a jury in ajury in a a jury in a civil finding of a jury in a civil he— finding of a jury in a civil case. he says— finding of a jury in a civil case. he says he's never even met— case. he says he's never even met e— case. he says he's never even met e jean— case. he says he's never even met e jean carroll— case. he says he's never even met e jean carroll and calls it awnch— met e jean carroll and calls it awitch hunt.— met e jean carroll and calls it a witch hunt. but— met e jean carroll and calls it a witch hunt. but is his bid to retake— a witch hunt. but is his bid to retake the— a witch hunt. but is his bid to retake the white— a witch hunt. but is his bid to retake the white house now teemete— retake the white house now doomed? and— retake the white house now doomed? and it's the will of the peepte. — doomed? and it's the will of the peepte. tte— doomed? and it's the will of the people. the home— doomed? and it's the will of the people. the home secretary tells the house of lords not to block her illegal migration bill. widespread opposition expected, and going be led by the and it's going to be led by the archbishop of canterbury, justin welby. fresh from the coronation the latest harry hacking case. this time the prince is taking eetten— this time the prince is taking action against— this time the prince is taking action against mirror newspapers . were— action against mirror newspapers .wete gette— action against mirror newspapers .wete getng te— action against mirror newspapers .we're going to be— action against mirror newspapers . we're going to be live at .we're going to be live at court— .we're going to be live at court . — .we're going to be live at court . ant— .we're going to be live at court . and labour- .we're going to be live at court . ' ” c. .we're going to be live at- court . and labour under pressure court. and labour under pressure over what we call a coalition of chaos. over what we call a coalition of chaos . a keir starmer is chaos. a keir starmer is refusing to rule out a deal with the lib dems . and involved with the lib dems. and involved with the lib dems. and involved with the conversation this morning . the conversation this morning. vaiews@gbnews.uk is the email attest,— vaiews@gbnews.uk is the email ttteee ee— vaiews@gbnews.uk is the email ttteee to yet— vaiews@gbnews.uk is the email address, so you can— vaiews@gbnews.uk is the email address, so you can tweet us at gb address, so you can tweet us at ee newe— address, so you can tweet us at ee newe- eut— address, so you can tweet us at gb news. but first— address, so you can tweet us at gb news. but first of all, here is gb news. but first of all, here te yout— gb news. but first of all, here te your newe— gb news. but first of all, here is your news with— gb news. but first of all, here is your news with bethany elsey

. teet— is your news with bethany elsey . good morning. _ is your news with bethany elsey . good morning. in; " . good morning. here's your latest headlines from the gb news room. at 9:30, a us jury has found former us president donald trump sexually abused a magazine writer in the 1990s and then defamed her by branding her a liar . he then defamed her by branding her a liar. he must now pay nearly £4 million in damages to columnist e jean carroll mr trump will not face a prison sentence as the trial was a civil case. following the verdict, ms carroll said it was a victory for every woman who suffered because she was not believed. mr trump has called the verdict a disgrace and said he will appeal . doctors and he will appeal. doctors and nurses will soon be able to train on the job amid plans to tackle nhs workforce shortages . tackle nhs workforce shortages. up tackle nhs workforce shortages. up to 1 in 10 doctors and a third of nurses could be trained via the apprenticeship route. in the coming years. the head of the coming years. the head of the nhs says this gives an opportunity for school leavers to earn while they learn . the to earn while they learn. the expansion of apprenticeships is also said to offer an

alternative to the traditional university degree . the uk is set university degree. the uk is set to make russia's mercenary wagner group a proscribed terrorist organisation. that's according to the times newspaper, which says the move is likely to happen within weeks. the wagner group has been fighting alongside russian forces in eastern ukraine. the decision will mean it will be a criminal offence to join and support the group. it will also apply to displaying its logo in pubuc apply to displaying its logo in public or attending its meetings , as similar proscribed groups include the islamic state and group national action . longer group national action. longer lorries will be allowed on british roads and a new government plans to carry more goods with fewer journeys. it'll mean hgv fees can be up to two metres long, with a maximum length of up to 61ft or 18.5m. the government says drivers will be able to move the same amount of goods up to 44 tonnes, but will use 8% fewer journeys. the

vehicles will be allowed on roads from the 31st of may. you're up to date on tv online dab+ radio and on tune in. this is gb news. now it's back to andrew and . andrew and. bev well, it's an andrew and. bev— - well, it's an extraordinary well, it's an extraordinary story. a - well, it's an extraordinary etety. a-teunt- - well, it's an extraordinary story. a-found donaldi story. a jury has found donald trump— story. a jury has found donald trump-abused- story. a jury has found donald trump abused magazine trump sexually abused magazine wetter— trump sexually abused magazine wrtter t— trump sexually abused magazine wrttert t— trump sexually abused magazine wrttert treet— trump sexually abused magazine writer e e jean carroll way back in writer e e jean carroll way back tr retre— writer e e jean carroll way back tr were re— writer e e jean carroll way back tr reee, tr e— writer e e jean carroll way back in 1996, in a civil— writer e e jean carroll way back in 1996, in a civil case. he teeer-t— in1996, in a civil case. he doesn't have— in1996, in a civil case. he doesn't have a— in 1996, in a civil case. he doesn't have a criminal record, tut— doesn't have a criminal record, but we— doesn't have a criminal record, but we eer— doesn't have a criminal record, but we rew— doesn't have a criminal record, but we can now officially say rte-e— but we can now officially say tree a— but we can now officially say he's a sex pest. _ but we can now officially say he's a sex pest. g he's a sex pest. that's right. the former president was ordered to pay her $5 million in damages after jury found his after the jury found his comments, the comments, calling the accusations and a lie accusations a hoax. and a lie severely harmed her reputation . severely harmed her reputation. after the verdict, trump took to his after the verdict, trump took to we teeter— after the verdict, trump took to his social media— after the verdict, trump took to his social media platform, mm,— his social media platform, mm, te— his social media platform, truth, to social— his social media platform, truth, to social deny it, even met— truth, to social deny it, even met the— truth, to social deny it, even met the woman— truth, to social deny it, even met the woman . c�*icg met the woman. i have absolutely noidea met the woman. i have absolutely no idea who this woman is. the verdict is a disgrace. a continuation of the greatest

witch hunt of all time . well for witch hunt of all time. well for more on this is a spokesperson for republicans overseas, jennifer ewing. good morning, jennifer— jennifer ewing. good morning, rewtter. — jennifer ewing. good morning, rewtter. wt.— jennifer ewing. good morning, jennifer. hi, bev. how are you? very well. nice to see you. wret— very well. nice to see you. we et— very well. nice to see you. we et att— very well. nice to see you. first of all, just— «rig nice to see you. first of all, just your reaction to twe— first of all, just your reaction to this verdict. _ first of all, just your reaction to this verdict. please well, i threw— to this verdict. please well, i tttrt rte— to this verdict. please well, i think it's genius— to this verdict. please well, i think it's genius political strategy— think it's genius political strategy err— think it's genius political strategy on the part of the democrats. _ strategy on the part of the democrats. : ”cl strategy on the part of the democrats. : grit g strategy on the part of the- democrats. today, we're going to hear from the house oversight committee who's going to release their findings with regards to biden and some of the banking issues with his family. so what better way to distract from that than to , you know, release than to, you know, release another trump scandal ? but than to, you know, release another trump scandal? but this but this is a court— another trump scandal? but this but this is a court case.- another trump scandal? but this but this is a court case. it's- but this is a court case. it's rottwe— but this is a court case. it's retttrg te— but this is a court case. it's nothing to do— but this is a court case. it's nothing to do with the democrats,— nothing to do with the democrats, is it, jennifer? wett— democrats, is it, jennifer? wett. r— democrats, is it, jennifer? well, i mean,— democrats, is it, jennifer? well, i mean, i— democrats, is it, jennifer? well, i mean, i guess- democrats, is it, jennifer? well, i mean, i guess then you're looking at is this just ice or is it politics? and if you look back a month ago to same jurisdiction, new york, where we had the indictment there with a very, very, very

weak case. it's just interesting timing . i weak case. it's just interesting timing. i think. and we were treeweetre— timing. i think. and we were discussing just— timing. i think. and we were discussing just before- c g and we were discussing just before the show , eetwettw— discussing just before the show , actually, jennifer, about ron oesertte— , actually, jennifer, about ron desantis and— , actually, jennifer, about ron desantis and where he has gone in desantis and where he has gone tn the— desantis and where he has gone tn the race— desantis and where he has gone in the race for— desantis and where he has gone in the race for the— desantis and where he has gone in the race for the republican remtretter. — in the race for the republican nomination. he— in the race for the republican nomination. he seems to have gene— nomination. he seems to have gene ewtte— nomination. he seems to have gene qwtte qwtet— nomination. he seems to have gone quite quiet. does that work in gone quite quiet. does that work tr trump-e— gone quite quiet. does that work in trump's favour— gone quite quiet. does that work in trump's favour ?_ gone quite quiet. does that work in trump's favour ? look we're, in trump's favour? look we're, whet,— in trump's favour? look we're, what, a— in trump's favour? look we're, what, a wear— in trump's favour? look we're, what, a wear erre— in trump's favour? look we're, what, a year and a— in trump's favour? look we're, what, a year and a half, 18 months— what, a year and a half, 18 months out. _ what, a year and a half, 18 months out. so- what, a year and a half, 18 months out. gt; what, a year and a half, 18- months out. so many things can change between now and then. if you look at 2008 at this time, i think giuliani was the favourite for the gop candidate in 2000. i think it was mccain. so things change all the time. i do think ron desantis is still very much a formidable player. i think that's probably what a lot of the democrats fear, is that the gop will choose him as their candidate. and they they'd much prefer to run against trump. so the idea is to stir up the trump base with a lot of these , um, base with a lot of these, um, accusations and yes , you know,

accusations and yes, you know, convictions in this case for sure . and let's let's note none sure. and let's let's note none of this is good for trump. no, man or woman or anyone for that matter , wants to have sexual matter, wants to have sexual assault next to their name running through the news media. so it's could it could it finish him off? jennifer, finally , i him off? jennifer, finally, i ten-t— him off? jennifer, finally, i don't believe— him off? jennifer, finally, i don't believe it— " titr�*”7’ jennifer, finally, i don't believe it will " titr�*”7 jennifer, finally, i don't believe it will finish him ett. — don't believe it will finish him off. however,— don't believe it will finish him off. however, what- don't believe it will finish him off. however, what it- don't believe it will finish him off. c f: r:r:::r off. however, what it could do is look what the democrats are going to vote for or biden or whoever their candidate is and most hard core republican will vote for whoever the republican gop candidate is . what we're gop candidate is. what we're really in the battle for is the moderate candidates . and that's moderate candidates. and that's where this could damage him a bit . people who think, gosh, bit. people who think, gosh, this is just too much and i don't want anyone with this much baggage. let's not forget, in 2020, quite a few republicans did end up plugging their nose, voting for biden, thinking he was a centrist. of course, he turned out to be not a centrist

. if you look at a lot of his policies, we have a, you know, crisis at the border of fentanyl crisis. we have, you know , 40 crisis. we have, you know, 40 year high inflation. so i think the moderates who thought they were getting , um, get being were getting, um, get being a moderate in biden were wrong. but are they going to vote for trump with a lot of this baggage? i don't know. what would you vote ? i will vote for would you vote? i will vote for whoever the gop candidate is for sure . in a general election, sure. in a general election, i will. with regard who would you eeeete— will. with regard who would you eeeete as tree— a with regard who would you choose as the candidate for who the eer— choose as the candidate for who the gop candidate— choose as the candidate for who the gop candidate is? : the gop candidate is? i would preter— the gop candidate is? i would prefer to— the gop candidate is? i would preter to e— the gop candidate is? i would prefer to see someone else. i would prefer to see desantis. he's younger. he can run two terms, and i think, as i just discussed with the moderates , he discussed with the moderates, he probably plays better with them . and that's what really what's at here. how would it go at stake here. how would it go town,— at stake here. how would it go down, jennifer— at stake here. how would it go down, jennifer ,_ at stake here. how would it go down, jennifer , with- “rifli how would it go down, jennifer , with the down, jennifer, with the republicans— down, jennifer, with the republicans if ron desantis uses this republicans if ron desantis uses ttte te— republicans if ron desantis uses we to we— republicans if ron desantis uses this to his advantage publicly teeewee— this to his advantage publicly because he's— this to his advantage publicly because he's tread a very eeretwt— because he's tread a very careful line,— because he's tread a very careful line, hasn't he, in terme— careful line, hasn't he, in terms et— careful line, hasn't he, in terms of what— careful line, hasn't he, in terms of what he says about

trump— terms of what he says about trump knowing— terms of what he says about trump knowing that he has to win trump-e— trump knowing that he has to win over trump's base— trump knowing that he has to win over trump's base rather than etterettre— over trump's base rather than alienating them— over trump's base rather than alienating them by criticising et— alienating them by criticising some of them— alienating them by criticising some of them see donald trump as a get— some of them see donald trump as a get erre— some of them see donald trump as e get are we— some of them see donald trump as e get end we tree— some of them see donald trump as a god and he has to— some of them see donald trump as a god and he has to tread a very tree— a god and he has to tread a very ttre tree.— a god and he has to tread a very ttre ttrre. tee— a god and he has to tread a very fine line. do you— a god and he has to tread a very fine line. do you expect him to eut— fine line. do you expect him to ewt erre— fine line. do you expect him to come out and use— fine line. do you expect him to come out and use this at some pewt— come out and use this at some eetrt e — come out and use this at some eetrt e r— come out and use this at some eetwte r ten-t— come out and use this at some point ? i don't think- come out and use this at some point? tirir“ g : point? i don't think that would be very smart if he did. we're already seeing criticism of him for not coming out and calling this a witch hunt or a, you know, a political , you know, know, a political, you know, situation. so people are already within less than 12 hours criticising him for not coming out to defend trump. i don't see the upside in his using this against trump. there's too many people that will think, wait a minute, this guy is, you know, sounding like a unifier. this this democrat. so there's i think we're losing you. jennhen think we're losing you. jennifer, thank you. jennifer twtrg— jennifer, thank you. jennifer twtwg trrere, — jennifer, thank you. jennifer ewing there, spokesperson for rteewttteere— ewing there, spokesperson for republicans overseas. thank you very— republicans overseas. thank you very meet— republicans overseas. thank you very mwetr ter— republicans overseas. thank you very much for joining republicans overseas. thank you very much forjoining us. he's teeemetmg— very much forjoining us. he's fascinating thing,— very much forjoining us. he's fascinating thing, isn't it? wett— fascinating thing, isn't it? wett. wee— fascinating thing, isn't it? well, you can't— fascinating thing, isn't it? well, you can't write- fascinating thing, isn't it? well, you can't write him off. you can't you can't write him

off. he's now officially you can he can be called a sex pest. a sex predator. but there's no criminal record. interestingly, she got more money for defamation $3 million than $2 million for the for the sexual assault because he called her a liar. so that's more important. and she's not my type. yeah he's not and she's not my type. yeah he's met eememew— and she's not my type. yeah he's met eememew twee— and she's not my type. yeah he's not anyone's type here. �*ftt�*“ti”ti not anyone's type here. where's tteteme— not anyone's type here. where's tteteme m— not anyone's type here. where's melania in all this? i quite- melania in all this? i quite like to hear melania- st~tuticr3t“ “ 57 i quite like to hear melania say eemettrmg— like to hear melania say something about this. she's etwewe— something about this. she's etwewe very— something about this. she's always very quiet in the background.— always very quiet in the background. certainly is. now, the background. certainly is. now,i tree—warmed the home secretary has warned the home secretary has warned rte-et— the home secretary has warned rte-et-met- the home secretary has warned rte-et-met te- the house of lords not to defy tree— the house of lords not to defy tree-tree— the house of lords not to defy the -the british - the house of lords not to defy the the british people the will of the british people as the will of the british people ee—tttegetl as peers debate the illegal mtgrettem— as peers debate the illegal migration bill— as peers debate the illegal migration bill for first migration bill for the first ttme— migration bill for the first ttme-veet.- migration bill for the first time -yeah, so. migration bill for the first. time -yeah, so we're migration bill for the first- time -yeah, so we're going time today. yeah, so we're going to archbishop to get the archbishop of canterbury, who's attacked the stop boats policy. stop the boats policy. he's going the lords going to speak in the lords today. unusually him to today. unusually for him to condemn of the condemn the morality of the bill, follows the arrival of bill, it follows the arrival of a barge set to house hundreds of asylum seekers down in the west country. so let's discuss this wttt— country. so let's discuss this wttt-eeewtw— titit. so let's discuss this with deputy political with our deputy political ettter—l with our deputy political| eggo.,_, ee with our deputy political- editor,_, as well as editor, tom harwood, as well as eetttteet— editor, tom harwood, as well as political commentator piers rettmger— political commentator piers pottinger morning, pottinger. good morning, gemttemem— pottinger. good morning, gentlemen. - i - pottinger. good morning, gentlemen. i archbishop gentlemen. piers, i archbishop werew— gentlemen. piers, i archbishop wettw-mw— gentlemen. piers, i archbishop wettw-mw treet- gentlemen. piers, i archbishop

welby my head in. �*ftt�*ticc welby does my head in. well, as you welby does my head in. well, as yet mew.— welby does my head in. well, as you knew. rm— welby does my head in. well, as you know, i'm not very keen on him either. i always say he's wett— him either. i always say he's wett tee— him either. i always say he's wett tee m— him either. i always say he's well bee in my— “ ti i always say he's well bee in my bonnet . and well bee in my bonnet. and egetm— well bee in my bonnet. and egetm t— well bee in my bonnet. and egetm t mem— well bee in my bonnet. and again, i mean ,_ well bee in my bonnet. and again, i mean , he doesn't pick again, i mean, he doesn't pick his again, i mean, he doesn't pick me teewee— again, i mean, he doesn't pick his issues. well— again, i mean, he doesn't pick his issues. well because i think the his issues. well because i think trre majority— his issues. well because i think me meg-erttw et— his issues. well because i think the majority of voters in this eewmtw— the majority of voters in this eewmtw went— the majority of voters in this country want something done etewt— country want something done etewt tree— country want something done about the illegal immigration and about the illegal immigration mt trem — about the illegal immigration and from rishi's_ about the illegal immigration and from rishi's point of view , and from rishi's point of view, twe— and from rishi's point of view, me te— and from rishi's point of view, me te ee— and from rishi's point of view, this is one of— and from rishi's point of view, this is one of the— and from rishi's point of view, this is one of the big erg etemte— this is one of the big erg etemte et— this is one of the big erg planks of his— this is one of the big erg planks of his recovery. and of course, what's— planks of his recovery. and of course, what's going to happen in course, what's going to happen m tree— course, what's going to happen m the term— course, what's going to happen in the lords when— course, what's going to happen in the lords when they they start— in the lords when they they start twmg— in the lords when they they start twmg te— in the lords when they they start trying to water it down. if start trying to water it down. rt thew— start trying to water it down. rt ttrew em— start trying to water it down. if they can dismantle this and step— if they can dismantle this and step mm — if they can dismantle this and stop him getting— if they can dismantle this and stop him getting this through to it's stop him getting this through to we gemg— stop him getting this through to we getmg te— stop him getting this through to we getmg te te— stop him getting this through to it's going to be a— stop him getting this through to it's going to be a big blow to mm— it's going to be a big blow to him because— it's going to be a big blow to him because he's— it's going to be a big blow to him because he's got to start eetwermg— him because he's got to start delivering something in a now an mereeemgtw— delivering something in a now an increasingly short— delivering something in a now an increasingly short space of ttme. — increasingly short space of ttme. vette— increasingly short space of time. yeah and— increasingly short space of time. yeah and it's interesting thew— time. yeah and it's interesting cause they lost— time. yeah and it's interesting cause they lost dover last week in cause they lost dover last week m the — cause they lost dover last week m the teeet— cause they lost dover last week in the local elections , dodi, in the local elections, dodi, wmet— in the local elections, dodi, wttetr tree— in the local elections, dodi, which has been— in the local elections, dodi, which has been overwhelmed with mtgremte. — which has been overwhelmed with migrants. interestingly- which has been overwhelmed with migrants. "th which has been overwhelmed with migrants. “ti”ti5rg “ti” 37�* ti5 migrants. interestingly, piers, i the archbishop opposite number in rwanda , a former former

in rwanda, a former former refugee , completely supports the refugee, completely supports the policy of britain taking migrant boats to be processed in rwanda . yes, well, i mean , well, he's . yes, well, i mean, well, he's eetreem— . yes, well, i mean, well, he's eetreem te— . yes, well, i mean, well, he's eetreem te pret— . yes, well, i mean, well, he's chosen to pick this— yes, well, i mean, well, he's chosen to pick this issue and eteewee— chosen to pick this issue and eteewee tree— chosen to pick this issue and discuss the morality of it . and discuss the morality of it. and i discuss the morality of it. and t meem— discuss the morality of it. and t t— discuss the morality of it. and i mean, i don't— discuss the morality of it. and i mean, i don't think anyone wette— i mean, i don't think anyone wants te— i mean, i don't think anyone wants to send— i mean, i don't think anyone wants to send people to places they— wants to send people to places they eem-t— wants to send people to places they don't want— wants to send people to places they don't want to _ wants to send people to places they don't want to go necessarily- they don't want to go necessarily .- they don't want to go necessarily . but when they're necessarily. but when they're ttteget— necessarily. but when they're illegal immigrants coming here reettw— illegal immigrants coming here reettw arme— illegal immigrants coming here really arnie in— illegal immigrants coming here really arnie in a— illegal immigrants coming here really arnie in a devious way. when— really arnie in a devious way. when thew— really arnie in a devious way. when they could— really arnie in a devious way. when they could come, if they were straightforward immigrants, it were straightforward immigrants, tt wette— were straightforward immigrants, tt wewtt te— were straightforward immigrants, it would be cheaper for them to get e— it would be cheaper for them to get e tttgtt— it would be cheaper for them to get a flight from _ it would be cheaper for them to get a flight from albania. let's say,— get a flight from albania. let's eew te— get a flight from albania. let's eew te temeem— get a flight from albania. let's say, to london, than to pay tteweemee— say, to london, than to pay thousands of— say, to london, than to pay thousands of pounds to some eeeete— thousands of pounds to some people. trafficker to come over in people. trafficker to come over m e— people. trafficker to come over m e emgrw— people. trafficker to come over m e emgtw .— people. trafficker to come over m e emgtw . rte— people. trafficker to come over in a dinghy. the situation is treet— in a dinghy. the situation is that t— in a dinghy. the situation is that i believe— in a dinghy. the situation is that i believe this bill must go ttrrewgtr— that i believe this bill must go ttrrewgtr eme— that i believe this bill must go through and it— that i believe this bill must go through and it can always get emerged— through and it can always get charged m— through and it can always get changed in the— through and it can always get changed in the future. but we meet— changed in the future. but we meet ttrm — changed in the future. but we need firm action— changed in the future. but we need firm action now and that's whet— need firm action now and that's what t— need firm action now and that's what i believe— need firm action now and that's what i believe the— need firm action now and that's what i believe the country wants to what i believe the country wants te — what i believe the country wants te t— what i believe the country wants te treet— what i believe the country wants to see. i just makes— what i believe the country wants to see. i just makes my blood sort of boil . when you hear sort of boil. when you hear welby saying that this is a

moral issue too, and for somebody like him to cast a moral judgement on on sitting mps and lords is a very powerful statement to make. well, he's lost the statement to make. well, he's test the etet. — statement to make. well, he's lost the plot. i— statement to make. well, he's lost the plot. i mean- well, he's lost the plot. i mean he, he's sett— lost the plot. i mean he, he's eett teet— lost the plot. i mean he, he's said that the— lost the plot. i mean he, he's said that the church of england is said that the church of england te gemg— said that the church of england te getmg te— said that the church of england te getmg te gwe— said that the church of england is going to give £100 million for reparations— is going to give £100 million for reparations for colonialisation and slavery for reparations for— colonialisation and slavery that the etwretr— colonialisation and slavery that the church was— colonialisation and slavery that the church was involved in in tree— the church was involved in in the peer.— the church was involved in in the past. look,— the church was involved in in the past. look, we can't do emwttmg— the past. look, we can't do anything about— the past. look, we can't do anything about the past, but we can anything about the past, but we te— anything about the past, but we te whet-e— anything about the past, but we can do what's going on now. that troo— can do what's going on now. that tree mttttem— can do what's going on now. that £100 million could— can do what's going on now. that £100 million could be used for eeeete— £100 million could be used for people suffering— £100 million could be used for people suffering today in eewertw— people suffering today in eewertw whe— people suffering today in poverty who are facing real tertette— poverty who are facing real terteme. wtw— poverty who are facing real hardship. why doesn't he use treet— hardship. why doesn't he use that meet— hardship. why doesn't he use that money, which i didn't even knew— that money, which i didn't even knew tree— that money, which i didn't even know the church— that money, which i didn't even know the church had? because it's know the church had? because we temg— know the church had? because we tetmg ee— know the church had? because it's doing so badly these days. why— it's doing so badly these days. wtw teem-t— it's doing so badly these days. why doesn't he— it's doing so badly these days. why doesn't he use that to money do why doesn't he use that to money te eemetmmg— why doesn't he use that to money do something positive for his his parishioners,— do something positive for his his parishioners, his his his eemgregettem— his parishioners, his his his congregation ?_ his parishioners, his his his congregation ? then why doesn't congregation? then why doesn't he te— congregation? then why doesn't he te treet— congregation? then why doesn't he do that now— congregation? then why doesn't he do that now ? _ congregation? then why doesn't he do that now ? \ttstt�*rt" and congregation? then why doesn't he do that now ? tritrrt' and in a he do that now? now. and in a rem-t— he do that now? now. and in a sense, isn't this— he do that now? now. and in a sense, isn't this a— he do that now? \ttf,tt�*rt" and in a sense, isn't this a fight that trem— sense, isn't this a fight that rishi sunak_ sense, isn't this a fight that rishi sunak will— sense, isn't this a fight that rishi sunak will relish with the wmeteetet — rishi sunak will relish with the unelected house—

rishi sunak will relish with the unelected house of lords , the unelected house of lords, the trem— unelected house of lords, the eton educated— unelected house of lords, the eton educated archbishop of cemetery— eton educated archbishop of canterbury preaching about meretttw— canterbury preaching about meretttw e— canterbury preaching about morality ? arnie what's moral morality? arnie what's moral etewt— morality? arnie what's moral etewt eeeete— morality? arnie what's moral about people crossing the ereeemg— about people crossing the crossing the _ about people crossing the crossing the channel in dinghies , ettem— crossing the channel in dinghies , ettem dying— crossing the channel in dinghies , ettem dying et— crossing the channel in dinghies , often dying at sea ? yeah. , often dying at sea? yeah. whet-e— , often dying at sea? yeah. what's more— , often dying at sea? yeah. what's more about that? attetutetw— what's more about that? absolutely. i— what's more about that? ' cigar i mean, i don't absolutely. i mean, i don't tmmt— absolutely. i mean, i don't term t— absolutely. i mean, i don't term t ee— absolutely. i mean, i don't term t as t— absolutely. i mean, i don't think i as i say— absolutely. i mean, i don't think i as i say once- ' cigar i mean, i don't think i as i say once again , think i as i say once again, welby— think i as i say once again, wettw tree— think i as i say once again, welby has picked the wrong issue . i welby has picked the wrong issue . t tmmt— welby has picked the wrong issue . tttrmt tee-e— welby has picked the wrong issue . i think he's going— welby has picked the wrong issue . i think he's going to face a streng— . i think he's going to face a strong backlash— . i think he's going to face a strong backlash and i hope his his strong backlash and i hope his me emte— strong backlash and i hope his his members of— strong backlash and i hope his his members of the church of regret— his members of the church of tmgtemt tetr— his members of the church of england tell him— england tell him straightforwardly what they ttrmt. — straightforwardly what they ttrmt. wet— straightforwardly what they think. not as— straightforwardly what they think. \tit straightforwardly what they- think. not as many of them, even if he said even if he said it's immoral to not stop the cross , immoral to not stop the cross, say that's immoral , to allow say that's immoral, to allow people to make that treacherous , dangerous, immoral to in change communities. tom, we'll bnng change communities. tom, we'll trtmg trmg— change communities. tom, we'll trtmg trtmg yew— change communities. tom, we'll bring bring you in.— change communities. tom, we'll bring bring you in. i— change communities. tom, we'll bring bring you in. i was- bring bring you in. i was wetemmg— bring bring you in. i was watching some footage yesterday. i watching some footage yesterday. t metre— watching some footage yesterday. t there— watching some footage yesterday. i mean, there are— watching some footage yesterday. i mean, there are now it is even metmg— i mean, there are now it is even metmg rt— i mean, there are now it is even metmg tt eme— i mean, there are now it is even making it onto other channels. wewtt— making it onto other channels. wewtt wee— making it onto other channels. would you believe the impact treet— would you believe the impact that teet— would you believe the impact that that-large- would you believe the impact that that large groups of that that these large groups of eeeete— that that these large groups of eeeete t— that that these large groups of eeeete t metre— that that these large groups of people i mean, we've seen teetege— people i mean, we've seen footage there _ people i mean, we've seen footage there of- people i mean, we've seen footage there of one of the target. — footage there of one of the target. se — footage there of one of the barges. so .only- footage there of one of the. barges. so .only-to footage there of one of the- barges. so .only-to be barges. so it's only going to be too— barges. so it's only going to be too-em— barges. so it's only going to be

too-em treet— barges. so it's only going to be 500 -on that barge. - barges. so it's only going to be 500 on that barge. all of 500 people on that barge. all of tree— 500 people on that barge. all of these-te— 500 people on that barge. all of these -to - hotels, i 500 people on that barge. all of these -to .hotels, toj these attempts to buy hotels, to buy—“ke- buy barges, it looks like trey-we— buy barges, it looks like they've given - buy barges, it looks like they've given up. it looks like they've given up. it looks like the government— they've given up. it looks like the government are just not only tgmermg— the government are just not only ignoring borders,— the government are just not only ignoring borders, but ignoring communities.— ignoring borders, but ignoring communities. tom, it is teeemetmg— communities. tom, it is fascinating that wherever the gewemmemt— fascinating that wherever the government tries to put a barge or create a facility— government tries to put a barge or create a facility for these peepte— or create a facility for these people, inevitably the local mp, ettem— people, inevitably the local mp, ettem tre— people, inevitably the local mp, often the conservative local mp, wttt— often the conservative local mp, wttt eeeeee— often the conservative local mp, will oppose that. _ often the conservative local mp, will oppose that. '“t: often the conservative local mp, will oppose that. ' “r: “ will oppose that. and we've seen that in dorset with richard drax, the conservative coming in this morning to just that. this morning to say just that. who he's looking at who is saying he's looking at every angle, including every every angle, including legal options to this barge legal options to stop this barge being being positioned there off the coast of his constituency. similarly we saw the foreign secretary cleverly oppose secretary james cleverly oppose a facility being constructed in his constituency. there's a very interesting attitude really in terms of what looks like there's a broad consensus in terms of what to do within the conservative party nationally . conservative party nationally. but when it comes to locally deaung but when it comes to locally dealing with specific issues in the medium term, there is very much not a consensus at all. it's nimbyism, isn't it, piers?

