it's saturday night and this is - it's saturday night and this is the saturday— - it's saturday night and this is the saturday five. _ - it's saturday night and this is the saturday five. with— the saturday five. with everything— the saturday five. with everything that you need for a proper— everything that you need for a proper coronation— everything that you need for a proper coronation after party. rm — proper coronation after party. r-n daren— proper coronation after party. i'm darren grimes , along with i'm darren grimes, along with arme— i'm darren grimes, along with albie amankona_ i'm darren grimes, along with albie amankona emily carver, den-ann— albie amankona emily carver, benjamin butterworth and patrick cnnerye— benjamin butterworth and patrick christys. tonight— benjamin butterworth and patrick christys. tonight on the show, r-n — christys. tonight on the show, r-n going— christys. tonight on the show, r-n gang re— christys. tonight on the show, r-n gang d de— christys. tonight on the show, i'm going to be telling you what dne— i'm going to be telling you what nne ane— i'm going to be telling you what who the forgotten— i'm going to be telling you what who the forgotten royals who nave — who the forgotten royals who nave deen— who the forgotten royals who have been fantastic today are. r-n — have been fantastic today are. r-n going— have been fantastic today are. r-n gang re— have been fantastic today are. r-n gang d de— have been fantastic today are. i'm going to be talking about why— i'm going to be talking about why young— i'm going to be talking about why young dne— i'm going to be talking about why young brits don't seem to aberr— why young brits don't seem to care about the _ why young brits don't seem to care about the coronation i can-r— care about the coronation i cant ger— care about the coronation i can-r gen ny— care about the coronation i can't get my head- care about the coronation i can't get my head around why you'd want to turn up at a coronation just to ruin it for the enjoyment of everyone else. and i'll be telling you why. i'm a prena— and i'll be telling you why. i'm a proud rerrre— and i'll be telling you why. i'm a proud leftie and— and i'll be telling you why. i'm a proud leftie and a proud monarchist._ a proud leftie and a proud monarchist. i'll- a proud leftie and a proud monarchist. i'll also be telling you— monarchist. i'll also be telling you why— monarchist. i'll also be telling you why earne— monarchist. i'll also be telling you why some privacy hungry eco warrior traitor— you why some privacy hungry eco warrior traitor decided to rack up rs— warrior traitor decided to rack up rs rennee— warrior traitor decided to rack up 15 tonnes of— warrior traitor decided to rack up 15 tonnes of carbon emissions der— up 15 tonnes of carbon emissions r-aer re— up 15 tonnes of carbon emissions raer re earne— up 15 tonnes of carbon emissions raer re re— up 15 tonnes of carbon emissions just to come to the— up 15 tonnes of carbon emissions just to come to the coronation ana— just to come to the coronation and men— just to come to the coronation and then leave— just to come to the coronation and then leave very speedily again— and then leave very speedily again in— and then leave very speedily again in a— and then leave very speedily

again in a bmw— and then leave very speedily again in a bmw. that's right. we— again in a bmw. that's right. we dnnee— again in a bmw. that's right. it's prince harry.— again in a bmw. that's right. it's prince harry. but i'm asking— it's prince harry. but i'm asking ,— it's prince harry. but i'm aenng , re— it's prince harry. but i'm asking, is he— it's prince harry. but i'm asking, is he a- it's prince harry. but i'm asking, is he a bad dad.7 it's droo— asking, is he a bad dad.7 it's 8:00 ana— asking, is he a bad dad.7 it's 8:00 and this— asking, is he a bad dad.7 it's 8:00 and this is— asking, is he a bad dad.7 it's 8:00 and this is .- asking, is he a bad dad.7 it's 8:00 and this is . the. 8:00 and this is. the. saturday five. - welcome nae.- welcome back nae.— welcome back to the saturday nne- dn— welcome back to the saturday nne- dn ane— welcome back to the saturday five. on this very— welcome back to the saturday five. on this very special coronation— five. on this very special coronation day, the best narnerre— coronation day, the best patriotic after- coronation day, the best patriotic after party that you coura— patriotic after party that you could possibly— patriotic after party that you could possibly hope for. expect fiery— could possibly hope for. expect rrery aedare,— could possibly hope for. expect fiery debate, spicy opinions, dar— fiery debate, spicy opinions, dar a— fiery debate, spicy opinions, dar a huge— fiery debate, spicy opinions, but a huge topping of right royal— but a huge topping of right reyar ran— but a huge topping of right royal fun today. every week you ran— royal fun today. every week you rern arme— royal fun today. every week you can join albie emily benjamin ana— can join albie emily benjamin and nreen— can join albie emily benjamin and myself along with a guest era.— and myself along with a guest erar. tonight— and myself along with a guest star. tonight, it's— and myself along with a guest star. tonight, it's none other man— star. tonight, it's none other than patrick— star. tonight, it's none other than patrick mc— star. tonight, it's none other than patrick mc christys. now, the than patrick mc christys. now, rne penne— than patrick mc christys. now, the premise of— than patrick mc christys. now, the premise of this show is very ernnre. — the premise of this show is very ernpre. racn— the premise of this show is very simple. each host— the premise of this show is very simple. ec rzzrucc ” simple. each host outlines their argument about a chosen topic. then we all pile in and have a right royal go at each other . right royal go at each other. and of course, we want to know your views as well. please do get in touch throughout the show by emailing gbviews@gbnews.uk. but start tearing each but before we start tearing each other apart, it is your saturday

night with bethany elsey . night news with bethany elsey. thanks emily. i'm bethany elsey with a look at today's coronation news from the gb newsroom. a moment of history for commonwealth and country as king charles iii is crowned the nation's monarch. god save the king oh, save the king in a spiritual and deeply personal event for the king, the archbishop of canterbury placed st edwards crown on charles's head. he was anointed before god and the prince of wales, william pledged his loyalty, life and limb to his father. king charles became the 40th monarch to be crowned at westmin easter abbey. although he's been king for eight months today , he truly eight months today, he truly wears the crown following the death of his mother, the late queen elizabeth ii after a 75 year reign . immediately after year reign. immediately after the king, queen camilla was

anointed and crowned with queen mary's crown by the archbishop of canterbury . king charles and of canterbury. king charles and queen camilla appeared on the balcony of buckingham palace . balcony of buckingham palace. they waved to the thousands who gathered to pay their respects . gathered to pay their respects. they were joined by the prince and princess of wales and their three children. the two kings, two of the king's siblings, princess anne and prince edward. also came out to greet supporters . due to the weather, supporters. due to the weather, a scaled back fly—past of royal air force jets, including the famous red arrows, flew over the crowds that filled the mall and over the nation's new king. the armed forces staged the largest ceremonial military operation since the late queen's coronation in 1953. 4000 servicemen and women took part

in a parade that stretched a mile long, including the household cavalry. the sovereign's bodyguard and royal watermen. the military parade also featured troops from nafions also featured troops from nations across the commonwealth and the british overseas territories . in typical british territories. in typical british weather, there was heavy rain. but that failed to dampen the enthusiasm of the crowds who gathered hoping to catch a glimpse of the king and queen. all procession viewing areas along the route were filled to capacity. fans cheered for charles and camilla as they travelled down the mall in the gold state coach, which is over 260 years old and has been used at every coronation since 1831. we spoke to some of the 10,000 people who turned up . amazing. people who turned up. amazing. just people who turned up. amazing. raer anaerarery— people who turned up. amazing. just absolutely amazing- people who turned up. amazing. just absolutely amazing .- c. amazing. just absolutely amazing . yeah, just absolutely amazing. yeah, r-aer— just absolutely amazing. yeah, just congratulations to the to the just congratulations to the to rne king— just congratulations to the to rne king ana— just congratulations to the to the king and queen camilla. unbelievable.— the king and queen camilla. unbelievable. very wet , but unbelievable. very wet, but rrnng. — unbelievable. very wet, but nnng. dar— unbelievable. very wet, but tiring. but what- unbelievable. very wet, but tiring. but what a- unbelievable. very wet, but tiring. tt tiring. but what a spectacle. nobody else can do it better than us, can they? we weren't

expecflng— than us, can they? we weren't expeenng re— than us, can they? we weren't expecting to see— than us, can they? we weren't expecting to see them- s?" c»; tr?" c'wilf’ we weren't expecting to see them on the dareeny. — expecting to see them on the dareeny. dre— expecting to see them on the balcony. we didn't think that we weara— balcony. we didn't think that we wanna aer— balcony. we didn't think that we wanna ger anar— balcony. we didn't think that we would get that close because we aarre — would get that close because we aarre rar— would get that close because we were quite far back. so, yeah, rr-e— were quite far back. so, yeah, ire-gear— were quite far back. so, yeah, ire-gear day- were quite far back. so, yeah, it's-good day to- were quite far back. so, yeah, it's good day to be it's just a good day to be dnrren. — it's just a good day to be british. we— it's just a good day to be british. �*frr�*rz; , r::;r: it's just a good day to be british. �*frr�*rz; : c “43?“ c british. we loved it. yeah, it was wonderful. if it wasn't so wet. god save king, god save wet. god save the king, god save the wet. god save the king, god save rne-eaa— wet. god save the king, god save rne-eaa ae— wet. god save the king, god save the-god save the- wet. god save the king, god save the-god save the king- wet. god save the king, god save the-god save the king .. wet. god save the king, god save the-god save the king . i the king. god save the king. well, the king. god save the king. wen, r-aer— the king. god save the king. well, just hours— the king. god save the king. well, just hours before- the king. cirzitrr: 3 well, just hours before the coronation,— well, just hours before the coronation, police arrested the reader— coronation, police arrested the reader er— coronation, police arrested the leader of anti—monarchy group republic— leader of anti—monarchy group reenadne ,— leader of anti—monarchy group republic , along— leader of anti—monarchy group republic , along with 52 others republic, along with 52 others lining— republic, along with 52 others dnrne ane— republic, along with 52 others lining the procession route. republic— lining the procession route. republic had— lining the procession route. republic had previously promised to republic had previously promised re erage— republic had previously promised re eraae ane— republic had previously promised to stage the biggest protest agarner— to stage the biggest protest against british. _ to stage the biggest protest against british. a british rnenaen— against british. a british monarch in— against british. a british monarch in modern history. akua aerrrrere— monarch in modern history. akua activists dressed— monarch in modern history. akua activists dressed in— monarch in modern history. akua activists dressed in yellow t anne— activists dressed in yellow t shirts demanded an elected head of shirts demanded an elected head or erare— shirts demanded an elected head or erare ana— shirts demanded an elected head of state and said— shirts demanded an elected head of state and said the royal nanny— of state and said the royal nanny nae— of state and said the royal family has no— of state and said the royal family has no place in modern constitutional— family has no place in modern constitutional democracy . see a constitutional democracy. see a narnerd— constitutional democracy. see a narnerd er— constitutional democracy. see a number of just— constitutional democracy. see a number of just stop oil prereerere— number of just stop oil protesters were also detained in van-re— protesters were also detained in van-re an— protesters were also detained in van-re an re— protesters were also detained in you're up to date— protesters were also detained in you're up to date on tv online dadr — you're up to date on tv online dadr raare— you're up to date on tv online dab+ radio and— you're up to date on tv online dab+ radio and on— you're up to date on tv online dab+ radio and on tune in. this is dab+ radio and on tune in. this

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pubuc services and, of course, the public that packed out outside of the palace . the exceptional of the palace. the exceptional coverage from this very channel, of course, added to that sense, i think of pride and unity among the british people. but i reckon it's about time that we gave a few shout outs to a few others. how brilliant it was. princess anne, frankly, the gold stick in waiting, that was a title today she was trusted with keeping the monarchs safe and leading the procession on horseback . but procession on horseback. but princess anne also served another role here. aukus. she blocked out the ginger ginger. so i think just for that, she deserves a medal. another one. and of course , prince louis, and of course, prince louis, despite only being a mere five year old, he showed that he's got more character than most adults. right. he was belting out the national anthem . he was out the national anthem. he was kicked out actually for the next anthem. so good goodness only knows what he got up to in between that. and he was waving

everyone dodi as you can see on your telly screens right now on radio, he's waving like you wouldn't believe in spectre tacular fashion. now i have to give also a really special shout out to penny morton. now, penny is leader of the house of commons and she's got a title, another title, lord president of the council. now she was given that job on firstly by both liz truss and rishi sunak to put a former leadership contender out of sight and out of mind. that's backfired somewhat. penny morton carrying that sword. she must have biceps of steel. she was carrying it for goodness only knows how long longer than liz truss was actually in office. i reckon. so all props to her. she was actually a star of the show, unlike rishi sunak. was actually a star of the show, unlike rishi sunak . but anyway, unlike rishi sunak. but anyway, let's see what the panel think. i mean , i'll be. who were your i mean, i'll be. who were your standout suits? so i think i weara— standout suits? so i think i wanna agree— standout suits? so i think i would agree with- : 37 so i think i would agree with you. "

standout. but i think one of the things that was actually quite different with this coronation compared coronation, compared to the last coronation, are there were a lot of are actually there were a lot of women taking a lot of quite senior in coronation. senior roles in this coronation. penny morton was the first woman to penny morton was the first woman re ae— penny morton was the first woman re re anar— penny morton was the first woman re re rnar rere— penny morton was the first woman to do that role that— penny morton was the first woman to do that role that she did naming— to do that role that she did holding-sword. - to do that role that she did holding sword. we also saw holding the sword. we also saw renare— holding the sword. we also saw female-because,- female bishops because, ofi female bishops because, of- course, female bishops were only annea— course, female bishops were only arrenea rn— course, female bishops were only allowed in this— course, female bishops were only allowed in this country since dore.— allowed in this country since dore—anal allowed in this country since dore—dar 71 allowed in this country since. 2016._that 7 so 2016. can you believe that? so we 2016. can you believe that? so are-a— 2016. can you believe that? so ne-a rer— 2016. can you believe that? so ne-a er en— 2016. can you believe that? so we-a lot of women- 2016. can you believe that? so we a lot of women in we saw a lot of women in arenrnenr— we saw a lot of women in prominent roles, which would nave— prominent roles, which would have traditionally been filled by-we_ have traditionally been filled by we absolutely love by men. and we absolutely love to by men. and we absolutely love re—rarerr— by men. and we absolutely love re—rarerr girl- by men. and we absolutely lovei to_lovely girl power to see it. how lovely girl power albie . i mean, we also did have albie. i mean, we also did have a queen on the throne for 70 years. that's doing a fair bit for enr— years. that's doing a fair bit rer prn peer— years. that's doing a fair bit for girl power, but- p33 that's doing a fair bit for girl power, but yeah, penny nereaane— for girl power, but yeah, penny nereaane r— for girl power, but yeah, penny mordaunt, i mean, she did look radareae. — mordaunt, i mean, she did look radareae. r— mordaunt, i mean, she did look fabulous. i wouldn't- mordaunt, i mean, she did look fabulous. : " c fabulous. i wouldn't say she stole the show because that would be a bad thing to say, but she did look brilliant and she got the westminster wonks. got all the westminster wonks. oh yeah, from king, everyone oh yeah, from the king, everyone saying she should saying that she should be the next minister the back next prime minister off the back of who knows? could of this. so who knows? she could be saw a tweet where it be know. i saw a tweet where it said wasn't she fantastic? she should be the next prime- should be the next prime nrnrerer— should be the next prime minister and— should be the next prime minister and i- should be the next prime minister and i said, i don't rnrnn— minister and i said, i don't rnrnk dene— minister and i said, i don't think being able to a sword

