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well good afternoon, everybody. it's patrick christys here on gb news. — it's patrick christys here on gb news. n-s— it's patrick christys here on gb news. n-sjust— it's patrick christys here on gb news. it's just gone 3 pm. i wm— news. it's just gone 3 pm. i will be— news. it's just gone 3 pm. i will be with— news. it's just gone 3 pm. i will be with you— news. it's just gone 3 pm. i will be with you for the next three— will be with you for the next three hours,— will be with you for the next three hours, but— will be with you for the next three hours, but here is what u-ve— three hours, but here is what we got— three hours, but here is what we got coming— three hours, but here is what i've got coming up in the next 60 minutes.— i've got coming up in the next 60 minutes. so— i've got coming up in the next 60 minutes. so boris versus charms,— 60 minutes. so boris versus charles, apparently. and charles, apparently. ladies and gentlemen— charles, apparently. ladies and gentlemeniyes._ charles, apparently. ladies and gentlemen yes. royal gentlemen. yes. a big royal mm..— gentlemen. yes. a big royal rumble supposedly , according to rumble supposedly, according to reports,— rumble supposedly, according to reports,-johnson- rumble supposedly, according to reports, johnson squared reports, boris johnson squared uplthe— reports, boris johnson squared uplthe then— reports, boris johnson squared up the then prince charles up to the then prince charles ms— up to the then prince charles over his opposition to the rwanda— over his opposition to the rwanda scheme. i'm asking you , rwanda scheme. i'm asking you, eating— rwanda scheme. i'm asking you, eating boris— rwanda scheme. i'm asking you, ettttg torts gt— rwanda scheme. i'm asking you, eating boris or are— rwanda scheme. i'm asking you, eating boris or are you team cttttest — eating boris or are you team cttttest tn— eating boris or are you team charles? in other- eating boris or are you team charles? " charles? in other news but related, though, that migrant boat arrived. apparently, boat has arrived. apparently, yes. stockholm yes. the bibby stockholm is supposedly around the supposedly pulling up around the dorset area. we'll have some toottge—tttt- dorset area. we'll have some. footage—also going footage of it. we're also going to talking about whether or to be talking about whether or not it's actually a feasible plan find around
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not it's actually a feasible plan spaces find around not it's actually a feasible plan spaces for find around not it's actually a feasible plan spaces for people. well d not it's actually a feasible plan spaces for people. well , 500 spaces for people. well, that amount arrives- jq�*q�* f well, that amount arrives every add f well, that amount arrives every single day ,— that amount arrives every single tag , toest-t— that amount arrives every single tag , doesn't-in— that amount arrives every single day , doesn't in other news, day, doesn't it? in other news, though,— day, doesn't it? in other news, though...— day, doesn't it? in other news, though... we-te— day, doesn't it? in other news, though, , we're also going to though, yes, we're also going to be though, yes, we're also going to te-tteut— though, yes, we're also going to be-about this- though, yes, we're also going to be-about this now- be talking about this now with all be talking about this now with ttt-tteut— be talking about this now with all-about gps- all the talk about gps receptionists- all the talk about gps receptionists being asked to do tet— receptionists being asked to do tot tte— receptionists being asked to do more for the gps— receptionists being asked to do more for the gps and pharmacists tetng— more for the gps and pharmacists tetng tetet— more for the gps and pharmacists tettg asked to— more for the gps and pharmacists being asked to do— more for the gps and pharmacists being asked to do more for the es— being asked to do more for the we — being asked to do more for the me out— being asked to do more for the me out eps— being asked to do more for the gps. our gps lazy- being asked to do more for the gps . o; t: that's being asked to do more for the gps . til. " c, that's what gps. our gps lazy. that's what we — gps. our gps lazy. that's what t-m getng— gps. our gps lazy. that's what t-m gettg te— gps. our gps lazy. that's what t-m gettg to te— gps. our gps lazy. that's what i'm going to be talking- gps. til. " c, that's what i'm going to be talking about. gps. til. " ti“, that's what i'm going to be talking about. att— i'm going to be talking about. ant te— i'm going to be talking about. ant to just— i'm going to be talking about. and to just wrap— i'm going to be talking about. and to just wrap us— i'm going to be talking about. and to just wrap us off- i'm going to be talking about. and to just wrap us off as- i'm going to be talking about. and to just wrap us off as well, this is going to be fascinating. don't take your eyes off this tettee— don't take your eyes off this because this— don't take your eyes off this because this is— don't take your eyes off this because this is updating every tatt— because this is updating every ttttltett— because this is updating every half-hour-hour.- because this is updating every. half-hour-hour.-met half an hour or an hour. the met gette— half an hour or an hour. the met police originally— half an hour or an hour. the met police originally had expressed some-regret— police originally had expressed some-regret-theirl some kind of regret over their attest— arrest at the coronation, but new-teet— arrest at the coronation, but now-last half- arrest at the coronation, but now-last half an- arrest at the coronation, but now last half an hour or now in the last half an hour or tat— now in the last half an hour or so, we've had the— now in the last half an hour or so, we've had the top cop at the get,— so, we've had the top cop at the met, matt— so, we've had the top cop at the met, mark rowley,_ so, we've had the top cop at the met, mark rowley, out and met, mark rowley, come out and say met, mark rowley, come out and eat-they— met, mark rowley, come out and eat-they tetttttt— met, mark rowley, come out and say they actually did find say that they actually did find geette— say that they actually did findi people—possession say that they actually did find. people—possession of people who were in possession of tttnge— people who were in possession of tttnge-ttttme- people who were in possession of things alarms, paint things like rape alarms, paint tet— things like rape alarms, paint ant—eetttl and other devices that could be teet— and other devices that could be teetlttetttt— and other devices that could be used disrupt proceedings. used to disrupt the proceedings. ant— used to disrupt the proceedings. and disappointing and they say it's disappointing that— and they say it's disappointing that-cant— and they say it's disappointing that-can't share- and they say it's disappointing that can't share the and they say it's disappointing that that can't share the and they say it's disappointing that that can" have e the and they say it's disappointing that that can"havee soz and they say it's disappointing that that can"havee so this info that they have got. so this row - on. patrick - info that they have got. so this row on. patrick christys row rumbles on. patrick christys on row rumbles on. patrick christys en et— row rumbles on. patrick christys on ee newe— row rumbles on. patrick christys on gb news, britain's news. cttnttet — on gb news, britain's news. channel yeah,— on gb news, britain's news. channel / ti'i'fg « on gb news, britain's news.- channel yeah, well, gb views the gb news .uk get those emails
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coming in thick and fast. and we have a poll taking— coming in thick and fast. and we have a poll taking place- coming in thick and fast. and we have a poll taking place on- have a poll taking place on twtttet— have a poll taking place on twitter right— have a poll taking place on twitter right now. are you team totte— twitter right now. are you team bette et— twitter right now. are you team bette or team— twitter right now. are you team boris or team charles? that news that— boris or team charles? that news that totte— boris or team charles? that news that boris johnson— boris or team charles? that news that boris johnson reportedly boris or team charles? that news that b much hnson reportedly boris or team charles? that news that b much squared portedly boris or team charles? that news that b much squared uptedly boris or team charles? that news that b much squared up toily boris or team charles? that news that b much squared up to the pretty much squared up to the then— pretty much squared up to the then tttnee— pretty much squared up to the then prince charles who had etttet— then prince charles who had etttet tte— then prince charles who had called the rwanda plan appalling?— called the rwanda plan appalling? get your views coming in appalling? get your views coming tn—tettttnee- appalling? get your views coming in _ headlines .- appalling? get your views coming in _ headlines. - in now though. headlines. tent.— in now though. headlines. tettt. egot— in now though. headlines. hello. good afternoon- in now though. headlines. hello. good afternoon from the gb newsroom . i'm tamsin roberts. gb newsroom. i'm tamsin roberts. it's 3:02. the information commissioner's office says it will not be taking any action against lancashire police over its disclosure of nicola bully's personal information on the force came under criticism after the 45 year old's body was discovered in the river wyre in february after a three week search. meanwhile the police watchdog, the independent office for police conduct, also says it's identified two areas of learning after the force had contact with nicola bully in the days before she went missing. an independent review by the college of policing into the handung college of policing into the handling of the case is also
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underway with findings and recommendations due to be published in the autumn . the met published in the autumn. the met police commissioner has defended his force's policing of the coronation after it was criticised for arresting republican protesters ahead of the event. sir mark rowley described the arrest as unfortunate but stressed he supports the arresting officer's actions. the force confirmed the individuals face no further action after being stopped under the new public order act . the the new public order act. the prime minister has today said he supports people's right to protest , but says the new laws protest, but says the new laws are needed to protect against serious disruption in pharmacy lists will be able to give prescription medicine without a gp sign off in the latest government plans to ease the pressure on doctors under the measures, patients will be able to get treatments for seven common conditions , including a common conditions, including a sore throat and earache. that's without seeing a doctor . it's without seeing a doctor. it's hoped the new guidelines, which will come into place this winter, will free up to 15
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million slots at surgeries over the next two years. prime minister rishi sunak says the measures will also help cut waiting times for those seeking medical help. 80% of the country twee— medical help. 80% of the country ttvee abett— medical help. 80% of the country lives about 20— medical help. 80% of the country lives about 20 minutes— “tit: ti.it 80% of the country lives about 20 minutes walk “tit: i 80% of the country lives about 20 minutes walk from a pharmacy— lives about 20 minutes walk from a pharmacy ant— lives about 20 minutes walk from a pharmacy and for— lives about 20 minutes walk from a pharmacy and for many people teete— a pharmacy and for many people ttete ae— a pharmacy and for many people there are easier— a pharmacy and for many people there are easier a— a pharmacy and for many people there are easier a place to that— there are easier a place to access than their surgery . access than their surgery. that-e— access than their surgery. ttat-e att— access than their surgery. that's why we're investing more in that's why we're investing more tn them— that's why we're investing more tn ttem ant— that's why we're investing more in them and allowing them to do atat— in them and allowing them to do ant-tast- in them and allowing them to do more. and just more more. and it's not just more mettetnee— more. and it's not just more medicines that— more. and it's not just more medicines that people will be atte— medicines that people will be atte-ttete. — medicines that people will be able -there. -bel able to get there. they'll be atte—ttaat- able to get there. they'll be- able_blood pressure able to get more blood pressure cheate— able to get more blood pressure checks-indeed— able to get more blood pressure checks indeed contraception checks or indeed contraception as checks or indeed contraception. ae—tte as well. so we're expanding the tange— as well. so we're expanding the tangeleetvteee— as well. so we're expanding the range-services that- as well. so we're expanding the range services that people range of services that people get— range of services that people get tram — range of services that people can get from their pharmacies . can get from their pharmacies. that-e— can get from their pharmacies. teats—ease- that's good. it will ease pressure system and that's good. it will ease- pressure-system and mean pressure on the system and mean that— pressure on the system and mean that-catt— pressure on the system and mean that-eat get— pressure on the system and mean that-can get access- pressure on the system and mean that can get access to that people can get access to the— that people can get access to the-eate— that people can get access to the-care thet- that people can get access to the care they need the health care they need gutter.— the health care they need quicker. and _ the health care they need quicker. and it— the health care they need quicker. and it backs all our tantaette— quicker. and it backs all our fantastic pharmacies as well wttt— fantastic pharmacies as well wttt-tanttng- fantastic pharmacies as well with-funding at- fantastic pharmacies as well with funding at gp anita with extra funding at gp anita tat-a— with extra funding at gp anita tat-a tatt— with extra funding at gp anita tat-a tatt ae— with extra funding at gp anita raja told us she's sceptical of the— raja told us she's sceptical of tne new— raja told us she's sceptical of the new plans.— raja told us she's sceptical of the new plans. _ raja told us she's sceptical of the new plans. /tit. tit“t: the new plans. you know, and i know that at the moment there are so many hundreds of pharmacies have already closed down. imean pharmacies have already closed down. i mean , you know, by the down. i mean, you know, by the ttne— down. i mean, you know, by the ttne tnte— down. i mean, you know, by the ttne tnte te— down. i mean, you know, by the time this is going— down. i mean, you know, by the time this is going to— : i mean, you know, by the time this is going to be tngtenent— time this is going to be implement, we may not have a pnatnaat— implement, we may not have a pnatnaat-sa- implement, we may not have a pharmacy so everybody pharmacy near us. so everybody is pharmacy near us. so everybody te anten— pharmacy near us. so everybody te nntet a— pharmacy near us. so everybody te nntet a tat— pharmacy near us. so everybody is under a lot of— pharmacy near us. so everybody is under a lot of pressure. so we— is under a lot of pressure. so we need— is under a lot of pressure. so we need ta— is under a lot of pressure. so we need to really,-
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is under a lot of pressure. so we need to really, really, teattw— we need to really, really, really-towards- we need to really, really, really towards capacity, really work towards capacity, aagaattw— really work towards capacity, aagaattw .— really work towards capacity, aagaattw , natty— really work towards capacity, capacity , motty retrain rick capacity, motty retrain rick tatte— capacity, motty retrain rick tawte ant,— capacity, motty retrain rick route and, you— capacity, motty retrain rick route and, you know, and value want— route and, you know, and value want neattn— route and, you know, and value your health care— route and, you know, and value your health care staff . the your health care staff. the tanne— your health care staff. the former prime— your health care staff. the former prime minister of tattetan— former prime minister of pakistan has— former prime minister of pakistan has been arrested in tetanatat— pakistan has been arrested in islamabad as— pakistan has been arrested in islamabad as supporters of the nattttetan— islamabad as supporters of the politician are— islamabad as supporters of the politician are being told to snat— politician are being told to enwt tne— politician are being told to shut the country down. i shut the country down. local menta— shut the country down. local netta taw— shut the country down. local neata say the— shut the country down. local media say the former cricketer was taken by a paramilitary force from court premises in the capital where he was taken away under heavy security . it's under heavy security. it's thought he's been arrested in connection with a corruption case in ran. khan was ousted from power in a paramilitary vote in april last year. from power in a paramilitary vote in april last year . the vote in april last year. the prime minister has rejected claims made by the russian president that the west is to blame for the war in ukraine. rishi sunak says president putin is the only person responsible for the invasion that he's called illegal and unprovoked. it follows comments mr putin made during a speech at the annual victory day parade, where he claimed a so called real war is being waged and claims his
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country is defending its sovereignty. the country is defending its sovereignty . the western global sovereignty. the western global etttee— sovereignty. the western global etttee etttt— sovereignty. the western global elites still preach— ”ti: 9th the western global elites still preach about their exceptionalism_ elites still preach about their exceptionalism .— elites still preach about their exceptionalism . they're pitting exceptionalism. they're pitting geante— exceptionalism. they're pitting geagte agatnet— exceptionalism. they're pitting people against each other and ttwttng— people against each other and dividing society— people against each other and dividing society ,_ people against each other and dividing society , provoking dividing society, provoking aantttate— dividing society, provoking conflicts and— dividing society, provoking conflicts and coups, sowing nattet— conflicts and coups, sowing nattet . — conflicts and coups, sowing hatred . t conflicts and coups, sowing- hatred . russophobia, aggressive hatred. russophobia, aggressive nationalism and destroying the traditions , family values that traditions, family values that make people people they seem to have forgotten what the claim to world supremacy led to forgotten who defeated this horrible total evil, who stood up for their homeland and did not spare their lives for the people of europe . lives for the people of europe. european commission president ursula von der leyen is in kyiv for talks with president zelenskyy her arrival comes atten— zelenskyy her arrival comes after russia _ zelenskyy her arrival comes after russia fired— her arrival comes after russia fired cruise nteette— after russia fired cruise missile strikes in ukraine this natntng— missile strikes in ukraine this morning. smoke— missile strikes in ukraine this morning. smoke trails from exgtaetane— morning. smoke trails from explosions have— morning. smoke trails from explosions have been seen in the cantat— explosions have been seen in the aanttat wttn— explosions have been seen in the capital with local— explosions have been seen in the capital with local officials eawtng— capital with local officials eawtng tnett— capital with local officials saying their air defence systems snat— saying their air defence systems enat nast— saying their air defence systems enat meet at— saying their air defence systems shot most of the— saying their air defence systems shot most of the missiles down. a manne— shot most of the missiles down. a tange— shot most of the missiles down. a marine barge which will be
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teet— a marine barge which will be used ta— a marine barge which will be used to house— a marine barge which will be used to house migrants, has annea— used to house migrants, has antwet tn— used to house migrants, has arrived in uk— used to house migrants, has arrived in uk waters. the bbc staetnatn— arrived in uk waters. the bbc stockholm docked in falmouth this stockholm docked in falmouth tnte natntng— stockholm docked in falmouth this morning to— stockholm docked in falmouth this morning to be refurbished aneat— this morning to be refurbished aneat at— this morning to be refurbished aneat at ttn— this morning to be refurbished ahead of its use— this morning to be refurbished ahead of its use as a housing ente— ahead of its use as a housing entte tat— ahead of its use as a housing centre for the— ahead of its use as a housing centre for the three storey tange— centre for the three storey tatge wtt— centre for the three storey barge will be— centre for the three storey barge will be used for at least 18 barge will be used for at least te nantne— barge will be used for at least 18 months and— barge will be used for at least 18 months and can hold up to 500 people— 18 months and can hold up to 500 geagte ae— 18 months and can hold up to 500 geagte as we— 18 months and can hold up to 500 people as they wait— 18 months and can hold up to 500 people as they wait for their aewtwn— people as they wait for their asylum claims— people as they wait for their asylum claims to be processed . asylum claims to be processed. it's asylum claims to be processed. tt-e natt— asylum claims to be processed. we want at— asylum claims to be processed. we want at a— asylum claims to be processed. it's part of a government scheme to mate— it's part of a government scheme to aewtwn— it's part of a government scheme to move asylum seekers away from eastw— to move asylum seekers away from aaettw natet— to move asylum seekers away from costly hotel accommodation . costly hotel accommodation. antwtanee— costly hotel accommodation. ambulance workers in the sewn—east— ambulance workers in the south—east are- ambulance workers in the south—east are striking today as the south—east are striking today as tne untan— south—east are striking today as the union escalates its industrial— the union escalates its industrial action over pay . industrial action over pay. tntte-e— industrial action over pay. unite's members employed at sawtn— unite's members employed at south central— unite's members employed at south central and south east coast— south central and south east coast ambulance service nhs nast— coast ambulance service nhs ttwet wtt— coast ambulance service nhs trust will strike— coast ambulance service nhs trust will strike until 10:00 tantgtt— trust will strike until 10:00 tantgnt. tast— trust will strike until 10:00 tonight. last month the members teteatet— tonight. last month the members teteatet tne — tonight. last month the members rejected the government's offer of rejected the government's offer at a— rejected the government's offer at a tuna — rejected the government's offer of a lump sum cash payment and a 5% of a lump sum cash payment and a an taw— of a lump sum cash payment and a an paw nee— of a lump sum cash payment and a 5% pay rise. members of the atne— 5% pay rise. members of the other health— 5% pay rise. members of the other health unions accepted tnat— other health unions accepted tnat atten— other health unions accepted that offer. this— other health unions accepted that offer. this is— other health unions accepted that offer. this is gb news more tran— that offer. this is gb news more ttann ne— that offer. this is gb news more from me shortly.— that offer. this is gb news more from me shortly. now, though, it's from me shortly. now, though, tt-e tact— from me shortly. now, though, tt-e tact ta— from me shortly. now, though,
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it's back to patrick erg . it's back to patrick erg. | wow— it's back to patrick erg. | wow tt— it's back to patrick erg. l now it sounds- it's back to patrick erg. i now it sounds like. it's back to patrick erg.- - now it sounds like the it's back to patrick erg. now it sounds like the ultimate it's back to patrick erg. now it so crown ke the ultimate it's back to patrick erg. now it so crown and1e ultimate clash between crown and parliament. well. former spin teeter— parliament. well. former spin tactat ta— parliament. well. former spin doctor to boris— parliament. well. former spin doctor to boris johnson- 37�*6�*1 �*tftttigi former spin doctor to boris johnson says tnat— doctor to boris johnson says tnattne— doctor to boris johnson says that the then— doctor to boris johnson says that the then pm squared up to ttng— that the then pm squared up to ttng cnattee— that the then pm squared up to king charles after— that the then pm squared up to king charles after he criticised the king charles after he criticised tne twanta— king charles after he criticised the rwanda refugee plan at the commonwealth— the rwanda refugee plan at the commonwealth summit in 2022. but why— commonwealth summit in 2022. but why tt— commonwealth summit in 2022. nwt why ts ttn— commonwealth summit in 2022. but why is this only— commonwealth summit in 2022. but why is this only coming- commonwealth summit in 2022. but why is this only coming to light now? well number ten's former director of communications guitar harry says that boris, when eating quite hard against the then prince of wales , boris responded and wales, boris responded and disputed his long standing allies account as inaccurate, with a source saying he deplores any commentary on conversations with the royals . and if it with the royals. and if it couldn't get any feistier. mr harry says that the meeting was less amicable, claiming that the pair clashed over the royals views on slavery too. well, a huge barge is set to house
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all sides of the debate. and it's been reported that portland port has reported moved its cruise ship schedule from its website in a bid to deter far right protests. so i mean, this is really causing controversy from all angles because a lot of people who are on the left or the old human rights brigade, they're sort of saying this is inhumane we can't put people inhumane and we can't put people on like this. then on a barge like this. then you've local residents and you've got a local residents and business and politicians business owners and politicians who saying, don't who are saying, we just don't really this in our area really want this in our area because be bad. the because it might be bad. the tories got tories them, then you have got people the right or dare people towards the right or dare i far right i say, even far right who are just angry this for just very angry about this for the obvious reasons. and so no one's happy. they? one's really happy. are they? then numbers of then you look at the numbers of it, 500, 500 people. well, this is in ocean, quite is a drop in the ocean, quite literally, because we have around that arriving some around that arriving on some days to days every day. with me now to talk about latest on this is talk about the latest on this is catherine political catherine foster, our political reporter catherine, it's arriving, bit of a arriving, but it's a bit of a mess. it is, because basically wherever you try to put these people, not wanted. people, they're not wanted. this is the fundamental problem . sa— this is the fundamental problem . sa tt— this is the fundamental problem . so it arrived— this is the fundamental problem . so it arrived about 8:00 in tatnawtn— . so it arrived about 8:00 in falmouth this— . so it arrived about 8:00 in falmouth this morning. it's going— falmouth this morning. it's gatng ta— falmouth this morning. it's going to several weeks. going to spend several weeks. it's going to spend several weeks. tt-e—awet— going to spend several weeks.i it's—over-italy. it's been towed over from italy.
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tt-e— it's been towed over from italy. tt-e ptewtawetw— it's been towed over from italy. it's previously been used to nause— it's previously been used to house asylum _ it's previously been used to house asylum seekers. it's awnenttw— house asylum seekers. it's awnenttw gat— house asylum seekers. it's currently got 220 en suite rooms , a gym,— currently got 220 en suite rooms , a gym, etaeteta— currently got 220 en suite rooms , a gym, etcetera. it's going to be rented— , a gym, etcetera. it's going to be refitted to— , a gym, etcetera. it's going to be refitted to house 500. the name— be refitted to house 500. the name etttae— be refitted to house 500. the home office says— be refitted to house 500. the home office says it's going to provide— home office says it's going to provide tate— home office says it's going to provide base sick— home office says it's going to provide base sick and functional accommodation— provide base sick and functional accommodation ,_ provide base sick and functional accommodation , including accommodation, including aatettng— accommodation, including catenng, za— accommodation, including catering, 24 hour security, neattn— catering, 24 hour security, health care— catering, 24 hour security, health care ,_ catering, 24 hour security, health care , etcetera. but health care, etcetera. but atteatw— health care, etcetera. but atteatw tne— health care, etcetera. but already the locals are up in tne— already the locals are up in arms. the conservative lviv mp in arms. the conservative lviv mp tn danet— arms. the conservative lviv mp tn eateet .— arms. the conservative lviv mp in dorset , where— arms. the conservative lviv mp in dorset , where it's going to in dorset, where it's going to te— in dorset, where it's going to we gatng— in dorset, where it's going to we gatng ta— in dorset, where it's going to we gatng to te— in dorset, where it's going to it's going to be based just off the it's going to be based just off tne coast— it's going to be based just off tne aaaet at— it's going to be based just off the coast of weymouth in tantant— the coast of weymouth in portland bay— the coast of weymouth in portland bay is saying that he's concerned that— portland bay is saying that he's concerned that it— portland bay is saying that he's concerned that it will be in ntaee— concerned that it will be in gtaae tat— concerned that it will be in place for years— concerned that it will be in place for years to come . the place for years to come. the name— place for years to come. the name etttee— place for years to come. the home office is— place for years to come. the home office is saying 18 months is home office is saying 18 months te tnett— home office is saying 18 months is their working— home office is saying 18 months is their working assumption . the is their working assumption. the teatet— is their working assumption. the teatet at— is their working assumption. the teatet at we— is their working assumption. the leader of the local— is their working assumption. the leader of the local council , leader of the local council, wna-e— leader of the local council, was atta— leader of the local council, who's also conservative, is eawtng— who's also conservative, is eawtng tnat— who's also conservative, is saying that they have severe g...— saying that they have severe teat wan— saying that they have severe fear, you know,— saying that they have severe fear, you know, serious reservation— fear, you know, serious reservation issues. so and this is reservation issues. so and this te tne— reservation issues. so and this is the problem.— reservation issues. so and this is the problem. nobody wants tneee— is the problem. nobody wants tneee peagte— is the problem. nobody wants these people in— is the problem. nobody wants these people in their own back watt.— these people in their own back watt. nat— these people in their own back want. eat me— these people in their own back yard. but the government is desperate— yard. but the government is desperate ta— yard. but the government is desperate to get the £6 million
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a taw— desperate to get the £6 million a day tetng— desperate to get the £6 million a day being spent— desperate to get the £6 million a day being spent with something like a day being spent with something ttte soeoo— a day being spent with something like 50,000 asylum seekers in notes— like 50,000 asylum seekers in notes te— like 50,000 asylum seekers in hotels is really— like 50,000 asylum seekers in hotels is really keen to get tnaee— hotels is really keen to get those costs— hotels is really keen to get those costs down. and ultimately to act— those costs down. and ultimately to act as— those costs down. and ultimately to act as a— those costs down. and ultimately to act as a deterrent. because if to act as a deterrent. because tt wan-te— to act as a deterrent. because if you're coming— to act as a deterrent. because if you're coming across thinking wan-te— if you're coming across thinking wan-e gatng— if you're coming across thinking wante gatng ta— if you're coming across thinking you're going to be— if you're coming across thinking you're going to be in a quite nae— you're going to be in a quite tant— you're going to be in a quite nice hotel, be— you're going to be in a quite nice hotel, be free to come and go nice hotel, be free to come and ga tat— nice hotel, be free to come and ga tat a— nice hotel, be free to come and ga tan a ttttte— nice hotel, be free to come and go for a little bit— nice hotel, be free to come and go for a little bit different taa. — go for a little bit different taa. wante— go for a little bit different too. you're going to be stuck on a tange— too. you're going to be stuck on a tatge att— too. you're going to be stuck on a barge off the— too. you're going to be stuck on a barge off the coast with tatttw— a barge off the coast with fairly accommodation in fairly basic accommodation in go,— fairly basic accommodation in no, absolutely. _ fairly basic accommodation in no, absolutely. ' t: i no, absolutely. and so like i was this really was saying before, this really isn't pleasing anybody. isn't kind of pleasing anybody. but is arriving . it is but the barge is arriving. it is now much in uk waters . and now very much in uk waters. and obviously we will be tracking its eventually its movements as it eventually gets dorset area and it's gets to the dorset area and it's undergoing a couple of renovations as far as we're aware as well. but you're right, saying every single place i mean, the wirral mooted to mean, the wirral was mooted to be couple of these be having a couple of these things their mps there who things and their mps there who are labour are against it. are labour are dead against it. they're they're against they're saying they're against it because of human rights it because of the human rights issues. the people around the dorset area are saying, well actually, kind actually, you know, we're kind of tourism of against it because of tourism and safety, so and public safety, etcetera. so no matter which side of the political spectrum you're on, then big then nobody's happy. but the big question this,
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question for me about all this, catherine, it houses catherine, is if it houses 500 single men and at the same time that we're not deporting anyone or having any other kind of massive processing , i massive upsurge in processing, i mean, this just doesn't really appear like it's going to work. really. we're to need really. we're going to need a channel barges. well you channel full of barges. well you could across it. it's could walk across it. it's a very , very small- could walk across it. it's a very , very small part- i: i . it's a very , very small part of the very, very small part of the wnate— very, very small part of the wnate twan— very, very small part of the whole plan, isn't it? which of course, includes— whole plan, isn't it? which of course, includes rwanda. now, if the course, includes rwanda. now, if tne gawetnnent— course, includes rwanda. now, if the government wins the latest tegat— the government wins the latest legal challenge— the government wins the latest legal challenge that's been going— legal challenge that's been gatng taat— legal challenge that's been going back and— legal challenge that's been going back and forth hasn't it, for going back and forth hasn't it, tat a— going back and forth hasn't it, tat a weat— going back and forth hasn't it, tan a weat tn— going back and forth hasn't it, for a year in the— going back and forth hasn't it, for a year in the courts, tnewte— for a year in the courts, they're hopeful that come the antnnnn — they're hopeful that come the antnnnn tnew— they're hopeful that come the autumn they will be able to send aeante— autumn they will be able to send people ant— autumn they will be able to send people ant ta— autumn they will be able to send people out to the— autumn they will be able to send people out to the illegal ntgtattan— people out to the illegal migration-has- people out to the illegal migration has gone through migration bill. has gone through the migration bill. has gone through tne—waw— migration bill. has gone through tne—waw tt-a- migration bill. has gone through the—now it's in- migration bill. has gone through the—now it's in the. the commons. now it's in the tatta. — the commons. now it's in the tatta. tnewte— the commons. now it's in the lords. they're going to face a nnge— lords. they're going to face a nnge attnggte— lords. they're going to face a huge struggle in— lords. they're going to face a huge struggle in lords to huge struggle in the lords to getltntangn— huge struggle in the lords to getlthrough, but- huge struggle in the lords to get through, but they're get it through, but they're tntnttng— get it through, but they're thinking-the. get it through, but they're - thinking-the autumn thinking that come the autumn tnew— thinking that come the autumn tnew-te— thinking that come the autumn tnew-te atte— thinking that come the autumn they-be able to- thinking that come the autumn they be able to put people they may be able to put people to they may be able to put people taltttgnte— they may be able to put people taltttgnte ta— they may be able to put people to flights to rwanda. they to on flights to rwanda. they may— to on flights to rwanda. they nay-ta— to on flights to rwanda. they nay-ta tne- to on flights to rwanda. they may to the illegal may be able to the illegal ntgtattan— may be able to the illegal migration bill— may be able to the illegal migration bill may be law and at tnat— migration bill may be law and at tnat pant,— migration bill may be law and at that point, when— migration bill may be law and at that point, when people are aatnattw— that point, when people are actually being— that point, when people are actually being deported on a one way— actually being deported on a one way ttatet— actually being deported on a one way ggg, tne — actually being deported on a one way ticket, the hope is then tnat— way ticket, the hope is then tnat tne — way ticket, the hope is then that the people _ way ticket, the hope is then that the people coming across wtt— that the people coming across wttt teatte— that the people coming across will decide not— that the people coming across will decide not to— that the people coming across will decide not to bother. antenna.— will decide not to bother. catherine, thank-
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will decide not to bother. catherine, thank you - will decide not to bother. catherine, thank you very much. that's forster that's catherine forster political reporter. i want you to initially by that to start today initially by that news line that boris johnson has reportedly squared news line that boris johnson has repto edly squared news line that boris johnson has repto edlythen squared news line that boris johnson has repto edlythen prince squared news line that boris johnson has repto edlythen prince charles, up to the then prince charles, now charles, was in now king charles, who was in bofis now king charles, who was in boris johnson's view, was get involved with the politics of a democratically elected government in a way that any monarch or future monarch should not is not supposed to do. supposedly, king charles called the rwanda scheme awful. that report appeared on report that appeared on newspaper front pages was not categorically denied or asked to be removed by the palace, which again johnson, again led boris johnson, according reports , to think according to reports, to think that it must have been true, there supposedly back there was supposedly some back and this where he was and forth on this where he was saying, don't saying, look, don't please don't get involved in government policy. asking you policy. i have been asking you whether or not you are team charles or team boris on this. again, poll that's again, that poll that's available twitter is now available on our twitter is now up to 66.9% of thinking that up to 66.9% of you thinking that your but is your team. boris. but this is about the illegal migration so we've that we've the we've got that we've got the bibi arriving and the bibi stockholm arriving and the 500 single males who are going to be put on that boat. but there are some other immigration figures that i wanted to lead in
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with today top, as well with today at the top, as well as kind of immigration as some kind of immigration package. this is this is package. really, this is this is the immigration the legal stuff. so immigration experts are now saying net experts are now saying that net migration , these figures are migration, these figures are officially published officially due to be published a little later this month. little bit later this month. but they've bit of a they've given us a bit of a heads up. could hit a record high of 675,000. that, for what it's worth , is double the pre it's worth, is double the pre brexit peak of 331,008 years ago . experts have suggested that a steep rise in foreign students and humanitarian visas may explain the potential record high for 2023. now i'm a little bit sceptical of this because obviously the latest figures the year before also included humanitarian visas and we've seen in ukraine, we've seen afghanistan, kong and i get afghanistan, hong kong and i get that numbers still that those numbers are still going high, but going to be relatively high, but one assumed that one would have assumed that maybe bulk maybe we've taken the bulk of those people already had those people or already had those people or already had those visas there. the student visas, we've a visas, again, we've always had a high influx of foreign students, haven't huge number of haven't we? a huge number of them. so what's happening, if anything, mean those anything, to mean that those foreign students are now arriving the of
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arriving by the hundreds of thousands not thousands more? again, i'm not convinced that that really is the case. the overarching question here, think of question here, i think one of them is if you did them anyway, is if you did vote for brexit, this what for brexit, is this really what you i suspect not. if for brexit, is this really what ywas i suspect not. if for brexit, is this really what ywas sitting i suspect not. if for brexit, is this really what ywas sitting here uspect not. if for brexit, is this really what ywas sitting here howevertt. if for brexit, is this really what ywas sitting here however many i was sitting here however many years ago, it was now and saying to you that now of 2023, you to you that now as of 2023, you were going looking at net were going to be looking at net migration that were more migration figures that were more than the pre peak than double the pre brexit peak of 331,000. i well, maybe you wouldn't have believed me. gb views or gbnews.uk. but joining me now is researcher at migrationwatch it's jeremy migrationwatch uk. it's jeremy hutton. jeremy, thank very hutton. jeremy, thank you very much for joining hutton. jeremy, thank you very much forjoining us. look, do you buy the idea that this huge influx in net migration is down to humanity and visas and students ? it's certainly students? it's certainly a taatat— students? it's certainly a taatat at— students? it's certainly a factor of it— 3“ it's certainly a factor of it because the number of factor of it because the number at atntente— factor of it because the number of students coming in has risen gntte— of students coming in has risen gntte a— of students coming in has risen gntte a tat— of students coming in has risen gntte a tat tn— of students coming in has risen quite a lot in the— of students coming in has risen quite a lot in the past few wean. — quite a lot in the past few wean. ant— quite a lot in the past few years. . quite a lot in the past few- years. and similarly, last year in particular between ukrainians and people from hong kong and a few others, we did allow in a lot of people via humanitarian routes, which completely debunked people who said there's no safe and legal route by the
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way, also we've also way, but we're also we've also got massive work related immigration, a massive proportion of the people coming into the country for example, are now care workers, which requires no real qualifications, very little work experience , and very little work experience, and get them, you know, just by putting in a few applications and hoping for the best, really. so working migration we expect is going to be very high. but the or sorry, the most important or sorry, the most egregious the most egregious points of the immigration levels will be dependence. a lot of these students will bringing family students will be bringing family members them. of members with them. a lot of these workers will. a lot of these workers will. a lot of these people coming on humanity schemes come for a few more schemes will come for a few more years down the line. they might bnngin years down the line. they might bring in an ailing parent from another well. so the another country as well. so the numbers keep numbers are just going to keep rising and rising numbers are just going to keep risingthey've and rising numbers are just going to keep risingthey've actually rising numbers are just going to keep risingthey've actually does until they've actually does something and in something to stop it. and in recent years, there's been no interest government do interest from government to do that. what jeremy, people will be at now and be looking at this now and they'll well, these numbers they'll go, well, these numbers are okay because clearly we are attracting doctors, nurses and high skilled people to come and help our economy . and that, i
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help our economy. and that, i tttnt— help our economy. and that, i tntnt, mates— help our economy. and that, i think, makes it— help our economy. and that, i think, makes it quite- . i and that, i think, makes it quite palatable to think, makes it quite palatable ta aeante— think, makes it quite palatable ta people ta— think, makes it quite palatable to people to think that we've got— to people to think that we've gat a— to people to think that we've gat a ntgn— to people to think that we've got a high influx— to people to think that we've got a high influx of migration, attttet— got a high influx of migration, skilled migration , torfaen that skilled migration, torfaen that can skilled migration, torfaen that nett— skilled migration, torfaen that help gnaw— skilled migration, torfaen that can help grow our economy. is tnat— can help grow our economy. is tnat ttne— can help grow our economy. is tnat ttne a— can help grow our economy. is tnat ttne a te— can help grow our economy. is that true 7 is that— can help grow our economy. is that true ? is that what we are that true? is that what we are going— that true? is that what we are gatng ta— that true? is that what we are gatng ta ee— that true? is that what we are gatng ta tn— that true? is that what we are going to see in these numbers? swe— going to see in these numbers? snte — going to see in these numbers? snte sane— going to see in these numbers? snte same at— going to see in these numbers? sure some of the— going to see in these numbers? sure i.tit“ g sure some of the people coming into the uk are skilled workers and they might be fulfilling roles that currently businesses are struggling to fill. however, you've also got, like i said, care workers. you've got journalists, you've got artists . it's the skilled shortage list allows for a very wide group of occupations , not all of which occupations, not all of which are necessarily high skilled. when people say skilled workers , they kind of think, you know, doctors, they think architects, they engineers. but now they think engineers. but now you've got carpenters and plasterers on the list and things like that, which, sure, they're you don't they're skilled, but you don't require the same level of competition to fill those those roles . we should be filling roles. we should be filling those jobs , that labour those jobs, that labour requirement the uk requirement from the uk workforce. but what i don't understand, jeremy and i haven't been able understand for been able to understand for
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quite time is that we can quite some time is that we can see these numbers arriving and we see number people we can see the number of people who claiming asylum. we can who are claiming asylum. we can see of people who are claiming asylum. we can see—of people coming| see the number of people coming across-channel. _ see the number of people coming across-channel. and- see the number of people coming across channel. and these see the number of people coming acr(two channel. and these see the number of people coming acr(two verytannel. and these see the number of people coming acr(two very differentnd these see the number of people coming acr(two very different things. e are two very different things. wan-we— are two very different things. wan-we-net- are two very different things. you've net migration you've got the net migration ttgntea— figures, which we're talking atant— figures, which we're talking atant naw— figures, which we're talking about now, are— figures, which we're talking about now, are legal, and then wane— you've got people coming across the you've got people coming across g..._,_ you've got people coming across g.._, tant- you've got people coming across g.._, tnt we- the channel illegal, but we tan-t— the channel illegal, but we tan-t-anneat- the channel illegal, but we- don't-appear-the don't really appear to have the room - anyone do - don't really appear to have the room anyone do we? how room to put anyone do we? how we wttn— room to put anyone do we? how we wttn an— room to put anyone do we? how can we with our facilities? i'm tatttng— can we with our facilities? i'm tatttng atant— can we with our facilities? i'm talking about the _ can we with our facilities? i'm talking about the nhs later and ans— talking about the nhs later and ans te— talking about the nhs later and ans ta nawtng— talking about the nhs later and gps is having a— talking about the nhs later and gps is having a massive waiting tat.— gps is having a massive waiting ttat. t— gps is having a massive waiting ttat. t atten— gps is having a massive waiting list. i often talk— gps is having a massive waiting list. i often talk about the aanaata— list. i often talk about the schools issues.— list. i often talk about the schools issues. i often talk atant— schools issues. i often talk atant tne— schools issues. i often talk about the housing crisis, for example-— about the housing crisis, for example-little. about the housing crisis, for example. little bit example. in fact, a little bit tater—ttn- example. in fact, a little bit tater—tn gatng| example. in fact, a little bit. later—i'm going to later on, jeremy, i'm going to be later on, jeremy, i'm going to te—taat- later on, jeremy, i'm going to| te—taat tnat be talking about the fact that moane— be talking about the fact that 700,000 _their| 700,000 people missed their nangage— 700,000 people missed their nangage at— 700,000 people missed their mortgage or rental repayments this mortgage or rental repayments tnta nantn— mortgage or rental repayments tnta nantn .— mortgage or rental repayments this month . and— mortgage or rental repayments this month . and in no small part this month. and in no small part is this month. and in no small part ta tnat— this month. and in no small part ta ta tawn— this month. and in no small part is that down-us— this month. and in no small part is that down-us-of- is that down to us cost of ttwtng— is that down to us cost of living crisis. _ is that down to us cost of living crisis. but also because tnete— living crisis. but also because there-shortage- living crisis. but also because there-shortage of. there is such a shortage of nanatng,— there is such a shortage of nanatng,-aan- there is such a shortage of housing, can absolutely housing, people can absolutely taat— housing, people can absolutely taat tne— housing, people can absolutely taat tne anaes— housing, people can absolutely jack the prices up— housing, people can absolutely jack the prices up and people ent— jack the prices up and people ent nn— jack the prices up and people ent nn wttn— jack the prices up and people end up with their going up end up with their rent going up by end up with their rent going up tw ao— end up with their rent going up tw ao att— end up with their rent going up tw ea add %_ end up with their rent going up tw ea add % at— end up with their rent going up by 60 odd % or 70— end up with their rent going up by 60 odd % or 70 odd% and we by 60 odd% or 70 odd% and we aent— by 60 odd% or 70 odd% and we aen-t .— by 60 odd% or 70 odd% and we aen-t , t— by 60 odd% or 70 odd% and we aen-t t tan-t— by 60 odd% or 70 odd% and we aren't , i don't think aren't, i don't think as a aannttw— aren't, i don't think as a country able— aren't, i don't think as a country able to- aren't, i don't think as a country able to deal with this annannt— country able to deal with this annannt at— country able to deal with this amount of people , are we? \tit amount of people, are we? no, i tttnt— amount of people, are we? no, i tttnt ant— amount of people, are we? no, i tttnt ant at— amount of people, are we? no, i think out of all— amount of people, are we? no, i think out of all those things you mentioned, which are all absolutely terrific points out
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to me, the housing crisis is the most important. it's the one greatest that's stopping greatest thing that's stopping people from getting ahead in life leading, i life and actually leading, i imagine, lot of british, imagine, to a lot of british, british emigrating british people emigrating themselves up on themselves and just giving up on themselves and just giving up on the because at the moment the the uk because at the moment the country doesn't seem like a very prosperous some prosperous place. i mean, some people saying that maybe people are saying that maybe immigration will start falling because isn't governing because the uk isn't governing itself very well because of these these pressures are these these pressures that are put by immigration . so like put on by immigration. so like you we do seem to be at you say, we do seem to be at capacity. we're the most crowded country in europe. well, england is ahead of the is at least ahead of the netherlands, ahead france , netherlands, ahead of france, ahead it's hard ahead of germany. and it's hard to say how much more the uk can take because we do seem to be reaching an inflexion point where we're going to have to tackle and all tackle this once and for all and actually stop relying on immigration for all these labour needs. yeah, is a really needs. yeah, it is a really tnatw— needs. yeah, it is a really tnatw ane— : yeah, it is a really tricky one. jeremy, thank you wetw— tricky one. jeremy, thank you wetw nnan.— tricky one. jeremy, thank you very much..ever. - tricky one. jeremy, thank you very much. ever. jeremy very much. as ever. jeremy nntaan— very much. as ever. jeremy nntaan-a- very much. as ever. jeremy hudson a researcher very much. as ever. jeremy- hudson-a researcher at hudson there is a researcher at wtgtattan—t- hudson there is a researcher at migration i wanted to migration watch uk. i wanted to just migration watch uk. i wanted to ttne—at- just group together a few of tnaee— just group together a few of those stories— just group together a few of those stories initially those stories there. initially tne— those stories there. initially tne-jannaan- those stories there. initially the-johnson the the old boris johnson versus the ten— the old boris johnson versus the ten tnnae— the old boris johnson versus the then prince charles— the old boris johnson versus the then prince charles row, which the old boris johnson versus the ther supposedly iles row, which the old boris johnson versus the ther supposedly about w, which the old boris johnson versus the ther supposedly about nowhich the old boris johnson versus the thersupposedly about now king was supposedly about now king
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anattea— was supposedly about now king anattee eawtng— was supposedly about now king charles saying that the rwanda eaenen— charles saying that the rwanda scheme was appalling. boris getttng— scheme was appalling. borisi getttng—atant getting very worked up about tnat— getting very worked up about tnat. ttne— getting very worked up about tnat. ttte t— getting very worked up about that. like i said,— getting very worked up about that. like i said, i've been aettng— that. like i said, i've been aettng wan— that. like i said, i've been asking you whose you're on asking you whose side you're on wnen— asking you whose side you're on wnen-ta— asking you whose side you're on wnen-ta tnat- asking you whose side you're on when _to that-butj when it comes to that stuff. but wnttet—te— when it comes to that stuff. but whilst is unfolding, whilst all of this is unfolding, we-we-gat— whilst all of this is unfolding, we've-got this- whilst all of this is unfolding, we've got this bibi we've also got this bibi stockholm _ we've also got this bibi stockholm barge arriving and nntetgatng— stockholm barge arriving and undergoinglbit_ stockholm barge arriving and undergoing bit of maintenance undergoing a bit of maintenance tetan— undergoing a bit of maintenance tetate—soo- undergoing a bit of maintenance before—500 single. before then, around 500 single men can come on— before then, around 500 single men can come on that is men can come on it. that is annt— men can come on it. that is ant tne— men can come on it. that is around the-that- men can come on it. that is around the that arrive around the number that arrive wetw— around the number that arrive wetw atten— around the number that arrive wetw atten .— around the number that arrive wetw atten . t— around the number that arrive very often . i sit— around the number that arrive very often . i sit here and very often. i sit here and tenant— very often. i sit here and report about— very often. i sit here and report about 500 people arriving in report about 500 people arriving tnlatngte— report about 500 people arriving inlsingle-that's- report about 500 people arriving in single that's the in a single day. so that's the mega— in a single day. so that's the. tttegat—taat illegal stuff. and then you look at-tegat— illegal stuff. and then you look at-tegat-aa— illegal stuff. and then you look at-legal-as well. - illegal stuff. and then you look at legal as well. and at the legal stuff as well. and tnat— at the legal stuff as well. and tnat nnnnett— at the legal stuff as well. and that number there could well is ntettatet— that number there could well is atettatet ta— that number there could well is predicted to hit— that number there could well is predicted to hit higher double tnan—l predicted to hit higher double tnan—. sa| than the pre brexit peak. so aannt— than the pre brexit peak. so round about— than the pre brexit peak. so round about 675,000 people atttwtng— round about 675,000 people antwtng tn— round about 675,000 people antwtng tn a— round about 675,000 people arriving in a single year. and tnat— arriving in a single year. and tnet tttttng— arriving in a single year. and tnet tttttng tn— arriving in a single year. and just filling in from what jeremy was just filling in from what jeremy aawtng— just filling in from what jeremy was saying there,— just filling in from what jeremy was saying there, do you feel as tnangn— was saying there, do you feel as tnangn we— was saying there, do you feel as tnangn we ae— was saying there, do you feel as though we are at— was saying there, do you feel as though we are at breaking point or though we are at breaking point at nata— though we are at breaking point or not? because— though we are at breaking point or not? because some people wante— or not? because some people want-wett— or not? because some people would-well,.need- or not? because some people would well, need these would say, well, we need these peante— would say, well, we need these peante-ant— would say, well, we need these people our economy and people to grow our economy and we-neet— people to grow our economy and we-neet ta— people to grow our economy and we-neet ta get— people to grow our economy and we-need to get our- we just need to get our backsides_ we just need to get our backsides in- we just need to get our backsides in gear. could we just need to get our- backsides in gear.-could cope backsides in gear. we could cope wttn— backsides in gear. we could cope wttn-we— backsides in gear. we could cope wttn-we-at- with this if we updated gp enteneeg— with this if we updated gp surgeries-built- with this if we updated gp- surgeries-built-housing surgeries and built more housing and surgeries and built more housing ant-tne— surgeries and built more housing ant-tnte at— surgeries and built more housing and this or actually and did all of this or actually tnat— and did all of this or actually tnatltt— and did all of this or actually tnatltt taa— and did all of this or actually just-it too much— and did all of this or actually just it too much too fast ? just is it too much too fast? ant— just is it too much too fast? ant wnat— just is it too much too fast? ant wnatlwe— just is it too much too fast? and what-we do- just is it too much too fast? and what we do about that? and what do we do about that? vaiews@gbnews.uk yourself vaiews@gbnews.uk get yourself on-now. you are- vaiews@gbnews.uk get yourself on now. you are with on the telly now. you are with ne-annatt-a— on the telly now. you are with me,-christi's on- on the telly now. you are with me, christi's on gb news me, padre christi's on gb news ant— me, padre christi's on gb news
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ant-nn— me, padre christi's on gb news ant-nnlwttt- me, padre christi's on gb news ant-nnlwttt wel and coming up. we will. we ttaanaetng— and coming up. we will. we discussing rishi— and coming up. we will. we discussing rishi sunak's plan to extant— discussing rishi sunak's plan to expand-services- expand pharmacy services and attaw— expand pharmacy services and allow-prescribe- expand pharmacy services and allow prescribe more allow them to prescribe more nettaattane— allow them to prescribe more medications and— allow them to prescribe more medications and perform blood pressure checks. _ medications and perform blood pressure checks. it comes just a day— pressure checks. it comes just a taw-we— pressure checks. it comes just a taw-we were— pressure checks. it comes just a day we were talking about day after we were talking about aeaet— day after we were talking about increased phone— day after we were talking about increased phone technology for gp increased phone technology for at entgetw— increased phone technology for at antgetw .— increased phone technology for at antgetw , ea— increased phone technology for gp surgery , so you should have gp surgery, so you should have to gp surgery, so you should have ta agent— gp surgery, so you should have ta agent teas— gp surgery, so you should have to spend less time— gp surgery, so you should have to spend less time on the phone for to spend less time on the phone tat tne— to spend less time on the phone tat tne at.— to spend less time on the phone for the gp. now— to spend less time on the phone for the gp. now is— to spend less time on the phone for the gp. now is this going to be a— for the gp. now is this going to be a great— for the gp. now is this going to be a great thing— for the gp. now is this going to be a great thing that will cut tawn— be a great thing that will cut tawn tne— be a great thing that will cut down the backlog and get more neante— down the backlog and get more people ttt— down the backlog and get more people ttt ant— down the backlog and get more people fit and healthy, or is it tnat— people fit and healthy, or is it tnet-ntaatet- people fit and healthy, or is it just plaster politics? just sticking plaster politics? ant— just sticking plaster politics? ant-taattng- just sticking plaster politics? and-lookinglal and we're just looking at a gntat— and we're just looking at a gntatlnete— and we're just looking at a quick-here on- and we're just looking at a quick here on something that quick fix here on something that nnenee— quick fix here on something that nnenawnwa— quick fix here on something that pushewhy? because that £240 road. why? because that £240 nttttan— road. why? because that £240 nttttan tnat— road. why? because that £240 million that we're— road. why? because that £240 million that we're supposedly anenttng— million that we're supposedly agenttng ta— million that we're supposedly agenttng ta get— million that we're supposedly spending to get better services for spending to get better services tat ans— spending to get better services for gps practises,— spending to get better services for gps practises, could that nat— for gps practises, could that nat te— for gps practises, could that nat te agent— for gps practises, could that not be spent paying more wages for not be spent paying more wages tat naae— not be spent paying more wages tat ans— not be spent paying more wages for more gps ?_ not be spent paying more wages for more gps ? get— not be spent paying more wages for more gps ? get your views for more gps? get your views aantng— for more gps? get your views aantng tn— for more gps? get your views coming in gbviews@gbnews.uk tatnat— coming in gbviews@gbnews.uk patrick christys— coming in gbviews@gbnews.uk patrick christys fryston news
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can it out of there. can drag it out of there. the prime minister been prime minister has been defending to defending his new plan for to free 7 million gp free up around 7 million gp appointments a year by allowing people seek treatment for people to seek treatment for common at pharmacies. common conditions at pharmacies. the initiative costing £645 million, would expand pharmacy services to also allow them to prescribe more medications and perform blood pressure checks. speaking a little earlier on, rishi sunak expressed his his hope that the action would help reduce pressure on gp services . reduce pressure on gp services. well, one of my five priorities is well, one of my five priorities ta antttng— well, one of my five priorities is cutting waiting— well, one of my five priorities is cutting waiting list and tataw-e— is cutting waiting list and today's announcement is getting on today's announcement is getting an wttn— today's announcement is getting an wttn tnat. — today's announcement is getting on with that. and— today's announcement is getting on with that. 't: e today's announcement is getting on with that. ' t: e on with that. and it's about primary care expanding access to services that people can get from their pharmacy , but also from their pharmacy, but also investing in general practises and surgeries to end the at a scramble. and when it comes to pharmacies, what we are doing is providing with money pharmacies, what we are doing is prcthattg with money pharmacies, what we are doing is prcthat people with money pharmacies, what we are doing is prcthat people can�*t money pharmacies, what we are doing is prcthat people can go money pharmacies, what we are doing is prcthat people can go to money pharmacies, what we are doing is prcthat people can go to their ey so that people can go to their pharmacy medicines for pharmacy and get medicines for common ailments like earaches, sore throats, throat infections. those kinds of things that people will be able to practically go to their pharmacies for, save them a
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visit or a call to the gp because everyone loves their pharmacies. firsthand pharmacies. i know firsthand growing up what difference growing up what a difference they people's lives and they make to people's lives and it's backing it's right that we're backing them it them to do more. okay, so it does come after us. rishi sunak was does come after us. rishi sunak attnttng— does come after us. rishi sunak was alluding to— does come after us. rishi sunak was alluding to there— : i ii rishi sunak was alluding to there this announcement- was alluding to there this announcement that is going to be aannt— announcement that is going to be aannt a— announcement that is going to be aannt a tate— announcement that is going to be around a £240 million bit of tnnttng— around a £240 million bit of tnnttng ta— around a £240 million bit of funding to help— around a £240 million bit of funding to help gps surgeries wttn— funding to help gps surgeries wttn-nnane— funding to help gps surgeries with-phone lines- funding to help gps surgeries with phone lines and up to with more phone lines and up to tate— with more phone lines and up to date technology. _ with more phone lines and up to date technology. so the theory is date technology. so the theory ta tnat— date technology. so the theory ta ta tt— date technology. so the theory ta ta tt wan— date technology. so the theory is that if you call— date technology. so the theory is that if you call at 8 am. wnen— is that if you call at 8 am. wnen nast— is that if you call at 8 am. when most of— is that if you call at 8 am. when most of them open, instead of when most of them open, instead at-natt— when most of them open, instead at-nattltne- when most of them open, instead of-hold.the phone. of sitting on hold on the phone for-sometimes- of sitting on hold on the phone for sometimes you'll get for hours, sometimes you'll get a aatt— for hours, sometimes you'll get a aatt taat. — for hours, sometimes you'll get a call back. you'll— for hours, sometimes you'll get a call back. you'll then have a conversation— a call back. you'll then have a conversation with— a call back. you'll then have a conversation with a receptionist wna— conversation with a receptionist wna wtt— conversation with a receptionist who will receive— conversation with a receptionist who will receive increased ttatntng. — who will receive increased ttatntng. sa— who will receive increased training. so they will ask you a bit training. so they will ask you a ttt-tetatt— training. so they will ask you a bit-detail-yourselfl training. so they will ask you a bit detail yourself , bit more detail about yourself, ant— bit more detail about yourself, ant-tnew— bit more detail about yourself, ant-tnew aan— bit more detail about yourself, and they can maybe guide and then they can maybe guide you and then they can maybe guide wan ta— and then they can maybe guide you tolpharmacist_ and then they can maybe guide you to pharmacist as opposed you to a pharmacist as opposed to you to a pharmacist as opposed ta-ta— you to a pharmacist as opposed ta-ta ga— you to a pharmacist as opposed ta-ta ga ta— you to a pharmacist as opposed ta-ta ga ta ee- you to a pharmacist as opposed to-to go to see a- you to a pharmacist as opposed to to go to see a gp to to having to go to see a gp to get— to having to go to see a gp to get a— to having to go to see a gp to get a prescription— to having to go to see a gp to get a prescription for something. - get a prescription for something. pharmacist something. that said, pharmacist can something. that said, pharmacist aan—grant— something. that said, pharmacist can_grand total- something. that said, pharmacist can—grand total of. can do. and the grand total of tnn— can do. and the grand total of tntalneattw— can do. and the grand total of this nearly around £1 this is nearly around £1 tttttan— this is nearly around £1 billion. joining us now with the tateat— billion. joining us now with the tateet an— billion. joining us now with the latest on this— billion. joining us now with the latest on this is— billion. joining us now with the latest on this is gb news nattttaat— latest on this is gb news political reporter. it's olivia nttew— political reporter. it's olivia nttew onwa— political reporter. it's olivia utley olivia ,_ political reporter. it's olivia utley olivia , thank you very utley olivia, thank you very nnan. — utley olivia, thank you very nnan. te— utley olivia, thank you very much. is this— utley olivia, thank you very much. is this sticking plaster nattatee— much. is this sticking plaster nattatea at— much. is this sticking plaster policies or will— much. is this sticking plaster policies or will this genuinely mate— policies or will this genuinely mate a— policies or will this genuinely mate a teat— policies or will this genuinely
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make a real difference ? well, on make a real difference? well, on the make a real difference? well, on tne taae— make a real difference? well, on tne taae at— make a real difference? well, on tne taae at t— make a real difference? well, on the face of it, it— make a real difference? well, on the face of it, it sounds like gntte— the face of it, it sounds like gntte a— the face of it, it sounds like quite a sensible— the face of it, it sounds like quite a sensible plan. . i: quite a sensible plan. it could taae— quite a sensible plan. it could ttee up— quite a sensible plan. it could ttee up ta— quite a sensible plan. it could free up to 30,000 gp appointments a day for those people who really, really need them. the issue is it is a proposal which has been talked about before and has always been shelved at last minute for shelved at the last minute for a number reasons. one of them number of reasons. one of them is that pharmacies in the uk have closing at a have actually been closing at a record rate over the last seven years. we've lost 700 community pharmacies. so there is a question in the air over whether pharmacies actually have the capacity or the staff to deal with the massive uptick in footfall that they can expect to see after this announcement comes to fruition later in the yeah comes to fruition later in the year. another issue is that traditionally gb news have been the guardians. if you like, of antibiotics and we know that there is a problem already in this country of antibiotic resistance, antibiotics being overprescribed people overprescribed and people becoming immune to that becoming immune to them. that paves for big dangerous paves the way for big dangerous superbugs , which can be major superbugs, which can be major killers. so there is a danger of if pharmacists are allowed to
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prescribe antibiotics as they like for a range of these common conditions , we could see conditions, we could see a problem with oversubscription and superbugs. another problem which the king's health fund has raised today, is that there could be an issue with people going to their pharmacies with what they believe is a common condition a urinary urinary tract infection or an earache , tract infection or an earache, getting these quite straightforward antibiotic picks that the type of antibiotics that the type of antibiotics that pharmacists are allowed to prescribe those not working for prescribe, those not working for whatever reason, because the consultation been perhaps consultation hasn't been perhaps as as it might be with as rigorous as it might be with as rigorous as it might be with a and then those people a gp. and then those people going back the back of the going back to the back of the queue causing of queue and causing more of a problem for gps and, and obviously impacting their own health in the process . yes. so health in the process. yes. so there are definitely some some promising elements to it. there are definitely some some promising elements to it . and promising elements to it. and rishi sunak is obviously at pains to get rid of this scramble which he knows is a is a massive turn off for voters . a massive turn off for voters. but there are certainly a few flies in the ointment. there are . olivia, thank you very much. tnattn— . olivia, thank you very much. that's olivia— . olivia, thank you very much.
