hello and welcome to gb news . hello and welcome to gb news satellite.— . hello and welcome to gb news satellite. rm— . hello and welcome to gb news satellite. i'm martin— hello and welcome to gb news satellite. i'm martin daubney . satellite. i'm martin daubney. and— satellite. i'm martin daubney. and for— satellite. i'm martin daubney. and for the— satellite. i'm martin daubney. and for the next— satellite. i'm martin daubney. and for the next three hours, i'll and for the next three hours, u-ulkeeping— and for the next three hours, i'll-keeping you- and for the next three hours, i'll keeping you company i'll be keeping you company on tv i'll be keeping you company on w-annuat— i'll be keeping you company on tv-annual digital- i'll be keeping you company on tv annual digital radio. tv online annual digital radio. wen,— tv online annual digital radio. well-plenty— tv online annual digital radio. well, plenty coming up well, there's plenty coming up on-show— well, there's plenty coming up on-show today,— well, there's plenty coming up on show today, including on the show today, including win— on the show today, including win the— on the show today, including will the migration bill be torpedoed— will the migration bill be torpedoed by— will the migration bill be torpedoed by leftie lawyers? yet there— torpedoed by leftie lawyers? yet there ee— torpedoed by leftie lawyers? yet there en— torpedoed by leftie lawyers? yet there are on manoeuvres again at teet— there are on manoeuvres again at test were— there are on manoeuvres again at test getting— there are on manoeuvres again at last we're getting the 20,000 pence— last we're getting the 20,000 police officers— last we're getting the 20,000 police officers we _ last we're getting the 20,000 police officers we were promised in 2019. — police officers we were promised in 2019. -ie— police officers we were promised in ewe-n tee— police officers we were promised in 2019. -it too little - in 2019. but is it too little tee— in 2019. but is it too little tee mee— in 2019. but is it too little too late? plus— in 2019. but is it too little too late? plus are slavery reparations— too late? plus are slavery reparations the - too late? plus are slavery reparations the right thing to do fer— reparations the right thing to do for britain,— reparations the right thing to do for britain, or— reparations the right thing to do for britain, or will they beekeepe— do for britain, or will they bankrupt the— do for britain, or will they bankrupt the nation? but first, it's bankrupt the nation? but first, we the— bankrupt the nation? but first, we the newe—

bankrupt the nation? but first, it's the news headlines with the wonderful— it's the news headlines with the wonderful tatiana— it's the news headlines with the wonderful tatiana . martin. thank wonderful tatiana. martin. thank you wonderful tatiana. martin. thank yeu ene— wonderful tatiana. martin. thank you and geod— wonderful tatiana. martin. thank you and good afternoon. it's moo.— you and good afternoon. it's moo. nee— you and good afternoon. it's 12:00. this is— you and good afternoon. it's 12:00. this is the- you and good afternoon. it's 12:00. this is the latest from the— 12:00. this is the latest from the eh— 12:00. this is the latest from the gb newsroom. the deadline for the gb newsroom. the deadline tee hhtteh— the gb newsroom. the deadline for british nationals to reach the— for british nationals to reach the evacuation— for british nationals to reach the evacuation airfield in sudan has the evacuation airfield in sudan hee hw— the evacuation airfield in sudan hee heeeet— the evacuation airfield in sudan has now passed ._ the evacuation airfield in sudan has now passed . it comes as has now passed. it comes as thet— has now passed. it comes as final evacuation— has now passed. it comes as final evacuation flights out of swteh— final evacuation flights out of swteh wttt— final evacuation flights out of sudan will take— final evacuation flights out of sudan will take place later today.— sudan will take place later today- deputy— sudan will take place later today. deputy prime minister ether— today. deputy prime minister oliver dowden_ today. deputy prime minister oliver dowden will chair a cobra meethe— oliver dowden will chair a cobra heethe thte— oliver dowden will chair a cobra meeting this afternoon to theme— meeting this afternoon to discuss the _ meeting this afternoon to discuss the security situation in discuss the security situation th khartoum— discuss the security situation in khartoum ahead of the final ttteht— in khartoum ahead of the final tttght, tethe— in khartoum ahead of the final flight, taking off— in khartoum ahead of the final flight, taking off at 6 pm. uk the— flight, taking off at 6 pm. uk the ee— flight, taking off at 6 pm. uk the so tet— flight, taking off at 6 pm. uk the so he ,— flight, taking off at 6 pm. uk time so far , british forces have time so far, british forces have eeewet— time so far, british forces have rescued more than— time so far, british forces have rescued more than 1500 people, but hwhttete— rescued more than 1500 people, but hundreds have— rescued more than 1500 people, but hundreds have been killed the— but hundreds have been killed the tene— but hundreds have been killed the tens et— but hundreds have been killed and tens of thousands have fled for and tens of thousands have fled tee theh— and tens of thousands have fled for their lives— and tens of thousands have fled for their lives in— and tens of thousands have fled for their lives in a— and tens of thousands have fled for their lives in a power ettwggte— for their lives in a power struggle between the army and the paramilitary— struggle between the army and the paramilitary ._ struggle between the army and the paramilitary . great ormond the paramilitary. great ormond street— the paramilitary. great ormond street hospital— the paramilitary. great ormond street hospital has been granted exehhttehe— street hospital has been granted exempttehe te— street hospital has been granted exemptions to keep nurses wetthg— exemptions to keep nurses working during upcoming strike eetteh— working during upcoming strike eetteh h— working during upcoming strike eetteh th the— working during upcoming strike action in the children's heehttet— action in the children's hospital expressed concerns about— hospital expressed concerns about staffing— hospital expressed concerns about staffing as royal college of

about staffing as royal college et whethe— about staffing as royal college of nursing staff— about staffing as royal college of nursing staff prepared to wett— of nursing staff prepared to watt eut— of nursing staff prepared to walk out the— of nursing staff prepared to walk out the decision is a u—twh— walk out the decision is a u—turn, having- walk out the decision is a u—turn, having previously said there— u—turn, having previously said there wttt— u—turn, having previously said there will be— u—turn, having previously said there will be no— u—turn, having previously said there will be no exemptions , rcn there will be no exemptions, rcn hehehe— there will be no exemptions, rcn hehehe wttt— there will be no exemptions, rcn members will go— there will be no exemptions, rcn members will go on strike from 8 pm.— members will go on strike from 8 pm. temewew— members will go on strike from 8 pm. tomorrow until— members will go on strike from 8 pm. tomorrow until monday p.m. tomorrow until monday ewehhe— p.m. tomorrow until monday evening .— p.m. tomorrow until monday evening . health— p.m. tomorrow until monday evening . health workers evening. health workers hetehghg— evening. health workers belonging to— evening. health workers belonging to the gmb union weetettew— belonging to the gmb union yesterday accepted a 5% pay otter— yesterday accepted a 5% pay the hem — yesterday accepted a 5% pay offer from the _ yesterday accepted a 5% pay offer from the government . union offer from the government. union etttetete— offer from the government. union etttetete wttt— offer from the government. union officials will now— offer from the government. union officials will now vote to accept— officials will now vote to accept the — officials will now vote to accept the offer at a meeting of the whs— accept the offer at a meeting of the nhs staff— accept the offer at a meeting of the nhs staff council next week. the the nhs staff council next week. the hetttteet— the nhs staff council next week. the political editor— the nhs staff council next week. the political editor for the hwttheteh— the political editor for the huffington post told gb news it teem-t— huffington post told gb news it teem-t ceme— huffington post told gb news it doesn't come soon— huffington post told gb news it doesn't come soon enough . c doesn't come soon enough. it's expected— doesn't come soon enough. it's expected that— doesn't come soon enough. it's expected that the— doesn't come soon enough. it's expected that the unions that council will actually vote to accept the pay deal in which case all the members , the union case all the members, the union members and the nhs employees will get the pay rise that the government is offering and then that then begs the question will the strike then continue to. i'm not sure it will. so it could actually could be looking at the end of the of the dispute coming quite soon which although it won't come soon enough to stop this this weekend strike action

labouris this this weekend strike action labour is promising to invest in more teachers who are specialist in their subject if they win the next general election. it comes as the labour analysis- next general election. it comes as the labour analysis of- as the labour analysis of government— as the labour analysis of government figures suggests that there— government figures suggests that there we— government figures suggests that there ethe— government figures suggests that thete gape h— government figures suggests that there are gaps in expert teeehhe— there are gaps in expert teaching provisions in state eeheete— teaching provisions in state schools across— teaching provisions in state schools across england. shadow ttweetteh— schools across england. shadow education secretary bridget hhttttheeh— education secretary bridget phillipson says schools are eemmhthe— phillipson says schools are scrambling to _ phillipson says schools are scrambling to fill roles, meehhe— scrambling to fill roles, meaning there aren't high standards— meaning there aren't high standards for— meaning there aren't high standards for all children . she standards for all children. she tott— standards for all children. she tett eh— standards for all children. she told gb news— standards for all children. she told gb news that under labour, the challenges— told gb news that under labour, the challenges to— told gb news that under labour, the challenges to teacher recruitment— the challenges to teacher recruitment and retention will change— recruitment and retention will change ewe— recruitment and retention will change over the _ recruitment and retention will change over the course of the teet— change over the course of the test teette— change over the course of the last decade, the— change over the course of the last decade, the government has tested— last decade, the government has weettet ewe— last decade, the government has presided over a— last decade, the government has presided over a recruitment tettwe— presided over a recruitment tettwe mt— presided over a recruitment tettwe mt e— presided over a recruitment failure and a real challenge across our schools. so what scheme— across our schools. so what schools are having to do at the moment when they're scrambling to find teachers to cover lessons is to call upon non—specialists to deliver those lessons of the massive lessons because of the massive challenges that we're seeing around teacher recruitment and retention . and under labour, retention. and under labour, that change. make that will change. we'll make sure all children have sure that all children have access specialist provision access to specialist provision and more and that we deliver more teachers by ending those tax breaks private schools . breaks on private schools. scotland's first minister humza

hemat— scotland's first minister humza veweet ,— scotland's first minister humza veweet , wttt— scotland's first minister humza yousaf , will lead— scotland's first minister humza yousaf , will lead a day of yousaf, will lead a day of eemhetgmmg— yousaf, will lead a day of campaigning in dundee today to mett— campaigning in dundee today to met-shee— campaigning in dundee today to mark since becoming the mark a month since becoming the sht— mark a month since becoming the swh-wt— mark a month since becoming the swh-wt vehem— mark a month since becoming the snp-mr yousaf has- mark a month since becoming the snp mr yousaf has had a snp leader. mr yousaf has had a twmwttwewe— snp leader. mr yousaf has had a tumultuous start— snp leader. mr yousaf has had a tumultuous start to— snp leader. mr yousaf has had a tumultuous start to his time in charge. — tumultuous start to his time in charge. wtth— tumultuous start to his time in charge. with the— tumultuous start to his time in charge. with the arrest of hermet— charge. with the arrest of former chief— charge. with the arrest of former chief executive peter thwwett— former chief executive peter thwwett mt — former chief executive peter murrell and former snp treasurer teth— murrell and former snp treasurer ceth heettte— murrell and former snp treasurer colin beattie, who— murrell and former snp treasurer colin beattie, who were both hweetteetet— colin beattie, who were both investigated over party finances and investigated over party finances mt teteeeet— investigated over party finances and released without charge . and released without charge. however, ahead— and released without charge. however, ahead of his visit tetew— however, ahead of his visit tetew he— however, ahead of his visit today, he assured his supporters thet— today, he assured his supporters that he— today, he assured his supporters that he petty— today, he assured his supporters that his party membership is on the hee— that his party membership is on the mt— that his party membership is on the rise and support for independence remains strong . the independence remains strong. the chmeeh— independence remains strong. the chmeeh ettw— independence remains strong. the chmeeh ettw et— independence remains strong. the crimean city of sevastopol has teem— crimean city of sevastopol has been htt— crimean city of sevastopol has been htt hw— crimean city of sevastopol has been htt by m— crimean city of sevastopol has been hit by an alleged drone attach— been hit by an alleged drone etteet .— been hit by an alleged drone etteet . the— been hit by an alleged drone attack . the fire— been hit by an alleged drone attack . the fire caused by that attack. the fire caused by that attach— attack. the fire caused by that attack happened _ attack. the fire caused by that attack happened at a fuel etemee— attack happened at a fuel storage facility but has since teem— storage facility but has since been extinguished . the crimean been extinguished. the crimean ettw— been extinguished. the crimean ettw whteh— been extinguished. the crimean city, which russia— been extinguished. the crimean city, which russia annexed from whethe— city, which russia annexed from whethe h— city, which russia annexed from ukraine in 2014,— city, which russia annexed from ukraine in 2014, has come under reheated— ukraine in 2014, has come under tepeetet eh— ukraine in 2014, has come under repeated air attacks since tweete— repeated air attacks since russia sent— repeated air attacks since russia sent troops into ukraine teet— russia sent troops into ukraine teet tehmem— russia sent troops into ukraine last february. russian officials have— last february. russian officials have htemet— last february. russian officials have blamed the— last february. russian officials have blamed the attacks on . have blamed the attacks on. whethe— have blamed the attacks on. ukraine official— have blamed the attacks on. ukraine official documents about . a the— ukraine official documents about . a £13 billion— ukraine official documents about

. a £13 billion royal navy ewmehheh— . a £13 billion royal navy submarine have reportedly been home— submarine have reportedly been tewht h— submarine have reportedly been tewht th the— submarine have reportedly been found in the toilets of a wetherspoons- found in the toilets of a wetherspoons pub. the sun mewehehet— wetherspoons pub. the sun newspaper has— wetherspoons pub. the sun newspaper has said files about the the— newspaper has said files about the hms anson— newspaper has said files about the hms anson were left in the tmeee— the hms anson were left in the furness railway— the hms anson were left in the furness railway in— the hms anson were left in the furness railway in cumbria . it furness railway in cumbria. it ethe— furness railway in cumbria. it eett the— furness railway in cumbria. it said the documents appear to mow— said the documents appear to ehew the— said the documents appear to show the inner— said the documents appear to show the inner workings of the w.eeeet — show the inner workings of the w.eeeet the— show the inner workings of the vessel. the royal— show the inner workings of the vessel. the royal navy has said in vessel. the royal navy has said th e— vessel. the royal navy has said in a statement— vessel. the royal navy has said in a statement that no classified— in a statement that no classified information appeared in classified information appeared h-hehete— classified information appeared h-hehete .— classified information appeared tm-hehete.w— classified information appeared in papers . a photograph of in those papers. a photograph of the king— in those papers. a photograph of the king studying— in those papers. a photograph of the king studying at cambridge uhtwetettw— the king studying at cambridge university has— the king studying at cambridge university has been released for the very— university has been released for the very thet— university has been released for the very first time.— university has been released for the very first time. trinity cettege — the very first time. trinity college shared- the very first time. trinity college shared the picture of the them— college shared the picture of the them he— college shared the picture of the then 18 year— college shared the picture of the then 18 year old prince theat— the then 18 year old prince eheet et— the then 18 year old prince ahead of his— the then 18 year old prince ahead of his coronation. next week,— ahead of his coronation. next week, charles— ahead of his coronation. next week, charles studied archaeology- week, charles studied archaeology and anthropology in his archaeology and anthropology in hte thet— archaeology and anthropology in hte thet wett— archaeology and anthropology in his first year and— archaeology and anthropology in his first year and then history for his first year and then history tee twe— his first year and then history ter two were— his first year and then history for two years, graduating . in for two years, graduating. in two— for two years, graduating. in retro et— for two years, graduating. in retro at the— for two years, graduating. in 1970 at and three new photographs- 1970 at and three new photographs of the king and tween— photographs of the king and queen consort— photographs of the king and queen consort have been released theat— queen consort have been released eheet et— queen consort have been released eheet et hert— queen consort have been released ahead of next week's coronation. the— ahead of next week's coronation. the mage— ahead of next week's coronation. the images were— ahead of next week's coronation. the images were taken in the heteee-e— the images were taken in the three the— the images were taken in the palace's blue drawing room last menth— palace's blue drawing room last month. eme— palace's blue drawing room last month. one shows— palace's blue drawing room last month. one shows the couple etemthe— month. one shows the couple etehtme ette— month. one shows the couple standing side by— month. one shows the couple standing side by side in front of standing side by side in front et a— standing side by side in front or e pertrett— standing side by side in front of a portrait of— standing side by side in front of a portrait of king george, the— of a portrait of king george, the firm— of a portrait of king george, the tttth et— of a portrait of king george, the fifth at his— of a portrait of king george, the fifth at his coronation in term — the fifth at his coronation in 1911. another— the fifth at his coronation in

1911. another shows charles and mute— 1911. another shows charles and camilla individually with the queen— camilla individually with the queen consort,— camilla individually with the queen consort, wearing the late eweeh-e— queen consort, wearing the late eweeh-e heart— queen consort, wearing the late queen's pearl drop— queen consort, wearing the late queen's pearl drop earrings . queen's pearl drop earrings. thre— queen's pearl drop earrings. thte te— queen's pearl drop earrings. thte te eh— queen's pearl drop earrings. this is gb news.— queen's pearl drop earrings. this is gb news. we'll bring you more news as it— this is gb news. we'll bring you more news as it happens . now more news as it happens. now it's more news as it happens. now he teet— more news as it happens. now he heet te— more news as it happens. now it's back to new— more news as it happens. now it's back to new ._ it's back to new. saturday iand— it's back to new. saturday iand thmt— it's back to new. saturday l and thank you - it's back to new. saturday i and thank you for- it's back to new. saturdayi - and thank you for that, it's back to new. saturdayi - and thank you for tioff tatiana. well, let's kick off with story this with the biggest story this week, richard sharp, of course, has his role as has resigned from his role as the chairman bbc. mr the chairman of the bbc. mr sharp stood down after- c"? ”n?" mr sharp stood down after a report terme— sharp stood down after a report tewht he— sharp stood down after a report found he broke— sharp stood down after a report found he broke the rules on ephemtmehte— found he broke the rules on appointments by failing to teeth— appointments by failing to declare his— appointments by failing to declare his role helping declare his role in helping heme— declare his role in helping boris johnson— declare his role in helping boris johnson get a £800,000 teem — boris johnson get a £800,000 teem wett— boris johnson get a £800,000 loan. well, joining- boris johnson get a £800,000 loan. �*vw�*rzgl " g boris johnson get a £800,000 loan. " g loan. well, joining me to discuss this is our political reporter , catherine forster reporter, catherine forster qatar win. lots to go through here. the political bent or the bbc ? is it an issue? but first bbc? is it an issue? but first of all, do bbc? is it an issue? but first et at, to wet— bbc? is it an issue? but first of all, do you think,- , , but first of all, do you think, richard twmhet— of all, do you think, richard jumped er— of all, do you think, richard jumped or the— of all, do you think, richard jumped or did he jump before he was jumped or did he jump before he hwehet— jumped or did he jump before he hwehet e — jumped or did he jump before he was pushed ? well,— jumped or did he jump before he was pushed ? �*vw�*rzgl rt jumped or did he jump before he was pushed ? �*ft�*rz;n tnrt l was pushed? well, much like dominic raab, richard sharp had

been saying that he hadn't done anything wrong and he planned to continue to. and then very suddenly the report came out and he said he was going. it seems that what's happened is that the board were given a pre briefing on the report and they were very concerned by what they heard . concerned by what they heard. and so it sounds like it was made clear to him now, the director general, tim davie, went to richard sharp's west london home on thursday, had a meeting with him , although it meeting with him, although it sounds like he'd already decided to go. but that it was made clear to him that they thought the situation was untenable . so the situation was untenable. so he's resigned, reluctant albie okay, so the aftershock of this , of course, is the political bias at the bbc. the implication here— bias at the bbc. the implication here herme— bias at the bbc. the implication here hehe het— bias at the bbc. the implication here being not only— bias at the bbc. the implication here being not only was- the implication here being not only was it a tem— here being not only was it a term that— here being not only was it a loan that mr— here being not only was it a loan that mr sharp was doing the ceheewetwe— loan that mr sharp was doing the conservative party's bidding etttertettw— conservative party's bidding editorially, is— conservative party's bidding editorially, is there any merit in editorially, is there any merit th thet— editorially, is there any merit th that e — editorially, is there any merit in that 7 well,— editorially, is there any merit in that ? well, not- editorially, is there any merit in that ? �*ft�*rz;n t in that? well, not in terms of what he actually did , i don't what he actually did, i don't think in that it's widely thought that he was pretty good

actually as chairman because he pushed back the then culture secretary, nadine dorries wanted to scrap the licence fee. he pushed back very t he pushed back very strongly eeehet— pushed back very strongly against that. _ pushed back very strongly against that. he in fact got funding— against that. he in fact got funding through to 2027, 28 three— funding through to 2027, 28 three te— funding through to 2027, 28 linked to inflation. he was seen by linked to inflation. he was seen hw mehw— linked to inflation. he was seen hw memw et— linked to inflation. he was seen hw memw at the— linked to inflation. he was seen by many at the top of the bbc as tethe— by many at the top of the bbc as tehe eh— by many at the top of the bbc as doing an excellent— by many at the top of the bbc as doing an excellent job. plenty of doing an excellent job. plenty er peehte— doing an excellent job. plenty of people lower— doing an excellent job. plenty of people lower down, of course, thought— of people lower down, of course, thought that— of people lower down, of course, thought that the _ of people lower down, of course, thought that the whole thing did not. thought that the whole thing did not the— thought that the whole thing did not the optoe— thought that the whole thing did not. the optics of— thought that the whole thing did not. the optics of it were not eoot. — not. the optics of it were not goot. the— not. the optics of it were not good. the optics— not. the optics of it were not good. the optics of it were not 9°°dr_ good. the optics of it were not goot, wee— good. the optics of it were not good, were they?— good. the optics of it were not good, were they? and that's why he hot — good, were they? and that's why he hot to — good, were they? and that's why he hot to go, — good, were they? and that's why he had to go, because he he tottet— he had to go, because he he tottet to— he had to go, because he he failed to declare— he had to go, because he he failed to declare that he had hot— failed to declare that he had hot the— failed to declare that he had had this facilitating role in gettme— had this facilitating role in gettmg thre— had this facilitating role in getting this loan for boris rohheoh— getting this loan for boris rohmeoh ot— getting this loan for boris johnson of 800,000 that we don't mow— johnson of 800,000 that we don't know ht— johnson of 800,000 that we don't know tt horre— johnson of 800,000 that we don't know if boris johnson ever took mt— know if boris johnson ever took mt we— know if boris johnson ever took mt we tom-t— know if boris johnson ever took and we don't know— know if boris johnson ever took and we don't know who that loan came from. there's— and we don't know who that loan came from. there's lots of unanswered questions still. but eteortw— unanswered questions still. but eteortw ht— unanswered questions still. but clearly it didn't— unanswered questions still. but clearly it didn't look good and it clearly it didn't look good and t them-t— clearly it didn't look good and it didn't look— clearly it didn't look good and it didn't look good that it turned— it didn't look good that it turned out— it didn't look good that it turned out that he'd spoken to horre— turned out that he'd spoken to boris johnson— turned out that he'd spoken to boris johnson before he put the uhhtteottoh— boris johnson before he put the ophtteottoh h— boris johnson before he put the application in and— boris johnson before he put the application in and said , i'm application in and said, i'm going— application in and said, i'm tome to— application in and said, i'm going to apply— application in and said, i'm going to apply for the role. so the potential—

going to apply for the role. so the potential for— going to apply for the role. so the potential for a conflict of htereet— the potential for a conflict of htereet, werw— the potential for a conflict of interest, very clear . now, we interest, very clear. now, we tom-t— interest, very clear. now, we tom-t mow— interest, very clear. now, we don't know that— interest, very clear. now, we don't know that it had any tmhoet— don't know that it had any tmhoet oh— don't know that it had any tmhoet oh whw— don't know that it had any impact on why boris johnson ohhomtet— impact on why boris johnson oppomtet htm— impact on why boris johnson appointed him. we don't know that.— appointed him. we don't know that. out— appointed him. we don't know that. but certainly it doesn't toot— that. but certainly it doesn't toot 900d-_ that. but certainly it doesn't look good. and— that. but certainly it doesn't look good. and so he has he's tome.— look good. and so he has he's gone. amt— look good. and so he has he's gone. and then— look good. and so he has he's gone. and then the plot thickened— gone. and then the plot thickened when a certain mr gary ureter— thickened when a certain mr gary ttmeter wotet— thickened when a certain mr gary lineker waded in— thickened when a certain mr gary lineker waded in saying that the hoc— lineker waded in saying that the the ehotrmoh— lineker waded in saying that the bbc chairman should never be erected— bbc chairman should never be eeteetet hw— bbc chairman should never be selected by the _ bbc chairman should never be selected by the government of the tow. — selected by the government of the how hot— selected by the government of the day. not now,— selected by the government of the day. \r:::r selected by the government of the day. to the day. not now, not ever. reenter— the day. not now, not ever. teohter sum— the day. not now, not ever. leander sun weighed- the day. \r:::r leander sun weighed that in euwtmg— leander sun weighed that in eowmg ,— leander sun weighed that in eowmg , wett— leander sun weighed that in saying , well, it— leander sun weighed that in saying , well, it didn't apply to saying, well, it didn't apply to wow— saying, well, it didn't apply to wour erohw— saying, well, it didn't apply to your crony alyssa _ saying, well, it didn't apply to your crony alyssa campbell, in zoor — your crony alyssa campbell, in 2001 because _ your crony alyssa campbell, in 2001 because of— your crony alyssa campbell, in 2001 because of course, tony htotr— 2001 because of course, tony blair previously— 2001 because of course, tony blair previously appointed gavin howe— blair previously appointed gavin howe oe— blair previously appointed gavin howe oe the— blair previously appointed gavin davis as the head— blair previously appointed gavin davis as the head of the bbc, a tohour— davis as the head of the bbc, a tohour rottw— davis as the head of the bbc, a labour party member in 2001. yes— labour party member in 2001. wee tt-e— labour party member in 2001. yes, it's always— labour party member in 2001. yes, it's always been a potttteot— yes, it's always been a political appointment and i thht— political appointment and i think what's— political appointment and i think what's happened now is thet— think what's happened now is that there-e— think what's happened now is that there's a _ think what's happened now is that there's a sort of all come out— that there's a sort of all come out two— that there's a sort of all come out hto the— that there's a sort of all come out into the open. people probably didn't realise, but politicians going back, prime ministers. margaret thatcher, tony very specifically , tony blair very specifically, gavin davis, who was appointed chair under new labour , was a chair under new labour, was a huge labour party donor. also greg, who was appointed director

general , greg, who was appointed director general, he'd given greg, who was appointed director general , he'd given 50,000 to general, he'd given 50,000 to laboun general, he'd given 50,000 to labour. so this is nothing new? no, nothing new about this at all. but of course labour will now look at this and say, look, this is terrible. jobs for the mates. so rishi sunak under a lot of pressure for that to change. but i'm not sure that it will. it's also worth pointing out— will. it's also worth pointing out that— will. it's also worth pointing out that gavin— n it's also worth pointing out that gavin davis's wife ran eortoh— out that gavin davis's wife ran gordon brown's— out that gavin davis's wife ran gordon brown's office . e gordon brown's office. so it's tetr— gordon brown's office. so it's tttr to— gordon brown's office. so it's tttr to say— gordon brown's office. so it's fair to say there— gordon brown's office. so it's fair to say there is a political thing, but not very often that you might hear me say this. but does gary lineker have a gn but does gary lineker have a point? shoute— does gary lineker have a point? shoutt thre— does gary lineker have a point? should this role— does gary lineker have a point? should this role be completely thotttteot— should this role be completely apolitical-that— should this role be completely apolitical-that an- apolitical or is that an impossible— apolitical or is that an impossible dream ? e apolitical or is that an— impossible dream ? i think it now impossible dream? i think it now seems like there will be a momentum building behind that happening . however, i suspect happening. however, i suspect that given rishi sunak has got his hands full with lots of other very pressing problems, i doubt that that will happen. they're talking about getting somebody that's already on the board. they're also talking about getting maybe a woman. there wasn't even a woman on the shortlist last time that apparently concerned oliver dowden, who was culture

secretary. now of course, deputy prime minister may be somebody like baroness nicky morgan. she was , of course, conservative was, of course, conservative culture secretary, maybe somebody like dame helena morrissey. lots of names in the frame. we shall see. but i think what they will likely to do is steer clear of somebody who is sort of nakedly politico . so, sort of nakedly politico. so, for example, sir robbie gibb , for example, sir robbie gibb, who worked under prime minister theresa may as head of comms, he's on the board. he's already ruled himself out because i just think it would be such a bad look. but of course, richard sharp has said this , you know, sharp has said this, you know, knowledge of the government and contact in the government really helped him to fight the bbc's corner. so it's a it's a double edged sword. do you think the job, other jobs in job, like many otherjobs in high office, are becoming a bit job, like many otherjobs in hita office, are becoming a bit job, like many otherjobs in hita poisoned'e becoming a bit job, like many otherjobs in hita poisoned chalice? i] a bit job, like many otherjobs in hita poisoned chalice? i mean, of a poisoned chalice? i mean, everybody of a poisoned chalice? i mean, ewerwhotw who— of a poisoned chalice? i mean, everybody who applies- : rttrfn rt.r::;? i mean, everybody who applies the : rthe rt.r::;7 i mean, everybody who applies the job wttt— everybody who applies the job wttt-thetr— everybody who applies the job will-their entire- everybody who applies the job will their entire life will have their entire life whet— will have their entire life rotet-ewerw- will have their entire life raked every donation raked over every donation thew-we— raked over every donation thew-we eer— raked over every donation they've ever made, every potttteot— they've ever made, every political comment they've ever mote— political comment they've ever mote-thet— political comment they've ever made -that-0ut|

political comment they've ever. made -that-0ut the made. is that censoring out the best talent? well, it might be, but best talent? well, it might be, hut r— best talent? well, it might be, hut r thhh— best talent? well, it might be, but i think, you— best talent? well, it might be, but i think, you know,- 7 well, it might be, but i think, you know, the bbc are but i think, you know, the bbc toothe— but i think, you know, the bbc are facing massive challenges now over perceived impartiality or teet— now over perceived impartiality or toot ot— now over perceived impartiality or lack of over— now over perceived impartiality or lack of over the— now over perceived impartiality or lack of over the bbc licence tee.— or lack of over the bbc licence tee. thew-re— or lack of over the bbc licence fee. they're going— or lack of over the bbc licence fee. they're going to have a other— fee. they're going to have a htoet hote— fee. they're going to have a black hole of— fee. they're going to have a black hole of about 400 million a black hole of about 400 million oweor. — black hole of about 400 million oweor. r— black hole of about 400 million ueorw rthht— black hole of about 400 million a year. i think by— black hole of about 400 million a year. i think by 2027, 28. so thew-re— a year. i think by 2027, 28. so thew-re facing — a year. i think by 2027, 28. so they're facing huge challenges and they're facing huge challenges mt wee— they're facing huge challenges mt vesr there— they're facing huge challenges and yes, there is— they're facing huge challenges and yes, there is a risk that you— and yes, there is a risk that wou wttt— and yes, there is a risk that wou wttt put— and yes, there is a risk that you will put people off because thew— you will put people off because thew tom-t— you will put people off because they don't want— you will put people off because they don't want the scrutiny, hut— they don't want the scrutiny, hut ot— they don't want the scrutiny, hut ot the — they don't want the scrutiny, but at the same— they don't want the scrutiny, but at the same time, i mean, eomehotw— but at the same time, i mean, somebody like— but at the same time, i mean, somebody like richard sharp, he-e— somebody like richard sharp, me got— somebody like richard sharp, he's gotlfortune_ somebody like richard sharp, he's got fortune of about 200 he's got a fortune of about 200 mttttom — he's got a fortune of about 200 million. ithis_ he's got a fortune of about 200 million. this £160,000 a year million. so this £160,000 a year that— million. so this £160,000 a year that he— million. so this £160,000 a year that he eome— million. so this £160,000 a year that he earns is— million. so this £160,000 a year that he earns is you— million. so this £160,000 a year that he earns is you can't say he-e— that he earns is you can't say he-e th— that he earns is you can't say he-e th ht— that he earns is you can't say he-e th tt tor— that he earns is you can't say he's in it for the— that he earns is you can't say he's in it for the money. and in toot,— he's in it for the money. and in toot, he— he's in it for the money. and in toot, he ghee— he's in it for the money. and in fact, he gives that— he's in it for the money. and in fact, he gives that to charity. so fact, he gives that to charity. so tote— fact, he gives that to charity. so tote ot— fact, he gives that to charity. so lots of questions and lots of toue — so lots of questions and lots of toue amt— so lots of questions and lots of focus. and who— so lots of questions and lots of focus. and who knows where we wttt— focus. and who knows where we wttt eht — focus. and who knows where we wttt end up— focus. and who knows where we wttt end up ot— focus. and who knows where we will end up at the— focus. and who knows where we will end up at the end of june, where— will end up at the end of june, where there— will end up at the end of june, where there probably put eomehotw— where there probably put somebody in— where there probably put somebody in in an interim hoetttoh— somebody in in an interim hoetttoh ht— somebody in in an interim position if they— somebody in in an interim position if they haven't got omwhotw— position if they haven't got ohwhotw. hut— position if they haven't got anybody. but whoever gets it next,— anybody. but whoever gets it next, there-e— anybody. but whoever gets it next, there's going to be a massive focus— next, there's going to be a massive focus on them. e massive focus on them. isn't there— massive focus on them. isn't there mother— massive focus on them. isn't there another massive focus coming barclay , the coming up? steve barclay, the health secretary, course, health secretary, of course, going to court with the unions, the and unite rejected the

the rcn and unite rejected the latest nurse pay offer. how is this going to end— latest nurse pay offer. how is this going to end ? - latest nurse pay offer. how is this going to end ? who knows? this going to end? who knows? who— this going to end? who knows? who mower— this going to end? who knows? who thowee r— this going to end? who knows? who knows? i think— this going to end? who knows? who knows? i think the- this going to end? �*rw�*hrzr 7 who knows? i think the rcn are in who knows? i think the rcn are th e— who knows? i think the rcn are in a difficult— who knows? i think the rcn are in a difficult position now become— in a difficult position now because they— in a difficult position now because they didn't have to announce those— because they didn't have to announce those strike dates to concrete— announce those strike dates to coincide with— announce those strike dates to coincide with the— announce those strike dates to coincide with the end of the mandate— coincide with the end of the mandate that— coincide with the end of the mandate that they had to legally hott— mandate that they had to legally hott the— mandate that they had to legally hold the strike.— mandate that they had to legally hold the strike. so— mandate that they had to legally hold the strike. so in some ways you— hold the strike. so in some ways wou woutt— hold the strike. so in some ways you would wonder— hold the strike. so in some ways you would wonder why they did this you would wonder why they did thte mt— you would wonder why they did thte mt hot— you would wonder why they did this and not really very eumrtehg— this and not really very surprising that it was found ttteeot— surprising that it was found tttegot .— surprising that it was found tttegot . hut— surprising that it was found illegal . but also they're illegal. but also they're heeomhg— illegal. but also they're heeomhg o— illegal. but also they're becoming a little bit on their h— becoming a little bit on their th terme— becoming a little bit on their own in terms of— becoming a little bit on their own in terms of the other unions heeouee— own in terms of the other unions heeouee the— own in terms of the other unions because the unison— own in terms of the other unions because the unison gmb , the because the unison gmb, the physiotherapist,— because the unison gmb, the physiotherapist, the midwives howe— physiotherapist, the midwives hove ott— physiotherapist, the midwives have all voted— physiotherapist, the midwives have all voted to agree to this pav— have all voted to agree to this row teet— have all voted to agree to this row teot .— have all voted to agree to this row teot . amt— have all voted to agree to this pay deal . and in— have all voted to agree to this pay deal . and in fact, the pay deal. and in fact, the unions , the— pay deal. and in fact, the unions , the nhs will be meeting unions, the nhs will be meeting hert— unions, the nhs will be meeting next week— unions, the nhs will be meeting next week mt— unions, the nhs will be meeting next week and it's— unions, the nhs will be meeting next week and it's likely that it next week and it's likely that t wttt— next week and it's likely that t wttt he— next week and it's likely that it will be voted— next week and it's likely that it will be voted through this government— it will be voted through this government deal of 5% and a one off government deal of 5% and a one ott homem— government deal of 5% and a one off payment, irrespective of whet— off payment, irrespective of what the— off payment, irrespective of what the rcn _ off payment, irrespective of what the rcn think . so and also, what the rcn think. so and also, of course there's— what the rcn think. so and also, of course there's now the fact that— of course there's now the fact that tree— of course there's now the fact that the ot— of course there's now the fact that kids at great— of course there's now the fact that kids at great ormond street potemttottw— that kids at great ormond street hotemttottw ore— that kids at great ormond street potentially are being put at

met.— potentially are being put at her. r— potentially are being put at risk. i mean,— potentially are being put at risk. i mean, you can only tmoghe— risk. i mean, you can only tmoehe ht— risk. i mean, you can only imagine if children come to harm as imagine if children come to harm oe o reeutt— imagine if children come to harm oe o reeutt ot— imagine if children come to harm as a result of these— imagine if children come to harm as a result of these strikes where— as a result of these strikes where public— as a result of these strikes where public opinion will go. wett— where public opinion will go. war, r— where public opinion will go. well, i think— where public opinion will go. well, i think that's an astonishing- well, i think that's an astonishing development in this etorw— astonishing development in this etorw. — astonishing development in this etorw. teet— astonishing development in this story. last week— astonishing development in this story. last week when - astonishing development in this story. h story. last week when we were here, we talked about critical care not being given for cancer patients. but if critical care is withheld from children , then is withheld from children, then at street, of all at great ormond street, of all places, really think the court places, i really think the court of public opinion will massively swing against this. will that, do think, influence the do you think, in influence the nurses getting their pay like we need to end this? or would it make need to end this? or would it mute the— need to end this? or would it make the public— need to end this? or would it make the public turn- : r::;hr: 57 or would it make the public turn against them — make the public turn against them because— make the public turn against them because it's how dare them because it's like, how dare you— them because it's like, how dare wou—ot- you endanger the lives of children? _ you endanger the lives of children? i— you endanger the lives of children? i-i- you endanger the lives of children? h you endanger the lives of- children? i-i mean, the children? i think i mean, the pubuc children? i think i mean, the public support for the nurses children? i think i mean, the pub beenpport for the nurses children? i think i mean, the pub been very for the nurses children? i think i mean, the pub been very for the hasn'tr has been very strong, hasn't it? it people it was about 56% of people support them a couple of weeks ago. but but previously, they've always provided critical care, cancer care, intensive care. so nobody's lives, you know , have nobody's lives, you know, have have been put at risk in the same way that potential is now. now they're scrabbling around now to put in some mitigation ons. but i think they're playing

quite a dangerous game now, aren't they? and you do wonder whether support will wane. and i also wonder whether the support of the nurses themselves for these strikes will start to go. are they really going to vote for another six months of strikes potentially to christmas when other unions have have decided to support the government? of decided to support the government ? of course, unison government? of course, unison and government? of course, unison mt the— government? of course, unison mt the orth— government? of course, unison and the gmb have— 37 of course, unison and the gmb have already accepted— and the gmb have already accepted this,— and the gmb have already accepted this, but hopefully the— accepted this, but hopefully thte wttt— accepted this, but hopefully this will come— accepted this, but hopefully this will come to a resolution soon. catherine,— this will come to a resolution soon. catherine, thanks for opening for me today. opening the show for me today. okay. next story now. okay. on to our next story now. the illegal the government's illegal migration has passed its migration bill has passed its third reading commons third reading in the commons despite right small despite right a small tory rebellion. the bill will now be will now head the lords, will now head to the lords, where to face heavy where is expected to face heavy criticism and swathes of amendments . but what does this amendments. but what does this all mean the prime all mean for the prime minister's crackdown on small boat one boat crossings? are we one step closer planes carrying asylum closer to planes carrying asylum seekers? last , seekers? finally, at last, rwanda leaving the tarmac ? well, rwanda leaving the tarmac? well, joining me now is the director for centre of migration and for the centre of migration and economic , my good economic prosperity, my good pal, wolf , and pal, stephen wolf, and international human rights lawyer david. hey, let's start with you, wolfie . so the

with you, wolfie. so on the one hand, is is good news. hand, this is this is good news. it passed by two 289 votes for 230. but is there trouble ahead? well, we expect to see the lawyers and the lords once again trying to drag this law down. but i think we will see some change— but i think we will see some change mt— but i think we will see some changes and the— but i think we will see some changes and the difficulties for the government— changes and the difficulties for the government in the house of home— the government in the house of torte there— the government in the house of lords there are— the government in the house of lords there are two elements that— lords there are two elements that the— lords there are two elements that the house— lords there are two elements that the house of lords can now uhtertote. — that the house of lords can now undertake. -first_ that the house of lords can now undertake. -first is- that the house of lords can now undertake. �*7 undertake. the first is that they serious amendments they can make serious amendments to the government and they can do so in such a way that they can weaken some of the key points. acas maybe they'll weeeth— points. acas maybe they'll weeter the— acas maybe they'll weaken the aspects about going to twerte— weaken the aspects about going to rwanda, maybe— weaken the aspects about going to rwanda, maybe they'll weaken the - detention, - to rwanda, maybe they'll weaken the detention, perhaps the 28 days detention, perhaps thew-tr— the 28 days detention, perhaps thew-tt 90— the 28 days detention, perhaps they'll go against the kind of eoreert— they'll go against the kind of eoreert thet— they'll go against the kind of concept that the— they'll go against the kind of concept that the european court of concept that the european court ot humer— concept that the european court of human rights— concept that the european court of human rights can be challenged— of human rights can be challenged by the government or teroret— challenged by the government or even ignored if— challenged by the government or even ignored if they do that, thet— even ignored if they do that, that creates— even ignored if they do that, that creates problems that creates massive problems for that creates massive problems tor the— that creates massive problems for the government . they could for the government. they could eteo— for the government. they could eteo etert— for the government. they could also start putting— for the government. they could also start putting in clauses thet— also start putting in clauses thet erehte— also start putting in clauses that enable immigration lawyers like that enable immigration lawyers ttte ttte— that enable immigration lawyers like like myself,— that enable immigration lawyers like like myself, but those who rerreeert— like like myself, but those who rerreeert tt— like like myself, but those who represent it say— like like myself, but those who represent it say the trade unions, the— represent it say the trade unions, the non—governmental oraerteettore— unions, the non—governmental organisations, all— unions, the non—governmental organisations, all those incants thet— organisations, all those incants thet ghee— organisations, all those incants that gives them— organisations, all those incants that gives them the option to

try that gives them the option to trw ero— that gives them the option to try and challenge them in in the courte— try and challenge them in in the eourte tr— try and challenge them in in the eourte hr the— try and challenge them in in the courts in the future— try and challenge them in in the courts in the future . the final courts in the future. the final oner— courts in the future. the final whteh— courts in the future. the final whteh r— courts in the future. the final one, which i don't— courts in the future. the final one, which i don't think will herrer— one, which i don't think will herrer te— one, which i don't think will herrer te tt— one, which i don't think will happen is if the— one, which i don't think will happen is if the house of lords eetuettw— happen is if the house of lords actually voted— happen is if the house of lords actually voted the _ happen is if the house of lords actually voted the bill out and ouerrutet— actually voted the bill out and ouerrutet tt— actually voted the bill out and overruled it completely , they overruled it completely, they etttt— overruled it completely, they etttt to — overruled it completely, they can still do so— overruled it completely, they can still do so at— overruled it completely, they can still do so at this third eteee— can still do so at this third eteae ero— can still do so at this third stage and that— can still do so at this third stage and that would create a huge— stage and that would create a huge government problem for the gouerrmert— huge government problem for the gouerrmert .— huge government problem for the gouerrmert . rt— huge government problem for the government . it would mean that government. it would mean that thew-t— government. it would mean that thew-t-heue— government. it would mean that they'd-havelbring- government. it would mean that they'd have bring it they'd either have to bring it teet— they'd either have to bring it heet tr— they'd either have to bring it heet tr egetr— they'd either have to bring it back in again in— they'd either have to bring it back in again in the next parliamentary— back in again in the next parliamentary session in which woutt— parliamentary session in which woutt reettw— parliamentary session in which would really scupper rishi sunak rtere— would really scupper rishi sunak there to— would really scupper rishi sunak there to etor— would really scupper rishi sunak plans to stop the— would really scupper rishi sunak plans to stop the boats. david etew— plans to stop the boats. david etew ,— plans to stop the boats. david otew , rewr— plans to stop the boats. david okay , david, let's— plans to stop the boats. david okay , david, let's bring you in okay, david, let's bring you in rt— okay, david, let's bring you in rt r— okay, david, let's bring you in now. if i could— okay, david, let's bring you in now. if i could ,_ okay, david, let's bring you in now. if i could , as- okay, david, let's bring you in now. if i could , as a- okay, david, let's bring you in now. �*7 heh now. if i could, as a human rights lawyer yourself and a keen spectator of the history of these challenges, are you expecting judges, qcs , expecting judges, qcs, charities, ngos to kind of get on their haunches and go to war on their haunches and go to war on this one? yeah good afternoon, martin.- on this one? yeah good afternoon, martin. i- h 7 / h good afternoon, martin. i think sterher— afternoon, martin. i think sterher eet— afternoon, martin. i think stephen set out very well. the teoee — stephen set out very well. the teoee rte— stephen set out very well. the free. we going— stephen set out very well. the faces. it's going to— stephen set out very well. the faces. it's going to the challenges, the bill is going to face as it goes through the lords. but let's assume that it does get through the lords in some happens, some form. once that happens, it's needs to it's got the courts it needs to get obviously the get through. obviously the

domestic courts, we've seen that the bill try and disapply the bill may try and disapply some judges looking at challenges that it's incompatible with the european convention. so already you have probably judges or sorry, lawyers ordering very expensive sports cars. i mean, it's going to get bound up in courts. first of all, domestically , then in of all, domestically, then in the european courts and it's going to go on and on and on. and much like you saw with twerte— and much like you saw with twerte ,— and much like you saw with twerte , tt-e— and much like you saw with rwanda , it's over a year on no rwanda, it's over a year on no one's gone there. _ rwanda, it's over a year on no one's gone there. g one's gone there. the government must have known at the time that would face legal challenges. and this law is, you know, at the start , the government already start, the government already said they cannot confirm that it complies with existing existing international laws. we've already seen the european court of human rights and the un refugee agency basically say that there are issues and non—compliance with those laws. so we already know that the government is effectively speeding into a brick wall which will be met with legal challenges unending. i think so . you know, i've said it before,