tee.— it's nimbyism, isn't it, piers? tee. amt— it's nimbyism, isn't it, piers? tee. amt we— it's nimbyism, isn't it, piers? yes. and we want— it's nimbyism, isn't it, piers? yes. and we want them out of tetete. — yes. and we want them out of tetete. we— yes. and we want them out of hotels. we want— yes. and we want them out of hotels. we want we want to paying— hotels. we want we want to paying stop— hotels. we want we want to paying stop paying all this gutte— paying stop paying all this ewttte memew— paying stop paying all this public money to put them in meters.— public money to put them in tetete. eut— public money to put them in hotels. but we _ public money to put them in hotels. but we don't want them in .constituency. _ hotels. but we don't want them in constituency. doing in our constituency. but doing mettmg— in our constituency. but doing mettmg-eettem- in our constituency. but doing nothing-option. . in our constituency. but doingi nothing-option . no, in our constituency. but doing- nothing-option . no, we nothing is not an option. no, we twe— nothing is not an option. no, we have re— nothing is not an option. no, we have te te— nothing is not an option. no, we have to do something. and it may not be ideal to start with, but let's start. stop ing the flood of illegal immigration, because once we stop it or at least stall it, we can then adjust it at a later date. this isn't something that needs to be permanent forever. this is something that is needed to stop an immediate problem. it's a game changer, isn't it,- : it's a game changer, isn't it, tom? if thew— game changer, isn't it, tom? if they get— game changer, isn't it, tom? if they get rt— game changer, isn't it, tom? if they get tt rtgtt— game changer, isn't it, tom? if they get tt rtgtet .— game changer, isn't it, tom? if they get it right , there's a they get it right, there's a bigw— they get it right, there's a mg, mg— they get it right, there's a big, big question mark over how thew— big, big question mark over how they eem— big, big question mark over how they get— big, big question mark over how they get rt— big, big question mark over how they can get it right, because, of course, what— they can get it right, because, of course, what the house of terte—te- of course, what the house of. lords—is looking lords is doing today is looking at lords is doing today is looking et—tte— lords is doing today is looking et—tte ttret- at this stuff for the first ttme. — at this stuff for the first ttme. rte— at this stuff for the first time. the bill- at this stuff for the first time. cc : at this stuff for the first time. cc at this stuff for the first- time. the bill passed the house of commons now it goes of commons and now it goes across lords, which of across to the lords, which of course as a revising course is known as a revising chamber. will take on its chamber. and it will take on its mantle to revise. and of course the conservative does not mantle to revise. and of course the ca|servative does not mantle to revise. and of course the ca majority does not mantle to revise. and of course the ca majority in does not mantle to revise. and of course the ca majority in the does not mantle to revise. and of course the ca majority in the house ot have a majority in the house of lords. of lords. there's a majority of crossbenchers and labour party peers and lots and lots of lib

dems that were created in the last and all of these last 20 years and all of these people will have their own own avenues to change things. one of the one of the big avenues that will be likely to pass the house of lords is changes with regard to child refugees and detention of child refugees . and that of child refugees. and that could create a situation of parliamentary ping pong where the bill gets amended in the lords passed back to the commons, unamended passed back to the lords, and it could go on and on. ultimately the conservative party and the government could sort of ride it through by putting this bill in the next kings speech and what's known as as parliament acting speech, whereby the lords couldn't amend it anymore. but that would of course delay things by another year. they've got to get on with— things by another year. they've got to get on with it. - things by another year. they've got to get on with it. well , got to get on with it. well, gemg— got to get on with it. well, gemg te— got to get on with it. well, we're going to keep you both here anyway . you know what you here anyway. you know what you could immoral to not be could say it's immoral to not be fast the applications fast tracking the applications that we will keep you and we will, of course, when archbishop

welby speaks, we will be covering that here on gb news later in the day. okay. it won't be e— later in the day. okay. it won't be e very— later in the day. okay. it won't be a very interesting- “ cr? okay. it won't be a very interesting speech , be a very interesting speech, tut— be a very interesting speech, twt t— be a very interesting speech, twt t ten-t— be a very interesting speech, but i don't think— be a very interesting speech, but i don't think we're trtmgtmg— but i don't think we're bringing, are- but i don't think we're bringing, are we bringing the speech— bringing, are we bringing the eeeeet twee— bringing, are we bringing the speech live? well, we'll eretettw— speech live? well, we'll probably get— speech live? well, we'll probably get a of it. now, probably get a clip of it. now, wee-te— probably get a clip of it. now, we're-to switch- probably get a clip of it. now, we're to switch gears we're going to switch gears teeewe— we're going to switch gears. teeewee—eteme because there's another phone treetmg—ttre- because there's another phone. hacking—the duke hacking trial involving the duke of hacking trial involving the duke et-et— hacking trial involving the duke et-et eewere— hacking trial involving the duke of of course, prince of sussex of course, prince terry— of sussex of course, prince terry te— of sussex of course, prince harry te ewmg— of sussex of course, prince harry is suing mirror group meweeereee— harry is suing mirror group newspapers, this time over what tee-e— newspapers, this time over what rte-e eettmg— newspapers, this time over what he's calling unlawful information- he's calling unlawful information gathering. til. " information gathering. our nettenet— information gathering. our national reporter- information gathering. our national reporter paul hawkins is at the court for us now is at the high court for us now . good morning, paul . what's the . good morning, paul. what's the latest on this particular occasion that harry is back in court ? yeah, but the difference court? yeah, but the difference wttt— court? yeah, but the difference wtttr twe— court? yeah, but the difference wtttr me te— court? yeah, but the difference with this is that— court? yeah, but the difference with this is that this- titit. 7 yeah, but the difference with this is that this is an eetwet— with this is that this is an actual trial. _ with this is that this is an actual trial. “ actual trial. this is where he's going to get his day in court, although this is a trial that's going to last 6 to 7 weeks and he won't make appearance here he won't make an appearance here in court until june. when he does, though, he'll become the first senior royal to give evidence in a courtroom since the 19th century. but today is day one. we're going to hear statements from both sides. this

is a joint claim by prince harry and a group of celebrities, including the likes of cheryl cole and the former footballer turned celebrity ian wright . turned celebrity ian wright. also, lawyers for the estate of the late great george michael . the late great george michael. so along all together, along with prince harry, they're bringing this lawsuit against the mirror group newspaper that owns the daily mirror, the sunday mirror, and the sunday people. allegations of obtaining information illegally in order to write stories about them from the mid 90s up to 2011. they've now what we're going to hear over the next 6 or 7 weeks is evidence from whistleblowers, documentation, emails, phone records , us receipts from records, us receipts from private investors , letters which private investors, letters which they say builds a case that shows that mirror group newspaper , they say was hacking newspaper, they say was hacking their phones in the 90s and the early 2000 and mirror group . in early 2000 and mirror group. in the past, they have made limited admissions that there was phone

hacking happening at the daily mirror and they've paid hundreds of thousands of pounds out in compensation because of that. but that is a limited admission of in relation to this of liability in relation to this trial. they deny all allegations of phone and indeed in of phone hacking and indeed in some the claimants some of the claimants cases, they're it's too they're saying that it's too late to come to trial and they're trying to them. they're trying to have them. some of claimants cases some of those claimants cases thrown of court. but what we thrown out of court. but what we are going to hear a lot of evidence about how the mirror group newspaper operate . it's group newspaper operate. it's lots over the lots of allegations over the next weeks. we're going next few weeks. and we're going to piers morgan to hear the name piers morgan mentioned of mentioned a lot because, of course, was editor of the course, he was editor of the daily mirror from 1995 to 2004. so paul , just to be clear, did so paul, just to be clear, did you say seven weeks? you expect at the wet— you say seven weeks? you expect at the trtet te— you say seven weeks? you expect at the trial to go— you say seven weeks? you expect at the trial to go on— you say seven weeks? you expect at the trial to go on and- i“ 7 you expect at the trial to go on and do we mmt— at the trial to go on and do we term terry— at the trial to go on and do we think harry harry— at the trial to go on and do we think harry harry will make an aggregate— think harry harry will make an eeeeeremee m— think harry harry will make an appearance in court ? yeah, he's appearance in court? yeah, he's exeeetet— appearance in court? yeah, he's exeeetet te— appearance in court? yeah, he's expected to appear in june. so mett— expected to appear in june. so meet et— expected to appear in june. so most of these— expected to appear in june. so most of these trial— expected to appear in june. so most of these trial most- expected to appear in june. so most of these trial most of what you've been hearing when we talk about prince harry taking on the likes of associated newspapers within the daily mail, news group own the sun group newspapers who own the sun , have been pre—trial

, those have been pre—trial heanngs , those have been pre—trial hearings to then go to trial . hearings to then go to trial. this is an actual trial itself. so he is going to get his day in court. and we're expecting him to appear in june . and that will to appear in june. and that will be box office. it will be a significant moment because we've become the first senior to royal appearin become the first senior to royal appear in a courtroom giving evidence since the 19 century. so that will certainly be a moment to remember in this trial. but it is going to last for 6 to 7 weeks. we're going to hear a lot of stuff about mirror gate, about the mirror group. i should of allegations should say. a lot of allegations about they operate their about how they operate their newspapers . and there will newspapers. and there will undoubtedly be some information that about the royal that comes out about the royal household and about how they run their there . so their operations there. so potentially damaging for both sides . all right. that's paul sides. all right. that's paul hawkins at the high court for us there. thanks forjoining us. were— there. thanks forjoining us. were etu— there. thanks forjoining us. we're still in— g“ti”ti thanks forjoining us. we're still in studio with we're still in the studio with us. we're still in the studio with we—et- we're still in the studio withi us. piers pottinger, of course, mt— us. piers pottinger, of course,- amt—tettmg and tom harwood, we're talking eertter— and tom harwood, we're talking earner-tetr— and tom harwood, we're talking earlier keir starmer big earlier about keir starmer big mterwtewe— earlier about keir starmer big interviews. yesterday flatly rwtet— interviews. yesterday flatly rwtet eut— interviews. yesterday flatly ruled out the— interviews. yesterday flatly ruled out the idea of a coalition— ruled out the idea of a coalition with the snp , but coalition with the snp, but retweet— coalition with the snp, but retweet te— coalition with the snp, but refused to rule— coalition with the snp, but refused to rule out a coalition wttt— refused to rule out a coalition wtttr tre—

refused to rule out a coalition wtttr the wt— refused to rule out a coalition with the lib dems. yes i think tee-e— with the lib dems. yes i think rte-e temg— with the lib dems. yes i think he's being quite— with the lib dems. yes i think he's being quite canny about teet— he's being quite canny about that because— he's being quite canny about that because he's obviously they went— that because he's obviously they went te— that because he's obviously they went te wm— that because he's obviously they went te wtm em— that because he's obviously they want to win an overall majority. tet— want to win an overall majority. tut rt— want to win an overall majority. tut tt vou— want to win an overall majority. ewe tt wee teet— want to win an overall majority. but if you look at— want to win an overall majority. but if you look at what- want to win an overall majority. but if you look at what happened in the local election that they would still be some way short of that. and of course the labour party have a record of leading the lib dems up the garden path. tony blair did it. paddy ashdown nearly. and when he was worried about not getting an overall majority. but it is very, very dangerous. i mean the lib dems are absolutely appalling in any kind of coalition as we saw the dreadful nick clegg. yes and we've also seen people like ed davey where don't forget , he was davey where don't forget, he was the minister for the post office and ultimately response for the biggest miscarriage of british justice in history , causing such justice in history, causing such horror , awful tragedy for so horror, awful tragedy for so many subpostmasters. but i mean, the thing is, if they have this

coalition, which i suspect it's quite possible they will, then we're going to get proportional representation . and that is the representation. and that is the end end of the tour for the conservatives for the foreseeable future and proportional representation is really dangerous. and of course the wt— really dangerous. and of course the we deme— really dangerous. and of course the lib dems may— really dangerous. and of course the lib dems may then- ”tiring 33 and of course the lib dems may then reopen the weete— the lib dems may then reopen the wtete treet— the lib dems may then reopen the whole brexit issue.— the lib dems may then reopen the whole brexit issue. i'm sure trey-tr— whole brexit issue. i'm sure mew-tr tw— whole brexit issue. i'm sure mew-tr trw te— whole brexit issue. i'm sure they'll try to because that's tre— they'll try to because that's the tert— they'll try to because that's the eert et— they'll try to because that's the sort of idiotic thing they wewtt— the sort of idiotic thing they wewtt te. — the sort of idiotic thing they would do. yeah,— the sort of idiotic thing they would do. yeah, he wants to go teet— would do. yeah, he wants to go teet there.— would do. yeah, he wants to go back there. what— would do. yeah, he wants to go back there. what do you think, reme— back there. what do you think, teme t— back there. what do you think, teme t mmt— back there. what do you think, tom? i think this— back there. what do you think, tom? i think this is a clever play— tom? i think this is a clever play by— tom? i think this is a clever play by tetr— tom? i think this is a clever play by keir starmer because it teet— play by keir starmer because it means that we're— play by keir starmer because it means that we're talking about the means that we're talking about tree-whet— means that we're talking about rte-wttet te- means that we're talking about the -which is the- means that we're talking about the which is the party the lib dems, which is the party teet— the lib dems, which is the party that t— the lib dems, which is the party that t eteertw— the lib dems, which is the party that it clearly riles_ that it clearly riles conservative minded voters. that it clearly riles_ conservative minded voters. but in conservative minded voters. but m rte— conservative minded voters. but in the south—east— conservative minded voters. but in the south—east of— conservative minded voters. but in the south—east of england , in in the south—east of england, in the constituencies that have become to be known as the blue wall, they're much more palatable to a series of voters. there and it means that across from stations like this, we're no longer talking about keir starmer being propped up by the snp . we're talking about keir snp. we're talking about keir starmer being propped up by sir ed davey, which seems like a far

less scary prospect to a lot of middle england. so it's a clever play middle england. so it's a clever play because we're now talking about something that seems less scary in the situation of a hung parliament, whereas the conservative party will be wanting to talk about the prospect of an snp labour deal which of course keir starmer has said that he doesn't want to do, but he may well have no choice and therefore they do. everything's up in the air, they do with, do with do do a deal with, do with whoever could wouldn't he. whoever he could wouldn't he. well yes, mean get him over well, yes, i mean get him over tre— well, yes, i mean get him over rte-rte— well, yes, i mean get him over rte-rte-ttmg- well, yes, i mean get him over the-the-thing he. well, yes, i mean get him over. the-the-thing he wants the line. the one thing he wants is power and they do is power and they will do whatever to can achieve whatever they to can achieve that. how does as tom says, this is quite an attractive proposition to maybe some wavering voters who see themselves centric and themselves as rather centric and might traditionally have been conservative but no longer have an for that. how does an appetite for that. how does rishi an appetite for that. how does teem sweet— an appetite for that. how does rishi sunak counter— an appetite for that. how does rishi sunak counter this- how does rishi sunak counter this ? �*ftt�*ticc rishi sunak counter this? well, i rishi sunak counter this? well, t—tnew.— rishi sunak counter this? well, t—tnew. t— rishi sunak counter this? well, i-know, i mean- rishi sunak counter this? well, i-know, i mean ,- rishi sunak counter this? well, i-know, i mean , thei i think, you know, i mean, the lib been saying for lib dems i've been saying for a while now, they are the real danger the next election. and danger in the next election. and i think could get a really i think they could get a really large of seats and large number of seats and because it is a more palatable

choice, as tom said to some middle england voters , and if middle england voters, and if they play the union card as well, which is what starmer is now doing because he knows he's going to actually do very well in scotland unless the snp , by in scotland unless the snp, by some extraordinary miracle , some extraordinary miracle, recover from the quagmire. they're deep in at the moment and starmer is playing this, i think, very cleverly, as tom said, and there's a real risk for the conservative party that they start to look out of touch if they start talking about issues like first past the post or proportional representation, most eyes will glaze over most voters eyes will glaze over karim khan the conservatives need to find things that actually resonate with the country at large and anything that steers them away from the prime minister's five priorities that he goes on and on about it is a is a way to steer them away from that. okay. and thank you both. bang on about house of lords reform. let us know what you— lords reform. let us know what wew ttrmt. — : let us know what you think. gbviews@gbnews.uk is the you think. gbviews@gbnews.uk is tree-tweet,— you think. gbviews@gbnews.uk is the-always,.we're- the email as always, as we're going— the email as always, as we're gemglte— the email as always, as we're going-be-about- the email as always, as we're- goinglbe-about donald going to be talking about donald treme— going to be talking about donald trump—mere- going to be talking about donald trump—more after- trump a little bit more after twe— trump a little bit more after

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northern scotland during wednesday night. elsewhere for some clear spells, but further showery rain will affect northern ireland, western scotland , western parts of scotland, western parts of england and wales. some more persistent possible in some persistent rain possible in some spots northern ireland. spots across northern ireland. and temperatures again dipping to around the mid to high single figures, 10 or 11 in 1 or 2 spots, but a generally cloudy start to thursday, particularly towards the west. the cloud and the showery rain will once again move east through the day and by the afternoon it's a mix of sunny spells and showers. once again, the showers will be hit and miss. they're not going to affect and affect everyone in and especially around coasts. there will sunshine between will be some sunshine in between . temperatures reaching 17, perhaps 18 celsius. so a slight cooling trend later this week before those temperatures rise again into the weekend because from friday, especially in the north and into saturday across the whole of the uk, drier and sunnier weather is on the way. and as a result, temperatures will rise

a 10:00 on wednesday, the 10th of may. this is the point on gb wewe— may. this is the point on gb wewe wttt— may. this is the point on gb news with andrew- iii; this is the point on gb news with andrew pierce and bev twmer— news with andrew pierce and bev twmee tre— news with andrew pierce and bev turner, the former— news with andrew pierce and bev turner, the former president demett— turner, the former president donald trump— turner, the former president donald trump . �*ftt�*ticc turner, the former president donald trump . �*fttriii donald trump. well, he's now sexily arnie. he's been told he's sexually assaulted a rioter. a jury found in his civil case. he says he's never even met the woman he calls it a witch hunt. but is this now the end of his attempt to go back to the white house? it's the will

of the the white house? it's the will et ttte eeeete— the white house? it's the will of the people, suella- vet“ 7 it's the will of the people, suella braverman tette— of the people, suella braverman tette tre— of the people, suella braverman tells the house— of the people, suella braverman tells the house of— of the people, suella braverman tells the house of lords not to week— tells the house of lords not to tteet ter— tells the house of lords not to block her illegal— tells the house of lords not to block her illegal migration ette— block her illegal migration ttte tw— block her illegal migration bill, but widespread opposition is bill, but widespread opposition te expectedr — bill, but widespread opposition is expected, including from the wettttettee— is expected, including from the wettttettee et— is expected, including from the archbishop of canterbury . archbishop of canterbury. weree-t— archbishop of canterbury. were-e teet. — archbishop of canterbury. harry's back. well,- archbishop of canterbury. harry's back. well, he's not back , but the hacking case is back, but the hacking case is back. this time, the prince is taking action against mirror newspapers. we'll be live at the court. and labour under pressure over a coalitia of chaos as sir keir starmer refuses to rule out a deal with the lib dems . get a deal with the lib dems. get involved with the : t get involved with the conversation ttte— involved with the conversation tttte memtmg— involved with the conversation this morning. let— involved with the conversation this morning. let us know your tttewgttte. — this morning. let us know your thoughts. vaiews@gbnews.uk is the emet— thoughts. vaiews@gbnews.uk is the email address, but first of ge— the email address, but first of gr, rere— the email address, but first of gr, tere te— the email address, but first of all, here is your— the email address, but first of all, here is your news with beth tweet— all, here is your news with beth tteet .— all, here is your news with beth tteet . — all, here is your news with beth tteet . tee— all, here is your news with beth mead . bev thank— all, here is your news with beth mead . “rites/m“ e: mead. bev thank you. good morning. here's your latest headunes morning. here's your latest headlines from the newsroom. at 10:01, a us jury has found former president donald trump sexually abused a magazine writer in the 1990s and then

defamed her by branding her a liar . he's defamed her by branding her a liar. he's been ordered to pay nearly £4 million in damages to the columnist e jean carroll mr trump will not face a prison sentence as the trial was a civil case following the verdict, ms carroll said it was a victory for every woman who suffered because she was not believed . mr trump has called believed. mr trump has called the verdict a disgrace and says he will appeal . i have he will appeal. i have absolutely— he will appeal. i have absolutely no- ii i have absolutely no idea who this woman is. the— absolutely no idea who this woman is. the verdict is a ttegreee— woman is. the verdict is a ttegreee. a— woman is. the verdict is a disgrace. a continuing nation of the greatest— disgrace. a continuing nation of the greatest witch— disgrace. a continuing nation of the greatest witch hunt of all ttme— the greatest witch hunt of all ttme . — the greatest witch hunt of all ttme . wete— the greatest witch hunt of all time . well, this— the greatest witch hunt of all time . well, this is- the greatest witch hunt of all time . time. well, this is just one of several charges that donald trump is facing, including an investigation into the capitol hill insurrection and election interference in georgia . us interference in georgia. us discrimination attorney gloria allred says he's garnering support by peddling lies. he's actually exploiting the fact that he is being investigated , that he is being investigated, that he is being investigated,

that he is being investigated, that he is being indicted. he is raising money, millions- that he is being indicted. he is raising money, millions of- raising money, millions of terms— raising money, millions of tettere .— raising money, millions of dollars , calling himself a dollars, calling himself a wtettm — dollars, calling himself a wtettm .— dollars, calling himself a wtettm , e— dollars, calling himself a victim , a witch hunt and all of victim, a witch hunt and all of tree— victim, a witch hunt and all of the ether— victim, a witch hunt and all of the other phrases— victim, a witch hunt and all of the other phrases that he uses ttme— the other phrases that he uses ttme mt— the other phrases that he uses time and again— the other phrases that he uses time and again in— the other phrases that he uses time and again in his fundraising- time and again in his fundraising off of poor people we— fundraising off of poor people we tettewe— fundraising off of poor people who believe in— fundraising off of poor people who believe in him is being investigated.— who believe in him is being investigated. also by the eeeetet— investigated. also by the special counsel doctors and wttt— special counsel doctors and nurses will soon _ special counsel doctors and nurses will soon be able to trem— nurses will soon be able to tretm em— nurses will soon be able to train on the— nurses will soon be able to train on the job— nurses will soon be able to train on the job amid plans to teette— train on the job amid plans to teette wes— train on the job amid plans to tackle nhs workforce shortages is tackle nhs workforce shortages te we— tackle nhs workforce shortages te we te— tackle nhs workforce shortages te we te r— tackle nhs workforce shortages te we te r m— tackle nhs workforce shortages te we te r tm to— tackle nhs workforce shortages is up to 1 in 10 doctors and a ttttrt— is up to 1 in 10 doctors and a ttttrt et— is up to 1 in 10 doctors and a third of nurses— is up to 1 in 10 doctors and a third of nurses could be trained via third of nurses could be trained we tre— third of nurses could be trained via the apprenticeship route in the eemtmg— via the apprenticeship route in the coming years. : the coming years. the head of the coming years. the head of the nhs says this gives an opportunity for school leavers to earn while they learn the expansion of apprenticeships is also said to offer an alternate live to the traditional university degree. the uk is set to make russia's mercenary wagner group a proscribed terrorist organisation. that's according to the times newspaper, which says the move is likely to happen within weeks. the wagner group has been

fighting alongside russian forces in eastern ukraine. the decision would mean it will be a criminal offence to join and support the group and it will also apply to displaying its logo in public or attending its meetings. similar proscribed groups include the islamic state and group national action in pakistan. almost 1000 supporters of the former prime minister imran khan have been arrested since clashes with police began yesterday. imran khan was arrested by anti—corruption police and local media. there are now reporting his former secretary—general has also been taken into custody . over 130 taken into custody. over 130 police officials have been injured 25 police vehicles have been set on fire and dozens of government buildings have been looted in the punjab province . looted in the punjab province. back here, a phone hacking trial involving the duke of sussex and the mirror group newspapers is set to begin today. prince harry will enter the witness box over what he's calling unlawful information gathering. other

celebrities involved include former girls aloud singer cheryl the estate of george michael and footballer ian wright. but the tabloid is contesting the claims , arguing that some of them have been brought too late longer lorries will be allowed on british roads and a new government plans to carry more goods with fewer journeys . it goods with fewer journeys. it will mean hgvs can be up to two metres long, with a maximum length of up to 61ft. the government says drivers will be able to move the same amount of goods but will use 8% fewer journeys . the vehicles could be journeys. the vehicles could be allowed on roads from the 31st of may. a 23 year old british man has pleaded guilty to hacking into the twitter accounts of more than 100 people, including celebrities. joseph james o'connor has accessed the accounts of high profile figures , including joe profile figures, including joe biden, barack obama and elon musk . he's facing charges which musk. he's facing charges which carry a maximum sentence of more than 70 years in prison . the

than 70 years in prison. the crimes took place in 2020 when he was aged 19. he'll be sentenced in june , the first sentenced in june, the first baby with dna from three people has been born in the uk. the treatment aims to prevent the passing of defective genes from mothers by giving the baby dna from its mother, father and a female donor. the baby receives most of their dna from the two parents with just nought point 1% from a donor. the fertility regulator ehcr , says less than regulator ehcr, says less than five babies have been born using the technique . parts of england the technique. parts of england have been hit by hail, storms, thunder and flash flooding. villages in somerset have been overcome by extreme rushing water. the met office is warning heavy showers will continue over the next two days, with some areas seeing over four centimetres of rain in a three hour period. thunderstorm alerts are in place for southern england east anglia and parts of the midlands.

england east anglia and parts of the midlands . as you're up to the midlands. as you're up to date on gb news now it's back to andrew and bev . andrew and bev. i think big storyt— andrew and bev. i think big were tee-t— andrew and bev. i think big story, isn't it? _ andrew and bev. i think big story, isn't it? a— andrew and bev. i think big story, isn't it? a tiny- andrew and bev. i think big story, isn't it? a tiny bit more donald trump sexually abused magazine writer e jean carroll in 1990s, but didn't find the allegations she made that he raped her. that's right . and yet raped her. that's right. and yet he tree— raped her. that's right. and yet he tree tet— raped her. that's right. and yet he tree tet te— raped her. that's right. and yet he has had to pay— raped her. that's right. and yet he has had to pay her- : that's right. and yet he has had to pay her $5 million in he has had to pay her $5 million tm temegee— he has had to pay her $5 million tm temegee .— he has had to pay her $5 million in damages . the— he has had to pay her $5 million in damages . the jury, because in damages. the jury, because the jury— in damages. the jury, because the jury concluded that calling the jury concluded that calling the accusations— the jury concluded that calling the accusations a— the jury concluded that calling the accusations a hoax and a lie eewerew— the accusations a hoax and a lie severely harmed— the accusations a hoax and a lie severely harmed her reputation. but severely harmed her reputation. ew tt— severely harmed her reputation. ew tt trey-we— severely harmed her reputation. but if they've concluded that he tttm-e— but if they've concluded that he gene, rte-e— but if they've concluded that he didn't, he's not— but if they've concluded that he didn't, he's not guilty of what ette— didn't, he's not guilty of what the eewet— didn't, he's not guilty of what she accused him— didn't, he's not guilty of what she accused him of, doesn't that mete— she accused him of, doesn't that mete ter— she accused him of, doesn't that mete tter e— she accused him of, doesn't that make her a liar— she accused him of, doesn't that make her a liar extraordinary? wett— make her a liar extraordinary? wett tetmtmg— make her a liar extraordinary? well joining us— make her a liar extraordinary? well joining us for more emewete— well joining us for more emewete te— well joining us for more analysis is the chairman of tteewttteem— analysis is the chairman of republican overseas uk. /tit analysis is the chairman of republican overseas uk. /ti. republican overseas uk. you know m..— republican overseas uk. you know ttm-swemem— republican overseas uk. you know him, swenson, who is with him, greg swenson, who is with us greg it is an us now. greg it is an extraordinary thing, isn't it ? extraordinary thing, isn't it? she of rape. the she accused him of rape. the jury she accused him of rape. the jury didn't agree with that. they agreed . they decided they agreed. they decided he'd sexually assaulted her, but they

paid more damages for paid her more damages for defamation than for the sexual assault. it's a real hotchpotch . yeah , it's confusing. and i . yeah, it's confusing. and i emet— . yeah, it's confusing. and i ttmt teet— . yeah, it's confusing. and i think that nobody's really going to be able to know , you know, to be able to know, you know, who's telling the truth here, who's telling the truth here, who's telling? telling the whole truth . and i think this looks, truth. and i think this looks, again , like, you know, more again, like, you know, more weaponization of the justice system. i'm not suggesting that she's lying . i mean, i don't she's lying. i mean, i don't know that. but this is just one of many cases that have been filed going back 7 or 8 years now. another case that of, you know, that occurred 17 years ago and then she was really pushed by a handful of real trump haters to proceed with this. and, you know, good for her. she won. if she's telling the truth . but i'm just not sure it looks like another case of the, you know, another political assault on the former president. who would these trump haters be, greg? well, would these trump haters be, greg? well , surely, kellyanne greg? well, surely, kellyanne cemww-e— greg? well, surely, kellyanne conway's husband,— citing7’ well, surely, kellyanne conway's husband, george conway,

ttmt— conway's husband, george conway, ttmt et— conway's husband, george conway, ttmt et tet— conway's husband, george conway, kind of led the _ conway's husband, george conway, kind of led the charge here and it kind of led the charge here and tr we— kind of led the charge here and it was financed— kind of led the charge here and it was financed by— kind of led the charge here and it was financed by the founder, ttett— it was financed by the founder, reid hoffman— it was financed by the founder, reid hoffman . _ it was financed by the founder, reid hoffman . ti �*7 f: reid hoffman. he financed the case. he's the founder of linkedin and other real trump hater. and so , you know, you hater. and so, you know, you again, it doesn't mean he's telling the truth or not telling the truth, but it's pretty clear that, you know, there's been a seven year effort, eight year effort at getting so—called getting trump. and again , getting trump. and again, without knowing whether it has merit or not, clearly the alvin bragg indictment did not have legal merit to it, but they proceeded anyway. but it looks like, you know, the democrats and the media really want to want to help trump win the nomination because this this case will actually boost his numbers. and that's, you know , numbers. and that's, you know, clearly the raid on mar a lago , clearly the raid on mar a lago, as well as the alvin bragg indictment, really helped his cause. indictment, really helped his cause . and you could see it in cause. and you could see it in the poll numbers. i'm not saying they're suggesting that they're not suggesting that that will right through the will last right through the primaries. know, it's primaries. but, you know, it's definitely a campaign on the left to make president trump the nominee and just to be clear, so

kellyanne conway, greg, if you say she was partly behind this, she's the woman who used that phrase. there are alternative teete— phrase. there are alternative facts because _ phrase. there are alternative facts because she— there are alternative facts because she used to work for facts because she used to work ter ereettemt— facts because she used to work for president trump, right? teete— for president trump, right? weete rm— for president trump, right? yeah, i'm sorry,— for president trump, right? yeah, i'm sorry, bev. \tit yeah, i'm sorry, bev. no, i memt— yeah, i'm sorry, bev. no, i meeet ter— yeah, i'm sorry, bev. no, i meant her husband or actually now ex—husband was very much a trump opponent. it's kind of a funny marriage. so it wasn't kellyanne conway that's behind it. it's george conway who's who is really behind and really pressured the plaintiff to file. and so , you know, it's again, and so, you know, it's again, this could backfire on the democrats right now. they want trump to be the nominee because they think he's the easiest to beat and perhaps the only one that biden could beat in the general election. but that could backfire on them in many ways. one is he could possibly win, which would which would really be a massive backfire on on the left, but also , you know, it left, but also, you know, it doesn't mean he'll win the nomination. someone else could win the nomination. it's still way early. could be. rhonda

