have recommended that a revised pay have recommended that a revised pay offer made by the government should be accepted . members of should be accepted. members of the nhs staff council said the unions agreed to the deal for staff, which . includes all nhs staff, which. includes all nhs workers apart from doctors, dentists and senior managers. the royal college of nursing and unite. however voted against the pay unite. however voted against the pay deal . the unite. however voted against the pay deal. the health unite. however voted against the pay deal . the health secretary, pay deal. the health secretary, steve barclay , says the

steve barclay, says the government will implement the pay government will implement the pay rise for nhs workers and is urging the remaining unions to accept the offer. it's a good day for nhs staff, but it's also a good day for patients. it will allow us to move 32 35. it will allow us to move forward. 32 25 it will allow us to move forward. now the was— allow us to move forward. now the nhs staff— allow us to move forward. now the nhs staff council has ratified— the nhs staff council has ratified this— the nhs staff council has ratified this deal. it's been accepted— ratified this deal. it's been accepted by— ratified this deal. it's been accepted by the majority of the wes— accepted by the majority of the was staff— accepted by the majority of the nhs staff council— accepted by the majority of the nhs staff council and we can now forward, — nhs staff council and we can now move forward, focus— nhs staff council and we can now move forward, focus together on patente— move forward, focus together on patients and— move forward, focus together on patients and also— move forward, focus together on patients and also ensure that staff— patients and also ensure that staff gee— patients and also ensure that staff get their— patients and also ensure that staff get their pay rise much then— staff get their pay rise much sooner than would have been the case under the— sooner than would have been the case under the pay— sooner than would have been the case under the pay review body peeeee. wen— case under the pay review body process. well the _ case under the pay review body process. well the shadow chancellor, _ process. well the shadow chancellor, rachel reeves, says the chancellor, rachel reeves, says tte teete— chancellor, rachel reeves, says the issue still— chancellor, rachel reeves, says the issue still isn't— chancellor, rachel reeves, says the issue still isn't resolved . the issue still isn't resolved. wett— the issue still isn't resolved. wett. wttt— the issue still isn't resolved. well, what this— the issue still isn't resolved. well, what this shows- the issue still isn't resolved. well, what this shows is- the issue still isn't resolved. well, what this shows is that this whole load of industrial action was absolutely avoidable if the government had have done what labour said should have happened months ago , and that is happened months ago, and that is get round the table and negotiate. but it is also a sign of how angry nurses and indeed junior doctors are with this government that the threat of industrial action continues even

after today. consumer industrial action continues even after today . consumer news and after today. consumer news and teet— after today. consumer news and food inflation— after today. consumer news and food inflation went— after today. consumer news and food inflation went up- 2 consumer news and food inflation went up to another— food inflation went up to another record - food inflation went up to another record high in april, tut— another record high in april, tut tower— another record high in april, but lower prices— another record high in april, but lower prices are on the tettzee— but lower prices are on the horizon. that's— but lower prices are on the horizon. that's according to the ettttet— horizon. that's according to the british retail— horizon. that's according to the british retail consortium . british retail consortium. eteeety— british retail consortium. grocery prices— british retail consortium. grocery prices rose by 5.7% last month. — grocery prices rose by 5.7% last month. that-e— grocery prices rose by 5.7% last month. that's the— grocery prices rose by 5.7% last month. that's the biggest annual tn— month. that's the biggest annual increase in records— month. that's the biggest annual increase in records going back etmeet— increase in records going back etmeet twe— increase in records going back almost two decades. the figures etee— almost two decades. the figures etee stew— almost two decades. the figures also show that— almost two decades. the figures also show that prices for nee—teet— also show that prices for non—food items slowed down because— non—food items slowed down because et— non—food items slowed down because of spring discounts on etetttng— because of spring discounts on etetttne ent— because of spring discounts on clothing and furniture . and clothing and furniture. and staying— clothing and furniture. and eteytng wttt— clothing and furniture. and staying with consumer news, toute— staying with consumer news, teuee ptteee— staying with consumer news, house prices showed signs of etettttetne— house prices showed signs of stabilising last— house prices showed signs of stabilising last month, eeeetttne— stabilising last month, according to- stabilising last month, according to mortgage lender nettenwtte— according to mortgage lender nationwide. the— according to mortgage lender nationwide. the price of a home ty— nationwide. the price of a home ty nought— nationwide. the price of a home rose by nought point 5% after tetttne— rose by nought point 5% after tetttne tet— rose by nought point 5% after falling for the— rose by nought point 5% after falling for the past seven months,— falling for the past seven months, compared to april last year-— months, compared to april last yeaf- the— months, compared to april last year. the average— months, compared to april last year. the average house price town— year. the average house price was down 2.7%_ year. the average house price was down 2.7% a— year. the average house price was down 2.7% a nurse accused of muttettne— was down 2.7% a nurse accused of muttettng seven— was down 2.7% a nurse accused of murdering seven babies and ettempttne— murdering seven babies and ettempttng te— murdering seven babies and attempting to kill ten others eate— attempting to kill ten others see tet— attempting to kill ten others says her whole— attempting to kill ten others says her whole world stopped when— says her whole world stopped when ete— says her whole world stopped when she was— says her whole world stopped

when she was blamed for their deaths.— when she was blamed for their teette. ee— when she was blamed for their deaths. 33 year— when she was blamed for their deaths. 33 year old lucy letby is deaths. 33 year old lucy letby te en— deaths. 33 year old lucy letby te en tttet— deaths. 33 year old lucy letby is on trial for— deaths. 33 year old lucy letby is on trial for the— deaths. 33 year old lucy letby is on trial for the offences is etteeet— is on trial for the offences is etteget te— is on trial for the offences is alleged to have— is on trial for the offences is alleged to have taken place between— alleged to have taken place between june _ alleged to have taken place between june 2015 and june 2016. giving— between june 2015 and june 2016. giving evidence— between june 2015 and june 2016. giving evidence for— between june 2015 and june 2016. giving evidence for the first ttme, — giving evidence for the first ttme, tetty— giving evidence for the first time, letby said— giving evidence for the first time, letby said she thought of tunes;— time, letby said she thought of killing herself— time, letby said she thought of killing herself because of the ettegettene— killing herself because of the allegations. the— killing herself because of the allegations. the prosecutor has eettet— allegations. the prosecutor has eettet tet— allegations. the prosecutor has called let be— allegations. the prosecutor has called let be a— allegations. the prosecutor has called let be a constant malevolent— called let be a constant malevolent presence at the neenetet— malevolent presence at the neonatal unit— malevolent presence at the neonatal unit of— malevolent presence at the neonatal unit of the countess of cteetet— neonatal unit of the countess of chester hospital.— neonatal unit of the countess of chester hospital. she denies the charges— chester hospital. she denies the charges .— chester hospital. she denies the charges . former— chester hospital. she denies the charges. former us chester hospital. she denies the charges . former us president charges. former us president benett— charges. former us president denett trump— charges. former us president donald trump is— charges. former us president donald trump is in turnberry in scouted,— donald trump is in turnberry in scotland, visiting— donald trump is in turnberry in scotland, visiting one of his gett— scotland, visiting one of his gett eeeett— scotland, visiting one of his gett eeeett .— scotland, visiting one of his golf resorts . yesterday, he golf resorts. yesterday, he opened— golf resorts. yesterday, he epenet e— golf resorts. yesterday, he opened a new— golf resorts. yesterday, he opened a new course named after his opened a new course named after tte tate— opened a new course named after his late mother— opened a new course named after his late mother at— opened a new course named after his late mother at the menie estate— his late mother at the menie eetete nett— his late mother at the menie estate near aberdeen . his trip estate near aberdeen. his trip eetnettet— estate near aberdeen. his trip coincided with— estate near aberdeen. his trip coincided with a— estate near aberdeen. his trip coincided with a visit to the uk teet— coincided with a visit to the uk teet week— coincided with a visit to the uk teet neet ty— coincided with a visit to the uk last week by one— coincided with a visit to the uk last week by one of his likely nvete— last week by one of his likely nvete ten— last week by one of his likely rivals for the— last week by one of his likely rivals for the 2024 republican nentnetten— rivals for the 2024 republican nentnetten ,— rivals for the 2024 republican nomination , ron— rivals for the 2024 republican nomination , ron desantis. well nomination, ron desantis. well tomorrow night,— nomination, ron desantis. well tomorrow night, in a world eenettve— tomorrow night, in a world eenettve ,— tomorrow night, in a world exclusive , nigel farage exclusive, nigel farage interviews— exclusive, nigel farage interviews donald trump from his golf interviews donald trump from his eett estate— interviews donald trump from his gett eetete tn— interviews donald trump from his golf estate in turnberry in semant— golf estate in turnberry in scotland. you— golf estate in turnberry in scotland. you can watch it on gb tene—

scotland. you can watch it on gb news tomorrow— scotland. you can watch it on gb news tomorrow night, 7:00. teeenene— news tomorrow night, 7:00. teachers across— news tomorrow night, 7:00. teachers across england are etnttne— teachers across england are striking today— teachers across england are striking today in an ongoing ttennte— striking today in an ongoing ttepnte even— striking today in an ongoing dispute over pay with hundreds of dispute over pay with hundreds et neente— dispute over pay with hundreds of people marching outside the tenennent— of people marching outside the tenennent et— of people marching outside the department of education in april . menten— department of education in april . menten et— department of education in april . members of the— department of education in april . members of the national ttneetten— . members of the national education union overwhelmingly neteetet— education union overwhelmingly rejected a— education union overwhelmingly neteetet a pay— education union overwhelmingly rejected a pay offer. the new, atone— rejected a pay offer. the new, etene nttn— rejected a pay offer. the new, along with three— rejected a pay offer. the new, along with three other teaching nee— along with three other teaching unions, has rejected an offer nnten— unions, has rejected an offer which included— unions, has rejected an offer which included a £1,000 one off payment— which included a £1,000 one off payment ent— which included a £1,000 one off payment ant a— which included a £1,000 one off payment and a 4.3% pay rise for meet— payment and a 4.3% pay rise for meet etatt— payment and a 4.3% pay rise for meet etatt tn— payment and a 4.3% pay rise for most staff in september. today's natteat— most staff in september. today's natteat te— most staff in september. today's walkout is the— most staff in september. today's walkout is the fifth— most staff in september. today's walkout is the fifth undertaken by etaeatten— walkout is the fifth undertaken by education is— walkout is the fifth undertaken by education is this year, eaaetnp— by education is this year, causing pupils- by education is this year, causing pupils major disruptions. labour mp for leeds taet— disruptions. labour mp for leeds taet nemat— disruptions. labour mp for leeds east richard burgon says etnttnp— east richard burgon says etnttnp te— east richard burgon says striking is a— east richard burgon says striking is a last resort. tte-te— striking is a last resort. we're seeing— striking is a last resort. we're seeing is- striking is a last resort. we're seeing is people fighting back because they've got no choice and there are ways to fund this for example, just equalising capital gains tax with income tax, which used to be the case even for a period under thatcher's government in the 80s, would raise more than enough money to give every

single public sector worker in this country an inflation matching pay rise. so the money is there. the government doesn't seem to have the right priorities because the government should be putting our pubuc government should be putting our public services and working people across this country first. and i'm afraid they're not. the oil giant bp is repentnp— the oil giant bp is reporting stronger than expected pnettte— reporting stronger than expected pnettte tn— reporting stronger than expected pnettte tn tne— reporting stronger than expected profits in the first— reporting stronger than expected profits in the first three mentne— profits in the first three months of _ profits in the first three months of 2023 reached close to £4 months of 2023 reached close to en ttttten. — months of 2023 reached close to £4 billion. the— months of 2023 reached close to £4 billion. the result was a netaetten— £4 billion. the result was a reduction from _ £4 billion. the result was a reduction from the £4.96 billion tnat— reduction from the £4.96 billion tnat nt— reduction from the £4.96 billion tnat en mate— reduction from the £4.96 billion that bp made in— reduction from the £4.96 billion that bp made in the same quarter last that bp made in the same quarter taet pean— that bp made in the same quarter taet yea, tat— that bp made in the same quarter last year, but well— that bp made in the same quarter last year, but well ahead of the teen— last year, but well ahead of the £3.44 billion. _ last year, but well ahead of the £3.44 billion. analysts had expected— £3.44 billion. analysts had expected them _ £3.44 billion. analysts had expected them to make . now, expected them to make. now, tnneeee— expected them to make. now, princess anne— expected them to make. now, princess anne says she believes king— princess anne says she believes ttnp cnantee— princess anne says she believes king charles will— princess anne says she believes king charles will not be changed by me— king charles will not be changed by me me— king charles will not be changed by me rete— king charles will not be changed by his new role as— king charles will not be changed by his new role as monarch. tatttnp— by his new role as monarch. tatttnp nttn— by his new role as monarch. talking with the— by his new role as monarch. talking with the canadian broadcaster— talking with the canadian broadcaster cbc ahead of the pnnee-e— broadcaster cbc ahead of the prince's coronation the king's cenenatten— prince's coronation the king's cenenatten ._ prince's coronation the king's coronation, i beg— prince's coronation the king's coronation, i beg your pardon , coronation, i beg your pardon, tnneeee— coronation, i beg your pardon, tnneeee anne,— coronation, i beg your pardon, princess anne, said the king, tte— princess anne, said the king, ttte tne— princess anne, said the king, like the rest— princess anne, said the king, like the rest of— princess anne, said the king, like the rest of the family, is eemmtttet— like the rest of the family, is committed to— like the rest of the family, is committed to public service. but the committed to public service. but tne tnneeee— committed to public service. but the princess royal— committed to public service. but the princess royal argued that ettmmtna— the princess royal argued that slimming down— the princess royal argued that slimming down the royal family tttn-t—

slimming down the royal family tttn-t eeant— slimming down the royal family didn't sound like— slimming down the royal family didn't sound like a good idea. in didn't sound like a good idea. tn-te— didn't sound like a good idea. tn-te repene- didn't sound like a good idea. in -to reports the- didn't sound like a good idea. in to reports the king in response to reports the king may— in response to reports the king may emet— in response to reports the king may reduce the— in response to reports the king may reduce the number working may reduce the number of working rotate— may reduce the number of working nepate . — may reduce the number of working nepate . nett— may reduce the number of working nepate . met, you— may reduce the number of working royals . well, you know,- may reduce the number of working royals. w222 "5; royals. well, you know, you're getting because he's been practising for a bit and i don't think he'll change. you know, he is committed to his his own level of service. and that's absolutely that will remain true . well, king charles's coronation— . well, king charles's coronation is- well, king charles's coronation is expected to pnevtte— coronation is expected to pnevtte a— coronation is expected to provide a £120- coronation is expected to provide a £120 million boost to pate— provide a £120 million boost to pate aeneee— provide a £120 million boost to pubs across the— provide a £120 million boost to pubs across the uk. the british teen— pubs across the uk. the british teen ant— pubs across the uk. the british teen ant pat— pubs across the uk. the british beer and pub association says teeat— beer and pub association says teeat pate— beer and pub association says local pubs and— beer and pub association says local pubs and breweries are ptanntnp— local pubs and breweries are ptanntnp te— local pubs and breweries are planning to pour— local pubs and breweries are planning to pour 62 million ptnte— planning to pour 62 million ptnte even— planning to pour 62 million pints over the— planning to pour 62 million pints over the bank holiday weekend.— pints over the bank holiday weekend. pubs— pints over the bank holiday weekend. pubs are also going to be weekend. pubs are also going to te attenet— weekend. pubs are also going to te attenet te— weekend. pubs are also going to be allowed to stay— weekend. pubs are also going to be allowed to stay open until noo— be allowed to stay open until too tn— be allowed to stay open until too tn tne— be allowed to stay open until 1:00 in the morning and his nateety— 1:00 in the morning and his nap-eety tne— 1:00 in the morning and his majesty the king and the queen cement— majesty the king and the queen ceneent nave— majesty the king and the queen consort have met— majesty the king and the queen consort have met with rishi senat— consort have met with rishi sanat ant— consort have met with rishi sunak and sir— consort have met with rishi sunak and sir keir starmer today,— sunak and sir keir starmer today, a— sunak and sir keir starmer today, a reception being held at the today, a reception being held at tne tataee— today, a reception being held at tne tataee et— today, a reception being held at the palace of westminster ahead of the palace of westminster ahead at tte— the palace of westminster ahead at me nap-eety-e— the palace of westminster ahead of his majesty's coronation atone— of his majesty's coronation atenp nttn— of his majesty's coronation along with the— of his majesty's coronation along with the prime minister ant— along with the prime minister ant tne— along with the prime minister and the leader— along with the prime minister and the leader of the opposition . tne— and the leader of the opposition . tte-aeo— and the leader of the opposition . the-also met- and the leader of the opposition . the-also met with- . the monarch also met with

