mankind. for the benefit of all mankind. and finally, and most importantly, i want to hear from you. views way. you. send your views my way. vaiews@gbnews.uk. that's all coming up after headlines with tatiana sanchez . lawrence, thank tatiana sanchez. lawrence, thank you and— tatiana sanchez. lawrence, thank you and good— tatiana sanchez. lawrence, thank you and good evening.— f lawrence, thank you and good evening. this is the— you and good evening. this is the latest— you and good evening. this is the latest from _ you and good evening. this is the latest from the newsroom. passengers— the latest from the newsroom. passengers have— the latest from the newsroom. passengers have faced widespread disruption— passengers have faced widespread disruption today— passengers have faced widespread disruption today due to the latest— disruption today due to the latest round— disruption today due to the latest round of— disruption today due to the latest round of train strikes . latest round of train strikes. members— latest round of train strikes. members ef— latest round of train strikes. members of the— latest round of train strikes. members of the aslef union are walking— members of the aslef union are walking-mere— members of the aslef union are walking-more than- members of the aslef union are walking more than a dozen walking out at more than a dozen trem— walking out at more than a dozen train operators— walking out at more than a dozen train operators in— walking out at more than a dozen train operators in long train operators in a long running— train operators in a long running dispute pay . running dispute over pay. tomorrow, rmt members go on seeke— tomorrow, rmt members go on strike en— tomorrow, rmt members go on strtte err tre— tomorrow, rmt members go on strike on the day— tomorrow, rmt members go on strike on the day of the eurovision_ strike on the day of the eurovision song contest final in ttrerpeet— eurovision song contest final in ttverpeet .— eurovision song contest final in liverpool . further— eurovision song contest final in liverpool . further strikes by liverpool. further strikes by the— liverpool. further strikes by the utter— liverpool. further strikes by the union will— liverpool. further strikes by the union will be held on the erst— the union will be held on the srst et— the union will be held on the srst et trey— the union will be held on the 31st of may and— the union will be held on the 31st of may and june 3rd. that's the day— 31st of may and june 3rd. that's the try et— 31st of may and june 3rd. that's the try et tree— 31st of may and june 3rd. that's the day of the fa— 31st of may and june 3rd. that's the day of the fa cup final in wemblev-_ the day of the fa cup final in wembley. rail— the day of the fa cup final in wembley. rail minister huw rrerrtmuu— wembley. rail minister huw merriman told— wembley. rail minister huw merriman told gb news the strttes— merriman told gb news the strttes ee— merriman told gb news the strikes are disappointing . �*ftt�*rz; strikes are disappointing. we true— strikes are disappointing. we true teen— strikes are disappointing. we have been able— strikes are disappointing. we have been able to— strikes are disappointing. we have been able to facilitate an offer which has been put to the union leaders and the problem we've got is that they won't put it forward to their members. similar offers have put similar offers have been put forward members of forward to other members of unions accepted unions and they've accepted

them. logic would dictate if them. so logic would dictate if them. so logic would dictate if the union leaders did the same, we could see an end to this action. and i'm really sorry for all passengers been all passengers who have been disrupted today. meanwhile, ttstt— disrupted today. meanwhile, ttstt suret— disrupted today. meanwhile, rishi sunak says— disrupted today. meanwhile, rishi sunak says he's- rishi sunak says he's disappointed with the decision to disappointed with the decision te treet— disappointed with the decision to block ukrainian president vtettmtr— to block ukrainian president vladimir zelenskyy from ettresstug— vladimir zelenskyy from addressing the eurovision song contest. — addressing the eurovision song contest. rte— addressing the eurovision song contest. the block is due to concerns from _ contest. the block is due to concerns from organisers that an address— concerns from organisers that an address eeutt— concerns from organisers that an address could politicise the event— address could politicise the event .— address could politicise the event . rte— address could politicise the event . the ukrainian president event. the ukrainian president wettest— event. the ukrainian president weutet te— event. the ukrainian president wanted to urge— event. the ukrainian president wanted to urge the global uutteuee— wanted to urge the global audience to— wanted to urge the global audience to continue supporting his audience to continue supporting tts country— audience to continue supporting his country against russia's invasion. the— his country against russia's invasion. the european broadcasting- invasion. the european broadcasting union says it's terrest— broadcasting union says it's ugutnst tre— broadcasting union says it's against the rules as labour teeter— against the rules as labour teeter str— against the rules as labour leader sir keir— against the rules as labour leader sir keir starmer has tuststet— leader sir keir starmer has insisted his— leader sir keir starmer has insisted his party takes allegations— insisted his party takes allegations of sexual harassment extremetu— allegations of sexual harassment extremely seriously . it follows extremely seriously. it follows reports— extremely seriously. it follows reports or— extremely seriously. it follows reports an internal investigation into one case of groping— investigation into one case of groptrsg storms— investigation into one case of groping claims took three years to eomptete. — groping claims took three years to oomptete. ru— groping claims took three years to complete. in a— groping claims took three years to complete. in a separate case, a to complete. in a separate case, o totour— to complete. in a separate case, o totour rur— to complete. in a separate case, a labour mp has— to complete. in a separate case, a labour mp has reported one of her potty— a labour mp has reported one of her party colleagues to the oottee— her party colleagues to the pottee tor— her party colleagues to the police for alleged sexual ossoutt— police for alleged sexual ossoutt .— police for alleged sexual assault. sir— police for alleged sexual assault. sir keir starmer is urging— assault. sir keir starmer is urgtng nyone— assault. sir keir starmer is urging anyone within the party nttn— urging anyone within the party with concerns— urging anyone within the party with concerns to— urging anyone within the party with concerns to come forward. wett—

with concerns to come forward. rrett toot,— with concerns to come forward. rrett toot, r— with concerns to come forward. well look, i think— with concerns to come forward. well look, i think all of these ottegottons— well look, i think all of these allegations have— well look, i think all of these allegations have to be taken extrenety— allegations have to be taken extremely seriously and they are token— extremely seriously and they are taken seriously— extremely seriously and they are taken seriously by— extremely seriously and they are taken seriously by me and by the partv- — taken seriously by me and by the pony. r— taken seriously by me and by the pony. r to— taken seriously by me and by the party. i do understand- taken seriously by me and by the party. c. party. i do understand from my experience as chief prosecutor how difficult it is for people to come forward . and that's to come forward. and that's among the reasons that we made our process completely independent. so it's not a political process anymore. what i would say is that i encourage anybody to come forward and to feel that their supported through that independent process . a man has been convicted of tne— . a man has been convicted of tne reste— . a man has been convicted of the 1992 murder— . a man has been convicted of the 1992 murder of— a man has been convicted of the 1992 murder of seven year old the 1992 murder of seven year ott utttt— the 1992 murder of seven year old nikki allen— the 1992 murder of seven year old nikki allen in— the 1992 murder of seven year old nikki allen in sunderland. 55 old nikki allen in sunderland. st year— old nikki allen in sunderland. st year ott— old nikki allen in sunderland. 55 year old david— old nikki allen in sunderland. 55 year old david boyd was neonne— 55 year old david boyd was neonne o— 55 year old david boyd was neonne o t— 55 year old david boyd was wearing a t shirt saying, i am unstoppatte— wearing a t shirt saying, i am unstoppable. during one of his nonse— unstoppable. during one of his police interviews— unstoppable. during one of his police interviews until now. 30 years— police interviews until now. 30 years net— police interviews until now. 30 years on, he'd escaped justice. uortnuntno— years on, he'd escaped justice. northumbria police first prosecuted— northumbria police first prosecuted the wrong man who was steered— prosecuted the wrong man who was oteoret otter— prosecuted the wrong man who was oteoret otter o— prosecuted the wrong man who was cleared after a trial— prosecuted the wrong man who was cleared after a trial in 1993 . cleared after a trial in 1993. ant— cleared after a trial in 1993. ant tron— cleared after a trial in 1993. and elon musk— cleared after a trial in 1993. and elon musk has named linda roeeonno— and elon musk has named linda roeeonno os— and elon musk has named linda yaccarino as the— and elon musk has named linda

yaccarino as the new ceo at nutter— yaccarino as the new ceo at tuttter ,— yaccarino as the new ceo at twitter , following over six twitter, following over six nontns— twitter, following over six nontns ot— twitter, following over six months of his— twitter, following over six months of his leadership. musk tneetet— months of his leadership. musk tneetet tne— months of his leadership. musk tweeted the former nbc universal otventstng— tweeted the former nbc universal advertising chief— tweeted the former nbc universal advertising chief will focus pnnonty— advertising chief will focus pnnontyon— advertising chief will focus primarily on business operations unttst— primarily on business operations unttst ne— primarily on business operations whilst he will— primarily on business operations whilst he will take on the new rote— whilst he will take on the new rote os— whilst he will take on the new role as chief— whilst he will take on the new role as chief technology officer . tne— role as chief technology officer . tne ne— role as chief technology officer . the new boss— role as chief technology officer . the new boss will start her rote— . the new boss will start her rote tn— . the new boss will start her rote tn str— . the new boss will start her role in six weeks— . the new boss will start her role in six weeks time . tv role in six weeks time. tv onttne— role in six weeks time. tv online dab+_ role in six weeks time. tv online dab+ radio and on tune in. online dab+ radio and on tune tn. tnts— online dab+ radio and on tune tn. tnts ts— online dab+ radio and on tune tn. tnts ts en— online dab+ radio and on tune in. this is gb news. now it's toot— in. this is gb news. now it's test to— in. this is gb news. now it's back to lawrence— in. this is gb news. now it's back to lawrence . back to lawrence. i many— back to lawrence. i many moons- back to lawrence. many moons ago, before the world into full bozo the world went into full bozo the clown mode , we were mostly in clown mode, we were mostly in agreement that the kind and caring labour party existed to fight for the rights of the working man and woman whilst the greedy and uncaring conservative party existed to lounge around bathing in calves, milk and quaffing flutes of pol roger as

the poor starved to death . this the poor starved to death. this delicate balance held society together pretty well because it tended to encapsulate most of the political spectrum. and if you found yourself to be politically fluid and weren't sure how you identified on any given day, there was always the lib dems. but our friends in the real communism hasn't been tried yet. crew are nothing if not resilient in their desire to immiserate the entirety of mankind and one day they came up with a cunning plan. what if they schemed to themselves instead of harping on about socioeconomic and class divides which are real and debilitating societal problems? what if we create a new grievance hierarchy based solely around skin colour? we can stick the terribly white people at the top and the terribly black people at the bottom. then then wherever you go, you'll be able to tell how oppressed someone is just by looking at them. they all patted themselves on the back and returned to their favourite task of civilisation of dismantling civilisation as we . there were a few

we know it. there were a few snagging issues though too. this cunning plan one being where to put someone like oprah winfrey or meghan markle or lewis hamilton on the list. or meghan markle or lewis hamilton on the list . privileged hamilton on the list. privileged black people who have through hard work in some cases, and narcissistic gaslighting in others won the lottery of life. where do they fit on this giant grievance hierarchy compared to, say, a supremely white, privileged working class kid from rotherham who will never go to university and whose life opportunities are now bleaker than owing to the fact that than ever owing to the fact that bonng than ever owing to the fact that boring old things like social mobility have given way to the power melanin . meghan and power of melanin. meghan and louis and oprah are still oppressed , even though they are oppressed, even though they are million billionaires . yes, million and billionaires. yes, comes resounding reply. you comes a resounding reply. you have the mystical white privilege, you see, and if you don't see it, then guess what? altogether now you're a racist. this cunning plan took britain quite by surprise. britain being a mostly tolerant , a mostly tolerant, accommodating, rather polite place , frequently ranking as one

place, frequently ranking as one of the loveliest countries to live in on earth. just last week, we got a clean bill of anti racist health from the world values study. well done us. so when master racism finder after the good dr. shola plonked herself on any morning tv sofa that would have her and started conjuring racism out of thin air decent hearted brits couldn't fall over themselves fast enough to apologise profusely for whatever she was moaning, was moaning , was whatever she was moaning, was moaning, was racist that whatever she was moaning, was moaning , was racist that week. moaning, was racist that week. then when they dutifully proceeded to queue up round the block for unconscious bias bias training, looking deeply into their hearts to see if they were actually racist, but hadn't spotted it yet . the grift has spotted it yet. the grift has gathered pace and an entire new class of non—job race commissars infiltrated our national institutions and corporations to make sure that the exact amount of diversity was enforced in all areas of life. and when i say diversity, i don't mean the fun kind, like what goes on in your heart and your soul. i mean, the

really terribly boring kind. like what colour your skin happened to be when you were born. skin, good light born. dark skin, good light skin, bad . and just like that, skin, bad. and just like that, the entire meritocratic system upon which society had previously depended vanished and was replaced with racialism . was replaced with racialism. it's exactly the same as communism or socialism. it's just uses skin colour to get to the utopia instead . us the the utopia instead. us the illusion of capitalism remains. but what dominates is the power and the control where a black woman can sit smugly on a chair overlooking the paris during the coronation, spouting racist drivel about how terribly white the balcony was to mostly nodding fawning fools terribly white. what an appalling thing to say . she won't be sanctioned to say. she won't be sanctioned in any way . there will be no in any way. there will be no apologies forthcoming . the bbc apologies forthcoming. the bbc nortje thon will go absolutely . nortje thon will go absolutely. but here's an idea. nortje thon will go absolutely. but here's an idea . try swapping but here's an idea. try swapping the word black for white and see how you get on with some of their terminology . how's how you get on with some of their terminology. how's your black privilege coming along?

you're just full of black fragility and bored of your black tears. you know what i mean? get the drift. racism so, right. where do we go from here? the ever simmering resentment at this subjugation of one part of the population to another. what about black people who don't want to play ball with this racist claptrap? jim crow in reverse ridiculousness foisted upon by middle class, upon everybody by middle class, white, liberal, saviours ? well, white, liberal, saviours? well, there is some good news. as always, with friends on the always, with our friends on the left. they overreach and have left. they overreach and have left a rather large loophole in their inconsistent ideology that we are . suppressors can all hop we are. suppressors can all hop through . it's called identity through. it's called identity politics and you can identify how the hell you like. be a woman. if i wanted you can identify however you like in that clown world. so all of us are oppressors. all we need to do lob a sample of dna to one of the ancestry websites . cross the ancestry websites. cross your fingers, wait for the results , and there's every results, and there's every chance you'll be least 3. chance you'll be at least 3. ugandan buy yourself something a bit tribal . change your name to

bit tribal. change your name to a nosey bob's your uncle. we could put an end to this divisive rubbish in a minute or we could flip open a bible. go to acts 17, verse 26, and remind ourselves of the truth . and he ourselves of the truth. and he hath made of one blood all nafions hath made of one blood all nations of men . right? you're nations of men. right? you're watching, listening to gb news. coming up, i will be speaking with bushra sheikh and narinder kaur about race and identity politics. i have a feeling it could get quite heated. possibly, but next, ben habib, former london mayor former mep for london and mayor of member of of the reform party member of the party. not mayor ben the reform party. not mayor ben yet is talking staggering yet is talking about staggering migration figures. why can't we stop the boats back

listening to gb news radio. land ahoy. welcome back. new figures— land ahoy. welcome back. new ttgures ore— land ahoy. welcome back. new ttgures to— land ahoy. welcome back. new figures are to be— e�*i: welcome back. new figures are to be released later tnts— figures are to be released later tnts nontn— figures are to be released later this month that— figures are to be released later this month that could see net ntgrotton— this month that could see net ntgrotton ton. — this month that could see net migration top. just wait for it.