santos, could be glenn youngkin could be haley and any of could be nikki haley and any of those people would be beat biden in the general election. so this could really i mean, it's really a gamble on on the on the dems acas and the media with it's a big week for the immigration story here in the uk this week greg but it's arguably even bigger in the us. title 42 eteetwew— bigger in the us. title 42 absolutely expires- 9915” “ title 42 absolutely expires tomorrow. teet— absolutely expires tomorrow. just extrem— absolutely expires tomorrow. just explain to— absolutely expires tomorrow. just explain to people what this t— just explain to people what this t eem-t— just explain to people what this means. i can't believe there's met— means. i can't believe there's met mere— means. i can't believe there's met et— means. i can't believe there's not more of the— means. i can't believe there's not more of the british global mette— not more of the british global mette reetw— not more of the british global media really talking about this. it's media really talking about this. tt-e twge— media really talking about this. we twge . — media really talking about this. tt-e twge . rte— media really talking about this. it's huge . it's really- media really talking about this. it's huge . g ”tiring ti it's huge. it's really enormous. and i mean, the first travesty is that the so called covid emergency is only officially ending tomorrow. that's the first absurd point to make here that, you know, until until tomorrow, a uk citizen in without a vaccination could not enter the united states at and it just proves the insanity . oh it just proves the insanity. oh if we lost greg just to be

eeeet— if we lost greg just to be clear, what— if we lost greg just to be clear, what title 42 is, this was a restriction- clear, what title 42 is, this was a restriction placed by treme— was a restriction placed by trwme twtmg— was a restriction placed by trump during the pandemic to say that trump during the pandemic to say tttet eeeete— trump during the pandemic to say that people couldn't travel teeewee— that people couldn't travel teeewee et— that people couldn't travel because of with the centre of tteeeeee— because of with the centre of diseases control— because of with the centre of diseases control was was trwewet— diseases control was was tmwewet m— diseases control was was involved in this decision that eeetree— involved in this decision that expires tomorrow. and there are ewremtw— expires tomorrow. and there are ewremtw te— expires tomorrow. and there are currently be thousands hundreds of currently be thousands hundreds et tteweemte— currently be thousands hundreds of thousands of— currently be thousands hundreds of thousands of people gathering at of thousands of people gathering et tre— of thousands of people gathering et ttte teeter— of thousands of people gathering at the border of— of thousands of people gathering at the border of mexico , the at the border of mexico, the tteeteem — at the border of mexico, the mexican border— at the border of mexico, the mexican border with america to tete — mexican border with america to take advantage _ mexican border with america to take advantage of— mexican border with america to take advantage of this expiration— take advantage of this expiration of- take advantage of this expiration of this particular eeweet— expiration of this particular eeweet .— expiration of this particular eeweet . we— expiration of this particular clause . we will— expiration of this particular clause . we will only really see clause. we will only really see tomorrow from _ clause. we will only really see tomorrow from on _ clause. we will only really see tomorrow from on what's going to teeeem— tomorrow from on what's going to teeeem tttere. — tomorrow from on what's going to happen there. but— tomorrow from on what's going to happen there. but honestly, weret— happen there. but honestly, wetett ttte— happen there. but honestly, watch this space. it's going to be huge— watch this space. it's going to be huge because— watch this space. it's going to be huge because biden is doing metttmg— be huge because biden is doing nothing-ib— be huge because biden is doing nothing-it. and- be huge because biden is doing nothing it. and biden nothing about it. and biden is a is nothing about it. and biden is a te-wetmg— nothing about it. and biden is a is-using-allow. nothing about it. and biden is al is-using-allow for is somehow using it to allow for ttwttrete— is somehow using it to allow for twetrete et— is somehow using it to allow for hundreds of thousands of and his wee— hundreds of thousands of and his ereettemt— hundreds of thousands of and his vice president, harris, vice president, kamala harris, wee-e— vice president, kamala harris, wtte-e weeeeet — vice president, kamala harris, who's useless. wbifi: vice president, kamala harris, who's useless. we all know that she's charge of this policy she's in charge of this policy and done nothing either. and she's done nothing either. so we think we've got so if we think we've got problems with stopping the boats , is going to be absolutely , this is going to be absolutely there's talk that they're going to in central park to be refugees in central park in new tents tented in new york, tents tented communities. but in the same way that communities. but in the same way the we— communities. but in the same way the we ee— communities. but in the same way that we are here— f “ g but in the same way that we are here accommodating and that we are here accommodating emt ereettmg— that we are here accommodating and creating accommodation for eeeete— and creating accommodation for eeeete wee— and creating accommodation for eeeete we went— and creating accommodation for people who want arrive here people who want to arrive here wtttewt— people who want to arrive here

wttttewt ttte — people who want to arrive here without the paperwork, without the legal paperwork, trey— without the legal paperwork, thew-tre- without the legal paperwork, they-the same- without the legal paperwork, they the same in they are doing the same in amertee— they are doing the same in america, but— they are doing the same in america, but on— they are doing the same in america, but on vast scale . america, but on a vast scale. teee— america, but on a vast scale. you're absolutely— america, but on a vast scale. you're absolutely right. moving on, you're absolutely right. moving teeters— you're absolutely right. moving on, doctors and— you're absolutely right. moving on, doctors and nurses will be ette— on, doctors and nurses will be ewe-em— on, doctors and nurses will be ette-em tre- on, doctors and nurses will be able -on the job. - on, doctors and nurses will be able-on the job. i- on, doctors and nurses will be able on the job. i made able to train on the job. i made eteee— able to train on the job. i made eteee te— able to train on the job. i made plans to tackle— able to train on the job. i made plans to tackle nhs workforce etertegee. — plans to tackle nhs workforce etertegeelte— plans to tackle nhs workforce etertegeelte t— plans to tackle nhs workforce shortages-to 1 in- plans to tackle nhs workforce shortages. to 1 in 10 doctors shortages. up to 1 in 10 doctors eet— shortages. up to 1 in 10 doctors and-nurses-bel and a third of nurses may be tretmet— and a third of nurses may be trained apprenticeships in trained in apprenticeships in the eemtmg— trained in apprenticeships in the coming years. is this the right do and will this right thing to do and will this be enough to train doctors to a good for more analysis , good level? for more analysis, we're going to speak the gp we're going to speak to the gp at dr. lawrence at sameday. doctor, dr. lawrence gerlis. good morning. good morning. well, this has come out of nowhere, doctor . it's on the of nowhere, doctor. it's on the front page of the daily telegraph for school leavers. we have to start working as doctors without to university . without going to university. under plans to fix the nhs staffing crisis. do you support that? it staffing crisis. do you support that ? it actually, in a sense, that? it actually, in a sense, i go.— that? it actually, in a sense, i te. ettttewgtt— that? it actually, in a sense, i te. ettttewgtt t— $37 it actually, in a sense, i do, although i suspect the royal cettegee— do, although i suspect the royal cettegee wttt— do, although i suspect the royal colleges will will— do, although i suspect the royal colleges will will quash this tmtttettwe— colleges will will quash this initiative when— colleges will will quash this initiative when i— colleges will will quash this initiative when i was a medical etetemt— initiative when i was a medical etwtemt. t— initiative when i was a medical student, i spent— initiative when i was a medical student, i spent three years in a student, i spent three years in e teteretew— student, i spent three years in a laboratory and— student, i spent three years in a laboratory and library and teetwe— a laboratory and library and lecture hall— a laboratory and library and lecture hall before even going tmte— lecture hall before even going tmte teeettet— lecture hall before even going into hospital and— lecture hall before even going into hospital and similarly, nurses who used to train on werte— nurses who used to train on wards were forced to do a three

weer— wards were forced to do a three weer tegree— wards were forced to do a three year degree course. and i think tetr— year degree course. and i think tettt et— year degree course. and i think both of those— year degree course. and i think both of those are— year degree course. and i think both of those are unfortunate . both of those are unfortunate. we both of those are unfortunate. we wee— both of those are unfortunate. we were desperate to get into teeettete— we were desperate to get into teeettete .— we were desperate to get into hospitals . batus and if it is a hospitals. batus and if it is a pet— hospitals. batus and if it is a pet et— hospitals. batus and if it is a pet et memte.— hospitals. batus and if it is a pair of hands, as— hospitals. batus and if it is a pair of hands, as you know as wete— pair of hands, as you know as wet trey-we— pair of hands, as you know as well, they've got— pair of hands, as you know as well, they've got to do their tretmtmg — well, they've got to do their tretmtmg ee— well, they've got to do their training as well. "cat training as well. they pass the exams. iactually_ training as well. they pass the exams. i actually think- training as well. "cat ti,te

gp,— ten years, ten years to train a we wnten— ten years, ten years to train a we wnten wee— ten years, ten years to train a gp, which, you know , i think is gp, which, you know, i think is ternete— gp, which, you know, i think is ternete e— gp, which, you know, i think is perhaps a little— gp, which, you know, i think is perhaps a little bit unreasonable given the perhaps a little bit— unreasonable given the shortages get.— unreasonable given the shortages get. ant— unreasonable given the shortages get. ant t— unreasonable given the shortages we've got. and i think the same tntng— we've got. and i think the same tntng nettenet— we've got. and i think the same thing happened with nurses. it's a thing happened with nurses. it's ewew— thing happened with nurses. it's ewew et— thing happened with nurses. it's ewew et tnew— thing happened with nurses. it's a way of they felt— thing happened with nurses. it's a way of they felt of improving the a way of they felt of improving tne etetwe— a way of they felt of improving the status of— a way of they felt of improving the status of the— a way of they felt of improving the status of the profession to mete— the status of the profession to mete tnem — the status of the profession to make them have— the status of the profession to make them have a degree and then trtng— make them have a degree and then trtng tnem— make them have a degree and then trtng tnem en— make them have a degree and then trtng tnem en te— make them have a degree and then bring them on to the— make them have a degree and then bring them on to the wards. make them have a degree and then bring them on to the wards . and bring them on to the wards. and a bring them on to the wards. and e tet— bring them on to the wards. and e tet et— bring them on to the wards. and a lot of student— bring them on to the wards. and a lot of student nurses felt tnew— a lot of student nurses felt tnew were— a lot of student nurses felt they were being used as unpaid , they were being used as unpaid, wnettttet— they were being used as unpaid, unskilled labour,— they were being used as unpaid, unskilled labour, which which may— unskilled labour, which which mew-teen— unskilled labour, which which mew-teen tne- unskilled labour, which which may been the case, but but may have been the case, but but you— may have been the case, but but wee tnew— may have been the case, but but wee tnew. tnet— may have been the case, but but you know, that has— may have been the case, but but you know, that has been the move tne— you know, that has been the move tne teet— you know, that has been the move over the last 10— you know, that has been the move over the last 10 or— you know, that has been the move over the last 10 or 15— you know, that has been the move over the last 10 or 15 years to tete— over the last 10 or 15 years to tete eeette— over the last 10 or 15 years to take people out— over the last 10 or 15 years to take people out of the hospital . ant— take people out of the hospital . ant t— take people out of the hospital . ant t tntnt— take people out of the hospital . and i think now— take people out of the hospital . and i think now we need them teet— . and i think now we need them teet tn. — . and i think now we need them teet tn. se— . and i think now we need them back in. so do— . and i think now we need them back in. so do we— . and i think now we need them back in. titit ti. . and i think now we need them back in. titit ri. back in. so do we know quite how this will work? will it be that it's the normal route post a—levels ? they will do as you a—levels? they will do as you say, exams. they'll have to sit in lectures, but that's a long side working in hospitals . side working in hospitals. well, i'm hoping that's the wnet— well, i'm hoping that's the case. what i— well, i'm hoping that's the case. what i don't want to see is case. what i don't want to see te e— case. what i don't want to see tee eeeent— case. what i don't want to see is a second class— case. what i don't want to see is a second class medical degree . we-we— is a second class medical degree . we-we get— is a second class medical degree . we've got problems at the mement — . we've got problems at the moment. there— . we've got problems at the moment. there are physician eeeeeteete— moment. there are physician associates who— moment. there are physician associates who are unqualified teetere— associates who are unqualified teetere tet— associates who are unqualified doctors, but there's quite a lot of doctors, but there's quite a lot et ergw— doctors, but there's quite a lot of argv bargy— doctors, but there's quite a lot of argv bargv that_ doctors, but there's quite a lot of argy bargy that goes on tetween— of argy bargy that goes on between doctors and pas at the mement — between doctors and pas at the mement te—

between doctors and pas at the moment. so the— between doctors and pas at the moment. so the last thing we went— moment. so the last thing we went te— moment. so the last thing we went te e— moment. so the last thing we went te e een— moment. so the last thing we want is a sort of— moment. so the last thing we want is a sort of hierarchy of teetere. — want is a sort of hierarchy of teetere. .t-m— want is a sort of hierarchy of doctors. i'm hoping that the doctors. now i'm hoping that the five doctors. now i'm hoping that the ttwe weer— doctors. now i'm hoping that the five year medical— doctors. now i'm hoping that the five year medical degree will be an five year medical degree will be en tntegretet— five year medical degree will be an integrated one— five year medical degree will be an integrated one with hospitals . teeteree— an integrated one with hospitals , lectures, laboratories , and i , lectures, laboratories, and i eeteettw— , lectures, laboratories, and i actually think— , lectures, laboratories, and i actually think the doctors will eet— actually think the doctors will eet et— actually think the doctors will come out of that— actually think the doctors will come out of that in a very well reentet— come out of that in a very well reentetwew. — come out of that in a very well rounded way. “ti5 tiditirit. you rounded way. sounds great. you tettet— rounded way. sounds great. you tettet eteet— rounded way. sounds great. you talked about the— rounded way. sounds great. you talked about the royal— rounded way. i tiditirit. you talked about the royal colleges. cen— talked about the royal colleges. ten new— talked about the royal colleges. can they block— talked about the royal colleges. can they block this doctor or tne — can they block this doctor or can the government say, we're tetng— can the government say, we're tetng tt— can the government say, we're tetng tr e — can the government say, we're tetng tte on.— can the government say, we're doing it? q“ ”ti: trig doing it? oh, they're very powerful . it'll be the royal powerful. it'll be the royal colleges. it'll be the bma, it'll be the rcn , it'll be all it'll be the rcn, it'll be all of them. they will. they will. my of them. they will. they will. my guess is they'll fight tooth and nail against this . okay. all and nail against this. okay. all right. and nail against this. okay. all rtgnt. tnent— and nail against this. okay. all right. thank you— and nail against this. okay. all right. thank you so— i l 333 okay. all right. thank you so much, i l 5tig5t okay. all right. thank you so much, dr. lawrence gerlis.— right. thank you so much, dr. lawrence gerlis. there is a very eenettte— lawrence gerlis. there is a very sensible idea.— lawrence gerlis. there is a very sensible idea. well, it comes off sensible idea. well, it comes ett tne— sensible idea. well, it comes off the back— sensible idea. well, it comes off the back of— sensible idea. well, it comes off the back of our discussion weetertew— off the back of our discussion yesterday about— off the back of our discussion yesterday about pharmacists tetng— yesterday about pharmacists tetng ette— yesterday about pharmacists being able to— yesterday about pharmacists being able to prescribe sensible tnet— being able to prescribe sensible tnet eemet— being able to prescribe sensible that seemed-a— being able to prescribe sensible that seemed a sensible idea that seemed like a sensible idea as that seemed like a sensible idea ee—ant- that seemed like a sensible idea ee—ant ttel that seemed like a sensible idea ee—ant tte en as well. yeah yeah. and it's on the page of it from the front page of it came from nowhere. see this nowhere. you didn't see this coming? yes. i was talking to steve bartlett, the health secretary, and steve bartlett, the health setsaid y, and steve bartlett, the health setsaid we've and steve bartlett, the health setsaid we've got and steve bartlett, the health setsaid we've got some and steve bartlett, the health setsaid we've got some reallyind he said we've got some really interesting stuff coming up here. is. you what? here. it is. and you know what? i the problem has i think part of the problem has teen—e— i think part of the problem has

teen—e tet— i think part of the problem has teen—e tet et- i think part of the problem has been a lot of medical been with quite a lot of medical teette—ttt- people recently is this bit controversial. _ people recently is this bit controversial. one the most controversial. one of the most tmtertent— controversial. one of the most tmtertent-e- controversial. one of the most important a medic are important skills for a medic are teette— important skills for a medic are teeete etttte. — important skills for a medic are people skills. being able to communicate— communicate with your patients, —eenteetl communicate with your patients, —wermeenteet -i warm compassion, eye contact. ant— warm compassion, eye contact. ant wnen— warm compassion, eye contact. ant wnen wewe— warm compassion, eye contact. and when we've had a medical ewetem— and when we've had a medical ewetem-nee— and when we've had a medical system -has only- and when we've had a medical system has only ever taken system which has only ever taken off system which has only ever taken ett tne— system which has only ever taken ett tne — system which has only ever taken off the cream of— system which has only ever taken off the cream of the— system which has only ever taken off the cream of the crop, we've system which has only ever taken off ten cream of the crop, we've system which has only ever taken off ten starsi of the crop, we've system which has only ever taken off ten starsi oigcse,rop, we've system which has only ever taken off ten starsi oigcse,rop, a's/e got ten stars at gcse, five a's at got ten stars at gcse, five a's et a—tewet— got ten stars at gcse, five a's at a—level. they— got ten stars at gcse, five a's at a—level. they aren't always we— at a—level. they aren't always tne meet— at a—level. they aren't always the most personable or socially retetet— the most personable or socially retetet. ent— the most personable or socially relaxed, and they— the most personable or socially relaxed, and they they train for ten weere— relaxed, and they they train for ten weere ent— relaxed, and they they train for ten years and then they move to aeetrette— ten years and then they move to aeetrette. — ten years and then they move to australia. that's— ten years and then they move to australia. rig“ ten years and then they move to australia. . rig“. so australia. that's right. soi tntnt— australia. that's right. soi tntnttnte— australia. that's right. soi think this sounds— australia. ”rig“. so i think this sounds wonderful. ttme— think this sounds wonderful. time-another— think this sounds wonderful. time another honestly time for another one. honestly wett— time for another one. honestly wett ter— time for another one. honestly wett ter ene— time for another one. honestly wait for one good— time for another one. honestly wait for one good idea then time for another one. honestly waitcomeie good idea then time for another one. honestly waitcome alongd idea then time for another one. honestly waitcome along atdea then time for another one. honestly waitcome along at once. then time for another one. honestly waitcome along at once. nowzn two come along at once. now enetner— two come along at once. now another phone— two come along at once. now another phone hacking trial tnwetwtng— another phone hacking triali involving—sussex involving the duke of sussex tegtne— involving the duke of sussex begins-prince- involving the duke of sussex begins-prince harryl involving the duke of sussex. begins-prince harry is begins today. prince harry is suing newspapers suing mirror group newspapers over called unlawful over what he called unlawful information gathering. for more on this, we can speak to the media lawyer, jonathan cohn. jonathan, morning. this is actually a full trial and we will see prince harry in court in the witness box, which is unpressed represented in modern times. it unpressed represented in modern times . it is unpressed represented in modern times. it is in modern times. we— times. it is in modern times. tne teet— times. it is in modern times. the last time— times. it is in modern times. the last time a— . it is in modern times. the last time a senior royal gewe— the last time a senior royal gave evidence— the last time a senior royal gave evidence at- the last time a senior royal gave evidence at a trial was was teet— gave evidence at a trial was was teet tn— gave evidence at a trial was was teet tn tne— gave evidence at a trial was was back in the 18th— gave evidence at a trial was was back in the 18th century. ateerenttw— back in the 18th century. apparently but it is and it you tnew— apparently but it is and it you tnew. we— apparently but it is and it you know, we kind—

apparently but it is and it you know, we kind of— apparently but it is and it you know, we kind of run out of memenet— know, we kind of run out of moments where— know, we kind of run out of moments where we say this is ettreerttnerw— moments where we say this is ettreerttnerw .— moments where we say this is extraordinary , unprecedented. extraordinary, unprecedented. i tne— extraordinary, unprecedented. i mean, the whole— extraordinary, unprecedented. i mean, the whole thing is beyond incomprehensible— mean, the whole thing is beyond incomprehensible all given the ettttete— incomprehensible all given the ettttete et— incomprehensible all given the attitude of the— incomprehensible all given the attitude of the royal family wnten— attitude of the royal family wnten te— attitude of the royal family which is really— attitude of the royal family which is really never to take eetten— which is really never to take eetten te— which is really never to take action to protect— which is really never to take action to protect themselves and the action to protect themselves and me eeerte— action to protect themselves and me eeerte ter— action to protect themselves and the courts for years— action to protect themselves and the courts for years and years ent— the courts for years and years ent weere— the courts for years and years ent weere .— the courts for years and years ent weere . tne— the courts for years and years and years , the mirror is saying and years, the mirror is saying part— and years, the mirror is saying ten et— and years, the mirror is saying pert et tnetr— and years, the mirror is saying part of their defence is that a lot part of their defence is that a tet et— part of their defence is that a tet et tneee— part of their defence is that a lot of these allegations are out of lot of these allegations are out et ttme. — lot of these allegations are out et ttme. tn— lot of these allegations are out of time. in other— lot of these allegations are out of time. “ i of time. in other words, they happened, what, perhaps 25, 30 years ago. so the statute of limitation comes into effect. is that an argument that is will be effective for them ? well, this effective for them? well, this is a effective for them? well, this te e gette — effective for them? well, this is a quite difficult— i 7 well, this is a quite difficult issue for me— is a quite difficult issue for me tetge— is a quite difficult issue for me tetge te— is a quite difficult issue for the judge to decide. so the teete— the judge to decide. so the basic principle— the judge to decide. so the basic principle is this to bring a basic principle is this to bring e tnene— basic principle is this to bring a phone hacking— basic principle is this to bring a phone hacking claim. you have to a phone hacking claim. you have te trtng— a phone hacking claim. you have te trtng tt— a phone hacking claim. you have te trtng tt tn— a phone hacking claim. you have to bring it in within— a phone hacking claim. you have to bring it in within within six weere— to bring it in within within six weere et— to bring it in within within six weere et tne— to bring it in within within six years of the action that you say is years of the action that you say te tne— years of the action that you say is the wrongful— years of the action that you say is the wrongful action. how ever the limitation— is the wrongful action. how ever the limitation act— is the wrongful action. how ever the limitation act gives an eteettten— the limitation act gives an

exception where firstly the eettwttw— exception where firstly the activity has— exception where firstly the activity has been concealed, wnten— activity has been concealed, which obviously— activity has been concealed, which obviously it has in the et— which obviously it has in the case of phone— which obviously it has in the case of phone hacking . and case of phone hacking. and eeeenttw— case of phone hacking. and secondly, where— case of phone hacking. and secondly, where the prospect of etetment— secondly, where the prospect of claimant either— secondly, where the prospect of claimant either didn't know , claimant either didn't know, tnew— claimant either didn't know, tnew tnet— claimant either didn't know, know that the _ claimant either didn't know, know that the phone hacking in this know that the phone hacking in we ee— know that the phone hacking in this case took— know that the phone hacking in this case took place or could net— this case took place or could net newe— this case took place or could not have with— this case took place or could not have with reasonable ttttgenee— not have with reasonable diligence, discovered that the tnene — diligence, discovered that the enene neettng— diligence, discovered that the phone hacking had taken place . phone hacking had taken place. so phone hacking had taken place. se tne— phone hacking had taken place. se me new— phone hacking had taken place. so the issue before the judge is .ttret— so the issue before the judge is .ttret et— so the issue before the judge is . ttret et ete— so the issue before the judge is , first of all, did— so the issue before the judge is , first of all, did prince harry to , first of all, did prince harry te rete— , first of all, did prince harry te tete ntm— , first of all, did prince harry to take him as— , first of all, did prince harry to take him as an— , first of all, did prince harry to take him as an example, did he to take him as an example, did ne tnew— to take him as an example, did ne tnew tnet— to take him as an example, did he know that phone hacking took eteee— he know that phone hacking took eteee teee— he know that phone hacking took place less than— he know that phone hacking took place less than six— he know that phone hacking took place less than six years ago? an ent— place less than six years ago? an ent tt— place less than six years ago? an ent tt ne— place less than six years ago? an and if he didn't— place less than six years ago? an and if he didn't know- place less than six years ago? an and if he didn't know or should he with reasonable diligence or his legal team with reasonable diligence, have discovered it. so in this situation , the newspaper is an situation, the newspaper is an absurd position of saying we denied it, we denied it, we denied it, we denied it, we denied it. but of course , no one denied it. but of course, no one eneett— denied it. but of course, no one eneett newe— denied it. but of course, no one should have believed— titi“ titi . but of course, no one should have believed us when we tentet— should have believed us when we tentet tr.— should have believed us when we tentet tt. se— should have believed us when we denied it. so it's— should have believed us when we denied it. so it's the peculiar teettten— denied it. so it's the peculiar teettten te— denied it. so it's the peculiar position to take,— denied it. so it's the peculiar position to take, isn't it? so he wttt— position to take, isn't it? so he will probably— position to take, isn't it? so he will probably argue, harry will probably argue, well, i couldn't take action because of

my position within the royal family. buti my position within the royal family. but i think in his book, tenetnen— family. but i think in his book, jonathan,ithink_ family. but i think in his book, jonathan,ithink.his- .gt but i think in his book, jonathan, think his book jonathan, i think in his book eteee.— jonathan, i think in his book sparer ne— jonathan, i think in his book spare, he talks— jonathan, i think in his book spare, he talks about he was aware-hacking- spare, he talks about he was aware-hacking in. spare, he talks about he was. aware-hacking in 2010. aware of phone hacking in 2010. wete— aware of phone hacking in 2010. were tnet-e— aware of phone hacking in 2010. well, that's 13— aware of phone hacking in 2010. well, that's 13 years ago. why tttn-t— well, that's 13 years ago. why tttn-t ne— well, that's 13 years ago. why tttn-t ne te— well, that's 13 years ago. why didn't he do something about it went— didn't he do something about it tnene wett— didn't he do something about it then? well i'll— didn't he do something about it then? well i'll look these eteettw— then? well i'll look these eeeettw tne — then? well i'll look these exactly the arguments which are tetng— exactly the arguments which are tetng ttewet— exactly the arguments which are tetng ttewet eet— exactly the arguments which are being played out and they were ttewet— being played out and they were ttewet eet— being played out and they were ttewet eet wew— being played out and they were played out very much they've teen— played out very much they've teen ttewet— played out very much they've been played out— played out very much they've been played out before . titit”ti “ been played out before. more in ether— been played out before. more in etner etetme— been played out before. more in other claims that that he's bringing and more recently against news international the sun titles . but of course the sun titles. but of course the other factor is that for a long time he was in afghanistan . so time he was in afghanistan. so he can't be expected to sort of follow the news in those circumstance . but it's one thing circumstance. but it's one thing to know that generally phone hacking took place, which we learned when mr goodman was sent to jail . it's another thing to to jail. it's another thing to tnew— to jail. it's another thing to tnew tnet— to jail. it's another thing to know that this— . it's another thing to know that this particular neweteter— know that this particular newspaper actually phone eeteettw— newspaper actually phone actually hacked his phone. so it's actually hacked his phone. so tt-e get— actually hacked his phone. so we get te— actually hacked his phone. so we get te te— actually hacked his phone. so it's got to be a— actually hacked his phone. so it's got to be a bit more greneter— it's got to be a bit more granular than - it's got to be a bit more granular than that. it's got to be a bit more- granular than that. okay. thank you granular than that. okay. thank wee ee— granular than that. okay. thank you so much , jonathan. jonathan you so much, jonathan. jonathan covid, their media lawyer. we were both hacked. we were. we

were both hacked. we were. we were we were both hacked. we were we were both hacked. we were i could got new were i could have got a new conservatory that . some conservatory out of that. some of who were hacked did of my mates who were hacked did i the times and i was working for the times and i was working for the times and i being by sister i was being hacked by a sister paper.i i was being hacked by a sister paper . i was i was being hacked by a sister paper. i was just on the telly a bit and i got hacked, hacked, hacked by the news of the world, and we had a ridiculous encounter. i had to go to the police station and they showed me some notes and said, you me some notes and said, do you want charges? i want to press charges? and i said, i'm not traumatised. said, no, i'm not traumatised. and no, i didn't want to slightly regret that. now, now don't going slightly regret that. now, now ten-t—getng te- slightly regret that. now, now don't—going to be| don't forget we're going to be tetttng— don't forget we're going to be talking about— don't forget we're going to be talking about the arrival of tergee— talking about the arrival of tergee te— talking about the arrival of barges to house. hundreds of eewtem— asylum seekers have entered the uk. asylum seekers have entered the wt. —eteettng| uk. we're going to be speaking to . uk. we're going to be speaking te—. teeen-t- uk. we're going to be speaking to_. doesn't really| to one tory mp. doesn't really went— to one tory mp. doesn't really. went—tt-e want them in his patch. no, it's going—

listening to gb news radio . listening to gb news radio. wew— listening to gb news radio. werw geet— listening to gb news radio. very good morning.- listening to gb news radio. very good morning. you- listening to gb news radio. very good morning. you are watching to the point on gb news. it is 1024. the home secretary has warned the house of lords not to defy the will of the british people. their debating the _ their debating the illegal migration bill debating the illegal migration tttt-ttret— debating the illegal migration bill-first time- bill for the first time today. tnte— bill for the first time today. this .archbishop- this the archbishop of canterbury— this the archbishop of canterbury weighed canterbury is going to weighed in canterbury is going to weighed tn—teettn- canterbury is going to weighed tn—teettn wettwi in of course he is justin welby . nee—

in of course he is justin welby . he's expected— in of course he is justin welby . he's expected to- in of course he is justin welby . he's expected to condemn the morality of the bill. it also follows the arrival of a barge set to house hundreds of asylum seekers who've entered the uk. well joining us in the studio for more is mp for south dorset, richard drax . the barge is for more is mp for south dorset, richard drax. the barge is in wew— richard drax. the barge is in your constituency— richard drax. the barge is in your constituency .- ”i 'l�*t”r5t;e< the barge is in your constituency . it's going to your constituency. it's going to tentent— your constituency. it's going to tterttent ent— your constituency. it's going to portland and you— your constituency. it's going to portland and you don't want it? no, portland and you don't want it? we. tte— portland and you don't want it? we. we tn— portland and you don't want it? no, it's in falmouth now, right? it's no, it's in falmouth now, right? we teetgnet— no, it's in falmouth now, right? it's designed for— no, it's in falmouth now, right? it's designed for 222. _ no, it's in falmouth now, right? it's designed for 222. yeah,- it's designed for 222. yeah, it's going to have 506. yeah that's problem number one. yeah. and even if the rooms are doubled, that leaves about 60 without a room. so they're going to have rooms with 3 or 4 on a barge in a highly, highly restricted port with access from an back and forth on a bus. they can get on and off on a bus . ttgtt— they can get on and off on a bus . ttgnt. tnew— they can get on and off on a bus . right. they can't— they can get on and off on a bus . right. they can't wander- . right. they can't wander through the port. so they're going to simply be stuck on what i call it, a quasi prison . i call it, a quasi prison. right. because you won't get everybody off at the same time. right. because you won't get everi)ody off at the same time. right. because you won't get everi thinktff at the same time. right. because you won't get everi think thet the same time. right. because you won't get everi think the frustration time. right. because you won't get everi think the frustration andz. and i think the frustration and the issues and problems that and i think the frustration and the is ofts and problems that and i think the frustration and the is ofts and will problems that and i think the frustration and the is ofts and will have ems that and i think the frustration and the is ofts and will have will that some of them will have will bubble very bubble up. and i'm very concerned what's to concerned about what's going to happen the port. happen on the barge in the port. i'm also concerned with hundreds

of migrants of whom we know nothing. and the minister yesterday could not confirm whether they were free of criminal offences, whether they whatever . and they've been whatever. and they've been walking around a very sensitive seaside resort at the height of summer. but you can't we can't teet— summer. but you can't we can't teet tneee— summer. but you can't we can't keep these people— summer. but you can't we can't keep these people in— but you can't we can't keep these people in hotels at tnte— keep these people in hotels at we nege— keep these people in hotels at this huge public— keep these people in hotels at this huge public expense. tttenert— this huge public expense. richard so— this huge public expense. richard so they've got to go somewhere . this is classic somewhere. this is classic wette— somewhere. this is classic wtttte ten-t— somewhere. this is classic nimby, isn't it?- somewhere. this is classic nimby, isn't it? we want them out nimby, isn't it? we want them eet et— nimby, isn't it? we want them out of hotels,— nimby, isn't it? we want them out of hotels, but— nimby, isn't it? we want them out of hotels, but not in my constituency. _ out of hotels, but not in my constituency. yes, i that's been a constituency. yes, i that's been e tetnt— constituency. yes, i that's been e tetnt mete— constituency. yes, i that's been a point made to— constituency. yes, i that's been a point made to me in many ttmee. — a point made to me in many ttmee. ant— a point made to me in many ttmee. ant t— a point made to me in many times. and i can- a point made to me in many times. ' “ti ti5“ trig a point made to me in many times. and i can very clearly see disagree with you in the sense that this is, as i say, a highly restricted form of royal naval port. it's not a centre. for example , in the middle of for example, in the middle of the countryside or near a big area of big conurbation , even area of big conurbation, even where the resources can be more easily targeted. this is stuck away in a port that no one can get to. you've got to go through security to get there and on a bus to get to the actual barge.

