . and the problem— about and it's completely wrong . and the problem is, patrick, tte— . and the problem is, patrick, tte ette,— . and the problem is, patrick, tte ette, as— . and the problem is, patrick, the elite, as you— . and the problem is, patrick, the elite, as you mentioned eater— the elite, as you mentioned eartter ,— the elite, as you mentioned eartter, are— the elite, as you mentioned earlier , are moving further and earlier, are moving further and turtter— earlier, are moving further and turtter awaw— earlier, are moving further and further away from _ earlier, are moving further and further away from us. they don't tave— further away from us. they don't tawe ttese— further away from us. they don't have these worries— further away from us. they don't have these worries because even wtet— have these worries because even wtet ttew-we— have these worries because even when they've done— have these worries because even when they've done a poorjob as a potttstat— when they've done a poorjob as a pottttstat ,— when they've done a poorjob as a politician , they— when they've done a poorjob as a politician , they get a politician, they get a ttettrte— a politician, they get a lifetime of— a politician, they get a lifetime of security around ttert. — lifetime of security around ttert. ttew— lifetime of security around them. they will never have to wow— them. they will never have to worrw atout— them. they will never have to worry about anything ever. not puttttg— worry about anything ever. not puttttg wour— worry about anything ever. not putting your heating on, too, gettttg— putting your heating on, too, getting burgled— putting your heating on, too, getting burgled . they have no getting burgled. they have no ttt— getting burgled. they have no worries. and then there's us, you— worries. and then there's us, wou ttow— worries. and then there's us, wou ttow tte— worries. and then there's us, you know, the others . /r:::r. you know, the others. you know, twe— you know, the others. you know, two got— you know, the others. you know, i've got massive sympathy for

the police in this coral and it's very difficult to talk about topics like this without being at times critical of the police. sometimes they police. and sometimes they deserve a bit of criticism. all right. okay. fair enough. right. okay. that's fair enough. but look the but you've got to look at the bigger pictures here as i think you're well. amount you're doing as well. the amount of that they're dealing of numbers that they're dealing with, different of numbers that they're dealing with, of different of numbers that they're dealing with, of crime, different of numbers that they're dealing with, of crime, they'refferent of numbers that they're dealing with, of crime, they're getting types of crime, they're getting very little backup to no backup from political class who from our political class who i mean, got be honest with mean, i've got to be honest with you, i wouldn't you, sadiq khan, i wouldn't trust him run bath or walk trust him to run a bath or walk my but he's able to stand my dog. but he's able to stand on plinth and go go, oh, on a plinth and go and go, oh, well, know, our police are well, you know, our police are institutionally racist and sexist and homophobic and of sexist and homophobic and all of this well, hang on this stuff. and. well, hang on a minute. happens who minute. what happens then? who wants and join the met wants to go and join the met police? and we talk about some people about people ramping up about defunding them and all of this. we've massive societal we've got massive societal issues, but just can't help issues, but i just can't help but when we're confronted but wonder when we're confronted with like we've got with stories like we've got today of stories today and the kind of stories it's affected you. you know, 200,000 unsolved burglaries went last ask the last year. you've got to ask the question, why last year. you've got to ask the que be tn, why last year. you've got to ask the que be a why last year. you've got to ask the que be a criminal? why last year. you've got to ask the que be a criminal? why why last year. you've got to ask the que be a criminal? why bother not be a criminal? why bother working life? why working all your life? why bother pay your taxes bother trying to pay your taxes when you could just go round and

kick neighbour's front door kick your neighbour's front door and own and and nick everything they own and you 77% chance you probably got 77% chance of getting with carl getting away with it. carl i know because they gave us the statistics when they eventually came to to us and came round to talk to us and they said, you know, if we they said, you know, if, if we did catch these people, did ever catch these people, which highly unlikely which it's highly unlikely we won't. so you feel won't. so that makes you feel great— won't. so that makes you feel great-att— won't. so that makes you feel great-art wour,- won't. so that makes you feel great-all your, all- no" 0 so that makes you feel great all your, all your great when all your, all your tewetterw— great when all your, all your tewetterw att— great when all your, all your jewellery and everything else tas— jewellery and everything else tas-stotet— jewellery and everything else has-stolen and- jewellery and everything else has stolen and you know, has been stolen and you know, ttew-re— has been stolen and you know, wews—ott- has been stolen and you know, they're—off. and. they're going to get off. and tte— they're going to get off. and the _ patrick, - they're going to get off. and the—patrick, i. they're going to get off. and. the—patrick, i have the other thing, patrick, i have to-wou— the other thing, patrick, i have to-wou ttts. — the other thing, patrick, i have to-you this. why- the other thing, patrick, i have to you this. why is it in to ask you this. why is it in ttts— to ask you this. why is it in ttts souttrw,— to ask you this. why is it in this country, if— to ask you this. why is it in this country, if someone is saugtt— this country, if someone is saugtt att— this country, if someone is caught and-do- this country, if someone is caught and do get caught and they do get a sentence,-are- caught and they do get a sentence, are they then let sentence, why are they then let off sentence, why are they then let ott-tetoree— sentence, why are they then let off-before?lmean,- sentence, why are they then let off before? mean, if off years before? i mean, if ttew-re— off years before? i mean, if ttew-re gtwet— off years before? i mean, if they're given life, that means tte— they're given life, that means ttelprtsot.— they're given life, that means life . prison. and _ they're given life, that means life prison. and surely if life in prison. and surely if ttew— life in prison. and surely if they something, life in prison. and surely if. they-something, you they admit to something, you ttow— they admit to something, you know, _jewellery - they admit to something, you know, jewellery was was know, if the jewellery was was tt— know, if the jewellery was was tt ttet— know, if the jewellery was was was in their possession, for exartpte— was in their possession, for example, they're guilty. end of ttat,— example, they're guilty. end of ttat—te- example, they're guilty. end ofi that,_be allowed that, they shouldn't be allowed tolout— that, they shouldn't be allowed to i out - streets. - that, they shouldn't be allowed to.out-streets. but. to go out on the streets. but tte— to go out on the streets. but tte taxpawer— to go out on the streets. but the taxpayer then has to look att— the taxpayer then has to look att-ttert— the taxpayer then has to look and-them this- the taxpayer then has to look and them this wonderful and give them this wonderful life—haven't- and give them this wonderful| life—haven't-to life where they haven't got to worrw—ot - life where they haven't got to worrw—ot tte| worry about the food on the tatte— worry about the food on the tatte or— worry about the food on the table or the— worry about the food on the table or the electricity or wtatewer. — table or the electricity or whatever. they've pretty whatever. they've got a pretty sustw— whatever. they've got a pretty sustw-ttere-s— whatever. they've got a pretty cushy there's little cushy life. there's very little teterrett. — cushy life. there's very little deterrent. and— cushy life. there's very little deterrent. r: g: deterrent. and you've managed to, think their cover arguably to, i think their cover arguably every different element every single different element to carl and really to this story. carl and i really appreciate i am appreciate it. and i am incredibly sorry, as i'm sure

everyone watching listening everyone watching and listening will that had to will be as well, that you had to go such a traumatic go through such a traumatic experience the burglary. go through such a traumatic expethat:e the burglary. go through such a traumatic expethat is the burglary. go through such a traumatic expethat is still the burglary. go through such a traumatic expethat is still affectingary. go through such a traumatic expethat is still affecting your and that is still affecting your life but thank you life today. but thank you very much giving us your views on much for giving us your views on all of this. is carl fordham there, a victim of there, who is a victim of burglary. notice how it not enough too many enough police, too many criminals, as criminals, maybe weak parents as well. unbelievable well. and just an unbelievable amount of perfect storm amount of kind of perfect storm thatis amount of kind of perfect storm that is leading to wonder that is leading me to wonder whether we are becoming whether or not we are becoming ungovernable, whether or not we are lawless. britain, are becoming lawless. britain, if haven't already. gb views if we haven't already. gb views at gb news .uk make sure you get your coming that your views coming in on that because i really want to hear from you. do you feel, look, you've ask yourself this. you've got to ask yourself this. do feel more or less safe do you feel more or less safe than did on the streets 10 than you did on the streets 10 or ago? up next, or 13 years ago? up next, though, tory richard sharp though, tory donor richard sharp has chairman, has resigned as bbc chairman, but will arnie lefties at the beeb him out of

whatever you're listening to gb wews— whatever you're listening to gb wews tatto— whatever you're listening to gb wews tatto .— whatever you're listening to gb news radio . us— whatever you're listening to gb news radio . us goodness news radio. us goodness me. some— news radio. us goodness me. some at— news radio. us goodness me. some at tte— news radio. us goodness me. some of the emails— news radio. us goodness me. some of the emails coming in, by the way, about this lawless britain stuff. bev burgled twice

. car stolen twice. husband's car stolen. accosted the car stolen. accosted in the street, decided to move to france. mean, there you go. france. i mean, there you go. you shouldn't move to you shouldn't have to move to france get from france to get away from the crime this country, should crime in this country, should you? but there we go anyway. right? so moving the bbc right? so moving on the bbc chairman, sharp, chairman, richard sharp, has resigned in, let's face it, a victory lefties everywhere, victory for lefties everywhere, or is it is it a victory for decency? found have decency? he was found to have broken rules by failing to broken the rules by failing to disclose he played a role disclose that he played a role in getting boris johnson an £800,000 guarantee. £800,000 loan guarantee. he will stand the end of june . i stand down at the end of june. i am now joined, though, by political strategist john mcternan. thank you very mcternan. john, thank you very much me. great to much for joining me. great to have the show. got have you on the show. i've got to why it such a problem to ask, why is it such a problem that this particular guy, richard sharp, to the richard sharp, who leans to the right, he's a tory, he's got to go. greg appointed in 2000, donated 50 k to labour. what's that today with inflation, a appointed bbc director general, 2001. gavin davies, labour member and donor appointed chairman of the beeb, two thousand and seven. michael lyons member and former lyons labour member and former labour appointed labour councillor appointed chairman of the bbc. oh. one rule for one and one rule for the other. john now there's

