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it's coronation eve and the . it's coronation eve and the countdown— - it's coronation eve and the countdown to — . it's coronation eve and the countdown to the— it's coronation eve and the countdown to the biggest constitutional— countdown to the biggest constitutional event of the century— constitutional event of the century so— constitutional event of the century so far— constitutional event of the century so far on mark dolan . century so far on mark dolan. nongnn— century so far on mark dolan. nongnn in— century so far on mark dolan. nonngnn in n— century so far on mark dolan. tonight, in a special three hour snow— tonight, in a special three hour snow une— tonight, in a special three hour show live from _ tonight, in a special three hour show live from buckingham pence,— show live from buckingham palace, we've— show live from buckingham palace, we've got the pundits , palace, we've got the pundits, the palace, we've got the pundits, nne royal— palace, we've got the pundits, the royal experts,— palace, we've got the pundits, the royal experts, the journalists- the royal experts, the journalists and the biographers. and journalists and the biographers. ann newe— journalists and the biographers. ann gon— journalists and the biographers. and we've got you, the great nnnsn— and we've got you, the great nnnsn non— and we've got you, the great british for public what will be nnne— british for public what will be nnne nonn— british for public what will be three hours of— british for public what will be three hours of anticipation , three hours of anticipation, excitement— three hours of anticipation, excitement and— three hours of anticipation, excitement and celebration . it's excitement and celebration. it's the excitement and celebration. it's nne nann— excitement and celebration. it's nne pan on— excitement and celebration. it's nne pan of ne— excitement and celebration. it's the party of the year. so bring
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a nonn— the party of the year. so bring a none and— the party of the year. so bring a bottle and maybe a flag and i'll a bottle and maybe a flag and nu ee— a bottle and maybe a flag and nu yon— a bottle and maybe a flag and i'll see you after— a bottle and maybe a flag and i'll see you after the headlines winn— i'll see you after the headlines nnn nennnny— i'll see you after the headlines with bethany elsey . good with bethany elsey. good evening. — with bethany elsey. good evening. i'm— with bethany elsey. good evening. with bethany elsey. good- evening. i'm bethany elsey with your top stories from the newsroom. the labour party has made significant gains in the local elections in england and is now the largest party at local government level with just eight out of 230 councils still left to declare their results, labour has so far gained control of 21, while the liberal democrats have gained 11. the conservative party has lost control of 45 councils in more than 1000 seats. the prime minister , rishi sunak, has minister, rishi sunak, has admitted the results are disappointing. the admitted the results are disappointing . the message i am disappointing. the message i am nennng— disappointing. the message i am nennng non — disappointing. the message i am hearing from people— z g the message i am hearing from people tonight is net— hearing from people tonight is net nney— hearing from people tonight is that they want— hearing from people tonight is that they want us to focus on men— that they want us to focus on their priorities— that they want us to focus on their priorities and they want us no— their priorities and they want us to deliver— their priorities and they want us to deliver for— their priorities and they want us to deliver for them and nan-s— us to deliver for them and that's-halving- us to deliver for them and that's halving inflation, that's about halving inflation, growing— that's about halving inflation, growing one— that's about halving inflation, growing the economy, reducing nonn— growing the economy, reducing noon-waning- growing the economy, reducing debt-waiting-andj debt, cutting waiting lists and snooping— debt, cutting waiting lists and stopping one— debt, cutting waiting lists and stopping the boats. that's what
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people— stopping the boats. that's what people about stopping the boats. that's what people-about. that's- stopping the boats. that's what people care about. that's what they people care about. that's what no nonn— people care about. that's what nnoy want no— people care about. that's what they want usldeliver. - f that's what they want us deliver. and they want us to deliver. and non-o— they want us to deliver. and noon-ano— they want us to deliver. and that's-and the- they want us to deliver. and that's and the government they want us to deliver. and tha'going and the government they want us to deliver. and tha'going workthe government they want us to deliver. and tha'going workthe chardiment they want us to deliver. and tha'going work the chard to ent are going to work very hard to no. — are going to work very hard to do. meanwhile— are going to work very hard to do. meanwhile ,_ are going to work very hard to do. meanwhile , sir- are going to work very hard to do. mcew " " are going to work very hard to do. " " do. meanwhile, sir keir starmer believes party is on believes the labour party is on track to win a majority in the next election. we've next general election. we've just taken medway- next general election. we've just taken medway for- "um g: f 0" we've just taken medway for the first nine— just taken medway for the first one no— just taken medway for the first time since 1998.— just taken medway for the first time since 1998. that is a very , ven— time since 1998. that is a very , very good— time since 1998. that is a very nvery goon nono— time since 1998. that is a very , very good night for the labour party— , very good night for the labour pony ano— , very good night for the labour pony and no— , very good night for the labour party and it's the— , very good night for the labour party and it's the same story ononnono— party and it's the same story ononnono ,— party and it's the same story elsewhere , the— party and it's the same story elsewhere , the same story in elsewhere, the same story in plymouth— elsewhere, the same story in nononnn in— elsewhere, the same story in plymouth in stoke up in middlesbrough. and these are the key battlegrounds_ middlesbrough. and these are the key battlegrounds as we go into the key battlegrounds as we go into one noon— key battlegrounds as we go into the next election— key battlegrounds as we go into the next election . ' z the next election. and the noon— the next election. and the liberal democrat leader, sir ed davey, said the conservatives should be worried . these are should be worried. these are some of our best— should be worried. these are some of our best ever- these are some of our best ever results. they— some of our best ever results. no one— some of our best ever results. no give no— some of our best ever results. no give no n— some of our best ever results. they give us a great- some of our best ever results. they give us a great foundation for the next general election . for the next general election. they'll be conservative mps across the blue wall seats across the blue wall seats across many of these areas who will be really, really worried now liberal democrats now that the liberal democrats could beat them at the next general election. the top news soon— general election. the top news story onio— general election. the top news story this evening— general election. the top news story this evening on- g; f in" the top news story this evening on the eve of the story this evening on the eve of one king-o— story this evening on the eve of the king's coronation, the king and— the king's coronation, the king and one— the king's coronation, the king and the prince— the king's coronation, the king and the prince and princess of woos—
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and the prince and princess of wales nove— and the prince and princess of wales have greeted well—wishers on one— wales have greeted well—wishers on one nou— wales have greeted well—wishers on one man . — wales have greeted well—wishers on the mall . g on the mall. congratulations. you put . you look much younger you put. you look much younger in the flesh . and you better in the flesh. and you better look peter murrell . king charles look peter murrell. king charles nono— look peter murrell. king charles nooo o— look peter murrell. king charles made a surprise— soil. ”cm king charles made a surprise appearance to noon— made a surprise appearance to noon winn— made a surprise appearance to meet with some— made a surprise appearance to meet with some of the thousands gonnonoo— meet with some of the thousands gathered outside— meet with some of the thousands gathered outside buckingham nonco— gathered outside buckingham palace .— gathered outside buckingham palace . william and kate joined palace. william and kate joined the palace. william and kate joined one king— palace. william and kate joined one king on— palace. william and kate joined the king for the— palace. william and kate joined the king for the walkabout. they praised— the king for the walkabout. they pronoo one— the king for the walkabout. they pronoo one pony— the king for the walkabout. they praised the party atmosphere on the praised the party atmosphere on one nou— praised the party atmosphere on one man and— praised the party atmosphere on the mall and described the coronation— the mall and described the coronation as— the mall and described the coronation as a— the mall and described the coronation as a great moment of celebration— coronation as a great moment of celebration .— coronation as a great moment of celebration . the— coronation as a great moment of celebration . the trio shook celebration. the trio shook nanos— celebration. the trio shook nonoo ano— celebration. the trio shook hands and took- celebration. the trio shook hands and took selfies with the nonna— hands and took selfies with the crowd and— hands and took selfies with the crowds and there— hands and took selfies with the crowds and there were cheers of non— crowds and there were cheers of non sove— crowds and there were cheers of god save one — crowds and there were cheers of god save the king. _ crowds and there were cheers of god save the king. the royalists wo-no— god save the king. the royalists wo-no noon— god save the king. the royalists who've been camping out, hoping to canon— who've been camping out, hoping to oonon o— who've been camping out, hoping to catch a glimpse— who've been camping out, hoping to catch a glimpse of history nong— to catch a glimpse of history nonng nooo— to catch a glimpse of history being made this— to catch a glimpse of history being made this weekend, have oooonnoo— being made this weekend, have oooonnoo n— being made this weekend, have described it as— being made this weekend, have described it as a— being made this weekend, have described it as a once in a mono— described it as a once in a lifetime opportunity. we were literally— lifetime opportunity. we were noonouw won— lifetime opportunity. we were literally just walking back to the literally just walking back to no nono— literally just walking back to the hotel and— literally just walking back to the hotel and then we just saw owonnoow— the hotel and then we just saw everybody cheering and came over and everybody cheering and came over ono-nno— everybody cheering and came over ono-ono king— everybody cheering and came over and-the king and- everybody cheering and came over and-the king and i- everybody cheering and came over and the king and i got and then saw the king and i got to and then saw the king and i got no onono— and then saw the king and i got no onono nno— and then saw the king and i got to shake the hand— and then saw the king and i got to shake the hand . /:::. gin and then saw the king and i got to shake the hand . yin. gin. to shake the hand. you've got to snake— to shake the hand. you've got to shake the hand through the crowd. and i got to shake of the hand. i think this is britain at its best. you know, everybody's
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nononng— its best. you know, everybody's nattering leverybody. - nattering to everybody. there's no—n-non- no stiff upper lip. it's just nowow— no stiff upper lip. it's just nowow .— no stiff upper lip. it's just wowow . wo— no stiff upper lip. it's just lovely . we wanted be lovely. we just wanted to be a part— lovely. we just wanted to be a pan-noon— lovely. we just wanted to be a part-history and— lovely. we just wanted to be a part history and the part of history and enjoy the you— part of history and enjoy the you know.— part of history and enjoy the you know, nobody does it better man— you know, nobody does it better nnon nno— you know, nobody does it better than the british. _ you know, nobody does it better than the british. : than the british. so we wanted to than the british. so we wanted oo o— than the british. so we wanted to see all the excitement and be a part of it . in to see all the excitement and be a part of it. in other news, to see all the excitement and be a part of it . in other news, the a part of it. in other news, the world health organisation has announced that covid 19 no longer represent a global health emergency. it's longer represent a global health emergency . it's a step towards emergency. it's a step towards the emergency. it's a step towards nno ono— emergency. it's a step towards no on on— emergency. it's a step towards no on on o— nii'tni�*lflgiil'tg it's a step towards the end of a pandemic that has nuoo— the end of a pandemic that has won nonw— the end of a pandemic that has killed nearly 7— the end of a pandemic that has killed nearly 7 million people moonw— killed nearly 7 million people gnononw. nun— killed nearly 7 million people globally. but the director nnononoo— globally. but the director insisted countries shouldn't let down— insisted countries shouldn't let down now— insisted countries shouldn't let down their guard,— insisted countries shouldn't let down their guard, mourning the woo— down their guard, mourning the wo— down their guard, mourning the no nono— down their guard, mourning the virus is here to— down their guard, mourning the virus is here to stay . you're up virus is here to stay. you're up to virus is here to stay. you're up no dono— virus is here to stay. you're up no no on— virus is here to stay. you're up no no on on— virus is here to stay. you're up to date on gb news now. let's get— to date on gb news now. let's go noon— to date on gb news now. let's go back no— to date on gb news now. let's go back no .— get back to. mark conwon- get back to. mark convert the monarchy. get back to. mark- convert the monarchy. it's coronation— convert the monarchy. it's coronation eve— convert the monarchy. it's coronation eve and the countdown to the biggest constituted
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moment of the century. so far on mark dolan tonight in a special three hour show live from buckingham palace, we've got the punst buckingham palace, we've got the pundits , the royal experts, the pundits, the royal experts, the journalists and the biographers. and we've got you , the great and we've got you, the great british public, for what is a night of anticipation. it excitement and celebration , in excitement and celebration, in my big opinion , my appraisal of my big opinion, my appraisal of our new monarch . is he up to the our new monarch. is he up to the job? our new monarch. is he up to the job.7 i'll be giving my unapologetic verdict shortly in my take at ten, i'll be making the case for queen camilla. it's my view that she will be the jewel in the crown of this new monarchy. we'll be joined by britain's most feared and revered royal biographer, tom bower. prince andrew's best mate, socialite and dropper of truth bombs, lady victoria hervey, former national newspaper editor and the first lady of fleet street. eve pollard. diana's former bodyguard, ken wharfe , the queen bodyguard, ken wharfe, the queen of us showbiz and royal reporting, kinsey schofield and a man who knows the royals better than they know themselves. diana's former butler , paul burrell. plus
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butler, paul burrell. plus x military man ben obe ejected. historian david oldroyd bolt and ex—royal journalist linda jubilee. it's a cast of thousands and they're all live with me here at the palace . now, with me here at the palace. now, look, i want to hear from you throughout the show. mark gb news .uk this hour will be asking , will news .uk this hour will be asking, will being king change? charles, has the job come too late for our new king? and will the coronation even unite the united kingdom ? you won't want united kingdom? you won't want to miss a second of the action. we've got ringside seats. let's go . go. down and kicking off the pre match action is revered and feared. biographer tom bower, who is the author of rebel king the making of a monarch, which i've just finished, an absolute page turner. tom, welcome to the palace. thank you. good to see you . first of all, i just saw you. first of all, i just saw charles go by a couple of hours ago. he gave me a little wave, i
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think probably a gb news fan . think probably a gb news fan. does he want this? oh he wants it desperately. he's wanted it so noon.— it desperately. he's wanted it so noon. ano— it desperately. he's wanted it so much. and to— it desperately. he's wanted it so much. and to his- . : he's wanted it so much. and to his misfortune, his so much. and to his misfortune, no parents-— so much. and to his misfortune, his parents. there— so much. and to his misfortune, his parents. there was a dinner for nwnoo— his parents. there was a dinner for prince philip— his parents. there was a dinner for prince philip in— his parents. there was a dinner for prince philip in his 95th nnnnoow— for prince philip in his 95th nnnnoow on— for prince philip in his 95th birthday at travellers . and birthday at travellers. and someone said,— birthday at travellers. and someone said, will charles be a good— someone said, will charles be a good nngo— someone said, will charles be a good know and— someone said, will charles be a good king? and his father said to good king? and his father said no no— good king? and his father said no no noon.— good king? and his father said to his hosts, the— good king? and his father said to his hosts, the only reason no— to his hosts, the only reason no onoon— to his hosts, the only reason the queen and— to his hosts, the only reason the queen and i— to his hosts, the only reason the queen and i continue to live is no— the queen and i continue to live is no nnowonn— the queen and i continue to live is to prevent charles becoming king.— is to prevent charles becoming nng. ano— is to prevent charles becoming nng. and no— is to prevent charles becoming king. and it was— is to prevent charles becoming king. and it was that was the nonwor— king. and it was that was the nonnon no— king. and it was that was the barrier to him _ king. and it was that was the barrier to him becoming the nonoon so— barrier to him becoming the monarch. so he— barrier to him becoming the monarch. so he wants it badly. noo— monarch. so he wants it badly. no-o no— monarch. so he wants it badly. he's now freed— monarch. so he wants it badly. he's now freed from his parents onnonwonon— he's now freed from his parents onoowwonon oo— he's now freed from his parents supervision, so to— he's now freed from his parents supervision, so to speak, and nnon-o— supervision, so to speak, and nnon-o gono— supervision, so to speak, and nnon-o gono. w— supervision, so to speak, and that's gone. i think the legacy of mono— that's gone. i think the legacy of mono wo— that's gone. i think the legacy of diana is finally being extinguished— of diana is finally being extinguished or he will try his nonooon— extinguished or he will try his nonooon no— extinguished or he will try his hardest to extinguish it. so noo— hardest to extinguish it. so no-o nnonw— hardest to extinguish it. so he's finally got— hardest to extinguish it. so he's finally got to where he wonnoo— he's finally got to where he wonnoo no— he's finally got to where he wanted to be,— he's finally got to where he wanted to be, probably 20 years ago. — wanted to be, probably 20 years ago. no— wanted to be, probably 20 years ago. no nnono— wanted to be, probably 20 years ago. is there some— wanted to be, probably 20 years ago. is there some bitterness in his ago. is there some bitterness in no noon— ago. is there some bitterness in no noon nnon— ago. is there some bitterness in his heart that it's— ago. is there some bitterness in his heart that it's come this nono— his heart that it's come this nono 7— his heart that it's come this no noon.— his heart that it's come this late ? well, it's— his heart that it's come this late ? well, it's very hard to late? well, it's very hard to sow. — late? well, it's very hard to say. bitterness— late? well, it's very hard to say. bitterness because, after all,— say. bitterness because, after on. no— say. bitterness because, after on. no noo— say. bitterness because, after all, he had to— say. bitterness because, after all, he had to wait for his nonnon— all, he had to wait for his nonnon no— all, he had to wait for his mother to die.—
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all, he had to wait for his mother to die. i- all, he had to wait for his mother to die. i think that he wound— mother to die. i think that he wowo nowo— mother to die. i think that he would have because he's a sort of pooowonono— would have because he's a sort of passionate historian in many wows.— of passionate historian in many wows. no— of passionate historian in many wows. no wound— of passionate historian in many ways. he would have liked to nono— ways. he would have liked to have come to— ways. he would have liked to have come to the— ways. he would have liked to have come to the throne earlier. so have come to the throne earlier. so nnono— have come to the throne earlier. so there would— have come to the throne earlier. so there would .a _ have come to the throne earlier. so there would a long so there would be a long career era so there would be a long career . so— so there would be a long career . so nnono— so there would be a long career era . so there would be some sort era. so there would be some sort of nnononoon— era. so there would be some sort of historical legacy,— era. so there would be some sort of historical legacy, which he's gong— of historical legacy, which he's gowng no— of historical legacy, which he's gowng no on— of historical legacy, which he's now going to try to cram in, oxoonn— now going to try to cram in, oxoonn .— now going to try to cram in, except i think— now going to try to cram in, except i think he's a bit too woo— except i think he's a bit too won for— except i think he's a bit too won for n.— except i think he's a bit too tired for it, a— except i think he's a bit too tired for it, a bit— except i think he's a bit too tired for it, a bit too old to noon— tired for it, a bit too old to actually impose- tired for it, a bit too old to actually impose himself the same way actually impose himself the same wow oo— actually impose himself the same wow oo no— actually impose himself the same way as his mother— actually impose himself the same way as his mother did. actually impose himself the same way as his mother did . w way as his mother did. does he oooono— way as his mother did. does he oooowo oo— way as his mother did. does he deserve to no— way as his mother did. does he deserve to be king? well,- way as his mother did. i : 37 well, i'm deserve to be king? well, i'm a nonononnon.— deserve to be king? well, i'm a monarchist, and— : “q7 well, i'm a monarchist, and therefore, i onwnn— monarchist, and therefore, i onnnk nno— monarchist, and therefore, i think the hereditary principle onowo— think the hereditary principle onoono — think the hereditary principle should run. but— think the hereditary principle should run. but i- think the hereditary principle should run. w:wiw“ . should run. but i don't think that he is going to be the sort of person who can unite britain, as his mother did. i think he's been far too controversial , far been far too controversial, far too difficult. there's far too much of a footprint and a legacy . see, over these last 50 years, of all his campaigns and all the people who he really insulted to actually warm the british public towards him. but i think the majority of britons do want a monarchy and they'll tolerate him rather than love him as
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prince of wales. he lived in the onooow— prince of wales. he lived in the onooow on— prince of wales. he lived in the shadow of princess— 37” “wtwi; he lived in the shadow of princess diana . will shadow of princess diana. will he shadow of princess diana. will no uno— shadow of princess diana. will no nwo on— shadow of princess diana. will he live in the— shadow of princess diana. will he live in the shadow of his nonco— he live in the shadow of his son, prince william , and his son, prince william, and his oooonnon— son, prince william, and his oooonnon on— son, prince william, and his daughter in law,— son, prince william, and his daughter in law, kate? when he wnon— daughter in law, kate? when he wnon no— daughter in law, kate? when he wnon no no— daughter in law, kate? when he when he is finally— daughter in law, kate? when he when he is finally coronated tornonow — when he is finally coronated tomorrow? well,- when he is finally coronated tomorrow? well, i- when he is finally coronated tomorrow? �*fw�*wi;.. w:wiw“ . tomorrow? well, i don't think there'll be so much a shadow, but he relies on them desperately because in the end, the polls have all shown that the polls have all shown that the young people and diverse community in britain is pretty republican and pretty anti monarchy . and william could win monarchy. and william could win those people over . i monarchy. and william could win those people over. i think charles is far too old and set in his ways to win them over. and of course, he lives with a terrible legacy now of meghan saying that the royal family is racist, which is a complete calumny , completely untrue. but calumny, completely untrue. but he arrived on the throne with so many minuses that it's hard to see that he can shine except through william and kate , who through william and kate, who are remarkably popular and rightly popular, and to some extent . but it rightly popular, and to some extent. but it is rightly popular, and to some extent . but it is in a way rightly popular, and to some extent. but it is in a way, rightly popular, and to some extent . but it is in a way, a extent. but it is in a way, a shame that we don't go straight from the queen to william and
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kate, because they would have really given the monarchy a huge amount of vigour. might they be the amount of vigour. might they be two totnt— amount of vigour. might they be the joint elephants— amount of vigour. might they be the joint elephants in— . gin-f might they be the joint elephants in the room as the joint elephants in the room oo tno— the joint elephants in the room oo to king— the joint elephants in the room as the king ages— the joint elephants in the room as the king ages with the public tntnttnoo— as the king ages with the public thinking? come— as the king ages with the public thinking? come on, charles, make way— thinking? come on, charles, make wow tor— thinking? come on, charles, make wow tor tnooo — thinking? come on, charles, make way for these two. _ thinking? come on, charles, make way for these two. well, i think tno— way for these two. well, i think ttno wttt— way for these two. well, i think time will tell. _ way for these two. well, i think time will tell. i— way for these two. well, i think time will tell. i think abdication in the grounds of old age is unlikely. and what's very interesting is and the queen set that precedent exactly. but what's interesting and no one would wanted the queen to abdicate. that's the point. but would wanted the queen to athink:e. that's the point. but would wanted the queen to athink what's's the point. but would wanted the queen to athink what's interesting:. but would wanted the queen to athink what's interesting is3ut would wanted the queen to athiikateiat's interesting is3ut would wanted the queen to athiikate and interesting is3ut would wanted the queen to athiikate and william ng is3ut would wanted the queen to athiikate and william ares3ut how kate and william are constantly pushed forward by the palace, they realise palace, because they realise that charles cannot actually win over people. and i think he himself knows that. i mean, you know, he's not a populist. he you know, he's a passionate person about all his interests , person about all his interests, but he isn't someone of the people, although he tries hard. and actually when he meets the people on whole people who people on the whole people who meet him like very much, meet him like him very much, because very interested in because he's very interested in people and he cares for their problems. so think he's problems. so you think he's tntorootot— problems. so you think he's interethink_ problems. so you think he's interethink he's— problems. so you think he's interethink he's got- so you think he's interethink he's got the common don't think he's got the common tooono— don't think he's got the common tooono — don't think he's got the common tooono wot.— don't think he's got the common touch? well, he— don't think he's got the common touch? well, he not— don't think he's got the common touch? : touch? well, he not only does he have common touch, he have the common touch, but he
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doesn't to be common and he doesn't want to be common and he doesn't want to be common and he doesn't touch. doesn't want to be in touch. yeah, you know, a sort of yeah, you know, he's a sort of very perfectionist who's very he's hypochondriac. very perfectionist who's very he's awfully ypochondriac. very perfectionist who's very he's awfully ypochon about and awful awfully careful about where he but on the other where he goes. but on the other hand, he's a man of hand, you know, he's a man of 74. you know, and his wife 74. yeah you know, and his wife is not in the best of health, i don't and so a very don't think. and so it's a very difficult have the difficult for them to have the energy to engage young energy to engage with young people, william people, which kate and william can you not can do. now, are you not a little harsh on the king in terms of his energy? because many terms of his energy? because nonw-woott- terms of his energy? because many-would suggest. terms of his energy? because. many -would suggest that many people would suggest that tnoro—oonottl there are parallels with donald trunn— there are parallels with donald trunn-non- there are parallels with donald trump.-man-into| trump. again, a man well into his trump. again, a man well into nto-ooo— trump. again, a man well into nto-ooo wno— trump. again, a man well into his-70s who has- trump. again, a man well into his 70s who has unending his mid 70s who has unending onorow. — his mid 70s who has unending onorow. non-t— his mid 70s who has unending onorow. non-t woo— his mid 70s who has unending energy. don't you think? charles is energy. don't you think? charles to ot— energy. don't you think? charles to ot tno— energy. don't you think? charles is of the same— energy. don't you think? charles is of the same ilk— energy. don't you think? charles is of the same ilk ?_ energy. don't you think? charles is of the same ilk ? well, this is of the same ilk? well, this is of the same ilk? well, this to o— is of the same ilk? well, this to o tornooo— is of the same ilk? well, this is a famous workaholic , a guy is a famous workaholic, a guy wno— is a famous workaholic, a guy wno-ootoon— is a famous workaholic, a guy wno-ootoon tn- is a famous workaholic, a guy who asleep in dead of who falls asleep in the dead of nont— who falls asleep in the dead of ntont-nto— who falls asleep in the dead of night-his letters- who falls asleep in the dead of night his letters and night reading his letters and wnttno— night reading his letters and wnttno nto— night reading his letters and writing his letters. ' .wi-w writing his letters. absolutely . i think he has that sort of energy and i he has energy energy and i think he has energy when goes on his walkabouts when he goes on his walkabouts and visits people. but there's a limit much he can do. limit to how much he can do. i mean, there's a limit. is he worked perhaps six months of the mean, there's a limit. is he work and erhaps six months of the mean, there's a limit. is he work and theips six months of the mean, there's a limit. is he work and the restix months of the mean, there's a limit. is he work and the rest of�*nonths of the mean, there's a limit. is he work and the rest of itinths of the mean, there's a limit. is he work and the rest of it is hs of the mean, there's a limit. is he work and the rest of it is spentthe year and the rest of it is spent in balmoral or highgrove or sandringham or somewhere else. and i think that do it and i think that he can't do it full and nor does he. do full time, and nor does he. do you an early
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you think he'd like an early nont— you think he'd like an early ntont-tor— you think he'd like an early night for example? you think he'd like an early. night-for example? i night tonight? for example? i tttnt— night tonight? for example? i tttnt-to-tt— night tonight? for example? i think-he'll do- night tonight? for example? i think-he'll do his- think tonight he'll do his normal . he'll one normal routine. he'll have one martini, have a second martini, he'll have a second martini, he'll have a second martini, be enormously martini, he'll be enormously excited after all this tomorrow. he's been preparing this for 20 years, been going through all the books, all the old manuscripts to see how a coronation should be organised. he's orchestrated it to perfection . then he's going to perfection. then he's going to see his theatre , his play, his see his theatre, his play, his performance tomorrow played out. we could easily do an hour on wow— we could easily do an hour on your fantastic— we could easily do an hour on your fantastic book, rebel king. i your fantastic book, rebel king. r won-t— your fantastic book, rebel king. w won-t plug— your fantastic book, rebel king. wwon-t plug nt— your fantastic book, rebel king. iwon't plug it too— your fantastic book, rebel king. i won't plug it too much because wo-o— i won't plug it too much because woo not— i won't plug it too much because woo not ptontw— i won't plug it too much because you've had plenty of sales otrootw— you've had plenty of sales otrootw. tot— you've had plenty of sales already, but i— you've had plenty of sales already, but i would recommend it. already, but i would recommend tt. noro-o— already, but i would recommend tt. noro-o o— already, but i would recommend it. here's a quote— already, but i would recommend it. here's a quote from the book by it. here's a quote from the book nw rotwtno— it. here's a quote from the book nw rotwtno on— it. here's a quote from the book by relying on sycophants willing to totoroto— by relying on sycophants willing to tolerate his— by relying on sycophants willing to tolerate his tirades and his roiootton— to tolerate his tirades and his roiootton ot— to tolerate his tirades and his rejection of any— to tolerate his tirades and his rejection of any criticism cnortoo— rejection of any criticism charles has— rejection of any criticism charles has made damaging ntototoo— charles has made damaging mistakes, his— charles has made damaging mistakes, his grudges and ttotowottw— mistakes, his grudges and disloyalty have deprived him of wno— disloyalty have deprived him of wise advisors._ disloyalty have deprived him of wise advisors. so— disloyalty have deprived him of wise advisors. so what do you tntnt— wise advisors. so what do you tntnt otoot— wise advisors. so what do you think about his— wise advisors. so what do you think about his inner circle nont— think about his inner circle nont no— think about his inner circle right now? and— think about his inner circle right now? and will they show ntn— right now? and will they show ntn tno— right now? and will they show ntn two way? — right now? and will they show him the way? wtwi-- right now? and will they show him the way? �*fw�*wi;-- him the way? well, i think what happened was that that book, if i may be so modest, changed
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charles dramatically, because the source of that particular paragraph, as many others were people who had worked for him and were outraged by his behaviour and most important of all, with he hadn't all, were fed up with he hadn't sent them a christmas card after he them. seemed to he fired them. that seemed to play he fired them. that seemed to play he does cut play heavily because he does cut quite a disloyal this quite a disloyal figure in this book. he's a decent guy, but too— book. he's a decent guy, but no-o-roottw— book. he's a decent guy, but no-o-roottw got— book. he's a decent guy, but he's-really got your- he's a decent guy, but he's really got your back. he's not really got your back. trott— he's not really got your back. wot. no— he's not really got your back. wot. to not— he's not really got your back. well, he not only— he's not really got your back. well, he not only has- he's not really got your back. well, he not only has he- he's not really got your back. well, he not only has he got his back, he'll stab you in the chest if you no to him and chest if you said no to him and thatis chest if you said no to him and that is what weakened him as prince of wales, that he wouldn't to good advice. prince of wales, that he vtthinki't to good advice. prince of wales, that he vtthink he's to good advice. prince of wales, that he vtthink he's changed.)d advice. i think he's changed. he's listening now because listening to advice now because he has no alternative . has the he has no alternative. has the mrs. he has no alternative. has the mn. ononoot— he has no alternative. has the mrs. changed him?— he has no alternative. has the mrs. changed him? we- has the mrs. changed him? we know he's tonoottoottw— mrs. changed him? we know he's domestically happy now, but has conttto— domestically happy now, but has camilla influenced charles? oh, of course. there's— camilla influenced charles? oh, of course. there's no- camilla influenced charles? oh, of course. there's no doubt that he's . but women he's much happier. but women don't he's much happier. but women ton-t nono— he's much happier. but women don't have that— he's much happier. but women don't have that power- wt“ but women don't have that power over men, wt“ but women d0ithey?'e that power over men, wt“ but women d0ithey? that power over men, wt“ but women d0ithey? o“ t power over men, he's much happier. but women d0ithey? oh, absolutely.r men, he's much happier. but women d0ithey? oh, absolutely. well,, do they? oh, absolutely. well, then right then you haven't met the right women. let tell you, my house women. let me tell you, my house is women. let me tell you, my house to-tonooroow. — women. let me tell you, my house is-democracy. exactly- women. let me tell you, my house is-democracy. exactly .- women. let me tell you, my house is-democracy. exactly. no.| is not a democracy. exactly. no. i camilla is one of those i mean, camilla is one of those wonderfully country, sensible women. take no nonsense. take no quarter and play it hard when
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it's necessary and give love also when it's appropriate . and also when it's appropriate. and she's given him enormous support at but always remember about camilla. i know you think that her great love was not charles, her great love was not charles, her great love was not charles, her great love was andrew parker bowles yeah. and she wouldn't dreamt of marrying charles at that moment and she wouldn't have been married to him. now if andrew parker bowles had been a faithful husband. well, there you go. faithful husband. well, there woo go. on— faithful husband. well, there woo go. on tnot— : well, there you go. on that bombshell. more to oo— you go. on that bombshell. more to tron— you go. on that bombshell. more to come from tom _ you go. on that bombshell. more to come from tom bower, also ttoot— to come from tom bower, also ttoot-tooont— to come from tom bower, also fleet-legend eve- to come from tom bower, also fleet legend eve pollard fleet street legend eve pollard has fleet street legend eve pollard noo tno— fleet street legend eve pollard too to ion— fleet street legend eve pollard has the job come— fleet street legend eve pollard has the job come too late for king— has the job come too late for king charles?— has the job come too late for king charles? and does our new king— king charles? and does our new ttno nono— king charles? and does our new ttno nowo o— king charles? and does our new king have a good— king charles? and does our new king have a good relationship wttn— king have a good relationship wttn tno— king have a good relationship with the press?— king have a good relationship with the press? all of that not. — with the press? all of that not. on. — with the press? all of that next. oh, and— with the press? all of that next. oh, and by the way, here's no— next. oh, and by the way, here's no ntnottno— next. oh, and by the way, here's me mingling with— next. oh, and by the way, here's me mingling with the great nntton— me mingling with the great british public.— me mingling with the great british public. take a look. wnot— british public. take a look. wnot ttnt— british public. take a look. what kind of— british public. take a look. what kind of king do you think cnortoo— what kind of king do you think cnortoo to— what kind of king do you think charles is going— what kind of king do you think charles is going to be? wtwi-- charles is going to be? well, i tttnt— charles is going to be? well, i tttnt ton— charles is going to be? well, i think he's had a lot of practise. i think he's going to be very good. and i think queen camilla is going to be great alongside him to you. well, you look at the man he is the man, the character that he is. i mean, he's fantastic. he's environmentalist. he cares about
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the community. he cares about all faiths. he's involved. he has an opinion. all faiths. he's involved. he has an opinion . and it's a solid has an opinion. and it's a solid opinion. and he takes that in his role as king. i think his role as a king. i think that's we have to look at. that's what we have to look at. who he is .
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its very own security challenges . you're listening . to welcome . you're listening. to welcome noct— . you're listening. to welcome noon to— . you're listening. to welcome noon to not— you're listening. to welcome back to mark dolan tonight and it back to mark dolan tonight and t to— back to mark dolan tonight and t to o— back to mark dolan tonight and it is a coronation— back to mark dolan tonight and it is a coronation eve special, tno— it is a coronation eve special, the countdown _ it is a coronation eve special, the countdown to— it is a coronation eve special, the countdown to the coronation. two— the countdown to the coronation. two got— the countdown to the coronation. two oot torn — the countdown to the coronation. i've got tom bower— the countdown to the coronation. i've got tom bower with me. fearsome royal— i've got tom bower with me. fearsome royal biographer, and i'm fearsome royal biographer, and tn tottontot— fearsome royal biographer, and i'm delighted to— fearsome royal biographer, and i'm delighted to say the first notw— i'm delighted to say the first totw ot— i'm delighted to say the first totw or root— i'm delighted to say the first lady of fleet street, former nottonot— lady of fleet street, former national newspaper editor eve round.— national newspaper editor eve rottort. two.— national newspaper editor eve pollard. eve, great to have you nono— pollard. eve, great to have you too wttn— pollard. eve, great to have you too wttn oo— pollard. eve, great to have you here with us at— pollard. eve, great to have you here with us at the palace. tovotw— here with us at the palace. towotw to— here with us at the palace. towotw to to— here with us at the palace. lovely to be here. what's your opprotoot— lovely to be here. what's your opprotoot ot— lovely to be here. what's your appraisal of charles's relationship- appraisal of charles's relationship with the press ? relationship with the press? i tttnt— relationship with the press? i tttnt tt-o— relationship with the press? i think it's getting— relationship with the press? i think it's getting better.- think it's getting better. i mean , i think that he went mean, i think that he went through a very difficult period with the whole diana thing . he with the whole diana thing. he was cast as the baddie. yeah
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he's now happily married to. i think camilla has an enormous influence over his life. i've ianed influence over his life. i've invited her to a thing that i founded called women in journalism. she has come to our talks. she's talked journalists. she's met journalists . she's she's met journalists. she's ianed she's met journalists. she's invited us back to dumfries house, where we had an afghani female journalist who talked about the problems about afghanistan. but the problems are all over the world, including britain getting a fair story written in. and she's she reads newspaper. she's interested. i think she's changed his attitude towards the press . i think she's felt to us press. i think she's felt to us be warm towards her. and the press has grown to love her and i think she's saying it'll be all right. and as a former nottonot— ” 3“. and as a former national newspaper, too, you wttn— national newspaper, too, you wttt to— national newspaper, too, you will be able— national newspaper, too, you will be able to— national newspaper, too, you will be able to confirm just how tnnonont— will be able to confirm just how important-this- will be able to confirm just how important-this new- important it is for this new ttno— important it is for this new ttnolnowo— important it is for this new ttnolnowo o— important it is for this new king have a good relationship king to have a good relationship wttn—o— king to have a good relationship with—a necessary. with the press. it's a necessary own.— with the press. it's a necessary own-noo— with the press. it's a necessary evil..has.accept- with the press. it's a necessary evil. has accept the role evil. he has to accept the role of evil. he has to accept the role ot tno— evil. he has to accept the role ot tno proso— evil. he has to accept the role of the press in— evil. he has to accept the role of the press in his— evil. he has to accept the role of the press in his monarchy, in his of the press in his monarchy, in no roton. — of the press in his monarchy, in no roton. t— of the press in his monarchy, in his reign. i think— of the press in his monarchy, in his reign. i think he's- of the press in his monarchy, in his reign. i think he's he's always had to i mean, even in the days, he just had to the bad old days, he just had to accept it. but of course, we're now in the sunny uplands. look at all these people in the
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at all these people here in the mall for this. let's mall waiting for this. let's hope well . i think hope tomorrow goes well. i think he's he's always had problems with people not seeing his point of view, but so many of his points of view have turned out to be true. like climate change, like your garden, like like talk to your garden, like don't crap fertiliser on don't put crap fertiliser on things in, you know, farms. he's he's actually some of the things people used to think were mad horrible architecture they're all right at the top of our list aren't they. although on those matters does he now need to wind his neck in as monarch and will he. imean his neck in as monarch and will he. i mean he has but it's been otoot— he. i mean he has but it's been otoot ton— he. i mean he has but it's been about ten minutes— i mean he has but it's been about ten minutes eve. no, it's toon— about ten minutes eve. no, it's toon otoot— about ten minutes eve. no, it's been about eight— about ten minutes eve. no, it's been about eight sustain that, of been about eight sustain that, ot-tntnt— been about eight sustain that, of-think-sustainl of course i think he'll sustain ttot— of course i think he'll sustain tnotlnrotottw— of course i think he'll sustain that-probably talk- of course i think he'll sustain that. .probably talk to - of course i think he'll sustain. that. .probably talk to prince that. it probably talk to prince william would you have a william and say would you have a go about this because he's in the position that he was in prince you have prince of wales. you can have a little go. well tom bower, let's talk about that. is there a donor— talk about that. is there a tonoor tnot— talk about that. is there a danger that charles- is there a danger that charles will use the rrtnoo— danger that charles will use the rrtnoolttotoo— danger that charles will use the prince .wales ,_ danger that charles will use the princeiwales , his— danger that charles will use the prince wales , his son prince of wales, his son wit...— prince of wales, his son william, to— prince of wales, his son william, to do- prince of wales, his son william, to do his dirty work ont— william, to do his dirty work ont to— william, to do his dirty work and to pursue— william, to do his dirty work and to pursue the net zero agenda?— and to pursue the net zero agenda? people might and to pursue the net zero- agenda?-people might think agenda? some people might think tnot-o— agenda? some people might think mots—go.— agenda? some people might think tnot-o—oo. tot- agenda? some people might think that's—go, but it's- that's the way to go, but it's worw— that's the way to go, but it's very politically—
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that's the way to go, but it's very politically contentious. tt-o— very politically contentious. it's scientifically it's even scientifically tototot.— it's even scientifically debated. but is there a risk tnot— debated. but is there a risk that charles— debated. but is there a risk that charles politicises william trott— that charles politicises william war, t— that charles politicises william war, t con— that charles politicises william war, t to— that charles politicises william well, i can be too— that charles politicises william well, i can be too late for tnot. — well, i can be too late for tnot. t— well, i can be too late for that. i mean,— well, i can be too late for that. �*ftw�* -- well, i can be too late for that. ~ a well, i can be too late for that. -- that. i mean, william is a completely different animal to charles. i mean, charles studied that from a very young age on. and i think william is an interested in taking up his father's causes as he wants his own causes. he wants his own charities. so i think that what i think more likely is that charles will win. the honeymoon is over, begin trying to influence politicians and people again. i don't think he'll be able to resist. he'll summon people to buckingham palace, to clarence house, to highgrove and try and urge them to follow his views , as he did in the past views, as he did in the past about fox hunting, natural medicines , a whole slew of medicines, a whole slew of issues which were he was completely wrong to try and get involved. so you think he won't be involved. so you think he won't to otto— involved. so you think he won't to onto-noto— involved. so you think he won't be able-help himself- : so you think he won't be able help himself in 2018? be able to help himself in 2018? he be able to help himself in 2018? no wo— be able to help himself in 2018? he was interviewed and said, toot.— he was interviewed and said, toot. wnon— he was interviewed and said, look, when i'm— he was interviewed and said, look, when i'm king, i'm not otontot— look, when i'm king, i'm not otopttlwon-t— look, when i'm king, i'm not stupid.iwon't be- look, when i'm king, i'm not stupid. won't be political. stupid. i won't be political. i wont— stupid. i won't be political. i wont to— stupid. i won't be political. i wont to tno— stupid. i won't be political. i won't be the campaigning king, i wont— won't be the campaigning king, i wont to— won't be the campaigning king, i wont to tno— won't be the campaigning king, i won't be the meddler or the nottton —
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won't be the meddler or the meddler. right.— won't be the meddler or the meddler. right. but you're not nowtno— meddler. right. but you're not nowtno ttot— meddler. right. but you're not having that. you— meddler. right. but you're not having that. you think that owontoottw— having that. you think that eventually he'll return form? having that. you think that ew:wiw“ .ally he'll return form? having that. you think that ew:wiw“ . we'll return form? having that. you think that- edon't think he return .form? having that. you think that- edon't think he canirnlform? having that. you think that- edon't think he canirn.fothis i don't think he can change his spots. the end, he's spots. i think in the end, he's getting he's got getting older. i think he's got a getting older. i think he's got owtoor wtto— getting older. i think he's got a wiser wife now.— getting older. i think he's got a wiser wife now. i— gig. “g : i think he's got a wiser wife now. i think that otoo.— a wiser wife now. i think that otoo. to.— a wiser wife now. i think that otoo. to. t— a wiser wife now. i think that also. no, i mean,— a wiser wife now. i think that also. no, i mean, net zero, of to on— also. no, i mean, net zero, of course, is sort of— also. no, i mean, net zero, of course, is sort of an idea that , course, is sort of an idea that . oo woo— course, is sort of an idea that . oo woo oow— course, is sort of an idea that . oo woo oow. to— course, is sort of an idea that , as you say, is now being onottonoot— , as you say, is now being challenged in— , as you say, is now being challenged in various ways. but too— challenged in various ways. but too no-o— challenged in various ways. but too no-o ooot— challenged in various ways. but he's he's cast his— challenged in various ways. but he's he's cast his stone. he'll do he's he's cast his stone. he'll to otnor— he's he's cast his stone. he'll do other things— he's he's cast his stone. he'll do other things .— he's he's cast his stone. he'll do other things . he's going to do other things. he's going to noto— do other things. he's going to two to— do other things. he's going to two to trw— do other things. he's going to have to try and— do other things. he's going to have to try and keep the commonwealth, not just the 14 roornot— commonwealth, not just the 14 roornot tot— commonwealth, not just the 14 realms, but these _ commonwealth, not just the 14 realms, but these 56 countries tnot— realms, but these 56 countries tnot oto— realms, but these 56 countries that are involved— realms, but these 56 countries that are involved in this commonwealth. it's going to have a commonwealth. it's going to have o tot— commonwealth. it's going to have o tot otoo— commonwealth. it's going to have o tot otoo to— commonwealth. it's going to have a lot else to do.— commonwealth. it's going to have a lot else to do. _ commonwealth. it's going to have a lot else to do. do— commonwealth. it's going to have a lot else to do. jwiw a lot else to do. do you think that there'll be some degree of partnership between the king and the queen and the prince and princess of wales that they're almost the fab four? well almost the new fab four? well the problem nowadays is it's all about optics. and of course, rrtnoo— about optics. and of course, rrtnoo tno— about optics. and of course, prince the prince— wt»; and of course, prince the prince and princess of prince the prince and princess ot trotoo— prince the prince and princess ot trotoo toot— prince the prince and princess of wales just look young, look otonorooo— of wales just look young, look otonorooo .— of wales just look young, look glamorous , look— of wales just look young, look glamorous , look fashionable. and glamorous, look fashionable. and nooo-o— glamorous, look fashionable. and noro-o o— glamorous, look fashionable. and here's a man in— glamorous, look fashionable. and here's a man in his— glamorous, look fashionable. and here's a man in his 70s. this is tno— here's a man in his 70s. this is two problem-— here's a man in his 70s. this is the problem. when— here's a man in his 70s. this is the problem. when you get older, woo-tn— the problem. when you get older, woo-tn toorn— the problem. when you get older, you'll learn about— the problem. when you get older, you'll learn about this. mark 5 you'll learn about this. mark > not.— you'll learn about this. mark > not won.— you'll learn about this. mark > well, yeah, you've— you'll learn about this. mark > well, yeah, you've got- you'll learn about this. mark 5 well, yeah, you've got you've got some particularly gorgeous children. i see the problem. children. so i see the problem. but but i mean, that's in the
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end, these two william strikes me as naturally loyal to his father . i me as naturally loyal to his father. i think that's unlike perhaps his brother and kate, the dutiful princess. so do you think that it's going to be a good relationship, that foursome 7 good relationship, that foursome ? because i think that charles, if he's right, particularly given his age, will deploy them to some of the heavy lifting to do some of the heavy lifting . ithink to do some of the heavy lifting . i think he will. but i think i tntnt— . i think he will. but i think i think there's— i think he will. but i think i think there's enough heavy tttttno— think there's enough heavy tttttno tor— think there's enough heavy lifting for all— think there's enough heavy lifting for all of them to go noon-t — lifting for all of them to go noon-t t— lifting for all of them to go round. i think— lifting for all of them to go round. i think charles round. i think that charles tnowo— round. i think that charles tnowo-oot- round. i think that charles knows-got to- round. i think that charles knows got to be knows that he's got to be oorotot. — knows that he's got to be oorotot. t— knows that he's got to be careful. i mean, he did that oroot— careful. i mean, he did that oroot oto— careful. i mean, he did that oroot big tntno— careful. i mean, he did that great big thing about inviting oworwtotw— great big thing about inviting oworwtotw-oon- great big thing about inviting everybody cop meeting and everybody to the cop meeting and tnow— everybody to the cop meeting and tnow ott— everybody to the cop meeting and tnow ott tornot— everybody to the cop meeting and they all turned up.— everybody to the cop meeting and they all turned up. and of tnow— they all turned up. and of course they will. he's king. no-o— course they will. he's king. no-o tn— course they will. he's king. he's in charge— course they will. he's king. he's in charge ish. but i mean, tno— he's in charge ish. but i mean, two toot— he's in charge ish. but i mean, two toot to— he's in charge ish. but i mean, two toot to t— he's in charge ish. but i mean, the fact is, i think— he's in charge ish. but i mean, the fact is, i think william's 90t— the fact is, i think william's got no— the fact is, i think william's got no on— the fact is, i think william's got his own ideas. i agree with ton.— got his own ideas. i agree with torn. tttttton— got his own ideas. i agree with tom. william will— got his own ideas. i agree with tom. william will do what he wonto— tom. william will do what he wonto to— tom. william will do what he wonto to to. — tom. william will do what he wants to do. the— tom. william will do what he wants to do. the earthshot the tntnoo— wants to do. the earthshot the tntnoo tnot— wants to do. the earthshot the things that he's— wants to do. the earthshot the things that he's interested in. non— things that he's interested in. tnon noo— things that he's interested in. tnon no-o got— things that he's interested in. then he's got grandchildren. you tnow.— then he's got grandchildren. you know woo— then he's got grandchildren. you know, you blink— then he's got grandchildren. you know, you blink and william will be know, you blink and william will to to— know, you blink and william will to to ont— know, you blink and william will be 19 and he'll— know, you blink and william will be 19 and he'll take over doing ttttoront— be 19 and he'll take over doing different things— be 19 and he'll take over doing different things that he's interested— different things that he's interested in. jwiw different things that he's- interested in. do you think that the king has some kind of plan ?
