channel albie. good afternoon and welcome. this is gb news on tv, onune welcome. this is gb news on tv, online and on digital radio. i'm nana akua and for the next few hours, me and my panel will be taking on some of the big topics hitting the headlines right now. this show is all about opinion. it's mine, it's theirs, and of course, it's we'll be course, it's yours. we'll be debating, discussing, and at times disagree, no times we will disagree, but no one be cancelled . so one will be cancelled. so joining in the next hour, joining me in the next hour, going head is the leader going head to head is the leader of heritage david of the heritage party, david kirton, also political kirton, and also political commentator matt stadlen . and commentator matt stadlen. and then between 4 and 6, author and

broadcaster christine hamilton and broadcaster and journalist danny be live in the danny kelly will be live in the studio but before we get studio. but before we get started, let's get your latest news headlines . thank you started, let's get your latest news headlines. thank you very much,— news headlines. thank you very much, nana.— news headlines. thank you very much, nana. i'm— news headlines. thank you very much, nana. i'm rory- : thank you very much, nana. i'm rory smith in the ea— much, nana. i'm rory smith in the gb newsroom— much, nana. i'm rory smith in the gb newsroom ._ much, nana. i'm rory smith in the gb newsroom . nurses are the gb newsroom. nurses are caning— the gb newsroom. nurses are calling for— the gb newsroom. nurses are calling for a— the gb newsroom. nurses are calling for a double digit pay offer— calling for a double digit pay offer to— calling for a double digit pay offer to prevent— calling for a double digit pay offer to prevent further strike action. — offer to prevent further strike action. n...— offer to prevent further strike action. the head— offer to prevent further strike action. the head of the royal college— action. the head of the royal couege of— action. the head of the royal college of nursing, pat cullen, tom— college of nursing, pat cullen, tom the— college of nursing, pat cullen, told the sunday— college of nursing, pat cullen, told the sunday times the government— told the sunday times the government risks another six months— government risks another six months of— government risks another six months of industrial action if negotiations— months of industrial action if negotiations aren't reopened and embe— negotiations aren't reopened and members rejected— negotiations aren't reopened and members rejected a 5% offer wbbeb— members rejected a 5% offer wbbeb wee— members rejected a 5% offer which was accepted by 14 other . a— which was accepted by 14 other . a merr— which was accepted by 14 other unions . a new ballot for strikes unions. a new ballot for strikes wru— unions. a new ballot for strikes wbbb be— unions. a new ballot for strikes wbbb be bere— unions. a new ballot for strikes will be held later— unions. a new ballot for strikes will be held later this month. webb— will be held later this month. well residents— will be held later this month. well residents in— will be held later this month. well residents in north devon rebe— well residents in north devon robe be— well residents in north devon bore me mer— well residents in north devon told us they need to consider me— told us they need to consider rbe eurrem— told us they need to consider the current economic climate. i do the current economic climate. i be bebeve— the current economic climate. i do believe they— the current economic climate. i do believe they are worth every penny— do believe they are worth every penny er— do believe they are worth every penny of 5,— do believe they are worth every penny er 5, bur— do believe they are worth every penny er 5, bur. — do believe they are worth every penny of 5, but. do believe they are worth every penny of 5, but . penny of 5, but. but whether they're worth more , i think they're worth more, i think probably yes. but we they're worth more, i think probably yes . but we definitely probably yes. but we definitely need them and we need the health

service. it's being run down by this government, which can't blame them for covid because there's a new disease, but the rest of it they mucked up. i think they should accept the offer that's on the table because we're all suffering from the cost of living crisis . and the cost of living crisis. and as a pensioner , t l , g rt and as a pensioner , although we've as a pensioner, although we've bee— as a pensioner, although we've me a— as a pensioner, although we've me a big— as a pensioner, although we've me a big mee— as a pensioner, although we've had a big rise this— as a pensioner, although we've had a big rise this time, it's brebebbr— had a big rise this time, it's brebebby mer— had a big rise this time, it's probably not going to last. and we're affected _ probably not going to last. and we're affected by— probably not going to last. and we're affected by everything as web— we're affected by everything as web. — we're affected by everything as well . suggestions— we're affected by everything as well . suggestions of- we're affected by everything as well . 33 l. "rise well. suggestions of unrest within the conservative party are being downplayed after the prime minister was blamed for the recent local election results . rishi sunak the recent local election results. rishi sunak is facing criticism after nearly 1000 councillors were lost and the decision to scale back post brexit plans to scrap eu laws. well, former home secretary priti patel accused the leader of failing to listen to his own party, adding the tories hadn't covered itself in glory since bofis covered itself in glory since boris johnson's leadership, energy secretary grant shapps says the pm is doing the right things and people just need to

be patient . i things and people just need to be patient. i think this and she reremme— be patient. i think this and she was referring to _ be patient. i think this and she was referring to the— i think this and she was referring to the set of ebeerbem— was referring to the set of elections which - was referring to the set of elections which were obviously very— elections which were obviously very embebb— elections which were obviously very difficult for— elections which were obviously very difficult for the conservatives. there weren't a good— conservatives. there weren't a good eer— conservatives. there weren't a good eer er— conservatives. there weren't a good set of elections for us, bur— good set of elections for us, bur mm— good set of elections for us, but this was— good set of elections for us, but this was the— good set of elections for us, but this was the first ebbermmrr- but this was the first opportunity the people have had to opportunity the people have had re eermmem— opportunity the people have had to comment on— opportunity the people have had to comment on all— opportunity the people have had to comment on all the shenanigans- to comment on all the shenanigans of last summer and rbeee— shenanigans of last summer and be many— shenanigans of last summer and those many leadership changes mer— those many leadership changes rber mem— those many leadership changes rber mem — those many leadership changes that went on. i— those many leadership changes that went on. i think people remme— that went on. i think people were venting their frustration. i were venting their frustration. r rememb— were venting their frustration. i actually think— were venting their frustration. i actually think that rishi semb— i actually think that rishi sbmeb m— i actually think that rishi sunak in his— i actually think that rishi sunak in his five point plan to babe— sunak in his five point plan to halve inflation— sunak in his five point plan to halve inflation and grow the economy— halve inflation and grow the economy emb— halve inflation and grow the economy and reduce use our debt emb— economy and reduce use our debt and em— economy and reduce use our debt and em me— economy and reduce use our debt and cut the nhs_ economy and reduce use our debt and cut the nhs waiting list and ebb— and cut the nhs waiting list and ebb me— and cut the nhs waiting list and ereb rbe emebb— and cut the nhs waiting list and stop the small boats. i think bee— stop the small boats. i think me doing— stop the small boats. i think he's doing exactly the right rbmee— he's doing exactly the right rbmge eme— he's doing exactly the right things and i'd— he's doing exactly the right things and i'd let us judge him memer— things and i'd let us judge him egemer mar.— things and i'd let us judge him against that. let's— things and i'd let us judge him against that. let's judge this geremmem— against that. let's judge this government against that. when it comes—election- government against that. when it comes—election .- government against that. when it comes—election . in. comes to the next election. in emer— comes to the next election. in emer mewe— comes to the next election. in other news, the— comes to the next election. in other news, the shadow business seerererw— other news, the shadow business seerererw bee— other news, the shadow business secretary has defended plans to ewe— secretary has defended plans to give werereb— secretary has defended plans to give workers the _ secretary has defended plans to give workers the right to switch off give workers the right to switch or were — give workers the right to switch off outside of— give workers the right to switch off outside of working hours. bebbwr— off outside of working hours. labour wants— off outside of working hours. labour wants to _ off outside of working hours. labour wants to restrict- labour wants to restrict employers from contacting staff by phone or by email, saying workers should be able to disconnect from devices in their own time . similar legislation is own time. similar legislation is already in place in france. well

jonathan nettles told us it will promote productivity . i think we promote productivity. i think we do want to promote productivity. i think we rb wem be e— promote productivity. i think we do want to see the— promote productivity. i think we do want to see the kind- :t , car i think we do want to see the kind of embbewmem— do want to see the kind of employment laws that will brereer— employment laws that will protect family— employment laws that will protect family life, give people rbme— protect family life, give people rbme m— protect family life, give people some time in order to do the emer— some time in order to do the emer rbmee— some time in order to do the other things that— some time in order to do the other things that important other things that are important in other things that are important m-webb— other things that are important m-webb ee— other things that are important in -well as work.- other things that are important in-well as work. i- other things that are important in well as work. i think in life as well as work. i think were— in life as well as work. i think were beer— in life as well as work. i think that's been eroded very significantly— that's been eroded very- significantly -years. significantly in recent years. i rbmb— significantly in recent years. i think-labour— significantly in recent years. i think labour market itself think the labour market itself mer— think the labour market itself means that more— think the labour market itself means that more people want rbexbbbbw— flexibility in the workplace, bur— flexibility in the workplace, but. absolutely - flexibility in the workplace, but-absolutely in but i'm absolutely confident in the but i'm absolutely confident in rbe-bberrerm- but i'm absolutely confident in the platform we'll put the aggregate platform we'll put remem— the aggregate platform we'll put rerwerelrbe— the aggregate platform we'll put forward-the one— the aggregate platform we'll put forward the one will forward is the one that will ewe— forward is the one that will give beebbe— forward is the one that will give people and optimism give people hope and optimism and give people hope and optimism ewe—brewed- give people hope and optimism ewe—brewed .| and turn this country around. amer— and turn this country around. amer b— and turn this country around. after 13 years— and turn this country around. after 13 years of— and turn this country around. after 13 years of conservative ewe-mmem — after 13 years of conservative government. meanwhile the party ewe— government. meanwhile the party eewelbee— government. meanwhile the party eewelbee brewe— government. meanwhile the party sayslhas plans to— government. meanwhile the party says has plans to create says it has plans to create wooe— says it has plans to create eoeoo mew— says it has plans to create 80,000 new jobs in the car bmbwerw— 80,000 new jobs in the car meweww . — 80,000 new jobs in the car industry. labour- 80,000 new jobs in the car industry . ” 80,000 new jobs in the car industry. l 80,000 new jobs in the car industry . ” l ll industry. labour says it will part finance the eight factories to achieve its goal . it will to achieve its goal. it will also help power nearly 2 million electric vehicles. it says the proposal will see the west midlands benefit from 28,000 jobs and 11,000 roles will be created in the north—west turkey is bracing itself for possible protests . that's as a result of

protests. that's as a result of the presidential election. voters are deciding whether or not president erdogan , who's not president erdogan, who's beenin not president erdogan, who's been in power for 20 years, should be re—elected . and while should be re—elected. and while opinion polls ahead of the ballot give his main rival, kamil kilicdaroglu, a slight lead, a clearer indication of the first round result is expected this evening . russian expected this evening. russian missiles have hit the city of ternopil , home to this year's ternopil, home to this year's ukrainian eurovision entry. there were fired as the pop group davahchi performed in liverpool with the state emergency service posting a video of a warehouse that was hit. meanwhile, ukraine's president vladimir zelenskyy, has secured more military aid from germany , thanking from germany, thanking chancellor olaf scholz and his government for their solidarity . he merseyside police has praised eurovision fans for enjoying the event responsibly and safely. more than half a million people were in liverpool over the last nine days, making it the force's biggest policing

operation to date. swedish singer loreen made history by becoming the only woman to win the event twice , and the uk's the event twice, and the uk's entry mae muller finished second last ipsis gb news. we'll bring you more as it happens. now, though, it's back to nana . though, it's back to nana. good afternoon and though, it's back to nana.- . good afternoon and welcome though, it's back to nana.- - good afternoon and welcome to good afternoon and welcome to gb - good afternoon and welcome to be —embme— - good afternoon and welcome to eb—embme emb- . good afternoon and welcome to gb _online and on- gb news on tv, online and on brewer— gb news on tv, online and on brewer mere. — gb news on tv, online and on digital radio. i'm— gb news on tv, online and on digital radio. i'm nana o'quinn. it's digital radio. i'm nana o'quinn. be me— digital radio. i'm nana o'quinn. rr-e rbme rer— digital radio. i'm nana o'quinn. it's time for-to— digital radio. i'm nana o'quinn. it's time for-to _andl it's time for head to head and germ— it's time for head to head and germ bere— it's time for head to head and getting head head . joined getting head to head. i'm joined by getting head to head. i'm joined bw—werbreee- getting head to head. i'm joined bw—werbreee rerwl by leader of the heritage party ,—ebee- , david kirton and also bebrbeeb— , david kirton and also political commentator matthew srerbeme— political commentator matthew srerbeme .— political commentator matthew statland . well,— political commentator matthew statland . well, coming up is the statland. well, coming up is the kerr— statland. well, coming up is the kerr srermer— statland. well, coming up is the keir starmer excuse me, trying to keir starmer excuse me, trying re rig— keir starmer excuse me, trying re rig me— keir starmer excuse me, trying to rig the system— keir starmer excuse me, trying to rig the system and gain mbbbeme— to rig the system and gain millions more— to rig the system and gain millions more votes. and the labour— millions more votes. and the labour leader— millions more votes. and the labour leader is— millions more votes. and the labour leader is set to allow mbbbeme— labour leader is set to allow mbbbeme er— labour leader is set to allow millions of eu— labour leader is set to allow millions of eu citizens in 16 me— millions of eu citizens in 16 and w— millions of eu citizens in 16 and w weer— millions of eu citizens in 16 and 17 year olds_ millions of eu citizens in 16 and 17 year olds to vote if the party— and 17 year olds to vote if the berry wme— and 17 year olds to vote if the berry me— and 17 year olds to vote if the party wins the next election. wber— party wins the next election. wber eb— party wins the next election. wber be web— party wins the next election. what do you make of this? is he bbemme— what do you make of this? is he bbemmglrbe—

what do you make of this? is he bbemmglrbe br— what do you make of this? is he planning-rig it and- what do you make of this? is he planning rig it and then on planning to rig it and then on the-historic- planning to rig it and then on the-historic raaf. planning to rig it and then on the historic raaf base the way? and historic raaf base is the way? and historic raaf base beire— the way? and historic raaf base beire rum— the way? and historic raaf base is-to turn into— the way? and historic raaf base is-to turn into a— the way? and historic raaf base is to turn into a migrant is set to turn into a migrant emb— is set to turn into a migrant eemb. wrer— is set to turn into a migrant camp. raaf scampton, where the bembwerer— camp. raaf scampton, where the dambuster squadron created, dambuster squadron was created, is dambuster squadron was created, be—er— dambuster squadron was created, be—er beme— is now at risk of being eemwerreb— is now at risk of being converted into camp for over converted into a camp for over 2000— converted into a camp for over 2000 eewbwm — converted into a camp for over 2000 asylum seekers . are we 2000 asylum seekers. are we beerrewme— 2000 asylum seekers. are we beerrewmg ew— 2000 asylum seekers. are we destroying our own history to beware— destroying our own history to facilitate and _ destroying our own history to facilitate and house migrants ? facilitate and house migrants? rmem— facilitate and house migrants? rbem a— facilitate and house migrants? then? a labour— facilitate and house migrants? then? a labour mp has suggested eewmbbe— then? a labour mp has suggested councils should— then? a labour mp has suggested councils should introduce limits of councils should introduce limits er rem— councils should introduce limits er rem mbbee— councils should introduce limits of ten miles per— councils should introduce limits of ten miles per hour near residential— of ten miles per hour near residential areas, despite the beer— residential areas, despite the beer mer— residential areas, despite the fact that some— residential areas, despite the fact that some speeders on cars beeem-r— fact that some speeders on cars beeem-r eem— fact that some speeders on cars doesn't even start— fact that some speeders on cars doesn't even start till 20. but at doesn't even start till 20. but er rme— doesn't even start till 20. but er rbbe berm,— doesn't even start till 20. but at this point, where are we berrer— at this point, where are we berrer err— at this point, where are we better off walking than driving? and better off walking than driving? amb m— better off walking than driving? and in another— better off walking than driving? and in another tory civil war brewmb— and in another tory civil war brewing following the conservative democratic organisation _ conservative democratic organisation event yesterday, rebr— organisation event yesterday, real conservatives are talking ebewr— real conservatives are talking ebewr ee— real conservatives are talking ebewr mem— real conservatives are talking about one man and one man only berbe— about one man and one man only berbe bbmeem— about one man and one man only boris johnson. could— about one man and one man only boris johnson. could a return be on boris johnson. could a return be em me— boris johnson. could a return be em rbe embe— boris johnson. could a return be on the cards and— boris johnson. could a return be on the cards and then stay tuned beee— on the cards and then stay tuned bee emer— on the cards and then stay tuned because after coming second from berrem— because after coming second from berrem m— because after coming second from berrem be me— because after coming second from bottom in this year's eurovision , be— bottom in this year's eurovision , be br— bottom in this year's eurovision , be br em— bottom in this year's eurovision , is it any surprise— bottom in this year's eurovision , is it any surprise that we berrermeb— , is it any surprise that we performed how— , is it any surprise that we performed how we did and when we beerb— performed how we did and when we beerb bree— performed how we did and when we heard mae muller,— performed how we did and when we heard mae muller, who openly eebb— heard mae muller, who openly eebb ebe— heard mae muller, who openly said she hated— heard mae muller, who openly said she hated britain, she also eebb— said she hated britain, she also said something— said she hated britain, she also said something about boris rebmeem— said something about boris rebmeem emb— said something about boris johnson and wished that he died bwrbme— johnson and wished that he died bwrbmg cowb— johnson and wished that he died during covid, which is quite

beeebeebbe— during covid, which is quite despicable. competition was despicable. the competition was beereb— hosted in liverpool, the city wbere— hosted in liverpool, the city wbere-er— hosted in liverpool, the city where - of - people i where many of the people bbemrbrwbmg— where many of the people identifying as— where many of the people identifying as scouse, not bmebbeb— identifying as scouse, not english. that's- identifying as scouse, not english. that's coming up. we'll be—ber— english. that's coming up. we'll be—ber emb- english. that's coming up. we'll be_her and all- english. that's coming up. we'll be_her and all of- be discussing her and all of mer— be discussing her and all of mm m— be discussing her and all of that in-next_ be discussing her and all of that in next hour. as ever. that in the next hour. as ever. beb— that in the next hour. as ever. bebb me— that in the next hour. as ever. bebb me wber— that in the next hour. as ever. tell me what you— that in the next hour. as ever. tell me what you think of ewewrbbme— tell me what you think of everything we're discussing. bmebb—rweerl everything we're discussing.| email—tweet me everything we're discussing.- email_tweet me at. email gb views or tweet me at. gb email gb views or tweet me at. be newe— email gb views or tweet me at. be wewe. br— email gb views or tweet me at. be wewe. rr web— email gb views or tweet me at. gb news. if you just joined me. webeeme— gb news. if you just joined me. webeeme em— gb news. if you just joined me. welcome on board.— gb news. if you just joined me. welcome on board. it's 3:08 emem.— welcome on board. it's 3:08 o'clock. this— welcome on board. it's 3:08 o'clock. this is— welcome on board. it's 3:08 o'clock. this is gb news. i'm were— o'clock. this is gb news. i'm were abbe.— o'clock. this is gb news. i'm nana akua. now— o'clock. this is gb news. i'm nana akua. now the labour beeber— nana akua. now the labour leade. sbr— nana akua. now the labour leader, sir keir— nana akua. now the labour leader, sir keir starmer, is rbbmbbme— leader, sir keir starmer, is thinking about— leader, sir keir starmer, is thinking about allowing millions of thinking about allowing millions er bu— thinking about allowing millions of eu citizens— thinking about allowing millions of eu citizens as— thinking about allowing millions of eu citizens as well as 16 and 17 of eu citizens as well as 16 and b weer— of eu citizens as well as 16 and b weer ebbe— of eu citizens as well as 16 and b weer ebbe re— of eu citizens as well as 16 and 17 year olds, to vote— of eu citizens as well as 16 and 17 year olds, to vote in elections— 17 year olds, to vote in elections if— 17 year olds, to vote in elections if the labour win. now rme— elections if the labour win. now we ee— elections if the labour win. now this comes as reports have come in this comes as reports have come bm me— this comes as reports have come bm rbe beer— this comes as reports have come in over the last week as the bebewr— in over the last week as the bebewr berry— in over the last week as the labour party were thinking of ebebrbmb— labour party were thinking of adopting proportional representation, which many conservatives _ representation, which many conservatives fear could put rbem — conservatives fear could put rbem eer— conservatives fear could put rbem ewr er— conservatives fear could put them out of power for an erembw— them out of power for an erembw .— them out of power for an eternity . king- them out of power for an eternity . king of the pollsters, eternity. king of the pollsters, wereeeer— eternity. king of the pollsters, professor sir— eternity. king of the pollsters, professor sir john— eternity. king of the pollsters, professor sir john curtice says mer— professor sir john curtice says we mbereme— professor sir john curtice says that migrants and young people are more likely— that migrants and young people are more likely to— that migrants and young people are more likely to identify as berr— are more likely to identify as berr wbme— are more likely to identify as left wing labour— are more likely to identify as left wing labour supporters. so is left wing labour supporters. so be sbr— left wing labour supporters. so be sbr beb— left wing labour supporters. so is sir keir starmer intentionally trying to gain additional— intentionally trying to gain additional votes? well, before we eer— additional votes? well, before we be erweb— additional votes? well, before we get stuck into—

additional votes? well, before we get stuck into that, let's beve— we get stuck into that, let's bewe e— we get stuck into that, let's bewe e emer— we get stuck into that, let's have a chat with— we get stuck into that, let's have a chat with gb deputy have a chat with gb news deputy bebbrbeeb— have a chat with gb news deputy political editor— have a chat with gb news deputy political editor tom _ have a chat with gb news deputy political editor tom harwood. tomb— political editor tom harwood. rem-re— political editor tom harwood. rem-re me— political editor tom harwood. tom,-to me about- political editor tom harwood. tom, to me about this. so tom, talk to me about this. so 16 tom, talk to me about this. so be re— tom, talk to me about this. so be re b— tom, talk to me about this. so be re bb weer— tom, talk to me about this. so 16 to 17 year olds_ tom, talk to me about this. so 16 to 17 year olds being allowed to 16 to 17 year olds being allowed re were,— 16 to 17 year olds being allowed re were, meme— 16 to 17 year olds being allowed to vote, right? talk— 16 to 17 year olds being allowed to vote, right? talk to me . why to vote, right? talk to me. why are to vote, right? talk to me. why mew— to vote, right? talk to me. why are they heading— to vote, right? talk to me. why are they heading that way? reebbe— are they heading that way? people think— are they heading that way? people think they're to people think they're trying to rig-election. _ people think they're trying to rig election. fibrin rig the election. well, this is already case devolved already the case for devolved administration elections in scotland and in wales. wales only very recently in the last couple of years and in scotland since 2016. the franchise was lowered first for that 2014 scottish separation partition independence referendum. however you want to describe it and then it went forward from that for that devolved administration. the curious thing , however, the curious thing, however, about this national push to have this in westminster elections is that for people aged 16 and 17, in just about every other area of life, they've been losing rights rather than gaining rights. as of february this yean rights. as of february this year, it has become illegal for anyone under the age of 18 to get married. that didn't used to be the case. similarly, people now have to stay in education or

training up until the age of 18, when in decades past, many people left school at the age of 16. in fact, the way that our society seems to be moving is that 18 or even older are becoming the sort of bar for gaining rights and responsible parties. we've even had discussions about raising the smoking age to 21 to some people would might suggest the mid 30s and the idea that a driving licence wouldn't be as as proper or as special as today until the age of 25. we've heard all of these discussions recently, and yet the one issue where it seems to be pushing other to be pushing in the other direction people is direction from some people is for voting age and that does for the voting age and that does raise questions in terms of raise some questions in terms of what is the real motivation here if 16 and 17 year olds are being treated more and more like children in every other aspect of life, apart from this one, what's the motivation? and that's got some people asking some questions about whether or not this is actually to do with trying to secure elections. we also wanted proposals also wanted to proposals migrants who live here

permanently uk and pay permanently in the uk and pay tax also be able to vote tax will also be able to vote again. what is the what are beebbe— again. what is the what are beebbe eewbmb— age " what is the what are people saying about rsgs s what is the what are people saying about about sgs s what is the what are people saying about about the beer— people saying about about the beer mer— people saying about about the fact that keir— people saying about about the fact that keir starmer is beebbmb— fact that keir starmer is beebbmg re— fact that keir starmer is looking to include that? v/rzsnsr looking to include that? yes. againr— looking to include that? yes. agebm rme— looking to include that? yes. rmem. rbbe be— looking to include that? yes. again, this is the— looking to include that? yes. again, this is the case- looking to include that? yes. again, this is the case in scottish parliamentary elections. it's the in elections. it's also the case in council curiously but council elections. curiously but currently in general elections, only british citizens can vote. now there is a group of people , now there is a group of people, around 3.4 million people in this country who are eu citizens with so—called settled status. but for whatever reason have not decided to become british citizens , have not gone through citizens, have not gone through the citizenship test as they're free to do able to do if they so choose. but those who have chosen not to do that. the proposal is that they would get a vote in in elections. now, it must be said that irish citizens already get a vote in in general elections. now, for that's particular historical reasons , particular historical reasons, but it would be a big step to allow these extra 3.4 million people to vote very few other countries around the world are

open. countries around the world are open . the voting system to open. the voting system to people who aren't citizens. the united states, for example, you have to become a naturalised citizen in order to gain the franchise , as it would be a big franchise, as it would be a big seismic step. and there are some people who suggest that this would be advantageous to parties of the left, particularly in the south—east of england, where there are more eu migrants there are many more eu migrants . interesting. thank you very mweb. — . interesting. thank you very mweb. rem — interesting. thank you very much. tom harwood good to talk to much. tom harwood good to talk re web.— much. tom harwood good to talk re web-bem— much. tom harwood good to talk to you. tom harwood . he's much. tom harwood good to talk to ydeputy tom harwood . he's much. tom harwood good to talk to ydeputy politicaliarwood . he's much. tom harwood good to talk to ydeputy political editord . he's much. tom harwood good to talk to ydeputy political editor. . he's much. tom harwood good to talk to ydeputy political editor. so,a's our deputy political editor. so, webb— our deputy political editor. so, webb bere— our deputy political editor. so, well, let's see— our deputy political editor. so, well, let's see what my panel mewe— well, let's see what my panel mewe er— well, let's see what my panel make of that. _ well, let's see what my panel make of that. but— well, let's see what my panel make of that. but joining me for this make of that. but joining me for we bew— make of that. but joining me for we bewr bebmb— make of that. but joining me for this hour going head head in this hour going head to head in a this hour going head to head in e-er— this hour going head to head in e-er mbmbe— this hour going head to head ini a-of minds,-party a clash of minds, heritage party beeber— a clash of minds, heritage party leader-kurten_ a clash of minds, heritage party leader-kurten and- a clash of minds, heritage party leader kurten and also leader david kurten and also bebbrbeeb— leader david kurten and also political commentator matthew srebbem— political commentator matthew stadlen. matthew, going to stadlen. matthew, i'm going to em— stadlen. matthew, i'm going to em wbrb— stadlen. matthew, i'm going to start with-with— stadlen. matthew, i'm going to start with with regard to start with you with regard to me— start with you with regard to we rbem. — start with you with regard to we men. a— start with you with regard to this then. a lot— start with you with regard to this then. a lot of people are eewbme— this then. a lot of people are eewbmg mer— this then. a lot of people are saying that this— this then. a lot of people are saying that this is motivated by the saying that this is motivated by rbe—bmereeeel saying that this is motivated by the—increase its| the labour party to increase its the labour party to increase its me beebbe— the labour party to increase its me beebbe wbe— the labour party to increase its the people who vote who are brew—mem,- likely to vote for them, therefore,— likely to vote for them, therefore, in- likely to vote for them, therefore, in way kind of rig therefore, in a way kind of rig me— therefore, in a way kind of rig me were. — therefore, in a way kind of rig me were. se— therefore, in a way kind of rig the vote. so first— therefore, in a way kind of rig the vote. so first of- therefore, in a way kind of rig the vote. �*" the vote. so first of all, i think it's important to say that this isn't yet labour party policy, but it's a plan. it's in their thinking. _ policy, but it's a plan. it's in their thinking. they're thinking about want to their thinking. they're thinking about-want to see - their thinking. they're thinking about-want to see a- their thinking. they're thinkingl

about-want to see a labour about it. i want to see a labour eewemmem— about it. i want to see a labour government, broadly— e i want to see a labour government, broadly speaking. i mbmb— government, broadly speaking. i rbbmb-rbeee— government, broadly speaking. i think these proposals government, broadly speaking. i thirwrong these proposals government, broadly speaking. i thirwrong . these proposals government, broadly speaking. i thirwrong . erg ese proposals government, broadly speaking. i thirwrong . erg i;e proposals government, broadly speaking. i thirwrong . erg i think:)osals government, broadly speaking. i thirwrong . erg i think they're are wrong. erg i think they're wrere— are wrong. erg i think they're wrong because— are wrong. erg i think they're wrong because if— are wrong. erg i think they're wrong because if you can't drink emb— wrong because if you can't drink wmbb web-re— wrong because if you can't drink wmbb web-elb— wrong because if you can't drink until you're .if you - wrong because if you can't drink until you're if you can't do until you're 18, if you can't do werw— until you're 18, if you can't do werw bmberrem— until you're 18, if you can't do very important things until wewre— very important things until wee e,— very important things until wee 18, ee— very important things until you're18, as tom said now you eem-r— you're18, as tom said now you eem-r-merrbeb— you're18, as tom said now you can't married under any can't get married under any circumstances— can't get married under any circumstances until 18 circumstances until you're 18 weere— circumstances until you're 18 weere-ebewbb- circumstances until you're 18 years-should you. circumstances until you're 18 years should you be years old. why should you be ebbe— years old. why should you be ebbe-eew— years old. why should you be able-say over- years old. why should you be able - say over the l able to have a say over the ferme— able to have a say over the rwrwre er— able to have a say over the future of our— able to have a say over the future of our country? why ebewbb —re - future of our country? whyi should _to have future of our country? why. should _to have a future of our country? why- should _to have a say should you be able to have a say beebebem— should you be able to have a say over decision making that emeere— over decision making that emeere ee— over decision making that affects so many of us around the eewmrwe— affects so many of us around the eewmrwe se— affects so many of us around the country? so that's— affects so many of us around the country? so that's the first rbbme. — country? so that's the first rbbme. r— country? so that's the first thing. i mean,— country? so that's the first thing. i mean, there's been bbemw— thing. i mean, there's been bbemrw er— thing. i mean, there's been plenty of research to suggest it wewbb— plenty of research to suggest it wewbb-eeeb— plenty of research to suggest it wewbb-eeeb-rr- plenty of research to suggest it would good it didn't would be a good thing. it didn't eeem-mweb— would be a good thing. it didn't seem _much harm- would be a good thing. it didn't seem much harm in the seem to do much harm in the seerrbeb— seem to do much harm in the scottish independence election of scottish independence election er zebe. — scottish independence election er zebe. ber— scottish independence election of 2016. but personally, i'm eeebmer— of 2016. but personally, i'm eeebmer b.— of 2016. but personally, i'm against it. you— of 2016. but personally, i'm against it. you have to draw the bee—were— against it. you have to draw the line—nana the- against it. you have to draw the. line—nana the second line somewhere. nana the second beewe— line somewhere. nana the second be— line somewhere. nana the second be me— line somewhere. nana the second issue is the question of eu ebrbzeme— issue is the question of eu citizens,.we've- issue is the question of eu citizens, we've just been citizens, as we've just been beerbme— citizens, as we've just been hearingr emb— citizens, as we've just been hearing, and i'm- citizens, as we've just been hearing, and i'm against that as web. — hearing, and i'm against that as web. r— hearing, and i'm against that as web. r bee-r— hearing, and i'm against that as well. i don't think— hearing, and i'm against that as well. i don't think that- hearing, and i'm against that as well. r: e well. i don't think that you should be able to vote in a country where you are not a citizen. iaccept country where you are not a citizen. i accept the i accept mer— citizen. i accept the i accept rber rrbeb— citizen. i accept the i accept that irish citizens— rt. wrzss i accept the i accept that irish citizens are allowed to. that irish citizens are allowed be. r— that irish citizens are allowed be. r eeeebr— that irish citizens are allowed to. i accept that— that irish citizens are allowed to. i accept that exception as it to. i accept that exception as b — to. i accept that exception as b ber— to. i accept that exception as it were. but when - to. i accept that exception as it were. but when it- to. i accept that exception as it were. s e t to. i accept that exception as- it were. but when it comes to eu citizens or indeed anyone else , citizens or indeed anyone else, if you are not a citizen of this

country, i don't think you should be able to have the franchise. right. should be able to have the franchise . right. okay, so franchise. right. okay, so mere— franchise. right. okay, so were weer— franchise. right. okay, so that's your view. - ”fissrt right. okay, so that's your view. so t right. okay, so that's your view. so that's bmereerbme— that's your view. so that's interesting that you say that beee— interesting that you say that bee r— interesting that you say that because i thought that you. but the because i thought that you. but rbe-be— because i thought that you. but rbe-be were— because i thought that you. but rbe-be weme .— because i thought that you. but the-is nana , i'm- because i thought that you. but the is nana , i'm not one the thing is nana, i'm not one of the thing is nana, i'm not one er rbeee— the thing is nana, i'm not one er rbeee beebbe— the thing is nana, i'm not one of those people who lives in an eeme— of those people who lives in an echo chamber— of those people who lives in an echo chamber and— of those people who lives in an echo chamber and doesn't listen to echo chamber and doesn't listen be me— echo chamber and doesn't listen be me emer— echo chamber and doesn't listen to the other-i'm- echo chamber and doesn't listen to the other-i'm not- echo chamber and doesn't listen to the other side. i'm not one of those people who will say something just so that get something just so that i can get more followers twitter. i'm more followers on twitter. i'm someone who says what i think. and i say, i want and although, as i say, i want to a progressive government to have a progressive government identify as of centre left identify as sort of centre left when it comes to certain labour policies , if i think they're policies, if i think they're wrong, call them out. i wrong, i'll call them out. and i think the problems of think one of the problems of society at the moment is that too many people say things to appeal sometimes to appease appeal or sometimes to appease their own side. well, let's see what david thinks of that. david i actually totally agree wbrb— david i actually totally agree wbrb wew. — david i actually totally agree with you. this— david i actually totally agree with you. this is- david i actually totally agree with you. s g with you. this is surprising. for the first for the very first discussion, you know, and i'm on the other side of politics as well, know, as you well, but, you know, as you said, not official policy said, it's not official policy yet, looks like it will yet, but it looks like it will be. well, yes. and it looks like it's be. well, yes. and it looks like we going— be. well, yes. and it looks like we going be— be. well, yes. and it looks like we going relbwr— be. well, yes. and it looks like it's going to.put in- well, yes. and it looks like it's going to put in place it's going to be put in place for it's going to be put in place fer-embw— it's going to be put in place

for-only reason- it's going to be put in place for only reason the sole for the only reason the sole bwrbeee— for the only reason the sole bwrbeee er— for the only reason the sole purpose of actually gaining a lot purpose of actually gaining a be me— purpose of actually gaining a lot more votes— purpose of actually gaining a lot more votes and a lot more were— lot more votes and a lot more were ebere— lot more votes and a lot more vote share for— lot more votes and a lot more vote share for labour and their eem— vote share for labour and their eerr er— vote share for labour and their eerr er ebbbee— vote share for labour and their sort of allies in— vote share for labour and their sort of allies in the progressive- sort of allies in the progressive left, the lib dems emb— progressive left, the lib dems emb me— progressive left, the lib dems and the green— progressive left, the lib dems and the green party would also bemebr— and the green party would also bemebr brem — and the green party would also benefit from that— and the green party would also benefit from that and what they mbem— benefit from that and what they mbemlbeebbme— benefit from that and what they might-looking at— benefit from that and what they might looking at in the might be looking at in the ferme— might be looking at in the tube be— might be looking at in the future is having a permanent ceebbrbem— future is having a permanent coalition between those three berrbee— coalition between those three berrbee m— coalition between those three berrbee be me— coalition between those three parties in the snp as well. you knew.— parties in the snp as well. you knew. mer— parties in the snp as well. you know, that would— parties in the snp as well. you know, that would be awful. but you know, that would be awful. but wee brew.— know, that would be awful. but wee brew. em— know, that would be awful. but you know, on those— know, that would be awful. but you know, on those two- you know, on those two particular specific points, yeah, for the 16 and 17 year olds, they shouldn't be allowed to vote. you've got to have the line somewhere and 18 is a good place to have it because that's the age at which they become officially adults . you know, officially adults. you know, ebbbbrem— officially adults. you know, children officially- rzsr�*”rt. : you know, children officially become ebebre— children officially become ebebre e— children officially become adults a.of_ children officially become adults a of leave children officially become- adults a.of-leave home, adults a lot of them leave home, go adults a lot of them leave home, be re— adults a lot of them leave home, be re embwerebbw— adults a lot of them leave home, go to university, get— adults a lot of them leave home, go to university, get job, and go to university, get a job, and so go to university, get a job, and ee-se— go to university, get a job, and ee-se bre— go to university, get a job, and ee-se be e— go to university, get a job, and so-so it's a good- go to university, get a job, and so .so it's a good point. go to university, get a job, andi so .so it's a good point. it so on. so it's a good point. it shouldn't be lowered. i also think as well with- shouldn't be lowered. i also think as well with the - : s e tbsr: i also think as well with the question of think as well with the question er bu— think as well with the question of eu citizens,— think as well with the question of eu citizens, they shouldn't beve— of eu citizens, they shouldn't have _especially- of eu citizens, they shouldn't have especially in have the vote, especially in mebemeb— have the vote, especially in national elections, when british ebrbzeme— national elections, when british citizens don't— national elections, when british citizens don't have the vote in eu countries. _ citizens don't have the vote in eu countries. we— citizens don't have the vote in eu countries. ash; r: r: citizens don't have the vote in eu countries. r: r: eu countries. we did have the vote in local elections british before we left the eu. they were supposed before we left the eu. they were eebbeeeb re — before we left the eu. they were supposed to leave— before we left the eu. they were supposed to leave that-

before we left the eu. they were supposed to leave that in- they were supposed to leave that in place, but supposed to leave that in place, be mer— supposed to leave that in place, be we memw— supposed to leave that in place, but not many people know there was a court judgement by the berebeem— was a court judgement by the european court— was a court judgement by the european court of justice last weer— european court of justice last weer wbere— european court of justice last year where the _ european court of justice last year where the french government and year where the french government emb me— year where the french government and the british— year where the french government and the british citizen had a eeerr— and the british citizen had a court case because they said the brbrbeb— court case because they said the british citizen _ court case because they said the british citizen couldn't vote in a british citizen couldn't vote in e memb— british citizen couldn't vote in a french local— british citizen couldn't vote in a french local election and the ecj rebeb— a french local election and the ecj ruled that,— a french local election and the ecj ruled that, yeah, no british ebrbzeme— ecj ruled that, yeah, no british ebrbzeme eme— ecj ruled that, yeah, no british citizens can vote— ecj ruled that, yeah, no british citizens can vote in european beeeb— citizens can vote in european local elections. _ citizens can vote in european local elections. so. so this is something that could end up in a manifesto. so we're putting it in a manifesto. it means that they need to really have a referendum. but don't forget, if they do if they wanted to they do that, if they wanted to do like that, which do something like that, which would whole would affect this whole structure, whole voting structure, the whole voting structure, the whole voting structure, that structure, it is something that they a referendum they should have a referendum on and not something a manifesto and not something in a manifesto that can then do. i think that they can then do. i think that's quite that's— that they can then do. i think that's quite that's quite- that's quite that's quite a bereeeebwe— that's quite that's quite a persuasive argument, although you persuasive argument, although wee-meke— persuasive argument, although you make argument you could make an argument for bewbme— you could make an argument fori bewbme—eeme having a referendum on all sorts of having a referendum on all sorts er-ber-e— having a referendum on all sorts er-ber-e mer. — having a referendum on all sorts of-let's not. but- having a referendum on all sorts of let's not. of things. let's not. but that's specifically will change the whole vote for things. whole way we vote for things. you argue it's a form you could argue that it's a form of constitutional change. don't forget, jeremy of constitutional change. don't forget,-jeremy corbyn'si forget, under jeremy corbyn's beeberebbb— forget, under jeremy corbyn's leadership-the— forget, under jeremy corbyn's leadership the party leadership of the labour party emb— leadership of the labour party embleerrebmbw— leadership of the labour party and certainly support and i certainly didn't support bebeer— and i certainly didn't support labour-corbyn's- labour under corbyn's leadership. - labour under corbyn's leadership. their leadership. this was in their manifesto least

manifesto or part of it at least was in their manifesto that 16 and year olds would be given and 17 year olds would be given the vote no, that that's why so many young seemed to many young people seemed to cleave jeremy corbyn. you many young people seemed to cleav

any more swayed by what'hey it really had nothing to do with any more swayed by what their were more swayed by what their parents to that. and parents think as to that. and i don't that they're don't think that they're equipped like equipped to make decisions like that. that people will that. i know that people will say, oh, well, you know, we're old enough to but at that age, for me, at 16 or 17, i probably would have done what my parents would have done what my parents would and that's my would have done. and that's my worry. why you at worry. why would you start at 18? worry. why would you start at bee-beve— worry. why would you start at. 18? - have - somewhere, 18? you have to start somewhere, bee-r— 18? you have to start somewhere, bem-r-weebb— 18? you have to start somewhere, bem-r-weebb wee- 18? you have to start somewhere, don't would you put it don't you? why would you put it at don't you? why would you put it er bee— don't you? why would you put it er bee wbw— don't you? why would you put it at 18? why would _ don't you? why would you put it at 18? why would you not raise it at 18? why would you not raise b be — at 18? why would you not raise b re 20 — at 18? why would you not raise b re 20 er— at 18? why would you not raise b re 20 er zo— at 18? why would you not raise it to 20 or 201— at 18? why would you not raise it to 20 or 201or_ at 18? why would you not raise it to 20 or 20 1 or 20 at 18? why would you not raise itto200r201or202or at 18? why would you not raise it to 20 or 20 1 or 20 2 or 30? it it to 20 or 20 1 or 20 2 or 30? rr-be— it to 20 or 20 1 or 20 2 or 30? rr-be 2b.— it to 20 or 20 1 or 20 2 or 30? it- be 21, didn't- it to 20 or 20 1 or 20 2 or 30? it-be 21, didn't it? - it used to be 21, didn't it? thenit it used to be 21, didn't it? then it was lowered to 18. but i mbmb— then it was lowered to 18. but i mm were— then it was lowered to 18. but i think that's where we need to stop because they're children stop it because they're children up to 18. how do you go? stop it because they're children up tgo 8. how do you go? stop it because they're children up tgo to how do you go? stop it because they're children up tgo to 16 how do you go? stop it because they're children up tgo to 16 andv do you go? stop it because they're children up tgo to 16 and then do you go? stop it because they're children up tgo to 16 and then do you go’ you go to 16 and then do you go to 14 and then do you go to 11? you go to 16 and then do you go to 1bknow, then do you go to 11? you go to 16 and then do you go to 1bknow, it's do you go to 11? you go to 16 and then do you go to 1bknow, it's neverru go to 11? you go to 16 and then do you go to 1bknow, it's never ending, 11? you know, it's never ending, isn't it? and especially with the sort of push you know, the sort of push for, you know, children's rights which is going on. that's other on. oh, no, that's a whole other we we to accept we have to we have to accept this very quickly. now, do this very quickly. now, we do have to accept that there will be lots lots lots of 16 be lots and lots and lots of 16 and 17 year olds who are much more interested politics than more interested in politics than lots year lots and lots of 18 and 19 year olds. should olds. but i think they should webb— olds. but i think they should webr emb— olds. but i think they should wait until they're _ : but i think they should wait until they're 18. you're wbrb— wait until they're 18. you're wbrb me— wait until they're 18. you're wbrb rm— wait until they're 18. you're with me. i'm akua. this with me. i'm nana akua. this is gb with me. i'm nana akua. this is bb—eml gb news on tv online and on bbebreb— gb news on tv online and on bbebreb rebbe. — gb news on tv online and on digital radio. what are your rbeeemee— digital radio. what are your thoughts? get— digital radio. what are your thoughts? get touch. still, thoughts? get in touch. still,

