us it's 9:30 am. on monday, the it's 9:30 a.m. on monday, the 15th of may. this is the point on gb news with me, andrew pierce and bev turner. so it's a new week and there— pierce and bev turner. so it's a new week and there is- pierce and bev turner. so it's a new week and there is a- 3361163? so it's a new week and there is a lot going— new week and there is a lot going — new week and there is a lot going on. vladimir zelenskyy is in the— going on. vladimir zelenskyy is in the uk— going on. vladimir zelenskyy is in the uk today— going on. vladimir zelenskyy is in the uk today on a surprise visit— in the uk today on a surprise visit to— in the uk today on a surprise visit to te— in the uk today on a surprise visit to see someone that he caus— visit to see someone that he tttis tis— visit to see someone that he calls his friend— visit to see someone that he calls his friend the prime minister,— calls his friend the prime minister, rishi_ calls his friend the prime minister, rishi sunak. but it's not going— minister, rishi sunak. but it's not going to— minister, rishi sunak. but it's not going to te— minister, rishi sunak. but it's not going to be chit chat. not going to be all chit chat. ite— not going to be all chit chat. the ukrainian— not going to be all chit chat. the ukrainian president will be asking— the ukrainian president will be asking-mitig- the ukrainian president will be asking military support asking for more military support tinted—ate- asking for more military support funded _are you. funded by your taxes. are you happy—the- funded by your taxes. are you. happy—tie home happy with that? and the home secretary, — happy with that? and the home secretary, suella_ happy with that? and the home secretary, suella braverman, site-t— secretary, suella braverman, gigs—gaging- secretary, suella braverman, she's—taking on . she's effectively taking on the time — she's effectively taking on the itime —te| prime minister with a call to eut— prime minister with a call to cut iegei— prime minister with a call to cut legal migration in a major egeeet— cut legal migration in a major speech-tite— cut legal migration in a major speech this morning. speech later this morning. vie-ti— speech later this morning. we'll-discussing- speech later this morning. i we'll-discussing-with we'll be discussing that with a senior who might disagree senior tory who might disagree with and working from home with her and working from home benefits much less benefits the rich, much less than those who do less flexible jobs. we're going to be discussing— jobs. we're going to be discussing the- we're going to be discussing the link between zoom tatte— discussing the link between zoom calls-inequality— discussing the link between zoom calls-inequality ._ discussing the link between zoom calls inequality . are you calls and inequality. are you etiii— calls and inequality. are you still-board— calls and inequality. are you still-board with- calls and inequality. are you still board with working from

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moment in ukraine's resistance. turkey's presidential election to be heading for a run off with the two candidates unlikely to clear the 50% threshold needed to avoid a second round. with almost all of the ballot boxes counted , president erdogan led counted, president erdogan led with 49% of votes and his rival, kemal kilicdaroglu , who had 44. kemal kilicdaroglu, who had 44. if both candidates don't pass the threshold, there'll be a second round on the 28th of may. the home secretary will urge the government to stick to its manifesto pledge of reducing overall migration . in a speech overall migration. in a speech at the national concert autism conference later suella braverman rhiannon will argue the uk should train its own workforce of lorry drivers and fruit pickers and be less dependent on low skilled foreign laboun dependent on low skilled foreign labour. that's ahead of official figures released later this month , which are expected to month, which are expected to show net migration down at a record high of between 650,000 and a million people. arnie kate

winslet won big at the tv baftas last night for her online addiction drama. i am ruth. the series, which stars her real life daughter, mia also took home the award for best drama, which the pair accept on stage together. sir mo farah won in the documentary category for his film, which revealed he'd been illegally trafficked to the uk as a child . tv online dab+ radio as a child. tv online dab+ radio and on tune in. this is gb news. now it's back to bev and . now it's back to bev and. andrew very good morning. welcome . very good morning. welcome to the point— . very good morning. welcome to the point en— . very good morning. welcome to the point en et— . very good morning. welcome to the point on gb news— very good morning. welcome to the point on gb news with me bev itiner— the point on gb news with me bev timer—hege- the point on gb news with me bev timer—tote you. turner andrew pierce. hope you tet— turner andrew pierce. hope you tat-weekend. - turner andrew pierce. hope you had weekend. now had a lovely weekend. now the ukrainian— ukrainian president vladimir zetenstw— ukrainian president vladimir- zetenstyy—itiime zelenskyy is meeting with prime minister—toil minister rishi sunak today for sntstentive — minister rishi sunak today for substantive negotiations . the substantive negotiations. the ukrainian— substantive negotiations. the ukrainian - has- substantive negotiations. the ukrainian has been ukrainian leader has been visiting— ukrainian leader has been visiting european visiting other european eennnets— visiting other european i countries -week visiting other european- countries-week as visiting other european- countries -week as he countries this past week as he eeninnets— countries this past week as he continues-gather-