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the king has some kind of plan? do you think? you know, presidents, when they enter the white house, they have the first 100 i mean, do you think 100 days? i mean, do you think that charles has got a plan? i think had plan to just think he had a plan to just somehow reassure this country after of his mother, after the death of his mother, because we adored her. and because we all adored her. and she an amazing because we all adored her. and she-an amazing job.- because we all adored her. and she-an amazing job. and. because we all adored her. and she-an amazing job. and i. she did an amazing job. and i tntnt— she did an amazing job. and i tntnt-tono— she did an amazing job. and i think-done it— she did an amazing job. and i think done it quite well. think he's done it quite well. ano— think he's done it quite well. ant wnot— think he's done it quite well. and what about— think he's done it quite well. and what about his— think he's done it quite well. and what about his pr?- think he's done it quite well. and what about his pr? 1. think he's done it quite well. and what about his pr? i mean, do you think the public like charles or are they just grudgingly accepting him ? is he grudgingly accepting him? is he still in the honeymoon period? i think been in the think he has been in the honeymoon . it depends. i honeymoon period. it depends. i tntnt— honeymoon period. it depends. i tntnt noonto— honeymoon period. it depends. i tntnt noonto-to— honeymoon period. it depends. i think people-be quite- think people will be quite tnnroooot— think people will be quite- impressed _tomorrow. impressed possibly by tomorrow. i impressed possibly by tomorrow. t ton-t— impressed possibly by tomorrow. t ton-t tntnt— impressed possibly by tomorrow. i don't think people realise how ttworoo— i don't think people realise how ttworoo .— i don't think people realise how ttworoo . now— i don't think people realise how diverse , how amazing of the diverse, how amazing some of the noonto— diverse, how amazing some of the noopto oto— diverse, how amazing some of the people wno— diverse, how amazing some of the people wno oto— diverse, how amazing some of the people are who are coming. i tnoro— people are who are coming. i mean, there was— people are who are coming. i mean, there was a wonderful boy on—not— mean, there was a wonderful boy on—not notnot- on the radio who had helped otnor— on the radio who had helped other—victims- on the radio who had helped. other—victims when on the radio who had helped- other_victims when he other leukaemia victims when he ntnoott— other leukaemia victims when he ntnoott woo— other leukaemia victims when he himself was ill— other leukaemia victims when he himself was ill and— other leukaemia victims when he himself was ill and he's been ootoottw— himself was ill and he's been actually invited— himself was ill and he's been actually invited .— himself was ill and he's been actually invited . he is not from actually invited. he is not from actually invited. he is not from otwntoot— actually invited. he is not from otwntoot wntto— actually invited. he is not from a typical white british background- a typical white british background and he's coming tornonow t— background and he's coming tomorrow, i think they've played this coronation— tomorrow, i think they've played this coronation rather cleverly. tntoot— this coronation rather cleverly. tntoot — this coronation rather cleverly. tntoot ton — this coronation rather cleverly. indeed tom bower,- this coronation rather cleverly. indeed tom bower, let's talk about its interesting that eve mentioned diversity there, and that was something that was
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notable during the very sad funeral for the queen is the very diverse population that queued up to pay their respects to the queen, which rather destroys the narrative that britain is some kind of racist hellhole . we are a global beacon hellhole. we are a global beacon of diversity, and it was demonstrated at the queen's funeral. will we see it again tomorrow? we will. and i think , tomorrow? we will. and i think, you tomorrow? we will. and i think, woo tnow.— tomorrow? we will. and i think, you know, especially— 7 �*thw�*wi; -- and i think, you know, especially because cnortoo— you know, especially because cnortoo to— you know, especially because charles, to his— you know, especially because charles, to his credit, has rooonot— charles, to his credit, has reached out— charles, to his credit, has reached out to- charles, to his credit, has reached out to all the different rottotono— reached out to all the different religions hindus,— reached out to all the different religions hindus, sikhs , religions hindus, sikhs, noottno— religions hindus, sikhs, muslims, jews, everyone. he's got— muslims, jews, everyone. he's gottnon— muslims, jews, everyone. he's got them participating got them all participating tomorrow . but got them all participating tomorrow. but i think as well, you— tomorrow. but i think as well, woo tnow.— tomorrow. but i think as well, woo tnow. tn— tomorrow. but i think as well, you know, in the— tomorrow. but i think as well, you know, in the end, we are a toronoon— you know, in the end, we are a european nation— you know, in the end, we are a european nation and i don't tottovo— european nation and i don't tottovo no— european nation and i don't believe he is— european nation and i don't believe he is going to play this oon— believe he is going to play this oon ot— believe he is going to play this oon ot woto— believe he is going to play this sort of woke diversity card. i tntnt— sort of woke diversity card. i tntnt tnoro— sort of woke diversity card. i think there was— sort of woke diversity card. i think there was too much fuss otoot— think there was too much fuss otoot nto— think there was too much fuss about his saying,— think there was too much fuss about his saying, well, research ont— about his saying, well, research and reparations— about his saying, well, research and reparations .— about his saying, well, research and reparations . i— about his saying, well, research and reparations . i mean, why he and reparations. i mean, why he oon-t— and reparations. i mean, why he oon-t oow— and reparations. i mean, why he oon-t oow ton-t— and reparations. i mean, why he can't say don't research it, but he can't say don't research it, but no tooon-t— can't say don't research it, but he doesn't mean— can't say don't research it, but he doesn't mean actually going tolonwtntno— he doesn't mean actually going to anything actually to do anything which is actually going— to do anything which is actually ootnoloot— to do anything which is actually ootnoloot-tno- going to act against the tntorooto— going to act against the interests of— going to act against the interests of britain. and the interests of britain. and in the ont— interests of britain. and in the end ,_ interests of britain. and in the ont ltnow— interests of britain. and in the end ,-know,-truth- interests of britain. and in the end , know, truth is that end, you know, the truth is that tomorrow-to— end, you know, the truth is that tomorrow-belunion- end, you know, the truth is that tomorrow be union of all tomorrow will be a union of all nrttono. — tomorrow will be a union of all nrttono. ant— tomorrow will be a union of all nrttono. ant t— tomorrow will be a union of all britons. and i don't think we onoott— britons. and i don't think we should allow— britons. and i don't think we should allow the _ britons. and i don't think we should allow the republicans and the should allow the republicans and two ont— should allow the republicans and
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the anti britons,— should allow the republicans and the anti britons, britons and tno— the anti britons, britons and two tott— the anti britons, britons and two tott ont— the anti britons, britons and the left and all— the anti britons, britons and the left and all the rest of it to torott— the left and all the rest of it to derail what— the left and all the rest of it to derail what in— the left and all the rest of it to derail what in the sense is tno— to derail what in the sense is to noon— to derail what in the sense is to noon ot— to derail what in the sense is the heart of this— to derail what in the sense is the heart of this country, which is the heart of this country, which to o— the heart of this country, which to o nonorotw— the heart of this country, which is a monarchy, belief in is a monarchy, a belief in tonooroow— is a monarchy, a belief in tonooroow. o— is a monarchy, a belief in democracy, a liberal democracy, a democracy, a liberal democracy, ototoront— democracy, a liberal democracy, a tolerant democracy , but in the a tolerant democracy, but in the end:— a tolerant democracy, but in the ont. o— a tolerant democracy, but in the ont. o ooontrw— a tolerant democracy, but in the end, a country which is not a oootottot— end, a country which is not a socialist claptrap_ end, a country which is not a socialist claptrap , communist socialist claptrap, communist ottttoo— socialist claptrap, communist ottttoo. tot— socialist claptrap, communist edifice, but is— socialist claptrap, communist edifice, but is a— socialist claptrap, communist edifice, but is a capitalist ooontrw— edifice, but is a capitalist ooontrw. o— edifice, but is a capitalist country, a compassionate ooontrw— country, a compassionate ooontrw. ant— country, a compassionate country. and i— country, a compassionate country. and i think charles noroontttoo— country. and i think charles personifies that— country. and i think charles personifies that the best way he tno— personifies that the best way he can. the problem— personifies that the best way he can. the problem is in his life tnot— can. the problem is in his life no no-o— can. the problem is in his life that he's often— can. the problem is in his life that he's often acted against tno— that he's often acted against the interests— that he's often acted against the interests of— that he's often acted against the interests of both the nonoronw— the interests of both the monarchy and - the interests of both the monarchy and the country by totno— monarchy and the country by being going— monarchy and the country by being going ott— monarchy and the country by being going off on his own hobby noo — being going off on his own hobby horses. hence,— being going off on his own hobby horses. hence, hence- being going off on his own hobby horses. t t being going off on his own hobby horses. . horses. hence, hence the title of the book being rebel king. previously rebel prince because he wanted to change britain, but often in his own image and the question really is if he has a weak prime minister, if he has an establishment that doesn't know where they're going, i think charles will instinctively try to influence the direction of britain , and that's when it of britain, and that's when it becomes possibly dangerous . becomes possibly dangerous. well, it's very interesting because i've been obviously swotting up on on charles as prince of wales before becoming
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king. and there was one suggestion from one of the books that i was reading that actually if had been king when if charles had been king when tony blair sort agreement permission sign off to do the iraq war, that he'd have had much more of a grilling from charles than he did from queen elizabeth and from the leader of the opposition at the time. i mean, the truth is that, cnortoo— mean, the truth is that, charles, many- mean, the truth is that, charles, many other military noonto— charles, many other military people tnow— charles, many other military people tnow .— charles, many other military people knew , as— charles, many other military people knew , as did the chief of people knew, as did the chief of otott— people knew, as did the chief of staff, michael— people knew, as did the chief of staff, michael boyce , said to staff, michael boyce, said to ntotr— staff, michael boyce, said to not ot— staff, michael boyce, said to blair at that— staff, michael boyce, said to blair at that time , you can't do blair at that time, you can't do it. blair at that time, you can't do tt. ant— blair at that time, you can't do tt. ant t— blair at that time, you can't do tt. ant t ooroo— blair at that time, you can't do it. and i agree with you on ttot— it. and i agree with you on tnot. no— it. and i agree with you on that. he might— it. and i agree with you on that. he might well have taken far that. he might well have taken to donor— that. he might well have taken far greater interest, but we ton-t— far greater interest, but we ton-t tnow— far greater interest, but we don't know what the queen said. tnooo— don't know what the queen said. those conversations are quite ortwoto— those conversations are quite nrwoto ont— those conversations are quite nrwoto ont ono— those conversations are quite private and she was no pushover ont— private and she was no pushover ont oto— private and she was no pushover ont ono woo— private and she was no pushover and she was not. _ private and she was no pushover and she was not. “ wi“w: and she was not. but in the end, well, i mean, look at her, she advised, i think somebody in the middle of the talks trying to sort go and see sort out ireland, go and see varadkar. i mean, i think the queen much more influential queen was much more influential than we know, it was than we know, but it was a different way of doing things. she was a different age and we didn't find out what was going on. bet charles gives the on. i bet charles gives the prime minister a much bigger
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grilling . well, we know that grilling. well, we know that wnon— grilling. well, we know that wnon-woo— grilling. well, we know that when-was prime- g” -- “3 well, we know that when was prime minister, when blair was prime minister, he when blair was prime minister, no-nort— when blair was prime minister, no-nort-oni he tried very hard to argue on tonott— he tried very hard to argue on tonott-arnw— he tried very hard to argue on behalf-army on- he tried very hard to argue on behalf army on behalf of behalf of the army on behalf of tnooo— behalf of the army on behalf of tnooo ton.— behalf of the army on behalf of these fish, these— behalf of the army on behalf of these fish, these birds, all oono— these fish, these birds, all oorto ot— these fish, these birds, all sorts of equipment problems. the onttor— sorts of equipment problems. the onttor tottoro— sorts of equipment problems. the spider letters in— sorts of equipment problems. the spider letters in fact, the onttor— spider letters in fact, the spider letters _ spider letters in fact, the spider letters show that he was now— spider letters show that he was very concerned. _ spider letters show that he was very concerned. yes, he wasn't tntortortno. — very concerned. yes, he wasn't interfering. and— very concerned. yes, he wasn't interfering. and i— very concerned. yes, he wasn't interfering. and i think that he wtt— interfering. and i think that he will challenge.— interfering. and i think that he will challenge. the question is wnotnor— will challenge. the question is wnotnor no— will challenge. the question is whether he knows boundary whether he knows the boundary tnot— whether he knows the boundary tnot-no— whether he knows the boundary tnot-no on— whether he knows the boundary that he an egomaniac? that is, is he an egomaniac? i noon—tnot- that is, is he an egomaniac? ii mean,_think about mean, what do you think about that? i don't think i don't tntnt— that? i don't think i don't tntnt no-o— that? i don't think i don't think he's an— .“et.7 i don't think i don't think he's an egomaniac at all. i think he's an egomaniac at all. t noon— think he's an egomaniac at all. t noon-no— think he's an egomaniac at all. i mean,_his finger- think he's an egomaniac at all. i mean, his finger about i mean, wagging his finger about rnoornt— i mean, wagging his finger about notorn—nol modern architecture, who is he to tott— modern architecture, who is he to tell architecture what our ottw— to tell architecture what our ottw onoott— to tell architecture what our city should look— to tell architecture what our city should look like? nimbyism is city should look like? nimbyism to-nttoooo— city should look like? nimbyism is-hideous flats- city should look like? nimbyism is hideous flats have is because hideous flats have toon— is because hideous flats have toon tott— is because hideous flats have been built cheaply and whatever . ant— been built cheaply and whatever . ant oo— been built cheaply and whatever . ant oo noonto— been built cheaply and whatever . and so people say, we don't wont— . and so people say, we don't wont tnot— . and so people say, we don't wont tnot tn— . and so people say, we don't want that in our— . and so people say, we don't want that in our backyard. aotoottw— want that in our backyard. actually, there _ want that in our backyard. actually, there should be various competitions . people various competitions. people onoott— various competitions. people onoott to— various competitions. people should be asked— various competitions. people should be asked what they would like should be asked what they would ttto tn— should be asked what they would ttto tn tnot— should be asked what they would like in their backyard. we might tott— like in their backyard. we might tottt o— like in their backyard. we might tottt o tow— like in their backyard. we might build a few more— like in their backyard. we might build a few more houses. well, tn —tnot- i'm delighted to say that eve rottort— i'm delighted to say that eve rottort ont— i'm delighted to say that eve pollard and tom— i'm delighted to say that eve pollard and tom bower return in just pollard and tom bower return in toot o— pollard and tom bower return in toot o ooonto— pollard and tom bower return in toot o ooopto ot— pollard and tom bower return in just a couple of minutes. but not— just a couple of minutes. but next on.— just a couple of minutes. but not on to— just a couple of minutes. but not on wt to— just a couple of minutes. but next up, i'll be asking the former top military man, ben objekte could environmental protesters spoil the party
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tomorrow? plus, the importance of the military to king charles. and will the coronation unite the united kingdom ? you're the united kingdom? you're watching mark dolan tonight live from buckingham palace. don't forget my big opinion and my take at ten are on the way. but here's me mingling with the great british public. what kind of king do you think charles will be? i think i'll be a good king-— will be? i think i'll be a good king- tot-o— will be? i think i'll be a good king. let's face— will be? i think i'll be a good king. let's face it.— -- inwi7 i think i'll be a good king. let's face it. it's had nonw— king. let's face it. it's had nonw. nonw— king. let's face it. it's had many, many years watching his totno— many, many years watching his totno o— many, many years watching his mum doing a great job after all of mum doing a great job after all ot tnot— mum doing a great job after all of that, waiting— mum doing a great job after all of that, waiting in— mum doing a great job after all of that, waiting in the wings. noon.— of that, waiting in the wings. noon. no-o— of that, waiting in the wings. yeah, he's had— of that, waiting in the wings. yeah, he's had a— of that, waiting in the wings. yeah, he's had a lot of time to tntnt— yeah, he's had a lot of time to tntnt onoot— yeah, he's had a lot of time to think about it. _ yeah, he's had a lot of time to think about it. my- yeah, he's had a lot of time to think about it. tin ”wi; nitii; think about it. my parents are from the british so from the british caribbean, so i am also a british citizen and so this is like coming home and representing our family as well. i think he has an incredible sense of duty to the country. a deep sense of what the job entails, as well as to be a great, you know, figurehead and monarch for all of the british territory .
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britain is watching. well, it is the britain is watching.- - well, it is the coronation coonttown.— . well, it is the coronation countdown. welcome- - well, it is the coronation- countdown. welcome-dolan countdown. welcome to mark dolan tontont— countdown. welcome to mark dolan tontont .— countdown. welcome to mark dolan tontont . tron— countdown. welcome to mark dolan tontont . tron on— countdown. welcome to mark dolan tonight . from an increasingly tonight. from an increasingly ttootorw— tonight. from an increasingly ttootorw ooo— tonight. from an increasingly blustery sea. buckingham palace and blustery sea. buckingham palace ont tot-o— blustery sea. buckingham palace ont tot-o toot— blustery sea. buckingham palace and let's head to— blustery sea. buckingham palace and let's head to the mall now ont— and let's head to the mall now ont noon— and let's head to the mall now and hear about— and let's head to the mall now and hear about the final preparations— and hear about the final preparations from our brilliant nottonot— preparations from our brilliant national reporter, paul hawkins. hi, national reporter, paul hawkins. nt. root— national reporter, paul hawkins. no not . — national reporter, paul hawkins. hi, paul . yeah,— national reporter, paul hawkins. hi, paul . yeah, hi,— national reporter, paul hawkins. hi, paul . 4 “ . hi, paul. yeah, hi, mark. it's down here. it's pretty blustery as well. in fact, the rain is just starting to fall. there was no rain forecast. and then that horrible cloud up there hoved into view and then everyone started kind reassessing the started kind of reassessing the situation. and they've been putting like these two putting on coats like these two ladies here. and just show ladies here. and let's just show everyone your union jack suit because i know you're very proud of it. we're very proud it. of it. we're very proud of it. very proud. there you go. look at very proud. there you go. look ot tnot— very proud. there you go. look at that brilliant, _ very proud. there you go. look at that brilliant, marvellous stuff . great, stuff. we're stuff. great, great stuff. we're about come from. about to have you come from. we're from oxford. all right. otow— we're from oxford. all right. okay here. you okay and you've been here. you got today ? yes, we did.
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got here today? yes, we did. yes. got here today? yes, we did. voo. otoo— got here today? yes, we did. yes. 2:00 this— gitw. “wi;”wi; :7 yes, we did. yes. 2:00 this afternoon. gi. “wi”wi; :7 yes, we did. yes. 2:00 this afternoon. how nono— yes. 2:00 this afternoon. how nowo woo— yes. 2:00 this afternoon. how have you found— yes. 2:00 this afternoon. how have you found today? cj“ have you found today? oh, otootototw— have you found today? oh, absolutely wonderful. the atmosphere and just everybody's been so lovely . arnie. really been so lovely. arnie. really towotw— been so lovely. arnie. really towotw. a— been so lovely. arnie. really lovely. a lovely,— t“ arnie. really lovely. a lovely, lovely atmosphere _ lovely. a lovely, lovely atmosphere .- lovely. a lovely, lovely atmosphere . yeah. i've never atmosphere. yeah. i've never toon— atmosphere. yeah. i've never boon to— atmosphere. yeah. i've never been to anything— atmosphere. yeah. i've never been to anything like this totoro. — been to anything like this before. what— been to anything like this before. �*thjnij. been to anything like this before. been to anything like this- before. what was what was the bit? there have been various dignitaries, but. and various people mall , people walking along the mall, shaking hands with public. shaking hands with the public. who favourite ? well, who was your favourite? well, it's to be king charles, it's got to be king charles, hasn't it really . yes. yeah, hasn't it really. yes. yeah, it's hasn't it really. yes. yeah, tt-o tot— hasn't it really. yes. yeah, tt-o got to— hasn't it really. yes. yeah, tt-o got to to. — hasn't it really. yes. yeah, it's got to be. yeah.- . . ”witnij-gw yes. yeah, it's got to be. yeah. as far as unfortunately— it's got to be. yeah. as far as unfortunately as— it's got to be. yeah. as far as unfortunately as far as halfway otono— unfortunately as far as halfway otono tno— unfortunately as far as halfway along the mall.— unfortunately as far as halfway along the mall. but he didn't get along the mall. but he didn't ootloo— along the mall. but he didn't ootloo. so— along the mall. but he didn't get us. so fortunately get to us. so fortunately toooo— get to us. so fortunately because and— get to us. so fortunately because and then he went, got in the because and then he went, got in tnoioo— because and then he went, got in tnoiooitnow— because and then he went, got in tnoiooitnow-onl because and then he went, got ini the-so.knew-up the the car so we knew he was up the otnor— the car so we knew he was up the otnor ont. — the car so we knew he was up the otnor ont. not— the car so we knew he was up the other end. but we— the car so we knew he was up the other end. w: w: t“ . other end. but we didn't, we didn't get to see it. but he did wave. didn't get to see it. but he did noon.— didn't get to see it. but he did wave. yeah.-car. - didn't get to see it. but he did wave. yeah.-car. yeah. i wave. yeah. from a car. yeah. so.— wave. yeah. from a car. yeah. so-wto— wave. yeah. from a car. yeah. so-wno oto— wave. yeah. from a car. yeah. so-wno woo- wave. yeah. from a car. yeah. so.-who are you here- wave. yeah. from a car. yeah. i so.-who are you here with? so. and who are you here with? because i know that i've spoken to lot of people here that met to a lot of people here that met at the funeral of queen that at the funeral of the queen that have now reunited for the coronation. you coronation. have you have you know, four friends know, we're just four friends that up from oxford. that have come up from oxford. yes, friends. what's yes, very good friends. what's so yes, very good friends. what's oo—tto— yes, very good friends. what's oo—tto towot- yes, very good friends. what's so the royal family? so great about the royal family? because it because a lot of people say it costs a lot of money. tradition, isn't it?- tradition, isn't it? it's tradition. - tradition, isn't it? it's tradition. yin; tradition, isn't it? it's- tradition. yes. history. history yeah. history. yes. yes. and
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what yeah. history. yes. yes. and wnot-toottno- yeah. history. yes. yes. andi what-looking forward yeah. history. yes. yes. and- what-looking forward to what are you looking forward to tomorrow— what are you looking forward to tomorrow? most— what are you looking forward to tomorrow? most of— what are you looking forward to tomorrow? most of all, because tnoro-o— tomorrow? most of all, because tnoro-o-to— tomorrow? most of all, because tnoro-o-to o- tomorrow? most of all, because there's-be a lot- tomorrow? most of all, because there's-be a lot of- there's going to be a lot of oton— there's going to be a lot of otott- — there's going to be a lot of stuff- there- there's going to be a lot of stuff- there is.- there's going to be a lot of. stuff- there is. there there's going to be a lot of- stuff- there is. there is stuff to see. there is. there is everything. everything. really? yeah. all the. the finery, yeah. yeah all the. the finery, the dresses , everything. yeah. the dresses, everything. yeah. yeah. what about that gold carriage? yeah. oh, absolutely . carriage? yeah. oh, absolutely. yest— carriage? yeah. oh, absolutely. woo. woo. — carriage? yeah. oh, absolutely. woo. woo. trott— carriage? yeah. oh, absolutely. yes, yes. would you— wt.5j”” rijgit7’ yeah. oh, absolutely. yin; «tilt? would you like. would yes, yes. would you like. would you yes, yes. would you like. would woo ttto— yes, yes. would you like. would woo ttto to— yes, yes. would you like. would you like to ride— yes, yes. would you like. would you like to ride in— yin; «tilt? would you like. would you like to ride in the gold carriage? — you like to ride in the gold carriage? t carriage? because here the suspension dodgy. suspension is pretty dodgy. needs carriage. needs a service. gold carriage. noon. — needs a service. gold carriage. noon. to— needs a service. gold carriage. noon. tt nono— needs a service. gold carriage. yeah. i'd love to.— needs a service. gold carriage. yeah. i'd love to. yeah,- nw: wt.wi; gold carriage. yeah. i'd love to. yeah, i don't ntnt— yeah. i'd love to. yeah, i don't ntnt. noon.— yeah. i'd love to. yeah, i don't mind. yeah, just— yeah. i'd love to. yeah, i don't mind. yeah, just the once. just tno— mind. yeah, just the once. just two — mind. yeah, just the once. just the once. yeah.— mind. yeah, just the once. just the once. yeah. yeah t t“ the once. yeah. yeah > the rain otortot— the once. yeah. yeah > the rain started. the rain starting to fall you guys going to fall now. are you guys going to be in a tent overnight be staying in a tent overnight or. got our or. we've got, we've got our onotro— or. we've got, we've got our onotro totno— or. we've got, we've got our chairs doing the— we've got, we've got our chairs doing the sleeping in onotro— chairs doing the sleeping ini onotro—ton-t chairs thing as well. i don't tnow—to- chairs thing as well. i don'ti tnow—to to chairs thing as well. i don't- know _to do it. know how you're going to do it. sleeping bag. we've a bin sleeping bag. we've got a bin tnot— sleeping bag. we've got a bin ttnor ont— sleeping bag. we've got a bin ttnor ont-oot- sleeping bag. we've got a bin liner and got umbrellas liner and we've got umbrellas ont— liner and we've got umbrellas ont toot— liner and we've got umbrellas and we've just got our our trtonto— and we've just got our our trtonto ow— and we've just got our our friends, our, you know, our and oon—wot- friends, our, you know, our and oon—wont to- friends, our, you know, our and| our—we'll be fine our prosecco. and we'll be fine ont— our prosecco. and we'll be fine ont woo-nt— our prosecco. and we'll be fine ont woo-ttlott— our prosecco. and we'll be fine and you'll all right. �*7 and you'll be all right. even if it and you'll be all right. even if tt rotno— and you'll be all right. even if tt uto— and you'll be all right. even if it rains like it— and you'll be all right. even if it rains like it is starting to now. well we just have to. we're going to grin now. well we just have to. i we're going to grin-bear now. well we just have to. - we're going to grin-bear it. we're going to grin and bear it. wto-ro— we're going to grin and bear it. woo-now— we're going to grin and bear it. wo-ro-now .— we're going to grin and bear it. we're-now . that's- we're going to grin and bear it. we're now . that's it. yeah. we're here now. that's it. yeah. ant— we're here now. that's it. yeah. antlwoo— we're here now. that's it. yeah. antlwoo-tnto— we're here now. that's it. yeah. and you this wasn't and as you say, this wasn't toroooot— and as you say, this wasn't forecast. no.— and as you say, this wasn't forecast. no. and we've looked on-nnonoo— forecast. no. and we've looked on-phones several- forecast. no. and we've looked on phones several times and on our phones several times and it . on our phones several times and tt—. so— on our phones several times and tt—. so not-
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it wasn't forecast. so not quite otoo-count— it wasn't forecast. so not quite sure.-could be— it wasn't forecast. so not quite sure.-could be just- it wasn't forecast. so not quite sure. could be just a sure. this could be just a ttttto— sure. this could be just a little-and- sure. this could be just a little -and then. little shower. and then hopefullv_ little shower. and then noootottw-o- little shower. and then hopefully a lovely hopefully it'll be a lovely ovontno. — hopefully it'll be a lovely evening. listen, thanks for evening. so listen, thanks for opoottno— evening. so listen, thanks for onoottno to— evening. so listen, thanks for speaking to us. _ evening. so listen, thanks for speaking to us. j speaking to us. really appreciate it. enjoy night. appreciate it. enjoy the night. stay dry can. the stay dry as dry as you can. the rain starting to fall, mark. and then can then if you can, you can probably see it from your position. where position. but i think where you're sitting, you're nicely covered that must be that covered up. so that must be that must all right from where must be all right from where you're sitting. but here the battening hatches battening down the hatches and the are coming the umbrellas are coming out. even wasn't even though this rain wasn't forecast. but you've got be forecast. but you've got to be ready in this weather ready for it in this weather right? hasn't spoilt right? listen, it hasn't spoilt your gorgeous hair. lovely job, paul your gorgeous hair. lovely job, root. ttoottw— your gorgeous hair. lovely job, paul. really enjoyed- ” gg ” lovely job, paul. really enjoyed all the coverage today— paul. really enjoyed all the coverage today and last few coverage today and the last few towo— coverage today and the last few towolwott. — coverage today and the last few towolwott. tno— coverage today and the last few days well. the brilliant paul days as well. the brilliant paul nowttno— days as well. the brilliant paul hawkins with— days as well. the brilliant paul hawkins with me— days as well. the brilliant paul hawkins with me now ex hawkins with me now is the ex nrttton— hawkins with me now is the ex nrttton ornw— hawkins with me now is the ex british army officer and pottttoot— british army officer and political commentator, ben obe. otoonottt— political commentator, ben obe. otoonottt ant— political commentator, ben obe. giachetti and i've— political commentator, ben obe. giachetti and i've still got tom nowor— giachetti and i've still got tom nowor oo— giachetti and i've still got tom bower as well— giachetti and i've still got tom bower as well ,— giachetti and i've still got tom bower as well , journalist and bower as well, journalist and ttooropnor— bower as well, journalist and ttooropnor .— bower as well, journalist and biographer . ot— bower as well, journalist and biographer , of course, the biographer, of course, the ootnor— biographer, of course, the ootnor ot— biographer, of course, the author of rebel king, the making of author of rebel king, the making ot o— author of rebel king, the making ot o monoton— author of rebel king, the making of a monarch. ben— author of rebel king, the making of a monarch. ben lovely to have you— of a monarch. ben lovely to have woo nooo.— of a monarch. ben lovely to have woo noro. ant— of a monarch. ben lovely to have you here. and what— of a monarch. ben lovely to have you here. and what a moment for all you here. and what a moment for on ot— you here. and what a moment for on ot oo— you here. and what a moment for on ot to to— you here. and what a moment for on ot to to to— you here. and what a moment for all of us to be in— you here. and what a moment for all of us to be in front of the notooo. — all of us to be in front of the ootooo. voo— all of us to be in front of the palace. yes, it's— all of us to be in front of the palace. yes, it's gone a little rotnw— palace. yes, it's gone a little rotnw ont— palace. yes, it's gone a little rainy and blustery, but i feel tnot— rainy and blustery, but i feel tnot-notton— rainy and blustery, but i feel that-nation is— rainy and blustery, but i feel that nation is definitely in that the nation is definitely in the that the nation is definitely in tno-ot— that the nation is definitely in the-of coronation- that the nation is definitely in the of coronation fever .
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the grip of coronation fever. it the grip of coronation fever. tt oortotntw— the grip of coronation fever. it certainly feels— the grip of coronation fever. it certainly feels like- the grip of coronation fever. it certainly feels like that. i think you've only got sort of think you've only got to sort of appreciate the buzz there is around this place at the moment. and coming here evening, and coming here this evening, seeing families, unpacking seeing the families, unpacking their their their their tents and their and their camping a night to camping equipment for a night to get spot to watch the get a good spot to watch the parade it definitely like parade. it definitely feels like there is a real a real atmosphere of excitement about tomorrow. and i think even the most curmudgeonly people with regards to the coronation can't help but get caught up in that experience . yeah, and my experience. yeah, and my tnproooton— experience. yeah, and my tnnroooton to— experience. yeah, and my impression is that- wi;“wt.wi yeah, and my impression is that actually the coronotton— impression is that actually the coronation-been- impression is that actually the coronation been oversold coronation hasn't been oversold . ant— coronation hasn't been oversold . ant t— coronation hasn't been oversold . ant t tntnt— coronation hasn't been oversold . and i think that— coronation hasn't been oversold . and i think that the king and his . and i think that the king and no ootttottw— . and i think that the king and his publicity team , his pr team his publicity team, his pr team nooo— his publicity team, his pr team nowo tot— his publicity team, his pr team nooo got tnto— his publicity team, his pr team have got this right, his publicity team, his pr team have got this right , that, you have got this right, that, you tnow.— have got this right, that, you know tnooo— have got this right, that, you know, there was— have got this right, that, you know, there was talk of a ottgnttw— know, there was talk of a slightly slimmed down affair, not gotto— slightly slimmed down affair, not quite budget coronation not quite a budget coronation but not quite a budget coronation tot oortotntw— not quite a budget coronation but certainly coronation. but certainly a coronation. tnot-o— but certainly a coronation. that's mindful— but certainly a coronation. that's mindful of the fact that tn tno— that's mindful of the fact that we're in the-of— that's mindful of the fact that we're in the of cost of we're in the grip of a cost of ttwtng— we're in the grip of a cost of ttwtng-tno— we're in the grip of a cost of living the economy is living crisis. the economy is tootng— living crisis. the economy is tootng rnroto— living crisis. the economy is facing major challenges. it tooto— facing major challenges. it feels-there's- facing major challenges. it feels-there's a- facing major challenges. it feels there's a modesty feels like there's a modesty onoot— feels like there's a modesty otootl— feels like there's a modesty otootl. rt— feels like there's a modesty aboutl. it-it- feels like there's a modesty aboutl. it-it doesl feels like there's a modesty. aboutl. it-it does feel about it. it does. it does feel as there is a certain modesty as if there is a certain modesty about it. and i think most of the heavy lifting be the heavy lifting seems to be done by by the media, to be honest. i think that's honest. yeah, i think that's where been
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where the excitement has been building. the pops the building. the vox pops the onoottng— building. the vox pops the. opoottng—toot building. the vox pops the. speakyeah,_just building. the vox pops the. speakyeah, i_just building. the vox pops the. speakyeah, i think-just 2 g the vox pops the speakyeah, i think that's just 2 g the vox pops the speakyeah, i think that's the st seen. yeah, i think that's the element— seen. yeah, i think that's the element that's— seen. yeah, i think that's the element that's really driven this— element that's really driven this and— element that's really driven this and encouraged people to. come along and get involved in it. and— come along and get involved in it. and i— come along and get involved in it. and i think— come along and get involved in it. and i think that's where we export— it. and i think that's where we export pomp— it. and i think that's where we export pomp ant— it. and i think that's where we export pomp and ceremony very wet.— export pomp and ceremony very| well. _ excitement well. and i think the excitement trom— well. and i think the excitement tom evewtoty— well. and i think the excitement from everybody else has has tuttet— from everybody else has has tuttet ott— from everybody else has has rubbed off on— from everybody else has has rubbed off on us. and think rubbed off on us. and i think just— rubbed off on us. and i think we've just we've— rubbed off on us. and i think we've just we've been much we've just we've been very much taught—t— we've just we've been very much caught—it looks- caught up in it. so it looks ute— caught up in it. so it looks like.should_ caught up in it. so it looks likelshould be- caught up in it. so it looks like should be incredible to like it should be incredible to watch— like it should be incredible to watch . — like it should be incredible to watch . tow.— like it should be incredible to watch . now,-about. like it should be incredible to watch . \\c"\\" watch. now, what about the importance the military to importance of the military to charles? is that a cause close to his heart, you think? i to his heart, do you think? i think certainly is. i think think it certainly is. i think you-ve— think it certainly is. i think you-ve-got— think it certainly is. i think you-ve-got to- think it certainly is. i think you've got to look at you've only got to look at the number colonelcies he number of colonelcies that he holds . the colonel, colonel in holds. the colonel, colonel in chiefs that he represents his his willingness to wear military uniform . i was reading an uniform. i was reading an anecdote about him the other day in terms of when he became colonel in chief of the parachute regiment and in order to wear the wings, he decided that he was going to dup company and jumps course, and to do the jumps course, because feel because otherwise he didn't feel like wear like he deserved to wear the maroon beret. and i think that's that's the of the that's the measure of the individual is. i don't individual that he is. i don't think that you as the think that that you as the monarch, you need the respect of
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the military and whilst much of thatis the military and whilst much of that is almost a guarantee anything that you can do to further that that commitment and that that connection i think is going to be key has he seen enough action in order to sort of win the respect of the military? alas , this is this is military? alas, this is this is no tonget— military? alas, this is this is no tonget the— military? alas, this is this is no longer the 11th— c 337 alas, this is this is no longer the 11th century and no longer the iith century and there-s— no longer the 11th century and there-s nt— no longer the 11th century and there's no chance— no longer the 11th century and there's no chance of him leading tetttng— there's no chance of him leading tetttng the— there's no chance of him leading leading the army— there's no chance of him leading leading the army across to proctttm— leading the army across to proclaim himself king of king of i proclaim himself king of king of . mete— proclaim himself king of king of . we ttt— proclaim himself king of king of i mean, we did see— proclaim himself king of king of i mean, we did see harry earn his i mean, we did see harry earn tte etttpee— i mean, we did see harry earn tte etttpee te— i mean, we did see harry earn his stripes to a— i mean, we did see harry earn his stripes to a degree, didn't we? — his stripes to a degree, didn't we? ant— his stripes to a degree, didn't we? and perhaps- his stripes to a degree, didn't we? ' ' his stripes to a degree, didn't- we? and perhaps andrew as well. dare i mentioned his name? i think think really think i think it's really important that that the royal family has connection family always has a connection to military and i think to the military and i think whatever happens, you know, the fact that served a the fact that harry has served a the duke of sussex served in afghanistan, the duke of york, served in the falklands , that's served in the falklands, that's an commitment. and an incredible commitment. and a role that that they don't- role that that they don't necessarily— role that that they don't necessarily have to do. so their wttttngneee— necessarily have to do. so their willingness to _ necessarily have to do. so their willingness to get— necessarily have to do. so their willingness to get involved and to serve— willingness to get involved and to serve on— willingness to get involved and to serve on the— willingness to get involved and to serve on the front line. i tttnt— to serve on the front line. i tttnt when— to serve on the front line. i think when many other people meet— think when many other people eeeeet net— think when many other people choose not to— think when many other people choose not to is— think when many other people choose not to is to be commended.- choose not to is to be commended. yeah.
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choose not to is to be- commended. yeah. tom, what choose not to is to be— commended. yeah. tom, what do you think about the king's attitude to the armed forces? he's, as you mentioned , with he's, as you mentioned, with those letters, he's been those spider letters, he's been very supportive behind the scenes action man. there's no doubt scenes action man. there's no teett eteut— scenes action man. there's no doubt about it.— scenes action man. there's no doubt about it. and— scenes action man. there's no doubt about it. and the- f f" “a" there's no doubt about it. and the whole royal— doubt about it. and the whole teyet temtty— doubt about it. and the whole royal family has— doubt about it. and the whole royal family has been i mean, you— royal family has been i mean, you-tnow— royal family has been i mean, you-know better- royal family has been i mean, you know better than me. i you would know better than me. i they— you would know better than me. i mean, they actually— you would know better than me. i mean, they actually serve. king ent— mean, they actually serve. king ent country— mean, they actually serve. king and country queen— mean, they actually serve. king and country queen and country. the— and country queen and country. the teyetty— and country queen and country. the teyetty et— and country queen and country. the loyalty of soldiers towards the the loyalty of soldiers towards tte met— the loyalty of soldiers towards the monarch is— the loyalty of soldiers towards the monarch is undiluted , is the monarch is undiluted, is eteetetety— the monarch is undiluted, is absolutely passionate, and i ttmt— absolutely passionate, and i think they've— absolutely passionate, and i think they've all the all the teyete— think they've all the all the teyete teve— think they've all the all the royals have in— think they've all the all the royals have in the way they tte. — royals have in the way they tte. ttt — royals have in the way they ride. and the— royals have in the way they ride. and the horse cars, the eteteme— ride. and the horse cars, the etetemg et— ride. and the horse cars, the changing of the— ride. and the horse cars, the changing of the guard and all the changing of the guard and all tte teet— changing of the guard and all tte teet et— changing of the guard and all the rest of it.— changing of the guard and all the rest of it. this will be an emezme— the rest of it. this will be an amazing their— the rest of it. this will be an amazing their commitment. the rest of it. this will be an amazing their commitment . and amazing their commitment. and you amazing their commitment. and you eet-t— amazing their commitment. and you eet-tle— amazing their commitment. and you can't-a prince— amazing their commitment. and you can't a prince without you can't be a prince without having— you can't be a prince without having somehow— you can't be a prince without having somehow committed yeeteett— having somehow committed yeeteett et— having somehow committed yourself at some stage and etetee— yourself at some stage and etetee et— yourself at some stage and charles, of course, is the navy . se— charles, of course, is the navy . se tt— charles, of course, is the navy . se t we— charles, of course, is the navy . se tt e— charles, of course, is the navy . so it was a pretty— charles, of course, is the navy . so it was a pretty good record . wett— . so it was a pretty good record . well, gentlemen,- . so it was a pretty good record . well, gentlemen, let's- . so it was a pretty good record . well, gentlemen, let's let's let's jump forward a little bit because we want to get these rain showers out of the way. apologies to my team behind the cameras there. have to refocus and reset, but i don't want everyone drenched, especially not that expensive suit that tom bower's wearing or your lovely
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whistle as well. tom, i felt like it was a soldier in the meantime. but if you notice on the meantime. but if you notice on tte eewet— meantime. but if you notice on tte te-e— meantime. but if you notice on the cover, he's dressed- but if you notice on the cover, he's dressed in a wettettet— the cover, he's dressed in a wonderful uniform. let's have a ttttte— wonderful uniform. let's have a little look at that and that's the about the royal family the point about the royal family they committed and the and they are committed and the and the they are committed and the and tte-ete— they are committed and the and tte-ent tte— they are committed and the and the-and the navy- they are committed and the and the and the navy and the the army and the navy and the air the army and the navy and the tte-twe— the army and the navy and the air- have terrific- air force have terrific commitment to the royal family. in commitment to the royal family. m tem— commitment to the royal family. m tem . — commitment to the royal family. in turn . indeed.— commitment to the royal family. in turn . indeed. so— commitment to the royal family. in turn. 3: commitment to the royal family. in turn . 3: its" in turn. indeed. so now, ben, what about the coronation and the great people of this country? can can can the king unite the united kingdom? can he bnng unite the united kingdom? can he bring all of our communities together? because we need a figure that can no politician can now because , as you know, can now because, as you know, politics is so divisive. it's so tribal. but can we can the king be the one to unlock some unity within our country ? i think within our country? i think there's a natural- " ” tits. “$7 i think there's a natural unity " ” ti.ti:t. m7’ i think there's a natural unity built tte— there's a natural unity built ttte tte— there's a natural unity built into the monarchy . being an into the monarchy. being an eeetttteet— into the monarchy. being an apolitical organisation , as it apolitical organisation, as it teettteettw— apolitical organisation, as it technically is. _ apolitical organisation, as it technically is. i— apolitical organisation, as it technically is. i think the etttttw— technically is. i think the etttttw et— technically is. i think the ability of the— technically is. i think the ability of the monarch to be me— ability of the monarch to be ette te— ability of the monarch to be able to unite— ability of the monarch to be able to unite the nation in a common cause of- able to unite the nation in a common cause of behind the eeettw— common cause of behind the eeettw te— common cause of behind the country is perhaps their greeteet— country is perhaps their greatest unifying talent. and i ttmt— greatest unifying talent. and i ttmt ttet— greatest unifying talent. and i think that no— greatest unifying talent. and i think that no doubt this is a
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transitional— think that no doubt this is a transitional phase and i'm sure king— transitional phase and i'm sure king etetee— transitional phase and i'm sure king charles will— transitional phase and i'm sure king charles will want to put his king charles will want to put tte ew— king charles will want to put tte eteme— king charles will want to put his own stamp on on the monarchy and his own stamp on on the monarchy ett te— his own stamp on on the monarchy ett te te— his own stamp on on the monarchy ett te te ttmee— his own stamp on on the monarchy and to do things in— his own stamp on on the monarchy and to do things in a— his own stamp on on the monarchy and to do things in a slightly ttttetett— and to do things in a slightly different way— and to do things in a slightly different way and in potentially in different way and in potentially m mett— different way and in potentially m many wewe— different way and in potentially m many wewe e— different way and in potentially in many ways a more modern way as in many ways a more modern way ee we ee we teet— in many ways a more modern way as we as we look towards the tetwe — as we as we look towards the tetwe ttet— as we as we look towards the future that that— as we as we look towards the future that that holds. and i ttmt— future that that holds. and i ttmt tt— future that that holds. and i think it will— future that that holds. and i think it will be— future that that holds. and i think it will be a very interesting— think it will be a very interesting time to see how that tew— interesting time to see how that tew ttet— interesting time to see how that tew ttet tem— interesting time to see how that how that pans out. _ interesting time to see how that how that pans out. i think even tteee— how that pans out. i think even tteee eeeete— how that pans out. i think even those people who— how that pans out. i think even those people who are perhaps not not those people who are perhaps not tet eetteee— those people who are perhaps not tet eetteee e— those people who are perhaps not tet eetteee e tte— those people who are perhaps not not perhaps a big supporter of the coronation— not perhaps a big supporter of the coronation shall we say, and tteee— the coronation shall we say, and tteee ttet— the coronation shall we say, and those that are— the coronation shall we say, and those that are even— the coronation shall we say, and those that are even actively twme— those that are even actively twme te— those that are even actively twme te ewett— those that are even actively trying to avoid it, those that are even actively trying to avoid it , this is a trying to avoid it, this is a meet— trying to avoid it, this is a shared experience and with that meet— shared experience and with that shared experience, you know, on teeetew— shared experience, you know, on tweetew eveonery— shared experience, you know, on tuesday, everyone will be asked, wtete— tuesday, everyone will be asked, wtete ett— tuesday, everyone will be asked, wtete ttt wee— tuesday, everyone will be asked, where did you watch the coronation— where did you watch the coronation and even if you have to coronation and even if you have te-tte— coronation and even if you have to-the question- coronation and even if you have to-the question .youj to answer the question that you ewettet— to answer the question that you ewettet-wett— to answer the question that you avoided-well as- to answer the question that you avoided well as you could, avoided it as well as you could, wee-re— avoided it as well as you could, you're-involved— you're still involved in that conversation _ you're still involved in that conversation you're still conversation and you're still treeett— conversation and you're still trewett etete— conversation and you're still brought along on journey. brought along on the journey. wett— brought along on the journey. well, - because - brought along on the journey. well,-because i- brought along on the journey. . well,-because i remember well, i agree because i remember i do think jubilee the i do think the jubilee and the queen's bring queen's sad funeral did bring the put paid queen's sad funeral did bring thtthis put paid queen's sad funeral did bring thtthis idea put paid queen's sad funeral did bring thtthis idea that put paid queen's sad funeral did bring thtthis idea that somehowtaid to this idea that somehow britain is a wildly intolerant, hateful country and actually it was a great celebration of our diversity, but effortlessly . so diversity, but effortlessly. so not forced, but just a moment
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where the nation instinctively comes together. it's almost like a diagnostic , isn't it? yeah, a diagnostic, isn't it? yeah, it's a testing the pulse of the nafion it's a testing the pulse of the nation and. and it hugely feels ttet,— nation and. and it hugely feels ttet, wee— nation and. and it hugely feels ttet, you mew,— nation and. and it hugely feels that, you know, there- e�*t: and it hugely feels that, you know, there no that, you know, there are no eterteee— that, you know, there are no eterteee-wte- that, you know, there are no. shortage -who wants that, you know, there are no- shortage -who wants to shortage of people who wants to be shortage of people who wants to te—ttte— shortage of people who wants to be _this occasion - shortage of people who wants to be this occasion who be involved in this occasion who wett— be involved in this occasion who wete—er— be involved in this occasion who ete— eeeemel be involved in this occasion who. want—are queuing now want to who who are queuing now in want to who who are queuing now met-— want to who who are queuing now met- tte— want to who who are queuing now met- tte-te- want to who who are queuing now met- tte-te get- in the rain on the mall to get a eeet— in the rain on the mall to get a eeet wew— in the rain on the mall to get a good et— in the rain on the mall to get a good view of parade good view of the parade tomorrow. .the - good view of the parade tomorrow. the sheer tomorrow. so the sheer willingness— tomorrow. so the sheer willingness public willingness of the public to come-together- willingness of the public to come together and come come to pull together and come tetmt— come to pull together and come tetttt ttte— come to pull together and come behind this and— come to pull together and come behind this and it— come to pull together and come behind this and it will be a teteteee— behind this and it will be a fabulous parade. "dod : til“; fabulous parade. 7000 soldiers. it's going to be mean , the it's going to be i mean, the queen's funeral, it was just absolutely mesmerising. it was guards. and the brigade major was guards. and the brigade major eewme— guards. and the brigade major eewmg ttet— guards. and the brigade major was saying that the— 3: and the brigade major was saying that the procession tteett— was saying that the procession tteett te— was saying that the procession tteett te tt— was saying that the procession itself is 1.4, two— was saying that the procession itself is 1.4, two miles long. att— itself is 1.4, two miles long. ttt tte— itself is 1.4, two miles long. ttt we re,— itself is 1.4, two miles long. and it's 15, 15— itself is 1.4, two miles long. and it's 15, 15 abreast itself is 1.4, two miles long. and it's15, 15 abreast and it wtt— and it's15, 15 abreast and it wttt tttt— and it's15, 15 abreast and it will fill the— and it's15, 15 abreast and it will fill the mall from from trem— will fill the mall from from trem tert— will fill the mall from from from left to _ will fill the mall from from from left to right and from treet— from left to right and from trett te— from left to right and from front to back. _ from left to right and from front to back. and he said that wtet— front to back. and he said that wtet te— front to back. and he said that when he reaches— front to back. and he said that when he reaches buckingham teteee— when he reaches buckingham teteee-teet— when he reaches buckingham palace-back of- when he reaches buckingham palace back of the parade palace at the back of the parade wtt— palace at the back of the parade wttt-te— palace at the back of the parade wttt-te et— palace at the back of the parade will-be at downing- palace at the back of the parade will be at downing street. will still be at downing street. so there will just the most emezme— so there will just the most amazing_come| so there will just the most amazing—come it amazing photos will come from it weett— amazing photos will come from it weett te— amazing photos will come from it weett te tt— amazing photos will come from it would be it would— amazing photos will come from it would be it would be remiss of me-e— would be it would be remiss of me-e eeeete— would be it would be remiss of me-a couple of— would be it would be remiss of me a couple of seconds on me just a couple of seconds on ttte— me just a couple of seconds on ttte-tet-t— me just a couple of seconds on this,-don't want- me just a couple of seconds on this,-don't want to - me just a couple of seconds on this, don't want to spoil this, but i don't want to spoil tte— this, but i don't want to spoil tte eertw— this, but i don't want to spoil tte eertw er— this, but i don't want to spoil the party or the— this, but i don't want to spoil the party or the mood good the party or the mood of good tereeer — the party or the mood of good- humour. _chairman humour. but you are the chairman of and wood green of hornsey and wood green conservatives is it? game over
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for rishi sunak? have you already lost the next election? not at all. not at all. i think. i think not at all. not at all. i think. t tttet ttte— not at all. not at all. i think. i think this is— not at all. not at all. i think. i think this is a— not at all. not at all. i think. i think this is a this- not at all. not at all. i think. i think this is a this is- i think this is a this is a barometer— i think this is a this is a barometer and- i think this is a this is a barometer and i think this tests the barometer and i think this tests tte reeewet— barometer and i think this tests the resolve of— barometer and i think this tests the resolve of the— barometer and i think this tests the resolve of the party and it tteettttee— the resolve of the party and it identifies where— the resolve of the party and it identifies where potentially the party— identifies where potentially the eertw is, — identifies where potentially the eertw ts is, — identifies where potentially the eertw ts, ts ts— identifies where potentially the party is, is, is going wrong or is party is, is, is going wrong or ts mewte— party is, is, is going wrong or ts maybe eet— party is, is, is going wrong or is maybe not connecting with eeeete— is maybe not connecting with eeeete es— is maybe not connecting with eeeete es-es— is maybe not connecting with eeeete es-es we- is maybe not connecting with people as as we could be. people as well as we could be. tet— people as well as we could be. tet t— people as well as we could be. tet t-ttet— people as well as we could be. and i-that that- people as well as we could be. and i that that gives us and i think that that gives us the and i think that that gives us tte etttttw— and i think that that gives us the ability to— and i think that that gives us the ability to identify where ttese— the ability to identify where ttese tttees— the ability to identify where those things can be addressed eet— those things can be addressed eet ttere-s— those things can be addressed and there's plenty of time until the and there's plenty of time until tte—teee- the next election bring boris teet— the next election bring boris beet-ts— the next election bring boris back-18 months,- the next election bring boris back 18 months, bring back another 18 months, bring tees— back another 18 months, bring terts-ereteet- back another 18 months, bring boris-pretend not. back another 18 months, bring boris pretend not to boris back. you pretend not to mm— boris back. you pretend not to teer—tte- boris back. you pretend not to hear—the primej hear that question. the prime tttetster— hear that question. the prime tttetster ts— hear that question. the prime minister is doing— hear that question. the prime minister is doing a fantastic job minister is doing a fantastic tet eet— minister is doing a fantastic tet eet t— minister is doing a fantastic job and i think— minister is doing a fantastic job and i think he is setting us on job and i think he is setting us ee eeeettw— job and i think he is setting us on exactly the— job and i think he is setting us on exactly the right course. i tttet— on exactly the right course. i tttet w-wee— on exactly the right course. i think we've got— on exactly the right course. i think we've got a— on exactly the right course. i think we've got a future prime tttetster— think we've got a future prime minister sitting— think we've got a future prime minister sitting next to us. tet— minister sitting next to us. ttet tee— minister sitting next to us. ttet tee te— minister sitting next to us. put ben in charge.- minister sitting next to us. put ben in charge. my- minister sitting next to us. put ben in charge. my thanks to ben. i'll be dealing ben. abc sti. i'll be dealing with rishi sunak sunday night with rishi sunak on sunday night in my big opinion, but for this weekend , tonight tomorrow, weekend, tonight and tomorrow, it's coronation party. let's it's a coronation party. let's head to one of tonight's three polls that we've been asking you onune polls that we've been asking you online on. i've been asking online on. and i've been asking will the coronation unite the united kingdom let's united kingdom? let's take a look. the results are in. 36% say yes. but sadly , 64% say no.
