houday holiday monday. holiday monday . today, holiday monday. today, in light of the king's coronation. but do you think actually we may have too many bank holidays? some people , including one of my people, including one of my panellists tonight , think, in panellists tonight, think, in fact, we should abolish them, do away with them all. do you think it was right to have a bank houday it was right to have a bank holiday today to mark the coronation action? then i want to talk about zero hours contracts. why because some

companies, particularly the delivery types, the ones that delivery types, the ones that deliver you groceries in less than 15 minutes, a sneakily moving a back or planning to move back to zero hour contracts because it's cheaper and easier for them when it comes to staffing. but do you think they're fair? do you think they should be banned altogether? do you think they're antiquated by now? even? let me know what you think. and then we've seen the government has come out with various proposals to make getting gp appointments easier for you i. one of them is to for you and i. one of them is to train receptionists at gp's to be what they call care navigators, so they can essentially tell you when you phone up for a gp appointment, no, just go to a pharmacist. they'll sort you out. what do you make of that? and finally labour have been doing some work. been coming up labour have been doing some work some been coming up labour have been doing some work some manifestooming up labour have been doing some work some manifesto pledges) labour have been doing some work some manifesto pledges for with some manifesto pledges for the next election . they the next general election. they want crack down on foreign want to crack down on foreign buyers of properties here. they think this is one solution to the housing crisis. what do you think of that? do you think they should be taxed more heavily? do

you think that first time buyers in should get priority in britain should get priority when comes new when it comes to new developments? let know. we've developments? let me know. we've got that to come tonight got all of that to come tonight on dewbs& co. with me, emily carver. but let's get the carver. but first, let's get the latest headlines with polly latest news headlines with polly . emily thank you. good evening. the top— . emily thank you. good evening. the top story— . emily thank you. good evening. the he she eh— . emily thank you. good evening. the top story on gb— . emily thank you. good evening. the top story on gb news- the top story on gb news tenteht— the top story on gb news tonight, four— the top story on gb news tonight, four new official photographs— tonight, four new official photographs have been released of her— photographs have been released of their majesties_ photographs have been released of their majesties , the king and of their majesties, the king and teen— of their majesties, the king and queen, he heu— of their majesties, the king and queen, as well as— of their majesties, the king and queen, as well as other members of queen, as well as other members et the— queen, as well as other members of the heyeh— queen, as well as other members of the royal family.— queen, as well as other members of the royal family. the hehhhe— of the royal family. the portraits were - of the royal family. the portraits were taken on coronation— portraits were taken on coronation day itself with the king— coronation day itself with the hhg htetutee— coronation day itself with the king pictured in— coronation day itself with the king pictured in full regalia in the king pictured in full regalia in the throne— king pictured in full regalia in the throne room— king pictured in full regalia in the throne room at buckingham heheee— the throne room at buckingham palace. queen— the throne room at buckingham palace. queen camilla is also htetutee— palace. queen camilla is also htetutee th— palace. queen camilla is also pictured in the— palace. queen camilla is also pictured in the new releases. she-e— pictured in the new releases. she-e th— pictured in the new releases. she-e he the— pictured in the new releases. she's in the green drawing room ahe— she's in the green drawing room and te— she's in the green drawing room and te weehhe— she's in the green drawing room and is wearing queen mary's crown and robe— and is wearing queen mary's crown and robe of a state. the king— crown and robe of a state. the king ahe— crown and robe of a state. the king also released— crown and robe of a state. the king also released a coronation message— king also released a coronation message thanking all those who a pm— message thanking all those who e heh ef— message thanking all those who were a part of the— message thanking all those who were a part of the historic occasion and— were a part of the historic occasion and pledging to re eeeheete— occasion and pledging to re dedicate his— occasion and pledging to re dedicate his life to service . dedicate his life to service. heehwhhe— dedicate his life to service. meanwhile the— dedicate his life to service. meanwhile the prince and these— meanwhile the prince and princess of— meanwhile the prince and princess of wales and their three— princess of wales and their three children— princess of wales and their three children join millions of

vetuhteet— three children join millions of volunteer hours— three children join millions of volunteer hours today for the the— volunteer hours today for the the day— volunteer hours today for the the day ef— volunteer hours today for the final day of coronation celebrations.- final day of coronation celebrations. the king's grandchildren were helping eeeuet— grandchildren were helping eeeuet th— grandchildren were helping scouts in berkshire for the big hehh— scouts in berkshire for the big heth eh— scouts in berkshire for the big heth eut .— scouts in berkshire for the big heth eut . ahe— scouts in berkshire for the big help out . and after a day of help out. and after a day of hhhhhh— help out. and after a day of painting, digging, help out. and after a day of painting, digging , they toasted painting, digging, they toasted some marshmallows and tried theh— some marshmallows and tried theh hehe— some marshmallows and tried their hand at— some marshmallows and tried their hand at archery. the prime hthteteh— their hand at archery. the prime hthteteh whe— their hand at archery. the prime minister, who was— their hand at archery. the prime minister, who was preparing food at minister, who was preparing food etlvtttege— minister, who was preparing food atlvillage hall— minister, who was preparing food atlvillage hall in— at a village hall in hertfordshire, praised the weekend-e— hertfordshire, praised the weekend's celebrations and its eemmuhhy— weekend's celebrations and its community spirit— weekend's celebrations and its community spirit like this that thee— community spirit like this that the eu— community spirit like this that binds our country— community spirit like this that binds our country together. he— binds our country together. it's fantastic— binds our country together. it's fantastic to _ binds our country together. it's fantastic to be- binds our country together. it's fantastic to be a- binds our country together. it's fantastic to be a part of it here today and help out myself . now, on the weekend, myself. now, on the weekend, i think no other country in the world could put on such a dazzling spectacle . and it was dazzling spectacle. and it was a proud expression of our history, our culture, our traditions , but our culture, our traditions, but also a reflection of the modern character of our country. it was deeply moving to be in the coronation service and incredibly uplifting and it's an experience i think, that nobody will forget for the rest of their lives. meanwhile, the the — their lives. meanwhile, the prime minister— their lives. meanwhile, the prime minister has- ” c meanwhile, the prime minister has been backing the metropolitan— prime minister has been backing the metropolitan police as it faces— the metropolitan police as it faces criticism _ the metropolitan police as it faces criticism over arrests made— faces criticism over arrests made during— faces criticism over arrests made during the kings coronation.— made during the kings coronation. 64 people in total

were arrested— coronation. 64 people in total were arrested ,_ coronation. 64 people in total were arrested , including some were arrested, including some hem— were arrested, including some from the— were arrested, including some from the republic anti—monarchy group— from the republic anti—monarchy group ahe— from the republic anti—monarchy group and the— from the republic anti—monarchy group and the environmental eettvtet— group and the environmental eettvtet group— group and the environmental activist group just stop oil. tehhh— activist group just stop oil. rishi sunak_ activist group just stop oil. rishi sunak says officers acted heeee— rishi sunak says officers acted heeee eh— rishi sunak says officers acted based on what— rishi sunak says officers acted based on what they thought was heet. — based on what they thought was heet. huh— based on what they thought was best. but graham— based on what they thought was best. but graham smith, the ceo of teehuhhe— best. but graham smith, the ceo of republic, called— best. but graham smith, the ceo of republic, called it a direct etteeh— of republic, called it a direct etteeh eh— of republic, called it a direct attack on democracy . the attack on democracy. the gevemment— attack on democracy. the government plans to give £240 hhheh— government plans to give £240 hhheh te— government plans to give £240 hhheh te eh— government plans to give £240 million to gp practises this year— million to gp practises this year te— million to gp practises this year to improve— million to gp practises this year to improve basic services. the— year to improve basic services. the money— year to improve basic services. the money will— year to improve basic services. the money will be— year to improve basic services. the money will be used to end the so—called_ the money will be used to end the so—called 8— the money will be used to end the so—called 8 am. scramble to get the so—called 8 am. scramble to he eh— the so—called 8 am. scramble to get an appointment— the so—called 8 am. scramble to get an appointment and to thheeuee— get an appointment and to introduce an— get an appointment and to introduce an online booking eyetem— introduce an online booking system. receptionists will also have— system. receptionists will also have additional— system. receptionists will also have additional roles to speed up the— have additional roles to speed up the heehhg— have additional roles to speed up the booking process . but up the booking process. but shadow— up the booking process. but shadow health— up the booking process. but shadow health minister andrew ewyhhe— shadow health minister andrew ewyhhe tem— shadow health minister andrew gwynne told gb— shadow health minister andrew gwynne told gb news more still heede— gwynne told gb news more still needs te— gwynne told gb news more still needs to he— gwynne told gb news more still needs to be done— gwynne told gb news more still needs to be done . “mt; needs to be done. there's nothing in it that will train more doctors that will enable patients to use a face to face appointment or that will bring back the family gp. it's a very shallow tinkering around at the edges. what we really ought to have had was the government's work force strategy, something

we've been calling for on the labour benches for some time. that sets out how we are going to get the extra doctors, the extra staff in the nhs that we need to be able to transform the into the service. we want it to be. ukraine has accused russia of firing— be. ukraine has accused russia of firing drones— be. ukraine has accused russia of firing drones at— ukraine has accused russia of firing drones at multiple ehtee— of firing drones at multiple cities, including over 30 at the eehheh— cities, including over 30 at the eehheh hyh— cities, including over 30 at the eehheh hyh .— cities, including over 30 at the capital kyiv . officials also capital kyiv. officials also eteth— capital kyiv. officials also claim russia _ capital kyiv. officials also claim russia plans to take eehheh— claim russia plans to take eehhet ef— claim russia plans to take control of the— claim russia plans to take control of the key city of hehhmut— control of the key city of hehhhut hy— control of the key city of bakhmut by tomorrow , which is bakhmut by tomorrow, which is hueehh— bakhmut by tomorrow, which is russian victory— bakhmut by tomorrow, which is russian victory day. mean while heeheeht— russian victory day. mean while president zelenskyy will meet the president zelenskyy will meet the preeheeht— president zelenskyy will meet the president of— president zelenskyy will meet the president of the european cemmheeheh— the president of the european cehhheheh ,— the president of the european commission , ursula von der commission, ursula von der teyeh— commission, ursula von der leyen, tomorrow— commission, ursula von der leyen, tomorrow to discuss a new eu leyen, tomorrow to discuss a new tu eupheh— leyen, tomorrow to discuss a new eu support package. former uhehhh— eu support package. former ukrainian president petro poroshenko_ ukrainian president petro poroshenko says russian eggreeeheh— poroshenko says russian aggression has to stop . we have aggression has to stop. we have eeeheyee— aggression has to stop. we have destroyed civil— aggression has to stop. we have destroyed civil an— aggression has to stop. we have destroyed civil an object and the— destroyed civil an object and he he— destroyed civil an object and he he the— destroyed civil an object and this is just very— destroyed civil an object and this is just very easy to understand. - this is just very easy to understand. s this is just very easy to understand. " : this is just very easy to- understand. putin does not stop shelling ukraine. and the only way how we can stop putin is our

joint victory like we do in the six second world war today there was anti—hitler coalition. today we create the anti putin coalition the first minister of scotland has been accused of negligence for delaying a mental health pledge erg. the proposal aims to recruit— health pledge erg. the proposal aims to recruit an— 33 k the proposal aims to recruit an additional hoo— aims to recruit an additional 1000 mental— aims to recruit an additional 1000 mental health workers and hrevhee— 1000 mental health workers and prevhee every— 1000 mental health workers and prevhee every eh— 1000 mental health workers and provide every gp practise with access to a wellbeing service by the access to a wellbeing service by the year— access to a wellbeing service by the year we.— access to a wellbeing service by the year 2026. but— access to a wellbeing service by the year 2026. but it's been on here— the year 2026. but it's been on here the— the year 2026. but it's been on here the te— the year 2026. but it's been on hold due to the— the year 2026. but it's been on hold due to the so—called thheuh— hold due to the so—called difficult decisions in november's emergency budget the— november's emergency budget review. the scottish labour party— review. the scottish labour harry eeye— review. the scottish labour party says mental health is low on the— party says mental health is low on the government's priority the,— on the government's priority her, her— on the government's priority her, he the— on the government's priority list, but the government says it is list, but the government says it he eerhrhtttee— list, but the government says it is committed to— list, but the government says it is committed to improving the eervteee— is committed to improving the eervteee ee— is committed to improving the eervteee he a— is committed to improving the services as a new— is committed to improving the services as a new bill calling for services as a new bill calling her eerherthee— services as a new bill calling for companies to— services as a new bill calling for companies to follow a proper eeee— for companies to follow a proper eeee eh— for companies to follow a proper code of practise— for companies to follow a proper code of practise when removing uheete— code of practise when removing unsafe cladding— code of practise when removing unsafe cladding from buildings is unsafe cladding from buildings he the— unsafe cladding from buildings he the te— unsafe cladding from buildings he the te he— unsafe cladding from buildings is due to be tabled in parliament. - is due to be tabled in parliament. eight residents in one tower block— parliament. eight residents in one tower block in ipswich charmed—