etnen— . the monarch also met with otter-et- . the monarch also met with other of parliament . the monarch also met with- other-of parliament here other members of parliament here nttn— other members of parliament here nttn en— other members of parliament here mm at tene— other members of parliament here with gb news. more— other members of parliament here with gb news. more news as it nappene.— with gb news. more news as it nappene. ten— with gb news. more news as it happens. now dewbs& co . well, | well, hello. nett- hello there. it's well, hello there. it's 6:00. i'm michelle dewberry and this is dewbs & co we're live from our gb dewbs& co we're live from our gb news studio. look at this, everybody outside of buckingham palace, what an absolute treat for us all tonight coming up. yes, i definitely want to talk about the monarchy, not least because princess anne says that a slimmed down royal family doesn't sound like a good idea . doesn't sound like a good idea. so what do you reckon? does the monarchy need to be reformed to

survive or not? and moving on to other matters, keir has other matters, keir starmer has ditched yet another one of his pledges today , this time pledges today, this time to aboush pledges today, this time to abolish university tuition fees . what do you make to all this? do you think we should have free universities or do you think degrees are worth the money spent on them? and another day and another oil giant releasing their profits. this time, bp , their profits. this time, bp, are you sitting down? apparently $5 billion in the first three months of the year. you know the drill by now, don't you ? we go drill by now, don't you? we go around the same circles. do we need have tougher windfall need to have tougher windfall tax?if need to have tougher windfall tax? if so, please just tell me how much you actually want these companies to pay in tax before we get into it. all i will introduce the panel that's keeping me company. quintin let's a new face on this show. political sketchwriter for the times and alongside him as well. john mcternan, the political strategist and former adviser to tony blair. what a night to be making your debut. well, what a place to making your debut. well, what a ptaee to te. — making your debut. well, what a ptaee to te. .— making your debut. well, what a place to be. i know— making your debut. well, what a place to be. i know it's- 2 2 2 well, what a place to be. i know it's better man— place to be. i know it's better tnan pean— place to be. i know it's better than your normal— place to be. i know it's better than your normal studio. you wnat—

than your normal studio. you are. what are— than your normal studio. you are. what are you- than your normal studio. you are. 2 are. what are you saying about my bit less dusty? they're both as good as each other. have you got your families on, chaps? yes. you didn't need to yes. have you didn't need to know he looked very happy know that? he looked very happy and there, sharing and confident there, sharing his undies with the nation. i've got mine i've got be honest. mine on. i've got to be honest. i'm feeling quite i was i'm feeling quite hot now. i was watching eamonn holmes this morning. he looked absolutely freezing thought, freezing cold and i thought, i'm not that. i'm not having any of that. i'm getting myself warm. i'm regretting my choice of thermals tonight. because tonight. i can tell you, because the shining. it's the sun is shining. it's a beautiful night out here. live in buckingham you know in buckingham palace. you know the drill don't you, on the drill as well, don't you, on this it's not just about this show? it's not just about us is very much about us three. it is very much about you guys home as well. what you guys at home as well. what is on your mind not is on your mind tonight? not just not just the just the monarchy, not just the coronation other coronation but all the other matters in touch matters as well. get in touch the way as the usual way as gbviews@gbnews.uk is how you email . or you can tweet me at email me. or you can tweet me at gb views and kerr at gb news. anyway here we are. and as i'm saying, it's a lovely night for it. i'm so pleased it's not raining, it's lively. there's been campers outside the mall. they're not messing around. they've been there or they will

be there for days by the time the coronation procession actually passes them. so we've been chatting been out and about chatting to them. asking how them. we've been asking them how far come. it's far have they come. it's fantastic . i far have they come. it's fantastic. i mean,- 2 it's fantastic . i mean, to see fantastic. i mean, to see cnantee— fantastic. i mean, to see charles from _ fantastic. i mean, to see charles from the beginning to me— charles from the beginning to me pap,— charles from the beginning to this point, i've— charles from the beginning to this point, i've always admired mm— this point, i've always admired ntm .— this point, i've always admired ntm . ant— this point, i've always admired ntm . ant tne— this point, i've always admired him . and the amount of people him. and the amount of people tene— him. and the amount of people nene te— him. and the amount of people here is incredible— him. and the amount of people here is incredible . 2 here is incredible. all bought the uncle and auntie to london today just to see the sights really. but they ended up seeing the king that's right. we live in the king that's right. we live tn tee — the king that's right. we live tn tee tte— the king that's right. we live in texas. we don't— 2 that's right. we live in texas. we don't have a king, tat— in texas. we don't have a king, tat yea— in texas. we don't have a king, put you get— in texas. we don't have a king, put you get me— in texas. we don't have a king, but you got one. and we really mtee— but you got one. and we really tne— but you got one. and we really miss the queen _ but you got one. and we really miss the queen i— but you got one. and we really miss the queen i know. i love tnat— miss the queen i know. i love tnat tatt— miss the queen i know. i love tnat taty. sne— miss the queen i know. i love that lady. she was— miss the queen i know. i love that lady. she was good, wasn't me — that lady. she was good, wasn't me sne— that lady. she was good, wasn't she? she was— that lady. she was good, wasn't she? she was the— that lady. she was good, wasn't she? she was the best- that lady. she was good, wasn't she? 425" she? she was the best mate. yeah that's dedication for you,— she? she was the best mate. yeah that's dedication for you, isn't- that's dedication for you, isn't it? absolutely. _ that's dedication for you, isn't it? absolutely. love it. we're epeattnp— it? absolutely. love it. we're epeattnp te— it? absolutely. love it. we're speaking to one— it? absolutely. love it. we're speaking to one family as well. met-ve— speaking to one family as well. tney-ve—nttnl they've got a little kid with tnem — they've got a little kid with tnem ant— they've got a little kid with them and brought little them and he's brought a little neat.— them and he's brought a little neet. tt— them and he's brought a little neet. tt nae— them and he's brought a little rock. it was his— them and he's brought a little rock. it was his time. he rock. it was his first time. he eate— rock. it was his first time. he eaye me— rock. it was his first time. he eaye nte teet— rock. it was his first time. he says his rock has— rock. it was his first time. he says his rock has ever seen anytntnp— says his rock has ever seen anytntnp tte— says his rock has ever seen anything like the on says his rock has ever seen- anything like the -on here anything like the goings on here at—tataee.- anything like the goings on here at_palace. bless. anything like the goings on here. at_palace. bless him. at buckingham palace. bless him. tet-e— at buckingham palace. bless him. tet-e pet— at buckingham palace. bless him. tet-e pet etatt— at buckingham palace. bless him. let's get stuck straight then let's get stuck straight in then ant—tte— let's get stuck straight in then and the monarchy, and talk about the monarchy, etatt— and talk about the monarchy, etatt-teen- and talk about the monarchy, shall been princess shall we? it's been princess anne— shall we? it's been princess anne-teen— shall we? it's been princess anne been speaking anne who's been speaking out today— anne who's been speaking out today-tte— anne who's been speaking out today it? apparently, today, isn't it? apparently, ene-e— today, isn't it? apparently,j ene-e—nen she's not convinced of her matter-e— she's not convinced of her tnetnen-e-a- she's not convinced of her. brother's-a slimmed

brother's plan for a slimmed tenn— brother's plan for a slimmed town—sne- brother's plan for a slimmed down-she says. brother's plan for a slimmed. down-she says she's down monarchy. she says she's not down monarchy. she says she's net-tte— down monarchy. she says she's net-tte a— down monarchy. she says she's net-tte a peat- down monarchy. she says she's not it's a good idea. not sure if it's a good idea. tne— not sure if it's a good idea. tte-te— not sure if it's a good idea. the-is widely- not sure if it's a good idea. the is widely reported the king is widely reported to want— the king is widely reported to want-reduce— the king is widely reported to want-reduce the- the king is widely reported to want reduce the number of want to reduce the number of mamma— want to reduce the number of netttnp rotate— want to reduce the number of working royals and cut back on repat— working royals and cut back on neyat etatttna— working royals and cut back on royal staffing. let's have a ttttte— royal staffing. let's have a little listen,— royal staffing. let's have a little listen, shall we? o" little listen, shall we? oh, i tntnt— little listen, shall we? oh, i tntnt tte— little listen, shall we? oh, i think the slimmed down was was said in a day when there were a few people around to make few more people around to make that seem like a justified right comment. the world changes a tan — comment. the world changes a tan tt— comment. the world changes a tan tt enanpee— comment. the world changes a bit. it changes a— comment. the world changes a bit. it changes a bit. - f the world changes a bit. it changes a bit. i mean, it bit. it changes a bit. i mean, tt teem-t— bit. it changes a bit. i mean, it doesn't sound like a good idea from where i'm standing, i have to say, not quite sure have to say, i'm not quite sure what else we can do . like one of what else we can do. like one of my vtewene— what else we can do. like one of my nae— what else we can do. like one of my viewers has just— what else we can do. like one of my viewers has just got- 25" 22 like one of my viewers has just got in tenan— my viewers has just got in teaen ty— my viewers has just got in touch, by the _ my viewers has just got in touch, by the way, saying he teeen-t— touch, by the way, saying he doesn't want— touch, by the way, saying he doesn't want underwear chat nnttet— doesn't want underwear chat whilst having— doesn't want underwear chat whilst having his tea. it's patte— whilst having his tea. it's patte tent.— whilst having his tea. it's quite right. it's a bit too exetttna— quite right. it's a bit too exciting-can- quite right. it's a bit too exciting. can say to you exciting. all i can say to you is, exciting. all i can say to you te meet,— exciting. all i can say to you te ppga, tt— exciting. all i can say to you is, nigel, if john— exciting. all i can say to you is, nigel, if john mctiernan's underneat— is, nigel, if john mctiernan's underwear enough to underwear chat is enough to exette— underwear chat is enough to ete-even- underwear chat is enough to excite -over their- underwear chat is enough to excite over their tea, excite people over their tea, tte— excite people over their tea, tte-tanner- excite people over their tea, i've further comment to i've got no further comment to mate— i've got no further comment to mateltnat. — i've got no further comment to make that. watershed on make on that. so watershed on yes,— make on that. so watershed on pee .— make on that. so watershed on pee . etatt— make on that. so watershed on pee, t enatttaet— make on that. so watershed on yes, i shall just on. the yes, i shall just move on. the monafchy-_ yes, i shall just move on. the monarchy. -with - yes, i shall just move on. the monarchy. with you, monarchy. i'll start with you, eatnten. — monarchy. i'll start with you, quinton. -think- monarchy. i'll start with you, quinton-think it- monarchy. i'll start with you, quinton. think it needs quinton. do you think it needs to te— quinton. do you think it needs to be slimmed— quinton. do you think it needs to be slimmed down? ' ”t2 quinton. do you think it needs to be slimmed down? ' "2 "2 to be slimmed down? are we sure that— to be slimmed down? are we sure that princess is going that the princess royal is going to up at the coronation on to turn up at the coronation on saturday because it clashes with to turn up at the coronation on satibadminton se it clashes with to turn up at the coronation on satibadminton horse lashes with to turn up at the coronation on satibadminton horse trials? with to turn up at the coronation on satibadminton horse trials? and the badminton horse trials? and i'm that's i,

i'm not sure that's but i, i she's my favourite member of the royal family uh, she's so direct. wouldn't dare direct. you wouldn't dare disagree so i'm disagree with her. so i'm not going and think it's going to. and i think it's probably gone. it has already started the slimming down process. started the slimming down proces much of prince andrew. pretty much of prince andrew. a nafion pretty much of prince andrew. a nation mourns and harry and meghan are off the ranch . i'm meghan are off the ranch. i'm on. i'm pleased about that. and i saw today at the palace of westminster. i saw the queen camilla turned up and she didn't turn up at the same time as the king and she came in her own car and it was a filthy old audi. so i think that this cost cutting has gone far enough. it was sort of looked like a sales reps car. i thought she was going to produce a samples from the from the boot and i just i'm not sure that the nation wants a really trimmed one. they they trimmed back one. they want they don't heavy spending. they trimmed back one. they want they don't want heavy spending. they trimmed back one. they want they don't want exaggerated ing. they trimmed back one. they want they don't want exaggerated spending. they hypocritical they don't want hypocritical spending. but i don't think they want cheese pairing. erg john, your i think i'd like your thoughts? i think i'd like to see a hard working royal family it will be a slimmer royal family because there's fewer children and one's in

exile . and you're unhappy about exile. and you're unhappy about that? i am unhappy about that. i would. i'd like to. you're a harry lover. i'm a meghan lover. you're not a harry like her. no, look , i think the royal family look, i think the royal family do a great job. a constitutional monarchy is the right settlement for the uk. far rather have a king charles than than president trump or president eamonn de valera. like they had in ireland for so long. for decades. and i think a royal family that were focussed on promoting the country, promoting industry, focussed on promoting the country, prourtting industry, focussed on promoting the country, prour servicesistry, focussed on promoting the country, prour services ,ptry, focussed on promoting the country, prour services , things promoting our services, things like that, i think that would actually good. so i'm actually be quite good. so i'm probably puritanical probably a bit puritanical and calvinist about it. harder working and a bit smaller. i think they do work quite- think they do work quite hard tneapn—veanl think they do work quite hard- though,_yeah. what though, don't they? yeah. what neute— though, don't they? yeah. what neatt yea— though, don't they? yeah. what neatt yea nave— though, don't they? / what would you have them do? you'd be nntpptnp. — would you have them do? you'd be nntpptnp. net— would you have them do? you'd be nntpptnp. eet mete— would you have them do? you'd be whipping. get more hours. more none— whipping. get more hours. more neae team— whipping. get more hours. more neae vean — whipping. get more hours. more hours. yeah do— whipping. get more hours. more hours. yeah do do— whipping. get more hours. more. hours. yeah do do-more. hours. yeah do do more, do more. getting out and promoting global britain. i think princess britain. i think the princess royal does about 500 events. she's great charity patron. she's a great charity patron. i think she's and she's well respected by all the people in the new duke of edinburgh. there's a lot doesn't he. there's quite a lot doesn't he. i there's quite a lot doesn't he. . tntnt. — there's quite a lot doesn't he. ttntnt. -tney- there's quite a lot doesn't he. i think. -they work- i think. i think they work