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say yes. but sadly, 64% say no. the coronation will not unite the united kingdom . now, coming the united kingdom. now, coming up, we'll be meeting the crowds, camping overnight. and i'll be asking bower and eve pollard asking tom bower and eve pollard is meghan markle's absence disrespectful ? and can the £250 disrespectful? and can the £250 million cost of the coronation be justified? but here's another taste of me out meeting the great british public. will you be for the big event tomorrow? well unfortunately, i'll be going home. as much as i'd like to going home. as much as i'd like te stew— going home. as much as i'd like te stew eere— going home. as much as i'd like to stay here tonight— git g as much as i'd like to stay here tonight with yes g; g as much as i'd like to stay here tonight with yes , to stay here tonight with yes, teeeese— to stay here tonight with yes, teeeese tte — to stay here tonight with yes, because the atmosphere and ewewtttee— because the atmosphere and everything about it is fantastic . tet- — everything about it is fantastic . tet- ves— everything about it is fantastic . and. yes. and— everything about it is fantastic . and. yes. and i. i- everything about it is fantastic . t: “tit; t: ithink everything about it is fantastic . 't: “tit; 't: i think he . and. yes. and i. i think he mete— . and. yes. and i. i think he mete e— . and. yes. and i. i think he mete e wew— . and. yes. and i. i think he make a very good— . t: “tit; t: ithink he make a very good king. i think ttere-s— make a very good king. i think ttere-s etwews— make a very good king. i think there's always something a bit of a cheeky smile there as well. you can see with him, too. so i tttet— you can see with him, too. so i tttet tettet— you can see with him, too. so i think behind the— you can see with him, too. so i think behind the sense of occasion and— think behind the sense of occasion and austerity that he tetts— occasion and austerity that he tetts t— occasion and austerity that he holds, i think— occasion and austerity that he holds, i think there's probably a holds, i think there's probably e ett— holds, i think there's probably e ttt et— holds, i think there's probably e ttt et tee— holds, i think there's probably a bit of fun .there- a bit of fun in there and teeetettw— a bit of fun in there and hopefully-will- a bit of fun in there and hopefully-will some hopefully that will bring some trett— hopefully that will bring somei trett—teettees light hearted and good feelings as light hearted and good feelings es-te— light hearted and good feelings es-te tte— light hearted and good feelings es-te tte tet— light hearted and good feelings as-to the job that- light hearted and good feelings as to the job that he's as well to the job that he's tetee— as well to the job that he's tetee te— as well to the job that he's doing in sense— as well to the job that he's doing in sense of the work.
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foun four, four, five, six, seven. weteeme— four, four, five, six, seven. welcome back— four, four, five, six, seven. welcome back to- four, four, five, six, seven. welcome back to mark- four, four, five, six, seven. welcome back to mark dolan tonight. and it's the coronation eeeettewe— tonight. and it's the coronation countdown live— tonight. and it's the coronation countdown live from _ ct" gm and it's the coronation countdown live from buckingham teteee. — countdown live from buckingham teteee. tet— countdown live from buckingham palace. and don't— countdown live from buckingham palace. and don't forget, at too,— palace. and don't forget, at see, w-wee— palace. and don't forget, at 9:00, we've got— palace. and don't forget, at 9:00, we've got my big opinion, my eeeretset— 9:00, we've got my big opinion, my eeeretset et— 9:00, we've got my big opinion, my appraisal of king charles, my meetteste— my appraisal of king charles, my manifesto for— my appraisal of king charles, my manifesto for our— my appraisal of king charles, my manifesto for our new monarch. tet— manifesto for our new monarch. tet te— manifesto for our new monarch. tet te mt— manifesto for our new monarch. tee te my tete— manifesto for our new monarch. and in my take at— manifesto for our new monarch. and in my take at ten, i'll be mettee— and in my take at ten, i'll be mettee tte— and in my take at ten, i'll be making the case— and in my take at ten, i'll be making the case for queen eemttte. — making the case for queen camilla. but— making the case for queen camilla. but with me for the text— camilla. but with me for the text tew— camilla. but with me for the next few minutes, i'm delighted to next few minutes, i'm delighted te teeme— next few minutes, i'm delighted to welcome back— next few minutes, i'm delighted to welcome back tom bower, who is to welcome back tom bower, who ts tte— to welcome back tom bower, who ts tte eetter— to welcome back tom bower, who is the author and— to welcome back tom bower, who is the author and writer and the tteereeter— is the author and writer and the tteereeter et— is the author and writer and the biographer of the— is the author and writer and the biographer of the king rebel king-— biographer of the king rebel king- tte— biographer of the king rebel king. the making of a monarch eet— king. the making of a monarch eet etse— king. the making of a monarch and also fleet— king. the making of a monarch and also fleet street legend, tte— and also fleet street legend, tte ttrst— and also fleet street legend, the first lady— and also fleet street legend, the first lady of— and also fleet street legend, the first lady of fleet street. twe — the first lady of fleet street. eve pollard.— the first lady of fleet street. eve pollard. eve,— the first lady of fleet street. eve pollard. eve, can we now get to eve pollard. eve, can we now get te tte— eve pollard. eve, can we now get to the sussexes_ eve pollard. eve, can we now get to the sussexes ?_ eve pollard. eve, can we now get to the sussexes ? i've stayed off to the sussexes? i've stayed off ttet— to the sussexes? i've stayed off ttet seer-eet— to the sussexes? i've stayed off that subject for— to the sussexes? i've stayed off that subject for 45— to the sussexes? i've stayed off that subject for 45 minutes. i'm very— that subject for 45 minutes. i'm very treet— that subject for 45 minutes. i'm very ereet et— that subject for 45 minutes. i'm very proud of myself. yes, simple— very proud of myself. yes, simple question . when is meghan simple question. when is meghan ttertte-s— simple question. when is meghan markle's albie_ simple question. when is meghan markle's albie ?_ simple question. when is meghan markle's albie ? since markle's albie? since disrespectful to the king and to
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the disrespectful to the king and to tte eeeete— disrespectful to the king and to tte eeeete et— disrespectful to the king and to the people of this— disrespectful to the king and to the people of this country , i the people of this country, i tttet— the people of this country, i tttet tt— the people of this country, i think it probably be a rather rettet— think it probably be a rather rettet te— think it probably be a rather relief to the _ think it probably be a rather relief to the king and some of the relief to the king and some of tte eeeete— relief to the king and some of tte eeeete et— relief to the king and some of the people of this— relief to the king and some of the people of this country. i mean, she has— the people of this country. i mean, she has the- the people of this country. i mean, she has the perfect excuse that son's birthday. that says son's birthday. i think it's very sad. i think the whole situation sad whole situation is very sad because they could have been very useful they hadn't very useful if they just hadn't leapt tried make leapt off and tried to make a lot of money out being royal. lot of money out of being royal. he has to be here. i mean, their whole future depends on him being associate with the royal family. without it , nothing. so family. without it, nothing. so i it's very sad that there i think it's very sad that there isn't any sort of kindness , isn't any sort of kindness, gentleness, softness, empathy , gentleness, softness, empathy, arnie exactly. she hasn't gone to see her father, who's had several strokes . so i don't several strokes. so i don't know. i mean , after all, that know. i mean, after all, that little boy could have had a very nice party here on sunday with all his english relatives. but we're not there yet, are we? we're not. she should be here, i tttet— we're not. she should be here, i think, because _ we're not. she should be here, i think, because there— �*ftti; ”c: she should be here, i think, because there might have teee— think, because there might have been some crowds— think, because there might have been some crowds booing her or ste— been some crowds booing her or ste mtett— been some crowds booing her or ste mtett teee— been some crowds booing her or she might have had a frosty weteemelt— she might have had a frosty welcome.-i don't- she might have had a frosty welcome. i don't think the welcome. but i don't think the trtttst— welcome. but i don't think the. british—abused british people would have abused her british people would have abused ter ee— british people would have abused her en masse. no.— british people would have abused her en masse. no. and i think eeeete— her en masse. no. and i think eeeete weett—
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her en masse. no. and i think people would have respected the fact people would have respected the teet-ste— people would have respected the teet-ste-ste- people would have respected the fact - she - she faced i fact that she came. she faced tte— fact that she came. she faced tte mesm— fact that she came. she faced the music,-her- fact that she came. she faced the music, her head up the music, held her head up high-— the music, held her head up ttet-t— the music, held her head up ttet-t tttet— the music, held her head up high. i think she's missed high. and i think she's missed an high. and i think she's missed ee—veet.- high. and i think she's missed. an _yeah,-that's an opportunity. yeah, but that's there's facing the there's not much facing the music, is there? they're not her nature, no, not with nature, perhaps. no, not with her family. not with her family here. it's very sad . is it here. it's very sad. is it unsurprising— here. it's very sad. is it unsurprising to- "til”tii: wig set: is it unsurprising to you, tom, as here. it's very sad. is it- unsurprising to you, tom, as the tteereeter— unsurprising to you, tom, as the tteereeter et— unsurprising to you, tom, as the biographer of meghan markle, yeer— biographer of meghan markle, yeer tetest— biographer of meghan markle, your latest bestseller is out ts— your latest bestseller is out ts tt— your latest bestseller is out now. is it surprising to you ttet— now. is it surprising to you ttet ste-s— now. is it surprising to you that she's not— now. is it surprising to you that she's not there? absolutely— that she's not there? absolutely not. - that she's not there? absolutely not. i- that she's not there? absolutely not. i never thought she would be here. i'm surprised she would be here. i'm surprised she bottled it . no, i think she she bottled it. no, i think she doesn't care about britain. i mean, used britain. it's mean, she's used britain. it's been a wonderful platform for this third rate actress to become a global icon. and she always intended very harsh on suits. enjoyed it, always intended very harsh on suits. enjoyed it , especially suits. i enjoyed it, especially t-m — suits. i enjoyed it, especially tm-wes— suits. i enjoyed it, especially t-m-wesleeet- suits. i enjoyed it, especially. i'm _waslgood series. i'm sure it was a good series. t-m— i'm sure it was a good series. t-m set— i'm sure it was a good series. t-m set ter— i'm sure it was a good series. t-m set for you— i'm sure it was a good series. i'm sad for you that- i'm sure it was a good series. i'm sad for you that you- i'm sure it was a good series. i'm sad for you that you thought it was so good. a very i don't tete— it was so good. a very i don't tewe e— it was so good. a very i don't tewe e very— it was so good. a very i don't have a very exciting- e g: a very i don't have a very exciting private tte,— have a very exciting private tte, tet— have a very exciting private life, but but— have a very exciting private life, but but i— have a very exciting private life, but but i mean, the point is life, but but i mean, the point ts ttet— life, but but i mean, the point ts ttet ste— life, but but i mean, the point is that she her— life, but but i mean, the point is that she her wedding guests stewet— is that she her wedding guests stewet ttet— is that she her wedding guests showed that she— is that she her wedding guests showed that she never intended to showed that she never intended te stey. — showed that she never intended te stey. tt— showed that she never intended te stey. t we— showed that she never intended to stay. it was all— showed that she never intended to stay. e to stay. it was all california and hollywood, many of whom she had met. exactly. had never met. exactly. the clooneys and what for winfrey and all these they weren't her
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friends. so it was always part of program back to of the program to go back to california, question is california, to the question is whether can sustain it whether she can sustain it there. i'm not surprised that there. so i'm not surprised that she didn't come . i'm a bit she didn't come. i'm a bit surprised that harry came . i surprised that harry came. i think there was a lot of arm twisting, negotiations, twisting, a lot of negotiations, which one day will become apparent. but it wasn't inevitable that he'd come . kyiv inevitable that he'd come. kyiv says he should be. he has- kyiv says he should be. he has to be eere.— says he should be. he has to be tere. te— says he should be. he has to be tere. te tes— says he should be. he has to be here. he has to— says he should be. he has to be here. he has to be— says he should be. he has to be here. he has to be next to the eyes.— here. he has to be next to the royals. otherwise— here. he has to be next to the royals. otherwise the further eet— royals. otherwise the further eet tertter— royals. otherwise the further and further away gets and further away he gets from ttem, — and further away he gets from ttemltess— and further away he gets from them,-less and— and further away he gets from them, less and less is their them, the less and less is their ster— them, the less and less is their ster eeettty— them, the less and less is their star quality. their— them, the less and less is their star quality. their only teterest— star quality. their only interest to— star quality. their only interest to people of the world is interest to people of the world ts ttet— interest to people of the world is that there _ interest to people of the world is that there i— interest to people of the world is that there i agree with temtty. — is that there i agree with temtty. tte— is that there i agree with family. i : is that there i agree with- family. his absence would go down in history. he well, it would go down and would look would go down and it would look very, very small and petty. well, may be right, but very, very small and petty. - well,-may be right, but they well, you may be right, but they are well, you may be right, but they smett— well, you may be right, but they are small and— well, you may be right, but they are small and petty. �*ftirite are small and petty. what he sett— are small and petty. what he said about his father, what he said about his father, what he said what he said said about camilla, what he said about brother so about his brother is so outrageous . he's disloyal. about his brother is so outrésoous . he's disloyal. about his brother is so outréso dishonest. disloyal. about his brother is so outréso dishonest. i disloyal. about his brother is so outréso dishonest. i thinkyal. about his brother is so outréso dishonest. i think that he's so dishonest. i think that i think is unbelievable. mean, he's so dishonest. i think that i tyou're; unbelievable. mean, he's so dishonest. i think that i tyou're ifinbelievable. mean, he's so dishonest. i think that i tyou're if your evable. mean, he's so dishonest. i think that i tyou're if your child e. mean, he's so dishonest. i think that i tyou're if your child is mean, he's so dishonest. i think that i tyou're if your child is 35,ean, if you're if your child is 35, could you grow up? you have you have inhabited— could you grow up? you have you have inhabited the— i: g i. it7 you have you have inhabited the psychology and mentality— have inhabited the psychology and mentality of— have inhabited the psychology and mentality of charles in the wetee— and mentality of charles in the wrtttee et— and mentality of charles in the wetee et yeer— and mentality of charles in the writing of your book. if you are etertes— writing of your book. if you are eterteslyee— writing of your book. if you are
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charles,.you want- writing of your book. if you are charles, you want william, do charles, do you want william, do you charles, do you want william, do yee wett— charles, do you want william, do yee weet terry— charles, do you want william, do you want harry there? well i tttet— you want harry there? well i tttetltees— you want harry there? well i think-does want- you want harry there? well i think does want him there think he does want him there teeeese— think he does want him there because ithink— think he does want him there because think feels guilty because i think he feels guilty eteet— because i think he feels guilty eteet-ttet— because i think he feels guilty about-that harry- because i think he feels guilty about that harry was about the way that harry was eteeteeet— about the way that harry wasj abandoned—after abandoned to an extent after tteee-s— abandoned to an extent after diana's death— abandoned to an extent after diana's death as— abandoned to an extent after diana's death as he pursued his etter— diana's death as he pursued his other interests. _ diana's death as he pursued his other interests. ' t: diana's death as he pursued his other interests. t: other interests. and also, he believes that somehow that reconciling is possible, but it's not possible except as as harry has said , unless he will harry has said, unless he will come grovelling and apologise to me for being born and having not been treated properly and not getting a bigger bedroom, i'm not to that not going to talk to them. that was petty , wasn't it? and was very petty, wasn't it? and the fact this was a wig e c7 and the fact this was a chance if the fact is this was a chance if ttey-t— the fact is this was a chance if ttey-t mtsset— the fact is this was a chance if they'd missed this— the fact is this was a chance if they'd missed this chance. you reetty— they'd missed this chance. you reetty ere— they'd missed this chance. you reetty te— they'd missed this chance. you really are in the— they'd missed this chance. you really are in the area of no going— really are in the area of no going teet — really are in the area of no going back. yeah ti going back. yeah he's kept the door open, hasn't he? he's kept the door slightly ajar. tom, you're about to get your train, right. gloves are off. how right. the gloves are off. how long give that marriage? long do you give that marriage? i the and i don't mean the king and camilla. mean harry and camilla. i mean harry and meghan. well, i'm in the mteertty— meghan. well, i'm in the mteertty. t— meghan. well, i'm in the minority. i don't- iitzigirit“ well, i'm in the minority. i don't see any etweeteee— minority. i don't see any advantage for- minority. i don't see any advantage for meghan to break the advantage for meghan to break tte merrteee— advantage for meghan to break the marriage up.— advantage for meghan to break the marriage up. mean, there's advantage for meghan to break theyearriage up. mean, there's advantage for meghan to break theyear olda up. mean, there's advantage for meghan to break theyear old mothernean, there's advantage for meghan to break theyear old mother ofan, there's advantage for meghan to break theyear old mother ofan, ti no 's 42 year old mother of two, no greet— 42 year old mother of two, no greet eereer— 42 year old mother of two, no great career alone. what other ttet— great career alone. what other ttee ee— great career alone. what other ttee ee etett— great career alone. what other than an eight year old getty or semetttee— than an eight year old getty or semetttee ,— than an eight year old getty or something , who— than an eight year old getty or something , who might fancy
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something, who might fancy meghan?— something, who might fancy meghan? t— something, who might fancy meghan? i don't see that. she is eeteetty— meghan? i don't see that. she is eeteetty tte — meghan? i don't see that. she is actually the bimbo— meghan? i don't see that. she is actually the bimbo esque woman wte— actually the bimbo esque woman wte eeeeets— actually the bimbo esque woman wte eeeeets te— actually the bimbo esque woman who appeals to the— actually the bimbo esque woman who appeals to the sort of tmerteee— who appeals to the sort of american tycoons. so for the memeet— american tycoons. so for the reereeet ,— american tycoons. so for the reereeet , t— american tycoons. so for the moment, i think— american tycoons. so for the moment, i think that they need eeet— moment, i think that they need eeet etter. — moment, i think that they need each other. and— moment, i think that they need each other. and i— moment, i think that they need each other. and i think harry is a each other. and i think harry is e tetttet— each other. and i think harry is a dutiful husband.— each other. and i think harry is a dutiful husband. he won't ereme— a dutiful husband. he won't ereme-styte— a dutiful husband. he won't ereme-styte .— a dutiful husband. he won't ereme-styte . t- a dutiful husband. he won't cramp style . i think in the cramp her style. i think in the eet— cramp her style. i think in the eet ste— cramp her style. i think in the end she does— cramp her style. i think in the end she does want to go into eettttes— end she does want to go into politics-she'll- end she does want to go into politics she'll then drop politics and she'll then drop tte— politics and she'll then drop tte-tte.— politics and she'll then drop the _title. .there's. politics and she'll then drop the title. there's all the royal title. but there's all to the royal title. but there's all te etey— the royal title. but there's all te etey ter— the royal title. but there's all te etey ter ter— the royal title. but there's all to play for her. she is a very, very— to play for her. she is a very, very teee— to play for her. she is a very, very clever woman. to play for her. she is a very,- very clever woman. _got very clever woman. she has got her very clever woman. she has got ter eyes— very clever woman. she has got ter eyes ttet— very clever woman. she has got her eyes fixed on— very clever woman. she has got her eyes fixed on a— very clever woman. she has got her eyes fixed on a goal and sees— her eyes fixed on a goal and sees eteytee— her eyes fixed on a goal and sees eteytee tt— her eyes fixed on a goal and she's playing it pretty well at the she's playing it pretty well at tte memeet— she's playing it pretty well at the moment.idoes- she's playing it pretty well at the moment. t ”tie;g she's playing it pretty well at- the moment.idoes-really want the moment. does she really want to president? she probably to be us president? she probably tees— to be us president? she probably tees-ttere— to be us president? she probably does,-there-many- to be us president? she probably does,-there-many other. does, but there are many other eeeete— does, but there are many other eeete-tee.— does, but there are many other eeeete-teelt- does, but there are many other people-too..l don'tl people who do too. so i don't tttet— people who do too. so i don't tttet-tttet— people who do too. so i don't think-think-job. people who do too. so i don't think-think-job is| think i don't think the job is teee— think i don't think the job is keen—governor| think i don't think the job is. keen _ governor of keen on becoming governor of eettterete— keen on becoming governor of eettterete. — keen on becoming governor of california . and— keen on becoming governor of california . and-had- keen on becoming governor of california . t: “it: california. and she had many people helping her. in california. and she had many peo end helping her. in california. and she had many peo end she helping her. in california. and she had many peo end she realised her. in california. and she had many peo end she realised the. in the end she realised the revulsion politicians get is much more than she's had so far. and there's no money in it. i think she might try and get this tig thing, this idea of being the new gwyneth paltrow off the ground, if that works , they ground, if that works, they might stay together. if it doesn't , i'm not sure. and eve, doesn't, i'm not sure. and eve, before you doesn't, i'm not sure. and eve, tetere yee eet— doesn't, i'm not sure. and eve, before you get into— doesn't, i'm not sure. and eve, before you get into your- : e ”c: and eve, before you get into your merc, t— before you get into your merc, t est— before you get into your merc, t est yee— before you get into your merc, can i ask you about money? eeteetty—
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can i ask you about money? teteetty t— can i ask you about money? actually i don't— can i ask you about money? actually i don't have the mirror. your— actually i don't have the mirror. your paper is speculating- mirror. your paper is speculating that this coronation will speculating that this coronation wttt eest— speculating that this coronation wttt eest te— speculating that this coronation will cost in the— speculating that this coronation will cost in the region of £250 mttttee. — will cost in the region of £250 million. maybe— will cost in the region of £250 million. maybe 100 million plus for million. maybe 100 million plus ter tte— million. maybe 100 million plus for the coronation— million. maybe 100 million plus for the coronation itself . and for the coronation itself. and ttet— for the coronation itself. and ttee tte— for the coronation itself. and then the rest— for the coronation itself. and then the rest for— for the coronation itself. and then the rest for security is ttet— then the rest for security is ttet eest— then the rest for security is that cost justified ? i that cost justified? how much tees— that cost justified? how much does that work out per person? probably about three per person, yeah. the fraction , i think i yeah. the fraction, i think i tttet— yeah. the fraction, i think i tttet we— yeah. the fraction, i think i think we need— the fraction, i think i think we need these things. i mean, and it's— think we need these things. i mean, and it's not— think we need these things. i mean, and it's not their- think we need these things. i mean, and it's not their fault that security has had to be so tight. i've never seen it tighter. and having been here for every royal wedding, it's stronger now than ever. i mean, you weren't blocked off. you could just walk the whole length of park and it's very of green park and it's very tough. i think it depends how tomorrow goes. it depends how the next year go. but we never thought when the queen was doing things or going to chelsea and they'd have to clear chelsea festival or the flower thing. they'd have to spend a fortune on security. we loved her. it's up to him. and i think he will because camilla is so great to get us to love them . well, it's
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get us to love them. well, it's an get us to love them. well, it's ee etsetete— get us to love them. well, it's an absolute thrill— get us to love them. well, it's an absolute thrill to- get us to love them. well, it's an absolute thrill to be- gi st; well, it's an absolute thrill to be here at the an absolute thrill to be here at tte eeteee— an absolute thrill to be here at tte eeteee ter— an absolute thrill to be here at the palace for the— an absolute thrill to be here at the palace for the coronation eeeettewe— the palace for the coronation countdown. and _ the palace for the coronation countdown. and it's a genuine ttrttt— countdown. and it's a genuine ttrttt. t— countdown. and it's a genuine thrill. a professional thrill to be accompanied— thrill. a professional thrill to be accompanied by two journalistic— be accompanied by two journalistic in tom be accompanied by two- journalistic-in tom bower journalistic titans in tom bower eet— journalistic titans in tom bower eet twe— journalistic titans in tom bower and eve pollard— journalistic titans in tom bower and eve pollard .— journalistic titans in tom bower and eve pollard . so thank you, and eve pollard. so thank you, tte.— and eve pollard. so thank you, twe. tet— and eve pollard. so thank you, eve. and thank— and eve pollard. so thank you, eve. and thank you, tom. good teet— eve. and thank you, tom. good teet eetee— eve. and thank you, tom. good luck exiting the— eve. and thank you, tom. good luck exiting the compound . and luck exiting the compound. and eve:— luck exiting the compound. and tte, tee-t— luck exiting the compound. and eve, don't forget— luck exiting the compound. and eve, don't forget your high wstttttty— eve, don't forget your high visibility jacket. and don't get tee-t— visibility jacket. and don't get tee-t eet— visibility jacket. and don't get don't get mistaken for a etemerees— don't get mistaken for a glamorous builder. look, you are wetettee— glamorous builder. look, you are wetettee eet— glamorous builder. look, you are watching and listening to our pre coronation— watching and listening to our pre coronation special. it's eereeettee— pre coronation special. it's coronation eve— pre coronation special. it's coronation eve on gb news coming up coronation eve on gb news coming ee te— coronation eve on gb news coming ee te my— coronation eve on gb news coming ee te my tte— coronation eve on gb news coming up in my big opinion, i'll give my werttet— up in my big opinion, i'll give my werttet ee— up in my big opinion, i'll give my verdict on whether the reign of my verdict on whether the reign et tree— my verdict on whether the reign of king charles— my verdict on whether the reign of king charles will be a success. plus,- of king charles will be a success. plus, more brilliant eeests— success. plus, more brilliant eeests eet— success. plus, more brilliant guests and more— success. plus, more brilliant guests and more big opinions in my tete— guests and more big opinions in my tete et— guests and more big opinions in my tete et tee— guests and more big opinions in my take at ten, i'll— guests and more big opinions in my take at ten, i'll be making the my take at ten, i'll be making tte ese— my take at ten, i'll be making tte ter— my take at ten, i'll be making the case for queen camilla. also wetttee— the case for queen camilla. also wetttee te— the case for queen camilla. also wetttee te tte— the case for queen camilla. also waiting in the wings, former teyet— waiting in the wings, former royal bodyguard ken wharfe, an and royal bodyguard ken wharfe, an eet tee— royal bodyguard ken wharfe, an eet tee reyet— royal bodyguard ken wharfe, an and top royal insider. prince tetrew-s— and top royal insider. prince andrew's best— and top royal insider. prince andrew's best mate. let's be tetest— andrew's best mate. let's be teeest, tts— andrew's best mate. let's be honest, his only— andrew's best mate. let's be honest, his only mate, lady vteterte— honest, his only mate, lady victoria hervey— honest, his only mate, lady victoria hervey and a very seeetet— victoria hervey and a very seeetet wtt— victoria hervey and a very special vip guest at 10:00, the oeeee— special vip guest at 10:00, the teeeee et— special vip guest at 10:00, the teeeee et us— special vip guest at 10:00, the queen of us showbiz royal and eetttteet— queen of us showbiz royal and
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political reporting— queen of us showbiz royal and political reporting , kinsey political reporting, kinsey setettett.— political reporting, kinsey schofield. she's flown in from la schofield. she's flown in from te te— schofield. she's flown in from te te teet— schofield. she's flown in from la la land and— schofield. she's flown in from la la land and she's with us in tte— la la land and she's with us in tte rete— la la land and she's with us in the rain here— la la land and she's with us in the rain here in— la la land and she's with us in the rain here in central london. ste— the rain here in central london. ste eeese-t— the rain here in central london. she doesn't know— the rain here in central london. she doesn't know what rain is. ste-tt— she doesn't know what rain is. seen te— she doesn't know what rain is. seen be very— she doesn't know what rain is. she'll be very excited. lots
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and that's a real worry going up . it and that's a real worry going up . tt ts— and that's a real worry going up . it is coronation— and that's a real worry going up . it is coronation eve and the eeeettewe— . it is coronation eve and the countdown to— . it is coronation eve and the countdown to the— . it is coronation eve and the countdown to the big day is teeeeetee. — countdown to the big day is happening. we've got ringside set — happening. we've got ringside set tt-s— happening. we've got ringside seats. it's the _ happening. we've got ringside seats. it's the biggest constitutional moment of the eeetery— constitutional moment of the eeetery se— constitutional moment of the eeetery se ter— constitutional moment of the century so far on— constitutional moment of the century so far on mark dolan teetett— century so far on mark dolan teetett te— century so far on mark dolan teetett te e— century so far on mark dolan tonight in a special show live trem— tonight in a special show live from buckingham palace, we've got from buckingham palace, we've eet tte— from buckingham palace, we've eet tte eeettts— from buckingham palace, we've eet tte eeettts ,— from buckingham palace, we've got the pundits , the royal got the pundits, the royal experts— got the pundits, the royal experts, tte— got the pundits, the royal experts, the journalists and the tteereeters— experts, the journalists and the biographers. and— experts, the journalists and the biographers. and we've got you, the biographers. and we've got you, tte greet— biographers. and we've got you, the great british— biographers. and we've got you, the great british public, for wtet— the great british public, for weet-mett— the great british public, for what night anticipation what is a night of anticipation , etettemeet— what is a night of anticipation , excitement celebration . , excitement and celebration. eemtee— , excitement and celebration. coming ee— , excitement and celebration. coming ee ttts— , excitement and celebration. coming up this hour in my big eetetee— coming up this hour in my big opinionr my— coming up this hour in my big opinion, my appraisal of our new meeet— opinion, my appraisal of our new met ts— opinion, my appraisal of our new monarch is king— opinion, my appraisal of our new monarch is king charles up to the monarch is king charles up to tte job?— monarch is king charles up to tte job? t— monarch is king charles up to the job? i will— monarch is king charles up to the job? i will be— monarch is king charles up to the job? i will be giving my eeeeeteeette— the job? i will be giving my unapologetic verdict shortly .
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plus, we've got top historian newt— plus, we've got top historian david oldroyd,— plus, we've got top historian david oldroyd, bolt socialite eet— david oldroyd, bolt socialite eet trteee— david oldroyd, bolt socialite and prince andrew's best mate treeeer— and prince andrew's best mate treeeer et— and prince andrew's best mate dropper of truth— and prince andrew's best mate dropper of truth bombs, lady vteterte— dropper of truth bombs, lady victoria hervey.— dropper of truth bombs, lady victoria hervey. and at diana's termer— victoria hervey. and at diana's former bodyguard, ken wharfe. all former bodyguard, ken wharfe. ttt wttt— former bodyguard, ken wharfe. ttt wttt me— former bodyguard, ken wharfe. all with me here— former bodyguard, ken wharfe. all with me here live at the eeteee. — all with me here live at the eeteee. tee— all with me here live at the palace. you won't want to miss a seeeet— palace. you won't want to miss a seeeet et— palace. you won't want to miss a seeeet et tte— palace. you won't want to miss a second of the action. we have got— second of the action. we have eet rteestte— second of the action. we have got ringside seats, but first, tte— got ringside seats, but first, the headlines— got ringside seats, but first, the headlines with bethany elsey . mert— the headlines with bethany elsey . mai, tteet— the headlines with bethany elsey . mark, thank you. _ the headlines with bethany elsey . mark, thank you. i'm bethany elsey with your top stories from the gb newsroom this evening. the labour party has made significant gains in the local elections in england as and is now the largest party at local government level , with just now the largest party at local government level, with just four
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out of 230 councils still left to declare their results. labour has so far gained control of 22, while the liberal democrats have gained 12. the conservative party, though, have have lost control of 48 councils and more than 1000 seats. the prime minister , rishi sunak, has minister, rishi sunak, has admitted the results are disappointing. the message i am heanng disappointing. the message i am hearing from people tonight is that they want us to focus on their priorities and they want us to deliver for them and that's halving inflation, that's about halving inflation, growing reducing growing the economy, reducing debt, cutting waiting lists and stopping the boats. that's what people stopping the boats. that's what eeeete-eteet— stopping the boats. that's what eeeete-eteet .— stopping the boats. that's what people-about . that's- g that's what people about . that's what people care about. that's what ttey— people care about. that's what ttey-es— people care about. that's what ttey-es te— people care about. that's what they-us to deliver. - they want us to deliver. and ttet-s— they want us to deliver. and- that's—government that's what i and the government are that's what i and the government ere-wert— that's what i and the government ere-wert very— that's what i and the government are-work very hard- that's what i and the government are work very hard to are going to work very hard to do are going to work very hard to te . — are going to work very hard to do . meanwhile,— are going to work very hard to do . meanwhile, sir- are going to work very hard to do . iitzirititt" " " do. meanwhile, sir keir starmer believes the labour party is on track to win a majority in the next election when we've next general election when we've just medway for the first just taken medway for the first time since 1998, that is a very , very good night for the labour party and it's the same story elsewhere , the same story in elsewhere, the same story in plymouth in stoke up in
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middlesbrough. and these are the key battlegrounds_ middlesbrough. and these are the key battlegrounds as— middlesbrough. and these are the key battlegrounds as we- it. ::g and these are the key battlegrounds as we go into the key battlegrounds as we go into tte eett— key battlegrounds as we go into the next election.— key battlegrounds as we go into the next election. and the lib dem — the next election. and the lib dem tear...— the next election. and the lib dem leader, sir— the next election. and the lib dem leader, sir ed davey, said the conservatives— dem leader, sir ed davey, said the conservatives should be werrtet— the conservatives should be werrtet eet— the conservatives should be worried and these are some of test— worried and these are some of test eer— worried and these are some of our best ever results. "tigt g our best ever results. they give us a great foundation for the next general election. they'll be conservative mps across the blue wall seats across many of these areas who will be really , these areas who will be really, really worried now that the liberal democrats could beat them at the next general election. our top story election. our other top story ttts— election. our other top story ttts eweetee— election. our other top story this evening, on— election. our other top story this evening, on the- i tit" our other top story this evening, on the eve of the trees— this evening, on the eve of the king's coronation,— this evening, on the eve of the king's coronation, the king and the king's coronation, the king and tte trteee— king's coronation, the king and the prince and— king's coronation, the king and the prince and princess of wales tete— the prince and princess of wales tewe ereetet— the prince and princess of wales have greeted well—wishers on the mett— have greeted well—wishers on the mett . — have greeted well—wishers on the mall . congratulations.- have greeted well—wishers on the mall . g /tit mall. congratulations. you yvette cooper you look what humour in the flesh . and it's humour in the flesh. and it's best to look for king charles made a surprise appearance to meet with some of the thousands gathered outside buckingham palace . william and kate joined palace. william and kate joined the palace. william and kate joined tte ter— palace. william and kate joined tte ter tree— palace. william and kate joined the for king the— i william and kate joined the for king the walkabout. they eretset— the for king the walkabout. they eretset tte— the for king the walkabout. they eretset tte eerty— the for king the walkabout. they praised the party atmosphere and teserttet— praised the party atmosphere and described the— praised the party atmosphere and described the coronation as a greet— described the coronation as a greet memeet— described the coronation as a great moment of— described the coronation as a great moment of celebration. the
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trio great moment of celebration. the trte steet— great moment of celebration. the trio shook hands— great moment of celebration. the trio shook hands and took setttes— trio shook hands and took selfies with— trio shook hands and took selfies with the crowds and were— selfies with the crowds and ttere wee— selfies with the crowds and there were cheers of god save tte— there were cheers of god save tte kinse— there were cheers of god save tte kingr tte— there were cheers of god save the king, the royalists who've teee— the king, the royalists who've teee eemetee— the king, the royalists who've been camping out, hoping to eetet— been camping out, hoping to eetet e— been camping out, hoping to catch a glimpse— been camping out, hoping to catch a glimpse of history being mete— catch a glimpse of history being mete ttts— catch a glimpse of history being made this weekend , described it made this weekend, described it as a once in a lifetime eeeerteetty— as a once in a lifetime opportunity -- as a once in a lifetime opportunity . we were literally opportunity. we were literally test— opportunity. we were literally test wetttet— opportunity. we were literally just walking back to the hotel eet— just walking back to the hotel eet ttet— just walking back to the hotel eet ttee we— just walking back to the hotel and then we just— just walking back to the hotel and then we just saw everybody eteertet— and then we just saw everybody eteertet eet— and then we just saw everybody cheering and came over and then tte— cheering and came over and then tte ttet— cheering and came over and then saw the king and— cheering and came over and then saw the king and that shake of the saw the king and that shake of tte teet— saw the king and that shake of tte teet . — saw the king and that shake of the hand . you've— saw the king and that shake of the hand . /tit gtit saw the king and that shake of the hand . /tvi gtit saw the king and that shake of the hand . v/ti git the hand. you've got to shake the hand. you've got to shake the hand. you've got to shake the hand through the crowd. and i got to shake his hand. i think this britain best. this is britain at its best. you everybody's this is britain at its best. - you-everybody's nattering you know, everybody's nattering to you know, everybody's nattering te—ttere-s- you know, everybody's nattering te—ttere-s ee- you know, everybody's nattering to_there's no stiff. to everybody. there's no stiff upper lip. it's just lovely . we upper lip. it's just lovely. we just to be a of just wanted to be a part of ttstery— just wanted to be a part of ttstery eet— just wanted to be a part of history and enjoy the you know, eetety— history and enjoy the you know, eetety tees— history and enjoy the you know, nobody does it— history and enjoy the you know, nobody does it better than the tsetse.— nobody does it better than the trtttst. se— nobody does it better than the british. so we— nobody does it better than the british. so we wanted to see all the excitement— british. so we wanted to see all the excitement and be a part of it the excitement and be a part of t . — the excitement and be a part of t . te— the excitement and be a part of t . te etter— the excitement and be a part of it . in other news,— the excitement and be a part of it . in other news, the- the excitement and be a part of it. in other news, the world health organisation has announced that covid 19 no longer represent it's a global health emergency . it's a step health emergency. it's a step towards the end of a pandemic that has killed nearly 7 million people globally. but the director insists countries shouldn't let down their guard,
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mourning the virus is here to stay . you're up to date on gb stay. you're up to date on gb news. now it's back to . news. now it's back to. mark jumped me for and welcome back to mark dolan. tonight it's eereeettee— to mark dolan. tonight it's coronation eve— to mark dolan. tonight it's coronation eve .— to mark dolan. tonight it's coronation eve . roll- t tonight it's coronation eve . roll back, coronation eve. roll back, tetts. — coronation eve. roll back, tetts. ttts— coronation eve. roll back, folks. this is— coronation eve. roll back, folks. this is live telly. let's tete— folks. this is live telly. let's tete tt— folks. this is live telly. let's take it from _ folks. this is live telly. let's take it from the— folks. this is live telly. let's take it from the top. yes teteet. — take it from the top. yes teteet. we— take it from the top. yes indeed. we are live at the eeteee— indeed. we are live at the eeteee. tts— indeed. we are live at the palace. it's coronation eve and tte— palace. it's coronation eve and the countdown— palace. it's coronation eve and the countdown to— palace. it's coronation eve and the countdown to the biggest constitutional— the countdown to the biggest constitutional moment of the eeetery— constitutional moment of the eeetery-ee— constitutional moment of the century-on mark- constitutional moment of the century on mark dolan century so far on mark dolan teetttt— century so far on mark dolan teetttt te— century so far on mark dolan tonight in special show live trem— tonight in special show live trem tte— tonight in special show live from the palace.— tonight in special show live from the palace. we've got the eeettts— from the palace. we've got the eeettts tte— from the palace. we've got the pundits, the royal— from the palace. we've got the pundits, the royal experts, the teereettsts— pundits, the royal experts, the journalists, insiders and journalists, the insiders and tte— journalists, the insiders and the biographers. and we've got you,— the biographers. and we've got yee-treet— the biographers. and we've got you,-great british- the biographers. and we've got you, great british public, you, the great british public, for you, the great british public, ter wtet— you, the great british public, ter wtet ts— you, the great british public, for what is a— you, the great british public, for what is a night of anticipation,- for what is a night of anticipation, excitement and eetetrettee— anticipation, excitement and celebration in— anticipation, excitement and celebration in my big opinion, my eeeretset— celebration in my big opinion, my eeeretset et— celebration in my big opinion, my appraisal of our new monarch, is my appraisal of our new monarch, ts te— my appraisal of our new monarch, ts te ee— my appraisal of our new monarch, ts te ee te— my appraisal of our new monarch, ts te ee te tte— my appraisal of our new monarch, is he up to the job?— my appraisal of our new monarch, is he up to the job? i'll be giving— is he up to the job? i'll be giving my— is he up to the job? i'll be giving my unapologetic verdict in giving my unapologetic verdict te test— giving my unapologetic verdict
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te test e— giving my unapologetic verdict in just a moment. in my take at tent— in just a moment. in my take at tee ttt— in just a moment. in my take at tee ttt te— in just a moment. in my take at ten, i'll be making— in just a moment. in my take at ten, i'll be making the case for teeee— ten, i'll be making the case for queen camilla.— ten, i'll be making the case for queen camilla. it's— ten, i'll be making the case for queen camilla. it's my view she wttt— queen camilla. it's my view she wttt te— queen camilla. it's my view she wttt te tte— queen camilla. it's my view she will be the jewel— queen camilla. it's my view she will be the jewel in the crown of will be the jewel in the crown et ttts— will be the jewel in the crown et ttts ew— will be the jewel in the crown of this new monarchy . we'll also of this new monarchy. we'll also be teteet— of this new monarchy. we'll also te teteet ty— of this new monarchy. we'll also be joined by prince— of this new monarchy. we'll also be joined by prince andrew's test— be joined by prince andrew's test mete,— be joined by prince andrew's best mate, socialite and dropper of best mate, socialite and dropper et trett— best mate, socialite and dropper of truth bombs,— best mate, socialite and dropper of truth bombs, lady victoria tewey, — of truth bombs, lady victoria tewey, e— of truth bombs, lady victoria hervey, a historian that knows wtet— hervey, a historian that knows wtet te-s— hervey, a historian that knows what he's talking— hervey, a historian that knows what he's talking about. david ettreyt— what he's talking about. david ottreyt ion,— what he's talking about. david oldroyd bolt, ex—royal journalist.— oldroyd bolt, ex—royal journalist. linda jubilee and meets— journalist. linda jubilee and diana's former— journalist. linda jubilee and diana's former bodyguard , ken diana's former bodyguard, ken wterte. — diana's former bodyguard, ken wterte. ttes— diana's former bodyguard, ken wharfe. plus the— diana's former bodyguard, ken wharfe. plus the queen of us stewttz— wharfe. plus the queen of us stewttz eet— wharfe. plus the queen of us showbiz and royal reporting , showbiz and royal reporting, ttesey— showbiz and royal reporting, kinsey schofield and i'm tetettet— kinsey schofield and i'm delighted to— kinsey schofield and i'm delighted to say, last but not teest— delighted to say, last but not teest ,— delighted to say, last but not teest , etter— delighted to say, last but not least , after ten,— delighted to say, last but not least, after ten, we'll be teteet— least, after ten, we'll be teteet twe— least, after ten, we'll be joined live here down at the eeteee— joined live here down at the eeteee ty— joined live here down at the eeteee ty e— joined live here down at the palace by a man— joined live here down at the palace by a man that knows the eyes— palace by a man that knows the reyets tetter— palace by a man that knows the royals better than _ palace by a man that knows the royals better than they know themselves.— royals better than they know themselves. diana's former teter— themselves. diana's former butler,-burrell.- themselves. diana's former butler, burrell. what butler, paul burrell. what a tee— butler, paul burrell. what a ttee ee— butler, paul burrell. what a ttee ee .— butler, paul burrell. what a ttee ee . ttt— butler, paul burrell. what a line up . all of— butler, paul burrell. what a line up . all of that tonight on line up. all of that tonight on wet— line up. all of that tonight on ttert eetee— line up. all of that tonight on mark dolan tonight. but i want to mark dolan tonight. but i want te teer— mark dolan tonight. but i want te teer trem — mark dolan tonight. but i want to hear from you— mark dolan tonight. but i want to hear from you throughout the stew— to hear from you throughout the stew, ttert— to hear from you throughout the stew, ttert et— to hear from you throughout the show, mark at gb— to hear from you throughout the show, mark at gb news .uk. you wee-t— show, mark at gb news .uk. you wee-t weet— show, mark at gb news .uk. you wee-t weet te— show, mark at gb news .uk. you won't want to miss— show, mark at gb news .uk. you won't want to miss a second of tte— won't want to miss a second of tte eettee. — won't want to miss a second of the action. we're— won't want to miss a second of the action. we're inside. we've got— the action. we're inside. we've tet tte— the action. we're inside. we've eet tte test— the action. we're inside. we've got the best seats— the action. we're inside. we've got the best seats in the house. it's got the best seats in the house. tt-s stewttme— got the best seats in the house. it's showtime. let's— got the best seats in the house. it's showtime. let's go .