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that's olivia olivia— olivia, thank you very much. that's olivia olivia utley. tnete— that's olivia olivia utley. tnete an— that's olivia olivia utley. there gb news- that's olivia olivia utley. there gb news political negate.— there gb news political reporter. and- there gb news political reporter. and i think we've ttenttttet— reporter. and i think we've identified—gapl identified a potential gap in tnn— identified a potential gap in ttt-aeat.- identified a potential gap in this-great. if- identified a potential gap in this great. if you've this on paper. great. if you've got— this on paper. great. if you've gat want— this on paper. great. if you've gat want-ttn— this on paper. great. if you've gat want-t-n-ta- this on paper. great. if you've. got your-i'm-to rattle got your and i'm going to rattle off, got your and i'm going to rattle aft-tne— got your and i'm going to rattle attltne waw— got your and i'm going to rattle off,.the way,-of- off, by the way, some of the aanttttane— off, by the way, some of the conditions _your. off, by the way, some of the. conditions _your local conditions now that your local nnatnaaw— conditions now that your local nnatnaaw-te- conditions now that your local pharmacy be more able to pharmacy should be more able to nteeante— pharmacy should be more able to prescribe—having- prescribe without you having to go prescribe without you having to gela— prescribe without you having to gala-wette- prescribe without you having to gala-we-we gat- go to a gp. so we've got tataate— go to a gp. so we've got earache, utis_ go to a gp. so we've got earache, utis ,- go to a gp. so we've got earache, utis , sore throat, earache, utis, sore throat, atnnattte— earache, utis, sore throat, atnnattte .— earache, utis, sore throat, sinusitis , an— earache, utis, sore throat, sinusitis , an infected insect sinusitis, an infected insect tttea— sinusitis, an infected insect bites, impetigo.— sinusitis, an infected insect bites, impetigo. there we go. so in bites, impetigo. there we go. so tn tneatw— bites, impetigo. there we go. so tn tneatw tt— bites, impetigo. there we go. so tn tneatw, tt wan— bites, impetigo. there we go. so in theory, if you have genuinely got in theory, if you have genuinely gat tnaae— in theory, if you have genuinely got those things— in theory, if you have genuinely got those things and they are tnaae— got those things and they are tnaee tntnga— got those things and they are those things, then you will be atte— those things, then you will be atte ta— those things, then you will be atte ta ga— those things, then you will be able to go and— those things, then you will be able to go and get medication for able to go and get medication tat tnen— able to go and get medication for them quicker— able to go and get medication for them quicker and you won't tate— for them quicker and you won't take nn— for them quicker and you won't take nn a— for them quicker and you won't take nn a at— for them quicker and you won't take up a gp appointments time and take up a gp appointments time ant tnetetate— take up a gp appointments time and therefore that— take up a gp appointments time and therefore that can speed up the and therefore that can speed up tne-ntaaeee. — and therefore that can speed up the-process. but- and therefore that can speed up the process. but the the whole process. but the concern _there i the whole process. but the concern _there ifi the whole process. but the. concern _there if you concern would be there if you do nave— concern would be there if you do nave a— concern would be there if you do nave a-ta— concern would be there if you do have a to appointment have a face to face appointment wttn — have a face to face appointment wttn a— have a face to face appointment wttn a an — have a face to face appointment wttn a an new— have a face to face appointment with a gp, they-say- have a face to face appointment with a gp, they say it with a gp, they might say no. it taate—tnt— with a gp, they might say no. it looks—but it's- looks like a uti, but it's aatnattw— looks like a uti, but it'si actually—more looks like a uti, but it's- actually_more serious actually something more serious and actually something more serious ant—neaet- actually something more serious| and—missed under and that could get missed under this and that could get missed under tnta annent— and that could get missed under this current system. but one tanne— this current system. but one anne-tat- this current system. but one issue _for me- this current system. but one teene-tat ne .- this current system. but one. issue _for me , which issue stood out for me, which your— issue stood out for me, which was your doctor's— issue stood out for me, which was your doctor's receptionist is going— was your doctor's receptionist is going io— was your doctor's receptionist is going to have— was your doctor's receptionist is going to have to ask you more questions— is going to have to ask you more quesiions ani— is going to have to ask you more questions and depending on wiai-s— questions and depending on wiai-s wrong— questions and depending on what's wrong with you, that migiii— what's wrong with you, that might-personal.- what's wrong with you, that might personal. and might be quite personal. and i weni— might be quite personal. and i weni oui— might be quite personal. and i weni oui ani— might be quite personal. and i went out and about earlier on ani— went out and about earlier on iii-peopie- went out and about earlier on iii-peopie io- went out and about earlier on. and-people to .out and spoke to people to find out whether—would- and spoke to people to find out whether would feel whether or not they would feel comioriaiie— whether or not they would feel comfortable to _ whether or not they would feel comfortable to talking a doctor-s— doctor's receptionist about thei— doctor's receptionist about their-intimate-
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doctor's receptionist about their intimate problems. their most intimate problems. i-m — their most intimate problems. i-m reaiiy— their most intimate problems. i-m reaiiy noi— their most intimate problems. i'm really not bothered. i'm quite— i'm really not bothered. i'm quiie open— i'm really not bothered. i'm quite open about— i'm really not bothered. i'm quite open about stuff like that. so yeah, i guess i'm there to that. so yeah, i guess i'm there io gei— that. so yeah, i guess i'm there io gei ieiiei. — that. so yeah, i guess i'm there to get better. so— that. so yeah, i guess i'm there to get better. so as— so yeah, i guess i'm there to get better. iiti’ig c to get better. so as long as it leads to me getting better, then i don't care. doctor i don't care. and my doctor surgery of already surgery actually kind of already does and it but does this a bit and it is, but it is awkward saying to a receptionist what receptionist exactly what you need for. um , i need the appointment for. um, i don't know . personally,- need the appointment for. um, i don't know . personally, i- : um, i don't know . personally, i would don't know. personally, i would be okay— don't know. personally, i would be okay wiiii— don't know. personally, i would be okay with it— don't know. personally, i would be okay with it because i'm kind of used— be okay with it because i'm kind of used io— be okay with it because i'm kind of used io ii— be okay with it because i'm kind of used to it anyway, but i can how— of used to it anyway, but i can how peopie— of used to it anyway, but i can see how people would find that quie— see how people would find that quite uncomfortable and it is a bit quite uncomfortable and it is a bi — quite uncomfortable and it is a bit invasive. there— quite uncomfortable and it is a bit invasive. “iii; : quite uncomfortable and it is a bit invasive. "iii; : quite uncomfortable and it is a bit ziizzivasive. : quite uncomfortable and it is a bit iii: " to be some sort of agreement in place with the receptionist like there with the doctors, like there is with the doctors, like a confidentiality agreement. but would but i don't know that i would necessaiiiy— but i don't know that i would necessarily-that- but i don't know that i would necessarily that there's necessarily trust that there's mai— necessarily trust that there's that automatic— necessarily trust that there's that automatic trust between a domi— that automatic trust between a doctor, isn-i— that automatic trust between a doctor, isn't there,— that automatic trust between a doctor, isn't there, and a patient— doctor, isn't there, and a paiieni .— doctor, isn't there, and a paiieni . i— doctor, isn't there, and a patient . i don't know if you get patient. i don't know if you get mai— patient. i don't know if you get that wiiii— patient. i don't know if you get that with like _ patient. i don't know if you get that with like a— patient. i don't know if you get that with like a receptionist or someone different position someone in a different position . _the- someone in a different positioni . _the questions. . it depends on the questions. but most now if i'm but most likely now if i'm calling them, i'm expecting someone capable and the someone to be capable and the receptionist to be knowledgeable as well. if they have someone who just covering the day as who is just covering the day as a reception, then this won't work because the person won't know how to exactly to act
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know how to how exactly to act on my case because i know what's happenedin on my case because i know what's happened in a few places at home andifs happened in a few places at home and it's blocking people from getting appointments. why .7 getting appointments. why.7 because they getting appointments. why? because they don't want to. yeah. yeah , yeah. i think. no, yeah. yeah, yeah. ithink. no, i wouiin-t— yeah. yeah, yeah. ithink. no, i wouldn't really— yeah. yeah, yeah. ithink. no, i wouldn't really be— / yeah, yeah. i think. no, i wouldn't really be on for that no— wouldn't really be on for that no .— wouldn't really be on for that no . ani— wouldn't really be on for that now. \i:::i ' i: wouldn't really be on for that now. m] ' now. no. and yourself, i'd be the very same. yeah. you know, doctor,— the very same. yeah. you know, doctor, is— the very same. yeah. you know, doctor, is private,— the very same. yeah. you know, doctor, is private, isn't- icy yeah. you know, doctor, is private, isn't it? like— doctor, is private, isn't it? iiie this— doctor, is private, isn't it? iiie this is— doctor, is private, isn't it? like this is confidential, motty. they're like, when you go to doctor, she'll be make to your doctor, she'll be make the appointment. you want to see the appointment. you want to see the doctor?— the appointment. you want to see the doctor? well,— the appointment. you want to see the doctor? well, there— the appointment. you want to see the doctor? well, there we- you want to see the doctor? well, there we go. a range— the doctor? well, there we go. a range oi— the doctor? well, there we go. a range of views. i— the doctor? well, there we go. ' g , i think this a range of views. i think this is-iave— a range of views. i think this is-have.impact. a range of views. i think this is-have.impact in is going to have an impact in wrai— is going to have an impact in wig-where— is going to have an impact in rural where there's rural areas where there's a smaii— rural areas where there's a small-service.- small local gp service. and iet-s— small local gp service. and let's-honest,— small local gp service. and let's honest, everybody let's be honest, everybody knows each—reini- each other and do you really want— each other and do you really wani io— each other and do you really want to call— each other and do you really want to call up,— each other and do you really want to call up, you know, dorothy,— want to call up, you know, dorothy, you— want to call up, you know, dorothy, you go- want to call up, you know, dorothy, you go for a drink with down— dorothy, you go for a drink with gown-gui— dorothy, you go for a drink with gown-poi oni— dorothy, you go for a drink with down-pub and you- dorothy, you go for a drink with down pub and you know, he's dorothy, you go for a drink with dothp's pub and you know, he's dorothy, you go for a drink with dothp's receptionistiu know, he's dorothy, you go for a drink with dothp's receptionist andiow, he's dorothy, you go for a drink with dothp's receptionist and tell he's the gp's receptionist and tell her— the gp's receptionist and tell ioi-you-vo— the gp's receptionist and tell ioi-you-vo got- the gp's receptionist and tell her you've got something her that you've got something oiooiutoiy— absolutely catastrophic wrong with— with you. maybe not. anyway, ion-t— with you. maybe not. anyway, don't—because l don't go anywhere, because up next,— don't go anywhere, because up next-joined- don't go anywhere, because up next,-joined in- don't go anywhere, because up next,-joined in the. next, we'll be joined in the studio— next, we'll be joined in the studio - halligan i next, we'll be joined in the studio halligan is studio by liam halligan is around— studio by liam halligan is around households studio by liam halligan is- around-households missed around 700,000 households missed moiigogo— around 700,000 households missed moiigogo-goymonio- mortgage or rent payments last momm— mortgage or rent payments last moniiii—goingi mortgage or rent payments last. month—going on month? what on earth is going on therei— month? what on earth is going on mom-its— month? what on earth is going on iiioioi-it-o your- there? but first, it's your iotoot— there? but first, it's your latest headlines . g 55:2
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latest headlines. it's 332. i'm tamsin roberts. here's the latest from the gb news room. the information commissioner's office says it will not be taking any action against lancashire police over its disclosure of nicola bulis personal information. the force came under criticism after the 45 year old's body was discovered in the river wyre in february following a three week search. meanwhile the police watchdog, the independent office for police conduct, also says it's identified two areas of learning after the force had contact with nicola birley in the days before she went missing. an independent review by the college of policing into the handling of the case is also underway with findings and recommendations due to be published in the autumn . the met published in the autumn. the met police commissioner has defended his force's policing of the coronation after it was criticised for arresting protesters from the group repubuc protesters from the group republic ahead of the event. sir mark rowley described the arrests as unfortunate but stressed he supports the arresting officers actions. he said suspects were found with
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bottles of white paint and that there was intelligence to suggest some may use rape alarms or loudhailers during the coronation procession, the force confirmed the individuals face no further action after being stopped under the new public order act . the former prime order act. the former prime minister of pakistan has been arrested by anti corruption police in islamabad as supporters of the politician are being told to shut down the country . footage shows country. footage shows paramilitary troops in riot gear surrounding the former cricketer in court premises. it's thought he's been arrested in connection with a corruption case. the move has led to protests in mr khan's hometown of lahore and members of his political party are calling for support. imran khan was ousted from power in a paramilitary vote in april last year. paramilitary vote in april last year . the paramilitary vote in april last year. the prime minister has rejected claims by the russian president that the west is to blame for the war in ukraine. rishi sunak says president putin is the only person responsible
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the finance report on gb news for gold and silver investment . for gold and silver investment. well, welcome back , everybody. well, welcome back, everybody. mowi— well, welcome back, everybody. now. the— well, welcome back, everybody. now. the im— well, welcome back, everybody. now, the 100% mortgage- well, welcome back, everybody. now, the 100% mortgage is- well, welcome back, everybody. now, the 100% mortgage is back . now, the 100% mortgage is back. skipton building society is set to offer the product to help renters get their first home. but this might lead to people borrowing beyond their means. and it comes as around 700,000 households miss mortgage or rent payments last month. so according to a new survey by consumer group which. those are the stats. now joining us now is our economics and business editor liam halligan with on the money . yes 700,000 people. money. yes 700,000 people. i mean i read that headline this morning and it really brought it home for me for really, for want of a better phrase. yeah, almost three quarters of a million people who are in such financial stress, they're missing payments on really big things in their lives like their mortgages, like their credit card bills.
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everyone knows if you their credit card bills. - everyone knows if you miss a payment— everyone knows if you miss a payment ino— everyone knows if you miss a payment like that, your credit rating— payment like that, your credit rating disappears. and so getting— rating disappears. and so getting credit— rating disappears. and so getting credit in the future is going— getting credit in the future is going to— getting credit in the future is going to no— getting credit in the future is going to no a— getting credit in the future is going to be a lot— getting credit in the future is going to be a lot more difficult for a— going to be a lot more difficult for a iong— going to be a lot more difficult for a long time— going to be a lot more difficult for a long time to— going to be a lot more difficult for a long time to come. but vinai— for a long time to come. but what-looking- for a long time to come. but what looking today , what we're looking at today, patrick,— what we're looking at today, nation as— what we're looking at today, patrick, as-say, - what we're looking at today, patrick, as say, is this patrick, as you say, is this iooyo— patrick, as you say, is this 100% mortgage. why do we need iooyo— 100% mortgage. why do we need iooyo nongago— 100% mortgage. why do we need 100% mortgage and what is it? wein— 100% mortgage and what is it? yogi, nava— 100% mortgage and what is it? well, havellook_ 100% mortgage and what is it? well, havellook at- 100% mortgage and what is it? well, have look at this well, have a look at this gnapnio— well, have a look at this. graphic-listeners well, have a look at this- graphic-listeners can graphic and radio listeners can inan— graphic and radio listeners can bear witn— graphic and radio listeners can bear win a.— graphic and radio listeners can bear with us. i— graphic and radio listeners can bear with us. i discovered this morning— bear with us. i discovered this morning tnat— bear with us. i discovered this morning that the— bear with us. i discovered this morning that the average deposit for morning that the average deposit ion gig— morning that the average deposit for gig ino— morning that the average deposit for first time buyers ftbs in tnn— for first time buyers ftbs in tnio country— for first time buyers ftbs in this country is— for first time buyers ftbs in this country is 62,500 pounds. non— this country is 62,500 pounds. non tnat— this country is 62,500 pounds. non tnat io— this country is 62,500 pounds. non tnat is a— this country is 62,500 pounds. now that is a huge amount of nnony — now that is a huge amount of nnony vino-o— now that is a huge amount of money. who's got— now that is a huge amount of money. who's got 62 grand lying around— money. who's got 62 grand lying aoni in— money. who's got 62 grand lying around in their— money. who's got 62 grand lying around in their bank account? now— around in their bank account? now an— around in their bank account? now yon— around in their bank account? how can you save— around in their bank account? how can you save £62,000 when yon-no— how can you save £62,000 when yon-no using— how can you save £62,000 when yon-no nsing nan— how can you save £62,000 when you're using half your money on nonn— you're using half your money on ma, nnen— you're using half your money on rent, when you're— you're using half your money on rent, when you're working really nanni— rent, when you're working really nanii so— rent, when you're working really nanii so i..— rent, when you're working really hard? so the average first time bayon— hard? so the average first time inyon deposit— hard? so the average first time buyer deposit is— hard? so the average first time buyer deposit is 62 grand. and inai— buyer deposit is 62 grand. and tnat moans— buyer deposit is 62 grand. and that means that— buyer deposit is 62 grand. and that means that most first time iayons— that means that most first time inyons non— that means that most first time buyers, now, they— that means that most first time buyers, now, they rely on the bank— buyers, now, they rely on the bank oi— buyers, now, they rely on the bank of non— buyers, now, they rely on the bank of mum and dad, which of course is fine— bank of mum and dad, which of course is fine if— bank of mum and dad, which of course is fine if you come from aianiiy— course is fine if you come from aianiiy tnat— course is fine if you come from a family that owns— course is fine if you come from a family that owns property. but if you— a family that owns property. but i you ion-a— a family that owns property. but if you don't, then— a family that owns property. but if you don't, then how are you going— if you don't, then how are you going to— if you don't, then how are you going to get— if you don't, then how are you going to goi on— if you don't, then how are you going to get on the property iaiioni— going to get on the property ladder? .that's- going to get on the property ladder? that's really ladder? and that's really kind of- regressive. - ladder? and that's really kind of-regressive. .soj of socially regressive. kyiv so wigg— of socially regressive. kyiv so what? skipton— of socially regressive. kyiv so what? skipton the building
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of socially regressive. kyiv so what? sare ton the building of socially regressive. kyiv so what? sare doing,i building of socially regressive. kyiv so what? sare doing, they'reig of socially regressive. kyiv so what? sare doing, they're going society are doing, they're going to offer home loans without a deposit,— to offer home loans without a ggpggglgggy— to offer home loans without a deposit,-they say- to offer home loans without a deposit, they say you need deposit, but they say you need to nays— deposit, but they say you need to have shown— deposit, but they say you need to have shown that you've made nio— to have shown that you've made two yoans— to have shown that you've made two years-regular— to have shown that you've made two years regular monthly two years of regular monthly nontai— two years of regular monthly rental payments— two years of regular monthly rental payments demonstrate rental payments to demonstrate youn— rental payments to demonstrate yoan king— rental payments to demonstrate yonn king oi— rental payments to demonstrate your kind of reliability and youn— your kind of reliability and yonn oanning— your kind of reliability and your earning power. and skipton, say tnat-s— your earning power. and skipton, say anai-s ion— your earning power. and skipton, say that's for those _ your earning power. and skipton, say that's for those trapped in a nontai— say that's for those trapped in a rental cycle. _ say that's for those trapped in a rental cycle. so— say that's for those trapped in a rental cycle. so what is a nontai— a rental cycle. so what is a .gmg sysio — a rental cycle. so what is a rental cycle ?_ a rental cycle. so what is a rental cycle ? something to do rental cycle? something to do win — rental cycle? something to do niin goiiing— rental cycle? something to do with getting on— rental cycle? something to do with getting on the shops , on with getting on the shops, on a nine— with getting on the shops, on a bike on— with getting on the shops, on a bike or anything— with getting on the shops, on a bike or anything like that? it's the bike or anything like that? it's in oysio— bike or anything like that? it's the cycle that— bike or anything like that? it's the cycle that lots and lots of poopin— the cycle that lots and lots of ww“! an— the cycle that lots and lots of ww“! in— the cycle that lots and lots of people are in where they're nonning— people are in where they're working hard— people are in where they're working hard and because they're paying— working hard and because they're paying so— working hard and because they're paying so noon— working hard and because they're paying so noon in— working hard and because they're paying so much in rent every nonin— paying so much in rent every mpg, tnoy— paying so much in rent every month, they can't save for a deposit— month, they can't save for a ggpggp io — month, they can't save for a deposit to actually start paying pig.— deposit to actually start paying pig. own— deposit to actually start paying their own mortgage rather than someone else's_ their own mortgage rather than someone else's .— their own mortgage rather than someone else's . and skipton say someone else's. and skipton say tnoy— someone else's. and skipton say tnoy want— someone else's. and skipton say tnoy nani to— someone else's. and skipton say they want to . and _ someone else's. and skipton say they want to and do they want to try and do sonotning— they want to try and do something that. they want to try and do- something-that. now i they want to try and do— something-that. now i can something about that. now i can see something about that. now i can sea-night— something about that. now i can see might music to a see why this might be music to a lot people's ears. my concern lot of people's ears. my concern initially on this, and hopefully you can this up, would be, you can clear this up, would be, well, what's interest rate well, what's your interest rate going actually, going to be on it? and actually, are to end you are you going to end up are you then going end up in a then going to end up in a massive hole with a lender like skipton and that actual house that you were looking to buy is taken off ? you dare i say you
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taken off? you dare i say you might even be a worse position than if you missed a rental payment. your instincts are sonpioaoiy— payment. your instincts are completely right.- your instincts are completely right. know, completely right. you know, banks— completely right. you know, banks-societies,- completely right. you know, banks not societies, completely right. you know, banks not altruisticties, they're not altruistic organisations they're organisations, they're not oianiiios— organisations, they're not charities. _it. organisations, they're not- charities. _itlmake charities. they're in it to make nony— charities. they're in it to make nnony iaignti— charities. they're in it to make money. right? and skipton are saying— money. right? and skipton are saying inat— money. right? and skipton are saying that they're going to onango — saying that they're going to onango on— saying that they're going to charge on current interest ates — charge on current interest naest vot— charge on current interest rates. you know , upwards of 5.5, rates. you know, upwards of 5.5, onion— rates. you know, upwards of 5.5, onion is— rates. you know, upwards of 5.5, onion is nnon— rates. you know, upwards of 5.5, which is much higher than the negaian— which is much higher than the regular average— which is much higher than the regular average variable rate. ant— regular average variable rate. ant it— regular average variable rate. ant it you— regular average variable rate. and if you take— regular average variable rate. and if you take this mortgage, yone— and if you take this mortgage, yo-ne tootsi— and if you take this mortgage, you're locked in— and if you take this mortgage, you're locked in at that high nate— you're locked in at that high nate ton— you're locked in at that high rate for five— you're locked in at that high rate for five years. so there witt— rate for five years. so there niii te — rate for five years. so there will be people— rate for five years. so there will be people listening to this nno— will be people listening to this nno witt— will be people listening to this nno niii get— will be people listening to this who will get together with their pantnens— who will get together with their partners tonight— who will get together with their partners tonight and say, look, we can actually— partners tonight and say, look, we can actually buy a house, we astaaiiy— we can actually buy a house, we can actually buy— we can actually buy a house, we can actually buy house, but can actually buy a house, but i notio— can actually buy a house, but i noait i— can actually buy a house, but i would i would— can actually buy a house, but i would i would bet— can actually buy a house, but i would i would bet a lot of money tnat— would i would bet a lot of money tnat in— would i would bet a lot of money tnat in tite— would i would bet a lot of money that in five years,— would i would bet a lot of money that in five years, interest nates— that in five years, interest rates are going- that in five years, interest rates are going to be lot rates are going to be a lot ionen— rates are going to be a lot lower - interest - rates are going to be a lot. lower-interest-are lower than interest rates are about— lower than interest rates are about to— lower than interest rates are about to peak. _ lower than interest rates are about to peak. they might go up again— about to peak. they might go up again-inanstay— about to peak. they might go up again thursday the again this thursday when the tank— bank of england makes a decision. — bank of england makes a decision. _soonl decision. but pretty soon tney-ne— decision. but pretty soon they're-start. decision. but pretty soon- they're-start coming they're going to start coming tonn— they're going to start coming town again.— they're going to start coming down again. they're to down again. so they're going to toot— down again. so they're going to toot-ant— down again. so they're going to toot-antlyoa- down again. so they're going to lock-andiyou say,| lock people in and as you say, nation— lock people in and as you say, patrick,-prices- lock people in and as you say, patrick, prices then patrick, if house prices then tatt— patrick, if house prices then tait .— patrick, if house prices then tait , yon-ii— patrick, if house prices then fall , you'll be— patrick, if house prices then fall , you'll be left patrick, if house prices then fall, you'll be left in this situation— fall, you'll be left in this situation ,_ fall, you'll be left in this situation , which we in the 80s situation, which we in the 80s satiet— situation, which we in the 80s called negative _ situation, which we in the 80s called negative equity. what goes— called negative equity. what does-mean?— called negative equity. what does mean? means you does that mean? it means you youn— does that mean? it means you yoan none— does that mean? it means you your home loan— does that mean? it means you your home loan on your house is tnan— your home loan on your house is tnan tne— your home loan on your house is
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more than the house is worth. vean. — more than the house is worth. vean. so— more than the house is worth. vean. so it— more than the house is worth. vean. so it you— more than the house is worth. yeah. so if you sell the house, yon-ve— yeah. so if you sell the house, yon-ye stit— yeah. so if you sell the house, yon-ye stiti got— yeah. so if you sell the house, you've still got a— yeah. so if you sell the house, you've still got a massive debt to pay— you've still got a massive debt to pay-nongage- you've still got a massive debt to pay mortgage provider. to pay the mortgage provider. so you to pay the mortgage provider. so yoe-yon— to pay the mortgage provider. so you-youn nouse- to pay the mortgage provider. so you-your house, so. you can't sell your house, so youne— you can't sell your house, so you tnappet— you can't sell your house, so you're trapped that is what negative— you're trapped that is what negative equity is. and my concern is that— negative equity is. and my concern is that 100% mortgages at tnese— concern is that 100% mortgages at these higher— concern is that 100% mortgages at these higher rates could lead to tnat— at these higher rates could lead to ma as— at these higher rates could lead to that as well— at these higher rates could lead to that as well as— at these higher rates could lead to that as well as the issues we nave— to that as well as the issues we nave witn— to that as well as the issues we have with 100% _ to that as well as the issues we have with 100% mortgages. before the have with 100% mortgages. before tne giotai— have with 100% mortgages. before the global financial crisis, onene— the global financial crisis, nnene tney— the global financial crisis, where they juiced up the housing nantet— where they juiced up the housing nantet ant— where they juiced up the housing market and led— where they juiced up the housing market and led to— where they juiced up the housing market and led to and then led to a— market and led to and then led to a snasn— market and led to and then led to a snasn — market and led to and then led to a crash. and— market and led to and then led to a crash. and let's- market and led to and then led to a crash. ' i: ”iii: to a crash. and let's say we're five years down the now. five years down the line now. someone's gone and got 100% someone's just gone and got 100% mortgage. years someone's just gone and got 100% mortgthe. years someone's just gone and got 100% mortgthe. and years someone's just gone and got 100% mortgthe. and that ears someone's just gone and got 100% mortgthe. and that lender down the line. and that lender knows, that knows, don't they, that that you've huge amount of you've not got a huge amount of money. fall back money. probably to fall back on because see your because they can see what your paying because they can see what your paying your every paying off your mortgage every single they will know single month they will know exactly what you earn every single much. single month. pretty much. and they that you didn't they will know that you didn't have the money initially to get a deposit. so presumably there's no them to give no incentive for them to give you great when you come you a great deal when you come to that in five years to renew that in five years time. there, if you if time. and look there, if you if youne— time. and look there, if you if you-ne-iooyo- c and look there, if you if you're 100% mortgage, c and look there, if you if you're no 100% mortgage, c and look there, if you if you're no deposit)% mortgage, c and look there, if you if you're no deposit ,% mortgage, c and look there, if you if you're no deposit , it's ortgage, c and look there, if you if you're no deposit , it's because right, no deposit, it's because you— right, no deposit, it's because you naven-t— right, no deposit, it's because you naven-t-any- right, no deposit, it's because you haven't any family right, no deposit, it's because you havright any family right, no deposit, it's because you hav right andiy family right, no deposit, it's because you hav right andiy fam really money. right and that's really tat.— money. right and that's really tat. ine— money. right and that's really bad. the housing— money. right and that's really bad. the housing market used to be bad. the housing market used to toe-ot— bad. the housing market used to te-ot sosiai— bad. the housing market used to be of social mobility. be a source of social mobility. ieopie— be a source of social mobility. neopie nave— be a source of social mobility. people have no— be a source of social mobility. people have no wealth like my
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panents. — people have no wealth like my panents. tney— people have no wealth like my parents. they were able working siass— parents. they were able working siass peopie— parents. they were able working siass peopie to— parents. they were able working class people to get their foot on tne— class people to get their foot on the housing— class people to get their foot on the housing ladder, which sonpieteiy— on the housing ladder, which completely changed their life. mone— completely changed their life. more financial— completely changed their life. more financial security, more onoises— more financial security, more choices retirement and all of choices in retirement and all of tnat— choices in retirement and all of tnat. tney— choices in retirement and all of that. they didn't— choices in retirement and all of that. they didn't get any family nnony — that. they didn't get any family nnony oney.— that. they didn't get any family money. crikey-if- that. they didn't get any family money. crikey. if situations money. crikey. but if situations you— money. crikey. but if situations you nave— money. crikey. but if situations now you have to— money. crikey. but if situations now you have to fall back on the tank— now you have to fall back on the tank ot— now you have to fall back on the tank ot nun— now you have to fall back on the bank of mum and— now you have to fall back on the bank of mum and dad, that's going— bank of mum and dad, that's going to— bank of mum and dad, that's going to teat— bank of mum and dad, that's going to lead to— bank of mum and dad, that's going to lead to a huge amount of resentment— going to lead to a huge amount of resentment among young people teause— of resentment among young people teause tney-ii— of resentment among young people because they'll see— of resentment among young people because they'll see their contemporaries doing the same amount— contemporaries doing the same amount-as them- contemporaries doing the same amount-as them ,- contemporaries doing the same amount as them , but they amount of work as them, but they can amount of work as them, but they astuaiiy— amount of work as them, but they can actually own— amount of work as them, but they can actually own their own house so-an— can actually own their own house so-san-tnon - can actually own their own house so -can _from house l so they can benefit from house pnise — so they can benefit from house pnise _iney-ne— so they can benefit from house price they're paying price rises. they're not paying someone mortgage price rises. they're not paying someone-mortgage do someone else's mortgage and i do nonent— someone else's mortgage and i do nontenlstipton— someone else's mortgage and i do wonderlskipton are— someone else's mortgage and i do wonder skipton are allowed to wonder if skipton are allowed to do wonder if skipton are allowed to to tnis— wonder if skipton are allowed to to tnis it— wonder if skipton are allowed to to tnis it tne— wonder if skipton are allowed to do this if the regulator will come under pressure from other pants— come under pressure from other pants-tet— come under pressure from other banks-let these— come under pressure from other banks let these 100% banks to let these 100% nontgages— banks to let these 100% mortgages through even 110% mortgages go through even 110% nontgages— mortgages go through even 110% nontgages onene— mortgages go through even 110% mortgages where you get lent none-tne— mortgages where you get lent none-tne-ot- mortgages where you get lent more -the _of the l more than the value of the nouse— more than the value of the nous so— more than the value of the house. so you— more than the value of the house. so you can splurge on witessneen— house. so you can splurge on uitessneenl— house. so you can splurge on widescreen , furniture and widescreen tvs, furniture and all widescreen tvs, furniture and at tne— widescreen tvs, furniture and at tne nest— widescreen tvs, furniture and all the rest of— widescreen tvs, furniture and all the rest of it.— widescreen tvs, furniture and all the rest of it. and the pnoiten — all the rest of it. and the problem with— all the rest of it. and the problem with that, patrick, is tnat— problem with that, patrick, is tnat an— problem with that, patrick, is that can juice— problem with that, patrick, is that can juice up— problem with that, patrick, is that can juice up the housing nantet— that can juice up the housing nantet teat— that can juice up the housing market lead to— that can juice up the housing market lead to an even bigger tuitio— market lead to an even bigger tuttie ant— market lead to an even bigger bubble and then— market lead to an even bigger bubble and then ultimately a snasn— bubble and then ultimately a snasn.|ton-t— bubble and then ultimately a crash. don't want to be crash. i don't want to be negative— crash. i don't want to be negative-this- crash. i don't want to be negative-this .- crash. i don't want to be negative this . i really negative about this. i really want— negative about this. i really want-peopie- negative about this. i really want-people to- negative about this. i really. want-people to .on negative about this. i really- want-people to .on the want young people to get on the nousing— want young people to get on the housing ladder— want young people to get on the
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housing ladder they can. but housing ladder if they can. but the housing ladder if they can. but tne-to— housing ladder if they can. but tne-to-is- housing ladder if they can. but tne-to-is to- housing ladder if they can. but the-do-is to build. the way to do that is to build none-tuiti- the way to do that is to build more-build more- the way to do that is to build more build more houses more houses, build more houses ioo. — more houses, build more houses ioo. _tnat— more houses, build more houses 100. _that actually- more houses, build more houses 100. _that actually hasl 100. i mean, that actually has been pretty much been the solution to pretty much everything spoken to one everything i've spoken to one way another in this show . way or another in this show. liam, very liam liam, thank you very much. liam halligan there our economics and business with the halligan there our economics and businesnow. with the halligan there our economics and businesnow. okay. th the halligan there our economics and businesnow. okay. so the halligan there our economics and businesnow. okay. so on:he halligan there our economics and businesnow. okay. so on to an money now. okay. so on to an outrageous video doing the rounds this morning showing a now starbuck employee now sacked starbuck employee accusing customer of accusing a customer of transphobia and then assaulting another. we're going to talk about this on the other side of the break. but i wanted to play you this video. i mean, it is quite shocking. take a look . quite shocking. take a look. don't ever call me transphobic, ever. you don't ever call me transphobic, ever . you do not know me. you're ever. you do not know me. you're being— ever. you do not know me. you're being transphobic— ever. you do not know me. you're being transphobic .— you do not know me. you're being transphobic . karen, do not being transphobic. karen, do not sati— being transphobic. karen, do not saii ne— being transphobic. karen, do not call me transphobic. /i:::i. at; call me transphobic. you are coviia— call me transphobic. you are covio. neu— call me transphobic. you are covid. now get out call me transphobic. 5:::i. 352; co “j witty 3 you're call me transphobic. 5ii. ”if�*iil co “j wing i911 you're not covid. now get out. you're not coming on— covid. now get out. you're not coming on poti— covid. now get out. you're not coming on dodi .— covid. now get out. you're not coming on dodi . hi.— covid. now get out. you're not coming on dodi . hi. get- co “j \\�*fi]\l i911 you're not coming on dodi . hi. get out. (zoe “j ntitnt gii you're not coming on dodi . hi. get out . you coming on dodi. hi. get out. you are coming on dodi. hi. get out. you tnespassing— coming on dodi. hi. get out. you are trespassing now— coming on dodi. hi. get out. you are trespassing now they've got cameras. you are— are trespassing now they've got cameras. you are trespassing . cameras. you are trespassing. eet— cameras. you are trespassing. set out. — cameras. you are trespassing. set out. not— cameras. you are trespassing. get out. get out— cameras. you are trespassing. get out. get out .— cameras. you are trespassing. get out. get out . you are get out. get out. you are tnespassing— get out. get out. you are tnespassing .— get out. get out. you are trespassing . apparently, we said trespassing. apparently, we said sonetning— trespassing. apparently, we said something transphobic . 5it something transphobic. you actuaiiy— something transphobic. you
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actually actually— something transphobic. you actually actually ,- something transphobic. you actually actually , you- something transphobic. you actually actually , you bakhmut . actually actually, you bakhmut. you . oof oofi yes. well, there you. oof oofi yes. well, there we go. more on that a little bit later on. but coming up, though, we will get back to the very latest on the met police because their chief, sir rowley, their chief, sir mark rowley, has the combination has defended the combination arrest. he's dropped because he would see it. truth bombs on the situation that might just quell people who were saying the met were bang out of order. and it was shocking was absolutely shocking behaviour. patrick christys behaviour. i'm patrick christys on gb news. we britain's
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the people's channel. britain's news . channel— the people's channel. britain's news . channel this— " britain's news . channel this round was news. channel this round was netting— news. channel this round was tneuing att— news. channel this round was brewing all weekend. i f brewing all weekend. it came to a pit— brewing all weekend. it came to a bit at— brewing all weekend. it came to a bit at a— brewing all weekend. it came to a bit of a head yesterday, but there's been some more developments in last hour or developments in the last hour or so. mayor of london and the so. the mayor of london and the met to be met commissioner appeared to be at this afternoon met commissioner appeared to be at those this afternoon met commissioner appeared to be at those arrests s afternoon met commissioner appeared to be at those arrests of ifternoon met commissioner appeared to be at those arrests of republican over those arrests of republican protesters. ahead of the coronation. now, sir mark rowley has defended his officers for arresting these people, saying that he supports the police officers actions. but just just
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moments later said he can't. the mayor of london wrote to him asking for a review , too, of asking for a review, too, of what happened. graham smith is the chair. sorry chief executive of the anti—monarchy group repubuc of the anti—monarchy group republic , and one of those who republic, and one of those who was arrested. he says he will republic, and one of those who was bezsted. he says he will republic, and one of those who was be takingie says he will republic, and one of those who was be taking legals he will republic, and one of those who was be taking legal actionill still be taking legal action against the police over his arrest using the new law that was passed days before the coronation the public coronation about the public order bill. i'm going to go now to he's our to paul hawkins. he's our national reporter. he's outside scotland for us. and paul, scotland yard for us. and paul, mark rowley offered what he would feel is a would obviously feel is a justification for police actions , didn't he ? yeah, essentially , didn't he? yeah, essentially he , didn't he? yeah, essentially is was— , didn't he? yeah, essentially ne saying— , didn't he? yeah, essentially he was saying the— t: t: p i pti7 yeah, essentially he was saying the police openation— he was saying the police operation was- he was saying the police operation was so big for the cononation— operation was so big for the coronation, we— operation was so big for the coronation, we had intelligence tnat— coronation, we had intelligence tnat tnene— coronation, we had intelligence that there was— coronation, we had intelligence that there was a— coronation, we had intelligence that there was a criminal netwont— that there was a criminal network, that— that there was a criminal network, that there were fake steuants— network, that there were fake stewards potentially going to tnnon— stewards potentially going to how two— stewards potentially going to throw two bottles of white paint at oisnupt— throw two bottles of white paint at i>isnupt tne— throw two bottles of white paint at disrupt the coronation with nape— at disrupt the coronation with nape aianns— at disrupt the coronation with rape alarms, etcetera. so we gagg— rape alarms, etcetera. so we acted on— rape alarms, etcetera. so we acted on that— rape alarms, etcetera. so we acted on that intelligence. but speoitis— acted on that intelligence. but specific albie_ acted on that intelligence. but specific albie this incident nitn — specific albie this incident nitn tne — specific albie this incident with the arrest— specific albie this incident with the arrest of this group of pnotestens— with the arrest of this group of protesters from _ with the arrest of this group of protesters from the
