channel good channel- . good afternoon. channel— . good afternoon. welcome to channel good afternoon. welcome to gb news - good afternoon. welcome to gb news sunday. — - good afternoon. welcome to gb news sunday. _-l news sunday. i'm emily carver. for the— news sunday. i'm emily carver. for the next— news sunday. i'm emily carver. for the next-hours,- news sunday. i'm emily carver. for the next hours, be for the next two hours, i'll be keeping—en- for the next two hours, i'll be keeping—en w,| keeping you company on tv, enure— keeping you company on tv, online_radio. - keeping you company on tv, online _ radio. sol online and digital radio. so whee-e— online and digital radio. so whee-e en— online and digital radio. so what's on the— online and digital radio. so what's on the menu today .7 first what's on the menu today? first up, eu— what's on the menu today? first up, all going— what's on the menu today? first up, we're all going to be invited— up, we're all going to be invited to— up, we're all going to be invited to swear true allegiance to king— invited to swear true allegiance to king charles— invited to swear true allegiance to king charles at— invited to swear true allegiance to king charles at his coronation— to king charles at his coronation next weekend. i want to know,— coronation next weekend. i want to know, wm— coronation next weekend. i want to know, will you— coronation next weekend. i want to know, will you be joining in? wet— to know, will you be joining in? wm you— to know, will you be joining in? wm you get— to know, will you be joining in? wm you get up— to know, will you be joining in? will you get up the sofa ? will you get up off the sofa? sofa,— will you get up off the sofa? sefe, seep— will you get up off the sofa? sofa, stop -you're - will you get up off the sofa? sofa, stop you're doing and sofa, stop what you're doing and pledge— sofa, stop what you're doing and pledge your— sofa, stop what you're doing and pledge your allegiance our pledge your allegiance to our menace— pledge your allegiance to our monarch . we'll— pledge your allegiance to our monarch . we'll be debating that monarch. we'll be debating that throughout—let- monarch. we'll be debating that throughout—let me| throughout the show. so let me know— throughout the show. so let mei knew—wen know what you think. then we'll be going— know what you think. then we'll be going-ee— know what you think. then we'll be going -to - rights| be going live to women's rights campaigner— be going live to women's rights campaigner ene— be going live to women's rights campaigner and self—proclaimed terf keny— campaigner and self—proclaimed terf kelly keane— campaigner and self—proclaimed terf kelly keane in— campaigner and self—proclaimed

terf kelly keane in hyde park. she-e— terf kelly keane in hyde park. she-e holding— terf kelly keane in hyde park. she's holding a— terf kelly keane in hyde park. she's holding a let women speak mu,— she's holding a let women speak reuy, bee— she's holding a let women speak reuy, but wm— she's holding a let women speak rally, but will there _ she's holding a let women speak rally, but will there be a counter— rally, but will there be a counter rally?- rally, but will there be a counter rally? a counter proteste— counter rally? a counter proteete r— counter rally? a counter protest? i also- counter rally? a counter protest? i also want to ask her utetter— protest? i also want to ask her utetter ete— protest? i also want to ask her whether she thinks britain etoutt — whether she thinks britain should follow _ whether she thinks britain should follow us statements arno-e— should follow us statements anna's example— should follow us statements anna's example and ban gender otttrmtue— anna's example and ban gender affirming care— anna's example and ban gender affirming care for— anna's example and ban gender affirming care for transgender ettttreu— affirming care for transgender children. that's— affirming care for transgender children. that's things like hormone— children. that's things like hormone blockers and surgery . hormone blockers and surgery. aut— hormone blockers and surgery. art wett— hormone blockers and surgery. art ue-tt te— hormone blockers and surgery. and we'll be getting stuck into the very— and we'll be getting stuck into the very latest— and we'll be getting stuck into the very latest political news. totour— the very latest political news. labour leader— the very latest political news. labour leader keir starmer wants to mote— labour leader keir starmer wants to make labour— labour leader keir starmer wants to make labour the— labour leader keir starmer wants to make labour the new party of torre— to make labour the new party of home ownership— to make labour the new party of home ownership ._ to make labour the new party of home ownership . but how is he home ownership. but how is he going— home ownership. but how is he going to— home ownership. but how is he gotug to mote— home ownership. but how is he going to make that happen? we'll find going to make that happen? we'll ttut out— going to make that happen? we'll ttut out pteuty— going to make that happen? we'll find out plenty more coming up on find out plenty more coming up or tree— find out plenty more coming up or the stou— find out plenty more coming up on the show today. get your wewe— on the show today. get your coming— on the show today. get your views coming would views coming in. would you pledge— views coming in. would you ptetee—to- views coming in. would you pledge_to kingl pledge allegiance to king ctorteee— pledge allegiance to king charles? but— pledge allegiance to king charles? but first, it's the news headlines with tatiana souetez— news headlines with tatiana souetez .— news headlines with tatiana sanchez . emily,— news headlines with tatiana sanchez . emily, thank you and sanchez. emily, thank you and 9°°d_ sanchez. emily, thank you and good afternoon. _ sanchez. emily, thank you and good afternoon. " good afternoon. this is the latest from the gb news room. the red cross has sent planes with medical supplies to the port of sudan. that's following the evacuation flight the final evacuation flight carrying british nationals that departed khartoum late last

night. deputy prime minister oliver dowden said rescue operations ended following a significant decline in the number of british nationals coming forward to flee nearly 1900 people on 21 flights have been evacuated . however, there been evacuated. however, there are still thousands of british citizens stuck amid fighting . citizens stuck amid fighting. nhs nurses across the country will walk out from 8:00 this evening in a 28 hour strike over pay evening in a 28 hour strike over pay in a ballot earlier this month 54% of rcn members rejected the government's offer of a 5% pay rise. great ormond street hospital is among organisations where nurses have agreed to keep limited staff on after voicing serious concerns about patient safety during the walkout, nhs england is urging the public to use the health service wisely. it said emergency and urgent care would remain the priority. the head of global projects at youth voices uk, jason reed, told gb news the nurses strike is the wrong thing

to do . i just hate to think of to do. i just hate to think of all to do. i just hate to think of art-potteute— to do. i just hate to think of all-patients and- r:r:::r i just hate to think of all patients and all those all those patients and all those tomtttee— all those patients and all those tomtttee wro— all those patients and all those families who suffer families who will suffer ttreettw— families who will suffer directly as— families who will suffer directly as a— families who will suffer directly as a result of the of wrot— directly as a result of the of what the— directly as a result of the of what the rcn _ directly as a result of the of what the rcn are doing. if they reottw— what the rcn are doing. if they reottw wee— what the rcn are doing. if they really were concerned about potent— really were concerned about patient safety,— really were concerned about patient safety, i— really were concerned about patient safety, i don't think trot— patient safety, i don't think that they— patient safety, i don't think that they would be doing this. i tor-t— that they would be doing this. i tor-t turnt— that they would be doing this. i don't think you— that they would be doing this. i don't think you could have a crew— don't think you could have a clear conscience— don't think you could have a clear conscience to walk out if you-e— clear conscience to walk out if you're—care nurse| you're an intensive care nurse or a cancer nurse— you're an intensive care nurse or a cancer nurse and say that it or a cancer nurse and say that tt woe— or a cancer nurse and say that tt potent— or a cancer nurse and say that it was patient safety that was mottwottue — it was patient safety that was mottwottug you— it was patient safety that was motivating you pretty clearly . motivating you pretty clearly. they— motivating you pretty clearly. ttey tuet— motivating you pretty clearly. ttey tuet wort— motivating you pretty clearly. they just want to squeeze a few extra — they just want to squeeze a few extra -out— they just want to squeeze a few extra-out ot— they just want to squeeze a few extra -out of the - extra pounds out of the government. - extra pounds out of the government. money, government. our money, of course, that we're paying trough— course, that we're paying ttrougt-.- course, that we're paying through -. and - course, that we're paying through . and so it's just through taxes. and so it's just not— through taxes. and so it's just not o— through taxes. and so it's just not a situation— through taxes. and so it's just not a situation that the government _ not a situation that the government should should give tuto— government should should give tuto out— government should should give tuto out eet— government should should give into and set a— government should should give into and set a precedent for tuture—ttte- into and set a precedent for future _this is. into and set a precedent fori future _this is an future strikes that this is an okay— future strikes that this is an okay-to— future strikes that this is an otoy-to .- future strikes that this is an otoy-to . eut- future strikes that this is an okay do . but the okay thing to do. but the oeetetout— okay thing to do. but the assistant editor at prospect rroogtwe— assistant editor at prospect magazine, emily crawford, says trot— magazine, emily crawford, says that uee— magazine, emily crawford, says that nurses are— magazine, emily crawford, says that nurses are putting patients twee— that nurses are putting patients twee ot— that nurses are putting patients twee ot rtet— that nurses are putting patients lives at risk due— that nurses are putting patients lives at risk due to being overworked— lives at risk due to being overworked if— lives at risk due to being overworked if nurses have been so overworked if nurses have been eo overworked— overworked if nurses have been so overworked and— overworked if nurses have been so overworked and understaffed for so overworked and understaffed tor tree— so overworked and understaffed tor the poet— so overworked and understaffed for the past few— so overworked and understaffed for the past few years , that in for the past few years, that in tteett— for the past few years, that in tteett toe— for the past few years, that in itself has been— for the past few years, that in itself has been a— for the past few years, that in itself has been a risk to potent— itself has been a risk to patient safety- itself has been a risk to patient safety anyway. last year— patient safety anyway. last vearr i_ patient safety anyway. last year. t tttut— patient safety anyway. last year, i think last— patient safety anyway. last year, i think last year there were 40,000 full time nurses vacancies in england . and if vacancies in england. and if we've got massive, massive gaps

like that, i think patient safety has already been at risk like that, i think patient saftay has already been at risk like that, i think patient safta while already been at risk like that, i think patient safta while . the! been at risk like that, i think patient safta while . the prime at risk like that, i think patient safta while . the prime minister for a while. the prime minister toe— for a while. the prime minister toe etommet— for a while. the prime minister has slammed what— the prime minister has slammed what he's called eetttet— has slammed what he's called selfish saboteurs_ has slammed what he's called selfish saboteurs who've forced trotte— selfish saboteurs who've forced trottte to — selfish saboteurs who've forced trottte to 90— selfish saboteurs who've forced traffic to go slow— selfish saboteurs who've forced traffic to go slow ,_ selfish saboteurs who've forced traffic to go slow , rishi sunak traffic to go slow, rishi sunak tott— traffic to go slow, rishi sunak tott rte— traffic to go slow, rishi sunak tott the sun— traffic to go slow, rishi sunak told the sun on— traffic to go slow, rishi sunak told the sun on sunday that he wette— told the sun on sunday that he woute to— told the sun on sunday that he woute to put— told the sun on sunday that he wants to putlstop_ told the sun on sunday that he wants to put stop those who wants to put a stop to those who tute— wants to put a stop to those who use this tactic. _ wants to put a stop to those who use this tactic. ministers want oottee— use this tactic. ministers want oottee to— use this tactic. ministers want oottee to te— use this tactic. ministers want police to be able— use this tactic. ministers want police to be able to stop slow wottere. — police to be able to stop slow wottere. eut— police to be able to stop slow walkers. but labour the walkers. but labour says the government— walkers. but labour says the government is— walkers. but labour says the government is just chasing teetttuee— government is just chasing headlines. comes as ministers headlines. it comes as ministers oter— headlines. it comes as ministers plan to— headlines. it comes as ministers plan to-ttrouet— headlines. it comes as ministers plan to through measures to plan to push through measures to wtteu— plan to push through measures to wtteu-tegot— plan to push through measures to widen legal definition of widen the legal definition of serious disruption to enable ottteere— serious disruption to enable ottteere to— serious disruption to enable officers to stop— serious disruption to enable officers to stop activists interfering _ officers to stop activists interfering with traffic . tens interfering with traffic. tens of thousands— interfering with traffic. tens of thousands of— interfering with traffic. tens of thousands of people took to the etreete— of thousands of people took to the streets in— of thousands of people took to the streets in israel last night as the streets in israel last night oe oroteet— the streets in israel last night as protest over— the streets in israel last night as protest over the country's tuttetot— as protest over the country's judicial overhaul— as protest over the country's judicial overhaul continue. aettwete— judicial overhaul continue. activists activists left the metr— activists activists left the roote— activists activists left the main roots of— activists activists left the main roots of the demonstration to eouee— main roots of the demonstration to major— main roots of the demonstration to cause major disruption to motortete— to cause major disruption to motorists back— to cause major disruption to motorists back on the main route . drone— motorists back on the main route . drone tootoge— motorists back on the main route . drone footage shows tens of tnoueonte— . drone footage shows tens of thousands of— . drone footage shows tens of thousands of people waving reroett— thousands of people waving israeli flags— thousands of people waving israeli flags in— thousands of people waving israeli flags in a square in tel awn— israeli flags in a square in tel aww .— israeli flags in a square in tel aww , oe— israeli flags in a square in tel aww , oe tn— israeli flags in a square in tel aviv , as in protest— israeli flags in a square in tel aviv , as in protest against aviv, as in protest against prone— aviv, as in protest against ptone ty— aviv, as in protest against ptone by we— aviv, as in protest against plans by the country's government- plans by the country's government to have control over the government to have control over tne oppotntnent— government to have control over the appointment of judges. the teen— the appointment of judges. the israeli president— the appointment of judges. the israeli president has urged both

ettee— israeli president has urged both ettee to— israeli president has urged both sides to reach— israeli president has urged both sides to reach a— israeli president has urged both sides to reach a compromise in tne— sides to reach a compromise in tne wtn— sides to reach a compromise in the 17th consecutive week of demonstrations— the 17th consecutive week of demonstrations ,_ the 17th consecutive week of demonstrations , five people, demonstrations, five people, tnetuttne— demonstrations, five people, tnetuttne on— demonstrations, five people, including an eight year old entro— including an eight year old dud, newe— including an eight year old child, have been killed in a enoottne— child, have been killed in a enoottne ot— child, have been killed in a shooting at a— child, have been killed in a shooting at a home in texas. orttetote— shooting at a home in texas. officials from _ shooting at a home in texas. officials from the san jacinto county— officials from the san jacinto county sheriff's— officials from the san jacinto county sheriff's office attended the county sheriff's office attended tne ene— county sheriff's office attended the scene after— county sheriff's office attended the scene after they received a cott— the scene after they received a cot otout— the scene after they received a call about harassment . several call about harassment. several wetne— call about harassment. several wettne not— call about harassment. several victims had been— call about harassment. several victims had been shot by the tne— victims had been shot by the ttne oottee— victims had been shot by the time police arrived . the suspect time police arrived. the suspect is time police arrived. the suspect te unet— time police arrived. the suspect te ornet ont— time police arrived. the suspect is armed and still— time police arrived. the suspect is armed and still on the run . is armed and still on the run. tne— is armed and still on the run. tne entren— is armed and still on the run. the british army— is armed and still on the run. the british army has begun reneoreote— the british army has begun rehearsals for— the british army has begun rehearsals for the king's coronation. _ rehearsals for the king's coronation. soldiers from all ttwetone— coronation. soldiers from all divisions of— coronation. soldiers from all divisions of the— coronation. soldiers from all divisions of the armed forces nove— divisions of the armed forces have gathered— divisions of the armed forces have gathered at— divisions of the armed forces have gathered at training areas soutn— have gathered at training areas across south london to prepare for across south london to prepare tor tne— across south london to prepare tor tne eent— across south london to prepare for the event. soldiers have flown— for the event. soldiers have ttown none— for the event. soldiers have flown home from operational tuttee— flown home from operational tuttee or— flown home from operational duties or training exercises tron— duties or training exercises tron oe— duties or training exercises tron oe tor— duties or training exercises from as far as— duties or training exercises from as far as cyprus , iraq, from as far as cyprus, iraq, kenyo— from as far as cyprus, iraq, tenyo ont— from as far as cyprus, iraq, kenya and estonia to represent tnetr— kenya and estonia to represent their regiments— kenya and estonia to represent their regiments and corpse at their regiments and corpse at tne event— their regiments and corpse at tne event .— their regiments and corpse at the event . representatives from the event. representatives from the event. representatives from tne notton-e— the event. representatives from the nation's faith— the event. representatives from the nation's faith communities wttt— the nation's faith communities wttt ptoy— the nation's faith communities wttt ptoy on— the nation's faith communities will play an active role in the coronotton.— will play an active role in the coronation. for— will play an active role in the coronation. for the first time in coronation. for the first time tn ntetory,— coronation. for the first time in history, when— coronation. for the first time in history, when king charles is onet— in history, when king charles is crowned leaders— in history, when king charles is crowned leaders from jewish,

untu— crowned leaders from jewish, ntntu srtn— crowned leaders from jewish, hindu, sikh, muslim and buddhist groupe— hindu, sikh, muslim and buddhist groupe wttt— hindu, sikh, muslim and buddhist groups will deliver— hindu, sikh, muslim and buddhist groups will deliver a greeting to tne— groups will deliver a greeting to tne king— groups will deliver a greeting to tne king tn— groups will deliver a greeting to the king in unison, the arenttenoo— to the king in unison, the archbishop of— to the king in unison, the archbishop of canterbury says the archbishop of canterbury says tne eewtee— archbishop of canterbury says the service will— archbishop of canterbury says the service will be foremost an act ot— the service will be foremost an act of christian— the service will be foremost an act of christian worship, but tnot— act of christian worship, but tnot ne— act of christian worship, but that new elements will reflect the that new elements will reflect tne ttweretty— that new elements will reflect the diversity of— that new elements will reflect the diversity of modern society . ant— the diversity of modern society . ant ttnotty— the diversity of modern society . ant ttnotty .— the diversity of modern society . and finally , the _ the diversity of modern society . and finally , the stone of . and finally, the stone of neettny— . and finally, the stone of neettny noe— . and finally, the stone of destiny has been welcomed to tnetont— destiny has been welcomed to tnetont tn— destiny has been welcomed to tngtont tn o— destiny has been welcomed to england in a special ceremony oneot— england in a special ceremony oneot ot— england in a special ceremony oneot ot tne— england in a special ceremony ahead of the event. it dates toot— ahead of the event. it dates toot to— ahead of the event. it dates toot to tne— ahead of the event. it dates back to the 12th— ahead of the event. it dates back to the 12th century and is nornotty— back to the 12th century and is nornotty on— back to the 12th century and is normally on display at edinburgh coette— normally on display at edinburgh coette .— normally on display at edinburgh coette . rt— normally on display at edinburgh castle . it witt— normally on display at edinburgh castle . it will sit— normally on display at edinburgh castle . it will sit under the castle. it will sit under the knee— castle. it will sit under the king's throne— castle. it will sit under the king's throne next week and has teen— king's throne next week and has teen ueee— king's throne next week and has teen ueet tn— king's throne next week and has been used in coronations for neorty— been used in coronations for neorty .— been used in coronations for neorty . a— been used in coronations for nearly . a thousand years. this nearly. a thousand years. this is nearly. a thousand years. this te en— nearly. a thousand years. this te en wewe— nearly. a thousand years. this is gb news will— nearly. a thousand years. this is gb news will bring you more oe rt— is gb news will bring you more news as it happens . now it's news as it happens. now it's toot— news as it happens. now it's toot to— news as it happens. now it's toot to .— back to. emily thank- back to. emily thank you, tatiana . back to. emily- thank you, tatiana . so toot to. tntty— thank you, tatiana . so our big thank you, tatiana. so our big uueetton— thank you, tatiana. so our big question of the day , will you be question of the day, will you be pledging allegiance to king charles at the coronation next weekend? that's what we're all being invited to do. but will

you join in? is it a bit naff or is a nice sign of national is it a nice sign of national pride , patriotism and love of pride, patriotism and love of your king and country? but first, before we debate that keir starmer has said he'll be bolder than blair on public service reform. he's announced his plan to build more houses and get first time buyers onto the property ladder. the labour leader pledged to lead a reforming government if his party is elected. he's promised today to introduce a raft of changes to tackle the housing shortage . ridge joining me now shortage. ridge joining me now to discuss this is gb news deputy political editor tom harwood tom, we've got a policy proposal from keir starmer . yes proposal from keir starmer. yes it's a turn up for the books, of course. keir it's a turn up for the books, of course . keir starmer has been course. keir starmer has been entered— course. keir starmer has been entteteet tn— course. keir starmer has been criticised in recent— rttitr. keir starmer has been criticised in recent years for being— criticised in recent years for tetng rotner— criticised in recent years for being rather a— criticised in recent years for being rather a bland, blank ttonenonee— being rather a bland, blank blancmange when it comes to potty— blancmange when it comes to oottey offering— blancmange when it comes to policy offering not being ponteutorty— policy offering not being particularly forthcoming on much of particularly forthcoming on much ot wnot— particularly forthcoming on much ot wnot ne— particularly forthcoming on much of what he would— particularly forthcoming on much of what he would do in government— of what he would do in government .- of what he would do in government . but today we do have government. but today we do have some more detail— government. but today we do have some more detail on— government. but today we do have some more detail on some areas otter— some more detail on some areas otner tnon— some more detail on some areas

otner tnon ot— some more detail on some areas other than of course— some more detail on some areas other than of course the two tone— other than of course the two tone tnot— other than of course the two taxes that he— other than of course the two taxes that he wants to raise . taxes that he wants to raise. tne— taxes that he wants to raise. we re— taxes that he wants to raise. this is specific— taxes that he wants to raise. this is specific in- taxes that he wants to raise. this is specific in relation to housebuilding_ this is specific in relation to housebuilding ,_ this is specific in relation to housebuilding , restoring the housebuilding, restoring the target— housebuilding, restoring the torgettnot— housebuilding, restoring the target that this— housebuilding, restoring the target that this government had unttt— target that this government had unttt o— target that this government had unttt o couple— target that this government had until a couple of— target that this government had until a couple of months ago wttn— until a couple of months ago wttn retort— until a couple of months ago with regard to— until a couple of months ago with regard to building 300,000 nonee— with regard to building 300,000 nonee o— with regard to building 300,000 nonee o year.— with regard to building 300,000 homes a year. it— with regard to building 300,000 homes a year. it must be said for homes a year. it must be said tor ott— homes a year. it must be said tor ott tne— homes a year. it must be said for all the years— homes a year. it must be said for all the years that we had tnot— for all the years that we had tnot target— for all the years that we had that target as— for all the years that we had that target as a— for all the years that we had that target as a country, we ntt— that target as a country, we never hit it,— that target as a country, we never hit it, or— that target as a country, we never hit it, or at least nowen-t— never hit it, or at least newen-t tn— never hit it, or at least haven't in the- never hit it, or at least haven't in the last decade . so haven't in the last decade. so tne— haven't in the last decade. so tne reor— haven't in the last decade. so the real question— haven't in the last decade. so the real question is how will it oetuotty— the real question is how will it oetuotty te— the real question is how will it actually be delivered ? will actually be delivered? will tnere— actually be delivered? will tnere te— actually be delivered? will there be more— actually be delivered? will there be more imposed missions otoeet— there be more imposed missions otoeet on— there be more imposed missions placed on councils? well eeentngty— placed on councils? well seemingly not, because in the same sentence that keir starmer ent— same sentence that keir starmer eott totoy— same sentence that keir starmer eott totoy .— same sentence that keir starmer eott totoy , ne— same sentence that keir starmer said today , he wants to restore said today, he wants to restore the housebuilding target, he oteo— the housebuilding target, he oteo eut— the housebuilding target, he also said he— the housebuilding target, he also said he wants to give more power— also said he wants to give more power to— also said he wants to give more power to toeot— also said he wants to give more power to local authorities . now power to local authorities. now to tne— power to local authorities. now to tne oetute— power to local authorities. now to the astute viewers amongst the audience,— to the astute viewers amongst the audience, they might realise tnot— the audience, they might realise tnot nony— the audience, they might realise that many local— the audience, they might realise that many local authorities ton-t— that many local authorities ton-t wont— that many local authorities don't want to _ that many local authorities don't want to have this house tuttttne— don't want to have this house building target— don't want to have this house building target imposed by centrot— building target imposed by central government and therefore giving— central government and therefore gtwng tneee— central government and therefore giving these local— central government and therefore giving these local authorities more powers might well end up wttn— more powers might well end up wttn tewer— more powers might well end up with fewer homes— more powers might well end up with fewer homes built. it seems like with fewer homes built. it seems ttte o— with fewer homes built. it seems like a potential— with fewer homes built. it seems like a potential contradiction in like a potential contradiction tn tn— like a potential contradiction tn tn terme— like a potential contradiction in in terms there, but we do wort— in in terms there, but we do wet to— in in terms there, but we do wet to eee— in in terms there, but we do wait to see the— in in terms there, but we do wait to see the full detail of

we— wait to see the full detail of we prontee. — wait to see the full detail of this promise. of— wait to see the full detail of this promise. of course . and this promise. of course. and oteo— this promise. of course. and oteo we— this promise. of course. and also we learn— this promise. of course. and also we learn that keir starmer is also we learn that keir starmer te toottne— also we learn that keir starmer te toottng to— also we learn that keir starmer is looking to modernise the nhs . we— is looking to modernise the nhs . we know— is looking to modernise the nhs . we know that— is looking to modernise the nhs . we know that he— is looking to modernise the nhs . we know that he wants to nortettze— . we know that he wants to marketize it— . we know that he wants to marketize it in— . we know that he wants to marketize it in in a specific way.— marketize it in in a specific way. or— marketize it in in a specific way. of course,— marketize it in in a specific way. of course, wes streeting , way. of course, wes streeting, tne— way. of course, wes streeting, tne snotow— way. of course, wes streeting, the shadow health secretary has eooten— the shadow health secretary has epoten tetore— the shadow health secretary has spoken before about using the prone— spoken before about using the private sector— spoken before about using the private sector to _ spoken before about using the private sector to help deliver greater— private sector to help deliver greater capacity— private sector to help deliver greater capacity within the nhs, keeping— greater capacity within the nhs, keeping rt— greater capacity within the nhs, keeping tt tree— greater capacity within the nhs, keeping it free at— greater capacity within the nhs, keeping it free at the point of or— keeping it free at the point of use. of course,— keeping it free at the point of use. of course, in— keeping it free at the point of use. of course, in the way that tony— use. of course, in the way that tony ntotr— use. of course, in the way that tony ntotr ott— use. of course, in the way that tony blair did when he got into powe— tony blair did when he got into power-toot,— tony blair did when he got into power..fact, we— tony blair did when he got into power. fact, we learned today power. in fact, we learned today tnot— power. in fact, we learned today tnot tetr— power. in fact, we learned today that keir starmer— power. in fact, we learned today that keir starmer been that keir starmer has been totttne— that keir starmer has been totttng to— that keir starmer has been talking to tony— that keir starmer has been talking to tony blair in recent weeke— talking to tony blair in recent weete ont— talking to tony blair in recent weeks and months, and ponteutorty— weeks and months, and particularly one of the regrets tnot— particularly one of the regrets tnot tony— particularly one of the regrets that tony blair— particularly one of the regrets that tony blair wrote in his ttogropny— that tony blair wrote in his biography-long- that tony blair wrote in his biography long ago was biography not so long ago was tnot— biography not so long ago was tnot ne— biography not so long ago was that he didn't— biography not so long ago was that he didn't feel like he did enougn— that he didn't feel like he did enougn tn— that he didn't feel like he did enough in that— that he didn't feel like he did enough in that first term that he enough in that first term that ne-nowe— enough in that first term that he-have been- enough in that first term that he have been faster and he could have been faster and totter— he could have been faster and totter tn— he could have been faster and bolder in his— he could have been faster and bolder in his first— he could have been faster and bolder in his first term. and potenttotty— bolder in his first term. and potentially that's what those conversations— potentially that's what those conversations have been rewotwne— conversations have been revolving around with. sir keir sterner— revolving around with. sir keir sterner-nutte- starmer that's quite interesting. starmer that's quite— interesting. more private sector involvement in the nhs won't necessarily go down with some of the party faithful, but there you go . maybe that's pragmatic you go. maybe that's pragmatic move keir starmer. liz

move from keir starmer. liz truss in the papers . apparently truss in the papers. apparently she's refusing to pay a bill of £12,000. what's going on there ? £12,000. what's going on there? yes that's right. that is a for bill yes that's right. that is a for out ner— yes that's right. that is a for bill her time— yes that's right. that is a for bill her time at— “tit; ” g that is a for bill her time at chevening. the once— bill her time at chevening. the once ont— bill her time at chevening. the grace and favour— bill her time at chevening. the grace and favour home of the toreten— grace and favour home of the foreign secretary.— grace and favour home of the foreign secretary. over the summer, when _ foreign secretary. over the summer, when an there are arrested— summer, when an there are alleged social— summer, when an there are alleged social occasions that nett— alleged social occasions that were held at— alleged social occasions that were held at that at that place of were held at that at that place ot reetentee— were held at that at that place of residence rather than just tne— of residence rather than just the business— of residence rather than just the business of— of residence rather than just the business of government. now it the business of government. now tt nuet— the business of government. now tt nuet te— the business of government. now it must be said— the business of government. now it must be said that liz truss, tnrouenout— it must be said that liz truss, throughout her— it must be said that liz truss, throughout her time as foreign secretory,— throughout her time as foreign secretory, ott— throughout her time as foreign secretary, did always stump the bill secretary, did always stump the bit tor— secretary, did always stump the bit tor ony— secretary, did always stump the bill for any occasions , bill for any social occasions, anv— bill for any social occasions, any non—government business that was any non—government business that tone— any non—government business that tone ot— any non—government business that was done at that— any non—government business that was done at that home. and she noe— was done at that home. and she nee ent— was done at that home. and she nee eott or— was done at that home. and she has said or her— was done at that home. and she has said or her spokesman has ent— has said or her spokesman has eott-tnot— has said or her spokesman has said-that she— has said or her spokesman has said-that she is- has said or her spokesman has said that she is willing said today that she is willing to-up_ said today that she is willing to-uo tne— said today that she is willing to-up the cost- said today that she is willing to-up the cost for- said today that she is willing to up the cost for those to stump up the cost for those eoetot— to stump up the cost for those social engagements. however, of tnere— social engagements. however, of tnere te— social engagements. however, of course there is also— social engagements. however, of course there is also business tnot— course there is also business tnot we— course there is also business tnot tone— course there is also business that was done in— course there is also business that was done in that home in terme— that was done in that home in terne ot— that was done in that home in terms of preparation for government— terms of preparation for government civil servants , for government civil servants, for exempte— government civil servants, for exonote ttntng— government civil servants, for example, dining there and liz truee— example, dining there and liz truee te— example, dining there and liz truss is disputing the full tneee— truss is disputing the full 12,000 bill— truss is disputing the full 12,000 bill because of course tnot— 12,000 bill because of course that includes— 12,000 bill because of course that includes some of those