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tough gig. how do you follow the teeeee— tough gig. how do you follow the teeeee teeee— tough gig. how do you follow the queen? queen elizabeth is a eeeteeter— queen? queen elizabeth is a contender for— queen? queen elizabeth is a contender for the greatest meeeret— contender for the greatest monarch the— contender for the greatest monarch the country has ever eet— monarch the country has ever seen and one of— monarch the country has ever seen and one of the greatest trttees— seen and one of the greatest trttees et— seen and one of the greatest britons of the— seen and one of the greatest britons of the 20th century. seeme— britons of the 20th century. second, perhaps only to winston eeteett— second, perhaps only to winston churchill. well,— second, perhaps only to winston churchill. well, the truth is, you— churchill. well, the truth is, yee tee-t— churchill. well, the truth is, you don't follow— churchill. well, the truth is, you don't follow the queen you sewe— you don't follow the queen you serve ter— you don't follow the queen you serve her legacy— you don't follow the queen you serve her legacy ,— you don't follow the queen you serve her legacy , which is serve her legacy, which is a meeerety— serve her legacy, which is a meeerety te— serve her legacy, which is a monarchy in rude health, eeteytet— monarchy in rude health, enjoying great public support , enjoying great public support, and enjoying great public support, eet e— enjoying great public support, and a monarchy— enjoying great public support, and a monarchy admired not just at and a monarchy admired not just et teee,— and a monarchy admired not just et teme, tet— and a monarchy admired not just at home, but abroad, reflecting tetere-s— at home, but abroad, reflecting britain's history— at home, but abroad, reflecting britain's history and its ttemeer— britain's history and its glamour, its— britain's history and its glamour, its style , its soft glamour, its style, its soft ttetemette— glamour, its style, its soft diplomatic power, its values and its traditions.— diplomatic power, its values and its traditions. charles can't be tttzetett— its traditions. charles can't be elizabeth 2.0.— its traditions. charles can't be elizabeth 2.0. a— its traditions. charles can't be elizabeth 2.0. a sequel just tset— elizabeth 2.0. a sequel just isn't possible— elizabeth 2.0. a sequel just isn't possible .— elizabeth 2.0. a sequel just isn't possible . no scriptwriter isn't possible. no scriptwriter eeett— isn't possible. no scriptwriter eeett eee— isn't possible. no scriptwriter could pen that— isn't possible. no scriptwriter could pen that one. so charles
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tes— could pen that one. so charles tes e— could pen that one. so charles tes e eettee— could pen that one. so charles has a unique challenge. he's got to has a unique challenge. he's got te te— has a unique challenge. he's got te te tte— has a unique challenge. he's got to be the same,— has a unique challenge. he's got to be the same, yet— has a unique challenge. he's got to be the same, yet different as wttt— to be the same, yet different as wttt erewees— to be the same, yet different as with previous incumbents. he mest— with previous incumbents. he must fastidious— with previous incumbents. he must fastidious ,— with previous incumbents. he must fastidious , stay out of must fastidious, stay out of eettttes— must fastidious, stay out of eetttes. tts— must fastidious, stay out of politics. his zealous enthusiasm for politics. his zealous enthusiasm ter eet— politics. his zealous enthusiasm ter eet ere— politics. his zealous enthusiasm for net zero, his— politics. his zealous enthusiasm for net zero, his war on modern erettteetere— for net zero, his war on modern architecture and— for net zero, his war on modern architecture and his fondness for unelected_ architecture and his fondness for unelected elites like the wett— for unelected elites like the world economic— for unelected elites like the world economic forum, must be a term— world economic forum, must be a tttet et— world economic forum, must be a tttet et tte— world economic forum, must be a tttet et tte eest.— world economic forum, must be a thing of the past. if— world economic forum, must be a thing of the past. if there is so thing of the past. if there is se meet— thing of the past. if there is so much as a— thing of the past. if there is so much as a hint of politics trem— so much as a hint of politics trem ttts— so much as a hint of politics from this man,— so much as a hint of politics from this man, it— so much as a hint of politics from this man, it will be game ter— from this man, it will be game ter ttm — from this man, it will be game over for him and— from this man, it will be game over for him and the whole royal trey-eet— over for him and the whole royal trey-eet .— over for him and the whole royal trey-eet . t— over for him and the whole royal trey-eet . t ter— over for him and the whole royal project . i for one,— over for him and the whole royal project . i for one, will not project. i for one, will not eeeeet— project. i for one, will not eeeeet e— project. i for one, will not accept a politicised monarch . accept a politicised monarch. tet— accept a politicised monarch. tet se— accept a politicised monarch. tet se ter— accept a politicised monarch. but so far the— accept a politicised monarch. but so far the signs are looking 90011— but so far the signs are looking goodr se— but so far the signs are looking goodr tte— but so far the signs are looking good, since the terribly sad eesstet— good, since the terribly sad eesstee et— good, since the terribly sad passing of the— good, since the terribly sad passing of the queen in my view, etertes— passing of the queen in my view, charles hasn't— passing of the queen in my view, charles hasn't put— passing of the queen in my view, charles hasn't put a foot wrong. tte— charles hasn't put a foot wrong. tte eemeettetee— charles hasn't put a foot wrong. the campaigning prince has demonstrated— the campaigning prince has demonstrated a— the campaigning prince has demonstrated a noticeable change in demonstrated a noticeable change te eeereeet— demonstrated a noticeable change te eeereeet eet— demonstrated a noticeable change in approach and tone since tettet— in approach and tone since tettet tte— in approach and tone since taking the crown on. in an teterwew— taking the crown on. in an interview in— taking the crown on. in an interview in 2018. when asked if he interview in 2018. when asked if te weett— interview in 2018. when asked if te weett te— interview in 2018. when asked if te weett be e— interview in 2018. when asked if he would be a politically active ttet,— he would be a politically active kingt te— he would be a politically active
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ttet, te sad,— he would be a politically active king, he said, of— he would be a politically active king, he said, of course not. re— king, he said, of course not. re eet— king, he said, of course not. i'm not stupid— king, he said, of course not. i'm not stupid and stupid . he is i'm not stupid and stupid. he is not i'm not stupid and stupid. he is eet wtet— i'm not stupid and stupid. he is eet wtet te— i'm not stupid and stupid. he is not what he is— i'm not stupid and stupid. he is not what he is hard working, eemmtttet,— not what he is hard working, committed, articulate , highly committed, articulate, highly knowledgeable— committed, articulate, highly knowledgeable and empathetic. i tttet— knowledgeable and empathetic. i tttet te-s— knowledgeable and empathetic. i tttet te-s eetet— knowledgeable and empathetic. i think he's going to smash it. etertes— think he's going to smash it. charles will— think he's going to smash it. charles will give— think he's going to smash it. charles will give this his all eet— charles will give this his all eet ett— charles will give this his all eet ett et— charles will give this his all and all of us— charles will give this his all and all of us will be mightily tretetet— and all of us will be mightily tretetet .— and all of us will be mightily tretetet . se— and all of us will be mightily grateful . so will— and all of us will be mightily grateful . so will i pledge my grateful. so will i pledge my ettetteeee— grateful. so will i pledge my allegiance to— grateful. so will i pledge my allegiance to this new king? of t— allegiance to this new king? of course i will.— allegiance to this new king? of course i will. if— allegiance to this new king? of course i will. if you want me to get— course i will. if you want me to get e— course i will. if you want me to get e tettee,— course i will. if you want me to get a tattoo, i'll— course i will. if you want me to get a tattoo, i'll do— course i will. if you want me to get a tattoo, i'll do it. tttteett— get a tattoo, i'll do it. although we'd have to negotiate wttt— although we'd have to negotiate wttt ttrs. — although we'd have to negotiate with mrs. dolan— although we'd have to negotiate with mrs. dolan where it would go with mrs. dolan where it would 90 -— with mrs. dolan where it would 90 . wete— with mrs. dolan where it would te . wetre teety— with mrs. dolan where it would go . we're lucky to— with mrs. dolan where it would go . we're lucky to have a king go. we're lucky to have a king wte-s— go. we're lucky to have a king wte-s tet— go. we're lucky to have a king who's got something about him. wte— who's got something about him. wte tes— who's got something about him. who has achieved— who's got something about him. who has achieved big things in his who has achieved big things in tts tte,— who has achieved big things in his life, including— who has achieved big things in his life, including his charities— his life, including his charities ,— his life, including his charities , his stance on charities, his stance on sustainable— charities, his stance on sustainable farming and the treaty— sustainable farming and the highly successful duchy orteteets— highly successful duchy originals brand, which actually metes— originals brand, which actually metes meeey— originals brand, which actually makes money. imagine that an entrepreneurial— makes money. imagine that an entrepreneurial prince, quite the entrepreneurial prince, quite tte rertty— entrepreneurial prince, quite tte rertty .— entrepreneurial prince, quite the rarity. he's— entrepreneurial prince, quite the rarity . he's not a robot. the rarity. he's not a robot. te-s— the rarity. he's not a robot. te-s eet— the rarity. he's not a robot. te-s eet e— the rarity. he's not a robot. he's not a cardboard cut—out. he tes— he's not a cardboard cut—out. he tes erteetetes— he's not a cardboard cut—out. he has principles. he— he's not a cardboard cut—out. he has principles. he has values. te-s— has principles. he has values. te-s tet— has principles. he has values. te-s tet e— has principles. he has values. he's got a brain— has principles. he has values. he's got a brain and a heart. he
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eeres. tts— he's got a brain and a heart. he cares . his constitutional role cares. his constitutional role wttt— cares. his constitutional role wttt rttttty— cares. his constitutional role will rightly temper his erettteet— will rightly temper his political impulses, which we all teew— political impulses, which we all teew eteet— political impulses, which we all teew eteet .— political impulses, which we all know about . but— political impulses, which we all know about . but we've got a man know about. but we've got a man of know about. but we've got a man et setsteeee— know about. but we've got a man of substance moving into that tettttet— of substance moving into that building behind— of substance moving into that building behind me and that's no bad building behind me and that's no tet ttet.— building behind me and that's no tet tttet. ttwe— building behind me and that's no bad thing. king charles is going to bad thing. king charles is going te te— bad thing. king charles is going te te ttet. — bad thing. king charles is going to be king. great— bad thing. king charles is going to be king. great and this coronation— to be king. great and this coronation post brexit post eeeteete— coronation post brexit post pandemic and— coronation post brexit post pandemic and of course, post ttzetett— pandemic and of course, post elizabeth promises so much . but elizabeth promises so much. but etertes— elizabeth promises so much. but etertes eee-t— elizabeth promises so much. but charles can't do— elizabeth promises so much. but charles can't do this on his we— charles can't do this on his own. we must— charles can't do this on his own. we must come together as a eemmeetty— own. we must come together as a eemmeetty eet— own. we must come together as a eemmeetty eet e— own. we must come together as a community and a nation to seeeert— community and a nation to seeeert ttts— community and a nation to support this dynamic new king as he support this dynamic new king as te eewtetes— support this dynamic new king as he navigates britain through an etetttet— he navigates britain through an etetttet ew— he navigates britain through an exciting new chapter in our ttstery,— exciting new chapter in our ttstery, te— exciting new chapter in our history, he needs our backup ttet— history, he needs our backup ttet etertes— history, he needs our backup king charles is— history, he needs our backup king charles is no spaniel, and tomorrow he's— king charles is no spaniel, and tomorrow he's top _ king charles is no spaniel, and tomorrow he's top dog . tomorrow he's top dog. wtet— tomorrow he's top dog. wtet ere— tomorrow he's top dog. what are your feelings about ttet— what are your feelings about king charles?— what are your feelings about king charles? is— what are your feelings about king charles? is he going to be a king charles? is he going to be e treet— king charles? is he going to be e greet king-7— king charles? is he going to be a great king? let— king charles? is he going to be a great king? let me know. mark etwtwstt— a great king? let me know. mark etwtwstt tey— a great king? let me know. mark
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gbnews.uk kay reacting to my big eeetee— gbnews.uk kay reacting to my big eetetee ts— gbnews.uk kay reacting to my big eetetee ts e— gbnews.uk kay reacting to my big opinionr ts e mee— gbnews.uk kay reacting to my big opinion, is a man that knows the reyets— opinion, is a man that knows the reyets tetter— opinion, is a man that knows the royals better than— opinion, is a man that knows the royals better than most former tetyeeert— royals better than most former tetyeeert te— royals better than most former bodyguard to princess diana and testsetttet— bodyguard to princess diana and bestselling author— bodyguard to princess diana and bestselling author and commentator ken wharfe. hi, ken . treet— commentator ken wharfe. hi, ken . ereet te— commentator ken wharfe. hi, ken . ereet te see— commentator ken wharfe. hi, ken . great to see you.— commentator ken wharfe. hi, ken . great to see you. good eeeret.— . great to see you. good evening. you've avoided the tee-we— evening. you've avoided the rain. you've got— evening. you've avoided the rain. you've got some kind of teees— rain. you've got some kind of teetes ttmtet. — rain. you've got some kind of genius timing. well yeah, thanks to genius timing. well yeah, thanks te tte— genius timing. well yeah, thanks te tte et— genius timing. well yeah, thanks to the gb news— genius timing. well yeah, thanks to the gb news crew . tv/tzitir to the gb news crew. yes, trttteet— to the gb news crew. yes, brilliant. well, look, it's great to have you here. and the etmesetere— great to have you here. and the atmosphere out— great to have you here. and the atmosphere out there- great to have you here. and the atmosphere out there is- atmosphere out there is eteetrte. — atmosphere out there is electric. yeah,- atmosphere out there is electric. tv/tzirit" . gtirit. electric. yeah, it's great. i mean, listen, it's building up. i rightly just said i think as you rightly just said there in your introduction, to be, an an amazing be, you know, an an amazing event. mean, i was listening event. i mean, i was listening to this to the news earlier this evening. know, is the evening. you know, this is the biggest event that biggest public order event that scotland yard have ever held . scotland yard have ever held. you know, with over 11,000 eetee— you know, with over 11,000 police officers— you know, with over 11,000 police officers on duty. so, you teee— police officers on duty. so, you teew ,— police officers on duty. so, you teew , ett— police officers on duty. so, you know , all the— police officers on duty. so, you know , all the sceptics saying, know, all the sceptics saying, wett— know, all the sceptics saying, wen, yee— know, all the sceptics saying, well, you know— know, all the sceptics saying, well, you know what, if things go well, you know what, if things te wreet— well, you know what, if things ge wreeg t— well, you know what, if things go wrong, i think— well, you know what, if things go wrong, i think to be quite treet— go wrong, i think to be quite treet wttt— go wrong, i think to be quite frank with you,— go wrong, i think to be quite frank with you, the expertise ttet— frank with you, the expertise ttet ttet— frank with you, the expertise that that has— frank with you, the expertise that that has been with the yard for that that has been with the yard ter se— that that has been with the yard ter se-yeers— that that has been with the yard for so _years now,- that that has been with the yard for so years now, given, for so many years now, given, yee— for so many years now, given, yee-tte— for so many years now, given, you _the .queen's. you know, the late queen's teeeret— you know, the late queen's funeral-year,- you know, the late queen's funeral-year, all- you know, the late queen's funeral year, all these funeral last year, all these ceremonial— funeral last year, all these ceremonial-that- funeral last year, all these ceremonial that run ceremonial events that run yeerty— ceremonial events that run yeerty-eet- ceremonial events that run yeerty-eetittei ceremonial events that run- yearly-and.the other yearly anyway and all the other meter— yearly anyway and all the other major weddings,— yearly anyway and all the other major weddings, etc, that have teneme— major weddings, etc, that have teggeeet, yee— major weddings, etc, that have happened, you know, i think the wet— happened, you know, i think the
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ttet-seeertty— happened, you know, i think the met security service are met and the security service are in met and the security service are te e— met and the security service are te e very— met and the security service are te e wery geet— met and the security service are in a very good position to here mete— in a very good position to here mete-e— in a very good position to here mete-e greet— in a very good position to here make-a great day.- in a very good position to here make a great day. but, make this a great day. but, you teew— make this a great day. but, you teew tt— make this a great day. but, you teew tt ts— make this a great day. but, you teew tt ts es— make this a great day. but, you know, it is, as you— make this a great day. but, you know, it is, as you said in your tetreteettee— know, it is, as you said in your introduction, you— know, it is, as you said in your introduction, you know, here is a introduction, you know, here is e—trteee- introduction, you know, here is e—trteee etl introduction, you know, here is. a _ prince of wales a man that was a prince of wales for a man that was a prince of wales ter se— a man that was a prince of wales ter se teeg— a man that was a prince of wales ter se teeg, yee— a man that was a prince of wales for so long, you know, always tte—tet- for so long, you know, always tte—tet tttsi for so long, you know, always. the—and this is the king in waiting. and this is his the king in waiting. and this is tts memeet— the king in waiting. and this is his moment. and,— the king in waiting. and this is his moment. and, you know, i you teew— his moment. and, you know, i you teew-ere very- his moment. and, you know, i you teewite-ere very- his moment. and, you know, i you know, to say, are very his moment. and, you know, i you know, to say, well,a very his moment. and, you know, i you know, to say, well, yesry his moment. and, you know, i you know, to say, well, yes ,' his moment. and, you know, i you know, to say, well, yes , he active to say, well, yes, he wttt. — active to say, well, yes, he wttt. te— active to say, well, yes, he will. he won't— active to say, well, yes, he will. he won't or- active to say, well, yes, he will. he won't or whatever. but i will. he won't or whatever. but tltttet— will. he won't or whatever. but tltttet eet— will. he won't or whatever. but tltttet eet t— will. he won't or whatever. but i.think and i agree- will. he won't or whatever. but i think and i agree you i do think and i agree with you ttet— i do think and i agree with you ttet t— i do think and i agree with you ttet t tttet— i do think and i agree with you that i think that— i do think and i agree with you that i think that the country now needs someone like him with that i think that the country novhisteds someone like him with that i think that the country novhis ideas)meone like him with that i think that the country novhis ideas ,neone like him with that i think that the country novhis ideas , particularlyiim with that i think that the country novhis ideas , particularly withiith all his ideas, particularly with ettmete— all his ideas, particularly with climate change.— all his ideas, particularly with climate change. i— all his ideas, particularly with climate change. i agree with you,— climate change. i agree with yee, ettteegt— climate change. i agree with you, although in— climate change. i agree with you, although in a way i'm eeteetty— you, although in a way i'm actually rather— you, although in a way i'm actually rather scared . article actually rather scared. article as actually rather scared. article es te— actually rather scared. article es te tew— actually rather scared. article es te tew we— actually rather scared. article as to how we might play this one teeeese— as to how we might play this one teeeese te-s— as to how we might play this one because he's so— as to how we might play this one because he's so vehemently, you teew— because he's so vehemently, you teew ,— because he's so vehemently, you teew , teee— because he's so vehemently, you teew , teee te— because he's so vehemently, you know , keen to bring this about. know, keen to bring this about. tet— know, keen to bring this about. tet es— know, keen to bring this about. tet es yee— know, keen to bring this about. tet es yee sew— know, keen to bring this about. but as you say, you know, gettteetty— but as you say, you know, politically it— but as you say, you know, politically it might be a grettem. — politically it might be a problem. so— politically it might be a problem. so who actually who tees— problem. so who actually who tees te— problem. so who actually who tees te tee— problem. so who actually who does he do?-does- problem. so who actually who does he do? does he give does he do? who does he give ttts— does he do? who does he give ttts to,— does he do? who does he give ttts te, te— does he do? who does he give this to, to act— does he do? who does he give this to, to act on— does he do? who does he give this to, to act on his behalf? tet— this to, to act on his behalf? tet ttts— this to, to act on his behalf? tet ttts ts— this to, to act on his behalf? and this is where- this to, to act on his behalf? and this is where the prince of wetes— and this is where the prince of wetes eew— and this is where the prince of wales now comes— and this is where the prince of wales now comes into play with wtttem. — wales now comes into play with wtttem. t— wales now comes into play with william. i think,— wales now comes into play with william. i think, you know, this is william. i think, you know, this ts e— william. i think, you know, this ts e rete— william. i think, you know, this is a role that— william. i think, you know, this is a role that i— william. i think, you know, this is a role that i think he could etetteege— is a role that i think he could challenge and— is a role that i think he could challenge and take and challenge and take on and regreseet— challenge and take on and represent-carry- challenge and take on and represent carry his father's represent and carry his father's ttees. — represent and carry his father's ttees. wttt— represent and carry his father's ideas. will he— represent and carry his father's ideas. will he want- represent and carry his father's ideas. �*ft�* .. t:tit " ideas. will he want to do his bidding father , bidding for his father, particularly given that the net
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zero agenda is contentious? i mean, it's a political issue . mean, it's a political issue. some people are concerned, obviously , you know, there's the obviously, you know, there's the scientific view that the planet is heating up, that we've to is heating up, that we've got to get down. get the carbon emissions down. but to tackle that but any policies to tackle that are going to affect people's lives, will affect the lives, they will affect the economy . they affect economy. they will affect perhaps freedoms . that's not perhaps our freedoms. that's not the of a king or even a the domain of a king or even a prince of wales, is it? well no, it's not. well, not that he has an it's not. well, not that he has ee ttet— it's not. well, not that he has ee ta... etert— it's not. well, not that he has an idea, mark. i— e well, not that he has an idea, mark. i mean, he he tetewes— an idea, mark. i mean, he he believes,-all_ an idea, mark. i mean, he he believes,-all.us,- an idea, mark. i mean, he he believes, all us, that believes, like all of us, that ttere— believes, like all of us, that tterele— believes, like all of us, that there-a problem- believes, like all of us, that there a problem here. you there is a problem here. you teew,— there is a problem here. you teew—yee- there is a problem here. you. know,_you cannot there is a problem here. you- know,_you cannot be know, i, you know, you cannot be a know, i, you know, you cannot be e teeter. — know, i, you know, you cannot be e teeter. t— know, i, you know, you cannot be eteeter. t meee— know, i, you know, you cannot be a denier. i mean, there is a erettem— a denier. i mean, there is a problem with— a denier. i mean, there is a problem with this planet now teeeese— problem with this planet now because-all— problem with this planet now because all that's happening because of all that's happening to because of all that's happening te rt.— because of all that's happening te tt. tee— because of all that's happening to it. you know,— because of all that's happening to it. you know, we dates to it. you know, we have dates set— to it. you know, we have dates set te— to it. you know, we have dates set te tte— to it. you know, we have dates set in the diary— to it. you know, we have dates set in the diary that we have ttts— set in the diary that we have ttts-et— set in the diary that we have this-of zero,— set in the diary that we have this-of zero, you- set in the diary that we have this of zero, you know, this sort of zero, you know, commitment. _ this sort of zero, you know, commitment. .in- this sort of zero, you know, commitment. in fact, nothing commitment. but in fact, nothing reetty— commitment. but in fact, nothing seems really happening . seems really to be happening. tet— seems really to be happening. tet ttere-s— seems really to be happening. and there's seems to be and there's no one seems to be trtweg— and there's no one seems to be driving-initiative. - and there's no one seems to be driving initiative. t:tit driving that initiative. but do you driving that initiative. but do yee-weet— driving that initiative. but do yee-weet e— driving that initiative. but do you-want a king- driving that initiative. but do you want a king doing you really want a king doing that? i'm not saying will, you really want a king doing thateven not saying will, you really want a king doing thateven nprinceng will, you really want a king doing thateven n prince of will, you really want a king doing thateven n prince of wales,, but even a prince of wales, i think anyone that anyone that can light into can actually put light into this, anyone that can make something happen, then it's worth else is worth it. because who else is going— worth it. because who else is geteg te— worth it. because who else is geteg te te— worth it. because who else is geteg te te-vee- . because who else is going to do you know, going to do this? you know, ttet-s— that's what our elected politicians— that's what our elected politicians ,— that's what our elected politicians , i- that's what our elected politicians , i suppose. politicians, i suppose. but
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ttet-s— politicians, i suppose. but that's-whole- politicians, i suppose. but- that's-whole-they're that's the whole point. they're not that's the whole point. they're eet teteg— that's the whole point. they're not doing that. _ that's the whole point. they're not doing that. and i think that wtet— not doing that. and i think that wtet-tes— not doing that. and i think that what-has through- not doing that. and i think that what has through his what the king has through his ttreegt— what the king has through his son, through william, has the set— son, through william, has the sertleettetty— son, through william, has the sort-publicity he- son, through william, has the sort publicity he has sort of publicity he has that ttet— sort of publicity he has that that stature— sort of publicity he has that that stature has— sort of publicity he has that that stature has that that eetteeee— that stature has that that audience-it- that stature has that that audience it work. that stature has that that- audience _it work. we audience to make it work. we teew— audience to make it work. we teew ttet. — audience to make it work. we know that. look— audience to make it work. we know that. look at what he said tetere— know that. look at what he said tetere es— know that. look at what he said tetere es tte— know that. look at what he said before as the prince of wales. tee— before as the prince of wales. tee teew— before as the prince of wales. tee teew te— before as the prince of wales. you know, he wasn't wrong so meey— you know, he wasn't wrong so meey yeers— you know, he wasn't wrong so meey yeers-wtee- you know, he wasn't wrong so many years when he made many years ago when he made ttese— many years ago when he made ttese-se— many years ago when he made these-so anyway,- many years ago when he made these so anyway, do these points. so anyway, i do tttet— these points. so anyway, i do tttet ttet. — these points. so anyway, i do think that. but— these points. so anyway, i do think that. e e think that. but isn't that isn't that that the of that the point that the role of king is different to prince of wales? i mean, wasn't genius king is different to prince of we'the? i mean, wasn't genius king is different to prince of we'the? i meaa wasn't genius king is different to prince of we'the? i meaa woman genius king is different to prince of we'the? i meaa woman thatjenius king is different to prince of we'the? i meaa woman that you1s of the queen a woman that you knew? on personal knew? well, on a personal level, you her in very high you held her in very high regard. her genius is that we did what thought did not know what she thought when least , when she was monarch. at least, you that's that's that's you know, that's that's that's an that's actually gone. an era that's actually gone. that's moved on. it's that's that's moved on. it's eesset. — that's that's moved on. it's passed. _we're. that's that's moved on. it's. passed.-we're now passed. you know, we're now meweg— passed. you know, we're now meweg tete— passed. you know, we're now meweg tete te— passed. you know, we're now moving into to a— passed. you know, we're now moving into to a new monarchy wttt— moving into to a new monarchy wttt e— moving into to a new monarchy wttt e tteg— moving into to a new monarchy with a king that— moving into to a new monarchy with a king that has been ttgttteg— with a king that has been fighting through all his entire life fighting through all his entire tte es— fighting through all his entire tte es tte— fighting through all his entire life as the prince of wales. ana,— life as the prince of wales. tet, yee— life as the prince of wales. and, you know,— life as the prince of wales. and, you know, with all these etetteeges— and, you know, with all these challenges that— and, you know, with all these challenges that he firmly tetewes— challenges that he firmly believes in,— challenges that he firmly believes in, he's not going to gwe— believes in, he's not going to gwe tt— believes in, he's not going to gtwe tt ee— believes in, he's not going to gtwe tt me as— believes in, he's not going to give it up- as you— believes in, he's not going to give it up. as you rightly point outt— give it up. as you rightly point que-gag— give it up. as you rightly point out,.said that,— give it up. as you rightly point out, said that, you know, i'd out, he said that, you know, i'd be out, he said that, you know, i'd te—stertl be an idiot to suddenly start seeetteg— be an idiot to suddenly start speaking-there's. speaking out, but there's a ttreettee— speaking out, but there's a direction .can- speaking out, but there's a direction can actually move direction he can actually move ttet— direction he can actually move ttet terwert— direction he can actually move that forward in— direction he can actually move that forward in a— direction he can actually move that forward in a way to still
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gtwe— that forward in a way to still gtweltte— that forward in a way to still give the momentum. so that we give it the momentum. so that we eeteetty— give it the momentum. so that we eeteetty tee-t— give it the momentum. so that we actually don't lose— give it the momentum. so that we actually don't lose sight of ttts— actually don't lose sight of this because— actually don't lose sight of this because i— actually don't lose sight of this because i firmly believe ttet,— this because i firmly believe ttet, yee— this because i firmly believe that, you know,— this because i firmly believe that, you know, william could be the that, you know, william could be tte-teem.— that, you know, william could be tte-tersee. tte— that, you know, william could be the person. the convenor the right person. the convenor tere— the right person. the convenor gag—n...- the right person. the convenori here,_ideas forward here, to move his ideas forward . _tte— here, to move his ideas forward . _ttetemtty- . so you know the family intimately well and you serve them so well, of course, as diana's bodyguard . and you were diana's bodyguard. and you were a bodyguard to to the to a bodyguard to the to the to their children , to william and their children, to william and harry can you tell me harry as well. can you tell me about the will be about how the family will be feeling eve of this feeling on the eve of this coronation? yes, it's coronation? because yes, it's a moment for the country, but it's a moment for this group of people charles, is people as well. charles, is a grandfather and father and grandfather and a father and a brother. well, i think the temtty— brother. well, i think the temtty t— brother. well, i think the family i mean,- well, i think the family i mean, you know him, his wte— family i mean, you know him, his wtte ,— family i mean, you know him, his wtte , tte— family i mean, you know him, his new wife , the queen, the queen new wife, the queen, the queen eeesert — new wife, the queen, the queen consort, william _ new wife, the queen, the queen consort, william and harry, and ttet— consort, william and harry, and ttee tts— consort, william and harry, and then his brothers— consort, william and harry, and then his brothers and sisters. i mean, you know,— then his brothers and sisters. i mean, you know, it hasn't eteeget— mean, you know, it hasn't eteeget. we— mean, you know, it hasn't changed. we know that that he weets— changed. we know that that he weets te— changed. we know that that he weets te trtm — changed. we know that that he wants to trim this— changed. we know that that he wants to trim this down, you teew,— wants to trim this down, you teew tet— wants to trim this down, you teew tet te — wants to trim this down, you know, but he wants he doesn't weet— know, but he wants he doesn't weet te— know, but he wants he doesn't weet te tese— know, but he wants he doesn't want to lose its— know, but he wants he doesn't want to lose its popularity , you want to lose its popularity, you teew. — want to lose its popularity, you teew. ttt— want to lose its popularity, you teew. ttt yee— want to lose its popularity, you know. did you notice- want to lose its popularity, you know. j t: i ' ’““i know. did you notice how anne pushed back on the idea of a slimmed down monarchy? i did see that quite what she— slimmed down monarchy? i did see that quite what she was— that quite what she was tttetteg— that quite what she was thinking. i'd— that quite what she was thinking. i'd like to think what she thinking. i'd like to think what ste-ty— thinking. i'd like to think what ste-tyttet. - thinking. i'd like to think what she _by that. she- thinking. i'd like to think what she by that. t: thinking. i'd like to think what- she-by that. she said she she means by that. she said she
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sett— she means by that. she said she said slimmed down said it was slimmed down monarchy. a monarchy. doesn't sound like a very idea to me. well very good idea to me. well i think slimmed down, think when you slimmed down, i think when you slimmed down, i think have few of aged think we have a few sort of aged royals in there. i mean, the greet— royals in there. i mean, the gear-tag,- royals in there. i mean, the great-kent, who. royals in there. i mean, the great-kent, who i. royals in there. i mean, the. great-kent, who i had great duke of kent, who i had the great duke of kent, who i had tte gteesere— great duke of kent, who i had the pleasure of— great duke of kent, who i had the pleasure of working with for meey— the pleasure of working with for eeey—teew- the pleasure of working with for eeey—teew ttsi many years and, you know, his stster— many years and, you know, his gag, tte— many years and, you know, his sister, the norfolks and so rertt— sister, the norfolks and so tertt-wtet- sister, the norfolks and so forth. _what the- sister, the norfolks and so forth. what the king is forth. i think what the king is teetteg— forth. i think what the king is teetteg-sert- forth. i think what the king is looking-sort of- forth. i think what the king is looking-sort of at. looking at is the sort of at the eet— looking at is the sort of at the eet et— looking at is the sort of at the eet et ttet— looking at is the sort of at the end of their time,— looking at is the sort of at the end of their time, perhaps, you teew,— end of their time, perhaps, you teew wett— end of their time, perhaps, you know, we'll move— end of their time, perhaps, you know, we'll move it forward and eteege—eet- know, we'll move it forward and change._and.trim| change. you know, and to trim ttet— change. you know, and to trim that numbers— change. you know, and to trim that numbers down. i'm know, change. you know, and to trim thatliumbers down. i'm know, change. you know, and to trim thati think rs down. i'm know, change. you know, and to trim thati think that'sln. i'm know, change. you know, and to trim thati think that'sln. i'm a know, change. you know, and to trim thati think that'sln. i'm a fair now, and i think that's that's a fair comment-yeah- and i think that's that's a fair comment. yeah sure. comment. yeah. yeah for sure. wett— comment. yeah. yeah for sure. wet. ttet.— comment. yeah. yeah for sure. wet. ttet-rm— comment. yeah. yeah for sure. well, look,-i'm delighted. well, look, ken, i'm delighted we've the no we've got you for the hour. no better help us with our better man to help us with our pre match coverage. that's right. coronation right. it's the coronation countdown. we've got ringside seats . and coming up, i'll be seats. and coming up, i'll be asking ken, wolf socialites asking ken, wolf and socialites and lady victoria and royal insider lady victoria hervey whether charles can unite the royal brothers. that's next. but first, here's me doing my favourite thing of all, which is meeting the great british public. take a look. what's your appraisal of queen camilla? i think she's doing very t“ £7 i think she's doing very well . and think she's doing very well. and i think she's doing very well. and t eet— think she's doing very well. and t eet t— think she's doing very well. and t eet t tttet— think she's doing very well. and i and i think they— think she's doing very well. and i and i think they make a very
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geet— i and i think they make a very geet eeete.— i and i think they make a very good couple. the— i and i think they make a very good couple. the younger generations— good couple. the younger generations will will see themselves— generations will will see themselves in- generations will will see themselves in william and kate as themselves in william and kate es wett— themselves in william and kate es wett. tet— themselves in william and kate es wett. tet t— themselves in william and kate as well. and i just— themselves in william and kate as well. and i just think yeah, i as well. and i just think yeah, t tttet— as well. and i just think yeah, i think there'll— as well. and i just think yeah, i think there'll be— as well. and i just think yeah, i think there'll be two different— i think there'll be two different but supporting roles .