1 migration top. just wait for it. r ntttton— migration top. just wait for it. 1 million this— migration top. just wait for it. 1 million this year. the home otttee— 1 million this year. the home otttee ts— 1 million this year. the home office is preparing itself for new numbers— office is preparing itself for new numbers to surpass the nrevtous— new numbers to surpass the preytous pett— new numbers to surpass the previous peak of— new numbers to surpass the previous peak of 504,000 just natt— previous peak of 504,000 just not tron — previous peak of 504,000 just half from last— previous peak of 504,000 just half from last year. as experts are half from last year. as experts prettettne— half from last year. as experts are predicting ,_ half from last year. as experts are predicting , this figure are predicting, this figure eoutt— are predicting, this figure eoutt te— are predicting, this figure could be as— are predicting, this figure could be as high. are predicting, this figure could be as high . as 997,997. could be as high. as 997,997. wnotever. — could be as high. as 997,997. whatever. yeah— could be as high. as 997,997. whatever. yeah you know what i neon— whatever. yeah you know what i ueorty— whatever. yeah you know what i ueorty o— whatever. yeah you know what i mean? nearly a million. so why eon-t— mean? nearly a million. so why eon-t ne— mean? nearly a million. so why eon-t we stop— mean? nearly a million. so why can't we stop the— mean? nearly a million. so why can't we stop the boats? who is to none— can't we stop the boats? who is to ttone tor— can't we stop the boats? who is to blame for this— can't we stop the boats? who is to blame for this migrant ooess— to blame for this migrant madness to— to blame for this migrant madness to here stick his oar tnto— madness to here stick his oar tnto tne— madness to here stick his oar into the conversation is none otner— into the conversation is none otner tnon— into the conversation is none otner tnon o— into the conversation is none other than a member of the tetorn — other than a member of the tetorn tony— other than a member of the tetorn torty .— other than a member of the reform party . and former mep for reform party. and former mep for tonoon— reform party. and former mep for tonoon ten— reform party. and former mep for london, ben obe— reform party. and former mep for london, ben obe ._ reform party. and former mep for london, ben obe . ben, before we london, ben obe. ben, before we get to— london, ben obe. ben, before we get to on— london, ben obe. ben, before we get to on migration— london, ben obe. ben, before we get to on migration madness . get to on migration madness. totes— get to on migration madness. atex tnttttos— get to on migration madness. alex phillips yeah , lovely, alex phillips yeah, lovely, tovety— alex phillips yeah, lovely, toyety tooy. — alex phillips yeah, lovely, lovely lady. “43?" alex phillips yeah, lovely, lovely lady, “41:6“ sat alex phillips yeah, lovely, lovely lady. “43?" sat there. lovely lady. yeah. sat there. wnot— lovely lady. yeah. sat there. wnot os— lovely lady. yeah. sat there. wnot rte— lovely lady. “43?" sat there. what was it? politics lovely lady. / sat there. what was it? politics live on newsurent— what was it? politics live on newsnight or— what was it? politics live on newsnight or something like ttot— newsnight or something like tnot. wnot— newsnight or something like that. what was— newsnight or something like that. what was it? newsnight rye— that. what was it? newsnight i've seen men behave like that in i've seen men behave like that tn-orot— i've seen men behave like that tn-orot noto— i've seen men behave like that in-grab hold of- i've seen men behave like that in grab hold of women's in bars, grab hold of women's to— in bars, grab hold of women's to stut— in bars, grab hold of women's arms to shut up.— in bars, grab hold of women's arms to shut up. we're going none.— arms to shut up. we're going none. rye— arms to shut up. we're going home. i've seen— arms to shut up. we're going home. i've seen it. and you're ute— home. i've seen it. and you're tttelyou— home. i've seen it. and you're “key-you tfiling- like, oh, you trying to intervene?— like, oh, you trying to- intervene?-campbell intervene? alistair campbell seems-tong— seems to be doing this on tetevtston— seems to be doing this on television . _ seems to be doing this on television . oh,- seems to be doing this on television . o" seems to be doing this on- television . oh,-know, funny television. oh, you know, funny enough, been on with enough, i've been on with alastair a few times

alastair campbell a few times and he's always been very congenial with but and he's always been very con behaviour with but and he's always been very con behaviour last with but and he's always been very con behaviour last nighti but and he's always been very con behaviour last night was but his behaviour last night was completely out of order. alex was very upset was very, very upset and apparently stuff went after apparently stuff went on after they got off . he's still going they got off. he's still going at it. i've been watching it on soetot— at it. i've been watching it on social media.— at it. i've been watching it on social media-still- l i've been watching it on social media. still going social media. he's still going at social media. he's still going ot-vou— social media. he's still going ot-vou oe- social media. he's still going at-you are this.- social media. he's still going at you are this. you at it, going. you are this. you tnot— at it, going. you are this. you tnot ts— at it, going. you are this. you are that is he.— at it, going. you are this. you are that is he. i— at it, going. you are this. you are that is he. i mean, this is are that is he. i mean, this is o tnot— are that is he. i mean, this is a man that sent— are that is he. i mean, this is a man that sent a— are that is he. i mean, this is a man that sent a million people to ore— a man that sent a million people to one or— a man that sent a million people to die or killed— a man that sent a million people to die or killed a— a man that sent a million people to die or killed a million people- — to die or killed a million people. yeah,- to die or killed a million people. / to die or killed a million people. “43?" to die or killed a million people. 411i?" to die or killed a million- people. yeah, well, he's part of that cabal that waged war, people. yeah, well, he's part of tithink, cabal that waged war, people. yeah, well, he's part of tithink, illegally. that waged war, people. yeah, well, he's part of tithink, illegally. arnie.'aged war, people. yeah, well, he's part of tithink, illegally. arnie. and, war, people. yeah, well, he's part of tithiknow.egally. arnie. and, war, people. yeah, well, he's part of tithiknow , gally. arnie. and, war, people. yeah, well, he's part of tithiknow , hundredsie. and, war, people. yeah, well, he's part of tithiknow , hundreds of and, war, you know, hundreds of thousands of people, absolute and never brought justice. so know, of people, absolute and never brwasit justice. so know, of people, absolute and never brwas a justice. so know, of people, absolute and never brwas a verystice. so know, of people, absolute and never brwas a very unfortunate know, of people, absolute and never brwas a very unfortunate turnw, it was a very unfortunate turn in that the debate took last night , obviously, for alex night, obviously, for alex phillips. but also it completely undermined the debate. they were having, which would have been quite a good debate. alex is incredibly knowledgeable, as you'll on the you'll appreciate, on the subject , and he absolutely subject, and he just absolutely browbeat her to the point that it just became a shouting match. i wrong, wasn't when i he was wrong, wasn't he, when he i he was wrong, wasn't he, when ne-soytno— i he was wrong, wasn't he, when ne-soytno ott— i he was wrong, wasn't he, when he-saying all these- i he was wrong, wasn't he, when he saying all these laws, i he was wrong, wasn't he, when he these lying all these laws, i he was wrong, wasn't he, when he these laws all these laws, i he was wrong, wasn't he, when he these laws were iese laws, i he was wrong, wasn't he, when he these laws were made ws, i he was wrong, wasn't he, when he these laws were made and all these laws were made and were legislated— all these laws were made and were legislated english, were legislated in english, parliament.— were legislated in english, parliament. what he. “43?" parliament. what was he. yeah. so parliament. what was he. yeah. so you— parliament. what was he. yeah. so you tron.— parliament. what was he. yeah. so you know. to— parliament. what was he. yeah. so you know, he was— so you know, he was fundamentally wrong and don't fundamentally wrong and i don't know much viewers

know how much the viewers want to this , the detail to know about this, the detail of it, but the debate right now is over 4000 eu regulations . and is over 4000 eu regulations. and i say regulations, not laws . i say regulations, not laws. these are 4000 eu regulations is on our statute books which rishi sunak promised he would ditch within the first 100 days of being prime minister. and he's not going to do it and he's not going to do it to do so. he's hated and going to do it to do 50. he's hated and doesn't- going to do it to do 50. he's hated and doesn't get- grit g r:r:::r e r:r:::r he's hated and doesn't get to. ' r: hated and doesn't get to. and kent.— hated and doesn't get to. and kent. kenn— hated and doesn't get to. and kemi, kemi said,— hated and doesn't get to. and kemi, kemi said, well, the civil service are too much to deal with, so i'm going to not do these things. but you need to know what eu regulations are. eu regulations are not something know what eu regulations are. eu regu parliamentnot something know what eu regulations are. eu regu parliament hadiomething know what eu regulations are. eu regu parliament hadion saying know what eu regulations are. eu regu parliament hadionsayingeu that parliament had to say in eu regulations made in regulations were made in brussels. finally in brussels, and then foisted verbatim on every single member state in the eu. so these laws that we have suit entirely arnie the eu. they don't suit the british national interest. one iota. they were created by the eu for the eu. so when alastair campbell said to alex and he shouted it down that these were debated in parliament

and parliament accepted them, he is 100% wrong. well, yeah . i is 100% wrong. well, yeah. i mean we, we never 00 : cr?" i mean we, we never expected him to te— mean we, we never expected him to te onytntno— mean we, we never expected him to be anything other than what he. to be anything other than what to out— to be anything other than what to out otoy— to be anything other than what he. but okay, so— to be anything other than what he. but okay, so talking about our sovereignty— he. but okay, so talking about our sovereignty and all of this stutt— our sovereignty and all of this stutt, tne— our sovereignty and all of this stuff, the tories— our sovereignty and all of this stuff, the tories have dropped tnts— stuff, the tories have dropped tnts toeo— stuff, the tories have dropped tnts toeo ot— stuff, the tories have dropped this idea of going, we're going to tote— this idea of going, we're going to tote rt— this idea of going, we're going to take it down— this idea of going, we're going to take it down to— this idea of going, we're going to take it down to tens of tnousonos— to take it down to tens of thousands migration into this country.— thousands migration into this country. were— thousands migration into this country. we're now looking at a ntttton— country. we're now looking at a ntttton peopte— country. we're now looking at a million people. what happened to rent— million people. what happened to rent ont— million people. what happened to brexit and reclaiming our borders — brexit and reclaiming our borders. it— brexit and reclaiming our borders. it is- brexit and reclaiming our borders. it is a- brexit and reclaiming our borders. e ratio" borders. it is a complete shocker . so david cameron, if shocker. so david cameron, if you can cast your mind as far back as that, i try not to think about to go past him in run in hyde park. and i'm like, but he soro— hyde park. and i'm like, but he soto neo— hyde park. and i'm like, but he said he'd have— ct: and i'm like, but he said he'd have numbers down t:t:i. and i'm like, but he said he'd have numbers down to the said he'd have numbers down to tne ton— said he'd have numbers down to tne ton ten.— said he'd have numbers down to tne ton ten. you— said he'd have numbers down to the low ten, you know, 10,000 a yeor— the low ten, you know, 10,000 a yeor ont— the low ten, you know, 10,000 a year and brexit— the low ten, you know, 10,000 a year and brexit was— the low ten, you know, 10,000 a year and brexit was the opponuntty— year and brexit was the opportunity and indeed the orontse— opportunity and indeed the prontse to— opportunity and indeed the promise to take back control of our promise to take back control of torters— promise to take back control of touroroers. — promise to take back control of our borders. we— promise to take back control of our borders. �*ttttttti uttiii promise to take back control of our borders. �*ttttttti tuttiii git t; our borders. we were going to get a points based skills , get a points based skills, immigration policy put in place, which, to be fair to boris johnson, he did do. but he said the skill base so low that we've got unbridled immigration . last got unbridled immigration. last year we had half a million. the

running average before covid and lockdowns was about 350,000 a yeah lockdowns was about 350,000 a year. last year we had half a million and people blamed it on a backlog from lockdowns. well, this year we're going to have near a million. it is it is near on a million. it is it is our borders completely out of control. so it's no wonder that both illegal migrants and legal migration an are just completely through the roof. we've got a government that simply doesn't know how to govern . and it's know how to govern. and it's shocking . and, you know, let's shocking. and, you know, let's just put this into context . just just put this into context. just 1.5 million people will take up 300,000 houses. that's about a one. and a half years worth of new house supply . we've already new house supply. we've already got a housing shortage. what do you think 1.5 million people does to the nhs, which is already broken waiting lists of 7.5 million versus 3 million post lockdown. what do you think it to schooling and all the post lockdown. what do you think it of to schooling and all the post lockdown. what do you think it of it? ihooling and all the post lockdown. what do you think it of it? i want�*ig and all the post lockdown. what do you think it of it? i want to and all the post lockdown. what do you think it of it? i want to take all the post lockdown. what do you think it of it? i want to take it the rest of it? i want to take it runner— rest of it? i want to take it further than _ rest of it? i want to take it further than that. - ”tits. e?’ i want to take it further than that. yeah, and you connot— further than that. yeah, and you eonnot nove— further than that. yeah, and you eonnot note o— further than that. yeah, and you cannot have a culture so unrenttttno— cannot have a culture so unremitting replaced. i'm so erot— unremitting replaced. i'm so otoo you-e— unremitting replaced. i'm so glad you've taken it. to me. tnot-s— glad you've taken it. to me. tnot-s o— glad you've taken it. to me. tnot-s o tott— glad you've taken it. to me. that's a bit terrifies me. so

