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michelle— well hello there. it's 6:00. i'm michelle dewberry— well hello there. it's 6:00. i'm michelle dewberry and- w222 ”w22; it's 6:00. i'm michelle dewberry and this w222 n22; it's 6:00. i'm michelle dewberry and this is new— michelle dewberry and this is dewbs &— michelle dewberry and this is dewbs & co.— michelle dewberry and this is dewbs & co. coming up tonight, dewbs& co. coming up tonight, it's dewbs& co. coming up tonight, n-s au— dewbs& co. coming up tonight, n-s all going— dewbs& co. coming up tonight, it's all going on,— dewbs& co. coming up tonight, it's all going on, isn't it.7 you-ve— it's all going on, isn't it.7 you've still— it's all going on, isn't it.7 you've still got- it's all going on, isn't it.7 you've still got strikes . you've you've still got strikes. you've got— you've still got strikes. you've got ome— you've still got strikes. you've got people— you've still got strikes. you've got some people accepting pay deals— got some people accepting pay deals ,— got some people accepting pay deals , seme— got some people accepting pay deals , some people pushing for deals, some people pushing for more. you've got— deals, some people pushing for more. you've got one of the chief— more. you've got one of the chief economist— more. you've got one of the chief economist at the bank of england— chief economist at the bank of england basically england telling us basically we-vee-t— england telling us basically we-vee-e gee- england telling us basically we've to get used to we've all got to get used to being—poorer. i we've all got to get used to being—poorer. so| being a little bit poorer. so rm— being a little bit poorer. so rm-yeu— being a little bit poorer. so i'm-you tonight- being a little bit poorer. so i'm you tonight a simple i'm asking you tonight a simple question.— i'm asking you tonight a simple question-think- i'm asking you tonight a simple question. think it's question. do you think it's reasonable— question. do you think it's reasonable people to expect reasonable for people to expect tnttatton — reasonable for people to expect inflation matching pay rises? vee— inflation matching pay rises? yes or— inflation matching pay rises? yes or no— inflation matching pay rises? yes or no n— inflation matching pay rises? yes or no ? and— inflation matching pay rises? yes or no ? and we'll all yes or no? and we'll all remember the- yes or no? and we'll all remember the scheme that was set up remember the scheme that was set an to— remember the scheme that was set an tor the— remember the scheme that was set up for the ukrainian— remember the scheme that was set up for the ukrainian refugees ven— up for the ukrainian refugees very ontotto— up for the ukrainian refugees very quickly, very effectively in very quickly, very effectively tn tote— very quickly, very effectively tn tote ot— very quickly, very effectively in lots of places.— very quickly, very effectively in lots of places. and pondering tontant— in lots of places. and pondering tontgnt ,— in lots of places. and pondering tontgnt , to— in lots of places. and pondering tontgnt , to we— in lots of places. and pondering tonight, do we need similar eoennen— tonight, do we need similar eonete tot— tonight, do we need similar scheme for the— tonight, do we need similar scheme for the situation in satan— scheme for the situation in satat ,— scheme for the situation in satat , yes— scheme for the situation in satat , yes or— scheme for the situation in sudan , yes or no? and you've sudan, yes or no? and you've tast— sudan, yes or no? and you've just teet— sudan, yes or no? and you've just been seeing— sudan, yes or no? and you've just been seeing their promo for the coronation— just been seeing their promo for the coronation on— just been seeing their promo for the coronation on many people toottng— the coronation on many people looking forward— the coronation on many people looking forward to— the coronation on many people looking forward to it. many otter— looking forward to it. many ottet peopte— looking forward to it. many other people are saying what a waste— other people are saying what a waste ot— other people are saying what a waste of money.— other people are saying what a waste of money. we don't need the waste of money. we don't need tte toyate. — waste of money. we don't need the royals. what— waste of money. we don't need the royals. what we need in this country— the royals. what we need in this country to— the royals. what we need in this country to at— the royals. what we need in this country is an elected head of state.— country is an elected head of state. goodness— country is an elected head of state. goodness me . what says state. goodness me. what says yout— state. goodness me. what says you? to— state. goodness me. what says you? to ttat— state. goodness me. what says you? is that the— state. goodness me. what says you? is that the way forward for ttte— you? is that the way forward for ttte country— you? is that the way forward for ttte country or— you? is that the way forward for this country or long live the notatotyt— this country or long live the monarchy? and— this country or long live the monarchy? and i— this country or long live the monarchy? and i read an awful ston— monarchy? and i read an awful story totay— monarchy? and i read an awful story today about— monarchy? and i read an awful story today about a veteran that

stated— story today about a veteran that ettet tts— story today about a veteran that ended his own— story today about a veteran that ended his own life— story today about a veteran that ended his own life because he tott— ended his own life because he tett te— ended his own life because he tett to was— ended his own life because he felt he was passed from pillar to post— felt he was passed from pillar to post ant— felt he was passed from pillar to post and couldn't get enough tott— to post and couldn't get enough tote-menta— to post and couldn't get enough help mental health. so help with his mental health. so i'll help with his mental health. so t-tt ttnattw— help with his mental health. so i'll finally leave— help with his mental health. so i'll finally leave you with a state— i'll finally leave you with a simple question. do we fail our weeranst tn— simple question. do we fail our veterans in this— simple question. do we fail our veterans in this country ? we're veterans in this country? we're going— veterans in this country? we're gong to— veterans in this country? we're gong to get— veterans in this country? we're gotng to get tnto— veterans in this country? we're going to get into all of that. out— going to get into all of that. tat tenors— going to get into all of that. but before we— going to get into all of that. but before we do, let's bring oaswretes an— but before we do, let's bring ourselves up to— but before we do, let's bring ourselves up to speed with tontgtt-s— ourselves up to speed with tonight's latest— ourselves up to speed with tonight's latest headlines . tonight's latest headlines. ttants— tonight's latest headlines. thanks, michelle.- tonight's latest headlines. thanks, michelle. i'm- tonight's latest headlines. thanks, michelle. i'm ray addison in the gb news newsroom. and our top story tonight, richard sharp has resigned as chairman of the bbc after a report found that he breached the rules for public appointments. the review says he failed to properly disclose his involvement in facilitating an £800,000 loan guarantee for bods £800,000 loan guarantee for boris johnson. mr sharp says the breach was inadvertent , but boris johnson. mr sharp says the breach was inadvertent, but he's quitting to prioritise the interests of the broadcaster . interests of the broadcaster. the liberal democrats leader sir ed davey says the appointment process needs to be changed. i prefer an independent process

ant— prefer an independent process ant ._ prefer an independent process and i absolutely— prefer an independent process and i absolutely believe there stoatt— and i absolutely believe there stoatt te— and i absolutely believe there stoatt to a— and i absolutely believe there should be a hearing to check the aggotntnent— should be a hearing to check the apgotntnent tw— should be a hearing to check the appointment by the cross—party seteot— appointment by the cross—party select committee— appointment by the cross—party select committee in the house of connnons— select committee in the house of connnons tor— select committee in the house of commons for culture , media and commons for culture, media and sport.— commons for culture, media and sport. ttat-s— commons for culture, media and sport. that's the— commons for culture, media and sport. that's the only way to torwart— sport. that's the only way to torwart so— sport. that's the only way to forward so people can have confidence— forward so people can have confidence ._ forward so people can have confidence . it's— forward so people can have confidence . it's just allowing confidence. it's just allowing it confidence. it's just allowing t to— confidence. it's just allowing t to te— confidence. it's just allowing t to to no— confidence. it's just allowing it to be the prime minister say. so it to be the prime minister say. so tast— it to be the prime minister say. so just wont— it to be the prime minister say. so just won't work— it to be the prime minister say. so just won't work anymore . so just won't work anymore. wett— so just won't work anymore. wett. ttstt — so just won't work anymore. well, rishi sunak_ so just won't work anymore. well, rishi sunak does- so just won't work anymore. well, rishi sunak does not agree. he says the right process was followed. this is about doing things properly and professionally and when concerns are raised , it's right that are raised, it's right that there is a proper process, an independent process that we don't prejudge. we allow it to earn— don't prejudge. we allow it to carry on— don't prejudge. we allow it to can on ant— don't prejudge. we allow it to carry on and establish- t:t2t“ c 33 we allow it to carry on and establish the facts of carry on and establish the facts ot wtat— carry on and establish the facts of what happened, reach a conclusion— of what happened, reach a conclusion that's happened . conclusion that's happened. ttotart— conclusion that's happened. richard sharp— conclusion that's happened. richard sharp has resigned, but it's richard sharp has resigned, but tt-s rtgtt— richard sharp has resigned, but tt-s ngtt ttat— richard sharp has resigned, but it's right that we— richard sharp has resigned, but it's right that we do these tttngs— it's right that we do these things properly and professionally. think most professionally. i think most peopte— professionally. i think most peonte-ttat- professionally. i think most people that that's professionally. i think most peo right that that's professionally. i think most peo right thing that that's professionally. i think most peo right thing to that that's professionally. i think most peo right thing to do t that's professionally. i think most peo right thing to do . 1at's professionally. i think most peo right thing to do . tt.t2; the right thing to do. police tnwesttgattng— the right thing to do. police investigating the murder of a pregnant teacher in scotland have confirmed that they found the of her missing partner, the body of her missing partner, officer had been looking for 36 year old david yates in

connection with the death of morrell. sturrock at a home in glasgow on tuesday . she was 29 glasgow on tuesday. she was 29 weeks pregnant and her unborn baby did not survive. mr yates remains were found after searches of mugdock reservoir, which is located north of glasgow. his death is not being treated as suspicious . unions treated as suspicious. unions representing teachers and headteachers in england say they plan to take co—ordinated strike action in the autumn after accusing the government of wanting education on the cheap. the general secretaries of four education unions have announced that they will work together in their long running dispute over pay their long running dispute over pay after they rejected the government's offer of a one off payment of £1,000 and an average pay payment of £1,000 and an average pay rise of 4.5% next year. the national association of head teachers says the decision sends a clear signal to the government that the dispute is not going away . well, members of the gmb away. well, members of the gmb union have accepted the government's pay offer to health workers of a 5% pay rise and a

one off cash sum . gmb officials one off cash sum. gmb officials say they will now vote to accept the offer at a meeting next week of the nhs staff council. health secretary steve barclay says the deal recognise raises the outstanding job that nhs staff do whilst protects the government's commitment to halve inflation in sudan. the ceasefire between the paramilitary rapid support forces and the army has been extended for a further three days. the foreign secretary is calling on the two sides to fully implement the truce and says evacuation flights are ongoing. so far, british forces have rescued almost 900 people. the government is urging those with british passports and visas to make their way to the airfield as quickly as possible . all what we have seen over the past 24 hours or so is a significant decline in the british nationals coming forward . now, that's what you would expect. — . now, that's what you would expect. tt-s— . now, that's what you would expect. it's what's— now, that's what you would

expect. it's what's happened wttt— expect. it's what's happened wttt otter— expect. it's what's happened with other countries. so what we are with other countries. so what we sawtng— with other countries. so what we sawtng now— with other countries. so what we are saying now is— with other countries. so what we are saying now is that people stoatt— are saying now is that people should expect— are saying now is that people should expect that within the next— should expect that within the next za— should expect that within the next 24 hours.— should expect that within the next 24 hours. so by 6:00 uk ttne— next 24 hours. so by 6:00 uk time tomorrow— next 24 hours. so by 6:00 uk time tomorrow for— next 24 hours. so by 6:00 uk time tomorrow for us to cease ttose— time tomorrow for us to cease ttose tttgtts— time tomorrow for us to cease those flights . _ time tomorrow for us to cease those flights . tear 57” those flights. deputy prime minister there, oliver dowden , minister there, oliver dowden, now florida governor ron desantis has met with foreign secretary james cleverly in london. the uk visit is the last leg of the republicans international tour aimed at enhancing his foreign policy credentials . batus yesterday he credentials. batus yesterday he was in israel. it's expected that mr desantis will run for the republican nomination in the 2024 presidential election . at 2024 presidential election. at least 17 people have been killed as russian airstrikes hit key cities across ukraine . on well, cities across ukraine. on well, two children are among those killed and nine people have been taken to hospital. the attacks

come as ukraine is set to launch an offensive with new military equipment supplied by western allies. it follows a winter offensive where moscow has made little headway . the government little headway. the government says the uk is being vigilant in the north sea after alleged russian spy ships were seen operating near offshore energy infrastructure. baroness goldie says the activities of russian vessels are being watched closely . earlier this month, a closely. earlier this month, a joint investigation by european broadcasters claimed that a russian citizen was part of an operation to map under sea infrastructure. the report found that the ship was sailing around the baltic and north seas for a month, passing wind farms off the coast of several scandinavian countries . scandinavian countries. hollywood actress eva green has won $1 million lawsuit over the collapse of a sci fi film. and a warning for those watching on television. the following footage does contain flashing images . as the star sued white

images. as the star sued white lantern films, the company behind a patriot after the project collapsed in 2019. she was due to play a lead role in that movie. the 42 year old says she's entitled to £810,000 after the company said that ms green undermined the independent film's production . and the film's production. and the prince and princess of wales have paid an emotional visit to a welsh village to remember the victims of the 1966 aberfan disaster . after 116 children and disaster. after 116 children and 28 adults were killed after a colliery spoil tip collapsed onto a school and neighbouring homes. william and kate visited the aberfan memorial garden to pay the aberfan memorial garden to pay their respects. it's the first time that the royal couple has been to the village . on tv, has been to the village. on tv, onune has been to the village. on tv, online on dab+ radio and on. tune in to this is gb news. back now to .

now to. michelle thanks for that. well, i'm wtotette— thanks for that. well, i'm michelle dewberry- well, i'm michelle dewberry and i'm teegtng— michelle dewberry and i'm teegtng won— michelle dewberry and i'm keeping you company right ttroagt— keeping you company right through till— keeping you company right through till 7:00 this evening atongstte— through till 7:00 this evening atongstte ne— through till 7:00 this evening alongside me, i've got charlotte ttottes— alongside me, i've got charlotte pickles,-director_ alongside me, i've got charlotte pickles, director reform pickles, the director of reform tttnt— pickles, the director of reform tttnt-taat- pickles, the director of reform think paul mbappe, think tank, and paul mbappe, ttrenan— think tank, and paul mbappe, fireman, unionist and fireman, trade unionist and aatton— fireman, trade unionist and author. hello.— fireman, trade unionist and author. hello. welcome back , author. hello. welcome back, eveonerv ant— author. hello. welcome back, everyone. and you know the ant. — everyone. and you know the ant. non-t— everyone. and you know the drill. don't you?— everyone. and you know the drill. don't you? on dewbs& co. tt-s— drill. don't you? on dewbs& co. tt-s not— drill. don't you? on dewbs& co. tt-s not tast— drill. don't you? on dewbs& co. it's not just about— drill. don't you? on dewbs& co. it's not just about us three. tt-s— it's not just about us three. tt-s verv— it's not just about us three. tt-s verv nast— it's not just about us three. it's very much about you at home as-wtat-s— it's very much about you at home as-wtat-s on— it's very much about you at home as -what's on -mind - as well. what's on your mind tontgttt— as well. what's on your mind tontgttt-get- as well. what's on your mind tonight?-get in- as well. what's on your mind tonight? get in touch tonight? you can get in touch wttt— tonight? you can get in touch wttt-tte— tonight? you can get in touch with-the usual- tonight? you can get in touch with the usual ways. gb with me. all the usual ways. gb vtews— with me. all the usual ways. gb vtews ot— with me. all the usual ways. gb views gb news.— with me. all the usual ways. gb views gb news. .uk is the email or vow— views gb news. .uk is the email or you can tweet— views gb news. .uk is the email or you can tweet me— views gb news. .uk is the email or you can tweet me at gb news tetng— or you can tweet me at gb news tetng tn— or you can tweet me at gb news cons being in touch— or you can tweet me at gb news cons being in touch and said, ttttette— cons being in touch and said, michelle, haven't— cons being in touch and said, michelle, haven't you got anvtttng— michelle, haven't you got anything positive to talk about tontgttt— anything positive to talk about tontgttt anv— anything positive to talk about tonight? any positive stories tontgtt— tonight? any positive stories tontgtt-wo- tonight? any positive stories tontgtt-wo .- tonight? any positive stories tonight- no i do.- tonight? any positive stories tonight no i do. no. any tonight? right. no i do. no. any ttts— tonight? right. no i do. no. any ttts ts— tonight? right. no i do. no. any this is something— tonight? right. no i do. no. any this is something this is a conversation— this is something this is a conversation that i have all the ttne— conversation that i have all the ttne .— conversation that i have all the ttne . ant— conversation that i have all the ttne . no two— conversation that i have all the time . and i've often had it with time. and i've often had it with you,— time. and i've often had it with your to— time. and i've often had it with you, the viewers,— time. and i've often had it with you, the viewers, because the tt— you, the viewers, because the tt an— you, the viewers, because the tt te— you, the viewers, because the news, it can be very often doom ant— news, it can be very often doom ant gtoon — news, it can be very often doom ant gtoon ant— news, it can be very often doom and gloom and i— news, it can be very often doom and gloom and i seek high and tow.— and gloom and i seek high and tow. .— and gloom and i seek high and tow. . to.—