i don't see any people going back going to rwanda in this term of the government . okay, term of the government. okay, stephen, heading— term of the government. okay, stephen, heading back- term of the government. okay, stephen, heading back to- 3 okay, stephen, heading back to you. i tor-t— stephen, heading back to you. i tor-t trow— stephen, heading back to you. i don't know about— stephen, heading back to you. i don't know about you, mate, but i don't know about you, mate, but rr-uet— don't know about you, mate, but the wert— don't know about you, mate, but the wert to— don't know about you, mate, but i just want to get— don't know about you, mate, but i just want to get groundhog day ehout— i just want to get groundhog day ehout eth— i just want to get groundhog day about all this. _ i just want to get groundhog day about all this. it's— i just want to get groundhog day about all this. it's starting to teet— about all this. it's starting to teet-ereet— about all this. it's starting to feel-great brexit- feel like the great brexit hettettor— feel like the great brexit battalion once again , the lords, battalion once again, the lords, the-the— battalion once again, the lords, the-the ee- battalion once again, the lords, the-the same foes,- battalion once again, the lords, the the same foes, the the lawyers, the same foes, the reorte — the lawyers, the same foes, the same people laying down the tax on same people laying down the tax or the— same people laying down the tax or the roeet— same people laying down the tax on the roads, so— same people laying down the tax on the roads, so to— same people laying down the tax on the roads, so to speak. what do on the roads, so to speak. what to wou— on the roads, so to speak. what to wou thtrt— on the roads, so to speak. what do you think this— on the roads, so to speak. what do you think this will do about ruthe— do you think this will do about ruhtte truet— do you think this will do about public trust in— do you think this will do about public trust in the lords and in tewwere— public trust in the lords and in tewwere ,— public trust in the lords and in tewwere , ero— public trust in the lords and in lawyers , and do— public trust in the lords and in lawyers , and do you think lawyers, and do you think treuttehtw— lawyers, and do you think inevitably this— lawyers, and do you think inevitably this may lead to rreeeure to— inevitably this may lead to pressure to leave the ehcr ? cr pressure to leave the ehcr? cr wett— pressure to leave the ehcr? cr wett ,— pressure to leave the ehcr? cr wett , r— pressure to leave the ehcr? cr wett , r heue— pressure to leave the ehcr? cr well , i have seen— pressure to leave the ehcr? cr well , i have seen the pressure well, i have seen the pressure on well, i have seen the pressure or reorte— well, i have seen the pressure on people looking at the lords toothe— on people looking at the lords toottre et— on people looking at the lords looking at judges, looking at rottttetere— looking at judges, looking at politicians and— looking at judges, looking at politicians and saying that there— politicians and saying that there he— politicians and saying that there he e— politicians and saying that there is a huge— politicians and saying that there is a huge disconnect hetweer— there is a huge disconnect between our— there is a huge disconnect between our feelings , our votes between our feelings, our votes ero— between our feelings, our votes ert whet— between our feelings, our votes ert whet thew— between our feelings, our votes and what they undertake to do. the— and what they undertake to do. the re— and what they undertake to do. the te r— and what they undertake to do. the he e pert— and what they undertake to do. this is a part of— and what they undertake to do. this is a part of a— and what they undertake to do. this is a part of a huge- this is a part of a huge philosophical and political challenge that is going on where there is a dominance across the western world of in the united states. the democrats, some call it states. the democrats, some call t the— states. the democrats, some call it the socialists— states. the democrats, some call it the socialists in— states. the democrats, some call it the socialists in the— the democrats, some call it the socialists in the in the

uk it the socialists in the in the ut ero— it the socialists in the in the uk and other— it the socialists in the in the uk and other parts of western europe,— uk and other parts of western europer whteh— uk and other parts of western europe, which are— uk and other parts of western europe, which are challenging trettttoret— europe, which are challenging traditional conservative views , traditional conservative views, whteh— traditional conservative views, which include— traditional conservative views, which include strong borders , which include strong borders, etrore— which include strong borders, etrorg rotte— which include strong borders, strong police forces and control of strong police forces and control ot our— strong police forces and control of our own economies through, eew— of our own economies through, eew ,— of our own economies through, eew , teet— of our own economies through, eew , teet ot— of our own economies through, say , lack of low— of our own economies through, say , lack of low taxation and say, lack of low taxation and there-e— say, lack of low taxation and there-e heer— say, lack of low taxation and there's been successful utetortee— there's been successful victories for— there's been successful victories for them , brexit was victories for them, brexit was an victories for them, brexit was er eherrettor— victories for them, brexit was an aberration for— victories for them, brexit was an aberration for many of those on an aberration for many of those or the— an aberration for many of those or the tert— an aberration for many of those on the left and— an aberration for many of those on the left and the liberals who hetteue— on the left and the liberals who hetteue thet— on the left and the liberals who believe that they— on the left and the liberals who believe that they can win back the powere— believe that they can win back the powers that— believe that they can win back the powers that were lost there. art— the powers that were lost there. art the— the powers that were lost there. art thte te— the powers that were lost there. art thte te hert— the powers that were lost there. and this is part of— the powers that were lost there. and this is part of that battle . att— and this is part of that battle . att ot— and this is part of that battle . att ot the— and this is part of that battle . all of the hearts- and this is part of that battle . all of the hearts and- and this is part of that battle- . all of the hearts and minds of where government goes. and i think if rishi sunak is not able to push people who fall within the 28 days, rules under the new illegal migration bill and are removed to rawang or any other country that might come in in the future, then that is one less victory for those who believe in conservatism and certainly it is a victory for those who believe in the modern form of autocratic liberal socialism. uh, form of autocratic liberal socialism . uh, david, coming socialism. uh, david, coming teet— socialism. uh, david, coming teet to— socialism. uh, david, coming teet to wou— socialism. uh, david, coming back to you now,— socialism. uh, david, coming back to you now, one- t uh, david, coming back to you now, one of the ettettrt— back to you now, one of the sticking points— back to you now, one of the sticking points is- back to you now, one of the sticking points is around ehertee— sticking points is around ehertee to— sticking points is around changes to the modern slavery tewe— changes to the modern slavery tewe ,— changes to the modern slavery tewe , whteh— changes to the modern slavery laws , which of— changes to the modern slavery laws , which of course was laws, which of course was trtrotueet — laws, which of course was introduced by— laws, which of course was introduced by theresa may. she's

eomrtetrtrt— introduced by theresa may. she's complaining that— introduced by theresa may. she's complaining that they may be emouet— complaining that they may be removed , but— complaining that they may be removed , but of— complaining that they may be removed , but of course anybody removed, but of course anybody who-e— removed, but of course anybody who-e heer— removed, but of course anybody who's been observing this knows thet— who's been observing this knows thet moter— who's been observing this knows that modern slavery actually was a that modern slavery actually was e treet— that modern slavery actually was e greet wew— that modern slavery actually was e greet wew ot— that modern slavery actually was a great way of people coming hto— a great way of people coming trto the— a great way of people coming into the country— a great way of people coming into the country saying they were trafficked _ into the country saying they were trafficked and that meant thew— were trafficked and that meant thew eouttr-t— were trafficked and that meant they couldn't be— were trafficked and that meant they couldn't be returned. yeah, it's they couldn't be returned. yeah, he ore— they couldn't be returned. yeah, he ot— they couldn't be returned. yeah, he ot the— they couldn't be returned. yeah, it's one of the i— they couldn't be returned. yeah, it's one of the i mean, otutouetw— it's one of the i mean, obviously, there are there are reorte— obviously, there are there are reorte-eome- obviously, there are there are people-come and. people that have come and terutretw— people that have come and genuinely relied on protections of genuinely relied on protections ot thet— genuinely relied on protections of that provided _ genuinely relied on protections of that provided them . of that provided them. and what this effectively is this will do effectively is remove protections. so remove those protections. so there will genuine there will be genuine people that affected negatively that will be affected negatively because of but it also will because of it. but it also will stop, obviously, lot of people stop, obviously, a lot of people abusing that as a loophole abusing that as a as a loophole to get through that. so, you know , there like i said before , know, there like i said before, there are so many issues . once there are so many issues. once this legislation goes through you, there's not much time left in the next general election. and i don't think it's going to have any real impact on protecting the human rights of the genuine people that come over and stopping the boats. i really don't think it's going to do that, this term of do that, not in this term of this government. okay, steven, coming back to you as an expert on on the types of ways that

people are schooled and their advice on how to game our system, one of the things that we talked about is modern slavery. another one that's a ettettrt— slavery. another one that's a ettettrt rotrt— slavery. another one that's a sticking point in— ”yr another one that's a sticking point in this debate is the detention— sticking point in this debate is the detention of— sticking point in this debate is the detention of children, minors under— the detention of children, minors under 18. but we know there— minors under18. but we know there heue— minors under18. but we know there have been— minors under 18. but we know there have been huge concern ehout— there have been huge concern etout reorte— there have been huge concern about people who aren't a child eewtrt— about people who aren't a child eewtrt thew— about people who aren't a child eewtrt thew — about people who aren't a child saying they are. so even with the— saying they are. so even with thte tew— saying they are. so even with thte tew, ee— saying they are. so even with this law, as it— saying they are. so even with this law, as it stands , there this law, as it stands, there etttt— this law, as it stands, there are still loopholes on the to tow— are still loopholes on the to allow illegals— are still loopholes on the to allow illegals to— are still loopholes on the to allow illegals to gain our ewetem. — allow illegals to gain our system. well— allow illegals to gain our system. well you've got to look at system. well you've got to look et tew— system. well you've got to look et tew tr— system. well you've got to look at law in general. _ system. well you've got to look at law in general. h at law in general. i mean, no tew— at law in general. i mean, no tew te— at law in general. i mean, no law is actually perfect. and when you draft t t and when you draft legislation , when you draft legislation, hoeuer— when you draft legislation, however good _ when you draft legislation, however good the government tetet— however good the government legal department are and they've tore— legal department are and they've tore e— legal department are and they've done a tremendous— legal department are and they've done a tremendous job, i must say,— done a tremendous job, i must save ert— done a tremendous job, i must eew, ert being— done a tremendous job, i must say, and being able to try and retuee— say, and being able to try and retuee ert— say, and being able to try and reduce and narrow some of the toorhotee— reduce and narrow some of the loopholes that— reduce and narrow some of the loopholes that are _ reduce and narrow some of the loopholes that are being used by thoee— loopholes that are being used byi thoee—mttrerte those who are economic migrants or treat— those who are economic migrants or illegal migrants,— those who are economic migrants or illegal migrants, rather than terutre— or illegal migrants, rather than genuine refugees. hr; : or illegal migrants, rather than genuine refugees. : genuine refugees. they've done a tremendous job, but no law is perfect and all you're simply trying do when you new trying to do when you pass new legislation or add amendments is to try and work out where the people smugglers or those who

support them are actually trying to change the law or use loopholes to enable them to get through the modern slavery provisions are certainly the types of clauses that have been introduced by the government to deal with that particular loophole . but as david said, loophole. but as david said, there will be losers to this. there will be genuine people who are facing the modern slavery issues that that come over that might difficulty . so might have more difficulty. so that's the great balance that is why you have legal teams of both sides, and that's why the government have barristers government must have barristers and solicitors who represent them in the government legal department or who they outsource it to that can challenge law it to that can challenge the law and ensure that it is read in the way that parliament intends and ensure that it is read in thto vay that parliament intends and ensure that it is read in thto be. okay. rliament intends and ensure that it is read in thto be. okay. stephen intends and ensure that it is read in thto be. okay. stephen davidis it to be. okay. stephen david merttoret— it to be. okay. stephen david mentioned an— e okay. stephen david mentioned an excellent point there— mentioned an excellent point there ehout— mentioned an excellent point there about how— mentioned an excellent point there about how it's unlikely the— there about how it's unlikely thte wttt— there about how it's unlikely thte wttt tet— there about how it's unlikely this will get dealt with in this term — this will get dealt with in this term ot— this will get dealt with in this term of government anyway. there etmrtw— term of government anyway. there etmrtw her-t— term of government anyway. there simply isn't enough— term of government anyway. there simply isn't enough time before the tereret— simply isn't enough time before the general election, but how tmrortert— the general election, but how important politically is this , important politically is this, sterher,— important politically is this, stephenu tor— important politically is this, stephen, for the conservative party— stephen, for the conservative rertw ee— stephen, for the conservative rertw ee thew— stephen, for the conservative party as they talk tough, but thew— party as they talk tough, but thew tettet— party as they talk tough, but they failed to _ party as they talk tough, but they failed to control the hortere— they failed to control the borders i if _ they failed to control the borders if don't do borders? if they don't do eomethtrt— borders? if they don't do something now, surely the

wrtttrt-e— something now, surely the writing's-wall- something now, surely the writings wall for them. writing's on the wall for them. thew-re— they're finished. it's incredibly _ they're finished. it's incredibly and incredibly difficult and essential for them to actually succeed in at least trying to pass this legislation before summer some action . we summer and get some action. we do know sevilla braverman do know that sevilla braverman has said that once the bill has passed the and he's now passed the lords and he's now enacted in law, that she will try move planes off to try and move planes off to rwanda echr . and rwanda and ignore the echr. and i think the reason they're doing that metrics. there are that is for metrics. there are two points to this. first of all is that it's known that the immigration issue and the channel boats is playing really well on on the election that we're seeing at the moment in the local elections . but it's the local elections. but it's also well for who also playing well for those who are in the north, the midlands and called the red and the what's called the red wall, that the wall, who are seeing that the government to government is attempting to do so. is why also saw so. and that is why you also saw rishi talking to maloney, rishi sunak talking to maloney, the or prime minister the president or prime minister of italy , because she is also of italy, because she is also tough on immigration . they're tough on immigration. they're trying to put metrics out so that gives good impression trying to put metrics out so that they're good impression trying to put metrics out so that they're doing d impression trying to put metrics out so that they're doing theipression trying to put metrics out so that they're doing theipresand that they're doing the job. and labour won't. okay . thank that they're doing the job. and labour won't. okay. thank you uerw— labour won't. okay. thank you uerw much— labour won't. okay. thank you very much, stephen— t rtrzzrh 0 okay. thank you very much, stephen wolf and newt.— very much, stephen wolf and heutt. rew— very much, stephen wolf and david. hey, thanks for joining us david. hey, thanks for joining

ue totew. — david. hey, thanks for joining us today. excellent debate. thert— us today. excellent debate. thert-e- us today. excellent debate. thank-a good. us today. excellent debate. . thank-a good one. thank you. have a good one. thtrt— thank you. have a good one. thertl etew.— thank you. have a good one. thank-. okay. you're- thank you. have a good one. he

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to break out more widely as we go to break out more widely as we to-the— to break out more widely as we to-the tew— to break out more widely as we go the day sunday. go through the day on sunday. stru— go through the day on sunday. still-south—east- still the south—east of england hotttrt—ot- still the south—east of england holding—of the. holding on to the best of the eurehtre— holding on to the best of the sunshine-staying- holding on to the best of the sunshine staying generally sunshine and staying generally dry sunshine and staying generally trw—throuth- sunshine and staying generally dry—through into. dry here. i think through into the afternoon.— dry here. i think through into the afternoon. but say, the afternoon. but as i say, eome-heeuw- the afternoon. but as i say, some heavy downpours some quite heavy downpours deveiopin9r_ developing, particularly across wortherr— developing, particularly acrossi northern—into northern ireland as we go into surtew— northern ireland as we go into sunday afternoon— northern ireland as we go into sunday afternoon the sunshine sunday afternoon in the sunshine towerte— sunday afternoon in the sunshine towerte the— sunday afternoon in the sunshine towards the south— sunday afternoon in the sunshine towards the south with the highs of towards the south with the highs ot rt— towards the south with the highs ot rt to — towards the south with the highs ot rt to re,— towards the south with the highs of 17 to 18, locally,— of 17 to 18, locally, 19 tetreee— of 17 to 18, locally, 19. degrees,-chilly degrees, but still chilly towerte— degrees, but still chilly towards north—east of towards the north—east of eeottert— towards the north—east of scotland and— towards the north—east of scotland and into the evening , scotland and into the evening, the—mttretel the showers tend to migrate thet— the showers tend to migrate their-eastwards- the showers tend to migrate their eastwards across the their way eastwards across the wt. — their way eastwards across the wt. lt— their way eastwards across the ut. lr thtrt— their way eastwards across the uk..i think even- their way eastwards across the uk. i think even the uk. so i think even the south—east— uk. so i think even thei south—east-to uk. so i think even the- south—east-to see south—east will start to see some developing as south—east will start to see - some _developing as we south—east will start to see - some-developing as we go some showers developing as we go through—whereas- through sunday night, whereas out through sunday night, whereas. out—ehowere out towards the west the showers wttt— out towards the west the showers wttt-eeee— out towards the west the showers wttt-eeee .— out towards the west the showers will-ease . we'll- out towards the west the showers will-ease . we'll see- will start to ease. we'll see some clearer— will start to ease. we'll see some clearer spells. but with will start to ease. we'll see sonfactearer spells. but with will start to ease. we'll see sonfact that spells. but with will start to ease. we'll see sonfact that there's but with will start to ease. we'll see sonfact that there's still with the fact that there's still a tetr— the fact that there's still a fair amount— the fact that there's still a fair amount cloud the fact that there's still a fair amount-cloud no fair amount of cloud around no wtth— fair amount of cloud around no issues with temperatures on surtew— issues with temperatures on- surtew—hotttrt issues with temperatures on- sundethe_holding issues with temperatures on sundethe range holding issues with temperatures on sundethe range 7 holding issues with temperatures on sundethe range 7 to holding issues with temperatures on sundethe range 7 to 10 holding issues with temperatures on sundethe range 7 to 10 degrees up in the range 7 to 10 degrees on up in the range 7 to 10 degrees or errtew— up in the range 7 to 10 degrees or errtew ,— up in the range 7 to 10 degrees on monday , bank— up in the range 7 to 10 degrees on monday , bank holiday monday, on monday, bank holiday monday, of on monday, bank holiday monday, ot the — on monday, bank holiday monday, of course, the focus— on monday, bank holiday monday, of course, the focus for the ehowee— of course, the focus for the ehowere-he — of course, the focus for the showers be towards of course, the focus for the showers-be towards east showers will be towards the east ert—trttert-

and south—east of england. atetm— and south—east of england. atetmlor— and south—east of england. again, or showers again, 1 or 2 heavy showers erourt— again, 1 or 2 heavy showers around here.— again, 1 or 2 heavy showers around here. some patchy rain towerte— around here. some patchy rain towards—scotland, towards the north of scotland, but towards the north of scotland, hut—httherl but elsewhere, with higher rreeeure—l but elsewhere, with higher rreeeure— we| but elsewhere, with higher- pressure _, we should pressure dominating, we should see pressure dominating, we should e tot— pressure dominating, we should e tot ot— pressure dominating, we should see a lot of fine— pressure dominating, we should see a lot of fine and settled weether— see a lot of fine and settled weather temperatures see a lot of fine and settled weather quitetmperatures see a lot of fine and settled weather quitetmperainto. climbing quite nicely into the her— climbing quite nicely into the htth teere— climbing quite nicely into the high teens and— climbing quite nicely into the high teens and we hold on to rtertw— high teens and we hold on to plenty-weather- high teens and we hold on to plenty weather across plenty of fine weather across the—or - plenty of fine weather across. the—on tuesday the bulk of the uk on tuesday ert— the bulk of the uk on tuesday and wednesday— the bulk of the uk on tuesday and wednesday further warm and wednesday with further warm eurehtre—

radio. good ttetto- good afternoon. tetho— good afternoon. it's ttetto— good afternoon. it's 1230. tetho— good afternoon. it's 1230. this is good afternoon. it's 1230. this he the— good afternoon. it's 1230. this he the teteet— good afternoon. it's 1230. this is the latest from _ good afternoon. it's 1230. this is the latest from the newsroom. the— is the latest from the newsroom. the teetttre— is the latest from the newsroom. the deadline for— is the latest from the newsroom. the deadline for british nationals— the deadline for british nationals to— the deadline for british nationals to reach the evacuation _ nationals to reach the evacuation .- nationals to reach the evacuation . an airfield in sudan evacuation. an airfield in sudan has evacuation. an airfield in sudan hee ow— evacuation. an airfield in sudan has now passed.— evacuation. an airfield in sudan has now passed. it— evacuation. an airfield in sudan has now passed. it comes as thet— has now passed. it comes as final evacuation— has now passed. it comes as final evacuation flight out of suter— final evacuation flight out of suter wttt— final evacuation flight out of sudan will take— final evacuation flight out of sudan will take place later totew— sudan will take place later totew .— sudan will take place later today - deputy— sudan will take place later today . deputy prime minister today. deputy prime minister ether— today. deputy prime minister oliver dowden_ today. deputy prime minister oliver dowden will chair a cobra meettrt— oliver dowden will chair a cobra meettrt thre— oliver dowden will chair a cobra meeting this afternoon to theme— meeting this afternoon to discuss the _ meeting this afternoon to discuss the security situation in discuss the security situation tr thertoum— discuss the security situation in khartoum in— discuss the security situation in khartoum in advance of the thet— in khartoum in advance of the ttret thtrt— in khartoum in advance of the final flight. taking off at aer-oe— final flight. taking off at tooe pm — final flight. taking off at aooe pm ut— final flight. taking off at £0.06 pm uk time. final flight. taking off at £0.06 pm uk time . so far, £0.06 pm uk time. so far, hrttteh— £0.06 pm uk time. so far, british forces— £0.06 pm uk time. so far, british forces have rescued more ther— british forces have rescued more ther rsoo— british forces have rescued more than 1500 people,— british forces have rescued more than 1500 people, but hundreds heue— than 1500 people, but hundreds

heue heer— than 1500 people, but hundreds have been killed— than 1500 people, but hundreds have been killed and tens of thoueerte— have been killed and tens of thousands have— have been killed and tens of thousands have fled for their ttuee. — thousands have fled for their ttuee. tr— thousands have fled for their ttuee. h e— thousands have fled for their lives. in a power— thousands have fled for their lives. in a power struggle tetweer— lives. in a power struggle between the _ lives. in a power struggle between the army and the reremtttterw— between the army and the paramilitary great ormond street roerttet— paramilitary great ormond street roerttet hee— paramilitary great ormond street hospital has been— paramilitary great ormond street hospital has been granted eoemrttore— hospital has been granted exemptions to— hospital has been granted exemptions to keep nurses worttrt— exemptions to keep nurses working during upcoming strike eettom— working during upcoming strike eettor. the— working during upcoming strike action. the children's hospital eerreeeet— action. the children's hospital expressed concerns about etetttrt— expressed concerns about etetttrt ee— expressed concerns about staffing as royal college of wuretrt— staffing as royal college of nursing staff— staffing as royal college of nursing staff prepared to walk out.— nursing staff prepared to walk out. ttcw — nursing staff prepared to walk out. rcn members will go on etrtte— out. rcn members will go on etrtte trom — out. rcn members will go on strike from 8— out. rcn members will go on strike from 8 pm. tomorrow urttt— strike from 8 pm. tomorrow urttt errtew— strike from 8 pm. tomorrow until monday evening. health woreret— until monday evening. health workers belonging to the gmb uror— workers belonging to the gmb union yesterday— workers belonging to the gmb union yesterday accepted a 5% pay— union yesterday accepted a 5% rew otter— union yesterday accepted a 5% rew otter trom — union yesterday accepted a 5% pay offer from the government . pay offer from the government. umor— pay offer from the government. union officials— pay offer from the government. union officials will now vote to eeeert— union officials will now vote to eeeert the — union officials will now vote to accept the offer— union officials will now vote to accept the offer at— union officials will now vote to accept the offer at a meeting of the wus— accept the offer at a meeting of the nhs staff— accept the offer at a meeting of the nhs staff council next week . tehour— the nhs staff council next week . tehour te— the nhs staff council next week . labour is promising to invest in more teachers— . labour is promising to invest in more teachers who are ereetettete— in more teachers who are specialists in— in more teachers who are specialists in their subject if thew— specialists in their subject if thew wh— specialists in their subject if thew wtr the— specialists in their subject if they win the next general eteettor— they win the next general eteettor .— they win the next general election . it— they win the next general election . it comes as the labour election. it comes as the labour eretwete— election. it comes as the labour eretwete ot— election. it comes as the labour analysis of government figures eutteete— analysis of government figures eutteete thet— analysis of government figures suggests that there are gaps in expert— suggests that there are gaps in expert teeehtrt— suggests that there are gaps in expert teaching provision in etete— expert teaching provision in state schools— expert teaching provision in state schools across england . state schools across england. shetow— state schools across england. shadow education secretary hrtttet— shadow education secretary bridget phillipson says schools are scrambled— bridget phillipson says schools are scrambled to— bridget phillipson says schools are scrambled to fill roles, meertrt— are scrambled to fill roles, meaning there— are scrambled to fill roles, meaning there aren't high eterterte—

meaning there aren't high standards for— meaning there aren't high standards for all children . in standards for all children. in art— standards for all children. in art three— standards for all children. in and three new— standards for all children. in and three new photographs of the the— and three new photographs of the the ert— and three new photographs of the king ert the— and three new photographs of the king and the queen consort have teer— king and the queen consort have teer reteeeet— king and the queen consort have been released ahead of next weet-e— been released ahead of next week's coronation. the images teter— week's coronation. the images teter tr— week's coronation. the images were taken in the— week's coronation. the images were taken in the palace's blue trewtrt— were taken in the palace's blue trewtrt oom— were taken in the palace's blue drawing room last— were taken in the palace's blue drawing room last month. one ehowe— drawing room last month. one ehowe the— drawing room last month. one shows the couple _ drawing room last month. one shows the couple standing side by shows the couple standing side hw ette— shows the couple standing side hw ette tr— shows the couple standing side by side in front— shows the couple standing side by side in front of— shows the couple standing side by side in front of a portrait of by side in front of a portrait ot the— by side in front of a portrait of king george,— by side in front of a portrait of king george, the fifth at his cororettor— of king george, the fifth at his coronation in— of king george, the fifth at his coronation in 1911.— of king george, the fifth at his coronation in 1911. another ehowe— coronation in 1911. another shows charles— coronation in 1911. another shows charles and camilla individually— shows charles and camilla individually with the queen oeort— individually with the queen consort, wearing the late oueee— consort, wearing the late queen's pearl— consort, wearing the late queen's pearl drop earrings , tv queen's pearl drop earrings, tv erttre— queen's pearl drop earrings, tv erttre retr— queen's pearl drop earrings, tv online dab+ radio and on tune in. online dab+ radio and on tune tr. toure— online dab+ radio and on tune tr. toure wtth— online dab+ radio and on tune in. you're with gb— online dab+ radio and on tune in. you're with gb news. now rte— in. you're with gb news. now he teet— in. you're with gb news. now he teet to— in. you're with gb news. now he teet to .— it's back to. martin ert— it's back to. martin and thank- it's back to. martin and thank you, tatiana. it's back to. martin— and thank you, tatiana. welcome teet— and thank you, tatiana. welcome pet to— and thank you, tatiana. welcome pet to or— and thank you, tatiana. welcome back to gb news saturday with me, martin daubney on your tv onune me, martin daubney on your tv online and on your digital radio . millions of cars are expected on our roads as people get away for the bank holiday weekend. the rac predicts more than 17

million trips will be made by car over the weekend with drivers warned to expect road congestion as usual. network rail passengers are also warned to expect disruption thanks to planned engineering works. our east midlands reporter will hollis has all the details . hollis has all the details. it's a busy weekend for people thet— it's a busy weekend for people thet ee— it's a busy weekend for people thet torre— it's a busy weekend for people that are going to— it's a busy weekend for people that are going to try and get ewew— that are going to try and get ewew tor— that are going to try and get ewew tor the— that are going to try and get away for the bank holiday, but there— away for the bank holiday, but there he— away for the bank holiday, but there he e— away for the bank holiday, but there is a double— away for the bank holiday, but there is a double bank holiday in there is a double bank holiday hr the— there is a double bank holiday tr thte pert— there is a double bank holiday tr thte pert ot— there is a double bank holiday in this part of may. that's heuee— in this part of may. that's because next— in this part of may. that's because next week we've got the the-e— because next week we've got the king's coronation— because next week we've got the king's coronation fewer people wttt— king's coronation fewer people wttt he— king's coronation fewer people wttt he or— king's coronation fewer people will be on the— king's coronation fewer people will be on the roads because of thet.— will be on the roads because of thet. hut— will be on the roads because of thet. hut rte— will be on the roads because of that. but it's still— will be on the roads because of that. but it's still 14 million peopte— that. but it's still 14 million peopler slightly— that. but it's still 14 million people, slightly busier this weetert— people, slightly busier this weekend, 17— people, slightly busier this weekend, 17 million traffic tourrewe— weekend, 17 million traffic tourrewe tor— weekend, 17 million traffic journeys for leisure are going to he— journeys for leisure are going to he mete. — journeys for leisure are going to be made. so— journeys for leisure are going to be made. so that's specifically- to be made. so that's specifically people going to the eeeette— specifically people going to the eeeette or— specifically people going to the seaside or going— specifically people going to the seaside or going away to see temttw— seaside or going away to see family somewhere else in the uk, it's family somewhere else in the uk, tt-e rot— family somewhere else in the uk, tt-e rot r-uet— family somewhere else in the uk, tt-e rot tuet huew— family somewhere else in the uk, it's not just busy roads, though.— it's not just busy roads, though. there's also going to be tutte— though. there's also going to be tutte e— though. there's also going to be tutte e tew— though. there's also going to be quite a few delays— though. there's also going to be quite a few delays on the on the rettwewe. — quite a few delays on the on the railways. that's— quite a few delays on the on the railways. that's because network tet— railways. that's because network tett hee— railways. that's because network rail has planned— railways. that's because network rail has planned 600 different eerte— rail has planned 600 different events, different— rail has planned 600 different events, different maintenance eerte— events, different maintenance eerte the— events, different maintenance events. the biggest of which is at events. the biggest of which is et tortom— events. the biggest of which is at london, euston_ events. the biggest of which is

at london, euston station, heuee— at london, euston station, because they've closed the etettor— because they've closed the station completely on sunday. so it's station completely on sunday. so he torre— station completely on sunday. so he totrt to— station completely on sunday. so he totrt to he— station completely on sunday. so it's going to be quite busy . the it's going to be quite busy. the etutee— it's going to be quite busy. the advice, though,— it's going to be quite busy. the advice, though, for people that are travelling _ advice, though, for people that are travelling is— advice, though, for people that are travelling is of course to mete— are travelling is of course to make sure that— are travelling is of course to make sure that you're prepared in make sure that you're prepared tr wheteuer— make sure that you're prepared in whatever way— make sure that you're prepared in whatever way you need necessary . well, bank holiday necessary. well, bank holiday wouttr-t— necessary. well, bank holiday wouttr-t te— necessary. well, bank holiday wouldn't be a— necessary. well, bank holiday wouldn't be a bank holiday wtthout— wouldn't be a bank holiday without traffic. \r g without traffic. nightmare, would it? so conservative mp bob seely sat down with gloria de piero in her latest interview. he explains why he believes harry and meghan should be stripped of their titles. let's have watch at that. if have a little watch at that. if you're the duke of sussex or the duke and duchess of sussex, i just find it very uncomfortable. and huge number of and i think a huge number of wour— and i think a huge number of wour-woutt- and i think a huge number of your-would agree- and i think a huge number of your would agree that your viewers would agree that you— your viewers would agree that wou etther— your viewers would agree that you either respect the system, you— you either respect the system, wou heue— you either respect the system, wou heue wour— you either respect the system, you have your titles, everyone eort— you have your titles, everyone eort ot— you have your titles, everyone eort ot totte— you have your titles, everyone sort of doffs a— you have your titles, everyone sort of doffs a hat— you have your titles, everyone sort of doffs a hat , especially sort of doffs a hat, especially in sort of doffs a hat, especially hr the— sort of doffs a hat, especially hr the us. — sort of doffs a hat, especially in the us. you— sort of doffs a hat, especially in the us. you respect the ewetem. — in the us. you respect the ewetem. tou— in the us. you respect the system. you keep your titles and ether— system. you keep your titles and etther wou— system. you keep your titles and etther wou play— system. you keep your titles and etther wou ptew e— system. you keep your titles and either you play a positive role as either you play a positive role ee e tot— either you play a positive role ee e tot ot— either you play a positive role as a lot of the— either you play a positive role as a lot of the roles do in this eourtrw— as a lot of the roles do in this eourtrw or— as a lot of the roles do in this eourtrw or wou— as a lot of the roles do in this country or you live— as a lot of the roles do in this country or you live quietly as individuals— country or you live quietly as individuals ,_ country or you live quietly as individuals, but— country or you live quietly as individuals , but you can't trade individuals, but you can't trade ert— individuals, but you can't trade ert treeh. — individuals, but you can't trade and trash. you— individuals, but you can't trade and trash. you can't trade on wour— and trash. you can't trade on wour rower— and trash. you can't trade on your royal status— and trash. you can't trade on your royal status whilst at the ttme— your royal status whilst at the same time trashing it. and so i

thtrt— same time trashing it. and so i thtrt tor— same time trashing it. and so i thtrt tor me— same time trashing it. and so i think for me, i— same time trashing it. and so i think for me, i just— same time trashing it. and so i think for me, i just think thet-e— think for me, i just think that's wrong— think for me, i just think that's wrong . - think for me, i just think that's wrong . g : think for me, i just think- that's wrong . strong words from that's wrong. strong words from bob and you can watch the full interview on gb news show , interview on gb news show, gloria meets where you'll find out who the person behind the politician and that's every politician is and that's every sunday at 6 pm. well well, you been getting in touch on our big topics of the day, eileen says this country is going to the dogs and yet some people think it's for to work from it's okay for them to work from home. cannot . so why should home. many cannot. so why should others so? we should all be others do so? we should all be pulling to make britain pulling together to make britain great again. and i was at great again. yet and i was at home yesterday with my kids and other and other teachers strike and there's one on tuesday. there's another one on tuesday. so it's a bank holiday for so it's a long bank holiday for the all right. for the teachers. all right. for some, it, david, on some, isn't it, david, on immigration says australia returned illegals within hours. why can't this happen in the uk ? you know, that's a great, great point, david. i think the point is the political will doesn't seem to be there. there's a lot tough, tough there's a lot of tough, tough talk. about actually talk. but what about actually some i think it's long some action? i think it's long overdue. that's what people voted for, take control voted for, to take back control of borders and as we said in of our borders and as we said in that earlier thing earlier

segment with steven wolf, if the lawyers the lawyers and the laws get in the way, be way, i think there's going to be another rebellion . ian another brexit rebellion. ian okay. followed up and said okay. peter followed up and said if these new laws get stopped again, be time for again, then it will be time for again, then it will be time for a new political party that will rip up laws do not rip up those laws that do not serve majority of the serve the majority of the british you know british people. you know something about all something i'm asked about all the time and where that new the time and where is that new party there? i think there's party out there? i think there's a vacuum in the labour party are silent on this. they seem to be letting the tories go to the dogs without having having to get want get involved. but people want strong politicians who are going to stand up the people. to stand up for the people. i totally that . next totally agree on that. next email from terence , who says email from terence, who says there won't be any school places left for british children if labour achieved power more labour achieved power just more unlimited mass immigration to overcrowd and overwhelm already stuffed to the rafters, schools and hospitals. that's a great point as well . we've already point as well. we've already seen that down in dover , seen that down in dover, especially a lot of schools there are getting full of people coming in from outside . and the coming in from outside. and the problem course, we problem there, of course, we have a multitude languages, have a multitude of languages, a multitude cultures. and multitude of cultures. and of

course , it means that people get course, it means that people get left behind . richard, on left behind. richard, on policing says, i will say this again . i know who the local again. i know who the local shoplifters drug dealers and takers , but i don't know who takers are, but i don't know who my local bobby is . and i see my local bobby is. and i see crime every day. but i never see a bobby good point. and we a local bobby good point. and we want more coppers all of us. we can agree on keep your can agree on that. keep your views in and please do views coming in and please do subscribe to our youtube channel. are, of course, at channel. we are, of course, at gb what you're watching gb news. what you're watching and listening to gb news saturday martin saturday with myself. martin daubney. more daubney. there's loads more coming today's show, coming up on today's show, including the upcoming nurses strikes will be cut short after health secretary steve barclay took legal action over the walkouts . but the rcn certainly walkouts. but the rcn certainly isn't going down without a fight

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tttttet-wext— on your tv online and on your digital- next story- on your tv online and on your digital next story now. digital radio. next story now. the— digital radio. next story now. the tettte— digital radio. next story now. the battle between the health seereterw— the battle between the health seereterw ert— the battle between the health secretary and the royal college of secretary and the royal college ot wuretrt— secretary and the royal college of nursing rages— secretary and the royal college of nursing rages on. the rcn wttt— of nursing rages on. the rcn wttt etete— of nursing rages on. the rcn will stage another walkout eterttrt— will stage another walkout starting tomorrow night, but the pterret— starting tomorrow night, but the pterret ae— starting tomorrow night, but the planned 48 hour— starting tomorrow night, but the planned 48 hour strike has been cut planned 48 hour strike has been out erort— planned 48 hour strike has been out ehort hw— planned 48 hour strike has been out ehort hw e— planned 48 hour strike has been cut short by a day— planned 48 hour strike has been cut short by a day after the her— cut short by a day after the htth court— cut short by a day after the high court ruled— cut short by a day after the high court ruled it was partly urtewtut— high court ruled it was partly unlawful. health secretary steve heretew— unlawful. health secretary steve heretew toot— unlawful. health secretary steve barclay took legal— unlawful. health secretary steve barclay took legal action over the hert— barclay took legal action over the bank holiday— barclay took legal action over the bank holiday industrial eettom— the bank holiday industrial action, which— the bank holiday industrial action, which was supposed to teet— action, which was supposed to teet urttt— action, which was supposed to last until tuesday— action, which was supposed to last until tuesday day. well, joining— last until tuesday day. well, joining me— last until tuesday day. well, joining me now— last until tuesday day. well, joining me now to discuss this is joining me now to discuss this he tuew— joining me now to discuss this is lucy johnston,— joining me now to discuss this is lucy johnston, health and is lucy johnston, the health and eoetet— is lucy johnston, the health and social affairs— is lucy johnston, the health and social affairs editor at the surtew— social affairs editor at the sunday express. hello to you, tuew— sunday express. hello to you, tuew .— sunday express. hello to you, tuew . therte— sunday express. hello to you, lucy . thanks for— sunday express. hello to you, lucy . thanks forjoining us. lucy. thanks forjoining us. thet— lucy. thanks forjoining us. first question,— lucy. thanks forjoining us. first question, this court case, is first question, this court case, he tt— first question, this court case, he tt eetuettw— first question, this court case, is it actually going to happen or re— is it actually going to happen or he tt— is it actually going to happen or he tt r-uet— is it actually going to happen or is it just more— is it actually going to happen or is it just more kind of brinksmanship and sabre rattling ? brinksmanship and sabre rattling a wet— brinksmanship and sabre rattling a wet. the— brinksmanship and sabre rattling ? well, the court— brinksmanship and sabre rattling ? well, the court case- brinksmanship and sabre rattling ? (all. a t brinksmanship and sabre rattling ? well, the court case is now done and some people have said that the nursing royal college of nurses knew that they wouldn't win the battle. so they were trying to strike— : h e h so they were trying to strike beyond thet— were trying to strike beyond their mandate— were trying to strike beyond their mandate . were trying to strike beyond their mandate. were trying to strike beyond their mandate . : their mandate. so into tuesday and, in fact, you know, some people have said that they took

the action or the college of nursing took the action just to wind up the nurses and sort of get more votes for the next ballot. and they will do another hettot— ballot. and they will do another tettot .— ballot. and they will do another tettot . thew— ballot. and they will do another ballot . they have— and they will do another ballot . they have said they will ballot. they have said they will do ballot. they have said they will to mother— ballot. they have said they will do another ballot— ballot. they have said they will do another ballot so it doesn't ert— do another ballot so it doesn't ert the— do another ballot so it doesn't end the strike.— do another ballot so it doesn't end the strike. in— do another ballot so it doesn't end the strike. in fact, it's tetrtw— end the strike. in fact, it's fairly distracting, really . ' hr: fairly distracting, really. and i fairly distracting, really. and renter— fairly distracting, really. and i wonder, actually,- fairly distracting, really. and i wonder, actually, you mentioned there about how this might change the opinion of nurses, but a really concerning thing that's come to light is , thing that's come to light is, is the great ormond street angle threats that children last week we heard cancer patients may not get critical care but now children may not get critical care . what do you think that care. what do you think that will do for the court of public opinion? well, it's not just treet— opinion? well, it's not just great ormond— h r:::rh7 well, it's not just great ormond street and chtttrer-e— great ormond street and children's care. there's cancer werte— children's care. there's cancer werte or— children's care. there's cancer wards or labour— children's care. there's cancer wards or labour wards, accident ert— wards or labour wards, accident ert emeraerew— wards or labour wards, accident and emergency, children's etertert— and emergency, children's accident emergency. all these life critical— accident emergency. all these life critical areas— accident emergency. all these life critical areas which the tower— life critical areas which the ttowet cottete— life critical areas which the royal college of nurses has said thew— royal college of nurses has said thew wort— royal college of nurses has said thew wor-t he— royal college of nurses has said they won't be providing an exeepttor— they won't be providing an exception for. _ they won't be providing an exception for. tr:

they won't be providing an exception for. ”ti: exception for. so they're not covering, however , just recently covering, however, just recently in the latest development , the in the latest development, the college has said that it will grant some local exemptions. so some mitigations on a trust- so some mitigations on a trust by truet— some mitigations on a trust by truet teete. — some mitigations on a trust by trust basis. but— some mitigations on a trust by trust basis. but that still means there— trust basis. but that still means there will be under etetttrt— means there will be under staffing and— means there will be under staffing and senior consultants ert— staffing and senior consultants ert wus— staffing and senior consultants ert wrs top— staffing and senior consultants and nhs top bosses have said to me thet— and nhs top bosses have said to me thet thew— and nhs top bosses have said to me that they believe lives will be me that they believe lives will he teet— me that they believe lives will he toet .— me that they believe lives will he toet . thre— me that they believe lives will be lost . this is— me that they believe lives will be lost . this is the me that they believe lives will be lost. this is the most terteroue— be lost. this is the most dangerous strike to date and whet— dangerous strike to date and whet peopte— dangerous strike to date and what people don't realise is thet— what people don't realise is thet the— what people don't realise is that the nurses— what people don't realise is that the nurses are and they mete— that the nurses are and they mete up— that the nurses are and they mete up e— that the nurses are and they make up a quarter of the worttoree— make up a quarter of the workforce, the— make up a quarter of the workforce, the nhs workforce , workforce, the nhs workforce, but workforce, the nhs workforce, tut thew— workforce, the nhs workforce, tut thew heue— workforce, the nhs workforce, but they have very highly teehrteet— but they have very highly technical skills that doctors r-uet— technical skills that doctors tuet eer-t— technical skills that doctors just can't replace, such as rurrtrt— just can't replace, such as running special- just can't replace, such as running special equipment , running special equipment, hreethtrt— running special equipment, breathing apparatus . they put up breathing apparatus. they put up the— breathing apparatus. they put up trtpe ert— breathing apparatus. they put up trtpe ert ur— breathing apparatus. they put up drips and run drips and dialysis and drips and run drips and dialysis ert tt— drips and run drips and dialysis ert tt eoutt— drips and run drips and dialysis and it could, you— drips and run drips and dialysis and it could, you know, it would tete— and it could, you know, it would tete eoe— and it could, you know, it would take some time— and it could, you know, it would take some time for— and it could, you know, it would take some time for doctors to teem— take some time for doctors to teem how— take some time for doctors to teem how to— take some time for doctors to learn how to do— take some time for doctors to learn how to do those things. so wtthout— learn how to do those things. so wtthout tt— learn how to do those things. so without if they're _ learn how to do those things. so without if they're short staffed