countries this past week as he continues gather support for continues to gather support for his continues to gather support for nis nation-s— continues to gather support for his nation's fight— continues to gather support for his nation's fight against itnssie— his nation's fight against itnssie . — his nation's fight against russia. joining- his nation's fight against russia . " g c»; his nation's fight against russia . " g " his nation's fight against- russia . joining us now in the russia. joining us now in the studio a political studio is a political commentator, pottinger . commentator, piers pottinger. piers, a big moment. piers, this is a big moment. rishi is his friend , but he rishi is his friend, but he wants more. and we're already we've already pledged about £8 billion. money is tight. we've already pledged about £8 billion. money is tight . but is billion. money is tight. but is there a danger of fatigue for there a danger of fatigue for the british public about the war in ukraine? well, yes, i think tnene— in ukraine? well, yes, i think tnene is.— in ukraine? well, yes, i think tnene is. int— in ukraine? well, yes, i think there is. but i— in ukraine? well, yes, i think there is. but i mean,- " 7 well, yes, i think there is. but i mean, he's had a very— there is. but i mean, he's had a very successful— there is. but i mean, he's had a very successful trip— there is. but i mean, he's had a very successful trip over the test— very successful trip over the test tevv— very successful trip over the last few days— very successful trip over the last few days in— very successful trip over the last few days in germany, gave nin— last few days in germany, gave nin enetnen— last few days in germany, gave him another, i— last few days in germany, gave him another, i think, 4 billion vventn— him another, i think, 4 billion neitn et— him another, i think, 4 billion worth of promises of more nissiies— worth of promises of more missiles and— worth of promises of more missiles and more support. but i do missiles and more support. but i is tnint— missiles and more support. but i is tnint its— missiles and more support. but i do think it's very— missiles and more support. but i do think it's very important tnet— do think it's very important tnet ne— do think it's very important that we don't— do think it's very important that we don't lose faith . and i that we don't lose faith. and i tnint— that we don't lose faith. and i tnint nest— that we don't lose faith. and i think most of— that we don't lose faith. and i think most of the— that we don't lose faith. and i think most of the british public neute— think most of the british public vventt tite— think most of the british public would like to— think most of the british public would like to see— think most of the british public would like to see russia beaten ent— would like to see russia beaten and therefore _ would like to see russia beaten and therefore ,_ would like to see russia beaten and therefore , i— would like to see russia beaten and therefore , i think it's and therefore, i think it's important— and therefore, i think it's important we— and therefore, i think it's important we do continue to support— important we do continue to support nin. — important we do continue to support him. but i think this meeting— support him. but i think this meeting ent— support him. but i think this meeting and these series of meetings— meeting and these series of meetings ene— meeting and these series of meetings are going to be more attent— meetings are going to be more about tne— meetings are going to be more about the long— meetings are going to be more about the long term strategy and

new— about the long term strategy and new te— about the long term strategy and how to actually— about the long term strategy and how to actually end this war. teeese— how to actually end this war. teeese et— how to actually end this war. because at the— how to actually end this war. because at the moment, the inspects— because at the moment, the prospects ee— because at the moment, the prospects are that it will continue— prospects are that it will continue for— prospects are that it will continue for some time and that tnet— continue for some time and that tnet neeiiv— continue for some time and that that really would _ continue for some time and that that really would be bad . at the that really would be bad. at the tine,— that really would be bad. at the same time, ben— that really would be bad. at the same time, ben wallace is trying not te— same time, ben wallace is trying net to tensed— same time, ben wallace is trying not to reduce the _ same time, ben wallace is trying not to reduce the defence force in tnis— not to reduce the defence force in tnis eeentnv— not to reduce the defence force in this country by— not to reduce the defence force in this country by as much as men— in this country by as much as nenv petite,— in this country by as much as many people, particularly the ineesenv— many people, particularly the ineesenv is— many people, particularly the ineesenv is et— many people, particularly the treasury is of course want to se— treasury is of course want to so on tne— treasury is of course want to see. so on the one hand, they went— see. so on the one hand, they want more support, which i teiieve— want more support, which i teiieve ne— want more support, which i believe we should do, but on the etnen— believe we should do, but on the tie tent— believe we should do, but on the tie nent ,— believe we should do, but on the other hand , our— believe we should do, but on the other hand , our own forces are other hand, our own forces are snninting— other hand, our own forces are snninting .