think being able to hold a sword islqualification_ think being able to hold a sword islqualification to— think being able to hold a sword is qualification to lead is a qualification to lead the eeanrw— is a qualification to lead the danny-doze.— is a qualification to lead the country 2023. bad country in 2023. not a bad pran— country in 2023. not a bad pram—re- country in 2023. not a bad. start,-it, benjamin? start, though, is it, benjamin? i start, though, is it, benjamin? r-we— start, though, is it, benjamin? r-we ere— start, though, is it, benjamin? r-we are per— start, though, is it, benjamin? i-we did get past- start, though, is it, benjamin? i we did get past that i think we did get past that a eenrarw— i think we did get past that a eenraw er— i think we did get past that a eenrww er ee— i think we did get past that a century or so ago.— i think we did get past that a century or so ago. i just absolutely— century or so ago. i just absolutely love prince louis naeewew— absolutely love prince louis massively energy. massively chaotic energy. i rnrnn—ne-sl think it's fantastic. he's apperarew— think it's fantastic. he's absolutely feral, clearly, and it just goes to show. i wonder i wonder obviously is. wonder what he obviously is. reminds of someone. yeah, reminds us of someone. yeah, exaerw. — reminds us of someone. yeah, exactly. -resonate. exactly. exactly. i resonate with of anybody with with him. you of anybody with him ben from outnumbered. him and ben from outnumbered. but i think that you can but i just think that you can enw— but i just think that you can enw rnaprne— but i just think that you can only imagine what gets up to only imagine what he gets up to denne— only imagine what he gets up to behind-scenes— only imagine what he gets up to behind-scenes as— only imagine what he gets up to behind scenes as well. it's behind the scenes as well. it's a peer— behind the scenes as well. it's a peed-anew— behind the scenes as well. it's a good-they didn't- behind the scenes as well. it's a good they didn't hand him a good job they didn't hand him anar— a good job they didn't hand him| rnar—de that sword. otherwise there'd be a—peepre.- that sword. otherwise there'd be a—peepre. - that sword. otherwise there'd bei a—peepre. lean a few headless people. i mean, rare— a few headless people. i mean, rare wa— a few headless people. i mean, kate was quizzed actually outside of the palace by someone on mail and they at on the mail and they said at that kate said at that that point, kate said at that point she didn't what point that she didn't know what louis was going to get up to, frankly. think that's been frankly. so i think that's been proven did up to. proven by what he did get up to. but brilliant. i thought but he was brilliant. i thought he added energy to it and yeah, you what want. you know, that's what we want. could you imagine being a toddler at one of those events? i mean, see these pictures i mean, you see these pictures of princess elizabeth was of princess elizabeth as she was then her father's coronation then at her father's coronation and he was and prince charles as he was then mother's coronation. then at his mother's coronation. you bald. so i just you do look very bald. so i just wonder, where these kids

wonder, where will these kids just of their minds? just bored out of their minds? i was may i just say something? rhe— i was may i just say something? rne narc— i was may i just say something? rne re— i was may i just say something? the music, it really— i was may i just say something? the music, it really brought- the music, it really brought a tear to my eyes. oh, was tear to my eyes. oh, it was beautiful. glorious. it was deanna.— beautiful. glorious. it was beautiful. but— glorious. it was beautiful. but listen, it's not going— beautiful. but listen, it's not pernp re— beautiful. but listen, it's not pernp re de— beautiful. but listen, it's not pernp re de ane— beautiful. but listen, it's not going to be the sound of music, npnr— going to be the sound of music, npnr ne— going to be the sound of music, right now, because— going to be the sound of music, right now, because next up, it is right now, because next up, it 3 darren— right now, because next up, it is patrick christys who's going to is patrick christys who's going re—en- is patrick christys who's goingj re—en dnnee to give us his $0.02 on prince nary-e— to give us his $0.02 on prince narw-e—enen- to give us his $0.02 on prince harry's—short trip. harry's startlingly short trip to harry's startlingly short trip re drrpnrw— harry's startlingly short trip to blighty biggest day, to blighty for the biggest day, of to blighty for the biggest day, er-nre— to blighty for the biggest day, er-nre nae-e- to blighty for the biggest day, of-his dad's-off| of course, of his dad's life off you— of course, of his dad's life off wen pe. — of course, of his dad's life off wen are near.— of course, of his dad's life off you go. / of course, of his dad's life off you go. 43.3“ you go. yeah, obviously. look, prince harry quite literally gave flying visit, didn't gave us a flying visit, didn't he? and out like he? swanning in and out like a stroppy teenager, which not stroppy teenager, which i'm not surprised, of surprised, given that is, of course, of his iq. but course, the level of his iq. but i just wonder if there's more to it than this with prince harry and think there's and i think there's a conversation to be had about whether he's actually whether or not he's actually a good father, because cause he's depriving kids of the chance depriving his kids of the chance to something really to be part of something really special, not just days like special, not just on days like today, generally today, but more generally being part royal family, part of the royal family, being part of the royal family, being part that that comes part of all of that that comes with and being part, frankly, with it and being part, frankly, of britain being loved of britain and being loved by the public well. and the british public as well. and i think that is something that they are going grow to resent they are going to grow to resent him on top of that, i think him for. on top of that, i think he also piling a huge amount

he is also piling a huge amount of onto his children, of resentment onto his children, hereditary i think hereditary resentments. i think they're looking they're going to grow up looking at their father has at the way that their father has behaved, the that behaved, looking at the way that he's ditched own family, he's ditched his own family, looking the kind snideness looking at the kind of snideness that he's put on them. and i think that's going to rub off on those i really do fear for those kids. i really do fear for them. i also think has them. i also think he has shameless idiotically, shameless and idiotically, massively increase the terror threat children threat that these children are now have to face and now going to have to face and look no further than anjum chaudhry. came and chaudhry. okay who came out and said that he felt as though prince harry's comments about, quote, has quote, killing muslims has drastically increased the chances a terror attack. now, chances of a terror attack. now, prince harry that his own prince harry did that to his own kids. there's of dads kids. now there's lots of dads out who do things, out there who do stupid things, not of people have rallied not a lot of people have rallied up group jihadis. not a lot of people have rallied up group jihadis . to be up a group of jihadis. to be fair, also think he's got fair, i also think he's got they're going to grow up with a very confused ideology where they're have all of they're going to have all of this wealth and their this this wealth and their status got status because they've got famous but presumably status because they've got famo to but presumably status because they've got famo to apologise jt presumably status because they've got famo to apologise jtpthat.1ably status because they've got famo to apologise jt pthat. ally have to apologise for that. all of this unconscious bias stuff, he's pass on to he's going to pass that on to them. and i do think he ultimately and ironically, wanted set a different note wanted to set a different note route did . but route than his father did. but he's done the same thing because he's done the same thing because

he's wrong woman. he's married the wrong woman. and going to his and that is going to affect his children big time. he's married the and he's caused the wrong woman and he's caused absolute carnage. i only hope that prince harry is so thick he doesn't what he's done. doesn't realise what he's done. oh, , fiery. well, i mean, oh, well, fiery. well, i mean, you— oh, well, fiery. well, i mean, wen aren-r— oh, well, fiery. well, i mean, you didn't like— oh, well, fiery. well, i mean, you didn't like prince- o" well, i mean, you didn't like prince harry, do you?— you didn't like prince harry, do you? we.— you didn't like prince harry, do you? we. we.— you didn't like prince harry, do you? no. no. well,— you didn't like prince harry, do you? no. no. well, he doesn't nne— you? no. no. well, he doesn't dre-ewe.— you? no. no. well, he doesn't like-either, so— you? no. no. well, he doesn't like either, so why you? no. no. well, he doesn't. like-either, so why-i? like us either, so why should i? vea— like us either, so why should i? yea-r— like us either, so why should i? yea-r mean— like us either, so why should i? yea-r r-nn- like us either, so why should i? you-i mean, i'm sorry,- like us either, so why should i? i you-i mean, i'm sorry, you you know? i mean, i'm sorry, you know, patrick, know, maybe know, patrick, you know, maybe prince louis is the patrick christys royal family. christys of the royal family. but i tell you what, that erarnde— but i tell you what, that diatribe deplorable. diatribe is deplorable. bill, wne—arel diatribe is deplorable. bill,| wn—ae re diatribe is deplorable. bill,- wn—ae re ear who do you think you are to say anar— who do you think you are to say rnar dnnee— who do you think you are to say that prince harry— who do you think you are to say that prince harry is— who do you think you are to say that prince harry is not a eapadre— that prince harry is not a eapadre-ne- that prince harry is not a capable he might that prince harry is not a capable-he might many capable father? he might be many annea— capable father? he might be many rnrnpelnrenr— capable father? he might be many rnrnpelnrenr ner— capable father? he might be many things. might not meet the things. he might not meet the eapeerarrene— things. he might not meet the expectations that— things. he might not meet the expectations that some of us nave— expectations that some of us have-member- expectations that some of us have-member of- expectations that some of us have member of the royal have of a member of the royal nanny— have of a member of the royal ranrw ne— have of a member of the royal family he.might_ have of a member of the royal family he might not this family he he might not love this eeanrrr— family he he might not love this eeanrrr-rnar— family he he might not love this country-that some- country in a way that some peepre— country in a way that some people-someone- country in a way that some people someone in the people expect someone in the royal— people expect someone in the dewar-reve— people expect someone in the. royal - love - country royal family to love the country ane— royal family to love the country and-traditions.— royal family to love the country and-traditions. but- royal family to love the country and traditions. but i tell and its traditions. but i tell you— and its traditions. but i tell wea wnae— and its traditions. but i tell wea wnar. rea— and its traditions. but i tell you what, you have no grounds to say you what, you have no grounds to ear anar— you what, you have no grounds to ear rnar ne— you what, you have no grounds to ear rnar ne re— you what, you have no grounds to say that he is an— you what, you have no grounds to say that he is an inadequate rarner. — say that he is an inadequate rarner. -r— say that he is an inadequate father.-i disagree. father. and i. i disagree. i just not. so i'll father. and i. i disagree. i just-not. so i'll finish just i'm not. so i'll finish wnen— just i'm not. so i'll finish wnen ne— just i'm not. so i'll finish when he talks— so i'll finish when he talks about when he raine— when he talks about when he rawe adear— when he talks about when he talks about prince charles or king— talks about prince charles or king wanes.— talks about prince charles or king charles. now, obviously not dene— king charles. now, obviously noti derne—ne being the dad that he wanted, he is being the dad that he wanted, he 3 anne— being the dad that he wanted, he is rrrrnp re— being the dad that he wanted, he is trying to break— being the dad that he wanted, he is trying to break that cycle for is trying to break that cycle rer ne— is trying to break that cycle for his children— is trying to break that cycle for his children and he should be for his children and he should de—ne-e- for his children and he should de—ne-e ner- for his children and he shouldi be_he's not doing be admired. but he's not doing in — be admired. but he's not doing in -ne-s— be admired. but he's not doing

it. -he's making- it. i think he's making decisions for his children. i understand he to understand that he has to because they're so young, but they're decisions. i think they're bad decisions. i think his going to look back his kids are going to look back on today and days to on days like today and days to come the future. wish come in the future. and wish that been a part it. that they had been a part of it. it was archie's birthday today. he could have a of he could have been a part of that. could have been a that. that could have been a fantastic present for fantastic birthday present for him. and instead now him. and instead he's now swanning and swanning around the place. and i keep coming back to this as well. benjamin i think i have grounds suggest that not grounds to suggest that he's not the the world the best father in the world when he's riled a of when he's riled up a group of mujahideen in a way that could stay with. he has absolutely. no, sorry. blame no, i'm sorry. you blame terrorists actions he terrorists for the actions he has. riled them up, and has. a father riled them up, and thatis has. a father riled them up, and that is something that's going to their children's to hang around their children's necks the rest their necks for the rest of their lives. can just blame lives. can i just say you blame rerrenere— lives. can i just say you blame terrorists for— lives. can i just say you blame terrorists for terrorist- terrorists for terrorist adrena— terrorists for terrorist actions, not- terrorists for terrorist actions, not people the west actions, not people in the west expressing— actions, not people in the west expressing freedom expressing their freedom of epeeed— expressing their freedom of speech, which _ expressing their freedom of speech, which so despite generarw— speech, which so despite- generally—they've speech, which so despite- genei quite -they've speech, which so despite geneiquite sympatheticiey've speech, which so despite geneiquite sympatheticiey harry been quite sympathetic to harry and—aerato- been quite sympathetic to harry and—actually find| and meghan? i do actually find nreen— and meghan? i do actually find nreen-wrrn- and meghan? i do actually find myself-with you- and meghan? i do actually find myself with you on myself agreeing with you on darren— myself agreeing with you on patrick-occasion.- patrick on this occasion. i rneaenr— patrick on this occasion. i rnewpnr n— patrick on this occasion. i thought it was— patrick on this occasion. i thought it was incredibly sad to see-wanna— thought it was incredibly sad to see -walking to- thought it was incredibly sad to see-walking to in- thought it was incredibly sad to see walking to in the see harry walking to in the abbey— see harry walking to in the abbey completely alone. i think it abbey completely alone. i think rr—rwe- abbey completely alone. i think rr—rwelrnei it was sad to see two of the king's— it was sad to see two of the king's grandchild children not at king's grandchild children not ar ane— king's grandchild children not

at the ceremony— king's grandchild children not at the ceremony today when eenrre— at the ceremony today when ewerrene-ane- at the ceremony today when everyone -and it. at the ceremony today when everyone and it just everyone else was. and it just ren— everyone else was. and it just nen—were- everyone else was. and it just felt—there was- felt to me that there was a er— felt to me that there was a sense of something was missing. ane— sense of something was missing. ana r— sense of something was missing. ana r rnrnn— sense of something was missing. and i think.there_ sense of something was missing. and i think there was one and i think if there was one anne— and i think if there was one rnrnp er— and i think if there was one rnrnp er ane— and i think if there was one thing of the day— and i think if there was one thing of the day made me thing of the day that made me reer— thing of the day that made me reer-rr— thing of the day that made me feel-it-that. - feel sad, it was that. and i nepe— feel sad, it was that. and i nepe anew— feel sad, it was that. and i hope they think. i'll tell you wnae— hope they think. i'll tell you wnae weren— hope they think. i'll tell you what, though, i'd him what, though, i'd rather him warn— what, though, i'd rather him walk in— what, though, i'd rather him walk in en— what, though, i'd rather him walk in on his— what, though, i'd rather him walk in on his own than with meghan— walk in on his own than with meghan markle,_ walk in on his own than with meghan markle, imagine. meghan markle, i imagine. i erran— meghan markle, i imagine. i think-thing- meghan markle, i imagine. i think-thing is,- meghan markle, i imagine. ij think-thing is,.that think the sad thing is, is that what is teaching his children what is he teaching his children and he's teaching them that duty doesn't he's teaching doesn't matter. he's teaching them your them that family. your grandparents matter. that grandparents don't matter. that all you all that matters is what you want. easiest for you, all that matters is what you wantyou easiest for you, all that matters is what you wantyou live easiest for you, all that matters is what you wantyou live yourzst for you, all that matters is what you wantyou live your best r you, all that matters is what you wantyou live your best life.i, how you live your best life. well, actually, reason why well, actually, the reason why we such a fantastic we live in such a fantastic country because people had country is because people had such of duty that people such a sense of duty that people did things didn't always did things they didn't always want whereas harry is just want to, whereas harry is just teaching his children. i think i fearjust teaching his children. i think i fear just that they can just do whatever they like and not think of anyone else. 15 sons carbon reerpnnr— of anyone else. 15 sons carbon reerpnnr ae— of anyone else. 15 sons carbon footprint as well. _ 15 sons carbon footprint as well. dressing in, weeping—err- footprint as well. dressing in, weeping—err -l footprint as well. dressing in, dressing—off . ii dressing out, hopping off. i mean-n— dressing out, hopping off. i mean,-it was- dressing out, hopping off. i mean, it was almost mean, to me it was almost wennwnrre. — mean, to me it was almost worthwhile. if— mean, to me it was almost worthwhile. if not actually enewrne— worthwhile. if not actually enewrnp ne— worthwhile. if not actually showing his-it- worthwhile. if not actually showing his it didn't look showing his face. it didn't look une— showing his face. it didn't look rrnelwanree— showing his face. it didn't look like .wanted -there. . like he wanted to be there. rnere-e— like he wanted to be there. there's-some- like he wanted to be there.| there's-some-do like he wanted to be there. - there's-some-do you there's even some what do you knew— there's even some what do you knew-even— there's even some what do you know?-even some- there's even some what do you know? even some footage know? there's even some footage anar— know? there's even some footage rnar entrees.— know? there's even some footage that suggests, doesn't that suggests, though it doesn't say that suggests, though it doesn't ear-arena— that suggests, though it doesn't ear-arena nne- that suggests, though it doesn't say didn't sing save say that he didn't sing god save the say that he didn't sing god save rne-nre— say that he didn't sing god save the-his-father-