clear rules when was it that people like you on the right thought that it was okay to break rules? the guy broke the west— break rules? the guy broke the ruest te— break rules? the guy broke the ruest te was— break rules? the guy broke the rules, he was lending- 7 the guy broke the rules, he was lending money to the rules, he was lending money to tte rrtrte— rules, he was lending money to the prime minister— rules, he was lending money to the prime minister or guaranteeing a loan to the prime tttttster— guaranteeing a loan to the prime tttttster .— guaranteeing a loan to the prime tttttster. rt-s— guaranteeing a loan to the prime minister. it's against the ruest — minister. it's against the ruest vou— minister. it's against the rules. v/o. cox you minister. it's against the rules. v/o. co 0 you shouldn't rules. you don't. you shouldn't get appotttet— rules. you don't. you shouldn't get appotttet tt— rules. you don't. you shouldn't get appointed if you— rules. v/o. co 0 you shouldn't get appointed if you break the ruest — get appointed if you break the ruest ttt— get appointed if you break the ruest ttt r— get appointed if you break the rules. and i thought i mean, woue— rules. and i thought i mean, woue sart— rules. and i thought i mean, woue satt a— rules. and i thought i mean, you've said a segment on lawlessness,— you've said a segment on lawlessness, which starts with treatttg — lawlessness, which starts with breaking rules. _ lawlessness, which starts with breaking rules. eunice c breaking rules. well, why should this guy be exempt from breaking rules? because he's a tory. no, he shouldn't. and that's one of the reasons why i'm asking you there. but it does appear to me as though that some of the rules are based around political allegiance as though. allegiance as well, though. and whether not. no, no, no, no. whether or not. no, no, no, no. vou— whether or not. no, no, no, no. you-vou— whether or not. no, no, no, no. you-you rust— whether or not. no, no, no, no. you-you just listed- no, no, no, no. you you just listed people you just you just listed people wto— you just you just listed people wto-pertesttw— you just you just listed people who perfectly fairly who are perfectly fairly appotttet— who are perfectly fairly appointed whom it who are perfectly fairly- appointed _whom it was who are perfectly fairly— appointed _whom it was on appointed and for whom it was on the appointed and for whom it was on tte resort— appointed and for whom it was on the record that— appointed and for whom it was on the record that political party, ttew—was- they appointed this was a seset — they appointed this was a secret. .secret- they appointed this was a secret. el: they appointed this was a- secret. .secret agreement by secret. a secret agreement by richard sharp, concealed from the state for dcms. the secretary of state for dcms. i mean, as you well know now, top...— i mean, as you well know now, rott, tte— i mean, as you well know now, john, the conversation is all atout— john, the conversation is all atout tte— john, the conversation is all about the next— john, the conversation is all about the next appointment needs to tot— about the next appointment needs to tot te— about the next appointment needs to not be political. _

about the next appointment needs to not be political. �*vw�*o f 1“ e to not be political. we can't posstttw— to not be political. we can't possibly can't possibly have possibly we can't possibly have a minister in his covid a prime minister in his covid available. iam a prime minister in his covid available. i am available if ttstt— available. i am available if rishi sunak— available. i am available if rishi sunak if— available. i am available if rishi sunak if rishi- i am available if rishi sunak if rishi sunak wtstes— rishi sunak if rishi sunak wishes-prove- rishi sunak if rishi sunak wishes prove this is beyond wishes to prove this is beyond potttss— wishes to prove this is beyond pottttss partw— wishes to prove this is beyond politics, party policy . r1:; wishes to prove this is beyond politics, party policy , .3 us politics, party policy. he can appottt— politics, party policy. he can appottt tte— politics, party policy. he can appoint me appoint you? yeah , appoint me appoint you? yeah, i'd be fine. a tory appointing me. that'd be like above board, wouldn't it ? possibly. that's wouldn't it? possibly. that's tte— wouldn't it? possibly. that's tte atswe— wouldn't it? possibly. that's tte .— wouldn't it? possibly. that's the answer . you— c 1“ e c7 possibly. that's the answer . you should have the answer. you should have tatour— the answer. you should have tatour .— the answer. you should have tatour . vou— the answer. you should have labour. you should appoint a tatour— labour. you should appoint a labour supporter— labour. you should appoint a labour supporter . e labour supporter. the time for a labour supporter. the time for a labour supporter. okay. okay. let's labour supporter. okay. okay. tet-s tave— labour supporter. okay. okay. tet-s tawe a— labour supporter. okay. okay. let's have a chat— labour supporter. okay. okay. let's have a chat about- ” okay. okay. let's have a chat about this ttet.— let's have a chat about this ttet. so— let's have a chat about this ttet. so wou— let's have a chat about this then. so you think that there stoutt— then. so you think that there stoutt te— then. so you think that there stoutt te a— then. so you think that there should be a labour supporter ruttttg— should be a labour supporter ruttttg tte— should be a labour supporter running the beeb ? i mean, it running the beeb? i mean, it tterattw— running the beeb? i mean, it literally wouldn't be the first the, — literally wouldn't be the first the, woutt — literally wouldn't be the first time, would it?— literally wouldn't be the first time, would it? i— literally wouldn't be the first time, would it? i mean i've just rattte— time, would it? i mean i've just rattte ott— time, would it? i mean i've just rattte ott a— time, would it? i mean i've just rattle off a few. _ time, would it? i mean i've just rattle off a few. i— time, would it? i mean i've just rattle off a few. 1“ 4 rattle off a few. i mean, we'll get when kyiv is prime minister, we'll get a labour supporter anyway, so why do it anyway, so why not just do it now? yeah, but this is my point tst-t— now? yeah, but this is my point tst-t pp — now? yeah, but this is my point tst-t pp so— now? yeah, but this is my point isn't it? so everyone's- 7 yeah, but this is my point isn't it? 9:41r9 isn't it? so everyone's getting up in arms about this particular chap, sharp, and oh, chap, richard sharp, and oh, he's links to the tory party he's got links to the tory party and this shows that there's no tory link. no, no. tory link. no, no, no. it's because had a secret because he had a he had a secret role. no, it's a secrecy. it's a secrecy. the guy was concealing the fact he was breaking the rules. that's what the problem

the fact he was breaking the rulif. that's what the problem the fact he was breaking the rulif youat's what the problem the fact he was breaking the rulif you breaklat the problem the fact he was breaking the rulif you break the he problem the fact he was breaking the rulif you break the rules, blem the fact he was breaking the rulif you break the rules, you1 is. if you break the rules, you should be chucked out. and he was resigned. he resigned before he was resigned. he resigned before te-stustet— was resigned. he resigned before he-chucked out. _ was resigned. he resigned before he-chucked out. do- was resigned. he resigned before he-chucked out. do you. was resigned. he resigned before. he-chucked out. do you think he was chucked out. do you think in your view, it indicates that the had right wing bias the bbc had a right wing bias all along? i don't think the all along? no, i don't think the tss— all along? no, i don't think the tts tas— all along? no, i don't think the tts tas a— all along? no, i don't think the bbc has a right— all along? no, i don't think the bbc has a right wing— 97 no, i don't think the bbc has a right wing or a left wttg— bbc has a right wing or a left wttg ttas. — bbc has a right wing or a left wttg ttas. r— bbc has a right wing or a left wing bias. i think- bbc has a right wing or a left wing bias. i think you either like bbc or you don't like like the bbc or you don't like the personally like the the bbc. i personally like the bbc. one can criticise elements of bbc. one can criticise elements ot tte— bbc. one can criticise elements ot tte output,— bbc. one can criticise elements of the output, but— one can criticise elements of the output, but the output tas— of the output, but the output has-something- of the output, but the output has something it for has got something in it for ewerwtotw. — has got something in it for ewerwtotw. r— has got something in it for everybody. i think there's everybody. i don't think there's any— everybody. i don't think there's atw—te— everybody. i don't think there's atw—te or- everybody. i don't think there's atw—te or tte- everybody. i don't think there's any—he or the new. any sense that he or the new director—general— any sense that he or the new director—general brought any potttsat— director—general brought any potttsat-to— director—general brought any political-to _the - director—general brought any political to the point director—general brought any pc dodi l to the point director—general brought any pcdodi not to the point director—general brought any pcdodi not break the point director—general brought any pcdodi not break rules,>int is dodi not break the rules, tot-t— is dodi not break the rules, tot-t ttte— is dodi not break the rules, don't hide things he is dodi not break the rules,- don't hide things-he was don't hide things because he was tttttg— don't hide things because he was hiding-because— don't hide things because he was hiding-because if— hiding it. because if he testaret— hiding it. because if he declared-he- hiding it. because if he declared he wouldn't have declared it, he wouldn't have teet— declared it, he wouldn't have been appointed.— declared it, he wouldn't have been appointed. and like i do ttttt— been appointed. and like i do wttt-ttow— been appointed. and like i do think,-know,-and- been appointed. and like i do think, know, and order, think, you know, law and order, respest— think, you know, law and order, respestltaw— think, you know, law and order, respect-law and— think, you know, law and order, respect law and order starts respect for law and order starts wttt — respect for law and order starts wttt respestttg— respect for law and order starts with respecting rules . so with respecting the rules. so tot-t— with respecting the rules. so tot-t tot-t— with respecting the rules. so don't don't have— with respecting the rules. so don't don't have people in senior positions- don't don't have people in senior positions who break the rutes— senior positions who break the rutes att— senior positions who break the rules and think— senior positions who break the rules and think they can get awaw— rules and think they can get awaw wttt— rules and think they can get away with-and- rules and think they can get away with-and it- rules and think they can get away with and it go it ran away with them and it go it ran rtgtt— away with them and it go it ran rtgtt to— away with them and it go it ran rtgtt to-top— away with them and it go it ran right to-top with- away with them and it go it ran right to top with boris right to the top with boris rottsot— right to the top with boris johnson who— right to the top with boris johnson who yes. was a kind of play— johnson who yes. was a kind of play play— johnson who yes. was a kind of play play fast_ johnson who yes. was a kind of play play fast and— johnson who yes. was a kind of play play fast and loose with the play play fast and loose with tte ruest— play play fast and loose with the rules, didn't— play play fast and loose with the rules, didn't he, through his the rules, didn't he, through trs-ves— the rules, didn't he, through trs-wes — the rules, didn't he, through his-yes well,- the rules, didn't he, through his-yes well, well,| the rules, didn't he, through- his-yes well, well, well his career? yes well, well, well phrased there. i think john. look, i've got to ask, though,

is there not is there is there is there not is there not now a call, a call for potentially someone to go through with a fine through the bbc with a fine tooth comb? mean, you say tooth comb? i mean, you say about breaking the rules. look, i exceptional i get this is an exceptional case. question of case. there's no question of that. you look you look that. if you look at if you look at it through some of the other aspects of this. so, look, you know, old gary lineker's of know, your old gary lineker's of this mean, you know, this world, i mean, you know, openly with his political openly there with his political leanings, there's no impartiality. not off impartiality. did he not get off on a of a technicality? on a bit of a technicality? mainly because a load of other people were going to people said they were going to walk reckon, um, walk out if look, i reckon, um, so does this where does so where does this where does this end? john? this is my point. have to go through point. do we have to go through every producer at bbc point. do we have to go through evthey producer at bbc point. do we have to go through evthey happen oducer at bbc point. do we have to go through evthey happen t01cer at bbc point. do we have to go through evthey happen to havet bbc point. do we have to go through evthey happen to have a bbc point. do we have to go through evthey happen to have a labourz if they happen to have a labour party membership or donor or what? i'm i'd be happy for anybody who guaranteed loan anybody who guaranteed a loan to anybody who guaranteed a loan to a minister sacked. a prime minister to be sacked. i'm with that. like this i'm happy with that. like this is i'm happy with that. like this ts—tattttg- i'm happy with that. like this is_talking about.i is what we're talking about. sortettttg— is what we're talking about. something-that. is what we're talking about. something that it is what we're talking about.- something-that it was something so serious that it was tetteratetw— something so serious that it was deliberately _we're. deliberately concealed. we're not deliberately concealed. we're tot—wourl not talking about what your potttsat—rl not talking about what your- political_| mean, political opinions are. i mean, gary— political opinions are. i mean, sarw ureter-s— political opinions are. i mean, gary lineker's views on public massive discourse massive public discourse are irrelevant is or irrelevant to whether he is or is not a good commentator on football. um, he was a great toottatter— football. um, he was a great footballer and— football. um, he was a great footballer and he's- um, he was a great