there's no room for them other than on the barge do than on the barge to do anything. to be anything. they're going to be given £9 a week to go into my constituency what? constituency and to do what? i mean, this is a lot of 25 to 30 year olds who will have no economic migrants anyway . most economic migrants anyway. most of them will be economic migrants wandering around in a very seaside resort at very sensitive seaside resort at the height summer. how much the height of summer. how much warning the height of summer. how much werntng ttt— the height of summer. how much werntng ttt-get— the height of summer. how much warning did-get-this- the height of summer. how much warn wasiid-get-this- the height of summer. how much warn was arriving|et-this- the height of summer. how much warn was arriving in .this- rig“. how much warn was arriving in your this rig“. how much warn was arriving in your port? boat was arriving in your port? tne— boat was arriving in your port? the tree— boat was arriving in your port? the ttret t— boat was arriving in your port? the first i heard— boat was arriving in your port? the first i heard was— boat was arriving in your port? the first i heard was about- the first i heard was about a week before it was announced , week before it was announced, and the home secretary rang me . and the home secretary rang me. ithen and the home secretary rang me. i then saw the minister in the division lobby that same day and told them both what i thought in a very blunt way, courteous, of course, of course. i then heard nothing more and i've heard nothing more and i've heard nothing more and i've heard nothing more from them . i get nothing more from them. i get all my news from organisations like you and the press and of course my counsellor with whom i'm working very closely. and what's happened is all the negotiations that have happened behind our back with a private port, the port have done this for commercial reasons and now having decided to put them there, they're now asking us

what if we do this? can you help? it's the wrong way round. who gets paid then you say they're commercial they're doing it for commercial reasons. what the port is being tett— reasons. what the port is being tett-tneee— reasons. what the port is being paid-these refugees?- paid to take these refugees? yest _ paid to take these refugees? tee—ere- paid to take these refugees?| teeee— tnew yes, it is. how much are they tetng— yes, it is. how much are they tetng-we— yes, it is. how much are they being-we don't- yes, it is. how much are they| being-we don't know. yes, it is. how much are they- being-we don't know. what being paid? we don't know. what but it's. it's apparently a private figure negotiated in private. so we weren't the taxpayer is paying public money. and that's that's like if you if weere— and that's that's like if you if you're more a boat in a harbour wee— you're more a boat in a harbour wee newe— you're more a boat in a harbour wee newe te— you're more a boat in a harbour wee newe te pav— you're more a boat in a harbour wee newe te eew te— you're more a boat in a harbour you have to pay to have it were.— you have to pay to have it were te— you have to pay to have it there. do we— you have to pay to have it there. do we know how long the teet— there. do we know how long the teet-te— there. do we know how long the eeet-te te— there. do we know how long the boat-to be there?- there. do we know how long the boat to be there? have boat is going to be there? have tnew— boat is going to be there? have tnew gtwen— boat is going to be there? have tnew gtwen wee— boat is going to be there? have they given you initially? tntttettw— they given you initially? initially, . months. - they given you initially? initially,.months. fear initially, 18 months. but i fear because this because the problem in this country big , i suspect country is so big, i suspect barges will increase and that barges will increase and that barge stay for a lot barge will stay there for a lot longer. that longer. how did that conversation sevilla conversation go when sevilla braverman she said braverman rang you and she said , richard, are sitting down? , richard, are you sitting down? how does that conversation go ? how does that conversation go? teee— how does that conversation go? teee ene— how does that conversation go? teee ene teee— how does that conversation go? does she does she— how does that conversation go? does she does she tell you this is does she does she tell you this te e— does she does she tell you this te e tett— does she does she tell you this is a fait accompli— does she does she tell you this is a fait accompli or is she eettng— is a fait accompli or is she eettng weer— is a fait accompli or is she asking your permission? i think fait asking your permission? i think tett-weett— asking your permission? i think fait-would be- asking your permission? i think fait-would be she- fait accompli would be she did say fait accompli would be she did eew we— fait accompli would be she did eew we went— fait accompli would be she did say we haven't quite decided yet,— say we haven't quite decided yet tet— say we haven't quite decided wet. tet rm— say we haven't quite decided yet, but i'm afraid i when the teete— yet, but i'm afraid i when the news broke a— yet, but i'm afraid i when the news broke a few— yet, but i'm afraid i when the news broke a few days later that it news broke a few days later that tt net— news broke a few days later that tt net teen— news broke a few days later that it had been decided and i didn't

gette— it had been decided and i didn't gette egree— it had been decided and i didn't quite agree with— it had been decided and i didn't quite agree with that approach. no, quite agree with that approach. we. r— quite agree with that approach. we. r we— quite agree with that approach. we. r net— quite agree with that approach. no, i was not consulted- quite agree with that approach. no, i was not consulted or- no, i was not consulted or asked. none of us were. that's the point i've been making. we just have no preparation or comment as to our concerns and all the statutory authorities agree with me and this is the wrong place for this particular why did they choose your port? well, if you look on the wetette— well, if you look on the website, it— well, if you look on the website, it says for jobs and investment. _ website, it says for jobs and investment. and- website, it says for jobs and investment. ' “ti “ website, it says for jobs and investment. “ti “ i “ investment. and in my speech in the house of commons recently, i said, what jobs and what investment? i don't see jobs on the boats, presumably. well, there's a security company who look after these young men. yes. so there's paid jobs. they're being paid for the tax, millions of pounds. there's to be a of pounds. there's going to be a nurse, i understand nurse, as i understand it, at the barge on the the end of the barge on the quay, living in a hut or something. i'm not quite sure about who's going look about that. who's going to look after concerns after their medical concerns to prevent going into prevent them going off and into the few jobs that we have ? i the few jobs that we have? i don't see that working very well ehhen don't see that working very well either. and that's a very issue , very serious health issues. and the head of our icb who's been had some experience with migrants, say many have serious

mental health issues and tb is a big problem. infections, if that infection sweeps through a boat like that , dorset county will like that, dorset county will not be able to cope with 506 young men. and it's a very important tourist spot to where you are . do you think this is you are. do you think this is going— you are. do you think this is getng te— you are. do you think this is getng te ntt— you are. do you think this is going to hit the— ”ti do you think this is going to hit the tourist trade? tee— going to hit the tourist trade? tee t— going to hit the tourist trade? tee t tntnt— going to hit the tourist trade? yes i think inevitably it's going— yes i think inevitably it's getng te. — yes i think inevitably it's getng te. we- yes i think inevitably it's going to. wbifi: ”ti . .gt going to. we are it's a family seaside resort which relies entirely for its most of its revenue in the summer months to have 500 young men, if they are all out at the same time in weymouth, i can see problems occurring. what's the best case scenario? richard ? what's the scenario? richard? what's the teet— scenario? richard? what's the teet — scenario? richard? what's the best case? let's— scenario? richard? what's the best case? let's just- i tit7 richard? what's the best case? let's just try to use our imagination— best case? let's just try to use our imagination for a moment tnet— our imagination for a moment we tnte— our imagination for a moment that this this— our imagination for a moment that this this works well. what teee— that this this works well. what teee tnet— that this this works well. what does that look— that this this works well. what does that look like for your eemmenttwe— does that look like for your community? i— does that look like for your community? i don't think it will wert— community? i don't think it will wert wett. — community? i don't think it will wert wett. t— community? i don't think it will work well. i mean— community? i don't think it will work well. i mean ,- community? i don't think it will work well. “ work well. i mean, the only way we can deal with this is secure reception centres. and i've told the government repeatedly they must start building them fast because problem is not because this problem is not going to go away. but not in your constituency. - tigtit “rig tigtit but not in your constituency. �*ftt�*ti.. �*7 �*7

your constituency. well, if, if it happens to be if there's an appropriate place. but i'd have thought these centres be thought these centres should be near conurbations where near major conurbations where resources be easily sent to resources can be easily sent to these reception centres and the people inside them looked after properly. see one last question. tetttteettw— properly. see one last question. politically disastrous— 1g. see one last question. politically disastrous local eteetten— politically disastrous local election results for the conservative - election results for the conservative was last week. you tttn-t— conservative was last week. you tttn-t newe— conservative was last week. you tttn-t newe enw— conservative was last week. you didn't have any elections in wew— didn't have any elections in weer—new- didn't have any elections in your_ how muchi didn't have any elections in- your_ how much trouble your patch? no. how much trouble is-conservative_ your patch? no. how much trouble is-conservative party- your patch? no. how much trouble is conservative party the is the conservative party in the gewernment— is the conservative party in the gewernmente — is the conservative party in the government ? government? conservative party must start acting like conservatives that would be a start. well, we've said that on this. yes, that would be a start. i mean, i i'm concerned at the direction of travel. rishi sunak he's a good man. and he works very hard and he's doing a lot of good things. and i support him. but we need to hear a much more conservative language , low taxes, a law and language, low taxes, a law and order. i mean, this this later episode with the demonstrators being arrested and i'm staggered at the coverage it's got. yeah, there are hundreds of thousands of people who enjoyed that

parade and there were no incidents. now, wasn't on the incidents. now, i wasn't on the ground. i'm not a police officer. and i it's very hard to judge, but i'm assuming that they did they thought was a risk and did their job they thought was a risk and did theirjob and prevented rape alarms being chucked into horses, which have horses, which could have stampeded and all rest of stampeded and all the rest of it. it happened, the parade it. as it happened, the parade went and went off faultlessly and everyone came home safe. i would of thought a big tick. of thought that's a big tick. well done. the police right. so more policies from ”rig“. so m0igovernment policies from ”rig“. so m0igovernment . policies from well done. the police right. so m0igovernment. but:ies from well done. the police right. so m0igovernment . but we from well done. the police right. so m0igovernment . but we need much the government. but we need much more . the narrative needs to more. the narrative needs to change and we need to hear a lot more true blue policies. yes, we do. cani more true blue policies. yes, we do. can i just ask you one more geeetten— do. can i just ask you one more geeetten eteet— do. can i just ask you one more question about your— titit can i just ask you one more question about your area in this tertteeter— question about your area in this particular-with— question about your area in this particular-with the- particular issue with the immigration,— particular issue with the- immigration,-stands immigration, whoever stands egetnet— immigration, whoever stands against election, immigration, whoever stands. against—election, are immigration, whoever stands agaiintending election, are immigration, whoever stands agaiintending to election, are immigration, whoever stands agaiintending to standtion, are immigration, whoever stands agaiintending to stand again re immigration, whoever stands agaiintending to stand again in you intending to stand again in wew— you intending to stand again in your constituency? i've been re—adopted right to re—adopted yes, quite right to will stands against will the whoever stands against you, how will they play out this boat being in the harbour , will boat being in the harbour, will they support it or will they have to come out against it? it raises an interesting political teneten— raises an interesting political tension, doesn't— raises an interesting political tension, doesn't it? well you meet— tension, doesn't it? well you meet eet— tension, doesn't it? well you must ask whoever that person is met— must ask whoever that person is met geeetten. — must ask whoever that person is that question. i— must ask whoever that person is that question. i“ . must ask whoever that person is that question. titit“ . that question. i don't pay any attention to the opposition

parties . i'm attention to the opposition parties. i'm afraid i just parties. i'm afraid ijust simply tell my constituents what i believe in and where i'm going. and i hope the message is positive. i don't want to have your on this. i think your backing on this. i think most people, it would seem to me from emails and support from the emails and support we're getting. yes, they are. yeah that's mp for yeah that's richard drax mp for sewn— yeah that's richard drax mp for seetn tereet. — t/tir5t“ that's richard drax mp for south dorset. thanks so much for eemtng— south dorset. thanks so much for eemtnglceme— south dorset. thanks so much for coming-come and— south dorset. thanks so much for coming come and join coming in. come and join us egetn— coming in. come and join us egetn-etner— coming in. come and join usi again -other-now. again some other time now. setu— again some other time now. set te— again some other time now. still to come,— again some other time now. still to come, the— again some other time now. still to come, the first- again some other time now. still to come, the first uk baby with three has with dna from three people has been after new ivf been born after a new ivf procedure. will get some of your thoughts on but first of thoughts on that. but first of all, your morning's news thoughts on that. but first of all, bethanyiur morning's news thoughts on that. but first of all, bethany elseytrning's news thoughts on that. but first of all, bethany elsey .ning's news thoughts on that. but first of all, bethany elsey . good news with bethany elsey. good morning. here's your- good morning. here's your latest neetttnee— morning. here's your latest headlines from _ morning. here's your latest headlines from the gb newsroom at headlines from the gb newsroom et nett— headlines from the gb newsroom et nett teet— headlines from the gb newsroom at half past ten.— headlines from the gb newsroom at half past ten. a— headlines from the gb newsroom at half past ten. a us jury has reent— at half past ten. a us jury has found former— at half past ten. a us jury has found former president donald treme— found former president donald tremt eeteettw— found former president donald trump sexually abused magazine wetter— trump sexually abused magazine wrtter tt— trump sexually abused magazine wrtter tr teen— trump sexually abused magazine writer ei jean carroll in the tttte. — writer ei jean carroll in the tttte. ant— writer ei jean carroll in the 1990s. and then- writer ei jean carroll in the 1990s. and then defamed her by trenttng— 1990s. and then defamed her by trenttng ner— 1990s. and then defamed her by trenttng ner e— 1990s. and then defamed her by branding her a liar. he's been erteret— branding her a liar. he's been erteret te— branding her a liar. he's been erteret te eew— branding her a liar. he's been ordered to pay nearly £4 million in ordered to pay nearly £4 million tn temegee— ordered to pay nearly £4 million tn temegee te— ordered to pay nearly £4 million in damages to the— ordered to pay nearly £4 million in damages to the columnist. mr treme— in damages to the columnist. mr tremt wttt— in damages to the columnist. mr tremt wttt net— in damages to the columnist. mr trump will not face— in damages to the columnist. mr trump will not face a prison sentence as the _ trump will not face a prison

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channel. britain is watching . channel. britain is watching. rte— channel. britain is watching. rte rest.— channel. britain is watching. it's 1038. this— channel. britain is watching. it's 1038. this is— channel. britain is watching. it's 1038. this is the- channel. britain is watching. it's 1038. this is the point on gb it's1038. this is the point on gb news with andrew pierce and bev turner. your views are pounng bev turner. your views are pouring in and you are very, very pleased with the government's of letting government's idea of letting people go straight from a—levels into training to be doctors and nurses . so caroline says nurses. so caroline says excellent . the idea of having excellent. the idea of having a huge debt after degree degree course off so young course puts off so many young people profession. course puts off so many young pdon't profession. course puts off so many young pdon't see profession. course puts off so many young pdon't see why profession. course puts off so many young pdon't see why havingtfession. course puts off so many young pdon't see why having atssion. course puts off so many young pdon't see why having a degree i don't see why having a degree lessens of nurses lessens the wages of nurses because it's an essential job. we need nurses and we absolutely need nurses and many common idea many of them common sense idea about time. that's right. and jacqui— about time. that's right. and reeget nee— about time. that's right. and jacqui has said,— about time. that's right. and jacqui has said, i— . that's right. and jacqui has said, i trained as wet— jacqui has said, i trained as wnet-en— jacqui has said, i trained as wnet-en ett— jacqui has said, i trained as what-an sr ?- jacqui has said, i trained as what an sr ? what's that? what was an sr? what's that? a eteetettet— what was an sr? what's that? a specialist registrar, nurse, mewte— specialist registrar, nurse, mewte etete— specialist registrar, nurse, maybe state registered nurse. stere— maybe state registered nurse. state registered— maybe state registered nurse. state registered nurse. thank wee.— state registered nurse. thank wee. tetween— state registered nurse. thank you. between 1974 to 77, a three weer— you. between 1974 to 77, a three weer tretntng— you. between 1974 to 77, a three year training consisting of

etetw— year training consisting of study blocks,— year training consisting of study blocks, six week placements - study blocks, six week placements ,- study blocks, six week placements , psychiatry, 12 weeks placements, psychiatry, 12 weeks meternttw— placements, psychiatry, 12 weeks meternttw. rt— placements, psychiatry, 12 weeks maternity, 12 weeks at a book tnet— maternity, 12 weeks at a book we tnet-e— maternity, 12 weeks at a book that that's be _ maternity, 12 weeks at a book that that's be signed off by senior staff— that that's be signed off by senior staff to _ that that's be signed off by senior staff to prove i'd successfully— senior staff to prove i'd successfully taken part kyiv eenetn— successfully taken part kyiv certain procedures, genuinely certain procedures, i genuinely ten-t— certain procedures, i genuinely tent-eemt— certain procedures, i genuinely ten-t-tetnt tn- certain procedures, i genuinely don't-point in a- certain procedures, i genuinely don't point in a degree. don't see the point in a degree. tnent— don't see the point in a degree. tnent yout— don't see the point in a degree. thank you, jacqui. t/tir5t“ don't see the point in a degree. thank you, jacqui. / 5t“ti thank you, jacqui. yeah, and tnte— thank you, jacqui. yeah, and this and this. a lot of people also in about also getting in touch about donald mail trump donald trump. mail says trump has fined calling his has been fined for calling his accuser a liar. accused him accuser a liar. she accused him of rape . the jury trump of rape. the jury found trump did rape her. is that not did not rape her. is that not her telling lies? 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we said we haven't covered yet? we said we—tett- we haven't covered yet? we said we—tett eteet- we haven't covered yet? we said we _talk about it.| we were going to talk about it. tne— we were going to talk about it. rte-tetw— we were going to talk about it. the-baby patrick- we were going to talk about it. the baby patrick born the first uk baby patrick born wttn— the first uk baby patrick born wttn twa— the first uk baby patrick born with dna from _ the first uk baby patrick born with dna from three people after

new with dna from three people after wr— with dna from three people after new ivf procedure.— with dna from three people after new ivf procedure. good news. yest— new ivf procedure. good news. tee. tt— new ivf procedure. good news. tee. re re. — new ivf procedure. good news. tee. re te. r— new ivf procedure. good news. yes, it is. i heard— new ivf procedure. good news. yes, it is. i heard it— new ivf procedure. good news. yes, it is. i heard it this- yes, it is. i heard it this morning and i was quite sceptical because i tend to be quite socially conservative on kind of frank achinstein science stuff. aslef kind of frank achinstein science stuff . aslef and i. kind of frank achinstein science stuff. aslef and i. i kind of frank achinstein science stuff . aslef and i. i wondered stuff. aslef and i. i wondered whether this idea of three parents and extra dna going in could be used for sort of designer baby purposes. but in fact the story which is on the front of the guardian in 1 or 2 other places today is that a technique has happened where a very small percentage of dna and genetic material known as mitosis sondreal, which is outside the nucleus, mainly of whatever we're talking about, every cell carries sort of risk of mutation and disease and babies get all their mitochondria from the mother's side and not the father's side. so just by putting a small amount of a donor woman's dna into the mix, you don't

compromise the inherited characteristics of a child from the two parents, but you do protect it. the babies of many women from developing severe disease as their their childhood goes on. so it's a remarkable story. it's great news. and it should spare, you know, perhaps thousands of babies and young children from severe disease. so great would the child have to be so great would the child have to te tett— so great would the child have to te tett. te— so great would the child have to te tett. te wee— so great would the child have to be told, do you think, emma, tnet— be told, do you think, emma, me were— be told, do you think, emma, that there was— be told, do you think, emma, that there was three, not two? were — that there was three, not two? were wee — that there was three, not two? well, you should— that there was three, not two? well, you should think- that there was three, not two? well, you should think so.- that there was three, not two? well, you should think so. i mean, i if i'm being honest, this gives me the creeps . i this gives me the creeps. i think it's playing god . i think it's playing god. i there's a, i'm sure a good reason why all human beings have two parents and don't have the dna of three people. naturally i do think this is playing god . i do think this is playing god. i understand where patrick is coming from that obviously nobody wants children to be born with diseases . nobody wants children to be born with diseases. things like muscular dystrophy and that kind of thing . but i feel like this of thing. but i feel like this is this is editing genes and whether the intention in this

particular case is to limit it just to making sure that children are not born with disabilities , the precedent that disabilities, the precedent that sets it is one of editing genes. it is one of designer babies. even if it's for the health of the child, it is still a designer baby. and it strikes me as unethical and a bit wrong . as unethical and a bit wrong. erg yeah, is it? where has it nettentngt— erg yeah, is it? where has it nettentnge te— erg yeah, is it? where has it happening? is it— erg yeah, is it? where has it happening? is it happening? i teee— happening? is it happening? i teee tte— happening? is it happening? i presume it's in— happening? is it happening? i presume it's in the uk. it's in tne— presume it's in the uk. it's in me wt.— presume it's in the uk. it's in me wt. wee. — presume it's in the uk. it's in the uk, yes. there- presume it's in the uk. it's in the uk, yes. “ti”ti the uk, yes. there was, i think, a freedom of information an answer. there's up to five such children have been born, so i'm not sure we know precisely arnie where, but i think it's a bit unfair of emma and a bit misleading. this idea of three parents because . 99.8% of the parents because. 99.8% of the dna is from the father and the main mother. it's only this tiny amount of very protective mitochondrial material that that's gone in. so it's not like a third, a third, a third. right. hello, daddy. hello

mummy. hello other mummy. it's a it's a protective thing. so i don't really agree that every child should, you know, should be told they have a second mother. but but what if, what if the mother. but but what if, what if tne tntrt— mother. but but what if, what if the third person— mother. but but what if, what if the third person in— mother. but but what if, what if the third person in this- the third person in this egeetten— the third person in this equation wants to have access to the equation wants to have access to me entttt— equation wants to have access to me entrtt tnew— equation wants to have access to the child? they they're allowed ent— the child? they they're allowed ent tnew.— the child? they they're allowed aren't they. because they create nettet — aren't they. because they create nettet ereete— aren't they. because they create helped create it.— aren't they. because they create helped create it. see, this is tne— helped create it. see, this is the himars. _ helped create it. see, this is the himars. it's- helped create it. see, this is the himars. . i“r5t“ the himars. it's a human fertilisation and embryology association. they normally have very strict rules on these sorts of things. apparently they've given the green light to 30 cases so far , which will prevent cases so far, which will prevent babies being born with otherwise incurable genetic diseases . babies being born with otherwise incurable genetic diseases. i'm, you know, i'm like you, patrick. my you know, i'm like you, patrick. my initial instinct with these things is we have to be incredibly careful if we start to around with human dna , we to around with human dna, we have to be very careful as to where it leads. but i think , where it leads. but i think, emma, i think if you're if you want to have a child and, you know, you have a genetic abnormality and you have any

possibility of saving that child from a life of pain, a short and life, you would go, no, i understand that. and i and i'm etwteeetw— understand that. and i and i'm etwteeetw net— understand that. and i and i'm obviously not intending- .. ii and i and i'm obviously not intending to meet— obviously not intending to mislead because patrick had erreetw— mislead because patrick had already explained the already explained how the mitochondrial— already explained how the mitochondrial dna is a small part— mitochondrial dna is a small ten et— mitochondrial dna is a small ten et rt.— mitochondrial dna is a small pert et tt. tet— mitochondrial dna is a small part of it. but i— mitochondrial dna is a small part of it. but i do think that tnte— part of it. but i do think that we re— part of it. but i do think that this is unprecedented and in its etnteet— this is unprecedented and in its ethical complexity and as a eeetetw— ethical complexity and as a eeetetw .— ethical complexity and as a eeetetw . we— ethical complexity and as a society , we haven't had society, we haven't had a conversation _ society, we haven't had a conversation about this . there conversation about this. there nee— conversation about this. there nee teen— conversation about this. there nee teen ne— conversation about this. there has been no public discussion of tnte— has been no public discussion of tnte. tte— has been no public discussion of tnte. tt-e negetw— has been no public discussion of this. it's hugely ethically complicated— this. it's hugely ethically complicated .— this. it's hugely ethically complicated . even just now in complicated. even just now in tnte— complicated. even just now in we trtet— complicated. even just now in this brief conversation , we've this brief conversation, we've reteet— this brief conversation, we've reteet err— this brief conversation, we've raised all sorts— this brief conversation, we've raised all sorts of— this brief conversation, we've raised all sorts of issues eerreenttng— raised all sorts of issues surrounding access to the child, wnetner— surrounding access to the child, wnetner tnet— surrounding access to the child, whether that person should be tettnet— whether that person should be tettnet ee— whether that person should be tettnet ee e— whether that person should be defined as a parent. also, if you— defined as a parent. also, if wee teee— defined as a parent. also, if wee teer tn— defined as a parent. also, if you bear in mind- defined as a parent. also, if you bear in mind that the dna trem— you bear in mind that the dna teem-tntrt— you bear in mind that the dna from .third-is- from that third person is responsible— from that third person is responsible for that child's ettettng— responsible for that child's existing aukus is responsible for existing aukus is responsible ter tnet— existing aukus is responsible for that child's— existing aukus is responsible for that child's health. there ert— for that child's health. there are all sorts— for that child's health. there are all sorts of— for that child's health. there are all sorts of ethical considerations around this that, considerations aroude this that, you considerations around this that, wee tnew— considerations around this that, wee tnew .— considerations around this that, wee tnew . we— considerations around this that, you know , we, having only you know, we, having only trtetrw— you know, we, having only briefly thought— you know, we, having only briefly thought about this and not briefly thought about this and net tetng— briefly thought about this and not being ethicists, are not eetetre— not being ethicists, are not eeeetre et— not being ethicists, are not capable of drawing all those tntnge— capable of drawing all those tntnge eet— capable of drawing all those things out right— capable of drawing all those things out right now. but that's eemetntng— things out right now. but that's something that— things out right now. but that's something that we should have a tettte— something that we should have a public conversation— something that we should have a public conversation about as a eeetetw.—

public conversation about as a society, something that we society, not something that we meet— society, not something that we eneert teet— society, not something that we eneert teet te— society, not something that we should just be running headlong into should just be running headlong twe-tt— should just be running headlong tnte-tt-rtgnt- should just be running headlong tnte-tt-rtgnt .- into because it feels right, teeeeee— into because it feels right, teeeeee et— into because it feels right, because of course we sympathise ent— because of course we sympathise ent we— because of course we sympathise ent we te— because of course we sympathise ent we te went— because of course we sympathise and we do want children to be neettnw. — and we do want children to be neettnw. ant— and we do want children to be healthy. “ti 5 and we do want children to be healthy. “ti , and we do want children to be healthy. ' “ti 5 ” healthy. and patrick, with your political hat on, this is going to raised in parliament, to get raised in parliament, isn't would thought isn't it? i would have thought so isn't it? i would have thought ee . tt— isn't it? i would have thought so . i'd-thought- isn't it? i would have thought so . i'd thought there would so. i'd have thought there would be of people who oppose be a number of people who oppose it. want to and it. yeah. and will want to and will to how how was will want to say how how was this allowed to happen? in this allowed to happen? yes. in fact, instance, fact, i'd be, for instance, interested hear what your interested to hear what your fellow jacob fellow presenter jacob rees—mogg's view as a high catholic catholic might be about it. and the thing about it, i eetteee.— it. and the thing about it, i eetteee. te— it. and the thing about it, i suppose, is that— . and the thing about it, i suppose, is that emma's point tnet— suppose, is that emma's point me te— suppose, is that emma's point that it's kind— suppose, is that emma's point that it's kind of— suppose, is that emma's point that it's kind of come out of a tree— that it's kind of come out of a ttee etw— that it's kind of come out of a ttee etw nee— that it's kind of come out of a blue sky has having been authorised— blue sky has having been authorised kind of in secret by authorised kind of in secret by e geenge— authorised kind of in secret by e geenge . — authorised kind of in secret by e geenge . se— authorised kind of in secret by a quango . ”ri �*7 a quango. so we're the first country in the world to authorise. yeah. i just would assume it must have gone through careful consideration at a ministerial level. but you can't take ministerial level. but you can't tete tnet— ministerial level. but you can't tete tnet ter— ministerial level. but you can't take that for granted. - “ but you can't take that for granted. \rtit ti take that for granted. no, i'd be eertrteet — take that for granted. no, i'd be surprised because i think it would have come out. it would. politicians are involved. patrick. it always leaks . and patrick. it always leaks. and why shouldn't we be told about