pretty— i think. i think they work pretty-tat- i think. i think they work pretty-not hard. i think. i think they work- pretty-not hard enough for pretty hard. not hard enough for john and harry and meghan. they're your favourites. i like i like. i know. look at him. he's he's rowing back on his way. no, no, no, no, no. i was going to say way. no, no, no, no, no. i was petnp to eat me— way. no, no, no, no, no. i was going to say the reason- \t2t iwas going to say the reason why \tt2t i was going to say the reason why do \wit i was going to say the reason why do i tte— going to say the reason why do i ttte tneme— going to say the reason why do i ttte tneme t— going to say the reason why do i like them? i like— going to say the reason why do i like them? i like them because tnet— like them? i like them because tnet ae— like them? i like them because tnet a— like them? i like them because they are a 21st— like them? i like them because they are a 21st century couple. nam— they are a 21st century couple. nanny. nanny-e— they are a 21st century couple. nanny. name a— they are a 21st century couple. harry. harry's a man trying to tatt— harry. harry's a man trying to tatt attent— harry. harry's a man trying to talk about his— harry. harry's a man trying to talk about his feelings, which is talk about his feelings, which te neattt— talk about his feelings, which is really important because men talk about his feelings, which is ineed important because men talk about his feelings, which is ineed to portant because men talk about his feelings, which is ineed to talkant because men talk about his feelings, which is ineed to talkan'bittcause men talk about his feelings, which is ineed to talkan'bit mores men talk about his feelings, which is ineed to talkan'bit more about do need to talk a bit more about tttnpe— do need to talk a bit more about tntnpe. nepnan— do need to talk a bit more about things. meghan know, things. meghan is you know, ene-e— things. meghan is you know, she's-race. she's- things. meghan is you know,- she's-race. she's she's. she's mixed race. she's she's. no,— she's mixed race. she's she's. to, ene-e— she's mixed race. she's she's. no, she's mixed.— she's mixed race. she's she's. no, she's mixed. she's- she's mixed race. no, she's mixed. she's mixed ant— no, she's mixed. she's mixed race. and she's— no, she's mixed. she's mixed race. and she's part of she's part— race. and she's part of she's pant et— race. and she's part of she's pan at me— race. and she's part of she's part of the nature of modern part of the nature of the modern went.— part of the nature of the modern went-tnem— part of the nature of the modern went.-tnem te- part of the nature of the modern world.-them to be- world. and for them to be ettpnttt— world. and for them to be slightly -from - world. and for them to be- slightly -from .family world. and for them to be- s i ghtly-from .family world. and for them to be- si think-from-family world. and for them to be si think that's from family world. and for them to be si think that's bad. family world. and for them to be si think that's bad. the family , i think that's bad. the tneatte— , i think that's bad. the trouble with— , i think that's bad. the trouble with being fashionable, tneapn— trouble with being fashionable, tneapn te— trouble with being fashionable, though, is that— trouble with being fashionable, though, is that you can go out of though, is that you can go out at taenten— though, is that you can go out of fashion quite _ though, is that you can go out of fashion quite quickly. the taenten— of fashion quite quickly. the fashion—master. fashion is a terrible master because keep up with because you have to keep up with it she sure as anything it and she sure as anything happens they fall out of happens they will fall out of fashion then we'll think, fashion and then we'll think, well, what was the point of them? i an unfashionable, well, what was the point of the unfashionable unfashionable, well, what was the point of theunfashionable monarchyable, an unfashionable monarchy is more think. more enduring. yeah, i think. but think actually but i think they're actually tte— but i think they're actually tt-e net— but i think they're actually it's not that— but i think they're actually it's not that they're fashionable. the celebrities and the fashionable. the celebrities and tne-tnat— fashionable. the celebrities and the -that-things. the thing is that many things in our the thing is that many things in eeetett— the thing is that many things in our society become our society have become tntepnatet— integrated with celebrity pettttee— integrated with celebrity politics, royalty politics, has the royalty has. ant—

politics, has the royalty has. ant t— politics, has the royalty has. ant t tntnt— politics, has the royalty has. and i think celebrities in a way ten-t— and i think celebrities in a way ten-t even— and i think celebrities in a way don't ever-out— and i think celebrities in a way don't ever out fashion. don't ever go out of fashion. t hey— don't ever go out of fashion. they-narrative- don't ever go out of fashion. they narrative arc to they have a narrative arc to men— they have a narrative arc to tnetn-tnev— they have a narrative arc to their-they have- they have a narrative arc to their they have triumphs. their lives. they have triumphs. they— their lives. they have triumphs. tnev—temttel they have they have terrible tnapettee— they have they have terrible tragedies. but— they have they have terrible tragedies. but actually, like eeap—etav- tragedies. but actually, likei soap—stay around. soap stars, they stay around. me— soap stars, they stay around.| tne—tnem the story always keeps them awn-t— the story always keeps them around-being- around. they keep being reinvented.— around. they keep being reinvented. think royalty reinvented. and i think royalty teee— reinvented. and i think royalty etee—texture- reinvented. and i think royalty does—texture of- reinvented. and i think royalty does texture of life, does add to the texture of life, the does add to the texture of life, tte-et— does add to the texture of life, tne-et tte.— does add to the texture of life, the -of life. it's- does add to the texture of life, the of life. it's part of the gaiety of life. it's part of entan— the gaiety of life. it's part of britain. and— the gaiety of life. it's part of britain. and i— the gaiety of life. it's part of britain. and i wouldn't i veattn-t— britain. and i wouldn't i wouldn't want- britain. and i wouldn't i wouldn't want to see the back of it. wouldn't want to see the back of t. .t-m— wouldn't want to see the back of tt-t-m mteetnp— wouldn't want to see the back of it. i'm missing harry and it. and i'm missing harry and tteptan— it. and i'm missing harry and nepnan. vea— it. and i'm missing harry and meghan. you missed some of the eanaeete — meghan. you missed some of the characters. _sittingl characters. will you be sitting at home thinking to yourself, i'm missing i'm really missing the characters that are harry and meghan will you be sitting there thinking, thank goodness, obviously she obviously he's coming, but she is do you think that is the is not. do you think that is the right do you think it's right move? do you think it's the her not to the right move for her not to come, by the way? meghan i think yes, i think she'd be yes, i do. i think she'd be taped.— yes, i do. i think she'd be teeet. t-m— yes, i do. i think she'd be booed. i'm really- ;t2~5 2tit i think she'd be booed. i'm really sorry about neanan— booed. i'm really sorry about neanan-neattv- booed. i'm really sorry about meghan really liked meghan because i really liked her meghan because i really liked net—t— meghan because i really liked net—t tneapnt- meghan because i really liked her i thought she her at first and i thought she was some of things that was some of those things that tenn— was some of those things that jenn-enme— was some of those things that john - saying. she - was some of those things that john saying. she was modern, john was saying. she was modern, teen— john was saying. she was modern, tneen ant— john was saying. she was modern, tneen ant ene— john was saying. she was modern, fresh, and she was— john was saying. she was modern, fresh, and she was rather tnvtpenattna— fresh, and she was rather invigorating but invigorating in some ways. but tnen— invigorating in some ways. but tnen t— invigorating in some ways. but tnen t ten-t— invigorating in some ways. but then, i don't know, little, ttttte—a- then, i don't know, little,- ttttte—altee little me took over a bit too meet. — little me took over a bit too meet. ant— little me took over a bit too much. and -you - little me took over a bit too much. and you had the sheer much. and then you had the sheer nvpeenev— much. and then you had the sheer nvpeenev attent— much. and then you had the sheer hypocrisy about calling for, you mew,— hypocrisy about calling for, you tnevv-tne — hypocrisy about calling for, you know,-the sort- hypocrisy about calling for, you know,-the sort of- hypocrisy about calling for, you know, the sort of global know, joining the sort of global vvanmtna—tnenl know, joining the sort of global. warming—then using warming campaign and then using pnvate—tt- private jets. i just thought it

eae—ant- private jets. i just thought it nae—ant vea- private jets. i just thought it was and you talk was untenable. and you talk about—et- about celebrity, some of it. tte-te— about celebrity, some of it. were getttng— about celebrity, some of it. were getttng a— about celebrity, some of it. we're getting a bit- about celebrity, some of it. we're getting a bit more. we're getting a bit more information now about the guest list stuff for the list and stuff for the coronation ant coronation so people like ant and will be in attendance. and dec will be in attendance. do think that's the right do you think that's the right move? well, ant and dec are some of move? well, ant and dec are some at me— move? well, ant and dec are some at tne meet— move? well, ant and dec are some of the most popular— , well, ant and dec are some of the most popular and mainstream— of the most popular and mainstream figures in british entertainment.— mainstream figures in british enttabsolutely _ mainstream figures in british enttabsolutely right that it's absolutely right that tnev-ne— it's absolutely right that they're there. - it's absolutely right that they're there. mean, it could they're there. i mean, it could aetaattv— they're there. i mean, it could actually-produced- they're there. i mean, it could actually produced by actually be produced by antoinette, _ actually be produced by. antoinette, _ the antoinette, couldn't it? the covenatten— antoinette, couldn't it? the coronation obe._ antoinette, couldn't it? the coronation obe. but if you're tnvtnp— coronation obe. but if you're tryinglmake_ coronation obe. but if you're trying make things down, trying to make things slow down, if trying to make things slow down, tt—tntnpei if you're trying to slim things tawn— if you're trying to slim things town-tanne- if you're trying to slim things town-tntnp te - down, if you're trying to demonstrate,- down, if you're trying to demonstrate, look us. down, if you're trying to- demonstrate, look-us. we're demonstrate, look at us. we're all demonstrate, look at us. we're at attent— demonstrate, look at us. we're all about effective tax spending and the of we're and all the rest of it. we're not be frivolous with not going to be frivolous with our yes, i the our cash. yes, i know the connection between ant and dec is with the princes trust is to do with the princes trust and rest of it. but some and all the rest of it. but some of these invitees, they raise eyebrows me, bit like the eyebrows to me, bit like the honours list. you've got to have a sprinkling-— honours list. you've got to have a sprinkling. yeah,— honours list. you've got to have a sprinkling. yeah, a— l you've got to have a sprinkling. yeah, a little sprinkling-— a sprinkling. yeah, a little sprinkling-so. a sprinkling. yeah, a little sprinkling.-so duke sprinkling. imagine. so the duke of sprinkling. imagine. so the duke et-tne— sprinkling. imagine. so the duke et-tne tant— sprinkling. imagine. so the duke et-tne tan et- sprinkling. imagine. so the duke of-the earl of ant,- sprinkling. imagine. so the duke of the earl of ant, they of dec and the earl of ant, they vvttt— of dec and the earl of ant, they will undoubtedly— of dec and the earl of ant, they will undoubtedly become one day. it's will undoubtedly become one day. tte-tat— will undoubtedly become one day. tt-eltat tntnp— will undoubtedly become one day. it's-bad thing to— will undoubtedly become one day. it's bad thing to have 1 or 2 it's no bad thing to have 1 or 2 tte— it's no bad thing to have 1 or 2 tte-vea— it's no bad thing to have 1 or 2 like-you don't— it's no bad thing to have 1 or 2 like you don't want to like that. you don't want to evete— like that. you don't want to evete tt— like that. you don't want to overdo it.-don't- like that. you don't want to. overdo it.-don't-the overdo it. you don't want the vvnete— overdo it. you don't want the vnete-ten-t- overdo it. you don't want the whole-don't-sirl overdo it. you don't want the- whole-don't-sir alan whole of you don't want sir alan satan — whole of you don't want sir alan satan- tnene— whole of you don't want sir alan sugar. there oh,— whole of you don't want sir alan sugar. there oh, no. i think tnene-e— sugar. there oh, no. i think tnene-e a— sugar. there oh, no. i think there's a limit— sugar. there oh, no. i think there's a limit one's levels there's a limit to one's levels of

there's a limit to one's levels et—t- there's a limit to one's levels et—t tntnt- of endurance, but i think a ttttte— of endurance, but i think a ttttte ett— of endurance, but i think a little bit of.— of endurance, but i think a little bit of. don't you talk attent— little bit of. don't you talk ateat mv— little bit of. don't you talk about my father. t2 about my father. he's probably. i'm sorry. forgot about. i'm sorry. sorry i forgot about. he's done an awful lot he's probably done an awful lot for enterprise. i'm getting people involved in. oh, he's a tntnttat— - people involved in. oh, he's a frightful all frightful little squirt. all ttnte— frightful little squirt. all kinds the kinds of representatives of the commonwealth going to be commonwealth are going to be here and you're here as well. and if you're vatettnp— here as well. and if you're vatentnt, t-m— here as well. and if you're watching, i'm sorry,- "242 and if you're watching, i'm sorry, johnny theo vvateett,— watching, i'm sorry, johnny theo waap, mv— watching, i'm sorry, johnny theo walcott, my boss.— watching, i'm sorry, johnny theo walcott, my boss. \wit walcott, my boss. i'm no, you enentt— walcott, my boss. i'm no, you should defend your boss. should always defend your boss. your former your boss. so's your former boss. anyway. anyway, boss. anyway. but anyway, there's all kinds of representatives going to be coming the coming here from the commonwealth, is commonwealth, and that is a great see, you know. great thing to see, you know. king charles head of the king charles as the head of the commonwealth, is a great institution. and to see that connection, ursula von der leyen, you she's quite leyen, do you think she's quite an i mean, she's an important i mean, she's a really important, it's not really important, but it's not just her. we're having the other two just her. we're having the other tve pneettente— just her. we're having the other two presidents .the - we're having the other two presidents the european two presidents of the european unen— two presidents of the european tnten ae— two presidents of the european union as well— two presidents of the european union as well-the- two presidents of the european union as well the eu. they union as well from the eu. they nave— union as well from the eu. they nave-mtee— union as well from the eu. they nave-tnnee et- have they have three of them. vte-te— have they have three of them. were-tent— have they have three of them. we're-going we're- have they have three of them. we're-going we're still- we're still going we're still going the going on holidays to the european union. we're still trade european union. trade for the european union. it's biggest single it's still our biggest single single market that we exported. if course, we would be if you, of course, we would be tatt— if you, of course, we would be taetltnene, — if you, of course, we would be back there, wouldn't back in there, john, wouldn't vee— back in there, john, wouldn't we?-definitely- back in there, john, wouldn't we? definitely be back in there, john, wouldn't- we?-definitely be back we? we would definitely be back in we? we would definitely be back tn-ntten— we? we would definitely be back tn-nttenlnet- in there. joe biden is not eemtnt— in there. joe biden is not eemtnt. tte— in there. joe biden is not coming. his wife, jill, she's etanttnt— coming. his wife, jill, she's etanttnt tn— coming. his wife, jill, she's standing in his— coming. his wife, jill, she's standing in his place. / standing in his place. yeah, teet—

