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welcome to mark dolan. tonight thte-ttt he— welcome to mark dolan. tonight this-i'll be asking- welcome to mark dolan. tonight this i'll be asking the this evening, i'll be asking the ee—teuhtet— this evening, i'll be asking the co—founder.vote_ this evening, i'll be asking the co—founder vote leave, co—founder of vote leave, toughe— co—founder of vote leave, douglas carswell brexit douglas carswell is brexit hhteh— douglas carswell is brexit britain proving the doubters wronge— britain proving the doubters wrong? te— britain proving the doubters wrong? is rishi_ britain proving the doubters wrong? is rishi sunak right to teueet— wrong? is rishi sunak right to eueet te— wrong? is rishi sunak right to refuse to apologise for slavery ent— refuse to apologise for slavery and entertain— refuse to apologise for slavery and entertain the— refuse to apologise for slavery and entertain the idea of reparations— and entertain the idea of reparations ?_ and entertain the idea of reparations ? also, we'll hear reparations? also, we'll hear them— reparations? also, we'll hear them heth — reparations? also, we'll hear from both sides— reparations? also, we'll hear from both sides on that debate. what-e— from both sides on that debate. what-e tem— from both sides on that debate. what's your view— from both sides on that debate. what's your view ?_ from both sides on that debate. what's your view ? would four what's your view? would four yeete et— what's your view? would four more years of joe— what's your view? would four more years of joe biden be good or more years of joe biden be good et het— more years of joe biden be good et het tet— more years of joe biden be good or bad for britain?— more years of joe biden be good or bad for britain? is he up to the— or bad for britain? is he up to the job?— or bad for britain? is he up to the job? wett— or bad for britain? is he up to the job? we'll be— or bad for britain? is he up to the job? we'll be asking amehee-e— the job? we'll be asking america's top- the job? we'll be asking america's top doctor in my big ehhtem — america's top doctor in my big ehmtem the— america's top doctor in my big opinion. the bbc— america's top doctor in my big opinion. the bbc is losing their eehmehh— opinion. the bbc is losing their eehmehh hut— opinion. the bbc is losing their chairman, but that's the least of chairman, but that's the least et theh— chairman, but that's the least of their problems. my reaction to of their problems. my reaction te the— of their problems. my reaction to the bombshell— of their problems. my reaction to the bombshell departure today of to the bombshell departure today et the— to the bombshell departure today et the teet— to the bombshell departure today of the beeb boss,— to the bombshell departure today of the beeb boss, richard sharp in of the beeb boss, richard sharp th the— of the beeb boss, richard sharp th the big— of the beeb boss, richard sharp th the big stem— of the beeb boss, richard sharp in the big story, our changes to gemhthe— in the big story, our changes to gemhtmg mtee— in the big story, our changes to gambling rules ,_ in the big story, our changes to gambling rules , an example of gambling rules, an example of the nanny— gambling rules, an example of the nanny state— gambling rules, an example of the nanny state in overdrive . the nanny state in overdrive. hym— the nanny state in overdrive. kyiv te— the nanny state in overdrive. mm te we— the nanny state in overdrive. kyiv do we run— the nanny state in overdrive. kyiv do we run the risk of temehtehe— kyiv do we run the risk of demonising gamblers and treating them — demonising gamblers and treating them the— demonising gamblers and treating them like children— demonising gamblers and treating them like children ? my mark them like children? my mark meets— them like children? my mark meete guest— them like children? my mark meets guest is— them like children? my mark meets guest is tv comedy icon vtett— meets guest is tv comedy icon vicki michelle,— meets guest is tv comedy icon vicki michelle, star of eastenders,- vicki michelle, star of eastenders, and of course , eastenders, and of course, yvette— eastenders, and of course, yvette carte—blanche from allo atte. — yvette carte—blanche from allo the. se— yvette carte—blanche from allo the. se big— yvette carte—blanche from allo allo. so big guest,— yvette carte—blanche from allo allo. so big guest, big stories the— allo. so big guest, big stories mt atheis— allo. so big guest, big stories mt etweye big— allo. so big guest, big stories and always big opinions. a meti— and always big opinions. a lively three— and always big opinions. a lively three hours to come. thet— lively three hours to come. met, the — lively three hours to come. first, the headlines with ray httteeh—

first, the headlines with ray httteeh .— first, the headlines with ray addison . on _ first, the headlines with ray addison . on cu. ” addison. on thanks, mark. our top story tonight, the deputy prime minister says the evacuation of british nationals from sudan will end on saturday. oliver dowden says the decision was made after a decrease in the number of requests for help so far. british forces have rescued more than 1500 people. what we have seen over the past 24 hours or so is a significant decline in the british nationals coming forward. now, in the british nationals coming forward . now, that's what you'd forward. now, that's what you'd expect. — forward. now, that's what you'd expect. tt-e— forward. now, that's what you'd expect. it's what's— : now, that's what you'd expect. it's what's happened wtth— expect. it's what's happened wtth ether— expect. it's what's happened with other countries. so what we are with other countries. so what we saying— with other countries. so what we saving hete— with other countries. so what we are saying now is— with other countries. so what we are saying now is that people eheutt— are saying now is that people should expect— are saying now is that people should expect that within the next— should expect that within the next ze— should expect that within the next 24 hours.— should expect that within the next 24 hours. so by 6:00 uk ttme— next 24 hours. so by 6:00 uk time tomorrow— next 24 hours. so by 6:00 uk time tomorrow for— next 24 hours. so by 6:00 uk time tomorrow for us to cease these— time tomorrow for us to cease theee tttehte— time tomorrow for us to cease those flights as— time tomorrow for us to cease those flights as richard sharpe has those flights as richard sharpe hee teetehet— those flights as richard sharpe has resigned as— those flights as richard sharpe has resigned as chairman of the hec— has resigned as chairman of the the ther— has resigned as chairman of the the the e— has resigned as chairman of the bbc after a report— has resigned as chairman of the bbc after a report found that he hteeehet— bbc after a report found that he hteeehet the— bbc after a report found that he breached the rules— bbc after a report found that he breached the rules for public ephemtmehte— breached the rules for public appointments . _ breached the rules for public appointments . breached the rules for public appointments. us. the review says he failed to properly disclose his involvement in

facilitating an £800,000 loan guarantee for boris johnson . mr guarantee for boris johnson. mr sharpe says the breach was inadvertent. however, he's quitting to prioritise the interests of the broadcaster following calls from labour that he should have been sacked . the he should have been sacked. the prime minister says the right process was followed. this is about process was followed. this is eheut tethe— process was followed. this is about doing things- f : this is about doing things properly and pteteeetehetty— about doing things properly and professionally and when concerns are professionally and when concerns meet— professionally and when concerns teteet tt-e— professionally and when concerns are raised it's right— professionally and when concerns are raised it's right that there is are raised it's right that there he e— are raised it's right that there he e meter— are raised it's right that there is a proper process, an independent- is a proper process, an independent process that we ten-t— independent process that we teh-t prejudge- — independent process that we don't prejudge. we allow it to ethy— don't prejudge. we allow it to eemy eh— don't prejudge. we allow it to carry on, establish the facts of whet— carry on, establish the facts of that happened,— carry on, establish the facts of what happened, reach a conclusion— what happened, reach a conclusion that's happened. thehett— conclusion that's happened. richard sharpe— conclusion that's happened. richard sharpe has resigned. but it's richard sharpe has resigned. but he theht— richard sharpe has resigned. but he theht thet— richard sharpe has resigned. but it's right that we— richard sharpe has resigned. but it's right that we do these thhhee— it's right that we do these things properly and professionally. i think most peehhe— professionally. i think most heeete mhhh— professionally. i think most people will think that that's the—te— people will think that that's the—te te. - the right thing to do. scotland's- the right thing to do. scotland's police watchdog has hemehet— scotland's police watchdog has launched investigate nation launched an investigate nation hete— launched an investigate nation hhte-teeth— launched an investigate nation into-death of— launched an investigate nation into-death of a— launched an investigate nation into death of a pregnant into the death of a pregnant teeehet. — into the death of a pregnant teacher. the— into the death of a pregnant teacher. " into the death of a pregnant- teacher. the announcement comes after police found the body of her missing partner at a reservoir near glasgow. officers had been looking for 36 year old david yates after morrell sturrock was killed at her home on tuesday . she was 29 weeks

on tuesday. she was 29 weeks pregnant and her unborn baby did not survive. mr yates is death is not being treated as suspicious . is not being treated as suspicious. unions representing teachers and headteachers in england say they will take coordinated strike action in the autumn after accusing the government of wanting education on the cheap. the general secretaries of four unions say they will now work together in their long running dispute over pay their long running dispute over pay after they rejected the government's offer of a one off payment of £1,000 and an average pay payment of £1,000 and an average pay rise of 4.5% next year. the national association of head teachers says the decision sends a clear signal to the government that the dispute is not going away . well, health workers away. well, health workers belonging to the gmb union have accepted the government's 5% pay offer. gmb officials say they will now vote to accept the offer at a meeting of the nhs staff council next week. health secretary steve barclay says that deal recognises the outstanding job nhs staff do

whilst protecting the government's commitment to halve inflation. tv online and dab+ radio . this is gb news. back now radio. this is gb news. back now to mark dolan tonight. my to mark dolan tonight. my thanks to ray addison, who returns in an hour's time. welcome to mark dolan tonight and welcome to mark dolan tonight mt e— welcome to mark dolan tonight mt e happy— welcome to mark dolan tonight and a happy friday to one and eth— and a happy friday to one and ett. whet— and a happy friday to one and ett. whet te— and a happy friday to one and all. what do you— and a happy friday to one and all. what do you think of the tee— all. what do you think of the tee thee— all. what do you think of the tie? 12.99 tk_ all. what do you think of the tie? 12.99 tk max— all. what do you think of the tie? 12.99 tk max you're welcome tie?12.99tk max you're welcome . ether— tie?12.99tk max you're welcome . ether sheet— tie?12.99tk max you're welcome . other shops are— tie? 12.99 tk max you're welcome . other shops are available. theme— . other shops are available. meets the— . other shops are available. marks and spencer are next. they-te— marks and spencer are next. they-he eth— marks and spencer are next. they're all brilliant . now, they're all brilliant. now, tenheht— they're all brilliant. now, tehhght, hth— they're all brilliant. now, tonight, i'll be— they're all brilliant. now, tonight, i'll be asking the co—founder_ tonight, i'll be asking the co—founder of— tonight, i'll be asking the co—founder of vote leave is htexht— co—founder of vote leave is brexit britain _ co—founder of vote leave is brexit britain proving the themes— brexit britain proving the doubters wrong ? plus, why has doubters wrong? plus, why has hmethee-e— doubters wrong? plus, why has america's most— doubters wrong? plus, why has america's most popular broadcaster,— america's most popular broadcaster, tucker carlson, heeh— broadcaster, tucker carlson, been met— broadcaster, tucker carlson, heeh thtet e— broadcaster, tucker carlson, been fired ? and- broadcaster, tucker carlson, been fired ? and what does it been fired? and what does it tet— been fired? and what does it mean for free— been fired? and what does it mean for free speech in the weste— mean for free speech in the meete he— mean for free speech in the west? is rishi _ mean for free speech in the west? is rishi sunak right to emet— west? is rishi sunak right to eueet te— west? is rishi sunak right to refuse to apologise for slavery mt— refuse to apologise for slavery mt tetmhhe— refuse to apologise for slavery and refusing to— refuse to apologise for slavery and refusing to entertain the

mea— and refusing to entertain the htee et— and refusing to entertain the idea of reparations? we'll hear them— idea of reparations? we'll hear them teth— idea of reparations? we'll hear from both sides— idea of reparations? we'll hear from both sides on that one. and theme— from both sides on that one. and theme whhh— from both sides on that one. and ehette whtt thy.— from both sides on that one. and sparks will fly. also, would tem— sparks will fly. also, would four more years— sparks will fly. also, would four more years of joe biden be 9°°d_ four more years of joe biden be eeet et— four more years of joe biden be good eh het— four more years of joe biden be good or bad for— four more years of joe biden be good or bad for britain ? and is good or bad for britain? and is he he— good or bad for britain? and is he up te— good or bad for britain? and is he up te the— good or bad for britain? and is he up to the job?— good or bad for britain? and is he up to the job? i'll be asking top he up to the job? i'll be asking tee peththeeh— he up to the job? i'll be asking top political commentator and amehee-— top political commentator and america's psychiatrist, dr. cetehe— america's psychiatrist, dr. carole lieberman . and in dial carole lieberman. and in dial vehem— carole lieberman. and in dial heteh hth— carole lieberman. and in dial dolan, i'll be— carole lieberman. and in dial dolan, i'll be taking your video ethe— dolan, i'll be taking your video eethe tehheht— dolan, i'll be taking your video eethe tehheht .— dolan, i'll be taking your video calls tonight . i'll— dolan, i'll be taking your video calls tonight . i'll be asking, calls tonight. i'll be asking, wette— calls tonight. i'll be asking, weutt ht— calls tonight. i'll be asking, weutt ht he— calls tonight. i'll be asking, would it be wrong to scrap free hhs— would it be wrong to scrap free nhs prescriptions— would it be wrong to scrap free nhs prescriptions for the over ethe— nhs prescriptions for the over eom amt— nhs prescriptions for the over eom and he— nhs prescriptions for the over 60s? and is it— nhs prescriptions for the over 60s? and is it time for britain to 60s? and is it time for britain te hete— 60s? and is it time for britain to have child— 60s? and is it time for britain to have child free— 60s? and is it time for britain to have child free spaces ? what to have child free spaces? what do to have child free spaces? what he you— to have child free spaces? what he yet thhht— to have child free spaces? what do you think about kids when tee-te— do you think about kids when ye h— do you think about kids when ye hh e— do you think about kids when you're in a restaurant, in a eate— you're in a restaurant, in a eete et— you're in a restaurant, in a eete eh teem— you're in a restaurant, in a cafe or down the pub? would you like cafe or down the pub? would you the e— cafe or down the pub? would you the e ehhht— cafe or down the pub? would you like a child free— cafe or down the pub? would you like a child free area in my big ehhhheh— like a child free area in my big ehhhheh ettet— like a child free area in my big opinion, after nine. the bbc tethe— opinion, after nine. the bbc teehhg theht— opinion, after nine. the bbc losing their chairman is the east— losing their chairman is the heeet et— losing their chairman is the least of their— losing their chairman is the least of their problems. my teeetheh— least of their problems. my teeetheh te— least of their problems. my reaction to the— least of their problems. my reaction to the bombshell tehettme— reaction to the bombshell departure today of beeb boss thehett— departure today of beeb boss richard sharp— departure today of beeb boss richard sharp erg in the big stety— richard sharp erg in the big stety em— richard sharp erg in the big story our changes to gambling meet — story our changes to gambling meet ah— story our changes to gambling rules. an example of the nanny etete— rules. an example of the nanny etete h— rules. an example of the nanny state in overdrive— rules. an example of the nanny state in overdrive ._ rules. an example of the nanny state in overdrive . leave my state in overdrive. leave my hert— state in overdrive. leave my hem meete— state in overdrive. leave my mark meets guest is tv comedy heh— mark meets guest is tv comedy vheth — mark meets guest is tv comedy icon vicki michelle obe, star of teetthtete— icon vicki michelle obe, star of teetthtete .— icon vicki michelle obe, star of eastenders . and— icon vicki michelle obe, star of eastenders . and of course, allo

eastenders. and of course, allo atte— eastenders. and of course, allo ahte .— eastenders. and of course, allo ahte . h— eastenders. and of course, allo ahte . hh my— eastenders. and of course, allo allo . in my take— eastenders. and of course, allo allo . in my take at ten, i'll be allo. in my take at ten, i'll be teethhe— allo. in my take at ten, i'll be teethhe whth— allo. in my take at ten, i'll be dealing with covid hypocrite hatt— dealing with covid hypocrite matt hancock.— dealing with covid hypocrite matt hancock. the cruel unions thet— matt hancock. the cruel unions that went— matt hancock. the cruel unions that went te— matt hancock. the cruel unions that want to ruin— matt hancock. the cruel unions that want to ruin the fa cup thet— that want to ruin the fa cup that me— that want to ruin the fa cup final and eurovision. and my thee— final and eurovision. and my htee te— final and eurovision. and my plea to iceland— final and eurovision. and my plea to iceland to keep their thteetehet— plea to iceland to keep their threatened stores open . my threatened stores open. my newsmaker tonight is the teetheee— newsmaker tonight is the fearless political commentator eetttey— fearless political commentator godfrey bloom,— fearless political commentator godfrey bloom, who'll discuss whether— godfrey bloom, who'll discuss whether em— godfrey bloom, who'll discuss whether our increasingly peththeeh— whether our increasingly political civil— whether our increasingly political civil service is wetthhe— political civil service is working against the will of the teeth— working against the will of the teeth the— working against the will of the people and mark— working against the will of the people and mark dolan tonight is the heme— people and mark dolan tonight is the heme et— people and mark dolan tonight is the home of the— people and mark dolan tonight is the home of the papers with tomorrow's front— the home of the papers with tomorrow's front pages from 1030 whth — tomorrow's front pages from 1030 whth thee — tomorrow's front pages from 1030 whth thee tee— tomorrow's front pages from 1030 with three top pundits tonight, aeth— with three top pundits tonight, neil hamilton— with three top pundits tonight, neil hamilton duncan larcombe and neil hamilton duncan larcombe mt heeheue— neil hamilton duncan larcombe and precious muir— neil hamilton duncan larcombe and precious muir. so much to get— and precious muir. so much to get thteueh— and precious muir. so much to get thteugh e— and precious muir. so much to get through a really , really get through a really, really they— get through a really, really they three— get through a really, really busy three hours, including your emehhe— busy three hours, including your emehte .— busy three hours, including your emails . market— busy three hours, including your emails . market gb news. .uk. so emails. market gb news. .uk. so hete— emails. market gb news. .uk. so tet-e get— emails. market gb news. .uk. so let's get cracking— emails. market gb news. .uk. so let's get cracking .— emails. market gb news. .uk. so let's get cracking . it's good let's get cracking. it's good news on a friday night whether it's news on a friday night whether he the— news on a friday night whether it's the aukus_ news on a friday night whether it's the aukus defence deal with the us— it's the aukus defence deal with the us me— it's the aukus defence deal with the us and australia , the

the us and australia, the theme— the us and australia, the pacific trade _ the us and australia, the pacific trade deal , which gives pacific trade deal, which gives us access to a— pacific trade deal, which gives us access to a larger trade bloc then— us access to a larger trade bloc then the— us access to a larger trade bloc than the whole— us access to a larger trade bloc than the whole of— us access to a larger trade bloc than the whole of the eu , or the than the whole of the eu, or the teet— than the whole of the eu, or the teet thet— than the whole of the eu, or the teet thet tet— than the whole of the eu, or the fact that for the _ than the whole of the eu, or the fact that for the last two years hthtehh— fact that for the last two years hthtehh hee— fact that for the last two years britain has been— fact that for the last two years britain has been the fast gtewhhg— britain has been the fast growing economy in the g7 evehthhg— growing economy in the g7 avoiding recession. last year mt— avoiding recession. last year mt thtety— avoiding recession. last year and likely avoiding it in 2023, contradicting— and likely avoiding it in 2023, contradicting the— and likely avoiding it in 2023, contradicting the predictions of the hitt— contradicting the predictions of the haat mt— contradicting the predictions of the imf and others is brexit. hthtehh— the imf and others is brexit. britain proving— the imf and others is brexit. britain proving the doubters htehg— britain proving the doubters mehg e— britain proving the doubters mehg the— britain proving the doubters wrong ? to debate this, let's wrong? to debate this, let's heat— wrong? to debate this, let's heet te— wrong? to debate this, let's heet te the— wrong? to debate this, let's head to the united states and the co—founder_ head to the united states and the co—founder of— head to the united states and the co—founder of vote leave, hermet— the co—founder of vote leave, former conservative party and hth— former conservative party and hth ath— former conservative party and ukip mp douglas carswell. hi heughee— ukip mp douglas carswell. hi heugtee. — ukip mp douglas carswell. hi heugtee. ht— ukip mp douglas carswell. hi douglas. hi mark.- ukip mp douglas carswell. hi douglas . chi; ukip mp douglas carswell. hi douglas . 54:1 1:7 douglas. hi mark. how are you? i'm very well. great to have you teet— i'm very well. great to have you heet eh— i'm very well. great to have you heet eh the— i'm very well. great to have you back on the show— i'm very well. great to have you back on the show .— i'm very well. great to have you back on the show . who- wig great to have you back on the show . who are the back on the show. who are the heyeeyete— back on the show. who are the heyeeyete hehhg— back on the show. who are the naysayers being proved wrong? here— naysayers being proved wrong? here we— naysayers being proved wrong? dare we whisper— naysayers being proved wrong? dare we whisper it that brexit is dare we whisper it that brexit he wetthhg— dare we whisper it that brexit he wetthhg e — dare we whisper it that brexit is working ? well,- dare we whisper it that brexit is working ? while ” ”hi“? " is working? well, our remain establishment in britain are absolutely determined that brexit should be shown to be a mistake. so pretty much anything that's happened that has been bad news, they've they've wanted to blame on brexit, the temerity of the people for doubting the

wisdom of our remain establishment and daring to vote for brexit. but the reality, as you suggested, is that britain's not done too badly. our economy is has grown roughly at the same rate as the german economy . rate as the german economy. we've done okay. we've taken advantage of a new defence deal with america and australia. we've joined the new pacific free trade bloc. but i still can't put suspect that we've not taken full advantage of the opportunities that brexit offers us. there's still so much more we could do that remain establishment. i talked about earlier, doesn't want us to make the kind of changes that we're now free to make. we're still , now free to make. we're still, for example, subject to the so—called gdpr regulations on data management, which are holding back our country. why we've left the european union. america doesn't have gdpr regulations. most of asia doesn't have gdpr regulations. why can't we get rid of those? the truth is that our remain establishment are so

indoctrinated with this idea that we should shadow europe, we should follow europe. they don't want us to take full advantage of the freedom that brexit gives us. and that our own home grown pro—remain establishment is the real problem that we now have to confront. were you disappointed , douglas, to hear this week that the government are going to reduce that bonfire of eu regulations and rules ? it's not regulations and rules? it's not going to be. i think— regulations and rules? it's not going to be. i think the- g e�*h: 7 it's not going to be. i think the 4000 hete— going to be. i think the 4000 various acts of— going to be. i think the 4000 various acts of micro management thet— various acts of micro management that ee— various acts of micro management that te— various acts of micro management that te ge— various acts of micro management that are to go, but— various acts of micro management that are to go, but rather the see— that are to go, but rather the 800 et— that are to go, but rather the 800 et ee— that are to go, but rather the 800 et ee . — that are to go, but rather the 800 et ee . h— that are to go, but rather the 800 or so. i was- that are to go, but rather the 800 or so . hilt 800 or so. i was very disappointed for two reasons. first of all, kemi badenoch i thought was a sensible minister capable of thinking for herself and standing up for what she believed in against her civil servants. but apparently that doesn't seem to be the case. particularly disappointed because her reason for not implementing these reforms, for not getting rid of the 4000 eu regulations that were now free to get rid of, and saying we're

only going to try and get rid of about a quarter of that amount is because she said that her civil servants told her we shouldn't get rid of those regulations. excuse regulations. well excuse me, what expecting your what were you expecting your civil servants tell of civil servants to tell you? of course, servants are course, your civil servants are going want to remain going to want us to remain augned going to want us to remain aligned brussels . that's what aligned to brussels. that's what they've been doing years. they've been doing for 40 years. that their very frame that is their their very frame of mind is that we should comply with regulations. the whole with eu regulations. the whole point of having a conservative government is that we have ministers kim rye who stand up to civil rather to their civil servants rather than telling the than passively telling the voters what the civil servants will and won't allow you to do. so i was rather hoping that we would have ministers by now in positions in whitehall who are prepared to overturn turn the failed, remain establishment thinking and control their civil servants. but sadly , it seems as servants. but sadly, it seems as if this government is too often controlled by its civil servants. yes, minister, that very famous tv series from a few years ago. unfortunately it is not a comedy anymore. it's a pretty good description of how the remain civil service in

britain operates today. come on, kenny, wake up . get rid of those kenny, wake up. get rid of those regulations. it's like a documentary,- 3 it's like a documentary, isn't it? i've got to documentary, isn't it? i've got te tet— documentary, isn't it? i've got te eet yee— documentary, isn't it? i've got to ask you about— documentary, isn't it? i've got to ask you about this 4% figure, theegh— to ask you about this 4% figure, theugh. a— to ask you about this 4% figure, though. a projection by some eeehete— though. a projection by some economists that— though. a projection by some economists that brexit will meet— economists that brexit will etteet the — economists that brexit will affect the british economy to the— affect the british economy to the tune — affect the british economy to the tune et— affect the british economy to the tune of 4%_ affect the british economy to the tune of 4% of our gross temeethe— the tune of 4% of our gross domestic product. it is a gteteetheh— domestic product. it is a gteteetheh .— domestic product. it is a projection . are you having that projection. are you having that thgme— projection. are you having that thgme e— projection. are you having that thgme e h-m— projection. are you having that thgme e m very— projection. are you having that figure ? i'm very sceptical about figure? i'm very sceptical about eeehete— figure? i'm very sceptical about economists with— figure? i'm very sceptical about economists with spreadsheets teteeeethhg— economists with spreadsheets forecasting things they've got a hhetety— forecasting things they've got a hhetety et— forecasting things they've got a hhetety et hehhg— forecasting things they've got a history of being wrong . history of being wrong. shmhtetty.— history of being wrong. similarly, when- history of being wrong. similarly, when people try to forecast the trajectory of a virus or the trajectory of climate change, they end up being spectac clearly wrong. what we do know is that the european economy is becoming less and less significant. i'm talking to you from the united states, where the average american is now 40% wealthier than the average brit. the average european. i'm talking to you from mississippi. the poorest state in the united states this year. mississippi's per person income will overtake that of the united kingdom for the first time ever. there's a

world of growth and opportunity outside of europe, outside the shadow of brussels and the sooner that britain realigns and it's begun to do this by joining the pacific trade partnership, the pacific trade partnership, the sooner we do this with a free trade agreement with the united states, the sooner we start to regulate our industries the the states does the way the united states does not europe does. the not the way europe does. the faster we will grow. that's what we should be talking we should really be talking about. don't need more about. we don't need any more lectures kind of failed lectures from the kind of failed economists who warned us against democracy first place. we democracy in the first place. we i think, need to actually look beyond beyond those sorts of forecasts. acas beyond beyond those sorts of forecasts . acas let's talk forecasts. acas let's talk heughee— forecasts. acas let's talk douglas, about- f acas let's talk douglas, about where you are. the— douglas, about where you are. the uhhtet— douglas, about where you are. the united states— douglas, about where you are. the united states , one of the the united states, one of the meet— the united states, one of the most watched,— the united states, one of the most watched, most compelling hteeteeetete— most watched, most compelling broadcasters in— most watched, most compelling broadcasters in america. i think at heeet— broadcasters in america. i think at heeet e— broadcasters in america. i think at least 3 million— broadcasters in america. i think at least 3 million viewers a hhght. — at least 3 million viewers a hhght. meter— at least 3 million viewers a night. tucker carlson has been met— night. tucker carlson has been thtet hy— night. tucker carlson has been thtet hy tex— night. tucker carlson has been fired by fox news.— night. tucker carlson has been fired by fox news. take a listen to fired by fox news. take a listen te e— fired by fox news. take a listen te e vhtee— fired by fox news. take a listen te e vhtee he— fired by fox news. take a listen to a video he recorded after thet— to a video he recorded after that he— to a video he recorded after that news emerged when honest eeehte— that news emerged when honest eeehte ety— that news emerged when honest eeehte eey whet-e— that news emerged when honest people say what's true, calmly ehe— people say what's true, calmly mt whtheut— people say what's true, calmly and without embarrassment, they

heme— and without embarrassment, they become powerful— and without embarrassment, they become powerful at the same ttme— become powerful at the same time, the— become powerful at the same time, the liars— become powerful at the same time, the liars who've been ttyhhg— time, the liars who've been ttyhhg te— time, the liars who've been trying to silence- time, the liars who've been trying to silence them shrink, the— trying to silence them shrink, mt they— trying to silence them shrink, and they become— trying to silence them shrink, and they become weaker. that's the hen— and they become weaker. that's the thw— and they become weaker. that's the iron law of— and they become weaker. that's the iron law of the universe. true things prevail . where can true things prevail. where can you still find americans saying true things? there aren't many places left, but there are some. and that's enough. as long as you can hear the words, there is hope. see you soon, douglas . hope. see you soon, douglas. why has he been fired? an incredible— why has he been fired? an incredible popular and well hatchet— incredible popular and well watched presenter here. and what teee— watched presenter here. and what teee hhe— watched presenter here. and what does his sacking— watched presenter here. and what does his sacking mean in terms of does his sacking mean in terms et the— does his sacking mean in terms of the implication— does his sacking mean in terms of the implication for free eeeeeh — of the implication for free eeeeeh h— of the implication for free speech in the— of the implication for free speech in the west ? speech in the west? i was eetuetty— speech in the west? i was actually talking to tucker on friday night, about 48 hours before he was news came about of his departure from fox and he gave absolutely no indication of anything awry of being aware of anything awry of being aware of anything pending. and we were actually talking about the very themes that he had in that short video clip about the importance of telling the truth, about the

importance of basing political positions on the world as it is, not as as the world we want it to be. i'm slightly stunned that fox has got rid of him. you may be aware of the fact that bud light in america recently launched a campaign that insulted their customer base and their sales tanked. fox news, to me, to done something me, seems to have done something rather by getting of rather similar by getting rid of easily popular news easily the most popular news broadcaster in the united states . i don't think we've heard the last of tucker carlson. i think actually america needs him. britain needs him. the world needs hear his his. he's needs to hear his his. he's often quite sceptical of the claims of all politicians. he's as sceptical of republican politicians as of democrat politicians. he i think, is pretty fearless in speaking the truth. and clearly i suspect in the in the words of that, that that movie i watched a while ago, some people just can't handle the truth. they're trying to silence him. in doing so, to silence him. and in doing so, they're actually trying to silence lot of middle america. silence a lot of middle america. they want opinions they don't want these opinions to airtime . and i think to be given airtime. and i think that's i suspect that's concerning. but i suspect that's concerning. but i suspect

that carlson will be as that tucker carlson will be as popular years time popular in five, ten years time as is now . i'm popular in five, ten years time as is now. i'm not sure as he is now. i'm not sure i could say the same for fox news . speaking of popularity, heugtee— speaking of popularity, douglas, florida governor, douglas, the florida governor, ten— douglas, the florida governor, ron desantis,_ douglas, the florida governor, ron desantis, is— douglas, the florida governor, ron desantis, is in the uk. he met— ron desantis, is in the uk. he met the— ron desantis, is in the uk. he met the foreign— ron desantis, is in the uk. he met the foreign secretary marie, tell met the foreign secretary marie, tett me— met the foreign secretary marie, tett me eeeht— met the foreign secretary marie, tell me about this— met the foreign secretary marie, tell me about this guy's chances of tell me about this guy's chances et heeemhhg— tell me about this guy's chances of becoming president . would he of becoming president. would he be of becoming president. would he he e— of becoming president. would he he e geet— of becoming president. would he be a good president? what's your appreheet— be a good president? what's your eggteheeh et— be a good president? what's your appraisal of this— be a good president? what's your appraisal of this freedom loving eevemet h— appraisal of this freedom loving governor i also— appraisal of this freedom loving governor i i governor i also happen to run into him a few days ago, too. and i think ron desantis is he's a conservative in the way that ronald reagan and margaret thatcher are conservative. he believes in free trade . he believes in free trade. he believes in free trade. he believes in free trade. he believes in the free market. he's committed to this idea of america's founding principles . america's founding principles. he's an optimist. he believes that america's best days lie ahead. he has single handedly turned florida from being a democrat stronghold to being a solid conservative stronghold . solid conservative stronghold. and at the moment, he's behind in the polls in the american primaries. he's he's clearly behind trump. i wouldn't rule

him out yet. i think he's got a lot of he's got a lot of supporters. he's got a lot of funds. i think he's in with a chance.i funds. i think he's in with a chance. i would take him seriously. he's he's well worth listening to. he may or may not be the republican candidate in the next election, but the kind of conservatism that he believes in is the future for american conservatism. it is very different to the maga type of conservatism . i think it is conservatism. i think it is fundamentally. i think it's the only way to build a winning conservative coalition in america . i think he's good news. america. i think he's good news. i'm a big fan of his. i wish him well and it's great that he is meeting uk government ministers. i hope, incidentally , when he's i hope, incidentally, when he's in london, they're talking to him about a free trade agreement because think sort of because i think he's the sort of person might actually be person who might actually be able deliver on that. and if able to deliver on that. and if it's not him, there will be future of republican future generations of republican leaders will to leaders who will be able to deliver that. yes i mean, he's less divisive more less divisive and a more coherent than donald coherent leader than donald trump , isn't he? and he famously

trump, isn't he? and he famously eeht— trump, isn't he? and he famously eeht h— trump, isn't he? and he famously eeht hh ee— trump, isn't he? and he famously said in one stump— trump, isn't he? and he famously said in one stump speech- c i7 and he famously said in one stump speech that theme— said in one stump speech that ttethte he— said in one stump speech that florida is where— said in one stump speech that florida is where woke goes to die florida is where woke goes to the .— florida is where woke goes to the . teth— florida is where woke goes to the . veeh. h— florida is where woke goes to die . yeah. i mean— florida is where woke goes to die . yeah. i mean , i'm not going die. yeah. i mean, i'm not going to die. yeah. i mean, i'm not going te he— die. yeah. i mean, i'm not going te he enth— die. yeah. i mean, i'm not going to be anti donald— die. yeah. i mean, i'm not going to be anti donald trump . i: to be anti donald trump. donald trump,— to be anti donald trump. donald hmmm te— to be anti donald trump. donald hmmm te te— to be anti donald trump. donald trump, to be fair,— to be anti donald trump. donald trump, to be fair, you know, one an election that no one was expecting him to win and you know, i'm not going to be critical of him. i would simply just say that desantis has built a new coalition. people who have never previously voted republican are now solidly conservative in the way that ronald reagan created a new conservative in conservative coalition in desantis has created one in his home state. you have first and second generation americans voting for not because of voting for him not because of what he says about foreign policy, but because of the retail proposition he offers them with things like school choice, and it's by offering domestic btec american voters a compelling conservative proposition like school choice , proposition like school choice, that we're going to build a future conservative success story in america. desantis clearly gets this, and he's shown that he can do it in florida. i think if he was given

the chance, i think it's no question if he was the republican candidate at the next election, he would win pretty comfortably against biden. but, you know, i'm probably one you know, i'm probably the one guy this state of mississippi guy in this state of mississippi who have vote . so who doesn't have a vote. so let's and see what let's just wait and see what happens. more's pity. happens. more's the pity. heughee— happens. more's the pity. heugtee te— happens. more's the pity. douglas to great- more's the pity. douglas to great see you again. thank— douglas to great see you again. them yet— douglas to great see you again. thank you .joining - douglas to great see you again. thank you joining us on mark thank you for joining us on mark heteh— thank you for joining us on mark heteh henhght— thank you for joining us on mark dolan tonight. my— thank you for joining us on mark dolan tonight. my thanks to heughee— dolan tonight. my thanks to douglas carswell, the co founder of douglas carswell, the co founder et—tetmet— douglas carswell, the co founder et—tetmet hety- douglas carswell, the co founder of_former tory and. of vote leave, former tory and uhhh— of vote leave, former tory and hth ath— of vote leave, former tory and hth ht .— of vote leave, former tory and ukip mp. next— of vote leave, former tory and ukip mp . next up— of vote leave, former tory and ukip mp . next up is of vote leave, former tory and ukip mp. next up is rishi of vote leave, former tory and ukip mp . next up is rishi sunak ukip mp. next up is rishi sunak thght— ukip mp. next up is rishi sunak thght te— ukip mp. next up is rishi sunak hght te eehe— ukip mp. next up is rishi sunak right to refuse to— ukip mp. next up is rishi sunak right to refuse to apologise for ehevetye— right to refuse to apologise for eteyetye wett— right to refuse to apologise for slavery? we'll hear from both ehtee— slavery? we'll hear from both ehtee eh— slavery? we'll hear from both sides on that— slavery? we'll hear from both sides on that .—

listening to gb news radio . listening to gb news radio. they— listening to gb news radio. they three— listening to gb news radio. busy three hours.— listening to gb news radio. busy three hours. i- listening to gb news radio. busy three hours. i hope- listening to gb news radio. busy three hours. i hope you're having a good time. you might be at home hoping to get the kids to bed, get that cold beer in the fridge or fire the kettle the fridge or fire up the kettle because we got lots to debate tonight. and as it's friday, plenty along the way. plenty of fun along the way. now, minister

now, the prime minister has pushed idea of an pushed back on the idea of an apology or reparations for britain's historic links to slavery. here was his rather compelling exchange with the labour mp bell ribeiro—addy at pmqs on wednesday . take pmqs on wednesday. take a listen. asks the prime minister tetey— listen. asks the prime minister tetey ht— listen. asks the prime minister tetey ht he— listen. asks the prime minister today if he will— listen. asks the prime minister today if he will do— c asks the prime minister today if he will do what bernie eeeht— today if he will do what bernie eteht exeg— today if he will do what bernie grant axed all— today if he will do what bernie grant axed all those years ago. whet— grant axed all those years ago. that h— grant axed all those years ago. that t have— grant axed all those years ago. what i have asked— grant axed all those years ago. what i have asked and what eemtheee— what i have asked and what countless others— what i have asked and what countless others have asked ehe— countless others have asked mt— countless others have asked since and offer— countless others have asked since and offer a— countless others have asked since and offer a full and meehhhgmt— since and offer a full and meaningful apology for our eeehtty-e— meaningful apology for our country's role— meaningful apology for our country's role in slavery and colonialism _ country's role in slavery and colonialism and— country's role in slavery and colonialism and commit to hegetetety— colonialism and commit to reparatory justice dodi well, no, no, no, mr speaker, what i thhht— no, no, no, mr speaker, what i thhht em— no, no, no, mr speaker, what i think our focus— no, no, no, mr speaker, what i think our focus should now be on tehhg— think our focus should now be on tehhg he— think our focus should now be on tehhg he .— think our focus should now be on tehhg he , et— think our focus should now be on doing is , of course,— doing is, of course, understanding our history in doing is, of course,— understanding our history in all its understanding our history in all hte eehte— understanding our history in all hte eehte het— understanding our history in all its parts, not running away from it, its parts, not running away from a, hut— its parts, not running away from g, hut thght— its parts, not running away from it, but right now— its parts, not running away from it, but right now making sure thet— it, but right now making sure that we— it, but right now making sure that we have— it, but right now making sure that we have a— it, but right now making sure that we have a society which is hhetuehve— that we have a society which is inclusive and— that we have a society which is inclusive and tolerant of people them— inclusive and tolerant of people them eth— inclusive and tolerant of people from all backgrounds trying to eeehet— from all backgrounds trying to eeehet-meteo— from all backgrounds trying to unpick-history is- from all backgrounds trying to unpick history is not the unpick our history is not the thght—eht- unpick our history is not the thght—eht he- unpick our history is not the right—and is not right way forward and is not eemethhhg— right way forward and is not something-we- right way forward and is not something we will focus our something that we will focus our ehetghee— something that we will focus our ehetghee-cteet— something that we will focus our energies d g energies on. clear messaging from the pm. so what is the best way forward? an apology and the payment of billions or an acknowledgement that the horrors of slavery were perpetrated for

hundreds of years across many empires and nations. to debate this, i'm delighted to welcome royal expert and broadcaster ralph rafe heydel—mankoo and the actor, writer and commentator femi nylander. femi good to see you again. your reaction to what mr sunak had to say there in saying, no, no, no . um, well , mr sunak had to say there in saying, no, no, no . um, well, i saying, no, no, no. um, well, i mean, i think it's clear that apology is what comes before repertory justice. and part of the ee— repertory justice. and part of the reason that— ”hip chi and part of the reason that people don't went— the reason that people don't want te— the reason that people don't want to apologise for slavery is thet— want to apologise for slavery is that they— want to apologise for slavery is that they don't— want to apologise for slavery is that they don't want to have to pay— that they don't want to have to gay tepemthehe. — that they don't want to have to pay reparations. i— that they don't want to have to pay reparations. i mean, we have a pay reparations. i mean, we have a hhetetheet— pay reparations. i mean, we have a historical precedent for this eetuehty— a historical precedent for this actually, which— a historical precedent for this actually, which everyone in the uk actually, which everyone in the hth-them,— actually, which everyone in the uk - about, which - actually, which everyone in the uk about, which is the uk knows about, which is the treaty— uk knows about, which is the treaty et— uk knows about, which is the treaty of versailles. treaty of veteehttee— treaty of versailles. treaty of versailles was— treaty of versailles. treaty of versailles was where germany was teteet— versailles was where germany was meet—mt- forced both to apologise and take— forced both to apologise and take acknowledgement for the thet— take acknowledgement for the thtetttettt— take acknowledgement for the first world war— take acknowledgement for the first world war and after that teteet— first world war and after that was forced to _ first world war and after that was forced to pay— first world war and after that was forced to pay a huge amount of was forced to pay a huge amount et tepetethehe. — was forced to pay a huge amount of reparations. they— was forced to pay a huge amount of reparations. they were even eehet— of reparations. they were even called reparations— of reparations. they were even called reparations and it both it called reparations and it both ht teth— called reparations and it both it both resented— called reparations and it both it both resented the fact that it both resented the fact that ht het — it both resented the fact that ht het te — it both resented the fact that ht het te gey—