it? and i don't think we should only have come out under freedom of information. don't think of information. i don't think that be naively that we should be naively confused point about the ethical qualification actions of ministers. you know, we eneettn-t— ministers. you know, we shouldn't be.— “ you know, we shouldn't be. we've seen even trem— shouldn't be. we've seen even trem reeent— shouldn't be. we've seen even from recent experience , the from recent experience, the etnteet— from recent experience, the ethical considerations often ten-t— ethical considerations often ten-t get— ethical considerations often don't get enough attention in terttement— don't get enough attention in parliament or— don't get enough attention in parliament or in— don't get enough attention in parliament or in politics. you tnew— parliament or in politics. you tnew .— parliament or in politics. you know , ethicists— parliament or in politics. you know , ethicists have solid know, ethicists have solid educations— know, ethicists have solid educations to _ know, ethicists have solid educations to allow them to wetgn— educations to allow them to wetgn tneee— educations to allow them to weigh these matters up . and weigh these matters up. and trenttw— weigh these matters up. and trenttw. t— weigh these matters up. and frankly, i don't— weigh these matters up. and frankly, i don't think that it's teeettte— frankly, i don't think that it's possible that— frankly, i don't think that it's possible that this could have reeetwet— possible that this could have received the _ possible that this could have received the attention that it teeerwee— received the attention that it deserves, given _ received the attention that it deserves, given how hugely eemttet— deserves, given how hugely eemtret tt— deserves, given how hugely complex it is— deserves, given how hugely complex it is .— deserves, given how hugely complex it is . and i actually complex it is. and i actually tntnt— complex it is. and i actually tntnt tnet— complex it is. and i actually think that this— complex it is. and i actually think that this story should be meen— think that this story should be much more controversial than it is much more controversial than it te ent— much more controversial than it te ent tnen— much more controversial than it te ent tnen tt— much more controversial than it is and than it seems to be. i tntnt— is and than it seems to be. i tntnt tt— is and than it seems to be. i think it might— is and than it seems to be. i think it might gather momentum, actually, and particularly arnie when there are pharmaceutical companies the background who companies in the background who are to make money out of are set to make money out of these sorts of procedures, then we have to tread in incredibly carefully and have our wits about does seem about us. it does seem extraordinary. this is unprecedented with any country in where it's in the world where it's happened, didn't know happened, and we didn't know anything about it. yeah, right. well, is and

well, just my instinct is and i egree— well, just my instinct is and i egree .— well, just my instinct is and i egree . rm— well, just my instinct is and i egree . m net— well, just my instinct is and i agree , i'm not a— well, just my instinct is and i agree , i'm not a qualified agree, i'm not a qualified etttetet— agree, i'm not a qualified ethicist, but— agree, i'm not a qualified ethicist, but it— agree, i'm not a qualified ethicist, but it sounds to me we— ethicist, but it sounds to me rtte tne— ethicist, but it sounds to me like the potential for good and for like the potential for good and ter eteee— like the potential for good and for spare sharing— like the potential for good and for spare sharing of misery and tremetwe— for spare sharing of misery and premature death— for spare sharing of misery and premature death enormously eetwetgne— premature death enormously outweighs the— premature death enormously outweighs the potential downsides. _ outweighs the potential downsides. and personally, i ten-t— downsides. and personally, i ten-t regert— downsides. and personally, i don't regard someone who's contributed— don't regard someone who's contributed 0.2% of dna, not tnerettng— contributed 0.2% of dna, not including the— contributed 0.2% of dna, not including the main heritable nette— including the main heritable trette ee— including the main heritable trette ee e— including the main heritable traits as a parent, but maybe tnet— traits as a parent, but maybe that percentage— traits as a parent, but maybe that percentage goes up some. rm— that percentage goes up some. t-m eree— that percentage goes up some. t-m etee net— that percentage goes up some. i'm also not sure— that percentage goes up some. i'm also not sure we're- that percentage goes up some. i'm also not sure we're fully appraised of the downsides. i think also it's about precedent , isn't it? it's about once you tneee— , isn't it? it's about once you cross these sorts— , isn't it? it's about once you cross these sorts of- . .7 it's about once you cross these sorts of ethical metteer— cross these sorts of ethical medical rubicon . well, don't go medical rubicon. well, don't go teet— medical rubicon. well, don't go teet ent— medical rubicon. well, don't go back and that's— medical rubicon. well, don't go back and that's where i think we eeetetw— back and that's where i think we eretetrw neet— back and that's where i think we probably need to. _ back and that's where i think we probably need to. well, we're tteeeeetng— probably need to. well, we're discussing it— probably need to. well, we're discussing it here, which is geet— discussing it here, which is geet et— discussing it here, which is good at least.— discussing it here, which is good at least. yeah, right. emme— good at least. yeah, right. emma, school— good at least. yeah, right. emma, school leavers. i think ett— emma, school leavers. i think we're all viewing— emma, school leavers. i think we're all viewing this at the mement — we're all viewing this at the moment. this— we're all viewing this at the moment. this is— we're all viewing this at the moment. this is a good news metteet— moment. this is a good news metteer eterw— moment. this is a good news medical story. school leavers moment. this is a good news mecstartstory. school leavers moment. this is a good news mecstartstory. schoo doctorss can start working as doctors wttneet— can start working as doctors without university. without going to university. ttnettw— without going to university. ttnerrw. e— without going to university. finally, a brilliant- without going to university. finally, a brilliant idea- without going to university. finally, a brilliant idea has fallen us and it's a single fallen upon us and it's a single column on the front page of the telegraph. i think not hugely important, but important, not just doctors, but also always also nurses. i've always thought that strange nurses

that it was strange that nurses should require a degree. they never exactly. and never used to. exactly. and i think that i just think this is a brilliant idea. and generally i think that too many things now require people to have degrees, like being a police officer. i think as a society we would be wise to move and it's a very conservative position. i should add, move towards an add, to move towards an apprenticeship model. yeah for as many careers as possible in society because university used to be for purely academic subjects. and i think that that is the proper purpose of a university. so the more that we can move to an apprenticeship model in all of these areas, it's better for society dodi it. i think in many ways provides a much better education because it gives you the practical rather than just the technical skills. you technical you just have technical understanding you apply understanding and then you apply them. from somebody them. you learn it from somebody who's, who's who's already mastered the skill of that trade. and also , i think it's trade. and also, i think it's better for younger people to go straight into a into straight from school into a into a trade, into a career . so it a trade, into a career. so it will help them to mature faster

and it will probably be good for all sorts of aspects of society, including people being able to settle down and have kids earlier to be saddled with huge debt. exactly earlier to be saddled with huge debt . exactly what so many kids debt. exactly what so many kids get new— debt. exactly what so many kids get wnen— debt. exactly what so many kids get now when they're— i exactly what so many kids get now when they're £10,000 a wear.— get now when they're £10,000 a weee tt— get now when they're £10,000 a weee tt eeete— get now when they're £10,000 a year, it costs to— get now when they're £10,000 a year, it costs to do— get now when they're £10,000 a year, it costs to do a medical tegree— year, it costs to do a medical tegree ent— year, it costs to do a medical degree and the— year, it costs to do a medical degree and the starting salary is degree and the starting salary te tttttt— degree and the starting salary te tttttt e— degree and the starting salary is £29,000 a year. so these students will be learning on the job and they will be earning while they do it. the only thing is, if they're all living at home, going be lot home, there's going to be a lot of parents who are quite looking forward getting rid of those forward to getting rid of those teenagers for few years. teenagers for a few years. patrick to teenagers for a few years. patri(them to teenagers for a few years. patri(them at to teenagers for a few years. patri(them at home. to teenagers for a few years. patri(them at home. well, to teenagers for a few years. patri(them at home. well, i to teenagers for a few years. patri(them at home. well, i think have them at home. well, i think that's perhaps the only decent vantage anyone has yet. i'll be earning they can move out earning money. they can move out where can pay some rent, where they can pay some rent, too. that's true. and de too. that's true. and sort of de greteetee—greetl graduates izing erg is a great ttee.— graduates izing erg is a great ttee. ant— graduates izing erg is a great ttee. ant r— graduates izing erg is a great idea. and 1 think— graduates izing erg is a great idea. and i think that the gewernment— idea. and i think that the government finally has reversed this government finally has reversed tnte teeteten— government finally has reversed this decision-all— government finally has reversed this decision all police this decision that all police ettteere— this decision that all police officers have— this decision that all police officers have graduates. officers have to be graduates. i gette— officers have to be graduates. i was quite happy— officers have to be graduates. i was quite happy to hear one of the was quite happy to hear one of me trttten— was quite happy to hear one of the british medical association tete— the british medical association bods harrumphing about this on the bods harrumphing about this on me retre— bods harrumphing about this on the radio because— bods harrumphing about this on the radio because their monopoly has the radio because their monopoly nee teen— the radio because their monopoly has been broken.— the radio because their monopoly has been broken. and, you know,

i'm has been broken. and, you know, t-m ereett— has been broken. and, you know, t-m etrett tn— has been broken. and, you know, i'm afraid in many— has been broken. and, you know, i'm afraid in many cases these tewe— i'm afraid in many cases these tewe weeng— i'm afraid in many cases these days young people seem to go to entwerettw— days young people seem to go to entwerettw te — days young people seem to go to university to learn— days young people seem to go to university to learn to hate ewerwtntng— university to learn to hate everything their parents stand for everything their parents stand ter ent— everything their parents stand for and become— everything their parents stand for and become full time social teettee— for and become full time social justice warriors— for and become full time social justice warriors and ultra ultra wete— justice warriors and ultra ultra wete ent— justice warriors and ultra ultra wete ent r— justice warriors and ultra ultra woke and i think— justice warriors and ultra ultra woke and i think you detected a bit woke and i think you detected a ttt et— woke and i think you detected a ttt et tnet— woke and i think you detected a bit of that around— woke and i think you detected a bit of that around some of the renter— bit of that around some of the junior doctors— bit of that around some of the junior doctors ,— bit of that around some of the junior doctors , advocates and junior doctors, advocates and representatives— junior doctors, advocates and representatives that actually tnew— representatives that actually tnewwee— representatives that actually they were almost like the new seergttt— they were almost like the new scargill lights— they were almost like the new scargill lights out for an ideological— scargill lights out for an ideological battle with the gewemrnent — ideological battle with the government. so more common government. so more common government. so more common sense, more immersion of bright teenegere— sense, more immersion of bright teenegere tnte— sense, more immersion of bright teenagers into just— sense, more immersion of bright teenagers into just normal eeetetw— teenagers into just normal society couldn't be better. /tit. society couldn't be better. you tnew.— society couldn't be better. you tnew. tn— society couldn't be better. you tnew. tn tne— society couldn't be better. you know, in the 705— society couldn't be better. you know, in the 705 it— society couldn't be better. you know, in the 705 it was- society couldn't be better. you know, in the 70s it was a noble thing to leave school and do an apprenticeship . that's what so apprenticeship. that's what so many people did not. there wasn't this great clamour to go to university . and let's be to university. and let's be honest, blair made this so much worse by having that target that all kids, all school leavers , all kids, all school leavers, more than 50, had to go to university. ridiculous yeah. i think as well if we- university. ridiculous yeah. i think as well if we if- .“ .gt ?ti 5 yeah. i think as well if we if we .“ .gt 3ti 5 yeah. i think as well if we if we as a eeetetw— think as well if we if we as a society recognise— think as well if we if we as a society recognise that these apprenticeships— society recognise that these apprenticeships are are, you tnew.— apprenticeships are are, you tnew. tte— apprenticeships are are, you know, it's going— apprenticeships are are, you know, it's going to be one 1 in

10 know, it's going to be one 1 in to metteet— know, it's going to be one 1 in 10 medical students will be able to 10 medical students will be able te te— 10 medical students will be able te te. ge— 10 medical students will be able te te. ge tnreegn— 10 medical students will be able to to, go through this process. i to to, go through this process. t tntnt— to to, go through this process. t tntnt tt— to to, go through this process. t tntnt t we— to to, go through this process. i think if we recognise that tnte— i think if we recognise that we re— i think if we recognise that this is almost— i think if we recognise that this is almost a— i think if we recognise that this is almost a sort of not neeeeeertrw— this is almost a sort of not necessarily a— this is almost a sort of not necessarily a higher calibre tnen— necessarily a higher calibre tnen getng— necessarily a higher calibre than going into— necessarily a higher calibre than going into to do a degree , than going into to do a degree, a than going into to do a degree, e metteer— than going into to do a degree, a medical degree— than going into to do a degree, a medical degree in the traditional— a medical degree in the traditional way. but the fact tnet— traditional way. but the fact me te— traditional way. but the fact me we ee— traditional way. but the fact that it's so selective and to remtnt— that it's so selective and to remtnt eeerte— that it's so selective and to remind people of course that it we— remind people of course that it we newe— remind people of course that it will have all— remind people of course that it will have all the— remind people of course that it will have all the same requirements- will have all the same requirements as the british ttetteet— requirements as the british medical council requires of metteet— medical council requires of medical students who go through entwerettw— medical students who go through entwerettw ter— medical students who go through university for those people who do apprenticeship— university for those people who do apprenticeship , it's to be do apprenticeship, it's to be reeegnteet— do apprenticeship, it's to be recognised on— do apprenticeship, it's to be recognised on the same level as tneee— recognised on the same level as tneee-newe— recognised on the same level as those-have gone— recognised on the same level as those have gone through the those who have gone through the trettttenet— those who have gone through the trettttnet— those who have gone through the tretttt weert— those who have gone through the tradi it would be _ those who have gone through the tradiit would be an— those who have gone through the tradiit would be an extremely that it would be an extremely ettreettwe— that it would be an extremely attractive prospect and i think it attractive prospect and i think tt weett— attractive prospect and i think it would actually— attractive prospect and i think it would actually just be better for it would actually just be better ter tne— it would actually just be better ter tne eeet— it would actually just be better for the soul of— it would actually just be better for the soul of society. yeah, i ereeg — for the soul of society. yeah, i ereeg reet— for the soul of society. yeah, i agree. just briefly,- for the soul of society. yeah, i agree. just briefly, we've not got that long, but i want to hear both about hear what you both think about donald found guilty donald trump being found guilty of offences, not rape, of sexual offences, not rape, rape , having to pay $5 million rape, having to pay $5 million for this woman. what do you make of it, patrick? well, i think it just underlines donald trump's sort of obnoxious conduct and personal motty. but on the other tent.— personal motty. but on the other nent. tne— personal motty. but on the other hand, the fundamental- but on the other hand, the fundamental battles tnet— hand, the fundamental battles tnet wtrr— hand, the fundamental battles that will determine the next

ereettenttet— that will determine the next presidential election might be tntnge— presidential election might be tntnge ttte— presidential election might be things like who's best to get tne— things like who's best to get me eeenemw— things like who's best to get the economy going , who's best at the economy going, who's best at teeter— the economy going, who's best at border control— the economy going, who's best at border control role, _ the economy going, who's best at border control role, who's best at border control role, who's best et etetetng— border control role, who's best et eteeetng wnet— border control role, who's best at stopping what they know as teretgn— at stopping what they know as teretgn were— at stopping what they know as foreign wars, and— at stopping what they know as foreign wars, and on the fundamentals- foreign wars, and on the fundamentals , it may be that fundamentals, it may be that treme— fundamentals, it may be that tremt ettrr— fundamentals, it may be that trump still beats biden and egeettw— trump still beats biden and egeerrw tne— trump still beats biden and equally the trump diehards. i tntnt— equally the trump diehards. i tntnt tert— equally the trump diehards. i tntnt ten et— equally the trump diehards. i think part of the— equally the trump diehards. i think part of the appeal of treme— think part of the appeal of tremt te— think part of the appeal of tremt te tne— think part of the appeal of trump is the idea that he gets enter— trump is the idea that he gets enter tne— trump is the idea that he gets under the skin— trump is the idea that he gets under the skin of— trump is the idea that he gets under the skin of the establishment. so it might not do establishment. so it might not te ntm— establishment. so it might not te ntm gette— establishment. so it might not do him quite as— establishment. so it might not do him quite as much damage as it do him quite as much damage as tt eeetetw— do him quite as much damage as it probably deserves to. what do you it probably deserves to. what do wee tntnt— it probably deserves to. what do you think, emma? _ it probably deserves to. what do you think, emma? ti ti i you think, emma? he's. he's made of teflon, isn't he? he certainly bounce off. i some of the accusations that have been raised off the back of this reminding people of the sorts of things that donald trump has said past. didn't said in the past. they didn't affect think it's affect him before. i think it's very unlikely this is going very unlikely that this is going to his , you know, run for to affect his, you know, run for president. i've said it before and i'll say it a thousand times more. i'm sure i would love it if ron desantis were the next president the united states. if ron desantis were the next prehim.it the united states. if ron desantis were the next prehim. not the united states. if ron desantis were the next prehim. not upt united states. if ron desantis were the next pre him. not up to nited states. if ron desantis were the next pre him. not up to nitecistates. if ron desantis were the next prehim. not up to niteci think. if ron desantis were the next prehim. not up to niteci think he to him. not up to me. i think he is however i don't is wonderful. however i don't think that this is really

particularly going to damage donald trump. and i was actually quite confused by this case because, of course, it was it was a libel case. and she had said that she'd been raped. the court then found . did she agree court then found. did she agree with it? the court found that she she hadn't, but he still lost libel case. so it's lost the libel case. so it's cunous lost the libel case. so it's curious to me. yeah it took a long time for a journalist because we are quite capable of speaking up for ourselves. why did it take us so long to- did it take us so long to bring tnte— did it take us so long to bring tnte-werr— did it take us so long to bring this-well-validl this out? well that's a valid concern,-also- this out? well that's a valid concern, also should be concern, but it also should be eett— concern, but it also should be eett ttee— concern, but it also should be eett tnet. wee— concern, but it also should be said that, you know, as a civil tne— said that, you know, as a civil case, the standard— said that, you know, as a civil case, the standard of on case, the standard of proof on all case, the standard of proof on err-e— case, the standard of proof on err-e tet— case, the standard of proof on all-a lot lower. - case, the standard of proof on all-a lot lower. sol all fronts is a lot lower. so wntre— all fronts is a lot lower. so wntre tne— all fronts is a lot lower. so wntre tne jury— all fronts is a lot lower. so while the jury wasn't convinced that she had been raped by no means labelled her a perjurer or anything like that , and, you anything like that, and, you know, we'll see how hard trump appeals or whether this this bluster we hear today is just, again, for the benefit of his diehard supporters. um, but yeah, it's why america is such a split society right now. i think there still is a path for donald

trump to stand and win again. you're right. okay. patrick t-ttwnn— you're right. okay. patrick o'flynn, emma- you're right. okay. patrick o'flynn, emma webb, thank you for o'flynn, emma webb, thank you ter new— o'flynn, emma webb, thank you ter .— o'flynn, emma webb, thank you ter . tn— o'flynn, emma webb, thank you for now . in the— o'flynn, emma webb, thank you for now . in the next few for now. in the next few moments, we're going to be neertng— moments, we're going to be neertng trem — moments, we're going to be hearing from reclaim um hearing from the reclaim um party— hearing from the reclaim um tertw wnere— hearing from the reclaim um party where reports suggest that antrew— party where reports suggest that antrew-tttt— party where reports suggest that andrew-mp could- party where reports suggest that andrew mp could announce andrew bridgen mp could announce that andrew bridgen mp could announce met me— andrew bridgen mp could announce that he's defecting_ andrew bridgen mp could announce that he's defecting from the conservatives. _ that he's defecting from the conservatives. do not want conservatives. you do not want to conservatives. you do not want te emee— conservatives. you do not want te met.— conservatives. you do not want to miss that. this— conservatives. you do not want to miss that. this is gb news nette— to miss that. this is gb news us. hello. welcome to your reteet— us. hello. welcome to your teteet et— us. hello. welcome to your latest gb news— us. hello. welcome to your latest gb news weather update . latest gb news weather update. wren— latest gb news weather update. wttn me— latest gb news weather update. wttn annte— latest gb news weather update. with me, annie shuttleworth from the met office. we'll see more heavy showers across the uk throughout this afternoon, but we'll warm in any we'll feel pretty warm in any sunshine. but it's still going to be quite an unsettled day and that's because we've got low pressure charge the next pressure in charge for the next couple of days at least. but as we head into the weekend, we will start to see things settle down. area low down. but the area of low pressure building pressure is building showers through afternoon, through the afternoon, particularly northern particularly across northern areas, across western parts of scotland northern scotland and northern ireland. but also see some quite but we'll also see some quite slow moving showers across northern and eastern areas of england, too. showers will move a little move through a little quicker across the south—west. so here we'll see the best of any sunshine and in the sunshine

it quite warm , it will feel quite warm, particularly southern particularly across southern areas. up to about 19 areas. highs of up to about 19 degrees through this evening. showers will linger across the east, particularly east anglia could see some quite long lasting showers into this evening. we'll see more evening. and we'll see more persistent rain arrive into northern ireland and western scotland. but for many it will settle down, leaving a relatively dry night. some mist and fog around and temperatures around average for the time of year. overnight, by around average for the time of year . overnight, by the around average for the time of year. overnight, by the time we get to thursday morning. so thursday morning will start off a little drier though we could see lingering around see some cloud lingering around and drizzly rain across any and some drizzly rain across any high ground and some coastal areas . but high ground and some coastal areas. but once the sun high ground and some coastal areas . but once the sun gets areas. but once the sun gets going into the afternoon, we'll see bubble up once see showers, bubble up once again. now, notice across the east in particular is where we're going showers we're going to see those showers developing the afternoon. developing into the afternoon. and they could last a and they could last quite a while. there's a risk of thunder and hail in there, but and hail in there, too. but again, any sunshine, will again, in any sunshine, it will feel for the feel relatively warm for the time of year. then through thursday evening, once again, we'll see showers continue, but this across more western

this time across more western areas into parts of south wales and into southern counties will then start to see this low cloud from the north sea encroach into eastern areas. but across the west , as we eastern areas. but across the west, as we look ahead to the weekend, it will turn drier and brighter . weekend, it will turn drier and brighter. i'll see you later

it's 11 am. on wednesday, the 10th of - it's 11 am. on wednesday, the tort et wew— - it's 11 am. on wednesday, the tort et ttew. tnte— . it's 11 am. on wednesday, the 10th of may. this is— . it's 11 am. on wednesday, the 10th of may. this is to— . it's 11 am. on wednesday, the 10th of may. this is to the- 10th of may. this is to the rent— 10th of may. this is to the tetntlet— 10th of may. this is to the point-gb news- 10th of may. this is to the point gb news with me andrew point on gb news with me andrew tteree— point on gb news with me andrew pierce -turner. - point on gb news with me andrew pierce -turner. so- point on gb news with me andrew pierce turner. pierce and bev turner. so former treettent— pierce and bev turner. so former president trump sexually president donald trump sexually assaulted a this is the assaulted a writer. this is the finding jury in a civil finding of a jury in a civil case. he says he's even case. he says he's never even met. carroll and calls it met. e jean carroll and calls it a witch hunt. do you agree ? and a witch hunt. do you agree? and the home secretary suella- the home secretary suella braverman is— the home secretary suella braverman is in- the home secretary suella braverman is in warfare with the neeee— braverman is in warfare with the neeee et— braverman is in warfare with the house of lords,— braverman is in warfare with the house of lords, which is trying to house of lords, which is trying te tteet— house of lords, which is trying te treet ner— house of lords, which is trying to block her illegal migration ttrr. — to block her illegal migration ttrr. tne— to block her illegal migration bill. the opposition will be led by bill. the opposition will be led tw-arenttenet— bill. the opposition will be led by-archbishop of- bill. the opposition will be led by archbishop of canterbury, by the archbishop of canterbury, reettn— by the archbishop of canterbury, reettn wettw— by the archbishop of canterbury, reettn wertw .— by the archbishop of canterbury, justin welby , and— by the archbishop of canterbury, justin welby , and labour are justin welby, and labour are enter— justin welby, and labour are under pressure— justin welby, and labour are under pressure over a coalition of under pressure over a coalition et eneee— under pressure over a coalition et eneee ee— under pressure over a coalition et eneee ee str— under pressure over a coalition of chaos, as sir keir starmer eteeee— of chaos, as sir keir starmer eteeee te— of chaos, as sir keir starmer refuses to rule _ of chaos, as sir keir starmer refuses to rule out a deal with

tne— refuses to rule out a deal with me trt— refuses to rule out a deal with me ttt teme— refuses to rule out a deal with the lib dems .— refuses to rule out a deal with the lib dems . to— refuses to rule out a deal with the lib dems . to the former tory the lib dems. to the former tory mp the lib dems. to the former tory tttt antrew— the lib dems. to the former tory mp andrew bridgen was kicked out of mp andrew bridgen was kicked out et tne— mp andrew bridgen was kicked out et tne eettw— mp andrew bridgen was kicked out et tne tertw. ne— mp andrew bridgen was kicked out et tne tertw. we re— mp andrew bridgen was kicked out of the party. he is announcing ne-e— of the party. he is announcing ne-e tetntng— of the party. he is announcing he's joining the— of the party. he is announcing he's joining the reclaim party. were— he's joining the reclaim party. were getng— he's joining the reclaim party. were getng te— he's joining the reclaim party. we're going to have— he's joining the reclaim party. we're going to have the- he's joining the reclaim party. we're going to have the first exclusive interview with him to find out why. let us know your thoughts on that gbviews@gbnews.uk . but first of gbviews@gbnews.uk. but first of all, here is your with all, here is your news with bethany . all, here is your news with bethany. good all, here is your news with bethany . good morning. i'm bethany. good morning. i'm tetnenw— bethany. good morning. i'm tetnenw treew— bethany. good morning. i'm bethany elsey with- good morning. i'm bethany elsey with your top etertee— bethany elsey with your top stories from _ bethany elsey with your top stories from the— bethany elsey with your top stories from the newsroom at rrttt. — stories from the newsroom at tree. a— stories from the newsroom at tree. a us— stories from the newsroom at tree. a we jury— stories from the newsroom at 11:00. a us jury has found termer— 11:00. a us jury has found former president donald trump eeteerrw— former president donald trump sexually abused— former president donald trump sexually abused a magazine wetter— sexually abused a magazine wrtter tn— sexually abused a magazine writer in the— sexually abused a magazine writer in the 1990s and then tetemet— writer in the 1990s and then defamed her— writer in the 1990s and then defamed her by— writer in the 1990s and then defamed her by branding her a liar defamed her by branding her a tter .— defamed her by branding her a tree. nee— defamed her by branding her a liar. he's been— defamed her by branding her a liar. he's been ordered to pay neerrw— liar. he's been ordered to pay neerrw te— liar. he's been ordered to pay nearly £4 million— liar. he's been ordered to pay nearly £4 million in damages to the columnist— nearly £4 million in damages to the columnist e— nearly £4 million in damages to the columnist e e— nearly £4 million in damages to the columnist e e jean carroll. mr the columnist e e jean carroll. ttr treme— the columnist e e jean carroll. ttr tremt wttt— the columnist e e jean carroll. mr trump will not— the columnist e e jean carroll. mr trump will not face a prison sentence as the _ mr trump will not face a prison sentence as the trial was a etwtr— sentence as the trial was a etwtr ee— sentence as the trial was a civil case. ms— sentence as the trial was a civil case. ms carroll said the werttet— civil case. ms carroll said the werttet te— civil case. ms carroll said the werttet te e— civil case. ms carroll said the verdict is a victory— civil case. ms carroll said the verdict is a victory for every woman who suffered because she ween-t— woman who suffered because she

wasn't believed _ woman who suffered because she wasn't believed .— woman who suffered because she wasn't believed . and mr trump wasn't believed. and mr trump nee— wasn't believed. and mr trump nee eerret— wasn't believed. and mr trump has called it— wasn't believed. and mr trump has called it a— wasn't believed. and mr trump has called it a disgrace and eewe— has called it a disgrace and eewe nett— has called it a disgrace and says he'll appeal. i have absolutely no idea who this woman is , but the verdict is woman is, but the verdict is a disgrace . it's a continuation of disgrace. it's a continuation of the greatest witch hunt of all time . um. well, this is just one time. um. well, this is just one of time. um. well, this is just one et eeweret— time. um. well, this is just one of several charges— . well, this is just one of several charges that donald treme— of several charges that donald tremt te— of several charges that donald trump is facing,— of several charges that donald trump is facing, including an investigation— trump is facing, including an investigation into the capitol ntrt— investigation into the capitol hill insurrection— investigation into the capitol hill insurrection and election interference— hill insurrection and election interference in— hill insurrection and election interference in georgia . us interference in georgia. us discrimination— interference in georgia. us discrimination attorney gloria attret— discrimination attorney gloria atrret eewe— discrimination attorney gloria allred says he's— discrimination attorney gloria allred says he's garnering eetten— allred says he's garnering eetten by— allred says he's garnering support by peddling lies. ti support by peddling lies. he's eeteerrw— support by peddling lies. he's actually exploiting— support by peddling lies. he's actually exploiting the fact that he is being investigated, that he is being investigated, that he is being investigated, that he is being indicted. he is raising money, millions of dollars . raising money, millions of dollars. he's calling himself a victim . um, it's a witch hunt victim. um, it's a witch hunt and all of the other phrases that he uses time and again, his fundraiser off of poor people who believe in him , he is being who believe in him, he is being investigated. also by the special counsel. doctors and

nurses will soon be able to train on the job amid plans to tackle nhs workforce shortages . tackle nhs workforce shortages. up tackle nhs workforce shortages. up to 1 in 10 doctors and a wet— up to 1 in 10 doctors and a net et— up to 1 in 10 doctors and a third of nurses— up to 1 in 10 doctors and a third of nurses could be trained via third of nurses could be trained wte tne— third of nurses could be trained via the apprenticeship route in the via the apprenticeship route in me eemtng— via the apprenticeship route in the coming years— via the apprenticeship route in the coming years . the head of the coming years. the head of tne— the coming years. the head of me wes— the coming years. the head of me we eewe— the coming years. the head of the nhs says this— the coming years. the head of the nhs says this gives an ettertenttw— the nhs says this gives an opportunity for— the nhs says this gives an opportunity for school leavers to opportunity for school leavers te en— opportunity for school leavers to earn while— opportunity for school leavers to earn while they learn the eteneten— to earn while they learn the eteneten et— to earn while they learn the expansion of apprenticeships is eree— expansion of apprenticeships is etee eett— expansion of apprenticeships is etee eett te— expansion of apprenticeships is also said to offer— expansion of apprenticeships is also said to offer an alternative - also said to offer an alternative to a university tegree. — alternative to a university degree. andrew bridgen has announced he's— degree. andrew bridgen has announced he's joining the tteeretm— announced he's joining the reclaim party.— announced he's joining the reclaim party. the mp for neten—weet— reclaim party. the mp for north—west leicestershire was ettetret— north—west leicestershire was ettetret trem — north—west leicestershire was expelled from the conservatives e tweet— expelled from the conservatives over a tweet comparing covid 19 te— over a tweet comparing covid 19 vaccines to the— over a tweet comparing covid 19 vaccines to the holocaust cost. he eewe— vaccines to the holocaust cost. he eewe ne — vaccines to the holocaust cost. he says he wants— vaccines to the holocaust cost. he says he wants to join the teetetm — he says he wants to join the reclaim party,— he says he wants to join the reclaim party, which is led by laurence fox,— reclaim party, which is led by laurence fox, to— reclaim party, which is led by laurence fox, to protect free eteeen. — laurence fox, to protect free eteeen. ne— laurence fox, to protect free speech. he also— laurence fox, to protect free speech. he also claims there's a ee—eerret— speech. he also claims there's a so—called chasm— speech. he also claims there's a so—called chasm between parliament— so—called chasm between parliament and the people . the parliament and the people. the uk parliament and the people. the wt te— parliament and the people. the wt te eet— parliament and the people. the wt te eet te— parliament and the people. the uk is set to make— parliament and the people. the uk is set to make russia's mercenary wagner group a treeerttet— mercenary wagner group a proscribed terrorist organisation , asian. that's organisation, asian. that's eeeerttng— organisation, asian. that's eeeerttngte— organisation, asian. that's according to the times neweteeee— according to the times newspaper, which says the move is newspaper, which says the move te rtterw— newspaper, which says the move te rttetw te— newspaper, which says the move is likely to happen— newspaper, which says the move is likely to happen within eete — is likely to happen within eete tne— is likely to happen within weeks. the wagner group has been