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vvnat— put in its place then? that's vnat t— put in its place then? that's what i found— put in its place then? that's what i found fascinating. what went— what i found fascinating. what vent-pate— what i found fascinating. what would put? because one of would you put? because one of the would you put? because one of tne tntnte— would you put? because one of the things princess anne the things that princess anne eavtnt— the things that princess anne was saying about stability was saying is about stability ant—vnat- was saying is about stability and _what was and continuity and what she was eavtnt. —vea-ttvei saying. obviously, you have five vea— saying. obviously, you have five year parliaments. _ saying. obviously, you have five year parliaments. and year parliaments. they come and tnev—tamttvl they go. but the royal family pnevttee— they go. but the royal family pnevttee-tnev- provides stability. they do. ant— provides stability. they do. ant that-e— provides stability. they do. and that's the— provides stability. they do. and that's the that- provides stability. they do. and that's the that is- provides stability. they do. and that's the that is the argument them. what do you argument for them. what do you think argument for them. what do you tntnt-ve— argument for them. what do you think-we need— argument for them. what do you think-we need that- think that we need that etatttttv— think that we need that stability, though, in a manner— stability, though, in a enanttnte - stability, though, in a changing? �*ft�*ti 2 stability, though, in a— changing? we certainly needed it last mean, last autumn, didn't we? i mean, they quite handy then. well they were quite handy then. well what do guys make to that? what do you guys make to that? because to say, for as because i have to say, for as many— because i have to say, for as manv et— because i have to say, for as manv et-ae— because i have to say, for as many of as saying that many of you as saying that vet-te— many of you as saying that vete-mte- many of you as saying that you're-into the- you're getting into the coronation,— you're getting into the coronation, that you're excited attent— coronation, that you're excited ateat n,— coronation, that you're excited ateat p, tve— coronation, that you're excited about it, i've equally got peepte— people saying, you know, do away.— people saying, you know, do avvavlvea— people saying, you know, do avvavlvea meet- people saying, you know, do away, you need to tell me if away, but you need to tell me if vet-te— away, but you need to tell me if vet-te-tnat-e- away, but you need to tell me if you're-that's-do you're someone that's saying do away— you're someone that's saying do away-nevate— you're someone that's saying do avav-tevate .- you're someone that's saying do away-royals , who- you're someone that's saying do away royals , who would away with the royals, who would you away with the royals, who would vet—oavtti you replace them with? david ttetten— you replace them with? david ttetten tte— you replace them with? david ttetten tte-a— you replace them with? david mellor. it's-a ring,- you replace them with? david mellor. it's a ring, hasn't mellor. it's got a ring, hasn't it? i could have. president snant. — it? i could have. president snant. nev— it? i could have. president sharif. hey, tony- l?’ 22 president sharif. hey, tony blair has aetaattv— sharif. hey, tony blair has actually been— sharif. hey, tony blair has actually been invited, hasn't he sharif. hey, tony blair has actwell, been invited, hasn't he sharif. hey, tony blair has actwell, guy? ivited, hasn't he sharif. hey, tony blair has actwell, guy? tit" 2 isn't he sharif. hey, tony blair has- actwell, guy? tonight, president as well, guy? tonight, president shanf as well, guy? tonight, president sharif, my viewers says, sharif, one of my viewers says, i could have bet my mortgage on john in harry and meghan. john like in harry and meghan. there you go. i hope didn't there you go. i hope you didn't put— there you go. i hope you didn't pat-aetaat— there you go. i hope you didn't put-actual-down. there you go. i hope you didn'ti put-actual-down on put your actual money down on it. put your actual money down on t. retent— put your actual money down on t. tttnt. t-m— put your actual money down on it. right. i'm going take it. right. i'm going to take a amet— it. right. i'm going to take a tent—t- it. right. i'm going to take a tatet—t eemel it. right. i'm going to take a. quick—i come back, quick break. when i come back, i'll quick break. when i come back, t-tt nave— quick break. when i come back, i'll have some— quick break. when i come back, i'll have some more of your teettaet. — i'll have some more of your feedback. what— i'll have some more of your feedback. what do you make to all

feedback. what do you make to attltnte— feedback. what do you make to attltnte tn— feedback. what do you make to all this in background? all of this in the background? i tntnt— all of this in the background? i think-absolutely— all of this in the background? i think absolutely beautiful. think it's absolutely beautiful. it's think it's absolutely beautiful. tte-tav— think it's absolutely beautiful. tt-e-tavlvea- it's a great day. are you evettet— it's a great day. are you- excited-coronation? excited about the coronation? nee— excited about the coronation? ne-e—ttmel excited about the coronation? ne-e—ttme. vvei excited about the coronation?- he's_time. we sat he's having a great time. we sat next— he's having a great time. we sat next-ae— he's having a great time. we sat next-us outside— he's having a great time. we sat next us outside buckingham next to us outside of buckingham tataee. — next to us outside of buckingham tataee. -navtnt- next to us outside of buckingham palace. -having a- next to us outside of buckingham palace. having a great palace. are you having a great ttmee— palace. are you having a great ttmee-vea— palace. are you having a great time?-you getting- palace. are you having a great time? you getting it? time? are you getting into it? atee— time? are you getting into it? etee-tte— time? are you getting into it? also-the break- time? are you getting into it? also-the break as- time? are you getting into it? also the break as well, also after the break as well, tetr— also after the break as well, keir starmer— also after the break as well, keir starmer armour. he's taeteattv— keir starmer armour. he's basically breaking one of his ptettee— basically breaking one of his pledges university pledges this time university teee. — pledges this time universityi fees. _ university fees. do you think university eneatt— fees. do you think university eneatt te— fees. do you think university eneatt te .—

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/ your friends and family? yeah, they— your friends and family? yeah, they ett— your friends and family? v425" 52 old shoutout from the they are. old shoutout from the ten natnmat— they are. old shoutout from the ten bakhmut later. _ 52 old shoutout from the ten bakhmut later. v425 right. ten bakhmut later. yes. right. tet-e— ten bakhmut later. yes. right. tet-e meve— ten bakhmut later. yes. right. tet-e te— ten bakhmut later. yes. right. let's move to on— ten bakhmut later. v425 right. let's move to on other matters. tetr— let's move to on other matters. tett stamen— let's move to on other matters. keir starmer. he's— let's move to on other matters. keir starmer. he's not even in etttee— keir starmer. he's not even in etttee-a— keir starmer. he's not even in etttee-a tat— keir starmer. he's not even in office a but there's been office yet is a but there's been tete— office yet is a but there's been tete et— office yet is a but there's been lots of focus— office yet is a but there's been lots of focus on— office yet is a but there's been lots of focus on potential u—tame— lots of focus on potential u—tame .— lots of focus on potential u—turns. now- lots of focus on potential u—turns . now we've looking u—turns. now we've been looking at-te— u—turns. now we've been looking at—te eenap— u—turns. now we've been looking at-to scrap universal- at a pledge to scrap universal tattten— at a pledge to scrap universal tattten teee— at a pledge to scrap universal tuition fees. now— at a pledge to scrap universal tuition fees. now if he forms a tevemment— tuition fees. now if he forms a government initially of course, vet-tt—tnat- government initially of course, vet-tt—tnat ne- government initially of course, you'll that he said you'll remember that he said tnat— you'll remember that he said that basically— you'll remember that he said that basically he— you'll remember that he said that basically he would keep the ptemtee— that basically he would keep the pnemtee tnat— that basically he would keep the promise that was— that basically he would keep the promise that was first put tentat— promise that was first put forward jeremy corbyn, but forward by jeremy corbyn, but mev-tnat— forward by jeremy corbyn, but new-tnat tne— forward by jeremy corbyn, but now that the economic now says that the economic ettmate — now says that the economic ettmate-taet- now says that the economic climate just isn't climate basically just isn't tent.— climate basically just isn't ngnt. john— climate basically just isn't ngnt. john tt— climate basically just isn't right. john if memory serves right. john if my memory serves me eemeettv— right. john if my memory serves me eemeettv .— right. john if my memory serves me correctly , you— right. john if my memory serves me correctly , you was on my show me correctly, you was on my show atev— me correctly, you was on my show atev veete— me correctly, you was on my show a tev veete ate— me correctly, you was on my show a few weeks ago and— me correctly, you was on my show a few weeks ago and you were eavtnt— a few weeks ago and you were eavtnt te— a few weeks ago and you were eavtng te me— a few weeks ago and you were saying to me that— a few weeks ago and you were saying to me that you thought vete— saying to me that you thought we vae— saying to me that you thought we a— saying to me that you thought vete a teet— saying to me that you thought 75% was a good was a 75% was a good target, was a teet— 75% was a good target, was a teet-tet— 75% was a good target, was a teet-tet te- good target to get to university. - good target to get to university. i- good target to get to university. i said i thought he

tatttnt— university. i said i thought he was talking bonkers. you was talking bonkers. have you eene—etnee | was talking bonkers. have you. come—since? no. come to your senses since? no. ten— come to your senses since? no. ten te— come to your senses since? no. ten te etu— come to your senses since? no. ten te etttt mv— come to your senses since? no. 75% is still my right. so my number one, i agree with david willetts. me and lord willetts. so as me and lord willetts, cross—party willetts, it's a cross—party arrangement. so 75% should be going university and john's going to university and john's mind. let's talk this mind. let's talk about this vnete— mind. let's talk about this whole notion— mind. let's talk about this whole notion then- 2 let's talk about this whole notion then of tuition fee — whole notion then of tuition fee ne— whole notion then of tuition fee tee vea— whole notion then of tuition fees. do you think do you think taeteattv— fees. do you think do you think taeteattv-te— fees. do you think do you think basically-be free- fees. do you think do you think basically be free to basically it should be free to go . university?— basically it should be free to go university? no, you can't go to university? no, you can't you— go to university? no, you can't vet-epen— go to university? no, you can't you open university to as you can't open university to as many— you can't open university to as many-ae— you can't open university to as many-as needed- you can't open university to as many as needed and would many people as needed and would benefit— many people as needed and would tenettt teem — many people as needed and would benefit from it— many people as needed and would benefit from it if— many people as needed and would benefit from it if it— many people as needed and would benefit from it if it was free. ven— benefit from it if it was free. vet nave— benefit from it if it was free. vet nave te — benefit from it if it was free. you have to have— benefit from it if it was free. you have to have a- benefit from it if it was free. you have to have a fee- benefit from it if it was free. you have to have a fee structure of some form. you have to balance the benefits of the country and the benefits of the individual. but £9,000 is just too much and you can tell it's too much and you can tell it's too because more than half too much because more than half of people who've student of people who've got student loans the government loans are even the government says are never to pay says now are never going to pay them so the system is them back. and so the system is why they going to pay it why are they not going to pay it back? because they're not going to they're not going to earn enough money. now, let's push tnat—wnv- enough money. now, let's push tnat—wnv ate- enough money. now, let's pushi that—why are they that forward. then. why are they not that forward. then. why are they net-te— that forward. then. why are they net-te-eneatn- that forward. then. why are they not to enough money? not going to earn enough money? neeaaee— not going to earn enough money? because degrees— not going to earn enough money? because degrees become because degrees have become tevataet— devalued because they are ten a pennv. — devalued because they are ten a pennv. .tt— devalued because they are ten a penny. .tt vea— devalued because they are ten a pennv-tt yet get- devalued because they are ten a penny. if you get your wish, penny. and if you get your wish, even more people— penny. and if you get your wish, even more people going even more people are going nuts teeaaee— because they've got because tnev-ve— because they've got because they've extortionate because they've got because they've on extortionate because they've got because they've on them. tnate because they've got because they've on them.

interest on them. the most the most extortionate interest. anybody charges the moment. anybody charges at the moment. i think thoughts? think quentin, your thoughts? i've children who have i've got two children who have teen— i've got two children who have teen eettet— i've got two children who have been sorted through university ant— been sorted through university ant-etu— been sorted through university and-still there- been sorted through university and still there and and one who's still there and m — and one who's still there and m tatteae— and one who's still there and i'm dubious about the value of the i'm dubious about the value of tne eeateee— i'm dubious about the value of the courses that— i'm dubious about the value of the courses that certainly they nave — the courses that certainly they. nave—peter have experienced. i would prefer to have experienced. i would prefer te eee— have experienced. i would prefer te etttnttv— have experienced. i would prefer to see slightly cheaper universities— to see slightly cheaper universities for fewer people. i'd universities for fewer people. t-t preten— universities for fewer people. t-t pteten .— universities for fewer people. i'd prefer , funnily enough, to i'd prefer, funnily enough, to mate— i'd prefer, funnily enough, to make universities more elitist ant— make universities more elitist ant nave— make universities more elitist and have fewer— make universities more elitist and have fewer people going tnete— and have fewer people going tnene ant— and have fewer people going there and only— and have fewer people going there and only and have them eneapen— there and only and have them eneapen tat— there and only and have them cheaper, but have— there and only and have them cheaper, but have them really for cheaper, but have them really ten peepte— cheaper, but have them really ten peepte vvne— cheaper, but have them really for people who needed to go to antvenettv— for people who needed to go to university intellectually and professionally. _ university intellectually and professionally. yeah like a team— professionally. yeah like a brain surgeon.— professionally. yeah like a brain surgeon. 2tit brain surgeon. i do not want operating on me without a university degree and qualifications. yeah, but your standard, know, your standard, you know, your professions you're professions now, so you're policing your nursing, you know, all of these kind of professions that now you have to have a degree to get into. i can ask a little bit. pointless. yeah. i ten-t— little bit. pointless. yeah. i ten-t tntnt— little bit. pointless. yeah. i don't think i— little bit. pointless. yeah. i don't think i don't- l . pointless. yeah. i don't think i don't think you meet— don't think i don't think you meet te— don't think i don't think you need to have— don't think i don't think you need to have a— don't think i don't think you need to have a university degree say,— need to have a university degree eav. te— need to have a university degree eav. te te— need to have a university degree eav. te telpnmanv— need to have a university degree say, to be primary school say, to be a primary school teaenen— say, to be a primary school teacher. but— say, to be a primary school teacher. but that is how it's tetnt— teacher. but that is how it's being presented— teacher. but that is how it's being presented now. ditto to be a i being presented now. ditto to be a-t nea— being presented now. ditto to be a-t meanltnevv- being presented now. ditto to be a-i mean,iknow a- being presented now. ditto to be a i mean, know a kid a nurse. i mean, i know a kid vvne-e— a nurse. i mean, i know a kid vvne-e-a— a nurse. i mean, i know a kid who's-a university- a nurse. i mean, i know a kid who's a university degree who's got a university degree vte-e— who's got a university degree we going— who's got a university degree we tetnt te— who's got a university degree who's going to and work who's going to go and work

tentnt— who's going to go and work tentnt a— who's going to go and work behind a desk— who's going to go and work behind a desk at a car hire eempanv.— behind a desk at a car hire eempanv. t— behind a desk at a car hire company. i think that's company. i don't think that's necessary-think- company. i don't think that's necessary. think it's necessary. and i think it's tatter— necessary. and i think it's rather—that'sj necessary. and i think it's- rather_that's not rather dispiriting. that's not tease— rather dispiriting. that's not because he studied to because he studied something to do desks or do with cars or desks or whatever, because can't whatever, but because he can't get his chosen profession, get into his chosen profession, right? that's right. and, you mev.— right? that's right. and, you tnevvleeeme— right? that's right. and, you know,.seems to— right? that's right. and, you know,.seems to me- 2 27 that's right. and, you know, seems to me rather know, it seems to me rather tteptnttnt— know, it seems to me rather dispiriting. it's— know, it seems to me rather dispiriting. it's also they pnetattv— dispiriting. it's also they probably more dispiriting. it's also they probably-more life probably learn more about life if probably learn more about life tt—ventet- probably learn more about lifei tt—ventet-tn if they went and worked out in tneee— if they went and worked out in those university— if they went and worked out in those university years and don't you— those university years and don't you we've we've kind of you i mean, we've we've kind of nat— you i mean, we've we've kind of had-conversation. - you i mean, we've we've kind of had-conversation. i- you i mean, we've we've kind of had conversation. had this conversation. i worry so had this conversation. i worry ee meet— had this conversation. i worry ee meet ttat— had this conversation. i worry so much that when these so much that when you set these kind of these targets, kind of just these targets, let's more education, let's push more education, education, get let's push more education, educépeople get let's push more education, educépeople into get let's push more education, educépeople into university, et more people into university, then it just this almost then it just becomes this almost kind of token status. yes. my child's got a degree or whatever , and the employer then starts just adding the word 2—1 or above on the bottom of all of their job above on the bottom of all of theirjob applications. it means absolutely nothing . oh, look, i absolutely nothing. oh, look, i think the nature _ absolutely nothing. oh, look, i think the nature of— absolutely nothing. oh, look, i think the nature of the- ail; 2 oh, look, i think the nature of the modern tatem— think the nature of the modern labour market,— think the nature of the modern labour market, we've seen it vvttn— labour market, we've seen it vvttn tte— labour market, we've seen it with the introduction of ai into tntnte— with the introduction of ai into tntnte te— with the introduction of ai into tntnte te tnat— with the introduction of ai into things is that more and more etmpte— things is that more and more simple skills,— things is that more and more simple skills, anything, it can be automated— simple skills, anything, it can be automated ,— simple skills, anything, it can be automated , gets automated, be automated, gets automated, tntnte— be automated, gets automated, tntnte ae— be automated, gets automated, things are being— be automated, gets automated, things are being automated in tete— things are being automated in tete et— things are being automated in tete et aeae— things are being automated in lots of areas and— things are being automated in lots of areas and that what you meet— lots of areas and that what you meet te— lots of areas and that what you meet te mee— lots of areas and that what you need is more creativity, more

