all of our live on gb news tv and on your radio tonight for donkey's years , we've been told donkey's years, we've been told earth is overpopulated . but is earth is overpopulated. but is it really? we'll have both sides of the story. we'll be finding out why an ancient roman wall discovered beneath the city of london has been granted the highest level of heritage protection and why i believe we're being led up the garden path by the powers that be yet again and always . all of that again and always. all of that and more coming up. but first,

and more coming up. but first, an update on latest news from tatiana sanchez . neil, thank you tatiana sanchez. neil, thank you very— tatiana sanchez. neil, thank you very much— tatiana sanchez. neil, thank you very much and— tatiana sanchez. neil, thank you very much and good— f neil, thank you very much and good evening. this is the— very much and good evening. this is the latest— very much and good evening. this is the latest from _ very much and good evening. this is the latest from the newsroom a cau— is the latest from the newsroom a can hee— is the latest from the newsroom a call has been— is the latest from the newsroom a call has been made for a special— a call has been made for a special summit— a call has been made for a special summit to bring an end to the— special summit to bring an end to the toxic— special summit to bring an end to the toxic rail— special summit to bring an end to the toxic rail dispute. rmt unen— to the toxic rail dispute. rmt bese— to the toxic rail dispute. rmt union boss mick— to the toxic rail dispute. rmt union boss mick lynch has written— union boss mick lynch has wrttter te— union boss mick lynch has written to the— union boss mick lynch has written to the government eetttre — written to the government eetttre ter— written to the government calling for a— written to the government calling for a meeting with an trtepertert— calling for a meeting with an independent chair. if necessary, to ent— independent chair. if necessary, to end what— independent chair. if necessary, to end what he's— independent chair. if necessary, to end what he's described as eteee— to end what he's described as eteee er— to end what he's described as eteee or the— to end what he's described as chaos on the railways . it comes chaos on the railways. it comes as passengers— chaos on the railways. it comes as passengers face— chaos on the railways. it comes as passengers face another day of as passengers face another day et tteruptter— as passengers face another day of disruption with— as passengers face another day of disruption with workers again joining— of disruption with workers again joining the— of disruption with workers again joining the picket— of disruption with workers again joining the picket lines. more etrttee— joining the picket lines. more etrttee ere— joining the picket lines. more strikes are set— joining the picket lines. more strikes are set to _ joining the picket lines. more strikes are set to be held on tree— strikes are set to be held on the stet— strikes are set to be held on the set et— strikes are set to be held on the 31st of may— strikes are set to be held on the 31st of may and the 3rd of tune. — the 31st of may and the 3rd of tune. that-e— the 31st of may and the 3rd of june. that's the— the 31st of may and the 3rd of june. that's the day of the fa cup— june. that's the day of the fa cup treet— june. that's the day of the fa cup ttret et— june. that's the day of the fa cup final at wembley. the union's general— cup final at wembley. the union's general secretary is ttemtrg— union's general secretary is ttemtrg tree— union's general secretary is blaming the government for tetttre— blaming the government for tetttre te— blaming the government for failing to negotiate . " failing to negotiate. this government— failing to negotiate. this government is- failing to negotiate. this government is determined to keep this dispute going because they've got issues in in health care and with the nurses and the doctors, with the teachers , and doctors, with the teachers, and they're trying to clamp down on working people's pay. so that

they can transfer that wealth to they can transfer that wealth to the rich people of this society, where dividends and profits are up.the where dividends and profits are up. the stock exchange is up, the economy is growing. but they want to do that on the basis of low pay. and we're not prepared to accept that. protests workers have been demonstrating against the proposed ulez expansion plan . motorists were beeping their terre— . motorists were beeping their tome tr— . motorists were beeping their tome tr support— motorists were beeping their horns in support of the protesters— horns in support of the protesters in- horns in support of the protesters in orpington. the meerre— protesters in orpington. the mayor's proposal to expand the utte— mayor's proposal to expand the ettre tetr— mayor's proposal to expand the ultra low emission— mayor's proposal to expand the ultra low emission zone could petemttetty— ultra low emission zone could potentially reach— ultra low emission zone could potentially reach the kent teeter— potentially reach the kent terter ty— potentially reach the kent border by august. some outer temtem— border by august. some outer london boroughs,— border by august. some outer london boroughs, along with surrey— london boroughs, along with surrey county— london boroughs, along with surrey county council, launched teeet— surrey county council, launched teget eettem— surrey county council, launched legal action in— surrey county council, launched legal action in february over the— legal action in february over me preeeeet— legal action in february over the proposed extension. protesters— the proposed extension. protesters say it will hurt them tmemetetty— protesters say it will hurt them financiallv- — protesters say it will hurt them financially . on— protesters say it will hurt them financially . on my- protesters say it will hurt them financially. o" protesters say it will hurt them financially . g: g financially. on my own gardening business, i've just had to fork out nearly £30,000 for a new van thatis out nearly £30,000 for a new van that is ulez compliant in a cost of living crisis . it's adding of living crisis. it's adding extra cash bills onto people's already inflated outgoings. it's just it's totally unnecessary

andifs just it's totally unnecessary and it's totally brutal in all honesty. the and it's totally brutal in all honesty . the labour leader says honesty. the labour leader says rte-e— honesty. the labour leader says te-e ready— honesty. the labour leader says te-e ready ter— honesty. the labour leader says me-e reety ter e— honesty. the labour leader says he's ready for a dirty— the labour leader says he's ready for a dirty and nasty eemeetem— he's ready for a dirty and nasty campaign ahead— he's ready for a dirty and nasty campaign ahead of next year's eemeret— campaign ahead of next year's general election.— campaign ahead of next year's general election. sir keir stermer— general election. sir keir starmer used— general election. sir keir starmer used a speech at the rregreeetre— starmer used a speech at the progressive britain conference to progressive britain conference te eettme— progressive britain conference to outline his— progressive britain conference to outline his vision for the party,— to outline his vision for the petty, remem— to outline his vision for the party, which involves changing the entre— party, which involves changing the entire culture. he also etmtttet— the entire culture. he also admitted more— the entire culture. he also admitted more work needs to be tene— admitted more work needs to be teme te— admitted more work needs to be done to reconnect— admitted more work needs to be done to reconnect with working eeeete. — done to reconnect with working eeeete. me— done to reconnect with working people. the labour party will only— people. the labour party will emty reeeret— people. the labour party will only restore hope in the country . mete— only restore hope in the country . mottv rt— only restore hope in the country . ttetty rt we— only restore hope in the country . motty if we once— only restore hope in the country . motty if we once again become the natural vehicle for working people. an agent for their hopes and aspirations , a party of the and aspirations, a party of the common good . now, some people common good. now, some people think that all we're doing is distancing ourselves from the previous regime. well we are, but that misses the point. this is about taking our party back to where we belong . a nurse from to where we belong. a nurse from devon to where we belong. a nurse from eerem mee—

to where we belong. a nurse from eerem tee em— to where we belong. a nurse from eerem tee e— d a nurse from devon has won a £200,000 prize for devon has won a £200,000 prize ter ter— devon has won a £200,000 prize ter mer wett— devon has won a £200,000 prize for her work in— devon has won a £200,000 prize for her work in improving ttetetee— for her work in improving diabetes care.— for her work in improving diabetes care. margaret shepherd trem— diabetes care. margaret shepherd trem teeter— diabetes care. margaret shepherd from exeter was— diabetes care. margaret shepherd from exeter was chosen from over teeee — from exeter was chosen from over 50,000 medical— from exeter was chosen from over 50,000 medical colleagues across the etete— 50,000 medical colleagues across the etete .— 50,000 medical colleagues across the gtete . me— 50,000 medical colleagues across the globe . the 60— 50,000 medical colleagues across the globe . the 60 year old won the globe. the 60 year old won the globe. the 60 year old won the aste— the globe. the 60 year old won the asta guardian— the globe. the 60 year old won the asta guardian global nursing attem— the asta guardian global nursing awert ter— the asta guardian global nursing award for raising— the asta guardian global nursing award for raising awareness of the condition. _ award for raising awareness of the condition. she's set up a meter— the condition. she's set up a metwert et— the condition. she's set up a network of genetic diabetes nurses and has— network of genetic diabetes nurses and has become the teetme— nurses and has become the teetmg meme— nurses and has become the leading nurse for monogenic ttetetee— leading nurse for monogenic ttetetee m— leading nurse for monogenic diabetes in the— leading nurse for monogenic diabetes in the uk. leading nurse for monogenic diabetes in the uk . president diabetes in the uk. president zetemtyr— diabetes in the uk. president zetemetyy mee— diabetes in the uk. president zelenskyy has met with the pope to zelenskyy has met with the pope te tteeeee— zelenskyy has met with the pope to discuss the _ zelenskyy has met with the pope to discuss the peace mission to eme— to discuss the peace mission to end me— to discuss the peace mission to end the wet— to discuss the peace mission to end the war with— to discuss the peace mission to end the war with russia. it's his end the war with russia. it's we met— end the war with russia. it's me ttret me— end the war with russia. it's his first trip to— end the war with russia. it's his first trip to italy since weeewe— his first trip to italy since moscow invaded ukraine in tetmew— moscow invaded ukraine in february teet— moscow invaded ukraine in february last year. moscow invaded ukraine in february last year . the february last year. the ukrainian— february last year. the ukrainian president has also mett— ukrainian president has also met tette— ukrainian president has also held talks with— ukrainian president has also held talks with italian government - held talks with italian government officials , including government officials, including rrtme— government officials, including prime minister— government officials, including prime minister giorgia meloni eme— prime minister giorgia meloni met the— prime minister giorgia meloni and the italian— prime minister giorgia meloni and the italian president, serete— and the italian president, sergio mattarella . now momentum sergio mattarella. now momentum is sergio mattarella. now momentum te twtttme— sergio mattarella. now momentum is building ahead— sergio mattarella. now momentum is building ahead of tonight's tmet— is building ahead of tonight's ttmet et— is building ahead of tonight's ttmet et tre— is building ahead of tonight's final of the eurovision song cemteet— final of the eurovision song cemteet m— final of the eurovision song contest in liverpool. the uk's entw— contest in liverpool. the uk's emtrw ,— contest in liverpool. the uk's emtrw , trey— contest in liverpool. the uk's entry , may miller, who will entry, may miller, who will eerterm— entry, may miller, who will eerterm ._ entry, may miller, who will perform i wrote— entry, may miller, who will perform i wrote a song, says ere-e— perform i wrote a song, says ete-e reetw— perform i wrote a song, says ete-e reetw te— perform i wrote a song, says she's ready to get the show on me— she's ready to get the show on the reed. — she's ready to get the show on the road. she's— she's ready to get the show on the road. she's one of 26 acts to the road. she's one of 26 acts te eeeeer— the road. she's one of 26 acts

to appear before— the road. she's one of 26 acts to appear before an estimated etetet— to appear before an estimated global audience— to appear before an estimated global audience of 160 million me— global audience of160 million viewers. the uk— global audience of 160 million viewers. the uk agreed to host the eemteet— viewers. the uk agreed to host the contest on— viewers. the uk agreed to host the contest on behalf of last weer-e— the contest on behalf of last year's winner, ukraine, and these— year's winner, ukraine, and these tem— year's winner, ukraine, and these fans are— year's winner, ukraine, and these fans are very excited for temtett— these fans are very excited for temtett .— these fans are very excited for temtett . — these fans are very excited for temtgtt . rt— these fans are very excited for tonight . it feels— these fans are very excited for tonight . c c tonight. it feels like a home abroad . that's why it's like abroad. that's why it's like really, we're so proud to be here. so proud that people in the uk are supporting us in everything and we are so grateful about this. well listen, i'm so proud to be from this city and i just hope are doing ukraine proud. and i just doing ukraine proud. and ijust hope doing ukraine proud. and ijust hope eweemrwe-e— doing ukraine proud. and ijust hope everyone's going- doing ukraine proud. and ijust hope everyone's going to- ctr» g : and ijust hope everyone's going to have a ten— hope everyone's going to have a tett tetew— hope everyone's going to have a tett tetew .— hope everyone's going to have a tett tetew . ee— hope everyone's going to have a ball today . da la— hope everyone's going to have a ball today . da la la la la. ball today. da la la la la. meteew— ball today. da la la la la. meteet. ._ ball today. da la la la la. instead, i wrote— ball today. da la la la la. instead, i wrote a- ball today. da la la la la. instead, i wrote a song- ball today. da la la la la. : 3 well, instead, i wrote a song. well, the eurovision host— : 3 well, the eurovision host graham wetter— the eurovision host graham wettem sewe— the eurovision host graham norton says the— the eurovision host graham norton says the calibre of eertermere— norton says the calibre of performers has- norton says the calibre of performers has excelled over the wee— performers has excelled over the weere ._ performers has excelled over the years. i personally— performers has excelled over the years. i personally think we're going— years. i personally think we're gemg tmewgt— years. i personally think we're gemg tmewgm e— years. i personally think we're going through a kind of golden age going through a kind of golden eee et— going through a kind of golden age of eurovision. ”cage age of eurovision. i really ttmt— age of eurovision. i really think the shows for the last few years have been great, great, really good songs . and i think really good songs. and i think

that that time of, you know, there was always a kind of a nostalgia thing and a kitschy thing and a campy thing, and there's a little bit of that left. but actually now it's just a bunch of great pop songs , a bunch of great pop songs, culture secretary lucy frazer says the priority of the contest is to celebrate ukraine. what we've tried to ensure- f what we've tried to ensure that here in we've tried to ensure that here m ttwemeet— we've tried to ensure that here in liverpool there's a huge eweeert— in liverpool there's a huge eweeert ter— in liverpool there's a huge support for ukraine, a collaboration with ukraine, an eeeertwmttw— collaboration with ukraine, an eeeertwmttw te— collaboration with ukraine, an opportunity to showcase ukraine. and opportunity to showcase ukraine. amt twe— opportunity to showcase ukraine. me we met— opportunity to showcase ukraine. and i've just been— opportunity to showcase ukraine. and i've just been with the ewttwe— and i've just been with the culture minister— and i've just been with the culture minister for ukraine and tree— culture minister for ukraine and he's overwhelmed— culture minister for ukraine and he's overwhelmed by the support that he's overwhelmed by the support tmet tee-e— he's overwhelmed by the support that he's seeing— he's overwhelmed by the support that he's seeing here in twemeet— that he's seeing here in ttwemeet .— that he's seeing here in liverpool . now, a 99 year old liverpool. now, a 99 year old woman's lifelong— liverpool. now, a 99 year old woman's lifelong dream to have tmtwee— woman's lifelong dream to have knives thrown— woman's lifelong dream to have knives thrown at— woman's lifelong dream to have knives thrown at her has come true— knives thrown at her has come true . — knives thrown at her has come true . teem-t— knives thrown at her has come true . don't worry,- knives thrown at her has come true . don't worry, it- knives thrown at her has come true . jtzzt" c c knives thrown at her has come true . jtzzr" c c true. don't worry, it was all part of an act and the former circus worker couldn't wait to step back into the ring , having step back into the ring, having blades hurled at her by a professional arnie .gov , who professional arnie .gov, who turns 100 in august. she asked to be part of the performance as a birthday treat. she said she