one tower block in ipswich claimed they— one tower block in ipswich claimed they were deprived of freeh— claimed they were deprived of treeh err— claimed they were deprived of fresh air and— claimed they were deprived of fresh air and national light when— fresh air and national light when r— fresh air and national light when a construction company rerhevhg— when a construction company rerhevhe the— when a construction company removing the dangerous cladding also removing the dangerous cladding etee wrapped— removing the dangerous cladding also wrapped the— removing the dangerous cladding also wrapped the building in tum— also wrapped the building in film without— also wrapped the building in film without informing them. conservative— film without informing them. conservative mp _ film without informing them. conservative mp tom hunt is thtreeuehe— conservative mp tom hunt is introducing the— conservative mp tom hunt is introducing the cladding remediation— introducing the cladding remediation works bill, calling for remediation works bill, calling her hetter— remediation works bill, calling for better communication with reeteehte— for better communication with residents and— for better communication with residents and clearer information- residents and clearer information on completion times . tee-re— information on completion times . tee-re uh— information on completion times her-re up te— information on completion times . you're up to date— information on completion times . you're up to date on tv online .you're up to date on tv online hehr — .you're up to date on tv online hehr rehe— .you're up to date on tv online dab+ radio and— .you're up to date on tv online dab+ radio and on— .you're up to date on tv online dab+ radio and on the tune in app— dab+ radio and on the tune in app -— dab+ radio and on the tune in are . thre— dab+ radio and on the tune in are . the re— dab+ radio and on the tune in are . thte he he— dab+ radio and on the tune in app . this is gb news, britain's app. this is gb news, britain's news. channel welcome to dewbs & news. channel- welcome to dewbs & co news. channel— welcome to dewbs & co with chehher— welcome to dewbs & co with me, welcome to dewbs& co with me, thhy— welcome to dewbs& co with me, my carver.— welcome to dewbs& co with me, thttycerver. — welcome to dewbs& co with me, emily carver. i'm— welcome to dewbs& co with me, emily carver. : g " emily carver. i'm standing in for michelle today, joining me until seven my panel, joe phillips, political commentator and ben habib, ceo of the first property group and a member of the reform party . now, you can the reform party. now, you can get in touch with us throughout the show. please do, gb views, gbnews.uk or tweet us at gb

news. now, today, the nation is enjoying an extra public holiday to mark the king's coronation this year we have had nine pubuc this year we have had nine public holidays or we will have nine public holidays in total. if we look at other countries in europe, the uk might be considered less than generous in terms of bank holidays. finland has 15. in other european states have around 12. some people argue that too many days off is bad for the economy. others say that any potential economic cost is offset by a boost in general well—being. now ben, not to put you on the spot here, but i've heard i've heard from my producers that you have quite a quite a strong view on this one. well, it was i'm going to defend the well, it was i'm going to defend the heehheh.— well, it was i'm going to defend the position. it— well, it was i'm going to defend the position. it was— well, it was i'm going to defend the position. it was a throwaway the— the position. it was a throwaway the eh— the position. it was a throwaway the on the— the position. it was a throwaway line on the telephone. but, you knew,— line on the telephone. but, you knew, he— line on the telephone. but, you knew, he yer— line on the telephone. but, you know, as you said— line on the telephone. but, you know, as you said in your tweet, eetuehy— know, as you said in your tweet, eerrehy, thhy— know, as you said in your tweet, actually, emily, bringing you etretght— actually, emily, bringing you straight back— actually, emily, bringing you straight back into the crosshairs_ straight back into the crosshairs this discussion. crosshairs of this discussion. ver— crosshairs of this discussion. you knew,— crosshairs of this discussion. you knew, yer— crosshairs of this discussion. you know, you wait for bank heheey—yeul you know, you wait for bank. holiday _you know, holiday for ages and you know, a bit holiday for ages and you know, a hh the— holiday for ages and you know, a bit like buses,— holiday for ages and you know, a bit like buses, they— holiday for ages and you know, a bit like buses, they all turn up at bit like buses, they all turn up et the— bit like buses, they all turn up et the same— bit like buses, they all turn up at the same time.— bit like buses, they all turn up at the same time. and think bit like buses, they all turn up at the for�*ne time. and think bit like buses, they all turn up at the for�*ne 1personally think

bit like buses, they all turn up at the for�*ne 1personally ,hink bit like buses, they all turn up at the for�*ne 1personally , was a today for me personally, was a beer— today for me personally, was a bank heheey— today for me personally, was a bank holiday too— today for me personally, was a bank holiday too far. today for me personally, was a bank holiday too far . you know, bank holiday too far. you know, we had— bank holiday too far. you know, we had we— bank holiday too far. you know, we had we had— bank holiday too far. you know, we had we had a— bank holiday too far. you know, we had we had a bank holiday the— we had we had a bank holiday last weekend— we had we had a bank holiday last weekend and, you know, mayhe— last weekend and, you know, maybe th— last weekend and, you know, rheyhe th e— last weekend and, you know, maybe i'm a bit— last weekend and, you know, maybe i'm a bit of a scrooge y hee— maybe i'm a bit of a scrooge y hhe er— maybe i'm a bit of a scrooge y kind of character,— maybe i'm a bit of a scrooge y kind of character, but i wanted to kind of character, but i wanted te he— kind of character, but i wanted te he beeh— kind of character, but i wanted te he heeh th— kind of character, but i wanted to be back in the— kind of character, but i wanted to be back in the office this rherhhg. — to be back in the office this rherhhg. t— to be back in the office this rherhhg. r ger— to be back in the office this morning. i got up and i thought, wen,— morning. i got up and i thought, weh, wher— morning. i got up and i thought, weh, whet eh— morning. i got up and i thought, well, what am i— morning. i got up and i thought, well, what am i going to do teeeye— well, what am i going to do my ahe— well, what am i going to do today? and you're not actually a eereegey— today? and you're not actually a eereegey hereon,— today? and you're not actually a scroogey person, a— today? and you're not actually a scroogey person, a scrooge ehereeter— scroogey person, a scrooge character compared to some heehte— character compared to some heepre er— character compared to some heepre er eh— character compared to some people at gb news. ow; people at gb news. one of my colleagues, in fact, someone senior wrote a piece for gb news website. mick booker , he wrote website. mick booker, he wrote that the king was wrong to make this a bank holiday in a start to a new reign. would be a fantastic way. get everyone back to the grind. well, i applaud mr booker for discover king and revealing to us that the person who invented bank holidays, sir john lubbock in 1871, a philanthropist and banker , he philanthropist and banker, he invented bank holidays and he had a pet wasp. now, i don't know— had a pet wasp. now, i don't know whether— had a pet wasp. now, i don't know whether wasps- “eh: now, i don't know whether wasps need “5h: now, i don't know whether wasps need a “ett: now, i don't know whether wasps need a lot “etr: now, i don't know whether wasps need a lot of wethhe— know whether wasps need a lot of walkingr rhe— know whether wasps need a lot of werhhg, and he— know whether wasps need a lot of walking, and he needed a bank heheey— walking, and he needed a bank heheey te— walking, and he needed a bank heheey te ee— walking, and he needed a bank

holiday to do that. i think the rrehterh — holiday to do that. i think the rrehterh te— holiday to do that. i think the problem is we've— holiday to do that. i think the problem is we've had so many huhehee— problem is we've had so many bunched together.— problem is we've had so many bunched together. had two bunched together. we had two exha— bunched together. we had two etre-— bunched together. we had two extra-.-because| extra last year. yes. because of the— extra last year. yes. because of the eueerte— extra last year. yes. because of the queen's funeral and the htetthurt — the queen's funeral and the platinum jubilee and we've had teeter— platinum jubilee and we've had easter followed— platinum jubilee and we've had easter followed by three in may. by easter followed by three in may. hy the— easter followed by three in may. hy the the— easter followed by three in may. hy the he he— easter followed by three in may. by the time we get to the end of the by the time we get to the end of the rhehth— by the time we get to the end of the month, then— by the time we get to the end of the month, then we— by the time we get to the end of the month, then we won't get one ehyththe— the month, then we won't get one ehyththe-the— the month, then we won't get one ehyththe-the ene— the month, then we won't get one anything-the end of- anything until the end of there. — anything until the end of august. there's anything until the end of- august. -there's nothing anything until the end of augchristmas there's nothing anything until the end of augchristmas . there's nothing anything until the end of augchristmas . sothere's nothing anything until the end of augchristmas . so as re's nothing anything until the end of augchristmas . so as you nothing till christmas. so as you rtghtty— till christmas. so as you rightly sax— till christmas. so as you rightly say, emily, we're quite terr— rightly say, emily, we're quite terr town— rightly say, emily, we're quite low down the— rightly say, emily, we're quite low down the ratings in terms of gehereehy— low down the ratings in terms of gehereehy wtth— low down the ratings in terms of generosity with but they're all eeehhet— generosity with but they're all socialist nations,— generosity with but they're all socialist nations, all the throne— socialist nations, all the hetteheyeu— socialist nations, all the nations you quoted are socialist throne.— nations you quoted are socialist nations. scotland,— nations you quoted are socialist nations. scotland, of course, hee— nations. scotland, of course, has h— nations. scotland, of course, has tt rhe— nations. scotland, of course, has 11 and well,— nations. scotland, of course, has 11 and well, there you go . has 11 and well, there you go. yeah— has 11 and well, there you go. yeah. yeah— has 11 and well, there you go. yeah, yeah, yeah— has 11 and well, there you go. yeah, yeah, yeah . i- has 11 and well, there you go. / i think yeah, yeah, yeah. i think they've yeah, yeah, yeah. i think they-ye hee— yeah, yeah, yeah. i think they've had it— / ithink they've had it under different geyeerhrheht— they've had it under different governments as— they've had it under different governments as well. 4:3. “r: governments as well. you sound like governments as well. you sound ttte the.— governments as well. you sound like the, the tuc maybe because last year they said they looked at european countries and they said we're not doing too well, we're too far down. the ratings when it comes to bank holidays. we should i think they we should have i think they asked let me see. they asked for. let me see. they asked for. let me see. they asked for. let me see. they asked for four new bank holidays on of the eight we already on top of the eight we already have standard, that's to have as standard, and that's to augn have as standard, and that's to align european countries align us with european countries . it they're also . but ben, is it they're also the that may have the case that they may have a fewer days when it comes to

statutory leave. they may they may— statutory leave. they may they may-i— statutory leave. they may they they-t haven-t— statutory leave. they may they may-i haven't looked- ”g they may they may i haven't looked at what may do i haven't looked at what the may do i haven't looked at what the etetutery— may do i haven't looked at what the statutory leave— may do i haven't looked at what the statutory leave scenario is in the statutory leave scenario is the-r— the statutory leave scenario is he. whet— the statutory leave scenario is in-or what the- the statutory leave scenario is in or what the sort of in europe or what the sort of herrht— in europe or what the sort of normal contractual provisions ere-there— normal contractual provisions erelthere te— normal contractual provisions ere-there te e— normal contractual provisions are. there is a history to are. but there is a history to hehh— are. but there is a history to bank holidays,— are. but there is a history to bank holidays, which goes before tett. — bank holidays, which goes before tett. t— bank holidays, which goes before tett. tththh— bank holidays, which goes before 1871. i think before— bank holidays, which goes before 1871. i think before 1830, there eert— 1871. i think before 1830, there eert et— 1871. i think before 1830, there were sort of 40— 1871. i think before 1830, there were sort of 40 national hettteye— were sort of 40 national holidays every- were sort of 40 national holidays every year. and then in resh— holidays every year. and then in teeh eerheehe— holidays every year. and then in 1834, someone cut— holidays every year. and then in 1834, someone cut that right beeh— 1834, someone cut that right heeh te— 1834, someone cut that right heeh te eteht— 1834, someone cut that right back to eight. can you imagine trem— back to eight. can you imagine trerh trerh — back to eight. can you imagine from from from _ back to eight. can you imagine from from from 40 to 8. and that et— from from from 40 to 8. and that was of course, before we had preher— was of course, before we had proper employment law and so on, ereteetthe— proper employment law and so on, ereteetthg eeeete-e— proper employment law and so on, protecting people's interests the— protecting people's interests the rtghte— protecting people's interests and rights. and— protecting people's interests and rights. and nowadays we all have— and rights. and nowadays we all have contractual— and rights. and nowadays we all have contractual entitlement to hetteeye. — have contractual entitlement to hetteeye. zo— have contractual entitlement to holidays. 20 days— have contractual entitlement to holidays. 20 days is perfectly herrht— holidays. 20 days is perfectly herrht ,— holidays. 20 days is perfectly normal , while— holidays. 20 days is perfectly normal, while some have 25, some heve eo— normal, while some have 25, some even have 30 days— normal, while some have 25, some even have 30 days working days, hettteye— even have 30 days working days, hettteye e— even have 30 days working days, hettteye e ye..— even have 30 days working days, holidays a year, working day hetteeye— holidays a year, working day hettteye e— holidays a year, working day holidays a year. _ holidays a year, working day holidays a year. and so the need for holidays a year. and so the need ter hehh— holidays a year. and so the need for bank holidays— holidays a year. and so the need for bank holidays is somewhat ttrhthtehee— for bank holidays is somewhat diminished as— for bank holidays is somewhat diminished as a— for bank holidays is somewhat diminished as a result because we ett— diminished as a result because we ett ee— diminished as a result because we all do have— diminished as a result because we all do have our entitle rherheht— we all do have our entitle moment and— we all do have our entitle moment and there is a cost to hehh— moment and there is a cost to bank hetteeye— moment and there is a cost to bank holidays .— moment and there is a cost to bank holidays . the hospitality bank holidays. the hospitality eeeetr— bank holidays. the hospitality eeeetr ee yew— bank holidays. the hospitality sector, as you and i were theeweehe— sector, as you and i were discussing earlier, joe, do hehettt— discussing earlier, joe, do hehettt te — discussing earlier, joe, do benefit to some extent from these— benefit to some extent from these days— benefit to some extent from these days off.— benefit to some extent from these days off. but the estimate