the king as his own father warren— the king as his own father warren pape— the king as his own father walked past. mean, it was i walked past. i mean, it was i iner— walked past. i mean, it was i twer rnrnn— walked past. i mean, it was i twer rnrnk n— walked past. i mean, it was i just think it was— walked past. i mean, it was i just think it was actually rearw— just think it was actually really shameful from start to nnren. — really shameful from start to nnren. ana— really shameful from start to finish. r: 3 really shameful from start to finish. 3r: 3 really shameful from start to finish. 33 3 r3r3r finish. and benjamin, what do you actually was the point you actually think was the point of here because he of him coming here because he was faster than was in and out faster than meghan act and career? meghan markle's act and career? look you do the look you know, you can do the low it's probably as good low blows. it's probably as good as get from you. as it's going to get from you. darren but the truth is, me out. if you're going to try and make ann— if you're going to try and make rnre arpanenr— if you're going to try and make this argument of— if you're going to try and make this argument of what was the pan— this argument of what was the pernr-eenrnp- this argument of what was the point coming here? point of him coming here? i aen-r— point of him coming here? i dent-wea— point of him coming here? i don't-you understand. point of him coming here? i. don't-you understand the don't think you understand the concept of mate. concept of monarchy, mate. right? he is right? he's there because he is the son of the monarch. he is entitled to that by birth. what about children? the about his children? because the scene what about his. let me let me say, when you talk about me just say, when you talk about these whether he's these questions of whether he's good fulfils good enough, whether he fulfils the whether deserves to the role, whether he deserves to be coronation as was be at the coronation as he was today, none those questions today, none of those questions matter that's not how matter because that's not how a monarchy works. he's by monarchy works. he's there by birthright, none of get birthright, and none of us get a say in it. but do you not think he say in it. but do you not think ne cente— say in it. but do you not think he could have— say in it. but do you not think he could have shown- 3 . but do you not think he could have shown a little bit of he could have shown a little bit er nanny— he could have shown a little bit er erpnrrr ane— he could have shown a little bit of dignity and respect? it was a rew— of dignity and respect? it was a very watere— of dignity and respect? it was a very visible symbol in walking in. okay, not particularly looking— in. okay, not particularly looking be looking like he wanted to be rnere— looking like he wanted to be. there—straight there and then getting straight out there and then getting straight ear-deer— there and then getting straight out-dooriquickly- there and then getting straight out door quickly as out the door as quickly as peeerdre. — out the door as quickly as possible. lwas- out the door as quickly as possible. was causing possible. it was causing a

-ena- possible. it was causing a scene. -end it- possible. it was causing ai scene. -end it there. possible. it was causing a- scene. -end it there. that scene. we'll end it there. that one have gone on, one could have gone on, i imagine still to come, though, folks, the police make 52 folks, after the police make 52 arrests demonstrators folks, after the police make 52 arrests rthe onstrators folks, after the police make 52 arrests rthe coronation of our protesting the coronation of our very will discuss very own, emily will discuss whether right to whether the police were right to arrest people. by whether the police were right to arrerspeech people. by whether the police were right to arrerspeech champion by free speech champion torfaen benjamin butterworth to benjamin butterworth is going to give unapologetic leftist give us an unapologetic leftist defence monarchy . and defence of the monarchy. and albie amankona is going to look at why the young are drifting from king and country. you're with the saturday five live on

the uk this is gb news radio. welcome back to the saturday nwe— welcome back to the saturday rrwe. ae— welcome back to the saturday five, as always. _ welcome back to the saturday five, as always. cheers very nuan— five, as always. cheers very naen rer— five, as always. cheers very much for all— five, as always. cheers very much for all of— five, as always. cheers very much for all of your emails adear— much for all of your emails about tonight's— much for all of your emails about tonight's topics. angela nae— about tonight's topics. angela nae warren— about tonight's topics. angela has written in— about tonight's topics. angela has written in and she says, earner.— has written in and she says, darren. r— has written in and she says, patrick, i totally— has written in and she says, patrick, i totally agree with you— patrick, i totally agree with you wholeheartedly . don't let you wholeheartedly. don't let benjamin— you wholeheartedly. don't let benjamin browbeat you. “33 benjamin browbeat you. yes, wann— benjamin browbeat you. yes, rnann wea.— benjamin browbeat you. yes, thank you, andrew. i'll- benjamin browbeat you. “33 '3r3 i'll be thank you, andrew. i'll be throwing a '3r3 i'll be throwing a coronation ' 3 i'll be throwing a coronation quiche in in anerner— throwing a coronation quiche in in another viewer— throwing a coronation quiche in in another viewer says the pence— in another viewer says the peace ere— in another viewer says the police did the _ in another viewer says the police did the right thing to area— police did the right thing to arrest these— police did the right thing to arrest these people . these arrest these people. these peepre— arrest these people. these peepre are— arrest these people. these people are like— arrest these people. these people are like disobedient schoolkids. _ people are like disobedient schoolkids. they're trying to

pren— schoolkids. they're trying to pwen rnerr— schoolkids. they're trying to push their opinions on other pretre— push their opinions on other paprre. rnar— push their opinions on other public. that brings her neatly enre— public. that brings her neatly enre ear— public. that brings her neatly onto our next— public. that brings her neatly onto our next debate . up next, onto our next debate. up next, rr-e— onto our next debate. up next, we rnrw— onto our next debate. up next, we rnrw ane— onto our next debate. up next, it's emily and she's going to raw— it's emily and she's going to raw re— it's emily and she's going to raw re re— it's emily and she's going to talk to us about— it's emily and she's going to talk to us about the protesters wne— talk to us about the protesters wne serena— talk to us about the protesters wne eeapnr re— talk to us about the protesters who sought to disrupt the coronation— who sought to disrupt the coronation should they have been arreereee— coronation should they have been arrested? folks— coronation should they have been arrested? folks emily? yes, this is arrested? folks emily? yes, this re a— arrested? folks emily? yes, this re a dd— arrested? folks emily? yes, this re a dd er— arrested? folks emily? yes, this re a dd er a— arrested? folks emily? yes, this is a bit of a carver— arrested? folks emily? yes, this is a bit of a carver palaver. r-nn — is a bit of a carver palaver. r-nn ner— is a bit of a carver palaver. r-nn net are— is a bit of a carver palaver. i'm not sure exactly- is a bit of a carver palaver. i'm not sure exactly where i sit on this. we've seen 52 arrests of protesters , utters a mixture of protesters, utters a mixture of protesters, utters a mixture of people protesting on behalf of people protesting on behalf of republic and the anti—monarchy campaign , as well anti—monarchy campaign, as well as just stop oil and probably a couple of extinction rebellion in there for good measure. why not now ? i'm unsure about this not now? i'm unsure about this because on the one hand, i think we need to have freedom to protest in this country. we are a liberal democracy . the king a liberal democracy. the king indeed that we have indeed ensures that we have those freedoms to live freely in england . but on the other hand, england. but on the other hand, the police have a pretty tough job to do. they need to keep this show on the road. they need to keep the coronation going. the procession ocean clean to allow the millions and millions

of people in britain and across the world to enjoy the spectacle. so i'm not sure what i think, but i want to get the views of toby young, who is the director of the free speech union, because he said he said, it's pity the organisers of it's a pity the organisers of the republican protest have been arrested , voted the right to arrested, voted the right to protest peaceful albie is fundamental to the british way of life and should be celebrated today along with everything else we value about our society. so toby is just going to join us very quickly now. toby, please, can you tell us why it was wrong for the police to stop these protesters ? well, it felt protesters? well, it felt a unre— protesters? well, it felt a mare drr— protesters? well, it felt a little bit heavy— 7 well, it felt a little bit heavy handed, emily. i little bit heavy handed, emily. r mean— little bit heavy handed, emily. i mean, we don't— little bit heavy handed, emily. i mean, we don't know- little bit heavy handed, emily. i mean, we don't know exactly what intelligence the police had and exactly what the protesters were planning to do. but according to the organisers of repubuc according to the organisers of republic , at least, they they republic, at least, they they they talk to the police, they'd explained to the police what they wanted to do. it was going to be they wanted to do. it was going re de a— they wanted to do. it was going to be a peaceful— they wanted to do. it was going to be a peaceful protest.- 3 r3r3r it was going to be a peaceful protest. they wen-enr— to be a peaceful protest. they werenr pene— to be a peaceful protest. they weren't going to— to be a peaceful protest. they weren't going to disrupt any of

the weren't going to disrupt any of rne—er— weren't going to disrupt any ofi the—or-ceremony the processions or the ceremony . se— the processions or the ceremony . se n— the processions or the ceremony . se n are— the processions or the ceremony . so it did feel— the processions or the ceremony . so it did feel a— the processions or the ceremony . so it did feel a little bit ane— . so it did feel a little bit over the top— . so it did feel a little bit over the top arrest them for over the top to arrest them for rear— over the top to arrest them for rear anar— over the top to arrest them for rear rnar anew— over the top to arrest them for fear that they might disrupt preeeeernpe— fear that they might disrupt preeeeernpe. — fear that they might disrupt proceedings . fear that they might disrupt proceedings. 33r3 proceedings. so i think had they disrupted proceedings , then disrupted the proceedings, then it fair to it would have been fair to arrest them. but until they did so, i think it would have been better to let the protest better to have let the protest go after all, the right to go ahead after all, the right to protest, to protest peacefully is the things we value is one of the things we value about our democratic society . about our democratic society. and it's one of the things i think amongst other things and it's one of the things i thinishouldjst other things and it's one of the things i thinishould have other things and it's one of the things i thinishould have beenther things and it's one of the things i thinishould have been celebrated that should have been celebrated today. yeah, completely today. yeah, i completely understand that. but do you think understand that. but do you rnrnk rnere— understand that. but do you think there might— understand that. but do you think there might be- l. 33 but do you think there might be just just parent.— think there might be just just ewrenw. ee— think there might be just just penny. ee rea— think there might be just just quickly, do you think there nonr— quickly, do you think there nrpnr de— quickly, do you think there might be argument considering might be an argument considering the might be an argument considering rne—srep- the fact we've seen just stop oil-rebellion- the fact we've seen just stop oil rebellion block oil extinction rebellion block rean— oil extinction rebellion block roads,-roads- oil extinction rebellion block roads,-roads ,- oil extinction rebellion block roads, roads , stick, roads, blockade roads, stick, vou— roads, blockade roads, stick, wea-ener— roads, blockade roads, stick, you-stick their- roads, blockade roads, stick, you stick their hands with you know, stick their hands with awe— you know, stick their hands with pwe-rean— you know, stick their hands with glue-road caused- you know, stick their hands with glue road caused mass glue to the road caused mass arerapnen— glue to the road caused mass arerapnen .— glue to the road caused mass disruption . listen, do you think disruption. listen, do you think were— disruption. listen, do you think there-argument- disruption. listen, do you think there argument say that disruption. listen, do you think theipolice argument say that disruption. listen, do you think theipolice had ument say that disruption. listen, do you think theipolice had to ent say that disruption. listen, do you think theipolice had to go say that disruption. listen, do you think theipolice had to go in, say that the police had to go in, pre—enpr— the police had to go in, pre—empt possible disruption, ernerwree— pre—empt possible disruption, otherwise lwould_ pre—empt possible disruption, otherwise would have been otherwise it would have been aerat— otherwise it would have been rent-ane— otherwise it would have been total-and ruined- otherwise it would have been total and ruined the day total chaos and ruined the day for potentially— total chaos and ruined the day for potentially millions of peepre— for potentially millions of peepre e — for potentially millions of people ? well,- for potentially millions of people ? 3:33“ 35 for potentially millions of people ? 35 people? well, i think i take a nuanced position on this, emily, which is i can understand why the police wouldn't have wanted

to take any risks with extinction rebellion and just stop oil given their antics . we stop oil given their antics. we wouldn't have wanted o l g 33 . t3 we wouldn't have wanted them denne— wouldn't have wanted them locking themselves to railings , locking themselves to railings, rnrewrnp— locking themselves to railings, throwing themselves in front of rewar— throwing themselves in front of royal eeanaee— throwing themselves in front of royal carriages and so forth . so royal carriages and so forth. so i royal carriages and so forth. so r rnrnn— royal carriages and so forth. so r rnrnk mappe— royal carriages and so forth. so i think maybe that was understandable. but the republican— understandable. but the republican protesters, as far as i republican protesters, as far as r anaererane— republican protesters, as far as i understand it,— republican protesters, as far as i understand it, just wanted to new— i understand it, just wanted to new ap— i understand it, just wanted to new wp yellow— i understand it, just wanted to hold up yellow placards saying not hold up yellow placards saying ner ear— hold up yellow placards saying ner king- — hold up yellow placards saying ner king- r— hold up yellow placards saying not our king. i don't in any way ernparnree— not our king. i don't in any way sympathise with— not our king. i don't in any way sympathise with their position, but sympathise with their position, an r— sympathise with their position, dar r are — sympathise with their position, but i do-their- sympathise with their position, but i do their right to but i do defend their right to peer— but i do defend their right to prereer . — but i do defend their right to protest . well,— but i do defend their right to protest . 3:33“ 3r3tr3; but i do defend their right to protest . 3:33“ tr3r3.3; but i do defend their right to protest. 3:33“ tr3r3.3; 33 but i do defend their right to protest. 33334. 33333 33 protest. well, there you go. the perfect response to perfect liberal response to there toby. toby will keep perfect liberal response to therin toby. toby will keep perfect liberal response to therin the toby. toby will keep perfect liberal response to therin the discussion, will keep perfect liberal response to therin the discussion, but keep perfect liberal response to therin the discussion, but we'll you in the discussion, but we'll come back to the panel as well to their views. who should to get their views. who should i go you any go to? patrick, do you have any sympathy for . no, go to? patrick, do you have any sympathy for. no, i don't. because what what people are rerpernnp— because what what people are forgetting about— because what what people are forgetting about all of this is anar— forgetting about all of this is rnar rnere— forgetting about all of this is that there is— forgetting about all of this is that there is a— forgetting about all of this is that there is a precedent that's deen— that there is a precedent that's been eer— that there is a precedent that's been eer rer— that there is a precedent that's been set for this— that there is a precedent that's been set for this kind of police aerrwrw— been set for this kind of police aerrwrw ane— been set for this kind of police activity, and that— been set for this kind of police activity, and that relates to reerdau— activity, and that relates to football hooliganism. and so if you-group— football hooliganism. and so if you-grouplpeople- football hooliganism. and so if you group people who you had a group of people who nappen— you had a group of people who nappen-nawe— you had a group of people who happen have millwall happen to all have millwall anne— happen to all have millwall shirts—there. happen to all have millwall- shirts_there going, happen to all have millwall shirgoing there going, happen to all have millwall shirgoing go there going, happen to all have millwall shirgoing go tshout oing, happen to all have millwall shirgoing go tshout and, i'm going to go and shout and scream llittle_ i'm going to go and shout and scream llittle bit,— i'm going to go and shout and scream little bit, then you scream a little bit, then you weare— scream a little bit, then you would unquestionably, through the would unquestionably, through rne-raerar— would unquestionably, through the facial recognition the use of facial recognition reennereer— the use of facial recognition. technology—used technology like the police used