footballer and he's a great commentator— footballer and he's a great commentator and he and he commentator and he and yeah, he expressed— commentator and he and yeah, he expressed-which— commentator and he and yeah, he expressed-which i- commentator and he and yeah, he expressed which i agree expressed views which i agree wttt— expressed views which i agree wttt ot— expressed views which i agree with on, on refugees and asylum seeetrs tut— with on, on refugees and asylum seekers. but more— with on, on refugees and asylum seekers. but more importantly, ttew— seekers. but more importantly, ttew tave— seekers. but more importantly, they have nothing to do with his astuat— they have nothing to do with his astuat tot.— they have nothing to do with his astuat tot. tte— they have nothing to do with his actual job. the great the great tss— actual job. the great the great tts tews— actual job. the great the great bbc news correspondent that we ttat— bbc news correspondent that we ttat-tte— bbc news correspondent that we ttat-tte att— bbc news correspondent that we that like and respect and that we like and respect and tstet— that we like and respect and ttstet to— that we like and respect and listen to and— that we like and respect and listen to and the— that we like and respect and listen to and the ones who do ttterwew— listen to and the ones who do interview shows— listen to and the ones who do interview shows to host shows tte— interview shows to host shows tte wous— interview shows to host shows tte wous we— interview shows to host shows like yours. we don't know what ttet— like yours. we don't know what ttetr wews— like yours. we don't know what their views are. _ like yours. we don't know what their views are. and that's rtgtt. — their views are. and that's rtgtt. we— their views are. and that's right. we shouldn't know the wews— right. we shouldn't know the views news journalists. views of the news journalists. we views of the news journalists. we —prettwl views of the news journalists. - we—prettw strotg we mean we have a pretty strong ttttsattot— we mean we have a pretty strong ttttsattot-a— we mean we have a pretty strong indication-a.of- indication when a lot of them tett— indication when a lot of them tett to— indication when a lot of them tend to leave— indication when a lot of them tend to leave bbc and go and tend to leave the bbc and go and do tend to leave the bbc and go and to werw— tend to leave the bbc and go and to werw tett— tend to leave the bbc and go and to werw tett wttg— tend to leave the bbc and go and do very left wing podcasts, ttougt— do very left wing podcasts, though, don't— do very left wing podcasts, though, don't we? ” though, don't we? to be fair. tut— though, don't we? to be fair. but but john, in terms of but but john, just in terms of the look, look, look, look, look at bbc journalists at the number of bbc journalists who've up working for the who've ended up working for the for number in the last 13 for number 10 in the last 13 years, which have been according to viewers, 13 years to your your viewers, 13 years of lawlessness, tory of lawlessness, 13 years of tory failure on law and order. okay . failure on law and order. okay. so just in terms of the next appointment, john, terms the next appointment, how would you like to see this done? because you do we what kind of you know, who do we what kind of person , what kind of person do person, what kind of person do we have to get now let's get a

black woman. okay . we have to get now let's get a black woman. okay. okay. we have to get now let's get a black woman. okay . okay. why black woman. okay. okay. why that'd be nice. a bit of ttwersttw— that'd be nice. a bit of diversity at— that'd be nice. a bit of diversity at the- c 1�* o; a bit of diversity at the top. let's see tte— diversity at the top. let's see some. the the— diversity at the top. let's see some. the the top of the bbc is sttu— some. the the top of the bbc is stttt to— some. the the top of the bbc is stttt to pate,— some. the the top of the bbc is still to pale, male— some. the the top of the bbc is still to pale, male and stale. tet-s— still to pale, male and stale. tet-s get— still to pale, male and stale. tet-s get a— still to pale, male and stale. let's get a young— still to pale, male and stale. let's get a young black woman . let's get a young black woman. tegarttess— let's get a young black woman. regardless whether— let's get a young black woman. regardless whether or— let's get a young black woman. regardless whether or not- regardless whether or not competent a different perspective at the top. there are many, many, many- there are many, many, many young black women who are highly competent, must— women who are highly competent, much more competent certainly ttat— much more competent certainly ttat r— much more competent certainly ttat r at— much more competent certainly ttat r at tt— much more competent certainly ttat r at tt tw— much more competent certainly than i am in my job. okay, just out at— than i am in my job. okay, just out of interest, if you advertise for that job specifically black woman, specifically for a black woman, would not be racial would that not be racial discrimination? john i'm not saying you should. you should atwerttse— saying you should. you should atwerttse tor— saying you should. you should advertise for that. _ saying you should. you should advertise for that. i'm- 19 : you should advertise for that. i'm saying ttat— advertise for that. i'm saying ttat ttew— advertise for that. i'm saying that they should— advertise for that. i'm saying that they should appoint that werw— that they should appoint that very different.— that they should appoint that very different. okay ” 9 very different. okay all right. wett— very different. okay all right. wett. r— very different. okay all right. well, i mean, i mean, i could talk to you about that all day. i mean, just just just out of it. i've got to press on this. i'm get told to go, but i'm sorry. i get told to go, but we can't. we can't we can't ignore this grenade that you just lobbed here, john. so just lobbed in here, john. so you be for bbc you would be happy for the bbc to apropos nothing , just to apropos of nothing, just go. look, don't. don't care look, i don't. i don't care exactly what happens next, but as as it is a black woman as long as it is a black woman that's charge of the bbc,

that's in charge of the bbc, that's in charge of the bbc, that be it . yeah. that's in charge of the bbc, that be it. yeah. a young that has to be it. yeah. a young ttast— that has to be it. yeah. a young ttast wortat— that has to be it. yeah. a young black woman or— that has to be it. yeah. a young black woman or an— that has to be it. yeah. a young black woman or an older- 0 yeah. a young black woman or an older black tet-s.— black woman or an older black woman. let's. let's. let's put ooeet— woman. let's. let's. let's put doreen _charge. woman. let's. let's. let's put doreen _charge .i woman. let's. let's. let's put- doreen _charge . let's doreen lawrence in charge. let's put—tt- doreen lawrence in charge. let's put—rt stargel doreen lawrence in charge. let's put—rt starge -i put doreen lawrence in charge. toot,— put doreen lawrence in charge. toot-pott— put doreen lawrence in charge. toot-pottt ts— put doreen lawrence in charge. toot-pottt ts ,— put doreen lawrence in charge. look,-point is , the- put doreen lawrence in charge. look, point is , the problem look, the point is, the problem wttt— look, the point is, the problem wttt tte— look, the point is, the problem wttt tte tss— look, the point is, the problem with the bbc is— look, the point is, the problem with the bbc is if— look, the point is, the problem with the bbc is if you don't attte— with the bbc is if you don't attte tw— with the bbc is if you don't abide by processes like richard stape— abide by processes like richard starpe or— abide by processes like richard starpe or tte— abide by processes like richard sharpe or the problem is also it's sharpe or the problem is also tt-s too— sharpe or the problem is also it's too reflective _ sharpe or the problem is also it's too reflective of pale male state— it's too reflective of pale male state wews— it's too reflective of pale male stale views still— it's too reflective of pale male stale views still at— it's too reflective of pale male stale views still at the top. tet-s— stale views still at the top. tet-s get— stale views still at the top. tet-s get a— stale views still at the top. let's get a woman at the top. tet-s— let's get a woman at the top. tet-s get— let's get a woman at the top. tet-s get sorte— let's get a woman at the top. let's get some real change. a woman we need— let's get some real change. a woman we need a— let's get some real change. a woman we need a woman chair. we teet— woman we need a woman chair. we teet we— woman we need a woman chair. we teet we rust— woman we need a woman chair. we teet we tust teet— woman we need a woman chair. we need we just need change. having a woman in charge— need we just need change. having a woman in charge breaks open ttstttuttots— a woman in charge breaks open ttstttuttots. r— a woman in charge breaks open institutions. i mean, it took baroness casey— institutions. i mean, it took baroness casey to break open the suture— baroness casey to break open the sutture ot— baroness casey to break open the sutture ot tte— baroness casey to break open the culture of the metropolitan rouse— culture of the metropolitan rotse .— culture of the metropolitan rotse . r— culture of the metropolitan rotse . r to— culture of the metropolitan police . i do think a culture of the metropolitan police. i do think a woman's perspesttwe— police. i do think a woman's perspective does— police. i do think a woman's perspective does change things. i perspective does change things. r ttttt— perspective does change things. r ttttt wtet— perspective does change things. i think when you— perspective does change things. i think when you have a woman toss— i think when you have a woman toss tt— i think when you have a woman toss tt mates— i think when you have a woman boss, it makes things better. ott— boss, it makes things better. tte-teat.— boss, it makes things better. did .yeah. all- boss, it makes things better. did .yeah. all right.- boss, it makes things better. did .yeah. all right. i. boss, it makes things better.- did .yeah. all right. i mean, did it? yeah. all right. i mean, look, words there, cressida look, two words there, cressida dick. mean, here we are dick. and i mean, here we are now with a new report it now with a new report about it being. but anyway, look, john, you should never have been. she should have been sacked- she should have been sacked when she wtet— should have been sacked when she wtetowesaw-— should have been sacked when she when .oversaw the _ when she oversaw the assassination as assassination of george albie as assassination of george albie as a—ot— assassination of george albie as a—ot course- assassination of george albie as a—ot stel assassination of george albie as. a_0f course, she was a woman. and of course, she was white. so, i mean, maybe that was went wrong.

was where she went wrong. look, john, you, mcternan john, thank you, john mcternan there, political strategist. wow. loads more wow. okay. all right. loads more to as we now at 6:00, we to come as we now at 6:00, we were a bonfire were promised a bonfire of eu laws, that bonfire seems to laws, but that bonfire seems to have extinguished and have been extinguished and a survey has found that kate is the country's favourite royal. i will what makes so will be asking what makes her so special. it's your special. but now it's your latest with ray latest headlines with ray allison . latest headlines with ray allison. 5:33. latest headlines with ray allison . 5:33. and our top story allison. 5:33. and our top story tottgtt— allison. 5:33. and our top story tottgtt ,— allison. 5:33. and our top story tonight , richard— 1“ 5:33. and our top story tonight, richard sharp so“ 5:33. and our top story tonight, richard sharp has restgtet— tonight, richard sharp has restgtet as— tonight, richard sharp has resigned as chairman of the bbc arter— resigned as chairman of the bbc atter a— resigned as chairman of the bbc atter a report— resigned as chairman of the bbc after a report found that he treastet— after a report found that he breached the— after a report found that he breached the rules for public appotttrtetts.— breached the rules for public appointments. the review says he tattet— appointments. the review says he tattet to— appointments. the review says he failed to properly— appointments. the review says he failed to properly disclose his involvement— failed to properly disclose his involvement in— failed to properly disclose his involvement in facilitating an ssooooo— involvement in facilitating an £800,000 loan— involvement in facilitating an £800,000 loan guarantee for torts— £800,000 loan guarantee for boris johnson— £800,000 loan guarantee for boris johnson .— £800,000 loan guarantee for boris johnson . mr sharp says the boris johnson. mr sharp says the treast— boris johnson. mr sharp says the treast was— boris johnson. mr sharp says the breach was inadvertent and he's gutttttg— breach was inadvertent and he's gutttttg to— breach was inadvertent and he's quitting to prioritise the ttterests— quitting to prioritise the interests of _ quitting to prioritise the interests of the broadcaster tottowttg— interests of the broadcaster following calls _ interests of the broadcaster following calls from labour that he following calls from labour that te stoutt— following calls from labour that he should have— following calls from labour that he should have been sacked . the he should have been sacked. the ttte— he should have been sacked. the prime minister— he should have been sacked. the prime minister says— he should have been sacked. the prime minister says the right poses— prime minister says the right process was followed. this is atout— process was followed. this is atout tottg— process was followed. this is about doing things properly and protesstotattw— about doing things properly and professionally and when concerns are professionally and when concerns ratset— professionally and when concerns ratset tts— professionally and when concerns are raised it's right— professionally and when concerns