it both resented the fact that it had to pay reparations, but thee— it had to pay reparations, but also resented— it had to pay reparations, but also resented the fact that it het— also resented the fact that it had te — also resented the fact that it had to acknowledge what had had to acknowledge what it had eehe— had to acknowledge what it had tehe et— had to acknowledge what it had tehe eh whet— had to acknowledge what it had done or what it— had to acknowledge what it had done or what it was perceived to have— done or what it was perceived to have eehe— done or what it was perceived to have done with— done or what it was perceived to have done with-to- done or what it was perceived to have done with to the have done with regards to the thet— have done with regards to the met-met. — have done with regards to the first-war. and- have done with regards to the first war. and that first world war. and that teheheh— first world war. and that tension led— first world war. and that tension led into the second mett— tension led into the second world-britain- tension led into the second world britain has no world war. so britain has no hhetetheeh— world war. so britain has no historical-with- historical problem with eeeegthhg— historical problem with . accepting—from historical problem with- accepting_from other accepting reparations from other etetee— accepting reparations from other etetee thet— accepting reparations from other etetee thet ht— accepting reparations from other states that it believes have eehe— states that it believes have done something wrong. however, when— done something wrong. however, when-te— done something wrong. however, when-te heyhhg- when it comes to paying reparations,— when it comes to paying reparations, the it becomes a very— reparations, the it becomes a very thttereht— reparations, the it becomes a very different story. however temh— very different story. however temh, theee— very different story. however femi, those reparations from germany— femi, those reparations from germany bankrupted the country and germany bankrupted the country mt paved— germany bankrupted the country mt geyet the— germany bankrupted the country and paved the way for hitler. wat,— and paved the way for hitler. wat, h— and paved the way for hitler. well, i think— and paved the way for hitler. well, i think saying the reparations— well, i think saying the reparations paved the way for hhther— reparations paved the way for hhther he— reparations paved the way for hitler is not— reparations paved the way for hitler is not necessarily is a bit disingenuous— hitler is not necessarily is a bit disingenuous because at the end et— bit disingenuous because at the end et the— bit disingenuous because at the end et the try,— bit disingenuous because at the end of the day, um , there was a end of the day, um, there was a hmher— end of the day, um, there was a hmher et— end of the day, um, there was a number of factors— end of the day, um, there was a number of factors apart from hyperinflation— number of factors apart from hyperinflation and financial and thheheheh— hyperinflation and financial and financial ruin— hyperinflation and financial and financial ruin which led hitler led financial ruin which led hitler tet te— financial ruin which led hitler led to hitler's— financial ruin which led hitler led to hitler's rise. one of them — led to hitler's rise. one of them obviously- led to hitler's rise. one of them obviously being remarkable ememet— them obviously being remarkable ememet et— them obviously being remarkable amounts of xenophobia and hatred of amounts of xenophobia and hatred et eertehh— amounts of xenophobia and hatred of certain minority— amounts of xenophobia and hatred of certain minority ethnic greete— of certain minority ethnic groups, something which has etrehg— groups, something which has strong parallels— groups, something which has strong parallels today in many garte— strong parallels today in many herte et— strong parallels today in many perte et the— strong parallels today in many parts of the world. um, but nonetheless— parts of the world. um, but nonetheless ,_ parts of the world. um, but nonetheless , britain isn't poor nonetheless, britain isn't poor mt— nonetheless, britain isn't poor mt geyhhg— nonetheless, britain isn't poor mt geyhhg .— nonetheless, britain isn't poor mt geyhhg . h— nonetheless, britain isn't poor and paying . i mean, if britain

and paying. i mean, if britain te— and paying. i mean, if britain were to actually— and paying. i mean, if britain were to actually pay the amount thet— were to actually pay the amount that ht— were to actually pay the amount that ht hee— were to actually pay the amount that it has gained— were to actually pay the amount that it has gained historically trem— that it has gained historically from colonial— that it has gained historically from colonial ism and slavery , from colonial ism and slavery, it from colonial ism and slavery, ht wette— from colonial ism and slavery, ht weutt he— from colonial ism and slavery, it would be an— from colonial ism and slavery, it would be an awful lot of mey— it would be an awful lot of mey ahe— it would be an awful lot of money. and it— it would be an awful lot of money. and it would lead to hrhtehh— money. and it would lead to britain having— money. and it would lead to britain having to kind of perhege— britain having to kind of perhaps reel— britain having to kind of perhaps reel back from some of the eeeeeee— perhaps reel back from some of the excesses of— perhaps reel back from some of the excesses of living that eeehte— the excesses of living that eeehte et— the excesses of living that eeehte at the— the excesses of living that people at the top of society hhtutge— people at the top of society hhtutge hm— people at the top of society indulge in. but— people at the top of society indulge in. but britain has a lot indulge in. but britain has a het et— indulge in. but britain has a het et very,— indulge in. but britain has a het er very, very,— indulge in. but britain has a lot of very, very, very wealthy eeehte,— lot of very, very, very wealthy eeehte, e— lot of very, very, very wealthy eeehte, e tet— lot of very, very, very wealthy people, a lot some of them very, very,— people, a lot some of them very, very, very— people, a lot some of them very, very, very weetthy— people, a lot some of them very, very, very wealthy because of the— very, very wealthy because of the eheve— very, very wealthy because of the slave trade. _ very, very wealthy because of the slave trade. um, some of them— the slave trade. um, some of them very,— the slave trade. um, some of them very, very— the slave trade. um, some of them very, very wealthy because of colonialism.— them very, very wealthy because of colonialism. obviously it of colonialism. and obviously it hee— of colonialism. and obviously it hee-e— of colonialism. and obviously it hee-e eeehtry— of colonialism. and obviously it has a country which has has it is a country which has hehethtet— has it is a country which has benefited -from - has it is a country which has benefited from the this benefited hugely from the this hhetery— benefited hugely from the this hhetery ehe— benefited hugely from the this history and britain would not hehtmet— history and britain would not bankrupt itself— history and britain would not bankrupt itself if it were to ghe— bankrupt itself if it were to ghye ee— bankrupt itself if it were to give some degree of reparatory theme.— give some degree of reparatory teethee. ht— give some degree of reparatory justice. it would,— give some degree of reparatory justice. it would, however, take a justice. it would, however, take e het— justice. it would, however, take e het et— justice. it would, however, take e het et mehey— justice. it would, however, take a lot of money to— justice. it would, however, take a lot of money to actually repatr— a lot of money to actually regehr ee— a lot of money to actually repair some of— a lot of money to actually repair some of these historic wreheg — repair some of these historic wreheg tetph— repair some of these historic wrongs. t : repair some of these historic- wrongs. ralph haydel aukus it's time for the british government to say sorry and to pay up. you yeah, there are so many historical— yeah, there are so many historical inaccuracies with whth— historical inaccuracies with whth temh-e— historical inaccuracies with with femi's argument. there but het-e— with femi's argument. there but het-e thet— with femi's argument. there but here tuet ge— with femi's argument. there but here tuet ge te— with femi's argument. there but let's just go to the— with femi's argument. there but let's just go to the main one. the— let's just go to the main one. the treaty— let's just go to the main one. the treaty et—

let's just go to the main one. the treaty of versailles was in here, — the treaty of versailles was in here, ee— the treaty of versailles was in here, yeer— the treaty of versailles was in 1919, one year after the first mehe— 1919, one year after the first mertt tier. — 1919, one year after the first world war. now— 1919, one year after the first world war. now were we having this discussion— world war. now were we having this discussion in— world war. now were we having this discussion in 1807 or in this discussion in1807 or in eee,— this discussion in1807 or in eee, e— this discussion in1807 or in eee, a year— this discussion in 1807 or in 1808, a year after the british ehethehet— 1808, a year after the british abolished the _ 1808, a year after the british abolished the slave trade ? i abolished the slave trade? i eheehutehy— abolished the slave trade? i absolutely would agree with femi that we— absolutely would agree with femi that we meet— absolutely would agree with femi that we must apologise and must pay regerethehe— that we must apologise and must pay reparations because the vhethme— pay reparations because the vhethme et— pay reparations because the victims of the— pay reparations because the victims of the horrors of etevery— victims of the horrors of slavery were _ victims of the horrors of slavery were alive. and ehvheuety— slavery were alive. and obviously deserving of huge temegee— obviously deserving of huge temegee. hut— obviously deserving of huge damages. but it's not 1807 or 19 oh damages. but it's not 1807 or 19 eh 7— damages. but it's not 1807 or 19 eh h er— damages. but it's not 1807 or 19 eh h er twe— damages. but it's not 1807 or 19 oh 7 or two thousand and seven ever— oh 7 or two thousand and seven ever zoo— oh 7 or two thousand and seven ever zoo yeere— oh 7 or two thousand and seven over 200 years have passed since the eheththeh— over 200 years have passed since the abolition of— over 200 years have passed since the abolition of slavery. and tehthhg— the abolition of slavery. and we're talking about the descendants- we're talking about the descendants of slaves today in the caribbean— descendants of slaves today in the caribbean who are 6 or 7 geherethehe. — the caribbean who are 6 or 7 generations. asians separated hetweeh— generations. asians separated between their— generations. asians separated between their slave ancestors . between their slave ancestors. ahe— between their slave ancestors. aht hh— between their slave ancestors. and he whet— between their slave ancestors. and in what sense are they eetuethy— and in what sense are they actually victims— and in what sense are they actually victims and in what sense are they— actually victims and in what sense are they deserving of reperethehee— sense are they deserving of reparations? because, know , reparations? because, you know, it's reparations? because, you know, ht-e eh— reparations? because, you know, it's an uncomfortable truth that a it's an uncomfortable truth that e-eeehhe— it's an uncomfortable truth that e-heehhe hert— it's an uncomfortable truth that a people want actually a few people want to actually eeht— a few people want to actually pehht eut. — a few people want to actually point out. but— a few people want to actually point out. but from, you know, whether it's britain the whether it's britain or the caribbean, descendants of caribbean, the descendants of slaves have far better slaves today have a far better and far higher quality of life than if their ancestors had stayed in africa. and that's an hhthehutehte— stayed in africa. and that's an indisputable fact. _ : " ”rhett: and that's an indisputable fact. most : " rich and that's an indisputable fact. most former eetehhee—

indisputable fact. most former eehehhee ere— indisputable fact. most former colonies are now— indisputable fact. most former colonies are now actually middle income countries— colonies are now actually middle income countries .— colonies are now actually middle income countries . the gdp of the income countries. the gdp of the hehemee— income countries. the gdp of the hehemee he— income countries. the gdp of the bahamas is higher— income countries. the gdp of the bahamas is higher than portugal, whheh— bahamas is higher than portugal, whheh wee— bahamas is higher than portugal, whheh the— bahamas is higher than portugal, which was the greatest of the ewe— which was the greatest of the slave states,— which was the greatest of the slave states, and— which was the greatest of the slave states, and whether you're teethhg— slave states, and whether you're teethhg et— slave states, and whether you're teethhg et, yew— slave states, and whether you're looking at, you know, barbados or looking at, you know, barbados er ahthgwe— looking at, you know, barbados er ahthgwe mt— looking at, you know, barbados or antigua and barbuda, saint hhtte— or antigua and barbuda, saint thtte mt— or antigua and barbuda, saint kitts and nevis— or antigua and barbuda, saint kitts and nevis ,_ or antigua and barbuda, saint kitts and nevis , former british kitts and nevis, former british etewe— kitts and nevis, former british slave colonies— kitts and nevis, former british slave colonies have a higher gwehhty— slave colonies have a higher gwethty et— slave colonies have a higher quality of life— slave colonies have a higher quality of life ,_ slave colonies have a higher quality of life , according to quality of life, according to the— quality of life, according to the un — quality of life, according to the un human— quality of life, according to the un human development index then— the un human development index theh hrezhh— the un human development index than brazil-mexico— the un human development index than brazil mexico or many than brazil or mexico or many eewhtrhee— than brazil or mexico or many eewhtrhee et— than brazil or mexico or many countries of south america. so, you— countries of south america. so, yew thew, — countries of south america. so, yew thew-have— countries of south america. so, you know, - have to - countries of south america. so, you know, have to ask, in you know, you have to ask, in whet— you know, you have to ask, in whet-the— you know, you have to ask, in what-the british - you know, you have to ask, in what the british empire what way has the british empire disadvantaged— what way has the british empire disadvantaged countries? disadvantaged those countries? but disadvantaged those countries? hut-ht— disadvantaged those countries? but-it another- disadvantaged those countries? but it another way, let's but to put it another way, let's eemerhe— but to put it another way, let's eemerpe the— but to put it another way, let's compare the caribbean to west atrhee— compare the caribbean to west agra, whheh — compare the caribbean to west africa, which is— compare the caribbean to west africa, which is where most eeweet— africa, which is where most slaves came from. now, the gdp in slaves came from. now, the gdp hh hehhh— slaves came from. now, the gdp hh hehhh .— slaves came from. now, the gdp in benin , where— slaves came from. now, the gdp in benin , where a— slaves came from. now, the gdp in benin , where a lot of slaves in benin, where a lot of slaves trem, he— in benin, where a lot of slaves came from, is $1,400 a year. ehaeo. — came from, is $1,400 a year. ehaeo. h— came from, is $1,400 a year. $1,400. in barbados, it's 17,000 the— $1,400. in barbados, it's 17,000 mt eve— $1,400. in barbados, it's 17,000 mt teh— $1,400. in barbados, it's 17,000 and over ten times— $1,400. in barbados, it's 17,000 and over ten times higher life expectancy— and over ten times higher life expectancy hh— and over ten times higher life expectancy in benin is 62. in herhetee— expectancy in benin is 62. in herhetee .— expectancy in benin is 62. in barbados , at— expectancy in benin is 62. in barbados , at 79,— expectancy in benin is 62. in barbados , at 79, there isn't barbados, at 79, there isn't a ehhgte— barbados, at 79, there isn't a ehhgte eewhtry— barbados, at 79, there isn't a single country in— barbados, at 79, there isn't a single country in the caribbean, whheh— single country in the caribbean, whheh hen-t— single country in the caribbean, whheh heh-t et— single country in the caribbean, which isn't at least 4 or 5 thmee— which isn't at least 4 or 5 times better. _ which isn't at least 4 or 5 times better. and i think muhammad— times better. and i think muhammad ali put it best. now, wwhemmet— muhammad ali put it best. now, muhammad ali,— muhammad ali put it best. now, muhammad ali, great campaigner for muhammad ali, great campaigner ter atrheeh— muhammad ali, great campaigner for african american rights. and you for african american rights. and yew thew,— for african american rights. and yew knew when— for african american rights. and you know, when he left zaire arter— you know, when he left zaire the he—

you know, when he left zaire after his rumble— you know, when he left zaire after his rumble in the jungle whth— after his rumble in the jungle whth twmhhe— after his rumble in the jungle with rumble in— after his rumble in the jungle with rumble in the jungle with eeerge— with rumble in the jungle with george foreman— with rumble in the jungle with george foreman ,_ with rumble in the jungle with george foreman , someone asked george foreman, someone asked htm— george foreman, someone asked hhm whet— george foreman, someone asked hhm whet he— george foreman, someone asked him what he thought of africa mt— him what he thought of africa mt he— him what he thought of africa mt he eehet,— him what he thought of africa and he said, thank god my grehttetty— and he said, thank god my granddaddy got on that boat heeewee— granddaddy got on that boat because as bad— granddaddy got on that boat because as bad as slavery is, theee— because as bad as slavery is, theee whe— because as bad as slavery is, those who were— because as bad as slavery is, those who were enslaved, for theee— those who were enslaved, for theee whe — those who were enslaved, for those who were— those who were enslaved, for those who were enslaved, for those who were enslaved , had those who were enslaved, had they— those who were enslaved, had they eteyet— those who were enslaved, had they eteyet hh— those who were enslaved, had they stayed in africa, the eeehte— they stayed in africa, the eeehte retry— they stayed in africa, the people today calling for reparations— people today calling for reparations would have and reparations would have far and more dramatically poorer lives. amt— more dramatically poorer lives. and temh— more dramatically poorer lives. and femi, what— more dramatically poorer lives. and femi, what about those atrheeh— and femi, what about those african slavers_ and femi, what about those african slavers who sold human hehhge— african slavers who sold human hehhge eh— african slavers who sold human hehhge eh the— african slavers who sold human beings on the open market? h/rzitir beings on the open market? yes. wett— beings on the open market? yes. war, hetere— beings on the open market? yes. war, hetere h— beings on the open market? yes. well, before i get— beings on the open market? yes. well, before i get to— beings on the open market? h/rzitir well, before i get to your gweetheh— well, before i get to your question, let— well, before i get to your question, let me just address et— question, let me just address some of rafa's_ question, let me just address some of rafa's inaccuracies . um, some of rafa's inaccuracies. uin, at some of rafa's inaccuracies. um, at the— some of rafa's inaccuracies. um, at the ehe— some of rafa's inaccuracies. um, at the end et— some of rafa's inaccuracies. um, at the end of the— some of rafa's inaccuracies. um, at the end of the day, it's hhtereethhg— at the end of the day, it's interesting that you end your theeweeheh— interesting that you end your discussion on— interesting that you end your discussion on the topic of zehewh— discussion on the topic of zahawi, which— discussion on the topic of zahawi, which obviously now is thewh— zahawi, which obviously now is thewh ee— zahawi, which obviously now is thewh re the— zahawi, which obviously now is known as the congo. the congo is et— known as the congo. the congo is et the— known as the congo. the congo is et the key— known as the congo. the congo is one of the key examples of twreheeh— one of the key examples of european colonialism damaging atrhee— european colonialism damaging atrhee te— european colonialism damaging atrhee te eh— european colonialism damaging africa to an extent where it's peerer— africa to an extent where it's peerer thm— africa to an extent where it's poorer than the _ africa to an extent where it's poorer than the caribbean. the teet— poorer than the caribbean. the teet thet— poorer than the caribbean. the fact that the _ poorer than the caribbean. the fact that the caribbean is doing better— fact that the caribbean is doing better then— fact that the caribbean is doing better than africa— fact that the caribbean is doing better than africa at the moment is better than africa at the moment he het— better than africa at the moment he het e— better than africa at the moment he het e he— better than africa at the moment he het e he het— better than africa at the moment is not a is not is— better than africa at the moment is not a is not is not— better than africa at the moment is not a is not is not a representation of the beneficence - representation of the beneficence of europeans in tethhg— beneficence of europeans in taking africans—

beneficence of europeans in taking africans to the caribbean to taking africans to the caribbean te eetve— taking africans to the caribbean to enslave them.— taking africans to the caribbean to enslave them. it's a representation of the fact that arter— representation of the fact that the cehge — representation of the fact that after congo elected its first hemeerethe— after congo elected its first democratic leader, patrice twmwmhe— democratic leader, patrice lumumba, he _ democratic leader, patrice lumumba, he was killed by france and lumumba, he was killed by france mt hy— lumumba, he was killed by france mt hy hetghwm— lumumba, he was killed by france and by belgium. the uk was also hhvetvet— and by belgium. the uk was also hhvehvet .— and by belgium. the uk was also hhvehvet . hhe— and by belgium. the uk was also involved . his body— and by belgium. the uk was also involved . his body was dissolved involved. his body was dissolved involved. his body was dissolved hh e— involved. his body was dissolved hh e the— involved. his body was dissolved hh a we et— involved. his body was dissolved in a tub of acid— involved. his body was dissolved in a tub of acid and a dictator, wehwtw— in a tub of acid and a dictator, wehwtw seee— in a tub of acid and a dictator, mobutu sese soko, was installed. whe— mobutu sese soko, was installed. whe rehhet— mobutu sese soko, was installed. who robbed the— mobutu sese soko, was installed. who robbed the country for 30 yeere— who robbed the country for 30 yeere ehe— who robbed the country for 30 yeere mt hht— who robbed the country for 30 years and hid all— who robbed the country for 30 years and hid all his money in swhee— years and hid all his money in swhee hmh— years and hid all his money in swiss bank accounts in europe. so swiss bank accounts in europe. se europe— swiss bank accounts in europe. se twrehe he— swiss bank accounts in europe. so europe is very,— swiss bank accounts in europe. so europe is very, very, very eemhhheht— so europe is very, very, very eemgtheht hh— so europe is very, very, very complicit in where africa is tetey— complicit in where africa is today. colonialism and neo colonialism _ today. colonialism and neo colonialism have led to a ehtwetheh— colonialism have led to a situation in— colonialism have led to a situation in which africa is so peer— situation in which africa is so peer thet— situation in which africa is so poor that that— situation in which africa is so poor that that the caribbean, teephte— poor that that the caribbean, teephte hehhg— poor that that the caribbean, despite being many, many , many despite being many, many, many meghhtwtee— despite being many, many, many magnitudes poorer— despite being many, many, many magnitudes poorer than the west , heeewee et— magnitudes poorer than the west , because of the— magnitudes poorer than the west , because of the history it's het— , because of the history it's het whth— , because of the history it's had with the— , because of the history it's had with the west, as you say, is had with the west, as you say, he tehhg— had with the west, as you say, is doing better— had with the west, as you say, is doing better than lot of is doing better than a lot of atrheeh— is doing better than a lot of african states— is doing better than a lot of african states .— is doing better than a lot of african states . however, the african states. however, the teet— african states. however, the teet thet— african states. however, the fact that it's— african states. however, the fact that it's one— african states. however, the fact that it's one year or 300 yeere— fact that it's one year or 300 yeere he— fact that it's one year or 300 yeere he teee— fact that it's one year or 300 years is does not— fact that it's one year or 300 years is does not matter if it's treeeehhe. — years is does not matter if it's traceable. meps_ years is does not matter if it's traceable. meps like richard prev,— traceable. meps like richard prev, they— traceable. meps like richard prev, they he,— traceable. meps like richard drax, they he, he, richard drax thewe— drax, they he, he, richard drax thewe where— drax, they he, he, richard drax knows where his— drax, they he, he, richard drax knows where his wealth comes trem— knows where his wealth comes trem. amt— knows where his wealth comes trem. aht ht— knows where his wealth comes from. and if he— knows where his wealth comes from. and if he can still be meeehvehy— from. and if he can still be massively rich— from. and if he can still be massively rich off the off the teet— massively rich off the off the trek et— massively rich off the off the back of slavery— massively rich off the off the back of slavery 6— massively rich off the off the back of slavery 6 or 7 generations- back of slavery 6 or 7 generations later. why is it then— generations later. why is it then here— generations later. why is it then hard to— generations later. why is it

then hard to understand that? cerhhheehe— then hard to understand that? caribbeans part— then hard to understand that? caribbeans part of the reason they-re— caribbeans part of the reason they-re peerer— caribbeans part of the reason they're poorer than the west tetey— they're poorer than the west tetey he— they're poorer than the west today is something that happened 6 today is something that happened e er— today is something that happened e er 7— today is something that happened 6 or 7 generations— today is something that happened 6 or 7 generations ago. a year arter— 6 or 7 generations ago. a year the the— 6 or 7 generations ago. a year after the abolition of slavery. hhe— after the abolition of slavery. the ewe— after the abolition of slavery. the slave owners— after the abolition of slavery. the slave owners were paid off. the— the slave owners were paid off. the hvee— the slave owners were paid off. the slaves never— the slave owners were paid off. the slaves never got any money. amt—ewhere- the slaves never got any money. amt—ewhere ere- the slaves never got any money. and—owners are richi and those slave owners are rich tetey. — and those slave owners are rich tetey. new.— and those slave owners are rich today. now, femi,— and those slave owners are rich today. now, femi, i'm- and those slave owners are rich today. \rr:irhri today. now, femi, i'm i'm sympathetic to your suggestion of apology. don't see why of an apology. i don't see why not. after all, a terrible human crime was committed. however reparations is just silly , isn't reparations is just silly, isn't it? where do you start? do you start with the african countries who actually sold people, prepared them in cages in order to be shipped abroad ? and also, to be shipped abroad? and also, do hauans to be shipped abroad? and also, do italians pay reparations do the italians pay reparations for the roman empire ? do the for the roman empire? do the swedes pay reparations for the vikings? do the english pay reparations for the irish potato famine ? where does this end ? famine? where does this end? well, the irish potato famine a pretty— well, the irish potato famine was a pretty horrific piece of hhetery,— was a pretty horrific piece of history, where _ was a pretty horrific piece of history, where england was heeheehty— history, where england was basically shipped many, many, meey,— basically shipped many, many, many, meey— basically shipped many, many, many, many tonnes of food out of a many, many tonnes of food out of e etervhhg— many, many tonnes of food out of e etervhhg etete— many, many tonnes of food out of a starving state. um— many, many tonnes of food out of a starving state. um of a state where— a starving state. um of a state where peepte— a starving state. um of a state where people were dying of

etervetheh— where people were dying of starvation just— where people were dying of starvation just because they thth-t— starvation just because they didn't respect— starvation just because they didn't respect them as human hehhge. — didn't respect them as human. beings. _definitely beings. so they could definitely beings. so they could definitely he teth— beings. so they could definitely be talk something there. be talk of something there. hweve— be talk of something there. however especially given the teet— however especially given the met—he- however especially given the met—he hew- fact that ireland is now a eeperete— fact that ireland is now a separate state,- fact that ireland is now a separate state, but things are treeeehhe— traceable. some things are not. if traceable. some things are not. ht-pehht— traceable. some things are not. ht-pehht te— traceable. some things are not. if point to someone and if i could point to someone and say— if i could point to someone and eey yew— if i could point to someone and eey yew, um— if i could point to someone and eey yew, the— if i could point to someone and say your, um, the direct descendant— say your, um, the direct descendant of- say your, um, the direct descendant of a roman kind of ghetheter— descendant of a roman kind of gladiator owning,— descendant of a roman kind of gladiator owning, slave owning temhhy— gladiator owning, slave owning amply, mt— gladiator owning, slave owning family, and this— gladiator owning, slave owning family, and this is a direct descendant— family, and this is a direct descendant of— family, and this is a direct descendant of someone else who e whe— descendant of someone else who was a who was one— descendant of someone else who was a who was one of these tvee— was a who was one of these hvee mt— was a who was one of these slaves and draw— was a who was one of these slaves and draw a clear link between— slaves and draw a clear link between the, _ slaves and draw a clear link between the, the— slaves and draw a clear link between the, the reason you're weetthy— between the, the reason you're weehthy mt — between the, the reason you're wealthy and the— between the, the reason you're wealthy and the reason that pereeh— wealthy and the reason that pee he— wealthy and the reason that peee he peer.— wealthy and the reason that person is poor. being linked to hheterheet— person is poor. being linked to historical injustice is great. the— historical injustice is great. the thhhg— historical injustice is great. the thing about modern and it is meemt— the thing about modern and it is meemt hh— the thing about modern and it is modern in comparison with the temer— modern in comparison with the roman emperor,— modern in comparison with the roman emperor, it is modern in eemerhpeeh— roman emperor, it is modern in emprhee whth— roman emperor, it is modern in comparison with the ottoman tmperer— comparison with the ottoman tmpererlvery— comparison with the ottoman emperor very modern. modern. emperor is very modern. modern. so emperor is very modern. modern. se etevery— emperor is very modern. modern. se etevery, the— emperor is very modern. modern. so slavery, the transatlantic eteve— so slavery, the transatlantic eteve trete — so slavery, the transatlantic slave trade in— so slavery, the transatlantic slave trade in a— so slavery, the transatlantic slave trade in a comparative he thet— slave trade in a comparative sense is that we— slave trade in a comparative sense is that we still know who is sense is that we still know who he weetthy— sense is that we still know who is wealthy because _ sense is that we still know who is wealthy because of it, and we ethtt— is wealthy because of it, and we ethtt thew— is wealthy because of it, and we still know that— is wealthy because of it, and we still know that these countries are still know that these countries peer— still know that these countries peer hh— still know that these countries peer hh e— still know that these countries are poor in a large way because of are poor in a large way because et ht.— are poor in a large way because et ht. we— are poor in a large way because et ht. we thew— are poor in a large way because of it. we know nato okay. we have— of it. we know nato okay. we have we— of it. we know nato okay. we have we thew— of it. we know nato okay. we have we know that the descendants- have we know that the descendants of these people are weetthy— descendants of these people are weetthy-thew— descendants of these people are wealthy - know that - descendants of these people are wealthy know that their wealthy and we know that their pereehet— wealthy and we know that their personal,-wealth- wealthy and we know that their personal, wealth is personal, private wealth is tutt— personal, private wealth is hwhtt etr— personal, private wealth is built off slavery. richard drax hhherhtet—

built off slavery. richard drax. inherited _ recently. inherited a plantation recently. they— inherited a plantation recently. they ethtt— inherited a plantation recently. they still own— inherited a plantation recently. they still own the plantation in herhetee— they still own the plantation in barbados, and— they still own the plantation in barbados, and inherited it. barbados, and he inherited it. it's barbados, and he inherited it. ht-e very— barbados, and he inherited it. rt-e very eteer— barbados, and he inherited it. it's very clear who the beneficiaries- it's very clear who the beneficiaries of this are. okay. — beneficiaries of this are. okay. temh — beneficiaries of this are. okay. femi sorry- beneficiaries of this are. okay. femi sorry to- beneficiaries of this are. okay. femi sorry to stop you. the clock is against us. briefly, if you can, ralph, final thoughts on this? yeah well, firstly, britain wasn't involved in the congo at all. if you look around the world, the— if you look around the world, the reghehe— if you look around the world, the regions of— if you look around the world, the regions of the world were the— the regions of the world were the meet— the regions of the world were the most stable— the regions of the world were the most stable countries. they-re— the most stable countries. they're always— the most stable countries. they're always former british eetehhee— they're always former british colonies-look,- they're always former british colonies look, idea colonies. but look, the idea thet— colonies. but look, the idea that etevery— colonies. but look, the idea that slavery was— colonies. but look, the idea that slavery was somehow twetthhg— that slavery was somehow fuelling britain and the empire is a fuelling britain and the empire he e eemptete— fuelling britain and the empire is a complete nonsense that the etevery— is a complete nonsense that the slavery contributed— is a complete nonsense that the slavery contributed the british eey— slavery contributed the british eey the — slavery contributed the british economy the same amount that hepe— economy the same amount that hepe mt— economy the same amount that hops and brewing— economy the same amount that hops and brewing did . and no one hops and brewing did. and no one eye— hops and brewing did. and no one eye thet— hops and brewing did. and no one eye that beer— hops and brewing did. and no one says that beer built— hops and brewing did. and no one says that beer built the british tmphre— says that beer built the british tmphre er— says that beer built the british empire or built— says that beer built the british empire or built the industrial htevetwtheh— empire or built the industrial revolution in— empire or built the industrial revolution in it's long been theeewhtet— revolution in it's long been discounted .— revolution in it's long been discounted . the— revolution in it's long been discounted . the idea discounted. the idea that eeh— discounted. the idea that somehow slavery was was a huge hehetht— somehow slavery was was a huge hehetht te— somehow slavery was was a huge benefit to britain— somehow slavery was was a huge benefit to britain in— somehow slavery was was a huge benefit to britain in fact, you thew,— benefit to britain in fact, you thew-the — benefit to britain in fact, you know,-the 40%- benefit to britain in fact, you know,-the 40% of- benefit to britain in fact, you know, the 40% of gdp that know, with the 40% of gdp that hrhtehh— know, with the 40% of gdp that hrhtehh pett— know, with the 40% of gdp that hrhtehh peht te— know, with the 40% of gdp that britain paid to free the slaves mt— britain paid to free the slaves mt whth— britain paid to free the slaves mt whth the — britain paid to free the slaves and with the 13% _ britain paid to free the slaves and with the 13% of royal navy resources enforcing the eheththeh— resources enforcing the abolition of— resources enforcing the abolition of the slave trade gtehetty— abolition of the slave trade globally, britain actually ended up paying— globally, britain actually ended up paying more— globally, britain actually ended up paying more to stop slavery thm— up paying more to stop slavery theh ht— up paying more to stop slavery theh ht the— up paying more to stop slavery than it did from _ up paying more to stop slavery than it did from getting slavery and than it did from getting slavery

mt eut— than it did from getting slavery mt ewt et— than it did from getting slavery mt ewt et e— than it did from getting slavery and out of a population of mhtthene— and out of a population of millions. there— and out of a population of millions. there were only 3000 eteve— millions. there were only 3000 slave owners, so— millions. there were only 3000 slave owners, so why should the mhtthehe— slave owners, so why should the mhtthehe et— slave owners, so why should the millions of people— slave owners, so why should the millions of people in britain tetey— millions of people in britain tetey whe— millions of people in britain today who whose ancestors lived thvee— today who whose ancestors lived thvee et— today who whose ancestors lived lives of abject— today who whose ancestors lived lives of abject poverty akin to eerttem — lives of abject poverty akin to eerttem e— lives of abject poverty akin to serfdom ? why— lives of abject poverty akin to serfdom ? why should they pay serfdom? why should they pay reperethehee— serfdom? why should they pay reparations? you— serfdom? why should they pay reparations? you know , what reparations? you know, what ghett— reparations? you know, what them-the— reparations? you know, what about the people from the about all the people from the thirteen— about all the people from the caribbean-in- about all the people from the caribbean in britain? why caribbean living in britain? why ehewtt—tel should they pay reparations to peepte— should they pay reparations to peepte hh— should they pay reparations to peepte he the— should they pay reparations to people in the caribbean? what ghett— people in the caribbean? what about—population. people in the caribbean? what about population who about 16% of the population who live about 16% of the population who hve—e— about 16% of the population who hve—e whe - about 16% of the population who live _ ? who live - live abroad now? who live from gagge— live abroad now? who live from threat-thve- live abroad now? who live from abroad,-live in- live abroad now? who live from abroad, live in britain abroad, who now live in britain 7 abroad, who now live in britain e-ehewtt— abroad, who now live in britain e-ehewtt they— abroad, who now live in britain ?-should they pay- ? why should they pay reparations?- ? why should they pay reparations? but most ? why should they pay- reparations?-but most . reparations? okay but most. veeh. — reparations? okay but most. veeh. eh— reparations? okay but most. yeah. oh, well,— reparations? okay but most. yeah. oh, well, there we go. wett — yeah. oh, well, there we go. wett there-e— yeah. oh, well, there we go. well, there's of— yeah. oh, well, there we go. well, there's of course- yeah. oh, well, there we go. well, there's of course we could do hours on this, but my sincere thanks to ralph rafe heydel—mankoo and femi nylander for debate . it's for a very vibrant debate. it's fascinating. one, of course, that one will run and run . next that one will run and run. next up, would four more years of joe biden be good or bad for britain? and is he up to the job? i'll be asking america's psychiatrist , doctor carole psychiatrist, doctor carole lieberman. she doesn't pull her punches. you won't want to miss it. she's .

have completely derailed the conversation. _ have completely derailed the conversation. i conversation. join me monday to thursday at 8 pm. on gb news. britain's . welcome back to the britain's. welcome back to the ehew— britain's. welcome back to the ehew et— britain's. welcome back to the ehew et thee. — britain's. welcome back to the show at 9:00. lots— britain's. welcome back to the show at 9:00. lots to get threwgh— show at 9:00. lots to get threwgh .— show at 9:00. lots to get through , including my big through, including my big ephhheh— through, including my big opinion folks.— through, including my big opinion folks. and it's going to be opinion folks. and it's going to he gutte— opinion folks. and it's going to be quite something to behold. i'll be quite something to behold. h-tt he— be quite something to behold. i'll be talking— be quite something to behold. i'll be talking about the bbc whe— i'll be talking about the bbc whe have— i'll be talking about the bbc who have lost— i'll be talking about the bbc who have lost their chairman, hut— who have lost their chairman, hwt hh— who have lost their chairman, but he my— who have lost their chairman, but he my vhew— who have lost their chairman, but in my view ,_ who have lost their chairman, but in my view , they lost more but in my view, they lost more then— but in my view, they lost more then thet— but in my view, they lost more than that many— but in my view, they lost more than that many years ago, hhetwthhg— than that many years ago, including losing the plot . my including losing the plot. my preeerhptheh— including losing the plot. my prescription for— including losing the plot. my prescription for a new bbc . prescription for a new bbc. hhete— prescription for a new bbc. hhet-e et— prescription for a new bbc. that's at 9:00. _ prescription for a new bbc. that's at 9:00. so all of that

to that's at 9:00. so all of that te get— that's at 9:00. so all of that te get threwgh— that's at 9:00. so all of that to get through. but first, it's etthehet— to get through. but first, it's official, folks— to get through. but first, it's official, folks ,_ to get through. but first, it's official, folks , and we called official, folks, and we called it official, folks, and we called ht eh— official, folks, and we called ht eh thhe— official, folks, and we called it on this show— official, folks, and we called it on this show last weekend in a it on this show last weekend in three— it on this show last weekend in evhtee thet— it on this show last weekend in a video that broke— it on this show last weekend in a video that broke the internet . he— a video that broke the internet . he agape, — a video that broke the internet . be afraid, be— a video that broke the internet . be afraid, be very afraid . and . be afraid, be very afraid. and treehteht— . be afraid, be very afraid. and treehteht ree— . be afraid, be very afraid. and president joe biden or slo mo joe,— president joe biden or slo mo joev ee— president joe biden or slo mo joev ee h— president joe biden or slo mo joev ee h hhte— president joe biden or slo mo joe, as i like to— president joe biden or slo mo joe, as i like to call him, is eet— joe, as i like to call him, is eet te— joe, as i like to call him, is set to announce— joe, as i like to call him, is set to announce this week that het— set to announce this week that me hhte— set to announce this week that me the te— set to announce this week that he'd like to run— set to announce this week that he'd like to run for wait for it ehether— he'd like to run for wait for it another four— he'd like to run for wait for it another four years in the white het-ee — another four years in the white house. although— another four years in the white house. although by the looks of it, house. although by the looks of i, he— house. although by the looks of i, he eehte— house. although by the looks of it, he could barely— house. although by the looks of it, he could barely manage the next— it, he could barely manage the next tetr— it, he could barely manage the next four days.— it, he could barely manage the next four days. the wobbly teeter— next four days. the wobbly teeter et— next four days. the wobbly leader of the _ next four days. the wobbly leader of the free world who heete— leader of the free world who heete te — leader of the free world who heete te he — leader of the free world who needs to be reminded ten needs to be reminded every ten mhhwtee— needs to be reminded every ten mhhwtee thet— needs to be reminded every ten minutes that actually minutes that he's actually preehteht— minutes that he's actually president-he's- minutes that he's actually president he's the first president and he's the first commander in— president and he's the first commander in chief to have more hereee—gwerte- commander in chief to have more hweeewere—gt hel nurses than security guards is set nurses than security guards is eet te— nurses than security guards is eet te teth— nurses than security guards is set to tell american voters that he-te — set to tell american voters that he-te -the - set to tell american voters that he-te-the jobr- set to tell american voters thati he _to _the job, even he wants to finish the job, even thewgh— he wants to finish the job, even thewgh ht-e— he wants to finish the job, even though it's abundantly clear he can though it's abundantly clear he herety— though it's abundantly clear he can barely finish— though it's abundantly clear he can barely finish a sentence . can barely finish a sentence. oh,— can barely finish a sentence. eh yee— can barely finish a sentence. eh yee .— can barely finish a sentence. oh, yes , indeed.— can barely finish a sentence. oh, yes , indeed. on tuesday, joe oh, yes, indeed. on tuesday, joe hhter— oh, yes, indeed. on tuesday, joe biden confirmed— oh, yes, indeed. on tuesday, joe biden confirmed that he will eeeh— biden confirmed that he will eeet te— biden confirmed that he will eeet te reh— biden confirmed that he will seek to run for— biden confirmed that he will seek to run for another four yeere— seek to run for another four yeere hh— seek to run for another four years in office. _ seek to run for another four years in office. but politics gage,— years in office. but politics gage, whet— years in office. but politics aside, what about his health? eeh— aside, what about his health? ceh he— aside, what about his health? can he physically manage? and ghveh— can he physically manage? and ghveh the— can he physically manage? and given the almost— can he physically manage? and given the almost daily gaffes thet— given the almost daily gaffes thet he— given the almost daily gaffes that he makes,— given the almost daily gaffes that he makes, should somebody in that he makes, should somebody hh hhe— that he makes, should somebody hh hhe mehtet— that he makes, should somebody in his mental state— that he makes, should somebody in his mental state be the most

pewertwt— in his mental state be the most powerful person— in his mental state be the most powerful person in— in his mental state be the most powerful person in the world to eehete— powerful person in the world to tehete thhee— powerful person in the world to debate this? i'm— powerful person in the world to debate this? i'm delighted to weteeme— debate this? i'm delighted to welcome political commentator ehe— welcome political commentator eht tegehtery— welcome political commentator and legendary psychiatrist, in teet— and legendary psychiatrist, in ga, thewh— and legendary psychiatrist, in fact, known as— and legendary psychiatrist, in fact, known as america's peyehhetry— fact, known as america's psychiatry host, dr. carol hheter— psychiatry host, dr. carol theher .— psychiatry host, dr. carol theher. ht— psychiatry host, dr. carol lieber. hi, dr.- psychiatry host, dr. carol lieber. hi, dr. carol. cchr: lieber. hi, dr. carol. hi. glad to lieber. hi, dr. carol. hi. glad te te— lieber. hi, dr. carol. hi. glad to be back . how- lieber. hi, dr. carol. hi. glad to be back. how did- lieber. hi, dr. carol. cchr: i how did you lieber. hi, dr. carol. cichr: i how did you greet to be back. how did you greet the ee— to be back. how did you greet the news that— to be back. how did you greet the news that joe _ i how did you greet the news that joe biden would the— the news that joe biden would the meme— the news that joe biden would like another four— the news that joe biden would like another four years in the whhte— like another four years in the white house? _ like another four years in the white house? c. 7 �*hfvhh�*rzicc like another four years in the white house? c. 7 �*hfvhh�*rzicc like another four years in the white house? c. 7 �*hsvhrhrzicc white house? huh? well you know, when he first ran for president in 2020, i was out there all around the place trying to warn people that he had encroaching dementia. so now that he's, you know, going again on his dementia, of course , has been dementia, of course, has been encroaching all the more over these years, i think , you know, these years, i think, you know, you were asking before how is joe biden's if he became president, how would that be for the uk as bad as it would be for america ? you know, he's been america? you know, he's been saying his slogan apparently is, let me finish the job. you know, i want to finish the job. well, if he finishes the job in america, america is going to be

totally destroyed . however, totally destroyed. however, a lot of totally destroyed. however, a tet et teete— totally destroyed. however, a lot of focus on— totally destroyed. however, a lot of focus on his— totally destroyed. however, a lot of focus on his age- however, a lot of focus on his age doesn't thet— lot of focus on his age doesn't thet me— lot of focus on his age doesn't that mean that— lot of focus on his age doesn't that mean that he's very experienced— that mean that he's very experienced at- that mean that he's very experienced at this guy has been in experienced at this guy has been hh peththee— experienced at this guy has been hh peththee ter— experienced at this guy has been in politics for decades as well? vee— in politics for decades as well? vet thew. — in politics for decades as well? vet thew. h— in politics for decades as well? you know, i don't— in politics for decades as well? you know, i don't believe- in politics for decades as well? you know, i don't believe that it should be a question of age because we all know people who are older than 80 and who really have their act together, who, you know, can finish sentences and so on. it's not about the number, but it's certainly about his mental state. you know, his memory is bad, his his emotion , memory is bad, his his emotion, all of the symptoms of dementia, his emotions, you know, he gets over emotionally overemotional, you know, very quickly . he, um, you know, very quickly. he, um, you know, very quickly. he, um, you know, very quickly. he, um, you know, he's been making every day it's in america . there are day it's in america. there are new things, new examples of how he is losing the plot. for example , he had this, uh , event example, he had this, uh, event with, with kids , you know, take with, with kids, you know, take your children to work with you and these children were asking him easy questions and he couldn't answer them. for example , one child asked, you

example, one child asked, you know , what is the last country know, what is the last country that you visited ? and he was that you visited? and he was stumped . and then another child stumped. and then another child said it was ireland . and, you said it was ireland. and, you know, talk about is it going to be good for the uk? um you know, he didn't even come . we talked he didn't even come. we talked about this the last time he is not coming to the coronation. i mean , of course these he said he mean, of course these he said he was too it was too difficult for him, you know, physically or mentally or whatever. he didn't say mentally, but physically to make trip. and somehow make this trip. and yet somehow or other, managed to go to or other, he managed to go to ireland. so and then and ireland. so so, um, and then and then another child, you know, then another child, you know, the kids were helping him. they felt sorry for him. now, if you have a president that these little feeling sorry little kids are feeling sorry for, you know, they don't want him be so embarrassed, what him to be so embarrassed, what does that say? one child at the end said, you know, mr president, i heard you have to end said, you know, mr presback , i heard you have to end said, you know, mr presback to heard you have to end said, you know, mr presback to the rd you have to end said, you know, mr presback to the ovalu have to end said, you know, mr presback to the oval office. to end said, you know, mr presback to the oval office. she get back to the oval office. she was trying to save more was trying to save him from more embarrassment does it embarrassment. why does it metter— embarrassment. why does it metter ht— embarrassment. why does it matter if he's— embarrassment. why does it matter if he's a— embarrassment. why does it matter if he's a bit- r:i why does it matter if he's a bit wobbly, if he-e— matter if he's a bit wobbly, if me get— matter if he's a bit wobbly, if me get geet— matter if he's a bit wobbly, if he's got good people around him ? he's got good people around him a wett— he's got good people around him a wet. tet— he's got good people around him a wet. het he— he's got good people around him ? well, but he doesn't- he's got good people around him ? well, but he doesn't .- he's got good people around him ? well, but he doesn't. um, you know, it's obama who is running

the white house and biden is the puppet. so the weaker he is, you know , the more dementia he has, know, the more dementia he has, the easier it is for these people behind him to control what's going on. and that is really bad. you just dropped quite a quite a bit of a truth bomb there, carol. you're ewggeethhg— bomb there, carol. you're suggesting that- cirziirzi you're suggesting that barack obama is run suggesting that barack obama is eeyhhg— suggesting that barack obama is eeyhhg the— suggesting that barack obama is run saying the us— suggesting that barack obama is run saying the us government, hee— run saying the us government, he-e mmhhg— run saying the us government, he's running the— run saying the us government, he's running the white house. veeh— he's running the white house. veeh vee— he's running the white house. veeh vee- amt— he's running the white house. yeah yes. and where's the evhtehee— yeah yes. and where's the evidence for— yeah yes. and where's the evidence for that, carol? �*hfvhh�*rzicc evidence for that, carol? well, teeeee— evidence for that, carol? well, teeeee the— evidence for that, carol? well, because the thing policies and ideas that obama had and still has, you know, that we know that he still has, are the things that somehow joe biden, you know, is being made to promote , know, is being made to promote, you know, the leftist ideas , the you know, the leftist ideas, the all kinds of, you know , making all kinds of, you know, making hiring, for example , trans, um , hiring, for example, trans, um, people all kinds of the woke

agenda let's put it that way. the woke agenda that obama has he is getting has been getting from the beginning has been getting biden to implement. from the beginning has been getting biden to implement . and getting biden to implement. and what do you think are his chances of actually making it through the four years ? you mean through the four years? you mean if he were elected again, what he wouldn't. i mean, and that's really another aspect of this that it's very scary because in his video that he made to announce his that he's going to be a candidate again , there was be a candidate again, there was a lot of kamala harris. be a candidate again, there was a lot of kamala harris . now, as a lot of kamala harris. now, as bad as biden is, kamala harris , bad as biden is, kamala harris, in a way would be worse, or at least as bad, but in a in a different way. i mean, she's just, you know, come on, harris is laughing all the time because she still can't believe that she got to be the vice president. so um, i'm not saying that she is has by any means , but has dementia by any means, but she doesn't know how to. she wouldn't know how to be president, carol, which would be

the lesser of two evils in the white house as of 2024. a wobbly and white house as of 2024. a wobbly eht eemweet— white house as of 2024. a wobbly and confused joe— white house as of 2024. a wobbly and confused joe biden— white house as of 2024. a wobbly and confused joe biden or- �*hsvhrh’i $70?” a wobbly and confused joe biden or a hehtere— and confused joe biden or a bonkers donald— and confused joe biden or a bonkers donald trump . hahaha. bonkers donald trump. hahaha. wew— bonkers donald trump. hahaha. wew me— bonkers donald trump. hahaha. now come on, don't bait me. /rirc. now come on, don't bait me. you thew.— now come on, don't bait me. you thew. h— now come on, don't bait me. you thew. h ten-t— now come on, don't bait me. you know, i don't think— now come on, don't bait me. you know, i don't think donald trump is bonkers. um of course trump would be better . and is bonkers. um of course trump would be better. and you is bonkers. um of course trump would be better . and you know, would be better. and you know, if you look at compare trump and desantis , i mean a lot of things desantis, i mean a lot of things they agree on really. but but i in my view of what would be best, i think trump should get to be president again . well, i to be president again. well, i think that the two of them, if they could make up and be friends again like they once were , i think it would be great were, i think it would be great to have trump running for president and desantis for vice president and desantis for vice president because then desantis could go on be president could go on and be president after that. carol, could go on and be president after that . carol, having you on after that. carol, having you on is after that. carol, having you on he etweye— after that. carol, having you on is always brilliant— after that. carol, having you on is always brilliant for- carol, having you on is always brilliant for my mehtet— is always brilliant for my mental health. so my thanks to amehee— mental health. so my thanks to america's psycho— mental health. so my thanks to america's psycho theorist dr. cerete— america's psycho theorist dr. carole lieberman , an she carole lieberman, an she hermetty— carole lieberman, an she normally charges a fortune for 15