otso— that's a bit terrifies me. so otso. onot— that's a bit terrifies me. so also, what we— that's a bit terrifies me. so also, what we do- that's a bit terrifies me. so also, what we do is same with tne— also, what we do is same with tne note— also, what we do is same with the woke thing,— also, what we do is same with the woke thing, calling eyerytooy— the woke thing, calling eyerytooy o— the woke thing, calling everybody a racist. it's like you— everybody a racist. it's like you just— everybody a racist. it's like you just tet— everybody a racist. it's like you just let all— everybody a racist. it's like you just let all the racists run tree— you just let all the racists run tree untte. — you just let all the racists run free while. whereas by letting eyerytooy— free while. whereas by letting eyerytooy tnto— free while. whereas by letting everybody into a— free while. whereas by letting everybody into a country, you're not everybody into a country, you'rei not—retuoees not letting the genuine refugees and not letting the genuine refugees one—outtte-s- and the and the public's confidence— and the and the public's confidence immigration confidence in the immigration system— confidence in the immigration. system _massively system is going to be massively otntntsneo.— system is going to be massively diminished-hate- system is going to be massively diminished. hate to say diminished. and i hate to say it, diminished. and i hate to say ttlt-n— diminished. and i hate to say ttlt-n ootno— diminished. and i hate to say ttlt-n ootnolsoy- diminished. and i hate to say it, i'm going say it. it, but i'm going to say it. i teet— it, but i'm going to say it. i teet ute— it, but i'm going to say it. i teet ttte ny— it, but i'm going to say it. i feel like my culture is being reotoeeo— feel like my culture is being reptoeeo tn— feel like my culture is being replaced in front of my eyes. ano— replaced in front of my eyes. ant every— replaced in front of my eyes. and every time— replaced in front of my eyes. and every time i— replaced in front of my eyes. and every time i go, i've got a stront— and every time i go, i've got a stunt protten— and every time i go, i've got a slight problem with, you know, guvst— slight problem with, you know, guys, guys— slight problem with, you know, guyst guys-to- slight problem with, you know, guys, guys to scale, guys, guys trying to scale, unten— guys, guys trying to scale, which happened in north—west leicestershire._ leicestershire. a guy tried to store— leicestershire. a guy tried to store-tense— leicestershire. a guy tried to scale fence primary scale the fence of a primary senoot— scale the fence of a primary senoot .— scale the fence of a primary school . immigrant was school. an immigrant who was turno— school. an immigrant who was tune-note.— school. an immigrant who was living hotel. illegal living in the hotel. illegal ttteoot— living in the hotel. illegal ttteoot-ouy- living in the hotel. illegal illegal. guy doesn't illegal. this guy doesn't understand— illegal. this guy doesn't understand_.| illegal. this guy doesn't- understand_. our understand my culture. our suture.— understand my culture. ourj culture. _ doesn't culture. our culture doesn't notter— culture. our culture doesn't matter-colour. culture. our culture doesn'ti matter-colour you culture. our culture doesn't- matter-colour you are matter what skin colour you are or—tntnos. - matter what skin colour you are or—tntnos. tt-s- or any of these things. it's otsotute— or any of these things. it's absolute terrifying. and why is it absolute terrifying. and why is. tt—ootno it conservative government doing otsotutety— absolutely nothing about it? so this absolutely nothing about it? so tnto-its— absolutely nothing about it? so this-it's such— absolutely nothing about it? so this-it's such it's- absolutely nothing about it? so this-it's such it's such- absolutely nothing about it? so this-it's such it's such an. this is a it's such it's such an important point because all the points that i made about housing, infrastructure and all the can at least the rest of it, you can at least economic some point over economic at some point get over that. what can't get over is that. what you can't get over is the complete destruction of british values, british heritage . and as you say, our culture and what we don't do in this country , motty is

country, motty is multiculturalism . we don't do it multiculturalism. we don't do it well. what happens ? what tends well. what happens? what tends to happen is people come into the country, they retire into their little enclaves. they continue with whatever their culture was from wherever they came. and they don't assimilate . they don't, for example , i . they don't, for example, i imagine swear allegiance to the king last saturday. and without assimilation, without an integrate , an without the best integrate, an without the best of all cultures coming to the fore, what you're going to get and what we're beginning to see quite in the open is a fractured society and cultural isolation, cultural isolation. and moreover , for and i know you're more aware of this than i am, but moreover , you get a you get moreover, you get a you get a situation where the minorities are now threatening the majority because if you don't accept and champion their values , you're champion their values, you're seen as somehow inherent racist. well, it's a very dangerous tttno— well, it's a very dangerous tntno. tnouon.— well, it's a very dangerous thing, though, because if on the stee— thing, though, because if on the one side culture— thing, though, because if on the one side culture is— thing, though, because if on the one side culture is so unconfident- one side culture is so unconfident in itself, britain is unconfident in itself, britain ts so— unconfident in itself, britain is so unconfident in itself, it

goes.— is so unconfident in itself, it goes. ne— is so unconfident in itself, it goes. we note— is so unconfident in itself, it goes, we have to— is so unconfident in itself, it goes, we have to we have to tnetuoe — goes, we have to we have to tnetuoe tt-s— goes, we have to we have to include it's all— goes, we have to we have to include it's all about inclusion.— include it's all about inclusion. what you end up tnetuotno— inclusion. what you end up tnetuotno ts— inclusion. what you end up including is a— inclusion. what you end up including is a bunch of nutcases , vou— including is a bunch of nutcases . you know.— including is a bunch of nutcases . you know. tn— including is a bunch of nutcases , you know, in terms of people tnot— , you know, in terms of people no stt— , you know, in terms of people that sit there— , you know, in terms of people that sit there go,— , you know, in terms of people that sit there go, i— , you know, in terms of people that sit there go, i want to put nut— that sit there go, i want to put nut tt-s— that sit there go, i want to put on. but it's not— that sit there go, i want to put on. but it's not about inclusion.— on. but it's not about inclusion. but it's not about tnetuston— inclusion. but it's not about inclusion exclusion. . inclusion exclusion. it's about exoustont — inclusion exclusion. it's about exclusion. it's about the promotion of and other promotion of ethnic and other minorities the exclusion of minorities at the exclusion of white people, essentially white people. that's what it is. but it's not just white people, teouse— it's not just white people, teouse you— it's not just white people, because you would fit into that circumstance _ because you would fit into that circumstance now— because you would fit into that circumstance now because you are ono— circumstance now because you are one-estotttsneo- circumstance now because you are and established brit. and you're an established brit. i and you're an established brit. t—wouto- and you're an established brit. i_would accuse. and you're an established brit. i_would accuse of i know people would accuse me of tetno— i know people would accuse me of tetno-ewen— i know people would accuse me of being-even though- i know people would accuse me of being even though i'm being racist, even though i'm tnoetwoot— being racist, even though i'm knockwood, that knockwood, you know, people that are knockwood, you know, people that ore—got— knockwood, you know, people that ore—got notntno- knockwood, you know, people that are _ got nothing to - are british, it's got nothing to do are british, it's got nothing to to wttn— are british, it's got nothing to to wttn sttn— are british, it's got nothing to do with skin colour. never has. us— do with skin colour. never has. tt-sleutturot— do with skin colour. never has. it'slcultural issue. - do with skin colour. never has. it's cultural issue. we're it's a cultural issue. we're a wonoertutty— it's a cultural issue. we're a wonderfully multiracial country, but wonderfully multiracial country, tut-terrttte— but we're terrible at multiculturalism beyond the toteowoy— multiculturalism beyond the takeaway. so what restaurants? wrot— takeaway. so what restaurants? wnot—ts- takeaway. so what restaurants? wnot—ts .- takeaway. so what restaurants? wnot—ts . ts- takeaway. so what restaurants? what—is , is ejectl what we have to do is, is eject woke a general policy for woke as a general policy for government. and i'm afraid woke is a thing in government and when labour party says the when the labour party says the tories have got to stop fighting the wars, actually the the culture wars, actually the tory party has to get a grip of the fighting the culture war, start fighting the culture war, start fighting the doing it, the culture, start doing it, start is start defending what is inherently british. they've got start defending what is inidozntly british. they've got start defending what is inido ittly british. they've got start defending what is inido it and ritish. they've got start defending what is inido it and you1. they've got start defending what is inido it and you know, t've got start defending what is

inido it and you know, thisjot to do it and you know, this hijacking of our society by woke is undermining our self—confidence. it's undermining our position as a country and it's got to stop right in the interest of balance, because why not? because we've got to be totoneeo. — because we've got to be balanced. thank you, mr ofcom. rotrontse— balanced. thank you, mr ofcom. rotrontse your— balanced. thank you, mr ofcom. patronise your public in the tnterests— patronise your public in the interests of— patronise your public in the interests of balance. who? you ono— interests of balance. who? you on t— interests of balance. who? you on t oe— interests of balance. who? you on t tust— interests of balance. who? you and i are just both white supremacists. �*tttttttill and i are just both white supremacists. well, i'm certainly not white. i'm half. but you're not seeing in america wnen— but you're not seeing in america wnen tney-re — but you're not seeing in america when they're they're when they're when they're ntsnonte— when they're when they're hispanic-all. when they're when they'rei hispanic-all the hispanic guy killed all the peopte— hispanic guy killed all the peopte-nott- hispanic guy killed all the people mall tragically people at the mall tragically in anetteo—wos- people at the mall tragically in america,_was an. america, they said it was an example— america, they said it was an example whiteness. so example of whiteness. so wntteness— example of whiteness. so- whiteness _ specific whiteness now is not specific to sun— whiteness now is not specific to sun-anyone— whiteness now is not specific to skin _anyone can- skin colour. anyone can onytntno.— skin colour. anyone can anything. anyone who goes out ono— anything. anyone who goes out onot-out— anything. anyone who goes out onot-out o— anything. anyone who goes out onot-out o gun— anything. anyone who goes out and out a gun and kills and pulls out a gun and kills peopte— and pulls out a gun and killsi peopte—ttoet. people, whether they're black, wntte— people, whether they're black, white—colour,- people, whether they're black, white—colour, it'sl white or any other colour, it's an white or any other colour, it's on—wntte- white or any other colour, it's- an_white supremacy. an example of white supremacy. wett— an example of white supremacy. wow-to— an example of white supremacy. wort-to ne— an example of white supremacy. well,-to me that- an example of white supremacy. well,-to me that if- an example of white supremacy. well, _to me that if you. well, it seems to me that if you hold anything other than white people with, know, with a people with, you know, with a degree suspicion and, you degree of suspicion and, you know, possibly loathing, unless you view , you are you adopt that view, you are basically a white racist . and basically a white racist. and people accuse suella braverman who is doing her best to control the illegal migration, doing absolutely right that she calls it an invasion. that's what it

is. they accused suella of being a racist. suella is not a racist. she's just trying to do the right thing by their own woke orthodoxy. she can't be a rootst— woke orthodoxy. she can't be a racist because _ woke orthodoxy. she can't be a racist because you— woke orthodoxy. she can't be a racist because you can't- : she can't be a racist because you can't be rootst— racist because you can't be roost-nut— racist because you can't be racist-but she- racist because you can't be racist but she doesn't say racist in. but she doesn't say tne— racist in. but she doesn't say tne-tnot— racist in. but she doesn't say tne-tnot tney- racist in. but she doesn't say the _that they -to| the things that they want to neon— the things that they want to neor. wett— the things that they want to hear. well, she's not politically- hear. well, she's not politically of colour. oh, tnot-s— politically of colour. oh, that's-other- politically of colour. oh, that's -other isn't that's the other problem, isn't it? that's the other problem, isn't rte-were— that's the other problem, isn't it? we're fragmenting it? because we're fragmenting ooort— it? because we're fragmenting ooort-tt-s— it? because we're fragmenting apart-it's what's- it? because we're fragmenting apart it's what's why woke apart and it's what's why woke is apart and it's what's why woke ts so— apart and it's what's why woke is so dangerous— apart and it's what's why woke is so dangerous why i think is so dangerous and why i think tnts— is so dangerous and why i think we country— is so dangerous and why i think we eountry ts— is so dangerous and why i think this country is heading into a terrttte— this country is heading into a terrible wreck— this country is heading into a terrible wreck solution, oetuotty— terrible wreck solution, actually, because can't terrible wreck solution,- actually, because -can't have actually, because you can't have someone that's politically black but someone that's politically black tut-roetotty— someone that's politically black but-racially black- someone that's politically black but racially black or but not racially black or potttteotty— but not racially black or politically brown and not it's unbelievably— politically brown and not it's unbelievably and it's very tnoonont— unbelievably and it's very important that— unbelievably and it's very important that the vast majority of important that the vast majority ot peoote — important that the vast majority ot peopte tust— important that the vast majority of people just want their buses to work— of people just want their buses to work on— of people just want their buses to work on time— of people just want their buses to work on time and education for to work on time and education tor-enttoren— to work on time and education for-children to- to work on time and education for-children to be- to work on time and education for children to be good for their children to be good ono— for their children to be good one so— for their children to be good and so on. but— for their children to be good and so on. but it's- for their children to be good and so on. ttig and so on. but it's very important the nation understands what's going on here because it is, you say, a culture war is, as you say, a culture war that will undermine well, as i was saying, too, it'll undermine the country . it's was saying, too, it'll undermine the country. it's undermining the country. it's undermining the our the foundations of our self—belief . and is a self—belief. and that is a disaster for the united kingdom. we've forward we've got to go forward confident as a nation, confident in our values, confident in our heritage and confident in our

history. we should be proud of who we are. there's so much positive we've contributed positive that we've contributed to the world, and all of that is being trounced out by this kind of and just got to of wokery and it's just got to stop . but should we, should stop. but should we, should snouto— stop. but should we, should snouto we— stop. but should we, should should we at— stop. but should we, should should we at the— but should we, should should we at the time stop should we at the same time stop ono— should we at the same time stop and-pause— should we at the same time stop and-pause ono— should we at the same time stop and-pause and say,- should we at the same time stop and pause and say, look, and take pause and say, look, nrttotn— and take pause and say, look, nrttotn nos— and take pause and say, look, britain has done— and take pause and say, look, britain has done some bad things in britain has done some bad things tn tne— britain has done some bad things tn tne wont— britain has done some bad things in the world and— britain has done some bad things in the world and maybe that osnt— in the world and maybe that osnt tn— in the world and maybe that wasn't in our— in the world and maybe that wasn't in our history lessons wnen— wasn't in our history lessons wneanere— wasn't in our history lessons wneanere ot— wasn't in our history lessons when were at school. when we were at school. you know.— when we were at school. you know-ot— when we were at school. you know, of massacres when we were at school. you- know, - of. massacres that know, some of the massacres that go — know, some of the massacres that go wett— know, some of the massacres that go wett. t— know, some of the massacres that go on. well, i disagree,- go on. well, i disagree, actually. i was educated. i was i had the privilege of a really good education in general. dyer, who for the who was responsible for the amritsar massacre, was part of our part of our history. and no, i mean, we were given a very balanced view. but the overall result of the british empire was positive. if it wasn't positive, you and i wouldn't be sitting here today having a very open conversation about the subject allowed to without being shut down, closed off and killed essentially. you know, that's sttty— essentially. you know, that's sttty. doctor— essentially. you know, that's silly, doctor who _ you know, that's silly, doctor who posted the two otetures— silly, doctor who posted the two ptetures ot— silly, doctor who posted the two pictures of the—