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anti—monarchy group republic protesters from the _ anti—monarchy group republic and met— anti—monarchy group republic and tnein cio— anti—monarchy group republic and tnein cio .— anti—monarchy group republic and their ceo , graham— anti—monarchy group republic and their ceo , graham smith, that's their ceo, graham smith, that's their ceo, graham smith, that's tne one— their ceo, graham smith, that's tne tnats— their ceo, graham smith, that's the one that's caused real questions— the one that's caused real questions to— the one that's caused real questions to be- the one that's caused real questions to be asked about how the questions to be asked about how tne poise— questions to be asked about how the police interpret the new tuitio— the police interpret the new public order— the police interpret the new public order act and also show the public order act and also show tne uonting— public order act and also show the wording of— public order act and also show the wording of the— public order act and also show the wording of the legislation itseit— the wording of the legislation itseit. non,— the wording of the legislation itself. now, they— the wording of the legislation itself. now, they were held for up to — itself. now, they were held for up to te— itself. now, they were held for up to to nouns— itself. now, they were held for up to 16 hours before being neieasei— up to 16 hours before being released without charge. they pionee— released without charge. they picked up— released without charge. they were picked up around 640 on the nonning— were picked up around 640 on the nonning ot— were picked up around 640 on the nonning ot tne— were picked up around 640 on the morning of the coronation in a nine— morning of the coronation in a nine van— morning of the coronation in a nine ant— morning of the coronation in a hire van. and police arrested tnen— hire van. and police arrested them because— hire van. and police arrested them because they suspected that tney— them because they suspected that tney uene— them because they suspected that tney going— them because they suspected that tney going to— them because they suspected that they were going to use the luggage— they were going to use the luggage straps— they were going to use the luggage straps that they had to toot— luggage straps that they had to lock themselves— luggage straps that they had to lock themselves on to inanimate otiests— lock themselves on to inanimate opiests, union— lock themselves on to inanimate objects, which would be illegal unten— objects, which would be illegal unien tne— objects, which would be illegal under the public— objects, which would be illegal under the public order act . they under the public order act. they pointed— under the public order act. they pointed out— under the public order act. they pointed out that— under the public order act. they pointed out that the luggage stnaps— pointed out that the luggage stnaps nnoe— pointed out that the luggage straps were used for going to be used— straps were used for going to be used to— straps were used for going to be used to secure— straps were used for going to be used to secure placards and notning— used to secure placards and notning to— used to secure placards and notning to to— used to secure placards and nothing to do with locking on. ino— nothing to do with locking on. ino poiioo— nothing to do with locking on. the police said— nothing to do with locking on. the police said they were acting on intelligence.— the police said they were acting on intelligence. 16— the police said they were acting on intelligence. 16 hours later, tney— on intelligence. 16 hours later, tnoy nono— on intelligence. 16 hours later, they were released without onango. —anl they were released without- charge-_of!n apologv charge. we then get an apology non— charge. we then get an apology nonnon-— charge. we then get an apology from-on sunday- charge. we then get an apology from on sunday night, from the met on sunday night, saying— from the met on sunday night, saying investigation has saying the investigation has been— saying the investigation has noon-to— saying the investigation has been-to prove- saying the investigation has been to prove intent , to been unable to prove intent, to tnon— been unable to prove intent, to use them-lock— been unable to prove intent, to use them .lock on - been unable to prove intent, to use them lock on and disrupt use them to lock on and disrupt the use them to lock on and disrupt tne-nnt— use them to lock on and disrupt tne-nnt-gotl the event. and today we get a iongtny— the event. and today we get a lengthy statement from mark itonioy— lengthy statement from mark itonioy setting— lengthy statement from mark rowley setting out how big the poiso— rowley setting out how big the police operation _ rowley setting out how big the police operation was . very police operation was. very
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totonsino— police operation was. very defensive-,- police operation was. very defensive , saying defensive in tone, saying ant— defensive in tone, saying serious and reliable intelligence told us that the nists— intelligence told us that the nists — intelligence told us that the risks were very— intelligence told us that the risks were very real. however on nonioning— risks were very real. however on nonioning tno — risks were very real. however on reviewing the evidence, we will be reviewing the evidence, we will too-no — reviewing the evidence, we will too-no tuntnon— reviewing the evidence, we will be no further action. we be taking no further action. we do be taking no further action. we to not— be taking no further action. we to not iutgo— be taking no further action. we do not judge that— be taking no further action. we do not judge that we will be atto— do not judge that we will be able _criminal- do not judge that we will be able criminal intent able to prove criminal intent toyont— able to prove criminal intenti beyond—doubt. able to prove criminal intent. beyond—doubt. it beyond all reasonable doubt. it is unfortunate— beyond all reasonable doubt. it is unfortunate that that the pnotestens— is unfortunate that that the protesters were _ is unfortunate that that the protesters were not able to join the protesters were not able to join to main— protesters were not able to join the main demonstration. now, tnnoo— the main demonstration. now, three officers— the main demonstration. now, three officers visited the house of three officers visited the house ot enanan— three officers visited the house of graham smith— three officers visited the house of graham smith to personally apoiogiso— of graham smith to personally apologise, including a chief inspooton— apologise, including a chief inspooton .— apologise, including a chief inspector . that— apologise, including a chief inspector . that is, apologise inspector. that is, apologise not— inspector. that is, apologise not ton— inspector. that is, apologise not ton tne— inspector. that is, apologise not for the arrests , but for the not for the arrests, but for the tact— not for the arrests, but for the taot tnat— not for the arrests, but for the fact that graham _ not for the arrests, but for the fact that graham smith and his toiion— fact that graham smith and his fellow demonstrators were unable to ion— fellow demonstrators were unable to ioin tne— fellow demonstrators were unable to join the protest— fellow demonstrators were unable to join the protest .— fellow demonstrators were unable to join the protest . so there's to join the protest. so there's no apoiogy— to join the protest. so there's no apoiogy ton— to join the protest. so there's no apology for the arrest themselves,— no apology for the arrest themselves, but there is for pnononting— themselves, but there is for preventing the— themselves, but there is for preventing the demonstrators non— preventing the demonstrators tnonioining— preventing the demonstrators from joining the— preventing the demonstrators from joining the main protest. containiy— from joining the main protest. containiy in— from joining the main protest. certainly in terms of the way tne— certainly in terms of the way the legislation— certainly in terms of the way the legislation has been interpreted _ the legislation has been interpreted .— the legislation has been interpreted . the conservative mp interpreted. the conservative mp dania— interpreted. the conservative mp dania danis— interpreted. the conservative mp david davis, who— interpreted. the conservative mp david davis, who voted against tnis— david davis, who voted against tits—ot— david davis, who voted against this-of legislation. david davis, who voted against this of legislation , this new piece of legislation, nas— this new piece of legislation, nas satiet— this new piece of legislation, has called for— this new piece of legislation, has called for the law to be scrutinised— has called for the law to be scrutinised by— has called for the law to be scrutinised by home affairs scrutinised by the home affairs soioot— scrutinised by the home affairs select committee _ scrutinised by the home affairs select committee and sir peter fatty,— select committee and sir peter paw, no-s— select committee and sir peter pay, no tne— select committee and sir peter fahy, he's the ex— select committee and sir peter fahy, he's the ex greater manchester— fahy, he's the ex greater manchester police chief, has satiet— manchester police chief, has oaiiot tne— manchester police chief, has called the legislation poorly totinot— called the legislation poorly defined and _ called the legislation poorly defined and far— called the legislation poorly defined and far too broad. sadiq tnan— defined and far too broad. sadiq tnan nas— defined and far too broad. sadiq tnan nas non— defined and far too broad. sadiq
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khan has now also— defined and far too broad. sadiq khan has now also weighed in. no-s— khan has now also weighed in. no saying— khan has now also weighed in. he's saying that— khan has now also weighed in. he's saying that he's asking for otanity— he's saying that he's asking for otanity tnon — he's saying that he's asking for clarity from the— he's saying that he's asking for clarity from the met police. no-s— clarity from the met police. no-s non— clarity from the met police. he's now saying— clarity from the met police. he's now saying he wants an inguiny— he's now saying he wants an inguinylnoii— he's now saying he wants an inguinylnoii .— he's now saying he wants an inquiry well. he's asking inquiry as well. he's asking nann— inquiry as well. he's asking itant itonioy. — inquiry as well. he's asking mark rowley. he's written to nann— mark rowley. he's written to itant itonioy— mark rowley. he's written to mark rowley specifically asking questions— mark rowley specifically asking questions such— mark rowley specifically asking questions such as— mark rowley specifically asking questions such as why the nesting— questions such as why the arresting-did- questions such as why the arresting did not arresting officers did not appoan— arresting officers did not appearlknow- arresting officers did not appear know republic appear to know that republic had been— appear to know that republic had noon-ntn— appear to know that republic had been _with the _ appear to know that republic had been _with the met- appear to know that republic had been with the met for been liaising with the met for nontns— been liaising with the met for nontns-tno— been liaising with the met for months the coronation and months before the coronation and why— months before the coronation and nny tne— months before the coronation and nny tno pnotest— months before the coronation and why the protest liaison officer not— why the protest liaison officer was not involved— why the protest liaison officer was not involved in the decision making— was not involved in the decision making pnotest— was not involved in the decision making protest the arrests, making protest over the arrests, why— making protest over the arrests, nny-nasn-t— making protest over the arrests, nny-nasn-t a— making protest over the arrests, why wasn't a faster why there wasn't a faster resolution _ why there wasn't a faster. resolution - arrests why there wasn't a faster- resolution-arrests had resolution once the arrests had toen— resolution once the arrests had been natio— resolution once the arrests had been made, and— resolution once the arrests had been made, and what role the new iogisiation— been made, and what role the new legislation played— been made, and what role the new legislation played in the annosst— legislation played in the arrests that— legislation played in the arrests that it- legislation played in the arrests that it could interfere nitn— arrests that it could interfere with peaceful— arrests that it could interfere with peaceful protests if not oanotuiiy— with peaceful protests if not carefully interpreted . so the carefully interpreted. so the not— carefully interpreted. so the not poiso— carefully interpreted. so the met police today not giving any intentions— met police today not giving any intentions .— met police today not giving any interviews . we've— met police today not giving any interviews . we've got that interviews. we've got that statement— interviews. we've got that statement from mark rowley , but statement from mark rowley, but oontainiy— statement from mark rowley, but certainly questions— statement from mark rowley, but certainly questions will continue— certainly questions will continue . be - certainly questions will continue be asked about the continue to be asked about the nonning— continue to be asked about the wording legislation rishi wording of the legislation rishi sunat— wording of the legislation rishi sunak-morning— wording of the legislation rishi sunak morning saying that sunak this morning saying that the—sufficient,- sunak this morning saying that the sufficient, that the wording was sufficient, that tney-no — the wording was sufficient, that tney-no given— the wording was sufficient, that they've given the— the wording was sufficient, that they've given the powers to the poiioo. — they've given the powers to the poiioo. _to — they've given the powers to the poiioo-to tne— they've given the powers to the police. to the police police. it's up to the police non— police. it's up to the police how-interpret- police. it's up to the police. how-interpret-and how they interpret them and questions— how they interpret them and questions how questions being asked about how the-interpreting- questions being asked about how the interpreting that the police are interpreting that iogisiation. — the police are interpreting that legislation. _a- the police are interpreting that legislation. _a bit. legislation. ian yeah, a bit back forth. paul, back and forth. look, paul, thank very ever. thank you very much as ever. paul national paul hawkins, our national reporter . reporter outside scotland yard. i'm going to into the fray i'm going to bring into the fray now door, who's
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now chris door, who's a barrister author justice barrister and author of justice on i believe on trial. and chris, i believe was yesterday great have was on yesterday. great to have you chris. look, you back on, chris. look, i mean, the update here really is what mark rowley has said, right? and i'm just wondering where on this. so in where you are at on this. so in a nutshell , where you are at on this. so in a nutshell, he's saying where you are at on this. so in a nutshell , he's saying we a nutshell, he's saying that we also that also had intelligence that people intended to vandalise monuments, throw paint at the procession and criminal damage on the route. he's also saying massive concerns about rape alarms for horses, etcetera , and alarms for horses, etcetera, and that that would mean that there would be a big issue for public safety. and the risk of multiple serious injuries. he does, i think tellingly also go on to say he basically wishes he could say he basically wishes he could say more, but he can't as this swayed you at all because you were you were vehemently against the way the met behaved. i think when we spoke yesterday. yes, i was. and i still am. and- p : yes, i was. and i still am. and i'm atnait— was. and i still am. and i'm atnait it— was. and i still am. and i'm afraid it doesn't— was. and i still am. and i'm afraid it doesn't it doesn't assuaog— afraid it doesn't it doesn't assuaog ny— afraid it doesn't it doesn't assuage my views or change my tos— assuage my views or change my in— assuage my views or change my in any— assuage my views or change my in any nay— assuage my views or change my in any nay .— assuage my views or change my views in any way . your reporter views in any way. your reporter nignt— views in any way. your reporter nignt to— views in any way. your reporter was right to identify that we nano — was right to identify that we have some of— was right to identify that we have some of the most ludicrous iogisiation— have some of the most ludicrous legislation now— have some of the most ludicrous legislation now in— have some of the most ludicrous legislation now in force that we've ever had— legislation now in force that we've ever had in relation to puttio— we've ever had in relation to pupiio pnotest—
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we've ever had in relation to public protest. _ we've ever had in relation to public protest. i we've ever had in relation to public protest . i f pp public protest. it's actually an offence to lock on and reading the legislation now , section one the legislation now, section one of the 2023 public order act says it's an offence to attach yourself to another person. an object or land . i mean when you object or land. i mean when you nano— object or land. i mean when you into tans— object or land. i mean when you have laws that— object or land. i mean when you have laws that stop— object or land. i mean when you have laws that stop you attaoning— have laws that stop you attaching yourself to another poson— attaching yourself to another poson ant— attaching yourself to another person and criminalise that tonanioun— person and criminalise that behaviour and— person and criminalise that behaviour and give the police the behaviour and give the police to ponon— behaviour and give the police to ponon ot— behaviour and give the police the power of arrest, even if tney— the power of arrest, even if tnoy suspect— the power of arrest, even if they suspect you might be going to-younsoit— they suspect you might be going to yourself another to attach yourself to another poson— to attach yourself to another ponson—ntgn- to attach yourself to another person,_right toi person, where's the right to pnotest— person, where's the right to protest left? _ person, where's the right to protest left? what's left? if you— protest left? what's left? if you cant— protest left? what's left? if you can't even— protest left? what's left? if you can't even attach yourself to-ponson— you can't even attach yourself to-ponson as- you can't even attach yourself to-person as part- you can't even attach yourself to person as part of a to another person as part of a pnoteste— to another person as part of a pnotoste i— to another person as part of a protest? i mean,— to another person as part of a protest? i mean, just protest? i mean, it's just iutionous— protest? i mean, it's just ludicrous. but- protest? i mean, it's just ludicrous. but in of protest? i mean, it's just- ludicrous. but in-of the ludicrous. but in terms of the ponso— ludicrous. but in terms of the poiioo-to— ludicrous. but in terms of the poiioo-to tne- police approach to the coronation— police approach to the coronation it's all very well sonting— coronation it's all very well sending someone round say , sending someone round to say, days— sending someone round to say, days-coronation- sending someone round to say, days-coronation to. sending someone round to say, days coronation to a days after the coronation to a itoputiioan— days after the coronation to a republican protest group where, sonny,— republican protest group where, sonny, you— republican protest group where, sorry, you couldn't— republican protest group where, sorry, you couldn't join the pnotost. — sorry, you couldn't join the protest. well— sorry, you couldn't join the protest. well when they protest. well when are they going— protest. well when are they going-anotnon- protest. well when are they going-another to going to get another chance to pnotest— going to get another chance to pnotost—nononi protest the coronation? never again— protest the coronation? never again .— protest the coronation? never again . not— protest the coronation? never again . not-for- protest the coronation? never again . not for many, many again. not not for many, many yoans— again. not not for many, many yoans .— again. not not for many, many yoans . nnt— again. not not for many, many yoans . nnt-it— again. not not for many, many years . and it hardly makes up years. and so it hardly makes up for years. and so it hardly makes up ton tne— years. and so it hardly makes up ton to tast— years. and so it hardly makes up for the fact that— years. and so it hardly makes up for the fact that this group, nnion— for the fact that this group, nnionlsot— for the fact that this group, which set specifically to which is set up specifically to pnotest— which is set up specifically to protest against— which is set up specifically to protest against the monarchy, was prevented— protest against the monarchy, was prevented from doing so on the was prevented from doing so on to tony— was prevented from doing so on to nony nay— was prevented from doing so on the very day that— was prevented from doing so on the very day that a— was prevented from doing so on the very day that a coronation taking— the very day that a coronation was taking place _ the very day that a coronation was taking place .— the very day that a coronation was taking place . an absolute was taking place. an absolute outage— was taking place. an absolute outnago ant—
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was taking place. an absolute outrage and all— was taking place. an absolute outrage and all of the stuff about— outrage and all of the stuff about worrying— outrage and all of the stuff about worrying about intelligence, about rape alarms ant— intelligence, about rape alarms and-etcetera,- intelligence, about rape alarms and etcetera, that's and horses, etcetera, that's goat.— and horses, etcetera, that's gnoat. nnt— and horses, etcetera, that's gnoat. one in— and horses, etcetera, that's great. and i'm sure that some of tnat—suno- great. and i'm sure that some of that—sure that. that is true. and i'm sure that even— that is true. and i'm sure that onony singio— that is true. and i'm sure that every single public protest, tnono— every single public protest, there-concerns- every single public protest, there concerns or there are concerns or intelligence - there are concerns or intelligence or calls made intelligence or phone calls made to tne— intelligence or phone calls made to tie potioo— intelligence or phone calls made to the police to— intelligence or phone calls made to the police to suggest that peopie— to the police to suggest that people-violent- to the police to suggest that people violent or people will be violent or tisnuptino. — people will be violent or disruptive. the difference is you— disruptive. the difference is you-aount- disruptive. the difference is you around arresting you don't go around arresting anot— you don't go around arresting random individuals you random individuals where you nano— random individuals where you have intelligence that those have no intelligence that those intinituais— have no intelligence that those individuals are— have no intelligence that those individuals are going to commit an ast— individuals are going to commit an act ot— individuals are going to commit an act of violence— individuals are going to commit an act of violence or an act of . nne— an act of violence or an act of serious . are they- an act of violence or an act of serious . are they are- an act of violence or an act of serious . ”iii: 311i: serious. are they are they the police, the police would say, yeah, i get that. but the police nouit— yeah, i get that. but the police nouit say— yeah, i get that. but the police nouit say to— yeah, i get that. but the police would say to that,— yeah, i get that. but the police would say to that, that- gig but the police would say to that, that and indeed— would say to that, that and indeed tney— would say to that, that and indeed they are— would say to that, that and indeed they are saying that nignt— indeed they are saying that nignt-up- indeed they are saying that nignt-up to- indeed they are saying that right up to this. indeed they are saying that. right-up to this. so right in the run up to this. so tongot— right in the run up to this. so forget-initial- forget about the initial interaction _ forget about the initial interaction had with interaction they'd had with itopuitio— interaction they'd had with. republic—stuff, republic and all of that stuff, nignt. — republic and all of that stuff, nignt. ltno— republic and all of that stuff, nigntltno-up- republic and all of that stuff, right. .the .up to - republic and all of that stuff, right. the up to this, republic and all of that stuff, righsituation up to this, republic and all of that stuff, righsituation had jp to this, republic and all of that stuff, righsituation had changed. that the situation had changed. that is-tiant— the situation had changed. that is-mark rowley— the situation had changed. that is-mark rowley is- the situation had changed. that is mark rowley is saying is what mark rowley is saying nignt— is what mark rowley is saying nignt non— is what mark rowley is saying nignt nnt— is what mark rowley is saying right now. and they were getting signitioant— right now. and they were getting significant—about. right now. and they were getting sigiof cant—about. right now. and they were getting sigiof cant and about right now. and they were getting sigiof cant and they about right now. and they were getting sigiof cant and they wouldtut all of this and they would pnosunatiy— presumably argue, chris, that some—put- presumably argue, chris, that- some_put themselves presumably argue, chris, that- so a e _ put themselves presumably argue, chris, that so a position put themselves presumably argue, chris, that so a position unfortunateemselves presumably argue, chris, that so a position unfortunate albie,tes in a position unfortunate albie, but in a position unfortunate albie, tut-tooauso— in a position unfortunate albie, but-becauselthe- in a position unfortunate albie, but because the fault but maybe because of the fault of but maybe because of the fault ot—nono- but maybe because of the fault. of_were around of others where they were around peopie— of others where they were around poopio tnat— of others where they were around poopio tnat tno — of others where they were around people that the police believed were _cause the - were going to cause the potontiai— were going to cause the- potential—damage were going to cause the- potential_damage to potential for serious damage to nunan— potential for serious damage to nunan tite— potential for serious damage to nunan iito at— potential for serious damage to human life at the— potential for serious damage to human life at the coronation and tnonotono— human life at the coronation and therefore-acted— human life at the coronation and therefore acted whilst it therefore they acted whilst it nignt— therefore they acted whilst it nignt nano— therefore they acted whilst it might have been unfortunate
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tonants— might have been unfortunate towards individuals for the towards some individuals for the gnoaton— towards some individuals for the gnoaton-ant— towards some individuals for the greater-and-don't- towards some individuals for the greater and don't think greater good and you don't think most— greater good and you don't think most peopie— greater good and you don't think most people would be on board nitn— most people would be on board nitn-i— most people would be on board nitn-i nope— most people would be on board with-i hope not. - most people would be on board with-i hope not. i- most people would be on board with-i hope not. i hopel with that? i hope not. i hope we're on board with the idea we're not on board with the idea that because happen to that just because you happen to be some people, that be near to some people, that there's intelligence of there's some intelligence of some that you could some kind about that you could be arrested be rounded up, arrested and taken police station , even taken to a police station, even if you've done nothing wrong, have doing have no intention of doing anything kind of anything wrong. what kind of country sort of free country is that sort of free country? that's how they organise demonstrations. you organise demonstrations. do you want do? just want them to do? just practically want them to do? just- practically _very, practically though, it's very, tony— practically though, it's very, . tony—got very difficult cause you've got tnis—it-s- very difficult cause you've got tnis—its aii| this crowd of people, it's all noting— this crowd of people, it's all gang-gay,— this crowd of people, it's all kicking-say, you - this crowd of people, it's all kicking say, you know, you kicking off, say, you know, you tnon— kicking off, say, you know, you tnon-ano— kicking off, say, you know, you know, - are - people i know, there are some people in tnono—as- know, there are some people in. there—as indeed there with rape alarms as indeed tney— there with rape alarms as indeed tney-nono— there with rape alarms as indeed tney-none ant- there with rape alarms as indeed they-were and tens- there with rape alarms as indeed they were and tens of they say they were and tens of pain.— they say they were and tens of pain. tney— they say they were and tens of pain. they haven't— they say they were and tens of pain. they haven't time to pain. they haven't got time to go-onony— pain. they haven't got time toi go-onony-ponson. go through every single person. nnt—tnon- go through every single person. nnt—tnon it,- go through every single person. and—know it, you. and before you know it, you tnon— and before you know it, you know, ting— and before you know it, you know, king charles is carriage nas— know, king charles is carriage. nas—tno has been damaged or one of the noss— has been damaged or one of the nonos—nnt,- horses is trampled. and, you tnon— horses is trampled. and, you know,-dorothy- know, poor old dorothy from nunnont— know, poor old dorothy fromi number—mean, know, poor old dorothy from - number—mean, what number 42 to death. i mean, what do number 42 to death. i mean, what to you— number 42 to death. i mean, what to you want— number 42 to death. i mean, what do you want them— number 42 to death. i mean, what do you want them to— number 42 to death. i mean, what do you want them to do? well nnat— do you want them to do? well nnat i— do you want them to do? well nnat i want— do you want them to do? well what i want-to- do you want them to do? well what i want-to do- do you want them to do? well what i want to do is i want what i want them to do is i want tnon— what i want them to do is i want tion to— what i want them to do is i want tion to ast— what i want them to do is i want them to act proportionately and pnoponiy—to- them to act proportionately and pnoponiy—to tno- properly in response to the tonanioun— properly in response to the behaviour individuals are behaviour of individuals who are tnono— behaviour of individuals who are there intelligence. there is reliable intelligence. tney-ne— there is reliable intelligence. j they're—something they're going to do something wrong, way they're going to do something wrong is way they're going to do something wrong is obviously way they're going to do something wrong is obviously a way they're going to do something wrong is obviously a risk way they're going to do something wrong is obviously a risk to way which is obviously a risk to the public. and if as chris daw public. and if i, as chris daw or or any of your other or you or any of your other viewers minding own
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viewers are minding their own business, lawfully protesting, holding up a banner saying, not my whatever they wanted my king or whatever they wanted to leave them alone. that's to do, leave them alone. that's what free country is about what a free country is all about . and you respond then, . and how do you respond then, to tno— . and how do you respond then, to tne-tnat— . and how do you respond then, to the-that another- and how do you respond then, to the that another big to the idea that another big pari— to the idea that another big pant-society- to the idea that another big part society here is, you part of our society here is, you tnon— part of our society here is, you know, democracy— part of our society here is, you know, democracy and the way that the know, democracy and the way that tne-ano — know, democracy and the way that tne-ano naae— know, democracy and the way that the-are made and— know, democracy and the way that the are made and they the laws are made and they passed— the laws are made and they passed through— the laws are made and they passed through parliament, otootona— passed through parliament, etcetera. .when- passed through parliament, etcetera. when it comes to etcetera. and when it comes to tnings— etcetera. and when it comes to tnings-putiio— etcetera. and when it comes to things public order things like public order ottonoos— offences as well, they are iangoiy— offences as well, they are largely voted _ offences as well, they are largely voted on. so, i mean largely voted on. and so, i mean , you— largely voted on. and so, i mean , you noaiiy— largely voted on. and so, i mean , are you really saying then tnat— , are you really saying then tnat you— , are you really saying then that you would _ , are you really saying then that you would like that oontunn— that you would like that oontunn i— that you would like that overturn i mean , our overturn i mean, our democratically elected politicians— democratically elected politicians on this stuff, politicians vote on this stuff, ton-t— politicians vote on this stuff, ton-t-noii— politicians vote on this stuff, don't-well the - politicians vote on this stuff, don't well the parliament don't they? well the parliament passot— don't they? well the parliament passed to — don't they? well the parliament passed the public— don't they? well the parliament passed the public order act. nou-ne— passed the public order act. nou-ne gutte— passed the public order act. you're quite right.— passed the public order act. you're quite right. and- passed the public order act. you're quite right. and the regulations were brought in and they you they were rushed through, as you know, four before know, four days before the coronation police coronation to give the police these arrest people these powers to arrest people for doing things which traditionally have been the right every british person right of every british person who to protest against who wishes to protest against government policy. they've been who wishes to protest against goveri away policy. they've been who wishes to protest against goveri away bytlicy. they've been who wishes to protest against goveri away by this they've been who wishes to protest against goveri away by this government] taken away by this government. they've away by this they've been taken away by this legislation. and absolutely, you're in a sense you're right that in a sense that's . if you that's democratic. if you believe democratic believe that our democratic process is actually democratic, when only 40% of the population vote the government
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vote for the government of anyone one time, but but anyone at any one time, but but that's whole different issue. that's a whole different issue. of , parliament of course, parliament passed this saying this legislation. i'm saying they were wrong to do so. and i hope next government hope that the next government will it because it's will get rid of it because it's a state of affairs when you a sad state of affairs when you can't britain in a can't protest in britain in a perfectly reasonable, and perfectly reasonable, proper and lawful against the lawful way against against the hereditary monarchy that millions and millions of people believe should have gone. i've millions and millions of people beliaboutiould have gone. i've millions and millions of people beliabout 30s. iave gone. i've millions and millions of people beliabout 30s. i've gone. i've millions and millions of people beliabout 30s. i've gota. i've millions and millions of people beliabout 30s. i've got about got about 305. i've got about oes— got about 305. i've got about its cnnis— got about 305. i've got about its cnnis to— got about 305. i've got about 30s. chris, do you— git 505 i've got about 30s. chris, do you blame the potioo— 30s. chris, do you blame the poiioo oo— 30s. chris, do you blame the police more or— 30s. chris, do you blame the police more or the government none-piano— police more or the government more-blame the- police more or the government. more-blame the government more? i blame the government more? i blame the government more because they brought in the legislation. feel sorry for legislation. i feel sorry for the police having deal with the police having to deal with it. but nevertheless it. so quickly, but nevertheless they have what they shouldn't have done what they shouldn't have done what they did. chris thank chris they did. chris thank you. chris de they did. chris thank you. chris oo—autnon- de barrister and author of tustioo— de barrister and author of iustioo on— de barrister and author of justice on trial.- de barrister and author of justice on trial. right. you're nitn— justice on trial. right. you're with _christys,. justice on trial. right. you're. with _christys, right with me, patrick christys, right nono— with me, patrick christys, right none—oont- with me, patrick christys, right none—oon-t go- here on gb news. don't go anyniono— anywhere. more rip roaring coverage the coverage coming your way in the next— coverage coming your way in the next noun.— coverage coming your way in the next noun-nono- coverage coming your way in the next hour.-more to- coverage coming your way in the next hour. more to bring next hour. plenty more to bring you.— next hour. plenty more to bring you-going— next hour. plenty more to bring you-going to— next hour. plenty more to bring you-going to to— next hour. plenty more to bring you. going to be talking, of you. i'm going to be talking, of course, about— you. i'm going to be talking, of course, about latest in that course, about the latest in that ting— course, about the latest in that ting-attogotiy- course, about the latest in that ding allegedly between ding dong row allegedly between ionis— ding dong row allegedly between ions-ant— ding dong row allegedly between boris-and-then- boris johnson and the then itinoo— boris johnson and the then prince _whose- boris johnson and the then. prince _whose-are prince charles. whose side are you— prince charles. whose side are youo—o— prince charles. whose side are youo—o tno- prince charles. whose side are you over the rwanda you on? it was over the rwanda pian—onl plan. i'm patrick christys on gb nons— plan. i'm patrick christys on gb
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channel well, a i channel. well, a very i channel- well, a very good |cnannei— well, a very good afternoon, ononypoty. — well, a very good afternoon, ononypoty. its— well, a very good afternoon, everybody. it'sjust well, a very good afternoon, everybody. it's just about to 90-— everybody. it's just about to go. tonn— everybody. it's just about to go. ooon pm.— everybody. it's just about to go. £0.04 pm. i'm patrick cnnistys— go. £0.04 pm. i'm patrick christys and— go. £0.04 pm. i'm patrick christys and here is what i've got— christys and here is what i've got ooning— christys and here is what i've got coming-nay- christys and here is what i've got coming way on gb news got coming our way on gb news tnis— got coming our way on gb news tnis noun.— got coming our way on gb news this hour.-rumble,- this hour. so royal rumble, supposotiy— this hour. so royal rumble,- supposedly—squared supposedly boris johnson squared up to— supposedly boris johnson squared up to tno— supposedly boris johnson squared up to tie tnon— supposedly boris johnson squared up to the then prince charles atten— up to the then prince charles atton itinoo— up to the then prince charles after prince charles said that he after prince charles said that no tnougnt— after prince charles said that he thought the— after prince charles said that he thought the rwanda deportation— he thought the rwanda deportation scheme was appaiiing— deportation scheme was appalling. whose side are you one— appalling. whose side are you one in— appalling. whose side are you on? i'm asking.— appalling. whose side are you on? i'm asking. we've got a initton— on? i'm asking. we've got a initton poti— on? i'm asking. we've got a twitter poll on— on? i'm asking. we've got a twitter poll on this now and gb nons— twitter poll on this now and gb tons on— twitter poll on this now and gb news on twitter. _ twitter poll on this now and gb news on twitter. is— twitter poll on this now and gb news on twitter. is it boris ionnson— news on twitter. is it boris ionnson on— news on twitter. is it boris johnson or is— news on twitter. is it boris johnson or is it— news on twitter. is it boris johnson or is it the now king cnaniose— johnson or is it the now king eggpga 0n— johnson or is it the now king charles? on that— johnson or is it the now king charles? on that note, though, the charles? on that note, though, to nignant— charles? on that note, though, the migrant barge has arrived. yest— the migrant barge has arrived. nos tnat-s— the migrant barge has arrived. yes, that's right,— the migrant barge has arrived. yes, that's right, ladies and gontionon— yes, that's right, ladies and- gentlemen,-stockholm gentlemen, the bibby stockholm is gentlemen, the bibby stockholm _isnatos — gentlemen, the bibby stockholm is_waters..will- is now in uk waters. it will be noating— is now in uk waters. it will be heading-dorset- is now in uk waters. it will be heading dorset very, heading towards dorset very, tony— heading towards dorset very, nony snotty,— heading towards dorset very, very shortly, but— heading towards dorset very, very shortly, but it's only going— very shortly, but it's only going-house- very shortly, but it's only going house 500 people. is going to house 500 people. is tnat— going to house 500 people. is tnat onougne— going to house 500 people. is that enough? what else be that enough? what else can be tone?— that enough? what else can be tonoe-toos— that enough? what else can be done?-does come- that enough? what else can be done? does come amid done? and it does come amid a taottnop— done? and it does come amid a taottnop ot— done? and it does come amid a backdrop of migration backdrop of net migration tigunos— backdrop of net migration figures._side| backdrop of net migration. figures._side of figures. so the legal side of tits— figures. so the legal side of tits-going— figures. so the legal side of this-goingltop- figures. so the legal side of this-goingltop .- this now going to top. sugposedly- this now going to top. supposedly 675,000 people double all supposedly 675,000 people double aii tno— supposedly 675,000 people double at to pno— supposedly 675,000 people double all the pre brexit— supposedly 675,000 people double all the pre brexit peak who'd nano— all the pre brexit peak who'd nano tnougnt— all the pre brexit peak who'd have thought it?— all the pre brexit peak who'd have thought it? hey and moving
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on. have thought it? hey and moving so— have thought it? hey and moving on. so we're also— have thought it? hey and moving on. so we're also going to be taking— on. so we're also going to be taiting as— on. so we're also going to be talking as well— on. so we're also going to be talking as well about this. nono— talking as well about this. tie-no nat— talking as well about this. we've had gp— talking as well about this. we've had gp reforms when it comes-services- we've had gp reforms when it comes-services at. we've had gp reforms when it comes services at gp comes to phone services at gp pnaotisos— comes to phone services at gp pnaotisos to — comes to phone services at gp practises to make— comes to phone services at gp practises to make your life ant— practises to make your life easier and take— practises to make your life easier and take the burden off tnon. — easier and take the burden off them. pharmacists are now going to_prescriptions. them. pharmacists are now going to|a_prescriptions. them. pharmacists are now going to a variety prescriptions them. pharmacists are now going to a variety of prescriptions them. pharmacists are now going to a variety of different ptions for a variety of different aiinonts— for a variety of different ailments _takel ailments again to take the onion— ailments again to take the onion-ens— ailments again to take the burden-gps .- ailments again to take the burden gps . but all of that burden off gps. but all of that nony— burden off gps. but all of that nnony i— burden off gps. but all of that nnony iiust— burden off gps. but all of that money, i just wonder, could it nano—empioyingl money, i just wonder, could it. have _employing more have been spent employing more ens— have been spent employing more ens-i— have been spent employing more ens-i say— have been spent employing more ens-i say it,— have been spent employing more ens-i say it, to— have been spent employing more gps i say it, do some gps or dare i say it, do some ens— gps or dare i say it, do some ens nood— gps or dare i say it, do some ens need to— gps or dare i say it, do some gps need to pull— gps or dare i say it, do some gps need to pull their finger out-nont— gps need to pull their finger out-work harder- gps need to pull their finger out work harder and work out and work harder and work iongon— out and work harder and work nnge-.— out and work harder and work longer-, moving- out and work harder and work longer , moving on, we're longer anyway, moving on, we're aiso— longer anyway, moving on, we're aiso going— longer anyway, moving on, we're also going-talking,- longer anyway, moving on, we're also going talking, of also going to be talking, of course, about— also going to be talking, of course, about this now, the met poise.— course, about this now, the met poise-is— course, about this now, the met police. is incredibly police. this is incredibly contentious.— police. this is incredibly- contentious-expressed contentious. they've expressed nognot—poopioi regret not for arresting people at—tut- regret not for arresting people at_but becausej at the coronation but because tnoso— at the coronation but because tnoso-nno— at the coronation but because those _who-did. at the coronation but because. those _who-did arrest those people who they did arrest nissot— those people who they did arrest nissot tnein— those people who they did arrest missed their right— those people who they did arrest missed their right to demonstrate missed their right to- demonstrate-coronation. demonstrate at the coronation. vony—tag- demonstrate at the coronation. vony—tag .- demonstrate at the coronation. vony—tag . inisi demonstrate at the coronation.- very_bag . this mark very much a mixed bag. this mark itonioy— very much a mixed bag. this mark itonioyltop— very much a mixed bag. this mark itonioyltop-tno- very much a mixed bag. this mark rowley, top the met, rowley, the top cop at the met, nas— rowley, the top cop at the met, nas-ant— rowley, the top cop at the met, nas-ant sait- rowley, the top cop at the met, has-and said, look,. rowley, the top cop at the met, has and said, look, we has come out and said, look, we nisn— has come out and said, look, we nisn no— has come out and said, look, we nisn no oouit— has come out and said, look, we wish we could tell— has come out and said, look, we wish we could tell you ononytning— wish we could tell you everything we knew wish we could tell you- everything-we knew about everything that we knew about tno— everything that we knew about tnis.—tnougn- everything that we knew about tits—tnougn l everything that we knew about this._though , as this. some people, though, as you— this. some people, though, as you pust— this. some people, though, as you iust noant— this. some people, though, as you just heard from a chap at tno— you just heard from a chap at tne-ot— you just heard from a chap at tne-oi tno— you just heard from a chap at the-of the last- you just heard from a chap at the of the last hour who is the end of the last hour who is a-no-s— the end of the last hour who is a-no-s a— the end of the last hour who is a-no-s a kc,- the end of the last hour who is a-he's a kc, he- the end of the last hour who is a-he's a kc, he was. a barrister, he's a kc, he was saying— a barrister, he's a kc, he was saying tney-no— a barrister, he's a kc, he was saying they've acted incorrectly ant—tat— saying they've acted incorrectly ant—tat .— saying they've acted incorrectly ant—tat . nnt- saying they've acted incorrectly and bad . and what and the law is bad. and what nit— and the law is bad. and what nit-moan— and the law is bad. and what will-mean.you- will this mean for you potentially— will this mean for you potentially going forward? will this mean for you potentialljyou ng forward? will this mean for you potentialljyou want rward? will this mean for you potentialljyou want to ird? will this mean for you potentialljyou want to protest ? whenever you want to protest? toot, — whenever you want to protest? look, controversial question
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tnis— look, controversial question tits-it— look, controversial question tnis-ittno- look, controversial question this,-if the met. look, controversial question this, if the met did this, but even if the met did nayto— this, but even if the met did nayto ast— this, but even if the met did nayto act in— this, but even if the met did maybe act in a— this, but even if the met did maybe act in a bit of a heavy nantot—you- maybe act in a bit of a heavy. handed _you actually handed manner, do you actually noaiiy—younl really care? because was your main— really care? because was your toous— really care? because was your toous on— really care? because was your main focus on coronation not main focus on the coronation not being—nit- main focus on the coronation not being—nit ot| being disrupted anyway? all of tnat— being disrupted anyway? all of tnat ooning— being disrupted anyway? all of that coming your— being disrupted anyway? all of that coming your way. i'm much, nuon— that coming your way. i'm much, nuon-tnn— that coming your way. i'm much, much _this hour— that coming your way. i'm much, much this hour with me much more this hour with me nation— much more this hour with me patrick christys— much more this hour with me patrick christys .— much more this hour with me patrick christys . yeah, loads on patrick christys. yeah, loads on the patrick christys. yeah, loads on to agonta— patrick christys. yeah, loads on the agenda today. _ patrick christys. yeah, loads on the agenda today. take part in tnat— the agenda today. take part in tnat poti— the agenda today. take part in tnat poii. i— the agenda today. take part in that poll. i want— the agenda today. take part in that poll. i want to know nnotnon— that poll. i want to know whether or— that poll. i want to know whether or not- that poll. i want to know whether or not your team, boris tonnson— whether or not your team, boris ionnson on— whether or not your team, boris johnson or team— whether or not your team, boris johnson or team king charles, nnon— johnson or team king charles, nnen-to— johnson or team king charles, nnen-to tno- johnson or team king charles, when to the rwanda plan when it comes to the rwanda plan being— when it comes to the rwanda plan gang, guoto— when it comes to the rwanda plan being, quote, appalling. vaiews@gbnews.uk email vaiews@gbnews.uk is our email attnoss— vaiews@gbnews.uk is our email annoss-sw— vaiews@gbnews.uk is our email address. shy. email in, address. don't be shy. email in, get address. don't be shy. email in, got—tno— address. don't be shy. email in, got—tne toiiy. - address. don't be shy. email in, get—the telly. but. get yourself on the telly. but nignt— get yourself on the telly. but nignt-youn- get yourself on the telly. but right your headlines as right now it's your headlines as . nation— right now it's your headlines as . patrick thank— right now it's your headlines as . patrick thank you and good attonnoon— . patrick thank you and good afternoon to— . patrick thank you and good afternoon to you. oi. " . patrick thank you and good afternoon to you. oi ” siting afternoon to you. our top story on gb news today, the information commissioner's office says it won't be taking any action against lancashire police over the disclosure of nicola bullies personal information. the force came under criticism after the 45 year old's body was discovered in the river wyre in february. follow a three week search.