, peopte— without if they're short staffed , peopte wtt— without if they're short staffed , peopte wttt te— without if they're short staffed , people will be put at risk. so the— , people will be put at risk. so the rureee— , people will be put at risk. so the nurses, the— , people will be put at risk. so the nurses, the royal college of wuretrt— the nurses, the royal college of wuretrt ,— the nurses, the royal college of wuretrt , ot— the nurses, the royal college of nursing , of course, argues that nursing, of course, argues that thew— nursing, of course, argues that thew ee— nursing, of course, argues that thew doing— nursing, of course, argues that they are doing this because they hetteue— they are doing this because they believe patients— they are doing this because they believe patients are already being— believe patients are already being put— believe patients are already being put et— believe patients are already being put at risk because they tor-t— being put at risk because they tor-t heue— being put at risk because they don't have enough staff. so thew-re,— don't have enough staff. so they're wou — don't have enough staff. so they're, you know, playing their trump— they're, you know, playing their trump eert— they're, you know, playing their trump card, really. and what do surtew— trump card, really. and what do surtew topreee— trump card, really. and what do sunday express readers tell you etout— sunday express readers tell you etout thet— sunday express readers tell you about their what's— sunday express readers tell you about their what's their feeling towerte— about their what's their feeling towerte the— about their what's their feeling towards the nurses now? t towards the nurses now? because trtttettw— towards the nurses now? because trtttettw we— towards the nurses now? because initially we the public was very supportive of nurses. is that changing ? i think it's shifting changing? i think it's shifting a little bit. i think people are ewmpethette— a little bit. i think people are ewmpethette to— t e i think people are sympathetic to nurses more than perhepe— sympathetic to nurses more than perhepe the— sympathetic to nurses more than perhaps the junior— sympathetic to nurses more than perhaps the junior doctors who wtt— perhaps the junior doctors who wttt ert— perhaps the junior doctors who wttt ert up— perhaps the junior doctors who wttt ert up or— perhaps the junior doctors who will end up on on— perhaps the junior doctors who will end up on on large salaries ert— will end up on on large salaries ert wtt— will end up on on large salaries ert wttt ert— will end up on on large salaries and will end up,— will end up on on large salaries and will end up, you know, with wtth— and will end up, you know, with wtth e— and will end up, you know, with wtth e the— and will end up, you know, with with a big pension— and will end up, you know, with with a big pension and nurses , with a big pension and nurses, of course, don't— with a big pension and nurses, of course, don't have that sort of course, don't have that sort ot etete— of course, don't have that sort ot eeete teet— of course, don't have that sort of scale goal to— of course, don't have that sort of scale goal to work towards . of scale goal to work towards. art— of scale goal to work towards. art there— of scale goal to work towards. and there are— of scale goal to work towards. and there are stories in the preee— and there are stories in the preee ot— and there are stories in the press, of course,- and there are stories in the press, of course, about nurses torre— press, of course, about nurses tetra to— press, of course, about nurses aotra to toot— press, of course, about nurses going to food banks and not tetra— going to food banks and not tetra ette— going to food banks and not being able to— going to food banks and not being able to afford to even heet— being able to afford to even heet thet— being able to afford to even heat their homes and that sort of heat their homes and that sort ot thtra— heat their homes and that sort ot thtra. so— heat their homes and that sort of thing. so people feel very erarw— of thing. so people feel very

erarw etout— of thing. so people feel very angry about that. so i think the putte— angry about that. so i think the puttte te— angry about that. so i think the public is rather— angry about that. so i think the public is rather divided, but i thtrt— public is rather divided, but i thtrt the— public is rather divided, but i think the fact— public is rather divided, but i think the fact that patients twee— think the fact that patients ttuee wtt— think the fact that patients lives will be _ think the fact that patients lives will be put at risk, i thtrt— lives will be put at risk, i think some— lives will be put at risk, i think some people, some doctors are think some people, some doctors eewtra— think some people, some doctors eewtra to— think some people, some doctors eewtra to me— think some people, some doctors eewtra to me ,— think some people, some doctors are saying to me , you know, they are saying to me, you know, they eouttr-t— are saying to me, you know, they eouttr-t eteep— are saying to me, you know, they couldn't sleep at— are saying to me, you know, they couldn't sleep at night and put peopte— couldn't sleep at night and put peopte et— couldn't sleep at night and put peopte et het— couldn't sleep at night and put people at risk like that. so rte— people at risk like that. so he e— people at risk like that. so it's a difficult— people at risk like that. so it's a difficult ,_ people at risk like that. so it's a difficult , know, it's a difficult, know, difficult— it's a difficult, know, difficult to - it's a difficult, know, difficult to know where to where to i difficult to know where to where to r — difficult to know where to where to i mean, really,— difficult to know where to where to i mean, really, the government- to i mean, really, the government it's down to the aoemmet— government it's down to the government, isn't it, to they've r-uet— government, isn't it, to they've tuet aet— government, isn't it, to they've tuet aot to— government, isn't it, to they've tuet aot to ett— government, isn't it, to they've just got to sit down and sort the— just got to sit down and sort thte out— just got to sit down and sort this out because— just got to sit down and sort this out because it actually eer-t— this out because it actually eer-t ao— this out because it actually eer-t ao — this out because it actually can't go on. it's— this out because it actually can't go on. it's untenable . can't go on. it's untenable. okavr— can't go on. it's untenable. okavr tutu.— can't go on. it's untenable. okavr tuew. er— can't go on. it's untenable. okay, lucy, an extra- can't go on. it's untenable. okay, lucy, an extra element , an okay, lucy, an extra element, an extra plot twist in this last week. it was dominic raab who was accused of being a bully and now barclay been now steve barclay has also been accused being a bully. is accused of being a bully. is there any merit to that or is it just people you don't like? just people who you don't like? they're bullies ? i think that they're bullies? i think that stewe— they're bullies? i think that steve barclay— they're bullies? i think that steve barclay has- hr; ”ti: 7 ithink that steve barclay has negotiated verv— steve barclay has negotiated uerw hert— steve barclay has negotiated uerw hert ert— steve barclay has negotiated very hard and in— steve barclay has negotiated very hard and in good faith if he hee— very hard and in good faith if he hee to— very hard and in good faith if he has to work— very hard and in good faith if he has to work of— very hard and in good faith if he has to work of course with wumter— he has to work of course with wumter ro— he has to work of course with number 10 and— he has to work of course with number 10 and number 11 and he got number 10 and number 11 and he aot e— number 10 and number 11 and he got a pay— number 10 and number 11 and he aot e pew teet— number 10 and number 11 and he got a pay deal that— number 10 and number 11 and he got a pay deal that he thought was as much as— got a pay deal that he thought was as much as he could get know

he eert— was as much as he could get know he eert he— was as much as he could get know he can't, he doesn't— was as much as he could get know he can't, he doesn't have the morew— he can't, he doesn't have the morew tr— he can't, he doesn't have the morew hr the— he can't, he doesn't have the money in his hands. he can't, he doesn't have the money in his hands . and he money in his hands. and he tetteuet— money in his hands. and he believed that— money in his hands. and he believed that that was going to believed that that was going to te eeeeptet. — believed that that was going to be accepted. and— believed that that was going to be accepted. and it was indeed recommended. _ be accepted. and it was indeed recommended. and now he's you trow— recommended. and now he's you know, there-e— recommended. and now he's you know, there's nowhere else for htm— know, there's nowhere else for htm to— know, there's nowhere else for htm to ao— know, there's nowhere else for him to go, really.— know, there's nowhere else for him to go, really. he's he's put torwert— him to go, really. he's he's put torwert the— him to go, really. he's he's put torwert the pew— him to go, really. he's he's put forward the pay deal. and i tor-t— forward the pay deal. and i tor-t trow— forward the pay deal. and i don't know whether he's going to get don't know whether he's going to aet erw— don't know whether he's going to aet erw moe— don't know whether he's going to get any more money from the treeeurw— get any more money from the treeeurw-erw- get any more money from the treasury any more the treasury to offer any more the trtttet— treasury to offer any more the trtttet pew— treasury to offer any more the initial pay offer— treasury to offer any more the initial pay offer that the rcn eepeetet— initial pay offer that the rcn eopeetet wee— initial pay offer that the rcn expected was an— initial pay offer that the rcn expected was an eye—watering the. — expected was an eye—watering the. rt— expected was an eye—watering rte. rt we— expected was an eye—watering 17.5. it was actually- expected was an eye—watering 17.5. c t h r: 17.5. it was actually higher than that initially, i think it was a 25. is there any sign that they're going to get in the real world and actually come back more towards the government's position they just position on or are they just going in forever? it's going to dig in forever? it's hard to know, isn't it? i mean , hard to know, isn't it? i mean, there is hard to know, isn't it? i mean, there he aorra— hard to know, isn't it? i mean, there is going to— hard to know, isn't it? i mean, there is going to be,- hard to know, isn't it? i mean, there is going to be, you- her: e c7 i mean, there is going to be, you know , there is going to be, you know, ot— there is going to be, you know, ot the— there is going to be, you know, some of the unions have otutouetw— some of the unions have obviously already agreed with the— obviously already agreed with thte emourt — obviously already agreed with this amount. and they've you paw,— this amount. and they've you know, etoppet— this amount. and they've you know, stopped striking. so i thtrt— know, stopped striking. so i thtrt the— know, stopped striking. so i think the there's a fracturing of nurses now— think the there's a fracturing of nurses now and i think the aouerrmert— of nurses now and i think the government may— of nurses now and i think the government may use that to try ert— government may use that to try ert puer— government may use that to try and push forward— government may use that to try and push forward and get this

eetttet— and push forward and get this settled once— and push forward and get this settled once and— and push forward and get this settled once and for all, teeuee— settled once and for all, because they're not the nurses eert— because they're not the nurses eert ett— because they're not the nurses aren't all agreed.— because they're not the nurses aren't all agreed. so it's ttttteutt— aren't all agreed. so it's difficult to _ aren't all agreed. so it's difficult to know what's what's tetra— difficult to know what's what's tetra eett— difficult to know what's what's being said behind the scenes. tut— being said behind the scenes. tut eertetrtw— being said behind the scenes. tut eertetrtw ,— being said behind the scenes. but certainly , you know, there but certainly, you know, there to — but certainly, you know, there to te — but certainly, you know, there seem to be 2—2_ but certainly, you know, there seem to be 2—2 sides to it wtthtr— seem to be 2—2 sides to it wtthtr the— seem to be 2—2 sides to it within the nursing union itself. pea.— within the nursing union itself. teeh rte— within the nursing union itself. teeh tt-e e— within the nursing union itself. yeah, it's a great— within the nursing union itself. yeah, it's a great point. arty yeah, it's a great point. lucy, the— yeah, it's a great point. lucy, the them— yeah, it's a great point. lucy, the unison have— yeah, it's a great point. lucy, the unison have accepted the offer. the gmb have accepted the offer. the gmb have accepted the offer . so is offer. the gmb have accepted the offer. so is this kind of internal factional element to this? you think, going to put more more pressure on the rcn just to put in line and get this deau just to put in line and get this dealt with? it is it's hard to say. i mean, in fact, you would thtrt— say. i mean, in fact, you would thtrt eo— say. i mean, in fact, you would thtrt tut— say. i mean, in fact, you would think so, but the— i mean, in fact, you would think so, but the way they're teheutra — think so, but the way they're teheutra te— think so, but the way they're behaving is just— think so, but the way they're behaving is just sort of even more bullish.— behaving is just sort of even more bullish. so— behaving is just sort of even more bullish. so it feels like , more bullish. so it feels like, you— more bullish. so it feels like, wou trow,— more bullish. so it feels like, wou paw, thew— more bullish. so it feels like, you know, they took the legal eettor— you know, they took the legal eettor to — you know, they took the legal eettor to trw— you know, they took the legal action to try and— you know, they took the legal action to try and go into strike eettor— action to try and go into strike eettor tewort— action to try and go into strike action beyond their mandate and thet— action beyond their mandate and thet ,— action beyond their mandate and thet , wou— action beyond their mandate and thet , wou trow,— action beyond their mandate and that , you know, they use that that, you know, they use that the— that, you know, they use that the hue— that, you know, they use that the nurses got— that, you know, they use that the nurses got very angry that the nurses got very angry that the government— the nurses got very angry that the government even took them to court— the government even took them to eourt etout— the government even took them to eourt etout rt.— the government even took them to court about it. you— the government even took them to court about it. you know, they woutt— court about it. you know, they woutt eraue— court about it. you know, they would argue that— court about it. you know, they would argue that they worked throuah— would argue that they worked through c0v10._ would argue that they worked through covid. they put themselves— through covid. they put themselves on the line that they tor-t—

themselves on the line that they tor-t heue— themselves on the line that they don't have enough— themselves on the line that they don't have enough staff to run the eerutee— don't have enough staff to run the service safely— don't have enough staff to run the service safely and that wtthout— the service safely and that without doing _ the service safely and that without doing everything they thew— without doing everything they can, they don't— without doing everything they can, they don't believe that thew— can, they don't believe that thew eer— can, they don't believe that they can function properly. so thew— they can function properly. so thew thew— they can function properly. so thew thew ee— they can function properly. so they they are playing everything thew— they they are playing everything thew eer— they they are playing everything thew to— they they are playing everything thew to to— they they are playing everything they can to do what they believe is they can to do what they believe he tr— they can to do what they believe he tr thew— they can to do what they believe he tr thew thew— they can to do what they believe is in they they say,— they can to do what they believe is in they they say, the petrert-e— is in they they say, the patient's best- is in they they say, the patient's best interests . you patient's best interests. you paw,— patient's best interests. you trow, thew— patient's best interests. you know, they claim that there's rot— know, they claim that there's rot erouah— know, they claim that there's not enough staff— know, they claim that there's not enough staff staff to run the— not enough staff staff to run the eerutee— not enough staff staff to run the service safely. and so urteee— the service safely. and so urteee thew— the service safely. and so unless they can recruit more etett— unless they can recruit more etett tw— unless they can recruit more etett tw aetttra— unless they can recruit more staff by getting better pay , staff by getting better pay, ther— staff by getting better pay, ther thew— staff by getting better pay, then they will— staff by getting better pay, then they will continue to not the — then they will continue to not run the service— then they will continue to not run the service safely . but at run the service safely. but at the— run the service safely. but at the ee— run the service safely. but at the same time,— run the service safely. but at the same time, steve barclay's erautra— the same time, steve barclay's arguingr wett— the same time, steve barclay's arguingr wett ,— the same time, steve barclay's arguing, well , they don't have arguing, well, they don't have erouah— arguing, well, they don't have erouah morew— arguing, well, they don't have enough money in— arguing, well, they don't have enough money in the pot to pay them— enough money in the pot to pay them moe— enough money in the pot to pay them .— enough money in the pot to pay them . rt— enough money in the pot to pay them more . it will— enough money in the pot to pay them more . it will be them more. it will be inflationary,- them more. it will be inflationary, he says, to give them — inflationary, he says, to give them eer— inflationary, he says, to give them even more— inflationary, he says, to give them even more and that, you paw,— them even more and that, you trow, thew-tt— them even more and that, you know, they'll be— them even more and that, you know, they'll be putting lives at know, they'll be putting lives et het— know, they'll be putting lives et rtet hart— know, they'll be putting lives at risk right now— know, they'll be putting lives at risk right now by doing what thew-re— at risk right now by doing what thew-re terra— at risk right now by doing what thew-re tetra . — at risk right now by doing what they're doing . k at risk right now by doing what they're doing . 3c arty they're doing. erg okay, lucy johnston, thank you for joining us afternoon on gb news. us this afternoon on gb news. okay. from one right royal mess to another now, the king's ancestors own slaves. according to new research archive. documents have revealed that

direct ancestors of king charles and the royal family bought and enslaved people on tobacco plantations in virginia. joining me now is former royal correspondent for the sun . and correspondent for the sun. and all round right, royal legend charles rea. charles it's always a pleasure and never a chore in a pleasure and never a chore in a way. charles this is a can of worms that the king opened himself. he said that he would deal with slavery and its links to the royal family. can you tell us about the details of this letter and the direct connection to the royal family, please? i can and it's absolute rubbish , martin, to be perfectly rubbish, martin, to be perfectly honest, in the short term, this there's been some research by there's been some research by the guardian which seems to want to get involved in self—flagellation over its own links with slavery. there owners had links with slavery. there owners het ttrte— links with slavery. there owners had links with— links with slavery. there owners had links with edward- c hee/er ”yr there owners had links with edward colston , had links with edward colston, the eeuert— had links with edward colston, the slaver whose _ had links with edward colston, the slaver whose statue, if you remember , was pulled down. now, remember, was pulled down. now, this remember, was pulled down. now, thte teteet— remember, was pulled down. now, this latest piece— remember, was pulled down. now, this latest piece of— remember, was pulled down. now, this latest piece of document ehowe— this latest piece of document ehowe .— this latest piece of document ehowe . thet— this latest piece of document shows . that 200— this latest piece of document shows . that 200 slaves were sent

shows. that 200 slaves were sent to the— shows. that 200 slaves were sent to the plantation— shows. that 200 slaves were sent to the plantation in— shows. that 200 slaves were sent to the plantation in virginia , to the plantation in virginia, owret— to the plantation in virginia, owret tw— to the plantation in virginia, owned by edward porteus . now, owned by edward porteus. now, two eerurteet— owned by edward porteus. now, two centuries later,— owned by edward porteus. now, two centuries later, to eerurteet— two centuries later, to centuries later , about 1830 and centuries later, about 1830 and a centuries later, about 1830 and e treet— centuries later, about 1830 and a direct descendant , frances a direct descendant, frances tore— a direct descendant, frances tore smtth— a direct descendant, frances dora smith, who— a direct descendant, frances dora smith, who was born 30 veere— dora smith, who was born 30 weere etter— dora smith, who was born 30 years after the _ dora smith, who was born 30 years after the abolition of eteuerw— years after the abolition of eteuerw tr— years after the abolition of slavery in this— years after the abolition of slavery in this country, married cteute— slavery in this country, married claude bowes—lyon . that'll be claude bowes—lyon. that'll be a teue— claude bowes—lyon. that'll be a famous name. and— claude bowes—lyon. that'll be a famous name. and they were the pererte— famous name. and they were the pererte ot— famous name. and they were the pererte ot our— famous name. and they were the parents of our dearly departed oueer— parents of our dearly departed queen mother— parents of our dearly departed queen mother who is king chertee-e— queen mother who is king charles's grandfather, grand mother.— charles's grandfather, grand mother. art— charles's grandfather, grand mother. and so— charles's grandfather, grand mother. and so that's the link. tut— mother. and so that's the link. tut to— mother. and so that's the link. tut to eew— mother. and so that's the link. but to say that— mother. and so that's the link. but to say that edward porteus hee— but to say that edward porteus hee e— but to say that edward porteus hee e tht— but to say that edward porteus hee e ttrt ,— but to say that edward porteus has a link , he— but to say that edward porteus has a link , he has ten degrees has a link, he has ten degrees of has a link, he has ten degrees or eeperettor— has a link, he has ten degrees of separation to— has a link, he has ten degrees of separation to the king. so i thtrt— of separation to the king. so i thtrt rte— of separation to the king. so i think it's stretching a point to say— think it's stretching a point to eew thet— think it's stretching a point to eew thet he— think it's stretching a point to eew thet he he— think it's stretching a point to say that he is linked either teaettw— say that he is linked either teaettw or— say that he is linked either legally or biologically to the thra— legally or biologically to the ttra. art— legally or biologically to the ttra. art wou— legally or biologically to the king. and you have to remember thet— king. and you have to remember thet ee— king. and you have to remember thet ee wett— king. and you have to remember that as well, that— king. and you have to remember that as well, that we had prince attem— that as well, that we had prince attert, who— that as well, that we had prince albert, who was— that as well, that we had prince albert, who was married to queen hetero— albert, who was married to queen vpaana, who— albert, who was married to queen victoria, who himself was an ertr—eteue— victoria, who himself was an anti—slave campaigner and helped thra— anti—slave campaigner and helped trtra etout— anti—slave campaigner and helped trtra etout the— anti—slave campaigner and helped bring about the end— anti—slave campaigner and helped bring about the end of slavery in bring about the end of slavery hr the— bring about the end of slavery

in this country— bring about the end of slavery in this country. _ bring about the end of slavery in this country. bring about the end of slavery in this country . ole/{ear an; in this country. okay. we know that the guardian are deploying the woke screen. so to speak. you're right, they have their own links to slavery. they also are avowed anti monarchists. no surprises there is this, however, a bigger conversation about reparations is. do you think there could be a position in the future where prince charles may dig into his own personal fortune to try and buy off his historical links to slavery ? i hope he doesn't. slavery? i hope he doesn't. arerttr— slavery? i hope he doesn't. arerttr r— slavery? i hope he doesn't. martin i mean,— 37 i hope he doesn't. martin i mean, simply because eteuerw— martin i mean, simply because slavery happened— martin i mean, simply because slavery happened a long, long ttme— slavery happened a long, long ttme eao— slavery happened a long, long time ago, there— slavery happened a long, long time ago, there isn't one person in time ago, there isn't one person hr the— time ago, there isn't one person tr thte eourtrw— time ago, there isn't one person in this country who— time ago, there isn't one person in this country who thinks that eteuerw— in this country who thinks that eteuerw wee— in this country who thinks that eteuerw e— in this country who thinks that slavery was a good thing. it was ethorrert— slavery was a good thing. it was ethorrert .— slavery was a good thing. it was ethorrert . rt— slavery was a good thing. it was abhorrent . it was— slavery was a good thing. it was abhorrent . it was terrible. it's abhorrent. it was terrible. it's abhorrent. it was terrible. it's e reettw— abhorrent. it was terrible. it's e reettw tet— abhorrent. it was terrible. it's a really bad part— abhorrent. it was terrible. it's a really bad part of our htetorw— a really bad part of our history. but— a really bad part of our history. but we used to send ehtttrer— history. but we used to send ehtttrer up— history. but we used to send children up chimney stacks as wet— children up chimney stacks as wet .— children up chimney stacks as wet . we— children up chimney stacks as well . we don't— children up chimney stacks as well . we don't do that anymore. well. we don't do that anymore. are we— well. we don't do that anymore. are we aorra— well. we don't do that anymore. are we aorra to— well. we don't do that anymore. are we going to are we going to eort— are we going to are we going to eort ot— are we going to are we going to eort ot heue— are we going to are we going to sort of have reparation all sort of have reparation for all thet— sort of have reparation for all thet-eture— sort of have reparation for all that-stuff? now,- sort of have reparation for all that stuff? now, the that sort of stuff? now, the thra— that sort of stuff? now, the ttra—trowl that sort of stuff? now, the ttra—trow tei king himself, you know, is teete— king himself, you know, is treete the— king himself, you know, is treats the question of slavery extremetw— treats the question of slavery extremely seriously and eoreteret— extremely seriously and considers it,— extremely seriously and considers it, you know, a horrttte— considers it, you know, a horrible crime.- considers it, you know, a horrible crime. he has got the rover— horrible crime. he has got the rowet the— horrible crime. he has got the royal the links— horrible crime. he has got the royal the links now to a not an traueet—

royal the links now to a not an traueet ,— royal the links now to a not an traueet , tut— royal the links now to a not an inquest, but an— royal the links now to a not an inquest, but an investigation hto— inquest, but an investigation trto ttrte— inquest, but an investigation into links between the royal temttw— into links between the royal temttw ert— into links between the royal family and slavery. now, it's a tera— family and slavery. now, it's a longr tera— family and slavery. now, it's a longr longr tera— family and slavery. now, it's a long, long, long running inaya investigation.— long, long, long running inaya investigation. and we won't even trow— investigation. and we won't even trow the— investigation. and we won't even know the result— investigation. and we won't even know the result of— investigation. and we won't even know the result of that till rourt — know the result of that till round about— know the result of that till round about 2026. so both he and the three— round about 2026. so both he and the three ot— round about 2026. so both he and the prince of wales,— round about 2026. so both he and the prince of wales, the current three— the prince of wales, the current three ot— the prince of wales, the current prince of wales,— the prince of wales, the current prince of wales, have expressed thet— prince of wales, have expressed thetr etreee— prince of wales, have expressed their sadness over— prince of wales, have expressed their sadness over over slavery. tut— their sadness over over slavery. tut r— their sadness over over slavery. tut r thtrt— their sadness over over slavery. but i think we— their sadness over over slavery. but i think we should spend more ttme— but i think we should spend more ttme ert— but i think we should spend more ttme ert morew— but i think we should spend more time and money investigating meter— time and money investigating meter tew— time and money investigating modern day slavery. we've got meter— modern day slavery. we've got meter tew— modern day slavery. we've got modern day slavery. we've got modern day slavery going on in the— modern day slavery going on in thte eourtrw— modern day slavery going on in thte eourtrw et— modern day slavery going on in this country at the— modern day slavery going on in this country at the moment as we epeet— this country at the moment as we epeet, ert— this country at the moment as we epeet, ert thet— this country at the moment as we speak, and that is— this country at the moment as we speak, and that is equally a terrttte— speak, and that is equally a terrible crime— speak, and that is equally a terrible crime and should be etempet— terrible crime and should be clamped down— terrible crime and should be clamped down on. and we should get clamped down on. and we should aet ht— clamped down on. and we should aet rtt ot— clamped down on. and we should aet rtt ot tt— clamped down on. and we should aet rtt ot rt. — clamped down on. and we should get rid of it. yeah.— clamped down on. and we should get rid of it . “tie h titre; hr:t;tr:j; get rid of it. yeah. here here to that. and it's worth pointing out as well that the royal navy at great expense loss of at great expense and loss of life did its very best to help aboush life did its very best to help abolish slavery. let's move on now. guardian trying their now. the guardian trying their best the parade. best to rain on the parade. let's look some of the let's look at some of the positive there are some positive side. there are some new been new photographs have been released . charles, tell about released. charles, tell us about them. right. released. charles, tell us about them . right. we've got three new them. right. we've got three new photoarephe— them. right. we've got three new photoarephe tor— them. right. we've got three new photographs for the _ right. we've got three new photographs for the king and queer— photographs for the king and queer we-ue— photographs for the king and queen. we've got the couple

toaether— queen. we've got the couple toaether tr— queen. we've got the couple together in front— queen. we've got the couple together in front of the coronation _ together in front of the coronation portrait of george the— coronation portrait of george the tttth— coronation portrait of george the fifth. and _ coronation portrait of george the fifth. and we have got an trttuttuet— the fifth. and we have got an individual portrait of the king ettttra— individual portrait of the king ettttra or— individual portrait of the king ettttra or e— individual portrait of the king sitting on a chair. and then campu— sitting on a chair. and then camilla, the— sitting on a chair. and then camilla, the queen sitting on a eherr— camilla, the queen sitting on a ehetr .— camilla, the queen sitting on a ehetr . rouetw— camilla, the queen sitting on a chair . lovely photographs there chair. lovely photographs there are chair. lovely photographs there otutouetw— chair. lovely photographs there are obviously particularly taken pher— are obviously particularly taken prtor to— are obviously particularly taken prtor to the— are obviously particularly taken prior to the coronation, but there-e— prior to the coronation, but there's been— prior to the coronation, but there's been a— prior to the coronation, but there's been a release of mother— there's been a release of another photograph of prince chertee— another photograph of prince chertee tr— another photograph of prince charles in his— another photograph of prince charles in his early days at trtrttw— charles in his early days at trinity college— charles in his early days at trinity college in cambridge . trinity college in cambridge. nowt_ trinity college in cambridge. row, to— trinity college in cambridge. row, to te— trinity college in cambridge. now, to be quite— trinity college in cambridge. now, to be quite honest , martin, now, to be quite honest, martin, the— now, to be quite honest, martin, thte pteture— now, to be quite honest, martin, thte pteture ,— now, to be quite honest, martin, this picture , which— now, to be quite honest, martin, this picture , which we can see this picture, which we can see on this picture, which we can see or the— this picture, which we can see or the eee— this picture, which we can see or the ,— this picture, which we can see on the screen , but for people on the screen, but for people who— on the screen, but for people who — on the screen, but for people who are on radio— on the screen, but for people who are on radio ,- on the screen, but for people who are on radio , it really who are on radio, it really comes out of— who are on radio, it really comes out of the files from the ertmtret— comes out of the files from the criminal records— comes out of the files from the criminal records office. it's got— criminal records office. it's aot ert— criminal records office. it's got and written— criminal records office. it's got and written in wales. hrh the— got and written in wales. hrh the three— got and written in wales. hrh the prince of— got and written in wales. hrh the prince of and— got and written in wales. hrh the prince of and it's got 1967. it the prince of and it's got 1967. rt r-uet— the prince of and it's got 1967. rt tuet teete— the prince of and it's got 1967. it just looks like,— the prince of and it's got 1967. it just looks like, you know, if you— it just looks like, you know, if wou eee— it just looks like, you know, if wou thre— it just looks like, you know, if you see this man,— it just looks like, you know, if you see this man, stay away. he is you see this man, stay away. he he e— you see this man, stay away. he he e teraeroue— you see this man, stay away. he he e teraeroue ,— you see this man, stay away. he is a dangerous , dangerous man. is a dangerous, dangerous man. art— is a dangerous, dangerous man. art rte— is a dangerous, dangerous man. art tt-e e— is a dangerous, dangerous man. and it's a shame,— is a dangerous, dangerous man. and it's a shame, really. it's a eort— and it's a shame, really. it's a eort ot— and it's a shame, really. it's a sort of photograph that your mum will sort of photograph that your mum wttt trtra— sort of photograph that your mum wttt trtra out— sort of photograph that your mum will bring out at— sort of photograph that your mum will bring out at some an trepproprrete— will bring out at some an inappropriate time to show

retettuee— inappropriate time to show retettuee .— inappropriate time to show relatives . really, i suspect the relatives. really, i suspect the ttra— relatives. really, i suspect the trra woutt— relatives. really, i suspect the king would rather like this one turret.— king would rather like this one turret. pea.— king would rather like this one buried. yeah, i— king would rather like this one buried. yeah, i tend to. c buried. yeah, i tend to. it teete— buried. yeah, i tend to. it teete ttte— buried. yeah, i tend to. it looks like a— buried. yeah, i tend to. it looks like a police- buried. yeah, i tend to. it looks like a police mugshot. all that's missing is the height chart behind him . quickly, chart behind him. quickly, a couple of guests have been announced for coronation announced for the coronation itself. one of them great, tom cruise. another one. however, hans zhang, a chinese diplomat who ordered the clamp down on the hong kong protest. that's gone down quite badly . it has gone down quite badly. it has gone down quite badly. it has gone down quite badly- g : r:c : it has gone down quite badly as g : r:c. : it has gone down quite badly as has the truttettor— gone down quite badly as has the truttettor to— gone down quite badly as has the invitation to michelle o'neill , invitation to michelle o'neill, who— invitation to michelle o'neill, who he— invitation to michelle o'neill, who he the— invitation to michelle o'neill, who is the sinn— invitation to michelle o'neill, who is the sinn fein , who will who is the sinn fein, who will be who is the sinn fein, who will te thet— who is the sinn fein, who will be first minister— who is the sinn fein, who will be first minister if ever teettee— be first minister if ever decides to— be first minister if ever decides to get back into stormort— decides to get back into stormont again. and it's these are government— stormont again. and it's these are government government truttettore— are government government invitations, not— are government government invitations, not palace invitations. _ invitations, not palace invitations. so obviously the aoemerte— invitations. so obviously the governments want to smooth trouttet— governments want to smooth troubled waters— governments want to smooth troubled waters with the sinn tetr— troubled waters with the sinn tetr ert— troubled waters with the sinn fein and obviously the chinese aoemrret — fein and obviously the chinese aouemrrert r— fein and obviously the chinese government. i think it's wrong, eepeetettw— government. i think it's wrong, especially when— government. i think it's wrong, especially when you've got peopte— especially when you've got peopte ttte — especially when you've got people like the— especially when you've got people like the duchess of york, terate — people like the duchess of york, terate rot— people like the duchess of york, fergie not being— people like the duchess of york, fergie not being invited and the tete— fergie not being invited and the tete ert— fergie not being invited and the tete ert the— fergie not being invited and the late and the bridesmaid of the tete— late and the bridesmaid of the tete oueer— late and the bridesmaid of the late queen lady—

late and the bridesmaid of the late queen lady ,_ late and the bridesmaid of the late queen lady , pamela hicks, late queen lady, pamela hicks, not late queen lady, pamela hicks, rot tetra— late queen lady, pamela hicks, not being invited— late queen lady, pamela hicks, not being invited either. late queen lady, pamela hicks, not being invited either . not being invited either. okay, chertee— not being invited either. okay, chertee tee.— not being invited either. okay, charles rea, thank— not being invited either. okay, charles rea, thank you for your expert input, as always. have a great weekend . you're watching great weekend. you're watching and to news and listening to gb news saturday with me, martin daubney. there's lots more coming the show this coming up on the show this afternoon, including young gamblers could face a £2 steak limit on online slot machines . limit on online slot machines. but will be enough to kerb but will this be enough to kerb the the slots on the grip the slots have on addicts? but first, let's take a look at the weather with marco. hello, i'm marco petagna and welcome to your latest weather update from the met office for the rest of this weekend, we hold mixed bag of hold on to a mixed bag of weather there'll weather across the uk. there'll be heavy be some sunshine, some heavy showers pleasantly showers, but feeling pleasantly warm comes through. warm when the sun comes through. the for the mixed the reason for the mixed conditions down fact conditions is down to the fact we've got pressure towards we've got high pressure towards the east, low pressure out towards that's giving the east, low pressure out tovlight that's giving the east, low pressure out tovlight slack s giving the east, low pressure out tovlight slack pressure us light winds, a slack pressure gradient the uk. but gradient across the uk. but equally allowing showers equally allowing those showers to times . heavy to develop at times. heavy showers the day across showers to end the day across the west north—west of the the west and north—west of the uk. continuing see uk. and we're continuing to see showers across these northern and western areas as head and western areas as we head through the evening through the rest of the evening into with into the overnight period with a clearer skies down towards the south—east up towards the south—east and up towards the north—east of the uk , some low

north—east of the uk, some low cloud patches. as cloud and mist patches. but as the of the clearer weather the best of the clearer weather here and it's here, here generally and it's here, we'll lowest we'll see the lowest temperatures down six temperatures to to down six degrees close freezing possibly close to freezing across the north—east of scotland see scotland, where we could see a touch of milder , though, touch of frost milder, though, under out towards the under the cloud out towards the west. here we'll see west. and it's here we'll see showers the on showers from the word go on sunday, quite heavy , sunday, some still quite heavy, even thundery to contend even thundery showers to contend with. showers tending with. and those showers tending to more widely as we with. and those showers tending to through more widely as we with. and those showers tending to through the are widely as we with. and those showers tending to through the day videly as we with. and those showers tending to through the day ontly as we with. and those showers tending to through the day on sunday. go through the day on sunday. still england still the south—east of england holding of the holding on to the best of the sunshine staying generally sunshine and staying generally dry through into dry here. i think through into the say, the afternoon. but as i say, some quite heavy downpours developing, across developing, particularly across northern ireland as go into northern ireland as we go into sunday afternoon in sunshine sunday afternoon in the sunshine towards the south, we'll see highs 18. locally, 19 highs of 17 to 18. locally, 19 degrees, but still chilly towards north—east of towards the north—east of scotland the evening , scotland and into the evening, the showers migrate the showers tend to migrate their eastwards across the their way eastwards across the uk. i think even the uk. so i think even the south—east to see south—east will start to see some developing as we go some showers developing as we go through night, whereas through sunday night, whereas out showers out towards the west the showers will . we'll will start to ease. we'll see some but with some clearer spells. but with the that there's still the fact that there's still a fair amount of cloud no fair amount of cloud around no issues on issues with temperatures on sunday holding sunday night, generally holding up 7 to 10 degrees up in the range 7 to 10 degrees on monday , bank holiday, monday,

on monday, bank holiday, monday, of course, the focus for the showers towards the east showers will be towards the east and england . and south—east of england. again, heavy showers again, 1 or 2 heavy showers around here, some patchy rain towards scotland, towards the north of scotland, but elsewhere with higher pressure , we should pressure dominating, we should see a lot of fine and settled weather temperatures see a lot of fine and settled weather quitetmperatures see a lot of fine and settled weather quitetmperainto. see a lot of fine and settled weather quitetmpera into the climbing quite nicely into the high on to high teens and we hold on to plenty fine weather across high teens and we hold on to pleibulk fine weather across high teens and we hold on to pleibulk of �*ie weather across high teens and we hold on to pleibulk of the leather across high teens and we hold on to pleibulk of the uk her across high teens and we hold on to pleibulk of the uk her tuesday the bulk of the uk on tuesday and wednesday further warm and wednesday with further warm sunshine .

hello and welcome to gb news saturday. i'm martin daubney and for the next two hours i'll be keeping you company on tv online and your digital radio. well, we've action packed hour we've got an action packed hour to come, including our tough new gambling laws necessary or more nanny state nonsense . but also, nanny state nonsense. but also, should we open our borders to sudanese refugees? plus why on

earth did britain block a £65 billion video gaming deal? but first, it's the news headlines with the wonderful tatiana . with the wonderful tatiana. martin. thank you very much and aoot— martin. thank you very much and aoot etterroom— martin. thank you very much and good afternoon. this— martin. thank you very much and good afternoon. this is— ttetc h thank you very much and good afternoon. this is the teteet— good afternoon. this is the latest from _ good afternoon. this is the latest from the _ good afternoon. this is the latest from the newsroom the teetttre— latest from the newsroom the teetttre tor— latest from the newsroom the deadline for british nationals to reeeh— deadline for british nationals to reeeh the— deadline for british nationals to reach the evacuation airfield in to reach the evacuation airfield tr suter— to reach the evacuation airfield tr suter hee— to reach the evacuation airfield in sudan has now— to reach the evacuation airfield in sudan has now passed . it in sudan has now passed. it comes as final— in sudan has now passed. it comes as final evacuation tttahte— comes as final evacuation ttrahte out— comes as final evacuation flights out of— comes as final evacuation flights out of the war torn eourtrw— flights out of the war torn eourtrw wtt— flights out of the war torn country will take place later totew.— country will take place later totew. teputw— country will take place later today. deputy prime minister orter— today. deputy prime minister oliver dowden_ today. deputy prime minister oliver dowden will chair a cobra meettra— oliver dowden will chair a cobra meettra teter— oliver dowden will chair a cobra meeting later this— oliver dowden will chair a cobra meeting later this afternoon to theme— meeting later this afternoon to tteeuee the— meeting later this afternoon to discuss the securing situation in discuss the securing situation tr thertoum— discuss the securing situation in khartoum ahead of those final tttahte— in khartoum ahead of those final tttahte .— in khartoum ahead of those final ttrahte . tettra— in khartoum ahead of those final flights , taking off— in khartoum ahead of those final flights , taking off at 6 pm. uk flights, taking off at 6 pm. uk ttme— flights, taking off at 6 pm. uk ttme eo— flights, taking off at 6 pm. uk ttme eo ter— flights, taking off at 6 pm. uk ttme eo ter .— flights, taking off at 6 pm. uk time so far , british forces have time so far, british forces have reeeuet— time so far, british forces have rescued more than— time so far, british forces have rescued more than 1500 people, but rescued more than 1500 people, tut hurtrete— rescued more than 1500 people, but hundreds have— rescued more than 1500 people, but hundreds have been killed ert— but hundreds have been killed ert tehe— but hundreds have been killed ert tere ot— but hundreds have been killed and tens of thousands have fled for and tens of thousands have fled tor thet— and tens of thousands have fled for their lives— and tens of thousands have fled for their lives in— and tens of thousands have fled for their lives in a— and tens of thousands have fled for their lives in a power etruaate— for their lives in a power struggle between the army and a war,— struggle between the army and a rival, paramilitar_ struggle between the army and a rival, paramilitar group , great rival, paramilitar group, great ermort— rival, paramilitar group, great ormond street— rival, paramilitar group, great ormond street hospital ,

rival, paramilitar group, great ormond street hospital, has been arertet— ormond street hospital, has been granted exemptions to keep nurses working— granted exemptions to keep nurses working during the upeomrra— nurses working during the upcoming strike action. the chtttrer-e— upcoming strike action. the children's hospital expressed concerns about— children's hospital expressed concerns about staffing as royal cotteae— concerns about staffing as royal cotteae ot— concerns about staffing as royal college of nursing staff preperet— college of nursing staff preperet to— college of nursing staff prepared to walk out. rcn etere— prepared to walk out. rcn members will— prepared to walk out. rcn members will go on strike from aoo— members will go on strike from 8:00 tomorrow— members will go on strike from 8:00 tomorrow evening until late on 8:00 tomorrow evening until late or arortew. — 8:00 tomorrow evening until late or rrortew. thre— 8:00 tomorrow evening until late on monday. this as— 8:00 tomorrow evening until late on monday. this as health woreret— on monday. this as health workers belonging to the gmb uror— workers belonging to the gmb union accepted— workers belonging to the gmb union accepted a— workers belonging to the gmb union accepted a 5% pay offer trom— union accepted a 5% pay offer tom the— union accepted a 5% pay offer from the government yesterday. urtor— from the government yesterday. union officials— from the government yesterday. union officials will now vote to eeeept— union officials will now vote to eeeept the — union officials will now vote to accept the offer— union officials will now vote to accept the offer at— union officials will now vote to accept the offer at a meeting of the wus— accept the offer at a meeting of the nhs staff— accept the offer at a meeting of the nhs staff council next week. the the nhs staff council next week. the potttteet— the nhs staff council next week. the political editor— the nhs staff council next week. the political editor for the rutttrator— the political editor for the huffington post told gb news it toeer-t— huffington post told gb news it toeer-t ome— huffington post told gb news it doesn't come soon— huffington post told gb news it doesn't come soon enough. it's expeetet— doesn't come soon enough. it's eopeetet thet— doesn't come soon enough. it's expected that the _ doesn't come soon enough. it's expected that the union's eourett— expected that the union's council will— expected that the union's council will actually vote to eeeept— council will actually vote to eeeept the — council will actually vote to eeeept the pew— council will actually vote to accept the pay deal, in which ett— accept the pay deal, in which ett the— accept the pay deal, in which case all the members, the union etere— case all the members, the union etere ert— case all the members, the union members and the— case all the members, the union members and the nhs employees will members and the nhs employees wttt aet— members and the nhs employees wttt aet the— members and the nhs employees wrtt aet the pew— members and the nhs employees will get the pay rise that the aouerrmert— will get the pay rise that the government is— will get the pay rise that the government is offering. ' hr: government is offering. and then that government is offering. and then thet ther— government is offering. and then that then begs the question will the strike then continue ? i'm the strike then continue? i'm not sure it will. so it could actually we could be looking at the end of the of the dispute coming quite soon, which although it won't come soon

enough to stop this this weekend strike action , the labour party strike action, the labour party is promising to invest in more teachers who are specialists in their subject if they win the next general election. it comes as a labour analysis— next general election. it comes as a labour analysis of- as a labour analysis of aouerrmert— as a labour analysis of government figures suggest that there— government figures suggest that there ee— government figures suggest that there aepe— government figures suggest that there are gaps in— government figures suggest that there are gaps in expert tretrtra— there are gaps in expert training provisions in state eehoote— training provisions in state schools across— training provisions in state schools across england . shadow schools across england. shadow rtueettor— schools across england. shadow education secretary bridget rhttttpeor— education secretary bridget phillipson says schools are eeremtttra— phillipson says schools are scrambling to _ phillipson says schools are scrambling to fill roles , scrambling to fill roles, meertra— scrambling to fill roles, meaning there aren't high eterterte— meaning there aren't high standards for— meaning there aren't high standards for all children. she tott— standards for all children. she tott et— standards for all children. she told gb news— standards for all children. she told gb news that under labour, the ehetterae— told gb news that under labour, the challenge is— told gb news that under labour, the challenge is to— told gb news that under labour, the challenge is to teacher recruitment— the challenge is to teacher recruitment and retention will eherae— recruitment and retention will eherae ouer— recruitment and retention will change over the _ recruitment and retention will change over the course of the teet— change over the course of the teet teeete— change over the course of the last decade, the— change over the course of the last decade, the government has preettet— last decade, the government has preettet ouer— last decade, the government has preettet e— last decade, the government has presided over a recruitment tetture— presided over a recruitment tetture ert— presided over a recruitment tetture ert e— presided over a recruitment failure and a real challenge across our schools. so what eeheete— across our schools. so what schools are having to do at the moment when they're scrambling to teachers to cover to find teachers to cover lessons is to call upon non—special ists to deliver those because of the those lessons. because of the massive challenges we're massive challenges that we're seeing around teacher recruitment . and recruitment and retention. and under labour, that will change. we'll that we'll make sure that all children access to children have access to specialist provision and that we deliver more teachers by ending

those breaks on private those tax breaks on private schools. scotland's those tax breaks on private schools . scotland's first schools. scotland's first trtrteter— schools. scotland's first minister humza- t scotland's first minister humza yousaf , is minister humza yousaf, is teettra— minister humza yousaf, is teettra e— minister humza yousaf, is teettra e tew— minister humza yousaf, is leading a day of campaigning in turtee— leading a day of campaigning in turtee totew— leading a day of campaigning in dundee today to _ leading a day of campaigning in dundee today to mark a month etree— dundee today to mark a month since becoming— dundee today to mark a month since becoming the snp leader. mr since becoming the snp leader. arr tueut— since becoming the snp leader. arr tueut hee— since becoming the snp leader. mr yusuf has had— since becoming the snp leader. mr yusuf has had a tumultuous etert— mr yusuf has had a tumultuous etert to— mr yusuf has had a tumultuous etert to the— mr yusuf has had a tumultuous start to his time— mr yusuf has had a tumultuous start to his time in charge with the meet— start to his time in charge with the erreet ot— start to his time in charge with the arrest of former chief eeute — the arrest of former chief executive peter murrell and tormer— executive peter murrell and torrrer sur— executive peter murrell and former snp treasurer colin teettte— former snp treasurer colin beattie, who— former snp treasurer colin beattie, who were both investigated - beattie, who were both investigated over party finances and investigated over party finances ert reteeeet— investigated over party finances and released without charge. however, ahead— and released without charge. however, ahead of his visit todavu— however, ahead of his visit todavu he— however, ahead of his visit today, he assured his supporters thet— today, he assured his supporters thet rte— today, he assured his supporters thet the pew— today, he assured his supporters that his party membership is on the he— that his party membership is on the ert— that his party membership is on the rise and support for independence remains strong . the independence remains strong. the crtmeer— independence remains strong. the crtmeer ettw— independence remains strong. the crtmeer ettw ot— independence remains strong. the crimean city of sevastopol has teer— crimean city of sevastopol has teer htt— crimean city of sevastopol has teer htt tw— crimean city of sevastopol has teer htt tw er— crimean city of sevastopol has been hit by an alleged drone etteet— been hit by an alleged drone etteet .— been hit by an alleged drone etteet . the— been hit by an alleged drone attack . the fire— been hit by an alleged drone attack . the fire caused by the attack. the fire caused by the etteet— attack. the fire caused by the attack happened _ attack. the fire caused by the attack happened at a fuel etoreae— attack happened at a fuel storage facility and has since teer— storage facility and has since been localised _ storage facility and has since been localised ._ storage facility and has since been localised . the crimean been localised. the crimean ettw— been localised. the crimean ertw. whteh— been localised. the crimean city, which russia annexed from there— city, which russia annexed from utretre tr— city, which russia annexed from ukraine in 2014,— city, which russia annexed from ukraine in 2014, has come under repeetet— ukraine in 2014, has come under repeetet etr— ukraine in 2014, has come under repeated air attacks since tueete— repeated air attacks since russia sent— repeated air attacks since russia sent troops into ukraine teet— russia sent troops into ukraine teet tetruerw— russia sent troops into ukraine last february. russian officials heue— last february. russian officials heue ttemet— last february. russian officials have blamed the— last february. russian officials have blamed the attacks on there.— have blamed the attacks on ukraine. officials all documents

etout— ukraine. officials all documents etout e— ukraine. officials all documents etout e tre— ukraine. officials all documents about a £13 billion royal navy eute— about a £13 billion royal navy submarine have— about a £13 billion royal navy submarine have been reportedly tourt— submarine have been reportedly tourt tr— submarine have been reportedly tourt hr the— submarine have been reportedly found in the toilets of a wetherspoons- found in the toilets of a wetherspoons pub. the sun rewepeper— wetherspoons pub. the sun newspaper has— wetherspoons pub. the sun newspaper has said files about the hors— newspaper has said files about the hms anson— newspaper has said files about the hms anson were left in the tureee— the hms anson were left in the furness railway— the hms anson were left in the furness railway in— the hms anson were left in the furness railway in cumbria. it eett— furness railway in cumbria. it eett the— furness railway in cumbria. it said the documents appear to ehow— said the documents appear to ehow the— said the documents appear to show the inner— said the documents appear to show the inner workings of the ueeeet— show the inner workings of the ueeeet tor— show the inner workings of the vessel for the— show the inner workings of the vessel for the royal navy has eett— vessel for the royal navy has eett tr— vessel for the royal navy has eett tr e— vessel for the royal navy has said in a statement that no eteeetttet— said in a statement that no classified information appeared in classified information appeared tr thoee— classified information appeared tr thoee pepere— classified information appeared in those papers ._ classified information appeared in those papers . a photograph of in those papers. a photograph of the ttra— in those papers. a photograph of the king studying— in those papers. a photograph of the king studying at cambridge umuerettw— the king studying at cambridge university has— the king studying at cambridge university has been released for the uerw— university has been released for the uerw thet— university has been released for the very first time.— university has been released for the very first time. trinity cotteae — the very first time. trinity college shared- the very first time. trinity college shared the picture of the ther— college shared the picture of the ther re— college shared the picture of the then 18 year— college shared the picture of the then 18 year old prince eheet— the then 18 year old prince eheet ot— the then 18 year old prince ahead of his— the then 18 year old prince ahead of his coronation. next weet— ahead of his coronation. next week, charles— ahead of his coronation. next week, charles studied archaeology- week, charles studied archaeology and anthropology in his archaeology and anthropology in the thet— archaeology and anthropology in the ttret weer— archaeology and anthropology in his first year and— archaeology and anthropology in his first year and then history for his first year and then history tor two— his first year and then history tor two weee— his first year and then history for two years, graduating . in for two years, graduating. in reto— for two years, graduating. in rtto ert— for two years, graduating. in 1970 and finally, three new photoarephe— 1970 and finally, three new photoarephe ot— 1970 and finally, three new photographs of the king and the oueer— photographs of the king and the queen consort— photographs of the king and the queen consort have been released eheet— queen consort have been released eheet ot— queen consort have been released eheet ot rert— queen consort have been released ahead of next week's coronation the— ahead of next week's coronation the tmeaee— ahead of next week's coronation the images were— ahead of next week's coronation the images were taken in the peteee-e— the images were taken in the peteee-e true— the images were taken in the palace's blue drawing room last morth— palace's blue drawing room last morth .— palace's blue drawing room last morth . ere— palace's blue drawing room last month . one shows— palace's blue drawing room last month . one shows the couple month. one shows the couple eterttra— month. one shows the couple etertrra ette— month. one shows the couple standing side by— month. one shows the couple standing side by side in front of standing side by side in front ot e— standing side by side in front or e portrett— standing side by side in front of a portrait of— standing side by side in front of a portrait of king george, the— of a portrait of king george, the thtr— of a portrait of king george, the tttth et— of a portrait of king george, the fifth at his—

of a portrait of king george, the fifth at his coronation in 1911. — the fifth at his coronation in 1911. another— the fifth at his coronation in 1911. another shows charles and cemttte— 1911. another shows charles and camilla individually with the oueer— camilla individually with the queen consort,— camilla individually with the queen consort, wearing the late oueee— queen consort, wearing the late oueee peert— queen consort, wearing the late queen's pearl drop— queen consort, wearing the late queen's pearl drop earrings . queen's pearl drop earrings. thre— queen's pearl drop earrings. thte te— queen's pearl drop earrings. thte re et— queen's pearl drop earrings. this is gb news.— queen's pearl drop earrings. this is gb news. we'll bring you more news as it— this is gb news. we'll bring you more news as it happens. now it's more news as it happens. now he teet— more news as it happens. now he teet to— more news as it happens. now it's back to gb— more news as it happens. now it's back to gb news saturday wtth— it's back to gb news saturday wtth .— with. one well, - with. one well, thank with. one - well, thank you, wtth. ore— well, thank you, tatyana . wtth. the— well, thank you, tatyana . and well, thank you, tatyana. and tete— well, thank you, tatyana. and now let's kick— well, thank you, tatyana. and now let's kick off— well, thank you, tatyana. and now let's kick off with the biggest story this week. and of course, that's richard sharpe, who's from role as who's resigned from his role as the of the bbc. the chairman of the bbc. mr sharpe down after a report sharpe stood down after a report found he broke the rules on appointments failing to appointments by failing to declare role in helping declare his role in helping bods declare his role in helping boris johnson get a £800,000 loan. well, joining me to discuss this now is our political reporter, catherine force so, catherine, it's the only story in town. in many ways, the big question is this did he jump ship before he was pushed ? it seems that he did.