are raised it's right that there is are raised it's right that there ts a— are raised it's right that there ts a proper— are raised it's right that there is a proper process, an independent- is a proper process, an independent process that we tot-t— independent process that we tot-t pretutge. — independent process that we don't prejudge. �*vwa�*o e don't prejudge. we allow it to carry on, establish the facts of what happened, reach a conclusion that's happened. richard sharp has resigned. but it's right that we do these things properly and professionally. i think most people will think that's people will think that that's the right thing to do. police investigate the murder of a pregnant teacher in scotland have confirmed that they've found body her missing found the body of her missing partner police had been partner where police had been looking 36 year david looking for 36 year old david yates in connection with the death of murrell. sturrock at a totte— death of murrell. sturrock at a torte tt— death of murrell. sturrock at a home in glasgow— death of murrell. sturrock at a home in glasgow on- c tte. ”ole sturrock at a home in glasgow on tuesday . c tte. ”ole sturrock at a home in glasgow on tuesday. mr rates-s— home in glasgow on tuesday. mr vatesswee-— home in glasgow on tuesday. mr yates's-were found- home in glasgow on tuesday. mr yates's were found after yates's remains were found after searches-mugdock— yates's remains were found after searches mugdock reservoir. searches of mugdock reservoir. his searches of mugdock reservoir. tts teatt— searches of mugdock reservoir. tts teatt ts— searches of mugdock reservoir. his death is not— searches of mugdock reservoir. his death is not being treated as susptstous— his death is not being treated as suspicious .— his death is not being treated as suspicious . members of the as suspicious. members of the out — as suspicious. members of the out utot— as suspicious. members of the gmb union have— as suspicious. members of the gmb union have accepted the government's— gmb union have accepted the government's pay offer to health workers— government's pay offer to health worersk ot— government's pay offer to health worersk ot a— government's pay offer to health workers of a 5%_ government's pay offer to health workers of a 5% pay rise and a ott— workers of a 5% pay rise and a ott sast— workers of a 5% pay rise and a one off cash sum.— workers of a 5% pay rise and a one off cash sum. gmb officials say— one off cash sum. gmb officials saw ttew— one off cash sum. gmb officials saw ttew wttt— one off cash sum. gmb officials say they will now— one off cash sum. gmb officials say they will now vote to accept the say they will now vote to accept tte otter— say they will now vote to accept tte otter at— say they will now vote to accept tte otter at a— say they will now vote to accept the offer at a meeting next week of the offer at a meeting next week ot tte— the offer at a meeting next week ot tte wts— the offer at a meeting next week of the nhs staff— the offer at a meeting next week of the nhs staff council health sesretarw— of the nhs staff council health secretary steve _ of the nhs staff council health secretary steve barclay says the teat— secretary steve barclay says the deal recognises— secretary steve barclay says the deal recognises the outstanding job deal recognises the outstanding tot ot— deal recognises the outstanding tot ot wts—

deal recognises the outstanding job of nhs staff— deal recognises the outstanding job of nhs staff whilst protestttg— job of nhs staff whilst protecting the government's sortrtttrtett— protecting the government's commitment to _ protecting the government's commitment to halve inflation. tte— commitment to halve inflation. tte prttts— commitment to halve inflation. tte prttts att— commitment to halve inflation. the prints and princess of wales tawe— the prints and princess of wales tawe patt— the prints and princess of wales tawe patt at— the prints and princess of wales have paid an emotional visit to a wetst— have paid an emotional visit to a welsh village— have paid an emotional visit to a welsh village to— have paid an emotional visit to a welsh village to remember the wtsttrts— a welsh village to remember the wtsttrts ot— a welsh village to remember the victims of the— a welsh village to remember the victims of the 1966— a welsh village to remember the victims of the 1966 aberfan ttsaster— victims of the 1966 aberfan ttsaster .— victims of the 1966 aberfan disaster . over— victims of the 1966 aberfan disaster . over 116 children victims of the 1966 aberfan disaster. over 116 children and 28 disaster. over 116 children and so atutts— disaster. over 116 children and 28 adults were— disaster. over 116 children and 28 adults were killed after a sotterw— 28 adults were killed after a sottterw spott— 28 adults were killed after a colliery spoil tip— 28 adults were killed after a colliery spoil tip collapsed east— colliery spoil tip collapsed east otto— colliery spoil tip collapsed east otto a— colliery spoil tip collapsed east onto a school and neighbouring- east onto a school and neighbouring homes. william and kate— neighbouring homes. william and kate wtsttet— neighbouring homes. william and kate visited the— neighbouring homes. william and kate visited the aberfan ttertortat— kate visited the aberfan memorial garden to pay their respests— memorial garden to pay their respests .— memorial garden to pay their respects . we're— memorial garden to pay their respects . we're on tv online on respects. we're on tv online on oatr — respects. we're on tv online on oatr tatto— respects. we're on tv online on dab+ radio and— respects. we're on tv online on dab+ radio and on— respects. we're on tv online on dab+ radio and on tune in to ttts— dab+ radio and on tune in to ttts ts— dab+ radio and on tune in to ttts ts ot— dab+ radio and on tune in to this is gb news— dab+ radio and on tune in to this is gb news patrick's coming rtgtt— this is gb news patrick's coming rtgtt task. — this is gb news patrick's coming rtgtt task. rust— this is gb news patrick's coming right back. just in— this is gb news patrick's coming right back. just in a— this is gb news patrick's coming right back. just in a moment. trest— right back. just in a moment. direct bullion— right back. just in a moment. direct bullion sponsors the tttatse— direct bullion sponsors the finance report— direct bullion sponsors the finance report on gb news for gott— finance report on gb news for gott att— finance report on gb news for gold and silver— finance report on gb news for gold and silver investment . gold and silver investment. okaw— gold and silver investment. okayr here-s— gold and silver investment. okayr teres a— gold and silver investment. okay, here's a quick snapshot of totaw-s— okay, here's a quick snapshot of today's markets.— okay, here's a quick snapshot of today's markets. the pound will

buy— today's markets. the pound will tuw wou— today's markets. the pound will tuw wou tss— today's markets. the pound will buy you 1.25, seven, $9 and l ttos— buy you 1.25, seven, $9 and l trso. tte— buy you 1.25, seven, $9 and - ,1.139. the price- buy you 1.25, seven, $9 and ,1.139. the price of gold is - ,1.139. the price of gold is frost-ot— - ,1.139. the price of gold is srtszot per— - ,1.139. the price of gold is £1,582.04 per ounce,— - ,1.139. the price of gold is £1,582.04 per ounce, and- ,1.139. the price of gold is £1,582.04 per ounce, and the ttst— £1,582.04 per ounce, and the ttst oo— £1,582.04 per ounce, and the ftse 100 closed— £1,582.04 per ounce, and the ftse 100 closed .— £1,582.04 per ounce, and the ftse 100 closed . at 7870 points. ftse 100 closed. at 7870 points. otrest— ftse 100 closed. at 7870 points. direct bullion _ ftse 100 closed. at 7870 points. direct bullion sponsors the tttatse— direct bullion sponsors the finance report— direct bullion sponsors the finance report on gb news investments— finance report on gb news investments that matter . ?94 investments that matter. right. wetsome— investments that matter. right. welcome back. _ investments that matter. right. welcome back. it's— investments that matter. right. welcome back. it's me, patrick christys here on gb news. now, who do you think is the most popular member of the royal family could it be charles? could it be william? surely it's not harry. well, it's none could it be william? surely it's nothem.i. well, it's none could it be william? surely it's nothem. it's well, it's none could it be william? surely it's nothem. it's actuallyt's none could it be william? surely it's nothem. it's actually katetne could it be william? surely it's nothem. it's actually kate and of them. it's actually kate and king charles is back in fifth place behind kate. william is grandchildren sister , grandchildren and his sister, anne, princess royal. the anne, the princess royal. the poll makes for especially grim reading for queen consort camilla, believe it or not, camilla, who believe it or not, is as unpopular as meghan markle. now, okay. i don't believe every single poll that i read, but i can't believe that there an element truth to there is an element of truth to some the bits of bobs of

some of the bits of bobs of that. so should the crown have passed over charles camilla passed over charles and camilla and to william and and gone straight to william and kate instead ? there is a huge kate instead? there is a huge variety of opinion on this, as is evidenced by the amount of you getting in touch. so tradition what a&e dear queen would as well. she would have wanted as well. she was clearly very much of the idea that should take idea that charles should take oven the idea that charles should take over. the way things over. that is the way the things are charles and camilla are done. charles and camilla have accumulator of have an accumulator pot of wisdom, other wisdom, don't they? that other people not have . and people simply do not have. and that the way that we should that is the way that we should do things. ever you could do things. how ever you could make case, couldn't make the case, couldn't you, that day and age, that in the modern day and age, william kate are more william and kate are more popular, maybe more energy, and that might be the best that this might be the best thing to for have a longer thing to do for have a longer reign and cement the monarchy in british society. can see both british society. i can see both sides it. i'm certainly not sides of it. i'm certainly not going to be saying that. i think. king charles be think. king charles should be abdicating that abdicating any time soon. that is not my view. but is definitely not my view. but what you make it? joining what do you make of it? joining me is grant. harold is a me now is grant. harold is a former butler to the now former royal butler to the now king charles and james waldhausen, is a visiting waldhausen, who is a visiting professor bank professor at london south bank university. great stuff. and james, start with you. why