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now the government caused quite a now the government caused quite e etr— now the government caused quite e ethr etter— now the government caused quite e ethr etter e— now the government caused quite a stir after a department of teeth— a stir after a department of heetth ehe— a stir after a department of health and social care consultation- health and social care consultation hinted at a change in consultation hinted at a change he the— consultation hinted at a change he the petty— consultation hinted at a change in the policy allowing free nhs preeerhpthehe— in the policy allowing free nhs prescriptions for— in the policy allowing free nhs prescriptions for the over 60s. thve— prescriptions for the over 60s. the get— prescriptions for the over 60s. the get hete— prescriptions for the over 60s. i've got lots of— prescriptions for the over 60s. i've got lots of viewers and thetehere— i've got lots of viewers and listeners over— i've got lots of viewers and listeners over 60 who will be very— listeners over 60 who will be very werrhet— listeners over 60 who will be very worried about this, but whth— very worried about this, but whth the—

very worried about this, but with the prescription charge rhehhg— with the prescription charge rhehhg eh— with the prescription charge rhehhg eh e— with the prescription charge rising on a yearly basis and tetr— rising on a yearly basis and hem yeere— rising on a yearly basis and four years later,— rising on a yearly basis and four years later, no clarity on whether— four years later, no clarity on whether the— four years later, no clarity on whether the current policy will be whether the current policy will he hhmet. — whether the current policy will be binned. what— whether the current policy will be binned. what i'm asking, is it be binned. what i'm asking, is ht wrehg— be binned. what i'm asking, is ht wrehg ter— be binned. what i'm asking, is it wrong for the— be binned. what i'm asking, is it wrong for the government to eehehter— it wrong for the government to consider scrapping free nhs preeerhpthehe— consider scrapping free nhs prescriptions for the over 60s? wett— prescriptions for the over 60s? wett et— prescriptions for the over 60s? wett et thhe— prescriptions for the over 60s? well at this point— prescriptions for the over 60s? well at this point every friday we heve— well at this point every friday we have dialled— well at this point every friday we have dialled olan in which i tete— we have dialled olan in which i tete yew— we have dialled olan in which i take your video— we have dialled olan in which i take your video calls and two peepte— take your video calls and two peepte thet— take your video calls and two people that have— take your video calls and two people that have dialled dolan tenhght— people that have dialled dolan tehhght. twe— people that have dialled dolan tonight, two very— people that have dialled dolan tonight, two very good friends of tonight, two very good friends et the— tonight, two very good friends et the ehew— tonight, two very good friends of the show, amanda in east sweee— of the show, amanda in east sweee ehe— of the show, amanda in east sussex and robin in saint albans . amehee— sussex and robin in saint albans . amehte he— sussex and robin in saint albans .amehte he ht— sussex and robin in saint albans . amanda is it the— sussex and robin in saint albans . amanda is it the end of the party— . amanda is it the end of the perty ter— . amanda is it the end of the perty ter eve— . amanda is it the end of the party for over 60s— . amanda is it the end of the party for over 60s when it comes to party for over 60s when it comes te tree— party for over 60s when it comes to free prescription— party for over 60s when it comes to free prescription phones? whet-e— to free prescription phones? whet-e yew— to free prescription phones? what's your view ? c what's your view? um, well, it certainly looks like this government has it in for you know, the elderly population because it started with the bbc licence , if you remember, um , licence, if you remember, um, they decided that they were going to scrap or was that the bbc themselves. i forget now, but in other words, you know, the government could have prevented that i think. but they decided to scrap the bbc licence

for the over 75 and this is just another example of penalise ing the elderly and i think it's actually really cruel. i mean, you know, in other countries in europe, they really take care of their elderly population. but we just don't really seem to do that in this country. and i think it's really sad. so, no, they should definitely not be scrapping free prescriptions for over 60s because you know, once you're over 60, um , you should you're over 60, um, you should be enjoying your retirement years and making the most of life. so you know, why shouldn't you have free prescriptions when you've worked so hard all your life for everything else ? robin life for everything else? robin what? that's a fair— c g 7 robin what? that's a fair point. amehee— what? that's a fair point. amanda robin, what about those whe— amanda robin, what about those whe eh— amanda robin, what about those who can afford— amanda robin, what about those who can afford to— amanda robin, what about those who can afford to pay for their prescriptions?— who can afford to pay for their prescriptions? there are plenty of prescriptions? there are plenty er pehehehere— prescriptions? there are plenty of pensioners out— prescriptions? there are plenty of pensioners out there with a heet— of pensioners out there with a heet egg— of pensioners out there with a peer egg .— of pensioners out there with a peer egg . teth— of pensioners out there with a nest egg . robin nana yes. nest egg. robin nana yes. mark teet— nest egg. robin nana yes. mark eeet evehhhg. — nest egg. robin nana yes. mark good evening. not— nest egg. robin nana yes. mark good evening. not you,- nest egg. robin nana yes. c: i 3 not you, by the good evening. not you, by the we.— good evening. not you, by the wey. h— good evening. not you, by the wey. r em— good evening. not you, by the wey. r em wett— good evening. not you, by the wey. r em wett .— good evening. not you, by the way. i am well , no,- c: i 3 not you, by the way. i am well, no, i'm not. thm— way. i am well, no, i'm not. h-m het— way. i am well, no, i'm not. h-m het etey— way. i am well, no, i'm not. i'm not okay. you're- way. i am well, no, i'm not. you're a young

i'm not okay. you're a young ehtver— i'm not okay. you're a young ehtver rev.— i'm not okay. you're a young silver fox, not— i'm not okay. you're a young silver fox, not a— you're a young silver fox, not a pensioner. i ethtt— silver fox, not a pensioner. i ethtt vert— silver fox, not a pensioner. i still work 100%_ silver fox, not a pensioner. i still work 100% of- silver fox, not a pensioner. i still work 100% of the- silver fox, not a pensioner. i still work 100% of the time. you've got you've got at least 20 ye — you've got you've got at least ze ye aty— you've got you've got at least 20 years. my prescriptions for tree. — 20 years. my prescriptions for tree. prey.— 20 years. my prescriptions for free. okay. however- 20 years. my prescriptions for free. okay. however for i, i would be prepared to pay if i felt that it would help the nhs because i think that it's something like 89% or 90% of prescriptions are free for not just the over 60s but but under 60s and people with certain illnesses. so i think, you know, it could be looked at and if it does add if it does add a bit of money. i'll give you an example. well, when i went for a flu jab, i went to the doctors and i get it for free. if i'd gone to one of the pharmacies, it would have cost me 12 to £20. i said to the nurse, you know, i'm happy to pay nurse, you know, i'm happy to pay for this. it's once a year. no problem at all. she said, we don't know how to take the money. we don't money. we couldn't. we don't know do with the money. know what to do with the money. so i think there's you know, there's fundamental issue there's a fundamental issue with there's a fundamental issue with the of system more

the whole of the system more than, know, individuals than, say, you know, individuals just a line and saying just drawing a line and saying 60, 60 plus, et cetera. so i would personally be prepared to pay- would personally be prepared to pay. i wonder , robin, whether pay. i wonder, robin, whether this is an example , though, of this is an example, though, of an attack on older people who, as amanda has said, they've paid into their pensions , they've into their pensions, they've paid their taxes and national insurance for many, many years, decades. they've insurance for many, many years, decades . they've worked hard. decades. they've worked hard. wew— decades. they've worked hard. wew they-ve— decades. they've worked hard. now they've seen _ c7: they've worked hard. now they've seen the potential, the rwetm— now they've seen the potential, the return armament age going up . they-ve— the return armament age going up . hheyhve eee— the return armament age going up . they've seen pensions being tevet— . they've seen pensions being tevet .— . they've seen pensions being tevet . ahe— . they've seen pensions being taxed . and now— . they've seen pensions being taxed . and now they're seeing taxed. and now they're seeing the threete— taxed. and now they're seeing the threats of— taxed. and now they're seeing the threats of benefits like tree— the threats of benefits like free prescriptions going. it's an free prescriptions going. it's eh ett— free prescriptions going. it's eh ett eet— free prescriptions going. it's an all out assault on older peepte— an all out assault on older peepte .— an all out assault on older peepte . hen-t— an all out assault on older people , isn't it?- an all out assault on older people , isn't it? yeah, yeah . people, isn't it? yeah, yeah. wett— people, isn't it? yeah, yeah. wett thm— people, isn't it? yeah, yeah. wett h-m het— people, isn't it? yeah, yeah. well, i'm not again,- people, isn't it? yeah, yeah. well, i'm not again, i'm- people, isn't it? yeah, yeah. well, i'm not again, i'm not so sure . it depends, honestly . sure. it depends, honestly. depends if you're deciding whether you're going to pay for food or heating, then obviously being charged for prescriptions would be an absolute nightmare. as i said, you know, if you could means test it and those people that can afford to pay,

because there are a lot of rich, older people who could happily afford to pay if they felt that it was going to benefit the rest of the population who can't necessarily afford to pay . necessarily afford to pay. okay, amanda , a new story necessarily afford to pay. - okay, amanda , a new story that's okay, amanda, a new story that's popped— okay, amanda, a new story that's popped up— okay, amanda, a new story that's popped up today— okay, amanda, a new story that's popped up today .— okay, amanda, a new story that's popped up today , pressure on popped up today, pressure on hehheeeee— popped up today, pressure on businesses to— popped up today, pressure on businesses to have child free ehhtt— businesses to have child free areas, child free— businesses to have child free areas, child free pubs, child tree— areas, child free pubs, child free restaurants. _ areas, child free pubs, child free restaurants. what's your vhew— free restaurants. what's your view on that?— free restaurants. what's your view on that? do— free restaurants. what's your view on that? do you think that ehhttreh— view on that? do you think that ehhttreh .— view on that? do you think that ehhttreh . reh— view on that? do you think that children , ian, are— view on that? do you think that children , ian, are a public children, ian, are a public e — children, ian, are a public nuisance ? oh,- children, ian, are a public nuisance ? hcih" g: children, ian, are a public- nuisance ? oh, my goodness. um nuisance? oh, my goodness. um this is so unnecessary. i mean, i get where they're coming from that, you know, there are a lot of people that that can't take the screaming kids thing when they go out to a restaurant or shopping centre. but at the end of the day, how can you possibly separate people like this? it's kind of segregation in a way, you know, saying, oh, if you're a family, you're not welcome here. um, i mean, i personally really don't like it when you're

on a plane or in a shop and you've got a baby wailing all the time and, you know, screaming kids everywhere. but that's what kids do . that's what that's what kids do. that's what babies do. they can't help it, you know? and if we live in a world where we say, oh, you know, we have to have child free zones because, you know, we need peace and quiet. i mean, no , no, peace and quiet. i mean, no, no, you can't live in a world like that. can see where they're that. so i can see where they're coming from that the you know, they're trying to sort of appease a certain group of people that want to have this, you know, very calm environment where they go out and they have, you know, no children making any noise for them . but it's not noise for them. but it's not i don't think it's a very good situation in general because it creates another form of segregation. well, i agree . segregation. well, i agree. amanda, briefly, if you can, heeewee— amanda, briefly, if you can, heeewee h— amanda, briefly, if you can, because i went— amanda, briefly, if you can, because i went to a wedding where— because i went to a wedding where children— because i went to a wedding where children were banned and it where children were banned and ht wee— where children were banned and it was rubbish— where children were banned and it was rubbish and— where children were banned and it was rubbish and the couple prete— it was rubbish and the couple hrete ep— it was rubbish and the couple broke up about— it was rubbish and the couple broke up about a— it was rubbish and the couple broke up about a year later. at.— broke up about a year later. oh there— broke up about a year later. oh there yet — broke up about a year later. oh, there you go— broke up about a year later. oh, there you go .— broke up about a year later. oh, there you go . i- broke up about a year later. oh, there you go. i mean, it just yeah, it goes to show that they're perhaps not very nice people, you know. yeah, well,

they've. that's people, you know. yeah, well, they've . that's it. robin what they've. that's it. robin what do they've. that's it. robin what te yew— they've. that's it. robin what te yew thhhte— they've. that's it. robin what do you think? i— that's it. robin what do you think? i don't know if yeve— do you think? i don't know if yeve get— do you think? i don't know if you've got kids.— do you think? i don't know if you've got kids. have you got hhte— you've got kids. have you got the e — you've got kids. have you got the e wee.— you've got kids. have you got the e wee. h— you've got kids. have you got kids ? yes, i do.— you've got kids. have you got kids ? yes, i do. i- you've got kids. have you got kids ? h/rzitir ririr you've got kids. have you got kids ? h/rzitir r:r:ir you've got kids. have you got kids ? /r:is ririr ris kids? yes, i do. i have two kids and two grandkids. so i bet they're smashes all of the nightmares. and what do you thhhte— nightmares. and what do you thhhte h— nightmares. and what do you think? i mean,— nightmares. and what do you think? i mean, you- " gxflihiris and what do you think? i mean, you go to italy , think? i mean, you go to italy, rhghte— think? i mean, you go to italy, rhghte thm— think? i mean, you go to italy, right? i'm sure— think? i mean, you go to italy, right? i'm sure you've been to htety— right? i'm sure you've been to htety eh— right? i'm sure you've been to htety eh yew— right? i'm sure you've been to italy on your holidays, robin. they— italy on your holidays, robin. hhey heve— italy on your holidays, robin. they love kids— italy on your holidays, robin. they love kids there. why are we so they love kids there. why are we ee ehhppy— they love kids there. why are we ee ehhppy eheet— they love kids there. why are we so chippy about people ? so chippy about small people? they— so chippy about small people? they teve— so chippy about small people? they love kids.— so chippy about small people? they love kids. i— so chippy about small people? they love kids. i love- so chippy about small people? they love kids. i love kids. but there are certain places i think amanda's right. i mean, if you go to a let's call it a, you know, a relatively posh restaurant, the last thing you want is any screaming kids. i'll give you one example. when we lived in new york, we used to go to the movies and we'd be sitting in some r—rated movies. and suddenly behind us would be some little kid brought out by their parents because they can't get babysitters some baby get babysitters or some baby scream ing. and, you know, that was kind of discombobulating , was kind of discombobulating, shall we say. but the worst for me is i do the park run on a saturday morning. the five k the

worst thing is when they're trying to give you directions and tell you what to do, that people who have dogs barking and you can't hear anything now they can control those dogs. yeah t right. look at you with your park runs on a saturday. i'll have to watch you in action. i'm sure you look excellent in lycra. amanda robin loved the dial. dolan will do it again very soon. thank you so much. if you'd like to be part of dial dolan, drop me a at gb news dolan, drop me a line at gb news .uk. well, a busy two hours to come. my take at ten, i'll be deaung come. my take at ten, i'll be dealing with matt hancock. but next up , i've got bbc dealing with matt hancock. but next up, i've got bbc in my next up, i've got the bbc in my sights and you won't want to miss it .

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decision was made after a decrease in the number of requests for help . so far, requests for help. so far, british forces have rescued more than 1500 people. what we have seen over the past 24 hours or so is a significant decline in the british nationals coming forward. now, the british nationals coming forward . now, that's what you forward. now, that's what you wette— forward. now, that's what you wewtt expect.— forward. now, that's what you would expect. it's— : now, that's what you would expect. it's what's heppehet— would expect. it's what's happened with other countries . happened with other countries. so happened with other countries. se whet— happened with other countries. se whet we— happened with other countries. so what we are— happened with other countries. so what we are saying now is thet— so what we are saying now is thet peepte— so what we are saying now is that people should expect within the next— that people should expect within the next aa— that people should expect within the next 24 hours.— that people should expect within the next 24 hours. so by 6:00 uk thme— the next 24 hours. so by 6:00 uk time tomorrow— the next 24 hours. so by 6:00 uk time tomorrow for— the next 24 hours. so by 6:00 uk time tomorrow for us to cease theee— time tomorrow for us to cease theee tthghte— time tomorrow for us to cease those flights . _ time tomorrow for us to cease those flights . “i: those flights. richard sharp has resigned as chairman of the bbc after a report found that he breached the rules for public appointments . the review says he appointments. the review says he failed to properly disclose his involvement in facilitating an £800,000 loan guarantee for bods £800,000 loan guarantee for boris johnson. mr sharp says the breach was inadvertent , but boris johnson. mr sharp says the breach was inadvertent, but he's quitting to prioritise the interests of the broadcaster , interests of the broadcaster, following calls from labour that he should have been sacked. the

prime minister says the right process was followed . this is process was followed. this is about process was followed. this is ehewt tehhg— process was followed. this is about doing things- i : this is about doing things properly and preteeehehetty— about doing things properly and professionally and when concerns are professionally and when concerns reheet— professionally and when concerns reheet hte— professionally and when concerns are raised it's right— professionally and when concerns are raised it's right that there is are raised it's right that there he e— are raised it's right that there he e preper— are raised it's right that there is a proper process , an is a proper process, an independent- is a proper process, an independent process that we eeh-t— independent process that we eeh-t pretetge. — independent process that we don't prejudge. we allow it to eemy— don't prejudge. we allow it to eerry eh— don't prejudge. we allow it to eerry eh eht— don't prejudge. we allow it to carry on and establish the facts of carry on and establish the facts et whet— carry on and establish the facts of what happened, reach a conclusion— of what happened, reach a conclusion that's happened . conclusion that's happened. thehert— conclusion that's happened. richard sharp— conclusion that's happened. richard sharp has resigned, but it's richard sharp has resigned, but ht-e rhght— richard sharp has resigned, but the rhght thet— richard sharp has resigned, but it's right that we— richard sharp has resigned, but it's right that we do these thhhge— it's right that we do these things properly and professionally. think most professionally. i think most peepte— professionally. i think most peepte-thet- professionally. i think most people that that's people will think that that's the rhght— people will think that that's the right thing— people will think that that's the right thing do. so the right thing to do. so scotland's— the right thing to do. so scotland's has scotland's police watchdog has tewhehet— scotland's police watchdog has launched investigation into launched an investigation into the-e— launched an investigation into the-e pregheht- launched an investigation into the a pregnant teacher. the death of a pregnant teacher. the— the death of a pregnant teacher. the announcement— the death of a pregnant teacher. the announcement comes- the death of a pregnant teacher. the announcement comes after police found the body of her missing partner at a reservoir near glasgow. officers had been looking for 36 year old david yates after morrell sturrock was killed at a home on tuesday. she was 29 weeks pregnant and her unborn baby did not survive . mr unborn baby did not survive. mr yates's death is not being treated as suspicious . unions treated as suspicious. unions representing teachers and headteachers in england say they will take co—ordinated strike

action in the autumn after accusing the government of wanting education on the cheap. the general secretaries of four unions say they'll now work together in their long running dispute over pay after they rejected the government's offer of a one off payment of £1,000 and an average pay rise of 4.5% next year. the national association of head teachers says the decision sends a clear signal to the government that the dispute is not going away . the dispute is not going away. and health workers belonging to the gmb union have accepted the government's 5% offer. gmb officials say they will now vote to accept the offer at a meeting of the nhs staff council next week. health secretary steve barclay says the deal rikki neave raises the outstanding job that nhs staff do whilst protecting the government's commitment to halving inflation on tv online , on dab+ radio and on tv online, on dab+ radio and of course on tune in to this is gb news. back now to .

gb news. back now to. mark my thanks to ray addison, who's back at 10:00. welcome to mark peteh— back at 10:00. welcome to mark peteh tehhght— back at 10:00. welcome to mark dolan tonight on— back at10:00. welcome to mark dolan tonight on a— i �*0 00 welcome to mark dolan tonight on a friday. we've got dolan tonight on a friday. we've get thet— dolan tonight on a friday. we've get thet trhtey— dolan tonight on a friday. we've got that friday feeling in my big got that friday feeling in my hhg ephhheh— got that friday feeling in my big opinion the— got that friday feeling in my big opinion the bbc losing their ehehrmeh— big opinion the bbc losing their ehehrmeh he— big opinion the bbc losing their chairman is the— big opinion the bbc losing their chairman is the least of their prehteme— chairman is the least of their prehteme. aty— chairman is the least of their problems. my reaction to the hemhehett— problems. my reaction to the bombshell departure for today of eeeh— bombshell departure for today of heeh teee— bombshell departure for today of beeb boss richard— bombshell departure for today of beeb boss richard sharp, who, it teme— beeb boss richard sharp, who, it twme eet.— beeb boss richard sharp, who, it turns out, isn't— beeb boss richard sharp, who, it turns out, isn't sharp at all in the— turns out, isn't sharp at all in the tthg— turns out, isn't sharp at all in the hhg etery— turns out, isn't sharp at all in the big story. our— turns out, isn't sharp at all in the big story. our changes to gemhthhg— the big story. our changes to gambling rules— the big story. our changes to gambling rules ,_ the big story. our changes to gambling rules , an example of gambling rules, an example of the eemy— gambling rules, an example of the nanny state— gambling rules, an example of the nanny state in overdrive. do you— the nanny state in overdrive. do yee eer-ey— the nanny state in overdrive. do yee ehtey e— the nanny state in overdrive. do you enjoy a harmless flutter? do we the— you enjoy a harmless flutter? do we run the risk— you enjoy a harmless flutter? do we run the risk of— you enjoy a harmless flutter? do we run the risk of demonising gemhtere— we run the risk of demonising gemhtere eht— we run the risk of demonising gamblers and treating them like ehhttreh— gamblers and treating them like ehhttreh e— gamblers and treating them like ehhttreh e aty— gamblers and treating them like children ? my mark meets guest is children? my mark meets guest is tv children? my mark meets guest is hv eemety— children? my mark meets guest is hv eemety heh— children? my mark meets guest is tv comedy icon vicki michelle eht— tv comedy icon vicki michelle ege .— tv comedy icon vicki michelle opt . eter— tv comedy icon vicki michelle opt . eter et— tv comedy icon vicki michelle obe , star of eastenders and of obe, star of eastenders and of course, yvette _ obe, star of eastenders and of course, yvette carte—blanche trem— course, yvette carte—blanche trem atte— course, yvette carte—blanche from allo allo._ course, yvette carte—blanche from allo allo. could they get ewey— from allo allo. could they get ewey whth— from allo allo. could they get away with such— from allo allo. could they get away with such naughty comedy in mee— away with such naughty comedy in zozee h-tt— away with such naughty comedy in zozee h-tt he— away with such naughty comedy in 2023? i'll be asking— away with such naughty comedy in 2023? i'll be asking vicki hetere— 2023? i'll be asking vicki before ten. _ 2023? i'll be asking vicki before ten. after ten. in my tete— before ten. after ten. in my tete et— before ten. after ten. in my tete et teh— before ten. after ten. in my take at ten, i'll— before ten. after ten. in my take at ten, i'll be dealing

whth— take at ten, i'll be dealing whth cowo— take at ten, i'll be dealing with covid hypocrite matt heheeet. — with covid hypocrite matt hancock. the— with covid hypocrite matt hancock. the cruel unions that went— hancock. the cruel unions that went te— hancock. the cruel unions that went te mh— hancock. the cruel unions that want to ruin the— hancock. the cruel unions that want to ruin the fa cup final eht— want to ruin the fa cup final eht et— want to ruin the fa cup final and of course— want to ruin the fa cup final and of course eurovision and my phee— and of course eurovision and my ptee te— and of course eurovision and my plea to iceland— and of course eurovision and my plea to iceland ,_ and of course eurovision and my plea to iceland , the plea to iceland, the supermarkets to keep their threetehet— supermarkets to keep their threatened stores open save our heetemt— threatened stores open save our iceland. that's— threatened stores open save our iceland. that's after ten. my newsmaker tonight is the teerteee— newsmaker tonight is the fearless political commentator ete— fearless political commentator ete eettrey— fearless political commentator eater, godfrey bloom. i'll be eethhg— eater, godfrey bloom. i'll be asking godfrey— eater, godfrey bloom. i'll be asking godfrey as a new cabinet mhhheter— asking godfrey as a new cabinet minister faces— asking godfrey as a new cabinet minister faces accusations of hettyhhg— minister faces accusations of hettyhhg .— minister faces accusations of hettyhhg . amt— minister faces accusations of bullying . and these accusations bullying. and these accusations tehtet— bullying. and these accusations tehtet hh— bullying. and these accusations landed in the— bullying. and these accusations landed in the guardian newspaper , of landed in the guardian newspaper . et ett— landed in the guardian newspaper . et ett pteeee— landed in the guardian newspaper , of all places, is— landed in the guardian newspaper , of all places, is our increasingly- , of all places, is our increasingly political civil eervhee— increasingly political civil service working against the will of service working against the will et the— service working against the will of the british— service working against the will of the british people ? you won't of the british people? you won't wept— of the british people? you won't weht te— of the british people? you won't weht te rmee— of the british people? you won't want to miss godfrey after ten hert— want to miss godfrey after ten ttert peteh— want to miss godfrey after ten mark dolan tonight is the home of mark dolan tonight is the home et the— mark dolan tonight is the home er the pepere— mark dolan tonight is the home of the papers with— mark dolan tonight is the home of the papers with tomorrow's trem— of the papers with tomorrow's treht pegee— of the papers with tomorrow's treht pegee et— of the papers with tomorrow's front pages at exactly 1030 eherp— front pages at exactly 1030 eherp whth— front pages at exactly 1030 sharp with three top pundits who heveh-t— sharp with three top pundits who heveh-t peeh— sharp with three top pundits who haven't been told— sharp with three top pundits who haven't been told what to say eht— haven't been told what to say eht whe— haven't been told what to say and who don't— haven't been told what to say and who don't follow the script . hehhght— and who don't follow the script . tonight, leader— and who don't follow the script . tonight, leader of ukip and termer— . tonight, leader of ukip and former conservative mp neil hemhtteh— former conservative mp neil hamilton, tv— former conservative mp neil hamilton, tv personality and hreeteeeter— hamilton, tv personality and broadcaster precious muir and termer— broadcaster precious muir and termer reyet— broadcaster precious muir and former royal editor of the sun

mwepeper— former royal editor of the sun newspaper, journalist duncan tereemhe— newspaper, journalist duncan tereemhe .— newspaper, journalist duncan larcombe . tonight, i'll be larcombe. tonight, i'll be eethhg— larcombe. tonight, i'll be eethhg my— larcombe. tonight, i'll be asking my pundits as almost 60 peepte— asking my pundits as almost 60 peepte hhtere— asking my pundits as almost 60 people injure themselves in one teeetheh— people injure themselves in one location, have— people injure themselves in one location, have psycho villains heme— location, have psycho villains heme e— location, have psycho villains become a joke— location, have psycho villains become a joke as— location, have psycho villains become a joke as it's revealed thet— become a joke as it's revealed thet eete— become a joke as it's revealed thet eete et— become a joke as it's revealed that 60% of brits— become a joke as it's revealed that 60% of brits that's right heh— that 60% of brits that's right hett et— that 60% of brits that's right over half of brits wouldn't vote for over half of brits wouldn't vote ter ye — over half of brits wouldn't vote ter ye are— over half of brits wouldn't vote for anyone. are you politically hemeteeee— for anyone. are you politically homeless? and— for anyone. are you politically homeless? and as a sperm donor, tethere— homeless? and as a sperm donor, tethere .— homeless? and as a sperm donor, tethere . eee— homeless? and as a sperm donor, fathers , 600 children should fathers, 600 children should there— fathers, 600 children should there he— fathers, 600 children should there he e— fathers, 600 children should there be a limit— fathers, 600 children should there be a limit to how many etteprhhg— there be a limit to how many etteprhhg yee— there be a limit to how many offspring you can— there be a limit to how many offspring you can parent? i'll be offspring you can parent? i'll he eethhg— offspring you can parent? i'll be asking neil— offspring you can parent? i'll be asking neil that one, and i'm he-tt— be asking neil that one, and i'm he-tt he— be asking neil that one, and i'm sure he'll be sweating. plus, yew— sure he'll be sweating. plus, yew emehte— sure he'll be sweating. plus, your emails, especially the spicy— your emails, especially the ephey — your emails, especially the spicy ones. mark at gb news .uk. amt— spicy ones. mark at gb news .uk. and the— spicy ones. mark at gb news .uk. and this programme has a strict getteh— and this programme has a strict getteh rwte— and this programme has a strict getteh rwte. we— and this programme has a strict golden rule. we don't do boring. not golden rule. we don't do boring. wet eh— golden rule. we don't do boring. wet eh my— golden rule. we don't do boring. not on my watch— golden rule. we don't do boring. not on my watch .— golden rule. we don't do boring. not on my watch . i— golden rule. we don't do boring. not on my watch . i just won't not on my watch. i just won't heve— not on my watch. i just won't heve ht.— not on my watch. i just won't heve ht. amt— not on my watch. i just won't have it. and don't— not on my watch. i just won't have it. and don't forget a week tetey— have it. and don't forget a week tetey .— have it. and don't forget a week tetey . evereeg— have it. and don't forget a week today , coverage of— have it. and don't forget a week today , coverage of the today, coverage of the coronation _ today, coverage of the coronation begins here on gb wewe— coronation begins here on gb wewe eht— coronation begins here on gb wewe eht eh— coronation begins here on gb news and on mark dolan . tonight news and on mark dolan. tonight i'll news and on mark dolan. tonight h-tt he— news and on mark dolan. tonight h-tt he et— news and on mark dolan. tonight h-tt he et the— news and on mark dolan. tonight i'll be at the palace— news and on mark dolan. tonight i'll be at the palace on friday hhght— i'll be at the palace on friday hhght. e— i'll be at the palace on friday hhght. e weet— i'll be at the palace on friday night, a week today on the eve of night, a week today on the eve et the— night, a week today on the eve et the th— night, a week today on the eve of the big event.— night, a week today on the eve of the big event. eight till 11 whth— of the big event. eight till 11 whth tep— of the big event. eight till 11 whth tep reyet— of the big event. eight till 11 with top royal authors, experts, tewrhethete. — with top royal authors, experts,

journalists. you _ with top royal authors, experts, journalists. you name it. and of course, we're on air— journalists. you name it. and of course, we're on air for the cerehetheh— course, we're on air for the coronation all— course, we're on air for the coronation all day saturday mark heteh— coronation all day saturday mark heteh hehhght— coronation all day saturday mark dolan tonight from 9:00 on setwrtey. — dolan tonight from 9:00 on saturday. we've— dolan tonight from 9:00 on saturday. we've got it covered. hete— saturday. we've got it covered. tete te— saturday. we've got it covered. tete te get— saturday. we've got it covered. lots to get through. but first, my big— lots to get through. but first, my hhg ephhheh— lots to get through. but first, my big opinion -_ lots to get through. but first, my big opinion . the bbc lost my big opinion. the bbc lost thehr— my big opinion. the bbc lost their chairman— my big opinion. the bbc lost their chairman today but lost their chairman today but lost the ptet— their chairman today but lost the ptet yeere— their chairman today but lost the plot years ago . our state the plot years ago. our state broadcaster,— the plot years ago. our state broadcaster, which scratches by on broadcaster, which scratches by eh e eeeh— broadcaster, which scratches by we e eeet as— broadcaster, which scratches by on a cool £5 billion every year, 3 on a cool £5 billion every year, p then— on a cool £5 billion every year, e hhttheh et— on a cool £5 billion every year, 3 billion of which— on a cool £5 billion every year, 3 billion of which comes from gremhee— 3 billion of which comes from gremhee whe— 3 billion of which comes from grannies who are— 3 billion of which comes from grannies who are threatened with jail grannies who are threatened with pet ht— grannies who are threatened with pet ht they— grannies who are threatened with jail if they don't— grannies who are threatened with jail if they don't pay up. is tetey— jail if they don't pay up. is tetey mhret— jail if they don't pay up. is today mired in— jail if they don't pay up. is today mired in a political erhehe— today mired in a political erhehe ee— today mired in a political crisis as their— today mired in a political crisis as their head honcho? hhehert— crisis as their head honcho? richard sharpe— crisis as their head honcho? richard sharpe ,_ crisis as their head honcho? richard sharpe , who, it turns richard sharpe, who, it turns out:— richard sharpe, who, it turns ewt. heh-t— richard sharpe, who, it turns ewt. heh-t very— richard sharpe, who, it turns out, isn't very sharp, richard sharpe, who, it turns out, isn't very sharp , leaves out, isn't very sharp, leaves the— out, isn't very sharp, leaves the organisation— out, isn't very sharp, leaves the organisation . this after his the organisation. this after his ahooeoe— the organisation. this after his £800,000 loan— the organisation. this after his £800,000 loan to— the organisation. this after his £800,000 loan to you guessed it, the heme— £800,000 loan to you guessed it, the former prime— £800,000 loan to you guessed it, the former prime minister boris rehheeh. — the former prime minister boris rehheeh. hhte— the former prime minister boris johnson. this payment was deemed hheppreprhete— johnson. this payment was deemed hheppreprhete .— johnson. this payment was deemed hheppreprhete . tth— johnson. this payment was deemed inappropriate , i'll say, as inappropriate, i'll say, as a remhhter— inappropriate, i'll say, as a remhhter .— inappropriate, i'll say, as a reminder , of— inappropriate, i'll say, as a reminder , of course it is worth reminder, of course it is worth retteethhg— reminder, of course it is worth reflecting that— reminder, of course it is worth reflecting that our talented and eherhemethe— reflecting that our talented and charismatic ex—pm brings trouble

wherever, wherever— charismatic ex—pm brings trouble wherever, wherever he goes . you wherever, wherever he goes. you ett— wherever, wherever he goes. you ett the— wherever, wherever he goes. you can add the word— wherever, wherever he goes. you can add the word scandal to heme— can add the word scandal to heme meey— can add the word scandal to boris's many other middle names. so boris's many other middle names. se whe— boris's many other middle names. se whe ehewtt— boris's many other middle names. so who should step— boris's many other middle names. so who should step into this ew— so who should step into this at— so who should step into this at the— so who should step into this row? at the worst possible time for row? at the worst possible time her the — row? at the worst possible time for the organisation? enter etege— for the organisation? enter etege tert— for the organisation? enter stage left and— for the organisation? enter stage left and from the peththeet— stage left and from the political left,- stage left and from the political left, it's the highest pett— political left, it's the highest peht eter— political left, it's the highest peht eter et— political left, it's the highest paid star at the— political left, it's the highest paid star at the beeb. britain's meet— paid star at the beeb. britain's meet temewe— paid star at the beeb. britain's most famous man— paid star at the beeb. britain's most famous man of colour , most famous man of colour, ex—footballer_ most famous man of colour, ex—footballer gary lineker , who ex—footballer gary lineker, who has ex—footballer gary lineker, who hee tweetet — ex—footballer gary lineker, who has tweeted the— ex—footballer gary lineker, who has tweeted the following. the hht— has tweeted the following. the bbc chairman— has tweeted the following. the bbc chairman should not be eeteetet— bbc chairman should not be eeteetet hy— bbc chairman should not be selected by the— bbc chairman should not be selected by the government of the they.— selected by the government of the they. het— selected by the government of the day, not now,— selected by the government of the day, not now, not ever. thheter-e— the day, not now, not ever. lineker's reported promise to etey— lineker's reported promise to etey ewt— lineker's reported promise to etey ewt et— lineker's reported promise to stay out of politics given that hee— stay out of politics given that he-e eh— stay out of politics given that he's an employee of the state hreeteeeter— he's an employee of the state broadcaster lasted about 11 mhwtee— broadcaster lasted about 11 minutes. it's— broadcaster lasted about 11 minutes. it's funny because i eeh-t— minutes. it's funny because i don't remember— minutes. it's funny because i don't remember gary lineker eemptehhhhg— don't remember gary lineker complaining about new labour eppehhtet— complaining about new labour appointed chairman under tony htehr— appointed chairman under tony htehr eht— appointed chairman under tony blair and gordon— appointed chairman under tony blair and gordon brown. the role of blair and gordon brown. the role et chehrmeh— blair and gordon brown. the role of chairman has— blair and gordon brown. the role of chairman has always been peththeet— of chairman has always been peththeet ee— of chairman has always been political, as is— of chairman has always been political, as is the role of teeth— political, as is the role of tteteh et— political, as is the role of match of the _ political, as is the role of match of the day. presenter by the teete— match of the day. presenter by the teete et— match of the day. presenter by the looks of it— match of the day. presenter by the looks of it ,_ match of the day. presenter by the looks of it , ultimately the the looks of it, ultimately the heeh— the looks of it, ultimately the heeh heve— the looks of it, ultimately the beeb have lost— the looks of it, ultimately the beeb have lost their chairman, but beeb have lost their chairman, hwt thet-e— beeb have lost their chairman, but that's the _ beeb have lost their chairman, but that's the least of their prehteme— but that's the least of their problems. the— but that's the least of their problems. the way that this job is problems. the way that this job he eppehtett— problems. the way that this job is appointed, probably needs to be is appointed, probably needs to he teetet— is appointed, probably needs to he teetet et— is appointed, probably needs to be looked at, but— is appointed, probably needs to be looked at, but that's once they-ve—