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meanwhile the police watchdog, the independent office for police conduct, also says it's identified two areas of learning after the force had contact with nicola bully in the days before she went missing . an independent she went missing. an independent review by the college of policing into the handling of the case is also underway with findings and recommendations due to be published in the autumn . to be published in the autumn. now, as you've been hearing, the met police commissioner has defended his force's policing of the coronation after some criticism for the arrest of six protesters. ahead of the event. sir mark rowley described the arrests as unfortunate but stressed he supports the arresting officer's actions. the force confirmed the individuals face no further action after being stopped under the new pubuc being stopped under the new public order act. the prime minister has today also said he supports people's right to protest, but says the new laws were needed to protect against serious disruption . in other serious disruption. in other news today, pharmacists will be given more powers to give prescription medicines without a
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gp sign off in the latest government plans to ease the pressure on doctors . under the pressure on doctors. under the measures, patients will be able to get treatments for seven common conditions, including a sore throat and ear infections without seeing a doctor. it's hoped the new guidelines, which will come into place this winter, will free up 15 million appointments at surgeries over the next two years. the prime minister rishi sunak says the measures will also help cut waiting times for those seeking medical help. 80% of the country tines— medical help. 80% of the country iinos about— medical help. 80% of the country lives about 20— medical help. 80% of the country lives about 20 minutes— pptiit: tip 80% of the country lives about 20 minutes walk from a pnannaoy— lives about 20 minutes walk from a pnannaoy ant— lives about 20 minutes walk from a pharmacy and for— lives about 20 minutes walk from a pharmacy and for many people tnono— a pharmacy and for many people tnono ao— a pharmacy and for many people there are easier— a pharmacy and for many people there are easier place to access tnan— there are easier place to access tnan tnein— there are easier place to access than their surgery.— there are easier place to access than their surgery. that's why we're investing— than their surgery. that's why we're investing more in them and aiioning— we're investing more in them and aiioning tnon— we're investing more in them and allowing them to— we're investing more in them and allowing them to do more. and it's allowing them to do more. and its-nono— allowing them to do more. and it's more medicines it's not just more medicines tnat— it's not just more medicines tnat-nit— it's not just more medicines that-will be- it's not just more medicines that will be able it's not just more medicines. that-will be able-get that people will be able to get tnono— that people will be able to get tnono. tney-ii— that people will be able to get there. they'll-to - that people will be able to get there. they'll to get there. they'll be able to get more-pressure- there. they'll be able to get more pressure checks or more blood pressure checks or indeed— more blood pressure checks or intoot—as- more blood pressure checks or indeed—as well.| more blood pressure checks or. indeed—as well. so indeed contraception as well. so expanding— indeed contraception as well. so we're expanding range of we're expanding the range of sonioos—goti services that people can get tnon— services that people can get from pharmacies. that's from their pharmacies. that's good. — from their pharmacies. that's good. lniii— from their pharmacies. that's good. will pressure good. it will ease pressure on tno— good. it will ease pressure on tne-moan— good. it will ease pressure on the-mean that- good. it will ease pressure on the mean that people can the system. mean that people can get the system. mean that people can got-to— the system. mean that people can got-to-noaitn- the system. mean that people can get-to-health care- get access to the health care tney— get access to the health care tney-guioton. - get access to the health care they quicker. and it backs they need quicker. and it backs all they need quicker. and it backs aii oun— they need quicker. and it backs all our fantastic— they need quicker. and it backs all our fantastic pharmacies as noti— all our fantastic pharmacies as noii-tunting-
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all our fantastic pharmacies as well-funding. - all our fantastic pharmacies as| well-funding. nhs all our fantastic pharmacies as- well-funding. nhs gp well with extra funding. nhs gp anita— well with extra funding. nhs gp anita tap-a— well with extra funding. nhs gp anita raja told— well with extra funding. nhs gp anita raja told us she's sceptical , though, about the new sceptical, though, about the new plans. you sceptical, though, about the new plans . you know, and i know that plans. you know, and i know that at tno— plans. you know, and i know that at to nnonnont— plans. you know, and i know that at the moment there _ you know, and i know that at the moment there are so many nuntnots— at the moment there are so many nuntnots ot— at the moment there are so many hundreds of pharmacies have ainoaiy— hundreds of pharmacies have already closed— hundreds of pharmacies have already closed down. i mean, you tnon— already closed down. i mean, you know, ty— already closed down. i mean, you know, by tno— already closed down. i mean, you know, by the time— already closed down. i mean, you know, by the time this is going to to— know, by the time this is going to be implemented, we may not nano—us.- to be implemented, we may not nano—us sol have a pharmacy near us. so ononypoty— have a pharmacy near us. so everybody-under- have a pharmacy near us. so everybody under of everybody is under a lot of pnossuo so— everybody is under a lot of pressure. so need to really, pressure. so we need to really, noaiiy— pressure. so we need to really, .ggpg, noaiiy— pressure. so we need to really, really, really work— pressure. so we need to really, really, really work towards capacity,— really, really work towards capacity, capacity , retrain, capacity, capacity, retrain, noonuit— capacity, capacity, retrain, recruit and,— capacity, capacity, retrain, recruit and, you know, and value youn— recruit and, you know, and value youn neattn— recruit and, you know, and value your health care— recruit and, you know, and value your health care staff . now, the your health care staff. now, the tone— your health care staff. now, the tonnnon itine— your health care staff. now, the former prime minister of pakistan— former prime minister of pakistan has— former prime minister of pakistan has been arrested by anti—corruption— pakistan has been arrested by anti—corruption police in islam . anat— anti—corruption police in islam . anat anu— anti—corruption police in islam . abad and his— anti—corruption police in islam . abad and his supporters are being told to shut down the country . footage shows country. footage shows paramilitary troops in riot gear surrounding the former cricketer inside what looks like a courtroom . the move has led to courtroom. the move has led to protests in mr khan's hometown of lahore , and members of his of lahore, and members of his political party are calling now for support. imran khan was ousted from power in a parliamentary vote in april last year and the prime minister has
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rejected claims made by the russian president that the west is to blame for the war in ukraine. rishi sunak says president putin is the only person responsible for the invasion that he's called illegal and unprovoked. it follows comments made by vladimir putin during a speech made at the annual victory day parade in russia , where he parade in russia, where he claimed the so—called real war was being waged and his country was being waged and his country was simply defending its sovereignty like the western global elites still preach about their exceptionalism . they're their exceptionalism. they're pitting their exceptionalism. they're pitting pimple— their exceptionalism. they're pitting people against- . i they're pitting people against each one— pitting people against each otnon ant— pitting people against each other and dividing society , other and dividing society, pnonoting— other and dividing society, provoking conflicts and coups, soning— provoking conflicts and coups, sowing hatred— provoking conflicts and coups, sowing hatred .— provoking conflicts and coups, sowing hatred . russophobia, sowing hatred. russophobia, aggnossino— sowing hatred. russophobia, aggressive nationalist ism, and tostnoying— aggressive nationalist ism, and tostnoying tno— aggressive nationalist ism, and destroying the traditional taniiy— destroying the traditional family values— destroying the traditional family values that make people peopie— family values that make people poopio tney— family values that make people poopio tnoy soo— family values that make people people they seem to have tongotton— people they seem to have forgotten what— people they seem to have forgotten what the claim to none— forgotten what the claim to world supremacy led to forgotten nno— world supremacy led to forgotten nno totoatot— world supremacy led to forgotten who defeated this— world supremacy led to forgotten who defeated this horrible total ont— who defeated this horrible total at, nno— who defeated this horrible total evil, who stood— who defeated this horrible total evil, who stood up— who defeated this horrible total evil, who stood up for their nonoiant— evil, who stood up for their homeland and— evil, who stood up for their homeland and did not spare their
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tines— homeland and did not spare their iinos ton— homeland and did not spare their iinos ton tno— homeland and did not spare their lives for the people of europe . lives for the people of europe. iteanniiio— lives for the people of europe. meanwhile, european- lives for the people of europe. meanwhile, european commission president ursula von der leyen is in kyiv in ukraine for talks with president volodymyr zelenskyy. her arrival comes after russia fired cruise missile strikes in ukraine this morning. smoke trails from explosions have been seen over the capital kyiv , with local the capital kyiv, with local officials saying their air defences systems shot down most of the missiles . now here at of the missiles. now here at home, a marine barge which will be used to house migrants has arrived in uk waters. it's called the bibby stockholm. it docked in falmouth this morning to be refurbished ahead of its use as a housing centre. the three storey barge will be used for at least 18 months and can hold up to 500 people as they wait for their asylum claims to be processed. it's part of a government scheme to move asylum seekers away from costly hotel accommodation . and lastly, accommodation. and lastly, ambulance workers in the
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south—east are on strike again today as their union escalates its industrial action over pay. unite's members employed at south central and south east coast ambulance service nhs trusts will strike until 10:00 tonight. last month, members rejected the government's offer of a lump sum cash payment and a 5% pay rise. members of other health unions accepted the same offer . us gb health unions accepted the same offer. us gb news more news as it happens. now back to . it happens. now back to. patrick right now it sounds like the ultimate . right now it sounds like the ultimate clash— ultimate clash between crown and paniianont—spin- parliament this so former spin tooton— parliament this so former spin doctor-johnson- parliament this so former spin doctor johnson says doctor to boris johnson says tnat— doctor to boris johnson says tnat-itine- doctor to boris johnson says that prime minister that the then prime minister sguanot— that the then prime minister sguanot-tno- that the then prime minister squared the then prince squared up to the then prince cnanios. — squared up to the then prince cnanios. its— squared up to the then prince charles. it's amazing how times onango— charles. it's amazing how times onango so— charles. it's amazing how times change so quickly,— charles. it's amazing how times change so quickly, isn't but change so quickly, isn't it? but tnis— change so quickly, isn't it? but tnislatton— change so quickly, isn't it? but this-after the _ change so quickly, isn't it? but this-after the now- change so quickly, isn't it? but this after the now king this is after the now king cnanios— this is after the now king charles criticised the rwanda notugoo — charles criticised the rwanda notugoo pian— charles criticised the rwanda refugee plan at— charles criticised the rwanda refugee plan at the commonwealth sunnit— refugee plan at the commonwealth sunnitlzozz— refugee plan at the commonwealth summit-2022. .why-
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refugee plan at the commonwealth summit 2022. why is this summit in 2022. but why is this oniy— summit in 2022. but why is this oniy ooning— summit in 2022. but why is this oniy oonning to— summit in 2022. but why is this only coming to light now? well, nunnont— only coming to light now? well, nut ion-s— only coming to light now? well, number ten's former director of communications— number ten's former director of communications harry, communications guitar harry, says— communications guitar harry, says-nont- communications guitar harry, says-nont in- communications guitar harry, says went in quite says that boris went in quite tant— says that boris went in quite nant against— says that boris went in quite hard against the— says that boris went in quite hard against the then prince of inatos— hard against the then prince of naios ant— hard against the then prince of wales and boris— hard against the then prince of wales and boris supposedly nospontot— wales and boris supposedly responded and— wales and boris supposedly responded and disputed his long standing— responded and disputed his long standing allies— responded and disputed his long standing allies account, though as inaccurate— standing allies account, though as inaccurate ,_ standing allies account, though as inaccurate , with a source as inaccurate, with a source saying— as inaccurate, with a source saying tnat— as inaccurate, with a source saying tnat no— as inaccurate, with a source saying that he deplores any oonnontany— saying that he deplores any commentary about conversations nitn— commentary about conversations nitn tno— commentary about conversations win to itoyais— commentary about conversations with the royals .— commentary about conversations with the royals . and as if it with the royals. and as if it count— with the royals. and as if it count got— with the royals. and as if it couldn't get any— with the royals. and as if it couldn't get any feistier, mr nanny— couldn't get any feistier, mr nanny says— couldn't get any feistier, mr harry says that— couldn't get any feistier, mr harry says that the meeting was toss— harry says that the meeting was toss tnan— harry says that the meeting was less than amicable, claiming tnat— less than amicable, claiming tnat-pain— less than amicable, claiming that pair clashed the that the pair clashed over the itoyais— that the pair clashed over the itoyais-sianony- that the pair clashed over the royals - slavery to i that the pair clashed over the royals slavery to now. royals views on slavery to now. inis— royals views on slavery to now. its is— royals views on slavery to now. this is fascinating. _ royals views on slavery to now. this is fascinating. this is anotnon— this is fascinating. this is another dimension to this supposotiy— another dimension to this supposotiy-toi supposedly, according to this nopont— supposedly, according to this report,-johnson- supposedly, according to this report, johnson advised report, boris johnson advised itinoo— report, boris johnson advised prince charles,— report, boris johnson advised prince charles, as he was then, tnat— prince charles, as he was then, tnat no— prince charles, as he was then, that he shouldn't— prince charles, as he was then, that he shouldn't make any kind of that he shouldn't make any kind ot apoiogios— that he shouldn't make any kind of apologies for— that he shouldn't make any kind of apologies for slavery or anytning— of apologies for slavery or anything like— of apologies for slavery or anything like that because it nouit— anything like that because it nouit teat— anything like that because it would lead calls for would lead to calls for financial— would lead to calls for financial reparations, supposotiy- financial reparations, supposedly the then prince cnanios— supposedly the then prince charles then _ supposedly the then prince charles then went ahead with the spooon — charles then went ahead with the spooon nnone— charles then went ahead with the speech where he— charles then went ahead with the speech where he apologised and now we have a situation, don't we, where there— now we have a situation, don't we, where there are huge calls for financial— we, where there are huge calls for financial reparations. but nnon— for financial reparations. but nnon it— for financial reparations. but when it comes— for financial reparations. but when it comes to the rwanda nsoo— when it comes to the rwanda scheme issue— when it comes to the rwanda nsoo .— when it comes to the rwanda scheme issue , supposedly king scheme issue, supposedly king cnanios— scheme issue, supposedly king cnanios sait— scheme issue, supposedly king charles said that— scheme issue, supposedly king charles said that it was appaiiing— charles said that it was appalling -_ charles said that it was appalling . erg i want to know
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appalling. erg i want to know nnotnon— appalling. erg i want to know nnotnon-youn- appalling. erg i want to know whether your team, boris whether or not your team, boris or whether or not your team, boris on team— whether or not your team, boris on team ting— whether or not your team, boris or team king charles and so far, got— or team king charles and so far, got a— or team king charles and so far, we've got a twitter— or team king charles and so far, we've got a twitter poll on this now:— we've got a twitter poll on this angio— we've got a twitter poll on this angio et— we've got a twitter poll on this now, angie gb news 68.7% of you are now, angie gb news 68.7% of you aooa—t — now, angie gb news 68.7% of you are—team boris.- now, angie gb news 68.7% of you are—team boris. so- are supposedly team boris. so tnono—tnonl are supposedly team boris. so. tnono—tnon nny there we go. i want to know why getting— there we go. i want to know why getting-intox— there we go. i want to know why getting-inbox as— there we go. i want to know why getting inbox as well. getting the inbox as well. gb vions— getting the inbox as well. gb views gbnews.uk. views erg. gbnews.uk. some peopie— views erg. gbnews.uk. some poopnno— views erg. gbnews.uk. some poopnno nas— views erg. gbnews.uk. some pe0|who was going to be our king guy who was going to be our king snouit— guy who was going to be our king snouit not— guy who was going to be our king should not have— guy who was going to be our king should not have been meddling and should not have been meddling ant—nnon- should not have been meddling ant—nnen itl and getting involved when it comes government comes to actual government poiioy— comes to actual government policy pl°p059d_ comes to actual government policy proposed by an incredibly democratically— democratically elected politician _ democratically elected politician .— democratically elected politician . but a huge barge politician. but a huge barge nnion— politician. but a huge barge nnion is— politician. but a huge barge which is set— politician. but a huge barge which is set to— politician. but a huge barge which is set to house hundreds of which is set to house hundreds ot nignants— which is set to house hundreds of migrants-south- which is set to house hundreds of migrants south coast of migrants off the south coast of migrants off the south coast ot ingiant— of migrants off the south coast ot ingiant. so— of migrants off the south coast of england. so this ties in with the of england. so this ties in with tie ott— of england. so this ties in with the old rwanda— of england. so this ties in with the old rwanda scheme, doesn't it? the old rwanda scheme, doesn't itn-non— the old rwanda scheme, doesn't itn-non-in- the old rwanda scheme, doesn't it? now in falmouth it? has now arrived in falmouth , it? has now arrived in falmouth i_the_ it? has now arrived in falmouth ,—ino titty- , in cornwall. the bibby stockholm _ , in cornwall. the bibby stockholm is- , in cornwall. the bibby stockholm is being inspected and notittot— stockholm is being inspected and refitted before _ stockholm is being inspected and refitted before moved to refitted before being moved to iontiant— refitted before being moved to iontiant in— refitted before being moved to portland in dorset, where it nit— portland in dorset, where it niiilusot— portland in dorset, where it will-used to— portland in dorset, where it will used to house around 500 will be used to house around 500 singio— will be used to house around 500 singio naio— will be used to house around 500 single male asylum— will be used to house around 500 single male asylum seekers. so the single male asylum seekers. so to pians— single male asylum seekers. so to pians nano— single male asylum seekers. so the plans have attracted onitioisn — the plans have attracted criticism from - the plans have attracted criticism from literally all sites— criticism from literally all sites ot— criticism from literally all sides of the _ criticism from literally all sides of the debate. and it's toing— sides of the debate. and it's toing nopontot— sides of the debate. and it's being reported that portland nont— being reported that portland iont nas— being reported that portland iont nas non— being reported that portland port has now reportedly removed its uiso— port has now reportedly removed its snip— port has now reportedly removed its cruise ship schedule from his its cruise ship schedule from no notsito— its cruise ship schedule from his website in— its cruise ship schedule from his website in a— its cruise ship schedule from his website in a bid they say , his website in a bid they say, to teen— his website in a bid they say, to toton tan— his website in a bid they say, to deter far right— his website in a bid they say, to deter far right process . so to deter far right process. so tnono— to deter far right process. so too no— to deter far right process. so too no go. — to deter far right process. so there we go. joining me now from tainoutn— there we go. joining me now from tainoutn is— there we go. joining me now from falmouth is our— there we go. joining me now from falmouth is our south—west of
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ingiant— falmouth is our south—west of england, reporter— falmouth is our south—west of england, reporterjeff falmouth is our south—west of england, reporter jeff moody . england, reporter jeff moody. ant— england, reporter jeff moody. ant tott— england, reporter jeff moody. ant tott ioins— england, reporter jeff moody. and jeff joins me. you get all tno— and jeff joins me. you get all to test— and jeff joins me. you get all to test tots— and jeff joins me. you get all the best jobs when it comes to tott— the best jobs when it comes to tott ainays— the best jobs when it comes to me, jeff always seems to be atsoiutoiy— me, jeff always seems to be absolutely hammering it down wherever whenever i throws you. so wherever whenever i throws you. so i— wherever whenever i throws you. so i san— wherever whenever i throws you. so i oniy— wherever whenever i throws you. so i can only apologise for tnat.— so i can only apologise for tnat-_is- so i can only apologise for- that._is somewhere that. but the barge is somewhere you. is— that. but the barge is somewhere near you. is that— that. but the barge is somewhere near you. is that right? it is. its— near you. is that right? it is. its pust— near you. is that right? it is. its inst tonn— near you. is that right? it is. it's just down here. - near you. is that right? it is. it's just down here. apologies if you're on the radio, but it's just down there in the dock . it just down there in the dock. it arrived at about 8:00 this morning in a in a terrible storm. it's been a really bad storm. it's been a really bad storm here for most of the day. so i haven't been able to tnoatoast— so i haven't been able to broadcast until- so i haven't been able to broadcast until this point. the neatten— broadcast until this point. the neatten tas— broadcast until this point. the weather has been— broadcast until this point. the weather has been really quite atrocious. but, yes, it's now arrived. it's causing a bit of a storm, just here storm, not just here weather wise, but also in terms of politicians. we're hearing a lot of-councillors_ politicians. we're hearing a lot of-councillors here- iii. we're hearing a lot of councillors here saying of local councillors here saying it snouitn-t— of local councillors here saying it shouldn't be— of local councillors here saying it shouldn't be here. councillors- it shouldn't be here. councillors at the other side in noynoutn— councillors at the other side in weymouth heading to, weymouth where it's heading to, aiso— weymouth where it's heading to, also-shouldn't- weymouth where it's heading to, also-shouldn't be- also saying it shouldn't be tnono— also saying it shouldn't be tnono-is— also saying it shouldn't be there,-is going- also saying it shouldn't be there, is going be there, but it is going to be making— there, but it is going to be mating—tno- there, but it is going to be. making—the coast there, but it is going to be- making_the coast to making its way up the coast to weymouth— making its way up the coast to weymouth any— making its way up the coast to weymouth any day now. we're not exactly— weymouth any day now. we're not sure exactly when. _ weymouth any day now. we're not sure exactly when. they're not telling— sure exactly when. they're not telling us— sure exactly when. they're not telling us exactly— sure exactly when. they're not telling us exactly when will telling us exactly when it will move, - here now - telling us exactly when it will move,-here now .- telling us exactly when it will move, here now . now for move, but it's here now. now for alof— move, but it's here now. now for alof a— move, but it's here now. now for alof a rem.— move, but it's here now. now for a.of a refit. it's— move, but it's here now. now for a of a refit. it's going to a bit of a refit. it's going to
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be—ws- a bit of a refit. it's going to be—ws going- a bit of a refit. it's going toi be_|t's going to a bit of a refit. it's going to. be_|t's going to be be inspected. it's going to be refit it it makes its refit it before it makes its journey . now it's a three story journey. now it's a three story barge— journey. now it's a three story barge and— journey. now it's a three story barge and n-s— journey. now it's a three story barge and it's got— now it's a three story barge and it's got 221 bedrooms. so barge and it's got 221 bedrooms. so the— barge and it's got 221 bedrooms. so the aim— barge and it's got 221 bedrooms. so the am e— barge and it's got 221 bedrooms. so the aim is to— barge and it's got 221 bedrooms. so the aim is to house around soo— so the aim is to house around 500 migrants— so the aim is to house around 500 migrants inside . \m c 500 migrants inside. now it's casting— 500 migrants inside. now it's costing £20,000 a day. that's not just the hire— costing £20,000 a day. that's not just the hire of— costing £20,000 a day. that's not just the hire of the- f g 17:70 000 3.3. that's not just the hire of the barge, aae— not just the hire of the barge, but me— not just the hire of the barge, but the docking— not just the hire of the barge, but the docking fees as well. ezoeoo — but the docking fees as well. ezoeoo a— but the docking fees as well. £20,000 a day,— but the docking fees as well. £20,000 a day, which is considerably— £20,000 a day, which is considerably less than the £6 memen— considerably less than the £6 million a— considerably less than the £6 million a day— considerably less than the £6 million a day that it's currently— million a day that it's currently costing to house so many— currently costing to house so many migrants— currently costing to house so many migrants in hotels . but of many migrants in hotels. but of taae-e— many migrants in hotels. but of course, that's not— many migrants in hotels. but of course, that's not a— many migrants in hotels. but of course, that's not a direct eemaapeea— course, that's not a direct comparison because they're only expecting— comparison because they're only expeeaag ae— comparison because they're only expecting to house— comparison because they're only expecting to house around 500 in here— expecting to house around 500 in here, whereas— expecting to house around 500 in here, whereas there's something like here, whereas there's something he shooo — here, whereas there's something like 51,000 migrants across the eeahrry— like 51,000 migrants across the eeahrry whe— like 51,000 migrants across the country who are— like 51,000 migrants across the country who are waiting to be housed.— country who are waiting to be housed. har— country who are waiting to be housed. but there certainly the aererhrhehr— housed. but there certainly the government, the— housed. but there certainly the government, the home office is eayhe— government, the home office is saying rhar— government, the home office is saying rhar rhe— government, the home office is saying that this is— government, the home office is saying that this is a start. h-e— saying that this is a start. rr-e garag— saying that this is a start. he going re— saying that this is a start. it's going to be- saying that this is a start. it's going to be good to get rhe— it's going to be good to get his eara— it's going to be good to get his one a— it's going to be good to get this onto a into— it's going to be good to get this onto a into a workable eehahreh— this onto a into a workable condition so— this onto a into a workable condition so that it can head forward— condition so that it can head rerwara hre— condition so that it can head forward into weymouth in the hear— forward into weymouth in the hear he— forward into weymouth in the hear he he— forward into weymouth in the next in the coming weeks and hamme— next in the coming weeks and hehrhe. rr-e— next in the coming weeks and months. it's supposed to be on erre— months. it's supposed to be on she by— months. it's supposed to be on she by he— months. it's supposed to be on site by the summer and it's
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going— site by the summer and it's going re— site by the summer and it's going he he— site by the summer and it's going to be here- site by the summer and it's going to be here on our shores. t hey— going to be here on our shores. her say— going to be here on our shores. her say .— going to be here on our shores. her say , rer— going to be here on our shores. her say , for re— going to be here on our shores. they say , for 18 months . they say, for 18 months. i know it they say, for 18 months. i know h has— they say, for 18 months. i know h has charred— they say, for 18 months. i know it has courted a— they say, for 18 months. i know it has courted a lot of controversy from pretty much literally everyone on every side of the political spectrum. jeff moody, thank you very much. our south—west of england reporter who is doing his very best in what is looking like it's going to be an amber weather warning at there. i'll leave at some point there. i'll leave jeff put him out of his jeff there. put him out of his misery, go back and warm misery, let him go back and warm up the car. but what we've up in the car. but what we've spoken at the top the spoken about at the top of the hour so is this report hour so far is this report sorted round between boris johnson prince johnson and the then prince charles or the charles over whether or not the rwanda indeed rwanda scheme was indeed appalling. course, the bigger appalling. of course, the bigger question, some would argue, is whether member of the whether or not a member of the royal to royal family, soon to be monarch, be getting monarch, should be getting involved and passing comments on monarch, should be getting inv governmentassing comments on monarch, should be getting inv government policy. :omments on on government policy. but the stockholm, there , stockholm, that boat there, we're up with more we're going to end up with more like think about like it. and if you think about it, because we to it, it's because we have to i mean there's already plans for more it. no matter more like it. and no matter which you're in, there was which area you're in, there was calls for some to put around calls for some to be put around the for example, and the the wirral, for example, and the wirral labour politicians wirral have labour politicians around there. they were against it because they were saying human now human rights issues. now
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personally, i strongly personally, i do strongly suspect because suspect that it's just because they a barge full of they didn't want a barge full of illegal in their area. illegal migrants in their area. but it's but they are saying that it's human okay. they human rights issues, okay. they don't want them there. then you end up with areas like in dorset, example, poole, dorset, for example, in poole, where conservative where they have conservative politicians conservative politicians and conservative council are saying, politicians and conservative coun(we are saying, politicians and conservative coun(we don't are saying, politicians and conservative coun(we don't want saying, politicians and conservative coun(we don't want sbecause well, we don't want it because it's straightforwardly it's quite straightforwardly we don't want a boatload of don't really want a boatload of young because young single men there because of potentially , of security issues potentially, and businesses. and also issues for businesses. so you're getting problems here on both sides of the spectrum. but when you look at the numbers, 500 people, okay, 500 people are going to be on that boat well, anything up to boat for, well, anything up to 18 months. if we our 18 months. if we sort our processing it might just be processing out, it might just be a months. then that a few months. but then that relies able to relies on us being able to deport rwanda, doesn't deport people to rwanda, doesn't it? deport people to rwanda, doesn't it.7 going more it.7 we are going to need more boats, aren't are going boats, aren't we.7 we are going to need boats, aren't we? we are going to need to stop the channel full of barges. clearly if the rate of barges. clearly if the rate of and the of people arriving here and the fact only fit 500 fact that you can only fit 500 people mean, that barge and people on i mean, that barge and the would do for the intake of that would do for maybe day, one day's worth maybe one day, one day's worth of mean , we might as of people. i mean, we might as well just basically look, well just basically say, look, the and stack a the game is up and stack a row of barges the channel and of barges across the channel and let across. haven't
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let people walk across. haven't we gb views a gbnews.uk get those coming but we those views coming in, but we will more barges will be seeing more barges housing people these housing people if these predictions to predictions are anything to go by immigration by as well, because immigration experts are saying that net migration could hit record of migration could hit a record of 675,000. and i've got a theory that barges like the bibby, stockholm, they're going to be turned into designer accommodation in the years to come. are to be come. people are going to be paying come. people are going to be paying for a as paying £1 million for a cabin as if were central london if they were in central london or because look or something because look out these people just these numbers of people just arriving 675,000 arriving even legally, 675,000 figure is double the pre brexit peak of 331,008 years ago. now there are some reasons behind this rise, or at least some of the reasons we're being told for it. it's suggested that foreign students who planetarian visas and these might explain this record high. i am a little bit sceptical about that purely because a lot of the humanity , because a lot of the humanity, an effort that was made with ukraine and was made with afghanistan and with hong kong was already in the pipeline. so i remain sceptical about the idea that that's all behind it.
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i am significantly more open to the idea that was put forward earlier on in this show at the top of the 3:00 hour by a chap from migration watch uk that we're people now we're seeing a lot of people now bringing dependents. bringing over their dependents. so wave people who so we had a wave of people who came over here who maybe were granted came granted asylum or came as students legally students or just came legally who bringing dependents who are now bringing dependents oven who are now bringing dependents over. and those tend to come in twos threes. maybe this twos and threes. so maybe this is we are seeing a massive is why we are seeing a massive influx. am also to influx. i am also keen to hear from about this in the from you about this in the brexit though, because brexit angle though, because that telling figure, isn't that is a telling figure, isn't it? and stands that it's it? and it stands out that it's double pre brexit at peak of double the pre brexit at peak of 331,000. if you did vote for brexit, i dare say this wasn't what you voted for. there is also an argument as well, isn't there, to say that the demographic breakdown of this figure or the net migration is yet to be revealed to us? but there an argument there is also an argument to say, that maybe say, isn't there, that maybe now, since leaving the european union, people of union, we'll see people of vastly different demography than we have continental europe we would have continental europe because people because we'll have more people coming various parts of the coming from various parts of the middle the middle east and the subcontinent. et cetera. et
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cetera . or even parts of africa. cetera. or even parts of africa. but there go. me now but there we go. joining me now is saunders, who's former is kevin saunders, who's former chief immigration officer at uk border kevin, you border force. and kevin, as you can a bit of an can tell, i'm doing a bit of an immigration we are immigration roundup. here we are on stuff tells me on the legal stuff now. tells me a that's all right with a bit, if that's all right with you about about dependence and whether if you come here whether or not if you come here legally, it is to easy game the system in a way to bring over people who are ready lives and therefore add to these net migration numbers. is that easily done ? there is easily done? there is a procedure— easily done? there is a procedure that- car 3“ there is a procedure that you have to go rhreaeh. — procedure that you have to go rhreaeh. h— procedure that you have to go rhreagh. h re— procedure that you have to go through. it is possible. it's her— through. it is possible. it's her really— through. it is possible. it's not really easy. c not really easy. it's not as easy— not really easy. it's not as easy as just turning up on a boat. um, easy as just turning up on a boat . um, but yes, you can do boat. um, but yes, you can do h. — boat. um, but yes, you can do h. aha— boat. um, but yes, you can do h. aha .— boat. um, but yes, you can do h. aha . aha— boat. um, but yes, you can do it. and , and how— boat. um, but yes, you can do it. and , and how do- boat. um, but yes, you can do it. and , and how do they go it. and, and how do they go through that process? would you mind telling me? so if i'm a student who's come from india, say, and i've enrolled on a course at king's college london or somewhere, and i've done that course for three years and i want to bring my wife and mother
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or father or brothers over. how can i do that ? right. well it can i do that? right. well it depends— can i do that? right. well it depends what— can i do that? right. well it depends what your- the?" r3r:::r can“ right. well it depends what your student err?" r3r:::r sec“ right. well it depends what your student visa aeraarh— depends what your student visa aeraahr savs- — depends what your student visa actually says. if— depends what your student visa actually says. if you've been grahrea— actually says. if you've been grahrea a— actually says. if you've been granted a three— actually says. if you've been granted a three year visa to do a course as you've— granted a three year visa to do a course as you've suggested in header,— a course as you've suggested in rehaeh ar— a course as you've suggested in rehaeh ar rhe— a course as you've suggested in london, at the end— a course as you've suggested in london, at the end of those rhree— london, at the end of those rhree yea — london, at the end of those three years, you— london, at the end of those three years, you should be going heme— three years, you should be going heme se— three years, you should be going home now. so you— three years, you should be going home now. if" c three years, you should be going home now. e?" c home now. so you you can't be then bringing bringing great granny and five uncles and three cousins into the uk . you'll be cousins into the uk. you'll be going home — cousins into the uk. you'll be going home se— cousins into the uk. you'll be going home. so you've- t you'll be going home. so you've got to aeraarh— going home. so you've got to actually look— going home. so you've got to actually look at— going home. so you've got to actually look at the visa aaahearreh— actually look at the visa application that was made errgmarh— application that was made originally .— application that was made originally. now what the government— originally. now what the government has done, the geremmem— government has done, the government has decided that they heea— government has decided that they need more people— government has decided that they need more people from india to mark— need more people from india to mark h— need more people from india to mark he he— need more people from india to work in the economy . so they've work in the economy. so they've gramea— work in the economy. so they've gramea me— work in the economy. so they've granted more visas— work in the economy. so they've granted more visas to indian to re— granted more visas to indian to he he— granted more visas to indian to come to the uk— granted more visas to indian to come to the uk and they will ham— come to the uk and they will mam re— come to the uk and they will mam re hrhg— come to the uk and they will want to bring their families . want to bring their families. okay. — want to bring their families. okay. aha— want to bring their families. okay. aha sa— want to bring their families. okay. and so what- want to bring their families. okay. and so what do- want to bring their families. okay. and so what do you attribute that to, this steep
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rise? because the line, the spin on it is that it's down to humanity in crisis. so that would be afghanistan , maybe would be afghanistan, maybe syria, ukraine even. and you could argue hong kong as well. and i just seem to remember talking about last year's figures and this being the same excuse then i just wondered, you know , we haven't got every know, we haven't got every single person from ukraine or hong kong or afghanistan over here, mean, can here, have we? so, i mean, can the excuse still you the same excuse still be, you know, about half a know, we've got about half a million from hong kong and that's a significant number. we've got as we see every day in the we've got as we see every day in me prese— we've got as we see every day in me hreee .— we've got as we see every day in me preee , ee— we've got as we see every day in the press , we've got— we've got as we see every day in the press , we've got a huge the press, we've got a huge hmher— the press, we've got a huge number from _ the press, we've got a huge number from ukraine as well. so mew— number from ukraine as well. so hey are— number from ukraine as well. so he .— number from ukraine as well. so he , r— number from ukraine as well. so they are , i would— number from ukraine as well. so they are , i would suggest, they are, i would suggest, ehrhhe— they are, i would suggest, eprhhg rhe— they are, i would suggest, spiking the figures a little hh. — spiking the figures a little hh. aha— spiking the figures a little hh. aha er— spiking the figures a little bit. and of course, as i've just eara— bit. and of course, as i've just saw w-wee— bit. and of course, as i've just saw eer— bit. and of course, as i've just said, we've got we— bit. and of course, as i've just said, we've got we did a deal hmhr— said, we've got we did a deal hmhr swhah— said, we've got we did a deal rishi sunak didn't deal with the harme— rishi sunak didn't deal with the harahe re— rishi sunak didn't deal with the indians to allow— rishi sunak didn't deal with the indians to allow a— rishi sunak didn't deal with the indians to allow a large number of indians to allow a large number or weas— indians to allow a large number or re— indians to allow a large number or he he— indians to allow a large number of visas to be issued to indians to of visas to be issued to indians he came— of visas to be issued to indians re re— of visas to be issued to indians to come to the— of visas to be issued to indians to come to the uk.— of visas to be issued to indians to come to the uk. so i would
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ewaeeer— to come to the uk. so i would ewgaeer rhar— to come to the uk. so i would suggest that these figures have ephed— suggest that these figures have shared a— suggest that these figures have spiked a little— suggest that these figures have spiked a little bit. um, but wea-re— spiked a little bit. um, but you're going to continue to see illegal immigration coming through in record numbers. yeah . hello, kevin. thank you very, very much . great stuff. that's very much. great stuff. that's kevin saunders there. he's the former chief immigration officer at border force. i think at uk border force. and i think that of encapsulates it that kind of encapsulates it perfectly, those two stories coming together really, coming together at once, really, the that bound for the stockholm that bound for people here people who've come here illegally channel, illegally across the channel, only house 500 people. only going to house 500 people. that's poole that's going to pull up in poole at some in the next at some point in the next few weeks had full refurb. weeks having had a full refurb. and that's supposed to be some visible isn't it, that visible sign, isn't it, that we are something stop are now doing something to stop the the jury is the boats? well, the jury is very on again, very much out on that. again, the rwanda scheme doesn't appear to but you to be happening. but then you look legal of it and look at the legal side of it and just move it again, just to move it on again, i think. what about our infrastructure? do you feel when you the that you look around the area that you're right just you're in right now are just reported halligan on reported with liam halligan on 700,000 people missing, vital mortgage and rental repayments? why? the cost of why? well, because the cost of everything going up. why? everything is going up. why? because isn't enough because there isn't enough housing and we can't housing stock and we can't really as quickly, can we,
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really build as quickly, can we, as amount of people coming as the amount of people coming here. do about here. so what can we do about that? vaiews@gbnews.uk now, since though, moving on since covid there has been a huge shift in culture towards quitting the commute and working from home. but this story stood out to me earlier on today. apparently about 40% of people who are working from home say that they'd actually rather go back into the office. so the gloss of working from home and not put pants on not having to put pants on is slipping, isn't saying that slipping, isn't it? saying that their workload has increased and it's actually a negative it's actually having a negative impact their impact on their health? loneliness up there . loneliness was also up there. it's of the biggest issues it's one of the biggest issues seemingly trumping seemingly now trumping the convenience at home. convenience of staying at home. so i just went out and about a little bit earlier on and asked people or not liked people whether or not they liked working were working from home. were they more and they more productive and would they rather back to the office. i rather go back to the office. i think working from home- think working from home poses a lot think working from home poses a er er— think working from home poses a lot of positives,— think working from home poses a lot of positives, but— think working from home poses a lot of positives, but also hegarwee. — lot of positives, but also negatives. think it's personal negatives. i think it's personal preference— negatives. i think it's personal preereheer — negatives. i think it's personal preference . yes. i- negatives. i think it's personal preference. “in; idon't negatives. i think it's personal preference . “his i don't work preference. yes. i don't work hem— preference. yes. i don't work from home — preference. yes. i don't work from home. i'm— preference. yes. i don't work from home. i'm a- preference. “in; idon't work from home. r3 from home. i'm a hairdresser, but my husband does. and it works well for his— 3 3 and it works well for his career, but it works well for his career, but h deem-r— works well for his career, but it doesn't for— works well for his career, but it doesn't for mine. \rrt:r works well for his career, but it doesn't for mine. \rt:r it doesn't for mine. no, i think you— it doesn't for mine. no, i think you need those days to get away
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from, like, work, you from, like, office work, you know, a lot of know, because you get a lot of people who, like, you people who, like, ask you questions. need like the questions. so you need like the day questions. so you need like the haw—wha- questions. so you need like the day—kind er- questions. so you need like the day—kind of turni day where you can kind of turn off day where you can kind of turn err—warh- - day where you can kind of turn err—warh- hmi day where you can kind of turn. off—work. um, so off the ai and just work. um, so i off the ai and just work. um, so r aermhew— off the ai and just work. um, so r aermhew r— off the ai and just work. um, so i definitely i work three days in office and then two at home. so helps me with so i think it helps me with productivity overall . like, i productivity overall. like, i don't know that— productivity overall. like, i- don't know that. necessarily don't know that i'm necessarilyi more—productive. more productive, as productive. okay— more productive, as productive. ohaw. hm:— more productive, as productive. okay- um, har— more productive, as productive. okay. um, but yeah,- more productive, as productive. um, but yeah, i definitely okay. um, but yeah, i definitely aah-r— okay. um, but yeah, i definitely aah-r rhhh— okay. um, but yeah, i definitely aah-r rhhh r— okay. um, but yeah, i definitely don't think i could— um, but yeah, i definitely don't think i could do fully warh— don't think i could do fully werh hem— don't think i could do fully work from home. i personally work from home. and i personally like work from home. and i personally hhe—heme. - work from home. and i personally like—home. you. like working from home. you mew.— like working from home. you knew r-we— like working from home. you knew he gar— like working from home. you know, i've got a— like working from home. you know, i've got a young- like working from home. you know, i've got a young family, so it's really to , easy you so it's really to, easy you know, look after the kids, you know, look after the kids, you know, your boss or your next know, if your boss or your next job, whatever to you, look job, whatever said to you, look , you've got work in the , you've got to work in the office would be office every day, would that be a for you? yes, it would. a no no for you? yes, it would. yeah, i wouldn't consider that . yeah, i wouldn't consider that. yeah, i wouldn't consider that. yeah, yeah, yeah. i mean , i yeah, yeah, yeah. i mean, i think— yeah, yeah, yeah. i mean, i think it's really important to have a good, you know, flexible work life balance. and i think things have moved on, you know, in, in the last couple of years, you know, i think the genie's out of the bottle and you can't really you can't really put it back now, you know, it's back in now, you know, it's yeah. so yeah, would be a yeah. so yeah, it would be a dear—
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yeah. so yeah, it would be a deal breaker— yeah. so yeah, it would be a deal breaker-yeah] yeah. so yeah, it would be a. deal breaker-yeah. so deal breaker for me. yeah. so you— deal breaker for me. yeah. so you aah-r— deal breaker for me. yeah. so you don't need like the time in the morning and in the evening you don't need like the time in the morknow,|nd in the evening you don't need like the time in the morknow, travelthe evening you don't need like the time in the morknow, travelthetheening to, you know, travel to the office and i don't know, i think you just like time. you just have like more time. in i realised very, very in the end i realised very, very awrehw— in the end i realised very, very awrehw whea— in the end i realised very, very awrehw when r— in the end i realised very, very quickly when i was asking people if quickly when i was asking people h weare— quickly when i was asking people h wea-re being— quickly when i was asking people if you're being honest with me, are if you're being honest with me,| are—hreawerrwe if you're being honest with me, are working productive if you're being honest with me, are working prodlhome? when you're working from home? mew-re— when you're working from home? mew-re au— when you're working from home? they're au going— when you're working from home? they're all going to— when you're working from home? they're all going to give- when you're working from home? they're all going to give me- when you're working from home? they're all going to give me the same answer because their boss might they'd see might be watching and they'd see them, fess to them, wouldn't they? fess up to them, wouldn't they? fess up to the put the fact that they don't put pants start drinking pants on and they start drinking wine first thing in the morning? anyway, me. patrick anyway, you are with me. patrick christys news. coming up, christys on gb news. coming up, the infamous commissioner's office it office has announced that it will action against will be taking no action against lancashire for revealing lancashire police for revealing personal details about the mother nicola birley, personal details about the mothas nicola birley, personal details about the mothas sadly nicola birley, personal details about the mothas sadly founda birley, personal details about the mothas sadly found deadzy, personal details about the mothas sadly found dead in who was sadly found dead in february. i'm going to speak to a former scotland yard detective, peter bleksley, about this. and it was about of this. and it was about one of the most documented the largest and most documented missing persons inquiries that i can ever remember in this country. that was the nicola bulley case or the police , it bulley case or the police, it appears, have got off scot free. i'm patrick christys on gb news britain's news
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lam okay, so look, we all remember the nicola burley case. it was for money, the nicola burley case. it was for-money, probably- for my money, probably the rargeer— for my money, probably the largest-persons- largest missing persons investigation- largest missing persons investigation very long investigation for a very long perha— investigation for a very long period _certainly- investigation for a very long period certainly one period of time. certainly one rhar— period of time. certainly one that—snowballedl period of time. certainly onei that—snowballed in that absolutely snowballed in herme— that absolutely snowballed in rerme er— that absolutely snowballed in terms of public— that absolutely snowballed in terms of public attention. there waeeewera—ee- was wall to wall coverage of rhe— was wall to wall coverage of mm rrageaw— was wall to wall coverage of mm rrageaw :— was wall to wall coverage of this tragedy , wasn't there? but this tragedy, wasn't there? but the information— this tragedy, wasn't there? but the information commissioner's emce— the information commissioner's whee—marl the information commissioner'si ehree—rhar h office has now announced that it wru— office has now announced that it wrhlrahhg— office has now announced that it wrhlrahhe he— office has now announced that it will taking no action will be taking no action against raheaehrre— will be taking no action against lancashire police— will be taking no action against lancashire police for revealing rheee— lancashire police for revealing those personal— lancashire police for revealing those personal details of mother of those personal details of mother or we— those personal details of mother of awe weara— those personal details of mother of two nicola bulley, who was eaaw— of two nicola bulley, who was eaaw rema— of two nicola bulley, who was sadly found-back- of two nicola bulley, who was sadly found back in sadly found dead back in rehraarw— sadly found dead back in february-at- sadly found dead back in february. at the sadly found dead back in. february. .at the .the february. so at the time the force— february. so at the time the force .widely_ february. so at the time the force widely criticised for force was widely criticised for making— force was widely criticised for mahmg whee— force was widely criticised for making miss bulley struggles wrrh— making miss bulley struggles with alcohol— making miss bulley struggles with alcohol and the menopause hwhhe— with alcohol and the menopause hwhhe har— with alcohol and the menopause hwhhe. her he— with alcohol and the menopause public. but the |co_ with alcohol and the menopause public. but the ico has said mar— public. but the ico has said rhar h— public. but the ico has said that it would _ public. but the ico has said that it would not punish lancashire— that it would not punish lancashire police for disclosing rmermarreh— lancashire police for disclosing information during what it eahea— information during what it eahea a— information during what it called a fast— information during what it called a fast paced investigation. they also added mar— investigation. they also added rharlwewra— investigation. they also added that would provide further that it would provide further aerahe— that it would provide further details around— that it would provide further details around its decision on renewing— details around its decision on following—into. following the inquest into weara— following the inquest into nicola burley's death to discuss this nicola burley's death to discuss his farmer— nicola burley's death to discuss his rwhher: r— nicola burley's death to discuss this further, i am— nicola burley's death to discuss this further, i am joined in the emera— this further, i am joined in the share hw— this further, i am joined in the studio by former— this further, i am joined in the studio by former scotland yard aereerwe — studio by former scotland yard detective peter— studio by former scotland yard detective peter bleksley. peter, studio by former scotland yard detectyou )eter bleksley. peter, studio by former scotland yard detectyou very bleksley. peter, studio by former scotland yard detectyou very much.ey. peter, studio by former scotland yard detectyou very much. what ter, studio by former scotland yard detectyou very much. what have thank you very much. what have we thank you very much. what have _wehere— thank you very much. what have we-here really,—
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thank you very much. what have we here really, because we learnt here really, because at we learnt here really, because ar rhe— we learnt here really, because ar rhe arme— we learnt here really, because at the time there— we learnt here really, because at the time there was a huge amwm— at the time there was a huge amwm er— at the time there was a huge amount of criticism about the heme— amount of criticism about the heme rer— amount of criticism about the police for well,— amount of criticism about the police for well, essentially rereaehg— police for well, essentially releasing-you- police for well, essentially- releasing-you-argue releasing what you could argue is-information. - releasing what you could argue is information. really? is medical information. really? veah. — is medical information. really? veah. -sarr— is medical information. really? veah. -sarr ar— is medical information. really? yeah. _sort of paraphrasej yeah. well to sort of paraphrase doing these two inquiries that have their findings have announced their findings this afternoon, it's essentially nothing to see here. kindly move on. but we did learn that the police contact with nicola bulley before she went missing was when an officer responded to an ambulance being called to her house. we discovered that this ahemeem — house. we discovered that this afternoon. that— house. we discovered that this afternoon. that has— we discovered that this afternoon. that has been investigated— afternoon. that has been investigated by the independent emce— investigated by the independent omee er— investigated by the independent office of police— investigated by the independent office of police conduct and mew— office of police conduct and hey rema— office of police conduct and they found that— office of police conduct and they found that there is no misdemeanour_ they found that there is no misdemeanour there, for want of a hearer— misdemeanour there, for want of a better expression, although reeerher— a better expression, although together with _ a better expression, although together with the information commissioner's— together with the information commissioner's office saying rhar— commissioner's office saying rhar again:— commissioner's office saying that again, with— commissioner's office saying that again, with regards to that rmermarreh— that again, with regards to that information being released, they find information being released, they me he— information being released, they find no adverse— information being released, they find no adverse kind of comment on find no adverse kind of comment en mar.— find no adverse kind of comment en mar. h— find no adverse kind of comment en mar. h re— find no adverse kind of comment on that. it is really— on that. it is really interesting- on that. it is really interesting that we don't have remem— interesting that we don't have lessons have— interesting that we don't have lessons have been learned . lessons have been learned. that hrea— lessons have been learned. that area are— lessons have been learned. that tired old phrase— lessons have been learned. that tired old phrase that kind of makes my heart sing whenever i hear it. we now have new phraemge—
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c we now have new phrasings, procedural learning and er— phrasings, procedural learning and areas of learning . so and areas of learning. so heeerhw— and areas of learning. so possibly somebody has got premerea— possibly somebody has got premerea .— promoted. for coming up with rhe— promoted. for coming up with his ew— promoted. for coming up with this new terminology . this new terminology. “413?" this new terminology. yeah, yeah— this new terminology. yeah, yeah. roo. — i mean, a mind boggles, doesn't it, when it comes to that kind . of stuff. comes to that kind. of stuff. but . the police overall,
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and centre. wasn't he? and then people saying that maybe . of lof- committing i of- committing a of committing a breach of the peace law committing a breach of the peace raw mar— committing a breach of the peace raw rhar hae— committing a breach of the peace law that has been— committing a breach of the peace law that has been in existence for a— law that has been in existence for a very:— law that has been in existence for a werw very:— law that has been in existence for a very, very, very long time reame— for a very, very, very long time now. people that— for a very, very, very long time now. people that were inconvenienced by the environmental protests , else who environmental protests, else who eewrah-r— environmental protests, else who eewrah-r eer— environmental protests, else who eewrah-r are re— environmental protests, else who couldn't get to work , who couldn't get to work, who eewrah-r— couldn't get to work, who couldn't get— couldn't get to work, who couldn't get to- couldn't get to work, who couldn't get to hospital appointments , who couldn't drop appointments, who couldn't drop the appointments, who couldn't drop me hae— appointments, who couldn't drop me has eh— appointments, who couldn't drop the kids off at— appointments, who couldn't drop the kids off at school , who are the kids off at school, who are saying:— the kids off at school, who are
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sayingr weh— the kids off at school, who are sayingr weh :— the kids off at school, who are saying, well , there was one set saying, well, there was one set of heme — saying, well, there was one set or pehee eawme— saying, well, there was one set of police saying kind of rules for of police saying kind of rules her he— of police saying kind of rules for the coronation perhaps understandably. and yet when mew— understandably. and yet when he wee— understandably. and yet when he trying— understandably. and yet when they were trying to go about her— they were trying to go about their business,— they were trying to go about their business, the police were supplying— their business, the police were supplying protesters with harnes— supplying protesters with homes er— supplying protesters with bottles of water for standing on the bottles of water for standing on me herherae— bottles of water for standing on the kerbside and— bottles of water for standing on the kerbside and largely doing hemme— the kerbside and largely doing herhhe .— the kerbside and largely doing herhhe . se— the kerbside and largely doing herhmg . se ha— the kerbside and largely doing nothing . so in that regard, it nothing. so in that regard, it appeare— nothing. so in that regard, it appears rhar— nothing. so in that regard, it appears that when there is a cereharreh— appears that when there is a coronation, the— appears that when there is a coronation, the police will impose— coronation, the police will rmheee rhe— coronation, the police will impose the law. when joe public and joanna— impose the law. when joe public and joanna public— impose the law. when joe public and joanna public are trying to go and joanna public are trying to 90 arrear— and joanna public are trying to 90 ahewr merr— and joanna public are trying to go about their business, the heme— go about their business, the pehee wru— go about their business, the police will interpret the law . police will interpret the law. aha— police will interpret the law. aha mere-e— police will interpret the law. and there's two _ police will interpret the law. and there's two very clear, dreamer— and there's two very clear, distinct differences in that. aha— distinct differences in that. me r— distinct differences in that. me r rhhh— distinct differences in that. and i think the— distinct differences in that. and i think the next time that the environmentalists take to the environmentalists take to me steere— the environmentalists take to the streets, block the traffic, it the streets, block the traffic, h wru— the streets, block the traffic, h with he— the streets, block the traffic, it will be very— the streets, block the traffic, it will be very interesting to hre— it will be very interesting to see it's happening today. ' 3 see it's happening today. and rhh— see it's happening today. and me ha— see it's happening today. and mm h are— see it's happening today. and this is one thing— see it's happening today. and this is one thing that we're going to keep an eye on. it's almost like we planned this ba.2 i you that it. i promise you that we did it. but are going to be having but we are going to be having a look later on. look a little bit later on. apparently some walkers apparently some slow walkers from just stop oil are out and about. fascinating about. so it will be fascinating to police handle to see how the police handle that. look, peter, thank you
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very as ever as peter very much. as ever as peter bleksley there. he's a former scotland bleksley there. he's a former scotlanjoining in the you for joining me in the studio. right. you're with me. patrick news. patrick christys on gb news. don't go anywhere. plenty more to and forget to to bring you and don't forget to get involved in our twitter poll. are team or team poll. are you team boris or team charles alleged charles over their alleged rwanda supposedly rwanda row? supposedly boris johnson and johnson squared up to them and prince charles. right now, that is . patrick thank is the headlines. patrick thank you. the top stories this hour on you. the top stories this hour ah ah— you. the top stories this hour ah ah newe— you. the top stories this hour on gb news. the— the top stories this hour on gb news. the information commissioner's— on gb news. the information commissioner's office says it wea-r— commissioner's office says it weh-r he— commissioner's office says it won't be taking— commissioner's office says it won't be taking any action aeaher— won't be taking any action against lancashire police over its disclosure— against lancashire police over its disclosure of— against lancashire police over its disclosure of nicola bullies hereehar— its disclosure of nicola bullies personal information. the force came under criticism after the 45 came under criticism after the we wear— came under criticism after the we wear era-e— came under criticism after the 45 year old's body was discovered— 45 year old's body was discovered in- 45 year old's body was discovered in the river wyre in rehrwaw— discovered in the river wyre in february following a three week search— february following a three week search. meanwhile, the police warehaee— search. meanwhile, the police warehaee :— search. meanwhile, the police watchdog , the— search. meanwhile, the police watchdog , the independent office watchdog, the independent office for watchdog, the independent office her home — watchdog, the independent office for police conduct— watchdog, the independent office for police conduct ,_ watchdog, the independent office for police conduct , also says for police conduct, also says he— for police conduct, also says it's identified— for police conduct, also says it's identified two areas of reamhe— it's identified two areas of learning after— it's identified two areas of learning after the force had eemaer— learning after the force had contact with _ learning after the force had contact with nicola bully in the days— contact with nicola bully in the ways refere— contact with nicola bully in the days before she— contact with nicola bully in the days before she went missing. an haehehaem— days before she went missing. an independent review by the c0ue99_ independent review by the cehege er— independent review by the college of policing into the hahahhe— college of policing into the hahahhe er— college of policing into the handling of the— college of policing into the handling of the case is also
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whaerwaw— handling of the case is also underway with— handling of the case is also underway with findings and recommendations due to be hwhhehea— recommendations due to be awhhehea h— recommendations due to be published in the autumn . the met published in the autumn. the met reme— published in the autumn. the met police commissioner has defended his farce-e— police commissioner has defended his force's policing— police commissioner has defended his force's policing of the coronation— his force's policing of the coronation after it was criticised _ coronation after it was criticised by- coronation after it was criticised by arresting six hehwhheah— criticised by arresting six republican protesters ahead of the republican protesters ahead of me eem— republican protesters ahead of the event. sir— republican protesters ahead of the event. sir mark rowley aeeehhea— the event. sir mark rowley described the _ the event. sir mark rowley described the arrests as unfortunate _ described the arrests as unfortunate but stressed he empower— unfortunate but stressed he ewppehea rhe— unfortunate but stressed he supported the arresting ehreer-e— supported the arresting officer's actions. the force eemrrmea— officer's actions. the force confirmed the _ officer's actions. the force confirmed the individuals faced no confirmed the individuals faced he farmer— confirmed the individuals faced no further action— confirmed the individuals faced no further action after being shepher— no further action after being shaped anaer— no further action after being stopped under the new public emer— stopped under the new public order aer.— stopped under the new public order act. the— stopped under the new public order act. the prime minister hae— order act. the prime minister has reaaw— order act. the prime minister has today said— order act. the prime minister has today said he— order act. the prime minister has today said he supports peepre-e— has today said he supports peopie-e hem— has today said he supports people's right to protest, but sawe— people's right to protest, but says he— people's right to protest, but eawe rhe ew— people's right to protest, but says the new laws are needed to protect— says the new laws are needed to prereer agaher— says the new laws are needed to protect against serious aremhrreh— protect against serious disruption .— protect against serious disruption . and the former prime disruption. and the former prime rrhhrer— disruption. and the former prime rrhhrer er— disruption. and the former prime minister of pakistan , khan, has minister of pakistan, khan, has heea— minister of pakistan, khan, has been arrested— minister of pakistan, khan, has been arrested by— minister of pakistan, khan, has been arrested by anti—corruption herme— been arrested by anti—corruption heme h— been arrested by anti—corruption police in islamabad and his ewpperrere— police in islamabad and his supporters have— police in islamabad and his supporters have been told to shar— supporters have been told to mm rawh— supporters have been told to shut down the— supporters have been told to shut down the country. footage showe— shut down the country. footage shows paramilitary troops in her— shows paramilitary troops in her gear— shows paramilitary troops in riot gear surrounding the former eheherer— riot gear surrounding the former cricketer inside— riot gear surrounding the former cricketer inside a— riot gear surrounding the former cricketer inside a courtroom . cricketer inside a courtroom. rhe— cricketer inside a courtroom. rhe mave— cricketer inside a courtroom. rhe hae— cricketer inside a courtroom. the move has led to protests in mr hhah-e— the move has led to protests in mr khan's hometown of lahore and emhe— mr khan's hometown of lahore and emhe er— mr khan's hometown of lahore and emhe or he— mr khan's hometown of lahore and members of his political party are members of his political party calling— members of his political party are calling now— members of his political party are calling now for support. rmrah— are calling now for support. man man— are calling now for support. imran khan was— are calling now for support.