more human skills, more of the tntetaettve— more human skills, more of the interactive skills. _ more human skills, more of the interactive skills. and i think tnat— interactive skills. and i think tnat tet— interactive skills. and i think that for people _ interactive skills. and i think that for people to spend the tree— that for people to spend the tee veate— that for people to spend the three years from _ that for people to spend the three years from being 18 to 21 in three years from being 18 to 21 tn untvenettv— three years from being 18 to 21 in university or— three years from being 18 to 21 in university or maybe two teae— in university or maybe two veae a— in university or maybe two veae a tve — in university or maybe two years, a two year degree, could tettnttetv— years, a two year degree, could tettnttetv te— years, a two year degree, could definitely be, i— years, a two year degree, could definitely be, i think, done a tve— definitely be, i think, done a tve teae— definitely be, i think, done a tve veae a— definitely be, i think, done a two years, a two _ definitely be, i think, done a two years, a two year degree, eeutt— two years, a two year degree, eeutt te— two years, a two year degree, could be could— two years, a two year degree, could be could be— two years, a two year degree, could be could be cheaper and more productive.— could be could be cheaper and more productive. use i i more productive. use i think. i tntnt— more productive. use i think. i tntnt-a— more productive. use i think. i think-a maturing- more productive. use i think. i think a maturing and think there's a maturing and tnene-e— think there's a maturing and tnete-e a— think there's a maturing and there's a learning and i don't tttnt— there's a learning and i don't tntnt.-tnevv.— there's a learning and i don't think, know, people don't think, you know, people don't ent— think, you know, people don't ent up— think, you know, people don't ent up tetnt— think, you know, people don't end up doing the— think, you know, people don't end up doing the filling the mat— end up doing the filling the ma tnev— end up doing the filling the that they did— end up doing the filling the that they did the degree and i etuttet— that they did the degree and i studied seventh— that they did the degree and i studied seventh century irish at untvenettv— studied seventh century irish at untvenettv-t— studied seventh century irish at university i became tony university and i became tony etatt-e— university and i became tony blair's political— university and i became tony blair's political secretary. so eemetmee— sometimes there's a big disconnect— sometimes there's a big disconnect what sometimes there's a big- disconnect-what you disconnect between what you etutv— disconnect between what you etutv-vnat— disconnect between what you etntv-vvnat vet- disconnect between what you study what you up disconnect between what you - study-what you-up doing. study and what you end up doing. and study and what you end up doing. ant tat-e— study and what you end up doing. ant tet-e tatt— study and what you end up doing. and let's talk. so— study and what you end up doing. and let's talk. so you— study and what you end up doing. and let's talk. so you studied- and let's talk. so you studied irish and you wrote double dutch. oh, well, let's let's aetuattv— dutch. oh, well, let's let's actually funnily— j.2 oh, well, let's let's actually funnily enough, j.2.“ oh, well, let's let's actually funnily enough, i t 2 oh, well, let's let's actually funnily enough, i did a tntnt— actually funnily enough, i did a third sentence— actually funnily enough, i did a third sentence there. 2 third sentence there. it was one of third sentence there. it was one et-et— third sentence there. it was one et-tt tte— third sentence there. it was one of of the reasons , but one of one of the reasons, but one of one of the reasons, but one of the reasons i'm sceptical about the need for so many kids to university. is that to go to university. is that funny? i think— to go to university. is that funny? i think the- 2tit l. 2 2; is that funny? i think the blair government— funny? i think the blair government did tremendous things funny? i think the blair go schoolsit did tremendous things funny? i think the blair go schools andi tremendous things funny? i think the blair go schools and itremendous things funny? i think the blair go schools and i thinkndous things funny? i think the blair go schools and i think ouris things in schools and i think our eeneete— in schools and i think our schools-better. in schools and i think our. schools- better than schools are much better than tnev— schools are much better than tnev-te— schools are much better than tnev-te ant- schools are much better than they be and people stay they used to be and people stay on they used to be and people stay en tentet— they used to be and people stay en tentet nevv— they used to be and people stay on longer now to— they used to be and people stay on longer now to i— they used to be and people stay on longer now to i mean, nobody tevee— on longer now to i mean, nobody tevee at— on longer now to i mean, nobody tevee at te— on longer now to i mean, nobody leaves at 16, hence— on longer now to i mean, nobody leaves at 16, hence out leaves at 16, hence they're out on leaves at 16, hence they're out en—eavtnt-

leaves at 16, hence they're out en—eavtnt tte- leaves at 16, hence they're out on_saying it's not. on the streets saying it's not met— on the streets saying it's not met ateut— on the streets saying it's not just about that's— on the streets saying it's not just about that's not that's not the just about that's not that's not tte-teae. — just about that's not that's not the -years. that's- just about that's not that's not the years. just about that's not that's not. the -years. that's been the the blair years. that's been the tory there. let's tory years there. well, let's talk starmer then, shall talk about starmer then, shall we? because he's getting bit we? because he's getting a bit of we? because he's getting a bit et entttetem — 7 because he's getting a bit of criticism basically for flip ttep—veu- of criticism basically for flip| ttep—veu tntnt of criticism basically for flip - flop—you think it's flop u—turning do you think it's tuettttet— flop u—turning do you think it's metmee—tte- flop u—turning do you think it's justified,_the way. justified, ed? well, the way this policy was raised, corporation tax and we're going to to business tax a bit to come on to business tax a bit later, raise corporation tax and spend money on getting rid spend that money on getting rid of university fees. now that was a mad corbynite policy, but it did have a logic to it that corporation tax has been raised by rishi and it's being used to pay by rishi and it's being used to pay down the debt. so the tax has gone. we can't raise the corporation tax so he's been quite pragmatic. like if we don't have the tax, we can't do that. we'll have to do something different. and i think they're looking system. looking for a different system. increased, no, no. so increased, though no, no. so rishi the raising. rishi has done the tax raising. jeremy corbyn wants to do, right? so the tax have right? so the tax rates have been done , i think. starmer's been done, i think. starmer's right. starmer's— been done, i think. starmer's right. starmer's right- 2 2 starmer's right. starmer's right to cancel tnte— right. starmer's right to cancel tnte pettev. — right. starmer's right to cancel tnte pettev. tt— right. starmer's right to cancel this policy. it was— right. starmer's right to cancel this policy. it was it was never a teet— this policy. it was it was never a teet petty.— this policy. it was it was never a teet pettev. tt— this policy. it was it was never a good policy. it was never going— a good policy. it was never going te— a good policy. it was never going te te— a good policy. it was never going to be possible economically to give everyone a tee— economically to give everyone a tee untvetettv. — economically to give everyone a free university. it's— economically to give everyone a free university. 2 5“ free university. it's not an equitable. it just- free university. 2 5“ 2.2. it just wasn't going

equitable. it just wasn't going to equitable. it just wasn't going te vent.— equitable. it just wasn't going te vent. se— equitable. it just wasn't going te vent. se. t— equitable. it just wasn't going to work. so, i mean,- ti2. it just wasn't going to work. so, i mean, this nappene— to work. so, i mean, this happens with— to work. so, i mean, this happens with opposition eppeettten— happens with opposition opposition leaders come into eentaet— opposition leaders come into contact-reality- opposition leaders come into contact reality the contact with reality arnie the tee— contact with reality arnie the closer—possiblej closer they get to a possible pevven— closer they get to a possible. power—throwing power and they start throwing etutt— power and they start throwing ette-teete— power and they start throwing stuff- books and - power and they start throwing stuff books and george stuff off the books and george eeteme—tavl stuff off the books and george osborne _ day ini stuff off the books and georgei osborne—day in a osborne said the other day in a vveetmtneten— osborne said the other day in a westminster committee , oh, i westminster committee, oh, i eat— westminster committee, oh, i eatt ene— westminster committee, oh, i said one thing— westminster committee, oh, i said one thing in— westminster committee, oh, i said one thing in opposition. ant— said one thing in opposition. ant ae— said one thing in opposition. ant ae eeen— said one thing in opposition. and as soon as— said one thing in opposition. and as soon as i— said one thing in opposition. and as soon as i got into power i and as soon as i got into power t tt— and as soon as i got into power i did something— and as soon as i got into power i did something-i- and as soon as i got into power i did something i mean, i did something else. i mean, tnev— i did something else. i mean, mev-te— i did something else. i mean, tnevite tt. — i did something else. i mean, they.do it. i've- i did something else. i mean, they-do it. i've got- i did something else. i mean, they do it. 2tit 22 they all do it. i've got a good memory tonight. i know memory tonight. i don't know what's happening. obviously what's happening. i've obviously had can you talk had my coffee, but can you talk about equitable taxes and all the it? i remember you the rest of it? i remember you on program not long ago on my program not that long ago saying you've grafted, saying that if you've grafted, you've now you've bought a house and now you've bought a house and now you've a spare bedroom in you've got a spare bedroom in your privately owned property, everybody, you reckon that you should i was then should tax that? i was then look, you've got a great memory, but things but i say memorable things clearly. well, you see, a clearly. well, you see, say a vent— clearly. well, you see, say a word associated _ clearly. well, you see, say a word associated to- 21; well, you see, say a word associated to that memorable— word associated to that memorable charge. v425: word associated to that- memorable charge. yes, we do. we te— memorable charge. yes, we do. we te meet— memorable charge. yes, we do. we do need more— memorable charge. v425: 2tit we do need more taxation on on the we do need more taxation on on tne neamet— we do need more taxation on on the unearned wealth in britain ant— the unearned wealth in britain ant a— the unearned wealth in britain and a bedroom— the unearned wealth in britain and a bedroom tax for the pntvate— and a bedroom tax for the private sector. - and a bedroom tax for the private sector. 2 and a bedroom tax for the- private sector. would we want to do he wanted to tax the bedrooms of a private property. one of life's natural one of life's natural shoplifters . he life's natural shoplifters. he wante— life's natural shoplifters. he vante te— life's natural shoplifters. he vante te 90—

life's natural shoplifters. he wants to go round taking money out wants to go round taking money eut et— wants to go round taking money ent et peepte. — wants to go round taking money ent et peepte. t— wants to go round taking money out of people. i think they eneptttten — out of people. i think they shoplifter. they they they get eneutn — shoplifter. they they they get eneutn et— shoplifter. they they they get enough of our— shoplifter. they they they get enough of our money and i want to enough of our money and i want te keep— enough of our money and i want te teep mee— enough of our money and i want te teep et— enough of our money and i want to keep more of it— enough of our money and i want to keep more of it myself. thank vet.— to keep more of it myself. thank vet. t— to keep more of it myself. thank vet. t tntnt— to keep more of it myself. thank vet. t tntnt t— to keep more of it myself. thank you. i think i can— to keep more of it myself. thank you. i think i can spend it tetten— you. i think i can spend it tettet mv— you. i think i can spend it better my money than some idiot mtntetet— better my money than some idiot mtnteten et— better my money than some idiot minister of the— better my money than some idiot minister of the government. tematt— minister of the government. tematt-att— minister of the government. bernard all education bernard says all education eneutt— bernard says all education eneutt te— bernard says all education should be free— bernard says all education should be free and if our taxes can subsidise— should be free and if our taxes can subsidise civil— should be free and if our taxes can subsidise civil servants penetene— can subsidise civil servants penetene tnen— can subsidise civil servants pensions, then they can eutetttee— pensions, then they can subsidise kids education. subsidise our kids education. why— subsidise our kids education. why veutt— subsidise our kids education. why vpatt ven— subsidise our kids education. why would you want,- subsidise our kids education. why would you want, i- subsidise our kids education. why would you want, i don't know your working class lad that's left school for as young as he could got into an could and got into an apprenticeship. why should he have fund the tuition fees of have to fund the tuition fees of someone wants to do? someone that wants to do? i don't random don't know, whatever random subject at the university. well, i can't be honest. i nearly said theology. that's because of your story that your child was sitting there and decided to story that your child was sittrude.|ere and decided to story that your child was sitt rude. so and decided to story that your child was sittrude. so land decided to story that your child was sitt rude. so i started ded to story that your child was sitt rude. so i started tod to story that your child was sitt rude. so i started to say to story that your child was sittrude. so i started to say and be rude. so i started to say and they started to say random. most unlikely. making it personal doesn't want to be rude, david says , i do rude, david. david says, i do not believe university fees should be free. princess coming out should be free. princess coming eutltt— should be free. princess coming eutltt nae— should be free. princess coming outlit was free, _ should be free. princess coming outlit was free, there - 2 7222 princess coming out it was free, there would out if it was free, there would be out if it was free, there would te a— out if it was free, there would te a tee — out if it was free, there would te a tee ten— out if it was free, there would be a free for all— out if it was free, there would be a free for all and we simply eeuttn-t— be a free for all and we simply couldn't afford— be a free for all and we simply couldn't afford it— be a free for all and we simply couldn't afford it . j5 2 couldn't afford it. david says having to pay fees makes people perhaps consider or not

perhaps consider whether or not university for them. university is right for them. what try and is what i would try and do is create some form of scheme so that got the that when you've got the professions need in our professions that we need in our society, i don't know your doctors, you nurses, whatever , i doctors, you nurses, whatever, i would actually have some kind of scheme retaining that scheme where i'm retaining that talent in the as it is and talent in the nhs as it is and doing some kind of conditional write off of their debts. i think that's right. i think i think that's right. i think i think for, for— 2“ ithinki think for, for professions 22“. i think i think for, for professions like mat.— think for, for professions like mat-vet— think for, for professions like that,-you should- think for, for professions like that, you should have deal that, you you should have a deal for that, you you should have a deal tee matte— that, you you should have a deal for maths teachers,— that, you you should have a deal for maths teachers, you should say— for maths teachers, you should eav tt— for maths teachers, you should eav tt ybuv — for maths teachers, you should eav tt youv tt— for maths teachers, you should eav tt youv tt-tt— for maths teachers, you should say if you, if if you're a say if you, if you, if you're a matte— say if you, if you, if you're a maths teacher— say if you, if you, if you're a maths teacher for- say if you, if you, if you're a maths teacher for a number of veae— maths teacher for a number of vee vte-tt— maths teacher for a number of years, we'll write _ maths teacher for a number of years, we'll write we'll write tenn— years, we'll write we'll write teen-tett— years, we'll write we'll write down - debt over- years, we'll write we'll write down - debt over a - years, we'll write we'll write down debt over a year. yeah. down the debt over a year. yeah. vett— down the debt over a year. yeah. vet-ven— down the debt over a year. yeah. vet-vte 90-— down the debt over a year. yeah. well-you go. that's- down the debt over a year. yeah. well-you go. that's a- well there you go. that's a thought isn't spending thought isn't it? spending taxpayers of it on taxpayers money more of it on university we university fees. how do we get all this taxpayer then all this taxpayer cash then another idea that's been floating around windfall tax ipp have profits have announced their profits today. up in today. it's got people up in arms that they pay arms demanding that they pay more. how much more? see you .

