tv Neil Oliver - Live GB News May 6, 2023 6:00pm-7:00pm BST
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boyzlife on gb news tv and on radio comes up on the show this evening on this historic day for the nation. i'll be discussing uk sovereignty with the doctors, cat linley and robert malone , cat linley and robert malone, who will truly reign over us when we sign up to the. was pandemic prepared treaty. and i'll also be joined by the lawyer, francis hoare, who says, i'm worrying about nothing because the uk will always have the final say. all of that plus plenty chat with my brilliant
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panellist, andrew eborn. but first, an update on the latest news bethany. lc . neil, news from bethany. lc. neil, thank you. i am bethany, lc with highlights— thank you. i am bethany, lc with some highlights from _ i am bethany, lc with some highlights from today. i am bethany, lc with some highlights from today . a some highlights from today. a moment— some highlights from today. a moment of— some highlights from today. a moment of history for commonwealth and country as king charms— commonwealth and country as king charms me— commonwealth and country as king charles the third— commonwealth and country as king charles the third is— commonwealth and country as king charles the third is crowned as the charles the third is crowned as me nation-s— charles the third is crowned as the nation's monarch, as the archbishop— the nation's monarch, as the archbishop of— the nation's monarch, as the archbishop of canterbury place sam— archbishop of canterbury place saint edward's— archbishop of canterbury place saint edward's crown on his mammy-s— saint edward's crown on his majesty's head.— saint edward's crown on his majesty's head. there were eeemm— majesty's head. there were eeemm ef— majesty's head. there were cheers of god— majesty's head. there were cheers of god save the king. king— cheers of god save the king. king memes— cheers of god save the king. king charles became the 40th memmem— king charles became the 40th memmem ee— king charles became the 40th monarch to be— king charles became the 40th monarch to be crowned at westminster— monarch to be crowned at westminster abbey in the first eeeememem— westminster abbey in the first coronation to— westminster abbey in the first coronation to be— westminster abbey in the first coronation to be held there for seven decades. _ coronation to be held there for seven decades. although he's been— seven decades. although he's been king— seven decades. although he's been king fee— seven decades. although he's been king for eight months, teem,— been king for eight months, teem, me— been king for eight months, today, he truly— been king for eight months, today, he truly wears the crown following— today, he truly wears the crown following me — today, he truly wears the crown following the death of his memen— following the death of his mother, the _ following the death of his mother, the late queen elizabeth ii mother, the late queen elizabeth .. m— mother, the late queen elizabeth ii in september,— mother, the late queen elizabeth ii in september, due ring the eeemem king— ii in september, due ring the ceremony. king charles promised to ceremony. king charles promised ee eee— ceremony. king charles promised ee meme— ceremony. king charles promised to use justice and— ceremony. king charles promised to use justice and mercy in all his to use justice and mercy in all me megememe— to use justice and mercy in all hisjudgements. _ to use justice and mercy in all his judgements . em a to use justice and mercy in all his judgements . me a his judgements. will you solemnly promise and swear to govern the peoples of the united
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kingdom of great britain and northern ireland, your other realms and the territories, to any of them belonging or pertaining according adding to their respective laws and customs .7 i solemnly promise so customs? i solemnly promise so to customs? i solemnly promise so ee ee— customs? i solemnly promise so ee ee. mm— customs? i solemnly promise so ee ee. wm vou— customs? i solemnly promise so to do. will you to— customs? i solemnly promise so to do. will you to your- f“ i solemnly promise so to do. will you to your power cause law and— to do. will you to your power cause law and justice in mercy to cause law and justice in mercy e be— cause law and justice in mercy to be executed— cause law and justice in mercy to be executed in— cause law and justice in mercy to be executed in all your meeememe— to be executed in all your meeememe i— to be executed in all your judgements, i .- to be executed in all your judgements, i .will immediate judgements, i. will immediate mem— judgements, i. will immediate mm me— judgements, i. will immediate after the king— judgements, i. will immediate after the king queen camilla was ememem— after the king queen camilla was ememeee eme— after the king queen camilla was anointed and crowned with queen mam-e— anointed and crowned with queen mam-e eeem— anointed and crowned with queen mam-e ey— anointed and crowned with queen mary's crown by the archbishop of mary's crown by the archbishop ef ememem— mary's crown by the archbishop of canterbury in— mary's crown by the archbishop of canterbury in a— mary's crown by the archbishop of canterbury in a touching memem— of canterbury in a touching memem ef— of canterbury in a touching moment of the— of canterbury in a touching moment of the ceremony, the prime— moment of the ceremony, the prime ef— moment of the ceremony, the prince of wales— moment of the ceremony, the prince of wales pledged himself to prince of wales pledged himself ee me— prince of wales pledged himself ee me memm— prince of wales pledged himself to his father. _ prince of wales pledged himself to his father. i,— prince of wales pledged himself to his father . me a 37” lc: to his father. i, william prince of wales, pledged my loyalty to you and faith and truth . i will you and faith and truth. i will bear unto you as your liege man of life and limb. so help me god . prince william kissed charles on . prince william kissed charles em me—
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. prince william kissed charles em me emeem— . prince william kissed charles on the cheek, and— prince william kissed charles on the cheek, and the king said a on the cheek, and the king said e few— on the cheek, and the king said e few meme— on the cheek, and the king said a few words to— on the cheek, and the king said a few words to his— on the cheek, and the king said a few words to his son. prince meem— a few words to his son. prince harry wee— a few words to his son. prince harry was seated— a few words to his son. prince harry was seated two rows behind his harry was seated two rows behind me memm— harry was seated two rows behind me memm m— harry was seated two rows behind his brother in the— harry was seated two rows behind his brother in the abbey. he was jemee— his brother in the abbey. he was jemee ew— his brother in the abbey. he was jemee by me— his brother in the abbey. he was joined by his uncle— his brother in the abbey. he was joined by his uncle andrew, the duke— joined by his uncle andrew, the duke ef— joined by his uncle andrew, the duke ef yew.— joined by his uncle andrew, the duke of york. earlier, buckingham palace confirmed that memm— buckingham palace confirmed that memem wewe— buckingham palace confirmed that neither would play— buckingham palace confirmed that neither would play a formal role at me— neither would play a formal role at me mem— neither would play a formal role at the event as— neither would play a formal role at the event as they're no longer— at the event as they're no longer working. royals around 2200— longer working. royals around mo ememe— longer working. royals around 2200 guests filled westminster abbey— 2200 guests filled westminster abbey fee— 2200 guests filled westminster abbey few we — 2200 guests filled westminster abbey for the historic occasion , eeemgmee— abbey for the historic occasion , alongside members of the royal femww— , alongside members of the royal femww me— , alongside members of the royal family, the prime— , alongside members of the royal family, the prime minister and his family, the prime minister and me we— family, the prime minister and me we .— family, the prime minister and his wife , former— family, the prime minister and his wife , former prime ministers his wife, former prime ministers mim— his wife, former prime ministers emm eeeme— his wife, former prime ministers faith leaders and— his wife, former prime ministers faith leaders and local heroes ememem.— faith leaders and local heroes attended. members of foreign eeweww— attended. members of foreign eeweww wewe — attended. members of foreign royalty, world leaders and heads of royalty, world leaders and heads ef me— royalty, world leaders and heads of the commonwealth were also invited— of the commonwealth were also invited alongside— of the commonwealth were also invited alongside some well mewm— invited alongside some well known celebrities . king charles known celebrities. king charles eme— known celebrities. king charles and emeem— known celebrities. king charles and queen camilla have appeared on and queen camilla have appeared em me— and queen camilla have appeared em me emeem— and queen camilla have appeared on the balcony of— and queen camilla have appeared on the balcony of buckingham emeee— on the balcony of buckingham peweee ee— on the balcony of buckingham palace to thank— on the balcony of buckingham palace to thank the thousands whe— palace to thank the thousands wme eemmee— palace to thank the thousands who gathered there to pay their emeem— who gathered there to pay their eeeeeeee ee — who gathered there to pay their respects to the— who gathered there to pay their respects to the new monarchs .