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ewe—bu— starmers labour party is set to give—eu citizens. starmers labour party is set toi give—eu citizens and give millions of eu citizens and 16 give millions of eu citizens and be-weer— give millions of eu citizens and be-weer ebbe— give millions of eu citizens and 16 _year olds the - give millions of eu citizens and 16 year olds the right to 16 and 17 year olds the right to were— 16 and 17 year olds the right to were-bew— 16 and 17 year olds the right to were-berrw-rbe- 16 and 17 year olds the right to vote party the next vote if his party wins the next eemereb— vote if his party wins the next general election.— vote if his party wins the next general election. let's see what wee— general election. let's see what wee-we-eewbme— general election. let's see what wee-we-eewbme .— general election. let's see what you've saying , wayne says. you've been saying, wayne says. if you've been saying, wayne says. rr-wee— you've been saying, wayne says. rr-wee eme— you've been saying, wayne says. rr-wee were— you've been saying, wayne says. if-you can vote at- you've been saying, wayne says. if you can vote at 16, if he if you can vote at 16, weebb— if he if you can vote at 16, weebb rme— if he if you can vote at 16, would this mean that you can be bebb— would this mean that you can be bebb rebbw— would this mean that you can be held fully accountable any held fully accountable for any crimes committed this age crimes committed at this age bmereeb— crimes committed at this age bmereeb er— crimes committed at this age instead of having sentences rebeeeb— instead of having sentences reduced because being or reduced because of being 16 or 17 reduced because of being 16 or bb-rber— reduced because of being 16 or bb-rber be— reduced because of being 16 or bb-rber be e- reduced because of being 16 or 17-that is a very- 17 years old, that is a very beeb— 17 years old, that is a very beeb bebm. — 17 years old, that is a very good point. david says how can a 16-understand- good point. david says how can a 16 understand politics 16 year old understand politics wber— 16 year old understand politics wbem-bewem-r— 16 year old understand politics when-haven't had- 16 year old understand politics when haven't had the mature when they haven't had the mature weere— when they haven't had the mature years beforehand— years beforehand to make an bmermeb— years beforehand to make an informed judgement ? james says, informed judgement? james says, i informed judgement? james says, r-rbe— informed judgement? james says, r-rbe bem— informed judgement? james says, r-rbe rbem re— informed judgement? james says, i-the right to vote- informed judgement? james says, i the right to vote is far i think the right to vote is far ree— i think the right to vote is far bee—a— i think the right to vote is far bee—a bem- i think the right to vote is far too _a right to - i think the right to vote is fari too _a right to treat too important. a right to treat bbke— too important. a right to treat bbke-eer— too important. a right to treat like-out sweets- too important. a right to treat like-out sweets in- too important. a right to treat like out sweets in the like giving out sweets in the mere— like giving out sweets in the mere er— like giving out sweets in the hope of gathering support. in my ebbmbem— hope of gathering support. in my ebbmbemleeebr— hope of gathering support. in my opinion, ought introduce opinion, we ought to introduce a brbrbeb— opinion, we ought to introduce a british constitution qualification be qualification ian that must be beeeeb—rbe- passed before having the brbwbbeee— passed before having the privilege david passed before having the- privilege-david makes privilege to vote. david makes the privilege to vote. david makes rbe-rber— privilege to vote. david makes rbe-rber br— privilege to vote. david makes the _that if you - privilege to vote. david makes the that if you are not the point that if you are not eemebbereb— the point that if you are not considered enough to buy considered mature enough to buy a considered mature enough to buy e beeker— considered mature enough to buy e beeker-e— considered mature enough to buy e beeker-e-er- considered mature enough to buy a pocket-a-of glue,- a pocket knife, a tube of glue, a pocket knife, a tube of glue, e-beer— a pocket knife, a tube of glue, e-beer er— a pocket knife, a tube of glue, a-beer or a packet- a pocket knife, a tube of glue, a beer or a packet of a pint of beer or a packet of ebeererree — a pint of beer or a packet of cigarettes, how— a pint of beer or a packet of cigarettes, how on earth could you— cigarettes, how on earth could wee—merere- cigarettes, how on earth could. you—mature enough you be considered mature enough to you be considered mature enough re were— you be considered mature enough to vote-national— you be considered mature enough to vote national government to vote for national government 7 to vote for national government e—wber- to vote for national government e—wber eml ? is labour serious? what an even more tragic— ? is labour serious? what an even more tragic future is it in erere— even more tragic future is it in erere rer— even more tragic future is it in erere rer ee— even more tragic future is it in store for us when— even more tragic future is it in store for us when the totally bmeemberem— store for us when the totally incompetent tories disappear mem— incompetent tories disappear brem wew— incompetent tories disappear from view due— incompetent tories disappear from view due to their self—inflicted imply ? ian god,

self—inflicted imply? ian god, mere— self—inflicted imply? ian god, rber-e beeb— self—inflicted imply? ian god, rber-e beeb .— self—inflicted imply? ian god, that's good . that's so true as that's good. that's so true as web.— that's good. that's so true as web. memb— that's good. that's so true as well. thank you— that's good. that's so true as well. thank you for that. well beme. — well. thank you for that. well beme. webb— well. thank you for that. well done. well, let's— well. thank you for that. well done. well, let's let's move on to done. well, let's let's move on be me— done. well, let's let's move on be me merr— done. well, let's let's move on to the next subject. we're going beeb— to the next subject. we're going beeb-rr-e— to the next subject. we're going head-it's been- to the next subject. we're going head - it's been 80 - to the next subject. we're going head it's been 80 years head to head. it's been 80 years emee— head to head. it's been 80 years me— head to head. it's been 80 years rbe eb— head to head. it's been 80 years since the 61 seven— head to head. it's been 80 years since the 61 seven squadron was reekeb— since the 61 seven squadron was reekeb wbrb— since the 61 seven squadron was tasked with destroying german beme— tasked with destroying german beme bm— tasked with destroying german beme be me— tasked with destroying german dams in the daring missions berbme— dams in the daring missions berbme me— dams in the daring missions during the second world war. but now during the second world war. but ewwee—b rbel now raf scampton, where the bembeerere— now raf scampton, where the dambusters squadron formed, dambusters squadron was formed, is dambusters squadron was formed, beire— dambusters squadron was formed, beire be— dambusters squadron was formed, is-to be converted— dambusters squadron was formed, is to be converted into is set to be converted into a member— is set to be converted into a mberem-wew- is set to be converted into a. migrant-now-plans is set to be converted into a- migrant-now-plans have migrant camp. now the plans have errreereb— migrant camp. now the plans have attracted criticism— attracted criticism from bbererbem— attracted criticism from historian james holland and eemebbem— historian james holland and comedian al— historian james holland and comedian al murray leading the eembebem— comedian al murray leading the eembebem re— comedian al murray leading the eembebem re ereb— comedian al murray leading the campaign to stop it from going ebeeb— campaign to stop it from going ebeeb .— campaign to stop it from going ebeeb . mere— campaign to stop it from going ahead . there are— campaign to stop it from going ahead . there are about a group ahead. there are about a group of ahead. there are about a group er bo— ahead. there are about a group of 40 historians— ahead. there are about a group of 40 historians who signed an ebee— of 40 historians who signed an ebem berrer— of 40 historians who signed an ebem berrer re— of 40 historians who signed an open letter to the— of 40 historians who signed an open letter to the home seerererw— open letter to the home secretary voicing their opinion. so secretary voicing their opinion. ee-we— secretary voicing their opinion. ee-we er— secretary voicing their opinion. so we at destroying so are we at risk of destroying our—facilitate . our own history to facilitate mee— our own history to facilitate amee serwer— our own history to facilitate anas sarwar guns? well, let's get— anas sarwar guns? well, let's beer-bm— anas sarwar guns? well, let's eer-bm wbrb— anas sarwar guns? well, let's get in with leader of get stuck in with leader of berbreee— get stuck in with leader of heritage - dave - get stuck in with leader of heritage dave kirton and heritage party dave kirton and ebee— heritage party dave kirton and ebee bebbrbeeb— heritage party dave kirton and also political commentator werrbew— also political commentator matthew stadler. we're going beeb— matthew stadler. we're going beeblbeeb— matthew stadler. we're going head head david, i'll start head to head david, i'll start wbrb— head to head david, i'll start wbrb wee.— head to head david, i'll start wbrb wee. bre— head to head david, i'll start with you. it's appalling, isn't bre — with you. it's appalling, isn't be -e— with you. it's appalling, isn't it? _a terrible,- with you. it's appalling, isn'ti it? _a terrible, terrible it? this is a terrible, terrible thing. raf scampton is part of our thing. raf scampton is part of bbererw— thing. raf scampton is part of our history-should- g raf scampton is part of our history should not be our history and it should not be reberbeeeb— our history and it should not be reberbeeeble— our history and it should not be repurposed a migrant camp or repurposed for a migrant camp or an repurposed for a migrant camp or em eewbem — repurposed for a migrant camp or an asylum seekers— repurposed for a migrant camp or an asylum seekers camp. $2000 an asylum seekers camp. for 2000 of an asylum seekers camp. for 2000 er mem.— an asylum seekers camp. for 2000 er rbem. meww— an asylum seekers camp. for 2000 of them, many of them military aged men crossing the channel

because the government and the home office haven't got control of our borders, which they promised they would do. there have been promising- there have been promising they would do have been promising they would be rer— have been promising they would be be me— have been promising they would do for the last— have been promising they would do for the last 13— have been promising they would do for the last 13 years. so were — do for the last 13 years. so were wee — do for the last 13 years. so that's, you know, two issues that's, you know, the two issues beb— that's, you know, the two issues rbeb reeerber. — that's, you know, the two issues tied together. _is- tied together. but this is so were— tied together. but this is so were em— tied together. but this is so wrong on so many levels. ' r: wrong on so many levels. and i do understand— wrong on so many levels. and i do understand that some of the people that james holland, the historian, forward, the case historian, put forward, the case there is an alternative plan for raf scampton to turn it into a centre of aerospace excellence to build up industry there, to provide local jobs . that would provide local jobs. that would be a provide local jobs. that would be e rer— provide local jobs. that would be a far better— provide local jobs. that would be a far better use— provide local jobs. that would be a far better use of- r:r:s; t that would be a far better use of the base to, be a far better use of the base re. wee— be a far better use of the base re. wee brew— be afar better use of the base re. wee kmew .— be a far better use of the base to, you know , to— be a far better use of the base to, you know , to keep the to, you know, to keep the bbeberw— to, you know, to keep the bbererw. re — to, you know, to keep the history, to keep the heritage, to history, to keep the heritage, re brewbbe— history, to keep the heritage, to provide jobs— history, to keep the heritage, to provide jobs ,_ history, to keep the heritage, to provide jobs , but not to turn to provide jobs, but not to turn it to provide jobs, but not to turn br bme— to provide jobs, but not to turn b we .— to provide jobs, but not to turn b we . wee— to provide jobs, but not to turn it into , you know,— to provide jobs, but not to turn it into , you know, basically , it into, you know, basically, vou— it into, you know, basically, wee brew.— it into, you know, basically, wee mew. e— it into, you know, basically, you know, a centre for people wbe— you know, a centre for people who shouldn't— you know, a centre for people who shouldn't be— you know, a centre for people who shouldn't be in the country emwwew— who shouldn't be in the country emwwew er— who shouldn't be in the country anyway or should— who shouldn't be in the country anyway or should be processed wew— anyway or should be processed wew .— anyway or should be processed werw . wew— anyway or should be processed werw . werw meeb— anyway or should be processed very , very much more quickly very, very much more quickly mem— very, very much more quickly mew mew— very, very much more quickly mem rbew ee— very, very much more quickly than they are being processed at the than they are being processed at me memem — than they are being processed at the moment. it's— than they are being processed at the moment. . l the moment. it's almost like an inqu the moment. it's almost like an insult really, in a way insult really, i think in a way that using bases. that they're using raf bases. what think? martin what do you think? martin yeah, i what do you think? martin yeah, r—bmeeb.- i don't think it's an insult. i meem-r— i don't think it's an insult. i meem-r be.— i don't think it's an insult. i meem-r be. — i don't think it's an insult. i mean,-i do. i- i don't think it's an insult. i mean,-i do. i think. i don't think it's an insult. i mean, i do. e mean, my i do. i think it is. i know you do. but you're mean, my i do. e r:r:::r but you're asking know you do. but you're asking me mw—

know you do. but you're asking me mw beeerbem.— know you do. but you're asking me my question. so— r:r:sr but you're asking me my question. so let me r:r:::r but you're asking me my question. so let me give you— me my question. so let me give wee—bm— me my question. so let me give wee—rm me- me my question. so let me give wee—rm rbe emel me my question. so let me give. you—i'm the one that you my answer. i'm the one that does thing on. my answer to does this thing on. my answer to that does this thing on. my answer to rberlrber— does this thing on. my answer to rberlrber mw— does this thing on. my answer to that-that my grandfather- : g my answer to that that my grandfather on that is that my grandfather on my that is that my grandfather on mw rerber-e— that is that my grandfather on mw rerber-e-e- that is that my grandfather on my father's a jewish my father's side was a jewish rebeeee— my father's side was a jewishi refugeer —bere refugee, so i wouldn't be here wbrbeer—rbbei without the generosity of this eeemrw. — without the generosity of this eeemrw. i r — without the generosity of this country. .i think- without the generosity of this country. i think really country. so i think it is really bmberrem— country. so i think it is really bmberrem-we— country. so i think it is really important we open to as important that we are open to as meww— important that we are open to as many vulnerable— important that we are open to as many vulnerable people as we can be. many vulnerable people as we can be—beebbe- many vulnerable people as we can be—beebbe er- many vulnerable people as we can be—beebbe er en be. david talks of people of a mbbbrerw— be. david talks of people of a mbbbrerw-rber— be. david talks of people of a military-that in- be. david talks of people of a military that in my view, is military age that in my view, is bmbemmererw— military age that in my view, is inflammatory and— military age that in my view, is inflammatory and provocative. veere— inflammatory and provocative. bee-re-eeeeeer- inflammatory and provocative. you're suggest that you're trying to suggest that rbeee— you're trying to suggest that weee-ere— you're trying to suggest that these are somehow these people are somehow bemeereee— these people are somehow dangerous. of dangerous. some of them, some of mem — dangerous. some of them, some of mem ee— dangerous. some of them, some of them are dangerous.— dangerous. some of them, some of them are dangerous. of them them are dangerous. some of them may— them are dangerous. some of them mew-me— them are dangerous. some of them mew-me weer— them are dangerous. some of them may the vast majority may be. but the vast majority wew-r— may be. but the vast majority weer-mw- may be. but the vast majority wem-r-mwlmwl won't be. so on my on my rerber-e— won't be. so on my on my father's side,— won't be. so on my on my father's side, from a father's side, i come from a referee— father's side, i come from a refugee background on my memer-e— refugee background on my merber-e-mw- refugee background on my mother's my grandfather mother's side, my grandfather me— mother's side, my grandfather won the military— mother's side, my grandfather won the military cross . and why won the military cross. and why did won the military cross. and why bbblwbm— won the military cross. and why bbblwbm me— won the military cross. and why did win the military cross? did he win the military cross? beeeee— did he win the military cross? because .went_ did he win the military cross? because-went up- did he win the military cross? because went up to the german because he went up to the german beee— because he went up to the german bbmee—brbrbeb- lines preparing the british rereee— lines preparing the british rereee me— lines preparing the british forces, the allied forces for b—bew— forces, the allied forces for b—bew-se- forces, the allied forces for b—bew-se be- forces, the allied forces for d—day. so he fought for d—day. okay. so he fought for eer- amb— d—day. okay. so he fought for eer- amb ee- d—day. okay. so he fought for our-. and one of- d—day. okay. so he fought for our . and one of the our freedom. and one of the mbmbe— our freedom. and one of the rbbmee mer— our freedom. and one of the things that he— our freedom. and one of the things that he was fighting for and things that he was fighting for emb mer— things that he was fighting for emb web-er— things that he was fighting for and that-of our— things that he was fighting for and that of our brave and that all of our brave forefathers _ and that all of our brave forefathers and women as well bembre— forefathers and women as well were fighting for— forefathers and women as well were fighting for was freedom, weelbeeemew— were fighting for was freedom, weelbeeemew .— were fighting for was freedom, was-decency , was- were fighting for was freedom, was decency , was to beat was for decency, was to beat beek— was for decency, was to beat beek rbe — was for decency, was to beat back the threat— was for decency, was to beat back the threat .— was for decency, was to beat back the threat . and i don't back the threat. and i don't wem— back the threat. and i don't wem rme— back the threat. and i don't want this toxic— back the threat. and i don't want this toxic this toxic bemeeeee— want this toxic this toxic language, this toxic debate when beebbme— language, this toxic debate when we're dealing with— language, this toxic debate when we're dealing with people who are we're dealing with people who rbeebme— we're dealing with people who are fleeing the— we're dealing with people who are fleeing the taliban , fleeing

are fleeing the taliban, fleeing swee— are fleeing the taliban, fleeing syriar me— are fleeing the taliban, fleeing syria, the syrian— are fleeing the taliban, fleeing syria, the syrian dictatorship. r-we— syria, the syrian dictatorship. r-we beer— syria, the syrian dictatorship. i've been i've— syria, the syrian dictatorship. i've been i've been to syria in zooe. — i've been i've been to syria in zooe. r-we— i've been i've been to syria in 2006. i've experienced i'm eerrw— 2006. i've experienced i'm sorryr r-we— 2006. i've experienced i'm sorryr be re— 2006. i've experienced i'm sorry, i've i've i've i've experienced- sorry, i've i've i've i've experienced sorry from france . experienced sorry from france. beeb— experienced sorry from france. beeb. we— experienced sorry from france. beeb. we knew— experienced sorry from france. yeah, we know france. "r; n; yeah, we know france. they're eemme— yeah, we know france. they're coming from france. just as a reminder, coming from france. just as a rerbmerb mew— coming from france. just as a reminder, they are— rt.r:::rs�* g t just as a reminder, they are coming from rremee— reminder, they are coming from rremee emb— reminder, they are coming from france and they— reminder, they are coming from france and they obviously want to france and they obviously want relbere. — france and they obviously want relbere. bee— france and they obviously want to.here. you don't- france and they obviously want to here. you don't have to. to be here. you don't have to. umber— to be here. you don't have to. bmber me— to be here. you don't have to. under the .refugee- to be here. you don't have to. under the refugee convention, under the un refugee convention, eemrerw—berw- contrary to what some tory mbmberere— contrary to what some tory ministers _you,i contrary to what some tory. ministers _you, you ministers might tell you, you bew-r— ministers might tell you, you beer—bm- ministers might tell you, you bem-r—bm rbel don't have to settle in the web— don't have to settle in the first-country. - don't have to settle in the first country. that's fine. first safe country. that's fine. we— first safe country. that's fine. we beve— first safe country. that's fine. we bewe re— first safe country. that's fine. we have to take— first safe country. that's fine. we have to take we have to take our we have to take we have to take eer-bbeee— we have to take we have to take our-these people- our fair share. these people erbebmebbw— our fair share. these people originally come— our fair share. these people originally come very originally come from very bemeereee— originally come from very dangerous-r- originally come from very dangerous-, so- originally come from very dangerous , so it dangerous places, so it ebeebbm-r— dangerous places, so it shouldn't all- dangerous places, so it shouldn't all be down to the memb— shouldn't all be down to the rremeb—rbei french or the italians or the germans. .should- french or the italians or the germans. should take more. germans. we should take more. amb— germans. we should take more. amb r— germans. we should take more. amb r mbmb— germans. we should take more. and i think-need— germans. we should take more. and i think need to do and i think we need to do more as and i think we need to do more ee e eeebebw— and i think we need to do more as a society-just- as a society. this is just a mem— as a society. this is just a beer wbme— as a society. this is just a right wing story- as a society. this is just a right wing story suggest that right wing story to suggest that eemeebw— right wing story to suggest that somehow insulting our somehow we're insulting our berbbeee— somehow we're insulting our heritage-right- somehow we're insulting our heritage. right into heritage. it plays right into weer— heritage. it plays right into weer-bewbb- heritage. it plays right into your david well, you your street. david well, you knew.— your street. david well, you knew weere — your street. david well, you know, you're talking about syria . -rebbme— know, you're talking about syria . _talking about- . you're talking about afghanistan . they do have afghanistan. they do have resettlement schemes from those places. now, i don't particularly with that, particularly agree with that, but they're not the people that would raf scampton , would be going to raf scampton, the of people that will would be going to raf scampton, thlgoing of people that will would be going to raf scampton, thlgoing there: people that will would be going to raf scampton, thlgoing there: perpeople it will be going there are people who are across channel are coming across the channel illegally in boats they are illegally in boats and they are are almost entirely military

aged men coming from places like albania and so on. and they're eemme— albania and so on. and they're eembme bere— albania and so on. and they're coming here. why— albania and so on. and they're coming here. why do- ':zrrss ssr: rzsrs and they're coming here. why do you get bemebr— coming here. why do you get bemebr eeeb— coming here. why do you get benefit aged men? what are you wber— benefit aged men? what are you wberlwee— benefit aged men? what are you wberlwee saving?— benefit aged men? what are you what you saying? well, what do you saying? well, they are military age. they're men. weebb— are military age. they're men. weebb-rber- are military age. they're men. would-that are- are military age. they're men. would that are women would you say that are women berweem— would you say that are women berweemlrbew— would you say that are women between they they're between if they were, they're mer— between if they were, they're not women. they— between if they were, they're not women. they are military eeeb— not women. they are militaryi eeeb—eb not women. they are military- eeeb—eb rbem aged men. and not many of them are women . something like 18 aged men. ' r: rstrzs; something like 18 and aged men. ' r: rstrzs; so something like 18 and aged men. ' r: rstrzs; so i'm something like 18 and aged men. ' r: rstrzs; so i'm absolutely ng like 18 and aged men. ' r: rstrzs; so i'm absolutely correct 18 and aged men. ' r: rstrzs; so i'm absolutely correct to and 45. so i'm absolutely correct to say— 45. so i'm absolutely correct to eew mer— 45. so i'm absolutely correct to eew rber mew-re — 45. so i'm absolutely correct to say that they're military age. why— say that they're military age. wbw be — say that they're military age. wbw be wee — say that they're military age. why do you think— say that they're military age. why do you think why- say that they're military age. why do you think why do you think in this country, if you you know, i didn't interrupt you, do let speak you, so please do let me speak without . so the without interrupting. so the people that will be- g so the people that will be going to raf seembrem— people that will be going to raf seembrem ee— people that will be going to raf scampton are those people who are scampton are those people who eemme— scampton are those people who are coming across— scampton are those people who are coming across the channel emb— are coming across the channel emb we— are coming across the channel emb we meeb— are coming across the channel and we need-stop- are coming across the channel and we need stop that. ash; and we need to stop that. we beeb— and we need to stop that. we beeblbeeb— and we need to stop that. we meeb lerer ebe— and we need to stop that. we need-stop the boats- and we need to stop that. we need stop the boats from need to stop the boats from coming because this is a very, need to stop the boats from comibig3ecause this is a very, need to stop the boats from comibigziecausand is is a very, need to stop the boats from comibigziecausand it is a very, need to stop the boats from comibigziecausand it shouldn't very big issue and it shouldn't be happening. and of course mere-e— be happening. and of course rbere-e me— be happening. and of course there's the - issue - be happening. and of course there's the-issue withi there's the whole issue with beebbe— there's the whole issue with people trafficking and on, people trafficking and so on, emb— people trafficking and so on, emb-reebe— people trafficking and so on, and-feeds-that- and that feeds into that ereembeeb— and that feeds into thati ereembeeb—e and that feeds into that- organised_a lot of organised crime. and a lot of me— organised crime. and a lot of the are coming over. you the people are coming over. you know, potential for know, there's potential for erbmbmebbrw— know, there's potential for criminality there. there's a lot of criminality there. there's a lot er-bbeebbeerbme- criminality there. there's a lot of disappearing and going of people disappearing and going into of people disappearing and going bme erbmbmeb— of people disappearing and going into criminal gangs , county into criminal gangs, county bbmee— into criminal gangs, county bbmee emb— into criminal gangs, county lines and so— into criminal gangs, county lines and so on.— into criminal gangs, county lines and so on. this country's beer— lines and so on. this country's reer ebmbbw— lines and so on. this country's reer ebmbbw beee— lines and so on. this country's just simply does not have the ebeee— just simply does not have the ebeee re—

just simply does not have the space to house— just simply does not have the space to house these hundreds of rbeeeembe— space to house these hundreds of rbeeeembe er— space to house these hundreds of thousands of asylum seekers ewerw— thousands of asylum seekers ewerw weer. — thousands of asylum seekers ewerw weer. bre— thousands of asylum seekers every year. it's a— thousands of asylum seekers every year. it's a completely bbmerem— every year. it's a completely different situation to the ebreerbem— different situation to the situation immediately after the seeemb— situation immediately after the second world— situation immediately after the second world war. so we need to get second world war. so we need to be e— second world war. so we need to be e ebb— second world war. so we need to be e erbb er— second world war. so we need to be e erbb er eer— second world war. so we need to get a grip of our borders. we meeb— get a grip of our borders. we meeb re— get a grip of our borders. we meeb re beeb— get a grip of our borders. we need to push the— get a grip of our borders. we need to push the boats back to rremee— need to push the boats back to meme-meeb— need to push the boats back to france - need to - need to push the boats back to france - need to be - france and we need to be breeeeebme— france and we need to be processing the _ france and we need to be processing the asylum seekers far, processing the asylum seekers rer. rer— processing the asylum seekers be. be me— processing the asylum seekers far, far more quickly . far, far more quickly. that's ebe— far, far more quickly. that's the difference. no, no , no, hold the difference. no, no, no, hold on. what is your solution then? beeeee— on. what is your solution then? because we don't— rzsrs what is your solution then? because we don't want i don't wem— because we don't want i don't wem rbeee— because we don't want i don't want these faces— because we don't want i don't want these faces to be used. i mbmb— want these faces to be used. i rbbmk br— want these faces to be used. i mm b be— want these faces to be used. i think it is wrong.— want these faces to be used. i think it is wrong. they need to beb— think it is wrong. they need to find-solutions.- think it is wrong. they need to find solutions. why do think it is wrong. they need to findthink solutions. why do think it is wrong. they need to findthink they itions. why do think it is wrong. they need to findthink they should alhy do think it is wrong. they need to findthink they should be' do think it is wrong. they need to findthink they should be put? you think they should be put? webb—rber. i you think they should be put?| well,_that. i'm well, i'm asking you that. i'm eebbme— well, i'm asking you that. i'm eekbme wee— well, i'm asking you that. i'm asking you that— well, i'm asking you that. i'm asking you that because you're the asking you that because you're rbe—r- asking you that because you're. rbe—r bew-r. the one who's opposed. i don't. i the one who's opposed. i don't. r bew-r. — the one who's opposed. i don't. i don't. absolutely i don't. i'll be absolutely clear. don't clear. first of all, i don't think easy think there are any easy, easy answers. family . my answers. i've got family. my in—laws bexhill on sea in—laws living in bexhill on sea in—laws living in bexhill on sea in sussex. there is a migrant camp that is going to build up there or other people are going to be housed in a prison that at the moment an old prison at the moment me moment has asbestos. that to me seems completely unacceptable. yes they're going to try and clear it the asbestos. clear it of the asbestos. i wouldn't want to go and live there. in bexhill there. people in bexhill won't want 800 1000 people on their

want 800 or 1000 people on their doorstep with nothing to do. there'll obviously allowed there'll be obviously allowed out the camp. there are no out of the camp. there are no easy answers. what know of easy answers. what we know of raf scampton, i can't see a particular problem with it . i particular problem with it. i think this is a provocative article and a provocative argument trying to say that refugees are somehow threatening our heritage. they're not. we have of job vacancies. i have lots of job vacancies. i don't think they're saying that. what they have? a lot of job what do they have? a lot of job vacancies country. vacancies in this country. what people allowed to people should be allowed to work? sorry. is saying work? sorry. what it is saying is work? sorry. what it is saying be mer— work? sorry. what it is saying be rber-e— work? sorry. what it is saying is that-a historical- is that this is a historical beee— is that this is a historical beee emb— is that this is a historical base and for— is that this is a historical base and for it- is that this is a historical base and for it to used as a base and for it to be used as a mberem— base and for it to be used as a mberem eemb— base and for it to be used as a mberem eemb be— base and for it to be used as a migrant camp is unacceptable . migrant camp is unacceptable. but migrant camp is unacceptable. ber wbere— migrant camp is unacceptable. ber wbere be— migrant camp is unacceptable. but where do you— migrant camp is unacceptable. but where do you want them to 90? — but where do you want them to 90? bbeee— but where do you want them to go? these people,— but where do you want them to go? these people, once they're here, where would put them? here, where would you put them? i'm saying asking i'm not saying that i'm asking you them go you where you want them to go back. actually, you turn them beek. —er- back. you're absolutely at the beb— back. you're absolutely at the rbek er— back. you're absolutely at the rbek er beebbe— back. you're absolutely at the risk of people drowning. no, no, no. risk of people drowning. no, no, me.-bber-e.— risk of people drowning. no, no, no.-that's. we're- risk of people drowning. no, no, no. that's. we're not no. that's. that's. we're not remme— no. that's. that's. we're not talking you talking about. so what would you be — talking about. so what would you be _t- talking about. so what would you be —br eee- talking about. so what would you be —breereel do? explain it. spell it out to the to gb news the audience, to the gb news viewers, many whom have viewers, many of whom will have compassion. what do you do, sir? are drown the are you to prepared drown the drown people you sink drown these people so you sink the boats. so let me this the boats. so let me get this emebew.— the boats. so let me get this errebebr. se— the boats. so let me get this straight. so from _ so let me get this straight. so from saying that so let me get this straiturn so from saying that so let me get this straiturn so 1boats saying that so let me get this straiturn so 1boats back, ing that so let me get this straiturn so 1boats back, you'vet you turn the boats back, you've memeeeb— you turn the boats back, you've memeeeb-br— you turn the boats back, you've managed-it-somel managed to turn it into some eem— managed to turn it into some sort-emotional— managed to turn it into some sort emotional argument sort of emotional argument about beerb. —rber. -

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that's your interpretation of bre—rbe | it? it is, yes. because the bemeeeee— it? it is, yes. because the- language—because language that you use, because weere— language that you use, because wee-re—rbei you're being sinister about the bemeeeee— you're being sinister about the bemeeeee-bebre- you're being sinister about the language. quite simple. language. so it's quite simple. me— language. so it's quite simple. bbe-we— language. so it's quite simple. bbe-we rem— language. so it's quite simple. the _we turn the- language. so it's quite simple. the we turn the boats back the boats we turn the boats back in the boats we turn the boats back bm-bm— the boats we turn the boats back bm-bm-rerm - the boats we turn the boats back in _in-form where . in a form in a safe form where beebbe— in a form in a safe form where beebbe-bbere-e- people are safe. there's no mere-e— people are safe. there's no rbere-e me— people are safe. there's no there's no.don't- people are safe. there's no there's no don't to people are safe. there's no- there's no.don't-to kill there's no we don't want to kill eeebe— there's no we don't want to kill beebbe. ber— there's no we don't want to kill beebbe. be we— there's no we don't want to kill people, but we don't to people, but we don't want to encourage _carry. people, but we don't want to encourage carry on encourage people to carry on eemme— encourage people to carry on eembme eereee— encourage people to carry on coming across country in in coming across this country in in an coming across this country in in em eeeer wew— coming across this country in in an unsafe way through dinghies wbbeb— an unsafe way through dinghies wbbeb beebbe— an unsafe way through dinghies

which people are— an unsafe way through dinghies which people are dying. you are erreerbwebw— which people are dying. you are effectively supporting people emeeebbme— effectively supporting people emeeebbme emb— effectively supporting people smuggling and trafficking. and i mbmb— smuggling and trafficking. and i mm b— smuggling and trafficking. and i mm r em— smuggling and trafficking. and i think i am saying— smuggling and trafficking. and i think i am saying i am saying no .weere— think i am saying i am saying no . w mebbme— think i am saying i am saying no , you're making an— think i am saying i am saying no , you're making an allegation. bere— , you're making an allegation. bere rebbme— , you're making an allegation. you're telling me— , you're making an allegation. you're telling me that- , you're making an allegation. you're telling me that you're telling to something. i'm you're telling me that you're tell doing to something. i'm you're telling me that you're tell doing anything. australia,n not doing anything. australia, australia - successfully - australia very successfully remeb— australia very successfully remeb-rbe- australia very successfully turned the boats australia very successfully- turned _the boats that turned back all the boats that are turned back all the boats that eemme— turned back all the boats that eembme re— turned back all the boats that are coming to australia with a beee— are coming to australia with a bee mer— are coming to australia with a scheme that was— are coming to australia with a scheme that was safe and it was emeerbwe— scheme that was safe and it was emeerbwe . — scheme that was safe and it was effective . they— scheme that was safe and it was effective . they had— scheme that was safe and it was effective . they had a- scheme that was safe and it was effective. asr: t effective. they had a place they could send to. greece turns effective. they had a place they cou boats d to. greece turns effective. they had a place they cou boats back to. greece turns effective. they had a place they cou boats back to to. greece turns effective. they had a place they cou boats back to turkey. nowns the boats back to turkey. now there's no reason why- now there's no reason why britain eem-r— there's no reason why britain eem-r eerebw— there's no reason why britain can't safely-the- there's no reason why britain can't safely the boats can't safely turn the boats beeb— can't safely turn the boats beeblembw— can't safely turn the boats back.-only an- can't safely turn the boats back. only an ideological back. it's only an ideological ereemem— back. it's only an ideological argument that— back. it's only an ideological argument that then sort of says, oh, argument that then sort of says, on mere— argument that then sort of says, oh, that's inflammatory bemeeeee— oh, that's inflammatory language. it's- oh, that's inflammatory language. it's not need to language. it's not we need to eemreb— language. it's not we need to control-borders- language. it's not we need to control borders because control our borders because mere— control our borders because mere ebmbbw— control our borders because there simply isn't the space and control our borders because theiresourcesisn't the space and control our borders because theiresources to 't the space and control our borders because theiresources to house ;pace and control our borders because theiresources to house hundreds the resources to house hundreds of the resources to house hundreds er rbeeeembe— the resources to house hundreds of thousands of— the resources to house hundreds of thousands of military age men in of thousands of military age men be me— of thousands of military age men bm rbbe eeemrw. — of thousands of military age men in this country. and— of thousands of military age men in this country. ' r: l in this country. and people like matthew would like to carry on with the illegal people smuggling gangs. it's absolute nonsense. are dying. nonsense. and people are dying. was my nana akua is a lie is gb news online and on news on tv, online and on digital fast digital radio is fast approaching. 34 minutes after 3:00 on the way labour mps think councils should introduce ten miles per hour speed limits in residential areas. do you agree or plan bonkers? you'll

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bewe— post—brexit plans to scrap eu bewe .— post—brexit plans to scrap eu bewe . rermer— post—brexit plans to scrap eu laws . former home secretary laws. former home secretary brbrb — laws. former home secretary brbrb rereb— laws. former home secretary priti patel accused the leader of priti patel accused the leader er rebbbme— priti patel accused the leader er rebbbme re— priti patel accused the leader of failing to listen to his partw— of failing to listen to his berrw. ebbbme— of failing to listen to his party, adding the tories hadn't eeb— party, adding the tories hadn't covered itself— party, adding the tories hadn't covered itself in— party, adding the tories hadn't covered itself in glory since berbe— covered itself in glory since boris johnson's— covered itself in glory since boris johnson's leadership . the boris johnson's leadership. the emebew— boris johnson's leadership. the shadow business— boris johnson's leadership. the shadow business secretary, remembe— shadow business secretary, jonathan reynolds , has defended jonathan reynolds, has defended ebeme— jonathan reynolds, has defended were re— jonathan reynolds, has defended were re ewe— jonathan reynolds, has defended plans to give workers the right to plans to give workers the right re ewbreb— plans to give workers the right to switch off— plans to give workers the right to switch off outside of working beere — to switch off outside of working hours. labour— to switch off outside of working hours. labour wants to restrict embbewere— hours. labour wants to restrict embbewere rrem — hours. labour wants to restrict employers from contacting staff by ebeme— employers from contacting staff by bbeme er— employers from contacting staff by phone or email— employers from contacting staff by phone or email, saying werereb— by phone or email, saying workers should— by phone or email, saying workers should be able to disconnect— workers should be able to disconnect from devices in their bewmbme— disconnect from devices in their bewmbme .— disconnect from devices in their downtime . similar legislation is downtime. similar legislation is ebreebw— downtime. similar legislation is ebreebw bm— downtime. similar legislation is already in place— downtime. similar legislation is already in place in france . to already in place in france. to ki already in place in france. to br be— already in place in france. to br be breebme— already in place in france. to ki is bracing itself for beeebbbe— ki is bracing itself for possible protests as a result of the presidential— possible protests as a result of the presidential election. beme— the presidential election. verbme bee— the presidential election. voting has now closed and the bebbbe— voting has now closed and the bebbbe wbbb— voting has now closed and the public will soon _ voting has now closed and the public will soon find out wberber— public will soon find out whether or— public will soon find out whether or not president brbeeem — whether or not president erdogan, who's been in power for 20 weee— erdogan, who's been in power for 20 wee wbbb— erdogan, who's been in power for 20 years, will be— erdogan, who's been in power for 20 years, will be re—elected . 20 years, will be re—elected. amb— 20 years, will be re—elected. amb ebmber— 20 years, will be re—elected. and opinion polls— 20 years, will be re—elected. and opinion polls ahead of the bebber— and opinion polls ahead of the bebber eewe— and opinion polls ahead of the ballot gave his— and opinion polls ahead of the ballot gave his main rival, bemeb— ballot gave his main rival, kemal kilicdaroglu, a slight beeb.— kemal kilicdaroglu, a slight beeb. a— kemal kilicdaroglu, a slight lead. a clearer— kemal kilicdaroglu, a slight lead. a clearer indication of me— lead. a clearer indication of me brer— lead. a clearer indication of the first round— lead. a clearer indication of the first round result is ebbeereb— the first round result is expected this- the first round result is expected this evening . tv online

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discussing the migrant and the barge-tom — discussing the migrant and the barge-tom eewe- discussing the migrant and the barge tom says it's not barge crisis. tom says it's not beer— barge crisis. tom says it's not beer-bbeeeerbme— barge crisis. tom says it's not just disgusting and sad just the disgusting and sad erbeeee— just the disgusting and sad erbeeee er— just the disgusting and sad closure of raf— just the disgusting and sad closure of raf scampton to make it closure of raf scampton to make br em— closure of raf scampton to make it an immigration— closure of raf scampton to make it an immigration centre which ebewe— it an immigration centre which shows zero respect for the bbererw— shows zero respect for the bbererwlrbe — shows zero respect for the history the station. history of the station. it's ebee— history of the station. it's also yet also the bigger picture of yet emerber— also the bigger picture of yet another-station- also the bigger picture of yet another station being lost. another raf station being lost. tony— another raf station being lost. bew-rebr— another raf station being lost. tony raf scampton . it is a tony says. raf scampton. it is a bbeereee— tony says. raf scampton. it is a bbeereeelwbbb— tony says. raf scampton. it is a disgrace. will accept disgrace. we will not accept it or_government. disgrace. we will not accept it or_government is| or give in. this government is a bbeereee— or give in. this government is a bbeereee emb— or give in. this government is a disgrace and 100%_ or give in. this government is a disgrace and 100% will be out in the disgrace and 100% will be out in me merr— disgrace and 100% will be out in the next general— disgrace and 100% will be out in the next general election. not mer— the next general election. not rber-erber— the next general election. not that-other will— the next general election. not that other will better that the other will be better rme— that the other will be better rbbe—e- that the other will be betteri rbbe—e rebe- this is this country is a joke. webb— this is this country is a joke. well, - exactly - this is this country is a joke. well,-exactly the- well, that's exactly the brebbem. — well, that's exactly the problem,-it?- well, that's exactly the problem, it? yvonne well, that's exactly the - problem,-it? yvonne says problem, isn't it? yvonne says seembrem— problem, isn't it? yvonne saysi seembrem—be scampton needs to stay as it is emb— scampton needs to stay as it is emb bewebebeb— scampton needs to stay as it is and developed for— scampton needs to stay as it is and developed for history. it's eerreeeeee — and developed for history. it's outrageous. scampton outrageous. leave scampton eemeb— outrageous. leave scampton eemeb webb— outrageous. leave scampton alone. well keep your thoughts eemme— alone. well keep your thoughts eembme. eb— alone. well keep your thoughts coming. gb views— alone. well keep your thoughts coming. gb views gb news. .uk. were— coming. gb views gb news. .uk. were going— coming. gb views gb news. .uk. were going beeb— coming. gb views gb news. .uk. we're going head to head in a ebeeb— we're going head to head in a ebeeb er— we're going head to head in a clash of minds.— we're going head to head in a clash of minds. and this is our meeb— clash of minds. and this is our new berm— clash of minds. and this is our new rebbe. a— clash of minds. and this is our next topic. a labour mp believes eemebe— next topic. a labour mp believes councils-introduce- next topic. a labour mp believes councils introduce speed councils should introduce speed bbmbre— councils should introduce speed bbmbrelrem— councils should introduce speed limits-ten miles— councils should introduce speed limits ten miles per hour limits of ten miles per hour near residential— limits of ten miles per hour near residential areas. now in a beeerbem— near residential areas. now in a question-transport- question to the transport seerererw— secretary mark harper, this week.— secretary mark harper, this week,-rachael- secretary mark harper, this- week,-rachael maskell week, labour's rachael maskell eeeeeereb— week, labour's rachael maskell eeeeeereb mer— week, labour's rachael maskell suggested that councils should rebeee—el reduce the speed limit near me— reduce the speed limit near homes._despite| reduce the speed limit near. homes. _despite the homes. now this is despite the mererbrw— homes. now this is despite the mererbrw er— homes. now this is despite the majority of speedometers in cars emw— majority of speedometers in cars embw ebemee— majority of speedometers in cars embw ererrbme er— majority of speedometers in cars only starting at 20— majority of speedometers in cars only starting at 20 mph last weer— only starting at 20 mph last weer rbe— only starting at 20 mph last year the labour— only starting at 20 mph last year the labour run wales government— year the labour run wales government announced all residential— government announced all residential roads with 30mph weebb— residential roads with 30mph zones would reduce to 20 from sebrember—

zones would reduce to 20 from september this— zones would reduce to 20 from september this year at the cost of september this year at the cost er 32— september this year at the cost of 32 million.— september this year at the cost of 32 million. now— september this year at the cost of 32 million. now this policy bee— of 32 million. now this policy bee beem— of 32 million. now this policy has been heavily— of 32 million. now this policy has been heavily criticised by the has been heavily criticised by me webeb— has been heavily criticised by the welsh tories— has been heavily criticised by the welsh tories as quote the welsh tories as they quote the welsh tories as they quote bme-er— the welsh tories as they quote bme-er br— the welsh tories as they quote the-of it will— the welsh tories as they quote the-of it will be - the welsh tories as they quote the of it will be around the cost of it will be around ebeeb— the cost of it will be around ebeeb ee— the cost of it will be around about 4.6 billion. that's a lot. so about 4.6 billion. that's a lot. se ee— about 4.6 billion. that's a lot. se we— about 4.6 billion. that's a lot. so are we better— about 4.6 billion. that's a lot. so are we better off walking mem— so are we better off walking rbem brbwbme— so are we better off walking than driving under a labour eemebe— than driving under a labour council? let's— than driving under a labour council? let's start with werrbew— council? let's start with matthew stadlen. no, i think it's matthew stadlen. no, i think be e— matthew stadlen. no, i think be e beb— matthew stadlen. no, i think it's a bad idea. _ matthew stadlen. no, i think it's a bad idea. , ten miles it's a bad idea. what? ten miles an it's a bad idea. what? ten miles em beere — it's a bad idea. what? ten miles em beere beeb.— it's a bad idea. what? ten miles an hour? yeah, it's— it's a bad idea. what? ten miles an hour? yeah, it's crazy.- it's a bad idea. , ten miles an hour? b/rzsass . t i an hour? yeah, it's crazy. i mean, i'm a londoner- an hour? / t i mean, i'm a londoner born and breb— mean, i'm a londoner born and breb emb— mean, i'm a londoner born and breb emb rbe— mean, i'm a londoner born and bred and i've been— mean, i'm a londoner born and bred and i've been driving in me— bred and i've been driving in me eebbreb— bred and i've been driving in the capital for— bred and i've been driving in the capital for a— bred and i've been driving in the capital for a long time. um.— the capital for a long time. bm. emb— the capital for a long time. bm. emb r— the capital for a long time. um, and i was— the capital for a long time. um, and i was rather- the capital for a long time. um, and i was rather blindsided when the speed limit came down to 20 miles an hour. and at first i thought it was a really badidea first i thought it was a really bad idea because i thought it was going to increase congestion, increase frustration , journeys . and , slow down journeys. and actually over time , um, over the actually over time, um, over the last few months , i've got used last few months, i've got used to it. i mean, i've always abided by it, but i've got used to it. i reckon lies, the advantages to safety. although there does seem to be a mix of evidence on that and i think broadly speaking, it's been a good thing . i think there are good thing. i think there are some really poor decisions made

in london, so for example, increasing cycle lanes in areas where that means that congestion builds up because you reduce two lanes to one. and in the end and to my mind, you know, this seems common sense to me, maybe the evidence will suggest otherwise . that means that people are walking along the street, will inhale more fumes because the traffic has built up ten miles an hour. it just seems ridiculous . not you can ridiculous. i'm not sure you can get think i can walk get anywhere. i think i can walk faster. what do you think, bewbbe— faster. what do you think, bewbbe — faster. what do you think, david? not— faster. what do you think, david? not even- faster. what do you think,- david? not even-cyclists david? not even the cyclists want it. i think they david? \rr:::r s tgtl e i think they actually want it. i think they actually beve— want it. i think they actually have interests— e i think they actually have interests boost a ten mile per have interests boost a ten mile ber beer— have interests boost a ten mile ber beer bbmbr— have interests boost a ten mile per hour limit in— have interests boost a ten mile per hour limit in one road in bbebmemb— per hour limit in one road in richmond park. _ per hour limit in one road in richmond park. s per hour limit in one road in richmond park. e richmond park. i mean, it's a park. a residential park. it's not a residential area. buti park. it's not a residential area. but i mean, that's ebeeberebw— but i mean, that's absolutely crazy. the cyclists go absolutely crazy. the cyclists ee—mbbee- absolutely crazy. the cyclists ee—mbbee eml absolutely crazy. the cyclists. go_miles an hour. go more than ten miles an hour. so go more than ten miles an hour. se-mew— go more than ten miles an hour. se-mew rme— go more than ten miles an hour. so-know, this is— go more than ten miles an hour. so know, this is just so you know, this is just emerber— so you know, this is just another part— so you know, this is just another part of the war on mererbme— another part of the war on mererbme .— another part of the war on motoring, isn't- another part of the war on motoring, isn't it, to make life bbmbeeb— motoring, isn't it, to make life difficult for— motoring, isn't it, to make life difficult for people who need to use a vehicle— difficult for people who need to use a vehicle like— difficult for people who need to use a vehicle like matthew says, mew-re— use a vehicle like matthew says, rbew-re-reeb— use a vehicle like matthew says, they're-road space- use a vehicle like matthew says, they're road space for they're reducing road space for were— they're reducing road space for ewebe bmee — they're reducing road space for cycle lanes. they're putting in bew— cycle lanes. they're putting in bew beme— cycle lanes. they're putting in low traffic neighbourhoods , 15 low traffic neighbourhoods, 15 mbmere— low traffic neighbourhoods, 15 minute cities,— low traffic neighbourhoods, 15 minute cities, all— low traffic neighbourhoods, 15 minute cities, all these kind of mbmbe— minute cities, all these kind of rbbmee. rbe— minute cities, all these kind of things. the ulez_ minute cities, all these kind of things. the ulez in london, ebeem— things. the ulez in london, ebeem eb— things. the ulez in london, clean air zones—

things. the ulez in london, clean air zones with massive bmee— clean air zones with massive bmee eeeb— clean air zones with massive fines around the— clean air zones with massive fines around the country, in emer— fines around the country, in emer bbeeee— fines around the country, in other places .— fines around the country, in other places . and this is just, other places. and this is just, you— other places. and this is just, wee mew.— other places. and this is just, wee knew me— other places. and this is just, you know, the speed limit , 30 you know, the speed limit, 30 mbbee— you know, the speed limit, 30 mbbee em— you know, the speed limit, 30 miles an hour— you know, the speed limit, 30 miles an hour is— you know, the speed limit, 30 miles an hour is a— you know, the speed limit, 30 miles an hour is a decent speed bbmbr— miles an hour is a decent speed bbmbr bm— miles an hour is a decent speed limit in urban— miles an hour is a decent speed limit in urban areas. i understand— limit in urban areas. i understand bringing it down to 20mph at certain times of the day near a school, for example. but then , you know, you have in but then, you know, you have in the but then, you know, you have in me mem.— but then, you know, you have in me mem br— but then, you know, you have in the night, it can— but then, you know, you have in the night, it can be— but then, you know, you have in the night, it can be 30 again, ber—rbem- the night, it can be 30 again, but—them morei but this will cost them more memew — but this will cost them more memew r— but this will cost them more money. i mean,— but this will cost them more money. s money. i mean, this is the problem labour councils in problem with labour councils in general, that they tend to spend more than conservative more money than the conservative ones and this is another harebrained plan. if drive harebrained plan. if you drive down—smaller- down some of the smaller residential— down some of the smaller residential-in- down some of the smaller residential in london. residential roads in london. now— residential roads in london. wew-bbee— residential roads in london. now,-idea of- residential roads in london. now, idea of driving at 30 now, the idea of driving at 30 mbbee— now, the idea of driving at 30 mbbeelbeer— now, the idea of driving at 30 miles-hour is— now, the idea of driving at 30 miles hour is quite scary and miles an hour is quite scary and even _were allowed - miles an hour is quite scary and even were allowed to, even when we were allowed to, for even when we were allowed to, fer-meterbrw— even when we were allowed to, fer-meterbrw er- for the vast majority of my brbwbme— for the vast majority of my driving life,— for the vast majority of my driving life, times it felt driving life, at times it felt a bme— driving life, at times it felt a bbrrbe bbr— driving life, at times it felt a little bit fast. _ driving life, at times it felt a little bit fast. all it takes is a little bit fast. all it takes is e embb— little bit fast. all it takes is e ebbbb er— little bit fast. all it takes is a child or anyone really to pop eer— a child or anyone really to pop eeb-e— a child or anyone really to pop out-a car. you- a child or anyone really to pop out-a car. you hit- a child or anyone really to pop out a car. you hit them out behind a car. you hit them at out behind a car. you hit them erlmbbee— out behind a car. you hit them erlmbbee em— out behind a car. you hit them at.miles an hour- out behind a car. you hit them at miles an hour and that's at 30 miles an hour and that's beb— at 30 miles an hour and that's beb-rber— at 30 miles an hour and that's bad-that person.- at 30 miles an hour and that's bad that person. it's bad news for that person. it's beb— bad news for that person. it's beb-wee.— bad news for that person. it's bad-you..changes| bad news for you. it changes bbwee— bad news for you. it changes lives forever— bad news for you. it changes lives forever .— bad news for you. it changes lives forever . so— bad news for you. it changes lives forever . so as i say, lives forever. so i, as i say, beve— lives forever. so i, as i say, bewe beee— lives forever. so i, as i say, have become a— lives forever. so i, as i say, have become a convert to 20 mbbee— have become a convert to 20 mbbee-r— have become a convert to 20 miles-i can't- have become a convert to 20. miles-i can't-ever miles an hour. i can't have ever bmeebmeb— miles an hour. i can't have everi bmeebmeb—re imagined becoming a convert to ten imagined becoming a convert to rem—r— imagined becoming a convert to rem—r beer- imagined becoming a convert to rem—r beer weml ten miles an hour. i just want to ten miles an hour. i just want re bbeb— ten miles an hour. i just want re bbeb wee— ten miles an hour. i just want re bbeb wee eb— ten miles an hour. i just want re bbeb wee eb em— ten miles an hour. i just want to pick you up on on something, bewbb— to pick you up on on something, bewbb. ebem— to pick you up on on something, david, given that— to pick you up on on something, david, given that this a head david, given that this is a head to david, given that this is a head re—ebeer- david, given that this is a head| re—ebeer-wer to head, you talk about the war on

to head, you talk about the war em—rbere- to head, you talk about the war em—rbere be- to head, you talk about the war em—rbere be e- to head, you talk about the war on_there is a warj on motorists. we there is a war on motorists. we there is a war em meberbebe— on motorists. we there is a war on motorists. we— on motorists. we there is a war on motorists. we are trying to me— on motorists. we are trying to mebe-berrer. — on motorists. we are trying to make - better. i say- on motorists. we are trying to make better. say this as make life better. i say this as i make life better. i say this as r-ee— make life better. i say this as r-ee e— make life better. i say this as r-ee e brbwer- make life better. i say this as i-as a driver. okay. make life better. i say this as i as a driver. okay so i say this as a driver. okay so i say this as a driver. okay so r-eee— i say this as a driver. okay so r-eee er— i say this as a driver. okay so r-eee er mw- i say this as a driver. okay so i-use of my car- i say this as a driver. okay so i-use of my car .- i say this as a driver. okay so i-use of my car. i. i enjoy the use of my car. i enjoy— i enjoy the use of my car. i emr-ew rbe— i enjoy the use of my car. i enjoy the freedom it brings. but the enjoy the freedom it brings. but rbe-ere— enjoy the freedom it brings. but rbe-ere beeme- the fact is we are facing a ebbmere— the fact is we are facing a climate catastrophe and all of us, climate catastrophe and all of mere— climate catastrophe and all of rbere be— climate catastrophe and all of us, there is no— climate catastrophe and all of us, there is no climate emergemew— us, there is no climate emergency. all of us are going to emergency. all of us are going be beve— emergency. all of us are going be bewe re— emergency. all of us are going to have to change.— emergency. all of us are going to have to change. otherwise the mere— to have to change. otherwise the rerere rer— to have to change. otherwise the rerere rer eer— to have to change. otherwise the future for our children is a bbeeeber— future for our children is a disaster. but— future for our children is a disaster. but also the other rmme— disaster. but also the other thingr bere— disaster. but also the other thing, let's get— disaster. but also the other thing, let's get david in, beee— thing, let's get david in, because you— thing, let's get david in, because you said there's a ebbmere— because you said there's a climate catastrophe. : e climate catastrophe. he doesn't agree— agree with you. that's the ideology these ideology behind all of these things. net and things. net zero climate. and there is no climate emergency . there is no climate emergency. carbon dioxide is absolutely bme— carbon dioxide is absolutely bme .— carbon dioxide is absolutely bme . beebbe— carbon dioxide is absolutely fine . people are— carbon dioxide is absolutely fine . people are scared of fine. people are scared of eeremb— fine. people are scared of carbon dioxide.- fine. people are scared of carbon dioxide. it's absolute nonsense. cars— carbon dioxide. it's absolute nonsense. cars getting most of mem— nonsense. cars getting most of mem embr— nonsense. cars getting most of them emit carbon— nonsense. cars getting most of them emit carbon dioxide . them emit carbon dioxide. bembre— them emit carbon dioxide. nothing wrong— them emit carbon dioxide. nothing wrong with that whatsoever. _ nothing wrong with that whatsoever. we need to use our eereleer— whatsoever. we need to use our eereleer brem — whatsoever. we need to use our eereleer brem a— whatsoever. we need to use our cars-get from a to- whatsoever. we need to use our cars get from a to b to cars to get from a to b to bebbwer— cars to get from a to b to deliver things— cars to get from a to b to deliver things for people to go to deliver things for people to go be wew.— deliver things for people to go be werb. amb— deliver things for people to go to work. and so— deliver things for people to go to work. and so on. so the whole bbee— to work. and so on. so the whole bbee er— to work. and so on. so the whole bbee er beeme— to work. and so on. so the whole idea of basing this— to work. and so on. so the whole idea of basing this as on ebbmere— idea of basing this as on climate catastrophe is completely. - climate catastrophe is completely. as r: completely. david, the only ideologue here in this particular conversation is you, because you're not relying on the science. the science suggests we are heading suggests that we are heading towards facing towards we are already facing catastrophic climate change.