— other hand, our own forces are snninting . se— other hand, our own forces are shrinking . so it's— other hand, our own forces are shrinking . so it's slightly, shrinking. so it's slightly, stignttv— shrinking. so it's slightly, slightly nervous time. i think vvtet— slightly nervous time. i think what worries— slightly nervous time. i think what worries me, piers, about this is that we seem to have been given up on any sort of diplomatic solution . now, people diplomatic solution. now, people every time i say that, they say, but you're so naive. you can't negotiate with putin. and there probably truth to that. probably is some truth to that. but some sort of but without some sort of diplomatic route all, we're diplomatic route at all, we're going to is just plough going to do is just plough billions billions of western billions and billions of western money keep this apparently money to keep this apparently endless war going . well, i think endless war going. well, i think that endless war going. well, i think tnet i— endless war going. well, i think tnet i neen— endless war going. well, i think that i mean, there's— endless war going. well, i think that i mean, there's a- endless war going. well, i think that i mean, there's a g7- that i mean, there's a g7 meeting— that i mean, there's a g7 meeting coming up later this

ween— meeting coming up later this week, ent— meeting coming up later this week, and they're i think tnev-ne— week, and they're i think tnev-ne going— week, and they're i think they're going to put pressure on tessie— they're going to put pressure on tessie in— they're going to put pressure on russia in terms— they're going to put pressure on russia in terms of— they're going to put pressure on russia in terms of the pipelines . tet— russia in terms of the pipelines . tut veen— russia in terms of the pipelines . tut veen ,— russia in terms of the pipelines . tut veen , i— russia in terms of the pipelines . but yeah , i think— russia in terms of the pipelines . but yeah , i think there's . but yeah, i think there's going— . but yeah, i think there's going te— . but yeah, i think there's going to te— . but yeah, i think there's going to be more of an effort. ant— going to be more of an effort. ant tn— going to be more of an effort. ant in see— going to be more of an effort. and i'm sure these discussions witt— and i'm sure these discussions vviti teens— and i'm sure these discussions will focus quite— and i'm sure these discussions will focus quite a— and i'm sure these discussions will focus quite a lot on how tnev— will focus quite a lot on how tnev en— will focus quite a lot on how they can resolve— will focus quite a lot on how they can resolve this war vvitneet— they can resolve this war without just _ they can resolve this war without just simply putting more and without just simply putting more ent nee— without just simply putting more and more muscle,— without just simply putting more and more muscle, more and more enneenv— and more muscle, more and more enneenv inte— and more muscle, more and more enneenv into it. — and more muscle, more and more armoury into it. you— and more muscle, more and more armoury into it. /i:::i. : armoury into it. you mentioned the g7 meetings in japan, rishi sunak sunak. he's also going to iceland. i was quite struck. pierce prime ministers often go abroad when they're in political difficulty. mrs. thatcher was in paris when she discovered she hadnt paris when she discovered she hadn't got enough votes in that leadership ballot. gordon brown was in washington when there was a him. it a huge revolt against him. it can dangerous to be abroad. can be dangerous to be abroad. yes. and i mean, i think from vvtet— yes. and i mean, i think from vvnet vveve— yes. and i mean, i think from what we've seen— yes. and i mean, i think from what we've seen over the weekend vvitn— what we've seen over the weekend with conservative _ what we've seen over the weekend with conservative democratic attus— with conservative democratic aukus ization,_ with conservative democratic aukus ization, boris all very pro— aukus ization, boris all very tie tens— aukus ization, boris all very in tents spitt— aukus ization, boris all very pro boris split in— aukus ization, boris all very pro boris split in the party, teing— pro boris split in the party, teing even— pro boris split in the party, being even more vocal and given

the being even more vocal and given tne tenitving — being even more vocal and given the terrifying manifesto, the teteen— the terrifying manifesto, the teteen tentv— the terrifying manifesto, the labour party have produced in tnein— labour party have produced in tnein teiiev— labour party have produced in their policy handbook this is not their policy handbook this is net e— their policy handbook this is net e tine— their policy handbook this is not a time for— their policy handbook this is not a time for disunity in the party— not a time for disunity in the petty ent— not a time for disunity in the petty ent itisni— not a time for disunity in the party and rishi needs to become a party and rishi needs to become e streng— party and rishi needs to become e stneng veeei— party and rishi needs to become a strong vocal leader to make neeiiv— a strong vocal leader to make really achieve— a strong vocal leader to make really achieve something. and he teesn-t— really achieve something. and he teesn-t neve— really achieve something. and he doesn't have much— really achieve something. and he doesn't have much time. yeah, tet-s— doesn't have much time. yeah, tet-s teing— doesn't have much time. yeah, let's bring darren— doesn't have much time. yeah, let's bring darren in. t let's bring darren in. darren iiecetttev— let's bring