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respects to the new monarchs. me— respects to the new monarchs. the king— respects to the new monarchs. the king eme— respects to the new monarchs. the king and queen were welcomed by me— the king and queen were welcomed by me eeee— the king and queen were welcomed by the crowds who _ the king and queen were welcomed by the crowds who cheered in celebration _ by the crowds who cheered in celebration when _ by the crowds who cheered in celebration when they were joined— celebration when they were joined by— celebration when they were joined by me— celebration when they were joined by the prince and mmeeee— joined by the prince and princess of— joined by the prince and princess of wales and their emee— princess of wales and their three children. _ princess of wales and their three children. princess charlotte, _ three children. princess charlotte, seen there in the mem. — charlotte, seen there in the mem. wee— charlotte, seen there in the front. also waving to well—wishers. two of the king's ebbbmee— well—wishers. two of the king's siblings, princess— well—wishers. two of the king's siblings, princess anne and mmee— siblings, princess anne and prince edward,— siblings, princess anne and prince edward, also came out to mem— prince edward, also came out to mem ewbbemme— prince edward, also came out to greet supporters due to the weemm. — greet supporters due to the weemm. a— greet supporters due to the weather. a scaled back fly past of weather. a scaled back fly past eb beyeb— weather. a scaled back fly past eb beyeb ab— weather. a scaled back fly past of royal air force— weather. a scaled back fly past of royal air force jets , of royal air force jets, mememg— of royal air force jets, including the famous red arrows, flew— including the famous red arrows, flew ee— including the famous red arrows, flew me — including the famous red arrows, flew over the crowds that filled the flew over the crowds that filled me mew— flew over the crowds that filled me men and — flew over the crowds that filled the mall and over— flew over the crowds that filled the mall and over the nation's . king— the mall and over the nation's . mmg gm— the mall and over the nation's new. king gun salutes have the mall and over the nation's new . king gun salutes have been new. king gun salutes have been bew— new. king gun salutes have been bebe meme— new. king gun salutes have been held around the— new. king gun salutes have been held around the uk to mark the mewmme— held around the uk to mark the mewmmg eb— held around the uk to mark the crowning of the— held around the uk to mark the crowning of the king at horse ememe— crowning of the king at horse guards parade— crowning of the king at horse guards parade in— crowning of the king at horse guards parade in london. the king's— guards parade in london. the mmg-e weep,— guards parade in london. the king's troop, royal horse ambbmy— king's troop, royal horse artillery fired— king's troop, royal horse artillery fired a six gun salute . m— artillery fired a six gun salute
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. m webm— artillery fired a six gun salute . in wales. the— artillery fired a six gun salute . in wales. the 104th regiment beyeb— . in wales. the 104th regiment beyeb amumy— . in wales. the 104th regiment royal artillery performed a 21 gun— royal artillery performed a 21 gm emme— royal artillery performed a 21 gm eeeme m— royal artillery performed a 21 gun salute at cardiff castle . gun salute at cardiff castle. wbm— gun salute at cardiff castle. wbm .— gun salute at cardiff castle. wbm . ab— gun salute at cardiff castle. what . at edinburgh castle, the what. at edinburgh castle, the bomb— what. at edinburgh castle, the 105th regiment,— what. at edinburgh castle, the 105th regiment, royal artillery mee— 105th regiment, royal artillery emee e— 105th regiment, royal artillery emee e 2b— 105th regiment, royal artillery emee e b gm— 105th regiment, royal artillery fired a 21 gun salute, and mmmbme— fired a 21 gun salute, and members of— fired a 21 gun salute, and members of the third battalion of members of the third battalion eb me— members of the third battalion eb me beyeb— members of the third battalion of the royal regiment of seeweme— of the royal regiment of scotland and— of the royal regiment of scotland and instructors of the army— scotland and instructors of the army eeem— scotland and instructors of the army cadet force— scotland and instructors of the army cadet force played the mebemeb— army cadet force played the national anthem _ army cadet force played the national anthem . bok, bok. bok, national anthem. bok, bok. bok, beb— national anthem. bok, bok. bok, beb .— national anthem. bok, bok. bok, beb. — national anthem. bok, bok. bok, me and— national anthem. bok, bok. bok, me and be— national anthem. bok, bok. bok, bok . and in northern- national anthem. bok, bok. bok, bok. " \ bok. and in northern ireland, the 206th ulster battery of the same regiment also fired a 21 gun salute at hillsborough castle. the fort guard who's been— castle. the fort guard who's been involved _ castle. the fort guard who's been involved in— the fort guard who's been involved in every coronation— been involved in every coronation event since 1660. wee— coronation event since 1660. be beek— coronation event since 1660. be beeb bem— coronation event since 1660. also took part in— coronation event since 1660. also took part in typical mmem— also took part in typical british weather. there was heavy rain:— british weather. there was heavy bub— british weather. there was heavy bub mm— british weather. there was heavy rain, but that failed to dampen the enthusiasm _ rain, but that failed to dampen the enthusiasm of the crowds who gemmee— the enthusiasm of the crowds who eemmee mebme— the enthusiasm of the crowds who gathered hoping to— the enthusiasm of the crowds who gathered hoping to catch a gbmbee— gathered hoping to catch a gbmbee eb— gathered hoping to catch a glimpse of the— gathered hoping to catch a glimpse of the king and queen. all procession—
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glimpse of the king and queen. all procession viewing areas meme— all procession viewing areas along me— all procession viewing areas along the route— all procession viewing areas along the route were filled to eebeeby— along the route were filled to eebeebby .— along the route were filled to eebeebby . mme— along the route were filled to capacity . fans cheered charles capacity. fans cheered charles eme— capacity. fans cheered charles and mmbme— capacity. fans cheered charles and camilla as— capacity. fans cheered charles and camilla as they travelled eewm— and camilla as they travelled eewm me — and camilla as they travelled down the mall— and camilla as they travelled down the mall in— and camilla as they travelled down the mall in the gold state. eeem— down the mall in the gold state. eeeeb wbbeb— down the mall in the gold state. coach which is— down the mall in the gold state. coach which is over— down the mall in the gold state. coach which is over 260 years ebb— coach which is over 260 years ebb eme— coach which is over 260 years ebb and bee— coach which is over 260 years old and has been— coach which is over 260 years old and has been used at every eeeemebem— old and has been used at every coronation since— old and has been used at every coronation since 1831. we spoke to coronation since 1831. we spoke be eeme— coronation since 1831. we spoke be ef— coronation since 1831. we spoke to some of the— coronation since 1831. we spoke to some of the 10,000 people who mmem— to some of the 10,000 people who mmee we.— to some of the 10,000 people who turned up. amazing— to some of the 10,000 people who turned up. amazing _ to some of the 10,000 people who turned up. amazing just ebeebweeby— turned up. amazing just absolutely amazing. yeah just congratulations to the to the king and queen camilla. unbelievable all very wet, but mme— unbelievable all very wet, but emme .— unbelievable all very wet, but emme . bub— unbelievable all very wet, but tiring . but what— unbelievable all very wet, but tiring . but what a— " all very wet, but tiring . but what a spectacle. tiring. but what a spectacle. webeey— tiring. but what a spectacle. webeey mee— tiring. but what a spectacle. nobody else can— tiring. but what a spectacle. nobody else can do it better mem— nobody else can do it better mem we— nobody else can do it better mem em— nobody else can do it better than us, can they? we weren't ebbemmg — than us, can they? we weren't ebbemmg be— than us, can they? we weren't expecting to see— than us, can they? we weren't expecting to see them on the bebeemy. — expecting to see them on the bebeemy. we— expecting to see them on the balcony. we didn't- expecting to see them on the balcony. �*vw�*bz; : z " c "
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republic along with a number of other protesters— republic along with a number of other protesters lining the beeeeeebem— other protesters lining the procession route. republic had beeweweby— procession route. republic had previously promised to stage the bbggeeb— previously promised to stage the bbggeeb beebeeb— previously promised to stage the biggest protest against a mmem— biggest protest against a british monarch in modern mmem.— british monarch in modern history. protesters dressed in yebbew— history. protesters dressed in yebbew b— history. protesters dressed in yellow t shirts— history. protesters dressed in yellow t shirts demanded an ebeebee— yellow t shirts demanded an elected head— yellow t shirts demanded an elected head of— yellow t shirts demanded an elected head of state and said the elected head of state and said we beyeb— elected head of state and said the royal family— elected head of state and said the royal family has no place in memem— the royal family has no place in modern constitutional democracy. a wmmb— modern constitutional democracy. a wmmb eb— modern constitutional democracy. a number of just— modern constitutional democracy. a number of just stop oil beebeebme— a number of just stop oil protesters were - a number of just stop oil protesters were also detained. me— protesters were also detained. me wm— protesters were also detained. me web eeye— protesters were also detained. me web eeye e— protesters were also detained. the met says a total of 52 emeem— the met says a total of 52 arrests were _ the met says a total of 52 arrests were made . europe to arrests were made. europe to eme— arrests were made. europe to date em— arrests were made. europe to date em w— arrests were made. europe to date on tv online_ arrests were made. europe to date on tv online dab radio and on date on tv online dab radio and em mme— date on tv online dab radio and em bwme m— date on tv online dab radio and on tune in this— date on tv online dab radio and on tune in this is— date on tv online dab radio and on tune in this is .— on tune in this is. gb news. itodav_ on tune in this is. gb news. itoday we— on tune in this is. gb news. l today we were— on tune in this is. gb news. . today we were invited . on tune in this is. gb news.| - today we were invited to today we were invited to witness something of profound importance . promise an importance. a promise made an oath taken for those who care about the truth and oath is no small thing. an oath is a solemn appeal to god asking him to bear
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witness to a promise. but more revealing by far is how a person making a promise or taking an oath actually behaves. what they do a person might promise in a court law to the truth court of law to tell the truth on a battlefield , to be on a battlefield, to be steadfast comrades until steadfast to comrades until death . but the of the death. but the proof of the pudding in how the taker of pudding lies in how the taker of the oath lives their life. it would been easy to be would have been easy to be distracted pageantry distracted today by pageantry and the music and and pomp. all the music and marching. the name of the marching. that's the name of the game day like today. razzle game on a day like today. razzle dazzle the heart of dazzle them. but the heart of the of the coronation of the matter of the coronation of king iii, like grain king charles iii, like the grain of sand at the heart of a pearl, was a promise. the king's promise to the people, promise to us, the people, charles promised and to charles promised and swore to govern. of this govern. the people of this united kingdom great britain united kingdom of great britain and ireland. according and northern ireland. according to and customs , the to our laws and customs, the laws and customs in question are not the endless pages of legislation drafted and enacted by today and gone tomorrow. by here today and gone tomorrow. politicians in parliament. but the law, the law that is old beyond the reach of memory , beyond the reach of memory, which is to say the immutable law of the which is the law of the land, which is the common law that by centuries, if not by millennia, predates any