in technology like the police used rn-new— technology like the police used rn-new nave- technology like the police used in-now have had- in this case. now have had the pence— in this case. now have had the police pre—emptively at and with this police pre—emptively at and with rnre rer— police pre—emptively at and with rnre rer ae— police pre—emptively at and with this lot as well. _ police pre—emptively at and with this lot as well. i— police pre—emptively at and with this lot as well. i interview peepre— this lot as well. i interview peepre ar— this lot as well. i interview peepre ar wer— this lot as well. i interview people at just stop on people at just stop oil on a repara— people at just stop oil on a. reparar—rnar regular basis. and i know that ante— regular basis. and i know that ante-was— regular basis. and i know that this-was republic- regular basis. and i know that this was republic as as this lot was republic as well as erner— this lot was republic as well as other-believed- this lot was republic as well as other-believedlbe. other groups believed to be rnwewee— other groups believed to be rnwewee .— other groups believed to be involved . they— other groups believed to be involved . they do themselves involved. they do see themselves as involved. they do see themselves ae-ear— involved. they do see themselves as-day suffragettes.- as modern day suffragettes. what did as modern day suffragettes. what are ane— as modern day suffragettes. what did the suffragettes threw did the suffragettes do? threw rneneewee— did the suffragettes do? threw themselves in— did the suffragettes do? threw themselves in front of the wne-e— themselves in front of the king's horse.— themselves in front of the king's horse. it- themselves in front of the king's horse. it would be king's horse. it would not be perenn— king's horse. it would not be- beyond—possibility beyond the realms of possibility anar— beyond the realms of possibility rnar—rnar- that something like that could nave— that something like that could nave-reear. - that something like that could have-today. but- that something like that could have -today. but i. that something like that could have today. but i also have happened today. but i also just have happened today. but i also tear-was— have happened today. but i also tear-was r..— have happened today. but i also tear-was in peer- have happened today. but i also just was in poor taste. have happened today. but i also jlunderstand was in poor taste. have happened today. but i also jlunderstand thatn poor taste. have happened today. but i also jlunderstand that there's:aste. have happened today. but i also jlunderstand that there's a;te. have happened today. but i also jlunderstand that there's a need i understand that there's a need for i understand that there's a need rer rreeeen — i understand that there's a need for freedom of— i understand that there's a need for freedom of speech, etcetera, but for freedom of speech, etcetera, dar n— for freedom of speech, etcetera, dar n ane— for freedom of speech, etcetera, but if the police— for freedom of speech, etcetera, but if the police thought that rnreapn— through intelligence that there was a really sick possibility anar— was a really sick possibility war-weare— was a really sick possibility that-would be- was a really sick possibility that-would be a- was a really sick possibility that would be a serious that there would be a serious harem,— that there would be a serious incident—n- incident, and i think it is reasonable— incident, and i think it is. reasonable _there reasonable to suspect there weare— reasonable to suspect there wearer—were reasonable to suspect there- would_were right would have been they were right to would have been they were right re per— would have been they were right re per rnen— would have been they were right to get them lifted.— would have been they were right to get them lifted. there could nave—n— to get them lifted. there could have _it could- to get them lifted. there could have—it could have. have been a bit it could have caused— have been a bit it could have. caused _though. caused some violence, though. benjami"r_ benjamin, couldn't it, if the anti monarchy protesters eaters had majorly disrupt the procession, you might have seen some monarchists get get a little outrage . there could have little outrage. there could have been a brawl. aslef you know a eeapre— been a brawl. aslef you know a eeapre er— been a brawl. aslef you know a couple of things,— 3 aslef you know a couple of things, patrick and makes— couple of things, patrick and makes a— couple of things, patrick and makes a reasonable point about it. makes a reasonable point aboutj it. _ intelligence it. could have been intelligence anar— it. could have been intelligence rnar—waen-r- it. could have been intelligence rnar—waen-r ae- that suggested it wasn't as rnneeenr— that suggested it wasn't as rnneeenr ae— that suggested it wasn't as innocent as was— that suggested it wasn't as innocent as was claimed in the wrat— innocent as was claimed in the wrar weeee— innocent as was claimed in the wrar weeee er— innocent as was claimed in the viral videos of them being named— viral videos of them being hauled off.— viral videos of them being hauled off-i- viral videos of them being hauled off. i would say hauled off. now, i would say anar— hauled off. now, i would say rnar-nanee—

hauled off. now, i would say that makes slippery slope that that makes a slippery slope arpanenr— that that makes a slippery slope argument because— that that makes a slippery slope argument because if police don't nave— argument because if police don't navelprewee— argument because if police don't have-provide any— argument because if police don't have provide any indication have to provide any indication or have to provide any indication er—rnar— have to provide any indication er—rnar anew- have to provide any indication or_that they hadi or intelligence that they had nae— or intelligence that they had nae any— or intelligence that they had had any justification . right. had any justification. right. ane— had any justification. right. and if— had any justification. right. and if we— had any justification. right. and if we don't— had any justification. right. and if we don't see the evidence for and if we don't see the evidence rer anae— and if we don't see the evidence rer rnar. rnen— and if we don't see the evidence for that, then actually that's giving— for that, then actually that's pwrnp pence— for that, then actually that's giving police officers blank giving police officers a blank eneen— giving police officers a blank check-protesters. giving police officers a blank- check - protesters when check to remove protesters when new— check to remove protesters when anew-er— check to remove protesters when anew-er nee— check to remove protesters when they or not, probably they like it or not, probably wra— they like it or not, probably wrrn ane— they like it or not, probably with the awareness of the home seereraw— with the awareness of the home secretary. advance _ with the awareness of the home secretary advance with an secretary in advance with an eeeaerene-s- secretary in advance with an occasion so think occasion like this. so i think anar— occasion like this. so i think war—ne- occasion like this. so i think. that—me.-also that would worry me. but also you— that would worry me. but alsoi rearnareee—n you think about pride marches, for you think about pride marches, rer exanpre— you think about pride marches, rer exanpre .— you think about pride marches, for example , in— you think about pride marches, for example , in central london. for example, in central london. vea— for example, in central london. yea—nae- for example, in central london. yea—nae wnar| you know, you have had what i weare— you know, you have had what i were earr— you know, you have had what i would call anti—trans protesters at would call anti—trans protesters ar rneee— would call anti—trans protesters ar rneee-een-r— would call anti—trans protesters at those don't behave in at those police don't behave in anar— at those police don't behave in war—se— at those police don't behave in rnar—se. rea- at those police don't behave in that—so, you know,| that way at all. so, you know, new— that way at all. so, you know, new can— that way at all. so, you know, new n— that way at all. so, you know, how can it be— that way at all. so, you know, how can it be one— that way at all. so, you know, how can it be one rule for an nne— how can it be one rule for an occasion like this— how can it be one rule for an occasion like this another occasion like this and another for occasion like this and another rer erneree— occasion like this and another for others? _the- occasion like this and another for others? the right to for others? i think the right to peer— for others? i think the right to prereer—anel protest is fundamental. and the paren— protest is fundamental. and the eaten-anne— protest is fundamental. and the eaten-rnrnplear- protest is fundamental. and the quick -thing.say is- quick third thing i'd say is anae— quick third thing i'd say is rnar. rea— quick third thing i'd say is that, you know, there were loads of that, you know, there were loads er—rn— that, you know, there were loads er—rn repara- of police officers in regular eternee— of police officers in regular clothes all— of police officers in regular clothes all over— of police officers in regular clothes all over that route. cnaneee— clothes all over that route. chances are. _ clothes all over that route. chances are. and so i'd like to anem— chances are. and so i'd like to see them fling— chances are. and so i'd like to see them fling themselves in rrenr— see them fling themselves in rrenr er— see them fling themselves in rrenr er ane— see them fling themselves in front of the horse. i suspect anew-e— front of the horse. i suspect anew-e per— front of the horse. i suspect they'd get stopped. r3; ' tr3; they'd get stopped. albie are they'd get stopped. albie are the conservatives becoming terribly authoritarian? you know, public know, this new public order bill, want down on bill, they want to clamp down on absolutely everything that could bill, they want to clamp down on abrdisruptive erything that could bill, they want to clamp down on abrdisruptive . i hing that could bill, they want to clamp down on abrdisruptive . i think hat could bill, they want to clamp down on abrdisruptive . i think we could bill, they want to clamp down on abrdisruptive . i think we are ld bill, they want to clamp down on abrdisruptive . i think we are in be disruptive. i think we are in danger— be disruptive. i think we are in danger er— be disruptive. i think we are in danger of creeping— r3 i think we are in danger of creeping into tolerance— danger of creeping into tolerance ,_ danger of creeping into tolerance , eating behaviour from tolerance, eating behaviour from

the government— tolerance, eating behaviour from the government and from the ene.— the government and from the erare. wnen — the government and from the state, which is— the government and from the state, which is more authoritarian. and you can't say,— authoritarian. and you can't ear. earner.— authoritarian. and you can't say, patrick, as— authoritarian. and you can't say, patrick, as we have debated nanr— say, patrick, as we have debated nanr rrnee— say, patrick, as we have debated nanr rrnee p..— say, patrick, as we have debated many times in this— say, patrick, as we have debated many times in this channel, that free— many times in this channel, that free epeeen— many times in this channel, that free epeeen re— many times in this channel, that free speech is under threat and men— free speech is under threat and rnen ear— free speech is under threat and then say something as ridiculous as r— then say something as ridiculous as i understand— then say something as ridiculous as i understand the need for nee— as i understand the need for nee-dar— as i understand the need for nee-dar ne- as i understand the need for free-but no, i'm- as i understand the need for free but no, i'm quite free speech. but no, i'm quite ewanpeuear— free speech. but no, i'm quite evangelical on— free speech. but no, i'm quite evangelical on this stuff. i een-r— evangelical on this stuff. i een-r rnrnn— evangelical on this stuff. i don't think the— evangelical on this stuff. i don't think the protesters enema— don't think the protesters should have— don't think the protesters should have been arrested before new— should have been arrested before new era— should have been arrested before new era anrrnrnp— should have been arrested before they did anything wrong. and we enema— they did anything wrong. and we should-evidence- they did anything wrong. and we should evidence led should employ evidence led penernp. — should employ evidence led penernp. dar— should employ evidence led policing. but the evidence that i policing. but the evidence that r nave— policing. but the evidence that r nave een— policing. but the evidence that i have seen is— policing. but the evidence that i have seen is that these are nepwpneane— i have seen is that these are republicans wanting to protest athoronation,_ republicans wanting to protest at coronation, which believe republicans wanting to protest at happenedi, which believe republicans wanting to protest at happened atvhich believe republicans wanting to protest at happened at every believe republicans wanting to protest at happened at every coronation has happened at every coronation war.— has happened at every coronation new. new— has happened at every coronation new. anew-were— has happened at every coronation well, they-were allowed- has happened at every coronation well, they -were allowed to. well, they still were allowed to protest, but obviously they took people that too close people away that were too close to the procession. i think, toby, to your last your toby, just to get your last your last thoughts on this , or do you last thoughts on this, or do you think there are double standards at it comes to at play when it comes to policing protests or indeed at play when it comes to polireactionirotests or indeed at play when it comes to polireaction to tests or indeed at play when it comes to polireaction to whenrr indeed at play when it comes to polireaction to when policezd the reaction to when police arrest people? you know, we've seen people arrested for rude tweets . us yeah , that's tweets. us yeah, that's obviously completely unaccept well, emily, one of the reasons we might have been given the impression of double standards is that the police now new

is that the police now have new powers under the public order act, didn't have act, which they didn't have before so weren't to before, so they weren't able to do easily before we do this as easily before we were promised. the public order promised. when the public order act promised. when the public order an wa— promised. when the public order an going— promised. when the public order act was going through— act was going through parliament,- act was going through parliament, new parliament, that these new peer— parliament, that these new pewere-aeee- powers would be used proportionately . they wouldn't proportionately. they wouldn't be proportionately. they wouldn't. be-access,-wouldn't be used to access, they wouldn't be used to access, they wouldn't de—peaeerarl be used to suppress peaceful perenn— be used to suppress peaceful prereere. se— be used to suppress peaceful prereere. se r— be used to suppress peaceful protests. so i think today his denawear.— protests. so i think today his behaviour, the— protests. so i think today his behaviour, the arrest of these prereerere— behaviour, the arrest of these protesters before _ behaviour, the arrest of these protesters before they'd engaged in any— protesters before they'd engaged in any disruptive— protesters before they'd engaged in any disruptive activity is a warning.— in any disruptive activity is a warning. an— in any disruptive activity is a warning, an end?— in any disruptive activity is a warning, an end? not a good one. were— warning, an end? not a good one. war, rnere— warning, an end? not a good one. war, rnere rea— warning, an end? not a good one. well, there you go. _ warning, an end? not a good one. well, there you go. 3 well, there you go. some food for thought. thanks,- well, there you go. 3 3 thanks, toby young, for thought. thanks, toby young, for thought. thanks, toby young, rer reining— for thought. thanks, toby young, rer rernrnp ae— for thought. thanks, toby young, rer rernrnp we en— for thought. thanks, toby young, for joining us on the— 3 thanks, toby young, for joining us on the saturday nwe— for joining us on the saturday rrwe. new.— for joining us on the saturday rrwe. new. r-n— for joining us on the saturday five. now, i'm just going to read— five. now, i'm just going to read ear— five. now, i'm just going to read ear a— five. now, i'm just going to read out a police statement out to read out a police statement out re-rner-we— read out a police statement out re-rner-we per-earl read out a police statement outj to _they've got-say . to see what they've got to say. they— to see what they've got to say. rner eate— to see what they've got to say. rner eare ee— to see what they've got to say. they said over the— to see what they've got to say. they said over the past 24 newe— they said over the past 24 newe-nae- they said over the past 24 hours,-has been- hours, there has been a significant— hours, there has been a significant operation significant police operation are— significant police operation after. received - significant police operation after received information, after we received information, prereerere— after we received information, protesters were _ after we received information, protesters were determined to arerwpr— protesters were determined to arerwpr rne — protesters were determined to disrupt the coronation procession— disrupt the coronation procession protest is lawful and it procession protest is lawful and n can— procession protest is lawful and n de— procession protest is lawful and it can be disruptive . we have it can be disruptive. we have peacea— it can be disruptive. we have policed numerous protests wrrnewr— policed numerous protests without intervention in the date— without intervention in the dare-ane— without intervention in the build the coronation and build up to the coronation and ewnnp— build up to the coronation and ewnnplse— build up to the coronation and during .so they're - build up to the coronation and during so they're saying during it. so they're saying ante— during it. so they're saying this exceptional this was exceptional circumstances, . anyway, circumstances, basic. anyway, enewpn— circumstances, basic. anyway, enewpn er— circumstances, basic. anyway, enough of that. _ circumstances, basic. anyway, enough of that. there's a lot of feed— enough of that. there's a lot of reed—dreaeel food for thought there. please do food for thought there. please