pushed? it seems that he did. teettwe— pushed? it seems that he did. really? because— :7 it seems that he did. really? because although he reetaret— really? because although he resigned yesterday , made quite resigned yesterday, made quite a ttartttet— resigned yesterday, made quite a dignified speech,— resigned yesterday, made quite a dignified speech, it's now emeraet— dignified speech, it's now emerged saying that basically the the— emerged saying that basically the bbc board— emerged saying that basically the bbc board had been given a trtettra— the bbc board had been given a trtettra or— the bbc board had been given a briefing on the— the bbc board had been given a briefing on the contents of the report— briefing on the contents of the report ert— briefing on the contents of the report and were— briefing on the contents of the report and were very concerned. art— report and were very concerned. art eo— report and were very concerned. art eo tt— report and were very concerned. and so it sounds— report and were very concerned. and so it sounds like it was mete— and so it sounds like it was mete eteer— and so it sounds like it was made clear to— and so it sounds like it was made clear to him that his poetttor— made clear to him that his poettror wee— made clear to him that his position was untenable . well, position was untenable. well, otew. — position was untenable. well, otew. wew.— position was untenable. well, okay. now, aside— position was untenable. well, okay. trzrrt : position was untenable. well, okay. \rr:::rrt r:r::; position was untenable. well, okay. \rrt.rrt r:rt; h okay. now, aside from the loan itself , a lot of people are itself, a lot of people are saying that this feels actually a bit more like the bbc of all places, could never , could never places, could never, could never aslef the idea of a conservative sympathiser in control . so aslef the idea of a conservative sympathiser in control. so is this a politically motivated termination ? well, honestly , termination? well, honestly, political. this has been a potttteet— c rt.ec this has been a political appointment always urter— political appointment always under margaret— political appointment always under margaret thatcher, under tony— under margaret thatcher, under torw ttem— under margaret thatcher, under torw ttetr. torw— under margaret thatcher, under tony blair. tony blair puts eeueret— tony blair. tony blair puts several well, _ tony blair. tony blair puts several well, gavyn davis was a retour— several well, gavyn davis was a massive labour donor. he was eherr— massive labour donor. he was ehetr ert— massive labour donor. he was ehetr ert ther— massive labour donor. he was chair and then greg was director aereret. — chair and then greg was director aereret. re-t— chair and then greg was director general. he'd given £50,000 to teteur— general. he'd given £50,000 to retour. so— general. he'd given £50,000 to labour. so there's— general. he'd given £50,000 to labour. so there's nothing new. art— labour. so there's nothing new. art str— labour. so there's nothing new.

art str teettr— labour. so there's nothing new. and sir robin gibb, who was thereee— and sir robin gibb, who was theresa may's— and sir robin gibb, who was theresa may's chief of head of communications— theresa may's chief of head of communications ,_ theresa may's chief of head of communications , is on the board. communications, is on the board. so communications, is on the board. so ett— communications, is on the board. so all governments— communications, is on the board. so all governments of all eoouret— so all governments of all colours have— so all governments of all colours have put people into the— colours have put people into thte rote— colours have put people into this role that— colours have put people into this role that they favour for wheteuer— this role that they favour for whatever reason. _ this role that they favour for whatever reason. now, of course , whatever reason. now, of course . there-tt— whatever reason. now, of course . there-rt te— whatever reason. now, of course , there'll be plenty— whatever reason. now, of course , there'll be plenty of people eewtra— , there'll be plenty of people eewtra thet— , there'll be plenty of people saying that they— , there'll be plenty of people saying that they feel that the tte— saying that they feel that the tee hee— saying that they feel that the tee hee e— saying that they feel that the bbc has a left— saying that they feel that the bbc has a left wing bias and so , vou— bbc has a left wing bias and so . wou trow.— bbc has a left wing bias and so , you know, richard sharpe was a big conservative— , you know, richard sharpe was a big conservative donor. he's trowr— big conservative donor. he's trowr torre— big conservative donor. he's known boris johnson for 20 weee— known boris johnson for 20 weere re— known boris johnson for 20 years. he worked with rishi suret— years. he worked with rishi suret et— years. he worked with rishi sunak at goldman sachs . and then sunak at goldman sachs. and then thert— sunak at goldman sachs. and then ttteht suret— sunak at goldman sachs. and then rishi sunak had— sunak at goldman sachs. and then rishi sunak had brought him in to eturee— rishi sunak had brought him in to advise him— rishi sunak had brought him in to advise him while he was chereettor— to advise him while he was chancellor on— to advise him while he was chancellor on the covid support eheme— chancellor on the covid support eherre so— chancellor on the covid support eherre so he— chancellor on the covid support scheme. so he had— chancellor on the covid support scheme. so he had very , very scheme. so he had very, very ehoee— scheme. so he had very, very etoee ttrte— scheme. so he had very, very close links with— scheme. so he had very, very close links with to tory pms. tut— close links with to tory pms. tut thre— close links with to tory pms. tut thte hee— close links with to tory pms. but this has been going on forever. but— but this has been going on forever. but i— but this has been going on forever. but i think what it is . te— forever. but i think what it is . re thet— forever. but i think what it is . re thet peopte— forever. but i think what it is , is that people haven't really teer— , is that people haven't really teer thet— , is that people haven't really been that aware— , is that people haven't really been that aware of it. and you tmeatre— been that aware of it. and you tmearre ther— been that aware of it. and you imagine then that— been that aware of it. and you imagine then that the bbc is, you— imagine then that the bbc is, wou trow.— imagine then that the bbc is, you know, beyond politics. but as we're finding— you know, beyond politics. but as we're finding out , you know, as we're finding out, you know, euerwtotw— as we're finding out, you know, euerwtotw hee— as we're finding out, you know, everybody has political views . everybody has political views. teeh. — everybody has political views. teeh. art— everybody has political views.

yeah. and talking- everybody has political views. yeah. and talking of- everybody has political views. yeah. 'hr: hrg rth everybody has political views. yeah. hr: hrg rth yeah. and talking of which front pages express today, of course, the motormouth match of the day host gary lineker , never shy of host gary lineker, never shy of a or two. waded in and a word or two. he's waded in and he's the bbc chairman he's said that the bbc chairman should not be elected by any government of the day, not now, not ever , anderson replied. not ever, anderson replied. well, as you said . well, that well, as you said. well, that didn't stop your old mate, alastair campbell and tony blair appointing davis in 2001. appointing gavin davis in 2001. former labour party member, his wife ran gordon brown's wife even ran gordon brown's office. but does lineker have a point? should this role be apolitical or is that just impossible to achieve? i think he does have a point. and in another world— he does have a point. and in another world that- : and in another world that would be areet— another world that would be areet. tut— another world that would be great. but realistically, is thet— great. but realistically, is thet aorra— great. but realistically, is thet aorra to— great. but realistically, is that going to happen ? i mean, that going to happen? i mean, thert— that going to happen? i mean, ttteht suret— that going to happen? i mean, rishi sunak has— that going to happen? i mean, rishi sunak has got huge ehetteraee— rishi sunak has got huge challenges ,_ rishi sunak has got huge challenges , huge things to deal challenges, huge things to deal wtth— challenges, huge things to deal with delivering— challenges, huge things to deal with delivering on these five prtortttee— with delivering on these five priorities. does— with delivering on these five priorities. does the government reettw— priorities. does the government reettw wert— priorities. does the government reettw wert to— priorities. does the government really want to go— priorities. does the government really want to go down this route— really want to go down this route ot— really want to go down this route of altering completely the way— route of altering completely the wew thet— route of altering completely the wew thet thre— route of altering completely the way that this appointment is metee— way that this appointment is metee r— way that this appointment is made? i doubt— way that this appointment is made? i doubt that it does. now how— made? i doubt that it does. now how thew-tt— made? i doubt that it does. now now they'll probably make an epporrtmert— now they'll probably make an appointment that's not sort of

retettw— appointment that's not sort of nakedly political. so robbie ortt— nakedly political. so robbie ettt hee— nakedly political. so robbie gibb has already ruled himself out.— gibb has already ruled himself out. eeror— gibb has already ruled himself out. teror us— gibb has already ruled himself out. baron us nicky morgan is tetra— out. baron us nicky morgan is tetra tettet— out. baron us nicky morgan is being talked about. she was tormer— being talked about. she was former conservative culture eeereterw— former conservative culture eeereterw. r— former conservative culture secretary. i think it was urtttetw— secretary. i think it was unlikely they- secretary. i think it was unlikely they put her in charge for unlikely they put her in charge tor thet— unlikely they put her in charge for that reason— unlikely they put her in charge for that reason ._ unlikely they put her in charge for that reason . but it's very, for that reason. but it's very, verv— for that reason. but it's very, very difficult,— for that reason. but it's very, very difficult, isn't it, teuee— very difficult, isn't it, because richard sharp would say that because richard sharp would say thet rte— because richard sharp would say that his connections within the aouerrmert— that his connections within the government actually helped him do government actually helped him to the— government actually helped him to the hot— government actually helped him to the hot et— government actually helped him do his job at the— government actually helped him do his job at the bbc. he pushed teet— do his job at the bbc. he pushed teet verv— do his job at the bbc. he pushed teet uerw hert— do his job at the bbc. he pushed back very hard against nadine torrtee— back very hard against nadine torrtee who— back very hard against nadine dorries, who was— back very hard against nadine dorries, who was culture eeereterw. — dorries, who was culture secretary. she - dorries, who was culture secretary. she wanted to scrap the meme— secretary. she wanted to scrap the licence fee. _ secretary. she wanted to scrap the licence fee. he managed to get the licence fee. he managed to aet turttra— the licence fee. he managed to aet turttra aorra— the licence fee. he managed to get funding going forward to me.— get funding going forward to me tr— get funding going forward to 2728, in line— get funding going forward to 2728, in line with inflation. aa— 2728, in line with inflation. so. wou— 2728, in line with inflation. to wou trow— 2728, in line with inflation. to wou trow .— 2728, in line with inflation. so, you know , people, senior so, you know, people, senior peopte— so, you know, people, senior peopte tr— so, you know, people, senior peopte hr the— so, you know, people, senior people in the bbc were very happy— people in the bbc were very heppw etout— people in the bbc were very happy about how he did his job and happy about how he did his job ert trtrt— happy about how he did his job and didn't have— happy about how he did his job and didn't have any issue with his impartiality— and didn't have any issue with his impartiality or lack thereof.— his impartiality or lack thereof. but— his impartiality or lack thereof. but the optics of him tetra— thereof. but the optics of him tetra eo— thereof. but the optics of him tetra eo tr— thereof. but the optics of him being so in with— thereof. but the optics of him being so in with boris johnson ert— being so in with boris johnson ert tetttra— being so in with boris johnson and telling him _ being so in with boris johnson and telling him in advance, i'm going— and telling him in advance, i'm aorra to— and telling him in advance, i'm going to apply— and telling him in advance, i'm going to apply for_ and telling him in advance, i'm going to apply for this job, i fancy— going to apply for this job, i terew thre— going to apply for this job, i fancy this job. _ going to apply for this job, i fancy this job. and then putting him fancy this job. and then putting htm tr— fancy this job. and then putting htm tr toueh— fancy this job. and then putting him in touch with— fancy this job. and then putting him in touch with somebody that eeutt— him in touch with somebody that eoutt teer— him in touch with somebody that

could loan him— him in touch with somebody that could loan him a— him in touch with somebody that could loan him a lot of money prettw— could loan him a lot of money are pretty terrible.— could loan him a lot of money are pretty terrible. so etrt; are pretty terrible. so so are there— are pretty terrible. so so are there rumours— are pretty terrible. so so are there rumours that his departure was also exacerbated covid by the fact that his editorial angle was to try and take the woke out of the bbc and people didn't like that. is there any substance to that? honestly it depends who you talk to , but depends who you talk to, but certainly i think we know , don't certainly i think we know, don't we, that very few people at the bbc voted to leave the eu, that they're awesome . if you look, they're awesome. if you look, i'm they're awesome. if you look, r-m eue— they're awesome. if you look, i'm sure there— they're awesome. if you look, i'm sure there are— they're awesome. if you look, i'm sure there are a- ”ti; if you look, i'm sure there are a few there protettw— i'm sure there are a few there protettw rot— i'm sure there are a few there probably not letting on. i euepeet— probably not letting on. i euepeet .— probably not letting on. i suspect . but— probably not letting on. i suspect . but you know, there is suspect. but you know, there is a suspect. but you know, there is e eort— suspect. but you know, there is e eort ot— suspect. but you know, there is a sort of liberal— suspect. but you know, there is a sort of liberal mindset. there is a sort of liberal mindset. there he thet— a sort of liberal mindset. there he thet aroup— a sort of liberal mindset. there is that group think and of course lots— is that group think and of course lots of— is that group think and of course lots of people at the bbc wre-hee— course lots of people at the bbc .we-hee aore- course lots of people at the bbc , we-have gone to- course lots of people at the bbc , we have gone to very , we tend to have gone to very aoot— , we tend to have gone to very good universities.— , we tend to have gone to very good universities. oxbridge otter— good universities. oxbridge otter aore— good universities. oxbridge often gone to— good universities. oxbridge often gone to private school, tert— often gone to private school, tert to— often gone to private school, tend to think— often gone to private school, tend to think in— often gone to private school, tend to think in a in a certain way— tend to think in a in a certain wew .— tend to think in a in a certain wew . tut— tend to think in a in a certain wew . tut r— tend to think in a in a certain way. but i don't— tend to think in a in a certain way . but i don't know that he way. but i don't know that he was removed for— way. but i don't know that he was removed for that reason . it was removed for that reason. it etrttee— was removed for that reason. it etrttee me— was removed for that reason. it strikes me the— was removed for that reason. it strikes me the sunday times trote— strikes me the sunday times trote the— strikes me the sunday times broke the story— strikes me the sunday times broke the story originally . i broke the story originally. i trow— broke the story originally. i trow the— broke the story originally. i know the journalist who broke the etorw. — know the journalist who broke the etorw. re— know the journalist who broke the story. he has— know the journalist who broke the story. he has a history of treettra— the story. he has a history of breaking these— the story. he has a history of breaking these big stories and

eertetrtw— breaking these big stories and eertetrtw r— breaking these big stories and certainly i don't— breaking these big stories and certainly i don't imagine that his certainly i don't imagine that the eeuee— certainly i don't imagine that his source, who— certainly i don't imagine that his source, who we will always proteet. — his source, who we will always proteet. ot— his source, who we will always protect, of course— his source, who we will always protect, of course ,_ his source, who we will always protect, of course , would have protect, of course, would have come from the— protect, of course, would have come from the bbc. i don't tmeatre— come from the bbc. i don't tmearre thet— come from the bbc. i don't imagine that the bbc was truotuet— imagine that the bbc was involved in— imagine that the bbc was involved in that imagine that the bbc was- involved in that-okay. involved in that at all. okay. another— involved in that at all. okay. arether tra— involved in that at all. okay. another big story, course, is involved in that at all. okay. anothrbarclay,)ry, course, is involved in that at all. okay. anothrbarclay, the course, is involved in that at all. okay. anothrbarclay, the royalrse, is involved in that at all. okay. anothrbarclay, the royal college steve barclay, the royal college of nursing just rejected yet another pay offer. is there any end to in sight to this nurses walkout? well well they're going to ballot again, aren't they, for another six months? because because their mandate- 7 because because their mandate runs out at because their mandate runs out et mttrtaht— because their mandate runs out et mttrtaht or— because their mandate runs out at midnight on monday. and thew-ue— at midnight on monday. and thew-ue het— at midnight on monday. and they've had to— at midnight on monday. and they've had to cut this next etrtte— they've had to cut this next etrtte erort— they've had to cut this next strike short because of that . strike short because of that. tut— strike short because of that. tut tt— strike short because of that. tut rt mew— strike short because of that. but it may end— strike short because of that. but it may end because, of course, of the— but it may end because, of course, of the big health unions, gmb— course, of the big health unions, gmb and unions unison heue— unions, gmb and unions unison heue uotet— unions, gmb and unions unison heue uotet to — unions, gmb and unions unison have voted to accept the government's— have voted to accept the government's deal of 5% and a ott— government's deal of 5% and a one off payment.— government's deal of 5% and a one off payment. so have the physiotherapists.— one off payment. so have the physiotherapists. so have the mttwtuee— physiotherapists. so have the midwives. and _ physiotherapists. so have the midwives. and next week there'll be midwives. and next week there'll te e— midwives. and next week there'll te e meettra — midwives. and next week there'll be a meeting and— midwives. and next week there'll be a meeting and all of those uotee— be a meeting and all of those uotee trom— be a meeting and all of those votes from those— be a meeting and all of those votes from those unions will be tertet— votes from those unions will be banded together.— votes from those unions will be banded together. and if the merorrtw— banded together. and if the merorrtw re— banded together. and if the majority is voting to accept the teet. — majority is voting to accept the teet. ther — majority is voting to accept the deal, then that— majority is voting to accept the deal, then that deal will be retet— deal, then that deal will be rottet out— deal, then that deal will be rottet out .— deal, then that deal will be rolled out . even- deal, then that deal will be rolled out . even if the rcn rolled out. even if the rcn heuer-t— rolled out. even if the rcn haven't voted— rolled out. even if the rcn haven't voted for it. so you do

worrte— haven't voted for it. so you do wonder whether— haven't voted for it. so you do wonder whether the rcn , when wonder whether the rcn, when thew— wonder whether the rcn, when thew repeetet— wonder whether the rcn, when they rejected the— wonder whether the rcn, when they rejected the deal there was ortw— they rejected the deal there was ortw tree— they rejected the deal there was only 54% voted— they rejected the deal there was only 54% voted to _ they rejected the deal there was only 54% voted to reject it. there-e— only 54% voted to reject it. there-e ortw— only 54% voted to reject it. there's only 61%- only 54% voted to reject it. there's only 61% turnout out. wtt— there's only 61% turnout out. wttt thew— there's only 61% turnout out. will they really— there's only 61% turnout out. will they really carry on? let r— will they really carry on? let see. i mean, pat— will they really carry on? let see. i mean, pat cullen is tetttra— see. i mean, pat cullen is tettrra verv— see. i mean, pat cullen is tettrra uerw .— see. i mean, pat cullen is talking very , very tough, isn't talking very, very tough, isn't ehee— talking very, very tough, isn't ehee verv— talking very, very tough, isn't she? very tough. _ talking very, very tough, isn't she? very tough. but there's teer— she? very tough. but there's teer er— she? very tough. but there's been an increase— she? very tough. but there's been an increase in one area at teeet— been an increase in one area at teeet. ert— been an increase in one area at teeet. ert thet— been an increase in one area at least, and that is— been an increase in one area at least, and that is last time we epote— least, and that is last time we epote. whteh— least, and that is last time we spoke, which was— least, and that is last time we spoke, which was the withdrawal of spoke, which was the withdrawal ot erttteet— spoke, which was the withdrawal of critical care— spoke, which was the withdrawal of critical care to— spoke, which was the withdrawal of critical care to cancer petterte— of critical care to cancer patients, but— of critical care to cancer patients, but now extend even to ehtttrer-e— patients, but now extend even to children's hospitals , children, children's hospitals, children, termtrettw— children's hospitals, children, terminally ill— children's hospitals, children, terminally ill children could be tertet— terminally ill children could be denied health— terminally ill children could be denied health care. that's not a aoot— denied health care. that's not a good look , is it? and that would good look, is it? and that would good look, is it? and that would go down terribly with the british public. yes. this is a tort— british public. yes. this is a trort peae— british public. yes. this is a trort peae etorw— british public. yes. this is a front page story today- c rt. yes. this is a front page story today about areet— front page story today about great ormond— front page story today about great ormond street and worries etout— great ormond street and worries etout the— great ormond street and worries about the safety— great ormond street and worries about the safety of children and the eetetw— about the safety of children and the eetetw ot— about the safety of children and the safety of children's lives, epeertreettw— the safety of children's lives, epeettteettw .— the safety of children's lives, specifically , it— the safety of children's lives, specifically , it does seem today specifically, it does seem today . thet— specifically, it does seem today . thet the— specifically, it does seem today , now that the rcn are going to proutte— , now that the rcn are going to proutte eeuer— , now that the rcn are going to provide cover in— , now that the rcn are going to provide cover in that hospital teeuee— provide cover in that hospital because obviously this is a very temeatra— because obviously this is a very temearra hort— because obviously this is a very damaging front page story for them. — damaging front page story for them. art— damaging front page story for them. and although they've said this them. and although they've said thte etrtte.— them. and although they've said this strike, there's— them. and although they've said this strike, there's no exemptions.- this strike, there's no exemptions. it is turning out

thet— exemptions. it is turning out thet eoee— exemptions. it is turning out that across different trusts , that across different trusts, across different— that across different trusts, across different individual hoepttete— across different individual hoepttete .— across different individual hospitals , they are in fact hospitals, they are in fact proutttra— hospitals, they are in fact providing some cover because i thtrt— providing some cover because i thtrt the— providing some cover because i think the realisation is they've het— think the realisation is they've het the— think the realisation is they've had the sympathy of the public, heuer-t— had the sympathy of the public, heuer-t thewe— had the sympathy of the public, haven't they? but— had the sympathy of the public, haven't they? but they continue to proutte — haven't they? but they continue to provide this— haven't they? but they continue to provide this really critical tt— to provide this really critical rt wou— to provide this really critical care if you take— to provide this really critical care if you take that away, not ortw— care if you take that away, not ortw ee— care if you take that away, not ortw wou— care if you take that away, not only are you risking people's twee— only are you risking people's ttuee tut— only are you risking people's lives, but you're— only are you risking people's lives, but you're also so rtettra— lives, but you're also so risking public- lives, but you're also so risking public opinion turning eaetret— risking public opinion turning eaetret wou— risking public opinion turning against you, aren't you? okay. cethertre— against you, aren't you? okay. catherine force— against you, aren't you? okay. catherine force thanks for your trput— catherine force thanks for your trput ert— catherine force thanks for your trput ert tete— catherine force thanks for your input and let's pray for a resolution— input and let's pray for a resolution before children resolution before any children eomelhome. — resolution before any children comelhome. now,- resolution before any children come home. trtrrt come to home. now, the government has unveiled a raft of gambling reforms of proposed gambling reforms aimed at protecting vulnerable customers . the white paper customers. the white paper suggests several new rules to help kerb gambling addiction . help kerb gambling addiction. under the proposed changes, young gamblers could face a steak of just £2 for slot steak limit of just £2 for slot machines. online and gamblers who lose large amounts of money could face more checks. well, joining me now is the founder of bet protect adam bradford . good. bet protect adam bradford. good. hello to you, adam. could you help me, please get a handle on how many young people have

gambling problems and what the what the size of this issue is ? what the size of this issue is? well, it's very difficult to tell how many people actually have a gambling problem because a lot of the time it's hidden. it's an addiction that is very difficult to spot. but some of the latest surveys would suggest that there's about 50,000 people under the age of 18 on, which is obviously the legal age of gambling. who actually have a gambling. who actually have a gambling addiction , which is the gambling addiction, which is the most severe type of problem with it, where it's affecting their finances , it's affecting their finances, it's affecting their life, it's affecting their lifestyle . that is quite a big lifestyle. that is quite a big number. i'm sure there's many more who haven't identified themselves as who are probably at risk, as well. so there is a real issue with it in the country . so, adam, we hear a lot country. so, adam, we hear a lot these days, don't we, about about young people being unable to make rational decisions because their prefrontal cortex isn't developed. we saw rules last week about young drivers aren't allowed passengers in cars.is aren't allowed passengers in cars. is it fair, though , to

cars. is it fair, though, to punish all young people with such legislation when really only a few have an issue ? so only a few have an issue? so i think this regulation also goes a bit further to look at the affordability of gambling for anybody who has a problem, adults as well . and there's a adults as well. and there's a consultation which is about to take place about about what those limits should be, which is a good thing because up to now it's largely been , um, it's largely been, um, completely unregulated . i mean, completely unregulated. i mean, the last gambling act that we had was in 2005. so the government is right to say within that period it has developed to the point where you have got basically a casino in your pocket . um, so i'm in your pocket. um, so i'm in favour of us having some kind of restrictions, some kind of monitoring to make sure that companies don't take advantage of people who have a problem . of people who have a problem. but it also allows the rest of the public who don't have a problem to still gamble safely as well . and how would this work as well. and how would this work in practise yes, obviously, if

you're online , you have to give you're online, you have to give your date of birth, your credit card. easier to moderate card. that's easier to moderate . what about a young person . what about if a young person walks a bookies walks into a bookies and sat down a machine ? how down at a slot machine? how would they stopped from from would they be stopped from from gambling as they wanted gambling as much as they wanted ? so companies should already be checking who they're customers are, what their age is, where their income is coming from for many different compliance reasons. but i think in more complicated cases, for instance, where the gambling is done remotely online , then they remotely online, then they should be using technology to look at the data they have on that player, to look at the patterns of when they're playing, how they're playing , if playing, how they're playing, if they're a lot of money they're staking a lot of money at night very quickly, that could a sign. they could be a sign. on if they go from to bust and things from boom to bust and things like there is a lot that like that. there is a lot that i think the industry can do to using technology to be able to keep people safe. isn't the fact of the matter, though, that gambling is a hugely very wealthy form of revenue for the government? it creates 110,000

jobs, according to the gambling commission generates £4.2 billion in tax per year. that's not a small amount of money. so the government can't completely clamp down on this, can they? because gambling is a substantial cash cow to the treasury . yeah, of course. and treasury. yeah, of course. and britain is the world's largest gambling market, believe it or not. so you know, i don't think anybody's saying that we want gambling to be banned because so many people do enjoy it. and you know, it's kind of written into the fabric of our society. right. so many people do it. but i do think , look, there's been i do think, look, there's been this over normalisation of gambling, particularly when we look at young people that advertise around sports, the sponsorships , the use, the sponsorships, the use, the social media. yeah, that's something which the government has really missed the mark on in this white paper. and i think that's something that we still do need to address. what would you do need to address. what would wou eew— do need to address. what would wou eew to— do need to address. what would wou eew to peopte— do need to address. what would you say to people who- r:rtr : er:r: what would you say to people who just ertttetee— you say to people who just criticise this— you say to people who just criticise this kind of movement as criticise this kind of movement ee r-uet— criticise this kind of movement ee ruet rerrw— criticise this kind of movement

as just nanny state? c as just nanny state? it's just interfering in a free market. it's a form of puritanism and prohibition . i disagree . like prohibition. i disagree. like i just said, i don't think that anybody here is saying that gambling should be banned . and, gambling should be banned. and, you know, i think even all of us gamble in many ways in our lives , you know, not even through betting itself. you know, we all take risks . and i think what take risks. and i think what this legislation needs to be aboutis this legislation needs to be about is finding that balance between having a healthy gambling market, which behaves properly and doesn't do things which are against the law , but which are against the law, but also puts in some protection for people where, you know, we are a compassionate state and we are a country who wants to make sure that if someone gets into trouble , there is some kind of trouble, there is some kind of help. there so, for instance, there's a mandatory levy which has been suggested in the white paper where 1% of gross gambling paper where1% of gross gambling revenues is going to go towards more research and more treatment, which is desperately needed for those hundreds of

thousands of people who have a problem because there is no integrated , coordinated integrated, coordinated treatment around at the moment as such. so yeah, no, this is not about banning gambling. it's not about banning gambling. it's not about banning gambling. it's not about trying to tell people what to do or what not to do. this is just about bringing the industry into a more responsible state. okay. adam brown bradford, founder of bet protect, thank you for joining us this afternoon on gb news. well, joining me now for an alternative viewpoint is head of lifestyle economics at the institute of economic affairs , institute of economic affairs, christopher snowden. hello to you, christopher. so i'm assuming that as a free marketeer , you think this is marketeer, you think this is just nanny state nonsense. the government, the long arm of the government, the long arm of the government stopping people, having ? oh, no, i don't. having fun? oh, no, i don't. trtrtt— having fun? oh, no, i don't. extinct hinckley_ hrg 7 oh, no, i don't. extinct hinckley think this kind of extinct hinckley think this kind ot trtra— extinct hinckley think this kind ot thtra te— extinct hinckley think this kind of thing is nanny— extinct hinckley think this kind of thing is nanny state nonsense .—tor- . you know, there's room for reautettor— . you know, there's room for regulation in— . you know, there's room for regulation in my— . you know, there's room for regulation in my questions reettw— regulation in my questions reettw ee— regulation in my questions really are about how this reautettor— really are about how this regulation is— really are about how this regulation is actually going to wort— regulation is actually going to wort|rt-e— regulation is actually going to workllt's.right_ regulation is actually going toj workiit's.right-up work. it's all right coming up wtth— work. it's all right coming up wtth-mee— work. it's all right coming up with nice sounding ideas . with these nice sounding ideas. were—peopte- we're going to check people can ettort—

we're going to check people can erort—thre— we're going to check people can afford—this much.- afford to gamble this much. were— afford to gamble this much. were-to— afford to gamble this much. we're-to-limitsl we're going to have limits on etetee— we're going to have limits on etetee|we— we're going to have limits on etetee|we-r- we're going to have limits on| stakesiwe-i-we stakes. we should i think we ehoutt— stakes. we should i think we should have— stakes. we should i think we should have limits on stakes. aetuettw— should have limits on stakes. actually._there's actually. i don't think there's any— actually. i don't think there's erw—ttmttteeei any reason to have limitless etetee— any reason to have limitless etetee .— any reason to have limitless etetee . art— any reason to have limitless stakes . and the— any reason to have limitless stakes . and the vast majority of stakes. and the vast majority of peopte— stakes. and the vast majority of peopteltheee— stakes. and the vast majority of people these online slot people on these online slot meehtree— people on these online slot meehtree pew— people on these online slot machines pay play for1 or £2 a machines pay play for 1 or £2 a eph— machines pay play for 1 or £2 a eptr erwwew— machines pay play for 1 or £2 a eptr erwwew. r— machines pay play for 1 or £2 a spin anyway. i think it's pretty much— spin anyway. i think it's pretty much irrelevant— spin anyway. i think it's pretty much irrelevant actually. the prettem — much irrelevant actually. the prettemlheue— much irrelevant actually. the problem ihave is— much irrelevant actually. the problem ihave is this- much irrelevant actually. the problem have is this idea that problem i have is this idea that you treat people who are 18 to 24 differently than other adults. sets adults. i think that sets a weird point for other weird pressing point for other areas, particularly in a week where we've heard the where we've heard that the government is allegedly considering young considering banning young drivers of that age from carrying passengers. i don't think we want— carrying passengers. i don't think we want to— carrying passengers. i don't think we want to start- rt.ettr hrg g idon't think we want to start a two ther— think we want to start a two tter eoetetw— think we want to start a two tier society with— think we want to start a two tier society with adults now. art— tier society with adults now. art the— tier society with adults now. and the second— tier society with adults now. and the second thing is the affordability— and the second thing is the affordability checks, which, you trow.— affordability checks, which, you trowleome— affordability checks, which, you know, . some _the - affordability checks, which, you know, some the online know, to some extent the online aemtttra— gambling industry already do this gambling industry already do thte ert— gambling industry already do thte ert thew— gambling industry already do this and they intervene actually in this and they intervene actually tr-more— this and they intervene actually in more sophisticated ways, in much more sophisticated ways, teettra— in much more sophisticated ways, looking—patterns. looking for hazardous patterns of looking for hazardous patterns ot prew— looking for hazardous patterns of play intervening with of play and intervening with text— of play and intervening with text messages,— of play and intervening with text messages, phone calls, utttmetetw— text messages, phone calls, ultimately in— text messages, phone calls, ultimately in some instances, eueperttra— ultimately in some instances, suspending accounts . and if the suspending accounts. and if the aouerrmert— suspending accounts. and if the aouerrmert-to— suspending accounts. and if the government to kind government wants to kind of eotttw— government wants to kind of eotttw-eeroee— government wants to kind of codify across industry, codify that across the industry, thet-e— codify that across the industry, thet-e rot— codify that across the industry, thet-e rot e— codify that across the industry, that's not a bad— codify that across the industry, that's not a bad idea. i've recommended— that's not a bad idea. i've recommended myself in the recommended that myself in the peet. — recommended that myself in the peet. the— recommended that myself in the past. the trouble— recommended that myself in the past. the trouble i— recommended that myself in the past. the trouble i have that past. the trouble i have is that the—wttte- past. the trouble i have is that.

the _white paper the proposals in the white paper here— the proposals in the white paper here ee— the proposals in the white paper here are rather— the proposals in the white paper here are rather vague about what eetuettw— here are rather vague about what eetuettw heppere— here are rather vague about what actually happens if you find out eometotw— actually happens if you find out somebody cannot— actually happens if you find out somebody cannot supposedly ettort— somebody cannot supposedly afford . gamble _ somebody cannot supposedly affordlgamble .- somebody cannot supposedly afford gamble . so, for afford to gamble. so, for exempte— afford to gamble. so, for example, it's— afford to gamble. so, for example, it's going to mandate thet— example, it's going to mandate that companies— example, it's going to mandate that companies have to check up on that companies have to check up or peopte— that companies have to check up or peopte tt— that companies have to check up on people if they've spent £500 a on people if they've spent £500 e weer— on people if they've spent £500 e weer or— on people if they've spent £500 a year on gambling. now that is not a year on gambling. now that is rot uerw— a year on gambling. now that is rot uerw mueh— a year on gambling. now that is not very much on— a year on gambling. now that is not very much on any leisure eettuttw— not very much on any leisure activity really. _ not very much on any leisure activity really. so— not very much on any leisure activity really. so it's a very tow— activity really. so it's a very tow ter— activity really. so it's a very tow ter et— activity really. so it's a very low bar at that— activity really. so it's a very low bar at that point. if you've teet— low bar at that point. if you've toet etee— low bar at that point. if you've toet etee tr— low bar at that point. if you've lost £500 in a— low bar at that point. if you've lost £500 in a year, the there wttt— lost £500 in a year, the there wttt te— lost £500 in a year, the there wttt te whet— lost £500 in a year, the there will be what they— lost £500 in a year, the there will be what they call a frictionless— will be what they call a frictionless check that will toot— frictionless check that will toot tor— frictionless check that will look for things— frictionless check that will look for things like have you ever been bankrupt? have you ever-eourtw— ever been bankrupt? have you ever-county court- ever had a county court rutaemerte— ever had a county court judgement? well, lot of people judgement? well, a lot of people eetuettw—ccr- judgement? well, a lot of people eetuettw—ccr m- judgement? well, a lot of people actually ccj in their actually have had a ccj in their the.— actually have had a ccj in their the. a— actually have had a ccj in their the. a tot— actually have had a ccj in their the. a tot ot— actually have had a ccj in their life. a lot of people have businesses— life. a lot of people have businesses have businesses that have gone tertrupt. — bankrupt. it doesn't mean that thew— bankrupt. it doesn't mean that. thew—row. they can't afford to gamble now. so they can't afford to gamble now. so mw— they can't afford to gamble now. so mw aueettom— they can't afford to gamble now. so my question,-is- they can't afford to gamble now. so my question, is not so my question, which is not erewereht-- so my question, which is not answered-in this- so my question, which is not answered in this white answered at all in this white paper— answered at all in this white peper—tol paper is let's say that i do toee— paper is let's say that i do toee etee. — paper is let's say that i do lose £500. let's- paper is let's say that i do lose £500. let's say i have got a lose £500. let's say i have got e ttte— lose £500. let's say i have got e ttte whet— lose £500. let's say i have got a erg what then— lose £500. let's say i have got a erg what then happens? do i tuet— a erg what then happens? do i ruet aet— a erg what then happens? do i ruet aet ttetet— a erg what then happens? do i just get kicked off the website? do just get kicked off the website? to-ttetet— just get kicked off the website? do-kicked off— just get kicked off the website? do kicked off every do i get kicked off every aemtttra— do i get kicked off everyi aemtttra—tt do i get kicked off every- aemttrra—tt gambling website? and if so, whet— gambling website? and if so, whet-thew— gambling website? and if so, what-they think- gambling website? and if so, what they think going to what do they think i'm going to do? what do they think i'm going to toe—tm- what do they think i'm going to toe—rm tuet- what do they think i'm going toi toe—rm ruet aorra what do they think i'm going to do stop i'm just going what do they think i'm going to do stop gambling? i'm just going what do they think i'm going to do stop gambling? because going to stop gambling? because i wort— to stop gambling? because i wor-t.—towrl to stop gambling? because ii won't._down the won't. i'll either go down the eeetro-htah— won't. i'll either go down the casino high street casino or the high street bookmakers— casino or the high street bookmakers go on bookmakers or i'll go on an urreautetet— bookmakers or i'll go on an unregulated website. yeah. and do unregulated website. yeah. and to wou— unregulated website. yeah. and

to wou thtrt— unregulated website. yeah. and do you think it's— unregulated website. yeah. and do you think it's fair to say, chrte— do you think it's fair to say, chris berman,_ do you think it's fair to say, chris berman, that huge amount of chris berman, that huge amount ot—tor- chris berman, that huge amount ot—tor the- of money generated for the treeeurw— of money generated for the treeeurw tw— of money generated for the treasury by gambling £14 billion per aoee— treasury by gambling £14 billion per annum gross as we saw per annum gross as we saw reeerttw— per annum gross as we saw reeerttw .— per annum gross as we saw recently , getting tough on recently, getting tough on sponsors for— recently, getting tough on sponsors for gambling companies on sponsors for gambling companies or toottett— sponsors for gambling companies on football shirts— sponsors for gambling companies on football shirts is this aeeture— on football shirts is this gesture politics is this seeming to to— gesture politics is this seeming to do something— gesture politics is this seeming to do something ? ”rteccg to do something? but really, the truth of the matter is the treasury is addicted to gambling itself . if possibly. i mean, itself. if possibly. i mean, when itself. if possibly. i mean, wher there— itself. if possibly. i mean, when there was- itself. if possibly. i mean, when there was the- �*7 i mean, when there was the clampdown itself. if possibly. i mean,- when there was the clampdown on the treet— when there was the clampdown on the heet otte— when there was the clampdown on the fixed odds betting terminals a the fixed odds betting terminals etew— the fixed odds betting terminals e tew veere— the fixed odds betting terminals etew weere eae— the fixed odds betting terminals a few years ago, there was a huae— a few years ago, there was a huae emoum— a few years ago, there was a huge amount pressure do huge amount of pressure to do thet.— huge amount of pressure to do thet. tut— huge amount of pressure to do thet. tut the— huge amount of pressure to do that, but the government didn't eetuettw— that, but the government didn't actually-until— that, but the government didn't actually until philip actually do it until philip uemmert— actually do it until philip hammond—onl actually do it until philip hammond—on remote hammond put up tax on on remote aemtttra— hammond put up tax on on remote aemtttralorttre— hammond put up tax on on remote gambling, online gambling, gambling, on online gambling, the—tetttra- gambling, on online gambling, the talking about gambling, on online gambling, the so talking about gambling, on online gambling, the so to talking about gambling, on online gambling, the so to somealking about gambling, on online gambling, the so to some extent, bout gambling, on online gambling, the so to some extent, thet now. so to some extent, the aouerrmert— now. so to some extent, the aouerrmert te— now. so to some extent, the government is addicted to these tut— government is addicted to these revenues, but people have said thet— revenues, but people have said thet etout— revenues, but people have said that about smoking the past. that about smoking in the past. art— that about smoking in the past. artlheer-t— that about smoking in the past. and hasn't stopped the and it hasn't stopped the aouerrmert— government clamping down in a big government clamping down in a to wew— government clamping down in a to wew or— government clamping down in a big way on smoking. so i think the—te— big way on smoking. so i think the—is sincere- the government is sincere about the— the government is sincere about ttte—the- this. i think a lot of the anti—gambling campaign is are eetuettw— anti—gambling campaign is are actually anti—gambling per actually just anti—gambling per se. actually just anti—gambling per ee-them— actually just anti—gambling per ee-them mew- actually just anti—gambling per se. them may genuinely se. some of them may genuinely just se. some of them may genuinely tuet wert— se. some of them may genuinely tuet wert-herm- se. some of them may genuinely just want harm here or just want to reduce harm here or there.— just want to reduce harm here or there-thtrt— just want to reduce harm here or there,-thinkllot- just want to reduce harm here or there,-thinkllot of- just want to reduce harm here or there, think lot of them there, but i think a lot of them tuet— there, but i think a lot of them tuet wert— there, but i think a lot of them ruet wert to— there, but i think a lot of them ruet wert to aet— there, but i think a lot of them just want to get rid of gambling as just want to get rid of gambling ee mueh— just want to get rid of gambling as much as possible. of just want to get rid of gambling as ioi'ie] as possible. of just want to get rid of gambling as tone of; possible. of just want to get rid of gambling as tone of the ssible. of just want to get rid of gambling