be looked at, but that's once they've sorted _ be looked at, but that's once they've sorted out auntie's myrhet— they've sorted out auntie's myriad other— they've sorted out auntie's myriad other issues , including myriad other issues, including teetthhg— myriad other issues, including tackling woke _ myriad other issues, including tackling woke finger wagging eterythhee— tackling woke finger wagging eterythhee hh— tackling woke finger wagging storylines in shows like doctor whe— storylines in shows like doctor whe eht— storylines in shows like doctor who and great— storylines in shows like doctor who and great expectations and teetthhg— who and great expectations and teetthhg the — who and great expectations and tackling the centre left sentiment— tackling the centre left sentiment of- tackling the centre left sentiment of so much of their news coverage . don't take my news coverage. don't take my were— news coverage. don't take my were ter— news coverage. don't take my were her ht— news coverage. don't take my were her ht .— news coverage. don't take my word for it . the— news coverage. don't take my word for it . the political word for it. the political commentator— word for it. the political commentator tom sexton, and our very— commentator tom sexton, and our very ew— commentator tom sexton, and our very hem— commentator tom sexton, and our very own tom harwood point out thet— very own tom harwood point out thet e— very own tom harwood point out that a political— very own tom harwood point out that a political scandal around the warrington_ that a political scandal around the warrington borough council's teeter— the warrington borough council's leader doesn't— the warrington borough council's leader doesn't mention his peththeet— leader doesn't mention his political affiliations . a labour political affiliations. a labour peththeheh— political affiliations. a labour peththeheh .— political affiliations. a labour politician , sexton points out politician, sexton points out thet— politician, sexton points out thet they— politician, sexton points out that they have— politician, sexton points out that they have form on this now tete— that they have form on this now tete e— that they have form on this now tete e teet— that they have form on this now take a look at— that they have form on this now take a look at these graphics. hhet— take a look at these graphics. hhet eyetem— take a look at these graphics. that system has— take a look at these graphics. that system has drawn up. on the tert— that system has drawn up. on the tett. yeve— that system has drawn up. on the tett. ywve get— that system has drawn up. on the left, you've got former tory mp teeee— left, you've got former tory mp teeee eewet— left, you've got former tory mp loses sexual assault appeal bid. rteehwhhte— loses sexual assault appeal bid. meanwhile on— loses sexual assault appeal bid. meanwhile on the— loses sexual assault appeal bid. meanwhile on the right of your hmege— meanwhile on the right of your hmege tth— meanwhile on the right of your image mp convicted of harassment gete— image mp convicted of harassment gete ewepehtet— image mp convicted of harassment gets suspended sentence no mehtheh— gets suspended sentence no mehtheh et— gets suspended sentence no mention of her— gets suspended sentence no mention of her being a labour mp . hev— mention of her being a labour mp . hew ehewt— mention of her being a labour mp . how about this— mention of her being a labour mp . how about this one— mention of her being a labour mp . how about this one on the teth— . how about this one on the tette hv— . how about this one on the tette tv hery— . how about this one on the left? ex tory jailed for expenses fraud. meanwhile, on the rhght— expenses fraud. meanwhile, on the rhght ex—

expenses fraud. meanwhile, on the right ex peterborough mp tethe— the right ex peterborough mp tette et— the right ex peterborough mp tells of prison— the right ex peterborough mp tells of prison struggles again. no tells of prison struggles again. we mehtheh— tells of prison struggles again. no mention of— tells of prison struggles again. no mention of the labour party . no mention of the labour party. amt— no mention of the labour party. aht teet— no mention of the labour party. aht teet hwt— no mention of the labour party. and last but not— no mention of the labour party. and last but not least on the tett— and last but not least on the tett. chrhe— and last but not least on the left, chris pincher . new and last but not least on the left, chris pincher. new claims emege— left, chris pincher. new claims emege egehhet— left, chris pincher. new claims emerge against former tory mp . emerge against former tory mp. rteehwhhte— emerge against former tory mp. rteehwhhte eh— emerge against former tory mp. meanwhile on the— emerge against former tory mp. meanwhile on the right, jack ethere— meanwhile on the right, jack o'mara, former— meanwhile on the right, jack o'mara, former mp jailed over asheoo. — o'mara, former mp jailed over £52,000. fraud— o'mara, former mp jailed over £52,000. fraud to— o'mara, former mp jailed over £52,000. fraud to pay drug debts . rew-tt— £52,000. fraud to pay drug debts . rew-ht hever— £52,000. fraud to pay drug debts . you'll never guess— £52,000. fraud to pay drug debts . you'll never guess which peththeet— . you'll never guess which peththeet perty— . you'll never guess which political party he represents , political party he represents, so political party he represents, ee the— political party he represents, ee the h— political party he represents, ee the h hwt— political party he represents, so the b but needs to nail peththeet— so the b but needs to nail political balance. the beeb also heete— political balance. the beeb also heete te— political balance. the beeb also heete te get— political balance. the beeb also needs to get rid— political balance. the beeb also needs to get rid or— political balance. the beeb also needs to get rid or at least axe the— needs to get rid or at least axe the eeterhee— needs to get rid or at least axe the salaries of— needs to get rid or at least axe the salaries of their overpaid teteht— the salaries of their overpaid teteht eht— the salaries of their overpaid talent and those— the salaries of their overpaid talent and those executive wives whe— talent and those executive wives whe wewtth-t— talent and those executive wives who wouldn't command those fees in who wouldn't command those fees he the— who wouldn't command those fees he the prhvete— who wouldn't command those fees in the private sector— who wouldn't command those fees in the private sector and the heeh — in the private sector and the beeb should— in the private sector and the beeb should look after older etere— beeb should look after older etere hhte— beeb should look after older stars like the— beeb should look after older stars like the popular ken hrwee— stars like the popular ken hrwee the— stars like the popular ken bruce, the jewel in the crown of tethe— bruce, the jewel in the crown of tette twe— bruce, the jewel in the crown of radio two, who— bruce, the jewel in the crown of radio two, who has— bruce, the jewel in the crown of radio two, who has now gone tettewhhg— radio two, who has now gone tettewhhg hh— radio two, who has now gone following in the— radio two, who has now gone following in the footsteps of the brilliant— following in the footsteps of the brilliant steve wright, veheeee — the brilliant steve wright, vanessa feltz_ the brilliant steve wright, vanessa feltz and simon mayo . vanessa feltz and simon mayo. hhe— vanessa feltz and simon mayo. hhe heeh— vanessa feltz and simon mayo. the beeb need— vanessa feltz and simon mayo. the beeb need to— vanessa feltz and simon mayo. the beeb need to stop criminalising- the beeb need to stop criminalising non payment of the— criminalising non payment of thhe tex— criminalising non payment of thhe tev eht— criminalising non payment of this tax and accept that forcing

peepte— this tax and accept that forcing peepte te— this tax and accept that forcing people to pay— this tax and accept that forcing people to pay for_ this tax and accept that forcing people to pay for a service many eeh-t— people to pay for a service many teh-t weteh— people to pay for a service many teh-t weteh he— people to pay for a service many don't watch is completely wrong . hte— don't watch is completely wrong . ht-e my— don't watch is completely wrong . ht-e my vhew— don't watch is completely wrong . it's my view that— don't watch is completely wrong . it's my view that the bbc must etey.— . it's my view that the bbc must etey. hwt— . it's my view that the bbc must stay, hwt the— . it's my view that the bbc must stay, but the licence fee must go .— stay, but the licence fee must go, 90r— stay, but the licence fee must go, go, go- _ stay, but the licence fee must ge . ge. ge. rte— stay, but the licence fee must go , go, go. it's time for the go, go, go. it's time for the heeh— go, go, go. it's time for the heeh te— go, go, go. it's time for the beeb to remember not just its tewhthhg— beeb to remember not just its founding principles to inform, etweete— founding principles to inform, etweete eht— founding principles to inform, educate and entertain, but to eemmht— educate and entertain, but to eemmht preperty— educate and entertain, but to commit properly to political hewtrethty— commit properly to political neutrality and _ commit properly to political neutrality and to get over hrexht— neutrality and to get over hrevht eht— neutrality and to get over brexit and to,— neutrality and to get over brexit and to, as the british broadcasting— brexit and to, as the british broadcasting corporation akua big up— broadcasting corporation akua hhg wp hrhtehh— broadcasting corporation akua big up britain rather than eheerhhg— big up britain rather than eheerhhg et— big up britain rather than sneering at the flag which they-re— sneering at the flag which they're breakfast tv presenters temewety— they're breakfast tv presenters temewety thet— they're breakfast tv presenters famously did, or— they're breakfast tv presenters famously did, or ditching land of famously did, or ditching land et hepe— famously did, or ditching land er hepe eht— famously did, or ditching land of hope and glory from last hhght— of hope and glory from last hhght et— of hope and glory from last hhght et the— of hope and glory from last night at the proms and the bbc has night at the proms and the bbc hee te— night at the proms and the bbc hee te ee— night at the proms and the bbc has to once again— night at the proms and the bbc has to once again represent all of has to once again represent all et the— has to once again represent all of the british— has to once again represent all of the british people, not just a of the british people, not just e emett— of the british people, not just a small pocket— of the british people, not just a small pocket of them residing in a small pocket of them residing hh hethhgteh— a small pocket of them residing in islington in— a small pocket of them residing in islington in north london. the— in islington in north london. the hhe— in islington in north london. the bbc have— in islington in north london. the bbc have lost their chairman tetey— the bbc have lost their chairman tetey. hwt— the bbc have lost their chairman tetey. hwt ht— the bbc have lost their chairman today, but if they're _ the bbc have lost their chairman today, but if they're not eeretwt— today, but if they're not careful in— today, but if they're not careful in time , they'll lose careful in time, they'll lose a whete— careful in time, they'll lose a whete tet— careful in time, they'll lose a whole lot more— careful in time, they'll lose a whole lot more than that .

whole lot more than that. they — whole lot more than that. etey. whet-e— whole lot more than that. okay. what's your reaction to my big okay. what's your reaction to my hhg ephhheh— okay. what's your reaction to my big opinion market? gb news .uk. i'll big opinion market? gb news .uk. h-tt me— big opinion market? gb news .uk. h-tt te— big opinion market? gb news .uk. i'll come to your— big opinion market? gb news .uk. i'll come to your emails after the— i'll come to your emails after the treet— i'll come to your emails after the break, but— i'll come to your emails after the break, but reacting to my big the break, but reacting to my hhg ephhheh— the break, but reacting to my big opinion and— the break, but reacting to my big opinion and the big stories of big opinion and the big stories et the— big opinion and the big stories et the they— big opinion and the big stories et the tey .— big opinion and the big stories of the day , we've— big opinion and the big stories of the day , we've got the leader of the day, we've got the leader of the day, we've got the leader et thhh— of the day, we've got the leader et hth eht— of the day, we've got the leader of ukip and former— of the day, we've got the leader of ukip and former tory mp neil hemhtteh— of ukip and former tory mp neil hemhtteh eh— of ukip and former tory mp neil hamilton on tv— of ukip and former tory mp neil hamilton on tv personality and hreeteeet— hamilton on tv personality and broadcast precious muir and termer— broadcast precious muir and temee reyet— broadcast precious muir and former royal editor at the sun hewepeper— former royal editor at the sun hewepeper .— former royal editor at the sun newspaper , duncan larcombe. newspaper, duncan larcombe. hwreeh— newspaper, duncan larcombe. hwheeh tet— newspaper, duncan larcombe. hwheeh tet me— newspaper, duncan larcombe. duncan let me start with you. the— duncan let me start with you. the tepertwre— duncan let me start with you. the departure of— duncan let me start with you. the departure of the bbc's ehehrmeh— the departure of the bbc's ehehrmeh .— the departure of the bbc's chairman , richard sharp. i think chairman, richard sharp. i think thet-e— chairman, richard sharp. i think thet-e e— chairman, richard sharp. i think thet-e e tett— chairman, richard sharp. i think that's a fait accompli . it had that's a fait accompli. it had to that's a fait accompli. it had te heppeh— that's a fait accompli. it had te heppeh. hwt— that's a fait accompli. it had to happen, but there are wider issues within— to happen, but there are wider issues within the— to happen, but there are wider issues within the organisation. wett— issues within the organisation. wett there— issues within the organisation. well there are. _ issues within the organisation. well there are. i— issues within the organisation. well there are. i mean, i'll ghve— well there are. i mean, i'll ghve yew— well there are. i mean, i'll ghve yew eh— well there are. i mean, i'll give you an example. i've just eehet— give you an example. i've just eertet the— give you an example. i've just sorted the accreditation out for the royal wedding for the royal coronation and there's more than 300 odd accredited stations giving out to the bbc. the duplication of an organisation that huge. it's not good value for money and if it were a pubuc for money and if it were a public private sector rather than public, i think it would be a lot more streamlined and just as effective from a news point of view. well, let me tell you,

gb of view. well, let me tell you, eh hewe— of view. well, let me tell you, eh wewe hth— of view. well, let me tell you, gb news, i'll be— . well, let me tell you, gb news, i'll be going down with pretweer— gb news, i'll be going down with pretweer meg.— gb news, i'll be going down with producer greg, and— gb news, i'll be going down with producer greg, and that's about it, producer greg, and that's about i, heewee— producer greg, and that's about it, because we— producer greg, and that's about it, because we run— producer greg, and that's about it, because we run a tight ship here— it, because we run a tight ship here et— it, because we run a tight ship here ethewe— it, because we run a tight ship here at.news and- it, because we run a tight ship here at news and we see that here at gb news and we see that whether— here at gb news and we see that whether hte— here at gb news and we see that whether it's successful podcasts trem— whether it's successful podcasts trem the— whether it's successful podcasts from the likes— whether it's successful podcasts from the likes of— whether it's successful podcasts from the likes of joe rogan, who etteethvety— effectively does the most thetehet— effectively does the most listened the listened to radio show on the ptehet— listened to radio show on the ptehet-gerege.- listened to radio show on the planet garage, the bbc planet from his garage, the bbc has planet from his garage, the bbc hee te— planet from his garage, the bbc hee te ewt— planet from his garage, the bbc hee te ewt hte— planet from his garage, the bbc has to cut its cloth— planet from his garage, the bbc has to cut its cloth and live in the— has to cut its cloth and live in the reet— has to cut its cloth and live in the real world. _ has to cut its cloth and live in the real world. �*vhvhh'ricc the real world. well, i think so. and i think i think that you can't have removal of competition at the local level. you think of local radio, local heepeepe— you think of local radio, local newspapers, the _ you think of local radio, local newspapers, the bbc is hoovering up newspapers, the bbc is hoovering wp ett— newspapers, the bbc is hoovering wp ett et— newspapers, the bbc is hoovering wp ett et thhe— newspapers, the bbc is hoovering up all of this at— newspapers, the bbc is hoovering up all of this at a— newspapers, the bbc is hoovering up all of this at a time which reetty— up all of this at a time which really leaves— up all of this at a time which really leaves us— up all of this at a time which really leaves us all in the heme— really leaves us all in the hehte eh— really leaves us all in the hehte eh e— really leaves us all in the hands on a local level of the ephhhehe— hands on a local level of the ephhhehe eht— hands on a local level of the opinions and the— hands on a local level of the opinions and the output of an ergehheetheh— opinions and the output of an organisation that— opinions and the output of an organisation that frankly is prehehty— organisation that frankly is probably well— organisation that frankly is probably well out of date. there— probably well out of date. there he— probably well out of date. there he e— probably well out of date. there is a flip— probably well out of date. there is a flip side- probably well out of date. there is a flip side to- probably well out of date. there is a flip side to this precious, which is that millions of people in this country live. listen to the bbc and watch it every day and are very happy with product. i mean, with the product. i mean, i think that, you know, the bbc do have its ups, you know, the upside of it. i mean, do upside of it. i mean, they do gwhte— upside of it. i mean, they do cover quitellot_ c. r:ri c i mean, they do cover quite lot worldwide. cover quite a lot worldwide. are— cover quite a lot worldwide. art the— cover quite a lot worldwide. art the ethy— cover quite a lot worldwide. and the only concern- cover quite a lot worldwide. and the only concern that i would say is the fact that they say are for the people,

say they are for the people, right? you can see they kind right? so you can see they kind of are for labour, but yet they're charging the a they're charging the people a licence to actually have the channel. so it kind of goes egehhet— channel. so it kind of goes against what— " so it kind of goes against what they're really kind of against what they're really kind et tehhg— against what they're really kind et tehhg hh— against what they're really kind of doing in regards to that. and i of doing in regards to that. and h teet— of doing in regards to that. and h teet hhte— of doing in regards to that. and i feel like they're— of doing in regards to that. and i feel like they're not really eehehterhhg— i feel like they're not really considering the _ i feel like they're not really considering the people in that sense because— considering the people in that sense because charging them a theme— sense because charging them a theme tee— sense because charging them a theme tee er— sense because charging them a licence fee or having to have a tv licence fee or having to have a tv theehee— licence fee or having to have a tv theehee te— licence fee or having to have a tv licence to watch the channel is tv licence to watch the channel he ewtregeewe— tv licence to watch the channel he ewtregeewe .— tv licence to watch the channel is outrageous. it's— tv licence to watch the channel is outrageous. it's i— tv licence to watch the channel is outrageous. it's i think it ehewtt— is outrageous. it's i think it ehewtt he— is outrageous. it's i think it should be it— is outrageous. it's i think it should be it should be taken ewey— should be it should be taken away completely. jrir away completely. do you think the beeb is politically biased? i think i mean obviously he's given or helped or you know , given or helped or you know, involved in some way of getting that loan to boris johnson and probably that's not a good thing. imean probably that's not a good thing. i mean it's being, you thew.— thing. i mean it's being, you knew hte— thing. i mean it's being, you know, it's come— thing. i mean it's being, you know, it's come out- g i mean it's being, you know, it's come out now, but who eeye— know, it's come out now, but who eeye ht— know, it's come out now, but who eeye ht wewtt— know, it's come out now, but who says it would have— know, it's come out now, but who says it would have ever come out in says it would have ever come out he the— says it would have ever come out he the tee— says it would have ever come out he the et— says it would have ever come out in the case of what's— says it would have ever come out in the case of what's happened? i in the case of what's happened? h meem— in the case of what's happened? h hew— in the case of what's happened? i mean, how long— in the case of what's happened? i mean, how long could we have het—rete- i mean, how long could we have het—rete e- i mean, how long could we have had—role ? for- i mean, how long could we have had—role ? for asi had him in in that role? for as tehg— had him in in that role? for as tehg ee— had him in in that role? for as tehg ee he— had him in in that role? for as long as he could,— had him in in that role? for as long as he could, because you thth-t— long as he could, because you thth-t-ehewt— long as he could, because you didn't-about it.- long as he could, because you didn't-about it. - long as he could, because you didn't about it. didn't know about it. chairman is_bv- is always appointed by the government day , and government of the day, and they're within their rights to choose of centre. choose somebody right of centre.

many and listeners to many viewers and listeners to this show would argue you need that because everyone that balance because everyone working a lefty. working at the beeb is a lefty. well yeah, i think that it would have been. i don't think it's tetr— have been. i don't think it's fair because— i i don't think it's fair because obviously been fair because obviously it's been evpeeet— fair because obviously it's been evpeeet-he— fair because obviously it's been exposed-is doing- exposed that he is doing eemethhhg— exposed that he is doing something that he shouldn't. of ehvhewety— something that he shouldn't. of obviously they're— something that he shouldn't. of obviously they're cracking down on obviously they're cracking down we ett— obviously they're cracking down we ett et— obviously they're cracking down we ett et the— obviously they're cracking down on all of the politicians now in regerte— on all of the politicians now in regerte te— on all of the politicians now in regards to things— on all of the politicians now in regards to things that they have teteh— regards to things that they have teteh eh— regards to things that they have teteh eh er— regards to things that they have taken on or received or helped in taken on or received or helped hh eht— taken on or received or helped hh eht het— taken on or received or helped in and not disclosed. so that's werttwhte— in and not disclosed. so that's worldwide. that's— in and not disclosed. so that's worldwide. that's happening to pretty— worldwide. that's happening to pretty mweh— worldwide. that's happening to pretty mweh ett— worldwide. that's happening to pretty much all the politicians. so pretty much all the politicians. he the— pretty much all the politicians. he the teet— pretty much all the politicians. so the fact that— pretty much all the politicians. so the fact that it's come out thet— so the fact that it's come out thet he — so the fact that it's come out thet he he— so the fact that it's come out that he is obviously for the you thew.— that he is obviously for the you knew ter— that he is obviously for the you knew her tery— that he is obviously for the you know, for tory and— that he is obviously for the you know, for tory and for boris rehheeh. — know, for tory and for boris johnson. well,— know, for tory and for boris johnson. well, i— know, for tory and for boris johnson. well, i think it's a geet— johnson. well, i think it's a geet thhhg— johnson. well, i think it's a good thing because he is at the hhe— good thing because he is at the hhc eht— good thing because he is at the hhc eht we— good thing because he is at the bbc and we need— good thing because he is at the bbc and we need like a balance. i bbc and we need like a balance. h tee-t— bbc and we need like a balance. h tee-t thhh— bbc and we need like a balance. i don't think this— bbc and we need like a balance. i don't think this is— bbc and we need like a balance. i don't think this is a— bbc and we need like a balance. i don't think this is a great- i don't think this is a great look for boris johnson. as i mentioned, he hasn't commented you in my big opinion. you know, this guy, his middle name is scandal and you know, this this is unfortunate episode for is an unfortunate episode for our , for chairman and our ex—pm, for the chairman and for tories . so what our ex—pm, for the chairman and for tories. so what is your for the tories. so what is your thought on this story ? well, of thought on this story? well, of course, boris is a bull who carries his own china. shop around with him,—

carries his own china. shop around with him, isn't- rich” i shop around with him, isn't he? and so around with him, isn't he? and ee-heer— around with him, isn't he? and ee-heer the— around with him, isn't he? and so hear the clashing and of so you hear the clashing and of preheh— so you hear the clashing and of broken crockery— so you hear the clashing and of broken crockery every day when he-e— broken crockery every day when he-e erewrt— broken crockery every day when he-e erewht h— broken crockery every day when he's around. i mean, richard sherp— he's around. i mean, richard sherp wee— he's around. i mean, richard sherp e— he's around. i mean, richard sharp was a decent but hopeless , i sharp was a decent but hopeless . h thhh— sharp was a decent but hopeless . h thhht he— sharp was a decent but hopeless , i think is the— sharp was a decent but hopeless , i think is the best— sharp was a decent but hopeless , i think is the best way to teeerhhe— , i think is the best way to describe him.— , i think is the best way to describe him. and certainly not a describe him. and certainly not e peththeheh— describe him. and certainly not a politician like— describe him. and certainly not a politician like my wedding describe him. and certainly not a politic�*fvhh'ricc ke my wedding describe him. and certainly not a politic�*fvhh'ricc e my wedding describe him. and certainly not a politic�*fvhh'ricc cc wedding describe him. and certainly not a politic�*fvhh'ricc cc ciing describe him. and certainly not a politic�*fvhh'ricc cc c crir; describe him. and certainly not a politic�*fvhh'ricc cc c night. well, we'll wait to see the film footage before we went . but but , you the film footage before we went . but but, you know, he's a detent— . but but, you know, he's a decent me— . but but, you know, he's a decent man. he— but but, you know, he's a decent man. he made a lot of mehey— decent man. he made a lot of mehey hh— decent man. he made a lot of money in goldman sachs where he was money in goldman sachs where he epperehtty— money in goldman sachs where he was apparently rishi sunak boss for was apparently rishi sunak boss ter e— was apparently rishi sunak boss ter e thme— was apparently rishi sunak boss for a time and— was apparently rishi sunak boss for a time and then retired to tevete— for a time and then retired to tevete hhe— for a time and then retired to devote his life— for a time and then retired to devote his life to— for a time and then retired to devote his life to public eervhee— devote his life to public service and— devote his life to public service and i- devote his life to public service and i don't believe for a service and i don't believe for e memet— service and i don't believe for a moment that— service and i don't believe for a moment that he— service and i don't believe for a moment that he was politically hheeet— a moment that he was politically hheeet hh— a moment that he was politically hheeet he the— a moment that he was politically biased in the sense— a moment that he was politically biased in the sense that the tehewr— biased in the sense that the tehewr herty— biased in the sense that the labour party are— biased in the sense that the labour party are saying. but of hte— labour party are saying. but of course it's not— labour party are saying. but of course it's not a— labour party are saying. but of course it's not a good look and he ehewtt— course it's not a good look and he should have— course it's not a good look and he should have known better. i thhh— he should have known better. i thhht thet— he should have known better. i think that this— he should have known better. i think that this was not going to eht— think that this was not going to eht very— think that this was not going to eht very wett— think that this was not going to end very well for— think that this was not going to end very well for him and should heve— end very well for him and should heve mete— end very well for him and should have made the— end very well for him and should have made the decision to resign thme— have made the decision to resign thme ege— have made the decision to resign thme ege .— have made the decision to resign some time ago. but i mean, yew-e— some time ago. but i mean, you're absolutely right that the— you're absolutely right that thhe he— you're absolutely right that this is really— you're absolutely right that this is really a— you're absolutely right that this is really a sideshow eemperet— this is really a sideshow compared with the real issue ehewt— compared with the real issue about running— compared with the real issue about running the bbc. the ehehrmeh— about running the bbc. the ehehrmeh he— about running the bbc. the chairman is the— about running the bbc. the chairman is the chairman of the peere— chairman is the chairman of the heert et— chairman is the chairman of the board of governors,— chairman is the chairman of the board of governors, who's a kind of board of governors, who's a kind et heh— board of governors, who's a kind of non executive— board of governors, who's a kind of non executive overseeing body

, of non executive overseeing body . vvhereee whet— of non executive overseeing body , whereas what we— of non executive overseeing body , whereas what we know about the hht— , whereas what we know about the hhc he— , whereas what we know about the hhc he thet— , whereas what we know about the hhc he thet hte— , whereas what we know about the bbc is that it's the— bbc is that it's the broadcasting arm of the bbc is that it's the— broadcasting arm of the guardian mwepepet— broadcasting arm of the guardian hewepeper. hen-t— broadcasting arm of the guardian newspaper, isn't it— broadcasting arm of the guardian newspaper, isn't it ? newspaper, isn't it? overwhelmingly, the editorial the— overwhelmingly, the editorial the h— overwhelmingly, the editorial the he the— overwhelmingly, the editorial line in the bbc— overwhelmingly, the editorial line in the bbc is centre left eht— line in the bbc is centre left eht the— line in the bbc is centre left and the mindset— line in the bbc is centre left and the mindset is centre left, eht— and the mindset is centre left, eht thet-e— and the mindset is centre left, and that's the _ and the mindset is centre left, and that's the real point. but the hht— and that's the real point. but the bbc would— and that's the real point. but the bbc would push back and they said that they'd say they get as many viewers and listeners writing saying, you're writing to them saying, you're supporting well supporting the tories. well a jury's out on that. but that's not jury's out on that. but that's net the— jury's out on that. but that's pet the peht— jury's out on that. but that's not the point. i— jury's out on that. but that's not the point. i mean,- not the point. i mean, i wewtth-t— not the point. i mean, i wouldn't bother to write to the hht— wouldn't bother to write to the hhc te — wouldn't bother to write to the bbc to complain— wouldn't bother to write to the bbc to complain because i know thet— bbc to complain because i know thet the— bbc to complain because i know that the system— bbc to complain because i know that the system not that the system would not pretwee— that the system would not pretwee ehy— that the system would not produce any worthwhile result. so produce any worthwhile result. selteh-t— produce any worthwhile result. soidon't think— produce any worthwhile result. so don't think that indicates so i don't think that indicates ehythhhg— so i don't think that indicates ehythhhg-wett- so i don't think that indicates anything-well, let. so i don't think that indicatesi anything-well, let me anything at all. well, let me tett— anything at all. well, let me tell you that gb news is free of charge and it always will be. coming up next in the big story are changes to gambling rules. an example of nanny state in an example of the nanny state in overdrive ? are gamblers being overdrive? are gamblers being treated children ? that's .

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you're listening to gb news radio. fergus you're listening to gb news radio . fergus very kind words radio. fergus very kind words ehewt— radio. fergus very kind words ehewt my— radio. fergus very kind words ehewt my hhg— ?chr: fergus very kind words about my big opinion. 3chr: fergus very kind words about my big opinion. c about my big opinion. it's about the hht— about my big opinion. it's about the hhc .— about my big opinion. it's about the bbc . they've lost their the bbc. they've lost their chairman. but in my view , they chairman. but in my view, they lost the plot years ago as neil hamilton, my pundit, said, frankly, that story , the story frankly, that story, the story of the chairman going is a sideshow. so what about the licence fee? what about unbalanced political coverage? what about brexit? well, let's get this from ferguson. brilliant opening monologue, mark, about the beeb couldn't agree more . i have this from agree more. i have this from chris mark. the bbc are for the people . just look at the people. just look at the lockdown years. they toed the government line of psycho warfare. i'm 57. i've never paid and i never will. jeff says. mark. the beeb should be scrapped. pay as you go, not all the channels we do not care how they get about it. look thank you for that. i'll get to more of your emails shortly, perhaps briefly from this from linda . hi briefly from this from linda. hi mark. the bbc are like the civil service. it's a load of lefties

who hate brexit. linda, thank you for that. keep those emails coming, especially if you'd like to talk up the beeb and celebrate what it does both on radio online and on it's radio online and on tv. it's time now for the big story and young gamblers could face a steak limit of £2 on online slot machines, according to new government proposals . the new government proposals. the new white paper on gambling marks the biggest shake up of regulation in the sector for nearly 20 years. but it begs the question are changes to gambling rules an example of the nanny state in overdrive? and do we run the risk of demonising gamblers and treating them like children? to discuss this is the lifestyle economics whizz at the institute for economic affairs, christopher snowden. hi chris. welcome to the show. hi mark. thank you for giving up a chunk of your your friday night and your hashtag mojito time . what your hashtag mojito time. what do you think of this white paper to essentially protect people from borrowing too much to gamble, especially when they're

young ? i think there are two young? i think there are two very worrying things about it. the first is something you've etreety— the first is something you've already alluded— the first is something you've already alluded to, which is the heee— already alluded to, which is the htee thet— already alluded to, which is the idea that we're— already alluded to, which is the idea that we're going to give epeehet— idea that we're going to give special rules— idea that we're going to give special rules or— idea that we're going to give special rules or provide special rwtee— special rules or provide special rwtee ter— special rules or provide special rules for people— special rules or provide special rules for people aged between 18 and rules for people aged between 18 mt 2a.— rules for people aged between 18 and 24, because— rules for people aged between 18 and 24, because essentially we eeh-t— and 24, because essentially we teh-t thhh— and 24, because essentially we don't think they're trusted. they-re — don't think they're trusted. they-re twet— don't think they're trusted. they're just oppress adults. they-re— they're just oppress adults. they're junior— they're just oppress adults. they're junior adults . they're they're junior adults. they're het— they're junior adults. they're het-ehewgh— they're junior adults. they're not-enough to- they're junior adults. they're not enough to make their not old enough to make up their ewe-etthewgh— not old enough to make up their own although they're old own mind, although they're old ehewgh— own mind, although they're old enough everything else. enough to do everything else. they-re— enough to do everything else. they're—te- enough to do everything else. they're—to-al enough to do everything else.- they-re—te-e they're old enough to have a sex ehehge— they're old enough to have a sex ehehge er— they're old enough to have a sex ehehge er ett— they're old enough to have a sex change or old enough to vote. they-re— change or old enough to vote. they-re ett— change or old enough to vote. they're old enough join the they're old enough to join the em.— they're old enough to join the ermy-eh hwt- they're old enough to join the army. on. but they're not army. and so on. but they're not old army. and so on. but they're not ehe—thew— army. and so on. but they're not ehe—thew hew- army. and so on. but they're not old know how much army. and so on. but they're not. old-know how much they old enough to know how much they went— old enough to know how much they went te— old enough to know how much they went te-hhte— old enough to know how much they went te-hhte eh— old enough to know how much they want to into an online slot want to put into an online slot meehhe— want to put into an online slot meehhhe. the— want to put into an online slot machine. the other thing the machine. the other thing is the ettertehhthty— machine. the other thing is the affordability checks, which is a wett— affordability checks, which is a wet meehhhg— affordability checks, which is a well meaning policy in some reepeete— respects because you do get peepte— respects because you do get people gambling online, maybe trwhh— people gambling online, maybei trwhh—very drunk, and they can lose in very rerety— drunk, and they can lose in very rerety .— drunk, and they can lose in very rerety . hwt— drunk, and they can lose in very rerety . hwt they— drunk, and they can lose in very rarely , but they can lose rarely, but they can lose thousands— rarely, but they can lose thousands of— rarely, but they can lose thousands of pounds. 'r: thousands of pounds. and of course, you read— thousands of pounds. and of course, you read about these stories in the tabloid press all the time. and the idea is that, you— the time. and the idea is that, yew thew.— the time. and the idea is that, you know, somebody- c and the idea is that, you know, somebody intervenes if you know, somebody intervenes if yew etert— you know, somebody intervenes if yew etert teehhg— you know, somebody intervenes if you start losing that amount of mey — you start losing that amount of mey hew— you start losing that amount of money. now online gambling emeephe— money. now online gambling companies intervened companies already intervened wheh—ehewhhgl when people start showing hezertewe— when people start showing hazardous patterns play, the hazardous patterns of play, the prehtem — hazardous patterns of play, the prehtem whth—

hazardous patterns of play, the problem with the— hazardous patterns of play, the problem with the affordability cheet— problem with the affordability eheet. h— problem with the affordability check, i think,— problem with the affordability check, i think, is— problem with the affordability check, i think, is that the threehett— check, i think, is that the threshold at— check, i think, is that the threshold at which these trhggere— threshold at which these triggers begin is very low. so the heme— triggers begin is very low. so the initial trigger— triggers begin is very low. so the initial trigger will be at £500 a year spend on gambling, five lose £500 a year on gambling , five lose £500 a year on gambling, and five lose £500 a year on gambling , and there will be gambling, and there will be a what they call a frictionless check , which will look at check, which will look at whether you've got a county court judgement or whether your business has been bankrupt, whether been you've been whether you've been you've been bankrupt and that's bankrupt in the past. and that's actually a bankrupt in the past. and that's eetwetty e tet— bankrupt in the past. and that's actually a lot of— bankrupt in the past. and that's actually a lot of people,- i and that's actually a lot of people, £500 a yeer— actually a lot of people, £500 a yeer he— actually a lot of people, £500 a yeer he het— actually a lot of people, £500 a yeer he het very— actually a lot of people, £500 a year is not very much to spend on year is not very much to spend eh-tehewre— year is not very much to spend on-leisure activity. - year is not very much to spend on leisure activity. and on any leisure activity. and a lot on any leisure activity. and a het-peepte— on any leisure activity. and a lot-people have- on any leisure activity. and a lot people have cdjs lot of people have had cdjs etey.— lot of people have had cdjs okay-my— lot of people have had cdjs okay, my question is what okay, so my question is what then— okay, so my question is what then-there-e- okay, so my question is what then there's another then happens? there's another etep—teter- then happens? there's another etep—teter eh- then happens? there's another step,_later on, if. step, by the way, later on, if you— step, by the way, later on, if yew teee— step, by the way, later on, if you lose £2,000— step, by the way, later on, if you lose £2,000 in the course of three— you lose £2,000 in the course of three mehthe— you lose £2,000 in the course of three months, which— you lose £2,000 in the course of three months, which wouldn't be whwewet— three months, which wouldn't be whwewet ter— three months, which wouldn't be unusual for serious— three months, which wouldn't be unusual for serious gamblers, not unusual for serious gamblers, het-gemhtere- unusual for serious gamblers, not gamblers, just not problem gamblers, just peepte— not problem gamblers, just peepte-hhte— not problem gamblers, just people like gambling, people people who like gambling, people who people who like gambling, people whe—reeeg- people who like gambling, people whe—reehhg eht- people who like gambling, people who—racing and so. who are into horse racing and so on, who are into horse racing and so eh-wewtt— who are into horse racing and so eh-wewtt eee— who are into horse racing and so eh-wewtt e— who are into horse racing and so on, would see a £2,000 win on, they would see a £2,000 win the— on, they would see a £2,000 win over the course— on, they would see a £2,000 win over the course of— on, they would see a £2,000 win over the course of three months or over the course of three months er e heee— over the course of three months or a 2000 £2,000— over the course of three months or a 2000 £2,000 loss over three menthe— or a 2000 £2,000 loss over three mehthe. hte— or a 2000 £2,000 loss over three months. it's not— or a 2000 £2,000 loss over three months. it's not been— or a 2000 £2,000 loss over three months. it's not been a big deal reetty. — months. it's not been a big deal reetty. hhght. — months. it's not been a big deal really. right. but— months. it's not been a big deal really. 33 but that months. it's not been a big deal really. 3 3 but that then really. right. but that then trhggere— really. right. but that then trhggere eh— really. right. but that then triggers an even— really. 3 3 but that then triggers an even more intensive ettertehhthty—

triggers an even more intensive affordability check, which petehthetty— affordability check, which potentially involves you having to potentially involves you having te ehew— potentially involves you having te ehew yew— potentially involves you having to show your your— potentially involves you having to show your your bank statements— to show your your bank statements and what have you to ehthhe— statements and what have you to ehthhe gemhthhg— statements and what have you to online gambling companies. but them— online gambling companies. but them hte— online gambling companies. but even then, it's not— online gambling companies. but even then, it's not clear . and even then, it's not clear. and the— even then, it's not clear. and the whhte— even then, it's not clear. and the white paper— even then, it's not clear. and the white paper what actually heppehe. — the white paper what actually heppehe. are— the white paper what actually happens. ”til the white paper what actually happens. ' gtir g happens. are these people going to banned from gambling on on to be banned from gambling on on every online website because they'll all be joined together in some way? and if not, kind of hte— in some way? and if not, kind of the-the— in some way? and if not, kind of the-the pehht— in some way? and if not, kind of like-the point of- in some way? and if not, kind of like-the point of this?- like what's the point of this? hhght. — like what's the point of this? hhght. wew— like what's the point of this? right. you they're saying right. you know, they're saying theee— right. you know, they're saying theee-gehhg— right. you know, they're saying theee-gehhglhe- these are not going to be hhtrwehve— these are not going to be intrusive - if- these are not going to be intrusive if they're these are not going to be- intrusive _if they're not intrusive checks if they're not hhtrwehve— intrusive checks if they're not intrusive, they're _ intrusive checks if they're not intrusive, they're not going to reetty— intrusive, they're not going to really _whether- intrusive, they're not going to really whether you can really find out whether you can ettert — really find out whether you can ettert te — really find out whether you can afford to gamble.— really find out whether you can afford to gamble. if you've got the—definition,- the money. by definition, you can—some sense.l the money. by definition, you. can—some sense. and the money. by definition, you- can_some sense. and if can gamble in some sense. and if they-re— can gamble in some sense. and if they're-te— can gamble in some sense. and if they-re-te thet- can gamble in some sense. and if they're-to kick you- they're not going to kick you on.— they're not going to kick you ett. hew— they're not going to kick you ett. hew he— they're not going to kick you off, how is this— they're not going to kick you off, how is this to reduce off, how is this going to reduce prehtem — off, how is this going to reducei prehtem —very problem gambling? so it's very vegwe— problem gambling? so it's very vegwe-ewepeet— problem gambling? so it's very vague-suspect-in- problem gambling? so it's very vague suspect in the vague and i suspect that in the eehewttetheh— vague and i suspect that in the consultation-as- vague and i suspect that in the consultation - as a - vague and i suspect that in the consultation as a lot of consultation phase, as a lot of the— consultation phase, as a lot of thhe whth— consultation phase, as a lot of this will kind— consultation phase, as a lot of this will kind crumble . h/ris this will kind of crumble. yes, you— this will kind of crumble. yes, yew te— this will kind of crumble. yes, yew te wehett— this will kind of crumble. yes, you do wonder, don't- this will kind of crumble. yes, you do wonder, don't you,- you do wonder, don't you, christopher? let's bring my punst christopher? let's bring my pundits i can. we've got pundits in, if i can. we've got the journalist duncan larcombe, precious muir, who's a broadcaster and political commentator , and ukip leader commentator, and ukip leader neil hamilton . ian duncan, neil hamilton. ian duncan, what's your view on this attempt to protect people from themselves ? well, i think i've

themselves? well, i think i've got themselves? well, i think i've get h— themselves? well, i think i've get h meeh— themselves? well, i think i've get r h— themselves? well, i think i've got i mean, i speak- 7 well, i think i've got i mean, i speak from pereehet— got i mean, i speak from personal experience with my etter— personal experience with my older brother— personal experience with my older brother was a very successful— older brother was a very successful guy in the city. he'd tettet— successful guy in the city. he'd never talked about gambling. he wewtth-t— never talked about gambling. he wouldn't-bets— never talked about gambling. he wouldn't-bets or- never talked about gambling. he wouldn't bets or anything. wouldn't place bets or anything. amt— wouldn't place bets or anything. and then— wouldn't place bets or anything. and then we— wouldn't place bets or anything. and then we found— wouldn't place bets or anything. and then we found out actually amhe— and then we found out actually amhe eve— and then we found out actually amhe e— and then we found out actually arnie over a period of two yee— arnie over a period of two ye he— arnie over a period of two years, he had— arnie over a period of two years, he had developed a gemhthhg— years, he had developed a gambling-and. years, he had developed a- gambling-and gambled gambling addiction and gambled more-£750,000.— gambling addiction and gambled more £750,000. and frankly more than £750,000. and frankly . he— more than £750,000. and frankly . he teetreyet— more than £750,000. and frankly , he destroyed his— more than £750,000. and frankly , he destroyed his marriage and teetreyet— , he destroyed his marriage and teetreyet eh— , he destroyed his marriage and destroyed an awful lot more peeheee— destroyed an awful lot more heehtee .— destroyed an awful lot more heehtee . ht— destroyed an awful lot more besides , it is— destroyed an awful lot more besides , it is a— destroyed an awful lot more besides , it is a secret besides, it is a secret addiction— besides, it is a secret addiction when you do not see it ereephhg— addiction when you do not see it ereephhg wp— addiction when you do not see it ereephhg wp ee— addiction when you do not see it ereephhg wp ee yew— addiction when you do not see it creeping up as you might perhaps whth— creeping up as you might perhaps whth eemeehe— creeping up as you might perhaps with someone that— creeping up as you might perhaps with someone that drinks alcohol too with someone that drinks alcohol tee mweh— with someone that drinks alcohol tee mweh er— with someone that drinks alcohol too much or takes— with someone that drinks alcohol too much or takes drugs. it is a it too much or takes drugs. it is a ht he— too much or takes drugs. it is a ht he e— too much or takes drugs. it is a ht he e reet— too much or takes drugs. it is a it is a real, real— too much or takes drugs. it is a it is a real, real horrible thhhg— it is a real, real horrible thhhg when— it is a real, real horrible thing when it's in your family. hwt— thing when it's in your family. hwt hwt— thing when it's in your family. but but having— thing when it's in your family. but but having said that, it's a et— but but having said that, it's a et theee— but but having said that, it's a one of those things. now, this is one of those things. now, this he thp— one of those things. now, this he thp eervhee— one of those things. now, this is lip service. surely this is het— is lip service. surely this is twet thp— is lip service. surely this is just lip service.— is lip service. surely this is just lip service. you cannot ban gemhthhg. — just lip service. you cannot ban gambling. gambling is a pastime for gambling. gambling is a pastime ter peepte— gambling. gambling is a pastime ter peepte thet— gambling. gambling is a pastime for people that that a lot of peepte— for people that that a lot of peepte ehtey— for people that that a lot of people enjoy perfectly legitimately. and i think if the ehwee— legitimately. and i think if the ehwee he— legitimately. and i think if the abuse is there,— legitimately. and i think if the abuse is there, it's going to be there.— abuse is there, it's going to be there. se— abuse is there, it's going to be there. he h— abuse is there, it's going to be there. so i worry— abuse is there, it's going to be there. so i worry really. i mean . ht— there. so i worry really. i mean . ht yew— there. so i worry really. i mean . ht yew ht— there. so i worry really. i mean . ht yew ht ywe— there. so i worry really. i mean , if you if you're 18— there. so i worry really. i mean , if you if you're 18 years old eht— , if you if you're 18 years old eht yew— , if you if you're 18 years old eht yew eemy— , if you if you're 18 years old and you carry around a mobile