ttgnttng— weeks. the wagner group has been fighting alongside— weeks. the wagner group has been fighting alongside russian tereee— fighting alongside russian tereee tn— fighting alongside russian forces in eastern ukraine. the teeteten— forces in eastern ukraine. the decision would— forces in eastern ukraine. the decision would mean it will be a ertmtnet— decision would mean it will be a criminal offence— decision would mean it will be a criminal offence to— decision would mean it will be a criminal offence to join and eeeten— criminal offence to join and eetten tne— criminal offence to join and support the group. similar treeerttet— support the group. similar proscribed organisations include teremte— proscribed organisations include teremtestete— proscribed organisations include islamic state and— proscribed organisations include islamic state and the group wettener— islamic state and the group national action. in pakistan, ermeet— national action. in pakistan, etmeet rott— national action. in pakistan, almost 1000 supporters of the termer— almost 1000 supporters of the former prime— almost 1000 supporters of the former prime minister imran tnen— former prime minister imran tnen newe— former prime minister imran khan, have been— former prime minister imran khan, have been arrested since ereenee— khan, have been arrested since ereenee tegen— khan, have been arrested since clashes began with police weetertew. — clashes began with police yesterday. the— clashes began with police yesterday. the former cricketer erreetet— yesterday. the former cricketer was arrested by— yesterday. the former cricketer was arrested by anti—corruption eerree— was arrested by anti—corruption tertee ent— was arrested by anti—corruption police and local— was arrested by anti—corruption police and local media are now retentng— police and local media are now retentng nte— police and local media are now reporting his former secretary—general has also been reten— secretary—general has also been teten tnte— secretary—general has also been taken into custody.— secretary—general has also been taken into custody. over 130 eerree— taken into custody. over 130 police officials— taken into custody. over 130 police officials have been tntwet— police officials have been injuredr tt— police officials have been injured, 25 police vehicles have teen— injured, 25 police vehicles have teen eet— injured, 25 police vehicles have been set alight— injured, 25 police vehicles have been set alight and dozens of gewernment— been set alight and dozens of government buildings looted in the government buildings looted in me tentet— government buildings looted in the punjab province . back here, the punjab province. back here, tnene— the punjab province. back here, enene neettng— the punjab province. back here, phone hacking, a— the punjab province. back here, phone hacking, a phone hacking teret— phone hacking, a phone hacking trial involving— phone hacking, a phone hacking trial involving the— phone hacking, a phone hacking trial involving the duke of seeee— trial involving the duke of seeee ent— trial involving the duke of sussex and the- trial involving the duke of sussex and the mirror group newetetere— sussex and the mirror group newetetere te— sussex and the mirror group newspapers is set to begin tetew— newspapers is set to begin today. prince— newspapers is set to begin today. prince harry will enter tne— today. prince harry will enter me wttneee— today. prince harry will enter the witness box— today. prince harry will enter the witness box over what he's eerttng — the witness box over what he's calling unlawful— the witness box over what he's calling unlawful information getnertng.— calling unlawful information gathering. other celebrities tnwerwet— gathering. other celebrities involved include former girls areet— involved include former girls areet etnger— involved include former girls aloud singer cheryl. the estate

of aloud singer cheryl. the estate et eeerge— aloud singer cheryl. the estate of george michael— aloud singer cheryl. the estate of george michael and footballer ian of george michael and footballer ten wegne— of george michael and footballer ten wrtgnt. tet— of george michael and footballer ian wright. but the tabloid is eenteettng— ian wright. but the tabloid is contesting the— ian wright. but the tabloid is contesting the claims, arguing tnet— contesting the claims, arguing tnet eeme— contesting the claims, arguing that some have— contesting the claims, arguing that some have been brought too rete— that some have been brought too rete. tt— that some have been brought too late. .uk events— that some have been brought too late. .uk events relating to the teeetee— late. .uk events relating to the teeetee ett — late. .uk events relating to the decades old unsolved murder of tentet— decades old unsolved murder of tentet ttergen— decades old unsolved murder of daniel morgan have been discovered— daniel morgan have been discovered by— daniel morgan have been discovered by the metropolitan eerree— discovered by the metropolitan tertee. tne— discovered by the metropolitan police. the paperwork was found police. the paperwork was foude in police. the paperwork was found tn e— police. the paperwork was found tn e reetet— police. the paperwork was found in a locked cabinet— police. the paperwork was found in a locked cabinet at new seettent— in a locked cabinet at new scotland yard— in a locked cabinet at new scotland yard that apparently netn-t— scotland yard that apparently netn-t teen— scotland yard that apparently hadn't been used for a number of weee— hadn't been used for a number of wee tne— hadn't been used for a number of years. the force— hadn't been used for a number of years. the force says— hadn't been used for a number of years. the force says some of tne— years. the force says some of the material— years. the force says some of the material should have been eetttenet— the material should have been eeertenet te— the material should have been published to the— the material should have been published to the daniel morgan tntetentent— published to the daniel morgan independent panel when was independent panel when it was eenteettng— independent panel when it was conducting its— independent panel when it was conducting its final report in tott— conducting its final report in tttr. tentet— conducting its final report in 2021. daniel john morgan was a trttten— 2021. daniel john morgan was a british private— 2021. daniel john morgan was a british private investigator who was murdered _ british private investigator who was murdered with an axe in tenten— was murdered with an axe in tenten tn— was murdered with an axe in london in 1987.— was murdered with an axe in london in 1987. longer lorries wtrr— london in 1987. longer lorries wtrr te— london in 1987. longer lorries will be allowed— london in 1987. longer lorries will be allowed on british roads ent— will be allowed on british roads ent e— will be allowed on british roads ent e ne— will be allowed on british roads and a new government plans to eerrw— and a new government plans to eerrw geete— and a new government plans to carry more goods with fewer teernewe— carry more goods with fewer teernewe. rt— carry more goods with fewer journeys. it will— carry more goods with fewer journeys. it will mean hgvs can be journeys. it will mean hgvs can te et— journeys. it will mean hgvs can te et te— journeys. it will mean hgvs can te et te twe— journeys. it will mean hgvs can be up to two metres longer with a maximum length of up to 61ft. tne— a maximum length of up to 61ft. the government— a maximum length of up to 61ft. the government says drivers will be the government says drivers will te ette— the government says drivers will te ette te— the government says drivers will be able to move— the government says drivers will be able to move the same amount of be able to move the same amount et geete— be able to move the same amount et geete tet— be able to move the same amount of goods, but using— be able to move the same amount of goods, but using 8% fewer teernewe—

of goods, but using 8% fewer teernewe .— of goods, but using 8% fewer teernewe . tne— of goods, but using 8% fewer journeys . the vehicles could be journeys. the vehicles could be errewet— journeys. the vehicles could be errewet en— journeys. the vehicles could be allowed on roads— journeys. the vehicles could be allowed on roads from the 31st of allowed on roads from the 31st et wew— allowed on roads from the 31st et moyt tne— allowed on roads from the 31st of may, the first— allowed on roads from the 31st of may, the first baby with dna trem— of may, the first baby with dna trem tnree— of may, the first baby with dna from three people— of may, the first baby with dna from three people has been born in from three people has been born tn tne— from three people has been born tn tne tet.— from three people has been born tn tne wt. tne— from three people has been born in the uk. the treatment aims to prevent— in the uk. the treatment aims to prevent tne— in the uk. the treatment aims to prevent the passing of defective genee— prevent the passing of defective genee trem — prevent the passing of defective genes from mothers by giving the tetw— genes from mothers by giving the tetw twa— genes from mothers by giving the tetw twa trem — genes from mothers by giving the baby dna from both parents and a temere— baby dna from both parents and a temere tene— baby dna from both parents and a female donor. the— baby dna from both parents and a female donor. the fertility regereter— female donor. the fertility regulator says— female donor. the fertility regulator says less than five tettee— regulator says less than five babies have— regulator says less than five babies have been born using the teenntgee— babies have been born using the teenntgee tn— babies have been born using the technique in parts— babies have been born using the technique in parts of england newe— technique in parts of england newe teen— technique in parts of england have been hit— technique in parts of england have been hit by— technique in parts of england have been hit by hail, storms, tnenter— have been hit by hail, storms, tnenter ent— have been hit by hail, storms, thunder and flash flooding. vtrtegee— thunder and flash flooding. vtrtegee tn— thunder and flash flooding. villages in somerset have been by— villages in somerset have been overcome by extreme rushing weter— overcome by extreme rushing weter tn— overcome by extreme rushing weter tn tne— overcome by extreme rushing water in the last— overcome by extreme rushing water in the last 24 hours. the wet— water in the last 24 hours. the ttet ttttee— water in the last 24 hours. the ttet ttttee te— water in the last 24 hours. the met office is warning heavy enwee— met office is warning heavy showers will— met office is warning heavy showers will continue over the next— showers will continue over the next twe — showers will continue over the next twe tewe— showers will continue over the next two days with some areas eeetng— next two days with some areas eeetng ewer— next two days with some areas seeing over four— next two days with some areas seeing over four centimetres of rem— seeing over four centimetres of tn— seeing over four centimetres of tn e— seeing over four centimetres of tn e tnree— seeing over four centimetres of rain in a three hour period. thunderstorm— rain in a three hour period. thunderstorm alerts are in place for thunderstorm alerts are in place ter eeetnern— thunderstorm alerts are in place for southern england, east angrte— for southern england, east angrte ent— for southern england, east anglia and parts of the midlands . ae— anglia and parts of the midlands . ae weere— anglia and parts of the midlands .ae weere et— anglia and parts of the midlands .ae weere et te— anglia and parts of the midlands . as you're up to date on gb wewe— . as you're up to date on gb wewe new— . as you're up to date on gb news now it's— . as you're up to date on gb news now it's back to andrew and bev news now it's back to andrew and tew .—

bev. now he's a conservative mp for a very long time was andrew bridgen, but he was kicked out of the party after comparing the covid vaccines to the holocaust. he's laurence fox he's now joined laurence fox reclaim party . that's right, the reclaim party. that's right, the emte— reclaim party. that's right, the emte ter— reclaim party. that's right, the member for-west- member for north west leicestershire said that his eteereten— leicestershire said that his expulsion -the. leicestershire said that his- expulsion -the culture expulsion confirmed the culture of expulsion confirmed the culture et eerrettten— expulsion confirmed the culture of corruption collude and cover ups— of corruption collude and cover ete tn— of corruption collude and cover ups in westminster, and he joins us ups in westminster, and he joins ee eeet— ups in westminster, and he joins us now. good morning, ups in westminster, and he joins us now. good morning , andrew us now. good morning, andrew trttgen— us now. good morning, andrew trttgen .— us now. good morning, andrew trttgen . eewerw— us now. good morning, andrew bridgen , lovely to see you. why bridgen, lovely to see you. why why— bridgen, lovely to see you. why wnw tne— bridgen, lovely to see you. why why the reclaim— bridgen, lovely to see you. why why the reclaim party . well why the reclaim party. well i tntnt— why the reclaim party. well i tntnt wee— why the reclaim party. well i think you speak— why the reclaim party. well i think you speak your truth. see wte— think you speak your truth. see wne nenge— think you speak your truth. see who hangs around— think you speak your truth. see who hangs around and- think you speak your truth. see who hangs around and you've found your tribe and i've found my tribe with laurence fox and the reclaim party . regrets, the reclaim party. regrets, andrew, because you were a tory. you've been a tory mp for many weee— you've been a tory mp for many wee a— you've been a tory mp for many years. a member— you've been a tory mp for many years. a member of— you've been a tory mp for many years. a member of the tory party_ years. a member of the tory tertw ter— years. a member of the tory party ter een— years. a member of the tory party for even longer. o“ party for even longer. oh, of tet— party for even longer. oh, of tet r— party for even longer. oh, of course. but i mean, i haven't lost my conservative values. i think the conservative party

currently i find unrecognisable . well, i would challenge you, andrew, as the great tory boy you are to tell me one conservative thing this government has achieved with an 80 seat majority. it's by far the least conservative government i've ever served in. and i think it's a huge opportunity lost. i think the conservative party has lost its way and longer is way and it no longer is relatable to the hopes and aspirations of the people. and i think parliament has lost its way and we seem to have a uni party. there's no real opposition and what we do know is that anyone that speaks out against the narrative, as i have done, will be cancelled . we done, will be cancelled. we i believe we should have a parliament that legislates for the people. what we've now got is a parliament that that creates problems for the people and that can't be tolerated . we and that can't be tolerated. we need to reclaim our democracy . need to reclaim our democracy. andrew yeah, right. but you're going— andrew yeah, right. but you're getng te— andrew yeah, right. but you're getng te etnt— andrew yeah, right. but you're going to sink without trace. antrew— going to sink without trace. andrew aren't— going to sink without trace. andrew aren't you? because reetetm— andrew aren't you? because reeretm. weere— andrew aren't you? because reclaim, you're the only mp for tteeretm. — reclaim, you're the only mp for reclaim. -think- reclaim, you're the only mp for reclaim. think they've reclaim. i don't think they've got reclaim. i don't think they've get enw— reclaim. i don't think they've got any councillors. you are it . teen.—

got any councillors. you are it . teen. tet— got any councillors. you are it . yeah, but even— got any councillors. you are it . yeah, but even even- got any councillors. you are it t/tir5t“ “ “ got any councillors. you are it . yeah, but even even a journey of a thousand miles starts with a single step. we're going to hit a single step. we're going to ntt tne— a single step. we're going to hit the ground— “tigti we're going to hit the ground running. there'll hit the groude running. there'll be hit the ground running. there'll te e— hit the ground running. there'll te e eemeetgn— hit the ground running. there'll be a campaign starting in north weet— be a campaign starting in north west leicestershire. as you tnew.— west leicestershire. as you tnew—acl west leicestershire. as you| tnew—ac te west leicestershire. as you- know,_ac is the know, my constituent ac is the neert— know, my constituent ac is the neen et— know, my constituent ac is the heart of england.— know, my constituent ac is the heart of england. it's the eentee— heart of england. it's the centre population, centre of population, the tenneet— centre of population, the furthest-sea. . centre of population, thei furthest - sea. we centre of population, the- furthest-sea. we are furthest from the sea. we are mtttte— furthest from the sea. we are middle _we're. furthest from the sea. we are middle—we're ai furthest from the sea. we are- middle _we're a good middle england and we're a good teremetee— middle england and we're a good barometer. and— middle england and we're a good barometer. and you'll be eertrteet.— barometer. and you'll be eererteet. t— barometer. and you'll be surprised. i think there'll be a lot surprised. i think there'll be a tet et— surprised. i think there'll be a lot of constituents. his asking to lot of constituents. his asking te tet— lot of constituents. his asking to put-reclaimed- lot of constituents. his asking to put reclaimed candidates to put up reclaimed candidates at to put up reclaimed candidates et-nett— to put up reclaimed candidates at-next general— to put up reclaimed candidates at next general election and at the next general election and of course,-longer_ at the next general election and of course, longer we go on of course, the longer we go on entr— of course, the longer we go oni until—election, until the next general election, wnten— until the next general election, wnten-tntnt— until the next general election, which think actually which i don't think actually wtrr— which i don't think actually wtrr te— which i don't think actually will be that— which i don't think actually will be that long, the more i'm going— will be that long, the more i'm getng te— will be that long, the more i'm going to vindicated as going to be vindicated as renter— going to be vindicated asi renter—eet going to be vindicated as- further_out about further science comes out about the further science comes out about me neeme— further science comes out about me nerme ent— further science comes out about the harms and lack of safety and ettteeew— the harms and lack of safety and ettteeew et— the harms and lack of safety and efficacy of the— the harms and lack of safety and efficacy of the covid 19 vaccinations,— efficacy of the covid 19 vaccinations, it's the science is vaccinations, it's the science te energeetre— vaccinations, it's the science te energeetre .— vaccinations, it's the science is unarguable . now, i andrew, is unarguable. now, i andrew, i etwteeerw— is unarguable. now, i andrew, i etwteeerw .— is unarguable. now, i andrew, i etwteeetw . wee— is unarguable. now, i andrew, i obviously , you know, i have some obviously, you know, i have some ewmtetnw— obviously, you know, i have some ewmtetnw wttn— obviously, you know, i have some sympatby with your— obviously, you know, i have some sympathy with your position on the sympathy with your position on me teet— sympathy with your position on me teet tnet— sympathy with your position on the fact that there was so true— the fact that there was so little debate _ the fact that there was so little debate around the rollout little debate aroude the rollout of little debate around the rollout et tne— little debate around the rollout et tne etwt— little debate around the rollout of the covid vaccines indiscriminately for all ages. vee— indiscriminately for all ages. tee ent— indiscriminately for all ages. tee ent t— indiscriminately for all ages. you and i were— indiscriminately for all ages. you and i were both- indiscriminately for all ages. you and i were both at- indiscriminately for all ages. you and i were both at an all party parliament group together where to doctors party parliament group together where about to doctors party parliament group together where about the to doctors party parliament group together where about the costioctors talking about the cost and benefits for certain demographics. i would quite like

you to still be in the conservative party and making some sort of impression from within that unit that possesses more power . within that unit that possesses more power. do you look back and regret that you made that comparison? you effectively got kicked out for using a simile. do you ever wish you'd rephrase that difference slightly ? well, that difference slightly? well, it wasn't my phrase, actually. it was a jewish researcher's ttreee— it was a jewish researcher's pbraset wnten— it was a jewish researcher's phrase, which is— it was a jewish researcher's phrase, which is difficult to new— phrase, which is difficult to new tt— phrase, which is difficult to see how it possibly could have teen— see how it possibly could have been anti—semitic. and as i tetntet— been anti—semitic. and as i tetntet eet— been anti—semitic. and as i pointed out to— been anti—semitic. and as i pointed out to the party, i eeteerrw— pointed out to the party, i actually didn't— pointed out to the party, i actually didn't i never had the twttter— actually didn't i never had the twitter code. _ actually didn't i never had the twitter code. so— actually didn't i never had the twitter code. so i— actually didn't i never had the twitter code. so i always had my tweete— twitter code. so i always had my tweets moderated— twitter code. so i always had my tweets moderated for the last 12 weere— tweets moderated for the last 12 weere tetere— tweets moderated for the last 12 years before they— tweets moderated for the last 12 years before they go up and that tn— years before they go up and that one in particular— years before they go up and that one in particular was moderated by my— one in particular was moderated by my conservative association eetnrmen— by my conservative association eetnrmen wne— by my conservative association chairman, who then refused to etent— chairman, who then refused to etent et— chairman, who then refused to etent et ent— chairman, who then refused to stand up and admit that he'd eeetet— stand up and admit that he'd teetet tne— stand up and admit that he'd posted the tweet, not me . it's posted the tweet, not me. it's a wew— posted the tweet, not me. it's a werw regrettetre— posted the tweet, not me. it's a very regrettable state of ettetre. — very regrettable state of affairs. but— very regrettable state of affairs. but as- very regrettable state of affairs. but as you know , i affairs. but as you know, i eemtng— affairs. but as you know, i mean, coming back to the to the teeee— mean, coming back to the to the et— mean, coming back to the to the issue of vaccine— mean, coming back to the to the issue of vaccine harms, it's not teet— issue of vaccine harms, it's not teet weeetne— issue of vaccine harms, it's not just vaccine harms. _ issue of vaccine harms, it's not just vaccine harms. we can't

even have a debate in the mother of even have a debate in the mother et err— even have a debate in the mother of all parliaments— even have a debate in the mother of all parliaments about excess teette— of all parliaments about excess teetne. we— of all parliaments about excess deaths. we can't— of all parliaments about excess deaths. we can't have a debate eteet—teetne. - deaths. we can't have a debate about—deaths. last. about the excess deaths. last weet-e— about the excess deaths. last week's were 2540, week's figures were 2540, eeeerttng— week's figures were 2540, according to— week's figures were 2540, according to the ons . excess according to the ons. excess teette— according to the ons. excess deaths. that's— according to the ons. excess deaths. that's 22.1% above the rerrtng— deaths. that's 22.1% above the rerrtng ttwe— deaths. that's 22.1% above the rolling five year— deaths. that's 22.1% above the rolling five year average. and in rolling five year average. and tn tne— rolling five year average. and in the mother— rolling five year average. and in the mother of— rolling five year average. and in the mother of all parliaments, we can't have a teeete— parliaments, we can't have a twee-rt.— parliaments, we can't have a debate-it. those- parliaments, we can't have a debate it. those are debate about it. those are issues-affect- debate about it. those are issues affect every issues that affect every eemmenttw— issues that affect every community in every constituent . community in every constituent. seet— community in every constituent. see. ant— community in every constituent. see, and there's— community in every constituent. see, and there's only me asking for see, and there's only me asking tee-tetete. — see, and there's only me asking for-debate. there's- for the debate. there's eemetntng— for the debate. there's something wrong something gone seriously wrong in something gone seriously wrong tn-temeereew.— something gone seriously wrong in-democracy. bev- something gone seriously wrong in democracy. bev are you in our democracy. bev are you going— in our democracy. bev are you getng te— in our democracy. bev are you getng te eet— in our democracy. bev are you getng te eet ter— in our democracy. bev are you going to ask for a— in our democracy. bev are you going to ask for a byelection? wert— going to ask for a byelection? were ereerrw— going to ask for a byelection? well, clearly not. _ going to ask for a byelection? well, clearly not. i— going to ask for a byelection? well, clearly not. i know- going to ask for a byelection? well, clearly not. i know the answer to this question. should you be holding a by—election in your constituency? i think when anna soubry stood down or changed parties in 2019, you said that she should have a by—election. should you ? we're by—election. should you? we're going to have a general election in the next 12 months. i wouldn't want to “ “rix. �*zz�*t i wouldn't want to inflict two in the next 12 months. i- wouldn't want to inflict two in in wouldn't want to inflict two in tn rt— wouldn't want to inflict two in tn rt memne— wouldn't want to inflict two in in 12 months upon my constituents. - in 12 months upon my constituents. we're going to hit the constituents. we're going to hit me greent— constituents. we're going to hit me greent ent— constituents. we're going to hit the ground and start campaigning etretgnt— the ground and start campaigning etretgnt ewew. — the ground and start campaigning etretgnt ewew. t— the ground and start campaigning straight away. i think as soon as straight away. i think as soon ee tne— straight away. i think as soon as the boundary— straight away. i think as soon as the boundary changes have gene— as the boundary changes have gene-tntnt- as the boundary changes have gone -think rishi i gone through, i think rishi tenet— gone through, i think rishi senet te— gone through, i think rishi sunak is going cut and run.

sunak is going to cut and run. if sunak is going to cut and run. rt ttere. — sunak is going to cut and run. if there. andrew,— sunak is going to cut and run. if there. andrew, what- sunak is going to cut and run. if there. andrew, what prospect do you have of holding that seat because it's a safe tory seat? i mean, partly down to your hard work there. i mean, what was your majority at the last election? well, it was it wasn't antrew. — election? well, it was it wasn't andrew. andrew— election? well, it was it wasn't andrew. andrew it— r tit“7 well, it was it wasn't andrew. andrew it was a safe tory— andrew. andrew it was a safe terw eeet— andrew. andrew it was a safe terw eeet ent— andrew. andrew it was a safe tory seat and we— andrew. andrew it was a safe tory seat and we had we had eenteet— tory seat and we had we had eentret et— tory seat and we had we had control of the— tory seat and we had we had control of the district council etee— control of the district council r— control of the district council r ren— control of the district council since i ran the— control of the district council since i ran the campaign in two tneeeent— since i ran the campaign in two tneeeent ent— since i ran the campaign in two thousand and seven. and won we the thousand and seven. and won we tne eeenett— thousand and seven. and won we the council 40— thousand and seven. and won we the council 40 years of labour ent— the council 40 years of labour ent we— the council 40 years of labour ent we reet— the council 40 years of labour and we lost the— the council 40 years of labour and we lost the council, the party— and we lost the council, the tertw eteetet— and we lost the council, the tertw eteetet er— and we lost the council, the party ejected or expelled their ettttng— party ejected or expelled their sitting conservative mp and my eeenetrrere— sitting conservative mp and my councillors lost— sitting conservative mp and my councillors lost with a huge ereentng— councillors lost with a huge crushing defeat.— councillors lost with a huge crushing defeat. they lost . they crushing defeat. they lost. they teet— crushing defeat. they lost. they reet ten— crushing defeat. they lost. they reet ten eet— crushing defeat. they lost. they lost ten out of— crushing defeat. they lost. they lost ten out of 21— crushing defeat. they lost. they lost ten out of 21 councillors ereetet — lost ten out of 21 councillors ereetet tn— lost ten out of 21 councillors elected in 2019,— lost ten out of 21 councillors elected in 2019, effectively , elected in 2019, effectively, tne— elected in 2019, effectively, tne tetew— elected in 2019, effectively, the labour party won that eteetten— the labour party won that election in— the labour party won that election in north—west leicestershire- election in north—west leicestershire as shocking as it as leicestershire as shocking as it ee tt— leicestershire as shocking as it ee tt mtgnt— leicestershire as shocking as it ee tt mtgnt te— leicestershire as shocking as it as it might be, that's a seat tnet— as it might be, that's a seat me we— as it might be, that's a seat that we returned _ as it might be, that's a seat that we returned with a 20,400 meg-entw— that we returned with a 20,400 meterttw tn— that we returned with a 20,400 majority in 2019,— that we returned with a 20,400 majority in 2019, which which seems a very long time ago. and so seems a very long time ago. and ee menw— seems a very long time ago. and so many manifesto— seems a very long time ago. and so many manifesto pledges have teen— so many manifesto pledges have teen treten— so many manifesto pledges have teen treten .— so many manifesto pledges have been broken . it's— so many manifesto pledges have

been broken . it's almost been broken. it's almost unbelievable.- been broken. it's almost unbelievable. andrew there'll be a unbelievable. andrew there'll be e tet— unbelievable. andrew there'll be e tet et— unbelievable. andrew there'll be e ret et teeete— unbelievable. andrew there'll be a lot of people wondering why you— a lot of people wondering why wee tttn-t— a lot of people wondering why you didn't align— a lot of people wondering why you didn't align yourself or tetn— you didn't align yourself or tetn tne— you didn't align yourself or join the reform— you didn't align yourself or join the reform party . 3ti join the reform party. richard ttee-e— join the reform party. richard ttee-e party— join the reform party. richard tice's party probably in terms of independent parties, a little bit better known than reclaim. was that an option for you . it was that an option for you. it could have been, but ultimately i could have been, but ultimately r reetet— could have been, but ultimately r reetet et— could have been, but ultimately i looked at the— could have been, but ultimately i looked at the policies and reetet— i looked at the policies and reetet et— i looked at the policies and looked at the— i looked at the policies and looked at the personalities. and i'm looked at the personalities. and r-m etrett— looked at the personalities. and i'm afraid the— looked at the personalities. and i'm afraid the reform party have ent— i'm afraid the reform party have ent tetng— i'm afraid the reform party have and being generous, have been tneenetetent— and being generous, have been inconsistent with— and being generous, have been inconsistent with their tertetee— inconsistent with their policies, particularly around policies, particularly aroude the policies, particularly around the vaccines— policies, particularly around the vaccines .— policies, particularly around the vaccines . and that was the vaccines. and that was tteettetnttng— the vaccines. and that was tteettetnttng .— the vaccines. and that was disappointing . okay. and what disappointing. okay. and what just disappointing. okay. and what teet gtwe— disappointing. okay. and what teet gtwe ee— disappointing. okay. and what teet gtwe ee en— disappointing. okay. and what just give us an idea. “ just give us an idea. this is wee-we— just give us an idea. this is weewe get— just give us an idea. this is weewe get e— just give us an idea. this is you've got a couple of minutes. what's the pitch for reclaim? what's the pitch for reclaim? what do you stand for? what will that party represent running up to next election in the to the next election in the freedom of speech is the basis of our society . the rights and of our society. the rights and trtwtregee— of our society. the rights and ertwtregee et— of our society. the rights and privileges of our— ” r ti.gt the rights and privileges of our democracy . we privileges of our democracy. we are privileges of our democracy. we ter— privileges of our democracy. we are for smaller— privileges of our democracy. we are for smaller government , are for smaller government, retttng— are for smaller government, retttng teeete— are for smaller government, letting people earn more money and letting people earn more money ent retetn— letting people earn more money and retain more— letting people earn more money and retain more of— letting people earn more money and retain more of their own

menew — and retain more of their own menew we— and retain more of their own money. we would certainly get rid money. we would certainly get rtt et— money. we would certainly get rtt et net— money. we would certainly get rtt et nst .— money. we would certainly get nt of h52 . we— money. we would certainly get rid of hs2 . we do— money. we would certainly get rid of hs2 . we do not believe rid of hs2. we do not believe me— rid of hs2. we do not believe me tnee— rid of hs2. we do not believe that there is— rid of hs2. we do not believe that there is actually a climate emergenew— that there is actually a climate emergenew. tnte— that there is actually a climate emergency. this is, i'm afraid , emergency. this is, i'm afraid, enetner— emergency. this is, i'm afraid, enetner trt— emergency. this is, i'm afraid, another bit of— emergency. this is, i'm afraid, another bit of propaganda that's teen— another bit of propaganda that's teen eeenet— another bit of propaganda that's been pushed onto— another bit of propaganda that's been pushed onto the people we went— been pushed onto the people we want parliament— been pushed onto the people we want parliament to _ been pushed onto the people we want parliament to actually retreeent— want parliament to actually represent the _ want parliament to actually represent the views of the teeete— represent the views of the eeerte. net— represent the views of the people, not some some some elite eeent— people, not some some some elite eeent tne— people, not some some some elite around the world— people, not some some some elite around the world who seem to newe— around the world who seem to have more power— around the world who seem to have more power over policy in in have more power over policy in tn tne— have more power over policy in tn tne neeee— have more power over policy in in the house behind me than the teeete— in the house behind me than the eeerte were— in the house behind me than the people we're supposed to retreeent. — people we're supposed to represent. and- people we're supposed to represent. and don't think that sir represent. and don't think that en tetr— represent. and don't think that sir keir starmer— represent. and don't think that sir keir starmer is the answer. nee— sir keir starmer is the answer. we erreetw— sir keir starmer is the answer. he's already said— sir keir starmer is the answer. he's already said that he teetere— he's already said that he teetere te— he's already said that he prefers to be _ he's already said that he prefers to be in davos than westminster— prefers to be in davos than westminster .— prefers to be in davos than westminster . that prefers to be in davos than westminster. that man is not fit to westminster. that man is not fit te te— westminster. that man is not fit te te netme— westminster. that man is not fit to be prime minister. there is no to be prime minister. there is ne reet— to be prime minister. there is no real choice— to be prime minister. there is no real choice out— to be prime minister. there is no real choice out there. what we— no real choice out there. what we we— no real choice out there. what we we neet— no real choice out there. what what we need is,— no real choice out there. what what we need is, is the reclaim party— what we need is, is the reclaim tertw wtrt— what we need is, is the reclaim party wttr grew— what we need is, is the reclaim party will grow very rapidly trem— party will grow very rapidly from north—west leicestershire. wett— from north—west leicestershire. we-rr newe— from north—west leicestershire. we-rr newe ee— from north—west leicestershire. we'll have as many candidates as we can manage at— we'll have as many candidates as we can manage at the next generer— we can manage at the next general election- we can manage at the next general election and as many eentttetee— general election and as many candidates as— general election and as many candidates as people want. and i tntnt— candidates as people want. and i tntnt tnere-e— candidates as people want. and i think there's-to— candidates as people want. and i think there's-to be- candidates as people want. and i think there's to be huge think there's going to be huge tement— think there's going to be huge demand from _ think there's going to be huge demand from a— think there's going to be huge demand from a lot of constituencies for reclaim eentttetee— constituencies for reclaim candidates. and we'll be a genetne— candidates. and we'll be a genuine alternative to what were— genuine alternative to what weere eeetng— genuine alternative to what you're seeing in— genuine alternative to what you're seeing in parliament now , is you're seeing in parliament now .-te etteettwerw— you're seeing in parliament now ,-is effectively-uni.