as tone of the dangerous of just want to get rid of gambling as tone of the dangerous things the one of the dangerous things in the one of the dangerous things tr-whtte— the one of the dangerous things tr-whtte peper— the one of the dangerous things in white paper, not a lot in this white paper, not a lot of in this white paper, not a lot ot—ptetet- in this white paper, not a lot. ot—ptetet-tt of people have picked up on it wee-ettutet- of people have picked up on it was-alluded to- of people have picked up on it was-alluded to by- of people have picked up on it was alluded to by your was kind of alluded to by your teet— was kind of alluded to by your teet aueet— was kind of alluded to by your last guest. this— was kind of alluded to by your last guest. this this levy on aemtttra—aaetri last guest. this this levy on- gambling_again i've gambling companies. again i've got gambling companies. again i've aot—wtth— gambling companies. again i've aot—wtth thet- gambling companies. again i've aot—wtth thet .- gambling companies. again i've got with that , that got no problem with that, that aemtttra— got no problem with that, that gambling companies already gambling companies were already eperttra— gambling companies were already eperttra troo— gambling companies were already spending £100 million a year on on spending £100 million a year on or treetmert— spending £100 million a year on on treatment for— spending £100 million a year on on treatment for problem aemtttra— on treatment for problem gambling anyway , they this is gambling anyway, they this is aorra— gambling anyway, they this is aorra to— gambling anyway, they this is aorra to te— gambling anyway, they this is now going to be basically mertetorw— now going to be basically mertetorw .— now going to be basically mandatory . see, my fear is, in mandatory. see, my fear is, in teet— mandatory. see, my fear is, in fact, the— mandatory. see, my fear is, in fact, thte te— mandatory. see, my fear is, in fact, this is a— mandatory. see, my fear is, in fact, this is a prediction i wttt— fact, this is a prediction i wttt mete— fact, this is a prediction i will make a— fact, this is a prediction i will make a lot of that money wttt— will make a lot of that money wttt aet— will make a lot of that money will get hived_ will make a lot of that money will get hived off— will make a lot of that money will get hived off various will get hived off to various anti—gambling— will get hived off to various anti—gambling activists and eeteme— anti—gambling activists and academics and— anti—gambling activists and academics and the research they do .— academics and the research they to . eo—eettet— academics and the research they do , so—called, will— academics and the research they do , so—called, will all be along do, so—called, will all be along the three— do, so—called, will all be along the three ot— do, so—called, will all be along the lines of let's— do, so—called, will all be along the lines of let's treat aemtttra— the lines of let's treat gambling like tobacco. and that, i gambling like tobacco. and that, r urn,— gambling like tobacco. and that, rthtrt. opere— gambling like tobacco. and that, r thtrt. opere up— gambling like tobacco. and that, i think, opens up a— gambling like tobacco. and that, i think, opens up a whole new tett— i think, opens up a whole new ttett. art— i think, opens up a whole new ttett. art r— i think, opens up a whole new field. and i think— i think, opens up a whole new field. and i think we'll be tetttra— field. and i think we'll be talking about— field. and i think we'll be talking about this for years to teeh — talking about this for years to teeh e— talking about this for years to come. yeah t : come. yeah > christopher, i used to do a lot of work talking to young addiction and to do a lot of work talking to you government addiction and to do a lot of work talking to you government ctinsisted and to do a lot of work talking to you government ctinsisted thei the government then insisted the way was technology . way around this was technology. let's stop people accessing it. but i know as well as you know, young people are cleverer young people are a lot cleverer than will than politicians. they will simply go simply get around it. they'll go abroad , they'll use different abroad, they'll use different servers. so really, you can't stop gambling, can you? stop people gambling, can you? if they want to it, they'll if they want to do it, they'll

find now, with find a way. well now, with regards to people under the age of 18, hardly anyone, anyone gambles at that age, it's really difficult a regulated difficult to do on a regulated website they will very website because they will very easily check how old you are. you've got use a debit you've got to use a debit card, hatte— you've got to use a debit card, rtahte—er- you've got to use a debit card, right?_an issue.| right? so that's not an issue. the— right? so that's not an issue. the prettem— right? so that's not an issue. the problem is— right? so that's not an issue. the problem is if— right? so that's not an issue. the problem is if people move to ape.— the problem is if people move to the. wou— the problem is if people move to the. wou trow.— the problem is if people move to the, you know, use— the problem is if people move to the, you know, use a— the problem is if people move to the, you know, use a vpn and use an the, you know, use a vpn and use er—wetette.- the, you know, use a vpn and use er—wetette. thew- an unregulated website, they eetuettw— an unregulated website, they actually even _ an unregulated website, they actually even then are quite tttetw— actually even then are quite tttetw to— actually even then are quite tttetw to te— actually even then are quite likely to be able to tell how ott— likely to be able to tell how ott wou— likely to be able to tell how ott wou — likely to be able to tell how ott wou r— likely to be able to tell how old you are. i mean, they're not tte— old you are. i mean, they're not he rot— old you are. i mean, they're not it's not complete— old you are. i mean, they're not it's not complete wild west, thew-re— they're just not regulated by by they're just not regulated by by the-commission- they're just not regulated by by the-commission .- they're just not regulated by by the commission . and so the gambling commission. and so wher—etout- the gambling commission. and so when about underage when people talk about underage aemttere— when people talk about underage gamblers,-previous- gamblers, like your previous aueet— gamblers, like your previous guest-actually- gamblers, like your previous guest actually kids guest was actually these kids are guest was actually these kids thew-re — guest was actually these kids are they're betting with each other.— are they're betting with each other-ptewtra- are they're betting with each other. playing scratch other. they're playing scratch eerte— other. they're playing scratch eerte whteh— other. they're playing scratch cards, which are— other. they're playing scratch cards, which are still legal at the— cards, which are still legal at the-ert— cards, which are still legal at the-ert rt.- cards, which are still legal at the-and 17. they. cards, which are still legal at the and 17. they are the age of 16 and 17. they are thew— the age of 16 and 17. they are thew ee— the age of 16 and 17. they are thew rot— the age of 16 and 17. they are they are not gambling online. so i they are not gambling online. so r tor-t— they are not gambling online. so r tor-t thtrt— they are not gambling online. so i don't think we— they are not gambling online. so i don't think we need to worry too— i don't think we need to worry too much— i don't think we need to worry too much about— i don't think we need to worry too much about people underage aemtttra— too much about people underage gambling online.— too much about people underage gambling online. as for people too much about people underage gam areg online. as for people too much about people underage gam are 18tnline. as for people too much about people underage gam are 18>nli24, as for people too much about people underage gam are 18>nli24, they'reteople who are 18 to 24, they're etutte— who are 18 to 24, they're etutte. r— who are 18 to 24, they're adults. i think- who are 18 to 24, they're adults. i think we should treat them — adults. i think we should treat them exeettw— adults. i think we should treat them exactly-as- adults. i think we should treat them exactly as any them exactly the same as any other— them exactly the same as any other-thre— them exactly the same as any other chris snowden , other adult. chris snowden, eeeettert— other adult. chris snowden, excellent insight. thank you for joining on gb news. joining us today on gb news. you're watching and listening to gb news saturday with me, martin daubney more up on daubney lots more coming up on today's including is it

today's show, including is it okay to cull the gulls that nix your chips? i like that one. our reporter, anna riley has been out and about to see why one council is spending thousands to remove seabird nests . but first, remove seabird nests. but first, let's take a look at the weather with marco . hello, i'm marco with marco. hello, i'm marco petagna and welcome to your latest weather update from the met office . for the rest of this met office. for the rest of this weekend, on mixed weekend, we hold on to a mixed bag across uk. bag of weather across the uk. there'll some there'll be some sunshine, some heavy , but feeling heavy showers, but feeling pleasantly warm the pleasantly warm when the sun comes reason comes through. the reason for the conditions is down to the mixed conditions is down to the mixed conditions is down to the fact we've got high pressure towards pressure towards the east, low pressure out west. that's out towards the west. that's giving us light winds, a slack pressure the pressure gradient across the uk, but those but equally allowing those showers at times . showers to develop at times. heavy showers end the day heavy showers to end the day across and north—west across the west and north—west of uk. and we're continuing across the west and north—west of showers we're continuing across the west and north—west of showers we're tthesejing to see showers across these northern areas as we northern and western areas as we head through the rest of the evening into the overnight penod evening into the overnight period skies down period with a clearer skies down towards the south—east and up towards the south—east and up towards north—east the towards the north—east of the uk. low cloud and mist uk. some low cloud and mist patches. the best the patches. but as the best of the clearer patches. but as the best of the cleait's here, we'll see the and it's here, we'll see the lowest temperatures to to lowest temperatures to down to six in south—east six degrees in the south—east possibly close to freezing

across north—east of across the north—east of scotland, we could scotland, where we could see a touch frost and milder, touch of frost and milder, though, cloud though, under the cloud out towards west. it's here towards the west. and it's here we'll showers the word we'll see showers from the word go some still quite go on sunday, some still quite heavy, showers heavy, even thundery showers to contend . and those showers contend with. and those showers tending widely tending to break out more widely as we go through the day on sunday. of sunday. still, the south—east of england best england holding on to the best of sunshine staying of the sunshine and staying generally dry think generally dry here. i think through but generally dry here. i think thriugh but generally dry here. i think thriugh some but generally dry here. i think thriugh some quite but generally dry here. i think thriugh some quite heavy but as i say, some quite heavy downpours developing particularly northern particularly across northern ireland go into sunday ireland as we go into sunday afternoon in the sunshine towards the south, we'll see highs 17 18. locally, 19 highs of 17 to 18. locally, 19 degrees, still chilly degrees, but still chilly towards north—east towards the north—east of scotland into the evening, scotland and into the evening, the tend to migrate the showers tend to migrate their way eastwards across the uk. i think even the uk. so i think even the south—east will start see south—east will start to see some developing we go some showers developing as we go through , whereas through sunday night, whereas out west showers out towards the west the showers will see will start to ease. we'll see some clearer but with some clearer spells, but with the there's still the fact that there's still a fair no fair amount of cloud around no issues temperatures on issues with temperatures on sunday holding sunday night generally holding up , 7 to 10 degrees up in the rain, 7 to 10 degrees on monday, bank holiday monday. of course, the focus for the showers will be towards east showers will be towards the east and south—east of england. again, 1 or 2 heavy showers around rain around here. some patchy rain

towards the north of scotland, but , with higher but elsewhere, with higher pressure we should pressure dominating, we should see a lot of fine and settled weather with temperatures climbing quite nicely into the high on to high teens. and we hold on to plenty weather across plenty of fine weather across the of the uk tuesday the bulk of the uk on tuesday and with warm and wednesday with further warm sunshine

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scarborough, concerns have been raised about the number of gulls flying around the town centre and causing mayhem. the council has £30,000 to remove the has spent £30,000 to remove the seabirds nests and o'reilly has this report . scarborough is this report. scarborough is a tewet— this report. scarborough is a tewet tr— this report. scarborough is a rewet hr the— this report. scarborough is a jewel in the crown- trt;:rrtrc scarborough is a jewel in the crown in yorkshire's- jewel in the crown in yorkshire's coast. the sea, sand ert— yorkshire's coast. the sea, sand ert ot— yorkshire's coast. the sea, sand ert ot eouree— yorkshire's coast. the sea, sand and of course, seagulls . but and of course, seagulls. but wtth— and of course, seagulls. but wtth the— and of course, seagulls. but with the nesting— and of course, seagulls. but with the nesting season starts mer— with the nesting season starts .na, tt— with the nesting season starts .na, rt trtrae— with the nesting season starts ing, it brings an— with the nesting season starts ing, it brings an increase in the— ing, it brings an increase in the rumte— ing, it brings an increase in the number of— ing, it brings an increase in the number of the seabirds which can cause problems for visitors as can cause problems for visitors ee wett— can cause problems for visitors ee wett ee— can cause problems for visitors as well as locals— can cause problems for visitors as well as locals. _ can cause problems for visitors as well as locals . �*ft�*rt; etrt; h as well as locals. we are in a part of scarborough near the iconic grand hotel that has become known as gull alley . so become known as gull alley. so just behind me is a nesting- t cc.cc so just behind me is a nesting spot for just behind me is a nesting spot tor our— just behind me is a nesting spot for our kittiwakes_ just behind me is a nesting spot for our kittiwakes and herring autte. — for our kittiwakes and herring autte. art— for our kittiwakes and herring autte. art we— for our kittiwakes and herring gulls. and we have- for our kittiwakes and herring gulls. hr: grtrc gulls. and we have got issues with excrement, issues with noise as you can hear. and we have also had issues of gulls swooping and attacking people. so a big concerns, big issues whteh— so a big concerns, big issues whteh wee— so a big concerns, big issues which we're working to resolve as which we're working to resolve ee e toeet— which we're working to resolve as a local authority . ' rt; as a local authority. arnie etare— as a local authority. arnie erare trtt— as a local authority. arnie signs fill the town , deterring signs fill the town, deterring people from feeding seagulls and

the council also have measures to keep the streets clean. we have specialist machine- h we have specialist machine free to do have specialist machine free to to thet.— have specialist machine free to to thet. to— have specialist machine free to do that, to deal— have specialist machine free to do that, to deal with the mess on do that, to deal with the mess or the— do that, to deal with the mess on the streets— do that, to deal with the mess on the streets and— do that, to deal with the mess on the streets and on the peuemerte— on the streets and on the pavements. we- on the streets and on the pavements. we are also investing in pavements. we are also investing tr autt— pavements. we are also investing tr autt preet— pavements. we are also investing in gull proof measures, so we eupporttra— in gull proof measures, so we are supporting the properties to thet— are supporting the properties to ensure that they— are supporting the properties to ensure that they can keep gulls ewew— ensure that they can keep gulls ewew .— ensure that they can keep gulls ewew . teep— ensure that they can keep gulls away , keep nests— ensure that they can keep gulls away , keep nests away. we have away, keep nests away. we have tore— away, keep nests away. we have tore e— away, keep nests away. we have done a programme— away, keep nests away. we have done a programme of egg and nest emouet— done a programme of egg and nest emouet tr— done a programme of egg and nest emouet hr the— done a programme of egg and nest removal in the past— done a programme of egg and nest removal in the past recent works on removal in the past recent works or the— removal in the past recent works or the sper— removal in the past recent works on the spar footbridge as well. thet-e— on the spar footbridge as well. thet-e pert— on the spar footbridge as well. there pert ot— on the spar footbridge as well. that's part of the— on the spar footbridge as well. that's part of the works which tetra— that's part of the works which tetra . — that's part of the works which we're doing . : t;hr: we're doing. feathered friend or a noisy nuisance? scarborough had its say on the seagulls in the town. it can be quite eaareeetue— the town. it can be quite aggressive, you - it can be quite aggressive, you know, trying to tete — aggressive, you know, trying to tete wour— aggressive, you know, trying to take your food _ aggressive, you know, trying to take your food and just aererettw— take your food and just generally just being a nuisance . reettw. — generally just being a nuisance . reettw. rte— generally just being a nuisance , really. it's their— generally just being a nuisance , really. c . : h ' hr: , really. it's their domain. and unless you can get up there with them, they're right. like you can well. we love them. it's can do well. we love them. it's part— can do well. we love them. it's pert ot— can do well. we love them. it's pert ot the— can do well. we love them. it's part of the seaside. _ can do well. we love them. it's part of the seaside. - t h r:rtr we love them. it's part of the seaside. t/rt;e h t h r:rtr we love them. it's part of the seaside. / part of the seaside. yeah, but i thtrt— part of the seaside. yeah, but i think if you've got food , they think if you've got food, they might be a bit of a pest, but. yeah, but other than that, i ttte— yeah, but other than that, i

ttte them.— yeah, but other than that, i ttte them. — yeah, but other than that, i like them. hrt;g ”rt; yeah, but other than that, i like them. hrtg ”rt; yeah, but other than that, i like them. hrt;g ”rt; like them. they're part of the environment. i like to hear gulls calling. don't mind gulls calling. i don't mind seeing but seeing them around, but i wouldn't by wouldn't want to be mugged by them. it that way. them. let's put it that way. for businesses here, it's rmportert— for businesses here, it's important to— for businesses here, it's important to keep scarborough a eete— important to keep scarborough a eete ert— important to keep scarborough a safe and enjoyable place to wet— safe and enjoyable place to wet. — safe and enjoyable place to visit . 33tc3tc,c safe and enjoyable place to visit . 33oc,c safe and enjoyable place to visit . 330.515 h visit. scarborough is sun shining as we say, regularly? it's a great place to come and visit. but please, if you do come, please, do not come, please, please do not throw food at the gulls throw your food at the gulls because attack you . because they will attack you. that's they do. and some of that's what they do. and some of the really quite that's what they do. and some of the severe really quite that's what they do. and some of the severe bleedingjite that's what they do. and some of the severe bleeding .te that's what they do. and some of the severe bleeding . it severe, severe bleeding. it would one to an eye or would only take one to an eye or we head injuries too. so we see head injuries too. so i think we've been very lucky and i'm not whether across the i'm not sure whether across the uk seen some serious uk we haven't seen some serious injuries. but i it's only injuries. but i think it's only a time here in a matter of time here in scarborough see scarborough until we see something serious. well, something fairly serious. well, there's few seagulls there's certainly a few seagulls etrettra— there's certainly a few seagulls etrettra me— there's certainly a few seagulls circling me now— there's certainly a few seagulls circling me now trying to get a ttte— circling me now trying to get a ttte ot— circling me now trying to get a ttte ot mw— circling me now trying to get a bite of my fish— circling me now trying to get a bite of my fish and chips. but the meeeeea— bite of my fish and chips. but the message here— bite of my fish and chips. but the message here is- bite of my fish and chips. but the message here is for your own safety , don't feed the seagulls safety, don't feed the seagulls . anna riley gb news safety, don't feed the seagulls- . anna riley gb news scarborough paw.— . anna riley gb news scarborough how. r— . anna riley gb news scarborough how. r thtrt— . anna riley gb news scarborough now, i think anna— anna riley gb news scarborough now, i think anna was putting hereett— now, i think anna was putting hereett tr— now, i think anna was putting herself in harm's— now, i think anna was putting herself in harm's way there, tuet— herself in harm's way there, ruet terattra— herself in harm's way there, just dangling that fish supper to the— just dangling that fish supper to the ttwrra— just dangling that fish supper to the flying rats . h

to the flying rats. i mean, i'm verv— to the flying rats. i mean, i'm very much of the camp. they're a bit of a nuisance on the seaside. let us know what you think on topic, because think on that topic, because plenty get in plenty of you have been get in touch today's show already so touch on today's show already so far . ian jj says far on immigration. ian jj says why aren't there formal challenges against the specific countries that persecute their citizens to such an extent that they are forced to flee for their lives? would surely be their lives? it would surely be a effective policy to a much more effective policy to root out the cause. it's a great point. jj the idea that people are going away from countries because they're so bad in the first isn't the first place, why isn't the problem levelled at them rather than welcoming haven than us being a welcoming haven to the world who to anybody in the world who wants angie also wants to come here? angie also says, i don't get why our judicial system works against the people of this country. there is a potential army of thousands of young men of fighting age spread around who don't share our values or even like us very much at all. where are our human rights to be safe in our own country ? a lot of in our own country? a lot of people are echoing that sentiment , people are echoing that sentiment, angie. there's very much a feeling that a limitless hospitality is being stretched

to breaking point and that legendary british welcoming spirit being sorely tested on the nurses strikes. sarah has this to say. the nurses had a pay this to say. the nurses had a pay rise last july, which seems to have been forgotten . that's to have been forgotten. that's a fair point. and i think the demands of 17.5% plus are really stretching the limits of what we can even afford. surely such a pay can even afford. surely such a pay rise would bankrupt the country on the sussexes david says the royal family was wrong not to ship the duke and duchess of their titles to strip them sorry of their titles. it was obvious the was to continue obvious the rift was to continue in the manner it has. obvious the rift was to continue in the manner it has . well, in the manner it has. well, certainly we spent a lot of time talking about meghan and harry. i'm looking forward to one thing, just enjoying the day itself. let us know what you think. views coming in think. keep your views coming in and don't forget, and please don't forget, subscribe youtube subscribe to our youtube channel. we're, of course, at gb news. so you're watching and listening to gb news saturday with me, martin daubney. coming up on today's show, the final evacuation flights out of sudan

will take place today, but how many people will be left behind ? and what challenges does the uk government still face in the war torn region ? i'll speak to a war torn region? i'll speak to a former chair of cobra

channel. britain is watching . channel. britain is watching. welcome back to gb news channel. britain is watching. - welcome back to gb news saturday with welcome back to gb news saturday wtth me— welcome back to gb news saturday wtth arerttr— welcome back to gb news saturday with me, martin daubney on your tv, with me, martin daubney on your w, orttre— with me, martin daubney on your w, orttre ert— with me, martin daubney on your tv, online and on— with me, martin daubney on your tv, online and on your digital retro— tv, online and on your digital retro .— tv, online and on your digital retro . the— tv, online and on your digital radio . the final— tv, online and on your digital radio . the final evacuation radio. the final evacuation tttahte— radio. the final evacuation ttrahte out— radio. the final evacuation flights out of— radio. the final evacuation flights out of sudan will take pteee— flights out of sudan will take pteee teter— flights out of sudan will take place later today. the deadline for place later today. the deadline tor trttteh— place later today. the deadline for british nationals to reach the— for british nationals to reach the evacuation— for british nationals to reach the evacuation airfield has now peeeet— the evacuation airfield has now peeeet teeptte— the evacuation airfield has now passed despite a— the evacuation airfield has now passed despite a ceasefire being extertet— passed despite a ceasefire being extended this— passed despite a ceasefire being extended this week. five thing hee— extended this week. five thing has continued— extended this week. five thing has continued in— extended this week. five thing has continued in sudan with trttteh— has continued in sudan with british nationals still trapped in british nationals still trapped tr the— british nationals still trapped in the country. _ british nationals still trapped in the country. well, joining me te— in the country. well, joining me former— in the country. well, joining me now is former british infantry commander, good friend of mine, cotoret— commander, good friend of mine, colonel richard— commander, good friend of mine, colonel richard kemp. welcome to the ehow. — colonel richard kemp. welcome to the show. colonel— colonel richard kemp. welcome to the show. colonel kemp, first of allu— the show. colonel kemp, first of ett how— the show. colonel kemp, first of ett how he— the show. colonel kemp, first of all, how is active,— the show. colonel kemp, first of all, how is active, would you say,— all, how is active, would you say hee— all, how is active, would you eew. hee the— all, how is active, would you say, has the evacuation process teer— say, has the evacuation process teer ot— say, has the evacuation process teer ot eouree— say, has the evacuation process been of course, the— say, has the evacuation process been of course, the british government _ been of course, the british government had a lot of ertttetem — government had a lot of

criticism around afghanistan, but criticism around afghanistan, tut how— criticism around afghanistan, but how successful logistically has but how successful logistically hee the— but how successful logistically has the campaign been in sudan ? has the campaign been in sudan? wett— has the campaign been in sudan? wert. r— has the campaign been in sudan? wert. r thtrt— has the campaign been in sudan? wert. r thtrt tt— has the campaign been in sudan? well, i think it seems— has the campaign been in sudan? well, i think it seems to- has the campaign been in sudan? well, i think it seems to work quite well , despite the various quite well, despite the various criticisms that were levelled probably mostly by people that didn't understand the didn't actually understand the situation. i think the government hasn't delayed things slightly in order to be as safe rather than rapid , but it rather than rapid, but it appears they've taken out something around 1500 people, british passport holders from sudan an and my understanding is that there's now pretty much no one else who wants to get out, who's in a position to get out now , of course, there'll be many now, of course, there'll be many more british passport holders, perhaps another 1500 or more who are there, who who. it's their home. they they don't leave despite the dangers. so i think i think it you know, it appears we may find differently when the kind of wash up takes place. but it appears to have been a successful operation as far as the cause of the outbreak of war there. and british involvement there.— there. and british involvement there. e— there. and british involvement there. e tot— there. and british involvement there, a lot of— ”rt; and british involvement there, a lot of people have been

eewtra— there, a lot of people have been eewtra thre— there, a lot of people have been eewtra the re— there, a lot of people have been saying this is the— there, a lot of people have been saying this is the legacy of ther— saying this is the legacy of british empire.— saying this is the legacy of british empire. how how kind of how— british empire. how how kind of how legitimate— british empire. how how kind of how legitimate do— british empire. how how kind of how legitimate do you think that ertttetem — how legitimate do you think that ertttetem te— how legitimate do you think that criticism is that— how legitimate do you think that criticism is that we have our ttraerprrrte— criticism is that we have our fingerprints on— criticism is that we have our fingerprints on this ? r:rtrh c fingerprints on this? i don't thtrt— fingerprints on this? i don't thtrt we— fingerprints on this? i don't think we can— fingerprints on this? i don't think we can be— fingerprints on this? i don't think we can be held responsible for the conflict going on there . you know, we really pretty much ceased to have any strong connections with sudan many, many years ago. and a lot has changed and a lot has happened since then. i think what this is, is a battle between effectively two warlords. general duran , who is the chief general duran, who is the chief of staff of the sudanese armed forces , and general hemeti, who forces, and general hemeti, who is who was his deputy and is commanding an organisation called the rapid support forces. and it's really a conflict between the two of them for power in the country . and i power in the country. and i think, you know, arguably also for being able to loot as much as either of them can from the natural resources of the country. and i think if i was to be pointing the finger at any foreign country , arnie outside foreign country, arnie outside

of sudan for culpability here or shared culpability, i would look at russia for the wagner group and president putin have been actively engaged in the conflict there. they've been training and equipping the rapid support forces. they've been looting gold from sudan with the connivance of the rapid support forces for a number of years. and they're, you know , they're and they're, you know, they're in the process of developing strategic relationships with elements of the sudan government to build a russian naval base in port sudan . so i think if port sudan. so i think if there's if i was to identify any foreign player as having responsibility or any form of responsibility or any form of responsibility here, it would be russia, not the uk. okay richard, another idea that's been thrown out there by some is the idea that britain should excite to send a ukrainian style refugee system. anybody who's tteetra — refugee system. anybody who's tteerra euter— refugee system. anybody who's fleeing sudan and— refugee system. anybody who's fleeing sudan and the- ht;7c.rgrt;rt; erg anybody who's fleeing sudan and the war should be fleeing sudan and the war should te ettowet— fleeing sudan and the war should be allowed into— fleeing sudan and the war should be allowed into our— fleeing sudan and the war should be allowed into our country . as be allowed into our country. as an be allowed into our country. as er expert— be allowed into our country. as er expert or— be allowed into our country. as an expert on international counter—terror— an expert on international

counter—terror ism, what kind of threet— counter—terror ism, what kind of threet to— counter—terror ism, what kind of threet to wou— counter—terror ism, what kind of threat do you think— counter—terror ism, what kind of threat do you think that may poee— threat do you think that may poee to— threat do you think that may pose to-national- pose to british national eeeurttw— pose to british national eeeurttw e— pose to british national security ? well, i think we need security? well, i think we need to te— security? well, i think we need to be extremely— security? well, i think we need to be extremely cautious about erwthtra— to be extremely cautious about erwthrra ttte— to be extremely cautious about anything like that . cit” rt.rtrc. anything like that. of course, we heue— anything like that. of course, we have an obligation to take in british passport holders, even those i think in the majority of cases of people coming out of sudan british passports , sudan with british passports, these people that these are these are people that live in sudan. it's not i mean, there obviously there are exceptions, and exceptions, aid workers and people sudan exceptions, aid workers and petholiday sudan exceptions, aid workers and petholiday and sudan exceptions, aid workers and petholiday and indeed sudan exceptions, aid workers and petholiday and indeed somerudan exceptions, aid workers and petholiday and indeed some i'mn on holiday and indeed some i'm aware of some cases where there were, you know , nhs workers, not were, you know, nhs workers, not british passport holders, but people who work in the nhs who were visiting sudan . so i think were visiting sudan. so i think it's right that we should do what we can to take care of them, but we shouldn't. we i don't think i don't think britain has a liability to take in masses of refugees. there are, there are neighbouring safe neighbouring countries where refugees can go to and already have started going in their hundreds of thousands heading i think may may in due course be heading to some of the neighbouring countries. there'll be much better off in my view ,

be much better off in my view, most of them in in the region where you know, close to where they belong and can more easily return. i don't think we would want to take responsibility for hundreds of thousands of sudanese refugees . and of sudanese refugees. and of course, as you allude to among them , there may well people them, there may well be people who would wish harm to the country, as we've seen with refugees coming from other parts of in the past. of this region in the past. yeah, i mean, we've seen htetorteettw— yeah, i mean, we've seen historically, colonel kemp, that euter— historically, colonel kemp, that suter hee— historically, colonel kemp, that sudan has harboured terrorists trom— sudan has harboured terrorists trom remee— sudan has harboured terrorists from hamas, islamic state, known retemtet— from hamas, islamic state, known islamist terrorists. _ from hamas, islamic state, known islamist terrorists. so really, the— islamist terrorists. so really, the thet— islamist terrorists. so really, the final answer— islamist terrorists. so really, the final answer to those who say— the final answer to those who eew we— the final answer to those who eew we ehoutt— the final answer to those who say we should throw our borders oper— say we should throw our borders oper to— say we should throw our borders oper to erwtotw— say we should throw our borders open to anybody from sudan who ehooeee— open to anybody from sudan who ehooeee to— open to anybody from sudan who chooses to come— open to anybody from sudan who chooses to come to— open to anybody from sudan who chooses to come to uk is, you trow.— chooses to come to uk is, you trow. woue— chooses to come to uk is, you trow. wouue aot— chooses to come to uk is, you know, you've got to be careful whet— know, you've got to be careful whet wou— know, you've got to be careful whet wou wteh— know, you've got to be careful what you wish for— know, you've got to be careful what you wish for because we eeutt— what you wish for because we eoutt te— what you wish for because we could be getting— what you wish for because we could be getting dangerous could be getting some dangerous peopte— could be getting some dangerous peopte-our— could be getting some dangerous people our country. if people into our country. if thet-e— that's the case. yeah. and indeed, forget indeed, let's not forget that al—qaeda bin laden set up his base in sudan before going to afghanistan in in, you know, i wouldn't wish to condemn the country as a whole. of course not. but, you know, it is a hotbed in some elements of

islamism and including militant islamism and including militant islamism and including militant islamism and a number of terrorists over the years have originated from sudan . so, no, i originated from sudan. so, no, i mean, you know, we should do whatever we can. we should provide what aid we are able to provide. we should bring back those people who have connections to this country , or connections to this country, or particularly british passport holders have a right to come here. but should not, i don't here. but we should not, i don't think, masse taking in think, start en masse taking in large numbers of people who potentially could include some some extremists in their numbers. well, colonel richard temp— numbers. well, colonel richard temp .— numbers. well, colonel richard temp . thert— numbers. well, colonel richard temp . thert wou— numbers. well, colonel richard kemp , thank you for- well, colonel richard kemp , thank you for your input kemp, thank you for your input totew.— kemp, thank you for your input totew. art— kemp, thank you for your input totew. art eer— kemp, thank you for your input today. and can i— kemp, thank you for your input today. and can i thank you again for today. and can i thank you again tor hetptra— today. and can i thank you again tor hetprralto— today. and can i thank you again for helping to make sure that for helping us to make sure that ttememtre— for helping us to make sure that remembrance sunday went ahead turtra— remembrance sunday went ahead during lockdown._ remembrance sunday went ahead during lockdown. remember, you got during lockdown. remember, you aot truotuet— during lockdown. remember, you got involved-that— during lockdown. remember, you got involved that campaign during lockdown. remember, you got itheved that campaign during lockdown. remember, you got ithe expresstat campaign during lockdown. remember, you got ithe express and ampaign during lockdown. remember, you got ithe express and inpaign during lockdown. remember, you got ithe express and i thinkn during lockdown. remember, you got ithe express and i think we with the express and i think we toreet— with the express and i think we toreet the— with the express and i think we forced the government to use it. art—eaetr- forced the government to use it. art—eaetr torl and thank you once again for thet—.- and thank you once again for thet—. art- and thank you once again for. that_. and thanks that sterling work. and thanks for that sterling work. and thanks tor-wou— that sterling work. and thanks tor-wou to. — that sterling work. and thanks for-you do. great.- that sterling work. and thanks for you do. great. you for all you do. great. see you eaetr— for all you do. great. see you eaetm—otew- for all you do. great. see you| again._okay..lot for all you do. great. see you. again. _okay..lot of again. thank you. okay. a lot of you— again. thank you. okay. a lot of wou heue— again. thank you. okay. a lot of wou heue teer— again. thank you. okay. a lot of you have been in— again. thank you. okay. a lot of you have been in touch some you have been in touch over some of the topics we've been eouertra— of the topics we've been. eouertra—ter of the topics we've been- eouertra—ter. of the topics we've been- covering_far . on covering on the show so far. on reperettore— covering on the show so far. on reperettore-eewe- covering on the show so far. on reparations. says this reparations. david says this eoretert— reparations. david says this constant moaning about slavery is constant moaning about slavery re etowtw— constant moaning about slavery re etowtw tut— constant moaning about slavery is slowly but surely turning ro—et— is slowly but surely turning non—racist people off. those

certtteer— non—racist people off. those caribbean british who live in the ut— caribbean british who live in the ut .— caribbean british who live in the ut . tm— caribbean british who live in the uk. i'mfed_ caribbean british who live in the uk . i'm fed up to the caribbean british who live in the uk. i'm fed up to the teeth of the uk. i'm fed up to the teeth or peopte— the uk. i'm fed up to the teeth of people dragging up historical mteteete— of people dragging up historical mteteete ee— of people dragging up historical misdeeds as history is history. no reparations— misdeeds as history is history. no reparations are due. well, tert.— no reparations are due. well, dana, etrora— no reparations are due. well, david, strong words there , and david, strong words there, and it's david, strong words there, and he e— david, strong words there, and he e topte— david, strong words there, and it's a topic we'll— david, strong words there, and it's a topic we'll be covering teter— it's a topic we'll be covering teter tr— it's a topic we'll be covering teter hr the— it's a topic we'll be covering later in the show— it's a topic we'll be covering later in the show after 2:00, tetore— later in the show after 2:00, before three. _ later in the show after 2:00, before three. and— later in the show after 2:00, before three. and that's going to ao— before three. and that's going to ao reettw— before three. and that's going to go really, really interestingly. next point, ttehert— interestingly. next point, richard sharp's resignation. arerttr— richard sharp's resignation. arerttr eewe— richard sharp's resignation. martin says, not me. another arerttr— martin says, not me. another arerttr the— martin says, not me. another martin the proof— martin says, not me. another martin the proof of the pudding is martin the proof of the pudding re tr— martin the proof of the pudding re hr the— martin the proof of the pudding is in the eating.— martin the proof of the pudding is in the eating. the bbc is etrtt— is in the eating. the bbc is etttt verv— is in the eating. the bbc is still very biased— is in the eating. the bbc is still very biased in favour of tetour— still very biased in favour of tetour tt— still very biased in favour of tetour rt tt— still very biased in favour of labour if it leans— still very biased in favour of labour if it leans any further to the— labour if it leans any further to the tert.— labour if it leans any further to the left, it— labour if it leans any further to the left, it will fall over. eoet — to the left, it will fall over. eoet potrt. — to the left, it will fall over. good point. martin although it's fair good point. martin although it's tetr to— good point. martin although it's tetr to eew— good point. martin although it's fair to say everybody seems to eomptetr— fair to say everybody seems to complain about— fair to say everybody seems to complain about the bbc. corbynistas_ complain about the bbc. corbynistas said it was too far hart— corbynistas said it was too far rtaht ert— corbynistas said it was too far right and brexiteers say you'd ttrt— right and brexiteers say you'd sooner find oxygen on the moon ther— sooner find oxygen on the moon ther ttrt— sooner find oxygen on the moon ther ttrt e— sooner find oxygen on the moon than find a leave— sooner find oxygen on the moon than find a leave voter at the the— than find a leave voter at the etc or— than find a leave voter at the etc or the— than find a leave voter at the bbc on the subject of nurses etrtttra— bbc on the subject of nurses striking, lesley— bbc on the subject of nurses striking, lesley says , why are striking, lesley says, why are our heroes still— striking, lesley says, why are our heroes still being called heroee— our heroes still being called heroes when— our heroes still being called heroes when they are putting petterte— heroes when they are putting petterte et— heroes when they are putting patients at risk— heroes when they are putting patients at risk by striking eheme— patients at risk by striking eheme or— patients at risk by striking shame on them. it's a great potrt— shame on them. it's a great potrt ert— shame on them. it's a great potrt ert r— shame on them. it's a great point and i really do think that if point and i really do think that rt we— point and i really do think that rt we etert— point and i really do think that

rt we etert to— point and i really do think that if we start to see— point and i really do think that if we start to see people who diet— if we start to see people who die, especially— if we start to see people who die, especially children in treet— die, especially children in great ormond— die, especially children in great ormond street, then public optrtor— great ormond street, then public optrtor wttt— great ormond street, then public opinion will rapidly shift eaetret— opinion will rapidly shift against these— opinion will rapidly shift against these strikes. well, teep— against these strikes. well, teep wour— against these strikes. well, keep your views coming in and pteeee— keep your views coming in and pteeee to— keep your views coming in and please do subscribe to our toutute— please do subscribe to our youtube channel. we are, of course, at gb— youtube channel. we are, of course, at gb news. so this weet— course, at gb news. so this weet. thert— course, at gb news. so this week, rishi sunak hosted around 100 week, rishi sunak hosted around roe utteo— week, rishi sunak hosted around roe utteo aeme— week, rishi sunak hosted around 100 video game companies at towrtra— 100 video game companies at downing street— 100 video game companies at downing street for a celebration of downing street for a celebration ot the— downing street for a celebration of the success— downing street for a celebration of the success of— downing street for a celebration of the success of the uk's video aeme— of the success of the uk's video aeme eeoter— of the success of the uk's video aeme eeetor .— of the success of the uk's video game sector. and— of the success of the uk's video game sector. and in recent morthe— game sector. and in recent morthe the— game sector. and in recent months the chancellor , jeremy months the chancellor, jeremy hurt.— months the chancellor, jeremy hunt, outlined— months the chancellor, jeremy hunt, outlined plans for the uk to teoe— hunt, outlined plans for the uk to become the— hunt, outlined plans for the uk to become the next silicon vettew. — to become the next silicon vettew. so— to become the next silicon vettew. so wou— to become the next silicon valley. so you might ask the aueettor— valley. so you might ask the aueetror whw— valley. so you might ask the question why on— valley. so you might ask the question why on earth has the tee— question why on earth has the res mttttor— question why on earth has the £65 million gaming deal been ttoetete— £65 million gaming deal been blocked? billy— £65 million gaming deal been blocked? billy i— £65 million gaming deal been blocked? billy i beg your pardon ? blocked? billy i beg your pardon e tetra— blocked? billy i beg your pardon ? being blocked— blocked? billy i beg your pardon ? being blocked by the uk aouerrmert— ? being blocked by the uk government watchdog microsoft ettemptet— government watchdog microsoft ettemptet to — government watchdog microsoft attempted to acquire activision tttzeert — attempted to acquire activision tttzeert .— attempted to acquire activision tttzeert . the— attempted to acquire activision blizzard , the conglomerate that blizzard, the conglomerate that protueet— blizzard, the conglomerate that protueet ephe— blizzard, the conglomerate that produced epic games such as call of produced epic games such as call ot tutw. — produced epic games such as call or tutw. certw— produced epic games such as call of duty. candy crush and world of duty. candy crush and world ot wererett— of duty. candy crush and world ot wererett .— of duty. candy crush and world of warcraft . but— of duty. candy crush and world of warcraft . but the sale was of warcraft. but the sale was thwertet— of warcraft. but the sale was thwertet by— of warcraft. but the sale was thwarted by the _ of warcraft. but the sale was thwarted by the uk's competition wetehtoa— thwarted by the uk's competition wetehtoa et— thwarted by the uk's competition watchdog at the— thwarted by the uk's competition watchdog at the last minute. so why— watchdog at the last minute. so whw hee— watchdog at the last minute. so whw hee thre— watchdog at the last minute. so why has this deal— watchdog at the last minute. so why has this deal been shot towrt— why has this deal been shot down? joining— why has this deal been shot down? joining me now is the tech

tourrettet— down? joining me now is the tech tourrettet .— down? joining me now is the tech journalist, will— down? joining me now is the tech journalist, will guyot. will we ttrettw— journalist, will guyot. will we finally talking— journalist, will guyot. will we finally talking about something that finally talking about something thet her-t— finally talking about something that isn't the— finally talking about something that isn't the government's emeraerew— that isn't the government's emergency alarm? let's look emergency alarm? so let's look at emergency alarm? so let's look et thte. — emergency alarm? so let's look et the. th— emergency alarm? so let's look at this. on the— emergency alarm? so let's look at this. on the one— emergency alarm? so let's look at this. on the one hand, we've got— at this. on the one hand, we've aot the— at this. on the one hand, we've got the government saying we wert— got the government saying we wert to— got the government saying we wert to te— got the government saying we wert to te e— got the government saying we want to be a unicorn kingdom no want to be a unicorn kingdom. no aemtra— want to be a unicorn kingdom. no. aemtra—the gaming companies from around the wortt— gaming companies from around the wort-here— gaming companies from around the world-here now.— gaming companies from around the world-here now. the- gaming companies from around the world here now. the last world come here now. the last mtrute— world come here now. the last. mtrute—ttaaeet minute they blocked the biggest teet— minute they blocked the biggest teet-whw— minute they blocked the biggest teet-whw — minute they blocked the biggest deal-why yeah,- minute they blocked the biggesti deal-why yeah, well, deal in history. why yeah, well, .uk deal in history. why yeah, well, rt tt— deal in history. why yeah, well, rt ut te— deal in history. why yeah, well, .uk uk is closed for business. the uk economy clearly doesn't to— the uk economy clearly doesn't to wert— the uk economy clearly doesn't seem to want this— the uk economy clearly doesn't seem to want this and it's unbelievable— seem to want this and it's unbelievable given that euerwtotw— unbelievable given that euerwtotw tr— unbelievable given that everybody in the games industry . wtth— everybody in the games industry . wtth the— everybody in the games industry , with the exception of sony , , with the exception of sony, etmtttettw— , with the exception of sony, admittedly seemed to think this is admittedly seemed to think this re aerutretw— admittedly seemed to think this re aerutretw e— admittedly seemed to think this is genuinely a good idea . it's is genuinely a good idea. it's hot— is genuinely a good idea. it's rot aorra— is genuinely a good idea. it's rot aorra to— is genuinely a good idea. it's not going to be— is genuinely a good idea. it's not going to be damaging or hermtut— not going to be damaging or hermtut tor— not going to be damaging or harmful for business. a really aoot— harmful for business. a really aoot exempte— harmful for business. a really aoot exempte .— harmful for business. a really good example . martin microsoft good example. martin microsoft pureheeet— good example. martin microsoft pureheeet the— good example. martin microsoft purchased the game minecraft and the eomperw— purchased the game minecraft and the company behind minecraft etout— the company behind minecraft etout true— the company behind minecraft about five years— the company behind minecraft about five years ago. they've etrtt— about five years ago. they've etttt mete— about five years ago. they've still made it— about five years ago. they've still made it available on every other— still made it available on every other ewetem— still made it available on every other system. they haven't they heuer-t— other system. they haven't they heuer-t eort— other system. they haven't they haven't sort of— other system. they haven't they haven't sort of blocked it off ert— haven't sort of blocked it off ert eett.— haven't sort of blocked it off ert eett. wou— haven't sort of blocked it off and said, you have to get a arteroeott— and said, you have to get a microsoft xbox_ and said, you have to get a microsoft xbox to play it . you microsoft xbox to play it. you eer-tt— microsoft xbox to play it. you eer-rt or— microsoft xbox to play it. you can it on absolutely. any can play it on absolutely. any ewetem — can play it on absolutely. any ewetem .— can play it on absolutely. any system .-that's- can play it on absolutely. any system . that's microsoft's can play it on absolutely. any syste now that's microsoft's can play it on absolutely. any syste now they �*ial's microsoft's can play it on absolutely. any syste now they do s microsoft's can play it on absolutely. any syste now they do have rosoft's can play it on absolutely. any syste now they do have asoft's can play it on absolutely. any syste now they do have a games aim. now they do have a games oeoet— aim. now they do have a games oeoet ot— aim. now they do have a games console of their— aim. now they do have a games console of their own. they do heue—thet- console of their own. they do have _their own, . console of their own. they do. have _their own, but have services of their own, but it have services of their own, but tt-toeer-t— have services of their own, but it-doesn't-businessl it just doesn't make business

eereeel— it just doesn't make business eereeel aemee— it just doesn't make business sense a games company to cut sense for a games company to cut off sense for a games company to cut ott e— sense for a games company to cut ott e huae— sense for a games company to cut off a huge audience.— sense for a games company to cut off a huge audience. if you're teettra— off a huge audience. if you're looking something like the looking at something like the other— looking at something like the other-wouue- looking at something like the other-you've got. other consoles, you've got a huae— other consoles, you've got a huge audience— other consoles, you've got a huge audience for nintendo for thet— huge audience for nintendo for thetr ewtteh— huge audience for nintendo for their switch console. you've got a their switch console. you've got ee-utee— their switch console. you've got a-audience for- their switch console. you've got a-audience for the- a massive audience for the rtewstettor.— a massive audience for the playstation. console and playstation. sony's console and it playstation. sony's console and t woutt— playstation. sony's console and t woutt te— playstation. sony's console and it would be in— playstation. sony's console and it would be in microsoft's to tuetreee— it would be in microsoft's to business and— it would be in microsoft's to business and in— it would be in microsoft's to business and in their business trtereete— business and in their business trtereete to— business and in their business interests to keep— business and in their business interests to keep letting activision _ interests to keep letting activision develop games for thoee— activision develop games for those platforms. _ activision develop games for those platforms. so it's a etrerae— those platforms. so it's a strange decision, especially the same week where— strange decision, especially the same week where rishi sunak and the aouerrmert— same week where rishi sunak and the government are— same week where rishi sunak and the government are standing up there— the government are standing up there-petttra— the government are standing up there patting themselves the government are standing up theiback patting themselves the government are standing up theiback and ting themselves the government are standing up theiback and sayingamselves the government are standing up theiback and saying how lves the government are standing up theiback and saying how much the back and saying how much thew-ue— the back and saying how much thew-ue tore— the back and saying how much they've done for— the back and saying how much they've done for the games trtuetrw— they've done for the games trtuetrw .— they've done for the games industry . they're only industry. they're the only this is industry. they're the only this re the— industry. they're the only this re the ortw— industry. they're the only this is the only kind— industry. they're the only this is the only kind of authority in the wortt— is the only kind of authority in the world that's— is the only kind of authority in the world that's blocked this transaction _ the world that's blocked this transaction so— the world that's blocked this transaction so far and it will eeupper— transaction so far and it will eeupper tt— transaction so far and it will scupper it globally and reckon as scupper it globally and reckon ee e reeutt.— scupper it globally and reckon as a result, microsoft will protettw— as a result, microsoft will probably pull— as a result, microsoft will probably pull out of the uk . probably pull out of the uk. thet-e— probably pull out of the uk. thet-e e— probably pull out of the uk. that's a terrible,— probably pull out of the uk. that's a terrible, terrible- that's a terrible, terrible thing to have to admit. the global gaming industry now is worth $300 billion per year. it's worth more than i think, than hollywood music and publishing combined. it's absolutely gargantuan and this is sending out a message, isn't it, that britain is shut for business? it's a terrible thing

to lay out . yeah. no, i don't to lay out. yeah. no, i don't aerutretw— yeah. no, i don't genuinely understand why they've tore — genuinely understand why they've tore tt— genuinely understand why they've tore rt ert— genuinely understand why they've done it and they've— genuinely understand why they've done it and they've actually not tore— done it and they've actually not tore the— done it and they've actually not done this because— done it and they've actually not done this because they're saying it done this because they're saying rt etope— done this because they're saying rt etope aee— done this because they're saying it stops games. the activision eemee— it stops games. the activision games appearing— it stops games. the activision games appearing on other peopte-e— games appearing on other people's consoles. they've eetuettw— people's consoles. they've actually gone— people's consoles. they've actually gone on a really kind of actually gone on a really kind ot thw— actually gone on a really kind or trrw merarr— actually gone on a really kind of tiny margin of— actually gone on a really kind of tiny margin of this and said thet— of tiny margin of this and said that microsoft— of tiny margin of this and said that microsoft are— of tiny margin of this and said that microsoft are getting into whet-e— that microsoft are getting into what's called _ that microsoft are getting into what's called cloud gaming what's called the cloud gaming mertet— what's called the cloud gaming mertet. wow.— what's called the cloud gaming market. now, the— what's called the cloud gaming market. now, the cloud gaming mertet— market. now, the cloud gamingj mertet—reet market is where you don't need a aemee—te-toi games console. you'll be able to play— games console. you'll be able to ptew-mottte- games console. you'll be able to play-mobile phone.- play it on your mobile phone. tou— play it on your mobile phone. wou-ptew— play it on your mobile phone. wou-ptew tt— play it on your mobile phone. wou-ptew t or- play it on your mobile phone. you-play it on -tv,| you might play it on your tv, you— you might play it on your tv, wou-tt— you might play it on your tv, wou-rt tr— you might play it on your tv, you-it in various- you might play it on your tv, you it in various other you play it in various other pteeee— you play it in various other pteeee ert— you play it in various other places, and they're saying teeuee— places, and they're saying teeeuee-e- places, and they're saying because a result of this because of as a result of this ert— because of as a result of this ert tuwrra— because of as a result of this and buying that— because of as a result of this and buying that company, it mtaht— and buying that company, it mraht meer— and buying that company, it might mean that microsoft gets urter— might mean that microsoft gets unfair advantage— might mean that microsoft gets unfair advantage a sector unfair advantage in a sector thet-e— unfair advantage in a sector that's currently— unfair advantage in a sector that's currently less than 5% of the aemee— that's currently less than 5% of the games industry . so it makes the games industry. so it makes no the games industry. so it makes ro-et— the games industry. so it makes ro-et ett— the games industry. so it makes no-at all. does- the games industry. so it makes no at all. does sound like no sense at all. does sound like arteroeott— no sense at all. does sound like arteroeott ee— no sense at all. does sound like microsoft are going— no sense at all. does sound like microsoft are going to appeal eaetret— microsoft are going to appeal eaetret thre— microsoft are going to appeal eaetretthte. — microsoft are going to appeal against this. 'hr: against this. and i just think it sends all the wrong messages because the uk might not have the biggest amount of investment in video games, but we make some of the biggest games in this country, of genuinely country, some of the genuinely biggest blockbuster games and titles are world titles which are world bestsellers, are originated from creative people here in the uk .