eettrhetee— these days off. but the estimate estimated cost— these days off. but the estimate estimated cost of— these days off. but the estimate estimated cost of a bank holiday somewhere between 1 billion and £2 somewhere between 1 billion and t2 three.— somewhere between 1 billion and £2 billion. now— somewhere between 1 billion and £2 billion. now at— somewhere between 1 billion and £2 billion. now at a time when eerhhe— £2 billion. now at a time when we're coming out— £2 billion. now at a time when we're coming out of covid teeheewte— we're coming out of covid lockdowns, the _ we're coming out of covid lockdowns, the economy is on its tech.— lockdowns, the economy is on its heeh tt-e— lockdowns, the economy is on its heeh he he— lockdowns, the economy is on its back. it's not helpful. it's not hetetwt. — back. it's not helpful. it's not helpful. well,— back. it's not helpful. it's not helpful. well, and- back. it's not helpful. it's not helpful. while et“t: back. it's not helpful. it's not helpful. et“t: helpful. well, and also, it's very weather dependent. now, yesterday absolutely yesterday was absolutely glorious live in glorious. and where i live in kent, everywhere was absolutely heaving erg, but today, not so nice . and i know there are other nice. and i know there are other parts of the country where it's been raining all day and i'm sure they haven't been. everyone's just at sure they haven't been. - everyone's just-at home everyone's just sitting at home on-or steaming- everyone's just sitting at home on or steaming cups of on the sofa or steaming cups of tea on the sofa or steaming cups of tee the,— on the sofa or steaming cups of tee ehe, yew— on the sofa or steaming cups of tea and, you know,— on the sofa or steaming cups of tea and, you know, steam or eteerhee— tea and, you know, steam or eteerhet wh— tea and, you know, steam or steamed up cafes- tea and, you know, steam or steamed up cafes and things. her— steamed up cafes and things. the t— steamed up cafes and things. but i-wondering- steamed up cafes and things. but i-wondering what- steamed up cafes and things. i but i-wondering what you're but i was wondering what you're going there, joe, a going to say there, joe, for a second. early. early. yes. second. it's early. early. yes. hteeee— second. it's early. early. yes. hteeee te. — second. it's early. early. yes. please do. tell— second. it's early. early. yes. please do. tell us— f: e celt early. yes. please do. tell us what you're up te— please do. tell us what you're up te thre— please do. tell us what you're up to this bank— please do. tell us what you're up to this bank holiday. r:rer up to this bank holiday. i do thhh— up to this bank holiday. i do thttt there— up to this bank holiday. i do think there is— up to this bank holiday. i do think there is there- up to this bank holiday. i do think there is there is a point that ben makes that, you know, working practises have changed that ben makes that, you know, wowell. practises have changed that ben makes that, you know, wowell. iractises have changed that ben makes that, you know, wowell. i mean,; have changed that ben makes that, you know, wowell. i mean, whitsun,inged that ben makes that, you know, wowell. i mean, whitsun, which as well. i mean, whitsun, which is may, the bank is the end of may, the bank holiday, you know, in olden times, but not that long ago, factories always used to close for two weeks and everybody had to take their holidays. then

because it was obviously bonkers to have people staggered. if you were going to have to close down a whole factory. so i think, you know, if you're going to have bank holidays, maybe should bank holidays, maybe they should be spread out a bit more be either spread out a bit more or for something really worthwhile. i'm not sure that we needed one for today. i have to say. well, i agree. actually, you— say. well, i agree. actually, yew thew— say. well, i agree. actually, yew knew we— say. well, i agree. actually, you know, we had- well, i agree. actually, you know, we had a tremendous eey. — you know, we had a tremendous eey. reepte— you know, we had a tremendous eey. reepte et— you know, we had a tremendous day. people at home- you know, we had a tremendous day. “r; day. people at home are thinking what a miserable lot we're all working bank holiday. well, i love we are working and a lot of people are it's worth remembering that and that that a lot of not most but a lot of people are still working as normal today and someone has just messaged saying , normal today and someone has just messaged saying, oh more bank holidays means even more lost school time for children not good. won't someone think of the children? ben true. well, there the children? ben true. well, there yew— the children? ben true. well, there yew ge. — the children? ben true. well, there you go. it's— the children? ben true. well, there you go. it's a- the children? ben true. well, there you go. it's a loss- rt“ r: ”te“7 te“ true. well, there you go. it's a loss of eretwettwty. — there you go. it's a loss of productivity. it— there you go. it's a loss of productivity. it all ends of the age — productivity. it all ends of the age eeeerrwrh— productivity. it all ends of the age spectrum, isn't it? “ age spectrum, isn't it? i mean, there— age spectrum, isn't it? i mean, there he— age spectrum, isn't it? i mean, there he e— age spectrum, isn't it? i mean, there is a there's a serious point to that, which is if you're paying for extortionate childcare costs and you suddenly have a bank holiday, you have to

pay- have a bank holiday, you have to pay. in have a bank holiday, you have to pay in any have a bank holiday, you have to pay. in any event, in any event. so, you know, for somebody who maybe working, perhaps, you maybe is working, perhaps, you know the health know, somebody in the health service, instance, got service, for instance, has got to but the nursery to work today. but the nursery is closed. they've still got to pay is closed. they've still got to pay for it. so i mean, it's an inconvenience, acas. but, you know, it's an inconvenience. but i'm going to pick you but i'm going torpick you up but i'm going to pick you up on thet— but i'm going to pick you up on that economic— but i'm going to pick you up on that economic point. yeah. heeewee— that economic point. yeah. because-check. that economic point. yeah. because check me that economic point. yeah. - because-check me while because you fact check me while i because you fact check me while t we— because you fact check me while rwe eeeehhe— because you fact check me while rwee eeeehhe .— because you fact check me while i was speaking . now we can i was speaking. now we can ewthhte— i was speaking. now we can quibble about— i was speaking. now we can quibble about the cost, but eeeerehtty— quibble about the cost, but eeeerehtty the— quibble about the cost, but apparently the jubilee weekend hehh— apparently the jubilee weekend hehh hetteey— apparently the jubilee weekend hehh hetteey ,— apparently the jubilee weekend bank holiday , the department for bank holiday, the department for where— bank holiday, the department for there ene— bank holiday, the department for culture and media, sport said it wewte— culture and media, sport said it we eeet— culture and media, sport said it would cost the— culture and media, sport said it would cost the economy around hee— would cost the economy around me when.— would cost the economy around 2.39 billion. however after the eey— 2.39 billion. however after the economy was estimated to have hee— economy was estimated to have her e— economy was estimated to have her e eet— economy was estimated to have had a 6.37 billion— economy was estimated to have had a 6.37 billion boost from jubilee— had a 6.37 billion boost from jubilee spending and tourism. so you jubilee spending and tourism. so yew teee— jubilee spending and tourism. so yew teee ee— jubilee spending and tourism. so you lose some in— jubilee spending and tourism. so you lose some in one area, make it you lose some in one area, make tt we— you lose some in one area, make tt we eteewhere. — you lose some in one area, make it up elsewhere. so— you lose some in one area, make it up elsewhere. so that i think that weekend is particularly interesting because it was a celebration that went through the weekend. you know , the the weekend. you know, the coronation was a celebration on saturday. and i imagine tourists , you know, receipts from tourism went up as a result of

the saturday. but today there wasn't really that much going on. i think today was a day of volunteering. your help, which probably doesn't add a lot to the economic national well being. 6 million people in this eethry— being. 6 million people in this eewhrry hewe— being. 6 million people in this country have been— “g 6 million people in this country have been out volunteering- country have been out volunteering in one way or ehether. — volunteering in one way or ehether. hew— volunteering in one way or another. how brilliant is that? veeh— another. how brilliant is that? teeh tt-e— another. how brilliant is that? yeah, it's brilliant. people wettheer— yeah, it's brilliant. people volunteer all— yeah, it's brilliant. people volunteer all the time. that's tree. — volunteer all the time. that's tree. vee- — volunteer all the time. that's true. yes. and,— volunteer all the time. that's true. yes. and, you know, we've had all of this, you know, time and time again after the olympics, we were all going to be and kind and do be lovely and kind and do amazing volunteer. amazing things and volunteer. you know, came together you know, we all came together dunng you know, we all came together during looked after during covid and looked after our much our neighbours. i don't see much evidence of anymore , i'm evidence of that anymore, i'm afraid. and this afraid. subsisting. and this voluntary stuff, it's fine, but you can do it all the year round. you should do it. you ehewte— round. you should do it. you ehewtt te— round. you should do it. you should do it— round. you should do it. you should do it all— “r: you should do it. you should do it all year round. wett— should do it all year round. wett, t — should do it all year round. wett, t t— should do it all year round. well, i. i saw— should do it all year round. well, i. i saw a- should do it all year round. well, i. t well, i. i saw a particularly miserable journalist tweet earlier this morning that it was outraged ice for the king to ask people to volunteer here because he's had us spend so much money on his coronation. i think kevin on his coronation. i think kevin on everything that goes with it.

so therefore, he has no opinions. no. right. you saw who it was ? yes, it was kevin it was? yes, it was kevin maguire. i will. i will say who it was. but yes, i think that's a bit i'm not sure if that argument really stands, but hey, it all sounds a bit desperate today. this idea that , you know, today. this idea that, you know, ett— today. this idea that, you know, ett eeeete— today. this idea that, you know, we're all people are— : this idea that, you know, we're all people are supposed to be we're all people are supposed to he hewhe— we're all people are supposed to he hewhe tee— we're all people are supposed to be having tea parties and volunteering— be having tea parties and volunteering coronation was volunteering the coronation was setwreey. — volunteering the coronation was saturday. -that's - volunteering the coronation was saturday. that's all saturday. that's it. that's all thet— saturday. that's it. that's all he eeee — saturday. that's it. that's all that needs. today- saturday. that's it. that's all that needs. : that needs. today is an anti—climax. all most and it all sounds it all feels a little bit desperate, a bit pathetic trying to drag it out a little bit like the concert at windsor, i have to say, which was b—list, gone mad. well, i got told off eertter— mad. well, i got told off earlier for— mad. well, i got told off earlier for being- e“etr: well, i got told off earlier for being a e“rer: well, i got told off earlier for being a little bit teee— earlier for being a little bit teee theh— earlier for being a little bit less than 100%_ earlier for being a little bit less than 100% enthusiastic ehewt— less than 100% enthusiastic ehewt the— less than 100% enthusiastic about the about— less than 100% enthusiastic about the about the concert. did you about the about the concert. did yew weteh— about the about the concert. did yew weteh ttt — about the about the concert. did yew weteh ttt t— about the about the concert. did you watch it? r: r: e“ e t e you watch it? i didn't watch it. so that's how enthusiastic i was. well, that doesn't necessarily surprise me. i caught a little bit of i caught a little bit of it and thought— caught a little bit of it and thought, really,— caught a little bit of it and thought, really, this is just, you— thought, really, this is just, yew thew— thought, really, this is just, you know, but— thought, really, this is just, you know, but lots of people the— you know, but lots of people the t.— you know, but lots of people the t. t— you know, but lots of people like it. i mean,— you know, but lots of people like it. i mean, there's a point where— like it. i mean, there's a point where eeeete— like it. i mean, there's a point where people can— like it. i mean, there's a point where people can do their own thhe. — where people can do their own thhe. -thhh- where people can do their own thing. think today's thing. but i do think today's hehh— thing. but i do think today's bank holiday— thing. but i do think today's bank holiday was well, they very much—

bank holiday was well, they very much wttt. — bank holiday was well, they very much wttt. .hy— bank holiday was well, they very much will. .by the- bank holiday was well, they very much will. and by the way, matthew has got in touch. he's delighted to see you both back. he are back. he says the power pair are back. that's to love these two that's you to love these two panellists. where's panellists. where's where's bingo brenda bingo? brenda bingo. brenda i don't know. you're not meant . don't know. you're not meant. meaning that you wait. i will. i will. regular meaning that you wait. iwill. i will. regular viewers- meaning that you wait. iwill. i will. regular viewers will- .t�*tteete“ “g e iwill. i will. regular viewers will know thet— will. regular viewers will know her he — will. regular viewers will know that joe phillips— will. regular viewers will know that joe phillips has a rather hee— that joe phillips has a rather hee e— that joe phillips has a rather hee e htt— that joe phillips has a rather hee e htt et— that joe phillips has a rather has a bit of an— that joe phillips has a rather has a bit of an obsession. i wewtt— has a bit of an obsession. i wewtt eey— has a bit of an obsession. i wewtt eey eh— has a bit of an obsession. i would say an unhealthy obsession with a former prime minister who has lots of scruffy blonde hair, apparently not as much as nigel farage because didn't somebody say not as much as nigel farage with about about donald trump? well there you go. we all have our vices. a we all have our obsessions. let me just read out a couple of points before we move on. richard says ban all bank holidays. there you go. ben. bank holidays. ben. ban all bank holidays. a waste of time. very unproductive ben. ban all bank holidays. a vti've of time. very unproductive ben. ban all bank holidays. a vti've we time. very unproductive ben. ban all bank holidays. a vti've we had. very unproductive ben. ban all bank holidays. a vti've we had three unproductive ben. ban all bank holidays. a vti've we had three yearsfductive ben. ban all bank holidays. a vti've we had three years of ctive . i've we had three years of bank dunng . i've we had three years of bank during covid. well bank holidays during covid. well good well and jim good point. well made and jim says there are too many all says there are too many that all occur closely of occur too closely instead of this day we should get this early may day we should get saint george's day around april the well, then we'd be the 23rd. well, then we'd be even clogged up. would

even more clogged up. we would still be clogged up, but in the other direction. and matthew says michelle seems to be loving the holidays well, the bank. holidays well, there is that yes, it's true. i is that point. yes, it's true. i am always in this seat when there a bank holiday, but there is a bank holiday, but fair she's worked fair play to her. she's worked hard, we don't mind it hard, but we don't mind as it means emily is on our means emily carver is on our screens. that's rather screens. well that's rather nice. is lovely. that is nice. that is lovely. that is rather lovely. you win some, you teee,— rather lovely. you win some, you teee, yew — rather lovely. you win some, you teee, yew wh— rather lovely. you win some, you lose, you win some,— rather lovely. you win some, you lose, you win some, you- you win some, you lose, you win some, you lose heeettettty. — lose, you win some, you lose hospitality. emily— lose, you win some, you lose hospitality. emily carver. wen.— hospitality. emily carver. wett.-wp.- hospitality. emily carver. well, - up, we're i hospitality. emily carver. i well,-up, we're going hospitality. emily carver. - well,-up, we're going to well, coming up, we're going to be about particular be talking about a particular area work. zero hour area of work. zero hour contracts. they contracts. are they discriminative or are they outdated? do they belong in the past? we've had this kind of flexible work . well, for as long flexible work. well, for as long as works really exist . but do as works really exist. but do you think with companies like deliveroo, uber , just eat all of deliveroo, uber, just eat all of these sort of fast , quick paced these sort of fast, quick paced delivery services? do you think they're taking advantage of their employees, their planning to put couriers back on this call work system? is that fair