james, i'll start with you. why not? do you think that king charles should have abdicated in favour william ? no, i favour favour of william? no, i favour the abolition— favour of william? no, i favour the abolition of— favour of william? no, i favour the abolition of the— ” �*vwa�* 4 e7 no, i favour the abolition of the monarchy. ttgtt— the abolition of the monarchy. ktgtt .— the abolition of the monarchy. ktgtt . okaw— the abolition of the monarchy. ktgtt . okaw. okaw— the abolition of the monarchy. right . okay. okay so- the abolition of the monarchy. right. okay. okay so you just aboush right. okay. okay so you just abolish them all, would you? why because they've got too much power. because you can't vote ttet — power. because you can't vote ttet out. — power. because you can't vote them out. because— because you can't vote them out. because charles has atreatw— them out. because charles has atreatw ptawet— them out. because charles has atreatw ptawet a— them out. because charles has already played a disreputable rote— already played a disreputable rote tw— already played a disreputable role by endorsing the european uttot— role by endorsing the european uttot tt— role by endorsing the european uttot t. r— role by endorsing the european union in. i don't— role by endorsing the european union in. i don't know what you tattsk— union in. i don't know what you mean, patrick, by— union in. i don't know what you mean, patrick, by saying he and sauna— mean, patrick, by saying he and sartttta tawe— mean, patrick, by saying he and camilla have an— mean, patrick, by saying he and camilla have an accumulated pot of camilla have an accumulated pot ot wtstoru— camilla have an accumulated pot ot wtstort. rt— camilla have an accumulated pot of wisdom. if you're— camilla have an accumulated pot of wisdom. if you're talking to ptatts— of wisdom. if you're talking to ptatts or— of wisdom. if you're talking to plants or you're _ of wisdom. if you're talking to plants or you're continually sawttg— plants or you're continually sawttg ttat— plants or you're continually saying that the— plants or you're continually saying that the planet has only x saying that the planet has only x rtottts— saying that the planet has only x rtottts to— saying that the planet has only x months to live— saying that the planet has only x months to live doesn't sound werw— x months to live doesn't sound werw we— x months to live doesn't sound werw to— x months to live doesn't sound werw to te— x months to live doesn't sound very wise to me. _ x months to live doesn't sound very wise to me . cj

or respest tor— working for them, i've got a lot of respect for them. i think ttat,— of respect for them. i think ttat, wou— of respect for them. i think that, you know,— of respect for them. i think that, you know, the popularity pott— that, you know, the popularity pott ts— that, you know, the popularity poll is important— that, you know, the popularity poll is important because it stows— poll is important because it stows tt— poll is important because it shows it shows— poll is important because it shows it shows us all who's poputat— shows it shows us all who's poputar, wto-s— shows it shows us all who's popular, who's not. and it's atso— popular, who's not. and it's also important— popular, who's not. and it's also important because i think the also important because i think tte ote— also important because i think tte ttttg— also important because i think the one thing the— also important because i think the one thing the royal family is the one thing the royal family ts wtat— the one thing the royal family ts wttat ts— the one thing the royal family is vital is that,— the one thing the royal family is vital is that, you know, ttese— is vital is that, you know, these popularity polls, they do take— these popularity polls, they do take _seriously. - these popularity polls, they do take seriously. and it is take them seriously. and it is otwtoustw— take them seriously. and it is obviously worrying that the new oueet— obviously worrying that the new oueet sotsort— obviously worrying that the new queen consort is— obviously worrying that the new queen consort is at the same as as ttegtat— queen consort is at the same as as ttegtat. tut— queen consort is at the same as as meghan. but i— queen consort is at the same as as meghan. but i did notice that trott— as meghan. but i did notice that trort tte— as meghan. but i did notice that from the 4000— as meghan. but i did notice that from the 4000 people that think atout— from the 4000 people that think atout tatt— from the 4000 people that think atout tatt ot— from the 4000 people that think about half of them— from the 4000 people that think about half of them did say that the about half of them did say that tte-tottg— about half of them did say that tte-tottg a— about half of them did say that the-doing a good- about half of them did say that the doing a good job. so the king is doing a good job. so it's the king is doing a good job. so tt-s sttu— the king is doing a good job. so tt-s stttt tow.— the king is doing a good job. so it's still low. but— the king is doing a good job. so it's still low. but at least it is it's still low. but at least it ts rust— it's still low. but at least it ts tust rust— it's still low. but at least it is just just under half of them. ttt— is just just under half of them. ktt tte— is just just under half of them. ktt tte ttttg— is just just under half of them. and the thing about the monarchy is, and the thing about the monarchy ts—rtotarstw— and the thing about the monarchy ts—rtotarstw tt- and the thing about the monarchy is,_monarchy, if we - is, i think the monarchy, if we ttat-t— is, i think the monarchy, if we wttt-ttat,— is, i think the monarchy, if we didn't-that,-have. didn't have that, we'd have a presttett. — didn't have that, we'd have a president. and— didn't have that, we'd have a president. and just think the president. and i just think the rtatorttw— president. and i just think the rtatorttw ot— president. and i just think the majority of people still majority of people would still agree— majority of people would still agree-tts— majority of people would still agree-it's great- majority of people would still agree it's great having a agree that it's great having a towar— agree that it's great having a rowat-tatter— agree that it's great having a royal rather than an royal family rather than an etestet— royal family rather than an elected head— royal family rather than an elected head . _ royal family rather than an elected head . �*vwav“ev royal family rather than an elected head . �*vwav“e4 co royal family rather than an- elected head . what do you think? elected head. what do you think? let's just stick with you for a second. what do you think of the idea that maybe the monarchy would have been for secure a longer of time , more longer period of time, more popular they'd have lobbed it popular if they'd have lobbed it over to william and kate and their family and they could have had very crack at it, had a very good crack at it, presumably decades, presumably for decades, all

being , i mean, that's being well, i mean, that's that's a fact, isn't it, patrick? we know that the poputar— patrick? we know that the poputar r— patrick? we know that the popular i mean,- rose/17 we know that the popular i mean, there isn't ttere-s— popular i mean, there isn't there's nobody— popular i mean, there isn't there's nobody in recent years ttat— there's nobody in recent years ttat twe— there's nobody in recent years ttat r-we ttet— there's nobody in recent years that i've met that— there's nobody in recent years that i've met that don't like tte— that i've met that don't like tte-ttet.— that i've met that don't like the-them. and- that i've met that don't like the them. and there's no the two of them. and there's no guesttot— the two of them. and there's no guesttot ttat— the two of them. and there's no question that the— the two of them. and there's no question that the future with ttet — question that the future with ttet -put— question that the future with ttet -put tt- question that the future with them-put it in- question that the future with them put it in good hands. them would put it in good hands. but them would put it in good hands. tut-atout— them would put it in good hands. but-about the- them would put it in good hands. but-about the king- them would put it in good hands. but about the king is but the thing about the king is he but the thing about the king is te was— but the thing about the king is te atwaws— but the thing about the king is he was always when i worked he was always even when i worked for he was always even when i worked tor-awarelwtat- he was always even when i worked for- aware .what the - for him, i'm aware of what the job for him, i'm aware of what the tot-ttt— for him, i'm aware of what the tot-tte te- for him, i'm aware of what the job and he wouldn't job involves. and he wouldn't rust— job involves. and he wouldn't rust-to— job involves. and he wouldn't rust-to-ttat- job involves. and he wouldn't just-to .that on - just want to pass that on tesause— just want to pass that on because basically they've atreatw— because basically they've atreatw-ot- because basically they've already _of the i already lost a lot of the freedoms — already lost a lot of the freedoms. and, you know, when you— freedoms. and, you know, when wou-rote— freedoms. and, you know, when wou-rote-ttat-sl you take that role on, that's it. you take that role on, that's tt. ttere-s— you take that role on, that's it. there's-kind- you take that role on, that's it. there's kind of coming it. there's no kind of coming task.— it. there's no kind of coming back-lt— it. there's no kind of coming back-i-that- it. there's no kind of coming back..i-that he- it. there's no kind of coming back. i that he will back. so i think that he will watt— back. so i think that he will watt to— back. so i think that he will want to protect— back. so i think that he will want to protect them as long as he want to protect them as long as te sat— want to protect them as long as te ttt— want to protect them as long as he can. and will— want to protect them as long as he can. and will not abdicate. ttt— he can. and will not abdicate. ktt atso— he can. and will not abdicate. ktt atso, tt— he can. and will not abdicate. and also, if it— he can. and will not abdicate. and also, if it suddenly became a-we startet- and also, if it suddenly became a we started looking a case that we started looking at—wou- a case that we started lookingj at—wou startet at these polls and you started etestttg— at these polls and you started electing obviously, voting electing obviously, say, voting for electing obviously, say, voting tor—ttatl for your favourite royal, that is for your favourite royal, that ts—etestetl for your favourite royal, that. is_elected state is like having an elected state of_we— is like having an elected state of-state instead- is like having an elected state of state instead of just of head of state instead of just be the— of head of state instead of just be the natural— of head of state instead of just be the natural succession as it is. but— be the natural succession as it is. but i— be the natural succession as it is. but i don-t— be the natural succession as it is. but i don't think the king would— is. but i don't think the king would abdicate.— is. but i don't think the king would abdicate. don't see would abdicate. i just don't see that—tong- would abdicate. i just don't see that—tong as- would abdicate. i just don't see that—long as he'si that happening as long as he's ame— that happening as long as he's able to— that happening as long as he's able to fulfil— that happening as long as he's able to fulfil his— that happening as long as he's able to fulfil his duties. all right.— able to fulfil his duties. all mgm, james— able to fulfil his duties. all right, james, look,- able to fulfil his duties. all right, james, look, mean, right, james, look, i mean, you're listening chap there you're listening to a chap there who's very close who's had very, very close interaction royal who's had very, very close interact and royal who's had very, very close interactand with royal who's had very, very close interactand with ourroyal who's had very, very close interactand with our king and family and with our king and says that knows him pretty says that he knows him pretty well. why not.7 do you

well. james, why not.7 do you know about of this? you're know about all of this? you're saying you saying that, you know, you should monarchy, should abolish the monarchy, that have that he doesn't have a particular accumulated pot of knowledge that they're not a good thing for britain? i mean, what would say to someone what would you say to someone who says you know, who just says that, you know, you've of a chip on you've got a bit of a chip on your mate? oh, i plead your shoulder, mate? oh, i plead guilty to mm,— your shoulder, mate? oh, i plead guilty to that, patrick. - ” : , oh, i plead guilty to that, patrick. ' "g 2 2 , oh, i plead guilty to that, patrick. ' "g 3.3. guilty to that, patrick. any day of me— guilty to that, patrick. any day of the week. and— guilty to that, patrick. any day of the week. and i'm- guilty to that, patrick. ' 3 25m and i'm delighted of the week. and i'm delighted to se— of the week. and i'm delighted to be instructed— of the week. and i'm delighted to be instructed by— and i'm delighted to be instructed by grant, who i knew— to be instructed by grant, who i knew-expert— to be instructed by grant, who i knew-expert m— to be instructed by grant, who i know expert in etiquette. know is an expert in etiquette. leek,— know is an expert in etiquette. leek, ms— know is an expert in etiquette. leek, me me— know is an expert in etiquette. look, it's not just— know is an expert in etiquette. look, it's not just a personal gmemee— look, it's not just a personal grievance. i've— look, it's not just a personal grievance. i've got nothing against— grievance. i've got nothing seems me— grievance. i've got nothing against the man. i don't know me— against the man. i don't know the mem— against the man. i don't know me as— against the man. i don't know the man. as you— against the man. i don't know the man. as you say, i've got nothing— the man. as you say, i've got nothing against— the man. as you say, i've got nothing against the wealth that they— nothing against the wealth that they have— nothing against the wealth that they have, which— nothing against the wealth that they have, which they spend kind of em— they have, which they spend kind of on em— they have, which they spend kind of on our behalf.— they have, which they spend kind of on our behalf. it's a simple eemeemme— of on our behalf. it's a simple democratic principle. i'm sorry .veu— democratic principle. i'm sorry mm mm— democratic principle. i'm sorry . you think it's— democratic principle. i'm sorry . you think it's chippy to say i eee-e— . you think it's chippy to say i eee-e agree— . you think it's chippy to say i don't agree with— . you think it's chippy to say i don't agree with grant that the royalty— don't agree with grant that the reyemy mes— don't agree with grant that the royalty has lost— don't agree with grant that the royalty has lost a— don't agree with grant that the royalty has lost a lot of freedom— royalty has lost a lot of freedom? i— royalty has lost a lot of freedom? i think that the king, the freedom? i think that the king, me mmmm— freedom? i think that the king, the em ,— freedom? i think that the king, the monarch , has— freedom? i think that the king, the monarch , has the power to the monarch, has the power to give— the monarch, has the power to give me— the monarch, has the power to give the assent— the monarch, has the power to give the assent to— the monarch, has the power to give the assent to a new prime minister— give the assent to a new prime minister ee— give the assent to a new prime minister to appoint new prime ministers— minister to appoint new prime ministers ee— minister to appoint new prime ministers to run— minister to appoint new prime ministers to run the privy eemem— ministers to run the privy council, which- ministers to run the privy council, which has 740 members wmese— council, which has 740 members whose proceedings— council, which has 740 members whose proceedings are entirely lemme,— whose proceedings are entirely