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britain is watching. on hello mete.— britain is watching. on hello there. welcome— britain is watching. on hello there. welcome back to dewbs& co with me michelle dewberry lviv outside of buckingham palace this evening . joining me until this evening. joining me until 7:00 tonight. my panel. this evening. joining me until 7:00 tonight. my panel . quentin 7:00 tonight. my panel. quentin letts is a political sketchwriter for the times 7:00. we're to here us and john mcternan . you- we're to here us and john mcternan . v/tit. 2 we're to here us and john- mcternan . you should have known, mcternan. you should have known, you should have charged double political strategist and former adviser to tony blair. time flies . he does when you're flies. he does when you're having doesn't it? i'll having fun, doesn't it? i'll tell you what else flies as well. nerves. the wind tell you what else flies as wel|just nerves. the wind tell you what else flies as wel|just picked rves. the wind tell you what else flies as wel|just picked up s. the wind tell you what else flies as wel|just picked up everybodyi tell you what else flies as wel|just picked up everybody and has just picked up everybody and off they've gone . how does off they've gone. how does scotland uni and scotland pay for free uni and prescriptions? michelle they were still part of the uk the last time i looked that says gary. matt says, my daughter is doing a degree in law and a course is an absolute joke. it weren't, he says. prepare her for career going forward. for her career going forward. thomas my experience of people with degrees in the workplace is that the majority of them don't want their dirty. want to get their hands dirty. they office they only want to do office jobs, he says, so that they can

delegate work to people because they find themselves superior. don't . that's a view. don't know. that's a view. certainly is, sir. scotland. scotland. scotland pays for tetten— scotland. scotland pays for tuition fees— scotland. scotland pays for tuition fees by— scotland. scotland pays for tuition fees by not letting seettten— tuition fees by not letting scottish kids— tuition fees by not letting scottish kids who've got the atttttv— scottish kids who've got the atttttv ge — scottish kids who've got the atttttv ge te— scottish kids who've got the ability go to university. they natten— ability go to university. they tatten tte— ability go to university. they ration the places and sell ptaeee— ration the places and sell ptaeee te— ration the places and sell places to english students who tnev— places to english students who tnev mate — places to english students who tnev mate pav— places to english students who they make pay english fees so tnev— they make pay english fees so tnev mn— they make pay english fees so tnev tnem— they make pay english fees so they run them as— they make pay english fees so they run them as a profit. well tnat— they run them as a profit. well tnat tett— they run them as a profit. well tnat tett vet— they run them as a profit. well that told you gary,— they run them as a profit. well that told you gary, didn't it? ttttt. — that told you gary, didn't it? ttgtt. tat-e— that told you gary, didn't it? right. let's talk— that told you gary, didn't it? right. let's talk about- that told you gary, didn't it? right. let's talk about profits then, shall moving on then, shall we? moving on to a different sector, their different sector, bp, their profits apparently reached profits have apparently reached £4 quarter one this £4 billion in quarter one this yeah £4 billion in quarter one this year. i'll tell you, it's got him moaning and groaning already. john mcternan of course you know it by now, don't you? people it's hideous, people will say it's hideous, but go in circles but they'll go round in circles . we want harsher penalties , . we want harsher penalties, more windfall tax . john mcternan more windfall tax. john mcternan we'll see you. do you think that we have to charge these companies even more when you have windfall profit? i think a windfall tax is— have windfall profit? i think a windfall tax is fair. _ have windfall profit? i think a windfall tax is fair. bp- “25.. .7’ i think a windfall tax is fair. bp haven't tene— windfall tax is fair. bp haven't tene anvtntnt— windfall tax is fair. bp haven't done anything to— windfall tax is fair. bp haven't done anything to increase the meta— done anything to increase the their productivity, to increase vvnat— their productivity, to increase vnat tnev-ve— their productivity, to increase what they've the _ their productivity, to increase what they've the resources tnev-ve — what they've the resources they've found _ what they've the resources they've found .— what they've the resources they've found . they've just been they've found. they've just been eetttnt— they've found. they've just been eetttnt ett— they've found. they've just been selling oil and— they've found. they've just been selling oil and gas— they've found. they've just been

selling oil and gas during a penet— selling oil and gas during a pentet et— selling oil and gas during a pentet et a— selling oil and gas during a period of a global crisis . it's period of a global crisis. it's a war in europe— period of a global crisis. it's a war in europe that has shifted the a war in europe that has shifted tne market— a war in europe that has shifted the market price.— a war in europe that has shifted the market price. do you want tnem — the market price. do you want tnem te— the market price. do you want tnem te pav— the market price. do you want them to pay, john? well more, vean. — them to pay, john? well more, vean. tut— them to pay, john? well more, yeah. but don't— them to pay, john? well more, yeah. but don't just tell me ant— yeah. but don't just tell me more and watch— yeah. but don't just tell me more and watch what% do you tntnt— more and watch what% do you tntnt te— more and watch what% do you tntnt te tatn— more and watch what% do you think is fair and— more and watch what% do you think is fair and equitable on tneee— think is fair and equitable on tneee tt— think is fair and equitable on these uk profits— think is fair and equitable on these uk profits . i would these uk profits. i would i went— these uk profits. i would i veutt tav— these uk profits. i would i would tax them until the pips teeee te— would tax them until the pips squeeze. no, you— would tax them until the pips squeeze. no, you wouldn't take it squeeze. no, you wouldn't take tt up— squeeze. no, you wouldn't take tt up te— squeeze. no, you wouldn't take tt up te so. — squeeze. no, you wouldn't take tt up te to. se— squeeze. no, you wouldn't take it up to 90. so you— squeeze. no, you wouldn't take it up to 90. so you would ename. — it up to 90. so you would enange. st— it up to 90. so you would charge. so you- it up to 90. so you would charge. so you think that a company is going to be incentivised to denis healey work for 10% their this is excess profits they're making. so you're taxing the excess ptettte. — so you're taxing the excess pnettte. ant — so you're taxing the excess profits. and what- so you're taxing the excess profits. ' “2 2 profits. and what about when they make loans? they they make etettt— they make loans? they they make etettt. tnev— they make loans? they they make credit. they make— they make loans? they they make credit. they make normal- credit. they make normal ptettte— credit. they make normal pnettte. tnev— credit. they make normal profits. they get loads of they get tnev— profits. they get loads of they get tnev get— profits. they get loads of they get they get loads of tax relief agatnet— get they get loads of tax relief agatnet tnett— get they get loads of tax relief against their losses. get against their losses. they get teete— against their losses. they get loads-relief— against their losses. they get loads relief against the loads of tax relief against the eeete— loads of tax relief against the eeete et— loads of tax relief against the costs of decommissioning the ntge— costs of decommissioning the ntge-eut— costs of decommissioning the ntge-eut-tenni rigs that are out in the north sea. — rigs that are out in the north sea. incentives— rigs that are out in the north sea. incentives investment, aent— sea. incentives investment,i anen-t—tt sea. incentives investment,- aten-t—ttvet aren't you, though, john? if you etatt— aren't you, though, john? if you etatt eavtng— aren't you, though, john? if you etatt eavtng te— aren't you, though, john? if you start saying to -do - aren't you, though, john? if you start saying to do you start saying to people, do you know you can make 10% of know what, you can make 10% of your profit, you keep 10% of your profit, you can keep 10% of your profit, you can keep 10% of your profit. do you know what to i do? incentivise investment tetave— today? this morning i was teettng— today? this morning i was teettng-et—

today? this morning i was looking of office today? this morning i was- looking-of-office window looking out of my office window ant— looking out of my office window and-southwark_ looking out of my office window and southwark bridge road and on southwark bridge road i teet— and on southwark bridge road i saw some just-oil- saw some just stop oil demonstrators walking slowly up the -southwark- the up across southwark bridge. teat—tettevei yeah and that's what i believe. i yeah and that's what i believe. t tetteve— yeah and that's what i believe. t tetteve ve— yeah and that's what i believe. i believe we shouldn't be incentivising_ i believe we shouldn't be incentivising oil production. we eneutt— incentivising oil production. wei should—leaving should be incentivising, leaving oil should be incentivising, leaving ett ant— should be incentivising, leaving ett ant gae— should be incentivising, leaving oil and gas-the— should be incentivising, leaving oil and gas the well, oil and gas in the ground. well, i oil and gas in the ground. well, t-ve— oil and gas in the ground. well, t-ve eneutt— oil and gas in the ground. well, i-we should be- i think we should be incentivising i think we should be- incentivising-policing, i think we should be- incentivisingto-policing, i think we should be incentivisingto get policing, i think we should be incentivisingto get them:ing, i think we should be incentivisingto get them pillocks by the way, to get them pillocks off by the way, to get them pillocks ett-ee— by the way, to get them pillocks ett-ee tnat— by the way, to get them pillocks off so that everyone off the roads so that everyone etee— off the roads so that everyone etee-ge— off the roads so that everyone etee-ge ateut— off the roads so that everyone else go about their else can go about their daily teneee — else can go about their daily business. iyes, _ else can go about their daily business. v425 5“; business. yes, but anyway, technical term. yeah . business. yes, but anyway, technical term. yeah. yes, business. yes, but anyway, technical term. yeah . yes, very technical term. yeah. yes, very good. quincy what do you make of the tax? surprised the windfall tax? i'm surprised that more creative that bp don't have more creative accountants they haven't accountants and they haven't managed a of writing managed to find a way of writing off these surpluses . but off these these surpluses. but as an investment, i but as an investment, i suspect that ntgnet— as an investment, i suspect that ntgnet tavee— as an investment, i suspect that higher taxes always get passed on higher taxes always get passed en te— higher taxes always get passed en te tne— higher taxes always get passed on to the motorists or to the to tne— on to the motorists or to the to the consumers— on to the motorists or to the to the consumers in— on to the motorists or to the to the consumers in the long run, i ten-t— the consumers in the long run, i ten-t vant— the consumers in the long run, i ten-t vant te— the consumers in the long run, i ten-t vant te pav— the consumers in the long run, i don't want to pay more for my pettet— don't want to pay more for my pettet ant— don't want to pay more for my petnet ant ee— don't want to pay more for my petrol and so i— don't want to pay more for my petrol and so i don't think tnat-e— petrol and so i don't think tnat-e getng— petrol and so i don't think that's going to— petrol and so i don't think that's going to work. also so tneee— that's going to work. also so these profits— that's going to work. also so these profits are— that's going to work. also so these profits are on last year. i these profits are on last year. t euepeet— these profits are on last year. i suspect next— these profits are on last year. i suspect next year's profits may— i suspect next year's profits mav te— i suspect next year's profits mav te a— i suspect next year's profits mav te a tet— i suspect next year's profits may be a lot lower and i just i ten-t— may be a lot lower and i just i don't necessarily— may be a lot lower and i just i don't necessarily want more tavatten— don't necessarily want more tavatten. t— don't necessarily want more taxation. i just— don't necessarily want more taxation. i just to me taxation is taxation. i just to me taxation te a— taxation. i just to me taxation is a nuisance and— taxation. i just to me taxation is a nuisance and i'd like to teee— is a nuisance and i'd like to teee et— is a nuisance and i'd like to see less of it— is a nuisance and i'd like to see less of it rather than more of see less of it rather than more et tt— see less of it rather than more et t. t— see less of it rather than more et t. t tntnt— see less of it rather than more

of it. i think if— see less of it rather than more of it. i think if you— see less of it rather than more of it. i think if you always een— of it. i think if you always eett et— of it. i think if you always sort of beating— of it. i think if you always sort of beating up the companies in sort of beating up the companies tn tne— sort of beating up the companies tn tne ent.— sort of beating up the companies in the end, the— sort of beating up the companies in the end, the companies will etep— in the end, the companies will etep eneattng— in the end, the companies will stop creating, creating jobs and emptevtng— stop creating, creating jobs and employing people and do you not vvemv—veu-ve- employing people and do you not vvennv—vtn-ve geti worry about that? so you've got in you've spent 75% in your world, you've spent 75% of university, so of people to university, so they've come with a load they've all come out with a load of and all these of debt and all these qualifications. but if the companies are not expanding , companies are not expanding, employing people, employing more young people, there's going to all there's pointless going to all these degrees . well, fossil these degrees. well, fossil fuels are the fuels of the past , but they're causing the problems of the present. we've still got to have them- problems of the present. we've still got to have them for- we've still got to have them for a bit for still got to have them for a bit tee tne— still got to have them for a bit for the transition— still got to have them for a bit for the transition period we nave.— for the transition period we nave. tut— for the transition period we nave. tut ve— for the transition period we have, but we should we should be mevtng— have, but we should we should be mevtng taetet— have, but we should we should be moving faster to— have, but we should we should be moving faster to transition out . vte— moving faster to transition out . vte etentt— moving faster to transition out . we should have— moving faster to transition out . we should have we- moving faster to transition out . we should have we were talking in the break about we need more nuclear, nuclear power stations. we do need a different energy mix . and i think, you know, mix. and i think, you know, there's lots of good jobs, good quality jobs from construction through to running nuclear. it takes to develop, to create takes time to develop, to create ant—et— takes time to develop, to create ant—et tt- takes time to develop, to create ant—et t. tt- and all the rest of it. it teeen-t— and all the rest of it. it- doesn't-tomorrow. so doesn't happen tomorrow. so ttete— doesn't happen tomorrow. so mete—ne- doesn't happen tomorrow. so there—no, there- doesn't happen tomorrow. sol there—no, there will there will. yeah, no, there will be a transition. but we but we shouldn't sentimental about shouldn't be sentimental about the they're the energy companies. they're not us. not sentimental about us. they're sentimental when they're not sentimental when

they raise the price at the pump. they're sentimental they raise the price at the pumpthey y're sentimental they raise the price at the pumpthey leave sentimental they raise the price at the pumpthey leave an entimental they raise the price at the pumpthey leave an environmental when they leave an environmental mess behind them in the different countries they go to. so what about all the people that have got their pensions invested places? so just for invested in places? so just for tnanepanenev— invested in places? so just for transparency, i've— invested in places? so just for transparency, i've got- 2 2 27 so just for transparency, i've got some enee— transparency, i've got some enatee—tn- transparency, i've got some enaee— bp-i transparency, i've got some sharezyou-in bp.| transparency, i've got some sharezyou be in bp. transparency, i've got some sharezyou be doing p. transparency, i've got some sharezyou be doing well well, you must be doing well tten— well, you must be doing well tnen. tve— well, you must be doing well then. i've done— well, you must be doing well then. i've done all right. aetuattv— then. i've done all right. actually, you— then. i've done all right. actually, you do? then. i've done all right.- actually, you do?-recently. actually, you do? well recently. vee. — actually, you do? well recently. vee. _beforel yes. i don't have many. before you— yes. i don't have many. before vet att— yes. i don't have many. before ven att etan— yes. i don't have many. before you all start trying to ask him a-ant— you all start trying to ask him a-ant-t— you all start trying to ask him a-ant-t ean- you all start trying to ask him a-and .i can you i a single. and can i can you tee— a single. and can i can you become-back- a single. and can i can you become-back at- a single. and can i can you become back at me. we're not become the back at me. we're not tatttng— become the back at me. we're not tatttng-tevet— become the back at me. we're not talking-level of— become the back at me. we're not talking level of shares. talking that level of shares. mete—ange- talking that level of shares. there—angle forl there is a political angle for this in that the windfall tax is the left's bernie, the bolt's only they producing the left's bernie, the bolt's only it's they producing the left's bernie, the bolt's only it's their ey producing the left's bernie, the bolt's only it's their only producing the left's bernie, the bolt's only it's their only policy ducing the left's bernie, the bolt's only it's their only policy for ing this. it's their only policy for sorting out all the problems and all the spending problems. they all the spending problems. they all say, oh, we're going to do this spent it this windfall tax. they spent it hundreds and so that is hundreds of times and so that is the political nature of the political sort of nature of this policy. and the political sort of nature of this policy . and then it's this policy. and then it's ateptet— this policy. and then it's ateptet by— this policy. and then it's adopted by the- 2; and then it's adopted by the tory 2.; and then it's adopted by the tory government. teat— adopted by the tory government. teat-vae— adopted by the tory government. teat-nae tte— adopted by the tory government. yeah-was, it's not- adopted by the tory government. yeah was, it's not really yeah as it was, it's not really a conservative— yeah as it was, it's not really a conservative government, is tte — a conservative government, is tte ant— a conservative government, is tte ant tn— a conservative government, is it? and in case— a conservative government, is it? and in case you're- it? and in case you're wondering, by way, do wondering, by the way, what do these now? i think these people pay now? i think it's about 75% now on these kind of profits. so that's what we're talking at moment. so talking about at the moment. so they pay heightened they do already pay a heightened bev go up to