that's science. that's that's not science. that's that's modelling. it's not science modelling. and already the high , the world is getting high, hotter and already are seeing hotter and already we are seeing the of that. and the consequences of that. and even you believe in even if you don't believe in that the vast majority of that and the vast majority of sensible in it sensible people do believe in it because to the because they listen to the science. no. i'm science. no, no, no, no. i'm also father of a baby also a father of a young baby who's seven months my area who's seven months old. my area i in notting hill. my i live in in notting hill. my area is in incredibly area of london is in incredibly polluted. i am one of the polluters. i accept that. i'm saying all have to change. saying we all have to change. that me when i walk that includes me when i walk down street, i can smell it. down the street, i can smell it. i it in my lungs and i can feel it in my lungs and i worry. that's that does worry. that's what that does to my going have to my son. we are going to have to change. or not, change. and like it or not, petrol is being phased out. let's bring david. well, petrol and let's bring david. well, petrol emb bbeeeb— let's bring david. well, petrol and diesel shouldn't- g as r: well, petrol and diesel shouldn't be phased eer.— and diesel shouldn't be phased eer-_be— and diesel shouldn't be phased eer-_be-er- and diesel shouldn't be phased eer-_be-er rbei out. i mean, this is one of the rerrbbbe— terrible things of the conservative government wants to do conservative government wants to belwebb— conservative government wants to belwebb-rbew- conservative government wants to do .well,-they all- conservative government wants to| do .well,-they all want do. well, i'm sure they all want to it. they all want to do to do it. they all want to do it. we can't get out of that one. let's to one. right. well, let's move to one. right. well, let's move to on conservative party on the conservative party because mounting because there is mounting pressure minister pressure upon prime minister rishi sunak following the tories latest dismal election results. now, former now, this comes as the former home secretary, priti patel criticised during criticised the leadership during the conservative democratic organisation event. a conference for so—called real

for the so—called real conservatives. now during this event, one name kept being named and it was of course the former prime minister boris johnson. so following local election following poor local election results and the failure to please all the ideologies of the party, as well as the pressure on dealing with the migrant crisis, is boris , whose return crisis, is boris, whose return actually on the cards ? let's actually on the cards? let's start with you, david. should he come back? i don't think he ebeebb— come back? i don't think he should come— come back? i don't think he should come back.- come back? i don't think he should come back. i- t t“ i don't think he should come back. i would get rid should come back. i would get rbb er— should come back. i would get rbb er rbe— should come back. i would get rid of the whole— should come back. i would get rid of the whole lot them, rid of the whole lot of them, you— rid of the whole lot of them, you-i— rid of the whole lot of them, wee-r-r-m- rid of the whole lot of them, wee-r-r-m rbel rid of the whole lot of them,- you-i-i'm the leader you know, i mean, i'm the leader of you know, i mean, i'm the leader er rbe— you know, i mean, i'm the leader er rbe berbreee— you know, i mean, i'm the leader of the heritage party. i you mew— know what i see is the conservatives - know what i see is the conservatives labour, lib dem beeme— conservatives labour, lib dem beeme-bemb— conservatives labour, lib dem greens. isn't much greens. there isn't much difference _ greens. there isn't much difference between any of them at difference between any of them er rbe— difference between any of them at the moment.— difference between any of them at the moment. they're all woke 21 at the moment. they're all woke 2b beereee— at the moment. they're all woke 2b beereee er— at the moment. they're all woke 21 degrees or another. they all buy— 21 degrees or another. they all bew bme— 21 degrees or another. they all bew bme rme— 21 degrees or another. they all buy into this climate alarmism nonsense and the— buy into this climate alarmism nonsense and the net zero bebbebee— nonsense and the net zero policies which— nonsense and the net zero policies which are decimating our policies which are decimating emerew— policies which are decimating our energy supply and also berbereerbme— our energy supply and also perpetuating the war on mererbere— perpetuating the war on motorists and so on. and ebwbeeebw— motorists and so on. and obviously he's- motorists and so on. and obviously he's pushed the war on meme.— obviously he's pushed the war on bbrebme. bee— obviously he's pushed the war on ukraine. you might— obviously he's pushed the war on ukraine. you might have bbmerem— ukraine. you might have different opinions on that, but i different opinions on that, but r mbmb— different opinions on that, but r rbbmb we— different opinions on that, but i think we should have been de—escalating_ i think we should have been de—escalating there rather than eerme—

de—escalating there rather than eerrbme bme— de—escalating there rather than eerrbme bme e— de—escalating there rather than getting into a conflagration . getting into a conflagration. wber— getting into a conflagration. wber weebb— getting into a conflagration. what would you _ getting into a conflagration. what would you do- getting into a conflagration. what would you do that- getting into a conflagration. what would you do that i mean, would you just don't send money and weapons to zelenskyy and then negotiate ? they get then try to negotiate? they get around the table.— then try to negotiate? they get around the table. this- then try to negotiate? they get around the table. this is- around the table. this is eemerbbme— around the table. this is something that around the table. this is- something that-never have something that should never have bebbemeb—bbeee. - something that should never have happened place. and happened in the first place. and the happened in the first place. and rbe-bw— happened in the first place. and the-by continuing- happened in the first place. and the ukrainians continuing happened in the first place. and the ukrainians aretinuing happened in the first place. and the ukrainians are being| this, ukrainians are being slaughtered,— this, ukrainians are being slaughtered, russians are being ebeeebrereb— slaughtered, russians are being ebeeebrereb .— slaughtered, russians are being slaughtered . we— slaughtered, russians are being slaughtered . we need to try and slaughtered. we need to try and end slaughtered. we need to try and emb-beb— slaughtered. we need to try and emb-beblmeem- slaughtered. we need to try and end-but,lmean,-al end this. but, i mean, that's a ebbe—re— end this. but, i mean, that's a ebbe—re rbe- side issue. back to the conservative - side issue. back to the conservative party. i mean, berbe— conservative party. i mean, boris johnson,— conservative party. i mean, boris johnson, he won on the beebe— boris johnson, he won on the beebe er— boris johnson, he won on the basis of three— boris johnson, he won on the basis of three words, get brexit beme — basis of three words, get brexit beme .— basis of three words, get brexit beme . ber— basis of three words, get brexit beme . be be— basis of three words, get brexit done , but he didn't do it done, but he didn't do it breberbw.— done, but he didn't do it properly- and_ done, but he didn't do it properly. and well, he didn't say— properly. and well, he didn't say properly- _ properly. and well, he didn't say properly. b/rzsass say properly. yeah, that'd be the fourth word. and he had an 80 eeeb— the fourth word. and he had an 80 seat majority— the fourth word. and he had an 80 seat majority and- : and he had an 80 seat majority and he's just been— 80 seat majority and he's just bbewm br. — 80 seat majority and he's just blown it. well,— 80 seat majority and he's just blown it. well, they- 80 seat majority and he's just blown it. fists“ blown it. well, they blew the party is the party within themselves because they had it and they squandered and they just they squandered it. what well, i'm it. what do you think? well, i'm surprised that that who surprised that that david, who is the head of the heritage party, which respects our heritage as having stood up to dictators the years , dictators over the years, including hitler, now including hitler, is now suggesting that we appease putin, who is a is one of the worst dictators. i'm not saying that. i'm saying we should de—escalate and try stop the

de—escalate and try to stop the slaughter. how how you de—escalate and try to stop the slaugtosr. how how you de—escalate and try to stop the slaugto negotiatev how you de—escalate and try to stop the slaugto negotiate with how you de—escalate and try to stop the slaugto negotiate with putin? you want to negotiate with putin? i've already we can just i've already said we can just simply de—escalate by not escalating , by simply de—escalate by not escalating, by sending more money and more weapons. putin just kill more and more ukrainians. this is really a ebbe— ukrainians. this is really a ebbe beeee— ukrainians. this is really a side issue-talk- s this is really a side issue talk about. ukrainians. this is really a- side issue .talk about. boris side issue to talk about. boris remem— side issue to talk about. boris johnson-myself- side issue to talk about. boris johnson myself clear. johnson beside myself clear. it's side issue to extent , it's a side issue to an extent, but johnson, in but actually boris johnson, in trying his political trying to save his political skin, send £2 billion to skin, did send £2 billion to ukraine when he was still prime minister and that was second only to the americans . it was only to the americans. it was a big issue for him as he tried to scramble his scramble to save his premiership. that premiership. this idea that bods premiership. this idea that boris real boris johnson is a real conservative and they to go conservative and they need to go back johnson the back to boris johnson to win the next election. he's not real next election. he's not a real conservative. spending conservative. he likes spending money. i tell you, if you money. i can tell you, if you talk conservatives or talk to core conservatives or they charisma and they they liked his charisma and they like the fact that he won them the eight the last election by an eight seat don't think seat majority, they don't think he's conservative. the seat majority, they don't think he's electionynservative. the seat majority, they don't think he's election isrervative. the seat majority, they don't think he's election is what ve. the seat majority, they don't think he's election is what you're; next election is what you're saying. we don't know. don't saying. we don't know. we don't know happen. know what's going to happen. i suspect erg and keir suspect i suspect erg and keir starmer is not perfect. of starmer is not perfect. one of the problems corbyn's the problems with corbyn's leadership a bit leadership was that it was a bit of people the of a cult. people loved the man. they man could do they adored the man he could do no i think starmer can do no wrong. i think starmer can do wrong a

wrong. i hope that i'm a sensible political analyst and political commentator broadly speaking, wants to see the end of this conservative government. very to see very much wants to wants to see a labour government. but does a labour government. but he does make to make mistakes and we need to hold power to account that hold power to account and that includes the leader of the opposition . very interesting opposition. very interesting ebem.— opposition. very interesting ebem—bbe- opposition. very interesting stuff. _ like to. opposition. very interesting. stuff. _like to see stuff. well, i would like to see i stuff. well, i would like to see r-mew— stuff. well, i would like to see r-mew wber— stuff. well, i would like to see i-know what to - stuff. well, i would like to see i know what to with i don't know what to do with rbem. — i don't know what to do with rbem. r— i don't know what to do with them. i think— i don't know what to do with them. i think they're all useless. there's not much in it reebbw—berbei useless. there's not much in it re returning—borisi useless. there's not much in it re returning ._boris| useless. there's not much in it re returning . is boris useless. there's not much in it re returning . is that boris useless. there's not much in it re returning . is that right?oris useless. there's not much in it re returning . is that right? do is returning. is that right? do you— is returning. is that right? do wee-ebeebb- is returning. is that right? do wee-ebeebblemi is returning. is that right? do. you-should.on the you think that should be on the eerbee— you think that should be on the eerbee-wber- you think that should be on the cards? _what you- you think that should be on the cards? what you think. cards? let's see what you think. vaiews@gbnews.uk at vaiews@gbnews.uk or tweet me at gb vaiews@gbnews.uk or tweet me at be wewe— vaiews@gbnews.uk or tweet me at be wewe br— vaiews@gbnews.uk or tweet me at be wewe b were— vaiews@gbnews.uk or tweet me at gb news if you're just tuned in. me— gb news if you're just tuned in. bbbe er— gb news if you're just tuned in. this, of course,— gb news if you're just tuned in. this, of course, is— gb news if you're just tuned in. this, of course, is head to beeb. — this, of course, is head to head. joining— this, of course, is head to head. joining me this afternoon is, head. joining me this afternoon beeeereel— head. joining me this afternoon is,.course,-kurten.- is, of course, david kurten. bee— is, of course, david kurten. be-e-beeber— is, of course, david kurten. he's-leader of- is, of course, david kurten. he's leader of the the he's the leader of the of the beeb— he's the leader of the of the beeblbeeb— he's the leader of the of the head i head the _ he's the leader of the of the head head the heritage party. head to head the heritage party. and head to head the heritage party. emb-ebemee— head to head the heritage party. and matthew statman. right. and also matthew statman. right. so and also matthew statman. right. se were— and also matthew statman. right. se rebbbme— and also matthew statman. right. so we're talking about all of me— so we're talking about all of rbbe ebem.— so we're talking about all of this stuff. last— so we're talking about all of this stuff. last up on there. bbb— this stuff. last up on there. bbb-wereb— this stuff. last up on there. did watch eurovision last did you watch eurovision last meme— did you watch eurovision last meme br— did you watch eurovision last meme rr ee— did you watch eurovision last night? it was, of— did you watch eurovision last night? it was, of course, the beebe— night? it was, of course, the beebe-rbe— night? it was, of course, the finale .the uk- night? it was, of course, the finale the uk finished finale and the uk finished a wew— finale and the uk finished a very disappointing second from beer.— very disappointing second from last,_surprised. very disappointing second fromj last,_surprised we last, actually. i'm surprised we bbbm-r— last, actually. i'm surprised we beeb-beer.— last, actually. i'm surprised we didn't-last, but- last, actually. i'm surprised we didn't-last, but at- last, actually. i'm surprised we didn't last, but at least didn't come last, but at least we—bber-ei didn't come last, but at least- we—bber-e wber we beat the germans. that's what beebbe— we beat the germans. that's what beebe—ber— we beat the germans. that's what beebbe—ber be- we beat the germans. that's what people—but is there. people are saying. but is there any— people are saying. but is there eew-mer— people are saying. but is there eew-rber we- people are saying. but is there any that we performed any surprise that we performed bew— any surprise that we performed bew we— any surprise that we performed bew we-er— any surprise that we performed how we _of course- any surprise that we performed how we of course mae how we did when of course mae webber— how we did when of course mae muller representing us openly eebb— muller representing us openly eebb-bereb- muller representing us openly said hated britain. said that she hated britain. bere— said that she hated britain. ber-e me— said that she hated britain. let's come to— said that she hated britain. let's come to you, matt stadler

. r— let's come to you, matt stadler . r bere— let's come to you, matt stadler . r bewe re— let's come to you, matt stadler . i have to admit,— let's come to you, matt stadler . i have to admit, school and me, if you will, i did not watch eurovision. it's not my thing. i was on at richmond theatre was on stage at richmond theatre interviewing one of our great actresses, stevenson. actresses, juliette stevenson. i think unbelievable tacky. think it is unbelievable tacky. i think british pop music is some of the very, very best in the world. so the idea that we get competition get excited by a competition that we always lose and often get seems to me get nul points seems to me slightly it seems to be slightly absurd. it seems to be kicking ourselves when we don't need to because some of our music very the music is the very best in the world. rival world. we can rival the americans and yet we always lose the eurovision. what's the eurovision. so what's the point? david admit point? david i must admit i rrbeb— point? david i must admit i rrbeblwereb— point? david i must admit i tried-watch it,— point? david i must admit i tried-watch it, but- tried to watch it, but i eeebbm-r— tried to watch it, but i couldn'tllt- tried to watch it, but i couldn'tiit-so. tried to watch it, but i- couldn'tiit-so terrible. it couldn't. it was so terrible. it was so woke and— couldn't. it was so terrible. it was so woke and it was also bebre— was so woke and it was also bme-bee— was so woke and it was also quite-you know,- was so woke and it was also quite-you know, i- was so woke and it was also quite you know, i remember was so woke and it was also qused you know, i remember was so woke and it was also qused to you know, i remember was so woke and it was also qused to watch know, i remember was so woke and it was also qused to watch it|ow, i remember was so woke and it was also qused to watch it 20 i remember was so woke and it was also qused to watch it 20 yearsiember was so woke and it was also qused to watch it 20 years ago.ar i used to watch it 20 years ago. i used to watch it 20 years ago. r mbmb— i used to watch it 20 years ago. r rbbmb rbe— i used to watch it 20 years ago. i think the last— i used to watch it 20 years ago. i think the last time we won was bemee— i think the last time we won was was katrina and— i think the last time we won was was katrina and the waves, wer— was katrina and the waves, ereemb bre— was katrina and the waves, wasn't it?-they- was katrina and the waves, wasn't it? they had a really wasn't it? and they had a really beebrbwe— wasn't it? and they had a really positive-street- wasn't it? and they had a really positive-street or- positive song, son street or wberewer. — positive song, son street or whatever. it's— positive song, son street or whatever. it's really very, very— whatever. it's really very, very wew— whatever. it's really very, very werw mee- whatever. it's really very, very, very nice. but i mean, now wee— very, very nice. but i mean, now wee-we-rbbe— very, very nice. but i mean, now you've-this british- you've got this british contestant— you've got this british contestant doesn't even you've got this british— contestant-doesn't even seem contestant who doesn't even seem to contestant who doesn't even seem re bbe— contestant who doesn't even seem re bbbe rbe— contestant who doesn't even seem to like the country.— contestant who doesn't even seem to like the country. i— contestant who doesn't even seem to like the country. i mean , so to like the country. i mean, so mere-e— to like the country. i mean, so rbere-e me— to like the country. i mean, so there's no money— to like the country. i mean, so there's no money to watch it for our contestant— there's no money to watch it for our contestant who's not berrbeeberbw— our contestant who's not particularly representing what i

weebb— particularly representing what i weebb weebb— particularly representing what i would would like— particularly representing what i would would like to see for this eemm— would would like to see for this eeemrw. ber— would would like to see for this eeemrw. be r— would would like to see for this country. but i mean, i just country. but i mean, ijust wereb— country. but i mean, ijust wereb bw— country. but i mean, ijust wereb rrw re— country. but i mean, ijust watch try to watch some of the bee. — watch try to watch some of the bee. amb — watch try to watch some of the bee. amb br— watch try to watch some of the acts. and it was— watch try to watch some of the acts. and it was just, you know .teer— acts. and it was just, you know .reer beer— acts. and it was just, you know .reer reer bewbb— acts. and it was just, you know , just just david, i— acts. and it was just, you know , just just david, i didn't like it , just just david, i didn't like br eeem— , just just david, i didn't like br eeem ebem— , just just david, i didn't like it again, given that we're head to it again, given that we're head re beeb.— it again, given that we're head re beeb. wee— it again, given that we're head to head, you keep— it again, given that we're head to head, you keep using throughout— to head, you keep using throughout this hour, the word webe— throughout this hour, the word webe emb— throughout this hour, the word woke and that— throughout this hour, the word woke and that goes unchallenged. wber— woke and that goes unchallenged. me be— woke and that goes unchallenged. me be webb— woke and that goes unchallenged. what is woke mean— woke and that goes unchallenged. what is woke mean to— woke and that goes unchallenged. what is woke mean to you?- woke and that goes unchallenged. what is woke mean to you? well i mean, it's a word that people have just started to use since about 2019. you could use the web— about 2019. you could use the word politically— �*0a you could use the word politically correct or you eeebb — word politically correct or you eeebb ee— word politically correct or you could use cultural marxist, wbbeb— could use cultural marxist, wbbeb be— could use cultural marxist, which is the— could use cultural marxist, which is the ideology behind webe— which is the ideology behind woke career. _ which is the ideology behind woke career. but- which is the ideology behind woke career. c woke career. but what does it mean to you? well, cultural woke career. c s 7 well, cultural give mean to you? well, cultural give us mean to you? well, cultural give ee em ebembbe— mean to you? well, cultural give ee em exembbe . — mean to you? well, cultural give us an example . what- s 7 well, cultural give us an example . c s us an example. what does it mean to you? what does woke mean to you? to asi to you? what does woke mean to you? to as i look, you don't you? to me, as i look, you don't wem— you? to me, as i look, you don't wemlee— you? to me, as i look, you don't wemlee-reb- you? to me, as i look, you don't wemlee-reb emb- you? to me, as i look, you don't want-go-top and tryi want to go over the top and try emb— want to go over the top and try emb bebbee— want to go over the top and try and police everyone the whole bme. — and police everyone the whole bme. _wer— and police everyone the whole bme-eer bew— and police everyone the whole time.-not how i- and police everyone the whole time. not how i my time. that's not how i live my be — time. that's not how i live my be lmw— time. that's not how i live my be lmw-bbre- time. that's not how i live my be lmw-bbre .- life. in my daily life, absolutely. - life. in my daily life, absolutely. but woke basically to absolutely. but woke basically re-meee— absolutely. but woke basically to means standing up for to my mind means standing up for beebbe-e— to my mind means standing up for beebbe-e beme.— to my mind means standing up for people's rights. often the meme— people's rights. often the rbebre er— people's rights. often the rights of minorities. i'm half remem— rights of minorities. i'm half rewbeb. bee— rights of minorities. i'm half jewish. you of— rights of minorities. i'm half jewish. you of mixed heritage. beere— jewish. you of mixed heritage. beere e— jewish. you of mixed heritage. you're a black— jewish. you of mixed heritage. you're a black woman. if the jewish. you of mixed heritage. you'rrwoke ack woman. if the jewish. you of mixed heritage. you'rrwoke meansnan. if the jewish. you of mixed heritage. you'rrwoke means standing|e jewish. you of mixed heritage. you'rrwoke means standing up for word woke means standing up for our word woke means standing up for bmereere— word woke means standing up for our interests to— word woke means standing up for our interests to make sure that we be— our interests to make sure that we be bm— our interests to make sure that we be be e— our interests to make sure that we live in a fair— our interests to make sure that we live in a fair society where we live in a fair society where

we judged— we live in a fair society where we are judged not— we live in a fair society where we are judged not on the colour of we are judged not on the colour er—erbmbe.- we are judged not on the colour er—erbmbe. - of our skin or our ethnic. web.— of our skin or our ethnic. webb-eebb- of our skin or our ethnic. well,-said i'm. of our skin or our ethnic. well,-said i'm a. of our skin or our ethnic. - well,-said i'm a black well, you just said i'm a black boy, you shouldn't. i'm boy, that you shouldn't. i'm not judging you that. i'm saying judging you on that. i'm saying we be judging you on that. i'm saying we-be because- judging you on that. i'm saying we-be because i'm. we shouldn't be because i'm eewbme—beeeeeei saying to do with it because i'm eewbme—teer- saying in the past. i'm just eewbme— saying in the past. i'm just eewbmelrbe— saying in the past. i'm just saying-the _just- saying in the past. i'm just saying the just the saying in the past, just the web— saying in the past, just the werb-eeebb- saying in the past, just the word could have been word woke could have been ebbbbeb— word woke could have been ebbbbeb-wbe- word woke could have been applied who would word woke could have been- applied _who would say applied to people who would say that people like us should have ebeeb— that people like us should have ebeeb-ewerwbebw- equal rights to everybody else. amb— equal rights to everybody else.| emb—eembmee and so i'm saying let's continue to and so i'm saying let's continue re-rbeee— and so i'm saying let's continue to-those rights- and so i'm saying let's continue to those rights people to extend those rights to people mer— to extend those rights to people rbb—re- that you might seek to marginalise. - that you might seek to marginalise. and i'm thinking bere— marginalise. and i'm thinking bere-beme— marginalise. and i'm thinking here trans people. now, there here of trans people. now, there is here of trans people. now, there belbeebrbmere— here of trans people. now, there isllegitimate there— here of trans people. now, there is legitimate there is. let me is a legitimate there is. let me beer— is a legitimate there is. let me beer-bem- is a legitimate there is. let me just point, because just finish the point, because erberwbee— otherwise what's the point of heme— otherwise what's the point of having—show?- otherwise what's the point of having show? you otherwise what's the point of- having _ show? you want having me on the show? you want to having me on the show? you want re 90— having me on the show? you want be be beeb— having me on the show? you want be be beeb re— having me on the show? you want to go head to head? i was ebeebme— to go head to head? i was speaking and you said like and brought fair enough. brought that point. fair enough. i'll brought that point. fair enough. rbb-wber— brought that point. fair enough. r-bb-wbem r— brought that point. fair enough. i'll-when i come.- apologise when i come. abebeebee.— apologise when i come. apologise. apologise. let me apologise. i apologise. let me ebeeb— apologise. i apologise. let me ebeeb-web.— apologise. i apologise. let me ebeeblwebb. r— apologise. i apologise. let me speak well. i apologise for speak as well. i apologise for bmerrebrbme— interrupting you earlier. i eemeb— interrupting you earlier. i. wemeb—er wanted to generate a bit of reberbmeee— wanted to generate a bit of feistiness_fun.| feistiness and a bit of fun. i weebb— feistiness and a bit of fun. i weebb beer— feistiness and a bit of fun. i would just-this- feistiness and a bit of fun. i would just this there is a would just say this there is a beebrbmere— would just say this there is a legitimate important legitimate and important conversation— conversation perhaps to be had ebeeb— conversation perhaps to be had about-between- conversation perhaps to be had about between women's about the line between women's beme— about the line between women's beme-beme. - rights and trans rights. i ebeeberebw— absolutely get that women's beme— absolutely get that women's beme-web. - absolutely get that women's rights-won. the- absolutely get that women's rights won. the idea rights are hard won. the idea mer— rights are hard won. the idea that someone— rights are hard won. the idea that someone with a penis is a r— that someone with a penis is a r bew-r— that someone with a penis is a woman, i don't buy it. right. mer— woman, i don't buy it. right. bber beeem-r— woman, i don't buy it. right. that doesn't-that- that doesn't mean that doesn't meem-beeem-r— that doesn't mean that doesn't mean doesn't mean to say. that doesn't mean that doesn't meéwe're doesn't mean to say. that doesn't mean that doesn't meéwe're allesn't mean to say. that doesn't mean that doesn't meéwe're all getting aan to say. that doesn't mean that doesn't meéwe're all getting caught;ay. that doesn't mean that doesn't meéwe're all getting caught up but we're all getting caught up in but we're all getting caught up be rbbe. — but we're all getting caught up be rbbe. mer— but we're all getting caught up in this. that doesn't mean to say— in this. that doesn't mean to eew-beebbe— in this. that doesn't mean to. eew-beebbe—re say that people who choose to bbembrw— say that people who choose to

bbembrw ee— say that people who choose to identify as women shouldn't be ebem— identify as women shouldn't be ebwem-ebeebb- identify as women shouldn't be given-should not- identify as women shouldn't be given should not be given respect, should not be meebeb. — given respect, should not be mocked. nobody— given respect, should not be mocked. nobody should be given eemem— mocked. nobody should be givenj eemem—rebebw certain rights. yeah, but nobody said when the clash with said that when the clash with women's conversation to women's rights a conversation to be sorry. so i'm going be had. sorry. so i'm going to stop you. listen nobody's saying that who identify that people who identify as a woman, don't woman, if they are a man, don't deserve respect. everyone deserves respect. we respect that. deserves respect. we respect that . but the deserves respect. we respect that. but the is deserves respect. we respect that . but the is that that. but the point is that they're women . that's as they're not women. that's as simple that's simple as that, david. that's just the bottom line. they're not absolutely. you not women. absolutely. you know , a a man and a not women. absolutely. you know , a-a man and a male. . not women. absolutely. you know , a a man and a male. a , a man is a man and a male. a mere— , a man is a man and a male. a mebe bemb— , a man is a man and a male. a mebe bew-r werr— , a man is a man and a male. a male don't want to _ , a man is a man and a male. a male don't want to change my language lie about it. language and lie about it. right. required to right. it's you're required to mm — right. it's you're required to affirm ldelusion. - right. it's you're required to affirm delusion. i'm not going affirm a delusion. i'm not going to. affirm a delusion. i'm not going re-eeb— affirm a delusion. i'm not going re-eeb-wber- affirm a delusion. i'm not going to. ask what wokeist to. do you ask me what wokeist wew—bm- to. do you ask me what wokeist wew—m e| now the thing is, we live in a remeerbe— now the thing is, we live in a fantastic society— now the thing is, we live in a fantastic society that's open, mee.— fantastic society that's open, free. rebr. — fantastic society that's open, free. rebr. we— fantastic society that's open, free, fair. we have equal opportunities— free, fair. we have equal opportunities .- free, fair. we have equal opportunities . but wokery is opportunities. but wokery is eeeembebbw— opportunities. but wokery is essentially a— opportunities. but wokery is essentially a collection of merrebrwee— essentially a collection of narratives that— essentially a collection of narratives that says even though our narratives that says even though eeebew— narratives that says even though eeeberw be— narratives that says even though our society is in— narratives that says even though our society is in reality fair emb— our society is in reality fair emb ebeeb— our society is in reality fair and equal and— our society is in reality fair and equal and good , that it's and equal and good, that it's ewerembeebbw— and equal and good, that it's systemically racist , systemically racist, misogynistic, homophobic , systemically racist,— misogynistic, homophobic , sick, misogynistic, homophobic, sick, rremebbebbe— misogynistic, homophobic, sick, transphobic islam— misogynistic, homophobic, sick, transphobic islam phobic and wherever— transphobic islam phobic and whatever other— transphobic islam phobic and whatever other phobia or anti rme— whatever other phobia or anti rbbe er— whatever other phobia or anti rbbe er emb — whatever other phobia or anti this or anti that— whatever other phobia or anti this or anti that you can think of. this or anti that you can think er. amb— this or anti that you can think er. amb rme— this or anti that you can think of. and this comes through very . wew— of. and this comes through very . wew meeb—

of. and this comes through very . werw meeb bm— of. and this comes through very , very much in the— of. and this comes through very , very much in the eurovision seme— , very much in the eurovision song eemem— , very much in the eurovision song contest. you have people wbrb— song contest. you have people wbrb rbebr— song contest. you have people wbrb rbebr err— song contest. you have people with their art pushing the merrebrwe— with their art pushing the narrative of— with their art pushing the narrative of transgenderism, beemee— narrative of transgenderism, beebbme rbe— narrative of transgenderism, pushing the narrative that women are pushing the narrative that women ebbreeeeb— pushing the narrative that women ebbreeeeb .— pushing the narrative that women are oppressed , trans people are are oppressed, trans people are ebbreeeeb— are oppressed, trans people are ebbreeeeb .— are oppressed, trans people are oppressed , lgbts_ are oppressed, trans people are oppressed , lgbts are oppressed. oppressed, lgbts are oppressed. mere-e— oppressed, lgbts are oppressed. there's systemic— oppressed, lgbts are oppressed. there's systemic racism and all me— there's systemic racism and all rbbe emb— there's systemic racism and all rbbe emb rme— there's systemic racism and all this and this comes through in the this and this comes through in me eemee— this and this comes through in me eemee .— this and this comes through in the songs . and— this and this comes through in the songs . and that's what i the songs. and that's what i bew-r— the songs. and that's what i bet bbe— the songs. and that's what i don't like about— the songs. and that's what i don't like about it . let don't like about it. let eurovision— don't like about it. let eurovision song contest just be happy— eurovision song contest just be bebbw ebeeb— eurovision song contest just be happy about representing the eebreree— happy about representing the eebreree er— happy about representing the cultures of the— happy about representing the cultures of the country and not ebeeb— cultures of the country and not about representing these woke merrebwee — about representing these woke narratives. so _ about representing these woke narratives. so to— about representing these woke narratives. so to respond to rbee— narratives. so to respond to rber. r— narratives. so to respond to rber. r em— narratives. so to respond to that, i am very— narratives. so to respond to that, i am very proud to be brbbeb— that, i am very proud to be british, right? _ that, i am very proud to be british, right? ' r: ”a c british, right? and every time england play rugby, football or cricket, i stand up and put my hand on my heart to sing the national anthem. let's get that absolutely . i am proud of absolutely clear. i am proud of our i also think our our country. i also think our country racist, is less country is less racist, is less prejudiced than possibly every other country on the planet. that doesn't mean to say that we don't still have big problems with racism. it doesn't mean to say we don't have with say we don't have problems with misogyny and sex. i've been on a show nana where one of the show with nana where one of the guests dear guests called her. my dear alastair campbell, someone you might with .

might think i would agree with. sometimes of banter. sometimes i do a bit of banter. he it's not asked none he called. it's not asked none of that nana. it's not banter. it's patronising. it's sexist . it's patronising. it's sexist. alastair campbell said. my dear , can you mountain of , can you mountain out of a molehill ? listen , i'm fine. i molehill? listen, i'm fine. i bembre— molehill? listen, i'm fine. i can handle myself.- s 7 listen, i'm fine. i can handle myself. actually and you can handle myself. actually and wee bbb— can handle myself. actually and wee bbb. amb— can handle myself. actually and wee bbb. amb wee— can handle myself. actually and you did. and you did. if i wer— you did. and you did. if i wasn't having— you did. and you did. if i wasn't having called him rebrembebme— wasn't having called him patronising, wasn't wasn't having called him patronising,iwasn't it patronising, i wasn't having it new— patronising, i wasn't having it .-but-question- patronising, i wasn't having it . but question you've . but. but the question you've beem— . but. but the question you've been eebeb— . but. but the question you've been asked, could— . but. but the question you've been asked, could you focus on mere — been asked, could you focus on mere bm— been asked, could you focus on that? i'm answering- been asked, could you focus on that? g that? i'm answering the question. i believe that we still big problems with still have big problems with racism in this country. i believe we have big believe that we still have big problems think problems with misogyny. i think we of transphobe we have a lot of transphobe here, way beyond here, which goes way beyond serious questions about the where should drawn where the line should be drawn between trans between women's rights and trans rights . of course, to rights. of course, we have to protect women's rights. i don't believe in a woke. believe we live in a woke. i don't believe we live in a woke. don't i don't don't buy that. and i don't buy that. believe that. i believe this is a cultural war distraction by people believe the people who don't believe the science change. science of climate change. no, no, say that there's a no, no. and say that there's a war on cars. that is ideology . war on cars. that is ideology. let's use the science. okay? so let's stop let's use the science. okay? so ber-e ereb wbrb— let's use the science. okay? so let's stop with that,— asrz; st. t okay? so let's stop with that, because eebeebbw— let's stop with that, because actually, i don't _ let's stop with that, because actually, don't buy that. actually, i don't buy that. i mbmb— actually, i don't buy that. i rbbmb mer— actually, i don't buy that. i think that the _ actually, i don't buy that. i think that the culture , the think that the culture, the ee—eebbeb — think that the culture, thei so—called_are think that the culture, the - so—called_are very, so—called culture wars are very, wew— so—called culture wars are very, wew-emb— so—called culture wars are very, very-and especially- so—called culture wars are very, very and especially as very relevant and especially as a very relevant and especially as.

a_as a woman, when a woman. so as a woman, when eemebebw— a woman. so as a woman, when somebody-literally— a woman. so as a woman, when somebody literally taking somebody is literally taking ewew— somebody is literally taking ewew mw— somebody is literally taking ewew mw beme— somebody is literally taking away my rights and identifying as lwoman _they- away my rights and identifying as woman they are not as a woman when they are not a woman, which could risk my eererw— woman, which could risk my eererw bm— woman, which could risk my eererw bm meww— woman, which could risk my safety in many women's spaces , i safety in many women's spaces, i mbmb— safety in many women's spaces, i rbbmb mer— safety in many women's spaces, i rbbmb me be— safety in many women's spaces, i think that is important. that's not think that is important. that's be e— think that is important. that's not a culture.— think that is important. that's not a culture. where should beme— not a culture. where should beme-ee— not a culture. where should beme-be re- not a culture. where shouldj trans-go to-loo? not a culture. where should- trans-go to-loo? i'm trans women go to the loo? i'm mer— trans women go to the loo? i'm mer rebbbme— trans women go to the loo? i'm not talking about— trans women go to the loo? i'm not talking about that. what are you not talking about that. what are wee—mem- not talking about that. what are you _then? what. you talking about then? what i'm rebbbme— you talking about then? what i'm remme—beer- you talking about then? what i'm talking _fact the - talking about is the fact the wbebe — talking about is the fact the wbebe _b— talking about is the fact the whole of identifying whole thing of identifying eemebebw— whole thing of identifying somebody trans as a whole thing of identifying- somebody-trans as a woman somebody who's trans as a woman wber— somebody who's trans as a woman wemmemb— i somebody who's trans as a woman wemmemb— sei when they're actually a man. so ebeebb— when they're actually a man. so ebeebb brewe— when they're actually a man. so should trans people— when they're actually a man. so should trans people not- when they're actually a man. so should trans people not allowed when they're actually a man. so shoultrans s people not allowed when they're actually a man. so shoultrans women? not allowed when they're actually a man. so shoultrans women? should )wed when they're actually a man. so shoultrans women? should people to be trans women? should people not trans women? they're not not be trans women? they're not women. not be trans women? they're not mew-re— not be trans women? they're not women. they're _women. i women. they're just not women. mew-re— they're not women. we're not rebbbme— talking trans women men. mew-re— talking trans women men. mew-re mer- — talking trans women men. they're not. that's- talking trans women men. they're not. that's offensive. and that's rude. why is that? they're not. that's offensive. and tilet s rude. why is that? they're not. that's offensive. and tilet s ru answer' is that? they're not. that's offensive. and tilet s ru answer the :hat? well, let me answer the question. you're question. to be fair, you're getting offended by the ipp to be way i'm talking you be way you're i'm talking you science . i'm telling you science science. i'm telling you science and you're getting offended by science i'm not denying. science because i'm not denying. let finish my response. a let me finish my response. a woman. there's two against one. so let me finish point. so let me finish my point. a man. i do. of course i believe so let me finish my point. a mrscience. of course i believe in science. of course i believe in science. of course i believe in that in biology. i don't think that someone can change their biology. fact, know biology. in fact, i know they can. well i'm glad they can identify as woman. well, identify as a woman. well, listen,-running- identify as a woman. well, listen,-running out. listen, we're running out of me. — listen, we're running out of me. _sayr- listen, we're running out of bme—eew br-el listen, we're running out of. time._say, it's been time. i've got to say, it's been rm— time. i've got to say, it's been rem—rel fun. thank you very much to werrbew— fun. thank you very much to

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bebbw— broadcaster and journalist danny bebbw. r— broadcaster and journalist danny bebbw. r beve— broadcaster and journalist danny bebbw. r bewe b.— broadcaster and journalist danny kelly. i love it. before we get ererreb— kelly. i love it. before we get ererreb .— kelly. i love it. before we get started , let's— kelly. i love it. before we get started , let's get— kelly. i love it. before we get started , let's get your latest started, let's get your latest news headlines— started, let's get your latest news headlines .— started, let's get your latest news headlines. nana started, let's get your latest news headlines . nana news headlines. nana thank you wew— news headlines. nana thank you werw meeb— news headlines. nana thank you very much and good afternoon. it's 4:00. this is the latest from the newsroom. nurses are calling for a double digit pay offer to prevent further strike action. the head of the royal college of nursing, pat cullen, told sunday times the told the sunday times the government risks another six months of industrial action if negotiations aren't reopened . negotiations aren't reopened. members rejected a 5% offer, which was accepted by 14 other unions . a new ballot for strikes unions. a new ballot for strikes will be held later this month. residents in north devon told gb news they need to consider the current economic climate. i do believe they are worth every penny of 5, but. but believe they are worth every penny of 5, but . but whether penny of 5, but. but whether mew-re— penny of 5, but. but whether mew-re werrb — penny of 5, but. but whether they're worth more- rzsra but whether they're worth more now, rsr�*la but whether they're worth more now, i think brebebbw— they're worth more now, i think brebebbw wee— they're worth more now, i think brebebbw wee .— they're worth more now, i think probably yes . but— they're worth more now, i think probably yes. but we they're worth more now, i think probably yes . but we definitely probably yes. but we definitely meeb— probably yes. but we definitely meeb mem— probably yes. but we definitely need them and— probably yes. but we definitely need them and we need the health eewbee. — need them and we need the health eewbee. rbe— need them and we need the health service. it's being— need them and we need the health service. it's being run down by me— service. it's being run down by this government,— service. it's being run down by

this government, which i can't bbeme— this government, which i can't bbeme mem— this government, which i can't blame them for. _ this government, which i can't blame them for. covid because it was a new disease,— blame them for. covid because it was a new disease, rest was a new disease, but the rest of was a new disease, but the rest eblrbew— was a new disease, but the rest eblrbew-eb— was a new disease, but the rest eblrbew-eb. - was a new disease, but the rest eblrbew-eb. r- was a new disease, but the resti of.they-up. i think of it, they mucked up. i think mew— of it, they mucked up. i think mew ebeebb— of it, they mucked up. i think they should accept the offer. that's because that's on the table because ebb— that's on the table because we're all suffering from the eeeb— we're all suffering from the eeeb er— we're all suffering from the cost of living— we're all suffering from the cost of living crisis . 'r: we're all suffering from the cost of living crisis . ' r: cost of living crisis. and as a pensioner , although we've had pensioner, although we've had a big rise this time, it's probably not going to last. and we're affected by everything as well . we're affected by everything as well. suggestions we're affected by everything as well . suggestions of unrest well. suggestions of unrest wbmm— well. suggestions of unrest wbrbbm rbe— suggestions of unrest within the conservative party are within the conservative party beme— within the conservative party are being downplayed after the rmme— are being downplayed after the prime minister— are being downplayed after the prime minister was blamed for the prime minister was blamed for me beeeb— prime minister was blamed for the local recent— prime minister was blamed for the local recent election eeebe— the local recent election results. rishi— the local recent election results. rishi sunak is facing erbrbebem— results. rishi sunak is facing criticism after— results. rishi sunak is facing criticism after nearly a rbeeeemb— criticism after nearly a thousand councillors were lost out thousand councillors were lost eer emb— thousand councillors were lost eer emb rbe— thousand councillors were lost out and the decision to scale beeb— out and the decision to scale back post—brexit— out and the decision to scale back post—brexit plans to scrap eu back post—brexit plans to scrap bu beee.— back post—brexit plans to scrap eu laws. former— back post—brexit plans to scrap eu laws. former home secretary brbrb — eu laws. former home secretary brbrb bereb— eu laws. former home secretary priti patel accused— eu laws. former home secretary priti patel accused the leader of priti patel accused the leader er rebbbme— priti patel accused the leader er rebbbme re— priti patel accused the leader of failing to listen to his party— of failing to listen to his berrw. ebbbme— of failing to listen to his party, adding the tories hadn't eeb— party, adding the tories hadn't covered itself— party, adding the tories hadn't covered itself in— party, adding the tories hadn't covered itself in glory since berbe— covered itself in glory since boris johnson's— covered itself in glory since boris johnson's leadership . boris johnson's leadership. merew— boris johnson's leadership. energy secretary grant shapps eewe— energy secretary grant shapps eewe rbe— energy secretary grant shapps says the prime— energy secretary grant shapps says the prime minister is doing the says the prime minister is doing rbe bem— says the prime minister is doing the right things— says the prime minister is doing the right things and people need to the right things and people need be be— the right things and people need be be berbem— the right things and people need be be berbem .— the right things and people need to be patient. but— the right things and people need to be patient. but i think this sense she was— to be patient. but i think this sense she was referring to the set sense she was referring to the eer er— sense she was referring to the set of elections— sense she was referring to the set of elections which were

ebwbeeebw— set of elections which were ebwbeeebw wew— set of elections which were obviously very difficult for the conservatives. _ obviously very difficult for the conservatives. "r; obviously very difficult for the conservatives. "big c conservatives. they weren't a good set of elections for us, but this was the first opportunity people have had to comment the shenanigans comment on all the shenanigans of last summer and those many leadership changes that went on. i think people were venting their frustration. i i think people were venting theirfrustration. i actually their frustration. i actually think the rishi sunak in his five point plan to halve inflation and grow the economy and reduce our debt and cut the nhs waiting list and stop the small boats. i think he's doing exactly the right things and let's judge him against that. let's judge this government against that. when it comes to the election. the against that. when it comes to the election . the shadow the next election. the shadow beebmeee— the next election. the shadow business secretary— the next election. the shadow business secretary has- "nix. t the shadow business secretary has defended ebeme— business secretary has defended were re— business secretary has defended were re ebbe— business secretary has defended plans to give workers the right to plans to give workers the right re ewbreb— plans to give workers the right to switch off— plans to give workers the right to switch off outside of working beere — to switch off outside of working hours. labour— to switch off outside of working hours. labour wants to restrict embbewere— hours. labour wants to restrict embbewere rrem — hours. labour wants to restrict employers from contact wing ebem— employers from contact wing ebem by— employers from contact wing ererr by ebeme— employers from contact wing staff by phone or email, saying werereb— staff by phone or email, saying workers should— staff by phone or email, saying workers should be— staff by phone or email, saying workers should be able to disconnect— workers should be able to disconnect from devices in their bewmbme— disconnect from devices in their bewmbme .— disconnect from devices in their downtime . similar legislation is downtime. similar legislation is ebreebw— downtime. similar legislation is ebreebw bm— downtime. similar legislation is already in place— downtime. similar legislation is already in place in france. remembr— already in place in france. jonathan reynolds told gb news it jonathan reynolds told gb news br em— jonathan reynolds told gb news it will promote— jonathan reynolds told gb news it will promote productive werrw. — it will promote productive werrw. r— it will promote productive motty. i think— it will promote productive motty. i think we do want to see

the motty. i think we do want to see me bbmb— motty. i think we do want to see me bbmb er— motty. i think we do want to see the kind of employment laws that will the kind of employment laws that wbbb brereer— the kind of employment laws that will protect family— the kind of employment laws that will protect family life, give beebbe— will protect family life, give beebbe eeme— will protect family life, give people some time in order to do the people some time in order to do me emer— people some time in order to do the other things— people some time in order to do the other things that are bmberrem— the other things that are important in— the other things that are important in as well as important in life as well as werb. — important in life as well as work. _think- important in life as well as. work. _think-been work. and i think that's been eroded significantly eroded very significantly in recent think the labour recent years. i think the labour market that market itself means that more people flexibility in the people want flexibility in the workplace, i'm absolutely workplace, but i'm absolutely confident the aggregate confident in the aggregate platform we'll put forward is the that will give people the one that will give people hope and turn this hope and optimism and turn this country years country around. after 13 years of government . of conservative government. meanwhile, the party says it has ebeme— meanwhile, the party says it has were re— meanwhile, the party says it has plans to create— meanwhile, the party says it has plans to create 80,000 new jobs in plans to create 80,000 new jobs be me— plans to create 80,000 new jobs be me eer— plans to create 80,000 new jobs in the car industry— plans to create 80,000 new jobs in the car industry .— plans to create 80,000 new jobs in the car industry . labour says in the car industry. labour says it in the car industry. labour says br em— in the car industry. labour says br wbbb berr— in the car industry. labour says it will part finance— in the car industry. labour says it will part finance eight beererbee— it will part finance eight factories to— it will part finance eight factories to achieve its goal. it factories to achieve its goal. rr wbbb— factories to achieve its goal. rr wbbb ebee— factories to achieve its goal. it will also help— factories to achieve its goal. it will also help power nearly 2 mbbbbem— it will also help power nearly 2 million electric— it will also help power nearly 2 million electric vehicles . it million electric vehicles. it eewe— million electric vehicles. it eewe rbe— million electric vehicles. it says the proposal will see the weer— says the proposal will see the west midlands— says the proposal will see the west midlands benefit from 28.000— west midlands benefit from zeooo rebe— west midlands benefit from 28,000 jobs and 11,000 roles wbbb— 28,000 jobs and 11,000 roles wbbb be— 28,000 jobs and 11,000 roles will be created— 28,000 jobs and 11,000 roles will be created in— 28,000 jobs and 11,000 roles will be created in the north weer— will be created in the north weer .— will be created in the north weer . webb— will be created in the north west . well, counting is under west. well, counting is under way— west. well, counting is under wew bm— west. well, counting is under wew bm berbew— west. well, counting is under way in turkey to _ west. well, counting is under way in turkey to establish who wbbb— way in turkey to establish who wbbb be— way in turkey to establish who wbbb be me— way in turkey to establish who will be the country's next breebbem. — will be the country's next president. voters have been beebbbme— president. voters have been beebbbme em— president. voters have been deciding on whether president brbeeem— deciding on whether president brbeeem. wbe-e— deciding on whether president erdogan, who's been in power for 20 weee— erdogan, who's been in power for 20 years, should— erdogan, who's been in power for 20 years, should be— erdogan, who's been in power for 20 years, should be re—elected .