really enjoyed the experience and was ready for the next one. and finally, special behind the scenes footage has been released from the kings coronation the prince and princess of wales have published a five minute video on their official youtube channel, including footage of them in their coronation robes before being taken to westminster abbey royal fans also have the chance to see prince louis and princess charlotte preparing to leave home at kensington palace on the morning of the service online. dab+ radio and on tune in. this is gb news. now back to . is gb news. now back to. neil when did we get used to being led up the garden path by government and parliament and to turning a blind eye to it? i was just so battered and g t: 7 iwas just so battered and bruised, so tettteretetw— just so battered and bruised, so deliberately demoralised by the

last deliberately demoralised by the teet twee— deliberately demoralised by the last three and— deliberately demoralised by the last three and a— deliberately demoralised by the last three and a half years that for last three and a half years that ter meet— last three and a half years that ter meet eeeete— last three and a half years that for most people the effort of etmgme— for most people the effort of etmgmg em— for most people the effort of etmgmg em te— for most people the effort of clinging on to daily life is terme— clinging on to daily life is tetmg ewerw— clinging on to daily life is taking every ounce strength taking every ounce of strength up. taking every ounce of strength we. rte— taking every ounce of strength we. we ett— taking every ounce of strength up. it's all around us now , up. it's all around us now, ttetemt— up. it's all around us now, blatant and— up. it's all around us now, blatant and shameless . are we so blatant and shameless. are we so exmewetete— blatant and shameless. are we so exhausted? we've— blatant and shameless. are we so exhausted? we've started taking it exhausted? we've started taking tt ter— exhausted? we've started taking tt ter eremtet— exhausted? we've started taking it for granted that— exhausted? we've started taking it for granted that members of rerttememt— it for granted that members of parliament will— it for granted that members of parliament will routinely say treme— parliament will routinely say one thing and— parliament will routinely say one thing and then do another. tet— one thing and then do another. but where— one thing and then do another. but where are— one thing and then do another. but where are the— one thing and then do another. but where are the howls of ewtreee — but where are the howls of ewtreee et— but where are the howls of outrage at what— but where are the howls of outrage at what seems to me like meeeeemt— outrage at what seems to me like meeeeemt lying?— outrage at what seems to me like incessant lying? history tells us politicians— incessant lying? history tells us politicians have always lied. me— us politicians have always lied. the difference— us politicians have always lied. the difference now is that it teeem-t— the difference now is that it doesn't seem _ the difference now is that it doesn't seem to— the difference now is that it doesn't seem to matter whether we mettee— doesn't seem to matter whether we mettee er— doesn't seem to matter whether we notice or not.— doesn't seem to matter whether we notice or not. last week, remt — we notice or not. last week, kemi badenoch_ we notice or not. last week, kemi badenoch announced another u—twm— kemi badenoch announced another u—twm u—twme— kemi badenoch announced another u—turn u—turns are— kemi badenoch announced another u—turn u—turns are routine now, etwtewetw— u—turn u—turns are routine now, etwtewetw, eme— u—turn u—turns are routine now, obviously, and this— u—turn u—turns are routine now, obviously, and this one was meet— obviously, and this one was etewt going— obviously, and this one was about going back on a promise to eeree— about going back on a promise to scrap thousands— about going back on a promise to scrap thousands of— about going back on a promise to scrap thousands of european tmtem— scrap thousands of european umem tewe— scrap thousands of european union laws. the— scrap thousands of european union laws. the reality of the u—twm— union laws. the reality of the u—twm eeme— union laws. the reality of the u—turn came camouflaged in all eerte— u—turn came camouflaged in all eerte et— u—turn came camouflaged in all sorts of weasel— u—turn came camouflaged in all sorts of weasel words, but underneath— sorts of weasel words, but underneath the- sorts of weasel words, but underneath the smokescreen, the truth — underneath the smokescreen, the truth wee— underneath the smokescreen, the truth was undeniable . all while truth was undeniable. all while eemeetgmmg— truth was undeniable. all while eemeetgmmg te— truth was undeniable. all while campaigning to be prime wmteter,— campaigning to be prime minister, rishi sunak talked tewttw— minister, rishi sunak talked tewttw etewt— minister, rishi sunak talked loudly about reviewing and reeeetme— loudly about reviewing and repealing those laws in the eetrtt— repealing those laws in the eetrtt et— repealing those laws in the spirit of getting brexit done. he encouraged— spirit of getting brexit done. he encouraged people to think he was he encouraged people to think he ett— he encouraged people to think he ett etewt— he encouraged people to think he was all about leaving the eu . he was all about leaving the eu. he etttt— was all about leaving the eu. he etttt etetme— was all about leaving the eu. he

still claims to— was all about leaving the eu. he still claims to be— was all about leaving the eu. he still claims to be in— was all about leaving the eu. he still claims to be in favour of text,— still claims to be in favour of text, tw— still claims to be in favour of text, tw tre— still claims to be in favour of brexit, by the way, but badenoch came clattering _ brexit, by the way, but badenoch came clattering on— brexit, by the way, but badenoch came clattering on stage from the wmee— came clattering on stage from me wmge teet— came clattering on stage from the wings last week, presumably emewet— the wings last week, presumably etewet em— the wings last week, presumably etewet em tw— the wings last week, presumably shoved on by sunak maybe etemtme— shoved on by sunak maybe etemtme em— shoved on by sunak maybe standing on a— shoved on by sunak maybe standing on a box to do so, to tweet— standing on a box to do so, to tweet tre— standing on a box to do so, to break the news.— standing on a box to do so, to break the news. surprise, ewmrtee— break the news. surprise, surprise that— break the news. surprise, surprise that another of weetertew-e— surprise that another of yesterday's promises was today's tetrewet— yesterday's promises was today's tetrewet .— yesterday's promises was today's tetrewet . treet— yesterday's promises was today's betrayal . most of— yesterday's promises was today's betrayal . most of those laws betrayal. most of those laws wttt— betrayal. most of those laws will remain.— betrayal. most of those laws will remain. i'll— betrayal. most of those laws will remain. i'll be honest and say— will remain. i'll be honest and eew ._ will remain. i'll be honest and eew . tet— will remain. i'll be honest and eew t me te— will remain. i'll be honest and say i had to look— will remain. i'll be honest and say i had to look up kemi eetemeem— say i had to look up kemi badenoch job— say i had to look up kemi badenoch job title again. she's ewetmeee— badenoch job title again. she's business secretary. apparently my business secretary. apparently mw reeegmteme— business secretary. apparently my recognising her while simultaneously not knowing exeettw— simultaneously not knowing exeettwwmet— simultaneously not knowing exactly what she's supposed to be exactly what she's supposed to te terme— exactly what she's supposed to te teme te— exactly what she's supposed to te temg te teet— exactly what she's supposed to be doing is just a— exactly what she's supposed to be doing is just a symptom of mew— be doing is just a symptom of mew ._ be doing is just a symptom of mew . me— be doing is just a symptom of how i no longer— be doing is just a symptom of how i no longer bother committing— how i no longer bother committing to memory what any of meee— committing to memory what any of tteee-etetm — committing to memory what any of tteee-etetm te— committing to memory what any of these-claim to be- committing to memory what any of these claim to be doing these jokers claim to be doing on these jokers claim to be doing em-temett.— these jokers claim to be doing on-behalf. to— these jokers claim to be doing on-behalf. to me,- these jokers claim to be doing on behalf. to me, the on our behalf. to me, the various holders- on our behalf. to me, the- various holders-that various holders of this or that gewemmemt— various holders of this or that government portfolio are just eeeertet—emtl government portfolio are just. assorted—and legs assorted heads, arms and legs ettetme— assorted heads, arms and legs ettetme eut— assorted heads, arms and legs sticking out amorphous sticking out of an amorphous ttet— sticking out of an amorphous blob-slides— sticking out of an amorphous blob slides around in my blob that slides around in my eertemeret— blob that slides around in my peripheral vision, leaving a teen— peripheral vision, leaving a trett et— peripheral vision, leaving a trail of lies— peripheral vision, leaving a trail of lies in— peripheral vision, leaving a trail of lies in its slippery were,— trail of lies in its slippery were, me— trail of lies in its slippery wake, the giant slug of state, a straightforward _ wake, the giant slug of state, a straightforward person would reeeemettw— straightforward person would reasonably say— straightforward person would reasonably say promising eemetmme— reasonably say promising something and then breaking the meme— something and then breaking the eremtee wee— something and then breaking the promise was tantamount to lying in promise was tantamount to lying m the— promise was tantamount to lying m the wet— promise was tantamount to lying in the first place,— promise was tantamount to lying in the first place, especially when— in the first place, especially when promising— in the first place, especially when promising and then breaking the meme— when promising and then breaking the promise becomes an unmistakeable pattern of

tetewew— unmistakeable pattern of behaviour ._ unmistakeable pattern of behaviour. when the so—called vaccines were _ behaviour. when the so—called vaccines were rolled out, the entre— vaccines were rolled out, the entire effort— vaccines were rolled out, the entire effort to— vaccines were rolled out, the entire effort to get it into ewerw— entire effort to get it into ewerw em— entire effort to get it into ewerw m— entire effort to get it into every arm in this country and erewmt— every arm in this country and erewmt me— every arm in this country and around the world— every arm in this country and around the world was predicated on around the world was predicated em tre— around the world was predicated em tree-treet— around the world was predicated on the-that taking- around the world was predicated on the that taking the jab on the claim that taking the jab went— on the claim that taking the jab wasn't-individual- wasn't about the individual preteetme— wasn't about the individual protecting herself from protecting him or herself from cowe— protecting him or herself from covm. rather,— protecting him or herself from covm. rather, it— protecting him or herself from covid. rather, it was about metme— covid. rather, it was about metmg ee— covid. rather, it was about making sure none of us would eeee— making sure none of us would eeee cowe— making sure none of us would eeee cevte em— making sure none of us would pass covid on to— making sure none of us would pass covid on to anyone else . i pass covid on to anyone else. i went— pass covid on to anyone else. i went tewe— pass covid on to anyone else. i didn't take the— pass covid on to anyone else. i didn't take the jab,— pass covid on to anyone else. i didn't take the jab, unlike the teet— didn't take the jab, unlike the reet et— didn't take the jab, unlike the reet et tre— didn't take the jab, unlike the rest of the unjabbed i was told i rest of the unjabbed i was told . wee— rest of the unjabbed i was told . e— rest of the unjabbed i was told i was a murderous— rest of the unjabbed i was told i was a murderous monster. only werw— i was a murderous monster. only werw reeemttw— i was a murderous monster. only werw reeemttw ete— i was a murderous monster. only very recently did it— i was a murderous monster. only very recently did it come to wett— very recently did it come to ttett trem — very recently did it come to light from pfizer, revealed meter— light from pfizer, revealed under pressure— light from pfizer, revealed under pressure that at no point tetere— under pressure that at no point tetere tre— under pressure that at no point before the jabs— under pressure that at no point before the jabs were rolled out wee-eemeemw— before the jabs were rolled out was company asked to was the company even asked to teet— was the company even asked to teetltme— was the company even asked to testlthe product— was the company even asked to test the product would test if the product would prevent— test if the product would prevent transmission of covid. i reeeet— prevent transmission of covid. i repeat me— prevent transmission of covid. i repeat me eem— prevent transmission of covid. i repeat, no such tests were reewtret— repeat, no such tests were reewtret .— repeat, no such tests were required . covid far less carried required. covid far less carried out required. covid far less carried ewt .— required. covid far less carried ewt . tme— required. covid far less carried out. this means— required. covid far less carried out. this means the whole psyops meee— out. this means the whole psyops metee wett— out. this means the whole psyops nudge unit campaign to shame eeeete— nudge unit campaign to shame eeeete mte— nudge unit campaign to shame people into taking the jabs and tereme— people into taking the jabs and tereme em— people into taking the jabs and forcing on their— people into taking the jabs and forcing on their kids as well. in forcing on their kids as well. m the— forcing on their kids as well. m the eemt— forcing on their kids as well. in the spirit of— forcing on their kids as well. in the spirit of protecting ethere— in the spirit of protecting etmere wee— in the spirit of protecting others was a _ in the spirit of protecting others was a lie . the knowledge others was a lie. the knowledge met— others was a lie. the knowledge tmet we— others was a lie. the knowledge tmet we wee— others was a lie. the knowledge that we were lied— others was a lie. the knowledge that we were lied to in this meet— that we were lied to in this most despicable way is out there tee— most despicable way is out there tee teem— most despicable way is out there now, has been for— most despicable way is out there now, has been for months . and now, has been for months. and yet now, has been for months. and wet-ere— now, has been for months. and wet-ere me— now, has been for months. and yet are the mainstream yet where are the mainstream metre—emer- media headlines? driven by rtetteewe— media headlines? driven by rtgmteewe-e- media headlines? driven by righteous-? it's- media headlines? driven by righteous ? it's an old righteous anger? it's an old tewmtettem— righteous anger? it's an old foundation of—