and gloom and i seek high and tow. . to. to— and gloom and i seek high and low. i do. to look— and gloom and i seek high and low. i do. to look for positive, agtttttng— low. i do. to look for positive, uplifting stories.— low. i do. to look for positive, uplifting stories. and they are verv— uplifting stories. and they are very tow— uplifting stories. and they are very new ant— uplifting stories. and they are very few and far— uplifting stories. and they are very few and far between. so, conv— very few and far between. so, con tt— very few and far between. so, con tt vow— very few and far between. so, con, if you know— very few and far between. so, con, if you know something that i con, if you know something that . ton-t— con, if you know something that . ton-t ant— con, if you know something that i don't and there— con, if you know something that i don't and there is— con, if you know something that i don't and there is a monumental, positive, happy stow— monumental, positive, happy storv ttat— monumental, positive, happy storv ttat t-ve— monumental, positive, happy story that i've overlooked tontgtt— story that i've overlooked tontgttlget- story that i've overlooked tonight,.get in- story that i've overlooked tonight, get in touch and tonight, do get in touch and tott— tonight, do get in touch and tett—to- tonight, do get in touch and tell—to know- tonight, do get in touch and tell—to know of. tonight, do get in touch and. tell—to know of any tonight, do get in touch and- tell_to know of any my tell me do due to know of any my toottatt— tell me do due to know of any my toottatt tean — tell me do due to know of any my football team wolves are on the up football team wolves are on the ago—reatt- football team wolves are on thel an—reattv wett up. they're playing really well at moment. i suspect most at the moment. i suspect most viewers and listeners not viewers and listeners are not going much interested in going to be much interested in that, it's big for me. that, but it's big for me. michelle you just said your football team, wolves, didn't you? ithought football team, wolves, didn't you? i thought for a brief sot— you? i thought for a brief second-said,- you? i thought for a brief second-said, my- you? i thought for a brief- second-said, mylwolves you? i thought for a brief- sectoff.-said, my .wolves you? i thought for a brief- sectoff. ilsaid, my .wolves 7 i thought for a brief sectoff. i wasaid, my wolves 7 i thought for a brief sectoff. i was thinking, wolves 7 i thought for a brief sectoff. i was thinking, who les 7 i thought for a brief sectoff. i was thinking, who is; are off. i was thinking, who is ttts— are off. i was thinking, who is ttts-wtv— are off. i was thinking, who is ttts-wtv tas— are off. i was thinking, who is this-why has he- are off. i was thinking, who is this why has he 14 this guy? why has he got 14 wotvest— this guy? why has he got 14 wolves? what's— this guy? why has he got 14 wolves? what's going on? yeah. wtat— wolves? what's going on? yeah. wtat atoat— wolves? what's going on? yeah. wtat atoat vow— wolves? what's going on? yeah. what about you ?_ wolves? what's going on? yeah. what about you ? anything what about you? anything nostttve— what about you? anything positive-ask- what about you? anything positive ask me what about you? anything- positive-ask me this, positive you often ask me this, ant— positive you often ask me this, ant .— positive you often ask me this, ant . tast. — positive you often ask me this, ant t tast- .— positive you often ask me this, and i just. i can't.- positive you often ask me this, and i just. i can't. i- positive you often ask me this, and i just. ev?“ c ev?“ c and ijust. i can't. i can't think of things on the spot. although controversial take although some controversial take maybe might think the coronation and the. and the street parties and. oh, yeah , celebrations is a and. oh, yeah, celebrations is a positive thing. yes there you go. and positive thing. yes there you go. no tn— positive thing. yes there you go. no tn gong— positive thing. yes there you go. and i'm going to- c g “25 there you go. and i'm going to come to ttat.— go. and i'm going to come to ttat. ves— go. and i'm going to come to that. yes some— go. and i'm going to come to that. yes some some. this is a gaestton— that. yes some some. this is a gaestton tor— that. yes some some. this is a gaestton tor a— that. yes some some. this is a question for a bit— that. yes some some. this is a question for a bit later on in ne— question for a bit later on in the programme.— question for a bit later on in the programme. are you into the nonarotvt— the programme. are you into the monarchy? will— the programme. are you into the monarchy? will you be celebrating— monarchy? will you be celebrating the coronation or are celebrating the coronation or vow— celebrating the coronation or won on no— celebrating the coronation or are you on the other side of the

tono — are you on the other side of the tono -savtng- are you on the other side of the fence, - saying it's - fence, perhaps saying it's all a wasto— fence, perhaps saying it's all a wasto ot— fence, perhaps saying it's all a waste of money?— fence, perhaps saying it's all a waste of money? give us an otootot— waste of money? give us an elected head— waste of money? give us an elected head state. your elected head of state. your ttoagtts— elected head of state. yourj ttoagtts—to elected head of state. your- thoughts _to that thoughts will be coming to that a ttttto— thoughts will be coming to that a ttttto ttt— thoughts will be coming to that a little bit later— thoughts will be coming to that a little bit later in— thoughts will be coming to that a little bit later in the programme.- a little bit later in the programme. i've got positive —wowsi programme. i've got positive. news. _news again programme. i've got positive- news._news again in news. we beat sky news again in the news. we beat sky news again in tto ratings— news. we beat sky news again in the ratings last— news. we beat sky news again in the ratings last night, thank the ratings last night, so thank you the ratings last night, so thank vow-ot— the ratings last night, so thank vow-on vow— the ratings last night, so thank vow-on vow gays- the ratings last night, so thank you of you guys that do you to all of you guys that do toot— you to all of you guys that do toot as— you to all of you guys that do toot us company— you to all of you guys that do keep us company at 6:00 on dewbs & keep us company at 6:00 on dewbs o-ntoo— keep us company at 6:00 on dewbs o-ntoo ant— keep us company at 6:00 on dewbs &-nice and positive.- & co. that's nice and positive. i & co. that's nice and positive. . atwavs— & co. that's nice and positive. t atwavs tttnt— & co. that's nice and positive. i always think that's a nice anteat— i always think that's a nice antoat-ttt- i always think that's a nice upbeat i'll throw i always think that's a nice. upbeat-i'll throw it upbeat thing and i'll throw it onon— upbeat thing and i'll throw it open-vow.— upbeat thing and i'll throw it open-vow. tave— upbeat thing and i'll throw it open you. have you got open to you. have you got anvtttng— open to you. have you got anything that— open to you. have you got anything that you feel happy and anteat— anything that you feel happy and upbeat-gotttng— anything that you feel happy and upbeat getting all upbeat about getting touch all the upbeat about getting touch all tto-ways. — upbeat about getting touch all tto-ways. .tor- upbeat about getting touch all the ways. for now, the usual ways. but for now, tot-s— the usual ways. but for now, tots-on— the usual ways. but for now, let's-on, shall- the usual ways. but for now, let's on, shall we? because let's move on, shall we? because vow— let's move on, shall we? because vow wttt— let's move on, shall we? because you will-noticed— let's move on, shall we? because you will-noticed by- let's move on, shall we? because you will noticed by now you will have noticed by now ttat— you will have noticed by now ttat-sootng— you will have noticed by now that-seeing-more. that we're seeing yet more stato— that we're seeing yet more strike—more- that we're seeing yet more. strike—more talks that we're seeing yet more- strike_more talks of strike action, yet more talks of strttos— strike action, yet more talks of strttos ant— strike action, yet more talks of strikes, and we're— strike action, yet more talks of strikes, and we're seeing a vartotv— strikes, and we're seeing a vartotv ot— strikes, and we're seeing a variety of things happening with anions-wttt,— variety of things happening with unions .with, for— variety of things happening with unions with, for example, unions outwith, for example, unions out with, for example, some-accepting- unions outwith, for example, some accepting the pay some people accepting the pay ottors— some people accepting the pay ottors-nasttng- some people accepting the pay offers, pushing more offers, others pushing for more , or ottors— offers, others pushing for more , or others-for- offers, others pushing for more , or others for quite , or others pushing for quite ovo—watonng — , or others pushing for quite eye—watering sums over and above tnttatton— eye—watering sums over and above tnttatton gatto— eye—watering sums over and above inflation, quite frankly , we've inflation, quite frankly, we've tat— inflation, quite frankly, we've tatlatt— inflation, quite frankly, we've tatlatt going— inflation, quite frankly, we've had all going on, haven't we? had it all going on, haven't we? tto— had it all going on, haven't we? the _economist_ had it all going on, haven't we? the _economist or- had it all going on, haven't we? the economist or one of the chief economist or one of tton —tngtanti them at the bank of england saving— them at the bank of england saying basically— them at the bank of england saying basically all got saying basically we've all got to-to— saying basically we've all got to-to tong- saying basically we've all got to-to totng a- saying basically we've all got to to being a little to get used to being a little bit to get used to being a little on goororo— to get used to being a little bit poorer?.|'ve- to get used to being a little bit poorer? i've got bit poorer? sir i've got a stnnto— bit poorer? sir i've got a simple question. do you think tnttatton— simple question. do you think inflation matching let's not worn— inflation matching let's not worry tor— inflation matching let's not worry tor tto— inflation matching let's not worry for the moment about over tnttatton— worry for the moment about over tnttatton tat— worry for the moment about over inflation, but inflation natottng— inflation, but inflation matching rises is a

matching pay rises is a roast— matching pay rises is a realistic thing to demand . 't: realistic thing to demand. and wean.— realistic thing to demand. and wean. .— realistic thing to demand. and yeah . tttnt— realistic thing to demand. and yeah, i think it— realistic thing to demand. and yeah, i think it is— realistic thing to demand. and yeah, i think it is because i think when you look at the inflation that we're experience seeing at the moment, it's not coming from wages. not coming from wages. we're not seeing a wage price spiral . so seeing a wage price spiral. so what we're seeing is a price wage spiral. what we're seeing is workers responding in their wage requests or demands. call it what you will to the economic landscape and the inflation that we've got has largely been caused as a result of the opening up of the economy after the pandemic. as a result of the war in ukraine. but there's another facet to it that people rarely talk about, which is naked profiteering going naked profiteering that is going on at the moment. we are seeing companies the tories whacking up their prices in an attempt to increase their profits when actually there's no real justification for them doing it. and even as energy and gas and oil prices are now starting to tumble , you're still seeing some tumble, you're still seeing some of those companies maintaining

their prices. so what i think we're seeing is something that some pundits have coined as greedflation an and instead of arguing that the onus should be on workers to show wage restraint and to accept a fall in real wages and a fall in living standards , perhaps the living standards, perhaps the responsibility should be on some of these big companies to show a bit of profit restraint . yeah, bit of profit restraint. yeah, and i've often we've- e e yeah, and i've often we've debated ttts— and i've often we've debated ttts verv— and i've often we've debated ttts vorv tono.— and i've often we've debated this very topic. keen viewers wttt— this very topic. keen viewers wttt know— this very topic. keen viewers will know about— this very topic. keen viewers will know about green greedflation- will know about green greedflation . i am a capitalist, greedflation. i am a capitalist, tat— greedflation. i am a capitalist, tat .— greedflation. i am a capitalist, tat . to— greedflation. i am a capitalist, but i do favour— greedflation. i am a capitalist, but i do favour responsible oapttattsn— but i do favour responsible oagttattsn .— but i do favour responsible capitalism . and i think what's capitalism. and i think what's going— capitalism. and i think what's gotng on— capitalism. and i think what's gotng on at— capitalism. and i think what's gotng on at tto— capitalism. and i think what's going on at the moment with grotttoonng— going on at the moment with profiteering in— going on at the moment with profiteering in some cases is gutte— profiteering in some cases is quite irresponsible. but and ton-t— quite irresponsible. but and ton-t worry— quite irresponsible. but and don't worry everyone, i won't open— don't worry everyone, i won't open ttts— don't worry everyone, i won't open ttts-ot— don't worry everyone, i won't open this of worms again. i open this can of worms again. i do open this can of worms again. i to tttnt— open this can of worms again. i to tttnt ttat— open this can of worms again. i do think that everyone demanding all—lockdowns- do think that everyone demanding all_lockdowns and- do think that everyone demanding all lockdowns and all all these long lockdowns and all ttoso—tavol these companies, they did have ttts— these companies, they did have ttts-grotto— these companies, they did have hits-profits in- these companies, they did have hits profits in some hits to their profits in some tas— hits to their profits in some instances. so— hits to their profits in some instances. so now some them instances. so now some of them are instances. so now some of them trvtng— instances. so now some of them trvtnglotaw— instances. so now some of them are trying-claw it— instances. so now some of them are trying claw it back. but are trying to claw it back. but ton-t— are trying to claw it back. but ton-t worry,— are trying to claw it back. but don't worry,-open- are trying to claw it back. but don't worry, open my don't worry, i won't open my cowo— don't worry, i won't open my cont-ot— don't worry, i won't open my covid-of worms. - don't worry, i won't open my covid of worms. let's covid can of worms. let's bring it covid can of worms. let's bring tt-traot.— covid can of worms. let's bring tt-traot. tto— covid can of worms. let's bring it-track. the price- it back on track. the price inflation— it back on track. the price inflation levels- it back on track. the price inflation levels do you think ttat-s— inflation levels do you think that's reasonable for people to want—want- want? well, you can want wtatovor— want? well, you can want whatever you _ want? well, you can want whatever you but do you whatever you want, but do you tttnt— whatever you want, but do you think-reasonable- whatever you want, but do you think reasonable to think it's reasonable thing to aotaattv—

think it's reasonable thing to aotaattv to— think it's reasonable thing to actually be looking to receive? so actually be looking to receive? so .— actually be looking to receive? so . tttnt— actually be looking to receive? so . tttnt tt-s— actually be looking to receive? so i think it's a— actually be looking to receive? so i think it's a very— actually be looking to receive? so i think it's a very rational thing to for as paul was thing to ask for as paul was saying, as we all are very aware, there are very large numbers of people who are really struggling to, you know, not to particularly live a luxurious life, but just to pay basic bills . so i life, but just to pay basic bills. so i think it's very rational. do i think it's reasonable ? i think this is reasonable? i think this is a really difficult question to answer because if you're on a low income and you are struggling, then it probably is quite reasonable to expect to have a bit more of a generous pay have a bit more of a generous pay settlements if actually you're on a slightly higher salary or even a high salary, then actually i'm not sure it is quite as reasonable to be asking for that . and i think, you know, for that. and i think, you know, ultimately , whether it's in the ultimately, whether it's in the pubuc ultimately, whether it's in the public sector or the private sector or for charities, which is category, often is another category, we often don't talk about, where they're clearly not able to profiteer or do anything else that's going to get more money in. there has to be some constraint because they have to pay bills and therefore i'm not it is always i'm not sure it is always