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legislation and enacted legislation drafted and enacted by parliament in westminster by any parliament in westminster . for the of this land of . for the law of this land of ours is that we are free people . we don't stand in line to receive our freedom bit by bit, like breadcrumbs dropped from on high on the contrary, we are born free and war should betide any that seeks to compromise that freedom . the intention of that freedom. the intention of the common law is that we govern ourselves with minimal interference from the state. knowing as we do right from wrong . in an ideal world, we wrong. in an ideal world, we tell the state what to do. enabung tell the state what to do. enabling them as so many administrators we appoint as our most esteemed servants, those we trust to preserve our freedom. implicit in our employment of them as servants is the understanding that if they fail , we reserve the right to be done with them and find others better suited. if you doubt me, see, for example, the declaration of arbroath of 1320 that most defiant assertion of freedom, the spirit of which went around the world and back again here in britain, we are ianed again here in britain, we are invited to trust that we live in what's called a constitutional
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monarchy . in what's called a constitutional monarchy. in our what's called a constitutional monarchy . in our constitutional monarchy. in our constitutional monarchy, the monarch is our most senior public servant. each of us is a sovereign individual. our monarch is also sovereign. the first sovereign among equals . and he is our servant. in 1688, on the accession of king william of orange, the parliament of the day had the treasonous temerity to claim that it the parliament was sovereign. ever since then , some sovereign. ever since then, some parliamentarians have repeated the lie that parliament is sovereign , when in fact our sovereign, when in fact our constitution makes plain only the people are sovereign. the constitution and the natural law that long predates the constitution puts sovereignty utterly beyond the reach of parliament for all time . parliament for all time. parliament can no more attain sovereignty than touch the face of god before and after 1688. and then the bill of rights of 1689. when parliament after another sought to claim sovereign over the people all have lied by so doing. i've said it before and i'll say it again without fear of contradiction, and because it must be repeated until enough people realise the
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significance it is only and always the people that are sovereign. today we watched and listened as king charles iii, promised to govern. according to the law, which is to say, our ancient common he thereby ancient common law. he thereby promised to defend our sovereignty as individuals and the sovereignty of this britain implicit in his promise before god is that he understands and believes that britain is sovereign and that he as monarch , will keep it so untroubled by the interference of outsiders. great and small, not to put too fine a point on it by outsider, great and small. i mean the usual suspect us, the wef, the un, the w.h.o, usual suspect us, the wef, the un, the who, and the rest of the international acronym gangs . those are unelected, unaccountable bodies, all seeking a hand in ruling over this country and all countries under the terms of an amended pandemic preparedness treaty. the w.h.o. pandemic preparedness treaty. the who. would award itself jaw dropping powers. it proposes to empower itself to declare pandemics or states of climate emergency , and then to lock us emergency, and then to lock us
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down and impose whatever other restrictions on our freedom that they see fit. this is what i mean about profound importance by his coronation oath. king charles sought to maintain the integrity of britain and to protect that integrity against any external entity. he promised that we would remain free. so far, so sovereign. but all of this begs a question are we a sovereign people or not? are we still an independent entity with meaningful borders and supported by the commitment of our government to maintain the independence and sovereignty that our monarch swore to defend this afternoon i ask this question because considering what's been going on in recent years, a person would be forgiven for doubting that nafion forgiven for doubting that nation states in the west, at least, are still a thing. today of all days, coronation day, it seems appropriate to think about all this. if we are free people of the sort. king charles just swore to defend. according to our law, if there are any nation states in the west, why did we so recently ? listen to that, so recently? listen to that, charles? then prince of wales and to the throne talk
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and heir to the throne talk about we should build back about how we should build back better in the days and better in the same days and weeks that the prince of wales talked about the need to build back better, so one western back better, so did one western leader . if is leader after another. if this is a world independent sovereign a world of independent sovereign states, earth did come states, how on earth did it come to pass that they all apparently had the same thought, called for the exactly the the same things at exactly the same time as though they were in lock reading the lock step and reading from the same script . and if there was same script. and if there was a script for the leaders the script for the leaders of the west wrote it , build back west who wrote it, build back better, a narrow window of opportunity. the great reset . opportunity. the great reset. but how come so many leaders have allegedly sovereign nations but how come so many leaders have e'thejedly sovereign nations but how come so many leaders have (the same;overeign nations but how come so many leaders have (the same wordsgn nations but how come so many leaders have (the same words at nations but how come so many leaders have (the same words at the ons but how come so many leaders have (the same words at the same spoke the same words at the same time? king charles, when he was prince of wales, stood shoulder to shoulder those calling to shoulder with those calling for reset build back for the great reset build back better . and he undoubtedly better. and he has undoubtedly been an outspoken globalist committed to the notion of centralised control and decision making. today he swore an oath to govern, to according the law of this land of britain. this sovereign nation of britain promises matter. as i've already said , what matters most is not said, what matters most is not what a person says, but what
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matters more what a person matters more is what a person does as net zero digital id decs social credit scores. surveillance society's 15 minute cities. the policies pursued by all those unelected , all those unelected, unaccountable bodies, all of those are erosions of our freedom . it turns out, building freedom. it turns out, building back better isn't better at all. not for the likes of you and me. ihave not for the likes of you and me. i have no time at all for republicanism. by the way, elected heads of state, which almost inevitably means expulsion . ocean's that way lies expulsion. ocean's that way lies president blair. president johnson. president starmer. the fundamental problem and threat of politicians as heads of state is that they are creatures of the politics from which they spnng the politics from which they spring like gargoyles on the walls of a cathedral hall. in an imperfect world populated by imperfect world populated by imperfect people. i would make the hobson's a the hobson's choice of a constitutional monarchy every time. of a monarchy of time. the point of a monarchy of hereditary peers as well is that they are theoretically at least invested in the long term. governments come and go with their egos, petty points, scoring and manifestos focussed
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always on political expediency . always on political expediency. the hope of winning the next election . but for good or ill, election. but for good or ill, the upper house and the monarch are consider the are supposed to consider the impact 50 years from now, a hundred years from now. theory hinckley they see to the planting of the trees that will provide necessary shade for provide the necessary shade for our grandchildren . any our great grandchildren. any government given the government will, given the freedom to do so. draft legislation that will enable it to do whatever it wants. any government will put itself in a position from which it cannot be challenged removed. challenged or removed. but there's question worth there's another question worth considering government considering should a government have the power do what it have the power to do what it wants or not? if you think not, then it's worth looking again at what was attempted that what was attempted by that parliament 1688, when the parliament of 1688, when the most clique in the most ambitious clique in the land seized the opportunity to put the monarch and put itself above the monarch and therefore above all of us long ago, long before magna carta or any other written document, our ancestors understood that individual freedoms were paramount. the constitution that evolved here in britain, making us a nation of sovereign individuals, reflects that ancient wisdom governments can
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seek to paper over it all. they want to tell us this or that. part of the constitution has been superseded by an act of parliament. they can even pretend constitution isn't pretend the constitution isn't there. can distract us with there. they can distract us with marching bands, bunting and flags . but the remains. and flags. but the fact remains. and today of all days, it's worth remembering, if shouting remembering, if not shouting from rooftops, we are free from the rooftops, we are free people much is inalienable people that much is inalienable and undeniable . and if and undeniable. and if a coronation like today's is to mean anything at all, then it reaffirm that freedom and promises it will last forever. so i ask again, are we a constitutional monarchy in a way that means anything , or are we that means anything, or are we not? are we a democracy? and having the vote every few years is not democracy in any meaningful sense? or are we not? people will tell you we don't have a constitution here in britain and in the us. people hold up their constitution like captain america's shield. in the end, you might even say no constitution is required . in the constitution is required. in the end, it's about right and wrong . truth and lies. and we all know the difference. but our constitution exist , and it
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constitution does exist, and it carefully puts ultimate power beyond the reach of government or usurper . our or any other usurper. our constitution enshrines ultimate power where it belongs with the people . to anyone who says our people. to anyone who says our constitution was superseded by the any government, the act of any government, i ask, do you accept our government can gather unto itself power to whatever itself the power to do whatever itself the power to do whatever it answer is yes. it likes. the answer is yes. theni it likes. the answer is yes. then i say you accept despotism and tyranny. here's the thing. i want someone somewhere to respect us enough to tell us the truth about britain today. then we'll know where we stand. do the powers that be truly regard us as free people living in a sovereign nation? or do they not? not today of all days. it's not? not today of all days. it's not much to ask . all of not too much to ask. all of that's my opinion, of course. and you're free to disagree. keep the tweets and emails coming all through the show. you can email gbviews@gbnews.uk and you can tweet me as well at gb news. and i'll get to some of your comments later in the show. if time permits . joining me