silly, doctor who posted the two pictures of the coronation an ono— pictures of the coronation an out tnen— pictures of the coronation an out tnen o— pictures of the coronation an and then a north korean rally ono— and then a north korean rally on sne— and then a north korean rally on sne went— and then a north korean rally and she went spot the difference. _ and she went spot the difference. and i was like , difference. and i was like, youre— difference. and i was like, youre o— difference. and i was like, you're a barrister, you're a towyen— you're a barrister, you're a towyer. t— you're a barrister, you're a lawyer. i didn't— you're a barrister, you're a lawyer. i didn't know what her ts. tut— lawyer. i didn't know what her name is, but it's— lawyer. i didn't know what her name is, but it's like the eoontttwe— name is, but it's like the cognitive dissonance, these people- — cognitive dissonance, these people- wett— cognitive dissonance, these people. well, it's- cognitive dissonance, these people. �*tttttttill . l e people. well, it's like it's like that actor who i can't remember her name now, the actress jones. actress from and darren jones. yeah, but she's. did you see yeah, but she's. did your/see the yeah, but she's. did you see the once— yeah, but she's. did you see the once tne— yeah, but she's. did you see the bbc? the bbc?— yeah, but she's. did you see the bbc? the bbc? what they're like outooots — bbc? the bbc? what they're like automatons. _like- bbc? the bbc? what they're like automatons. like clones. automatons. they're like clones. they— automatons. they're like clones. tney rentno— automatons. they're like clones. tney rentno ne— automatons. they're like clones. they remind me of— automatons. they're like clones. they remind me of each other. sne— they remind me of each other. sne wos— they remind me of each other. sne ute— they remind me of each other. she was like, oh,— they remind me of each other. she was like, oh, i— they remind me of each other. she was like, oh, i said, this tune— she was like, oh, i said, this tntno tnot— she was like, oh, i said, this thing that was— she was like, oh, i said, this thing that was a— she was like, oh, i said, this thing that was a bit upsetting. ano— thing that was a bit upsetting. ant-went.— thing that was a bit upsetting. ant-went. wo— thing that was a bit upsetting. and went, no, no, you didn't and he went, no, no, you didn't upset— and he went, no, no, you didn't upset-ano— and he went, no, no, you didn't upset-ant tut- and he went, no, no, you didn't upset-and but it- and he went, no, no, you didn't upset and but it was upset anyone. and but it was it owertty— upset anyone. and but it was it was overtly-said,- was overtly racist. i said, nrttotn-s— was overtly racist. i said, nrttotn-s o— was overtly racist. i said, britain's a-nice. was overtly racist. i said, britain's a nice place was overtly racist. i said,- britain's a-nice place to britain's a really nice place to twe— britain's a really nice place to two-get— britain's a really nice place to twe-oet to— britain's a really nice place to live.-get to act- britain's a really nice place to live. get to act again. live. never get to act again. sne-tt— live. never get to act again. sne-tt te— live. never get to act again. she'll be applauded for hating on-eountry— she'll be applauded for hating on country people on the country and the people tnot— on the country and the people tnot-ono— on the country and the people tnot-ono tne- on the country and the people that and the royal that love her and the royal tontty. — that love her and the royal tontty. a— that love her and the royal tontty. a toy— that love her and the royal family. , tiring tuttittti that love her and the royal family. , tiring ttti that love her and the royal- family. a day which we on which the royal family was being celebrated. and the other one i just want to mention while we're on yusuf humza on it, is yusuf humza yousaf. i got it right. can never humza yousaf yousaf racist. yousaf humza yousaf racist. yeah. so you know, he stands up . minister of . he's now first minister of scotland. one of the most senior political in the political positions in the country. up in country. and he stood up in holyrood and bemoaned the fact and. yeah, and bemoaned the fact

that there were white people in office. mean, how does that office. i mean, how does that happen ? oh, man. it just i how happen? oh, man. it just i how peoote— happen? oh, man. it just i how peopte not— happen? oh, man. it just i how can people not see— , oh, man. it just i how can people not see where this enose— can people not see where this enose rt— can people not see where this enose rt you— can people not see where this ends? if you divide people down the ends? if you divide people down tne ttnes— ends? if you divide people down tne ttnes ot— ends? if you divide people down the lines of skin— ends? if you divide people down the lines of skin colour, where toes— the lines of skin colour, where toes tt— the lines of skin colour, where toes tt ente— the lines of skin colour, where does it end? it's— the lines of skin colour, where does it end? it's awful. t e does it end? it's awful. does it ente— does it end? it's awful. does it onto anu— does it end? it's awful. does it end? and that and so we've got to get back to the way i was brought up at least, which is it doesn't matter what colour you are, it doesn't matter what religion you are, it doesn't matter what sexual preferences you have, what matters is what kind of person you are, what contribution you're making to the country and how you carry yourself through your life. that's what matters. and we've got to get back to that kind of meritocratic blind to colour attitude. i can't believe that we've allowed the country to be so in this way that racism is actually alive and kicking, but it's being perpetrated against the indigenous white population of the united kingdom. it's awful. i'm not going to argue wttn— awful. i'm not going to argue wttn you— awful. i'm not going to argue with you there,— awful. i'm not going to argue with you there, ben. - i'm not going to argue with you there, ben. i think tnere-s— with you there, ben. i think tnere-s o— with you there, ben. i think there's a lot— with you there, ben. i think there's a lot of— with you there, ben. i think there's a lot of racism erected.— there's a lot of racism directed, a _ there's a lot of racism

directed, a lot of people, but i tntnt— directed, a lot of people, but i tntnt wntte— directed, a lot of people, but i think white people get it, too. ten— think white people get it, too. nen nontn— think white people get it, too. nen nottt. o— think white people get it, too. ben habib, a man who shrinking wtotet— ben habib, a man who shrinking wotet. wno— ben habib, a man who shrinking violet, who will— ben habib, a man who shrinking violet, who will never tell you wnot— violet, who will never tell you wnot-tntnts- violet, who will never tell you what thinks anyway , you what he truly thinks anyway, you are what he truly thinks anyway, you oeon-o— what he truly thinks anyway, you are-and listening- what he truly thinks anyway, you are and listening to gb are watching and listening to gb news.— are watching and listening to gb news-to— are watching and listening to gb wews-to-your- are watching and listening to gb news. to your views news. still to come, your views on wnot— news. still to come, your views on wnot nos— news. still to come, your views on what has happened already on the on what has happened already on tne—totttno- on what has happened already on the _talking race. the show. and i'm talking race ono— the show. and i'm talking race one-pottttes- the show. and i'm talking race and-politics with- and identity politics with soetot— and identity politics with social commentator narinder kaur and-commentator- social commentator narinder kaur and commentator bushra and political commentator bushra snettn. —

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channel hello, cnonnet— . hello, coconuts. ctonnet— . hello, coconuts. we're channel hello, coconuts. we're back now . now, i always want to have a decent conversation if we can. and i want to talk this week about what i think i'm going to call racial ism. some of us here, myself included , can't here, myself included, can't always right. this is always get it right. but this is one why we're here, to one this is why we're here, to have discussions have these open discussions without favour . now, without fear or favour. now, nannder without fear or favour. now, narinder kaur , who is on my left narinder kaur, who is on my left here, quite rightly, and bushra , who is on my right, narinder the last time we spoke, you called rishi sunak sunak a coconut and suella braverman yes, there coconut. can i call you a coconut? you can call me a coconut. yeah, i am a bit. why would i want to? well, you can if would i want to? well, you can tt you— would i want to? well, you can tt you wont. — would i want to? well, you can tt you wont. t— would i want to? well, you can if you want. i don't- would i want to? well, you can if you want. i don't mind. it's fun. it'sjust. do you see it as fun. it's just. do you see it as a fun. it's just. do you see it as opeiorottwee — fun. it's just. do you see it as a pejorative? no,— fun. it's just. do you see it as a pejorative? no, i- fun. it's just. do you see it as a pejorative? no, i don't.- ti . do you see it as a pejorative? \tt:it t:titti . fun. it's just. do you see it as a pejorative? no, i don't. i see it as something that's in our community and we can say it. you can say it as well. because i'm not that sensitive. i'm not sensitive, as you are to when we say about racism and say talk about racism and colonisation you know all of colonisation and you know all of that, you get sensitive. i'm not

sensitive i don't have sensitive because i don't have guilt. what the word guilt. okay. what does the word eoonut— guilt. okay. what does the word oonutou-yr- guilt. okay. what does the word coconut-your mind- coconut bring into your mind wnen—tt- coconut bring into your mindj when—it means when you hear it? it means youre— when you hear it? it means you're brown on the outside, white on the inside, which means you're really brown. you're you're not really brown. you're trying be white. you don't trying to be white. you don't really are. it's really know what you are. it's just foul word. narinder just the foul word. narinder kaur called me that on kaur somebody called me that on twitter and i was twitter the other day and i was so annoyed and get annoyed so annoyed and i get annoyed i can coconut. but busher was can be a coconut. but busher was upset— can be a coconut. but busher was upset ono— can be a coconut. but busher was upset and annoyed— can be a coconut. but busher was upset and annoyed and- i ti ii but busher was upset and annoyed and it hurt net.— upset and annoyed and it hurt ner. so— upset and annoyed and it hurt ner. so we— upset and annoyed and it hurt her. so we don't— upset and annoyed and it hurt her. so we don't we don't walk oroun— her. so we don't we don't walk orouno tor— her. so we don't we don't walk around, for example, saying the w—woro— around, for example, saying the w—woro to— around, for example, saying the n—word to people— around, for example, saying the n—word to people because it's the n—word to people because it's tne—tne— n—word to people because it's the _the black- the community, the black eonnuntty— the community, the black community the the community, the black- community-the n—word community can't say the n—word ono— community can't say the n—word onot-aston— community can't say the n—word and asian community community can't say the n—word and the asian community community can't say the n—word and the coconut)mmunity community can't say the n—word and the coconut word. ty community can't say the n—word and the coconut word. �*ttttttti i ti say the coconut word. we can. do say the coconut word. we can. no we — say the coconut word. we can. no we get— say the coconut word. we can. no we get ony— say the coconut word. we can. do we get any words?- say the coconut word. �*ttttttti i ti do we get any words? do i get any— do we get any words? do i get ony worose— do we get any words? do i get ony worose — do we get any words? do i get any words? well,— do we get any words? do i get any words? �*tttttttill . l. any words? well, it's up to you to with your community. to discuss with your community. but in the black community, you can't say the n—word. in the asian community, can't say asian community, you can't say the lawrence you won't the c—word. lawrence you won't win i'm trying to. win on this. i'm not trying to. hold on, hold on. hold on, hold on, hold on. let's down. i want to be i let's stay down. i want to be i want this to be a healthy conversation. you let's have healthy don't want to do like healthy i don't want to do like you're not going to win. it's not about winning. don't care not about winning. i don't care about i just want to about winning. i just want to

talk. yeah talk. let's talk bucha. yeah well, was going to say, is well, i was going to say, is that you see the thing about terminology stuff, i get terminology and stuff, i get that claim words and they that people claim words and they can those amongst can have those words amongst themselves. but go themselves. but i couldn't go out—somebody- themselves. but i couldn't go out-somebody that| out there with somebody that i knew— out there with somebody that i knew ono— out there with somebody that i knew and call— out there with somebody that i knew and call them coco nut. tt-s— knew and call them coco nut. tt-s tust— knew and call them coco nut. us just not— knew and call them coco nut. it's just not right.— knew and call them coco nut. it's just not right. because i know— it's just not right. because i know-tnot— it's just not right. because i know _that word- it's just not right. because i know that word means. so know what that word means. so why— know what that word means. so wny—to— know what that word means. so wny—to cott- why would i want to call sonetooy— why would i want to call somebody racist, would somebody that racist, would you soye— somebody that racist, would you soyeltettewe — somebody that racist, would you say?ibelieve-is- say? i believe there is definitely— say? i believe there is- definitely-element definitely a racial element ottoeneo— definitely a racial element attached _ ifi attached to it? because if youre— attached to it? because if you're calling— attached to it? because if you're calling somebody tnternotty— you're calling somebody internally even though internally white, even though tney—you-rei they look brown, what you're soytno— they look brown, what you're soytno-soto- they look brown, what you're soytno-soto us- they look brown, what you're saying sold us out. saying is you sold us out. toute— saying is you sold us out. you've-actually. saying is you sold us out. you've-actually our you've you've actually sold our eonnuntty— you've you've actually sold our eonnuntty. your— you've you've actually sold our community, your race. well, no, it's community, your race. well, no, tt-s-teoouse— community, your race. well, no, it's-because i. wait,- community, your race. well, no, it's-because i. wait, wait,l it's not because i. wait, wait, wait, it's not because i. wait, wait, wort-wort.— it's not because i. wait, wait, wait,-wait. so- it's not because i. wait, wait, wait,-wait. so are- it's not because i. wait, wait, wait,-wait. so are we. wait, wait, wait. so are we soytno— wait, wait, wait. so are we soytno-we— wait, wait, wait. so are we saying we saying that that saying are we saying that that tne — saying are we saying that that racism, the racist— saying are we saying that that racism, the racist part of it, isle»— racism, the racist part of it, tsloo. youre— racism, the racist part of it, tsloo. youre o- racism, the racist part of it, is go, you're a coconut is to go, you're a coconut teouse— is to go, you're a coconut because you're- is to go, you're a coconut because you're not sort of potttteotty— because you're not sort of politically brown? tt/titit clkitfiflug politically brown? yes, exactly. anu— politically brown? yes, exactly. and that's my problem it. and that's my problem with it. it's if you're brown, it's like if you're brown, brown, think like this, brown, people think like this, which racist. it's which is kind of racist. it's almost like boxing community saying you don't think saying that if you don't think like us, if it's not the herd mentality whitewashed, it means you're whitewashed. it means that you've, you're whitewashed. it means that-you've, you've- that you've, you've, you've teeorne— that you've, you've, you've become more like country. become more like the country. toute— become more like the country.| voouwe—yuwe you've emigrated to and you've torootten— you've emigrated to and you've torootten-ts— you've emigrated to and you've forgotten-is that- you've emigrated to and you've forgotten is that wrong? forgotten why is that wrong? tnere-s— forgotten why is that wrong? there's nothing— forgotten why is that wrong?- there's nothing—that there's nothing wrong with that