ere-knew— food for thought there. please do-know what- food for thought there. please do know what you think do let us know what you think adewr— do let us know what you think adewr anar— do let us know what you think about that one.— do let us know what you think about that one. it's a tricky -anrwar- about that one. it's a tricky one, anyway still one, i think. anyway still anew.— one, i think. anyway still ahead, on why ahead, benjamin's bugbear on why as ahead, benjamin's bugbear on why ae a rente— ahead, benjamin's bugbear on why ae a rerrre ne— ahead, benjamin's bugbear on why as a leftie he is— ahead, benjamin's bugbear on why as a leftie he is an— ahead, benjamin's bugbear on why as a leftie he is an unabashed, wnadaenee— as a leftie he is an unabashed, unabashed-of- as a leftie he is an unabashed, unabashed-of the- unabashed defender of the nenarenr— unabashed defender of the monarchy-will. unabashed defender of the . monarchy-will also monarchy and albie will also wnpren— monarchy and albie will also unpick-nation's- monarchy and albie will also unpick nation's young unpick why our nation's young peepre— unpick why our nation's young peepre-reerne— unpick why our nation's young people losing interest in people are losing interest in ne— people are losing interest in the institution— people are losing interest in the institution you're with. the sarwrear— the institution you're with. the sarwrear-en—

news. we will have open rational debate. we've got to work out how britain moves forward . how britain moves forward. welcome back to the saturday nwe— welcome back to the saturday rrwe. ae— welcome back to the saturday five. as always,— welcome back to the saturday five. as always, thank you very nwen— five. as always, thank you very nwen rer— five. as always, thank you very nwen rer au— five. as always, thank you very much for all your— five. as always, thank you very much for all your emails ronald has much for all your emails ronald nae warren— much for all your emails ronald has written in.— much for all your emails ronald has written in. he— much for all your emails ronald has written in. he says even prereerere— has written in. he says even protesters - day - has written in. he says even protesters day off and protesters need a day off and a cerenarren— protesters need a day off and a coronation is— protesters need a day off and a coronation is as— protesters need a day off and a coronation is as good a day as any.— coronation is as good a day as any. were— coronation is as good a day as any. rnere are— coronation is as good a day as any. there are at— coronation is as good a day as any. there are at least 364 erner— any. there are at least 364 erner ware— any. there are at least 364 other days when they can indulge in men— other days when they can indulge in rnerr hobbv-_ other days when they can indulge in their hobby. it— other days when they can indulge in their hobby. it is— other days when they can indulge in their hobby. it is a hobby. all in their hobby. it is a hobby. an nonr— in their hobby. it is a hobby. an npnr .— in their hobby. it is a hobby. all right . they— in their hobby. it is a hobby. all right . they have a right to all right. they have a right to peer.— all right. they have a right to prereer. wre— all right. they have a right to prereer. dre-a— all right. they have a right to protest. we a right to be protest. we have a right to be free— protest. we have a right to be free er— protest. we have a right to be free of-disruption- protest. we have a right to be free of disruption during free of their disruption during the free of their disruption during rne-rnpenanr- free of their disruption during the important for the most important day for eeeaeee.— the most important day fori decades._police. the most important day for- decades._police. you decades. well done, police. you eewne— decades. well done, police. you sound-reasonable. - decades. well done, police. you sound reasonable. ronald sound very reasonable. ronald i nwer— sound very reasonable. ronald i nwer-eawe— sound very reasonable. ronald i nwer-eawe ee- sound very reasonable. ronald i must says so. holding must say. nick says so. holding up a— must say. nick says so. holding wp a peer— must say. nick says so. holding wp a prereer-ar- must say. nick says so. holding up a protest-at the- up a protest banner at the king's— up a protest banner at the king's coronation is an arrestable_ king's coronation is an arrestable offence, but glueing wewreen— arrestable offence, but glueing yourself-road— arrestable offence, but glueing yourself-road and- yourself to a road and ererwpnnp— yourself to a road and- disrupting-including disrupting traffic, including ambulances— disrupting traffic, including ambulances it? the police ambulances isn't it? the police neee— ambulances isn't it? the police neee re— ambulances isn't it? the police neee re nave— ambulances isn't it? the police need to have a— ambulances isn't it? the police need to have a word with themselves— need to have a word with themselves as— need to have a word with themselves as well. there you go. themselves as well. there you 90--90in9-

themselves as well. there you. pe.-eernp-en go. but we're going to move on to go. but we're going to move on re-eedare.— go. but we're going to move on re-eedare. dp- go. but we're going to move on to-debate. up next,- to our next debate. up next, rr-e— to our next debate. up next, rte-de— to our next debate. up next, it's-be benjamin. to our next debate. up next, it's be benjamin and it's going to be benjamin and nee— it's going to be benjamin and nee-re— it's going to be benjamin and ne-e-re-we- it's going to be benjamin and he's-to-us about. it's going to be benjamin and he's to us about why he's going to tell us about why nee— he's going to tell us about why nee-a— he's going to tell us about why nee-a terry— he's going to tell us about why he's-a lefty and- he's both a lefty and a rewaner. — he's both a lefty and a royalist. yeah- he's both a lefty and a royalist. “333 he's both a lefty and a royalist. / �*jr3r he's both a lefty and a royalist. “333 jr3r he's both a lefty and a- royalist. yeah , do you know, royalist. yeah, do you know, i've been tweeting about this since the queen passed and i posted lots of remarks about how much she meant to me as she did so many others. and in the past few days, i've had lots of people saying how can you be on the left? and be a monarchist? well, it's easy. it's well, for me, it's easy. it's straightforward because you look at countries like america when they do pomp and ceremony and they do pomp and ceremony and they also do it quite well. it'll be all about a politician or a policy or a version of america. it is by definition, a divisive occasion because you're celebrating what half of the country liked and what the other half didn't like. and for me, as someone on the left, i believe in the commune in sharing, in people, being able to come together . and what i've people, being able to come together. and what i've found so moving in the last couple of daysis moving in the last couple of days is especially at a time like we have at the moment, when things really are pretty gloomy for a lot of people and it

doesn't like the country's doesn't feel like the country's generally in a great place. when doesn't feel like the country's genergoing a great place. when doesn't feel like the country's genergoing through place. when doesn't feel like the country's genergoing through the :e. when doesn't feel like the country's genergoing through the streetsn i was going through the streets of london there was bunting of london and there was bunting up flags and the pubs were up and flags and the pubs were busier than usual and it busier than usual and before it started down today, started pouring down today, there were people out the there were people out in the park know, park celebrating, you know, where i work opposite kensington palace was suddenly covered with people. many of them american, many of them other many of them from other countries coming here to celebrate something . and when celebrate something. and when they waving that flag , it they were waving that flag, it wasn't controversy. it wasn't wasn't a controversy. it wasn't a criticism of part of our culture. it was just a celebration of who we are. and for me, as someone on the left, i think something that in a time when we're so divided by social class and politics and politicians , you know, we politicians, you know, we support different football teams and watch different tv channels , but the vast majority of us come together on a day like this. and i think it's a moment when communities and families feel like they're on the same page. feel like they're on the same page . so, look, as a lefty , if page. so, look, as a lefty, if i were designing a country from scratch , the idea of saying one scratch, the idea of saying one bloke was chosen by god and his

family must rule for a thousand years, yeah, it would sound a bit silly, but in reality arnie i think it's something very, very special and we'd regret losing it. goodness me. tier to ane— losing it. goodness me. tier to rne ewe.— losing it. goodness me. tier to the eye. benjamin— 3g . goodness me. tier to the eye. benjamin god, there'll be the eye. benjamin god, there'll de peepre— the eye. benjamin god, there'll de peepre ar— the eye. benjamin god, there'll be people at home crying . pass be people at home crying. pass me a rreewe.— be people at home crying. pass me a tissue. that— be people at home crying. pass me a tissue. that was so sweet . me a tissue. that was so sweet. i me a tissue. that was so sweet. r rere— me a tissue. that was so sweet. r rewe rnar. — me a tissue. that was so sweet. r rewe rnar. r— me a tissue. that was so sweet. i love that. i think,— me a tissue. that was so sweet. i love that. i think, you know, it's often i think people have a family connection about that. i don't know whether any of you sort of feel that sense of continuity in your own lives as well of things that well as sort of the things that you the telly today. you watch on the telly today. hugely. grandma hugely. i mean, my grandma elizabeth, is of course, named watching, is of course, named after the queen, the then princess elizabeth. and she comes from a wing labour comes from a left wing labour voting family, she voting family, although she voted tory in 2019. but what i would say to lefties who are against the monarchy is there is against the monarchy is there is a huge and long standing tradition of left wing monarchism and actually there was that rumour that the queen herself of some of her favourite prime ministers were actual labour ministers rather labour prime ministers rather than tory prime ministers. so this idea that can't be a this idea that you can't be a left wing monarchist and you've got to be a republican is

nonsense. but i think that's the fault of the modern left and there's distinction here. there's a key distinction here. i modern left is very, i think the modern left is very, very— i think the modern left is very, very edeeeeee— i think the modern left is very, very obsessed dividing very obsessed with dividing peepre— very obsessed with dividing peepre-.- very obsessed with dividing peepre-. r- very obsessed with dividing people . i mean, very obsessed with dividing- people-. i mean, you people massively. i mean, you only— people massively. i mean, you enw nave— people massively. i mean, you enw nave re— people massively. i mean, you only have to look— people massively. i mean, you only have to look at the idea anar— only have to look at the idea rnar peepre— only have to look at the idea that people are— only have to look at the idea that people are now looking at anar— that people are now looking at rnar rewar— that people are now looking at that royal balcony, aren't they, ane— that royal balcony, aren't they, and—a- that royal balcony, aren't they, and—a terrifying| and going, oh, it's a terrifying aewnr— and going, oh, it's a terrifying amount-white— and going, oh, it's a terrifying amount white people amount of white people on it. yet amount of white people on it. yer-are— amount of white people on it. yet-arelfamily- amount of white people on it. yet-arelfamily of- amount of white people on it. yet are family of white yet they are a family of white peepre.—rne i yet they are a family of whitei peepre.—rne ten yet they are a family of whitei pthink,_the left yet they are a family of white pthink focuses the left yet they are a family of white pthink focuses so the left yet they are a family of white pthink focuses so much he left yet they are a family of white pthink focuses so much on left yet they are a family of white pthink focuses so much on this i think focuses so much on this nerewrewe— i think focuses so much on this ridiculous ideology . arnie ridiculous race ideology. arnie ane— ridiculous race ideology. arnie ana-dewar— ridiculous race ideology. arnie and royal family is white. and the royal family is white. t hey— they also absolutely unashamedly nare— they also absolutely unashamedly nare-.— they also absolutely unashamedly nare-. why?— they also absolutely unashamedly hate . why? because hate wealth. why? because anew-re— hate wealth. why? because they're jealous. _ hate wealth. why? because they're jealous. they're just adeerwrew— they're jealous. they're just absolutely jealous. and so the idea— absolutely jealous. and so the idea anar— absolutely jealous. and so the idea that people— absolutely jealous. and so the idea that people are surprised anar— idea that people are surprised rnar—rne— idea that people are surprised that-the left- idea that people are surprised that-the left can. that people on the left can aerwauw— that people on the left can actually monarchy that people on the left can actlfault monarchy that people on the left can actlfault of monarchy that people on the left can actlfault of the monarchy that people on the left can actlfault of the leftrnarchy that people on the left can actlfault of the left and hy that people on the left can actlfault of the left and the the fault of the left and the ren— the fault of the left and the ten arne — the fault of the left and the left alone. and— the fault of the left and the left alone. and benjamin, what do left alone. and benjamin, what ee-aerwauw— left alone. and benjamin, what do actually people do you actually say to people une— do you actually say to people nne- — do you actually say to people nne- reena— do you actually say to people like- then? what- do you actually say to people like - then? what do i do you actually say to people. like- then? what do you do you actually say to people- like- then? what do you say like that? then? what do you say to who say, oh, well, to people who say, oh, well, it's absolutely that it's absolutely ridiculous that we've of state from a we've got a head of state from a non family. apparently, non diverse family. apparently, you idea of this you know, the idea of this family all being white is a negative thing to certain pockets of the identity obsessed left of which you are one. i mean thanks . you flatter me, but mean thanks. you flatter me, but i remember in the days after the

queen passed, what, last september and there were photos that cropped up of her and the late prince philip dancing in mixed race dance partnerships back in the 1950s. now back then, a lot of people really were quite racist in this country and in many others in different directions. and the idea that our head of state was doing that back then would have been massively progressive and so you should celebrate so i think you should celebrate things that. benjamin, things like that. benjamin, i wish things like that. benjamin, i wen-nave— things like that. benjamin, i wen-nave a— things like that. benjamin, i. wish-have a conversation wish you'd have a conversation wra— wish you'd have a conversation wan—er- wish you'd have a conversation wrrn—er ane- wish you'd have a conversation with _of the lefti with some of some of the left deaee— with some of some of the left deaee anew— with some of some of the left because they seem to have so nwen— because they seem to have so nwen-rer— because they seem to have so nwen-rer ane- because they seem to have so much for the monarchy and much hatred for the monarchy and it much hatred for the monarchy and n epine— much hatred for the monarchy and n eprue eve— much hatred for the monarchy and it spills over into— much hatred for the monarchy and it spills over into what i see as a as a hatred— it spills over into what i see as a as a hatred of, of some darren— as a as a hatred of, of some british people— as a as a hatred of, of some british people as— as a as a hatred of, of some british people as well, if not dnrarn— british people as well, if not britain itself— british people as well, if not britain itself because and the eeene— britain itself because and the eeene re— britain itself because and the desire to also— britain itself because and the desire to also bring it down for erner— desire to also bring it down for erner peepre. — desire to also bring it down for other people. you— desire to also bring it down for other people. you know, you have the other people. you know, you have rne twee— other people. you know, you have rne twee er— other people. you know, you have the likes of owen— other people. you know, you have the likes of owen jones posting on the likes of owen jones posting en ane— the likes of owen jones posting en rne eav— the likes of owen jones posting en rne eav er— the likes of owen jones posting on the day of the— the likes of owen jones posting on the day of the coronation a big— on the day of the coronation a big wnee— on the day of the coronation a big video about— on the day of the coronation a big video about why we need to aderren— big video about why we need to adenen ane— big video about why we need to abolish the monarchy. you have peepre— abolish the monarchy. you have peepre twe— abolish the monarchy. you have people like kevin— abolish the monarchy. you have people like kevin maguire making a—eenp— people like kevin maguire making a—eene ane- people like kevin maguire making a_song and dance- a whole thing song and dance adewr— a whole thing song and dance adewr new— a whole thing song and dance about how he's— a whole thing song and dance about how he's on holiday and not about how he's on holiday and ner per— about how he's on holiday and not got nothing— about how he's on holiday and not got nothing to do with the cerenarren— not got nothing to do with the coronation hahaha it seems quite