creative people here in the uk. so it would be such a shame if the— so it would be such a shame if the mertet— so it would be such a shame if the market feels— so it would be such a shame if the market feels that the uk can no the market feels that the uk can re teraer— the market feels that the uk can re toraer te— the market feels that the uk can no longer be the— the market feels that the uk can no longer be the place where theee— no longer be the place where these companies— no longer be the place where these companies can be fostered ert— these companies can be fostered ert teuetop— these companies can be fostered and develop, which— these companies can be fostered and develop, which appears even thouah— and develop, which appears even thouah-suret— and develop, which appears even though-sunak is— and develop, which appears even though sunak is violently though rishi sunak is violently terwtra— though rishi sunak is violently terwtra tt— though rishi sunak is violently terwtra rt .— though rishi sunak is violently denying it . what's happened denying it. what's happened heret— denying it. what's happened here? tou— denying it. what's happened here? you know— denying it. what's happened here? you know will i absolutely earee— here? you know will i absolutely earee . — here? you know will i absolutely earee . teu— here? you know will i absolutely agree . you know,— here? you know will i absolutely agree . you know, we- here? you know will i absolutely agree . /rtrc. r:rtrh c here? you know will i absolutely agree . /rtrc. : h c agree. you know, we don't have much manufacturing or industry left. you know, the future is digital. the future is gaming. it seems completely dunderhead . it seems completely dunderhead. it seems completely dunderhead. it to me this would happen. do you think that apple has any chance of success? yeah , well, i chance of success? yeah, well, i tor-t— chance of success? yeah, well, i tor-t trow— chance of success? yeah, well, i don't know whether— chance of success? yeah, well, i don't know whether or- tt tt7 yeah, well, i don't know whether or not i tor-t— don't know whether or not i tor-t trow— don't know whether or not i don't know whether or not i don't know whether or not it's eomethtra — don't know whether or not it's something that— don't know whether or not it's something that rishi sunak will wert— something that rishi sunak will wert to— something that rishi sunak will wert to ow— something that rishi sunak will want to row back— something that rishi sunak will want to row back but if want to row back on, but if ttrt— want to row back on, but if we're kind-if— want to row back on, but if we're kind .if the - want to row back on, but if we're kind if the government we're kind of if the government are we're kind of if the government ere-trutttra— we're kind of if the government are-inviting tech- are openly inviting tech eomperee— are openly inviting tech companies to- are openly inviting tech companies to the uk and saying, toot.— companies to the uk and saying, toot. wee— companies to the uk and saying, toot. the— companies to the uk and saying, look, we're the place to come ert— look, we're the place to come ert heue— look, we're the place to come and havelbusiness- look, we're the place to come and have business after and have a business after trextt— and have a business afteri brexit,_cetera. brexit, et cetera. et cetera. thre— brexit, et cetera. et cetera. thte tuet— brexit, et cetera. et cetera. this just sends— brexit, et cetera. et cetera. this just sends out completely the wrora— this just sends out completely the wrong message . microsoft the wrong message. microsoft heue— the wrong message. microsoft heue-tr— the wrong message. microsoft heue-trutt- the wrong message. microsoft have-in-uk fori the wrong message. microsoft. have-in-uk for 40 have been here in the uk for 40 weee— have been here in the uk for 40 we thew-ue— have been here in the uk for 40 we thew-ue aot— have been here in the uk for 40 years. they've got a— have been here in the uk for 40 years. they've got a massive teee— years. they've got a massive base-london _ years. they've got a massive base london they've got base in london and they've got a meeetue-tr— base in london and they've got a massive in redding. they're massive base in redding. they're etreetw— massive base in redding. they're etreetw-e— massive base in redding. they're already-a result- massive base in redding. they're already-a result of- already saying, as a result of the— already saying, as a result of thte thre— already saying, as a result of this, this hearing— already saying, as a result of this, this hearing that they may tete— this, this hearing that they may tete-tett— this, this hearing that they may take - ball and _ this, this hearing that they may take ball and away and take the ball and run away and teeue— take the ball and run away and teeue-tort— take the ball and run away and

leave. don't blame them . leave. and i don't blame them. ateetutetw— leave. and i don't blame them. absolutely terrible— leave. and i don't blame them. absolutely terrible news. - leave. and i don't blame them. absolutely terrible news. well, i that appeal does i hope that that appeal does have guy, thank have a chance. will guy, thank you whoever made you very much. and whoever made that be that choice, maybe it should be game them. horrible, game over for them. horrible, terrible you're terrible pun. okay you're watching and listening to gb news saturday with martin news saturday with me, martin daubney. coming up on daubney. lots more coming up on the show this afternoon , the show this afternoon, including hit including the government's hit their policing recruitment target with 20,000 new target this week with 20,000 new officers since 2019. but is it all it's cracked up to be? we'll find out . but first, let's look find out. but first, let's look at the weather with marco . at the weather with marco. hello, i'm marco petagna and welcome to your latest weather update from the met office for the rest this weekend, we'll the rest of this weekend, we'll hold mixed bag of hold on to a mixed bag of weather uk . there'll weather across the uk. there'll be sunshine, heavy be some sunshine, some heavy showers feeling pleasantly showers, but feeling pleasantly warm through warm when the sun comes through . for mixed . the reason for the mixed conditions is down fact conditions is down to the fact we've pressure towards we've got high pressure towards the east, low pressure out towards west. that's giving the east, low pressure out towards winds, st. that's giving the east, low pressure out towards winds,st.slack s giving the east, low pressure out towards winds,st.slack pressure us light winds, a slack pressure gradient the uk, but gradient across the uk, but equally those equally allowing those showers to times . heavy to develop at times. heavy showers to end the day across the north—west the the west. and north—west of the uk. continuing to see uk. and we're continuing to see showers northern uk. and we're continuing to see shovwestern northern uk. and we're continuing to see shovwestern areas northern uk. and we're continuing to see shovwestern areas as northern uk. and we're continuing to see shovwestern areas as we thern uk. and we're continuing to see shovwestern areas as we head and western areas as we head through the of evening through the rest of the evening into with

into the overnight period with a clearer skies down the clearer skies down towards the south—east and up towards the north—east some low north—east of the uk. some low cloud or mist patches. but as i say, the the clearer say, the best of the clearer weather and weather here generally and it's here the lowest here we'll see the lowest temperatures six temperatures do down to six degrees in south—east degrees in the south—east possibly freezing degrees in the south—east possibithe freezing degrees in the south—east possibithe north—east ing degrees in the south—east possibithe north—east of| across the north—east of scotland, could scotland, where we could see a touch frost milder, touch of frost milder, though, under out towards under the cloud out towards the west it's we'll see west. and it's here we'll see showers word on showers from the word go on sunday, quite heavy , sunday, some still quite heavy, even thundery showers contend even thundery showers to contend with. showers tending even thundery showers to contend wi'break showers tending even thundery showers to contend wi'break out showers tending even thundery showers to contend wi'break out moreiowers tending even thundery showers to contend wi'break out more widelytending even thundery showers to contend wi'break out more widely as ding even thundery showers to contend wi'break out more widely as we; to break out more widely as we go the day sunday. go through the day on sunday. still south—east england still the south—east of england holding the holding on to the best of the sunshine staying generally sunshine and staying generally dry through into dry here. i think through into the afternoon. i say, the afternoon. but as i say, some heavy downpours some quite heavy downpours developing, particularly across northern ireland as we go into sunday afternoon in the sunshine towards the south, we'll see highs 18. locally, 19 highs of 17 to 18. locally, 19 degrees, still chilly degrees, but still chilly towards north—east of towards the north—east of scotland and the evening , scotland and into the evening, the showers migrate the showers tend to migrate their eastwards across the their way eastwards across the uk. i think the uk. so i think even the south—east will start to see some developing as we go some showers developing as we go through sunday whereas through sunday night, whereas out showers out towards the west the showers will we'll see will start to ease. we'll see some clearer spells. but with will start to ease. we'll see sonfactearer spells. but with will start to ease. we'll see sonfactearerthere's but with will start to ease. we'll see sonfactearerthere's still with the fact that there's still a fair amount of cloud no fair amount of cloud around no issues temperatures on

issues with temperatures on sunday night generally holding up range 7 to 10 degrees up in the range 7 to 10 degrees on monday , bank holiday, monday, on monday, bank holiday, monday, of course, the for of course, the focus for the showers be towards east showers will be towards the east and england . and south—east of england. again, heavy showers again, 1 or 2 heavy showers around here, some patchy rain towards the north scotland, towards the north of scotland, but elsewhere, with higher pressure should pressure dominating, we should see fine settled see a lot of fine and settled weather quite nicely into the climbing quite nicely into the high and we hold on to high teens and we hold on to plenty fine weather across plenty of fine weather across the uk on tuesday the bulk of the uk on tuesday and further warm and wednesday with further warm sunshine .

hello and welcome to gb news saturday. i'm martin daubney for and the next hour i'll be keeping you company on your tv onune keeping you company on your tv online and your digital radio. we've got an action packed hour coming up, including finally we get 20,000 extra cops. but i'll

be asking who even wants to do the job? these days? plus, should britain even be entertaining the idea of trillions of pounds in slavery reparation payments when we're already up to our necks in debt? but first, it's time for the news headlines with the wonderful tatiana . martin thank wonderful tatiana. martin thank you very much and good- you very much and good afternoon.— you very much and good afternoon. this is the latest trom— afternoon. this is the latest tom the— afternoon. this is the latest from the newsroom. the deadline for from the newsroom. the deadline tor trttteh— from the newsroom. the deadline for british nationals to reach the— for british nationals to reach the evacuation— for british nationals to reach the evacuation .— for british nationals to reach the evacuation . an airfield in the evacuation. an airfield in euter— the evacuation. an airfield in suter-row— the evacuation. an airfield in sudan now passed. it comes sudan has now passed. it comes as sudan has now passed. it comes ee thet— sudan has now passed. it comes as final evacuation— sudan has now passed. it comes as final evacuation flights out of as final evacuation flights out ot euter— as final evacuation flights out of sudan will— as final evacuation flights out of sudan will take place later totew— of sudan will take place later totew .— of sudan will take place later totew . teputw— of sudan will take place later today . deputy prime minister today. deputy prime minister etuer— today. deputy prime minister oliver dowden_ today. deputy prime minister oliver dowden will chair a cobra meettra— oliver dowden will chair a cobra meettra teter— oliver dowden will chair a cobra meeting later this— oliver dowden will chair a cobra meeting later this afternoon to theme— meeting later this afternoon to tteeuee the— meeting later this afternoon to discuss the security situation in discuss the security situation tr thertoum— discuss the security situation in khartoum. ahead of the final tttaht— in khartoum. ahead of the final tttaht tettra— in khartoum. ahead of the final flight taking off— in khartoum. ahead of the final flight taking off at 6 pm. uk ttme. — flight taking off at 6 pm. uk ttme. so— flight taking off at 6 pm. uk ttme. so ter— flight taking off at 6 pm. uk time. so far, british forces heue— time. so far, british forces have rescued— time. so far, british forces have rescued more than 1500 peopte.— have rescued more than 1500 peopte. tut— have rescued more than 1500 people, but hundreds have been tttet— people, but hundreds have been ttttet ert— people, but hundreds have been killed and tens— people, but hundreds have been killed and tens of— people, but hundreds have been killed and tens of thousands heue— killed and tens of thousands heue rtet— killed and tens of thousands have fled for— killed and tens of thousands have fled for their lives in a power— have fled for their lives in a power etruaate— have fled for their lives in a power struggle between the army

and power struggle between the army ert e— power struggle between the army ert e tuet— power struggle between the army and a rival paramilitary group . and a rival paramilitary group. treet— and a rival paramilitary group. great ormond— and a rival paramilitary group. great ormond street hospital has teer— great ormond street hospital has teer arertet— great ormond street hospital has been granted exemptions to keep worttra— been granted exemptions to keep nurses working during upcoming etrtte— nurses working during upcoming etrtte eetor— nurses working during upcoming strike action by— nurses working during upcoming strike action by the children's hoepttet— strike action by the children's hospital expressed concerns etout— hospital expressed concerns about staffing— hospital expressed concerns about staffing as royal college of about staffing as royal college ot wuretra— about staffing as royal college of nursing staff— about staffing as royal college of nursing staff prepare to walk outr— of nursing staff prepare to walk out. ttcw — of nursing staff prepare to walk out, rcn members will go on etrtte— out, rcn members will go on etrtte trom — out, rcn members will go on strike from 8:00— out, rcn members will go on strike from 8:00 tomorrow euertra— strike from 8:00 tomorrow evening until— strike from 8:00 tomorrow evening until late on monday. wett— evening until late on monday. wet the— evening until late on monday. wett thte ee— evening until late on monday. well, this as health workers tetorarra— well, this as health workers tetoratra to— well, this as health workers belonging to the gmb union eeeeptet— belonging to the gmb union eeeeptet e— belonging to the gmb union accepted a 5%_ belonging to the gmb union accepted a 5% pay offer from the aouerrmert— accepted a 5% pay offer from the government yesterday. union otttetete— government yesterday. union officials will— government yesterday. union officials will now vote to eeeept— officials will now vote to eeeept thet— officials will now vote to accept that offer at a meeting of accept that offer at a meeting ot the — accept that offer at a meeting ot the wus— accept that offer at a meeting of the nhs staff— accept that offer at a meeting of the nhs staff council next weet. — of the nhs staff council next weet. wett— of the nhs staff council next week. well, the— of the nhs staff council next week. well, the political editor for week. well, the political editor tor the— week. well, the political editor for the huffington post told gb rewe— for the huffington post told gb wewe tt— for the huffington post told gb news it doesn't— for the huffington post told gb news it doesn't come soon enough . rte— news it doesn't come soon enough . rt-e expectet— news it doesn't come soon enough . it's expected that— news it doesn't come soon enough . it's expected that the- news it doesn't come soon enough . it's expected that the that- . it's expected that the that council will actually vote to accept the pay deal and which case all the members , their case all the members, their union members and the nhs employees will get the pay rise that the government is offering and then that then begs the question will the strike then continue to. i'm not sure it will. so it could actually we

could be looking at the end of the of the dispute coming quite soon, which although it won't come soon enough to stop this this weekend strike action labouris this weekend strike action labour is promising to invest in more teachers who are specialists in their subject if they win the next general election. it they win the next general election . it comes as the labour election. it comes as the labour eretwete— election. it comes as the labour eretwete ot— t rtrh it comes as the labour analysis of government figures euaaeet— analysis of government figures euaaeet thet— analysis of government figures suggest that there are gaps in expert— suggest that there are gaps in expert teeehrra— suggest that there are gaps in expert teaching provisions in etete— expert teaching provisions in state schools— expert teaching provisions in state schools across england. shetow— state schools across england. shadow education secretary trttaet— shadow education secretary bridget phillipson says schools are scrambling— bridget phillipson says schools are scrambling to— bridget phillipson says schools are scrambling to fill roles , are scrambling to fill roles, meertra— are scrambling to fill roles, meaning there— are scrambling to fill roles, meaning there aren't high eterterte— meaning there aren't high standards for— meaning there aren't high standards for all children. she tott— standards for all children. she tott et— standards for all children. she told gb news— standards for all children. she told gb news this morning that urter— told gb news this morning that urter tetour.— told gb news this morning that under labour, the— told gb news this morning that under labour, the challenges to teeeher— under labour, the challenges to teacher recruitment and reterttor— teacher recruitment and retention will- teacher recruitment and retention will change over the course of the— retention will change over the course of the last— retention will change over the course of the last decade , the course of the last decade, the eouerrmert— course of the last decade, the government has— course of the last decade, the government has presided over a reeruttmert— government has presided over a recruitment failure— government has presided over a recruitment failure and a real ehetterae— recruitment failure and a real challenge across— recruitment failure and a real challenge across our schools. so challenge across our schools. so whet— challenge across our schools. so what schools— challenge across our schools. so what schools are- challenge across our schools. so what schools are having to do at the moment when they're scrambling to find teachers to cover lessons is to call upon non—specialist to deliver those lessons. of the massive lessons. because of the massive challenges that we're seeing around teacher recruitment and

retention . and under labour, retention. and under labour, that we'll that will change. we'll make sure that children sure that all children have access specialist provision access to specialist provision and that deliver more and that we deliver more teachers ending those teachers by ending those tax breaks schools . breaks on private schools. scotland's first minister humza toueet— scotland's first minister humza toueet .— scotland's first minister humza toueet . hee— scotland's first minister humza yousaf , has said— scotland's first minister humza yousaf , has said that support yousaf, has said that support for yousaf, has said that support tor the— yousaf, has said that support tor the sur— yousaf, has said that support for the snp is— yousaf, has said that support for the snp is going from etrerath— for the snp is going from etrerath to— for the snp is going from strength to strength . that's strength to strength. that's teeptte— strength to strength. that's teeprte the— strength to strength. that's despite the turmoil the party hee— despite the turmoil the party hee teeet— despite the turmoil the party has faced in— despite the turmoil the party has faced in recent weeks . mr has faced in recent weeks. mr tueut— has faced in recent weeks. mr tueut mete— has faced in recent weeks. mr yusuf made those— has faced in recent weeks. mr yusuf made those comments as he wette— yusuf made those comments as he utette turtee— yusuf made those comments as he visits dundee today,— yusuf made those comments as he visits dundee today, marking a morth— visits dundee today, marking a morth etree— visits dundee today, marking a month since becoming snp leader. he month since becoming snp leader. re etee— month since becoming snp leader. re etee uowet— month since becoming snp leader. he also vowed never— month since becoming snp leader. he also vowed never to be eompteeert— he also vowed never to be complacent when asked about the party's— complacent when asked about the pertw-e eupport— complacent when asked about the party'5 support if— complacent when asked about the party's support if there's a aereret— party's support if there's a general election next year. mr tueut— general election next year. mr tueut hee— general election next year. mr yusuf has had— general election next year. mr yusuf has had a— general election next year. mr yusuf has had a tumultuous , yusuf has had a tumultuous, tumuttuoue— yusuf has had a tumultuous, tumultuous start to his time in eherae— tumultuous start to his time in eherae .— tumultuous start to his time in eherae . wtth— tumultuous start to his time in charge , with the— tumultuous start to his time in charge , with the arrest of charge, with the arrest of tormer— charge, with the arrest of former chief— charge, with the arrest of former chief executive peter arurrett— former chief executive peter arurrett ert — former chief executive peter murrell and former snp treasurer tettr— murrell and former snp treasurer cottr teettte— murrell and former snp treasurer cottr teettte .— murrell and former snp treasurer colin beattie , who— murrell and former snp treasurer colin beattie , who were both colin beattie, who were both trueettaetet— colin beattie, who were both investigated over party finances and investigated over party finances ert reteeeet— investigated over party finances and released without charge . the and released without charge. the ertme— and released without charge. the crime . crimean— and released without charge. the crime . crimean city— and released without charge. the crime . crimean city of crime. crimean city of sevastopol— crime. crimean city of sevastopol has been hit by an etteaet— sevastopol has been hit by an alleged drone— sevastopol has been hit by an alleged drone attack. the fire eueet— alleged drone attack. the fire eueet by— alleged drone attack. the fire eueet by the— alleged drone attack. the fire caused by the attack happened at a caused by the attack happened at etuet— caused by the attack happened at etuet etoreae— caused by the attack happened at a fuel storage facility but has

etree— a fuel storage facility but has teer— a fuel storage facility but has since been localised. the crtmeer— since been localised. the crimean city,— since been localised. the crimean city, which russia errexet— crimean city, which russia annexed from _ crimean city, which russia annexed from ukraine in 2014, hee— annexed from ukraine in 2014, hee ome— annexed from ukraine in 2014, has come under— annexed from ukraine in 2014, has come under repeated air etteete— has come under repeated air etteete etree— has come under repeated air attacks since russia sent troops trte— attacks since russia sent troops trto utretre— attacks since russia sent troops into ukraine last— attacks since russia sent troops into ukraine last february . into ukraine last february. tueeter— into ukraine last february. russian officials have blamed the etteete— russian officials have blamed the attacks on— russian officials have blamed the attacks on .— russian officials have blamed the attacks on . ukraine official the attacks on. ukraine official toeumerte— the attacks on. ukraine official documents about— the attacks on. ukraine official documents about a £13 billion towet— documents about a £13 billion ttowet weuw— documents about a £13 billion royal navy submarine have been reportettw— royal navy submarine have been reportedly found— royal navy submarine have been reportedly found in the toilets of reportedly found in the toilets ot e— reportedly found in the toilets of a wetherspoons pub. the sun rewepeper— of a wetherspoons pub. the sun rewepeper hee— of a wetherspoons pub. the sun newspaper has said files about the hors— newspaper has said files about the hms anson— newspaper has said files about the hms anson were left in the turreee— the hms anson were left in the furnace railway— the hms anson were left in the furnace railway in— the hms anson were left in the furnace railway in cumbria. it eett— furnace railway in cumbria. it eett the— furnace railway in cumbria. it said the documents appear to ehow— said the documents appear to ehow the— said the documents appear to show the inner— said the documents appear to show the inner workings of the ueeeet — show the inner workings of the ueeeet the— show the inner workings of the vessel. the royal— show the inner workings of the vessel. the royal navy has said in vessel. the royal navy has said tr e— vessel. the royal navy has said in a statement— vessel. the royal navy has said in a statement that no classic etttet— in a statement that no classic allied information appeared in thoee— allied information appeared in thoee pepere— allied information appeared in those papers as— allied information appeared in those papers as a photograph of the ttra— those papers as a photograph of the king studying— those papers as a photograph of the king studying at cambridge umuerettw— the king studying at cambridge university has— the king studying at cambridge university has been released for the thet— university has been released for the first time.— university has been released for the first time. trinity college eheet— the first time. trinity college eheret thre— the first time. trinity college shared this picture of the then 18 shared this picture of the then re weer— shared this picture of the then re weer ott— shared this picture of the then 18 year old prince ahead of his cororettor. — 18 year old prince ahead of his coronation. next— 18 year old prince ahead of his coronation. next week, charles etuttet— coronation. next week, charles studied archaeology and erthropotoaw— studied archaeology and anthropology in his first year ert— anthropology in his first year ert ther— anthropology in his first year and then history— anthropology in his first year and then history for two years, aretuettra—

and then history for two years, aretuetrra .— and then history for two years, aretuetrra . rr— and then history for two years, graduating . in 1970 and three, graduating. in 1970 and three, new photographs of the king and oueer— new photographs of the king and queer coreort— new photographs of the king and queen consort have been released eheet— queen consort have been released eheet ot— queen consort have been released eheet ot rext— queen consort have been released ahead of next week's coronation the— ahead of next week's coronation the tmeaee— ahead of next week's coronation the images were— ahead of next week's coronation the images were taken in the peteee-e— the images were taken in the peteee-e ttue— the images were taken in the palace's blue drawing room last morth— palace's blue drawing room last morth .— palace's blue drawing room last morth . ere— palace's blue drawing room last month . one shows— palace's blue drawing room last month . one shows the couple month. one shows the couple eterttra— month. one shows the couple etertrra ette— month. one shows the couple standing side by— month. one shows the couple standing side by side in front of standing side by side in front ot e— standing side by side in front or e portrett— standing side by side in front of a portrait of— standing side by side in front of a portrait of king george, the— of a portrait of king george, the thtr— of a portrait of king george, the tttth et— of a portrait of king george, the fifth at his— of a portrait of king george, the fifth at his coronation in 1911. — the fifth at his coronation in 1911. another— the fifth at his coronation in 1911. another shows charles and cemttte— 1911. another shows charles and camilla individually with the oueer— camilla individually with the queen consort,— camilla individually with the queen consort, wearing the late oueee— queen consort, wearing the late oueee peert— queen consort, wearing the late queen's pearl drop— queen consort, wearing the late queen's pearl drop earrings . queen's pearl drop earrings. thre— queen's pearl drop earrings. thte te— queen's pearl drop earrings. thte re et— queen's pearl drop earrings. this is gb news.— queen's pearl drop earrings. this is gb news. we'll bring you more news as it— this is gb news. we'll bring you more news as it happens . as now more news as it happens. as now it's more news as it happens. as now he teet— more news as it happens. as now he teet to— more news as it happens. as now he teet to .— it's back to. martin thert— it's back to. martin thank you- it's back to. martin thank you for the update. tethere— thank you for the update. tatiana . well,— thank you for the update. well, we're back to the tatiana. well, we're back to the ttaaeet— tatiana. well, we're back to the ttaaeet etorw— tatiana. well, we're back to the ttaaeet etorw ot— tatiana. well, we're back to the biggest story of the— well, we're back to the biggest story of the week now. of biggest story of the week now. or eouree— biggest story of the week now. of course, that's— biggest story of the week now. of course, that's richard eherpe. — of course, that's richard sherpe. the— of course, that's richard sharpe. the bbc chair resigned thre— sharpe. the bbc chair resigned thte weet— sharpe. the bbc chair resigned this week over— sharpe. the bbc chair resigned this week over his— sharpe. the bbc chair resigned this week over his dealings with torre— this week over his dealings with torte rohreor— this week over his dealings with boris johnson .— this week over his dealings with boris johnson . report found this week over his dealings with borirsharpetn . report found this week over his dealings with borirsharpe breachedtrt found this week over his dealings with borirsharpe breached the)und this week over his dealings with borirsharpe breached the rules that sharpe breached the rules of that sharpe breached the rules ot putte— that sharpe breached the rules of public appointments by not tuttw— of public appointments by not fully disclosing— of public appointments by not fully disclosing knowledge fully disclosing his knowledge of fully disclosing his knowledge ot the— fully disclosing his knowledge ot the tx—pme— fully disclosing his knowledge of the ex—pms personal finances

. ae— of the ex—pms personal finances . ae the— of the ex—pms personal finances a the eherr— of the ex—pms personal finances . as the chair called— of the ex—pms personal finances . as the chair called it, quits . eewtra— . as the chair called it, quits . eewtra tt— . as the chair called it, quits . eewtra rt wee— . as the chair called it, quits , saying it was right, the right thtra— , saying it was right, the right thtra to— , saying it was right, the right thtra to to— , saying it was right, the right thing to do and— , saying it was right, the right thing to do and in the best trtereete— thing to do and in the best interests of— thing to do and in the best interests of the _ thing to do and in the best interests of the bbc. well, join me now-discuss— interests of the bbc. well, join me now discuss this is our me now to discuss this is our potttteet— me now to discuss this is our political reporter,— me now to discuss this is our political reporter, cath renforcer. _ political reporter, cath renforcer. catherine richard sherpe— renforcer. catherine richard sherpe hee— renforcer. catherine richard sharpe has bit— renforcer. catherine richard sharpe has bit the bullet at the etc.— sharpe has bit the bullet at the tee. ree— sharpe has bit the bullet at the etc. we aot— sharpe has bit the bullet at the etc. we aot aot— sharpe has bit the bullet at the bbc. he's got got the boot. did he reetar— bbc. he's got got the boot. did he reetar or— bbc. he's got got the boot. did he resign or was— bbc. he's got got the boot. did he resign or was he forced into three— he resign or was he forced into three wett— he resign or was he forced into this? well he— he resign or was he forced into this? well he did— he resign or was he forced into this? well he did resign, but it eertetrtw— this? well he did resign, but it certainly sounds— this? well he did resign, but it certainly sounds now like pressure was brought to bear. appererttw— pressure was brought to bear. appererttw the— pressure was brought to bear. apparently the bbc— pressure was brought to bear. apparently the bbc board- pressure was brought to bear. apparently the bbc board were given a pre briefing on the contents of the report earlier in the week and were very concerned by what it contained . concerned by what it contained. so he met with the director general, tim davie , on thursday general, tim davie, on thursday as apparently he'd already decided by then that he had no choice but to resign . and choice but to resign. and reading the room and reading concerns that obviously this was going to be a massive distraction if he tried to cling on. so he's decided to go. he says that the mistake was inadvertent , says that the mistake was inadvertent, but certainly the

rules state that you have to declare any potential . all declare any potential. all conflicts of interest and telling boris johnson that he was going to apply for the role before he applied. and then his role in facilitating this £800,000 loan in and not telling the appointments panel either of those things does mean that it was a clear breach of the rules. now catherine, since we've been on now catherine, since we've been or etr— now catherine, since we've been or err e eeoorrt— now catherine, since we've been on air a cartoon has— now catherine, since we've been on air a cartoon has been putttehet— on air a cartoon has been putttehet by— on air a cartoon has been published by the guardian, as i urteretert— published by the guardian, as i understand it,— published by the guardian, as i understand it, it's— published by the guardian, as i understand it, it's subsequently teer— understand it, it's subsequently been deleted— understand it, it's subsequently been deleted .— understand it, it's subsequently been deleted . it— understand it, it's subsequently been deleted . it appeared online been deleted. it appeared online here— been deleted. it appeared online here tt— been deleted. it appeared online here t he.— been deleted. it appeared online here t he. rt— been deleted. it appeared online here it is. it quite— been deleted. it appeared online here it is. it quite clearly portrewe— here it is. it quite clearly portrewe the— here it is. it quite clearly portrays the extent of richard sherpe— portrays the extent of richard sherpe there— portrays the extent of richard sharpe there with a box goldman seehe— sharpe there with a box goldman seehe or— sharpe there with a box goldman seehe or t— sharpe there with a box goldman seehe or t .— sharpe there with a box goldman sachs on it . there's— sharpe there with a box goldman sachs on it. there's a pig's heet— sachs on it. there's a pig's heet tr— sachs on it. there's a pig's heet hr the— sachs on it. there's a pig's head in the background . there's head in the background. there's a head in the background. there's e pte— head in the background. there's e ptte ot— head in the background. there's e ptte ot whet— head in the background. there's a pile of what looks like manure wtth— a pile of what looks like manure wtth morew— a pile of what looks like manure with money with— a pile of what looks like manure with money with boris on top , with money with boris on top, ert— with money with boris on top, ert there-e— with money with boris on top, and there's an— with money with boris on top, and there's an octopus in there. now— and there's an octopus in there. how. r— and there's an octopus in there. how. r trow— and there's an octopus in there. now, i know that— and there's an octopus in there. now, i know that these are eteertw— now, i know that these are clearly anti—semitic tropes here.— clearly anti—semitic tropes here. eert— clearly anti—semitic tropes here, aren't they? they are. art— here, aren't they? they are. art eertetrtw— here, aren't they? they are. and certainly there's- here, aren't they? they are. and certainly there's a - here, aren't they? they are. and certainly there's a picture

of a 1938 image, anti—semitic image of an octopus in circling the globe with its tentacles. these are , you know, the pig's these are, you know, the pig's head, the outsized facial features, counting his money, the octopus. well known antisemitic trope , aukus. now, i antisemitic trope, aukus. now, i personally didn't even realise until i saw this that richard sharpe was jewish. but for the guardian to put this out, it's by cartoonist michael rosen , and by cartoonist michael rosen, and it was out for many , many hours. it was out for many, many hours. now it's been taken down. but you have to wonder how it ever got publish it. i mean, on the hert.— got publish it. i mean, on the one hand, satire— got publish it. i mean, on the one hand, satire is— grtrc c i mean, on the one hand, satire is satire. were ettowet— one hand, satire is satire. were ettowet to— one hand, satire is satire. were allowed to satirise_ one hand, satire is satire. were allowed to satirise politicians. tut— allowed to satirise politicians. tut thre— allowed to satirise politicians. but this crosses— allowed to satirise politicians. but this crosses the rubicon. suretw— but this crosses the rubicon. suretw ee— but this crosses the rubicon. suretw ee we— but this crosses the rubicon. surely as we saw— but this crosses the rubicon. surely as we saw with with diane attott— surely as we saw with with diane attott teet— surely as we saw with with diane abbott last week. _ surely as we saw with with diane abbott last week. and why is it thet— abbott last week. and why is it thet peopte— abbott last week. and why is it thet peopte or— abbott last week. and why is it that people on the left seem to heue— that people on the left seem to heue e— that people on the left seem to heue e tttrt— that people on the left seem to have a blind spot— that people on the left seem to have a blind spot and they don't thtrt— have a blind spot and they don't think anti—semitism is racism ? think anti—semitism is racism? txeettw. — think anti—semitism is racism? txeettw. rte— think anti—semitism is racism? exactly. it's exactly- think anti—semitism is racism? exactly. c �*iifikirtf�*ecc�*ur think anti—semitism is racism? exactly. c t exactly. it's exactly what you said, isn't a spot? said, isn't it a blind spot? because because what diana said

at the beginning of the week saying that, you know, jewish people didn't experience racism in the same way, that it was more akin to prejudice that you might get if you've got red hair. i mean , it's insane, isn't hair. i mean, it's insane, isn't it? because 6 million people died in the holocaust. it? because 6 million people died in the holocaust . racism died in the holocaust. racism can exist no matter what your skin colour is. and to see this, to see the guardian. so closely, following only a few days since all we were talking about was diane abbott's . and now to see diane abbott's. and now to see this really , really quite this really, really quite shocking. and i think there will be huge amount of criticism be a huge amount of criticism for the guardian. and you wonder what the people at the top were doing authorising this. and it's not the time. doing authorising this. and it's not the-time. the- not the first time. the gutter.— not the first time. the guardian, of- not the first time. the guardian, of course, printed not the first time. the guaicartoon course, printed not the first time. the guaicartoon of urse, printed not the first time. the guaicartoon of priti printed not the first time. the guaicartoon of priti patelzd not the first time. the guaicartoon of priti patel with that cartoon of priti patel with a that cartoon of priti patel with e-throuah— that cartoon of priti patel with e-throuah her— that cartoon of priti patel with a through her nose as as as a ring through her nose as as as as a ring through her nose as as as ee er ertmet— a ring through her nose as as as as an animal grossly offensive to peopte— as an animal grossly offensive to peopte ot— as an animal grossly offensive to people of her— as an animal grossly offensive to people of her faith . suella to people of her faith. suella braverman they've been utterly eortemretorw— braverman they've been utterly condemnatory in— braverman they've been utterly condemnatory in their caricature trewtra— condemnatory in their caricature trewtra ot— condemnatory in their caricature trewtra ot her.— condemnatory in their caricature drawing of her. are we allowed to te—

drawing of her. are we allowed to te thre— drawing of her. are we allowed to be this cruel— drawing of her. are we allowed to be this cruel in— drawing of her. are we allowed to be this cruel in politics, or is to be this cruel in politics, or re the— to be this cruel in politics, or re the ermptw— to be this cruel in politics, or is this simply a— to be this cruel in politics, or is this simply a step too far? wett— is this simply a step too far? wett ett— is this simply a step too far? wett ett wou— is this simply a step too far? well all you have to be very eeretut— well all you have to be very careful, don't— well all you have to be very careful, don't you? t careful, don't you? because the certain things that are seen as beyond the to be race ist beyond the pale to be race ist against somebody of ethnic minority, but some people seem to feel that jews are fair game . it's incredibly difficult . and . it's incredibly difficult. and of course, let's not forget that bods of course, let's not forget that boris johnson came in for vast amounts of criticism and abuse , amounts of criticism and abuse, talking about people that wore burkas as being like letterboxes . now, he said, i was joking , . now, he said, i was joking, but he came in for a huge amount of criticism. so you know how do you balance this? is it okay ? is you balance this? is it okay? is it not okay? certainly. i think most people are looking at that guardian cartoon would say absolutely that is not absolutely that that is not okay. bearing in mind what has happened to the jews throughout history. yeah i've just heard actually, this was published in the newspaper here. it wasn't just the newspaper here. it wasn't ruet orttre.— the newspaper here. it wasn't just online, but— the newspaper here. it wasn't just online, but it— the newspaper here. it wasn't just online, but it has- it wasn't just online, but it has been remouet— just online, but it has been removed online— just online, but it has been removed online at least they've ttrt— removed online at least they've ttrt ot— removed online at least they've kind of realised— removed online at least they've kind of realised that this was a etep— kind of realised that this was a etep-orttre.— kind of realised that this was a step-online.-of- step too far online. but of course-still- step too far online. but of

course still there , step too far online. but of. course-still-there , at course it's still out there, at teeet— course it's still out there, at teeet-rext- course it's still out there, at least-next day- course it's still out there, at least-next day .- course it's still out there, at least next day . it's least for the next day. it's a terrttte— least for the next day. it's a terrible thing— least for the next day. it's a terrible thing to— least for the next day. it's a terrible thing to have done. t hty— terrible thing to have done. thew aot— terrible thing to have done. they got their— terrible thing to have done. they got their man this shop's teer— they got their man this shop's teer roreet— they got their man this shop's been forced out. _ they got their man this shop's been forced out. it's kind of autttw— been forced out. it's kind of autttw ee— been forced out. it's kind of guilty as charged . there's no guilty as charged. there's no reet— guilty as charged. there's no reet to— guilty as charged. there's no need to double— guilty as charged. there's no need to double down with a cruel etteet— need to double down with a cruel etteet ee— need to double down with a cruel etteet ee wou— need to double down with a cruel etteet ee wou ao— need to double down with a cruel attack as you go through the extt— attack as you go through the extt teer— attack as you go through the extt toor . — attack as you go through the exit door . no,— attack as you go through the exit door . no, no,- attack as you go through the exit door. trtr t exit door. no, no, certainly there isn't . but i think it does there isn't. but i think it does raise raise questions, doesn't it? now, apart from the fact he didn't declare these potential conflicts of interests, you know, these are appointments are made who , you know, matters. and made who, you know, matters. and there is this revolving door, isn't there, between the media and between government and people in positions of power. and we know that this exists and it doesn't make it a great thing that it's happening. and this is really shining a light onto it. now, obviously, boris johnson, michael gove both worked in newspapers, then worked in government . that's very well government. that's very well known. but there is this constant carousel of people in the media, people in government swapping around who, you know, these contacts , these big jobs, these contacts, these big jobs, paying these contacts, these big jobs,

paying very large salaries. now, richard sharp, he's worth 200 million. he doesn't need the 160,000. he gives it to charity, but it gives the impression of this very closed , tight, this very closed, tight, incestuous circle , if you like, incestuous circle, if you like, of power in this country. that's very questionable, i think, to many people. and it makes you wonder who'd want the job next if the if the level of scrutiny is such everything you've ever donated, everything you've ever said, and then treatment on said, and then the treatment on the way out through the revolving disgusting revolving door by disgusting cartoons like that catherine force thank you for joining me today on the show . okay. on to today on the show. okay. on to our today on the show. okay. on to rext— today on the show. okay. on to rext etorw— today on the show. okay. on to our next story now.— today on the show. okay. on to our next story now. in- today on the show. okay. on to our next story now. in a- : rtrh okay. on to our next story now. in a bizarre twtet— our next story now. in a bizarre twtet ot— our next story now. in a bizarre twtet ot tete. — our next story now. in a bizarre twist of fate, the _ our next story now. in a bizarre twist of fate, the government eetuettw— twist of fate, the government actually reached _ twist of fate, the government actually reached its target. it set actually reached its target. it eet tteett. — actually reached its target. it set itself. that's— actually reached its target. it set itself. that's right. in tort.— set itself. that's right. in 2019,the_ set itself. that's right. in 2019, the tourist said that they wttt— 2019, the tourist said that they wttt reeutt— 2019, the tourist said that they will recruit 20,000 new police orttere— will recruit 20,000 new police ottteere .— will recruit 20,000 new police officers . and— will recruit 20,000 new police officers . and this— will recruit 20,000 new police officers . and this week they officers. and this week they eetuettw— officers. and this week they actually reached that target. tut— actually reached that target. tut orrtee— actually reached that target. but critics are— actually reached that target. but critics are keen to point out— but critics are keen to point out thet— but critics are keen to point out thet the— but critics are keen to point out that the number of actual rumte— out that the number of actual rumte ot— out that the number of actual number of police— out that the number of actual number of police officers is ortw— number of police officers is ortw etee— number of police officers is only 3500 higher than it was in zero. — only 3500 higher than it was in zero. tut— only 3500 higher than it was in 2010. but joining— only 3500 higher than it was in 2010. but joining me now is tormer— 2010. but joining me now is torrrer aret— 2010. but joining me now is former met detective peter ttetetew— former met detective peter ttetetew. e— former met detective peter

bleksley, a font of knowledge on all bleksley, a font of knowledge on ett mettere— bleksley, a font of knowledge on all matters policing. peter thert— all matters policing. peter thert wou— all matters policing. peter thank you for— all matters policing. peter thank you for coming on the ehow— thank you for coming on the ehow. so— thank you for coming on the ehow. so thew— thank you for coming on the show. so they finally hit their teraet. — show. so they finally hit their teraet. re— show. so they finally hit their teraet. re tt— show. so they finally hit their target. is it too— show. so they finally hit their target. is it too little too tete— target. is it too little too tete e — target. is it too little too tete e tm— target. is it too little too late ? i'm very- target. is it too little too late ? rrt;”g gcer: target. is it too little too- late ? i'm very glad that boris late? i'm very glad that boris johnson's target was hit this week and that rishi sunak took such delight from the target being met. although of course, wttt— being met. although of course, wttt eew— being met. although of course, some will say because- hrg although of course, some will say because of increases in population that we reet— increases in population that we need even more police officers. art— need even more police officers. art r— need even more police officers. art r thtrt— need even more police officers. and i think that's— need even more police officers. and i think that's very true too. — and i think that's very true too. r— and i think that's very true too. r etee— and i think that's very true too. i also need— and i think that's very true too. i also need to point out , too. i also need to point out, of course, that— too. i also need to point out, of course, that the metropolitan rotte— of course, that the metropolitan rottee. the — of course, that the metropolitan police, the largest— of course, that the metropolitan police, the largest force in tratert— police, the largest force in england, didn't hit its target for recruitment. _ england, didn't hit its target for recruitment. it fell short by eoe— for recruitment. it fell short by roee— for recruitment. it fell short by some 1000 thousand or so ottteere. — by some 1000 thousand or so ottteere. eo— by some 1000 thousand or so officers. so there— by some 1000 thousand or so officers. so there is still more wort— officers. so there is still more wort to— officers. so there is still more wort to te— officers. so there is still more work to be done— officers. so there is still more work to be done . - officers. so there is still more work to be done . work to be done. peter, i know when you were on the show, recent albie, you said you had concerns about the vetting process of new officers. obviously there's been a huge amount of scrutiny around that . amount of scrutiny around that. but if we're if we're vetting so many officers in a short period of time , how can we guarantee we of time, how can we guarantee we won't keep out the wrong ones?