.-wonoertut. — there's nothing wrong with that .-wonderful. idon't- there's nothing wrong with that . wonderful. don't like . that's wonderful. i don't like tnoton— . that's wonderful. i don't like indian music.— . that's wonderful. i don't like indian music. i— . that's wonderful. i don't like indian music. i love english muste— indian music. i love english rnuste. t— indian music. i love english music. i don't— indian music. i love english music. i don't particularly like twe— music. i don't particularly like ttteltoney— music. i don't particularly like likeifancy white— music. i don't particularly like like fancy white men. that like i fancy white men. that notes— like i fancy white men. that notes ne— like i fancy white men. that makes me a coconut. but there's notntno— makes me a coconut. but there's notntno wrong— makes me a coconut. but there's nothing wrong-that. - makes me a coconut. but there's nothing wrong that. you nothing wrong with that. you know.— nothing wrong with that. you know-tt-s- nothing wrong with that. you know, it's nothing bad, know, claiming it's nothing bad, but know, claiming it's nothing bad, tut—tour- but let's narinder kaur can. con— but let's narinder kaur can. con you— but let's narinder kaur can. can you understand- but let's narinder kaur can. can you understand ?- but let's narinder kaur can. can you understand ? and why can you understand? and why whilst hold that view, a lot whilst you hold that view, a lot of people might think that that was a racist view told i think some in our community it's not racist. so no okay it's not. but otwtousty— racist. so no okay it's not. but otwtousty tt-s— racist. so no okay it's not. but obviously it's not— ititti so no okay it's not. but obviously it's not racist. ti so no okay it's not. but obviously it's not racist. so ”itti so no okay it's not. but obviously it's not racist. so in your— obviously it's not racist. so in your community,— obviously it's not racist. so in your community, i— obviously it's not racist. so in your community, i don't understand— your community, i don't understand what your community so tn— understand what your community means. so in the— understand what your community means. ti means. so in the south asian community, it's not considered racist. but i'm south asian and ttn— racist. but i'm south asian and t-n ono— racist. but i'm south asian and t-n ono ttn— racist. but i'm south asian and i'm and i'm content— ”itti but i'm south asian and i'm and i'm content getting the wort. — i'm and i'm content getting the wort. so— i'm and i'm content getting the word. so therefore— i'm and i'm content getting the word. so therefore it's- i'm and i'm content getting the word. e i: word. so therefore it's not used in a pejorative way. minority. how you in a pejorative way. minority. now you teet— in a pejorative way. minority. now you teet .— in a pejorative way. minority. how you feel . that's- ti minority. how you feel . that's guilt. i how you feel. that's guilt. i tntnt— how you feel. that's guilt. i think that's— how you feel. that's guilt. i think that's guilt . itt; think that's guilt. hang on. tot-s— think that's guilt. hang on. ten not— think that's guilt. hang on. let's not guilt. we're- think that's guilt. itt; t; .. we're trying to let's not guilt. we're trying to note— let's not guilt. we're trying to note o— let's not guilt. we're trying to have a decent— t; .. we're trying to have a decent conversation where we oon-t— have a decent conversation where we oon-t iuooe— have a decent conversation where we don't judge people and call tnen— we don't judge people and call tnen-tor— we don't judge people and call them _for finding- them guilty for finding sonetntno— them guilty for finding something offensive. right. okay tet-s—wont- something offensive. right. okay let's—wantlmovel let's talk about i want to move nusnro— let's talk about i want to move on. bushra who— let's talk about i want to move on. bushra who you know her and i on. bushra who you know her and t otsooree— on. bushra who you know her and i disagree about— on. bushra who you know her and i disagree about a— on. bushra who you know her and i disagree about a lot of tttnos— i disagree about a lot of tntnos. wou— i disagree about a lot of things. you and i disagree about a things. you and i disagree about o tot— things. you and i disagree about o tot ot— things. you and i disagree about

o tot ot tttnos— things. you and i disagree about a lot of things, but— things. you and i disagree about a lot of things, but we all get we— a lot of things, but we all get we to.— a lot of things, but we all get on. we do. isn't— a lot of things, but we all get on. we do. isn't it- a lot of things, but we all get on. �*ttttttti titit e e i“ on. we do. isn't it crazy? almost like we need- on. �*ttttttti titit e e i 7” almost like we need to on. �*ttttttti titit e e i“ almost like we need to stop totttno— almost like we need to stop talking about— almost like we need to stop talking about all this skin ooutr— talking about all this skin colour rubbish, because it's wrong— colour rubbish, because it's killing stuff. _ colour rubbish, because it's killing stuff. bushra tweeted, sertousty.— killing stuff. bushra tweeted, seriously,-me- killing stuff. bushra tweeted, seriously, me just seriously, a part of me just wonts— seriously, a part of me just wontslsnut— seriously, a part of me just 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everyone. some gain more than otters-wont— everyone. some gain more than others.-world-upj others. the world is messed up all others. the world is messed up or ntstory— others. the world is messed up or ntstory ts— others. the world is messed up all history is going on about all history is going on about or ntstory— all history is going on about or ntstory ts— all history is going on about all history is but— all history is going on about all history is but going on otout— all history is but going on otout tt— all history is but going on about it solves— all history is but going on about it solves nothing. we're nere— about it solves nothing. we're nere ttvtno— about it solves nothing. we're here living-this— about it solves nothing. we're here living this country, here living in this country, ereot— here living in this country, oeo-wow.- here living in this country, great now, 99% of here living in this country,- great- now, 99% of those great britain. now, 99% of those soeottno— great britain. now, 99% of those soeottno-over— great britain. now, 99% of those speaking over seven. speaking out, 24 over seven. about—oo- speaking out, 24 over seven. about—go ono| speaking out, 24 over seven.- about_go and live about this wouldn't go and live in about this wouldn't go and live tn-eountrtes.— about this wouldn't go and live in-countries, even- about this wouldn't go and live in countries, even if in those countries, even if tnese— in those countries, even if these things— in those countries, even if these things the diamond , these things like the diamond, eteetero— these things like the diamond, etcetera, returned. so pipe etcetera, were returned. so pipe town.— etcetera, were returned. so pipe town-ne— etcetera, were returned. so pipe town-ne-nove- down, trust me, if you have nttttons— down, trust me, if you have nttttons ot— down, trust me, if you have millions of money of own millions of money of your own money—owe- millions of money of your owni money—otvelotr money, you wouldn't give it air the — money, you wouldn't give it air the wot— money, you wouldn't give it air time. not this— money, you wouldn't give it air time. not this much anyway. make your— time. not this much anyway. make your on— time. not this much anyway. make your money— time. not this much anyway. make your own money instead. should nove— your own money instead. should nove-eouto— your own money instead. should have .could-now,- your own money instead. should have could now, for have and could have. now, for tne— have and could have. now, for tne-ot— have and could have. now, for tne-ot too.— have and could have. now, for the of god, unmute my the love of god, unmute my oount— the love of god, unmute my account with— the love of god, unmute my account with crown pictures of a tooteo— account with crown pictures of a looted diamond— account with crown pictures of a looted diamond right. can you evntotn— looted diamond right. can you evntotnlus— looted diamond right. can 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bringing up about the diamond, about about about the kohinoor, about reparations , about people being reparations, about people being unhappy, about historical times that are so centuries ago, not centuries, 1919 was amrita, how are we going to move forward if we do not? should i tell you towe— we do not? should i tell you now — we do not? should i tell you now noto— we do not? should i tell you how? hold on,— we do not? should i tell you how? hold on, hold on, hold on. a time, please. thank you. i'm. veon— a time, please. thank you. i'm. veon. so— a time, please. thank you. i'm. veon. so wnot— a time, please. thank you. i'm. yeah. so what i— a time, please. thank you. i'm. yeah. so what i think- , e thank you. i'm. yeah. so what i think about is i tntnt— yeah. so what i think about is i tntnt ttn— yeah. so what i think about is i think i'm tired.— yeah. so what i think about is i think i'm tired. i'm— yeah. so what i think about is i think i'm tired. i'm exhausted. i think i'm tired. i'm exhausted. t eon-t— think i'm tired. i'm exhausted. t eon-t oeot— think i'm tired. i'm exhausted. i can't deal with— think i'm tired. i'm exhausted. i can't deal with those conversations- i can't deal with those conversations anymore. i want us to move— conversations anymore. i want us to torworo. — conversations anymore. i want us to move forward. so— conversations anymore. i want us to move forward. so what about toottno— to move forward. so what about toottno ot— to move forward. so what about toottno ot tne— to move forward. so what about looking at the solution? what toes— looking at the solution? what toes tne — looking at the solution? what does the solution often look twee— does the solution often look tttee wnot— does the solution often look like? what would make people tell like? what would make people tett-tne— like? what would make people tell the solution? tell you the solution? looks ute— tell you the solution? looks twee sotty.— tell you the solution? looks like 7 sally, what- tell you the solution? l 7” sally, what does the like? sally, what does the sotutton— like? sally, what does the solution look— l , sally, what does the solution look like to you? okay the solution look like to you? okay tne sotutton— solution look like to you? okay the solution looks— solution look like to you? okay the solution looks like acknowledging and not having this-whimsical- acknowledging and not having this whimsical attitude this little whimsical attitude of, this little whimsical attitude or. on.— this little whimsical attitude or. on. ttn— this little whimsical attitude of, oh, i'm tired— this little whimsical attitude of, oh, i'm tired , can we not be of, oh, i'm tired, can we not be on— of, oh, i'm tired, can we not be on. t— of, oh, i'm tired, can we not be on. t oon-t— of, oh, i'm tired, can we not be oh, i don't want— of, oh, i'm tired, can we not be oh, i don't want to— of, oh, i'm tired, can we not be oh, i don't want to do this, tteose— oh, i don't want to do this, rteose. eon— oh, i don't want to do this, please, can we— oh, i don't want to do this, please, can we not be judgy? otoy— please, can we not be judgy? otoy rteose.— please, can we not be judgy? okay please, can— please, can we not be judgy? okay please, can we not be judgy?_ okay please, can we not be judgy? otoy.— okay please, can we not be judgy? okay. you've asked has teen— judgy? okay. you've asked has teen-nteose.- been asked. no please. etnerwtse.— been asked. no please. otherwise, don't want been asked. no please. otherwise,idon't want have been asked. no please. othtchata,ldon't want have been asked. no please. othtchat andion't want have been asked. no please. othtchat and you want have been asked. no please. othtchat and you canit have been asked. no please. othtchat and you can leave.ive this chat and you can leave. otoy. — this chat and you can leave. otoy. tt-s— this chat and you can leave. okay. it's like,— this chat and you can leave. okay. it's like, sit down. vouve— okay. it's like, sit down. you've been— okay. it's like, sit down. you've been asked a question. tne— you've been asked a question. tne ouestton— you've been asked a question. the question is,— you've been asked a question. the question is, what see the question is, what do you see the the question is, what do you see tne—sotutton- the question is, what do you see the—solution is- the solution? the solution is wnot—

the solution? the solution is wnot-oo— the solution? the solution is wnot-oo ts— the solution? the solution is what-do is you- the solution? the solution is what do is you don't turn what you do is you don't turn oroun— what you do is you don't turn orouno ono— what you do is you don't turn around and characterjudge around and character judge . someone. _solution someone. you offer a solution in a someone. you offer a solution in o eotn — someone. you offer a solution in oeotn .rottonot— someone. you offer a solution in a calm rational way. a calm and rational way. worenoro— a calm and rational way. narendra-to- a calm and rational way. narendra to you a calm and rational way.- narendra-to you about narendra i spoke to you about tnts— narendra i spoke to you about tnts-we— narendra i spoke to you about tnts-we went- narendra i spoke to you about this-we went on- narendra i spoke to you about this we went on air grow this before we went on air grow up this before we went on air grow up sotutton— this before we went on air grow up sotutton ts— this before we went on air grow up solution is we— this before we went on air grow up solution is we acknowledge, we-otout— up solution is we acknowledge, we-otout tt. — up solution is we acknowledge, we-about it. .don't- we talk about it. we don't deny we talk about it. we don't deny we we some we are we have some acknowledgement what past acknowledgement of what the past atrocities was saying. why? because is it's disrespectful to the millions of people killed at the millions of people killed at the hands of the british government so it's so . okay, government so it's so. okay, cool. so let's i okay, cool. so let's acknowledge it noppeneo.— cool. so let's acknowledge it noppeneo. we— cool. so let's acknowledge it happened. we all acknowledge we noppeneo— happened. we all acknowledge we noppeneo .— happened. we all acknowledge we noppeneo . vou— happened. we all acknowledge we happened . you didn't happened. you didn't acknowledge. �*tttvttti e acknowledge. we haven't acknowledged. there's never actually you're on television acknowledging now. i am actually you're on television acknowledging now. iam right acknowledging it now. i am right . need to do acknowledging it now. i am right .-need to do we- acknowledging it now. i am right .-need to do we need- acknowledging it now. i am right .-need to do we need to. acknowledging it now. i am righti .-need to do we need to go . do we need to do we need to go to o— . do we need to do we need to go to o oroveyont— . do we need to do we need to go to o oroveyoro. oto— . do we need to do we need to go to a graveyard, dig some people up ono— to a graveyard, dig some people up onot-sorry.— to a graveyard, dig some people up and sorry, skeleton, what up and go, sorry, skeleton, what do up and go, sorry, skeleton, what oo-e — up and go, sorry, skeleton, what oo-e see.— up and go, sorry, skeleton, what oo-e see. nw- up and go, sorry, skeleton, what do-? see, now you're. up and go, sorry, skeleton, what. do-? see, now you're being do we do? see, now you're being you're the thing that i you're doing the thing that i was doing, saying, do you was doing, saying, how do you apologise to dead people? you just because actually apologise to dead people? you justbritish because actually apologise to dead people? you justbritish monarchy,e actually apologise to dead people? you justbritish monarchy, the tually apologise to dead people? you justbritish monarchy, the queen the british monarchy, the queen failed actually, failed as a monarch. actually, queen elizabeth ii failed as a monarch. stopped short monarch. they stopped short of ever king charles ever apologising. king charles needs to apologise . you get to needs to apologise. you get to reparations? yes and you're saying, oh, well, we can't do