phene— and you carry around a mobile phehe. yewe— and you carry around a mobile phone, you're carrying around et— phone, you're carrying around et the— phone, you're carrying around one of the world's biggest hh— one of the world's biggest casinos in your— one of the world's biggest casinos in your pocket, on casinos in your pocket, how on eerth— casinos in your pocket, how on eerth ee— casinos in your pocket, how on eerth yew— casinos in your pocket, how on earth are you going to rain that in? earth are you going to rain that he hte— earth are you going to rain that he ht-e twet— earth are you going to rain that in? it's just it's— earth are you going to rain that in? it's just it's not— earth are you going to rain that in? it's just it's not enough. amt— in? it's just it's not enough. amt-.— in? it's just it's not enough. aht-. hte— in? it's just it's not enough. aht-. ht-e twet- in? it's just it's not enough. and , it's just the and frankly, it's just the awareness _ and frankly, it's just the awareness that needs to be reheet. — awareness that needs to be raised. well,— awareness that needs to be raised. well, duncan, are there any— raised. well, duncan, are there my gevemmeht— raised. well, duncan, are there any government protections? strhet— any government protections? strheter— any government protections? strict or rules— any government protections? strict or rules that— any government protections? strict or rules that could- any government protections? strict or rules that could have protected your brother from losing a quarter of £1 million? it was £750,000. sorry, three gwertere— it was £750,000. sorry, three gwertere et— it was £750,000. sorry, three gwertere et e— it was £750,000. sorry, three quarters of a million? / quarters of a million? yeah. three— quarters of a million? yeah. three quarters— quarters of a million? yeah. three quarters of— quarters of a million? yeah. three quarters of a- quarters of a million? / three quarters of a million. no trentty— three quarters of a million. no pantry, h— three quarters of a million. no frankly, i don't— three quarters of a million. no frankly, i don't think so, heewee— frankly, i don't think so, because the _ frankly, i don't think so, because the only time that we tewht— because the only time that we tewht ewt— because the only time that we tewht ewt ht— because the only time that we found out it was— because the only time that we found out it was a— because the only time that we found out it was a problem was when— found out it was a problem was when he— found out it was a problem was when he het— found out it was a problem was when he had hit— found out it was a problem was when he had hit absolute rock hettem— when he had hit absolute rock hettem. amt— when he had hit absolute rock bottom. and frankly, it was ehther— bottom. and frankly, it was either looking _ bottom. and frankly, it was either looking at going to when— either looking at going to when er— either looking at going to prison or committing suicide. amt— prison or committing suicide. amt-e— prison or committing suicide. and a horrendous time. and it was a horrendous time. amt— and it was a horrendous time. and something— and it was a horrendous time. and something very and something that i'm very prewt— and something that i'm very prewt et— and something that i'm very prewt et htm— and something that i'm very proud of him to— and something that i'm very proud of him to say that he now eempehghe— proud of him to say that he now eempehghe eht— proud of him to say that he now campaigns and is— proud of him to say that he now campaigns and is a— proud of him to say that he now campaigns and is a reformed gemhtet— campaigns and is a reformed gemhter. hwt— campaigns and is a reformed gambler. but no,— campaigns and is a reformed gambler. but no, i something heete— gambler. but no, i something heete te— gambler. but no, i something heete te he— gambler. but no, i something needs to be done. but what that eemethhhg— needs to be done. but what that eemethhhg he— needs to be done. but what that something is, i'm— needs to be done. but what that something is, i'm not sure that ehther— something is, i'm not sure that ehther ette— something is, i'm not sure that either side of— something is, i'm not sure that either side of the— something is, i'm not sure that either side of the gambling eehete— either side of the gambling tehete eh— either side of the gambling debate can even agree. okay wett— debate can even agree. okay weht whet— debate can even agree. okay neil, what do— debate can even agree. okay neil, what do you think about the— neil, what do you think about thhe e — neil, what do you think about thhe e h— neil, what do you think about this ? i know— neil, what do you think about this ? i know you're- neil, what do you think about this ? ”ti: c neil, what do you think about this? i know you're a bit of a libertarian. you don't like a

big state snooping on our lives. no, i think this is utterly pointless and unnecessary intrusion . you know, plenty of intrusion. you know, plenty of thhhge— intrusion. you know, plenty of thhhge thet— ch“ you know, plenty of things that government ti?“ you know, plenty of things that government can do, whheh— things that government can do, whheh wewtt— things that government can do, which would be— things that government can do, which would be useful to us. and we teerh— which would be useful to us. and we here trem — which would be useful to us. and we learn from the— which would be useful to us. and we learn from the papers today thet— we learn from the papers today thet there— we learn from the papers today that there are _ we learn from the papers today that there are 4000 pieces of eu teghetetheh— that there are 4000 pieces of eu legislation that— that there are 4000 pieces of eu legislation that the— legislation that the government's identified as weeteee— government's identified as useless and— government's identified as useless and want to get rid of, hwt— useless and want to get rid of, hwt they— useless and want to get rid of, but they haven't— useless and want to get rid of, but they haven't got time to do the teh— but they haven't got time to do the pet hetere— but they haven't got time to do the job before the— but they haven't got time to do the job before the next eteetheh. — the job before the next| election.-only the job before the next- election. _only get rid election. they can only get rid of election. they can only get rid et-them.— election. they can only get rid et-them. se— election. they can only get rid of-them. so why- election. they can only get rid of them. so why don't of 800 of them. so why don't they— of 800 of them. so why don't they-tryhhg— of 800 of them. so why don't they-tryhhg te— of 800 of them. so why don't they trying to police the they stop trying to police the whpteeeehte— they stop trying to police the unplaceable as— they stop trying to police the unplaceable as in these gambling prepeeete— unplaceable as in these gambling prepeeete eht— unplaceable as in these gambling prepeeete eht get— unplaceable as in these gambling proposals and get on with doing eemethhhg— proposals and get on with doing something useful? i mean gemhthhg—whei something useful? i mean. gambling.-who has something useful? i mean- gambling.-who has got gambling. everybody who has got half gambling. everybody who has got hett e— gambling. everybody who has got hett e hehh— gambling. everybody who has got half a brain knows— gambling. everybody who has got half a brain knows gambling half a brain knows that gambling is half a brain knows that gambling he-geme— half a brain knows that gambling he-geme eht— half a brain knows that gambling is-game and you're- is a mug's game and you're etmeet— is a mug's game and you're almost bound— is a mug's game and you're almost bound to— is a mug's game and you're almost bound to lose. you know, the-hee— almost bound to lose. you know, the-hee etweye— almost bound to lose. you know, the-has always got- almost bound to lose. you know, the has always got the the house has always got the ette— the house has always got the ettelhte— the house has always got the odds-its favour— the house has always got the odds-its favour .- the house has always got the odds-its favour. i- the house has always got the odds its favour. i like going odds in its favour. i like going to odds in its favour. i like going te the— odds in its favour. i like going te the e— odds in its favour. i like going to the races and— odds in its favour. i like going to the races and having a ttwtter. — to the races and having a ttwtter. h— to the races and having a flutter. i expect to lose a eertehh— flutter. i expect to lose a certain amount- flutter. i expect to lose a certain amount of money on the day— certain amount of money on the tey .— certain amount of money on the tey . hte— certain amount of money on the they. ht-e twh— certain amount of money on the they. rt-e twhlyew— certain amount of money on the day. it's fun you win, but day. it's fun if you win, but over a lifetime— day. it's fun if you win, but over a lifetime you're probably going— over a lifetime you're probably gehhg te— over a lifetime you're probably gehhg te teee— over a lifetime you're probably going to lose your shirt if or whet— going to lose your shirt if or whet phee— going to lose your shirt if or whet prhee yew— going to lose your shirt if or what price you put on your ehhrt— what price you put on your ehhrt. when— what price you put on your shirt. when i— what price you put on your shirt. when i was a kid, my very thet— shirt. when i was a kid, my very thret teh— shirt. when i was a kid, my very

thret teh wee— shirt. when i was a kid, my very first job was working in an amusement arcade with fruit meehhhee— amusement arcade with fruit meehhhee eht— amusement arcade with fruit machines and i— amusement arcade with fruit machines and i actually made a lot machines and i actually made a tet et— machines and i actually made a tet et mehey— machines and i actually made a lot of money out— machines and i actually made a lot of money out of— machines and i actually made a lot of money out of gambling heewee— lot of money out of gambling heewee h— lot of money out of gambling heewee h get— lot of money out of gambling because i got to— lot of money out of gambling because i got to know all the combinations— because i got to know all the combinations of— because i got to know all the combinations of the fruit meehhee— combinations of the fruit machines. so— combinations of the fruit machines. so i- combinations of the fruit machines. so i knew when they wewtt— machines. so i knew when they wewtt wh— machines. so i knew when they wewtt whh hy— machines. so i knew when they would win by observation. an and machines. so i knew when they wo i ld win by observation. an and machines. so i knew when they on watched' observation. an and machines. so i knew when they on watched how arvation. an and machines. so i knew when they on watched how much n. an and machines. so i knew when they on watched how much money nd so i watched how much money peepte— so i watched how much money peepte wee— so i watched how much money people were putting in and i eweepet— people were putting in and i eweepet te— people were putting in and i swooped to scoop the pool at the rhght— swooped to scoop the pool at the rhght-hhete— swooped to scoop the pool at the right _that's the - swooped to scoop the pool at the right that's the only right moment. that's the only way— right moment. that's the only waylgo- _ right moment. that's the only way go. gambling my view. way to go. gambling in my view. whet—eemy- what a canny what a canny operator. i mean, you're all clearly you're on gb operator. i mean, you're all clearl'news, you're on gb operator. i mean, you're all clearl'news, but you're on gb operator. i mean, you're all clearl'news, but preciouson gb operator. i mean, you're all clearl'news, but precious .n gb operator. i mean, you're all clearl'news, but precious . what do news news, but precious. what do you think about this? you're a bit younger than some of my other closer other pundits. you're closer to the group protected, but the age group protected, but because the argument is that a young person can destroy their life with these online games , life with these online games, and therefore, until they've reached about 24, there should be some kind of checks and balances. what do you think? i think i agree. i honestly do, heewee— think i agree. i honestly do, heewee h— think i agree. i honestly do, because i feel— think i agree. i honestly do, because i feel like if there is no because i feel like if there is he eet— because i feel like if there is he eet rwtee— because i feel like if there is no set rules and— because i feel like if there is no set rules and regulations, vou— no set rules and regulations, yew eh— no set rules and regulations, yew eht— no set rules and regulations, yew eht wp— no set rules and regulations, you can end up losing 750,000. wew— you can end up losing 750,000. hew thew.— you can end up losing 750,000. hew thew. se— you can end up losing 750,000. you know, so there— you can end up losing 750,000. you know, so there has to be eemethhhg— you know, so there has to be eemethhhg hh— you know, so there has to be something in place where i'm not eeyhhg— something in place where i'm not eeyhhg they— something in place where i'm not eeyhhg they heve— something in place where i'm not saying they have to— something in place where i'm not saying they have to completely eehtret— saying they have to completely eehtret the— saying they have to completely control the you— saying they have to completely control the you know , the lives

control the you know, the lives of control the you know, the lives et theee— control the you know, the lives of these people,— control the you know, the lives of these people, but it does there— of these people, but it does there teee— of these people, but it does there does have— of these people, but it does there does have to be some sort of there does have to be some sort et hewhterhee— there does have to be some sort of boundaries because going to the eehe— of boundaries because going to the casino and— of boundaries because going to the casino and having a little gemhte— the casino and having a little gemhte eh— the casino and having a little gemhte eh eh— the casino and having a little gamble on an occasion or with trhehte— gamble on an occasion or with trhehte he— gamble on an occasion or with friends is totally— gamble on an occasion or with friends is totally different to ehtthg— friends is totally different to ehtthhg. wew— friends is totally different to sitting. you know, at 2 am. in the— sitting. you know, at 2 am. in the tert— sitting. you know, at 2 am. in the tert eh— sitting. you know, at 2 am. in the dark on your— sitting. you know, at 2 am. in the dark on your phone, gemhthhg. — the dark on your phone, gambling. those are two very thttereht— gambling. those are two very different things— gambling. those are two very different things .— gambling. those are two very different things . and so there different things. and so there hee— different things. and so there hee te— different things. and so there hee te he— different things. and so there has to be some— different things. and so there has to be some form of control heewee— has to be some form of control heeewee peepte— has to be some form of control because people will literally teee— because people will literally teee the— because people will literally lose the shirts— because people will literally lose the shirts off their back eht— lose the shirts off their back eht thet— lose the shirts off their back and their homes— lose the shirts off their back and their homes and their temhthee— and their homes and their families if— and their homes and their families if this— and their homes and their families if this doesn't get set in families if this doesn't get set hh pteee. — families if this doesn't get set hh pteee. amt— families if this doesn't get set hh pteee. aht h— families if this doesn't get set in place. and i and i agree they ehewt.— in place. and i and i agree they ehewtt. chrhe— in place. and i and i agree they should. chris snowden, finally, if should. chris snowden, finally, ht thhe— should. chris snowden, finally, if this these _ should. chris snowden, finally, if this these new— should. chris snowden, finally, if this these new regulations, if this these new regulations, ht they— if this these new regulations, ht they hetp — if this these new regulations, if they help one— if this these new regulations, if they help one family, surely they-re— if they help one family, surely they-re werth — if they help one family, surely they're worth it. _ if they help one family, surely theil're worth it. wig... if they help one family, surely they're worth it. h/rich" well, they're worth it. yeah. well, hew— they're worth it. yeah. well, hew mweh— they're worth it. yeah. well, hew mweh he— they're worth it. yeah. well, how much is it— they're worth it. / well, how much is it going to cost? were— how much is it going to cost? we're reetty— how much is it going to cost? we're really saying that. i mean, we say that about anything ehee— mean, we say that about anything etee. we. — mean, we say that about anything etee. we. ht— mean, we say that about anything etee. we. ht ht— mean, we say that about anything else. no. if it costs— mean, we say that about anything else. no. if it costs £100 hhttheh— else. no. if it costs £100 billion, clearly- else. no. if it costs £100 billion, clearly it wouldn't be werth— billion, clearly it wouldn't be werth ht— billion, clearly it wouldn't be worth it because— billion, clearly it wouldn't be worth it because you could use the mehey— worth it because you could use the mehey hh— worth it because you could use the money in in— worth it because you could use the money in in better ways. and it's the money in in better ways. and ht-e het— the money in in better ways. and ht-e net the— the money in in better ways. and ht-e net the wey— the money in in better ways. and it's not the way to— the money in in better ways. and it's not the way to look at it. amt— it's not the way to look at it. and eetwetty— it's not the way to look at it. and actually, unfortunately, one of and actually, unfortunately, one et-ehe— and actually, unfortunately, one et-ehe et— and actually, unfortunately, one et-ehe et the— and actually, unfortunately, one of one of the worrying of the one of the worrying thhhge— of the one of the worrying things about— of the one of the worrying things about campaign things about this campaign over the—ter— things about this campaign over the—her ett- things about this campaign over the _for all thesei

the last few years for all these gemhthhg— the last few years for all these new gambling restrictions, it's heeh— new gambling restrictions, it's been ehthrety— new gambling restrictions, it's been entirely based anecdotal been entirely based on anecdotal evhtehee— been entirely based on anecdotal evidence—stories. evidence and very sad stories ehewt— evidence and very sad stories ehewt peepte— evidence and very sad stories about people who killed themselves— about people who killed. themselves-cases about people who killed- themselves-cases really about people who killed- the make es-cases really about people who killed- themake bad _cases really about people who killed themake bad law cases really about people who killed themake bad law and,ases really about people who killed themake bad law and, you really about people who killed themake bad law and, you know, do make bad law and, you know, ehewt— do make bad law and, you know, ehrewt wevhhg— do make bad law and, you know, shroud waving is— do make bad law and, you know, shroud waving is a— do make bad law and, you know, shroud waving is a basis for pwhthe— shroud waving is a basis for pwhthe pethey— shroud waving is a basis for public policy is— shroud waving is a basis for public policy is not the way to go. public policy is not the way to go wew— public policy is not the way to ge. vew heee— public policy is not the way to go. you need to— public policy is not the way to go. you need to look rationally at go. you need to look rationally et theee— go. you need to look rationally at these things. _ go. you need to look rationally at these things. the whole pwrpeee— at these things. the whole pwrpeee et— at these things. the whole purpose of people being pushed on purpose of people being pushed we the— purpose of people being pushed we the hv— purpose of people being pushed we the tv eht— purpose of people being pushed on the tv and talking about how they-re— on the tv and talking about how they-re ehtt— on the tv and talking about how they're child kill— on the tv and talking about how they're child kill themselves eht— they're child kill themselves eht they— they're child kill themselves and they were— they're child kill themselves and they were a— they're child kill themselves and they were a problem gambler is and they were a problem gambler he-yew— and they were a problem gambler he-yew ee— and they were a problem gambler is-you so emotional- and they were a problem gambler is you so emotional that is to get you so emotional that you— is to get you so emotional that yew—ehewt- is to get you so emotional that yew—ehewt the- you don't think about the petty.— you don't think about the petty-eeht- you don't think about the. policy.-don't-about you don't think about the. policostldon't-about you don't think about the policost and on't about you don't think about the policost and cost about you don't think about the policost and cost and about you don't think about the policost and cost and benefits the cost and cost and benefits eht— the cost and cost and benefits eht trete— the cost and cost and benefits and trade offs— the cost and cost and benefits and trade offs and you just go whth— and trade offs and you just go whth epythhg— and trade offs and you just go with anything. we're getting in a with anything. we're getting in e ehtwetheh— with anything. we're getting in a situation now— with anything. we're getting in a situation now where there's a bit a situation now where there's a hhtle— a situation now where there's a hhtle twrhhhg— a situation now where there's a bit-a turning-in- a situation now where there's a bit a turning in the bit of a turning point in the teet— bit of a turning point in the teet-teye— bit of a turning point in the last days actually, in which last few days actually, in which were—teet- last few days actually, in which we're—heeh et- we're starting to look at gemhthhg— we're starting to look at. gemhthhg—aht gambling like tobacco. and thet-e— gambling like tobacco. and that's-public- gambling like tobacco. and that's public health that's what the public health tehhy—thhhg- that's what the public health . tehhy—thhhg-they lobby wants. the thing that they reetty—thhe— really liked from this legislation- really liked from this legislation that's been overlooked _ legislation that's been overlooked this legislation that's been overlooked .this levy overlooked is this huge levy thet-e— overlooked is this huge levy thet-e-pwt— overlooked is this huge levy that's-put.the- overlooked is this huge levy that's put the gambling that's been put on the gambling hmhetry— that's been put on the gambling hmhetry-h-t— that's been put on the gambling industry,-i'd like- that's been put on the gambling industry, i'd like to see industry, which i'd like to see go industry, which i'd like to see ge-whs— industry, which i'd like to see ge-whs te— industry, which i'd like to see go-nhs to treat- industry, which i'd like to see go nhs to treat problem go to the nhs to treat problem gemhtere. — go to the nhs to treat problem gemhtere. _t- go to the nhs to treat problem gamblers. _it is- go to the nhs to treat problem gamblers. it is going gamblers. a lot of it is going to gamblers. a lot of it is going te-eyphehet— gamblers. a lot of it is going to-syphoned off- gamblers. a lot of it is going to syphoned off towards to get syphoned off towards various public— to get syphoned off towards various public academics various public health academics and various public health academics ehe-te— various public health academics and-to campaign- and activists to campaign for eht— and activists to campaign for more and more regulation in a eert— more and more regulation in a eert et— more and more regulation in a eert et ehtt— more and more regulation in a sort of anti tobacco style in whheh— sort of anti tobacco style in whheh het— sort of anti tobacco style in which not just— sort of anti tobacco style in which not just problem gambling is which not just problem gambling he preeehtet— which not just problem gambling

is presented as— which not just problem gambling is presented as being the prehtem.— is presented as being the problem, but— is presented as being the problem, but gambling per se . problem, but gambling per se. etey.— problem, but gambling per se. otey. chrhe— problem, but gambling per se. okay. chris snowden— problem, but gambling per se. okay. chris snowden ,- problem, but gambling per se. okay. chris snowden, you get back to that mai tai cocktail now. great to have you on the show on a friday night. chris snowden from institute snowden is from the institute for affairs . it's for economic affairs. it's a fascinating debate. what do you think more controls for gamblers, especially younger think more controls for gamb marketpecially younger think more controls for gamb market gb ally younger think more controls for gamb market gb newsounger think more controls for gamb market gb news .ukger think more controls for gamb market gb news .uk coming ones. market gb news .uk coming up with the pundits are cycle lanes now a joke? do you feel politically homeless and should there be a limit to how many offspring you can parent all of that.

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pundits. tonight we have the leader of ukip. pundits. tonight we have the leader of ukip . he's the former leader of ukip. he's the former tory mp neil hamilton, broadcaster and presenter precious muir and journalist and former royal editor of the sun newspaper , duncan larcombe . lots newspaper, duncan larcombe. lots to get through. don't forget vicky michelle, comedy legend is in the studio in just a couple of minutes. but first, let's get to this. a bloodied and bruised pensioner has become the latest casualty of an optical illusion cycle lane, which has led to nearly 60 people being injured in the last year. dave dawson, who is 76, was visiting the high street in somerset on thursday when he tripped over the kerb, which appears level, leaving him with injuries to his hands and knees. with injuries to his hands and knees . so it begs the question knees. so it begs the question have cycle lanes become a joke? neil well, cycle lanes don't eehet— neil well, cycle lanes don't evhet where— neil well, cycle lanes don't exist where we _ neil well, cycle lanes don't exist where we live - \rri c well, cycle lanes don't exist where we live in the eewetry— exist where we live in the eewhtry. hwt— exist where we live in the country, but in— exist where we live in the country, but in towns particularly- country, but in towns particularly in london, they heme— particularly in london, they heme e— particularly in london, they become a nightmare for a variety of become a nightmare for a variety et . ehe— become a nightmare for a variety of reasons . one thing you've of reasons. one thing you've emy— of reasons. one thing you've ehty get— of reasons. one thing you've ehty get hett— of reasons. one thing you've only got half the— of reasons. one thing you've only got half the road space for thet— only got half the road space for

thet yew— only got half the road space for cars that you used— only got half the road space for cars that you used have , so cars that you used to have, so hte— cars that you used to have, so ht-e eetwetty— cars that you used to have, so it's actually increased pettwtheh— it's actually increased pollution problems as well as mete— pollution problems as well as mete ht— pollution problems as well as made it much— pollution problems as well as made it much difficult to made it much more difficult to get erewrt— made it much more difficult to get around town— made it much more difficult to get around town and cyclists themeetvee— get around town and cyclists themselves can— get around town and cyclists themselves can be a menace , of themselves can be a menace, of they— themselves can be a menace, of course. they shoot— themselves can be a menace, of course. they shoot through red thghte— course. they shoot through red thghte-get— course. they shoot through red thghte-get wp- course. they shoot through red thghte-get wp eh- lights and they get up on pevemehte— lights and they get up on pavements and so on. i used to toe— pavements and so on. i used to the e— pavements and so on. i used to the e-e— pavements and so on. i used to the e-e tet— pavements and so on. i used to the e-e tet hh— pavements and so on. i used to ride a a lot in london when ride a bike a lot in london when we-tehteh— ride a bike a lot in london when we-london years- ride a bike a lot in london when we london years ago, we lived in london years ago, hwt— we lived in london years ago, hwt thhhge—hh- we lived in london years ago,i but things—in those but things were easier in those eeye— but things were easier in those teye .— but things were easier in those teye . hwt— but things were easier in those days . but certainly i think the days. but certainly i think the heee— days. but certainly i think the htee et— days. but certainly i think the htee et eyete— days. but certainly i think the idea of cycle lanes is one of theee— idea of cycle lanes is one of those brilliant— idea of cycle lanes is one of those brilliant wheezes which thew— those brilliant wheezes which thew geet— those brilliant wheezes which thew geet hh— those brilliant wheezes which know good in theory, but they eeh-t— know good in theory, but they don't actually— know good in theory, but they don't actually work very well in preethee— don't actually work very well in practise because _ don't actually work very well in practise because they make practise because they just make life practise because they just make thte me— practise because they just make life more intolerable for the overwhelming— life more intolerable for the overwhelming majority people overwhelming majority of people . -heeh— overwhelming majority of people . _teeh eetmg- overwhelming majority of people . _been asking you. . well, i've been asking you onune . well, i've been asking you online , have cycling online, have cycling lanes become a joke? and holly, i think we've got the results in. do we? we've completed that poll. here we are . 93.4% say poll. here we are. 93.4% say yes, they're a joke 6.6% say no. they make a lot of sense. the people have spoken now close to 6 in 10 brits in another poll say there is no political party that tickles their fancy. that's according to the latest polling from unherd britain. so with a

widespread feeling of political ennui pervades the country, are you at home politically homeless ? if you're listening on the radio, do we have a generator on duncan larcombe of politically homeless people? well, would we be homeless people? well, would we he ewrprheet— homeless people? well, would we he ewrprheet ht— homeless people? well, would we be surprised if that— homeless people? well, would we be surprised if that was— 7 well, would we be surprised if that was the e.eee— be surprised if that was the when— be surprised if that was the case? when you— be surprised if that was the case? when you look at someone the— case? when you look at someone the wet— case? when you look at someone like matt hancock,— case? when you look at someone like matt hancock, mean , at like matt hancock, i mean, at the— like matt hancock, i mean, at the-et— like matt hancock, i mean, at the-er the— like matt hancock, i mean, at the of the pandemic, he's the time of the pandemic, he's the time of the pandemic, he's the me— the time of the pandemic, he's the .— the time of the pandemic, he's the . ee— the time of the pandemic, he's the man , one of— the time of the pandemic, he's the man , one of the men in the man, one of the men in eherge— the man, one of the men in eherge. amt— the man, one of the men in charge. and then a few months heter— charge. and then a few months teter. we— charge. and then a few months teter. we eee— charge. and then a few months later, we see him _ charge. and then a few months later, we see him eating tehgereee— later, we see him eating kangaroos on— later, we see him eating kangaroos on a television pregrem— kangaroos on a television pregrem. h— kangaroos on a television program. i mean, come on. i t— program. i mean, come on. i t h— program. i mean, come on. i mean, i, i struggle. i did a peththee— mean, i, i struggle. i did a politics degree— mean, i, i struggle. i did a politics degree and i've never heeh— politics degree and i've never been affiliated _ politics degree and i've never been affiliated with any perthewter— been affiliated with any particular political party. but i'd particular political party. but to eet— particular political party. but i'd ask myself— particular political party. but i'd ask myself the question twrhhg— i'd ask myself the question twrhhg the— i'd ask myself the question during the pandemic, my local mp reetty— during the pandemic, my local mp reetty .— during the pandemic, my local mp reetty . ee— during the pandemic, my local mp reetty . they— during the pandemic, my local mp really , are they the— during the pandemic, my local mp really , are they the best person really, are they the best person in really, are they the best person he the— really, are they the best person he the whete— really, are they the best person in the whole of— really, are they the best person in the whole of the constituency to in the whole of the constituency te he — in the whole of the constituency te he methhg — in the whole of the constituency to be making decisions on behalf of to be making decisions on behalf et ett— to be making decisions on behalf et ett the— to be making decisions on behalf of all the rest— to be making decisions on behalf of all the rest of— to be making decisions on behalf of all the rest of us? i'd argue het.— of all the rest of us? i'd argue het. amt— of all the rest of us? i'd argue het. aht tm— of all the rest of us? i'd argue not. and i'm i'm— of all the rest of us? i'd argue not. and i'm i'm so underwhelmed by not. and i'm i'm so underwhelmed hy peththehene— not. and i'm i'm so underwhelmed by politicians. no— not. and i'm i'm so underwhelmed by politicians. no offence for the— by politicians. no offence for the pehet— by politicians. no offence for the panel who— by politicians. no offence for the panel who are former politicians. _ the panel who are former politicians. well, of course wet-e— politicians. well, of course weht-e e— politicians. well, of course neil's a disrupter. \rri c neil's a disrupter. neil's hepmg— neil's a disrupter. neil's hepmg te— neil's a disrupter. neil's hoping to contradict all of that

with with ukip, isn't he? and that's what richard tice is trying to do. laurence fox and others. and you're hoping to jump others. and you're hoping to jump into that void? well, ukip has already been in that void successfully. if it wasn't for hth — successfully. if it wasn't for hth .— successfully. if it wasn't for hth . we — successfully. if it wasn't for ukip , we wouldn't- ii if it wasn't for ukip , we wouldn't have had ukip, we wouldn't have had hrevht— ukip, we wouldn't have had hrevht. hwt— ukip, we wouldn't have had brexit. but you're still an alternative— brexit. but you're still an alternative britain, aren't alternative for britain, aren't yewe— alternative for britain, aren't yewe-mweh- alternative for britain, aren't yewe-mweh ee- alternative for britain, aren't- you?-much so.-you you? oh, very much so. and you thew.— you? oh, very much so. and you knew thhh— you? oh, very much so. and you knew hth he— you? oh, very much so. and you know, ukip is a— you? oh, very much so. and you know, ukip is a grass roots movement developed movement that developed spontaneously— movement that developed spontaneously the spontaneously from below the mehetem — spontaneously from below the mainstream political parties are very— mainstream political parties are now very venerable. they've been erewht— now very venerable. they've been erewht ter— now very venerable. they've been erewht ter e— now very venerable. they've been around for a very— now very venerable. they've been around for a very long time. they-ve— around for a very long time. they've become— around for a very long time. they've become bureaucratised, eehtretty— they've become bureaucratised, centrally controlled. there's rhght— centrally controlled. there's rigid control— centrally controlled. there's rigid control over who can heme— rigid control over who can heme e— rigid control over who can become a candidate for these perthee— become a candidate for these perthee. teet— become a candidate for these parties. look what's happening whth— parties. look what's happening whth tetr— parties. look what's happening with keir starmer in the labour party— with keir starmer in the labour herty .— with keir starmer in the labour herty . arme— with keir starmer in the labour party . arnie destroying any party. arnie destroying any ewppert— party. arnie destroying any ewppert heee— party. arnie destroying any support base for the left. the treththehet— support base for the left. the traditional kind— support base for the left. the traditional kind of political heee— traditional kind of political heee et— traditional kind of political heee et the— traditional kind of political base of the labour party and in the tery— base of the labour party and in the tery htety.— base of the labour party and in the tory party. why have we got a the tory party. why have we got e eetteetheh— the tory party. why have we got a collection of— the tory party. why have we got a collection of complete nonentities_ a collection of complete nonentities in- a collection of complete nonentities in parliament repreeehthhg— nonentities in parliament representing the tory party is heewee— representing the tory party is because david— representing the tory party is because david cameron and george oeherhe— because david cameron and george oeherhe .— because david cameron and george oeherhe . heeh— because david cameron and george osborne . back in— because david cameron and george osborne . back in central osborne. back in 2010, central tyeet— osborne. back in 2010, central tyeet the— osborne. back in 2010, central lysed the candidate selection peee— lysed the candidate selection pee eht— lysed the candidate selection process and you— lysed the candidate selection process and you couldn't get eme— process and you couldn't get ehte the— process and you couldn't get onto the candidates list for constituencies— onto the candidates list for constituencies to have a look at

eht— constituencies to have a look at eht mete— constituencies to have a look at eht mete e— constituencies to have a look at and make a decision. unless you eerreepehtet— and make a decision. unless you corresponded to— and make a decision. unless you corresponded to the— and make a decision. unless you corresponded to the kind of eehtrhet— corresponded to the kind of centrist ideas— corresponded to the kind of centrist ideas that osborne and cemereh— centrist ideas that osborne and cemereh het.— centrist ideas that osborne and cameron had. that's why 70 years tetet— cameron had. that's why 70 years teter. we— cameron had. that's why 70 years teter. we ethtt— cameron had. that's why 70 years later, we still haven't delivered _ later, we still haven't delivered on - later, we still haven't delivered on brexit, for example . wew— delivered on brexit, for example . hew thew.— delivered on brexit, for example . you know, the— delivered on brexit, for example . you know, the party does not went— . you know, the party does not met te— . you know, the party does not met te te— . you know, the party does not met te te ht.— . you know, the party does not want to do it. the— . you know, the party does not want to do it. the establishment teem-t— want to do it. the establishment teeeh-t went— want to do it. the establishment doesn't want to _ want to do it. the establishment doesn't want to do _ want to do it. the establishment doesn't want to do it. they are establishment— doesn't want to do it. they are establishment parties. is establishment parties. ukip is the anti—establishment answer to all the anti—establishment answer to ett-the— the anti—establishment answer to all-the broadcaster- the anti—establishment answer to all the broadcaster tucker all this. the broadcaster tucker certeeh— all this. the broadcaster tucker certeeh-h— all this. the broadcaster tucker carlson, -i spoke - all this. the broadcaster tucker carlson, i spoke about carlson, who i spoke about eerthet— carlson, who i spoke about earlier, he's— carlson, who i spoke about earlier, he's the- carlson, who i spoke about earlier, he's the most watched preeehter— earlier, he's the most watched preeehter eh— earlier, he's the most watched presenter on american tv. ri presenter on american tv. he's teet— presenter on american tv. he's twet heeh— presenter on american tv. he's twet been three— presenter on american tv. he's just been fired by— presenter on american tv. he's just been fired by fox news and in his outgoing statement, which has gone viral , he's been has gone viral, he's been disparaging about both the republicans and the democrats. so this is clearly an issue across the west. the west of the western world. what true. and you know, donald trump,- : and you know, donald trump, whatever you know, donald trump, whatever yew mhght— you know, donald trump, whatever yew mhght thhh— you know, donald trump, whatever you might think of— you know, donald trump, whatever you might think of him, is a therwpter— you might think of him, is a therwpter ee— you might think of him, is a disrupter as well. he is an epreeeheh— disrupter as well. he is an expression of— disrupter as well. he is an expression of people's resentment- expression of people's resentment with the political process, which _ resentment with the political process, which has been taken eht— process, which has been taken over and bureaucratised by career politicians. yes. and yeve— career politicians. yes. and ywve get— career politicians. yes. and you've got legacy media. 3 you've got legacy media. i guess ywve— you've got legacy media. i guess ywve get— you've got legacy media. i guess you've now got legacy political parties are not delivering parties who are not delivering for people. precious you for the people. precious are you politically homeless ? i no, i

politically homeless? i no, i mean, i know who i- crichcc 7 i no, i mean, i know who i vote for heewee— mean, i know who i vote for heewee et— mean, i know who i vote for because of the— mean, i know who i vote for because of the policies , but i because of the policies, but i teet— because of the policies, but i teet hhte— because of the policies, but i feel like they're— because of the policies, but i feel like they're isolating the young— feel like they're isolating the young generation by requiring this young generation by requiring thhe hh— young generation by requiring thhe hh thhhg— young generation by requiring this id thing that's coming in. so this id thing that's coming in. he the— this id thing that's coming in. se thhe he— this id thing that's coming in. se thhe he why— this id thing that's coming in. so this is why i— this id thing that's coming in. so this is why i mean, i know thet— so this is why i mean, i know that obviously— so this is why i mean, i know that obviously it— so this is why i mean, i know that obviously it makes sense to heve— that obviously it makes sense to heve eh— that obviously it makes sense to have an identification on you as a have an identification on you as e pereeh— have an identification on you as e peee . hwt— have an identification on you as e peee . hwt ht— have an identification on you as a person , but it shouldn't be. a person, but it shouldn't be. hwt— a person, but it shouldn't be. hwt ht— a person, but it shouldn't be. but it shouldn't— a person, but it shouldn't be. but it shouldn't be mandatory heewee— but it shouldn't be mandatory heeewee-he— but it shouldn't be mandatory because is causing the because this is causing the yewhger— because this is causing the younger generation to not vote ehmpty— younger generation to not vote ehmpty hy— younger generation to not vote simply by theyie— younger generation to not vote simply by they're just not going to simply by they're just not going te ge— simply by they're just not going te ge threwgh— simply by they're just not going to go through that whole process and to go through that whole process eht get— to go through that whole process eht get the— to go through that whole process and get the identification that they— and get the identification that they heee— and get the identification that they met te— and get the identification that they need to vote. and this is why— they need to vote. and this is why-et— they need to vote. and this is why-er them— they need to vote. and this is why of them don't believe why some of them don't believe in why some of them don't believe he peththehene— why some of them don't believe in politicians. they— why some of them don't believe in politicians. they don't hetheve— in politicians. they don't believe that— in politicians. they don't believe that ,— in politicians. they don't believe that , you know, the believe that, you know, the gevemmeht— believe that, you know, the government has— believe that, you know, the government has their best hhtereete— government has their best interests-heart.- government has their best interests heart. and this is interests at heart. and this is why,— interests at heart. and this is why-thew.— interests at heart. and this is why,-know, we're- interests at heart. and this is why, know, we're failing . why, you know, we're failing. we're— why, you know, we're failing. we're tehhg— why, you know, we're failing. we're failing. okay.- why, you know, we're failing. we're failing. okay. well,- why, you know, we're failing. we're failing. okay. well, look, there go. your view there you go. what's your view on you politically on that? are you politically homeless? mark at gb news .uk at 10:00, i'll be dealing with matt hancock and his rather shocking covid hypocrisy . also, the covid hypocrisy. also, the striking unions and why i'm going to start a campaign to save branches of iceland . all of save branches of iceland. all of that after ten. but next up, comedy legend, tv icon vicki

michelle from allo allo and now eastenders is .

next because she's so excited because my brilliant mark meets guest is here. what do you want to do, darrell? if you've got one of those fancy sting things . look those fancy sting things. look at that. this show is not thrown together. it's time for mark meets in which i speak to the biggest names in the world of politics, showbiz and beyond. tonight, legend vicki tonight, acting legend vicki michelle, known for her countless tv roles such as patricia foster in emmerdale and perhaps most memorably as yvette carte—blanche in the classic bbc tv comedy series allo allo . she tv comedy series allo allo. she starred in the 14th series of i'm a celebrity and over the years has worked with the likes of joan collins, dudley moore, les dawson, kenny everett, ronnie corbett and many others.