, which is effectively the uni party— , which is effectively the uni tertw en— , which is effectively the uni tertw en en— , which is effectively the uni tertw en en err— , which is effectively the uni party on on all the major issues tnet— party on on all the major issues we ee— party on on all the major issues we getng— party on on all the major issues that are going to— party on on all the major issues that are going to change your tree— that are going to change your ttwee wnten— that are going to change your lives which the— that are going to change your lives which the public have never voted— lives which the public have never voted for. _ lives which the public have never voted for. the two major eentee— never voted for. the two major parties—lockstep . parties are in total lockstep ent— parties are in total lockstep ent-getng— parties are in total lockstep ent-getng te- parties are in total lockstep and-going to be- parties are in total lockstep and going to be a breath and we're going to be a breath of and we're going to be a breath et treet— and we're going to be a breath et treen et— and we're going to be a breath of fresh air. it's— and we're going to be a breath of fresh air. it's not it's not eteee— of fresh air. it's not it's not eneet te— of fresh air. it's not it's not cheap to launch- of fresh air. it's not it's not cheap to launch and run a terttteet— cheap to launch and run a political party. - cheap to launch and run a political party. ' “ti i political party. andrew does reclaim have the sort of backing required to stand in multiple seats ? well that's well that's seats? well that's well that's tnet-e— seats? well that's well that's that's another— 7 well that's well that's that's another problem. i mean, eerrentrw— that's another problem. i mean, eerrentrw .— that's another problem. i mean, currently , despite— that's another problem. i mean, currently , despite reclaim being currently, despite reclaim being a currently, despite reclaim being e tene— currently, despite reclaim being e tene ttte— currently, despite reclaim being e tene ttte e— currently, despite reclaim being a bona fide a approved political party— a bona fide a approved political tertw ter— a bona fide a approved political party for several— a bona fide a approved political party for several years with the ereeterer— party for several years with the electoral commission , you'll be electoral commission, you'll be emeet— electoral commission, you'll be emeet new— electoral commission, you'll be amazed how we're— electoral commission, you'll be amazed how we're struggling to get e— amazed how we're struggling to get e tent— amazed how we're struggling to get a bank account that will eeeett— get a bank account that will accept donations and memberships . anwtetw— accept donations and memberships . anwtetw weert— accept donations and memberships . anybody would think it was een— . anybody would think it was eert et— . anybody would think it was some sort of action to stop any eemtetttten— some sort of action to stop any competition out— some sort of action to stop any competition out there. and this is competition out there. and this te tn— competition out there. and this te tn trttetn— competition out there. and this is in britain in— competition out there. and this is in britain in 2023, but neteterrw— is in britain in 2023, but hopefully that will be sorted nett— hopefully that will be sorted next weet. — hopefully that will be sorted next weet. r— hopefully that will be sorted next week. i think we're going to next week. i think we're going te newe— next week. i think we're going te newe wett— next week. i think we're going to have we'll have huge demand to have we'll have huge demade for to have we'll have huge demand for memberships.— to have we'll have huge demand for memberships. i've already got for memberships. i've already get tete— for memberships. i've already get rete et— for memberships. i've already got lots of offers— for memberships. i've already got lots of offers of support . got lots of offers of support. oh,— got lots of offers of support. on. ent — got lots of offers of support. on. ent by— got lots of offers of support. oh, and by the— got lots of offers of support. oh, and by the way, i need to tetr— oh, and by the way, i need to err wee— oh, and by the way, i need to en wee tnet— oh, and by the way, i need to tell you that i've— oh, and by the way, i need to tell you that i've yesterday r-we — tell you that i've yesterday

r-we tttet— tell you that i've yesterday i've filed in— tell you that i've yesterday i've filed in the— tell you that i've yesterday i've filed in the in the in the eeert— i've filed in the in the in the eeen et— i've filed in the in the in the court of justice— i've filed in the in the in the court of justice the defamation eretm— court of justice the defamation etetm egetnet— court of justice the defamation claim against matt hancock, mp and claim against matt hancock, mp ent tnet-e— claim against matt hancock, mp ent tnet-e gene— claim against matt hancock, mp and that's gone live today as wert— and that's gone live today as wet. ttew— and that's gone live today as wet. ttew — and that's gone live today as well. okay right.- and that's gone live today as well. okay 3tig“. ' “ti and that's gone live today as well. okay 3tig“. ' i well. okay right. andrew, thank you so much. we need to point out fascinating the pharmaceutical companies are not here to defend themselves against accusations that they may be responsible for vaccine injuries. indeed and of course, i injuries. indeed and of course, rtntnt— injuries. indeed and of course, rtntnt e— injuries. indeed and of course, rtntnt e ret— injuries. indeed and of course, 1 think a lot of— injuries. indeed and of course, 1 think a lot of the— ii and of course, i think a lot of the money for tne— i think a lot of the money for me teeretm— i think a lot of the money for the reclaim party comes from retee— the reclaim party comes from peter cruddas,_ the reclaim party comes from peter cruddas, who was a tory tener— peter cruddas, who was a tory tener ter— peter cruddas, who was a tory donor for many— peter cruddas, who was a tory donor for many years and was a big donor for many years and was a ttg eettener— donor for many years and was a ttg eettener et— donor for many years and was a big supporter of boris johnson. antrew— big supporter of boris johnson. andrew bridgen— big supporter of boris johnson. andrew bridgen ,— big supporter of boris johnson. andrew bridgen , by the way, will andrew bridgen, by the way, will reee— andrew bridgen, by the way, will teee nte— andrew bridgen, by the way, will teee nte eeet.— andrew bridgen, by the way, will lose his seat, i— andrew bridgen, by the way, will lose his seat, i guarantee it. teeettrw— lose his seat, i guarantee it. teeettrw .— lose his seat, i guarantee it. teeettrw . tet— lose his seat, i guarantee it. possibly . but you— lose his seat, i guarantee it. possibly . but you know- lose his seat, i guarantee it. possibly . but you know what? possibly. but you know what? i like a man with values. i'm sorry. tom's with us. olivia's wttn— sorry. tom's with us. olivia's wttn — sorry. tom's with us. olivia's with us. what— sorry. tom's with us. olivia's with us. what do— tom's with us. olivia's with us. what do you think? do you— with us. what do you think? do wee tntnt— with us. what do you think? do you think he'll— with us. what do you think? do you think he'll lose his seat? i you think he'll lose his seat? r tntnt— you think he'll lose his seat? r tttnt tte— you think he'll lose his seat? 1 think it's fairly,— you think he'll lose his seat? 1 think it's fairly, fairly- i think it's fairly, fairly obvious he will lose his seat. one the issues new one of the issues with new parties, particularly parties that seen to be single issue that are seen to be single issue parties, they have a big, big struggle trying to win. particularly general particularly at general elections. course , ukip only elections. of course, ukip only managed to win1—1 seat at at that general election in 20. we

7 in 20. hang on. let me 2015, 2015, it was and that was with 16 or 17% of the vote. it really quite extraordinary level of support and name recognition. the problem with reclaim and a lot of the other parties is we also talk a bit about reform. they are bumbling along maybe at 4 or 5% in the opinion polls. reclaim nowhere near that. people confuse their names very often they do, including me. also, the big figures in those parties are not sort of seen as national leaders in in the big forums of debate. so i think, frankly, getting in getting into that conversation will be a big, big struggle. you know, what if reetetm— big struggle. you know, what if reetetm ee— big struggle. you know, what if reclaim are running— big struggle. you know, what if reclaim are running on- rig igig you know, what if reclaim are running on a free eteeen— reclaim are running on a free eteeen ttetet— reclaim are running on a free speech ticket that is going to be speech ticket that is going to te teeetee— speech ticket that is going to te teeetee te— speech ticket that is going to te teeetee te e— speech ticket that is going to be popular to a lot of people wte— be popular to a lot of people we teet— be popular to a lot of people who feel that— be popular to a lot of people who feel that they hear the phraset — who feel that they hear the tnreeeleen-t- who feel that they hear the phrase, can't that all phrase, you can't say that all tee— phrase, you can't say that all tee meen.— phrase, you can't say that all too much. olivia— phrase, you can't say that all too much. olivia yeah , i mean, too much. olivia yeah, i mean, we— too much. olivia yeah, i mean, we teeretm— too much. olivia yeah, i mean, what reclaim has— too much. olivia yeah, i mean, what reclaim has done is very tettteretetw— what reclaim has done is very deliberately waded into the eettere — deliberately waded into the culture wars _ deliberately waded into the culture wars ,— deliberately waded into the culture wars , and the main thing culture wars, and the main thing tnet— culture wars, and the main thing we tteeretm— culture wars, and the main thing that reclaim is— culture wars, and the main thing that reclaim is fighting for and this that reclaim is fighting for and

we re— that reclaim is fighting for and we te etr— that reclaim is fighting for and this is all over— that reclaim is fighting for and this is all over their website is this is all over their website te tree— this is all over their website is free speech. _ this is all over their website is free speech. trig is free speech. that is all very well , but as is free speech. that is all very well, but as tom says, that is free speech. that is all very well , but as tom says, that vote well, but as tom says, that vote is going to split between the is going to be split between the reform party and the reclaim party. and at the moment, reform is polling a lot better. the polling for reclaim- is polling a lot better. the polling for reclaim is- “rig the polling for reclaim is so low, tte— polling for reclaim is so low, we wettw— polling for reclaim is so low, it's pretty much— polling for reclaim is so low, it's pretty much impossible to ttnt— it's pretty much impossible to ttnt ttnt— it's pretty much impossible to find find out— it's pretty much impossible to find find out even what they are retttng— find find out even what they are pollingilaurence_ find find out even what they are polling laurence he polling. laurence fox, when he ereet— polling. laurence fox, when he eteetlte— polling. laurence fox, when he stood-be london— polling. laurence fox, when he stood be london mayor under stood to be london mayor under the stood to be london mayor under me tteeretm— stood to be london mayor under the reclaim-lost- stood to be london mayor under the reclaim lost his the reclaim banner, lost his teteett. — the reclaim banner, lost his teteett. lget— the reclaim banner, lost his deposit. .got so- the reclaim banner, lost his deposit. tigtit. the reclaim banner, lost his- deposit. .got so few votes and deposit. he got so few votes and in the by—election, when martin daubney stood in 2021, he only got 375 votes. so it's just there isn't very much momentum at all behind this party. and although andrew bridgen , as he although andrew bridgen, as he keeps saying, did win the last election with 63% of the vote and his his share of the vote has been going up, election by—election ever since he first became a tory mp . there is this became a tory mp. there is this tendency among sitting mps to overestimate their personal vote and it seems quite likely that that's a tory vote and it'll come out blue. he probably gets eteet— come out blue. he probably gets eteet a— come out blue. he probably gets eteet a er— come out blue. he probably gets about 4 or 5000— come out blue. he probably gets about 4 or 5000 votes- r he probably gets about 4 or 5000 votes because tte— about 4 or 5000 votes because we ntm. — about 4 or 5000 votes because we ntm. tee— about 4 or 5000 votes because it's him. you wonder why he tttnt— it's him. you wonder why he tttn-t teet— it's him. you wonder why he didn't just stand— it's him. you wonder why he didn't just stand as an independent-

didn't just stand as an independent if he's if didn't just stand as an- independent-if he's if he's independent then if he's if he's eenettteente— independent then if he's if he's constituents like— independent then if he's if he's constituents like him so much ent— constituents like him so much ent tnew— constituents like him so much ent tnew eeme— constituents like him so much and they some of— constituents like him so much and they some of them some of mem — and they some of them some of mem wtrr— and they some of them some of them will obviously despise his teettten— them will obviously despise his position-vaccine- them will obviously despise his position vaccine rollout, position on the vaccine rollout, seme— position on the vaccine rollout, seme-wtrr— position on the vaccine rollout,| some -will-respect some people will really respect the some people will really respect tne-tnet— some people will really respect the .that what _ some people will really respect the-that what he's- some people will really respect the that what he's tried to the fact that what he's tried to do the fact that what he's tried to telnewe— the fact that what he's tried to telnewe e— the fact that what he's tried to do have a conversation about do is have a conversation about t. — do is have a conversation about t. ant— do is have a conversation about t. ant ttee-e— do is have a conversation about it. and that's what— do is have a conversation about it. and that's what he's- do is have a conversation about it. and that's what he's been. people will like that. some people that. wonder people will like that. some peopithe that. wonder people will like that. some peopithe pros that. wonder people will like that. some peopithe pros andit. wonder people will like that. some peopithe pros and consvonder what the pros and cons would have for tom, of have been for him, tom, of standing independent. standing as an independent. we've an example we've got we've got an example of this, something that happened in when a lot in the 2017 election when a lot of and some of labour mps and some conservative split off from conservative mps split off from their respective parties and formed the independent group for change and a sort of a group of independent ents that were more loosely associated that then folded really after the european elections when the lib dems surged, some of them split off to join the liberal democrats, but others continued on as a more looser group of independents led by a guy called gavin shuker. now they all lost tnetr— gavin shuker. now they all lost tnetr eeete— gavin shuker. now they all lost their seats did— gavin shuker. now they all lost their seats did despite- c155 “ now they all lost their seats did despite having teen— their seats did despite having teen ttte— their seats did despite having been mps many— their seats did despite having been mps many of them for many, menw— been mps many of them for many, menw weere— been mps many of them for many, menw weere new— been mps many of them for many, many years now. and even the tnet— many years now. and even the ones that went— many years now. and even the ones that went and joined the termttetre— ones that went and joined the formidable campaigning machine

that formidable campaigning machine tnetwee— formidable campaigning machine tnet tne— formidable campaigning machine that was the liberal democrats tnet— that was the liberal democrats tnet nee— that was the liberal democrats that has done— that was the liberal democrats that has done so— that was the liberal democrats that has done so well in by ereettene— that has done so well in by ereettene .— that has done so well in by elections , most— that has done so well in by elections , most of them lost elections, most of them lost tnetr— elections, most of them lost tnetr eeete— elections, most of them lost their seats when _ elections, most of them lost their seats when it came to the generet— their seats when it came to the general election— their seats when it came to the general election and perhaps antrew— general election and perhaps andrew bridgen— general election and perhaps andrew bridgen has really missed a andrew bridgen has really missed e trtet— andrew bridgen has really missed etrtet tere— andrew bridgen has really missed e trtet nere by— andrew bridgen has really missed a trick here by not— andrew bridgen has really missed a trick here by not calling a tw-eteetten— a trick here by not calling a by—election for— a trick here by not calling a by—election for himself because the by—election for himself because tne teet— by—election for himself because the best chance— by—election for himself because the best chance that these teteetere— the best chance that these defectors tend _ the best chance that these defectors tend to have is in a tw—eteetten— defectors tend to have is in a by—election. when the media ettentten— by—election. when the media ettentten te— by—election. when the media attention is on— by—election. when the media attention is on or— by—election. when the media attention is on or the exposure ent— attention is on or the exposure ent tn— attention is on or the exposure ent tn e— attention is on or the exposure and in a general,— attention is on or the exposure and in a general, they're just went— and in a general, they're just went te— and in a general, they're just won't be that— and in a general, they're just won't be that sort of exposure. weew— won't be that sort of exposure. werw geet— won't be that sort of exposure. werw geet eemt— won't be that sort of exposure. very good point he'll be lost. ant— very good point he'll be lost. ant eree— very good point he'll be lost. and also talking— very good point he'll be lost. and also talking about- very good point he'll be lost. and also talking about these these sort of minority fringe parties, if you like, howard cox, a fair fuel uk has announced today that he's going to stand as london mayor for the reform what you reform party. what do you make of olivia? i was of that, olivia? well, i was speaking to some of sadiq khan's colleagues in city hall and they were actually saying that what they're worried about are independent candidates . they're independent candidates. they're not worried about the _ ii i i i they're not worried about the threat trem — not worried about the threat trem tne — not worried about the threat from the tories— not worried about the threat from the tories in london. were— from the tories in london. ttere teet— from the tories in london. there just-tory- from the tories in london. . there just-tory presence there just isn't a tory presence in london. but in those outer london boroughs, those places in london. but in those outer lond01aretroughs, those places in london. but in those outer lond01are really;, those places in london. but in those outer lond01are really badlye places in london. but in those outer lond01are really badly affected in london. but in those outer loruleze really badly affected in london. but in those outer lorulez in eally badly affected in london. but in those outer lorulez in they badly affected in london. but in those outer lorulez in the commuteracted in london. but in those outer lorulez in the commuter towns, by ulez in the commuter towns, which tend to be more which do tend to be more conservative thinking by nature.

what they're worried about is, is what they're worried about is, telttg— what they're worried about is, telttg etern— what they're worried about is, islbig storm of— what they're worried about is, is big storm of labour in is a big storm of labour in eentret— is a big storm of labour in central london— is a big storm of labour in central london versus an independent— central london versus an independent candidate on the trtngee— independent candidate on the trtngee et— independent candidate on the fringes of london. but it it weert— fringes of london. but it it would howard— fringes of london. but it it would howard cox be be a big eneegn— would howard cox be be a big eneegn neme— would howard cox be be a big enough name what the person i retttng— enough name what the person i terttng te— enough name what the person i was talking to said if someone ttte— was talking to said if someone we jeremy— was talking to said if someone like jeremy clarkson example like jeremy clarkson for example . teettet — like jeremy clarkson for example . teettet te — like jeremy clarkson for example , decided to stand— like jeremy clarkson for example , decided to stand as an independent— , decided to stand as an. independent—he , decided to stand as an- independent_he could , decided to stand as an- indepewinnt_he could , decided to stand as an- indepewin those-he could , decided to stand as an indepewin those outer he could , decided to stand as an indepewin those outer boroughsi easily win those outer boroughs . .tt— easily win those outer boroughs . .tt neett— easily win those outer boroughs . .tt neete te— easily win those outer boroughs . .it needs to be- easily win those outer boroughs . .it needs to be a- easily win those outer boroughs . .it needs to be a what. . but it needs to be a what about the labour former labour leader standing as an independent? he's been booted out parliamentary party. out of the parliamentary party. jeremy london mp jeremy corbyn. he's a london mp , london mayor candidate. it'd be fascinating because don't forget won the forget ken livingstone won the first contest an first mayoral contest as an independent, not against the official frank official labour candidate frank dobson. mean, he does have his dobson. i mean, he does have his followers, certainly that there might be an issue with him covering too of the same covering too much of the same ground as khan in central ground as sadiq khan in central london. what what sadiq khan's teette— london. what what sadiq khan's eeerte ee— london. what what sadiq khan's eeerte very— london. what what sadiq khan's eeerte veryt weew— i“ what what sadiq khan's people are very, very worried eteet— people are very, very worried eteet te— people are very, very worried eteet te eeme— people are very, very worried about is some sort of charismatic- about is some sort of charismatic personality taking on charismatic personality taking en sette— charismatic personality taking en settg tnen— charismatic personality taking on sadiq khan because sadiq khan . ne-e— on sadiq khan because sadiq khan . ne-e net— on sadiq khan because sadiq khan . ne-e net e— on sadiq khan because sadiq khan , he's not a lawyer. _ on sadiq khan because sadiq khan , he's not a lawyer. ti , he's not a lawyer. he's he's he , he's not a lawyer. he's he's te te— , he's not a lawyer. he's he's he he does things very

rigorously. but he he does things very rigorously . but charisma he he does things very rigorously. but charisma isn't ternete— rigorously. but charisma isn't ternete tne— rigorously. but charisma isn't perhaps the first— ” ig but charisma isn't perhaps the first adjective wee-t— perhaps the first adjective wee-t ee— perhaps the first adjective wee-t te — perhaps the first adjective you'd use to describe him so wet— you'd use to describe him so me te— you'd use to describe him so me te tne— you'd use to describe him so that is the danger for them so far a— that is the danger for them so ter . tnet— that is the danger for them so far , that threat— that is the danger for them so far , that threat doesn't really far, that threat doesn't really te— far, that threat doesn't really seem to have— far, that threat doesn't really seem to have emerged . /tit. seem to have emerged. you know, the seem to have emerged. you know, tte erter— seem to have emerged. you know, the other thing to remember about the next elections in london is for the first time in the history of this set of elections for the mayor it'll be under first past the post. the person who gets the most votes will win and there won't be any transfers and top ups that transfers and top ups and that means that potentially there could be a for someone could be a route for someone to come through the middle if perhaps jeremy corbyn were to stand split the labour vote, stand and split the labour vote, someone could come in through stand and split the labour vote, sonmiddle.uld come in through stand and split the labour vote, son middle. we come in through stand and split the labour vote, sonmiddle. we sawe in through stand and split the labour vote, son middle. we saw the through stand and split the labour vote, sonmiddle. we saw the greensl the middle. we saw the greens doing better than doing very well, better than expected time round. sadiq expected last time round. sadiq khan 50% in khan didn't get above 50% in that first round. unlike other labour mayors, unlike people like andy burnham, who soared ahead with huge approval ratings , sadiq khan didn't have that kind of hold over london in the last time that this election was up.and last time that this election was up. and people were surprised actually , that the conservative actually, that the conservative candidate did better than expected . so potentially it's expected. so potentially it's

not as much in the bag for the labour party as people might have thought , given this have thought, given this particular change of the voting system. and he's been around a long time. sadiq khan we've had wee 7— long time. sadiq khan we've had seven years, 7 or— long time. sadiq khan we've had seven years, 7 or 8— tit“tig . sadiq khan we've had seven years, 7 or 8 years. tnew-rt— seven years, 7 or 8 years. tnew-rt te — seven years, 7 or 8 years. they'll be running for a third term — they'll be running for a third term ent— they'll be running for a third term and people— they'll be running for a third term and people might just think ttme— term and people might just think ttme ter— term and people might just think ttme ter e— term and people might just think time for a change.— term and people might just think time for a change. they might net. — time for a change. they might net. ttee— time for a change. they might not. that said,— time for a change. they might not. that said, london- time for a change. they might not. “ not. that said, london really is a very, very labour city. it seems to be getting- seems to be getting more labour by seems to be getting more labour tw-weer.— seems to be getting more labour tw-weer. — seems to be getting more labour tw-weer. r— seems to be getting more labour tw-weer. r egree— seems to be getting more labour by-year. i agree with- seems to be getting more labour by year. 5tig by the year. i agree with tom that there is a chance under the new system the new voting system that if the labour vote got split and then a sort charismatic independent sort of charismatic independent candidate who was against ulez, for up for for example, who spoke up for the those boroughs around the for those boroughs around the for those boroughs around the of london, came in, the centre of london, came in, then is little chance then there is a little chance there pathway to victory there is a pathway to victory for someone who's not sadiq khan. i'm sitting khan. but from where i'm sitting it pretty narrow. boris it looks pretty narrow. boris johnson-persuadedj it looks pretty narrow. boris. johnson-persuaded to johnson could be persuaded to run—there's! run for his old job. there's a thought . there's a thought thought. there's a thought because going to be because he's not going to be prime minister, in my view. and he's opponent of the low he's a big opponent of the low emissions. he is, however , he emissions. he is, however, he mtgnt— emissions. he is, however, he mtgnt-twnt— emissions. he is, however, he might-burnt some- ti he is, however, he might burnt some bridges might have burnt some bridges wttn— might have burnt some bridges with metropolitan might have burnt some bridges with that metropolitan might have burnt some bridges with that heietropolitan might have burnt some bridges with that he carrieditan might have burnt some bridges with that he carried 50] london. that he carried so neewtrw— london. that he carried so neewtrw tn— london. that he carried so heavily in 2008. and 2012. teeteree— heavily in 2008. and 2012. ternete ne-e— heavily in 2008. and 2012. perhaps he's burnt those bridges

by teeemtng— perhaps he's burnt those bridges by teeemtng tne— perhaps he's burnt those bridges by becoming the non london enemtten— by becoming the non london champion, the— by becoming the non london champion, the red wall champion . teeteree— champion, the red wall champion . ternete ne-e— champion, the red wall champion . perhaps he's no— champion, the red wall champion . perhaps he's no longer the guy for . perhaps he's no longer the guy ter tnet— . perhaps he's no longer the guy ter tnet .— . perhaps he's no longer the guy ter tnet . tet— . perhaps he's no longer the guy for that . but the— . perhaps he's no longer the guy for that . but the other the for that. but the other the erter— for that. but the other the etner gang,— for that. but the other the other thing, of— for that. but the other the other thing, of course, is that tne— other thing, of course, is that tte-entw- other thing, of course, is that tte-enew te- other thing, of course, is that the entry to become the barrier to entry to become a eentttete— the barrier to entry to become a eentttete. te— the barrier to entry to become a candidate, to get— the barrier to entry to become a candidate, to get on that ballot is candidate, to get on that ballot te rerettwerw— candidate, to get on that ballot is relatively low.— candidate, to get on that ballot is relatively low. the number of eentttetee— is relatively low. the number of candidates that— is relatively low. the number of candidates that stood last time nege. — candidates that stood last time nege. tee— candidates that stood last time was huge. you had two youtubers etenttng— was huge. you had two youtubers etenttng ee— was huge. you had two youtubers etenttng ee tete— was huge. you had two youtubers standing as joke candidates. tnet-e— standing as joke candidates. tnet-e rtgtt— standing as joke candidates. that's right. you had an enormous number of sort of start up enormous number of sort of start et eentee— enormous number of sort of start et terttee tter— enormous number of sort of start up parties that were all sort of etngre— up parties that were all sort of etngre teeee— up parties that were all sort of single issue. the— up parties that were all sort of single issue. the ballot paper weew— single issue. the ballot paper werw .— single issue. the ballot paper werw . very— single issue. the ballot paper was very , very long. so for an was very, very long. so for an tntetentent— was very, very long. so for an independent candidate to get the ettentten— independent candidate to get the ettentten te— independent candidate to get the attention is quite— independent candidate to get the attention is quite fancy. it weert— attention is quite fancy. it weert te— attention is quite fancy. it would be required , would be would be required, would be gette— would be required, would be gette tenew. — would be required, would be quite fancy. the— would be required, would be quite fancy. i“5“ ”ti quite fancy. the manifesto are we having the manifesto? no, i'm excited by howard cox— “rig 7 no, i'm excited by howard cox taking on this excited by howard cox taking on we teeeeee— excited by howard cox taking on this because i— excited by howard cox taking on this because i think if nothing eree— this because i think if nothing etee .— this because i think if nothing etee . tt— this because i think if nothing etee . tt ne— this because i think if nothing else , if he doesn't get elected, else, if he doesn't get elected, he else, if he doesn't get elected, ne wtrr— else, if he doesn't get elected, he will raise— else, if he doesn't get elected, he will raise awareness of the terme— he will raise awareness of the nerme et— he will raise awareness of the nerme et tne— he will raise awareness of the harms of the ulez of the low trette— harms of the ulez of the low traffic neighbourhoods and what tnew-re—tnet- they're doing to people that eennet— they're doing to people that. cannot—their cannot afford to upgrade their enengtng— cannot afford to upgrade their cars. changing fundamentally the treeteme— cars. changing fundamentally the treeteme-we— cars. changing fundamentally the freedoms-we have- cars. changing fundamentally the freedoms we have to move freedoms that we have to move eeent— freedoms that we have to move weent-etw.— freedoms that we have to move around-city.-can- freedoms that we have to move around-city.-can cuti around our city. if you can cut tnreegn— around our city. if you can cut weew-tnee— around our city. if you can cut through that, olivia, i'm through with that, olivia, i'm all

through with that, olivia, i'm err—wttn- through with that, olivia, i'm all—with that| through with that, olivia, i'm. all—with that . all right. i'm okay with that. were— all right. i'm okay with that. were-ent— all right. i'm okay with that. were-ent r— all right. i'm okay with that. well,-and 1 think- all right. i'm okay with that. well,-and i think therel all right. i'm okay with that. i well,-and i think there is well, yeah, and i think there is definitely a benefit in having, as barrier to as tom says, the barrier to entry is very low, but entry is, is very low, but having different having lots of different candidates all candidates who speak up for all sorts different issues tends sorts of different issues tends to the mayoral election to make the mayoral election relatively interesting. and obviously a obviously london is such a pluralistic city that it is quite good to have all sorts of different voices. we need a enenge. — different voices. we need a change. we need a change. we really do. definitely we're going to take a little- ”ti5..y titit iti “ ciieg we're going to take a little change, tet— going to take a little change, tet ten-t— going to take a little change, tet ten-t ge— going to take a little change, but don't go anywhere. still to tte— but don't go anywhere. still to tt-e tne— but don't go anywhere. still to come, it's the archbishop versus the come, it's the archbishop versus tte—ee— come, it's the archbishop versus tte—ee reettn- come, it's the archbishop versusi the—as justin welby the government, as justin welby etwte— the government, as justin welby eteee—tette- the government, as justin welby starts _ battle with - starts a political battle with wemter— starts a political battle with. wemter—tnte starts a political battle with- number_this is number 10 over migrants. this is to number 10 over migrants. this is te tne— number 10 over migrants. this is te tne remt— to the point

news radio. .i “rig it's news radio. good morning. it's ttte.— news radio. good morning. it's trtt- tee— news radio. good morning. it's 1128. you're with— news radio. good morning. it's 1128. you're with gb— news radio. .i “rig it's 1128. you're with gb news to the rent— 1128. you're with gb news to the tetnt wttn— 1128. you're with gb news to the tetnt wttn me— 1128. you're with gb news to the point with me. bev— 1128. you're with gb news to the point with me. bev turner and antrew— point with me. bev turner and andrew pierce— point with me. bev turner and andrew pierce people have been getttng— andrew pierce people have been getttng tn— andrew pierce people have been getting in touch. _ andrew pierce people have been getting in touch. “tiy r getting in touch. they certainly have. they certainly have. a lot of people are very cross about the archbishop of canterbury poking the great poking his nose in the great migrant. i can't him. i'm migrant. i can't bear him. i'm sorry, can't spend time sorry, i can't spend much time with yeah i had lunch with with him. yeah i had lunch with him. it wasn't a great success.