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reete .— listening. gb views radios, reete . — listening. gb views radios, radio . welcome- listening. gb views radios, radio. t t listening. gb views radios, radio . t t listening. gb views radios,- radio . welcome back to dewbs& c0 radio. welcome back to dewbs& co with me, emily carver, keeping me company until seven is joe phillips, political commentator and ben habib, ceo of the first property group and a member of the reform party . now rapid the reform party. now rapid grocery delivery firms are preparing to move hundreds of couriers paid by the hour onto zero hour contracts. they are quite often referred to as on call . work as an employer is not call. work as an employer is not obuged call. work as an employer is not obliged to provide any minimum number of working hours to the employee. when it comes to these zero hour contracts, the government is planning to change this practise or they've said they're planning to change this practise with its new employment bill, the tuc, the trade union, congress wants zero hour contracts to be banned altogether , but the cbi says altogether, but the cbi says they play a vital role in employment levels. joe, what is your view on this? we see this a lot with low paid jobs as people on motorbikes , bikes and on motorbikes, bikes and bicycles carrying us our groceries last minute or

delivering our hot food . what do delivering our hot food. what do you think? i think there they're pretty grim jobs and they're pretty grim jobs and they're pretty ghastly conditions. i mean, riding around on a bike pretty ghastly conditions. i- mean, riding around on a bike or a mean, riding around on a bike or e rhehee— mean, riding around on a bike or e rhehee er— mean, riding around on a bike or e rhehee er e— mean, riding around on a bike or a moped or a motorbike in the eewrhe— a moped or a motorbike in the pouring reh— a moped or a motorbike in the pouring te— a moped or a motorbike in the pouring rain to deliver an eweeeee— pouring rain to deliver an eweeeee ene— pouring rain to deliver an avocado and a- pouring rain to deliver an avocado and a packet of rolos to avocado and a packet of rolos to e etweeht— avocado and a packet of rolos to e etweeht et— avocado and a packet of rolos to a student at 3:00— avocado and a packet of rolos to a student at 3:00 in— avocado and a packet of rolos to a student at 3:00 in the morning heeewee— a student at 3:00 in the morning because they've— a student at 3:00 in the morning because they've got the munchies . i because they've got the munchies . t we— because they've got the munchies . t tettthe— because they've got the munchies . i was telling them— because they've got the munchies . i was telling them , you see, . i was telling them, you see, when— . i was telling them, you see, when yew— . i was telling them, you see, when yew eee— . i was telling them, you see, when you see an— . i was telling them, you see, when you see an idea , i feel when you see an idea, i feel the— when you see an idea, i feel the th— when you see an idea, i feel like i'm packing— when you see an idea, i feel like i'm packing a rolex . like i'm packing a rolex. i ten-t— like i'm packing a rolex. i ten-t thhh— like i'm packing a rolex. i don't think they- like i'm packing a rolex. i don't think they make rolex anymore. do they? but i bet you ten-t— anymore. do they? but i bet you teh-t thew— anymore. do they? but i bet you teh-t thew .— anymore. do they? but i bet you don't know . well,— anymore. do they? but i bet you don't know . well, there- ete) ”re“ter:e tter ce“teht7’ but i bet you don't know . well, there you go. ete) ”re“ere; trer ce“re;«r7’ but i bet you don't know . well, there you go. don't know. well, there you go. her— don't know. well, there you go. the t— don't know. well, there you go. the t thhh— don't know. well, there you go. but i think, you— don't know. well, there you go. but i think, you know,- don't know. well, there you go. but i think, you know, what- don't know. well, there you go. but i think, you know, what is this rapid grocery delivery. i know. it's a funny term. you knew— know. it's a funny term. you knew thre— know. it's a funny term. you know, this is— know. it's a funny term. you know, this is not— know. it's a funny term. you know, this is not ordering your week— know, this is not ordering your week eheeeho. — know, this is not ordering your week shopping. t/rer. week shopping. you know, that's delivered by ocado or tesco's or any of the other or this is whimsy . and i hate to say this whimsy. and i hate to say this because it's going to make me sound like a stuffy old prude, but a lot of the people who are using using these companies would be the first to say it's outrageous , it's disgusting.

outrageous, it's disgusting. i true . i overheard two young true. i overheard two young women on when i was getting the train this afternoon talking about did you know you can get a vape delivered? i got one the other day. a disposable one for £10. and you sort of think, okay, so you know what sort of a person are you and the carbon emissions associated with someone getting on a motorbike and getting out there. but you know, there's a there is a much bigger issue here. and the tuc is quite right to point out that the government has promised 20 times. it lists a 20 times where it was going to do something. the government said it was going to have an employment bill after the mass sacking of 800 people by those ferries are still by p&o. those ferries are still sailing. joe, sailing. nothing happened. joe, hang on, because i want to look at this in the round because i think you're right. you're saying that these- ”3“ you're saying that these jobs ”3“. you're saying that these jobs are low here.— saying that these jobs are low here. they-re— saying that these jobs are low paid. they're not— saying that these jobs are low paid. they're not great working eerttttene— paid. they're not great working conditions. but— paid. they're not great working conditions. but actually albie theee— conditions. but actually albie theee rehe— conditions. but actually albie these jobs are— conditions. but actually albie these jobs are quite useful to eeeete— these jobs are quite useful to eeeete. ahe— these jobs are quite useful to people- and veer— these jobs are quite useful to people. and yes, students might use people. and yes, students might thre— people. and yes, students might the the— people. and yes, students might use this kind of— people. and yes, students might use this kind of service at 3 hw— use this kind of service at 3 th they— use this kind of service at 3 am, but they also do these kind

of a.m, but they also do these kind et rehe— a.m, but they also do these kind et tehe .— a.m, but they also do these kind et tehe . they— am, but they also do these kind et tehe . they ttt— am, but they also do these kind of jobs . they fit around their of jobs. they fit around their etweeht— of jobs. they fit around their student life— of jobs. they fit around their student life .— of jobs. they fit around their student life . they can make a student life. they can make a ttttte— student life. they can make a ttttte htt— student life. they can make a ttttte htt et— student life. they can make a little bit of cash. _ student life. they can make a little bit of cash. they don't weht— little bit of cash. they don't weht te— little bit of cash. they don't weht te he— little bit of cash. they don't want to be necessarily bogged tewh— want to be necessarily bogged eewh wtth— want to be necessarily bogged eewh wtth e— want to be necessarily bogged down with a contract. they won't be down with a contract. they won't he-eerhhehy— down with a contract. they won't he-eerhhehy hee- down with a contract. they won't be-company has to - down with a contract. they won't be company has to put be hired if a company has to put them — be hired if a company has to put them eh— be hired if a company has to put them ethwtt— be hired if a company has to put them on lfull on _ be hired if a company has to put them on full on contract and them on a full on contract and he— them on a full on contract and he he— them on a full on contract and it's not beneficial— them on a full on contract and it's not beneficial necessarily for it's not beneficial necessarily ter etther— it's not beneficial necessarily for either party. _ it's not beneficial necessarily for either party. e“ for either party. so, i mean, twe— for either party. so, i mean, i've got a i think i've come to the same conclusion as you, joe, but i have a very different take on contracts and the on zero hour contracts and the reason i think that was bank houday reason i think that was bank holiday sorry , the reason in my holiday sorry, the reason in my view , the unequivocal view, the unequivocal explanation for their unarguable explanation for their unarguable explanation for their existence is that employment law itself has become too restrictive. when you take an employee on now, there are many on costs, if you like, just be on the salary that you have to bear and there are many regulations to which an employer becomes bound and employers have reacted the employers have reacted to the ever increasing burden of formal employment contracts to specific. okay, so national insurance. and _ t �*" t. okay, so national insurance. and then in terms of reewtetteh— insurance. and then in terms of reewtetteh .— insurance. and then in terms of regulation , things— insurance. and then in terms of regulation , things like regulation, things like

metermty— regulation, things like maternity leave, maternity tee— maternity leave, maternity tee eteh— maternity leave, maternity leave, sick pay,— maternity leave, maternity leave, sick pay, pension contributions,- leave, sick pay, pension contributions, all these things ene— contributions, all these things emt heme— contributions, all these things and notice periods and the thehtttty— and notice periods and the memo te— and notice periods and the inability to part if you, you mew.— inability to part if you, you know, change— inability to part if you, you know, change direction as a eemeehy— know, change direction as a eemeehy ene— know, change direction as a eemeehy me he— know, change direction as a company and no fault two parts. i company and no fault two parts. t thmh— company and no fault two parts. t thmh thet— company and no fault two parts. i think that was— company and no fault two parts. i think that was tenancies- company and no fault two parts. i think that was tenancies but it all you know it's all the same kind of thing and as you paradoxically as you increase the protections through employment law , what you do is employment law, what you do is give businesses incentives such as these ones that rely particularly on unskilled workers , to find ways around workers, to find ways around that. workers, to find ways around that . and the zero hour that. and the zero hour contract, i think doesn't need more regulation to protect those who earn zero hour contracts. what we need is less regulation of the employment market itself so that it's much easier for employers to employ and then let go of employees. when you need to let them go. who wants to be employed? — to let them go. who wants to be employed? because— to let them go. who wants to be employed? because no- to let them go. who wants to be employed? because no officially because i think zero hour contracts are going to be very controversial. but i think they can be a very, very good thing. well, i can give you a source of income . you know

income. yes. you don't know exactly how hours you're exactly how many hours you're going have, but it's good for going to have, but it's good for the particularly in the employer, particularly in areas hospitality they the employer, particularly in areas control spitality they the employer, particularly in areas control demand they the employer, particularly in areas control demand for they the employer, particularly in areas control demand for theirey can't control demand for their services, they're are older people who benefit from zero hour contracts. there are younger people who benefit from zero hour contracts. i think a ban on them altogether is just unrealistic . and we're actually unrealistic. and we're actually well, i'm not i'm not suggesting a ban. what i'm suggesting is thet— a ban. what i'm suggesting is me tt— a ban. what i'm suggesting is me tt yew— what i'm suggesting is that if you deregulate employment itself, the need for zero -contracts_ employment itself, the need for zero contracts evaporates. zero hour contracts evaporates. we-we— zero hour contracts evaporates. we-we-hee — zero hour contracts evaporates. we've had flexible we've always had flexible work, ttexthte— we've always had flexible work, flexible work— we've always had flexible work, flexible work is— we've always had flexible work, flexible work is never not been a flexible work is never not been e three— flexible work is never not been e thhe . — flexible work is never not been ethmo . se— flexible work is never not been ethmo. se yew— flexible work is never not been a thing . r:rere“ . a thing. so you don't want to ban self employment. and i think that, ban self employment. and i think thet-hhew— ban self employment. and i think thet-hhew .— ban self employment. and i think thet-hhew . yew— e“ re; and i think that, know , you mentioned that, you know, you mentioned eeterme— that, you know, you mentioned catering hospitality arnie catering and hospitality arnie you catering and hospitality arnie yew mew.— catering and hospitality arnie you know, there— catering and hospitality arnie you know, there are many, many eeehte—thetl people who've worked in that eert— people who've worked in that eert et— people who've worked in that sort of sphere,— people who've worked in that sort of sphere, myself included, where— sort of sphere, myself included, where yew-t— sort of sphere, myself included, where yew-t oet— sort of sphere, myself included, where you'd get a— sort of sphere, myself included, where you'd get a call saying, teh— where you'd get a call saying, ceh yew— where you'd get a call saying, ceh yew ceme— where you'd get a call saying, can you come in?— where you'd get a call saying, can you come in? we've got a meme— can you come in? we've got a heehhe et— can you come in? we've got a booking et. yew— can you come in? we've got a booking of, you know , extra booking of, you know, extra tehtee— booking of, you know, extra tables tonight— booking of, you know, extra tables tonight or we don't need you tables tonight or we don't need yew remem— tables tonight or we don't need yew temoht .— tables tonight or we don't need yew temoht . yew— tables tonight or we don't need you tonight , you know, lots of you tonight, you know, lots of thet— you tonight, you know, lots of me eert— you tonight, you know, lots of me eert et— you tonight, you know, lots of that sort of thing— you tonight, you know, lots of that sort of thing . you know, we that sort of thing. you know, we are freelancers— that sort of thing. you know, we are freelancers ,— that sort of thing. you know, we are freelancers , freelance are freelancers, freelance tewmettete— are freelancers, freelance journalists, freelance broadcasters. but i think, you mew.— broadcasters. but i think, you knew t— broadcasters. but i think, you knew t ten-t— broadcasters. but i think, you know, i don't agree with ben in in know, i don't agree with ben in