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imran khan was ousted from power in imran khan was ousted from power he a— imran khan was ousted from power in a parliamentary— imran khan was ousted from power in a parliamentary vote in april her— in a parliamentary vote in april haer wear— in a parliamentary vote in april raer wear aha— in a parliamentary vote in april last year and the— in a parliamentary vote in april last year and the prime minister has rer-eerea— last year and the prime minister has rejected claims by the human— has rejected claims by the russian president today that the weer— russian president today that the weer h— russian president today that the weer he re— russian president today that the west is to blame— russian president today that the west is to blame for the war in ukraine.— west is to blame for the war in ukraine. rishi— west is to blame for the war in ukraine. rishi sunak says hreeraem— ukraine. rishi sunak says president putin is the only hereon— president putin is the only person responsible for the hwaereh— person responsible for the invasion that— person responsible for the invasion that he's called megah— invasion that he's called illegal and— invasion that he's called illegal and unprovoked. it renewe— illegal and unprovoked. it follows comments made by vraarmrr— follows comments made by vladimir putin— follows comments made by vladimir putin today during a eheeeh— vladimir putin today during a epeeeh ar— vladimir putin today during a speech at russia's annual wherew— speech at russia's annual wherew haw— speech at russia's annual victory day parade , where he victory day parade, where he charmed— victory day parade, where he erarmea a— victory day parade, where he claimed a so—called real war is hehe— claimed a so—called real war is being waged— claimed a so—called real war is being waged and— claimed a so—called real war is being waged and that his country is being waged and that his country he defending— being waged and that his country is defending its— being waged and that his country is defending its sovereignty . is defending its sovereignty. rheee— is defending its sovereignty. rheee are— is defending its sovereignty. those are your— is defending its sovereignty. those are your latest news heaahhee— those are your latest news headlines you're up to date on tv headlines you're up to date on rv ohhhe— headlines you're up to date on tv online dab+— headlines you're up to date on tv online dab+ radio and the whe— tv online dab+ radio and the here he— tv online dab+ radio and the here he aph— tv online dab+ radio and the here m are wea— tv online dab+ radio and the tune in app you with gb news, hrhah-e— tune in app you with gb news, britain's news— tune in app you with gb news, britain's news .— britain's news. channel weh— britain's news. channel weh :— britain's news. channel weh : rm— britain's news. channel well, i'm back britain's news. channel well , i'm back now. britain's news. channel— well , i'm back now. the deadline well, i'm back now. the deadline is looming for low income pensioners to claim available credit. with just ten days left
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on the clock. so the cost of living payment worth £301 is available . over a million uk available. over a million uk households. but only around 850,000 people will actually have claimed it. so is the system too complicated? and could you be missing out on your payment if you've got elderly relatives as well, you should probably listen very now probably listen very closely now because is me because liam halligan is with me and going help make all and he's going to help make all of clearer as he of this a bit clearer as he always zahawi dan wootton always does. zahawi dan wootton business halligan always does. zahawi dan wootton busiion; halligan always does. zahawi dan wootton busiion; money halligan always does. zahawi dan wootton busiion; money. halligan always does. zahawi dan wootton busiion; money. i'veligan always does. zahawi dan wootton busiion; money. i've goti always does. zahawi dan wootton busiion; money. i've got a with on the money. i've got a feeling you might be about to save a few people a few quid this is patrick. a bit of news. vea— this is patrick. a bit of news. hea ah— this is patrick. a bit of news. you can use. i— this is patrick. a bit of news. you can use. i often- (a? a bit of news. you can use. i often come on here— you can use. i often come on here talking— you can use. i often come on here talking about the car marker.— here talking about the car market. and— here talking about the car market. and i— here talking about the car market. and i was talking about mehgaeee— market. and i was talking about mortgages earlier— market. and i was talking about mortgages earlier and wanging on arrear— mortgages earlier and wanging on about something— mortgages earlier and wanging on about something else. is about something else. this is _whar- about something else. this is news. _what i'm. about something else. this is- news._what i'm doing news. you can use what i'm doing here.— news. you can use what i'm doing here-arrear— news. you can use what i'm doing here.-about-some- here. i'm about to say some ereh— here. i'm about to say some erwh rhar— here. i'm about to say some stuff that the _ here. i'm about to say some stuff that the government wants you stuff that the government wants wea-hear— stuff that the government wants wewlhear .— stuff that the government wants wea-hear. wer— stuff that the government wants you-hear. not in— stuff that the government wants you-hear. not in a- stuff that the government wants you hear. not in a propaganda you to hear. not in a propaganda wav— you to hear. not in a propaganda way .— you to hear. not in a propaganda waw , heeawee— you to hear. not in a propaganda way , because the— you to hear. not in a propaganda way , because the minister wants way, because the minister wants heathe— way, because the minister wants heepre re— way, because the minister wants more people to claim benefits for more people to claim benefits her which— more people to claim benefits for which they— more people to claim benefits for which they are eligible and whar— for which they are eligible and whar rm— for which they are eligible and what i'm talking— for which they are eligible and what i'm talking about here is hehereh— what i'm talking about here is pension credit. _ what i'm talking about here is pension credit. we've put a
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warre— pension credit. we've put a little graphic— pension credit. we've put a little graphic up and radio herehere— little graphic up and radio listeners can— little graphic up and radio listeners can follow along as wet.— listeners can follow along as weh- rhre— listeners can follow along as well. this pension credit is wareh— well. this pension credit is wehh arrear— well. this pension credit is worth about 3500 pounds per year on worth about 3500 pounds per year an age aha— worth about 3500 pounds per year on average. and it— worth about 3500 pounds per year on average. and it is— worth about 3500 pounds per year on average. and it is what the awh— on average. and it is what the arm eerwee— on average. and it is what the civil service call— on average. and it is what the civil service call a— on average. and it is what the civil service call a gateway behem— civil service call a gateway hehehr .— civil service call a gateway benefit . that— civil service call a gateway benefit . that means if you get benefit. that means if you get hehereh— benefit. that means if you get pension credit,— benefit. that means if you get pension credit, that is then a garewaw— pension credit, that is then a garewaw re— pension credit, that is then a gateway to other— pension credit, that is then a gateway to other benefits heeawee— gateway to other benefits heeawee h— gateway to other benefits because it means you are then rahhg— because it means you are then rahhg h— because it means you are then taking in under— because it means you are then taking in under another scheme heeawee— taking in under another scheme heeawee h— taking in under another scheme because if the _ taking in under another scheme because if the means test on wear— because if the means test on year heeme— because if the means test on your income for— because if the means test on your income for pension credit topping— your income for pension credit topping up— your income for pension credit topping up the_ your income for pension credit topping up the basic state eehereh— topping up the basic state pension suggests you're eligible : rhea— pension suggests you're eligible : rheh wea— pension suggests you're eligible ,rheh wea wru— pension suggests you're eligible , then you will be— pension suggests you're eligible , then you will be eligible for erher— , then you will be eligible for erher rhhge— , then you will be eligible for other things and— , then you will be eligible for other things and one thing that you other things and one thing that wea wru— other things and one thing that you will-eligible— other things and one thing that you will eligible for is one you will be eligible for is one of you will be eligible for is one er-rhree— you will be eligible for is one of-three-year. you will be eligible for is one. of-three-year cost of these three times a year cost of these three times a year cost er hwhg— of these three times a year cost of living payments, which is heea— of living payments, which is eeor. rhre— of living payments, which is £301. this is— of living payments, which is £301. this is about 1000, just ehee— £301. this is about 1000, just £900 a— £301. this is about 1000, just over £900 a year,— £301. this is about 1000, just over £900 a year, which is a gewemmem— over £900 a year, which is a government is— over £900 a year, which is a government is giving to people on government is giving to people eh rewer— government is giving to people on lower incomes— government is giving to people on lower incomes during this eeer— on lower incomes during this eeer er— on lower incomes during this cost of living.— on lower incomes during this cost of living. squeeze is partly— cost of living. squeeze is earrw re— cost of living. squeeze is party he here— cost of living. squeeze is partly to help with energy bills , partly— partly to help with energy bills , earrw re— partly to help with energy bills , party he help— partly to help with energy bills , partly to help with the cost of , partly to help with the cost er hwhg— , partly to help with the cost er hwhg h— , partly to help with the cost of living in general. there are emer— of living in general. there are other additions— of living in general. there are other additions cost of living hehehre— other additions cost of living benefits for— other additions cost of living benefits for people with disabilities— benefits for people with disabilities and people who are pamewrarw— disabilities and people who are particularly vulnerable . so if particularly vulnerable. so if weare— particularly vulnerable. so if you're—credit,- particularly vulnerable. so ifi you're—credit, you you're on pension credit, you rhea—hwhgl then get the cost of living paymem— then get the cost of living payment-well- then get the cost of living payment-well .- then get the cost of living payment well . but there
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payment as well. but there is a aeaahhe— payment as well. but there is a eeaahhe er— payment as well. but there is a deadline of friday,— payment as well. but there is a deadline of friday, next friday may— deadline of friday, next friday haw rhe— deadline of friday, next friday may he rem— deadline of friday, next friday may the 19th for— deadline of friday, next friday may the 19th for applying for me— may the 19th for applying for me eehereh— may the 19th for applying for this pension credit. and this is whar— this pension credit. and this is whar rhe— this pension credit. and this is what the pensions minister laura hear:— what the pensions minister laura rrerr: aeraahw— what the pensions minister laura trott, actually said.— what the pensions minister laura trott, actually said. this isn't a party— trott, actually said. this isn't a party political— trott, actually said. this isn't a party political broadcast, rhe— a party political broadcast, me he— a party political broadcast, this is about— a party political broadcast, this is about what the government- this is about what the government wants people to know. i government wants people to know. r reek— government wants people to know. r reeh rhe— government wants people to know. r reeh rhe wew— government wants people to know. i took the view this— government wants people to know. i took the view this was non—partisan.- i took the view this was non—partisan. i'm sure a labour wehare— non—partisan. i'm sure a labour welfare minister,— non—partisan. i'm sure a labour welfare minister, pensions rrhrerer— welfare minister, pensions minister would say the same rhhg— minister would say the same rhhg aha— minister would say the same thing and laura— minister would say the same thing and laura trott, the reherehe— thing and laura trott, the pensions minister, said pension ereah— pensions minister, said pension cream—rear- credit can make a real difference— credit can make a real difference and i'm determined to make— difference and i'm determined to make-earmar- difference and i'm determined to make support worth an make sure this support worth an aeage— make sure this support worth an age er— make sure this support worth an average of three— make sure this support worth an average of three and a half graha— average of three and a half grand-re— average of three and a half grand is reaching grand a year is reaching eeerwe— grand a year is reaching eeorye whe- grand a year is reaching everyone who it, everyone who needs it, particularly— everyone who needs it, particularly how much particularly as we know how much ereeeare—rhel pressure households across the eewmw— pressure households across the eewmw have— pressure households across the country have been— pressure households across the country have been under. so how do country have been under. so how ere—h— country have been under. so how ae—h weare- do you work out if you're ehgrhre— do you work out if you're eligible for— do you work out if you're eligible for pension credit, you or eligible for pension credit, you er ah ereerw— eligible for pension credit, you or an elderly-one?- eligible for pension credit, you or an elderly one? well, or an elderly loved one? well, i rhhh— or an elderly loved one? well, i rhhh-ger— or an elderly loved one? well, i rhhh-ger h— or an elderly loved one? well, i rhhh-ger itla- or an elderly loved one? well, i think-got it.a strap. think we've got it on a strap em-hwr— think we've got it on a strap em-hwr h— think we've got it on a strap em-hwr h eh- think we've got it on a strap em-hwr h er a- think we've got it on a strap on. put it on a strap on on. we can put it on a strap on he— on. we can put it on a strap on me — on. we can put it on a strap on the screen. but— on. we can put it on a strap on the screen. but for— on. we can put it on a strap on the screen. but for radio herehere— the screen. but for radio listeners,-you- the screen. but for radio listeners, you need to listeners, well, you need to ear— listeners, well, you need to eat me — listeners, well, you need to call the pension- listeners, well, you need to call the pension credit hemme— call the pension credit helpline,-is- call the pension credit helpline, is 899 call the pension credit- helpline,-is 899 one, two, helpline, which is 899 one, two, mee— helpline, which is 899 one, two, rhree: rear. — helpline, which is 899 one, two, three, four. that's— helpline, which is 899 one, two, three, four. that's monday to rhaaw— three, four. that's monday to rhaaw hem — three, four. that's monday to rhaaw rrem .— three, four. that's monday to friday from . 8— three, four. that's monday to friday from . 8 am. to 6 pm. so friday from. 8 am. to 6 pm. so mere-e— friday from. 8 am. to 6 pm. so rhere-e he— friday from. 8 am. to 6 pm. so there's no particular— friday from. 8 am. to 6 pm. so there's no particular clever, eewerr— there's no particular clever, clever analysis— there's no particular clever, clever analysis from me on this. r-m — clever analysis from me on this. r-m raer— clever analysis from me on this. rm the here—
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clever analysis from me on this. rm twee here ae— clever analysis from me on this. rm twee here ae a— clever analysis from me on this. i'm just here as a sort of prehe— i'm just here as a sort of public service— i'm just here as a sort of public service announcement. i heare— public service announcement. i heard he— public service announcement. i heard the pensions minister on the heard the pensions minister on me here— heard the pensions minister on the radio this— heard the pensions minister on the radio this morning and i rhewghr— the radio this morning and i rhewghr we— the radio this morning and i thought we should bring this to our viewers. there— thought we should bring this to our viewers. there will be lots of our viewers. there will be lots er ether— our viewers. there will be lots of older people— our viewers. there will be lots of older people watching gb news herehhg— of older people watching gb news herehhglrhe— of older people watching gb news listening-the radio. _ of older people watching gb news listening the radio. know listening on the radio. we know we-we-rer— listening on the radio. we know we-we-rer er— listening on the radio. we know we've lot of people we've got a lot of older people in-demographic.- we've got a lot of older people in demographic. so in our in our demographic. so r-m — in our in our demographic. so r-m .rer— in our in our demographic. so r-m-rerleaw- in our in our demographic. so r-m-rerleaw wew- in our in our demographic. so i'm for say, you don't i'm here for to say, you don't be i'm here for to say, you don't he eeaee— i'm here for to say, you don't be scared of— i'm here for to say, you don't be scared of this— i'm here for to say, you don't be scared of this ring. the hmher— be scared of this ring. the number between 8 am. and 6 pm. i'll number between 8 am. and 6 pm. r-h eaw— number between 8 am. and 6 pm. r-h eaw h— number between 8 am. and 6 pm. we eaw he again— number between 8 am. and 6 pm. i'll say it again for— number between 8 am. and 6 pm. i'll say it again for radio listeners. _ i'll say it again for radio listeners. 899- i'll say it again for radio listeners. 899 one, two, three, rear.— listeners. 899 one, two, three, rear. see— listeners. 899 one, two, three, rear. see h— listeners. 899 one, two, three, four. see if you're— listeners. 899 one, two, three, four. see if you're eligible for eehereh— four. see if you're eligible for pension credit. _ four. see if you're eligible for pension credit. because if you are pension credit. because if you ehgrhre— pension credit. because if you are eligible for— pension credit. because if you are eligible for pension credit, rheh— are eligible for pension credit, rheh wew-h— are eligible for pension credit, then you'll also— are eligible for pension credit, then you'll also get that garewaw— then you'll also get that garewawlrhe- then you'll also get that gateway the top up living gateway to the top up living erahaarae— gateway to the top up living standards payment of £301. but wea-we— standards payment of £301. but wew-we ger— standards payment of £301. but wew-we ger re— standards payment of £301. but wew-we ger re re— standards payment of £301. but you've got to do it— standards payment of £301. but you've got to do it by next fridav-_ you've got to do it by next friday. you've— you've got to do it by next friday. you've got to do it by herr— friday. you've got to do it by her rhaaw. — friday. you've got to do it by next friday. that- friday. you've got to do it by next friday. , next friday. that is vitally important. i just wonder, lynn, whether or not some people, dare i say, especially an older i say, especially of an older demographic, bit of demographic, have a bit of a pride issue sometimes when it comes to claiming absolutely. the household i grew up in was a werhhg— the household i grew up in was a werhhg eraee— the household i grew up in was a working class irish— the household i grew up in was a working class irish household aha— working class irish household and he— working class irish household and he r— working class irish household and no one i knew in my family or and no one i knew in my family er h— and no one i knew in my family er h rhe— and no one i knew in my family er he he eeeere— and no one i knew in my family or in the people who work in construction— or in the people who work in construction .— or in the people who work in construction . that's what my construction. that's what my ramrw—
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construction. that's what my ramrw aha.— construction. that's what my family did. they— construction. that's what my family did. they just didn't charm— family did. they just didn't claim benefits.— family did. they just didn't claim benefits. they are certain tripes— claim benefits. they are certain rweee er— claim benefits. they are certain types of pewte— claim benefits. they are certain types of people who just don't warr— types of people who just don't wahr re— types of people who just don't want to claim _ types of people who just don't want to claim benefits. there are some other— want to claim benefits. there are some other kinds of people, you— are some other kinds of people, you-save— are some other kinds of people, you-say, patrick,- are some other kinds of people, you say, patrick, who are you may say, patrick, who are ree— you may say, patrick, who are he heea— you may say, patrick, who are he heeh re— you may say, patrick, who are too keen to claim _ you may say, patrick, who are too keen to claim benefits and mayhe— too keen to claim benefits and mawhe erarm — too keen to claim benefits and maybe claim benefits that rhew-re— maybe claim benefits that here her— maybe claim benefits that they're not eligible for. but i rhhh— they're not eligible for. but i rhmh weave— they're not eligible for. but i think you've put— they're not eligible for. but i think you've put your finger on here— think you've put your finger on there-something— think you've put your finger on there something there think you've put your finger on th ae something there think you've put your finger on tha certain �*nething there think you've put your finger on tha certain groupig there think you've put your finger on tha certain group of there think you've put your finger on tha certain group of people. ere is a certain group of people. he— is a certain group of people. me her— is a certain group of people. me her a— is a certain group of people. it's not a particular ethnicity or even a particular gender or a gamma— or even a particular gender or a earrrearar harr— or even a particular gender or a particular part of— or even a particular gender or a particular part of the country. rhere— particular part of the country. here are— particular part of the country. there are some— particular part of the country. there are some people who don't wahr— there are some people who don't wahr re— there are some people who don't wahr re erarm — there are some people who don't want to claim benefits. what i wear— want to claim benefits. what i wear eaw— want to claim benefits. what i wear eaw h— want to claim benefits. what i would say if you're a pensioner, hghh— would say if you're a pensioner, rrghr, everwee— would say if you're a pensioner, right, everyone gets the basic erare— right, everyone gets the basic erare rehereh— right, everyone gets the basic state pension, right? this is her— state pension, right? this is her-rerea- state pension, right? this is not-tested. if- state pension, right? this is not tested. if you get the not means tested. if you get the mere— not means tested. if you get the haere erare:— not means tested. if you get the basic state, you— not means tested. if you get the basic state, you get— not means tested. if you get the basic state, you get the basic erare— basic state, you get the basic erare eehereh— basic state, you get the basic state pension from your national insurance contributions that wea-h— insurance contributions that. wea-h—hre. you'll have made all your life. heare— you'll have made all your life. you're entitled— you'll have made all your life. you're entitled basic you're entitled to the basic erare— you're entitled to the basic state pension.— you're entitled to the basic state pension. why it's state pension. that's why it's a amverear— state pension. that's why it's a universal benefit.— state pension. that's why it's a universal benefit. and if you area-r— universal benefit. and if you are-for pension- universal benefit. and if you are for pension credit, are eligible for pension credit, rhar— are eligible for pension credit, rhar aree— are eligible for pension credit, that also means— are eligible for pension credit, that also means you're entitled to that also means you're entitled re hehereh— that also means you're entitled to pension credit.— that also means you're entitled to pension credit. i'm generally aemah— to pension credit. i'm generally a emah erare— to pension credit. i'm generally a small state guy.— to pension credit. i'm generally a small state guy. you're geherarrw— a small state guy. you're geherarrw a— a small state guy. you're generally a small state guy. we herh— generally a small state guy. we mm mm— generally a small state guy. we both think the _ generally a small state guy. we both think the tax— generally a small state guy. we both think the tax burden, 70 wear— both think the tax burden, 70 wear hrgh— both think the tax burden, 70 wear hrgh re— both think the tax burden, 70 year high is far— both think the tax burden, 70 year high is far too high. but i wear— year high is far too high. but i wear eaw— year high is far too high. but i wear eaw h— year high is far too high. but i would say if you're eligible for rheee— would say if you're eligible for those benefits,— would say if you're eligible for those benefits, make those benefits, you make that phone— those benefits, you make that there eau—
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those benefits, you make that phone call and— those benefits, you make that phone call and you make sure you get phone call and you make sure you ger whar— phone call and you make sure you ger whar weare— phone call and you make sure you get what you're entitled to. heed — get what you're entitled to. heed erarr. — get what you're entitled to. good stuff. cracking- get what you're entitled to. good stuff. cracking advice. liam, very much. liam, thank you very, very much. liam, thank you very, very much. liam economics liam halligan. now our economics and editor on the and business editor with on the money. okay. you are with and business editor with on the morpatrick okay. you are with and business editor with on the morpatrick christys you are with and business editor with on the morpatrick christys on u are with and business editor with on the morpatrick christys on gbre with and business editor with on the morpatrick christys on gb news. me patrick christys on gb news. plenty bring you in just me patrick christys on gb news. pimoment bring you in just me patrick christys on gb news. pimoment as bring you in just me patrick christys on gb news. pimoment as liamig you in just me patrick christys on gb news. pimoment as liam makes n just me patrick christys on gb news. pimoment as liam makes hisist me patrick christys on gb news. pimoment as liam makes his way a moment as liam makes his way out of the studio. i'm patrick fryston views with britain's fryston gb views with britain's news .
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defender of liberty. yeah i've eemerererw— defender of liberty. yeah i've completely derailed the conversation. - completely derailed the conversation. join me monday to rhareaaw— conversation. join me monday to rhareaaw .— conversation. join me monday to rhareaaw . — conversation. join me monday to rhareaaw. se— conversation. join me monday to thursday . so the— conversation. join me monday to thursday . 37” ti :�* thursday. so the prime minister has been defending his new plan to free up 7 million gp appointments. a year by allowing people to seek treatment for common conditions at pharmacies. it's worth noting as well that our current nhs waiting list time is around the million time is around the 7 million mark. so this clearly will be hoping we'll have a knock on effect a good way. effect on that in a good way. the initiative costing £645 million. yeah would expand pharmacy services to also allow them to prescribe more medications and perform blood checks. and it comes after
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yesterday's announcement didn't say that they're going to have around £240 million spent essentially including a new phone system in every single gps surgery for the near £1 billion, though that this is costing us. there is, i suspect, quite a strong case to say maybe we could use that to pay a lot more gps. joining me now is gareth jones , director of corporate jones, director of corporate affairs at the national pharmacy association. is going association. and this is going to a fascinating insight. to be a fascinating insight. gareth, thank you much gareth, thank you very much for joining this. so are joining me on this. so are pharmacists about this ? pharmacists happy about this? well, i think pharmacy is a very it's well, i think pharmacy is a very he a— well, i think pharmacy is a very he a rraeree— well, i think pharmacy is a very it's a trusted and— well, i think pharmacy is a very it's a trusted and accessible reear— it's a trusted and accessible local service.— it's a trusted and accessible local service. so— it's a trusted and accessible local service. so pharmacists heea— local service. so pharmacists heeh re— local service. so pharmacists are keen to do— local service. so pharmacists are keen to do more for their reear— are keen to do more for their local community. _ are keen to do more for their local community. so the patients rhew— local community. so the patients rhew eerve— local community. so the patients rhew eerve :— local community. so the patients rhew eerve : ee— local community. so the patients they serve , so they— local community. so the patients they serve , so they do welcome they serve, so they do welcome me— they serve, so they do welcome me eeeerramrw— they serve, so they do welcome this opportunity to _ they serve, so they do welcome this opportunity to be able to rear— this opportunity to be able to rear wrrh— this opportunity to be able to deal with more— this opportunity to be able to deal with more problems. so when a emhe— deal with more problems. so when a emhe er— deal with more problems. so when a member of the— deal with more problems. so when a member of the public comes in, you a member of the public comes in, wea mew:— a member of the public comes in, you know, sometimes pharmacists weare— you know, sometimes pharmacists weara have— you know, sometimes pharmacists would have had— you know, sometimes pharmacists would have had to— you know, sometimes pharmacists would have had to say , you know, would have had to say, you know, i would have had to say, you know, r heea— would have had to say, you know, r heea re— would have had to say, you know, r heea re eeha— would have had to say, you know, i need to send you— would have had to say, you know, i need to send you to your gp to rear— i need to send you to your gp to rear wrrh— i need to send you to your gp to deal with this— i need to send you to your gp to deal with this whilst they aeraahw— deal with this whilst they actually have— deal with this whilst they actually have the expertise and rhew—rhei they have the medicines in the
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pharmaew.— they have the medicines in the pharmaewlrer— they have the medicines in the pharmacy. for this, these pharmacy. so for this, these seven conditions, you know , in seven conditions, you know, in rarare— seven conditions, you know, in rarare whea— seven conditions, you know, in future when this— seven conditions, you know, in future when this is implemented rarer— future when this is implemented rarer-wear:— future when this is implemented later-year, they'll- future when this is implemented later year, they'll have later in the year, they'll have rhar— later in the year, they'll have rhar-re — later in the year, they'll have that-to actually- that ability to actually help here— that ability to actually help help immediately. and you help people immediately. and you mew:— help people immediately. and you knew her— help people immediately. and you knew her eeme— help people immediately. and you know, for some conditions like arharw— know, for some conditions like arharw raer— know, for some conditions like urinary tract infections , you urinary tract infections, you mew:— urinary tract infections, you mew—meal urinary tract infections, youi know, _ need to urinary tract infections, you- know,_need to get know, people won't need to get reared— know, people won't need to get rrearea ae— know, people won't need to get rrearea ae-ae— know, people won't need to get treated as as possible. and treated as soon as possible. and i is treated as soon as possible. and r-re gehg— treated as soon as possible. and r-re gehg re- treated as soon as possible. and r-re gehg re he- i think this is going to be a herrer— i think this is going to be a herrer-ger- i think this is going to be a better get treatment for better way to get treatment for rheee— better way to get treatment for those conditions. _ better way to get treatment for those conditions. srttrt; those conditions. is there a true— those conditions. is there a little bit of a concern, though, that somebody might ring and that somebody might ring up and get put on this automated system? get call back, system? they get a call back, they talking to a they end up talking to a doctor's about doctor's reception about something personal, something very, very personal, like a urinary tract infection . like a urinary tract infection. they get told, well, you can go to pharmacy or impetigo is to your pharmacy or impetigo is one of these things. i mean, so you're have to say, you're going to have to say, i've got some pretty debility you're going to have to say, i've gotskinie pretty debility you're going to have to say, i've gotskin condition ebility you're going to have to say, i've gotskin condition and ty you're going to have to say, i've gotskin condition and then getting skin condition and then they to your local they go, okay, go to your local pharmacy. so you're in your boots there's is margery boots where there's is margery bianor shampoo and somebody else buying a nail file . and you're buying a nail file. and you're in there to talking a pharmacist who no doubt is very nice and lovely. but about this horrible rash, you've got somewhere very personal in essentially a shop . personal in essentially a shop. are you concerned this might put people off getting healthcare ?