eprre— coronation hahaha it seems quite eprre pun.— coronation hahaha it seems quite eprre rwu. rnev— coronation hahaha it seems quite spite full. they can't seem to wneererane— spite full. they can't seem to understand why— spite full. they can't seem to understand why anyone would enjoy— understand why anyone would enrev-epeeraere- understand why anyone would enjoy spectacle and why enjoy such a spectacle and why anvene— enjoy such a spectacle and why anenev wewre— enjoy such a spectacle and why anyone would would believe in a nenarenv.— anyone would would believe in a nenarenv. rr-e— anyone would would believe in a monarchy. it's so— anyone would would believe in a monarchy. it's so snobby but can i monarchy. it's so snobby but can r-daek— monarchy. it's so snobby but can r-daek ane— monarchy. it's so snobby but can i-back and can- monarchy. it's so snobby but can i-back and can i- monarchy. it's so snobby but can i-back and can i put- i put that back and can i put ante— i put that back and can i put rnre re— i put that back and can i put rnre re you? — i put that back and can i put this to you? jr3”r3;3 r3;r3; ' 33 this to you? darren lee anderson didn't ask the question. didn't even ask the question. the chair the tory the vice chair of the tory party, tweeted today , i think party, he tweeted today, i think rather spitefully that people who aren't monarchists should emigrate. they should leave the country. they don't like the country. if they don't like the monarchy. he wrote. monarchy. that's what he wrote. don't that kind of don't you think that kind of attitude unacceptable? don't you think that kind of attitudrhe's unacceptable? don't you think that kind of attitudrhe's seen unacceptable? don't you think that kind of attitudrhe's seen to acceptable? don't you think that kind of attitudrhe's seen to acce pockets i think he's seen to the pockets of the left who are seeking to denigrate and destroy british tradition in to turn round to those of us who believe in those traditions of you are one, traditions of which you are one, and tell them that what they have is nothing what they have, which is what people have fought for. for a thousand years of history. right the kings and queens of this country are all part of the rich tapestry of our nation's history. that is a beautiful thing. he is saying that those pockets of the left . that those pockets of the left. no, i'm not telling republicans to emigrate because you disagree. if you genuinely if you genuinely and passionately

hate britain and everything it stands for, then what are you doing? republicans, to leave the country ? he's telling people country? no, he's telling people he this country. think he this country. i don't think as an elected politician, deputy chairman of the don't vote for him, then you're telling people emigrate because you disagree. it is quite funny people it is quite funny when people say, my king, when just by say, not my king, when just by virtue of living in this country . unfortunately, your . unfortunately, he is your king-— . unfortunately, he is your nne-knew.— . unfortunately, he is your nne-knew. r- unfortunately, he is your king. know, i actually think king. you know, i actually think anene— king. you know, i actually think rnere re— king. you know, i actually think rnere re a— king. you know, i actually think there is a fair— king. you know, i actually think there is a fair bit— king. you know, i actually think there is a fair bit of racism going— there is a fair bit of racism pernp adewr— there is a fair bit of racism going about at— there is a fair bit of racism going about at the minute. ' 3 going about at the minute. and i think— going about at the minute. and i think-anti—british_ going about at the minute. and i think anti—british racism think he's anti—british racism actually a lot of the time people line up and say, people love to line up and say, oh, there's such as oh, there's no such thing as british sorry, what british culture. i'm sorry, what did today? find that did we see today? i find that personally offensive . there is personally offensive. there is very british culture and it very much british culture and it is amongst the finest and most refined in the world. we saw all the there on display the history there on display today. pageantry. we today. we saw the pageantry. we saw the ceremony saw the pomp and the ceremony and and everything and the hymns and everything dating back to a rich tapestry of britain and british culture. and people turn a blind eye and when people turn a blind eye to that and throw crass remarks out there about how there aren't any faces any differently coloured faces on balcony things on the royal balcony or things along actually along those lines, i actually find personally offensive. find that personally offensive.

and think a lot people , a and i think a lot of people, a lot do find that very, lot of people do find that very, very offensive and we shouldn't be shy about saying that also. it's unfortunate because be shy about saying that also. it's the nfortunate because be shy about saying that also. it's the pleasuree because be shy about saying that also. it's the pleasure ofrecause be shy about saying that also. it's the pleasure of walking up had the pleasure of walking up and aewn— had the pleasure of walking up and aewn ane— had the pleasure of walking up and down the mall, although i'm ewre—epenr- and down the mall, although i'm sure—spent more. sure patrick spent spent more newe— sure patrick spent spent more newre ewr— sure patrick spent spent more hours out there— sure patrick spent spent more hours out there than me. but anene— hours out there than me. but there—diversity. hours out there than me. but there—diversity ofj there was a total diversity of peepre— there was a total diversity of peepre rnere. — there was a total diversity of people there, people from all ane— people there, people from all over the world,— people there, people from all over the world, people coming fren— over the world, people coming from australia _ over the world, people coming from australia ,_ over the world, people coming from australia , african nations, from australia, african nations, the caribbean,— from australia, african nations, the caribbean, america to all ane— the caribbean, america to all over the world,— the caribbean, america to all over the world, coming to see ante— over the world, coming to see this spectacle.— over the world, coming to see this spectacle. they don't look at this spectacle. they don't look ar anar— this spectacle. they don't look at that balcony— this spectacle. they don't look at that balcony and think, oh, it's at that balcony and think, oh, we a— at that balcony and think, oh, we a ne— at that balcony and think, oh, we a we a— at that balcony and think, oh, it's a it's a bit— at that balcony and think, oh, it's a it's a bit white. so. benjamin— it's a it's a bit white. so. benjamin then how do you respond to benjamin then how do you respond re yew— benjamin then how do you respond re yew-ane— benjamin then how do you respond to your-and allies- benjamin then how do you respond to your and allies when to your friends and allies when new— to your friends and allies when new eav— to your friends and allies when new eav anar— to your friends and allies when they say that actually this is a prereeewe— they say that actually this is a grotesque amount of money that's dene— grotesque amount of money that's being epenr— grotesque amount of money that's being epenr ar— grotesque amount of money that's being epenr ar a— grotesque amount of money that's being spent at a time when, as vewve— being spent at a time when, as vewve deen— being spent at a time when, as you've been arguing, being spent at a time when, as you've been arguing , time in, you've been arguing, time in, fine— you've been arguing, time in, rime-yew— you've been arguing, time in, nne-yew neee- you've been arguing, time in, time-you need a- you've been arguing, time in, time you need a labour time out, you need a labour pevernnenr— time out, you need a labour government to— time out, you need a labour government to spend more of ravpaver— government to spend more of ravpaver nenev— government to spend more of taxpayer money on on benefits ane— taxpayer money on on benefits and au— taxpayer money on on benefits and au ane— taxpayer money on on benefits and all the rest— taxpayer money on on benefits and all the rest of— taxpayer money on on benefits and all the rest of it. 33334. and all the rest of it. well, reen— and all the rest of it. well, reek. re— and all the rest of it. well, look, is that— and all the rest of it. well, look, is that money i don't think anyone could spend more money than liz truss did. so she's to be any future she's going to be any future labour point. labour government at that point. but you know when those but you know what? when those people argument that people make the argument that there living in food there are people living in food banks a bloke in

banks while there is a bloke in a diamond, you posh hat, a diamond, you know, posh hat, that's not a ridiculous comment. thatis that's not a ridiculous comment. that is objective assessment that is an objective assessment of the country we're in. but my point i think and point is that i think and patrick almost made a good point and that's as good a it's a good it's as good a compliment as he's going to get from is that we divide ourselves in so many different ways . and it is a different ways. and it is a whole industry now. people revel in their division rather than unity. no, i think it cuts a lot of different ways, actually. i think you're deluding yourself if you don't think that darren. and when think about what and so when we think about what is culture, what that is british culture, what is that british we this is british identity, we and this is a that's been going on a question that's been going on since, you know, for some decades , at least the 20 decades now, at least the 20 years been politically years i've been politically conscious and i that conscious us and i think that when like when you see something like today, one of those very today, it is one of those very few that brings the vast few things that brings the vast majority of people together . and majority of people together. and when senior members the when these senior members of the royals have got 70 plus% support, ain't no politician getting that. not even penny morton also just the fact that people assume that if we tore it down, we'd be in a better place.

they have absolutely no evidence to they have absolutely no evidence re ewppeer— they have absolutely no evidence re ewppeer anar— they have absolutely no evidence to suggest that we— they have absolutely no evidence to suggest that we would be any way— to suggest that we would be any way derrer— to suggest that we would be any way derrer err— to suggest that we would be any way were err .— to suggest that we would be any way better off . and but what we way better off. and but what we eewre — way better off. and but what we eewre nave— way better off. and but what we could have lost— way better off. and but what we could have lost would be so wen— could have lost would be so vaer. rr-e— could have lost would be so vast. it's almost— could have lost would be so vast. it's almost hard to hard to vast. it's almost hard to hard re rnaprne— vast. it's almost hard to hard re rnaprne . — vast. it's almost hard to hard to imagine . also,- vast. it's almost hard to hard to imagine. vast. it's almost hard to hard to imagine . 3g to imagine. also, the argument about pomp and pageantry costing about pomp and pageantry costing a lot of money is nonsense. it's almost like you're saying germany and america don't do pomp and pageantry, even though they're republics. i mean, of course , we'd still do pomp and course, we'd still do pomp and pageantry. it just wouldn't be as special as what we saw today. just quickly well for just quickly as well for the arpwnenr— just quickly as well for the argument for— just quickly as well for the argument for getting them argument for getting rid of them as argument for getting rid of themj ae—aerwauv as heads of state would actually eeer— as heads of state would actually eeerlreaee— as heads of state would actually cost-loads because- as heads of state would actually cost loads because they would cost us loads because they would anen— cost us loads because they would anen-renn— cost us loads because they would then-retain all— cost us loads because they would then-retain all-the- then just retain all of the pretre— then just retain all of the. profits—estate profits that the royal estate aeek — profits that the royal estate aeek nann— profits that the royal estate makes. that vast, makes. and that is vast, aerwauv.— makes. and that is vast, actually. would makes. and that is vast,- actually.-would make actually. so that would make arpwadrv— actually. so that would make arewapw ane— actually. so that would make arguably the royal family even weannrer— arguably the royal family even wealthier—now. arguably the royal family eveni wealthier—now and wealthier than they are now and the wealthier than they are now and rne ravpaver— wealthier than they are now and the taxpayer-worse- wealthier than they are now and the taxpayer worse off than the taxpayer even worse off than new— the taxpayer even worse off than anew-wen.— the taxpayer even worse off than they-well, there - the taxpayer even worse off than they well, there you they are now. well, there you 90- _ they are now. well, there you we. nean— they are now. well, there you we. near de— they are now. well, there you go. -can be left- they are now. well, there you go. -can be left wing. they are now. well, there you go. t 3 3g 3 go. you can be left wing and also a monarchist. nice also a monarchist. that's nice to stuff. still ahead to hear. good stuff. still ahead , albie gives his verdict. we'll give his on it seems give his verdict on why it seems the of britain are the youth of britain are not taking much of an interest in the monarchy or king's the monarchy or the king's coronation saturday coronation you're the saturday five on .

gb news. welcome gb news.- iwelcome back gb news.- i welcome back to en newe- — . welcome back to the saturday welcome back to the saturday five, as - welcome back to the saturday five, as-cheers._ . welcome back to the saturday five, as-cheers. very- five, as always. cheers. very nwen— five, as always. cheers. very nwen-vewr- five, as always. cheers. very much your emails much for all of your emails adewr— much for all of your emails about tonight's— much for all of your emails about tonight's topics. christine's— about tonight's topics. christine's written in. he says, wnar— christine's written in. he says, wnar a— christine's written in. he says, what a brilliant— christine's written in. he says, what a brilliant monologue from benjamin-— what a brilliant monologue from benjamin. there— what a brilliant monologue from benjamin. there we are. it drewpnr— benjamin. there we are. it drewpnr a— benjamin. there we are. it brought a tear— benjamin. there we are. it brought a tear to all of our ewee— brought a tear to all of our evee. ane— brought a tear to all of our eyes. and good— brought a tear to all of our eyes. and good to remember the cerenarren— eyes. and good to remember the coronation today— eyes. and good to remember the coronation today isn't about ten— coronation today isn't about ten er— coronation today isn't about ten er nonr— coronation today isn't about left or right politics. it's deen— left or right politics. it's been a— left or right politics. it's been a great— left or right politics. it's been a great uniting day. there we dp— been a great uniting day. there we are now. up next, it's albie. ane— we are now. up next, it's albie. ana nee— we are now. up next, it's albie. and we going— we are now. up next, it's albie. and he's going to— we are now. up next, it's albie. and he's going to talk about why young— and he's going to talk about why vewnp drre— and he's going to talk about why young brits haven't been too enamoured with— young brits haven't been too enamoured with the king's cerenarren— enamoured with the king's coronation there you go, albie. so coronation there you go, albie. se were— coronation there you go, albie. so we're actually— coronation there you go, albie. so we're actually doing eenernrnp— so we're actually doing something very odd this evening for something very odd this evening er a— something very odd this evening er a dwnen— something very odd this evening for a bunch of— something very odd this evening for a bunch of people in their dee— for a bunch of people in their dee ane— for a bunch of people in their dee and see — for a bunch of people in their 20s and 30s. we're actually raking— 20s and 30s. we're actually talking about— 20s and 30s. we're actually talking about the coronation deaee— talking about the coronation because we really care about the cerenarren— because we really care about the coronation but— because we really care about the coronation but yougov polling newne— coronation but yougov polling rewne anar— coronation but yougov polling found that actually in the two vewnpeer— found that actually in the two vewnpeer ape— found that actually in the two youngest age cohorts in the uk, twea— youngest age cohorts in the uk, we ee— youngest age cohorts in the uk, we ee. r— youngest age cohorts in the uk, we re r mean— youngest age cohorts in the uk, just 68, i mean, sorry, 68% of drre— just 68, i mean, sorry, 68% of