privates wmem — whose proceedings are entirely private, which is— whose proceedings are entirely private, which is composed of peers— private, which is composed of peers me— private, which is composed of peers me mes— private, which is composed of peers and mps and judges and so on. peers and mps and judges and so mere-s— peers and mps and judges and so mere-s e— peers and mps and judges and so on. there's a whole— peers and mps and judges and so on. there's a whole apparatus of power— on. there's a whole apparatus of power mere— on. there's a whole apparatus of power there which— on. there's a whole apparatus of power there which is unelected . power there which is unelected. do power there which is unelected. de we— power there which is unelected. do we believe— power there which is unelected. do we believe in— power there which is unelected. do we believe in elections in mm— do we believe in elections in mm eemem— do we believe in elections in mm eemem e— do we believe in elections in this country ? do— do we believe in elections in this country ? do we believe that this country? do we believe that an this country? do we believe that m eleeeee— this country? do we believe that an elected president, with all these— an elected president, with all those dangers— an elected president, with all those dangers is— an elected president, with all those dangers is preferable to an unelected— those dangers is preferable to an unelected monarch who can mem— an unelected monarch who can emew mem— an unelected monarch who can throw their weight about much mm— throw their weight about much more than the— throw their weight about much more than the public imagines ? more than the public imagines? wmm— more than the public imagines? wmm ee— more than the public imagines? wmm ee .— more than the public imagines? what do i know— more than the public imagines? what do i know about the memmem— what do i know about the memmem e— what do i know about the monarchy ? well, i know that they monarchy? well, i know that they can monarchy? well, i know that they mmemse— monarchy? well, i know that they can authorise wars— monarchy? well, i know that they can authorise wars in iraq erg they— can authorise wars in iraq erg mey em— can authorise wars in iraq erg mey m,— can authorise wars in iraq erg they can, uh, as— can authorise wars in iraq erg they can, uh, as i— can authorise wars in iraq erg they can, uh, as i said , try to they can, uh, as i said, try to mmmmme— they can, uh, as i said, try to manipulate popular opinion in fevem— manipulate popular opinion in fevem ef— manipulate popular opinion in favour of brussels and the eu. it favour of brussels and the eu. m wes— favour of brussels and the eu. m eme— favour of brussels and the eu. it was quite outrageous that mmee — it was quite outrageous that prince charles— it was quite outrageous that prince charles went to brussels me— prince charles went to brussels me mee— prince charles went to brussels and glad handed— prince charles went to brussels and glad handed the bureaucracy mere.— and glad handed the bureaucracy mere. wees-s— and glad handed the bureaucracy there. what's apolitical about mm— there. what's apolitical about mm e— there. what's apolitical about mm e wees-s— there. what's apolitical about that ? what's neutral about that? that? what's neutral about that? all he — that? what's neutral about that? all me me— that? what's neutral about that? all he is doing?— that? what's neutral about that? all he is doing? i'll tell you whee. — all he is doing? i'll tell you whee. mu— all he is doing? i'll tell you what. i'll tell— all he is doing? i'll tell you what. i'll tell you,- all he is doing? i'll tell you what. ll ll what. i'll tell you, james. i'll tell you that i'll try and link this back into kind of our original discussion with grant, because i suppose you could argue, you, because i suppose you could argue, you, that argue, grant, couldn't you, that

william tainted this william is less tainted by this stuff charles. has stuff than charles. charles has been around a very long period of time and therefore done of time and therefore has done some that that some of the things that that that being alluded to there that are being alluded to there by james. whereas maybe by james. whereas william maybe would a bit of a clean would have been a bit of a clean slate monarchy. what do slate for the monarchy. what do you don't disagree with you think? i don't disagree with james. ithink, know, you think? i don't disagree with james. i think, know, over james. i think, you know, over me— james. i think, you know, over mee—been- james. i think, you know, over the—been said- james. i think, you know, over the—been said thatj the years it has been said that they— the years it has been said that they-interfered— the years it has been said that they-interfered in- the years it has been said that they interfered in things they he's interfered in things mm— they he's interfered in things mm me— they he's interfered in things that he shouldn't. i mean, we've meme— that he shouldn't. i mean, we've meem-mese— that he shouldn't. i mean, we've heard-these kind- that he shouldn't. i mean, we've heard-these kind of- heard about these kind of lemm— heard about these kind of leftist _ letters leftist government letters and memes—sem- leftist government letters and things—said, you things and as james said, you knew,— things and as james said, you mem-ms— things and as james said, you mem-ms me— things and as james said, you know,-is the one- things and as james said, you know, is the one thing know, this is the one thing mm,— know, this is the one thing with, .example, - know, this is the one thing with, example, queen, with, for example, the queen, i memm— with, for example, the queen, i think famously— with, for example, the queen, i think famously-i- with, for example, the queen, i think famously i might be think famously and i might be wrong— think famously and i might be meme-m— think famously and i might be meme-m eee-e— think famously and i might be wrong, i don't think she wrong, but i don't think she eee— wrong, but i don't think she ever got involved in any of this mseemeeuy. — ever got involved in any of this historically. it's— ever got involved in any of this historically. it'sjust historically. it's just not a gem— historically. it's just not a good mee.— historically. it's just not a good idea. and- historically. it's just not a good idea. and i think that is sememme— good idea. and i think that is something-know,. good idea. and i think that is something know, that something that, you know, that the something that, you know, that mee-ee— something that, you know, that mee-me sme— something that, you know, that the-to kind of- something that, you know, that the to kind of follow the king has to kind of follow his the king has to kind of follow me memes-s— the king has to kind of follow his mother's example, if his mother's example, because if they— his mother's example, because if they-too— his mother's example, because if they-too political,- his mother's example, because if they too political, then they do get too political, then it they do get too political, then m-mee— they do get too political, theni it-into-dangerous it is going into that dangerous territory-— it is going into that dangerous territory-_is- it is going into that dangerous emery-_is .- it is going into that dangerous territory. is i agree territory. and that is i agree mm— territory. and that is i agree mem-ame— with that. and i think a majority— with that. and i think a mmemey ef— with that. and i think a majority of people would say the mm— majority of people would say the mm m— majority of people would say the same, that it is— majority of people would say the same, that it is important that they—going- same, that it is important that. they—going forward. they stay neutral going forward. and they stay neutral going forward. ame-eee— they stay neutral going forward. ame-eee ee— they stay neutral going forward. ame-eee ee ess— they stay neutral going forward. and-got to ask you, - they stay neutral going forward. and i've got to ask you, though, james, i mean, when we start to get into elected president territory, it opens the territory, i mean, it opens the door the catastrophic door for the catastrophic possibility that we might one day have president blair and i

get that you were get the impression that you were quite war. and quite against the iraq war. and i that would have maybe i think that would have maybe that maybe elevated that maybe would have elevated him even higher status the him to an even higher status the than seriously, is than that i mean, seriously, is there that you would there anyone that you would particularly like to see our particularly like to see as our elected president in lieu of just you know, just just just, you know, setting buckingham just just just, you know, setting as buckingham just just just, you know, setting as we. well, ngham just just just, you know, setting as we. well, obviously, palace as we. well, obviously, you— palace as we. well, obviously, yeu mem,— palace as we. well, obviously, you know,-return- palace as we. well, obviously, you know,-return of- f well, obviously, you know, return of tony you know, the return of tony elm— you know, the return of tony elm-mee— you know, the return of tony blair not something i look blair is not something i look femem— blair is not something i look fememlme— blair is not something i look forward i'd rather have you forward to. i'd rather have you in forward to. i'd rather have you m-m— forward to. i'd rather have you mum-slee- forward to. i'd rather have you in-in-slot there,. in the in the hot slot there, memes.— in the in the hot slot there, patrick. you _ in the in the hot slot there, patrick. you know, such an avid, eme— patrick. you know, such an avid, avid monarchist_ patrick. you know, such an avid, avid monarchist as— patrick. you know, such an avid, avid monarchist as you so you knew,— avid monarchist as you so you knew, ef— avid monarchist as you so you know, of course,— avid monarchist as you so you know, of course, i— avid monarchist as you so you know, of course, i already made the point— know, of course, i already made the point there's— know, of course, i already made the point there's dangers with any— the point there's dangers with my eleeeee— the point there's dangers with any elected regime, right? it's mee— any elected regime, right? it's just me— any elected regime, right? it's just the dangers— any elected regime, right? it's just the dangers are slightly less— just the dangers are slightly less important— just the dangers are slightly less important .— just the dangers are slightly less important . less than an less important. less than an meleeeee— less important. less than an unelected one.— less important. less than an unelected one. we don't know whee— unelected one. we don't know mem mee-ee— unelected one. we don't know what they're doing. that's true, though, because they have mostly ceremonial power, though, don't they?i ceremonial power, though, don't they? i get what you mean. but then the thing is that whether or not they're an elected president it up president might feel look it up on you'll find their on wikipedia, you'll find their power not ceremony. it's much power is not ceremony. it's much bigger mm— power is not ceremony. it's much bigger mm yes— power is not ceremony. it's much bigger than you imagine.- {lilzficq it's much bigger than you imagine. i'm 2.2;”2;“2y it's much bigger than you imagine. i'm no exem— bigger than you imagine. i'm no mem—mem- bigger than you imagine. i'm no expert._what the. expert. i don't know what the 741 expert. i don't know what the 7m eeeme— expert. i don't know what the 7m people em— expert. i don't know what the 741 people on the privy council , mmem— 741 people on the privy council ,wmem meme— 741 people on the privy council , which means private secret