bev turner wants it to go up to 98, 98. now, i said 90, but tnat-e— 98, 98. now, i said 90, but tnat-e pnettv— 98 98 now, i said 90, but that's pretty decent. 93 93 now, i said 90, but that's pretty decent. 22 2tit that's pretty decent. i could go to that's pretty decent. i could go te ss— that's pretty decent. i could go te es en— that's pretty decent. i could go to 98 on excess profits, but they they their normal they they keep their normal profits. the normal profits don't the dividends, normal don't pay the dividends, normal profits and profits in the excess profit and a profit. is there a normal profit. is there a windfall? it's an unexpected, unplanned created by unplanned definition created by external accounting. so let me ask then. so if you're ask you this then. so if you're in ask you this then. so if you're tn tav— ask you this then. so if you're tn tav et— ask you this then. so if you're in favour of you've— ask you this then. so if you're in favour of you've got- so if you're in favour of you've got this vtnttatt— in favour of you've got this windfall unexpected, unplanned in favour of you've got this windfa sotnexpected, unplanned in favour of you've got this windfa so therefore d, unplanned in favour of you've got this windfa so therefore take planned in favour of you've got this windfa so therefore take it.inned in favour of you've got this windfa so therefore take it. ified boost, so therefore take it. if tnene— boost, so therefore take it. if tnene-tne— boost, so therefore take it. if there .the reverse - boost, so therefore take it. if there the reverse that. there was the reverse of that. so there was the reverse of that. se tnene — there was the reverse of that. se tnene .an — there was the reverse of that. so there an unexpected and so there was an unexpected and unptannet— so there was an unexpected and unplanned decline— so there was an unexpected and unplanned decline which led to teeee— unplanned decline which led to losses, would— unplanned decline which led to losses, would you— unplanned decline which led to losses, would you follow your tneenv— losses, would you follow your own theory then _ losses, would you follow your own theory then and compensate tneee— own theory then and compensate those companies? _ own theory then and compensate those companies? 2“ . those companies? people don't pay those companies? people don't pay tax on losses. that's why quentin was right. why are there not why are why why are they saying why? they're not clever accountants around these big oil companies? if things have atteetet— companies? if things have affected-sheet. companies? if things havei affected-sheet to companies? if things have- affected-sheet to the affected a balance sheet to the negattve— affected a balance sheet to the negattve tnat— affected a balance sheet to the negative that they had no eentnet— negative that they had no control over. _ negative that they had no control over. i.e, things control over. so i.e, things tte— control over. so i.e, things like-pandemic. control over. so i.e, things- like-pandemic where like the covid pandemic where eveenenv— like the covid pandemic where. evenvene—enet everyone and everything was shut tenn— everyone and everything was shut tevnitattet— everyone and everything was shut down,.bailed out— everyone and everything was shut down, bailed out lots of down, we bailed out lots of pnvate— down, we bailed out lots of private enterprises. jtit private enterprises. do you not tttnt— private enterprises. do you not think they should be stepping up and compensating those losses? we to get money out of we have to get money out of everywhere we can to invest in

the health service, to invest in those, to invest in schools, to actually alleviate the energy and fuel poverty that's real in the country at the moment. and for bp to have this level of profit, this obscene level of profit, this obscene level of profit at a time when there are people who can't afford to put on their heating, the on their their heating, by the way, only about 10% of bp profits comes from uk, by profits comes from the uk, by the way. often what people do is tnev-tt— the way. often what people do is tnev-tt tate— often what people do is they'lltake organisation's they'll take an organisation's gtetat—tnen- they'll take an organisation's global then start global profits and then start tatttng— global profits and then start talking about— global profits and then start talking about it— global profits and then start talking about it as though it's nete— talking about it as though it's neteltnte— talking about it as though it's here-this country- talking about it as though it's here this country and it's here in this country and it's net. — here in this country and it's net. mev-tt— here in this country and it's not. they'll just- here in this country and it's not. “ti; .._.5. here in this country and it's not. “ti; .. 2 not. they'll just move their staff elsewhere. they'll move not. they'll just move their staff operation. they'll move not. they'll just move their staff operation. differentnove not. they'll just move their staff operation. different part their operation. different part of you not worry of the world, do you not worry about john? well, they've about that, john? well, they've tene — about that, john? well, they've tene a— about that, john? well, they've tene a taet— about that, john? well, they've done a back and— about that, john? well, they've done a back and forth- “7 well, they've done a back and forth between tene— done a back and forth between here .amsterdam _ done a back and forth between here amsterdam and back here in amsterdam and their back in here in amsterdam and their back tn tne— here in amsterdam and their back tn tne tt. — here in amsterdam and their back tn tne tt. ton.— here in amsterdam and their back in the uk. now, i— here in amsterdam and their back in the uk. now, i think- here in amsterdam and their back in the uk. vwitvttv in the uk. now, i think people headquartered themselves in countries reasons. countries for lots of reasons. if look back, the way, in if you look back, by the way, in m,— if you look back, by the way, in zen-peneten— if you look back, by the way, in 2021, pension funds , which is 2021, uk pension funds, which is vvnat— 2021, uk pension funds, which is vnat t— 2021, uk pension funds, which is vnat t-tatttng— what i was talking about a mtntte— what i was talking about a mtntte age.— what i was talking about a minute ago, they had apparently what i was talking about a minu billion they had apparently what i was talking about a minubillion invested apparently what i was talking about a minubillion invested a|fossilttly £128 billion invested in fossil teet— £128 billion invested in fossil fuel companies,— £128 billion invested in fossil fuel companies, equivalent to atept— fuel companies, equivalent to ateut estee— fuel companies, equivalent to about £2,000 per— fuel companies, equivalent to about £2,000 per person . about £2,000 per person. but ttev-te— about £2,000 per person. but ttev-te getttng— about £2,000 per person. but they're getting out. they're getting out. they're getting out

of fossil fuel companies because yeah, i know. but the point is, vnen— yeah, i know. but the point is, vvnen veve— yeah, i know. but the point is, vvnen veve get— yeah, i know. but the point is, when you've got if— ;t25“ but the point is, when you've got if you've got a peneten— when you've got if you've got a peneten tent— when you've got if you've got a pension fund you— when you've got if you've got a pension fund you want and need tnat— pension fund you want and need tnat peneten— pension fund you want and need that pension fund— pension fund you want and need that pension fund to grow over ttme. — that pension fund to grow over time. _battering- time. if you start battering peepte-e— time. if you start battering people's profits, dividends, all the people's profits, dividends, all tte-et— people's profits, dividends, all tte-et tt— people's profits, dividends, all tte-et ttla— people's profits, dividends, all the-of itla-of- the rest of it in a range of eetee— the rest of it in a range of eeetene-veu- the rest of it in a range of sectors-you can. the rest of it in a range ofi sectors-you can be the rest of it in a range of- sectors-you can be sure sectors as well, you can be sure tnat— sectors as well, you can be sure tnat tt— sectors as well, you can be sure tnat tn vvttt— sectors as well, you can be sure that bp will take— sectors as well, you can be sure that bp will take a— sectors as well, you can be sure that bp will take a big stand at the that bp will take a big stand at tne tateun— that bp will take a big stand at the labour party— that bp will take a big stand at the labour party conference this auunnnt — the labour party conference this auunnnt vett— the labour party conference this autumn. well well, _ the labour party conference this autumn. 2 autumn. well well, actually, you say a windfall say it'll be it'll be a windfall for labour party. i say for the labour party. i say that. and before- for the labour party. i say that. and before i- for the labour party. i say that. and before i go- i say that. and before i go to break, you— that. and before i go to break, you mentioned— that. and before i go to break, you mentioned just stop oil, by the you mentioned just stop oil, by tte-ant— you mentioned just stop oil, by tte-ant tt— you mentioned just stop oil, by the-and it came- you mentioned just stop oil, by the and it came over the way, and it came out over tne— the way, and it came out over tne veetent— the way, and it came out over the weekend,-it?- the way, and it came out over the weekend, it? the huge the weekend, didn't it? the huge sum:— the weekend, didn't it? the huge sum, was.dale?_ the weekend, didn't it? the huge sum, was dale? vince i think sum, was it dale? vince i think one -founders,- sum, was it dale? vince i think one-founders, one- sum, was it dale? vince i think one founders, one of the one of the founders, one of the teuntete— one of the founders, one of the teuntete tve— one of the founders, one of the founders, i've-him - one of the founders, one of the founders, i've him worse founders, i've called him worse tnan— founders, i've called him worse tnan-t— founders, i've called him worse tnan-t ean— founders, i've called him worse than-i can tell— founders, i've called him worse than-i can tell you. - founders, i've called him worse than i can tell you. but than that, i can tell you. but i een-t— than that, i can tell you. but i am nepeat— than that, i can tell you. but i ean-t nepeat tt— than that, i can tell you. but i can't repeat it because it's tea ttme. — can't repeat it because it's tea ttme. .ttte— can't repeat it because it's tea time. kids watching. but time. the kids watching. but aent— time. the kids watching. but wasn't-vince- time. the kids watching. but. wasn't-vince-way, wasn't it dale vince by the way, tnat— wasn't it dale vince by the way, tnat vae— wasn't it dale vince by the way, that was shown— wasn't it dale vince by the way, that was shown as— wasn't it dale vince by the way, that was shown as investing gutte— that was shown as investing tune-tn— that was shown as investing gutte-tn tne— that was shown as investing quite in the labour. was quite a lot in the labour. was it quite a lot in the labour. was tt-stanmete— quite a lot in the labour. was it starmer? angela rayner it keir starmer? angela rayner tttn-t—eut- it keir starmer? angela rayner didn't-out this- didn't that come out this vveetente— didn't that come out this weekend? and- didn't that come out this weekend? and yeah, but they euppen— weekend? and yeah, but they support progressive, mean support progressive, i mean just upitne— support progressive, i mean just up.the progressive- up all the progressive progressive- up all the progressive - progressive - politics progressive in their politics ant— progressive in their politics. and—progressive and they support progressive pettttetane. — and they support progressive politicians. _thel politicians. why is that the ttenuptten— politicians. why is that the disruption trying politicians. why is that the. disruption -trying to disruption of people trying to go disruption of people trying to ge—tattv- disruption of people trying to tab—daily grapbvl go about their daily graph, the vettete-ttvtng- go about their daily graph, the workers, trying get to workers, people trying to get to neepttat. — workers, people trying to get to hospital. -stand- workers, people trying to get to hospital. stand chance hospital. i don't stand a chance agatnet— hospital. i don't stand a chancej agatnet—te against our muscular police, do tneve —

against our muscular police, do tneve .at— against our muscular police, do tneve .attte— against our muscular police, do they? .at the one- against our muscular police, do they? 22 they? look at the one standard they? look at the one standard they stand a chance they would not stand a chance when to face with me if when face to face with me if they tried to block my car softly, softly. right. anyway, it's softly, softly. right. anyway, tt-e— t - softly, softly. right. anyway,j tte—t it's quick break when i come tatt— it's quick break when i come taet. pteaee— it's quick break when i come back, please. i'll— it's quick break when i come back, please. i'll come back vttn— back, please. i'll come back vttn-et— back, please. i'll come back vttn-et veun- back, please. i'll come back with of your thoughts. with some of your thoughts. tneee—te- with some of your thoughts. tneee—te geti with some of your thoughts. - tneee—te get veu these two. i'm going to get you a-t-m— these two. i'm going to get you a-t-m tene— these two. i'm going to get you a-i'm done with- these two. i'm going to get you a-i'm done with it.- these two. i'm going to get you a i'm done with it. um you a room. i'm done with it. um you ten-t— a room. i'm done with it. um you ten-t meet— a room. i'm done with it. um you ten-t neetlpav— a room. i'm done with it. um you don't need pay attention don't need to pay attention teuee— don't need to pay attention teeauee—a- don't need to pay attention. because—a break because i'm going to a break unen— because i'm going to a break unen t— because i'm going to a break now. when i come back, i want veut— now. when i come back, i want veun tneugnte— now. when i come back, i want your thoughts on— now. when i come back, i want your thoughts on the topics we've discussing. but we've been discussing. but i atee— we've been discussing. but i atee-aet— we've been discussing. but i also-ask-aboutl we've been discussing. but i. also-ask-about the also want to ask you about the nevate. — also want to ask you about the nevate. tnev-ve— also want to ask you about the royals. they've told who also want to ask you about the royalfavouritee told who also want to ask you about the royalfavourite royal who also want to ask you about the royalfavourite royal member is, their favourite royal member is, vte— their favourite royal member is, vvne te— their favourite royal member is, vvne te veune— their favourite royal member is, who is yours and— their favourite royal member is, who is yours and how excited are you— who is yours and how excited are veu ateut— who is yours and how excited are veu ateut tne— who is yours and how excited are you about the coronation this veetent— you about the coronation this veetent .—

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tene— the political strategist and former adviser— the political strategist and former adviser to tony blair. tnene-e— former adviser to tony blair. tnene-e tete— former adviser to tony blair. there's lots of— former adviser to tony blair. there's lots of love for you two as there's lots of love for you two ae a tue— there's lots of love for you two as a duo tonight.— there's lots of love for you two as a duo tonight. again, i think tnat— as a duo tonight. again, i think tnat mtgnt— as a duo tonight. again, i think that might coming your that might be coming from your tamttv—net- that might be coming from your family—not sure.i family members. i'm not sure. tut— family members. i'm not sure. but—appreciating. but people are appreciating seven. .could_ but people are appreciating seven. .could well- but people are appreciating seven. it could well be, yes, people appreciating it. people are appreciating it. i've lots of tales from i've had lots of tales from you guys— i've had lots of tales from you guy5 getting— i've had lots of tales from you guy5 getting in_ i've had lots of tales from you guys getting in touch as well ateut— guys getting in touch as well ateut-.— guys getting in touch as well about-, whether. guys getting in touch as well. about-, whether. not about university, whether or not tnev-te— about university, whether or not they're -whether- about university, whether or not they're whether you they're worth it, whether you eneutt — they're worth it, whether you eneutt tuet— they're worth it, whether you should just do— they're worth it, whether you should just do apprenticeships they're worth it, whether you shotalljust do apprenticeships they're worth it, whether you shotalljust restipprenticeships they're worth it, whether you shotalljust rest of renticeships they're worth it, whether you shotalljust rest of it. ticeships they're worth it, whether you shotalljust rest of it. carole 3s and all the rest of it. carole eave— and all the rest of it. carole says my— and all the rest of it. carole saysv tav tve— and all the rest of it. carole says, my two didn't go to says, my two sons didn't go to untvenettv— says, my two sons didn't go to university, but— says, my two sons didn't go to university, but both worked university, but they both worked by-of_ university, but they both worked tv-et 2s.— university, but they both worked tv-et 2s. taen- university, but they both worked by-of 28. each of- university, but they both worked by of 28. each of them, by the age of 28. each of them, ene— by the age of 28. each of them, ene eave— by the age of 28. each of them, ene eave evn— by the age of 28. each of them, ene saysv a— by the age of 28. each of them, she says, own a property. they nave— she says, own a property. they nave a— she says, own a property. they have a car and— she says, own a property. they have a car and a— she says, own a property. they have a car and a full time job ant— have a car and a full time job ant att— have a car and a full time job ant att tne— have a car and a full time job and all the rest— have a car and a full time job and all the rest of— have a car and a full time job and all the rest of it. they nave— and all the rest of it. they nave eneugn— and all the rest of it. they have enough to- and all the rest of it. they have enough to meet their needs. mete-e— have enough to meet their needs. tnene-e a— have enough to meet their needs. tnene-e a tet— have enough to meet their needs. there's a lot of— have enough to meet their needs. there's a lot of people getting in there's a lot of people getting —nme- there's a lot of people getting —nme tnat. - there's a lot of people getting in _me that. do. there's a lot of people getting in think me that. do there's a lot of people getting in think there'sme that. do there's a lot of people getting in think there's as that. do there's a lot of people getting in think there's a snobbery you think there's a snobbery ateut— you think there's a snobbery about apprenticeships? john i tntnt— about apprenticeships? john i tntntltntnt— about apprenticeships? john i thinklthink-is- about apprenticeships? john i think think is amongst think i think there is amongst peepte— think i think there is amongst some people and one of them no. uten— some people and one of them no. uten t— some people and one of them no. uten t eav— some people and one of them no. uten t eav ven— some people and one of them no. when i say 75% of— some people and one of them no. when i say 75% of people- some people and one of them no. when i say 75% of people go- some people and one of them no. when i say 75% of people go to university, i do include university, i do include university, university level qualifications . so an apprentice qualifications. so an apprentice at level four or whatever they call it nowadays. and an hnd and all of those other forms of qualifications. i think the distinction between