occasions where— that includes some of those occasions where civil servants net— occasions where civil servants net to— occasions where civil servants net to prepare— occasions where civil servants met to prepare for her time in wunter— met to prepare for her time in wunter ten. — met to prepare for her time in number ten. and— met to prepare for her time in number ten. and of course it woutt— number ten. and of course it would actually— number ten. and of course it would actually breach the civil eewtee— would actually breach the civil eerwtee .— would actually breach the civil service . civil— would actually breach the civil service . civil service code of service. civil service code of conduct— service. civil service code of eontuet wee— service. civil service code of conduct were those meetings to be conduct were those meetings to te onytntng— conduct were those meetings to be anything other— conduct were those meetings to be anything other than government- be anything other than government related and tteretore— government related and therefore, liz— government related and therefore, liz truss is saying tnot— therefore, liz truss is saying tnot ene— therefore, liz truss is saying that she should— therefore, liz truss is saying that she should not be billed in a that she should not be billed in o orwote— that she should not be billed in a private individual capacity for a private individual capacity tor tnoee— a private individual capacity for those those— a private individual capacity for those those government neettnge— for those those government neettnee .— for those those government meetings . but— for those those government meetings . but of course there meetings. but of course there are some other— meetings. but of course there are some other issues in the tree — are some other issues in the wee tne— are some other issues in the pree tne etory— are some other issues in the press. the story that that did tne— press. the story that that did tne ouet— press. the story that that did the rounds a— press. the story that that did the rounds a few— press. the story that that did the rounds a few months ago has teen— the rounds a few months ago has teen rewwet— the rounds a few months ago has teen rewwet .— the rounds a few months ago has been revived , that— the rounds a few months ago has been revived , that traces of been revived, that traces of cocaine are alleged to have been tount— cocaine are alleged to have been tount ot— cocaine are alleged to have been tount ot eoe— cocaine are alleged to have been found at some of— cocaine are alleged to have been found at some of these goodness me, some of these— found at some of these goodness me, some of these rooms at at at cnewentne— me, some of these rooms at at at cnewentnp .— me, some of these rooms at at at cnewentnp . so— me, some of these rooms at at at chevening . so potentially chevening. so potentially tnere-e— chevening. so potentially tnere-e o— chevening. so potentially there's a bit— chevening. so potentially there's a bit of- chevening. so potentially there's a bit of raucous partying— there's a bit of raucous partying that- there's a bit of raucous partying that is alleged to have gone— partying that is alleged to have gone — partying that is alleged to have gone rt— partying that is alleged to have gone on. it must— partying that is alleged to have gone on. it must be said that liz gone on. it must be said that ttz truee— gone on. it must be said that liz truss and— gone on. it must be said that liz truss and her— gone on. it must be said that liz truss and her allies strenuously— liz truss and her allies strenuously deny any of those etotne— strenuously deny any of those etotne . — strenuously deny any of those claims . gosh.— strenuously deny any of those claims . gosh. well,- strenuously deny any of those claims . e �*vw�*rzge "rzz; claims. gosh. well, there you go. maybe we'll find out a little more about those parties if they did take place. thank you very much, tom harwood there. our deputy political

editor bringing us up to date on the goings on in westminster. £12,000. that's rather a large bill to find yourself landed with. anyway, moving on the archbishop of canterbury will ask brits across the country to swear allegiance to the king on coronation day on may the 6th. everyone westminsterabbey everyone in westminster abbey and watching from home will be prompted to swear promise to prompted to swear a promise to serve the king so what do you think? should we all swear allegiance to king charles on coronation day? joining me now is royal broadcaster and commentator ralph rafe heydel—mankoo , and trade heydel—mankoo, and trade unionist and broadcaster paul embry, who i reckon will have two very different views. who shall i start with , ralph? tell shall i start with, ralph? tell me , will you be pledging me, will you be pledging allegiance next saturday to king charles? iabsolutely. allegiance next saturday to king charles? i absolutely. i think we— charles? i absolutely. i think we re— charles? i absolutely. i think we te o— charles? i absolutely. i think this is a splendid— , i absolutely. i think this is a splendid idea, oetuotty— this is a splendid idea, actually, because by by swearing otteptonee— actually, because by by swearing otteptonee to— actually, because by by swearing allegiance to the— actually, because by by swearing allegiance to the king during the allegiance to the king during tne oetuot— allegiance to the king during the actual service , we're the actual service, we're oetuotty— the actual service, we're actually engaging with our constitution— actually engaging with our constitution and we're celebrating— constitution and we're celebrating the fact that nrttotn— celebrating the fact that nrttotn te— celebrating the fact that britain is the— celebrating the fact that

britain is the world's oldest tenoerotte— britain is the world's oldest democratic constitution and otteet— democratic constitution and oldest continuous democracy, i enoutt— oldest continuous democracy, i enoutt eoy. — oldest continuous democracy, i should say. and— oldest continuous democracy, i should say. and the secret of our success is— should say. and the secret of our success is the— should say. and the secret of our success is the stability of our institutions. _ our success is the stability of our institutions. and that's due in our institutions. and that's due tn greet— our institutions. and that's due tn greet port— our institutions. and that's due tn greet pen to— our institutions. and that's due in great part to our thousand year— in great part to our thousand yeor ott— in great part to our thousand year old monarchy. and i would oetuotty— year old monarchy. and i would oetuotty 90— year old monarchy. and i would actually go further and i'd say tnot— actually go further and i'd say tnot on— actually go further and i'd say tnot on tne— actually go further and i'd say that on the first— actually go further and i'd say that on the first day back to eenoot— that on the first day back to eenoot-tne — that on the first day back to school the coronation on school after the coronation on tueetoy— school after the coronation on tueetoy, tne — school after the coronation on tuesday, the 9th— school after the coronation on tuesday, the 9th of may, every eenoot— tuesday, the 9th of may, every school should— tuesday, the 9th of may, every school should have an assembly for school should have an assembly tor tne— school should have an assembly for the entire— school should have an assembly for the entire school population.- for the entire school population. the for the entire school— population.-the headmaster population. and the headmaster or headmistress— population. and the headmaster or headmistress should lead tnetr— or headmistress should lead their entire— or headmistress should lead their entire school in the oath of allegiance. _ their entire school in the oath of allegiance. and also in etnptnp— of allegiance. and also in etnptnp tne— of allegiance. and also in singing the national anthem. you know,— singing the national anthem. you know, american— singing the national anthem. you know, american children do this every— every day. they pledge allegiance— every day. they pledge allegiance to- every day. they pledge allegiance to the flag. surely every day. they pledge allechildren) the flag. surely every day. they pledge allechildren cant flag. surely every day. they pledge allechildren can do ag. surely every day. they pledge allechildren can do it. surely every day. they pledge allechildren can do it oncetly every day. they pledge allechildren can do it once in our children can do it once in wet— our children can do it once in tnetr twee— our children can do it once in their lives to _ our children can do it once in their lives to mark the coronation— their lives to mark the coronation because the coronotton— coronation because the coronation at- coronation because the coronation at its core is a contract— coronation at its core is a contract between the king and the contract between the king and tne peopte— contract between the king and tne peopte .— contract between the king and tne peopte . ant— contract between the king and the people . and the king is the people. and the king is going— the people. and the king is gotng to— the people. and the king is going to devote— the people. and the king is going to devote entire life going to devote his entire life ont— going to devote his entire life ent note— going to devote his entire life ent note on— going to devote his entire life and make an oath fact to and make an oath to that fact to eewe— and make an oath to that fact to eewe tne— and make an oath to that fact to eene tne peopte. — and make an oath to that fact to serve the people. but a contract reputree— serve the people. but a contract reputree two— serve the people. but a contract requires two people. traditionally, the people in the abbey— traditionally, the people in the abbey represent— traditionally, the people in the abbey represent the nation . but abbey represent the nation. but this abbey represent the nation. but we re— abbey represent the nation. but we te o— abbey represent the nation. but we te o prett— abbey represent the nation. but this is a great way— abbey represent the nation. but this is a great way in the rnoernt— this is a great way in the modern-world- this is a great way in the modern world not only the modern for world not only the peopte— modern for world not only the people-britain,— modem for world not only the people-britain,-in- modem for world not only the people britain, in all people in britain, but in all tne— people in britain, but in all tne reotne— people in britain, but in all the realms together

the realms to together come togetner— the realms to together come togetner ont— the realms to together come together and celebrate our great monotony— together and celebrate our great nonoreny . — together and celebrate our great monarchy. paul— together and celebrate our great monarchy. paul is— together and celebrate our great monarchy . t together and celebrate our great monarchy. t g monarchy. paul is rafe being quite romantic about this? will you be getting off your sofa , you be getting off your sofa, stopping what you're doing , stopping what you're doing, whatever you're doing on a saturday and pledging your allegiance to . king charles? allegiance to. king charles? well, i'll probably be welld, i'll probablydbe watching well, i'll probably be watching the coronation,— well, i'll probably be watching the coronation, but i'm no, i wont— the coronation, but i'm no, i wont te— the coronation, but i'm no, i won't be pledging my allegiance. toot.— won't be pledging my allegiance. toot. rt.— won't be pledging my allegiance. toot. tt. rt— won't be pledging my allegiance. look, if. if rafe— won't be pledging my allegiance. look, if. if rafe and— won't be pledging my allegiance. look, if. if rafe and others- look, if. if rafe and others wish to pledge their allegiance, then, of course, that's entirely up to them. and i wouldn't presume to suggest they should do otherwise . but equally, do otherwise. but equally, i don't think there should be any kind of undue coercion on people to take part in that kind of procedure either. i've got nothing against the royal family as individuals. um, i think actually they do work hard. they have the sort of existence , the have the sort of existence, the goldfish bowl existence that i wouldn't particularly like, but i'm against the principle of monarchy generally. i'm a mild republican. i'm not a fervent republican. i'm not a fervent republican . i'm a, republican. i'm not a fervent republican. i'm a, i'm a mild republican. i'm a, i'm a mild republican because i believe that the whole principle of

monarchy essentially is establishes what i would call an enforced social hierarchy , enforced social hierarchy, whereby the only way that you could rise to become head of state in our country is if you happen to be a particular happen to be of a particular bloodline rather than if you have skills . and you have the right skills. and you know, you, you get there on merit. so i believe in principle we should elect our head of merit. so i believe in principle we siinild elect our head of merit. so i believe in principle we siinild esameur head of merit. so i believe in principle we siinild esame wayzad of merit. so i believe in principle we siinild esame way thatf merit. so i believe in principle we siinild esame way that they state in the same way that they do other advanced do in numerous other advanced democracies in france , in the democracies in france, in the united states and so and you united states and so on. and you know what, emily? if charles iii wants to that election wants to stand in that election and if the people want to support luck, then it support him, good luck, then it will democratic , will it would be democratic, wouldn't it? and i would accept will it would be democratic, w0loutcome and i would accept will it would be democratic, w0loutcome and i welectionapt will it would be democratic, w0loutcome and i welection . the outcome of that election. pauli the outcome of that election. paul, i mean, royal family paul, i mean, the royal family we towe— paul, i mean, the royal family we towe ttnp— paul, i mean, the royal family we love king charles or hate ttnp— we love king charles or hate ttng enortee— we love king charles or hate king charles have much higher toworottttty— king charles have much higher favorability motty ratings than any potttteton— favorability motty ratings than any politician, any recent potttteton— any politician, any recent politician anyway. i mean, rafe , is politician anyway. i mean, rafe , te tnee— politician anyway. i mean, rafe , te tnere o— politician anyway. i mean, rafe , is there a bit— politician anyway. i mean, rafe , is there a bit of— politician anyway. i mean, rafe , is there a bit of a— politician anyway. i mean, rafe , is there a bit of a problem, tnouen— , is there a bit of a problem, tnouen .— , is there a bit of a problem, though , because— , is there a bit of a problem, though , because the majority of though, because the majority of the though, because the majority of tne country— though, because the majority of the country support the monotony,— the country support the monarchy, but king charles, has he monarchy, but king charles, has ne enet— monarchy, but king charles, has he earned enough— monarchy, but king charles, has he earned enough respect from

the he earned enough respect from tne entren— he earned enough respect from the british public— he earned enough respect from the british public to ask such a tntnpe— the british public to ask such a thing? because— the british public to ask such a thing? because you know, i have a thing? because you know, i have owery— thing? because you know, i have every potnotte— thing? because you know, i have a very patriotic following, by ont— a very patriotic following, by ent targe— a very patriotic following, by ent torge, on— a very patriotic following, by and large, on social media. i tweeter,— and large, on social media. i tweeted, would— and large, on social media. i tweeted, would you pledge your otteetonee— tweeted, would you pledge your otteptonee to— tweeted, would you pledge your allegiance to the— tweeted, would you pledge your allegiance to the king? will you pledge— allegiance to the king? will you ptetge your— allegiance to the king? will you pledge your allegiance to the king?— pledge your allegiance to the kin9?-0f_ pledge your allegiance to the ttnge-ot peopte- pledge your allegiance to the king? of people are saying king? lots of people are saying ttnp— king? lots of people are saying ttng enortee— king? lots of people are saying king charles, not— king? lots of people are saying king charles, not my king. i owed— king charles, not my king. i towet tne— king charles, not my king. i loved the late— king charles, not my king. i loved the late queen. but no to ttnp— loved the late queen. but no to ttng enortee. — loved the late queen. but no to king charles. 3p; king charles. personally, i think that , you know, the king think that, you know, the king is very much a king for the 21st century. if you think back to tne— century. if you think back to tne teete— century. if you think back to the 1980s, he _ century. if you think back to the 1980s, he was- rarz; ”g if you think back to the 1980s, he was being tortured— the 1980s, he was being ridiculed for— the 1980s, he was being ridiculed for so many issues and wnten— ridiculed for so many issues and causes, which now— ridiculed for so many issues and causes, which now are actually at tne— causes, which now are actually at the vanguard— causes, which now are actually at the vanguard of— causes, which now are actually at the vanguard of where society is. at the vanguard of where society te. so — at the vanguard of where society te. so r— at the vanguard of where society te. so r tntnt— at the vanguard of where society is. so i think he— at the vanguard of where society is. so i think he can be a king for is. so i think he can be a king tor ott— is. so i think he can be a king for all peoples,— is. so i think he can be a king for all peoples, but we must tt-e— for all peoples, but we must we tnponont— for all peoples, but we must it's important to— for all peoples, but we must it's important to remove the pereonottty— it's important to remove the personality from _ it's important to remove the personality from the office and for personality from the office and tor tne— personality from the office and for the institution— personality from the office and for the institution in just the way— for the institution in just the same way that— for the institution in just the same way that people can can note— same way that people can can note o— same way that people can can note o tooet— same way that people can can make a toast to— same way that people can can make a toast to the president of the make a toast to the president of tne-totter— make a toast to the president of the-rather than— make a toast to the president of the-rather than to,- make a toast to the president of the rather than to, say, the usa rather than to, say, trump— the usa rather than to, say, trunp or— the usa rather than to, say, trump or biden_ the usa rather than to, say, trump or biden don't trump or biden if they don't twe— trump or biden if they don't like—actually. like them. we're actually this is-constitution- like them. we're actually this is constitution and is about the constitution and it's is about the constitution and we not— is about the constitution and it's not about— is about the constitution and it's not about the it's it's not about the king. it's about— it's not about the king. it's trout—ant- it's not about the king. it's about—and the. it's not about the king. it's- about_and the crown is about the crown and the crown is the about the crown and the crown is tne—to— about the crown and the crown is tne—to tne— about the crown and the crown is tne—to tne to- about the crown and the crown is the—to the to the- the equivalent to the to the eout— the equivalent to the to the eoutlnon— the equivalent to the to the eoutlnon tn— the equivalent to the to the soul man in philosophy. it's soul of man in philosophy. it's the soul of man in philosophy. it's tne tne— soul of man in philosophy. it's the life force— soul of man in philosophy. it's the life force of— soul of man in philosophy. it's the life force of our state. twerytntng — the life force of our state. everything that we from the life force of our state.-

everything that we -from our everything that we have from our government— everything that we have from our government-civil- everything that we have from our government civil service government to our civil service , toretgn— government to our civil service , toretgn eentee— government to our civil service , foreign service, police, nttttory— , foreign service, police, nttttory .— , foreign service, police, nttttory , our- , foreign service, police, military , our prisons, military, our prisons, everytntno- military, our prisons, everything, all the authority comes from the— everything, all the authority comes from the crown. and it's tnportont— comes from the crown. and it's tnponont tnot— comes from the crown. and it's important that we _ comes from the crown. and it's important that we actually engage— important that we actually engage constitution . engage with the constitution. ant— engage with the constitution. ant tnere — engage with the constitution. ant tnere te— engage with the constitution. and there is no— engage with the constitution. and there is no more important rnornent— and there is no more important moment constitution than moment in our constitution than the moment in our constitution than tne—to— moment in our constitution than tne—to oetuotty- the coronation to actually understand— the coronation to actually understand what the role of the monotony— understand what the role of the monotony te. — understand what the role of the monarchy is. and— understand what the role of the monarchy is. and is not monarchy is. and that is not iuet— monarchy is. and that is not iuet o— monarchy is. and that is not ruet o eoop— monarchy is. and that is not just a soap opera- monarchy is. and that is not just a soap opera with harry and merton— just a soap opera with harry and wegnon-tt— just a soap opera with harry and wegnon-tt-o- just a soap opera with harry and meghan-it-a vitally. meghan, but it plays a vitally tnponont— meghan, but it plays a vitally tnponont-tn— meghan, but it plays a vitally important-in our- meghan, but it plays a vitally important in our country. important role in our country. ant— important role in our country. ant-protten— important role in our country. and-problem we- important role in our country. and problem we have with so and the problem we have with so many— and the problem we have with so nony—eepeetottyl many people today, especially wttn— many people today, especially wttn-younger— many people today, especially. with .younger-they with our younger people, is they orent— with our younger people, is they oren-t-otout— with our younger people, is they aren't about because aren't taught about this because at aren't taught about this because ot—tney-re— aren't taught about this because at_they're taught- at school that they're taught tnot— at school that they're taught that-monarchy- at school that they're taught that monarchy at at school that they're taught- that. monarchy - at the that the monarchy stands at the ptnnoete— that the monarchy stands at the ptnnoete ot— that the monarchy stands at the pinnacle of patriarchy and white pnwtege— pinnacle of patriarchy and white pnwtege ont— pinnacle of patriarchy and white privilege and is— pinnacle of patriarchy and white privilege and is stained by etowery— privilege and is stained by etowery ont— privilege and is stained by slavery and colonialism rather tnon— slavery and colonialism rather tnon oetuotty— slavery and colonialism rather than actually showing the really tuntonentot— than actually showing the really fundamental role— than actually showing the really fundamental role that it plays in fundamental role that it plays tneeouee-n- fundamental role that it plays in - because the - fundamental role that it plays in because the world's in our life. because the world's noet— in our life. because the world's most progressive,— in our life. because the world's most progressive, most advanced ounttee— most progressive, most advanced ounntee ore— most progressive, most advanced countries are monarchies auetrotto— countries are monarchies australia, canada, denmark , australia, canada, denmark, norway,— australia, canada, denmark, norway, sweden, belgium , japan, norway, sweden, belgium, japan, entan— norway, sweden, belgium, japan, nrttotn. wo— norway, sweden, belgium, japan, britain. no one— norway, sweden, belgium, japan, britain. no one says that these are antiquated— britain. no one says that these are antiquated and in fact, the noet— are antiquated and in fact, the noet tt-e— are antiquated and in fact, the noet tt-e tne— are antiquated and in fact, the most it's the stability of the crown— most it's the stability of the crown tnot— most it's the stability of the crown that enables societies to enonge— crown that enables societies to change dramatically socially. rout— change dramatically socially. rout rt— change dramatically socially. rout rt you— change dramatically socially. paul if you care— change dramatically socially.

paul if you care about social eoneeton— paul if you care about social eoneeton .— paul if you care about social cohesion , unity,— paul if you care about social cohesion , unity, presumably in cohesion, unity, presumably in we— cohesion, unity, presumably in we country,— cohesion, unity, presumably in this country, you'd like people to teet— this country, you'd like people to teet prout— this country, you'd like people to feel proud of— this country, you'd like people to feel proud of their country . to feel proud of their country. he to feel proud of their country. we ueee— to feel proud of their country. we toes not. — to feel proud of their country. he does not. the— to feel proud of their country. he does not. the monarch pledging allegiance to the monarch, does that not symbolise as more than just a declaration towards king charles? it's about more than that . as rafe says, more than that. as rafe says, it's about supporting an institution that has kept continuity for generations . continuity for generations. ian's no, i don't really buy it, to be honest . i mean, look, you to be honest. i mean, look, you count,— to be honest. i mean, look, you eoutt, you— to be honest. i mean, look, you could, you know— to be honest. i mean, look, you could, you know ,_ i mean, look, you could, you know , ralph talks could, you know, ralph talks about— could, you know, ralph talks about tne— could, you know, ralph talks about the constitutional monotony— about the constitutional nonoreny .— about the constitutional monarchy . monarchy is about the constitutional monarchy. monarchy is . about the constitutional monarchy . monarchy is . oh, monarchy. monarchy is. oh, rout-e— monarchy. monarchy is. oh, rout-e gone— monarchy. monarchy is. oh, paul's gone there. t a paul's gone there. rafe i'll come back. oh is paul there? paul i'm just going to hold you for a second because your line is messed there is a little bit messed up. there rafe you talked about having assemblies in schools . i saw assemblies in schools. i saw that schools are actually teaching about the coronation in the curriculum. they've been told by the government, i

believe, or the department for education at least that in schools now they must teach about what the coronation is, what it means for the country , what it means for the country, etcetera, etcetera. is that a good thing ? it's a wonderful good thing? it's a wonderful tntttotwe— good thing? it's a wonderful tntttotwe .— good thing? it's a wonderful initiative . is— good thing? it's a wonderful initiative . is it— g: "g? it's a wonderful initiative . is it comes far too initiative. is it comes far too we — initiative. is it comes far too we snoutt— initiative. is it comes far too late. should i— initiative. is it comes far too late. should i say? and regrettotty— late. should i say? and regrettably, it's not compulsory . so— regrettably, it's not compulsory . so we— regrettably, it's not compulsory . so we re— regrettably, it's not compulsory .so this is just— regrettably, it's not compulsory . so this is just advisory .so this is just advisory teeeone— .so this is just advisory lessons that— .so this is just advisory lessons that can be given. and the lessons that can be given. and tne—eoureel lessons that can be given. and tne—eouree ,| lessons that can be given. andi tne—eouree , te the problem here, of course, is wet— the problem here, of course, is tnot tewer— the problem here, of course, is that fewer than— the problem here, of course, is that fewer than 10% of teachers totoy— that fewer than 10% of teachers totoy vote— that fewer than 10% of teachers today vote conservative or cente— today vote conservative or eente nont— today vote conservative or centre right parties. there's teen— centre right parties. there's teen o— centre right parties. there's teen o wowe— centre right parties. there's been a woke takeover of our eenoote. — been a woke takeover of our schools. and _ been a woke takeover of our schools. and so— been a woke takeover of our schools. and so instead of being touont— schools. and so instead of being tougnt otout— schools. and so instead of being taught about civic— schools. and so instead of being taught about civic institutions ont— taught about civic institutions ent tne— taught about civic institutions and the value— taught about civic institutions and the value of— taught about civic institutions and the value of things such as the and the value of things such as tne monotony— and the value of things such as the monarchy and— and the value of things such as the monarchy and parliamentary tenoeroey— the monarchy and parliamentary tenoeroey ont— the monarchy and parliamentary democracy and constitutional monotony,— democracy and constitutional monarchy, they're taught about erttteot— monarchy, they're taught about critical-theory— monarchy, they're taught about critical theory and as i critical race theory and as i ent,— critical race theory and as i arr, tney-re— critical race theory and as i said, they're told about the eth— said, they're told about the ent-ot— said, they're told about the evil-of britain- said, they're told about the evil of britain and the evil role of britain and the monotony— evil role of britain and the monarchy and— evil role of britain and the monarchy and you know what was among,— monarchy and you know what was oneztno—tne- monarchy and you know what was amazing,_the when| monarchy and you know what was amrgovernment the when monarchy and you know what was amrgovernment announced when monarchy and you know what was amrgovernment announced this n the government announced this teeteton—peoptei decision about teaching people about— decision about teaching people about about— decision about teaching people about about the— decision about teaching people about about the role of the monotony— about about the role of the monarchy and— about about the role of the monarchy and the coronation, you had monarchy and the coronation, you r..r_,_ monarchy and the coronation, you r..r_, you— monarchy and the coronation, you r..r_, you know,- monarchy and the coronation, you had-, you know, that- had republic, you know, that nteerotte— had republic, you know, that miserable-of- miserable bunch of anti—monarchist anoraks who miserable bunch of— anti—monarchist anoraks who were otwoye— anti—monarchist anoraks who were otwoye gtunty— anti—monarchist anoraks who were always glumly protest royal gotnennge.— always glumly protest royal gatherings. they said they were going— gatherings. they said they were going to— gatherings. they said they were gotng to tote— gatherings. they said they were going to take this— gatherings. they said they were going to take this the courts

going to take this to the courts -_vou_ going to take this to the courts .—you tnogtne- . i mean, can you imagine getttng— . i mean, can you imagine getttng-up- . i mean, can you imaginei getting-up about getting so worked up about teoentng— getting so worked up about| teaching—the teaching children about the constitutional— teaching children about the constitutional installation of wet— constitutional installation of tnetr nett— constitutional installation of their head of— constitutional installation of their head of state america? constitutional installation of their dotd of state america? constitutional installation of their do just state america? constitutional installation of their do just the te america? constitutional installation of their do just the sametmerica? constitutional installation of their do just the same thing a? they do just the same thing about— they do just the same thing about installation of the or about the installation of the or the inauguration— about the installation of the or the inauguration the the inauguration of the preettent— the inauguration of the preettent .— the inauguration of the president . i- the inauguration of the president . i don't see why president. i don't see why in tnte—eol president. i don't see why in- tnte—eo angry this country people get so angry and motivated— this country people get so angry and motivated about a simple eetetratton— and motivated about a simple celebration of— and motivated about a simple celebration of our constitution ant— celebration of our constitution ant ot— celebration of our constitution ant ot tne— celebration of our constitution and of the role— celebration of our constitution and of the role of— celebration of our constitution and of the role of the monarchy at tne— and of the role of the monarchy at tne cente— and of the role of the monarchy at the centre and— and of the role of the monarchy at the centre and the core of tnat— at the centre and the core of tnatlr-we— at the centre and the core of that-i've said,— at the centre and the core of that i've said, you know, the that as i've said, you know, the un that as i've said, you know, the raw-tne— that as i've said, you know, the uw-tne teet— that as i've said, you know, the un the best countries in un lists the best countries in tne— un lists the best countries in tne wont— un lists the best countries in the world -the - un lists the best countries in the world the majority the world to live the majority of the world to live the majority ot tnoee — the world to live the majority of those countries are actually rneonantee— of those countries are actually monarchies,_notl monarchies, monarchy is not anttguatet— monarchies, monarchy is not antiquated—holdj antiquated and doesn't hold a natton— antiquated and doesn't hold a natton tact.— antiquated and doesn't hold a nation back. it— antiquated and doesn't hold a nation back. it brings it togetner— nation back. it brings it togetner .— nation back. it brings it together . and we have together. and we don't have an tntepentenee— together. and we don't have an. independence—it independence day to celebrate it or a naetttte— independence day to celebrate it or a bastille day— independence day to celebrate it or a bastille day do or a bastille day like they do in or a bastille day like they do tn trane — or a bastille day like they do in france. it's— or a bastille day like they do in france. it's those rare occasions like- in france. it's those rare occasions like jubilees and eoonatone— occasions like jubilees and coronations , that bring us coronations, that bring us togetner— coronations, that bring us togetner ae— coronations, that bring us together as a— coronations, that bring us together as a people to create tnat— together as a people to create tnat eoetat— together as a people to create that social cohesion and a sense of that social cohesion and a sense ot nattonat— that social cohesion and a sense of national identity— that social cohesion and a sense of national identity . �*" of national identity. if you wate— of national identity. if you mate tne— of national identity. if you make the case— of national identity. if you make the case for monarchy like no other, thank you very much to you, heydel—mankoo and you, rafe heydel—mankoo and trade unionist and broadcaster paul embry there, whose line went a whiff, but we went a bit skew whiff, but we got was saying. me got what he was saying. let me know what you think. it know what you think. is it all a bit naff? do you want pledge bit naff? do you want to pledge allegiance to the would

bit naff? do you want to pledge alle pledgeto the would bit naff? do you want to pledge alle pledge allegiance would bit naff? do you want to pledge alle pledge allegiance ifa/ould bit naff? do you want to pledge alle pledge allegiance if itruld bit naff? do you want to pledge alle pledge allegiance if it was you pledge allegiance if it was prince william and kate who were there on the day? i think lot there on the day? i think a lot of people would more of people would have more excitement , i must excitement about that, i must say. gb views. say. do let me know. gb views. gbnews.uk but before we move on today, during a discussion about the guardians cartoon of former bbc chairman richard sharp on yesterday's gb news saturday, it was mistakenly stated, and we must say this, that it had been drawn by michael rosen . this was drawn by michael rosen. this was an error and we apologise to mr rosen for any misunderstanding you are watching and listening to gb news sunday with me. emily carvel. we've got lots more coming up on today's show in just a moment, we will be heading live to hyde park, where a woman speak event is taking place . i'll be joined by kelly place. i'll be joined by kelly j. keane, founder of standing for women who's been speaking at the rally. but first, get to the rally. but first, we get to her. let's take a look the her. let's take a look at the weather . hello and weather with marco. hello and welcome-latest- weather with marco. hello andi welcome-latest weather welcome to your latest weather uptate— welcome to your latest weather uptate tron — welcome to your latest weather update from the— welcome to your latest weather update from the met office. i'm maroo— update from the met office. i'm aaareo tetagna— update from the met office. i'm marco petagna. showers will update from the met office. i'm marctto'etagna. showers will update from the met office. i'm marctto easeia. showers will update from the met office. i'm marctto ease acrosswers will update from the met office. i'm marctto ease across the; will update from the met office. i'm marctto ease across the ukll update from the met office. i'm marctto ease across the uk over start to ease across the uk over tne— start to ease across the uk over tne-rew— start to ease across the uk over tne-tew-ant— start to ease across the uk over the few and weather the next few days and weather wit— the next few days and weather wit-town— the next few days and weather will down certainly will quieten down certainly towarte— towards the middle of the coming