reasonable expect that you reasonable to expect that you can a an inflation matching can get a an inflation matching pay can get a an inflation matching pay rise. certainly. you know, my organisation is a small charity . i wouldn't be able to charity. i wouldn't be able to afford to pay the full inflation amount. i was as generous as i could be. but i do think the point about companies behaving badly and using high inflation as an excuse to raise prices is in fact well beyond the inflation impact. we have a newspaper subscription. i will not name the newspaper, but it is a very mainstream newspaper who have just put up their pnces who have just put up their prices by 25. and when i asked them how they justified that, they just said, oh, well, you know, hq are requiring that because of inflation. well, that's two and a half times inflation. so that's not a reasonable price rise . so reasonable price rise. so i think there is definitely something in that. well, the government— something in that. well, the government never- g " well, the government never criticised us, vow— government never criticised us, vow-tnstnossos- government never criticised us, you businesses and you know, businesses and otonannos— you know, businesses and companies who decide to put tton— companies who decide to put ttotr nrtoos— companies who decide to put tton prices up— companies who decide to put their prices up for the reasons ttov— their prices up for the reasons ttov otto— their prices up for the reasons they cite. well,— their prices up for the reasons they cite. well, you know , we're they cite. well, you know, we're ttvtng — they cite. well, you know, we're ttvtng tn— they cite. well, you know, we're ttvtng tn tto— they cite. well, you know, we're living in the world— they cite. well, you know, we're living in the world of inflation ant— living in the world of inflation ant or— living in the world of inflation and our overheads, our costs

tave— and our overheads, our costs tavo gono— and our overheads, our costs tavo gone up.— and our overheads, our costs have gone up. therefore we've got to— have gone up. therefore we've got to pass— have gone up. therefore we've got to pass ttat— have gone up. therefore we've got to pass that on to the to tto— got to pass that on to the to the customer.— got to pass that on to the to the customer. now, what the government— the customer. now, what the government-is,- the customer. now, what the government is, okay, you government says is, okay, you know,— government says is, okay, you know-entirety- government says is, okay, you know, entirely rational. know, that's entirely rational. ttat-s— know, that's entirely rational. ttat-s-tannons- know, that's entirely rational. that's happens business. that's what happens in business. but that's what happens in business. tat—annttosl but the same principle applies. snow— but the same principle applies. snow to— but the same principle applies. snow to a— but the same principle applies. surely to a worker. if a worker is experiencing— surely to a worker. if a worker is experiencing a— surely to a worker. if a worker is experiencing a fall in living stantarts— is experiencing a fall in living standards as— is experiencing a fall in living standards as a— is experiencing a fall in living standards as a result of rampant tnttatton— standards as a result of rampant tnttatton an— standards as a result of rampant inflation, an then— standards as a result of rampant inflation, an then it's entirely roasonatto— inflation, an then it's entirely reasonable for— inflation, an then it's entirely reasonable for that worker to say,— reasonable for that worker to saw wett— reasonable for that worker to sayv wet, to— reasonable for that worker to say, well, do you— reasonable for that worker to say, well, do you know what my tatoar— say, well, do you know what my tatoar otargo— say, well, do you know what my labour charge has— say, well, do you know what my labour charge has gone up because— labour charge has gone up because-being- labour charge has gone up because being by higher because i'm being hit by higher costs— because i'm being hit by higher costs ant— because i'm being hit by higher costs and therefore it's reasonable— costs and therefore it's reasonable me to be able costs and therefore it's- reasonable.me to be able to reasonable for me to be able to meet— reasonable for me to be able to meet ttoso— reasonable for me to be able to meet those costs.— reasonable for me to be able to meet those costs. you know, i tavo— meet those costs. you know, i tavo to— meet those costs. you know, i tavo to pat— meet those costs. you know, i tavo to out no— meet those costs. you know, i have to put up my- meet those costs. you know, i have to put up my labour charge and have to put up my labour charge ant wtat— have to put up my labour charge ant wtat tto— have to put up my labour charge and what the government says in the and what the government says in tto tnst— and what the government says in tto ttrst aso— and what the government says in the first case .well,_ and what the government says in the first case well, you the first case is, well, you know,— the first case is, well, you know-tavo— the first case is, well, you know, . have to - the first case is, well, you know, have to accept that know, we have to accept that tsrnossos— know, we have to accept that businesses will— know, we have to accept that businesses will put up. businesses will put prices up. tt-s— businesses will put prices up. no onttrotv— businesses will put prices up. it's entirely reasonable and rattonat— it's entirely reasonable andi rational—rational rational thing to do, rational tttng— rational thing to do, rational tttng-tat— rational thing to do, rational tttng-tat tn— rational thing to do, rational thing _but in the - rational thing to do, rational thing but in the second thing to do. but in the second ttov— thing to do. but in the second ttov saw— thing to do. but in the second case they say, oh— thing to do. but in the second case they say, oh well, no, ttat-s—tto- case they say, oh well, no,- that's _the worker that's outrageous. the worker stoattn-t— that's outrageous. the worker. shouldn't—labour shouldn't put his or her labour otargo— shouldn't put his or her labour marge-no,— shouldn't put his or her labour charge-no, that's- charge up. no, no, that's unreasonable.- charge up. no, no, that's unreasonable. worker has charge up. no, no, that's- unreasonable.-worker has got charge up. no, no, that's- unshow1able.-worker has got charge up. no, no, that's un show restraint. worker has got charge up. no, no, that's un show restraint. whater has got charge up. no, no, that's un show restraint. what does; got charge up. no, no, that's un show restraint. what does thet to show restraint. what does the worort— to show restraint. what does the worker-tong?- to show restraint. what does the worker-doing? you. worker think he's doing? you know,— worker think he's doing? you tnowla— worker think he's doing? you tnowla tn— worker think he's doing? you know,.a in an— worker think he's doing? you know, a in an age of know, in a in an age of inflation— know, in a in an age of inflation demanding inflation, tovotttng—antl levelling pay increase is and ttat— levelling pay increase is and ttatlttat— levelling pay increase is and that-that is— levelling pay increase is and that-that is the- levelling pay increase is and that that is the hypocrisy. that is that is the hypocrisy. we,— that is that is the hypocrisy. woltttnt— that is that is the hypocrisy. we,ithink, at— that is that is the hypocrisy. we, think, at the heart of we, i think, at the heart of conservative— we, i think, at the heart of conservative philosophy when it oonosltto— conservative philosophy when it comes the distinction they

comes to the distinction they traw— comes to the distinction they draw-distinction. comes to the distinction they draw distinction they draw the unfair distinction they traw— draw the unfair distinction they draw, particularly— draw the unfair distinction they draw, particularly in a scenario tto— draw, particularly in a scenario ttto ttts— draw, particularly in a scenario ttto ttts oo— draw, particularly in a scenario like this one, with— draw, particularly in a scenario like this one, with inflation totwoon— like this one, with inflation between business and between wororst tn— between business and between workers. i'm not— between business and between workers. i'm not i'm- between business and between workers. i'm not i'm not sure thatis workers. i'm not i'm not sure that is entirely fair, as you might expect me to say, because i think there are there are different things that are being conflated there. so actually , conflated there. so actually, ttoro-tt— conflated there. so actually, ttoro-tt to— conflated there. so actually, there'll be plenty— conflated there. so actually, there'll be plenty of- ,: n22; so actually, there'll be plenty of people in there'll be plenty of people in the government.— there'll be plenty of people in the government. indeed there tavo— the government. indeed there tavo toen— the government. indeed there have been plenty of people in the government— have been plenty of people in the government who have been ortttotstng— criticising some companies, rowing— criticising some companies, rotvtng on— criticising some companies, rotvtng tor— criticising some companies, relying on, for example, welfare top relying on, for example, welfare ton-rattor— relying on, for example, welfare top-rather than— relying on, for example, welfare top rather than paying top ups rather than paying tooont— top ups rather than paying decent wages— top ups rather than paying decent wages that people can ttvo— decent wages that people can ttvo — decent wages that people can live on. you've— decent wages that people can live on. you've got to remember ttts— live on. you've got to remember ttts was— live on. you've got to remember ttts atso— live on. you've got to remember this was also the— live on. you've got to remember this was also the government ttat— this was also the government ttat ttat— this was also the government that that has— this was also the government that that has just significantly nroasot— that that has just significantly increased the— that that has just significantly increased the national living wago— increased the national living wage. so— increased the national living wage. so .— increased the national living wage. so i don't— increased the national living wage. so i don't think that is onttrotv— wage. so i don't think that is onttrotv tan.— wage. so i don't think that is entirely fair. i— wage. so i don't think that is entirely fair. i also don't tttnt— entirely fair. i also don't think you've— entirely fair. i also don't think you've got a government ttat-s— think you've got a government was gong— think you've got a government that's going around saying, wean— that's going around saying, yeahv vow— that's going around saying, yeah, you know, companies can wtaot— yeah, you know, companies can wtaot an— yeah, you know, companies can whack up whatever prices they want— whack up whatever prices they want .— whack up whatever prices they want . ant— whack up whatever prices they want . and actually this want. and actually in this scenario,-bank. want. and actually in this scenario, bank of scenario, it's the bank of tngtant— scenario, it's the bank of tngtant-ts- scenario, it's the bank of england,-is an- scenario, it's the bank of england, is an indian england, which is an indian nontont— england, which is an indian pendent-that- england, which is an indian pendent that telling pendent entity that is telling goonto— pendent entity that is telling - poonto—noro people that they should be more rostratnot— people that they should be more restrained-in— people that they should be more restrained - in the - people that they should be more restrained in the way the restrained in the in the way the tant— restrained in the in the way the tank-one— restrained in the in the way the tank-one ot— restrained in the in the way the bank-one of the- restrained in the in the way the bank restrained in the in the way the. bank-one of the reasons that bank is. one of the reasons that the bank england are doing the bank of england are doing this. literally got

this. they've literally got one job, the bank of england essentially, which is keep essentially, which is to keep inflation to its 2% target. absolutely. failed absolutely. it failed monumentally so instead of actually looking actually sitting there looking inwards know actually sitting there looking inwardyou're know actually sitting there looking inwardyou're rumbled know actually sitting there looking inwardyou're rumbled me,ow actually sitting there looking inwardyou're rumbled me, i've what? you're rumbled me, i've failed what they're failed at my job. what they're actually is your fault. actually doing is your fault. your your fault. and by your fault, your fault. and by the way, it's definitely your fault that's the fault as well. that's the proton — fault as well. that's the problem .handing. fault as well. that's the problem .handing of problem with handing control of monetary— problem with handing control of monetary-to— problem with handing control of monetary-to the- problem with handing control of monetary to the bank of monetary policy to the bank of tngtant— monetary policy to the bank of tngtant-savtng- monetary policy to the bank of england saying, as said, england and saying, as you said, ttotot— england and saying, as you said, ttotot, vow— england and saying, as you said, michel, your-job— england and saying, as you said, michel, your-job is- michel, your only job is essentially— michel, your only job is essentially stability essentially price stability tooaaso— essentially price stability. because _ see because they will then see ovorvtttng — because they will then see . everything _prism because they will then see - everything _ prism of everything through the prism of once— everything through the prism of once statttttv— everything through the prism of price stability. that price stability. what does that mean— mean? it means holding down ages— mean? it means holding down agos tt— mean? it means holding down agos tt noans— mean? it means holding down wages. it means whacking up tntorost— wages. it means whacking up interest-tt— wages. it means whacking up interest if necessary. interest rates if necessary. wtat— interest rates if necessary. wtat-ttat— interest rates if necessary. what-that-forl interest rates if necessary.- what-that-for demand what does that mean for demand in what does that mean for demand tn—wtat— what does that mean for demand tn—wtat toes- what does that mean for demand in _what does it. in the economy? what does it noan—wtatl in the economy? what does it. mean—what does mean for investment? what does it mean for investment? what does tt-tastnossos- mean for investment? what does it-businesseslbe- it mean for businesses to be atto— it mean for businesses to be ante-ant- it mean for businesses to be able-and borrow. it mean for businesses to be- able-and borrow money? able to thrive and borrow money? wtat— able to thrive and borrow money? wtat toes— able to thrive and borrow money? wtat toos tt— able to thrive and borrow money? what does it mean— able to thrive and borrow money? what does it mean for competitiveness? even what does it mean for competitiveness?.even all competitiveness? us even if all of competitiveness? us even if all ot-tttngs— competitiveness? us even if all ot-tttngs tate— competitiveness? us even if all of-things take a- competitiveness? us even if all of things take a hit, as of those things take a hit, as tong— of those things take a hit, as tong as— of those things take a hit, as long as-monetary- of those things take a hit, as long as monetary policy long as the monetary policy conntttoo— long as the monetary policy committee well, we've long as the monetary policy. comnourte-well, we've long as the monetary policy comnour job well, we've long as the monetary policy comnour job because �*ell, we've long as the monetary policy comnour job because we'vez've long as the monetary policy comnour job because we've hit done ourjob because we've hit the inflation— done ourjob because we've hit the inflation target, then ttat-s— the inflation target, then that's ultimately all they're tntorostot— that's ultimately all they'rei interested _we interested in. that's why we need,— interested in. that's why we not _wow- interested in. that's why wej need, _view,-of need, in my view, control of monetary— need, in my view, control of monetary restored to monetary policy restored to democratic— monetary policy restored to democratic control. but even astto— democratic control. but even astto tron — democratic control. but even aside from whatever your view is of aside from whatever your view is ot-tntonontonoo— aside from whatever your view is of-independence of- aside from whatever your view is of independence of the bank of the independence of the bank of the independence of the bank ot tngtant— of the independence of the bank ot tngtant .— of the independence of the bank of england , and— of the independence of the bank of england , and we won't get of england, and we won't get tnto— of england, and we won't get into tto— of england, and we won't get into the market— of england, and we won't get into the market volatility that

we into the market volatility that wo-wton — into the market volatility that we .when there - into the market volatility that we when there were we saw when there were suggestions— we saw when there were suggestions not long ago that ttat— suggestions not long ago that ttat ntgtt— suggestions not long ago that that might change, but certainly the that might change, but certainly tto nartots— that might change, but certainly the markets-not— that might change, but certainly the markets not respond the markets did not respond wett— the markets did not respond well, wttot— the markets did not respond well, which does have implications- well, which does have implications for people's wages, for implications for people's wages, tor—to- implications for people's wages, tor—to nav- for people's ability to pay nortgagos— for people's ability to pay mortgages—sol for people's ability to pay- mortgages,-so there's mortgages, etcetera. so there's a—ttat. - mortgages, etcetera. so there's a that. but a knock on impact to that. but setting aside, you know, as setting that aside, you know, as you this this cost you pointed out, this this cost of living crisis we're in was totally foreseeable because of the pent up demand that was created in the pandemic. totally foreseeable. and the bank of england did nothing ing to try and get ahead of what has happened.so and get ahead of what has happened. so even if you you know, let's set aside the debate of the independence and just say, well, that was their job. they have you're right they've absolutely taking absolutely failed on taking action in a timely manner to try and prevent. and then will there be and prevent. and then will there to anv— and prevent. and then will there be any accountability— a�*t: and then will there be any accountability for 3�*2 and then will there be any accountability for that tattaroo— be any accountability for that failure? .they_ be any accountability for that failure? they will my failure? no, they will not. my concern-well— failure? no, they will not. my concern-well is— failure? no, they will not. my concern well is we make a concern as well is we make it a trtot— concern as well is we make it a not oontovt. — concern as well is we make it a not oontovt. .— concern as well is we make it a brief context. i want you brief context. i want to ask you about— brief context. i want to ask you atoat—roattvl about something else really trtot. — about something else really trtot. -a- about something else reallyi brief. _a stagnant brief. we've got a stagnant economy. economy is economy. the economy is flatlining. we could potentially tip a recession one tip into a recession at one point. thing we should point. the last thing we should be is reducing people's be doing is reducing people's disposable incomes. need disposable incomes. what we need to get real wages rising