dnre een-r— just 68, i mean, sorry, 68% of brits don't care— just 68, i mean, sorry, 68% of brits don't care about the nenarenv. — brits don't care about the monarchy. now why might this be er— monarchy. now why might this be er ane— monarchy. now why might this be some of the progressives and the eeerauere— some of the progressives and the eeerauere er— some of the progressives and the socialists of the— some of the progressives and the socialists of the world would be eavrne — socialists of the world would be eavrne rr-e— socialists of the world would be saying it's because— socialists of the world would be saying it's because they don't rnrnk— saying it's because they don't rnrnk anar— saying it's because they don't think that the _ saying it's because they don't think that the monarchy fits in wra— think that the monarchy fits in win ane— think that the monarchy fits in with the diversity equity and rnerweren— with the diversity equity and inclusion mindset of today's young-— inclusion mindset of today's vewnp. deaee— inclusion mindset of today's young. because let's face it, anene-e— young. because let's face it, there's nothing— young. because let's face it, there's nothing equitable about nenarenv— there's nothing equitable about nenarenv .— there's nothing equitable about nenarenv . dwa— there's nothing equitable about monarchy . but i— there's nothing equitable about monarchy. but i think that's rerauv— monarchy. but i think that's rerauv wrenp— monarchy. but i think that's totally wrong ._ monarchy. but i think that's totally wrong . i— monarchy. but i think that's totally wrong . i think it's just totally wrong. i think it's just adewr— totally wrong. i think it's just adewr a— totally wrong. i think it's just about a simple— totally wrong. i think it's just about a simple matter of convenience— about a simple matter of convenience ._ about a simple matter of convenience . and about our age. convenience. and about our age. were— convenience. and about our age. were an— convenience. and about our age. we're all probably— convenience. and about our age. we're all probably going to see at we're all probably going to see ar reaer— we're all probably going to see ar reaer awe— we're all probably going to see at least two more— we're all probably going to see at least two more coronation wrrnrn— at least two more coronation wrrnrn ew— at least two more coronation within our lifetimes of william ane— within our lifetimes of william and george-— within our lifetimes of william and genre or— within our lifetimes of william and george. of course , the and george. of course, the wearner— and george. of course, the weather was _ and george. of course, the weather was awful. today, it's in ne— weather was awful. today, it's in the middle— weather was awful. today, it's in the middle of— weather was awful. today, it's in the middle of exam season and rere— in the middle of exam season and were race— in the middle of exam season and were raee n.— in the middle of exam season and let's face it, i'm— in the middle of exam season and let's face it, i'm sure— in the middle of exam season and let's face it, i'm sure a lot of peepre— let's face it, i'm sure a lot of peepre nave— let's face it, i'm sure a lot of people have better things to do wne— people have better things to do wne are— people have better things to do wne vewne— people have better things to do who are young than stay inside ane— who are young than stay inside and warenrnp— who are young than stay inside and warenrnp .— who are young than stay inside and watching , watching and watching, watching a television— and watching, watching a television show essentially . so television show essentially. so i television show essentially. so r een-r— television show essentially. so r een-r rnrnk— television show essentially. so i don't think it— television show essentially. so i don't think it proves that young— i don't think it proves that young pewte— i don't think it proves that young people are a bunch of raping— young people are a bunch of raging republicans. but dentantn— raging republicans. but denranrn. r— raging republicans. but benjamin, i am interested in war— benjamin, i am interested in wnar yew— benjamin, i am interested in wnar vew nae— benjamin, i am interested in what you had to— benjamin, i am interested in what you had to say about this, deaee— what you had to say about this, deaee r-n— what you had to say about this, because i'm glad— what you had to say about this, because i'm glad someone is. you aerwauv— because i'm glad someone is. you aerwauv eenr— because i'm glad someone is. you actually sent in.— because i'm glad someone is. you actually sent in. you— because i'm glad someone is. you actually sent in. you actually eenr— actually sent in. you actually eenr a— actually sent in. you actually eenr a rearw— actually sent in. you actually sent a really interesting tweet, daereauv— sent a really interesting tweet, basically saying— sent a really interesting tweet, basically saying that as a young

peeen— basically saying that as a young peeen .— basically saying that as a young peee . yew— basically saying that as a young peee . vew ren— basically saying that as a young person , you felt that you person, you felt that you enewren-r— person, you felt that you shouldn't be— person, you felt that you shouldn't be excited about the nenarenv.— shouldn't be excited about the monarchy, about— shouldn't be excited about the monarchy, about the coronation but monarchy, about the coronation dwr r..— monarchy, about the coronation an in race— monarchy, about the coronation an in race yew— monarchy, about the coronation but in fact, you are . what made but in fact, you are. what made you— but in fact, you are. what made vew eene— but in fact, you are. what made vew eene anar— but in fact, you are. what made you send that tweet? well, i rnrnk— you send that tweet? well, i rnrnk a— you send that tweet? well, i rnrnk anen— you send that tweet? well, i think a .of young - you send that tweet? well, i think a of young people think a lot of young people daereauv— think a lot of young people basically think— think a lot of young people basically think it's uncool. you knew.— basically think it's uncool. you knew. r— basically think it's uncool. you knew. r eaw— basically think it's uncool. you know, i saw someone who said anen— know, i saw someone who said rnerr ren— know, i saw someone who said rnerr ren wear— know, i saw someone who said their ten year old,— know, i saw someone who said their ten year old, i think it errner— their ten year old, i think it was either younger or was either younger sibling or nepnew— was either younger sibling or nepnew nae— was either younger sibling or nephew had said, you very nephew had said, you know, very neparrve— nephew had said, you know, very neeanve rnrnee— nephew had said, you know, very negative things about how they nare— negative things about how they nare ane— negative things about how they hate the royal— negative things about how they hate the royal family and i was raeernaree— hate the royal family and i was fascinated-but- hate the royal family and i was fascinated-but i- hate the royal family and i was fascinated but i think fascinated by that. but i think anae— fascinated by that. but i think rnar. yew— fascinated by that. but i think that, you know,— fascinated by that. but i think that, you know, when i was growing— that, you know, when i was growing-in— that, you know, when i was growing-in-sort- that, you know, when i was. growing-in-sortlcool growing up in the sort of cool dnrannra— growing up in the sort of cool britannia years— growing up in the sort of cool britannia years the britannia years in the newpnnee.— britannia years in the noughties, then the monarchy was still noughties, then the monarchy was errw perry— noughties, then the monarchy was still pretty cool, _ noughties, then the monarchy was still pretty cool, but it's kind of still pretty cool, but it's kind er reer— still pretty cool, but it's kind of lost that. _ still pretty cool, but it's kind of lost that. and— still pretty cool, but it's kind of lost that. and to one point i wewre— of lost that. and to one point i wewre nake— of lost that. and to one point i would make and— of lost that. and to one point i would make and it's something wevea- eewpre— would make and it's something we've-a couple of- would make and it's something we've a couple of times, we've hit on a couple of times, eepeerauv— we've hit on a couple of times, especially-some- especially sort of some of darren's opinions, darren's wrong opinions, you knew— darren's wrong opinions, you knew-raw— darren's wrong opinions, you know-talk about- know, you talk about the ervererrv— know, you talk about the- diversity—element diversity and the racial element ane— diversity and the racial element and-er— diversity and the racial element and-er nary- diversity and the racial element and-of harry and- and the effect of harry and nepnan— and the effect of harry and nepnan-twer- and the effect of harry and meghan just sort of and the effect of harry and- meghan _just sort of want meghan and you just sort of want to meghan and you just sort of want re-awav— meghan and you just sort of want re-awav ane— meghan and you just sort of want re-awav ane eaw- meghan and you just sort of want to away and say, oh, to wipe it away and say, oh, anew-re— to wipe it away and say, oh, rnev-re—rer-e they're just a problem. let's renere— they're just a problem. let's ignore-actually- they're just a problem. let's ignore actually think ignore them. i actually think they—a- ignore them. i actually think rnev—a big- ignore them. i actually think. they—a big influence they have quite a big influence on they have quite a big influence en vewnper— they have quite a big influence on younger britons and young peepre— on younger britons and young peepre aewn— on younger britons and young people around the world, and we do people around the world, and we we nearer— people around the world, and we we derrer re— people around the world, and we do better to manage the kind of pernre—adewr- points they're making about eween.— points they're making about diversity. darren i just want to prek— diversity. darren i just want to pick wp— diversity. darren i just want to pick wp en— diversity. darren i just want to pick wp en anar— diversity. darren i just want to pick up on that point because

aerwauv— pick up on that point because aerwauv rne — pick up on that point because actually the age— pick up on that point because actually the age cohort where nary— actually the age cohort where narrv ane— actually the age cohort where harry and meghan still have peerrrve— harry and meghan still have peernve ner— harry and meghan still have positive net ratings are the vewneer— positive net ratings are the vewnper ape— positive net ratings are the younger age cohorts, is there eenernrne— younger age cohorts, is there eenernrnp p..— younger age cohorts, is there something in what benjamin is eavrnp— something in what benjamin is eavrne .— something in what benjamin is eavrne . nave— something in what benjamin is saying , have harry and meghan saying, have harry and meghan rwrnee— saying, have harry and meghan rwrnee ane— saying, have harry and meghan ruined the royals— saying, have harry and meghan ruined the royals in the eyes of the ruined the royals in the eyes of rne young?— ruined the royals in the eyes of the young? look,— ruined the royals in the eyes of the young? look, i— ruined the royals in the eyes of the young? look, i think there's a very— the young? look, i think there's a very ernpre— the young? look, i think there's a very simple solution. all we neee— a very simple solution. all we need-re— a very simple solution. all we need-is raise— a very simple solution. all we need _is raise the - a very simple solution. all we need is raise the voting need to do is raise the voting age— need to do is raise the voting are re— need to do is raise the voting age relane— need to do is raise the voting age to i and .the - need to do is raise the voting age to and the property age to 50 and add the property qualification— age to 50 and add the property qualification to— age to 50 and add the property qualification to that as well , qualification to that as well, so qualification to that as well, ee anar— qualification to that as well, ee rnar ane— qualification to that as well, so that the only— qualification to that as well, so that the only people can vote are so that the only people can vote rneee— so that the only people can vote are those with— so that the only people can vote are those with sensible opinions . dwa— are those with sensible opinions . dwr en— are those with sensible opinions . dwr en a— are those with sensible opinions . but on a serious— are those with sensible opinions . but on a serious note , i am . but on a serious note, i am eernr— . but on a serious note, i am semi serious though it has to be eae.— semi serious though it has to be eae. r— semi serious though it has to be eae. r reeenk— semi serious though it has to be said. i reckon the— semi serious though it has to be said. i reckon the younger generarrene— said. i reckon the younger generations have always had were— generations have always had anar— generations have always had rnar pe— generations have always had views that go against the grain . nonre— views that go against the grain . npnre r— views that go against the grain . nonre r een-r— views that go against the grain , right? i don't think that in rezo— , right? i don't think that in rozo weare— , right? i don't think that in 1020 years time— , right? i don't think that in 1020 years time there are going to 1020 years time there are going re de— 1020 years time there are going re de peepre— 1020 years time there are going to be people that— 1020 years time there are going to be people that look at, you knew.— to be people that look at, you knew. r— to be people that look at, you knew. r nepe— to be people that look at, you know, i hope king— to be people that look at, you know, i hope king charles goes on know, i hope king charles goes en ane— know, i hope king charles goes en and en— know, i hope king charles goes on and on and— know, i hope king charles goes on and on and on.— know, i hope king charles goes on and on and on. but when it erane— on and on and on. but when it erane re— on and on and on. but when it starts to become— on and on and on. but when it starts to become clear that it's going— starts to become clear that it's pernp re— starts to become clear that it's pernp re de— starts to become clear that it's going to be william's time to be not going to be william's time to be ner ne— going to be william's time to be ner ne longer— going to be william's time to be not no longer prince of wales, dwa— not no longer prince of wales, dwr re— not no longer prince of wales, dwr re de— not no longer prince of wales, dwr re de ane— not no longer prince of wales, but to be the monarch of erran— but to be the monarch of britain, actually people britain, that actually people are-enewpn— britain, that actually people are-enewpn .— britain, that actually people are enough , mature enough, are old enough, mature enough, ugly— are old enough, mature enough, wow enewpn— are old enough, mature enough, wow enewpn re— are old enough, mature enough, ugly enough to have actually ane— ugly enough to have actually seen the worst— ugly enough to have actually seen the worst vestiges of life ane— seen the worst vestiges of life and readee — seen the worst vestiges of life and realise that— seen the worst vestiges of life and realise that this this one prece— and realise that this this one

piece er— and realise that this this one piece er nappe— and realise that this this one piece of magic that unites all of piece of magic that unites all er we— piece of magic that unites all er we r..— piece of magic that unites all er we in ne— piece of magic that unites all of us in the beautiful way that, you— of us in the beautiful way that, vew knew.— of us in the beautiful way that, vew knew. n— of us in the beautiful way that, you know, it unites— of us in the beautiful way that, you know, it unites someone on the you know, it unites someone on rne nonr— you know, it unites someone on rne npnr er— you know, it unites someone on the right of british— you know, it unites someone on the right of british politics, up..— the right of british politics, be me— the right of british politics, like me and— the right of british politics, like me and someone the left like me and someone on the left of like me and someone on the left er darren— like me and someone on the left of british politics— like me and someone on the left of british politics like denranrn.— of british politics like benjamin. hope they recognise benjamin. i hope they recognise anar— benjamin. i hope they recognise rnar r..— benjamin. i hope they recognise rnar rn wra— benjamin. i hope they recognise that in with age,— benjamin. i hope they recognise that in with age, because with age— that in with age, because with age comes experience. also, were-e— age comes experience. also, anere-e deen— age comes experience. also, anere-e daen a— age comes experience. also, there's been a lot of talk about, you know , updating the about, you know, updating the coronation, making the royals more relevant to the younger generations . and i'm not sure generations. and i'm not sure making the royal family hip or look hip is actually going to bnng look hip is actually going to bring young people on side. and also, i would dispute what you said , that young people aren't said, that young people aren't interested in the coronation because maybe in the build up they haven't really been interested . but i think quite a interested. but i think quite a lot of young people will have found tuning into the found themselves tuning into the coronation today. certainly because it's been pouring with rain and actually thinking this is an amazing, an incredible moment. and yes, there will be people being like being saying, oh, terrible? he's all oh, isn't it terrible? he's all dressed in gold. oh, my god. how much you think those diamonds much do you think those diamonds cost crown? but actually,