commonwealth— , which means private secret commonwealth judges or bishops. i commonwealth judges or bishops. . eee-e— commonwealth judges or bishops. . eem-e mew— commonwealth judges or bishops. i don't know what— commonwealth judges or bishops. i don't know what they're up to, nor i don't know what they're up to, ee— i don't know what they're up to, me yes. — i don't know what they're up to, me yes. ame— i don't know what they're up to, nor do you. and we— i don't know what they're up to, nor do you. and we can't do much mem— nor do you. and we can't do much mem m.— nor do you. and we can't do much mem me. me— nor do you. and we can't do much about it. it's convened by the kma— about it. it's convened by the kings me— about it. it's convened by the «me, me me— about it. it's convened by the king, and the king has many, mem— king, and the king has many, mem eewes. — king, and the king has many, many eewes m— king, and the king has many, many powers. it would be mmmess— many powers. it would be fruitless to _ many powers. it would be fruitless to imagine that he eeesm-e— fruitless to imagine that he eeesm-e . — fruitless to imagine that he eeesm-e . .._ fruitless to imagine that he doesn't . is there- fruitless to imagine that he doesn't . ”w2.2; fruitless to imagine that he doesn't . 2“ doesn't. is there a is there an argument , doesn't. is there a is there an argument, grant, that king charles is doing the right thing by just following tradition? it's the queen would have it's what the queen would have wanted. and as well. you wanted. and that as well. you know, people are much more know, if people are much more enamoured kate, enamoured with wills and kate, they that that to come, they know that that is to come, don't so they're more don't they? so they're more inclined apart from friend inclined apart from our friend over more inclined over here. they're more inclined to cling on to the to want to cling on to the monarchy because they know even if they like this if they don't like this particular of then particular bit of it, then there's around the there's a good thing around the corner. about 30 years time, corner. in about 30 years time, i've of this , i've always kind of said this, that even if obviously a majority of people don't like the king, there's you the new king, there's no, you know, away from it. and know, getting away from it. and they are the younger royals are eeewm— they are the younger royals are more popular. and i've always sme— more popular. and i've always said—abdicate. more popular. and i've always. said—abdicate. and said that he won't abdicate. and it said that he won't abdicate. and m—m— said that he won't abdicate. and m—m-wmewl it is that thing of, you know, eewewsw— it is that thing of, you know, obviously _was. it is that thing of, you know,- obviously_was popular obviously his mother was popular . mere-s— obviously his mother was popular . there's obviously— obviously his mother was popular . there's obviously himself and mem— . there's obviously himself and mem-ms— . there's obviously himself and mem-ms ms— . there's obviously himself and then-his his son.- . there's obviously himself and then-his his son. i- then his his his his son. i mmw— then his his his his son. i mmw me— then his his his his son. i think the _thing- then his his his his son. i think the thing is and then his his his his son. i- think the _thing is and i'm think the other thing is and i'm not think the other thing is and i'm mee—wim— think the other thing is and i'ml not—with-james not disagreeing with what james is not disagreeing with what james

ms-mmw— not disagreeing with what james ms-mmw going- is saying, i think going memm,— is saying, i think going forward,-have- is saying, i think going forward, have got to be forward, they have got to be emefm— forward, they have got to be. careful _ popularity careful because his popularity mes— careful because his popularity has-definitely— has has definitely declined. mere-s— has has definitely declined. there's—about. there's no question about it. me— there's no question about it. ame-wew— there's no question about it. ame-wee mew,- there's no question about it. and-you know, i- there's no question about it. and you know, i think and i think, you know, i think me— and i think, you know, i think the meme— and i think, you know, i think the thing about— and i think, you know, i think the thing about william and kate is the thing about william and kate ms-wew— the thing about william and kate ms-wew ween— the thing about william and kate ms-wew weem es- the thing about william and kate is very keen as much is they'll be very keen as much as is they'll be very keen as much es mm— is they'll be very keen as much as i'm sure as as— is they'll be very keen as much as i'm sure as as his father, to mele— as i'm sure as as his father, to mem-mm— as i'm sure as as his father, to make .that-doesn't. make sure that that doesn't eemmwe— make sure that that doesn't eemmwe ee— make sure that that doesn't continue to - and l make sure that that doesn't continue to and do continue to decrease and do memes— continue to decrease and do mines-emer— continue to decrease and do things-order to - continue to decrease and do things order to show things in order to show that mew— things in order to show that they em— things in order to show that mew gee— things in order to show that mew eee m— things in order to show that they can get it right. they only get ee— they can get it right. they only get one chance— they can get it right. they only get one chance at— they can get it right. they only get one chance at it. really, mee-s— get one chance at it. really, that's-reality— get one chance at it. really, that's-reality of- get one chance at it. really, that's reality of this. that's the reality of this. okav- — that's the reality of this. okav- au— that's the reality of this. okay. all right.- that's the reality of this. i okay. all right-look, okay. all right. well, look, thank much, both of thank you very much, both of you. actually thoroughly you. i have actually thoroughly enjoyed discussion. grant enjoyed this discussion. grant harold is a former butler enjoyed this discussion. grant haroldnow former butler enjoyed this discussion. grant harold now king er butler enjoyed this discussion. grant haroldnow king charles.3utler enjoyed this discussion. grant haroldnow king charles. and r to the now king charles. and james is a visiting james woodhouse is a visiting professor at south bank professor at london south bank university and i won't ask what both of them are going to have radically different days on coronation day. are they, though, anyway? right. okay. moving on. serious story. though, anyway? right. okay. movinow n. serious story. though, anyway? right. okay. movinow very serious story. though, anyway? right. okay. movinow very seriousus story. this now very serious story, shift man who shift in tone. so a man who sexually abused his daughter now identifies as a woman. but but not clive bundy now not only that, clive bundy now uses the name of a regular gb news contributor for claire fox. seriously arnie. yeah, i'm patrick christys on gb news. and we are britain's news

on gb news. the people's. channel sometimes a channel- sometimes a story emmmel— sometimes a story just confronts you,— sometimes a story just confronts yew, eeesm-e— sometimes a story just confronts yew, eeesm-e me — sometimes a story just confronts you, doesn't it? and— sometimes a story just confronts you, doesn't it? ' “2 e sometimes a story just confronts you, doesn't it? ' “2 you, doesn't it? and it just seems so ridiculous that you assume it can't be real life. but unfortunately , it is a man but unfortunately, it is a man who sexually abused his daughter now identifies as a woman. but not only that. okay. clive bundy now uses the name of a gb news contributor, claire fox . and contributor, claire fox. and there's a huge amount of different issues to this story. there's the legal loophole, frankly, for anyone who goes and commits a horrific incestuous , commits a horrific incestuous, paedophilic crime to be able to change their name and then presumably just fly under the radar so you can employ them to maybe do odd jobs maybe just do some odd jobs around your house. and you wouldn't necessarily know because google their wouldn't necessarily know becausit google their wouldn't necessarily know becausit wouldn't google their wouldn't necessarily know becausit wouldn't comele their wouldn't necessarily know becausit wouldn't comele tthere name, it wouldn't come up there is the fact that as claire is also the fact that as claire fox will go on to tell you in a second, she believes that this chapis second, she believes that this chap is deliberately trying to imitate her name so that it drags through the mud drags her name through the mud and to fact

and also alludes to the fact that she wrongly regarded as and also alludes to the fact that s in wrongly regarded as and also alludes to the fact that s in somemngly regarded as and also alludes to the fact that s in some way regarded as and also alludes to the fact that s in some way kind rded as and also alludes to the fact that s in some way kind ofed as being in some way kind of transphobic, as well. and it makes of the whole makes a mockery of the whole justice doesn't justice system, doesn't it? i was pleased to have caught was very pleased to have caught up claire fox a little bit up with claire fox a little bit earlier on in the show. and here's i here's the conversation that i have with her. so you've got this character, clive bundy, who abused the age abused his daughter from the age of nine for the age of eight for nine years. he eventually got put nine years. he eventually got pm me— nine years. he eventually got em m emsem— nine years. he eventually got em m emsem ,— nine years. he eventually got put in prison ,15_ “ £22“; he eventually got put in prison , 15 years “ «ew2;m2”; he eventually got put in prison , 15 years sentence put in prison, 15 years sentence in put in prison, 15 years sentence m sowe— put in prison, 15 years sentence m some me— put in prison, 15 years sentence in 2016 and is— put in prison, 15 years sentence in 2016 and is due— put in prison, 15 years sentence in 2016 and is due to be let out on in 2016 and is due to be let out em parole— in 2016 and is due to be let out em parole me— in 2016 and is due to be let out on parole and only— in 2016 and is due to be let out on parole and only after serving seven years, two _ on parole and only after serving seven years, two years ago deemed— seven years, two years ago eeemee ee — seven years, two years ago decided to transition or, you knew,— decided to transition or, you knew, mee— decided to transition or, you know, had gender dysphoria . and know, had gender dysphoria. and of know, had gender dysphoria. and em me — know, had gender dysphoria. and of course, the prison went out of course, the prison went out em mew— of course, the prison went out em mew wew— of course, the prison went out of their way to _ of course, the prison went out of their way to supply him. and i of their way to supply him. and w swess— of their way to supply him. and w swess mm — of their way to supply him. and w swess mm ,— of their way to supply him. and i stress him , clive,— of their way to supply him. and i stress him , clive, with makeup i stress him, clive, with makeup me— i stress him, clive, with makeup me e— i stress him, clive, with makeup me e mess— i stress him, clive, with makeup and a dress and— i stress him, clive, with makeup and a dress and so— i stress him, clive, with makeup and a dress and so on. and the meme— and a dress and so on. and the mme mee-s— and a dress and so on. and the thing that's really— and a dress and so on. and the thing that's really horrible mem— thing that's really horrible mem eu— thing that's really horrible about all this— thing that's really horrible about all this is that his mesmer— about all this is that his eewgmee ,— about all this is that his daughter , kerry lee gavin, would daughter, kerry lee gavin, would not daughter, kerry lee gavin, would mee sewe— daughter, kerry lee gavin, would not have known— daughter, kerry lee gavin, would not have known any of this and mee— not have known any of this and mm mee— not have known any of this and me met me— not have known any of this and had not the victim— not have known any of this and had not the victim liaison emmeee— had not the victim liaison