to do is get real wages rising and demand because and keep demand high, because the want is that the last thing we want is that vicious where we low vicious circle where we see low growth or no growth, and then all a sudden we see all of a sudden we see unemployment businesses unemployment and businesses laying people off because they're profits. they're not making any profits. higher welfare claims. and that's of thing that we that's the sort of thing that we need to avoid. we should need to avoid. and we should have learned the lessons, frankly, the 1930 how frankly, from the 1930 about how you recessions. you avoid serious recessions. but we're still, but it seems that we're still, even these years later, even all these years later, making same mistakes. making those same mistakes. richard michelle, are richard says, oh, michelle, are you— richard says, oh, michelle, arei you—greedflation? you talking about greedflation? but you talking about greedflation? tat—atoatl but what you're talking about toro— but what you're talking about tore—ant- but what you're talking about. tore—antlsavs here is capitalism. and he says ttoro-s— here is capitalism. and he says ttoros-ons— here is capitalism. and he says there's-cons to- here is capitalism. and he says there's-cons to it,- here is capitalism. and he says there's cons to it, but there's pros and cons to it, but he there's pros and cons to it, but to saws— there's pros and cons to it, but to savs tt— there's pros and cons to it, but to says it ts— there's pros and cons to it, but he says it is the— there's pros and cons to it, but he says it is the best system ttat— he says it is the best system ttat-ts. — he says it is the best system ttat-ts. 0r— he says it is the best system that-is. or one- he says it is the best system that is. or one the that there is. or one of the tttngs— that there is. or one of the tttngs ttat— that there is. or one of the things that caught my eye vostortaw— things that caught my eye yesterday, whenever was, yesterday, whenever it was, is tto— yesterday, whenever it was, is tto-totttng— yesterday, whenever it was, is tto-totttng a— yesterday, whenever it was, is the holding a strike on. i the rmt holding a strike on. i tttnt— the rmt holding a strike on. i tttnt tt-s— the rmt holding a strike on. i tttnt its a— the rmt holding a strike on. i think it's a eurovision final, tto— think it's a eurovision final, tto tav— think it's a eurovision final, tto tav ot— think it's a eurovision final, the day of the— think it's a eurovision final, the day of the eurovision final . wow— the day of the eurovision final . wow .— the day of the eurovision final . wow . wttt— the day of the eurovision final . now i will hold— the day of the eurovision final . now i will hold my hands up. i am . now i will hold my hands up. i an not— . now i will hold my hands up. i an not a— . now i will hold my hands up. i am not a eurovision— . now i will hold my hands up. i am not a eurovision viewer. it's going— am not a eurovision viewer. it's going to— am not a eurovision viewer. it's gotng to to— am not a eurovision viewer. it's gotng to to on— am not a eurovision viewer. it's gotng to to on my— am not a eurovision viewer. it's going to be on my thing. no, i'm not.— going to be on my thing. no, i'm not. out— going to be on my thing. no, i'm not. tat tt-s— going to be on my thing. no, i'm not. but it's not— going to be on my thing. no, i'm not. but it's not for— going to be on my thing. no, i'm not. but it's not for me. the wtoto— not. but it's not for me. the whole eurovision— not. but it's not for me. the whole eurovision thing, not. but notwithstanding— whole eurovision thing, not. but notwithstanding that there is a war notwithstanding that there is a tn— notwithstanding that there is a war in ukraine— notwithstanding that there is a war in ukraine in— notwithstanding that there is a war in ukraine in this country, we've extended— war in ukraine in this country, we've extended the hands of ovorvtttng— we've extended the hands of everything, really money, homes,

all everything, really money, homes, att tto— everything, really money, homes, at tto rost— everything, really money, homes, all the rest of— everything, really money, homes, all the rest of it.— everything, really money, homes, all the rest of it. apparently, on tto— all the rest of it. apparently, we're on the shoulders or stoattor— we're on the shoulders or shoulder with— we're on the shoulders or shoulder with ukraine. you know, tong— shoulder with ukraine. you know, we're doing absolutely ovorvtttng— we're doing absolutely everything to help them and all the everything to help them and all tto rost— everything to help them and all tto rost ot— everything to help them and all the rest of including the rest of it, including tosttng— the rest of it, including hosting the— the rest of it, including hosting the eurovision because the rest of it, including hcwasn't he eurovision because the rest of it, including hcwasn't he elto vision because the rest of it, including hcwasn't he elto do on because the rest of it, including hcwasn't he elto do so because the rest of it, including hcwasn't he elto do so in cause it wasn't safe to do so in ukraine.— it wasn't safe to do so in ukraine. when- it wasn't safe to do so in ukraine. when i then look at the ttat— ukraine. when i then look at the ttat trvtng— ukraine. when i then look at the ttat trvtng to— ukraine. when i then look at the rmt trying to then— ukraine. when i then look at the rmt trying to then disrupt googto— rmt trying to then disrupt googto ttat— rmt trying to then disrupt people that are into the eurovision— people that are into the eurovision that do want to be in ttvornoot— eurovision that do want to be in ttvornoot to — eurovision that do want to be in liverpool to celebrate all the rest— liverpool to celebrate all the rest ot— liverpool to celebrate all the rest ot tt— liverpool to celebrate all the rest of it, what— liverpool to celebrate all the rest of it, what do you think to nan— rest of it, what do you think to ttato no— rest of it, what do you think to ttato to wow— rest of it, what do you think to that? do you think— rest of it, what do you think to that? do you think it's a good to— that? do you think it's a good to stop— that? do you think it's a good move to stop people trying to be part— move to stop people trying to be part-ttat?— move to stop people trying to be nartlttato .— move to stop people trying to be part-that? i think— move to stop people trying to be part that? i think the part of that? i think the proton — part of that? i think the proton ts— part of that? i think the problem is, michel, you can problem is, michel, if you can eat— problem is, michel, if you can tau-on— problem is, michel, if you can oatt-on anv- problem is, michel, if you can call-on any day- problem is, michel, if you can call-on any day in. problem is, michel, if you can call on any day in this call a strike on any day in this ooantrv— call a strike on any day in this ooantrv-ttoro— call a strike on any day in this country .there will- call a strike on any day in this country there will always be country and there will always be sonotttng— country and there will always be something—will something happening, there will atwavs—gotng- something happening, there will atwavs—gotng onl always be an event going on somewhere going be somewhere that is going to be impacted— somewhere that is going to be tnpaotot tw— somewhere that is going to be impacted by the _ somewhere that is going to be impacted by the strike. let's be want.— impacted by the strike. let's be ttant. ant— impacted by the strike. let's be want. no so— impacted by the strike. let's be blunt. and so in— impacted by the strike. let's be blunt. and so in many respects, unions a no win unions are in a no win situation. i mean, i've on situation. i mean, i've been on strike, but seems to me situation. i mean, i've been on striktmuch seems to me situation. i mean, i've been on striktmuch like seems to me situation. i mean, i've been on striktmuch like atems to me situation. i mean, i've been on striktmuch like a deliberatet very much like a deliberate targeting of that event that you're targeting, an event that we're a war we're hosting on behalf of a war torn country. well, let me say ttts.— torn country. well, let me say ttts. — torn country. well, let me say ttts. oven— torn country. well, let me say ttts. tven tt— torn country. well, let me say this. even if it is even if it is, then i think we would all have understand, look, if you have to understand, look, if you are and you're trying to are a union and you're trying to maximise pressure on your

employer to make a reasonable offer before you take strike action, employ offer before you take strike action, that employ offer before you take strike action, that increase employ offer before you take strike action, that increase youremploy tactics that increase your leverage to the maximum amount, aren't you? you can't expect any union to say, okay, we're going to take strike with no morality. well, because you think feels well, because you think it feels tto— well, because you think it feels tttolttttto — well, because you think it feels likellittle bit— well, because you think it feels like little bit wrong. you've like a little bit wrong. you've got— like a little bit wrong. you've got ant— like a little bit wrong. you've got ant .— like a little bit wrong. you've got and i have— like a little bit wrong. you've got and i have say , i'm not got and i have to say, i'm not tnto— got and i have to say, i'm not into eurovision.— got and i have to say, i'm not into eurovision. not into eurovision. i am not sttttng— into eurovision. i am not sitting here— into eurovision. i am not sitting here defending eurovision.— sitting here defending eurovision. thing. eurovision. it's not my thing. out— eurovision. it's not my thing. tat-tot— eurovision. it's not my thing. tat-tot ot— eurovision. it's not my thing. but lot of people, it is but for a lot of people, it is tton— but for a lot of people, it is ttotr tttng— but for a lot of people, it is their thing-it- but for a lot of people, it is their thing-it is- but for a lot of people, it is their thing it is quite their thing and it is quite svntotto— their thing and it is quite symbolic that— their thing and it is quite symbolic that this year, at the cost— symbolic that this year, at the cost-ot— symbolic that this year, at the cost-of millions,- cost of tens of millions, i tttnt— cost of tens of millions, i tttnt tt-s— cost of tens of millions, i think it's going- cost of tens of millions, i think it's going costing think it's going to be costing the-somewhat- think it's going to be costing the somewhat like that. we the bbc somewhat like that. we tavo—tostot- the bbc somewhat like that. we have—hosted this- have generously hosted this event— have generously hosted this event on— have generously hosted this event on behalf— have generously hosted this event on behalf of this war torn country.— event on behalf of this war torn country. someone— event on behalf of this war torn country. someone con at the start—saws- country. someone con at thel start _ says there's start of the show says there's notttng— start of the show says there's notttng-gotng- start of the show says there's nothing-goingiati start of the show says there's. nothing-goingiat the nothing positive going on at the moment—there. nothing positive going on at the moment—there isi moment in this world. there is a big moment in this world. there is a tag-tttng— moment in this world. there is a ttg-tttng ant- moment in this world. there is a big _thing and the - moment in this world. there is a big thing and the union big positive thing and the union wants— big positive thing and the union wantslttsrant— big positive thing and the union wants-disrupt it— big positive thing and the union wants disrupt it for its own wants to disrupt it for its own onts. — wants to disrupt it for its own onts. |tttnt— wants to disrupt it for its own ends. ithink-is- wants to disrupt it for its own ends. think is pretty ends. i think that is pretty sotttst— ends. i think that is pretty selfish definition. g selfish by definition. taking strike— selfish by definition. taking strike action _ selfish by definition. taking strike action is disruptive. there will always be a level of disruption. there's there will always be a level of disruption . there's levels. so disruption. there's levels. so why— disruption. there's levels. so wtv ttt— disruption. there's levels. so why did-cancel?- 2 22»" there's levels. so why did cancel? because why did they cancel? because wot— why did they cancel? because woron-t—tol weren't they planning to do sonotttng— weren't they planning to do something-the. something on the on the coronation— something on the on the coronation weekend? �*fvt�*»2;ll coronation weekend? well, but but coronation weekend? well, but tat toot.— coronation weekend? well, but but look, but then they decided cancel it. unions will always decide the tactics they decide the tactics that they think, as said before, will

think, as i said before, will maximise leverage. that is maximise their leverage. that is not just as, by not unreasonable. just as, by the employers in response the way, employers in response will their own will always choose their own tactics try undermine tactics which try to undermine the of the union. now, the leverage of the union. now, of course, unions have to of course, what unions have to do make sure when they do is make sure that when they set strike dates or employ tactics, they don't alienate the pubuc tactics, they don't alienate the public too much because then pubuc public too much because then public support collapses and they could end up losing the dispute. is obviously dispute. so this is obviously a judgement by rmt, but judgement call by the rmt, but well, throw it open to you well, i'll throw it open to you to be the judge of don't forget as well. and know it's not rmt as well. and i know it's not rmt totoro— as well. and i know it's not rmt totoro vow— as well. and i know it's not rmt totoro vow start— and i know it's not rmt before you start getting in town— before you start getting in touch-don't- before you start getting in touch don't know before you start getting in- touch - don't know what touch saying, i don't know what i'm touch saying, i don't know what tn-atoat,— touch saying, i don't know what i'm _about, but- touch saying, i don't know what i'm about, but aslef the i'm talking about, but aslef the fa i'm talking about, but aslef the to can— i'm talking about, but aslef the to can as— i'm talking about, but aslef the to one as wet. — i'm talking about, but aslef the fa cup as well. it— i'm talking about, but aslef the fa cup as well. it looks like ttat— fa cup as well. it looks like that-disrupted.- fa cup as well. it looks like that disrupted. are you that will be disrupted. are you a-tano— that will be disrupted. are you a-tano noos- that will be disrupted. are you a-fan? does that- that will be disrupted. are you a fan? does that matter a football fan? does that matter to wow— a football fan? does that matter to vow-vow— a football fan? does that matter to you your thoughts in to you or not? your thoughts in all to you or not? your thoughts in att-wavs. — to you or not? your thoughts in all-ways. when- to you or not? your thoughts in all ways. when come back all usual ways. when i come back i'll all usual ways. when i come back ttt-sono— all usual ways. when i come back ttt-sono ot— all usual ways. when i come back i'll some of responses i'll have some of your responses to—atso— i'll have some of your responses to—atso want- i'll have some of your responses to_also want to - i'll have some of your responses to_also want to ask. to that. but i also want to ask you,— to that. but i also want to ask your wo— to that. but i also want to ask you, we was talking about ukraine.— you, we was talking about ukraine-we- you, we was talking about ukraine. we open a big, ukraine. then we open a big, generous-didn't- ukraine. then we open a big, generous didn't we, to generous scheme, didn't we, to note— generous scheme, didn't we, to tote—rotago- generous scheme, didn't we, to tote—rotago tn- generous scheme, didn't we, to help refuge in this help people take refuge in this country— help people take refuge in this country-ukraine- help people take refuge in this country ukraine because country from ukraine because of ttat— country from ukraine because of ttat-wett— country from ukraine because of that-well, we're- that conflict? well, we're very aware-ttoro — that conflict? well, we're very aware there another aware now there is another oontttot— aware now there is another oontttot tn— aware now there is another conflict in sudan. do think conflict in sudan. do you think tton— conflict in sudan. do you think tton-stowa- conflict in sudan. do you think then-should-up- then that we should set up a stnttar— then that we should set up a similar scheme,— then that we should set up a similar scheme, similar scale as wetn— similar scheme, similar scale as wotto-tor— similar scheme, similar scale as wotto-tor tto— similar scheme, similar scale as well? for the sudanese well? perhaps for the sudanese rootsto—