reparations because that's too big . but you haven't even big a deal. but you haven't even said sorry. sorry, be enough . said sorry. sorry, be enough. sorry— said sorry. sorry, be enough. sorry seems— said sorry. sorry, be enough. sorry seems to— said sorry. sorry, be enough. sorry seems to be- t: sorry, be enough. sorry seems to be the hardest wort. — sorry seems to be the hardest word. reparations— sorry seems to be the hardest word. reparations bushwick. good neo— word. reparations bushwick. good toeo. noo— word. reparations bushwick. good toeo. not neo— word. reparations bushwick. good idea. bad idea. i— word. reparations bushwick. good idea. bad idea. ijust word. reparations bushwick. good idea. bad idea. i just think idea. bad idea. ijust think tt-s— idea. bad idea. ijust think it's pointless. _ idea. bad idea. ijust think it's pointless. ”ti it's pointless. how were you going to hold people that have passed away that are dead in their graves, accountable for stuff done centuries stuff that was done centuries ago? cannot that ago? because you cannot do that now. but families , those now. but those families, those tontttes— now. but those families, those tontttes oe— now. but those families, those families are not— but those families, those families are not being affected by tnose— families are not being affected by those historical content . by those historical content. tney-re— by those historical content. tney-re not— by those historical content. they're not narinder- by those historical content. they're not narinder kaur you said colonisation isn't a problem. now, who said colonisation— problem. now, who said colonisation isn't- now, who said colonisation isn't around now? twent— colonisation isn't around now? orevtt wos— colonisation isn't around now? orevtt ott— colonisation isn't around now? brexit was all about imperialism and nationalism.— brexit was all about imperialism and nationalism. who said no , and nationalism. who said no, nono— and nationalism. who said no, tone on— and nationalism. who said no, tone on o— and nationalism. who said no, hang on a minute.— and nationalism. who said no, hang on a minute. \tit” tit:ti” hang on a minute. narinder kaur , hang on a minute. narinder kaur i , hang on a minute. narinder kaur , i want you on here because i want to have a good conversation with you once and i don't want tweets from these from the gb news audience going, i can't watch her screaming, shouting, i want you to express your point to do it in the best possible way. and to do it in the best possible way . and i got to just it might way. and i got to just it might be oovtee— way. and i got to just it might be advice and— way. and i got to just it might be advice and i— and i got to just it might be advice and i may be being potrontstno— be advice and i may be being patronising judging people with

i patronising judging people with t get— patronising judging people with toettuooeo. — patronising judging people with i get judged. ”g g i get judged. everyone gets judged . it's like, i get judged. ”g g 33: it's like, let's make i get judged. ”g 3 33: it's like, let's make an judged. it's like, let's make an otteettve— judged. it's like, let's make an objective point.— 33: it's like, let's make an objective point. okay? really eotnty— objective point. okay? really eotnty .— objective point. okay? really eotnty . tust— objective point. okay? really calmly , just just tell us what calmly, just just tell us what tne— calmly, just just tell us what tne protten— calmly, just just tell us what the problem is— calmly, just just tell us what the problem is here. why reparations— the problem is here. why reparations are needed. i'm not soytno— reparations are needed. i'm not saying reparations are needed, but some kind of apology, acknowledgement studied in our classrooms. we can't we cannot look at colonisation with rose tinted glasses because people died. millions of people died. the wealth will the wealth of this country was built on the backs of the oppression of black and brown people . and you can't and brown people. and you can't say centuries ago, 1919 was rac massacre . thousands of people massacre. thousands of people were killed. you can't bury these things. what's the qatar world cup built on the backs of the slaves in qatar? i don't live in qatar. i'm a british citizen . so that's of no concern citizen. so that's of no concern to me . so you only care? you to me. so you only care? you onty— to me. so you only care? you onty sore— to me. so you only care? you only care about.— to me. so you only care? you only care about. _ to me. so you only care? you only care about. i- so you only care? you only care about. titit”ti so you only care? you only care about. i ”ti only care about. i care about. ttn— only care about. i care about. i'm a british citizen. right. sure. last word before we go to the sure. last word before we go to tne brew.— sure. last word before we go to the break. we'll— sure. last word before we go to the break. we'll be— sure. last word before we go to the break. we'll be back to sorry— the break. we'll be back to sorry tnts— the break. we'll be back to eorry tnts on— the break. we'll be back to carry this on, guys, by the way, ono— carry this on, guys, by the way, one nueno— carry this on, guys, by the way, and bucha honestly, narinder tour— and bucha honestly, narinder tour-ttn— and bucha honestly, narinder tour-t-n-to- and bucha honestly, narinder kaur-i'm-to-itl kaur like i'm going to put it out— kaur like i'm going to put it outlyou. — kaur like i'm going to put it outlyou. vou— kaur like i'm going to put it

out you. /t:it. kaur like i'm going to put it- outlyou. you know, this isn't out to you. you know, this isn't new. being in being great britain talking britain and talking about colonisation. something colonisation. this is something that across that happened during war across the across the globe. it happened with arabs. it happened with live here. the with indians. i live here. the point is, are bounties of point is, those are bounties of war. so this is how empires were built. it was done that monarchy with millions of people . it was with millions of people. it was done with millions of people. but what we have to look at now is there are communities and families, generations later that are in much better situations , are in much better situations, especially in great britain, windrush , we have everything at windrush, we have everything at our hands here. windrush okay, guys-— our hands here. windrush okay, guys. otoy— our hands here. windrush okay, guys. otoy we— our hands here. windrush okay, guys. otoy we oe— ” 3 windrush okay, guys. okay we are going to be toot— guys. okay we are going to be toot ono— guys. okay we are going to be back and what— guys. okay we are going to be back and what are we going to do wnen— back and what are we going to do wnen we— back and what are we going to do wnen we get— back and what are we going to do when we get back— back and what are we going to do when we get back actually, teouse— when we get back actually, teouse yes.— when we get back actually, because yes, we- when we get back actually, because yes, we can talk about the because yes, we can talk about tne post.— because yes, we can talk about tne post. tnot-s— because yes, we can talk about the past, that's fine. but when we-toet.— the past, that's fine. but when we-toet. t— the past, that's fine. but when we-back, i want- the past, that's fine. but when we-back, i want to- the past, that's fine. but when we back, i want to talk we get back, i want to talk otout— we get back, i want to talk about-future.- we get back, i want to talk about future. and i'm going about the future. and i'm going to nove— about the future. and i'm going to nove t— about the future. and i'm going to have i want— about the future. and i'm going to have i want both narinder tour— to have i want both narinder tour ono— to have i want both narinder kaur and bucha— to have i want both narinder kaur and bucha to tell us what to have i want both narinder kaurthinkiucha to tell us what to have i want both narinder kaurthink the a to tell us what to have i want both narinder kaurthink the solution us what to have i want both narinder kaurthink the solution to what to have i want both narinder kaurthink the solution to thist they think the solution to this very.— they think the solution to this very. very— they think the solution to this very, very divisive identity nottttes— very, very divisive identity politics-that- very, very divisive identity- politics-that - living politics world that we're living in politics world that we're living tn-tnot— politics world that we're living tn-tnotlrtnntno- politics world that we're living in that ripping society in now, that is ripping society onort— in now, that is ripping society oeon-.— in now, that is ripping society onon- tn—

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three i three. welcome i three - welcome back. lures— welcome back. white colonisers. wow— welcome back. white colonisers. wow you-ve— welcome back. white colonisers. wow you-ve teen— welcome back. white colonisers. now you've been getting in touch to otter— now you've been getting in touch to otter wnot— now you've been getting in touch to offer what you— now you've been getting in touch to offer what you have to say, wnen— to offer what you have to say, wnten ts— to offer what you have to say, which is essentially why we're nere— which is essentially why we're nere onywoy— which is essentially why we're nere onywoy. to — which is essentially why we're here anyway, to talk for you and wttn — here anyway, to talk for you and wttn you— here anyway, to talk for you and wttn you ono— here anyway, to talk for you and with you and anne,— here anyway, to talk for you and with you and anne, says, laurence, you're absolutely nont— laurence, you're absolutely nont. tne— laurence, you're absolutely right. the racism industry is tototty— right. the racism industry is tototty out— right. the racism industry is totally out of— right. the racism industry is totally out of control and it's nottno— totally out of control and it's making everyday life impossible. i making everyday life impossible. t reotty— making everyday life impossible. t reotty tntnt— making everyday life impossible. i really think it— making everyday life impossible. i really think it is.— making everyday life impossible. i really think it is. i think we're reaching- i really think it is. i think we're reaching this point where everytntno— we're reaching this point where| everything—colour. everything is about skin colour. wotntno— everything is about skin colour. wotntno-tne- everything is about skin colour. nothing the quality of nothing is about the quality of wnot-s— nothing is about the quality of was going— nothing is about the quality of was going on— nothing is about the quality of what's going on inside sides . what's going on inside sides. soeone— what's going on inside sides. someone-tust- what's going on inside sides. someone just going to someone and it's just going to get-ono— someone and it's just going to get-onot - someone and it's just going to get and worse. really get worse and worse. i really ooree— get worse and worse. i really ooree wttn— get worse and worse. i really ooree wttn you.— get worse and worse. i really agree with you, david, said. mr nennottt— benhabib was absolutely on on the benhabib was absolutely on on tne—wttn— benhabib was absolutely on on tne—wttn nts- the on the ball with his comments— the on the ball with his comments on- the on the ball with his comments on immigration. we all know— comments on immigration. we all know wnot-s— comments on immigration. we all know what's happening, but obe gb know what's happening, but obe on news— know what's happening, but obe on news tetts— know what's happening, but obe gb news tells it— know what's happening, but obe gb news tells it straight. keep it gb news tells it straight. keep tt eontno. — gb news tells it straight. keep tt eontno. -wny- gb news tells it straight. keep it coming. why this it coming. exactly why this enonnet— it coming. exactly why this channel-this— it coming. exactly why this channel this great channel channel or this great channel evtstse— channel or this great channel exists?-never- exists? you will never hear onytntno— exists? you will never hear anything-this- exists? you will never hear anything this anywhere else anything like this anywhere else on-neoto.— anything like this anywhere else on-neoto. tor— anything like this anywhere else on media, for better or on british media, for better or for worse. but—

on british media, for better or for worse. but you _ on british media, for better or for worse. but you can and on british media, for better or for wothe but you can and on british media, for better or for wothe bbc. iou can and on british media, for better or for wothe bbc. davein and on british media, for better or for wothe bbc. dave says and on british media, for better or for wothe bbc. dave says you're watch the bbc. dave says you're not oonet — watch the bbc. dave says you're not oonet our— watch the bbc. dave says you're not alone. our culture is being rentoeeo— not alone. our culture is being reptoeeo ono— not alone. our culture is being replaced and it's— not alone. our culture is being replaced and it's happening roster— faster every year. fully support you— faster every year. fully support you-tnont— faster every year. fully support you-tnont you.- faster every year. fully support you thank you, george. you on this. thank you, george. ereot— you on this. thank you, george. great monologues— you on this. thank you, george. great monologues dropping unwelcome bombs. thanks, unwelcome truth bombs. thanks, note— unwelcome truth bombs. thanks, note|0n— unwelcome truth bombs. thanks, note|0n nont— unwelcome truth bombs. thanks, mateion right on— unwelcome truth bombs. thanks, mate on right on to the future. mate. on right on to the future. t-n — mate. on right on to the future. tn ootno— mate. on right on to the future. tn going to— mate. on right on to the future. tn going to 90— mate. on right on to the future. tn going to go to— mate. on right on to the future. i'm going to go to you narinder tour— i'm going to go to you narinder tour ttrst. — i'm going to go to you narinder tour first so— i'm going to go to you narinder kaur first. so what— i'm going to go to you narinder kaur first. so what i was picking— kaur first. so what i was otettno up— kaur first. so what i was picking up from what you were sown;— picking up from what you were soytno wos— picking up from what you were soytno you— picking up from what you were saying was you feel that that nrttotn— saying was you feel that that britain hasn't— saying was you feel that that britain hasn't sort of dealt wttn— britain hasn't sort of dealt wttn tnts— britain hasn't sort of dealt with this and— britain hasn't sort of dealt with this and even even an apology— with this and even even an apology wouto— with this and even even an apology would be enough rather tnon— apology would be enough rather than reparations— apology would be enough rather than reparations or anything tnts.— than reparations or anything tnts. nut— than reparations or anything tnts. out you— than reparations or anything this. but you want to fully eonnttteo— this. but you want to fully committed emotional ? yes. / committed emotional? yes. yeah. trot-s— committed emotional? yes. yeah. tnot-s evootty— committed emotional? yes. yeah. that's exactly it.— committed emotional? yes. yeah. that's exactly it. i— committed emotional? yes. yeah. that's exactly it. i honestly this denial and this. oh, no, we didn't. and stop talking about it. stop silence our voices, you know , the younger generation, know, the younger generation, this matters to them. you know, i don't want the monarchy to go away, but the monarchy will be done the younger generation. done if the younger generation. recent yougov polls , yes, recent yougov polls, yes, they're not interested. and the toppling down statues because it matters to them. we are a progressive, multicultural society. it matters to the

younger generation. now if it matters to the younger generation, let us deal with it as adults that you just said, let's deal with it. let's be adults about this and say , adults about this and say, actually, what did we do in our colonisation, in our empire ? colonisation, in our empire? where did we do wrong ? did we do where did we do wrong? did we do right? i mean, you know, there's two can exist, both can exist . two can exist, both can exist. i get what you're saying. i suppose— i get what you're saying. i suppose tne— i get what you're saying. i suppose the response to that and of suppose the response to that and ot you— suppose the response to that and of course, you know, does need to 90— of course, you know, does need to to post. — of course, you know, does need to go back. well,— of course, you know, does need to go back. �*tttvtttill e 3 to go back. well, okay, it does. okay. okay. that's your- to go back. �*tttvtttill e 3 okay. that's your view. to go back. �*tttvtttill e 3 [its/{rig okay. that's your view. we okay. okay. that's your view. we all okay. okay. that's your view. we or know— okay. okay. that's your view. we or know wnot— okay. okay. that's your view. we all know what your— [its/{rig okay. that's your view. we all know what your view is. veon. — all know what your view is. veon. tne— all know what your view is. yeah. the response to that might be every— yeah. the response to that might be every stnote— yeah. the response to that might be every single society on earth ono— be every single society on earth one every— be every single society on earth on every stnote— be every single society on earth and every single culture on eortn— and every single culture on earth-abused,— and every single culture on earth abused, destroyed, earth is abused, destroyed, ropeo— earth is abused, destroyed, ropeo ono— earth is abused, destroyed, raped and pillaged its way tnrouon— raped and pillaged its way tnrouon tne— raped and pillaged its way through the world. utittut raped and pillaged its way through the world. \tittut tititi through the world. now, as much as britain, we were the biggest empire in the world. okay. okay. weren't we? that's not tnot-s— okay. weren't we? that's not that's l subjective - okay. weren't we? that's not that's subjective it. that's a subjective take on it. we— that's a subjective take on it. we-teen- that's a subjective take on it. we-teen tne- that's a subjective take on it. we been the biggest we may have been the biggest enptre— we may have been the biggest enptre tn— we may have been the biggest enptre tn tne— we may have been the biggest empire in the world, but we also touont— empire in the world, but we also touont tne— empire in the world, but we also bought the english language and eouottty—touont- bought the english language and equality bought some equality and law. we bought some oreot—anywoy- great things as well. anyway, tetore— great things as well. anyway, tetore-toet— great things as well. anyway, before - back to - great things as well. anyway, before back to that one, before we go back to that one, nueno — before we go back to that one, nueno novtno— before we go back to that one, bucha moving forward, what's before we go back to that one, bucha the ting forward, what's before we go back to that one, bucha the future?/ard, what's before we go back to that one, bucha the future?/ard, withe what's the future? what's the nrttotn— what's the future? what's the britain .want_ what's the future? what's the britain .want your- what's the future? what's the britain want your family to britain you want your family to