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listening to gb news radio. welcome back to mark dolan . welcome back to mark dolan. tonight, it's the coronation countdown . we're live from countdown. we're live from buckingham palace and the emails are coming in thick and fast. a big reaction to my big opinion. i'm very excited about what king charles can achieve. it's my view that he will smash it. let's have a look. what do you have to say, pauline ? hi, mark. have to say, pauline? hi, mark. will the royal family forgo their overseas holidays in pursuit of net zero? how about this from richard? hi, mark. i'm not so sure the pomp and privilege on display tomorrow will help support for the
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monarchy grow domestically. however, internationally , it however, internationally, it will do wonders for tourism as an advert for great britain. so it's a 5050 for me, says richard. thank you for that, richard. thank you for that, richard . and last actually, richard. and last actually, let's do two more if we can. michael, hearty congratulations to you. mark. that was a brilliant monologue. inspiring. well, thank you , mike. michael well, thank you, mike. michael it was easy to write because it came from the heart. i don't think that charles is a perfect person who is, but he's got something about him. he's achieved a lot his life and achieved a lot in his life and i think that he's going to do a great job. but that's my hope anyway. last but not least, anyway. and last but not least, tom, that continues on tom, if that idiot continues on his trajectory , mary, his current trajectory, mary, there's that the there's no chance that the british public will take his ideas on board. so there you go. it's a thumbs down for charles from tom. this show is all about opinions. it's all about free speech. get opinions speech. let's get the opinions and now model and free speech now of model socialite , broadcaster and socialite, broadcaster and political commentator lady victoria hervey. victoria great to have you in the studio to be here, here at the palace and
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well, look, first of all, can charles unite the royal brothers? i think yes. i think if anybody brothers? i think yes. i think tt eeytety eee— brothers? i think yes. i think if anybody can, it's- 7 gttiiltfr i think if anybody can, it's going to be me— if anybody can, it's going to be ttm . — if anybody can, it's going to be ttm . t— if anybody can, it's going to be ttm . t meee— if anybody can, it's going to be him . i mean, this— if anybody can, it's going to be him . i mean, this this- if anybody can, it's going to be him . “ : him. i mean, this this weekend is obviously going to be very testing for the brothers being together for the first time since , you know, all of harry's since, you know, all of harry's revelations have come out. so probably very nervous. i'm sure . yeah, because you do wonder, don't you, that the king is going to be reflecting on on his many duties that lie ahead . he's many duties that lie ahead. he's got to and obviously, he wants to unite them. he wants, you teew. — to unite them. he wants, you teew. wett— to unite them. he wants, you know. well, he's— to unite them. he wants, you know. well, he's got- to unite them. he wants, you know. well, he's got a- l. “ he wants, you know. well, he's got a much streeger— know. well, he's got a much stronger family— know. well, he's got a much stronger family to have overflowing. t g stronger family to have overflowing. 3 g e stronger family to have overflowing. 3gm . git stronger family to have- overflowing. right. it's got the commonwealth got to commonwealth he's got to maintain popularity the maintain the popularity of the monarchy. that's maintain the popularity of the mo meant. that's maintain the popularity of the mo mean feat. that's maintain the popularity of the momean feat. she's that's maintain the popularity of the momean feat. she's a that's maintain the popularity of the momean feat. she's a hardiat's maintain the popularity of the momean feat. she's a hard act; no mean feat. she's a hard act to follow . but then a to follow. but then on a personal level, he's got to be worried about his own family, too. mean, at the end too. yeah. i mean, at the end of the day, they family. and, the day, they are family. and, you blood is the day, they are family. and, you-blood is thicker- the day, they are family. and,| you-blood is thicker than you know, blood is thicker than wte — you know, blood is thicker than wte tet— you know, blood is thicker than water. and i'm— you know, blood is thicker than water. and i'm sure- you know, blood is thicker than water. and i'm sure at- you know, blood is thicker than water. ' water. and i'm sure at some point they will make up. do you think so? i do . i think- think so? i do. i think eventually—
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think so? i do. i think eventually i- think so? i do. i think eventually i probably like well, by eventually i probably like well, ty tte— eventually i probably like well, ty tte ttme— eventually i probably like well, by the time when— eventually i probably like well, by the time when he moves back to by the time when he moves back te tegteet— by the time when he moves back te tegteet et— by the time when he moves back to england at some— by the time when he moves back to england at some point. right. wtet— to england at some point. right. wtet wttt— to england at some point. right. what will happen? �*ftmm : what will happen? what needs to happen for them to really bury the hatchet ? the boys from the hatchet? the boys from hinckley for meghan markle to be out of the picture. okay . right out of the picture. okay. right i don't see that ever really kind of happening all at the same time. i just i think it'll , uh. it'll just happen in its own time. i think he will start missing england, and the two brothers will unite again. so you don't think for as long as harry and meghan are together as husband and wife, that the family can reconcile ? yeah, i family can reconcile? yeah, i do. i sort of believe that. like, i'm sure they can sort of reconcile and i'm sure they will be making an effort. but to fully for him to be accept opted back into the fold i think it will be meghan and harry splitting. and of course , you've splitting. and of course, you've test— splitting. and of course, you've test reteeetet— splitting. and of course, you've just relocated .— splitting. and of course, you've just relocated . you've- e. “g and of course, you've just relocated . you've come just relocated. you've come teee,— just relocated. you've come teme, yeee— just relocated. you've come home, you've come back to the uk eet— home, you've come back to the uk eet yee— home, you've come back to the uk eet yee tttet— home, you've come back to the uk eet yee twet te— home, you've come back to the uk
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and you lived in los— home, you've come back to the uk and you lived in los angeles for severe— and you lived in los angeles for severet yeers— and you lived in los angeles for t y — and you lived in los angeles for several years . i— and you lived in los angeles for several years . i did- and you lived in los angeles for several years . t: t: 8 several years. i did 18 years, 18 years, a long time. you've still got the tan,— 18 years, a long time. you've still got the tan, but- 18 years, a long time. you've still got the tan, but is- still got the tan, but is etvteesty— still got the tan, but is etvteesty ,— still got the tan, but is obviously , you know, the scene obviously, you know, the scene eet— obviously, you know, the scene eet ttere— obviously, you know, the scene out there and _ obviously, you know, the scene out there and these relationships , these marriages, relationships, these marriages, ttey-re— relationships, these marriages, ttey-re very— relationships, these marriages, they're very cosmetic affairs semettees— they're very cosmetic affairs sometimes, aren't they? and it's a sometimes, aren't they? and it's e tttet— sometimes, aren't they? and it's e tttet eet— sometimes, aren't they? and it's a blink and you'll— sometimes, aren't they? and it's a blink and you'll miss it stteettee— a blink and you'll miss it situation for— a blink and you'll miss it situation for many of these eewer— situation for many of these eewer eeeetes— situation for many of these power couples .— situation for many of these power couples . so totally could power couples. so totally could ttet— power couples. so totally could ttet eeetee— power couples. so totally could ttet tegeee te— power couples. so totally could that happen to harry and meghan? veet— that happen to harry and meghan? yeah, hollywood— that happen to harry and meghan? yeah, hollywood marriage. it's a tettyweet— yeah, hollywood marriage. it's a hollywood marriage— yeah, hollywood marriage. it's a hollywood marriage .— yeah, hollywood marriage. . : g 3”; they hollywood marriage. erg. they don't last. well they don't- don't last. well they don't eseetty— don't last. well they don't usually last— don't last. well they don't usually last that long in that see— usually last that long in that sert et— usually last that long in that sort of environment because ttere-s— sort of environment because there's nothing— sort of environment because there's nothing real about it. tet— there's nothing real about it. tet ttet-s— there's nothing real about it. and that's one— there's nothing real about it. and that's one of— there's nothing real about it. and that's one of the reasons why— and that's one of the reasons wty t— and that's one of the reasons wty t mevet— and that's one of the reasons why i moved back to england teeeese— why i moved back to england teeeese t— why i moved back to england because i missed— why i moved back to england because i missed the culture. i mtsset— because i missed the culture. i mtsset seeteg— because i missed the culture. i missed seeing these union jacks everywtere— missed seeing these union jacks everywtere. t— missed seeing these union jacks everywhere. i missed the history eet— everywhere. i missed the history eet tte— everywhere. i missed the history and the buildings— everywhere. i missed the history and the buildings and everything that and the buildings and everything ttet we— and the buildings and everything ttet we teve— and the buildings and everything that we have in— and the buildings and everything that we have in this country. tet— that we have in this country. tet yee— that we have in this country. tet yee teew,— that we have in this country. and you know, the hollywood ttteg— and you know, the hollywood ting, tt— and you know, the hollywood ting, tt wes— and you know, the hollywood thing, it was fun— and you know, the hollywood thing, it was fun . and look, i thing, it was fun. and look, i eee-t— thing, it was fun. and look, i eee-t sey— thing, it was fun. and look, i can't say anything about him teteg— can't say anything about him teteg ttere— can't say anything about him being there because i did eteetty— being there because i did eteetty tte— being there because i did exactly the same thing. i eseeeet— exactly the same thing. i escaped the— exactly the same thing. i escaped the media. i went to tettyweet— escaped the media. i went to hollywood and— escaped the media. i went to hollywood and lived my life ttere— hollywood and lived my life ttere ewey— hollywood and lived my life there away from _ hollywood and lived my life there away from everything . but there away from everything. but ttere— there away from everything. but ttere wttt— there away from everything. but ttere wttt te—
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there away from everything. but there will be a— there away from everything. but there will be a time when he's going— there will be a time when he's geteg te— there will be a time when he's geteg te mss— there will be a time when he's going to miss all— there will be a time when he's going to miss all this and he's going— going to miss all this and he's geteg te— going to miss all this and he's geteg te mss— going to miss all this and he's going to miss his— going to miss all this and he's going to miss his friends and ttts— going to miss his friends and ttts ts— going to miss his friends and ttts ts wtet— going to miss his friends and this is what this— going to miss his friends and this is what this is what he is. ttts— this is what this is what he is. ttts ts— this is what this is what he is. ttts ts tts— this is what this is what he is. this is his dna.— this is what this is what he is. this is his dna. he can't hide trem— this is his dna. he can't hide trem wtet— this is his dna. he can't hide trem wtet te— this is his dna. he can't hide from what he actually is . “ from what he actually is. ken wtere.— from what he actually is. ken wterte. yee— from what he actually is. ken wharfe, you know,— from what he actually is. ken wharfe, you know, the boys very well. can their father bring them together, do something need to happen, something as seismic as as harry and meghan to split ? well, it's an interesting eetet.— ? well, it's an interesting eetet. t— ? well, it's an interesting point. i mean,— 7 well, it's an interesting point. i mean, what i think is retter— point. i mean, what i think is retter set,— point. i mean, what i think is rather sad, actually, here, this ttts— rather sad, actually, here, this ttts greet— rather sad, actually, here, this this great occasion of his tetter— this great occasion of his rag... yee— this great occasion of his father, you know, becoming the tteg— father, you know, becoming the tteg et— father, you know, becoming the tteg et ttts— father, you know, becoming the king of this country that harry etweys— king of this country that harry etweys wes— king of this country that harry always was going _ king of this country that harry always was going to come back. i sett— always was going to come back. i sett ttet— always was going to come back. i said that what— always was going to come back. i said that what i— always was going to come back. i said that what i think is very ttseggetetteg— said that what i think is very disappointing for the for him eet— disappointing for the for him eet t— disappointing for the for him eet t tttet— disappointing for the for him and i think for— disappointing for the for him and i think for the royal family geeeretty— and i think for the royal family geeeretty ts— and i think for the royal family generally is that— and i think for the royal family generally is that meghan didn't teet— generally is that meghan didn't come back either.— generally is that meghan didn't come back either. and i think ttet— come back either. and i think ttet ttet— come back either. and i think that that that— come back either. and i think that that that i— come back either. and i think that that that i think tells a tete— that that that i think tells a tete .— that that that i think tells a tete . t— that that that i think tells a tale . i don't— that that that i think tells a tale . i don't know why she she tale. i don't know why she she seggestet— tale. i don't know why she she seggestet ttet— tale. i don't know why she she suggested that she was staying ttere— suggested that she was staying ttere teetteg— suggested that she was staying there looking after her children wtetever— there looking after her children wtetever-te— there looking after her children whatever-in a— there looking after her children whatever in a sense, i'm whatever but in a sense, i'm teeteet— whatever but in a sense, i'm teetteet te— whatever but in a sense, i'm inclined to agree— whatever but in a sense, i'm inclined to agree with victoria inclined to agree with victoria te ttet,— inclined to agree with victoria te ttet, yee— inclined to agree with victoria in that, you know, at some point semettteg— in that, you know, at some point semettteg tes— in that, you know, at some point something has to— in that, you know, at some point something has to give here. this is something has to give here. this ts e— something has to give here. this ts e greet— something has to give here. this is a great occasion— something has to give here. this is a great occasion for them to tett— is a great occasion for them to git, ettteegt— is a great occasion for them to talk, although there won't a talk, although there won't be a greet— talk, although there won't be a
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greet-tree.— talk, although there won't be a great-time.-you. great deal of time. um, you teew— great deal of time. um, you teew terry,— great deal of time. um, you teew, terry, te— great deal of time. um, you know, harry, in my view, wants to know, harry, in my view, wants te eeree— know, harry, in my view, wants te teet. — know, harry, in my view, wants to come back. this— know, harry, in my view, wants to come back. this what to come back. this is what he ttts—t- to come back. this is what he ttts—t reeeel to come back. this is what hei this—i mean, you this is what he is. i mean, you teew— this is what he is. i mean, you know,_america- this is what he is. i mean, you know,_america like. know, living in america like ttet— know, living in america like ttet tset— know, living in america like that isn't-his- know, living in america like that isn't his style. you that isn't really his style. you teew,— that isn't really his style. you teew-seere- that isn't really his style. you know, spare didn't do that isn't really his style. you knovmuch spare didn't do that isn't really his style. you knovmuch good,5pare didn't do that isn't really his style. you knovmuch good,5pare dithink.) him much good, i don't think. ettteegt— him much good, i don't think. tttteegt te— him much good, i don't think. although he-a- him much good, i don't think. although he-a lot- him much good, i don't think. although he a lot of money although he made a lot of money out although he made a lot of money eet et— although he made a lot of money eet et rt.— although he made a lot of money eet et tt. tet— although he made a lot of money out of it. but it— although he made a lot of money out of it. but it didn't do any greet— out of it. but it didn't do any greet geet— out of it. but it didn't do any greet geet ter— out of it. but it didn't do any great good for the family etttee— great good for the familyi ettter. _teeg either. and i think if deep teee— either. and i think if deep tewe te— either. and i think if deep down, he probably acknowledges ttet.— down, he probably acknowledges ttet—e— down, he probably acknowledges ttet—e wey- down, he probably acknowledges that._a way that. that. but i think in a way that he that. but i think in a way that te-te— that. but i think in a way that te-te ttet— that. but i think in a way that te-te ttet e— that. but i think in a way that he-to find a way,- that. but i think in a way that he to find a way, you know, he has to find a way, you know, grtvetety— he has to find a way, you know, privately . reconcile - he has to find a way, you know, privately reconcile his privately to reconcile his differences— privately to reconcile his differences .— privately to reconcile his differences . but the of differences. but the future of his differences. but the future of tts wte,— differences. but the future of his wife, meghan, i'm not eertete— his wife, meghan, i'm not eertete. ety— his wife, meghan, i'm not certain. my own view is that i teve— certain. my own view is that i teve-t— certain. my own view is that i teve-t tttet- certain. my own view is that i have-i think that- certain. my own view is that i have i think that will have to say, i think that will eet— have to say, i think that will end-divorce— have to say, i think that will end divorce ultimately , when end in divorce ultimately, when eet— end in divorce ultimately, when eet-teew— end in divorce ultimately, when and-know that— end in divorce ultimately, when and-know that he- end in divorce ultimately, when and know that he will and you know that he will eretetty— and you know that he will probably come— and you know that he will probably come back to the united ttegtem— probably come back to the united ttegtem-wtet— probably come back to the united kingdom. what right. kingdom. was what is right. he wttt— kingdom. was what is right. he wttt-e— kingdom. was what is right. he wttt-e reteee- kingdom. was what is right. he will-a prince. you. will always be a prince. you teew— will always be a prince. you teew te— will always be a prince. you know, he was— will always be a prince. you know, he was born to be a prince in know, he was born to be a prince te-teet.— know, he was born to be a prince te-teet. tet— know, he was born to be a prince te-teet. tet t— know, he was born to be a prince in-land. but i think- know, he was born to be a prince in land. but i think that in this land. but i think that is in this land. but i think that ts—tte- in this land. but i think that is_the future,. is some time in the future, ettteegt— is some time in the future, ettteegt t— is some time in the future, although i wouldn't actually my evee—tr- although i wouldn't actually my evee—tr ewey. | own view is not too far away. ves— own view is not too far away. tes .— own view is not too far away. tes . t— own view is not too far away. tes . t — own view is not too far away. yes . i mean, obviously,- own view is not too far away. yes . i mean, obviously, it- own view is not too far away. yes. i mean, obviously, it is about the brothers, isn't it? do you think that william would would forgive harry because , i would forgive harry because, i mean, like i think eventually , mean, like i think eventually, yeah, i think they would . you yeah, i think they would. you know, look, all families- : you know, look, all families argue. all know, look, all families argue. ttt temttes— know, look, all families argue. all families .—
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know, look, all families argue. all families . you— know, look, all families argue. all families . you know, most we all families. you know, most we do all families. you know, most we te mete— all families. you know, most we te mete ee— all families. you know, most we do make up that— all families. you know, most we do make up that that is what temtty— do make up that that is what temtty tees— do make up that that is what family does is— do make up that that is what family does is and but it will tete— family does is and but it will tete e— family does is and but it will tete e tet— family does is and but it will take a lot and— family does is and but it will take a lot and it— family does is and but it will take a lot and it will take for terry— take a lot and it will take for terry te— take a lot and it will take for harry to actually— take a lot and it will take for harry to actually spend some preter— harry to actually spend some were geetty— harry to actually spend some proper quality time for his better— proper quality time for his brother and— proper quality time for his brother and really go over all tte— brother and really go over all tte tttegs— brother and really go over all the things that— brother and really go over all the things that upset him. and, you the things that upset him. and, yee teew— the things that upset him. and, yee teew ,— the things that upset him. and, you know , what— the things that upset him. and, you know , what are the things he you know, what are the things he did you know, what are the things he ttt wreeg— you know, what are the things he ttt wreeg eet— you know, what are the things he did wrong and how— you know, what are the things he did wrong and how did. you know, wtet— did wrong and how did. you know, wtet wes— did wrong and how did. you know, wtet tete— did wrong and how did. you know, what was kate upset about and all what was kate upset about and ett tte— what was kate upset about and ett tte rest— what was kate upset about and all the rest of— what was kate upset about and all the rest of the— what was kate upset about and all the rest of the family . and all the rest of the family. and tet— all the rest of the family. and tet tte— all the rest of the family. and but the problem— all the rest of the family. and but the problem is, you know, ttegtee— but the problem is, you know, ttegtee tes— but the problem is, you know, meghan has just— but the problem is, you know, meghan has just pulled him away trem— meghan has just pulled him away trem ett— meghan has just pulled him away trem ett et— meghan has just pulled him away from all of that. _ meghan has just pulled him away from all of that. and so that's why— from all of that. and so that's wty tt— from all of that. and so that's wty tt ts— from all of that. and so that's wty tt ts se— from all of that. and so that's why it is so hard— from all of that. and so that's why it is so hard to try and see ttet— why it is so hard to try and see ttet ttte— why it is so hard to try and see that life with— why it is so hard to try and see that life with her— why it is so hard to try and see that life with her still being in that life with her still being te tte— that life with her still being in the picture— that life with her still being in the picture because all she's teee ts— in the picture because all she's ever done is pull— in the picture because all she's ever done is pull him away from ttet.— ever done is pull him away from ttet. tts— ever done is pull him away from that. it's almost— ever done is pull him away from that. it's almost like she's test— that. it's almost like she's test teee— that. it's almost like she's test teee tt— that. it's almost like she's just done it as— that. it's almost like she's just done it as a- that. it's almost like she's just done it as a control thing. so just done it as a control thing. se tt— just done it as a control thing. se tt ste— just done it as a control thing. se tt ste gets— just done it as a control thing. so if she gets him _ just done it as a control thing. so if she gets him away from everyttteg— so if she gets him away from everything that— so if she gets him away from everything that he has loved and his everything that he has loved and tts-trteets— everything that he has loved and tts-trteets ,— everything that he has loved and his-friends , she— everything that he has loved and his friends , she can tell his old friends, she can tell em— his old friends, she can tell ttm wtet— his old friends, she can tell ttm wtet te— his old friends, she can tell him what to do— his old friends, she can tell him what to do more . his old friends, she can tell him what to do more. . his old friends, she can tell him what to do more. c ” him what to do more. it's fair to him what to do more. it's fair te sev— him what to do more. it's fair te sey ttet— him what to do more. it's fair to say that king charles has kept a dignified silence in regards to the sussexes, wouldn't you say? in all he's ever said publicly is to reiterate his love and affection for his son and he's he's he's
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essentially he's not sunk to their level. has he? no. i mean, of course their level. has he? no. i mean, et te— their level. has he? no. i mean, of course he hasn't— their level. has he? no. i mean, of course he hasn't sunk- ” “ti7 no. i mean, of course he hasn't sunk to that tevet. — of course he hasn't sunk to that tevet. t— of course he hasn't sunk to that tevet. t meee— of course he hasn't sunk to that level. i mean, you— of course he hasn't sunk to that level. i mean, you couldn't reetty— level. i mean, you couldn't reetty get— level. i mean, you couldn't really get much— level. i mean, you couldn't really get much lower than what ttey— really get much lower than what ttey ere— really get much lower than what ttey teteg— really get much lower than what they are doing now. they are doing right now. i meet-tte— they are doing right now. i mean,-the fact- they are doing right now. i mean, the fact that, mean, just the fact that, you teew— mean, just the fact that, you teew-eette- mean, just the fact that, you know, public, you know, know, their public, you know, eegegemeets— know, their public, you know, engagements and things that ttey-ve— engagements and things that they've suddenly spotted they've suddenly been spotted teteg— they've suddenly been spotted gang-gt,— they've suddenly been spottedj doing-la,-timing doing around in la, the timing of doing around in la, the timing et ttet,— doing around in la, the timing et ttet, yee— doing around in la, the timing of that, you know, is like, oh, tts— of that, you know, is like, oh, tt-s tte— of that, you know, is like, oh, it's the coronation— of that, you know, is like, oh, it's the coronation here. and setteety— it's the coronation here. and suddenly-this- suddenly they're at this basketball— suddenly they're at this basketball game. i don't know . basketball game. i don't know. it's basketball game. i don't know. tt-s test— basketball game. i don't know. tt-s test e— basketball game. i don't know. tt-s test e ttt— basketball game. i don't know. it's just a bit tacky. it's a etertes— it's just a bit tacky. it's a etertes ts— it's just a bit tacky. it's a charles is kept- it's just a bit tacky. it's a charles is kept it very , very charles is kept it very, very sert— charles is kept it very, very sert et— charles is kept it very, very sort of serene— charles is kept it very, very sort of serene and very positive reetty— sort of serene and very positive reetty ttet— sort of serene and very positive reetty ttet te— sort of serene and very positive really that he wants to still tts— really that he wants to still see his son. _ really that he wants to still see his son. t e see his son. does it surprise you that charles has been this patient because he is quite a passionate man, isn't he? and he's man of conviction, but he's a man of conviction, but he's a man of conviction, but he's really kept his counsel for years now. yeah. and he's really teet— years now. yeah. and he's really teet very— years now. yeah. and he's really teet very eetm — years now. yeah. and he's really kept very calm about— years now. yeah. and he's really kept very calm about it- / and he's really kept very calm about it as well . veet— kept very calm about it as well . veet. se— kept very calm about it as well . yeah. so he's— kept very calm about it as well . yeah. so he's believed. well, ttey-re— . yeah. so he's believed. well, ttey-re gretetty— . yeah. so he's believed. well, they're probably not privately rtgtt— they're probably not privately can, right. maybe not. probably teetteg— can, right. maybe not. probably freaking knowing— can, right. maybe not. probably freaking knowing knowing the man and freaking knowing knowing the man eet t— freaking knowing knowing the man eet t tee-t— freaking knowing knowing the man and i don't want— freaking knowing knowing the man and i don't want to,— freaking knowing knowing the man and i don't want to, you know, ttvetge— and i don't want to, you know, ttvetge tee— and i don't want to, you know, divulge too many— and i don't want to, you know, divulge too many secrets but grtvetety— divulge too many secrets but grtvetety t-m— divulge too many secrets but privately i'm sure this will be
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eetteg— privately i'm sure this will be eetteg et— privately i'm sure this will be eating at him,— privately i'm sure this will be eating at him, won't it. / eating at him, won't it. yeah, tet— eating at him, won't it. yeah, tet ttstem— eating at him, won't it. yeah, but listen, i've— eating at him, won't it. yeah, but listen, i've worked with i had the pleasure of being alongside him on a few, many occasions, mean, he occasions, actually. i mean, he is , you occasions, actually. i mean, he ts , yee teew,— occasions, actually. i mean, he ts , yee teew te-s— occasions, actually. i mean, he is , you know, he's a- occasions, actually. i mean, he is , you know, he's a he- i mean, he is , you know, he's a he was a is, you know, he's a he was a geet— is, you know, he's a he was a geet-,— is, you know, he's a he was a good_, yee— is, you know, he's a he was a good_, yee teew,- is, you know, he's a he was a good , you know, going good father, you know, going ttreegt—yee- good father, you know, going. through _you know, through a period of, you know, extree— through a period of, you know, extreme unhappiness, you know , extreme unhappiness, you know, teteg— extreme unhappiness, you know, terteg tte— extreme unhappiness, you know, terteg tte sts.— extreme unhappiness, you know, during the 80s. but he played, vou— during the 80s. but he played, yee teew— during the 80s. but he played, yee teew e— during the 80s. but he played, you know, a quite— during the 80s. but he played, you know, a quite a shrewd role ttere— you know, a quite a shrewd role there because _ you know, a quite a shrewd role there because we've had this ttseesstee— there because we've had this discussion before— there because we've had this discussion before that that he teew— discussion before that that he teew ttet— discussion before that that he knew that that— discussion before that that he knew that that his children at ttet— knew that that his children at ttet ttme— knew that that his children at that time enjoyed the company and that time enjoyed the company eet teteg— that time enjoyed the company and being-with— that time enjoyed the company and being with their mother and being with with their mother and being with with their mother and never objected to and never, never objected to ttet— and never, never objected to that because _ and never, never objected to that because he— and never, never objected to that because he wanted his ettttree— that because he wanted his children to— that because he wanted his children to be— that because he wanted his children to be happy. but he tevet— children to be happy. but he loved william.— children to be happy. but he loved william. he harry loved william. he loved harry very— loved william. he loved harry very-tet— loved william. he loved harry very-tet yee- loved william. he loved harry very and you know, loved william. he loved harry- very-and you know, even very much so. and you know, even rtgtt— very much so. and you know, even rtgtt 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what's happened now is he's lost tttrt et— what's happened now is he's lost one third of that— what's happened now is he's lost one third of that because terry-s— one third of that because harry's currently america. harry's currently in america. tet— harry's currently in america. tet tts— harry's currently in america. but it's interesting what vteterte— but it's interesting what victoria said— but it's interesting what victoria said about america. you teew,— victoria said about america. you teew ttts— victoria said about america. you know, this this— victoria said about america. you know, this this lifestyle for ttm — know, this this lifestyle for ttm weett— know, this this lifestyle for him would be— know, this this lifestyle for him would be so unsuitable and ms— him would be so unsuitable and ms etvteesty— him would be so unsuitable and he's obviously finding it teeretttty— he's obviously finding it incredibly difficult . but he's incredibly difficult. but he's get— incredibly difficult. but he's get te— incredibly difficult. but he's now got to find— incredibly difficult. but he's now got to find a way with with
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wttt — now got to find a way with with wttt wttt— now got to find a way with with wttt wttt tts— now got to find a way with with with with his wife,— now got to find a way with with with with his wife, meghan, teette— with with his wife, meghan, teette tew— with with his wife, meghan, decide how are— with with his wife, meghan, decide how are they going to play— decide how are they going to ttey ttet— decide how are they going to play their future _ decide how are they going to play their future either in tmertee— play their future either in tmertee er— play their future either in america or here in the united ttegtem—teewi america or here in the unitedl kingdom,_know , america or here in the united- kingdom,_know , this kingdom, because, you know, this sert—te— kingdom, because, you know, this sert—te eet- kingdom, because, you know, this sert—te eet tre- sort of transiting to and fro wtet— sort of transiting to and fro wtee ttere— sort of transiting to and fro when there happens to be a street— when there happens to be a special occasion— when there happens to be a special occasion , i don't think special occasion, i don't think is special occasion, i don't think ts geteg— special occasion, i don't think ts geteg te— special occasion, i don't think is going to work— special occasion, i don't think is going to work that often . no, is going to work that often. no, to is going to work that often. no, te te— is going to work that often. no, te te tetest— is going to work that often. no, to be honest, there has to be a teetstee— to be honest, there has to be a teetstee eet— to be honest, there has to be a decision and there's always going— decision and there's always geteg te— decision and there's always geteg te te— decision and there's always geteg te te e— decision and there's always going to be a limited amount of tree— going to be a limited amount of tee—geteg- going to be a limited amount of ttme—getegltel time that they're going to be gtvee— time that they're going to be gtvee-ertvete - time that they're going to be given-private-to. time that they're going to be given private to fly given these private jets to fly tet — given these private jets to fly on. and briefly,— given these private jets to fly on. and briefly, i- given these private jets to fly on. 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' “t: on. and briefly, i mean, he's your argument is, know, your argument is, you know, california very well. your argument that good, honest argument is that a good, honest lad like harry, he he can't be happy there. no, because she's not happy there. no, because she's eet ttte— happy there. no, because she's eet ttte ,— happy there. no, because she's eet ttte , yee— happy there. no, because she's not like , you know,— happy there. no, because she's not like , you know, it's- g“ti”ti no, because she's not like , you know, it's just not like, you know, it's just eet— not like, you know, it's just eet geteg— not like, you know, it's just eet geteg te— not like, you know, it's just not going to work because he test— not going to work because he test wtet— not going to work because he test wtet te— not going to work because he just what he is.— not going to work because he just what he is. i— not going to work because he just what he is. i mean, it's eteeget— just what he is. i mean, it's eteeget se— just what he is. i mean, it's changed so much as well. i mean, te-s— changed so much as well. i mean, te-s errtvet— changed so much as well. i mean, te-s errtvet et— changed so much as well. i mean, he's arrived at like— changed so much as well. i mean, he's arrived at like the worst ttmteg— he's arrived at like the worst ttmteg ttet— he's arrived at like the worst timing that you— he's arrived at like the worst timing that you could possibly he's arrived at like the worst tinthere, at you could possibly he's arrived at like the worst tinthere, you>u could possibly he's arrived at like the worst tinthere, you know, .d possibly he's arrived at like the worst tinthere, you know, if possibly he's arrived at like the worst tinthere, you know, if pcwasly he's arrived at like the worst tinthere, you know, if pcwas 15 be there, you know, if it was 15 yeers— be there, you know, if it was 15 yeersee- — be there, you know, if it was 15 yeersee- , tts- be there, you know, if it was 15 years no , it's soulless years ago. but no, it's soulless at years ago. but no, it's soulless et tte— years ago. but no, it's soulless et tte eet— years ago. but no, it's soulless et tte eet et— years ago. but no, it's soulless at the end of the— years ago. but no, it's soulless at the end of the day. and it is very— at the end of the day. and it is very meet— at the end of the day. and it is very meet ee— at the end of the day. and it is very much on the— at the end of the day. and it is very much on the down a downhill steee. — very much on the down a downhill steee. tte— very much on the down a downhill steee. tte teet— very much on the down a downhill slope. the fact that— very much on the down a downhill slope. the fact that he's- very much on the down a downhill slope. ti slope. the fact that he's here, i think is a good idea, but it's going be difficult for going to be very difficult for him because none of us know going to be very difficult for him betwhat none of us know going to be very difficult for him betwhat the e of us know going to be very difficult for him betwhat the e of of know exactly what the sort of media coverage going be of him
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coverage is going to be of him and actually what position or where he's. buti and actually what position or where he's. but i think it where what he's. but i think it is where what he's. but i think it ts-ttet— where what he's. but i think it is-that meghan- where what he's. but i think it is-that meghan did- is good that meghan did not come. ithink— is good that meghan did not come..think it's- is good that meghan did not come. l g is good that meghan did not come. g: come. i think it's good. but i think the why said think the reason why i said i think the reason why i said i think she have come think she should have come because she is still a senior member of royal as as member of the royal family as as the their little the duchess and their little children should be. and think children should be. and i think they have there. they should have been there. but i think the kids but it's true. i think the kids eeteetty— but it's true. i think the kids actually—resent actually will probably resent the actually will probably resent tte-ttet,— actually will probably resent tte-ttet, yee— actually will probably resent the that, you know, when the fact that, you know, when ttey-re— the fact that, you know, wheni ttey-re—eretetty they're teenagers are probably reseet— they're teenagers are probably reseet tte— they're teenagers are probably resent the .that- they're teenagers are probably resent the that were they're teenagers are probably resetherez that were they're teenagers are probably resethere for that were they're teenagers are probably resethere for theirit were not there for their grand tetter-s— father's coronation. indeed. teeeese— father's coronation. indeed. because they've tip axed father's coronation. indeed. bec of ;e they've tip axed father's coronation. indeed. becof history. ie tip axed father's coronation. indeed. becof history. and tip axed father's coronation. indeed. becof history. and thinkixed out of history. and i think that's very, sad. well that's very, very sad. well look, to say that look, i'm delighted to say that ken victoria are going to ken and victoria are going to stick around because next up, i'll be asking ken wharfe and top historian david oldroyd bolt with republican voices getting louder, could this be the last coronation? and will charles be a significant figure of history or the forgotten king? that's next. she'll be on my sitting room watching _ next. she'll be on my sitting room watching it— “tix. she'll be on my sitting room watching it on the television— room watching it on the television . _ room watching it on the television . ' “t: room watching it on the television . '“t: : : room watching it on the television . ' “t: t: t: i room watching it on the- television . and i did camp out television. and i did camp out for harry and meghan's wedding in windsor. it was very cold and ttet— in windsor. it was very cold and ttee t— in windsor. it was very cold and ttee t weet— in windsor. it was very cold and ttee t weet te— in windsor. it was very cold and then i went to windsor- “ �*ft�* : it was very cold and then i went to windsor for the
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teees— then i went to windsor for the queen's funeral. _ then i went to windsor for the queen's funeral. and i still tevee-t— queen's funeral. and i still haven't watched it because i was ttere. — haven't watched it because i was ttere. se— haven't watched it because i was ttere. se tt— haven't watched it because i was there. so it was— haven't watched it because i was there. so it was lovely- haven't watched it because i was there. e there. so it was lovely to see our final procession into the castle. but i want to watch this one on the television and the weather's not meant to be great. well , i weather's not meant to be great. well, i think, you weather's not meant to be great. well , i think, you know, you can well, i think, you know, you can geeere— well, i think, you know, you can greeere ter— well, i think, you know, you can greeere ter e— well, i think, you know, you can prepare for a lifetime or you wetere— prepare for a lifetime or you can prepare for— prepare for a lifetime or you can prepare for day. �*7 can prepare for a day. but if yeere— can prepare for a day. but if yee-reee-r-ye- can prepare for a day. but if you're you're ready. so you're ready, you're ready. so he mean, you've he seems ready. i mean, you've tesetret— he seems ready. i mean, you've tesetret me— he seems ready. i mean, you've inspired me there. _ he seems ready. i mean, you've inspired me there. that- ”tile�*cgt i mean, you've inspired me there. that was the pep— inspired me there. that was the get tett— inspired me there. that was the pep talk.needed. _ inspired me there. that was the pep talk needed. pep talk i needed. that's what i'm for. we came all the i'm here for. we came all the way across ocean for this .
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gb news is the people's channel. tetere-s— gb news is the people's channel. britain's watching— gb news is the people's channel. britain's watching .— gb news is the people's channel. britain's watching . welcome back britain's watching. welcome back to britain's watching. welcome back te etert— britain's watching. welcome back te ttert eetee— britain's watching. welcome back to mark dolan tonight live from teettegtem — to mark dolan tonight live from buckingham palace. ttitttt to mark dolan tonight live from buckingham palace. ttitet to mark dolan tonight live from buckingham palace. triret : buckingham palace. now, i asked the great british public earlier , is the £250 million cost of the coronation an justified? we have the results. they are in and 36.7% say it's not justified . but a healthy majority, six
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arnie 3.3 say it absolute is worth the money. and i couldn't agree. now with me is ken wharfe, who is the former bodyguard to diana, princess of wales, and harry and william when they were little. and i'm delighted now to welcome the highly respected historian and political commentator, david oldroyd bolts. david, lovely to have you here. thank you. mark, what will you be doing tomorrow for the big day? well, i'm glad to for the big day? well, i'm glad te sey— for the big day? well, i'm glad te sey ttt— for the big day? well, i'm glad te sey ttt te— for the big day? well, i'm glad to say i'll be having— g r:rig7 well, i'm glad to say i'll be having lunch with trteets— to say i'll be having lunch with trteets eet— to say i'll be having lunch with friends not far— to say i'll be having lunch with friends not far from here and ttet—tte- then going to watch the fly-paste— then going to watch the- fly—past,_willing, fly—past, which, god willing, wttt—eest- fly—past, which, god willing, wttt—eest twei will happen at half past two greets— will happen at half past two greets-eeey- will happen at half past two pleads, away and pleads, clouds go away and eer-eyteg— pleads, clouds go away and eeteyteg-rest- pleads, clouds go away and enjoying-rest of- pleads, clouds go away and enjoying rest of the day. enjoying the rest of the day. i tttet— enjoying the rest of the day. i tttetltte— enjoying the rest of the day. i think-the way— enjoying the rest of the day. i think the way that we all think in the way that we all steett. — think in the way that we all should. .should- think in the way that we all should. should be a day of should. it should be a day of teestteg— should. it should be a day of teestteg eet— should. it should be a day of feasting and celebration. it steett— feasting and celebration. it| should _ jubilee, feasting and celebration. it- should _jubilee, ian should be a day of jubilee, ian tet— should be a day of jubilee, ian tet-eeytety- should be a day of jubilee, ian and anybody who's not and frankly, anybody who's not teteg— and frankly, anybody who's not tetegteetet— and frankly, anybody who's not doinglooked.a_ and frankly, anybody who's not doinglookedla bit- and frankly, anybody who's not doinglooked a bit and head looked at a bit and a stgettteeet— head looked at a bit and a significant day— head looked at a bit and a significant day in our history. vee— significant day in our history. tee tee-t— significant day in our history. you don't want— significant day in our history. you don't want to _ significant day in our history. you don't want to miss- significant day in our history. you don't want to miss this one because coronations don't because these coronations don't come very often. no, it's come around very often. no, it's been since the come around very often. no, it's been-since the last- been 70 years since the last .ttere— been 70 years since the last one. .there-fewl been 70 years since the last- one. .there-few more one. and there were a few more in one. and there were a few more te-tetere— one. and there were a few more in-before that- one. and there were a few more in before that because in the years before that because meeerets-te— in the years before that because monarchs to younger in the years before that because mon be hs to younger in the years before that because mon be hslittle to younger in the years before that because mon be hslittle to together. er and be a little closer together. tet— and be a little closer together. tet-ere— and be a little closer together. but-are generally- and be a little closer together. but are generally once in but these are generally once in a but these are generally once in e geeerettee— but these are generally once in a generation, once— but these are generally once in a generation, once in every two
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geeerettee—eeti generation events. and god wtttteg— generation events. and godi willing,_same. willing, it will be the same. now:— willing, it will be the same. wew tt— willing, it will be the same. wew tt tts— willing, it will be the same. now, if his majesty has a tteseee— now, if his majesty has a lifespan-father- now, if his majesty has a lifespan father and lifespan of his father and meter— lifespan of his father and mother grandmother, mother and grandmother, then we can mother and grandmother, then we eee-exteet— mother and grandmother, then we eee-exteet ttm — mother and grandmother, then we can -expect him i live - mother and grandmother, then we can expect him live and can fully expect him to live and retge— can fully expect him to live and retge-geerter— can fully expect him to live and retge-geerter et— reign for a quarter of a eeetery.— reign for a quarter of a century. which means that i will be century. which means that i will te—et- be practically a pensioner at ttet—my- be practically a pensioner at. ttet—my a... that point. and you, my dear, wttt— that point. and you, my dear, wttt te— that point. and you, my dear, wttt te te— that point. and you, my dear, wttt te te e— that point. and you, my dear, will be in a bath— that point. and you, my dear, will be in a bath chair. but yeee— will be in a bath chair. but yeet, tt— will be in a bath chair. but yeet, tt t-m— will be in a bath chair. but yeah, if i'm lucky, being fed by a yeah, if i'm lucky, being fed by e—teve- a nurse. let's, let's have a look at the significance of coronation over the years. i mean, have always been this mean, have they always been this big a deal? was it as big a deal in the 50s when the was a in the 50s when the queen was a was coronated into the crown? i think the queen was was coronated into the crown? i. think-the queen was crowned think when the queen was crowned in think when the queen was crowned tenets— think when the queen was crowned te-tteslwes— think when the queen was crowned te-soslwes e— think when the queen was crowned in-50s,.was a huge- think when the queen was crowned in 50s, was a huge deal in the 50s, it was a huge deal teeeese— in the 50s, it was a huge deal because-coming- in the 50s, it was a huge deal because coming out of in the 50s, it was a huge deal- because-coming out of a because we were coming out of a tetet— because we were coming out of a tetet wer— because we were coming out of a tetet et— because we were coming out of a total war of.years. _ because we were coming out of a total war of years. were total war of six years. we were stit— total war of six years. we were stttt test— total war of six years. we were stttt test te— total war of six years. we were still just in the— total war of six years. we were still just in the grips of retteeteg— still just in the grips of rationing. we- still just in the grips of rationing. we had rationing for eeetter— rationing. we had rationing for eeetter yeer— rationing. we had rationing for another year after the queen was erevveet — another year after the queen was erevveet _tet — another year after the queen was crowned _and .it- another year after the queen was crowned _and i it was - another year after the queen was crowned and it was an crowned in 53. and so it was an excuse for the _ crowned in 53. and so it was an excuse for the nation to have a bit excuse for the nation to have a tttle— excuse for the nation to have a tttle partit— excuse for the nation to have a tttle partvrlbit_ excuse for the nation to have a bit-a party,lbit of- excuse for the nation to have a bit a party, bit of colour bit of a party, a bit of colour in bit of a party, a bit of colour te-tte— bit of a party, a bit of colour te-tte wes— bit of a party, a bit of colour in-life was drab- bit of a party, a bit of colour in life was drab in those in life, life was drab in those teys— in life, life was drab in those teys e— in life, life was drab in those teys, e greet— in life, life was drab in those days, a great deal of the eeeetry— days, a great deal of the eeeetry wes— days, a great deal of the country was still bombed out etter— country was still bombed out ette—wett- country was still bombed out after—world war.| country was still bombed outl after—world war. a after the second world war. a greet— after the second world war. a greet meey— after the second world war. a great many people were living in extremety— great many people were living in extremety-eet- extremely straight and circumstances we did not enjoy the technological— circumstances we did not enjoy. the technological—we the technological advantages we had the technological advantages we tet-tttet— the technological advantages we tet-tttet te- the technological advantages we had-think in those- had now. so i think in those teys— had now. so i think in those teys-tet— had now. so i think in those teys-tet tte- had now. so i think in those. days-had the _just
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had now. so i think in those- days-had the _just as days they had the debate just as we are now. is it— days they had the debate just as we are now. is it justified in a tree— we are now. is it justified in a ttme et— we are now. is it justified in a ttme et gette— we are now. is it justified in a time of quite straitened circumstances many circumstances for a great many eeette— circumstances for a great many teette te— circumstances for a great many teette te-ttts— circumstances for a great many people to .this sort- people to have this sort of celebration,— people to have this sort of celebration,-of. people to have this sort of. celebration,-of grand celebration, this sort of grand eetteeet— celebration, this sort of grand eetteeet-e- celebration, this sort of grand national-? and- celebration, this sort of grand. national-? and .think national spectacle? and i think largely—saw largely they came to the same must-on— largely they came to the same conclusion that— largely they came to the same conclusion that the country has non-your nou- conclusion that the country has now,-your poll and. now, based on your poll and omen.— now, based on your poll and others-seen— now, based on your poll and others. seen that, yes, it others. i've seen that, yes, it is. others. i've seen that, yes, it n. we— others. i've seen that, yes, it n. we-gen— others. i've seen that, yes, it n. ne-gen n— others. i've seen that, yes, it is. we-get a new- others. i've seen that, yes, it is. we get a new sovereign is. we don't get a new sovereign ven— is. we don't get a new sovereign very—unen-onl very often in our lives. most of us-current trends,- very often in our lives. most of us current trends, see us may, in current trends, see 1 or us may, in current trends, see 1 on 2. — us may, in current trends, see 1 on 2. so— us may, in current trends, see 1 on 2. so nnn— us may, in current trends, see 1 or 2. so this is— us may, in current trends, see 1 or 2. so this is not— us may, in current trends, see 1 or 2. so this is not something nnnn— or 2. so this is not something nnnn nnpnens— or 2. so this is not something that happens every ten years. tnn— that happens every ten years. tnn n— that happens every ten years. tnn is non— that happens every ten years. this is not something we this is not something that we can-say,— this is not something that we can-say, neu— this is not something that we can-say, neu ,- this is not something that we can say, well , you know, can just say, well, you know, ne-u— can just say, well, you know, ne-u gen— can just say, well, you know, we'll get another— can just say, well, you know, we'll get another one soon, so ten-s— we'll get another one soon, so tens-n— we'll get another one soon, so ten-s-n-non- we'll get another one soon, so let's-it-for now.- we'll get another one soon, so let's it for now. this let's slim it back for now. this is let's slim it back for now. this n—nnnn— let's slim it back for now. this n—nnnn .— let's slim it back for now. this is_that | think- let's slim it back for now. this is_that | think is. let's slim it back for now. this is_that i think is al is something that i think is a manner—inne- - is something that i think is a matter—pride. we| matter of national pride. we ongnn— matter of national pride. we ought celebrating the matter of national pride. we oughtwe celebrating the matter of national pride. we oughtwe are.elebrating the matter of national pride. we oughtwe are. .ebrating the matter of national pride. we oughtwe are. sing the matter of national pride. we oughtwe are. the matter of national pride. we oughtwe are. ese matter of national pride. we oughtwe are. scale we are. let's hope, as you say, with his good genetics, that can can be the that charles can can be on the throne of decades. throne for a couple of decades. but has he got enough time to become a figure of historical importance? long do you need importance? how long do you need as king make a difference? as king to make a difference? well, should that his well, i should say that his majesty— well, i should say that his majesty already is a figure of nnnoncni— majesty already is a figure of historical importance. served majesty already is a figure of histlongestiportance. served majesty already is a figure of histlongest apprenticeshiperved the longest apprenticeship of any-on— the longest apprenticeship of any-on-on- the longest apprenticeship of any-on-on on- the longest apprenticeship ofi any-of-or of any any prince of wales or of any broadening— any prince of wales or of any broadening o— any prince of wales or of any broadening a crown prince in history— broadening a crown prince in history ,— broadening a crown prince in nnnon , during— broadening a crown prince in history , during which time he's history, during which time he's noo— history, during which time he's no on— history, during which time he's had an enormous— history, during which time he's had an enormous advantageous onoo— had an enormous advantageous effect on— had an enormous advantageous effect on one— had an enormous advantageous effect on the country . look at effect on the country. look at one— effect on the country. look at one work— effect on the country. look at the work that— effect on the country. look at the work that the _ effect on the country. look at the work that the prince's trust
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ono— the work that the prince's trust and-nio— the work that the prince's trust and-his-charities. and all of his other charities nooo— and all of his other charities novo oono— and all of his other charities have done-these- and all of his other charities have done these years in have done over these years in one— have done over these years in one-on— have done over these years in one-on good- have done over these years in- the-of good-been the amount of good that has been ooniovoo— the amount of good that has been achieved already.— the amount of good that has been achieved already. so i should say— achieved already. so i should soy—ono- achieved already. so i shouldi soy—one king-o say that even were the king's nonn— say that even were the king's reign—no- say that even were the king's reign—he shouldi reign to be short, he should already— reign to be short, he should onoooy—o- reign to be short, he should. already—a place reign to be short, he should- already_a place in already be assured of a place in our-nooks.— already be assured of a place in our-books. but- already be assured of a place in our books. but given our history books. but given onoo— our history books. but given no nos— our history books. but given that he's also— our history books. but given that he's also been far ahead that he's also been so far ahead of that he's also been so far ahead on-onno— that he's also been so far ahead on-onno on— that he's also been so far ahead of-curve on the— that he's also been so far ahead of curve on the discussions, of the curve on the discussions, no-nonnonoo—ni we're now having, for instance, oonno— we're now having, for instance, around—nonsmo- we're now having, for instance, around housing we around the sort of housing we nonn— around the sort of housing we wont-country- around the sort of housing we want-country and- around the sort of housing we want country and the want in the country and the quantities— want in the country and the quantities-want- want in the country and the quantities want of the impact quantities we want of the impact we_environment,. quantities we want of the impact we environment, the we have on our environment, the nonuni— we have on our environment, the natural—oonl natural environment of the sort of ino— natural environment of the sort of one no— natural environment of the sort of life we want— natural environment of the sort of life we want culturally and spinnouy. — of life we want culturally and spiritually. _cleari spiritually. i think it's clear onoo— spiritually. i think it's clear non—no- spiritually. i think it's clear. that—he continues that the king, if he continues donn— that the king, if he continues down one— that the king, if he continues down the path— that the king, if he continues down the path he's set for ninoon— down the path he's set for himself , will himself as prince of wales, will be himself as prince of wales, will too-oun— himself as prince of wales, will be our more notable be one of our more notable monarchs. course, if monarchs. and of course, if oninoo— monarchs. and of course, if things—south. monarchs. and of course, if things—south forj monarchs. and of course, if- things_south for the things were to go south for the royal— things were to go south for the royal-and— things were to go south for the royal-and i— things were to go south for the royal-and i hope- things were to go south for the royal and i hope they royal family and i hope they oon-n— royal family and i hope they oon-nlono— royal family and i hope they don't the monarchy, not don't for the monarchy, it's not inconceivable— don't for the monarchy, it's not inconceivable that— don't for the monarchy, it's not inconceivable that this could be the-coronation— inconceivable that this could be the-coronation i— inconceivable that this could be the coronation i think it the last coronation i think it nonn— the last coronation i think it rather inconceivable because rather is inconceivable because the rather is inconceivable because one—ono— rather is inconceivable because one—one younger- the support for the younger generation— the support for the younger generation-is- the support for the younger generation is more generation of royals is more consistent,— generation of royals is more consistent, not— generation of royals is more consistent, not necessarily monon— consistent, not necessarily nignon nun— consistent, not necessarily higher, but more consistent even onon— higher, but more consistent even non-non— higher, but more consistent even onon-non ono— higher, but more consistent even than-for the king.- higher, but more consistent even than for the king. and than it is for the king. and onoon — than it is for the king. and queen- no— than it is for the king. and queen. we know that the prince ono— queen. we know that the prince and princess— queen. we know that the prince and princess of— queen. we know that the prince and princess of wales are very, very— and princess of wales are very, very popular— and princess of wales are very, very popular people across the nongo— very popular people across the range-non,— very popular people across the range-non, on- very popular people across the range now, of course, range of ages. now, of course, younger— range of ages. now, of course, younger poooro— range of ages. now, of course, younger people are so younger people are not so keen on-institution_ younger people are not so keen on-institution of— younger people are not so keen on institution of monarchy, on the institution of monarchy, noon,— on the institution of monarchy, largelvr_isi largely, i think, because it is oonornrng— largely, i think, because it is something grow something which most people grow into something which most people grow no fee“...—
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something which most people grow into feeling great— something which most people grow into feeling great affection for the into feeling great affection for no rongor— into feeling great affection for the longer-the- into feeling great affection for the longer the more the longer they live, the more they— the longer they live, the more rnoy-rno— the longer they live, the more rnoy-rno good— the longer they live, the more they the good does they see the good it does constitutionally, the more they they see the good it does conzthe tionally, the more they they see the good it does conzthe benefits the more they they see the good it does conzthe benefits of! more they they see the good it does conzthe benefits of itnore they they see the good it does conzthe benefits of it compared see the benefits of it compared nrrn — see the benefits of it compared nrrn ornor— see the benefits of it compared with other systems of government and ornor— with other systems of government and ornor oono— with other systems of government and other sorts of— with other systems of government and other sorts of heads of none.— and other sorts of heads of nooo-ono- and other sorts of heads of state. the fonder people state. i think the fonder people neernoe— state. i think the fonder people become institution of become of the institution of nonoreny— become of the institution of nonoreny .— become of the institution of nonoreny . so— become of the institution of monarchy . so let's not monarchy. so as let's not forger— monarchy. so as let's not rorger, rne— monarchy. so as let's not forget, the prince of wales is now a-entering- forget, the prince of wales is now a entering early middle now a man entering early middle age- — now a man entering early middle age- so— now a man entering early middle age- so nee— now a man entering early middle age- so ne-e nor— now a man entering early middle age. so he's not a— now a man entering early middle age. so he's not a young man onrnorey ne— age. so he's not a young man anymore. he has— age. so he's not a young man anymore. he has plenty of time as anymore. he has plenty of time oe—nroore- anymore. he has plenty of time oe—nroore agel anymore. he has plenty of time as_middle age toj as he grows into middle age to onio— as he grows into middle age to none noon— as he grows into middle age to build upon that— as he grows into middle age to build upon that support. as he grows into middle age to build upon that support . and as build upon that support. and as the build upon that support. and as rne rnnee— build upon that support. and as the prince and— build upon that support. and as the prince and princess of wales enioren— the prince and princess of walesi enioren—roke children themselves come to take greorer— children themselves come to take greorer roree— children themselves come to take greater roles in— children themselves come to take greater roles in national life, as greater roles in national life, one-nir— greater roles in national life, oe-rnu oo— greater roles in national life, as-will do under- greater roles in national life, as will do under the king's as they will do under the king's prone— as they will do under the king's piano for— as they will do under the king's piano for o— as they will do under the king's plans for a slimmed down nonorony. — plans for a slimmed downi monarchy. _we plans for a slimmed down- monarchy. _we will monarchy. i think what we will eeeno-rron— monarchy. i think what we will see nation growing with see is the nation growing with nor— see is the nation growing with nor fanny— see is the nation growing with nor fanny .— see is the nation growing with that family . don't forget, that family. don't forget, we noven-r—rorl haven't really had that for a long— haven't really had that for a long-because- haven't really had that for a long because the prince of long time because the prince of vretee— long time because the prince of one one— long time because the prince of wales and the— long time because the prince of wales and the princess of wales, rney-re— wales and the princess of wales, they're generation _ wales and the princess of wales, they're generation now well, they're generation is now well, aslsay— they're generation is now well, aslsay ,— they're generation is now well, asisay ,lmiddle_ they're generation is now well, asisay ,lmiddle-so. they're generation is now well, as say , middle so we as i say, in middle age. so we noven-r— as i say, in middle age. so we noven-r noo— as i say, in middle age. so we haven't had a— as i say, in middle age. so we haven't had a young generation of haven't had a young generation or—rnrongn- haven't had a young generation or—rnrongnlnoni of royals come through for now 30, of royals come through for now so, no— of royals come through for now so, no yeore — of royals come through for now 30, 40 years. and— of royals come through for now 30, 40 years. and i think rnererore,— 30, 40 years. and i think therefore, there's possibly a bit-disjunct— therefore, there's possibly a bit disjunct between the bit of a disjunct between the young— bit of a disjunct between the young or— bit of a disjunct between the young or our— bit of a disjunct between the young of our own there young of our own country. there are young of our own country. there ore-generorrone— young of our own country. therei are-generations-with are two generations out now with prince — are two generations out now with prince—roun- are two generations out now with prince _ louis and i prince george, prince louis and princess— prince george, prince louis and princess charlotte.— prince george, prince louis and princess charlotte. will princess charlotte. you will see generorrone— princess charlotte. you will see generations together. princess charlotte. you will see genetherefore, together. princess charlotte. you will see genetherefore, i together. princess charlotte. you will see genetherefore, i think together. princess charlotte. you will see genetherefore, i think togisee r. and therefore, i think we'll see a revivification,_
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and therefore, i think we'll see arevivification, rejuvenation a revivification, a rejuvenation in a revivification, a rejuvenation rn-orreorron— a revivification, a rejuvenation in _affection for- a revivification, a rejuvenation in affection for monarchy in of the affection for monarchy . anu— in of the affection for monarchy . ann ro— in of the affection for monarchy . and to what— in of the affection for monarchy . and to what extent- in of the affection for monarchy . and to what extent in- in of the affection for monarchy . and to what extent in terms of history have have coronations and the arrival of a new king or queen being a reboot for the country. does history tell us that when there's a new incumbent in the palace behind us that it gives the country a fillip, a refresh in some way? i think it rather depends on the quarry— i think it rather depends on the quarry or— i think it rather depends on the quarry or one— i think it rather depends on the quality of the monarch who groeeeoe. — quality of the monarch who proceeds. now— quality of the monarch who proceeds. now we've just seen me— proceeds. now we've just seen the-extraordinary- proceeds. now we've just seen the extraordinary in the most extraordinary reign in our nation's history and a eoveergn— our nation's history and a sovereign who— our nation's history and a sovereign who was held in enormous esteem and respect eoorery— enormous esteem and respect across society and— enormous esteem and respect across society and so it is norurou— across society and so it is natural, therefore, that rnere-u— natural, therefore, that there'll be _ natural, therefore, that there'll be a- natural, therefore, that there'll be a slight wobble, i rnrnn— there'll be a slight wobble, i run unn— there'll be a slight wobble, i think, with his— there'll be a slight wobble, i think, with his majesty coming to think, with his majesty coming ro rne— think, with his majesty coming ro rne ro— think, with his majesty coming ro rne ro rne— think, with his majesty coming to the to the throne . c c to the to the throne. it's a bit une— to the to the throne. it's a bit like following sir alex ferguson at manchester united. it's an extremely difficult— at manchester united. it's an extremely difficult act- stir?" " air: it's an extremely difficult act to rouon. — extremely difficult act to - follow. _ previous follow. there have been previous rneoneeer— follow. there have been previous instances,.course,_ follow. there have been previous instances, course, the instances, of course, when the rnonoren— instances, of course, when thej monarch who preceded was so rented— reviled and so useless that oeruouy— reviled and so useless that actually-was- reviled and so useless that actually-was a- reviled and so useless that actually was a great actually it was it was a great noon— actually it was it was a great nooer for— actually it was it was a great boost for the— actually it was it was a great boost for the nation. saw boost for the nation. we saw rnre— boost for the nation. we saw rnre-rne— boost for the nation. we saw this-the prince- boost for the nation. we saw this the prince regent this with the prince regent unoee— this with the prince regent whose-william i whose brother, william the noun— whose brother, william the rounn-rne- whose brother, william the fourth, the throne. whose brother, william the- fourth,-the throne. and fourth, came to the throne. and rnen— fourth, came to the throne. and rnen een— fourth, came to the throne. and then even more— fourth, came to the throne. and then even more with queen vrorono— then even more with queen vrorono-oe- then even more with queen victoria - as an - then even more with queen victoria-as an 18. then even more with queen. victoria-as an 18 year victoria acceding as an 18 year old victoria acceding as an 18 year org—rue- victoria acceding as an 18 year org—rnre gren- old girl. we saw this great eeneeol— old girl. we saw this great sense-a new— old girl. we saw this great sense a new start for the sense of a new start for the nonoreny— sense of a new start for the nonorenylor— sense of a new start for the monarchy at least a new monarchy or at least a new engine—
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chapter in the long history of our—rnrnk- chapter in the long history of our—think what'si our monarchy. i think what's noppenrng— our monarchy. i think what's happening-“0t- our monarchy. i think what's happening not so much happening here is not so much of a_or a rebooting. a transformation or a rebooting of a transformation or a rebooting or-nonoreny.— a transformation or a rebooting of-monarchy. it's- a transformation or a rebooting of monarchy. it'sjust a transformation or a rebooting of monarchy. it's just a of the monarchy. it's just a eon— of the monarchy. it's just a sort-different— of the monarchy. it's just a sort-different-of. of the monarchy. it's just a sort different of it. sort of different view of it. rnre— sort of different view of it. rnre re— sort of different view of it. this is let's— sort of different view of it. this is let's forget man sort of different view of it. th74 s let's forget man sort of different view of it. th74 coming forget man sort of different view of it. th74 coming intorget man sort of different view of it. th74 coming into a et man sort of different view of it. th74 coming into a job man sort of different view of it. th74 coming into a job at an of 74 coming into a job at a one— of 74 coming into a job at a one unen— of 74 coming into a job at a time when most— of 74 coming into a job at a time when most people have long since— time when most people have long rerrreo— time when most people have long since retired or— time when most people have long since retired or at— time when most people have long since retired or at least are considering— since retired or at least are considering deep scaling back since retired or at least are co theirring deep scaling back since retired or at least are co their activitiesep scaling back since retired or at least are co their activities .r scaling back since retired or at least are co their activities . so aling back since retired or at least are co their activities . so ofig back of their activities. so of course it's— of their activities. so of course it's a— of their activities. so of course it's a different feeling . nur— course it's a different feeling . our r— course it's a different feeling . but i think— course it's a different feeling . but i think we've already seen in ne— . but i think we've already seen in rne ergnr— . but i think we've already seen in the eight months of his noieery-e— in the eight months of his majesty's reign— in the eight months of his. majesty's reign-very, majesty's reign that he's very, very—ion- majesty's reign that he's very, very—jobr rnor- majesty's reign that he's very, very—jobr rnor nei very good at the job, that he noe— very good at the job, that he nee-rouen— very good at the job, that he has-touch with- very good at the job, that he has touch with the has a sure touch with the gunne— has a sure touch with the purge, rne— has a sure touch with the public, the affection which public, the affection in which his public, the affection in which hie—ono- his majesty is held and genreurony— his majesty is held and particularly the his majesty is held and- particularly _the queen, particularly that of the queen, is growing.— particularly that of the queen, is growing.ithink_ particularly that of the queen, is growing. think week is growing. i think by the week every—gone,- every poll that's done, they seem _building- every poll that's done, they seem building more and seem to be building more and norelrnor. — seem to be building more and more-that. so— seem to be building more and more .that. so you- seem to be building more andi more .that. so you-he more of that. so you think he has of a truly has the makings of a truly historic i mean, you has the makings of a truly histohe's i mean, you has the makings of a truly histo he's alreadymean, you has the makings of a truly histo he's already he'si, you has the makings of a truly histo he's already he's already said he's already he's already going to go down in history as a monarch in his own right. i think very possible monarch in his own right. ii think-very possible that think it is very possible that he think it is very possible that ne wru— think it is very possible that ne nru ne— think it is very possible that he will be seen— think it is very possible that he will be seen as a great king neoouee— he will be seen as a great king because so much— he will be seen as a great king because so much he because so much of what he has gone— because so much of what he has gone-rne— because so much of what he has done the groundwork of done to lay the groundwork of run— done to lay the groundwork of run-tong,— done to lay the groundwork of nag-tong, tong- that in his long, long apprenticeship already that in his long, long apprentifruit. already that in his long, long apprentifruit. �*frr�*asready that in his long, long apprentifruit. " sly bearing fruit. was his apprenticeship too long? no, i don't he could apprenticeship too long? no, i don't-he could possibly. don't think he could possibly nove— don't think he could possibly noeon-— don't think he could possibly have an apprenticeship don't think he could possibly havsuch an apprenticeship don't think he could possibly havsuch onerousprenticeship don't think he could possibly havsuch onerousprenticeitip for such an onerous task. is it a for such an onerous task. is it o-you— for such an onerous task. is it o-you or— for such an onerous task. is it o-you or r— for such an onerous task. is it o-you or r nouro- for such an onerous task. is it a you or i would want? a job that you or i would want? i a job that you or i would want? r neon— a job that you or i would want? r noe— a job that you or i would want? i mean, has has— a job that you or i would want? i mean, has has there been issue unn— i mean, has has there been issue
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urn-on— i mean, has has there been issue urrn-on-oro— i mean, has has there been issue with-an-old kings- i mean, has has there been issue with-an-old kings or. with with an old, old kings or gueene— with with an old, old kings or queens—uen,- queens in history? well, of course. .those- queens in history? well, of course. those were the course. but those were in the ooye—ono- course. but those were in the days—and queensj course. but those were in the- days_and queens were days when kings and queens were a days when kings and queens were o muon— days when kings and queens were a much more control the a much more in control of the day— a much more in control of the ooy—or- a much more in control of the ooy—or one- a much more in control of the. day—of the nation day to day running of the nation neoouee— day to day running of the nation neeouee oney— day to day running of the nation because they had— day to day running of the nation because they had serious power to because they had serious power ro rnrenene— because they had serious power to intervene in— because they had serious power to intervene in government or indeed— indeed to make decisions. and, b, indeed to make decisions. and, n-rney— indeed to make decisions. and, n-rney were— indeed to make decisions. and, b, they were surrounded by b, when they were surrounded by a b, when they were surrounded by o groun— b, when they were surrounded by a group.courtiers_ b, when they were surrounded by a group courtiers who were a group of courtiers who were orroro— a group of courtiers who were orrorolrnerr— a group of courtiers who were afraid their positions , if afraid of their positions, if ever-roto— afraid of their positions, if ever told truths. now we ever they told truths. now we know— ever they told truths. now we knon- ner— ever they told truths. now we know her majesty grew know that as her majesty grew order— know that as her majesty grew oroer ,— know that as her majesty grew oroer , ene— know that as her majesty grew older , she-given- know that as her majesty grew. older , she-given-from older, she was given advice from her older, she was given advice from ner countere— older, she was given advice from ner eounrere .— older, she was given advice from her courtiers . she— older, she was given advice from her courtiers . she sought the her courtiers. she sought the oovree— her courtiers. she sought the advicelher_ her courtiers. she sought the advice her family about when advice of her family about when it advice of her family about when rr-ror— advice of her family about when rr-ror ner— advice of her family about when it-for her-withdrawl it was time for her to withdraw from— it was time for her to withdraw from going— it was time for her to withdraw from going eo— it was time for her to withdraw from doing so many public duties for ono— from doing so many public duties for one nie— from doing so many public duties for and his current— from doing so many public duties for and his current to for and his current majesty to eren— for and his current majesty to een-r— for and his current majesty to eren-r nove- for and his current majesty to eren-r nove no- for and his current majesty to step i have no doubt step forwards. i have no doubt onoo— step forwards. i have no doubt nor-nir— step forwards. i have no doubt that-will continue- step forwards. i have no doubt that will continue be that that will continue to be one— that that will continue to be the - because _ that that will continue to be the-because-is- that that will continue to be the because is now that that will continue to be- the-because-is now an the case because this is now an exrrenery— the case because this is now an extremely-honed- extremely well honed institution. - extremely well honed . institution. _runs institution. one that runs enoornry— institution. one that runs smoothly-that- institution. one that runs smoothly that has great smoothly and that has a great oeor— smoothly and that has a great deal collaboration between deal of collaboration between the—wel deal of collaboration between. one—ore the generations. david we were so happy to have you coming down to palace. a brilliant to the palace. what a brilliant overview you've just given us. enjoy tomorrow . i'd enjoy your lunch tomorrow. i'd love to be involved, frankly, but didn't get an invite. join but i didn't get an invite. join us why? i didn't us for a drink. why? i didn't get look we'll get the memo. look we'll definitely do i'm always definitely do that. i'm always up a drink. listen, up for a quick drink. listen, my thanks bolt . thanks to david oldroyd bolt. coming i'll be ken, coming up, i'll be asking ken, wolf and royal insider and socialite lady victoria hervey,
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where has been where the prince andrew has been thrown bus and also , thrown under the bus and also, does anne princess deserve does anne princess anne deserve an upgrade? don't forget, in the next hour , lindsay kinsey next hour, lindsay kinsey schofield i should say linda jubilee and paul burrell all with me here at the palace. and it might take at ten. i'll be making the for case queen camilla. but first, let's take a look at the moment when i ran into king himself the into the king himself on the mall earlier today. into the king himself on the mall earlier today . that's the mall earlier today. that's the king cake. that was it. that was the king cake. that was it. that was one nng. — king cake. that was it. that was the king. you're— king cake. that was it. that was the king. you're welcome.- g i that was it. that was the king. /rir ”c: i a the king. you're welcome. it's almost like there's a coronation. got to say , i've coronation. got to say, i've just seen the king. i feel quite emotional. well, i've never made eye contact with charles before, but he's just gone past in a car and an incredible roar from the crowd as he actually hit the other end of the mall. but we are witnessing history .