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ask him is where did he hear those words? because frankly, they belong in an adult conversation. and rather than pandenng conversation. and rather than pandering changing pandering to him and changing all pronouns all his pronouns and embellishing delusion , i'll embellishing his delusion, i'll ask like , what is ask him questions like, what is ask him questions like, what is a girl? what does a girl do? and what makes you think that you are one? but it seems some adults are prepared to embellish this fantasy and potentially set these children up for a life of gender confusion and delusion. because that's what it is in my view. i mean, take the case of a female christian primary school teacher who claims that she was pretty much sacked after refusing to use an eight year old's preferred pronoun . old's preferred pronoun. apparently school helped the apparently the school helped the youngster transition into a boy and then demanded that all staff call the child by their preferred male name and pronouns. i mean , this is an pronouns. i mean, this is an eight year old and at eight years old i was more worried about going out to play on my bike although bike and conkers. although i don't think the kids are allowed to do that game anymore. to do do that game anymore. health and safety. i mean, perhaps problem these perhaps that's the problem these days. our children have so much time hands unspent

time on their hands and unspent energy that they're placing it on nonsense . and on all this nonsense. and apparently this teacher was concerned about well—being concerned about the well—being of as they were of this child as they were allowed use the male changing allowed to use the male changing rooms during their transition . rooms during their transition. and biological and despite being a biological girl, so female and only eight years old. i mean, come on, where are the adults in the room instead of listening to the valid concerns of the teacher, the child was subsequently removed from their class to safeguard them, meaning the child from any potential harm. and then the teacher was warned by the school that her personal beliefs could be a direct breach of gdpr and an act of direct discrimination. if she acted on them. i mean, can you believe this? if this were my child, i wouldn't want her changing with the boys. i don't care what gender she thinks that she is. she's eight. i'm the parent and she's a girl. but the story gets worse. the teacher claims that she was later suspended and put under disciplinary investigation for an alleged ongoing refused ,

for an alleged ongoing refused, able to follow a management instruct when she was only reinstated when she agreed to avoid unnecessary contact with the child and promised to not to call the child by a name or any any other gender specific pronouns . so why does this pronouns. so why does this matter? well i imagine that sir keir starmer would dismiss this as part of the so—called culture wars as not relevant to the electorate, and that the focus is more on the cost of living. and i wrote about why i think he's wrong and about the fear. my he's wrong and about the fear. my teenage daughter has about the whole gender confusion. because i believe it matters when people's careers and the welfare of our children is at stake. it matters. it matters deeply . right? so before we get deeply. right? so before we get stuck into the debate, here's what else is coming up today for the great british debate. this i'm asking is sir keir starmer trying to rig future elections? now, according to leaked documents , labour plans to documents, labour plans to extend the vote to eu nationals

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let's welcome again to my panel, author and broadcaster christine hamilton . oh, that is her hamilton. oh, that is her broadcaster and journalist danny kelly. right. well, before we get stuck in, let's talk about this. and so what do you think then? your thoughts? danny kelly okay, listen, i'm as big a terf as jk rowling and kelly j. keenan , i think her name is. keenan, i think her name is. ber— keenan, i think her name is. bee wee— keenan, i think her name is. bee wee mew— keenan, i think her name is. but you know what?- keenan, i think her name is. but you know what? there's a little bit of me that thinks, okay, this is an eight year old lad that thinks he's a girl and there's a little bit of me that says that the teacher says that maybe the teacher should humanity in should have a bit of humanity in this situation. now, don't get me this situation. now, don't get mmewe-b. - this situation. now, don't get me-know. then- this situation. now, don't get me know. then you ask, me wrong. i know. then you ask, where the where is where does the line, where is the drawn? i get all of the line drawn? i get all of that. the line drawn? i get all of bbee—ebem- the line drawn? i get all of that._eight yeari the line drawn? i get all of. that._eight year old that. but it's an eight year old in that. but it's an eight year old bm—eemereb- that. but it's an eight year old bm—eemereb .- that. but it's an eight year old in _general . so i that. but it's an eight year old. in_general . so like in general. in general. so like an year old saying that an eight year old saying that there. you ignore the case there. so if you ignore the case itself in itself and you look at it in general, an eight old says, general, an eight year old says, oh, think i'm a boy. oh, you know, i think i'm a boy. sure. do you relish that conversation that obviously that conversation that obviously that conversation had been had at home mum and dad.7 i home with his mum and dad.7 i noficed home with his mum and dad.7 i noticed calling him noticed i'm still calling him a mm. — noticed i'm still calling him a mm. that-s— noticed i'm still calling him a him. that's because- noticed i'm still calling him a him. that's because i- noticed i'm still calling him a him. f 20“ c him. that's because i don't have any interaction with him. now,

if and i was if i was his teacher and i was under instruction be under instruction to be sympathetic this kid's plight sympathetic to this kid's plight and is mentally torturous, by and it is mentally torturous, by the way , then i would i would the way, then i would i would refer to him as a she , because refer to him as a she, because that's what in general that's what she wants. so in general, anv— what she wants. so in general, any eight— what she wants. so in general, any eight year— what she wants. so in general, any eight year old— so in general, any eight year old child that says— any eight year old child that says that— any eight year old child that says that they're not they don't you— says that they're not they don't you would — says that they're not they don't you would actually then what go along— you would actually then what go along nann— you would actually then what go along nnn ane— you would actually then what go along with the context is that it's along with the context is that n-n—ga i along with the context is that. n-n—ga aaang it's a school would you go along nann— it's a school would you go along nan-u— it's a school would you go along nan-u mean— it's a school would you go along with-i mean eight- with it. well i mean eight is very— with it. well i mean eight is very young— with it. well i mean eight is very young nn-a— with it. well i mean eight is very young isn't it.7 2 very young isn't it.7 i would be i very young isn't it.7 i would be annula— very young isn't it.7 i would be i would have thought that an eight year old basically should be told to get on with what normal year do. and normal eight year olds do. and we'll discuss this. and certainly should certainly what i think should have don't know have happened and i don't know whether occasion whether it did on this occasion , actually , the teacher should actually talk parents, but talk to the parents, but apparently they're not allowed talk to the parents, but appare|toy they're not allowed talk to the parents, but appare|to the zy're not allowed talk to the parents, but appare|to the parents. allowed talk to the parents, but appare|to the parents. so owed talk to the parents, but appare|to the parents. so thed to talk to the parents. so the parents blissfully parents may be blissfully unaware for, oh, i doubt you. the pair, but doubted by now. but the whole thing starts but when the whole thing starts off the teacher, child off and the teacher, the child first let's take it. any first goes, let's take it. any child , a boy or a girl says, i child, a boy or a girl says, i want be the other sex. want to be the other sex. apparently they are not allowed to parents. that to tell the parents. and that to me, don't have me, seems they don't have to. seems totally wrong. it's something—

seems totally wrong. it's something parents something that the parents should with. but one should be involved with. but one of the sadnesses this is that of the sadnesses of this is that there's good there's presumably a really good teacher now out of a job. teacher who is now out of a job. that's because of her intransigence , because of her intransigence, because of her cnnsnan— intransigence, because of her christian beliefs— intransigence, because of her christian beliefs and her stubbornness. �*" 00:00; christian beliefs and her- stubbornness. if we were talking about a 14 or a 15 year old girl or something or boy or whatever, a bit yes. but a little bit older, yes. but eight-incredibly. a little bit older, yes. but- eight-incredibly young eight you are incredibly young at agn- — eight you are incredibly young an an ana— eight you are incredibly young at eight. and of— eight you are incredibly young at eight. and of course, the anna— at eight. and of course, the nan-amn— at eight. and of course, the eight-olds, you- at eight. and of course, the eight olds, you know, are eight year olds, you know, are aney— eight year olds, you know, are aney nauy— eight year olds, you know, are aney really am— eight year olds, you know, are they really old enough to be- nan—wan more sympathetic with it.7 well, that-a— more sympathetic with it.7 well, than not— more sympathetic with it.7 well, than not ana— more sympathetic with it.7 well, that's not the point.— more sympathetic with it.7 well, that's not the point. it's the point the year old point whether the eight year old wants as a do wants to be referred to as a do you know? no. listen, do you know— you know? no. listen, do you know nnaoo— you know? no. listen, do you know what? at— you know? no. listen, do you know what? at eight- , no. listen, do you know what? at eight do you know nnao— know what? at eight do you know nnao-no— know what? at eight do you know what-is? exactly. - know what? at eight do you know what is? exactly. you what a girl is? exactly. and you know—no- know what a boy should be identifying— know what a boy should be identifying-you - know what a boy should be identifying you know those identifying as if you know those mango.— identifying as if you know thosei things._because things. that's very odd, because oven—of- things. that's very odd, because. oono—f nnao even now, the boundaries of what a woman can do and what a man oo— a woman can do and what a man oo-oon— a woman can do and what a man oo-oon on— a woman can do and what a man can do, sort of merge into can do, they sort of merge into into— can do, they sort of merge into into one— can do, they sort of merge into anoo anyway.— can do, they sort of merge into into one anyway. this is just into one anyway. so this is just simply— into one anyway. so this is just simply a— into one anyway. so this is just simply a perception. do merges, but simply a perception. do merges, out noo— simply a perception. do merges, out not nnao— simply a perception. do merges, but not what they— simply a perception. do merges, but not what they are exactly . but not what they are exactly. so but not what they are exactly. so ann— but not what they are exactly. so onn n— but not what they are exactly. so this is just— but not what they are exactly. so this is just a— but not what they are exactly. so this is just a perception of nnao— so this is just a perception of nnao-onnn— so this is just a perception of what-think a— so this is just a perception of what-think a girl- so this is just a perception of what think a girl or a boy what you think a girl or a boy noos— what you think a girl or a boy oooo anon— what you think a girl or a boy does with your— what you think a girl or a boy does with your limited knowledge at that age. so your limited knowledge— at that age. so your limited knowledge at— at that age. so your limited knowledge at age eight knowledge at that age of eight is-girl_ knowledge at that age of eight n-gan n— knowledge at that age of eight is-girl is-what- knowledge at that age of eight is girl is what a boy is what a girl is and what a boy is. is what a girl is and what a boy n—oaoon—

is what a girl is and what a boy n—oaoon yon- is what a girl is and what a boy is._older, you work. is. as you get older, you work out— is. as you get older, you work out anat— is. as you get older, you work out that actually— is. as you get older, you work out that actually it can be any of mono— out that actually it can be any of those things— out that actually it can be any of those things anything. so of those things and anything. so if of those things and anything. sol n—nnonaooao if you are basing your knowledge on if you are basing your knowledge| on—anolono on what you think you are by the knowledge— on what you think you are by the knowledge that— on what you think you are by the knowledge that acquired knowledge that you've acquired from — knowledge that you've acquired from being— knowledge that you've acquired from being eight,— knowledge that you've acquired from being eight, i don't think yon-no— from being eight, i don't think yon-no equipped— from being eight, i don't think you're equipped that you're equipped to make that decision. — you're equipped to make that decision. _agree.- you're equipped to make that decision. 00000; you're equipped to make that. decision. _agree. but we're decision. no, i agree. but we're not talking about whether it's a correct my why should not talking about whether it's a corroembellish my why should not talking about whether it's a corroembellish i\well,/should not talking about whether it's a corroembellish i\well,/shnpoint not talking about whether it's a corisembellish i\well,/shnpoint not talking about whether it's a coris thatllish i\well,/ shnpoint not talking about whether it's a coris that it's| i\well,/ shnpoint not talking about whether it's a coris that it's kinderell,/ shnpoint not talking about whether it's a coris that it's kinderell, aninpoint is, is that it's kinder to an eight year old. that's only eight year old. that's my only point. that? because it's point. why is that? because it's kinder point. why is that? because it'sj nnoon—yoa kinder to be honest and say you are kinder to be honest and say you noo— kinder to be honest and say you not a— kinder to be honest and say you not a boy,— kinder to be honest and say you are not a boy, you're a girl. nan— are not a boy, you're a girl. out no— are not a boy, you're a girl. but do whatever- are not a boy, you're a girl. but do whatever you want to do. nan— but do whatever you want to do. on non— but do whatever you want to do. out for a— but do whatever you want to do. but for a teacher— but do whatever you want to do. but for a teacher to— but do whatever you want to do. but for a teacher to have with an agno— but for a teacher to have with an onion yea— but for a teacher to have with an eight year old,— but for a teacher to have with an eight year old, is it? that-s— an eight year old, is it? anao-s a— an eight year old, is it? that's a conversation- an eight year old, is it? that's a conversation the that's a conversation for the parents. but should you be embellishing— parents. but should you be embellishing it— parents. but should you be embellishing it in- but should you be embellishing it in a school setting?— embellishing it in a school setting?-that- embellishing it in a school setting? that be setting? should that be embellished? she's going to use yon-no—ono- you're going to be using the man— you're going to be using the nan—going- male toilets. you're going to be doing— male toilets. you're going to be doing .— male toilets. you're going to be doing lyoa-no— male toilets. you're going to be doing lyoa-n yon- male toilets. you're going to be doing, you're yet you're doing, but you're yet you're onu— doing, but you're yet you're sou—no.- doing, but you're yet you're sou—no. tol doing, but you're yet you'rei still—no, to be still a girl. yeah. no, to be the would is still a girl. yeah. no, to be the the would is still a girl. yeah. no, to be the the toiletswould is still a girl. yeah. no, to be the the toilets aled is still a girl. yeah. no, to be the the toilets as well. is still a girl. yeah. no, to be the the toilets as well. so is with the toilets as well. so i suppose i'm to have my suppose i'm trying to have my cake eat it with i'm cake and eat it with it. i'm going try. having my cake going to try. i'm having my cake and would you and eating. no cake. would you have you and eating. no cake. would you have-you wouldn't- and eating. no cake. would you have-you wouldn't eat- and eating. no cake. would you. have _you wouldn't eat any. have that? you wouldn't eat any. it's have that? you wouldn't eat any. no taken— have that? you wouldn't eat any. it's taken-minutes. - have that? you wouldn't eat any. it's taken-minutes. that- it's taken five minutes. that one. gave me that it's taken five minutes. thatj one. .gave me that-i one. you gave me that one. i know. — one. you gave me that one. i know. _yoa- one. you gave me that one. i know. _yoa one- one. you gave me that one. i. know. _you one once. know. i gave you one once. you've that know. i gave you one once. voa-vo—onao a- know. i gave you one once. you've-that a boy. know. i gave you one once. i you've-that a boy can you've accepted that a boy can be you've accepted that a boy can no a— you've accepted that a boy can no a girl— you've accepted that a boy can no a an on— you've accepted that a boy can no a an on a— you've accepted that a boy can be a girl or a girl— you've accepted that a boy can be a girl or a girl can be a boy.— be a girl or a girl can be a boy. whatever— be a girl or a girl can be a boy. whatever age they are. once it nas— boy. whatever age they are. once it nao noon— boy. whatever age they are. once it has been accepted in that

institution,— institution, in this case a sonoon— institution, in this case a sonoon-yoa- institution, in this case a school,-you-to institution, in this case a- school,-you-to they school, then you have to they navo — school, then you have to they navo oo — school, then you have to they navo no no— school, then you have to they have to use whichever lavatories onoy—oox— have to use whichever lavatories they _ sex entitles . they they're new sex entitles anon — they they're new sex entitles anon oo— they they're new sex entitles anon no no— they they're new sex entitles them to use. but— they they're new sex entitles them to use. but aged eight, it is them to use. but aged eight, it n anonno— them to use. but aged eight, it n anonno . — them to use. but aged eight, it is absurd . and— them to use. but aged eight, it is absurd . and he— them to use. but aged eight, it is absurd . and he is- them to use. but aged eight, it is absurd . ' 2 cc is absurd. and he is still intact. obviously you haven't got any you're not going to surgery. no, no, no. but but ann— surgery. no, no, no. but but no n— surgery. no, no, no. but but no is no— surgery. no, no, no. but but this is the thing.— surgery. no, no, no. but but this is the thing. i- ”9:03 no, no, no. but but this is the thing. i mean, ”903 no, no, no. but but this is the thing. i mean, look, we this is the thing. i mean, look, no .— this is the thing. i mean, look, no . nan— this is the thing. i mean, look, we i had transgender male scott nnaont— we i had transgender male scott nngont nono. — we i had transgender male scott nugent here. .came- we i had transgender male scott nugent here. came the way nugent here. he came all the way from— nugent here. he came all the way non-to— nugent here. he came all the way non-to tatt— nugent here. he came all the way from _to talk to - from the states to talk to us. on — from the states to talk to us. on _wasl gb news brilliant. he was incredible.— gb news brilliant. he was. incredible._said gb news brilliant. he was- incredible. _said was incredible. and what he said was tnat— incredible. and what he said was mat-notion— incredible. and what he said was that-problem with- incredible. and what he said was that problem with this is that the problem with this is tnat— that the problem with this is tnat-yon-vo— that the problem with this is that-you've not- that the problem with this is that you've not educated that what you've not educated the that what you've not educated to onto — that what you've not educated the child with— that what you've not educated the child with that eight nooanoo— the child with that eight because child the child with that eight because .child got because the child hasn't got tno— because the child hasn't got tno to— because the child hasn't got time to learn— because the child hasn't got time to learn this is that if you— time to learn this is that if yon oo— time to learn this is that if yon no 90— time to learn this is that if yon no go along- time to learn this is that if. you do go along-and you do go along this path and you— you do go along this path and yon—au- you do go along this path and yon—an tno- you end up with all the ononoog— you end up with all the surgeries this surgeries and everything, this is surgeries and everything, this to a— surgeries and everything, this is a lifetime— surgeries and everything, this is a lifetime medication. is a lifetime of medication. i nnoonotano— is a lifetime of medication. i understand medicated for is a lifetime of medication. i und andind medicated for is a lifetime of medication. i und and you're medicated for is a lifetime of medication. i und and you're on medicated for is a lifetime of medication. i und and you're on aiedicated for is a lifetime of medication. i und and you're on a path.ted for is a lifetime of medication. i und and you're on a path. and or life and you're on a path. and he life and you're on a path. and no ontony— life and you're on a path. and he bitterly regrets it. and he wont— he bitterly regrets it. and he wont tnnonan— he bitterly regrets it. and he went through it— he bitterly regrets it. and he went through it 42. was went through it at 42. he was oontnooo— went through it at 42. he was convinced to— went through it at 42. he was convinced to do— went through it at 42. he was convinced to do this. and he says— convinced to do this. and he says on— convinced to do this. and he says on .— convinced to do this. and he says, oh, i don't— convinced to do this. and he says, oh, i don't know, you know,— says, oh, i don't know, you tnoonlnon— says, oh, i don't know, you know,.now-wasj says, oh, i don't know, you. know,.now-was a know, he now goes, it was a ntotato. — know, he now goes, it was a ntotato. ont— know, he now goes, it was a mistake. but point, you mistake. but at that point, you cant— mistake. but at that point, you cant-n.— mistake. but at that point, you oan-tln. so— mistake. but at that point, you oan-tln. so no— mistake. but at that point, you can't-it. so do you- mistake. but at that point, you can't it. so do you want to can't do it. so do you want to stan— can't do it. so do you want to stat-onio— can't do it. so do you want to otan-oniola- can't do it. so do you want to start-childia-ofl start the child on a path of notontat— start the child on a path of potential the potential medicalisation for the rest potential medicalisation for the root—anon- potential medicalisation for the rest—when they. rest of their lives when they non-t— rest of their lives when they don't-different?- rest of their lives when they. don't-different? eight don't know any different? eight yoa— don't know any different? eight yoano—otl years, eight years of life, of onion— years, eight years of life, of onion onty— years, eight years of life, of which only three _ years, eight years of life, of which only three of them you'll nnonanty— which only three of them you'll probably remember because you nnonanty— probably remember because you ononantno— probably remember because you probabthe-five. - probably remember because you probabthe five. what do

before the age of five. what do you— before the age of five. what do yon noauy— before the age of five. what do you really know? _ before the age of five. what do you really know? 3000 e you really know? well, it's the teacher's to intervene . then teacher's job to intervene. then it's yes. well, it's the parents. yes. well, there my point. there you go. this is my point. it's the parents shouldn't be allowed discussion. it be allowed discussion. it should be both. allowed discussion. it should be both-obviously,- allowed discussion. it should be both.-obviously, parentsi both. i mean, obviously, parents navo— both. i mean, obviously, parents navo-onty— both. i mean, obviously, parents navo-onty of- both. i mean, obviously, parents have-duty of care.- have massive duty of care. toaonon— have massive duty of care. toaonon-a- have massive duty of care. teachers a massive duty of teachers have a massive duty of as non.— teachers have a massive duty of care as well. and— teachers have a massive duty of care as well. and it— teachers have a massive duty of care as well. and it should be notnoon— care as well. and it should be notnoon tno— care as well. and it should be between the there should be between the two. there should be moonston— between the two. there should be discussion-teacher- discussion. if i was a teacher ano— discussion. if i was a teacher ant—ott- discussion. if i was a teacher ant—om oanoi discussion. if i was a teacher. and—old came to discussion. if i was a teacher- and_old came to me and an eight year old came to me ano— and an eight year old came to me and oao— and an eight year old came to me and oatatlnant— and an eight year old came to me and said,iwant to— and an eight year old came to me and said,iwant to be— and an eight year old came to me and said, want to be a boy or and an eight year old came to me aigirl,iid, want to be a boy or and an eight year old came to me aigirl, my want to be a boy or and an eight year old came to me aigirl, my immediatee a boy or and an eight year old came to me aigirl, my immediate instinct)r a girl, my immediate instinct nonto— a girl, my immediate instinct wont—tatt- a girl, my immediate instinct would _talk to. a girl, my immediate instincti would _talk to the would say, go and talk to the noao— would say, go and talk to the head mistress— would say, go and talk to the head mistress or— would say, go and talk to the head mistress or master and then tatt— head mistress or master and then at to— head mistress or master and then at to no— head mistress or master and then talk to the parents.— head mistress or master and then talk to the parents. this is not oonotntng— talk to the parents. this is not oonotntng-no- talk to the parents. this is not something be dealt with something that can be dealt with by something that can be dealt with ny-nonoon. — something that can be dealt with ny-nonoon. _yonl something that can be dealt with nyla-nonoon. _yonl something that can be dealt with by a teacher, ;on. you something that can be dealt with by a teacher, an. you something that can be dealt with by a teacher, a shared you were a teacher, a shared responsibility— were a teacher, a shared responsibility . “ were a teacher, a shared- responsibility . i mean, teaching responsibility. i mean, teaching is vocation as well. is a vocation as well. and compassionate, people , compassionate, decent people, generally are generally speaking, are teachers. so what is teachers. absolutely. so what is the and agree with 99% the harm? and i agree with 99% of everyone's saying, what of what everyone's saying, what is just referring is the harm in just referring to this as a she? because this lad as a she? because it's going his and i'm still going to make his and i'm still using he because that's he using he because that's what he is. going to make is. but he's just going to make his because his school. it's a lie because it's i agree . it's a lie. it's a lie. i agree. it's a lie. and yon— it's a lie. i agree. it's a lie. and you're teaching- e c 0 0000 it's a lie. and you're teaching them that it's and you're teaching them that its okay— and you're teaching them that its okay to— and you're teaching them that it's okay to-it's- it's okay to lie and it's oontnotna— it's okay to lie and it's confusing as- it's okay to lie and it's confusing as well, because as yon— confusing as well, because as yon-no-tnon- confusing as well, because as| you-.e-them-te, you're telling them not to lie, non-t—to- you're telling them not to lie, non-t—to bel don't lie. you've got to be nonoot.—noi don't lie. you've got to bei honest._he can don't lie. you've got to be- honest._he can grow honest. but maybe he can grow out honest. but maybe he can grow ontln. — honest. but maybe he can grow onoln. yon-o— honest. but maybe he can grow out-it. you're allowing- honest. but maybe he can grow out it. /:0 “3 out of it. you're allowing them

to facilities and out of it. you're allowing them to teacher facilities and out of it. you're allowing them to teacher has facilities and out of it. you're allowing them to teacher has beenlities and out of it. you're allowing them to teacher has been sacked.d the teacher has been sacked. i mean, wrong . it's wrong. mean, it's wrong. it's wrong. listen, the facilities. can't listen, the facilities. i can't agno— listen, the facilities. i can't argue against. _ listen, the facilities. i can't argue against. d e argue against. it's wrong. it's just mean, you know, just a lie. i mean, you know, you're not a man or you're not a boy. girl. is boy. you're a girl. so this is how it is. and if you can live with your as it is and with your life as it is and actually a actually understand that as as a girl, can everything that girl, you can do everything that a anyway. so whatever a boy can do anyway. so whatever you as in you are identifying is as as in it must be that you think that you do things that are more like a things like a girl. you do things more like a girl. you do things more like a then . because that's all a boy then. because that's all you that don't you know, at that age, you don't know i understand. i know enough. i understand. i think parent. an think it's a parent. it's an aduh think it's a parent. it's an adult coming over and adult mindset coming over and telling dictating this to telling you, dictating this to you you're learning it from you and you're learning it from somewhere else. you just nontonoo— somewhere else. you just mentioned the _ somewhere else. you just mentioned the .word i mentioned the key word nanontne— parenting. all this teacher had tolnao— parenting. all this teacher had tolwas inso— parenting. all this teacher had to.was just not— parenting. all this teacher had to was just not be. so if you to do was just not be. so if you uto— to do was just not be. so if you like stubborn— to do was just not be. so if you like stubborn or— to do was just not be. so if you like stubborn or intransigent, all like stubborn or intransigent, at no— like stubborn or intransigent, an no-oo— like stubborn or intransigent, an no-oo no,— like stubborn or intransigent, all he .to do, all- like stubborn or intransigent, all he to do, all she had to all he had to do, all she had to do all he had to do, all she had to oo-noton— all he had to do, all she had to oo-noton oo— all he had to do, all she had to do-refer to .lad - do was just refer to the lad as onao-o— do was just refer to the lad as mats-ono— do was just refer to the lad as that's-she-do- do was just refer to the lad as that's-she-do ,- do was just refer to the lad as that's-she-do , buti that's all she had to do, but ono— that's all she had to do, but she wouldn't— that's all she had to do, but she wouldn't have it. but if your— she wouldn't have it. but if yonn-nooon-o- she wouldn't have it. but if your doesn't permit your religion doesn't permit you. yes. you. sorry. religion. yes. well, is your own well, this. this is your own nonot— well, this. this is your own noon and— well, this. this is your own belief and your— well, this. this is your own belief and your own reality, yon— belief and your own reality, your_ - belief and your own reality, yonn— inn- belief and your own reality,| yonn— thislan your own reality. this is an aston— your own reality. this is an aspect in this particular case where christian beliefs where her christian beliefs and she because of she couldn't do it because of her beliefs. now, her christian beliefs. now, should her christian beliefs. now,l should _ protected

her christian beliefs. now,- should _ protected and should they not be protected and acknowledged? _ should they not be protected and acknowledged? 00“ should they not be protected and acknowledged? 00200 acknowledged? listen, i agree. it's acknowledged? listen, i agree. n-olano— acknowledged? listen, i agree. n-olano atoo— acknowledged? listen, i agree. it'sland also it's— acknowledged? listen, i agree. it'sland also it's very- acknowledged? listen, i agree. it'sland also it's very ,- acknowledged? 0000 it's and also it's very , very it's a and also it's very, very otonn — it's a and also it's very, very otonn n— it's a and also it's very, very otonn n to— it's a and also it's very, very storm. is it real?- it's a and also it's very, very storm. is it real? is- it's a and also it's very, very storm. 0 ”00? 0 it's a and also it's very, very storm. 0 0003” 0 0 storm. is it real? is it it's a delusion. it's a lie. i agree witn— delusion. it's a lie. i agree win yon.— delusion. it's a lie. i agree nttn yon. .— delusion. it's a lie. i agree with you. i know- 2 it's a lie. i agree with you. i know it's a lie. to— with you. i know it's a lie. to tonntty— with you. i know it's a lie. it's terribly easy— with you. i know it's a lie. it's terribly easy to - with you. i know it's a lie. it's terribly easy to .the| it's terribly easy to use the wrong pronoun . tons of people. i wrong pronoun. tons of people. i mean, i called sam smith a he. what is he a they them, even though one. i don't though he's one. i don't know what be what he was. he wants to be called they. but to me he's called a they. but to me he's a him. but he's not binary which means doesn't exist anyway. means that doesn't exist anyway. i just made i mean that's just been made up. i mean that's just been made up. . non-o— i mean that's just been made up. . anoint-ino— i mean that's just been made up. i didn't-the whole- i mean that's just been made up. i didn't the whole thing i didn't agree. the whole thing is. i didn't agree. the whole thing toloony. — i didn't agree. the whole thing is.-sorry. .listen,- is. i'm sorry. but listen, it's not.— is. i'm sorry. but listen, it's not-_t— is. i'm sorry. but listen, it's non-t non-o- not. it's not. i don't think no— not. it's not. i don't think it's transphobic, to be honest anono— it's transphobic, to be honest| anono—ano it's transphobic, to be honest- anono—ano nny about what something is and why . i about what something is and why . . ton-o— about what something is and why . . non-t ooo— about what something is and why . i don't see why— about what something is and why . i don't see why everybody ononto— . i don't see why everybody should _into - . i don't see why everybody should into delusion should enter into a delusion to go-wnn— should enter into a delusion to go with something that go along with something that ton-t— go along with something that isn't-especially- go along with something that isn't especially at that isn't real, especially at that ago. — isn't real, especially at that ago. no— isn't real, especially at that ago. to a— isn't real, especially at that age. it's a lie.— isn't real, especially at that age. it's a lie. well- isn't real, especially at that age. 0 c 0 30022 isn't real, especially at that age. 0 2 0 age. it's a lie. well the age is what makes it so disturbing when you do what you like. you get older, do what you like. but no, let's but at eight, no, but let's a nonannono— but at eight, no, but let's a department education department for education ononoonan— department for education spokesman said not department for education _ spokesman said-not comment spokesman said we do not comment on tnontonat— spokesman said we do not comment on individual cases.— spokesman said we do not comment on individual cases. the tonoaton— on individual cases. the- education _working education secretary is working otoooty— education secretary is working otoooty-ton— education secretary is working closely for minister closely with the for minister wonon— closely with the for minister wonon ano— closely with the for minister women and equalities to provide antoanoo— women and equalities to provide gnoanoo fon— women and equalities to provide guidance for schools in this area _overalll area based on the overall nnnotnto— area based on the overall nnnotnto ot— area based on the overall principle of the wellbeing and oatognaning— principle of the wellbeing and safeguarding of— principle of the wellbeing and safeguarding of children. we oooooo— safeguarding of children. we expect schools— safeguarding of children. we expect schools to carefully oonotoon— expect schools to carefully consider their—

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the break, i was now? before the break, i was atoo— now? before the break, i was also discussing— now? before the break, i was also discussing teacher also discussing how a teacher naoon-t— also discussing how a teacher waoon-t noo— also discussing how a teacher was-for not using- was sacked for not using a oonoot— was sacked for not using a school child's— was sacked for not using a school child's preferred pronouns. let's see what you've noon— pronouns. let's see what you've noon oaytna— pronouns. let's see what you've noon oaytng .— pronouns. let's see what you've been saying ,-ivan- been saying, erg ivan says, i won— been saying, erg ivan says, i won no— been saying, erg ivan says, i wish we would— been saying, erg ivan says, i wish we would please leave onionon— wish we would please leave children alone— wish we would please leave children alone .— wish we would please leave children alone . eight years old children alone. eight years old is children alone. eight years old to fan— children alone. eight years old to fan too— children alone. eight years old is far too young— children alone. eight years old is far too young to identify as anytntna— is far too young to identify as anytntna-nooo- is far too young to identify as anything-need to- is far too young to identify as anything need to go through anything they need to go through ontony— anything they need to go through nnnony, agnooo— anything they need to go through puberty, agreed luis says. my oangnoon— puberty, agreed luis says. my daughter wanted to be a boy when she daughter wanted to be a boy when ono oao— daughter wanted to be a boy when ono yonngon — daughter wanted to be a boy when she was younger. we allowed her to too— she was younger. we allowed her to onooolnoyo— she was younger. we allowed her to dress boys clothes, but to dress in boys clothes, but ono— to dress in boys clothes, but ono-ono-al to dress in boys clothes, buti she-she-a girl. to dress in boys clothes, but- she-she-a girl. in she knew that she was a girl. in her she knew that she was a girl. in non-ooono. — she knew that she was a girl. in her-teens. she— she knew that she was a girl. in her teens. she realised she her late teens. she realised she naoltoonan— her late teens. she realised she wasllesbian-that- her late teens. she realised she was lesbian that wasn't was a lesbian and that it wasn't gonoon— was a lesbian and that it wasn't gonoon nono— was a lesbian and that it wasn't gender issue, but— was a lesbian and that it wasn't gender issue, but her sexuality . non— gender issue, but her sexuality . non-yono— gender issue, but her sexuality . now-years-she's- . now 40 years old, she's happily— . now 40 years old, she's happily married to wife and happily married to her wife and loving— happily married to her wife and toting itto— happily married to her wife and loving life. exactly. that's the tning. — loving life. exactly. that's the tning. inat-o— loving life. exactly. that's the thing. that's the— loving life. exactly. that's the thing. that's the point. i nantot— thing. that's the point. i nantot to— thing. that's the point. i wanted to be— thing. that's the point. i wanted to be a boy. i used to try ant—

wanted to be a boy. i used to try ant go— wanted to be a boy. i used to try ant go to— wanted to be a boy. i used to try and go to the— wanted to be a boy. i used to try and go to the toilet otanting— try and go to the toilet otanting no.- try and go to the toilet standing up. did i say that out onto— standing up. did i say that out loud?-j0kin9-_ standing up. did i say that out loud? joking. joking. loud? i'm joking. half joking. it's loud? i'm joking. half joking. it-o-non.— loud? i'm joking. half joking. it-o-non. tn— loud? i'm joking. half joking. it's-now. i'm not,- it's time now. i'm not, aotnaity— it's time now. i'm not, actually-time- it's time now. i'm not, actually. time for it's time now. i'm not, actually.-time for great actually. it's time for a great ntition— british debate. this was just a tomboy.— british debate. this was just a tontoylaoting— british debate. this was just a tomboy.-asking ,- british debate. this was just a tomboy. asking , is the keir tomboy. i'm asking, is the keir statnot— tomboy. i'm asking, is the keir statnot trying— tomboy. i'm asking, is the keir starmer trying-rig- tomboy. i'm asking, is the keir starmer trying rig future starmer trying to rig future oiootiono— starmer trying to rig future- elections—policy elections now? a leaked policy toonnont— elections now? a leaked policy document hints— elections now? a leaked policy document hints labour plans document hints that labour plans to expand— document hints that labour plans to expand tno— document hints that labour plans to expand the vote— document hints that labour plans to expand the vote to over 3.4 niiiion— to expand the vote to over 3.4 nittion iti— to expand the vote to over 3.4 million eu nationals who pay tax , ao woit— million eu nationals who pay tax , ao noii ao— million eu nationals who pay tax , as well as introducing votes for , as well as introducing votes ton to— , as well as introducing votes to to ant— , as well as introducing votes to to ant ii— , as well as introducing votes for 16 and 17 year— , as well as introducing votes for 16 and 17 year olds. such moves could— for 16 and 17 year olds. such moves could increase the otoototato— moves could increase the electorate by— moves could increase the electorate by up to 6 million ototo— electorate by up to 6 million ototo ton— electorate by up to 6 million voters. now that's an 8% rise on the voters. now that's an 8% rise on too nnont— voters. now that's an 8% rise on the current figures— voters. now that's an 8% rise on the current figures .— voters. now that's an 8% rise on the current figures . critics the current figures. critics navo— the current figures. critics have accused _ the current figures. critics have accused starmer of trying to tig— have accused starmer of trying to tig tntnto— have accused starmer of trying to rig future elections by enfranchising— to rig future elections by enfranchising a large group of pro—nonnati— enfranchising a large group of pro—remain left— enfranchising a large group of pro—remain left leaning voters, all pro—remain left leaning voters, at ot— pro—remain left leaning voters, at ot nnon— pro—remain left leaning voters, all of whom would be inclined to tog-oin— all of whom would be inclined to toioin tno— all of whom would be inclined to toioin too in— all of whom would be inclined to rejoin the eu in— all of whom would be inclined to rejoin the eu in any— all of whom would be inclined to rejoin the eu in any further referendum.— rejoin the eu in any further referendum. and this move could be referendum. and this move could to totaotating— referendum. and this move could be devastating for— referendum. and this move could be devastating for the conservatives and unseat many ntoninont— conservatives and unseat many otoninont tony— conservatives and unseat many prominent tory mps. so the great ntition— prominent tory mps. so the great british debate— prominent tory mps. so the great british debate this— prominent tory mps. so the great british debate this hour. i'm aoting— british debate this hour. i'm aoting yon,— british debate this hour. i'm aoting yon, oin— british debate this hour. i'm asking you, sir keir starmer, trying— asking you, sir keir starmer, trying to— asking you, sir keir starmer, trying to tig— asking you, sir keir starmer, trying to rig future elections. wot,— trying to rig future elections. wot-no— trying to rig future elections. well,-me now- trying to rig future elections. well,-me now to- trying to rig future elections. well, me now to discuss, well, joining me now to discuss, navit— well, joining me now to discuss, oatit inton— well, joining me now to discuss, david kurten, leader of the totitago— david kurten, leader of the heritage party,— david kurten, leader of the heritage party, jess gill, totitioai— heritage party, jess gill, political commentator matthew political commentator. matthew stontiant— stoutland, a political commentator, and james

matthewson, _ commentator, and james- matthewson,-labour matthewson, a former labour party— matthewson, a former labour party spokesperson. i'm going to otatt— party spokesperson. i'm going to otatt witn— party spokesperson. i'm going to otatt nitn yon,— party spokesperson. i'm going to start with you, james mathewson . wnat— start with you, james mathewson . wnat to— start with you, james mathewson . wnat to yon— start with you, james mathewson . what do you think? is he trying— . what do you think? is he trying to— . what do you think? is he trying to tig— . what do you think? is he trying to rig it_ . what do you think? is he trying to rig it ?- . what do you think? is he trying to rig it? no, i don't tnint— trying to rig it? no, i don't tnint oo— trying to rig it? no, i don't tnint — trying to rig it? no, i don't tnint i— trying to rig it? no, i don't think so. i don't- trying to rig it? no, i don't think so. 20“ 0 0“i0”t0 think so. i don't think there's any rigging going on. i think it's i think it's similar in the fact that these people should have the vote have been able to have the vote before i think it's before now. and i think it's just case of bringing up just a case of bringing this up to mean, labour to speed. i mean, the labour party change many party are going to change many things get into things when they get into government going government and there's going to be things that many people don't like, those with like, especially those with conservative and there's conservative views. and there's going to be things brought up to speed haven't been brought speed that haven't been brought up to speed years because up to speed for 13 years because we've a 30 years of tory we've had a 30 years of tory government. so it's bound to be issues up. but issues as they come up. but i think it's only fair to extend those especially when those rights to especially when we're looking at 16, 17 year olds across the board olds as well across the board when it comes to voting rights , when it comes to voting rights, let alone citizens as let alone just eu citizens as well. you're sort of bagging tnio— well. you're sort of bagging tnio in— well. you're sort of bagging tnio in witn— well. you're sort of bagging this in with all— you're sort of bagging this in with all the other stuff as this in with all the other stuff ao it— this in with all the other stuff ao it to— this in with all the other stuff ao it to on— this in with all the other stuff as if it's, oh, it's— this in with all the other stuff as if it's, oh, it's nothing. to— as if it's, oh, it's nothing. to not— as if it's, oh, it's nothing. to inot ono— as if it's, oh, it's nothing. it's just one of- as if it's, oh, it's nothing. it's just one of the other tningo.— it's just one of the other tningo. ont— it's just one of the other things. but it— it's just one of the other things. but it will significantly the significantly increase the electorate. _ electorate. and it is arguable tnat— electorate. and it is arguable that actually— electorate. and it is arguable that actually the _ electorate. and it is arguable that actually the people that witt— that actually the people that will .entitled _ that actually the people that will .entitled to - that actually the people that will entitled to vote are will be entitled to vote are

tott— will be entitled to vote are more left leaning. let's go to too— more left leaning. let's go to iooo ott— more left leaning. let's go to jess gill. she's— more left leaning. let's go to jess gill. she's a— more left leaning. let's go to jess gill. she's a political commentator. _ jess gill. she's a political commentator. jess, i mean, nana is commentator. jess, i mean, nana to coat— commentator. jess, i mean, nana io otoat to— commentator. jess, i mean, nana io otoat to no— commentator. jess, i mean, nana is clear to me that— commentator. jess, i mean, nana is clear to me that slimy statnot— is clear to me that slimy starmer clearly doesn't care atont— starmer clearly doesn't care atont tno — starmer clearly doesn't care about the british people. 0 about the british people. it's a ttatant— about the british people. it's a blatant attempt— about the british people. it's a blatant attempt to _ about the british people. it's a blatant attempt to hand our democracy back to the eu in order to win votes and bring us back to the eu. and it's completely diluting the voice of the british people . starmer the british people. starmer clearly doesn't represent the british people, and i don't think he's trying to by this move wouldn't seem so. matthew stadlen move wouldn't seem so. matthew station voan— move wouldn't seem so. matthew station voan i— move wouldn't seem so. matthew stadlen yeah, i haven't— 2“ 0 matthew stadlen yeah, i haven't seen any otitonoo— stadlen yeah, i haven't seen any ovitonoo ot— stadlen yeah, i haven't seen any evidence of keir— stadlen yeah, i haven't seen any evidence of keir starmer being oiiny— evidence of keir starmer being oiiny on— evidence of keir starmer being otiny on tnio. — evidence of keir starmer being slimy on this. i— evidence of keir starmer being slimy on this. i think i disagree with him. just be very straightforward. i think if you vote in a british election, you should be a british citizen. i understand there's an exemption for irish citizens. that's fine. but i don't think we should be extending the franchise in this country people who are country to people who are settled here have a right to settled here who have a right to be but have chosen not to be here, but have chosen not to take up british citizenship. that's . it seems an odd that's my view. it seems an odd tning— that's my view. it seems an odd tninglnin — that's my view. it seems an odd tninglninlto.— that's my view. it seems an odd thing-himldo. david- . it seems an odd thing him do. david don't thing for him to do. david don't you— thing for him to do. david don't yon-no— thing for him to do. david don't yon-no-to- thing for him to do. david don't. yon-no-to tnato you think that he would do that? i you think that he would do that? i-no-o— you think that he would do that? i-no-o-anoat. - you think that he would do that? i-he's-ahead. why. you think that he would do that? i he's ahead. why is i mean, he's polls ahead. why is he—tms— i mean, he's polls ahead. why is he _this nonsensei he bothering with this nonsense 7 _m-

he bothering with this nonsensei 7 _sutlmean, he bothering with this nonsensei 7 he_butimean, he bothering with this nonsensei .7 he wins,-butlmean, he bothering with this nonsensei .7 he wins, then-but. mean, he bothering with this nonsense if he wins, then he's going to do this. seems , and then do this. it seems, and then he's going change the electoral going to change the electoral system forever in terms of who can vote. so there will be 6 million new people, like you said. so most of them voting for laboun said. so most of them voting for labour, voting to go back in the eu. i think some of the people actually have the plan to say, okay, we'll wait for like ten years or 12 years after the referendum in 2016, then in a new starmer term have another referendum. he'll get those people on the books to vote . people on the books to vote. then he'll have a second referendum and take us back into the eu. i'm very, very worried about that and this needs to be called out from the very beginning. well, james, it seems alsumy— beginning. well, james, it seems alsumy for— beginning. well, james, it seems alsumy forlto— beginning. well, james, it seems a.slimy forlto be.- beginning. well, james, it seems a.slimy forlto be. if- beginning. well, james, it seems a.slimy forlto be. if it- a bit slimy for it to be. if it was inserted— a bit slimy for it to be. if it was inserted somewhere, would a bit slimy for it to be. if it wa in1serted somewhere, would a bit slimy for it to be. if it wain1s7manifesto.where, would a bit slimy for it to be. if it wa in 1s7manifesto. therefore,rould be in a manifesto. therefore, there-s— be in a manifesto. therefore, there's referendum . so then there's no referendum. so then ifldoes— there's no referendum. so then ifldoes get— there's no referendum. so then ifldoes get in,— there's no referendum. so then if.does get in, he- there's no referendum. so then if does get in, he said, if he does get in, he said, wen,— if he does get in, he said, well, i well, it's in my manifesto. i mean,-so people- well, it's in my manifesto. i mean, so people would this mean, and so people would this is something— mean, and so people would this is something that— mean, and so people would this is something that would change the—surety- is something that would change the—surely this- is something that would change the—surely this is. the way we vote. surely this is quite— the way we vote. surely this is quite .— the way we vote. surely this is quite a this— the way we vote. surely this is quite u this te— the way we vote. surely this is quite a this is a— the way we vote. surely this is quite a this is a fundamental ttiuq— quite a this is a fundamental ttiuq titt— quite a this is a fundamental thing that british public thing that the british public eteuit— thing that the british public should consulted thing that the british public- should _consulted on. should actually be consulted on. iieteu—

should actually be consulted on. listen,.course,_ should actually be consulted on. listen,.course, it— should actually be consulted on. listen, course, it would be listen, of course, it would be stimu— listen, of course, it would be eiimu it— listen, of course, it would be eiimu it it— listen, of course, it would be slimy if it was— listen, of course, it would be slimy if it was about a second teteieutum— slimy if it was about a second referendum or— slimy if it was about a second referendum or or— slimy if it was about a second referendum or or revisit in brexit— referendum or or revisit in brexit in— referendum or or revisit in brexit in any— referendum or or revisit in brexit in any way, shape or form . tut— brexit in any way, shape or form . tut its— brexit in any way, shape or form . but it's absolutely- brexit in any way, shape or form . but it's absolutely not- brexit in any way, shape or form . but it's absolutely not about that there's the that. there's nobody in the labour spoken to labour party who have spoken to on any wing faction, on any any wing faction, wherever in the labour party who wants to revisit brexit. i don't think there's anybody in the country who wants to revisit brexit, let alone in the labour party. interest party. it's in nobody's interest to behind us. and to do so. it's behind us. and i think even keir starmer, you know, who was one of the most vocal , you know, know, who was one of the most vocal, you know, remain people in country , has any interest in the country, has any interest in the country, has any interest in revisiting that debate because there's nothing good in it for the labour party, to be honest. but what about the honest. but but what about the notion— honest. but but what about the notion-tee— honest. but but what about the notion-he's putting- notion that he's putting it in a muniteete— notion that he's putting it in a manifesto-avoids. manifesto so that it avoids a teteieutum— manifesto so that it avoids a referendum on— manifesto so that it avoids a referendum on the issue of him invitiuq— referendum on the issue of him inviting-neu— referendum on the issue of him inviting new people into inviting these new people into twe— inviting these new people into two sett— inviting these new people into two eeit et— inviting these new people into two sort of electoral system .7 two sort of electoral system? wett— two sort of electoral system? wet, yeti,— two sort of electoral system? well, yeah, but— two sort of electoral system? well, yeah, but you've got to remember labour still, we're a very— remember labour still, we're a very tittieuit— remember labour still, we're a very difficult coalition of teete— very difficult coalition of vetete te— very difficult coalition of voters to bring together and only— voters to bring together and qty iuet— voters to bring together and we've only just managed to get that— we've only just managed to get that teet— we've only just managed to get that back when— we've only just managed to get that back when it— we've only just managed to get that back when it was, you know, tueieuiiu— that back when it was, you know, basically destroyed _ that back when it was, you know, basically destroyed 2017, 2019. it's basically destroyed 2017, 2019. its teen— basically destroyed 2017, 2019. its teen vett— basically destroyed 2017, 2019. it's been very difficult- basically destroyed 2017, 2019. it's been very difficult to- basically destroyed 2017, 2019.

it's been very difficult to try and cobble that coalition back together and get working class communities like the one that i'm from in the north—east of england back and their england back and get their trust back way back after, you know, the way that the party behaved over brexit and over issues like brexit. so it's not something that i don't see ever revisiting, whether it's in a referendum , whether it's in a referendum, whether it's in a manifesto not. and i've manifesto or not. and i've always referenda, i don't think that case. that would be the case. and obviously it is a obviously with this, it is a policy proposal . it's something policy proposal. it's something that's been investigated and it's something that's been researched. haven't even got researched. we haven't even got any solid proposal yet any proper solid proposal yet from the labour party on what the price surprise . jess i want the price surprise. jess i want to bring— the price surprise. jess i want to bring you— the price surprise. jess i want to bring you in.— the price surprise. jess i want to bring you in. jess- the price surprise. jess i want to bring you in. jess do- cit; jess i want to bring you in. jess do you tint— to bring you in. jess do you think that— to bring you in. jess do you think that this— to bring you in. jess do you think that this is quite foolish uetuuiiu— think that this is quite foolish uetuuiiu tet— think that this is quite foolish actually for sir— think that this is quite foolish actually for sir keir starmer to be actually for sir keir starmer to te uetuuiiu— actually for sir keir starmer to be actually putting that in there— be actually putting that in there unt— be actually putting that in there and that— be actually putting that in there and that he's actually mieieutiuq— there and that he's actually misreading the— there and that he's actually misreading the electorate with that— misreading the electorate with that 7 — misreading the electorate with ttut 7 i— misreading the electorate with that ? i mean,— misreading the electorate with that ? i mean, i'm- misreading the electorate with that ? " t: that? i mean, i'm quite sure he's already backtracked on it, which is quite typical of starmer . i which is quite typical of starmer. i think you just have to at incentives . starmer to look at incentives. starmer doesn't about and doesn't doesn't care about and doesn't try to appeal to the working class people. doesn't try to class people. he doesn't try to appeal to the core voters of

britain . so he has to do this. britain. so he has to do this. he to. you know, extend the he has to. you know, extend the franchise to the people, to eu nationals, even though should they really be given a vote in this country when they don't have the same stakes as british people. what do you think, iiuttteu— people. what do you think, iiuttiteu 7 — people. what do you think, matthew 7 no,— people. what do you think, matthew 7 no, i- what do you think, matthew ? \tt:::t "

should be able to vote in this country unless you are a citizen of just think to of britain. but i just think to say just for a bit of balance, because nobody much is supporting side , that supporting the other side, that these 3 million eu citizens are contributing in enormous ways to our society . they are our society. they are contributing to the job market, they're in taxes contributing to the job market, they so in taxes contributing to the job market, they so forth in taxes contributing to the job market, they so forth . in taxes contributing to the job market, they so forth . so in taxes contributing to the job market, theyso forth . so i in taxes contributing to the job market, they so forth . so i can taxes contributing to the job market, theyso forth . so i can see s contributing to the job market, they so forth . so i can see that and so forth. so i can see that some people might reasonably expect them to have a say as to how the country is run. i just happen to disagree with it. david. don't think that eu david. i don't think that eu citizens should given the citizens should be given the vote in national elections in the because citizens the uk because british citizens don't have the vote in eu countries in their national elections. they countries in their national elections . they don't even have elections. they don't even have the vote— elections. they don't even have the vote in— elections. they don't even have the vote in local— f they don't even have the vote in local elections in te— the vote in local elections in the-countries— the vote in local elections in the countries anymore. if the eu countries anymore. if they-te— the eu countries anymore. if they're resident— the eu countries anymore. if they're resident because they're resident there because of they're resident there because etliuiiuq— they're resident there because etliuiiuqltte— they're resident there because oflrulingithe ecj- they're resident there because of ruling the ecj last year of a ruling by the ecj last year . tut— of a ruling by the ecj last year . but what— of a ruling by the ecj last year . but what i— of a ruling by the ecj last year . but what i would— of a ruling by the ecj last year . but what i would say on the peeeitiiitu— . but what i would say on the peeeititity et— . but what i would say on the possibility of getting these peepie— possibility of getting these peeqte en — possibility of getting these peeqte en te — possibility of getting these people on to the electorate and then— people on to the electorate and then tuuiuq— people on to the electorate and then tuuiuq u— people on to the electorate and then having a referendum is teee— then having a referendum is teweie teit— then having a referendum is beware, bait and switch. the conservatives— beware, bait and switch. the conservatives do _ beware, bait and switch. the conservatives do it, the labour tees— conservatives do it, the labour teee it.— conservatives do it, the labour teee it. you— conservatives do it, the labour does it. you would— conservatives do it, the labour does it. you would probably twitt— does it. you would probably think ttet— does it. you would probably think that the— does it. you would probably think that the lib dems might do this ee— think that the lib dems might do this ee weii. — think that the lib dems might do this as well. they— think that the lib dems might do this as well. they say, oh, we're not going- this as well. they say, oh, we're not going to do something

when— we're not going to do something when ttew-ie — we're not going to do something when they're power and then when they're in power and then they— when they're in power and then thew-remit— when they're in power and then thew-remit .- when they're in power and then they-remit . they- when they're in power and then they remit . they might they have the remit. they might not te— they have the remit. they might not be in— they have the remit. they might not be in te— they have the remit. they might not be in the manifesto , but not be in the manifesto, but thew— not be in the manifesto, but thew-etiiitw- not be in the manifesto, but they-ability to- they have the ability to introduce _ they have the ability to introduce something into parliament,— introduce something into parliament, whether it's in thei— parliament, whether it's in their manifesto— parliament, whether it's in their manifesto or not. and twee-e— their manifesto or not. and twee-eliet— their manifesto or not. and there'sllot of— their manifesto or not. and there's lot of people there's a lot of people associated— there's a lot of people associated with the labour party eeeeeietet— associated with the labour party associated with _ associated with the labour party associated with their potential eiiiee— associated with their potential eiiiee in— associated with their potential eiiiee in te— associated with their potential allies in the lib _ associated with their potential allies in the lib dems who would went— allies in the lib dems who would weut et— allies in the lib dems who would weut et e— allies in the lib dems who would want at a second— allies in the lib dems who would want at a second referendum ettei— want at a second referendum ettei e— want at a second referendum after a certain— want at a second referendum after a certain period of time. so after a certain period of time. so tewee— after a certain period of time. so beware there— after a certain period of time. so beware there and look very, wew— so beware there and look very, wew eetetuiiw— so beware there and look very, very carefully at— so beware there and look very, very carefully at what you're qettinq. — very carefully at what you're qettiqq. iteqt— very carefully at what you're getting. thank you very much. itet-e— getting. thank you very much. itet-t tewe— getting. thank you very much. that's david kirton.— getting. thank you very much. that's david kirton. he's- getting. thank you very much. that's david kirton. he's a- that's david kirton. he's a leader of the heritage party. jess gill, political commentator matthew stadlen, political matthew stadlen, a political commentator, and james matthewson labour commentator, and james matti spokesperson labour commentator, and james mattrspokesperson. labour commentator, and james matti spokesperson . well, our commentator, and james matti spokesperson . well, you're party spokesperson. well, you're with me. i'm nana akua . this is with me. i'm nana akua. this is gb on tv online and on gb news on tv online and on digital radio. we are the people's channel. don't forget you gb news app you can download the gb news app and programmes on and watch all the programmes on the now after the the channel three. now after the break, we'll continue with the great hour. great british debate this hour. and sir keir and i'm asking is sir keir starmer trying to rig future elections ? you'll hear the elections? you'll hear the thoughts of my panel broadcaster and hamilton. and author christine hamilton. also broadcaster and journalist danny kelly. but first, let's get headlines .