week— towards the middle of the coming weean—tnee- week before rain arrives from tne—agatnl week before rain arrives from i the—again later. the southwest. once again later. it's the southwest. once again later. rte-ot— the southwest. once again later. it's-of-pressure- the southwest. once again later. it's-of-pressure ,. it's this area of low pressure, tne— it's this area of low pressure, the occluded— it's this area of low pressure, the occluded front moving out towarte— the occluded front moving out towards-east,— the occluded front moving out towards east, taking towards the east, taking its enowee— towards the east, taking its showers allowing showers with it, allowing a ntge— showers with it, allowing a rttge ot— showers with it, allowing a ridge of pressure build ridge of hiin pressure to build in ridge of high pressure to build| tn—tnrougn in for a time as we go through tne— the coming week before. low preeeure nere— the coming week before. low pressure here out— the coming week before. low pressure here out towards the weet—tnngtngl west arrives later, bringing a runner— west arrives later, bringing a runner ran— west arrives later, bringing a further rain in— west arrives later, bringing a further rain in the further rain in from the south—west,- south—west, certainly from tnuretay— south—west, certainly from thursday onwards. the thursday onwards. back to the tetatt—anti detail for this evening and owerntgtt— detail for this evening and overnight. and— detail for this evening and overnight. and have overnight. and we have a thunderstorm _ thunderstorm warning in force across northern ireland. soutnern— across northern ireland. southern -of - across northern ireland. southern of scotland across northern ireland.- southern -of scotland until southern parts of scotland until 9:00— southern parts of scotland until eeoe-evang— southern parts of scotland until 9:00 evening. showers, 9:00 this evening. most showers, tnougn— 9:00 this evening. most showers, tnougn|etantng— 9:00 this evening. most showers, though starting ease across though, starting to ease across nonnweetern— though, starting to ease across northwestern overnight northwestern areas overnight wttn— northwestern areas overnight wttn-tne— northwestern areas overnighti with -the -clear with more in the way of clear epette— with more in the way of clear epette-nere. - with more in the way of clear spells-here. but- with more in the way of clear spells here. but notice spells around here. but notice etttt— spells around here. but noticei etttt—aeroee still quite a few showers across eentrat—parte- central and eastern parts of tngtant— central and eastern parts of england showery central and eastern parts of- england-showery rain england and some showery rain ateo— england and some showery rain ateo nowng— england and some showery rain also moving-into- england and some showery rain also moving into parts of also moving south into parts of nortnern— also moving south into parts of northern scotland _ also moving south into parts of northern scotland in the clear epette—tne- northern scotland in the clear spells—the west.i spells out towards the west. temperatures— spells out towards the west. . temperatures_ get temperatures could locally get town— temperatures could locally get town tnto— temperatures could locally get down into - single - temperatures could locally get down into single figures, temperatures could locally get dowgenerally single figures, temperatures could locally get dowgenerally holdingfigures, temperatures could locally get dowgenerally holding upires, temperatures could locally get dowgenerally holding up in;, temperatures could locally get dowgenerally holding up in the but generally holding up in the range— but generally holding up in the range 6— but generally holding up in the range to to— but generally holding up in the range to to rt— but generally holding up in the range 6 to 11 celsius. as for monday— range 6 to 11 celsius. as for monday tant— range 6 to 11 celsius. as for monday, bank holiday, monday, of gutte— monday, bank holiday, monday, of gutte a— monday, bank holiday, monday, of course, quite a few— monday, bank holiday, monday, of course, quite a few showers etttt— course, quite a few showers etttt to— course, quite a few showers still to contend _ course, quite a few showers still to contend with across eentrat— still to contend with acrossi eentrat—pane central, south eastern parts of tngtana— central, south eastern parts of. tngtana—nere central, south eastern parts of- tngtana—nere tn england. some heavy ones here in the england. some heavy ones here in tne-ant— england. some heavy ones here in tne-ant eoe- england. some heavy ones here in the and some showery the afternoon and some showery ran— the afternoon and some showery ateo— the afternoon and some showery ateo nowng— the afternoon and some showery rain also moving across rain also moving south across pane— rain also moving south across parts-scotland— rain also moving south across parts scotland through parts of scotland through the gay. — parts of scotland through the| tay. —tne day. whereas out towards the weet— day. whereas out towards the west south—west, west and south—west, a much better— west and south—west, a much better day— west and south—west, a much better day here— west and south—west, a much better day here than on sunday, more—sunshine. more in the way of sunshine aount— more in the way of sunshine arount ant— more in the way of sunshine arount ant tn— more in the way of sunshine around and in the sunshine. tenperaturee— around and in the sunshine.. temperatures—quite temperatures still doing quite

wett—upl temperatures still doing quitei wett—up to well for the time of year, up to 18 well for the time of year, up to to or— well for the time of year, up to re orltegreee— well for the time of year, up to 18 or degrees towards 18 or 19 degrees down towards the south—east.— 18 or 19 degrees down towards the south—east. still chilly, tnougn—tar- though, towards the far north—east— though, towards the far north—east scotland as we go north—east of scotland as we go tnougn— north—east of scotland as we go tnrougn tne— north—east of scotland as we go through the evening and owerntgnt— through the evening and overnight period on monday. stit— overnight period on monday. stttt eoe— overnight period on monday. still some showers to contend wttn—tar- still some showers to contend wttn—tar taeti still some showers to contend. with—far east of with out towards the far east of the with out towards the far east of tne—ewer- the uk, but becoming fewer and turtner— the uk, but becoming fewer and further between— the uk, but becoming fewer and further between 1— the uk, but becoming fewer and further between 1 or 2 showers etttt— further between 1 or 2 showers still towards— further between 1 or 2 showers still towards the _ further between 1 or 2 showers still towards the far northeast tnere— still towards the far northeast tnerelwett. — still towards the far northeast. there .well. _whole, there as well. but on the whole, it's there as well. but on the whole, tt-e-pteture. — there as well. but on the whole, it's-picture. one- there as well. but on the whole, it's-picture. one the- it's a drier picture. one the way— it's a drier picture. one the way-epette- it's a drier picture. one the way spells around it's a drier picture. one the- way-spells around and way of clear spells around and note— way of clear spells around and nottee tne— way of clear spells around and notice the blue— way of clear spells around and notice the blue colours there on way of clear spells around and notichartz blue colours there on way of clear spells around and notichart indicatingrurs there on way of clear spells around and notichart indicating some ere on way of clear spells around and notichart indicating some chilly the chart indicating some chilly tenperaturee— the chart indicating some chilly temperatures-of- temperatures for parts of soottant— temperatures for parts of scotland by— temperatures for parts of scotland by tuesday morning. tueetay— scotland by tuesday morning. tuesday itself— scotland by tuesday morning. tuesday itself looks a quieter tay. —ntgn- tuesday itself looks a quieter day. high pressure day. a ridge of high pressure etarttng— day. a ridge of high pressure etarttng to— day. a ridge of high pressure starting to-in- day. a ridge of high pressure starting to in the starting to build in from the weet— starting to build in from the weet .— starting to build in from the weet lrnore— starting to build in from the west ,.more-way. west, so more in the way of eunenrne— west, so more in the way of sunshine. around- west, so more in the way of sunshine. around 1 or 2 showers, natnty—tari mainly confined towards the far nortn—eaet— mainly confined towards the far north—east perhaps some cloud| aoee— parte across southern scotland, parts of across southern scotland, parts ot—eentrat- across southern scotland, partsi of_central england of northern and central england . nut— of northern and central england . out on— of northern and central england . out on tne— of northern and central england . but on the whole, certainly of northern and central england . but onthe whole, certainly of northern and central england . but onthe whole,brightnly more in the way of bright weatner— more in the way of bright- weather—temperatures weather around and temperatures still weather around and temperatures etttt—wett— weather around and temperatures etttt—wett tn- still doing quite well in the eunentne— still doing quite well in the. sunshine—sunshine sunshine with further sunshine to-on— sunshine with further sunshine to-on wednesday- to come on wednesday across the uk to come on wednesday across the wt tetore— to come on wednesday across the wt tetore ratn— to come on wednesday across the uk before rain arrives from the eoutnweet— uk before rain arrives from the southwest later— uk before rain arrives from the southwest later in— uk before rain arrives from the southwest later in the week.

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wttn ne— welcome back to gb news sunday wttn ne .— welcome back to gb news sunday wttn ne , entry— welcome back to gb news sunday with me , emily carver on your tv with me, emily carver on your tv ontne— with me, emily carver on your tv onttne ant— with me, emily carver on your tv online and digital— with me, emily carver on your tv online and digital radio. now the online and digital radio. now tne-rtgnte- online and digital radio. now the-rights group- the women's rights group stanttng— the women's rights group standing for— the women's rights group standing for women is holding a let standing for women is holding a tet women— standing for women is holding a let women speak— standing for women is holding a let women speak event in hyde tart— let women speak event in hyde tart rtgnt— let women speak event in hyde tart rtgnt now— let women speak event in hyde park right now. actually, you may— park right now. actually, you may nave— park right now. actually, you may have heard— park right now. actually, you may have heard of the group's tounten— may have heard of the group's founder,-keene,- may have heard of the group's founder, keene, because founder, kelly keene, because ene-e— founder, kelly keene, because ene-e taeet— founder, kelly keene, because she's faced abuse— founder, kelly keene, because she's faced abuse across the wont— she's faced abuse across the worttltne — she's faced abuse across the world-the hands- she's faced abuse across the world the hands of trans world at the hands of trans rtgnte— world at the hands of trans rwne-.— world at the hands of trans rtgnte-. ene- world at the hands of trans rights-. one of- world at the hands of trans rights . one of kelly rights activists. one of kelly j'5 rights activists. one of kelly te vente— rights activists. one of kelly j's events. new- rights activists. one of kelly j's events new zealand even j's events in new zealand even nat— j's events in new zealand even nat to— j's events in new zealand even nat to te— j's events in new zealand even nat to be out— j's events in new zealand even had to be cut-last- j's events in new zealand even had to be cut last month had to be cut short last month arter— had to be cut short last month atter ene— had to be cut short last month after she was— had to be cut short last month after she was mobbed. there's the after she was mobbed. there's tne pteturee— after she was mobbed. there's the pictures on— after she was mobbed. there's the pictures on the screen and after she was mobbed. there's the eggs'es on the screen and after she was mobbed. there's the eggs andn the screen and after she was mobbed. there's the eggs and juice screen and after she was mobbed. there's the eggs and juice thrown and after she was mobbed. there's the eggs and juice thrown atd had eggs and juice thrown at ten — had eggs and juice thrown at ten tn— had eggs and juice thrown at ten tn gtat— had eggs and juice thrown at her. i'm glad to— had eggs and juice thrown at her. i'm glad to say that. joining— her. i'm glad to say that. rornrng ne— her. i'm glad to say that. joining me now is the founder tenet,— joining me now is the founder herself, kelly— joining me now is the founder herself, kelly j.— joining me now is the founder herself, kelly j. keene kelly j. tnant— herself, kelly j. keene kelly j. tnant you— herself, kelly j. keene kelly j. tnant you very— herself, kelly j. keene kelly j. thank you very indeed . so thank you very much indeed. so you-re— thank you very much indeed. so you town— thank you very much indeed. so you're down-park- thank you very much indeed. so you're down park holding you're down at hyde park holding a raw.— you're down at hyde park holding a ray. wnat-e— you're down at hyde park holding a rally. what's been happening ? a rally. what's been happening? wnat— a rally. what's been happening? wnat nave— a rally. what's been happening? what have been— a rally. what's been happening? what have been the highlights . what have been the highlights. wett— what have been the highlights. wett. rust— what have been the highlights. war, rust tne— what have been the highlights. war, ruet the a— what have been the highlights. well, just the a number- what have been the highlights. well, just the a number of- well, just the a number of people that have made it for the first time. so we normally get a goot— first time. so we normally get a good collection _ first time. so we normally get a good collection of— �*" g so we normally get a good collection of about 300 women and men— good collection of about 300 women and men . and today i think women and men. and today i think it's women and men. and today i think tt-e a— women and men. and today i think tt-e a target— women and men. and today i think it's a larger number— women and men. and today i think it's a larger number and many of tnoee— it's a larger number and many of tnoee peopte— it's a larger number and many of those people have— it's a larger number and many of those people have actually come for those people have actually come tor tne— those people have actually come tor tne ttret— those people have actually come for the first time— those people have actually come for the first time any scuffles, anv— for the first time any scuffles, any etgn— for the first time any scuffles, any etgn ot— for the first time any scuffles, any etgn or any— for the first time any scuffles, any sign of any counter—protests wnateoever— any sign of any counter—protests whatsoever because, of course, you— whatsoever because, of course, you —

whatsoever because, of course, you wett— whatsoever because, of course, you wett .— whatsoever because, of course, you were well , you got into you were well, you got into a bit you were well, you got into a ttt ot— you were well, you got into a bit of trouble— you were well, you got into a bit of trouble in— you were well, you got into a bit of trouble in new zealand , bit of trouble in new zealand, but bit of trouble in new zealand, tut te— bit of trouble in new zealand, tut te rt— bit of trouble in new zealand, tut te tt a— bit of trouble in new zealand, but is it a nicer— bit of trouble in new zealand, but is it a nicer atmosphere nere— but is it a nicer atmosphere nere tn— but is it a nicer atmosphere here in london— but is it a nicer atmosphere here in london today. but is it a nicer atmosphere here in london today . / here in london today. yeah, but onty— here in london today. yeah, but only because of the good work of the met police. actually there's the met police. actually there's the presence here is huge . the presence here is huge. there's about 15 police vans. so ant— there's about 15 police vans. so ant tnee— there's about 15 police vans. so ant tnere are— there's about 15 police vans. so and there are kind— there's about 15 police vans. so and there are kind protesters wno— and there are kind protesters wno are— and there are kind protesters who are working— and there are kind protesters who are working very hard to tterupt— who are working very hard to tterupt tne— who are working very hard to disrupt the event. but the potte— disrupt the event. but the police have got a very good handle on it. i'm really tnpreeeet— handle on it. i'm really impressed. now,- handle on it. i'm really impressed. now, i- : 0 i'm really impressed. now, i think a lot of tte— impressed. now, i think a lot of women like me— impressed. now, i think a lot of women like me yourself who women like the and yourself who are women like me and yourself who very— women like me and yourself who very worrtet— women like me and yourself who are very worried about the extremes of— are very worried about the extremes of the- are very worried about the extremes of the transgender movement, of— extremes of the transgender movement, of the ideology , we movement, of the ideology, we are movement, of the ideology, we teeontng— movement, of the ideology, we are becoming better at speaking up, are becoming better at speaking .p, more— are becoming better at speaking up, more comfortable with epeattng— up, more comfortable with epeattng up. — up, more comfortable with speaking up. '”rz; �*" r: g speaking up. are you finding that the women who come there for the first time, they're no longer afraid to speak up on this issue . well, i'd like to this issue. well, i'd like to say yes. i mean, more and more women are finding— «orzs i mean, more and more women are finding their courage to epeat— women are finding their courage to epeat up.— women are finding their courage to epeat up. ant— women are finding their courage to speak up. and it's absolutely iuet— to speak up. and it's absolutely iuetleat— to speak up. and it's absolutely just sad indictment of our just a sad indictment of our tnee— just a sad indictment of our ttnee tnat— just a sad indictment of our times that anyone is afraid to say— times that anyone is afraid to eay tnat— times that anyone is afraid to eay tnat tney— times that anyone is afraid to say that they don't men in

say that they don't want men in women's spaces. _ say that they don't want men in women's spaces. but i think it's the work of organisations like myself to be to be fair, that have really stretched the space in which women feel that they can speak . and it's just the can speak. and it's just the more women that speak out, the more women that speak out, the more comfort and space we give to other women to speak. oh, absolutely. i mean, i would like to want— absolutely. i mean, i would like to tank you— azey i mean, i would like to thank you personally , to thank you personally, aetuatty— to thank you personally, actually, for— to thank you personally, actually, for paving the way for peopte— actually, for paving the way for peopte ttte — actually, for paving the way for peopte ttte ne— actually, for paving the way for people like me and other women people like the and other women to people like me and other women to epeat— people like me and other women to epeat out— people like me and other women to epeat out on— people like me and other women to speak out on these issues tnat— to speak out on these issues tnat are— to speak out on these issues tnat eo— to speak out on these issues that are so worrying in this ttne— that are so worrying in this ttne .— that are so worrying in this time . certainly,- that are so worrying in this time . certainly, i think a lot time. certainly, i think a lot of time. certainly, i think a lot ot women— time. certainly, i think a lot of women would _ time. certainly, i think a lot of women would like to thank you as of women would like to thank you ae wett. — of women would like to thank you ae wett. nut— of women would like to thank you as well. but what— of women would like to thank you as well. but what are the main tnat— as well. but what are the main issues that women— as well. but what are the main issues that women at your rally totay— issues that women at your rally totay are— issues that women at your rally today are talking— issues that women at your rally today are talking about? is it tranegenter— today are talking about? is it transgender ideology in schools? is transgender ideology in schools? re tt— transgender ideology in schools? re tt wonen— transgender ideology in schools? is it women's sex— transgender ideology in schools? is it women's sex based spaces ? is it women's sex based spaces? is it women's sex based spaces? re wnat— is it women's sex based spaces? re wnat te— is it women's sex based spaces? is what is really— is it women's sex based spaces? is what is really getting people going— is what is really getting people gotng orgy,— is what is really getting people gotng totay, tnte— is what is really getting people going today, this afternoon . going today, this afternoon. wett— going today, this afternoon. wett. tt— going today, this afternoon. wett. tt wit— going today, this afternoon. well, it will be— going today, this afternoon. well, it will be any- going today, this afternoon. well, it will be any story that women have to tell where they're lives are impacted by this ideology. so lives are impacted by this ideology . so a few weeks ago, we ideology. so a few weeks ago, we had ideology. so a few weeks ago, we nat a— ideology. so a few weeks ago, we nat a taty— ideology. so a few weeks ago, we

had a lady called— 33 so a few weeks ago, we had a lady called natalie who eutteret— had a lady called natalie who eutteret a— had a lady called natalie who suffered a broken— had a lady called natalie who suffered a broken back at the nante— suffered a broken back at the nante ot— suffered a broken back at the hands of male— suffered a broken back at the hands of male violence, and she tattet— hands of male violence, and she tattet atout— hands of male violence, and she talked about not— hands of male violence, and she talked about not being able to tnetet— talked about not being able to tnetet on— talked about not being able to insist on female— talked about not being able to insist on female only care in ne— insist on female only care in net-none— insist on female only care in net-none or— insist on female only care in her- home or you- insist on female only care in her home or you had a young her own home or you had a young taty—now— her own home or you had a young taty—now atout- her own home or you had a young lady now about about lady speak just now about about her lady speak just now about about ner rape— lady speak just now about about ner rape tnat— lady speak just now about about her rape that she— lady speak just now about about her rape that she suffered and eurvtvet— her rape that she suffered and eurvtvet ant— her rape that she suffered and survived and how— her rape that she suffered and survived and how therefore she unteretante— survived and how therefore she understands what— survived and how therefore she understands what it means to nave— understands what it means to nave tenate— understands what it means to have female only— understands what it means to have female only space. g a have female only space. so it'll be a— have female only space. so it'll be a wtte— have female only space. so it'll be a wide range— have female only space. so it'll be a wide range of things. it will be children being- will be children being gaslit at eenoote— will be children being gaslit at schools sometimes we even have eenootgtrte— schools sometimes we even have eenootgtrte epeat— schools sometimes we even have schoolgirls speak ,_ schools sometimes we even have schoolgirls speak , talking about schoolgirls speak, talking about now— schoolgirls speak, talking about now tnete— schoolgirls speak, talking about how there might— schoolgirls speak, talking about how there might be boys in their epaee— how there might be boys in their epaeelnow— how there might be boys in their epaeelnow-not- space or how they're not enttttet— space or how they're not entitled even— space or how they're not entitled even to have female onty— entitled even to have female onty-anynore- entitled even to have female onty-anynore .- entitled even to have female only anymore . so that's, only sports anymore. so that's, vou— only sports anymore. so that's, you know,— only sports anymore. so that's, you know tt— only sports anymore. so that's, you know, it will— only sports anymore. so that's, you know, it will be a broad range— you know, it will be a broad range ot— you know, it will be a broad range of issues— you know, it will be a broad range of issues and kelly kelly, iuet— range of issues and kelly kelly, ruet iuet— range of issues and kelly kelly, we we taetty— range of issues and kelly kelly, just just lastly, before i let you— just just lastly, before i let you 90— just just lastly, before i let you go .— just just lastly, before i let you go , r— just just lastly, before i let you go , r ton-t— just just lastly, before i let you go , i don't know if you've you go, i don't know if you've tn— you go, i don't know if you've seen i'm sure you— you go, i don't know if you've seen i'm sure you have seen the us seen i'm sure you have seen the us etate— seen i'm sure you have seen the us state montana— seen i'm sure you have seen the us state montana is banning trane— us state montana is banning trans affirming— us state montana is banning trans affirming medical care. so trans affirming medical care. so preeunatty— trans affirming medical care. so presumably that- trans affirming medical care. so presumably that is- trans affirming medical care. so presumably that is hormone blockers, hormone treatment and surgery for under eighteens. would you like the british government to follow suit .

government to follow suit. absolutely. i mean, we don't do eurgery— absolutely. i mean, we don't do eurgery on— absolutely. i mean, we don't do eurgery on unter— absolutely. i mean, we don't do surgery on under eighteens anyway— surgery on under eighteens anyway wnen— surgery on under eighteens anyway when it— surgery on under eighteens anyway when it comes to the nutttatton— anyway when it comes to the mutilation of— anyway when it comes to the mutilation of children which i tntnt— mutilation of children which i tntnt te— mutilation of children which i tntnt te you— mutilation of children which i think is, you know, trans atttrntng— think is, you know, trans affirming care- think is, you know, trans affirming care is a misnomer wnen— affirming care is a misnomer wnen tt— affirming care is a misnomer wnen tt eornee— affirming care is a misnomer when it comes to— affirming care is a misnomer when it comes to kids. we really are dramatically— when it comes to kids. we really are dramatically in— when it comes to kids. we really are dramatically in irreversibly tanagtng— are dramatically in irreversibly damaging their— are dramatically in irreversibly damaging their their bodies. so i damaging their their bodies. so r woutt— damaging their their bodies. so r woutt tte— damaging their their bodies. so i would like to— damaging their their bodies. so i would like to see no puberty ttoetere— i would like to see no puberty ttoetere .— i would like to see no puberty ttoetere . r— i would like to see no puberty blockers . i don't— i would like to see no puberty blockers . i don't think anybody blockers. i don't think anybody enoutt— blockers. i don't think anybody should consent— blockers. i don't think anybody should consent ,_ blockers. i don't think anybody should consent, should be able to eoneet— should consent, should be able to eoneet on— should consent, should be able to consent on a— should consent, should be able to consent on a child's behalf to consent on a child's behalf to eratteate— to consent on a child's behalf to eradicate their— to consent on a child's behalf to eradicate their sexual tunetton— to eradicate their sexual function and— to eradicate their sexual function and fertility . function and fertility. thank you— function and fertility. thank you very— function and fertility. thank you very nuet— function and fertility. thank you very much indeed for your time. kelly j. keane. i hope your rally goes unimpeded by any, well problem makers . your rally goes unimpeded by any, well problem makers. thank you very much. trouble makers. thank you very much for your time. kelly keane there . of time. kelly j. keane there. of course, be other course, there will be other people have a very different course, there will be other peop on have a very different course, there will be other peop on imattertery different course, there will be other peop on imatter ,ery different course, there will be other peop on imatter , butiifferent course, there will be other peop on imatter , but lovelyt view on that matter, but lovely to see j. keane there to see kelly j. keane there rallying women for her cause. you have been you have been getting in touch. please do get in touch about what you think about you've about that rally. perhaps you've been to one yourself and experienced a bit of a counter—protest scuffle . who counter—protest scuffle. who knows? but you've been getting counter—protest scuffle. who kntouch3ut you've been getting counter—protest scuffle. who kntouch with ou've been getting counter—protest scuffle. who kntouch with oure been getting counter—protest scuffle. who kntouch with our bigeen getting counter—protest scuffle. who kntouch with our big topicetting counter—protest scuffle. who kntouch with our big topic ofng in touch with our big topic of the personally the day. would you personally pledge allegiance to king

charles? charles luke on twitter has said, i support people in the royal family when they give me the impression they're worth supporting. charles has never fallen into that bracket. i think that's a big issue. it's a personality problem . i think a personality problem. i think a lot of people if were, lot of people would if it were, say , king william. but perhaps say, king william. but perhaps not king charles yet anyway. jeff says, i'm a monarchist, but i pledging allegiance i won't be pledging allegiance as i think it's creepy and weirdly authoritarian unless your military. well, yes , some your military. well, yes, some people have said that it's a bit more than great more north korea than great britain stand up and britain to all stand up and pledge allegiance. but others disagree . andrew says it's just disagree. andrew says it's just a fun in these a bit of harmless fun in these times rising costs. what's times of rising costs. what's wrong with a break? and celebrating british culture ? we celebrating british culture? we spend too much time knocking ing our nation. i think that's quite right, too, judy says . of course right, too, judy says. of course i would pledge allegiance to the king, no question about it. there you go. positive from julie, though, who says she'll pledge allegiance to the king. please views coming please do keep your views coming in and while you're at it, subscribe to our youtube

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of rejected the government's offer ot a— rejected the government's offer ot a tte— rejected the government's offer or a 5% pay— rejected the government's offer or a 5% pay nee— rejected the government's offer of a 5% pay rise. great ormond street— of a 5% pay rise. great ormond street hospitals— of a 5% pay rise. great ormond street hospitals among organisations where nurses have agreet— organisations where nurses have agreet to— organisations where nurses have agreet to keep— organisations where nurses have agreed to keep limited staff on arter— agreed to keep limited staff on atter votetng— agreed to keep limited staff on after voicing serious concerns atout— after voicing serious concerns atout patent— after voicing serious concerns about patient safety during the wattout— about patient safety during the wattout .— about patient safety during the wattout, wus— about patient safety during the walkout, nhs england is urging the walkout, nhs england is urging tne putte— walkout, nhs england is urging tne puttte to— walkout, nhs england is urging the public to use— walkout, nhs england is urging the public to use the health eervtee— the public to use the health service wisely— the public to use the health service wisely .— the public to use the health service wisely . it said. service wisely. it said. tnergeney— service wisely. it said. emergency and urgent care would tne— emergency and urgent care would remain the priority— emergency and urgent care would remain the priority . five remain the priority. five peopte,— remain the priority. five people, including an eight year old people, including an eight year ott ontt— people, including an eight year old child, have— people, including an eight year old child, have been killed in a enoottng— old child, have been killed in a enoottng at— old child, have been killed in a enoottng at a— old child, have been killed in a shooting at a home in texas. orttetate— shooting at a home in texas. officials from _ shooting at a home in texas. officials from the san jacinto county— officials from the san jacinto county sheriff's— officials from the san jacinto county sheriff's office attended the county sheriff's office attended tne ene— county sheriff's office attended the scene after— county sheriff's office attended the scene after they received a catt— the scene after they received a cat atout— the scene after they received a call about harassment . several call about harassment. several wetne— call about harassment. several vtettne nat— call about harassment. several victims had been— call about harassment. several victims had been shot . by the victims had been shot. by the ttne— victims had been shot. by the ttne pottee— victims had been shot. by the time police arrived, the suspect is time police arrived, the suspect te arnet— time police arrived, the suspect te arnet ant— time police arrived, the suspect is armed and still— time police arrived, the suspect is armed and still on the run . is armed and still on the run. tne— is armed and still on the run. tne entren— is armed and still on the run. the british army— is armed and still on the run. the british army has begun reneareate— the british army has begun rehearsals for— the british army has begun rehearsals for the king's coronation. _ rehearsals for the king's coronation. soldiers from all ttvtetone— coronation. soldiers from all divisions of— coronation. soldiers from all divisions of the— coronation. soldiers from all divisions of the armed forces nave— divisions of the armed forces have gathered— divisions of the armed forces have gathered at— divisions of the armed forces have gathered at training areas eoutn— have gathered at training areas across south london to prepare for across south london to prepare tor tne— across south london to prepare tor tne ttggeet— across south london to prepare for the biggest ceremonial event of for the biggest ceremonial event ot tnetr— for the biggest ceremonial event of their lives.— for the biggest ceremonial event of their lives. they've flown none— of their lives. they've flown none tron — of their lives. they've flown home from operational duties or tratntng—

home from operational duties or training exercises— home from operational duties or training exercises from as far as training exercises from as far ae cyprue— training exercises from as far ae cyprue, rag— training exercises from as far as cyprus, iraq, kenya and tetonta— as cyprus, iraq, kenya and tetonta to— as cyprus, iraq, kenya and estonia to represent their regtnente— estonia to represent their regiments in— estonia to represent their regiments in corpse at the event . at— regiments in corpse at the event . at ant— regiments in corpse at the event . at ant tne— regiments in corpse at the event . at and the stone— regiments in corpse at the event . at and the stone of destiny . . at and the stone of destiny. he . at and the stone of destiny. we nae— . at and the stone of destiny. we nae teen— . at and the stone of destiny. he has been welcomed to england in he has been welcomed to england tn a— he has been welcomed to england tn a epeetat— he has been welcomed to england in a special ceremony ahead of the in a special ceremony ahead of tne event— in a special ceremony ahead of tne event .— in a special ceremony ahead of tne event . rt— in a special ceremony ahead of the event . it dates— in a special ceremony ahead of the event . it dates back to the the event. it dates back to the op.— the event. it dates back to the on century— the event. it dates back to the 12th century and— the event. it dates back to the 12th century and is normally on tteptay— 12th century and is normally on tteptay at— 12th century and is normally on display at edinburgh castle . it display at edinburgh castle. it wtt— display at edinburgh castle. it wttt ett— display at edinburgh castle. it will sit under— display at edinburgh castle. it will sit under the king's throne next— will sit under the king's throne next week— will sit under the king's throne next week and— will sit under the king's throne next week and has been used in eoonatone— next week and has been used in coronations-nearly- next week and has been used in coronations-nearly .- coronations for nearly. a tnoueant— coronations for nearly. a thousand years. tv online, dab+ tatto— thousand years. tv online, dab+ ratto ant— thousand years. tv online, dab+ ratto ant on— thousand years. tv online, dab+ radio and on tune— thousand years. tv online, dab+ radio and on tune in. this is gb wewe. — radio and on tune in. this is gb wewe. wow— radio and on tune in. this is gb wewe. wow tte— radio and on tune in. this is gb news. now it's back to . emily news. now it's back to. emily why— news. now it's back to. emily why on— news. now it's back to. emily wny on earth— news. now it's back to. emily wny on earth te— news. now it's back to. emily why on earth is there- news. now it's back to. emily why on earth is there a- news. now it's back to. emily why on earth is there a spike in sti cases on bank holidays? sorry if you've just tucked into your lunch but i'll be speaking to dating coach about that in to a dating coach about that in just one moment. stay tuned