well well, we simply don't. and we know that in recent- : h c and we know that in recent times , we know that in recent times, uetttra— we know that in recent times, uettrra whteh— we know that in recent times, vetting which fell way , way vetting which fell way, way erort— vetting which fell way, way ehort ot— vetting which fell way, way short of what— vetting which fell way, way short of what we the public ehoutt— short of what we the public should expect,— short of what we the public should expect, has enabled peopte— should expect, has enabled peopte who— should expect, has enabled people who are— should expect, has enabled people who are entirely unsuitable— people who are entirely unsuitable to- people who are entirely unsuitable to policing to get a werrert— unsuitable to policing to get a uuerrert eert— unsuitable to policing to get a warrant card and— unsuitable to policing to get a warrant card and wear that urttorm— warrant card and wear that urttorm .— warrant card and wear that uniform . there— warrant card and wear that uniform . there is, of course, an uniform. there is, of course, an oraotra— uniform. there is, of course, an oraorra proeee— uniform. there is, of course, an oraorra proeee tr— uniform. there is, of course, an ongoing process in order to try ert— ongoing process in order to try and remove those— ongoing process in order to try and remove those officers. but yes— and remove those officers. but yes .— and remove those officers. but wee . thet— and remove those officers. but wee . thet te— and remove those officers. but yes , that is remains a big, big yes, that is remains a big, big concern for me. _ yes, that is remains a big, big concern for me. have all these 20,000 officers been suitably checked? do we know that they are worthy people who are going to be dedicated public servants or are we going to face another slew of stories of wrongdoing, unacceptable behaviour and further embarrassing time will tell. well, further embarrassing time will tell . well, peter, we know often tell. well, peter, we know often we epeet— tell. well, peter, we know often we epeet etout— tell. well, peter, we know often we speak about the— well, peter, we know often we speak about the fact that mote— we speak about the fact that morale within— we speak about the fact that morale within the police force is morale within the police force re verv— morale within the police force re uerw tow.— morale within the police force is very low. they're criticised all is very low. they're criticised ett the— is very low. they're criticised all the time.— is very low. they're criticised all the time. endless reports eeme-etout— all the time. endless reports come about institutional come out about the institutional racism , homophobia, misogyny ,

racism, homophobia, misogyny, howt_ racism, homophobia, misogyny, how. how— racism, homophobia, misogyny, how, how hard— racism, homophobia, misogyny, how, how hard a— racism, homophobia, misogyny, how, how hard a task is it going to te— how, how hard a task is it going to te to— how, how hard a task is it going to be to actually— how, how hard a task is it going to be to actually persuade peopte— to be to actually persuade peopte to— to be to actually persuade peopte to rorr— to be to actually persuade people to join the force when thew-re— people to join the force when thew-re eo— people to join the force when they're so often— people to join the force when they're so often attacked and temteetet— they're so often attacked and temteetet e— they're so often attacked and lambasted ? well well, to a lambasted? well well, to a eertetr— lambasted? well well, to a certain extent,— lambasted? well well, to a certain extent, the police have etwewe— certain extent, the police have etwewe teer— certain extent, the police have always been subject to screw arrhe— always been subject to screw arrte by— always been subject to screw arrte by the— always been subject to screw arnie by the media, and they've teer— arnie by the media, and they've been criticised— arnie by the media, and they've been criticised as— arnie by the media, and they've been criticised as far back as the— been criticised as far back as the tewe— been criticised as far back as the daysr tera— been criticised as far back as the days, long, long time ago wher— the days, long, long time ago wher r— the days, long, long time ago when i joined. _ the days, long, long time ago when i joined. : when i joined. but as i would say to any potential new police recruit, there are two things you need to bear in mind . you need to bear in mind. number one, you won't get rich in number one, you won't get rich tr ett— number one, you won't get rich in all likelihood— number one, you won't get rich in all likelihood unless , of in all likelihood unless, of course, you you- in all likelihood unless, of course, you you aspire to one of the— course, you you aspire to one of the verv— course, you you aspire to one of the very verv— course, you you aspire to one of the very, very senior— course, you you aspire to one of the very, very senior ranks so wou— the very, very senior ranks so wou wort— the very, very senior ranks so wou wor-t aet— the very, very senior ranks so you won't get rich- the very, very senior ranks so you won't get rich and you won't be you won't get rich and you won't te poputer— you won't get rich and you won't te poputer .— you won't get rich and you won't te poputer. tut— you won't get rich and you won't be popular. but the rewards that can be popular. but the rewards that te— be popular. but the rewards that te eeret— be popular. but the rewards that can be earned from doing a job whteh— can be earned from doing a job whteh te— can be earned from doing a job which is utterly— can be earned from doing a job which is utterly unique and like no which is utterly unique and like he aha,— which is utterly unique and like he other. ter— which is utterly unique and like no other, far outweigh any of the— no other, far outweigh any of the ptttette— no other, far outweigh any of the pitfalls and— no other, far outweigh any of the pitfalls and i— no other, far outweigh any of the pitfalls and i still do urge peopte— the pitfalls and i still do urge peopte to— the pitfalls and i still do urge peopte to reth— the pitfalls and i still do urge people to join, because if woure— people to join, because if woure aorra— people to join, because if woure aorra to- people to join, because if you're going to be a dedicated puttte— you're going to be a dedicated public servant,— you're going to be a dedicated public servant, if— you're going to be a dedicated public servant, if you're going to mete— public servant, if you're going to mete the— public servant, if you're going to make the sacrifices that potretra— to make the sacrifices that potterra eete— to make the sacrifices that policing asks of you, and if

euerw— policing asks of you, and if euerw tew— policing asks of you, and if euerw tew wou— policing asks of you, and if every day you are going to be eomptetetw— every day you are going to be completely committed to every teet— completely committed to every teet .— completely committed to every teet . eer— completely committed to every task , even when— completely committed to every task , even when that is task, even when that is extremetw— task, even when that is extremely difficult, then you wttt— extremely difficult, then you wttt heue— extremely difficult, then you wttt heue e— extremely difficult, then you will have a career of public eewtee— will have a career of public service that— will have a career of public service that you— will have a career of public service that you will be able to toot— service that you will be able to toot teet— service that you will be able to toot teet or— service that you will be able to look back on with— service that you will be able to look back on with great pride . look back on with great pride. teu— look back on with great pride. veu trow.— look back on with great pride. you know, peter,— look back on with great pride. you know, peter, we've- look back on with great pride. you know, peter, we've been contacted by viewers today who are saying, you know, hallelujah to this, they're more likely to see on their streets see criminals on their streets who than bobbies who who they know than bobbies who they know. so certainly bobbies on the beat is something that people want. but is of the people want. but is part of the problem, not the numbers of officers, peter. but the types officers, peter. but the types of and they're expected of police. and they're expected to do now. they seem to spend a lot of on social media or lot of time on social media or look after missing persons or acting de facto social acting as a de facto social services. is it just time to get back to proper grassroots policing with . without a doubt policing with. without a doubt it policing with. without a doubt t he.— policing with. without a doubt t he. art— policing with. without a doubt it is. and we've— policing with. without a doubt it is. and we've been- rt. hg without a doubt it is. and we've been hearing some encouraging noises from the home— some encouraging noises from the home seereterw— some encouraging noises from the home secretary suella braverman, who werte— home secretary suella braverman, who wants police— home secretary suella braverman, who wants police to— home secretary suella braverman, who wants police to focus on potretra— who wants police to focus on potterra .— who wants police to focus on potterra . rr— who wants police to focus on policing . in the— who wants police to focus on policing . in the last 20 years policing. in the last 20 years or there-e— policing. in the last 20 years or so, there's been a kind of reottteret— or so, there's been a kind of neoliberal orthodoxy that has

pottutet — neoliberal orthodoxy that has polluted policing leadership and has polluted policing leadership and hee tet— polluted policing leadership and hee tet to— polluted policing leadership and has led to officers— polluted policing leadership and has led to officers becoming , polluted policing leadership and has led to officers becoming, in so has led to officers becoming, in eo merw— has led to officers becoming, in so many regards,— has led to officers becoming, in so many regards, mental health workers, social— so many regards, mental health workers, social workers , and workers, social workers, and trterprettra— workers, social workers, and interpreting the _ workers, social workers, and interpreting the law for themselves— interpreting the law for themselves rather than enforcing them selves rather than enforcing themselves rather than enforcing the tew— themselves rather than enforcing the tew. rt— themselves rather than enforcing the tew. rt we— themselves rather than enforcing the law. if we can— themselves rather than enforcing the law. if we can get back to the— the law. if we can get back to the prrrerptee— the law. if we can get back to the principles of— the law. if we can get back to the principles of policing, whteh— the principles of policing, whteh te— the principles of policing, which is what— the principles of policing, which is what i'm sure your ert— which is what i'm sure your viewers and listeners want, teeuee— viewers and listeners want, because that's— viewers and listeners want, because that's what people tell ert— because that's what people tell ert thet— because that's what people tell me, and that is— because that's what people tell me, and that is patrol all the etreete— me, and that is patrol all the etreete. te— me, and that is patrol all the streets, be visible— me, and that is patrol all the streets, be visible . that makes streets, be visible. that makes the puttte— streets, be visible. that makes the public confident and it hetpe— the public confident and it hetpe the— the public confident and it helps the public trust police ottteere. — helps the public trust police officers. secondly when crime is reportet— officers. secondly when crime is reportet or— officers. secondly when crime is reported or investigated prompttw— reported or investigated promptly and professionally and trtrttw— promptly and professionally and thtrttw. teet— promptly and professionally and thirdly toet up— promptly and professionally and thirdly, lock up bad people, teeuee— thirdly, lock up bad people, because those, _ thirdly, lock up bad people, because those, in my opinion , because those, in my opinion, whet— because those, in my opinion, whet the— because those, in my opinion, are what the public want. the potte— are what the public want. the pottee to— are what the public want. the pottee to to. — are what the public want. the police to do. hear, hear to thet. — police to do. hear, hear to that. peter— police to do. hear, hear to that. peter ,_ police to do. hear, hear to that. �*7 that. peter, finally, peter, 20,000 new officers do we have reason to be optimistic about this ? yes , as long as they've this? yes, as long as they've teer— this? yes, as long as they've teer uettet— 57 yes, as long as they've been vetted properly , that

been vetted properly, that thew-re— been vetted properly, that they're trained _ been vetted properly, that they're trained properly and thet— they're trained properly and thet thew— they're trained properly and that they are _ they're trained properly and that they are supervised and mereaet— that they are supervised and managed properly by experienced eepe— managed properly by experienced eope who— managed properly by experienced eope who trow— managed properly by experienced cops who know what they're tetra. — cops who know what they're tetra. rt— cops who know what they're doing. if those— cops who know what they're doing. �*7 ch”rt;rt; e”rt; doing. if those three boxes are ticks, then this is going to be a good story . peter bleksley, a good story. peter bleksley, thert— a good story. peter bleksley, thert wou.— a good story. peter bleksley, thank you. joining— g: tcrtrq peter bleksley, thank you. joining us from rtetw. — thank you. joining us from rtetw. r— thank you. joining us from rtetw. r hope— thank you. joining us from italy. i hope you're about to enjoy— italy. i hope you're about to err-ow e— italy. i hope you're about to err-ow e ateee— italy. i hope you're about to enjoy a glass of— italy. i hope you're about to enjoy a glass of something ice eett. — enjoy a glass of something ice eett. thert— enjoy a glass of something ice cold. thank you,— enjoy a glass of something ice cold. thank you, as ever, for wour— cold. thank you, as ever, for wour trput— cold. thank you, as ever, for wour trput or— cold. thank you, as ever, for your input on gb— cold. thank you, as ever, for your input on gb news. okay. rorrtra— your input on gb news. okay. rorrrra me— your input on gb news. okay. rorrrra me how— your input on gb news. okay. joining me now is— your input on gb news. okay. joining me now is former dci in the wet.— joining me now is former dci in the nu, terw— joining me now is former dci in the met, perry benton. hello to you,— the met, perry benton. hello to your terw— the met, perry benton. hello to you, perry. thanks— the met, perry benton. hello to you, perry. thanks forjoining us. you, perry. thanks forjoining tou— you, perry. thanks forjoining us. you heard— you, perry. thanks forjoining us. you heard what peter said there.— us. you heard what peter said there. we— us. you heard what peter said there. we have— us. you heard what peter said there. we have reasons to be opttmtette— there. we have reasons to be optimistic. do— there. we have reasons to be optimistic. do you agree ? tcith optimistic. do you agree? oh, reet— optimistic. do you agree? oh, roow ereea r— optimistic. do you agree? oh, 100% agree. i think- optimistic. do you agree? tcith �*00�*5�*6 erg”rt;rt; i think my optimistic. do you agree? tcith �*oo�*ea�*b erg”rt;rt; i think my colleague 100% agree. i think my colleague is 100% agree. i think my colleague re rtaht— 100% agree. i think my colleague re rtaht tr— 100% agree. i think my colleague re rtaht tr thet— 100% agree. i think my colleague is right in that we— �*oo�*ea�*b erg”rt;rt; i think my colleague is right in that we should all toot— is right in that we should all toot or— is right in that we should all look on these— is right in that we should all look on these 20— is right in that we should all look on these 20 000 as eomethtra— look on these 20 000 as something positive . look on these 20 000 as- something positive . the biggest something positive. the biggest concern that i have, though , is concern that i have, though, is thatis concern that i have, though, is that is only a small drop of replacement of those officers that have retired and resigned . that have retired and resigned. my that have retired and resigned. my colleague mentioned that the puttte— my colleague mentioned that the puttte wert— my colleague mentioned that the puttte wert ue— my colleague mentioned that the public want us to— my colleague mentioned that the public want us to look up bad guys— public want us to look up bad auwe ert— public want us to look up bad auwe ert he— public want us to look up bad guys and he talked about what the potte— guys and he talked about what the police-been- guys and he talked about what the police been doing over the police have been doing over the police have been doing over the teet— the police have been doing over the teet rt— the police have been doing over the teet to to— the police have been doing over the last 15 to 20— the police have been doing over the last 15 to 20 years. i the last 15 to 20 years. and i woutt— the last 15 to 20 years. and i woutt-thet— the last 15 to 20 years. and i would their sentiments. the would echo their sentiments. the pottetra— policing have gone away from whet— policing have gone away from whet-ehoutt— policing have gone away from what should doing. what they should be doing. they

ehoutt— what they should be doing. they should-supporting— should be supporting the communities.— communities. they should be trueettaetrra— investigating crimes. but for far investigating crimes. but for fer-teeeuee- investigating crimes. but for far-becauselthej far too long, because of the aouerrmert— far too long, because of the government cutbacks and the etoetra— government cutbacks and the closing . police _ government cutbacks and the closing police stations , the closing of police stations, the teet— closing of police stations, the teetleupport— closing of police stations, the teetleupport tr— closing of police stations, the lack support in communities, lack of support in communities, thet-e— lack of support in communities, thet-e where— lack of support in communities, that's where we're— lack of support in communities, that's where we're struggling in the pottee. — that's where we're struggling in the police. and— that's where we're struggling in the police. and i— that's where we're struggling in the police. and i think i emtee— the police. and i think i welcome the— the police. and i think i welcome the extra officers. i thtrt— welcome the extra officers. i think better— welcome the extra officers. i think better training needs to hepper— think better training needs to hepper .— think better training needs to hepper . art— think better training needs to happen . and also the fact that happen. and also the fact that in happen. and also the fact that hr the— happen. and also the fact that hr the aret— happen. and also the fact that in the met especially, they etoeet — in the met especially, they closed down _ in the met especially, they closed down what was once the wortt-e— closed down what was once the wortt-e teet— closed down what was once the world's best training college, rertor— world's best training college, hendon training— world's best training college, hendon training college was once the wortt-e— hendon training college was once the world's best— hendon training college was once the world's best and world teetere— the world's best and world leaders and— the world's best and world leaders and because of the eutteete— leaders and because of the cutbacks in— leaders and because of the cutbacks in the— leaders and because of the cutbacks in the government , cutbacks in the government, thew-ue— cutbacks in the government, thew-ue-etoee- cutbacks in the government, they've close down those they've had to close down those they've had to close down those the—row— they've had to close down those the—row heue- they've had to close down those the—now have extrai the college and now have extra tretrtra— the college and now have extra tretrtra et— the college and now have extra training at universities and trtrae— training at universities and thtrae ttte— training at universities and things like that. and that whole reeruttmert— things like that. and that whole recruitment and— things like that. and that whole recruitment and training piece reete— recruitment and training piece reete to— recruitment and training piece needs to i looked - recruitment and training piece needs to looked at because needs to be looked at because the— needs to be looked at because the potte— needs to be looked at because the police have— needs to be looked at because the police have gone away from trettttoret— the police have gone away from traditional-and- traditional training and recruitment— traditional training and recruitment because they wanted peopte— recruitment because they wanted peopte wtth— recruitment because they wanted people with direct— recruitment because they wanted people with direct entrance expeee — people with direct entrance experience universities and experience from universities and etee— experience from universities and etee tr— experience from universities and etee hr the— experience from universities and etee hr the wet.— experience from universities and also in the met. the only prettem— also in the met. the only problem with— also in the met. the only problem with the met is that thew— problem with the met is that thew etop— problem with the met is that they stop recruiting people from outette— they stop recruiting people from outette ot— they stop recruiting people from outside of london. _ they stop recruiting people from outside of london. they had a htetorw— outside of london. they had a history—recruiting. outside of london. they had a history recruiting , history recently of recruiting, reerutttra— history recently of recruiting, recruiting people purely from rertor— recruiting people purely from london because— recruiting people purely from london because they wanted rertor— london because they wanted london representative of london to be representative of the—thew- london to be representative of the—thew eewel london to be representative of. the _they serve, but the communities they serve, but thew—

the communities they serve, but thew-e— the communities they serve, but thew-e huae— the communities they serve, but they-a huge chunk- they missed a huge chunk of exeepttoret— they missed a huge chunk of exceptional people that would heue— exceptional people that would heue rorret— exceptional people that would have joined policing but have joined the policing but weret— have joined the policing but weren't-because. have joined the policing but weren't because of the weren't allowed because of the reeruttmert— weren't allowed because of the recruitment policy— weren't allowed because of the recruitment policy . recruitment policy. peter sorry, reru— recruitment policy. peter sorry, perry, you took the word out of my mouth there. we see the police getting criticised quite often, don't for being often, don't we, for being political, knee, political, for taking the knee, for doing tik tok dances, for wearing flags a lot of wearing pride flags and a lot of this does come out of the this does not come out of the fact that we are recruiting graduates . it's what would you graduates. it's what would you say idea of recruiting say to the idea of recruiting more for example , former more people, for example, former armed veterans who armed services veterans who leave the forces at an early age still have a lot to offer and they have the right kind of attitude to get things done. is the answer. the recruitment to be widened to include people without degrees? yeah yeah. 100% agree. like i say, the recent policy has been to recruit people either with degrees or to join the police and then go on to getting a degree whilst in policing. but far much of policing is around using common sense and it doesn't have to come from a degree pathway like degree pathway or anything like that. myself , i was that. you know, myself, i was just a normal school, i

just went to a normal school, i went and then i had went to got gcses and then i had a successful career as a homicide detective for 30 years. and i've, you know, rose through the ranks . so i and i've, you know, rose through the ranks. so i think the and i've, you know, rose through the ranks . so i think the whole the ranks. so i think the whole policy needs to be looked at to recruit from a wider pool. policing is one of the best jobs that you'll ever, ever do. you know, you get to help people day in, and a vast majority in, day out. and a vast majority of officers join the police to help . i know the police help people. i know the police has help people. i know the police hee het— help people. i know the police hee het eoe— help people. i know the police has had some issues- i know the police has had some issues recently. i know the police has met some issues recently. i know the police has met commissionertcently. i know the police has met commissioner is ntly. i know the police has met commissioner is tackling the met commissioner is tackling thet.— the met commissioner is tackling thet. tut— the met commissioner is tackling thet. tut the— the met commissioner is tackling that. but the met— the met commissioner is tackling that. but the met in generally in that. but the met in generally tr ttte— that. but the met in generally tr ttte ot— that. but the met in generally in 99% of people— that. but the met in generally in 99% of people want to do a aoot— in 99% of people want to do a aoot rot.— in 99% of people want to do a aoot rot. wert— in 99% of people want to do a good job, want to— in 99% of people want to do a good job, want to serve the puttte— good job, want to serve the putt. the— good job, want to serve the public. the biggest problem also is public. the biggest problem also te thet— public. the biggest problem also is that there's— public. the biggest problem also is that there's just— public. the biggest problem also is that there's just not enough potte— is that there's just not enough police officers— is that there's just not enough police officers to _ is that there's just not enough police officers to go around to eerte— police officers to go around to serve communities they now serve the communities they now repreeert. — serve the communities they now represent. there's— serve the communities they now represent. there's just not enough . and perry, represent. there's just not- enough-. and perry, what enough officers. and perry, what etout— enough officers. and perry, what etout the— enough officers. and perry, what about the criticism— enough officers. and perry, what about the criticism of— rt; 3 h rt.rt;”~; and perry, what about the criticism of the potte— about the criticism of the police, which _ about the criticism of the police, which i- about the criticism of the police, which i think has some mertt— police, which i think has some mertt. thet— police, which i think has some merit, that the— police, which i think has some merit, that the force has become potttteteete— merit, that the force has become politicised? the— merit, that the force has become politicised? the old notion of potretra— politicised? the old notion of policing without— politicised? the old notion of policing without fear or favour toeer-t— policing without fear or favour toeer-t eee— policing without fear or favour doesn't seem to— policing without fear or favour doesn't seem to apply. for exempte— doesn't seem to apply. for exempte .— doesn't seem to apply. for exempte . tt— doesn't seem to apply. for example , if you're a grammar example, if you're a grammar eehoot— example, if you're a grammar school teacher— example, if you're a grammar school teacher that's gone into htttra— school teacher that's gone into htttra tr— school teacher that's gone into hiding in batley_ school teacher that's gone into hiding in batley and certain communities—

hiding in batley and certain communities ,_ hiding in batley and certain communities , kids aren't getting communities, kids aren't getting the tutt— communities, kids aren't getting the tutt toree — communities, kids aren't getting the full force of— communities, kids aren't getting the full force of the law, other communities— the full force of the law, other communities aren't being proteetet— communities aren't being proteetet .— communities aren't being protected . we've seen with pride protected. we've seen with pride and protected. we've seen with pride ert ett— protected. we've seen with pride ert ett ot— protected. we've seen with pride and all of this— protected. we've seen with pride and all of this would you is it protected. we've seen with pride and ado rf this would you is it protected. we've seen with pride and ado you s would you is it protected. we've seen with pride and ado you think, .d you is it protected. we've seen with pride and ado you think, just u is it protected. we've seen with pride and a do you think, just to s it protected. we've seen with pride and a do you think, just to kick time, do you think, just to kick the pottttee— time, do you think, just to kick the politics out— time, do you think, just to kick the politics out of— time, do you think, just to kick the politics out of policing ? the politics out of policing? veer.— the politics out of policing? teehlearee— the politics out of policing? teehlearee. — the politics out of policing? yeah,iagree . i- the politics out of policing? yeah, agree . the politics out of policing? yeah, agree. yeah, i agree. i think, you know, the policing needs to, you know, the policing needs to, you know , do what the public want us know, do what the public want us to do. they want us to lock up tet— to do. they want us to lock up tet auwe. — to do. they want us to lock up tet auwe. thew— to do. they want us to lock up bad guys. they want- r:rtr they want us to lock up bad guys. they want us to protect— bad guys. they want us to protect-thew- bad guys. they want us to protect they want to us protect them. they want to us hetp— protect them. they want to us hetp them — protect them. they want to us help them where— protect them. they want to us help them where possible. but we reet— help them where possible. but we heet—eupport- help them where possible. but we heet—eupport. threi need the community support. this is a bigger problem than just policing . it is almost like a policing. it is almost like a society problem. you know , i've society problem. you know, i've wttreeeet— society problem. you know, i've wttreeeet ter— society problem. you know, i've witnessed far-many- t rt;cg you know, i've witnessed far many incidents witnessed far too many incidents where— witnessed far too many incidents where,_officers| where, you know, police officers are where, you know, police officers ere—uretertl are getting involved in violent ettuettore. — are getting involved in violent situations. and— are getting involved in violent situations. ' hr: situations. and rather than help the police, the public are videoing and, you know, that videoing it and, you know, that needs change. it's needs to change. but it's a generational in that we generational thing in that we need the public and all the to pubuc need the public and all the to public help support the police, help the officers day in, day out. we need the politicians to ettow— out. we need the politicians to ettow the— out. we need the politicians to allow the senior— we need the politicians to allow the senior leadership of the potte— allow the senior leadership of the pottee to— allow the senior leadership of the police to lead. they need to be the police to lead. they need to te ette— the police to lead. they need to te ette to— the police to lead. they need to be able to make— the police to lead. they need to be able to make decisions when thew— be able to make decisions when thew wert— be able to make decisions when thew wert to— be able to make decisions when they want to hire— be able to make decisions when they want to hire and fire ottteere — they want to hire and fire officers, you— they want to hire and fire officers, you know, i've worked wtth—thet- officers, you know, i've worked with _that have - officers, you know, i've worked with that have got with colleagues that have got ertmtret— with colleagues that have got criminal convictions and pereorettw— criminal convictions and pereorettw. r— criminal convictions and personally , i think that's personally, i think that's wrora — personally, i think that's wrora _wou-

personally, i think that's wrong. you know , personally, i think that's- wrong. _you know , we wrong. i think, you know, we ehoutt— wrong. i think, you know, we ehoutt te— wrong. i think, you know, we should be above— wrong. i think, you know, we should be above the law. �*ft�*rt; should be above the law. we ehoutt— should be above the law. we ehoutt-the— should be above the law. we should _the law. and,| should be above the law. we. should _the law. and, you should uphold the law. and, you know, far many, should uphold the law. and, you know, far. many, - know, i know, far too many, you know, eweteme— know, far too many, you know, eweteme heue— know, far too many, you know, systems have been changed over know, far too many, you know, systyearsiave been changed over know, far too many, you know, systyears whereten changed over know, far too many, you know, systyears where you hanged over know, far too many, you know, systyears where you havead over the years where you have tttterert— the years where you have different _who - the years where you have different who think different leaders who think ttttererttw. — different leaders who think differently, people differently, who allow people wtth— differently, who allow people with convictions— differently, who allow people with convictions join the with convictions to join the potte— with convictions to join the police ithink— with convictions to join the police think that's wrong. police. i think that's wrong. i thtrt— police. i think that's wrong. i thtrt we— police. i think that's wrong. i think we should— police. i think that's wrong. i think we should-serving. police. i think that's wrong. i think we should serving the think we should be serving the pubuc think we should be serving the public better. okay , perry, public better. okay, perry, woure— public better. okay, perry, woure terra— public better. okay, perry, woure tetra e— rt. okay, perry, you're doing a fantastic job there— you're doing a fantastic job there ot— you're doing a fantastic job there of selling— you're doing a fantastic job there of selling the police toree — there of selling the police toree rt— there of selling the police force. �*7 ehg : c ttrtcrt;h hrg force. if anybody's listening now, what would you say to them to encourage apply to be to encourage them to apply to be a ? it is such a unique a recruit? it is such a unique tot. — a recruit? it is such a unique rot. teu— a recruit? it is such a unique rot. wou wttt— a recruit? it is such a unique job. you will never, ever have the variety in policing . you the variety in policing. you will never have the satisfaction of helping people, whether that's simply be, you know, helping somebody who's lost property or , you know, helping property or, you know, helping find missing persons or even, like i say, solving crime , you like i say, solving crime, you know, arresting bad guys, you know, arresting bad guys, you know , i've say spent a lot of my know, i've say spent a lot of my career on homicide and i did everything i could with the teams that i worked with to support families that were going through the most traumatic thing. and, the reward thing. and, you know, the reward for thing. and, you know, the reward tor me— thing. and, you know, the reward tor me te— thing. and, you know, the reward tor me te trwtra— thing. and, you know, the reward for me is trying to— thing. and, you know, the reward for me is trying to get— hrg and, you know, the reward for me is trying to get, you trow.— for me is trying to get, you know,lconviction- for me is trying to get, you know, conviction for them, know, a conviction for them, trwtra—

know, a conviction for them, trying-justice- know, a conviction for them, trying _justice for- know, a conviction for them, trying justice for them, trying to get justice for them, tut— trying to get justice for them, but recognising— trying to get justice for them, but recognising that it's never, ever—e-orel ever going to be a loved one teet— ever going to be a loved one teet. art.— ever going to be a loved one back. and,-know,- ever going to be a loved one back. and, know, the variety back. and, you know, the variety of back. and, you know, the variety ot pottee — back. and, you know, the variety or pottee wort— back. and, you know, the variety of police work is— back. and, you know, the variety of police work is like no other job of police work is like no other tot tr— of police work is like no other hot hr the— of police work is like no other job in the world. _ of police work is like no other job in the world. and you get to mete— job in the world. and you get to mete euer— job in the world. and you get to mete eueh e— job in the world. and you get to make such a difference. and i woutt— make such a difference. and i would—that's- would urge anyone that's thtrttra— would urge anyone that's thinking about a change of career-joining- thinking about a change of career joining the police career or joining the police to do career or joining the police to to—otherl do so. but the biggest other prettem— do so. but the biggest other prettem-the— do so. but the biggest other problem the salary, the problem is the salary, the eeterw— problem is the salary, the eeterw tor— problem is the salary, the salary for policing needs to be hereeeet — salary for policing needs to be increased. you— salary for policing needs to be increased. /rtrc. increased. you know that is one of biggest recruitment of the biggest recruitment failures you how failures in that, you know, how do encourage the best do we encourage the best candidates, right candidates candidates, the right candidates , join police in if the , to join the police in if the salary low, you know, salary is so low, you know, police can't police officers can't go on strike like other public services organisations services and other organisations runs. so we're here to do the teet— runs. so we're here to do the teet we— runs. so we're here to do the teet we eer— runs. so we're here to do the best we can, but— so we're here to do the best we can, but that needs to best we can, but that needs to te-et— best we can, but that needs to. be-at-government be looked at by the government as be looked at by the government ee-rerrw— be looked at by the government as-perry benson- be looked at by the government as perry benson you're as well. perry benson you're tetttra— as well. perry benson you're talking-amounts- as well. perry benson you're talking amounts of common talking epic amounts of common r— talking epic amounts of common r hope— talking epic amounts of common r hope tt— talking epic amounts of common sense. c h ' sense. i hope it catches on. and by way, thank you your by the way, thank you for your service of service and enjoy the rest of your thank you for your weekend. thank you for joining on gb news. as joining us today on gb news. as you're listening joining us today on gb news. as you news listening joining us today on gb news. as younews saturday listening joining us today on gb news. as you news saturday with:ening joining us today on gb news. as you news saturday with me,g joining us today on gb news. as you news saturday with me, martin gb news saturday with me, martin daubney today's daubney still to come on today's show, the countdown the show, the countdown to the campus and the calendar campus night and the calendar has yes, europol is only has begun. yes, europol is only two weeks away. our kwasi sophie reaper will be talking us through all we need to know

about big competition. but about the big competition. but first, let's take a look the first, let's take a look at the weather marco . hello, i'm weather with marco. hello, i'm marco petagna and welcome to your latest weather update from the for the of the met office for the rest of this hold on to a this weekend, we hold on to a mixed of weather the mixed bag of weather across the uk. be sunshine , uk. there'll be some sunshine, some showers, feeling some heavy showers, but feeling pleasantly when sun pleasantly warm when the sun comes the reason for comes through. the reason for the mixed conditions is down to the mixed conditions is down to the fact we've got high pressure towards low pressure towards the east, low pressure out towards the west. that's giving a slack giving us light winds, a slack pressure gradient across the uk, but allowing those but equally allowing those showers times . showers to develop at times. heavy showers to end the day across and north—west across the west and north—west of uk. and we're continuing of the uk. and we're continuing to see showers across these northern areas we to see showers across these north through areas we to see showers across these north through the areas we to see showers across these north through the rest areas we to see showers across these north through the rest oftas we to see showers across these north through the rest of the we head through the rest of the evening the overnight evening into the overnight penod evening into the overnight period a clearer down period with a clearer skies down towards south—east and up towards the south—east and up towards the south—east and up towards of the towards the south—east and up towrsome of the towards the south—east and up towrsome low of the towards the south—east and up towrsome low cloud of the towards the south—east and up towrsome low cloud andf the towards the south—east and up towrsome low cloud and mist uk. some low cloud and mist patches. say, the best patches. but as i say, the best of weather here of the clearer weather here generally it's here, we'll generally and it's here, we'll see lowest temperatures to generally and it's here, we'll see to lowest temperatures to generally and it's here, we'll see to six est temperatures to generally and it's here, we'll see to six degrees eratures to generally and it's here, we'll see to six degrees erctthets to down to six degrees in the south—east to south—east possibly close to freezing across the north—east of where see freezing across the north—east oftouch where see freezing across the north—east oftouch of where see freezing across the north—east oftouch of frostere see freezing across the north—east oftouch of frost milder, see freezing across the north—east oftouch of frost milder, though,t a touch of frost milder, though, under cloud towards the under the cloud out towards the west. here we'll west. and it's here we'll see showers on showers from the word go on sunday. some still quite heavy, even to contend even thundery showers to contend with those showers tending

with and those showers tending to break more widely as we to break out more widely as we go sunday. go through the day on sunday. still, england still, the south—east of england holding best of the holding on to the best of the sunshine generally holding on to the best of the sunshine think generally holding on to the best of the sunshine think throughierally holding on to the best of the sunshine think through into .y dry here. i think through into the . but as say, the afternoon. but as i say, some quite downpours some quite heavy downpours developing particularly across northern we into northern ireland as we go into sunday in the sunshine sunday afternoon in the sunshine towards the south. we'll see highs of 17 to 18. locally, 19 degrees, chilly degrees, but still chilly towards north—east towards the north—east of scotland into the evening, scotland and into the evening, the tend to migrate the showers tend to migrate their way eastwards across the uk. so i think even the south—east start see south—east will start to see some developing go some showers developing as we go through night, whereas through sunday night, whereas out the west showers out towards the west the showers will to ease. we'll see will start to ease. we'll see some clearer spells, but with the that still the fact that there's still a fair around no fair amount of cloud around no issues on issues with temperatures on sunday night generally holding up the range 7 to 10 degrees up in the range 7 to 10 degrees on monday , bank holiday, monday, on monday, bank holiday, monday, of course, focus for the of course, the focus for the showers will be towards the east and england. and south—east of england. again, showers again, 1 or 2 heavy showers around some patchy rain around here. some patchy rain towards scotland, towards the north of scotland, but air with but elsewhere, air with high pressure . we should pressure dominating. we should see lot of fine and settled see a lot of fine and settled weather quite nicely the climbing quite nicely into the high hold on to high teens and we hold on to plenty fine weather across high teens and we hold on to pleibulk fine weather across high teens and we hold on to pleibulk of �*ie weather across high teens and we hold on to pleibulk of the leather across high teens and we hold on to pleibulk of the teat on across high teens and we hold on to pleibulk of the teat on tuesday the bulk of the uk on tuesday and wednesday further warm

and wednesday with further warm sunshine

to gb news radio . to gb news radio. good afternoon. this is the latest newsroom the latest from the newsroom the deadune latest from the newsroom the deadline british nationals deadline for british nationals to reach the evacuation airfield in has now passed. it in sudan has now passed. it comes as final evacuation flights out of sudan will take place later today. deputy prime minister oliver dowden will chair a cobra meeting this afternoon to discuss the security situation in khartoum ahead of the final flight , ahead of the final flight, taking off at 6 pm. uk time. so far , british forces have rescued far, british forces have rescued more than 1500 people, but hundreds have been killed and tens of thousands have fled for their lives in a power struggle between the army and the paramilitary great ormond street hospital has been granted exemptions to keep nurses working during upcoming strike action in order to ease some pressure on the service. the children's hospital expressed concerns about staffing as royal

college of nursing staff prepare to walk out in their ongoing pay dispute. rcn members will walk out from tomorrow at 8:00 in the evening until monday evening . evening until monday evening. labouris evening until monday evening. labour is promising to invest in more teachers who are specialists in their subject. if they win the next general election . it comes as labour election. it comes as labour analysis of government figures suggests that there are gaps in expert teaching provisions in state schools across england. shadow education secretary bridget phillipson says schools are scrambling to fill roles, meaning there aren't high enough standards for all children . and standards for all children. and three new photographs of the king and queen consort have been released ahead of next week's coronation. the images were taken in the palace's blue drawing room last month. one shows the couple standing side by side in front of a portrait of king george, the fifth at his coronation in 1911. another shows charles and camilla individually with the queen consort wearing the late queen's pearl drop earrings . tv online ,

pearl drop earrings. tv online, dab+ radio and on tune in. this is gb news. now it's back to . martin and thank you for that, tatiana. welcome back to gb news saturday with welcome back to gb news saturday wtth me— welcome back to gb news saturday wtth rrerttr— welcome back to gb news saturday with me, martin daubney on your tv with me, martin daubney on your tv orttre— with me, martin daubney on your tv orttre ert— with me, martin daubney on your tv online and on— with me, martin daubney on your tv online and on your digital retro.— tv online and on your digital retro. wett— tv online and on your digital radio. well with— tv online and on your digital radio. well with just two weeks to ao— radio. well with just two weeks to ao urttt— radio. well with just two weeks to go until eurovision preparations in liverpool are wett— preparations in liverpool are now well underway, the king and queer— now well underway, the king and queer utettet— now well underway, the king and queen visited the— now well underway, the king and queen visited the competition thre— queen visited the competition venue this week,— queen visited the competition venue this week, and scouse eoraetreee— venue this week, and scouse songstress sonya— venue this week, and scouse songstress sonya tries saying thet— songstress sonya tries saying thet wtth— songstress sonya tries saying thet wtth wou — songstress sonya tries saying that with you false teeth out teemet — that with you false teeth out teemet up— that with you false teeth out teamed up with— that with you false teeth out teamed up with a very special eherr— teamed up with a very special ehotr to— teamed up with a very special choir to really— teamed up with a very special choir to really get— teamed up with a very special choir to really get the party etertet— choir to really get the party etertet. eur— choir to really get the party started. our north—west of tratert— started. our north—west of england, reporter sophie reaper has england, reporter sophie reaper hee thre— england, reporter sophie reaper hee thte etow— england, reporter sophie reaper has this story live— england, reporter sophie reaper has this story live from truerpoot. — has this story live from liverpool. in- has this story live from liverpool. h has this story live from- liverpool. in just two weeks time, eurovision will be bursting onto our screens. in 1993, the city's born and

raised. sonya took to the stage as the uk's entry. raised. sonya took to the stage as the uk's entry . batus olivia as the uk's entry. batus olivia utley come in. you know , 30 utley come in. you know, 30 years later , eurovision is years later, eurovision is coming to her. i know you're originally from liverpool. what doesit originally from liverpool. what does it mean to you to have eurovision in your home city? wow, i'm just so, so proud. when we tourt— wow, i'm just so, so proud. when we tourt out— wow, i'm just so, so proud. when we found out that— wow, i'm just so, so proud. when we found out that we we'd got it here.— we found out that we we'd got it here. r— we found out that we we'd got it here. r wee— we found out that we we'd got it here. r tuet— we found out that we we'd got it here, i was just ecstatic . here, i was just ecstatic. as i say.— here, i was just ecstatic. as i eew. tm— here, i was just ecstatic. as i eew. r-m tuet— here, i was just ecstatic. as i say, i'm just unbelievably proud. it's going to be the best ttme— proud. it's going to be the best ttme euer— proud. it's going to be the best ttme euer- — proud. it's going to be the best time ever. this— proud. it's going to be the best time ever. this week,- : it's going to be the best time ever . h time ever. this week, sonya joined forces with a choir made up of refugees in order to mark a very special edition of eurovision . no matter if people eurovision. no matter if people are eurovision. no matter if people etratra— eurovision. no matter if people errarra tr— eurovision. no matter if people are singing in english- c. no matter if people are singing in english or a tttterert— are singing in english or a different language , music different language, music connects people together . ' hr: connects people together. and i just connects people together. and i tuet thtrt— connects people together. and i ruet thtrt tte— connects people together. and i just think it's going to be a really, really a celebration of everybody coming together and through through music, you know , united by music. that's the

teattre— , united by music. that's the teattre ot— , united by music. that's the tagline of this— , united by music. that's the tagline of this year's- tagline of this year's eurovision- tagline of this year's eurovision song contest as it's hoetet— eurovision song contest as it's hoetet by— eurovision song contest as it's hoetet by the— eurovision song contest as it's hosted by the united kingdom on tehett— hosted by the united kingdom on tehett ot— hosted by the united kingdom on behalf of last— hosted by the united kingdom on behalf of last year's winners , behalf of last year's winners, there.— behalf of last year's winners, ukraine. now,— behalf of last year's winners, ukraine. now, this choir teeturee— ukraine. now, this choir features several ukrainian retuaeee— features several ukrainian retuaeee .— features several ukrainian refugees . they may have been refugees. they may have been roreet— refugees. they may have been toreet to— refugees. they may have been forced to flee— refugees. they may have been forced to flee the— refugees. they may have been forced to flee the conflict in thet— forced to flee the conflict in their homeland— forced to flee the conflict in their homeland ,_ forced to flee the conflict in their homeland , but they still their homeland, but they still heue— their homeland, but they still heue e— their homeland, but they still have a message— their homeland, but they still have a message of hope that they wert— have a message of hope that they wert to— have a message of hope that they wert to epreet— have a message of hope that they want to spread love.— have a message of hope that they want to spread love. choir eototet— want to spread love. choir soloist tatiana— want to spread love. choir soloist tatiana nana was a vocal eoeeh— soloist tatiana nana was a vocal eoeeh teet— soloist tatiana nana was a vocal eoeeh teet tr— soloist tatiana nana was a vocal coach back in ukraine. but when her towr— coach back in ukraine. but when her towr wee— coach back in ukraine. but when her town was hit— coach back in ukraine. but when her town was hit by russian roetete— her town was hit by russian roetete ehe— her town was hit by russian rockets, she was— her town was hit by russian rockets, she was forced to flee. i rockets, she was forced to flee. r wee— rockets, she was forced to flee. r verv— rockets, she was forced to flee. i was very afraid— rockets, she was forced to flee. i was very afraid .— rockets, she was forced to flee. i was very afraid . i— rockets, she was forced to flee. i was very afraid . i have- rockets, she was forced to flee. i was very afraid. i have two children and my reaction was to run. i'm really happy that we did such a choice because for this moment that it's almost a yean this moment that it's almost a year, i'm in uk, everything is perfect , in my case year, i'm in uk, everything is perfect, in my case in my family. so yeah, since arriving in the uk, music has helped tatiana restore some normality back into her life. not a lot of music was in my life this year,

but i hope. and now i have inspiration to improve this yeah inspiration to improve this year. you see, universe shows me that if i'm here and if i'm singing, it's what i need to do. it's for me, funded by the national lottery, the choir first started back in 2018 when it brings together young refugees and asylum seekers from all over the uk. i think music is all over the uk. i think music he e— all over the uk. i think music he e aeet— all over the uk. i think music is a great healer. _ all over the uk. i think music is a great healer. i- i think music is a great healer. c is a great healer. i think it's a great leveller and most of all it's a great communication tool. you know, whether they're from ukraine or whether they're from sudan or whether from afghanistan , you can use music afghanistan, you can use music to communicate . and that's what to communicate. and that's what this to communicate. and that's what thte veere— to communicate. and that's what this year's eurovision _ to communicate. and that's what this year's eurovision is- rt.rtrth h t and that's what this year's eurovision is all etout— this year's eurovision is all etout .— this year's eurovision is all about. bringing this year's eurovision is all about . bringing people together about. bringing people together throuah— about. bringing people together throuah muet— about. bringing people together through music. sofia ipp gb news thert— through music. sofia ipp gb news thert wou— through music. sofia ipp gb news thert wou tor— through music. sofia ipp gb news thank you for that. sofia. i'm rephra— thank you for that. sofia. i'm hoping we'll get more than null point now. they've all got over brexit because we were so nice

in the ukraine. okay plenty of you have been in touch over our big the on the big topics of the day on the scarborough seagulls, glenn says , you pommies make me laugh , , you pommies make me laugh, come to australia and deal with the plovers and plovers. you've always got something to whinge about, you? well, all about, haven't you? well, we all called the whingeing poms, and that's without that's not without good justification. seagulls, justification. but seagulls, they're a menace. says , they're a menace. geoff says, let us not forget which country was instrumental in ending slavery . let us also not forget slavery. let us also not forget that if we need to pay reparations for to us for the actions of the saxons, the germans, the romans, the vikings, the nordic countries , vikings, the nordic countries, the normans, french, that's true, of course . how far do we true, of course. how far do we go back? where does this madness end? we pay every debt end? geoff? do we pay every debt of history on rishi sunak? mike has the following comment. he says rishi sunak became prime minister by way of a coup . now minister by way of a coup. now he's showing true self. he's he's showing his true self. he's rolled back on the eu , meddling rolled back on the eu, meddling in our affairs. he's rolled back on taming the echr and he is falling and he's failing with the boats. great show. thank you

very much, mike. appreciate it. on microsoft's attempt to take over of blizzard , chris says over of blizzard, chris says microsoft is buying up video game companies because it cannot compete with sony's exclusive first party games. us competition is what the industry needs, and it's already in short supply, giving microsoft the keys to become hegemon will give them the freedom to do what they they do in other areas of their business. milk the console gamer dry strong words . we'll keep dry strong words. we'll keep your views coming in and please don't forget do subscribe to our youtube channel. of course, we're at gb news. you're watching and listening to gb news saturday with me, martin daubney. lots more coming up. still on the rest of today's show. during pmqs this week, rishi has rejected fresh rishi sunak has rejected fresh calls the uk to pay slavery calls for the uk to pay slavery reparations to our former colonies, raising the question again on whether we should be paying again on whether we should be paying slavery reparations. all of that after these messages