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tewe— hadn't covered itself in glory since boris johnson's leadership . tut— since boris johnson's leadership . tut ieteui— since boris johnson's leadership . but labour says— since boris johnson's leadership . but labour says it has a plan to eeete— . but labour says it has a plan to create 80,000— . but labour says it has a plan to create 80,000 new jobs in the car to create 80,000 new jobs in the iwtuetw— to create 80,000 new jobs in the iwtuetw .— to create 80,000 new jobs in the car industry . partly— to create 80,000 new jobs in the car industry . partly financed, car industry. partly financed, tiweweet— car industry. partly financed, financed eight— car industry. partly financed, financed eight factories if it wiwe— financed eight factories if it twe— financed eight factories if it wins the election . it'll also wins the election. it'll also wett— wins the election. it'll also tett tower— wins the election. it'll also help power nearly 2 million eieettie— help power nearly 2 million electric vehicles— help power nearly 2 million electric vehicles . the party electric vehicles. the party eewe— electric vehicles. the party eewe twe— electric vehicles. the party says the proposal will see the weet— says the proposal will see the west midlands— says the proposal will see the west midlands benefit from 78,000— west midlands benefit from 78,000 tote— west midlands benefit from 28,000 jobs and 11,000 roles witt— 28,000 jobs and 11,000 roles wiii te— 28,000 jobs and 11,000 roles will be created— 28,000 jobs and 11,000 roles will be created in— 28,000 jobs and 11,000 roles will be created in the north—west- will be created in the north—west .- will be created in the north—west . and countings north—west. and countings uwteewew— north—west. and countings uwtetwew tw— north—west. and countings underway in turkey to establish wie— underway in turkey to establish wte witt— underway in turkey to establish wte wiii te— underway in turkey to establish who will be the _ underway in turkey to establish who will be the country's next teeter— who will be the country's next teeter .— who will be the country's next leader . voters— who will be the country's next leader . voters have been leader. voters have been teeitiwq— leader. voters have been teeitiwq ew— leader. voters have been deciding on whether president tiwew— deciding on whether president itteqew, wte-e— deciding on whether president erdogan, who's been in power for 20 erdogan, who's been in power for 70 weee— erdogan, who's been in power for 20 years, should— erdogan, who's been in power for 20 years, should be— erdogan, who's been in power for 20 years, should be re—elected. etiwiew— 20 years, should be re—elected. otiwiew totte— 20 years, should be re—elected. opinion polls ahead of the teiiet— opinion polls ahead of the teitet qewe— opinion polls ahead of the ballot gave his— opinion polls ahead of the ballot gave his main rival, tewei— ballot gave his main rival, kemal kilicdaroglu, a slight teet— kemal kilicdaroglu, a slight teet ewt— kemal kilicdaroglu, a slight teet ewt e— kemal kilicdaroglu, a slight lead and a clearer indication of the wet— lead and a clearer indication of the first round— lead and a clearer indication of the first round result is expeetet— the first round result is expected. this evening . tv expected. this evening. tv twiiwe— expected. this evening. tv online dab+— expected. this evening. tv online dab+ radio and on tune in. wie— online dab+ radio and on tune in. itie ie— online dab+ radio and on tune in. itie ie et— online dab+ radio and on tune in. this is gb news. now it's teet— in. this is gb news. now it's teet te— in. this is gb news. now it's back to nana— in. this is gb news. now it's

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meets only on gb news britain's news . channel _ meets only on gb news britain's news . channel e: news. channel hello, good afternoon. and welcome to gb news on tv online and on digital radio. i'm nana akua . you can radio. i'm nana akua. you can also stream the show live on youtube. now it's time for the great british debate this hour. and i'm asking, is sir keir

starmer trying to rig future elections now? leaked documents show that labour plans to allow millions of eu nationals to vote, as well as introducing voting for 16 and 17 year olds. now the changes could increase the electorate up to 6 the electorate by up to 6 million voters. yes, that is an 8% increase on the current figures. critics have assumed that accused starmer of trying to rig future elections by allowing a group of largely pro—remain left wing people all leaning, even leftwing people , leaning, even leftwing people, to vote. now, the move could be devastating to the conservatives and unseat many of them. so for the great british debate this houn the great british debate this hour, i'm asking isaac starmer the great british debate this hour, ito asking isaac starmer the great british debate this hour, ito rig

far as i'm concerned. i mean, if we-ue it ewe— far as i'm concerned. i mean, if you're 16 and 17,— far as i'm concerned. i mean, if you're 16 and 17, you can't buy eiqeiettee— you're 16 and 17, you can't buy eiqetettee us— you're 16 and 17, you can't buy cigarettes us you— you're 16 and 17, you can't buy cigarettes us you can't buy teteeee— cigarettes us you can't buy teteeee, weu — cigarettes us you can't buy tobacco, you can't even buy so cigarettes us you can't buy tobac(asyou can't even buy so cigarettes us you can't buy tobac(as atu can't even buy so cigarettes us you can't buy tobac(as a cigarette ven buy so cigarettes us you can't buy tobac(as a cigarette lighter so cigarettes us you can't buy tobac(as a cigarette lighter .;o cigarettes us you can't buy tobac(as a cigarette lighter . why much as a cigarette lighter. why eteuit— much as a cigarette lighter. why should _entitled - much as a cigarette lighter. why should _entitled to - much as a cigarette lighter. why should entitled to vote ? should you be entitled to vote? i should you be entitled to vote? i eew-t— should you be entitled to vote? i tew-t teei— should you be entitled to vote? i don't feel that— should you be entitled to vote? i don't feel that people are 16 ewe— i don't feel that people are 16 ewt i7— i don't feel that people are 16 ewt i7. wew-te— i don't feel that people are 16 and 17. they're young , they're and 17. they're young, they're iteeiietie. — and 17. they're young, they're idealistic. they're— and 17. they're young, they're idealistic. they're possibly iiteiw— idealistic. they're possibly more likely to _ idealistic. they're possibly more likely to vote labour. but, you— more likely to vote labour. but, weu—teuweel more likely to vote labour. but,. you—bounce back you know, this could bounce back at you know, this could bounce back et—ttew— you know, this could bounce back et—ttew wew- you know, this could bounce backi et—ttew wew-ewew at him because they may be even iiteiw— at him because they may be even iiteiw te— at him because they may be even more likely to vote.— at him because they may be even more likely to vote. sort of green— more likely to vote. sort of gen et— more likely to vote. sort of green eet-et— more likely to vote. sort of green or of greta thunberg green or sort of greta thunberg ish green or sort of greta thunberg iet ei— green or sort of greta thunberg iet ei te— green or sort of greta thunberg iet or to we— green or sort of greta thunberg ish or to one of— green or sort of greta thunberg ish or to one of these smaller tettiee— ish or to one of these smaller tewiee. se— ish or to one of these smaller tewiee. se wew— ish or to one of these smaller parties. so they not parties. so they may not automatically- parties. so they may not automatically fall into labour's iet.— automatically fall into labour's iet. tut— automatically fall into labour's iet. tut i— automatically fall into labour's lap. but i think— automatically fall into labour's lap. but i think i— automatically fall into labour's lap. but i think i really do think— lap. but i think i really do. ttiwt—ite think it's totally wrong. the tittiew — think it's totally wrong. the tittiew .tte- think it's totally wrong. the problem the labour have is problem with the labour have is wet— problem with the labour have is ttet-wequ— problem with the labour have is ttet-wequ ,— problem with the labour have is that-young , while- problem with the labour have is that young , while they're that the young, while they're wew— that the young, while they're very—idealistic- very young and idealistic eteetete— very young and idealistic etcetera, people tend be more etcetera, people tend to be more left etcetera, people tend to be more iet-,— etcetera, people tend to be more iett-, tut— etcetera, people tend to be more iett-, tut ttew- etcetera, people tend to be more left , but then reality etcetera, people tend to be more left them , but then reality etcetera, people tend to be more left them responsiblei reality etcetera, people tend to be more left them responsible mottyy etcetera, people tend to be more left them responsible motty hits hits them responsible motty hits ttew. — hits them responsible motty hits them. realism— hits them responsible motty hits them. realism suddenly. oh my qeetweee— them. realism suddenly. oh my qeetweee. awe— them. realism suddenly. oh my goodness. and they become much tiqit— goodness. and they become much tiqtt wiwq— goodness. and they become much more right wing when they have to qtettie— more right wing when they have to qtettte witt— more right wing when they have to grapple with with the teeiitiee— to grapple with with the realities-life.- to grapple with with the realities life. and it's not. realities of life. and it's not. we— realities of life. and it's not. we weuit— realities of life. and it's not. we weuit te— realities of life. and it's not. we would be the— realities of life. and it's not. we would be the only country. wett— we would be the only country. wet it— we would be the only country. wet it eew— we would be the only country. well i'd say the— we would be the only country. well i'd say the only about the eww— well i'd say the only about the only eeuwtw— well i'd say the only about the only eeuwtw tw— well i'd say the only about the only country in europe to do ttie— only country in europe to do this-european- this. the other european euwtiee— this. the other european countries don't do it. so why why— countries don't do it. so why why eteuit— countries don't do it. so why why should should we do it why should why should we do it ewt— why should why should we do it awe-tet— why should why should we do it and-for example- why should why should we do it and-for example ,- why should why should we do it and for example , if he's and why, for example, if he's going— and why, for example, if he's going te— and why, for example, if he's going to te— and why, for example, if he's going to do that,— and why, for example, if he's going to do that, why doesn't he and why, for example, if he's gointthe do that, why doesn't he and why, for example, if he's gointthe do tito , why doesn't he and why, for example, if he's gointthe do tito the iy doesn't he and why, for example, if he's gointthe do tito the expatsn't he give the vote to the expats

iiwiwq — give the vote to the expats iiwiwq tw— give the vote to the expats living in spain,— give the vote to the expats living in spain, for example? wet— living in spain, for example? itet ie— living in spain, for example? itet ie twe— living in spain, for example? that is the other— living in spain, for example? that is the other side of the same coin. so— that is the other side of the same coin. so if— that is the other side of the same coin. so if he's going to qwe— same coin. so if he's going to qiwe-iiwiwq-tel give it to the living here, he eteuit— give it to the living here, he eteuit qwe— give it to the living here, he should give it— give it to the living here, he should give it to— give it to the living here, he should give it to the brits iiwiwq— should give it to the brits living abroad.— should give it to the brits living abroad. he won't do living abroad. but he won't do ma,— living abroad. but he won't do that,-because- living abroad. but he won't do that, because they're living abroad. but he won't do that, likely because they're living abroad. but he won't do that, likely to because they're living abroad. but he won't do that, likely to vote.ause they're living abroad. but he won't do that, likely to vote. torythey're more likely to vote. tory i think— more likely to vote. tory i think-awful- more likely to vote. tory i. think-awful-and think it's an awful idea and ite— think it's an awful idea and it-e-iettw— think it's an awful idea and it's lefty governments it's only lefty governments or iettw—ttwwl lefty parties that ever throw ttie— lefty parties that ever throw ttiel — lefty parties that ever throw this-. .know,- lefty parties that ever throw. this-. .know,-and this out. you know, snp and nicola sturgeon wanted 16 and 17 year olds. as far as the eu thing is concerned, i mean, we're we're assuming that 3.4 million eu citizens who've got settled status are more likely to be lefty remainers . that's to be lefty remainers. that's what we're assuming . to be lefty remainers. that's what we're assuming. i'm to be lefty remainers. that's what we're assuming . i'm sure what we're assuming. i'm sure that they're very pro european, though, because they've, if you like, benefited . well, he's like, benefited. well, he's a pro like, benefited. well, he's a tie twentie— like, benefited. well, he's a pro europhile. listen- e tilt: well, he's a pro europhile. listen so, so wet-e— pro europhile. listen so, so ttet-e twe— pro europhile. listen so, so that's the thing— pro europhile. listen so, so that's the thing . so he's more that's the thing. so he's more iiteiw— that's the thing. so he's more iiteiw. wew-ie— that's the thing. so he's more likely. they're more likely to vete— likely. they're more likely to vote tet— likely. they're more likely to vote for him _ likely. they're more likely to vote for him aren't they . my, vote for him aren't they. they tewew-t— vote for him aren't they. they went weee— vote for him aren't they. they haven't made the— vote for him aren't they. they haven't made the settled status . they haven't made the commitment citizens . and commitment to be citizens. and if you haven't made the commitment a commitment to be a citizen of a country, see you country, i don't see why you should vote. so there should be able to vote. so there is difference to be. there's is a difference to be. there's a tittetenee— is a difference to be. there's a difference, yes. _ is a difference to be. there's a difference, yes. okay. so the citizenship . you citizenship is citizenship. you have the right. and so you've got passport. exactly. got a british passport. exactly. you've to be

you've made the commitment to be a this community. a real part of this community. well, maybe we'll call it thinks eeiiw— well, maybe we'll call it thinks eeiiw eewt— well, maybe we'll call it thinks eeiiw eewt e— well, maybe we'll call it thinks colin sent a message, said, i teiiewe— colin sent a message, said, i believe-should- colin sent a message, said, i believe should an colin sent a message, said, i- believe-should-an exam believe they should pass an exam wuet— believe they should pass an exam wuet-twwiwq— believe they should pass an exam much-driving test- believe they should pass an exam much driving test before much like a driving test before you— much like a driving test before you eew— much like a driving test before you tewe— much like a driving test before you can have the— much like a driving test before you can have the right to vote. if you can have the right to vote. it-ewiw— you can have the right to vote. it-ewiw-twwei you can have the right to vote.| it-ewiw-twwe e if you if only you could prove a teete— if you if only you could prove a basic understanding the basic understanding of the constitution— basic understanding of the constitution so you constitution or monarchy. so you do constitution or monarchy. so you tie-teee— constitution or monarchy. so you tie-teee eew— constitution or monarchy. so you tie-teee te- do have to pass exam to take citizenship, you have citizenship, don't you? you have to horrendous to answer some horrendous questions. you it's questions. you laugh. it's teeiiw— questions. you laugh. it's really hard. _ questions. you laugh. it's really hard. idon't- : you laugh. it's really hard. t:t:::t“ e really hard. i don't think i would that exam. i don't would pass that exam. i don't think everybody— think everybody would pass. coutu— think everybody would pass. eewt-eut- think everybody would pass. could _outlthe. could be thrown out of the country. so as the 16 and country. so as far as the 16 and 17 year olds, you're right, people sort people are idealistic. that sort of age, tricia said. tricia said, i if i was- of age, tricia said. tricia said, i if i was to- of age, tricia said. tricia said, i if i was to go- g 1 it t: tricia said, i if i was to go to live in eieeee— said, i if i was to go to live in greece, italy,— said, i if i was to go to live in greece, italy, france or even ewettei— in greece, italy, france or even ewettei eeuwtw— in greece, italy, france or even another country, including aweeiee— another country, including america, even,— another country, including america, even, even if i pay tax weee,— america, even, even if i pay tax were, i— america, even, even if i pay tax were, i weuit— america, even, even if i pay tax there, i would not— america, even, even if i pay tax there, i would not be allowed to vete— there, i would not be allowed to vote tw— there, i would not be allowed to vote in their— there, i would not be allowed to vote in their elections. stittew— vote in their elections. slippery-to- vote in their elections. slippery to make vote in their elections. - slippery-to make to keep gerrymandering to make to keep ieteui— gerrymandering to make to keep ieteui tw— gerrymandering to make to keep labour in power— gerrymandering to make to keep labour in power as— gerrymandering to make to keep labour in power as those he tiewe— labour in power as those he tiewe te— labour in power as those he tiewe te-e— labour in power as those he plans to-a vote- labour in power as those he plans to a vote to 16 year plans to give a vote to 16 year tite— plans to give a vote to 16 year eite ewt— plans to give a vote to 16 year olds and left— plans to give a vote to 16 year olds and left wing— plans to give a vote to 16 year olds and left wing until they grew— olds and left wing until they grew up-_ olds and left wing until they grew up. weet— olds and left wing until they grow up. yeah, that's what you eeit. — grow up. yeah, that's what you eeit. wet— grow up. yeah, that's what you said. he's-also- said. he's he's also underestimated that the biggest expat bloc in this country, as i understand it, are the poles. there's about a million of them and they having escaped communism they know what communism and they know what it's like live in a communist

it's like to live in a communist dominated country, they're not likely actually see another likely to actually see another reason wrong. reason why he may be wrong. they're not necessarily going to fall the of people they're not necessarily going to fall starmer. of people they're not necessarily going to fall starmer. they're people they're not necessarily going to fall starmer. they're not.»le like starmer. they're not. that's not what they're more likely conservative. so likely to vote conservative. so he not get what wants , he may not get what he wants, but it's definitely gerrymandering, isn't is. gerrymandering, isn't it? it is. i back to the 60 and 70 year i go back to the 60 and 70 year tite— i go back to the 60 and 70 year eite-eteuit— i go back to the 60 and 70 year olds-should-be- i go back to the 60 and 70 year olds should be allowed olds that should not be allowed uwtiee— olds that should not be allowed under circumstances. under any circumstances. interestingly— under any circumstances. interestingly from interestingly away from broadcasting- interestingly away from broadcasting , i'm broadcasting and journalism, i'm a broadcasting and journalism, i'm teeeeeieu— broadcasting and journalism, i'm eee teeter, ee— broadcasting and journalism, i'm a car dealer, as you— broadcasting and journalism, i'm a car dealer, as you don't say i etiq— a car dealer, as you don't say i eeit e— a car dealer, as you don't say i eeit e — a car dealer, as you don't say i eeit e wew— a car dealer, as you don't say i sold a car. very successful . sold a car. very successful. wew— sold a car. very successful. very successful.— sold a car. very successful. very successful. i saw the car to ew— very successful. i saw the car to en wtiew— very successful. i saw the car to an indian guy— very successful. i saw the car to an indian guy came via to an indian guy who came via siwqeteie— to an indian guy who came via singapore where— to an indian guy who came via singapore where he lived for tiwe— singapore where he lived for tiwe weee — singapore where he lived for five years. he— singapore where he lived for five years. he now lives in tewei— five years. he now lives in royal leamington spa and he wetet— royal leamington spa and he wetet tw— royal leamington spa and he wetet iw twe— royal leamington spa and he voted in the council elections teue— voted in the council elections because people— voted in the council elections because people from the commonwealth wasn't because people from the commonwealth iwasn't of commonwealth i wasn't aware of we— commonwealth i wasn't aware of the-weet— commonwealth i wasn't aware of this-yeah, that's— commonwealth i wasn't aware of this yeah, that's true. i this. oh yeah, that's true. i weet— this. oh yeah, that's true. i wasn't aware— this. oh yeah, that's true. i wasn't aware of— this. oh yeah, that's true. i wasn't aware of this. now i tow-t— wasn't aware of this. now i tew-t twew— wasn't aware of this. now i don't know whether he's allowed to don't know whether he's allowed te—eieetiewe- don't know whether he's allowed to _would .elections, - don't know whether he's allowed to _would .electthat - but one would assume that if wue— but one would assume that if weu-ie—wete- but one would assume that if weu-ie—wete iw- you're allowed to vote in eeuweii— you're allowed to vote in council elections, then what is etettiwq—iwl stopping you from voting in qeweiei— general elections? is he a eitizewe— general elections? is he a citizen? taken citizen? has he taken citizenship? he's got a uk tiiwiwq— citizenship? he's got a uk driving licence.— it. 37 he's got a uk driving licence. that's all i knew.— driving licence. that's all i knew. n0,— driving licence. that's all i knew. no, te— driving licence. that's all i know. no, he hasn't . driving licence. that's all i know. no, he hasn't. he's only teew— know. no, he hasn't. he's only teew tw— know. no, he hasn't. he's only teen in twe— know. no, he hasn't. he's only been in the-for- been in the country for two wewtte— been in the country for two wewtte. se— been in the country for two months. so he's— been in the country for two months. so he's been in the eeuwtw— months. so he's been in the eeuwtw tet— months. so he's been in the country for two— months. so he's been in the country for two months. and i knew—

country for two months. and i wew-teet- country for two months. and i know fact because he know this for a fact because he wee-te— know this for a fact because he wee-to qet— know this for a fact because he wee-to qet te— know this for a fact because he was-to get to me- know this for a fact because he was to get to me as to was trying to get to me as to tew— was trying to get to me as to tow i— was trying to get to me as to tow i wetet— was trying to get to me as to how i voted-i— was trying to get to me as to how i voted i never how i voted and i never tell teetie— how i voted and i never tell. teetie—teiitiee people how i vote. it's politics is people how i vote. it's politics ie teteewei. — people how i vote. it's politics is personal. .two- people how i vote. it's politics is personal. “ is personal. in two months in this if you've already this country, if you've already bumped into danny, you're doing this country, if you've already bumptwell.) danny, you're doing this country, if you've already bumptwell.) daihe's/ou're doing this country, if you've already bumptwell.) daihe's/o veryioing pretty well. and he's a very happy customer, incredibly satisfied customer. i don't think he could vote in a in a in a general election from what you've no but quite you've said. okay. no but quite right too. after two months. but what do you think that this weuit— but what do you think that this weuit-te— but what do you think that this weuit-te te- but what do you think that this would-to do to- but what do you think that this would to do to keir would be likely to do to keir steiwei— starmer popularity? because for someone - me who - starmer popularity? because for someone-me who i- starmer popularity? because for someone me who i don't know someone like me who i don't know wie— someone like me who i don't know wit—i— someone like me who i don't know wte—i ee— someone like me who i don't know wte—i ,- someone like me who i don't know who—i mean , i, the- who to vote for, i mean, i, the eeweewetiwe— who to vote for, i mean, i, the conservative-doingl conservative party, are doing euet— conservative party, are doing euet e— conservative party, are doing such a disgraceful job. it's no, you— such a disgraceful job. it's no, you knew— such a disgraceful job. it's no, you knew, wew— such a disgraceful job. it's no, you know, they would be my wetuiei— you know, they would be my wetutei teww— you know, they would be my natural party i'd— you know, they would be my natural party i'd vote for. but wetetiwq— natural party i'd vote for. but watching-they're- watching the way they're tetewiwq, — watching the way they'rei behaving,-can't watching the way they're- behaving,-can't bear. behaving, starmer, i can't bear. i . behaving, starmer, i can't bear. ._. i— behaving, starmer, i can't bear. ._. iiuet— behaving, starmer, i can't bear. ._. iiuet eew-t- behaving, starmer, i can't bear. i-. i just can't bear. i just don't. i just can't bear twe— i just don't. i just can't bear the wew— i just don't. i just can't bear the tw— i just don't. i just can't bear the man in all— i just don't. i just can't bear the man in all the things that we— the man in all the things that tee—twe— the man in all the things that he's-the policies. the man in all the things that he's the policies that he's doing and the policies that tee— he's doing and the policies that. te-e—ttew he's coming up with. to me, they iuet— he's coming up with. to me, they just—he— he's coming up with. to me, they iuet—te teeew-t- he's coming up with. to me, they just he doesn't need just seem to be he doesn't need to te— just seem to be he doesn't need to te teiwq— just seem to be he doesn't need to be doing this.— just seem to be he doesn't need to be doing this. he's so far eteet— to be doing this. he's so far ahead. in ahead. why would you bring in eewettiwq— ahead. why would you bring in something—don't. something like that? i don't understand.— something like that? i don't understand. _ something like that? i don't understand. the- something like that? i don't understand. 2“ something like that? i don't understand. : iii“ understand. the question is, are they future they trying to rig future elections? that's so elections? that's the point. so ttet-e— that's what i'm saying. is that do that's what i'm saying. is that te-ttiwt— that's what i'm saying. is that do .think that— that's what i'm saying. is that do .think that this- that's what i'm saying. is that do think that this is do you think that this is tetewtiettw— do you think that this is potentially putting people off wetiwq— potentially putting people off wetiwq tet— potentially putting people off voting for him?— potentially putting people off voting for him? that's what i'm eetiwq— voting for him? that's what i'm eetiwq-ieetiwq- voting for him? that's what i'm asking leading from asking. okay. leading on from the asking. okay. leading on from tte—uew-t- asking. okay. leading on from i the—don't think the question. no, i don't think it to put anyone off

it is going to put anyone off voting keir starmer. voting for keir starmer. it's going going to turn going to it's going to turn people even more people against him even more people against him even more people who right and people who are right leaning and right thinking erg they're going to against them more to turn against them even more because all of a sudden it becomes unfair. of sudden becomes unfair. all of a sudden it's playing it's like playing. it's playing an football match and an 11 team football match and you've got 12 and you've got 13, and you can bring subs on or you don't bring subs off don't need to bring any subs off any it's at a any any players off. it's at a huge disadvantage to the conservative party . any chance conservative party. any chance you're conservative party. any chance we-ue ttiwtiwq— conservative party. any chance you're thinking-football. conservative party. any chance. you're thinking-football ? you're thinking about football? teetteii— you're thinking about football? teetteii et— you're thinking about football? football or food?— you're thinking about football? football or food? what- you're thinking about football? football or food? what needs to happenis football or food? what needs to happen is that we need the tories who believe in real conservatism need to break away from the tory party. they need to join from the tory party. they need to teiw ut— from the tory party. they need to teiw ut witt— from the tory party. they need to join up with all— from the tory party. they need to join up with all the- they need to join up with all the various qwute— to join up with all the various qteute ttet— to join up with all the various groups that are _ to join up with all the various groups that are on the right wiwq. — groups that are on the right wiwq. ewt— groups that are on the right wine. we it— groups that are on the right wing. and if everybody joined together,— wing. and if everybody joined together,-will- together, there will be one teeewt— together, there will be one decent representing decent bloc representing conservative— decent bloc representing conservative values that would be conservative values that would te wewt — conservative values that would be worth voting— conservative values that would be worth voting for. e “at: be worth voting for. it sounds tite— be worth voting for. it sounds like what's going happen like what's going to happen the other then? other way round then? well, i fear going happen. fear it's not going to happen. but are, fortunately. but there we are, fortunately. right. nothing right. well this is nothing without your views. right. well this is nothing withoumaher your views. right. well this is nothing withoumaher maaroufeiews. right. well this is nothing withoumaher maaroufe great that's maher maaroufe great british voice. is there opportunity to be on the show and they think and tell us what they think about the topics we're discussing? to go to discussing? let's go to go to lee bristol. let's go

lee in bristol. let's go to bristol. have with bristol. let's have a chat with lee. spoken to him for lee. i haven't spoken to him for i week. i wasn't around last week. lee all let's what all right, let's talk. what do you think? is he is keir starmer kind of rig that vote ? kind of kind of rig that vote? of he is. nana that's of course he is. nana that's exeetiw— of course he is. nana that's exeettw wtet— of course he is. nana that's exactly what he's- of course he is. nana that's exactly what he's doing. ' “t: exactly what he's doing. and eweewew— exactly what he's doing. and everyone-it. you- exactly what he's doing. and. everyone-it. you know , everyone can see it. you know, in my opinion,— everyone can see it. you know, in my opinion, et— everyone can see it. you know, in my opinion, at heart,- ”1 ti?“ e you know, in my opinion, at heart, starmer is in my opinion, at heart, starmer ie e— in my opinion, at heart, starmer ie e tetteeie— in my opinion, at heart, starmer is a hardcore remainer who teeewt— is a hardcore remainer who doesn't believe— is a hardcore remainer who doesn't believe in the uk's etiiitw— doesn't believe in the uk's etiiitw te— doesn't believe in the uk's ability to govern itself, and he teeewt— ability to govern itself, and he doesn't trust— ability to govern itself, and he doesn't trust uk— ability to govern itself, and he doesn't trust uk voters or the working — doesn't trust uk voters or the working eieee— doesn't trust uk voters or the working class to _ doesn't trust uk voters or the working class to give him the ttet— working class to give him the answer that he— working class to give him the answer that he wants in national eetiew. — answer that he wants in national eetiew. se— answer that he wants in national action. so he's— answer that he wants in national action. so he's trying- answer that he wants in national action. “g e action. so he's trying to rig it and as you've already said, it doesn't over this too doesn't need to go over this too much that migrants and young doesn't need to go over this too much tmuch migrants and young doesn't need to go over this too much tmuch more ants and young doesn't need to go over this too much tmuch more likelynd young doesn't need to go over this too much tmuch more likely to young people much more likely to support labour and crucially much more likely to oppose brexit. so he's blatantly laying the groundwork for us to rejoin the groundwork for us to rejoin the eu in the future. you know, the eu in the future. you know, the one good thing about that actually is, is that for me, he's kind of advertising his his remainer credentials, which he's been hide and recently been trying to hide and recently so, so if anything, you know, the red wall will probably be like, oh yeah, he is actually. remember now a, remember now he's a, he's a remainer might work remainer and that might work against know, just against him. but, you know, just to be clear, because there is a

point here, i believe that if you qualify for our points based system , contribute to the system, contribute to the economy, pay your taxes , lived economy, pay your taxes, lived here for five years, and you crucially become a uk citizen , crucially become a uk citizen, you should absolutely have the right vote . i think that's right to vote. i think that's that's right. but important that's right. but the important bit that's right. but the important tit—vou- that's right. but the important tit—you twewl bit is citizenship. you know, ttet-e— bit is citizenship. you know, ttet-e e— bit is citizenship. you know, that's a privilege. and along with privilege comes the with that privilege comes the right and as has right to vote. and as has eiteetw— right to vote. and as has already been— right to vote. and as has already been said- 1 g“ and as has already been said by your panel, it's already been said by your panel, it-e tew— already been said by your panel, it-e tew twe— already been said by your panel, it's how the-it— already been said by your panel, it's how the it pretty it's how the eu do it pretty wuet— it's how the eu do it pretty much across— it's how the eu do it pretty much across the - it's how the eu do it pretty much across the board bar a eeutie— much across the board bar a eeutie et— much across the board bar a couple of countries. /t:::t. couple of countries. you know, if couple of countries. you know, it tw— couple of countries. you know, if i'm german and i want to vote in the french national elections, i have to become a french citizen. and it is the petty— french citizen. and it is the same pretty much- 1t:“i.“ ti. e wt:“ and it is the same pretty much across 1t: i ti. e wt:“ and it is the same pretty much across the eu . same pretty much across the eu. so same pretty much across the eu. to eew— same pretty much across the eu. to twe— same pretty much across the eu. to the eu— same pretty much across the eu. so even the eu believe in a tittie— so even the eu believe in a iittie tit— so even the eu believe in a little bit of— so even the eu believe in a little bit of national identity in wet— little bit of national identity in that respect— little bit of national identity in that respect that you have to be in that respect that you have to te e— in that respect that you have to te e eitizew — in that respect that you have to be a citizen to— in that respect that you have to be a citizen to vote— in that respect that you have to be a citizen to vote in national eieetiewe— be a citizen to vote in national elections. it's— be a citizen to vote in national elections. it's pretty widely eeeettet— elections. it's pretty widely accepted point— elections. it's pretty widely accepted point and keir starmer is accepted point and keir starmer ie teeteeiwq— accepted point and keir starmer ie teeteeiwq wet— accepted point and keir starmer is proposing that people from eu euwtiee— is proposing that people from eu countries don't— is proposing that people from eu countries don't require citizenship. _ countries don't require citizenship. so he's, you know, tettet— citizenship. so he's, you know, depher devaluing_ citizenship. so he's, you know, depher devaluing the meaning of eitizewetit— depher devaluing the meaning of eitizewetit ,— depher devaluing the meaning of citizenship , which— depher devaluing the meaning of citizenship , which is logical citizenship, which is logical for someone— citizenship, which is logical for someone who thinks we should be for someone who thinks we should te qewewet— for someone who thinks we should te qewewet et— for someone who thinks we should be governed at a— for someone who thinks we should be governed at a distance by the

eu be governed at a distance by the it .— be governed at a distance by the it .awt— be governed at a distance by the it .and my— be governed at a distance by the iu .awt my teet— be governed at a distance by the eu . and my last very quick point eu. and my last very quick point ewt— eu. and my last very quick point ewt iti— eu. and my last very quick point ewt in te— eu. and my last very quick point and i'll be quick— eu. and my last very quick point and i'll be quick vote 16. you knew— and i'll be quick vote 16. you knew ite— and i'll be quick vote 16. you know, it's utterly— and i'll be quick vote 16. you know, it's utterly ridiculous . know, it's utterly ridiculous. 18 know, it's utterly ridiculous. ie years— know, it's utterly ridiculous. is were eit— know, it's utterly ridiculous. 18 years old is— know, it's utterly ridiculous. 18 years old is about the right age— 18 years old is about the right eqe te— 18 years old is about the right eqe to te— 18 years old is about the right age to be allowed to vote anywav- — age to be allowed to vote anyway- you — age to be allowed to vote anyway. you know, as we said tewe— anyway. you know, as we said before, starmer's_ anyway. you know, as we said before, starmer's beloved eu. um,— before, starmer's beloved eu. uw. ttew— before, starmer's beloved eu. uw, ttew ten-t— before, starmer's beloved eu. um, they don't they- before, starmer's beloved eu. um, they don't they don't- before, starmer's beloved eu. um, they don't they don't allow voting under the age of 18 in pretty much 98% of cases. so yeah. with them well always a pleasure so succinct as usual and very detailed at the same time. thank you. lee harris. he's a great british voice nice to see you. that is lee harris. he's there in bristol. right. let's what you've been let's see what you've been saying kyiv says, i saying at home. so kyiv says, i think should have think that we should have the opposite what is opposite of what starmer is plotting there should be a law passed that no non uk resident can in any election. and can vote in any election. and michael says that education law states that young people have to remain in some form of education up to the age of 18. if starmer gets his way and gives 16 to 18 year olds to vote, that means schoolchildren will be part of the decision regarding who should country. i'm not should run our country. i'm not very keen on that idea. i'm with

you on that, daniel says. i'm not sure i would as far as not sure i would go as far as rigging elections , but allowing rigging elections, but allowing 16 vote definitely 16 year olds to vote definitely weighs election the weighs an election towards the left . hm. well, keep your left. hm. well, keep all your thoughts coming. you're with me. i'm akua. is gb news i'm nana akua. this is gb news is onune i'm nana akua. this is gb news is online and on digital is on tv, online and on digital radio on way outside at radio on the way outside at 5:00, i'll be joined by michael jackson's former bodyguard. he's a personal trainer to the stars who also owns a martial arts company worth . over £120 company worth. over £120 million. does anyone guess him ? million. does anyone guess him? but before that, i'll be joined by political commentator danny armstrong host the armstrong and host of the politics podcast, paul politics people podcast, paul duddndge politics people podcast, paul duddridge discuss the top duddridge to discuss the top stories around the globe. stories from around the globe. that

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teeieiew— view. and on the menu, the uk's teeieiew te— view. and on the menu, the uk's decision to supply— view. and on the menu, the uk's decision to supply ukraine with stem — decision to supply ukraine with storm shadow— decision to supply ukraine with storm shadow missiles. the war witt— storm shadow missiles. the war with itueeie— storm shadow missiles. the war with russia is— storm shadow missiles. the war with russia is back at the tetettewt— with russia is back at the forefront of— with russia is back at the forefront of global news. and teiwiwq— forefront of global news. and teiwiwq-wew— forefront of global news. and teiwiwq-wew ie— forefront of global news. and joining now is political joining me now is political commentator— joining me now is political commentator and russia expert tewww— commentator and russia expert danny armstrong— commentator and russia expert danny armstrong . now, danny, danny armstrong. now, danny, qeet— danny armstrong. now, danny, qeet te— danny armstrong. now, danny, qeet te eee— danny armstrong. now, danny, qeet te vou— danny armstrong. now, danny, qeet te weu .— danny armstrong. now, danny, good to see you . of course, the good to see you. of course, the ie— good to see you. of course, the ie eew— good to see you. of course, the ie eew et— good to see you. of course, the war is sort of took— good to see you. of course, the war is sort of took a bit of a turn— war is sort of took a bit of a tuw tet— war is sort of took a bit of a tuw tee twe— war is sort of took a bit of a turn for the worse for those in utteiwe.— turn for the worse for those in ukraine. apparently there was a tween— ukraine. apparently there was a russian attack— ukraine. apparently there was a russian attack at— ukraine. apparently there was a russian attack at the place where— russian attack at the place wtete twe— russian attack at the place where the those who won the tutewieiew— where the those who won the tutewieiew ,— where the those who won the eurovision , where they lived is eurovision, where they lived is wet— eurovision, where they lived is ttet eeweet— eurovision, where they lived is that correct ? _ eurovision, where they lived is that correct ? t1/t:?“ that correct? yeah, that's entirely true . ukraine's entirely true. ukraine's eurovision entry , as they were eurovision entry, as they were performing on stage , russia performing on stage, russia launched an attack on their hometown in ternopil, which is in the west of ukraine, not far from lviv , lviv whichever way from lviv, lviv whichever way you want to pronounce it. it does relate to those storm shadow rockets that were donated by the uk to ukraine. of course, those long—range cruise missiles that ukraine has been asking for a long, long time . ukraine a long, long time. ukraine promised not to use them on russian territory. of course they can reach that with that 250 kilometre range. they

promised to use it to liberate crimea and those four annexed territories by russia that were annexed back in september. now, they did that with attacks in luhansk. people have been injured in those attacks and the attack in ternopil by the russian side and also in the dnipro and petropavlovka in the east, that was simply to get at the supplies that have and the military aid that have been given by the west. and, of course , that means those storm course, that means those storm shadow missiles , russia perhaps shadow missiles, russia perhaps trying to source out where those missiles are and destroy them to stop that ukrainian counteroffensive. but of course , all that happening while ukraine's eurovision entry , ukraine's eurovision entry, we're performing on stage . we're performing on stage. awful, awful. and of course , awful, awful. and of course, tew— awful, awful. and of course, four aircraft— awful, awful. and of course, four aircraft were— awful, awful. and of course, four aircraft were downed in itueeiew— four aircraft were downed in russian territory. is that right 7 wett— russian territory. is that right 7 well, that's— russian territory. is that right ? well, that's exactly- russian territory. is that right 7 tutti; t:,t

ukraine were running out of missiles . ukraine were running out of missiles. ukraine seemed to be quite handily protecting their airspace there were four aircraft that were shot down over the weekend, all in bryansk, which is the border region, which around about region, which is around about 30km from the ukrainian border. this happened as two aircraft, a su 34 and a su 35. those are two fighter jets . and su 34 and a su 35. those are two fighterjets . and 2mi8 fighter jets. and 2mi8 helicopters that were shot down in the same day with a matter of ease by the ukrainians all on board perished in those attacks. they were reportedly on their way to bomb chernihiv the ukrainian city. it looks as though ukraine, despite wanting these wings of freedom , um, do these wings of freedom, um, do seem to be not quite handily protecting their airspace. i mean it goes to show you that the ukrainians, despite asking despite zelenskyy asking for a long time for these long—range missiles that they seem to be repelling these these russian attacks. so it is quite, um , i attacks. so it is quite, um, i would say, embarrassing for the russian side that they have

lost. so many aircraft in such a in a single day. of course, nothing has been confirmed by the russian side or the russian ministry of defence , apart from ministry of defence, apart from to say that their attacks on ukrainian soil were successful and all designated objectives were reached and realised. thank you very much. that's tewieiie— thank you very much. that's danielle armstrong, who's a teiitieei— danielle armstrong, who's a political commentator. good to wit— political commentator. good to teitlweu. — political commentator. good to teitlweu. iet-e— political commentator. good to talk you. let's travel over talk to you. let's travel over to awetiee. — talk to you. let's travel over to america. we're- talk to you. let's travel over to america. we're going to have a to america. we're going to have e—tutttitqe. i to america. we're going to havei a_duddridge. he's to america. we're going to have a host duddridge. he's to america. we're going to have a host politics dge. he's to america. we're going to have a host politics peoplet's the host of the politics people teteeet— the host of the politics people teteeet .— the host of the politics people teteeet . se— the host of the politics people podcast . so paul— the host of the politics people podcast . so paul duddridge, podcast. so paul duddridge, iet-e— podcast. so paul duddridge, iet-e-eteut— podcast. so paul duddridge, let's-about it.- podcast. so paul duddridge, let's about it. trump's let's talk about it. trump's eewt— let's talk about it. trump's court verdict— let's talk about it. trump's court verdict is— let's talk about it. trump's court verdict is more legal tteutie— court verdict is more legal trouble around— court verdict is more legal trouble around the corner . court verdict is more legal trouble around the corner. is ttet— trouble around the corner. is ttet ie— trouble around the corner. is ttet ie ttet— trouble around the corner. is that is that how— trouble around the corner. is that is that how it's faring for tiw— that is that how it's faring for tiw 7— that is that how it's faring for tiw 7 vee— that is that how it's faring for him ? yes it's— that is that how it's faring for him ? yes it's happy mother's day him? yes it's happy mother's day tew— him? yes it's happy mother's day ttew tte— him? yes it's happy mother's day from the united— him? yes it's happy mother's day from the united states, by the wew. — from the united states, by the wew. vet.— from the united states, by the wew. wee. se— from the united states, by the way. yes. so so— from the united states, by the way. 74:3 so trump was found way. yes. so so trump was found iietie— way. yes. so so trump was found iietie ew— way. yes. so so trump was found liable on tuesday— way. yes. so so trump was found liable on tuesday for— way. 74:3 so trump was found liable on tuesday for the e jean eeweii— liable on tuesday for the e jean eeweii eeee— liable on tuesday for the e jean carroll case in— liable on tuesday for the e jean carroll case in new— liable on tuesday for the e jean carroll case in new york, a case by tte— carroll case in new york, a case by the wew— carroll case in new york, a case by the way ttet— carroll case in new york, a case by the way, that they had to etewqe— by the way, that they had to etewqe tte — by the way, that they had to change the law— by the way, that they had to change the law on statute of iiwitetiewe— change the law on statute of limitations in— change the law on statute of limitations in new york to even ttiwq— limitations in new york to even ttiwq teue— limitations in new york to even bring because this— limitations in new york to even bring because this event had tettewet— bring because this event had tettewet tite— bring because this event had happened like 30 years ago. so it's happened like 30 years ago. so we eiteqet— happened like 30 years ago. so it's alleged event— happened like 30 years ago. so it's alleged event had happened 30 it's alleged event had happened to weere— it's alleged event had happened to were eqe. — it's alleged event had happened 30 years ago. and— it's alleged event had happened 30 years ago. '“t: e it's alleged event had happened 30 years ago. ' “t: e e 30 years ago. and it so it was outside the statute of

limitations, but they changed the law so that you had one year that you could bring a historic events to court. so no rigging weee,— events to court. so no rigging ttete, wet— events to court. so no rigging ttete, wet e— events to court. so no rigging there, not a political- tititt.1e so no rigging there, not a political action at eii. — there, not a political action at eii. tut— there, not a political action at eii. tut ite— there, not a political action at all. but it's opened- there, not a political action at all. : all. but it's opened the floodgates now you're going to start seeing trump in court. floodgates now you're going to start seeing trump in court . we start seeing trump in court. we already had him the 34th felonies in new york , and now we felonies in new york, and now we have the e jean carroll . the have the e jean carroll. the next is probably going- “ the next is probably going to be eeetqie— next is probably going to be georgia, where— next is probably going to be georgia, where they'll accuse tiw — georgia, where they'll accuse tiwleteeiiwq— georgia, where they'll accuse him stealing votes . '“t: georgia, where they'll accuse him stealing votes . “t: him of stealing votes. and then the january committee will the january 6th committee will report it. and obviously he's going to be i can't imagine they're going to say now, just let him off. he's going to be done for inciting an insurrection, which didn't done for inciting an insurreconi, which didn't done for inciting an insurrec on january.didn't done for inciting an insurrec on january. the't done for inciting an insurrecon january. the sixth. happen on january. the sixth. and so he's going to be facing 4 or t— and so he's going to be facing 4 or 5 wet— and so he's going to be facing 4 or t wete eeuw— and so he's going to be facing 4 or 5 major court actions and any ttet— or 5 major court actions and any ttet ttet— or 5 major court actions and any more that they can— or 5 major court actions and any more that they can find billionaires— more that they can find billionaires to fund . '“t: billionaires to fund. and weee-e— billionaires to fund. and there's literally won't leave him alone. i mean, this is it's becoming to be quite obvious, actually, that this is an attack on him. willis actually, that this is an attack on him. will is this likely to affect his support ? erg it has. affect his support? erg it has. it's had affect his support? erg it has. it tet e— affect his support? erg it has. it's had a major— affect his support? erg it has. it's had a major effect- i “ 7 erg it has. it's had a major effect on his

euttew. — it's had a major effect on his euttew. wee— it's had a major effect on his euttew. ue-e up- it's had a major effect on his support. it; e. “1t:t: it's had a major effect on his support. e. support. he's up three points since the finding that he's liable on tuesday. he actually has increased— : he actually has increased popularity by twee— has increased popularity by three points. _ has increased popularity by three points. “gt: three points. his poll ratings went up. he did a cnn town hall call it. he did a town hall tetete— call it. he did a town hall debate with— call it. he did a town hall debate with cnn - i e he did a town hall debate with cnn and cnn were hoping— debate with cnn and cnn were tetiwq te— debate with cnn and cnn were tetiwq te etuet— debate with cnn and cnn were hoping to crush him, but it was in wew— hoping to crush him, but it was in new hampshire— hoping to crush him, but it was in new hampshire and the eutiewee— in new hampshire and the audience were— in new hampshire and the audience were completely on his eite. — audience were completely on his eite. _tuet— audience were completely on his eite. _tuetewe— audience were completely on his side. _just one of- audience were completely on his side. _just one of the. side. it was just one of the most of like most wonderful bits of it's like the night buried the the night they buried cnn, the describing here. so, no, describing it as here. so, no, it's only working positively. it seems so foolish that the establishment— it seems so foolish that the establishment is going for him this establishment is going for him ttie wew— establishment is going for him this way because _ establishment is going for him this way because it is increasing— this way because it is increasing his popularity. �*7 increasing his popularity. if anybody— increasing his popularity. if anybody we— increasing his popularity. if anybody was ever- increasing his popularity. �*7 increasing his popularity. if anybody was ever seen as being the subject of unfair abuse of system, it's donald trump and it's working in his favour. it must be very taxing. it's very eteweiwe— must be very taxing. it's very eteeie . — must be very taxing. it's very expensive . it's— must be very taxing. it's very expensive . e t:1«t must be very taxing. it's very expensive . e tt:3 e 1 “g expensive. it's very tiring. tut— expensive. it's very tiring. tut it— expensive. it's very tiring. tut it ie— expensive. it's very tiring. but it is actually— expensive. e tt:3 e 1 “g but it is actually being counterproductive for anybody ttet-e— counterproductive for anybody ttet-e-ttiwq- counterproductive for anybody that's-bring him - counterproductive for anybody that's bring him down. that's trying to bring him down. so that's trying to bring him down. set-ttet— that's trying to bring him down. se-ttew ttet- that's trying to bring him down. se-ttew ttet 7- that's trying to bring him down. so_tbey stop ? why. so why don't they stop? why don't give up on tactic don't they give up on the tactic and something are and do something else? why are they entrenched this they so entrenched in this behaviour that they think that it's to work? it's not

it's going to work? it's not working. in reverse working. it's working in reverse . why they something . why don't they do something else ? because the head of the else? because the head of the party— else? because the head of the pew teeieeiiw— else? because the head of the party basically is— 7 because the head of the party basically is joe biden . party basically is joe biden. ewt— party basically is joe biden. awt it— party basically is joe biden. awt it you— party basically is joe biden. and if you think of that, that's ttet— and if you think of that, that's ttet tteee— and if you think of that, that's that these are _ and if you think of that, that's that these are the _ and if you think of that, that's that these are the level of etteteqiete— that these are the level of strategists that _ that these are the level of strategists that we have. people like strategists that we have. people iite twin— strategists that we have. people like alvin bragg— strategists that we have. people like alvin bragg in new york are wetiwq— like alvin bragg in new york are wetiwq tteit— like alvin bragg in new york are making their name from this. vou— making their name from this. you weuitw-t— making their name from this. you wouldn't have— making their name from this. you wouldn't have heard- making their name from this. you wouldn't have heard of most of these players were it for of these players were it not for them traffic the them getting the traffic and the hashtag donald hashtag of donald trump incorporated little incorporated in their little twitter feed. so that's i think there's a misuse of the system they believe strategically the system is going to take him down. and most people on that establishment side don't understand the other half of america that sees what's playing out. it is look, it's remainers , as you're talking about keir starmer you think that's going to work? that's going to just resurrect everybody- 7 that's going to just resurrect everybody who's a tewe-e — resurrect everybody who's a tewe-e ite— resurrect everybody who's a lever. it's the— resurrect everybody who's a lever. it's the same- resurrect everybody who's a lever. a g resurrect everybody who's a lever. e “g e lever. it's the same thing. it's half the country doesn't talk to the of the country. the other half of the country. they completely, they think was it. we think they're wrong. t hey— it. we think they're wrong. itew ttiwt— it. we think they're wrong. they think we're— it. we think they're wrong. they think we're evil- it. we think they're wrong. they think we're evil and they it. we think they're wrong. thejd0tink we're evil and they it. we think they're wrong. thejdo not we're evil and they it. we think they're wrong. thejdo not understand nd they it. we think they're wrong. thejdo not understand .d they it. we think they're wrong. thejdo not understand . andty it. we think they're wrong. thejdo not understand . and that just do not understand. and that we see through their strategies. but it's a combination of ego ,

but it's a combination of ego, wewitw— but it's a combination of ego, vanity, self—righteousness , vanity, self—righteousness, tuttie. — vanity, self—righteousness, tuttie. ite— vanity, self—righteousness, hubris. it's all— vanity, self—righteousness, hubris. e “t: hubris. it's all these kind of elements always this is what the left always do . and we've got left always do. and we've got ewt— left always do. and we've got ewt tw— left always do. and we've got ewt iw tetwe— left always do. and we've got and in terms of— left always do. and we've got and in terms of if— left always do. and we've got and in terms of if he's- t:t:::t and we've got and in terms of if he's found quitt— and in terms of if he's found quiitw ttiettw— and in terms of if he's found guilty, briefly, what will that do guilty, briefly, what will that to te — guilty, briefly, what will that to te tiw7— guilty, briefly, what will that do to him? can— guilty, briefly, what will that do to him? can he be arrested ? do to him? can he be arrested? eew— do to him? can he be arrested? eew te— do to him? can he be arrested? eew te te— do to him? can he be arrested? can he be imprisoned? it could be can he be imprisoned? it could te te— can he be imprisoned? it could te te eew— can he be imprisoned? it could te te te— can he be imprisoned? it could be he can be he— can he be imprisoned? it could be he can be he could be iwttieewet— be he can be he could be imprisoned and still run for tteeitewt. — imprisoned and still run for president. he— imprisoned and still run for president. t: i?“ imprisoned and still run for president. i?“ : president. he can be imprisoned and run . he president. he can be imprisoned and run. he can president. he can be imprisoned and run . he can actually run president. i?“ : ?“t: “ he can actually run the and run. he can actually run the eeuwtw— and run. he can actually run the eeuwtw wew— and run. he can actually run the eeuwtw ttew e— and run. he can actually run the country from a prison— ?“t: “ he can actually run the country from a prison cell. so tte— country from a prison cell. so tte ewt— country from a prison cell. so tte ewe qewe— country from a prison cell. so the end game for— country from a prison cell. so the end game for them isn't that satisfying. anyway, they're tetiwq—tiwl satisfying. anyway, they'rei hoping—him, not hoping to discredit him, not teeuee— hoping to discredit him, not realise that— hoping to discredit him, not realise that as— hoping to discredit him, not realise that as he's been teeetitet— realise that as he's been described as— realise that as he's been described as mud monster, the described as a mud monster, the weee-wou— described as a mud monster, the weee-weu tiwew— described as a mud monster, the more-you throw at- described as a mud monster, the more you throw at him, the more mud you throw at him, the tiqqet— more mud you throw at him, the tiqqet-se— more mud you throw at him, the tiqqet-se ite- more mud you throw at him, the bigger-so it's actually bigger he gets. so it's actually there's nothing that could stop him running for president or becoming president. they're trying it trying to discredit him. it isn't working. it's actually working— isn't working. it's actually working against- e “g it's actually working against them. tit. isn't working. it's actually- working against them. you think ttet-t— working against them. you think ttew-u stop?— working against them. you think they'd stop? paul duddridge , they'd stop? paul duddridge, thank good to thank you very much. good to talk he's the host talk to you. he's the host of the politics people podcast. talk to you. he's the host of the polacs people podcast. talk to you. he's the host of the pola pleasure. podcast. talk to you. he's the host of the pola pleasure. fabulous. talk to you. he's the host of the justi pleasure. fabulous. talk to you. he's the host of the just join asure. fabulous. talk to you. he's the host of the just join me,3. fabulous. talk to you. he's the host of the just join me,3. fabuon s. talk to you. he's the host of the just join me,3. fabuon earth you just join me, where on earth have you been? we've got loads more on the way. very exciting. outside. guest he will be here live all of that live in the studio. all of that on in the next hour.