grow— britain you want your family to grow-tn— britain you want your family to orowltn ono— britain you want your family to grow-in and aid— britain you want your family to grow in and aid for the next grow up in and aid for the next oenerotton— grow up in and aid for the next generation-those— grow up in and aid for the next generation those that come generation of those that come otter— generation of those that come otter-etoy— generation of those that come otter-otoy — generation of those that come after-okay truth - generation of those that come after okay t: after us? okay truth be told, we need to just figure out a way of how all our cultures can come how all of our cultures can come together harmony peacefully. together in harmony peacefully. and like a long and i know it seems like a long shot, what to shot, but that's what needs to happen. we're kind of happen. and we're kind of veering towards that now from where we were years we are where we were years ago. we are in better place about the in a much better place about the youngsters. know, i just youngsters. you know, i just want to make this point. it's not that they don't care about the family because they the royal family because they do. are very do. youngsters are very different today. they're actually just impartial. they're just stuff. just not bothered about stuff. they that's they are. that's that's obviously a different poll. however, youngster is just do they just get on with what they're doing right now? you know, they're doing lots of hustles they're online. they're hustles. they're online. they're just new things. just inventing new things. they're like, you know, they find things entertaining things about royal bringing about the royal family bringing the into it actually the youngsters into it actually just doesn't make sense . just doesn't make any sense. kids, kids up. kids are kids. i have incredibly naive. i had to bite. i work on this channel, right? and i had to go in last week and do a thing on the

monarchy. i've not made it unobvious that i find prince charles a bit problematic. unobvious that i find prince charles a bit problematic . oh, charles a bit problematic. oh, you do? generally, why do you? for many reasons. but it's not about that. the king charles. sorry, but i was phoned up by the guys and they said, remember, it's a coronation it's a good, good time. get focussed, make it. and i was like, well, i don't feel like that. and they said, yeah, but it's not about you.sois said, yeah, but it's not about you. so is there an idea to go? the vast majority of this country , we are either calling country, we are either calling out for unity or division. so where would you draw a line of going? okay if you just acknowledged that you did this wrong, will that be enough for all of the community? so a really good question.- ti 7 so a really good question. it's a reotty— really good question. it's a reotty tooo— really good question. it's a really good question. it's a really good question. it's a really good question. i don't know.— really good question. i don't know. t— really good question. i don't know. i think— really good question. i don't know. i think for— really good question. i don't know. i think for me, an apology is know. i think for me, an apology ts—ttno- know. i think for me, an apology is_king charles,j is enough because king charles, i_kin9_ is enough because king charles, i_king cnortesi i actually think king charles nos— i actually think king charles nos-wttn- i actually think king charles nos-wttn o- i actually think king charles has with a massive has been left with a massive protten— has been left with a massive problem .queen- has been left with a massive problem queen elizabeth problem by queen elizabeth teouse— problem by queen elizabeth teeouse—o- problem by queen elizabeth- because_a monarch. because she failed as a monarch. nets— because she failed as a monarch. nets-tert— because she failed as a monarch. nets-tett wttn— because she failed as a monarch. he's-left with all- because she failed as a monarch. he's left with all these he's been left with all these prottens— he's been left with all these. problems._think problems. and actually, i think king— problems. and actually, i think tne—wont- problems. and actually, i think tne—wont to- problems. and actually, i think king—want to do. king charles does want to do sonetntno. — king charles does want to do something. actually something. he's actually opproveo— something. he's actually opproveo ot— something. he's actually approved of and research going tnto— approved of and research going tnto stovery—

approved of and research going into slavery and— approved of and research going into slavery and the slavery ttnts— into slavery and the slavery ttnts ot— into slavery and the slavery links of the _ into slavery and the slavery links of the monarchy. and i tntnt— links of the monarchy. and i tntnt tt— links of the monarchy. and i tntnt tt tney— links of the monarchy. and i think if they acknowledge that, i think if they acknowledge that, t tntnt— think if they acknowledge that, i think that's— think if they acknowledge that, i think that's a— think if they acknowledge that, i think that's a help in the nont— i think that's a help in the right direction. , right direction. a lot to say, though. sorry to you know, and i don't want to interrupt you because i'm breaking my own rules. there's quite a lot to say to a woman who spent 70 years of her life going to pubs hailed as a monarch and you live in a country where you're absolutely right to that. if you went back india, would be went back to india, you would be able say that if you if you able to say that if you if you went back to and went back to india and went, narendra failed loser, narendra modi is a failed loser, would you sleep safely at night ? uh, just me safely . ? uh, just tell me safely. possibly i wouldn't be sleeping sore— possibly i wouldn't be sleeping sote ot— possibly i wouldn't be sleeping sote ot wont.— possibly i wouldn't be sleeping safe at night, so.— possibly i wouldn't be sleeping safe at night, so. but i can i post— safe at night, so. but i can i postt eon— safe at night, so. but i can i postt t— safe at night, so. but i can i posit can i posit— safe at night, so. but i can i posit can i posit that that's onoztno— posit can i posit that that's one amazing thing about this country. — one amazing thing about this eountry. we.— one amazing thing about this country. utit t3i country. no, because i get death threats. because when said threats. because when i said otout— threats. because when i said otout tne— threats. because when i said about the saint— because when i said about the saint george's flag, i get-tnreots.— about the saint george's flag, i get-threats. so - about the saint george's flag, i get threats. so actually, get death threats. so actually, tn — get death threats. so actually, tn -tne— get death threats. so actually, i'm _the internet- get death threats. so actually, i'm the internet club . i'm not join the internet club. i'm not join the internet club. t no— i'm not join the internet club. t nonestty.— i'm not join the internet club. i no, honestly, i— i'm not join the internet club. i no, honestly, i agree. it's a 9°0d_ i no, honestly, i agree. it's a good tt-s— i no, honestly, i agree. it's a good is o— i no, honestly, i agree. it's a good it's a good— i no, honestly, i agree. it's a good it's a good point. e good it's a good point. it's ute— good it's a good point. it's ttte wnot— good it's a good point. it's ttte wtot t— good it's a good point. it's like what i all— good it's a good point. it's like what i all i'm saying is i'm getting sparks from both of you, not those sorts of sparks. oh, yeah, you are. but i'm oetttno— oh, yeah, you are. but i'm oetttno sports—

oh, yeah, you are. but i'm getting sparks of- oi tit”ti but i'm getting sparks of going. something's_ getting sparks of going. something's got- getting sparks of going. something's got to - getting sparks of going. something's got to change. something's got to change. something in this narrative has got to change. and i want us before the end of this discussion, i want to us find what one thing that we can all agree on. okay. all right. what is it ? so you want more is it? so you want more accountability ? you want accountability? you want education? education . people are education? education. people are tonoront— education? education. people are tonoront to— education? education. people are ignorant to actually. _ education? education. people are ignorant to actually. so- 3i7 education. people are ignorant to actually. so you wont— ignorant to actually. so you wont tne— ignorant to actually. so you want the truth.— ignorant to actually. so you want the truth. the truth . okay. want the truth. the truth. okay. wnot— want the truth. the truth. okay. wnot to — want the truth. the truth. okay. wnot to t— want the truth. the truth. okay. what do i want? _ want the truth. the truth. okay. what do i want? i ti what do i want? it's not even about what i want. what do we need, lawrence? i think. i think what we need to do is we need to leave the historical baggage behind . we need to leave that behind. we need to leave that behind. we need to leave that behind. it is no good for us as a community cohesively to move forward. if we keep dragging the past continuously . and we've got past continuously. and we've got to get over it because and i'm sorry, as harsh as that may sound to people, it is the truth. hang on. no, no , no, it's truth. hang on. no, no, no, it's not. and this isn't about feelings . this is about logic , feelings. this is about logic, practicality and what the country looks like. so we need to leave our feelings and emotions at the table. people are buried. historical events

are buried. historical events are dead and buried . let's build are dead and buried. let's build are dead and buried. let's build a better future . you sound a better future. you sound tonoront— a better future. you sound ignorant, bucha.- a better future. you sound ignorant, bucha. you- you sound ignorant, bucha. you sound so tonoront— ignorant, bucha. you sound so ignorant. what— ignorant, bucha. you sound so ignorant. what did we agree? wnot— ignorant. what did we agree? wnot oto— ignorant. what did we agree? wnot oto we— ignorant. what did we agree? what did we agree? ti what did we agree? i mean, i oon-t— what did we agree? i mean, i can't believe i'm ignorant. we agreed at the beginning- ti . 3 we agreed at the beginning of this conversation— agreed at the beginning of this conversation we— agreed at the beginning of this conversation we weren't going to go personot. — conversation we weren't going to go personal. leave— conversation we weren't going to go personal. e go personal. leave it. what do you know about her? but she's saying leave it. and how can you leave something that's not acknowledged? well, you've got a big acknowledged? well, you've got a two-ono— acknowledged? well, you've got a big-and o— acknowledged? well, you've got a big-and o big— acknowledged? well, you've got a big-and o big yes.- acknowledged? well, you've got a big-and a big yes. she's. big mouth and a big yes. she's got on— big mouth and a big yes. she's got on optnton— big mouth and a big yes. she's got an opinion. she's entitled to epress— got an opinion. she's entitled to epress tt— got an opinion. she's entitled to express it.this. - got an opinion. she's entitled to express it this. can. to express it on this. she can. ner— to express it on this. she can. net—sne— to express it on this. she can. her—she can't.- to express it on this. she can. her—she can't. i'mi her position is she can't. i'm nooerottno— her position is she can't. i'm moderating this. _ her position is she can't. i'm moderating this. her position is we teove— moderating this. her position is we teove tne— moderating this. her position is we leave the past— moderating this. her position is we leave the past in past we leave the past in the past teouse— we leave the past in the past because-face— we leave the past in the past because face none of because let's face it, none of us neeo— because let's face it, none of us need to— because let's face it, none of us need to be— because let's face it, none of us need to be einstein to work out— us need to be einstein to work out tneory. — us need to be einstein to work out tneory. -wny- us need to be einstein to work out theory. why are the out theory. then why are the prottens— out theory. then why are the problems happening now? cannot problems happening now? i cannot enonoe— problems happening now? i cannot enonoe-wty— problems happening now? i cannot enonoe-wny ore— problems happening now? i cannot change-why are voices- change it. but why are voices becoming louder ? then let's becoming louder? then let's sorry so becoming louder? then let's sorry-so-ot- becoming louder? then let's. sorry-so-at moderating. sorry i'm so bad at moderating. vou— sorry i'm so bad at moderating. vou oe— sorry i'm so bad at moderating. vou 900d_ sorry i'm so bad at moderating. you are good at— sorry i'm so bad at moderating. you are good at.go- sorry i'm so bad at moderating. you are good at go calm you are good at it. go calm toss.— you are good at it. go calmi toss—tows. you are good at it. go calm- loss._laws. calm loss. calm laws. calm laws. calm tows. — loss. calm laws. calm laws. calm tows. .nueno— loss. calm laws. calm laws. calm laws. .bucha says— loss. calm laws. calm laws. calm laws. .bucha says we- loss. calm laws. calm laws. calm laws. bucha says we need to laws. but bucha says we need to put onevonee— laws. but bucha says we need to put grievance culture and toenttty— put grievance culture and identity politics to bed . can identity politics to bed. can you— identity politics to bed. can you tett— identity politics to bed. can you tett ne— identity politics to bed. can you tell me in— identity politics to bed. can you tell me in a— identity politics to bed. can you tell me in a calm and reasonable— you tell me in a calm and reasonable way- you tell me in a calm and reasonable way why that's a bad toeoe— reasonable way why that's a bad toeoe tt-s— reasonable way why that's a bad toeoe tt-s o— reasonable way why that's a bad idea? it's a really— reasonable way why that's a bad idea? it's a really good idea. if idea? it's a really good idea. tt tt—

idea? it's a really good idea. tt tt wos— idea? it's a really good idea. if it was acknowledged- idea? it's a really good idea. if it was acknowledged in- idea? it's a really good idea. if it was acknowledged in the first place and if acknowledgement we've agreed that we don't agree, we're going to acknowledge you returned stolen artefacts. we can then leave it. we can draw a line under it all and we can we can heal and we get why do you get to deal? i don't . so neither of to deal? i don't. so neither of us do. some of us have to. then we've got to we've got to come to some compromise. lawrence, let's narinder kaur half of half of these artefacts that you that you keep bringing up continuously , right? they're continuously, right? they're probably continuously, right? they're protopty not— continuously, right? they're probably not even- tititti ” 3 ti7 they're probably not even safe in tititti. ” 3 ti.7 they're probably not even safe in the ooveents— probably not even safe in the governments that currently exist . wunter— governments that currently exist . number one— governments that currently exist . number one, if— governments that currently exist . number one, if they're going to tt— . number one, if they're going to tt tne— . number one, if they're going to if the kohinoor— . number one, if they're going to if the kohinoor was to return to if the kohinoor was to return to noto— to if the kohinoor was to return to tnoto. tnot— to if the kohinoor was to return to india, that kohinoor is also ototneo— to india, that kohinoor is also ototneo ty— to india, that kohinoor is also claimed by afghanistan. iran tottston— claimed by afghanistan. iran pakistan and— claimed by afghanistan. iran pakistan and india , it would pakistan and india, it would tts— pakistan and india, it would cause its own— pakistan and india, it would cause its own problem . so we cause its own problem. so we need— cause its own problem. so we need to— cause its own problem. so we need to get— cause its own problem. so we need to get over— cause its own problem. so we need to get over those conversations. ?t3 i need to get over those- conversations. ridiculous. that sounds to you. to you, it might do .— sounds to you. to you, it might to . tut— sounds to you. to you, it might to . tut tt-s— sounds to you. to you, it might do, but it's still— sounds to you. to you, it might do , but it's still a— tit3~it to you, it might do , but it's still a suggestion. do, but it's still a suggestion. i'll do, but it's still a suggestion. ttt steot— do, but it's still a suggestion. ttt steot your— do, but it's still a suggestion. i'll steal your phone.- do, but it's still a suggestion. i'll steal your phone. it's- i'll steal your phone. it's safer in my pocket because it's not safe in your house because your kids might steal it. not safe in your house because your kids might steal it . and your kids might steal it. and ridiculous narinder kaur it changed so many hands. it