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welcome back. and listen, the emails are coming in thick and fast. it's the coronation countdown. we've got ringside seats for the big day tomorrow. and you've been getting your messages across. mark gb news .uk. hey, mark, a good big opinion monologue, much of which i agree with. but i will not give my allegiance to a king who doesn't give his allegiance to me . a bible believing christian me. a bible believing christian pauune me. a bible believing christian pauline has said , oh, she's pauline has said, oh, she's wants to call out the hypocrite arnie of the royals when it comes to net zero. i'll get to more of your emails shortly, but with me for the next few minutes we have former royal bodyguard bodyguard to princess diana and william and harry. ken wharfe and model socialite and broadcaster and royal insider, no less. lady victor gao maria
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hervey , victoria . we've spoken hervey, victoria. we've spoken about prince andrew in the past and i think you feel that he's been poorly treated in relation to those allegations that he had relations with a minor. yeah and you know, you've sprung to his defence. what sort of role do you see him playing under the reign of . you see him playing under the reign of. king you see him playing under the reign of . king charles? um, reign of. king charles? um, i think , you know, i- reign of. king charles? um, i think , you know, i think- ”c: g i g , um, i think , you know, i think it's think, you know, i think it's noro— think, you know, i think it's noro ro— think, you know, i think it's hard to know— think, you know, i think it's hard to know at— think, you know, i think it's hard to know at this point. is onero— hard to know at this point. is there o— hard to know at this point. is there o uoy— hard to know at this point. is there a way back— hard to know at this point. is there a way back for- hard to know at this point. f i 7 well. there a way back for him? well. charles well, there a way back for him? well. charles well , charles,- f i 7 well. charles well , charles, forgive charles well, charles, forgive nin— charles well, charles, forgive nrn ono— charles well, charles, forgive run one ny— charles well, charles, forgive nrn ono rry ro— charles well, charles, forgive him and try to rehabilitate him. overu— him and try to rehabilitate him. wen, you— him and try to rehabilitate him. rreu, you know— him and try to rehabilitate him. well, you know ,— him and try to rehabilitate him. well, you know , his brother well, you know, his brother knows— well, you know, his brother knoue ou— well, you know, his brother knows all the— well, you know, his brother knows all the evidence. ri knows all the evidence. he's he nos— knows all the evidence. he's he has everything. he can see very clearly that he's not guilty . clearly that he's not guilty. and i just think what has happened to him has been completely unfair. you happened to him has been completely unfair . you know, completely unfair. you know, there will be things coming out, you know, in the next few weeks or months and hopefully when everything actually is out and those girls, the evidence is seen, you know, by the police,
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by the fbi, that , in fact, they by the fbi, that, in fact, they did all lie . they did commit did all lie. they did commit perjury did all lie. they did commit perjury . they did all lie. they did commit perjury. they did did all lie. they did commit perjury . they did give did all lie. they did commit perjury. they did give in fake evidence to the fbi . i hopefully evidence to the fbi. i hopefully when all that is done , um, i've when all that is done, um, i've actually also interviewed two of the big witnesses , the one who the big witnesses, the one who actually took the real photo at kinnerton street, which was not prince andrew. i will be releasing that interview in the near future as well. and so you feel he's been stitched up. he's been done up like a right royor— he's been done up like a right royor upper.— he's been done up like a right royor nigger. ne— he's been done up like a right royal kipper. he has for the purposes— royal kipper. he has for the purpoeee or— royal kipper. he has for the purposes of balance. i've got to say— purposes of balance. i've got to soy onoo— purposes of balance. i've got to soy rnor rnoee — purposes of balance. i've got to say that those making the allegations— say that those making the allegations here to allegations are not here to defend—andl allegations are not here to- defend_and they allegations are not here to defenc argue and they allegations are not here to defenc argue they and they allegations are not here to defenc argue they would! they allegations are not here to defenc argue they would argue would argue they would argue onoo— would argue they would argue rnor rney— would argue they would argue rnor rney rney— would argue they would argue that they they have been vrorrne. — that they they have beeni victims. _they that they they have been- victims. _they can't do victims. they know they can't do anything about me because they know truth. know i'm only talking the truth. and issue. and and that is the issue. and i know they call me a witch. so do you do think so? the way you you do you think so? the way you see is you do you think so? the way you eeelre onoo— you do you think so? the way you seelis that-think— you do you think so? the way you seelis that-think that- see it is that you think that andrew— see it is that you think that andrew noe— see it is that you think that andrew has suffered a miscarriage- andrew has suffered a miscarriage of justice. “43?" miscarriage of justice. yeah, i runn— miscarriage of justice. yeah, i onrn-ueen— miscarriage of justice. yeah, i think been completely miscarriage of justice. yeah, i think accused en completely miscarriage of justice. yeah, i think accused. andipletely miscarriage of justice. “43?" and you rig miscarriage of justice. “43?" ”: and you think falsely accused. and you think onoo— falsely accused. and you think no mere— falsely accused. and you think no onere re— falsely accused. and you think that there is hope— falsely accused. and you think that there is hope that- ”: and you think that there is hope that he will be vindicated— that there is hope that he will be vindicated and cleared erreerrvery—
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be vindicated and cleared effectively of— be vindicated and cleared effectively of these allegations . ano— effectively of these allegations . and if— effectively of these allegations . and if no— effectively of these allegations . and if he is— effectively of these allegations . and if he is cleared,- effectively of these allegations . and if he is cleared, cleared of all of this, will his brother then support him? that is that is the and that's that in a way, ken, is a political question, isn't it? because even if andrew isn't it? because even if andrew is oneoueo— isn't it? because even if andrew is oneoueo or— isn't it? because even if andrew is absolved of these— is absolved of these allegations,- is absolved of these allegations, he's damaged goods errgnrry— allegations, he's damaged goods eugnrry, ten-r— allegations, he's damaged goods slightly, isn't he?— allegations, he's damaged goods slightly, isn't he? well, i rnrnk— slightly, isn't he? well, i run one— slightly, isn't he? well, i think the first- slightly, isn't he? well, i think the first question you oekeo— think the first question you asked victoria— think the first question you asked victoria was what's his rote— asked victoria was what's his rore neree — asked victoria was what's his rore neree r— asked victoria was what's his role here? i mean,- asked victoria was what's his role here? i a: i; role here? i mean, will the king forgive him at the moment? no, i don't think this is the case because it is a huge embarrassment to the royal family and this sort of detracting from what really is happening at the moment. i mean, for part , know little if for my part, i know little if nothing about what victoria is talking about this new evidence. but i think for me, when you look at it , but i think for me, when you look at it, you but i think for me, when you look at it , you know, why then look at it, you know, why then did he and with help from his mother and his brother , you mother and his brother, you know, offer up nearly £12 million to an out—of—court settlement , an million to an out—of—court settlement, an out—of—court settlement, an out—of—court settlement for what, though? so in america it's very much like a done thing that you have civil cases and but try and convince
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people over here that i mean uk they don't know about that as much but in the us it's a big thing they super civil cases that go is only after money. she did not want it to go to rnor— she did not want it to go to some trial and— she did not want it to go to some trial and not get money. no— some trial and not get money. no guer— some trial and not get money. no iuer onour— some trial and not get money. it's just about money and that's the it's just about money and that's one rnrng— it's just about money and that's one onrng onoo— it's just about money and that's the thing that david boies , her the thing that david boies, her rowers,— the thing that david boies, her ronyere, rney— the thing that david boies, her lawyers, they knew a member of the lawyers, they knew a member of one noyor— lawyers, they knew a member of the royal family. _ lawyers, they knew a member of the royal family. do you realise onoo— the royal family. do you realise no n— the royal family. do you realise nor to ne— the royal family. do you realise that if he had— the royal family. do you realise that if he had gone to court rnere— that if he had gone to court rnere were— that if he had gone to court there were a— that if he had gone to court there were a whole of the royal roniy— there were a whole of the royal roniy-nowe— there were a whole of the royal roniy-nowe ro- there were a whole of the royal family - have to be - there were a whole of the royal family have to be deposed there were a whole of the royal fincluding have to be deposed there were a whole of the royal fincluding theiave to be deposed there were a whole of the royal fincluding the queen?re deposed there were a whole of the royal fincluding the queen? that)osed there were a whole of the royal fincluding the queen? that is;ed , including the queen? that is going— , including the queen? that is never going happen. �*fo�*ricc never going to happen. well, i oon-r— never going to happen. well, i noun—nur- never going to happen. well, i don't_ but but- never going to happen. well, i don't_ but but i- never going to happen. well, i don't but but i think don't know that, but but i think they have been they would all have been deposed. could you imagine the oueene— deposed. could you imagine the oueene-nor— deposed. could you imagine the queen? - not prince - :: could you imagine the queen? not prince william queen? i'm not prince william being—nor- queen? i'm not prince williami being—nor-nor being deposed. i'm not i'm not so eenorn— being deposed. i'm not i'm not so certain-that.- being deposed. i'm not i'm not so certain-that. - being deposed. i'm not i'm not so certain that. so certain about that. but i onrn— so certain about that. but i think ro— so certain about that. but i think it would have happened. but i think, victoria, that the fact that association with but i think, victoria, that the factwas: association with but i think, victoria, that the factwas bad association with but i think, victoria, that the factwas bad enough:ion with but i think, victoria, that the factwas bad enough ini with but i think, victoria, that the factwas bad enough in itsith but i think, victoria, that the factwas bad enough in its own her was bad enough in its own right and the evidence that came out, you talk about the photograph, i mean, you're suggesting that that was a doctored photograph . i mean, doctored photograph. i mean, okay. there would okay. forensically there would be evidence to say that it wasn't . but or was, as wasn't. but but but or was, as the case may be, it's a photo of
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a photo. a photo. but but i think that the person that actually took it that will stand up court against this woman, up in court against this woman, that's going be interesting. up in court against this woman, timean,)ing be interesting. up in court against this woman, timean, ifig be interesting. up in court against this woman, timean, if that be interesting. up in court against this woman, timean, if that ls! interesting. up in court against this woman, timean, if that is the eresting. up in court against this woman, timean, if that is the case,�*ig. i mean, if that is the case, then others will look then i and many others will look forward seeing this turn forward to seeing this turn around policeman. around the policeman. and if that the case, it is that is the case, if it is actually found to be true, are you suggesting then that you being officers you suggesting then that you beinthe officers you suggesting then that you beinthe sas officers you suggesting then that you beinthe sas have officers you suggesting then that you beinthe sas have offictthis and the sas guys have met this actual witness that that took the real pictures? they believe nine— the real pictures? they believe nine wren— the real pictures? they believe him? well well, _ the real pictures? they believe him? well well, okay.- the real pictures? they believe him? well well, okay. i- ”rial rt.”ri~;fr7’ they believe him? well well, okay. i mean, rook,— him? well well, okay. i mean, rook, rney— him? well well, okay. i mean, look, they actually you know, rne— look, they actually you know, one-prero— look, they actually you know, one-orerry our- look, they actually you know, the pretty out there in the story is pretty out there in the story is pretty out there in one negrnnrng— the story is pretty out there in the beginning officers the beginning that the officers at the beginning that the officers or—rnor- the beginning that the officers at_that first- at first met him, that first one— at first met him, that first one-rwe— at first met him, that first time - like, you - at first met him, that first time like, you know, it was time were like, you know, it was yuan,— time were like, you know, it was yeon, rney— time were like, you know, it was yeon, rney oto.— time were like, you know, it was yeah, they did. they came out of were— yeah, they did. they came out of rnere irke— yeah, they did. they came out of there like, this— yeah, they did. they came out of there like, this is— yeah, they did. they came out of there like, this is the guy now, vrrgrnro— there like, this is the guy now, virginia giuffre_ there like, this is the guy now, virginia giuffre would obviously nornrorn— virginia giuffre would obviously maintain that— virginia giuffre would obviously maintain that she— virginia giuffre would obviously maintain that she she knew she woe-r— maintain that she she knew she woe-r none— maintain that she she knew she woe-r none very- maintain that she she knew she was i hope very soon. was a victim. i hope very soon. wou— was a victim. i hope very soon. new. you— was a victim. i hope very soon. wen, you know.— was a victim. i hope very soon. well, you know, she's- was a victim. i hope very soon. well, you know, she's not- was a victim. i hope very soon. well, you know, she's not here to defend herself, obviously. i mean, this show is hiding out in australia conveniently isn't that convenient? well, look, you know, entitled know, obviously you're entitled to she's to your view. i mean, she's not here herself and here to defend herself and she would that she's been a would maintain that she's been a victim didn't victim and that she didn't do it for money. look, you're for the money. but look, you're entitled view. that's entitled to your view. that's what is all about. and what this show is all about. and thank you for making way
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thank you for making it way through the money. well, look, you're not you're you know, you're not purring— you're you know, you're not pulling about pulling your punches. what about it, pulling your punches. what about in -neoooue— pulling your punches. what about it, because i think it, anne? because i think princess anne is the most underrated member of the royal family i'm a huge fan of hers. she seems to be the closest in temperament, temperament to her own mother. right. and do you think she merits some kind of upgrade in the court of king charles? yeah, i mean, oennrrery.— charles? yeah, i mean, definitely. at- 7 yeah, i mean, definitely. at least in profile. rwe— definitely. at least in profile. we orwoye— definitely. at least in profile. i've always looked at her and orwoye— i've always looked at her and always thought,— i've always looked at her and always thought, you know , she always thought, you know, she noe— always thought, you know, she has something— always thought, you know, she has something very sort of like guer— has something very sort of like we rne— has something very sort of like iuer rne woy— has something very sort of like just the way she— has something very sort of like just the way she acts and eweryrnrng. — just the way she acts and everything. i've always, you know,— everything. i've always, you know, rn— everything. i've always, you know, in r— everything. i've always, you know, i'm i love— everything. i've always, you know, i'm i love horses as well. snee— know, i'm i love horses as well. sne-e very— know, i'm i love horses as well. she's very respected horsewoman. i she's very respected horsewoman. r oeruouy— she's very respected horsewoman. r oeruouy ow— she's very respected horsewoman. i actually saw mike— she's very respected horsewoman. i actually saw mike tindall last nigh,— i actually saw mike tindall last night, oeruouy— i actually saw mike tindall last night, actually did you? so they gernng— night, actually did you? so they were getting ready for the big ony— were getting ready for the big ooy. ano— were getting ready for the big ooy. one or— were getting ready for the big day. and of course, that's he's rne— day. and of course, that's he's one one-e— day. and of course, that's he's one ene-e rne— day. and of course, that's he's the she's the mother in law, ten-r— the she's the mother in law, ren-r ener— the she's the mother in law, isn't she? um,— the she's the mother in law, isn't she? um, but i, i, yeah, rwe— isn't she? um, but i, i, yeah, he neon,— isn't she? um, but i, i, yeah, i've heard, you— isn't she? um, but i, i, yeah, i've heard, you know, good , good i've heard, you know, good, good rnrnge— i've heard, you know, good, good rnrnge onour— i've heard, you know, good, good things about her.— i've heard, you know, good, good things about her. like, i think oeruouy— things about her. like, i think actuallyidon't_ things about her. like, i think actuallyidon't-in. things about her. like, i think actually don't in this actually i don't believe in this summer— actually i don't believe in this slimmed down— actually i don't believe in this slimmed down monarchy. i think rnere-e— slimmed down monarchy. i think rnere-e-nuon— slimmed down monarchy. i think there's-much for— slimmed down monarchy. i think there's much for them they there's too much for them they nove— there's too much for them they nowe ro— there's too much for them they nowe ro-vou— there's too much for them they have to .you know,- there's too much for them they have to you know, the have to do. you know, the wrruon-e— have to do. you know, the william's doing five william's doing like five engagements— william's doing like five engagements like they
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william's doing like five- engagements-like they need engagements a day like they need or— engagements a day like they need or onen— engagements a day like they need more of them. yes,— engagements a day like they need more of them. yes, indeed . 'r: more of them. yes, indeed. and i r— more of them. yes, indeed. and i r just— more of them. yes, indeed. and i r tour on— more of them. yes, indeed. and i mean, i just as-say,- more of them. yes, indeed. and i mean, i just as-say, i- more of them. yes, indeed. and i mean, i just as say, i think mean, i just as you say, i think i think actually the children should be participating and maybe doing too maybe anne is almost doing too much. mean, her workload much. i mean, her workload is colossal, ken ? well, colossal, isn't it, ken? well, always. i mean, t a a 7 well, always. i mean, victoria talks onour— always. i mean, victoria talks onour nerng— always. i mean, victoria talks about being friends. i was never about being friends. i was never orneno— about being friends. i was never orneno or— about being friends. i was never orneno or ony— about being friends. i was never a friend of any member of the noyor— royal family. i sort of had i was-privileged- royal family. i sort of had i was privileged to be was very privileged to be associated _ was very privileged to be associated with was very privileged to be- associated _with them. associated and work with them. and,— and, you know, that that that onoo— and, you know, that that that that extraordinary with that was was extraordinary with the that was was extraordinary with one rnneeee— that was was extraordinary with the princess royal. i think the king— the princess royal. i think the king nrneen— the princess royal. i think the king himself has— the princess royal. i think the king himself has made it quite ereor— king himself has made it quite ereor onoo— king himself has made it quite clear that he— king himself has made it quite clear that he wants to her play a more important— clear that he wants to her play a more important role. and i rnrnk— a more important role. and i run more— a more important role. and i think that's right. a more important role. and i think that's right . well, you think that's right. well, you row— think that's right. well, you on onour— think that's right. well, you talk about sort— think that's right. well, you talk about sort of work experience, _ talk about sort of work experience, job numbers. so one-e— experience, job numbers. so ene-e orwoye— experience, job numbers. so she's always sort— experience, job numbers. so she's always sort of been at the top she's always sort of been at the on or— she's always sort of been at the on or rne— she's always sort of been at the top of the table.— she's always sort of been at the top of the table. she's got the orozreer— top of the table. she's got the craziest diary,— top of the table. she's got the craziest diary, hasn't she? veon. — craziest diary, hasn't she? veon. wren— craziest diary, hasn't she? yeah. well she- craziest diary, hasn't she? yeah. well she has. i mean, but you— yeah. well she has. i mean, but you know,— yeah. well she has. i mean, but you know, .,_ yeah. well she has. i mean, but you know, ., you— yeah. well she has. i mean, but you know, i, you know, an rnworuonre— you know, i, you know, an invaluable member to this this rnnneo— invaluable member to this this trimmed down— invaluable member to this this trimmed down monarchy that we row— trimmed down monarchy that we on woun— trimmed down monarchy that we talk about. you— trimmed down monarchy that we talk about. you say— trimmed down monarchy that we talk about. you say that perhaps nor.— talk about. you say that perhaps nor. r— talk about. you say that perhaps nor. r oo— talk about. you say that perhaps not. i do think— talk about. you say that perhaps not. i do think it— talk about. you say that perhaps not. i do think it will be rnnneo— not. i do think it will be trimmed down- not. i do think it will be trimmed down because don't you rnrnk— trimmed down because don't you run guer— trimmed down because don't you run we r— trimmed down because don't you think just i feel— trimmed down because don't you think just i feel like they need neornee— think just i feel like they need beatrice and— think just i feel like they need beatrice and they need those younger— beatrice and they need those younger ones— beatrice and they need those younger ones to— beatrice and they need those younger ones to be fulfilling
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or— younger ones to be fulfilling some of those— younger ones to be fulfilling some of those roles that they . i some of those roles that they. i rnrnk— some of those roles that they. i run r— some of those roles that they. i think i disagree— some of those roles that they. i think i disagree with that. i onrnk— think i disagree with that. i think because— think i disagree with that. i think because we haven't talked onour— think because we haven't talked onour n,— think because we haven't talked onour in our— think because we haven't talked about it, but the— think because we haven't talked about it, but the cost of oeruouy— about it, but the cost of actually funding this family is more starbucks.— actually funding this family is more starbucks. well i think is a more starbucks. well i think is o on— more starbucks. well i think is o on more— more starbucks. well i think is a bit more than— more starbucks. well i think is a bit more than that. but i mean you— a bit more than that. but i mean you know— a bit more than that. but i mean you know more— a bit more than that. but i mean you know that's that's the gronren. — you know that's that's the problem. and— you know that's that's the problem. and i- you know that's that's the problem. and i think this is an issue— problem. and i think this is an rne— problem. and i think this is an issue the old— problem. and i think this is an issue the old guard too much. wou— issue the old guard too much. new. no— issue the old guard too much. new. nonr— issue the old guard too much. well, no,-i think- issue the old guard too much. well, no,-i think they're. well, no, but i think they're lying you know, but i think lying on, you know, but i think that's the issue that the king itself taking. i think that's the issue that the king itself taking. ithink he itself is taking. i think he wonre— itself is taking. i think he wonre ne— itself is taking. i think he wants he wants- itself is taking. i think he wants he wants to- g i think he wants he wants to be seen itself is taking. i think he wants he wants to be seen be wants he wants to be seen to be going—ro— wants he wants to be seen to be oorng—ro ny- wants he wants to be seen to be oorng—ro rry ono- doing something to try and reuoe— doing something to try and reduce .cost. - doing something to try and reduce cost. and i think reduce that cost. and i think rne— reduce that cost. and i think the-beatrice,- reduce that cost. and i think. the-beatrice,-know, the likes of beatrice, you know, one — the likes of beatrice, you know, one _run- don't. but don't you think because generation because of this newer generation that and, you know, that is coming up and, you know, some of them are not all, you know, as into the royal know, as much into the royal family the older generation. family as the older generation. so shouldn't younger members family as the older generation. so shofamily younger members family as the older generation. so shofamily givenjer members family as the older generation. so shofamily given rolesembers family as the older generation. so shofamily given roles sobers of the family be given roles so they relate to those? well they can relate to those? well but i think that's what will happen with with the prince and princess of wales now with their young children. they'll play the role young children. they'll play the rote-rney— young children. they'll play the role .they .when - young children. they'll play the role .they .when they - role that they did when they were-young- role that they did when they were young with were were then young with with the were were then young with with rne-ano, — were were then young with with the _and, - know, - were were then young with with the _and, - know, in l the prince. and, you know, in rne— the prince. and, you know, in one eee— the prince. and, you know, in one eee-eoe.— the prince. and, you know, in the 80s-90s. but- the prince. and, you know, in the 80s 90s. but i think to the 80s and 90s. but i think to roke— the 80s and 90s. but i think to rokelneyono— the 80s and 90s. but i think to takelbeyond-start. take it beyond that, to start rneruorng— take it beyond that, to start including others, i think is nobody— including others, i think is. pronoun—we
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probably something that we wouron-r— probably something that we wouron-r ne— probably something that we wouldn't be to. c: wouldn't be able to. i'll tell you— wouldn't be able to. i'll tell you wnon— wouldn't be able to. i'll tell you what, this run and you what, this could run and run, the next hour, we've run, but in the next hour, we've got paul coming and got paul burrell coming in and kinsey schofield. kinsey schofield, _ kinsey schofield. kinsey schofield, in schofield, paul burrell. and in my schofield, paul burrell. and in ny-ren— schofield, paul burrell. and in ny-ren ru— schofield, paul burrell. and in my ten, i'll making my take a ten, i'll be making rne— my take a ten, i'll be making one for— my take a ten, i'll be making one for eoee— my take a ten, i'll be making the for case queen
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it's coronation eve and the eounroown— it's coronation eve and the countdown to _ it's coronation eve and the countdown to the biggest constitutional— countdown to the biggest constitutional moment of the eenrury— constitutional moment of the eenrury eo— constitutional moment of the eenrury no for— constitutional moment of the century so far on— constitutional moment of the century so far on mark dolan ronrgnr— century so far on mark dolan ronrgnr rn— century so far on mark dolan ronrgnr in o— century so far on mark dolan tonight in a special show live non— tonight in a special show live from buckingham palace. we've got from buckingham palace. we've gor rne— from buckingham palace. we've gor rne gunme— from buckingham palace. we've got the pundits, the royal expens— got the pundits, the royal expene ,— got the pundits, the royal expene , rne— got the pundits, the royal experts , the journalists, the experts, the journalists, the urogrognere— experts, the journalists, the biographers and we've got you, the biographers and we've got you, one greor— biographers and we've got you, the great british— biographers and we've got you, the great british public, for wnor— the great british public, for wnor re— the great british public, for wnor n o— the great british public, for what is a night— the great british public, for what is a night of anticipation, exorrenenr— what is a night of anticipation, excitement and— what is a night of anticipation, excitement and celebration eonrng— excitement and celebration coming up— excitement and celebration coming up this— excitement and celebration coming up this hour in my take at coming up this hour in my take or ren— coming up this hour in my take or en ru— coming up this hour in my take or en in ne— coming up this hour in my take at ten, i'll be making the case for oueen— at ten, i'll be making the case for queen camilla. it's my view onoo— for queen camilla. it's my view rnor ene— for queen camilla. it's my view no one wru— for queen camilla. it's my view that she will be— for queen camilla. it's my view that she will be the jewel in rne— that she will be the jewel in rne crown— that she will be the jewel in the crown of— that she will be the jewel in the crown of this new monarchy .
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plus with me here tonight live at plus with me here tonight live or rne— plus with me here tonight live or one porooe— plus with me here tonight live or one poroee ,— plus with me here tonight live at the palace , she's flown in on at the palace, she's flown in on ner— at the palace, she's flown in on ner on— at the palace, she's flown in on ner royor— at the palace, she's flown in on her own royal private jet. the gueen— her own royal private jet. the queen of— her own royal private jet. the queen of ue— her own royal private jet. the queen of us showbiz and royal droning,— queen of us showbiz and royal regonrng, nneey— queen of us showbiz and royal reporting, kinsey schofield . and reporting, kinsey schofield. and oreo gor— reporting, kinsey schofield. and we've also got former fleet sneer— we've also got former fleet sneer royor— we've also got former fleet street royal reporter linda runrree— street royal reporter linda jubilee and— street royal reporter linda jubilee and live down here at the jubilee and live down here at one poioee— jubilee and live down here at the palace, diana's former tuner— the palace, diana's former nurrer ,— the palace, diana's former butler , paul— the palace, diana's former butler , paul burrell. the palace, diana's former butler , paul burrell . and we've butler, paul burrell. and we've got butler, paul burrell. and we've gor rornonow-e— butler, paul burrell. and we've got tomorrow's front pages at reee— got tomorrow's front pages at roeo snore— got tomorrow's front pages at 1030 sharp. there's only one snow— 1030 sharp. there's only one enow rn— 1030 sharp. there's only one show in town. _ 1030 sharp. there's only one show in town. it's- 1030 sharp. there's only one show in town. it's all about the coronorron— show in town. it's all about the coronation countdown . you won't coronation countdown. you won't wonr— coronation countdown. you won't wonr ro— coronation countdown. you won't wonr ro mne— coronation countdown. you won't wonr ro o— coronation countdown. you won't want to miss a second of the onion.— want to miss a second of the onion. ore-ve— want to miss a second of the action. we've got— want to miss a second of the action. we've got ringside eeoer — action. we've got ringside seats. don't— action. we've got ringside seats. don't forget that take at ten seats. don't forget that take at ren re— seats. don't forget that take at ren is coming.— seats. don't forget that take at ten is coming. but first, the neoounee— ten is coming. but first, the headlines with— ten is coming. but first, the headlines with bethany elsey kwoer — headlines with bethany elsey kwoer .— headlines with bethany elsey kwoer . now— headlines with bethany elsey kwasi . mark thank you. t: kwasi. mark thank you. good evening. — kwasi. mark thank you. good evening. rn— kwasi. mark thank you. good evening. i'm bethany elsey with your top stories from the gb newsroom. in the first major test for prime minister rishi
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sunak, the conservative party has lost control of 48 councils in england and more than a thousand seats, with just a few councils still left to declare results . labour has councils still left to declare results. labour has gained 22 councils and is now the largest political party at local government level. the liberal democrats have gained 12 councils and the green party has won their first outright majority of a council for the first time. securing mid—suffolk erg rishi sunak has admitted the results are disappointing , while results are disappointing, while sir keir starmer and sir ed davey celebrated their wins , davey celebrated their wins, it's always disappointing to lose hard working conservative councillors , their friends, councillors, their friends, their colleagues and i'm so grateful to them for everything. what i am going to carry on going— what i am going to carry on going re— what i am going to carry on doing is delivering on the geopre-e— doing is delivering on the people's priorities, halving rnrrorron— people's priorities, halving inflation, growing economy, inflation, growing the economy, reouerng— inflation, growing the economy, reducing—waiting. reducing debt, cutting waiting uee— reducing debt, cutting waiting were—noorel reducing debt, cutting waitingi were—noon . lists and stopping the boats. sonne— lists and stopping the boats. some soon— lists and stopping the boats. some story rn— lists and stopping the boats. same story in plymouth- lists and stopping the boats. same story in plymouth in stoke up in middlesbrough . these are up in middlesbrough. these are the key battlegrounds as we go into the next election and make no mistake, this means that we
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are on course for a labour majority at the next election. a fantastic result for the liberal democrats groundbreaking results. people have lost trust wron— results. people have lost trust wrrn rne— people have lost trust with the conservatives as they rnrnk— with the conservatives as they wink-rook— with the conservatives as they think lack integrity , that think they lack integrity, that rney— think they lack integrity, that rney oon-r— think they lack integrity, that they don't care— think they lack integrity, that they don't care about people and rney-re— they don't care about people and rney-re guer— they don't care about people and rney-re iuer our— they don't care about people and they're just out of— they don't care about people and they're just out of touch. so i onrn— they're just out of touch. so i think we-ye— they're just out of touch. so i think we've benefited from a positive vote for the liberal democrats and a and a vote from lifelong conservatives who who won't vote conservative again . won't vote conservative again. on the eve of the king's coronation,— on the eve of the king's coronation, the king and the prince— coronation, the king and the prince ono— coronation, the king and the prince and princess of wales nove— prince and princess of wales nowe greereo— prince and princess of wales have greeted well—wishers on the non— have greeted well—wishers on the non . — have greeted well—wishers on the mall. congratulations,- have greeted well—wishers on the mall . g / mall. congratulations, yvette cooper. mall. congratulations, yvette cooper . you look much younger in cooper. you look much younger in the flesh and you look peter murrell king charles made a surprise appearance to meet with some of the thousands gathered outside buckingham palace . outside buckingham palace. william and kate joined the king for rne— william and kate joined the king for the walkabout. _ william and kate joined the king for the walkabout. they praised the for the walkabout. they praised rne pony— for the walkabout. they praised the party atmosphere and described— the party atmosphere and described the— the party atmosphere and described the coronation as a greor— described the coronation as a greor rnornenr— described the coronation as a great moment of— described the coronation as a great moment of celebration. the owners,— great moment of celebration. the royalists, who've— great moment of celebration. the royalists, who've been camping
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out royalists, who've been camping our noprng— royalists, who've been camping our nogrng ro— royalists, who've been camping out hoping to catch a glimpse of nrerory— out hoping to catch a glimpse of nrerory nerng— out hoping to catch a glimpse of history being made this weekend, nove— history being made this weekend, have described— history being made this weekend, have described it— history being made this weekend, have described it as a once in a uterine— have described it as a once in a lifetime opportunity . �*fo�*ri have described it as a once in a lifetime opportunity . �*fhi ”i�*hr’iijiii; lifetime opportunity. we were urerouy— lifetime opportunity. we were urerouy tun— lifetime opportunity. we were literally just walking back to the hotel and then we just saw everybody cheering and came over and then saw the king and shook the hand. you've got to shake the hand. you've got to shake rne nono— the hand. you've got to shake the hand through— “air: you've got to shake the hand through the crowd. ' r: the hand through the crowd. and i the hand through the crowd. and r-onoke— the hand through the crowd. and r-snoke nu— the hand through the crowd. and i-shake his hand. i- the hand through the crowd. and i-shake his hand. i think| i got to shake his hand. i think this is britain at— i got to shake his hand. i think this is britain at its— i got to shake his hand. i think this is britain at its best.- gzr i “fir: i think this is britain at its best. you know,— this is britain at its best. you know, everybody's nattering to everybody. — everybody. there's no stiff upper— everybody. there's no stiff. upper—ore upper lip. it's just lovely. we guer— upper lip. it's just lovely. we iuer wonreo— upper lip. it's just lovely. we just wanted to _ upper lip. it's just lovely. we just wanted to be a part of nrerory— just wanted to be a part of nrerory ono— just wanted to be a part of history and enjoy the you know, nonooy— history and enjoy the you know, nonooy ooee— history and enjoy the you know, nobody does it— history and enjoy the you know, nobody does it better than the onion. — nobody does it better than the onion. so— nobody does it better than the british. so we— nobody does it better than the british. : british. so we wanted to see all the excitement and be a part of it. the the excitement and be a part of it . the leader of russia's it. the leader of russia's urogner— it. the leader of russia's wogner eroun— a the leader of russia's wagner group has threatened to wrrnorow— wagner group has threatened to wrrnorow nie— wagner group has threatened to withdraw his troops from bakhmut in withdraw his troops from bakhmut rn eoren— withdraw his troops from bakhmut in eastern ukraine— withdraw his troops from bakhmut in eastern ukraine by wednesday . rne— in eastern ukraine by wednesday . rne roueeron— in eastern ukraine by wednesday . the russian mercenary force noe— . the russian mercenary force noe ueen— . the russian mercenary force noe ueen rryrng— . the russian mercenary force has been trying to capture the for ony— has been trying to capture the for city months— has been trying to capture the for city months in— has been trying to capture the for city months in a big setback for city months in a big setback for rne— for city months in a big setback for the russian— for city months in a big setback for the russian invasion. its reooen— for the russian invasion. its leader, yevgeny_ for the russian invasion. its leader, yevgeny prigozhin, says his leader, yevgeny prigozhin, says no forces— leader, yevgeny prigozhin, says his forces will— leader, yevgeny prigozhin, says his forces will have to pull out due— his forces will have to pull out due ro— his forces will have to pull out due ro neowy— his forces will have to pull out due to heavy losses unless they receive more ammunition . the
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receive more ammunition. the wond— receive more ammunition. the word neonn— receive more ammunition. the world health organisation has announced that— world health organisation has announced that covid 19 is no ronger— announced that covid 19 is no ronger o— announced that covid 19 is no ronger o gronor— announced that covid 19 is no longer a global health emergency.— longer a global health emergency. it's a step towards the emergency. it's a step towards one eno— emergency. it's a step towards one end or— emergency. it's a step towards one end of o— emergency. it's a step towards the end of a pandemic that has hired— the end of a pandemic that has hired neony— the end of a pandemic that has killed nearly 7— the end of a pandemic that has killed nearly 7 million people gronouy— killed nearly 7 million people gronouy .— killed nearly 7 million people gronouy . rne— killed nearly 7 million people globally . the head of the who. globally. the head of the who. ooro— globally. the head of the who. said countries— globally. the head of the who. said countries shouldn't let down— said countries shouldn't let down onen— said countries shouldn't let down their guard , warning the down their guard, warning the virus— down their guard, warning the re— down their guard, warning the re ro— down their guard, warning the virus is to here— down their guard, warning the virus is to here stay . you're up virus is to here stay. you're up to virus is to here stay. you're up ro gore— virus is to here stay. you're up ro oore on— virus is to here stay. you're up ro oore on on— virus is to here stay. you're up to date on gb news. we'll bring you— to date on gb news. we'll bring you more— to date on gb news. we'll bring you more news as— to date on gb news. we'll bring you more news as it happens. now rnougn— you more news as it happens. now rnougn rr-e— you more news as it happens. now rnougn, no book— you more news as it happens. now though, it's back to— you more news as it happens. now though, it's back to .— though, it's back to. mark rr-e— though, it's back to. mark it's coronation— though, it's back to. mark it's coronation eve and the eounroown— it's coronation eve and the countdown to _ it's coronation eve and the countdown to the biggest constitutional— countdown to the biggest constitutional moment of the eenrury— constitutional moment of the eenrury eo— constitutional moment of the eenrury no for— constitutional moment of the century so far on— constitutional moment of the century so far on mark dolan ronrgnr— century so far on mark dolan ronrgnr rn— century so far on mark dolan ronrgnr in o— century so far on mark dolan tonight in a special show live non— tonight in a special show live from buckingham palace, we've got from buckingham palace, we've gor rne— from buckingham palace, we've gor rne punorre— from buckingham palace, we've gor rne gunorre ,— from buckingham palace, we've got the pundits , the royal got the pundits, the royal expens— got the pundits, the royal expene, rne— got the pundits, the royal experts, the journalists and the urogrognere. — experts, the journalists and the biographers. and— experts, the journalists and the biographers. r: grin experts, the journalists and the biographers. ' r: gir biographers. and we've got you, the great british public, for what is a night of anticipation , excitement and celebration on
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it. my take at ten, i'll be making the case for queen camilla. it's my view that she will be the jewel in the crown of this new monarchy that's coming in just a second. last we've got tomorrow's headlines. hot off the press at exactly 1030 sharp and we will be joined by the us queen of showbiz royal and political reporting, kinsey schofield and a man who knows the royals better than they know themselves. diana's former butler, paul burrell . plus x top butler, paul burrell. plus x top royal journalist linda jubilee . royal journalist linda jubilee. and they're all live with me here at the palace . it's a cast here at the palace. it's a cast of thousands. and i want your emails throughout the mark at gbnews.uk. in this hour, we'll be asking , has the public be asking, has the public forgiven charles for his treatment of diana ? has william treatment of diana? has william always been charles's favourite? and is to charles woke to be king? and here's another one. is he too old? we'll discuss that shortly . so we've got ringside shortly. so we've got ringside seats. it is the coronation
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countdown . and let's start with countdown. and let's start with this . this. romeo and juliet, eat your heart out. charles and camilla is the ultimate story of romance and the very definition of forbidden love. it was the queen who blocked their initial union because camilla didn't have the most virginal of cvs. because camilla didn't have the most virginal of cvs . she's been most virginal of cvs. she's been around the block more often than around the block more often than a lost uber driver. around the block more often than a lost uber driver . and as with a lost uber driver. and as with any any shakespeare play, the seeds of tragedy were sown early on with this doting couple torn apart by stifling royal protocol , leading instead to charles and diana's disastrously unhappy marriage , which was a shambles marriage, which was a shambles from the start . but now many from the start. but now many will never forgive charles for his alleged adulterous affair with camilla. but i think that's double standards, given that diana at the time was herself shafting more people than a
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timeshare salesman following diana's funeral . when charles diana's funeral. when charles and camilla officially came out as a couple, camilla was public enemy number one, the most famous homewrecker on the planet. and this union between the two was about as welcome as a in an elevator. the two was about as welcome as a in an elevator . however, since a in an elevator. however, since then , camilla hasn't put a foot then, camilla hasn't put a foot wrong. she's taken the angry stares, the boos , the hisses and stares, the boos, the hisses and the judgemental glances with dignity , never once lashing out dignity, never once lashing out or telling her detractors where to go . since day one, she has to go. since day one, she has always put charles first, which makes her the perfect person to be his queen. she has pursued her charitable causes, particularly for those impacted by the appalling crime of domestic abuse with huge commitments and energy. people used to joke about camilla being horse like. what a terrible insult. and so far from the truth, she's a deeply elegant and attractive lady. now, be
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clear , charles has got his work clear, charles has got his work cut out . he is clear, charles has got his work cutout. he is 74 clear, charles has got his work cut out . he is 74 years of age, cut out. he is 74 years of age, albeit a sprightly one. it's far from easy becoming king, particularly this late in life, if we're honest , he should if we're honest, he should probably be watering his geranium at this moment. but fate has chosen for him a different path . and as we saw in different path. and as we saw in the days after his mother, elizabeth's sad death , including elizabeth's sad death, including the moment when charles's pen exploded covid in his hand. do you remember that camilla was there to comfort and support him? a wise head, a caring partner there to break the tension with a touch of humour or words of reassurance? that's camilla behind every great man is a great woman. well, i don't think queen camilla will be behind charles. i think she'll behind charles. i think she'll be right there next to him, front and centre . and her great front and centre. and her great challenge is to support the king and fly the flag for great britain. i'm certain camilla will do it with grace. good
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humour and care. long live the king. absolutely. but long live the queen to . now don't the queen to. now don't forget on his way to our lovely studio here at the palace is paul burrell and top journalist linda jubilee. but with me for the houris jubilee. but with me for the hour is the jewel in the crown of mark dolan tonight, especially on saturdays. it's the queen of us showbiz, royal and political reporting here in london, schofield . london, kinsey schofield. kinsey, great to see you face to face. that's from the intro to my reel. you saying that that's now— my reel. you saying that that's now rngononr— my reel. you saying that that's how important-are- ”cc; you saying that that's how important are me. how important you are to me. wren— how important you are to me. wen—ano- how important you are to me. wen—ann oo- how important you are to me. well—and to curl well vice versa. and to our viewers listeners, love viewers and listeners, we love checking with you every checking in with you every saturday night when we talk about royal stories, we talk about royal stories, we talk about politics as well. about american politics as well. and joe biden all the rest of it. for politics the next it. but no for politics the next couple of this royal couple of days. this is a royal celebration. absolutely. and nornouy— celebration. absolutely. and nornouy r— celebration. absolutely. and normally i am— t.riai " absolutely. and normally i am watching at normally i am watching you at none,— normally i am watching you at none—you.- normally i am watching you at none—you. so- normally i am watching you at home,_you. solis home, cackling at you. so it is so home, cackling at you. so it is eo-ro— home, cackling at you. so it is eo-ro err— home, cackling at you. so it is eo-ro err ro— home, cackling at you. so it is so-to sit to next- home, cackling at you. so it is so to sit to next you and
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so hard to sit to next you and nor— so hard to sit to next you and nor-our— so hard to sit to next you and nor-our-rnor- so hard to sit to next you and not-out-that it. so hard to sit to next you andi not-out-that it was not laugh out loud that it was an not laugh out loud that it was on onozrng— not laugh out loud that it was an amazing monologue. o" an amazing monologue. oh, bless you.— an amazing monologue. oh, bless you—onrn— an amazing monologue. oh, bless you. think there you. well i don't think there was remotely was anything remotely controversial at controversial in there. not at all. let's let's talk about do you when they you remember when they when diana her rottweiler? diana called her rottweiler? it's not just horse she it's not just horse face. she reouy— it's not just horse face. she reouy rook— it's not just horse face. she really took some- it's not just horse face. she really took some tough hits. new— really took some tough hits. wen, rnor-e— really took some tough hits. well, that's right . ' r: really took some tough hits. well, that's right. 'r: well, that's right. and this is why— well, that's right. and this is why you struggle to reconcile while this new royal marriage with what happened in the past, because you are a diana loyalist . your podcast is called to die for daily. your website is to die for daily.com. and if i can get a little shot of this this is the book which is now a best seller and it is called r is for revenge dress , a princess diana revenge dress, a princess diana inspired alphabet book for grown ups. right. it's doing really well . and you are in team diana well. and you are in team diana . so do you struggle with my positive words about camilla? i don't, because i do think roworoe— don't, because i do think towards the— don't, because i do think towards the end of diana's life , ene— towards the end of diana's life , ene eroneo— towards the end of diana's life , she started to— towards the end of diana's life , she started to recognise that onoo— , she started to recognise that no rove— , she started to recognise that that love, the— , she started to recognise that that love, the authentic , the that love, the authentic, the ournenrrerry— that love, the authentic, the authenticity between, you know, ournenrrerry— authenticity between, you know, authenticity between, you know, authenticity between charles and conruo. — authenticity between charles and conruo. rn— authenticity between charles and camilla. in fact— authenticity between charles and camilla. in fact ,— authenticity between charles and camilla. in fact , they say that camilla. in fact, they say that one —
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camilla. in fact, they say that one ooro— camilla. in fact, they say that one son ro— camilla. in fact, they say that she said to prince— camilla. in fact, they say that she said to prince william , she said to prince william, nueu— she said to prince william, gueu onoo— she said to prince william, pursue that love, pursue sue. rnor-e— pursue that love, pursue sue. rnor-e uue— pursue that love, pursue sue. that's true love.— pursue that love, pursue sue. that's true love. you know, onwouery— that's true love. you know, obviously i'm— that's true love. you know, obviously i'm hurt by the way onoo— obviously i'm hurt by the way that everything— obviously i'm hurt by the way that everything came to fruition and that everything came to fruition ono rr-e— that everything came to fruition one we wny— that everything came to fruition and it's why diana's not here onyoe rrury— and it's why diana's not here anymore. truly but i respect onen— anymore. truly but i respect their relationship and i ernoerery— their relationship and i sincerely believe that they're eournoree. — sincerely believe that they're soulmates. like— sincerely believe that they're soulmates. like you said in your nonorogue— soulmates. like you said in your nonorogue . — soulmates. like you said in your monologue . yes.— soulmates. like you said in your monologue . yes. i— soulmates. like you said in your monologue . “cit? " soulmates. like you said in your monologue. “cit? ”iii; monologue. yes. i mean, you're so knowledgeable about princess diana. you've loved her since you a little girl. can you you were a little girl. can you give us a sense of the turmoil she went having to she went through having to coexist with three people in that marriage as she puts it, she was desperately in love with prince charles. and i do think onoo— prince charles. and i do think no ene— prince charles. and i do think no ene oe— prince charles. and i do think that she was in— prince charles. and i do think that she was in love- 37” ti and i do think that she was in love not only wron— that she was in love not only wrrn rnnoe— that she was in love not only with prince charles, but the neo— with prince charles, but the roeo or— with prince charles, but the idea of being— with prince charles, but the idea of being this princess that count— idea of being this princess that could inevitably— idea of being this princess that could inevitably become the oueen— could inevitably become the queen one day.— could inevitably become the queen one day. and you know, she knew— queen one day. and you know, she knew ene— queen one day. and you know, she knew ene oe— queen one day. and you know, she knew she was beautiful and yournruk— knew she was beautiful and youthful and— knew she was beautiful and youthful and popular. and i rnrnk— youthful and popular. and i onrnk n— youthful and popular. and i think it ate— youthful and popular. and i think it ate her— youthful and popular. and i think it ate her up inside eongonng— think it ate her up inside comparing herself to camilla and erruggkrng— comparing herself to camilla and erruggkrng ro— comparing herself to camilla and struggling to determine even wnor— struggling to determine even wnor ene— struggling to determine even what she had,— struggling to determine even what she had, that diana didn't. ano— what she had, that diana didn't. no r— what she had, that diana didn't. no r neon— what she had, that diana didn't. no r n— what she had, that diana didn't. and i mean it literally did eat
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her and i mean it literally did eat ner un— and i mean it literally did eat ner up newe— and i mean it literally did eat her up inside. she had multiple eorrng— her up inside. she had multiple eating disorders— her up inside. she had multiple eating disorders and mental neokrn— eating disorders and mental health issues— eating disorders and mental health issues .— eating disorders and mental health issues . so i ache when health issues. so i ache when i onrnk— health issues. so i ache when i onrnk onour— health issues. so i ache when i think about those— health issues. so i ache when i think about those instances and i think about those instances and r rnrnk— think about those instances and r onrnk onoo— think about those instances and i think that that's— think about those instances and i think that that's why you see rnnee— i think that that's why you see prince william— i think that that's why you see prince william so— i think that that's why you see prince william so aggressively enonnroneo— prince william so aggressively championed mental health today. and wno— championed mental health today. and who oo— championed mental health today. and who no you— championed mental health today. and who do you see— championed mental health today. and who do you see as— championed mental health today. and who do you see as the- and who do you see as the villain of the piece here? is it camilla herself or was it charles for taking this mistress 7 charles for taking this mistress ? oh, that's such a hard gueerron— 7’ oh, that's such a hard question, because because she norneo— question, because because she norneo ro— question, because because she was married to andrew parker nowkee— was married to andrew parker nowkee . — was married to andrew parker nowkee . nur— was married to andrew parker bowles. 'r: was married to andrew parker- bowles . but andrew parker bowles bowles. but andrew parker bowles was never stopped dating. right. he was philanderer , so there he was a philanderer, so there no porno— he was a philanderer, so there was no point her— he was a philanderer, so there was no point her being loyal. nur— was no point her being loyal. our ne— was no point her being loyal. but he-invite- was no point her being loyal. but he-invitelthel but he got an invite to the wedding. — but he got an invite to the wedding. .good- but he got an invite to the wedding. 3: i but he got an invite to the- wedding. .good for him. or the wedding. so good for him. or the coronation coronation. coronation yeah, the coronation. he to the he got an invite to the coronation the bad guy ? i coronation who's the bad guy? i do think that charles knew that it was monarchy over everything . and when you take a mistress, so and reckless things start to happen, negative headlines , you happen, negative headlines, you are putting the monarchy in jeopardy . arnie. if i had to jeopardy. arnie. if i had to pick a bad guy, i hate to pick a bad guy, but i'd say charles
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should know better. and we know that and prince that queen elizabeth and prince philip down with him and philip sat down with him and tried set straight about philip sat down with him and triedandyet straight about philip sat down with him and triedandyet choseraight about philip sat down with him and triedandyet chose toght about philip sat down with him and triedandyet chose to pursueut that and he chose to pursue love. have you forgiven camilla? i love. have you forgiven camilla? r nove— love. have you forgiven camilla? r nowe rorgwen— have you forgiven camilla? i have forgiven camilla, because i have forgiven camilla, because rlrnrnk— i have forgiven camilla, because rlrnrnk onoo— i have forgiven camilla, because i.think that we— i have forgiven camilla, because i think that we were the i do think that we were the negro— i do think that we were the negro oe— i do think that we were the media was horrible to her at the one. — media was horrible to her at the one. ano— media was horrible to her at the one. and ene— media was horrible to her at the time. and she kept— media was horrible to her at the time. ' media was horrible to her at the time. r: r: time. and she kept quiet. she kept you know, she just stayed by charles's side. and i think she was in it for the right reasons. and she's played a gang...— reasons. and she's played a blinder, really— and she's played a blinder, really since she came our— blinder, really since she came our gunnery— blinder, really since she came out publicly with— blinder, really since she came out publicly with prince cnorkee. — out publicly with prince cnorkee. r— out publicly with prince charles. i can't think of a erngke— charles. i can't think of a erngke gone,— charles. i can't think of a single gaffe, really? hrir single gaffe, really? no, i oon-r— single gaffe, really? no, i don't think— single gaffe, really? no, i don't think so— single gaffe, really? no, i don't think so at all. i can think of charles has had a few, but i think that she has stayed pretty low key and in doing so, i think a lot of people have gained respect for her. okay. well, look , what's- gained respect for her. okay. well, look , what's your- well, look, what's your oggroreok— well, look, what's your appraisal of— well, look, what's your appraisal of queen camilla? do you rnrnk— appraisal of queen camilla? do you think she'll— appraisal of queen camilla? do you think she'll be a good gueene— you think she'll be a good gueene oo— you think she'll be a good queen? do you— you think she'll be a good queen? do you share my enthusiasm— queen? do you share my enthusiasm for her reign? is she your— enthusiasm for her reign? is she your gueene— enthusiasm for her reign? is she your queen? margaret gbnews.uk. hey, your queen? margaret gbnews.uk. ney, eonrng— your queen? margaret gbnews.uk. ney, eonrng un— your queen? margaret gbnews.uk. hey, coming up, has the public forgiven— hey, coming up, has the public forgiven charles— hey, coming up, has the public forgiven charles for his treatment— forgiven charles for his treatment diana ? we'll kind
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treatment of diana? we'll kind of treatment of diana? we'll kind or-rnro— treatment of diana? we'll kind or-rnro o— treatment of diana? we'll kind of-into a little— treatment of diana? we'll kind of into a little more of of tap into a little bit more of nag,— of tap into a little bit more of won-rwe— of tap into a little bit more of that,-live here- of tap into a little bit more of that,-live here in- of tap into a little bit more of that, live here in our that, plus live here in our ourooor— that, plus live here in our outdoor studio— that, plus live here in our outdoor studio at the palace . outdoor studio at the palace. in — outdoor studio at the palace. r-n oekrgnreo— outdoor studio at the palace. i'm delighted to— outdoor studio at the palace. i'm delighted to welcoming i'm delighted to be welcoming nour— i'm delighted to be welcoming paul burrell,— i'm delighted to be welcoming paul burrell, diana's former nurker— paul burrell, diana's former nurker .— paul burrell, diana's former butler. more— paul burrell, diana's former butler . more from paul burrell, diana's former butler. more from kinsey senoneko— butler. more from kinsey schofield and- butler. more from kinsey schofield and top journalist ungo— schofield and top journalist linda jubilee— schofield and top journalist linda jubilee as well. it's all noggenrng— linda jubilee as well. it's all happening, folks. see you .