righteous anger? it's an old foundation of legal proceedings met— foundation of legal proceedings met me— foundation of legal proceedings met me wre— foundation of legal proceedings that he who remains silent is deemed— that he who remains silent is deemed-have— that he who remains silent is deemed have granted his deemed to have granted his eeemt— deemed to have granted his consent . but— deemed to have granted his consent . but if— deemed to have granted his consent . but if we don't demand consent. but if we don't demand the— consent. but if we don't demand this behaviour— consent. but if we don't demand this behaviour stops, it will keep— this behaviour stops, it will keep happening . and so i ask keep happening. and so i ask eeem— keep happening. and so i ask eeem ee— keep happening. and so i ask eeem, we— keep happening. and so i ask again, are we saying it's okay by again, are we saying it's okay tw we— again, are we saying it's okay tw we ter— again, are we saying it's okay by us for government and parliament— by us for government and parliament lead us up the parliament to lead us up the getter— parliament to lead us up the eertem pett— parliament to lead us up the garden path -to- parliament to lead us up the garden path to us as well garden path to lie to us as well as garden path to lie to us as well ee terme— garden path to lie to us as well as being treated— garden path to lie to us as well as being treated like gullible teete— as being treated like gullible teete wttm— as being treated like gullible fools with the _ as being treated like gullible fools with the memory spans of eettttem— fools with the memory spans of gettttem ee— fools with the memory spans of goldfish? do . also - fools with the memory spans of goldfish? do also accept that goldfish? do we also accept that a goldfish? do we also accept that e eewemmemt— goldfish? do we also accept that a government-what- goldfish? do we also accept that a government what it a government can do what it twee— a government can do what it likes without _ a government can do what it likes without even bothering to eemewtt— likes without even bothering to eemewtt-wee— likes without even bothering to consult - us? the - likes without even bothering to consult us? the taxpayer consult with us? the taxpayer eme— consult with us? the taxpayer and electorate?— consult with us? the taxpayer and electorate? i— consult with us? the taxpayer and electorate? i for one, do met— and electorate? i for one, do met rememert— and electorate? i for one, do not remember saying it was okay for not remember saying it was okay ter eewemmemt— not remember saying it was okay for government to _ not remember saying it was okay for government to lead us up. met— for government to lead us up. met getter— for government to lead us up. that garden path— for government to lead us up. that garden path to mislead us, to that garden path to mislead us, te tetrew— that garden path to mislead us, te tetrew we— that garden path to mislead us, te tetrew te— that garden path to mislead us, to betray us, to lie— that garden path to mislead us, to betray us, to lie to our tee— to betray us, to lie to our tee ._ to betray us, to lie to our faces. i remember giving faces. i don't remember giving mem— faces. i don't remember giving them-emeet— faces. i don't remember giving them ahead either to just them the go ahead either to just do them the go ahead either to just te wtetewer— them the go ahead either to just do whatever they— them the go ahead either to just do whatever they want without so mwem — do whatever they want without so mwem -bv_ do whatever they want without so mwem -tw ew— do whatever they want without so much -by our leave. - do whatever they want without so much by our leave. do you? much as a by our leave. do you? i much as a by our leave. do you? . weet— much as a by our leave. do you? . weet te— much as a by our leave. do you? i used to wonder— much as a by our leave. do you? i used to wonder why david cemeem— i used to wonder why david cameron allowed himself to be the cameron allowed himself to be tree-mem— cameron allowed himself to be tme-mem ter— cameron allowed himself to be the man for letting the the front man for letting the meet— the front man for letting the erextt—meeeeml the front man for letting the brexit happen in the front man for letting the- brexit_happen in the brexit referendum happen in the first brexit referendum happen in the met-we— brexit referendum happen in the first-no matter- brexit referendum happen in the first no matter how first place. no matter how eemttemt— first place. no matter how confident masters might have confident his masters might have teem— confident his masters might have teem-eeemt,— confident his masters might have been-result, why- confident his masters might have been result, why take been about the result, why take the been about the result, why take tree-newe— been about the result, why take tme-mewe rt— been about the result, why take the - now? it seems - been about the result, why take the now? it seems to me the chance now? it seems to me the— the chance now? it seems to me the vete— the chance now? it seems to me the wete meter— the chance now? it seems to me the vote never mattered. the teetetem— the vote never mattered. the teetetem tw— the vote never mattered. the decision by 52%_ the vote never mattered. the decision by 52% of the electorate _ decision by 52% of the electorate to - decision by 52% of the electorate to leave the eu made

for electorate to leave the eu made ter eeme— electorate to leave the eu made for some theatrics_ electorate to leave the eu made for some theatrics in parliament,- for some theatrics in parliament, but they're good at tteetrtee— parliament, but they're good at tmeetrtee m— parliament, but they're good at theatrics in parliament. but in theatrics in parliament. but in the end,— theatrics in parliament. but in the end, though,— theatrics in parliament. but in the end, though, a vote to leave or the end, though, a vote to leave er e vete— the end, though, a vote to leave er e wete te— the end, though, a vote to leave or a vote to stay— the end, though, a vote to leave or a vote to stay had been of no metter— or a vote to stay had been of no matter whatever— or a vote to stay had been of no matter whatever because those eteweetme — playacting parliamentarians tet— playacting parliamentarians never had any— playacting parliamentarians never had any intention of tettme— never had any intention of tettme tre— never had any intention of letting the vote stop. britain eemtmwme— letting the vote stop. britain continuing to— letting the vote stop. britain continuing to submit in every meemmetwt— continuing to submit in every meaningful way— continuing to submit in every meaningful way to the eu . but meaningful way to the eu. but eettme— meaningful way to the eu. but eettme eette— meaningful way to the eu. but setting aside brexit as parliament— setting aside brexit as parliament effectively did back in parliament effectively did back tm zom— parliament effectively did back m eee, tre— parliament effectively did back in 2016, the bigger problem we teee— in 2016, the bigger problem we teee te— in 2016, the bigger problem we teee te tre— in 2016, the bigger problem we face is the reality— in 2016, the bigger problem we face is the reality parliament ewtemttw— face is the reality parliament ewtemttw me— face is the reality parliament evidently no longer cares what the electorate _ evidently no longer cares what the electorate thinks. to eereemreee— the electorate thinks. to eereemeee e— the electorate thinks. to paraphrase a us comedian, george certm— paraphrase a us comedian, george certm ,— paraphrase a us comedian, george certm , tt-e— paraphrase a us comedian, george certm , tt-e e— paraphrase a us comedian, george certm , tt-e e big— paraphrase a us comedian, george carlin , it's a big club and we carlin, it's a big club and we em-t— carlin, it's a big club and we em-t m— carlin, it's a big club and we em-t m t.— carlin, it's a big club and we ain't in it. our— carlin, it's a big club and we ain't in it. our noses are just eeme— ain't in it. our noses are just being rwttet— ain't in it. our noses are just being rubbed in— ain't in it. our noses are just being rubbed in their contempt for being rubbed in their contempt ter we— being rubbed in their contempt for us, presumably until our teeee— for us, presumably until our faces are as smooth as the backs of faces are as smooth as the backs et eeemee— faces are as smooth as the backs of spoons. their— faces are as smooth as the backs of spoons. their contempt for us is of spoons. their contempt for us te ewerwwtere. — of spoons. their contempt for us is everywhere. does— of spoons. their contempt for us is everywhere. does anyone remember voting for rishi sunak as remember voting for rishi sunak ee rrtme— remember voting for rishi sunak as prime minister— remember voting for rishi sunak as prime minister or jeremy hunt as prime minister orjeremy hunt as prime minister orjeremy hunt as chancellor?— as prime minister orjeremy hunt as chancellor? no.— as prime minister orjeremy hunt as chancellor? no. that's teee— as chancellor? no. that's because we— as chancellor? no. that's because we didn't. our thoughts on because we didn't. our thoughts em tre— because we didn't. our thoughts em the meter— because we didn't. our thoughts on the matter didn't matter a. t hey— on the matter didn't matter a. mew teettet— on the matter didn't matter a. they decided all— on the matter didn't matter a. they decided all of that for themselves— they decided all of that for themselves behind closed doors. weee— themselves behind closed doors. weee ewee— themselves behind closed doors. does anyone remember voting for the does anyone remember voting for me eeeettttttw— does anyone remember voting for the possibility of— does anyone remember voting for the possibility of lockdowns in

a the possibility of lockdowns in e ee—eettet— the possibility of lockdowns in a so—called emergency ? and a so—called emergency? and tttewtee— a so—called emergency? and likewise for— a so—called emergency? and likewise for mandates for ee—eettet— likewise for mandates for so—called vaccines and eemewteerw— so—called vaccines and compulsory mask wearing? does ewee— compulsory mask wearing? does anyone remember— compulsory mask wearing? does anyone remember seeing a memtteet— anyone remember seeing a manifest nato— anyone remember seeing a manifest nato pledge making etem— manifest nato pledge making were met— manifest nato pledge making plain that parliament could tewe— plain that parliament could trtwe me— plain that parliament could drive the economy off a cliff if it drive the economy off a cliff if tt tett— drive the economy off a cliff if tt tett me— drive the economy off a cliff if it felt the need?— drive the economy off a cliff if it felt the need? does anyone remember-the- it felt the need? does anyone. remember-the suicide remember voting for the suicide meter— remember voting for the suicide meter-te— remember voting for the suicide meter-re met— remember voting for the suicide note?-is net zero- remember voting for the suicide note?-is net zero or- remember voting for the suicide note? is net zero or to let note? that is net zero or to let me— note? that is net zero or to let the wette— note? that is net zero or to let the world health— note? that is net zero or to let the world health organisation teete— the world health organisation teette m— the world health organisation decide in future— the world health organisation decide in future what a pandemic is decide in future what a pandemic te te— decide in future what a pandemic te te tet— decide in future what a pandemic is to let unelected,_ is to let unelected, unaccountable nonentities is to let unelected,_ unaccountable nonentities living tax unaccountable nonentities living textree— unaccountable nonentities living tee tree m— unaccountable nonentities living tax free in switzerland and ereteetet— tax free in switzerland and preteetet tw— tax free in switzerland and protected by diplomatic tmmwmttw— protected by diplomatic immunity, shut us in our homes were— immunity, shut us in our homes tree m— immunity, shut us in our homes tree m emem— immunity, shut us in our homes here in britain to— immunity, shut us in our homes here in britain to let them teete— here in britain to let them decide what _ here in britain to let them decide what information is the trwtm— decide what information is the trwtt eme— decide what information is the truth and what— decide what information is the truth and what information is tree— truth and what information is ttee .— truth and what information is ttee . weee— truth and what information is lies . does anyone? does anyone lies. does anyone? does anyone rememert wetme— lies. does anyone? does anyone remember voting for 15 minute emettee— remember voting for 15 minute emettee wtere — remember voting for 15 minute ghettos where by— remember voting for 15 minute ghettos where by a sleight of meme,— ghettos where by a sleight of meme, ee— ghettos where by a sleight of hand, one town— ghettos where by a sleight of hand, one town and city after emetmer— hand, one town and city after emetter te— hand, one town and city after another is being— hand, one town and city after another is being throttled, free movement curtailed or banned ewtrtette— movement curtailed or banned outright? what— movement curtailed or banned outright? what about the end of eeem— outright? what about the end of eeet eme— outright? what about the end of eeet met the— outright? what about the end of cash and the advent of digital teteme— cash and the advent of digital teteme met— cash and the advent of digital tokens that can— cash and the advent of digital tokens that can be programmed to tewe— tokens that can be programmed to tree e— tokens that can be programmed to tree e tw— tokens that can be programmed to have a use by date?— tokens that can be programmed to have a use by date? that enables eteerttmme— have a use by date? that enables eteertttme te— have a use by date? that enables algorithms to decide how, even if algorithms to decide how, even tt we— algorithms to decide how, even tt we mew— algorithms to decide how, even tt we mew eeemt— algorithms to decide how, even if we may spend our own hard eemet— if we may spend our own hard eemet mew— if we may spend our own hard earned money, anyone remember the meme— earned money, anyone remember the public information campaign to the public information campaign te bring— the public information campaign te trme we— the public information campaign te bring we ett—

the public information campaign to bring us all up— the public information campaign to bring us all up to speed on met— to bring us all up to speed on tmet eme— to bring us all up to speed on that one? then— to bring us all up to speed on that one? then there's the war in that one? then there's the war it wtreme. — that one? then there's the war in ukraine. we— that one? then there's the war in ukraine. we weren't told the eertmemt— in ukraine. we weren't told the pertinent historic— in ukraine. we weren't told the pertinent historic background , pertinent historic background, the trwtm — pertinent historic background, the truth. when— pertinent historic background, the truth. when russian forces ereeeet— the truth. when russian forces ereeeet tre— the truth. when russian forces crossed the border in february teet— crossed the border in february teet weer— crossed the border in february teet weer eme— crossed the border in february last year and were still mostly temtet— last year and were still mostly temtet me— last year and were still mostly denied the -today,- last year and were still mostly denied the today, billions denied the truth today, billions of denied the truth today, billions et ew— denied the truth today, billions et eewmte— denied the truth today, billions of our pounds have been spent mere— of our pounds have been spent tmere eme— of our pounds have been spent there and billions— of our pounds have been spent there and billions more will be eeemt. — there and billions more will be eeemt. imetetw— there and billions more will be spent. nobody better attack spent. yet nobody better attack emem— spent. yet nobody better attack erttem emw— spent. yet nobody better attack britain any time— spent. yet nobody better attack britain any time soon because rm— britain any time soon because tm prettw— britain any time soon because tm erettw ee— britain any time soon because i'm pretty sure about all i'm pretty sure just about all ew-tee— i'm pretty sure just about all our- has been- i'm pretty sure just about all our has been spent in our ammo has been spent in eweme— our ammo has been spent in wtreme em— our ammo has been spent in ukraine on the— our ammo has been spent in ukraine on the us backed a coup in ukraine on the us backed a coup m eweme— ukraine on the us backed a coup in ukraine all— ukraine on the us backed a coup in ukraine all the— ukraine on the us backed a coup in ukraine all the way back in 2014,— in ukraine all the way back in 2014, fermenting— in ukraine all the way back in 2014, fermenting and driving the ewetme— 2014, fermenting and driving the ewetme et— 2014, fermenting and driving the ewetme et e— 2014, fermenting and driving the ousting of a democratic elected reetme— ousting of a democratic elected reetme eme— ousting of a democratic elected regime and triggering an ugly etwt— regime and triggering an ugly etwt we— regime and triggering an ugly civil war that— regime and triggering an ugly civil war that claimed tens of tmeweemte— civil war that claimed tens of thousands of— civil war that claimed tens of thousands of lives. now hundreds of thousands of lives. now hundreds et tteweemte— thousands of lives. now hundreds of thousands more— thousands of lives. now hundreds of thousands more ukrainians are teet. — of thousands more ukrainians are teet. where— of thousands more ukrainians are teet. wmere te— of thousands more ukrainians are dead. where is the— of thousands more ukrainians are dead. where is the truth with the use— dead. where is the truth with the use we — dead. where is the truth with the us.7 are at— dead. where is the truth with the us.7 are at it— dead. where is the truth with the us? are at it again in rettetem— the us? are at it again in pakistan right— the us? are at it again in pakistan right now. the government— pakistan right now. the government of pakistan, led by men— government of pakistan, led by tmrem trem— government of pakistan, led by imran khan, was— government of pakistan, led by imran khan, was ousted by a coup teetet— imran khan, was ousted by a coup teetet tw— imran khan, was ousted by a coup teetet tw tre— imran khan, was ousted by a coup backed by the united states and by backed by the united states and tw ew— backed by the united states and by our government here in erttetm— by our government here in britain. imran— by our government here in britain. imran khan is under wee-et— britain. imran khan is under wee-et weem— britain. imran khan is under arrest. when asked about imran them-e— arrest. when asked about imran tmem-e eeet— arrest. when asked about imran khan's arrest. our— arrest. when asked about imran khan's arrest. our prime wmteter— khan's arrest. our prime minister said— khan's arrest. our prime minister said last week it was an minister said last week it was em mtemet— minister said last week it was an internal matter for pakistan. he an internal matter for pakistan. we eett— an internal matter for pakistan. we eett me—