the list goes on. mark dolan. she's also a very successful entrepreneur and film producer, and in 2010 she was awarded the mbe for her services to charity. she's currently just off the back of a stint in eastenders as joe cotton , where once again she joe cotton, where once again she won the hearts of millions of viewers . vicki michelle obe. viewers. vicki michelle obe. welcome to mark dolan tonight. well, it's lovely to be here. ttert — well, it's lovely to be here. ttert tett— well, it's lovely to be here. mark tell me— well, it's lovely to be here. mark well, it's lovely to be here.- mark tell me about that award, the gong who actually gave it to you? the obe well, it was , of you? the obe well, it was, of course, the queen and no depufies course, the queen and no deputies. no, course, the queen and no deputies . no, no, no. as much course, the queen and no deputies. no, no, no. as much as i deputies. no, no, no. as much as h heve— deputies. no, no, no. as much as h teve theme.— deputies. no, no, no. as much as i love charlie, i— deputies. no, no, no. as much as i love charlie, i was— : no, no, no. as much as i love charlie, i was really weetee— i love charlie, i was really wehtet the— i love charlie, i was really wanted the queen to give it to art— wanted the queen to give it to art ehe— wanted the queen to give it to me. and she did.— wanted the queen to give it to me. and she did. and- wanted the queen to give it to me. ' ' me. and she did. and she was amazing. and i had a little chat whth— amazing. and i had a little chat whth her.— amazing. and i had a little chat whth her. the— amazing. and i had a little chat with her. this was— amazing. and i had a little chat with her. this was in— 9 and i had a little chat with her. this was in 2010. yes:— with her. this was in 2010. tee. ht— with her. this was in 2010. tee. ht — with her. this was in 2010. yes, it was. so _ with her. this was in 2010. yes, it was. so she- with her. this was in 2010. yes, it was. so she enjoyed better health then? oh, yes. i mean, she stood— better health then? oh, yes. i mean, she stood for- c�*tii7 oh, yes. i mean, she stood for hours, rhghte — mean, she stood for hours, right? hours— mean, she stood for hours, right? g right? hours seeing all these people. she was amazing. and what was it like just to be in her presence and seeing her face to face, especially for that moment? i was in

moment? as an equal, i was in awe. when you look back at the phetee— awe. when you look back at the phetee eht— awe. when you look back at the phetee eht tm— when you look back at the photos and i'm looking up at her and photos and i'm looking up at her eht tm— photos and i'm looking up at her eht h-m twet— photos and i'm looking up at her and i'm just like— photos and i'm looking up at her and i'm just like going, oh my cot.— and i'm just like going, oh my eet. h— and i'm just like going, oh my eet. h eeh-t— and i'm just like going, oh my god, i can't believe it's the owhee— god, i can't believe it's the owhee amt— god, i can't believe it's the queen. and yeah, a queen. and yeah, it was a wehtertwt— queen. and yeah, it was a wonderful, wonderful occasion. my wonderful, wonderful occasion. try—heh- wonderful, wonderful occasion. try—hem wee- wonderful, wonderful occasion. my_mum was therej wonderful, wonderful occasion. . my_mum was there at my mummy, my mum was there at the so i think that's the time, so i think that's often the case with knighthoods . obe as much for the . obe obe. it's as much for the temhty— . obe obe. it's as much for the temhty eht— . obe obe. it's as much for the family and friends— obe obe. it's as much for the family and friends as it is for yew.— family and friends as it is for yew. oh— family and friends as it is for yew. eh yee. — family and friends as it is for you. oh yes. yeah.- family and friends as it is for you. oh yes. h/rich" c family and friends as it is for you. oh yes. / c you. oh yes. yeah. but it was such a great honour and, and i was determined to to her was determined to talk to her so. so i did. there's a surprise, as i said. did you hhtwtge— surprise, as i said. did you hhtwtge hh— surprise, as i said. did you indulge in any— surprise, as i said. did you indulge in any ella- r: did you indulge in any ella whelan etyte— indulge in any ella whelan style, innuendo— indulge in any ella whelan style, innuendo or. what did you eeye— style, innuendo or. what did you eeye h— style, innuendo or. what did you eeye r eetwetty— style, innuendo or. what did you say? i actually said— style, innuendo or. what did you say? i actually said i hear the oweeh— say? i actually said i hear the oweeh-hhg- say? i actually said i hear the oweeh-hhg teh- say? i actually said i hear the queen-big fan of. say? i actually said i hear the queen big fan of allo queen mum is a big fan of allo atte— queen mum is a big fan of allo atte . — queen mum is a big fan of allo atte . art— queen mum is a big fan of allo allo . and she— queen mum is a big fan of allo allo . and she said— queen mum is a big fan of allo allo . ' r: r: yris ' r: allo. and she said yes. and i went and, and i said and mum and at that time i think i was doing at that time i think i was doing a raccoon play over the road to windsor. was that run for your whte. — windsor. was that run for your we we— windsor. was that run for your we we ht— windsor. was that run for your wife. no it was. _ windsor. was that run for your wife. no it was. oh- �*vhvhh' : was that run for your wife. no it was. hcj" ccri“ wife. no it was. oh he's written a few was it was about london, you know the east end of london. i remember that one as well. andr— i remember that one as well. art. eht— i remember that one as well. art. eht h— i remember that one as well. and, and i said— i remember that one as well. and, and i said mum- i remember that one as well. and, and i said mum because she's patron of the theatre. i said if you'd like to pop over and she said yes, well that's

it. you managed to get some temer— it. you managed to get some hehter ewt— it. you managed to get some banter out of— it. you managed to get some banter out of the— c you managed to get some banter out of the late, great oweeh— banter out of the late, great queen elizabeth. you'd a queen elizabeth. you'd had a tehg— queen elizabeth. you'd had a tehg-hetere— queen elizabeth. you'd had a long-before allo,- queen elizabeth. you'd had a long before allo, allo. long career before allo, allo. hwt— long career before allo, allo. hwt-thet— long career before allo, allo. but-that the _ long career before allo, allo. but-that the part- long career before allo, allo. but that the part that but was that the part that ehehget— but was that the part that ehehget yewr— but was that the part that changed your life? yes, i think i i changed your life? yes, i think h-h we— changed your life? yes, i think i-i was known- changed your life? yes, i think i-i was known within. changed your life? yes, i thinki i-i was known within the i was. i was known within the industry because worked with i was. i was known within the indthey because worked with i was. i was known within the indthe legends.t worked with i was. i was known within the indthe legends. i worked with i was. i was known within the indthe legends. i mean, (ed with all the legends. i mean, i started off doing things like softly, mind softly, softly mind professionals working with george cole minder. what george cole in minder. what a genius. what a genius and a gorgeous man, you know? so you know, and i love people- dd 7 so you know, and i love people that are gehhweee— know, and i love people that are gehhweee ptwe— know, and i love people that are geniuses plus they're lovely. oeerge— geniuses plus they're lovely. eeerge cete— geniuses plus they're lovely. george cole, very— geniuses plus they're lovely. george cole, very different to the actor. he played very different to the role he played as. as arthur dodi. yes. yes just a normal, normal. quite gwhet— just a normal, normal. quite gwhet eht— just a normal, normal. quite quiet and quite— just a normal, normal. quite quiet and quite well—spoken . quiet and quite well—spoken. owhte— quiet and quite well—spoken. quite well—spoken. h/ris quite well—spoken. yes, eheetwtety— quite well—spoken. h/ris cricy absolutely. and so absolutely. absolutely. and so i did absolutely. absolutely. and so i the thet— absolutely. absolutely. and so i the thet then— absolutely. absolutely. and so i did that then i— absolutely. absolutely. and so i did that then i worked- cricy absolutely. and so i did that then i worked with the eemehtehe — did that then i worked with the eemehtehe h— did that then i worked with the comedians. i think i worked with ken comedians. i think i worked with here hett— comedians. i think i worked with here hett .— comedians. i think i worked with here hett . tee— comedians. i think i worked with ken dodd , les dawson, ken dodd , ken dodd, les dawson, ken dodd, tee.— ken dodd, les dawson, ken dodd, tee. htemhe— ken dodd, les dawson, ken dodd, too. ronnie saw— ken dodd, les dawson, ken dodd, too. ronnie saw me— ken dodd, les dawson, ken dodd, too. ronnie saw me with cannon eht— too. ronnie saw me with cannon eht hett— too. ronnie saw me with cannon eht hett eht— too. ronnie saw me with cannon and ball and the— too. ronnie saw me with cannon and ball and the ronnies and yes,— and ball and the ronnies and yee thttte— and ball and the ronnies and yes, little and— and ball and the ronnies and yes, little and large, all of them. — yes, little and large, all of them. tett— yes, little and large, all of them. tell me— yes, little and large, all of them. tell me about. and then thet— them. tell me about. and then thet eet— them. tell me about. and then thet eet me— them. tell me about. and then that set me on— them. tell me about. and then that set me on the— them. tell me about. and then that set me on the road to getthhg— that set me on the road to getthhg the— that set me on the road to getting the comedy part. so thet-e— getting the comedy part. so thet-e hew— getting the comedy part. so that's how you— getting the comedy part. so that's how you what- getting the comedy part. so that's how you what about the two ronnies? ronnie corbett?

ronnie barker. we won't see the likes of them again, will we? no no, i think it will be lovely if we could. but they were just wehtertwt— i: but they were just wonderful. wonderful to work whth— wonderful. wonderful to work with geniuses— wonderful. wonderful to work with geniuses just knew how to mete— with geniuses just knew how to mete peepte— with geniuses just knew how to make people laugh and i learnt a lot make people laugh and i learnt a tet heewee— make people laugh and i learnt a lot because when— make people laugh and i learnt a lot because when i— make people laugh and i learnt a lot because when i was working whth— lot because when i was working whth them.— lot because when i was working whth them. yew— lot because when i was working with them, you watch what they do with them, you watch what they te eht — with them, you watch what they te eht whet— with them, you watch what they do and what did— with them, you watch what they do and what did you learn from the thtee— do and what did you learn from the thtee et— do and what did you learn from the likes of the— do and what did you learn from the likes of the two ronnies? i thhh— the likes of the two ronnies? i thhht thmhg— the likes of the two ronnies? i think timing, i— the likes of the two ronnies? i think timing, i think that i've prehehty— think timing, i think that i've probably always— think timing, i think that i've probably always had an inherent thmhg— probably always had an inherent timing because— probably always had an inherent timing because everyone used to eey.— timing because everyone used to eey. hew-e— timing because everyone used to eey. vewre reetty— timing because everyone used to say, you're really your say, you're really good, your thmhg— say, you're really good, your thmhhg-geet- say, you're really good, your timing-good for- say, you're really good, your timing good for him. i timing is really good for him. i then-t— timing is really good for him. i thth-t eveh— timing is really good for him. i didn't even know— timing is really good for him. i didn't even know what it was at the thme— didn't even know what it was at the three amt— didn't even know what it was at the time. and but— didn't even know what it was at the time. and but you're teemhhg— the time. and but you're learninglfrom - the time. and but you're learning from the people learning it from all the people yeve— learning it from all the people ywve wewet— learning it from all the people you've worked with. /rirc. you've worked with. you know, when— when they're taking their pause for whatever. and for the laugh or whatever. and so i learnt a lot from them. are— so i learnt a lot from them. and discipline— so i learnt a lot from them. and discipline really,- so i learnt a lot from them. and discipline really, russell's preparation, that kind i preparation, that kind of i mean, the likes ronnie mean, the likes of ronnie barker, the barker, he was quite the perfectionist, told. yes, he perfectionist, i'm told. yes, he was. but he was just- i" crircr: yes, he was. but he was just always tevety— was. but he was just always tevety te— was. but he was just always lovely to-but- was. but he was just always lovely to _but he- was. but he was just always. lovely to _but he wanted was. but he was just always- lovely to _but he wanted it lovely to me. but he wanted it just right. yes, was just right. yes, he was a perfectionist— just right. yes, he was a perfectionist . - just right. yes, he was a perfectionist . tell- . 3 yes, he was a perfectionist. just right. yes, he was a perfectionist . tell me about perfectionist. tell me about working on allo allo. i think it was roughly 85 episodes, which is almost unprecedented for a

british sitcom . um, when you british sitcom. um, when you started the series , did you know started the series, did you know you were part of something special? well, i think when i reet— special? well, i think when i reet the— special? well, i think when i read the script— special? well, i think when i read the script that- i chc7 well, i think when i read the script that i. we were ghveh— read the script that i. we were ghveh the— read the script that i. we were given the script— read the script that i. we were given the script before we went hhte— given the script before we went hhte te — given the script before we went hhte te reet — given the script before we went into to read for— given the script before we went into to read for the part . and into to read for the part. and you— into to read for the part. and yew wee— into to read for the part. and you were laughing out loud at the eerhpt— you were laughing out loud at the script and— you were laughing out loud at the script and this was the ptet— the script and this was the phtet eht— the script and this was the phtet eht yew— the script and this was the pilot and you just went, oh, the— pilot and you just went, oh, thhe he— pilot and you just went, oh, thhe he the— pilot and you just went, oh, this is this is— pilot and you just went, oh, this is this is good. and then when— this is this is good. and then when they— this is this is good. and then when they decided to do it, whheh— when they decided to do it, whheh teet— when they decided to do it, which took forever, i mean, it ehewt— which took forever, i mean, it ehewt e— which took forever, i mean, it was about a year— which took forever, i mean, it was about a year and a half heree— was about a year and a half hetere they— was about a year and a half before they decided to go ahead whth— before they decided to go ahead whth ht— before they decided to go ahead with it because— before they decided to go ahead with it because it— before they decided to go ahead with it because it was about the eht— with it because it was about the war and everything . but sir war and everything. but sir ttheheet—hel war and everything. but sir michael—no, i. war and everything. but sir. michael—no, i want war and everything. but sir- michael_no, i want to michael grade said no, i want to do michael grade said no, i want to rte-then— michael grade said no, i want to te-theh h— michael grade said no, i want to te-theh h get— michael grade said no, i want to do-then i got the- michael grade said no, i want to do then i got the part do it. and then i got the part of do it. and then i got the part et yvette— do it. and then i got the part et yvette h— do it. and then i got the part of yvette i read— do it. and then i got the part of yvette i read for michelle eht— of yvette i read for michelle eht yvette — of yvette i read for michelle eht yvette .— of yvette i read for michelle and yvette , right? and i got the and yvette, right? and i got the port— and yvette, right? and i got the pert-yvette— and yvette, right? and i got the pertleette .— and yvette, right? and i got the part-yvette , and— and yvette, right? and i got the part yvette , and the rest was part of yvette, and the rest was hhetery.— part of yvette, and the rest was hhetery. ht— part of yvette, and the rest was hhetery. ht wee— part of yvette, and the rest was history. it was just— part of yvette, and the rest was history. it was just such a twmy— history. it was just such a twmy tewgh— history. it was just such a funny laugh out loud show. hrhttheht— funny laugh out loud show. brilliant writers, you know, hevht— brilliant writers, you know, hevht crett— brilliant writers, you know, david croft and— brilliant writers, you know, david croft and jeremy lloyd , david croft and jeremy lloyd, yew— david croft and jeremy lloyd, yew eewtth-t— david croft and jeremy lloyd, you couldn't get— david croft and jeremy lloyd, you couldn't get better. ahezmg— you couldn't get better. amazing formula.- you couldn't get better. amazing formula. they had so prolific as well. the series was was very consistent . it all held was very consistent. it all held together by the legend. that was gordon kay . yes. yeah. together by the legend. that was gordon kay. yes. yeah. your egeee— gordon kay. yes. yeah. your squeeze on the— c: yes. yeah. your squeeze on the show. ci" yes. yeah. your squeeze on the show. iiy gordon kay. yes. yeah. your- squeeze on the show. my squeeze . the— squeeze on the show. my squeeze . the meet— squeeze on the show. my squeeze . the most unlikely—

squeeze on the show. my squeeze . the most unlikely sex- squeeze on the show. iiy : the most unlikely sex symbol. . the most unlikely sex symbol. so . the most unlikely sex symbol. se thet— . the most unlikely sex symbol. se thet we— . the most unlikely sex symbol. se thet eh— . the most unlikely sex symbol. so that was an important- so that was an important relationship , i suppose. the relationship, i suppose. the chemistry you two had. yes, it was. yeah. and i think- ii “it: yes, it was. yeah. and i think but it whth— was. yeah. and i think but it was with the _ was. yeah. and i think but it was with the whole cast was hmpertent— was with the whole cast was hmperteht. h— was with the whole cast was important. i mean, i think that hevht— important. i mean, i think that hevht eeht— important. i mean, i think that hevht eeht et— important. i mean, i think that david said at one— important. i mean, i think that david said at one time, david crett— david said at one time, david crett eeht— david said at one time, david croft said usually— david said at one time, david croft said usually there's 2 or 3 characters— croft said usually there's 2 or 3 characters that— croft said usually there's 2 or 3 characters that will, you know . jump— 3 characters that will, you know . jump ett— 3 characters that will, you know . jump err the— 3 characters that will, you know , jump off the screen and they-tt— , jump off the screen and they-ht he— , jump off the screen and they'll be the _ , jump off the screen and they'll be the main stars . but they'll be the main stars. but eetwetty— they'll be the main stars. but eetwetty we— they'll be the main stars. but actually we had— they'll be the main stars. but actually we had about 14 characters— actually we had about 14 characters and- actually we had about 14 characters and they were all mehh— characters and they were all etee — characters and they were all main stars. the— characters and they were all main stars. . main stars. the character hair flick, hair flick. helga and then geoffrey holland as the french policeman. no, not geoffrey holland. geoffrey no, no . arthur bostrom moaning no. arthur bostrom moaning arthur . no. arthur bostrom moaning arthur. arthur. bostrom. i've got to get this right. but geoffrey holland - got to get this right. but geoffrey holland is- grirc gric . 3 but geoffrey holland is fabulous as wet — geoffrey holland is fabulous as wett he— geoffrey holland is fabulous as wet he we— geoffrey holland is fabulous as well. he was part— geoffrey holland is fabulous as well. he was part of- geoffrey holland is fabulous as well. he was part of that part of that wonderful stable of comedy actors from that era . comedy actors from that era. would you get away with the humour? like the humour from ella whelan now ? because it was ella whelan now? because it was cheeky, wasn't it? it was cheeky. a bit sexy. yes a bit sexy. a schoolboy humour . cheeky. a bit sexy. yes a bit sexy. a schoolboy humour. yeah. you sexy. a schoolboy humour. yeah. yew thew.— sexy. a schoolboy humour. yeah. you know, it just made you laugh out loud and. and it would be

sad if we couldn't. i think that people are so worried about what they say nowadays is that we don't. we've lost our sense of humour. and i think that's why when repeat allo now when they repeat allo allo now on yesterday or drama everyone tunes in can't get enough of it. they get enough it they can't get enough of it because to. we need to because you need to. we need to laugh. need those sort of laugh. we need those sort of humorous shows back again. tell me about your time in the- me about your time in the twpgte— jungle. you were alongside ttheheet— jungle. you were alongside michael-and- jungle. you were alongside- michael-and-currie. michael buerk and edwina currie. yes,— michael buerk and edwina currie. yeelregwter— michael buerk and edwina currie. yeelregwter eh— michael buerk and edwina currie. yes,lregular on this— michael buerk and edwina currie. yes, regular on this show. yes, a regular on this show. tett— yes, a regular on this show. tett me— yes, a regular on this show. tell me about— yes, a regular on this show. tell me about edwina . well. tell me about edwina. well. wett— tell me about edwina. well. wett wher— tell me about edwina. well. wett when r— tell me about edwina. well. well, when i found- tell me about edwina. well. well, when i found out- tell me about edwina. well. well, when i found out edwina was going on, i thought, we're not going to get on. and but she was amazing. we got on so well and she's really flirty. she was flirting. she is. and she's very practical down earth, practical and down to earth, isn't she? she's no nonsense. we.— isn't she? she's no nonsense. no.and isn't she? she's no nonsense. no. and also, she did all of her trials , you know, she just went, trials, you know, she just went, no, i'm going to do it. and she was honest and when was very honest and when i disagreed on a couple disagreed with her on a couple of she said she she said of things, she said she she said no, but quite entitled. no, but you're quite entitled. it like she tried to it wasn't like she tried to batter me to say no, this isn't right. you should think like this. listened. and this. she just listened. and what the creepy what about you and the creepy

crawly eyes and your brilliant bushtucker trials ? you were bushtucker trials? you were heroic. oh, bless you . yeah, i heroic. oh, bless you. yeah, i think you just because think that you just because you're doing it for someone else, that you've got the whole team because got team to, because you've got to feed right? got to feed them, right? you've got to feed them, right? you've got to feed and so you have feed them and so you have a different aspect. so you're working as team. and i think working as a team. and i think that that's what comes into play. so just, you sort of play. so you just, you sort of blot out the did you having play. so you just, you sort of b|script, the did you having play. so you just, you sort of b|script, having you having play. so you just, you sort of b|script, having gags having play. so you just, you sort of b|script, having gags , havinging a script, having gags, having producers? oh , well, having an producers? oh, well, having an ether.— producers? oh, well, having an ether. yew— producers? oh, well, having an editor, you know,— producers? oh, well, having an editor, you know, this- c7 7 oh, well, having an editor, you know, this is this is editor, you know, this is this he tm— editor, you know, this is this he h-m e— editor, you know, this is this is i'm a celebrity- editor, you know, this is this is i'm a celebrity / this is is i'm a celebrity yeah. this is reetty— is i'm a celebrity yeah. this is reethty tw— is i'm a celebrity yeah. this is reethty ty. we— is i'm a celebrity / this is reality tv. no character to hide pehht— reality tv. no character to hide hehhht. wee— reality tv. no character to hide behind. was that— reality tv. no character to hide behind. was that hard for you? no, behind. was that hard for you? we. heewee— behind. was that hard for you? no, because i'm— behind. was that hard for you? no, because i'm just— behind. was that hard for you? no, because i'm just me.- behind. was that hard for you? no, because i'm just me. you know, and i think that and also , you know, when you're touring, i've done loads of touring theatre you're on you're on theatre and you're on you're on theatre and you're on you're on the road with loads of actors. well, this was like the same. i'm just in i'm living all i'm just in i'm living with all of sort of some actors, of these sort of some actors, some not so it didn't really bother think that bother me. and i think that people got upset about not eating and i thought, well, you'd thousands for this you'd pay thousands for this diet. mean, that's exactly diet. i mean, that's exactly right. you think of the weight teee.— right. you think of the weight loss. _definitely. - loss. exactly definitely. and the—

loss. exactly definitely. and the-et— loss. exactly definitely. and the-et-et- loss. exactly definitely. and the-et-et ht.| loss. exactly definitely. and. the-at-of it. so the check at the end of it. so no the check at the end of it. so he regrete— the check at the end of it. so no regrets going— the check at the end of it. so no regrets going into the twpgte— no regrets going into the twhgte. we.— no regrets going into the jungle. no. and then you have more-gone into- jungle. no. and then you have more gone into the more recently gone into the ewereg— more recently gone into the square, albert— more recently gone into the square, albert square. yes. rwggemewt— square, albert square. yes. juggernaut show, eastenders juggernaut of a show, eastenders . tehwtewe— juggernaut of a show, eastenders . fabulous. how— juggernaut of a show, eastenders . fabulous. how different is werthhg— . fabulous. how different is werthhg eh— . fabulous. how different is werthhg eh e— . fabulous. how different is working on a show like that to reeerthhg— working on a show like that to recording sitcom? �*vhvhh'ricc working on a show like that to recording sitcom? �*vhvhrhricc recording a sitcom? well, we wher— recording a sitcom? well, we when we— recording a sitcom? well, we when we recorded the sitcom, we had like a week, like five days rehearsal, and then we'd go into the studio a live audience the studio with a live audience and then now we're doing eastenders. it's like they give you the script, you run it a couple of times with the actors and then they record it and that's it. so it's quite daunting. when i first started doing it , but daunting. when i first started doing it, but you got to know your lines and you've got to be ready to. you've got to be ready. but i mean, but if you fluff them, they go back over it. but everyone did. brian fluffed his and jilly your sitcom training help you in eastenders i think just training as an actress and having done loads of plays and theatre and you know i've been in the business over 50 years so i think i'm quite good at it now. you made that's an understatement. you made a

epteeh— understatement. you made a epteeh hh— understatement. you made a epteeh he the— understatement. you made a splash in the square.- c. you made a splash in the square. any chance of splash in the square. any chance et e— splash in the square. any chance et e retwrhe — splash in the square. any chance of a return? well,— splash in the square. any chance of a return? well, i'm- splash in the square. any chance of a return? �*vhvhh'ricc r; of a return? well, i'm hoping because it was people love the character. she was such a good character. she was such a good character. i mean, it was like, you mug. i just went different. vicky again, different vicky egehh— vicky again, different vicky again, incarnation. it was , but again, incarnation. it was, but it again, incarnation. it was, but ht wee— again, incarnation. it was, but ht eweh— again, incarnation. it was, but it was such fun. _ again, incarnation. it was, but it was such fun. ' r: it was such fun. and she's a really strong character and, and, and there's lots of places she can go. so i do hope they bnng she can go. so i do hope they bring her back because she was wonderful to play . look, it was wonderful to play. look, it was wehtertwt— wonderful to play. look, it was wehtertwt te— wonderful to play. look, it was wonderful to have— wonderful to play. look, it was wonderful to have you- : look, it was wonderful to have you in the etwthe— wonderful to have you in the etwthe eht— wonderful to have you in the studio and i'm— wonderful to have you in the studio and i'm a— wonderful to have you in the studio and i'm a huge fan of yee— studio and i'm a huge fan of yewre.|het— studio and i'm a huge fan of yours. ihad the— studio and i'm a huge fan of yours. had the privilege of yours. i had the privilege of meethhg— yours. i had the privilege of meeting-couple- yours. i had the privilege of meeting couple of times. meeting you a couple of times. all meeting you a couple of times. at the— meeting you a couple of times. at the teet— meeting you a couple of times. all the best for— meeting you a couple of times. all the best for your daughter as all the best for your daughter ee wett — all the best for your daughter ee wett yee— all the best for your daughter as well. yes. you've- all the best for your daughter as well. “is /rirc. : all the best for your daughter as well. /risr /rirc. : as well. yes. you've worked with my daughter. very talented etreee— my daughter. very talented actress - michelle, - my daughter. very talented. actress - michelle, who's actress louise michelle, who's a very—ee- actress louise michelle, who's a very—ee wettl very funny comedian as well, mweh— very funny comedian as well, mweh hhte— very funny comedian as well, much like her— very funny comedian as well, much like her mum. brilliant much like her mum. so brilliant etwtt—we- much like her mum. so brilliant stuff. _us soon- much like her mum. so brillianti stuff._us soon and stuff. come and see us soon and get-teet— stuff. come and see us soon and get-heeh hhte- get yourself back into eastenders— get yourself back into . eastenders-they get yourself back into - eastenders-they need eastenders because they need yew.— eastenders because they need yew. oh— eastenders because they need you. oh .thanks_ eastenders because they need you. oh thanks to vicky. you. oh my thanks to vicky. tthehette— you. oh my thanks to vicky. mehete-e— you. oh my thanks to vicky. michelle, a delightful michelle, what a delightful conversation _ michelle, what a delightful conversation you michelle, what a delightful- conversation _you need conversation that was. you need a conversation that was. you need elet— conversation that was. you need elet e— conversation that was. you need elet e emhte— conversation that was. you need elet e emhte eh— conversation that was. you need a.of a smile on a- conversation that was. you need a of a smile on a friday a bit of a smile on a friday hhght.— a bit of a smile on a friday hhght-yewe- a bit of a smile on a friday night, you? well, we'll night, don't you? well, we'll keep— night, don't you? well, we'll keep thet— night, don't you? well, we'll keep thet gehhg— night, don't you? well, we'll keep that going after ten heewee— keep that going after ten because in— keep that going after ten because in my- keep that going after ten because in my take ten, i'll because in my take at ten, i'll because in my take at ten, i'll he teethhg— because in my take at ten, i'll be dealing with— because in my take at ten, i'll be dealing with that prime mmpty— be dealing with that prime numpty, hancock . also the numpty, matt hancock. also the ewet— numpty, matt hancock. also the ewet-whe— numpty, matt hancock. also the cruel-who want-

numpty, matt hancock. also the cruel who want ruin cruel unions who want to ruin the— cruel unions who want to ruin the ta— cruel unions who want to ruin the ta-thhet— cruel unions who want to ruin the fa-final and- cruel unions who want to ruin the fa final and save our the fa cup final and save our heeteht— the fa cup final and save our iceland more— the fa cup final and save our iceland more of— the fa cup final and save our iceland more of that .

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tthghte— tomorrow for us to cease those tthghte . — tomorrow for us to cease those flights . richard— tomorrow for us to cease those flights. 3i: flights. richard sharp has resigned as chairman of the bbc after a report found that he breached the rules for public appointments. the review says he failed to properly disclose his involvement in facilitating an £800,000 loan guarantee for bods £800,000 loan guarantee for boris johnson. mr sharp says the breach was inadvertent and he's quitting to prioritise the interests of the broadcaster following calls from labour that he should have been sacked. the prime minister says the right process was followed. this is about doing things properly and professionally and when concerns are raised it's right that there is a proper process and an independent process that we don't prejudge. we allow it to eemy— don't prejudge. we allow it to eerry eh— don't prejudge. we allow it to carry on, establish— don't prejudge. we allow it to carry on, establish the- chi?“ c 33 we allow it to carry on, establish the facts of whet— carry on, establish the facts of whet heppehet— carry on, establish the facts of whet heppehet .— carry on, establish the facts of what happened , reach a what happened, reach a conclusion— what happened, reach a conclusion that's happened . conclusion that's happened. hhehert— conclusion that's happened. richard sharp— conclusion that's happened. richard sharp has resigned, but it's richard sharp has resigned, but ht-e rhght— richard sharp has resigned, but the rhght thet— richard sharp has resigned, but it's right that we— richard sharp has resigned, but it's right that we do these thhhge— it's right that we do these things properly and professionally. most professionally. i think most peepte— professionally. i think most peepte-thet- professionally. i think most people that that's people will think that that's the-thhhg— people will think that that's the -thing.do. - the right thing to do. scotland's— the right thing to do. scotland's police- the right thing to do. scotland's police watchdog has launched investigation into launched an investigation into the death of a pregnant teacher . the announcement comes after police found the body of her

missing partner at a reservoir near glasgow . officers had been near glasgow. officers had been looking for 36 year old david yates after morrell sturrock was killed at her home on tuesday. she was 29 weeks pregnant. her unborn baby did not survive. mr yates's death is not being treated as suspicious . unions treated as suspicious. unions representing teachers and head teachers in england say they'll take co—ordinated strike action in the autumn after accusing the government of wanting education on the cheap. the general secretary of four unions say they'll now work together in their long running dispute over pay- their long running dispute over pay. so after they rejected the government's offer of one a off payment of £1,000 and an average pay payment of £1,000 and an average pay rise of 4.5% next year, the national association of head teachers says the decision sends a clear signal to the government that the dispute is not going away . well, health workers away. well, health workers belonging to the gmb union have accepted the government's 5% pay offer. gmb officials say they'll

now vote on the offer at a meeting of the nhs staff council next week. health secretary steve barclay says the deal recognises iss the outstanding job that nhs staff do whilst protecting the government's commitment to halve inflation on tv online on dab+ radio and on tune in to this is gb news. back now to . now to. mark thanks to now to. mark. . thanks to ray now to. mark— . thanks to ray addison. te. hert— - thanks to ray addison. we'll thanks to ray addison. we'll see hour. welcome- thanks to ray addison. we'll see hour. welcome to. see you in an hour. welcome to wert— see you in an hour. welcome to etert-tehhght— see you in an hour. welcome to- mark-tonight.-newsmaker mark dolan tonight. my newsmaker this mark dolan tonight. my newsmaker thhe evehhhg— mark dolan tonight. my newsmaker this evening-the— mark dolan tonight. my newsmaker this evening the fearless this evening is the fearless peththeet— this evening is the fearless political commentator godfrey hteem— political commentator godfrey hteemlhe— political commentator godfrey bloom. be asking whether bloom. i'll be asking whether the ehvht— bloom. i'll be asking whether the civil service— bloom. i'll be asking whether the civil service ,— bloom. i'll be asking whether the civil service , which is the civil service, which is increasingly— the civil service, which is increasingly political , is increasingly political, is werthhg— increasingly political, is working against the will of the hrhtheh— working against the will of the hrhtheh peepte.— working against the will of the british people. plus mark dolan tehhght— british people. plus mark dolan tehhght he— british people. plus mark dolan tehhght he the— british people. plus mark dolan tonight is the home of the pepere— tonight is the home of the pepere whth— tonight is the home of the papers with tomorrow's front pages— papers with tomorrow's front pegee trem — papers with tomorrow's front pages from 1030 with reaction trem— pages from 1030 with reaction trem my— pages from 1030 with reaction from my pundits— pages from 1030 with reaction from my pundits . so they'll also from my pundits. so they'll also be from my pundits. so they'll also he eheeehhg—

from my pundits. so they'll also be choosing their— from my pundits. so they'll also be choosing their headline heeee— be choosing their headline heeee eht— be choosing their headline heroes and back page baddies. a reetty— heroes and back page baddies. a reetty ewey— heroes and back page baddies. a really busy hour— heroes and back page baddies. a really busy hour to— heroes and back page baddies. a really busy hour to come. happy trhtey— really busy hour to come. happy trhtey. ee— really busy hour to come. happy trhtey. eht— really busy hour to come. happy friday, one and all.— really busy hour to come. happy friday, one and all. big eterhee— friday, one and all. big stories, big— friday, one and all. big stories, big guests and always big stories, big guests and always hhg ephhene— stories, big guests and always big opinions. let's kick off the hem— big opinions. let's kick off the hewr whth— big opinions. let's kick off the hewr whth my— big opinions. let's kick off the hour with my take . at ten. not hour with my take. at ten. not eethethet— hour with my take. at ten. not satisfied with— hour with my take. at ten. not satisfied with instructing ambulance _ satisfied with instructing ambulance workers, nurses and twhher— ambulance workers, nurses and twhher teetere— ambulance workers, nurses and junior doctors to _ ambulance workers, nurses and junior doctors to withdraw their tehewr.— junior doctors to withdraw their tehewr. whheh— junior doctors to withdraw their labour, which will— junior doctors to withdraw their labour, which will clearly hmpeet— labour, which will clearly hmpeet eht— labour, which will clearly impact and cost lives. i'm not eethethet— impact and cost lives. i'm not satisfied with— impact and cost lives. i'm not satisfied with instructing teeehere— satisfied with instructing teachers to _ satisfied with instructing teachers to down tools in the classroom, even— teachers to down tools in the classroom, even though kids have mheeet— classroom, even though kids have missed thousands— classroom, even though kids have missed thousands of hours of teemhhg— missed thousands of hours of learning during— missed thousands of hours of learning during the pandemic and not learning during the pandemic and net eethethet— learning during the pandemic and not satisfied with— learning during the pandemic and not satisfied with instructing rail workers— not satisfied with instructing rail workers to— not satisfied with instructing rail workers to go on strike teet— rail workers to go on strike last christmas. _ rail workers to go on strike last christmas. impacting peepte-e— last christmas. impacting people's ability to get home and see people's ability to get home and thet— people's ability to get home and see their families. _ people's ability to get home and see their families. the union hereee— see their families. the union barons are at— see their families. the union barons are at it— see their families. the union barons are at it again. demonstrate- barons are at it again. demonstrate saying that they've got demonstrate saying that they've get hrhtehh — demonstrate saying that they've got britain hanging by the short and got britain hanging by the short eht ewrthee— got britain hanging by the short and curlies as— got britain hanging by the short and curlies as aslef and the rmt unions are calling— and curlies as aslef and the rmt unions are calling for strikes on unions are calling for strikes we the— unions are calling for strikes we the they— unions are calling for strikes we the tey et— unions are calling for strikes on the day of eurovision and the fa on the day of eurovision and the ta ewp— on the day of eurovision and the ta cwp thet — on the day of eurovision and the fa cup final. now— on the day of eurovision and the fa cup final. now eurovision is

a fa cup final. now eurovision is e epeehet— fa cup final. now eurovision is a special privilege this year. hte— a special privilege this year. ht-e very— a special privilege this year. rt-e very rere— a special privilege this year. it's very rare we— a special privilege this year. it's very rare we get to host it. it's very rare we get to host ht. hevhhg— it's very rare we get to host it. having come— it's very rare we get to host it. having come second to whethe— it. having come second to threhhe et— it. having come second to ukraine at last— it. having come second to ukraine at last year's event the— ukraine at last year's event thhe he— ukraine at last year's event thhe he e— ukraine at last year's event this is a fantastic opportunity to celebrate— this is a fantastic opportunity to celebrate this— this is a fantastic opportunity to celebrate this country and put— to celebrate this country and pwt eh— to celebrate this country and pwt eh e— to celebrate this country and pwt eh e greet— to celebrate this country and put on a great show, but it will be put on a great show, but it will he therwptet— put on a great show, but it will he therwptet hy— put on a great show, but it will be disrupted by a— put on a great show, but it will be disrupted by a cabal of peththeetty— be disrupted by a cabal of politically motivated campaigners who couldn't give two campaigners who couldn't give twe thge— campaigners who couldn't give two figs about— campaigners who couldn't give two figs about the reputation of this two figs about the reputation of thhe eewhtry— two figs about the reputation of this country and— two figs about the reputation of this country and the fa cup thet— this country and the fa cup thet ehe— this country and the fa cup final. one of— this country and the fa cup final. one of the- this country and the fa cup final. one of the great sporting occasions in the— final. one of the great sporting occasions in the calendar, a gtehet— occasions in the calendar, a gtehet event— occasions in the calendar, a global event and a massive day for global event and a massive day her the— global event and a massive day her the here— global event and a massive day for the hard working fans of manchester— for the hard working fans of manchester united and manchester city manchester united and manchester chty whe— manchester united and manchester chty whe eh— manchester united and manchester chty whe ew— manchester united and manchester city who can now only hope to get— city who can now only hope to get tewh— city who can now only hope to get tewh te— city who can now only hope to get down to wembley by bus or by teet— get down to wembley by bus or by teet. hy— get down to wembley by bus or by teet. hy hheyete— get down to wembley by bus or by teet. hy hheyete .— get down to wembley by bus or by foot, by bicycle , or— get down to wembley by bus or by foot, by bicycle , or maybe by foot, by bicycle, or maybe by carrier pigeon.— foot, by bicycle, or maybe by carrier pigeon. that's assuming the phgeehe— carrier pigeon. that's assuming the pigeons aren't— carrier pigeon. that's assuming the pigeons aren't on strike as wett— the pigeons aren't on strike as wet .— the pigeons aren't on strike as wet. thve— the pigeons aren't on strike as well . i've always— the pigeons aren't on strike as well . i've always said that many well. i've always said that many of well. i've always said that many et theee— well. i've always said that many of these professional groups teeerve— of these professional groups teeerve e— of these professional groups deserve a bump— of these professional groups deserve a bump and have suffered real deserve a bump and have suffered reet thme— deserve a bump and have suffered reet thme pey— deserve a bump and have suffered real time pay cuts— deserve a bump and have suffered real time pay cuts over many yeere— real time pay cuts over many yeere ee— real time pay cuts over many yeere ee hwt— real time pay cuts over many years as but their— real time pay cuts over many years as but their unions ewtregeewe— years as but their unions outrageous demands threaten to hete— outrageous demands threaten to bake inflation— outrageous demands threaten to bake inflation into the system for bake inflation into the system ter meey— bake inflation into the system ter mehy yeere— bake inflation into the system for many years to— bake inflation into the system for many years to come and twrther— for many years to come and twrther ett—

for many years to come and further add to— for many years to come and further add to our eye—watering hethehet— further add to our eye—watering national debt. _ further add to our eye—watering national debt. so— further add to our eye—watering national debt. so the economic ter— national debt. so the economic case for these— national debt. so the economic case for these strikes is non—existent- case for these strikes is non—existent and across the peere— non—existent and across the heert .— non—existent and across the heert . the— non—existent and across the board , the moral- non—existent and across the board , the moral case for the board, the moral case for the etrhtee— board, the moral case for the etrhtee he— board, the moral case for the strikes is nowhere to be found ehther— strikes is nowhere to be found ehther .— strikes is nowhere to be found ehther . e..— strikes is nowhere to be found either . or, given— strikes is nowhere to be found either . or, given the disruption either. or, given the disruption they-ve— either. or, given the disruption they've caused— either. or, given the disruption they've caused millions of brits etreety— they've caused millions of brits etreety pwheh— they've caused millions of brits already punch drunk from a three yeer— already punch drunk from a three yeer pehtemhe— already punch drunk from a three year pandemic and— already punch drunk from a three year pandemic and a cost of thvhhg— year pandemic and a cost of thvhhg ehete— year pandemic and a cost of living crisis, people can't get treetmeht— living crisis, people can't get treatment on _ living crisis, people can't get treatment on the— living crisis, people can't get treatment on the nhs . operations treatment on the nhs. operations and appointments— treatment on the nhs. operations and appointments have been eemethet— and appointments have been cancelled. people can't get on a trehh— cancelled. people can't get on a the eht— cancelled. people can't get on a train and travel— cancelled. people can't get on a train and travel to— cancelled. people can't get on a train and travel to work or get erewht— train and travel to work or get erewht the— train and travel to work or get around the country. and now the teyewe— around the country. and now the joyous occasions— around the country. and now the joyous occasions of— around the country. and now the joyous occasions of eurovision eht— joyous occasions of eurovision eht the— joyous occasions of eurovision eht the ta— joyous occasions of eurovision eht the ta ewp— joyous occasions of eurovision and the fa cup final will be teteh— and the fa cup final will be teteh trem — and the fa cup final will be taken from them as well. the unions are proving you've got to be unions are proving you've got to he erwet— unions are proving you've got to he erwet te— unions are proving you've got to he erwet te he— unions are proving you've got to be cruel to be unkind . these be cruel to be unkind. these weh-t— be cruel to be unkind. these unions won't stop until they've eeheettet— unions won't stop until they've cancelled everything good about hrhtheh— cancelled everything good about hrhtheh hhte— cancelled everything good about british life, which _ cancelled everything good about british life, which is why, in my— british life, which is why, in my vhew— british life, which is why, in my view rishi _ british life, which is why, in my view rishi sunak must cancel them — my view rishi sunak must cancel them .— my view rishi sunak must cancel them . wett— my view rishi sunak must cancel them . matt hancock, a politician them. matt hancock, a politician whth— them. matt hancock, a politician whth me— them. matt hancock, a politician with more baggage than kim yerteehheh— with more baggage than kim kardashian ashton on holiday, is ewpperthhg— kardashian ashton on holiday, is ewpperthhg ew— kardashian ashton on holiday, is supporting new legislation to teeth— supporting new legislation to tackle so—called_ supporting new legislation to tackle so—called misinformation. hweve—

tackle so—called misinformation. hweve ghveh— tackle so—called misinformation. however given recent history, whet— however given recent history, whet he— however given recent history, what is classified as misinformation often should, in my vhew— misinformation often should, in my he— misinformation often should, in my view, be taken— misinformation often should, in my view, be taken with a pinch of my view, be taken with a pinch et eethwm — my view, be taken with a pinch of sodium that— my view, be taken with a pinch of sodium that could fill a eeht— of sodium that could fill a eett. athe— of sodium that could fill a salt. mine wasn't it misinformation that the covid salt. mine wasn't it— misinformation that the covid 19 vaccine was never— misinformation that the covid 19 vaccine was never tested for , vaccine was never tested for, teetet— vaccine was never tested for, teetet ter— vaccine was never tested for, tested for transmission? in ether— tested for transmission? in etherweret— tested for transmission? in other words, that it would stop peepte— other words, that it would stop peepte peeehhg— other words, that it would stop peepte peeehhg ht— other words, that it would stop people passing it on, which, eeh-t— people passing it on, which, teh-t terget— people passing it on, which, don't forget, was the main eetthhg— don't forget, was the main eetthhg pehht— don't forget, was the main selling point plot spoiler. it thth-t— selling point plot spoiler. it thth-t etep— selling point plot spoiler. it didn't stop transmission . was it didn't stop transmission. was it misinformation— didn't stop transmission. was it misinformation that decades of research was inconclusive about the ettheeey— research was inconclusive about the ettheeey et— research was inconclusive about the efficacy of masks in etepphhg— the efficacy of masks in stopping a_ the efficacy of masks in stopping a respiratory virus ? stopping a respiratory virus? wee— stopping a respiratory virus? wee ht— stopping a respiratory virus? was it misinformation to say the prhhthhg— was it misinformation to say the prhhthhg et— was it misinformation to say the printing of billions of pounds wewtt— printing of billions of pounds wewtt ephte— printing of billions of pounds would spike inflation, which thhet— would spike inflation, which thhet ee— would spike inflation, which thick as economists with letters etter— thick as economists with letters etter thehr— thick as economists with letters after their names— thick as economists with letters after their names told me on my old after their names told me on my ett rethe— after their names told me on my old radio show— after their names told me on my old radio show three years ago eeet— old radio show three years ago was cost neutral— old radio show three years ago was cost neutral while is it misinformation— was cost neutral while is it misinformation to say lockdowns were an experiment, the brainchild— were an experiment, the brainchild of— were an experiment, the brainchild of the chinese communist— brainchild of the chinese communist party, deep, htthheret— communist party, deep, illiberal, deeply on western and wewtt— illiberal, deeply on western and wewtt eee— illiberal, deeply on western and would see not— illiberal, deeply on western and would see not just— illiberal, deeply on western and would see not just economic temege— would see not just economic damage lasting— would see not just economic damage lasting decades , but an damage lasting decades, but an evpteeheh— damage lasting decades, but an expteeheh hh— damage lasting decades, but an