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listening to gb news radio. welcome back to mark dolan i welcome back to mark dolan ronrgnr— . welcome back to mark dolan tonight-coronation- tonight and the coronation countdown. _ tonight and the coronation countdown. i— tonight and the coronation countdown. t i a tonight and the coronation countdown. cr?" c tonight and the coronation countdown. rt?“ a countdown. i can't settle my guests because they're just so full things to say. there's full of things to say. there's so much chemistry. it is the queen of us, showbiz, royal and political reporting , a big star political reporting, a big star on and on this show, of course, and across lots networks. now, on this show, of course, and acropleased networks. now, on this show, of course, and acropleased rsayorks. now, on this show, of course, and acropleased rsay kinsey)w, i'm pleased to say kinsey schofield another star for schofield and another star for one the kings the jungle one of the kings of the jungle and top former and of course, a top former royal butler to diana , to the royal butler to diana, to the princess of wales, no less , paul princess of wales, no less, paul burrell. paul, great to see you
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. it's good to be here in such rude health. we know you've been to back with with your to hell and back with with your health you're road to health and you're on the road to recovery here you are at the recovery and here you are at the palace. it's to back palace. it's good to be back home. this my home for 11 home. this is my home for 11 years. what is it looking years. what is it like looking looking home and from looking at your home and from this this it this side, from this side, it looks different. have you spotted— looks different. have you egorreo ony— looks different. have you spotted any dirty- looks different. have you spotted any dirty that spotted any dirty windows that need — spotted any dirty windows that need—r— spotted any dirty windows that need _ i spotted - spotted any dirty windows that. need—i spotted tonight need a polish? i spotted tonight that my light isn't lit, my room isn't lit, so there's nobody home. can you see your room from the streets ? oh, yes. it's on the streets? oh, yes. it's on the streets? oh, yes. it's on the top the streets? oh, yes. it's on one rog rkoor. — the streets? oh, yes. it's on the top floor. you- the streets? oh, yes. it's on the top floor. you see- 7 o" «wilt? it's on the top floor. you see that none— the top floor. you see that little white _ the top floor. you see that little white light in top little white light in the top corner on the _ little white light in the top corner on the very top floor? kee. — corner on the very top floor? kee. counr— corner on the very top floor? yes. count three _ corner on the very top floor? yes. count three in— corner on the very top floor? yes. count three in from - corner on the very top floor? yes. count three in from there. and where lived . oh, yes. count three in from there. and where lived. oh, my and that's where i lived. oh, my gosh. the stories you— and that's where i lived. oh, my gosh. the stories you could- gosh. the stories you could reru— gosh. the stories you could rein—wron- gosh. the stories you could tell._with a- gosh. the stories you could- tell._with a dartboard tell. the room with a dartboard with charles's face on it, isn't it? oh, a room it? oh, it's certainly a room wron— it? oh, it's certainly a room wrrn-. — it? oh, it's certainly a room wrrn-. rn- it? oh, it's certainly a room with-. i'm pleasedl it? oh, it's certainly a room. with-. i'm pleased to it? oh, it's certainly a room- with-. i'm pleased to hear with a view. i'm pleased to hear it. do you miss those days working palace? i do. working in the palace? i do. i miss the people. i miss our late gueen— miss the people. i miss our late gueen ono— miss the people. i miss our late gueen ono of— miss the people. i miss our late queen and of course,— i miss our late queen and of course, this coronorron— queen and of course, this coronation is— queen and of course, this coronation is tinged with eoneeeo— coronation is tinged with sadness for— coronation is tinged with sadness for because our queen sadness for me because our queen is sadness for me because our queen re nor— sadness for me because our queen re nor nere. — sadness for me because our queen re nor nere. ano— sadness for me because our queen is not here. and my— sadness for me because our queen is not here. ' r: is not here. and my heart's torn all the time because news of princess diana and the queen and
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those incredible, unique , those incredible, unique, inspirational human beings that formed part of what we're going to see tomorrow , because they to see tomorrow, because they all have a place in westminster abbey, because william and harry will be thinking of the of the queen, their gran and their mother, who should have been there should have been charles would be thinking of and even camilla will be thinking of diana, sure. do my warm diana, i'm sure. do my warm woroe— diana, i'm sure. do my warm woroe onour— diana, i'm sure. do my warm words about camilla- do my warm words about camilla in my take at words about camilla in my take or ren. — words about camilla in my take or ren. suck— words about camilla in my take at ten. stick in— words about camilla in my take at ten. stick in the— words about camilla in my take at ten. t i t at ten. stick in the craw for you a little, given what she put your your beloved diana through. well mark, listen, we're all older. our lives have changed. sneok— older. our lives have changed. sneok for— older. our lives have changed. speak for yourself,— : our lives have changed. speak for yourself, dear. yes my ire-e— speak for yourself, dear. yes my kne-e enongeo. — speak for yourself, dear. yes my life's changed. i'm— speak for yourself, dear. yes my life's changed. i'm now married to life's changed. i'm now married o o— life's changed. i'm now married o o non— life's changed. i'm now married o o .— life's changed. i'm now married o o . rwe— life's changed. i'm now married to a man. i've moved life's changed. i'm now married to a man . i've moved forward. to a man. i've moved forward. rwe— to a man. i've moved forward. he moved— to a man. i've moved forward. i've moved forward. and so has one— i've moved forward. and so has one rnnee— i've moved forward. and so has one prince of— i've moved forward. and so has the prince of wales. and conrkko. — the prince of wales. and camilla. they've moved forward. ano— camilla. they've moved forward. one we— camilla. they've moved forward. one we nove— camilla. they've moved forward. and we have to— camilla. they've moved forward. and we have to accept the fact onoo— and we have to accept the fact no one— and we have to accept the fact that time marches— and we have to accept the fact that time marches on. we can't forger— that time marches on. we can't rorger wnor— that time marches on. we can't forget what happened in the noer. — forget what happened in the goer. ano— forget what happened in the goer. no r— forget what happened in the past. and i can't because i was onee— past. and i can't because i was rnere. nur— past. and i can't because i was rnere. our r— past. and i can't because i was there. but i wish— past. and i can't because i was there. but i wish them well . i there. but i wish them well. i go,— there. but i wish them well. i oo, noneerky. — there. but i wish them well. i do, honestly. and— there. but i wish them well. i
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do, honestly. and diana would wren— do, honestly. and diana would wren onen— do, honestly. and diana would wish them well. _ do, honestly. and diana would wish them well. she wouldn't reor— wish them well. she wouldn't neor o— wish them well. she wouldn't neor o grudge— wish them well. she wouldn't bear a grudge at— wish them well. she wouldn't bear a grudge at all. she would nove— bear a grudge at all. she would nowe noweo— bear a grudge at all. she would have moved on— bear a grudge at all. she would have moved on in— bear a grudge at all. she would have moved on in her life. so you— have moved on in her life. so you eee— have moved on in her life. so you for— have moved on in her life. so you for me— have moved on in her life. so you for me ,— have moved on in her life. so you see, for me , it's crossing a you see, for me, it's crossing a nudge.— you see, for me, it's crossing a nudge. ure— you see, for me, it's crossing a bridge. we have— you see, for me, it's crossing a bridge. we have to— you see, for me, it's crossing a bridge. we have to cross that uroge— bridge. we have to cross that bridge wrrn— bridge. we have to cross that bridge with king— bridge. we have to cross that bridge with king charles and queen— bridge with king charles and queen camilla.— bridge with king charles and queen camilla. like it or not, we nove— queen camilla. like it or not, we nowe ro. — queen camilla. like it or not, we have to. because on the other eree— we have to. because on the other eroe or— we have to. because on the other eroe of nor— we have to. because on the other side of that bridge— we have to. because on the other side of that bridge is waiting. krne— side of that bridge is waiting. king william— side of that bridge is waiting. king william and queen catherine . ano— king william and queen catherine . ano onen— king william and queen catherine . ano rnen we— king william and queen catherine . and then we can— king william and queen catherine . and then we can really eekenrore— . and then we can really celebrate .— . and then we can really celebrate . notice the slight celebrate. notice the slight nure— celebrate. notice the slight mute atmosphere here. there's exerrenenr— mute atmosphere here. there's excitement in— mute atmosphere here. there's excitement in the— mute atmosphere here. there's excitement in the i'll. but if wrkuon — excitement in the i'll. but if william and— excitement in the i'll. but if william and kate were being owned— william and kate were being crowned tomorrow , they'd be crowned tomorrow, they'd be oonerng — crowned tomorrow, they'd be oonerng rn— crowned tomorrow, they'd be dancing in the— crowned tomorrow, they'd be dancing in the streets . there'd dancing in the streets. there'd be dancing in the streets. there'd ne nonree— dancing in the streets. there'd be parties everywhere. that's uue— be parties everywhere. that's true because _ be parties everywhere. that's true because i— be parties everywhere. that's true because i think part of nnrorn— true because i think part of nnrorn re— true because i think part of britain is thinking, well, rney-re— britain is thinking, well, rney-re o— britain is thinking, well, they're a little bit old and rney-re— they're a little bit old and rney-re nor— they're a little bit old and they're not going to be there for very— they're not going to be there for very kong— they're not going to be there for very long. actually what ne-e— for very long. actually what ne-e oorng— for very long. actually what ne-e oorng re— for very long. actually what he's doing is giving william une— he's doing is giving william rrne ro— he's doing is giving william one o grow— he's doing is giving william time to grow his family. so that cnorkee— time to grow his family. so that once charles hands over the rrene— once charles hands over the ro— once charles hands over the reins to william,— once charles hands over the reins to william, he's able to oeeno— reins to william, he's able to oeeno rne— reins to william, he's able to ascend the throne with a grown
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ronrky— ascend the throne with a grown ronrky ono— ascend the throne with a grown family and have— ascend the throne with a grown family and have time to dedicate to family and have time to dedicate ro rne— family and have time to dedicate ro rne roke— family and have time to dedicate ro rne roke . — family and have time to dedicate to the role . so— family and have time to dedicate to the role . so do— family and have time to dedicate to the role . r:rzr to the role. so do you anticipate that charles could hand over the reins to william when he's older? i think it's very possible that maybe in ten years time much the same as european royal families who are handing over to their their heirs. i would think that cnorkee— heirs. i would think that charles, in— heirs. i would think that charles, in ten- i would think that charles, in ten years time will be charles, in ten years time will re quire— charles, in ten years time will re quire org.— charles, in ten years time will be quite old. and— charles, in ten years time will be quite old. and who knows , uh, be quite old. and who knows, uh, in n— be quite old. and who knows, uh, in in good— be quite old. and who knows, uh, in in good health.— be quite old. and who knows, uh, in in good health. i— be quite old. and who knows, uh, in in good health. i mean, rney-re— in in good health. i mean, rney-re noon— in in good health. i mean, they're both in— in in good health. i mean, they're both in their 70s. they wru— they're both in their 70s. they wru ne— they're both in their 70s. they wru ne rn— they're both in their 70s. they will be in their— they're both in their 70s. they will be in their 80s wouldn't rney— will be in their 80s wouldn't rney irke— will be in their 80s wouldn't rney krke o— will be in their 80s wouldn't they like a retirement like rnnee— they like a retirement like prince philip— they like a retirement like prince philip had a retirement. so prince philip had a retirement. so onen— prince philip had a retirement. so then william— prince philip had a retirement. so then william will be capable of oeruouy— so then william will be capable of actually ruling— so then william will be capable of actually ruling the country . of actually ruling the country. ano— of actually ruling the country. and won-r— of actually ruling the country. and won-r rr— of actually ruling the country. and won't it be— of actually ruling the country. and won't it be a— of actually ruling the country. and won't it be a wonderful ergnr— and won't it be a wonderful ergnr 7— and won't it be a wonderful ergnr e r— and won't it be a wonderful ergnr e r none— and won't it be a wonderful sight ? i hope i— and won't it be a wonderful sight ? i hope i live and won't it be a wonderful sight? i hope i live long enough to sight? i hope i live long enough ro eee— sight? i hope i live long enough ro king— sight? i hope i live long enough to see king william , queen to see king william, queen cornerrne,— to see king william, queen catherine, diana's son on the rnrone— catherine, diana's son on the rnrone wrrn— catherine, diana's son on the throne with his— catherine, diana's son on the throne with his beautiful wife wron— throne with his beautiful wife wrrn onoo— throne with his beautiful wife with that ring— throne with his beautiful wife with that ring on a queen's ringer— with that ring on a queen's rrnger .— with that ring on a queen's rrnger . kee. — with that ring on a queen's finger. yes. can- with that ring on a queen's finger . yes. cr?" with that ring on a queen's finger. yes. cr?" finger. yes. can i ask a question? oh, my goodness. we can feel you overflowing- : 7 o" g: we can feel you overflowing and
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unoererono— can feel you overflowing and understand me. _ can feel you overflowing and understand me. 7 understand me. is this okay? is this okay? so i want to know because i love that you said that diana would be forgiving not seeking vengeance. is there any of that feels like any part of you that feels like harry and meghan feel like they are a game that diana are continuing a game that diana started with what they're doing right? oh, really? it's very right? oh, really? it's a very different oh, god, different game. oh, my god, harry different game. oh, my god, norry ono— different game. oh, my god, harry and meghan's- r: ”ritri 3 oh, my god, harry and meghan's is harry and meghan's game is a very— harry and meghan's game is a very-gone— harry and meghan's game is a very-gone ro- harry and meghan's game is a very-game to hear. very different game to hear neouee— very different game to hear neouee you— very different game to hear because you see, harry's ononooneo— because you see, harry's abandoned his- because you see, harry's abandoned his country, abandoned his abandoned his country, abandoned nre roniy— abandoned his country, abandoned his family, abandoned his duty. kee— his family, abandoned his duty. kee. mono— his family, abandoned his duty. yes. diana was— his family, abandoned his duty. yes. diana was very proud of her noye— yes. diana was very proud of her noye being— yes. diana was very proud of her noye nerng proud— yes. diana was very proud of her boys being proud of the monarchy , proud— boys being proud of the monarchy , proud-rne— boys being proud of the monarchy , proud the monarchy, proud , proud of the monarchy, proud of , proud of the monarchy, proud or-nerng— , proud of the monarchy, proud or-nerng royok- , proud of the monarchy, proud of being royal princes. of her boys being royal princes. ano— of her boys being royal princes. ano-okwoye— of her boys being royal princes. and always thought and she always thought it was worry-e— and she always thought it was norry-e oury— and she always thought it was norry-e oury ro— and she always thought it was harry's duty to stand by his nrorner— harry's duty to stand by his nrorner oe— harry's duty to stand by his brother as he— harry's duty to stand by his brother as he ascended the rnrone— brother as he ascended the rnrone ono— brother as he ascended the throne and to— brother as he ascended the throne and to be there for him as throne and to be there for him oe nie— throne and to be there for him as his wingman_ throne and to be there for him as his wingman .— throne and to be there for him as his wingman . that's not as his wingman. that's not noggenrng— as his wingman. that's not happening quite the reverse is noggenrng.— happening quite the reverse is noggenrng. ano— happening quite the reverse is happening. and diana would be oggokkeo— happening. and diana would be oppokkeo or— happening. and diana would be oppokkeo or rne— happening. and diana would be appalled at the fact that rnere-e— appalled at the fact that there's this— appalled at the fact that there's this huge rift growing nerween— there's this huge rift growing between the _ there's this huge rift growing between the two boys. incidentally- between the two boys. incidentally harry isn't going to incidentally harry isn't going o e— incidentally harry isn't going to see anything— incidentally harry isn't going to see anything of his family or his to see anything of his family or he nrorner— to see anything of his family or his brother or— to see anything of his family or his brother or his— to see anything of his family or his brother or his father at the coronorron— his brother or his father at the coronation that— his brother or his father at the coronation that isn't the time or rne— coronation that isn't the time or one groce— coronation that isn't the time or the place. right? so there's
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no. or the place. right? so there's no— or the place. right? so there's no you— or the place. right? so there's no. do you think— or the place. right? so there's no. do you think harry should be errekrng— no. do you think harry should be sticking around— no. do you think harry should be sticking around for— no. do you think harry should be sticking around for a couple of eonowrenee— sticking around for a couple of sandwiches and— sticking around for a couple of sandwiches and a— sticking around for a couple of sandwiches and a pint after the coronorrone — sandwiches and a pint after the coronation? 7 well, he coronation? tomorrow? well, he oton-r— coronation? tomorrow? well, he oton-oli— coronation? tomorrow? well, he oron-rlrr oner— didn't do it after his grandmother's platinum jubilee. he grandmother's platinum jubilee. ne—nkone— grandmother's platinum jubilee. ne—nkone ono- grandmother's platinum jubilee. he plane and gone he was on the plane and gone none— he was on the plane and gone none before— he was on the plane and gone home before she'd even left the nokeony. — home before she'd even left the nokeonylwnor— home before she'd even left the balcony. what about that balcony. but what about that eouewek — balcony. but what about that exclusive here _ balcony. but what about that exclusive here on mark dolan ronrgnr— exclusive here on mark dolan ronrgnr fron— exclusive here on mark dolan tonight from paul burrell, a man wno— tonight from paul burrell, a man wno-rnor— tonight from paul burrell, a man wno-rnor rr-e— tonight from paul burrell, a man who-that it's just- who knows that it's just poeernke— who knows that it's just possible that- who knows that it's just possible that king charles in a oeeooee— possible that king charles in a decades time— possible that king charles in a decades time could hand over the nonoreny—ro- decades time could hand over the monarchy to william. monarchy the crown to william. do monarchy the crown to william. no you— monarchy the crown to william. no you eee— monarchy the crown to william. no you onoo— monarchy the crown to william. do you see that happening- monarchy the crown to william. do you see that happening in your reaction? in my reaction is youe— your reaction? in my reaction is you eo ngnr— your reaction? in my reaction is you're so right that— , t 7 in my reaction is you're so right that that that oeonke— you're so right that that that peopke ore— you're so right that that that people are excited about the rurure— people are excited about the rurure or— people are excited about the future of the— people are excited about the future of the monarchy being wrkuon — future of the monarchy being william and— future of the monarchy being william and catherine. and i rnrnk— william and catherine. and i onrnk youe— william and catherine. and i think you're seeing a lot of euggon— think you're seeing a lot of euggon ror— think you're seeing a lot of support for charles and camilla. rnor-e— support for charles and camilla. rnor-e eokeky— support for charles and camilla. that's solely based on the fact onoo— that's solely based on the fact rnor—eguokei that charles is success equals wrkuon — that charles is success equals william success.— that charles is success equals william success. and that's what we won— william success. and that's what we won .— william success. and that's what we want . that's— william success. and that's what we want . that's what we're we want. that's what we're kookrng— we want. that's what we're kookrng-ro. - we want. that's what we're looking-to. the- we want. that's what we're- looking-to. the general looking forward to. the general reekrng— looking forward to. the general reekrnglrne— looking forward to. the general feeling the country. �*fh�*ri tr?i feeling in the country. we are going— feeling in the country. we are going ro— feeling in the country. we are going ro woe— feeling in the country. we are going to wave our— feeling in the country. we are going to wave our flags tomorrow because for because we're waving them for our because we are we are our king because we are we are monarchists, we're royalists . we monarchists, we're royalists. we want family to survive want the royal family to survive . i think the character comes secondary, you know, charles
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well, will he make a good monarch? has he got the right rengeronenre— monarch? has he got the right temperament? is— monarch? has he got the right temperament? is he— trt."7’ has he got the right temperament? is he up to the job? — temperament? is he up to the job? wok.— temperament? is he up to the job? weu. oe— temperament? is he up to the job? well, as the— temperament? is he up to the job? �*fh�*rii 37” rtri temperament? is he up to the job? ti job? well, as the prince of wales , of course, he had his wales, of course, he had his finger pie, the finger in every pie, the environment, family , environment, politics, family, chapel, everything. well, listen, . and as king, he listen, he did. and as king, he will have to be muted because as king, he will not have to have an opinion. but can he be muted? wru— an opinion. but can he be muted? wru ne— an opinion. but can he be muted? wru ne noko— an opinion. but can he be muted? will he hold it— an opinion. but can he be muted? will he hold it in?— an opinion. but can he be muted? will he hold it in? _ i but can he be muted? will he hold it in? c? will he hold it in? camilla is one— will he hold it in? camilla is one one— will he hold it in? camilla is the one to do that. and i truly believe that she is the only person that can tell him no , no, person that can tell him no, no, everybody else in his world says yes. yes, camilla doesn't care because this is the man she loves and he loves her. do you like charles is a good, kind man . he's a good kind , genuine man. . he's a good kind, genuine man. i think he's trying to straddle one foot in tradition and one foot in modernity . and that's foot in modernity. and that's a tightrope. and he's bound to come a cropper at times. did he treat you well when you served as diana's butler ? yes, he did.
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as diana's butler? yes, he did. he found me a nice house on the highgrove estate where i could live with my family and my children . then he looked after children. then he looked after me . but it came to a sticky end me. but it came to a sticky end because i was serving two mistresses right . because i was serving two mistresses right. diana left because i was serving two mistresses right . diana left the mistresses right. diana left the front door of highgrove on a sunday afternoon, and mrs. parker bowles came in the back door at the same time. and you were an man. door at the same time. and you were an _man. and - door at the same time. and you were an-man. and wheni door at the same time. and you. were an-man. and when you were an honest man. and when you oekeo— were an honest man. and when you were asked questions, yes, i was oekeo— were asked questions, yes, i was asked questions. _ were asked questions, yes, i was asked questions. it was erroneou— asked questions. it was difficult for me in difficult for me to be in in that and serve two that place and serve two mistresses master. and mistresses and a master. and eventually the decision was made for me and i came back to london. answering your london. so answering your question, man, remember question, a good man, i remember the day when my little boy, nick, who was only four years old, wandered through the garden . the front door . i'm stood at the front door with of wales waiting with the prince of wales waiting to go on an official engagement in the in black tie, opening the rolls—royce and my little rolls—royce door, and my little boy, prince boy, nick, brushed past prince charles said , oh, you look charles and said, oh, you look smart. prince charles, where are you going? where are you going tonight? and he in the tonight? and he rushed in the front and up the stairs to front door and up the stairs to play front door and up the stairs to play with william and harry and the turned to me the prince turned to me and said, full of character,
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said, he's full of character, isn't on that bombshell, isn't he? and on that bombshell, rwe— isn't he? and on that bombshell, r-we guer— isn't he? and on that bombshell, r-we iuer gor— isn't he? and on that bombshell, r-we iuer gor o— a ri7 and on that bombshell, i've just got a whatsapp from the i've just got a whatsapp from one—rne- i've just got a whatsapp from. one—one enow the boss who's loving the show ono— the boss who's loving the show one noe— the boss who's loving the show one noe eon,— the boss who's loving the show and has said, can— the boss who's loving the show and has said, can you please reoee— and has said, can you please reoee rwe— and has said, can you please tease live coverage on gb news from— tease live coverage on gb news from o— tease live coverage on gb news from o orn— tease live coverage on gb news from 6 am. tomorrow with nigel roroge— from 6 am. tomorrow with nigel roroge rokrng— from 6 am. tomorrow with nigel farage taking over— from 6 am. tomorrow with nigel farage taking over at 10 am. for rne— farage taking over at 10 am. for one oeer— farage taking over at 10 am. for the best coverage on tv and rooro— for the best coverage on tv and rooro ono— for the best coverage on tv and radio and absolutely right. i ogree— radio and absolutely right. i ogree wron— radio and absolutely right. i agree with that. _ radio and absolutely right. i agree with that. coming up next, gor— agree with that. coming up next, gor rne— agree with that. coming up next, we've got the papers with big reoorron— we've got the papers with big reaction .these - we've got the papers with big reaction these two. don't reaction from these two. don't go onywnere— reaction from these two. don't go onywnere .—
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the people's channel. i the people's channel. britain's news . channel welcome- the people's channel. i welcome back to news. channel welcome back to work— news. channel welcome back to work ookon— news. channel welcome back to mark dolan tonight. _ welcome back to mark dolan tonight. and it is a eounroown— mark dolan tonight. and it is a eounroown ro — mark dolan tonight. and it is a countdown to the— mark dolan tonight. and it is a countdown to the coronation eneerok. — countdown to the coronation eoeerok. rr-e— countdown to the coronation special. it's coronation eve. au— special. it's coronation eve. au rne— special. it's coronation eve. all the action _ special. it's coronation eve. all the action tomorrow from 6 niger— all the action tomorrow from 6 am. nigel farage_ all the action tomorrow from 6 am. nigel farage taking over at a.m. nigel farage taking over at 10 a.m. nigel farage taking over at ro orn— a.m. nigel farage taking over at ro so— a.m. nigel farage taking over at 10 am. so excited.— a.m. nigel farage taking over at 10 am. so excited. keep it gb 10 a.m. so excited. keep it gb newe— 10 am. so excited. keep it gb wewe on— 10 am. so excited. keep it gb wewe on rne— 10 am. so excited. keep it gb news on the radio, on tv all day kong— news on the radio, on tv all day kong. ure— news on the radio, on tv all day kong. ore ore— news on the radio, on tv all day kong. we your— news on the radio, on tv all day long. we are your coronation erorron.— long. we are your coronation erorron. ano— long. we are your coronation station. and it's— long. we are your coronation station. and it's exactly 1030, so station. and it's exactly 1030, eo rere— station. and it's exactly 1030, eo ker-e nove— station. and it's exactly 1030, so let's have a— station. and it's exactly 1030, so let's have a look at tomorrow's— so let's have a look at
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tomorrow's front pages and let's get tomorrow's front pages and let's ger eroekrng — tomorrow's front pages and let's get cracking with— tomorrow's front pages and let's get cracking with our first gonreukor— get cracking with our first particular front page. it's the enreee— particular front page. it's the egreee ono— particular front page. it's the express and they— particular front page. it's the express and they lead with the rokkowrng. — express and they lead with the rokkowrng. ure— express and they lead with the following. we flashed this one up. wnor— following. we flashed this one up. wnor o— following. we flashed this one up. what a lovely front page onoo— up. what a lovely front page no re. — up. what a lovely front page no re. doy— up. what a lovely front page that is. day of— up. what a lovely front page that is. day of destiny. and onoo— that is. day of destiny. and no re— that is. day of destiny. and no re guer— that is. day of destiny. and that is just a— that is. day of destiny. and that is just a gorgeous royal rnrone— that is just a gorgeous royal rnrone .— that is just a gorgeous royal rnrone . r— that is just a gorgeous royal throne . i think— that is just a gorgeous royal throne . i think they've got that throne. i think they've got that ngnr— throne. i think they've got that ngnr .— throne. i think they've got that ngnr . a— throne. i think they've got that right . a picture— throne. i think they've got that right . a picture picture says a right. a picture picture says a rnoueono— right. a picture picture says a thousand words. _ right. a picture picture says a thousand words. so next up , thousand words. so next up, rere— thousand words. so next up, ker-e nove— thousand words. so next up, ker-e nowe o— thousand words. so next up, let's have a look— thousand words. so next up, let's have a look at the daily noi— let's have a look at the daily moi ono— let's have a look at the daily mail and the— let's have a look at the daily mail and the daily mail. splash wron— mail and the daily mail. splash wrrn nie— mail and the daily mail. splash wrrn nre ooy— mail and the daily mail. splash with his day of— mail and the daily mail. splash with his day of destiny . there with his day of destiny. there you— with his day of destiny. there you go. — with his day of destiny. there you go. historic— with his day of destiny. there you go. historic souvenir eorrron— you go. historic souvenir edition and— you go. historic souvenir edition and lovely. they've gone old edition and lovely. they've gone oko eonook— edition and lovely. they've gone old school with— edition and lovely. they've gone old school with the— edition and lovely. they've gone old school with the picture of cnorkee— old school with the picture of cnorkee oe— old school with the picture of charles as the _ old school with the picture of charles as the prince of wales . charles as the prince of wales. new— charles as the prince of wales. new un— charles as the prince of wales. new .p, we— charles as the prince of wales. next up, we have— charles as the prince of wales. next up, we have the mirror and the next up, we have the mirror and one minor— next up, we have the mirror and the mirror lead— next up, we have the mirror and the mirror lead with. oh, there you— the mirror lead with. oh, there you go. — the mirror lead with. oh, there you go. wow— the mirror lead with. oh, there you go. now ker— the mirror lead with. oh, there you go. now let me do my little let you go. now let me do my little ker ne— you go. now let me do my little ker ne ger— you go. now let me do my little ker ne ger ny— you go. now let me do my little let me get my reading glasses on. let me get my reading glasses ne— let me get my reading glasses ne wru— let me get my reading glasses on. he will not— let me get my reading glasses on. he will not only wear the crow— on. he will not only wear the crown ne— on. he will not only wear the crown, he will— on. he will not only wear the crown, he will bear the weight of mercy— crown, he will bear the weight or nrerory ono— crown, he will bear the weight of history and the— crown, he will bear the weight of history and the hopes of a norron. — of history and the hopes of a norron. wo— of history and the hopes of a nation. no pressure . give the nation. no pressure. give the guy— nation. no pressure. give the guy a_ nation. no pressure. give the guy o oreok.— nation. no pressure. give the guy a break. he's— nation. no pressure. give the guy a break. he's barely started . rr-e— guy a break. he's barely started . we once— guy a break. he's barely started . it's almost like— guy a break. he's barely started . it's almost like being a
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greener— . it's almost like being a presenter on— . it's almost like being a presenter on gb news. who's next up, we— presenter on gb news. who's next .p, we nove— presenter on gb news. who's next up. we nowe rne— presenter on gb news. who's next up, we have the sun— presenter on gb news. who's next up, we have the sun newspaper. oh up, we have the sun newspaper. on on— up, we have the sun newspaper. on on, r— up, we have the sun newspaper. on on, r rowe— up, we have the sun newspaper. oh oh, i love this— up, we have the sun newspaper. oh oh, i love this one. this is geoc— oh oh, i love this one. this is greor. roge— oh oh, i love this one. this is great. taps into— oh oh, i love this one. this is great. taps into our earlier conversation, _ great. taps into our earlier conversation, which we're going to conversation, which we're going ro pick— conversation, which we're going ro pick up— conversation, which we're going ro pick up wrrn— conversation, which we're going to pick up with linda jubilee ono— to pick up with linda jubilee ono wron— to pick up with linda jubilee and with kinsey— to pick up with linda jubilee and with kinsey schofield, his ono— and with kinsey schofield, his one nere— and with kinsey schofield, his one nere re. — and with kinsey schofield, his and hers is. there— and with kinsey schofield, his and hers is. there you go . today and hers is. there you go. today nnrorn— and hers is. there you go. today nnrorn wru— and hers is. there you go. today britain will see— and hers is. there you go. today britain will see in— and hers is. there you go. today britain will see in the coronation— britain will see in the coronation in style with crowns for corn— coronation in style with crowns for noon rne— coronation in style with crowns for both the king— coronation in style with crowns for both the king and the queen i'm for both the king and the queen in oeeunrng— for both the king and the queen i'm assuming those are the crowns and not— i'm assuming those are the crowns and not some kind of reoero— crowns and not some kind of reoero oner— crowns and not some kind of reader offer for— crowns and not some kind of reader offer for 12.99. but i rnrnk— reader offer for 12.99. but i onrnk rr-e— reader offer for 12.99. but i think it's really— reader offer for 12.99. but i think it's really nice that the rnere— think it's really nice that the rnere re— think it's really nice that the sun there is celebrated the coupe— sun there is celebrated the couple because— sun there is celebrated the couple because it is the king ono— couple because it is the king on rne— couple because it is the king and the queen— couple because it is the king and the queen that will enjoy onen— and the queen that will enjoy their coronation— and the queen that will enjoy their coronation tomorrow. next up, their coronation tomorrow. next uglrekegronn— their coronation tomorrow. next uglrekegronn .— their coronation tomorrow. next up, telegraph . they lead up, the telegraph. they lead wron— up, the telegraph. they lead with .following- up, the telegraph. they lead with .following .- up, the telegraph. they lead with following . i come not with the following. i come not to with the following. i come not ro ne— with the following. i come not ro ne eewee— with the following. i come not ro ne eeweo ,— with the following. i come not to be served , but— with the following. i come not to be served , but to serve, says to be served, but to serve, says krng. — to be served, but to serve, says our new king. or— to be served, but to serve, says our new king. or will say tomorrow . the- our new king. or will say tomorrow . the times next the tomorrow. the times next the krnge— tomorrow. the times next the krnge ooy— tomorrow. the times next the krnge ooy or— tomorrow. the times next the kings day of destiny. tomorrow. the times next the kings day of destiny . they've kings day of destiny. they've got kings day of destiny. they've gor oeroie— kings day of destiny. they've got details of— kings day of destiny. they've got details of the order of eerwce — got details of the order of service with _ got details of the order of service with coverage that will expone— service with coverage that will expono ocoee— service with coverage that will expand across the _ service with coverage that will expand across the next few days wrrn—
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expand across the next few days win on— expand across the next few days win on ergnr— expand across the next few days with an eight page official guide— with an eight page official guide ro— with an eight page official guide ro rne— with an eight page official guide to the coronation, all the noncre— guide to the coronation, all the gogere wru— guide to the coronation, all the gogere wru ne— guide to the coronation, all the papers will be doing coronation enecroke— papers will be doing coronation eoecroke ono— papers will be doing coronation specials and many will be wise to specials and many will be wise ro keen— specials and many will be wise ro keep rnoee— specials and many will be wise to keep those copies because rney— to keep those copies because rney ore— to keep those copies because rney going— to keep those copies because they are going to— to keep those copies because they are going to be historic onerocre— they are going to be historic onerocre or— they are going to be historic artefacts at some point . okay, artefacts at some point. okay, rere— artefacts at some point. okay, ker-e nove— artefacts at some point. okay, ker-e nowe o— artefacts at some point. okay, let's have a look— artefacts at some point. okay, let's have a look at the eye weekend— let's have a look at the eye weekend now— let's have a look at the eye weekend now and charles iii in ponie— weekend now and charles iii in bone ro— weekend now and charles iii in battle to secure— weekend now and charles iii in battle to secure the future of rne— battle to secure the future of one nonorcny— battle to secure the future of the monarchy and will debate wron— the monarchy and will debate win my— the monarchy and will debate with my brilliant— the monarchy and will debate with my brilliant guests whether that with my brilliant guests whether rnor con— with my brilliant guests whether rnor pe— with my brilliant guests whether that can be done— with my brilliant guests whether that can be done .— with my brilliant guests whether that can be done . the guardian that can be done. the guardian oh that can be done. the guardian on oeor— that can be done. the guardian oh dear they've— that can be done. the guardian oh dear they've they've given the coronation— oh dear they've they've given the coronation a— oh dear they've they've given the coronation a bit of a wide penn— the coronation a bit of a wide penn. r— the coronation a bit of a wide penn. r neon— the coronation a bit of a wide berth. i mean there's a picture of berth. i mean there's a picture or rne— berth. i mean there's a picture or one king— berth. i mean there's a picture of the king looking furious at the of the king looking furious at one rop— of the king looking furious at one rop or— of the king looking furious at one rop of o— of the king looking furious at the top of a top— of the king looking furious at the top of a top of the paper coronorron— the top of a top of the paper coronation of— the top of a top of the paper coronation of king charles. but onen— coronation of king charles. but rnerr morn— coronation of king charles. but their main focus— coronation of king charles. but their main focus is— coronation of king charles. but their main focus is the plight of-conservatives- their main focus is the plight of conservatives you of the conservatives you remember them. do you remember the remember them. do you remember one-pony— remember them. do you remember the-party-crushing- the tory party well, crushing reeukre— the tory party well, crushing reeukre for— the tory party well, crushing results for the _ the tory party well, crushing results for the tories say the cuororon.— results for the tories say the cuororon. r— results for the tories say the guardian. i will— results for the tories say the guardian. i will raise that pokrrrcok— guardian. i will raise that political issue— guardian. i will raise that political issue with linda wnier— political issue with linda whilst we've _ political issue with linda whilst we've got her esteemed iournouer— whilst we've got her esteemed journalist that— whilst we've got her esteemed journalist that she is and last pur— journalist that she is and last our nor— journalist that she is and last but not least,— journalist that she is and last but not least, for— journalist that she is and last but not least, for now, the pony— but not least, for now, the pony soon— but not least, for now, the daily star. the— but not least, for now, the daily star. the king's coronation- daily star. the king's coronation sausages , irish. this coronation sausages, irish. this erory— coronation sausages, irish. this erory rokee— coronation sausages, irish. this story takes some— coronation sausages, irish. this story takes some explaining rnen— story takes some explaining irish wolfhound_ story takes some explaining irish wolfhound named seamus ,
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irish wolfhound named seamus, wnrcn— irish wolfhound named seamus, wnrcn re— irish wolfhound named seamus, wnrcn re rne— irish wolfhound named seamus, which is the name— irish wolfhound named seamus, which is the name of my father, erore— which is the name of my father, erore rn— which is the name of my father, erore in o— which is the name of my father, stars in a historic— which is the name of my father, stars in a historic parade up rne— stars in a historic parade up one nou— stars in a historic parade up one now .— stars in a historic parade up the mall. 130— stars in a historic parade up the mall. 130 million pints of peer— the mall. 130 million pints of peer wru— the mall. 130 million pints of peer wru pe— the mall. 130 million pints of beer will be drunk as a three day— beer will be drunk as a three ooy pegrne— beer will be drunk as a three ooy pegrne. pur— beer will be drunk as a three day begins, but thousands of rune— day begins, but thousands of one per— day begins, but thousands of one per orr— day begins, but thousands of brits jet off abroad to beat coronorron— brits jet off abroad to beat coronation fever. and those are your— coronation fever. and those are your nonr— coronation fever. and those are your rronr pogee. — coronation fever. and those are your front pages. let's bring in my wonoenuk— your front pages. let's bring in my wonderful guests. we have the oueen— my wonderful guests. we have the oueen or— my wonderful guests. we have the oueen or ue— my wonderful guests. we have the queen of us showbiz andrew doyle reponrng.— queen of us showbiz andrew doyle reponrng. krneey— queen of us showbiz andrew doyle reporting. kinsey schofield. wornouy— reporting. kinsey schofield. normally down the line from nokkywooo,— normally down the line from hollywood, california. but today wron— hollywood, california. but today wrrn ue— hollywood, california. but today wrrn ue or— hollywood, california. but today with us at the— hollywood, california. but today with us at the palace and the ooyen— with us at the palace and the ooyen or— with us at the palace and the doyen of journalism in this county,— doyen of journalism in this country, someone that's covered the country, someone that's covered one royok— country, someone that's covered one royok peon— country, someone that's covered the royal beat. but— country, someone that's covered the royal beat. but many other peore— the royal beat. but many other peore oe— the royal beat. but many other beats as well. _ the royal beat. but many other beats as well. it's— the royal beat. but many other beats as well. it's linda puree.— beats as well. it's linda jubilee. hi,— beats as well. it's linda jubilee. hi, linda. hi, mark. now— jubilee. hi, linda. hi, mark. now-you— jubilee. hi, linda. hi, mark. now-you c— jubilee. hi, linda. hi, mark. how you ? i'm very well. you how are you? i'm very well. you know, seamus, it's just come to me a sudden. think me all of a sudden. i think seamus mascot for the seamus is the mascot for the irish guards. oh, i see. i think so. that's why he's there. so. and that's why he's there. i was trying to work out how they'd come up with that front page, and now i see what the general link might be. was the daily star with an— general link might be. was the daily star with an irish- daily star with an irish wolfhound. _ daily star with an irish wolfhound. king's daily star with an irish- wolfhound. .king's coronation wolfhound. the king's coronation sausages is lovely stuff. but rne— sausages is lovely stuff. but even the getting into the even the star getting into the epin— even the star getting into the eprnr neg, — even the star getting into the spirit free, historic king cnorkee— spirit free, historic king
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charles pull— spirit free, historic king charles pull out inside . charles pull out inside. that's cyprcok— charles pull out inside. that's cyprcok econ.— charles pull out inside. that's cyprcok econ. r— charles pull out inside. that's typical stuff. i think the daily star is on a roll. actually remember, it was the daily star that did the lettuce, which had the longest shelf life. liz truss, all the lettuce. i think it was the star. well, it was we enoukon-r— it was the star. well, it was we enoukon-r eoy— it was the star. well, it was we shouldn't say king— a well, it was we shouldn't say king charles too kouoky— shouldn't say king charles too loudly because— shouldn't say king charles too loudly because the palace is puer— loudly because the palace is we were— loudly because the palace is just there listening. / just there listening. yeah, but but universally press but universally positive press because tomorrow fleet street will be getting behind this all the way. i think they're poekke— the way. i think they're positive, but— the way. i think they're positive, but i- i think they're positive, but i don't think were— positive, but i don't think once ore— positive, but i don't think once o— positive, but i don't think there are a lot- positive, but i don't think there are a lot of these front pages— there are a lot of these front pogee-rconrc,— there are a lot of these front pogee-rconrc,-r| there are a lot of these fronti pages-iconic,-1 or pages are iconic, really. 1 or 2. rnere-e— pages are iconic, really. 1 or 2. there'slfantastic- pages are iconic, really. 1 or 2. there's fantastic picture 2. there's a fantastic picture of the royal throne with the scottish stone that goes underneath on the front page. i think of the express, and that's a really collector's think of the express, and that's a buteally collector's think of the express, and that's a butealthe ollector's think of the express, and that's a butealthe mainor's think of the express, and that's a butealthe main i"s think of the express, and that's a butealthe main i think item. but in the main i think they're a little bit anodyne. these front pages. don't think these front pages. i don't think that iconic at all. that they're iconic at all. they're real collector's they're not real collector's items. better items. i'm hoping for better sunday morning. well, you'll be too sunday morning. well, you'll be roo young— sunday morning. well, you'll be roo young ro— sunday morning. well, you'll be too young to remember- r:? 3 well, you'll be too young to remember the 1977 oueene wnor— too young to remember the 1977 queen's. what was— too young to remember the 1977 queen's. what was that, silver iuprkee— queen's. what was that, silver jubilee celebration? r:rzr jubilee celebration? i do remember it— jubilee celebration? i do remember it quite clearly so. but those royal souvenirs, rney-re— but those royal souvenirs, rney-re nor—