darren in. darren iiecetttev is— let's bring darren in. darren mccaffrey is also with us. good morning, darren. nice to see you. and rishi sunak has to tread a very fine line here, doesn't he, because as when this invasion started from putin into ukraine and the west very much got behind it, we welcomed ukrainians into our home. i think most people were under the illusion this might be something quite quick will over. quite quick and it will be over. and we would do our how and we would do our bit. how does sunak appease does rishi sunak now appease those people who are losing patience the never ending patience with the never ending chequebook to be chequebook that we seem to be signing? yeah, i mean, i think tint— signing? yeah, i mean, i think tinst et— signing? yeah, i mean, i think tinst et eit— signing? yeah, i mean, i think first of all,imean,_ signing? yeah, i mean, i think first of all,imean, his- first of all, i mean, his immediate— first of all, i mean, his immediate will first of all, i mean, his- immediate -will always first of all, i mean, his— immediate -will always be first of all, i mean, his— immempsz-will always be first of all, i mean, his— immemps think-will always be first of all, i mean, his immemps think and vill always be first of all, i mean, his immemps think and there ways be first of all, i mean, his immemps think and there has; be first of all, i mean, his immemps think and there has not what mps think and there has not teen— what mps think and there has not been-substantive— what mps think and there has not been-substantive-at. been any substantive move at all in teniienent— been any substantive move at all in parliament within the conservative _ in parliament within the conservative suggesting conservative party suggesting tnet— conservative party suggesting tnet-vvev— conservative party suggesting tnet-vvevtne- conservative party suggesting that-way the uk- conservative party suggesting that way the uk should that in any way the uk should tete— that in any way the uk should tete-teet— that in any way the uk should take -foot.the- that in any way the uk should take foot the pedal, if take the foot off the pedal, if you— take the foot off the pedal, if ven gkg, — take the foot off the pedal, if you gkg, in— take the foot off the pedal, if you like, in terms of support

for you like, in terms of support ten uneine. — you like, in terms of support for ukraine. in— you like, in terms of support for ukraine. in fact, actually i tnint— for ukraine. in fact, actually i tnint-et— for ukraine. in fact, actually i think-of the— for ukraine. in fact, actually i think-of the-its- think one of the even its cities— think one of the even its critics-the - think one of the even its critics the party, the critics within the party, the tens— critics within the party, the boris supporters within boris johnson supporters within the boris johnson supporters within tne petty,— boris johnson supporters within tne teitv, vveeit— boris johnson supporters within the party, would that that the party, would say that that is-tne— the party, would say that that is-tne tnings- the party, would say that that is the things that at is one of the things that at ieest— is one of the things that at least-carried- is one of the things that at least carried boris least has carried on boris iennsen-s— least has carried on boris johnson's absolute sense that tnitein—te- johnson's absolute sense that britain—be the- britain is going to be the teeter— britain is going to be the teeter in— britain is going to be the leader in supporting ukraine up tnene— leader in supporting ukraine up tnene eneng— leader in supporting ukraine up there among the— leader in supporting ukraine up there among the public. i mean, i-ve— there among the public. i mean, i-ve net— there among the public. i mean, i-ve net neetiv— there among the public. i mean, i've not really seen— there among the public. i mean, i've not really seen many eninien— i've not really seen many opinion polls— i've not really seen many opinion polls on this, but i tensenetiv— opinion polls on this, but i netsenettv i— opinion polls on this, but i personally i don't don't see a massive shift— personally i don't don't see a massive shift in— personally i don't don't see a massive shift in public opinion vvnene—tnet,- massive shift in public opinion where—that, you. where people feel that, you tnevv— where people feel that, you tnevvlsennent— where people feel that, you know, support should know, the support should stop any— know, the support should stop env tine— know, the support should stop any time-think- know, the support should stop any time think for the any time soon. i think for the uk any time soon. i think for the ut-etvieesiv— any time soon. i think for the uk -obviously do - any time soon. i think for the uk obviously do realise uk they obviously do realise tnet— uk they obviously do realise tnet env— uk they obviously do realise that any deal— uk they obviously do realise that any deal or— uk they obviously do realise that any deal or any sense of consistent— that any deal or any sense of conclusion to— that any deal or any sense of conclusion to this— that any deal or any sense of conclusion to this conflict, if it is— conclusion to this conflict, if it is going— conclusion to this conflict, if it is going te— conclusion to this conflict, if it is going to be— conclusion to this conflict, if it is going to be diplomatic , it is going to be diplomatic, its— it is going to be diplomatic, its net— it is going to be diplomatic, its not going— it is going to be diplomatic, it's not going to— it is going to be diplomatic, it's not going to be brought by by it's not going to be brought by it en— it's not going to be brought by tv on tv— it's not going to