changed so many hands. it changed so many hands. founded in changed so many hands. founded tn tnuton— changed so many hands. founded in indian founded. i'm sorry. i'm scores on the doors here, guys— i'm scores on the doors here, ouys .— i'm scores on the doors here, ouys. wortnoer— i'm scores on the doors here, guys. narinder kaur. i'm scores on the doors here, guys. narinder kaur . yes, guys. narinder kaur. yes, i eonptetety— guys. narinder kaur. yes, i completely understand that you feel completely understand that you teet tnot— completely understand that you feel that wrongs— completely understand that you feel that wrongs have been done and feel that wrongs have been done one tnot— feel that wrongs have been done one no tney— feel that wrongs have been done and that they haven't been acknowledged _ and that they haven't been acknowledged .— and that they haven't been acknowledged . i think i feel. acknowledged. i think i feel. i teet— acknowledged. i think i feel. i test ute— acknowledged. i think i feel. i feel like crying. that's- acknowledged. i think i feel. ”titi. . ti3 tit3 that's okay. feel like crying. that's okay. i tntnt.— feel like crying. that's okay. i tntnt. t— feel like crying. that's okay. i think. i think— feel like crying. that's okay. i think. i think people- ”titi. . ti3 tit3 that's okay. i think. i think people would. you-o— think. i think people would. vou-o nove— think. i think people would. you'd have some support there. veon— you'd have some support there. veon. veon— you'd have some support there. yeah. yeah even— you'd have some support there. yeah. yeah even though bushire is yeah. yeah even though bushire ts-o— yeah. yeah even though bushire ts-o ttttte— yeah. yeah even though bushire is-a little-more- is sort of a little bit more otteettve— is sort of a little bit more objective about- is sort of a little bit more objective about it and she's soytno— objective about it and she's soytno. toot.— objective about it and she's saying, look, this diamond is ototneo— saying, look, this diamond is claimed everybody and maybe saying, look, this diamond is claiipaid everybody and maybe saying, look, this diamond is claiipaid it everybody and maybe saying, look, this diamond is claiipaid it regardless. and maybe saying, look, this diamond is claiipaid it regardless. bushra ybe saying, look, this diamond is claiipaid it regardless. bushra i)e you paid it regardless. bushra i teet— you paid it regardless. bushra i teet sores— you paid it regardless. bushra i feel scores-doors- you paid it regardless. bushra i feel scores doors for me feel scores on the doors for me is feel scores on the doors for me ts-nusnro— feel scores on the doors for me ts-nusnro sort.— feel scores on the doors for me is-bushra said, i- feel scores on the doors for me is bushra said, i think we is that bushra said, i think we need— is that bushra said, i think we need to— is that bushra said, i think we need to ston— is that bushra said, i think we need to start ushering in the eno— need to start ushering in the end ot— need to start ushering in the end of identity— need to start ushering in the end of identity politics. yeah you— end of identity politics. yeah you-nusnro- end of identity politics. yeah you-bushra is- end of identity politics. yeah you-bushra is a. end of identity politics. yeah- you-bushra is a muslim you know, but bushra is a muslim as you know, but bushra is a muslim os tor— you know, but bushra is a muslim os tor os— you know, but bushra is a muslim os tor os t— you know, but bushra is a muslim os tor os t on— you know, but bushra is a muslim os tor os t on o— you know, but bushra is a muslim as far as i am a muslim and i'm as far as i am a muslim and i'm o cnrtstton.— as far as i am a muslim and i'm a christian, right?— as far as i am a muslim and i'm a christian, right? we're ottterent— a christian, right? we're different religions. i mean, i'm tntton— different religions. i mean, i'm tnoton. veon— different religions. i mean, i'm indian. yeah, that's fine. but tn — indian. yeah, that's fine. but tn .soytno— indian. yeah, that's fine. but i'm saying sometimes i'm just saying sometimes those tnose— i'm just saying sometimes those tnose tntnos— i'm just saying sometimes those those things about— i'm just saying sometimes those those things about looking at tntnos— those things about looking at tntnos tn— those things about looking at tntnos tn o— those things about looking at things in a different way, which is, things in a different way, which ts-you— things in a different way, which ts-you eon-t— things in a different way, which ts-you eon-t dig- things in a different way, which is, you can't dig up the is, you, you can't dig up the post— is, you, you can't dig up the post ott— is, you, you can't dig up the post or tne— is, you, you can't dig up the past all the time- is, you, you can't dig up the past all the time because you know— past all the time because you. know—teen know you can't. i've never been ouo— know you can't. i've never been ouo-nts— know you can't. i've never been ouo-tt-s never— know you can't. i've never been dug-it's never been. if. know you can't. i've never been dug . ti if we dug up. it's never been. if we owe— dug up. it's never been. if we ooree tnot— dug up. it's never been. if we

ooree no we— dug up. it's never been. if we agree that we want— dug up. it's never been. if we agree that we want to- dug up. if we agree that we want to dig it up, tnoton— agree that we want to dig it up, tnoton ntstory— agree that we want to dig it up, indian history month, would that netp— indian history month, would that netp o— indian history month, would that netp o nontne — indian history month, would that help a month? no,— indian history month, would that help a month? \t:it indian history month, would that help a month? \ttiit �*tttvttti indian history month, would that help a month? \t:it �*tttvttti 3 indian history month, would that help a month? \ttiit �*tttvttti 3 help a month? no, no, we need to really acknowledge the past and then we can move on. i want to move i in this move forward. i live in this country. was your therapist. country. it was your therapist. i would say you don't want to move forward. _ i would say you don't want to move forward. oh,- i would say you don't want to move forward. oi i would say you don't want to move forward. o ti 3 move forward. oh, i'm desperate to move. i live in this country. i'm citizen. i'm a proud british citizen. i know you are. i'm proud. you know you are. i'm proud. you know am. know me. i do. know i am. you know me. i do. and i'm just saying, if i was- and i'm just saying, if i was if i and i'm just saying, if i was if t wos— and i'm just saying, if i was if t your— and i'm just saying, if i was if i was your therapist, i'd say, do i was your therapist, i'd say, to you— i was your therapist, i'd say, to you reotty— i was your therapist, i'd say, do you really want to move torworo— do you really want to move torworo or— do you really want to move forward or do— do you really want to move forward or do you want to stay wnere—nut- forward or do you want to stayi where - but lawrence, forward or do you want to stay- where - but lawrence, do where you are? but lawrence, do you think society, as we are now, the youth of today, do you not want us to be united? do you not want us to be united? do you not think youth deserve not think the youth deserve some? don't want this. some? they they don't want this. i they deserve future i think they deserve a future devoid past. that's devoid of our past. that's what i devoid of our past. that's what t teet— devoid of our past. that's what tteet. nonw— devoid of our past. that's what i feel, right? we— devoid of our past. that's what i feel, right? we have- 3 3 that's what i feel, right? we have only a very— i feel, right? we have only a very ston— i feel, right? we have only a very short amount of time now, ttsten— very short amount of time now, ttsten. t— very short amount of time now, ttsten. t know— very short amount of time now, listen, i know that— very short amount of time now, listen, i know that some of you guys—i- listen, i know that some of you guys—t oon-t- guys were like, oh, i don't wonno-tnts- guys were like, oh, i don't wanna this conversation, wanna have this conversation, tut— wanna have this conversation, tut we— wanna have this conversation, tut we oe— wanna have this conversation, but we are entering this place as but we are entering this place osleountry— but we are entering this place aslcountry-we're- but we are entering this place as country we're going but we are entering this place as coltory we're going but we are entering this place as colto have we're going but we are entering this place as colto have thisve're going to have to have this conversation. going to have to have this- conversation. .going to to have to have this— conversation.-going to have conversation. it's going to have tosen-ous— conversation. it's going to have to-serious because. conversation. it's going to have to serious because the to be really serious because the rnoeon-o— to be really serious because the more-and divide- to be really serious because the more and divide people more we try and divide people town.— more we try and divide people down, ridiculous— more we try and divide people down, ridiculous things like sttn—we-ve-

down, ridiculous things like skin _we've got down, ridiculous things like. skin _we've got to skin colour lines, we've got to come—a solution.| come together for a solution. tnont— come together for a solution.- thank—parents. thank you. both of my parents. etve— thank you. both of my parents. etve ne— thank you. both of my parents. etve me your— thank you. both of my parents. give me your thing. up next is work— give me your thing. up next is work poton— give me your thing. up next is mark dolan. mark, what have you got-use— mark dolan. mark, what have you ootluse on.— mark dolan. mark, what have you ootluse on. nets— mark dolan. mark, what have you got-us? oh, he's not- mark dolan. mark, what have you got us? oh, he's not there. got for us? oh, he's not there. no got for us? oh, he's not there. wo-eorry— got for us? oh, he's not there. wo-eorry on— got for us? oh, he's not there. no-carry on going- got for us? oh, he's not there. no carry on going until no i just carry on going until tne— no i just carry on going until tne eno. — no i just carry on going until the end. tell— no i just carry on going until the end. tell me— no i just carry on going until the end. tell me when to check out— the end. tell me when to check out-nonos. — the end. tell me when to check out-hands. .can- the end. tell me when to check out-hands. .can come| the end. tell me when to check. out-hands. .can come in. out guys hands. we can come in. look here. look. there's one. by. by. see you next week, team . netto— by. by. see you next week, team . netto oootn— flat by. see you next week, team . hello again. following a turtutent— . hello again. following a turbulent week of weather with neovy— turbulent week of weather with some heavy showers and thunderstorms- some heavy showers and thunderstorms out there. . thunderstorms out there. it's a ttne— thunderstorms out there. it's a ttne ston— thunderstorms out there. it's a ttne stort to— thunderstorms out there. it's a fine start to the— thunderstorms out there. it's a fine start to the weekend. after any early cloud clears, there'll be warm spells of sunshine for many of us, high pressure is moving in. that's moving from the north—west to the south—east this weekend . initially, we've this weekend. initially, we've seen area of patchy rain and seen an area of patchy rain and drizzle affects south eastern parts that tends to ease away overnight, we keep legacy overnight, but we keep a legacy of across central of low cloud across central southern and eastern england. some patches around the coast of scotland and northern ireland as well. but for scotland and northern well as northern ireland as well as western we've western england and wales, we've got overnight in got clear skies overnight in land and temperatures falling away a result, mid to even away as a result, mid to even low single figures in some sheltered spots , 910 celsius

sheltered spots, 910 celsius where we've got the grey leaden skies to start off the weekend and it will be a slow start for east wales, south—west england, the midlands as well as northern england. in these places, the cloud will slowly but surely lift , break cloud will slowly but surely lift, break up and be replaced by sunny spells into the afternoon. but we keep the grey skies around the coast and it will affect temperatures 11 to 12 celsius on the north sea coast. high teens, low 20s elsewhere across scotland , elsewhere across scotland, western and southern england. wales as well as northern ireland. now towards the end of saturday, the cloud will thicken across northwest scotland, with some of rain beginning some outbreaks of rain beginning to move in and that will move into parts of northern ireland as as central scotland by as well as central scotland by the the night. england as well as central scotland by the wales,the night. england as well as central scotland by the wales, meanwhile,igland as well as central scotland by the wales, meanwhile, seesd as well as central scotland by the wales, meanwhile, sees the and wales, meanwhile, sees the return the low cloud across return of the low cloud across central areas. but central and eastern areas. but a slice clear skies for slice of clear skies for northern england, for parts of wales in the south—west will lead start once again lead to chilly start once again on but of bright on sunday. but plenty of bright weather here on sunday morning. the low cloud across central and eastern will break up and eastern parts will break up and tend retreat back to the

tend to retreat back to the coast again. and it's coast once again. and it's towards the south—east where we keep the sunny skies on sunday. and it will be bit warmer on and it will be a bit warmer on that coast. rain that north sea coast. but rain moving through scotland and northern ireland by monday will push into england and wales and turn showery with cooler turn more showery with cooler weather following . on mark dolan weather following. on mark dolan tonight as net migration is set to top a million people this year , i'll be dealing with the year, i'll be dealing with the archbishop of canterbury, woke welby, who wants more. in my big opinion, welby, who wants more. in my big optnton. tne— welby, who wants more. in my big opinion, the so—called_ in my big opinion, the so—called experts wno— opinion, the so—called experts wno keep— opinion, the so—called experts who keep getting— opinion, the so—called experts who keep getting it wrong about newt.— who keep getting it wrong about brexit. britain _ who keep getting it wrong about brexit. britain plus maverick towyer— brexit. britain plus maverick towyer oerry— brexit. britain plus maverick lawyer gerry hayes , former lawyer gerry hayes, former government— lawyer gerry hayes, former government minister edwina currte— government minister edwina currte ono— government minister edwina currie and music superstar carol pester— currie and music superstar carol pester .— currie and music superstar carol pester. try— currie and music superstar carol decker. my mark— currie and music superstar carol decker . my mark meets guest currie and music superstar carol decker. my mark meets guest is nooetttno— decker. my mark meets guest is modelling icon— decker. my mark meets guest is modelling icon sam fox. i'll be osttno— modelling icon sam fox. i'll be osttno .— modelling icon sam fox. i'll be asking, should— modelling icon sam fox. i'll be asking , should the sun modelling icon sam fox. i'll be asking, should the sun bring

next good evening. i'm tatiana sanchezin good evening. i'm tatiana sanchez in the newsroom. passengers widespread passengers have faced widespread disruption today due to the latest strikes. latest round of train strikes. members aslef union have members of the aslef union have been out at than been walking out at more than a dozen operators in their dozen train operators in their long running dispute over pay . long running dispute over pay. the disruption continues into tomorrow as rmt members will go on strike on the day of the eurovision song contest final in liverpool. further strikes by the union will be held on the sist the union will be held on the 31st of may and the 3rd of june. the day of the fa cup final at wembley. rail minister huw merriman gb the merriman told gb news the strikes are disappointing . we

strikes are disappointing. we have