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listening to gb news radio. tetto— listening to gb news radio. tetto ttere. — listening to gb news radio. hello there. i'm— listening to gb news radio. hello there. i'm michelle dewberry keeping you company on this friday night till 7:00 tonight. charlotte pickles is the director of reform think tank and paul is tank and paul emery is a firefighter and author. welcome back , everybody. we were just back, everybody. we were just talking then about pay rises. your thoughts on all of that? rob says we're cup england. what about everywhere else? but he directs it to england. he says, we spent our way out the pandemic. there's a war raging on the doorsteps of europe , on the doorsteps of europe, basically, he says . we've got to basically, he says. we've got to basically, he says. we've got to basically buckle down and strap ourselves in. i think he thinks i'm paraphrasing a bit, rob, for time reasons, but i think what he's saying is, no, we shouldn't be expecting these humongous pay rises, as says, rises, as max says, empathetically . no, you can't empathetically. no, you can't have these big pay rises. love to. no, can't afford it. to. but no, we can't afford it. fred says all of this is caused by the government's obsession with net zero. eliza says , what

with net zero. eliza says, what about very low pay workers , care about very low pay workers, care workers who haven't been able to go on strike? they always get forgotten about, simon says . forgotten about, simon says. paulis forgotten about, simon says. paul is very right about inflation. well said, paul says the rmt are doing a great public service to the british people by disrupting eurovision . i'm not a disrupting eurovision. i'm not a fan of eurovision . then i take fan of eurovision. then i take it keep your thoughts coming in. let's move on, shall we? sudanese refugees face being criminalised and deported from the uk , apparently because there the uk, apparently because there are no safe and legal routes . are no safe and legal routes. people have now been saying it's time for a scheme to be set up. that was similar in speed and breadth and all the rest of it for the same kind of conflict. well, a conflict not not the same, but you know what i mean. that was taking place in ukraine. so that's my question. i'll start with you, charlotte. do you think we need that that same scheme now ? i think

same kind of scheme now? i think it's proper dramatic— same kind of scheme now? i think it's proper dramatic to— »2 2 7 i think it's proper dramatic to create snoottto— it's proper dramatic to create specific schemes— it's proper dramatic to create specific schemes for specific oontttots— specific schemes for specific oontttots .— specific schemes for specific conflicts . and— specific schemes for specific conflicts . and so, for example, conflicts. and so, for example, aotaattv— conflicts. and so, for example, aotaattv .— conflicts. and so, for example, aotaattv , tt— conflicts. and so, for example, actually , if you— conflicts. and so, for example, actually , if you think about the actually, if you think about the atgtan— actually, if you think about the afghan schemes— actually, if you think about the afghan schemes that we put in placer— afghan schemes that we put in gtaoo ttov— afghan schemes that we put in place, they were _ afghan schemes that we put in place, they were not actually for:— place, they were not actually to. wow— place, they were not actually tor, vow know,— place, they were not actually for, you know, any afghan to be atto— for, you know, any afghan to be atto to— for, you know, any afghan to be atto to oo— for, you know, any afghan to be able to come across. it was specific— able to come across. it was spoottto onw— able to come across. it was specific only for— able to come across. it was specific only for those afghans wto— specific only for those afghans wto tat— specific only for those afghans who had worked— specific only for those afghans who had worked with the british out who had worked with the british oat ttoro — who had worked with the british oat ttoro .— who had worked with the british out there . and— who had worked with the british out there . and we— who had worked with the british out there . and we didn't create out there. and we didn't create a specific— out there. and we didn't create a specific route— out there. and we didn't create a specific route ,_ out there. and we didn't create a specific route , despite the a specific route, despite the tatt— a specific route, despite the taot ttat— a specific route, despite the fact that for— a specific route, despite the fact that for many of the people ttvtng — fact that for many of the people ttvtng now— fact that for many of the people ttvtng tn— fact that for many of the people living now in afghanistan and the circumstances are horrific . the circumstances are horrific. res,— the circumstances are horrific. too we— the circumstances are horrific. too we ttt— the circumstances are horrific. yes, we did for— the circumstances are horrific. yes, we did for ukraine, if we do yes, we did for ukraine, if we to tor— yes, we did for ukraine, if we do for sudan,— yes, we did for ukraine, if we do for sudan, will— yes, we did for ukraine, if we do for sudan, will we do that for do for sudan, will we do that tor overv— do for sudan, will we do that for every other— do for sudan, will we do that for every other country where ttoro-s— for every other country where ttoro-s a— for every other country where there's a particular conflict? so there's a particular conflict? so .— there's a particular conflict? so . tttnt. — there's a particular conflict? so i think. but— there's a particular conflict? so i think. but what's the line ttono — so i think. but what's the line ttono so— so i think. but what's the line ttono so wtv— so i think. but what's the line then? 7 so i think. but what's the line then? 27 then? so why ukraine? why why pick that one? is it because what i assume it's because well, i'm know why the i'm i don't know why the government gave the rationale for it. i assume there's protattv— e i assume there's probably several factors, tnotattng— probably several factors, including a— probably several factors, including a invasion of a

country— including a invasion of a country .— including a invasion of a country , which is obviously not country, which is obviously not the country, which is obviously not tto aso— country, which is obviously not tto tn— country, which is obviously not the case in in— country, which is obviously not the case in in sudan. horrendous sttaatton— the case in in sudan. horrendous sttaatton tn— the case in in sudan. horrendous situation in sudan,— the case in in sudan. horrendous situation in sudan, but it's a ttttoront— situation in sudan, but it's a ttttoront tvgo — situation in sudan, but it's a different type of— situation in sudan, but it's a different type of situation. i imagine— different type of situation. i imagine tt— different type of situation. i imagine it has— different type of situation. i imagine it has got something to do imagine it has got something to to wttt— imagine it has got something to to wttt tto— imagine it has got something to do with the fact— imagine it has got something to do with the fact that, as you sat— do with the fact that, as you sat or— do with the fact that, as you sat or as— do with the fact that, as you sat or as .— do with the fact that, as you said or as i think— do with the fact that, as you said or as i think your your viewer pointed— said or as i think your your viewer pointed out, you know, tto— viewer pointed out, you know, tto wa— viewer pointed out, you know, tto on— viewer pointed out, you know, the war on the— viewer pointed out, you know, the war on the doorstep of europe— the war on the doorstep of tarono .— the war on the doorstep of tarono , .— the war on the doorstep of europe , i imagine there were europe, i imagine there were considerations— europe, i imagine there were considerations of i'm not saying ttat-s— considerations of i'm not saying was rtgtt— considerations of i'm not saying was rtgtt or— considerations of i'm not saying that's right or wrong, but i imagine— that's right or wrong, but i imagine there— that's right or wrong, but i imagine there were several taotors— imagine there were several factors that _ imagine there were several factors that went into to that. i factors that went into to that. . tttnt— factors that went into to that. . tttnt tto— factors that went into to that. i think the real— factors that went into to that. i think the real point here is we stoatt— i think the real point here is we should be— i think the real point here is we should be a— i think the real point here is we should be a compassionate nation.— we should be a compassionate natton. wo— we should be a compassionate natton. wo ot— we should be a compassionate nation. we, of course , should be nation. we, of course, should be taking— nation. we, of course, should be tattng people_ nation. we, of course, should be taking people who— nation. we, of course, should be taking people who are fleeing ataso— taking people who are fleeing ataso .— taking people who are fleeing abuse , violence,— taking people who are fleeing abuse , violence, who are abuse, violence, who are torrtttot — abuse, violence, who are terrified for— abuse, violence, who are terrified for their lives. we stoatt — terrified for their lives. we should have— terrified for their lives. we should have a— terrified for their lives. we should have a system that works rattor— should have a system that works rattor ttan— should have a system that works rather than thinking each time we rather than thinking each time wo tavo— rather than thinking each time we tavo to— rather than thinking each time we have to create— rather than thinking each time we have to create new types of stornos so— we have to create new types of schemes. so of— we have to create new types of schemes. so of course the beach stoatt— schemes. so of course the beach stoatt to— schemes. so of course the beach should be safe— schemes. so of course the beach should be safe and— schemes. so of course the beach should be safe and legal routes for should be safe and legal routes tor satanoso— should be safe and legal routes for sudanese us— should be safe and legal routes for sudanese us citizens to be atto— for sudanese us citizens to be atto to— for sudanese us citizens to be atto to artw— for sudanese us citizens to be atto to antv to— for sudanese us citizens to be able to apply to come to the uk . rast— able to apply to come to the uk . just to— able to apply to come to the uk . just to give— able to apply to come to the uk . just to give you— able to apply to come to the uk . just to give you some- able to apply to come to the uk . just to give you some context, by the way, i think it was about 160,000 ukrainians use these schemes, pull your thoughts. i'm sympathetic to the idea. i

mean , we've got— i'm sympathetic to the idea. i mean , we've got a ceasefire in mean, we've got a ceasefire in satan— mean, we've got a ceasefire in satan wttot— mean, we've got a ceasefire in satan wttot .— mean, we've got a ceasefire in sudan, which i think is likely to expire— sudan, which i think is likely to expire today. _ sudan, which i think is likely to expire today. and the predictions— to expire today. and the predictions are that the vtotonoo— predictions are that the violence is— predictions are that the violence is going to intensify . violence is going to intensify. i violence is going to intensify. . noan— violence is going to intensify. . tto— violence is going to intensify. i mean, the violence so far has toen— i mean, the violence so far has been pretty— i mean, the violence so far has been pretty horrendous . and you been pretty horrendous. and you see been pretty horrendous. and you ntotaros— been pretty horrendous. and you gtotaros ot— been pretty horrendous. and you see pictures of people in those circum stances— see pictures of people in those circum stances and refugees ttootng— circum stances and refugees ttootng ant— circum stances and refugees ttootng ant so— circum stances and refugees fleeing and so on. and it strikes— fleeing and so on. and it strikes no— fleeing and so on. and it strikes me that this is exactly the strikes me that this is exactly tto tvno — strikes me that this is exactly tto tvgo ot— strikes me that this is exactly the type of scenario really, ttat— the type of scenario really, ttat tto— the type of scenario really, that the principle of the rosottto— that the principle of the resettle schemes was kind of roato— resettle schemes was kind of roato tor— resettle schemes was kind of create for in— resettle schemes was kind of create for in the— resettle schemes was kind of create for in the first place. so create for in the first place. so .— create for in the first place. so . ton-t— create for in the first place. so i don't necessarily think ttat— so i don't necessarily think ttat tt-s— so i don't necessarily think that it's unreasonable to say ttat— that it's unreasonable to say ttat as— that it's unreasonable to say ttat as as— that it's unreasonable to say ttat as as a— that it's unreasonable to say that as as a western nation, we stoatt— that as as a western nation, we stoatt to— that as as a western nation, we should be willing— that as as a western nation, we should be willing to take a modest— should be willing to take a modest number of those refugees. we modest number of those refugees. we need— modest number of those refugees. wo noot to— modest number of those refugees. wo noot to we— modest number of those refugees. we need to we need— modest number of those refugees. we need to we need to call a modest— we need to we need to call a modest number.— we need to we need to call a modest number. _ we need to we need to call a modest number. �*fvt�*»2;ll g modest number. well, i guess that's for others to say. but i'm asking you, you've- i'm asking you, you've just said a modest— i'm asking you, you've just said a modest number.— i'm asking you, you've just said a modest number. 2g a modest number. i'm asking you what you mean. these a modest number. 22 these things a modest number. 2»2 these things are what you mean. these things are ttoso— what you mean. these things are ttoso ttgaros— what you mean. these things are these figures can't— what you mean. these things are these figures can't be— these things are these figures can't be plucked out these figures can't be plucked oat-an.— these figures can't be plucked oat-atr- vow— these figures can't be plucked out-air. you know,- these figures can't be plucked out air. you know, you out of the air. you know, you noot— out of the air. you know, you noot to— out of the air. you know, you need to think— out of the air. you know, you need to think these things ttroagt. — need to think these things ttrongt. tat— need to think these things through. but but, you know, tot-s— through. but but, you know, tots-tor— through. but but, you know, let's for example, a few let's say, for example, a few ttonsant— let's say, for example, a few. ttonsant—to thousand, i think wouldn't be woattn-t—

thousand, i think wouldn't be wouldn't unreasonable. but wouldn't be unreasonable. but the wouldn't be unreasonable. but tto—as— wouldn't be unreasonable. but tto—as wett- wouldn't be unreasonable. but the—as well is,- the thing i think as well is, toot,— the thing i think as well is, look,-shares- the thing i think as well is, look, shares land the thing i think as well is,- look,-shareslland border look, sudan shares a land border wttt— look, sudan shares a land border wttt tttva— look, sudan shares a land border wttt nova-wo— look, sudan shares a land border with libya.-we-that. look, sudan shares a land border with libya. we that in with libya. now, we know that in terns— with libya. now, we know that in terns-ot— with libya. now, we know that in terns-on tto— with libya. now, we know that in terms-of the heavy- terms of some of the heavy nanorst— terms of some of the heavy nanorst ot— terms of some of the heavy numbers of migrants that have toen— numbers of migrants that have been toning— numbers of migrants that have been coming into— numbers of migrants that have been coming into italy and then moving— been coming into italy and then novtng—taronol been coming into italy and then novtng—tarono ,| moving on throughout europe, ttov-vo— moving on throughout europe, they've originating from they've been originating from tttva— they've been originating from tttva ant— they've been originating from tttva ant a— they've been originating from libya and a number of those rootsto— libya and a number of those googto .— libya and a number of those googto , ot— libya and a number of those people , of course, have ended up people, of course, have ended up toning— people, of course, have ended up coming aross— people, of course, have ended up coming across the _ people, of course, have ended up coming across the channel in the snatt—ts- small boats. so the truth is ttat— small boats. so the truth is ttat tt— small boats. so the truth is ttat it we— small boats. so the truth is that if we if— small boats. so the truth is that if we if we _ small boats. so the truth is that if we if we don't agree to tate— that if we if we don't agree to take a— that if we if we don't agree to take a number— that if we if we don't agree to take a number of— that if we if we don't agree to take a number of these refugees, ttoro-s— take a number of these refugees, there'slchance_ take a number of these refugees, there'slchance-mayl there's a chance that they may ont— there's a chance that they may ent-getting— there's a chance that they may end-getting here- there's a chance that they may end getting here anyway end up getting here anyway ttroagt— end up getting here anyway through mechanism end up getting here anyway through-mechanism we're through the mechanism that we're trying— through the mechanism that we're trying-wore— through the mechanism that we're trvtng-wo-ro trvtng- through the mechanism that we're trying we're trying to trying to that we're trying to prevent.— trying to that we're trying to prevent. tat— trying to that we're trying to prevent. but yeah, look, i mean, we wont— prevent. but yeah, look, i mean, we would need— prevent. but yeah, look, i mean, we would need to— prevent. but yeah, look, i mean, we would need to also make sure ttoro— we would need to also make sure ttoro aro— we would need to also make sure ttoro propor— we would need to also make sure there are proper dispersal oottotos— there are proper dispersal pottotos tn— there are proper dispersal policies in place. if they do .— policies in place. if they do arrive. i think— policies in place. if they do arrive. i think we've been torrttto— arrive. i think we've been terrible at— arrive. i think we've been terrible at that- arrive. i think we've been terrible at that in the past in terns— terrible at that in the past in tons ot— terrible at that in the past in terms of dispersal policies, in terns— terms of dispersal policies, in tons ot— terms of dispersal policies, in terms of integration policies wttt— terms of integration policies with effectively— terms of integration policies with effectively had a policy ttat— with effectively had a policy a..-— with effectively had a policy ttat- vow— with effectively had a policy that-, you know,- with effectively had a policy that , you know, if people that says, you know, if people come here-their- that says, you know, if people- come here .their-claim come here and their asylum claim is come here and their asylum claim ts—ossonttattv- is granted, then essentially ttov— is granted, then essentially ttov tract— is granted, then essentially they crack on,— is granted, then essentially they crack on, you know, but you know— they crack on, you know, but you know .— they crack on, you know, but you know , got— they crack on, you know, but you know , got on — they crack on, you know, but you know , get on with— they crack on, you know, but you know , get on with it and you'll know, get on with it and you'll ttvo— know, get on with it and you'll ttvo vow-tt— know, get on with it and you'll live, you'll live— know, get on with it and you'll live, you'll live anywhere and we wont— live, you'll live anywhere and we won't invest— live, you'll live anywhere and we won't invest local public we won't invest in local public services— we won't invest in local public sorvtooslnato— we won't invest in local public services make that services to make sure that the infrastructure _we i infrastructure can cope. we won-t— infrastructure can cope. we wont to— infrastructure can cope. we won't do anything around, you