an internal matter for pakistan. he said he supported, quote, eeeeetwt— he said he supported, quote, peaceful democratic processes eme— peaceful democratic processes emt etteremee— peaceful democratic processes and adherence to— peaceful democratic processes and adherence to the rule of lawr_ and adherence to the rule of tew, eme— and adherence to the rule of law, end quote— and adherence to the rule of law, end quote ._ and adherence to the rule of law, end quote . do we really? a law, end quote. do we really? a eewe— law, end quote. do we really? a eewe m— law, end quote. do we really? a coup in ukraine.— law, end quote. do we really? a coup in ukraine. a— law, end quote. do we really? a coup in ukraine. a coup in rettetem— coup in ukraine. a coup in pakistan? is— coup in ukraine. a coup in pakistan? is that what support for democratic— pakistan? is that what support for democratic processes looks twe— for democratic processes looks like nowadays?— for democratic processes looks like nowadays? were we asked etewt— like nowadays? were we asked etewt going— like nowadays? were we asked etewt going te— like nowadays? were we asked about going to war with russia in about going to war with russia m wt— about going to war with russia m ett twt— about going to war with russia in all but name?— about going to war with russia in all but name? were we asked wret— in all but name? were we asked wtet we— in all but name? were we asked what we thought— in all but name? were we asked what we thought about regime emerge— what we thought about regime etemee m— what we thought about regime change in ukraine or indeed in tweete— change in ukraine or indeed in russia itself— change in ukraine or indeed in russia itself ?_ change in ukraine or indeed in russia itself ? were we asked russia itself? were we asked whether— russia itself? were we asked whether er— russia itself? were we asked whether or not— russia itself? were we asked whether or not we supported reetme— whether or not we supported regime emwee— whether or not we supported regime change in pakistan ? are regime change in pakistan? are we te— regime change in pakistan? are we te emwe— regime change in pakistan? are we te emwe ew— regime change in pakistan? are we to shrug our shoulders and eeeeet— we to shrug our shoulders and eeeeet met— we to shrug our shoulders and accept that decisions like those are accept that decisions like those etmetw— accept that decisions like those are simply above— accept that decisions like those are simply above our pay grade ? are simply above our pay grade? wwme— are simply above our pay grade? wwme eeme— are simply above our pay grade? having done what— are simply above our pay grade? having done what they want so memw— having done what they want so memw ttmee— having done what they want so many times now— having done what they want so many times now without being mett— many times now without being mett te— many times now without being mett te-ow- many times now without being held to our political held to account? our political eteee— held to account? our political ewee-— held to account? our political eteeee- tee — held to account? our political class - a dog that - held to account? our political class a dog that has class is like a dog that has teemet— class is like a dog that has learned _without| class is like a dog that has- learned _without any learned it can bite without any tweet— learned it can bite without any threat consequence . is threat of consequence. is our geemmemt— threat of consequence. is our government, parliament is government, our parliament is a tee— government, our parliament is a bet tee— government, our parliament is a bet tee .— government, our parliament is a bet dog . wew— government, our parliament is a bad dog . now that— government, our parliament is a bad dog . now that i've realised bad dog. now that i've realised whet-e— bad dog. now that i've realised were going— bad dog. now that i've realised were going em— bad dog. now that i've realised what's going on now, i think eme— what's going on now, i think more and more— what's going on now, i think more and more about how long tetwtew— more and more about how long behaviour like— more and more about how long behaviour like this has been the wtttewt— behaviour like this has been the norm without my— behaviour like this has been the norm without my noticing , norm without my noticing, wtttewt— norm without my noticing, wttmewt mw— norm without my noticing, without my bothering to notice , without my bothering to notice, eweme— without my bothering to notice, ememelme— without my bothering to notice, etemelme m— without my bothering to notice, shame me in 1922, english shame on me in 1922, english emteeeemer— shame on me in 1922, english philosopher g.k. _ shame on me in 1922, english philosopher gk. chesterton philosopher g.k. chesterton wemet— philosopher gk. chesterton warned about— philosopher gk. chesterton warned about the danger of

ewermtemtw— warned about the danger of overmighty governments and bureaucracies.— overmighty governments and bureaucracies. he warned against eeettettete— bureaucracies. he warned against eeettettete eme— bureaucracies. he warned against capitalists and socialists , capitalists and socialists, eewme— capitalists and socialists, saying exponents of either tteeteew— saying exponents of either ideology er— saying exponents of either ideology or intent only on controlling— ideology or intent only on controlling people . for over controlling people. for over a mwmwet— controlling people. for over a hundred years— controlling people. for over a hundred years ago, he was able to hundred years ago, he was able te wette— hundred years ago, he was able te wrtte, ewete— hundred years ago, he was able to write, quote, government has eeme— to write, quote, government has become ungovernable. that is, it meet— become ungovernable. that is, it wmet tewe— become ungovernable. that is, it cannot leave off— become ungovernable. that is, it cannot leave off governing law tee— cannot leave off governing law tee treme— cannot leave off governing law has become lawless . that is, it has become lawless. that is, it meet— has become lawless. that is, it cannot see where— has become lawless. that is, it cannot see where laws should etee. — cannot see where laws should etee. me— cannot see where laws should stop. the chief— cannot see where laws should stop. the chief feature of our ttme— stop. the chief feature of our ttme te— stop. the chief feature of our ttme te tre— stop. the chief feature of our time is the meekness of the mob eme— time is the meekness of the mob wet the— time is the meekness of the mob and the madness— time is the meekness of the mob and the madness of— time is the meekness of the mob and the madness of the government,— and the madness of the government, end quote . i think government, end quote. i think the weettwt— government, end quote. i think the dreadful truth is that the ttereewt— the dreadful truth is that the disregard for— the dreadful truth is that the disregard for we _ the dreadful truth is that the disregard for we the people has teem— disregard for we the people has teem tre— disregard for we the people has been the reality— disregard for we the people has been the reality for longer than ewee— been the reality for longer than we etwe— been the reality for longer than anyone alive might remember. and mere-e— anyone alive might remember. and ttere-e teem— anyone alive might remember. and ttere-e teem e— anyone alive might remember. and there's been a long— anyone alive might remember. and there's been a long protest weeeee— there's been a long protest process-started- there's been a long protest process started with process that started with determined _ process that started with determined action to keep us trem— determined action to keep us trem eeeme— determined action to keep us from seeing what was really going— from seeing what was really going — from seeing what was really going ewt— from seeing what was really going on. but that has evolved to going on. but that has evolved te me— going on. but that has evolved te me eemt— going on. but that has evolved to the point where we are now. meee— to the point where we are now. tmeee treet— to the point where we are now. those that purport— to the point where we are now. those that purport to lead us mew— those that purport to lead us knew we— those that purport to lead us know we can see— those that purport to lead us know we can see the lies, and vet— know we can see the lies, and wet-metere— know we can see the lies, and yet-matters. not- know we can see the lies, and yet matters. not jot . the yet that matters. not a jot. the meetrem— yet that matters. not a jot. the mainstream media— yet that matters. not a jot. the mainstream media was always ewtteem— mainstream media was always ewtteem m— mainstream media was always partisan in supporting this eetttteet— partisan in supporting this eetttteet eertw— partisan in supporting this political party or that by now mere-e— political party or that by now ttere-e me— political party or that by now there's no meaningful difference between— there's no meaningful difference between the— there's no meaningful difference between the parties and the meetrem— between the parties and the mainstream media, therefore has entw— mainstream media, therefore has emtw ee— mainstream media, therefore has

emtw ewe-te— mainstream media, therefore has emtw ewe-te ewem- mainstream media, therefore has emtw ewe-te wet i mainstream media, therefore has only one to push , and only one message to push, and the meeeeee— only one message to push, and the message of— only one message to push, and the message of a— only one message to push, and the message of a state that is eeeemttettw— the message of a state that is essentiallylone_ the message of a state that is essentially one party state essentially a one party state meee— essentially a one party state emeee .— essentially a one party state chess . thurston— essentially a one party state chess . thurston also wrote in chess. thurston also wrote in me— chess. thurston also wrote in me ttme— chess. thurston also wrote in his time that,— chess. thurston also wrote in his time that, quote, men are met— his time that, quote, men are rwtetlttwe— his time that, quote, men are ruled-liars who— his time that, quote, men are ruled liars who refuse them ruled by liars who refuse them eme— ruled by liars who refuse them emt tw— ruled by liars who refuse them news and by fools— ruled by liars who refuse them news and by fools who cannot ewem— news and by fools who cannot gewem eme— news and by fools who cannot govern end quote.— news and by fools who cannot govern end quote. if as much was tewe— govern end quote. if as much was trwe m— govern end quote. if as much was trwe m the— govern end quote. if as much was true in the 1920s,— govern end quote. if as much was true in the 1920s, it— govern end quote. if as much was true in the 1920s, it certainly teete— true in the 1920s, it certainly teete tewe— true in the 1920s, it certainly feels true in— true in the 1920s, it certainly feels true in the— true in the 1920s, it certainly feels true in the 2020s, the tree— feels true in the 2020s, the ttee ee— feels true in the 2020s, the lies are getting— feels true in the 2020s, the lies are getting bigger now. mew-re— lies are getting bigger now. they're concealing nothing less trem— they're concealing nothing less them the— they're concealing nothing less than the destruction of our way of than the destruction of our way et ttte. — than the destruction of our way et me. me— than the destruction of our way of life. the role— than the destruction of our way of life. the role of— than the destruction of our way of life. the role of women is eeme— of life. the role of women is being systematically erased . being systematically erased. were— being systematically erased. were eeme— being systematically erased. we're being lied to about the ettmete— we're being lied to about the ettmete .— we're being lied to about the ettmete . ter— we're being lied to about the climate . for the— we're being lied to about the climate . for the longest time climate. for the longest time we've been told— climate. for the longest time we've been told there are too memw— we've been told there are too memw eeeete — we've been told there are too many people alive on earth, and now we're being— many people alive on earth, and now we're being marched to the eemt— now we're being marched to the em et— now we're being marched to the brink of world— now we're being marched to the brink of world war— now we're being marched to the brink of world war iii. all teeet— brink of world war iii. all teeet em— brink of world war iii. all based on lies.— brink of world war iii. all based on lies. here's the thing eeettme— based on lies. here's the thing eeettme me— based on lies. here's the thing spotting the lies— based on lies. here's the thing spotting the lies after they've teem— spotting the lies after they've teem tett— spotting the lies after they've teem tett te— spotting the lies after they've been told is not— spotting the lies after they've been told is not enough. surely we've learned— been told is not enough. surely we've learned enough to predict the tee— we've learned enough to predict the lies they'll— we've learned enough to predict the lies they'll tell us next. eet-e— the lies they'll tell us next. tet-e etwt— the lies they'll tell us next. let's start asking questions etewt— let's start asking questions about those— let's start asking questions about those lies. as yet untold tetere— about those lies. as yet untold tetere tt— about those lies. as yet untold before it really— about those lies. as yet untold before it really is— about those lies. as yet untold before it really is too late . it before it really is too late. it

. att— before it really is too late. it . att et— before it really is too late. it . all of that's— before it really is too late. it . all of that's my- before it really is too late. it . all of that's my opinion of amt— . all of that's my opinion of course. and you— . all of that's my opinion of course. and you can disagree. teet— course. and you can disagree. weet wew— course. and you can disagree. keep your tweets— course. and you can disagree. keep your tweets and emails eemme— keep your tweets and emails coming through— keep your tweets and emails coming through the show. you can emet— coming through the show. you can email gbviews@gbnews.uk . you can email gbviews@gbnews.uk. you can tweet— email gbviews@gbnews.uk. you can tweet me— email gbviews@gbnews.uk. you can tweet me ee— email gbviews@gbnews.uk. you can tweet me ee wett— email gbviews@gbnews.uk. you can tweet me as well at— email gbviews@gbnews.uk. you can tweet me as well at gb news and i'll tweet me as well at gb news and ttt trw— tweet me as well at gb news and ttt trw te— tweet me as well at gb news and ttt trw te eet— tweet me as well at gb news and ttt trw te eet te— tweet me as well at gb news and i'll try to get to your— tweet me as well at gb news and i'll try to get to your comments teter— i'll try to get to your comments teter. wett— i'll try to get to your comments later. well, joining— i'll try to get to your comments later. well, joining me throughout— later. well, joining me throughout tonight's program is ttmemetet— throughout tonight's program is financial and— throughout tonight's program is financial and business iewmettet— financial and business journalist jasmine birtles. wette— journalist jasmine birtles. hello, jasmine. what do you make of hello, jasmine. what do you make et mw— hello, jasmine. what do you make et mw tweet— hello, jasmine. what do you make of my latest rant— hello, jasmine. what do you make of my latest rant ? _ hello, jasmine. what do you make of my latest rant ? �*ftt�*tzge 3g ”cc: of my latest rant? well, i agree with everything you've said, to be honest. but what i'm thinking is you're talking is, you know, those of us who like to describe ourselves as awake spend and pretty much all our time when we're chatting about this complain thing, which this is bad , that's terrible. that's bad, that's terrible. that's appalling. good grief. have you seen the latest? what we're not doing and we desperately need to start doing is coming up with solutions. and so this this i honestly i think the reason we're not and i add myself in there is because it's really hard and what can we realistically do beyond the way

society is structured, the way protest is, is managed by the minute, the way people are cancelled and silenced and ways are found to silence people no matter what they say . what can matter what they say. what can we do ? well, what i've noticed we do? well, what i've noticed is that if we just refuse, if we become refuseniks, then it's quite surprising that you actually don't need that many people to refuse to refuse to comply before those in power who are. let's be honest, basically the same as us. they've just been put somewhere else and probably there. i think they're more hypnotised than the rest of us. in all honesty. they may suddenly find that they can't do what they thought they could. and we we've seen this certainly in the last three years. you know, there have been a number of people who've said, no, i'm not going to wear the mask. no. and there are more and more people who are saying, well, if you don't take my cash, i won't i shop here. and i've

i won't shop here. and i've heard of shops, you know, turning perhaps is turning around, perhaps that is true. mean, too, when people true. i mean, i too, when people eet— true. i mean, i too, when people eet-tweettw— true. i mean, i too, when people eet-tweettw m— true. i mean, i too, when people ask-directly in the— i mean, i too, when people ask directly in the street ask me directly in the street eme— ask me directly in the street emet-wmet- ask me directly in the street and-what can- ask me directly in the street and-what can be. ask me directly in the street- and-what can be done, and whatever, what can be done, i a and whatever, what can be done, me twmme— and whatever, what can be done, me twmme ewew— and whatever, what can be done, i a turning away, you know, i see a turning away, you know, twmme— i see a turning away, you know, twmme-teete— i see a turning away, you know, turning-backs. yes.- i see a turning away, you know, turning backs. yes. those of turning our backs. yes. those of us turning our backs. yes. those of we we— turning our backs. yes. those of we wte eem-t— turning our backs. yes. those of us who don't agree,— turning our backs. yes. those of us who don't agree, you know, we twe— us who don't agree, you know, we wwe-mete— us who don't agree, you know, we have made powerless have been made powerless by a treeeeeew-w- have been made powerless by a treeeeeew-w eem- have been made powerless by a process. you can always process. however, you can always wttttett— process. however, you can always withhold-consent.- process. however, you can always withhold-consent. - process. however, you can always withhold consent. twang withhold your consent. exactly. you withhold your consent. exactly. wee—eememt you can withhold your consent, but then what we need to do is create , i think, new structures create, i think, new structures . so we complain under standardly about government. and i totally agree. i mean, goodness knows what i'm going to vote for in the next election. you know , like like i think you know, like like i think probably about 70% of the country honestly , i am country honestly, i am politically homeless. i can't see a single party that i feel i can really get behind. i'm i'm expecting. would you contemplate twmme— expecting. would you contemplate twmmg ewew— expecting. would you contemplate turning away from _ expecting. would you contemplate turning away from the— f q would you contemplate turning away from the vote? to turning away from the vote? no. are— turning away from the vote? no. we ttet-e— turning away from the vote? no. we ttet-e tte— turning away from the vote? no. and that's the thing,— turning away from the vote? no. and that's the thing, because i believe in structure and i think that we need to change the structures. i women have died so that i could have the vote. so i always vote . and i think that , always vote. and i think that, you know, i might have to spoil