he ehwewety— know, i don't agree with ben in in obviously in— know, i don't agree with ben in in obviously in in— know, i don't agree with ben in in obviously in in abandoning or mehme— in obviously in in abandoning or mehme .— in obviously in in abandoning or mehme . t— in obviously in in abandoning or making . i didn't— in obviously in in abandoning or making. i didn't say in obviously in in abandoning or making . i didn't say abandoned. making. i didn't say abandoned. i making. i didn't say abandoned. t tere— making. i didn't say abandoned. t the redee— making. i didn't say abandoned. i said reduce the— making. i didn't say abandoned. i said reduce the regulation- i said reduce the regulation associated with employment, need protection , i'm afraid. but the protection, i'm afraid. but the government has— protection, i'm afraid. but the government has failed- t e“ r: but the government has failed miserably. it government has failed miserably. tt hremteee— government has failed miserably. it promised promised and has tettert— it promised promised and has tettee. tore— it promised promised and has failed. 2019 it— it promised promised and has failed. 2019 it promised to who— failed. 2019 it promised to thee th— failed. 2019 it promised to bring th te— failed. 2019 it promised to bring in its employment bill. it's bring in its employment bill. tt-e tere— bring in its employment bill. it's done nothing, so i'd erehehty— it's done nothing, so i'd probably scrap my rights in ter— probably scrap my rights in ter et— probably scrap my rights in favour of more— probably scrap my rights in favour of more money if it was an favour of more money if it was en ehtteh. — favour of more money if it was an option. well,— favour of more money if it was an option. �*tettre;.. .re;.«r an option. well, absolutely. and an option. well, absolutely. the thet-e— an option. well, absolutely. and that's what— an option. �*tettre;.. .re;.«r and that's what happens. i mean, it's and that's what happens. i mean, th e— and that's what happens. i mean, th e reetty— and that's what happens. i mean, it's a really powerful point. vee— it's a really powerful point. tee mehe— it's a really powerful point. you make, emily, it's a really powerful point. - you make, emily,-when it's a really powerful point. - you cut

reet— economy. paradoxically you've twet eet— economy. paradoxically you've twet oet te — economy. paradoxically you've twet oer te tehe— economy. paradoxically you've just got to take it— economy. paradoxically you've just got to take it as read. we teee— just got to take it as read. we need te— just got to take it as read. we need to deregulate employment tteett— need to deregulate employment tteett . — need to deregulate employment tteett . se— need to deregulate employment itself . so frustrating- need to deregulate employment itself . e“; itself. so frustrating the conversation around workers rights and regulation in the labour market because it's , you labour market because it's, you know, left wing, say, regulation , good right wing say regulation bad and never the twain two shall meet. and so it's frustrating because i think there always has to be a balance . are pros and cons, . there are pros and cons, a couple of views before we move on. sorry we'll come back maybe. john and wrong. on. sorry we'll come back maybe. john boycott and wrong. on. sorry we'll come back maybe. john boycott the and wrong. on. sorry we'll come back maybe. john boycott the companiesrng. on. sorry we'll come back maybe. john boycott the companies that just boycott the companies that use these zero hour use them. these zero hour contracts, richard says nothing wrong zero hour contracts. wrong with zero hour contracts. they their place and they have their place and advantages. patrick says, advantages. and patrick says, didn't tony blair say in 1994 if he got elected, he would ban zero contracts, maybe . i zero hour contracts, maybe. i don't i'd have to fact don't know. i'd have to fact check that. but coming up, the government planning gp government is planning a gp reform time on 8 am. reform to call time on 8 am. rush on the 8 am. rush for appointments . would redirecting appointments. would redirecting patients to local pharmacies solve the problem of not being able to get a gp appointment? i'm not so sure

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channel. britain is watching. well, that conversation about zero hour contracts is definitely— zero hour contracts is definitely ,- zero hour contracts is definitely , definitely well definitely, definitely well eettt— definitely, definitely well eettt. reeete— definitely, definitely well split. people divided the hetteh— split. people divided the nation, divided our viewers ehywey. — nation, divided our viewers ehywey. tete— nation, divided our viewers anyway. lots of— nation, divided our viewers anyway. lots of people saying eheetwtety— anyway. lots of people saying absolutely they— anyway. lots of people saying absolutely they should be banned . ethere— absolutely they should be banned . ethere eeymo— absolutely they should be banned . others saying, actually they-re— . others saying, actually they-re good— . others saying, actually they're good for the economy and it's they're good for the economy and he the— they're good for the economy and it's the equivalent— they're good for the economy and it's the equivalent of being eett— it's the equivalent of being self employed.— it's the equivalent of being self employed. so there you go. we self employed. so there you go. we—heweh-t- self employed. so there you go. we_haven't solved. we haven't we haven't solved thet— we haven't we haven't solved thet-heweh-t- we haven't we haven't solved that haven't solved that that one. we haven't solved that ahywey.— that one. we haven't solved that one. anyway, dewbs & co one. anyway, this is dewbs& co wtth— one. anyway, this is dewbs& co wtth-tmtty— one. anyway, this is dewbs& co with-emily carver,- one. anyway, this is dewbs& co with emily carver, keeping with me, emily carver, keeping me—ree- me company is still joe hhttttee— me company is still joe phillips, political commentator and phillips, political commentator end—cro— phillips, political commentator eht—cro et- phillips, political commentator and—ceo of the- phillips, political commentator and ceo of the first and ben habib, ceo of the first hreeerty— and ben habib, ceo of the first meeerry groupe— and ben habib, ceo of the first property group, also property group, and also a memerh— property group, and also a member-the— property group, and also a member the reform party. so member of the reform party. so the government— member of the reform party. so the government has announced new meeewreelteehte— the government has announced new measures-tackle the— the government has announced new measures tackle the 8 am. measures to tackle the 8 am. eerethe— measures to tackle the 8 am. eerethe te— measures to tackle the 8 am. scramble to get— measures to tackle the 8 am. scramble to get gp's appointed the— scramble to get gp's appointed the ew— scramble to get gp's appointed once the new package includes teee— once the new package includes £240 million— once the new package includes £240 million of— once the new package includes £240 million of investment in ttettet— £240 million of investment in more ehehe— £240 million of investment in digital phone systems, meaning heheey— digital phone systems, meaning heheey ehewte— digital phone systems, meaning nobody should get the engaged tene— nobody should get the engaged tehe wheh— nobody should get the engaged tone when they— nobody should get the engaged tone when they call the surgery part— tone when they call the surgery hert et— tone when they call the surgery hert et the — tone when they call the surgery part of the plans.— tone when they call the surgery part of the plans. also involve trehme— part of the plans. also involve trehhe ter— part of the plans. also involve training for surgery staff to heeeme— training for surgery staff to become care— training for surgery staff to become care navigators, receptionists— become care navigators, receptionists to become care heweetere— receptionists to become care heweetere ee— receptionists to become care navigators so they can establish whether— navigators so they can establish whether patients— navigators so they can establish whether patients can be seen by a whether patients can be seen by e eh—

whether patients can be seen by e eh er— whether patients can be seen by e eh er tett— whether patients can be seen by a gp or told to— whether patients can be seen by a gp or told to go— whether patients can be seen by a gp or told to go to a pharmacist.- a gp or told to go to a pharmacist. so what do you make of pharmacist. so what do you make et thre— pharmacist. so what do you make et thte hem— pharmacist. so what do you make of this, ben? would— pharmacist. so what do you make of this, ben? would you like to teee— of this, ben? would you like to teee hee— of this, ben? would you like to tewx eee ew— of this, ben? would you like to tewx eee e— of this, ben? would you like to faux pas own a gp— of this, ben? would you like to faux pas own a gp expecting to be faux pas own a gp expecting to he eweh— faux pas own a gp expecting to he given eh— faux pas own a gp expecting to be given an appointment at some eteee— be given an appointment at some eteee ehty— be given an appointment at some eteee ehty te— be given an appointment at some eteee ehty he he— be given an appointment at some stage only to be told by a receptionist— stage only to be told by a receptionist who is now called a eee-thet— receptionist who is now called a eere-thet he- receptionist who is now called a care -that no, you - care navigator that no, you ten-t— care navigator that no, you teh-t teee— care navigator that no, you don't need to— care navigator that no, you don't need to see one. you can reet— don't need to see one. you can twet-the— don't need to see one. you can just the pharmacy. �*tettre;.. just go to the pharmacy. well, tm — just go to the pharmacy. well, tm ter— just go to the pharmacy. well, i'm not-what's— just go to the pharmacy. well, i'm not what's going on. i'm not sure what's going on. i talked daughter in law who talked to my daughter in law who is is qualifying as a doctor is who is qualifying as a doctor at the moment did thesis at the moment and did a thesis in very subject . oh, in this very subject. oh, really? including this. and i and whether i can be used to address minor ailments and therefore take a burden off the off the nhs and the conclusion that she reached in her thesis which made a lot of sense to me, was that on, on the minor issues when it's so self—evident that it's a minor complaint that the individual has fine, you can direct them straight off to a pharmacy and then on the major things like they've got severe chest pain, you obviously call them in, but there's a whole array of complains in the middle that a receptionist indeed that a receptionist or indeed i will not be qualified to answer . and it's that massive range in

the middle that prohibits this being used widely as a tool in a useful way that would reduce the burden on on surgeries . and so burden on on surgeries. and so i mean , of course, if someone's mean, of course, if someone's calling up with something that is self evidently minor, send them to a pharmacist . but you them to a pharmacist. but you know, then there's a whole array of other stuff. the issue of, well, the nhs is supposed to be a service that we've all at least in theory, paid into. and therefore if you want- least in theory, paid into. and therefore if you want to - therefore if you want to see a gp,— therefore if you want to see a eh tee— therefore if you want to see a gp, joe should— therefore if you want to see a gp, joe should you be allowed to see gp, joe should you be allowed to e ehe— gp, joe should you be allowed to see a gp? well,— gp, joe should you be allowed to see a gp? well, yeah. tr see a gp? well, yeah. the nhs is not see a gp? well, yeah. the nhs is her eh— see a gp? well, yeah. the nhs is not an uber service or a delivery of things that you forgot. they're not, certainly teh— forgot. they're not, certainly het. there— forgot. they're not, certainly not. there are— 3 they're not, certainly not. there are contracts. �*tettre;.. not. there are contracts. well, tm — not. there are contracts. well, tm eure— not. there are contracts. well, tm yew— not. there are contracts. well, i'm sure you would, but what. and so would lots of people. but you know, one of the things that i think we have to bear in mind is that because people are living and they are living longer and they are living longer and they are living complex living with more complex needs, so upon time, you know, so once upon a time, you know, you had cancer, you were dead. that now you recover . that was it. now you recover. but you might also have got high blood pressure. might have blood pressure. you might have

got sorts of other things got all sorts of other things going on. i think the problem with is a is absolutely with this is a it is absolutely stupid because it's not going to solve problem of the solve the problem of the shortage gp's and gp shortage of gp's and gp surgeries , digitising the phone surgeries, digitising the phone system will just tell you where you are in the queue. i know. i know. i know. i mean the idea that this is going to get you to anybody that the government should put that out there as a positive response to the inability to get an appointment. btec around edges. btec tinkering around the edges. now is very variable now i know it is very variable surgery, something been surgery, something they've been asking who what they'd asking for, joe, who what they'd rather sit in a queue than get an engaged maybe gp's have been asking for this, gp's already have it and you can make appointments online. of appointments online. lots of people don't access to people who don't have access to onune people who don't have access to online or who don't feel comfortable that's comfortable doing it, that's fine. other big problem with fine. the other big problem with this is that pharmacies are closing quite rapidly across the country. so supermarkets, lloyds pharmacy group, who operate within the bigger sainsbury's stores have closed all their pharmacies and other big

supermarkets like tesco's and asda . a lot of them have asda. a lot of them have withdrawn their pharmacy services and pharmacies are closing because of the overheads and pharmacists will tell you that they are more than willing to do more . that they are more than willing to do more. but that they are more than willing to do more . but what happens to do more. but what happens with something relatively minor that you don't need to see a doctor about ? and one of the doctor about? and one of the examples given by one of the pharmacists in the article i was reading was a fungal infection , reading was a fungal infection, you know, toenails or something like that . you can to the like that. you can go to the pharmacist , like that. you can go to the pharmacist, but the pharmacist can't give you the prescription. it needs a prescription and then you can get it if you're eligible for free. so there's got to be a little bit more sense. this isn't about triaging. we all know already know. we've got 1—1, one. we know. we've got 1—1, one. we know about pharmacies. we know that you can look up stuff and you can use your and there are apps now in which you can put your symptoms and it tells you, your symptoms and it tells you, you know, in all probability what you've got. the other thing is think sometimes people is that i think sometimes people will to the doctor and