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the people's channel britain is watching. yes. the people's channel britain is watching . yes. welcome back to watching. yes. welcome back to gb watching. yes. welcome back to en wewe— watching. yes. welcome back to gb news sunday— watching. yes. welcome back to gb news sunday with- f g yes. welcome back to gb news sunday with me, emily carver— gb news sunday with me, emily carver on— gb news sunday with me, emily carver on your— gb news sunday with me, emily carver on your tv— gb news sunday with me, emily carver on your tv and radio. so tne— carver on your tv and radio. so tne wus— carver on your tv and radio. so tne wns nae— carver on your tv and radio. so the nhs has issued a warning not for the nhs has issued a warning not tor not— the nhs has issued a warning not for hot weather— the nhs has issued a warning not for hot weather over the bank notttay— for hot weather over the bank holiday weekend, but for a surge in holiday weekend, but for a surge tn reporte— holiday weekend, but for a surge tn reporte ot— holiday weekend, but for a surge in reports of sexually transmitted- in reports of sexually transmitted infections . they say transmitted infections. they say wette— transmitted infections. they say vtette to— transmitted infections. they say visits to their— transmitted infections. they say visits to their website jumped up eete— visits to their website jumped up eete arter— visits to their website jumped up 38% after the— visits to their website jumped up 38% after the may, june and auguet— up 38% after the may, june and auguet tant— up 38% after the may, june and august bank holidays last year. so august bank holidays last year. so wnat— august bank holidays last year. so wnat te— august bank holidays last year. so wnat te tt— august bank holidays last year. so what is it about us brits tnat— so what is it about us brits tnat natee— so what is it about us brits that makes us— so what is it about us brits that makes us enjoy this bank notttaye— that makes us enjoy this bank holiday? perhaps— that makes us enjoy this bank holiday? perhaps a little too nucne— holiday? perhaps a little too much? joining— holiday? perhaps a little too much? joining me now is dating coacn— much? joining me now is dating coacn watta— much? joining me now is dating coach nadia essex— much? joining me now is dating coach nadia essex . nadia, you coach nadia essex. nadia, you get att— coach nadia essex. nadia, you get at tne— coach nadia essex. nadia, you get all the best— coach nadia essex. nadia, you get all the best topics to ttecuee. — get all the best topics to discuss. what— get all the best topics to discuss. what do you make of tnee— discuss. what do you make of tntee no— discuss. what do you make of tntee no we— discuss. what do you make of this? do we all— discuss. what do you make of this? do we all as— discuss. what do you make of this? do we all as brits , just this? do we all as brits, just toee— this? do we all as brits, just toee att— this? do we all as brits, just toee att ot— this? do we all as brits, just lose all of our— this? do we all as brits, just lose all of our inhibitions at tne— lose all of our inhibitions at tne tant— lose all of our inhibitions at the bank holiday and we've got gutte— the bank holiday and we've got gutte a— the bank holiday and we've got gutte a tot— the bank holiday and we've got quite a lot coming up. the bank holiday and we've got quite a lot coming up . / quite a lot coming up. yeah. i . r— quite a lot coming up. yeah. i . r tttnt— quite a lot coming up. yeah. i mean , i think it's very stark mean, i think it's very stark standard british to have a bank houday standard british to have a bank holiday have the sunshine drink and then have sex. i mean i think that's pretty. you don't

get much more british than that. but but it didn't actually say in the article whether or not it was like couples or single people . so i'm just going to people. so i'm just going to assume it's a lot of single people. and you know what? after lockdown down, i'm not surprised. think you should go surprised. i think you should go out fun and enjoy out there and have fun and enjoy yourself. but always , always use yourself. but always, always use protection. well yes, i think the number of stis went down a considerable amount, as would be expected during the pandemic. and now they're back with a veneanceg at— and now they're back with a vengeance. at least that's what wus— vengeance. at least that's what was tngtant— vengeance. at least that's what nhs england is— vengeance. at least that's what nhs england is worried about. i r— nhs england is worried about. i r toot— nhs england is worried about. i r toot a— nhs england is worried about. i mean, i took a train home yeetertay— mean, i took a train home yesterday evening and in true entren— yesterday evening and in true british well,— yesterday evening and in true british well, britishness , british well, britishness, peopte— british well, britishness, peopte — british well, britishness, people were absolutely legless. i people were absolutely legless. t can— people were absolutely legless. r onty— people were absolutely legless. i can only imagine that any any protectton— i can only imagine that any any protectton goee— i can only imagine that any any protection goes out of the wtntow. — protection goes out of the wtntow. so — protection goes out of the window. so as— protection goes out of the window. so as a dating coach, wnat— window. so as a dating coach, wnat woutt— window. so as a dating coach, what would you _ window. so as a dating coach, what would you say to the people of what would you say to the people ot nrttatne— what would you say to the people of britain? enjoy— what would you say to the people of britain? enjoy the bank notttay— of britain? enjoy the bank notttay, nut— of britain? enjoy the bank holiday, but oh , yes, always. holiday, but oh, yes, always. ant— holiday, but oh, yes, always. ant not— holiday, but oh, yes, always. ant not rust— holiday, but oh, yes, always. and not just on— holiday, but oh, yes, always. and not just on a— holiday, but oh, yes, always. and not just on a bank- holiday, but oh, yes, always. and not just on a bank holiday. every day. if you're going to engagein every day. if you're going to engage in sexual relations ons,

then wrap up. you know we've mean you know, there's just think we've learned enough over the years now to know that you know stis are real you can't stop them and there's nothing you can do unless you have protection. so enjoy the bank houday protection. so enjoy the bank holiday , enjoy the coronation holiday, enjoy the coronation that comes , but just don't get that comes, but just don't get carried away . now, i don't want carried away. now, i don't want to epreat— carried away. now, i don't want to epreat tate— carried away. now, i don't want to spread fake news,— f: now, i don't want to spread fake news, but i remember reading maybe a few nontne— remember reading maybe a few nontne ago— remember reading maybe a few months ago that— remember reading maybe a few months ago that that older peopte— months ago that that older peopte eo— months ago that that older people so pensioners were getttng— people so pensioners were getttng more— people so pensioners were getting more stis. is that rtgnte— getting more stis. is that rtgnte no— getting more stis. is that rtgnte no you— getting more stis. is that right? do you remember that ? right? do you remember that? wean.— right? do you remember that? wean. r— right? do you remember that? wean. r to. — right? do you remember that? wean. r to. ant— right? do you remember that? yeah, i do. and they- right? do you remember that? yeah, i do. and they i- right? do you remember that? yeah, i do. and they i mean, there was a study that came out. they were saying there was a report it's all the report that it's all the pensioners bonking that were causing a massive rise in stis and to the point where the could become overwhelmed . and i was become overwhelmed. and i was like, well, that's new. that's interesting . so, again, you interesting. so, again, you know, i love it, you know, but remember , when you have sex, remember, when you have sex, it's not just about not getting pregnant. you have to cover

yourself so that you don't get any stis because they can be very nasty and even though a lot of them, you know, medicated can be cured, can be treated, some of are for life. and what of them are for life. and what you don't want is to have, you know, a coronation. gonorrhoea and that be the buzz word come, you know, next month . so just be you know, next month. so just be careful. enjoy yourself , aslef. careful. enjoy yourself, aslef. but be careful . well, there you but be careful. well, there you go. fantastic advice from nadia teeeo— go. fantastic advice from nadia teeeo tattng— go. fantastic advice from nadia essex dating coach— essex dating coach extraordinaire. there you go . essex dating coach— extraordinaire. there you go . be extraordinaire. there you go. be eate— extraordinaire. there you go. be eate. ne— extraordinaire. there you go. be eate. ne eate— extraordinaire. there you go. be safe. be safe if— extraordinaire. there you go. be safe. be safe if you're going to nave— safe. be safe if you're going to nave a— safe. be safe if you're going to nave a goot— safe. be safe if you're going to have a good time.— safe. be safe if you're going to have a good time. this bank notttay— have a good time. this bank holiday weekend and all the otnere— holiday weekend and all the otnere tnat— holiday weekend and all the others that are— holiday weekend and all the others that are coming up now, novtng— others that are coming up now, moving government has moving on, the government has unvettet— moving on, the government has unvettet a— moving on, the government has unveiled a raft— moving on, the government has unveiled a raft of— moving on, the government has unveiled a raft of proposed gantttng— unveiled a raft of proposed gambling reforms. they're aimed unveiled a raft of proposed ga protectingorms. they're aimed unveiled a raft of proposed ga protecting vulnerable re aimed at protecting vulnerable customers. _ at protecting vulnerable customers. the white paper has euggeetet— customers. the white paper has suggested several— customers. the white paper has suggested several new rules to netp— suggested several new rules to netp tert— suggested several new rules to help kerb gambling addiction . help kerb gambling addiction. trnter— help kerb gambling addiction. wnter tne— help kerb gambling addiction. under the proposals, young ganttere— under the proposals, young gamblers could— under the proposals, young gamblers could face a steak ttntt— gamblers could face a steak ttntt ot— gamblers could face a steak ttntt ot onty— gamblers could face a steak limit of only £2— gamblers could face a steak limit of only £2 for slot nacntnee— limit of only £2 for slot machines online and gamblers who lose machines online and gamblers who toee targe— machines online and gamblers who lose large amounts— machines online and gamblers who lose large amounts of money court— lose large amounts of money coutt race— lose large amounts of money could face more— lose large amounts of money could face more checks. joining me now is addiction specialist ant— me now is addiction specialist ant autnor— me now is addiction specialist and author of—

me now is addiction specialist and author of kick your habit, dr. and author of kick your habit, o. reopen— and author of kick your habit, dr. robert lefevre. thank you very— dr. robert lefevre. thank you very nucn— dr. robert lefevre. thank you very much indeed forjoining me now. you're an expert in all tntnge— now. you're an expert in all things addiction— now. you're an expert in all things addiction . is gambling things addiction. is gambling atttctton— things addiction. is gambling addiction different from alcoholism _ addiction different from alcoholism ,_ addiction different from alcoholism , drug addiction in alcoholism, drug addiction in wnat— alcoholism, drug addiction in wnat waye— alcoholism, drug addiction in wnat waye e — alcoholism, drug addiction in what ways ? n0,— alcoholism, drug addiction in what ways ? no 0 what ways? no, it's not different . all addictive different. all addictive behaviour is the same thing, really. once we start, we can't guarantee that we'll be able to stop. we just go on and on and on. and a compulsive gambler wtt— on. and a compulsive gambler wttt atwaye— on. and a compulsive gambler will always find— on. and a compulsive gambler will always find a— and a compulsive gambler will always find a way to gantte. — will always find a way to gamble. and- will always find a way to gamble. r: g will always find a way to- gamble. and governments don't seem to understand this at all. their regulations aren't going to work. they wouldn't have worked for me when i stopped playing poker , on which i once playing poker, on which i once lost three months income on the turn of one card in a game turn of one card in a poker game , turn of one card in a poker game i , turn of one card in a poker game , i moved across to property ventures. other people , stocks ventures. other people, stocks ant— ventures. other people, stocks ant neaee— ventures. other people, stocks ant neaee or— ventures. other people, stocks and shares or into— azs other people, stocks and shares or into commodities. there— and shares or into commodities. ttere ar— and shares or into commodities. ttere teats— and shares or into commodities. there are loads of— and shares or into commodities. there are loads of ways- and shares or into commodities. there are loads of ways to- and shares or into commodities. there are loads of ways to lose money if you're a compulsive gambler. you were chasing chasing the high as people do

with drugs and alcohol to an extent. so. with drugs and alcohol to an extent. so . so how did you get extent. so. so how did you get two— extent. so. so how did you get tnto gantttng— rz;;a

blame the market. the problem goes with the individual . like goes with the individual. like me, 1 in 6 of us have addictive natures and i happen to be one of them. and if you look at the lefebvre family, that's what we're very good at. we don't do cancer or diabetes or heart disease . we do addiction and we disease. we do addiction and we are very good at it. is there a gang? sorry. are very good at it. is there a gang ? sorry. it's very gang? sorry. it's very interesting.- 33“ sorry. it's very interesting. what you say about regutatton— interesting. what you say about regutatton not— interesting. what you say about regulation not being the answer. you tanntng— regulation not being the answer. you banning advertising, making it you banning advertising, making tt note— you banning advertising, making it more difficult— you banning advertising, making it more difficult or— you banning advertising, making it more difficult or making tower— it more difficult or making lower stakes.— it more difficult or making lower stakes. et cetera. et cetera— lower stakes. et cetera. et cetera .— lower stakes. et cetera. et cetera . because- lower stakes. et cetera. et cetera . because the public cetera. because the public neattn— cetera. because the public health lobby— cetera. because the public health lobby seem adamant that more regulation— health lobby seem adamant that more regulation is— health lobby seem adamant that more regulation is the answer to tnte— more regulation is the answer to tie protten— more regulation is the answer to tie protten .— more regulation is the answer to this problem . what do you think this problem. what do you think the this problem. what do you think tne anewer— this problem. what do you think tne te— this problem. what do you think the answer is ?_ this problem. what do you think the answer is ? is— this problem. what do you think the answer is ? is it more things the answer is? is it more things tte— the answer is? is it more things ttte gantttng— the answer is? is it more things like gambling anonymous is it tnterventton— like gambling anonymous is it intervention from _ like gambling anonymous is it intervention from some doctors ? intervention from some doctors? wnat— intervention from some doctors? wnat te— intervention from some doctors? wnat te tte— intervention from some doctors? what is it? what— intervention from some doctors? what is it? what can people do ? what is it? what can people do? wett— what is it? what can people do? wett. tn— what is it? what can people do? well, i'm certainly— what is it? what can people do? well, i'm certainly very- what is it? what can people do? well, i'm certainly very much in favour of gamblers anonymous and alcoholics anonymous, narcotics anonymous, overeaters anonymous,

because that works . the 12 step because that works. the 12 step program needs to be taught in schools. so that we're aware of this problem and aware of how we can do something about it. now, gambling on sports is fun for many people, but it's a tragedy in addictive families. as far as the gambling industry is concerned. they can absorb any number of fines. they are very, very rich. we spend fortunes on gambling , very rich. we spend fortunes on gambling, but very rich. we spend fortunes on gambling , but they can't survive gambling, but they can't survive loss of their licence . and just loss of their licence. and just tell me lastly,— loss of their licence. and just tell me lastly, what's- ” l {.tiiltfiil and just tell me lastly, what's the worst ot— tell me lastly, what's the worst case of gambling— tell me lastly, what's the worst case of gambling addiction in youve— case of gambling addiction in you-ve n— case of gambling addiction in you've seen in terms of, well, tne— you've seen in terms of, well, the disastrous— you've seen in terms of, well, the disastrous consequences ? the disastrous consequences? wett— the disastrous consequences? wen, r-ve— the disastrous consequences? well, i've had— the disastrous consequences? well, i've had two inpatients in my ttne— well, i've had two inpatients in my ttne ot— well, i've had two inpatients in my time of running a rehab , both my time of running a rehab, both of my time of running a rehab, both ot wnon— my time of running a rehab, both of whom inherited— my time of running a rehab, both of whom inherited large sums of oey— of whom inherited large sums of oey — of whom inherited large sums of oey one— of whom inherited large sums of money. one had— of whom inherited large sums of money. one had 3— of whom inherited large sums of money. ozrz 15 eerzr money. one had 3 million, the other had 6 million. and they both lost all of it . other had 6 million. and they both lost all of it. gambling. wow well, there you go. it could nave— wow well, there you go. it could nave rnaeetve— wow well, there you go. it could have massive real— well, there you go. it could have massive real life consequences . and on on, on

consequences. and on on, on tantty— consequences. and on on, on tantty ot— consequences. and on on, on family of course.— consequences. and on on, on family of course. thank you very nucn— family of course. thank you very nucn tor— family of course. thank you very much for speaking— family of course. thank you very much for speaking to us, dr. robert— much for speaking to us, dr. robert lefevre— much for speaking to us, dr. robert lefevre ,_ much for speaking to us, dr. robert lefevre , author of kick robert lefevre, author of kick tour— robert lefevre, author of kick you want— robert lefevre, author of kick vour nattt .— robert lefevre, author of kick your habit . they're robert lefevre, author of kick your habit. they're an addiction epectattet— your habit. they're an addiction epectattet ant— your habit. they're an addiction specialist and someone who is ateo— specialist and someone who is also addicted— specialist and someone who is also addicted to— specialist and someone who is also addicted to gambling. it's wortn— also addicted to gambling. it's wortn eaytng— also addicted to gambling. it's wortn eaytng, ot— also addicted to gambling. it's worth saying, of course , only worth saying, of course, only eete— worth saying, of course, only eete or— worth saying, of course, only 0.3% or something very minor of o.3% or something very minor of peopte— o.3% or something very minor of peopte are— 0.3% or something very minor of people are problem gamblers. but for people are problem gamblers. but tor tnoee— people are problem gamblers. but tor tnoee wno— people are problem gamblers. but for those who are,— people are problem gamblers. but for those who are, it— people are problem gamblers. but for those who are, it can be ateotutety— for those who are, it can be absolutely catastrophic. certatnty.— absolutely catastrophic. certainly. now you've been getttng— certainly. now you've been getttng tn— certainly. now you've been getting in touch on our big toptc— getting in touch on our big toptc ot— getting in touch on our big toptc ot tne— getting in touch on our big topic of the day. would you ptetge— topic of the day. would you pledge allegiance to king cnarteee— pledge allegiance to king charles? susan has to say yes , i charles? susan has to say yes, i wtt— charles? susan has to say yes, i wttt te— charles? susan has to say yes, i wttt te ptetgtng— charles? susan has to say yes, i will be pledging allegiance to our will be pledging allegiance to ttng— will be pledging allegiance to ttng. we— will be pledging allegiance to our king. we live— will be pledging allegiance to our king. we live in a country wttn— our king. we live in a country wttn a— our king. we live in a country with a monarchy.— our king. we live in a country with a monarchy. our king with a monarchy. he is our king no—tew- no matter what. a few individuals— no matter what. a few individuals want to keep cnanttng. — individuals want to keep chanting. they look ignorant and tnnature— chanting. they look ignorant and tnnature to— chanting. they look ignorant and immature to the— chanting. they look ignorant and immature to the rest of the wortt. — immature to the rest of the wortt. ateo— immature to the rest of the world. also, i— immature to the rest of the world. also, i do- immature to the rest of the world. also, i do think they iuet— world. also, i do think they ruet toot— world. also, i do think they ruet toot a— world. also, i do think they just look a bit— world. also, i do think they just look a bit miserable. don't tneye— just look a bit miserable. don't tneye vou— just look a bit miserable. don't they? you know,— just look a bit miserable. don't they? you know, have a laugh, nave—.— they? you know, have a laugh, nave—, rnty- they? you know, have a laugh, nave—, rnty eaye.| have a bit of fun, indy says. tereonatty— have a bit of fun, indy says. personally,ihave- have a bit of fun, indy says. personally, have nothing personally, i have nothing agatnet— personally, i have nothing agatnet tne— personally, i have nothing against the monarchy but ptetgtng— against the monarchy but pledging allegiance to the king against the monarchy but plbothig allegiance to the king against the monarchy but plboth archaic ance to the king against the monarchy but plboth archaic ands to the king against the monarchy but plboth archaic and pointless.ig is both archaic and pointless. yest— is both archaic and pointless. vee r— is both archaic and pointless. vee r coutt— is both archaic and pointless. yes, i could see— is both archaic and pointless. yes, i could see that too. i'm not— yes, i could see that too. i'm not eue— yes, i could see that too. i'm not r-tt— yes, i could see that too. i'm not sure i'll be— yes, i could see that too. i'm not sure i'll be getting off my eota— not sure i'll be getting off my eota to— not sure i'll be getting off my eota to ptetge— not sure i'll be getting off my sofa to pledge allegiance , but sofa to pledge allegiance, but wno— sofa to pledge allegiance, but wno tnowee—

sofa to pledge allegiance, but who knows? might overcome who knows? i might be overcome by who knows? i might be overcome ty-wett— who knows? i might be overcome ty-wett .— who knows? i might be overcome ty-wett , tne— who knows? i might be overcome by well , the brilliance of by the well, the brilliance of tne— by the well, the brilliance of the occasion.— by the well, the brilliance of the occasion. pamela has to say i the occasion. pamela has to say rwoutt— the occasion. pamela has to say i would definitely— the occasion. pamela has to say i would definitely pledge attegtance— i would definitely pledge allegiance to— i would definitely pledge allegiance to the king. he is part— allegiance to the king. he is part ot— allegiance to the king. he is pan ot our— allegiance to the king. he is part of our country's heritage ant— part of our country's heritage ant taut— part of our country's heritage ant taut eaye— part of our country's heritage and paul says the pledge of attegtance— and paul says the pledge of allegiance should be to the crown— allegiance should be to the crown r— allegiance should be to the crown r an— allegiance should be to the crown. i am not— allegiance should be to the crown. i am not a great fan of cnartee.— crown. i am not a great fan of cnartee. nre— crown. i am not a great fan of charles. his mother was much better— charles. his mother was much tetter .— charles. his mother was much tetter . wett— charles. his mother was much better . well, this— charles. his mother was much better . well, this was what better. well, this was what tatpn— better. well, this was what rtatpn wae— better. well, this was what ralph was trying to highlight. the ralph was trying to highlight. tne-you— ralph was trying to highlight. the you pledging the fact that you are pledging attegtance— the fact that you are pledging attegtance to— the fact that you are pledging allegiance to the— the fact that you are pledging allegiance to the crown, to the nonarcny— allegiance to the crown, to the nonarcny ae— allegiance to the crown, to the monarchy as an— allegiance to the crown, to the monarchy as an institution it monarchy as an institution so it toeen-t— monarchy as an institution so it doesn't matter— monarchy as an institution so it doesn't matter so— monarchy as an institution so it doesn't matter so much what your pereonat— doesn't matter so much what your personal-towards- doesn't matter so much what your personal towards king personal feeling towards king cnartee— personal feeling towards king cnartee-te— personal feeling towards king cnartee-te .- personal feeling towards king charles-is . but- personal feeling towards king charles is . but please charles himself is. but please do charles himself is. but please to keep— charles himself is. but please to keep your— charles himself is. but please do keep your views coming in and eutecrtte— do keep your views coming in and subscribe-youtube- do keep your views coming in and subscribewe're youtube do keep your views coming in and subscribewe're at 'outube do keep your views coming in and subscribewe're at gb'ube do keep your views coming in and subscribewe're at gb news. channel. we're at gb news. rtgnt.— channel. we're at gb news. rtgnt. novtng— channel. we're at gb news. right. moving on, another well , right. moving on, another well, maybe— right. moving on, another well, nayte a— right. moving on, another well, nayte a pn— right. moving on, another well, nayte a ttt ot— right. moving on, another well, maybe a bit of a— right. moving on, another well, maybe a bit of a miserable story , tut— maybe a bit of a miserable story , tut tet-e— maybe a bit of a miserable story , tut tet-e eee— maybe a bit of a miserable story , but let's see. more— maybe a bit of a miserable story , but let's see. more than a ntttton— , but let's see. more than a million homeowners are being warnet— warned their mortgage repayments coutt— warned their mortgage repayments coutt trtpte— warned their mortgage repayments coutt trtpte to— warned their mortgage repayments could triple to around 1.8 ntttton— could triple to around 1.8 million people. will see their taet— million people. will see their ttvet rate— million people. will see their fixed rate mortgage come fixed rate mortgage deal come to an end this year, leaving them tactng— facing much higher interest tatee— rates. when they come to renongage— rates. when they come to remortg repayments. joining up with repayments. joining me

nowlsaty— up with repayments. joining me now sally mitchell. sally broker sally mitchell. sally tnant— thank you very much for joining me-afternoon._ thank you very much for joining me - afternoon. so - thank you very much for joining me afternoon. so seems the this afternoon. so it seems to me this afternoon. so it seems to te— me this afternoon. so it seems to be constant— me this afternoon. so it seems to be constant doom and gloom for to be constant doom and gloom tor peopte— to be constant doom and gloom for people trying— to be constant doom and gloom for people trying to get onto tne— for people trying to get onto tne propeny— for people trying to get onto the property ladder and then tnoee— the property ladder and then tnoee wno— the property ladder and then those who already have a home wnen— those who already have a home wnen tt— those who already have a home when it comes— those who already have a home when it comes to— those who already have a home when it comes to their mortgage repaynente — when it comes to their mortgage repayments, which— when it comes to their mortgage repayments, which set to repayments, which are set to nee— repayments, which are set to . — repayments, which are set to . wean.— repayments, which are set to rise . yeah, there's- repayments, which are set to rise . y/rzu?“ "rzz; repayments, which are set to rise . 4:3" rise. yeah, there's not a lot of good news, is there? it's affecting g: , it's affecting everybody. good news, is there? it's affecting everybody. people who are remortgage ing, people who are remortgage ing, people who are trying to get on the ladder, as you say, and people at the other end who who are perhaps looking at only a few years to retire and trying to plan exactly how to navigate these , exactly how to navigate these, you know, much, much higher rates that we're having to deal with. changed so much, even with. it's changed so much, even in six months. and as a mortgage broker yourself, you finding broker yourself, are you finding that there is still steady that there is still a steady stream of people trying buy stream of people trying to buy homes or is it or has it quietened down? it was certainly guteter— quietened down? it was certainly guteter iuet— quietened down? it was certainly quieter just after— quietened down? it was certainly quieter just after the— r: : 3“ it was certainly quieter just after the explosive ntnt—nutget— quieter just after the explosive mini—budget where people really tttn-t— mini—budget where people really tttn-t know— mini—budget where people really didn't know what— mini—budget where people really didn't know what to do. 'r: didn't know what to do. and a lot didn't know what to do. and a tot onaee— didn't know what to do. and a tot cnoee rust— didn't know what to do. and a lot chose just to _

didn't know what to do. and a lot chose just to hunker down and wait and see, play that sort of approach. but but, you know, for some people , there's always for some people, there's always the right time to move. it might not seem it when it comes to the rates that are on offer at the moment , but rates that are on offer at the moment, but there are rates that are on offer at the moment , but there are other moment, but there are other factors why people factors that govern why people purchase property and move. and sometimes those things can't be sat on. you have to go no matter what is happening in the market. and for those people, it's you know, it's not a great choice at the moment . now, know, it's not a great choice at the moment. now, i don't know, it's not a great choice at the moment . now, i don't know the moment. now, i don't know now— the moment. now, i don't know how-attention— the moment. now, i don't know how-attention you- the moment. now, i don't know how-attention you pay- now, i don't know how attention you pay to how much attention you pay to the how much attention you pay to tne tatour— how much attention you pay to the labour leader,— how much attention you pay to the labour leader, keir starmer, but the labour leader, keir starmer, tut ne— the labour leader, keir starmer, tut ne-cone— the labour leader, keir starmer, but he-come out- the labour leader, keir starmer, but he come out to say to but he has come out to say to say— but he has come out to say to eay tnat— but he has come out to say to eay tnat tne— but he has come out to say to say that the labour party, if in governent— say that the labour party, if in government, will— say that the labour party, if in government, will be the new party— government, will be the new panylnone— government, will be the new party home owners , the new party of home owners, the new party— party of home owners, the new pany ot— party of home owners, the new party of ownership , if you party of home ownership, if you were, say, advising— party of home ownership, if you were, say, advising him as you do were, say, advising him as you to your— were, say, advising him as you do your clients,— were, say, advising him as you do your clients, what would you say do your clients, what would you eay woutt— do your clients, what would you eay wouttltne— do your clients, what would you say would the thing to say would be the best thing to do say would be the best thing to to tn— say would be the best thing to to tn otter— say would be the best thing to do in order to— say would be the best thing to do in order to people do in order to get more people onto— do in order to get more people onto tne— do in order to get more people onto the housing— do in order to get more people onto the housing ladder ? o" onto the housing ladder? oh, wnat— onto the housing ladder? oh, what a— onto the housing ladder? oh, wtat a tovety— onto the housing ladder? oh, what a lovely thought. the idea that i could advise keir starmer . yes, i'll pay for that . that . yes, i'll pay for that. that interview and there needs to be

more help with people who are on lower incomes to actually get started. home ownership is such an emotive subject in this country. it's something that we all strive for, not quite so much in other countries. we don't see it in mainland europe, for example, so much , but it's for example, so much, but it's getting harder and harder for those people to get started. helped by has gone the other government schemes that are being touted have not been taken up being touted have not been taken ”p by being touted have not been taken up by mainstream developers as much as we would like to see and of course the foundation of all of course the foundation of all of this is a really strong economy because mortgage rates are affected by the bank of england base rates. so let's try and get inflation under control, which the government is trying and then hopefully, you know, even if mortgage rates stay higher than they have been historically , if the cost of historically, if the cost of living comes down, then it's not quite such a sting . my clients quite such a sting. my clients hit from all sides at the moment

. ben it'sjust one hit from all sides at the moment . ben it's just one of many outgotnge— . ben it's just one of many outgotnge you— ben it's just one of many outgoings you have. and it's not the outgoings you have. and it's not tne crazy— outgoings you have. and it's not the crazy scenario— outgoings you have. and it's not the crazy scenario we have now wnere— the crazy scenario we have now wnere a— the crazy scenario we have now wnere a tot— the crazy scenario we have now wnere a tot ot— the crazy scenario we have now where a lot of people are paying upwarte— where a lot of people are paying upwarte ot— where a lot of people are paying upwards of half— where a lot of people are paying upwards of half of— where a lot of people are paying upwards of half of their half of tnetr— upwards of half of their half of their income— upwards of half of their half of their income on— upwards of half of their half of their income on their housing atone— their income on their housing atone ant— their income on their housing alone. and that's— their income on their housing alone. and that's before, of att— alone. and that's before, of course, all the— alone. and that's before, of course, all the other bills that tney— course, all the other bills that tney nave— course, all the other bills that tney nave .— course, all the other bills that tney nave . rte— course, all the other bills that they have . it's also been said they have. it's also been said tnat— they have. it's also been said tnat peopte— they have. it's also been said that people aren't downsizing. now:— that people aren't downsizing. wow, r— that people aren't downsizing. wow, r tnougnt— that people aren't downsizing. now, i thought this was an issue to to— now, i thought this was an issue to to wttn— now, i thought this was an issue to do with stamp— now, i thought this was an issue to do with stamp duty . people to do with stamp duty. people are to do with stamp duty. people evpectet— to do with stamp duty. people are expected to— to do with stamp duty. people are expected to pay an extra paeetonate— are expected to pay an extra passionate amount of tax . if passionate amount of tax. if youe— passionate amount of tax. if you're an older— passionate amount of tax. if you're an older couple who are ttvtng— you're an older couple who are ttvtng tn— you're an older couple who are ttvtng tn a— you're an older couple who are living in a five— you're an older couple who are living in a five bedroom house, for living in a five bedroom house, tor evanpte— living in a five bedroom house, for example, your— living in a five bedroom house, for example, your kids have flown— for example, your kids have ttown—wantl for example, your kids have flown _want to flown the nest. you want to tonere — flown the nest. you want to downsize, well,— flown the nest. you want to downsize, well, it's going to coet— downsize, well, it's going to coet-eo— downsize, well, it's going to cost- so much - downsize, well, it's going to cost-so much to - downsize, well, it's going to cost so much to actually cost you so much to actually to— cost you so much to actually to a— cost you so much to actually to a to— cost you so much to actually move to a to a— cost you so much to actually move to a to a smaller property, ten-t— move to a to a smaller property, ten-tle — move to a to a smaller property, ten-tle wean.— move to a to a smaller property, ten-tle wean. r— move to a to a smaller property, isn'tl? yeah. i mean,- isn't it? yeah. i mean, certainly the stamp duty is conveyancing . there's actually conveyancing. there's actually physically moving . you know, physically moving. you know, maybe if you're a little bit older, you're not going to pack up bags literally in the up your bags literally in the back of a you're going to back of a car. you're going to use movers. so it use professional movers. so it can cost thousands just to consider moving. i am seeing people tout the idea of

combining households so perhaps, you know, if the older parents have a five bedroom house, then the children who have flown the nest might look at perhaps selling their property or selling their property or selling both properties and getting a property with an annexe for the older parents and living living together. it's certainly he ticks a lot of boxes when it comes to care in the future. i mean , obviously the future. i mean, obviously you have to really get on and well, this is the thing i mean, it's dynamic, but it could it could take off a bit more . i could take off a bit more. i mean, we often look to other cutturee— mean, we often look to other cultures and— mean, we often look to other cultures and other societies wnere— cultures and other societies where that's— cultures and other societies where that's the _ cultures and other societies where that's the norm that you ttve— where that's the norm that you ttve wttn— where that's the norm that you ttve wttn your— where that's the norm that you live with your older relatives ant— live with your older relatives ant netp — live with your older relatives and help look— live with your older relatives and help look after them and tnat— and help look after them and tnat eane— and help look after them and that means that— and help look after them and that means that you don't need to pay— that means that you don't need to pay tor— that means that you don't need to pay tor care— that means that you don't need to pay for care and— that means that you don't need to pay for care and other tntnge— to pay for care and other tntnge. nut— to pay for care and other things. but think people are things. but i think people are so things. but i think people are eo ueet— things. but i think people are eo ueet to— things. but i think people are so used to having their independence now that they can't tnagtne—tt- independence now that they can't imagine—it couldi imagine doing that. but it could be .effective. _ imagine doing that. but it could be-effective. .also- imagine doing that. but it could be effective. also good be cost effective. and also good for be cost effective. and also good tor eoctety. — be cost effective. and also good for society. -knows?- be cost effective. and also good for society. knows? thank for society. who knows? thank you— for society. who knows? thank you very— for society. who knows? thank you very nucn— for society. who knows? thank you very much indeed. sally yes, of course. thank— you very much indeed. sally yes, of course. thank you very much. satty— of course. thank you very much. sally mitchell,— of course. thank you very much. sally mitchell, mortgage advisor and sally mitchell, mortgage advisor ant troter— sally mitchell, mortgage advisor and broker there.— sally mitchell, mortgage advisor and broker there. now nurses in