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people off getting healthcare? so i think you have to recognise rhar— so i think you have to recognise rhar mere— so i think you have to recognise that more than— so i think you have to recognise that more than actually have a consultation— that more than actually have a consultation room— that more than actually have a consultation room now. so there is consultation room now. so there he ah— consultation room now. so there he an eeeerrahhrw— consultation room now. so there is an opportunity to have a confidential— is an opportunity to have a confidential discussion where you— confidential discussion where wea aah-r— confidential discussion where you can't overheard. i think rhar-e— you can't overheard. i think that's, that's— you can't overheard. i think that's, that's really important. aha— that's, that's really important. aha er— that's, that's really important. and of course— that's, that's really important. and of course you— that's, that's really important. and of course you know, people hea-r— and of course you know, people aeh-r have— and of course you know, people aeh-r have re:— and of course you know, people don't have to, to,— and of course you know, people don't have to, to, to— and of course you know, people don't have to, to, to do this if eeehhe— don't have to, to, to do this if eeeehe erhhh— don't have to, to, to do this if people still want— don't have to, to, to do this if people still want to see the gp vou— people still want to see the gp wea mew— people still want to see the gp you know they're _ people still want to see the gp you know they're not being rehea— you know they're not being faced re— you know they're not being forced to use— you know they're not being forced to use a— you know they're not being forced to use a pharmacy. this rhhe— forced to use a pharmacy. this he he— forced to use a pharmacy. this he he ah— forced to use a pharmacy. this this is an additional option whheh— this is an additional option which hopefully the public will feel which hopefully the public will hehlaeehah— which hopefully the public will feel useful. actually feel is useful. they actually wahr— feel is useful. they actually wahr re— feel is useful. they actually wahr re-rhe- feel is useful. they actually want to-the key- feel is useful. they actually want to the key benefit want to do. and the key benefit to want to do. and the key benefit re rhe— want to do. and the key benefit re rhe hrs— want to do. and the key benefit re me are he— want to do. and the key benefit to the nhs is that— want to do. and the key benefit to the nhs is that it's taking some pressure— to the nhs is that it's taking some pressure off gp's. to the nhs is that it's taking some pressure off gp's . and of some pressure off gp's. and of ehearhw— some pressure off gp's. and of ehearhw wea— some pressure off gp's. and of clearly you mentioned the warm— clearly you mentioned the waiting list— clearly you mentioned the waiting list at— clearly you mentioned the waiting list at the moment and the waiting list at the moment and me grear— waiting list at the moment and the great pressure— waiting list at the moment and the great pressure that's on geherah— the great pressure that's on general practise. this, this is a measure that's— general practise. this, this is a measure that's intended to eaeeerr— a measure that's intended to eaeeerr rhar— a measure that's intended to support that general practise, mare— support that general practise, mahe hr— support that general practise, make it easier— support that general practise, make it easier for patients to to, make it easier for patients to re: ger— make it easier for patients to re, ger aeeeee— make it easier for patients to to, get access to— make it easier for patients to to, get access to treatment and make— to, get access to treatment and make rhe— to, get access to treatment and make me hrs— to, get access to treatment and make the nhs more efficient . make the nhs more efficient. hhhe— make the nhs more efficient. he he— make the nhs more efficient. he he au— make the nhs more efficient. this is all centred— make the nhs more efficient. this is all centred around- this is all centred around clearing a backlog of appointments for gp's , in turn, appointments for gp's, in turn, clearing a backlog of appointments for our national health service as a whole and
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crucially arnie making people healthier or certainly less ill anyway. and i am very keen to know whether or not the director of corporate affairs that the national pharmacy association thinks that this is going to work. so thinks that this is going to work . so i think thinks that this is going to work. so i think this will thinks that this is going to work . so i think this will work work. so i think this will work to work. so i think this will work re rare— work. so i think this will work re rahe eh— work. so i think this will work to take on these— so i think this will work to take on these additional rehee— to take on these additional rehee rer— to take on these additional roles for some— to take on these additional roles for some time community pharmaehee— roles for some time community pharmacies being— roles for some time community pharmacies being hugely underfunded— pharmacies being hugely underfunded for many years, 30% cut underfunded for many years, 30% ear h— underfunded for many years, 30% ear hh ramhhg.— underfunded for many years, 30% cut in funding. so,— underfunded for many years, 30% cut in funding. so, you know , cut in funding. so, you know, rhar-e— cut in funding. so, you know, rhar-e heea— cut in funding. so, you know, that's been a— cut in funding. so, you know, that's been a real— cut in funding. so, you know, that's been a real challenge for us. that's been a real challenge for aha— that's been a real challenge for us. and pharmacies have, you mew— us. and pharmacies have, you knew :— us. and pharmacies have, you knew : reahhw— us. and pharmacies have, you know , really, really struggled know, really, really struggled reeehrhw— know, really, really struggled reeehrhw .— know, really, really struggled recently . we've— know, really, really struggled recently . we've been asking for recently. we've been asking for aaahrhehah— recently. we've been asking for additional funding. but this rheee— additional funding. but this aeee—eeme- additional funding. but this- does_some additional does come with some additional rahahhg— does come with some additional ramhhg .— does come with some additional ramhhg . se— does come with some additional rahehhg . se, wea— does come with some additional funding . so, you know, it gives funding. so, you know, it gives eharmaew— funding. so, you know, it gives eharmaew rhe— funding. so, you know, it gives pharmacy the resource that they regahre— pharmacy the resource that they regahre-ahhe— pharmacy the resource that they require - able to _ pharmacy the resource that they require _able to do - pharmacy the resource that they require able to do it require to be able to do it properly-_ require to be able to do it properlv- and_ require to be able to do it properly. and that's that's reahhw— properly. and that's that's really important. properly. and that's that's- really important-know, really important. so, you know, we hehheve— really important. so, you know, we believe-could- really important. so, you know, we believe could be the we believe this could be the ear— we believe this could be the erarrlhew— we believe this could be the start new opportunity for start of new opportunity for eemmahhrw— start of new opportunity for community pharmacy to deliver eervheee— community pharmacy to deliver eervheee .— community pharmacy to deliver more services . and it's not just more services. and it's not just arrear— more services. and it's not just about-ailments- more services. and it's not just about-ailments .- more services. and it's not just- about-ailments . actually. about common ailments. actually. hhere-e— about common ailments. actually. there's-expansion— about common ailments. actually. there's expansion of blood there's an expansion of blood pressure tests— there's an expansion of blood pressure tests in— there's an expansion of blood pressure tests in community pharmaew— pressure tests in community eharmaew aha— pressure tests in community pharmacy and also all oral
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contraception.— pharmacy and also all oral contraception. so the expectation - contraception. so the expectation is that a significant- expectation is that a significant proportion of women on significant proportion of women we erah— significant proportion of women on oral contraception will be are— on oral contraception will be ahhe re— on oral contraception will be ahhe re ger— on oral contraception will be able to get their— on oral contraception will be able to get their treatment managea— able to get their treatment managed through a community pharmacw— managed through a community pharmaew, ee— managed through a community pharmacy, so won't have to deal whrh— pharmacy, so won't have to deal whrh rhe— pharmacy, so won't have to deal whrh rhe er— pharmacy, so won't have to deal with the gp again— pharmacy, so won't have to deal with the gp again .— pharmacy, so won't have to deal with the gp again . frees up time with the gp again. frees up time for with the gp again. frees up time her rhe— with the gp again. frees up time her he er— with the gp again. frees up time her he er aha— with the gp again. frees up time for the gp and it's— with the gp again. frees up time for the gp and it's more convenient— for the gp and it's more convenient for- for the gp and it's more convenient for the public. so weah— convenient for the public. so weah. aha— convenient for the public. so weah. ara tarr— convenient for the public. so yeah. and just just- convenient for the public. so yeah. and just just very- yeah. and just just very quickly, sorry, because i'm a bit pressed for time here. i had a couple of emails in from people wondering about whether or up having to or not they'd end up having to pay or not they'd end up having to pay blood pressure pay to get their blood pressure done of these things. done or for any of these things. but wouldn't, would but they wouldn't, would they? no. will be no. so the system will be exaerhw— no. so the system will be evaerhw rhe— no. so the system will be exactly the same as it now. exactly the same as it is now. so exactly the same as it is now. eelwea-re— exactly the same as it is now. solyou're exempt,- exactly the same as it is now. so you're exempt, you remain so if you're exempt, you remain evemhr. — so if you're exempt, you remain evemhr. _wha- so if you're exempt, you remain exempt. _stuff, gareth. . exempt. great stuff, gareth. thank much. hope thank you very much. and i hope to again very soon to talk to you again very soon because, hey, we're going see because, hey, we're going to see how this works eventually, aren't jones, aren't we? so gareth jones, director of corporate at director of corporate affairs at the pharmacy the national pharmacy association, you association, great to have you on. of that? on. what do you make of that? but another to but we've got another story to round so back to round off the hour. so back to that video of a now that shocking video of a now sacked employee sacked starbucks employee accusing a customer of transphobia and assaulting another. have a look at another. let's have a look at the clip . don't ever call me the clip. don't ever call me
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transphobic , ever. do not know transphobic, ever. do not know me. you're being— transphobic, ever. do not know me. you're being trans- t. do not know me. you're being trans phobic, hareh — me. you're being trans phobic, hareh hee— me. you're being trans phobic, hae hee — me. you're being trans phobic, karen. yes call— me. you're being trans phobic, karen. yes call me- me. you're being trans phobic, karen. yes t karen. yes call me transphobic. you are karen. yes call me transphobic. hea cowh— karen. yes call me transphobic. you are covid now— karen. yes call me transphobic. you are covid now get- karen. yes t you are covid now get out. i wahr— you are covid now get out. i wahr a— you are covid now get out. i want a refund. _ you are covid now get out. i want a refund. /rt: ”rt; want a refund. you're not coming. one. do i get out. you are trespassing now they've got cameras. you are trespassing . cameras. you are trespassing. get out. get out. you are trespassing . apparently said trespassing. apparently said something transphobic . you something transphobic. you actually. actually, you “r; you actually. actually, you bakhmut . vea— actually. actually, you bakhmut . hea . eh— actually. actually, you bakhmut . you. oh, surely— actually. actually, you bakhmut . /rt: oh, surely waiting actually. actually, you bakhmut . /rt:r oh, surely waiting for . you. oh, surely waiting for a rare— . you. oh, surely waiting for a rare whrh— . you. oh, surely waiting for a latte with me— . you. oh, surely waiting for a latte with me now— . /rt: oh, surely waiting for a latte with me now is. is carehhhe— latte with me now is. is caroline fisk,- latte with me now is. is caroline fisk, who is the harder— caroline fisk, who is the founder of— caroline fisk, who is the founder of conservatives for wemem — founder of conservatives for women. caroline, great to have you— women. caroline, great to have wea em— women. caroline, great to have wea reeh— women. caroline, great to have wea heeh we— women. caroline, great to have you on. look we don't know what rhar— you on. look we don't know what rhar wemah— you on. look we don't know what that woman said— you on. look we don't know what that woman said to— you on. look we don't know what that woman said to that earrheahar— that woman said to that particular individual . i particular individual. i eaeeeee:— particular individual. i suppose, caroline, it is worth eawhhg— suppose, caroline, it is worth eawhhg rhere— suppose, caroline, it is worth saying there is— suppose, caroline, it is worth saying there is a— suppose, caroline, it is worth saying there is a chance that ehe— saying there is a chance that ehe mhghr— saying there is a chance that she might have— saying there is a chance that she might have been transphobes big she might have been transphobes hhg .— she might have been transphobes hhg . wew— she might have been transphobes hhg . wew — she might have been transphobes hhg . wew wea.— she might have been transphobes big . wow well, i— she might have been transphobes big . wow �*tfvh�*rtcc :“ 3“ c big. wow well, i mean, i don't think we can even speculate. and secondly , we there's been a real secondly, we there's been a real atmosphere coming from the
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college of policing, individual police forces. even the crown prosecution service that something is transphobic. if anyone perceives that it's being transphobic. so the bar is set so low , people have been so low, people have been encouraged to see almost anything. they you know, they'd like to think of as transphobic erg d0 like to think of as transphobic erg do you think that this is symptomatic of a wider issue? i think that's what you're ahhaehhg— think that's what you're alluding to— think that's what you're alluding to there, which is that it's alluding to there, which is that he her— alluding to there, which is that he her raer— alluding to there, which is that it's not just whatever is eereehvea— it's not just whatever is perceived as— it's not just whatever is perceived as being transphobic . perceived as being transphobic. it's perceived as being transphobic. hr-e aree— perceived as being transphobic. it's also then— perceived as being transphobic. it's also then the— perceived as being transphobic. it's also then the idea that you are it's also then the idea that you raer— it's also then the idea that you are just defied— it's also then the idea that you are just defied in— it's also then the idea that you are just defied in reacting in hhererhhhw— are just defied in reacting in incredibly strongly to that ehearhhg— incredibly strongly to that shouting and— incredibly strongly to that shouting and screaming at a customer, potentially assaulting aherher— customer, potentially assaulting another individual or with a hmh— another individual or with a camera. and it's— another individual or with a camera. and it's that kind of hehavhear— camera. and it's that kind of behaviour that— camera. and it's that kind of behaviour that appears to be on the behaviour that appears to be on me rhee— behaviour that appears to be on me .— behaviour that appears to be on the rise . absolutely the rise. absolutely so people have— the rise. absolutely so people have been encouraged to report anything they perceive as being transphobic. you know, the sort
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of invited in to report it to police forces , encourage, you police forces, encourage, you know, you'll be treated with great care portion . so it's a great care portion. so it's a really terrible narrative that vulnerable people i would classify that that violent man, you know, i would say a violent person. he has been encouraged to if you see something transphobic , if there's transphobic, if there's something that concerns you, almost encourage and enable to act in that very violent way . act in that very violent way. caroline there is there is an hmherrahr— caroline there is there is an important point— caroline there is there is an important point here which is rhar— important point here which is rhar aha— important point here which is rhar are he— important point here which is that and it's the— important point here which is that and it's the individual in ma— that and it's the individual in rhar ehe:— that and it's the individual in that clip, neither— that and it's the individual in that clip, neither individual reahhw— that clip, neither individual reahhw hae— that clip, neither individual really has been— that clip, neither individual really has been identified in it. really has been identified in hr. har— really has been identified in hr. har whar— really has been identified in it. but what i— really has been identified in it. but what i think is hmeerrahr— it. but what i think is important to- it. but what i think is important to consider here for eeehhe— important to consider here for eeeehe he— important to consider here for eeeehe he rhar— important to consider here for people is that if— important to consider here for people is that if people who were born, men— people is that if people who were born, men who now identify hamaa— were born, men who now identify hamaa ae hehhg— were born, men who now identify bannau as being women , behave bannau as being women, behave aggreeehvehw— bannau as being women, behave aggressively towards women, that is, aggressively towards women, that he mahw— aggressively towards women, that he, mahw weara— aggressively towards women, that is, many would regard me then now assaulting— is, many would regard me then now assaulting women on a more regahar— now assaulting women on a more regahar haehe— now assaulting women on a more regahar haehe .— now assaulting women on a more regular basis . and— now assaulting women on a more regular basis . and that, i regular basis. and that, i rhhh— regular basis. and that, i think, should— regular basis. and that, i think, should terrify people. if
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rhar— think, should terrify people. if rhar hereeh— think, should terrify people. if that person didn't have their hahr— that person didn't have their hahr rewa— that person didn't have their hair down or— that person didn't have their hair down or makeup on or wharever— hair down or makeup on or wharever :— hair down or makeup on or whatever , many- hair down or makeup on or whatever , many people would have whatever, many people would have just whatever, many people would have we vhewea— whatever, many people would have just viewed that— whatever, many people would have just viewed that clip— whatever, many people would have just viewed that clip as a man vs just viewed that clip as a man ve verhahhw— just viewed that clip as a man vs verbally assaulting a woman, wearer-r— vs verbally assaulting a woman, weahah-r rhew— vs verbally assaulting a woman, wouldn't they ? _ vs verbally assaulting a woman, wouldn't they ? �*tfvh�*rtcc vs verbally assaulting a woman, wouldn't they ? �*vw�*rtcc wouldn't they? well, you know, for me, at this point, there's nothing to say that that person . so he was accusing a woman of transphobia. i mean i don't know at this point whether that man was trans identifying, but i mean, absolutely. so therefore, any of us looking at it all that clip was was somebody a man being very violent towards a woman and then obviously violent towards another man. i mean, i don't want to put any gloss around it . don't want to put any gloss around it. that was male violence , but i think they're violence, but i think they're really important message is it's somehow been kind of affirmed or legitimised by police forces as the crown prosecution service. but i would also add, i don't think it's a coincidence that the incident took place in
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starbucks back in 2020. starbucks back in 2020. starbucks was very involved in in a whole kind of gender ideology , affirmation, ideology, affirmation, advertising campaign. caroline we currently live— advertising campaign. caroline we currently live in— advertising campaign. caroline we currently live in a- er3 “g tet“ 3“ caroline we currently live in a society i rhhhh— we currently live in a society i rhhhh :— we currently live in a society i rhhhh : where— we currently live in a society i think , where we— we currently live in a society i think , where we need to start think, where we need to start aehhhg— think, where we need to start asking ourselves— think, where we need to start asking ourselves questions . if asking ourselves questions. if an individual— asking ourselves questions. if an individual did— asking ourselves questions. if an individual did not eight call rhemeehvee— an individual did not eight call themselves trans— an individual did not eight call themselves trans and maybe put a wig themselves trans and maybe put a whg eh— themselves trans and maybe put a whg era are— themselves trans and maybe put a whg era are re— themselves trans and maybe put a wig on and do whatever. is it a hh— wig on and do whatever. is it a man in a woman's— wig on and do whatever. is it a man in a woman's changing room? is man in a woman's changing room? he hr— man in a woman's changing room? he hr a— man in a woman's changing room? he hr a mah— man in a woman's changing room? he hr a whe— man in a woman's changing room? is it a man who has— man in a woman's changing room? is it a man who has raped a woman who wants to go to a woman's prison?— woman who wants to go to a woman's prison? is that a man whe— woman's prison? is that a man whe warre— woman's prison? is that a man whe wahre re— woman's prison? is that a man whe wahre re ge— woman's prison? is that a man who wants to go into a women's hrheehe— who wants to go into a women's erheem he— who wants to go into a women's erheehe he rhar— who wants to go into a women's prison? is that in— who wants to go into a women's prison? is that in that video rhar— prison? is that in that video rhar weve— prison? is that in that video that we've seen _ prison? is that in that video that we've seen there as, again , that we've seen there as, again : hre— that we've seen there as, again : hr-e her— that we've seen there as, again , it's not immediately identifiable- , it's not immediately identifiable from the clip, errehg— identifiable from the clip, strong suspicions that is strong suspicions that that is a gerrhhg— strong suspicions that that is a man getting right in a woman's rare— man getting right in a woman's raee aha— man getting right in a woman's race are gehg— man getting right in a woman's face and doing all— man getting right in a woman's face and doing all of this stuff aha— face and doing all of this stuff and screaming—wel and screaming at her. and we heea— and screaming at her. and we need re— and screaming at her. and we need re heeh— and screaming at her. and we need to look at— and screaming at her. and we need to look at this differently as need to look at this differently ae a eeeherw:— need to look at this differently as a society, don't— need to look at this differently as a society, don't yes as a society, don't we? yes hhhhh— as a society, don't we? yes hhmh rhar— as a society, don't we? yes think that we— as a society, don't we? yes think that we should stop using the term trans woman . it really the term trans woman. it really confuses the whole dialogue. i think if we see a man being violent, you know, we should call them a man . if we see a
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violent, you know, we should call them a man. if we see a man who wants to identify as a woman , you know, we should call that person a man. it just makes the whole conversation much clearer . and, you know, again , only ten . and, you know, again, only ten years ago, we just very happily used the terms trans sexuals. and we need to go back there. and we need to go back there. and it was much clearer. everyone knew where they stood . everyone knew where they stood. and men are men and women are women . and we need to call out women. and we need to call out violence from whoever it comes from . the press starting to from. the press starting to start calling a man, a man, a woman, a woman. caroline thank you very much. caroline fist rhee— you very much. caroline fist there, founder— you very much. caroline fist there, founder of— rtg t“ caroline fist there, founder of conservatives for there, founder of conservatives rer wemeh— there, founder of conservatives for women, reacting to that eheehhhg— for women, reacting to that eheehhhg ehe— for women, reacting to that shocking clip from starbucks, shocking clip from a starbucks, i shocking clip from a starbucks, h-ahwwaw— shocking clip from a starbucks, h-ahwwaw :— shocking clip from a starbucks, h-ahwwaw : hh- i believe, anyway, in southampton. are with southampton. now you are with meeh— eh- southampton. now you are with. me,_on gb news. me, patrick christys on gb news. h-ve— me, patrick christys on gb news. h-ve-er— me, patrick christys on gb news. i've _of excitement- me, patrick christys on gb news. i've of excitement to i've got a lot of excitement to hang— i've got a lot of excitement to whg-rhe— i've got a lot of excitement to bring _the next- i've got a lot of excitement to bring the next hour. the bring you in the next hour. the mhgrahr— bring you in the next hour. the migrant-arrives- migrant barge arrives in cemwahh— migrant barge arrives in cornwall-its. migrant barge arrives in- cornwall-its transfer cornwall ahead of its transfer to cornwall ahead of its transfer re hereer. — cornwall ahead of its transfer to dorset.iwill_ cornwall ahead of its transfer to dorset. iwill be- cornwall ahead of its transfer to dorset. will be hosting to dorset. i will be hosting a aehare— to dorset. i will be hosting a debate-well— to dorset. i will be hosting a debate well whether or not debate as well on whether or not we-hrhhg— debate as well on whether or not we-hrhhg haeh— debate as well on whether or not we bring back hunting we should bring back fox hunting . seme— we should bring back fox hunting . seme er— we should bring back fox hunting . some of that,— we should bring back fox hunting . some of that, believe it or not:— . some of that, believe it or her: have— . some of that, believe it or not, have come— . some of that, believe it or not, have come out and said that mawhe— not, have come out and said that mawhe mawhe— not, have come out and said that maybe maybe hunting is all maybe maybe fox hunting is all rhghr. — maybe maybe fox hunting is all rhghr. hmh—
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maybe maybe fox hunting is all right. and starmer says that weheher— right. and starmer says that wokeist views— right. and starmer says that wokeist views don't matter. is he rhghre— wokeist views don't matter. is he rhghre he— wokeist views don't matter. is he right? do you— wokeist views don't matter. is he right? do you care more about the he right? do you care more about me hrs— he right? do you care more about me are aha— he right? do you care more about the nhs and the— he right? do you care more about the nhs and the education system and the nhs and the education system are rhe— the nhs and the education system are me rrahhe— the nhs and the education system and the trains running on time rhah— and the trains running on time rhah wea— and the trains running on time rhah wea ae— and the trains running on time than you do about wokeist jews? wawhe— than you do about wokeist jews? wawhe hhhe— than you do about wokeist jews? hawhe hhhe rhe— than you do about wokeist jews? maybe like the one we've just eheheh— maybe like the one we've just spoken about?— maybe like the one we've just spoken about? for example , i'm spoken about? for example, i'm rarrheh—eh- patrick christys on gb news hrhrahh-e— patrick christys on gb news hrhrahh-e-.—
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channel very i channell very good i channel- very good evening, lemma— very good evening, everybody. it's very good evening, everybody. hr-e raer— very good evening, everybody. he he gene— very good evening, everybody. he he gehe 5— very good evening, everybody. it's just gone 5 pm. i'm rarrheh— it's just gone 5 pm. i'm patrick christys and you are warehhhg— patrick christys and you are watching and— patrick christys and you are watching and listening to gb wewe— watching and listening to gb wewe aha— watching and listening to gb news and here— watching and listening to gb news and here is what i've got eemhhg— news and here is what i've got eemhhg-rhhah- news and here is what i've got coming-final hour.- coming up in the final hour. yesh— coming up in the final hour. hee-rhe— coming up in the final hour. yes,.did did— coming up in the final hour. yes, did did boris johnson yes, so did did boris johnson geaae— yes, so did did boris johnson geaae ah— yes, so did did boris johnson geaae are re— yes, so did did boris johnson square up to our— yes, so did did boris johnson square up to our now king over the square up to our now king over me hwahea— square up to our now king over the rwanda deal— square up to our now king over the rwanda deal ?_ square up to our now king over the rwanda deal ? if square up to our now king over the rwanda deal? if did, the rwanda deal? and if he did, wheee—em- whose side are you on? supposedlv_ whose side are you on? supposedly the then prince charhee— supposedly the then prince charles-boris,- supposedly the then prince charles boris, this rwanda charles said boris, this rwanda phar— charles said boris, this rwanda ehahlaeeahhhhg— charles said boris, this rwanda planlappalling -_ charles said boris, this rwanda plan appalling . and boris plan is appalling. and boris eae:— plan is appalling. and boris eaha haeh— plan is appalling. and boris said, back off.— plan is appalling. and boris said, back off. whose side are you— said, back off. whose side are you-a— said, back off. whose side are wea-a reharea- said, back off. whose side are you a related note, we're you on? on a related note, we're aree— you on? on a related note, we're ahee-ahear— you on? on a related note, we're also-about-barge.. also talking about this barge. rhe— also talking about this barge. hhe mhgrahr— also talking about this barge. the migrant barge is now errhehahhw— the migrant barge is now officially in— the migrant barge is now officially in uk waters, getting the migrant barge is now ofrefitlly in uk waters, getting the migrant barge is now of refit beforeik waters, getting the migrant barge is now of refit before it.ivaters, getting the migrant barge is now of refit before it. then., getting the migrant barge is now of refit before it. then goes ing the migrant barge is now of refit before it. then goes tol a refit before it. then goes to reehe— a refit before it. then goes to poole-dorset—
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a refit before it. then goes to poole-dorset .— a refit before it. then goes to poole dorset . what do you poole in dorset. what do you mahe— poole in dorset. what do you mahe er— poole in dorset. what do you mahe er rhhe— poole in dorset. what do you make of this is— poole in dorset. what do you make of this is only going to heaee— make of this is only going to heaee soo— make of this is only going to house 500 people? i mean, i rhhhh— house 500 people? i mean, i rhhhh wehe— house 500 people? i mean, i think we're probably going to have— think we're probably going to have-a— think we're probably going to have-a-er- think we're probably going toi have - a -of barges have to stack a load of barges across-channel— have to stack a load of barges across channel people can across the channel so people can raer— across the channel so people can haer—ever— across the channel so people can haer—ever rrem - just walk straight over from cahahe. — just walk straight over from calais. _current- just walk straight over fromi calais. _current-of calais. if the current rate of hmmhgrarheh— calais. if the current rate of immigration is— calais. if the current rate of immigration is anything to go by. immigration is anything to go hw. rhevhhg— immigration is anything to go hw. rhevhhg eh— immigration is anything to go by. moving on, we're also going to by. moving on, we're also going re—rhhe- by. moving on, we're also going re—rhhe verwl to be talking about this very gerrhhehr— pertinent issue. should we bring haeh— pertinent issue. should we bring each-hahrhhge— pertinent issue. should we bring back hunting? now, for those back fox hunting? now, for those of back fox hunting? now, for those er—rev- of you who thought the fox hahrhhg— of you who thought the fox hunting—dead. hunting debate was dead in the ware— hunting debate was dead in the water, no, absolutely not. a eerheee-h- water, no, absolutely not. a series yes, people who series of vets. yes, people who raehee — series of vets. yes, people who are tasked - looking - are tasked with looking after ahhmahe—ear- are tasked with looking after animals—out andi are tasked with looking after- animals_out and said animals have come out and said rhar— that fox populations are dangerously— that fox populations are dangerously blame dangerously low and they blame the abolition— dangerously low and they blame the abolition of— dangerously low and they blame the abolition of fox hunting. i'll the abolition of fox hunting. h-hh hhe— the abolition of fox hunting. i'll find out— the abolition of fox hunting. i'll find out why— the abolition of fox hunting. i'll find out why a little bit rarer— i'll find out why a little bit rarer eh— i'll find out why a little bit later on and— i'll find out why a little bit later on and want to round us off later on and want to round us ehlwehh. — later on and want to round us off-well. nobody- later on and want to round us off well. nobody cares about off as well. nobody cares about wehe:— off as well. nobody cares about wehe-heh— off as well. nobody cares about woke, keir starmer . look, woke, says keir starmer. look, is woke, says keir starmer. look, he he— woke, says keir starmer. look, he he rhghr— woke, says keir starmer. look, he he rhghr e— woke, says keir starmer. look, is he right ? okay.— woke, says keir starmer. look, is he right ? okay. do people is he right? okay. do people aeraahhw— is he right? okay. do people aeraahhw :— is he right? okay. do people actually , when— is he right? okay. do people actually , when push comes to actually, when push comes to eheve— actually, when push comes to shove, care more— actually, when push comes to shove, care more about the nhs? hhe— shove, care more about the nhs? hhe eaaearheh— shove, care more about the nhs? the education system , the the education system, the rraheherr— the education system, the transport system and everything ehee:— transport system and everything ehee: ae— transport system and everything ehee, ae eeeeeea— transport system and everything else, as opposed to the culture he— else, as opposed to the culture he he— else, as opposed to the culture wars, is he right?— else, as opposed to the culture wars, is he right? gb views or ehwrwswh— wars, is he right? gb views or gbnews.uk is— wars, is he right? gb views or gbnews.uk is going to be a big hear— gbnews.uk is going to be a big hear er— gbnews.uk is going to be a big hear er rhe— gbnews.uk is going to be a big hour of this. stay— gbnews.uk is going to be a big hour of this. stay tuned . i have hour of this. stay tuned. i have aeraahhw— hour of this. stay tuned. i have
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aeraahhw ger— hour of this. stay tuned. i have aeraahhw ger a— hour of this. stay tuned. i have actually got a little poll ramhhg— actually got a little poll running right— actually got a little poll running right now on gb news, hwhrrer— running right now on gb news, hwhrrer aha— running right now on gb news, twitter and gb— running right now on gb news, twitter and gb news. are you ream— twitter and gb news. are you ream eerhe— twitter and gb news. are you team boris or— twitter and gb news. are you team boris or team king charles? hhar-e— team boris or team king charles? hhar-e whar— team boris or team king charles? hhar-e whar h— team boris or team king charles? that's what i want— team boris or team king charles? that's what i want to know. saeeeeeahw— that's what i want to know. supposedly there was a right rewar— supposedly there was a right rewah ramhhe— supposedly there was a right royal rumble there when king charhee— royal rumble there when king charhee-rhe- royal rumble there when king charles the rwanda charles opposed the rwanda mhgrahr— charles opposed the rwanda mhgrahr gram — charles opposed the rwanda migrant plan. look get in touch as migrant plan. look get in touch ae wehh. — migrant plan. look get in touch ae wehh. eh— migrant plan. look get in touch as well. gb views— migrant plan. look get in touch as well. gb views a gbnews.uk is our as well. gb views a gbnews.uk is emahh— as well. gb views a gbnews.uk is our email address. _ as well. gb views a gbnews.uk is our email address. a— as well. gb views a gbnews.uk is our email address. a whole host of our email address. a whole host er gear— our email address. a whole host er grear reehee— our email address. a whole host of great topics there. but right hre— of great topics there. but right hr-e rehhw— of great topics there. but right now it's polly with your headlines— now it's polly with your headlines .— now it's polly with your headlines . patrick thank you. headlines. patrick thank you. hear— headlines. patrick thank you. head evehmg— headlines. patrick thank you. good evening to— headlines. patrick thank you. good evening to you. - headlines. patrick thank you. good evening to you. the top story on gb news tonight, the information commissioner's office says it won't be taking any action against lancashire police over the disclosure of nicola bully's personal information on the force came under criticism after the 45 year old's body was discovered in the river wyre in february following a three week search. meanwhile, the police watchdog , meanwhile, the police watchdog, the independent office for police conduct, also says it's identified two areas of learning after the force had contact with nicola bully in the days before
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she went missing. an independent review by the college of policing into the handling of the case is also underway. its findings and recommended actions are due to be published in the autumn and the met police commissioner has defended his force's policing of the coronation after some criticism for the arrest of six protesters ahead of the event. sir mark rowley described the arrests as unfortunate but stressed he supports the arresting officer's actions. the force confirmed the individuals face no further action after being stopped under the new public order act . the the new public order act. the prime minister has today said he supports people's right to protest, but says the new laws are needed to protect against serious disruption . pharmacists serious disruption. pharmacists will be able to give prescription medicine without a gp sign off in the latest government plans to ease the pressure on doctors . under the pressure on doctors. under the measures, patients will be able to get treatments for seven common conditions, including a sore throat and ear infections, without seeing a doctor . it's
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without seeing a doctor. it's hoped the new guidelines, which will come into place this winter, will free up 15 million appointments at surgeries over the next two years. rishi sunak says the measures will also help cut waiting times for those seeking medical help. 80% of the country lives about— seeking medical help. 80% of the country lives about 20— “3 r3 t.rec 80% of the country lives about 20 minutes warh— country lives about 20 minutes wahh rrem — country lives about 20 minutes wahh rrem a— country lives about 20 minutes walk from a pharmacy , and for walk from a pharmacy, and for mahw— walk from a pharmacy, and for mahw eeeehe— walk from a pharmacy, and for many people there are easier hhaee— many people there are easier the re— many people there are easier ehaee re aeeeee— many people there are easier place to access than their eargerw— place to access than their eargerw .— place to access than their surgery . that's- place to access than their surgery . that's why we're surgery. that's why we're hhveerhhg — surgery. that's why we're investing more- surgery. that's why we're investing more in them and ahhewhhg— investing more in them and allowing them— investing more in them and allowing them to more. and allowing them to do more. and it's allowing them to do more. and hhe-mere— allowing them to do more. and it's more medicines it's not just more medicines rhar— it's not just more medicines rhar-whhh— it's not just more medicines that-will be- it's not just more medicines that will be able to get that people will be able to get here.— that people will be able to get mere—ger- that people will be able to get there._get more. there. they able to get more rheee— there. they able to get more blood _checks - there. they able to get more blood-checks or- there. they able to get more blood checks or indeed blood pressure checks or indeed eehrraeeerheh— blood pressure checks or indeed contraception as— blood pressure checks or indeed contraception as well. we're contraception as well. so we're ehearhhg— contraception as well. so we'rei expanding—services expanding the range of services rhar— expanding the range of services rhar eeeehe— expanding the range of services rhar eeeehe ah— expanding the range of services that people can get from their pharmaehee— that people can get from their pharmacies that's it will pharmacies. that's good. it will eaee—rhe— pharmacies. that's good. it will ease _the system. pharmacies. that's good. it willi ease _the system and ease pressure on the system and mean-eeehhe— ease pressure on the system and mean-heehhe ah- ease pressure on the system and mean people can access mean that people can get access to mean that people can get access re—eare— mean that people can get access re—eae rhew- mean that people can get access to_care they need- to the health care they need gaheher— to the health care they need gaheher .— to the health care they need gaheher .hr— to the health care they need quicker .-it backs- to the health care they need quicker . it backs all our quicker. and it backs all our rahraerhe— quicker. and it backs all our fantastic pharmacies as well whrh— fantastic pharmacies as well whrh-ramhhg- fantastic pharmacies as well with-funding as- fantastic pharmacies as well with funding as well. \r with extra funding as well. nhs gp with extra funding as well. nhs er hhhra— with extra funding as well. nhs er hhhra hag-a— with extra funding as well. nhs gp anita raja told— with extra funding as well. nhs gp anita raja told gb news she's sceptical about the new plans . sceptical about the new plans. you know, and i know that at the memer— you know, and i know that at the memer rhere— you know, and i know that at the moment there are— you know, and i know that at the moment there are so many hahareae— moment there are so many hundreds of— moment there are so many hundreds of pharmacies have ahreahw— hundreds of pharmacies have already closed— hundreds of pharmacies have already closed down. i mean, you hmw— already closed down. i mean, you hhew: hw— already closed down. i mean, you hhew: hw rhe— already closed down. i mean, you know, by the time— already closed down. i mean, you know, by the time this is going to
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know, by the time this is going re re— know, by the time this is going to be implemented, we not to be implemented, we may not have—ae- to be implemented, we may not haveae— sol have a pharmacy near us. so everwheaw— have a pharmacy near us. so everybody-under- have a pharmacy near us. so everybody under lot of everybody is under a lot of greeeare se— everybody is under a lot of pressure. so need to really, pressure. so we need to really, rearw— pressure. so we need to really, reallyv reahhw— pressure. so we need to really, really, really work— pressure. so we need to really, really, really work towards eaeaehw— really, really work towards capacitvr-r- really, really work towards capacity, , retrain, capacity, capacity, retrain, reerahr— capacity, capacity, retrain, recruit and,— capacity, capacity, retrain, recruit and, you know, and value wear— recruit and, you know, and value wear heahrh— recruit and, you know, and value your health care— recruit and, you know, and value your health care staff . now in your health care staff. now in international— your health care staff. now in international news, the former hrhme— international news, the former prime minister— international news, the former prime minister of— international news, the former prime minister of pakistan , prime minister of pakistan, hhah— prime minister of pakistan, hhah hae— prime minister of pakistan, khan, has been— prime minister of pakistan, khan, has been arrested by anti—corruption— khan, has been arrested by anti—corruption police in hehamahaa— anti—corruption police in islamabad. _ anti—corruption police in islamabad . ' 3 :“ anti—corruption police in- islamabad . and his supporters islamabad. and his supporters are being told to shut down the country for footage shows paramilitary troops in riot gear surrounding the former cricketer. inside what looks like a courtroom. the move has led to protests in mr khan's hometown of lahore and members of his political party are calling for support. imran khan was ousted from power in a parliamentary vote in april last year and the prime minister has rejected claims made by the russian president that the west is to blame for the war in ukraine. an rishi sunak says president putin is the only person responsible for the
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invasion that led to what he's called an illegal and unprovoked conflict . it follows comments by conflict. it follows comments by vladimir putin made during a speech at the annual victory parade in russia , where he parade in russia, where he claimed a so—called right war is being waged and that his country is defending its sovereign motty the western global elites still preach about their exceptional racism. they're pitting people agahher— racism. they're pitting people agahher each— racism. they're pitting people against each other— ”et they're pitting people against each other and dividing eeeherw— against each other and dividing society provoking— against each other and dividing society provoking conflicts and eeaeh— society provoking conflicts and eeaee eewhhg— society provoking conflicts and coups, sowing hatred . coups, sowing hatred. russophobia, aggressive nationalism— russophobia, aggressive nationalism and destroying the rraahrhehah— nationalism and destroying the traditional family values that mahe— traditional family values that mahe reeare— traditional family values that make people all people they seem to make people all people they seem re have— make people all people they seem to have forgotten _ make people all people they seem to have forgotten what the claim to have forgotten what the claim re werha — to have forgotten what the claim to world supremacy led to rergerreh— to world supremacy led to forgotten who _ to world supremacy led to forgotten who defeated this tonne, — forgotten who defeated this horrible, total— forgotten who defeated this horrible, total evil, who stood up horrible, total evil, who stood are her— horrible, total evil, who stood are her her— horrible, total evil, who stood up for their homeland and did not up for their homeland and did her ehare— up for their homeland and did not spare their— up for their homeland and did not spare their lives for the people— not spare their lives for the mp“! er— not spare their lives for the people of europe . meanwhile people of europe. meanwhile rareheah— people of europe. meanwhile european commission president weara— european commission president areaha ve— european commission president areaha aer— european commission president ursula von der leyen is in kyiv for ursula von der leyen is in kyiv rer rahhe— ursula von der leyen is in kyiv for talks with— ursula von der leyen is in kyiv for talks with president veheewmwr— for talks with president volodymyr zelenskyy for talks with president volodymyrzelenskyy
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for talks with president- volodymyr zelenskyy her arrival arrer— volodymyr zelenskyy her arrival comes after russia fired cruise missile strikes in ukraine this morning. smoke trails from explosions have been seen in the capital kyiv, with local officials saying their air defence systems shot most of the missiles down. now here at home, a marine barge which will be used to house migrants has arrived in uk waters. it's called the bibi stockholm. it docked in falmouth this morning. it's going to be refurbished, ished ahead of its use as a housing centre. the three storey barge will be used for at least 18 months and can hold up to 500 people as they wait for their asylum claims to be. protests processed. rather, it's part of a government scheme to move asylum seekers away from costly hotel accommodation and ambulance workers in the south—east are striking today as their union escalates its industrial action over pay. unite's members employed at south central and south—east coast ambulance services will strike until 10:00 tonight. last
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month, members rejected the government's offer of a lump sum cash payment and a 5% pay rise. members of other health unions did accept that offer. you with gb news more news as it happens . now back to . . now back to. patrick time now for a big royal rumble. so a former spin doctor to boris rehheeh— so a former spin doctor to boris rehheeh eawe— so a former spin doctor to boris johnson says the— so a former spin doctor to boris johnson says the pm squared up to johnson says the pm squared up re hhg— johnson says the pm squared up to king charles— johnson says the pm squared up to king charles after he criticised— to king charles after he criticised the- to king charles after he criticised the rwanda refugee phar— criticised the rwanda refugee hhah ar— criticised the rwanda refugee ehah ar rhe— criticised the rwanda refugee plan at the commonwealth summit in plan at the commonwealth summit hh zen.— plan at the commonwealth summit hh zen. har— plan at the commonwealth summit hh zen. har hr— plan at the commonwealth summit in 2022. but it is— plan at the commonwealth summit in 2022. but it is only coming to in 2022. but it is only coming re hhghr— in 2022. but it is only coming re hhghr ew— in 2022. but it is only coming to light now because number her-e— to light now because number heh-e rermer— to light now because number ten's former director of communications , guto harri, says communications, guto harri, says rhar— communications, guto harri, says rhar eerhe— communications, guto harri, says that boris went— communications, guto harri, says that boris went in— communications, guto harri, says that boris went in quite hard agahher— that boris went in quite hard agahher rhe— that boris went in quite hard against the then _ that boris went in quite hard against the then prince of wahee. — against the then prince of wales. boris— against the then prince of wales. boris responded and aheearea— wales. boris responded and eheearea hhe— wales. boris responded and disputed his long standing ahhhee— disputed his long standing allies account.— disputed his long standing allies account. he said, oh, heh— allies account. he said, oh, heeh: hre— allies account. he said, oh, look, it's inaccurate. this hea-r— look, it's inaccurate. this heh-r rrae. — look, it's inaccurate. this isn't true. with- look, it's inaccurate. this isn't true. with a source saying he eerheee— isn't true. with a source saying he eeeheree ahw— isn't true. with a source saying he deplores any commentary on conversations royals . conversations with the royals. har— conversations with the royals. harlhr— conversations with the royals. butlit couldn't— conversations with the royals. but it couldn't get any but if it couldn't get any
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reherher— but if it couldn't get any reherher :— but if it couldn't get any feistier , mr— but if it couldn't get any feistier , mr harry says that the feistier, mr harry says that the meerhhg— feistier, mr harry says that the meerhhg wae— feistier, mr harry says that the meeting was less— feistier, mr harry says that the meeting was less than amicable, ehahmhhg— meeting was less than amicable, ehahmhhg rhar— meeting was less than amicable, claiming that the— meeting was less than amicable, claiming that the pair also ehaehea— claiming that the pair also clashed over— claiming that the pair also clashed over the royals views on ehaverw— clashed over the royals views on ehaverw-hh— clashed over the royals views on ehaverw-hh a— clashed over the royals views on slavery, in a nutshell , slavery, too. so in a nutshell, eaeeeeeahw— slavery, too. so in a nutshell, supposedly boris— slavery, too. so in a nutshell, supposedly boris johnson was verw— supposedly boris johnson was verw-.— supposedly boris johnson was verw-. he— supposedly boris johnson was verw-. he wae- supposedly boris johnson was very . he was then very angry. he was the then hrhme— very angry. he was the then prime minister,— very angry. he was the then prime minister, now king charles was prime minister, now king charles wae-hrhhee— prime minister, now king charles was-prince charles- prime minister, now king charles was prince charles about was then prince charles about it. was then prince charles about hr. -eawhhg— was then prince charles about hr. -eawhhg rhar- was then prince charles about it. saying that the it. charles saying that the hwahaa— it. charles saying that the- rwanda—supposedly rwanda scheme was supposedly aeeahhhg— rwanda scheme was supposedly appalling, appeared on the appalling, that appeared on the hem— appalling, that appeared on the front-several— appalling, that appeared on the front several newspapers and front of several newspapers and it front of several newspapers and hr-reahhw— front of several newspapers and it-really massively- it wasn't really massively eerhee— it wasn't really massively denied-palace- it wasn't really massively denied palace in a way denied by the palace in a way rhar— denied by the palace in a way that insinuates_ denied by the palace in a way that insinuates that maybe he did that insinuates that maybe he he rhhhh— that insinuates that maybe he did think rwanda scheme did think that the rwanda scheme was did think that the rwanda scheme aeeahhhg— did think that the rwanda scheme was appalling. was an was appalling. was that an aheheerea— was appalling. was that an unelected-state. unelected head of state getting hhvehvea— unelected head of state getting hhvehvea-hh- unelected head of state getting involved-in a- unelected head of state getting involved-in a way. involved in politics in a way rhar— involved in politics in a way mar-her— involved in politics in a way that not supposed have that he's not supposed to have here— that he's not supposed to have aeae—ehaverw- done, but also this slavery heeae— done, but also this slavery he— done, but also this slavery issue is fascinating because eaeeeeeehw— supposedly boris johnson advised the supposedly boris johnson advised rhe-hrhhee— supposedly boris johnson advised the-prince charles- supposedly boris johnson advised the prince charles to not the then prince charles to not aeeheghee— the then prince charles to not aeeheghee rer— the then prince charles to not apologise for historic links to the apologise for historic links to me ehave— apologise for historic links to the slave trade. _ apologise for historic links to the slave trade. prince charles rhea— the slave trade. prince charles rhea-aha— the slave trade. prince charles then-and boris— the slave trade. prince charles then and boris said to him, then did, and boris said to him, if then did, and boris said to him, hr wea— then did, and boris said to him, hr wea ae— then did, and boris said to him, hr wea he rhar— then did, and boris said to him, if you do that, then you're going— if you do that, then you're gehg-ehe— if you do that, then you're goinglend ah- if you do that, then you're going end up having calls going to end up having calls for rhhahehah— going to end up having calls for financial—what's- financial reparations. what's haeeehhhg— financial reparations. what's happening-7— financial reparations. what's happening ? financial happening now? financial reearahere— happening now? financial reparations. so— happening now? financial reparations. so there we go. hve— reparations. so there we go. he ger— reparations. so there we go. he ger a— reparations. so there we go. he ger a aehh— reparations. so there we go. i've got a poll on this at the memer — i've got a poll on this at the memer ira:— i've got a poll on this at the moment. far, 70% of you, moment. so far, 70% of you, aw.— moment. so far, 70% of you, ow er— moment. so far, 70% of you, seven 0% of you— moment. so far, 70% of you, seven 0% of you are team boris heam hhg— seven 0% of you are team boris over team king charles. controversial— over team king charles. controversial so make sure you rahe— controversial so make sure you rahe harr— controversial so make sure you rahe harr hh— controversial so make sure you
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rahe earr hh eh— controversial so make sure you take part in on gb— controversial so make sure you take part in on gb news on hwhher— take part in on gb news on twitter. also,— take part in on gb news on twitter. also, you can email in gbviews@gbnews.uk . but in light gbviews@gbnews.uk. but in light of gbviews@gbnews.uk. but in light er rhhe— gbviews@gbnews.uk. but in light of this relevance— gbviews@gbnews.uk. but in light of this relevance to rwanda nae,— of this relevance to rwanda here: a— of this relevance to rwanda here: a hage— of this relevance to rwanda here, a huge barge is set to heaee— here, a huge barge is set to house hundreds— here, a huge barge is set to house hundreds of migrants off the house hundreds of migrants off me eearh— house hundreds of migrants off the south coast— house hundreds of migrants off the south coast of— house hundreds of migrants off the south coast of england. it's arrhvea— the south coast of england. it's now arrived at— the south coast of england. it's now arrived at falmouth in cemwahh. — now arrived at falmouth in cornwall. the— now arrived at falmouth in cornwall. the bibby stockholm is hehhg— cornwall. the bibby stockholm is hehhg hheeeerea— cornwall. the bibby stockholm is being inspected and refitted refere— being inspected and refitted before-moved- being inspected and refitted before moved portland before being moved to portland in before being moved to portland hh weher:— before being moved to portland in dorset, where— before being moved to portland in dorset, where it— before being moved to portland in dorset, where it will be used to in dorset, where it will be used re heaee— in dorset, where it will be used re heaee soo— in dorset, where it will be used to house 500 cindy— in dorset, where it will be used to house 500 cindy yu all male aewham— to house 500 cindy yu all male asylum seekers.— to house 500 cindy yu all male asylum seekers. does anyone else rhhhh— asylum seekers. does anyone else rhhhh rhar— asylum seekers. does anyone else rhhhh rhar we— asylum seekers. does anyone else think that we might— asylum seekers. does anyone else think that we might need a hhgger— think that we might need a hhgger earge— think that we might need a bigger barge or— think that we might need a bigger barge or more of them? har— bigger barge or more of them? har rhe— bigger barge or more of them? har rhe hhahe— bigger barge or more of them? but the plans have attracted erhrhehem — but the plans have attracted criticism from _ but the plans have attracted criticism from all sides of the reeare— criticism from all sides of the aehare :— criticism from all sides of the aehare : aha— criticism from all sides of the debate , and it's— criticism from all sides of the debate , and it's been reported debate, and it's been reported rhar— debate, and it's been reported that portland— debate, and it's been reported that portland port has reeerreahw— that portland port has reperreahw :- that portland port has reportedly , which is quite reportedly, which is quite rhhheahr— reportedly, which is quite difficult to— reportedly, which is quite difficult to say, removed its ehhh— difficult to say, removed its cruise ship schedule from its wehehe— cruise ship schedule from its website-bid— cruise ship schedule from its website-bid to- cruise ship schedule from its website bid to deter, as website in a bid to deter, as rhew—rar- website in a bid to deter, as rhew—rar rhghrl they say anyway, far right arereerere— they say anyway, far right prereerere .— they say anyway, far right protesters . joining me now from protesters. joining me now from whar— protesters. joining me now from whar wae— protesters. joining me now from whar ah— protesters. joining me now from what was an incredibly wet and whhaw— what was an incredibly wet and windy falmouth— what was an incredibly wet and windy falmouth is our south—west of windy falmouth is our south—west er rhghaha— windy falmouth is our south—west of england, reporter— windy falmouth is our south—west of england, reporter jeff moody : whe— of england, reporter jeff moody : whe hm— of england, reporter jeff moody ,whe h-m heehhg— of england, reporter jeff moody , who i'm hoping hasn't been eweer— , who i'm hoping hasn't been eweer ear.— , who i'm hoping hasn't been eweer ear. hre— , who i'm hoping hasn't been swept out. it's all— , who i'm hoping hasn't been swept out. it's all right there rem — swept out. it's all right there now, jeff. fantastic okay. and rhar— now, jeff. fantastic okay. and rhar he— now, jeff. fantastic okay. and rhar he rhe— now, jeff. fantastic okay. and that is the barge— now, jeff. fantastic okay. and that is the barge behind you. whare— that is the barge behind you. whar-e gehg— that is the barge behind you. what's going on? it is indeed whar— what's going on? it is indeed whar hr— what's going on? it is indeed whar hr ewehr— what's going on? it is indeed what it swept into town at 8:00
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rhhe— what it swept into town at 8:00 rhhe memhhg— what it swept into town at 8:00 this morning amidst a terrible ererm — this morning amidst a terrible ererm wer— this morning amidst a terrible storm. not just— this morning amidst a terrible storm. \rrt:rc storm. not just weather wise, but also political arnie. a lot of the councillors down here in falmouth saying they really didn't want it associated with their town, but here it is. it's in the dock. people have been going in and out all day. we've just seen some heavy crates being lifted by crane onto the barge . it's a three story barge barge. it's a three story barge . it's got 221 bedrooms on board andifs . it's got 221 bedrooms on board and it's set to house at least 500 migrants. the cost is around £20,000 a day. that's the higher of the barge, plus the docking fees as well, which the home office is saying is considerably less, of course, than the £6 million a day that it's currently spending on housing migrants in hotels. but there are 51,000 migrants in britain awaiting processing. and this can only deal with 500. so as you say, we're going to need an awful lot more barges to cope with all of the influx of asylum
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seekers in this country. we're not sure at the moment how long it'll be staying here in falmouth before it begins that final journey east down to weymouth to portland, just outside weymouth. but we're thinking it's going to be here for a couple of weeks while it's refurbished, it's refurbished, while it's maintained , and then it's making maintained, and then it's making its journey to weymouth, its final journey to weymouth, where it's expected to stay throughout in fact, throughout the summer. in fact, around 18 months, they say. so i guess it's a case of seeing how this goes, seeing if this is a successful project, and if it is, they can look at rolling out more barges from more places to try and deal with the problem. but has not been without but it has not been without controversy, jeff, from literally all sides of the political spectrum for a variety of reasons. and it's of different reasons. and it's not really going— of different reasons. and it's not really going to- of different reasons. and it's not really going to be- r3 and it's not really going to be getting a earrheaharhw— not really going to be getting a particularly warm _ not really going to be getting a particularly warm reception when it particularly warm reception when hr reche— particularly warm reception when hr reehelhh— particularly warm reception when hr reehelhh-he- particularly warm reception when it rocks-in-is it- particularly warm reception when it rocks-in-is it ? - it rocks up in poole, is it? no.— it rocks up in poole, is it? we. hre— it rocks up in poole, is it? he. he her.— it rocks up in poole, is it? no, it's not. and- it rocks up in poole, is it? no, it's not. and it's- it rocks up in poole, is it? no, it's not. and it's not. had a particularly warm reception here either. speaking to people on the street, a lot of people here saying they don't really want with it. want anything to do with it. they in their they wish it wasn't in their port. the same is
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port. and the same thing is happening lot of happening in dorset, a lot of dorset councillors are saying that they really feel that they they really feel uncomfortable . they really feel uncomfortable. they really feel ill at ease with the whole concept of housing refugees. in what has been described as a prison vessel . what i've seen prison vessel. what i've seen pictures of inside the barge and it certainly doesn't look like a prison. the facilities do look very good. there are cafes and bars inside and the accommodation does look particularly respectful. it doesn't look very nice from the outside, though. it is certainly a bit of a carbuncle , but it a bit of a carbuncle, but it doesn't matter what it looks like on the outside. it's whether it does the job or not, isn't it, jeff, look, thank you very, very much. this is jeff weeaw— very, very much. this is jeff rheeew hhere— very, very much. this is jeff moody there. he's- arty arty t“ this isjeff moody there. he's done arty arty t“ this is jeff moody there. he's done an hhererhhhe— moody there. he's done an incredible job— moody there. he's done an incredible job reporting to us hem—hh- incredible job reporting to us hem—h whari incredible job reporting to us- from_in what was from falmouth there in what was erevheaehw— from falmouth there in what was previously-amber- from falmouth there in what was previously amber weather previously kind of amber weather wamhhg— previously kind of amber weather wamhhg re— previously kind of amber weather warning to have— previously kind of amber weather warning to have brightened up a appears to have brightened up a hhrrhe—hargel little bit. look, so this barge, rhhe— little bit. look, so this barge, this-awaited— little bit. look, so this barge, this awaited barge is now this long awaited barge is now here— this long awaited barge is now there-falmouth.— this long awaited barge is now there falmouth. it'll be there in falmouth. it'll be mevhhg— there in falmouth. it'll be moving-dorset.- moving over to dorset. i ereeamahhw— moving over to dorset. i presumably in- moving over to dorset. i presumably in the next few weeks and presumably in the next few weeks are rhere-e— presumably in the next few weeks and there's going— presumably in the next few weeks and there's going to be 500 a mmmam— and there's going to be 500 a er— and there's going to be 500 a minimum of 500— and there's going to be 500 a minimum of 500 people on that barge.— minimum of 500 people on that harge. har— minimum of 500 people on that harge. har ghveh— minimum of 500 people on that barge. but given that we receive eemerhmee—
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barge. but given that we receive eemerhmee a— barge. but given that we receive sometimes a thousand people over aweeheha— sometimes a thousand people over aweeheha er— sometimes a thousand people over a weekend or even— sometimes a thousand people over a weekend or even more , i don't a weekend or even more, i don't gahre— a weekend or even more, i don't gahre ger— a weekend or even more, i don't gahre ger hev— a weekend or even more, i don't quite get how that's going to reahhw— quite get how that's going to reahhw reach— quite get how that's going to really touch the— quite get how that's going to really touch the sides. we are going— really touch the sides. we are gehhg re— really touch the sides. we are gehhg re heea— really touch the sides. we are going to need more barges, arehr— going to need more barges, arehr-hhe— going to need more barges, aren't and when you break going to need more barges, aren down and when you break going to need more barges, aren down and when you break going to need more barges, aren down and youen you break going to need more barges, aren down and you go,ou break going to need more barges, aren down and you go, okay,rak going to need more barges, aren down and you go, okay, so that down and you go, okay, so it's that down and you go, okay, so he eeerhhg— that down and you go, okay, so he eeerhhg ae— that down and you go, okay, so it's costing us, what is it, areaha— it's costing us, what is it, areaha re— it's costing us, what is it, around £6 million a day or eemerhhhg— around £6 million a day or something asylum seeker something on asylum seeker herehe— something on asylum seekeri hotels—itself something on asylum seeker. hotels—itself , hotels? well, the barge itself, the hotels? well, the barge itself, rhe meerhhg— hotels? well, the barge itself, the mooring .that - hotels? well, the barge itself, the mooring that barge and the mooring of that barge and the mooring of that barge and me raer— the mooring of that barge and me we eeer— the mooring of that barge and the just cost of— the mooring of that barge and the just cost of having people on the just cost of having people we he— the just cost of having people on is something— the just cost of having people on is something like 20,000 a raw.— on is something like 20,000 a dav- mem— on is something like 20,000 a raw. rrem whar— on is something like 20,000 a day. from what jeff was saying here.— day. from what jeff was saying here. hhe— day. from what jeff was saying there. and that— day. from what jeff was saying there. and that is— day. from what jeff was saying there. and that is just one earge— there. and that is just one harge, hhghre— there. and that is just one barge, right? i'm not convinced rhar— barge, right? i'm not convinced rhar hr— barge, right? i'm not convinced rhar hr he— barge, right? i'm not convinced rhar hr he gehg— barge, right? i'm not convinced that it is going to— barge, right? i'm not convinced that it is going to work out araerheahhw— that it is going to work out drastically cheaper than what we've been seeing before . now, we've been seeing before. now, whar— we've been seeing before. now, whar he— we've been seeing before. now, what is fascinating for me, rheagh— what is fascinating for me, rheagh he— what is fascinating for me, though, is that— what is fascinating for me, though, is that it's not just hhaeee— though, is that it's not just ehaeee hhe— though, is that it's not just places like dorset where they're up places like dorset where they're at agahher—rhe- places like dorset where they're up against—this is. places like dorset where they're up against this is a up against it because this is a ceheervarhve— up against it because this is al conservative _there conservative government there are— and they're saying, no, they hear— don't particularly want it in her— don't particularly want it in rhehr-rer— don't particularly want it in their-for the- don't particularly want it in their for the obvious their area for the obvious reasons, public- their area for the obvious reasons, public safety, etcetera .—reahhw- reasons, public safety, etcetera .—reahhw wahrl reasons, public safety, etcetera . literally, really want, reasons, public safety, etcetera . literally, boatload nt, reasons, public safety, etcetera . literally, boatload of quite literally, a boatload of hhhegah— quite literally, a boatload of illegal immigrants just in their port— illegal immigrants just in their eerr-rhhhh— illegal immigrants just in their port-think-willl port and they think they will damage—wheel port and they think they will- damage _when they're damage tourism. but when they're rahhhhg— damage tourism. but when they're rahhhhg-harrhhg— damage tourism. but when they're talking-putting-in- talking about putting them in three— talking about putting them in hhaeee—whhehi places like the wirral, which hae— has got left leaning politicians,- has got left leaning politicians, are has got left leaning- politicians,-are saying politicians, they are saying rhar— politicians, they are saying- rhar—heeaaee that they don't want it because of that they don't want it because er—greahae. - that they don't want it because er—greahae. hhewi of human rights grounds. they hea-r— of human rights grounds. they don't—associated. of human rights grounds. they don't associated with don't want to be associated with heeehhg — don't want to be associated with keeping abominable, keeping people in abominable, as rhew— they say, human rights
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conditions— they say, human rights conditions-,- they say, human rights conditions , is they say, human rights conditions-, is barge on conditions look, is one barge on its conditions look, is one barge on hre-gehhg— conditions look, is one barge on hre-gehhg re— conditions look, is one barge on hre-gehhg re re— conditions look, is one barge on hre-gehhg re he a- conditions look, is one barge on its going to be a deterrent its own going to be a deterrent for its own going to be a deterrent her teeth— its own going to be a deterrent for people crossing the channel hhe— for people crossing the channel hhe-ahewer— for people crossing the channel and-answerlthat- for people crossing the channel and answer that is no, and if the answer to that is no, rhea— and if the answer to that is no, then presumably— and if the answer to that is no, then presumably we're to then presumably we're going to heee—verv- then presumably we're going to heee—verw: verwl need more barges very, very gahehhw. —haer- need more barges very, veryj quickly. _just the quickly. but it's not just the hhhegah— quickly. but it's not just the illegal immigration that quickly. but it's not just the illegafocusing immigration that quickly. but it's not just the illegafocusing on migration that quickly. but it's not just the illegafocusing on here ition that quickly. but it's not just the illegafocusing on here right:hat we're focusing on here right new—ah-hhl now, because it all ties in reahhw— now, because it all ties in really, potentially going really, we're potentially going to really, we're potentially going reme—re— really, we're potentially going to_more barges,- to need a lot more barges, but ram— to need a lot more barges, but turn-boutique,- turn them into boutique, gehrrhrhea— turn them into boutique, gentrified _for- turn them into boutique, gentrified for living for gentrified wharf for living for heeae— gentrified wharf for living for people immigration people because immigration evherre— people because immigration eveerre are— people because immigration experts are saying that net mhgrarheh— experts are saying that net mhgrarheh .— experts are saying that net migration . so— experts are saying that net migration . so is the legal migration. so this is the legal ermr— migration. so this is the legal erah reare— migration. so this is the legal stuff could hit— migration. so this is the legal stuff could hit record high . stuff could hit a record high. of stuff could hit a record high. or 675,000— stuff could hit a record high. of 675,000 people. that is aeahhe— of 675,000 people. that is aeahhe rhe— of 675,000 people. that is double the pre— of 675,000 people. that is double the pre brexit peak of eerheee— double the pre brexit peak of eeeeee weare— double the pre brexit peak of 331,008 years ago. and experts have— 331,008 years ago. and experts have eaggeerea— 331,008 years ago. and experts have suggested that a steep rise in have suggested that a steep rise hh rerehgh— have suggested that a steep rise in foreign students— have suggested that a steep rise in foreign students and humanitarian visas may explain the humanitarian visas may explain me eerehrhah— humanitarian visas may explain the potential record high for here. — the potential record high for here. he— the potential record high for here. he wea— the potential record high for 2023. do you buy that? do you rhhhh— 2023. do you buy that? do you rhhhh rhar— 2023. do you buy that? do you think that that— 2023. do you buy that? do you think that that really is the reasons behind— think that that really is the reasons behind it, people coming hem— reasons behind it, people coming rrem whrahhe— reasons behind it, people coming from ukraine and— reasons behind it, people coming from ukraine and afghanistan and hehg— from ukraine and afghanistan and how-.— from ukraine and afghanistan and g0.9-, whe— from ukraine and afghanistan and g0.9-, whe we— from ukraine and afghanistan and hong , who we offer asylum hong kong, who we offer asylum to hong kong, who we offer asylum re aha— hong kong, who we offer asylum to and understandably so in many aee. he hr— to and understandably so in many cases. is it foreign— to and understandably so in many cases . is it foreign students cases. is it foreign students rhea— cases. is it foreign students rheh hrhhghhg— cases. is it foreign students then bringing over dependents as wehe— then bringing over dependents as wehe hhar— then bringing over dependents as well? that number— then bringing over dependents as well? that number does seem reahhw—hhgh- well? that number does seem really—high and.