know,— won't do anything around, you know, employment. we won't do natt— know, employment. we won't do noon-ot— know, employment. we won't do much of integration much in terms of integration nottotos — much in terms of integration policies. _been- much in terms of integration policies. been terrible at policies. we've been terrible at ttat— policies. we've been terrible at ttat-as— policies. we've been terrible at ttat-as a— policies. we've been terrible at that-as a country- policies. we've been terrible at that as a country in the that as a as a country in the past. — that as a as a country in the past. .ttat— that as a as a country in the past-ttat ts— that as a as a country in the past. that is something i past. and that is something i tttnt—noot- past. and that is something i think—need to- past. and that is something i. think—need to happen think that would need to happen atongstte. — think that would need to happen atongstte. -._ think that would need to happen alongside. .i-almost. think that would need to happen alongside. but i can almost hear quite people shouting quite a few people shouting arcania the way here and arcania all the way here and they'll the they'll be shouting at the screens this is all screens saying, but this is all you we've got many you know. we've got so many people already, already uk citizens that struggle get citizens that struggle to get onto the housing ladder, that are waiting for homes to be made available the councils or available from the councils or whatever. so many whatever. you've got so many people banks, you've whatever. you've got so many peo hotels banks, you've whatever. you've got so many peo hotels absolutely 1ks, you've whatever. you've got so many peo hotels absolutely brimmingt got hotels absolutely brimming thing you're talking about cruise ships or whatever they're called. well not cruise ships. what that? was that what was that? what was that barge? little bit less barge? that's a little bit less glamorous than exactly the problem, michel, because the system broken the system system is broken and the system has broken for many years. has been broken for many years. and because system is so and because the system is so otvtoastv— and because the system is so obviously broken,— and because the system is so obviously broken, it means that the obviously broken, it means that tto generat— obviously broken, it means that the general-out- obviously broken, it means that the general out there , by the general public out there, by ant— the general public out there, by ant-tavo— the general public out there, by and-have lost— the general public out there, by and have lost faith in and large, have lost faith in tto— and large, have lost faith in tto tn— and large, have lost faith in tto tn tto— and large, have lost faith in the in the system. and therefore , vou— the in the system. and therefore , vow know,— the in the system. and therefore vyou tnow, tt— the in the system. and therefore vyou know, it won— the in the system. and therefore , you know, if you had a property— , you know, if you had a properly managed, properly rogatatot— properly managed, properly . regulated—system regulated immigration system wtoro— regulated immigration system i wtoro—ant where numbers were modest and nanagoatto— where numbers were modest and manageable, people would be much more-schemes-this- more up for schemes like this .tooaaso— more up for schemes like this one. because they've got no

one. but because they've got no tattt— one. but because they've got no tatttlttts— one. but because they've got no faith .this system,— one. but because they've got no faith this system, comes faith in this system, it comes town—nost- faith in this system, it comes. down—most people down to ultimately most people are down to ultimately most people good,— down to ultimately most people are good, decent— down to ultimately most people are good, decent people. \»»2» are good, decent people. no one wants— are good, decent people. no one wants-want— are good, decent people. no one would want anyone to be would really want anyone to be suffering way, shape or suffering in any way, shape or form. but i guess it does come to down the uk then take to down should the uk then take on the role, if you like, of the kind of asylum offer for all global conflicts. why stop at sudan?i global conflicts. why stop at sudan? i just mentioned ukraine. we're talking about sudan. where next? because there are awful next? because there are an awful lot of conflicts happening all over world and unfortunately over the world and unfortunately you don't really see the end of them often. and one's pop up all them often. and one's pop up all the time. it feels like doesn't it? your thoughts on that? vaiews@gbnews.uk is how you can reach me the email. let's reach me on the email. let's talk the royals though, shall we? after the break. what do you think, coronation coming up. are you wholeheartedly behind our king? do you think king? yes or do you think actually it's time now ? the actually it's time now? the monarchy has had its day. let's have an elected head of state. see you

defender of liberty. yeah i've oongtototv— defender of liberty. yeah i've completely derailed the conversation _ completely derailed the conversation .- completely derailed the conversation . join me monday to conversation. join me monday to ttarstav— conversation. join me monday to ttarstav at— conversation. join me monday to ttarstav at o— conversation. join me monday to thursday at 8 p.m._

conversation. join me monday to thursday at 8 pm. on. 022 thursday at 8 pm. on. hi there wtotette— thursday at 8 pm. on. hi there michelle dewberry and i'm keeping you company right through till 7:00 tonight. lots of you getting in contact about that last topic as well. i'm asking you, should we have a scheme that's similar if you like, to the ukrainian one for the situation in sudan? and by the situation in sudan? and by the way, if we do that, why would you stop at sudan? why not open up those schemes then for pretty much any conflict in the world? should that be the way forward many of you forward for the uk? many of you pointing out the obvious, which is what we've just mentioned there. mark says . michelle, there. mark says. michelle, where do you think all the infrastructure going come infrastructure is going to come from? houses, schools and doctors the thought is doctors often the thought is just given to how do you get people in with no thoughts to the kind of situation of them living beyond that , simon says, living beyond that, simon says, would absolutely love to help everybody in need from all over the world. but he says , we don't the world. but he says, we don't live in a perfect world. keep your thoughts coming in. i'm going to come on to the coronation before the end of the

programme. i'm want to know whether or not you support the monarchy or whether or not you're in favour of an you're more in favour of an elected head state. but elected head of state. but before i do that, i want talk before i do that, i want to talk about something i know is about something that i know is very to lot of you very passionate to a lot of you at home, which is veterans, all those brave men and women that have put their own lives of have put their own lives kind of on line, really to help keep on the line, really to help keep all of safe as possible. all of us as safe as possible. a story caught my eye of yet another a young lad, 26 another veteran, a young lad, 26 year old josh howie, was year old drew josh howie, was called of three arnie. he called father of three arnie. he very sadly ended his life after feeling was passed from feeling like he was passed from pillar to when it came to pillar to post when it came to getting mental getting help for his mental health. these health. and it really these stories always of stir me stories always kind of stir me inside paul because i look at it and it me with a bit of and it fills me with a bit of shame really, because, yes, i know people struggle and yes, i want everyone to have all the mental care that they mental health care that they need. i know, know, need. and i know, you know, a lot of people don't get that. but something about but there's something about veterans know, they risk veterans you know, they risk their keep to their lives to keep us safe, to protect they're often maimed protect us. they're often maimed and of and i do and all the rest of it. and i do i like we fail them. we do. i feel like we fail them. we do. they're willing to— i feel like we fail them. we do. they're willing to make- 722; l l we do. they're willing to make the

atttnato — they're willing to make the ultimate sacrifice. acas and it states— ultimate sacrifice. acas and it strikes no— ultimate sacrifice. acas and it strikes me that— ultimate sacrifice. acas and it strikes me that we don't treat tton — strikes me that we don't treat tton anvtttng— strikes me that we don't treat them anything as as strikes me that we don't treat- them anything-as-as we them anything like as well as we oagtt— them anything like as well as we oagttltroat— them anything like as well as we ought-treat them— them anything like as well as we ought treat them when they ought to treat them when they arrive-on— ought to treat them when they arrive -on civvy - ought to treat them when they arrive on civvy street. arrive back on civvy street. i noao-ttoso- arrive back on civvy street. i mean, these people are mean, often these people are broken— mean, often these people are broken,-because. mean, often these people are broken,-because the broken, you know, because of the onortonos— broken, you know, because of the experiences-they've- broken, you know, because of the experiences they've gone experiences that they've gone ttroagt — experiences that they've gone i through _traumatic through suffering post traumatic stss— through suffering post traumatic stress disorder— through suffering post traumatic stress disorder. so- through suffering post traumatic stress disorder so on. many stress disorder and so on. many of stress disorder and so on. many ot tton— stress disorder and so on. many of them become _ stress disorder and so on. many of them become homeless and when you of them become homeless and when vow tttnt— of them become homeless and when vow tttnt ot— of them become homeless and when vow tttnt ot tto— of them become homeless and when you think of the skills and the tnowtotgo — you think of the skills and the knowledge and— you think of the skills and the knowledge and the wisdom that now— knowledge and the wisdom that ttov aogatro— knowledge and the wisdom that ttov aogatro to— knowledge and the wisdom that they acquire to in— knowledge and the wisdom that they acquire to in their role as sotttors— they acquire to in their role as sotttors .— they acquire to in their role as soldiers , sailors,— they acquire to in their role as soldiers , sailors, air force or soldiers, sailors, air force or wtatovor— soldiers, sailors, air force or wtatovor .— soldiers, sailors, air force or wtatovor, tt— soldiers, sailors, air force or whatever , it seems to me that whatever, it seems to me that aotaattw— whatever, it seems to me that actually, especially with the stttts— actually, especially with the stttts gap — actually, especially with the skills gap we've got in the country— skills gap we've got in the country at— skills gap we've got in the country at the— skills gap we've got in the country at the moment, that ttoso— country at the moment, that those skills— country at the moment, that those skills that— country at the moment, that those skills that they've got ooatt — those skills that they've got ooatt to — those skills that they've got ooatt to pat— those skills that they've got could be put to— those skills that they've got could be put to such good use in tntastrv— could be put to such good use in industry throughout the wider oononv— industry throughout the wider oononv ant— industry throughout the wider economy and so— industry throughout the wider economy and so on. and also, you know,— economy and so on. and also, you know, career pathways, know, having career pathways, i tttnt— know, having career pathways, i tttnt tnto— know, having career pathways, i think into teaching and things like think into teaching and things ttto ttat. — think into teaching and things ttto ttat. t— think into teaching and things like that. i mean, i think it wont— like that. i mean, i think it woatt to— like that. i mean, i think it would be great— like that. i mean, i think it would be great if veterans were tat— would be great if veterans were tat a— would be great if veterans were tat a verv— would be great if veterans were had a very clear— would be great if veterans were had a very clear career pathway tnto— had a very clear career pathway tnto toaottng— had a very clear career pathway into teaching and— had a very clear career pathway into teaching and then being ntaoot— into teaching and then being gtaoot tn— into teaching and then being placed in some— into teaching and then being placed in some of our perhaps toagt— placed in some of our perhaps our tough inner— placed in some of our perhaps our tough inner city schools wtoro— our tough inner city schools wtoro t— our tough inner city schools where i think— our tough inner city schools where i think they could grotattv— where i think they could probably instil a bit of discipline.— probably instil a bit of discipline. can you imagine? teat.— discipline. can you imagine? veat. tat— discipline. can you imagine? veat. tat vea— discipline. can you imagine? yeah, but you could- discipline. can you imagine? yeah, but you could be- discipline. can you imagine? yeah, but you could be a really good idea. yeah. then can

good idea. yeah. but then can you imagine would happen you imagine what would happen then half the parents are sat then is half the parents are sat crying because their kid is now finally to deal with a finally having to deal with a bit discipline? i don't finally having to deal with a bit discipline? idon't think bit of discipline? i don't think so. bit of discipline? i don't think _aotaattv— bit of discipline? i don't think so. _actually when- bit of discipline? i don't think so. _actually when youi so. i think actually when you speak— so. i think actually when you sneak-parents- so. i think actually when you speak-parents, i- so. i think actually when you speak parents, i think speak to most parents, i think now— speak to most parents, i think ttov tto— speak to most parents, i think they like their— speak to most parents, i think they like their kids to have ttsotnttno— they like their kids to have discipline instilled in schools. i is discipline instilled in schools. t—ts a— discipline instilled in schools. i_is a minority- i think there is a minority oosstttv— i think there is a minority possibly growing minority, possibly a growing minority, ttat— possibly a growing minority,- ttat—ttano that now seeks to always blame the that now seeks to always blame tto sotoot— that now seeks to always blame the school and,— that now seeks to always blame the school and, know, my the school and, you know, my johnny— the school and, you know, my johnny-never-like i johnny would never act like ttat.— johnny would never act like ttat-vow-tvi johnny would never act like- that.-you?-by and that. how dare you? but by and targo— that. how dare you? but by and targo t— that. how dare you? but by and tango t tttnt— that. how dare you? but by and large, i think most— that. how dare you? but by and large, i think most parents stttt— large, i think most parents stttt-ttoa- large, i think most parents still-idea of- still like the idea of discipline- still like the idea of discipline schools like the idea of discipline schools like the idea ot a— discipline schools like the idea of a regimented_ discipline schools like the idea of a regimented nation and think aotaattv— of a regimented nation and think aotaattv tt-s— of a regimented nation and think actually it's good— of a regimented nation and think actually it's good for their ttts— actually it's good for their ttts as— actually it's good for their kids as well. _ actually it's good for their kids as well. ”2; actually it's good for their kids as well. ' ”2; 2 kids as well. are you a veteran at home? do you feel well supported? jim says, i am a military veteran with cpt asd. what is that ? ptsd. i think he what is that? ptsd. i think he means post—traumatic- c217 ptsd. i think he means post—traumatic stress. teat.— means post—traumatic stress. veat. tat— means post—traumatic stress. veat. tat te— means post—traumatic stress. yeah, but he puts— means post—traumatic stress. yeah, but he puts a— means post—traumatic stress. yeah, but he puts a c- means post—traumatic stress. yeah, but he puts a c in- means post—traumatic stress. yeah, but he puts a c in front of it. chronic chronic. right. anyway, he's got ptsd, so chronic post—traumatic stress disorder . he chronic post—traumatic stress disorder. he said he's had it for many years . he does not feel for many years. he does not feel at all like he's supported. he says we've served our country and he feels like he gets a kick in the teeth in return. that's

jim . charlotte, your thoughts ? jim. charlotte, your thoughts? i mean, i would agree with what tanta— i mean, i would agree with what taata sata— i mean, i would agree with what taata satt .— i mean, i would agree with what paula said . and— i mean, i would agree with what paula said . and michelle, you're paula said. and michelle, you're savtng— paula said. and michelle, you're savtng, wttot— paula said. and michelle, you're savtng, wttot ts— paula said. and michelle, you're saying, which is that these are rootsto— saying, which is that these are googto wto-vo— saying, which is that these are people who've literally been wttttng— people who've literally been wttttng to— people who've literally been wttttng to tav— people who've literally been willing to lay down their lives for willing to lay down their lives tor or— willing to lay down their lives for our safety— willing to lay down their lives for our safety freedom. what towovor— for our safety freedom. what tovvovor vow — for our safety freedom. what however you want to put it , for our safety freedom. what however you want to put it, and, you— however you want to put it, and, you know,— however you want to put it, and, you know, vow— however you want to put it, and, you know, you read— however you want to put it, and, you know, you read these stories tto— you know, you read these stories ttto ttts— you know, you read these stories ttto ttts young— you know, you read these stories like this young father , and it's like this young father, and it's heartbreaking. _ like this young father, and it's heartbreaking. it's heartbreaking. it's heartbreaking that that didn't noot— heartbreaking that that didn't noot to— heartbreaking that that didn't need to happen.— heartbreaking that that didn't need to happen. if the services tat— need to happen. if the services tat toen— need to happen. if the services tat toon tn— need to happen. if the services had been in place,— need to happen. if the services had been in place, if he'd been atto— had been in place, if he'd been atto to— had been in place, if he'd been atto to act— had been in place, if he'd been able to act, you— had been in place, if he'd been able to act, you know, he he aottvotv— able to act, you know, he he actively tried _ able to act, you know, he he actively tried to— able to act, you know, he he actively tried to seek support . actively tried to seek support. vow— actively tried to seek support. you know,— actively tried to seek support. you know, this— actively tried to seek support. you know, this wasn't this wast— you know, this wasn't this wasn't someone that's a very trave— wasn't someone that's a very brave tttng— wasn't someone that's a very brave thing to— wasn't someone that's a very brave thing to do, by the way, is brave thing to do, by the way, ts ant— brave thing to do, by the way, is and particularly, i think pertains— is and particularly, i think portags tt— is and particularly, i think portags tt vow— is and particularly, i think perhaps if you come from a sttgtttv— perhaps if you come from a sttgtttv t— perhaps if you come from a slightly i don't— perhaps if you come from a slightly i don't know the circumstances- slightly i don't know the circumstances of this individual,- circumstances of this individual, but, you know, maybe you individual, but, you know, maybe vow—norol you come from a slightly more naoto— you come from a slightly more natoo—r- you come from a slightly more macho _or maybe i you come from a slightly more- macho _or maybe that's macho background or maybe that's not-tatt— macho background or maybe that's not-tatt-voar- not you don't talk about your toottngs. — not you don't talk about your toottngs. ant— not you don't talk about your feelings. and it's— not you don't talk about your feelings. and it's not to aotaattv— feelings. and it's not to actually reach- feelings. and it's not to actually reach and say, i actually reach out and say, i tttnt— actually reach out and say, i tttnt tn— actually reach out and say, i think i'mldanger- actually reach out and say, i think i'm danger myself. think i'm a danger to myself. tn— think i'm a danger to myself. t-n-straggttng- think i'm a danger to myself. i'm struggling that i'm really struggling that i mean,.shows_ i'm really struggling that i mean, shows huge courage to mean, it shows huge courage to do mean, it shows huge courage to to-tton— mean, it shows huge courage to to-tton to— mean, it shows huge courage to do-then to find- mean, it shows huge courage to do then to find that do that. and then to find that you— do that. and then to find that you-somewhere— do that. and then to find that you somewhere and say,