will go to the doctor and ostensibly about pain in ostensibly about a pain in their, know, elbow. ostensibly about a pain in their,say, know, elbow. ostensibly about a pain in their,say, andznow, elbow. ostensibly about a pain in their,say, and doctorsbow. ostensibly about a pain in their,say, and doctors will tell let's say, and doctors will tell you and i'm sure your daughter in law will tell you it's on the way out. they go. just another thing to. and that's when you have the conversation that says, oh, right, it's really important . well, this is why i really ten-t— . well, this is why i really teh-t twe— . well, this is why i really don't like the— well, this is why i really don't like the idea of i'm just imagining— don't like the idea of i'm just tmeommo the— don't like the idea of i'm just imagining the circumstance where ehehee— imagining the circumstance where someone phones up a receptionist . the— someone phones up a receptionist . the receptionist— someone phones up a receptionist . the receptionist now called cere— . the receptionist now called care navigator,— . the receptionist now called care navigator, has this power to care navigator, has this power te decree— care navigator, has this power to decide whether you get to see a to decide whether you get to see e eh— to decide whether you get to see e eh er— to decide whether you get to see e eh er het. — to decide whether you get to see a gp or not. and— to decide whether you get to see a gp or not. and they always hewe. — a gp or not. and they always hewe. ahe— a gp or not. and they always have. and let's— a gp or not. and they always have. and let's say you've had a heeeeehe— have. and let's say you've had a heeeeehe ter— have. and let's say you've had a headache for the— have. and let's say you've had a headache for the last few memhe— headache for the last few months, persistent headache. and they— months, persistent headache. and they eey.— months, persistent headache. and they eey. eh— months, persistent headache. and they eey. ehlee— months, persistent headache. and they eey. ehlee te- months, persistent headache. and they say, oh, go to the they say, oh, just go to the ehermeetet— they say, oh, just go to the pharmacist and— they say, oh, just go to the pharmacist and get some, you mew.— pharmacist and get some, you know, nurofen_ pharmacist and get some, you know, nurofen or— pharmacist and get some, you know, nurofen or whatever. and then— know, nurofen or whatever. and then-em— know, nurofen or whatever. and theh-elehe- then it turns out to be eemeththe— then it turns out to be something-a- then it turns out to be something a brain then it turns out to be- something-a brain tumour. something like a brain tumour. veeh— something like a brain tumour. veeh-whet-e— something like a brain tumour. yeah,-what's really- something like a brain tumour. yeah,-what's really great- yeah, but what's really great from a government policy perspective that perspective about this is that it's got us debating it. it's all got us debating it. it's got us talking, it's got us off talking about 7.5 million people on the waiting list for the nhs, 3 million before lockdowns. it's got us off talking about the broken public

sector and the fundamental problem with the way the nhs works. we're focussed on works. and we're focussed on whether gps should have their receptionists, know , direct receptionists, you know, direct us pharmacists. it's very us to the pharmacists. it's very clever. does this clever. the government does this often with intractable problems. it chucks a bone out there, which we all end up debating for ages, isn't it? and this is a teee— ages, isn't it? and this is a deed eet— ages, isn't it? and this is a deed eet. tt— ages, isn't it? and this is a dead cat. it is— ages, isn't it? and this is a dead cat. it is not- ages, isn't it? and this is a dead cat. it is not a- g . .7’ and this is a dead cat. it is not a policy. we— dead cat. it is not a policy. he he— dead cat. it is not a policy. he he eh— dead cat. it is not a policy. it's not an idea.- dead cat. it is not a policy. it's not an idea. it's a recognition- it's not an idea. it's a recognition that it is utterly rtetewtewe— recognition that it is utterly rtttewtewe .— recognition that it is utterly ridiculous. it's— recognition that it is utterly ridiculous. it's probably easier to ridiculous. it's probably easier te eet— ridiculous. it's probably easier te oer ttehete— ridiculous. it's probably easier to get tickets for— ridiculous. it's probably easier to get tickets for glastonbury ther— to get tickets for glastonbury theh tt— to get tickets for glastonbury theh tt te— to get tickets for glastonbury theh tt te te— to get tickets for glastonbury than it is to get— to get tickets for glastonbury than it is to get a doctor's eeeethtmeht— than it is to get a doctor's appointment in- than it is to get a doctor's appointment in many, many theehteee— appointment in many, many theehteee .— appointment in many, many instances . probably easier to instances. probably easier to get— instances. probably easier to eetlttetet— instances. probably easier to getlticket.the - instances. probably easier to get ticket the windsor get a ticket for the windsor cerehetteh— get a ticket for the windsor coronation concert. �*tettre;.. coronation concert. well, the three— coronation concert. well, the thing is, it's got everyone talking and i think talking in my inbox, and i think you're absolutely right. mean, you're absolutely right. i mean, i i mean, i knew that having i was i mean, i knew that having this conversation, move on this conversation, we'd move on to nhs reform because that's the fundamental that's the fundamental, that's the elephant in the john said. if i'd in the room. john said. if i'd wanted from someone wanted an opinion from someone with experience, with zero medical experience, i'd with zero medical experience, pd chat with zero medical experience, i'd chat with my mates i'd have a chat with my mates down at the pub. not a good idea. it's like putting a chimp behind controls of a space behind the controls of a space shuttle. a bit rude but shuttle. a bit rude maybe, but i get point. that's really get your point. that's really

ettehewe— get your point. that's really offensive and— get your point. that's really offensive and i— get your point. that's really offensive and i think,- gre. that's really offensive and i think, you know, to offensive and i think, you know, te he— offensive and i think, you know, te he terr.— offensive and i think, you know, te he terr. t— offensive and i think, you know, to be fair, i think— to be fair, i think most receptionists- receptionists and people who werh—ehei work in medical centres and meeteet— work in medical centres and medical would— work in medical centres and medical would have. e“re;”re; medical would have. there's no way— medical would have. there's no wey tt— medical would have. there's no way i'd tell them about something a bit something that might be a bit embarrassing. might you embarrassing. you might not, you know, but so much know, something, but so much depends you live depends on where you live because know , i can make an because you know, i can make an appointment online and we've got digital phone system, it digital phone system, but it only you know, where only tells me, you know, where i am in the queue and you've got to listen to every option before you can then go through. do you know what i've learned- rtete“ e“ grer q do you know what i've learned from this eemereetehtt — know what i've learned from this conversation? just— know what i've learned from this conversation? ” conversation? just from your views that are coming in is that every seems to do things every gp seems to do things differently. some make you make an if it's an appointment online if it's not urgent. others seem not urgent urgent. others seem to have the 8 am. to still have the 8 am. scramble every single day. others do things in different ways. there no gp surgery . ways. there is no gp surgery. the same in this country right? coming up, labour is planning to clamp down on foreign buyers of uk properties. would this solve our housing crisis .

on dan wootton tonight former chancellor kwasi kwarteng is live in the studio for his exclusive reaction to the tories election wipe—out. plus, after prince election wipe—out. plus, after the merry-e— t e“ �*tett plus, after prince harry's humiliating eeeeerehee— prince harry's humiliating appearance at— prince harry's humiliating appearance at the coronation aehe— appearance at the coronation aehe te— appearance at the coronation aehe he the— appearance at the coronation gone is the troubled duke now reet— gone is the troubled duke now we e— gone is the troubled duke now we e eeere— gone is the troubled duke now r-wet e eeere eertt— gone is the troubled duke now just a spare part? join de—man wtaet— just a spare part? join de—man wtaet tereae— just a spare part? join de—man nigel farage and— just a spare part? join de—man nigel farage and angela levin for unmissable— nigel farage and angela levin for unmissable political and reyet— for unmissable political and royal analysis.— for unmissable political and royal analysis. 9— for unmissable political and royal analysis. 9 to 11 pm. on . eh— royal analysis. 9 to 11 pm. on . eh newe— . gb news. welcome back to dewbs& co with me, carver, keeping me, emily carver, keeping me company joe company this evening is joe phillips, commentator phillips, political commentator and habib, ceo of the first and ben habib, ceo of the first property group member of property group and a member of the reform party. so i just want to get some of your views on gp appointments, my inbox appointments, because my inbox has this one. a gp has blown up on this one. a gp receptionist has actually got in touch, she says. can i say as a gp receptionist, if someone

calls in with chest pain, you calls in with chest pain, you call them an ambulance, not bnng call them an ambulance, not bring them in. so i guess she's suggesting there that actually we do our job. good point. and we do ourjob. good point. and we do ourjob. good point. and we will get an ambulance in. however the problem ali however the problem is, ali says, knowing standard of a says, knowing the standard of a gp i would gp receptionist, i would not trust any of them as triage people. well perhaps there's needs some good pr needs to be some more good pr for gp receptionist. they put for a gp receptionist. they put up lot. yes, i imagine up with a lot. yes, i imagine they have to put up with. i think they put up with- think they put up with a lot of ehwee— think they put up with a lot of ehwee tee.— think they put up with a lot of abuse. yes. and— think they put up with a lot of abuse. yes. and people expecting to abuse. yes. and people expecting te he— abuse. yes. and people expecting te he eee— abuse. yes. and people expecting to be seen when— abuse. yes. and people expecting to be seen when they want when, you to be seen when they want when, yew mew. — to be seen when they want when, you know, immediately do ehythma— you know, immediately do anything-well,- you know, immediately do anything-well, if anything else. well, carol, if you're watching, us you're still watching, let us know you have to put up know if you do have to put up with with a lot of abuse. i can imagine you do people panicking, people been able to imagine you do people panicking, peo ae been able to imagine you do people panicking, peo a gp been able to imagine you do people panicking, peo a gp and been able to imagine you do people panicking, peo a gp and it's been able to imagine you do people panicking, peo a gp and it's noteen able to imagine you do people panicking, peo a gp and it's not yourible to see a gp and it's not your fault, is it ? see a gp and it's not your fault, is it? it's not your fault. so demand . fault. there's so much demand. and lastly, quickly , doug and just lastly, quickly, doug says, if you need the doctor urgently, my gp surgery always says none today. call it 8 am. tomorrow. booking tomorrow. the online booking system though. if system is excellent though. if your urgent. there your need isn't urgent. so there your need isn't urgent. so there you go. think online is best you go. i think online is best for most people. actually moving on. labour has come up with a

radical plan apparently to sort out the uk housing crisis if they the next general they win the next general election, they say they would increase the stamp duty paid by foreign buyers of uk property while also restricting the sale of new build properties to overseas investors . now this is overseas investors. now this is still in the planning stage . still in the planning stage. they're thinking about proposals for their manifesto ahead of the next general election. but joe, do you like this or do you like what you're hearing here? well, foreign investors already- e“; 7 well, foreign investors already pay ter— foreign investors already pay more for than— foreign investors already pay more for than uk buyers in stamp twy— more for than uk buyers in stamp ewty. ee— more for than uk buyers in stamp ewty. tee t— more for than uk buyers in stamp ewty. tee t thhh— more for than uk buyers in stamp duty. do i think the— more for than uk buyers in stamp duty. do i think the problem ? duty. do i think the problem? are yew— duty. do i think the problem? are yew reetty— duty. do i think the problem? are you ready, brenda ? bingo. are you ready, brenda? bingo. cemha— are you ready, brenda? bingo. cemma we— are you ready, brenda? bingo. cemma we .— are you ready, brenda? bingo. coming up . because this was coming up. because this was eemeththa— coming up. because this was something that— coming up. because this was something that really happened when— something that really happened when terre— something that really happened when boris johnson was mayor of tertem— when boris johnson was mayor of teheeh. ahe— when boris johnson was mayor of london. and there— when boris johnson was mayor of london. and there was a huge behemo— london. and there was a huge building boom,— london. and there was a huge building boom, particularly erehe— building boom, particularly around vauxhall and nine elms, where— around vauxhall and nine elms, where he— around vauxhall and nine elms, where lots and— around vauxhall and nine elms, where lots and lots of high end property— where lots and lots of high end ereeerry ere— where lots and lots of high end property were sold— where lots and lots of high end property were sold off plan. so hetere— property were sold off plan. so hetere they-t — property were sold off plan. so before they'd even put a spade in before they'd even put a spade he the— before they'd even put a spade he the greene— before they'd even put a spade in the ground and— before they'd even put a spade in the ground and many of those ereeerttee— in the ground and many of those ereeerttee were— in the ground and many of those properties were sold to foreign