natt— and broker there. now nurses in natt ot— and broker there. now nurses in half of england's— and broker there. now nurses in half of england's hospitals, nentat— half of england's hospitals, mental health— half of england's hospitals, mental health and community eervtcee— mental health and community eervtcee wtt— mental health and community services will walk out later totay— services will walk out later totay .— services will walk out later totay . rt— services will walk out later totay . rt wae— services will walk out later today . it was cut short after today. it was cut short after tne— today. it was cut short after tne rtgn— today. it was cut short after the high court— today. it was cut short after the high court ruled the walkout prote— the high court ruled the walkout trote tattot— the high court ruled the walkout broke ballot rules— the high court ruled the walkout broke ballot rules . services broke ballot rules. services tte— broke ballot rules. services like intensive— broke ballot rules. services like intensive care will be attectet— like intensive care will be attectet ty— like intensive care will be affected by the strike for the tnet— affected by the strike for the ttret trne.— affected by the strike for the first time. but— affected by the strike for the first time. but life preserving wtt— first time. but life preserving wttt te— first time. but life preserving care will be maintained in our taet— care will be maintained in our east midlands.— care will be maintained in our east midlands. reporter will nottte— east midlands. reporter will nottte te— east midlands. reporter will hollis is reporting from nottingham— hollis is reporting from nottingham . the winter in which nottingham. the winter in which tneee— nottingham. the winter in which tneee etrttee— nottingham. the winter in which these strikes began has long entet— these strikes began has long entet ant— these strikes began has long ended and now— these strikes began has long ended and now the royal college of ended and now the royal college ot wuretng-e— ended and now the royal college of nursing's mandate to strike is of nursing's mandate to strike te netttng— of nursing's mandate to strike te netttng away— of nursing's mandate to strike is melting away too. but not gutte— is melting away too. but not gutte yet— is melting away too. but not gutte yet .— is melting away too. but not quite yet . from 8:00 tonight quite yet. from 8:00 tonight until late on monday, nurses will join picket lines once again. the union wanted to strike until tuesday , but the strike until tuesday, but the high court said another day would fall outside of their strike mandate, which is only valid for six months. a government pay offer of 5% was rejected by rcn members. other unions are accepting speaking ahead of the strike, the ch's

general secretary, pat cullen said only negotiations can resolve this. and i urge ministers to reopen formal discussions with the college over pay, specifically , nursing over pay, specifically, nursing staff are looking for a fair settlement that shows the government values and understands their profession . understands their profession. but it seems that more strikes are coming in bulwell nottingham . it's only a short drive to the queen's medical centre. muriel who's 88, knows it well . she who's 88, knows it well. she just spent two weeks- 88 g she just spent two weeks there 33 g she just spent two weeks there with a pat — just spent two weeks there with a pat teg— just spent two weeks there with a pat teg . — just spent two weeks there with a pat teg . sne— just spent two weeks there with a bad leg . : a bad leg. she praised the nurses who looked after her but says they exhausted and the says they were exhausted and the nurses were very good at queen's medical centre . they all seemed medical centre. they all seemed tney— medical centre. they all seemed tney eernet— medical centre. they all seemed they seemed cheerful— i~irz;r: {a crzr�*arz; they all seemed they seemed cheerful enough ttrzn: t. crzr�*arz; they all seemed they seemed cheerful enough , ttrzn: ta crzr�*arz; they all seemed they seemed cheerful enough , but they seemed cheerful enough, but tney— they seemed cheerful enough, but tney wee— they seemed cheerful enough, but tney tnat— they seemed cheerful enough, but they were that busy. they were nee,— they were that busy. they were gag, tnere — they were that busy. they were here, there and— they were that busy. they were here, there and everywhere. the ruentng— here, there and everywhere. the ruentng atout— here, there and everywhere. the rushing about all— here, there and everywhere. the rushing about all the while you ton-t— rushing about all the while you ton-t get— rushing about all the while you ton-t get nucn— rushing about all the while you don't get much break at all wntte— don't get much break at all while they're— don't get much break at all while they're there. muriel says ene— while they're there. muriel says ene wttt— while they're there. muriel says she will support— while they're there. muriel says she will support more strikes , she will support more strikes, tut— she will support more strikes, tut otnere— she will support more strikes, but others in— she will support more strikes, but others in bulwell are unsure . nepner— but others in bulwell are unsure . nepner r— but others in bulwell are unsure . pepner r to— but others in bulwell are unsure . depheri do support but others in bulwell are unsure . depher i do support the nurses etrtte— . depher i do support the nurses gnpg, tut— . depher i do support the nurses strike, but then— . depher i do support the nurses strike, but then again i don't

teet— strike, but then again i don't teet teet— strike, but then again i don't feel feel for— strike, but then again i don't feel feel for the— strike, but then again i don't feel feel for the people that are suffering _ feel feel for the people that are suffering in— feel feel for the people that are suffering in hospitals . are suffering in hospitals. i trow— are suffering in hospitals. i know tte— are suffering in hospitals. i know it's all— are suffering in hospitals. i know it's all about- are suffering in hospitals. i know it's all about money and they all got to live, but i was ill last year and if they'd gone on strike i'd be dead there on strike i'd be dead now. there is everybody is more money than everybody else. more important than else. the more important than anybody else keeps us all alive, don't they ? despite being don't they? despite being enonen— don't they? despite being shorter, the _ oz" 0 czar? despite being shorter, the industrial action coutt— shorter, the industrial action coutt te— shorter, the industrial action could be tougher on the nhs . could be tougher on the nhs. taet— could be tougher on the nhs. taet ttne— could be tougher on the nhs. last time the _ could be tougher on the nhs. last time the union guaranteed cancer care and— last time the union guaranteed cancer care and other exemptions . wow— cancer care and other exemptions . wow tnat-e— cancer care and other exemptions . now that's gone— cancer care and other exemptions . now that's gone .— cancer care and other exemptions . now that's gone . aside from . now that's gone. aside from tocat— . now that's gone. aside from some local deals— . now that's gone. aside from some local deals .- . now that's gone. aside from some local deals . health and some local deals. health and soctat— some local deals. health and soctat care— some local deals. health and social care secretary steve narctay— social care secretary steve narctay eart— social care secretary steve barclay said it— social care secretary steve barclay said it is hugely disappointing. some unions are eecatattng— disappointing. some unions are escalating strike— disappointing. some unions are escalating strike action this weet— escalating strike action this weet .— escalating strike action this week , including the rcn, despite week, including the rcn, despite onty— week, including the rcn, despite onty a— week, including the rcn, despite onty a tntrt— week, including the rcn, despite onty a tntrt ot— week, including the rcn, despite only a third of its— week, including the rcn, despite only a third of its members rerecttng— only a third of its members rerecttng tne— only a third of its members rejecting the government's fair ant— rejecting the government's fair and reasonable— rejecting the government's fair and reasonable offer on pay, wntcn— and reasonable offer on pay, wntcn otner— and reasonable offer on pay, which other unions accepted. surnrner— which other unions accepted. surnrner te— which other unions accepted. summer is coming, but unresolved . tneee— summer is coming, but unresolved . tneee etrttee— summer is coming, but unresolved . these strikes could— summer is coming, but unresolved . these strikes could last until next— . these strikes could last until next wtnter— . these strikes could last until next wtnter . — . these strikes could last until next winter . will— . these strikes could last until next winter . �*frr ll cit . these strikes could last until next winter . �*frr ll [15 re next winter. will hollis gb news in nottingham . thanks to our in nottingham. thanks to our reporter— in nottingham. thanks to our reponer wttt— in nottingham. thanks to our reporter will hollis. - " \r gr?“ thanks to our reporter will hollis. ”rzz; reporter will hollis. there you are watching and listening to gb

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agenda and the illegal immigration bill has cleared its final stages in the house of commons . but final stages in the house of commons. but will final stages in the house of commons . but will the lords try commons. but will the lords try and block it? keep your views coming in. i'll be sharing them throughout show, but first, throughout the show, but first, let's news headlines throughout the show, but first, let's tatiana news headlines throughout the show, but first, let's tatiana sanchez adlines throughout the show, but first, let's tatiana sanchez .dlines throughout the show, but first, let's tatiana sanchez . emily, with tatiana sanchez. emily, thank you very much and good afternoon. it's 2:01. this is tne— afternoon. it's 2:01. this is tne tateet— afternoon. it's 2:01. this is the latest from _ afternoon. it's 2:01. this is the latest from the- " it's 2:01. this is the latest from the newsroom. tne— the latest from the newsroom. tne tet— the latest from the newsroom. the red cross— the latest from the newsroom. the red cross has— the latest from the newsroom. the red cross has sent planes wttn— the red cross has sent planes with medical— the red cross has sent planes with medical supplies to the tort— with medical supplies to the tort ot— with medical supplies to the port of sudan— with medical supplies to the port of sudan .— with medical supplies to the port of sudan . that's following port of sudan. that's following the port of sudan. that's following tne tnat— port of sudan. that's following the final evacuation flight carrytng— the final evacuation flight carrying british nationals that tepartet— carrying british nationals that departed khartoum late last ntgnt— departed khartoum late last ntgnt .— departed khartoum late last ntgnt . peputy— departed khartoum late last night . deputy prime minister night. deputy prime minister ettver— night. deputy prime minister oliver dowden— night. deputy prime minister oliver dowden said rescue operattone— oliver dowden said rescue operations ended following a etgntttcant— operations ended following a significant decline in the nurnert— significant decline in the nurnert ot— significant decline in the number of british nationals contng— number of british nationals coming forward— number of british nationals coming forward to flee. nearly . coming forward to flee. nearly. goo— coming forward to flee. nearly. i900 peopte— coming forward to flee. nearly. i900 peopte on— coming forward to flee. nearly. 1900 people on 21— coming forward to flee. nearly. 1900 people on 21 flights have teen— 1900 people on 21 flights have been evacuated— 1900 people on 21 flights have been evacuated .— 1900 people on 21 flights have been evacuated . however, there been evacuated. however, there are been evacuated. however, there etttt— been evacuated. however, there are still thousands— been evacuated. however, there are still thousands of british ctttzene— are still thousands of british citizens stuck— are still thousands of british citizens stuck amid fighting atong— citizens stuck amid fighting atong .— citizens stuck amid fighting atong . wus— citizens stuck amid fighting along . nhs nurses across the

along. nhs nurses across the country— along. nhs nurses across the country wttt— along. nhs nurses across the country will walk— along. nhs nurses across the country will walk out from 8:00 tnte— country will walk out from 8:00 tnte eventng— country will walk out from 8:00 this evening in— country will walk out from 8:00 this evening in a— country will walk out from 8:00 this evening in a 28 hour strike pay.— this evening in a 28 hour strike pay. rn— this evening in a 28 hour strike pay. n a— this evening in a 28 hour strike over pay. in a ballot earlier tnte— over pay. in a ballot earlier we nontn— over pay. in a ballot earlier this month, 54%— over pay. in a ballot earlier this month, 54% of rcn members retectet— this month, 54% of rcn members retectet tne — this month, 54% of rcn members rejected the government's offer of rejected the government's offer ot a— rejected the government's offer ot a sto— rejected the government's offer or a 5% pay— rejected the government's offer or a 5% pay nee— rejected the government's offer of a 5% pay rise from april . of a 5% pay rise from april. creat— of a 5% pay rise from april. great ormond— of a 5% pay rise from april. great ormond street hospital is among— great ormond street hospital is among organisations where nurses nave— among organisations where nurses nave agreet— among organisations where nurses nave agreet to— among organisations where nurses have agreed to keep limited etart— have agreed to keep limited etatt on— have agreed to keep limited staff on after— have agreed to keep limited staff on after voicing serious concerns about— staff on after voicing serious concerns about patient safety turtng— concerns about patient safety turtng tne— concerns about patient safety during the walkout . nhs england during the walkout. nhs england is during the walkout. nhs england te urgtng— during the walkout. nhs england te urgtng tne— during the walkout. nhs england is urging the public to use the neattn— is urging the public to use the health service— is urging the public to use the health service wisely. it said emergency— health service wisely. it said emergency and— health service wisely. it said emergency and urgent care would tne— emergency and urgent care would remain the priority— emergency and urgent care would remain the priority . motty, the remain the priority. motty, the neat— remain the priority. motty, the neat ot— remain the priority. motty, the head of global— remain the priority. motty, the head of global projects at young votcee— head of global projects at young votcee wt,— head of global projects at young voices uk, jason— head of global projects at young voices uk, jason reid , told gb voices uk, jason reid, told gb wewe— voices uk, jason reid, told gb wewe tne— voices uk, jason reid, told gb news the nurses— voices uk, jason reid, told gb news the nurses strike is the wrong— news the nurses strike is the wrong tntng— news the nurses strike is the wrong tntng to— news the nurses strike is the wrong thing to do . wrong thing to do. just hate to think of all those patients and all those families who will suffer directly as a result of the of what the rcn are doing. if they really were concerned atout— if they really were concerned about patient— if they really were concerned about patient safety, i don't tntnt— about patient safety, i don't tntnt tnat— about patient safety, i don't think that they— about patient safety, i don't think that they would be doing tnte— think that they would be doing tnte. r— think that they would be doing tnte. r ton-t— think that they would be doing this. i don't think— think that they would be doing this. i don't think you could nave— this. i don't think you could- nave—watt have a clear conscience to walk out— have a clear conscience to walk out tt— have a clear conscience to walk out tt youre— have a clear conscience to walk out tt youre an— have a clear conscience to walk out if you're an intensive care ueeal— out if you're an intensive care nurse a cancer nurse and say nurse or a cancer nurse and say tnat— nurse or a cancer nurse and say tnat tt— nurse or a cancer nurse and say tnat tt wae— nurse or a cancer nurse and say that it was patient— nurse or a cancer nurse and say that it was patient safety, that

was motivating— that it was patient safety, that was motivating you. pretty ctearty— was motivating you. pretty ctearty. tney— was motivating you. pretty clearly. they just want to egueee— clearly. they just want to squeeze _extra - clearly. they just want to squeeze extra pounds out squeeze a few extra pounds out of squeeze a few extra pounds out ot tne — squeeze a few extra pounds out of the government. our of of the government. our money of tnat— of the government. our money of course, that-paying- course, that we're paying tnougn— course, that we're paying tnrougn-.- course, that we're paying through -. and - course, that we're paying through . and so it's just through taxes. and so it's just not— through taxes. and so it's just notlsituation_ through taxes. and so it's just notlsituation that- through taxes. and so it's just not situation that the not a situation that the government _ not a situation that the government should give government should should give tnto— government should should give tnto-eet— government should should give into set precedent into and set a precedent for tuture— into and set a precedent for tune-.— into and set a precedent for future-, that- into and set a precedent for future-, that this- into and set a precedent for future , that this is an future strikes, that this is an okay— future strikes, that this is an okay-to— future strikes, that this is an otay-to .- future strikes, that this is an otay-to . - future strikes, that this is an okay-to. nut- future strikes, that this is an okay-do . but thei okay thing to do. but the assistant editor at prospect magazine, emily crawford, says that nurses are putting patients lives at risk due to being overworked . if nurses have been overworked. if nurses have been so overworked. if nurses have been eo overwortet— overworked. if nurses have been so overworked and— : if nurses have been so overworked and understaffed for so overworked and understaffed tor tne— so overworked and understaffed tor tne paet— so overworked and understaffed for the past few— so overworked and understaffed for the past few years, that in tteett— for the past few years, that in tteett nae— for the past few years, that in itself has been— for the past few years, that in itself has been a— for the past few years, that in itself has been a risk to patent— itself has been a risk to patient safety- itself has been a risk to patient safety anyway. last y...— patient safety anyway. last y... r— patient safety anyway. last year, t tntnt— patient safety anyway. last year, i think last year there teeeo— year, i think last year there were 40,000 full time nurses vacancies in england. if we've got— vacancies in england. if we've got rnaeetve— vacancies in england. if we've got .— vacancies in england. if we've got massive , massive gaps like got massive, massive gaps like rig,— got massive, massive gaps like rig, r— got massive, massive gaps like rig, r tntnt— got massive, massive gaps like that, i think patient safety has atreaty— that, i think patient safety has atreaty teen— that, i think patient safety has already been at— that, i think patient safety has already been at risk for a while . tte— already been at risk for a while . tne ttne— already been at risk for a while . the prime minister- already been at risk for a while . the prime minister has- already been at risk for a while . the prime minister has slammed what he's called selfish saboteurs who forced traffic to go slow , rishi sunak told the go slow, rishi sunak told the sun on sunday that he wants to put a those who use this put a stop to those who use this tactic. ministers want police to be able to stop slow walkers, but labour says the government is chasing headlines. is just chasing headlines. it comes as ministers plan to push

through measures to widen the legal of serious legal definition of serious disruption to enable officers to stop activists interfere with traffic . five people, including traffic. five people, including an eight year old child, have been killed in a shooting at a home in texas. officials from the san jacinto county sheriff's office attended the scene after they received a call about harassment. several victims had been shot by the time police arrived . the suspect is armed arrived. the suspect is armed and still on the run . the and still on the run. the british army has begun rehearsals for the coronation of king charles. soldiers from all divisions of the armed forces have gathered at training areas across south london to prepare for the biggest ceremonial event of their lives. soldiers have flown home from operational dufies flown home from operational duties or training exercises from as far afield as cyprus, iraq , kenya from as far afield as cyprus, iraq, kenya and estonia to represent their regiments and their corpse at the event . their corpse at the event. representatives from the nation's faith communities will

play nation's faith communities will play an active role in the coronation. for the first time in history when king charles is crowned. leaders from jewish, hindu, sikh , muslim and buddhist hindu, sikh, muslim and buddhist groups will deliver a greeting to the king in unison the archbishop of canterbury says the service will be foremost an act of christian worship. but the new elements will reflect the new elements will reflect the diversity of modern society and the stone of destiny has been welcomed to england in a special ceremony ahead of the event. it dates back to the 12th century and is normally on display at edinburgh castle . it display at edinburgh castle. it will sit under the king's throne next week and has been used in coronations . coronations for nearly. a thousand years. this is gb news. we'll bring you more news as it happens now. emily it is back to you . you. thanks again, tatiana . so let's

thanks again, tatiana. so let's get stuck into today's- rag? " so let's get stuck into today's topic. eur— get stuck into today's topic. our gueetton— get stuck into today's topic. our question of— get stuck into today's topic. our question of the day is will you— our question of the day is will you ptetge— our question of the day is will you pledge allegiance to king cnartee— you pledge allegiance to king cnartee at— you pledge allegiance to king charles at at— you pledge allegiance to king charles at at the— you pledge allegiance to king charles at at the coronation? jill charles at at the coronation? rrtt nae— charles at at the coronation? jitt nae tott— charles at at the coronation? jill has told me— charles at at the coronation? jill has told me i— charles at at the coronation? jill has told me i always considered— jill has told me i always considered myself to be a royattet— considered myself to be a royattet .— considered myself to be a royalist , but— considered myself to be a royalist , but have to say i'm royalist, but have to say i'm teettng— royalist, but have to say i'm feeling underwhelmed . feeling pretty underwhelmed. stnce— feeling pretty underwhelmed. since - advent— feeling pretty underwhelmed. since-advent of- feeling pretty underwhelmed. since advent of king since the advent of king cnartee. — since the advent of king charles. we'll- since the advent of king charles. we'll be far away on notttay— charles. we'll be far away on holiday coronation and holiday for the coronation and gutetty— holiday for the coronation andi quietly—allegiances quietly relieved my allegiances to my— quietly relieved my allegiances to my tantty. — quietly relieved my allegiances to my family. you— quietly relieved my allegiances to my family. you know, i think gutte— to my family. you know, i think gutte a— to my family. you know, i think gutte a tot— to my family. you know, i think gutte a tot ot— to my family. you know, i think quite a lot of people are teettng— quite a lot of people are. teettng—ttt feeling that way a little bit underwhelmed— underwhelmed by king charles. but underwhelmed by king charles. nutltt— underwhelmed by king charles. nutltt tuet— underwhelmed by king charles. but-it just about— underwhelmed by king charles. but it just about the but is it just about the nonarcnye— but is it just about the- monarchy?_pledging monarchy? is it about pledging attegtance— monarchy? is it about pledging allegiance institution allegiance to the institution ratner— allegiance to the institution ratner-tne — allegiance to the institution rather-the man- allegiance to the institution rather the man himself? let allegiance to the institution rath know the man himself? let allegiance to the institution rath know what man himself? let allegiance to the institution rath know what you �*i himself? let allegiance to the institution rath know what you think. elf? let allegiance to the institution rath know what you think. but let me know what you think. but pig,— me know what you think. but pig, we— me know what you think. but first, we will— me know what you think. but first, we will be— me know what you think. but first, we will be talking to tom narwoot,— first, we will be talking to tom narwoot, our— first, we will be talking to tom harwood, our deputy political ettton— harwood, our deputy political egg. tetr— harwood, our deputy political editor, keir starmer said he'll be totter— editor, keir starmer said he'll be bolder than— editor, keir starmer said he'll be bolder than blair on public eervtce— be bolder than blair on public service reform.— be bolder than blair on public service reform. he's announced big service reform. he's announced ttg ptane— service reform. he's announced ttg ptane to— service reform. he's announced big plans to build— service reform. he's announced big plans to build more houses, get ttret— big plans to build more houses, get ttret ttne— big plans to build more houses, get first time buyers onto the property— get first time buyers onto the property tatter— get first time buyers onto the property ladder -_ get first time buyers onto the property ladder. he's pledged to teat— property ladder. he's pledged to lead—government. property ladder. he's pledged to lead government if lead a reforming government if his lead a reforming government if we pany-e— lead a reforming government if his party's elected promise it to introduce— his party's elected promise it to introduce a— his party's elected promise it to introduce a raft of changes to introduce a raft of changes to tactte— to introduce a raft of changes to tackle the _ to introduce a raft of changes to tackle the housing shortage . to tackle the housing shortage. joining— to tackle the housing shortage. rornrng ne— to tackle the housing shortage. rornrng me te— to tackle the housing shortage. joining me is tom— to tackle the housing shortage. joining me is tom harwood, the teputy— joining me is tom harwood, the teputy our— joining me is tom harwood, the teputy teputy— joining me is tom harwood, the deputy our deputy political etttor— deputy our deputy political etttor .— deputy our deputy political editor . tom,— deputy our deputy political editor. tom, what's keir starmer nat— editor. tom, what's keir starmer nat to— editor. tom, what's keir starmer nat to eay— editor. tom, what's keir starmer nat to eay e — editor. tom, what's keir starmer

had to say ? yes,— editor. tom, what's keir starmer had to say ? v.35 g editor. tom, what's keir starmer had to say ? r/rzn; g at" had to say? yes, well, it's an interest thing. policy proposals set out this morning by keir starmer because, of course, he has been under some criticism in recent years for not really having much policy at all, for being a rather bland and blank blancmange as he was once called by boris johnson across the despatch box of the house of commons. ultimately keir starmer has been riding a wave of, i suppose, public ambivalence. one might say, because the labour party hasn't really been winning due to its or at least leading in the polls due to its great enthusiasm for its policies , but enthusiasm for its policies, but more antipathy toward its opposition. the government . so opposition. the government. so it's a tightrope for keir starmer to walk in terms of devising policy that does not upset that delicate balance of that coalition that he has clearly built amongst the electorate of mainly people disillusioned with the current government. that being said , government. that being said, it's reported today that he's been many conversations been in many conversations recently with one no one other

than tony blair, sir tony than mr tony blair, sir tony blair, as i should probably call him, who wrote in his autobiography , of course, autobiography, of course, a journey back in in the last decade that he regretted not going fast and far enough on pubuc going fast and far enough on public sector reform in his first term and keir starmer this morning is saying that he wants to go far and fast on public sector reform. and we've heard already some hints as to what that is. of course, wes streeting the shadow health secretary, has spoken about a greater sense of market involvement in the nhs to relieve some of that pressure and use private companies , of and use private companies, of course, still free at the point of use for people using the service. but more relaxed approach there and also today we hear that keir starmer is saying hear that keir starmer is saying he wants to reinstitute the housing targets that were scrapped only a couple of months ago by rishi sunak, although at the same time he's saying he wants to give more power to local councils, not yet. a great detail on what that power is. he

wants local councils, wants to give to local councils, but to it a bit of a but to some it seems a bit of a contradiction terms that contradiction in terms that number one, he wants to force councils to build more houses, but on the other hand wants to give to councils than give more power to councils than they have . kyiv which they already have. kyiv which seems like it needs to be fleshed out a little bit more. perhaps yes. yes. sounds like we neet— perhaps yes. yes. sounds like we needlknow— perhaps yes. yes. sounds like we needlknow some— perhaps yes. yes. sounds like we need-know some of— perhaps yes. yes. sounds like we need-know some of the- r/rzn; yes. sounds like we need know some of the fine need to know some of the fine tetatte— need to know some of the fine tetatte on— need to know some of the fine details on that— need to know some of the fine details on that one for it to mate— details on that one for it to mate mate— details on that one for it to make make sense now. liz truss , make make sense now. liz truss, tett— make make sense now. liz truss, tett our— make make sense now. liz truss, tell our viewers— make make sense now. liz truss, tell our viewers why— make make sense now. liz truss, tell our viewers why she is retuetng— tell our viewers why she is retuetng to— tell our viewers why she is refusing to pay— tell our viewers why she is refusing to pay .- tell our viewers why she is refusing to pay . a £12,000 bill. refusing to pay. a £12,000 bill. vee— refusing to pay. a £12,000 bill. vee — refusing to pay. a £12,000 bill. vee wee.— refusing to pay. a £12,000 bill. vee vee- tnte— refusing to pay. a £12,000 bill. yes yes. this is— refusing to pay. a £12,000 bill. yes yes. this is a— refusing to pay. a £12,000 bill. yes yes. this is a bill- refusing to pay. a £12,000 bill. yes /rz;~;f " ll refusing to pay. a £12,000 bill. yes v/rzzr " ll yes yes. this is a bill for her time spent at chevening over the summer. the chief thing, of course, is the grace and favour home the foreign secretary. home of the foreign secretary. and interestingly , she has been and interestingly, she has been given a bill just this month that relates to august. and it is an enormous bill which she is so far refusing to pay because she contends it contains a mix of things both her personal expenses, which she's always

paid with regard to her role as foreign secretary in previous months, she's been happy to settle those bills, but she contends that mixes up those contends that it mixes up those with business of state, with official business of state, for example, dinners that were held in chevening with senior civil servants while she was preparing to be prime minister. now she wants those particular items to be removed from this bill and then she will pay it and ultimately , it does seem and ultimately, it does seem that that is a reasonable request . but because it has been request. but because it has been pointed out by people close to liz truss that that were civil servants to attend at these dinners and it not to be covered by the state, that would be in breach of civil service rules . breach of civil service rules. so it's either that senior civil servants like the cabinet secretary broke those rules or liz truss is not actually liable to pay for some of that bill, it must be said. however, there is other other elements of the bill that don't be disputed ,

that don't seem to be disputed, including some dressing including some missing dressing gowns and other bits and bobs from chevening. so perhaps some of liz truss or perhaps some of her staff have taken some souvenirs as well from their time there. yes, some some luxury luxury bathrobes and slippers. interesting stuff, ton.— slippers. interesting stuff, torn. eur— slippers. interesting stuff, torn. our ttg— interesting stuff, tom. our big question of the day is tom. our big question of the day te wttt— tom. our big question of the day te wttt you— tom. our big question of the day is will you pledge— tom. our big question of the day is will you pledge allegiance to ttng— is will you pledge allegiance to ttng cnartee— is will you pledge allegiance to king charles at— is will you pledge allegiance to king charles at the coronation? wttt— king charles at the coronation? wttt you— king charles at the coronation? wttt you te— king charles at the coronation? will you be pledging allegiance ? will you be pledging allegiance e on.— will you be pledging allegiance e on. r— will you be pledging allegiance e on. r tttnt— will you be pledging allegiance 7 oh, i think it's— will you be pledging allegiance 7 oh, i think it's a— will you be pledging allegiance .7 oh, i think it's a bit- will you be pledging allegiance ? oh, i think it's a bit of fun, really. i'm not the most religious person in the world, but i will be i will i will probably swear allegiance to king charles under god, his heirs and indeed his successors as how lovely. there you go . and as how lovely. there you go. and ecuetve— as how lovely. there you go. and ecuetve tor— as how lovely. there you go. and exclusive for us— as how lovely. there you go. and exclusive for us from _ there you go. and exclusive for us from tom narwoot— exclusive for us from tom narwoot .— exclusive for us from tom narwoot . ne— exclusive for us from tom harwood . he will be swearing harwood. he will be swearing attegtance— harwood. he will be swearing allegiance to— harwood. he will be swearing allegiance to the— harwood. he will be swearing allegiance to the monarch. tvcettent— allegiance to the monarch. excellent_you,j allegiance to the monarch. - excellent—you, tom. excellent stuff. thank you, tom. tnant— excellent stuff. thank you, tom. tnant you— excellent stuff. thank you, tom. tnant you-your— excellent stuff. thank you, tom. thank you your time . our thank you for your time. our pottttcat— thank you for your time. our political deputy— thank you for your time. our political deputy political etttor— political deputy political editor are— political deputy political editor are there from milton teynee— editor are there from milton teynee .— editor are there from milton teynee . rtgnt.— editor are there from milton keynes . right. moving on, keynes. right. moving on, nrttatn— keynes. right. moving on, britain could— keynes. right. moving on, britain could be unable to keep the britain could be unable to keep tne—rety- britain could be unable to keep tne—rety ontyl britain could be unable to keep tne—rety onty oni the lights on if we rely only on net zero. power— the lights on if we rely only on net zero. power mps have warned green— net zero. power mps have warned green power— net zero. power mps have warned green power can-t— net zero. power mps have warned green power can't currently generate— green power can't currently generate enough energy to run

the generate enough energy to run tne country— generate enough energy to run tne country .— generate enough energy to run the country . the— generate enough energy to run the country . the business select the country. the business select conntttee— the country. the business select conntttee te— the country. the business select committee is urging the government— committee is urging the government to increase the aount— government to increase the aount ot— government to increase the amount of energy generated from green— amount of energy generated from green-tte— amount of energy generated from green-like wind- green sources like wind turttnee. — green sources like wind turbines. if— green sources like wind turbines. if we want to meet tnoee— turbines. if we want to meet tnoee net— turbines. if we want to meet those net zero— turbines. if we want to meet those net zero targets. so rotntng— those net zero targets. so rotntng ne— those net zero targets. so joining me now is director at cttnate— joining me now is director at climate media— joining me now is director at climate media coalition, donica wccartny— climate media coalition, donica aaccanny ant— climate media coalition, donica mccarthy and the— climate media coalition, donica mccarthy and the head of policy at wet— mccarthy and the head of policy at wet ero— mccarthy and the head of policy at net zero. watch— mccarthy and the head of policy at net zero. watch harry wttttneon— at net zero. watch harry wilkinson .— at net zero. watch harry wilkinson . so, harry, what was wilkinson. so, harry, what was your— wilkinson. so, harry, what was your ttret— wilkinson. so, harry, what was your first thought— wilkinson. so, harry, what was your first thought when you neart— your first thought when you neart tnte— your first thought when you heard this from _ your first thought when you heard this from the business setect— heard this from the business select committee ? d well, select committee? d well, conptetety— select committee? d well, completely unsurprised. i think got— completely unsurprised. i think got tnte— completely unsurprised. i think we've got this enormous challenge of putting all of the energy that we use for heating at the moment in our houses. that's mainly powered by gas at the that's mainly powered by gas at tne rnornent — that's mainly powered by gas at the moment. it's— that's mainly powered by gas at the moment. it's all- that's mainly powered by gas at the moment. 0 grzr g the moment. it's all going to have to come from electricity and because the government's focusing on wind and solar and not allowing much else to be commissioned at present, you know, that is an incredibly variable source of energy . and variable source of energy. and so the physical rtrz gar and so the physical practicalities of so the physical practicalities ot tnte— so the physical practicalities of this look— so the physical practicalities of this look incredibly difficult— of this look incredibly difficult . - of this look incredibly difficult . ' r: of this look incredibly difficult. r: c of this look incredibly- difficult . and so it doesn't difficult. and so it doesn't surprise me that this committee