be brought by tv on tv tne— it's not going to be brought by tv on tv tne un— it's not going to be brought by by or by the uk. it's going to neve— by or by the uk. it's going to neve te— by or by the uk. it's going to have to involve— by or by the uk. it's going to have to involve bigger forces. tet-s— have to involve bigger forces. tet-s te— have to involve bigger forces. let's be honest— have to involve bigger forces. let's be honest about this. wnetnen— let's be honest about this. whether-china,- let's be honest about this. - whether-china, whether whether that be china, whether tnet— whether that be china, whether tnet-unitet— whether that be china, whether that united states. but that be the united states. but in tne— that be the united states. but in tne ent— that be the united states. but in tne ent, es— that be the united states. but in the end, as i— that be the united states. but in the end, as i say, i think vvnen— in the end, as i say, i think vvnen vee— in the end, as i say, i think when you look— in the end, as i say, i think when you look-it- in the end, as i say, i think when you look it politically when you look at it politically teen— when you look at it politically teen-itine— when you look at it politically from prime minister's point from the prime minister's point of from the prime minister's point et view— from the prime minister's point et tnis— from the prime minister's point of view, this is— from the prime minister's point of view, this is a— from the prime minister's point of view, this is a very safe tein— of view, this is a very safe nein et— of view, this is a very safe pair of hands.— of view, this is a very safe pair of hands. when president zeienstvv— pair of hands. when president zelenskyy morning pair of hands. when president. zelenskyy—morning , zelenskyy tweets this morning, my zelenskyy tweets this morning, nv—tnet- zelenskyy tweets this morning, nv—tnet is- my friend rishi, that is senetning— my friend rishi, that is something i- my friend rishi, that is something i think that people vvitnin— something i think that people within conservative party within the conservative party egneeiete. — within the conservative party appreciate. yeah, i think the ne-s— appreciate. yeah, i think the

issues he's got— appreciate. yeah, i think the issues he's got politically, tneegn— issues he's got politically, though, cabinet ministers though, are cabinet ministers eteniv— though, are cabinet ministers openly contradicting him is what going— openly contradicting him is what geing te— openly contradicting him is what we're going to see— openly contradicting him is what we're going to see with the home seenetenv— we're going to see with the home seenetenvtetev. — we're going to see with the home secretary today. suella braverman right wing braverman at another right wing think tank conference today, she's say you can't she's going to say you can't slow down on visas or you've got to cut immigration and we know that the new figures that show 700,000. yeah. but essentially, i 700,000. yeah. but essentially, i neen— 700,000. yeah. but essentially, i next— 700,000. yeah. but essentially, i mean next week,— 700,000. yeah. but essentially, i mean next week, the- "00 000 / but essentially, i mean next week, the 25th of may,— i mean next week, the 25th of matt vee— i mean next week, the 25th of matt vet tnevv— i mean next week, the 25th of may, you know, this is very tnetv— may, you know, this is very tnetv ten— may, you know, this is very tricky for the— may, you know, this is very tricky for the prime minister i tne— tricky for the prime minister i mean, the prime— tricky for the prime minister i mean, the prime minister has sett— mean, the prime minister has said repeatedly— mean, the prime minister has said repeatedly he wants to see nignetien— said repeatedly he wants to see nignetien-tet- said repeatedly he wants to see migration but let's be migration go down, but let's be nenest— migration go down, but let's be nenest eteet— migration go down, but let's be honest about it.— migration go down, but let's be honest about it. numbers are honest about it. the numbers are going— honest about it. the numbers are going-et— honest about it. the numbers are going-et esote— honest about it. the numbers are going at record highs , if going to be at record highs, if envtting— going to be at record highs, if envtningltnet— going to be at record highs, if anything,-that is- going to be at record highs, if anything, that is post anything, and that is post tent,— anything, and that is post tnexit, vee— anything, and that is post brexit, you know, where clearly nignetien— brexit, you know, where clearly nignetien es— brexit, you know, where clearly migration was a— brexit, you know, where clearly migration was a big if migration was a big issue, if net— migration was a big issue, if not tne— migration was a big issue, if not the defining— migration was a big issue, if not the defining issue in all of ttet— not the defining issue in all of tnet. ven-ne— not the defining issue in all of that. you're right— not the defining issue in all of that. you're right ._ not the defining issue in all of that. you're right. that not the defining issue in all of that. you're right . that message that. you're right. that message teiiev— that. you're right. that message tetev-seette— that. you're right. that message today suella braverman is today from suella braverman is not today from suella braverman is net inst— today from suella braverman is net inst te— today from suella braverman is net inst te tne— today from suella braverman is not just to the thousand tetegetes— not just to the thousand delegates in— not just to the thousand delegates in hall not just to the thousand- delegates in-halllcentral delegates in the hall in central tension.