apprenticeships , training, apprenticeships, training, university, all the things that should be melted together. university isn't for everyone, is it? my son dropped out of untvenettv— is it? my son dropped out of university after— is it? my son dropped out of university after his- .7’ my son dropped out of university after his second term ant— university after his second term ant tten— university after his second term ant tnen ne— university after his second term and then he went— university after his second term and then he went to and he and then he went to china and he teamet— and then he went to china and he learned mandarin— and then he went to china and he learned mandarin .— and then he went to china and he learned mandarin . and he's much learned mandarin. and he's much more employable_ learned mandarin. and he's much more employable yeah. yeah. more employable now. yeah. yeah. and more employable now. yeah. yeah. ant-enme— more employable now. yeah. yeah. ant-cmna en— more employable now. yeah. yeah. and-china or is— more employable now. yeah. yeah. and-china or is he- and is he in china or is he tatte— and is he in china or is he taete-ne-e— and is he in china or is he back?-he's back- and is he in china or is he back? he's back here. no. back? no, he's back here. no. ant— back? no, he's back here. no. ant-vente— back? no, he's back here. no. and-works in— back? no, he's back here. no. and works in birmingham in and he works in birmingham in uetng— and he works in birmingham in uetng ene— and he works in birmingham in uetng et— and he works in birmingham in using some of his— and he works in birmingham in using some of his mandarin. but i using some of his mandarin. but t—anvtntng. i using some of his mandarin. but t—anvtntng. t| i couldn't think of anything. i ttettng— i couldn't think of anything. i was itching to— i couldn't think of anything. i was itching to get— i couldn't think of anything. i was itching to get out- i couldn't think of anything. i was itching to get out of- was itching to get out of school. i wasn't in there half as i ought to have been. as long as i ought to have been. and literally couldn't wait to and i literally couldn't wait to get door. and the get out the door. and the thought someone saying get out the door. and the thtme,t someone saying get out the door. and the theme, right,meone saying get out the door. and the theme, right, young saying get out the door. and the theme, right, young lady, saying get out the door. and the theme, right, young lady, you've to me, right, young lady, you've now sit in even more now got to sit in even more classrooms and learn even more things. you very much. classrooms and learn even more thant you very much. classrooms and learn even more thant it you very much. classrooms and learn even more thant it to you very much. classrooms and learn even more thant it to be you very much. classrooms and learn even more thant it to be abouti very much. classrooms and learn even more thant it to be about no,ry much. classrooms and learn even more thant it to be about no, i much. classrooms and learn even more thant it to be about no, i just:h. i want it to be about no, i just want it to be out and about earning money. i just thought to myself, i'm going to learn lot myself, i'm going to learn a lot more there, getting more getting in there, getting my hands dirty, then sitting and learning about how things. learning about how to do things. but i accept that my lack of but i do accept that my lack of qualifications made harder qualifications made life harder for to tell fibs for me. i had to tell some fibs which i recommend, by the which i don't recommend, by the way, initially my career way, initially in my career until on the until i got my foot on the ladden until i got my foot on the ladder. but real division there.

not a lot of people agreeing with peter says 75% of with your 75, peter says 75% of people going to university is ridiculous . and the most stupid ridiculous. and the most stupid suggestion i've ever heard you need to get out more is the maternal, said many more things. exactly. i've got many more vvnene— exactly. i've got many more vvnete tnev— exactly. i've got many more where they come from . v425“ where they come from. yeah, a euggeetten. — where they come from. yeah, a suggestion. but you clearly don't watch him enough because thatis don't watch him enough because that is not one of his worst. i can tell you that. for free. make sense? yeah. megan, of course . lots of you saying by course. lots of you saying by the way, that you said that basically that they are now exiled from the royal family. what pointing out is what people are pointing out is they're what they're not that at all. what they're not that at all. what they are is people that decided to leave for privacy while simultaneously milking everything with everything possible to do with the family their own the royal family for their own wealth, not much love, i have to say, standing on their own two feet. they've built a business. n..— feet. they've built a business. we. ttev-te— feet. they've built a business. to. ttev-te net— feet. they've built a business. no, they're not standing on their own. two feet. they're standing on the legacy their standing on the legacy of their royal they royal family connection. if they want to stand on their own two feet, would the feet, they would discern the royal they would just royal family and they would just be and get on be harry and meghan and get on

with business. harry was with their business. harry was clearly traumatised— with their business. harry wasi clearly traumatised - he clearly traumatised by that. he tttn-t— clearly traumatised by that. he tttn-t ge— clearly traumatised by that. he tttn-t ge te— clearly traumatised by that. he didn't go to university. the team— didn't go to university. the teatnlnte— didn't go to university. the death-his mum- didn't go to university. the death his mum and by the by death of his mum and by the by her death of his mum and by the by net-enaeet— death of his mum and by the by ten-enaeet by— death of his mum and by the by her-chased by the - death of his mum and by the by her chased by the media her being chased by the media ant—t— her being chased by the media ant—t tttna- her being chased by the media and—i think. but- her being chased by the media and i think. but no and things like i think. but no tentee— and things like i think. but no one denies that— and things like i think. but no one denies that he's trying to me— one denies that he's trying to me tnvtng— one denies that he's trying to me ttvtng te— one denies that he's trying to he's trying to work some of this etutt— he's trying to work some of this etutt-puttte— he's trying to work some of this stuff-public and- he's trying to work some of this stuff public and wish he stuff out in public and wish he veuttn-t.— stuff out in public and wish he wouldn't.-says. - stuff out in public and wish he wouldn't. says. wouldn't. susan says. how ettmmet— wouldn't. susan says. how ettmmet-veu- wouldn't. susan says. how slimmed you want the slimmed down do you want the monarchy be with slimmed monarchy to be with slimmed down already? know how many already? do you know how many working are in the working royals there are in the royal family? over my royal family? don't look over my page the answer. don't page at the answer. you don't know technically know how many are technically regarded royals . he regarded working royals. he knows everything he knows everything about the royal tamttv— knows everything about the royal tamttv. nev— knows everything about the royal tamttv. nev manv— knows everything about the royal family. how many know this is going— family. how many know this is getng te— family. how many know this is getng te te— family. how many know this is getng te te a— family. how many know this is going to be a long shot? 3 9 going to be a long shot? 8 or 9. ant— going to be a long shot? 8 or 9. ant t-tt— going to be a long shot? 8 or 9. ant t-tt tett— going to be a long shot? 8 or 9. and i'll tell you— going to be a long shot? 8 or 9. and i'll tell you the answer. i'll still be here. i'll do. i'll still be here. i'll do. i'll cut into the next program. 1111. did you get that right at home? did you 11 working members of royal family, apparently. of the royal family, apparently. of be familiar of the royal family, apparently. of most be familiar of the royal family, apparently. of most of be familiar of the royal family, apparently. of most of them. familiar of the royal family, apparently. of most of them. king liar of the royal family, apparently. of most of them. king charles, with most of them. king charles, queen camilla. let's just laze aeunt— queen camilla. let's just laze around arlene foster yes . the around. arlene foster yes. the duke and duchess of gloucester, prince edward , princess prince edward, princess alexander , alexandra prince and alexander, alexandra prince and princess of wales, obviously edinburgh . yes. there you go . 11

edinburgh. yes. there you go. 11 so, yeah, to be fair, i'm not sure how much you can slim down. arnie says those who want to ditch the monarchy for the republic mistakenly think that they more money in they will get more money in their . this myth needs their pocket. this myth needs calling it called calling out consider it called out. people are saying that out. some people are saying that the should for the royals should have paid for their coronation listen. their own coronation listen. what you say to that ? i it's what do you say to that? i it's such a big event and- what do you say to that? i it's such a big event and it- what do you say to that? i it's such a big event and it is- 2tit .“5.7 i it's such a big event and it is a big trav— such a big event and it is a big tnav tet— such a big event and it is a big draw for tourism. _ such a big event and it is a big draw for tourism. it's a big tnveetment— draw for tourism. it's a big investment event . “pg; draw for tourism. it's a big investment event . “ti; 2 investment event. they paid for it themselves. it would have been wine and cheese in windsor, windsor castle. nowadays, nowadays we're all jews, saudis and smoking our diesel and many more of vegan quiches . max wants more of vegan quiches. max wants to go a step further,— more of vegan quiches. max wants to go a step further, he— 2“ 2. 2 max wants to go a step further, he says. tne— to go a step further, he says. tne tuenv— to go a step further, he says. tne tuenv et— to go a step further, he says. the duchy of cornwall should pay eetpetatten— the duchy of cornwall should pay corporation tax,— the duchy of cornwall should pay corporation tax, should they? vee— corporation tax, should they? vee vee. — corporation tax, should they? vee vee. ue. — corporation tax, should they? yes yes. no. .jt�*j5; .. 2tit yes yes. no. maybe. i mean, do i feel strongly about that? look at him. i mean, so it's maybe you think that the royals should pay you think that the royals should pay corporation . he's suddenly pay corporation. he's suddenly gone west on tax ago . 98% for gone west on tax ago. 98% for bp. it may gone west on tax ago. 98% for en t mav te— gone west on tax ago. 98% for bp. it may be exactly- bp. it may be exactly backtracking. . bp. it may be exactly- backtracking. it's backtracking. dave says. can you ask mcternan,

would he put a windfall tax on the billions being made from wind and solar? yes. would you? ateetutetv. — wind and solar? yes. would you? ateetutetv. t— wind and solar? yes. would you? absolutely. i think— wind and solar? yes. would you? absolutely. i think that's one of the most egregious loopholes that's been allowed. they're getting the same price that gas went up to and their cost base hasn't changed at all. russell definition, why isn't anyone giving credit to things dependent on on petroleum extractions? plastics , extractions? the plastics, etetttng— extractions? the plastics, clothing, fibres?- 2.2.52. 7 the plastics, clothing, fibres? cetera. et clothing, fibres? et cetera. et eetem— clothing, fibres? et cetera. et eetem-leave— clothing, fibres? et cetera. et cetera. . says it's - clothing, fibres? et cetera. et cetera. says it's not just cetera. he says it's not just att— cetera. he says it's not just at ateut— cetera. he says it's not just all about petrol— cetera. he says it's not just all about petrol and. and tteeet— all about petrol and. and diesel. look— all about petrol and. and diesel. look at- all about petrol and. and diesel. look at this, everybody. tne— diesel. look at this, everybody. tne tme— diesel. look at this, everybody. the time. that's— diesel. look at this, everybody. the time. that's a— diesel. look at this, everybody. the time. that's a very good pent.— the time. that's a very good petnt. tnene— the time. that's a very good point. there you— the time. that's a very good point. there you go. you said veve— point. there you go. you said veve mate— point. there you go. you said veve mate a— point. there you go. you said you've made a good point. i'm going— you've made a good point. i'm getng-en— you've made a good point. i'm getng-en tnat- you've made a good point. i'm going on that note. then going to end on that note. then one viewers making a good one of my viewers making a good pent.— one of my viewers making a good petnt. tnat— one of my viewers making a good petnt. tnat te— one of my viewers making a good point. that is what— one of my viewers making a good point. that is what we like to unat— point. that is what we like to wnat a— point. that is what we like to see. what a fantastic night i've nat— see. what a fantastic night i've nat tentgnt. — see. what a fantastic night i've had tonight. enjoyed the had tonight. i've enjoyed the eempanv—vve-vel company of you two. we've enjoyed— company of you two. we've enjoyed-susan,- company of you two. we've enjoyed susan, at company of you two. we've. enjoyed-susan,-at the enjoyed it. susan, i said at the etatt— enjoyed it. susan, i said at the etatt-mate— enjoyed it. susan, i said at the etanlmate a— enjoyed it. susan, i said at the start make a judge the start i'd make a judge at the ent.— start i'd make a judge at the ent. tve-ve— start i'd make a judge at the end. we've had— start i'd make a judge at the end. we've had a— start i'd make a judge at the end. we've had a blast. we can taea— end. we've had a blast. we can taet. t— end. we've had a blast. we can come back. i let— end. we've had a blast. we can come back. i let him back again if come back. i let him back again tt ne— come back. i let him back again tt ne vante— come back. i let him back again if he wants to. _ come back. i let him back again if he wants to. we've been live nem— if he wants to. we've been live from buckingham— if he wants to. we've been live from buckingham the from buckingham palace, the sun is from buckingham palace, the sun team—— from buckingham palace, the sun tean— ateetute- is shining. what an absolute treat.— is shining. what an absolute treat—te- is shining. what an absolute treat—te neti treat. and the treats do not etep— treat. and the treats do not etep nete— treat. and the treats do not stop here, everybody, because in tuet— stop here, everybody, because in tuet-mtnutee— stop here, everybody, because in just-minutes,-go- just a few minutes, don't go anvvvtene— just a few minutes, don't go anywhere, because this, the anywhere, because get this, the part— anywhere, because get this, the pan tve— anywhere, because get this, the pan tve et— anywhere, because get this, the pan tve et tne— anywhere, because get this, the part two of the documentary, the crewm— part two of the documentary, the crowanhousand_ part two of the documentary, the crown thousand story crown a thousand years story

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best temperatures about best temperatures around about 18 66. 18 or 19 degrees. 19 is 66. in fahrenheit, always a bit cooler, though, towards the north—east of and as go of scotland. and as we go into the and through the the evening and through the overnight period into the early hours of monday, those showers tend way tend to transfer their way eastwards so some eastwards across the uk. so some showers across the showers developing across the southeast head into the southeast as we head into the early hours of monday, whereas out towards the west and northwest, see some northwest, we start to see some clearer those showers clearer spells as those showers start down. but wherever clearer spells as those showers star are down. but wherever clearer spells as those showers star are with down. but wherever clearer spells as those showers star are with aown. but wherever clearer spells as those showers star are with a fair. but wherever clearer spells as those showers star are with a fair bitrt wherever clearer spells as those showers star are with a fair bit of vherever clearer spells as those showers star are with a fair bit of cloud er you are with a fair bit of cloud still lingering there, temperatures holding in still lingering there, temrangeires holding in still lingering there, tem range 7�*s holding in still lingering there, temrange 7 to holding in still lingering there, temrange 7 to 11 holding in still lingering there, tem range 7 to 11 celsius. in still lingering there, temrange 7 to 11 celsius. as in the range 7 to 11 celsius. as for bank holiday monday, well, a fair few showers still likely across central and eastern across some central and eastern parts 1 2 on parts of england. a 1 or 2 on the heavy side and a bit of showery rain notice there moving into north the uk to into the far north of the uk to parts northern scotland. parts of northern scotland. we're a fairly damp day we're seeing a fairly damp day on monday, but elsewhere it's a quieter picture, less in the way of the way of of showers, more in the way of bright to and feeling bright weather to and feeling more comfortable, i think with temperatures more comfortable, i think with temperaturebright spells into well in the bright spells into the to high celsius. the mid to high teens celsius. again, could see a high of 19 again, we could see a high of 19 or 20 degrees towards the south, but still quite chilly out towards north—east of towards the far north—east of scotland. as for the outlook well tuesday wednesday,

well into tuesday and wednesday, pressure we see pressure starts to rise. we see a of my sunshine a bit more of my sunshine certainly but notice certainly on tuesday, but notice towards the north the uk towards the north of the uk there could see there by wednesday we could see some developing. some more cloud developing. that's soon. that's it. i'll see you soon. bye

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