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if time permits. joining me tonight, broadcaster and lawyer andrew andrew are we andrew eborn. andrew are we a sovereign nation ? well, i think sovereign nation? well, i think it's fascinating— sovereign nation? well, i think it's fascinating your— ”c: g“ c well, i think it's fascinating your summary of wmm-e— it's fascinating your summary of were bweb— it's fascinating your summary of what's just happened today. it's fascinating your summary of what's just happened today . and what's just happened today. and one what's just happened today. and eb— what's just happened today. and eb me— what's just happened today. and one of the phrases— what's just happened today. and one of the phrases that charles, king— one of the phrases that charles, now king charles,— one of the phrases that charles, now king charles, crowned as we ebeeb— now king charles, crowned as we ebeeb ee— now king charles, crowned as we ebeeb ef— now king charles, crowned as we speak, one of the— now king charles, crowned as we speak, one of the phrases they be— speak, one of the phrases they be me— speak, one of the phrases they use is he's not— speak, one of the phrases they use is he's not here to be emweeb— use is he's not here to be eeweeb bwb— use is he's not here to be served, but to _ use is he's not here to be served, but to serve. and to yew— served, but to serve. and to yew bebm— served, but to serve. and to your point about— served, but to serve. and to your point about whether a eeeebmg— your point about whether a sovereign nation or whether we beve— sovereign nation or whether we bewe bee — sovereign nation or whether we bewe free web— sovereign nation or whether we have free will, the— sovereign nation or whether we have free will, the reality is we gm— have free will, the reality is we geb be — have free will, the reality is we get to choose- have free will, the reality is we get to choose once every four yeme— we get to choose once every four yeme eme— we get to choose once every four yeme and men— we get to choose once every four years and then we're under a bbebebeeebbb, — years and then we're under a dictatorship, if— years and then we're under a dictatorship, if you like, for meb— dictatorship, if you like, for bbeb bew— dictatorship, if you like, for that four year— dictatorship, if you like, for that four year period. so you're mem. — that four year period. so you're mem. abb— that four year period. so you're mem. au eb— that four year period. so you're right. all of our— that four year period. so you're right. all of our freedoms, if you— right. all of our freedoms, if yew bbe— right. all of our freedoms, if yew be, we— right. all of our freedoms, if you like, we give— right. all of our freedoms, if you like, we give away during meb— you like, we give away during bbeb bew— you like, we give away during that four year— you like, we give away during that four year period. but do bbewgb— that four year period. but do we, though, oughtn't we to be gewemee— we, though, oughtn't we to be governed ourselves for by membe— governed ourselves for by example, trial— governed ourselves for by example, trial by jury , where example, trial by jury, where we— example, trial by jury, where bbe bwebbee— example, trial by jury, where the justice of— example, trial by jury, where the justice of the law is judged as the justice of the law is judged ee webb— the justice of the law is judged ee web we— the justice of the law is judged as well as the— the justice of the law is judged as well as the guilt or innocence— as well as the guilt or innocence of- as well as the guilt or innocence of the person brought bebeee— innocence of the person brought bebeee meb— innocence of the person brought before that court— innocence of the person brought before that court and that jury, wbeb— before that court and that jury, wbeb beebbe— before that court and that jury, what people would say is that you— what people would say is that yew judge— what people would say is that you judge basically by the beam— you judge basically by the ballot-that's- you judge basically by the ballot that's when you're ballot box. that's when you're ebbewee— ballot box. that's when you're ebbeweelbe— ballot box. that's when you're allowed.do.and- ballot box. that's when you're allowed do and your point allowed to do it. and your point ebewb— allowed to do it. and your point about politicians— allowed to do it. and your point about politicians is— allowed to do it. and your point about politicians is they're in the about politicians is they're in bbe—gebbmg- the business of getting re—elected._ the business of getting re—elected. have re—elected. so you need to have emb—
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re—elected. so you need to have some sort-stability,- re—elected. so you need to have some sort stability, if you some sort of stability, if you be— some sort of stability, if you bbelbbe— some sort of stability, if you like,.the nation.- some sort of stability, if you like, the nation. and that's like, for the nation. and that's why— like, for the nation. and that's wbylbbmb— like, for the nation. and that's wbylbbmb bbe— like, for the nation. and that's why think the sovereign why i think the sovereign i mean,-powers- mean, the powers that the eemebm— mean, the powers that the sovereign-are. mean, the powers that the- sovereign-are limited sovereign now have are limited in sovereign now have are limited m eemmbbeem— sovereign now have are limited in comparison they used to in comparison what they used to beve— in comparison what they used to have—eee.- in comparison what they used to beve—ege-bel have generations ago. and to a memb— have generations ago. and to a meeb exbemb, — have generations ago. and to a great extent, there are figurehead. _ great extent, there are figurehead. it's great for our bewbem— figurehead. it's great for our bewbem . — figurehead. it's great for our tourism . oughtn't- figurehead. it's great for our tourism . g c tourism. oughtn't we to have that restraint on government power in the form of a constitutional monarchy if indeed we live in a constitution , monarchy that otherwise a government will legislate and put itself in a position of absolute power? well, that's the bbbbbewbby— absolute power? well, that's the difficulty about— absolute power? well, that's the difficulty about what— ”7’ well, that's the difficulty about what they're eeymg — difficulty about what they're eeymg -yee- difficulty about what they're saying you've got every saying is that you've got every bew— saying is that you've got every few-beve— saying is that you've got every four-have that- saying is that you've got every four have that choice four years you have that choice .—bem-b- four years you have that choice ._don't deliver,l . and if people don't deliver, mem— . and if people don't deliver, mem-beve— . and if people don't deliver, then-have the- . and if people don't deliver, then have the ability to get then you have the ability to get rid then you have the ability to get me eb— then you have the ability to get me eb mem.— then you have the ability to get rid of them. but— then you have the ability to get rid of them. but during that bmbeb— rid of them. but during that period—give- rid of them. but during that. period—give them rid of them. but during that- period_give them the period you need to give them the bewm— period you need to give them the bewm m— period you need to give them the bewm b yew— period you need to give them the power. if you like.— period you need to give them the power. if you like. you're eeeme— power. if you like. you're ceding power— power. if you like. you're ceding power during that four year— ceding power during that four yem bmbeb— ceding power during that four yem bmbee be— ceding power during that four year period to them effect year period to make them effect bewe—eeeb- year period to make them effect bewe—eeeb ebl laws and bring in that sort of emmem— laws and bring in that sort of ancient tradition,— laws and bring in that sort of ancient tradition, invested bewm—ml ancient tradition, invested. bewm—m ewmy power in the people in every memem— power in the people in every memem eb— power in the people in every moment of every— power in the people in every moment of every by trial, by moment of every day by trial, by jury— moment of every day by trial, by jury ,— moment of every day by trial, by jury lwbbeb— moment of every day by trial, by jury lwbbeblb— moment of every day by trial, by jury lwbbeblb eey- moment of every day by trial, by jury , which, i say, the jury, by which, as i say, the meme— jury, by which, as i say, the bwebbee eb— jury, by which, as i say, the justice of the— jury, by which, as i say, the justice of the law itself was judged— justice of the law itself was judged m— justice of the law itself was judged m ewmy— justice of the law itself was judged in every case. '“b: c judged in every case. and it's by web— judged in every case. and it's by that application of people power that we restrain the legislative who would otherwise just write, enact and punish in
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the light of whatever laws they see. but you've also to give beebbe— see. but you've also to give beebbe e— see. but you've also to give people a relevant- but you've also to give people a relevant period of time in people a relevant period of time be eeem— people a relevant period of time be mem be— people a relevant period of time in order to effect— people a relevant period of time in order to effect certain mmbe.— in order to effect certain bbmge. bew— in order to effect certain things. you cannot govern. not ewmybeby— things. you cannot govern. not ewmybeey em— things. you cannot govern. not everybody can govern because bbme-b— everybody can govern because bbme-b be— everybody can govern because there'd be complete chaos. you meeb— there'd be complete chaos. you need—delegate- there'd be complete chaos. youi need—delegate some need to basically delegate some emb— need to basically delegate some eebb eb— need to basically delegate some sort of responsibility for emewme— sort of responsibility for ensuring fundamental ensuring those fundamental bbmge— ensuring those fundamental things because— ensuring those fundamental things because otherwise it just wewbem-b— things because otherwise it just wewbem-b-bbe— things because otherwise it just wouldn't the reality. so wouldn't work is the reality. so meb-e— wouldn't work is the reality. so bbeb-e—beymg- wouldn't work is the reality. so bbeb-e—beymg be- wouldn't work is the reality. so that's—trying to do.| that's what we're trying to do. meb-e— that's what we're trying to do. mmbe-me— that's what we're trying to do. that's the electorate that's where the electorate sort of that's where the electorate sort eb—eebb- that's where the electorate sort eb—eebb eb- that's where the electorate sort of_sort of basis. of works on that sort of basis. meb-e— of works on that sort of basis. that's-democracy- that's where democracy should webb— that's where democracy should webb-webbmg- work, but it's working every bew— work, but it's working every few yeme — work, but it's working every four years. .as- work, but it's working every four years. .as i- work, but it's working every four years. as i say, you've four years. and as i say, you've got— four years. and as i say, you've geb e— four years. and as i say, you've got a democratic— four years. and as i say, you've got a democratic right that bmbeb. — got a democratic right that bmbee. bwb— got a democratic right that period. but once four period. but once every four yewe— period. but once every four yeme .— period. but once every four yeme . eee— period. but once every four years i see every four years bem-b— years i see every four years ebb-ememm.- years i see every four years bem-b-emewgb. - years i see every four years isn't enough. "cbir isn't good enough. after the meeb.— isn't good enough. after the break, joined by family isn't good enough. after the break, kat joined by family isn't good enough. after the break, kat lindley, by family isn't good enough. after the break, kat lindley, president physician kat lindley, president of texas the of the texas branch of the american academy physicians american academy of physicians and surgeon she recently and a surgeon. she has recently returned european returned from the european parliament, and we'll be discussing her what went discussing with her what went on. in a few minutes
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the uk. this is this is gb news radio the uk. this is gb news radio ebew— the uk. this is gb news radio ebew .— the uk. this is gb news radio show . welcome— the uk. this is gb news radio show . welcome back- this is gb news radio show . welcome back to neil show. welcome back to neil ebwm— show. welcome back to neil ebwm bye— show. welcome back to neil oliver live now— show. welcome back to neil oliver live now ,_ show. welcome back to neil oliver live now , what are the oliver live now, what are the bmbbeebbeme— oliver live now, what are the implications of— oliver live now, what are the implications of proposed
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amendments— implications of proposed amendments to the world health emembeebbem— amendments to the world health organisation pandemic preparedness treaty? ' “b: organisation pandemic preparedness treaty? ' “z preparedness treaty? and what, if anything, does it mean for us here in britain? my first guest this evening is dr. kat lindley, joining us all the way from the united states of america . are united states of america. are you there, kat ? ah, there you you there, kat? ah, there you are. i'm here. kat. first of all, tell me about the team of which you were a part at and the meetings in the eu parliament. what you were doing there . well what you were doing there. well so we were in brussels on wednesday at the invitation of a mep from croatia , miros mislav mep from croatia, miros mislav kolakusic ivan sincic , kristin kolakusic ivan sincic, kristin anderson from germany , francesca anderson from germany, francesca donato from italy and mep from romania. mr terry and they mmbee— romania. mr terry and they mwbeb we— romania. mr terry and they invited us to— t“ mr terry and they invited us to present on what's bebbemmg— invited us to present on what's bebbemme emb— invited us to present on what's bebbemme emeb .— invited us to present on what's happening and i gave testimony ebewb— happening and i gave testimony ebewb meb— happening and i gave testimony about that w.h.o. _ happening and i gave testimony about that w.h.o. pandemic bbeeby— about that w.h.o. pandemic bbeeby emb— about that w.h.o. pandemic treaty and the— about that w.h.o. pandemic treaty and the echr amendments. wbeb— treaty and the echr amendments. wbeb ememm— treaty and the echr amendments. what concerns specifically- treaty and the echr amendments. what concerns specifically where you raising about this much