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nurses are calling for a double tiqit tew etiee— nurses are calling for a double digit pay offer to— nurses are calling for a double digit pay offer to prevent tuwtet— digit pay offer to prevent further strike _ digit pay offer to prevent further strike action. the head of further strike action. the head et tte— further strike action. the head oi the tetet— further strike action. the head of the royal college of nursing , tet— of the royal college of nursing , tet eutiew— of the royal college of nursing , pat cullen, told— of the royal college of nursing , pat cullen, told the sunday iiwee— , pat cullen, told the sunday iiwee tte— , pat cullen, told the sunday times the government risks ewettet— times the government risks ewettet eiw— times the government risks another six months of industrial eetiew— another six months of industrial eetiew it— another six months of industrial action if negotiations aren't teetewet— action if negotiations aren't teetewet .— action if negotiations aren't reopened . members rejected a 5% reopened. members rejected a 5% on...— reopened. members rejected a 5% one. wtiet— reopened. members rejected a 5% offer, which was— reopened. members rejected a 5% offer, which was accepted by 14 ettet— offer, which was accepted by 14 other uwiewe— offer, which was accepted by 14 other unions .— offer, which was accepted by 14 other unions . a— offer, which was accepted by 14 other unions . a new ballot for other unions. a new ballot for ettitee— other unions. a new ballot for ettitee witt— other unions. a new ballot for strikes will be _ other unions. a new ballot for strikes will be held later this went.— strikes will be held later this month. residents in north devon tete— month. residents in north devon teit ue— month. residents in north devon teit ue ttet— month. residents in north devon told us they need— month. residents in north devon told us they need to consider tte— told us they need to consider the euwewt— told us they need to consider the current economic climate , the current economic climate, tut— the current economic climate, tut i— the current economic climate, tut i te — the current economic climate, but i do believe— the current economic climate, but i do believe there worth ewew— but i do believe there worth ewew tewww— but i do believe there worth ewew tewww et— but i do believe there worth every penny of 5. but but whether they're worth more , i whether they're worth more, i think probably yes. but we definitely need them. and we need the health service. it's being run down by this government, which i can't blame them for. covid because there's a new disease, but the rest of it, they up. i think they it, they mucked up. i think they eteuit— it, they mucked up. i think they eteuit eeeett— it, they mucked up. i think they should accept-offer- e i: ithink they should accept offer that's should accept the offer that's on - because we're . should accept the offer that's on because we're all on the table because we're all euttetiwq— on the table because we're all suffering from _ on the table because we're all suffering from the cost of iiwiwq— suffering from the cost of living crisis— suffering from the cost of living crisis .— suffering from the cost of living crisis . and as living crisis. and as a teweiwe— living crisis. and as a teweiewe ,- living crisis. and as a pensioner , although we've had pensioner, although we've had a big pensioner, although we've had a tie tee— pensioner, although we've had a tie ttie— pensioner, although we've had a big rise this time,— pensioner, although we've had a big rise this time, it's wetetiw— big rise this time, it's probably not- big rise this time, it's probably not going to last. big rise this time, it's— probably not going to last. and we're affected _ probably not going to last. and we're affected by— probably not going to last. and we're affected by everything as

well. suggestions we're affected by everything as well . suggestions of unrest well. suggestions of unrest wittiw— well. suggestions of unrest wittiw tte— suggestions of unrest within the conservative party are within the conservative party teiwq— within the conservative party are being downplayed after the time— are being downplayed after the prime minister— are being downplayed after the prime minister was blamed for the eeewt— prime minister was blamed for the recent local— prime minister was blamed for the recent local election teeuite— the recent local election results. rishi— the recent local election results. rishi sunak is facing etitieiew— results. rishi sunak is facing criticism after— results. rishi sunak is facing criticism after nearly 1000 councillors— criticism after nearly 1000 councillors were lost and the teeieiew— councillors were lost and the teeieiew te— councillors were lost and the decision to scale— councillors were lost and the decision to scale back post—brexit- decision to scale back post—brexit plans to scrap eu tewe. — post—brexit plans to scrap eu tewe. tetwe— post—brexit plans to scrap eu laws. former home secretary witi — laws. former home secretary witi tetet— laws. former home secretary priti patel accused the leader of priti patel accused the leader et teiiiwq— priti patel accused the leader et teiiiwq te— priti patel accused the leader of failing to listen to his party— of failing to listen to his teww etewq— of failing to listen to his party, adding the tories hadn't eewetet— party, adding the tories hadn't covered itself— party, adding the tories hadn't covered itself in— party, adding the tories hadn't covered itself in glory since tewe— covered itself in glory since boris johnson's— covered itself in glory since boris johnson's leadership. twetqw— boris johnson's leadership. energy secretary grant shapps eewe— energy secretary grant shapps eewe tte— energy secretary grant shapps says the prime— energy secretary grant shapps says the prime minister is doing the says the prime minister is doing tte tiqit— says the prime minister is doing the right things— says the prime minister is doing the right things and people need to the right things and people need te te— the right things and people need te te tetiewt— the right things and people need te te tetiewt. — the right things and people need to be patient. i— the right things and people need to be patient. ?“t: to be patient. i think this and she was referring to the set of elections which were obviously very difficult for the conservatives. they weren't a good set of elections for us, but this was the first opportunity people have had to comment on the shenanigans comment on all the shenanigans of last summer and those many leadership changes that went on. and i think people were venting their frustration . an i actually their frustration. an i actually think rishi sunak in his think the rishi sunak in his five point plan to halve inflation and grow the economy

and reduce our debt and cut the nhs waiting list and stop the small boats, i think he's doing exactly the right things. and let's judge him against that. let's this government let's judge this government against that when comes to against that when it comes to the election . the shadow the next election. the shadow business secretary has defended plans to give workers the right to switch off outside of working hours. labour to switch off outside of working hours . labour wants to restrict hours. labour wants to restrict ewttewete— hours. labour wants to restrict ewttewete ttew — labour wants to restrict employers from contacting staff by ewewe— employers from contacting staff by ttewe et— employers from contacting staff by phone or email, saying wetetet— by phone or email, saying workers should— by phone or email, saying workers should be able to disconnect— workers should be able to disconnect from devices in their tewwtiwe— disconnect from devices in their downtime. similar— disconnect from devices in their downtime. similar legislation is eiteetw— downtime. similar legislation is eiteetw tw— downtime. similar legislation is already in place— downtime. similar legislation is already in place in france . already in place in france. tewettew— already in place in france. jonathan reynolds told gb news it witt— jonathan reynolds told gb news it will promote— jonathan reynolds told gb news it will promote productivity . i it will promote productivity. i ttiwt— it will promote productivity. i ttiwt we— it will promote productivity. i ttiwt we te— it will promote productivity. i think we do want to see the kind of think we do want to see the kind et ewttewwewt— think we do want to see the kind of employment laws that will tteteet— of employment laws that will tteteet tewiiw— of employment laws that will protect family life, give people tiwe— protect family life, give people tiwe tw— protect family life, give people some time in order to do the ewe— some time in order to do the ettet ttiwqe— some time in order to do the other things that— some time in order to do the other things that are important in tite— other things that are important in tie, ee— other things that are important in life, as well— other things that are important in life, as well as— other things that are important in life, as well as work. ' “t: in life, as well as work. and i think— in life, as well as work. and i ttiwt ttet-e— in life, as well as work. and i think that's been eroded very significantly i significantly in recent years. i think market itself think the labour market itself means want means that more people want flexibility workplace, flexibility in the workplace, but confident in but i'm absolutely confident in the aggregate platform we'll put forward the one will forward is the one that will give people hope and optimism and this country around. give people hope and optimism

and years country around. give people hope and optimism and yearsc0lconservative after 13 years of conservative government . labour says it has government. labour says it has a plan to create 80,000 new jobs in the car industry , partly in the car industry, partly financing eight factories if it wins the election. it'll also help wins the election. it'll also tett eewei— wins the election. it'll also help power nearly- wins the election. it'll also help power nearly 2- i t:“ it'll also help power nearly 2 million eieettie— help power nearly 2 million electric vehicles— help power nearly 2 million electric vehicles . as the party electric vehicles. as the party eewe— electric vehicles. as the party eewe tte — electric vehicles. as the party says the proposal— electric vehicles. as the party says the proposal will see the weet— says the proposal will see the west midlands— says the proposal will see the west midlands benefit from 77,000— west midlands benefit from 77,000 tete— west midlands benefit from 28,000 jobs and 11,000 roles witt— 28,000 jobs and 11,000 roles wiii te— 28,000 jobs and 11,000 roles will be created— 28,000 jobs and 11,000 roles will be created in— 28,000 jobs and 11,000 roles will be created in the north—west- will be created in the north—west counting is under way in turkey— north—west counting is under way in turkey te— north—west counting is under way in turkey to establish who will be in turkey to establish who will te tte — in turkey to establish who will be the country's— in turkey to establish who will be the country's next president . vetete— be the country's next president . vetete tewe— be the country's next president . voters have been— be the country's next president . voters have been deciding on whether— . voters have been deciding on whether president— . voters have been deciding on whether president erdogan, who's teew — whether president erdogan, who's teew tw— whether president erdogan, who's teen in eewei— whether president erdogan, who's been in power for— whether president erdogan, who's been in power for 20 years, eteuit— been in power for 20 years, eteuit te— been in power for 20 years, should be re—elected. opinion teiie— should be re—elected. opinion tetie eweet— should be re—elected. opinion polls ahead of— should be re—elected. opinion polls ahead of the ballot gave his polls ahead of the ballot gave tie wew— polls ahead of the ballot gave his main rival— polls ahead of the ballot gave his main rival ,— polls ahead of the ballot gave his main rival, kemal kilicdaroglu, a slight lead , but kilicdaroglu, a slight lead, but tteiiwiwew— kilicdaroglu, a slight lead, but preliminary results show erdogan is preliminary results show erdogan ie eweet— preliminary results show erdogan ie eteet witt— preliminary results show erdogan is ahead with 59,— preliminary results show erdogan is ahead with 59, a— preliminary results show erdogan is ahead with 59, a clearer iwtieetiew— is ahead with 59, a clearer indication of— is ahead with 59, a clearer indication of the first round teeuit— indication of the first round teeuit ie— indication of the first round result is expected. this evening . itie— result is expected. this evening . itie ie— result is expected. this evening . itie ie et— result is expected. this evening . this is gb news.— result is expected. this evening . this is gb news. we'll bring you— . this is gb news. we'll bring weu wete— . this is gb news. we'll bring you more news as— . this is gb news. we'll bring you more news as it happens. now it's you more news as it happens. now we teet— you more news as it happens. now we teet te— you more news as it happens. now it's back to nana— you more news as it happens. now

it's back to nana .— it's back to nana. i eeet— it's back to nana.| . good afternoon. it's back to nana. good afternoon. if you just joined me, good afternoon. if you just joinjustie, good afternoon. if you just joinjust coming up to five it's just coming up to five minutes after 5:00. is gb minutes after 5:00. this is gb news on online and on digital news on tv online and on digital radio. akua . and for radio. i'm nana akua. and for the me my panel the next hour, me and my panel will taking some of the will be taking on some of the big the headlines big topics hitting the headlines right this show all right now. this show is all about mine, it's about opinion. it's mine, it's theirs. of it's theirs. and of course, it's yours. we'll be debating, discussing, we discussing, and at times we will disagree , no will be disagree, but no one will be cancelled . so joining today cancelled. so joining me today is broadcaster and author christine also christine hamilton, also broadcaster and journalist danny kelly. now still to come, each sunday at five, i'm joined by a celebrity , a former mp, or celebrity, a former mp, or someone who's extremely someone who's had an extremely interesting someone who's had an extremely intert at ing after the job. someone who's had an extremely intertating after the job. we look at life after the job. we talk highs and lows and lessons learned on learned and what comes next on the today i'll be the outside. and today i'll be joined michaeljackson's joined by michael jackson's former now he was a former bodyguard. now he was a security officer of the king of pop for over a decade , and now pop for over a decade, and now he runs a company worth over £100 million. have you guessed who he is ? he's here in the who he is? he's here in the studio. you'll see him in a

moment. and for the great british debate this hour, i'm asking, losing asking, is rishi sunak losing control? former home secretary priti patel has taken a swipe at the prime minister. she wouldn't have had to swipe her arm up very high and this government claiming senior in the claiming senior figures in the tory done a better tory party have done a better job damaging the job of damaging the conservatives than labour . so is conservatives than labour. so is he keep your he losing control? keep your thoughts coming. email gb views at gb news .uk or tweet me at. gb news. so it's time for this week's outside , and i'm week's outside, and i'm delighted to say that i'm joined by a very, very special guest. now, he was a security officer for the king of pop, michael jackson, for over a decade now. he has he was his right hand man and has often seen pictured alongside him at public events protecting him from the manic crowds following on from his role working for jackson, he built a global martial arts empire worth over £100 million. he left school at 16 with £100

and no qualifications to become and no qualifications to become a lifeguard. but now he has schools around the world with over 120,000 students. his grandfather was an irish weightlifting champion and was even picked for the rome olympics . even picked for the rome olympics. has even picked for the rome olympics . has anyone guessed who olympics. has anyone guessed who it might be? of course it is. i'm delighted to say it's michael jackson's former security , matt fiddes. he security guard, matt fiddes. he joins now . hello, matt. how joins me now. hello, matt. how are you doing now ? nice to see are you doing now? nice to see you. too. wow god just you. you, too. wow god just teeieeiiw— you. you, too. wow god just basically told— you. you, too. wow god just basically told my— 1/t:::t. god just basically told my whole life etew. — i-wel basically told my whole life. etew. — i-we teit story. well, i know. i've told them— story. well, i know. i've told them that . don't talk them about that. don't talk about we're going about it. no, we're going to talk because. talk about you because. okay. what like you growing what was it like for you growing up? because 16, you left up? so because at 16, you left school at 16 on £100, you made it into millions. but start me from beginning , i was from the beginning, i was bullied school. i mean, bullied at school. i mean, that's bullied at school. i mean, ttet-e-weet- bullied at school. i mean,| that's-most people's bullied at school. i mean,- that's-most people's story that's where most people's story etette— that's where most people's story etette. itet— that's where most people's story starts. they have— that's where most people's story starts. they have some kind of eeiw— starts. they have some kind of eew—te- starts. they have some kind of teiw—te tewe| pain that leads them to have ttet— that ambition and drive. so i iew.— that ambition and drive. so i iett. it.— that ambition and drive. so i iett. ie. we— that ambition and drive. so i left. 16. no qualifications. i tit— left. 16. no qualifications. i tit-tut- left. 16. no qualifications. i tit-tut i- left. 16. no qualifications. i did-but i didn't. left. 16. no qualifications. i. did-but i didn't really did my best, but i didn't really tewe— did my best, but i didn't really have - subjects _ did my best, but i didn't really have subjects that i was have any subjects that i was iwteteetet— have any subjects that i was interested in.— have any subjects that i was interested in. other than wewtiwq— interested in. other than wewtiwq te— interested in. other than wanting to teach people martial ewe. — wanting to teach people martial ewe. se— wanting to teach people martial ewe. se yeah— wanting to teach people martial ewe. se yeabw i— wanting to teach people martial arts. so yeah, i moved to north tewew— arts. so yeah, i moved to north tewew i— arts. so yeah, i moved to north tewew i get— arts. so yeah, i moved to north tewew i qet e— arts. so yeah, i moved to north devon. i got a job— arts. so yeah, i moved to north devon. i got a job as a titequett— devon. i got a job as a lifeguard working for £2.75 an tew— lifeguard working for £2.75 an teut, ewt— lifeguard working for £2.75 an teut, ewt i—

lifeguard working for £2.75 an hour, and i had— lifeguard working for £2.75 an hour, and i had this dream of etewiwq— hour, and i had this dream of etewiwq-eww— hour, and i had this dream of starting own martial arts starting my own martial arts tueiweee— starting my own martial arts business empire. e business empire. what was it about martial arts? was it just the bullying or was there some somebody in martial that somebody in martial arts that i mean, what mean, did you ever watch? what was magic that was that one monkey magic that wasn't weren't doing? do wasn't they weren't doing? do you that one. you remember that? that one. they clouds monkey they were on the clouds monkey and pigsy all the characters and pigsy and all the characters in don't remember that in that. i don't remember that one, old. one, but i must be too old. bruce jean—claude van bruce lee and jean—claude van tewwe—il damme and the usual stuff. i think— damme and the usual stuff. i ttiwt-it— damme and the usual stuff. i ttiwt-it wee— damme and the usual stuff. i think-it was, i- damme and the usual stuff. i think it was, i found think what it was, i found eewettiwq— think what it was, i found eewettiwq i— think what it was, i found something i was good at. that wee-et— something i was good at. that was-at school.- was the thing at school. i was eiwewe—weu-te- was the thing at school. i was always—you're not| always being told, you're not qeet— always being told, you're noti qeet—teiwq always being told, you're noti qeetet—teiwq always being told, you're noti good at this,_doing always being told, you're not good at this, and doing always being told, you're not goodat this, and your doing well at this, and your handwriting- well at this, and your handwriting not great and so handwriting is not great and so on. handwriting is not great and so ew-qet— handwriting is not great and so ew-qet ie— handwriting is not great and so ew-qet ie we- handwriting is not great and so on. got to the point where on. and i got to the point where i on. and i got to the point where i-wtite. — on. and i got to the point where i-write. icouldn't- i can't write. i couldn't sign my— i can't write. i couldn't sign ww—etutt- i can't write. i couldn't sign ww—etuttlit-ei i can't write. i couldn't sign- my-stuff,-it's not my name and stuff, but it's not tew— my name and stuff, but it's not wew-teet— my name and stuff, but it's not how-back because. my name and stuff, but it's not how back because they how my career back because they eeeuwet— how my career back because they assumed-handed. how my career back because they assumed handed when assumed i was right handed when i assumed i was right handed when i-teet— assumed i was right handed when i-teet-tewtet.- assumed i was right handed when i-fact.handed. it- i was in fact left handed. it wee-tw— i was in fact left handed. it wee-tw-teiwti i was in fact left handed. it. was-by.point. but was too late by that point. but eeiw— was too late by that point. but teeiiw it— was too late by that point. but teetiw it we— was too late by that point. but really it was just- was too late by that point. but really it was just i- was too late by that point. but really it was just i was going in really it was just i was going iw—tteiee.- really it was just i was going iw—tteiee. i- really it was just i was going in-praise. i wasi in and getting praise. i was qeet— in and getting praise. i was good something. just good at something. so i just teit— good at something. so i just teit ttet-e— good at something. so i just felt that's all- good at something. so i just felt that's all wanted do. good at something. so i just f

70 t-e-tew7— put a £0.50 into a phone box to 20 p's-ten? and- put a £0.50 into a phone box to 20 p's-ten? and i- put a £0.50 into a phone box to 20 p's ten? and i thought, 20 p's and a ten? and i thought, ttie— 20 p's and a ten? and i thought, this.ridiculous. - 20 p's and a ten? and i thought, this.ridiculous. i- 20 p's and a ten? and i thought, this ridiculous. i need to this is ridiculous. i need to get— this is ridiculous. i need to qet-etutw- this is ridiculous. i need toj qet-etutw-i this is ridiculous. i need to. qet-etutw-i wewt this is ridiculous. i need to. ge study..study.| want this is ridiculous. i need to. ge study..yeah,iy.i want this is ridiculous. i need to gestudy. yeah,iyopenedwant this is ridiculous. i need to ge study. yeah,iy opened thet to study. so yeah, i opened the tueiweee— to study. so yeah, i opened the business with- to study. so yeah, i opened the business with a- to study. so yeah, i opened the business with a £100 and a lot of business with a £100 and a lot et tueiweee— business with a £100 and a lot of business was- business with a £100 and a lot of business was just teaching wewiei— of business was just teaching| martial-martial martial arts, teaching martial ewe— martial arts, teaching martial ewe-eit— martial arts, teaching martial arts-off twice- martial arts, teaching martial arts-off twice a- martial arts, teaching martial arts off twice a week in arts started off twice a week in arts started off twice a week in e tittie— arts started off twice a week in a little village- arts started off twice a week in a little village called braunton in a little village called braunton iw—i0000- a little village called braunton in -10,000 people in north devon. 10,000 people ewt— in north devon. 10,000 people ewt i— in north devon. 10,000 people ewt i we— in north devon. 10,000 people ewt i tuet— in north devon. 10,000 people and i was just doing things very tittetewtiw— and i was just doing things very tittetewtiw te— and i was just doing things very differently to everyone else. i wee-ite— differently to everyone else. i wee-it-e ew— differently to everyone else. i was it's an educational was just it's an educational system— was just it's an educational eweteww-etew- was just it's an educational system, sport. and system, not just sport. and teeetiwq— system, not just sport. and teaching them- system, not just sport. and teaching them not only self tetewee,— teaching them not only self defence, but- teaching them not only self defence, but using that the defence, but using that as the weet.— defence, but using that as the hook..everything- defence, but using that as the hook. everything that's not hook. so everything that's not teuqtt— hook. so everything that's not taught.schools- hook. so everything that's not taught schools teach taught at schools that we teach in eu— taught at schools that we teach in wewiei— taught at schools that we teach in our martial arts- taught at schools that we teach in our martial arts system like qeet— in our martial arts system like eeet-ewt— in our martial arts system like goal and determination, goal setting and determination, eewtitewee— goal setting and determination, eewtitewee ,— goal setting and determination, confidence , you- goal setting and determination, confidence , you could do confidence, you could do ewwttiwq— confidence, you could do ewwttiwq teu— confidence, you could do anything you want in life anything you want to be in life . if anything you want to be in life .—it teu- anything you want to be in life .—it weu teiil . it doesn't matter if you fail at-,_ . it doesn't matter if you fail a_, teu— . it doesn't matter if you fail a_, weu eew— . it doesn't matter if you fail a_, weu teu- . it doesn't matter if you fail at , you can you can go at school, you can you can go eut— at school, you can you can go eut ewt— at school, you can you can go eut ewt tit— at school, you can you can go out and hit your- at school, you can you can go out and hit your dreams and all my millionaire- out and hit your dreams and all my millionaire billionaire ttiewte— my millionaire billionaire friends-lot- my millionaire billionaire friends-lot of. my millionaire billionaire friends lot of them friends that a lot of them weiw-t— friends that a lot of them weewt-et- friends that a lot of them . hadn't-at school. hadn't done well at school. billionaire- hadn't done well at school. billionaire friends.- hadn't done well at school. billionaire friends. come. hadn't done well at school. billionaire friends. come on, give some name oh, give me some name drops. oh, you've got some summer coming here. quite you here. quite a few. don't you tite— here. quite a few. don't you tiw—weet.- here. quite a few. don't you like -yeah. yeah. like alfie best? yeah. yeah wewtewui— wonderful guy. come from wettiwq— wonderful guy. come from nothing. great- wonderful guy. come from nothing. great friend of mine. awe—et— nothing. great friend of mine. awe—et ttew- nothing. great friend of mine. and-of them who| and there's lots of them who eewelttete. — and there's lots of them whoi come .there. -course, come on there. and of course, tte— come on there. and of course, tie-teweue— come on there. and of course, the -famous-|'ve. the most famous ones. i've been wew— the most famous ones. i've been wew-ttet— the most famous ones. i've been wew-ttet-e- very privileged that such a young— very privileged that such a young-pari- very privileged that such a wequ-tew etl very privileged that such a. young-part of this young age to be part of this wwe— young age to be part of this iwwet-teetie. - young age to be part of this inner-people. so. young age to be part of this inner people. so when inner circle of people. so when eweewwe— inner circle of people. so when eeewe eiee— inner circle of people. so when everyone else is- inner circle of people. so when everyone else is going out ttiwtiwq— everyone else is going out drinking and- everyone else is going out drinking and nightclubs, i was

tewqiwq— drinking and nightclubs, i was tewqiwq eut— drinking and nightclubs, i was hanging out with the biggest etete— hanging out with the biggest eteteltte— hanging out with the biggest stars.the world- hanging out with the biggest stars the world and the stars in the world and the wealthiest- stars in the world and the wealthiest people in world. stars in the world and the vtwashiest people in world. stars in the world and the vtwas very people in world. stars in the world and the vtwas very privileged world. stars in the world and the vtwas very privileged that vorld. stars in the world and the vtwas very privileged that from i was very privileged that from 17 i was very privileged that from it weewe— i was very privileged that from it weewe ad,— i was very privileged that from 17 years old, they- i was very privileged that from 17 years old, they under 17 years old, they took me under tteit— 17 years old, they took me under their wine. — 17 years old, they took me under their wing. well,- 17 years old, they took me under their wing. twice 17 years old, they took me under their wing. well, that's that's that's saying, isn't it? hang around tramps. you're that's saying, isn't it? hang arot11th tramps. you're that's saying, isn't it? hang arot11th buttramps. you're that's saying, isn't it? hang arot11th but hangs. you're that's saying, isn't it? hang arot11th but hang aroundt the 11th one. but hang around with billionaires. with ten billionaires. you're the 11th one. exactly you to hang you. want hang around with you. you want to one in the to be the poorest one in the room. that's what they and to be the poorest one in the ridefinitely 's what they and to be the poorest one in the ridefinitely was �*iat they and to be the poorest one in the r

positive. you can do anything you— positive. you can do anything weu wewt— positive. you can do anything weu wewt te— positive. you can do anything you want to do. - positive. you can do anything you want to do. he kind of took we— you want to do. he kind of took we uwtet— you want to do. he kind of took we uwtet tie— you want to do. he kind of took me under his wing,- you want to do. he kind of took me under his wing, made sure i he me under his wing, made sure i te—te— me under his wing, made sure i te—te iwweet- me under his wing, made sure i te—te iwweet iw- he pushed me to invest in property— he pushed me to invest in tteteww et— he pushed me to invest in property at age, he pushed me to invest in. property at-age, and property at a young age, and i tetet— property at a young age, and i tetet tiw— property at a young age, and i hated him for- property at a young age, and i hated him for it- property at a young age, and i hated him for it at the time. i tewe— hated him for it at the time. i tewe tiw — hated him for it at the time. i tewe tiw tet— hated him for it at the time. i love him for it- hated him for it at the time. i love him for it now. he's a lot ttew— love him for it now. he's a lot more than bending that more than bending spoons. that wew—ue-ei man, that man's a genius. he's wew— man, that man's a genius. he's wew-wew— man, that man's a genius. he's very very intelligent. very clever, very intelligent. wew-t— very clever, very intelligent. wew-t tiwew— very clever, very intelligent. aren't fixed - as - very clever, very intelligent. aren't fixed - as well, i aren't fixed watches as well, actually, people actually, because we have people saying were saying that their watches were were actually fixed. so one lady sent to tell us sent a message in to tell us that thing, actually that his thing, it actually worked. also told me worked. yeah and he also told me that got touch that nine people got in touch with it had with him to say that it had worked well. so that's worked as well. so that's incredible. yeah. i've been all eeuwt— incredible. yeah. i've been all eeeuwt—tte- incredible. yeah. i've been all eeeuwt—tie quw- incredible. yeah. i've been all around-the guy and around the world, the guy and it's incredible.- around the world, the guy and it's incredible. people running teww— it's incredible. people running teww-eteet— it's incredible. people running down.street with- it's incredible. people running down street with spoons down the street with spoons for tiw — him to bend. i've been in ewiwwiwq— him to bend. i've been in swimming where swimming pools with him where ttet-we— they've handed him stuff and eteee— they've handed him stuff and. eweewe—tut spoons to bend and things. but yeah— spoons to bend and things. but yew-mave- yeah, he was a massive iwtieetiew— yeah, he was a massive inspiration.-ofj yeah, he was a massive. inspiration.-of his inspiration. it's more of his teeitiwe— inspiration. it's more of his positive mindset than that. he's not positive mindset than that. he's wet-etweeietiwq- positive mindset than that. he's not appreciating the uk, not so much appreciating the uk, but not so much appreciating the uk, tut ewee— not so much appreciating the uk, tut teu— not so much appreciating the uk, tut weu qet— not so much appreciating the uk, but once you get to- not so much appreciating the uk, but once you get to know him and you but once you get to know him and weu-iwetetitie— but once you get to know him and you-incredible home- but once you get to know him and you incredible home at you saw his incredible home at 17 you saw his incredible home at it weete— you saw his incredible home at it weete eit— you saw his incredible home at 17 years old, that- you saw his incredible home at 17 years old, that has an impact on 17 years old, that has an impact ew teu— 17 years old, that has an impact ew weu ewt— 17 years old, that has an impact on you and .albie- 17 years old, that has an impact on you and albie in his on you and he'll albie in his eweie— on you and he'll albie in his circle .friends.- on you and he'll albie in his circle friends. wow circle of friends. wow incredible,— circle of friends. wow . incredible,- how incredible, wasn't it? how amazing ? and of course, amazing is that? and of course, one things that one of the big things that you're being the you're known for is being the bodyguard . bodyguard to michael jackson. yeah. how did come about? yeah. how did that come about? and like? so and what was that like? so yuri's friend michael yuri's best friend was michael teeteew. —

yuri's best friend was michael jackson. -that. yuri's best friend was michael jackson.-that at| jackson. i didn't know that at tte— jackson. i didn't know that at the—wuet- jackson. i didn't know that at tte—wuti et- jackson. i didn't know that at the -yuri at the. the time. i knew yuri at the teqiwwiwq— the time. i knew yuri at the teqiwwiwaue— the time. i knew yuri at the beginningihe.it. beginning. he kept it all confidential. - beginning. he kept it all confidential. knew he had a confidential. i knew he had a wew— confidential. i knew he had a wew-ttiewte- confidential. i knew he had a very-friends and. very famous friends and tteeitewte— very famous friends and presidents would call and people like presidents would call and people iite ttet. — presidents would call and people iite ttet. tut— presidents would call and people like that. but yeah, he made ttet— like that. but yeah, he made ttet weetew.— like that. but yeah, he made that happen. he- like that. but yeah, he made that happen. he made that weetew.— that happen. he made that weetew. ue— that happen. he made that happen. he felt i think that iiieteei— happen. he felt i think that michael was- happen. he felt i think that michael was getting people tetiwq— michael was getting people taking advantage of him, and ttet— taking advantage of him, and ttet tuwet— taking advantage of him, and that turned out- taking advantage of him, and that turned out to be true. seeutitw— that turned out to be true. security companies and so forth etewiwq— security companies and so forth were charging him- security companies and so forth were charging him 150,000 a wewti— were charging him 150,000 a wewtt. ue— were charging him 150,000 a month. he couldn't answer the ewewe— month. he couldn't answer the ewewe-wew.- month. he couldn't answer the phone -them..he. month. he couldn't answer the. phone -them..he was phone around them. plus he was a wewiei— phone around them. plus he was a wewiei ettiet— phone around them. plus he was a martial artist. he- phone around them. plus he was a martial artist. he joseph teeteew— martial artist. he joseph jackson, his- martial artist. he joseph jackson, his dad, made sure was iiieteei— jackson, his dad, made sure was michael jackson- jackson, his dad, made sure was michael jackson into martial ewe7—it- michael jackson into martial ewe7—it iw- michael jackson into martial arts?-it in hisi arts? yeah, he puts it in his teweee— arts? yeah, he puts it in his dances.stuff.- arts? yeah, he puts it in his dances stuff. 11/t:?“ arts? yeah, he puts it in his. dances.stuff.iyeahididn't dances and stuff. yeah. i didn't realise course, realise that he is. of course, even moonwalk is of even the moonwalk is sort of like move . i don't know like a classy move. i don't know if like a classy move. i don't know it ttet-e— like a classy move. i don't know it ttet-e qeiwq— like a classy move. i don't know if that's going to- like a classy move. i don't know if that's going to help- e i i don't know if that's going to help you in a self—defence- if that's going to help you in a self—defence situation. what are you self—defence situation. what arei weu—teeteiite you getting away from? backslide ewew. — you getting away from? backslide ewew-eeeuwt— you getting away from? backslide away..around and- you getting away from? backslide away. around and run. away. turn around and run. but titte— away. turn around and run. but mite-wee— away. turn around and run. but mike,.was already- away. turn around and run. but mike, was already a black mike, he was already a black teit— mike, he was already a black teit iw— mike, he was already a black teit in tqu— mike, he was already a black belt in kung fu.- mike, he was already a black belt in kung fu. joseph jackson, his belt in kung fu. joseph jackson, tie tewew— belt in kung fu. joseph jackson, his father, made - belt in kung fu. joseph jackson, his father, made sure the teeteew— his father, made sure the jackson five - his father, made sure the jackson five learnt martial arts ewt— jackson five learnt martial arts ewt etwieueiw— jackson five learnt martial arts and obviously became hard for and obviously it became hard for tiw.— and obviously it became hard for tiw. se— and obviously it became hard for him. so .wanted - and obviously it became hard for him. so .wanted to - and obviously it became hard for him. so wanted to go and him. so he wanted to go and tteqteee— him. so he wanted to go andi tteqteee—te progress from a black belt to tte— progress from a black belt to tte-teqtee.- progress from a black belt to the-degree..yeahi progress from a black belt to the degree. yeah , progress from a black belt to. the-degree..yeah , yuri the second degree. so yeah, yuri twew— the second degree. so yeah, yuri twewleeuit— the second degree. so yeah, yuri knew i could trust- the second degree. so yeah, yuri knew could trust him. and knew i could trust him. and then we became this- knew i could trust him. and then we became this like inner circle ttiewte— we became this like inner circle friends where- we became this like inner circle friends where we'd- we became this like inner circle friends where we'd out with friends where we'd hang out with iietewet—

friends where we'd hang out with iietteuee — friends where we'd hang out with iietteuee tet— friends where we'd hang out with moihouse for dinner and it will his house for dinner and it will etut— his house for dinner and it will etut teww-e— his house for dinner and it will shut harry's down- his house for dinner and it will shut harry's down us so shut harry's down for us and so teww— shut harry's down for us and so teww eeeuw— shut harry's down for us and so forth, really..mark- shut harry's down for us and so forth, really. mark lester, forth, really. and mark lester, wwe— forth, really. and mark lester, wwe-etiqiwei- forth, really. and mark lester, who original oliver who was the original oliver iwiet,— who was the original oliver thee—best twist, who's michael's best ttiewt— twist, who's michael's best friend-became. twist, who's michael's best friend became the twist, who's michael's best. friend-became the man friend, and he became the man wwe— friend, and he became the man wwe-te— friend, and he became the man wwe-te we— friend, and he became the man who.to me, look,- friend, and he became the man who to me, look, you're who said to me, look, you're tewq— who said to me, look, you're eeiwe-wew— who said to me, look, you're teiwq-wew ,— who said to me, look, you're doing-now , but- who said to me, look, you're doing now , but stop doing great now, but stop weeeiwq— doing great now, but stop messing this messing around franchise this wine— messing around franchise this ttiwq eeuwt— messing around franchise this thing around the- messing around franchise this thing around the world. and i eeit— thing around the world. and i eeit ,— thing around the world. and i eeit , we— thing around the world. and i said , no one's- thing around the world. and i said , no one's ever done that said, no one's ever done that tetete— said, no one's ever done that teee-ewe- said, no one's ever done that before.-arts and. said, no one's ever done that before. arts and michael said, no one's ever done that befortthat's arts and michael said, no one's ever done that befortthat's exactly and michael said, no one's ever done that befortthat's exactly why michael said, no one's ever done that befortthat's exactly why micigot said, that's exactly why you got to said, that's exactly why you got te— twe- to do it. look what i've eetiewet,— to do it. look what i've. achieved,-and he to do it. look what i've- achieved,-and he kept achieved, you know? and he kept me achieved, you know? and he kept we—se— achieved, you know? and he kept we—se i— achieved, you know? and he kept we—se i tet- achieved, you know? and he kept me-so i had uri. me accountable. so i had uri eewet— me accountable. so i had uri eeiietlww— me accountable. so i had uri geller.my ear- me accountable. so i had uri geller my ear pushing me for geller in my ear pushing me for the geller in my ear pushing me for tie-eiee— geller in my ear pushing me for tte-eite ewt— geller in my ear pushing me for the side and michael the property side and michael tuetiwq— pushing me to franchise and iieewee— pushing me to franchise andi licence-around pushing me to franchise and. licence-around the licence my businesses around the weete.— licence my businesses around the wetit. awe— licence my businesses around the world. and that's- licence my businesses around the world. and that's exactly what teetewet. — world. and that's exactly what teetewet. see.— world. and that's exactly what happened. i “?t: happened. see, because i had my own but own fitness business. but i think it went wrong think that's where it went wrong because everywhere because i couldn't be everywhere or be so and or i couldn't be so and i employed people and it employed other people and it started more money. but started to make more money. but the next should been the next stage should have been franchising. interesting. exactly. that's what happened to me. exactly. that's what happened to _etett. — exactly. that's what happened to me. - staff. . next. me. i had 120 staff. the next eteqe— me. i had 120 staff. the next eteqe i— me. i had 120 staff. the next eteqe i-te— me. i had 120 staff. the next stage i.to expand- stage i had to expand it, but i titw-t— stage i had to expand it, but i titw-t-ttet— stage i had to expand it, but i didn't that thinking. didn't have that thinking. wteteee— whereas the people hanging eeuwt— whereas the people hanging around with- whereas the people hanging around with did. and that was the around with did. and that was twel— around with did. and that was ttel tiq— around with did. and that was ttel tiq teiwt— around with did. and that was the , big point make that the big, big point to make that jump— the big, big point to make that tuwt te— the big, big point to make that tuwt te tte— the big, big point to make that jump to the next- the big, big point to make that jump to the next they jump to the next level. they eew-t— jump to the next level. they tew-t teeet— jump to the next level. they don't teach you - jump to the next level. they don't teach you this stuff at eeteei7 — don't teach you this stuff at eeteei7 we.— don't teach you this stuff at school? no, they- don't teach you this stuff at school? \tt:::t t:t:“ e t:t:::t don't teach you this stuff at- school? no, they don't, do they? because rishi sunak said that we should more should sort of be teaching more maths you think he maths and stuff. do you think he was something

was slightly on to something in that we should learning more that we should be learning more about business should about kind of business we should be doing, you know, i went to a parents for my son parents evening for my son recently and there was two criticisms, which was his handwriting small and handwriting was too small and when he the times table when he does the times table thing on the computer, he takes too long he it. so too long and he misses it. so i said, well, i can solve that. said, well, i can solve that ttetiew— said, well, i can solve that ttetiew tet— said, well, i can solve that problem for give problem for you. give him a eeieuietet— problem for you. give him a calculator mathematics calculator for the mathematics tewew.— calculator for the mathematics. tewew—tee problem. that's all because he's going— problem. that's all because he's qeiwq te— problem. that's all because he's qeiwq te te-e— problem. that's all because he's qeiwq te te-e ewiw— problem. that's all because he's going to he's only 9 10 years going to he's only 9 or 10 years time. — going to he's only 9 or 10 years time. _te— going to he's only 9 or 10 years time. _te te- going to he's only 9 or 10 years time.-to be using. time. he's going to be using wetetiw— time. he's going to be using ttetettw te— time. he's going to be using ttetettw te eew— time. he's going to be using probably to say things and wewtiwq— probably to say things and wewtiwq-we- probably to say things and working we can, probably to say things and. working-we can, can't working out what we can, can't we-dewas— working out what we can, can't we,.devices-well,. we, with devices now? well, eweetiw. — we, with devices now? well, eweetiw. _ttei exactly. yeah. as far as the tewtwtitiwq— exactly. yeah. as far as the handwriting ,- exactly. yeah. as far as the handwriting , give handwriting, give him a tewteett— handwriting, give him ai keyboard. -who handwriting, give him a- keyboard. -who writes keyboard. you know who writes iettete— keyboard. you know who writes letters-there's - keyboard. you know who writesi letters-there's.app letters anymore. there's an app ewt— letters anymore. there's an app ewe—weete- letters anymore. there's an app ewe—weete tiwei and certainly in ten years time he and certainly in ten years time te-ttiwtiwq- and certainly in ten years time he-thinking he's. he won't just thinking he's uttetiwq— he won't just thinking he's updating teach- he won't just thinking he's updating teach people about tiwewee— updating teach people about. finance-investing finance and money and investing and finance and money and investing ewe teweteqiwq— finance and money and investing and leveraging mortgages and ttiwqe— and leveraging mortgages and twinge—.- and leveraging mortgages and. things-, because things like that. yeah, because you—i— things like that. yeah, because you i you you couldn't write. i mean, you can presume you can write now, i presume you wouldn't be. understand it? no. oh, really? so because. so i can type and everything.- oh, really? so because. so i can type and everything. yeah- o“ 1t:?ee«t7’ i so i can type and everything. yeah but i eew-t— type and everything. yeah but i eew-t tite— type and everything. yeah but i can't like write- type and everything. yeah but i can't like write a- type and everything. yeah but i can't like write a letter. i can uwtetetewt— understand it just about to wet — understand it just about to wet _tetl understand it just about toi myself. -had to. myself. but i never had to. i tuet— myself. but i never had to. i tuet tewe— myself. but i never had to. i tuet tewe te— myself. but i never had to. i just have to sign- myself. but i never had to. i just have to sign my name. so tit— just have to sign my name. so tit teu— just have to sign my name. so tit weu. — just have to sign my name. so tit weu. tit— just have to sign my name. so did you. did you- just have to sign my name. so did you. “j t: i just have to sign my name. so did you. t t: i did you. did you actually ever learn write then? or just learn to write then? or you just didn't went didn't bother because you went past of actually past the stage of actually learning to write? i could

write, but it- learning to write? i could write, but it.so- learning to write? i couldi write, but it.so messy. write, but it was so messy. the tewtwtitiwq— write, but it was so messy. the handwritunderstand it. i mean, couldn't understand it. i mean, ite— couldn't understand it. i mean, we ite— couldn't understand it. i mean, we it-e-iete.— couldn't understand it. i mean, it's. it's.late.iwas- couldn't understand it. i mean, it's. it's late. was 14 by it's. it's too late. i was 14 by ttet— it's. it's too late. i was 14 by ttet teiwt— it's. it's too late. i was 14 by that point and- it's. it's too late. i was 14 by that point and they were trying to_my_ that point and they were trying te—ww-tewqi to train me with my left hand, tut— to train me with my left hand, but-interested.i but plus, i wasn't interested. i tuet— but plus, i wasn't interested. i tuet-te— but plus, i wasn't interested. i tuet-te euwet- but plus, i wasn't interested. i just-to punch and. but plus, i wasn't interested. i just to punch and get out just wanted to punch and get out tweee— just wanted to punch and get out ttete ewt— just wanted to punch and get out there and kick- just wanted to punch and get out there and kick and- just wanted to punch and get out there and kick and get my tueiweee— there and kick and get my business-|- there and kick and get my business i didn't want business started. i didn't want a business started. i didn't want etet— business started. i didn't want etet. — business started. i didn't want etet. wett— business started. i didn't want etet. weti, weu— business started. i didn't want a job. well, you-also| a job. well, you talked also about your that about your property that encouraged buy stuff. so encouraged you to buy stuff. so talk to me about your property portfolio it's talk to me about your property port ofio it's talk to me about your property port of the it's talk to me about your property port of the biggest it's talk to me about your property port of the biggest one it's talk to me about your property port of the biggest one ithe one of the biggest one of the biggest south—west biggest in the south—west of england. yeah. he said england. yeah. i mean, he said to england. yeah. i mean, he said te-tte— england. yeah. i mean, he said to-the beginning,- england. yeah. i mean, he said to-the beginning, you. to me at the beginning, you knew— to me at the beginning, you know,.wasting- to me at the beginning, you know, wasting your know, stop wasting all your wewew— know, stop wasting all your money.ferraris- know, stop wasting all your money ferraris and know, stop wasting all your money.ferraris and like money on ferraris and stuff like ttet—ite- that and buy houses. it's a qeet— that and buy houses. it's a eteet—tite- that and buy houses. it's a. eteet—iwe 0we that and buy houses. it's a. great-erg one of great investment of erg one of the great investment of erg one of tie ttiwqe— great investment of erg one of the things.said-is. the things he said to me is ttet-te— the things he said to me is ttew-te wet— the things he said to me is they're not going build any the things he said to me is they'iland. going build any the things he said to me is they'iland. goi it's build any the things he said to me is they'iland. goi it's a build any the things he said to me is they'iland. goi it's a good any the things he said to me is they'iland. goi it's a good point. more land. so it's a good point. weet.— more land. so it's a good point. weet-lwtew— more land. so it's a good point. weet-lwtew i— more land. so it's a good point. yeah. when i legally yeah. so when i was legally eitewet— yeah. so when i was legally eitewet te— yeah. so when i was legally allowed to started buying allowed to 18, i started buying teueee— allowed to 18, i started buying teueee-tte— allowed to 18, i started buying houses -the time- allowed to 18, i started buying houses-the time i. allowed to 18, i started buying houses the time i was 22, houses and by the time i was 22, ttet— houses and by the time i was 22, ttet-we— houses and by the time i was 22, that-me financially- houses and by the time i was 22, that me financially able that made me financially able to not that made me financially able to wet-it— that made me financially able to wet-it i— that made me financially able to not-if i wanted- that made me financially able to not-if i wanted to,- that made me financially able to not-if i wanted to, i- not work. if i wanted to, i eeuit— not work. if i wanted to, i eeuit tewe— not work. if i wanted to, i could have retired and have eewiwq— could have retired and have income coming in from the property— income coming in from the tteteww—te- income coming in from the. ttetettw—te weww property to not have to worry eteut— property to not have to worry. eteut—tut about about anything else. but when— about about anything else. but. wtew—teette, when you're around these people, ttet-te— when you're around these people,| ttet-te—wewt they're pushing you and you want to they're pushing you and you want te—ete— they're pushing you and you want te—ete .— they're pushing you and you want te—ete . teu- they're pushing you and you want to-are . you want. they're pushing you and you want to-are . you want toi they're pushing you and you want to at are . you want to they're pushing you and you want to at their are . you want to they're pushing you and you want to at their levelre . you want to they're pushing you and you want to at their level thinking want to they're pushing you and you want to at their level thinking .int to they're pushing you and you want to at their level thinking . they be at their level thinking. they think— be at their level thinking. they ttiwt wtew— be at their level thinking. they think when you- be at their level thinking. they think when you around the think when you get around the wtie— think when you get around the table,-gossiping. . table, they're not gossiping. itet-te— table, they're not gossiping.. itet-te—wewt they're talking about the next we.— they're talking about the next teee—tte- they're talking about the nexti idea,-the world. idea, how to change the world. awe— idea, how to change the world. awe-wteie— idea, how to change the world. awe-wteie-itl and it was a whole for me. it wee-tte— and it was a whole for me. it was-the time. and it was a whole for me. it was-the time ,. and it was a whole for me. it was-the time , i. and it was a whole for me. it. was-the time , i didn't was normal at the time, i didn't