officer told— had not the victim liaison officer told her- had not the victim liaison officer told her eventually . um, officer told her eventually. um, but officer told her eventually. um, em eme— officer told her eventually. um, but clive bundy_ officer told her eventually. um, but clive bundy is— officer told her eventually. um, but clive bundy is about to get out but clive bundy is about to get em ef— but clive bundy is about to get em em emsem— but clive bundy is about to get out of prison, live— but clive bundy is about to get out of prison, live under the ef— out of prison, live under the name of claire— out of prison, live under the name of claire fox , his own name of claire fox, his own eewemew— name of claire fox, his own daughter, who— name of claire fox, his own daughter, who he abused , and daughter, who he abused, and mewme— daughter, who he abused, and mewme else— daughter, who he abused, and anyone else would therefore have not anyone else would therefore have met knew— anyone else would therefore have met mew mm— anyone else would therefore have not know that clive— anyone else would therefore have not know that clive bundy was out not know that clive bundy was em me— not know that clive bundy was out and about.— not know that clive bundy was out and about. but um, for people— out and about. but um, for people whe— out and about. but um, for people who are— out and about. but um, for people who are not related or eeme— people who are not related or eeme mew— people who are not related or don't know this— people who are not related or don't know this story, which is why— don't know this story, which is why we— don't know this story, which is why we seee— don't know this story, which is why we need to— don't know this story, which is why we need to tell this story. we — why we need to tell this story. we meme— why we need to tell this story. we mme ms— why we need to tell this story. the thing is, is— why we need to tell this story. the thing is, is that now on his driving— the thing is, is that now on his driving licence— the thing is, is that now on his driving licence and on his birth eemmeme,— driving licence and on his birth certificate, it— driving licence and on his birth certificate, it will— driving licence and on his birth certificate, it will say claire mew— certificate, it will say claire mee me— certificate, it will say claire fox and obviously this is a tese,— fox and obviously this is a tese, em— fox and obviously this is a tee, em ms— fox and obviously this is a joke, but it's an- fox and obviously this is a joke, but it's an attempt at eresme— joke, but it's an attempt at eeesmg me— joke, but it's an attempt at erasing and disguising his crimes , disguising his heinous crimes, disguising his heinous es me— crimes, disguising his heinous crimes as and the ministry of msmee— crimes as and the ministry of msmee sew,— crimes as and the ministry of msmee sew, em— crimes as and the ministry of justice say, oh yeah, well what we eee— justice say, oh yeah, well what can we do? you— justice say, oh yeah, well what can we do? you know, we can't misgender— can we do? you know, we can't misgender — can we do? you know, we can't misgender wew— can we do? you know, we can't misgender or, you know, go memm— misgender or, you know, go against me— misgender or, you know, go against the wishes of this transgender— against the wishes of this transgender woman as we're now sweeesee— transgender woman as we're now sweeesee te— transgender woman as we're now supposed to behave . so what a supposed to behave. so what a hemme— supposed to behave. so what a horrible situation— supposed to behave. so what a horrible situation . the home horrible situation. the home omee— horrible situation. the home omee wim— horrible situation. the home office will now— horrible situation. the home office will now use this name ,

office will now use this name, meme— office will now use this name, meme se— office will now use this name, right? so you've— office will now use this name, right? so you've got a number of different— right? so you've got a number of different things— right? so you've got a number of different things happening here. if different things happening here. m wew— different things happening here. m you wemee— different things happening here. if you wanted to— different things happening here. if you wanted to do a, you know, a if you wanted to do a, you know, e meek— if you wanted to do a, you know, e meek em — if you wanted to do a, you know, a check on this— if you wanted to do a, you know, a check on this person, a police meek,— a check on this person, a police emeew um— a check on this person, a police emeew wew— a check on this person, a police check, um, you would have to meek— check, um, you would have to meek unda— check, um, you would have to check under claire— check, um, you would have to check under claire fox . and you check under claire fox. and you mem— check under claire fox. and you might be— check under claire fox. and you might be e— check under claire fox. and you might be e em— check under claire fox. and you might be a bit surprised to find mm— might be a bit surprised to find mm ame— might be a bit surprised to find that claire fox— might be a bit surprised to find that claire fox either hasn't got— that claire fox either hasn't got e— that claire fox either hasn't got e eeem — that claire fox either hasn't got a record or— that claire fox either hasn't got a record or that actually eeme— got a record or that actually eeme mee— got a record or that actually claire fox is— got a record or that actually claire fox is a— got a record or that actually claire fox is a peer in the meme— claire fox is a peer in the wewse ef— claire fox is a peer in the house of lords,- claire fox is a peer in the house of lords, right? it might be. me— house of lords, right? it might be. me em— house of lords, right? it might be. and but whatever. and so ms— be. and but whatever. and so it's obviously— be. and but whatever. and so it's obviously completely eemwsme— it's obviously completely confusing the— it's obviously completely confusing the whole situation me— confusing the whole situation me em— confusing the whole situation and but obviously well, it what it and but obviously well, it what m wen-t— and but obviously well, it what m wem-t shew— and but obviously well, it what it won't show is— and but obviously well, it what it won't show is that this eesem— it won't show is that this eesem is— it won't show is that this eesem is e. — it won't show is that this person is a. you know, an meeswews— person is a. you know, an incestuous who- person is a. you know, an incestuous who abused his own eewemee— incestuous who abused his own eewemee .— incestuous who abused his own eewgmee. ms— incestuous who abused his own daughter. it's just— incestuous who abused his own daughter . it's just absolutely daughter. it's just absolutely seekers— daughter. it's just absolutely bonkers, isn't— daughter. it's just absolutely bonkers, isn't it? thank you very— bonkers, isn't it? thank you very much, claire. thanks for coming on and talking about that. but yeah, an absolutely ludicrous story. but just the prime example of what's going to happen more and and more happen more and more and more people using legal loopholes to change identity and so change their identity and so they fly under the radar and they can fly under the radar and yes. right. there a very yes. all right. there is a very , very, very slightly kind of humorous undercurrent of this in the that imitating the sense that he's imitating claire fox. and claire

acknowledged that herself. but the now that there will acknowledged that herself. but the people now that there will acknowledged that herself. but the people outi that there will acknowledged that herself. but the people out there there will acknowledged that herself. but the people out there whoa will acknowledged that herself. but the people out there who youl be people out there who you could employ as a painter or a decorator or someone to just come odd jobs around your come and do odd jobs around your house honest, you house and let's be honest, you would absolutely of would have absolutely no way of knowing are because knowing who they are because they've changed their name and changed their gender. and you might house or might have kids in the house or something that, it's something like that, and it's absolutely michelle absolutely shocking. michelle dewberry though. absolutely shocking. michelle dew does. though. absolutely shocking. michelle dew does. yes, though. absolutely shocking. michelle dew does. yes, she though. absolutely shocking. michelle dew does. yes, she does. though. absolutely shocking. michelle dew does. yes, she does. andjh. absolutely shocking. michelle dew does. yes, she does. and you she does. yes, she does. and you will be lighting up our tv screens for the next hour. are you you just looking for a you are you just looking for a copy of the daily star? was, copy of the daily star? i was, yes. just educating yes. i was just educating mwsem. — yes. i was just educating mwsem mm— «2; i was just educating myself. i'm learning some new ewe-ees— myself. i'm learning some new wews-knew,— myself. i'm learning some new words.-know,-the. words. you know, it goes the meme— words. you know, it goes the mme mm— words. you know, it goes the thing that caught my eye, memm— thing that caught my eye, memm-w— thing that caught my eye, though,.| was- thing that caught my eye, though, i was listening though, is i was just listening to_thinkinge- though, is i was just listening to _thinking, this. to claire then thinking, this weme— to claire then thinking, this wews-mee,- to claire then thinking, this world mad, isn't it? world is going mad, isn't it? me— world is going mad, isn't it? andlwas_ world is going mad, isn't it? and was thinking, thank and i was thinking, thank eeemess—eel and i was thinking, thank. goodness—co your goodness for dewbs& co your demy— goodness for dewbs& co your new dese— goodness for dewbs& co your emw eese ef— goodness for dewbs& co your daily dose of sanity. then daily dose of sanity. and then i eewem— daily dose of sanity. and then i eewem-mms — daily dose of sanity. and then i eewem-mms - daily dose of sanity. and then i eewem-mms w- daily dose of sanity. and then i caught-this. i don't. caught sight of this. i don't knew— caught sight of this. i don't knew m— caught sight of this. i don't knew if wew— caught sight of this. i don't know if you can— caught sight of this. i don't know if you can see it. you probably can't, actually. but it says, first we caught- probably can't, actually. but it says, first we caught an- 22“ e 2 but it says, first we caught an elf and mew—eeemm - now we've got a goblin. apparently— now we've got a goblin. apparently the founder goblin in wewee. — apparently the founder goblin in mexico. i honestly, _ apparently the founder goblin in mexico. honestly, i do think mexico. so honestly, i do think the mexico. so honestly, i do think me weme-s— mexico. so honestly, i do think the world's gone.— mexico. so honestly, i do think the world's gone. absolutely mexico. so honestly, i do think the w0i�*vw�*2; eeione. absolutely mexico. so honestly, i do think the w0i�*vw�*2; ll absolutely mexico. so honestly, i do think the w0i�*vw�*2; ll ebsolutely mexico. so honestly, i do think the woi 3:22; ll e 2eelutely mexico. so honestly, i do think the w0i�*vw�*2; ll e 1 mad. we'll sort it all out, though, in the next hour. fantastic. oh, good stuff. all right. yourself locked and

right. keep yourself locked and loaded christys. loaded in ipp. patrick christys. and you next take and i'll see you next week. take it people. again. it easy, people. hello again. welcome latest gb news welcome to the latest gb news weather from the met weather forecast from the met office. warmer weekend for many weather forecast from the met office.sunny er weekend for many weather forecast from the met office.sunny spells, end for many weather forecast from the met office.sunny spells, but for many weather forecast from the met office.sunny spells, but also nany weather forecast from the met office heavy' spells, but also nany weather forecast from the met office heavy showersbut also nany weather forecast from the met office heavy showers developing y some heavy showers developing each . those showers will be each day. those showers will be hit and miss and affect different parts of the uk on different parts of the uk on different but we've got different days. but we've got low pressure moving away for the time being. that's left a legacy of time being. that's left a legacy em elewew— time being. that's left a legacy of cloudy skies— time being. that's left a legacy of cloudy skies for— e 2 that's left a legacy of cloudy skies for friday e “2 that's left a legacy of cloudy skies for friday and me— of cloudy skies for friday and me mem— of cloudy skies for friday and into friday evening. 22 into friday evening. the cloud eemes— into friday evening. the cloud tends ee— into friday evening. the cloud tends to thicken. if anything, it will lower, it will cover the hills in places. there'll be some mist around western coasts as well. and some outbreaks of rain the grampian and rain affecting the grampian and the with snow over the highlands with snow over the hills stay cold hills. it's going to stay cold in far north of scotland. in the far north of scotland. but elsewhere, a milder night to come. whether got the come. and whether you've got the clear the cloud, it's clear skies or the cloud, it's going to be around 8 to 10 celsius. first thing, then on saturday morning, a fairly dreary start to the day, actually. a lot of low cloud, some mistiness around western coasts, but inland , as coasts, but inland, as temperatures rise, the cloud will lift , it will brighten temperatures rise, the cloud will lift, it will brighten up. there'll be some sunshine coming

through, however, as temperatures rise , especially temperatures rise, especially for northern ireland, parts of wales, the west midlands, there could be slow moving could be some slow moving showers, thunderstorms and showers, some thunderstorms and some watch out for some hail. so watch out for those saturday afternoon those during saturday afternoon away from those areas. actually scotland and northern england stay cold and generally grey, but mostly dry. and towards the south—east, we'll see some warm sunshine . but into saturday sunshine. but into saturday night, most places turn cloudy once again and as the cloud thickens up from the west, bringing with it mist and murk , bringing with it mist and murk, we'll also see outbreaks of rain on and off. rain, yes, but nevertheless, a fairly wet start to sunday across western parts of the uk, especially western scotland, where it's going to be persistent first thing. and as that rain moves north eastwards , it's going to stay damp across the north of scotland through much of the afternoon. elsewhere, the rain breaking up into showers and there'll be some moving downpours once some slow moving downpours once again, northern and again, especially northern and western wales and western england, wales and northern monday's northern ireland. monday's showers mainly affect the southeast . it's going be warm southeast. it's going to be warm

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