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britain is watching. welcome back to gb news— h t hrg welcome back to gb news saturday with rrerttr— back to gb news saturday with me, martin daubney on your tv orttre— me, martin daubney on your tv orttre ert— me, martin daubney on your tv online and your— me, martin daubney on your tv online and your digital radio on the thet— online and your digital radio on the final furlong_ online and your digital radio on the final furlong of the show. nowt_ the final furlong of the show. how. aeet— the final furlong of the show. now, great debate coming up, teeuee— now, great debate coming up, because during— now, great debate coming up, because during pmqs this week, tett— because during pmqs this week, bell ribeiro—addy_ because during pmqs this week, bell ribeiro—addy labour mp for stretum— bell ribeiro—addy labour mp for stratum called— bell ribeiro—addy labour mp for stratum called on— bell ribeiro—addy labour mp for stratum called on the government to epotoatee— stratum called on the government to epotoatee tor— stratum called on the government to apologise for the— stratum called on the government to apologise for the uk's htetorw— to apologise for the uk's htetorw ot— to apologise for the uk's history of slavery and colonialism - history of slavery and colonialism and to pay slavery reperettore— colonialism and to pay slavery reparations as— colonialism and to pay slavery reparations as rishi sunak nato eetrowtetaet— reparations as rishi sunak nato eetrowtetaet .— reparations as rishi sunak nato acknowledged , of— reparations as rishi sunak nato acknowledged , of the wealth that acknowledged, of the wealth that has acknowledged, of the wealth that hee teer— acknowledged, of the wealth that has been amassed— acknowledged, of the wealth that has been amassed . t has been amassed. all the facts thet— has been amassed. all the facts that our country took out the largest loan ever has to pay off the slave owners and not the enslave . and so i want to ask enslave. and so i want to ask the prime minister today if he will do what bernie grant axed all those years ago. what i have eetet— all those years ago. what i have eetet ert— all those years ago. what i have asked and what— flute”; 3 what i have asked and what countless others heue— asked and what countless others heue eetet— asked and what countless others have asked since— asked and what countless others have asked since and offer a tutt— have asked since and offer a tutt ert— have asked since and offer a full and meaningful apology for our full and meaningful apology for eourtrw-e— full and meaningful apology for our country's role _ full and meaningful apology for our country's role in slavery ert— our country's role in slavery and colonialism— our country's role in slavery and colonialism and commit to reperetorw— and colonialism and commit to reparatory justice. ' hr: and colonialism and commit to reparatory justice. hr: chrt;”rt; reparatory justice. and there we heue— reparatory justice. and there we heue rt. wett— reparatory justice. and there we have it. well, rishi— reparatory justice. hr: chrt;”rt; c well, rishi sunak have it. well, rishi sunak rev-eetet— have it. well, rishi sunak rejected the _ have it. well, rishi sunak rejected the calls- c well, rishi sunak rejected the calls for reparations,- rejected the calls for reparations, saying the uk is an tretuetue— reparations, saying the uk is an inclusive and— reparations, saying the uk is an inclusive and tolerant society

ert— inclusive and tolerant society ert trwrra— inclusive and tolerant society ert trwrra to— inclusive and tolerant society and trying to unpick our history is and trying to unpick our history he rot— and trying to unpick our history he rot the— and trying to unpick our history is not the right— and trying to unpick our history is not the right way forward . so is not the right way forward. so whet— is not the right way forward. so whet to— is not the right way forward. so whet to wou— is not the right way forward. so what do you think? should the uk pay what do you think? should the uk pew eteuerw— what do you think? should the uk pay slavery reparations ? well, pay slavery reparations? well, tetr— pay slavery reparations? well, totr me— pay slavery reparations? well, rotr me ow— pay slavery reparations? well, rotr me te— pay slavery reparations? well, join me now is albie amankona, the co—founder_ join me now is albie amankona, the co—founder of— join me now is albie amankona, the co—founder of conservative aaetret— the co—founder of conservative against racism _ the co—founder of conservative against racism for equality. attte— against racism for equality. albie, thanks— against racism for equality. albie, thanks for joining us totew— albie, thanks for joining us totew .— albie, thanks for joining us totew . so— albie, thanks for joining us today . so rishi— albie, thanks for joining us today . so rishi sunak rejected today. so rishi sunak rejected oette— today. so rishi sunak rejected eette tor— today. so rishi sunak rejected calls for payouts. _ today. so rishi sunak rejected calls for payouts. is that the rtaht— calls for payouts. is that the rtaht thtra— calls for payouts. is that the rtaht thtra to— calls for payouts. is that the right thing to do? yes, i think he ereweret— right thing to do? yes, i think he answered the— right thing to do? yes, i think he answered the question quite wett— he answered the question quite wett. r— he answered the question quite wett. r thtrt— he answered the question quite well. i think the— he answered the question quite well. i think the question was a weetet— well. i think the question was a wasted question.— well. i think the question was a wasted question. there are 650 peopte— wasted question. there are 650 peopte thet— wasted question. there are 650 peopte thet we— wasted question. there are 650 people that we send to parliament— people that we send to parliament on our behalf and thew— parliament on our behalf and thew ee— parliament on our behalf and thew the— parliament on our behalf and they are the only— parliament on our behalf and they are the only people who can ask they are the only people who can eet aueettore— they are the only people who can ask questions at— they are the only people who can ask questions at prime minister's— ask questions at prime minister's questions. this minister's questions. and this one completely wasted . i one was completely wasted. i would rather one was completely wasted. i would-rather politiciansi would much rather politicians toeuetra— would much rather politicians were focusing closing the were focusing on closing the ttepertttee— were focusing on closing the disparities that— were focusing on closing the disparities that still exist totew— disparities that still exist today rather— disparities that still exist today rather than harking on etout— today rather than harking on etout-peet— today rather than harking on etout-peet .— today rather than harking on about past . another concern about the past. another concern meter— about the past. another concern meter eteuerw— about the past. another concern modern slavery. yeah, you're rtaht. — modern slavery. yeah, you're rtaht. rert— modern slavery. yeah, you're right. isn't it?— modern slavery. yeah, you're right. isn't it? doesn't really fit right. isn't it? doesn't really trt the— right. isn't it? doesn't really fit the script,— right. isn't it? doesn't really fit the script, does it ? and the fit the script, does it? and the teet— fit the script, does it? and the teet thet— fit the script, does it? and the teet thet tte— fit the script, does it? and the fact that it's happening mostly in fact that it's happening mostly tr atrtee— fact that it's happening mostly in africa and— fact that it's happening mostly in africa and white in africa and it's not white peopte— in africa and it's not white peopte-the- in africa and it's not white people the slave in africa and it's not white- people _the slave keepers people who are the slave keepers or-masters. i've- people who are the slave keepers or-masters. i've got- people who are the slave keepers or masters. i've got a or the slave masters. i've got a aueettor— or the slave masters. i've got a aueettorlwou— or the slave masters. i've got a question you, though. a lot question for you, though. a lot of question for you, though. a lot or peopte— question for you, though. a lot of people-labour- question for you, though. a lot of people labour side of of people in the labour side of the home— of people in the labour side of the rouee-to— of people in the labour side of the house to repeating the house seem to be repeating the— the house seem to be repeating thte reeeae— the house seem to be repeating thte meeeae .— the house seem to be repeating this message . in— the house seem to be repeating this message . in labour mp

this message. in fact, labour mp temte— this message. in fact, labour mp terrte orert— this message. in fact, labour mp bernie grant founded the reparations— bernie grant founded the reparations asians movement. do you reparations asians movement. do wou thtrt— reparations asians movement. do wou thtrt thet— reparations asians movement. do you think that the— reparations asians movement. do you think that the continuing preeeure tor— you think that the continuing pressure for the— you think that the continuing pressure for the uk to pay enormous sums- pressure for the uk to pay enormous sums of money could be trttttor— enormous sums of money could be trttttor ot— enormous sums of money could be trillion of pounds?— enormous sums of money could be trillion of pounds? albie will the— trillion of pounds? albie will thte teoe— trillion of pounds? albie will this become part of the labour mertteeto— this become part of the labour manifesto moving— this become part of the labour manifesto moving forward ? i'd be manifesto moving forward? i'd be verv— manifesto moving forward? i'd be uerw eurprteet— manifesto moving forward? i'd be uerw eurprreet to— manifesto moving forward? i'd be very surprised to see it become part— very surprised to see it become pert ot— very surprised to see it become pert ot the— very surprised to see it become part of the labour— very surprised to see it become part of the labour manifesto. i thtrt— part of the labour manifesto. i thtrt thtrt— part of the labour manifesto. i think think it's— part of the labour manifesto. i think think it's important to say— think think it's important to eew thet— think think it's important to eew thet tte— think think it's important to say that it's not— think think it's important to say that it's not actually tetour— say that it's not actually labour policy— say that it's not actually labour policy at the moment and i labour policy at the moment and r tor-t— labour policy at the moment and r tor-t thtrt— labour policy at the moment and i don't think it— labour policy at the moment and i don't think it is— labour policy at the moment and i don't think it is something whteh— i don't think it is something whteh-uerw- i don't think it is something which very popular i don't think it is something- which _very popular with i don't think it is something whirpublic. very popular with i don't think it is something whirpublic. 'hr: 'ery popular with i don't think it is something whirpublic. ' hr: 'eryrt.rtrc. ”trrt;ar with i don't think it is something whirpublic. hr: 'eryrt.rtrc.”t; ”with the public. and of course if labour the next labour wants to win the next general they're general election, they're going to be putting to have to be putting out policies popular policies which are popular and i can't in these these can't see in these in these difficult the of difficult times the idea of paying difficult times the idea of paying trillions of pounds to foreign countries as something which is going to resonate with the public. btec the british public. btec it's worth potrtrra— the british public. btec it's worth pointing out,- c rt. btec it's worth pointing out, albie that the-government- worth pointing out, albie that the-government ,- worth pointing out, albie that the government , the treasury the uk government, the treasury in the uk government, the treasury tr reor— the uk government, the treasury tr rtet pett— the uk government, the treasury in 1807 paid £20— the uk government, the treasury in 1807 paid £20 million. that's etout— in 1807 paid £20 million. that's etout teoe— in 1807 paid £20 million. that's about £300 billion— in 1807 paid £20 million. that's about £300 billion in today's morew— about £300 billion in today's morew tr— about £300 billion in today's money in reparations to 300 temtttee— money in reparations to 300 families who— money in reparations to 300 families who lost their plantations— families who lost their plantations .- families who lost their plantations . it took until 2015 plantations. it took until 2015 to pay— plantations. it took until 2015 to pew ott— plantations. it took until 2015 to pay off those— plantations. it took until 2015 to pay off those loans. we're

eurrerttw— to pay off those loans. we're eurrerttw te— to pay off those loans. we're currently £2 trillion in debt therte— currently £2 trillion in debt therte to— currently £2 trillion in debt thanks to lockdowns of the pertemte. — thanks to lockdowns of the pandemic. the— thanks to lockdowns of the pandemic. the uk simply cannot ettort— pandemic. the uk simply cannot ettort the— pandemic. the uk simply cannot afford the astronomical sums truotuet— afford the astronomical sums truotuet tr— afford the astronomical sums involved in slavery reparations. cer— involved in slavery reparations. cer wee — involved in slavery reparations. cer wet to.— involved in slavery reparations. can we? no. the— involved in slavery reparations. can we? no. the uk- involved in slavery reparations. can we? trtr can we? no. the uk absolutely can't afford it, and the uk plays a leading role when it comes to international development around the world. and in many ways that that could be and in many ways that that could te eee— and in many ways that that could be seen as as as— and in many ways that that could be seen as as as as— and in many ways that that could be seen as as as as a way to teuetop— be seen as as as as a way to teuetop theee — be seen as as as as a way to develop these countries, which of course suffered _ develop these countries, which of course suffered as a result of course suffered as a result of colonialism.— of course suffered as a result of colonialism. you know, it was a of colonialism. you know, it was e verv— of colonialism. you know, it was ewew trutet— of colonialism. you know, it was a very brutal regime that trttetr— a very brutal regime that britain had— a very brutal regime that britain had in— a very brutal regime that britain had in the past. but the pret— britain had in the past. but the peet ueue— britain had in the past. but the past we've moved on since the past. and this country is a very inclusive country and we do a lot of good in the world. why do you think it is, though?- g: h : why do you think it is, though? albie thet— you think it is, though? albie thet we— you think it is, though? albie that we don't— you think it is, though? albie that we don't ever hear, eertetrtw— that we don't ever hear, certainly from - that we don't ever hear, certainly from from the from the left certainly from from the from the tett or— certainly from from the from the tett or the— certainly from from the from the left or the liberal— certainly from from the from the left or the liberal side of the houee— left or the liberal side of the houee ot— left or the liberal side of the house of britain's enormous truotuemert— house of britain's enormous involvement in— house of britain's enormous involvement in ending the slave trete— involvement in ending the slave trete e — involvement in ending the slave trete e thet— involvement in ending the slave trade ? that is— involvement in ending the slave trade ? that is a— involvement in ending the slave trade ? that is a very- involvement in ending the slave trade ? g: trade? that is a very good question. britain, of course, was one of the first countries to end the slave trade you mentioned before spent millions of pounds ending the slave

trade. we did an amazing thing , trade. we did an amazing thing, but trade. we did an amazing thing, tut we— trade. we did an amazing thing, tut we ttt— trade. we did an amazing thing, but we did also— trade. we did an amazing thing, but we did also at— : we did an amazing thing, but we did also at the same time heue— but we did also at the same time heue the— but we did also at the same time have the biggest— but we did also at the same time have the biggest empire in the wortt. — have the biggest empire in the wortt. art— have the biggest empire in the world. and we— have the biggest empire in the world. and we were- have the biggest empire in the world. hr: world. and we were probably one of the biggest slave in countries in the world. so yes, we have done the world countries in the world. so yes, weterms done the world countries in the world. so yes, weterms of ne the world countries in the world. so yes, weterms of ending the world countries in the world. so yes, weterms of ending slavery, vorld countries in the world. so yes, weterms of ending slavery, buti in terms of ending slavery, but that doesn't take away from the brutality is this brutality of empire. is this about payments or is it about something else? is it about emeertra— something else? is it about emeerrra the— hrg 7 is it about smearing the conservative party as smearing the conservative party ee ertteeetw— smearing the conservative party as endlessly racist, systemic retet— as endlessly racist, systemic reetet ert— as endlessly racist, systemic racist and continually apologise for racist and continually apologise tor the— racist and continually apologise for the aberrations of british htetorw— for the aberrations of british htetorw e— for the aberrations of british htetorw e r— for the aberrations of british history .7 i think— for the aberrations of british history ? i think it was a history? i think it was a mteaurtet— history? i think it was a misguided question . 3h history? i think it was a— misguided question . rishi sunak misguided question. rishi sunak was clearly not going to commit to paying reparations at prime minister's questions on wednesday. it was a silly question which shouldn't have been asked. i have much been asked. i would have much rather that the mp in question to have asked about closing the racial which still racial disparities which still exist in society today . okay. exist in society today. okay. joining us exist in society today. okay. joining ue row— exist in society today. okay. joining us now is— rt;;t

question to you. it took until pau— question to you. it took until zort tor— question to you. it took until zort tor the— question to you. it took until 2015 for the uk— question to you. it took until 2015 for the uk to pay off a preutoue— 2015 for the uk to pay off a previous debt— 2015 for the uk to pay off a previous debt in— 2015 for the uk to pay off a previous debt in reparations . we previous debt in reparations. we pett— previous debt in reparations. we pert tr— previous debt in reparations. we pert tr totew-e— previous debt in reparations. we paid in today's money £300 tttttor— paid in today's money £300 tttttor tr— paid in today's money £300 billion in 1807— paid in today's money £300 billion in 1807 ,_ paid in today's money £300 billion in 1807 , with £2 billion billion in 1807, with £2 billion in billion in 1807, with £2 billion tr tett. — billion in 1807, with £2 billion tr tett. ae— billion in 1807, with £2 billion tr tett. ae e— billion in 1807, with £2 billion in debt. as a nation already , in debt. as a nation already, the— in debt. as a nation already, the etete— in debt. as a nation already, the scale of— in debt. as a nation already, the scale of reparations rowetewe— the scale of reparations nowadays would roll into the trttttore— nowadays would roll into the trillions of— nowadays would roll into the trillions of pounds. nowadays would roll into the trillions of pounds . why would trillions of pounds. why would erwtotw— trillions of pounds. why would anybody suppon— trillions of pounds. why would anybody support a policy that woutt— anybody support a policy that would bankrupt— anybody support a policy that would bankrupt the nation ? would bankrupt the nation? so tret— would bankrupt the nation? so ttret ett— would bankrupt the nation? so ttret ett. r— would bankrupt the nation? so first off, i think— would bankrupt the nation? so first off, i think that— would bankrupt the nation? so first off, i think that you- first off, i think that you might be looking at reparations actions as being a way to totally resolve the impact of empire. that's never going to be possible, not just financial , possible, not just financial, but also emotionally and morally. right? so then the question is , what do we do when question is, what do we do when it comes to reparations? so by a calculation, if you were to say if, say, jamaica was one of the biggest slave colonies under the british, and to completely eradicate all of their debt, would work out to about 8% of the yearly costs of brexit in the yearly costs of brexit in the uk . so it's not a huge

the uk. so it's not a huge amount to eradicate debt in a country which didn't get off. we'll get off to got off to an extremely bad start. but the other thing is that it when we look at british standards for reparations, so britain is not foreign to paying reparations , foreign to paying reparations, like you mentioned to previous slave owners, but it's also not foreign to overlook paying reparations. for example , which reparations. for example, which were paid to the victims of the holocaust and to israel . and holocaust and to israel. and also it's not foreign to receiving them. it received about 10 billion from from germany after world war i and world war ii. so the question is rather than do we pay reparations, the question is, if so many people have received reparations from the british, why doesn't jamaica or the west indies? and because it fits the same category of losses. so that's the question that i would like to propose . and then you like to propose. and then you might better my understanding of your well, i would your perspective. well, i would simply that why on earth simply counter that why on earth is it britain's job to pay off

the national debt of jamaica today, pay for something that was done to centuries ago? the people paying was done to centuries ago? the peopte-pewtralthtei people who'd be paying for this .—woutt- people who'd be paying for this .—woutt te| , by the way, elliot, would be trttteh— , by the way, elliot, would be british taxpayers. _ , by the way, elliot, would be british taxpayers. there's no meat— british taxpayers. there's no meat morew— british taxpayers. there's no magic money tree. so any paying off magic money tree. so any paying ott ot— magic money tree. so any paying off of national— magic money tree. so any paying off of national debts or wheteuer— off of national debts or whatever it— off of national debts or whatever it is- off of national debts or whatever it is to a foreign retor— whatever it is to a foreign nation would— whatever it is to a foreign nation would mean every single trttteh— nation would mean every single british taxpayer— nation would mean every single british taxpayer paying the vast merorttw— british taxpayer paying the vast merorrtw ot— british taxpayer paying the vast majority of whom, if any at all, het— majority of whom, if any at all, het-threet— majority of whom, if any at all, had direct involvement in had any direct involvement in the eteue— had any direct involvement in the slave trade— had any direct involvement in the slave trade that that that's the slave trade that that that's the misconception when you look at the misconception when you look et the— the misconception when you look et the paying— the misconception when you look et the paying ot— the misconception when you look at the paying of reparations , at the paying of reparations, you— at the paying of reparations, wou thtrt— at the paying of reparations, wou thtrt ot— at the paying of reparations, you think oflas- at the paying of reparations, you think of as a government you think of it as a government or e peopte— you think of it as a government peopte paying— you think of it as a government or a people paying another or a people paying to another peopte— or a people paying to another peopte tr— or a people paying to another people in reality,— or a people paying to another people in reality, what we do as a people in reality, what we do as e-te— people in reality, what we do as e-teipereorttw- people in reality, what we do as a-is.personify the. a people is we personify the eourtrw— a people is we personify the eourtrw thet— a people is we personify the country that we— a people is we personify the country that we live in. so hrttetr— country that we live in. so hrttetr hee— country that we live in. so britain has a— country that we live in. so britain has a past,- country that we live in. so britain has a past, present and future . we understand the moral future. we understand the moral debt of the country, which is why, give thanks why, for example, we give thanks for those individuals who have fallen have fallen soldiers who have sacrificed during sacrificed their lives during world world war ii. sacrificed their lives during worlwhen world war ii. sacrificed their lives during worlwhen we world war ii. sacrificed their lives during worlwhen we look orld war ii. sacrificed their lives during worlwhen we look atd war ii. sacrificed their lives during worlwhen we look at reparations and when we look at reparations , it is one nation paying to another . so , it is one nation paying to another. so and you could be saying that it's paying for the economic the human losses. so i don't think that it's as simplistic as you might say, as

one person paying another. it certainly wasn't the case after world war ii and world war i. okay. albie i'd like to quickly allow you to respond to what elliot's just said . look, i'm elliot's just said. look, i'm just not really sure what any thing that elliot has just said does to help people who are suffering from the impact of racial disparities in the united kingdom today. that is what the aouerrmert— kingdom today. that is what the government should— kingdom today. that is what the government should be- g: : that is what the government should be focussed on. government should be focussed rt— government should be focussed rt ehoutt— government should be focussed on. it should be— government should be focussed on. it should be focussed on eewtra— on. it should be focussed on eotutra the— on. it should be focussed on solving the problems for the peopte— solving the problems for the peopte ot— solving the problems for the people of britain and not the peopte— people of britain and not the peopte etreet— people of britain and not the people abroad. and i would much rether—mouetl people abroad. and i would much rather—moved onj rather the conversation moved on to how— rather the conversation moved on to how we— rather the conversation moved on to how we eer— rather the conversation moved on to how we can solve— rather the conversation moved on to how we can solve the racial ttepertttee— to how we can solve the racial disparities that— to how we can solve the racial disparities that we see in eoetetw— disparities that we see in society today— disparities that we see in society today rather than herttra— society today rather than harking-the- society today rather than harking the past society today rather than - harking-the past and harking back to the past and eetttra— harking back to the past and calling reparations, which calling for reparations, which are never-be- calling for reparations, which are never be paid. are never going to be paid. otew— are never going to be paid. otew .— are never going to be paid. otew . attte— are never going to be paid. okay . albie amankona- are never going to be paid. okay . albie amankona and eddie okay. albie amankona and eddie rac , thank you for joining us rac, thank you for joining us today. both sides of the debate there fairly squarely put there fairly and squarely put across. a great bank across. have a great bank houday across. have a great bank holiday . okay. next holiday weekend. okay. next story the king's ancestors story now, the king's ancestors own slaves, according to new research, the story rolls on. archive have revealed archive documents have revealed that direct ancestors of king charles and the royal family

bought and enslaved people on tobacco plantations in virginia. joining me now is royal broadcaster and commentator rafe heydel—mankoo ralph . we just had heydel—mankoo ralph. we just had a debate about reparations for the royal family now been tangled into this, including the king. to be taking this king. he seems to be taking this quite seriously. think quite seriously. do you think that's a route he may well go down? important to down? well, it's important to note that his majesty has never apologised for slavery . he has apologised for slavery. he has expressed his regret.- apologised for slavery. he has expressed his regret. we- g : he has expressed his regret. we can all epreee— expressed his regret. we can all express our regret,— expressed his regret. we can all express our regret, but he's ttte— express our regret, but he's ttte mueh— express our regret, but he's like much like— express our regret, but he's like much like rishi sunak reeerttw— like much like rishi sunak recently also _ like much like rishi sunak recently also hasn't apologised . apotoaree— recently also hasn't apologised . apologies achieve nothing . . apologies achieve nothing. they— . apologies achieve nothing. thew wttt— . apologies achieve nothing. they will never— . apologies achieve nothing. they will never actually settle the reeue— they will never actually settle the issue and— they will never actually settle the issue and most importantly, thew— the issue and most importantly, thew wttt— the issue and most importantly, they will never— the issue and most importantly, they will never silence those who— they will never silence those who mete — they will never silence those who make the— they will never silence those who make the loudest noise about all who make the loudest noise about ett ot— who make the loudest noise about ett ot the— who make the loudest noise about all of this. all— who make the loudest noise about all of this. all that— who make the loudest noise about all of this. all that it will do is embolden— all of this. all that it will do is embolden them and set them on the petr— is embolden them and set them on the peth to— is embolden them and set them on the path to reparations and what we heue— the path to reparations and what we heue here.— the path to reparations and what we have here, of— the path to reparations and what we have here, of course, is a wortertuttw— we have here, of course, is a wonderfully rubbish article from the hem — wonderfully rubbish article from the tom the— wonderfully rubbish article from the from the guardian proving thet.— the from the guardian proving thet. wou— the from the guardian proving thet. wou trow.— the from the guardian proving that, you know, oh gosh, can you tmeatre— that, you know, oh gosh, can you tmeatre tr— that, you know, oh gosh, can you imagine in 1686,— that, you know, oh gosh, can you imagine in 1686, the king has an eeto who— imagine in 1686, the king has an ancestor who owned slaves? well, eetuettw— ancestor who owned slaves? well, eetuettw .— ancestor who owned slaves? well, eetuettw . toot.— ancestor who owned slaves? well, actually , look, this— ancestor who owned slaves? well, actually , look, this is an actually, look, this is an extremetw— actually, look, this is an extremely obscure person. edward

tetteue— extremely obscure person. edward rerteue. we— extremely obscure person. edward rerteue. we ett— extremely obscure person. edward porteus. we all have in 1686, all porteus. we all have in 1686, ett ot— porteus. we all have in 1686, ett ot ue— porteus. we all have in 1686, all of us had— porteus. we all have in 1686, all of us had around 2000 ancestor was— all of us had around 2000 ancestor was alive . we have four ancestor was alive. we have four arertpererte— ancestor was alive. we have four grandparents, eight great grand pererte— grandparents, eight great grand pererte reet— grandparents, eight great grand parents, 1632 if— grandparents, eight great grand parents, 1632 if you go back 12 aererettore— parents, 1632 if you go back 12 generations, that's 2000 people. art— generations, that's 2000 people. art mw— generations, that's 2000 people. art mw aoeh— generations, that's 2000 people. art mw aoeh .— generations, that's 2000 people. art mw aoeh . tte— generations, that's 2000 people. and my gosh , it's quite and my gosh, it's quite impressive— and my gosh, it's quite impressive that only 1 or 2 of thoee— impressive that only 1 or 2 of thoee zooo— impressive that only 1 or 2 of those 2000 end— impressive that only 1 or 2 of those 2000 end up actually heutra— those 2000 end up actually having owned— those 2000 end up actually having owned slaves. i mean, i wouttr-t— having owned slaves. i mean, i wouttr-t te— having owned slaves. i mean, i wouldn't be surprised if many of thoee— wouldn't be surprised if many of those ancestors— wouldn't be surprised if many of those ancestors also burned wttehee— those ancestors also burned wttehee. to— those ancestors also burned witches. do we— those ancestors also burned witches. do we want to give reperettore— witches. do we want to give reparations to _ witches. do we want to give reparations to those people? and the turte— reparations to those people? and the autte e— reparations to those people? and the aurte e tew— reparations to those people? and the quite a few rotters in the rowet— the quite a few rotters in the rowet ttre— the quite a few rotters in the royal line, king— the quite a few rotters in the royal line, king henry, the earth— royal line, king henry, the eighth killed— royal line, king henry, the eighth killed two of his wives. ehoutt— eighth killed two of his wives. shoutt we— eighth killed two of his wives. should we find— eighth killed two of his wives. should we find the descendants or the— should we find the descendants or the relations— should we find the descendants or the relations of— should we find the descendants or the relations of anne boleyn ert— or the relations of anne boleyn and catherine— or the relations of anne boleyn and catherine howard and pay reperettore— and catherine howard and pay reparations to— and catherine howard and pay reparations to them? it's a eomptete— reparations to them? it's a complete nonsense. i would have a complete nonsense. i would have e tot— complete nonsense. i would have e tot moe— complete nonsense. i would have e tot ttme— complete nonsense. i would have a lot more time for— complete nonsense. i would have a lot more time for those people who— a lot more time for those people who ee— a lot more time for those people who are calling— a lot more time for those people who are calling for— a lot more time for those people who are calling for reparations ert— who are calling for reparations ert epotoatee— who are calling for reparations and apologies if— who are calling for reparations and apologies if they actually het— and apologies if they actually het e— and apologies if they actually het e etert— and apologies if they actually had a stand about modern slavery today— had a stand about modern slavery iodayr teeuee— had a stand about modern slavery today, because of— had a stand about modern slavery today, because of course we know trom— today, because of course we know tom the— today, because of course we know from the international labour oraerreettor— from the international labour organisation that seven in every roee— organisation that seven in every 1000 africans— organisation that seven in every 1000 africans today is a slave . 1000 africans today is a slave. thet-e— 1000 africans today is a slave. thet-e ro— 1000 africans today is a slave. that's 10 million— 1000 africans today is a slave. that's 10 million people. hetteter— that's 10 million people. pakistan is— that's 10 million people. pakistan is the capital of atotet— pakistan is the capital of global slavery-

pakistan is the capital of global slavery . so where are the global slavery. so where are the auertter— global slavery. so where are the auertter ert— global slavery. so where are the guardian and all— global slavery. so where are the guardian and all the other loudmouths_ guardian and all the other loudmouths on— guardian and all the other loudmouths on this issue? where are loudmouths on this issue? where whw— loudmouths on this issue? where whw eert— loudmouths on this issue? where are why aren't they— loudmouths on this issue? where are why aren't they outside the rtah— are why aren't they outside the high commissions— are why aren't they outside the high commissions of nigeria or hetteter— high commissions of nigeria or pakistan, outside— high commissions of nigeria or pakistan, outside the embassies of pakistan, outside the embassies ot wtaer— pakistan, outside the embassies ot wtaer or— pakistan, outside the embassies of niger or chad— pakistan, outside the embassies of niger or chad or mali or euter— of niger or chad or mali or suter e— of niger or chad or mali or sudan ? their— of niger or chad or mali or sudan ? their silence on that sudan? their silence on that potrt— sudan? their silence on that potrt te— sudan? their silence on that point is deafening, and it pouee— point is deafening, and it pouee thet— point is deafening, and it proves that they don't really etout— proves that they don't really care about slavery one jot. what thew— care about slavery one jot. what thew wert— care about slavery one jot. what thew wert to— care about slavery one jot. what thew wert to to— care about slavery one jot. what they want to do is— care about slavery one jot. what they want to do is they want to urtemre— they want to do is they want to undermine britain, undermine our tretttuttore— undermine britain, undermine our institutions and— undermine britain, undermine our institutions and undermine the weet— institutions and undermine the weer-wou— institutions and undermine the west.-you never- institutions and undermine the west. you never also hear west. and you never also hear erwore— west. and you never also hear erorew eettra— west. and you never also hear anyone asking for— west. and you never also hear anyone asking for those african reatore— anyone asking for those african reatore to— anyone asking for those african regions to actually pay reparations— regions to actually pay reparations for their part in the— reparations for their part in the eteue— reparations for their part in the slave trade— reparations for their part in the slave trade because there were more africans held in torteae— were more africans held in torteae tr— were more africans held in bondage in africa than ever eroeeet— bondage in africa than ever crossed over the— bondage in africa than ever crossed over the atlantic . and crossed over the atlantic. and wher— crossed over the atlantic. and when britain _ crossed over the atlantic. and when britain abolished the slave trete— when britain abolished the slave trete atrteer. — when britain abolished the slave trade african, many africans were protesting— trade african, many africans were protesting and opposing the etottttor— were protesting and opposing the etottttor ot— were protesting and opposing the abolition of the— were protesting and opposing the abolition of the slave trade teeuee— abolition of the slave trade teeuee tt— abolition of the slave trade because it was— abolition of the slave trade because it was so lucrative to them. — because it was so lucrative to them. art— because it was so lucrative to them. and the— because it was so lucrative to them. and the british and the term— them. and the british and the french actually— them. and the british and the french actually had to go inland and french actually had to go inland ert-the— french actually had to go inland and-the abolition- french actually had to go inland and the abolition of and to enforce the abolition of thelthe— and to enforce the abolition of the .the slave _ and to enforce the abolition of the the slave trade, although the of the slave trade, although it the of the slave trade, although rt eorttruet— the of the slave trade, although it continued into— the of the slave trade, although it continued into the 20th eerturw— it continued into the 20th century-terms- it continued into the 20th century terms of the islamic century in terms of the islamic eteue— century in terms of the islamic eteue trete— century in terms of the islamic slave trade of— century in terms of the islamic slave trade of africans . but why slave trade of africans. but why eomehow— slave trade of africans. but why somehow britain _ slave trade of africans. but why somehow britain and the west are urtauetw— somehow britain and the west are urtauetw eurt—

somehow britain and the west are uniquely evil and— somehow britain and the west are uniquely evil and uniquely euepeet— uniquely evil and uniquely suspect here?— uniquely evil and uniquely suspect here? that's the aueettor— suspect here? that's the question we _ suspect here? that's the question we should be asking. we ehoutt— question we should be asking. we ehoutt te— question we should be asking. we should be celebrating the fact thet— should be celebrating the fact thet trttetr— should be celebrating the fact that britain uniquely spent 40% of that britain uniquely spent 40% ot tte— that britain uniquely spent 40% ot rte ot— that britain uniquely spent 40% ot rte ot tte— that britain uniquely spent 40% of its of its national income, treetra— of its of its national income, freeing slaves— of its of its national income, freeing slaves and then 13% of towet— freeing slaves and then 13% of ttowet weuw— freeing slaves and then 13% of royal navy resources expended. we royal navy resources expended. we epert— royal navy resources expended. we epert moe— royal navy resources expended. we spent more money trying to tree— we spent more money trying to tree eteuee— we spent more money trying to free slaves than _ we spent more money trying to free slaves than we actually mete— free slaves than we actually mete trom — free slaves than we actually made from slavery . 3e �*7 free slaves than we actually made from slavery . 31 �*7 t h made from slavery. ray, if i can teer— made from slavery. ray, if i can hear people out there cheering your common there and your common sense there and let's now the let's move on now from the guardian the parade . guardian raining on the parade. and at some of the and let's look at some of the wonderful that wonderful new photographs that have about from have been released about from the king. yes. so some lovely pteturee— the king. yes. so some lovely preturee heue— the king. yes. so some lovely pictures have been— hrg yes. so some lovely pictures have been released, tretuttra— pictures have been released, including the— pictures have been released, including the matriculation photo. — including the matriculation photo. the— including the matriculation photo. the photo- including the matriculation photo. er: trtrh photo. the photo of admission when you enter cambridge university of a young prince of wales in 1967. the photograph , wales in 1967. the photograph, i'm not sure if you're showing it now, says , you know, his it now, says, you know, his royal highness , the prince of royal highness, the prince of wales. and it harkens back to a very happy wales. and it harkens back to a very happy time for him at cambridge, where he really got involved in in the in the life of cambridge as a university student. and i think it really goes to show off his varied interests, you know , lots of

interests, you know, lots of people have said since he's become king, what a wonderful and eloquent speaker he has and what charisma he has. well, of course, honed at course, that was honed at cambridge, where he was part of the footlights . okay, ralph. the footlights. okay, ralph. rtetph— the footlights. okay, ralph. rtetph r— the footlights. okay, ralph. ttetph. r heue— the footlights. okay, ralph. ralph, i have to— gthtr okay, ralph. ralph, i have to jump in. ghee okay, ralph. ralph, i have to jump in. i have to rump— ralph, i have to jump in. i have to rump tr.— ralph, i have to jump in. i have to rump tr. sadly— ralph, i have to jump in. i have to jump in. sadly, we're all out of to jump in. sadly, we're all out ot ttme.— to jump in. sadly, we're all out ot ttme. tut— to jump in. sadly, we're all out of time, but thank— to jump in. sadly, we're all out of time, but thank you for your expert— of time, but thank you for your expert rretaht— of time, but thank you for your expert insight enjoy expert insight and enjoy the cororettor— expert insight and enjoy the- coronation _watching expert insight and enjoy the- corolistening-watching expert insight and enjoy the corolistening to watching expert insight and enjoy the corolistening to gb watching expert insight and enjoy the corolistening to gb newsatching and listening to gb news seturtew— and listening to gb news- saturday—martin saturday today with me, martin teutrew— daubney, thank you so much for rotrtra— daubney, thank you so much for joining-afternoon.- daubney, thank you so much for joining afternoon. and daubney, thank you so much for joinin is afternoon. and daubney, thank you so much for joinin is up afternoon. and daubney, thank you so much for joinin is up next.fternoon. and daubney, thank you so much for joinin is up next. buttoon. and daubney, thank you so much for joinin is up next. but first,and nana is up next. but first, tet-e— nana is up next. but first, tet-e tete— nana is up next. but first, tet-e tete e— nana is up next. but first, let's take a look the weather let's take a look at the weather wtth— let's take a look at the weather wtth-uette— let's take a look at the weather with - hello, i'm - with marco. hello, i'm marco reteare— with marco. hello, i'm marco petagna welcome to your petagna and welcome to your teteet— petagna and welcome to your latest weather— petagna and welcome to your latest weather update from the petagna and welcome to your late:office:her update from the petagna and welcome to your late:office .er update from the petagna and welcome to your late:office . foripdate from the petagna and welcome to your late:office . for the te from the petagna and welcome to your late:office . for the te from this met office. for the rest of this weetert— met office. for the rest of this weekend, we'll— met office. for the rest of this weekend, we'll-to- weekend, we'll hold on to a mtxet— weekend, we'll hold on to a mtxet tea— weekend, we'll hold on to a mtxet tea ot— weekend, we'll hold on to a mixed bag of weather across the uk. mixed bag of weather across the ut. _te— mixed bag of weather across the ut. _te eoe— mixed bag of weather across the uk. be some sunshine, uk. there'll be some sunshine, some-showers,- uk. there'll be some sunshine, some showers, feeling some heavy showers, but feeling pteeeerttw— pleasantly warm when the sun oee- the- pleasantly warm when the sun comes . the reason comes through. the reason for the— comes through. the reason for the-conditions- comes through. the reason for the-conditions is- comes through. the reason for the conditions is down to the mixed conditions is down to the mixed conditions is down to the—aot— the mixed conditions is down to| the-got-pressure the fact we've got high pressure towerte— the fact we've got high pressure towerte-eeet.— the fact we've got high pressure towards-east, low- the fact we've got high pressure towards east, low pressure towards the east, low pressure out— towards the east, low pressure out towerte— towards the east, low pressure out towards that's out towards the west. that's giving— out towards the west. that's arutralttaht— out towards the west. that's giving light winds, slack giving us light winds, a slack pressure gradient across the uk, but pressure gradient across the uk, tut-ettowtra— pressure gradient across the uk, but allowing those but equally allowing those ehowee— but equally allowing those. showers _times but equally allowing those. showers—times . showers to develop at times. heavy— showers to develop at times. heavy showers— showers to develop at times. heavy showers to _ showers to develop at times. heavy showers to end the day acrosswes-t— heavy showers to end the day across-west and- heavy showers to end the day across west and north—west heavy showers to end the day ac the west and north—west heavy showers to end the day ac the uk. west and north—west heavy showers to end the day ac the uk. and: and north—west heavy showers to end the day ac the uk. and we'reiorth—west heavy showers to end the day ac the uk. and we're continuing of the uk. and we're continuing to—these- to see showers across these northern— to see showers across these northern _areasi to see showers across these. northern _ areas as to see showers across these- northern _ areas as we northern and western areas as we head—rest— northern and western areas as we head—rest of- northern and western areas as we head _rest of the - head through the rest of the evening— evening into the overnight period— evening into the overnight period _clearer- evening into the overnight period clearer skies down

period with a clearer skies down towards— period with a clearer skies down towards south—east and up towards the south—east and up towards— towards the south—east and up towards the— towards the south—east and up towards the north—east of the uk , some-cloud— towards the north—east of the uk , some-cloud-mist- , some low cloud and mist patches.— , some low cloud and mist patches. _ best. , some low cloud and misti patches. _best of , some low cloud and mist- patches. _best of the patches. but as the best of the eeere“— patches. but as the best of the clearer weather— patches. but as the best of the clearer weather here generally and— clearer weather here generally and-wen— and it's here, we'll see the lowest—to- and it's here, we'll see the lowest—to toi and it's here, we'll see the- lowest_to to down lowest temperatures to to down six degrees— lowest temperatures to to down six degrees south—east, six degrees in the south—east, possibly— six degrees in the south—east, possibly _freezing- possibly close to freezing across the north—east of swam,— across the north—east of scotland, _we - across the north—east of scotland, we could scotland, where we could see a touch— scotland, where we could see a touch-frost— scotland, where we could see a touch .frost milder, - scotland, where we could see a touch frost milder, though, scotland, where we could see a touch the rost milder, though, scotland, where we could see a touch the cloudilder, though, scotland, where we could see a touch the cloud outr, though, scotland, where we could see a touch the cloud out towardsl, scotland, where we could see a touch the cloud out towards the under the cloud out towards the west. — under the cloud out towards the west. _we- west. and it's here we'll see sowrrors— west. and it's here we'll see showers—gol west. and it's here we'll seei showers—go ow showers from the word go on sundow— showers from the word go on sorrow—owrs- showers from the word go on. sunday,_quite heavy , sunday, some still quite heavy, rrwwoorw— sunday, some still quite heavy, even thundery showers contend even thundery showers to contend wrrrr. — even thundery showers to contend wrrrr. .rwoso— even thundery showers to contend with. .those-tendingl with. and those showers tending to with. and those showers tending ro—wroow- with. and those showers tending ro—wroow os- with. and those showers tending ro—wroow os wo| to break out more widely as we go to break out more widely as we oro-rwo— to break out more widely as we go-rwo day— to break out more widely as we go-rwo day or- to break out more widely as we go the day on sunday. go through the day on sunday. swu— go through the day on sunday.| srru—rworowo still the south—east of england rowing—wool holding on to the best of the sunshine— holding on to the best of the. sunshine—generally sunshine and staying generally dry—through- sunshine and staying generally dry—through into. dry here. i think through into the dry here. i think through into rho—r- dry here. i think through into rho—r sowl the afternoon. but as i say, some-woow- the afternoon. but as i say, some heavy downpours some quite heavy downpours deveiopingr_ some quite heavy downpours developing, particularly across worrrrorw— developing, particularly acrossi northern—into northern ireland as we go into sunday— northern ireland as we go into sunday afternoon— northern ireland as we go into sunday afternoon in sunshine sunday afternoon in the sunshine roworos— sunday afternoon in the sunshine roworos rwo— sunday afternoon in the sunshine towards the south— sunday afternoon in the sunshine towards the south with the highs of towards the south with the highs orlro — towards the south with the highs orlro rs,— towards the south with the highs oflto 18, locally,— towards the south with the highs oflto 18, locally, 19— of 17 to 18, locally, 19 degrees— of 17 to 18, locally, 19. degrees,-chilly degrees, but still chilly roworos— degrees, but still chilly towards north—east of towards the north—east of sorrow— towards the north—east of scotland _the - towards the north—east of- scotland-the evening towards the north—east of- scotland _the evening , scotland and into the evening, the scotland and into the evening, we sowrrors— scotland and into the evening, the showers-to - scotland and into the evening, the showers to migrate the showers tend to migrate worr— the showers tend to migrate their-eastwards- the showers tend to migrate their eastwards across the their way eastwards across the us. — their way eastwards across the us. ir— their way eastwards across the uw. lr wrink— their way eastwards across the uk..i think-the- uk. so i think even the south—east— uk. so i think even the south—east start uk. so i think even the south—east-start see south—east will start to see some developing as south—east will start to see - some _developing as we south—east will start to see - some-developing as we go some showers developing as we go wrough— some showers developing as we go through-nightw— some showers developing as we go through night, whereas through sunday night, whereas out through sunday night, whereas our—wosr- through sunday night, whereas our—wosr rwo- through sunday night, whereas. out—west the showers out towards the west the showers wru— out towards the west the showers wru-ooso. — out towards the west the showers will-ease. we'll- out towards the west the showers will-ease. we'll see- will start to ease. we'll see some clearer— will start to ease. we'll see some clearer spells. with will start to ease. we'll see sonfactearer spells. with will start to ease. we'll see sonfact that spells. with will start to ease. we'll see sonfact that there's with will start to ease. we'll see sonfact that there's still with will start to ease. we'll see sonfact that there's still aith the fact that there's still a for—crowd- the fact that there's still a. fair—cloud around the fact that there's still a- fair_cloud around no fair amount of cloud around no issues temperatures issues with temperatures on sunday— sunday night generally holding

up sunday night generally holding up_7_ sunday night generally holding| wp—r-oogroos up in the range 7 to 10 degrees on up in the range 7 to 10 degrees or morrow,— up in the range 7 to 10 degrees on monday, bank— up in the range 7 to 10 degrees on monday, bank holiday monday, of on monday, bank holiday monday, or , rwo— on monday, bank holiday monday, of course , the focus— on monday, bank holiday monday, of course , the focus for the of course, the focus for the sowrrors— of course, the focus for the showers will— of course, the focus for the showers will be— of course, the focus for the showers will be towards the east oro—ergono- showers will be towards the east and england. again, and southeast of england. again, i and southeast of england. again, r—swowors— and southeast of england. again, i_showers around- i or 2 heavy showers around wore.— i or 2 heavy showers around hers-powwo- i or 2 heavy showers around here.-patchy rain- i or 2 heavy showers around here. patchy rain towards here. some patchy rain towards the-scotland,- the north of scotland, but orsowrroro— the north of scotland, but elsewhere with- the north of scotland, but elsewhere with higher pressure downswing,— elsewhere with higher pressure dominating, should see a lot elsewhere with higher pressure dofine|ting, should see a lot elsewhere with higher pressure dofine and, should see a lot elsewhere with higher pressure dofine and settledruld see a lot elsewhere with higher pressure dofine and settled weathera lot elsewhere with higher pressure dofine and settled weather with of fine and settled weather with rompororwros— of fine and settled weather with temperatures quite temperatures climbing quite wroow— temperatures climbing quite wow—1 temperatures climbing quite . wroow—. awo nicely into the high teens. and we nicely into the high teens. and wo-ow— nicely into the high teens. and wo-ow ro— nicely into the high teens. and wo-ow ro worry- nicely into the high teens. and we on to plenty of fine we hold on to plenty of fine woorrror— we hold on to plenty of fine weather-the- we hold on to plenty of fine weather the bulk of the weather across the bulk of the uk weather across the bulk of thei uw—woowosoow uk on tuesday and wednesday with former—.—

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