twew— was normal at the time, i didn't know.different.- was normal at the time, i didn't know different. imagine know any different. you imagine twiwq— know any different. you imagine twiwq te— know any different. you imagine twiwq te qe— know any different. you imagine twiwq te qe-te— know any different. you imagine trying to go to your trying to go back to your ttiewte— trying to go back to your friends -them. trying to go back to your. friends -them what friends and tell them what weuwe— friends and tell them what weu-we-tte- friends and tell them what you've the weekend. friends and tell them what. you've-the weekend. no you've done in the weekend. noj ewee—ttet you've done in the weekend. noj one's|been-that you've done in the weekend. no one's been hanging that you've done in the weekend. no one's been hanging witht you'd been hanging round with iiieteei— michael jackson and britney steere— spears, mohamed al—fayed, ttitwew— spears, mohamed al—fayed, . ttitwew—tew spears, mohamed al—fayed,. britneyeah.-her? spears, mohamed al—fayed,. britneyeah. she-her? spears, mohamed al—fayed, britneyeah. she seems “t:17 spears, mohamed al—fayed, britneyeah. she seems great. yeah. yeah. she seems great. i i— yeah. yeah. she seems great. i i eeeuw— yeah. yeah. she seems great. i mean, i really like- yeah. yeah. she seems great. i mean, i really like britney. yeah, yeah, she's wonderful. itet-we — yeah, yeah, she's wonderful. itew-te iqeet. — yeah, yeah, she's wonderful. they're good. just. they're all good. it's just. when— they're all good. it's just.. wtew—it-e when are that famous? it's teuqt— when are that famous? it's tough-_be- tough. wow. it must be so interesting in circle interesting to be in that circle when you're there. do you, in when you're in there. do you, in your go, crikey, am your mind, go, crikey, these. am i here? you ever your mind, go, crikey, these. am i that here? you ever your mind, go, crikey, these. am i that he of�* you ever your mind, go, crikey, these. am i that he of peoplei ever your mind, go, crikey, these. am i that he of people callr your mind, go, crikey, these. am i that he of people call it get that sort of people call it imposter syndrome, just imposter syndrome, but i just think only once went, we were think only once we went, we were michael jackson in london and he wanted to do something a little bit normal escape hotel bit normal and escape the hotel . so we went out the back door ewt— . so we went out the back door ewt we— . so we went out the back door ewt we wewt— . so we went out the back door and we went to- . so we went out the back door and we went to yuri- so we went out the back door and we went to yuri geller's teuee— and we went to yuri geller's teuee awe— and we went to yuri geller's house. and on- and we went to yuri geller's house. and on the way we stopped off house. and on the way we stopped ettle— house. and on the way we stopped ettle-tut— house. and on the way we stopped off.a-pub.sonnen- house. and on the way we stopped off.a-pub.sonnen ,. off at a local pub in sonnen, ewt— off at a local pub in sonnen, ewt ttet— off at a local pub in sonnen, and that was- off at a local pub in sonnen, and that was a- off at a local pub in sonnen, and that was a kind of a shock for and that was a kind of a shock tet ewewewe— and that was a kind of a shock for everyone. and- and that was a kind of a shock for everyone. and then we eweet— for everyone. and then we ettetet e— for everyone. and then we ordered a curry- for everyone. and then we ordered a curry takeaway and teiiwew— ordered a curry takeaway and teiiwew ewt— ordered a curry takeaway and delivery and we- ordered a curry takeaway and delivery and we watched, sat teww— delivery and we watched, sat teww ewt— delivery and we watched, sat teww ewt we— delivery and we watched, sat down and we watched a movie that was down and we watched a movie that iwetitet— down and we watched a movie that iwetitet by— down and we watched a movie that was inspired by yuri- down and we watched a movie that was inspired by yuri matrix and it's was inspired by yuri matrix and we tweee-e— was inspired by yuri matrix and we ttete-e e— was inspired by yuri matrix and it's there's a scene- was inspired by yuri matrix and it's there's a scene in there tewqiwq— it's there's a scene in there bending spoons. yeah keanu iteeee— bending spoons. yeah keanu iteeee ewt— bending spoons. yeah keanu reeves and all- bending spoons. yeah keanu reeves and all the and i sat on tte— reeves and all the and i sat on the fleet— reeves and all the and i sat on the floor and- reeves and all the and i sat on the floor and we- reeves and all the and i sat on the floor and we had david tieiwe— the floor and we had david blaine what- the floor and we had david blaine what security outside blaine what a security outside teue— blaine what a security outside because that's- blaine what a security outside because that's kind his

because that's kind of his ttiewt— because that's kind of his friend -then. because that's kind of his. friend-then david because that's kind of his friend uri then david because that's kind of his friend uri geller, then david because that's kind of his friend uri geller, michaelvid blaine uri geller, michael teeteew— jackson. i'm thinking, how the teet— jackson. i'm thinking, how the weet-ut— jackson. i'm thinking, how the weet-ut-weul heck did i end up here? you knew— heck did i end up here? you knew tewit— heck did i end up here? you know, david blaine, i wonder, wtet— know, david blaine, i wonder, wtet titw-t— know, david blaine, i wonder, what didn't he- know, david blaine, i wonder, what didn't he that thing what didn't he do that thing ewee—wete- what didn't he do that thing. over-that's right. what didn't he do that thing over that that's right. what didn't he do that thing over that allthat's right. what didn't he do that thing over that allthat's ritot. what didn't he do that thing over that allthat's rito be yeah. that was all it used to be eeuwt— yeah. that was all it used to be around us. quite- yeah. that was all it used to be around us. quite a- yeah. that was all it used to be around us. quite a bit. interesting- around us. quite a bit. interesting.of. around us. quite a bit. interesting of interesting interesting sort of interesting guy- _ interesting sort of interesting guy. .wew— interesting sort of interesting guy. .wewweu-te- interesting sort of interesting. guy. .now you're married to guy. and now you're married to a south pop star, monique? south african pop star, monique? yeah does she still sing and do stuff? she still sing? she stuff? does she still sing? she still releases albums and. 7 t ge g“7 she still releases albums and she tuet— still releases albums and she tuet eeeeeie— still releases albums and she just releases recently. just releases single recently. awe— just releases single recently. and-supportive. and she's very supportive of wtet— and she's very supportive of wtet-weew- and she's very supportive of what mean, we're very, what i do. i mean, we're very, very— what i do. i mean, we're very, weiw—twe- what i do. i mean, we're very, weiw—iwe qeti very, very busy what i've got going— very, very busy what i've got qeiwq-i-we-eiwl going on plus i've got six etiittew— going on plus i've got six children,.six- going on plus i've got six children, six children. i've children, so six children. i've wettet— children, so six children. i've worked -causing. children, so six children. i've. worked -causing that worked out what's causing that ewt— worked out what's causing that ewt ttet— worked out what's causing that ewt ttet-eeiw - worked out what's causing that and they calm down a bit. and they should calm down a bit. but and they should calm down a bit. tut-twe— and they should calm down a bit. but-i've-children,. but yeah, i've got six children, so but yeah, i've got six children, ee-tuew— but yeah, i've got six children, ee-tuew .— but yeah, i've got six children, ee-tuew . teu— but yeah, i've got six children, so busy . you know, but yeah, i've got six children,. so-busy . you know,.got so we're busy. you know, we got a so we're busy. you know, we got e iet— so we're busy. you know, we got e iet-ew— so we're busy. you know, we got e iet-ew ewt— so we're busy. you know, we got a lot-on and she- so we're busy. you know, we got a lot on and she kind a lot going on and she kind of weweeeq— a lot going on and she kind of weweqee-it- a lot going on and she kind of manages if weren't manages me. and if it weren't for manages me. and if it weren't tet—we- manages me. and if it weren't tet—we wewl for her, then there's no way ttie— for her, then there's no way ttie wtete— for her, then there's no way this whole matt- for her, then there's no way this whole matt four fs machine ewtiee— this whole matt four fs machine ewtiee weuit— this whole matt four fs machine empire would even- this whole matt four fs machine empire would even be happening. wewe—teeetiw- have you guys been together throughout, or you been throughout, or have you been divorced? rehearsal. divorced? no, i had a rehearsal. wife yeah we're on great wife first. yeah we're on great tee— wife first. yeah we're on great tee twe— wife first. yeah we're on great tee i-we qet— wife first. yeah we're on great terms. i've got three daughters witt— terms. i've got three daughters wwe-he.— terms. i've got three daughters with.her, madison- terms. i've got three daughters with her, madison and with with her, madison and s.......q._ with with her, madison and savannah and.- with with her, madison and savannah and. and i got three etiittew— savannah and. and i got three children with- savannah and. and i got three children with monique. zach 0-iieete.— children with monique. zach 0-iieete. so,— children with monique. zach o'meara. so, yeah , but we treat o'meara. so, yeah, but we treat ttew — o'meara. so, yeah, but we treat ttew eit— o'meara. so, yeah, but we treat ttew eii tte— o'meara. so, yeah, but we treat them all the same.- o'meara. so, yeah, but we treat them all the same. no difference .awt— them all the same. no difference .and we— them all the same. no difference .and we qet— them all the same. no difference .and we get ew—

them all the same. no difference . and we got on really well and we ttew-we— . and we got on really well and we see they've just- . and we got on really well and we see they've just been with us eetueiiw. — we see they've just been with us now actually. so- we see they've just been with us now actually. so yeah, she's tuqeiw— now actually. so yeah, she'si tuqetw—wtet-e now actually. so yeah, she's. hugely -what's she hugely supportive. so what's she uwtetetewte— hugely supportive. so what's she understands-she| understands entertainment. she uwtetetewte— understands entertainment. she understands -that. understands the pressure that i eew-t— understands the pressure that i eewt-et— understands the pressure that i eew-t-et wiqtt— understands the pressure that i can't.at night i,- understands the pressure that i can't.at night i, i- understands the pressure that i can't at night i, i have can't 11:00 at night i, i have to can't11:00 at night i, i have te eeet— can't11:00 at night i, i have to react..know- can't11:00 at night i, i have to react. know that's the to react. you know that's the ttiwq. — to react. you know that's the ttiwq. my— to react. you know that's the ttiwq. my wet— to react. you know that's the thing. my first wife didn't sign up thing. my first wife didn't sign ut—wewtet- thing. my first wife didn't sign ut—wewtet te- up for that. she wanted to eewettiwq— up for that. she wanted to something more normal, something a bit more normal, i queee— something a bit more normal, i queee-tut— something a bit more normal, i guess..but normal- something a bit more normal, i guess. but normal is boring. guess. no, but normal is boring. weiwei— guess. no, but normal is boring. weiwei ie— guess. no, but normal is boring. normal is boring- guess. no, but normal is boring. normal is boring .- guess. no, but normal is boring. normal is boring . and- guess. no, but normal is boring. normal is boring . and so- guess. no, but normal is boring. normal is boring . and so what's normal is boring. and so what's next? because i hear you've got some exciting news. you some exciting news. i know you can't say, give us clue. can't say, but give us a clue. i can't much it, but i can't say much about it, but i knew— i can't say much about it, but i twew-teew— i can't say much about it, but i twew-teew e— i can't say much about it, but i know-been a part- know you've been a part of it. so know you've been a part of it. 00 wweeit— know you've been a part of it. se wweett ewt— know you've been a part of it. so myself and boxercise have got the so myself and boxercise have got tie-twent— so myself and boxercise have got the.brand boxercise- so myself and boxercise have got the brand boxercise and the big brand boxercise and tiettewiwq— the big brand boxercise and kickboxing big the big brand boxercise and kickbcon,] big the big brand boxercise and kickbcon, which big the big brand boxercise and kickbcon, which is big the big brand boxercise and kickbcon, which is about big the big brand boxercise and kickbcon, which is about it's big going on, which is about it's going— going on, which is about it's qeiwq te— going on, which is about it's qeiwq te te— going on, which is about it's going to be announced on and twit— going to be announced on and tie tet.— going to be announced on and tie tet. se— going to be announced on and drip fed. so over- going to be announced on and drip fed. so over the next few tewe— drip fed. so over the next few tewe tweee-ii— drip fed. so over the next few days there'll be- drip fed. so over the next few days there'll be some more information- days there'll be some more. information-big information about that. so big eteut— information about that. so big news about mat- information about that. so big news about mat faddes martial ewe—ewt- arts and martial arts and teeie— arts and martial arts and boxercise and- arts and martial arts and boxercise and also for entrepreneurs, especially times like entrepreneurs, especially times iwe-,— entrepreneurs, especially times like-wham— like now, i want more entrepreneurs there. so like now, i want more- entrepreneurs.there. so i've entrepreneurs out there. so i've teew— entrepreneurs out there. so i've teew wew— entrepreneurs out there. so i've been very privileged nana with my eewei-li— been very privileged nana with my career. i launched my career. so i launched eewettiwq.— my career. so i launched something. it's- my career. so i launched something. it'sjust my career. so i launched something. it's just a my career. so i launched something. it'sjust a simple something. it's just a simple weteite— something. it's just a simple website called- something. it's just a simple website called club wwf dot aw,— website called club wwf dot aw, ewt— website called club wwf dot club, and it's- website called club wwf dot club, and it's just a simple subscription.- club, and it's just a simple subscription. and i'm trying to give— subscription. and i'm trying to qiwe teet— subscription. and i'm trying to qiwe teet te— subscription. and i'm trying to give back to entrepreneurs or tewietiwq— give back to entrepreneurs or tewietiwq-wew- give back to entrepreneurs or panicking now and property panicking right now and property teweietete— panicking right now and property developers-out|

developers who want to get out iewtiette— developers who want to get out landlords are- developers who want to get out landlords are scared because the iwteteet— landlords are scared because the interest rates-up- landlords are scared because the interest rates up and interest rates are going up and all interest rates are going up and eii tte— interest rates are going up and all the incredible- interest rates are going up and all the incredible lessons i've ieewet—ewtl learned from michael and eweewwe— learned from michael and- everyone-around everyone else who's been around me everyone else who's been around we iw— everyone else who's been around we in wt— everyone else who's been around we in my 77— everyone else who's been around we in my 77 weet— everyone else who's been around me in my 27 year career, i want to me in my 27 year career, i want te qiwe— me in my 27 year career, i want te eiwe-se— me in my 27 year career, i want to give -so that's- me in my 27 year career, i want to give so that's what i'm to give back. so that's what i'm wewtiwq— to give back. so that's what i'm wewtiwq-etut— to give back. so that's what i'm working.club and- to give back. so that's what i'm working club and then working on. club and then eewettiwq— working on. club and then something big- working on. club and then something big with boxercise is happeni“97_ something big with boxercise is happeningwa0b_ something big with boxercise is happening, you got to happening, so you got to come ewt— happening, so you got to come ewe—tit- happening, so you got to come ewe—tit teet- and train with me. i'll look tewew— and train with me. i'll look forward - crikey, . forward to that. crikey, i'm rubbish mean, all rubbish now. i mean, it's all left stuff. left me. all that stuff. but. matt if we're running out of matt so if we're running out of time. so a piece of advice to somebody mind somebody who in their mind thinks potentially, thinks that they potentially, you , they believe they can you know, they believe they can do they could a do something, they could be a billionaire believe billionaire because i believe i'm a billionaire. billionaire because i believe i'm what a billionaire. billionaire because i believe i'm what advicea billionaire. billionaire because i believe i'm what advice wouldtnaire. billionaire because i believe i'm what advice would you a. billionaire because i believe i'm what advice would you give billionaire because i believe i'nsomebody ice would you give billionaire because i believe i'n somebody who's uld you give billionaire because i believe i'n somebody who's looking give to somebody who's looking to really the to make the really do the best to make the most need believe what most you need to believe in what you're doing? first of all, find the wiete— you're doing? first of all, find the niche that- you're doing? first of all, find the niche that you're- 1t: t:t:::t “q7 first of all, find the niche that you're passionate eteut. — the niche that you're passionate about. -passionatei the niche that you're passionate about.it, passionate the niche that you're passionate about.it, don't passionate the niche that you're passionate about.it, don't it passionate the niche that you're passionate about. it, don't it pa the �*iate about it, don't do it in the ttet— about it, don't do it in the titet eieee. — about it, don't do it in the first place. you- about it, don't do it in the first place. you need. you're wet—teu- first place. you need. you're wet—weu ut- first place. you need. you're wet—weu ut et| first place. you need. you'rei wet—weu ut ett first place. you need. you're. not-you up at 5 or not going to get you up at 5 or 6 not going to get you up at 5 or e ew— not going to get you up at 5 or e iw— not going to get you up at 5 or e iw tte— not going to get you up at 5 or 6 am. in the morning ready to go 6 am. in the morning ready to qe—awt— 6 am. in the morning ready to qe—awt eew-t- 6 am. in the morning ready to go-and don't give. go every day. and don't give up, you— go every day. and don't give up, weu—ttel you know, don't listen to the wett— you know, don't listen to the weet-teu- you know, don't listen to the word -you can- you know, don't listen to the word -you can do. word you can. you can do ewwttiwq— word you can. you can do ewwttiwq teu— word you can. you can do anything you to do as word you can. you can do- anything you .to do as long anything you want to do as long as anything you want to do as long ee teu— anything you want to do as long ee weu teeew— anything you want to do as long as you dream believe and as you dream it, believe it and eetiewe— as you dream it, believe it and achieve -three. achieve it. they're the three tewe— achieve it. they're the three tewe-wetiwq- keys really to making that weetew. — keys really to making that happen. on happen. wherever you focus on wtet—teeue- what you get, if you focus on tewq— what you get, if you focus on teiwq-ttet-e- being negative, that's how teue— being negative, that's how. teue—teue you're going to be. if you're going— you're going to be. if you're eeiwe-teeitiw- you're going to be. if you're going positive, it's going going to be positive, it's going to

going to be positive, it's going te—ew— going to be positive, it's going te—ew tewq- going to be positive, it's goingj to-on being poor. to be you focus on being poor. teue— to be you focus on being poor.| tweee—wwe you're going to be poor, you're wet— you're going to be poor, you're wet-qet— you're going to be poor, you're wet-qet eut— you're going to be poor, you're not-get out.that. you're going to be poor, you're not get out that rut. not going get out of that rut. weuwe— not going get out of that rut. weuweeeue-t- not going get out of that rut. you've -focus on - not going get out of that rut. you've focus on being you've got to focus on being tiweweiei— you've got to focus on being financial-for- you've got to focus on being financial-for me,. you've got to focus on being financial for me, what financial stable. for me, what wetiwetee— financial stable. for me, what. motivates-generational motivates me now is generational weetw— wealth. so i want to leave eweuqt— wealth. so i want to leave. enough -children enough money for my children teue— enough money for my children teeeuee-qet— enough money for my children teeeuee-qet e— enough money for my children because.got a.of- enough money for my children because got a of them, because i've got a lot of them, tewe— because i've got a lot of them, tewe e— because i've got a lot of them, tewe euet— because i've got a lot of them, have a of grandchildren. one have a lot of grandchildren. one day— have a lot of grandchildren. one d.y,_do.-q_ have a lot of grandchildren. one dayt-don't-tol day, well, they don't have to wewt— day, well, they don't have to worry-pandemic- day, well, they don't have to worry pandemic lockdowns, worry about pandemic lockdowns, ewetqw—tel energy war and so on. i want to do energy war and so on. i want to te-teet— energy war and so on. i want to te-teet i— energy war and so on. i want to te-teet i eew— energy war and so on. i want to do.best i can. so- energy war and so on. i want to do best i can. so not do the best i can. so it's not eteut— do the best i can. so it's not about material- do the best i can. so it's not about material things. it's i ttiwt—e- about material things. it's i ttiwt—e tutwl about material things. it's i think-a duty toj about material things. it's i. think-a duty to look think we all have a duty to look ettet— think we all have a duty to look ettet-tuiit— think we all have a duty to look after build generational after and build generational weetw— after and build generational weettt—eewi after and build generational. wealth.-can help wealth. so i'm hoping i can help teeeie— wealth. so i'm hoping i can help people-marvellous.- people do that. marvellous. thank you're thank you very much. you're welcome. is, thank you very much. you're wecourse, is, thank you very much. you're wecourse, matt is, thank you very much. you're wecourse, matt fiddess, is, thank you very much. you're wecourse, matt fiddess, former of course, matt fiddess, former bodyguard jackson and bodyguard to michael jackson and a . really a entrepreneur. really inspirational. so inspirational. thank you so much, matt. well, stay tuned. join me now because the way join me now because on the way the great british i'm the great british debate i'm asking rishi losing asking is rishi sunak losing control? former home secretary priti swipe at priti patel has taken a swipe at the prime at the prime minister, suggesting senior figures suggesting that senior figures within done within the party have done a better job of damaging the conservatives than the labour party is she think she party. is she right? i think she is

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former home seetetew— losing control? former home secretary priti- losing control? former home secretary priti patel has taken a secretary priti patel has taken e ewiee— secretary priti patel has taken e ewite et— secretary priti patel has taken e ewite et tte— secretary priti patel has taken a swipe at the prime minister, euqqeetiwq— a swipe at the prime minister, euqqeetiwq ttet— a swipe at the prime minister, suggesting that government a swipe at the prime minister, suggdone g that government a swipe at the prime minister, suggdone a that government a swipe at the prime minister, suggdone a better government a swipe at the prime minister, suggdone a betterjobtvernment a swipe at the prime minister, suggdone a betterjob of rnment has done a betterjob of teweqiwq— has done a betterjob of damaging conservatives and damaging the conservatives and the damaging the conservatives and tie—.— damaging the conservatives and tte—. ste- damaging the conservatives and tte—. ste eiee- damaging the conservatives and the-. she also hit. the labour party. she also hit eut— the labour party. she also hit eutliite— the labour party. she also hit eutliite tet— the labour party. she also hit out mps for toppling boris out at mps for toppling boris tetweew. — out at mps for toppling boris tetweew. ste— out at mps for toppling boris johnson. she described him as the johnson. she described him as tte weet— johnson. she described him as the most electorally successful wiwe— the most electorally successful prime minister- the most electorally successful prime minister since margaret itetetew— prime minister since margaret thatcher, which- prime minister since margaret thatcher, which is clearly true. he tet— thatcher, which is clearly true. he tet ew— thatcher, which is clearly true. he had an majority. he had an 80 seat majority. moreover the - he had an 80 seat majority. moreover the former home seetetew— moreover the former home secretary also - moreover the former home secretary also slammed the party's— secretary also slammed the teww-e-teiieieel party's economic policies, eieiwiwq— party's economic policies, claiming.the- party's economic policies, claiming the public expect claiming that the public expect the claiming that the public expect tie—tewee- claiming that the public expect the -taxes down,| the tories to keep taxes down, wtiet— the tories to keep taxes down, wtiet ie— the tories to keep taxes down, which is currently- the tories to keep taxes down, which is currently they're teiiiwq — which is currently they're teiiiwq te — which is currently they're failing to do- which is currently they're failing to do so. this comes ettet— failing to do so. this comes ettet tte— failing to do so. this comes after the prime- failing to do so. this comes after the prime minister eewettet— after the prime minister scrapped only 600 of the 5000 eu tewe,— scrapped only 600 of the 5000 eu tewe, ewqetiwq— scrapped only 600 of the 5000 eu laws, angering ardent brexiteers wittiw— laws, angering ardent brexiteers wittiw tte— laws, angering ardent brexiteers wittiw tte teww.— laws, angering ardent brexiteers within the party. and that's not to within the party. and that's not te wewtiew— within the party. and that's not to mention sunak- within the party. and that's not to mention sunak position on iwwiqtetiew— to mention sunak position on immigration an- to mention sunak position on immigration an and he has vowed to immigration an and he has vowed te teuee— immigration an and he has vowed te teuee eewiuw— immigration an and he has vowed to house asylum seekers on tetqee— to house asylum seekers on tetqee ee— to house asylum seekers on tetqee ee e— to house asylum seekers on barges as a solution to the ewqeiwq— barges as a solution to the ongoing crisis.- barges as a solution to the ongoing crisis. i- barges as a solution to the ongoing crisis. i mean, with weeww— ongoing crisis. i mean, with teeww ieeeee— ongoing crisis. i mean, with heavy losses in- ongoing crisis. i mean, with heavy losses in the recent local eieetiewe— heavy losses in the recent local eieetiewe ee— heavy losses in the recent local elections as well- heavy losses in the recent local elections as well as sunak teeitiew— elections as well as sunak position looking somewhat more tteeetieue— position looking somewhat more precarious, what- position looking somewhat more precarious, what do you think?

do precarious, what do you think? 00 teu— precarious, what do you think? te weu ttiwt— precarious, what do you think? do you think that- precarious, what do you think? do you think that he's losing eewttei7— do you think that he's losing eewttei7 se— do you think that he's losing control? so for- do you think that he's losing control? so for the great ttitiet— control? so for the great british-this. control? so for the great british this hour, control? so for the great. british-this hour, i'm british debate this hour, i'm eetiwq— british debate this hour, i'm asking question. asking that very question. i'm teiwet— asking that very question. i'mi joined—poundw joined now by stephen pound, tewe— joined now by stephen pound, former-sophie. former labour mp sophie eewewe,— former labour mp sophie cochrane, political cochrane, former political commentator- cochrane, former political commentator ,- cochrane, former political commentator , sorry, ray brown, commentator, sorry, ray brown, teiitieei—w- commentator, sorry, ray brown, p0ufical_w ewtl commentator, sorry, ray brown,| political-, and lois political commentator, and lois teww— political commentator, and lois teww tweeter— political commentator, and lois perry, director of- political commentator, and lois perry, director of carr, 26. i'm going— perry, director of carr, 26. i'm qeiwaetew— perry, director of carr, 26. i'm going.start with- perry, director of carr, 26. i'm going start with you , sophie. going to start with you, sophie. do going to start with you, sophie. te teu— going to start with you, sophie. te weu ttiwt— going to start with you, sophie. do you think liz- going to start with you, sophie. do you think liz rishi sunak is ieeiwq—iw- do you think liz rishi sunak is. losing-in.sense losing control? well, in a sense , there's no way getting , there's no way of getting around this. the conservative party a disaster and party is facing a disaster and going into next general going into the next general election . the thing is, it's not election. the thing is, it's not just losing the next just about losing the next general it's okay. general election and it's okay. we've in we've lost. we can rebuild in five years. the fact of the matter labour have matter is what labour have looked voter looked to bring in is voter voting for 16 to 18 year olds voting for 16 to 18 year olds voting for 16 to 18 year olds voting for potentially eu citizens , voting for migrants, citizens, voting for migrants, and of course proportional representation. all of those things together means that not only will we lose, we will be locked out of government forever if the conservatives lose the next general election, there will be no more conservative party. and that is just a fact. we finished. done. we are finished. we are done. however the problems that we have and what i saw in the local elections, because we got battered in thurrock, i'm going

to i was to be honest, we did. but i was on the doors and people aren't enthused labour. they're just enthused by labour. they're just angry at the conservatives. so labour haven't won anything. we have just lost. and that means, however , for that all have to however, for that all we have to do is put the things that do to win is put the things that are right, is are wrong. right, which is perfectly so. rishi perfectly able to do so. rishi do you think in a year? yeah , i do you think in a year? yeah, i think i think absolutely- t:t:::t “ 7 yeah, i think i think absolutely you tewe— think i think absolutely you tewe-teww- think i think absolutely you have - down .the i think i think absolutely you. have - down .the taxes have to come down on the taxes iwwetieteiw— have to come down on the taxes immediately.in- have to come down on the taxes immediately in taxes if we immediately cut in taxes if we etee— immediately cut in taxes if we etet tte— immediately cut in taxes if we etet the we— immediately cut in taxes if we stop the war on- immediately cut in taxes if we stop the war on drivers. ' “t: stop the war on drivers. and weet— stop the war on drivers. and most importantly, big factor most importantly, the big factor here labour refused to here is labour have refused to rule coalition with the rule out a coalition with the lib dems, means in a sense rule out a coalition with the linou ms, means in a sense rule out a coalition with the linou get means in a sense rule out a coalition with the linou get labour,neans in a sense rule out a coalition with the linou get labour, you s in a sense rule out a coalition with the linou get labour, you get a sense rule out a coalition with the linou get labour, you get libtense if you get labour, you get lib dems. lib dems by by dems. if you get lib dems by by brexit. that's as simple as brexit. and that's as simple as that. let's go to stephen pound. stettew — that. let's go to stephen pound. stettew wette— that. let's go to stephen pound. stephen hello-afternoon| stephen hello there. afternoon is it wonderful to be the token male on a on a platform? it's quite unusual. you'd have to have a heart of stone not to have a heart of stone not to have some sympathy for rishi sunak. i mean, he goes down to saint mary's to watch his football southampton. football team, southampton. yesterday you know, they to yesterday you know, they lose to the fulham and they're the mighty fulham and they're relegated. this is relegated. and while all this is going in going on, meanwhile in bournemouth , there's shenanigans bournemouth, there's shenanigans at seaside where you've got

at the seaside where you've got this whole group of refuse nics and irredentist tories actually coming up with an alternative politics for him. so look, it's very , very difficult. i think very, very difficult. i think once control of your once you lose control of your own party and lord alone knows i've been in the labour party since , you know, was since, you know, since god was a little boy. mean, believe little boy. i mean, believe you me, what like to me, i know what it's like to lose own party. lose control of your own party. he's real, real trouble he's in real, real trouble there. and think, honestly, there. and i think, honestly, some stuff that we've some of the stuff that we've just heard, you know, just just heard, you know, nobody's suggesting about giving votes nobody nobody's suggesting about giving vo suggesting nobody nobody's suggesting about giving vo suggesting the nobody nobody's suggesting about giving vosuggesting the presentiody is suggesting at the present time, we've got war time, you know, we've got a war on those on motorists or any of those things. understand the things. but i understand the labour to hold on. labour party needs to hold on. stephen stephen, no stephen put out it's stephen, no queetiew— stephen put out it's stephen, no queetiewluewe— stephen put out it's stephen, no question have read stephen, question. have you read stephen, tewe— question. have you read stephen, tewe-teet— question. have you read stephen, have.read.papers.- question. have you read stephen, have read papers. is have you read the papers. he is euqqeetiwq—ie- have you read the papers. he is euqqeetiwq—ie .- have you read the papers. he isj suggesting-is . lois suggesting just that he is. lois teww— suggesting just that he is. lois teww-i— suggesting just that he is. lois ieww-i weew— suggesting just that he is. lois teww-i i- suggesting just that he is. lois perry i mean i was part of perry yeah. i mean i was part of tte— perry yeah. i mean i was part of the shenanigans- perry yeah. i mean i was part of the shenanigans that were going on-bournemouth- the shenanigans that were going on bournemouth last on in, in bournemouth last wett— on in, in bournemouth last .qgm, ee— on in, in bournemouth last wiqtt, ee i— on in, in bournemouth last night, so i don't- on in, in bournemouth last night, so i don't know what weuwe— night, so i don't know what you've-stephen. night, so i don't know what| you've-stephen but night, so i don't know what- you've -stephen but yeah, you've heard. stephen but yeah, so rishi sunak has absolutely no mandate. he's uninspiring . he is mandate. he's uninspiring. he is massive . pro net zero. you know, massive. pro net zero. you know, there's so massive. pro net zero. you know, ttete-e ee wewt— massive. pro net zero. you know, there's so many things- you know, there's so many things wrong witt— there's so many things wrong with tiw. — there's so many things wrong with tiw. ue— there's so many things wrong with him. he has- there's so many things wrong with him. it; there's so many things wrong with him. g

with him. he has a globalist agenda. with him. he has a globalist agenda . he has no connection agenda. he has no connection whatsoever with conservative party members who who didn't vote for him actually , he's vote for him actually, he's overthrown almost twice. two people, boris johnson an and liz truss. liz truss. sorry you know, so there's no there's no mandate. the party are so angry with him and there are almost two conservative parties at the moment . there's a real moment. there's a real conservative party that want low taxation probity , business, low taxation probity, business, low corporation tax and then there's this sort of globalist plot that's in number 10 at the moment. but i don't know what to say because i think labour will be so much worse. so do i. am i really advocating putting a new leader in? i don't i don't know what the answer i really what the answer is. i really don't . this is part of a wider don't. this is part of a wider ideological struggle within the conservative party and we saw this play out during the leadership election of last yeah leadership election of last year. it's why i supported liz truss during the leadership election. ibelieve truss during the leadership election. i believe that she was ttet— election. i believe that she was that-maverick- election. i believe that she was that- maverick that i i t:“ i believe that she was tha wanted, maverick that i t:“ i believe that she was thawanted, but maverick that i t:“ i believe that she was thawanted, but unfortunatelyit i t:“ i believe that she was thawanted, but unfortunately she we wanted, but unfortunately she tetet.— we wanted, but unfortunately she teiiet. awe— we wanted, but unfortunately she failed. and .the- we wanted, but unfortunately she failed. and the moment what failed. and at the moment what wewe-tte— we're seeing is the

establishment figure, rishi swee— establishment figure, rishi suwet, ie— establishment figure, rishi sunak, is part- establishment figure, rishi sunak, is part of the establishment and he's propped up ttie— establishment and he's propped up this establishment policy. wewe— up this establishment policy. we-we qet— up this establishment policy. wewe qet tte— up this establishment policy. we've got the highest- up this establishment policy. we've got the highest tax burden in years. we've failed to in 70 years. we've failed to build enough homes so that young people own people can afford their own homes. huge amounts of homes. we've got huge amounts of tequietiew— homes. we've got huge amounts of tequietiew ewt— homes. we've got huge amounts of regulation and red- we've got huge amounts of regulation and red tape. we've got regulation and red tape. we've eet—tew— regulation and red tape. we've qet—tew teet- regulation and red tape. we've qet—tew teet utl regulation and red tape. we've got tax back up to got corporation tax back up to 25, by— got corporation tax back up to 25, tw-wew — got corporation tax back up to 70 tw-wew tow- got corporation tax back up to 25, by way, 50% higher than 25, by the way, 50% higher than weiewq— 25, by the way, 50% higher than ireland, which- 25, by the way, 50% higher than ireland, which is- 25, by the way, 50% higher than ireland, which is why we're eeeiwq— ireland, which is why we're seeing companies like astrazeneca- seeing companies like astrazeneca to go over to weiewt— astrazeneca to go over to ireland where - astrazeneca to go over to ireland where there is lower eewetetiew— ireland where there is lower corporation tax. - ireland where there is lower corporation tax. so this is part of corporation tax. so this is part et e— corporation tax. so this is part et e wieee— corporation tax. so this is part of a wider ideological struggle . awe— of a wider ideological struggle . we we— of a wider ideological struggle . and we really- of a wider ideological struggle . and we really need to figure eut— . and we really need to figure eut-tte— . and we really need to figure eut-tte teww— . and we really need to figure out the party stands for. out what the party stands for. awe— out what the party stands for. awe-ttet— out what the party stands for. and -that-taxes| out what the party stands for. i and -that-taxes as and i hope that is low taxes as wet — and i hope that is low taxes as wet we— and i hope that is low taxes as well. we look- and i hope that is low taxes as well. we look like- and i hope that is low taxes as well. we look like a- and i hope that is low taxes as well. e “g well. we look like a swimming bath. is that where you are ? so bath. is that where you are? so i'm peter. i don't think that's an i'm peter. i don't think that's ew etquwewt— i'm peter. i don't think that's an argument to- i don't think that's an argument to remove the prime iiiwietet— an argument to remove the prime iiiwietet ewt— an argument to remove the prime minister and this- an argument to remove the prime minister and this is- an argument to remove the prime minister and this is the problem ttet— minister and this is the problem ttet we— minister and this is the problem ttet we tewe— minister and this is the problem that we have is- minister and this is the problem that we have is that we had a teeei— that we have is that we had a local election.- that we have is that we had a local election. but are the teteete— local election. but are the defeats really- local election. but are the defeats really rishi sunak for or defeats really rishi sunak for et ie— defeats really rishi sunak for et ie it— defeats really rishi sunak for or is it because- defeats really rishi sunak for or is it because the voters ttew-t— or is it because the voters titw-t-tewe- or is it because the voters didn't-have a- or is it because the voters didn't have a choice didn't really have a choice tetete— didn't really have a choice teiee-te— didn't really have a choice before .to make- didn't really have a choice before to make their voices before that to make their voices weeww— before that to make their voices weeww-we— before that to make their voices teett7-we wew- before that to make their voices heard?-no way he's. before that to make their voices heard? no way he's going before that to make their voices hewin no way he's going before that to make their voices hewin the no way he's going before that to make their voices hewin the nextno way he's going before that to make their voices hewin the next election e's going before that to make their voices hewin the next election .'s going before that to make their voices hewin the next election . no oing before that to make their voices hewin the next election . no way to win the next election. no way wteteeee — to win the next election. no way wteteeee -,- to win the next election. no way whatsoever. -, arnie . to win the next election. no way whatsoever. , arnie i whatsoever. i disagree, arnie i think— whatsoever. i disagree, arnie i ttiwt ite— whatsoever. i disagree, arnie i think it's perfectly within our eewttei. — think it's perfectly within our control. - also -

think it's perfectly within ouri control. -also-that, control. and i also think that, ttet— control. and i also think that, titet et— control. and i also think that, titet et eit— control. and i also think that, first of all, stephen, with the qteeteet— first of all, stephen, with the qteeteet-w— first of all, stephen, with the greatest-, the - first of all, stephen, with the greatest , the people greatest respect, the people tweee— greatest respect, the people there -conference . greatest respect, the people there conference last there are the conference last wiqtt— there are the conference last wiqtt i— there are the conference last wiqtt i-e— there are the conference last night i.a speaker- there are the conference last night i a speaker there. we night i was a speaker there. we weewt— night i was a speaker there. we weren't-refusenik. night i was a speaker there. we weren't refusenik nut weren't a bunch of refusenik nut tete— weren't a bunch of refusenik nut tete ewt— weren't a bunch of refusenik nut tete ewt it— weren't a bunch of refusenik nut jobs and it wasn't- weren't a bunch of refusenik nut jobs and it wasn't a, you know, ttiwq— jobs and it wasn't a, you know, ttiwq teet— jobs and it wasn't a, you know, bring back boris- jobs and it wasn't a, you know, bring back boris celebration or wtetewet— bring back boris celebration or whatever-was- bring back boris celebration or whatever-was it. bring back boris celebration or whatever was it was whatever you did. it was it was tueiw— whatever you did. it was it was ewew-wewee— whatever you did. it was it was purely never saying , never purely about never saying, never eeit— purely about never saying, never eete-wewt— purely about never saying, never eeithewt te— purely about never saying, never said .want to bring- purely about never saying, never said want to bring back said we want to bring back teweeteew— said we want to bring back democracy into- said we want to bring back democracy into conservative democracy into the conservative teww. — democracy into the conservative party. -thousands. democracy into the conservativej party. -thousands of party. so there are thousands of eetiwiete— party. so there are thousands of activists that- party. so there are thousands of activists that -their- party. so there are thousands of activists that their time activists that spend their time putting — activists that spend their time tuttiwq-ttteuqt- activists that spend their time putting through doors putting leaflets through doors and putting leaflets through doors ewe—teeie.- putting leaflets through doorsi and-doors..the and knocking on doors. get the weiee—iwl voice that they heard. but in tetwe— voice that they heard. but in tetwelitieti — voice that they heard. but in terms rishi sunak, the real terms of rishi sunak, the real reason-chaos. terms of rishi sunak, the real. reason-chaos that reason we are in the chaos that we were and the- reason we are in the chaos that we were and the real reason why we were and the real reason why we-eewtiete— we were and the real reason why we complete wipe—out in we faced complete wipe—out in the we faced complete wipe—out ini tie—teeeuee we faced complete wipe—out in the continually because we faced complete wipe—out in the continually rid because we faced complete wipe—out in the continually rid of ecause we continually got rid of ieetete— we continually got rid of leaders far- we continually got rid of leaders far too- we continually got rid of leaders far too soon. the second ite— leaders far too soon. the second ite queetiew— leaders far too soon. the second the guardian had- leaders far too soon. the second the guardian had something to say the guardian had something to eew ttet— the guardian had something to eew ttet tite— the guardian had something to say that mps.the- the guardian had something to say that mps the conservative say that mps in the conservative party— say that mps in the conservative teww-teeet— say that mps in the conservative teww-tweet eut— say that mps in the conservative party-freak out and- say that mps in the conservative party freak out and get party would freak out and get rid party would freak out and get it et— party would freak out and get rid of.leader.- party would freak out and get rid of.leader. we- party would freak out and get rid of leader. we cannot do rid of a leader. we cannot do ttet— rid of a leader. we cannot do ttet eqeiw— rid of a leader. we cannot do ttet eqeiw. se— rid of a leader. we cannot do that again. so rishi will take us that again. so rishi will take ue-tutete.- that again. so rishi will take ue-tutetelttei us back into europe. but the ttetiew —uei problem is keir will take us teet— problem is keir will take us back-quicker.. problem is keir will take usi back-quicker. so back into europe quicker. so you eetiw— back into europe quicker. so you weeww-te— back into europe quicker. so you really-to evils- back into europe quicker. so you really to evils ones. really do have to evils ones. we— really do have to evils ones. ite teee— really do have to evils ones. ite teee 7— really do have to evils ones. the lesser ? i- really do have to evils ones. the lesser ? i don't think so. i the lesser? i don't think so. i think— the lesser? i don't think so. i ttiwt wewe— the lesser? i don't think so. i think we've got- the lesser? i don't think so. i think we've got everything in our think we've got everything in euw-tte— think we've got everything in euw-tie wewt- think we've got everything in our the next general our stride for the next general eieetiew— our stride for the next general election -let's- election because let's be tweet,— election because let's be honest—ml election because let's be. honest,-no plans, honest, labour have no plans, tuet—il just got a war on drivers. i weuiu— just got a war on drivers. i wewe-uee— just got a war on drivers. i would-use the- just got a war on drivers. i would use the expression would never use the expression nutjobs. think that's nutjobs. i think that's demeaning insulting. demeaning and insulting. i called you bunch of refuseniks called you a bunch of refuseniks

. i know . no question about that. i know conor know stuart conor burns. i know stuart jackson. i know these people. i'm with many of i'm quite friendly with many of them, the second them, you know, but the second thing if honestly, if anyone thing is, if honestly, if anyone thinks remotest thinks there's the remotest chance they cat hell's chance chance they cat in hell's chance of rejoining the european of us rejoining the european union, really are union, then they really are living in cuckoo land or living in cloud cuckoo land or whatever the equivalent on bournemouth that is bournemouth beaches that is simply happen. can simply not going to happen. can you honestly imagine the rest of europe actually saying, oh yes, welcome , come back can you welcome, come back in? can you imagine saying, know, imagine spain saying, you know, we're demand we're not going to demand gibraltar come gibraltar back, but you can come back they're back in anyway. they're not going anyway. going to let us back in anyway. so can we. but we haven't really let so can we. but we haven't really iet-wett— so can we. but we haven't really iet-weet te— so can we. but we haven't really let-word to rhiannon. . let final word to rhiannon. eee.— let final word to rhiannon. 30s. rhiannon.— let final word to rhiannon. 30s. rhiannon. i've- let final word to rhiannon. 30s. rhiannon. i've got. let final word to rhiannon. 30s. rhiannon. i've got to say, i steven's right about i think steven's right about this. i mean, there is no chance ttet— this. i mean, there is no chance ttet we— this. i mean, there is no chance ttet we-teteiw— this. i mean, there is no chance that we . rejoin the - i mean, there is no chance that we rejoin the eu. that we will rejoin the eu. itet-e— that we will rejoin the eu. that's-conspiracy. that we will rejoin the eu. i that's-conspiracy theory that's total conspiracy theory stuff. what really stuff. what we really are teetiwq— stuff. what we really are. looking-ideological looking at is this ideological ettuqqie. — looking at is this ideological struggle. looking at is this ideological. struggle. .conservative party struggle. the conservative party don't what stand for. don't know what they stand for. and we've really got to and i think we've really got to ttiwt— and i think we've really got to ttiwt-wtet— and i think we've really got to think-what the- and i think we've really got to think what the future think about what the future teite. — think about what the future teite. it— think about what the future holds. if.want- think about what the future holds. if.want any. think about what the future holds. �*7 ii think about what the future- holds. if.want any chance of holds. if we want any chance of winning election, winning the general election, we've taxes. okay. we've got to cut taxes. okay. well, so much well, listen, thank you so much for well, listen, thank you so much qo._.b.qqm,- for that. reem ibrahim, tetitieei— for that. reem ibrahim,- political-sophie political commentator sophie eewewe,— political commentator sophie cochrane, commentator cochrane, political commentator ttettew— cochrane, political commentator stephen -former- cochrane, political commentator stephen former labour mp, stephen pound, former labour mp, and stephen pound, former labour mp, ewt teie— stephen pound, former labour mp, ewt ieie teww— stephen pound, former labour mp, and lois perry, director of car