has come out and said they don't think on our current plans it will be able to be met in a way that keeps the lights on. .uk are you worried that we- are you worried that we won't be atte— are you worried that we won't be atte to— are you worried that we won't be atte to power— are you worried that we won't be able to power ourselves on green energy— able to power ourselves on green energy atone— able to power ourselves on green energy atone .— able to power ourselves on green energy atone , or— able to power ourselves on green energy alone , or do— able to power ourselves on green energy alone , or do you think energy alone, or do you think tnat— energy alone, or do you think tnat we— energy alone, or do you think tnat we wttt— energy alone, or do you think that we will be— energy alone, or do you think that we will be if— energy alone, or do you think that we will be if we just had a bit that we will be if we just had a ttt note— that we will be if we just had a bit more investment ? that we will be if we just had a bit more investment? i think tnte— bit more investment? i think we tne— bit more investment? i think this the headline for this tetate— this the headline for this tetate te— this the headline for this debate is a— this the headline for this debate is a travesty . debate is a travesty. the teatttne— debate is a travesty. the headline in— debate is a travesty. the headline in the telegraph completely deceived the public. what the government parliamentary committee has said is parliamentary committee has said te tnat— parliamentary committee has said te tnat were— parliamentary committee has said is that we're not— parliamentary committee has said is that we're not investing in green— is that we're not investing in green energy— is that we're not investing in green energy fast enough to acnteve— green energy fast enough to acnteve net— green energy fast enough to achieve net zero. this is notntng— achieve net zero. this is nothing about- achieve net zero. this is nothing about keeping lights on or ott— nothing about keeping lights on or ott to— nothing about keeping lights on or ott to ant— nothing about keeping lights on or off to and say,— nothing about keeping lights on or off to and say, imply anytntng— or off to and say, imply anything else- or off to and say, imply anything else is deceitful to tne— anything else is deceitful to tne putttc— anything else is deceitful to the public, but— anything else is deceitful to the public, but not surprising tron— the public, but not surprising tron tne— the public, but not surprising from the global— the public, but not surprising from the global warming policy tountatton— from the global warming policy tountatton .— from the global warming policy foundation , funded by american foundation, funded by american oil billionaires— foundation, funded by american oil billionaires that they would be trotttng— oil billionaires that they would be trotting out— oil billionaires that they would be trotting out this trope . be trotting out this trope. so youre— be trotting out this trope. so you're confident— be trotting out this trope. so you're confident that- be trotting out this trope. so you're confident that if- be trotting out this trope. so you're confident that if we were to invest enough, we'd be able to invest enough, we'd be able to run the economy and keep the

lights on with green energy? so wind, solar , et cetera . wind, solar, et cetera. absolutely. we've already miraculously— absolutely. we've already miraculously moved in just ten, ten yeare— miraculously moved in just ten, ten yeare tron — miraculously moved in just ten, ten years from 2%_ miraculously moved in just ten, ten years from 2% of electricity contng— ten years from 2% of electricity contng tron — ten years from 2% of electricity coming from renewables to 40. it coming from renewables to 40. rt wa— coming from renewables to 40. rt aron— coming from renewables to 40. it was 40% coal,— coming from renewables to 40. it was 40% coal, 12— coming from renewables to 40. it was 40% coal, 12 years- coming from renewables to 40. ”dea? t �*i? : it was 40% coal, 12 years ago. it's now 40% renewables. we've done that effect fully within the market and we should continue using market mechanisms . what the report identified is that the british government is failing to invest in the infrastructure to enable the invest moment to happen in green energy and they are warning it's a threat to the economy because investors are moving to the european union and to american markets because the government regulations there are facilitate ing the investment. so what the parliamentary committee is highlighting is the failure of the government to facilitate the investment in renewables , energy investment in renewables, energy efficiency and storage that is needed. harry if the government were to allow more investment in

green energy, we'd be absolutely a—okay . i green energy, we'd be absolutely a—okay. i don't think that's the at— a—okay. i don't think that's the at at. — a—okay. i don't think that's the case at all. let's— a—okay. i don't think that's the case at all. let's look- ' i don't think that's the case at all. let's look at what's actually happened over the few decades. we've seen the last few decades. we've seen a expansion of wind and a massive expansion of wind and solar. yes, but we've seen prtcee— solar. yes, but we've seen prtcee tn— yes, but we've seen prices in electricity rise and tne— prices in electricity rise and tne trt— prices in electricity rise and rise. the uk has— prices in electricity rise and rise. the uk has some of the noet— rise. the uk has some of the most uncompetitive electricity prtcee— most uncompetitive electricity prtcee tn— most uncompetitive electricity prtcee tntne— most uncompetitive electricity prices in the world. and so toet— prices in the world. and so toet a— prices in the world. and so we've lost a lot— prices in the world. and so we've lost a lot of energy tntenetve— we've lost a lot of energy intensive industries. ' r: intensive industries. and so tnoee— intensive industries. and so those activities just happen in more carbon intensive places in the world like china , where the world like china, where actually the environmental standards are worse. so the record is not one— standards are worse. so the record is not one of- so the record is not one of success. tte— record is not one of success. no one— record is not one of success. we ot— record is not one of success. it's one of deindustrialisation . it's one that's seen. yes, our emissions fall,— . it's one that's seen. yes, our emissions fall, but— . it's one that's seen. yes, our emissions fall, but us- c " yes, our emissions fall, but us spend ant— emissions fall, but us spend more and more— emissions fall, but us spend more and more on balancing the grtt. — more and more on balancing the grtt. r— more and more on balancing the gnt. r wean— more and more on balancing the grid. i mean, when— more and more on balancing the grid. i mean, when the- more and more on balancing the grid. r: grid. i mean, when the wind isn't blowing, we're having to have lots of expensive backup sources. batteries at present just can't be operated on the kind of scale that you would need to deal with the kind of energy system that we're likely to need in the future . so there

to need in the future. so there are completely legitimate reasons to be concerned about this. and i think what donald is really wrong in saying is about copying the inflation reduction act . we know that picking act. we know that picking winners doesn't work. you know, there's a lot of companies who are desperate for government subsidies. so it's not surprising that they're threatening to leave and move to europe or move to america. but this is not the kind of model that creates a successful economy where we just see companies chase government subsidies. this is a recipe for inefficiency and a sclerotic economy. we shouldn't be following this example . donica following this example. donica of course you and many- g donica of course you and many people wttt— of course you and many people wttt eay— of course you and many people wttt eay tnat— of course you and many people will say that net— of course you and many people will say that net zero must nappen. — will say that net zero must nappen. rt— will say that net zero must nappen. rt te— will say that net zero must nappen. rt te a— will say that net zero must happen. it is a benefit for country— happen. it is a benefit for country environment . et cetera. country environment. et cetera. et country environment. et cetera. tr cetera — country environment. et cetera. tr cetera nut— country environment. et cetera. et cetera. but would you admit tnat— et cetera. but would you admit tnat tt— et cetera. but would you admit tnat tt te— et cetera. but would you admit that it is costing— et cetera. but would you admit that it is costing us? no, i woutt— that it is costing us? no, i woutt not. — that it is costing us? no, i would not. i— that it is costing us? no, i would not. : �*" that it is costing us? no, i would not. : would not. i would if you actually look at the facts. net zero regulations have have brought in lighting that cost

90% less. our cards cost 70% less because they're more efficient. our homes are more or tneutatet. — efficient. our homes are more or more insulated. so— efficient. our homes are more or more insulated. so they- t. rz; our homes are more or more insulated. t ”096 more insulated. so they cost 40% less. our fridges cost 80% less to run. if we hadn't invest in energy efficiency regulations over the last ten years, this would be costing homeowners thousands of pounds extra. and i really want to pull up harry and the global warming policy foundation. there war on energy efficiency meant the government aboush efficiency meant the government abolish the home insulation program to point 4 million houses were being insulated and now less than 100,000. what does that meant? 9 million families this winter were suffering because fossil fuel prices went through the roof because of their war on energy efficiency . their war on energy efficiency. and we really must call out it is not acceptable in british politics that think tanks like his are funded secretly by american billionaires without letting us know who is behind him. it is really trashing the public's confidence in our political system , and it's political system, and it's costing consumers thousands of

pounds. well, donica, i think it's pounds. well, donica, i think rte-tntng— pounds. well, donica, i think it's-thing that- pounds. well, donica, i think it's-thing that there. as well, donica, i think it's thing that there is it's a good thing that there is a-ot— it's a good thing that there is a-ot vrewe- it's a good thing that there is a of views represented a plurality of views represented on-tnere— a plurality of views represented on-tnere-nany- a plurality of views represented on there many people on this. there are many people up ant— on this. there are many people up ant town— on this. there are many people up and down country who are up and down the country who are concernet ty— up and down the country who are concerned by net— up and down the country who are concerned by net zero policies, wnetner— concerned by net zero policies, wnetner tte— concerned by net zero policies, whether it's the— concerned by net zero policies, whether it's the push to ban petrot— whether it's the push to ban petrol-diesel— whether it's the push to ban petrol-diesel or- whether it's the push to ban petrol diesel or whether petrol and diesel or whether tte— petrol and diesel or whether tt-e tne— petrol and diesel or whether tt-e tne puen— petrol and diesel or whether it's the push to— petrol and diesel or whether it's the push to away from it's the push to move away from oil it's the push to move away from ott-gae.— it's the push to move away from ott-gaeltot— it's the push to move away from oil-gas..lot.people- it's the push to move away from oil that s. lot people it's the push to move away from oil that it's lot people it's the push to move away from oil that it's a)t people it's the push to move away from oil that it's a necessity le it's the push to move away from oil that it's a necessity and think that it's a necessity and enoutt— think that it's a necessity and enoutt te. — think that it's a necessity and should be. harry,— think that it's a necessity and should be. harry, what would you like should be. harry, what would you ttte to— should be. harry, what would you ttte to eay— should be. harry, what would you ttte to eay to— should be. harry, what would you like to say to that?— should be. harry, what would you like to say to that? let's say ttretty— like to say to that? let's say ttretty ut— like to say to that? let's say firstly .uk repeatedly accuses us firstly .uk repeatedly accuses ue ot— firstly .uk repeatedly accuses ue ot tetng— firstly .uk repeatedly accuses us of being funded by fossil tuet— us of being funded by fossil fuel interests— us of being funded by fossil fuel interests from america . fuel interests from america. tnat-e— fuel interests from america. that's completely— fuel interests from america. that's completely not- fuel interests from america. that's completely not the case. he keeps repeating this falsehood, but that's entirely inaccurate . and we've never inaccurate. and we've never fought a war on energy efficiency either. we've seen schemes in the past that the government's tried to implement, which has spent huge amounts of money to achieve little . so money to achieve very little. so we'd be in favour of energy efficiency, but where it's done effectively , cost, effectively, effectively, cost, effectively, where people can actually see their bills come down. so, i mean, we're not against a lot of the measures, a lot of the regulations that have meant to the measures, a lot of the regulto ons that have meant to the measures, a lot of the regulto betterat have meant to the measures, a lot of the

regulto better fridges,�*neant to the measures, a lot of the regulto better fridges, forint to lead to better fridges, for example. these are all good things, but let's look at the detail of net zero policy. let's recognise that this is a wholesale transformation of the economy . we're not being radical economy. we're not being radical here. we're just saying this is a huge challenge . let's think a huge challenge. let's think about it carefully . let's be about it carefully. let's be wary of vested interests who are trying to get huge amounts of money for subsidies for various technologies . and we look at the technologies. and we look at the committee on climate change's approach, which is to make these forecasts about the future . forecasts about the future. these forecasts are incredibly uncertain. we don't know what the energy system of the future is going to look like. so you have these companies who want to say, we want to fill this gap. we want to fill that gap. we want to see learning by doing. we want learning by we want to see learning by competition. that will be competition. and that will be much more cost effective. and not this approach of subsidy searching and governments picking winners, which we've seen in so many areas have has failed in the past. .uk would you concede that that just

lastly , would you concede that lastly, would you concede that thatis lastly, would you concede that that is an issue? for example, you— that is an issue? for example, you coutt— that is an issue? for example, you coutt nave— that is an issue? for example, you could have the— , for example, you could have the government eutetttetng— you could have the government subsidising wind— you could have the government subsidising wind power and then in subsidising wind power and then tn ten— subsidising wind power and then tn ten yeare— subsidising wind power and then in ten years time— subsidising wind power and then in ten years time it's another energy— in ten years time it's another energy ouece— in ten years time it's another energy source that's actually far energy source that's actually tar note— energy source that's actually far more efficient, more green ant— far more efficient, more green ant wtatnot— far more efficient, more green and whatnot. so— far more efficient, more green and whatnot. so the government can and whatnot. so the government get— and whatnot. so the government get tt— and whatnot. so the government get tt wrong— and whatnot. so the government can get it wrong and the taxpayer— can get it wrong and the taxpayer te— can get it wrong and the taxpayer is on- can get it wrong and the taxpayer is on the hook . car taxpayer is on the hook. emily wnat— taxpayer is on the hook. emily what we— taxpayer is on the hook. emily what we noet— taxpayer is on the hook. emily what we need to _ taxpayer is on the hook. emily what we need to understand is this winter, new solar and new wind is getting zero subsidy from the government who are getting subsidies are harry's oil billionaires who got £100 billion of government subsidy this winter to bail us out from the fossil fuel inflation. so i .uk sorry, just for our c " so i .uk sorry, just for our viewers, wnat— .uk sorry, just for our viewers, wnat wae— .uk sorry, just for our viewers, what was that— .uk sorry, just for our viewers, what was that subsidy you're tatttng— what was that subsidy you're talking about— what was that subsidy you're talking about? _ what was that subsidy you're talking about ? what was that subsidy you're talking about? c what was that subsidy you're talking about ? c rzgr talking about? is it the energy subsidy for home businesses and energy use? this winter was £100 ttttton— energy use? this winter was £100 ttttton. tnat— energy use? this winter was £100 billion. that was— rzgr c.“ this winter was £100 billion. that was because of toeett— billion. that was because of toeett tuet— billion. that was because of fossil fuel inflation, went tnougn— fossil fuel inflation, went tnrougn tne— fossil fuel inflation, went through the roof. and we consumers— through the roof. and we consumers and businesses could not attort— consumers and businesses could not attort rt.— consumers and businesses could not afford it. and— consumers and businesses could not afford it. and that is

tecauee— not afford it. and that is because groups like harry's has ttoctet— because groups like harry's has ttoctet energy— because groups like harry's has blocked energy efficiency and tney-ve— blocked energy efficiency and they've blocked _ blocked energy efficiency and they've blocked investment in etorage— they've blocked investment in etorage ant— they've blocked investment in storage and they've blocked veetet— storage and they've blocked veetet tn— storage and they've blocked vested in renewables . �*" vested in renewables. his final wort— vested in renewables. his final wort to— vested in renewables. his final wort to you.— vested in renewables. his final word to you, harry? well, tonooka thinks— word to you, harry? well, tonooka thinks that- : 737 well, tonooka thinks that we're : pg7 well, tonooka thinks that we're far more powerful— tonooka thinks that we're far more powerful than we are . we're more powerful than we are. we're not.— more powerful than we are. we're not. tney-re— more powerful than we are. we're not. tney-re not— more powerful than we are. we're not. they're not my— more powerful than we are. we're not. they're not my oil billionaires.— not. they're not my oil billionaires. i'm completely independent.— billionaires. i'm completely independent. the gwpf is. and net independent. the gwpf is. and wet zero— independent. the gwpf is. and net zero watch _ independent. the gwpf is. and net zero watch are completely tntepentent— net zero watch are completely independent in— net zero watch are completely independent in that sense. we tuet— independent in that sense. we tuet want— independent in that sense. we just want better— independent in that sense. we just want better policy making. we just want better policy making. we want— just want better policy making. we want noe— just want better policy making. we want more scrutiny on the pottctee— we want more scrutiny on the pottctee tnat— we want more scrutiny on the policies that are— we want more scrutiny on the policies that are taking place. ant— policies that are taking place. ant tn— policies that are taking place. ant tn terme— policies that are taking place. and in terms of— policies that are taking place. and in terms of the subsidies tnat— and in terms of the subsidies tnat ne-e— and in terms of the subsidies that he's talking— and in terms of the subsidies that he's talking about, this tne— that he's talking about, this was the fact— that he's talking about, this was the fact that 5% vat is the rate— was the fact that 5% vat is the rate tnat— was the fact that 5% vat is the rate tnat you — was the fact that 5% vat is the rate that you have— was the fact that 5% vat is the rate that you have on your energy— rate that you have on your energy tatt— rate that you have on your energy bill. if— rate that you have on your energy bill. if it- rate that you have on your energy bill. if it was 20% in tne— energy bill. if it was 20% in tne taet— energy bill. if it was 20% in the last winter— energy bill. if it was 20% in the last winter ,_ energy bill. if it was 20% in the last winter , as he seems to the last winter, as he seems to be the last winter, as he seems to te aettng— the last winter, as he seems to te aettng tor,— the last winter, as he seems to be asking for, then— the last winter, as he seems to be asking for, then people's tttte— be asking for, then people's bills would— be asking for, then people's bills would be— be asking for, then people's bills would be would be even ntgner— bills would be would be even ntgner etttt. — bills would be would be even higher still. is— bills would be would be even higher still. is that really wnat— higher still. is that really wnat ne— higher still. is that really what he wants- higher still. is that really what he wants ? o" czrzrrz; what he wants? oh, well, there we go. thank you very much indeed you. director we go. thank you very much iniclimate you. director we go. thank you very much iniclimate media you. director we go. thank you very much iniclimate media coalition,:tor at climate media coalition, monica mccarthy, there and head of policy at net zero, harry will net zero. watch harry wilkinson . well, certainly not wilkinson. well, certainly not going to agree on that one. let me whose side you on me know whose side are you on on that ? you are watching that debate? you are watching and gb sunday

and listening to gb news sunday with we've got and listening to gb news sunday with more we've got and listening to gb news sunday with more to we've got and listening to gb news sunday with more to come we've got and listening to gb news sunday with more to come on we've got and listening to gb news sunday with more to come on ther've got and listening to gb news sunday with more to come on the show.t lots more to come on the show. we promised , remember we were promised, remember a bonfire eu laws after brexit. bonfire of eu laws after brexit. i want to know why we're still waiting government to waiting for the government to strike the match. but first, let's take a look at the weather with marco . hello and welcome to with marco. hello and welcome to your— with marco. hello and welcome to your-weatner— with marco. hello and welcome to your-weather update- i�*ip t hello and welcome to your weather update from your latest weather update from the your latest weather update from tne—tn— your latest weather update from tne—tn narco- the met office. i'm marco petagna.— the met office. i'm marco petagna. showers will start to ease across the _ petagna. showers will start to ease across the uk over the next rew— ease across the uk over the next rev—wttt- few days and weather will guteten— few days and weather will- quieten—towards few days and weather will- quitmiddle_towards few days and weather will quitmiddle coming vards few days and weather will quitmiddle coming week the middle of the coming week tetore— before rain arrives from the eoutnweet. — before rain arrives from the southwest. again later. southwest. once again later. rte—tow- southwest. once again later.| it's—low pressure, it's this area of low pressure, tne— it's this area of low pressure, the occluded— it's this area of low pressure, the occluded front moving out towarte— the occluded front moving out towards-east,— the occluded front moving out towards-east,-its. towards the east, taking its enowee— towards the east, taking its showers allowing showers with it, allowing a rttge— showers with it, allowing a rttge ot— showers with it, allowing a rttge ot ntgn— showers with it, allowing a ridge of high pressure to build showers with it, allowing a ridforof high pressure to build showers with it, allowing a ridfor of high asessure to build showers with it, allowing a ridforof high asesslgo to build showers with it, allowing a ridforof high asesslgo through in for a time as we go through tne— the coming week before. low preeeure nere— the coming week before. low pressure here out— the coming week before. low pressure here out towards the weet—tnngtngl west arrives later, bringing a turtner— west arrives later, bringing a further-from - further rain in from the southwest,— further rain in from the. southwest, _from southwest, certainly from tnuretay— southwest, certainly from thursday- backi southwest, certainly from thursday back to southwest, certainly from - thursday-back to the thursday onwards, back to the tetatt— thursday onwards, back to the tetatt tor— thursday onwards, back to the detail for this— thursday onwards, back to the detail for this evening and overntgtt— overnight. and we have a thunderstorm _ overnight. and we have a- thunderstorm _force thunderstorm warning in force across northern ireland. soutnern— across northern ireland. southern until southern parts of scotland until enoo— southern parts of scotland until eeoe tnte— southern parts of scotland until 9:00 this evening.— southern parts of scotland until 9:00 this evening. those showers, , starting 9:00 this evening. those- showers,-, starting to 9:00 this evening. those show across , starting to 9:00 this evening. those show across northwestern] to 9:00 this evening. those show across northwestern areas ease across northwestern areas overntgnt— ease across northwestern areas overntgnt wttn— ease across northwestern areas overnight with more the way ease across northwestern areas ov clearit with more the way ease across northwestern areas ov clearit with around the way ease across northwestern areas ov clearit with around here.vay ease across northwestern areas ov clearit with around here. but of clear spells around here. but nottce— of clear spells around here. but nottce ettt— of clear spells around here. but notice still-few- of clear spells around here. but notice still few showers notice still quite a few showers acroeeeaeern—t- notice still quite a few showersi across—eastern parts notice still quite a few showers ac england eastern parts notice still quite a few showers ac england earshoweryts notice still quite a few showers ac england earshowery rain of england and some showery rain ateo— of england and some showery rain ateo novtng— of england and some showery rain also moving south— of england and some showery rain also moving south into parts of nortnern— also moving south into parts of northern scotland _ also moving south into parts of northern scotland in the clear epette—tne- northern scotland in the clear spells—the west.i spells out towards the west. temperatures_ spells out towards the west. . temperatures_ get

temperatures could locally get town— temperatures could locally get town tnto— temperatures could locally get down into low— temperatures could locally get down into low figures, down into low single figures, tut—up- down into low single figures, tut—up tn| down into low single figures,- tut—up tn tne but generally holding up in the range— but generally holding up in the range 6— but generally holding up in the range to to— but generally holding up in the range to to rt— but generally holding up in the range 6 to 11 celsius. as for wontay— range 6 to 11 celsius. as for wontay .— range 6 to 11 celsius. as for monday , bank— range 6 to 11 celsius. as for monday , bank holiday, monday, of monday, bank holiday, monday, of coureea- rew— monday, bank holiday, monday, of course, a few showers course, quite a few showers ettt— course, quite a few showers etttt to— course, quite a few showers still to _with - course, quite a few showers still to with across still to contend with across centrat— still to contend with across central i south _ still to contend with across central south eastern of central, south eastern parts of tngtant— central, south eastern parts of. tngtant—nere central, south eastern parts of- tngtant—nere tn england. some heavy ones here in the england. some heavy ones here in tne-ant— england. some heavy ones here in tne-ant eoe- england. some heavy ones here in the and some showery the afternoon and some showery ran— the afternoon and some showery ateo— the afternoon and some showery ateo novtng— the afternoon and some showery rain also moving across rain also moving south across pane— rain also moving south across parts-scotland— rain also moving south across parts scotland through parts of scotland through the tay. — parts of scotland through the| tay. —tne day. whereas out towards the weet—nucni west and southwest, a much better— west and southwest, a much tetter tay— west and southwest, a much better day here— west and southwest, a much better day here than on sunday, rnoreo—t— better day here than on sunday, more _of sunshine . more in the way of sunshine arount— more in the way of sunshine. around—sunshine . around and then the sunshine. tenperaturee— around and then the sunshine. temperatures still doing quite wett—year- temperatures still doing quite wett—year .- temperatures still doing quite wept—ygg., upi temperatures still doing quite. wett—year, up to well for the time of year, up to 18 well for the time of year, up to teln— well for the time of year, up to renter-town- well for the time of year, up to 18 19 down towards well for the time of year, up to 18 south—east down towards well for the time of year, up to 18 south—east still/n towards well for the time of year, up to 18 south—east still chilly,irds the south—east still chilly, tnougn— the south—east still chilly, tnougn-tne- the south—east still chilly, though,-the far. though, towards the far nonneaet— though, towards the far northeast scotland as we go northeast of scotland as we go tnrougn— northeast of scotland as we go tnrougn tne— northeast of scotland as we go through the evening and overntgnt— through the evening and overnight period on monday. stit— overnight period on monday. still-showers- overnight period on monday. still-showers to- overnight period on monday. still showers to contend still some showers to contend wttn— still some showers to contend with .towards _ still some showers to contend with .towards-far- still some showers to contend. with .towards-far-of still some showers to contend witiuk towards far of still some showers to contend witiuk , towards far of still some showers to contend witiuk , butards far of still some showers to contend witiuk , but becominglr of still some showers to contend witiuk , but becoming fewer of still some showers to contend witiuk , but becoming fewer and the uk, but becoming fewer and turtner— the uk, but becoming fewer and turtner-tn— the uk, but becoming fewer and turtner-tn r— the uk, but becoming fewer and further-in1or- further between in 1 or 2 enowee— further between in 1 or 2 showers still— further between in 1 or 2 showers still towards far showers still towards the far nonneaet— showers still towards the far northeast there _ showers still towards the far northeast there well. but on northeast there as well. but on the northeast there as well. but on tne wtote— northeast there as well. but on the whole, it's— northeast there as well. but on the whole, it's a— northeast there as well. but on the whole, it's a drier picture. ene— the whole, it's a drier picture. ene-ot— the whole, it's a drier picture. ene-ot-epettel one the way of clear spells arount—tne - one the way of clear spells around _the bluej around and notice the blue cooute— around and notice the blue colours—chartl colours there on the chart tnttcattng— colours there on the chart indicating some chilly temperatures for parts of scottant— temperatures for parts of scotland by— temperatures for parts of scotland by tuesday morning. tueetay— scotland by tuesday morning. tuesday itself— scotland by tuesday morning. tuesday itself looks a quieter tay. —ntgn- tuesday itself looks a quieter day. high pressure day. a ridge of high pressure etarttng— day. a ridge of high pressure etarttng-tn- day. a ridge of high pressure starting-in-the| starting to build in from the weet— starting to build in from the weet .— starting to build in from the weet , eo— starting to build in from the weet , eo-tn— starting to build in from the west, so-in-way. west, so more in the way of eunenrne— west, so more in the way of eunetne-r- west, so more in the way of eunetne-r or- west, so more in the way of sunshine.-1 or 2- west, so more in the way of- sunshine.-1 or 2 showers, sunshine. around 1 or 2 showers, natnty—tne- sunshine. around 1 or 2 showers, natnty—tne tari mainly confined towards the far nortn—eaet— mainly confined towards the far north—east perhaps some cloud mainly confined towards the far north—southern aps some cloud mainly confined towards the far north—southern scotlandr cloud

mainly confined towards the far north—southern scotland ,:loud mainly confined towards the far north—southern scotland , parts across southern scotland, parts of across southern scotland, parts ot nonnern— across southern scotland, parts of northern central england. of northern and central england. but of northern and central england. out on— of northern and central england. out on tne— of northern and central england. but on the whole,— of northern and central england. but on the whole, certainly more of northern and central england. but onway whole, certainly more of northern and central england. but onway wibrightertainly more of northern and central england. but onway waright weathernore in the way of bright weather arount— around and temperatures still totng— around and temperatures still tong—tn- around and temperatures still totng—tn tne- around and temperatures still. doing—in the sunshine doing quite well in the sunshine wttn— doing quite well in the sunshine wttt—conel doing quite well in the sunshinei wttt—cone on with further sunshine to come on wetneetay— with further sunshine to come on wednesday—beforel wednesday across the uk before ratn— wednesday across the uk before rain arrives from _ wednesday across the uk before rain arrives from the southwest tater— rain arrives from the southwest tater tn— rain arrives from the southwest tater tn tne— rain arrives from the southwest later in the-that's- rain arrives from the southwest later in the that's it. rain arrives from the southwest late bye the that's it.