you go somewhere and they say, oh, you go somewhere and they say, on-to— you go somewhere and they say, on-to soo— you go somewhere and they say, oh,-to see someone. you go somewhere and they say, oh, to see someone else oh, you need to see someone else ant— oh, you need to see someone else ant tton— oh, you need to see someone else ant tton-tota— oh, you need to see someone else and then-told, oh— oh, you need to see someone else and then-told, oh no,- oh, you need to see someone else and then told, oh no, you and then be told, oh no, you noot— and then be told, oh no, you nootlsoo— and then be told, oh no, you need see someone and need to see someone else. and vow— need to see someone else. and you inst— need to see someone else. and you inst tttnt— need to see someone else. and you just think it— need to see someone else. and you just think it is— you just think it is demoralising it's you just think it is— demoralising-it's enough. demoralising and it's enough. it's demoralising and it's enough. tt-s-teoaase- demoralising and it's enough. it's-becauselthink. it's enough. because i think that of asking for that first step of asking for help, quite a big step. and help, it's quite a big step. and i think if you don't get, you know, like almost like honest response immediately, if you don't i think it don't get understood, i think it can people, make can for a lot of people, make you like recoil inside you like recoil back inside and go you what like don't go do you know what like don't worry about it kind thing. worry about it kind of thing. and then inward you go which is not a good to be. i just not a good place to be. i just want just reflect slightly, want to just reflect slightly, though, particular case though, on this particular case in the reporting it says in that the reporting of it says that young man that the young man had a breakdown he still in breakdown whilst he was still in the forces that he or he had the forces and that he or he had tried. he had suggested himself that tried. he had suggested himself ttat pertains— tried. he had suggested himself ttat portags to— 22 he had suggested himself that perhaps he suffering that perhaps he was suffering tron— that perhaps he was suffering tron tnst— that perhaps he was suffering from ptsd and— that perhaps he was suffering from ptsd and he hadn't been gtvon— from ptsd and he hadn't been gtvon a— from ptsd and he hadn't been given a diagnosis— from ptsd and he hadn't been given a diagnosis. from ptsd and he hadn't been given a diagnosis . clearly, he given a diagnosis. clearly, he wast— given a diagnosis. clearly, he wasn-t-at— given a diagnosis. clearly, he wasn't-at that- given a diagnosis. clearly, he wasn't at that point to wasn't referred at that point to the wasn't referred at that point to tto rtgtt— wasn't referred at that point to the right services— wasn't referred at that point to the right services and support. so the right services and support. so ttts— the right services and support. so ttts tsn-t— the right services and support. so this isn't just,— the right services and support. so this isn't just, you know, at ttat— so this isn't just, you know, at ttat nont— so this isn't just, you know, at ttat porn, to— so this isn't just, you know, at that point, he he— so this isn't just, you know, at that point, he he he was that point, he he was he was aottvotv— that point, he he was he was aottvotv-tto- that point, he he was he was actively the country and actively serving the country and content— actively serving the country and couldn't access— actively serving the country and couldn't access the support, ntnt— couldn't access the support, never mind having been having left never mind having been having tott tto— never mind having been having left the services— never mind having been having left the services ,_ never mind having been having left the services , being left the services, being ex—military_ left the services, being ex—military and needing to do ttat— ex—military and needing to do that transition— ex—military and needing to do that transition in— ex—military and needing to do that transition in to civilian

tto— that transition in to civilian life - access— that transition in to civilian life access services . so life and access services. so i tttnt— life and access services. so i tttnt tt-s— life and access services. so i think it's more— life and access services. so i think it's more than just post sorvtng. — think it's more than just post sorvtng. t— think it's more than just post serving. i think— think it's more than just post serving. i think it's also about now— serving. i think it's also about how we're supporting people totoro— how we're supporting people totoro ttov— how we're supporting people before they-and- how we're supporting people before they and making before they leave and making sure-tavo— before they leave and making sure-have the— before they leave and making sure have the services. sure they have the services. i tttn— sure they have the services. i think, charlie,— sure they have the services. i think, charlie, there's- sure they have the services. i think, charlie, there's a- think, charlie, there's a there's danger nowadays there's a danger that nowadays we simply don't recognise when somebody has a serious clinical mental health problem because the whole thing around mental health, this is slightly wider debate . mental health has debate. mental health has become, you know, mental health conditions have become so ubiquitous now it's almost like a fashion accessory, you know, normal everyday feelings are being categorised as mental health deficiencies and so when you do have a genuine case like this come along, someone with clinical mental health problems, how distinguish between how do you distinguish between that somebody who claims to that and somebody who claims to but doesn't doesn't really? i think that's problem us. think that's a problem for us. gareth. says, hey, team, gareth. gareth says, hey, team, tn— gareth. gareth says, hey, team, t-n a— gareth. gareth says, hey, team, t-n avotoa— gareth. gareth says, hey, team, i'm a veteran and— gareth. gareth says, hey, team, i'm a veteran and a teacher toro— i'm a veteran and a teacher here-discipline- i'm a veteran and a teacher here. discipline does here. he says discipline does not— here. he says discipline does not wort.— here. he says discipline does not wort. tt-s— here. he says discipline does not work. it's a— here. he says discipline does not work. it's a wild world out ttoro— not work. it's a wild world out ttoro to— not work. it's a wild world out ttoro to saws.— not work. it's a wild world out there, he says. an— not work. it's a wild world out there, he says. an education and there, he says. an education and tto parents— there, he says. an education and the parents don't— there, he says. an education and the parents don't like it . he the parents don't like it. he sat— the parents don't like it. he satt tto— the parents don't like it. he said the kids— the parents don't like it. he said the kids say certain words

ttat— said the kids say certain words ttat t— said the kids say certain words ttat t oan-t— said the kids say certain words that i can't repeat— said the kids say certain words that i can't repeat at tea time, tat— that i can't repeat at tea time, tat to-s— that i can't repeat at tea time, tat no not— that i can't repeat at tea time, but he's not having a good oponono— but he's not having a good experience, is— but he's not having a good experience, is gareth? he says to-s— experience, is gareth? he says no now— experience, is gareth? he says no novot— experience, is gareth? he says he's now moved on. 41.22; experience, is gareth? he says he's now moved on. 4122; he's now moved on. you're from so they must be bad if you can't read. don't met my eyes water. t-n — read. don't met my eyes water. t-n inst— read. don't met my eyes water. t-n inst tong— 2 don't met my eyes water. i'm just being protective of my aattonoo— i'm just being protective of my audience who— i'm just being protective of my audience who might having tea audience who might be having tea wttt— audience who might be having tea wttt-ttts.— audience who might be having tea wttt-ttts. so— audience who might be having tea with-kids. so-it's- with their kids. so no, it's not.— with their kids. so no, it's not. tt— with their kids. so no, it's not. it-bother- with their kids. so no, it's not. it bother me. i've not. it don't bother me. i've sata— not. it don't bother me. i've satt tar— not. it don't bother me. i've said far worse. _ not. it don't bother me. i've said far worse. i— not. it don't bother me. i've said far worse. i can assure vow.— said far worse. i can assure vow-votorans- said far worse. i can assure you. veterans. more you. anyway veterans. more respect—ant- you. anyway veterans. more respect—and allj you. anyway veterans. more - respect—and all the respect for veterans and all the ponstronos— respect for veterans and all the ponstronos .— respect for veterans and all the pensioners , says— respect for veterans and all the pensioners , says richard as pensioners, says richard as wett— pensioners, says richard as wet. wtat— pensioners, says richard as well. what about them? they all toagtt— well. what about them? they all toagtt tor— well. what about them? they all toagtt tor or— well. what about them? they all fought for our freedoms, he says as wett— fought for our freedoms, he says as wott .— fought for our freedoms, he says as wott . tooo— fought for our freedoms, he says as well . keep your— fought for our freedoms, he says as well . keep your thoughts as well. keep your thoughts oontng— as well. keep your thoughts oontng tn— as well. keep your thoughts oontng tn on— as well. keep your thoughts coming in on that one. george saws.— coming in on that one. george savs. t— coming in on that one. george savs. t an— coming in on that one. george savs. t an a— coming in on that one. george says. i am a veteran and i've tat— says. i am a veteran and i've tat no— says. i am a veteran and i've tat no support— says. i am a veteran and i've had no support at— says. i am a veteran and i've had no support at all and i ton-t— had no support at all and i ton-t want— had no support at all and i don't want to _ had no support at all and i don't want to live anymore, he says.— don't want to live anymore, he says. tvo— don't want to live anymore, he says. to tat— don't want to live anymore, he says. i've had enough, george. ttat— says. i've had enough, george. ttat natos— says. i've had enough, george. that makes me— says. i've had enough, george. that makes me very sad indeed. ant— that makes me very sad indeed. ant t— that makes me very sad indeed. ant t tttnt— that makes me very sad indeed. and i think kudos— that makes me very sad indeed. and i think kudos for you too, for admitting— and i think kudos for you too, for admitting you— and i think kudos for you too, for admitting you feel like ttat.— for admitting you feel like ttat. ant— for admitting you feel like ttat. ant t— for admitting you feel like that. and i do— for admitting you feel like that. and i do hope that you can try ant— that. and i do hope that you can try ant got— that. and i do hope that you can try ant got tott.— that. and i do hope that you can try and get help. i've been in ttat— try and get help. i've been in ttat-tt-s— try and get help. i've been in ttat-tt-s-a- try and get help. i've been in that-it's-a nice- that place. it's not a nice placer— that place. it's not a nice gtaoo-t— that place. it's not a nice place,-i lived- that place. it's not a nice place,-i lived to- that place. it's not a nice. place,-i lived to .the place, and i lived to tell the tate— place, and i lived to tell the tato so— place, and i lived to tell the tale so things— place, and i lived to tell the tale so things can change and tttngs— tale so things can change and tttngs an— tale so things can change and tttngs got— tale so things can change and things can get better. someone otso— things can get better. someone otso tas— things can get better. someone else has-been— things can get better. someone else has-been in- things can get better. someone else has been in touch else has just been in touch savtng— else has just been in touch savtng tto— else has just been in touch savtng tto c— else has just been in touch saying the c in— else has just been in touch saying the c in we just saying the c in what we just sat— saying the c in what we just said earlier,— saying the c in what we just said earlier, stands for said earlier, it stands for oonntov— said earlier, it stands for complex-albiel said earlier, it stands for. complex-albie you said earlier, it stands for- complex-albie you learn complex apparent albie you learn sonotttng—tav.- something new every day. that's wttt—

something new every day. that's wttt-inst— something new every day. that's will-just corrected- something new every day. that's will just corrected us. will that's just corrected us. ttoro—gong- will that's just corrected us. ttoro—gong toi will that's just corrected us. - there—going to take will that's just corrected us. - tiquick_going to take will that's just corrected us. tiquick break. going to take will that's just corrected us. tiquick break. when)ing to take will that's just corrected us. tiquick break. when)ingcomeke a quick break. when we come tact.— a quick break. when we come tact-ot— a quick break. when we come tact-on vow— a quick break. when we come back, of your thoughts. but back, more of your thoughts. but atso— back, more of your thoughts. but atso tot-s— back, more of your thoughts. but atso tot-s got— back, more of your thoughts. but also let's get into— back, more of your thoughts. but also let's get into the royal, statt— also let's get into the royal, statt woo— also let's get into the royal, shall we? that's— also let's get into the royal, shall we? that's positive, isn't it? shall we? that's positive, isn't to ugtttttng— shall we? that's positive, isn't it? uplifting weekend? it? uplifting this weekend? no, it's it? uplifting this weekend? no, tt-s—novti it's not this weekend. it's next wootont— it's not this weekend. it's next wean-re..- it's not this weekend. it's next weekend,-yes. the. weekend, isn't it? yes. the coronation.— weekend, isn't it.7 yes. the coronation. wishing my time coronation. i'm wishing my time away.— coronation. i'm wishing my time away-king.— coronation. i'm wishing my time away-kinglyou- coronation. i'm wishing my time away.-king..you sit- coronation. i'm wishing my time away. king. you sit there away. the king. do you sit there and— away. the king. do you sit there and-you— away. the king. do you sit there and-you going— away. the king. do you sit there and-you going to— away. the king. do you sit there and you going to have and are you going to have parties— and are you going to have parties and— and are you going to have parties and-the- and are you going to have parties and the rest of it parties and all the rest of it raise— parties and all the rest of it raiselgiass— parties and all the rest of it raiselglass or— parties and all the rest of it raise glass or you sit raise a glass or do you sit iiieie— raise a glass or do you sit mere-go,— raise a glass or do you sit there-go, what- raise a glass or do you sit there go, what a waste of there and go, what a waste of my — there and go, what a waste of my give— there and go, what a waste of money. give i an _ there and go, what a waste of money. give an elected head money. give us an elected head of money. give us an elected head oi sim— money. give us an elected head oi oioio. ioii— money. give us an elected head of state. tell me— money. give us an elected head of state. tell me your thoughts

hi there. i'm michelle dewberry oni— hi there. i'm michelle dewberry and im— hi there. i'm michelle dewberry and im keeping— hi there. i'm michelle dewberry and i'm keeping you company uniii— and i'm keeping you company uniii mo— and i'm keeping you company until 7:00 tonight. charlotte iiokioo— until 7:00 tonight. charlotte iioiioo io— until 7:00 tonight. charlotte pickles is the— until 7:00 tonight. charlotte pickles is the director of iooimi — pickles is the director of reform think— pickles is the director of reform think tank and paul iiioppo— reform think tank and paul iiioppo io— reform think tank and paul iiioppo is iso— reform think tank and paul mbappe is the firefighter and an oonoo.— mbappe is the firefighter and an ouiioi. ii— mbappe is the firefighter and an ouiioi. ii was— mbappe is the firefighter and an author. it was all— mbappe is the firefighter and an author. it was all going on in iso— author. it was all going on in is ioiios— author. it was all going on in the ladies and— author. it was all going on in the ladies and gents because ioui— the ladies and gents because ioui emory-s— the ladies and gents because paul embry's mate sent a text mossoog— paul embry's mate sent a text mossoog in— paul embry's mate sent a text message in asking charlotte out on o ooos.— message in asking charlotte out on o ioio. ii— message in asking charlotte out on a date. it was— message in asking charlotte out on a date. it was all going on, ooso-i— on a date. it was all going on, wosi-i iii— on a date. it was all going on, wasn't it.7 charlotte polite, i'm