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well? that number does seem really—high and iti really excessively high and it ehehe— really excessively high and it eeehe ah— really excessively high and it eeehe are a— really excessively high and it opens up a whole different can of worms, doesn't— opens up a whole different can of worms, doesn't it? time and rhme— of worms, doesn't it? time and rhme-.— of worms, doesn't it? time and rhme-. whar— of worms, doesn't it? time and time-. what about- time again. what about the infrastructure— time again. what about the infrastructure of this country? i infrastructure of this country? h-ahreaaw— infrastructure of this country? i - already spoken - infrastructure of this country? i already spoken and i will i have already spoken and i will eheah— i have already spoken and i will eeeah agahh— i have already spoken and i will speak again about— i have already spoken and i will speak again about the 700,000 heeae— speak again about the 700,000 people whe— speak again about the 700,000 people whe raer— speak again about the 700,000 people who just recently have mheeea— people who just recently have missed their— people who just recently have missed their mortgage payment or are missed their mortgage payment or ahahhe— missed their mortgage payment or ahahhe re— missed their mortgage payment or ahahhe re eaw— missed their mortgage payment or are unable to pay their rent. we rahh— are unable to pay their rent. we rahh ahear— are unable to pay their rent. we rahh ahear a— are unable to pay their rent. we talk about a massive backlog in the talk about a massive backlog in me hrs:— talk about a massive backlog in me whs: aehr— talk about a massive backlog in the nhs, don't we? we have a massive crisis— the nhs, don't we? we have a massive crisis when it comes to rraheherr— massive crisis when it comes to our transport-and- our transport systems and various - aspects. our transport systems and various aspects of our transport systems and- various-aspects of our various different aspects of our infrastructure _ various different aspects of our infrastructure and _ various different aspects of our infrastructure and does anyone mawhe— infrastructure and does anyone mawhe rhhhh— infrastructure and does anyone maybe think that— infrastructure and does anyone maybe think that there is some hhe— maybe think that there is some kind-correlation— maybe think that there is some kind correlation between 600 kind of correlation between 600 are— kind of correlation between 600 are rheee— kind of correlation between 600 and 75,000 people— kind of correlation between 600 and 75,000 people arriving in ehhghe— and 75,000 people arriving in ehhghe wear— and 75,000 people arriving in one single year plus the illegal ehee— one single year plus the illegal ehee er— one single year plus the illegal ehee er rhe— one single year plus the illegal side of the immigration and the rhar— side of the immigration and the rhar we— side of the immigration and the mess that we ourselves mess that we find ourselves in when— mess that we find ourselves in he—ea- when it comes to our infrastructure and inability infrastructure and our inability to infrastructure and our inability re-hahha— infrastructure and our inability re-hahha-ger- infrastructure and our inabilityj to-build,-get your to build, build, build, get your vhewe— to build, build, build, get your vheweh-h— views coming in gbviews@gbnews.uk. me gbviews@gbnews.uk. joining me now—consultant i now is immigration consultant hear— now is immigration consultant hear-heam- now is immigration consultant dean dean. thank you very dean morgan dean. thank you very mach.— dean morgan dean. thank you very mach-he— dean morgan dean. thank you very mach-he ah— dean morgan dean. thank you very much. is an astonishing much. this is an astonishing hhgh— much. this is an astonishing hhgh hamerh— much. this is an astonishing high number of— much. this is an astonishing high number of people. i very mach— high number of people. i very maeh rearr— high number of people. i very much doubt that— high number of people. i very much doubt that many people who verea— much doubt that many people who verea-rhrer— voted for brexit first time weare— voted for brexit first time would have _ voted for brexit first time would have would have would have rheaghr— would have would have would have rheaghr rhar— would have would have would have thought that years— would have would have would have thought that years on, will thought that years on, we will be thought that years on, we will he—rhhe-erl be talking about this kind of hamher— be talking about this kind of number now almost double the pre hrerhr— number now almost double the pre hear-whar— number now almost double the pre brexit-what-put- brexit peak. what do you put eewh— brexit peak. what do you put
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heve-mah— brexit peak. what do you put down main contributor down as the main contributor raerer— down as the main contributor factor-number- down as the main contributor factor number estimated to factor for a number estimated to be factor for a number estimated to he areara— factor for a number estimated to be around 675,000— factor for a number estimated to be around 675,000 people now ? be around 675,000 people now? i appreehare— be around 675,000 people now? i appreehare rhar— be around 675,000 people now? i appreciate that. thanks- be around 675,000 people now? i appreciate that. thanks for- appreciate that. thanks for having me on today. i mean, basically since brexit, you could see that the changes in the immigration rules the government was taking into consideration the free consideration the lack of free movement low , medium and movement for low, medium and high skilled workers coming from europe, the british europe, that the british employers were used to. you know, over many decades . once know, over many decades. once that's been taken away , you that's been taken away, you know, a lot of companies are approaching us now saying we just can't find the staff low, medium skill. what do we medium or high skill. what do we do? immigration rules do? well, the immigration rules change post brexit so that companies could was easier change post brexit so that concompaniesild was easier change post brexit so that concompanies to was easier change post brexit so that concompanies to get as easier change post brexit so that concompanies to get a easier change post brexit so that concompanies to get a sponsor for companies to get a sponsor licence to sponsor people licence and to sponsor people coming majority of those coming in. the majority of those figures, opinion , an figures, in my opinion, an understanding the understanding how tough the system is now to come here legally . i would say maybe legally. i would say maybe i would guess 90% of people in the future post—brexit, the future post—brexit, with the current immigration system will future post—brexit, with the currecomenigration system will future post—brexit, with the currecome here tion system will future post—brexit, with the currecome here iftn system will future post—brexit, with the currecome here if they ;tem will future post—brexit, with the currecome here if they feel will only come here if they feel a skill for a uk employer skill shortage for a uk employer on a skilled worker visa, 5% will marry someone and come in on the uk partner visa and 5%
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will come in as a student, on the uk partner visa and 5% will come in as a student , then will come in as a student, then get a graduate visa for two years. and if they can fill a skill shortage, a british employer can keep them on a skilled worker visa. but that really is the only legal main ways appear to be ways there does appear to be something just a little bit suspect going on here. for me because if i look— suspect going on here. for me because if i look around- gt “g r'tr“ for me because if i look around now gtr “g r'tr“ for me because if i look around now , we because if i look around now, we have— because if i look around now, we have ger— because if i look around now, we have ger a— because if i look around now, we have got a housing— because if i look around now, we have got a housing crisis. i rhar— have got a housing crisis. i mean, that is— have got a housing crisis. i mean, that is well documented aha— mean, that is well documented and ma— mean, that is well documented and that means— mean, that is well documented and that means that we've got a erhehe— and that means that we've got a erhehe hh— and that means that we've got a crisis in home— and that means that we've got a crisis in home ownership and weve-erhehe— crisis in home ownership and. we've-crisis-comes we've got a crisis when it comes to we've got a crisis when it comes re enrag— we've got a crisis when it comes re rehrhhg. aha— we've got a crisis when it comes to renting. and so— we've got a crisis when it comes to renting. and so we have teeth— to renting. and so we have eeeehe here— to renting. and so we have people here already to fill job vacancies. and— people here already to fill job vacancies. and we look at the ahemehewmehr— vacancies. and we look at the unemployment stats and they're not unemployment stats and they're her earrheaharhw— unemployment stats and they're not particularly grim, really comparatively— not particularly grim, really comparatively to other times in herew— comparatively to other times in history. 675,000 _ comparatively to other times in history. 675,000 people in one wear.— history. 675,000 people in one wear. hm— history. 675,000 people in one wear. h-m eerrw— history. 675,000 people in one year. i'm sorry, but— history. 675,000 people in one year. i'm sorry, but all of rheee— year. i'm sorry, but all of rheee heeae— year. i'm sorry, but all of these people cannot be coming here— these people cannot be coming here re— these people cannot be coming here re werh— these people cannot be coming here to work. and— these people cannot be coming here to work. and where are they hhvhhg — here to work. and where are they hhvhhg e— here to work. and where are they hhvhhg ewehh— here to work. and where are they living ? well that's— here to work. and where are they living ? well that's a very good living? well that's a very good gaeehem— living? well that's a very good gaeerheh. — living? well that's a very good gaeerheh. h— living? well that's a very good question. i mean— living? well that's a very good question. i mean ,- living? well that's a very good question. :“ question. i mean, you know, the housing stock in this country , housing stock in this country, there's always been a shortage. you a housing shortage. you know, a housing shortage. i wonder why the people in parliament, you know , don't parliament, you know, don't build houses. i mean , build more houses. i mean, again, is it because of
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investments and they don't want again, is it because of intdilute nts and they don't want again, is it because of intdilute the and they don't want again, is it because of intdilute the investments?t want again, is it because of intdilute the investments? butnt to dilute the investments? but i'm lived here all my i'm 43. i've lived here all my life . can't a year. life. i can't remember a year. we a housing we didn't have a housing shortage. correct me if i'm wrong, the 80s, early 80s, wrong, maybe the 80s, early 80s, but then . like you but not since then. like you say, schools, the say, the schools, the infrastructure a infrastructure isn't there. a lot have left like lot of europeans have left like a lot have gone back to europe. um, but is that equating to 600,000 a year? probably not. and so it is not sustainable in the long term . um, so, but the the long term. um, so, but the problem is the british people have to decide like the government needs to lay out the, you know, the ability for private sector to , to be able to private sector to, to be able to start building more schools and to do public private partnerships and build more houses. and this kind of things. so far they've been incapable to kind do it to the it kind of do it to the scale. it needs but the british needs to be. but the british people , i think, have never been people, i think, have never been given honest about given an honest debate about where from here. our where we go from here. our economy is in tatters . the economy is in tatters. the future is pretty bleak economically . well, here's the economically. well, here's the problem. we're not enough problem. we're not having enough children. we want to children. and if we want to maintain our standard of living, we need to bring people in that
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are going to do the jobs that are going to do the jobs that are to be building are going to be building the businesses are going pay businesses that are going to pay the do all this, but the taxes to do all this, but not enough children. and not having enough children. and one think hit not having enough children. and one nail think hit not having enough children. and one nail on think hit not having enough children. and one nail on the nk hit not having enough children. and one nail on the head hit not having enough children. and one nail on the head inihit- not having enough children. and one nail on the head in a hit- one nail on the head in a sense, the nail on the head in a sense, heaee— the nail on the head in a sense, because one of— the nail on the head in a sense, because one of the— the nail on the head in a sense, because one of the key reasons why— because one of the key reasons whw a— because one of the key reasons whw a her— because one of the key reasons whw a her er— because one of the key reasons why a lot of british people arehr— why a lot of british people. aren't—children aren't having enough children are— aren't having enough children aha—rhe- aren't having enough children aha—aha rhe- and we're not i did the hhrrhrare— and we're not i did the birthrate-few. and we're not i did the birthrate-few ago, birthrate stats a few weeks ago, aeraahhw:— actually, and they are eheehhhghw— actually, and they are shockingly time actually, and they are shockingly-time time shockingly low time and time agahh. — shockingly low time and time agahh. hre— shockingly low time and time again. it's home— shockingly low time and time again. it's home ownership and we reha— again. it's home ownership and we read re— again. it's home ownership and we tend to have— again. it's home ownership and we tend to have think perhaps again. it's home ownership and we tend moreve think perhaps again. it's home ownership and we tend more so think perhaps again. it's home ownership and we tend more so thank perhaps again. it's home ownership and we tend more so than in3erhaps again. it's home ownership and we tend more so than in somets perhaps more so than in some erher— perhaps more so than in some other cultures— perhaps more so than in some other cultures being other cultures and not being too geherah— other cultures and not being too genera-he— other cultures and not being too geherah-he a- other cultures and not being too general is a common general here, this is a common reahhrw. — general here, this is a common reality. perhaps— general here, this is a common reality. perhaps it's more hhgrahhea— reality. perhaps it's more ingrained and— reality. perhaps it's more ingrained and interwoven into hrhrheh— ingrained and interwoven into british culture— ingrained and interwoven into british culture that the natural eraer— british culture that the natural order-events— british culture that the natural order-events is— british culture that the natural order events is things like order of events is things like marhage— order of events is things like marriage, home— order of events is things like marriage, home ownership, hahhee— marriage, home ownership, babies. right— marriage, home ownership, babies. right and if you are now erragghhhg— babies. right and if you are now erragghhhg re— babies. right and if you are now struggling to afford the cost of a weaahhg. — struggling to afford the cost of aweaahhg. hh— struggling to afford the cost of a wedding. all right. certainly not a wedding. all right. certainly her hehhg— a wedding. all right. certainly not being able— a wedding. all right. certainly not being able to— a wedding. all right. certainly not being able to afford a home, rhea— not being able to afford a home, rheh wea— not being able to afford a home, rheh wea hea-r— not being able to afford a home, then you don't tend to get the hahhee— then you don't tend to get the babies, whereas— then you don't tend to get the babies, whereas that is not the eamee-r— babies, whereas that is not the same _of other- babies, whereas that is not the same of other cultures. same in a lot of other cultures. hhghr. — same in a lot of other cultures. hhghr. .ee— same in a lot of other cultures. hhghr. .ee h— same in a lot of other cultures. hhghr-ee h raer— same in a lot of other cultures. right. so i just wonder right. and so i just wonder wherher— right. and so i just wonder whether-not— right. and so i just wonder whether-not it- right. and so i just wonder whether not it just whether or not it is just a eemeherehw— whether or not it is just a completely self—defeating thing hem— completely self—defeating thing hem-re— completely self—defeating thing from -to finish. _ completely self—defeating thing from to finish. and we're from start to finish. and we're rrwhhg—ear- from start to finish. and we're trying our economy trying to prop up our economy whrh—rhgareel with inflated growth figures heaee— with inflated growth figures because—look. with inflated growth figures because look how because we can go look how many heehhe— because we can go look how many eeehhe-hhvhree— because we can go look how many people-invited-our- people were invited into our eeaahw— people were invited into our eeahrrw-hr-e— people were invited into our country. it's sticking country. and it's sticking therea— plaster, sticking, plaster erhehhhg—
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plaster, sticking, plaster- sticking _ actually sticking plaster. but actually the sticking plaster. but actually rhe—gehhg- sticking plaster. but actually rhe—gehhg re| sticking plaster. but actually- the_going to come the whole thing is going to come eramhhhhg— the whole thing is going to come crumbling down— the whole thing is going to come crumbling down at— the whole thing is going to come crumbling down at some point. so you crumbling down at some point. so wea—rhar-e— crumbling down at some point. so wea—rhar-e whar- you know, i think that's what everwehe-e-h- you know, i think that's what everyone's-i think. everyone's worry. i think everyone's worry. i think everyone of knows the everyone kind of knows the barn looks little rotten at the looks a little bit rotten at the moment. doesn't take to moment. it doesn't take much to kick really? you kick it in. is it really? you know, is the good news know, what is the good news that you report every day? you get to report every day? yeah. so all i'd say, though, is, is about this, is that this is, is about this, is that this is the problem that people the debate that government be debate that government should be having is you having with the people is you have a choice. britain either we do something where you're going to let go of historic ties to let go of the historic ties you're going over. you you're going to get over. you know, being the majority know, you being the majority people. you're anglo—saxon, people. if you're anglo—saxon, but you're going to maintain or try to maintain your standard of living. and we can try and, you know, turn around the cost of living crisis and things like that or you pull the drawbridge up, you don't have people coming . but this is going to hit gdp and the cost of living in the future. and i think most people want to provide for their families the families and set up for the future retirement and future for their retirement and things like that. i think if it was put in that way, be was put in that way, it would be different. never
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different. instead, it's never discussed. you're if you discussed. you're racist if you bnng discussed. you're racist if you bring it up therefore we end bring it up and therefore we end up in a situation where there's a lot of misunderstanding of what's going on and what the opfions what's going on and what the options are because you're not allowed about yeah, allowed to talk about it. yeah, exactly. i really exactly. no, i. i really aeereehare— exactly. no, i. i really appreciate you- rthrthtccy no, i. i really appreciate you coming on and eawhhg— saying that because i think that is saying that because i think that he—mahh— saying that because i think that is_main reasons- saying that because i think that is main reasons why is one of the main reasons why we-releaeh— is one of the main reasons why we-releaeh a— is one of the main reasons why we're-such a mess- is one of the main reasons why we're such a mess on multiple we're in such a mess on multiple rhherehr— we're in such a mess on multiple different fronts. _ we're in such a mess on multiple different fronts. because hhereaa— different fronts. because hhereaa er— different fronts. because instead of confronting issue instead of confronting an issue heaa— instead of confronting an issuej heae—gahre head on and it's actually quite hheahrhhg— head on and it's actually quite insulting majority head on and it's actually quite insthe ng_majorityl head on and it's actually quite insthe british majority head on and it's actually quite insthe british public majority head on and it's actually quite insthe british public because head on and it's actually quite instvastritish public because head on and it's actually quite instvast majoritytlic because head on and it's actually quite instvast majoritytlicthezause head on and it's actually quite instvast majoritytlicthe british the vast majority of the british hahhe— the vast majority of the british hahhhe—er public are perfectly capable of havhhg— public are perfectly capable of having discussion like this having a discussion like this whrhear— having a discussion like this without-into- having a discussion like this. without-into-old without it turning into the old raeher— without it turning into the old racist _without - without it turning into the old racist-without ,- without it turning into the old racist without , you racist tropes or without, you hhew— racist tropes or without, you know,.becoming- racist tropes or without, you know, becoming offensive to know, it becoming offensive to heeae.— know, it becoming offensive to eeeehe. har— know, it becoming offensive to people. but-need- know, it becoming offensive to people. but need to have and people. but you need to have and hhereae— people. but you need to have and hhereae-we— people. but you need to have and instead-we end— people. but you need to have and instead-we end up- people. but you need to have and instead we end up with instead of it, we end up with he— instead of it, we end up with this-ridiculous- instead of it, we end up with this ridiculous sticking this kind of ridiculous sticking hhaerer— plaster politics from every ehhghe— plaster politics from every single-element- plaster politics from every single element our single major element of our eeeherw:—gerel single major element of our. society,_gets done. society, and nothing gets done. no society, and nothing gets done. we ehee— society, and nothing gets done. we ehee-hhe- society, and nothing gets done. no one's-and you- society, and nothing gets done. no one's and you wake up no one's happy. and you wake up one no one's happy. and you wake up memhhg— no one's happy. and you wake up one morning and— no one's happy. and you wake up one morning and nothing's hrhhghhg— flipping, working anyway. dean, hhahh— flipping, working anyway. dean,- hhahh—rhergah thank you very much. dean morgan rhee— there, an immigration consultant rhghr— there, an immigration consultant rhghr .— there, an immigration consultant rhghr . ehaw— there, an immigration consultant rhghr . ehaw. hea— there, an immigration consultant right . okay. you are with me. right. okay. you are with me. harrheh— right. okay. you are with me. harrheh-eh- right. okay. you are with me. patrick-on gb- right. okay. you are with me. patrick on gb news. patrick christys on gb news. and up patrick christys on gb news. and are-whrh— patrick christys on gb news. and ah-whhh-rhe- patrick christys on gb news. and up _will-the latest. up next, we will get the latest on up next, we will get the latest eh rhe— up next, we will get the latest on the government's pharmacy pram— on the government's pharmacy hham eh— on the government's pharmacy ehah eh here— on the government's pharmacy plan. oh, here we— on the government's pharmacy plan. oh, here we go. yes, aherher— plan. oh, here we go. yes, another-plaster,i another sticking plaster, eerehrhahhw.— another sticking plaster, eerererhhw.— another sticking plaster, poteror won't- another sticking plaster, poteror won't it work if you are work or won't it work if you are erragghhhg— work or won't it work if you are erragghhhgleee— work or won't it work if you are struggling see your gp or struggling to see your gp or wea-ve— struggling to see your gp or weave ger— struggling to see your gp or you've got waiting time you've got a big waiting time when—wear- you've got a big waiting time
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when—your nhsi when it comes to your nhs rrearmehr:— when it comes to your nhs treatment,-the- when it comes to your nhs treatment, the government treatment, this the government is treatment, this the government he-whhh— treatment, this the government he-whhh eerve— treatment, this the government is-will solve that- is hoping will solve that erehhem — is hoping will solve that problem er— is hoping will solve that problem or at- is hoping will solve that problem or at least go some way to problem or at least go some way re eewhhg— problem or at least go some way re eehvhhg hr.— problem or at least go some way to solving it. but— problem or at least go some way to solving it. but please also hear— to solving it. but please also hear rerger— to solving it. but please also don't forget to— to solving it. but please also don't forget to get involved in our don't forget to get involved in ear-hehh. — don't forget to get involved in ear-hehh. hre- don't forget to get involved in our-poll. are you- don't forget to get involved in our poll. are you team our twitter poll. are you team here— our twitter poll. are you team herhelare— our twitter poll. are you team boris-are-team - our twitter poll. are you team boris are team charles? boris or are you team charles? heaee— boris or are you team charles? because apparently boris or are you team charles?- because apparently-toe because apparently they went toe to because apparently they went toe re—hr- to toe quite literally when it. comes—migrant comes to the rwanda migrant eheme— comes to the rwanda migrant eheme hrh— comes to the rwanda migrant scheme. i'll bring you the reeare— scheme. i'll bring you the results-end- scheme. i'll bring you the results-endlmyl scheme. i'll bring you the- results-endlmy show. results at the end of my show. harrheh— results at the end of my show. patrick christys— results at the end of my show. patrick christys gb news.
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listening to gb news radio. |wehh.— listening to gb news radio. l wehh. hr— listening to gb news radio. . well, if you're- listening to gb news radio. - well, if you're sick- listening to gb news radio.| - welsick and tired, and listening to gb news radio.- - welsick and tired, maybe of being sick and tired, maybe the prime minister has got a solution you because he's solution for you because he's got to free up 7 million got a plan to free up 7 million gp appointments every single year people to get year by allowing people to get treatment common conditions year by allowing people to get treatpharmacies�*nmon conditions year by allowing people to get treatpharmacies are )n conditions year by allowing people to get treatpharmacies are going ditions year by allowing people to get treatpharmacies are going toions year by allowing people to get treatpharmacies are going to run that pharmacies are going to run through. those conditions through. what those conditions are . arnie are very shortly. arnie this initiative, come initiative, though, doesn't come cheap. £645 million would lobbying that service again aren't we would expand pharmacy services to also allow them to prescribe more medications perform blood pressure checks. it comes just the day after we were hearing about £240 million.
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where's all this money coming from to essentially update the phone services at your local gp with a view of you. therefore being able to get a gp appointment or being diverted to appointment or being diverted to a better source, a quicker source as quickly possible, source as quickly as possible, get waiting times down. source as quickly as possible, get me waiting times down. source as quickly as possible, get me nowting times down. source as quickly as possible, get me now isg times down. source as quickly as possible, get me now is doctor; down. source as quickly as possible, get me now is doctor jess/n. with me now is doctor jess harvey, nhs gp. thank you harvey, an nhs gp. thank you very much, doctor jess okay . is very much, doctor jess okay. is this going to work or do you know? i admire their optimism, but know? i admire their optimism, har h:— know? i admire their optimism, har ., h— know? i admire their optimism, har ., h hea-r— know? i admire their optimism, but i, i don't want— know? i admire their optimism, but i, i don't want to- “ i admire their optimism, but i, i don't want to sound eweheah— but i, i don't want to sound cynicalv har— but i, i don't want to sound cynicalv har h— but i, i don't want to sound cynical, but i really i hope it whrh— cynical, but i really i hope it whhh. har— cynical, but i really i hope it whhh. har ar— cynical, but i really i hope it will. but at the— cynical, but i really i hope it will. but at the end of the day, whar— will. but at the end of the day, whar rhew-re— will. but at the end of the day, what they're not— will. but at the end of the day, what they're not doing is hhereaehhg— what they're not doing is increasing the- what they're not doing is increasing the workforce. what rhew-re— increasing the workforce. what rhew-re her— increasing the workforce. what they're not doing— increasing the workforce. what they're not doing is giving us more money to— they're not doing is giving us more money to employ more nurses and more money to employ more nurses aha—mere— more money to employ more nurses aha—mere erher- and more doctors, more other heahrh—rhar- and more doctors, more other health _that can. health professional that can here— health professional that can here-heehhe-e- health professional that can help people's health help out with people's health erehheme— help out with people's health erehheme .— help out with people's health erehheme . h— help out with people's health problems. i think it is good rhar— problems. i think it is good that pharmacists are going to be ahhe— that pharmacists are going to be ahhe re— that pharmacists are going to be ahhe re have— that pharmacists are going to be able to have more— that pharmacists are going to be able to have more access to merhearheh— able to have more access to medication options to prescribe for medication options to prescribe her-mhher— medication options to prescribe for minor ailments, and for those minor ailments, and i rhhhh— for those minor ailments, and i rhhhh rhar— for those minor ailments, and i think that will— for those minor ailments, and i think that will certainly erevhae— think that will certainly erevhae-a- think that will certainly provide a good think that will certainly- provide-a good access for provide a good a good access for heeae— provide a good a good access for here .— provide a good a good access for eeeehe . har— provide a good a good access for eeeehe . har ar— provide a good a good access for people . but at the— provide a good a good access for people . but at the end of the people. but at the end of the day,— people. but at the end of the dayv h— people. but at the end of the dayv h rhhhh— people. but at the end of the day, i think what— people. but at the end of the day, i think what people are regaeerhhg— day, i think what people are regaeerhhg he— day, i think what people are requesting is that they have- more—appointments more access to gp appointments whrh—ear—
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more access to gp appointments whrh—ear hareee- more access to gp appointments with our nurses and with us and with our nurses and erher— with us and with our nurses and erher-aha— with us and with our nurses and erher-aha h— with us and with our nurses and other-and i think- with us and with our nurses and other and i think that's other staff and i think that's whar— other staff and i think that's whar we— other staff and i think that's what we really— other staff and i think that's what we really need money to what we really need the money to do. what we really need the money to he. — what we really need the money to he. yeah— what we really need the money to he. veah. whar— what we really need the money to do. yeah, what this— what we really need the money to do. yeah, what this does- what we really need the money to do. ’iie’“ 3 what we really need the money to do. /rt;e“ do. yeah, what this does not do is number gps is increase the number of gps and can't help but for and i can't help but wonder for the near £1 billion that we are now spending on new phones and pharmacists doing more really whether or not we could have paid more gps. whether or not we could have paid more gps . yeah yeah. paid more gps. yeah yeah. basically i don't— paid more gps. yeah yeah. basically i don't want- r3 c / yeah. basically i don't want to say to rhar— basically i don't want to say to rhar erher— basically i don't want to say to that other than— basically i don't want to say to that other than i— basically i don't want to say to that other than i agree. it's ramw— that other than i agree. it's funny because— that other than i agree. it's funny because we've we've got fancy— funny because we've we've got rahew ehehe— funny because we've we've got fancy phone systems that are mere— fancy phone systems that are here .— fancy phone systems that are here . whar— fancy phone systems that are there . what we— fancy phone systems that are there . what we are short of is there. what we are short of is people— there. what we are short of is eeeehe re— there. what we are short of is people to answer— there. what we are short of is people to answer them at the end of people to answer them at the end erlheeaaee— people to answer them at the end oflbecause-don't- people to answer them at the end of because don't want of it because people don't want to of it because people don't want re werh— of it because people don't want re werh eh— of it because people don't want to work on reception because reeehrhehhere— to work on reception because receptionists get— to work on reception because receptionists get such hard receptionists get such a hard rhme— receptionists get such a hardi rhme—ahaee. receptionists get such a hard- time_abuse. and time and get so much abuse. and so_an area that. so that's certainly an area that i so that's certainly an area that h-eeaha— so that's certainly an area that h-eeaha he— so that's certainly an area that i could be improved on at i think could be improved on at the i think could be improved on at me ehe— i think could be improved on at me ehe er— i think could be improved on at the end of the— i think could be improved on at the end of the day, having a there— the end of the day, having a there ewerem— the end of the day, having a phone system that calls you back gaheher—her- phone system that calls you back gaheher—her er- quicker that actually a lot of earerheeg— quicker that actually a lot of surgeries already for surgeries have already paid for out surgeries have already paid for ear—mehew- surgeries have already paid for. ear—mehew-heh-r out of their own money and isn't going— out of their own money and isn't gehhg—eareemel out of their own money and isn't gehhg—eareeme ari going to change the outcome at the going to change the outcome at rhe-hr.— going to change the outcome at rhe-hr. hhe— going to change the outcome at the-it. and _what. the end of it. and that's what h-m — the end of it. and that's what h-m _vheee- the end of it. and that's what i'm _viewers really. i'm sure your viewers really wahr— i'm sure your viewers really wahr-happen:- i'm sure your viewers really wahr-happen: hel i'm sure your viewers really want happen, is how i'm sure your viewers really- want-happen, is how much want to have happen, is how much gaheher— want to have happen, is how much gaheher aeeeee— want to have happen, is how much quicker access to _ want to have happen, is how much quicker access to us. _ want to have happen, is how much quicker access to us. it's not her— quicker access to us. it's not her rhe— quicker access to us. it's not her he wahr— quicker access to us. it's not for the want of— quicker access to us. it's not for the want of us- quicker access to us. it's not for the want of us trying . i can for the want of us trying. i can hremhee— for the want of us trying. i can eremhee-rhar— for the want of us trying. i can
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promise-that there- for the want of us trying. i can promise that there more promise you that there are more aeeehhrmehre— promise you that there are more. appointments—ever appointments happening than ever refere—haer- before, but demand is just earerrheehhg— before, but demand is just outstripping what outstripping capacity. what amh— outstripping capacity. what until-increase- outstripping capacity. what until increase that until you can increase that eaeaehw— until you can increase that capacityv rheh — until you can increase that capacity, then things aren't going— capacity, then things aren't gehhg re— capacity, then things aren't going to change. what would you say, going to change. what would you eaw: hearer— going to change. what would you eaw, heerer heee— going to change. what would you say, doctor jess, then to people whe— say, doctor jess, then to people whelrhghr. — say, doctor jess, then to people who-right. what- say, doctor jess, then to people who i right. what the - who go right. what the government here is doing is making the gp's making sure that the gp's receptionist deal sorts the wheat from the chaff before it gets to you. pharmacists are pulling their weight and the members the public are having members of the public are having to suck up the fact that they might have the comfort from might not have the comfort from seeing time seeing a gp every single time they they'll have go they want to. they'll have to go to the pharmacist, example. to the pharmacist, for example. those their bit those people are doing their bit and gps now are going to have to going to step up to the going to have to step up to the plate and work harder and work longer because everyone else is doing their bit. what would you say to that ? i don't think gp's say to that? i don't think gp's eeaha— say to that? i don't think gp's eeaha werh— say to that? i don't think gp's could work any— sec7 i don't think gp's could work any harder. i think if could work any harder. i think hr wea-ve— could work any harder. i think hr weave ger— could work any harder. i think hr weave ger a— could work any harder. i think if you've got a system that's ahreaaw— if you've got a system that's already working— if you've got a system that's already working at capacity, how can already working at capacity, how wea— already working at capacity, how can you increase— already working at capacity, how can you increase that? that's hhe— can you increase that? that's like—someone'sl can you increase that? that's- like_someone's going like saying that someone's going to like saying that someone's going re—wea— like saying that someone's going re—wea rah-r.- like saying that someone's going re—wea eah-r andl to work 110. well you can't. and rhere-e— to work 110. well you can't. and rhere-elreahhrw— to work 110. well you can't. and there'slreality in— to work 110. well you can't. and there's reality in that people there's a reality in that people wahr— there's a reality in that people wahr aha— there's a reality in that people want and expect— there's a reality in that people want and expect and i think ehearh— want and expect and i think should expect— want and expect and i think should expect us to be working earehw—
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should expect us to be working earehw aha— should expect us to be working earehw and h— should expect us to be working safely and if you— should expect us to be working safely and if you expect us to, rhea— safely and if you expect us to, men raer— safely and if you expect us to, men we eee— safely and if you expect us to, then just see. so— safely and if you expect us to, then just see. so say we already hear— then just see. so say we already aeah whrh— then just see. so say we already aeah whrh ho— then just see. so say we already deal with 40 patients a day and you deal with 40 patients a day and wea eaw— deal with 40 patients a day and wea eaw, rhghh— deal with 40 patients a day and you say, right, okay, why can't you— you say, right, okay, why can't wea raer— you say, right, okay, why can't wea we hear— you say, right, okay, why can't you just deal with— you say, right, okay, why can't you just deal with 60? well, how heee— you just deal with 60? well, how heee rhar— you just deal with 60? well, how does that happen?— you just deal with 60? well, how does that happen? because the rhme— does that happen? because the rhme rhar— does that happen? because the time that we're— does that happen? because the time that we're going to be eeehhg— time that we're going to be eeehhg rheee— time that we're going to be seeing those people the same. seeing those people is the same. wehe— seeing those people is the same. were ahreahw— seeing those people is the same. we're already working sort of ten:— we're already working sort of re—ae- we're already working sort of re—ae hr- we're already working sort of re—ae hr he| we're already working sort of re—ae hr he.| ten, 11, 12 hour days as it is. se— ten, 11, 12 hour days as it is. se ve— ten, 11, 12 hour days as it is. so we haven't— ten, 11, 12 hour days as it is. so we haven't got the increased eahaehrw— so we haven't got the increased capacity ourselves— so we haven't got the increased capacity ourselves to do any se— capacity ourselves to do any more. so we are— capacity ourselves to do any more. so we are working at 100. here— more. so we are working at 100. hhere he— more. so we are working at 100. hhere he he— more. so we are working at 100. there is no more— more. so we are working at 100. there is no more that we can do. i there is no more that we can do. h rhhhh— there is no more that we can do. h rhhhh hre— there is no more that we can do. i think it's great— there is no more that we can do. i think it's great that there erher— i think it's great that there are other health professionals are— are other health professionals and h— are other health professionals and h rhhhh— are other health professionals and i think recognising that is and i think recognising that is a-geea— and i think recognising that is a-geea-we-ve- and i think recognising that isj a-good-we've got a really good thing. we've got here— a really good thing. we've got lots professionals lots of health professionals werhhhg— lots of health professionals. werhhhg—hhhe working in our surgeries like eharmaehere— working in our surgeries like pharmacists, dietitians pharmacists, physios, dietitians _aeeehaeer- pharmacists, physios, dietitians ,_associates, all- pharmacists, physios, dietitians ,_associates, all ofi , physicians, associates, all of rheee— , physicians, associates, all of rheee eeehare— , physicians, associates, all of those people who— , physicians, associates, all of those people who can all help. har— those people who can all help. har weare— those people who can all help. but you're completely in but you're completely right in rhar— but you're completely right in rhar-hhe— but you're completely right in that-and|think,- but you're completely right in that and think, is that respect. and i think, is here— that respect. and i think, is rhere-he— that respect. and i think, is there-is there- that respect. and i think, is there is there any. that respect. and i think, is- there-is there any. yeah. there time? is there any. yeah. is there time? is there any. yeah. he—re— there time? is there any. yeah. he—re rhe- there time? is there any. yeah. is_to the notion is there any truth to the notion that a gp can earn decent money on the nhs and then say work three days a week privately , is three days a week privately, is there any truth to the idea that if gps, all of our existing gps only did nhs work, that we wouldn't be in the mess that
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we're in? i don't think that's ehrhrehw— we're in? i don't think that's ehrhrehw he— we're in? i don't think that's entirely be entirely- ”rt; “7 i don't think that's entirely be entirely true and i rhhhh— entirely be entirely true and i rhhhh wea— entirely be entirely true and i think you could— entirely be entirely true and i think you could also say that of heehhrah— think you could also say that of hospital consultants because rhew— hospital consultants because rhew a— hospital consultants because rhew a her— hospital consultants because rhew a her er— hospital consultants because they a lot of them do private werh— they a lot of them do private werh ae— they a lot of them do private work as well. _ they a lot of them do private work as well. and i don't aeraahhw— work as well. and i don't actually know— work as well. and i don't actually know any of the gps heeahhw—whrh- actually know any of the gps. locally _with - do locally that i work with that do hrhvare— locally that i work with that do private-and— locally that i work with that do private -and we - locally that i work with that do private and we some of us private work. and we some of us have— private work. and we some of us have erher— private work. and we some of us have otherjobs_ private work. and we some of us have other jobs that private work. and we some of us have otherjobs that are have other jobs that are leadership— have other jobs that are leadership jobs. but that's rheee— those are jobs that have been erearea— those are jobs that have been created-that's- those are jobs that have been created that's how created because that's how the hrs— created because that's how the hrs-aha— created because that's how the hrs-aha ghvee- created because that's how the nhs and gives out funding nhs works and gives out funding and nhs works and gives out funding are rhar-e— nhs works and gives out funding and ham hev— nhs works and gives out funding and that's how we— nhs works and gives out funding and that's how we create new new erraeraree— and that's how we create new new erraeraree aha— and that's how we create new new structures and run— and that's how we create new new structures and run the health ewerem — structures and run the health system effectively . and so some system effectively. and so some of system effectively. and so some er ae— system effectively. and so some er ae ae— system effectively. and so some er ae he have— system effectively. and so some of us do have other— system effectively. and so some of us do have otherjobs, but rheee— of us do have otherjobs, but rheee are— of us do have otherjobs, but those are still— of us do have otherjobs, but those are still working within the those are still working within me hrs— those are still working within me are .— those are still working within me are . hr— those are still working within the nhs . if all— those are still working within the nhs . if all gps all worked the nhs. if all gps all worked eawe— the nhs. if all gps all worked eawe a— the nhs. if all gps all worked seven days a week and worked 12 hear— seven days a week and worked 12 hear eawe— seven days a week and worked 12 hear eawe rer— seven days a week and worked 12 hour days for those _ seven days a week and worked 12 hour days for those seven days a weeh— hour days for those seven days a weeh: weara— hour days for those seven days a week, would they— hour days for those seven days a week, would they have more appointments?— week, would they have more appointments? yes. would you have— appointments? yes. would you have a— appointments? yes. would you have a her— appointments? yes. would you have a lot more— appointments? yes. would you have a lot more people going off whrh— have a lot more people going off whrh ereee— have a lot more people going off with stress and— have a lot more people going off with stress and burnout? yes weara— with stress and burnout? yes. weaha—werhhhg would you have people working safety?— would you have people working mem—the- would you have people working safely?_the sorti safely? no. and is that the sort of-system— safely? no. and is that the sort of-system that- safely? no. and is that the sort of system that want of health system that you want to-no. — of health system that you want to-no. .how- of health system that you want to - no. - how are l of health system that you want. to-no.-how are you to work in? no. and how are you going— to work in? no. and how are you going-recruit— to work in? no. and how are you going-recruit-into- going to recruit trainees into that?— going to recruit trainees into that?_trainee| that? if you told the trainee right, — that? if you told the trainee right, you-e— that? if you told the trainee right, you're going to right, you're never going to have— right, you're never going to havelbreak_ right, you're never going to have l break erg - right, you're never going to have break erg you're right, you're never going to havelbreak erg you're to have a break erg you're going to work— have a break erg you're going to work-hours.— have a break erg you're going to work-hours-going. work horrible hours. it's going to_environmentl work horrible hours. it's going. to_environment and to be a horrible environment and people—
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to be a horrible environment and people-going— to be a horrible environment and people-going to- to be a horrible environment and people-going to be- people are just going to be abusive— people are just going to be abusive and— people are just going to be abusive and have go at abusive and just have a go at you— abusive and just have a go at you-time- abusive and just have a go at you-time and- abusive and just have a go at you-time and tell. abusive and just have a go at. you-time and tell you you the whole time and tell you that—very— you the whole time and tell you that—very good- you the whole time and tell you that-very good at- that you're not very good at your— that you're not very good at your-would- that you're not very good at your-would want. that you're not very good at your-would want go your job. who would want to go into— your job. who would want to go into-yeah.— your job. who would want to go into-yeah.-u- your job. who would want to go into-yeah,-i mean,| into that? yeah, well, i mean, you i've just described, unfortunately, job of unfortunately, the job of my producer, go. producer, but there we go. doctor been to doctor jess, it's been great to have you on the show. thank you very, much. it's doctor have you on the show. thank you very,harvey|uch. it's doctor have you on the show. thank you very,harvey there t's doctor have you on the show. thank you very,harvey there who octor have you on the show. thank you very,harvey there who istor have you on the show. thank you very,harvey there who is an nhs jess harvey there who is an nhs gp. you are with me, gp. so anyway, you are with me, patrick christys, right here on gb go anywhere patrick christys, right here on gb up go anywhere patrick christys, right here on gb up next go anywhere patrick christys, right here on gb up next you go anywhere patrick christys, right here on gb up next you willanywhere because up next you will be discussing will be discussing discussing we will be discussing fox to fox hunting because according to a vets, believe it or a group of vets, believe it or not, the hunting ban has caused a decline in foxes a catastrophic decline in foxes in the uk. is it the best thing for foxes to hunt them? and labour leader sir keir starmer has said that people don't care about woke that's going to be a good one. right now though, it's your polly . your headlines with polly. patrick. thank you. the top stories— patrick. thank you. the top stories this— patrick. thank you. the top stories this hour,— m thank you. the top stories this hour, the information- stories this hour, the information commissioner's office— information commissioner's office says— information commissioner's office says it— information commissioner's office says it won't be taking any— office says it won't be taking any action— office says it won't be taking any action against lancashire pence— any action against lancashire pence ove— any action against lancashire police over its— any action against lancashire police over its disclosure of nicole— police over its disclosure of nicola bullies— police over its disclosure of nicola bullies personal information.— nicola bullies personal information. the force came
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under— information. the force came under criticism— information. the force came under criticism after the 45 year— under criticism after the 45 yea alas— under criticism after the 45 year old's body— under criticism after the 45 year old's body was discovered in me— year old's body was discovered an the aver— year old's body was discovered in the river in— year old's body was discovered in the river in february . in the river in february. meanwhile,— in the river in february. meanwhile, the police watchdog , meanwhile, the police watchdog, the independent— meanwhile, the police watchdog, the independent office for panca— the independent office for police conduct, also says its identity— police conduct, also says its identity aea— police conduct, also says its identity tied to _ police conduct, also says its identity tied to areas of teaming— identity tied to areas of learning after the force had contact— learning after the force had contact with _ learning after the force had contact with nicola bully in the days— contact with nicola bully in the days before— contact with nicola bully in the days before she— contact with nicola bully in the days before she went missing. an independent— days before she went missing. an independent review by the cottage— independent review by the cauaga af— independent review by the college of policing into the handy...— college of policing into the handling of— college of policing into the handling of the— college of policing into the handling of the case is also underway. — handling of the case is also underway. ns— handling of the case is also underway. its findings will be published— underway. its findings will be published us— underway. its findings will be published in the— underway. its findings will be published in the autumn . the met published in the autumn. the met pause— published in the autumn. the met police commissioner has defended his eases— police commissioner has defended his force's policing— police commissioner has defended his force's policing of the coronation— his force's policing of the coronation after it was criticised _ coronation after it was criticised for- coronation after it was criticised for arresting six repuuueau— criticised for arresting six republican protesters ahead of the republican protesters ahead of use even-e— republican protesters ahead of the event. sir— republican protesters ahead of the event. sir mark rowley aeseuaea— the event. sir mark rowley described the _ the event. sir mark rowley described the arrest as unfortunate _ described the arrest as unfortunate but stressed he suppeaaea— unfortunate but stressed he suppeuea aae— unfortunate but stressed he supported the arresting emcee-s— supported the arresting officer's actions . the force officer's actions. the force eeufumea— officer's actions. the force confirmed the _ officer's actions. the force confirmed the individuals face no confirmed the individuals face ue further— confirmed the individuals face no further action— confirmed the individuals face no further action after being seeppea— no further action after being seepaea undea— no further action after being stopped under the new public eaaee— stopped under the new public order asa— stopped under the new public order asa .— stopped under the new public order act . the— stopped under the new public order act . the prime minister order act. the prime minister has— order act. the prime minister has asse— order act. the prime minister has also said— order act. the prime minister has also said he— order act. the prime minister has also said he supports people-s— has also said he supports people-s agha— has also said he supports people's right to protest, but says— people's right to protest, but says use— people's right to protest, but says use new— people's right to protest, but says the new laws are needed to preseas— says the new laws are needed to preaeea against— says the new laws are needed to protect against serious assaupueu— protect against serious disruption and the former prime minister— disruption and the former prime minister ei— disruption and the former prime minister of pakistan has been arrested— minister of pakistan has been arresiei ny— minister of pakistan has been arrested by anti—corruption neiiee—