my vote. i will probably vote for an independent, probably what i'm going to do. but what i would like to see is more independence . and i would like independence. and i would like to see more of us taking a really more interest in government in a way that actually we have begun to do in the last three years. and change that structure we need. i think we need more democracy. i laugh as i'm saying this because, you know, what we've seen is democracy has not frankly been democracy has not frankly been democracy . and we need more . we democracy. and we need more. we need stronger and more moral structures where you have, for example , you have more rotation example, you have more rotation in office so that there's less likelihood of one or more ideology is taking over. we need we need honestly, we need more morality. and i'm a churchgoer, so i would say this, but it i think that we need what the real nugget of most religions does

show, which is that reality actually all reality is based on principle. it's based on truth , principle. it's based on truth, it's based on goodness, it's based on love. and the more that we can align our thinking and behaviour to that clearer politician of principle, i can think of 1 or 2. i can, i can ttmt— think of 1 or 2. i can, i can ttmt et— think of 1 or 2. i can, i can ttmt et t— think of 1 or 2. i can, i can think of 1 or— think of 1 or 2. i can, i can think of 1 or 2.— think of 1 or 2. i can, i can think of 1 or 2. in- i? i can, i can think of 1 or 2. in fact, i can tetmttetw— think of 1 or 2. in fact, i can definitely think— think of 1 or 2. in fact, i can definitely think of one. coming up, definitely think of one. coming “pr ttt— definitely think of one. coming “pr ttt te— definitely think of one. coming up, i'll be speaking to stephen j. stew,— up, i'll be speaking to stephen j. stew, tte— up, i'll be speaking to stephen j. shaw, the writer— up, i'll be speaking to stephen j. shaw, the writer and director of j. shaw, the writer and director et tte — j. shaw, the writer and director of the documentary birth gap, cttttteee— of the documentary birth gap, childless world,— of the documentary birth gap, childless world, to discover why he tettewee— childless world, to discover why he believes we're _ childless world, to discover why he believes we're sleepwalking mte— he believes we're sleepwalking tmte e— he believes we're sleepwalking into a population— he believes we're sleepwalking into a population crisis. don't go ewew—

gb news radio . gb news radio. iwelcome- gb news radio. welcome back. you've been in touch already. touch with feedback already. raif some really good raif says some really good points, neil, but you lost me on the issue of climate and 15 minute cities. i want better, minute cities. i want a better, cleaner my kids . minute cities. i want a better, cleaner my kids. i cleaner future for my kids. i don't it's a climate don't think it's a climate emergency, also don't emergency, but i also don't think dirtier air and filthier

seasis think dirtier air and filthier seas is lie. as you put it. seas is a lie. as you put it. sue says , i would have to agree sue says, i would have to agree with on the point that there with you on the point that there are constant u—turns in are so many constant u—turns in our government's promises and policy. it's almost as if we've accepted it. it's no longer a surprise. john says. well, i do agree that we're being led up the garden path on many things these days. neil believe, are these days. neil i believe, are politicians. did genuinely believe it was emergency at politicians. did genuinely belistartt was emergency at politicians. did genuinely belistart of as emergency at politicians. did genuinely belistart of the emergency at politicians. did genuinely belistart of the pandemicicy at politicians. did genuinely belistart of the pandemic andt the start of the pandemic and genuinely wanted to protect the british however they british public. however they could . there we go. okay . for could. there we go. okay. for years now we've been bombarded with the idea there are too many people alive on the planet that the survival of our species depends on significantly cutting our in some way at some our numbers in some way at some point, probably beginning right now. there is, however , another now. there is, however, another school of thought among others, elon musk of tesla , spacex and elon musk of tesla, spacex and twitter fame has said the greatest challenge facing our species is not overpopulation, but total worldwide population collapse. as part of the necessary conversation. filmmaker stephen shaw has made

birth gap childless world in which he invites us to contemplate that most of the world's countries face a future in which care homes are full beyond capacity with the elderly, while the playgrounds and primary schools are all but empty of children. take a look at a clip from the film coming from the world of data science . from the world of data science. i felt i understood populations are i felt i understood populations going— i felt i understood populations going wt— i felt i understood populations going wt eme— i felt i understood populations are going up and that that's a trettem— are going up and that that's a trettem .— are going up and that that's a problem .when_ are going up and that that's a problem .when i— are going up and that that's a problem .when i saw what are going up and that that's a problem . when i saw what was problem. when i saw what was eetwettw— problem. when i saw what was actually happening, i couldn't eteet. — actually happening, i couldn't eteet. .— actually happening, i couldn't sleep. i think— actually happening, i couldn't sleep. i think the- actually happening, i couldn't sleep. w sleep. i think the biggest problem in the world will face in 20 years is population collapse. collapse and this four year project took me to 24 countries and over 230 people were kind enough to give me an hour of their lives. how could it be hour of their lives. how could tt te ttet— hour of their lives. how could it be that suddenly— ” ” l how could it be that suddenly countries are it be that suddenly countries mwme— it be that suddenly countries twme ee— it be that suddenly countries are having so few children ? i are having so few children? i meetee— are having so few children? i meetet te— are having so few children? i meetet te 90— are having so few children? i needed to go and find out . and needed to go and find out. and stettem— needed to go and find out. and stettem terme— needed to go and find out. and stephen joins me— needed to go and find out. and stephen joins me now. " stephen joins me now. stephen, i wetetet— stephen joins me now. stephen, i

watched the first hour of the film . that's what i had time for film. that's what i had time for when i was doing some background research. and i was i found it utterly harrowing , jaw utterly harrowing, jaw droppingly upsetting . in droppingly upsetting. in a nutshell, what do you think is happening to world population? well if you look at the world today, 70% of people live in a country where there's they're having less than two children per per mother below what we call replacement level. it means that whilst our— call replacement level. it means that whilst our attention- rial f it means that whilst our attention might go te— that whilst our attention might go te tteeee— that whilst our attention might go to places like— that whilst our attention might go to places like africa that twme— go to places like africa that are having more— go to places like africa that are having more children, the reetttw— are having more children, the reetttw ter— are having more children, the reality for most— are having more children, the reality for most of us is we've got— reality for most of us is we've eet e— reality for most of us is we've eet e werw— reality for most of us is we've got a very different future etewt— got a very different future eteet et— got a very different future ahead of us— got a very different future ahead of us and why we're not tettme— ahead of us and why we're not tettmg etewt— ahead of us and why we're not talking about it,— ahead of us and why we're not talking about it, it's the .— talking about it, it's the reason i made- talking about it, it's the reason i made the documentary. it's reason i made the documentary. tt-e ewtte— reason i made the documentary. it's quite shocking— reason i made the documentary. it's quite shocking when you teet— it's quite shocking when you look-numbers— it's quite shocking when you look numbers like japan, look at numbers like japan, termemw,— look at numbers like japan, germany,-that- look at numbers like japan, germany, that really , as germany, italy, that really, as you— germany, italy, that really, as wew save— germany, italy, that really, as wew eew, teet— germany, italy, that really, as wew eew, teet te— germany, italy, that really, as you say, lead to harrowing etertee— you say, lead to harrowing stories about— you say, lead to harrowing stories about people's lives . stories about people's lives. i wetetet— stories about people's lives. i wetetet mt— stories about people's lives. i watched and so— stories about people's lives. i watched and so much- stories about people's lives. i watched and so much of- stories about people's lives. i watched and so much of what i found so upsetting was one person after another. mostly women shrugging their shoulders almost at how had this had this childlessness, had happened to them . and people speaking on

them. and people speaking on behalf of society in the full knowledge that fertility or population numbers were collapsing around them and it was just a don't know how. well, i find that a lot with wewmeer— well, i find that a lot with younger people in particular. i eett— younger people in particular. i eett ttte— younger people in particular. i call this unplanned childlessness . 80% of people call this unplanned— childlessness . 80% of people in childlessness. 80% of people in meet— childlessness. 80% of people in meet et— childlessness. 80% of people in most of these— childlessness. 80% of people in most of these countries have emeet— most of these countries have ended wt— most of these countries have ended up childless , despite ended up childless, despite ertemettw— ended up childless, despite originally planning to have a temttw— originally planning to have a temttw. amt— originally planning to have a family. and most of us don't mew— family. and most of us don't mew ttet. — family. and most of us don't know that. and— family. and most of us don't know that. and many of these women, men, too,— know that. and many of these women, men, too, are suffering deepe— women, men, too, are suffering teee, tereemet— women, men, too, are suffering deep, personal grief as to how eme— deep, personal grief as to how emt .— deep, personal grief as to how emt . mew— deep, personal grief as to how and i know people listening to me— and i know people listening to ttte temtett— and i know people listening to this tonight will— and i know people listening to this tonight will relate to ttte.— this tonight will relate to ttte. amt— this tonight will relate to this. and it— this tonight will relate to this. and it is— this tonight will relate to this. and it is a harrowing eterw— this. and it is a harrowing eterw ter— this. and it is a harrowing story for those— this. and it is a harrowing story for those people, of course,-wantl story for those people, of- course,-want children, course, who don't want children, met-e— course, who don't want children, ttet-e-ewttertme- course, who don't want children, that's who supporting course, who don't want children, that's who slwant. ng course, who don't want children, that's who slwant. but what people who don't want. but what eet— people who don't want. but what eet te— people who don't want. but what we've got is people, i think, wte— we've got is people, i think, wte wte— we've got is people, i think, who who drift— we've got is people, i think, who who drift into this and whether— who who drift into this and whether that's— who who drift into this and whether that's societal or tereemet— whether that's societal or tereemet .— whether that's societal or personal , that's part of the personal, that's part of the conversation. _ personal, that's part of the conversation. i— personal, that's part of the conversation. i want people to be conversation. i want people to te twme. — conversation. i want people to te twmg. wew— conversation. i want people to be having. you know, we're in me— be having. you know, we're in the ewetem— be having. you know, we're in tte ewetem . — be having. you know, we're in the system . we're- be having. you know, we're in the system . �*vw�*tz; ”iii: " f the system. we're in the process is the childlessness coming in, you know, i mean , i've got i've you know, i mean, i've got i've got three kids. my brother in law's got three kids. you know, there's a lot of people around

me. and i see them having families. where this families. so where is this bubble of nothingness coming ? bubble of nothingness coming? where is it? well, i think eeetetw— where is it? well, i think society today— where is it? well, i think society today is- �*ftt�*miz; 7 well, i think society today is engineered �*ftt�*“ti;”ti; 7 well, i think society today is engineered for teette— society today is engineered for teette te— society today is engineered for teette te twe— society today is engineered for people to have children in their 30s,— people to have children in their eee met— people to have children in their eee met m— people to have children in their 30s, not in their— people to have children in their 30s, not in their 20s. but yet et— 30s, not in their 20s. but yet et tte— 30s, not in their 20s. but yet one of the data— 30s, not in their 20s. but yet one of the data points i've tewmt— one of the data points i've tewmt te— one of the data points i've found is that— one of the data points i've found is that for those people , found is that for those people, tteee— found is that for those people, tteee wemem— found is that for those people, those women who— found is that for those people, those women who who do not have met— those women who who do not have ttetr met— those women who who do not have their first child _ those women who who do not have their first child by— those women who who do not have their first child by age 30, tteee-e— their first child by age 30, ttere-e entw— their first child by age 30, there's only a— their first child by age 30, there's only a 5,050% likelihood ttew— there's only a 5,050% likelihood ttew wttt— there's only a 5,050% likelihood ttew wttt ever— there's only a 5,050% likelihood they will ever become a mother. amt— they will ever become a mother. amt meet— they will ever become a mother. amt meet teette— they will ever become a mother. and most people find that quite eteetme. — and most people find that quite eteetme. -eet- and most people find that quite shocking. ask people shocking. when i ask people ttrewet— shocking. when i ask people ttrewet e— shocking. when i ask people through a survey, what age do you— through a survey, what age do wew ttmt— through a survey, what age do wew ttmt tt— through a survey, what age do you think it becomes? 5050? the meet— you think it becomes? 5050? the most common answer was 40. so tteee-e— most common answer was 40. so ttere-e—reettwl there's a misconception really in there's a misconception really it terme— there's a misconception really it terme et— there's a misconception really in terms of both— there's a misconception really in terms of both the shortening of in terms of both the shortening et tte— in terms of both the shortening of the fertility— in terms of both the shortening of the fertility window. but tteee-e— of the fertility window. but there's something else. the ttggeet— there's something else. the biggest single— there's something else. the biggest single is not biggest single reason is not mwme— biggest single reason is not havinglpartner_ biggest single reason is not having partner at that right having a partner at that right ttme. —teette- having a partner at that right time. people think, time. you know, people think, etew— time. you know, people think, wew-ee— time. you know, people think, etew-ee rm— time. you know, people think, okay,-33, i'm 35,- time. you know, people think, okay, 33, i'm 35, i'm ready. okay, i'm 33, i'm 35, i'm ready. twt— okay, i'm 33, i'm 35, i'm ready. twt ttew— okay, i'm 33, i'm 35, i'm ready. twt ttew eem-t— okay, i'm 33, i'm 35, i'm ready. but they don't have a boyfriend emmemt— but they don't have a boyfriend emmemt er— but they don't have a boyfriend girlfriend or they've gone ttrewet— girlfriend or they've gone ttrewet e— girlfriend or they've gone through a divorce and people eem-t— through a divorce and people tem-t teeter— through a divorce and people don't factor this— through a divorce and people don't factor this in. so there are so many people and the rest of are so many people and the rest et tte— are so many people and the rest of the documentary goes into ttte— of the documentary goes into tttelewtte— of the documentary goes into tttelewtte e— of the documentary goes into this-quite a lot— of the documentary goes into this quite a lot of detail, this in quite a lot of detail, emettemet— this in quite a lot of detail,- emotional—who emotional detail of people who are emotional detail of people who eewme— emotional detail of people who eewme .— emotional detail of people who are saying , where's my prince are saying, where's my prince ctermme— are saying, where's my prince ctwmme e — are saying, where's my prince charming ? and— are saying, where's my prince charming ? '“t: are saying, where's my prince charming ? “t:

charming? and oh, jasmine, how do you react to this? well, i was you've mentioned japan , was you've mentioned japan, germany, italy. and i did know etewt— germany, italy. and i did know etewt reten— cy and i did know about japan, particularly having twme— about japan, particularly having twme ttte— about japan, particularly having having this popular asian ewete— having this popular asian crisis, essentially. and also ttetw— crisis, essentially. and also ttetw .— crisis, essentially. and also ttetw . tteee— crisis, essentially. and also italy . these are- crisis, essentially. and also italy . these are very different italy. these are very different eewrtee— italy. these are very different eewmtee .— italy. these are very different countries , and— italy. these are very different countries , and particularly countries, and particularly ttetw— countries, and particularly ttetw te— countries, and particularly ttetw te e— countries, and particularly italy is a surprising one. it's a italy is a surprising one. it's e cettette— italy is a surprising one. it's a catholic country. you expect cettette— a catholic country. you expect catholic countries— a catholic country. you expect catholic countries to produce more children.— catholic countries to produce more children. did you get any reasons whether— more children. did you get any reasons whether the same reasons or reasons whether the same reasons er wew— reasons whether the same reasons er werw tttteremt— reasons whether the same reasons or very different reasons? well, ttte— or very different reasons? well, ttte wee— or very different reasons? well, ttte tte— or very different reasons? well, this was the most— or very different reasons? well, this was the most remarkable ttme. — this was the most remarkable ttme. amt— this was the most remarkable thing. and what— this was the most remarkable thing. '“r: t: thing. and what drew me to this initial analysis i did was to find out what the connection was between these different countries. and it turns out in 1974, year of the oil shock, 1974, the year of the oil shock, both japan and italy at the exact same time, had this sudden increase in childlessness. yet family structure didn't change at all. mothers who were having one, two, three, four, the percentage of those actually hasn't changed for decades. childlessness rocketed around times of financial uncertainty. and i think what happened or what does happen because it happened at the time of the

mortgage crisis, as well in the states and elsewhere, zero 7 or 8 people delay parenthood and probably for good reasons. there's uncertainty . but then we there's uncertainty. but then we enter this window where our fertility falls off much more quickly than we think. but there's always there- there's always there have always teem— there's always there have always teem tet— there's always there have always been bad times— there's always there have always been bad times for— there's always there have always been bad times for societies. amt— been bad times for societies. amt wet— been bad times for societies. amt wet ttte— been bad times for societies. and yet this would have would ettew— and yet this would have would ettewlte— and yet this would have would appear be unprecedented. and appear to be unprecedented. and it's appear to be unprecedented. and tte-tee.— appear to be unprecedented. and it's-yes..something. it's global. yes. so something teette— it's global. yes. so something teette twe— it's global. yes. so something people have always had crashed in people have always had crashed m twt— people have always had crashed in hard times.— people have always had crashed in hard times. 1929, stock memet— in hard times. 1929, stock market crash— in hard times. 1929, stock market crash and all the rest of it. market crash and all the rest of t. tee.— market crash and all the rest of t. tee. wtet-e— market crash and all the rest of it. yes. what's so— market crash and all the rest of it. yes. what's so different gtetettwe— it. yes. what's so different globally? what's driving a etetet— globally? what's driving a global collapse ? will c global collapse? well, it's a weet— global collapse? well, it's a great question. i think societal norms have changed in a way that they couldn't or didn't change in the past. and i think the idea that we can continue working, i mean, people study hard days, that's good hard these days, that's a good thing. that's thing. women's education, that's a . but then you need a good thing. but then you need to develop your career. and that wasn't case necessarily, you to develop your career. and that wasn'ta case necessarily, you to develop your career. and that wasn'ta generation:essarily, you to develop your career. and that wasn'ta generation orsarily, you to develop your career. and that wasn'ta generation or two 1, you to develop your career. and that wasn'ta generation or two ago.i know, a generation or two ago. so to invest time in so you need to invest time in doing then you're 32. doing that. and then you're 32. is there a way back? i there's a sense in is there a way back? i there's a m m— is there a way back? i there's a sense in in the— is there a way back? i there's a sense in in the program- f7 i there's a sense in in the program that we may— sense in in the program that we mew twe— sense in in the program that we may have crossed— sense in in the program that we may have crossed the point of

going— may have crossed the point of going tewemt— may have crossed the point of going beyond the— may have crossed the point of going beyond the point of no rwmet — going beyond the point of no rwmet wett— going beyond the point of no return. well in— going beyond the point of no return. well in a— going beyond the point of no return. well in a sense, we have wett— return. well in a sense, we have we-tt meter— return. well in a sense, we have we-tt 90— return. well in a sense, we have we'll never go back— return. well in a sense, we have we'll never go back and the uk to we'll never go back and the uk te tw— we'll never go back and the uk te tw tte— we'll never go back and the uk te tw tte wew— we'll never go back and the uk te tw tte wew .— we'll never go back and the uk to by the way , we— we'll never go back and the uk to by the way , we have a 20% to by the way, we have a 20% titt— to by the way, we have a 20% ttrtt eet— to by the way, we have a 20% ttrtt eet-tte— to by the way, we have a 20% birth gap-the uk- to by the way, we have a 20% birth gap the uk. �*" to by the way, we have a 20% birth gap the uk . �*" birth gap in the uk. if you take the birth gap in the uk. if you take tte-et— birth gap in the uk. if you take the of people aged 50 the number of people aged 50 compared of compared to the number of newborns in this country is on a downward that haven't downward trend that we haven't actually noticed yet, is there a hope? there is. the hope comes from shown the from what i've shown the documentary younger people documentary to younger people when i had this when i see and ijust had this at cambridge weekend, at cambridge this weekend, cambridge cancelled at cambridge this weekend, can documentary cancelled at cambridge this weekend, can documentary because :elled at cambridge this weekend, candocumentary because some my documentary because some people a dangerous people think this is a dangerous subject. well, it is a subject. yes. well, it is a temeerewe— f “tit; well, it is a dangerous subject. will dangerous subject. well, you ttew.— dangerous subject. well, you mew. tt— dangerous subject. well, you know, it was quite shocking to me. yes. but some me. challenge. yes. but some people felt other students shouldn't to this. but shouldn't listen to this. but those who came to me to talk about know, eyes about it, you know, their eyes are and saying, well, are open and saying, well, actually, know this. are open and saying, well, actu i .ly, know this. are open and saying, well, actui think know this. are open and saying, well, actui think younger now this. are open and saying, well, actui think younger people s. are open and saying, well, actui think younger people will and i think younger people will help societies change to make it eafien help societies change to make it easier, whatever means, to easier, whatever that means, to start younger, because start a family younger, because that's the only solution here. interesting stephen, a it's interesting stephen, it's a it's a interesting stephen, it's a it's eteeemetme— interesting stephen, it's a it's a fascinating topic.— “ti;”ti;~irc “g stephen, it's a it's a fascinating topic. i'm going to a fascinating topic. i'm going te te— a fascinating topic. i'm going to be continuing— a fascinating topic. i'm going to be continuing it with someone wte— to be continuing it with someone wte-e— to be continuing it with someone wte-e retter— to be continuing it with someone who a rather different who takes a rather different eemt— who takes a rather different eemt-wew— who takes a rather different point-view on— who takes a rather different point view on the state of point of view on the state of tte— point of view on the state of tte wertt-e— point of view on the state of the world's population. but trttttemt— the world's population. but brilliant film. _ the world's population. but brilliant film. i'll be watching

the brilliant film. i'll be watching tte teet— brilliant film. i'll be watching tte reet et— brilliant film. i'll be watching the rest of it— brilliant film. i'll be watching the rest of it with bated breath emt— the rest of it with bated breath emt mw— the rest of it with bated breath emt mw memt— the rest of it with bated breath and my hand on— the rest of it with bated breath and my hand on my heart. but memt— and my hand on my heart. but ttemt wew— and my hand on my heart. but ttemt wew ee— and my hand on my heart. but thank you so much for bringing it thank you so much for bringing tt te— thank you so much for bringing tt te — thank you so much for bringing it to us. thank— thank you so much for bringing it to us. thank you so far. memt— it to us. thank you so far. ttemt wew. — it to us. thank you so far. thank you. as— it to us. thank you so far. thank you. as i- it to us. thank you so far. thank you. as i say, more on the tetete— thank you. as i say, more on the tetete te— thank you. as i say, more on the debate to come.— thank you. as i say, more on the debate to come. however from the and debate to come. however from the wt trem — debate to come. however from the wt trem tte— debate to come. however from the and from the other— debate to come. however from the and from the other side of the eem— and from the other side of the coin, obviously,— and from the other side of the coin, obviously, polar explorer and from the other side of the coin patron jsly, polar explorer and from the other side of the coin patron of y, polar explorer and from the other side of the coinpatron of population lorer and patron of population mettere— and patron of population matters, adrian hayes says we meet— matters, adrian hayes says we meet met— matters, adrian hayes says we need not fear— matters, adrian hayes says we need not fear and— matters, adrian hayes says we need not fear and we'll hear his twe— need not fear and we'll hear his tete m— need not fear and we'll hear his tete m e— need not fear and we'll hear his tete m e tew— need not fear and we'll hear his take in a few minutes

erg .uk. thank you. your place, your vote. gb news britain's news . channel welcome back. once news. channel welcome back. once te— news. channel welcome back. once te wett— news. channel welcome back. once more to neil oliver— news. channel welcome back. once more to neil oliver live.— welcome back. once more to neil oliver live. now iwet— more to neil oliver live. now we've just heard— more to neil oliver live. now we've just heard about the tweet— we've just heard about the ttreet et— we've just heard about the threat of population collapse. t-m — threat of population collapse. t-m ietmet— threat of population collapse. i'm joined now— threat of population collapse. i'm joined now by adrian hayes, tetrem— i'm joined now by adrian hayes, tetrem et— i'm joined now by adrian hayes, patron of population matters ttet— patron of population matters that continues— patron of population matters that continues to fear the trettem — that continues to fear the trettem ter— that continues to fear the problem for the future is not tee— problem for the future is not tee tew— problem for the future is not too few people,— problem for the future is not too few people, but far too many . retwtettem— too few people, but far too many . population matters is eemtetemmg- . population matters is campaigning to achieve what it teeerttee— campaigning to achieve what it teeerttee ee— campaigning to achieve what it describes as a— campaigning to achieve what it describes as a sustainable human tetwtettem— describes as a sustainable human tetwtettem .— describes as a sustainable human tetwtettem , em— describes as a sustainable human population , an encouraging population, an encouraging emetter— population, an encouraging smaller families and urging us to smaller families and urging us te twe— smaller families and urging us to live within— smaller families and urging us to live within what they see as ttemet-e— to live within what they see as our planet's limits. adrian, memt— our planet's limits. adrian, ttemt wew— our planet's limits. adrian, thank you for— our planet's limits. adrian, thank you for joining

our planet's limits. adrian, thank you forjoining me . c: thank you for joining me. good weemt. — thank you for joining me. good weemt. eeet— thank you for joining me. good evening. good evening to all your viewers as well . thank you. your viewers as well. thank you. we've your viewers as well. thank you. we-we iwet— your viewers as well. thank you. we've just heard— your viewers as well. thank you. we've just heard from _ " . thank you. we've just heard from stephen stew— we've just heard from stephen stew emt— we've just heard from stephen shaw and we've— we've just heard from stephen shaw and we've shown clips of his shaw and we've shown clips of tte tttm. — shaw and we've shown clips of his film. -spoken- shaw and we've shown clips of his film. spoken to people his film. he's spoken to people all his film. he's spoken to people ett ever— his film. he's spoken to people ett tte— his film. he's spoken to people all over the world— his film. he's spoken to people all over the world warning of tmmmemt— all over the world warning of imminent population collapse. ttew— imminent population collapse. ttew-emt— imminent population collapse. elon-and others- imminent population collapse. elon and others say the elon musk and others say the wtw— elon musk and others say the wtw te— elon musk and others say the same. why do you think we need even fewer babies— same. why do you think we need even fewer babies in the world? otew. — even fewer babies in the world? otew. wett— even fewer babies in the world? otew. wett. t— even fewer babies in the world? okay. well, i have— even fewer babies in the world? okay. well, i have great- even fewer babies in the world? okay. well, i have great respect for elon musk's commitment to free speech, for starters. and i've watched steven's documentary, i think, on the side of trying to understand where this issue of falling population rates has come. it's very good . however, i think not very good. however, i think not for the first time there is a little bit of project fear going on. there is no danger at all of population collapse aukus within this century and i will tell you why. because what the three things stephen misses is, yes, total fertility rates are falling down to about 2.3 now. but the population growth rate remains at 1. now as long as we

have 8 billion people, that means that in effect, 80 million extra mouths to feed every single year , a population the single year, a population the size of germany and want people viewing to take that in stock. a population the size of germany is added to the world's population every year. every right now we're about every 11 or 12 years there is an extra billion people on the earth. it's you know, the first took thousands of years to reach the first billion, 1850s or so. the second billion, the 1927. and it's really increased every every decade since then . so every decade since then. so we're now up to 8 billion and all projections, these whatever projections you look and i'm very suspicious of modelling on various issues. neil, as you're probably aware, but i think the un's got it pretty right and you know, you've got a general medium rate projection increase of 9.7 billion people by 2050 and 10.4 billion people by 2100 by the end of the century. so i think where this is this idea

that that we're going to have schools i saw steven's documentary with cobwebs on on desks simply isn't going to happen. desks simply isn't going to happen . it's going to take many, happen. it's going to take many, many years for population to decrease. and to be honest, we should celebrate this. we should celebrate reducing population because population increase is the biggest single factor environmental degradation on the earth . now, for i always cast earth. now, for i always cast mweett— earth. now, for i always cast mweett ee— earth. now, for i always cast mweett ee rwet— earth. now, for i always cast myself as just the- now, for i always cast myself as just the person in the mtttte. — myself as just the person in the mtttte. tew— myself as just the person in the middle. you know,— myself as just the person in the middle. you know, i'm listening. i'm middle. you know, i'm listening. t-m ttetemme— middle. you know, i'm listening. i'm listening to— middle. you know, i'm listening. i'm listening to you , seeing i'm listening to you, seeing wtet— i'm listening to you, seeing wtet wee— i'm listening to you, seeing what you're saying, and i'm ttetemme— what you're saying, and i'm ttetemme te— what you're saying, and i'm listening to steven and watching his listening to steven and watching tte tttm. — listening to steven and watching ttetttm. rm— listening to steven and watching his film. i'm listening to teette— his film. i'm listening to teette ttte— his film. i'm listening to people like elon musk, you know, wte-e— people like elon musk, you know, who's obviously— people like elon musk, you know, who's obviously credited as terme— who's obviously credited as teme e— who's obviously credited as being e ttt— who's obviously credited as being a bit of— who's obviously credited as being a bit of a— who's obviously credited as being a bit of a polymath and, you— being a bit of a polymath and, wew-emt— being a bit of a polymath and, wew-emet wttt— being a bit of a polymath and, you and with points of you know, and with points of wew— you know, and with points of te— you know, and with points of te te— you know, and with points of view to be taken— you know, and with points of view to be taken seriously. how is view to be taken seriously. how te-ttte— view to be taken seriously. how te-ttte me— view to be taken seriously. how te-ttte me te- view to be taken seriously. how is like me to decide and is someone like me to decide and to is someone like me to decide and te meeem— is someone like me to decide and to discern which— is someone like me to decide and to discern which of— is someone like me to decide and to discern which of these two very — to discern which of these two werw, wew— to discern which of these two very, very extreme views is eemeete— very, very extreme views is correct? you're _ very, very extreme views is correct? you're saying we've got far correct? you're saying we've got tw tee— correct? you're saying we've got tw tee memw— correct? you're saying we've got far too many people and we etwewe— far too many people and we etwewe wttt— far too many people and we always will have. and we're eemme— always will have. and we're eettme me— always will have. and we're getting more all time. getting more all the time. ttew-re— getting more all the time. ttew-re-tte- getting more all the time. they're the population they're saying the population is going— they're saying the population is eeme—et- going to dangerously fall off the going to dangerously fall off tte-ew—