— delegates in the hall in central tension—te- delegates in the hall in central tenten—te te| london. it is also going to be einet— london. it is also going to be einet very— london. it is also going to be aimed very squarely at members of aimed very squarely at members et-eetinet,— aimed very squarely at members of-cabinet, like— aimed very squarely at members of cabinet, like jeremy hunt of the cabinet, like jeremy hunt ent—teegen- and like gillian keegan, the nineteen— and like gillian keegan, the. education—seem education secretary who seem to be education secretary who seem to te—tnet— education secretary who seem to be_that actually- education secretary who seem to be that actually they be suggesting that actually they need— be suggesting that actually they need more migration to a degree or need more migration to a degree on tnet— need more migration to a degree on tnet tne— need more migration to a degree or that the levels— need more migration to a degree or that the levels aren't at ieest— or that the levels aren't at least-verve— or that the levels aren't at least-very,-high. or that the levels aren't at least very, high or least at very, very high or nnstetie— least at very, very high or nnstetie .— least at very, very high or unstable . i— least at very, very high or unstable . i think that was the

unstable. i think that was the gnestien— unstable. i think that was the gnestien es— unstable. i think that was the question was put— unstable. i think that was the question was put to grant shapps vestentev. — yesterday. who wouldn't go as far yesterday. who wouldn't go as ten-te— yesterday. who wouldn't go as tenlte sev— yesterday. who wouldn't go as far-to say that— yesterday. who wouldn't go as far-to say that is- far as to say that is uncontrollable? but the far as to say that is— uncontrollable? but the problem is vvne-s— uncontrollable? but the problem is nne-s-te— uncontrollable? but the problem is who's-to win— uncontrollable? but the problem is who's to win this is who's going to win this tetttee— is who's going to win this battle? -we- is who's going to win this battle? -we -tol is who's going to win this- battle?-we-to remember, battle? and we have to remember, itisni— battle? and we have to remember, tisni—neve- rishi sunak doesn't have a nentete— rishi sunak doesn't have a mandate from _ rishi sunak doesn't have a mandate from either party este— mandate from either party members . in— mandate from either party members. in theory, he mandate from either party members . in theory, he doesn't members. in theory, he doesn't neeiiv— members. in theory, he doesn't neettv even— members. in theory, he doesn't really even have— members. in theory, he doesn't really even have a— members. in theory, he doesn't really even have a mandate from tits— really even have a mandate from tits tense— really even have a mandate from mps because obviously the necess— mps because obviously the nneess teii— mps because obviously the process fell apart at last process fell apart at the last ninnte. — process fell apart at the last ninnte. ant— process fell apart at the last minute. and so— process fell apart at the last minute. and so you are going to neve— minute. and so you are going to have ministers,— minute. and so you are going to have ministers, particularly neente— have ministers, particularly people , people like suella braverman, vvne-ve— people like suella braverman, vvne-ve-venv— people like suella braverman, who've very strong views, who've got very strong views, vvne— who've got very strong views, ene—te- who've got very strong views, vvne—te more. who've got very strong views,- who _ be more vocal. who are going to be more vocal. ant— who are going to be more vocal. ant-tne— who are going to be more vocal. and-the-ministerl and frankly, the prime minister nesn-t—etiiitvl and frankly, the prime minister hasn't—ability toi hasn't really got the ability to rein— hasn't really got the ability to rein-ant— hasn't really got the ability to rein-ant se- hasn't really got the ability to rein -and so we're . hasn't really got the ability to rein and so we're going rein them in. and so we're going to rein them in. and so we're going te-tettte— rein them in. and so we're going te-tettte niev- rein them in. and so we're going to-battle play out. - rein them in. and so we're going to battle play out. and to see this battle play out. and we teene— to see this battle play out. and we tend it— to see this battle play out. and we heard it this— to see this battle play out. and we heard it this morning from john— we heard it this morning from john redwood— we heard it this morning from john redwood on— we heard it this morning from john redwood on the radio as wet.— john redwood on the radio as| well._wouldn't well. you know, who wouldn't neeessenitv— well. you know, who wouldn't necessarily even _ well. you know, who wouldn't necessarily even say that rishi snnet—tne- necessarily even say that rishi. sunak—the-into sunak should lead the party into the-election?— sunak should lead the party into the-election?-are- the next election? things are pretty— the next election? things are nnettv—vie-tel the next election? things are. nnettv—vie-te inst pretty calm, darren. we're just seeing— pretty calm, darren. we're just seeing image. we seeing an image. oh, here we are. zelenskyy being warmly embraced by the prime minister. i'm prime i'm very pleased the prime minister trying get minister is not trying to get down call with zelenskyy. down and call with zelenskyy. remember he wore the same sort of zelenskyy. remember he wore the same sort oicar zelenskyy. remember he wore the same sort oicar crash. zelenskyy. remember he wore the same sort oicar crash. he'senskyy. remember he wore the same sort oicar crash. he's in;kyy. remember he wore the same sort oicar crash. he's in ayy. remember he wore the same sort oicar crash. he's in a proper a car crash. he's in a proper suit. zelenskyy is in his usual war fatigues. still war fatigues. that's a still still shock. know what still shock. you know what baffles though, fellas? i'm baffles me, though, fellas? i'm sorry. i can't before this