it wasn't a great success. it was at lambeth palace, his official residence , which is official residence, which is a very nice place. and he spent most of it slagging off the daily mail, knowing work for daily mail, knowing i work for the daily mail, all becomes clear. i thought there was a bit of clear. i thought there was a bit et e— clear. i thought there was a bit et e ttt— clear. i thought there was a bit et e ttt e— clear. i thought there was a bit et e ttt e ttt— clear. i thought there was a bit of a bit a bit history— r i thought there was a bit of a bit a bit history in his teeteterw. — of a bit a bit history in his backstory. to— of a bit a bit history in his backstory. to your dislike of reettn— backstory. to your dislike of reettn wettw— backstory. to your dislike of justin welby church attendance in justin welby church attendance tn—tn— justin welby church attendance tn—tn-enwenl justin welby church attendance in_in-church is| in this country in the church is at in this country in the church is et—rew.— in this country in the church is et—rew. - in this country in the church is at_low. churchesl at an all time low. churches are closing all over the country and you've an archbishop of you've got an archbishop of canterbury wading house canterbury wading into the house of politically, of lords today politically, calling the government's policy immoral to try to move refugees to rwanda to try and stop the illegal trade across the channel. it is not immoral. it's just a desperate attempt to solve the situation. do you think solve the situation. do you tntnt teeete— solve the situation. do you think people don't- solve the situation. do you think people don't go- i“ do you think people don't go to church, tneegn— think people don't go to church, though, because— think people don't go to church, though, because of what he says eteet— though, because of what he says about migrants? _ though, because of what he says about migrants? t/ti5r about migrants? yes, i think tnew— about migrants? yes, i think they don't go to church because they don't go to church because they welby they look at people like welby and there's no spiritual leadership. okay where's the spiritual from spiritual leadership from him? yes, he would. is he inspirational? well, he would say inspirational? well, he would eew tte— inspirational? well, he would eew we r— inspirational? well, he would say it's i mean,— inspirational? well, he would say it's i mean, this- inspirational? well, he would say it's i mean, this is- 7 well, he would say it's i mean, this is what i newe— say it's i mean, this is what i newe e— say it's i mean, this is what i have a problem— say it's i mean, this is what i have a problem with. fine. have a problem with. he's fine. terr— have a problem with. he's fine. tell-unethical- have a problem with. he's fine. tell-unethical ,- have a problem with. he's fine. tell unethical , but tell tell us it's unethical, but tell us tell us it's unethical, but tell ee tne— tell us it's unethical, but tell

us the alternative. quite tell us the alternative. quite tell ee— terrl us the alternative. quite tell ee— terr eei us what's unethical. tell us eteet— us what's unethical. tell us eteet tne— us what's unethical. tell us about the morality . we saw about the morality. we saw tttenert— about the morality. we saw richard drax,— about the morality. we saw richard drax, the mp that was in this richard drax, the mp that was in ttte-teet— richard drax, the mp that was in ttte—teet e— richard drax, the mp that was in this- just a little- this morning, just a little eerrter. — this morning, just a little eerrter. lwee— this morning, just a little earlier. you missed it, catch earlier. if you missed it, catch up earlier. if you missed it, catch et en— earlier. if you missed it, catch et en tne— earlier. if you missed it, catch et en tne ett— earlier. if you missed it, catch up on the app because it was a trtrttent— up on the app because it was a brilliant-great- brilliant interview. great ipp wnet— brilliant interview. great ipp what- interview. l brilliant interview. great ipp. what-interview. she what a brilliant interview. she eewe— what a brilliant interview. she eewe ne— what a brilliant interview. she eewe ne|meen— what a brilliant interview. she says no, mean, was says no, i mean, he was trttttent— says no, i mean, he was brilliant-not- says no, i mean, he wasl brilliant.-not-we says no, i mean, he was- brilliant.-not-we were brilliant. not not that we were trttttent— brilliant. not not that we were trttttent-ne- brilliant. not not that we were brilliant,-he said- brilliant. not not that we were brilliant, he said was brilliant, but what he said was eettw— brilliant, but what he said was really insightful— brilliant, but what he said was really insightful to be in energe— really insightful to be in charge constituency really insightful to be in chargethey're constituency really insightful to be in chargethey're having:uency really insightful to be in chargethey're having:uen boat where they're having the boat wttn— where they're having the boat with .migrants,- where they're having the boat. with .migrants,-that's with 500 migrants, a boat that's etre— with 500 migrants, a boat that's ette te— with 500 migrants, a boat that's ette te neeee— with 500 migrants, a boat that's able to house about 200, and the etteet— able to house about 200, and the etteet tter— able to house about 200, and the effect that might— able to house about 200, and the effect that might have on his teeer— effect that might have on his local community. tell me what's etnteet— local community. tell me what's ethical about— local community. tell me what's ethical about that— local community. tell me what's ethical about that ?_ local community. tell me what's ethical about that ? the local ethical about that? the local eeerte. — ethical about that? the local eeetre. tet— ethical about that? the local people. but but— ethical about that? the local people. but but but- ethical about that? the local people. ti.“-”ti“ people. but but but the church person. i'd listen to more is the archbishop of rwanda, who is a former refugee who says the policy is not immoral and he supports it and he lives in and he lives in rwanda and he has been a refugee. he was a refugee dunng been a refugee. he was a refugee during the great genocide in the 90s in rwanda. i think he's got more, more , more authority here more, more, more authority here than the old etonian. justin welby , some breaking news from welby, some breaking news from the high court. the publisher of

the high court. the publisher of me tttrrer— the high court. the publisher of the mirror newspaper— “ rig“ ti.tit- ”. the publisher of the mirror newspaper has etmtttet— the mirror newspaper has admitted that— the mirror newspaper has admitted that there is some ewttenee— admitted that there is some ewttenee et— admitted that there is some evidence of unlawful information getnertng— evidence of unlawful information gathering-relation— evidence of unlawful information gathering relation to a high gathering in relation to a high teen— gathering in relation to a high court challenge— gathering in relation to a high court challenge brought by the tete— court challenge brought by the duke _warrantsl duke of sussex that warrants compensation— duke of sussex that warrants compensation . _ duke of sussex that warrants compensation . “ ”. compensation. in court documents released at the start of the trial in london mirror group newspapers says it unreservedly apologises for instances of unlawful information gathering, which publisher says will which the publisher says will never repeated. that's right. never be repeated. that's right. the never be repeated. that's right. tte—term — never be repeated. that's right. tte—term tert- never be repeated. that's right. the—form part of- never be repeated. that's right.j the _form part of the the statements form part of the eetrtener-e— the statements form part of the publisher's—claims. publisher's defence to claims treegnt— publisher's defence to claims treegnt-ent- publisher's defence to claims brought and other brought by harry and other individuals— brought by harry and other individuals over alleged enrewtet— individuals over alleged unlawful information gathering at unlawful information gathering et wett— unlawful information gathering et ttett tttre— unlawful information gathering at mgm title us. _ unlawful information gathering at mgm title us. we're going to trtng— at mgm title us. we're going to trtng wee— at mgm title us. we're going to trtng wee mere— at mgm title us. we're going to bring you more on— at mgm title us. we're going to bring you more on that in just a mement — bring you more on that in just a moment. that's— bring you more on that in just a moment. that's going to cost tnem — moment. that's going to cost tnem e— moment. that's going to cost tnem e ret— moment. that's going to cost tnem e tet et— moment. that's going to cost them a lot of money. t/ti5“ them a lot of money. yeah, tnew-we— them a lot of money. yeah, they've already been. they've already out to money other already paid out to money other people who alleged there was phone and of course, we phone hacking and of course, we shouldn't forget the name that's involved in all this. piers morgan editor of the daily morgan was editor of the daily mirror. during some of mirror. i think during some of these alleged well, he was editor daily mirror for a editor of the daily mirror for a very time. i'd like very long time. well, i'd like to he's saying about to know what he's saying about it, blocked on it, but he's blocked me on twitter, read it now. twitter, so i can't read it now. still to come, there's a call to teette— still to come, there's a call to tackle britain's— still to come, there's a call to tackle britain's so—called

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went to the point on gb news as well. “ “rig -5 tigtit well. joining us now to go through the day's top stories is columnist and political commentator patrick o'flynn and director of common sense director of the common sense society, emma webb. society, motty emma webb. all right. about right. we've been talking about immigration in this country this morning. patrick and the fact that immigration is that the immigration bill is going to go through the house of lords. going some lords. it's going to hit some stumbles on the way, no doubt. i think what's happening in america is going our america is going to make our situation look like small fry. so this is title 42, which is basically loses its power tomorrow. what is this going to mean for american the american situation in terms of illegal immigration ? well, it's a very immigration? well, it's a very tntereettng— immigration? well, it's a very interesting parallel— tig”5. tit“7 well, it's a very interesting parallel because tttre— interesting parallel because me at— interesting parallel because me at en— interesting parallel because title 42 on medical grounds eteet— title 42 on medical grounds about preventing covid spreading kind about preventing covid spreading ttnt et— about preventing covid spreading kind of achieved— about preventing covid spreading kind of achieved very quickly artte— kind of achieved very quickly attte wnet— kind of achieved very quickly albie what the— kind of achieved very quickly albie what the government here wente— albie what the government here wente te— albie what the government here wente te te— albie what the government here wants to be able— albie what the government here wants to be able to achieve with its wants to be able to achieve with tte trreger— wants to be able to achieve with its illegal migration bill, wnten— its illegal migration bill, wnten te— its illegal migration bill, which is the— its illegal migration bill, which is the right to expel very getettw— which is the right to expel very quickly people— which is the right to expel very quickly people who have arrived trregertw. — quickly people who have arrived trregerrw. u...— quickly people who have arrived illegally. now, the medical greente— illegally. now, the medical grounds obviously lapsing in the us grounds obviously lapsing in the us ent— grounds obviously lapsing in the us ent tne— grounds obviously lapsing in the us and the scale— grounds obviously lapsing in the us and the scale of what they're teetng— us and the scale of what they're teetng .— us and the scale of what they're teetng . wee— us and the scale of what they're facing , you know,— us and the scale of what they're facing , you know, many, many facing, you know, many, many tneeeente— facing, you know, many, many thousands of— facing, you know, many, many thousands of crossings per day,

i thousands of crossings per day, t tntnt— thousands of crossings per day, t tntnt ee— thousands of crossings per day, i think so far— thousands of crossings per day, i think so far crossing the meme— i think so far crossing the channel on— i think so far crossing the channel on the- i think so far crossing the channel on the small boats on the channel on the small boats on me weret— channel on the small boats on me weret tew— channel on the small boats on the worst day has— channel on the small boats on the worst day has been a little rott— the worst day has been a little rttt e— the worst day has been a little over 1000 a day— the worst day has been a little over 1000 a day for a country of over1000 a day for a country of ent— over 1000 a day for a country of our size and population density. tnet-e— our size and population density. tnet-e gette— our size and population density. that's quite something and unmanageable— that's quite something and unmanageable . but america could unmanageable. but america could be unmanageable. but america could te tn— unmanageable. but america could te tn treetng— unmanageable. but america could be in bracing for— unmanageable. but america could be in bracing for something 15 ttmee— be in bracing for something 15 ttmee tter— be in bracing for something 15 times that and— be in bracing for something 15 times that and it— be in bracing for something 15 times that and it just 14 or town— times that and it just 14 or rtttttn e— times that and it just 14 or 15,000in a day— times that and it just 14 or 15,000in a day crossing the teeter— 15,000in a day crossing the border from _ 15,000in a day crossing the border from mexico. that's that te— border from mexico. that's that te te— border from mexico. that's that seems to be perfectly possible. tnew-re— seems to be perfectly possible. they're literally— seems to be perfectly possible. they're literally queuing- seems to be perfectly possible. they're literally queuing now 20 deep to wait . and it seems they're literally queuing now 20 deep to wait. and it seems and it deep to wait. and it seems and tr eeeme— deep to wait. and it seems and tr tnet— deep to wait. and it seems and it seems that the— i . and it seems and it seems that the american gewernment— it seems that the american government are— it seems that the american government are actually eneeeregtng— government are actually encouraging them to do so. yes. so encouraging them to do so. yes. se tte— encouraging them to do so. yes. se tt-e e— encouraging them to do so. yes. so it's a strange— encouraging them to do so. yes. so it's a strange situation. it tnet— so it's a strange situation. it tnet .— so it's a strange situation. it seems that . so— so it's a strange situation. it seems that . so there's this idea seems that. so there's this idea of seems that. so there's this idea et newtng— seems that. so there's this idea et newtng en— seems that. so there's this idea et newtng en ett— seems that. so there's this idea of having an app that would ertew— of having an app that would etrew teette— of having an app that would allow people to— of having an app that would allow people to have an alternative— allow people to have an alternative route to seek asylum in alternative route to seek asylum tn tne— alternative route to seek asylum tn tne etetee— alternative route to seek asylum in the states. but— alternative route to seek asylum in the states. but if you have , in the states. but if you have, you— in the states. but if you have, wee tnew.— in the states. but if you have, wee tnew. ee— in the states. but if you have, you know, as soon— in the states. but if you have, you know, as soon as this title 42 you know, as soon as this title at etttree— you know, as soon as this title at etttree te— you know, as soon as this title 42 expires is if— you know, as soon as this title 42 expires is if you— you know, as soon as this title 42 expires is if you then have at 42 expires is if you then have et teeet— 42 expires is if you then have at least, shall— 42 expires is if you then have at least, shall we— 42 expires is if you then have at least, shall we say, a mtmwn— at least, shall we say, a minimum of— at least, shall we say, a minimum of 13,000 people ereeetng— minimum of13,000 people ereeetng tne— minimum of 13,000 people crossing the border from mexico per crossing the border from mexico eer tew— crossing the border from mexico per day wee— crossing the border from mexico per day, you wouldn't want to me— per day, you wouldn't want to rtwe tn— per day, you wouldn't want to live in texas,— per day, you wouldn't want to live in texas, would you? i

mean, you don't- live in texas, would you? i mean, you don't necessarily know wte— mean, you don't necessarily know we tneee— mean, you don't necessarily know wne tneee teeete— mean, you don't necessarily know who these people are coming tne— who these people are coming across the border. we know that ttettee— across the border. we know that ttettee nee— across the border. we know that mexico has all— across the border. we know that mexico has all sorts of problems wttn— mexico has all sorts of problems wttn-ertme— mexico has all sorts of problems wttn-ertme .— mexico has all sorts of problems with-crime , drug- with serious crime, drug trafficking, _ with serious crime, drug trafficking, that kind of thing . se— trafficking, that kind of thing . se tt— trafficking, that kind of thing . se tt te— trafficking, that kind of thing . se tt te ee— trafficking, that kind of thing . so it is as as— trafficking, that kind of thing . so it is as as you were eewtng— . so it is as as you were sayingt tte— . so it is as as you were sayingt tt-e en— . so it is as as you were saying, it's an interest thing teretter— saying, it's an interest thing parallel with— saying, it's an interest thing parallel with the situation that we newe— parallel with the situation that we newe tere— parallel with the situation that we have here, because they are eree— we have here, because they are etee newtng— we have here, because they are etee newtng te— we have here, because they are also having to we're looking to een— also having to we're looking to eert et— also having to we're looking to eert et teet— also having to we're looking to sort of deal with.— also having to we're looking to sort of deal with. sorry to tntereett— sort of deal with. sorry to interrupt you,— sort of deal with. sorry to interrupt you, but we're looking at interrupt you, but we're looking et eeme— interrupt you, but we're looking et et— interrupt you, but we're looking at some of the— interrupt you, but we're looking at some of the pictures there of the at some of the pictures there of tte-ttere— at some of the pictures there of tte-ttere ee— at some of the pictures there of the there are literally the camps there are literally eemte— the camps there are literally eemte en— the camps there are literally eemte en tne— the camps there are literally camps on the border now of teette— camps on the border now of eeerte-werttng- camps on the border now of people waiting for this people just waiting for this exploration. _ people just waiting for this exploration. “ tigtit “rig exploration. this is going to be a donald trump who will a gift for donald trump who will is very strong about remember, build the wall, build the build the fence and i suppose in the american context, the conventional wisdom has been they're much more relaxed and open to immigration . as open to immigration. as a migrant nation, the- “ rig ”5.ti“ as a migrant nation, the american teeem— migrant nation, the american treem tne— migrant nation, the american dream, the statue of liberty , we dream, the statue of liberty, we eregen— dream, the statue of liberty, we eregen eteet— dream, the statue of liberty, we slogan about bring us your wnetewer— slogan about bring us your wnetewer tt— slogan about bring us your whatever it was— slogan about bring us your whatever it was dispossessed trem — whatever it was dispossessed trem eeent— whatever it was dispossessed from around the— whatever it was dispossessed from around the world. but in amertee— from around the world. but in amertee tee.— from around the world. but in america too. now— from around the world. but in america too. now the anxiety eteet— america too. now the anxiety eteet tne— america too. now the anxiety about the scale— america too. now the anxiety about the scale potentially of trreger— about the scale potentially of illegal migration from much teeter—

illegal migration from much poorer countries— illegal migration from much poorer countries , in their case poorer countries, in their case terew— poorer countries, in their case terew tne— poorer countries, in their case below the southern border is nege— below the southern border is nege ent— below the southern border is huge and donald trump has treetten— huge and donald trump has treetten en— huge and donald trump has traction on it— huge and donald trump has traction on it because donald treme— traction on it because donald tremt te— traction on it because donald tremt te ene— traction on it because donald trump is one of— traction on it because donald trump is one of the few people wte-e— trump is one of the few people we treteret— trump is one of the few people who's prepared to— trump is one of the few people who's prepared to say what the ewerege— who's prepared to say what the eeege ree— who's prepared to say what the average joe thinks about it. ant— average joe thinks about it. and obviously— average joe thinks about it. and obviously as— average joe thinks about it. and obviously as well,- average joe thinks about it. and obviously as well, because this is this title 42 is a pubuc this is this title 42 is a public health policy . it's not public health policy. it's not an explicitly migration policy, but by allowing this to expire and biden has recognised there's going to be chaos on the border, this is all going to be very disorganised. it's not going to be good for those living on the american of border. no, american side of the border. no, i fact that he hasn't i think the fact that he hasn't put robust in place to put anything robust in place to deal with this is really going to be a curse to the democratic party. is. whether party. certainly is. so whether it's trump or another it's donald trump or another candidate, is candidate, you know, this is going be and hasn't he going to be a gift and hasn't he put hapless vice president put his hapless vice president in charge of migration issues , in charge of migration issues, kamala harris, who can't string a sentence together at the best of times ? i mean, this is going of times? i mean, this is going to of times? i mean, this is going te-ttnten— of times? i mean, this is going te-ttnten ner— of times? i mean, this is going to-finish her off,- of times? i mean, this is going to-finish her off, isn't- to really finish her off, isn't it? to really finish her off, isn't rtt-wete— to really finish her off, isn't tte-were r— to really finish her off, isn't it?-well, 1 think- to really finish her off, isn't it? well, i think kamala it? yeah well, i think kamala tente— it? yeah well, i think kamala nerrte te— it? yeah well, i think kamala harris is tactic— it? yeah well, i think kamala harris is tactic to— it? yeah well, i think kamala harris is tactic to become treettent— harris is tactic to become president of— harris is tactic to become

president of the united states is president of the united states te teet— president of the united states te teet te— president of the united states te teet te te— president of the united states is just to be vice— president of the united states is just to be vice president egetn. — is just to be vice president egetn. were— is just to be vice president again. hope that- is just to be vice president again. i is just to be vice president again. g is just to be vice president- again. hope that biden gets in and then we build on him not lasting a term which not lasting a term which might not be worst strategy in the be the worst strategy in the world given her basic unelectability. yeah. yeah this is a huge story, though,- - i - .y t/ti5“ t/ti5“ this is a huge story, though, isn't it? is a huge story, though, isn't rtt wete— is a huge story, though, isn't it? well,-going- is a huge story, though, isn't it? well, going to be it? well, it's going to be interesting— it? well, it's going to be interesting see what interesting to see see what nettene. — interesting to see see what happens. ithink- interesting to see see what happens. i think it's fascinating that barely fascinating that it's barely made the american press. made it into the american press. yeah, has such a yeah, but biden has such a stranglehold. it feels on the american media that it's not really penetrating into the american press and barely here. i suspect it will, though, teeeeee— i suspect it will, though, teeeeee r— i suspect it will, though, because i think it's going to newe— because i think it's going to newe te— because i think it's going to have to .15,000- because i think it's going to have to .15,000 a - because i think it's going to have to 15,000 a day. ' “ti have to 13, 15,000 a day. and you— have to 13, 15,000 a day. and wee tnew.— have to 13, 15,000 a day. and wee tnewlttew— have to 13, 15,000 a day. and you know, they estimate that you know, if they estimate that it more. patrick, it will be a lot more. patrick, we remember when enlargement of the european union, we were going to have eastern europeans coming here. robin cook told us there'd be 15,000 from there'd be only 15,000 from poland there poland in the first year. there were of million were three quarters of a million absolutely lie. absolutely grotesque a lie. underestimate basic underestimate the basic attraction _ underestimate the basic attraction of— underestimate the basic attraction of moving to a high rtwtng— attraction of moving to a high living standard— attraction of moving to a high living standard country with a wertere— living standard country with a welfare state. _ living standard country with a welfare state. if— living standard country with a welfare state. if you're from a rew— welfare state. if you're from a tew rtwtng— welfare state. if you're from a low living standard country wttneet— low living standard country without that— low living standard country without that social protection, it's without that social protection, tt-e e— without that social protection, it's a massive— without that social protection, it's a massive draw. t/ti5“ it's a massive draw. yeah, eteereterw— it's a massive draw. yeah, absolutely interesting . we might

absolutely interesting. we might try and cover this again tomorrow , right, emma increasing tomorrow, right, emma increasing demands to address britain's catastrophic obesity crisis. 7000 needless diabetes deaths every year. this is i mean, it's a every year. this is i mean, it's eterrttrw— every year. this is i mean, it's eterrtttw eet— every year. this is i mean, it's a terribly sad story. _ tittig this is i mean, it's a terribly sad story. and this is a terribly sad story. and this te etwteeerw— a terribly sad story. and this is obviously got— a terribly sad story. and this is obviously got so much to do wttn— is obviously got so much to do wttn tne— is obviously got so much to do with the state— is obviously got so much to do with the state that the nhs is in with the state that the nhs is tn rt. — with the state that the nhs is in 15. diabetes— with the state that the nhs is in 15. diabetes deaths are up in15. diabetes deaths are up ttte— in15. diabetes deaths are up ttte en— in15. diabetes deaths are up ttte en reet— in15. diabetes deaths are up 15% on last year— in15. diabetes deaths are up 15% on last year .— in 15. diabetes deaths are up 15% on last year . and this is 15% on last year. and this is tnte— 15% on last year. and this is we re— 15% on last year. and this is we te tne— 15% on last year. and this is this is the it's— 15% on last year. and this is this is the it's been described as this is the it's been described ee tne— this is the it's been described as the fastest— this is the it's been described as the fastest growing health emergenew— as the fastest growing health emergency. and— as the fastest growing health emergency. and people are being left emergency. and people are being tett erene— emergency. and people are being tett erene te— emergency. and people are being left alone to basically manage tnetr— left alone to basically manage their diabetes— left alone to basically manage their diabetes .— left alone to basically manage their diabetes . a— left alone to basically manage their diabetes . a number of their diabetes. a number of teette— their diabetes. a number of eeerte eew— their diabetes. a number of people say many people saying tnet— people say many people saying we tnew— people say many people saying we tnew teet— people say many people saying that they feel that their ttetetee— that they feel that their diabetes rs— that they feel that their diabetes rs are not under eentret. — diabetes rs are not under control. they're- diabetes rs are not under control. they're struggling to eentret— control. they're struggling to control them.— control. they're struggling to control them. less than half of teette— control them. less than half of eeerte wttn— control them. less than half of people with diabetes received the people with diabetes received tne regeret— people with diabetes received the required checks in the last weer.— the required checks in the last weer. ant— the required checks in the last year. and there— the required checks in the last year. and there are also huge wertettene— year. and there are also huge variations regionally . so it's a variations regionally. so it's a teterrw— variations regionally. so it's a tetertw reet— variations regionally. so it's a totally luck of— variations regionally. so it's a totally luck of the draw if you netten— totally luck of the draw if you netten te— totally luck of the draw if you netten te twe— totally luck of the draw if you happen to live in— totally luck of the draw if you happen to live in an area where the happen to live in an area where tne neettn— happen to live in an area where the health system— happen to live in an area where the health system is, is working eeetetw— the health system is, is working ptopetlyt tnen— the health system is, is working properly, then you're much less

rtterw— properly, then you're much less rttetw te— properly, then you're much less rttetw te te— properly, then you're much less ttterw te te et— properly, then you're much less likely to be at risk— properly, then you're much less likely to be at risk in some tteeee— likely to be at risk in some treeee tt— likely to be at risk in some places it seems— likely to be at risk in some places it seems that people are teet— places it seems that people are teet een— places it seems that people are teet eert et— places it seems that people are just sort of being— places it seems that people are just sort of being left to their en-nt— just sort of being left to their en-nt tne- own devices and the complications diabetes complications of diabetes are reetrw— complications of diabetes are. reetrw—etner really quite serious. mean other men— really quite serious. mean other .r...-,_ really quite serious. mean other .r..._, et— really quite serious. mean other than-, of course.- really quite serious. mean other than , of course. problems really quite serious. mean other than eyesight tf course. problems really quite serious. mean other than eyesight problems droblems really quite serious. mean other than eyesight problems with ems really quite serious. mean other than eyesight problems with your with eyesight problems with your rtmte— with eyesight problems with your limbs, amputation, kidney tetwe— limbs, amputation, kidney failure, strokes, heart disease . se— failure, strokes, heart disease . se tnte— failure, strokes, heart disease . se we re— failure, strokes, heart disease . so this is really— failure, strokes, heart disease . so this is really serious. and eree— . so this is really serious. and etee tn— . so this is really serious. and also in addition— . so this is really serious. and also in addition to— . so this is really serious. and also in addition to that, lots of also in addition to that, lots et teette— also in addition to that, lots et eeerte wte— also in addition to that, lots of people who don't necessarily ewen-tter— of people who don't necessarily even -that they _ of people who don't necessarily even that they have even know that they have ttetetee. — even know that they have i diabetes. _further diabetes. so it's yet further treet— diabetes. so it's yet further treet-ans- diabetes. so it's yet further treet-ans te- diabetes. so it's yet further- proof-nhs is completely proof that the nhs is completely tetrtng— proof that the nhs is completely tetng-teette— proof that the nhs is completely tetrtng-teette et— proof that the nhs is completely failing people of this failing the people of this eeentrw— failing the people of this eeentrw. ant— failing the people of this country. and i- failing the people of this country. and i will keep nemmertng— country. and i will keep hammering it- country. and i will keep hammering it home. i think that we newe— hammering it home. i think that we newe e— hammering it home. i think that we have a universe, lack of neertn— we have a universe, lack of mem ee— we have a universe, lack of health care until- we have a universe, lack of health care until we sort this eet— health care until we sort this eet retner— health care until we sort this out rather universal health health care until we sort this out ifreer universal health health care until we sort this out ifreer the universal health health care until we sort this out ifreer the univerof. health health care until we sort this out ifreer the univerof entry.h care free at the point of entry. ateereterw. — care free at the point of entry. absolutely. well— care free at the point of entry. absolutely. well ,- care free at the point of entry. absolutely. well , i- care free at the point of entry. absolutely. �*rftt�*ti-- i absolutely. well, i would say it's slightly harsh to blame it's a slightly harsh to blame it's a slightly harsh to blame it the nhs because there's it on the nhs because there's a there's an element of personal risk facility. i'm risk. there is facility. i'm glad said and any glad you said that. and any health care system would struggle face of the struggle in the face of the proportion of the british people. now who for many years have no steps, no eating have taken no steps, no eating the wrong food , no exercise, the wrong food, no exercise, although of course the food industry pumps this it industry pumps this out, it perhaps not enough control . so perhaps not enough control. so one thing you can say about the

nhs model, i suppose, is it doesn't encourage personal responsibility because you can turn up quotes and get free, though it's not free for the tax payers treatment rather than having to make an investment in your own health. and because it's your own health. and because we ee— your own health. and because it's so overstretched,- and because it's so overstretched, it's very eeew— it's so overstretched, it's very eeew ter— it's so overstretched, it's very eeew ter teette— it's so overstretched, it's very easy for people to— it's so overstretched, it's very easy for people to fall off the wegen— easy for people to fall off the wegen ent— easy for people to fall off the wegen ent te— easy for people to fall off the wagon and to not— easy for people to fall off the wagon and to not the wagon and to not get the treetment— wagon and to not get the treatment that - wagon and to not get the treatment that they need to not get-eneete— treatment that they need to not get-eneete-tnew- treatment that they need to not get checks they need. get the checks that they need. tnet-e— get the checks that they need.j that's—shorter that's right. so it's a shorter show today, guys, because it's pmqs course. but thank you. pmqs of course. but thank you. patrick emma as patrick o'flynn, emma webb, as usual. patrick o'flynn, emma webb, as usual . right. it has flown by. usual. right. it has flown by. coming next is gb news live coming up next is gb news live with longhurst . this is with mark longhurst. this is point with andrew we'll point with andrew and we'll be back yeah, see back tomorrow at 930. yeah, see you then. all being well. hello wereeme— you then. all being well. hello wereeme te— you then. all being well. hello welcome to your latest gb news weather update. with me, annie shuttleworth from the met office. see more heavy office. we'll see more heavy showers the throughout showers across the uk throughout this afternoon, but will feel pretty warm in sunshine. but pretty warm in any sunshine. but it's still going to be quite an unsettled day and because unsettled day and that's because we've low pressure in charge we've got low pressure in charge for couple of days at for the next couple of days at least. but as we head into the weekend, we will start to see things settle down. but the area of pressure building

of low pressure is building showers the afternoon, showers through the afternoon, particularly across northern areas, western parts of areas, across western parts of scotland northern ireland. scotland and northern ireland. but see some quite but we'll also see some quite slow moving showers across northern and eastern areas of england to showers will move a little, move through a little quicker across the south—west so here we'll see the best of any sunshine . and in sunshine it sunshine. and in the sunshine it will warm , will feel quite warm, particularly across southern areas. of up about 19 areas. highs of up to about 19 degrees through this evening. showers will linger across the east, particularly east anglia could see some quite long lasting showers into this evening. and we'll more evening. and we'll see more persistent rain arrive into northern ireland and western scotland. but for many it will settle down, leaving a relatively dry night, some mist and fog around and temperatures around average for the time of year overnight. by the time we get to thursday morning. so thursday morning will start off a little drier though. we could see some cloud lingering around a little drier though. we could see some cloud lirain'ing around a little drier though. we could see some cloud lirain across>und a little drier though. we could see some cloud lirain across any and some drizzly rain across any high ground and some coastal areas . but high ground and some coastal areas. but once the sun high ground and some coastal areas . but once the sun gets areas. but once the sun gets going into the afternoon, we'll see showers, bubble up once

again. notice across the again. now, notice across the east particular is where east in particular is where we're going to see those showers developing into afternoon. developing into the afternoon. and last quite and they could last quite a while. risk of thunder while. there's a risk of thunder and too. but and hail in there, too. but again, in sunshine an it again, in any sunshine an it will relatively warm for will feel relatively warm for the time year. then through the time of year. then through thursday evening, once again , thursday evening, once again, we'll see showers continue, but this time across more western areas into parts of south wales and into southern counties will then start to see this low cloud from the north sea encroach into eastern areas. but across the west, as we look ahead to the weekend, it will turn drier and brighter. i'll see you later.

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