cost in his crown? but actually, i will struck i think it will have struck a chord quite a lot of young chord with quite a lot of young people. but imean, people. but patrick, i mean, i rnrnk— people. but patrick, i mean, i think-undeniable.- but patrick, i mean, i think undeniable. all the think it's undeniable. all the race— think it's undeniable. all the raere-rnere. — think it's undeniable. all the facts there. evidence is facts are there. the evidence is anene.— facts are there. the evidence is anene-neee— facts are there. the evidence is there. _does seem - facts are there. the evidence is there. does seem to a there. there does seem to be a areeenneer— disconnect between young brits and-nanny- disconnect between young brits and-family but- disconnect between young brits and-family but is- disconnect between young brits and family but is it and the royal family but is it any— and the royal family but is it any ende— and the royal family but is it any wonder when _ and the royal family but is it any wonder when we are seeing ranewe— any wonder when we are seeing ranewe fin — any wonder when we are seeing famous film stars— any wonder when we are seeing famous film stars like adjoa aneen— famous film stars like adjoa aneen en— famous film stars like adjoa andoh on itv_ famous film stars like adjoa andoh on itv today saying what you andoh on itv today saying what yew nenrrenee— andoh on itv today saying what you mentioned earlier on? you knew.— you mentioned earlier on? you knew. anar— you mentioned earlier on? you knew. rnar re— you mentioned earlier on? you know, that is a— you mentioned earlier on? you know, that is a terribly white peepre— know, that is a terribly white peepre en— know, that is a terribly white peepre en anar— know, that is a terribly white people on that on that balcony. i people on that on that balcony. r een-r— people on that on that balcony. r een-r knew— people on that on that balcony. i don't know if— people on that on that balcony. i don't know if we— people on that on that balcony. i don't know if we can get an image— i don't know if we can get an image er— i don't know if we can get an image er anae— i don't know if we can get an image of that. now for the for the image of that. now for the for rne vrewere— image of that. now for the for the viewers to _ image of that. now for the for the viewers to see. but is it any— the viewers to see. but is it any ende— the viewers to see. but is it any wonder that— the viewers to see. but is it any wonder that young people are dene— any wonder that young people are dene-err— any wonder that young people are dene-err dy— any wonder that young people are being off by monarchy being turned off by the monarchy if being turned off by the monarchy n rnar-e— being turned off by the monarchy n rnar-e wnar— being turned off by the monarchy if that's what stars— being turned off by the monarchy if that's what stars saying? if that's what stars are saying? vea— if that's what stars are saying? you—thei you know what, one flaw in the polling of young people polling for me of young people is that it doesn't actually poll kids. and i was up and kids. right and i was up and down the mail just all throughout the course this throughout the course of this week. that was week. and one thing that was absolutely undeniable was the amount of very young children there. yeah , of course they there. and yeah, of course they were there their were there with their grandparents. were there with their grarthey're ts. were there with their grarthey're brainwashed. say they're brainwashed. patrick well, no, no, no, say they're brainwashed. - patrick well, no, no, no, maybe. dwa— patrick well, no, no, no, maybe. dar n— patrick well, no, no, no, maybe. dar d yew— patrick well, no, no, no, maybe. dar d yew aen— patrick well, no, no, no, maybe. but if you ask .you_ patrick well, no, no, no, maybe. but if you asklyou ask- patrick well, no, no, no, maybe. but if you asklyou ask the- but if you ask if you ask the very kids, they'll go, oh, very young kids, they'll go, oh, i absolutely love the king and the queen, i love the royal the queen, and i love the royal family something family and then something i

would argue quite natural happens, which is you just happens, which is that you just grow bit. you get grow up a little bit. you get into teenage and you into your teenage years and you start to at you start to look at it and you think, a minute. think, well, hang on a minute. who is this? this unelected person at the with of person at the top with loads of money grow out money and then you just grow out of right? and i think of that, right? and i think that's happening. of that, right? and i think that'sis happening. of that, right? and i think that'sis i happening. of that, right? and i think that'sis i think happening. of that, right? and i think that'sis i think as happening. of that, right? and i think that'sis i think as wellppening. of that, right? and i think that'sis i think as well forrning. what is i think as well for a lot of young people now, quite potentially quite difficult. there real way there is no real way of massively justifying the unelected and wealth elements of the monarchy . okay. you can say, the monarchy. okay. you can say, yes, bring a bit more yes, they bring in a bit more than they take. you can than than they take. and you can say, it's all about say, well, it's all about history. know that sort history. we all know that sort of stuff. but just the pure facts of i completely facts of it, i completely understand people say understand why people would say that something needs change, that something needs to change, especially 21, especially if you're 18, 19, 21, etcetera. they etcetera. but actually what they are there is are not counting for there is the sometimes are not counting for there is the doesn'ttimes are not counting for there is the doesn't have to make something doesn't have to make sense in order sense on a spreadsheet in order for you to love it and like it and want to keep it. and that's what i think the royal family is. and actually, that's what i say— is. and actually, that's what i eay adewr— is. and actually, that's what i eay adewr ny— and actually, that's what i say about my drinking habits. arse.— say about my drinking habits. arse. ree— say about my drinking habits. arse. rr-e just— say about my drinking habits. also, it's just a— say about my drinking habits. also, it's just a bit— say about my drinking habits. also, it's just a bit student union, isn't it? you know, i mean, people have been making all the arguments, the cons of monarchy. we've all heard them.

we all were in those we were all were in those history . we all in history lessons. we all were in those politics lessons at school. we've all done that debate know what the debate before. we know what the pros and cons are. you're not clever because suddenly are clever because you suddenly are talking about virtues of a talking about the virtues of a republic. so what's the solution?— republic. so what's the solution? how- t. so what's the solution? how does the royal nanny— solution? how does the royal family become— solution? how does the royal family become relevant to family become more relevant to young— family become more relevant to yewnp-wru— family become more relevant to yewnp-wru we- family become more relevant to young-will we just- young people? will we just get rever— young people? will we just get even wra— young people? will we just get clever with age,— young people? will we just get clever with age, does the clever with age, or does the nenareny— clever with age, or does the nenareny-re- clever with age, or does the monarchy to modernise in monarchy need to modernise in enter—wee— monarchy need to modernise in enter-wee r— monarchy need to modernise in order-us? i think- monarchy need to modernise in order us? i think this order to entice us? i think this idea— order to entice us? i think this idea anar— order to entice us? i think this idea rnar n— order to entice us? i think this idea that it doesn't need that, you— idea that it doesn't need that, yew-dene— idea that it doesn't need that, yew-dene nip- idea that it doesn't need that, you being hip might ruin you know, being hip might ruin it a you know, being hip might ruin rr—a drr— you know, being hip might ruin it_a bit naive,- it. i think it's a bit naive, aerwauy.— it. i think it's a bit naive, actually, because for quite a rene— actually, because for quite a went fine— actually, because for quite a long rrne .— actually, because for quite a long nne . yew— actually, because for quite a long time , you know, since the long time, you know, since the age — long time, you know, since the aee er— long time, you know, since the age er rne — long time, you know, since the age of the mass— long time, you know, since the age of the mass media, it has reanee— age of the mass media, it has reanee r..— age of the mass media, it has reanee in re— age of the mass media, it has leaned in to popular cultural leaned into popular cultural newee.— leaned in to popular cultural newee. re— leaned in to popular cultural figures, to actors, to pop erae— figures, to actors, to pop erae yew— figures, to actors, to pop stars, you know, ant and dec in ne— stars, you know, ant and dec were in the pews— stars, you know, ant and dec were in the pews today when even er— were in the pews today when even er ane— were in the pews today when even some of the king's— were in the pews today when even some of the king's own relatives , some of the king's own relatives . rerarrvery— some of the king's own relatives , relatively close— some of the king's own relatives , relatively close relatives, ner— , relatively close relatives, were not invited. so i think it neee— were not invited. so i think it eeee neee— were not invited. so i think it eeee neee re— were not invited. so i think it does need to use— were not invited. so i think it does need to use those people ane— does need to use those people and r— does need to use those people and r rnrnk— does need to use those people and i think it— does need to use those people and i think it also— does need to use those people and i think it also has to be adewr— and i think it also has to be aware about racial diversity. rr-e— aware about racial diversity. rr-e rar— aware about racial diversity. we ran nee— aware about racial diversity. it's far more at— aware about racial diversity. it's far more at the forefront of it's far more at the forefront er yewnp— it's far more at the forefront of young people's minds. it's far more at the forefront of young people's minds . and to of young people's minds. and to twea— of young people's minds. and to we erenree— of young people's minds. and to just dismiss some— of young people's minds. and to just dismiss some of those perme— just dismiss some of those points,-would. points, i think it would daektre— points, i think it would backfire-the- backfire. well, the commonwealth, of course, the neyar— commonwealth, of course, the neyar-re— commonwealth, of course, the royal-is aware - commonwealth, of course, the royal is aware diverse royal family is aware of diverse city royal family is aware of diverse any r..— royal family is aware of diverse any in anar— royal family is aware of diverse city in that regard,—

royal family is aware of diverse city in that regard, right? nu..— city in that regard, right? ardre r-n— city in that regard, right? albie i'm .we - city in that regard, right? albie i'm we all agree with albie i'm sure we all agree with anae— albie i'm sure we all agree with rnar. r— albie i'm sure we all agree with that. i actually— albie i'm sure we all agree with that. i actually think the royal nanny— that. i actually think the royal raniy nae— that. i actually think the royal family has been— that. i actually think the royal family has been quite a leading vene— family has been quite a leading en new— family has been quite a leading voice on how institutions and erpanreanen— voice on how institutions and organisation are— voice on how institutions and organisation are dealing with the organisation are dealing with rne reewe— organisation are dealing with the issue issues— organisation are dealing with the issue issues that have been mentioned— the issue issues that have been highlighted more— the issue issues that have been highlighted more recently about raerar— highlighted more recently about racial disparities— highlighted more recently about racial disparities that we have r— racial disparities that we have seen. i actually— racial disparities that we have seen. i actually think they've nene— seen. i actually think they've were rare— seen. i actually think they've eene ewrre a— seen. i actually think they've done quite a good job on that. sene— done quite a good job on that. sene peepre— done quite a good job on that. some people would say there's erm— some people would say there's earn-ee— some people would say there's earn-we. ru— some people would say there's still do, but actually still work to do, but i actually rnrnk— still work to do, but i actually wink-nanny- still work to do, but i actually think-family have. think the royal family have naneree—l think the royal family have. handled_. okay. handled that very well. okay. were— handled that very well. okay. were-re— handled that very well. okay. we're-to have- handled that very well. okay. we're _to have to - handled that very well. okay. we're to have to leave we're going to have to leave it anene.— we're going to have to leave it anene-dwa— we're going to have to leave it there,-butlwant- we're going to have to leave it there,-butlwant to- we're going to have to leave it there, but want to say there, folks. but i want to say rnank— there, folks. but i want to say wank-re— there, folks. but i want to say rnank-re ny— there, folks. but i want to say thank to my absolutely thank you to my absolutely dnrrranr— thank you to my absolutely brilliant-it's- brilliant panel. it's been a crack— brilliant panel. it's been a crack ane— brilliant panel. it's been a crack and show— brilliant panel. it's been a crack and show and it's also deen— crack and show and it's also been a— crack and show and it's also been a really— crack and show and it's also been a really lovely day. so rnank— been a really lovely day. so rnank yew— been a really lovely day. so thank you for— been a really lovely day. so thank you for joining been a really lovely day. so thank you forjoining us on this thank you for joining us on this epeerar— thank you for joining us on this epeerar nay— thank you for joining us on this special day really— thank you for joining us on this special day really does mean a ren— special day really does mean a ten wve-ve— special day really does mean a ten wve-ve per— special day really does mean a lot. we've got one— special day really does mean a lot. we've got one more email fren— lot. we've got one more email nen wne.— lot. we've got one more email from june, presumably a scottish . sne— from june, presumably a scottish viewer . she says— from june, presumably a scottish viewer . she says so little of viewer. she says so little of seerrane— viewer. she says so little of scotland was— viewer. she says so little of scotland was in— viewer. she says so little of scotland was in the ceremony anar— scotland was in the ceremony rnar n— scotland was in the ceremony that it wasn't— scotland was in the ceremony that it wasn't worth watching . that it wasn't worth watching. it that it wasn't worth watching. n wa— that it wasn't worth watching. n ear— that it wasn't worth watching. n eat an— that it wasn't worth watching. it was sat on a— that it wasn't worth watching. it was sat on a scottish - that it wasn't worth watching. it was sat on a scottish stone. it was sat on a scottish stone. it was, yes, the stone of scone . yes, stone of scone. stone of deetny— . yes, stone of scone. stone of deerrny. ne— . yes, stone of scone. stone of destiny. he was.— yes, stone of scone. stone of destiny. he was. and that goes way— destiny. he was. and that goes way pack— destiny. he was. and that goes way daek rnar. — destiny. he was. and that goes way back that. but next up, rewe.— way back that. but next up, rewe. rr-e— way back that. but next up, folks, it's the _ way back that. but next up, folks, it's the brilliant mark deran— folks, it's the brilliant mark dolan. thanks— folks, it's the brilliant mark dolan. thanks for watching, rewe. — dolan. thanks for watching, rewe. see— dolan. thanks for watching, folks. see you— dolan. thanks for watching, folks. see you next week .

folks. see you next week. hello there.— folks. see you next week. hello there. rm— folks. see you next week. hello there. r-nn greg— folks. see you next week. hello there. i'm greg dewhurst and welcome to your latest gb news forecast from the met office. we've got rain showers in the forecast through the rest of the long weekend, but there will be some warm, sunny spells, particularly through sunday. you can weather chart, can see on the weather chart, we've brief ridge high we've got a brief ridge of high pressure sunday to pressure moving in for sunday to settle down for a time. settle things down for a time. but it's not long before further weather systems move in from the atlantic to give some wet and windy on monday. it's windy weather on monday. it's quite through quite cloudy out there through the saturday evening. the rest of saturday evening. patchy rain across the eastern side of the uk, largely dry further but a lot of cloud further west, but a lot of cloud around into the early hours and the risk of some light rain and drizzle in places , some mist and drizzle in places, some mist and murk too. but temperatures holding up as a result. 11 or 12 degrees for many of us to start sunday morning . best of the sunday morning. best of the sunshine across western parts of the uk. quite grey across the east, particularly along the coast with some rain and drizzle in places. but it should brighten through the day brighten up here through the day . developing, . some sunny spells developing, but also the risk of a few heavy showers , plenty of spells

showers, plenty of sunny spells across of the uk, across the rest of the uk, almost in places across almost unbroken in places across central southern england. and this will lift temperatures 2122 celsius possible in the best of the sunshine into the evening time just starts to cloud over across northern ireland. western scotland as the next set of weather systems move in some low cloud affecting eastern coast of england and scotland into the early hours. and then overnight this band of rain slowly pushes its way in affecting western areas . the its way in affecting western areas. the rain could be its way in affecting western areas . the rain could be heavy areas. the rain could be heavy at times. the winds picking up, the clearer skies holding on across the south—east. temperatures again remaining in double figures, perhaps a murky start in the southeast, 1 or 2 mist fog patches, but some mist and fog patches, but some sunshine, elsewhere, wet sunshine, too. elsewhere, wet start to the day. outbreaks of rain . rain could be heavy at rain. rain could be heavy at times, accompanied by some strong through the irish strong winds through the irish sea it just slowly pushes sea, and it just slowly pushes its north eastwards its way north and eastwards through perhaps east through the day. perhaps east anglia on to the driest anglia holding on to the driest weather over the next few days into week. it stays largely into next week. it stays largely unsettled. temperatures above average .

hello and welcome. this is - hello and welcome. this is carvrn-e— . hello and welcome. this is calvin's commonsense- hello and welcome. this is calvin's commonsense crusade . calvin's commonsense crusade. wran— calvin's commonsense crusade. wrrn ne— calvin's commonsense crusade. wrrn ane— calvin's commonsense crusade. with me, the reverend calvin nedrneen— with me, the reverend calvin nedrneen en— with me, the reverend calvin robinson on your— with me, the reverend calvin robinson on your tv online and on robinson on your tv online and en yew— robinson on your tv online and on your wireless. _ robinson on your tv online and on your wireless. 3 3. on your wireless. today, we will be discussing the importance of queen camilla with royal butler grant harold. plus, we'll be joined by the venerable dr. hassan to john discuss the persecution of christians in nigeria. we'll also be joined by the deputy director of the catholic union to discuss the coronation and whether or not it was anti—catholic flick and in the duel , my panellists will be the duel, my panellists will be discussing , should we have had discussing, should we have had a multi—faith coronation or not? emma webb what are your thoughts? briefly arnie i think it's thoughts? briefly arnie i think we nne— thoughts? briefly arnie i think

we nne re— thoughts? briefly arnie i think it's fine to include— 37 arnie i think it's fine to include people from