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vaunted amendment to the treaty . so i hope that everyone really bbebeme— . so i hope that everyone really bebeme emb— . so i hope that everyone really listens and hears— so i hope that everyone really listens and hears what you're eeymm— listens and hears what you're saying, because— listens and hears what you're saying, because freedom is our bbbbbmgbb— saying, because freedom is our bbbbmbgbb mew— saying, because freedom is our birthright now ,_ saying, because freedom is our birthright now , if— saying, because freedom is our birthright now , if w.h.o. birthright now, if w.h.o. bembembe— birthright now, if w.h.o. pandemic treaty or the amendments- pandemic treaty or the amendments passed next may, that web-b— amendments passed next may, that went be— amendments passed next may, that went be me— amendments passed next may, that won't be the case— amendments passed next may, that won't be the case for— amendments passed next may, that won't be the case for most of se— won't be the case for most of se me— won't be the case for most of be be m— won't be the case for most of us. so far in these- won't be the case for most of us. so far in these past three yewe— us. so far in these past three yeme wbe— us. so far in these past three years, who would— us. so far in these past three years, who would give recommendations on what happens if recommendations on what happens bb bbme— recommendations on what happens bb bbme be— recommendations on what happens bb bbme be em— recommendations on what happens if there is an outbreak, a bemeembe— if there is an outbreak, a pandemic or— if there is an outbreak, a pandemic or something ? if this pandemic or something? if this is pandemic or something? if this be beeeeeb— pandemic or something? if this be beeeeeb bb— pandemic or something? if this is passed, it will— pandemic or something? if this is passed, it will not be recommendations anymore. it's going— recommendations anymore. it's gebme be— recommendations anymore. it's going be be— recommendations anymore. it's going to be mandatory obligations— going to be mandatory obligations .- going to be mandatory obligations . and w.h.o. director obligations. and w.h.o. director gemmeb— obligations. and w.h.o. director gemmeb wbbb— obligations. and w.h.o. director general will they— obligations. and w.h.o. director general will they will have bewm— general will they will have bewmbe— general will they will have power to actually proclaim wbebbm— power to actually proclaim whether the _ power to actually proclaim whether the country needs to ebeee— whether the country needs to ebeee bbe— whether the country needs to close the borders, what type of meebeebbeme— close the borders, what type of medications, tests— close the borders, what type of medications, tests , future medications, tests, future we— medications, tests, future vaccines. we can use . they will vaccines. we can use. they will wee— vaccines. we can use. they will ebee beewbe— vaccines. we can use. they will also require all— vaccines. we can use. they will also require all our— vaccines. we can use. they will also require all our member ebebee— also require all our member ebebee be— also require all our member states to give— also require all our member states to give up— also require all our member states to give up to 5% of their beebbb— states to give up to 5% of their beebbb bwbgeb— states to give up to 5% of their health budget to— states to give up to 5% of their health budget to the who. beee— health budget to the who. because they _ health budget to the who. because they need that money to
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eebwebby— because they need that money to eebwebby bbme— because they need that money to actually kind of— because they need that money to actually kind of administer this new bureaucracy— actually kind of administer this new bureaucracy that they're beybmg — new bureaucracy that they're beybmg be — new bureaucracy that they're trying to create— new bureaucracy that they're trying to create the bottom line bem— trying to create the bottom line bbem ew— trying to create the bottom line from our standpoint, the way the mmbee— from our standpoint, the way the wmbbee sbebee— from our standpoint, the way the united states is— from our standpoint, the way the united states is looking at it is united states is looking at it be we— united states is looking at it be we beet— united states is looking at it is we feel that— united states is looking at it is we feel that the nations will beee— is we feel that the nations will lose sovereignty.— is we feel that the nations will lose sovereignty. at least we wbbb— lose sovereignty. at least we wbbb beee— lose sovereignty. at least we will lose rights— lose sovereignty. at least we will lose rights on how they can bmbbememb— will lose rights on how they can bmbbememb my— will lose rights on how they can implement any strategies, wbebbm— implement any strategies, whether there— implement any strategies, whether there is a new pandemic or whether there is a new pandemic eb meb.— whether there is a new pandemic or not. everything— whether there is a new pandemic or not. everything will be done ebebebeb— or not. everything will be done ebebebeb by— or not. everything will be done dictated by who. on a day like bebey— dictated by who. on a day like bebey m— dictated by who. on a day like today in britain,— dictated by who. on a day like today in britain, the coronation eewmebgmby— today in britain, the coronation eewmebgmby .— today in britain, the coronation eewmebgmby, b— today in britain, the coronation sovereignty , i would contend, sovereignty, i would contend, ebewbb— sovereignty, i would contend, ebewbb be— sovereignty, i would contend, should be uppermost in people's mmbme— should be uppermost in people's bbbmbbmg . — should be uppermost in people's thinking. will— should be uppermost in people's thinking. will this— should be uppermost in people's thinking . �*fbb�* cc b:bib gbic thinking. will this do you get the impression and would it be true to say that this these amendments have teeth? it's all very. well, the who. making a commandment from on high. but do they have the teeth to make, say, britain go along with what's being ordered . i really what's being ordered. i really think that your— what's being ordered. i really think that your mps- “g 3: i really think that your mps need to ebmb— think that your mps need to ebmb beebbme— think that your mps need to start looking into this because the start looking into this because bbe bebbe— start looking into this because bbe bebbe bbe— start looking into this because the echr, the international beebbb— the echr, the international health regulations, they are pari— health regulations, they are bebb eb— health regulations, they are bebb eb em—
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health regulations, they are part of an international law bbm— part of an international law bbeb ew— part of an international law that our countries have already wbebbeeb— that our countries have already wbebbeeb se— that our countries have already adopted. so these— that our countries have already adopted. so these amendments, if bbey-be— adopted. so these amendments, if bbey-be beeeeb— adopted. so these amendments, if bbey-be beeeeb .— adopted. so these amendments, if they're passed , we— adopted. so these amendments, if they're passed , we do feel that they're passed, we do feel that bbme— they're passed, we do feel that bbme be— they're passed, we do feel that there is danger— they're passed, we do feel that there is danger that they could be implemented.— there is danger that they could be implemented. but because, you mew,— be implemented. but because, you know, our leader— be implemented. but because, you know, our leader can— be implemented. but because, you know, our leader can just sign bbem — know, our leader can just sign bbem eb— know, our leader can just sign bbem eb bbey— know, our leader can just sign them or they actually could be them or they actually could be bbe beee— them or they actually could be bbe beee eb— them or they actually could be the head of hhs,— them or they actually could be the head of hhs, which is health and bwmem— the head of hhs, which is health and human services for us. the ebbm— and human services for us. the other instrument— and human services for us. the other instrument is— and human services for us. the other instrument is pandemic beeby— other instrument is pandemic treaty, pandemic— other instrument is pandemic treaty, pandemic treaty needs to be bebbbbeb — treaty, pandemic treaty needs to be bebbbbeb m— treaty, pandemic treaty needs to be ratified in senate in the wmbbeb— be ratified in senate in the united states— be ratified in senate in the united states by two thirds of the united states by two thirds of bbe webe. — united states by two thirds of bbe webe. bwb— united states by two thirds of the vote. but there is some eembembbem— the vote. but there is some contention that— the vote. but there is some contention that that actually ebee — contention that that actually can also bypass— contention that that actually can also bypass the senate . so can also bypass the senate. so i bbbmb— can also bypass the senate. so i bbbmb bbe— can also bypass the senate. so i think it's important— can also bypass the senate. so i think it's important that every eewmbby— think it's important that every eewmbey beeke— think it's important that every country looks into how these bbbmee— country looks into how these bbbmee ee— country looks into how these things are going— country looks into how these things are going to be implemented , because i do think implemented, because i do think meb— implemented, because i do think bbeb bbme— implemented, because i do think bbeb bbme me— implemented, because i do think that there are back— implemented, because i do think that there are back doors. there is that there are back doors. there be bbebebby— that there are back doors. there is probably already legislation in is probably already legislation bm bbeee— is probably already legislation bm bbme-bb— is probably already legislation in place-it will- is probably already legislation in place it will be in place that it will be implemented. bear with me while i implemented. bear with me while b bring— implemented. bear with me while b bring m— implemented. bear with me while b bring be my— implemented. bear with me while i bring in my panellists here in the i bring in my panellists here in bbe ebwebe— i bring in my panellists here in bbe ebwbbe, e— i bring in my panellists here in the studio, a lawyer. ' “b: the studio, a lawyer. andrew, bew— the studio, a lawyer. andrew, bew ebe— the studio, a lawyer. andrew, bew we yew— the studio, a lawyer. andrew, how do you react to what dr. lindley is saying there? well, i've read the report and- “b:bi;b “g c well, i've read the report and i “bibib “g c well, i've read the report and i think it's i've read the report and i think bb-e bbe— i've read the report and i think bb-e bbe bbeeby— i've read the report and i think it's the treaty and— i've read the report and i think it's the treaty and i've read various diatribes on it. and beebeebby— various diatribes on it. and basically they're saying it's a webwmbmy— basically they're saying it's a voluntary treaty— basically they're saying it's a
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voluntary treaty which is in web— voluntary treaty which is in mm berm — voluntary treaty which is in mm berm .— voluntary treaty which is in draft form . there are a number draft form. there are a number of draft form. there are a number eb bbbmge— draft form. there are a number eb bbbmee bb— draft form. there are a number of things it says— draft form. there are a number of things it says about not bmbmbmbme— of things it says about not interfering with sovereignty in meb,— interfering with sovereignty in beeb, bbe— interfering with sovereignty in beeb, bbe very— interfering with sovereignty in fact, the very first of it, fact, the very first line of it, it reaffirms— fact, the very first line of it, it reaffirms the— fact, the very first line of it, it reaffirms the principle of eewmebgmby— it reaffirms the principle of sovereignty of— it reaffirms the principle of sovereignty of state parties in ebbreeebmg— sovereignty of state parties in addressing public health matters .—wbeb— addressing public health matters .—wbeb bb- addressing public health matters .—wbeb bb eeye- . i mean, that's what it says bbme.— . i mean, that's what it says there-dealing- . i mean, that's what it says there. dealing the there. and dealing with the ebbm— there. and dealing with the emm-amb- there. and dealing with the other-and-isl other points. and there is mewebe— other points. and there is mewebe m— other points. and there is nowhere in which talks nowhere in there which talks ebewb— nowhere in there which talks about lockdowns or closures, eembeeb— about lockdowns or closures, contact tracing _ about lockdowns or closures, contact tracing or online speech emeb— contact tracing or online speech emblem— contact tracing or online speech emblem emb— contact tracing or online speech emblem emb ee— contact tracing or online speech and on and so forth , as and so on and so forth, as i my.— and so on and so forth, as i my se— and so on and so forth, as i say. so looking— and so on and so forth, as i say. so looking at 32 page beewmemb— say. so looking at 32 page beewmemb .— say. so looking at 32 page document , i— say. so looking at 32 page document, i think we need to sby,— document, i think we need to my web— document, i think we need to my web, wbeb— document, i think we need to say, well, what does it actually say— say, well, what does it actually eey rebbm— say, well, what does it actually say rather than _ say, well, what does it actually say rather than what we think it mbbbb— say rather than what we think it mbbbb eey,— say rather than what we think it mbebbeeylewb. - say rather than what we think it might say, cut. /bibc ”c: might say, cut, cut. you're listening— might say, cut, cut. you're listening that. that sounds listening to that. that sounds as though sounds though we as though it sounds as though we don't have anything to worry about because sovereignty will always and this this is always be key and this this is the cleft stick i find myself in as a reasonable person paying attention. we about to lose attention. are we about to lose sovereignty or not? so i appreciate his ”c: g “bibcc so i appreciate his response, but i wewbb— appreciate his response, but i wewbb eey— appreciate his response, but i would say that— appreciate his response, but i would say that we actually need to would say that we actually need be be— would say that we actually need be be very— would say that we actually need to be very careful.— would say that we actually need to be very careful. there is a bbbbmemee— to be very careful. there is a difference between pandemic breeby— difference between pandemic breeby emb— difference between pandemic treaty and the— difference between pandemic treaty and the international beebbb— treaty and the international health regulation amendments in the amendments— health regulation amendments in the amendments themselves, there are several provisions that need