sorry. i can't have before this invesien— sorry. i can't have before this invasion, zelenskyy was widely recognised. — invasion, zelenskyy was widely recognised. look— invasion, zelenskyy was widely recognised. look all recognised. look at all the neettines— recognised. look at all the headlines mainstream headlines in the mainstream press— headlines in the mainstream tress—tne- headlines in the mainstream . tress—tie nest press as being one of the most corrupte— press as being one of the most corrupt, - corrupt - press as being one of the most corrupt, corrupt leader corrupt, the most corrupt leader in net— corrupt, the most corrupt leader in net es— corrupt, the most corrupt leader in net es net— corrupt, the most corrupt leader in not as not as— corrupt, the most corrupt leader in not as not as corrupt as tntin— in not as not as corrupt as tntin tnt— in not as not as corrupt as putin, but but— in not as not as corrupt as putin, but but in- in not as not as corrupt as putin, but but in terms of our tnneneen— putin, but but in terms of our european neighbours, he was considered— european neighbours, he was considered to— european neighbours, he was considered to be— european neighbours, he was considered to be incredibly sonnet.— considered to be incredibly corrupt. there— considered to be incredibly corrupt. there was a of corrupt. there was a lot of gnestiens— corrupt. there was a lot of questions about- corrupt. there was a lot of questions about the trustworthy itsis— questions about the trustworthy itsis-teeis— questions about the trustworthy ipsis-feels, piers,- questions about the trustworthy ipsis feels, piers, as ipsis and it feels, piers, as seenltnet— ipsis and it feels, piers, asj soon-that-and ipsis and it feels, piers, as. soon-that-and it soon as that happened and it esnt— soon as that happened and it wasn't_invasion,| soon as that happened and it. wasn't—invasion, it wasn't an overnight invasion, it nnntiing— wasn't an overnight invasion, it nnntiing en— wasn't an overnight invasion, it was rumbling on for eight years on tne— was rumbling on for eight years on tne en— was rumbling on for eight years on the on -eastern- was rumbling on for eight years on the on eastern border of on the on the eastern border of uneine— on the on the eastern border of ukraine-russia. _ on the on the eastern border of ukraine russia. suddenly he ukraine with russia. suddenly he teeenne— ukraine with russia. suddenly he became—and. became a hero overnight. and i stit— became a hero overnight. and i stiti-tnet— became a hero overnight. and i stiti-tnet e— became a hero overnight. and i still-that a-bit- still find that a little bit tettting— still find that a little bit baffling. well i, i don't think it's baffling. well i, i don't think its tnet— baffling. well i, i don't think it's that baffling when your eenntnv— it's that baffling when your eenntnv is— it's that baffling when your country is being invaded and vente— country is being invaded and venne et— country is being invaded and vote et w..— country is being invaded and you're at war, you're you look to vent— you're at war, you're you look to your leader— you're at war, you're you look to your leader to— you're at war, you're you look to your leader to lead and tees— to your leader to lead and tees ne— to your leader to lead and there's no doubt he's been an inenetittv— there's no doubt he's been an incredibly effective leader at ent— incredibly effective leader at ent gennenet— incredibly effective leader at and garnered huge international snnnent— and garnered huge international snnneit ten— and garnered huge international snnneit ten nis— and garnered huge international support for his country. ' it; support for his country. arnie enn— support for his country. arnie end is— support for his country. arnie end is quite— support for his country. arnie and is quite rightly in my view, seen as a hero in the country. and i think most people now see him as that now there's so much corruption in politics all over the place. you could just look north of the border in scotland

and ask a few questions. but to what extent is to what- e�*i: : but to what extent is to what extent do you— what extent is to what extent do ven tnint— what extent is to what extent do ven tnint tnis— what extent is to what extent do you think this is— what extent is to what extent do you think this is a— what extent is to what extent do you think this is a proxy war witn— you think this is a proxy war with america— you think this is a proxy war with america versus russia, with uneine— with america versus russia, with unneine in— with america versus russia, with ukraine in the— with america versus russia, with ukraine in the middle, with titen— ukraine in the middle, with titen inst— ukraine in the middle, with biden just throwing infinite teitens— biden just throwing infinite teitens et— biden just throwing infinite dollars at the— biden just throwing infinite dollars at the situation ? 