thweeeret— properties were sold to foreign hweeeret .— properties were sold to foreign investors , offshore trusts, and investors, offshore trusts, and they— investors, offshore trusts, and they remained. _ investors, offshore trusts, and they remained. and for all i mew.— they remained. and for all i know. would— they remained. and for all i know. would they have been built thewah— know. would they have been built thoughrjoe? — know. would they have been built though, joe? would— know. would they have been built though, joe? : though, joe? would they have been built if it weren't for people buying them off? plan you would have to ask them. t hey— you would have to ask them. they mey— you would have to ask them. they mey het— you would have to ask them. they may not have— you would have to ask them. well, they may not have been. well, well, but but i mean,- they may not have been. well, well, but but i mean, that- well, but but i mean, that eeeeh-t— well, but but i mean, that doesn't solve— well, but but i mean, that doesn't solve the problem. it eeeeh-t— doesn't solve the problem. it teeeh-t tt— doesn't solve the problem. it doesn't it doesn't— doesn't solve the problem. it doesn't it doesn't solve it. it eeeeh-t— doesn't it doesn't solve it. it doesn't solve— doesn't it doesn't solve it. it doesn't solve the— doesn't it doesn't solve it. it doesn't solve the problem. if yee— doesn't solve the problem. if yew-we-e— doesn't solve the problem. if yew-we-e tet— doesn't solve the problem. if you've-a lot of- doesn't solve the problem. if you've a lot of buildings you've got a lot of buildings thet—tt- you've got a lot of buildingsj thet—tt teee you've got a lot of buildings. that—it does is that are empty, what it does is it that are empty, what it does is tt teteety— that are empty, what it does is it falsely inflates— that are empty, what it does is it falsely inflates the value for it falsely inflates the value ter—erehehy- for the for the property eemeeny— for the for the property eemeehy. tt— for the for the property company. it doesn't do anything to company. it doesn't do anything te ettewete— company. it doesn't do anything to alleviate the— company. it doesn't do anything to alleviate the housing erehtem— to alleviate the housing problem. the- to alleviate the housing problem. the thing really like problem. the thing i really like ehewt— problem. the thing i really like ehewt the— problem. the thing i really like about the labour— problem. the thing i really like about the labour proposals, theh— about the labour proposals, theh ee— about the labour proposals, theh ee-eey.- about the labour proposals, which as say, are only which as you say, are only ereeeeete— which as you say, are only ereeeeete .— which as you say, are only ereeeeete . te— which as you say, are only proposals , is that on proposals, is that on development, which i think proposals, is that on— development, which i think would be development, which i think would he mech— development, which i think would he mweh mere— development, which i think would be much more relevant outside of big etttee— be much more relevant outside of big etttee .— be much more relevant outside of big etttee . te— be much more relevant outside of big the . he he— be much more relevant outside of big cities , is, is that— be much more relevant outside of big cities , is, is that local big cities, is, is that local eeeete— big cities, is, is that local people would— big cities, is, is that local people would have a there would be people would have a there would he e— people would have a there would he e eh— people would have a there would be a six month— people would have a there would be a six month period where teeet— be a six month period where teeet eeeete— be a six month period where teeet eeeete .— be a six month period where local people , first time buyers, local people, first time buyers, wewte— local people, first time buyers, wewte hewe— local people, first time buyers, would have first— local people, first time buyers, would have first dibs on new developments,— would have first dibs on new developments, which i think is eme— developments, which i think is ewtte e— developments, which i think is qute e aeee— developments, which i think is quite a good thing. what property— quite a good thing. what ereeerry ehe— quite a good thing. what property and i know you're erehehty— property and i know you're erehehty going— property and i know you're probably going to say , no, no, probably going to say, no, no, no, you're completely wrong. no, why— no, you're completely wrong. no, why wewte— no, you're completely wrong. no, why we t— no, you're completely wrong. no, why we t te—

no, you're completely wrong. no, why would i do that? joe? well, i why would i do that? joe? well, t ten-t— why would i do that? joe? well, t teh-t mew— why would i do that? joe? well, i don't know because i. you te— i don't know because i. you never do that. _ i don't know because i. you never do that. �*tettre;.. ..: never do that. well, you used to play never do that. well, you used to play homes as opposed to property. shouldn't be about eeeewtetteh— property. shouldn't be about eeeewtetteh .— property. shouldn't be about speculation . there- shouldn't be about speculation . there are too many speculation. there are too many eeeete— speculation. there are too many eeeete wtthewt— speculation. there are too many people without decent homes in this people without decent homes in the eethry— people without decent homes in this country while _ people without decent homes in this country while places sit empty— this country while places sit emery th— this country while places sit empty in order— this country while places sit empty in order to, you know , pay empty in order to, you know, pay mehey— empty in order to, you know, pay mehey thte— empty in order to, you know, pay money into offshore bank accounts. well,- money into offshore bank accounts. well, is it is it zero? some— accounts. well, is it is it zero? get accounts. well, is it is it zero? g �*" accounts. well, is it is it- zero? some game if we don't accounts. well, is it is it zero? some game if we don't give property allow if we clamp down on foreign buyers of properties is that actually going to have any benefit our failure living here already, our failure to produce the requisite number of houses each year has got nothing to do with foreign buyers of property. the to do with foreign buyers of property . the real problem to do with foreign buyers of property. the real problem is thet— property. the real problem is me we— property. the real problem is her we etmety— property. the real problem is that we simply can't- the real problem is that we simply can't build heee— that we simply can't build houses fast— that we simply can't build houses fast enough. and if you teeh— houses fast enough. and if you teeh-ewer— houses fast enough. and if you look-over the— houses fast enough. and if you look-over the last- houses fast enough. and if you look over the last 40 years look back over the last 40 years of look back over the last 40 years et hewee— look back over the last 40 years of house building— look back over the last 40 years of house building united of house building in the united hhatem— of house building in the united kingdomr the— of house building in the united kingdom, the high water mark is just kingdom, the high water mark is we ever— kingdom, the high water mark is just over 200,000 _ kingdom, the high water mark is just over 200,000 a year. and we've been sitting— just over 200,000 a year. and we've been sitting at about teeooo— we've been sitting at about tsoeoo e— we've been sitting at about 150,000 a year— we've been sitting at about 150,000 a year for the last ten yee— 150,000 a year for the last ten ye at— 150,000 a year for the last ten ye at ehe— 150,000 a year for the last ten years. at and the— 150,000 a year for the last ten years. at and the real issue eaehh— years. at and the real issue eaerh ehe— years. at and the real issue eaerh ehe t— years. at and the real issue again, and i come back to it and

it's again, and i come back to it and th e— again, and i come back to it and th e htt— again, and i come back to it and th e htt twe— again, and i come back to it and it's a bit like employment law. the— it's a bit like employment law. the reet— it's a bit like employment law. the real issue— it's a bit like employment law. the real issue is— it's a bit like employment law. the real issue is that getting threwah— the real issue is that getting threwah the— the real issue is that getting through the planning process and all through the planning process and ett the— through the planning process and ett the eeete— through the planning process and all the costs associated with germa— all the costs associated with getting planning permission, eweh— getting planning permission, eweh ee— getting planning permission, such as community levies, the reewtremeht— such as community levies, the requirement to— such as community levies, the requirement to build infrastructure around your heweha— infrastructure around your housing developments, everything else housing developments, everything etee-yew— housing developments, everything etee-yew eewh— housing developments, everything else-you down and- housing developments, everything else you down and makes else slows you down and makes teee— else slows you down and makes less development— else slows you down and makes less development come forward . less development come forward. ahe— less development come forward. the whet— less development come forward. the whet we— less development come forward. and what we need— less development come forward. and what we need is direct emwtetteh— and what we need is direct emulation of— and what we need is direct emulation of the planning system . we— emulation of the planning system . we heee— emulation of the planning system . we need te— emulation of the planning system . we need to make— emulation of the planning system . we need to make it easier, ewteter— . we need to make it easier, queter ehe— . we need to make it easier, quicker and cheaper to build . quicker and cheaper to build. thet-e— quicker and cheaper to build. we the— quicker and cheaper to build. that's the first— quicker and cheaper to build. that's the first thing. then the ether— that's the first thing. then the ether threa— that's the first thing. then the other thing which— that's the first thing. then the other thing which i find quite mh— other thing which i find quite rteh ehewt— other thing which i find quite rich about the— other thing which i find quite rich about the labour party and we mey— rich about the labour party and we mey treearee— rich about the labour party and we may disagree here, is that they— we may disagree here, is that they teth— we may disagree here, is that they talk about— we may disagree here, is that they talk about the demand eteeee— they talk about the demand eteeee eh— they talk about the demand placed on housing from foreign mh— placed on housing from foreign rteh hwyere— placed on housing from foreign rteh hwyere et— placed on housing from foreign rich buyers of uk— placed on housing from foreign rich buyers of uk property, but whet— rich buyers of uk property, but whet ehewt— rich buyers of uk property, but what about the _ rich buyers of uk property, but what about the demand on uk heweha— what about the demand on uk hewema trem — what about the demand on uk housing from unmitigated open hereeree— housing from unmitigated open hereeree vee— housing from unmitigated open borders? you know , last year we borders? you know, last year we hee— borders? you know, last year we hee teaet— borders? you know, last year we had legal forget— borders? you know, last year we had legal forget about the ttteaet— had legal forget about the illegal migrant. last year we hee— illegal migrant. last year we hee teaet— illegal migrant. last year we had legal migration of a net 500,000— had legal migration of a net 500,000 that— had legal migration of a net 500,000 that would soak up in its 500,000 that would soak up in he ehttrety— 500,000 that would soak up in its entirety all— 500,000 that would soak up in its entirety all the— 500,000 that would soak up in its entirety all the new homes thet— its entirety all the new homes me were— its entirety all the new homes that were built— its entirety all the new homes that were built last year. and the— that were built last year. and the yeer— that were built last year. and the yeer ttt— that were built last year. and this year i'll just— that were built last year. and this year i'll just finish this yeer.— this year i'll just finish this yeer. were— this year i'll just finish this year. we're forecast to have net

teaet— year. we're forecast to have net teaet mtaretteh— year. we're forecast to have net legal migration 700,000 people. so legal migration 700,000 people. se th— legal migration 700,000 people. se th twe— legal migration 700,000 people. se th twe yeere— legal migration 700,000 people. so in two years we— legal migration 700,000 people. so in two years we would have hee— so in two years we would have hee e— so in two years we would have hee e etty— so in two years we would have hee e my the— so in two years we would have had a city the size— so in two years we would have had a city the size of manchester. - had a city the size of manchester. no wonder we've got a manchester. no wonder we've got e heweha— manchester. no wonder we've got a housing problem. that's the elephant in the room. but presumably the far left of the labour party would be quite comfortable seizing the property of well , they would saying you of well, they would saying you don't need five. but what they're saying. but emily, we'll give it to five refugees instead. but the messaging here is no we don't want your investment united investment in the united kingdom. we foreign kingdom. we don't want foreign mehey— kingdom. we don't want foreign mehey eemma— kingdom. we don't want foreign mehey eemma th— 3: we don't want foreign money coming in, which good money coming in, which is good for money coming in, which is good ter-eeehemy— money coming in, which is good for-economy and— money coming in, which is good for economy and good for our economy and good for the term.— for our economy and good for the heete-we— for our economy and good for the heete-we-te- for our economy and good for the heete-we-te eh- pound. what we want is an whhrtttee— pound. what we want is an unbridled unskilled . unbridled unskilled. immigration, which actually puts a immigration, which actually puts e heee— immigration, which actually puts e hwae hereeh— immigration, which actually puts a huge burden not— immigration, which actually puts a huge burden not just on heweha— a huge burden not just on housing, but— a huge burden not just on housing, but on all infrastructure. and that's the tehewr— infrastructure. and that's the tehewr herty— infrastructure. and that's the labour party messaging, no eheeher— labour party messaging, no cheaper housing, which is what eeehte— cheaper housing, which is what people struggling to get, people are struggling to get, reh-t— people are struggling to get, teh-t-tt-e— people are struggling to get, isn't-it's-like- people are struggling to get, isn't-it's-like most. isn't it? it's not like most people are struggling to get a £2 million flat in absolute right. and cheap right. no, absolutely. and cheap housing, affordable housing, it's affordable housing. and the problem is that the housing. and the problem is that the eewetehere— housing. and the problem is that the developers for— housing. and the problem is that the developers for too— e“; and the problem is that the developers for too long have tewhe— the developers for too long have tewhe weye— the developers for too long have tewhe weye te— the developers for too long have found ways to get— the developers for too long have found ways to get away , say with

found ways to get away, say with not found ways to get away, say with he terna— found ways to get away, say with he teha e— found ways to get away, say with not doing a quota— found ways to get away, say with not doing a quota of affordable heweho— not doing a quota of affordable housing, they're— not doing a quota of affordable housing, they're obliged to. joe,— housing, they're obliged to. he r— housing, they're obliged to. joer t mew— housing, they're obliged to. joe, i know they— housing, they're obliged to. joe, i know they are. but what heeeehe— joe, i know they are. but what heeeehe te— joe, i know they are. but what heeeehe te tt— joe, i know they are. but what happens is it depends on the teeet— happens is it depends on the local authority. _ happens is it depends on the local authority. some it's as tew— local authority. some it's as tew ee— local authority. some it's as tew ee wh— local authority. some it's as low as 17% and— local authority. some it's as low as 17% and then they go, oh, tm — low as 17% and then they go, oh, tm reetty— low as 17% and then they go, oh, tm reetty eerry— low as 17% and then they go, oh, i'm really sorry, we— low as 17% and then they go, oh, i'm really sorry, we can't ettere— i'm really sorry, we can't ettert te— i'm really sorry, we can't afford to do— i'm really sorry, we can't afford to do it- i'm really sorry, we can't afford to do it here. we're going— afford to do it here. we're aema te— afford to do it here. we're aema te hewe— afford to do it here. we're going to have to build it ettette— going to have to build it offsite. we've- going to have to build it offsite. we've just been talking ehewt— offsite. we've just been talking ehewt ers— offsite. we've just been talking about gps every— offsite. we've just been talking about gps every time you build ehether— about gps every time you build ehether teee— about gps every time you build another load of— about gps every time you build another load of 700 houses, theh— another load of 700 houses, theh-hwae- another load of 700 houses, which huge estate , another load of 700 houses,- which-huge estate , you which is not a huge estate, you mew— which is not a huge estate, you knew ye— which is not a huge estate, you knew ye going— which is not a huge estate, you know you're going to need erehehty— know you're going to need probably 1400— know you're going to need probably 1400 people. we'll need a probably 1400 people. we'll need e eh — probably1400 people. we'll need e eh seme— probably 1400 people. we'll need e eh seme et— probably 1400 people. we'll need a gp. some of those people will heee— a gp. some of those people will need e— a gp. some of those people will need a school.— a gp. some of those people will need a school. you've got eeheete— need a school. you've got schools closing - need a school. you've got schools closing in london heeewee— schools closing in london because people are moving out. heeete— because people are moving out. heeete wtth— because people are moving out. people with families . you've got people with families. you've got a people with families. you've got e eherteae— people with families. you've got e eherteae et— people with families. you've got a shortage of rental properties, yee— a shortage of rental properties, ye eet— a shortage of rental properties, you've got second— a shortage of rental properties, you've got second home owners ehe— you've got second home owners ehe going— you've got second home owners ehe aema te— you've got second home owners and we're going to get a much heeer— and we're going to get a much hraaer eheheae— and we're going to get a much bigger shortage town centres thet— bigger shortage town centres thet ere— bigger shortage town centres thet tyma— bigger shortage town centres that are dying on their feet where— that are dying on their feet where yew— that are dying on their feet where you could actually create mech— where you could actually create much more diverse and mixed accommodation.— much more diverse and mixed accommodation. i— much more diverse and mixed accommodation. i think there's erehtem— accommodation. i think there's one problem and— accommodation. i think there's one problem and it speaks to hem— one problem and it speaks to heth et— one problem and it speaks to both of both— one problem and it speaks to both of both of— one problem and it speaks to both of both of you have said. her— both of both of you have said. the there-e— both of both of you have said. the there-e e— both of both of you have said. but there's a lot— both of both of you have said. but there's a lot of— both of both of you have said. but there's a lot of areas- both of both of you have said. but there's a lot of areas in this country where people already have homes and they don't want lots of don't necessarily want lots of new homes to be built there.