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to are several provisions that need be be— are several provisions that need be be very— are several provisions that need to be very concerning . they to be very concerning. they eebwebby— to be very concerning. they actually remove _ to be very concerning. they actually remove the whole line ebewb— actually remove the whole line ebewb bwmem— actually remove the whole line about human rights and start bebbbmb— about human rights and start talking about— about human rights and start talking about equity. they talk ebewb— talking about equity. they talk about creating— talking about equity. they talk about creating a— talking about equity. they talk about creating a censorship eembebbm— about creating a censorship eembebem em— about creating a censorship campaign on misinformation, disinformation— campaign on misinformation, disinformation ,_ campaign on misinformation, disinformation , an as i call it, disinformation, an as i call it, wbe— disinformation, an as i call it, w.h.o. version— disinformation, an as i call it, w.h.o. version of— disinformation, an as i call it, w.h.o. version of ministry of mm— w.h.o. version of ministry of brwbb .— w.h.o. version of ministry of brwbb . bbey— w.h.o. version of ministry of truth . they talk— w.h.o. version of ministry of truth . they talk about using truth. they talk about using bebbm— truth. they talk about using depher regulations and things to ebbrewe— depher regulations and things to ebbrewe bbe— depher regulations and things to ebbrewe bbe mme— depher regulations and things to approve the new products, and mm— approve the new products, and they definitely— approve the new products, and they definitely talk about that. t hey— they definitely talk about that. bbey ee— they definitely talk about that. they can decide— they definitely talk about that. they can decide what type of measures are _ they can decide what type of measures are implemented. if we bewe— measures are implemented. if we bewe ememm— measures are implemented. if we have another pandemic. also, the bbreeber— have another pandemic. also, the director general— have another pandemic. also, the director general can— have another pandemic. also, the director general can go into a remem— director general can go into a rebbem bb— director general can go into a region if there— director general can go into a region if there is— director general can go into a region if there is a perceived beebbb— region if there is a perceived health emergency, look at it. beebere— health emergency, look at it. beebere e— health emergency, look at it. declare a pandemic and then bebbmbbeby— declare a pandemic and then definitely close— declare a pandemic and then definitely close border closures emb— definitely close border closures and lockdowns— definitely close border closures and lockdowns .— definitely close border closures and lockdowns . so i respectfully and lockdowns. so i respectfully bbeebree— and lockdowns. so i respectfully bbeebree .— and lockdowns. so i respectfully bbeebree . b— and lockdowns. so i respectfully disagree . i appreciate his disagree. i appreciate his comments . but even let's say comments. but even let's say bbeb— comments. but even let's say bbeb rm— comments. but even let's say bbeb m e— comments. but even let's say that i'm a little _ comments. but even let's say that i'm a little bit too eewbbewe— that i'm a little bit too cautious and- that i'm a little bit too cautious and a little bit to werrbeb— cautious and a little bit to werrbeb, b— cautious and a little bit to worried, i think- cautious and a little bit to worried, i think we learned this beeb— worried, i think we learned this beeb bbree— worried, i think we learned this past three years— worried, i think we learned this past three years that it's bebbm— past three years that it's bebber be — past three years that it's better to be _ past three years that it's better to be on guard and look me— better to be on guard and look bmbe bbbe— better to be on guard and look bmbe bbbe ee— better to be on guard and look bmbe bbbe ee b— better to be on guard and look into this as i like— better to be on guard and look into this as i like to say, bebbm—
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into this as i like to say, bebber be— into this as i like to say, better be safe- into this as i like to say, better be safe than sorry. bbeebwbeby— better be safe than sorry. absolutely _ better be safe than sorry. absolutely dr. - better be safe than sorry. absolutely b “b:cbig absolutely dr. kat lindley, thank you so much for your time this evening. i have simply run out of time. such an important topic. thank you for your contribution this evening. now don't go away. we will continue this discussion shortly with vaccine dr. robert vaccine scientist dr. robert malone
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work out how britain moves forward from this. join us here on gb news. the welcome back. my on gb news. the welcome back. my next guest is dr. robert bbebeme— my next guest is dr. robert malone, e— my next guest is dr. robert malone, a scientist, author and bwbbbe— malone, a scientist, author and bwbbbe epeebm— malone, a scientist, author and public speaker, a— malone, a scientist, author and public speaker, a very familiar beee— public speaker, a very familiar beee emb— public speaker, a very familiar face and name— public speaker, a very familiar face and name for those who've been— face and name for those who've been following— face and name for those who've been following the— face and name for those who've been following the story of the cowb— been following the story of the covid pandemic— been following the story of the covid pandemic from the beebmbmey— covid pandemic from the beginning, and in particular, bbeee— beginning, and in particular, those listening— beginning, and in particular, those listening out for voices bbeb— those listening out for voices bbeb rem— those listening out for voices that ran counter— those listening out for voices that ran counter to the official memebbwe — that ran counter to the official narrative. welcome dr. robert bbebeme— narrative. welcome dr. robert bbebeme .— narrative. welcome dr. robert malone . thank— narrative. welcome dr. robert malone . thank you, neil. c malone. thank you, neil. it's eweb— malone. thank you, neil. it's eweb e— malone. thank you, neil. it's such a pleasure— malone. thank you, neil. it's such a pleasure to— malone. thank you, neil. it's such a pleasure to see- malone. thank you, neil. it's such a pleasure to see you again. i'm glad you're doing well and i'm glad you're still broadcast from gb news. i do my best. robert how it— broadcast from gb news. i do my best. robert how it feels- broadcast from gb news. i do my best. robert how it feels to- 31 c15 \ i do my best. robert how it feels to me
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wmbm— best. robert how it feels to me wmber bbe— best. robert how it feels to me under the terms— best. robert how it feels to me under the terms of— best. robert how it feels to me under the terms of this treaty bbeb— under the terms of this treaty bbeb were— under the terms of this treaty that we're moving inexorably bewerbe— that we're moving inexorably bewerbe e— that we're moving inexorably towards a one— that we're moving inexorably towards a one size fits all, one bewemmemb— towards a one size fits all, one government solution being sought to a multiverse_ government solution being sought to a multiverse problem. how do you to a multiverse problem. how do yew beer— to a multiverse problem. how do yew beeb ebewb— to a multiverse problem. how do you feel about that— to a multiverse problem. how do you feel about that direction of brewer?— you feel about that direction of brewebe se— you feel about that direction of travel? so the— you feel about that direction of travel? so the basic logic is bbeb— travel? so the basic logic is bbeb eb— travel? so the basic logic is bbeb eb e— travel? so the basic logic is that of a centralised global eemmeb— that of a centralised global command economy. “g command economy. i'm choosing werbe— command economy. i'm choosing words without that don't have a lot of burdens around them in terms of alternate meeting , in terms of alternate meeting, in terms of alternate meeting, in terms of alternate meeting, in terms of your conversation , a terms of your conversation, a moment with my friend kat, you asked about the potential enforcement arm. what i've heard proposed is that the world trade organisation would function as that enforcement arm for the world health organisation . so world health organisation. so the potential enforcement should a nation state, not comply with the mandate from mr tedros and it is let us be clear mr tedros can declare a public health
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emergency for any reason, and he can declare whatever measures he might deem appropriate . so the might deem appropriate. so the absence of specific measures in the 32 page document is irrelevant . but what it would irrelevant. but what it would grant is the ability to implement whatever measures should be deemed appropriate . it should be deemed appropriate. it would mr tedros , you might ask would mr tedros, you might ask yourself, act in an arbitrary and capricious manner. i suggest that the 9 to 6 vote against declaring a global health emergency arnie for the recent monkeypox outbreak , which was monkeypox outbreak, which was overruled by mr tedros as a tie which he then personally broke and declared that it was such a global emergency , provides one global emergency, provides one a window into the decision making process which i would characterise as arbitrary and capricious. but that's my personal opinion . my opinion is personal opinion. my opinion is that we are in very dangerous
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territory . there is this set of territory. there is this set of documents which are not a conspiracy theory having to do with the global reset, the desire to advance a fourth industrial revolution , the industrial revolution, the desire to advance a transhumanism agenda . and transhumanism agenda. and unfortunately the inconven vant truth is that this issue of a reset great reset was first discussed in public to the best of my knowledge, by your recently coordinated king, not by the leadership of the world economic forum. please let's also recall that the world economic forum has some sort of surreptitious peace treaty with the united nations , and the united nations, and apparently through that with the world health organisation and is providing significant funding , providing significant funding, which funding is not disclosed to the public. so we don't really know what is going on behind the scenes, what funds
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transfers are occurring , what transfers are occurring, what the channels of influence are. we do know these documents , arts we do know these documents, arts and artefacts that we can find , and artefacts that we can find, such as klaus btec , klaus such as klaus btec, klaus schwab's book the great reset , schwab's book the great reset, and the great narrative of those are publicly available . we do are publicly available. we do have the statements aukus from your. have the statements aukus from your . new do have the statements aukus from your. new do believe that we are in a situation in which, for instance, the british nudge unit and your 77th brigade have been willing to deploy psychological operations , weapons on their operations, weapons on their citizenry . this operations, weapons on their citizenry. this is operations, weapons on their citizenry . this is technology citizenry. this is technology designed for offshore combat for psyops or cyber combat . they've psyops or cyber combat. they've deployed it on your population by their own statements . and i by their own statements. and i argue that in an environment in which a government, even if it's only for a four year period, feels that it's acceptable to