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losing control? let's see what my panel make of that. joining me now, danny kelly and christine hamilton. so i'm going to start with you, danny kelly. is he losing control ? i think is he losing control? i think we're experiencing- is he losing control? i think we're experiencing a- “g i 7 i think we're experiencing a bit of a wutiww. — we're experiencing a bit of a wutiww. i— we're experiencing a bit of a mutiny. i really- we're experiencing a bit of a mutiny. i really do. you think? aqeiw— mutiny. i really do. you think? agan, i— mutiny. i really do. you think? aqeiw, i think— mutiny. i really do. you think? again, i think we- mutiny. i really do. you think? again, i think we are doing it eqeiw— again, i think we are doing it eqeiw. weet.— again, i think we are doing it again. yeah. and- again, i think we are doing it again. yeah. and you know, was he again. yeah. and you know, was we wetet— again. yeah. and you know, was we wetet iw— again. yeah. and you know, was we wetet in by— again. yeah. and you know, was he voted in by the- again. yeah. and you know, was he voted in by the great british tutiie7— he voted in by the great british tutiie7 07— he voted in by the great british public? of course,- he voted in by the great british public? of course, he wasn't wetet— public? of course, he wasn't wetet iw— public? of course, he wasn't wetet in by— public? of course, he wasn't voted in by the- public? of course, he wasn't voted in by the great british tutiie— voted in by the great british tutiie, wet— voted in by the great british public, not even- voted in by the great british public, not even by the great iew— public, not even by the great iew ete— public, not even by the great tory members. xeemq public, not even by the great tory members. >t

tietitutee ,— is just if you like, dealing in platitudes , he's- is just if you like, dealing in platitudes , he's dealing in platitudes, he's dealing in ttiwqe— platitudes, he's dealing in ttiwqe ttet— platitudes, he's dealing in things that are- platitudes, he's dealing in things that are going to pacify the conservatives. �*twt�*tzge the conservatives. well, he's got— the conservatives. well, he's got jeremy hunt there as his chancellor, which doesn't really inspire much sort of confidence inspire much sort of confidence in terms of, you know, removing operating the economy because jeremy hunt does come in and put a load of taxes in, which is what which seems have what they which seems to have pacified it pacified the market, but it hasn't worked well for pacified the market, but it hasthe worked well for pacified the market, but it hasthe great worked well for pacified the market, but it hasthe great british well for pacified the market, but it hasthe great british public. us. the great british public. yeah, well, i mean, obviously, itieti— yeah, well, i mean, obviously, itieti iw— yeah, well, i mean, obviously, rishi in terms- yeah, well, i mean, obviously, rishi in terms of- yeah, well, i mean, obviously, rishi in terms of our democratic systemi— rishi in terms of our democratic system we— rishi in terms of our democratic systemw te ie— rishi in terms of our democratic system, he is democratically, democratically- democratically legitimate teue— democratically legitimate because he - democratically legitimate because he is- democratically legitimate because he is the leader of on ttet— because he is the leader of on ttet teeie— because he is the leader of on that basis he- because he is the leader of on that basis he is.- because he is the leader of on that basis he is. but as you are,— that basis he is. but as you an we— that basis he is. but as you said, he doesn't- that basis he is. but as you said, he doesn't have the euttew— said, he doesn't have the eueeeu-iew- said, he doesn't have the support tory voters . said, he doesn't have the- support-tory voters . he's support of the tory voters. he's wewe—w tiel support of the tory voters. he'si never-in his own never been elected in in his own wiqtt.— never been elected in in his own wiqtt. awe— never been elected in in his own wiqtt. awe teeeie— never been elected in in his own right. and people feel that. and i right. and people feel that. and i think— right. and people feel that. and i ttiwt tte— right. and people feel that. and i think the tory- right. and people feel that. and i think the tory grassroots feel teewiiw— i think the tory grassroots feel teewiiw ttet— i think the tory grassroots feel heavily that they- i think the tory grassroots feel heavily that they voted for eewetetw— heavily that they voted for somebody else - heavily that they voted for somebody else twice. and over ttew— somebody else twice. and over their teete. — somebody else twice. and over their heads. they've got rishi ewt— their heads. they've got rishi ewt ttew— their heads. they've got rishi and they don't- their heads. they've got rishi and they don't like it. and the wiqtt— and they don't like it. and the wiqtt wiwq— and they don't like it. and the wiqtt wiwq et— and they don't like it. and the right wing of the- and they don't like it. and the right wing of the tory party who are right wing of the tory party who qettetet— right wing of the tory party who are gathered in- right wing of the tory party who are gathered in bournemouth, was it-weetettew— are gathered in bournemouth, was it-weetettew teei— are gathered in bournemouth, was it yesterday feel that he it only yesterday feel that he is it only yesterday feel that he ie-ttew— it only yesterday feel that he is-them down.- it only yesterday feel that he is them down. he's is letting them down. he's tettewiwq— is letting them down. he's betraying them. write betraying them. i had to write ttew — betraying them. i had to write ttew teww. — betraying them. i had to write them down. these things are them down. what these things are that them down. what these things are ttet ttew— them down. what these things are ttet ttew tewe— them down. what these things are that they have promised to do. weiwiwq—iw- that they have promised to do. halving-in the halving inflation growth in the

economy, reducing the national tew— economy, reducing the national tett, euttiwq— economy, reducing the national debt, cutting waiting lists and etettiwq— debt, cutting waiting lists and etettiwq tte— debt, cutting waiting lists and stopping the boats. those are his stopping the boats. those are tie tietqee. — stopping the boats. those are his pledges. and- stopping the boats. those are his pledges. and there has been tteeieue— his pledges. and there has been precious little- his pledges. and there has been precious little performance on on precious little performance on ew eww— precious little performance on ew eww et— precious little performance on on any of those- precious little performance on on any of those that is the tteutie— on any of those that is the trouble. and- on any of those that is the trouble. and of- on any of those that is the trouble. and of course, the teeiee— trouble. and of course, the ietiee teeeie— trouble. and of course, the tories people are panicking teue— tories people are panicking because they- tories people are panicking because they can see the eieetiew — because they can see the election getting closer and ieeee— election getting closer and ieeee awe— election getting closer and closer. and although starmer is eteut— closer. and although starmer is about-unexciting. closer. and although starmer is about unexciting man on about the most unexciting man on the tiewet,— about the most unexciting man on the tiewet, eti— about the most unexciting man on the planet, all he- about the most unexciting man on the planet, all he has to do is eteeew— the planet, all he has to do is eteetw tte— the planet, all he has to do is steady the boat,- the planet, all he has to do is steady the boat, keep his left wing— steady the boat, keep his left wiwq-ewq— steady the boat, keep his left wiwq-ewt, teu- steady the boat, keep his left wing and, you know, decide wing down and, you know, decide wtet— wing down and, you know, decide wtet e— wing down and, you know, decide wtet e wewe— wing down and, you know, decide what a woman is- wing down and, you know, decide what a woman is and things like ttet. — what a woman is and things like ttet. tut— what a woman is and things like ttet. tut i— what a woman is and things like that. but i think- what a woman is and things like that. but i think he- what a woman is and things like that. but i think he i- what a woman is and things like that. but i think he i think starmer could potentially mess this seeing as starmer could potentially mess this leaking seeing as starmer could potentially mess this leaking thingsing as starmer could potentially mess this leaking things are as starmer could potentially mess this leaking things are being he's leaking or things are being leaked that leaked from the manifesto that aren't favourable, aren't really very favourable, like 16 and 17 year like inviting 16 and 17 year olds to which looks like like inviting 16 and 17 year olds rigging which looks like like inviting 16 and 17 year olds rigging waari looks like like inviting 16 and 17 year olds rigging waar as oks like like inviting 16 and 17 year olds rigging waar as i'm like vote rigging as far as i'm concerned. also people who concerned. and also people who aren't this aren't sort of citizens of this country. seems a bit odd to country. that seems a bit odd to me you do that, me that you would do that, seeing other eu country is seeing as no other eu country is doing know, he doing that. and, you know, he doesn't be doing this doesn't need to be doing this and the and he's doing it. the dirty tncks and he's doing it. the dirty tricks that out tricks campaign that he put out there it's bit unsavoury. there, it's a bit unsavoury. what about? it's his what was that about? it's his it's the what was that about? it's his it's.the election- what was that about? it's his it's.the election is- it's his the election is starmer's to- it's his the election is starmer's to lose where we are tut— starmer's to lose where we are tut te-e— starmer's to lose where we are tut tee-e- starmer's to lose where we are now. but he's a good job. now. but he's doing a good job. teeeie— now. but he's doing a good job. teeeie-ttie.— now. but he's doing a good job. people-this. and- now. but he's doing a good job.i people-this. and-in people sense this. and people in the people sense this. and people in tte-teww— people sense this. and people in tie-teww eewee— people sense this. and people in the party sense that the tory party sense that ttew-te—

the tory party sense that ttew-te-ewt- the tory party sense that they're and they're on they're failing and they're on they're failing and they're on the etiee— they're failing and they're on the slide and- they're failing and they're on the slide and they're not going to the slide and they're not going te qet— the slide and they're not going te qet it— the slide and they're not going te get it teet— the slide and they're not going to get it back. and once people etew—weu-ii- to get it back. and once people eteet—teutt qetl start to feel that, you'll get wtet— start to feel that, you'll get wtet ee— start to feel that, you'll get wtet ee i— start to feel that, you'll get what as i think- start to feel that, you'll get what as i think i- start to feel that, you'll get what as i think i said earlier in tte— what as i think i said earlier in the programme, what they need to in the programme, what they need te te— in the programme, what they need te te ie— in the programme, what they need te te ie tte— in the programme, what they need to do is the people,- in the programme, what they need to do is the people, the real conservatives- to do is the people, the real. conservatives -the conservatives in the party, the bournemouth- conservatives in the party, the bourrtotouth- conservatives in the party, the bourrto break- conservatives in the party, the bourrto break away because we need to break away because we tewew-t— need to break away because we tewew-t tet— need to break away because we tewew-t tet e— need to break away because we haven't had a tory- need to break away because we haven't had a tory prime iiiwietew— haven't had a tory prime minister, conservative prime minister, a conservative prime iiiwietet— minister, a conservative prime. minister-thatcher minister since margaret thatcher and minister since margaret thatcher ewt itieti — minister since margaret thatcher ewt itieti ie— minister since margaret thatcher and rishi is certainly not conservative- and rishi is certainly not conservative in the sense that ttet— conservative in the sense that ttet i— conservative in the sense that that i understand- conservative in the sense that that i understand conservatives ewt— that i understand conservatives ewt i— that i understand conservatives ewt i wewte— that i understand conservatives and i wonder whether priti patel , eeww— and i wonder whether priti patel , eewt te— and i wonder whether priti patel , sorry to interject- and i wonder whether priti patel , sorry to interject whether she witt— , sorry to interject whether she wiii te — , sorry to interject whether she will be internally- , sorry to interject whether she will be internally disciplined or disciplined- will be internally disciplined or disciplined internally if tweee-e— or disciplined internally if ttete-e e— or disciplined internally if there's a subtle difference, a nuance difference , i'm sure nuance difference, i'm sure tweee— nuance difference, i'm sure ttete ie. — nuance difference, i'm sure ttete ie. t— nuance difference, i'm sure ttete ie. ., i— nuance difference, i'm sure there is. e there is. i, i eternal. it's funny how you can read a number of things. keep going. danny yeah. so. so i wonder whether she's going to get a rollicking i mean, what happens behind closed she closed doors? does she get ianed closed doors? does she get invited 10? not invited to number 10? not ianed invited to number 10? not invited to number 10? not invited to number 10? not invited to number 10, invited, summoned to number 10, but she's allowed have an but she's allowed to have an opinion. yes , but she's opinion. yes, but she's undermining- “ yes, but she's undermining the prime minister. i undermining the prime minister. i eew-t— undermining the prime minister. i tew-t ttiwt— undermining the prime minister. i don't think.can- undermining the prime minister. i don't think can happen . i don't think that can happen. weie-e— i don't think that can happen. there's much-do. . i don't think that can happen. there's much do. no more. there's much he can do. no more. it's there's much he can do. no more. it-e-tet— there's much he can do. no more. it-e-tet tweee— there's much he can do. no more. it's-for those to- it's important for those to eteet— it's important for those to eteet-ewt— it's important for those to speak and what speak out and say what they twink.—

speak out and say what they teww—ttie- speak out and say what they think.-this isn't. think. you know, this isn't wewtiwq— think. you know, this isn't working-them. think. you know, this isn't working them and we think. you know, this isn't- working-them and we need working out for them and we need reassurance.-people. working out for them and we need reassurance. people in reassurance. there are people in the reassurance. there are people in tie-ttet— reassurance. there are people in tie-ttet eew— reassurance. there are people in the -that can see- reassurance. there are people in the that can see sense if reassurance. there are people in the are that can see sense if reassurance. there are people in the are to at can see sense if reassurance. there are people in the are to attractsee sense if reassurance. there are people in the are to attractsee svotersf there are to attract any voters at there are to attract any voters et-te-e— there are to attract any voters et-te-e qet— there are to attract any voters et-te-e qet eww- there are to attract any votersi at-he's got any sense, at all. if he's got any sense, rishi will ask her to come in and say, look, we're in trouble. what can do what can we do? what can we do together part of together to help? she's part of okay. together to help? she's part of ewew-teeiee— together to help? she's part of okay. -tories don't- together to help? she's part of okay. -tories don't get. okay. if the tories don't get in, okay. if the tories don't get iw-tew— okay. if the tories don't get iw-tew et— okay. if the tories don't get in,-part of the- okay. if the tories don't get in, part of the problem. in, she's part of the problem. i mean,.alternative- in, she's part of the problem. i mean, alternative is, is mean, the alternative is, is ttet— mean, the alternative is, is ttet-eeew- mean, the alternative is, is that-again, one. mean, the alternative is, is. that-again, one .the that i think, again, one of the contributors -this. contributors said that this eeuit— contributors said that this. eeuit—tte could be the demise and the tetwewewt— could be the demise and the permanent demise and the end of the conservative- permanent demise and the end of the conservative party . well, the conservative party. well, ite— the conservative party. well, it-e-tetete- the conservative party. well, it's-before our. the conservative party. well, it's before our very it's fracturing before our very eyes— it's fracturing before our very eyesw tut— it's fracturing before our very eyes, but that's- it's fracturing before our very eyes, but that's people eyes, but that's what people eeit— eyes, but that's what people eete-teeewt- eyes, but that's what people eete-teteww. - eyes, but that's what people said jeremy . q; said about jeremy. jeremy eettww— said about jeremy. jeremy corbyn. that? saw corbyn. remember that? we saw that labour party. that with the labour party. they've been they've been they've been out many they've been locked out for many years were years as well. so but there were no like factions years as well. so but there were nothe like factions years as well. so but there were nothe party (e factions years as well. so but there were nothe party that :tions years as well. so but there were no the party that were of the labour party that were going away. now you've going to break away. now you've got going to break away. now you've qet-itetetw— going to break away. now you've got.reform-you've. going to break away. now you've got. reform -you've got i got the reform party, you've got eeweewetiwe— got the reform party, you've got conservative - doubt i conservative mps and no doubt ete— conservative mps and no doubt weweee-— conservative mps and no doubt weteeee- wwt— conservative mps and no doubt voters are. why you voters who are. why are you ieuqtiwq7— voters who are. why are you| ieuqtiwq7—it-e laughing? well, because it's wetiwe— making me laugh that they're teeetiwq—il making me laugh that they're. breaking-| mean, breaking themselves up. i mean, this breaking themselves up. i mean, ttie-ttew— breaking themselves up. i mean, ttielttew tet— breaking themselves up. i mean, this.they had an- breaking themselves up. i mean, this they had an 88 seat this is they had an 88 seat majority. they don't need to be in this position at all. how they've done this is because they've done this is because they they didn't need an opposition. their own opposition. they were their own opposition. they were their own oppositionfought within then they fought within themselves they got rid themselves and now they got rid of one leader and another and

another. they did another. they they just did not listen british public. listen to the british public. they they didn't do they ignored us. they didn't do anything for us. and we are anything for us. and now we are where are. keep banging on where we are. keep banging on eteut— where we are. keep banging on eteut teeie— where we are. keep banging on about boris johnson- ?1t: keep banging on about boris johnson too as about boris johnson too much as wet.— about boris johnson too much as wet itet— about boris johnson too much as wet itet wet— about boris johnson too much as well. that mob from bournemouth, about boris johnson too much as well. that to 3b from bournemouth, about boris johnson too much as well. that to 3b fhim bournemouth, about boris johnson too much as well. that to 3b fhim bou theyouth, they need to let him go. they weet—it.- they need to let him go. they weet—it. - they need to let him go. they need-it. you're. they need to let him go. they. need-it. you're just need to exorcise it. you're just going there absolutely need to exorcise it. you're just goiway there absolutely need to exorcise it. you're just goiway cane absolutely need to exorcise it. you're just goiway can come)solutely need to exorcise it. you're just goiway can come back. ely no way boris can come back. the tory have been like a soap tory party have been like a soap opera. will opera. how many leaders will come back anyway? why would he? he's making millions, but he eet — he's making millions, but he eet ttew. — he's making millions, but he can't. they. they-to. he's making millions, but he. can't. they. they-to forget can't. they. they need to forget that. completely. need can't. they. they need to forget th.forget completely. need can't. they. they need to forget th.forget it.mpletely. need can't. they. they need to forget th.forget it. it'sttely. need can't. they. they need to forget th.forget it. it's like need can't. they. they need to forget th.forget it. it's like they'veaed to forget it. it's like they've teew — to forget it. it's like they've been ditched- to forget it. it's like they've been ditched by- to forget it. it's like they've been ditched by.ex- g e it's like they've been ditched by ex and they been ditched by an ex and they eew-t— been ditched by an ex and they eewt-ewei— been ditched by an ex and they can't .over. exactly. . been ditched by an ex and theyi can't.over. exactly. they can't get over it. exactly. they need. -obsessed- can't get over it. exactly. theyi need. -obsessed.it. need. they're obsessed with it. they— need. they're obsessed with it. ttew—ewt- need. they're obsessed with it. ttew—ewt wewl they ditched the ex, and now ttew— they ditched the ex, and now. ttew—wewee they want them back. they're wetetiw— they want them back. they're wetetw-ttew— they want them back. they're nobody them that. nobody told them to do that. it's too late. people like me looked said, get on looked and said, just get on with you do with running the economy. you do a good the economy. a good job in the economy. people do people will forgive you. just do a didn't a good job. they didn't they couldn't were couldn't be bothered. they were too . it's all on too self obsessed. it's all on eieetiew— too self obsessed. it's all on election . it's- too self obsessed. it's all on election.it's.going. too self obsessed. it's all onj election.it's.going to election day. it's all going to eeweew- i- election day. it's all going to come am i feeling come down to, am i feeling tettet— come down to, am i feeling better.under- come down to, am i feeling better under this because of better off under this because of wtet— better off under this because of wtet ttie— better off under this because of what this government has done eweteete-w7— what this government has done over-years? that. over the last x years? that is tew— over the last x years? that is wew-wete.— over the last x years? that is how-vote. it's- over the last x years? that is how-vote. it's the . how people vote. it's the economy,-the economy, stupid. it's the eeeweww— economy, stupid. it's the y . it— economy, stupid. it's the economy . it is.- economy, stupid. it's the economy . it is. and it'll be economy. it is. and it'll be tweee— economy. it is. and it'll be tteee tiwe— economy. it is. and it'll be those five pledges also. what tee— those five pledges also. what tee te— those five pledges also. what tee te tewe— those five pledges also. what has he done on- those five pledges also. what has he done on those? ge has he done on those? i'm still wet— has he done on those? i'm still wet teeew— has he done on those? i'm still not happy with the keir starmer though. regard the woman

not happy with the keir starmer thougii regard the woman not happy with the keir starmer thougii find ard the woman not happy with the keir starmer thougii find iti the woman not happy with the keir starmer thougii find it rather; woman thing, i just find it rather unsavoury. you know, these five ttetqee— unsavoury. you know, these five ttetqee te-e— unsavoury. you know, these five pledges, he's honestly- e. 1g you know, these five pledges, he's honestly just wtittew— written down what he what he wewte— written down what he what he. wewte—teeew-t wants people to hear. he doesn't give— wants people to hear. he doesn't eiwe—wet- give it. he knows they're not eetiewetie— achievable. maybe the inflation ttiwq— achievable. maybe the inflation ttiwq ie. — achievable. maybe the inflation ttiwq ie. tut— achievable. maybe the inflation thing is. but the- achievable. maybe the inflation thing is. but the inflation, well , well, he thought that well, well, he thought that would anyway. he's just would happen anyway. he's just gone way. would happen anyway. he's just gone -way. throwing. gone the other way. throwing out red gone the other way. throwing out tet—te- gone the other way. throwing out tet—we eew-ti red meat, knowing that he can't eetiewe—it-el achieve any of them. no, it's true— achieve any of them. no, it's true . — achieve any of them. no, it's true . no. well,- achieve any of them. no, it's true . \gt well, he can get true. no. well, he can get iwtietiew— true. no. well, he can get inflation. of- true. \gt well, he can get inflation. of course he can. he qet— inflation. of course he can. he can get inflation- inflation. of course he can. he can get inflation down. he can cut can get inflation down. he can eut iiieqei— can get inflation down. he can cut illegal immigration if he tuet— cut illegal immigration if he tuet iw— cut illegal immigration if he tuet iw tte— cut illegal immigration if he just in the next- cut illegal immigration if he just in the next 18 months on ewt— just in the next 18 months on ewt teee— just in the next 18 months on ewt teeelet— just in the next 18 months on and does.at the- just in the next 18 months on and does at the moment, all and does it at the moment, all we— and does it at the moment, all te-e-teuiiwq- and does it at the moment, all he's-hauling in- and does it at the moment, all he's hauling in barges he's doing is hauling in barges ewt— he's doing is hauling in barges ewt weetiwq— he's doing is hauling in barges and mooring them in cornwall. itet— and mooring them in cornwall. itet iew-t— and mooring them in cornwall. that isn't stopping . 37�*1 e that isn't stopping. priti patel is managing counterproductive to the conservative party and what they're trying to achieve . if they're trying to achieve. if i was a boss, i'd have a in behind closed doors and i would discipline her without a shudder. i don't think i'd be put in a place. no, i don't think— put in a place. no, i don't ttiwt ee— put in a place. no, i don't think so. and- put in a place. no, i don't think so. and i- put in a place. no, i don't think so. and i don't- “ i no, i don't think so. and i don't think that wett— think so. and i don't think that week eut. — think so. and i don't think that work out. priti- think so. and i don't think that work out. priti patel is a etewq— work out. priti patel is a strong, confident woman. she's got strong, confident woman. she's qet e— strong, confident woman. she's qet e wew— strong, confident woman. she's qet e wew qeet— strong, confident woman. she's got a very good point and i'm witt— got a very good point and i'm with wet— got a very good point and i'm with tet eti— got a very good point and i'm with her all the- got a very good point and i'm with her all the way. unfortunately with her all the way. - unfortunately-conservative with her all the way. unfortunat

party secret loyalty was their secret weapon and they've lost it. yeah, secret weapon and they've lost it . yeah, well, there's nothing it. yeah, well, there's nothing witteut— it. yeah, well, there's nothing witteut teu— it. yeah, well, there's nothing without you and - e yeah, well, there's nothing without you and your views. iet-e—euti without you and your views. . let's-our great let's welcome some of our great ttitiet— let's welcome some of our great british voices.- let's welcome some of our great british voices. their- british voices. their opportunity on british voices. their opportunity-on show opportunity to be on the show ewt— opportunity to be on the show ewt-wtet— opportunity to be on the show and -what.think. and tell us what they think eteut— and tell us what they think about.topics- and tell us what they think about topics we're about the topics we're discussing- about the topics we're discussing i've about the topics we're discussing-|'ve four discussing today. i've got four of.excellent- discussing today. i've got four of. excellent let's - discussing today. i've got four of excellent let's start of you. excellent let's start witt— of you. excellent let's start with 0t- — of you. excellent let's start with dr. mudaliar in milton wewee.— with dr. mudaliar in milton wewwee. ow— with dr. mudaliar in milton keynes. oh, just two. oh, you twe— keynes. oh, just two. oh, you twe eqeiw— keynes. oh, just two. oh, you twe eqeiw ew— keynes. oh, just two. oh, you two again on no- keynes. oh, just two. oh, you two again on no ,- keynes. oh, just two. oh, you two again on no , i'm joking. two again on no, i'm joking. ieteeietiw.— two again on no, i'm joking. ieteeieiiw. why— two again on no, i'm joking. especially. why where's the ettete7— especially. why where's the ettete7 wwt— especially. why where's the others? why are - especially. why where's the others? why are we going to get to others? why are we going to get te tteee— others? why are we going to get te tteee tewe7— others? why are we going to get to these days? stephanie, on, to these days? stephanie, go on, teit— to these days? stephanie, go on, teit-. — to these days? stephanie, go on, teit-. wette— to these days? stephanie, go on, talk-. hello, nana.- to these days? stephanie, go on, talk-. hello, nana. i'm. talk to me. hello, nana. i'm really enjoying the discussion . really enjoying the discussion. i don't think it seems as if he's losing control. rishi sunak . tut— he's losing control. rishi sunak . tut wewe.— he's losing control. rishi sunak . tut wewe. i— he's losing control. rishi sunak . but nana. i think- “g i rishi sunak . but nana. i think everyone's tetiwq— . but nana. i think everyone's tetiwq it— . but nana. i think everyone's tetiwe it eut— . but nana. i think everyone's taking it out of- . but nana. i think everyone's taking it out of perspective. out— taking it out of perspective. 0ut et— taking it out of perspective. out of perspective . t t out of perspective. lviv i think if out of perspective. lviv i think it we— out of perspective. lviv i think if we look back and think back to october when he was elected, taking over from boris johnson and then from liz truss, he had to pick up the pieces and deal with a lot of difficulties that was going on in the government. and i think he's like danny eetiewet— and i think he's like danny ewtteiwet ,— and i think he's like danny explained , he's- and i think he's like danny explained , he's just dealing explained, he's just dealing witt— explained, he's just dealing with the,— explained, he's just dealing with the, teu— explained, he's just dealing with the, you know, with issues . uee— with the, you know, with issues . ue-e tuet— with the, you know, with issues . he's just dealing- with the, you know, with issues . he's just dealing with it as teet— . he's just dealing with it as teet ee— . he's just dealing with it as teet ee te— . he's just dealing with it as best as he can.- . he's just dealing with it as best as he can. and i think as i

eeit— best as he can. and i think as i eeit ttew,— best as he can. and i think as i said then, nana,- best as he can. and i think as i said then, nana, i- best as he can. and i think as i said then, nana, i don't think teeeie— said then, nana, i don't think teeeie ee— said then, nana, i don't think people are giving him a chance . people are giving him a chance. teu— people are giving him a chance. weu twew— people are giving him a chance. weu knew we— people are giving him a chance. you know, we need- people are giving him a chance. you know, we need to give him a eeweew— you know, we need to give him a eeweet itieti— you know, we need to give him a chance. rishi sunak- you know, we need to give him a chance. rishi sunak as christine eewiwq— chance. rishi sunak as christine eewiwq ,— chance. rishi sunak as christine eewwe , te— chance. rishi sunak as christine was saying , he would be chance. rishi sunak as christine was saying, he would be able to do was saying, he would be able to te te— was saying, he would be able to te te etweee— was saying, he would be able to do to address some- was saying, he would be able to do to address some of the issues . tut— do to address some of the issues . tut i— do to address some of the issues . tut i iew-t— do to address some of the issues . but i don't think- do to address some of the issues . but i don't think we're giving tiw— . but i don't think we're giving tiw eweuqt— . but i don't think we're giving tiw eweuqt et— . but i don't think we're giving him enough of a- . but i don't think we're giving him enough of a chance. i think teeeie— him enough of a chance. i think teeeie tewe— him enough of a chance. i think people have lost- him enough of a chance. i think people have lost faith. they teei— people have lost faith. they teei tite— people have lost faith. they feel like he's- people have lost faith. they feel like he's losing control. tut— feel like he's losing control. tut it— feel like he's losing control. tut it weu— feel like he's losing control. but if you imagine- feel like he's losing control. but if you imagine they've got priti patel now, do you imagine a party arnie especially if you imagine it as a party. and they've been there for 13 years. it's difficult to give one individual a chance when they've had this do that. had all this time to do that. let's go to alan mcneely in grimsby . alan, good afternoon , grimsby. alan, good afternoon, nana the question might be did he ever have control ? nana he ever have control? nana i mean, he ever have control? nana i ttet-e— he ever have control? nana i mean, that's the - he ever have control? nana i mean, that's the thing.- i 7 nana i mean, that's the thing. i mean , mean, that's the thing. i mean, ttew-we— mean, that's the thing. i mean, ttew-we qet— mean, that's the thing. i mean, they've got themselves in such an they've got themselves in such ew ewtui— they've got themselves in such ew ewtui ,— they've got themselves in such an awful, mighty- they've got themselves in such an awful, mighty mess. i don't twew— an awful, mighty mess. i don't twew ttet— an awful, mighty mess. i don't know that they- an awful, mighty mess. i don't know that they can ever get tteweeiwee— know that they can ever get themselves out- know that they can ever get themselves out of it and eeweiwiw— themselves out of it and eeweiwiw ,— themselves out of it and certainly , you- themselves out of it and certainly , you know, both sunak, certainly, you know, both sunak, wwe-e— certainly, you know, both sunak, wte-e veryw— certainly, you know, both sunak, wte-e veryw wew— certainly, you know, both sunak, who's very, very competent , who's very, very competent, etwieueiw— who's very, very competent, obviously, and- who's very, very competent, obviously, and very efficient ,

obviously, and very efficient, eeuit— obviously, and very efficient, eeuit te— obviously, and very efficient, um, could be a- obviously, and very efficient, um, could be a good leader. but we— um, could be a good leader. but we tetiwq— um, could be a good leader. but we tetiwq tte— um, could be a good leader. but he's taking the party in eewtietetw— he's taking the party in completely the wrong direction , completely the wrong direction, i completely the wrong direction, i teiiewe, — completely the wrong direction, i believe, anyway,- completely the wrong direction, i believe, anyway, because he's tuwiwq— i believe, anyway, because he's tuwiwq eeewet— i believe, anyway, because he's turning against business. the tetee— turning against business. the taxes are far- turning against business. the taxes are far too- turning against business. the taxes are far too high on ewewtetw— taxes are far too high on everybody and- taxes are far too high on everybody and there's no vision for everybody and there's no vision tet tte— everybody and there's no vision for the future.- everybody and there's no vision for the future. there's no life eteut— for the future. there's no life eteut tteee— for the future. there's no life about these people whatsoever . about these people whatsoever. wwt— about these people whatsoever. awt ttet-e— about these people whatsoever. awt ttet-e ww— about these people whatsoever. and that's my opinion that he's tuet— and that's my opinion that he's tuet e— and that's my opinion that he's tuet e tit— and that's my opinion that he's tuet e tit et— and that's my opinion that he's tuet e tit et .,_ and that's my opinion that he's just a bit of a, you- and that's my opinion that he's just a bit of a, you know, flogging— just a bit of a, you know, tteqqiwq e— just a bit of a, you know, flogging a dead horse. nana he's not flogging a dead horse. nana he's wet qeiwq— flogging a dead horse. nana he's not going anywhere because he's got-yeah— not going anywhere because he's got-yeah ite- not going anywhere because he's got-yeah it e- not going anywhere because he's got-yeah, it's a very. got no vision. yeah, it's a very eweii— got no vision. yeah, it's a very eweii tetee— got no vision. yeah, it's a very small horse as- got no vision. yeah, it's a very small horse as well. alan tteweeiw— small horse as well. alan mcneely, thank you very much. and stephanie, really good to talk you today. i was asking, talk to you today. i was asking, is rishi sunak losing control? lots been getting in lots of you've been getting in touch. the touch. jane says the conservative is desperately continue to promote sunak as the leader them the next leader to win them the next election. their drubbing election. despite their drubbing in the latest elections. i will. i will never vote conservative again unless boris is reinstated to rightful position, which to his rightful position, which is the electorate voted is what the electorate voted for. kyiv says sunak is for. kyiv says rishi sunak is too concerned about his international image and he doesn't any control because doesn't have any control because of should own of it. he should put his own country first and that applies to mps . as ryan says, sunak to all mps. as ryan says, sunak is a pair of hands after

is a safe pair of hands after the calamity that was liz truss. calamity jane , we don't need to calamity jane, we don't need to be the embarrassment of the world. well, were there world. well, we were there before that, remember? partygate. to quietly before that, remember? pariontte. to quietly before that, remember? parion with to quietly before that, remember? parion with solving to quietly before that, remember? parion with solving the|uietly before that, remember? parion with solving the problems get on with solving the problems of our country. we'll keep your thoughts love all of thoughts coming. we love all of those. to another those. but moving on to another story going to story that i was not going to let according to let go. uh, according to reports, friendship between let go. uh, according to reportand friendship between let go. uh, according to reportand fritisdship between let go. uh, according to reportand fritis saidt between let go. uh, according to reportand fritis said to etween let go. uh, according to reportand fritis said to be sen let go. uh, according to reportand fritis said to be on holly and phil is said to be on the rocks. love on the rocks . the rocks. love on the rocks. who sang that? is no great who sang that? this is no great surprise . and it comes surprise. and it comes after phil's brother was found guilty surprise. and it comes after phcommittingwas found guilty surprise. and it comes after phcommitting sexualind guilty surprise. and it comes after phcommitting sexual offences of committing sexual offences against a teenage boy. but itv have confirmed both presenters will return to the sofa tomorrow, despite rumours tomorrow, despite the rumours behind scenes. could this behind the scenes. so could this spell the beginning end spell the beginning of the end for holly and phil? danny and also christine? neil diamond , by also christine? neil diamond, by the also christine? neil diamond, by tte wew— also christine? neil diamond, by the wew tewe— also christine? neil diamond, by tte wayw iewe ew— also christine? neil diamond, by the way, love on the- “t:7 neil diamond, by the way, love on the rocks. neil 0iewewt— the way, love on the rocks. neil diamond. have- the way, love on the rocks. neil diamond. have no- the way, love on the rocks. neil diamond. have no big surprise. twe— diamond. have no big surprise. i-we wet— diamond. have no big surprise. i've never met phil, i know that weuwe— i've never met phil, i know that weu-we-witt— i've never met phil, i know that you've-with him.- you've worked with him. so ewietiwe— you've worked with him. so christine -well- you've worked with him. so christine -well ,- you've worked with him. so christine-well , i. you've worked with him. so christine well , i mean, christine yeah, well, i mean, twe— christine yeah, well, i mean, we knew— christine yeah, well, i mean, i've known phil- christine yeah, well, i mean, i've known phil in a professional capacity on and off by going— professional capacity on and off by qeiwq ew— professional capacity on and off by qeiwq ew ttie— professional capacity on and off by going on this morning. : by going on this morning. i used to by going on this morning. i used te tewe— by going on this morning. i used te tewe e— by going on this morning. i used to have a regular- by going on this morning. i used to have a regular weekly slot, so and he was always very kind and friendly. so no , no

and very friendly. so no, no complaints about that. but when i first began to worry was this queue jumping business that the queens funeral and if he and holly, they clearly jumped the queue and if he and holly had come out and said, okay, yes, i'm sorry we did, it was wrong, i'm sorry we did, it was wrong, i wish we hadn't, etcetera. they didn't first of all, they denied they queue jumping, which they were queue jumping, which was crazy . then said was crazy. then they said that we're it on behalf of we're doing it on behalf of statement. that awful statement of statement. that awful statement et—eew-t— statement. that awful statement et—eew-t te- statement. that awful statement of-can't be there. . of viewers who can't be there. weii. — of viewers who can't be there. weii. _we— of viewers who can't be there. weii. _we tte- of viewers who can't be there. well, - me, the people . well, excuse me, the people doing behalf everybody doing it on behalf of everybody else who actually else were those who actually queued . exactly. so that was queued for. exactly. so that was the first thing. and then the second thing he second thing was when he literally disowned his brother. i don't have a brother anymore. when his brother was done for paedophilia. now now it seems to me that that is just the moment when your family , your kith and when your family, your kith and kin need you . he should have. kin need you. he should have. obviously he was very upset. et cetera. et cetera. but to actually publicly disown your brother like that, i thought was appalling. well, he should have been , but should have visited been, but should have visited his brother . well, be there for

his brother. well, be there for him when he comes out well, but, you know, people are you know, like people are entitled one. imean, you know, like people are entitled one. i mean, i entitled to that one. i mean, i think entitled to that one. i mean, i ttiwt ttet— entitled to that one. i mean, i think that would- entitled to that one. i mean, i think that would put- entitled to that one. i mean, i think that would put me- gt: i mean, i think that would put me off teietiwe— think that would put me off relative -well. . think that would put me off. relative -well. quite relative of mine as well. quite quietiw— relative of mine as well. quite quiettwltewe— relative of mine as well. quite quickly, i have . say - relative of mine as well. quite quickly, have say that. quickly, i have to say that. but i quickly, i have to say that. but i-te— quickly, i have to say that. but i-te ttew-t— quickly, i have to say that. but i-he didn't have. i do agree he didn't have to wit— i do agree he didn't have to teit- — i do agree he didn't have to teit- i— i do agree he didn't have to talk- i think. i do agree he didn't have toi talk- i think.did talk about it. i think he did have publicly. well, have to say it publicly. well, he distance himself he had to distance himself after everything he's gone through because career and because of the career and everything, his career before family, motivated family, that's what motivated him. yes. i've never met him, but whenever i hear him being discussed on gb news, everyone thinks he's a right. he doesn't say that. so i'm going. i'm going consensus. going with the consensus. well, listen, here defend listen, he's not here to defend tiweeit— listen, he's not here to defend tiweeitut— listen, he's not here to defend himselbutidon't- listen, he's not here to defend himselbutidon't think- listen, he's not here to defend himsel t:t:::t“ e t: that. but i don't think you'd be here much longer on itv. well, we don't know. apparently, he'll here much longer on itv. well, we there know. apparently, he'll here much longer on itv. well, we there tomorrow,)parently, he'll here much longer on itv. well, we there tomorrow, s0trently, he'll here much longer on itv. well, we there tomorrow, so we'll, he'll be there tomorrow, so we'll be glued only for two glued to see, but only for two seconds. then we'll just seconds. and then we'll just change channels back to gb news. now for supplement now it's time for supplement sunday, panel and sunday, where my panel and i discuss some news stories discuss some of the news stories that eyes. so i'm that caught our eyes. so i'm joined and joined now by author and broadcaster hamilton , broadcaster christine hamilton, nelson broadcaster and journalist kelly. danny, journalist danny kelly. danny, let's well let's start with you again. well if there a reminder not if ever there was a reminder not to to on but to go to egypt on holiday, but besides having an armed guard get you from airport to the get you from the airport to the hotel, a fella behind

hotel, having a fella behind reception with a machine gun to protect there's protect your life, there's also the mosquito to worry about british families, egyptian houday british families, egyptian holiday from hell as they suffer horrific pus filled giant mosquito bites. they are. i've ttew.— mosquito bites. they are. i've seen them. they're- mosquito bites. they are. i've seen them. they're the- : they are. i've seen them. they're the size of my— seen them. they're the size of my ttuwtweit— seen them. they're the size of my thumbnail. horrible trails of wewit. — my thumbnail. horrible trails of wewit. a— my thumbnail. horrible trails of wewit. a eiw— my thumbnail. horrible trails of vomit. a six month punch up on a teet— vomit. a six month punch up on a teet teq— vomit. a six month punch up on a teet teq iw— vomit. a six month punch up on a dead dog in reception ocean. 0wee— dead dog in reception ocean. 0wee eqeiw,— dead dog in reception ocean. 0wee againw my— dead dog in reception ocean. once again, my advice is to not go once again, my advice is to not qe te— once again, my advice is to not go to egypt— once again, my advice is to not 90 to egypt just— once again, my advice is to not go to egypt just because of the weequiteee. — go to egypt just because of the mosquitoes. no,- go to egypt just because of the mosquitoes. no, but also it's euet— mosquitoes. no, but also it's euet e— mosquitoes. no, but also it's such a violent- mosquitoes. no, but also it's such a violent place . you have such a violent place. you have to such a violent place. you have te tewe— such a violent place. you have to have armed- such a violent place. you have to have armed guards at teeettiew— to have armed guards at teeettiew .— to have armed guards at reception . really? i didn't know reception. really? i didn't know ttet— reception. really? i didn't know ttet teeeie— reception. really? i didn't know that people could- reception. really? i didn't know that people could egypt and say it's that people could egypt and say it e— that people could egypt and say we e-tieee. — that people could egypt and say it's a-place. well- that people could egypt and say it's a-place. well ,- that people could egypt and say it's a place. will it's a lovely place. well, some people have people don't forget. have you ever to egypt? i wouldn't ever been to egypt? i wouldn't go-principte— ever been to egypt? i wouldn't go - principle because - ever been to egypt? i wouldn't go-principle because i.i ever been to egypt? i wouldn't go-principle because i. i| go out of principle because i. i don-t— go out of principle because i. i don-t want— go out of principle because i. i don-t want to— go out of principle because i. i don't want to go _ go out of principle because i. i don't want to go anywhere where you—guard- you need an armed guard protecting— protecting your life. so i'm sure-au— protecting your life. so i'm sure-all like- protecting your life. so i'm sure all like that. sure it's not all like that. i don-t— sure it's not all like that. i don-t- no,— sure it's not all like that. i don-t- no, i- sure it's not all like that. i don't- no, i think. sure it's not all like that. i. don't- no, i think you're don't know. no, i think you're probably—the probably being unfair over the top-come— probably being unfair over the top-come - probably being unfair over the top-come on. would. top in it. come on. would you read what? that not read that from what? is that not the star. a holiday holiday at home.— the star. a holiday holiday at home. what-s— the star. a holiday holiday at home. what's wrong- the star. a holiday holiday at home. what's wrong i home. what's wrong with bob? i mem-mews- home. what's wrong with bob? i mean,-mail's pretty- mean, the daily mail's pretty good, so, know, to good, so, you know, i'd have to say yes. and obviously, you say 50. yes. and obviously, you need—took- say 50. yes. and obviously, you need—looklthe. need to view the look at the horrific— need to view the look at the horrific - mosquito i horrific pus filled mosquito that-s— horrific pus filled mosquito mars-size- horrific pus filled mosquito that's-size of- that's like the size of maltesers_ that's like the size of maltesers .- that's like the size of maltesers . that's how they

maltesers. that's how big they are maltesers. that's how big they m. the— maltesers. that's how big they are over the woman's leg. are all over the woman's leg. no.— are all over the woman's leg. no-lshe— are all over the woman's leg. no..she-mosquitoes- are all over the woman's leg. no..she-mosquitoes alli no. so she had mosquitoes all over leg. mosquito bites . over her leg. mosquito bites. 0h,— over her leg. mosquito bites. oh, so her bunks were full of pus , not the mosquitoes. oh, her pus, not the mosquitoes. oh, her legs of was full of legs were full of was full of maltesers size. you said pus fined— maltesers size. you said pus filled mosquitoes. - you said pus filled mosquitoes. so no mosquito— filled mosquitoes. so no mosquito bites going around with the bite ? no. they got extra the bite? no. they got extra large.— the bite? no. they got extra large. wen,— the bite? no. they got extra large. well, no,— the bite? no. they got extra large. well, no, i— cc? no. they got extra large. well, no, i can imagine, actually. — large. well, no, i can imagine, actually. _look,- large. well, no, i can imagine,i actually. _look,-know actually. look, look, you know christine. mine christine. christine. well mine is. this is an extraordinary story.— is. this is an extraordinary story. it— is. this is an extraordinary story. it was— is. this is an extraordinary story. it a— this is an extraordinary story. it was a local election result— story. it was a local election result and— story. it was a local election result and the— story. it was a local election result and the returning officer handed— result and the returning officer was handed the— result and the returning officer was handed the wrong name on the pisse— was handed the wrong name on the piece ef— was handed the wrong name on the piece of paper— was handed the wrong name on the preee or paper er— was handed the wrong name on the piece of paper of the— was handed the wrong name on the piece of paper of the winner. so rasreaa—rrre- piece of paper of the winner. so instead—the toryi instead of saying that the tory eaaaraare— instead of saying that the tory candidate won,— instead of saying that the tory candidate won, she clearly candidate won, which she clearly didr_ candidate won, which she clearly pp, sard— candidate won, which she clearly pp, said rear— candidate won, which she clearly did, said that the— candidate won, which she clearly did, said that the labour candidate— did, said that the labour candidate had won, and so the aeerararrerr— candidate had won, and so the declaration was— candidate had won, and so the declaration was that the labour eaaaraare— declaration was that the labour candidate had— declaration was that the labour candidate had won. cllr hinckley raps— candidate had won. cllr hinckley raps-aer— candidate had won. cllr hinckley raps-per rhe— candidate had won. cllr hinckley this-not the case,- candidate had won. cllr hinckley this not the case, but this was not the case, but apparearry— this was not the case, but apparearrp arre— this was not the case, but apparently the declaration is the apparently the declaration is rrre raw.— apparently the declaration is are raw. rr-s— apparently the declaration is the law. it's a— apparently the declaration is the law. it's a legal statement are— the law. it's a legal statement and r— the law. it's a legal statement and it cannot— the law. it's a legal statement and it cannot be— the law. it's a legal statement and it cannot be reversed. and are— and it cannot be reversed. and are rapper— and it cannot be reversed. and the labour person— and it cannot be reversed. and the labour person who was given the labour person who was given rrre victory— the labour person who was given the victory unfair— the labour person who was given the victory unfair ,— the labour person who was given the victory unfair , has the victory unfair, has pasreaur— the victory unfair, has basically just said, well, ha ha rtoughr— basically just said, well, ha ha ,reapp, rm— basically just said, well, ha ha ,reapp, rm going— basically just said, well, ha ha , tough, i'm going to be the coursewor— , tough, i'm going to be the councillor. it's— , tough, i'm going to be the councillor. it's unbelievable. arra— councillor. it's unbelievable. ara-rares— councillor. it's unbelievable. and-tories , the- councillor. it's unbelievable. and tories , the only way and the tories, the only way prer— and the tories, the only way rpey earr— and the tories, the only way they can reverse _ and the tories, the only way they can reverse it is a legal errauerrpe— they can reverse it is a legal challenge which— they can reverse it is a legal challenge which will take up to

six mamas— challenge which will take up to six months and— challenge which will take up to six months and cost the local raapayers— six months and cost the local raapayers rep — six months and cost the local raapayers rep ap— six months and cost the local taxpayers ten up to £10,000. oh irres— taxpayers ten up to £10,000. oh wow. .this woman _ taxpayers ten up to £10,000. oh wow. this woman knows wow. so this woman knows perreerry— wow. so this woman knows perfectly well— wow. so this woman knows perfectly well she's a transgender- perfectly well she's a transgender lady called miss rampar— transgender lady called miss hannah wood. _ transgender lady called miss hannah wood. she is the councillor— hannah wood. she is the councillor where she knows perreerry— councillor where she knows perfectly well— councillor where she knows perfectly well that she she was not perfectly well that she she was per preperrr— perfectly well that she she was not properly elected. o" not properly elected. oh, that's extraordinary. that's- not properly elected. o" : “33 that's terrible. extraordinary. that's terrible. not on. well, you can't do anything. i was going to talk appar— anything. i was going to talk am my— anything. i was going to talk about my blouse,— g i was going to talk about my blouse, but you ain't got about my blouse, but you ain't eer arme— about my blouse, but you ain't per rrme perr— about my blouse, but you ain't got time now, mrs.— about my blouse, but you ain't got time now, mrs. has the got time now, mrs. sunak has the same—perp— got time now, mrs. sunak has the same—both have- got time now, mrs. sunak has the same—both have the. same blouse we both have the same. yes, both— same blouse we both have the same. yes, both very ipp. i'm gonna— same. yes, both very ipp. i'm gonna-appar— same. yes, both very ipp. i'm gonna about supplement gonna talk about my supplement rail are one thing to gonna talk about my supplement rail an are one thing to gonna talk about my supplement rail an archaic one thing to gonna talk about my supplement rail an archaic rule thing to gonna talk about my supplement rail an archaic rule that to gonna talk about my supplement rail an archaic rule that allows keep an archaic rule that allows them to get full pay if they use a microwave at work. the rule states that basically working with microwave ovens shall be permitted to take time off work with pay for medical on with pay for medical check on any effects that come from them. how ridiculous is that? i use a microwave oven waves. - how ridiculous is that? i use a microwave oven waves. 1. how ridiculous is that? i use a microwave oven waves. i don't actually— microwave oven waves. i don't actually r— microwave oven waves. i don't actually i don't have a microwave for that very reason. i suffer . i don't knowymedical i suffer. i don't know medical rear— i suffer. i don't know medical issues that i— i suffer. i don't know medical issues that i know of. wc“ issues that i know of. well, aspen.— issues that i know of. well, rrsrer. r-re— issues that i know of. well, listen, i've got— issues that i know of. well, listen, i've got to say, listen, we're out of we've we're running out of time. we've got run out. chris, this is got to run out. chris, this is the the show. mark steyn the end of the show. mark steyn

show. keir show. i'm asking you sir keir starmer future starmer trying to rig future elections our elections according to our twitter you say twitter poll, 48% of you say yes. you say no. really? yes. 52% of you say no. really? thank much for my panel, thank you so much for my panel, author and broadcaster christine hamilton, also fabulous hamilton, and also the fabulous danny kelly. and thank you to you watching. see you at home for watching. see you at home for watching. see you hello again. you next week. hello again. i'm sreprrerr— stephen keates with your latest prer— stephen keates with your latest prep—rer- stephen keates with your latest prep—fer rrre met office updates. and for the week— met office updates. and for the week- actually, - met office updates. and for the week actually, we've got week ahead, actually, we've got prearr— week ahead, actually, we've got prepay-wearer- week ahead, actually, we've got plenty-weather in- week ahead, actually, we've got plenty weather in the plenty of dry weather in the rereeasr— plenty of dry weather in the forecast-parts- forecast for many parts of the uk forecast for many parts of the up ,— forecast for many parts of the u, , rr-s— forecast for many parts of the u, , as per— forecast for many parts of the uk , it's not completely dry uk, it's not a completely dry prepare.— uk, it's not a completely dry prepare-_a- uk, it's not a completely dry prepare—a fewl picture. there will be a few srrwes— picture. there will be a few showers-and- picture. there will be a few showers-and it- picture. there will be a few showers and it will showers around and it will be reerrwe— showers around and it will be reerrwelprr— showers around and it will be feelinglbit-as- feeling a bit cooler as well compared— feeling a bit cooler as welli compared _couple feeling a bit cooler as well- compared _couple of compared to the last couple of days. — compared to the last couple of days. _beeawse - compared to the last couple of days. because behind compared to the last couple of days. front, because behind compared to the last couple of days. front, which use behind compared to the last couple of days. front, which will3ehind this cold front, which will be sreww— this cold front, which will be slowly slipping— this cold front, which will be slowly slipping south slowly slipping its way south easrwaras— slowly slipping its way south eastwards through evening eastwards through this evening and eastwards through this evening arra overnight— eastwards through this evening and overnight,-a- eastwards through this evening and overnight, a cooler and overnight, there is a cooler air and overnight, there is a cooler arr-warring— and overnight, there is a cooler air-waiting-wingsl air mass waiting in the wings are— air mass waiting in the wings and-dominate- air mass waiting in the wings and dominate things to and that will dominate things to the and that will dominate things to wee-er— and that will dominate things to wee—er rear— and that will dominate things to the-of next week- and that will dominate things to the-of next week .- and that will dominate things to the of next week . so the first part of next week. so we-we-erewaw- the first part of next week. so we've cloudy skies we've got quite cloudy skies wrre— we've got quite cloudy skies wrre seme— we've got quite cloudy skies with some outbreaks of rain sreww— with some outbreaks of rain sreww-rperr- with some outbreaks of rain. slowly-their-south slowly slipping their way south easrwaras— eastwards through this evening and eastwards through this evening awe—eee,- eastwards through this eveningi and—odd, heavier and overnight, the odd, heavier persp— and overnight, the odd, heavier bursa—across- and overnight, the odd, heavier burst—across parts. burst is possible across parts of burst is possible across parts ear—par- burst is possible across parts. op_p,up prepapw of eastern england, but probably not of eastern england, but probably war amewwrrap— of eastern england, but probably not amounting much not amounting to too much ersewrrere— not amounting to too much ersewrrere .— not amounting to too much elsewhere . our— not amounting to too much elsewhere . our skies will tend elsewhere. our skies will tend to elsewhere. our skies will tend re swear— elsewhere. our skies will tend as area are— elsewhere. our skies will tend to clear and underneath, underneath— underneath these clearing skies wraew— underneath these clearing skies wraew rampag— underneath these clearing skies widely turning quite chilly. so temperatures— widely turning quite chilly. so temperatures-far- widely turning quite chilly. so temperatures far off, temperatures not too far off, freezing — temperatures not too far off, freezing _coldest- temperatures not too far off, freezing coldest spots. freezing in the coldest spots. rrrsr— freezing in the coldest spots. rrrsr-err— freezing in the coldest spots. first-on monday- freezing in the coldest spots. first on monday morning . first thing on monday morning. but first thing on monday morning. par-eww— first thing on monday morning. but-chilly-will- first thing on monday morning. but-chilly-will be- but the chilly start will be compensated— but the chilly start will be compensated for by a fair amount of

compensated for by a fair amount ear-rer— compensated for by a fair amount er-rer-praees- compensated for by a fair amountj of-for-places away of sunshine for many places away fram— of sunshine for many places away pram—er- from the far south—east of reward,— from the far south—east of england, where— from the far south—east of. england, where-clear england, where rain will clear away—merreree- england, where rain will clear away—merreree -l away through the morning. errewee,— away through the morning. otherwise, the— away through the morning. otherwise, the sunny start will rewa— otherwise, the sunny start will read re— otherwise, the sunny start will read as see— otherwise, the sunny start will tend to see cloud— otherwise, the sunny start will tend to see cloud in filling wrapar— tend to see cloud in filling rprewprs wre— tend to see cloud in filling through the day and a few sewers— through the day and a few showers breaking out across pares— showers breaking out across parts-northern- showers breaking out across parts northern scotland, parts of northern scotland, easerrw— parts of northern scotland, eastern scotland, down towards easerrw— eastern england. and the odd weaw— eastern england. and the odd heavy-rs— eastern england. and the odd heavy is possible here in heavy burst is possible here in the _whereverl the afternoon. but wherever you are—besp— the afternoon. but wherever you are—pesr er- the afternoon. but wherever you are,_best of the - are, even in the best of the sunshine— are, even in the best of the sunshine for— are, even in the best of the sunshine for the— are, even in the best of the sunshine for the south—west, prese— sunshine for the south—west, those temperatures down those temperatures will be down seera— those temperatures will be down several-compared- those temperatures will be down several compared what several degrees compared to what we erre— several degrees compared to what we saw over the weekend. quite a nagging— we saw over the weekend. quite a reappear—werere- nagging breeze down the north sea nagging breeze down the north sea—mere- nagging breeze down the north. sea—more showers sea coast and a few more showers wru— sea coast and a few more showers wru eewrrrwe— sea coast and a few more showers will continue into— sea coast and a few more showers will continue into monday eweewe.— will continue into monday evening-these- will continue into monday evening.-these to evening. but these tended to rape— evening. but these tended to rare as— evening. but these tended to fade asirese— evening. but these tended to fade as lose heating of fade as we lose the heating of the fade as we lose the heating of ewe-wrea— fade as we lose the heating of the then overnight into the day. and then overnight into rwesaaw— the day. and then overnight into tuesday,_skies- tuesday, largely clear skies aeress—uw- tuesday, largely clear skiesj across _ uk with across much of the uk with temperatures— across much of the uk with temperatures underneath these swear— temperatures underneath these erear swes— temperatures underneath these clear skies falling pretty eww— clear skies falling pretty ewew rer— clear skies falling pretty chilly for the— clear skies falling pretty chilly for the time of year. rewar— chilly for the time of year. touch-certainly. chilly for the time of year. touch particularly ly chilly for the time of year. touch particularly northern possible, particularly northern prepara— possible, particularly northern england northwards. so gardeners and england northwards. so gardeners arra grewers— england northwards. so gardeners and growers-note.— england northwards. so gardeners and growers note. but again and growers take note. but again , it and growers take note. but again , rr spewe— and growers take note. but again , rr sierra pe— and growers take note. but again , rr sierra be a— and growers take note. but again , it should be a lovely start to rwesaaw—wrrri tuesday for many places with widespread—,- tuesday for many places with widespread_, lots. tuesday for many places with widespread , lots of widespread blue skies, lots of sunshine— widespread blue skies, lots of sunshine re— widespread blue skies, lots of sunshine to start— widespread blue skies, lots of sunshine to start the day. the exeeprrerr— sunshine to start the day. the eaeeprrew re— sunshine to start the day. the exception to this,— sunshine to start the day. the exception to this, the north exception to this, the far north of exception to this, the far north er seewawa — exception to this, the far north of scotland, _ see i of scotland, where we'll see a weak— of scotland, where we'll see a weak-prear— of scotland, where we'll see a weak front bringing in weak weather front bringing in erewarer— cloudier skies. some showery earpreaws—rri outbreaks of rain which as it sewera— outbreaks of rain which as it comes south across rest of comes south across the rest of seewawa— comes south across the rest ofi scotland—england, scotland into northern england, rewire— scotland into northern england, reeeree—rare- tending to break up into

showers. again , a mixture of showers. so, again, a mixture of spray— showers. so, again, a mixture of sunny spews— showers. so, again, a mixture of sunny spells and— showers. so, again, a mixture of sunny spells and for the sunny spells and showers for the arrerrreew— sunny spells and showers for the afternoon, _fine - afternoon, mostly fine conditions _ afternoon, mostly fine conditions for the half conditions for the second half of conditions for the second half er—rrre- conditions for the second half of_the majority. conditions for the second halfi of_the majority of of the week for the majority of praees — places, but temperatures not wear— places, but temperatures not wear —