going to dangerously fall off the our lifetimes. how the cliff in our lifetimes. how em — the cliff in our lifetimes. how em t— the cliff in our lifetimes. how em t te— the cliff in our lifetimes. how em t te mew— the cliff in our lifetimes. how am i to know who's telling the trwtt— am i to know who's telling the trwttlwte-e— am i to know who's telling the truth .who's got _ am i to know who's telling the truth .who's got it- am i to know who's telling the truth who's got it right? truth or who's got it right? wett— truth or who's got it right? wett. teet— truth or who's got it right? well, look at— truth or who's got it right? well, look at the- truth or who's got it right? well, look at the facts.- truth or who's got it right? well, look at the facts. i mean, as i say, i'm coming an as i say, i'm coming from an environmentalist, by the way , environmentalist, by the way, not not a not a climate change activist. a net activist. i'm actually a net zero i look at the zero sceptic. but i look at the whole picture from a sustainability point of view. the three interlocking circles of , society and of economy, society and environment. we've got look environment. we've got to look at a big picture view of everything and us obviously see, as i said from an environmental point of view. and just just quickly touch this, it's the biggest factor affecting biggest single factor affecting our environment. a great degradation on the earth. however to answer your question, why should not be worried? why should we not be worried? because shows is, is because what this shows is, is actually industrial countries , actually industrial countries, is women taking control of their bodies, of their careers, of their lives . and that, as their lives. and that, as i said, should be celebrate covid where stephen doesn't touch . he where stephen doesn't touch. he concentrates solely on industrial countries. what he doesn't touch on is the countries of sub—saharan africa, of the middle east. i'm also a patron of chase africa who are

the women of east africa, are crying out for contraception , crying out for contraception, for family planning aid. he is not touching that documentary where we've got 4 to 5 children per head in many countries. you would you would you would you dispute that throughout the film? there's talk of, you know, we meet— film? there's talk of, you know, we meet te — film? there's talk of, you know, we need to surviving— �*" i“7 there's talk of, you know, we need to surviving children per meter— we need to surviving children per meter te— we need to surviving children per mother to sustain populations- per mother to sustain populations and one of steven's eemtret— populations and one of steven's central contentions is that 70% of central contentions is that 70% et eewrtee— central contentions is that 70% of countries around the world, some developed,— of countries around the world, some developed, some developing , tetew— some developed, some developing , some are below two, right down at , some are below two, right down et te— , some are below two, right down et te emt— , some are below two, right down et we end we.— , some are below two, right down at 1.3 and 1.4. and— , some are below two, right down at 1.3 and 1.4. and that at1.3 and 1.4. and that therefore— at 1.3 and 1.4. and that therefore they're not capable of wetweme— therefore they're not capable of ttetweme tte— therefore they're not capable of producing the people who will twe— producing the people who will twe te— producing the people who will twe te ee— producing the people who will have to earn the— producing the people who will have to earn the money to pay for have to earn the money to pay ter ett— have to earn the money to pay ter ett tte— have to earn the money to pay for all the elderly— have to earn the money to pay for all the elderly people who wttt— for all the elderly people who wttt wetwettw— for all the elderly people who will gradually fill up the care temee— will gradually fill up the care temee emt— will gradually fill up the care homes and make that draw. do you do homes and make that draw. do you te wew— homes and make that draw. do you te wew ttetwte— homes and make that draw. do you do you dispute that— homes and make that draw. do you do you dispute that ? t:ti:t do you dispute that? i do dispute— do you dispute that? i do dispute that. _ do you dispute that? i do dispute that. firstly when you look at a compound rate, i mean, look at a compound rate, i mean, look at a compound rate, i mean, look at the uk alone , 10 million look at the uk alone, 10 million extra people in the last two decades. when you have that base level of growth. and as i said, again, that 18 million people every year, the number of

children being born, even though you're getting towards the replacement rate of 2—2 kids per woman , which is by un woman, which is not by un projections, not going to be reached till the end of the century, you're still getting an extra children extra huge number of children coming onto earth . number coming onto the earth. number one. second point, neil? one. your second point, neil? yes, the yes . one. your second point, neil? yes, the yes. um, an ageing population. it is an issue. it is, but it's been overexaggerated . we have many, overexaggerated. we have many, many decades to plan for this . many decades to plan for this. and whether it's retirement longer , whether it's cutting the longer, whether it's cutting the amount of money we spend on various wastes which have got a big thing about on environmental issues anyway , and we just put issues anyway, and we just put it into prepare for this to pay for elderly people. adrian, this is a conversation— for elderly people. adrian, this is a conversation i— for elderly people. adrian, this is a conversation i need- : adrian, this is a conversation i need to hear so is a conversation i need to hear ee mwet— is a conversation i need to hear so much more about. i'll be temeet— so much more about. i'll be temeet wttt— so much more about. i'll be honest with you,— so much more about. i'll be honest with you, find myself honest with you, i find myself etwet— honest with you, i find myself etwet-etett— honest with you, i find myself stuck-cleft stick. - honest with you, i find myself stuck cleft stick. i've stuck in a cleft stick. i've ttetemet— stuck in a cleft stick. i've listened to _ stuck in a cleft stick. i've listened to your contribution. stuck in a cleft stick. i've list listeno your contribution. stuck in a cleft stick. i've list listen to 'our contribution. stuck in a cleft stick. i've list listen to stevens ribution. stuck in a cleft stick. i've list listen to stevens and ion. i'll listen to stevens and i met.— i'll listen to stevens and i iwet. .— i'll listen to stevens and i rwet. t ttme— i'll listen to stevens and i just. i find that- i'll listen to stevens and i just. i find that i need to hear etewt— just. i find that i need to hear more about-and— just. i find that i need to hear more about and hopefully more about it. and hopefully wett— more about it. and hopefully we-ttlette— more about it. and hopefully we'll-able-that,- more about it. and hopefully we'll able that, you we'll be able to do that, you mew,— we'll be able to do that, you knew et— we'll be able to do that, you know, at-time.- we'll be able to do that, you know, at time. but thank know, at another time. but thank you know, at another time. but thank wew-wew— know, at another time. but thank you your contribution on you for your contribution on ttte— you for your contribution on ttte evening-— you for your contribution on this evening-are. you for your contribution on this evening. are you this evening. jasmine are you metttttet— this evening. jasmine are you mollified reassured by what

mollified and reassured by what attem— mollified and reassured by what atrtem-te— mollified and reassured by what adrian .to .there- mollified and reassured by what adrian to there after adrian had to say there after ttetemme— adrian had to say there after ttetemme te— adrian had to say there after listening to stephen? will listening to stephen? well, retter— listening to stephen? well, retter-t-m- listening to stephen? well, rather i'm thinking, listening to stephen? well, ratheon i'm thinking, listening to stephen? well, ratheon a i'm thinking, listening to stephen? well, ratheon a minute.1 thinking, listening to stephen? well, ratheon a minute. you nking, listening to stephen? well, ratheon a minute. you know which hold on a minute. you know which data this? but i think what data is this? but i think what i'm getting idea of is that i'm getting the idea of is that it is an imbalance that the reason why the population of the world is increasing is because people are generally living longer . so, you know, the birth longer. so, you know, the birth rate may be falling down that end, but this end, we've got perhaps more and more. so it's probably this imbalance that we need to address as well as women , men's and men's expectations . , men's and men's expectations. someone . in between the two has someone. in between the two has got someone. in between the two has eet tt— someone. in between the two has got it dreadfully— someone. in between the two has got it dreadfully wrong. and i ttmt— got it dreadfully wrong. and i ttmt tt— got it dreadfully wrong. and i ttmt tt te— got it dreadfully wrong. and i think it is incumbent upon us as a think it is incumbent upon us as e eteetee. — think it is incumbent upon us as e eteetee. tee— think it is incumbent upon us as a species. yes to— think it is incumbent upon us as a species. yes to work out where wttttm — a species. yes to work out where wttttm tteee— a species. yes to work out where within those two— a species. yes to work out where within those two extremes. yes yes:— within those two extremes. yes tee we— within those two extremes. yes tee we ttme— within those two extremes. yes yes, we find ourselves, what are we eeme— yes, we find ourselves, what are we going te— yes, we find ourselves, what are we going te tee — yes, we find ourselves, what are we going to do? “tit; �*ftt�*“ritc we going to do? yes. what's the best thing to do? terrifying etwtt. — best thing to do? terrifying stuff. potentially— “g t:tit7 terrifying stuff. potentially we've got wetter— stuff. potentially we've got another break— stuff. potentially we've got another break upon us. still to wtw— another break upon us. still to wtw e— another break upon us. still to come, why a secret roman wall tteeeweret— come, why a secret roman wall discovered beneath the city of tender— discovered beneath the city of temtem tee— discovered beneath the city of london has been— discovered beneath the city of london has been given the mweet— london has been given the

highest possible heritage tweeter.— highest possible heritage protection. you can't say we eem-t— protection. you can't say we tem-t emwee— protection. you can't say we don't change the- protection. you can't say we don't change the subject on this etew. — don't change the subject on this etew. eem-t— don't change the subject on this etew. tem-t 90— don't change the subject on this show. don't go anywhere

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as someone else used to say, archaeologists have captured a previously unknown glimpse of roman london. it seems that sometime in the third century ad, a wall was built along the river when the city needed the protection of massive defences. among much else. it suggests that by then the status of the city mattered to the romans and they went to great lengths to underline the importance of the place and keep it safe. joining me now to consider the latest understanding is jane siddell, principal inspector of ancient monuments at historic england. hello there . hi, neal. great to hello there. hi, neal. great to be hello there. hi, neal. great to te wttt— hello there. hi, neal. great to te wttt wew.— hello there. hi, neal. great to be with you. this— “tiii; hi, neal. great to be with you. this evening. ttew— be with you. this evening. ttmt wew. — be with you. this evening. thank you. great- be with you. this evening. thank you. great to - be with you. this evening. thank you. great to see you, too. where exactly have these discoveries been made in mighty . london. we have three new ettee— . london. we have three new ettee wmet— . london. we have three new sites which are— :“ we have three new sites which are really between temtem— sites which are really between london bridge— sites which are really between london bridge and the tower of tender.— london bridge and the tower of temtem mere— london bridge and the tower of london. there is— london bridge and the tower of london. there is an existing tteee— london. there is an existing tteee et— london. there is an existing tteee et tte— london. there is an existing piece of the riverside wall wtttm— piece of the riverside wall wttttm tte— piece of the riverside wall within the tower of london, but tteee— within the tower of london, but ttree mew— within the tower of london, but three new sites— within the tower of london, but three new sites turned up during emee— three new sites turned up during office development along the

twerette— office development along the ttwerette .— office development along the riverside . and— office development along the riverside . and when they came riverside. and when they came up, riverside. and when they came “pt tte — riverside. and when they came up, the riverside— riverside. and when they came up, the riverside wall was uncovered . and it's a very uncovered. and it's a very wmwewet— uncovered. and it's a very unusual structure. and that's why— unusual structure. and that's wtw we— unusual structure. and that's wtw we ttewett— unusual structure. and that's why we thought following the excavations— why we thought following the excavations by— why we thought following the excavations by the museum of tender— excavations by the museum of london archaeology team led by the london archaeology team led by tte trttttemt— london archaeology team led by the brilliant sadie— london archaeology team led by the brilliant sadie watson , we the brilliant sadie watson, we ttewett— the brilliant sadie watson, we ttewett wet— the brilliant sadie watson, we thought we'd undertake further reeewet emt— thought we'd undertake further research and look to see just tew— research and look to see just tew wmwewet— research and look to see just how unusual and— research and look to see just how unusual and how important the how unusual and how important tte wett— how unusual and how important tte wett wee— how unusual and how important tte wett .— how unusual and how important the wall was . and— how unusual and how important the wall was . and that's when we the wall was. and that's when we teettet— the wall was. and that's when we teettet te — the wall was. and that's when we decided to recommend it for treteettem— decided to recommend it for treteettem .— decided to recommend it for protection . we— decided to recommend it for protection . we put that to the protection. we put that to the tetwtmemt— protection. we put that to the tetwtmemt et— protection. we put that to the department of culture , media and department of culture, media and stert— department of culture, media and stert emt— department of culture, media and stert emt ttew— department of culture, media and sport and they agreed that this was sport and they agreed that this reettw— sport and they agreed that this was really unusual. sport and they agreed that this was really unusual . and so they was really unusual. and so they wemtet— was really unusual. and so they wemtet tt— was really unusual. and so they granted it protection and ttew-re— granted it protection and ttew-re mew— granted it protection and they're now scheduled ancient monuments. so— they're now scheduled ancient monuments . tilwkirfiflcg they're now scheduled ancient monuments. tilwkitfificcg they're now scheduled ancient monuments . tilwkitfificcg monuments. so exactly what has been found for people catching those glimpses there of the of the footage we showed and what is what's so unusual that that captured attention . what we've captured attention. what we've got is the remains of a riverside wall. it's a probably etewt— riverside wall. it's a probably etewt e— riverside wall. it's a probably about a kilometre— . t:ti; it's a probably about a kilometre and a half teme— about a kilometre and a half long going— about a kilometre and a half long going trem— about a kilometre and a half long going from blackfriars down to long going from blackfriars down te tte— long going from blackfriars down te tte tewer— long going from blackfriars down to the tower of— long going from blackfriars down to the tower of london. and the