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deploy these advanced psychological operations, technology on their citizens, the concept of sovereignty is obsolete . it's an anachronism . obsolete. it's an anachronism. but bear with me, dr. malone. bmbrew— but bear with me, dr. malone. andrew eborn,_ but bear with me, dr. malone. andrew eborn, how do you respond to andrew eborn, how do you respond be bbebe— andrew eborn, how do you respond be bbebe b— andrew eborn, how do you respond be bbebe b mew— andrew eborn, how do you respond to that? i know how— andrew eborn, how do you respond to that? i know how what you eebb— to that? i know how what you eebb ebewb— to that? i know how what you said about what— to that? i know how what you said about what kat linley had to said about what kat linley had be eey,— said about what kat linley had be my bwb— said about what kat linley had be my bwb bb— said about what kat linley had to say, but it seems like what beerbmb— to say, but it seems like what we're hearing again, is this beeebbbbbby— we're hearing again, is this possibility that— we're hearing again, is this possibility that there a very possibility that there is a very reeb— possibility that there is a very reeb bbreeb— possibility that there is a very real threat to— possibility that there is a very real threat to sovereignty. ' “b: real threat to sovereignty. and it's absolutely— real threat to sovereignty. and it's absolutely -we i it's absolutely right that we ask questions. i always ask these questions. i always say question everything, but let's facts and the let's look at the facts and the right answer. those right people to answer. those are in the are those involved in the discussion. would also make discussion. i would also make the that it's a draft the point that it's a draft document so these document. so all of these concerns need to be addressed to make the protection. make sure we get the protection. but just deal with that but let me just deal with that one it it doesn't one point. it says it doesn't overwrite. so the associated press, they asked the us department health human department of health and human services confirmed it services and they confirmed it is claim that the world is false to claim that the world health organisation has now or will these will have by virtue of these activities, authority activities, any authority to direct us health policy or national emergency national health emergency response the agency national health emergency resp
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member states are just that non binding. dr. malone listening to bbeb,— binding. dr. malone listening to bbeb, bew— binding. dr. malone listening to bbeb, bew bew— binding. dr. malone listening to that, how how is— binding. dr. malone listening to that, how how is a— “b: “3 dr. malone listening to that, how how is a person like myeebb— that, how how is a person like myeebr wbe-e— that, how how is a person like myself who's caught in the mbbbbe— myself who's caught in the mbbbbe eb— myself who's caught in the middle of all— myself who's caught in the middle of all this, listening to bebb— middle of all this, listening to bebb ebbee— middle of all this, listening to both sides to— middle of all this, listening to both sides to decide whether or notw— both sides to decide whether or meb, ee— both sides to decide whether or meb, ee yew — both sides to decide whether or meb, ee yew eey— both sides to decide whether or meb, ee yew eey .— both sides to decide whether or not, as you say , we're in real not, as you say, we're in real bebbm— not, as you say, we're in real bembm eb— not, as you say, we're in real bemem eb beee— not, as you say, we're in real danger of loss of— not, as you say, we're in real danger of loss of sovereignty , danger of loss of sovereignty, wbbbe— danger of loss of sovereignty, wbbbe em— danger of loss of sovereignty, while on the— danger of loss of sovereignty, while on the other hand, there are while on the other hand, there ebbm— while on the other hand, there are other-voices- are other strong voices and ememe— are other strong voices and strong opinions— are other strong voices and strong opinions saying it's non bbmbbmb— strong opinions saying it's non bbmbbmb emb— strong opinions saying it's non binding and nation states will ebweye— binding and nation states will ebweye bewe— binding and nation states will always have the— binding and nation states will always have the final say. how is someone like— always have the final say. how is someone like me to discern bbe— is someone like me to discern bbe brwbb— is someone like me to discern bbe brwbb e— is someone like me to discern the truth ? so— is someone like me to discern the truth ? so the— is someone like me to discern the truth ? so the earlier the truth? so the earlier eb— the truth? so the earlier version of the- the truth? so the earlier version of the draft absolutely bmbbeebeb— version of the draft absolutely indicated that— version of the draft absolutely indicated that it— version of the draft absolutely indicated that it was binding. bbbe— indicated that it was binding. bbbe be— indicated that it was binding. bbbe be new— indicated that it was binding. bbbe be e— indicated that it was binding. this is now a revised- indicated that it was binding. this is now a revised version consequent larger to objections from the african and latin american states, particularly brazil . there have been these brazil. there have been these revisions , as as correctly noted revisions, as as correctly noted , these are draft documents currently in negotiation. what we have seen is a chronic pattern of incrementalism . so pattern of incrementalism. so one sees this these types of language and you'll notice that the language that's been
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inserted now that differs from the prior draft of the echr, which the gentleman may or may not have referred to previously or reviewed. what we see is a softening of language in a very non—specific fashion. so we don't see specific statements that there will not be breaches of sovereignty , but rather we of sovereignty, but rather we see indications of intent . after see indications of intent. after the last three years. i personally, and i think many colleagues have become rather wary of soft statements of intent or good intent. we've come to the point where we believe that these these types of freedoms , these types of of freedoms, these types of internet , of freedoms, these types of internet, national treaties and agreements needed need to be stated very , very explicitly , stated very, very explicitly, lest they . be interpreted in the lest they. be interpreted in the context of some future event as
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being more permissive or promiscuous for more authoritarian responses than than we may have thought was their intention originally . in their intention originally. in other words, i mistrust statements that are soft and squishy. i want to see clear , squishy. i want to see clear, tangible statements explaining , tangible statements explaining, for instance, that the world health organisation does not have the authority to impose any restrictions on on, for instance, the british people , instance, the british people, all any mandates for what pharmaceuticals or medical interventions they shall take. there is no regulation on allowing the bypassing of your pubuc allowing the bypassing of your public health authority and its oversight. this is the type of language i want to see is clear and explicit, very was to overer speech from the world health organisation, such as we have seen with lockdowns masking and so many other things that have
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done such deep damage to the economics and the populace of your great country. thanks. thanks. your great country. thanks. bbembe. br. — your great country. thanks. thanks. dr. malone- your great country. thanks. thanks. dr. malone .- 1 gbiribc biwibc. thanks. thanks. dr. malone . andrew, 1 ifs/”cfc bibibc. thanks. thanks. dr. malone . andrew, is thanks. dr. malone. andrew, is it thanks. dr. malone. andrew, is bb wbeb— thanks. dr. malone. andrew, is bb wbem yew— thanks. dr. malone. andrew, is it when you listen— thanks. dr. malone. andrew, is it when you listen to that and ebeerby— it when you listen to that and ebeerby bbe— it when you listen to that and ebeerby be e— it when you listen to that and clearly it's a fast— it when you listen to that and clearly it's a fast moving or be— clearly it's a fast moving or be e— clearly it's a fast moving or it's a developing story, and do you— it's a developing story, and do yew beer— it's a developing story, and do yew beeb bb— it's a developing story, and do yew beeb bb be— it's a developing story, and do you feel it is possible that bbeee— you feel it is possible that these documents that were not bbreebby— these documents that were not directly referring _ these documents that were not directly referring to here may eebwebby— directly referring to here may eebwebby be— directly referring to here may actually be more— directly referring to here may actually be more troublesome? webb— actually be more troublesome? web b— actually be more troublesome? web b bbbmb— actually be more troublesome? well i think the— actually be more troublesome? well i think the actual documents— well i think the actual documents and that's why i say i wewbb— documents and that's why i say i wewbb wbe— documents and that's why i say i would urge everybody to start wbbb— would urge everybody to start wbbb bbe— would urge everybody to start with the document itself rather bbem— with the document itself rather than speculate. _ with the document itself rather than speculate. 15:2 3 with the document itself rather than speculate. 15:9 3 than speculate. so 32 pages you can read. doesn't take that can read. it doesn't take that long. language is long. the language is not mandatory language, which your guest it is guest was mentioning. it is encouragement recommendation. guest was mentioning. it is encourathatent recommendation. guest was mentioning. it is encourathat sort recommendation. guest was mentioning. it is encourathat sort of ecommendation. guest was mentioning. it is encourathat sort of softeningjation. so it is that sort of softening approach but you're right. approach. but you're right. let's raise the concerns. let's make sure i'm a lawyer. as you know, i like to have clarity in the documents. if there are these concerns. let's these ongoing concerns. let's get clarity in the get further clarity in the language erg. but at the moment, the 32 page document makes it clear that sovereignty remains and a lot of these fears are unfounded . that's what the unfounded. that's what the document dr. malone, document says. dr. malone, finally, do you feel that your
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overturning the apathy that has been out there, you know, the people don't seem general populations don't seem to be paying populations don't seem to be paying too much attention to this. do you see any shift of member— this. do you see any shift of breebbem bm— this. do you see any shift of traction in that? _ this. do you see any shift of traction in that? to- do you see any shift of traction in that? to be honest, that's very difficult to answer because i acknowledge that i am in a bubble . for instance, when in a bubble. for instance, when we testified for the third international covid summit in brussels earlier this week , brussels earlier this week, we're surrounded by mps and others interested parties, alternative media, that is all of a similar frame of mind to those of us that were speaking to the dominant party in romania is also of that opinion . but is also of that opinion. but thatis is also of that opinion. but that is not a universal opinion and is there a shift? it appears that there has been a major political shift in australia . it political shift in australia. it appears that the changes in covid policy in switzerland . and
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covid policy in switzerland. and the new data about what the effects of the various policies have been in sweden compared to the rest of europe suggests that there is increased building momentum . my sense is there's momentum. my sense is there's much more momentum in the european continent . as was european continent. as was recently noted, the polling in the uk suggested that if lockdown was a party, it would win. going away . and so i really win. going away. and so i really can't infer more about the population in great britain than i do sense that there is some shift in momentum . but i don't shift in momentum. but i don't want to become overly enthusiastic prematurely. it's so important that that ibbieri it's so important that that you 3~3cb1 it's so important that that you raise the so important that that you raise bbe ewbbeeb— so important that that you raise the subject and— so important that that you raise the subject and that you keep bwebbmb— the subject and that you keep bwebbme bbbe— the subject and that you keep pushing this this— the subject and that you keep pushing this this in front of us for pushing this this in front of us ber ew— pushing this this in front of us for our consideration . i've run for our consideration. i've run ewb— for our consideration. i've run ewb eb— for our consideration. i've run ewb eb bbme— for our consideration. i've run out of time again,— for our consideration. i've run out of time again, dr. robert bbebeme— out of time again, dr. robert malone, thank— out of time again, dr. robert malone, thank you so much for yew— malone, thank you so much for yewr bbme.— malone, thank you so much for your time. after— malone, thank you so much for your time. after the break, webb— your time. after the break, we-bb be— your time. after the break, we'll be speaking to a public bew— we'll be speaking to a public law barrister— we'll be speaking to a public law barrister who may or may not be ebbe— law barrister who may or may not be ebbe be— law barrister who may or may not be able to reassure— law barrister who may or may not be able to reassure me that the wbe— be able to reassure me that the wbo-beeee— be able to reassure me that the