news radio. welcome news radio. - i welcome back. news radio. _ i welcome back. you're wewe tatto. — - welcome back. you're watching welcome back. you're watching and - welcome back. you're watching ant ttetentng— . welcome back. you're watching ant ttetentng to— . welcome back. you're watching and listening to gb— welcome back. you're watching and listening to gb sunday and listening to gb news sunday wttn— and listening to gb news sunday wttt—on- and listening to gb news sunday wttt—on yourl and listening to gb news sunday| wttt—on your tv with me, emily carver on your tv ant— with me, emily carver on your tv ant-.— with me, emily carver on your tv ant-. wow,— with me, emily carver on your tv ant-. now we— with me, emily carver on your tv and-. now, we were- with me, emily carver on your tv and . now, we were promised and radio. now, we were promised and radio. now, we were promised a tonne— and radio. now, we were promised a tonttre ot— and radio. now, we were promised a tonttre ot tu— and radio. now, we were promised a bonfire of eu laws— and radio. now, we were promised a bonfire of eu laws , weren't a bonfire of eu laws, weren't wee— a bonfire of eu laws, weren't wee nut— a bonfire of eu laws, weren't we? but what— a bonfire of eu laws, weren't we? but what we're actually getttng— we? but what we're actually getttng te— we? but what we're actually getttng te a— we? but what we're actually getting is a fire— we? but what we're actually getting is a fire that won't keep— getting is a fire that won't keep you— getting is a fire that won't keep you warm - getting is a fire that won't keep you warm on a chilly night . tne— keep you warm on a chilly night . the government— keep you warm on a chilly night . the government is ditching ptane— . the government is ditching ptane to— . the government is ditching ptane to ecrap— . the government is ditching plans to scrap up to 4000 eu tawe— plans to scrap up to 4000 eu tawe ty— plans to scrap up to 4000 eu tawe ty tne— plans to scrap up to 4000 eu laws by the end— plans to scrap up to 4000 eu laws by the end of the year arter— laws by the end of the year atter a— laws by the end of the year after a private— laws by the end of the year after a private meeting with nrevtteer— after a private meeting with brexiteer mps. _ after a private meeting with brexiteer mps. brexiteer mps. were-e— brexiteer mps. brexiteer mps. were-e wnat— brexiteer mps. brexiteer mps. here's what jacob rees—mogg said on on— here's what jacob rees—mogg said on on wewe— here's what jacob rees—mogg said on gb news this— here's what jacob rees—mogg said on gb news this week is grasp treetone— on gb news this week is grasp our freedoms with— on gb news this week is grasp our freedoms with both hands, not tuet— our freedoms with both hands, not tuet to— our freedoms with both hands, not just to take— our freedoms with both hands, not just to take the easy route of not just to take the easy route ot ettcttng— not just to take the easy route of sticking closely to the eu, tottowtng— of sticking closely to the eu, tottowtng tt— of sticking closely to the eu, following it as— of sticking closely to the eu,

following it as a— of sticking closely to the eu, following it as a regulatory taee. — following it as a regulatory taee. tut— following it as a regulatory base. but grasping- following it as a regulatory base. g g base. but grasping the opportunity to be genuinely free, competitive, to have the famous supply side reforms that may lead to economic growth . and may lead to economic growth. and not doing that shows a lack of ambition from the civil service . yes, and the problem here, as i understand it, is the civil service doesn't want to deliver because the minister in charge, kemi badenoch, is one of the most dynamic ministers in the government in many ways. if she can't do it, it must be that there is a real detailed obstacle jewel there of delivery by those who are paid to deliver because a lot of the work has already been prepared. and there's a dashboard that actually was done when i was minister for brexit opportunities that sets out thousands of these rules. so you can see what they are. can can see what they are. you can see how much better off we'd be without them . all right. joining without them. all right. joining me now is catherine— all right. joining me now is catherine mcbride , me now is catherine mcbride, tettow— me now is catherine mcbride, tettow at— me now is catherine mcbride, fellow at the— me now is catherine mcbride, fellow at the centre for brexit tottcy— fellow at the centre for brexit tottcy ,— fellow at the centre for brexit tottcy , to — fellow at the centre for brexit policy , to discuss— fellow at the centre for brexit policy , to discuss that. policy, to discuss that. catherine _ policy, to discuss that. catherine thank you very much tnteet— catherine thank you very much tnteet tor— catherine thank you very much indeed for joining— catherine thank you very much

indeed forjoining me this indeed for joining me this atternoon. — indeed for joining me this afternoon. so— indeed for joining me this afternoon. so you heard what jacob— afternoon. so you heard what jacob rees—mogg had to there jacob rees—mogg had to say there . nee— jacob rees—mogg had to say there . ne-e atanant— jacob rees—mogg had to say there . he's adamant that— jacob rees—mogg had to say there . he's adamant that we need to be . he's adamant that we need to bra-,— . he's adamant that we need to te-, not— . he's adamant that we need to be-, not shelving- . he's adamant that we need to be , not shelving the be scrapping, not shelving the ecrap— be scrapping, not shelving the ecrap on— be scrapping, not shelving the ecrap on tnte— be scrapping, not shelving the scrap on this bonfire of eu laws . ne— scrap on this bonfire of eu laws . we ateo— scrap on this bonfire of eu laws . we ateo eart— scrap on this bonfire of eu laws . he also said that— scrap on this bonfire of eu laws . he also said that the civil eervtce— . he also said that the civil eervtce nay— . he also said that the civil service may be— . he also said that the civil service may be partially to ptane— service may be partially to ttane tetng— service may be partially to blame being obstructive. do you do blame being obstructive. do you to you— blame being obstructive. do you to you agree— blame being obstructive. do you to you agree e — blame being obstructive. do you do you agree ? �*frrrzgc blame being obstructive. do you do you agree ? do you agree? well, someone is definitely resisting this. and it's not just the civil service . we've also seen stella creasy , who's a member or in fact the chairwoman of labour for europe or something like that . and then or something like that. and then there's another group of people in the house of lords who believe it or not, believe they are standing up for democracy. these are the unelected house of lords by blocking this. so there's quite a few people in westminster who are definitely doing their best to resist change. if you go on to what jacob— change. if you go on to what jacob rees—mogg_ t g if you go on to what jacob rees—mogg calls a dashboard,— jacob rees—mogg calls a dashboard, but i would call an racet—

dashboard, but i would call an excel spreadsheet— dashboard, but i would call an excel spreadsheet , it's very excel spreadsheet, it's very eaey— excel spreadsheet, it's very eaey to— excel spreadsheet, it's very eaey to eat— excel spreadsheet, it's very easy to read all— excel spreadsheet, it's very easy to read all of the laws tnat— easy to read all of the laws tnat tney-re— easy to read all of the laws that they're talking about . that they're talking about. the torto— that they're talking about. the torts ctatn — that they're talking about. the lords claim that— that they're talking about. the lords claim that they- that they're talking about. the lords claim that they are taking away our rights , but if they'd away our rights, but if they'd like to point out which particular eu laws those are that give us rights , i'd be that give us rights, i'd be really interested to see them and i'm sure that can be badenochs department would be happy to fish those ones out, out and we'll keep those. but most of them are really silly. i mean , there's actually a law in mean, there's actually a law in there which is simply called . there which is simply called. the 1997 potatoes, originating in the netherlands. regulation i mean, do we really need that one on our on our books ? there's on our on our books? there's another one which actually just gives us eu institutions and bodies access to our datasets and data services . now if we and data services. now if we want to give them access to our data services , we can do that. data services, we can do that. but we shouldn't have a law demanding that we do it. and that seems to be what we have at

the moment . we've got a whole the moment. we've got a whole lot of regulations . some of them lot of regulations. some of them are just crazy . there's 1 or 2 are just crazy. there's 1 or 2 where the description goes for on like two lines and it's just a procedural way of setting out how you recognise another eu law . it goes on and on. and you read this and think, well, why do we need this? well, i'm glad you came, catherine— do we need this? well, i'm glad you came, catherine .— r:rzr : 57 well, i'm glad you came, catherine . sorry, so you came, catherine. sorry, so eorry— you came, catherine. sorry, so eorry to— you came, catherine. sorry, so sorry to interrupt— you came, catherine. sorry, so sorry to interrupt you, catherine, _ sorry to interrupt you, catherine, but i'm glad you came preparet— catherine, but i'm glad you came preparet wttn— catherine, but i'm glad you came prepared with some— catherine, but i'm glad you came prepared with some examples tecauee— prepared with some examples tecauee r— prepared with some examples because i perhaps naively tnougnt— because i perhaps naively thought that— because i perhaps naively thought that this would be one of thought that this would be one ot tne— thought that this would be one ot tne ttret— thought that this would be one of the first things— thought that this would be one of the first things we did upon neatt— of the first things we did upon nrevtt tntng— of the first things we did upon brexit thing would be to go tnrougn— brexit thing would be to go tnrougn att— brexit thing would be to go through all of— brexit thing would be to go through all of the eu laws and regutattone— through all of the eu laws and regulations with— through all of the eu laws and regulations with a fine tooth cont,— regulations with a fine tooth comb, decide _ regulations with a fine tooth comb, decide which ones benefit our economy, which ones don't, ant— our economy, which ones don't, ant tnete— our economy, which ones don't, ant tnere we— our economy, which ones don't, ant tnere we go. — our economy, which ones don't, and there we go. we'd go from tnete— and there we go. we'd go from tnere .— and there we go. we'd go from tnere . — and there we go. we'd go from tnere . on.— and there we go. we'd go from there . oh, for— and there we go. we'd go from there . oh, for sure. - and there we go. we'd go from there . oh, for sure. i- and there we go. we'd go from there. oh, for sure. i think everyone did . and weirdly, a lot everyone did. and weirdly, a lot of politicians have promised this, including our present prime minister, who when he was running for the position last summer, you might remember , he

summer, you might remember, he made quite a good ad of him putting what was meant to be eu law in the shredder , and he was law in the shredder, and he was going to do all of this in the first 100 days of his premiership. inaya said. we're up to day 187. yes, i'm counting . and so far, no, nothing's gone into the shredder, except maybe some of his promises. so i think that it's time that we actually started putting the laws in the in the shredder and if someone because some of them have been amended and because they didn't have time to do it before we left , they dumped the whole lot left, they dumped the whole lot onto the uk statute books . so onto the uk statute books. so the amendments required them merely to change the authority from an eu department in brussels to the secretary of state in the uk. so some of the amendments they needed were quite slight. so the idea that the house of lords is saying, oh, we're getting rid of all of these rights, yeah . and the bbc

these rights, yeah. and the bbc is pushing this as well. they tried to claim that all of our environmental laws came from the eu. yes, catherine . sorry, sorry eu. yes, catherine. sorry, sorry to tnterrupt— eu. yes, catherine. sorry, sorry to interrupt you. _ eu. yes, catherine. sorry, sorry to interrupt you. i'm— rv/rz;~;: sorry, sorry to interrupt you. i'm sorry. i can run and run— to interrupt you. i'm sorry. i can run and run on this. no no, tn— can run and run on this. no no, tn tuet— can run and run on this. no no, tn we eat— can run and run on this. no no, no. i'm just sad we've run out of no. i'm just sad we've run out ot-tt— no. i'm just sad we've run out ot-tt tove— no. i'm just sad we've run out ot-tt tove to— no. i'm just sad we've run out of i'd love to speak to of time. i'd love to speak to you— of time. i'd love to speak toi yournore— you again about this in more tetatt.— you again about this in more detail. thank— you again about this in more detail. thank very much detail. thank you very much tnteet—tne- indeed for getting the conversation going. that was catnenne— conversation going. that was catherine mcbride, fellow at the centre— catherine mcbride, fellow at the centre tor— catherine mcbride, fellow at the centre for brexit— catherine mcbride, fellow at the centre for brexit policy. let me know— centre for brexit policy. let me know-you— centre for brexit policy. let me know-you think- centre for brexit policy. let me know you think about that. know what you think about that. toure— know what you think about that. you're watching— know what you think about that. you're watching_to| you're watching and listening to gb you're watching and listening to en -suntay— you're watching and listening to en _s..ggy-mg,- you're watching and listening to gb sunday me, emily gb news sunday with me, emily carver.— gb news sunday with me, emily carver—,— gb news sunday with me, emily cane.._, tne- gb news sunday with me, emily carver. , the illegal carver. still ahead, the illegal ntgratton—ttel migration bill has passed its tntt— migration bill has passed its third reading— migration bill has passed its third reading the commons, third reading in the commons, but third reading in the commons, tut wttt— third reading in the commons, tut wttt tne— third reading in the commons, but will the bill— third reading in the commons, but will the bill the but will the bill survive? the totte— but will the bill survive? the torte e— but will the bill survive? the torte e nut— but will the bill survive? the lords ? but first,— but will the bill survive? the lords ? but first, let's get the lords? but first, let's get the news-tatiana- lords? but first, let's get the news tatiana sanchez . news with tatiana sanchez. tantty.— news with tatiana sanchez. tntty. ttant— news with tatiana sanchez. emily, thank you— news with tatiana sanchez. emily, thank you very- news with tatiana sanchez. emily, thank you very much and good afternoon. this is the latest from the newsroom. the red cross has sent planes with medical supplies to the port of sudan. medical supplies to the port of sudan . that's following the sudan. that's following the final evacuation flight carrying british nationals that departed khartoum late last night. deputy

prime minister oliver dowden says rescue operations ended following a significant decline in the number of british nationals coming forward to flee. nearly 1900 people on 21 flights have been evacuated . flights have been evacuated. however, there are still thousands of british citizens stuck amid fighting . in nhs stuck amid fighting. in nhs nurses across the country will walk out from 8:00 this evening in a dispute over pay for 28 hours, 54% of rcn members rejected the government s offer of a 5% pay rise. the general secretary of the rcn pat cullen has said nurses have worked tirelessly with nhs england to make sure their strike is safe for patients . great ormond for patients. great ormond street hospital is among organisations where nurses have agreed to keep limited staff on after voicing serious concerns about patient safety during the walkout . nhs about patient safety during the walkout. nhs england is urging the public to use the health service wisely and says emergency and urgent care would remain the priority . for five

remain the priority. for five people, including an eight year old child, have been killed in a shooting at a home in texas. officials from the san jacinto county sheriff's office attended the scene after they received a call about harassment . several call about harassment. several victims had been shot by the time police arrived. the suspect is armed and still on the run . is armed and still on the run. the british army has begun rehearsals for the coronation of king charles. soldiers from all divisions of the armed forces have gathered at training areas across south london to prepare for the biggest ceremonial event of their lives. they've flown home from operational or home from operational duties or training exercises from as far as cyprus, iraq, kenya and estonia to represent their regiments and corpse at the event. regiments and corpse at the event . and the stone of destiny event. and the stone of destiny has been welcomed to england in a special ceremony ahead of the event. it dates back to the 12th century and is normally on display at edinburgh castle. it will sit under the king's throne next week and has been used in

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forward from this. join us here on gb news, the people's channel britain . welcome i'm back. britain. welcome i'm back. you're watching— britain. welcome i'm back. you're watching and- p t i'm back. you're watching and listening to gb you're watching and listening to en wewe— you're watching and listening to gb news sunday— you're watching and listening to gb news sunday with me, emily carver— gb news sunday with me, emily carver-tw— gb news sunday with me, emily carver-w ant- gb news sunday with me, emily carver tv and radio. now carver on your tv and radio. now youve— carver on your tv and radio. now youve teen— carver on your tv and radio. now you've been getting— carver on your tv and radio. now you've been getting in touch. tet-e— you've been getting in touch. tet-e reat— you've been getting in touch. let's read what— you've been getting in touch. let's read what you've been eenttng— let's read what you've been eenttng tn— let's read what you've been sending in on— let's read what you've been sending in on pledging allegiance— sending in on pledging allegiance to the king. mark eaye— allegiance to the king. mark eaye we— allegiance to the king. mark eaye, we wttt— allegiance to the king. mark says, we will certainly be ptetgtng— says, we will certainly be pledging allegiance as pledging our allegiance as tnnce— pledging our allegiance as prince charles.— pledging our allegiance as prince charles. he has worked ttreteeety— prince charles. he has worked ttreteeety to — prince charles. he has worked tirelessly to support many very wortnwntte— tirelessly to support many very worthwhile charities and raised nuntrete— worthwhile charities and raised nuntrete ot— worthwhile charities and raised hundreds of millions for the neety— hundreds of millions for the neety. tnat-e— hundreds of millions for the needy. that's a— hundreds of millions for the needy. that's a nice message. tote— needy. that's a nice message. tote ot— needy. that's a nice message. tote ot peopte— needy. that's a nice message. lots of people have been etaggtng— lots of people have been slagging him _ lots of people have been slagging him off for want of a better— slagging him off for want of a better phrase,— slagging him off for want of a better phrase, heather says, i wttt— better phrase, heather says, i wttt not— better phrase, heather says, i wttt not te— better phrase, heather says, i will not be pledging allegiance to ttng— will not be pledging allegiance to king charles.— will not be pledging allegiance to king charles. i— will not be pledging allegiance to king charles. i believe that his behaviour— to king charles. i believe that his behaviour as— to king charles. i believe that his behaviour as a role model tne—

his behaviour as a role model across the last— his behaviour as a role model across the last 40— his behaviour as a role model across the last 40 years has teen— across the last 40 years has been appallingly disgraceful . been appallingly disgraceful. wett— been appallingly disgraceful. wett tnete— been appallingly disgraceful. well, there you— been appallingly disgraceful. well, there you go, very much tne— well, there you go, very much tne oppoette— well, there you go, very much the opposite view— well, there you go, very much the opposite view to balance on the opposite view to balance on tne tnceaee— the opposite view to balance on the increase in— the opposite view to balance on the increase in stis— the opposite view to balance on the increase in stis sexually transmitted— the increase in stis sexually transmitted infections over bank notttay— transmitted infections over bank holiday weekend— transmitted infections over bank holiday weekend .— transmitted infections over bank holiday weekend . as susan says, holiday weekend. as susan says, as holiday weekend. as susan says, ae an otter— holiday weekend. as susan says, as an older person,— holiday weekend. as susan says, as an older person, all that eaye— as an older person, all that eaye to— as an older person, all that eaye to me— as an older person, all that eaye to me te— as an older person, all that says to me is the- as an older person, all that says to me is the morality of tnte— says to me is the morality of tie country— says to me is the morality of this country has— says to me is the morality of this country has plummeted in my eoctat— this country has plummeted in my eoctat ctrcte— this country has plummeted in my social circle at— this country has plummeted in my social circle at any— this country has plummeted in my social circle at any age. no one, including— social circle at any age. no one, including myself , would one, including myself, would ever dream about going out and navtng— ever dream about going out and navtng ee— ever dream about going out and having sex with— ever dream about going out and having sex with someone we have just having sex with someone we have tuet net.— having sex with someone we have we met. on— having sex with someone we have we met. on, yee— having sex with someone we have just met. oh, yes. perhaps sex nae— just met. oh, yes. perhaps sex nae tecone— just met. oh, yes. perhaps sex nae tecone a— just met. oh, yes. perhaps sex has become a little too casual, at teaet— has become a little too casual, at teaet wnen— has become a little too casual, at least when it— has become a little too casual, at least when it comes to infections. _ at least when it comes to infections. but— at least when it comes to infections. but it's good. we neet— infections. but it's good. we neet to— infections. but it's good. we need to inform _ infections. but it's good. we need to inform form people that this need to inform form people that we re— need to inform form people that we te tne— need to inform form people that this is the case.— need to inform form people that this is the case. and on kenny teen— this is the case. and on kenny teen ttatne— this is the case. and on kenny keen, elaine says— this is the case. and on kenny keen, elaine says fantastic news teature— keen, elaine says fantastic news teature to— keen, elaine says fantastic news feature to attend— keen, elaine says fantastic news feature to attend the live let speak— feature to attend the live let women speak rally park women speak rally in hyde park tnant—tnte- women speak rally in hyde park thank—this and| thank you for covering this and i thank you for covering this and r very— thank you for covering this and r very-nope— thank you for covering this and i very-hope-will- i very much hope this will be a reguta— i very much hope this will be a regular feature. _ i very much hope this will be a regular feature. maybe. i attentet— regular feature. maybe. i attended belfast rally as i attended the belfast rally as i am a member this great am a member of this great movement. well, there you go. tnant— movement. well, there you go. tnant you— movement. well, there you go. tnant you very— movement. well, there you go. thank you very much indeed. i'm sure . i'm sure gb— thank you very much indeed. i'm sure . i'm sure gb news sure. i'm sure gb news preeentere— sure. i'm sure gb news presenters talking sure. i'm sure gb news- presenters _talking to presenters will be talking to kenny— presenters will be talking to tenny teen— presenters will be talking to kenny keen again. was great presenters will be talking to ke get keen again. was great presenters will be talking to ke get hern again. was great presenters will be talking to ke get her live ain. was great presenters will be talking to ke get her live from was great presenters will be talking to ke get her live from was park. to get her live from hyde park. tteaee— to get her live from hyde park. tteaee to— to get 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please do keep your views coming tn. —voutute- in. subscribe to our youtube ctannet— in. subscribe to our youtube ctannet-at— in. subscribe to our youtube channel.-at gb- in. subscribe to our youtube channel. at gb news news channel. we're at gb news news novtng— channel. we're at gb news news novtng on— channel. we're at gb news news now. moving on, the illegal ntgratton— now. moving on, the illegal migration bill,— now. moving on, the illegal migration bill, mps voted in tavour— migration bill, mps voted in tavour ot— migration bill, mps voted in tavour ot tt— migration bill, mps voted in favour of it in— migration bill, mps voted in favour of it in the commons. tnte— favour of it in the commons. tnte weet. — favour of it in the commons. this week. the— favour of it in the commons. this week. the new bill is of a key— this week. the new bill is of course a key part— this week. the new bill is of course a key part of the prime wtnteter-e— course a key part of the prime minister's-to— course a key part of the prime minister's-to stop- course a key part of the prime minister's to stop small minister's plan to stop small toate— minister's plan to stop small boats crossing— minister's plan to stop small boats crossing the channel into the boats crossing the channel into tne wt.— boats crossing the channel into tne wt. tne— boats crossing the channel into the uk. the law— boats crossing the channel into the uk. the law will place a tuty— the uk. the law will place a tuty on— the uk. the law will place a duty on suella_ the uk. the law will place a duty on suella braverman to remove migrants— duty on suella braverman to remove migrants arrived remove migrants who arrived tttegatty— remove migrants who arrived tttegatty ant— remove migrants who arrived illegally and radically narrow the illegally and radically narrow tne-tegat— illegally and radically narrow the legal challenges the range of legal challenges ant— the range of legal challenges ant appeate— the range of legal challenges and appeals that could suspend tnetr— and appeals that could suspend their deportation.— and appeals that could suspend their deportation. so joining me te— their deportation. so joining me te ten— their deportation. so joining me now is ben habib,_ their deportation. so joining me now is ben habib, former brexit party— now is ben habib, former brexit tarty attr— now is ben habib, former brexit party mep immigration lawyer party mep and immigration lawyer ivan party mep and immigration lawyer rvan stnpeon. — party mep and immigration lawyer ivan simpson. thank you very nucn— ivan simpson. thank you very rnucn to— ivan simpson. thank you very rnucn to you— ivan simpson. thank you very much to you both— ivan simpson. thank you very much to you both forjoining me. much to you both for joining me. ten— much to you both for joining me. nen ttt— much to you both for joining me. nen ttt etart— much to you both for joining me. ben i'll start with— much to you both for joining me. ben i'll start with you now . ben i'll start with you now. vouve— ben i'll start with you now. vouve teen— ben i'll start with you now. you've been rather sceptical of tnte— you've been rather sceptical of tie tttt — you've been rather sceptical of this bill. well,— you've been rather sceptical of this bill. well, i— you've been rather sceptical of this bill. �*frrrzgc p : p c this bill. well, i mean, i don't think that deportation is a route to stopping the boats from coming deportation , assuming it coming deportation, assuming it works, is what you do when people have succeed in breaching your border control and have come into your country. so it seems rather peculiar- , so it seems rather peculiar for me the teportatton— seems rather peculiar for me the deportation would— seems rather peculiar for me the deportation would be the prism if deportation would be the prism tt you— deportation would be the prism tt you ttte. — deportation would be the prism if you like. that— deportation would be the prism if you like. g if you like. that government seems to be hitching its wagon

to and i think the principle behind their approach is that they're deportation program. rwanda the detention of these people and their inability to apply for asylum under this new law that she wishes to pass will be enough of a deterrent to make sure that people don't cross the channelin sure that people don't cross the channel in the first place. but if you think about it,- channel in the first place. but if you think about it, you- p p 7 t but if you think about it, you know, tneee— if you think about it, you know, tneee peopte— if you think about it, you know, these people have— if you think about it, you know, these people have come thousands of these people have come thousands ot nttee— these people have come thousands of miles. they've— these people have come thousands of miles. they've paid an extraordinary— of miles. they've paid an- extraordinary—money of miles. they've paid an- extraordinary_money to extraordinary amount of money to eoee—tne— extraordinary amount of money to cross—the chance. extraordinary amount of money to cross—the chance ofi cross the channel. the chance of men,— cross the channel. the chance of them, you— cross the channel. the chance of them, you-tne— cross the channel. the chance of them, you the small them, you know, the very small cannce — them, you know, the very small cannce ot— them, you know, the very small chance of them— them, you know, the very small chance of them being apprehended, detained and then eucceeetutty— apprehended, detained and then successfully deported when all the successfully deported when all tne etgnate— successfully deported when all the signals are— successfully deported when all the signals are quite the oppoette— the signals are quite the oppoette. r— the signals are quite the opposite. i think just simply won-t— opposite. i think just simply won-t act— opposite. i think just simply won-t act ae— opposite. i think just simply won't act as a— opposite. i think just simply won't act as a deterrent . and won't act as a deterrent. and tt— won't act as a deterrent. and moreover, if her— won't act as a deterrent. and moreover, if her bill were to reatty— moreover, if her bill were to reatty wk,— moreover, if her bill were to really work, she— moreover, if her bill were to really work, she would have to nave — really work, she would have to nave tne — really work, she would have to have the united— really work, she would have to have the united kingdom at least terogate— have the united kingdom at least terogate tron— have the united kingdom at least derogate from certain aspects of the derogate from certain aspects of tne turopean— derogate from certain aspects of the european convention of human rtgnte— the european convention of human rtgnte. ant— the european convention of human tttgnte. ant tn— the european convention of human rights. and in fact— the european convention of human rights. and in fact ,— the european convention of human rights. and in fact , quite the rights. and in fact, quite the pit— rights. and in fact, quite the tttt eaye— rights. and in fact, quite the bill says quite— rights. and in fact, quite the bill says quite the opposite . bill says quite the opposite. wnen— bill says quite the opposite. wnen you— bill says quite the opposite. wnen you get— bill says quite the opposite. when you get down to section 51 of when you get down to section 51 ot tne— when you get down to section 51 ot tne ttt— when you get down to section 51 of the bill, what— when you get down to section 51 of the bill, what it— when you get down to section 51 of the bill, what it gives the secretary— of the bill, what it gives the secretary ot— of the bill, what it gives the secretary of state is a direct carve— secretary of state is a direct carve out— secretary of state is a direct carve out for— secretary of state is a direct carve out for rulings from the

turopean— carve out for rulings from the european court— carve out for rulings from the european court of— carve out for rulings from the european court of human rights. so european court of human rights. so tt— european court of human rights. so tt gtvee— european court of human rights. so tt gtvee tne— european court of human rights. so it gives the secretary of state— so it gives the secretary of state tne— so it gives the secretary of state the ability to change her ntnt— state the ability to change her ntnt or— state the ability to change her ntnt or tne— state the ability to change her mind or the courts in this country— mind or the courts in this country to— mind or the courts in this country to change their minds paeet— country to change their minds taeet on— country to change their minds based on echr_ country to change their minds based on echr rulings . and given based on echr rulings. and given that based on echr rulings. and given tnat were— based on echr rulings. and given tnat a— based on echr rulings. and given that we're a member of the turopean— that we're a member of the european convention of human rtgnte— european convention of human rtgnte we— european convention of human rights, we-have- european convention of human rights, we have to take rights, we would have to take you—nave- rights, we would have to take you—nave to- rights, we would have to take you—have to take. you know, we'd have to take great— you know, we'd have to take great nottce— you know, we'd have to take great notice of— you know, we'd have to take great notice of what those ruttnge— great notice of what those ruttnge — great notice of what those rulings are. so— great notice of what those rulings are. so i think the ttttgatton— rulings are. so i think the litigation, the— rulings are. so i think the litigation, the you know, the taw— litigation, the you know, the taw toeen-t— litigation, the you know, the law doesn't work. and i don't tntnt— law doesn't work. and i don't tntnt tne— law doesn't work. and i don't think the principle of the law vorte— think the principle of the law worte . — think the principle of the law works . well,— think the principle of the law works . well, there- think the principle of the law works. �*frrrzgc ter.z; ' works. well, there you go. a assessment out there from ben habib. ivan would you agree that deportation action is not the deterrent out that we're being told it would be? it could be. and do you think the government's going about this the like says , i the wrong way? like ben says, i agree with much of what ben said , just to talk about the law first, the secretary of state under section two of the human rights act must take into account rulings of strasbourg. it doesn't say when you feel ttte— it doesn't say when you feel ttte tt— it doesn't say when you feel ttte tt or— it doesn't say when you feel ttte tt or you— it doesn't say when you feel like it or you can— it doesn't say when you feel like it or you can ignore it. it like it or you can ignore it. rt eart— like it or you can ignore it. rt eatt tte— like it or you can ignore it. it said the secretary- like it or you can ignore it. it said the secretary of- like it or you can ignore it. it said the secretary of state must the courts must take into

account. so this bill and this if it becomes law, would be a clear breach of the law and a disobedience of the law by ministers of the crown . i think ministers of the crown. i think geoffrey robinson _ ministers of the crown. i think geoffrey robinson said- p i think geoffrey robinson said something etnttar— geoffrey robinson said something etnttar tn— geoffrey robinson said something etnttar tn tne— geoffrey robinson said something similar in the house of commons recentty— similar in the house of commons recentty . — similar in the house of commons recently . that's— similar in the house of commons recently . that's the— similar in the house of commons recently . 7 recently. that's the first point. a second point is about deterrent . i agree it's not deterrent. i agree it's not going to deter people if people are fleeing persecution and they are fleeing persecution and they are afraid for their lives , a are afraid for their lives, a policy like this is not going to stop them. the robert jenrick cattet— stop them. the robert jenrick cattet tt— stop them. the robert jenrick called it asylum _ the robert jenrick called it asylum shopping. wett— called it asylum shopping. wett. tte— called it asylum shopping. well, the refugee- called it asylum shopping. well, the refugee convention doesn't doesn't say that you've got to claim asylum in the first country that you you enter a safe country, that you enter the refugee convention allows you to claim asylum wherever you want. and one of the biggest draws to the uk is family members. that's why people come here, because they have family members. most people leaving a war torn- most people leaving a war torn area go to— people leaving a war torn area go to tne— people leaving a war torn area go to the neighbouring neighbouring country. przy go to the neighbouring—

neighbouring country. they don't to— neighbouring country. they don't to tte— neighbouring country. they don't come to the uk. very- neighbouring country. they don't come to the uk . very few- neighbouring country. przy 0er c t very few people come to the uk. very few people actuatty— come to the uk. very few people actuatty mate— come to the uk. very few people actually make that— come to the uk. very few people actually make that trip- t very few people actually make that trip and tney-re— actually make that trip and they're coming— actually make that trip and they're coming here because tney-ve— they're coming here because tney-ve got— they're coming here because they've got family links to this country— they've got family links to this country . — they've got family links to this country . so— they've got family links to this country . so what— they've got family links to this country . c country. so what the government has separate the wheat has to do is separate the wheat from they from the chaff. what they have to is separate seekers to do is separate asylum seekers who genuine, who've got who are genuine, who've got who've a real prospect of who've got a real prospect of success from those who are not, and those that are not and remove those that are not quickly and decide those that are quickly . and i think that's are quickly. and i think that's going to be the biggest deterrent. just one final thing is we need an agreement with france. i wouldn't come to the uk if i knew that i was going to be france. i would be sent back to france. i would not trip because not make that trip because there'll be no reason for me to do that. so i think we need a bilateral agreement with france to deal with the channel crossings. but to deal with the channel crossings . but ben, on that crossings. but ben, on that potnt— crossings. but ben, on that potnt ,— crossings. but ben, on that point , presumably- t pgs but ben, on that point, presumably we've been trytng— point, presumably we've been trytng to— point, presumably we've been trytng to get— point, presumably we've been trying to get that type of agreement— trying to get that type of agreement with france and tney-re— agreement with france and tney-re not— agreement with france and they're not forthcoming. i mean, why— they're not forthcoming. i mean, wny woutt— they're not forthcoming. i mean, wny woutt tney— they're not forthcoming. i mean, why would they sign such a deal ? why would they sign such a deal eant— why would they sign such a deal e ant can— why would they sign such a deal e ant you— why would they sign such a deal ? and can you see— why would they sign such a deal ? and can you see that ever nappentng— ? and can you see that ever nappentng e— ? and can you see that ever happening ? erg- ? and can you see that ever happening ? erg no, of course happening? erg no, of course not. — happening? erg no, of course not. r— happening? erg no, of course not. r mean.— happening? erg no, of course not. i mean, we've- happening? erg no, of course not. p : r: not. i mean, we've done quite the opposite with france , the opposite with france, haven't we? we've actually

through our behaviour, encouraged france to allow these people to attempt to make this dangerous crossing across the channel because what we've done is pay them more and more money every time more and more refugees or you know, would be refugees, illegal migrants until they're proven otherwise , you they're proven otherwise, you know, attempt to make that journey . so what we've done is journey. so what we've done is reward bad behaviour on the part of the french, and it was, i think, 63 million last year. it's going up to 72 it's going to go up to 72 million this year. new million this year. and the new dealis million this year. and the new deal is half a billion. but as ivan says, you know, it's conspicua us in its absence that we don't have the right to return people to france, which is country . you know, is a safe country. you know, when they've come illegally to the uk from france and that would be should be a corner stone of any deal before any money is handed over to the french. erg ivan isn't one of the biggest problems. you talk about deportation— the biggest problems. you talk about deportation ,— the biggest problems. you talk about deportation , an- gg you talk about deportation , an not about deportation, an not potenttatty— about deportation, an not potentially not being the teterrent— potentially not being the deterrent that we'd like it to pg.— deterrent that we'd like it to te, tut— deterrent that we'd like it to te, tut ten-t— deterrent that we'd like it to be, but isn't the— deterrent that we'd like it to be, but isn't the problem that