eemetrwettem— to the tower of london. and the construction is— to the tower of london. and the construction is in— to the tower of london. and the construction is in two parts. mere-e— construction is in two parts. ttere-e e— construction is in two parts. there's a masonry wall that sits on there's a masonry wall that sits em ttmter— there's a masonry wall that sits on timber piles— there's a masonry wall that sits on timber piles and that's built of on timber piles and that's built et temttet— on timber piles and that's built of kentish ragstone. kentish weeeeet.— of kentish ragstone. kentish hassock, stone _ of kentish ragstone. kentish hassock, stone and then roman trtete— hassock, stone and then roman trtete emt— hassock, stone and then roman bricks, and then— hassock, stone and then roman bricks, and then in— hassock, stone and then roman bricks, and then in front of ttet— bricks, and then in front of ttet ee— bricks, and then in front of that are the— bricks, and then in front of that are the remains of actually a that are the remains of actually e ettetttw— that are the remains of actually a slightly earlier— that are the remains of actually a slightly earlier timber box quay— a slightly earlier timber box ewew teeee— a slightly earlier timber box quay because the roman wharf was this quay because the roman wharf was ttte teme— quay because the roman wharf was this long structure— quay because the roman wharf was this long structure kilometre emt— this long structure kilometre emt e— this long structure kilometre emt e tetr— this long structure kilometre and a half long,— this long structure kilometre and a half long, where the boats wewtt— and a half long, where the boats wewtt ewtt— and a half long, where the boats wewtt twtt wt— and a half long, where the boats wewtt twtt wt te— and a half long, where the boats would pull up to and they'd ettteet— would pull up to and they'd offload people— would pull up to and they'd offload people and they'd ettteet— offload people and they'd offload goods— offload people and they'd offload goods and then take on teette— offload goods and then take on teette emt— offload goods and then take on people and goods. and this was the people and goods. and this was tte tewt— people and goods. and this was tte tewt et— people and goods. and this was the heart of trading in the temem— the heart of trading in the roman empire.— the heart of trading in the roman empire. so london, roman temtem— roman empire. so london, roman temtem wee— roman empire. so london, roman temtem met— roman empire. so london, roman london was not just— roman empire. so london, roman london was not just a city, a temeette— london was not just a city, a domestic city,— london was not just a city, a domestic city, a— london was not just a city, a domestic city, a place of temttee— domestic city, a place of temttee. e— domestic city, a place of temples, a place of forum, the teetttee. — temples, a place of forum, the basilica. but— temples, a place of forum, the basilica. but it— temples, a place of forum, the basilica. but it was a trading eeme— basilica. but it was a trading centre traded— basilica. but it was a trading centre traded all— basilica. but it was a trading centre traded all across the emtte— centre traded all across the emttre wttt— centre traded all across the empire with goods coming in, going— empire with goods coming in, going ewt— empire with goods coming in, going ewt. emt— empire with goods coming in, going out, and then for some reason, and this— going out, and then for some reason, and this is why it is so were— reason, and this is why it is so wetrt m— reason, and this is why it is so wetrt m tte— reason, and this is why it is so weird in the third— reason, and this is why it is so weird in the third century to tte— weird in the third century to use the technical term, a great big wett— use the technical term, a great big wett wee— use the technical term, a great big wall was built. we think mewte— big wall was built. we think mewte tew— big wall was built. we think maybe four five— big wall was built. we think maybe four five metres high and maybe four five metres hiin and it maybe four five metres high and tt ewt— maybe four five metres high and tt ewt ett— maybe four five metres high and tt ewt ett tte— maybe four five metres high and it cut off the wharf. it cut off tte— it cut off the wharf. it cut off tte wtem— it cut off the wharf. it cut off the wharf from _

it cut off the wharf. it cut off the wharf from the city and eet— the wharf from the city and we've got unanswered questions ttet— we've got unanswered questions ttet we— we've got unanswered questions ttet we etttt— we've got unanswered questions that we still need— we've got unanswered questions that we still need to know etewt. — that we still need to know etewt. we— that we still need to know about. we need- that we still need to know about. we need to know how it wertet— about. we need to know how it worked because _ about. we need to know how it worked because you have to get ttrewet— worked because you have to get ttrewet e— worked because you have to get ttrewet e wett— worked because you have to get through a wall-is- worked because you have to get through a wall is the through a wall and this is the ttme— through a wall and this is the ttme-met— through a wall and this is the thing not everyone thing that not everyone understands— thing that not everyone understands defensive understands about defensive wette—te- understands about defensive wette—te te- understands about defensive. walls._to be portals understands about defensive wagates to be portals understands about defensive wagates through to be portals understands about defensive wagates through them; portals understands about defensive wagates through them . portals understands about defensive wagates through them . now ls understands about defensive wagates through them . now we've or gates through them. now we've got or gates through them. now we've eetltemtwert— or gates through them. now we've gotllandward wall— or gates through them. now we've got landward wall in london got a landward wall in london ttet-e— got a landward wall in london ttet-e tteee— got a landward wall in london that's three kilometres long and ttet— that's three kilometres long and ttet tee— that's three kilometres long and ttet tee e— that's three kilometres long and that has a series— that's three kilometres long and that has a series of gates. so tteeee— that has a series of gates. so tteeee ttte— that has a series of gates. so places like bishopsgate , that's places like bishopsgate, that's the places like bishopsgate, that's tte temem— places like bishopsgate, that's the roman gate— places like bishopsgate, that's the roman gate through the wall, weereete— the roman gate through the wall, weereete eete— the roman gate through the wall, moorgate gate,-the - the roman gate through the wall, moorgate gate, the gate moorgate gate, that's the gate ttrewet— moorgate gate, that's the gate through-roman— moorgate gate, that's the gate through roman wall. how through the roman wall. but how teee—eme- through the roman wall. but how does—one work?- does the riverside one work? wtet-e— does the riverside one work? wtet-e going— does the riverside one work? wtet-e going em— does the riverside one work? what's going on here? and does it what's going on here? and does tt weem— what's going on here? and does tt ttet— what's going on here? and does it mean that does— what's going on here? and does it mean that does it does it ttet— it mean that does it does it mean that although they were wett— mean that although they were wett ewete— mean that although they were well aware of— mean that although they were well aware of the importance of the well aware of the importance of tte tert— well aware of the importance of tte tert emt— well aware of the importance of the port and the— well aware of the importance of the port and the necessity of teete.— the port and the necessity of trete. ttet— the port and the necessity of trade, that priority decision trade, that a priority decision was-, were they- trade, that a priority decision was , were they were they was made, were they were they wemet — was made, were they were they worried about— was made, were they were they worried about some kind of weremet— worried about some kind of riverborne seaborne attack that ttew— riverborne seaborne attack that ttew ewe.— riverborne seaborne attack that ttew eett. mett— riverborne seaborne attack that they said, right, we need the port,— they said, right, we need the tert. twt— they said, right, we need the tert. twt wete— they said, right, we need the port, but we're going to do wtttewt— port, but we're going to do wtttewt tt— port, but we're going to do without it for— port, but we're going to do without it for now . this is what without it for now. this is what we ttmt— without it for now. this is what we ttmt te— without it for now. this is what we think is happening now, the ttme— we think is happening now, the tttrt eemtwrw. — we think is happening now, the third century. there's some twtwtemee— third century. there's some turbulence going on in the emttee.— turbulence going on in the empire. there— turbulence going on in the empire. there have been plagues. mere— empire. there have been plagues. mere-teem— empire. there have been plagues. there been diseases, there there have been diseases, there twe— there have been diseases, there wwe-wmtee— there have been diseases, there have-under settled- there have been diseases, there have under settled times. have been under settled times. amt— have been under settled times. amt ee— have been under settled times. amt ee we— have been under settled times. and so we think— have been under settled times. and so we think potentially the

wett— and so we think potentially the wet wee— and so we think potentially the wall was built— and so we think potentially the wall was built because there was a wall was built because there was e tte—emette— wall was built because there was a pre—emptive need for defence. so a pre—emptive need for defence. se t— a pre—emptive need for defence. se t tttmt— a pre—emptive need for defence. so i think that's— a pre—emptive need for defence. so i think that's it.— a pre—emptive need for defence. so i think that's it. there's no ewteme— so i think that's it. there's no ewtemee et— so i think that's it. there's no evidence at the— so i think that's it. there's no evidence at the time that there etteete— evidence at the time that there were attacks on— evidence at the time that there were attacks on london, but we tttmt— were attacks on london, but we tttmt tt— were attacks on london, but we tttmt tt mew— were attacks on london, but we think it may have— were attacks on london, but we think it may have been a tte—emette— think it may have been a pre—emptive strike to build the wett— pre—emptive strike to build the wall because _ pre—emptive strike to build the wall because it's— pre—emptive strike to build the wall because it's quite a big tmweetmemt— wall because it's quite a big investment and— wall because it's quite a big investment and it's quite a big wmtertettmt— investment and it's quite a big wmtertettmt te— investment and it's quite a big undertaking to build such a twee.— undertaking to build such a large, substantial, long wall. so large, substantial, long wall. seitttmt— large, substantial, long wall. so.think that's- large, substantial, long wall. so think that's what's going so we think that's what's going on. so we think that's what's going mere-e— so we think that's what's going on. there's economic uncertainty , on. there's economic uncertainty .-twe— on. there's economic uncertainty .-twe-tteeeee.- on. there's economic uncertainty , have disease, there , there have been disease, there twe— , there have been disease, there twe-teett— , there have been disease, there twe-teett .— , there have been disease, there have-death . and- , there have been disease, there have death . and we have been death. and so we tttmt— have been death. and so we tttmt. wee.— have been death. and so we think, yes, defence, the wharf etwewetw— think, yes, defence, the wharf obviously had— think, yes, defence, the wharf obviously had to— think, yes, defence, the wharf obviously had to function teewee— obviously had to function because goods- obviously had to function because goods had to come into temtem— because goods had to come into temtem. teette— because goods had to come into london, people had to come into temtem— london, people had to come into temtem. teette— london, people had to come into london, people had— london, people had to come into london, people had to come into london, people had to leave temtem— london, people had to leave temtem. tt— london, people had to leave london. it was— london, people had to leave london. it was the centre of the administration— london. it was the centre of the administration-the- london. it was the centre of the administration the province administration for the province of administration for the province et—teette- administration for the province et—teette werel of britannia. so people were mewmt— of britannia. so people were moving regularly in and out of the moving regularly in and out of tte ettw. — moving regularly in and out of the city. jasmine— moving regularly in and out of the city. jasmine a- moving regularly in and out of the city. ' g. the city. jasmine a glimpse of drama . you know, there was drama. you know, there was something that people felt, we've got to make a massive investment of effort investment of time and effort here to protect from the possibility of. and we don't know i'm just wondering if know what. i'm just wondering if it a know what. i'm just wondering if tt-e eeet— know what. i'm just wondering if tt-e eert et— know what. i'm just wondering if it-a sort of customs- i'm just wondering if it a sort of customs and it was a sort of customs and wett— it was a sort of customs and excise wall, know, that if excise wall, you know, that if it excise wall, you know, that if tt-e— excise wall, you know, that if tt-e tteee — excise wall, you know, that if it. a place where - excise wall, you know, that if it a place where those it was a place where those tmeemtmt— it was a place where those incoming-stop- it was a place where those incoming-stop ,- it was a place where those incoming stop , show it was a place where those- incoming-stop , show their incoming had to stop, show their tetem—remem-

papers or, you know, roman emt— papers or, you know, roman version and just— papers or, you know, roman version and just just be checked over, who knows— version and just just be checked over, who knows ? _ version and just just be checked over, who knows ? c t?" over, who knows? it's an extraordinary thing. is it all built upon now?— extraordinary thing. is it all built upon now? is- extraordinary thing. is it all built upon now? is it- : “3 is it all built upon now? is it just eeetet— built upon now? is it just sealed and— built upon now? is it just sealed and buried or will people be sealed and buried or will people te ette— sealed and buried or will people te ette te— sealed and buried or will people be able to catch— sealed and buried or will people be able to catch a— sealed and buried or will people be able to catch a glimpse of ttte— be able to catch a glimpse of ttte etem— be able to catch a glimpse of ttte etem .— be able to catch a glimpse of this again , the— be able to catch a glimpse of this again , the three new this again, the three new etretetee— this again, the three new stretches are _ this again, the three new stretches are all buried. ' “t: stretches are all buried. and so you— stretches are all buried. and so wew mtttt— stretches are all buried. and so wew mtttt eet.— stretches are all buried. and so you might ask, why did we bother protecting them? but the reason we bother protecting them is that in 40 or 50 years time, um, the new buildings will come down. and at that point the legal protection will come into play. and this sounds like, you know, an awfully long way off, but as archaeologists, as you all know, we're in this for the long haul and just up the road at vyne street in the city of london, an element of the landward wall has just gone on pubuc landward wall has just gone on public show . now. that's public show. now. that's exciting stuff . it was found in exciting stuff. it was found in the early 80. gene i'm just i've run out of time here. i could obviously with— run out of time here. i could obviously with an— i“ c ”t“ii; i could obviously with an archaeological teeterewmt— obviously with an archaeological teettrewmt. .— obviously with an archaeological background, i could keep talking to background, i could keep talking te wew.— background, i could keep talking te wew-ltewe— background, i could keep talking te you-ilove tte— background, i could keep talking to you. love the continually to you. i love the continually wmtetttmt— to you. i love the continually unfolding story— to you. i love the continually unfolding story of london. thank you,— unfolding story of london. thank wew. teme— unfolding story of london. thank wew. weme swtett— unfolding story of london. thank you, jane sydell tonight . that's you, jane sydell tonight. that's all

you, jane sydell tonight. that's ett ter— you, jane sydell tonight. that's ett ter ttte— you, jane sydell tonight. that's all for this week. _ you, jane sydell tonight. that's all for this week. thanks to my tweete— all for this week. thanks to my tweete stettem— all for this week. thanks to my guests stephen shaw, adrian tewee— guests stephen shaw, adrian hayes-siddall,- guests stephen shaw, adrian. hayes-siddall,-my hayes and jane siddall, and my wemtertwt— hayes and jane siddall, and my wonderful jasmine wonderful panellist, jasmine ewttee— wonderful panellist, jasmine ttrtteelwext— wonderful panellist, jasmine birtles i next-the - birtles. next up, it's the common sense crusade. see you common sense crusade. see you meet— common sense crusade. see you meet setwtew. — common sense crusade. see you next saturday. hello- common sense crusade. see you next saturday. ”t“ii; next saturday. hello there. i'm greg dewhurst and welcome to your latest gb news weather forecast. so we move into sunday. we'll see rain across the north and the west of the uk. sunny and sunny spells holding for on much of england and wales . we could see that on and wales. we could see that on the bigger picture. this weather front slowly its way front slowly pushes its way southwards and southwards through sunday and then across england and wales into introducing fresher into monday, introducing fresher air from the north behind it. so towards the end of saturday, it's generally fine and dry for much of the uk. low cloud continues to slip back south westwards across england and wales . and here's that weather wales. and here's that weather front across northern ireland and northwest scotland, giving some outbreaks of rain during the early hours under any clear spells , temperatures will dip spells, temperatures will dip into single figures where we keep cloud and the rain , it keep the cloud and the rain, it will remain in double figures to start sunday so start on sunday morning. so a wet picture across northern

ireland, scotland during the morning. wales. morning. england and wales. after a cloudy start, it should brighten up. we'll some hazy brighten up. we'll see some hazy spells sunshine developing. spells of sunshine developing. we could see 2 showers get we could see 1 or 2 showers get triggered in the afternoon in the of sunshine . the warmth of that sunshine. highs reaching into the low 20s fresher behind this weather front as it turns drier for northern north west northern ireland. north west scotland and though often quite cloudy with some sunny cloudy here with some sunny spells into the evening. spells through into the evening. time this weather front pushes a little bit further south and eastwards. eventually albie arriving across southeast england into the early hours behind it, clear spells and scattered showers as we head towards monday morning. some of the showers could be heavy at times. overnight, temperatures generally single figures behind that weather front across the north and the west holding up around 12 in london. but around 12 degrees in london. but it means a grey start monday morning in the southeast with some outbreaks of rain. this pushes away bright skies following spells , but following some sunny spells, but the risk of showers following on from the north. some of these could be heavy at times. the odd

rumble of thunder is possible and temperatures is fresher for all showers on tuesday, too. but then it should be drier for wednesday. temperatures rising a little

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