they then campaign against new developments, but you can see their point. it's not like they voted for massive migration. no, no one's voted for massive . no, no one's voted for massive. i no, no one's voted for massive. t eee-t— no, no one's voted for massive. t eeh-t t— no, no one's voted for massive. t eeh-t t eee-t— no, no one's voted for massive. t eeh-t t eeh-t t— no, no one's voted for massive. i can't i can't i can't- i can't i can't i can't recollect— i can't i can't i can't recollect anyone having it on ther— recollect anyone having it on their manifesto. _ recollect anyone having it on their manifesto. i have to have loads of new developments where i live. but but, you know, you the— i live. but but, you know, you the herm— i live. but but, you know, you see the point, don't- . but but, you know, you see the point, don't i know what teh— see the point, don't i know what here he— see the point, don't i know what here he eeyma— see the point, don't i know what ben is saying about immigration, teaet— ben is saying about immigration, legal immigration, but don't. i ten-t— legal immigration, but don't. i teh-t yew— legal immigration, but don't. i teh-t yew mew— legal immigration, but don't. i don't you know the houses that are don't you know the houses that herea— don't you know the houses that are being built— don't you know the houses that are being built in— don't you know the houses that are being built in many, many . there— are being built in many, many areas , there are— are being built in many, many areas , there are three, four areas, there are three, four heereem— areas, there are three, four bedroom houses . they are the top bedroom houses. they are the top ehe.— bedroom houses. they are the top ehe. they-re— bedroom houses. they are the top ehe. they-re het— bedroom houses. they are the top end. they're not first time hwyere. — end. they're not first time buyers. they're- end. they're not first time buyers. they're not starter hemee— buyers. they're not starter hemee ter— buyers. they're not starter homes for young people. they're notw— homes for young people. they're het. yew— homes for young people. they're her. yew mew.— homes for young people. they're not, you know, for— homes for young people. they're not, you know, for young couples wtth— not, you know, for young couples wtth ee— not, you know, for young couples wtth hehy— not, you know, for young couples with one baby or— not, you know, for young couples with one baby or maybe two small ehttereh— with one baby or maybe two small children, they're _ with one baby or maybe two small children, they're not— with one baby or maybe two small children, they're not building heee— children, they're not building he the— children, they're not building houses like that— children, they're not building houses like that . and the houses like that. and the three— houses like that. and the biggest problem, of course , is biggest problem, of course, is thet— biggest problem, of course, is me when— biggest problem, of course, is that when we _ biggest problem, of course, is that when we sold off all the eewhett— that when we sold off all the council houses,— that when we sold off all the council houses, local authorities- council houses, local authorities were not allowed to keep— authorities were not allowed to heee the— authorities were not allowed to keep the receipts,— authorities were not allowed to keep the receipts, which would hewe — keep the receipts, which would have enabled— keep the receipts, which would have enabled them had they eheeeh— have enabled them had they eheeeh te— have enabled them had they chosen to build— have enabled them had they chosen to build more social heweha— chosen to build more social heweha. tt— chosen to build more social housing. it went— chosen to build more social housing. it went straight into the exchequer.— housing. it went straight into

the exchequer. and the problem , the exchequer. and the problem, i the exchequer. and the problem, tththh— the exchequer. and the problem, tththh te— the exchequer. and the problem, 1 think, is that— the exchequer. and the problem, i think, is that we've got, you mew.— i think, is that we've got, you knew tee— i think, is that we've got, you know, too many— i think, is that we've got, you know, too many speculative teweteeere— know, too many speculative eeweteeere. t— know, too many speculative developers. i mean, this thing of developers. i mean, this thing et httttha— developers. i mean, this thing of hitting rich— developers. i mean, this thing of hitting rich investors is not going— of hitting rich investors is not going te— of hitting rich investors is not aema te eetwe— of hitting rich investors is not going to solve housing to be heheet. — going to solve housing to be heheet. t— going to solve housing to be honest. i mean,— going to solve housing to be honest. i mean, it- going to solve housing to be honest. e“ . ; honest. i mean, it sounds good. i mean, no one likes the idea of very rich russians, very rich arabs . there are chinese coming arabs. there are chinese coming in and buying up all of these properties, but they are the top end mostly. and i think this is a bit of a populist policy. well, it's a politics of envy to be leaked to leaked to the papers. i don't think it's going to have a measurable difference on any of our lives, but we shall see. let's see what you have to say at home, caroline says.i have to say at home, caroline says. i don't think anyone should have a second home until every in the country has every person in the country has a home. how can someone justify having someone is having two homes when someone is sleeping on the street? but again, if you take away the home of someone, does that mean automatically that the person living on the is going to living on the street is going to have unfortunately not. have a home? unfortunately not. mark says every time the government meddles in the housing market, it makes it

worse. every problem is predicted, seems to predicted, yet still seems to surprise yes, if the labour surprise mps. yes, if the labour party were introduce rent party were to introduce rent controls, example , that controls, for example, that would an unintended would have an unintended consequences that predicted consequences that was predicted , but comes as a surprise to mp that would be a disaster. rent control. i can see it happening. sadiq khan is so desperate to be able to implement rent controls and he'd be out of his job by the time we see the negative and he and we would relearn the lessons that we learned over the last 100 years that it doesn't work. no, you know, we've got to be work. no, you know, we've got to he teee— work. no, you know, we've got to he teee thte— work. no, you know, we've got to be less into honest.— no, you know, we've got to be less into honest. we've got to be less into honest. we've got te rett— be less into honest. we've got te rett heet— be less into honest. we've got to roll back the— be less into honest. we've got to roll back the state and we've got to roll back the state and we've aet te— to roll back the state and we've aet te tet— to roll back the state and we've oer te tet the— to roll back the state and we've got to let the private sector do wen.— got to let the private sector do more. well, just— got to let the private sector do more. well, just very,- got to let the private sector do more. well, just very, very lastly simon, he says it's lastly from simon, he says it's a like closing the stable a bit like closing the stable door horse has bolted door after the horse has bolted the london the laundromat of london property already had property has already had billions washed through it, changing now won't billions washed through it, changinthe now won't billions washed through it, changinthe uk now won't billions washed through it, changinthe uk population. n't billions washed through it, changinthe uk population. only benefit the uk population. only the taxman. is all we've the taxman. that is all we've got for this evening. thank got time for this evening. thank you panel, joe you very much to my panel, joe phillips and ben habib. we have got who have we got up next? we have farage, the man have got nigel farage, the man himself. coming right

himself. he's coming up right at the top of the hour. stay tuned . hello there. welcome to your gb . hello there. welcome to your eh wewe— . hello there. welcome to your gb news weather— hello there. welcome to your gb news weather forecast from the gb news weather forecast from the thet— gb news weather forecast from the met office. _ gb news weather forecast from the met office. i'm craig snell. as the met office. i'm craig snell. we we— the met office. i'm craig snell. we we 90— the met office. i'm craig snell. as we go through— the met office. i'm craig snell. as we go through the next few teye — as we go through the next few teye. reetty— as we go through the next few days, really it's— as we go through the next few days, really it's a— as we go through the next few days, really it's a mixture of ewhehhe— days, really it's a mixture of sunshine and— days, really it's a mixture of sunshine and scattered showers. eeme— sunshine and scattered showers. seme et— sunshine and scattered showers. seme et theee— sunshine and scattered showers. some of these showers will be eme— some of these showers will be ewtte-ehe— some of these showers will be quite and thundery. it's quite heavy and thundery. it's all quite heavy and thundery. it's ett—eree- quite heavy and thundery. it's ett—eree et- quite heavy and thundery. it's all—area of low. all down to this area of low pressure. -really- all down to this area of low pressure. really going all down to this area of low pr

come the afternoon. also quite etew—hehe- come the afternoon. also quite etew—eerte etl slow moving across parts of thatehe— slow moving across parts of thatemt ehe— slow moving across parts of england and wales. so could see a england and wales. so could see e terae— england and wales. so could see a large amounts— england and wales. so could see a large amounts of— england and wales. so could see a large amounts of surface spray on a large amounts of surface spray we the— a large amounts of surface spray we the reeee— a large amounts of surface spray on the roads-do— a large amounts of surface spray on the roads. do take care if on the roads. so do take care if you— on the roads. so do take care if yew ere— on the roads. so do take care if yew ewt— on the roads. so do take care if you are out and— on the roads. so do take care if you are out and about in the ewhehhe— you are out and about in the sunshine though— you are out and about in the sunshine though it will feel tetrty— sunshine though it will feel fairly pleasant.— sunshine though it will feel fairly pleasant. highs reaching 20 fairly pleasant. highs reaching zo-teareee— fairly pleasant. highs reaching zo-eeareee th— fairly pleasant. highs reaching 20 degrees in the south. 20 or 21 degrees in the south. the— 20 or 21 degrees in the south. the ehere— 20 or 21 degrees in the south. the showers will— 20 or 21 degrees in the south. the showers will rumble on as we go the showers will rumble on as we 90 the— the showers will rumble on as we 90 the the— the showers will rumble on as we go into the evening,— the showers will rumble on as we go into the evening, but for meet— go into the evening, but for meet-twrh- go into the evening, but for. most-turn-and most it should turn drier and tee— most it should turn drier and clearer as we _ most it should turn drier and clearer as we head towards mttntaht— clearer as we head towards mttmaht-tt— clearer as we head towards midnight. it won't last in midnight. but it won't last in the midnight. but it won't last in the—etl midnight. but it won't last in. the—et the west, another band of rain ehe— the west, another band of rain ehe ehere— the west, another band of rain and showers will— the west, another band of rain and showers will spread here. and showers will spread in here. but and showers will spread in here. th ever— and showers will spread in here. but over towards— and showers will spread in here. but over towards the east, with the but over towards the east, with the-ehee— but over towards the east, with the - skies, cooler- but over towards the east, with the skies, cooler night the clearer skies, cooler night theh— the clearer skies, cooler night then-mam— the clearer skies, cooler night then-mam te— the clearer skies, cooler night than night to come. but out than the night to come. but out teweree— than the night to come. but out tewerte-weet.— than the night to come. but out towards west, another mild towards the west, another mild one-temperatures- towards the west, another mild one temperatures here one with temperatures here eteyma — one with temperatures here staying-double. one with temperatures here staying double figures staying firmly in double figures . se— staying firmly in double figures . se etter— staying firmly in double figures . so after some— staying firmly in double figures . so after some sunshine in the eeet— . so after some sunshine in the eeet. ee— . so after some sunshine in the east, as we start— . so after some sunshine in the east, as we start wednesday, reetty— east, as we start wednesday, reetty tt— east, as we start wednesday, reetty tt aeee— east, as we start wednesday, really it goes downhill from the wee— really it goes downhill from the weet ee— really it goes downhill from the weet ee thre— really it goes downhill from the west as this next— really it goes downhill from the west as this next band of rain ehe— west as this next band of rain ehe ehere— west as this next band of rain and showers spread its way in. ahe— and showers spread its way in. the everett— and showers spread its way in. and overall, really, wednesday is and overall, really, wednesday te ehether— and overall, really, wednesday is another-of— and overall, really, wednesday is another of bright spells is another day of bright spells ehe—ahe- is another day of bright spells. ehe—me eaeh and scattered showers. and again . eeme-them— and scattered showers. and again , some them showers could , some of them showers could eetehttetty— , some of them showers couldi potentially—and potentially be quite heavy and thwheery— potentially be quite heavy and thmeery very— potentially be quite heavy and thundery very little changes as we 90— thundery very little changes as we 90 me— thundery very little changes as we go into thursday. another day of we go into thursday. another day et ewhehhe— we go into thursday. another day of sunshine and— we go into thursday. another day of sunshine and showers, but heeetwtty— of sunshine and showers, but hopefully something a little bit ther— hopefully something a little bit the eemha— hopefully something a little bit drier coming through as we go

the— drier coming through as we go the .—

fri day fhday good i friday- good evening | trteey- good evening . | trteey— good evening . we friday good evening . we look back good evening. we look back tonight and really magnificent weekend and talk about the future of the monarchy. i think it looks pretty rock solid, but of course, we haven't really debated yet the local elections on thursday. we'll debate are the tories doomed at the next general election? i think not only are they, but they probably thoroughly deserve to be. we'll look at the rental market and ask, is a leading city businessman right when he calls michael gove a communist? and i'll tell you about a row that is brewing between the television awards and my nomination to be news presenter of the year. yes, that really is