explosion in domestic abuse, ehtt— explosion in domestic abuse, ehhtt ehwee— explosion in domestic abuse, child abuse ,— explosion in domestic abuse, child abuse , a— explosion in domestic abuse, child abuse , a tsunami of mental child abuse, a tsunami of mental heetth— child abuse, a tsunami of mental heetth heewee— child abuse, a tsunami of mental health issues and— child abuse, a tsunami of mental health issues and more obesity. as health issues and more obesity. ae e— health issues and more obesity. ae e reewtt— health issues and more obesity. ae e reewtt et— health issues and more obesity. as a result of being sat at home eethhg— as a result of being sat at home eethhg erep— as a result of being sat at home eethhg erep eht— as a result of being sat at home eating crap and staring at wettthv— eating crap and staring at netflix for— eating crap and staring at netflix for comfort . but was it netflix for comfort. but was it misinformation— netflix for comfort. but was it misinformation that no data ewppertet— misinformation that no data supported school closures or meethhg— supported school closures or meethhg hhte— supported school closures or masking kids as— supported school closures or masking kids as young as 11 all day masking kids as young as 11 all tey tehg— masking kids as young as 11 all tey tehg hh— masking kids as young as 11 all tey tehg he the— masking kids as young as 11 all day long in the classroom ? day long in the classroom? wheteapp— day long in the classroom? whatsapp messages from matt heheeet— whatsapp messages from matt heheeet eht— whatsapp messages from matt hancock and boris johnson eemhrm— hancock and boris johnson confirm masking in school was ehmpty— confirm masking in school was ehmpty the— confirm masking in school was simply the result— confirm masking in school was simply the result of a willy wevhhg— simply the result of a willy waving competition with that phet— waving competition with that phht ehzet — waving competition with that pint sized dictator up north. whete— pint sized dictator up north. nicola sturgeon— pint sized dictator up north. nicola sturgeon was it misinformation to say the school closures would _ misinformation to say the school closures would devastate the thte — closures would devastate the life chances— closures would devastate the life chances of— closures would devastate the life chances of a— closures would devastate the life chances of a generation of young— life chances of a generation of young imple— life chances of a generation of young people and further expand hhegwethtye— young people and further expand hhegwethtye wee— young people and further expand inequality? was it— inequality? was it misinformation mission to say thet— misinformation mission to say thet ht— misinformation mission to say thet ht yew— misinformation mission to say that if you have— misinformation mission to say that if you have this vaccine, you— that if you have this vaccine, yew weh-t— that if you have this vaccine, yew weh-t get— that if you have this vaccine, you won't get covid? the words of you won't get covid? the words er ree— you won't get covid? the words er ree hhteh— you won't get covid? the words of joe biden in— you won't get covid? the words of joe biden in a— you won't get covid? the words of joe biden in a rare example of joe biden in a rare example et htm— of joe biden in a rare example et hhm hehhg— of joe biden in a rare example of him being able— of joe biden in a rare example of him being able to finish a eeehete— of him being able to finish a sentence? was— of him being able to finish a sentence? was it— of him being able to finish a sentence? was it misinformed mheeheh— sentence? was it misinformed te— sentence? was it misinformed mission to talk— sentence? was it misinformed mission to talk about vaccine ette— mission to talk about vaccine ehte etteete— mission to talk about vaccine side effects and— mission to talk about vaccine side effects and sad deaths , side effects and sad deaths, whheh— side effects and sad deaths, which, although _ side effects and sad deaths, which, although perhaps rare, heve— which, although perhaps rare, have come to— which, although perhaps rare, have come to pass? so do you see the prehtem— have come to pass? so do you see the problem with— have come to pass? so do you see the problem with cracking down

on the problem with cracking down we ee—eettet— the problem with cracking down on so—called misinformation? wett— on so—called misinformation? matt hancock— on so—called misinformation? matt hancock is— on so—called misinformation? matt hancock is very brave, pwtthhg— matt hancock is very brave, pwtthhg hhe— matt hancock is very brave, putting his head above the perepet— putting his head above the perepet hhte— putting his head above the parapet like this. the brass heet— parapet like this. the brass heeh eh— parapet like this. the brass neck on this— parapet like this. the brass neck on this numpty is quite eemethhhg— neck on this numpty is quite eemethhhg te— neck on this numpty is quite something to behold. what is misinformation— something to behold. what is misinformation and who decides whether— misinformation and who decides whether hte— misinformation and who decides whether it's the— misinformation and who decides whether it's the lab leak theory meethhg— whether it's the lab leak theory masking vaccines— whether it's the lab leak theory masking vaccines or lockdown? hteet — masking vaccines or lockdown? tteet wrgeptty— masking vaccines or lockdown? read urgently. the formula has tee— read urgently. the formula has tee hh— read urgently. the formula has tee hh my— read urgently. the formula has become, in my opinion , pretty become, in my opinion, pretty ehmpte— become, in my opinion, pretty simple misinformation . seven simple misinformation. seven ptwe— simple misinformation. seven ptwe ehe— simple misinformation. seven plus six months— simple misinformation. seven plus six months equals the truth - by— plus six months equals the truth . hy tet— plus six months equals the truth . hy tet ewe— plus six months equals the truth . by bad news, folks. the hugely pepwter— . by bad news, folks. the hugely pepwter eht— . by bad news, folks. the hugely popular and brilliant value heeteht— popular and brilliant value iceland super— popular and brilliant value iceland super markets are threetehhhg— iceland super markets are threatening more store closures thhe— threatening more store closures thhe yeer— threatening more store closures thhe yeer .— threatening more store closures this year , having— threatening more store closures this year , having axed several this year, having axed several ttegehhp— this year, having axed several flagship branches over the last six flagship branches over the last ehx menthe— flagship branches over the last six months. now— flagship branches over the last six months. now this is a theeeter— six months. now this is a disaster for— six months. now this is a disaster for millions of brits whe— disaster for millions of brits whe teve— disaster for millions of brits who love iceland and depend on it who love iceland and depend on ht ter— who love iceland and depend on ht ter hte— who love iceland and depend on ht ter hte hhgh— who love iceland and depend on it for its high quality, well prheet— it for its high quality, well priced produce— it for its high quality, well priced produce . a recent report priced produce. a recent report ewggeete— priced produce. a recent report ewggeete thet— priced produce. a recent report suggests that the— priced produce. a recent report suggests that the cost of living erhehe— suggests that the cost of living crisis means that— suggests that the cost of living crisis means that more people are crisis means that more people retheht— crisis means that more people retheht eh— crisis means that more people are reliant on frozen food to keep— are reliant on frozen food to keep the— are reliant on frozen food to keep the family— are reliant on frozen food to keep the family fed . and where keep the family fed. and where tetter— keep the family fed. and where tetter te— keep the family fed. and where tetter te ge— keep the family fed. and where better to go than— keep the family fed. and where better to go than an iceland

heeh— better to go than an iceland treeh teh— better to go than an iceland frozen fish, frozen meat, frozen vegetettee— frozen fish, frozen meat, frozen vegetettee he— frozen fish, frozen meat, frozen vegetables is a— frozen fish, frozen meat, frozen vegetables is a much cheaper way of vegetables is a much cheaper way et tehhg— vegetables is a much cheaper way et tehhg ht— vegetables is a much cheaper way et tehhg ht .— vegetables is a much cheaper way er tehhg ht . yee— vegetables is a much cheaper way of doing it . yes, they have some of doing it. yes, they have some hewghty— of doing it. yes, they have some hewghty teete— of doing it. yes, they have some naughty treats of— of doing it. yes, they have some naughty treats of which i cannot eppreve— naughty treats of which i cannot eppreve. twt— naughty treats of which i cannot approve, but much— naughty treats of which i cannot approve, but much of what they eett— approve, but much of what they eett he— approve, but much of what they sell is healthy— approve, but much of what they sell is healthy family favourites. - sell is healthy family favourites. cheese milk, butter, eggs— favourites. cheese milk, butter, eggs -— favourites. cheese milk, butter, egge . teeny— favourites. cheese milk, butter, eggs . many shops like iceland eggs. many shops like iceland are a lifeline,— eggs. many shops like iceland are a lifeline, which is why heeteht— are a lifeline, which is why iceland management must give theee— iceland management must give these outlets— iceland management must give these outlets a— iceland management must give these outlets a lifeline too. i thew— these outlets a lifeline too. i knew thmee— these outlets a lifeline too. i know times are— these outlets a lifeline too. i know times are tough, but i can emy— know times are tough, but i can ehty hmptere— know times are tough, but i can only implore iceland bosses not to only implore iceland bosses not te pwt— only implore iceland bosses not te pwt theee— only implore iceland bosses not to put these branches in the deep— to put these branches in the deep teee — to put these branches in the deep freeze. i— to put these branches in the deep freeze. i hope this crazy htee — deep freeze. i hope this crazy htee te — deep freeze. i hope this crazy htee te ewt— deep freeze. i hope this crazy idea to cut branches thaws out eht— idea to cut branches thaws out eht they— idea to cut branches thaws out eht they eeet— idea to cut branches thaws out and they cool on— idea to cut branches thaws out and they cool on the idea . just and they cool on the idea. just as and they cool on the idea. just ee thhe— and they cool on the idea. just as this programme has campaigned for as this programme has campaigned ter teete— as this programme has campaigned ter teeee te— as this programme has campaigned for tesco to reverse _ as this programme has campaigned for tesco to reverse their crazy teeheheh — for tesco to reverse their crazy teeheheh te — for tesco to reverse their crazy decision to reduce— for tesco to reverse their crazy decision to reduce the value of ctwteert — decision to reduce the value of clubcard points,— decision to reduce the value of clubcard points, iceland can eteet— clubcard points, iceland can eteet e— clubcard points, iceland can steal a march— clubcard points, iceland can steal a march on— clubcard points, iceland can steal a march on the competition eht— steal a march on the competition eht keep— steal a march on the competition eht teep thehr— steal a march on the competition and keep their stores open for the peepte— and keep their stores open for the peepte et— and keep their stores open for the people of this country. if the— the people of this country. if thhe heeh— the people of this country. if this frozen food _ the people of this country. if this frozen food specialist eteeee— this frozen food specialist closes these _ this frozen food specialist closes these outlets, it will go trem— closes these outlets, it will go trem e— closes these outlets, it will go trem e rethhg— closes these outlets, it will go from a rating of— closes these outlets, it will go from a rating of five stars to a ehhvery— from a rating of five stars to a ehhvery mhwe— from a rating of five stars to a shivery minus ten. _ from a rating of five stars to a shivery minus ten. it's time for heeteht— shivery minus ten. it's time for heeteht te— shivery minus ten. it's time for heeteht te pwt— shivery minus ten. it's time for iceland to put the— shivery minus ten. it's time for iceland to put the store closures on— iceland to put the store

closures on ice . save our closures on ice. save our heetemt— closures on ice. save our iceland. mark— closures on ice. save our iceland. mark gbnews.uk, what do you iceland. mark gbnews.uk, what do yew thhh— iceland. mark gbnews.uk, what do yew thhht e— iceland. mark gbnews.uk, what do yew thhht t he— iceland. mark gbnews.uk, what do yew thhht t he yew— iceland. mark gbnews.uk, what do you think ? do you go to iceland? you think? do you go to iceland? they— you think? do you go to iceland? they ee— you think? do you go to iceland? they are threatening to close the— they are threatening to close the eteee — they are threatening to close the eteee h— they are threatening to close the stores. i know they're tryhhg— the stores. i know they're tryhhg te— the stores. i know they're trying to basically shore up the teheee— trying to basically shore up the business, but— trying to basically shore up the business, but so— trying to basically shore up the business, but so many people rety— business, but so many people rety eh— business, but so many people rely on supermarkets like lidl, atth— rely on supermarkets like lidl, atth eht— rely on supermarkets like lidl, aldi and iceland.— rely on supermarkets like lidl, aldi and iceland. i was in the tettehhem— aldi and iceland. i was in the tottenham hale,— aldi and iceland. i was in the tottenham hale, iceland on tweetey— tottenham hale, iceland on tweetey eht— tottenham hale, iceland on tuesday and i— tottenham hale, iceland on tuesday and i got a kilo of rump eteet— tuesday and i got a kilo of rump eteet ter— tuesday and i got a kilo of rump steak for £7.50.— tuesday and i got a kilo of rump steak for £7.50. you're welcome . i steak for £7.50. you're welcome . h teve— steak for £7.50. you're welcome . h teve the— steak for £7.50. you're welcome . i love the place,— steak for £7.50. you're welcome . i love the place, but let me thew— . i love the place, but let me thew yewr— . i love the place, but let me know your thoughts. do you use heetehte— know your thoughts. do you use iceland? would— know your thoughts. do you use iceland? would you miss it if yewr— iceland? would you miss it if yewr treheh— iceland? would you miss it if your branch went— iceland? would you miss it if your branch went reacting to my tehe— your branch went reacting to my tete et— your branch went reacting to my tete et teh— your branch went reacting to my take at ten, the— your branch went reacting to my take at ten, the leader of ukip eht— take at ten, the leader of ukip eht termer— take at ten, the leader of ukip and former tory— take at ten, the leader of ukip and former tory mp neil hemhtteh— and former tory mp neil hamilton, television personality and broadcaster— hamilton, television personality and broadcaster precious muir eht— and broadcaster precious muir eht termer— and broadcaster precious muir and former royal— and broadcaster precious muir and former royal editor at the swe— and former royal editor at the swh hewepeper.— and former royal editor at the sun newspaper, duncan larcombe . sun newspaper, duncan larcombe. wett— sun newspaper, duncan larcombe. wett preehewe— sun newspaper, duncan larcombe. well, precious save— sun newspaper, duncan larcombe. well, precious save our iceland. do well, precious save our iceland. he yew— well, precious save our iceland. he yew gee — well, precious save our iceland. he yew gee h— well, precious save our iceland. do you go? i chi?“ c do you go? i actually don't shop in iceland, i'm afraid . but i do

in iceland, i'm afraid. but i do believe that we need to have them because there are people that do and they rely on them because of the pricing. it's very, very affordable. and some families, very, very affordable. and some temhthee yew— very, very affordable. and some families, you know,— very, very affordable. and some families, you know, they- : and some families, you know, they have terge— families, you know, they have large families— families, you know, they have large families and they have a lot-children— large families and they have a lot-childrenlfeed. - large families and they have a lot children feed. ' r: lot of children to feed. and so hetero— lot of children to feed. and so heeteht he— lot of children to feed. and so heeteht he e— lot of children to feed. and so iceland is a really good idea for them to continue on, even maybe they could have it online. i mean , it doesn't have to i mean, it doesn't have to necessarily disappear from the you , the streets you know, the streets completely. i mean, you know , completely. i mean, you know, the high is closing down. the high street is closing down. there a lot shops going there is a lot of shops going out business. it's not just out of business. it's not just iceland. but then you're you know, you're not thinking they're obviously, they're not thinking, obviously, of are actually of the people that are actually relying the jobs. yeah. you relying on the jobs. yeah. you know, that are know, so the people that are working iceland relying working in iceland are relying on wages every on their their wages every month. it is sad to month. so it is it is sad to hear that iceland. yeah duncan i lost hear that iceland. yeah duncan i teet my— hear that iceland. yeah duncan i lost my poundland_ hear that iceland. yeah duncan i lost my poundland a— i: yeah duncan i lost my poundland a couple of yeere— lost my poundland a couple of yeere ege— lost my poundland a couple of yeere ege eht— lost my poundland a couple of years ago and you— lost my poundland a couple of years ago and you know, i don't thew— years ago and you know, i don't thew ht— years ago and you know, i don't thew ht tm— years ago and you know, i don't know if i'm going— years ago and you know, i don't know if i'm going to lose my heetemt— know if i'm going to lose my heeteht. twt— know if i'm going to lose my iceland, but people rely on theee— iceland, but people rely on theee ehepe. — iceland, but people rely on these shops. yeah. h/richi iceland, but people rely on these shops. yeah. / these shops. yeah. yeah, they do. and of course, it's lovely to say we should eat fresh vegetables and fruit every single day. but that, frankly, is expensive a lot

is an expensive option for a lot of people. and i think really this is a the last thing you want to hear at a time like this where people are struggling to make ends meet and you wonder what sacrifices mum has to make if she can't go to iceland . if she can't go to iceland. yes, neil, where do the hamiltons_ yes, neil, where do the hamiltons go- yes, neil, where do the hamiltons go for their groceries 7 hamiltons go for their groceries e wett— hamiltons go for their groceries a wet. eer— hamiltons go for their groceries ? well, our nearest- hamiltons go for their groceries 7 . itiihiisrc srctir'ri;sr cihii; ? well, our nearest stores are morrisons. we've got a waitrose and an aldi and i'm personally a massive hunter for the yellow stickers, which is reduced items at the end of the day, that's one way of making a pound go further. and it's also a very a very jolly game for us as well. christine makes fun of me for doing it, but she's the beneficiary of my assiduity in this department. but i've got every sympathy with you, mark, because, you know, frozen food is, for many people, a lifeline andifs is, for many people, a lifeline and it's much better value often than buying fresh items . and than buying fresh items. and personally, i see nothing wrong with frozen food at all. i can't

really tell the difference in taste personally , i'll admit taste personally, i'll admit that. and my skills in the kitchen basically rely on the microwave . but then i've got microwave. but then i've got mrs. hamilton, who's a master chef, to fill the gap for me normally, but often i'm on my own when she's on gb news and i do have to look after myself. so i do have recourse to the freezer on those occasions . can freezer on those occasions. can i just ask can i briefly- freezer on those occasions. can i just ask can i briefly ask- i just ask can i briefly ask your— i just ask can i briefly ask yew. hwreeh— i just ask can i briefly ask yew. hwheeh .— i just ask can i briefly ask you, duncan , is- i just ask can i briefly ask you, duncan , is duncan's you, duncan, is duncan's mherephehe— you, duncan, is duncan's microphone working all right? heeewe— microphone working all right? heeewe hht— microphone working all right? because i'd like— microphone working all right? because i'd like to ask duncan whet— because i'd like to ask duncan whet yew— because i'd like to ask duncan what you think— because i'd like to ask duncan what you think of— because i'd like to ask duncan what you think of my comments etewt— what you think of my comments etewt wett— what you think of my comments about matt hancock. he wants to teet— about matt hancock. he wants to teet wp— about matt hancock. he wants to teet wp ehth — about matt hancock. he wants to beef up anti misinformation laws . wew.— beef up anti misinformation laws . wew. yew-e— beef up anti misinformation laws . wew. yew-e e— beef up anti misinformation laws . wew. ye e tep— beef up anti misinformation laws . now, you're a top journalist. yeve— . now, you're a top journalist. you've benefited— . now, you're a top journalist. you've benefited from freedom of epeeeh— you've benefited from freedom of epeeeh the— you've benefited from freedom of speech, the ability— you've benefited from freedom of speech, the ability to pursue trwth— speech, the ability to pursue trwth eht— speech, the ability to pursue truth and justice on behalf of yewr— truth and justice on behalf of yewr reeeret— truth and justice on behalf of your readers at— truth and justice on behalf of your readers at the sun. and eteewhere. — your readers at the sun. and elsewhere. what— your readers at the sun. and elsewhere. what on earth is misinformation— elsewhere. what on earth is misinformation when it's at temee— misinformation when it's at home? duncan— misinformation when it's at home? duncan i— misinformation when it's at home? duncan i believe there's an home? duncan i believe there's eh whth— home? duncan i believe there's an issue with your— home? duncan i believe there's an issue with your microphone. let an issue with your microphone. tet me— an issue with your microphone. tet me eet— an issue with your microphone. let me ask precious. okay. well i let me ask precious. okay. well h thhh— let me ask precious. okay. well h thhht hte— let me ask precious. okay. well hthhht ht-e very— let me ask precious. okay. well i think it's very ironic that hehe— i think it's very ironic that hehe tetthhg— i think it's very ironic that he's telling people or even eetwetty— he's telling people or even actually behind— he's telling people or even actually behind this , actually behind this, considering the fact that he was

pwtthhg— considering the fact that he was pwtthhg ewt— considering the fact that he was putting out information, misinformation and guidelines thet— misinformation and guidelines thetwe— misinformation and guidelines thet we wee— misinformation and guidelines that we were supposed to follow. so that we were supposed to follow. se ht— that we were supposed to follow. se ht he— that we were supposed to follow. se ht he eet— that we were supposed to follow. so it is sad that— that we were supposed to follow. so it is sad that he— that we were supposed to follow. so it is sad that he would- so it is sad that he would actually be for this for the harms bill on the internet, because everybody has a right to an opinion . and so somebody who an opinion. and so somebody who does not understand or believe in the vaccine should have a choice to say, yes or no. i don't think you should force the vaccine on everybody. and so if they're voicing that concern on social media and the social media platform, then i think that's freedom of speech. okay. well, look , we're going- that's freedom of speech. okay. well, look , we're going to- : i okay. well, look , we're going to get well, look, we're going to get to well, look, we're going to get te the— well, look, we're going to get te the vhewe— well, look, we're going to get to the views of— well, look, we're going to get to the views of neil hamilton eht— to the views of neil hamilton eht hmeeh— to the views of neil hamilton and duncan larcombe about that etter— and duncan larcombe about that etter teh— and duncan larcombe about that after ten when— and duncan larcombe about that after ten when we've got the pepere—he i after ten when we've got thei pepere—he het papers as well, they'll be hot off papers as well, they'll be hot ett the— papers as well, they'll be hot err the pee— papers as well, they'll be hot off the press, some quite strong eterhee— off the press, some quite strong stories which— off the press, some quite strong stories which are— off the press, some quite strong stories which are embargoed, whheh— stories which are embargoed, whheh whth— stories which are embargoed, which will be— stories which are embargoed, which will be revealed at 1030, pretty— which will be revealed at 1030, some pretty potent stuff. all some pretty potent stuff. so all of some pretty potent stuff. so all et thet— some pretty potent stuff. so all et thet te— some pretty potent stuff. so all of that to come.— some pretty potent stuff. so all of that to come. but next up , of that to come. but next up, gehhg— of that to come. but next up, gehhg te— of that to come. but next up, we're going to talk about the ehvht— we're going to talk about the civil service— we're going to talk about the civil service .— we're going to talk about the civil service . is— we're going to talk about the civil service . is it— civil service. is it institutionally left wing? civil service. is it— institutionally left wing? we'll tetete— institutionally left wing? we'll tetete thet— institutionally left wing? we'll debate that with— institutionally left wing? we'll debate that with political thretreht. — debate that with political firebrand, the _ debate that with political firebrand, the fearless commentator godfrey bloom, next.

but commentator godfrey bloom, next. hwt .—

national. he wanted he was gweethhg— national. he wanted he was gweethhg eh— national. he wanted he was gweethhg eh .— national. he wanted he was gweethhg eh . a— national. he wanted he was guesting on . a are you guesting on. a are you peththeetty— guesting on. a are you politically homeless? ' irg politically homeless? a big reeetheh— politically homeless? a big reaction on— politically homeless? a big reaction on email. john says mark, there isn't a party with a realistic chance of forming a government which represents my political views or those of most people i know. as someone who was an active member of and campaigner for the tories over four decades, that's a grave disappoint moment. and it's bad for democracy . if only reform. for democracy. if only reform. uk had a charismatic leader and an organisation on the ground. bridget says i am politically homeless , not having voted since homeless, not having voted since 1961, and the granddaughter of a member of the suffragette movement . member of the suffragette movement. but i would have member of the suffragette movement . but i would have voted movement. but i would have voted reform. but the candidate for my constituency was a lib . she's a constituency was a lib. she's a joiner and a lever, of all things . joiner and a lever, of all things. sorry, i haven't joiner and a lever, of all things . sorry, i haven't fully things. sorry, i haven't fully understood your email there, but

thank you for it. bridget yes, i am politically homeless, says glenda, and it worries me. i could never vote labour or lib dem. i hope the reform party stands in my constituency , but stands in my constituency, but if don't, i'll have to if they don't, i'll have to spoil do nothing spoil my paper. to do nothing would suggest apathy and i am not apathy . btec john last but not apathy. btec john last but not apathy. btec john last but not least on this, yes, i am politically homeless. my vote has been disrespected. immigration is out of control and when labour gets in and they open up safe routes and let millions more in this country, it's pointless voting ukip and reform they couldn't reform because they couldn't even get an mp when they had 4 million votes. look this is all wrong, says john. he's not happy. we'll return to that conversation but conversation shortly. but it's time now for the newsmaker in which tackle a major news which we tackle a major news story of the day in the company of a fearless commentator and tonight, with rumours of bullying and other issues around health secretary stephen barclay, which arrived at the offices of the guardian news papen offices of the guardian news paper, presumably from disgruntled civil servants. does this leak suggest that our civil

service has become politicised and our public servants whose job it is to be neutral now working against the will of the british people? well we put that out to a poll. we'll bring you the results of that in a moment. but to debate this i'm but to debate this issue, i'm delighted mep delighted to welcome former mep godfrey bloom . godfrey, welcome godfrey bloom. godfrey, welcome back show. welcome. godfrey bloom. godfrey, welcome back show . welcome. thank back to the show. welcome. thank you back to the show. welcome. thank yewlmweh— back to the show. welcome. thank yewlmweh . — back to the show. welcome. thank yewlmweh. whee— back to the show. welcome. thank you-much. nice to— back to the show. welcome. thank you much . nice to have you you so much. nice to have you back. what do you think is our is our civil service institutional left wing ? i think institutional left wing? i think that's possibly an— that's possibly an oversimplification. that's possibly an- oversimplification. you've that's possibly an— oversimplification. you've got to understand that the civil service actually the people who run the civil service decide studied at university, not to go into the wealth creating sector , but probably the waters for them. they didn't like the idea of that. so they've gone into what is national administration. so you have a genre, if you like , erg of people who are very much more interested in procedure than the mission statement. so when politicians get eteetet— statement. so when politicians get elected and—

statement. so when politicians get elected and they- so when politicians get elected and they say they went— get elected and they say they went te — get elected and they say they went te te — get elected and they say they want to be able— get elected and they say they want to be able to send bad guys teet— want to be able to send bad guys teet te— want to be able to send bad guys teet te the— want to be able to send bad guys back to the country— want to be able to send bad guys back to the country if they're ttegeh— back to the country if they're illegal immigrants and so on, eht— illegal immigrants and so on, eht ee— illegal immigrants and so on, eht ee tehh— illegal immigrants and so on, and so forth, all— illegal immigrants and so on, and so forth, all these things are and so forth, all these things pwehet— and so forth, all these things are pushed back— and so forth, all these things are pushed back against by civil eervehte— are pushed back against by civil servants because— are pushed back against by civil servants because they are woke by servants because they are woke ty tethhhtheh— servants because they are woke by definition, you— servants because they are woke by definition, you know, they've gene— by definition, you know, they've gehe threwgh— by definition, you know, they've gone through university, they've got gone through university, they've get te — gone through university, they've get te where — gone through university, they've got to where they— gone through university, they've got to where they are and rather then— got to where they are and rather then tehhg— got to where they are and rather than being left— got to where they are and rather than being left or— got to where they are and rather than being left or right wing, they— than being left or right wing, they ee— than being left or right wing, they whet— than being left or right wing, they are what you might say, a etethet. — they are what you might say, a statist. they're— they are what you might say, a statist. "rig ”ti: "rig statist. they're status. they believe deeply that the country should be run by civil servants. in fact , nearly all of them in fact, nearly all of them believe the country should be run by civil servants in strasbourg and brussels . they strasbourg and brussels. they are remainers to a man and of course they are living in a bubble. they live in this little bubble. they live in this little bubble which the real people don't live in. now i've worked with them on two occasions once as in a consultancy capacity in the financial services and once from a military consultancy perspective and somebody took me aside from the private sector, the wealth creating sector, before i'd really started. and he said, what do you understand

is these people don't think like us. they don't take the same view of us. this this country is split down the middle and people think it's class. they think it's colour. it isn't. it's split between those who work in the wealth creating sector and those work in the public those who work in the public sector . and if you look at the sector. and if you look at the strikes are going you were strikes that are going you were talking you made talking about earlier, you made some points. they don't some good points. they don't want they don't think it's want 4. they don't think it's enough. and they want 5, whoever they may be striking. but i had a very small pension from the pubuc a very small pension from the public sector because i was working on attachment in that department. i won't bore you with the detail, but i just got on that pension, just got a 10.1% increase directly linked to cpi . so we are spending to cpi. so we are spending somewhere in the region of £900 billion a year on civil service indexing, pensions which are unaffordable in the private sector . they are so protected sector. they are so protected that they can't be sacked. there's no shareholders. there's absolutely no discipline

regarding. they're not fit for purpose of the home office. the ministry of justice, the dwp, all these people are not fit for purpose , so they can't be purpose, so they can't be actually sacked. so if you're a minister and i'm not standing up for dominic wragg or anybody else, if you're a if you are a politic person or a minister trying to kick , get them to trying to kick, get them to actually do something which they employed to do , they then scream employed to do, they then scream bullying , bullying, bullying. bullying, bullying, bullying. well, i can tell you, if you bullying you want to see i was at the bat end of a sergeant major's view when i was at sandhurst. that's bullying and it's quality bullying. i have to say it's quality bullying . but say it's quality bullying. but that's problem that we have that's the problem that we have . aren't of the . these people aren't of the real world. they're protected . real world. they're protected. there are 6 million of them . the there are 6 million of them. the last four years. and i made this point on your programme a little while ago , have increased since while ago, have increased since 2018 with more people in the civil service in addition than employed by tesco in its entirety. it's like black mould

in a damp cottage. you can't get rid of it and the civil service just grow and grow and grow. an empire. bill it's hopeless . empire. bill it's hopeless. briefly. godfrey we saw allegations— briefly. godfrey we saw allegations of bullying around hrhth — allegations of bullying around hrhth hetet— allegations of bullying around priti patel. dominic raab went now rumours about steve barclay , now rumours about steve barclay . whheh— now rumours about steve barclay . whheh heve— now rumours about steve barclay , which have appeared in the owertheh— , which have appeared in the guardian newspaper, presumably trem— guardian newspaper, presumably from disgruntled— guardian newspaper, presumably from disgruntled civil servants . se— from disgruntled civil servants . se te— from disgruntled civil servants . he he yew— from disgruntled civil servants . so do you think— from disgruntled civil servants . so do you think that that this is . so do you think that that this he peththeetty— . so do you think that that this is politically motivated and do you is politically motivated and do yew thhh— is politically motivated and do you think there— is politically motivated and do you think there is— is politically motivated and do you think there is a sense in whheh— you think there is a sense in whheh ehvht— you think there is a sense in which civil servants are working egehhet— which civil servants are working egehhet the— which civil servants are working against the will— which civil servants are working against the will of— which civil servants are working against the will of the people , against the will of the people, i.e. against the will of the people, ehy— against the will of the people, i.e. any minister— against the will of the people, i.e. any minister that wants to get— i.e. any minister that wants to get the— i.e. any minister that wants to get the teet— i.e. any minister that wants to get the best out— i.e. any minister that wants to get the best out of brexit or teette — get the best out of brexit or tackle wokeism _ get the best out of brexit or tackle wokeism or simply turn hrhtehh— tackle wokeism or simply turn hrhtehh hhte— tackle wokeism or simply turn britain into a— tackle wokeism or simply turn britain into a more competitive eewhtry— britain into a more competitive eewhtry e— britain into a more competitive eewhtry e oh— britain into a more competitive eewhtry e eh. yee— britain into a more competitive country ? oh, yes ,— britain into a more competitive country ? oh, yes , absolutely. country? oh, yes, absolutely. heewee— country? oh, yes, absolutely. because they've— country? oh, yes, absolutely. because they've never- country? oh, yes, absolutely. because they've never had any experience of the private sector. they don't understand why we voted for brexit, they don't want brexit and they've done their best to sabotage it. and of course the politicians don't really want it either. and it's very interesting that the

allegations bullying are allegations of bullying are against brexiteers the tories in my view, it's very interesting that they're being actually singled out by the civil service for these accusations. get rid of them and they won't comply with getting rid of eu directors over the last 40 years. this is certainly a civil service conspira rac whether it's left or right wing. i think that those expressions are rather passe. this this is about statism and free trade and free freedom of thought . godfrey freedom of thought. godfrey bloom always— freedom of thought. godfrey bloom always words- freedom of thought. godfrey bloom always words of- : g godfrey bloom always words of wisdom and very— bloom always words of wisdom and very ree— bloom always words of wisdom and very we the— bloom always words of wisdom and very rare on this program that we heve— very rare on this program that we heve teth— very rare on this program that we have both a— very rare on this program that we have both a cravat and a emethhg— we have both a cravat and a smoking jacket. _ we have both a cravat and a smoking jacket. i can't thank you— smoking jacket. i can't thank yew ehewgh— smoking jacket. i can't thank yew ehewgh ter— smoking jacket. i can't thank you enough for your time and for yewr— you enough for your time and for yewr eppereh— you enough for your time and for yewr epperet eht— you enough for your time and for your apparel and look forward to eetthhg— your apparel and look forward to eetehhhg wp— your apparel and look forward to catching up soon.— your apparel and look forward to catching up soon. speaking to us live catching up soon. speaking to us thve trem— catching up soon. speaking to us thve trem the— catching up soon. speaking to us live from the west— catching up soon. speaking to us live from the west riding of yertehhre— live from the west riding of yorkshire, the _ live from the west riding of yorkshire, the brilliant godfrey hteem— yorkshire, the brilliant godfrey hteem. teet— yorkshire, the brilliant godfrey bloom. look, we'll do. would you the— bloom. look, we'll do. would you the te— bloom. look, we'll do. would you the te te— bloom. look, we'll do. would you the te he the— bloom. look, we'll do. would you like to do the polls?— bloom. look, we'll do. would you like to do the polls? should we do like to do the polls? should we he the — like to do the polls? should we he the pet— like to do the polls? should we do the poll right— like to do the polls? should we do the poll right now? let's tethe— do the poll right now? let's tet-e gwhetty— do the poll right now? let's let's quickly pop it up. we've teeh— let's quickly pop it up. we'vei teen—the been asking you online, is the ehvht— been asking you online, is the ehvht eervhee—

been asking you online, is the civil service institutionally tett— civil service institutionally tettwhg— civil service institutionally left wing, 93.2% say yes. 6.8% soy— left wing, 93.2% say yes. 6.8% eey — left wing, 93.2% say yes. 6.8% eey wett— left wing, 93.2% say yes. 6.8% eey we-tt get— left wing, 93.2% say yes. 6.8% say no. we'll get to more of yewr— say no. we'll get to more of yewr vhewe— say no. we'll get to more of your views shortly. mark gb news art. — your views shortly. mark gb news art. he— your views shortly. mark gb news art. he yew— your views shortly. mark gb news art. he yew wert— your views shortly. mark gb news .uk. do you work for— your views shortly. mark gb news .uk. do you work for the civil eervheee— .uk. do you work for the civil service? would— .uk. do you work for the civil service? would you like to theegree— service? would you like to disagree with— service? would you like to disagree with godfrey? let me thew— disagree with godfrey? let me thew yewr— disagree with godfrey? let me know your thoughts. we've got the pepere— know your thoughts. we've got the pepere hewt— know your thoughts. we've got the papers next with full pundit reeetheh— the papers next with full pundit reeetheh see— the papers next with full pundit reaction. see you— the papers next with full pundit reaction. see you into

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tomorrow's papers and we start whth— tomorrow's papers and we start whth the— tomorrow's papers and we start with the telegraph and they lead whth— with the telegraph and they lead whth the — with the telegraph and they lead with the following. surgeons eperete— with the following. surgeons eperete ehty— with the following. surgeons operate only once every terthhght. — operate only once every fortnight. surgeons are carrying out scheduled— fortnight. surgeons are carrying out scheduled operations. one eey— out scheduled operations. one tey every— out scheduled operations. one one day every two weeks, to eeeerthhg— one day every two weeks, to according the _ one day every two weeks, to according the head of the preteeeheh— according the head of the profession, professor neil tterteheeh— profession, professor neil tterteheeh .— profession, professor neil mortensen , the president of the mortensen, the president of the heyet— mortensen, the president of the tteyet cettege— mortensen, the president of the royal college of— mortensen, the president of the royal college of surgeons of teghetet— royal college of surgeons of england, revealed that despite reeert— england, revealed that despite record health— england, revealed that despite record health service backlogs , record health service backlogs, pretwethvhty— record health service backlogs, productivity among surgeons had teeh— productivity among surgeons had been even lower— productivity among surgeons had been even lower as a result of etert— been even lower as a result of staff shortages— been even lower as a result of staff shortages and a lack of eperethhg— staff shortages and a lack of operating theatre space. it comes as the _ operating theatre space. it comes as the nhs braces for the meet— comes as the nhs braces for the meet etete— comes as the nhs braces for the most extreme strikes in its hhetery— most extreme strikes in its hhetery whth— most extreme strikes in its history with head of great ormeht— history with head of great ormond street— history with head of great ormond street hospital warning that ormond street hospital warning thetthe— ormond street hospital warning that the walkouts_ ormond street hospital warning that the walkouts by nurses will put that the walkouts by nurses will pwt the — that the walkouts by nurses will pwt the thvee— that the walkouts by nurses will put the lives of— that the walkouts by nurses will put the lives of sick children at put the lives of sick children et rhet. — put the lives of sick children at risk. lineker— put the lives of sick children at risk. lineker don't let mhhhetere— at risk. lineker don't let ministers pick- at risk. lineker don't let ministers pick the bbc chief oery— ministers pick the bbc chief eery hheter— ministers pick the bbc chief gary lineker waded into the row the— gary lineker waded into the row over the resignation of the ehehrmeh— over the resignation of the chairman of— over the resignation of the chairman of the bbc and demanded his chairman of the bbc and demanded the eweeeeeer— chairman of the bbc and demanded his successor is— chairman of the bbc and demanded his successor is not— chairman of the bbc and demanded his successor is not picked by the— his successor is not picked by the government— his successor is not picked by the government and also 1967 wetee. — the government and also 1967 wetee. htth— the government and also 1967 wales. hrh the— the government and also 1967 wales. hrh the prince of a

phetegreph— wales. hrh the prince of a photograph taken of the king prevhewety— photograph taken of the king previously the— photograph taken of the king previously the prince of wales at previously the prince of wales et cemtrhtge— previously the prince of wales at cambridge university in 1967, has at cambridge university in 1967, hee teeh— at cambridge university in 1967, has been released— at cambridge university in 1967, has been released for the first three — has been released for the first three trhhhty— has been released for the first time. trinity college , where the time. trinity college, where the then— time. trinity college, where the then mhhee— time. trinity college, where the then prince of— time. trinity college, where the then prince of wales studied , then prince of wales studied, eheret— then prince of wales studied, eheret the— then prince of wales studied, shared the portrait of the 18 yeer— shared the portrait of the 18 yeer ett— shared the portrait of the 18 year old ahead— shared the portrait of the 18 year old ahead of the coronation oh, year old ahead of the coronation oh hew— year old ahead of the coronation oh hew etewt— year old ahead of the coronation oh, how about this— year old ahead of the coronation oh, how about this for a headline?— oh, how about this for a headline? second term biden htety— headline? second term biden thtety te— headline? second term biden thtety te the— headline? second term biden likely to die in— headline? second term biden likely to die in office . is this likely to die in office. is this whter— likely to die in office. is this whter .— likely to die in office. is this under , according— likely to die in office. is this under , according to the view of under, according to the view of whtth — under, according to the view of whtth hetey— under, according to the view of nikki haley, who— under, according to the view of nikki haley, who is a republican preehtehthet— nikki haley, who is a republican presidential contender , the presidential contender, the thmee— presidential contender, the thmee ew— presidential contender, the times now nhs strike poses threet— times now nhs strike poses threet te— times now nhs strike poses threat to great— times now nhs strike poses threat to great ormond street as twet— threat to great ormond street as we've just mentioned, and also eeehet— we've just mentioned, and also eeehet eervheee— we've just mentioned, and also social services ordeal for mp, the— social services ordeal for mp, the tehewr— social services ordeal for mp, the labour mp— social services ordeal for mp, the labour mp stella creasy and mether— the labour mp stella creasy and mether et— the labour mp stella creasy and mether et twe — the labour mp stella creasy and mother of two was— the labour mp stella creasy and mother of two was subjected to a herrhtyhhg— mother of two was subjected to a horrifying social— mother of two was subjected to a horrifying social services investigation _ horrifying social services investigation after an online tett— investigation after an online trett mete— investigation after an online troll made a— investigation after an online troll made a vexatious, veethee— troll made a vexatious, vexatious complaint . the daily vexatious complaint. the daily hehh— vexatious complaint. the daily tteht ew— vexatious complaint. the daily tteht thes— vexatious complaint. the daily mail now m&s and victoria heethem— mail now m&s and victoria beckham back— mail now m&s and victoria beckham back our tourist tax

thght— beckham back our tourist tax thght .— beckham back our tourist tax rhght . hwt— beckham back our tourist tax fight . but this— beckham back our tourist tax fight . but this is— beckham back our tourist tax fight . but this is the beckham back our tourist tax fight. but this is the daily thet-e— fight. but this is the daily mail's campaign to scrap the tewrhet— mail's campaign to scrap the tewrhet tev— mail's campaign to scrap the tourist tax and— mail's campaign to scrap the tourist tax and boost the eey— tourist tax and boost the economy . the- tourist tax and boost the economy . the daily mirror economy. the daily mirror cerehetheh— economy. the daily mirror coronation exclusive. a new king for coronation exclusive. a new king ter ow— coronation exclusive. a new king ter owr thmee.— coronation exclusive. a new king for our times. brits— coronation exclusive. a new king for our times. brits are back. chertee— for our times. brits are back. chertee eht— for our times. brits are back. charles and his— for our times. brits are back. charles and his plans to slim tewh— charles and his plans to slim tewh the— charles and his plans to slim down the monarchy. a poll reveeet— down the monarchy. a poll reveals as the _ down the monarchy. a poll reveals as the sun exclusive epeem— reveals as the sun exclusive epeehe eteet— reveals as the sun exclusive spoons shock newcastle pub eerete— spoons shock newcastle pub eerete tett— spoons shock newcastle pub secrets left in— spoons shock newcastle pub secrets left in pablo . secret secrets left in pablo. secret hweteer— secrets left in pablo. secret nuclear sub _ secrets left in pablo. secret nuclear sub plans were found in a nuclear sub plans were found in e tehtet— nuclear sub plans were found in a toilet cubicle— nuclear sub plans were found in a toilet cubicle at— nuclear sub plans were found in a toilet cubicle at a wetherspoons pub classified the— wetherspoons pub classified thtee eh— wetherspoons pub classified files on £1.3— wetherspoons pub classified files on £13 billion hms anson het— files on £13 billion hms anson het teeh— files on £13 billion hms anson had been dropped— files on £13 billion hms anson had been dropped in the furness htehtwey— had been dropped in the furness htehtwey hh— had been dropped in the furness railway in barrow— had been dropped in the furness railway in barrow in cumbria. a eeht— railway in barrow in cumbria. a source said it— railway in barrow in cumbria. a source said it was— railway in barrow in cumbria. a source said it was lucky a hweeheh— source said it was lucky a ttweeheh epy— source said it was lucky a russian spy didn't find them . russian spy didn't find them. the— russian spy didn't find them. the guardian,— russian spy didn't find them. the guardian, now bbc chair gwhte— the guardian, now bbc chair gwhte ee— the guardian, now bbc chair gwhte ee ew— the guardian, now bbc chair quits as row over— the guardian, now bbc chair quits as row over tory sleaze grewe— quits as row over tory sleaze grewe .— quits as row over tory sleaze grewe . the— quits as row over tory sleaze grows . the iweekend revealed grows. the iweekend revealed hwthh-e— grows. the iweekend revealed hwthh-e tep— grows. the iweekend revealed putin's top mercenaries are thghthhg— putin's top mercenaries are thghthhg hh— putin's top mercenaries are fighting in sudan. the independent bbc chairman quits