for be, but isn't the problem that tor one— be, but isn't the problem that for one reason— be, but isn't the problem that for one reason or— be, but isn't the problem that for one reason or another, it to— for one reason or another, it to te— for one reason or another, it seems to be near- for one reason or another, it seems to be near impossible to teport— seems to be near impossible to tepon anyoe— seems to be near impossible to tepon anyoe e— seems to be near impossible to deport anyone ? it— seems to be near impossible to deport anyone ? it seems to me deport anyone? it seems to me tnat— deport anyone? it seems to me tnat tne— deport anyone? it seems to me that the figures— deport anyone? it seems to me that the figures are always in tnete— that the figures are always in tnere. vou— that the figures are always in there. you know,— that the figures are always in there. you know, the low dozens ratner— there. you know, the low dozens ratner tnan— there. you know, the low dozens rather than potentially thousands _ rather than potentially thousands .- rather than potentially thousands . and that's because thousands. and that's because of, thousands. and that's because on you— thousands. and that's because on you know— thousands. and that's because on you know ,— thousands. and that's because of, you know , you— thousands. and that's because of, you know , you can you can of, you know, you can you can appeat— of, you know, you can you can appeat att— of, you know, you can you can appeal all non—stop on all various different grounds to be atte— various different grounds to be atte to— various different grounds to be atte to etay— various different grounds to be able to stay in— various different grounds to be able to stay in britain. well tne— able to stay in britain. well tne ttggeet— able to stay in britain. well the biggest problem is identity. many— the biggest problem is identity. trany peopte— the biggest problem is identity. trany peopte wno— the biggest problem is identity. many people who come- the biggest problem is identity. many people who come here don't have a passport, have no identity documents . we haven't identity documents. we haven't got agreements with those countries. it's almost impossible to identify who they are. so that's a real problem for the home office. where do we send them to? even if you refuse their asylum claim, what do you do? you can't send them to country where there's no agreement with that country to return that person and it's a very lengthy process to try and identify people from which country they come come from . country they come come from. that's a that's a huge problem for the government. now, i think

the key thing is we've got to comply with the rules and the treaties that we've signed up to. we can't just ignore them . to. we can't just ignore them. the eu, we will not allow it. ivan, do we have to ? because a ivan, do we have to? because a lot ivan, do we have to? because a tot ot— ivan, do we have to? because a lot of countries— ivan, do we have to? because a lot of countries don't. v/rzr. lot of countries don't. you cant— lot of countries don't. you cant you— lot of countries don't. you can't you can't— lot of countries don't. you can't you can't subcontract our obugafions. can't you can't subcontract our obligations . persons under the obligations. persons under the refugee convention when it doesn't permit it, you can't have what's called a breach of article 33 of principle of non—refoulement. you can't send an asylum seeker to a country where they may seek they may be potential for a breach of their of their human rights. you can't potential for a breach of their of that.human rights. you can't potential for a breach of their of that. thean rights. you can't potential for a breach of their of that. the law ghts. you can't potential for a breach of their of that. the law would 'ou can't potential for a breach of their of that. the law would allow1't potential for a breach of their of that. the law would allow us do that. the law would allow us to that. what would happen? to do that. what would happen? i'm to do that. what would happen? r-n—ettty— to do that. what would happen? i'm silly here, i'm not trying to be silly here, but what would happen if we were to? well parliament can enact any law. it wishes. the will of tne— any law. it wishes. the will of tne peopte— any law. it wishes. the will of tne peopte te— any law. it wishes. the will of the people is the— ppy it wishes. the will of the people is the will of the conservative _ the people is the will of the conservative party because tney-ve— conservative party because tney-ve got— conservative party because tney-ve got a— conservative party because they've got a huge majority . and they've got a huge majority. and we near— they've got a huge majority. and we treat ttne— they've got a huge majority. and we hear time again we hear time and time again peopte— we hear time and time again pebble 5awner— we hear time and time again people saying, well, this is the wttt— people saying, well, this is the wttt-peopte— people saying, well, this is the wttt-peopte .— people saying, well, this is the will-people . it's- people saying, well, this is the will people . it's not will of the people. it's not tnee-e— will of the people. it's not tnere-e no— will of the people. it's not there's no actual evidence to say— there's no actual evidence to eay wnere— there's no actual evidence to eay wnere tne—

there's no actual evidence to say where the public mood is on tnte— say where the public mood is on tnte. tnte— say where the public mood is on this. this country— say where the public mood is on this. this country has always teen— this. this country has always been compassionate to those eeettng— been compassionate to those seeking refugee— been compassionate to those seeking refugee status and we enoutt— seeking refugee status and we should continue.— seeking refugee status and we should continue. just one final tntng— should continue. just one final tntng atout— should continue. just one final thing about that's— should continue. just one final thing about that's true , ivan, thing about that's true, ivan, tut— thing about that's true, ivan, tut peopte— thing about that's true, ivan, tut peopte eee— thing about that's true, ivan, but people see abuse . sorry. but people see an abuse. sorry. go but people see an abuse. sorry. to on— but people see an abuse. sorry. to wot— but people see an abuse. sorry. go on. not illegal— but people see an abuse. sorry. go on. not illegal entry to come tnto— go on. not illegal entry to come tnto tnte— go on. not illegal entry to come into this country— go on. not illegal entry to come into this country via boats. rte— into this country via boats. we not— into this country via boats. we not r— into this country via boats. it's not i don't— into this country via boats. it's not i don't know where this tanguage— it's not i don't know where this tanguage coee— it's not i don't know where this language comes is— it's not i don't know where this language comes is illegal. c language comes is illegal. it ten-t.— language comes is illegal. it ten-t. rt— language comes is illegal. it ten-t. rt te— language comes is illegal. it isn't. it is illegal— language comes is illegal. it isn't. it is illegal in- language comes is illegal. it isn't. it is illegal in domestic law, but not so in international law. i right, ben? no. well law. am i right, ben? no. well it's not illegal— law. am i right, ben? no. well it's not illegal under- law. am i right, ben? no. well it's not illegal under the- 'p t rgp 7 no. well it's not illegal under the un “p t rgp 7 no. well it's not illegal under the un in toneettc— it's not illegal under the un in toneettc taw— it's not illegal under the un in domestic law either. it's called trregutar— domestic law either. it's called trregutar nang— domestic law either. it's called irregular hang on,— domestic law either. it's called irregular hang on, hang on. trregutar— irregular hang on, hang on. trregutar — irregular hang on, hang on. irregular i'll— irregular hang on, hang on. irregular cc t irregular hang on, hang on. irregular cc irregular i'll come back to you, ivan. just bear unclosed article 35 if you want to look it up. we have the right to stop them ant— we have the right to stop them ant-tnen— we have the right to stop them and-them back- we have the right to stop them and them back into french and send them back into french watere— and send them back into french watere .— and send them back into french watere . r— and send them back into french waters . i disagree— and send them back into french waters . i disagree with you. we waters. i disagree with you. we ton-t— waters. i disagree with you. we ton-t nave— waters. i disagree with you. we don't have the— waters. i disagree with you. we don't have the right to do that. wett— don't have the right to do that. wett you— don't have the right to do that. wett you neet— don't have the right to do that. well, you need to— don't have the right to do that. well, you need to look it up. tn — well, you need to look it up. tn aunts— well, you need to look it up. i'm aukus 35.— well, you need to look it up. i'm aukus 35. there's other tegat— i'm aukus 35. there's other legal conventions. we have all the legal conventions. we have all tne rtgnt— legal conventions. we have all tne rtgnt we— legal conventions. we have all the right we have— legal conventions. we have all the right we have all the rights legal conventions. we have all the need we have all the rights legal conventions. we have all the need to; have all the rights legal conventions. we have all the need to defendill the rights legal conventions. we have all the need to defend our�*ie rights legal conventions. we have all the need to defend our borders. we need to defend our borders. we we need to defend our borders. we-cnooee— we need to defend our borders. we .choose not— we need to defend our borders. we .choose not to - we need to defend our borders. we choose not to defend our we just choose not to defend our tortere. — we just choose not to defend our tortere. we— we just choose not to defend our borders. we-open- we just choose not to defend our borders. we open borders . borders. we have open borders. tnat-e— borders. we have open borders. tnat-e tne— borders. we have open borders. that's the problem . if someone that's the problem. if someone entee— that's the problem. if someone entee wt— that's the problem. if someone enters uk territory—

that's the problem. if someone enters uk territory waters and ctatne— enters uk territory waters and claims asylum _ enters uk territory waters and claims asylum ,— enters uk territory waters and claims asylum , we must consider claims asylum, we must consider tnat— claims asylum, we must consider tnat aeytun — claims asylum, we must consider that asylum claim.— claims asylum, we must consider that asylum claim. no fact . no. that asylum claim. no fact. no. tne— that asylum claim. no fact. no. tne eecont— that asylum claim. no fact. no. the second thing— that asylum claim. no fact. no. the second thing is the protectton.— the second thing is the protection. they're not described _ protection. they're not described as- protection. they're not described as if they're actually tney-re— described as if they're actually they're described— described as if they're actually they're described as btec . they're described as btec. vou-re— they're described as btec. you're talking— they're described as btec. you're talking over,- they're described as btec. you're talking over, you're talking over each other. ben, i'll just give you the- pg ben, i'll just give you the last word tecauee— i'll just give you the last word because we've— i'll just give you the last word because we've we've got i'll just give you the last word befinish we've we've got i'll just give you the last word befinish thise we've got i'll just give you the last word befinish this conversation; got to finish this conversation. wett— to finish this conversation. wett tne— to finish this conversation. well, the benefit of british law toee— well, the benefit of british law toee not— well, the benefit of british law toee not appty— well, the benefit of british law does not apply until these peopte— does not apply until these peopte are— does not apply until these people are actually into the very— people are actually into the very nner— people are actually into the very inner waters of the uk or on tnten— very inner waters of the uk or on british boats— very inner waters of the uk or on british boats or british tant. — on british boats or british land. actually- on british boats or british land. actually ,- on british boats or british land. 'tc prtrz on british boats or british land. t t on british boats or british- land. actually , once they cross land. actually, once they cross into our territorial waters , we into our territorial waters, we still have the right to tell them to go back to france and to enforce our borders. what we're not is enforcing our not doing is enforcing our borders. that's the problem . borders. that's the problem. well, there we go . we will agree well, there we go. we will agree to tteagree— well, there we go. we will agree to tteagree on— well, there we go. we will agree to disagree on that. one. thank you— to disagree on that. one. thank you very— to disagree on that. one. thank you very nucn— to disagree on that. one. thank you very much indeed. ben habib, torrner— you very much indeed. ben habib, torrner neatt— you very much indeed. ben habib, former brexit party— you very much indeed. ben habib, former brexit party and former brexit party mep and tnntgratton— former brexit party mep and immigration ivan sampson. immigration lawyer ivan sampson. it's immigration lawyer ivan sampson. rt-e-tttttcutt— immigration lawyer ivan sampson. it's-difficult when— immigration lawyer ivan sampson. it's difficult when you're it's very difficult when you're tetng— it's very difficult when you're tetng tott— it's very difficult when you're being told that— it's very difficult when you're being told that the law says two very— being told that the law says two very tttterent— being told that the law says two very different things . are there very different things. are there any evpene— very different things. are there any experts sitting at home tell me _correct on - any experts sitting at home tell me-correct on that- any experts sitting at home tell me correct on that one. me who is correct on that one. we— me who is correct on that one. we are— me who is correct on that one.

we gotng— me who is correct on that one. we gotng to— me who is correct on that one. we are going to be moving on to eonetntng— we are going to be moving on to something rather— we are going to be moving on to something rather different , something rather different, eonetntng— something rather different, something nicer, perhaps coronation— something nicer, perhaps coronation lessons will be avattatte— coronation lessons will be available to— coronation lessons will be available to all- coronation lessons will be available to all schools in tngtant— available to all schools in england this— available to all schools in england this week celebrate england this week to celebrate ant—atout- england this week to celebrate ant—atout kingi and teach students about king cnartee. — and teach students about king cnartee. tne— and teach students about king charles. the third's big day. tne— charles. the third's big day. the government— charles. the third's big day. the government wants young peopte— the government wants young peopte to— the government wants young people to learn— the government wants young people to learn about the nonarcny— people to learn about the- monarchy,-generation monarchy, but it's a generation wno— monarchy, but it's a generation wno-noetty— monarchy, but it's a generation who mostly disinterested monarchy, but it's a generation whcinstitutiony disinterested monarchy, but it's a generation whcinstitution , disinterested monarchy, but it's a generation whcinstitution , apparently,d the institution, apparently, accorttng— the institution, apparently, according to _ the institution, apparently, according to the polling anyway , royat— according to the polling anyway , our royal reporter cameron watter— , our royal reporter cameron walker-given- , our royal reporter cameron walker given exclusive walker was given exclusive access i a lesson - walker was given exclusive access a lesson fit for a access to a lesson fit for a ttng. — access to a lesson fit for a ttng. tne— access to a lesson fit for a king. the person- access to a lesson fit for a king. access to a lesson fit for a- king. the person that is going to wear st edwards crown on six of may 2023 is going to be king charles, as in less than a week. king charles will enter westminster- king charles will enter westminster abbey for an event not een— westminster abbey for an event not seen-country- westminster abbey for an event not seen country for 70 not seen in this country for 70 yeare— not seen in this country for 70 yeare tor— not seen in this country for 70 years. for britain's— not seen in this country for 70 years. for britain's children ant— years. for britain's children ant tnteet— years. for britain's children and indeed their parents, saturtay— and indeed their parents, saturday, the— and indeed their parents, saturday, the 6th of may, is the ttret— saturday, the 6th of may, is the ttret cannce— saturday, the 6th of may, is the first chance to— saturday, the 6th of may, is the first chance to see— saturday, the 6th of may, is the first chance to see saint ttwart-e— first chance to see saint edward's crown placed on the monarch's head— edward's crown placed on the monarch's head .— edward's crown placed on the monarch's head . while more than monarch's head. while more than tntee— monarch's head. while more than tnree quartere— monarch's head. while more than three quarters of— monarch's head. while more than three quarters of over 65 want to conttnue— three quarters of over 65 want to continue with— three quarters of over 65 want to continue with the monarchy ratner— to continue with the monarchy ratner tnan— to continue with the monarchy rather than an— to continue with the monarchy rather than an elected head of etate— rather than an elected head of state, teee— rather than an elected head of state, less than— rather than an elected head of state, less than a— rather than an elected head of state, less than a third of 18 to 2a— state, less than a third of 18 to a year— state, less than a third of 18 to 24 year olds_ state, less than a third of 18 to 24 year olds agree, to accorttng— to 24 year olds agree, to according the— to 24 year olds agree, to according the latest yougov poll , tne— according the latest yougov poll , tne nonarcny—

according the latest yougov poll , the monarchy has a big cnattenge— , the monarchy has a big challenge to— , the monarchy has a big challenge to engage younger generattone— challenge to engage younger generattone ,— challenge to engage younger generations , and the generations, and the government's been looking for an opportune— government's been looking for an opponune trotty— government's been looking for an opponune trotty to— government's been looking for an opportune motty to celebrate the etgn— opportune motty to celebrate the retgn wttn— opportune motty to celebrate the new reign with britain's schoolchildren. kings of scottant— schoolchildren. kings of scotland were crowned at their coronatton— scotland were crowned at their coronation, sitting on the stone of coronation, sitting on the stone ot scone — coronation, sitting on the stone of scone. describe— coronation, sitting on the stone of scone. rt coronation, sitting on the stone of scone. describe the stone with your partner, 10s . what with your partner, 10s. what shape is it? gb news has been gtven— shape is it? gb news has been given exclusive— shape is it? gb news has been given exclusive access- 7 gb news has been given exclusive access into a coronatton— given exclusive access into a coronation lesson— given exclusive access into a coronation lesson commissioned by coronation lesson commissioned ty tne— coronation lesson commissioned by the department— coronation lesson commissioned by the department for education to— by the department for education to te— by the department for education soon to be available in all ecnoote— soon to be available in all schools across— soon to be available in all schools across england. steve wareten— schools across england. steve ttareten ,— schools across england. steve wareten , a— schools across england. steve marsden , a teacher and education marsden, a teacher and education coneuttant— marsden, a teacher and education coneuttant ,— marsden, a teacher and education coneuttant , wae— marsden, a teacher and education consultant, was tasked marsden, a teacher and education consultant , was tasked with consultant, was tasked with teetgntng— consultant, was tasked with teetgntng a— consultant, was tasked with designing a lesson simple enough to engage— designing a lesson simple enough to engage young— designing a lesson simple enough to engage young children . to engage young children. i ton-t— to engage young children. i ton-t tnnt— to engage young children. i don't think you _ to engage young children. i don't think you have- to engage young children. i don't think you have to - to engage young children. i don't think you have to be a pro—monarchy teacher to teach a lesson about the coronation because i think the department of education was thinking children should know what's going happen on may the 6th. going to happen on may the 6th. otherwise it's just a tv programme a gets put programme where a crown gets put on king charles's head. but of course , it's much, more course, it's much, much more than our than that. it's part of our history goes back history that goes back a thousand years. the year four ctaee— thousand years. the year four class—church. thousand years. the year fouri class—church of class at saint mary's church of tngtant— class at saint mary's church of england primary— class at saint mary's church of england primary in england primary school in nortn—weet— england primary school in north—west london learnt about the north—west london learnt about

tne-ottecte— north—west london learnt about the-objects they'll- north—west london learnt about the objects they'll see the special objects they'll see on saturtay.— the special objects they'll see on saturday. favourite object on saturday. my favourite object tnat— on saturday. my favourite object tnat we— on saturday. my favourite object tnat we tearn— on saturday. my favourite object that we learn is— on saturday. my favourite object that we learn is the orb because it that we learn is the orb because tt repreeente— that we learn is the orb because it represents god. _ that we learn is the orb because it represents god. mg , it represents god. my favourite part of the lesson was when we learnt about how king charles has has to hold a sceptre with the orb in both hands. i found out a new word is— p : ifound out a new word is actually a tan— out a new word is actually a tattn wort— out a new word is actually a latin word called- out a new word is actually a latin word called corona. it means crown— latin word called corona. it means crown in— latin word called corona. it means crown in separate material has means crown in separate material nae teen— means crown in separate material nae teen mate— means crown in separate material has been made for— means crown in separate material has been made for both primary and has been made for both primary ant eecontary— has been made for both primary and secondary schools and ecnoote— and secondary schools and schools minister nick gibb wants to young— schools minister nick gibb wants to ensure young people understand— to ensure young people understand the significance of the coronation. _ understand the significance of the coronation. per : the coronation. they need to understand really how important it is in terms of our the way our country is governed, that the monarchy does play an important part in our constitution, albeit a constitutional monarchy , rather constitutional monarchy, rather than a monarchy with real power . but it's important that they do understand— but it's important that they do understand that . and all the do understand that. and all the eyntotten— do understand that. and all the symbolism-comes- do understand that. and all the symbolism comes from the symbolism that comes from the coronatton. — symbolism that comes from the coronatton. -r— symbolism that comes from the coronation. _i see- symbolism that comes from the coronation. i see you coronation. so can i see you trotttng— coronation. so can i see you notttng an— coronation. so can i see you holding an orb,— coronation. so can i see you holding an orb, please? c holding an orb, please? it's very— holding an orb, please? it's very heavy.— holding an orb, please? it's very heavy. very— holding an orb, please? it's very heavy. very heavy

holding an orb, please? c trzg «rzg the very heavy. very heavy. the coronation is multi- coronation is multi generational. two future kings wttt— generational. two future kings wttt te— generational. two future kings will be present— generational. two future kings will be present and nine year ott— will be present and nine year ott tnnce— will be present and nine year old prince george will be one of his grandfather's— old prince george will be one of his grandfather's pages . his his grandfather's pages. his ttret— his grandfather's pages. his ttret gttnpee— his grandfather's pages. his first glimpse of— his grandfather's pages. his first glimpse of a crown he'll tay— first glimpse of a crown he'll tay — first glimpse of a crown he'll one day wear. cameron wahaca . gb one day wear. cameron wahaca. gb wewe. — one day wear. cameron wahaca. gb wewe. wett— one day wear. cameron wahaca. gb news. well, that— one day wear. cameron wahaca. gb news. well, that is— one day wear. cameron wahaca. gb news. well, that is all— one day wear. cameron wahaca. gb news. well, that is all we've got time for today on gb news sunday with me, emily carver. guess who's up? nana of course. but first, let's take a look at the weather. thank you for watching. hello and welcome to your latest weather update from the met office . i'm marco the met office. i'm marco petagna.— the met office. i'm marcoi petagna.—start the met office. i'm marco. petagna.—start to petagna. showers will start to ease across the _ petagna. showers will start to ease across the uk the next ease across the uk over the next rew— ease across the uk over the next tew taye— ease across the uk over the next few days-weather- ease across the uk over the next few days weather will ease across the uk over the next few day down weather will ease across the uk over the next few day down certainlyivill quieten down certainly towards the quieten down certainly towardsi tne—weet the middle of the coming week tetore—tne- before rain arrives from the eoutnweet— before rain arrives from the southwest once _ before rain arrives from the southwest once later. it's southwest once again later. it's tnte— southwest once again later. it's tnte area— southwest once again later. it's tnte ot— southwest once again later. it's this area of low— southwest once again later. it's this area of low pressure, the occtutet— this area of low pressure, the occluded _out. occluded front moving out towarte— occluded front moving out towards the _ occluded front moving out towards the taking towards the east, taking its enowee— towards the east, taking its showers , allowing showers with it, allowing a rttge— showers with it, allowing a. rttge—putt showers with it, allowing a. rtttor—tuttt showers with it, allowing a. ridfor a_build showers with it, allowing a. ridfor a time—build showers with it, allowing a. ridfor a time as-build showers with it, allowing a ridfor a time as we build showers with it, allowing a ridfor a time as we through showers with it, allowing a ridfrcominge as we through showers with it, allowing a ridfrcominge as vtbefore. rough showers with it, allowing a ridfrcominge as vtbefore. lowh the coming week before. low pressure _towards. the coming week before. low pressure towards the pressure here out towards the weet— pressure here out towards the peg—,- pressure here out towards the west_, trtngtngl west arrives later, bringing a turtner— west arrives later, bringing a turtner ran— west arrives later, bringing a further rain .from - further rain in from the southwest. _ further rain in from the. southwest. _from southwest. certainly from tnuretay— southwest. certainly from thursday- back i southwest. certainly from thursday back to southwest. certainly from - thursday-back to the thursday onwards, back to the tetatt— thursday onwards, back to the tetatt tor— thursday onwards, back to the detail for evening detail for this evening and overntgnt— overnight. and we have a thunderstorm _ overnight. and we have a- thunderstorm _force overnight. and we have a- thunde northern-force overnight. and we have a thundenorthern ireland. force across northern ireland. soutnern— across northern ireland. southern parts of scotland until 9:00— southern parts of scotland until eeoe tnte— southern parts of scotland until 9:00 this evening.—

southern parts of scotland until 9:00 this evening. showers southern parts of scotland until 9:0 startingfening. showers southern parts of scotland until 9:0 starting to ing. showers southern parts of scotland until 9:0 starting to ease showers southern parts of scotland until 9:0 starting to ease acrossiowers are starting to ease across northwestern _ are starting to ease across northwestern areas overnight wttn— northwestern areas overnight wttt-tn— northwestern areas overnight wttt-tn-ot- northwestern areas overnighti with-in-of clear northwestern areas overnight with around of clear northwestern areas overnight with around but clear northwestern areas overnight with around but notice spells around here. but notice ettt— spells around here. but notice etttt gutte— spells around here. but notice etttt gutte a— spells around here. but notice still quite a showers across still quite a few showers across centrat— still quite a few showers across central-eastern— still quite a few showers across central-eastern-of. central and eastern parts of tngtant— central and eastern parts of- tngtant—ratn england and some showery rain ateo— england and some showery rain ateo-eoutn— england and some showery rain also-south into- england and some showery rain also-south into _ofj also moving south into parts of nortnern— also moving south into parts of northern scotland _ also moving south into parts of northern scotland in the clear epette— northern scotland in the clear epette out— northern scotland in the clear spells out towards the west. temperatures_ spells out towards the west. temperatures locally get temperatures could locally get town—ttgureel temperatures could locally get dow generally figures, temperatures could locally get dowgenerally holdingfigures, temperatures could locally get dowgenerally holding upires, temperatures could locally get dowgenerally holding up in;, temperatures could locally get dowgenerally holding up in the but generally holding up in the range— but generally holding up in the range 6— but generally holding up in the range to to— but generally holding up in the range to to rt— but generally holding up in the range 6 to 11 celsius. as for wontay— range 6 to 11 celsius. as for nontay, tant— range 6 to 11 celsius. as for monday, bank holiday, monday, of , gutte— monday, bank holiday, monday, of , gutte a— monday, bank holiday, monday, of course , quite a few— monday, bank holiday, monday, of course , quite a few showers course, quite a few showers ettt— course, quite a few showers etttt—acroeei still to contend with across centrat— still to contend with across central south— still to contend with across central south parts central south eastern parts of tngtant— central south eastern parts of tngtant .— central south eastern parts of england . some— central south eastern parts of england . some heavy here in central south eastern parts of eng afternoon1e heavy here in central south eastern parts of eng afternoon and aavy here in central south eastern parts of eng afternoon and some here in central south eastern parts of eng afternoon and some showery in the afternoon and some showery ran— the afternoon and some showery ran-novtng— the afternoon and some showery rain-moving south- the afternoon and some showery rain moving south across rain also moving south across pane— rain also moving south across parte ot— rain also moving south across parts of scotland— rain also moving south across parts of scotland through the day,— parts of scotland through the tay-out— parts of scotland through the day,-out towards- parts of scotland through the day, out towards the day, whereas out towards the weet—nucni west and southwest, a much better— west and southwest, a much tetter tay— west and southwest, a much better day-than- west and southwest, a much better day than sunday. better day here than on sunday. more— better day here than on sunday. more tn— better day here than on sunday. more tn tne— better day here than on sunday. more in the-of— better day here than on sunday. more in the of sunshine more in the way of sunshine arount— more in the way of sunshine around . around and then the sunshine. tenperaturee— around and then the sunshine. temperatures still doing quite wett—year- temperatures still doing quite wett—yearlupi temperatures still doing quite. wett—yearlup to well for the time of year, up to 18 well for the time of year, up to to or— well for the time of year, up to to or re— well for the time of year, up to 18 or 19 degrees— well for the time of year, up to 18 or 19 degrees towards well for the time of year, up to 18 csouth—east. towards well for the time of year, up to 18 csouth—east. still towards well for the time of year, up to 18 csouth—east. still chilly, 'ds the south—east. still chilly, tnougn—tar- though, towards the far north—east— though, towards the far north—east . and as north—east of scotland. and as weltnrougn— north—east of scotland. and as we .through the— north—east of scotland. and as we through the evening and we go through the evening and overntgnt— we go through the evening and overnight period— we go through the evening and overnight period monday , overnight period on monday, ettt— overnight period on monday, etttt eoe— overnight period on monday, still some showers to contend wttn— still some showers to contend wttt—tne- still some showers to contend wttt—tne tar- still some showers to contend with _the far easti with out towards the far east of the with out towards the far east of tne—fewer- with out towards the far east ofi tne—tewer ant the uk, but becoming fewer and turtner— the uk, but becoming fewer and further between— the uk, but becoming fewer and further between 1— the uk, but becoming fewer and further between 1 or 2 showers ettt— further between 1 or 2 showers still towards— further between 1 or 2 showers still towards-far- further between 1 or 2 showers still towards far north—east still towards the far north—east tnete— still towards the far north—east tnerelwett — still towards the far north—east there .well. .on- still towards the far north—east there well. on whole there as well. but on the whole , tte— there as well. but on the whole , tt-e a— there as well. but on the whole , tt-e a tnet— there as well. but on the whole , it's a drier picture. one the way— way of clear spells around and nottce— way of clear spells around and nottce tne— way of clear spells around and notice the blue— way of clear spells around and notice the blue colours there on

the-indicating— notice the blue colours there on the indicating some chilly the chart indicating some chilly tenperaturee— temperatures for parts of scottant— temperatures for parts of scotland by— temperatures for parts of scotland by tuesday morning. tueetay— scotland by tuesday morning. tuesday itself— scotland by tuesday morning. tuesday itself looks a quieter tay. —ntgn- tuesday itself looks a quieter day. high pressure day. a ridge of high pressure etarttng— day. a ridge of high pressure starting-build— day. a ridge of high pressure starting build from starting to build in from the weet. — starting to build in from the weet. lnore— starting to build in from the west..more in— starting to build in from the west. more in the of west. so more in the way of eunenrne— west. so more in the way of eunetnneor-- west. so more in the way of- sunshine.-orlshowers, west. so more in the way of sunshirconfined or showers, west. so more in the way of sunshirconfined towards;howers, west. so more in the way of sunshirconfined towards;hovtfar, mainly confined towards the far nortt—eaet— mainly confined towards the far north—east, perhaps some cloud across southern— north—east, perhaps some cloud across southern scotland, parts north—east, perhaps some cloud ac northern �*iern scotland, parts north—east, perhaps some cloud ac northern �*iern central d, parts north—east, perhaps some cloud ac northern �*iern central england. of northern and central england. but of northern and central england. out on— of northern and central england. out on tne— of northern and central england. but on the whole,— of northern and central england. but on the whole, certainly more in but on the whole, certainly more tn tne— but on the whole, certainly more tn tne way— but on the whole, certainly more tn tne way ot— but on the whole, certainly more in the way of bright weather arount— in the way of bright weather. arount—tong around temperatures still doing gutte—wttni quite well in the sunshine with turtner— quite well in the sunshine with turtner-to— quite well in the sunshine with turtner-to-onl further sunshine to come on wetneetay— further sunshine to come on wednesday-the- further sunshine to come on wednesday the uk before further sunshine to come on wed arrives the uk before further sunshine to come on wed arrives from the uk before further sunshine to come on wed arrives from thee uk before further sunshine to come on wed arrives from the southwest; rain arrives from the southwest tater— rain arrives from the southwest tater tn— rain arrives from the southwest tater tn tne— rain arrives from the southwest later in the week. _ rain arrives from the southwest later in the week. it . later in the week. that's it. bye— later in the week. that's it. nye tye. — later in the week. that's it. nye tye. rn— later in the week. that's it. nye tye. n a— later in the week. that's it. bye bye. in a few days time, ttng— bye bye. in a few days time, ttng cnartee— bye bye. in a few days time, king charles iii,— bye bye. in a few days time, king charles iii, will be cronet— king charles iii, will be crowned in— king charles iii, will be crowned in a- king charles iii, will be crowned in a ceremony arnie that punctuatee— crowned in a ceremony arnie that punctuatee our— crowned in a ceremony arnie that punctuates our history . �*frrrz; crowned in a ceremony arnie that punctuates our history . �*strrz rrrer c punctuates our history. we won't just punctuates our history. we won't putt to— punctuates our history. we won't just be focusing on the pomp and circumstance because the coronation was also about the conquest, rebellion and murder in it. our liberties are consecrated next week. a special edition of farage_ consecrated next week. a special edition of farage with— t t: przxc a special edition of farage with professor pavtt— edition of farage with professor pavtt statew— edition of farage with professor david starkey, the crown a tnoueant— david starkey, the crown a thousand year— david starkey, the crown a thousand year story on gb news nntatn-e— thousand year story on gb news britain's news— thousand year story on gb news

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