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arrested by anti—corruption noise in— arrested by anti—corruption police in islamabad. his sunneners— police in islamabad. his supporters being told, shut the eeuniry— supporters being told, shut the eeuniry aann. — supporters being told, shut the country down. footage has emerged— country down. footage has emerged showing paramilitaries in risi— emerged showing paramilitaries in riei gear— emerged showing paramilitaries in riot gear surrounding him inside— in riot gear surrounding him inside a— in riot gear surrounding him inside a courtroom. the move has led inside a courtroom. the move has iei ia— inside a courtroom. the move has iei re nreiesis— inside a courtroom. the move has led to protests in— inside a courtroom. the move has led to protests in mr— inside a courtroom. the move has led to protests in mr khan's neneieun— led to protests in mr khan's hometown of— led to protests in mr khan's hometown of lahore and members of nis— hometown of lahore and members of his political— hometown of lahore and members of his political party are eaiiine— of his political party are calling for— of his political party are calling for support. imran khan eusiei— calling for support. imran khan was ousted from _ calling for support. imran khan was ousted from power in a nariianeniary— was ousted from power in a parliamentary vote in april last year— parliamentary vote in april last year ani— parliamentary vote in april last year and ine— parliamentary vote in april last year and the prime minister has reieeiei— year and the prime minister has rejected claims— year and the prime minister has rejected claims by— year and the prime minister has rejected claims by the russian nresiieni— rejected claims by the russian president that— rejected claims by the russian president that the west is to iiane— president that the west is to iiane rer— president that the west is to blame for the— president that the west is to blame for the war in ukraine. ieisni— blame for the war in ukraine. ieisni sunan— blame for the war in ukraine. rishi sunak says— blame for the war in ukraine. rishi sunak says president putin is ine— rishi sunak says president putin is ine eniy— rishi sunak says president putin is the only person— rishi sunak says president putin is the only person response nessiiie— is the only person response nessiiie rer— is the only person response possible for the— is the only person response possible for the invasion that ne-s— possible for the invasion that ne-s eaiiei— possible for the invasion that he's called illegal and unprovoked— he's called illegal and unprovoked .- he's called illegal and unprovoked . it follows comments unprovoked. it follows comments by unprovoked. it follows comments iy viaiinir— unprovoked. it follows comments by vladimir putin— unprovoked. it follows comments by vladimir putin made during a sneeen— by vladimir putin made during a sneeen ai— by vladimir putin made during a speech at russia's— by vladimir putin made during a speech at russia's annual victory— speech at russia's annual vieiery nay— speech at russia's annual victory day parade , where he victory day parade, where he eiainei— victory day parade, where he eiainei a— victory day parade, where he claimed a so—called real war is being— claimed a so—called real war is being wageri— claimed a so—called real war is being waged and— claimed a so—called real war is being waged and is the country is defending— being waged and is the country is defending its— being waged and is the country is defending its sovereignty . is defending its sovereignty. vure— is defending its sovereignty. vure un— is defending its sovereignty. vure up is— is defending its sovereignty. you're up to date on tv , online, you're up to date on tv, online, dani — you're up to date on tv, online, dani raiie— you're up to date on tv, online, dab+ radio and— you're up to date on tv, online, dab+ radio and on— you're up to date on tv, online, dab+ radio and on the tune—in app-— dab+ radio and on the tune—in ann. inis— dab+ radio and on the tune—in ann. inis is— dab+ radio and on the tune—in ann. inis is en— dab+ radio and on the tune—in app. this is gb news. direct
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news . channel— the people's channel, britain's news . channel okay , ladies and news. channel okay, ladies and geniienen. — news. channel okay, ladies and gentlemen. right.— news. channel okay, ladies and gentlemen. tig grin gentlemen. right. so we've got loads coming your way, including a big debate on fox hunting because a group of vets have been saying that actually the fox population declined fox population has declined massively. would have thought fox population has declined massiveljlikevould have thought fox population has declined massiveljlike yourself le thought fox population has declined massiveljlike yourself asthought fox population has declined massiveljlike yourself as well, it possibly, like yourself as well, unless maybe you are much more intelligent than am, which is intelligent than i am, which is a let's honest. a low bar. let's be honest. is that fox hunting would have depleted fox's lives in existence , and actually banning existence, and actually banning fox hunting would mean that we would have a surge of rural foxes and indeed the urban fox, which is plaguing many urban areas . but no, apparently areas now. but no, apparently farmers just shooting the farmers are just shooting the living of them on living heck out of them on a much greater rate than they were when they were hunting them. and now have out now actual vets have come out and said that the thing that we need possibly bring need to do is possibly bring back all of back fox hunting. and all of this, is according to this, of course, is according to a signed a of. a letter signed by a group of. so going to be having so i'm going to be having a debate that shortly. debate on that shortly. all right. wanted to right. but what i wanted to bnng right. but what i wanted to bring to your attention earlier on article that on was another article that caught my earlier, is caught my eye earlier, which is supposed oddly now with this work home culture that we
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work from home culture that we had now now had during coronavirus. now now 40% of people shock, horror are saying, actually, i really regret choosing to work from home. i'm lonely, i'm depressed. it's contributing towards my marital problems. it's contributing towards everything. there's no escape . i maybe live there's no escape. i maybe live in a one bedroom flat in some kind city somewhere and my kind of city somewhere and my home and i'm sick home is my office and i'm sick of so went out and of it. and so i went out and about early on to ask people whether or not they think that working from actually working from home is actually affecting or are they more affecting them or are they more or less productive . let's play or less productive. let's play the clip. i think working from home poses a lot of positives , home poses a lot of positives, but also negatives. i think it's nersenai— but also negatives. i think it's personal preference.- but also negatives. i think it's personal preference. i- g i think it's personal preference. i don't work— personal preference. i don't work fren— personal preference. i don't work from home. i'm a hairdresser.— work from home. i'm a hairdresser. but but my husband uses— hairdresser. but but my husband aees ani— hairdresser. but but my husband rises and ii— hairdresser. but but my husband does and it works— hairdresser. but but my husband does and it works well for his nui— does and it works well for his career. but it— does and it works well for his career. but it doesn't for mine. no,— career. but it doesn't for mine. an. i— career. but it doesn't for mine. an. i think— career. but it doesn't for mine. an. i think i— career. but it doesn't for mine. no, i think i need— career. but it doesn't for mine. no, i think i need those- career. but it doesn't for mine. no, i think i need those days to get away from, like, office work because, because you because, you know, because you get people who, like, get a lot of people who, like, ask you questions. so you need like ask you questions. so you need iiie ine— ask you questions. so you need iiie ine nay— ask you questions. so you need like the day where— ask you questions. so you need like the day where-can- so you need like the day where can kind like the day where you can kind of like the day where you can kind ear-ine— like the day where you can kind ei-ine ai— like the day where you can kind ei-ine ai ani- like the day where you can kind of-the ai and just- of turn off the ai and just work. — of turn off the ai and just work. definitely work work. so i definitely i work inree— work. so i definitely i work inree nays— work. so i definitely i work three days office and then work. so i definitely i work thre atiays office and then work. so i definitely i work threat home. office and then work. so i definitely i work threat home. so ce and then work. so i definitely i work threat home. so la and then work. so i definitely i work threat home. so i think then work. so i definitely i work threat home. so i think it en work. so i definitely i work threat home. so i think it helps two at home. so i think it helps me witn— two at home. so i think it helps
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me with productivity overall . me with productivity overall. iine, — me with productivity overall. iine, i— me with productivity overall. iine, i aan-i— me with productivity overall. like, i don't know that i'm neeessariiy— like, i don't know that i'm necessarily productive, as necessarily more productive, as productive. — necessarily more productive, as nreiueiive-un- necessarily more productive, as productive. um, but yeah, productive. okay um, but yeah, i ieiiniieiy— productive. okay um, but yeah, i definitely don't— productive. okay um, but yeah, i definitely don't think i could do definitely don't think i could is iuiiy— definitely don't think i could as iuiiy warn— definitely don't think i could do fully work from home. and i nersenaiiy— do fully work from home. and i personally like— do fully work from home. and i personally like working from name. — personally like working from name. vau— personally like working from home. you know,- personally like working from home. 43. personally like working from home. 41 q1 personally like working from- home. you know, i've got a young family, so really to , easy family, so it's really to, easy you know, look after the kids, you know, look after the kids, you if boss or your you know, if your boss or your next job, whatever said to you, look , you've got to work in the look, you've got to work in the office day, that be office every day, would that be a no for you? yes, would. a no no for you? yes, it would. yeah, i wouldn't consider that . yeah, i wouldn't consider that. yeah, i wouldn't consider that. yeah, yeah, yeah. i mean, i think it's really important to have a good, you know, flexible work life balance. and i think things have moved on, you know, in, in the last couple of years, you know, i think the genie's out of the bottle and you can't really can't really it really you can't really put it back in now, you know, it's. yeah. so yeah, it would be a deal breaker yeah so you deal breaker for me. yeah so you don't the in the don't need like the time in the morning the evening to, morning and in the evening to, you know, travel to the office and don't know, i think you and i don't know, i think you just more in the just have like more time in the end. it was one of those ones tnougn— end. it was one of those ones ineuen-as— end. it was one of those ones ineuen-as i- end. it was one of those ones though,-as i started. though, as soon as i started rising—anem- though, as soon as i startedi doing—them the doing it and asking them the question— doing it and asking them the. question,_honest
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doing it and asking them the- question,_honest ? question, are you being honest? are you— question, are you being honest? are you re— question, are you being honest? are you er— question, are you being honest? are you more or less productive warning— are you more or less productive ming-homes- are you more or less productive- working-home?-could working from home? and you could just see them all realised eieariy— just see them all realised clearly that— just see them all realised clearly that their boss might anar— clearly that their boss might see that .they're - clearly that their boss might see that they're hardly see that and they're hardly going— see that and they're hardly going yeah, going to come out and say, yeah, you— going to come out and say, yeah, you knew— going to come out and say, yeah, you knew unau— going to come out and say, yeah, you knew nnat, i— going to come out and say, yeah, you know what, i actually spend all—drinking- you know what, i actually spend all-but-drinking- you know what, i actually spend all but there drinking you know what, i actually spend all but there we drinking you know what, i actually spend all but there we go. nking you know what, i actually spend all but there we go. anyway, wine, but there we go. anyway, some worthwhile— wine, but there we go. anyway, some worthwhile content . some worthwhile content. according— some worthwhile content. according telegraph, the according to the telegraph, the nuniing—a- hunting ban has caused a catastrophic— hunting ban has caused a. catastrophic-foxes hunting ban has caused a- catastrophic-foxes in catastrophic decline of foxes in the catastrophic decline of foxes in ine un— catastrophic decline of foxes in ine un. inis— catastrophic decline of foxes in the uk. this comes as vets claim the uk. this comes as vets claim ine isa— the uk. this comes as vets claim the fox population— the uk. this comes as vets claim the fox population has plummeted in ine— the fox population has plummeted in ine nake— the fox population has plummeted in ine wane ei— the fox population has plummeted in the wake of the— the fox population has plummeted in the wake of the 2004 hunting asi- — in the wake of the 2004 hunting asi- irenieaiiy— in the wake of the 2004 hunting act. ironically jeremy hunt, who is new— act. ironically jeremy hunt, who is now chancellor— act. ironically jeremy hunt, who is now chancellor a— act. ironically jeremy hunt, who is now chancellor a couple of years— is now chancellor a couple of years age— is now chancellor a couple of years ago advocated for bringing nasn— years ago advocated for bringing nasn nunnn— years ago advocated for bringing back hunting, made back hunting, which made a sensational— back hunting, which made a sensational headline at the time. — sensational headline at the time. i— sensational headline at the time. i hope— sensational headline at the time. i hope it— sensational headline at the time. i hope it happens again so we time. i hope it happens again so rue—nuna— time. i hope it happens again so ue—nuni en- time. i hope it happens again so we_hunt on the- time. i hope it happens again sol we_hunt on the hunt we can rule out hunt on the hunt .—eaii— we can rule out hunt on the hunt .—eaii rer— we can rule out hunt on the hunt .—eaii ier ine- . but as they call for the geyernneni— . but as they call for the government to- . but as they call for the government to launch a scientific _ government to launch a scientific review, more than 100 vers— scientific review, more than 100 veis-nriiien— scientific review, more than 100 vets -written to _ scientific review, more than 100 vets written to ministers vets have written to ministers warning— vets have written to ministers warning-despite- vets have written to ministers warning despite decades of warning that despite decades of iniense— warning that despite decades of intense debate,— warning that despite decades of intense debate, there is no research that— intense debate, there is no research that backs up the argunenis— research that backs up the arguments of— research that backs up the arguments of the most humane way to arguments of the most humane way is centroi— arguments of the most humane way is eenirei rea— arguments of the most humane way to control fox numbers. we to control fox numbers. so do we need— to control fox numbers. so do we need is— to control fox numbers. so do we need is bring— to control fox numbers. so do we need to bring back— to control fox numbers. so do we need to bring back fox hunting for ine— need to bring back fox hunting for ine sane— need to bring back fox hunting for the sake of— need to bring back fox hunting for the sake of the foxes? 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ask you— robert gordon diggory. i'll just ask you ,— robert gordon diggory. i'll just ask you , should— robert gordon diggory. i'll just ask you , should we bring back ask you, should we bring back fox ask you, should we bring back fax nuniine— ask you, should we bring back fax nuniing e— ask you, should we bring back fox hunting ? it's— ask you, should we bring back fox hunting ? it's never going to fox hunting? it's never going to nannen. — fox hunting? it's never going to nannen. ray— fox hunting? it's never going to happen. fox hunting- fox hunting? it's never going to happen. q happen. fox hunting was banned for emotive reasons. there were never any scientific reasons behind it. it was purely moral outrage and a bit of class warfare, in my opinion . it was warfare, in my opinion. it was something that tony blair, through as a sop to the left wing of the labour party and because it enabled him to get their backing to do other things that important that he thought were important to get done , it's very difficult to get done, it's very difficult to get done, it's very difficult to put this back on the on the list of freedoms once it's been taken away. i think getting parliamentary time for it would be and i think be very difficult and i think it's got such a bad reputation in the in country at large in the in the country at large because people are, you know, largely big on emotion and weak on facts when it comes to making these sorts of decisions. i just don't see it happening. yeah, exactly. for anyone who- tar" c c " q yeah, exactly. for anyone who thinks i iusi— exactly. for anyone who thinks i iusi rearing— exactly. for anyone who thinks i was just texting on— exactly. for anyone who thinks i was just texting on my phone, tney-re— was just texting on my phone, iney-re—ieinel was just texting on my phone,- they're_being weak was just texting on my phone,- thefacts._being weak was just texting on my phone,- thefacts. i-being weak was just texting on my phone, thefacts. i was being weak was just texting on my phone, thefacts. i was reminding g weak was just texting on my phone, thefacts. i was reminding myself on facts. i was reminding myself of on facts. i was reminding myself ear—men.— on facts. i was reminding myself of_them. that's- on facts. i was reminding myself of them. that's what of a couple of them. that's what i of a couple of them. that's what i was— of a couple of them. that's what iwas saying.— of a couple of them. that's what i was saying. more— of a couple of them. that's what i was saying. more than 100 vets nave— i was saying. more than 100 vets nawe wriiien— i was saying. more than 100 vets have written to— i was saying. more than 100 vets have written to these ministers
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_iney- have written to these ministersi _iney saying have written to these ministersi ncthat_they saying have written to these ministers ncthat the they saying have written to these ministers ncthat the fox they saying have written to these ministers ncthat the fox numbersy saying have written to these ministers ncthat the fox numbers have ng is that the fox numbers have aeiuaiiy— is that the fox numbers have. aeiuaiiy—was actually plummeted. so it was signed— actually plummeted. so it was signed by— actually plummeted. so it was signed iy ros— actually plummeted. so it was signed by 103 vets. and they're saying — signed by 103 vets. and they're saying population saying that the fox population is-iewesi— is at its lowest level, dangerously- dangerously low levels. and wads— dangerously low levels. and inads—aswl dangerously low levels. andi wads—asn yeu that's what i want to ask you waned.— that's what i want to ask you now, robert. do— that's what i want to ask you now, robert. do you think that were— now, robert. do you think that were is— now, robert. do you think that were is a— now, robert. do you think that were is a-i— now, robert. do you think that there is a-i think- now, robert. do you think that there is a-i think i. now, robert. do you think that there is a i think i can there is a i mean, i think i can guess— there is a i mean, i think i can guessan-ser— there is a i mean, i think i can guess-answer-but. there is a i mean, i think i can guess answer but there guess the answer here, but there is—a— guess the answer here, but there is—a ia- guess the answer here, but there is_a case to bring- is potentially a case to bring nasn— is potentially a case to bring nasn-nundng— is potentially a case to bring back-huntinglit- is potentially a case to bring back hunting it actually back fox hunting if it actually. means—bizarrely means that more foxes bizarrely inde— means that more foxes bizarrely come into existence in first come into existence in the first niaee— come into existence in the first nine. — come into existence in the first nine. i— come into existence in the first nine. iininw— come into existence in the first place.- i think the- come into existence in the first. place.- i think the challenge place. why i think the challenge here isn't that fox hunting has been banned and populations are declining . think that declining. i think it's that they're being shot way too much , way too excessively and there are much better solutions. it's not a binary choice. do we shoot foxes or not a binary choice. do we shoot fees or de— not a binary choice. do we shoot fees or do we— not a binary choice. do we shoot foxes or do we hunt— not a binary choice. do we shoot foxes or do we hunt them- “33 (“to qq; do we shoot foxes or do we hunt them with neunds— foxes or do we hunt them with hounds where— foxes or do we hunt them with hounds where we— foxes or do we hunt them with hounds where we know they get darn— hounds where we know they get iern anan— hounds where we know they get iern anari e — hounds where we know they get torn apart ? and— hounds where we know they get torn apart ? and it's- hounds where we know they get torn apart ? 'q c q. torn apart? and it's quite vicious ? or maybe there are vicious? or maybe there are better solutions . maybe, you better solutions. maybe, you know, we transition to a plant based food system. we can rewild the freed up land and we can return the habitat to the foxes who actually , you know, play who actually, you know, play a really crucial ecosystem function. 100. yeah is there not inaugn— function. 100. yeah is there not inaugn degree— function. 100. yeah is there not though, degree in— ii. iii“ �*00 i425?" is there not though, degree in arguing it. 1 �*00 i431 is there not though, degree in arguing to q 1 �*00 i431 is there not though, degree in arguing to say the though, degree in arguing to say we faxes— though, degree in arguing to say the foxes need— though, degree in arguing to say the foxes need to— though, degree in arguing to say the foxes need to be killed
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serneewn— the foxes need to be killed somehow because it is essentially— somehow because it is essentially pest control, wneiner— essentially pest control, whether it's— essentially pest control, whether it's hunting or shooting , isn-i— whether it's hunting or shooting , isn-i ire— whether it's hunting or shooting , isn-i ire wed— whether it's hunting or shooting , isn't it? well yes. " , isn't it? well yes. i mean, fax— , isn't it? well yes. i mean, fox hunting started off as a method of pest control and it was a very efficient way of getting rid of the weak foxes, the injured foxes and the sick foxes and the old foxes, which is what hunting did very few fully grown healthy . fox adult fully grown healthy. fox adult foxes were killed by hounds . so foxes were killed by hounds. so in that case it actually did keep a healthier population of foxes. now people were warned right at the beginning when this idea of banning fox hunting was mooted that more foxes would die as a result of it. people closed their ears to that, but it was made very clear that what happens when foxes aren't controlled by hunting that controlled by hunting is that landowners or farmers who's whose use and lambs are preyed on by foxes . even the rspb who's on by foxes. even the rspb who's who acknowledged that ground nesting birds and waders are heavily predated by foxes , as heavily predated by foxes, as are leverets and all sorts of other vulnerable species . the
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other vulnerable species. the way that they're then controlled is by shooting and shooting is less discriminate. saying you go out at night with night vision equipment . a lot of the time you equipment. a lot of the time you spot a fox , you shoot it, spot a fox, you shoot it, whether it's old, whether it's young, whether sick, you young, whether it's sick, you shoot the foxes, see. and we shoot the foxes, you see. and we knew this was to happen. knew this was going to happen. it signposted . and when it was well signposted. and when the ban was first mooted all those years ago , so, so robert, those years ago, so, so robert, in your blissful utopia of a rewild world and a plant based diet. et rewild world and a plant based diet . et cetera. to be fair rewild world and a plant based diet. et cetera. to be fair , rewild world and a plant based diet . et cetera. to be fair , how diet. et cetera. to be fair, how do you— diet. et cetera. to be fair, how do you answer— diet. et cetera. to be fair, how do you account for— q et cetera. to be fair, how do you account for things like rapid— do you account for things like rapid population— do you account for things like rapid population growth amongst nenuiaiiens— rapid population growth amongst populations like— rapid population growth amongst populations like foxes, which add— populations like foxes, which eeuid nave— populations like foxes, which could have a— populations like foxes, which could have a huge impact on diner— could have a huge impact on other aspects— could have a huge impact on other aspects of— could have a huge impact on other aspects of the ecosystem? i other aspects of the ecosystem? i — other aspects of the ecosystem? i ids— other aspects of the ecosystem? i is a— other aspects of the ecosystem? i mean, it's a lovely idea, but is i— i mean, it's a lovely idea, but is it practical?— i mean, it's a lovely idea, but is it practical? robert yeah, wew— is it practical? robert yeah, wen, i— is it practical? robert yeah, well, i think— is it practical? robert yeah, well, i think there's a few considerations— well, i think there's a few considerations here. �*" considerations here. the first is snar— considerations here. the first is that since the hunting ban in 2004, hunting actually does still continue because it's a very weak form of legislation in so the majority of hunts still continue to hunt illegally now. but under the guise of what's
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called trail hunting . so hunting called trail hunting. so hunting and shooting is still happening simultaneously . so the problem simultaneously. so the problem here is excessively shooting the foxes when we should be giving them land back to exhibit their natural behaviours, their natural behaviours, their natural predation , which when natural predation, which when you say giving them land back, can i just ask robert. sorry, just just just quickly.- sorry, just just just quickly. sorry, waned.— just just just quickly. sorry, robert. just— just just just quickly. sorry, robert. just when comes about robert. just when it comes about giving— robert. just when it comes about giving ine— robert. just when it comes about giving ine dand— robert. just when it comes about giving the land back the giving the land back to the faxes— giving the land back to the faxes-wnat- giving the land back to the foxes what land have we foxes, what, what land have we taken— foxes, what, what land have we taken from — foxes, what, what land have we taken from foxes— foxes, what, what land have we taken from foxes apart from , um, taken from foxes apart from, um, dine— taken from foxes apart from, um, die iuiiding— taken from foxes apart from, um, like building towns and cities wnere— like building towns and cities where humans— like building towns and cities where humans can live? i mean, if you— where humans can live? i mean, i you iusi— where humans can live? i mean, i you iusi idy— where humans can live? i mean, if you just fly over— where humans can live? i mean, if you just fly over england, vou— if you just fly over england, you see— if you just fly over england, yeu nuge— if you just fly over england, you see huge swathes of the eeuniryside. — you see huge swathes of the countryside. i— you see huge swathes of the countryside. i mean, what land do we— countryside. i mean, what land do we need— countryside. i mean, what land do we need is— countryside. i mean, what land do we need to give back to forese— do we need to give back to foxes? yeah.— do we need to give back to foxes? yeah. so— do we need to give back to foxes? yeah. so these huge swaines— foxes? yeah. so these huge swaines ei— foxes? yeah. so these huge swathes of countryside that we see are actually— swathes of countryside that we see are actually managed iarniand— see are actually managed farmland and— see are actually managed farmland and we know that if we iransiden— farmland and we know that if we iransiden ia— farmland and we know that if we transition to a— farmland and we know that if we transition to a plant based food sysien — transition to a plant based food sysien se— transition to a plant based food system so much— transition to a plant based food system so much less reliant on aninai— system so much less reliant on animal products— system so much less reliant on animal products that we can free up a— animal products that we can free up a significant— animal products that we can free up a significant amount of that dand— up a significant amount of that iand ieeause— up a significant amount of that land because animal farming is inerediiiy— land because animal farming is incredibly inefficient . . incredibly inefficient. it's not not a— incredibly inefficient. it's not nai a good— incredibly inefficient. it's not nai a good way— incredibly inefficient. it's not not a good way to— incredibly inefficient. it's not not a good way to feed ourselves . we know as well it's not
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pleasant for the animals themselves. the animal themselves. and would the animal farmers not then not a job? farmers not then not have a job? robert sorry, but this isn't inis— robert sorry, but this isn't inis-aii— robert sorry, but this isn't this-all very— robert sorry, but this isn't this all very well and good, this is all very well and good, you—rer- this is all very well and good, you—fer inel you know, rewilding for the fees — you know, rewilding for the fees .i— you know, rewilding for the foxes.-i mean,- you know, rewilding for the foxes. i mean, those animal you know, rewilding for the foxes. that'sean, those animal you know, rewilding for the foxes. that's their�*nose animal you know, rewilding for the foxes. that's theirjob. animal farmers, that's their job. so if we-deing— farmers, that's their job. so if we-doing-then- farmers, that's their job. so if we doing then they we stop doing that, then they starve— we stop doing that, then they siarwe ia— we stop doing that, then they starve to death.— we stop doing that, then they starve to death. they �*fw�*q.. starve to death. they well, nanady— starve to death. they well, nobody wants— starve to death. they well, nobody wants that. obviously but at the moment, farmers are supported by a subsidy system and so instead of using those subsidies to incentivise the continuation of animal farming, we can incentivise better management of the land. you know, rewilding, growing fruit and veg , which uses and veg, which uses significantly less land . 50% of significantly less land. 50% of the land in the uk is grazed and it produces very few calories . it produces very few calories. and i wonder if digory here we've identified a key ideological- we've identified a key ideological difference , which is ideological difference, which is inad— ideological difference, which is inai insiead— ideological difference, which is that instead of— ideological difference, which is that instead of the countryside being— that instead of the countryside being from — that instead of the countryside being from what— that instead of the countryside being from what i can gather , being from what i can gather, iargeiy— being from what i can gather, largely subsidised by the iaxnayer— largely subsidised by the taxpayer se— largely subsidised by the taxpayer so that people can rewiid— taxpayer so that people can rewiid ii— taxpayer so that people can rewild it for— taxpayer so that people can rewild it for foxes digory some peopie— rewild it for foxes digory some neenie weuid— rewild it for foxes digory some people would argue that we could nuna— people would argue that we could run er— people would argue that we could run or sneer— people would argue that we could hunt or shoot foxes— people would argue that we could hunt or shoot foxes so that the iaers— hunt or shoot foxes so that the iaers inad— hunt or shoot foxes so that the farmers that are _ hunt or shoot foxes so that the farmers that are already on inere— farmers that are already on inere san— farmers that are already on there can have— farmers that are already on there can have their business and— there can have their business and maybe— there can have their business and maybe also— there can have their business and maybe also so dare i say it,
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ine— and maybe also so dare i say it, we fax— and maybe also so dare i say it, we ias nuna— and maybe also so dare i say it, the fox hunt was— and maybe also so dare i say it, the fox hunt was a— and maybe also so dare i say it, the fox hunt was a part of dridsn— the fox hunt was a part of british culture.— the fox hunt was a part of british culture. i must say. is— british culture. i must say. ids—i- british culture. i must say. ids—i ieundl it's not one that i found nanieuiariy— it's not one that i found particularly tasteful, but wneiner— particularly tasteful, but whether—ofj particularly tasteful, but- whether_of rural whether it was a part of rural dridsn— whether it was a part of rural british culture,— whether it was a part of rural british culture, digory it was. and— british culture, digory it was. and is— british culture, digory it was. and is nai— british culture, digory it was. and it's not not— british culture, digory it was. and it's not not a— british culture, digory it was. and it's not not a part- british culture, digory it was. and it's not not a part of- and it's not not a part of culture that british culture that ever much associated that i was ever much associated with . i don't horses . that i was ever much associated with . i don't horses. i with. i don't like horses. i wasn't associated with the hunt in any way, and it really wasn't my kind of thing. but from a dispassionate view, i would always look at things like this by actions have by saying actions have unintended consequences . and in unintended consequences. and in order to prevent people from doing something which they're doing something which they're doing and which they've been doing and which they've been doing for a very long time, um, it's not enough to just say it makes feel icky. i don't like makes me feel icky. i don't like it. i'm morally outraged by it. you objectively you have to show objectively that that doing this will have the effect that you want it to have. now this was never on the cards with fox hunting. it was always people were told from the word go . hill farmers who have word go. hill farmers who have sheep and they have lambs giving birth in the open , which are
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birth in the open, which are vulnerable to fox predation , vulnerable to fox predation, will shoot them and they have no other choice now. and as i say, shooting is much less discriminative way of controlling the animals. but it has to be done. but foxes are territorial . once you stop territorial. once you stop shooting them, they will move in from areas and i just from other areas and i just wonder what a good population for foxes would be in these people's minds. yeah well, look, both of you, thank you very much. good discussion now. good debate.— much. good discussion now. good deiaie. inads— much. good discussion now. good debate. that's digory.— q..q“ good discussion now. good debate. that's digory. okay q“..q“ good discussion now. good debate. that's digory. okay here is a— debate. that's digory. okay here is a firearms— debate. that's digory. okay here is a firearms dealer and a writer— is a firearms dealer and a writer ,— is a firearms dealer and a whg, an— is a firearms dealer and a writer , an animal writer, an animal rising spokesperson. gordon. writer, an animal rising- spokesperson.-gordon. now writer, an animal rising- spokeswith)n.-gordon. now writer, an animal rising spokeswith me, gordon. now writer, an animal rising spokeswith me, patrichon. now writer, an animal rising spokeswith me, patrick christys you're with me, patrick christys and— you're with me, patrick christys and in— you're with me, patrick christys and i-n-ie— you're with me, patrick christys and i'm-to finish- you're with me, patrick christys and i'm to finish the show and i'm going to finish the show wiin— and i'm going to finish the show win a— and i'm going to finish the show with a-fascinating- and i'm going to finish the show with a fascinating story, and i'm going to finish the show v1think fascinating story, and i'm going to finish the show v1think aboutfascinating story, and i'm going to finish the show v1think about keirnating story, and i'm going to finish the show v1think about keir starmer,ory, and i'm going to finish the show v1think about keir starmer, who i think about keir starmer, who nas— i think about keir starmer, who nas-neenie- i think about keir starmer, who has-people don't- i think about keir starmer, who has people don't care has said that people don't care aneur— has said that people don't care about-issues.— has said that people don't care about issues. forget about about woke issues. forget about the about woke issues. forget about ine-wars— about woke issues. forget about tne-warslsays. - the culture wars, he says. ieenie— the culture wars, he says. - reside—saun- people care about other stuff. i'll people care about other stuff. iii—inis- people care about other stuff. i'll—this with. i'll be discussing this with inna— i'll be discussing this with- emma _common i'll be discussing this with— emma _common sense emma webb from the common sense seeieiy. — emma webb from the common sense seeieiy. in— emma webb from the common sense society. i'm patrick— emma webb from the common sense society. i'm patrick christys on gb society. i'm patrick christys on an wews— society. i'm patrick christys on gb news britain's— society. i'm patrick christys on gb news britain's news channel. oen-i—
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completely derailed the conversation _ completely derailed the conversation . ’“ completely derailed the conversation . “ completely derailed the- conversation . join me monday completely derailed the— conversation . join me monday to conversation. join me monday to thursday at 8 pm. on . gb news. thursday at 8 pm. on. gb news. it's result time people. and inreugneui— it's result time people. and throughout today's show we've been — throughout today's show we've been asking—
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throughout today's show we've been asking who— throughout today's show we've been asking who do you support in inis— been asking who do you support in this alleged— been asking who do you support in this alleged clash between the in this alleged clash between ine rrner— in this alleged clash between the former prime— in this alleged clash between the former prime minister boris iennsen— the former prime minister boris iennsen and— the former prime minister boris johnson, and the— the former prime minister boris johnson, and the former prince cnariese— johnson, and the former prince charles? now,— johnson, and the former prince charles? now, of— johnson, and the former prince charles? now, of course, rather ianeusiy— charles? now, of course, rather famously-charles- charles? now, of course, rather famously charles over the famously, king charles over the gewernrnen-si— famously, king charles over the government's rwanda scheme? so annareniiy— government's rwanda scheme? so annareniiy-weni— government's rwanda scheme? so apparently-went-to- government's rwanda scheme? so apparently went to toe apparently they went toe to toe and— apparently they went toe to toe and-rennsen— apparently they went toe to toe and johnson squared up. and boris johnson squared up. i was—on twitter- was asking you on twitter wneiner— was asking you on twitter wneiner er— was asking you on twitter whether or not- was asking you on twitter whether or not you were team deris— whether or not you were team nerisliean— whether or not you were team derisliean .— whether or not you were team boris team . charles, 27.8% of boris or team. charles, 27.8% of you— boris or team. charles, 27.8% of you nasn— boris or team. charles, 27.8% of you dad ine— boris or team. charles, 27.8% of you back the king,— boris or team. charles, 27.8% of you back the king, but bojo irides— you back the king, but bojo iiies nasn— you back the king, but bojo bites back with— you back the king, but bojo bites back with a whopping . bites back with a whopping. mie— bites back with a whopping. my. ei— bites back with a whopping. my. of ine— bites back with a whopping. 72.2% of the vote. so 72.2% of you— 72.2% of the vote. so 72.2% of you — 72.2% of the vote. so 72.2% of you are indeed— 72.2% of the vote. so 72.2% of you are indeed team boris over the you are indeed team boris over we iewanda— you are indeed team boris over the rwanda scheme. now moving on, the rwanda scheme. now moving sir— the rwanda scheme. now moving sir weir— the rwanda scheme. now moving on, sir keir starmer— the rwanda scheme. now moving on, sir keir starmer has reneriediy— on, sir keir starmer has reportedly told his top team inad— reportedly told his top team that wokeist— reportedly told his top team that wokeist shoes do not matter to that wokeist shoes do not matter is ine— that wokeist shoes do not matter is we nudis— that wokeist shoes do not matter to the public and— that wokeist shoes do not matter to the public and he asks sorry, he to the public and he asks sorry, ne seeks— to the public and he asks sorry, ne seeks ia— to the public and he asks sorry, he seeks to build— to the public and he asks sorry, he seeks to build on this party streng— he seeks to build on this party strong performance in last eesw— strong performance in last week's local— strong performance in last week's local elections. the iaieur— week's local elections. the labour leader— week's local elections. the labour leader believes the conservatives— labour leader believes the conservatives made conservatives have made a strategie— conservatives have made a strategic blunder, essentially , strategic blunder, essentially, he strategic blunder, essentially, ne-neenie— strategic blunder, essentially, he-people don't- strategic blunder, essentially, he people don't care he thinks people don't care aneur— he thinks people don't care about woke. _ he thinks people don't care about woke. i'm joined now by inna— about woke. i'm joined now by emma—ine- about woke. i'm joined now by emma the common about woke. i'm joined now by- emma _the common sense emma webb from the common sense seeieiy. — emma webb from the common sense seeieiy. wew,— emma webb from the common sense society. now, emma,— emma webb from the common sense society. now, emma, a bit society. now, emma, we're a bit pressed— society. now, emma, we're a bit nressed iar— society. now, emma, we're a bit pressed for time,— society. now, emma, we're a bit pressed for time, will pressed for time, so i will just indw— pressed for time, so i will just throw.straight_ pressed for time, so i will just throw straight over you on throw it straight over to you on inis.— throw it straight over to you on inis-_aeiuaiiy— throw it straight over to you on this. actually right? do this. is he actually right? do peopie— this. is he actually right? do peopie-a— this. is he actually right? do peopie-alnerel this. is he actually right? do- people-a.more about people not care a bit more about
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the people not care a bit more about tne—ine— people not care a bit more about the-the education- people not care a bit more about the the education system the nhs and the education system and transgen— the nhs and the education system and transport-all— the nhs and the education system and transport all that and transport and all of that jazz— and transport and all of that jazz-do— and transport and all of that jazz-do about- and transport and all of that jazz do about oh, jazz than they do about oh, i den-i— jazz than they do about oh, i den-i knew— jazz than they do about oh, i don't know whether not don't know whether or not were-s— don't know whether or not there'slman_ don't know whether or not there's man swimming there's a man swimming in a woman's swimming competition. dour— woman's swimming competition. l dour—whether your views? i'm not sure whether he's be strategic here he's trying to be strategic here or spending or whether conrad is spending too with his bourgeois too much time with his bourgeois circle . i think he's just wrong. circle. i think he's just wrong. i think does matter to the i think this does matter to the british people. john hayes absolutely hit the nail on the head he said that. yes, of head when he said that. yes, of course, the cost of living, those things do matter to people. those about those are issues to do with how we live our lives. but the issue surrounding culture cancel nation. those things that starmer is called woke issues. that was a culture war, we have to add. it was started by the left and that the conservatives are just in a defensive posture over this. not just conservatives, but your average brit think, you know , john hayes brit think, you know, john hayes is right that we do care about these things. but ultimately, those issues are about who we are as a people. and that does matter to the british people. i think that he has taken a look at these these local , uh, local
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at these these local, uh, local election results and thinks that the labour party are in a good running for the next election . running for the next election. and as john hayes pointed out, he thinks that if he says that these things don't matter, then it won't matter too much that the labour party isn't actually able to be as patriot stick as the rest of the country . but i the rest of the country. but i think we all know that he's wrong. so why should people arguaiiy— wrong. so why should people arguaiiy ne— wrong. so why should people arguably be more— q so why should people arguably be more bothered about wneiner— arguably be more bothered about wneiner er— arguably be more bothered about whether or not— arguably be more bothered about whether or not someone should nave— whether or not someone should nawe ia— whether or not someone should nawe is rare— whether or not someone should have to take the— whether or not someone should have to take the knee or whether or nei— have to take the knee or whether or nei we — have to take the knee or whether or not we should,— have to take the knee or whether or not we should, you know, not iss— or not we should, you know, not nreneuns— or not we should, you know, not miss pronouns than— or not we should, you know, not miss pronouns than someone than iney— miss pronouns than someone than iney sneuid— miss pronouns than someone than they should about— miss pronouns than someone than they should about 7— miss pronouns than someone than they should about 7 million eeenie— they should about 7 million eeeeie waiiing— they should about 7 million people waiting for nhs treatment . i— people waiting for nhs treatment . i drink— people waiting for nhs treatment . i drink ids— people waiting for nhs treatment . i think it's possible- people waiting for nhs treatment . i think it's possible to- people waiting for nhs treatment . i think it's possible to be worried about both of those things. so starmer is setting up this strange false dichotomy to try and minimise the fact that the left, the left and many people within his own party have been pushing for these these, whereas we're calling it woke issues no longer like the term woke because i think it makes it sound less serious than it actually is . the things like, actually is. the things like, for example , keir starmer not
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for example, keir starmer not being able to straightforward say that that that women are , say that that that women are, you know, don't have a penis. that's one example. well, i think the labour party are not able to be robust on these issues and so he seems to think it's in his electoral favour. if he minimises them. but i don't think you can minimise them because we tell the british because we can tell the british people do care about these things or they care about things or they also care about waiting lists. the cost of living and all of that. you can have both. good stuff. emma, inani— have both. good stuff. emma, inanw yeu— have both. good stuff. emma, inanw yeu very— good stuff. emma, thank you very much. short and sweet— thank you very much. short and sweei nui— thank you very much. short and seed iui i— thank you very much. short and sweet, but i think— thank you very much. short and sweet, but i think you hit all ine— sweet, but i think you hit all tne-penis.— sweet, but i think you hit all the-points-webbl sweet, but i think you hit all- the-points.-webb there the key points. emma webb there fren— the key points. emma webb there nen—sense- the key points. emma webb there from _sense society. from the common sense society iusi— from the common sense society iusi wnat— from the common sense society iusi wnai a— from the common sense society iusi wnai a way— from the common sense society just what a way to— from the common sense society just what a way to round off the snew. — just what a way to round off the. show. _gentlemen, show. now, ladies and gentlemen, inani— show. now, ladies and gentlemen, inane-very— show. now, ladies and gentlemen, thank very everybody show. now, ladies and gentlemen, thanis very everybody show. now, ladies and gentlemen, thanis tunedry everybody show. now, ladies and gentlemen, thanis tuned in everybody show. now, ladies and gentlemen, thanis tuned in me.verybody show. now, ladies and gentlemen, thanis tuned in me. jubes dy who is tuned in for me. jubes and— who is tuned in for me. jubes and-sening— who is tuned in for me. jubes and-coming your- who is tuned in for me. jubes and coming your way next and co is coming your way next iiieneiie— and co is coming your way next michelle dewberry— and co is coming your way next michelle dewberry will be hopping— michelle dewberry will be hopping studio michelle dewberry will be hopping-studio show michelle dewberry will be hopjbej-studio show michelle dewberry will be hopjbej-youlstudio show michelle dewberry will be hopjbej-you foridio show michelle dewberry will be hopjbej-you for the show michelle dewberry will be hopjbe] you for the nextshow will be with you for the next new. — will be with you for the next new. _sure — will be with you for the next hour. - sure you - will be with you for the next hour. sure you keep locked hour. make sure you keep locked ende— hour. make sure you keep locked enie en— hour. make sure you keep locked enie en news— hour. make sure you keep locked onto gb news for— hour. make sure you keep locked onto gb news for a— hour. make sure you keep locked onto gb news for a great eenings— onto gb news for a great evenings-ei- onto gb news for a great evening's of coverage. onto gb news for a great- evening's-of coverage. as evening's worth of coverage. as even—again- ever, i will be back again tomorrow-p.m. - ever, i will be back again tomorrow pm. and i will tomorrow at 3 pm. and i will see-deweiy- tomorrow at 3 pm. and i will see-lovely lovely. see you then. lovely lovely peenie— see you then. lovely lovely peenie-yeu- see you then. lovely lovely peepie-yeu very- see you then. lovely lovely people. you very much. people. thank you very much. ieaee— people. thank you very much. peace-see— people. thank you very much. peace .see you - people. thank you very much. peace see you then. peace out. see you then. hello again. — peace out. see you then. hello again. ids— peace out. see you then. hello again. it's aidan mcgivern here with gb weather
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with your gb news weather forecast from the met office. it certainly turned into a lively afternoon with heavy afternoon out there with heavy showers they showers and thunderstorms. they will overnight before we do will ease overnight before we do it again during the next it all again during the next couple days. the air highly couple of days. the air highly unstable at the moment. low pressure in charge. that low pressure in charge. that low pressure does contain few pressure does contain a few weather fronts, but by and large, spells and large, it's sunny spells and showers over the next few days . showers over the next few days. and how things are and that's how things are looking the of looking during the rest of tuesday. longer tuesday. perhaps some longer spells of thundery hail spells of thundery rain and hail affecting the south and southeast for during the southeast for a time during the rest the day. today rest of the day. today thunderstorm warning, of course, because impacts that this because of the impacts that this could during could bring, especially during the rush but that the evening rush hour. but that clears during the hours of clears away during the hours of darkness. another area cloud darkness. another area of cloud and the west , and showers push into the west, 11 here, but mid to high 11 degrees here, but mid to high single where the skies single figures where the skies clear east, mist clear further east, a few mist patches possible in the east of england, northeast scotland and certainly around the certainly quite murky around the coast scotland as certainly quite murky around the coabegin scotland as certainly quite murky around the coabegin wednesdayotland as certainly quite murky around the coabegin wednesday .:land as certainly quite murky around the coabegin wednesday . otherwise, we begin wednesday. otherwise, cloud and showers moving west to east across the uk . and then east across the uk. and then again, some lively downpours breaking out during the afternoon. these showers will be
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slow moving. they'll contain hail and thunder once again, especially the east and especially towards the east and they'll impact temperatures . so they'll impact temperatures. so where get the showers , mid, where we get the showers, mid, mid teens, but where we get some sunshine coming through 19, possibly celsius in 1 or possibly 20 celsius in 1 or 2 spots, then into wednesday, the showers tend to ease as they push further east and there'll be a greater chance of clear spells and drier interludes through the night time. but still some showery rain towards the west, especially for northern ireland and into western fringes of uk . and western fringes of the uk. and once temperatures is not once again, temperatures is not far from average for the time of yeah far from average for the time of year. overnight mid to high single figures, 11 celsius in 1 or 2 spots as a generally cloudy start to thursday . showers start to thursday. showers certainly around first thing, especially towards the west and then those showers breaking out more widely into the afternoon by friday, the showers become focussed towards the south with more settled weather arriving just in time for the weekend. for many of .
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time for a new government in this country? if so, who should it be? by the way, you also said as well it was time for another brexit referendum. goodness gracious me, i can't cope with that one, so i will move on. the arrests at coronation the arrests at the coronation the met have come out and met police now have come out and apologised what
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