rete hh— independent bbc chairman quits over role in £800,000 cash for hehe— over role in £800,000 cash for herhe heeh— over role in £800,000 cash for boris loan and— over role in £800,000 cash for boris loan and those are your trem— boris loan and those are your rent pegee— boris loan and those are your rent pegee ter— boris loan and those are your front pages for now . let's get front pages for now. let's get reeetheh— front pages for now. let's get reaction now— front pages for now. let's get reaction now from the leader of htth— reaction now from the leader of whth wett— reaction now from the leader of ukip, neil hamilton. the broadcaster— ukip, neil hamilton. the broadcaster and political commentator— broadcaster and political commentator precious muir and the tewmethet— commentator precious muir and the journalist and— commentator precious muir and the journalist and former royal ethter— the journalist and former royal ethter et— the journalist and former royal editor of the— the journalist and former royal editor of the sun— the journalist and former royal editor of the sun newspaper, no teee— editor of the sun newspaper, no teee .— editor of the sun newspaper, no teee . the— editor of the sun newspaper, no less . the brilliance duncan less. the brilliance duncan tereemte— less. the brilliance duncan tereemte .— less. the brilliance duncan larcombe . duncan, great to have larcombe. duncan, great to have you— larcombe. duncan, great to have yew teet— larcombe. duncan, great to have yew teet hh— larcombe. duncan, great to have yew teet he the— larcombe. duncan, great to have you back in the studio . can we you back in the studio. can we twet— you back in the studio. can we twet phet— you back in the studio. can we twet phet wp— you back in the studio. can we twet phet wp eh— you back in the studio. can we just pick up on that conversation? we were having eerther— conversation? we were having eerther etewt— conversation? we were having earlier about matt hancock ? that earlier about matt hancock? that retetet— earlier about matt hancock? that retetet te— earlier about matt hancock? that retetet te my— earlier about matt hancock? that related to my-at_ earlier about matt hancock? that related to my at ten, you related to my take. at ten, you ewt— related to my take. at ten, you ewt ett— related to my take. at ten, you were cut off in— related to my take. at ten, you were cut off in your prime. he's teeh— were cut off in your prime. he's teeh tehghhg— were cut off in your prime. he's teeh tehghhg eh— were cut off in your prime. he's been banging on about protecting egehhet— been banging on about protecting against misinformation with new teghetetheh— against misinformation with new teghetetheh .— against misinformation with new teghetetheh . ae— against misinformation with new legislation . as a— against misinformation with new legislation . as a journalist who legislation. as a journalist who hee— legislation. as a journalist who has benefited— legislation. as a journalist who has benefited from free speech eht— has benefited from free speech ehe-reperthhg- has benefited from free speech and reporting thing, and trenchant reporting thing, are and trenchant reporting thing, yew— and trenchant reporting thing, are you worried— and trenchant reporting thing, are you worried about the implications— are you worried about the implications of- are you worried about the implications of this sort of eeheerehhp— implications of this sort of censorship ? _ implications of this sort of censorship ? i— implications of this sort of censorship ? censorship? i think i think i'm worried about it coming from matt hancock. i don't know how serious he wants us to take him now after he's appeared on a programme like i'm a celebrity, get me out of here after the end

of his stint as politician . so of his stint as politician. so i think if it's an issue, it's not one that should necessarily be championed by matt hancock. indeed. i mean , by recent indeed. i mean, by recent etehterte— indeed. i mean, by recent standards, the— indeed. i mean, by recent standards, the formula is a ehmpte— standards, the formula is a ehmpte ehe— standards, the formula is a simple one. misinformation plus six simple one. misinformation plus ehx mehthe— simple one. misinformation plus six months equals— simple one. misinformation plus six months equals the truth . six months equals the truth. yeve— six months equals the truth. wie eeht— six months equals the truth. you've said it.— six months equals the truth. you've said it. yeah.- six months equals the truth. you've said it. yeah. i- six months equals the truth. you've said it. yeah. i mean, of course, neil, not always. there is misinformation _ course, neil, not always. there is misinformation out- ri.rirc. \rt'7;1 c there is misinformation out there and i is misinformation out there and h gweee— is misinformation out there and h gweee hte— is misinformation out there and i guess it's dangerous, but etweye— i guess it's dangerous, but we've always lived in a free mehet— we've always lived in a free mertet et— we've always lived in a free market of ideas— we've always lived in a free market of ideas and i don't thhh— market of ideas and i don't thhht thet— market of ideas and i don't think that civil— market of ideas and i don't think that civil servants , think that civil servants, sensors, tech _ think that civil servants, sensors, tech companies or peththehehe— sensors, tech companies or politicians should be deciding whet— politicians should be deciding whet he— politicians should be deciding whet he the— politicians should be deciding what is the truth— politicians should be deciding what is the truth and what is het. — what is the truth and what is not. absolutely— what is the truth and what is not. ' crng . g not. absolutely right. matthew hancock became famous or notorious for eating kangaroo's, but of course, when he was health secretary, he was talking out of his own and, you know, governments are going to lie to you. they're going to distort info nation in order to suit their own propaganda purposes. and when all the mainstream parties agree on something and there's a consensus, it's usually it turns out to be a conspiracy against the interests of the public. so it would be monstrous if we have government

control of so—called misinformation, because as you rightly say, you know, it's the old latin tag. you know, who's going to guard the guardians? quiz custodiet ipsos custodes, as jacob rees—mogg would undoubtedly put it, most definitely. matt hancock and definitely. and matt hancock and his ilk are not to be trusted with decisions of this kind. you know, professor karl popper, the distinguished philosopher of science , has said that if science, has said that if something's not open to refutation, then it's not science, it's dogma . and that's science, it's dogma. and that's what's been imposed upon us in so many ways when i was a member of the welsh parliament up until two years ago, i voted against all this covid legislation because it had no rationale justification. it needed to be a brain surgeon to understand that lots of the claims that were being made, even the time, being made, even at the time, were not supportable . while were not supportable. while there plenty of academics there were plenty of academics who different view from who took a different view from the , people like the government, people like professor gupta , who's a professor sunetra gupta, who's a professor of epidemiology at oxford university, carl henaghan centre evidence based centre for evidence based medicine, on. and so

medicine, and so on. and so forth. they've all been on gb news the years. we were all news over the years. we were all saying what saying this at the time and what hancock , erg and sunak and all hancock, erg and sunak and all the others were saying was proved to be utterly false by events. but we knew right at the start that what we were being fed was poison and was going to be worse than the disease itself. so you know, the free flow of ideas is absolutely vital to the, you know, the moral health of a country now pressures the government would argue that the mask mandates the vaccine, mandates the lockdowns saved thousands, if not hundreds of thousands of lives. that's their view. they— : c that's their view. they maintain that they— their view. they maintain that they wee— their view. they maintain that they were taking— their view. they maintain that they were taking full medical etvhee— they were taking full medical etvhee. twt— they were taking full medical advice, but what— they were taking full medical advice, but what do you think etewt— advice, but what do you think etewt thhee— advice, but what do you think about this? one— advice, but what do you think about this? one man's misinformed- about this? one man's misinformed nation is another mehhe-thmh- misinformed nation is another man's-think it's- man's truth? i think it's absolute nonsense mean, absolute nonsense. i mean, his whatsapp were exposed . whatsapp messages were exposed. so just like, how could we so it's just like, how could we even anything even think to believe anything else? he says he actually was evpeeet— else? he says he actually was evpeeet eeyhhg— else? he says he actually was exposed saying the— 7 he says he actually was exposed saying the things that he wee— exposed saying the things that he was telling— exposed saying the things that he was telling the public were wtwe — he was telling the public were wtwe se— he was telling the public were untrue. so how— he was telling the public were untrue. so how can- he was telling the public were untrue. rich" i untrue. so how can we even take him seriously? anybody of

anywhere, no matter who you vote for, labour or conservative in the middle , it doesn't matter. the middle, it doesn't matter. we all know that matt hancock is not a good person and he said these bad things and made people go into a like a ridiculous amount of time of like going through this covid process. and coming out at the end of it. and people have lost their lives, their livelihoods, business, everything. and why should we believe him now? okay. i mean, you believe him now? okay. i mean, yew thew.— believe him now? okay. i mean, yew thew. et— believe him now? okay. i mean, you know, of course— believe him now? okay. i mean, you know, of course he's- i 7 okay. i mean, you know, of course he's not here— you know, of course he's not here te— you know, of course he's not here to defend— you know, of course he's not here to defend himself, maybe eetthhg— here to defend himself, maybe eetthhg-het— here to defend himself, maybe calling not person here to defend himself, maybe. calling-not-person is calling him not a good person is a calling him not a good person is e tht— calling him not a good person is e tht etrehg. — calling him not a good person is a bit strong. and— calling him not a good person is a bit strong. and i— calling him not a good person is a bit strong. and i don't know where— a bit strong. and i don't know where the— a bit strong. and i don't know where the evidence is that he thet.— where the evidence is that he thet. hwt— where the evidence is that he thet. hwt eh— where the evidence is that he lied. but on the— where the evidence is that he lied. but on the other hand, he thth-t—ephrht- lied. but on the other hand, he didn't—spirit of- lied. but on the other hand, he didn't—spirit of the. didn't follow the spirit of the wee— didn't follow the spirit of the rwtee—hhe- didn't follow the spirit of the. rules _ his girlfriend rules by snogging his girlfriend in rules by snogging his girlfriend hh—the— rules by snogging his girlfriend in _the health- in a corridor of the health tepertmeht. — in a corridor of the health department. that wasn't department. so that wasn't greet.— department. so that wasn't greet. hwt— department. so that wasn't greet. hwt he— department. so that wasn't great. but he would argue, as i soy,— great. but he would argue, as i eey. thet— great. but he would argue, as i eey. thet hhe— great. but he would argue, as i say, that his policies, the government's— say, that his policies, the government's policies say , lead government's policies say, lead eewhtteee— government's policies say, lead countless-he's- government's policies say, lead countless he's proud countless lives. he's proud of his countless lives. he's proud of the-.— countless lives. he's proud of hhe-. hwt— countless lives. he's proud of his-. but listen,- countless lives. he's proud of his . but listen, speaking his record. but listen, speaking of his record. but listen, speaking et-eht— his record. but listen, speaking et-eht eteyhhg— his record. but listen, speaking of-and staying on- his record. but listen, speaking of and staying on the of that and staying on the heetth— of that and staying on the health service,— of that and staying on the health service, if i may, duncan tereemte— health service, if i may, duncan larcombe,-time_ health service, if i may, duncan larcombe, time front page larcombe, the time front page the— larcombe, the time front page the etrhte— larcombe, the time front page nhs strike poses— larcombe, the time front page nhs strike poses threat to great

ormeht— nhs strike poses threat to great ormond street. _ nhs strike poses threat to great ormond street. i— nhs strike poses threat to great ormond street. i think many of my vhewere— ormond street. i think many of my viewers and _ ormond street. i think many of my viewers and listeners feel thet— my viewers and listeners feel thet the — my viewers and listeners feel that the nurses— my viewers and listeners feel that the nurses deserve some the— that the nurses deserve some the et— that the nurses deserve some the er pey— that the nurses deserve some kind of pay rise,— that the nurses deserve some kind of pay rise, but this is teethhg— kind of pay rise, but this is now looking like the real world consequence of— now looking like the real world consequence of this strike. many thhh— consequence of this strike. many thhht thet— consequence of this strike. many think that whilst— consequence of this strike. many think that whilst they have a etehm— think that whilst they have a etehm te— think that whilst they have a etehm te e— think that whilst they have a etehm te e pey— think that whilst they have a claim to a pay rise, downing teete— claim to a pay rise, downing teete gehhg— claim to a pay rise, downing teete gehhg eh— claim to a pay rise, downing tools going on strike, withdrawing their labour will eeet— withdrawing their labour will eeet thvee— withdrawing their labour will cost lives and— withdrawing their labour will cost lives and in— withdrawing their labour will cost lives and in this case, ehhttreh-e— cost lives and in this case, children's lives.- cost lives and in this case, children's lives. it's a very thtthewtt— children's lives. it's a very difficult one,— children's lives. it's a very difficult one, isn't it? heewee— difficult one, isn't it? because obviously- difficult one, isn't it? because obviously that sort of headline, you know, strikes great ormond street hospital. does any hospital in this country pull on the heart strings in the way that that one does? so i suppose that's the kind of headline you'd expect when nurses are making this sort of radical move to withdraw their labour in a strike. i think it's probably arnie. unfortunately i think it's probably effectively a poster and poster campaign for how things are in the rest of the nhs facing strikes. but you know, it's a it's a really hard one with the striking nurses because you we all applaud them. we all feel that they should be

paid more. we all feel they should have better working conditions. do we all think that they should be allowed to go on strike and put young children's lives risk ? it's it doesn't lives at risk? it's it doesn't get more complicated than that. precious is this the moment where— precious is this the moment werehweeeh-- precious is this the moment where nurses, the junior where the nurses, the junior teetere— where the nurses, the junior doctors lose— where the nurses, the junior doctors lose public support ? doctors lose public support? i thmh— doctors lose public support? i thmt they— doctors lose public support? i think they might.— doctors lose public support? i think they might. i— doctors lose public support? i think they might. i think we probably see, you know, as as the public will see that, you know , we've all come out of our know, we've all come out of our houses. we clap for them, like you said. and it's just like now we're probably going to lose a little of faith their little bit of faith in their choices is because all know choices is because we all know they deserve to be paid more. we know this, but it's just like, where is this money coming from 7 where is this money coming from ? we've all got to consider that. and then striking is causing more repercussions than actually resolve the issue, i think. imean, actually resolve the issue, i think. i mean, do you object to the— think. i mean, do you object to the prhhehpte— think. i mean, do you object to the principle that— think. i mean, do you object to the principle that a— i mean, do you object to the principle that a health care werert— the principle that a health care worker can withdraw their labour teeee— worker can withdraw their labour teeee the — worker can withdraw their labour because the military and the pethee— because the military and the police cannot— because the military and the police cannot go— because the military and the police cannot go on strike? shewtt— police cannot go on strike? shewtt ht— police cannot go on strike? should it be— police cannot go on strike? should it be the same for ambulance— should it be the same for ambulance drivers , nurses and ambulance drivers, nurses and teeteree — ambulance drivers, nurses and doctors? ithink_ ambulance drivers, nurses and doctors? : doctors? i think they should not be go strike, but

be able to go on strike, but i do think they should negotiate their 100% they their wages 100% believe they deserve to be paid more. i believe they should be- believe they should be listened to believe they should be listened te too. — believe they should be listened te too. they-t— believe they should be listened to 100. they'd argue they won't be to 100. they'd argue they won't te thetehet— to 100. they'd argue they won't be listened to— to 100. they'd argue they won't be listened to unless they're tewh— be listened to unless they're down-duncan - be listened to unless they're down duncan and down tools. duncan and there's the-theee— down tools. duncan and there's the-there's the- the problem. there's the rub. tverytety— the problem. there's the rub. tverytety-heve- everybody seems to have forgotten there's independent forgotten there's an independent pay forgotten there's an independent pay mechanism here. isn't pay review mechanism here. isn't that a cop out ? well, it was that a cop out? well, it was introduced in order to prevent the political squad the kind of political squad calls that we are now seeing . calls that we are now seeing. and that's all been completely forgotten. what we're dealing with here is a monolithic, nationalised industry, and it has all the faults and flaws which we've seen in nationalised industries throughout the economy. if you don't have the price signals, which the free market is able to give to businesses in the private sector, then the decisions inevitably become political . and inevitably become political. and then the only way of resolving those difficulties is by the use of political muscle. and that's what's happening now, although i see that the gmb of today settled for 5, so that seems to me a perfectly perfectly reasonable figure. you know, we

closed down the country for two years because of covid. the price has to be paid. you know, we can't carry on giving pay increases to people that are not justified by the country's general economic position. and i'm afraid that's the reality . i'm afraid that's the reality. otherwise, the government , if it otherwise, the government, if it prints too much money, as we know, causes inflation. that's the other problem, which we're now grappling with. the bank of england's complete failure as a nationalised institution as well to do the only job that it's been given by the government, which is to keep inflation below 2, which is spectacularly failed at. and this is what happens with nationalised industries. you know, it's institutionalised failure. we have in our national health service a cheap and readily accessible service for most people, for most things. but in many other ways it falls down very badly and doesn't compare with health services in other parts of europe, for example, which are funded in a different way. what would you say different way. what would you eey te — different way. what would you eey te eweee— different way. what would you say to nurses who— different way. what would you say to nurses who are- r: ”riiri what would you say to nurses who are living out of foodbanks? _ say to nurses who are living out of foodbanks? well,- say to nurses who are living out

of foodbanks? �*vhvhh'ricc : c of foodbanks? well, i would like to know how many of them are actually living out of foodbanks. is that what we see? we see these in we see these claims in newspapers. you know, the average nurse's as average nurse's pay as i believe, odd thousand believe, is 30 odd thousand pounds a year. more than pounds a year. that's more than the average wage. you don't have to a food bank if you're to go to a food bank if you're on 30,000 a year. you in on 30,000 a year. if you live in london, obviously 30,000 a year doesn't far it does in doesn't go as far as it does in some other parts of the country. but what i can what i can say, i h— but what i can what i can say, i h het— but what i can what i can say, i h het te— but what i can what i can say, i mean, i had to visit— but what i can what i can say, i mean, i had to visit a&e not for myeett— mean, i had to visit a&e not for myeett. twt— mean, i had to visit a&e not for myeett. twt ter— mean, i had to visit a&e not for myself, but for a— mean, i had to visit a&e not for myself, but for a relative reeehtty— myself, but for a relative recently and _ myself, but for a relative recently and sitting in a&e for a recently and sitting in a&e for e eewpte— recently and sitting in a&e for e eewpte et— recently and sitting in a&e for a couple of hours— recently and sitting in a&e for a couple of hours seeing what twet— a couple of hours seeing what was just unfolding chaos between the etett. — was just unfolding chaos between the etett. h— was just unfolding chaos between the staff. in the— was just unfolding chaos between the staff. in the end, i stopped et— the staff. in the end, i stopped et the— the staff. in the end, i stopped one of the nurses— the staff. in the end, i stopped one of the nurses and i said, teet— one of the nurses and i said, heeh h— one of the nurses and i said, heeh h we— one of the nurses and i said, look, i we applauded during cowh— look, i we applauded during coyhh eht— look, i we applauded during covid and those applause there for covid and those applause there ter yew— covid and those applause there ter yew .— covid and those applause there rer yew . amt— covid and those applause there for you . and she— covid and those applause there for you . and she burst into for you. and she burst into teere— for you. and she burst into teere the— for you. and she burst into tears. the stress- for you. and she burst into tears. the stress that she was whter— tears. the stress that she was whter eht— tears. the stress that she was under and it's— tears. the stress that she was under and it's horrible. they e tev— under and it's horrible. they are a tax payer— under and it's horrible. they are a tax payer as a tax payer to are a tax payer as a tax payer te weteh— are a tax payer as a tax payer te weteh the— are a tax payer as a tax payer to watch the stress they're hevhhg— to watch the stress they're hevhhg te — to watch the stress they're having to cope— to watch the stress they're having to cope with . if striking having to cope with. if striking is having to cope with. if striking he met— having to cope with. if striking he thehr ehty— having to cope with. if striking is their only option , we don't

is their only option, we don't heeeeeerhty— is their only option, we don't necessarily agree— is their only option, we don't necessarily agree with it, but for necessarily agree with it, but her geetheee— necessarily agree with it, but for goodness sake, it cannot be. eemethhhg— for goodness sake, it cannot be. semethhhg he— for goodness sake, it cannot be. something is going badly wrong in something is going badly wrong hh the— something is going badly wrong he the the. — something is going badly wrong in the nhs. okay,— something is going badly wrong in the nhs. hcjetchg something is going badly wrong in the nhs. hcjezchg in the nhs. okay, well, look, we've got some more cracking stories from tomorrow's papers. lots of big talking points. plus my brilliant pundits will be choosing their front page heroes and back page baddies as well. who's in their good books? who's in their bad books? all of that is .

next welcome back to the show and more of tomorrow's front pages . more of tomorrow's front pages. daryl, what do you have for us now? it's the daily star. how could we forget? just when you think your life can't get any worse? mankind the final humiliation. blokes face existential crisis after half of women say that they are better at barbecues. and that is the mic drop comments of the day. let's get reaction from duncan larcombe. duncan are you the

barbecue boss? yeah, i think the— barbecue boss? yeah, i think thhe he— barbecue boss? yeah, i think thhe he eh— barbecue boss? yeah, i think this is an example- barbecue boss? yeah, i think this is an example of- i 7 yeah, i think this is an example of fake news. yee. — this is an example of fake news. yee. oh— this is an example of fake news. yee. oh hte— this is an example of fake news. yes. oh it's great.— this is an example of fake news. yes. oh it's great. i'm hoping tm— yes. oh it's great. i'm hoping the gehhg— yes. oh it's great. i'm hoping the gehhg te— yes. oh it's great. i'm hoping the gehhg te get— yes. oh it's great. i'm hoping i'm going to get the barbecue out i'm going to get the barbecue ewt ter— i'm going to get the barbecue ewt ter the— i'm going to get the barbecue out for the first— i'm going to get the barbecue out for the first time this weeteee.— out for the first time this weekend. the— out for the first time this weekend. the first time in the yeee— weekend. the first time in the yeer. hwt— weekend. the first time in the yeer. hwt hte— weekend. the first time in the year. but it's amazing how i my— year. but it's amazing how i mean, my other— year. but it's amazing how i mean, my other half, she she's theh— mean, my other half, she she's theh heppy— mean, my other half, she she's more than happy to sit back and let more than happy to sit back and tet me— more than happy to sit back and tet me te— more than happy to sit back and tet me he the.— more than happy to sit back and let me do the. i— more than happy to sit back and let me do the. i beg your pertem — let me do the. i beg your pardon? family- let me do the. i beg your pardon? cg duncan. pardon? family show. duncan. yeeh— pardon? family show. duncan. yeehaht— pardon? family show. duncan. yeeh aht twm— pardon? family show. duncan. yeah and turn the— pardon? cg duncan. yeah and turn the sausages tteeh— yeah and turn the sausages tteet. oh— yeah and turn the sausages black. oh, barbecue . oh, my god. black. oh, barbecue. oh, my god. otey. — black. oh, barbecue. oh, my god. otey. oh.— black. oh, barbecue. oh, my god. otey. oh h— black. oh, barbecue. oh, my god. they oh h eee— black. oh, barbecue. oh, my god. okay. oh, i see. so— black. oh, barbecue. oh, my god. okay. oh, i see. so so— black. oh, barbecue. oh, my god. okay. oh, i see. so so you're more attentive to the barbecue than your other half . you than your other half. you actually take the trouble to cook the food, whereas she'll let it burn. is that what you're saying? no, no. saying? no, no, no, no, no. she-e— saying? no, no, no, no, no. she-e heppy— saying? no, no, no, no, no. she's happy to_ saying? no, no, no, no, no. she's happy to let- it] no, no, no, no, no. she's happy to let me burn it. amt— she's happy to let me burn it. and then.— she's happy to let me burn it. and then. oh— she's happy to let me burn it. and then. oh, i— she's happy to let me burn it. and then. oh, i see. see? i thhh— and then. oh, i see. see? i thhht-get— and then. oh, i see. see? i thhht-get eh- and then. oh, i see. see? i think. get on with it. think. let's get on with it. cer— think. let's get on with it. cehlghve— think. let's get on with it. cehlghve yew— think. let's get on with it. cehlghve yew hy- think. let's get on with it. canlgive you my top- think. let's get on with it. can give you my top barbecue can i give you my top barbecue tip? know things like tip? you know how things like chicken on a bone sausages chicken on a bone or sausages take to cook? they normally take ages to cook? they normally burn barbecue and raw in burn on the barbecue and raw in the middle. yes. well what do the middle. yes. well what i do is pre them at home in is i pre cook them at home in the cooker. okay. so for example, i boil and example, the sausages i boil and then put on the barbecue. then i put them on the barbecue. pre—boiled. that makes sense teeee—

pre—boiled. that makes sense teeeweeeee-t- pre—boiled. that makes sense because-less time. . because it takes less time. they-re— because it takes less time. they're cooked.— because it takes less time. they're cooked. you're- because it takes less time. they're cooked. you're just browning them. yeah. and you do the same with chicken drumsticks. dab drumsticks. neil are you a dab hand barbie. well hand with the barbie. well we have division-labour- hand with the barbie. well we have division-labour in- irihir: well we have division labour in our have division of labour in our heweehett— have division of labour in our household-i've— have division of labour in our household i've had cooks and household so i've had cooks and is household so i've had cooks and he ht— household so i've had cooks and is it socialism? _ household so i've had cooks and is it socialism? h/richi household so i've had cooks and is it socialism? / �*vhvhh'ri household so i've had cooks and is it socialism? h/richi �*vhvhh'ri i is it socialism? yeah. we each play is it socialism? yeah. we each play to our strengths. you see, she and i eat. play to our strengths. you see, she-and i eat. oh,- play to our strengths. you see, she-and i eat. oh, i- play to our strengths. you see, she-and i eat. oh, i see.j she cooks and i eat. oh, i see. oh— she cooks and i eat. oh, i see. oh ee— she cooks and i eat. oh, i see. oh ee ee— she cooks and i eat. oh, i see. eh ee yew. — she cooks and i eat. oh, i see. oh so are you. are- she cooks and i eat. oh, i see. oh so are you. ' ”ti: she cooks and i eat. oh, i see. oh so are you. ”til i oh so are you. are you handy in the i am, oh so are you. are you handy in the- i am, actually.- the barbecue? i am, actually. i the— the barbecue? i am, actually. i the tehhg— the barbecue? i am, actually. i the tehhg the— i7 i am, actually. i like doing the barbecue. like i go like doing the barbecue. like i ge erewrt— like doing the barbecue. like i ge erewht te— like doing the barbecue. like i ge erewht te my— like doing the barbecue. like i go around to my parents house. wett— go around to my parents house. we-tt heve— go around to my parents house. we-tt heve e— go around to my parents house. we'll have a nice— go around to my parents house. we'll have a nice barbecue and me eht— we'll have a nice barbecue and me eht my— we'll have a nice barbecue and me eht my-ere— we'll have a nice barbecue and me and my are always me and my dad are always eempethhg— me and my dad are always competing-each- me and my dad are always competing each other. competing with each other. like, whe—eeeeehhhgl who does the best seasoning, whe-e— who does the best seasoning, whe-e tehhg— who does the best seasoning, who's doing cooking, who's who's doing the cooking, who's got who's doing the cooking, who's get—rhght- who's doing the cooking, who's get—rhght ette- who's doing the cooking, who's got—right side and got the corn, the right side and all got the corn, the right side and ett et— got the corn, the right side and ett et thet. — got the corn, the right side and all of that. what's— got the corn, the right side and all of that. what's your ttegehhp— all of that. what's your flagship protein in chicken? heeewe— because i'm a pescatarian, so i eeh-t— because i'm a pescatarian, so i tent—ret- because i'm a pescatarian, so i. teh-t—ret-he don't need actual red meat. do you— don't need actual red meat. d0 yew hhte— don't need actual red meat. d0 yew the the— don't need actual red meat. do you like the idea— don't need actual red meat. do you like the idea of— don't need actual red meat. do you like the idea of pre- you like the idea of pre cooking? think that's a cooking? i think that's a brilliant idea because otherwise it's isn't it? yeah, it it's dicey, isn't it? yeah, it is. we've bitten into a pink is. we've all bitten into a pink drumstick. oh, yeah. careful, wett— drumstick. oh, yeah. careful, wet-wett— drumstick. oh, yeah. careful, neil.-well, you- drumstick. oh, yeah. careful, neil.-well, you were- neil. yeah well, you were tetthhg— neil. yeah well, you were talking about— neil. yeah well, you were talking about your problems in the tetreem — talking about your problems in the bedroom earlier on. �*vhvhh'ri talking about your problems in the bedroom earlier on. lr�*ythii httriii the bedroom earlier on. we were prehteme— the bedroom earlier on. we were prettehe. he— the bedroom earlier on. we were problems. is the word moving swiftly on as mr dolan may be watching or listening? probably asleep by now. let's honest. asleep by now. let's be honest. let's look let's have a look at our headune let's have a look at our headline and back page

headline heroes and back page baddies. neil, who's caught your eye? your hero? my eye? well, who's your hero? my hero got to be hero this week? it's got to be the— hero this week? it's got to be the hete— hero this week? it's got to be the late, great— hero this week? it's got to be the late, great barry humphries .-whe— the late, great barry humphries ,-who transformed- the late, great barry humphries , who transformed comedy , a man who transformed comedy werttwhte. — , a man who transformed comedy werttwhte. h— , a man who transformed comedy worldwide. i think— , a man who transformed comedy worldwide. i think .— , a man who transformed comedy worldwide. i think . and it's worldwide. i think. and it's very— worldwide. i think. and it's very eet.— worldwide. i think. and it's very eet. he— worldwide. i think. and it's very sad. he was 89, which is a geee— very sad. he was 89, which is a geee thhhge— very sad. he was 89, which is a geee hmhhge .— very sad. he was 89, which is a good innings , but— very sad. he was 89, which is a good innings , but it's very sad good innings, but it's very sad to good innings, but it's very sad te eee— good innings, but it's very sad te hhm — good innings, but it's very sad te hhm ge— good innings, but it's very sad to see him go. and actually he e tht— to see him go. and actually he e tht. — to see him go. and actually he e it so— to see him go. and actually he was a fit. 89 g to see him go. and actually he was a fit . 89 ircchii g was a fit. 89 planning another toun was a fit. 89 planning another tour. yes indeed. absolutely. so he wee— tour. yes indeed. absolutely. so he twet— tour. yes indeed. absolutely. so he twet geee— tour. yes indeed. absolutely. so he was just goes to— h/risr :: absolutely. so he was just goes to show . h/risr :: absolutely. so he was just goes to show that you— he was just goes to show that yew get— he was just goes to show that yew get the — he was just goes to show that you get the rabbit punch when yew-e— you get the rabbit punch when ye teeet— you get the rabbit punch when you're least expecting well he whtwety— you're least expecting well he was unlucky in— you're least expecting well he was unlucky in that he fell at heme— was unlucky in that he fell at heme-heppehe- was unlucky in that he fell at home-happens to- was unlucky in that he fell at home happens to lots of home which happens to lots of etter— home which happens to lots of etter peepte. — home which happens to lots of older people. and— home which happens to lots of older people. ' r: home which happens to lots of older people. 'r: home which happens to lots of older people. r: older people. and i think what happened because of happened is he needed because of the fall, he needed a new hip and complications with and it was complications with the oh, dear. the hip replacement. oh, dear. well, it's always a great mhetete— well, it's always a great mistake to _ well, it's always a great mistake to fall when you're ete— mistake to fall when you're eehet-yeeh- mistake to fall when you're sober, yeah that's sober, isn't it? yeah that's eveetty— sober, isn't it? yeah that's eveetty-h— sober, isn't it? yeah that's exactly-i think- sober, isn't it? yeah that's- exactly-i think-was exactly right. i think that was pretetty— exactly right. i think that was probably _you'rel probably his mistake. you're mweh—whehl probably his mistake. you're. much _when you've probably his mistake. you're- much _when you've had much more supple when you've had a much more supple when you've had e-twe. — much more supple when you've had e-twe. yeeh.— much more supple when you've had a-two. yeah, exactly.- much more supple when you've had a-two. yeah, exactly. - a drink or two. yeah, exactly. se.— a drink or two. yeah, exactly. se.-h— a drink or two. yeah, exactly. se.-h thhh— a drink or two. yeah, exactly. so..| think it's— a drink or two. yeah, exactly. so..| think it's very- a drink or two. yeah, exactly. so..| think it's very sad- a drink or two. h/richi rixchriccg so. i think it's very sad to so. so i think it's very sad to eee-ge— so. so i think it's very sad to eee-ge enywey- so. so i think it's very sad to see go anyway. and you know, see him go anyway. and you know, he wee— see him go anyway. and you know, he the— see him go anyway. and you know, he was the first— see him go anyway. and you know, he was the first person to bring the tem— he was the first person to bring the trans issue— he was the first person to bring the trans issue to— he was the first person to bring the trans issue to the fore , the trans issue to the fore, wept— the trans issue to the fore, weht he. — the trans issue to the fore, wasn't he, creating dame edna tveregee— wasn't he, creating dame edna everage? definitely. and called,

eethee— everage? definitely. and called, called transitioning self bodily mwthtetheh— called transitioning self bodily mutilation in— called transitioning self bodily mutilation in case anyone woke weete— mutilation in case anyone woke wehte te— mutilation in case anyone woke wehte te wee— mutilation in case anyone woke wants to use her— mutilation in case anyone woke wants to use her as an example, preee— wants to use her as an example, preee atmos— wants to use her as an example, preee awtws yew— wants to use her as an example, press aukus you had your heetthhe— press aukus you had your headline hero,— press aukus you had your headline hero, meghan markle i thhh— headline hero, meghan markle i thhht ehe-e— headline hero, meghan markle i think she's done,— headline hero, meghan markle i think she's done, yes ,100. think she's done, yes, 100. i thmh— think she's done, yes, 100. i thmt yere— think she's done, yes, 100. i think you're right— think she's done, yes, 100. i think you're right .- think she's done, yes, 100. i think you're right. meghan markle has done such a great made a great decision as in not attending the coronation. i feel like she's done a great job in thinking outside the box and not as have you putting herself. no, she's not putting herself in that position, and i'm really proud of her. like she's staying at home. she's going to have a birthday party for archie, and harry's going face his family harry's going to face his family and it, you know, you and do it, you know, for, you know, for the both of them. well, your nomination proves know, for the both of them. welerogramimination proves know, for the both of them. welerogram iminatabout)ves this program is all about opinions. duncan, who's opinions. yeah. duncan, who's yewr— opinions. yeah. duncan, who's yewr yewr— opinions. yeah. duncan, who's your your headline _ i yeah. duncan, who's your your headline hero? �*vhvhh'ricc your your headline hero? well, my your your headline hero? well, hey—etee- your your headline hero? well, hey—etee myl your your headline hero? well,- hy—etee my teet my headline hero is also my back page villain. oh, it is ? yeah. page villain. oh, it is? yeah. i'm talking about a skin headed, hooded thief who grabs a handbag and bold daylight and stole it in front of all sorts of people.

but then my hero, because it was in fact , one year old daniel in fact, one year old daniel williams , whilst kate , the williams, whilst kate, the princess of wales, was visiting wales this morning and gave us the laugh of the week on the royal beat with him literally grabbing it out of her hand. so it was great, great moment. just a lovely nomination. i love both of those nominations— a lovely nomination. i love both of those nominations for- i i love both of those nominations for exactly thttereht— of those nominations for exactly different reasons.— of those nominations for exactly different reasons. your different reasons. neil, your teet— different reasons. neil, your back-baddie- different reasons. neil, your back-baddie ,- different reasons. neil, your back-baddie , is- different reasons. neil, your back baddie , is it back back page baddie, is it back page— back page baddie, is it back pege tetthee — back page baddie, is it back page baddie? / somebody page baddie? yeah. somebody thet-e— page baddie? yeah. somebody thet-e hh— page baddie? yeah. somebody thet-e hh yewr— page baddie? yeah. somebody that's in your bad— page baddie? / somebody that's in your bad books who eeh-t— that's in your bad books who teh-t yew— that's in your bad books who don't you like _ that's in your bad books who don't you like today? well, i mean, you could— don't you like today? well, i mean, you could think of a lot of mean, you could think of a lot er peepte— mean, you could think of a lot of people couldn't. oh, rishi sweet— of people couldn't. oh, rishi sunak probably. �*vhvhh'ricc sunak probably. well, i think we could probably think, oh, i think it's a tory party kwarteng we have the tory we certainly could have the tory party because, you know, they've completely squandered the last 13 and they're doing 13 years and now they're doing what the labour party would like to has been able to do, but has never been able to do, but has never been able to in the past. there you go. to do in the past. there you go. nice burdens. and for nice tax burdens. and for example, can't argue you, example, i can't argue with you, precious. only a couple of seconds. your back page baddie, i seconds. your back page baddie, h thhht. — seconds. your back page baddie, i think. _markle- seconds. your back page baddie, i think. _markle n0,- seconds. your back page baddie,- i think. _markle n0, don't i think. meghan markle no, don't say that. diane abbott actually, she disappointed me. felt that she disappointed me. i felt that

she, out and the she, she came out and said the wrong thing. personal preferences on something so sensitive and considering that she has a very large community of jewish people in her borough, hackney , it's kind of hackney, it's kind of disappointing that she's ever said something like that. i think that's a very, very fair eet— think that's a very, very fair eet et— think that's a very, very fair set of comments. my thanks to my emezhhg— set of comments. my thanks to my emezhhg pwhthte— set of comments. my thanks to my amazing pundits tonight. really eer-eyet— amazing pundits tonight. really ehteyet the— amazing pundits tonight. really enjoyed the company of neil hemhtteh— enjoyed the company of neil hamilton, precious muir and tween— hamilton, precious muir and duncan larcombe . oh, duncan's duncan larcombe. oh, duncan's eeverhhg— duncan larcombe. oh, duncan's eeverhhg the — duncan larcombe. oh, duncan's covering the coronation an i thhh— covering the coronation an i thhht tm— covering the coronation an i think i'm allowed to say for fox wewe. — think i'm allowed to say for fox wewe. se— think i'm allowed to say for fox news. so there— think i'm allowed to say for fox news. so there you— think i'm allowed to say for fox news. so there you go. next week.— news. so there you go. next weeh. wett— news. so there you go. next week. well, we've got it covered here— week. well, we've got it covered here eh— week. well, we've got it covered here en et— week. well, we've got it covered here on gb news.— week. well, we've got it covered here on gb news. and i'm back temerrew et— here on gb news. and i'm back tomorrow at nine. _ here on gb news. and i'm back tomorrow at nine. for tomorrow at nine. thanks for yewr— tomorrow at nine. thanks for yewr eempehy— tomorrow at nine. thanks for your company headliners is next. hette— your company headliners is next. hette egehh— your company headliners is next. hette egehh. — your company headliners is next. hello again . i hello again. welcome to the latest gb news weather forecast from the met office. a warmer weekend for many of us. sunny spells, but also some heavy showers developing each day. those showers will be hit and miss and affect different parts of the uk on different days. but we've got low pressure moving away for the time being. that's left a legacy of cloudy skies for friday and into friday

evening. the cloud tends to thicken. if anything, it will lower. it'll cover the hills in places and there'll be some mist around western coasts as well, and some outbreaks of rain affecting grampians and the affecting the grampians and the highlands snow of the highlands with snow of the hills. going to stay cold hills. it's going to stay cold in the far north of scotland, but milder to but elsewhere a milder night to come got the come and whether you've got the clear or the cloud, it's clear skies or the cloud, it's going around 8 to 10 going to be around 8 to 10 celsius. first thing, then on saturday morning a fairly dreary start to the day actually. a lot of low cloud, some mistiness around western coasts, but inland , as temperatures rise, inland, as temperatures rise, the cloud will lift , it will the cloud will lift, it will brighten up. there'll be some sunshine coming through, however, as temperatures rise , however, as temperatures rise, especially for northern ireland, parts of wales, the west midlands, there could be some slow showers, some slow moving showers, some thunderstorms so thunderstorms and some hail. so watch out for those during saturday afternoon away from those areas. actually, scotland and northern england stay cold and northern england stay cold and generally grey, but mostly dry . and towards the south—east dry. and towards the south—east we'll see some warm sunshine. but into saturday night, most places turn cloudy once again.

and as the cloud thickens up from the west , and as the cloud thickens up from the west, bringing with it mist and murk , we'll also see mist and murk, we'll also see outbreaks of rain on and off. rain, yes, but nevertheless, a fairly wet start to sunday across western parts of the uk, especially western scotland, where it's going to be persistent first thing. and as that rain moves north eastwards , it's going to stay damp across the north of scotland through much of the afternoon. elsewhere, the rain breaking up into showers and there'll be some moving downpours once some slow moving downpours once again, northern and again, especially northern and western wales western england, wales and northern monday's northern ireland. monday's showers affect the showers mainly affect the southeast . it's going to be warm southeast. it's going to be warm again .

i'm ray addison. headline is coming . i'm ray addison. headline is eemhhg rhght— - i'm ray addison. headline is eemhhg rhght wp— . i'm ray addison. headline is coming right up but— i'm ray addison. headline is coming right up but first here a news headlines.— coming right up but first here a news headlines. our top story tehhght— news headlines. our top story tehhght. the— news headlines. our top story tonight, the deputy prime tthhheter— tonight, the deputy prime minister says— tonight, the deputy prime minister says the evacuation of hrhtheh— minister says the evacuation of british nationals— minister says the evacuation of british nationals from sudan whth— british nationals from sudan whtt eht— british nationals from sudan whtt eht eh— british nationals from sudan will end on saturday. oliver hewteh— will end on saturday. oliver hewteh eeye— will end on saturday. oliver dowden says the decision was mete— dowden says the decision was mete etter— dowden says the decision was mete etter e— dowden says the decision was made after a decrease in the mte— made after a decrease in the mte et— made after a decrease in the number of requests for help so far. number of requests for help so her. hrhtheh— number of requests for help so far. british forces— number of requests for help so far. british forces have rescued theh— far. british forces have rescued more than 1500— far. british forces have rescued more than 1500 people. what we heve— more than 1500 people. what we have seen over— more than 1500 people. what we have seen over the— more than 1500 people. what we have seen over the past 24 hours or so is a significant— have seen over the past 24 hours or so is a significant decline in or so is a significant decline he the— or so is a significant decline in the british— or so is a significant decline in the british nationals coming temere— in the british nationals coming terwert . — in the british nationals coming terwert . wew.— in the british nationals coming forward . \rrirhri forward. now, that's what you would expect. it's what's happened with other countries . happened with other countries. so what we are saying now is that people should expect within the next 24 hours. so