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but those royal souvenirs, they're not what they were back in one — they're not what they were back in one ooy— they're not what they were back in the day when— they're not what they were back in the day when you were the paper— in the day when you were the pope wouko— in the day when you were the pope wouko pe— in the day when you were the paper would be like a book, woukon-r— paper would be like a book, wouldn't it? _ paper would be like a book, wouldn't it? t/rir?“ t/rir?“ wouldn't it? yeah. yeah, absolutely. and the beautiful colour and fantastic colour supplements and fantastic photographs from royal photographers like arthur edwards. i mean, really, really extraordinary memorabilia , extraordinary memorabilia, although i think they've been churning it out from the potteries in in the midlands in the country . they've been the country. they've been turning up plates and mugs and all manner of goodies. so yeah, i think it's going okay. charles is he going to be i think it's going okay. - charles is he going to be any good— charles is he going to be any good oe— charles is he going to be any good oe krnge — charles is he going to be any good as king? i— charles is he going to be any good as king? grin g good as king? i think he's going to be really, really good. and because he's been practising a long time , as his sister said long time, as his sister said this week , i think he will be this week, i think he will be especially good because of the effect of camilla. i think that's why the queen finally not gave in. but finally supported the fact that she could be queen because of the way she would influence charles and the way he the way he kind of ruled the country , because she is a very country, because she is a very calming effect on him. they clearly have a very, very close relationship. i mean , in
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relationship. i mean, in a sense, their relationship is one of the great love stories of the 20th century. actually arnie. so i think that he will be a good king because of her. and i think that at least he will be someone who can actually gain traction with gen z and the millennials because he cares about the environment . because he cares about the environment. but because he cares about the environment . but really, the environment. but really, the question is how far will he try to intervene in politics? and i've got no doubt that he will. i've got no doubt that he will. i don't think he'll stay clear of politics. this is a perennial concern for many,— ts this is a perennial concern for many, many of my ono— concern for many, many of my viewers and listeners, a very org— viewers and listeners, a very big concen— viewers and listeners, a very big concern who— viewers and listeners, a very big concern who see charles as eon— big concern who see charles as eonlergneo— big concern who see charles as eonlergneo up— big concern who see charles as sort-signed up to— big concern who see charles as sort signed up to the net sort of signed up to the net ogenoo— sort of signed up to the net zero agenda that he is in the pocker— zero agenda that he is in the pocker or— zero agenda that he is in the pocker or one — zero agenda that he is in the pocket of the economic pocket of the world economic rorurn — pocket of the world economic rorurn r— pocket of the world economic forum. i-know- pocket of the world economic forum. i-know if- pocket of the world economic forum. i know if any of forum. i don't know if any of more— forum. i don't know if any of more he, — forum. i don't know if any of that's true, but— forum. i don't know if any of that's true, but the that's true, but it's the impression— that's true, but it's the- impression _that impression many have that cnorkee— impression many have that charles-the— impression many have that charles .the .of- impression many have that charles the of global, charles is the sort of global, gkopok— charles is the sort of global, global corporate— charles is the sort of global, global corporate figure. kinsey but global corporate figure. kinsey nuc wouko— global corporate figure. kinsey but would that— global corporate figure. kinsey but would that attract- global corporate figure. kinsey but would that attract the- but would that attract the younger demo? oh, i think so, yeon— younger demo? oh, i think so, yeon, pecouee— younger demo? oh, i think so, yeah, because they're- :drit :7 oh, i think so, yeah, because they're all really concerned - green - yeah, because they're all really concerned green agenda concerned about the green agenda and concerned about the green agenda ono eveonery— concerned about the green agenda and everyone needs— concerned about the green agenda and everyone needs i think the younger— and everyone needs i think the younger vore— and everyone needs i think the younger voter, the _
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and everyone needs i think the younger voter, the younger constituent, _ younger voter, the younger constituent, if— younger voter, the younger constituent, if you like, and wore— constituent, if you like, and that's where _ constituent, if you like, and that's where they're polling negonveky. — that's where they're polling negatively. that's where they're poking— negatively. that's where they're polling negatively. yeah. i whor— polling negatively. yeah. i mean, what are— polling negatively. yeah. i mean, what are your- polling negatively. yeah. i mean, what are your feelings about the future of the monarchy under charles? can he shore up support? i think he i think he has work quite hard to do has to work quite hard to do that. ithink has to work quite hard to do that. i think that william will be o— that. i think that william will be o greor— that. i think that william will be o greor king— i think that william will be a great king and he has a greor— be a great king and he has a greor wire.— be a great king and he has a great wife. but— be a great king and he has a great wife. but we've kind of got— great wife. but we've kind of gor ro— great wife. but we've kind of gor ro ger— great wife. but we've kind of gor ro ger ro— great wife. but we've kind of got to get to that point across one— got to get to that point across one reign— got to get to that point across this reign with— got to get to that point across this reign with king charles. ano— this reign with king charles. no r— this reign with king charles. no r oon-r— this reign with king charles. and i don't think it's a very straightforward— and i don't think it's a very straightforward thing at all pecouee— straightforward thing at all because and— straightforward thing at all because and in many ways, that's why— because and in many ways, that's wny ne-e— because and in many ways, that's why he's slimmed— because and in many ways, that's why he's slimmed down the actual eervrce— why he's slimmed down the actual eervrce rn— why he's slimmed down the actual eervrce rn rne— why he's slimmed down the actual service in the abbey, because rne— service in the abbey, because one wnoke— service in the abbey, because this whole thing— service in the abbey, because this whole thing is set against a this whole thing is set against o reouy— this whole thing is set against a really difficult— this whole thing is set against a really difficult economic ckrnore— a really difficult economic climate with— a really difficult economic climate with inflation that enu— climate with inflation that still hasn't— climate with inflation that still hasn't been sorted. and we've seen the— still hasn't been sorted. and we've seen the conservatives nove— we've seen the conservatives nove no— we've seen the conservatives nove roen— we've seen the conservatives have now lost, i— we've seen the conservatives have now lost, i think, more rnon— have now lost, i think, more rnon o— have now lost, i think, more than a thousand— have now lost, i think, more than a thousand seats in the kocok— than a thousand seats in the local election.— than a thousand seats in the local election. now whether you vore — local election. now whether you vore ken— local election. now whether you vore ken or— local election. now whether you vote left or whether you vote ngnr— vote left or whether you vote ngnr ,— vote left or whether you vote ngnr , onoo— vote left or whether you vote right , that kind _ vote left or whether you vote right , that kind of political right, that kind of political rurnork— right, that kind of political rurnork re— right, that kind of political turmoil is still— right, that kind of political turmoil is still very difficult for turmoil is still very difficult ror rne— turmoil is still very difficult for the country— turmoil is still very difficult for the country to deal with. rock.— for the country to deal with. well, indeed.— for the country to deal with. well, indeed. and _ for the country to deal with. well, indeed. and i- for the country to deal with. well, indeed. and i anticipate at the next election i've long said that i think sunak is
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underestimated. i know that he's had an absolute nosebleed more than a nosebleed, borderline decapitation yesterday . but i decapitation yesterday. but i still think that in our increasingly presidential system , i think when it comes to next yean , i think when it comes to next year, if it's a choice between keir starmer or rishi sunak running the country, i think the support will go back to the tories to a degree. but maybe not so no, not decisively. so no, i couldn't be. there could be a hung parliament. yeah, smart hung parliament. yeah, the smart money that. i would money would be on that. i would say that. at which point the king have king could potentially have a role. yeah, he will be role. yeah yeah, he will be rnpononr— role. yeah yeah, he will be important because- t/rir?“ yeah, he will be important because of the kind of rkurorry— important because of the kind of fluidity-situation- important because of the kind of fluidity-situation . - important because of the kind of fluidity situation . , fluidity of the situation. keir scorner— fluidity of the situation. keir starmer-turn- fluidity of the situation. keir starmer-turn up- fluidity of the situation. keir starmer-turn up at. fluidity of the situation. keir starmer turn up at the starmer might turn up at the palace and say, look, i haven't really got the numbers, boss. no, saying, no, no. he will be saying, can you let me. you let me have you let me. can you let me have a government, please? because one-oeronrenrng- a government, please? because one-astonishing things. one of the astonishing things opour— one of the astonishing things occur—rne- about the results in the local ekecrrone— about the results in the local elections-i've— about the results in the local elections i've been elections and i've been krerenrng— elections and i've been listening to— elections and i've been listening to them since 4:00 rne— listening to them since 4:00 this-because- listening to them since 4:00. this-because .just this morning because i've just coukon-r—yourl this morning because i've just couronr—yourl this morning because i've just cou|on the _your. this morning because i've just cou|on the radio. your this morning because i've just cou|on the radio. know ur this morning because i've just cou|on the radio. know i'm life on the radio. i know i'm a eoo— life on the radio. i know i'm a sad woman , but— life on the radio. i know i'm a sad woman , but end of the sad woman, but at the end of the day ,— sad woman, but at the end of the ooy , rr— sad woman, but at the end of the ooy , n ken-r— sad woman, but at the end of the day , it isn't-that— sad woman, but at the end of the day , it isn't that the day, it isn't just that the kopour— day, it isn't just that the labour gains— day, it isn't just that the labour gains ,- day, it isn't just that the labour gains , it's the lib dem labour gains, it's the lib dem gorne— labour gains, it's the lib dem gorne .— labour gains, it's the lib dem gorne . r— labour gains, it's the lib dem gorne . r neon— labour gains, it's the lib dem gains. i mean windsor and maidenhead— gains. i mean windsor and maidenhead went to the lib dem
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rory— maidenhead went to the lib dem rory cenrrok— maidenhead went to the lib dem tory central that— maidenhead went to the lib dem tory central that was such a big eupree— tory central that was such a big eupree r— tory central that was such a big surprise, i think.— tory central that was such a big surprise, i think. although i mean there's— surprise, i think. although i mean there's a— surprise, i think. although i mean there's a lot of seats conrng— mean there's a lot of seats cornrng rn— mean there's a lot of seats coming in from _ mean there's a lot of seats coming in from slough, you know, it's coming in from slough, you know, we nor— coming in from slough, you know, we nor o— coming in from slough, you know, it's not a foregone— coming in from slough, you know, it's not a foregone conclusion onoo— it's not a foregone conclusion rnor rr-e— it's not a foregone conclusion no we o— it's not a foregone conclusion no we o rory— it's not a foregone conclusion that it's a tory seat, but it's a disastrous— that it's a tory seat, but it's a disastrous reflection on wnor-e— a disastrous reflection on we going— a disastrous reflection on what's going on at the moment. i ogree— what's going on at the moment. i ogree-rnor— what's going on at the moment. i agree _that rishi- what's going on at the moment. i agree that rishi sunak agree with you that rishi sunak , i agree with you that rishi sunak , r-noe— agree with you that rishi sunak , r-noe-very- , i think has taken very eenoueky— , i think has taken very seriously by— , i think has taken very seriously by other international keooere. — seriously by other international keooere. ne— seriously by other international leaders. he is— seriously by other international leaders. he is a— seriously by other international leaders. he is a very clever man ono— leaders. he is a very clever man onolrnrnk— leaders. he is a very clever man onolrnrnk ne-e— leaders. he is a very clever man and think he's doing far and i think he's doing far perrer— and i think he's doing far better expected . but at the better than expected. but at the end better than expected. but at the enolrne— better than expected. but at the enolrne ooy— better than expected. but at the enolrne ooy ,— better than expected. but at the end .the day , you— better than expected. but at the end the day , you know, end of the day, you know, rnere-e— end of the day, you know, rnere-e-eo— end of the day, you know, there's-so much- end of the day, you know, there's so much he can do there's only so much he can do in there's only so much he can do rn-rrne— there's only so much he can do rn-rrne ne-e— there's only so much he can do in-time he's got— there's only so much he can do in time he's got left . i in the time he's got left. i neon-onw— in the time he's got left. i mean, only thing he's got mean, the only thing he's got going— mean, the only thing he's got going for— mean, the only thing he's got going for-onoo- mean, the only thing he's got going for that keir going for him is that keir srorner— going for him is that keir starmer resonate going for him is that keir- starmer- resonate with starmer doesn't resonate with the starmer doesn't resonate with one vore — starmer doesn't resonate with the voter. well,— starmer doesn't resonate with the voter. well, yes , and i'm the voter. well, yes, and i'm very— the voter. well, yes, and i'm very-r— the voter. well, yes, and i'm very-r ny— the voter. well, yes, and i'm very-r cry ro- the voter. well, yes, and i'm very-i try to study. the voter. well, yes, and i'mi very-i try to study the very clear. i try to study the emails. i get sent to me on this show from listeners and viewers, and they can't stand keir starmer. they can't stand sunak either . but i starmer. they can't stand sunak either. but i just wonder whether in time in a year's time, sunak starts to look like the lesser two evils. but the lesser of two evils. but you know, enough time. it's know, it's not enough time. it's maybe enough speaking maybe not enough time. speaking of , does charles of not enough time, does charles have be a great have enough time to be a great king? oh, look, i mean, how old is king? oh, look, i mean, how old re ne— king? oh, look, i mean, how old re ne no— king? oh, look, i mean, how old is he now? he's— king? oh, look, i mean, how old is he now? he's 74.— king? oh, look, i mean, how old is he now? he's 74. 74.- “q7 oh, look, i mean, how old is he now? he's 74.74. his
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is he now? he's 74. 74. his norner— is he now? he's 74. 74. his mother-until- is he now? he's 74. 74. his mother- until she- is he now? he's 74.74. his mother until she was how mother lives until she was how old mother lives until she was how our ene— mother lives until she was how our ene oe— mother lives until she was how old she was 96.— mother lives until she was how old she was 96. 96, 96, 97. his grononorner— old she was 96. 96, 96, 97. his grandmother lived— old she was 96. 96, 96, 97. his grandmother lived until she was rere— grandmother lived until she was 101.7 r— grandmother lived until she was 1017 i believe— grandmother lived until she was 101? i believe so— grandmother lived until she was 101? i believe so longevity runs in rne— 101? i believe so longevity runs in one oner— 101? i believe so longevity runs in this after 99,— 101? i believe so longevity runs in this after 99, i— 101? i believe so longevity runs in this after 99, i think. yeah. so in this after 99, i think. yeah. so ne— in this after 99, i think. yeah. so ne couko— in this after 99, i think. yeah. so he could have— in this after 99, i think. yeah. so he could have 30 years on the rnrone— so he could have 30 years on the rnrone .— so he could have 30 years on the rnrone . rnor-e— so he could have 30 years on the throne . that's a— so he could have 30 years on the throne . that's a long time . throne. that's a long time. is onero— throne. that's a long time. is there o— throne. that's a long time. is there a problem— throne. that's a long time. is there a problem with- throne. that's a long time. is there a problem with an old and decrepit king? i don't think so . what do you make of paul burrell's idea? speaking just on the show a few minutes ago that that charles will likely hand over to abdicate to william in about ten years time? i don't think so. everyone— about ten years time? i don't think so. everyone talks- ail“ «rrir?s a 7 i don't think so. everyone talks about rne— think so. everyone talks about one. r— think so. everyone talks about one. r neon— think so. everyone talks about this. i mean, first— think so. everyone talks about this. i mean, first of all, peopke— this. i mean, first of all, peopke ewe— this. i mean, first of all, people were saying , actually, people were saying, actually, noype— people were saying, actually, noype rne— people were saying, actually, maybe the crown will just go errorgnr— maybe the crown will just go errorgnr ro— maybe the crown will just go straight to william. now that's it's constitutionally not poeerpke— it's constitutionally not possible for— it's constitutionally not possible for that to happen. and i possible for that to happen. and r—cnorkee- possible for that to happen. and i_charles will. i don't think that charles will wru— i don't think that charles will will abdicate— i don't think that charles will will abdicate people don't would he will abdicate people don't would ne wouko— will abdicate people don't would ne wouko nie— will abdicate people don't would he would his ego— will abdicate people don't would he would his ego allow him. no. he he would his ego allow him. no. we puer— he would his ego allow him. no. we we worreo— he would his ego allow him. no. he just waited long for the he just waited this long for the gig - — he just waited this long for the gig . rc-e— he just waited this long for the gig . rr-e-oury. - he just waited this long for the gig - it's-duty he- he just waited this long for the gig . a r:a«r ri gig. it's also duty. he feels that is his he's a that this is his duty. he's a respectful right . i think that respectful right. i think that he the only one that abdicated was edward the eighth, who never
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wanted to begin with. he wanted the job to begin with. he never no do you never wanted the job. no do you think charles wants— never wanted the job. no do you think charles wants this- \rz.r do you think charles wants this job? i do. think charles wants this job? i oo. nuc— think charles wants this job? i oo. nuc r— think charles wants this job? i do. but i wanted— think charles wants this job? i do. but i wanted to— think charles wants this job? i do. but i wanted to say- think charles wants this job? do. but i wanted to say to you, just listening . we keep talking just listening. we keep talking about william william. about william. william william. now, you covered diana extensively and i've always read that there was a little bit of envy there. we talked in the green room about how diana, everybody lined up to meet diana and they nobody lined up to see charles. is there envy at all with the king, with all the hope and enthusiasm is an interesting point because envy, it's not just if someone feels envy, they don't just feel it about one person. it's part of their cnorocrer.— person. it's part of their character. it's— " it's part of their character. it's part of how they reek— character. it's part of how they reek opour— character. it's part of how they feel about things. _ character. it's part of how they feel about things. and i was eoyrng— feel about things. and i was saying earlier— feel about things. and i was saying earlier that i was a young— saying earlier that i was a young re— saying earlier that i was a young 19 year— saying earlier that i was a young 19 year old trainee on the weerern— young 19 year old trainee on the western-cardiff- young 19 year old trainee on the western cardiff when western mail in cardiff when cnorkee— western mail in cardiff when charles-came- western mail in cardiff when charles came down western mail in cardiff when- charles-came down for charles and diana came down for oner— charles and diana came down for rnerr oner— charles and diana came down for their first tour— charles and diana came down for their first tour together. and it their first tour together. and rr—opvroue- their first tour together. and it-obvious then. their first tour together. and . it-obvious then that it was really obvious then that all it was really obvious then that on ou— it was really obvious then that on on rne— it was really obvious then that all all the all— it was really obvious then that all all the all the— it was really obvious then that all all the all the traffic, all rne— all all the all the traffic, all one peopke— all all the all the traffic, all the people are— all all the all the traffic, all the people are on her side of rne— the people are on her side of one erreer— the people are on her side of the street and— the people are on her side of the street and there was no one onieroe— the street and there was no one onieroe or— the street and there was no one on-side of-street.- the street and there was no one on side of street. and on his side of the street. and more— on his side of the street. and rnor-e-rr— on his side of the street. and that's-it started. - on his side of the street. and that's it started. that's that's when it started. that's wnen— that's when it started. that's when-obvious.- that's when it started. that's when-obvious. . that's when it started. that's. when-obvious. well, when it became obvious. well, whor— when it became obvious. well, wnor-rnrnk— when it became obvious. well, what think about charles what do you think about charles
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temperament? what do you think about charles tempkhe'sent? what do you think about charles tempkhe's got a big ego? is he think he's got a big ego? is he think he's got a big ego? is he thin skinned? is he insecure? i think that he's a temper. think that he's got a temper. i rnrnk— think that he's got a temper. i onrnk ne-e— think that he's got a temper. i onrnk ne-e gor— think that he's got a temper. i think he's got a— think that he's got a temper. i think he's got a bad temper. r-ve— think he's got a bad temper. r-ve neoro— think he's got a bad temper. i've heard people say that. and i've heard people say that. and rrnrnk— i've heard people say that. and r onrnk ne— i've heard people say that. and i think he finds— i've heard people say that. and i think he finds it— i've heard people say that. and i think he finds it difficult to get i think he finds it difficult to ger rr— i think he finds it difficult to ger to under— i think he finds it difficult to get it under control. i think he pe— get it under control. i think he be very— get it under control. i think he can be very incensed by the negro— can be very incensed by the media attention— can be very incensed by the media attention that really does rile media attention that really does he nrn — media attention that really does rile him sometimes . and that's rile him sometimes. and that's why— rile him sometimes. and that's wny rn— rile him sometimes. and that's wny r-n eoyrng— rile him sometimes. and that's why i'm saying that i believe rnor— why i'm saying that i believe that camilla— why i'm saying that i believe that camilla-a— why i'm saying that i believe that camilla a calming that camilla is a calming influence— that camilla is a calming influence on— that camilla is a calming influence on him. i think that he influence on him. i think that ne wru— influence on him. i think that ne wru pe— influence on him. i think that ne wru pe o— influence on him. i think that he will be a better king because of neu— he will be a better king because of ner. nur— he will be a better king because of her. but listen,— he will be a better king because of her. but listen, you're no erronger— of her. but listen, you're no erronger ro— of her. but listen, you're no stranger to dropping the occasional— stranger to dropping the occasional truth bomb as well. you-ve— occasional truth bomb as well. you've covered _ occasional truth bomb as well. you've covered - royal- occasional truth bomb as well. you've covered-royal beat. you've covered the royal beat for years you to for many years and you spoke to me tones during the me in hushed tones during the break well, we break about camilla. well, we don't hushed this don't do hushed tones on this show , okay? and i like to save show, okay? and i like to save the gold for my viewers and listeners, not for brilliant listeners, not for our brilliant crew . so what what's your theory crew. so what what's your theory about camilla? because it's a theory that's shared by tom bower, who was a guest on the show earlier. i think she ooeen-r— show earlier. i think she- doesn't—workload. doesn't like a heavy workload. con— doesn't like a heavy workload. con-rr— doesn't like a heavy workload. con-n onoo— doesn't like a heavy workload. can-it that way? - doesn't like a heavy workload. can it that way? a can i put it that way? it's commo— can i put it that way? it's camilla work.— can i put it that way? it's camilla work. she is she lazy? i've heard it said yeah. and how wouko— i've heard it said yeah. and how wouko onoo— i've heard it said yeah. and how would that manifest itself? just not wanting to turn back
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ono— just not wanting to turn back one genurneky— just not wanting to turn back and genuinely back . so and genuinely laid back. so i gueee— and genuinely laid back. so i gueeelrn— and genuinely laid back. so i gueeelrn nony— and genuinely laid back. so i guess in many ways an guess it in many ways it's an oovonroge.— guess it in many ways it's an advantage. that's— guess it in many ways it's an advantage. that's why she's so eucn— advantage. that's why she's so eucn-coknrng- such a kind of calming influence.— such a kind of calming influence. that's right. because. t because. because for that reason, that reason, is this a case that she pushes what you've pushes back from what you've heard that heard from your people, that she's pushed on, she's pushed, pushed back on, on having calendar filled up? having her calendar filled up? oh, definitely wouldn't like oh, she definitely wouldn't like her filled up. i think her calendar filled up. i think there causes that are quite there are causes that are quite close to heart. but she close to her heart. but she she's she's she's she doesn't like the limelight. she's never sought it. she doesn't particularly, you know , do the particularly, you know, do the diana thing, who could actually grab the focus of attention and really perform for the public. she's never been that way . and she's never been that way. and she's she's not interested in the paraphernalia. you look at camilla's style, she looks good because the stylist has gone in there and made everything kind of clean lined and perfect. but she hasn't got a style the way diana not like diana has. and the only issue is , i j e j and the only issue is , i mean, the only issue is, i mean, more— the only issue is, i mean, more in— the only issue is, i mean, that's it. she's- the only issue is, i mean, that's it. she's not the workaholic— that's it. she's not the workaholic .- that's it. she's not the workaholic . perhaps tom bower in workaholic. perhaps tom bower in his workaholic. perhaps tom bower in he pock— workaholic. perhaps tom bower in his book rebel— workaholic. perhaps tom bower in his book rebel king alleged is onoo— his book rebel king alleged is no ene— his book rebel king alleged is that she can't— his book rebel king alleged is that she can't even be bothered to that she can't even be bothered ro ger— that she can't even be bothered ro ger oreeeeo— that she can't even be bothered to get dressed up— that she can't even be bothered to get dressed up that she
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ooeen-r— to get dressed up that she doesn't like _ to get dressed up that she doesn't like all— to get dressed up that she doesn't like all the fancy. she ween-c.— doesn't like all the fancy. she doesn't. that's— doesn't like all the fancy. she doesn't. that's what- doesn't like all the fancy. she doesn't. that's what i'm saying. she doesn't like it. it's exactly what i'm saying, that she coronation is business attire. how would you feel if ocruouy— attire. how would you feel if ocruouy ene— attire. how would you feel if actually she was— ”iii: how would you feel if actually she was just the peopke-e— actually she was just the people's queen and pitched people's queen and she pitched up ,— people's queen and she pitched up . opened— people's queen and she pitched up . openeo o— people's queen and she pitched up , opened a hospital, up, opened a hospital, a noeprrok— up, opened a hospital, a hospital trackies and hospital in her trackies and rip— hospital in her trackies and up hope.— hospital in her trackies and up hope. r— hospital in her trackies and flip flops. i mean , a nice flip flops. i mean, a nice noooeo— flip flops. i mean, a nice noooeo cop.— flip flops. i mean, a nice hooded top. _ flip flops. i mean, a nice hooded top. q" flip flops. i mean, a nice hooded top. cj" flip flops. i mean, a nice- hooded top. oh, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. yeah. no, i- hooded top. yeah. no, i don't no, no, no. yeah. no, i don't rnrnk— no, no, no. yeah. no, i don't onrnk onoo— no, no, no. yeah. no, i don't think that that's— no, no, no. yeah. no, i don't think that that's an- yeah. no, i don't think that that's an option. gap,— think that that's an option. our, you— think that that's an option. but, you know,— think that that's an option. but, you know, dressed down gueen— but, you know, dressed down gueen r— but, you know, dressed down gueen r-wrrn— but, you know, dressed down queen, i-with-i. but, you know, dressed down. queen, i-with-i think queen, i agree with you. i think onoo— queen, i agree with you. i think rnor—ene— queen, i agree with you. i think that—she pursues- that that's why she pursues rnrnge— that that's why she pursues rnrnge-pook- that that's why she pursues things book club things like her book club onrnoke. — things like her book club animals. she— things like her book club animals. she might it, animals. she might not like it, but animals. she might not like it, our ene— animals. she might not like it, but she pursues— animals. she might not like it, but she pursues that but she pursues things that ene-e— but she pursues things that. ene-e—ano she's passionate things. and wonky.— frankly, charles doesn't want the competition. absolutely . the competition. absolutely. that's what it is. linda, what a thrill to have you come back and see us soon. the fabulous linda upnee.— see us soon. the fabulous linda ruprree. krneey— see us soon. the fabulous linda jubilee. kinsey-going- as i the fabulous linda jubilee. kinsey going to jubilee. kinsey is going to errck— jubilee. kinsey is going to- errck—r-orneo stick around and we'll be joined necr— stick around and we'll be joined nexr py— stick around and we'll be joined nexr py nour— stick around and we'll be joined next by paul burrell with a ernpke— next by paul burrell with a- simple—questions, simple question. two questions, in simple question. two questions, p...— simple question. two questions, rn-lcnorkee— simple question. two questions, in-.lcharles too- simple question. two questions, in . charles too woke to in fact. is charles too woke to be king— in fact. is charles too woke to be king ono— in fact. is charles too woke to be king ono re— in fact. is charles too woke to be king and is he— in fact. is charles too woke to be king and is he too old? we'll orecuee— be king and is he too old? we'll orecuee-.—
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next this | neoc- this welcome | neoc— this welcome back to | new— this welcome back to mark next this welcome back to mark dolan ronrgnr— this welcome back to mark dolan ronrgnr ano— this welcome back to mark dolan ronrgnr no r— this welcome back to mark dolan tonight and it is— this welcome back to mark dolan tonight and it is the coronation counr— tonight and it is the coronation counr oown. — tonight and it is the coronation count down. we— tonight and it is the coronation count down. we are here at the pokoce— count down. we are here at the pokoce rn— count down. we are here at the pokoce in one— count down. we are here at the palace in the company tonight of the palace in the company tonight of one oueen— palace in the company tonight of one oueen or— palace in the company tonight of the queen of us,— palace in the company tonight of the queen of us, showbiz royal ono— the queen of us, showbiz royal ono pokrrrcok— the queen of us, showbiz royal and political reporting, kinsey scnoneko— and political reporting, kinsey schofield and— and political reporting, kinsey schofield and former butler to prono— schofield and former butler to diana, princess— schofield and former butler to diana, princess of— schofield and former butler to diana, princess of wales, star of diana, princess of wales, star or rne— diana, princess of wales, star or one punge— diana, princess of wales, star of the jungle, of— diana, princess of wales, star of the jungle, of course. and pock— of the jungle, of course. and pock rn— of the jungle, of course. and now back in rude— of the jungle, of course. and now back in rude health, the union— now back in rude health, the brilliant paul— now back in rude health, the brilliant paul burrell. now back in rude health, the brilliant paul burrell . we've brilliant paul burrell. we've noo— brilliant paul burrell. we've noo rne— brilliant paul burrell. we've had the papers— brilliant paul burrell. we've had the papers coming in and ice— had the papers coming in and ice or— had the papers coming in and lots of discussion— had the papers coming in and lots of discussion across the once— lots of discussion across the once noure— lots of discussion across the three hours about charles's pounce.— three hours about charles's pounce. re— three hours about charles's politics. is he— three hours about charles's politics. is he too woke to be king? — politics. is he too woke to be king? re— politics. is he too woke to be king? re ne— politics. is he too woke to be king? is he too— politics. is he too woke to be king? is he too woke to be king? that's a very interesting question, isn't it? he's going to have to follow his mother and their big shoes to fill , but their big shoes to fill, but he's also going to have to be relevant to his people. and the commonwealth. as i said before , commonwealth. as i said before, it's a tightrope he has to walk . is he too woke too awake ? he . is he too woke too awake? he has to be because , you know, the has to be because, you know, the world is changing . the world is
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world is changing. the world is changing. and he has to address so many issues and as you said before in the programme, you know, they're only they're only as long as the people want them to be there. though should he be careful to not court public opinion, especially from the sort more progressive left, sort of more progressive left, perhaps the so—called wokeist ? perhaps the so—called wokeist? you know, i mean, if you look a.— you know, i mean, if you look a, for— you know, i mean, if you look at, for example,— you know, i mean, if you look at, for example, the suggestion he at, for example, the suggestion ne nrgnr— at, for example, the suggestion he might apologise for slavery, wnrcn— he might apologise for slavery, wnrcn opene— he might apologise for slavery, wnrcn opene o— he might apologise for slavery, which opens a whole can of worne—anol which opens a whole can of. worms,_and you worms, it does. so. and you know, what's happened the worms, it does. so. and you know,weiat's happened the worms, it does. so. and you know,we should)pened the worms, it does. so. and you know,we should learnd the worms, it does. so. and you know,we should learn from he worms, it does. so. and you know,we should learn from those past, we should learn from those lessons and move forward . and lessons and move forward. and the king can't be apologising for everything during his reign. should he then apologise for the pearls that came from elizabeth, the first that are in the crown 7 the first that are in the crown ? should he apologise for the kohinoor diamond? should he apologise for taking the elgin marbles ? i mean, it doesn't stop marbles? i mean, it doesn't stop in many ways. perhaps he should do wnor— in many ways. perhaps he should do wnor rne— in many ways. perhaps he should do what the queen— in many ways. perhaps he should do what the queen did,- i perhaps he should do what the queen did, which is ereer— do what the queen did, which is ereer ckeor— do what the queen did, which is steer clear of— do what the queen did, which is steer clear of that— do what the queen did, which is steer clear of that altogether. apeokureky— steer clear of that altogether. absolutely. nothing. - steer clear of that altogether. absolutely - nothing. take . absolutely say nothing. take a page her book. and i think page from her book. and i think much of reign he will have much of his reign he will have to refer to his mother's reign of 70 years, which was which was
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profound. i mean , she was the profound. i mean, she was the beating heart of this nation. she had tremendous respect. and that's what he has to earn from the public and the people of this country . the public and the people of this country. his people. what about his temperament- this country. his people. what about his temperament ?- t what about his temperament ? linda? about his temperament? linda? ruprkee— about his temperament? linda? ruprkee oe— about his temperament? linda? jubilee was telling us that he onoo— jubilee was telling us that he that charles— jubilee was telling us that he that charles has— jubilee was telling us that he that charles has a fierce renper. — that charles has a fierce temper. yes,- that charles has a fierce temper. yes, he- that charles has a fierce temper. t/ris : t/ris temper. yes, he does. yes, absolutely. is that going to temper. t/ris : t/ris cilia; is that going to be absolutely. is that going to be an absolutely. is that going to be on oo— absolutely. is that going to be an issue, do you— cilia; is that going to be an issue, do you think? \rir an issue, do you think? no, recoupe— an issue, do you think? no, because camilla's- an issue, do you think? no, because camilla's there. right. and that's his safety valve. you see in the charles and diana days , they were so far apart in days, they were so far apart in temperament and in in many ways they didn't match. and there marriage was toxic at times . marriage was toxic at times. camilla and charles are much closer in age and they've shared the same culture all their lives. so she is there behind him to gently put her hand on his shoulder and say, charles, slow down, charles, don't do that. did not see the episode when the pen was leaking. when he was signing his declaration. fabulous. that's a that's a
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slight view of the of the kings temper just slight view of the of the kings temperjust boiling along. and then camilla steps into the scene. it just comes down. that's what she's there for. and she is going to be a queen in the shadows , just gently coaxing the shadows, just gently coaxing him and pushing him back on the right track. do you think we've talked earlier about her alleged reluctance to dress up and to have a full diary? i don't think she really wants it. i don't . so she really wants it. i don't. so she really wants it. i don't. so she wants he wants her to be queen.i she wants he wants her to be queen. i think from the very beginning he said to her, you know, you are going to be my queen come hell or high water. you are going to be my queen. that's the reward for standing by me . that's the reward for by me. that's the reward for your love. yeah, for my during my lifetime you are the woman who was unnegotiable during the queen's reign. even the queen and prince philip said we do not
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condone your extramarital affair with. with camilla. in fact, a letter written by prince philip to princess diana said , mama and to princess diana said, mama and i do not agree with this extramarital affair . in fact, extramarital affair. in fact, his exact words were mama and i cannot understand for the life of us why you would prefer camilla instead of you . so camilla instead of you. so therefore, for camilla- : so therefore, for camilla to become gueen — therefore, for camilla to become gueen re— therefore, for camilla to become gueen re rne — therefore, for camilla to become queen is the fulfilment of cnorkee-e— queen is the fulfilment of charles's will. - queen is the fulfilment of charles's will. ' cilia; �*00 charles's will. absolutely. 100. so how does he drag poor old camilla along with him to all those hospital openings ? he those hospital openings? he won't. and you won't see her, is that right? true because will she be the part time queen when this palace is refurbished ? yes. this palace is refurbished? yes. when this palace this palace is refurbished in three years time, it will be complete . completely it will be complete. completely rewired. replumbed the king will move in to the queen's
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apartment. king will be replumbed. _ king will be replumbed. \rzr apartment. king will be- replumbed. careful. no, he apartment. king will be replumbed. careful. no, he will move into the queen's apartment. oh, i see. i think camilla will quite likely stay at clarence house. wow she retains ramil a house in the cotswolds. that's her life. her home for her family. and she intends to pursue that part of her life. she will not be a full time queen. you're right, mark. she won't. so it won't be a partnership. she won't be on his on nie— partnership. she won't be on his arms, on his arm— partnership. she won't be on his arms, on his arm 24/7.- arms, on his arm 24/7. absolutely— arms, on his arm 24/7. absolutely not. a: arms, on his arm 24/7. absolutely not. at r:rzr arms, on his arm 24/7.- absolutely not. she will do her own thing. he will do his thing, philip. and they will come together sometimes. philip, she ain't no absolute not. it's a thoroughly modern marriage. it's a marriage that that, that actually comes together . did you actually comes together. did you say your reaction to— actually comes together. did you say your reaction to that?- say your reaction to that? necouee— say your reaction to that? necouee r— say your reaction to that? because i think that's fascinating- because i think that's fascinating insight that camilla nrgnr— fascinating insight that camilla nrgnr pe— fascinating insight that camilla nrgnr pe rne— fascinating insight that camilla might be the part time queen. in — might be the part time queen. i'm fascinated— might be the part time queen. i'm fascinated by— might be the part time queen. i'm fascinated by it,— might be the part time queen. i'm fascinated by it, too.- might be the part time queen. i'm fascinated by it, too. but can raise hand? can can i can i raise my hand? can i ask question? have ask one more question? i have one question. you know, one more question. so, you know, dunng one more question. so, you know, during the panorama interview, diana says, you she diana says, you know, she doesn't up for the doesn't know if he's up for the job. i wanted to know, do you
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feel is not a fair feel that that is not a fair assessment based on how he obtained that interview ? it's obtained that interview? it's a fair assessment from rir: 7 it's a fair assessment from diana, rnnceee— fair assessment from diana, rnnceee or— fair assessment from diana, princess of wales, to say that ner— princess of wales, to say that ner nuepono— princess of wales, to say that her husband may— princess of wales, to say that her husband may not be up for the her husband may not be up for one rop— her husband may not be up for one rop job— her husband may not be up for one rop jobr pur— her husband may not be up for the top job, but she knew the weu. — the top job, but she knew the weu. n— the top job, but she knew the man well. 17 years of marriage. sne— man well. 17 years of marriage. sne knew— man well. 17 years of marriage. she knew exactly— man well. 17 years of marriage. she knew exactly his character. sne— she knew exactly his character. sne knew— she knew exactly his character. sne knew rr— she knew exactly his character. she knew it would _ she knew exactly his character. she knew it would be limiting for nin— she knew it would be limiting for run. wow.— she knew it would be limiting for him. wow. she knew that he was forever meddling in things onoo— was forever meddling in things no ne— was forever meddling in things that he shouldn't— was forever meddling in things that he shouldn't be. she knew onoo— that he shouldn't be. she knew no nigh.— that he shouldn't be. she knew that. right. and— that he shouldn't be. she knew that. right. and she knew as king,— that. right. and she knew as krng, ne— that. right. and she knew as king, he couldn't— that. right. and she knew as king, he couldn't do that constitutionally. he has he con-r— constitutionally. he has he can't interfere— constitutionally. he has he can't interfere air in politics or reouy— can't interfere air in politics or really anything. he's a ngureneoo— or really anything. he's a figurehead .— or really anything. he's a figurehead . so he's going to be figurehead. so he's going to be nureo— figurehead. so he's going to be nureo ro— figurehead. so he's going to be nureo o o— figurehead. so he's going to be muted to a certain— figurehead. so he's going to be muted to a certain extent. rnor-e— muted to a certain extent. we going— muted to a certain extent. that's going to— muted to a certain extent. that's going to be difficult for run. — that's going to be difficult for him. ' cilia; okay. well, him. absolutely. okay. well, rook,— him. absolutely. okay. well, rook, rere— him. absolutely. okay. well, rook, ker-e ger— him. absolutely. okay. well, look, let's get the— him. ' cilia; okay. well, look, let's get the results of pou— look, let's get the results of pou . — look, let's get the results of our poll . we've- look, let's get the results of our poll . �*fh�*ri i g look, let's get the results of- our poll . we've been asking you our poll. we've been asking you is charles too woke to be king? the public has spoken. we've got the results . and here they come the results. and here they come , 43.7 say no. he's not too woke, but a majority. i'm afraid, of 56.3 say he is too
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hello. welcome back. i'm . hello. welcome back. in nernony— hello. welcome back. i'm bethany elsey with your top eronee— i'm bethany elsey with your top eronee non — i'm bethany elsey with your top stories from the— i'm bethany elsey with your top stories from the gb news room. in stories from the gb news room. rn rne— stories from the gb news room. n he na— stories from the gb news room. in the first major— stories from the gb news room. in the first major test for rune— in the first major test for prime minister- in the first major test for prime minister rishi sunak, the coneervorrve— prime minister rishi sunak, the conservative party has lost connoi— conservative party has lost conrrok or— conservative party has lost control of 48— conservative party has lost control of 48 councils in rngkono— control of 48 councils in england and— control of 48 councils in england and more than a thousand eeore— england and more than a thousand eeore wron— england and more than a thousand eeore wrrn puer— england and more than a thousand seats with just two— england and more than a thousand seats with just two councils enu— seats with just two councils ecru ken— seats with just two councils still left to _ seats with just two councils still left to declare the reeukre— still left to declare the results of _ still left to declare the results of yesterday's local ekecrron — results of yesterday's local election vote,— results of yesterday's local election vote, labour has gained 22 councrek— election vote, labour has gained 22 councils, so— election vote, labour has gained 22 councils, so far— election vote, labour has gained 22 councils, so far and is now rne— 22 councils, so far and is now one korgeer— 22 councils, so far and is now the largest political party at kocok— the largest political party at local government level. the uperok— local government level. the liberal democrats have gained 12 councrke— liberal democrats have gained 12 councrke ono— liberal democrats have gained 12 councils and the— liberal democrats have gained 12 councils and the green party has onen— councils and the green party has won their first— councils and the green party has won their first outright nor-onw— won their first outright nor-onry or— won their first outright majority of a- won their first outright majority of a council for the na— majority of a council for the fire nae,— majority of a council for the first time, securing mid—suffolk roen— first time, securing mid—suffolk krenr sunok— first time, securing mid—suffolk rishi sunak has— first time, securing mid—suffolk rishi sunak has admitted the reeukre— rishi sunak has admitted the reeukre ore—
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rishi sunak has admitted the results are disappointing , while

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