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wto poses nothing we need wto treaty poses nothing we need to wto treaty poses nothing we need be—bebere— wto treaty poses nothing we need to_before that,- to worry about before that, i wewbb— to worry about before that, i wewbb-rebm— to worry about before that, i would-refer back- to worry about before that, i would refer back to a would like to refer back to a ebew— would like to refer back to a ebew we— would like to refer back to a show we broadcast on the 22nd of brwbb— show we broadcast on the 22nd of brwbb-b— show we broadcast on the 22nd of brwbb-b bewe— show we broadcast on the 22nd of brwbb-b bewe em— show we broadcast on the 22nd of april, i have an important april, and i have an important ebebememb— april, and i have an important statement-to- april, and i have an important statement-to wit- april, and i have an important statement-to wit ,- april, and i have an important statement to wit , the statement to read. to wit, the bbbe— statement to read. to wit, the bmc infectious— statement to read. to wit, the bmc infectious disease study. dr. bmc infectious disease study. br. bebm — bmc infectious disease study. dr. asim malhotra referred to beb— dr. asim malhotra referred to beb eebwebby— dr. asim malhotra referred to had actually been retracted eberbby— had actually been retracted shortly before _ had actually been retracted shortly before our broadcast. bmbemewm— shortly before our broadcast. unbeknown to _ shortly before our broadcast. unbeknown to dr. malhotra . okay. unbeknown to dr. malhotra. okay. mbm— unbeknown to dr. malhotra. okay. bbbm bbeb,— unbeknown to dr. malhotra. okay. bbbm bbeb, b— unbeknown to dr. malhotra. okay. after that, i will— unbeknown to dr. malhotra. okay. after that, i will see you in bbree— after that, i will see you in three minutes— after that, i will see you in three minutes when i'll be bebmeb— three minutes when i'll be rebmeb by— three minutes when i'll be joined by barrister francis beee— joined by barrister francis beere .—
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welcome back. now francis hoare is welcome back. now francis hoare be e— welcome back. now francis hoare be e bwbbbe— welcome back. now francis hoare be e bwbbbe bew— welcome back. now francis hoare is a public law barrister , is a public law barrister, bbeebby— is a public law barrister, ideally qualified, therefore, to bebb— ideally qualified, therefore, to bebb we— ideally qualified, therefore, to mm we webbb— ideally qualified, therefore, to help us weigh up the pros and eb— help us weigh up the pros and cons of proposed— help us weigh up the pros and cons of proposed changes to the bembembe— cons of proposed changes to the pandemic preparedness treaty. merebe— pandemic preparedness treaty. bremebebebme— pandemic preparedness treaty. francis joins me— pandemic preparedness treaty. francis joins me now . i . hope francis joins me now. i. hope brewers— francis joins me now. i. hope bbbwebs bb— francis joins me now. i. hope bbbwebs bb .— francis joins me now. i. hope francis hi , good evening, neil. francis hi, good evening, neil. beee— francis hi, good evening, neil. beee bbbe— francis hi, good evening, neil. does this thing— francis hi, good evening, neil. does this thing have teeth that bbbe— does this thing have teeth that bbbe er— does this thing have teeth that bbbe er beee— does this thing have teeth that
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these are amendments that are under negotiation. they're not final , is non under negotiation. they're not final, is non binding or binding recommendations. it's difficult to see what a binding recommendation is other than thatis recommendation is other than that is intended to be a duty. so in theory arnie yes, these are simply recommendations. they're in international law. their obligation is to the united kingdom as a state rather than domestic legal law. however where we need to look for the reality of the situation to the experience of the last three years, and we need to look back in the history to the history of the international health regulations, the public health act, 1984, that that was used to implement all the lockdown regulations without exception. and the mask regulations, the travel regulations and everything else besides is not the coronavirus act, the public health act, 1984 was in fact that as amended in 2008 and it
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was amended to give effect to the international health regulations that applied at that time. and that's important because, of course, the fact is that this could not be implemented in domestic law. that's one point. but the second point is this doctor malone suggested that there might be enforcement mechanisms and he suggested that perhaps in future the world trade organisation might be used to give pressure to put pressure on governments if they were not implementing the recommendations. the non binding recommendations or the dufies binding recommendations or the duties or the binding recommendations or whatever they call them in the treaty. and that may or may not be right. but given the last three years, can we really say that if the w.h.o. can we really say that if the who. said there is a public w.h.o. said there is a public health emergency, people will die ? if you do not do these die? if you do not do these things , nobody is safe until things, nobody is safe until everyone is safe. do we really think that there would not be an
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extraordinary pressure to follow exactly what they said ? and so, exactly what they said? and so, yes , it is correct to say that yes, it is correct to say that in theory this doesn't change our sovereignty in practise. it doesn't change our sovereignty. it's not like joining the eu where we have we had eu law which was binding insofar as we were members of the european union. it's not like that. however it creates an enormous pressure potentially, and probably practically and probably practically and probably in reality on any government in the uk or anywhere else to follow what was done, particularly given that we know how likely it is that the media and all the organisations in power and positions of authority in the state and influence will encourage the state to do what the who says hypothetico albie francis if you were representing a client and that client was a nafion a client and that client was a nation state, intent on maintaining its sovereignty ,
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maintaining its sovereignty, would you advise your client to sign this treaty or not? well, i would strongly. well, it's a client of a nation state. i think the clients of the nation state are the people of the nafions state are the people of the nations and i strongly advise the government not to sign amendments to the international health. the international health regulations . and i would go regulations. and i would go further than that and say we need to go back to the 2008 amendments to the public health act, which the court of appeal found in the case that i represent. simon dodi rhiannon challenging the first lockdown, the court of appeal found that that gave government ministers in on their own. matt hancock in these in the in most cases , in these in the in most cases, in this case the authority to give regulations to make regulations which had unpressed it gave the state unprecedented power over over domestic life and including
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and not limited to restricting when you could leave your house businesses that could open and when they could open and so on. i disagree with that interpretation. still and so do many other lawyers up to and including lord sumption . but including lord sumption. but regardless of that, the fact that the court of appeal has now found that, i think means that we need to amend that to ensure that parliament, the ministers cannot do that , at least without cannot do that, at least without parliament scrutiny on a regular basis, as would be the case if ministers were required to do it under other emergency legislation . i'm andrew eborn . legislation. i'm andrew eborn. it legislation. i'm andrew eborn. bb beee— legislation. i'm andrew eborn. bb beee bbe— legislation. i'm andrew eborn. it begs the question,- cig i'm andrew eborn. it begs the question, doesn't it , if it begs the question, doesn't it , bb bbe— it begs the question, doesn't it , if it's toothless,— it begs the question, doesn't it , if it's toothless, if it beeem-b— , if it's toothless, if it doesn't matter, why would emybeby— doesn't matter, why would emybeby ebeb— doesn't matter, why would anybody sign it anyway ? anybody sign it anyway? okay. no, anybody sign it anyway? okay. be. me— anybody sign it anyway? okay. we. yewre— anybody sign it anyway? okay. no, no, you're absolutely right. and we discussed this off air, which was one of those sort of interesting things. the basic idea was idea of the who. was completely laudable to make sure that it's one health effectively. so it's trying to address those sort of things. but right, you need to but you're right, you need to look that and beg that look at that and beg that question. hoare, thank question. francis hoare, thank you much. andrew eborn ,
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you very much. andrew eborn, memb— you very much. andrew eborn, memb-mwm— you very much. andrew eborn, thank-much. that's- you very much. andrew eborn, thank-much. that's alli thank you so much. that's all for thank you so much. that's all beb—membe- thank you so much. that's all for—thanks to- thank you so much. that's all for—thanks to my. for this week. thanks to my eweebe—br. - for this week. thanks to my. guests,_dr. robert guests, kat lindley, dr. robert ebebeme— guests, kat lindley, dr. robert bbebeme. webb— guests, kat lindley, dr. robert malone. next up,— guests, kat lindley, dr. robert malone. next up, it's the common sense crusade. and— malone. next up, it's the common sense crusade. and will see malone. next up, it's the common sensif crusade. and will see malone. next up, it's the common sensif irusade. and will see malone. next up, it's the common sensif i get de. and will see malone. next up, it's the common sensif i get myand will see malone. next up, it's the common sensif i get my breath /ill see malone. next up, it's the common sensif i get my breath backbe malone. next up, it's the common sensif i get my breath back next you if i get my breath back next sebwrbey. — you if i get my breath back next saturday. hello— you if i get my breath back next saturday. c“bi1bi; ' you if i get my breath back next saturday. c“bi1bi; “b: ci1ri;rg saturday. hello there. and greg dewhurst . and welcome to your dewhurst. and welcome to your latest gb news forecast from the met office. it's staying mixed over the rest of the long weekend. some showers , some weekend. some showers, some longer spells of rain, but there will be some warm sunshine, too. and we can see that on the bigger picture. today's rain starting to move away to give a brighter sunday. but then further wet and windy weather will spread from the west as will spread in from the west as we go through monday. so the rest of saturday, fairly cloudy out there. still some heavy showers, particularly across southern scotland, southern parts of scotland, northern ireland, the odd rumble of cloud affecting of thunder, low cloud affecting eastern perhaps of eastern areas, perhaps a bit of brightness in west before brightness in the west before dusk and then overnight it stays quite cloudy, quite murky. some rain and drizzle across eastern areas , drier in the west. areas, drier in the west. temperatures holding up in double figures across the board, but a grey start to sunday
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morning. a few glimmers of sunshine from the word go around some . the sunshine some western coast. the sunshine hopefully more hopefully becoming more widespread as we move through the morning into the afternoon. so after that great start across eastern it does brighten eastern areas, it does brighten up some spells , but up here. some sunny spells, but the of a few heavy showers the risk of a few heavy showers developing the odd developing and perhaps the odd thunderstorm grey along thunderstorm still grey along some eastern coast, keeping it cool in aberdeen. but cool there in aberdeen. but elsewhere afternoon elsewhere warm feeling afternoon temperatures 2122 celsius possible making it the warmest day of the year so far. so a fine end to sunday. some low cloud creeping back in across eastern coast of england and scotland. and then outbreaks of rain spreading in during the early across parts of early hours across parts of northern ireland, western scotland wales, southwest scotland, later wales, southwest england. some of this rain could be heavy at times. winds be heavy at times. the winds starting to strengthen, clearing skies the far skies holding on across the far east, though, quite murky here. and temperatures again, double figures monday morning. figures to start monday morning. a bit of a west east split to start the day. wet and windy across western areas. this slowly eastward. slowly pushing its way eastward. some with how long some uncertainty with how long the dry weather holds on to the
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