wouii— wasn't it.7 charlotte polite, i'm sure, would be— wasn't it.7 charlotte polite, i'm sure, would be delighted to . sure, would be delighted to. just- — sure, would be delighted to. just. just _ sure, would be delighted to. just. just. yeah.— sure, would be delighted to. yeah. what's your just. just. yeah. what's your iiioni-s— just. just. yeah. what's your friend's name? _ just. just. yeah. what's your friend's name? my- yeah. what's your friend's name? rig just. just. yeah. what's your- friend's name? my mate's name is joe and i should say to joe, god bless him, she said yes if she wasn't otherwise engaged. fortunately. so, so has to be a no. but i admire your bottle. i do.joe no. but i admire your bottle. i do. joe said she's up for it, by iso— do. joe said she's up for it, by is wav- — do. joe said she's up for it, by is wav- n0,— do. joe said she's up for it, by the way. no, she— do. joe said she's up for it, by the way. no, she didn't . she the way. no, she didn't. she said— the way. no, she didn't. she said i— the way. no, she didn't. she said i admired— the way. no, she didn't. she said i admired his bottle sogmoni— said i admired his bottle sogmoni oi— said i admired his bottle segment at the end of the show doing— segment at the end of the show ooiing sogmoni— segment at the end of the show dating segment for people to kind— dating segment for people to kind oi,— dating segment for people to kind oi, you— dating segment for people to kind of, you know, message in oni— kind of, you know, message in and-matchmaker,- kind of, you know, message in and matchmaker, that's good and say, matchmaker, that's good .sioii— and say, matchmaker, that's good news-sioii i— and say, matchmaker, that's good news.-shall i move- and say, matchmaker, that's good news. shall i move on then news. yes. shall i move on then oni— news. yes. shall i move on then and—whoo— news. yes. shall i move on then oni—wioi im- and actually do what i'm supposed— and actually do what i'm supposed doing and actually do what i'm supposed-doing than supposed to be doing rather than soiiino— supposed to be doing rather than soiiing everybody— supposed to be doing rather than setting everybody up? apparently only setting everybody up? apparently oniy s— setting everybody up? apparently oniy s in— setting everybody up? apparently oniy s in io— setting everybody up? apparently only 3 in 10 britons think that monarchy— only 3 in 10 britons think that monarchy important . just monarchy is very important. just 3 monarchy is very important. just s in— monarchy is very important. just s in io. — monarchy is very important. just s in io. i— monarchy is very important. just sin io. i iiink— monarchy is very important. just 3 in 10. i think that's quite iow. — 3 in 10. i think that's quite iow. oo— 3 in 10. i think that's quite iow. do you— 3 in 10. i think that's quite low. do you agree with that? appoioniiy— low. do you agree with that? appoioniiy ii-s— low. do you agree with that? apparently it's all about iiiioioni— apparently it's all about different generations, of 18 different generations, 12% of 18 to different generations, 12% of 18 io si— different generations, 12% of 18 io so yooi— different generations, 12% of 18 to 34 year olds_ different generations, 12% of 18 to 34 year olds believe they're very— to 34 year olds believe they're very impoiioni— to 34 year olds believe they're very important compared with 42% of very important compared with 42% oi iioso— very important compared with 42% oi iiioso aged— very important compared with 42% oi iiioso aged 55— very important compared with 42% of those aged 55 and older , to of those aged 55 and older, to whom — of those aged 55 and older, to whom i— of those aged 55 and older, to whom i shall— of those aged 55 and older, to whom i shall start with you, ioni— whom i shall start with you, ioui mbappe— whom i shall start with you, paul mbappe i've poured myself a pososoo im— paul mbappe i've poured myself a prosecco. i'm getting into the coronoiion— prosecco. i'm getting into the coronation spirit— prosecco. i'm getting into the coronation spirit a little bit ooiiy— coronation spirit a little bit ooiiy .— coronation spirit a little bit soiiy . aro— coronation spirit a little bit soiiy . are you— coronation spirit a little bit early . are you into the early. are you into the coronation,— early. are you into the coronation, into the royals ? no, coronation, into the royals? no, i

coronation, into the royals? no, iwon-i— coronation, into the royals? no, iwon-i mini— coronation, into the royals? no, iwon't mind the— coronation, into the royals? no, i won't mind the coronation. i iwon't mind the coronation. i i— iwon't mind the coronation. i i ion-i— iwon't mind the coronation. i mean, i don't mind— iwon't mind the coronation. i mean, i don't mind these- i won't mind the coronation. i mean, i don't mind these sorts of events. i think they are quite unifying. i'm not a royalist. i do describe myself. get out. i say no, that prosecco is going to come out. i was literally i've just— gt» 9 i was literally i've just poured an iso— literally i've just poured an iso drink.— literally i've just poured an iso drink. i— literally i've just poured an ice drink. i was— literally i've just poured an ice drink. i was about to get inio— ice drink. i was about to get inio ii.— ice drink. i was about to get inio ii. oi,— ice drink. i was about to get inio ii. oi, i— ice drink. i was about to get into it. oh, | do— ice drink. i was about to get into it. oh, i do describe mysoii— into it. oh, i do describe mysoii os— into it. oh, i do describe mysoii as o— into it. oh, i do describe myself as a republican, but a very— myself as a republican, but a very misi— myself as a republican, but a very niii one— myself as a republican, but a very mild one, actually. " very mild one, actually. i mean, ine— very mild one, actually. i mean, i-ve noining— very mild one, actually. i mean, i've nothing personally against the royal family. they not the royal family. they do not have of life that i have the sort of life that i would like for all luxury would like for all the luxury and splendour the pomp and and splendour and the pomp and the of having that the privilege of having that kind existence kind of goldfish bowl existence is not one that i would particularly want . i just think, particularly want. i just think, you a in a grown up you know, in a in a grown up democracy, you should be allowed to elect your head of state. i think we should have the freedom to in britain the to do that in britain in the same they do elsewhere. same way that they do elsewhere. i ultimately think that i don't ultimately think that realistically it makes a huge amount of difference you're realistically it makes a huge aryou're)f difference you're realistically it makes a huge aryou're aniifference you're realistically it makes a huge aryou're an advanced you're realistically it makes a huge aryou're an advanced democracy if you're an advanced democracy and your country kind of functions in a proper way, arguably ours doesn't at the moment. i don't think it makes a huge difference whether you're a monarchy or a republic. you can look at you can compare, for example, some countries,

example, some western countries, denmark, a monarchy, denmark, which is a monarchy, iceland, they're both iceland, which is they're both relatively stable, relatively peaceful, democratic peaceful, relatively democratic countries and still would be if they swapped their republics in kind of governance with their monarchical government. so let's elect our head of state. and if charles wants to stand in that election, let him. well, i was just about to ask you, who would you have? but anyway, before i do you have? but anyway, before i no inan— you have? but anyway, before i do that, charlotte— , but anyway, before i do that, charlotte thoughts. i'm a do that, charlotte thoughts. i'm oioioi— do that, charlotte thoughts. i'm a total- because - do that, charlotte thoughts. i'm a total-because in- do that, charlotte thoughts. i'm a total because in any a total hypocrite because in any one— a total hypocrite because in any one noin— a total hypocrite because in any one one oi— a total hypocrite because in any other walk of life,— a total hypocrite because in any other walk of life, i— a total hypocrite because in any other walk of life, i would say you— other walk of life, i would say you nove— other walk of life, i would say you nove io— other walk of life, i would say you have to earn— other walk of life, i would say you have to earn your position in—nni— you have to earn your position in—nni i- you have to earn your position in—nni i on- in something. but i am definitely a royalist and i can't really why it is can't work out really why it is ihave can't work out really why it is i have this sort of internal conflict, but i think it is something to with the something to do with the fact that such part of the that it's such a part of the kind of national identity for me. i think it is a bit me. and i think it is a bit different. you know, we had obviously the for so long obviously the queen for so long and was such a big, you and she was such a big, you know, everybody would be able to remember that remember different things that happened. that happened. and, you know, that that obviously not that she was obviously not a direct but you know direct part of but you know moments in where she was moments in time where she was present and i think that is important unifying the important for unifying the country. you think of country. you know, you think of the of the

the jubilees, you think of the marriage, the royal marriages, things like that. they they really moment the really are a moment for the whole nation come together. whole nation to come together. and i'm not going get an and i'm not going to get an inviioiion— and i'm not going to get an invitation-the— and i'm not going to get an invitation the coronation. invitation to the coronation. ioeoiiye— invitation to the coronation. ioeoiiye-s— invitation to the coronation. really?->iwas- invitation to the coronation. really?->iwas quite really? yeah > i was doing quite well. i would say, well. never what i would say, though i do not understand though, is i do not understand the argument of saying, even if you rid of the you want to get rid of the monarchy, which absolutely monarchy, which i absolutely categorically not, i still categorically do not, i still don't get the idea of why you then want to have an elected head of state, because why wouldn't you just essentially say that's what the prime minister just think minister is? i just don't think it minister is? i just don't think ii-nnen— minister is? i just don't think ii-nnen oi— minister is? i just don't think it-much of you- minister is? i just don't think it-much of you are- minister is? i just don't think- it-much of you are getting it makes much of you are getting in ionen. — it makes much of you are getting in ionen. .snys— it makes much of you are getting in ionen. .snys .— it makes much of you are getting in touch. its?" in touch. eric says, please, can we keep the monarchy because they non political. do you they are non political. do you think says basically think that glenn says basically we cannot class ourselves as a true democracy until got true democracy until we've got a democratically elected president ? lots of you are saying that basically you see that the royals are basically the fabric of this country. royals are basically the fabric of this country . and without it, of this country. and without it, i mean, well, what would we become? some of you are asking erg louise said we would be aquatic. well, we would be a poor country. they don't have any— poor country. they don't have any connoi— poor country. they don't have any control over— poor country. they don't have any control over over-

itizzi. they don't have any control over over decisions in ooiiiies— any control over over decisions in ooiiiies — any control over over decisions in politics or. well,- any control over over decisions in politics or. viii“ " in politics or. well, i mean, the monarch in this country still has power in the sense of being able to declare war sign treaties, appoint bishops and lords and so on. and it's true that that's devolved to the prime minister through the royal prerogative. but if they have no power, why are we keeping them? because figurehead, because it's that figurehead, right? it's unifying right? it's that unifying figurehead. _ right? it's that unifying figurehead. you- ” q7 it's that unifying figurehead. you these figurehead. you get these nonieiini— figurehead. you get these wonderful moments when the connin— wonderful moments when the country-together- wonderful moments when the country together and, country comes together and, you know,— country comes together and, you know,_p...y. - country comes together and, you know,_p...y. nie- know, can throw a party. we ion-i— know, can throw a party. we don't-eurovision- know, can throw a party. we don't eurovision for that. don't need eurovision for that. vie-ve— don't need eurovision for that. iie-ve goi— don't need eurovision for that. iie-ve goi ine— don't need eurovision for that. we've got the monarchy. yes 5 we've got the monarchy. yes > wein— we've got the monarchy. yes > vieii. con.— we've got the monarchy. yes > well, com-started - we've got the monarchy. yes > well, com-started the- well, con, you started the program, i was program, roe v wade. i was saying, is there anything positive going on? there you go. yes, have a party, can't yes, you can have a party, can't you? coronation. are you? the coronation. are you going parties? going to have street parties? i will up in hull for the will be up in hull for the actual coronation, but we will be near buckingham palace at buckingham i say, buckingham palace, i should say, next treat for us, next week. what a treat for us, everyone. i hope you're going to join there. i hope you join us there. i hope you noven-i— join us there. i hope you noven-i goi— join us there. i hope you haven't got the- " as cm; i hope you haven't got the republican " gig: signg i hope you haven't got the republican with you. — haven't got the republican with you. -i-n— haven't got the republican with you. -i-nn inking- haven't got the republican with you. _i'm taking i'm- haven't got the republican withi you. _i'm taking i'm going you. yeah, i'm taking i'm going to i'm going to ban to ban him. me? i'm going to ban him. says, are all him. albie says, where are all these come from, by the these surveys come from, by the way? i've never been asked. ali

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sien— saturday morning a fairly dreary sion io— saturday morning a fairly dreary sion io ine— saturday morning a fairly dreary start to the day,— saturday morning a fairly dreary start to the day, actually. a ioi— start to the day, actually. a ioi oi— start to the day, actually. a ioi oi ion— start to the day, actually. a lot of low cloud,- start to the day, actually. a lot of low cloud, some mistiness oonno— lot of low cloud, some mistiness oonno eseni— lot of low cloud, some mistiness around western coasts, but inioni— around western coasts, but inioni .— around western coasts, but inioni . ani— around western coasts, but inland . and as— around western coasts, but inland . and as temperatures inland. and as temperatures rise— inland. and as temperatures ine— inland. and as temperatures rise, the cloud— inland. and as temperatures rise, the cloud will lift . it rise, the cloud will lift. it wiri— rise, the cloud will lift. it will brighten _ rise, the cloud will lift. it will brighten up. there'll be some sunshine— will brighten up. there'll be some sunshine coming through, however, as temperatures rise, esoeeioiiy— however, as temperatures rise, especially northern ireland especially for northern ireland oni— especially for northern ireland and ions— especially for northern ireland and pans oi— especially for northern ireland and parts of wales, the west iiiiionis— and parts of wales, the west midlands,-could- and parts of wales, the west midlands, could be some midlands, there could be some sion— slow moving showers, some thunderstorms— slow moving showers, some. thunderstorms-hail. slow moving showers, some- thunderstorms-hail. so thunderstorms and some hail. so weren— thunderstorms and some hail. so noien oni— thunderstorms and some hail. so noien our ior— thunderstorms and some hail. so watch out for those— thunderstorms and some hail. so watch out for those during saturday— watch out for those during saturday afternoon in away from inose— saturday afternoon in away from inose areas— saturday afternoon in away from those areas actually , scotland those areas actually, scotland oni— those areas actually, scotland one-ingioni- those areas actually, scotland and-england stay. those areas actually, scotland and england stay cold and northern england stay cold and northern england stay cold one generoiiy— and northern england stay cold and generally grey, but mostly in.— and generally grey, but mostly in. ann— and generally grey, but mostly dry. and towards— and generally grey, but mostly dry. and towards the south—east, ire-ii— dry. and towards the south—east, ire-ii see— dry. and towards the south—east, ire-ii some— dry. and towards the south—east, we'll see some warm sunshine. nui— we'll see some warm sunshine. our inro— we'll see some warm sunshine. but into saturday— we'll see some warm sunshine. but into saturday night, most pieces— but into saturday night, most pioees runn— but into saturday night, most places turn cloudy once again. ani— places turn cloudy once again. and os— places turn cloudy once again. and as ine— places turn cloudy once again. and as the cloud— places turn cloudy once again. and as the cloud thickens up iron— and as the cloud thickens up iron ine— and as the cloud thickens up from the west,— and as the cloud thickens up from the west, bringing with it misi— from the west, bringing with it nisi oni— from the west, bringing with it mist and murk,_ from the west, bringing with it mist and murk, we'll also see oniireons— mist and murk, we'll also see outbreaks of— mist and murk, we'll also see outbreaks of rain— mist and murk, we'll also see outbreaks of rain on and off. rein— outbreaks of rain on and off. ionin yes— outbreaks of rain on and off. iioin, yes ini— outbreaks of rain on and off. rain, yes, but never the less a ioiriy— rain, yes, but never the less a ioiriy nei— rain, yes, but never the less a fairly wet start— rain, yes, but never the less a fairly wet start to _ rain, yes, but never the less a fairly wet start to sunday across western - fairly wet start to sunday across western parts of the uk, esgeeioiiy— across western parts of the uk, especially western _ across western parts of the uk, especially western scotland , especially western scotland, nnere— especially western scotland, nnere ii-s— especially western scotland, where it's going— especially western scotland, where it's going to be persistent— where it's going to be persistent first thing. and as inor— persistent first thing. and as no rain— persistent first thing. and as that rain moves— persistent first thing. and as that rain moves north eastwards, it's that rain moves north eastwards, is going— that rain moves north eastwards, is going io— that rain moves north eastwards, is going ro stav— that rain moves north eastwards, it's going to stay damp across ine— it's going to stay damp across ine nonn— it's going to stay damp across ine nonn oi— it's going to stay damp across the north of scotland through neon— the north of scotland through neon oi— the north of scotland through neon oi ine— the north of scotland through much of the afternoon. elsewhere the much of the afternoon. elsewhere ine rein— much of the afternoon. elsewhere the rain breaking— much of the afternoon. elsewhere the rain breaking up into nowers— the rain breaking up into showers and— the rain breaking up into showers and there'll be some

sion— showers and there'll be some sion moving— showers and there'll be some slow moving downpours once again— slow moving downpours once again-nonnernl again, especially northern and weserni— again, especially northern and western-, wales- again, especially northern and western , wales and western england, wales and women— western england, wales and northern monday's northern ireland. monday's sowern— northern ireland. monday's sowern is— northern ireland. monday's shower is mainly the shower is mainly affect the sonineosi.— shower is mainly affect the southeast. it's— shower is mainly affect the southeast. it's going warm southeast. it's going to be warm agein— southeast. it's going to be warm ogoin .—

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