0" dollars at the situation? oh, neit— dollars at the situation? oh, vveti. titen— dollars at the situation? oh, well, biden actually- dollars at the situation? oh, well, biden actually ,- dollars at the situation? oh, well, biden actually , he i don't well, biden actually, he i don't think is totally aware of what the real situation is , which i the real situation is, which i find deeply worrying . yeah, of find deeply worrying. yeah, of course it's worrying. i think the world at the moment is very worrying and also in turkey, the elections look like erdogan is going to come back and win again , which is scary, i must say. most people were rather hoping his time was up. and if you want to look at some horrific leaders, there's one staring you in the face. but on zelenskyy, ven-ve — in the face. but on zelenskyy, you've advised _ in the face. but on zelenskyy, you've advised tory- " f but on zelenskyy, you've advised tory leaders, tine— you've advised tory leaders, prime ministers,— you've advised tory leaders, prime ministers, zelenskyy must be prime ministers, zelenskyy must te teetteet— prime ministers, zelenskyy must be textbook for— prime ministers, zelenskyy must be textbook for you because he's a be textbook for you because he's e greet— be textbook for you because he's a great communicator, fabulous , a great communicator, fabulous, ent— a great communicator, fabulous, ent ne— a great communicator, fabulous, ent ne tests— a great communicator, fabulous, and he looks pretty good. glamorous.— and he looks pretty good. glamorous. first lady. yeah, tnev— glamorous. first lady. yeah, tnev tetn— glamorous. first lady. yeah, they both stayed in kyiv. yes. tesnite— they both stayed in kyiv. yes. tesnite tne— they both stayed in kyiv. yes. despite the bombings. ' i: despite the bombings. and he knows— despite the bombings. and he knows ten— despite the bombings. and he knows tnvv tn— despite the bombings. and he knows how to use—

despite the bombings. and he knows how to use communications . he makes his points count and i think it's you know, if it wasn't for him, i think russia would probably have walked all over them . i mean, he has if it over them. i mean, he has if it wasn't for him and his putin. can ijust. well, i kind of just tne— can ijust. well, i kind of just two points.— can ijust. well, i kind of just two points. i— can ijust. well, i kind of just two points. i mean,— well, i kind of just two points. i mean, president zeienstvv— two points. i mean, president zetenstvv es— two points. i mean, president zelenskyy was elected. i mean, uneine-s— zelenskyy was elected. i mean, ukraine's definitely had to deal witn— ukraine's definitely had to deal with decades— ukraine's definitely had to deal with decades of— ukraine's definitely had to deal with decades of corruption. inene-s— with decades of corruption. there's-doubt- with decades of corruption. there's doubt about that with decades of corruption. theriwas doubt about that with decades of corruption. theriwas dou actually that with decades of corruption. theriwas dou actually to at . he was elected actually to tein— . he was elected actually to nettlent— . he was elected actually to help-and clean- . he was elected actually to help and clean some of this help try and clean some of this up help try and clean some of this nit-vves— help try and clean some of this nn-vves nnettv— help try and clean some of this up was pretty much elected up that was pretty much elected by up that was pretty much elected bv-?_ up that was pretty much elected tv-e wett— up that was pretty much elected by ? well, ukrainian by who? well, the ukrainian peoplev_ by who? well, the ukrainian peoplev et— by who? well, the ukrainian people, of course. “43?" people, of course. yeah. but bug.— people, of course. yeah. but but, but, but but my point was that that was that was his that that that was that was his mandate, that why he mandate, if you like that why he was outsider politics. was the outsider of politics. second all, i mean, this is second of all, i mean, this is net— second of all, i mean, this is net e— second of all, i mean, this is net e inev— second of all, i mean, this is net e proxy vve— second of all, i mean, this is not a proxy war with the united stetes.— not a proxy war with the united stetes.|neen— not a proxy war with the united states.imean,-well- not a proxy war with the united states. mean, well end states. i mean, it may well end up states. i mean, it may well end nn teing— states. i mean, it may well end nn teing it.— states. i mean, it may well end nn teing it. tnt— states. i mean, it may well end up being it. but president putin very— up being it. but president putin venv nnst— up being it. but president putin very much regards ukraine, the nette— very much regards ukraine, the cradle _civilisation,i cradle of russian civilisation, as cradle of russian civilisation, es neit— cradle of russian civilisation, es tent-nis— cradle of russian civilisation, as part-his back- cradle of russian civilisation, as part his back shores. and as part of his back shores. and as part of his back shores. and es—neintet- as part of his back shores. and as_pointed out,- as you rightly pointed out, eetneiiv— as you rightly pointed out, actually, actually as you rightly pointed out,- actually,-actually began actually, the war actually began in -vvitn— actually, the war actually began in -vvitn tne — actually, the war actually began in -with the initial- in 2013 with the initial invasion. -you- in 2013 with the initial invasion. -you the invasion. and, you know, the engnnent— invasion. and, you know, the argument,-that. invasion. and, you know, the argument, that the argument, of course, that the nine— argument, of course, that the prime minister— argument, of course, that the prime minister and people in westminster— prime minister and people ini westminster—that westminster would say is that vvevesei-t— we've already said seen tnesitent— we've already said seen president invade we've already said seen- president-invade georgia. president putin invade georgia. vie-ve— president putin invade georgia. we've—president. we've already said president tntin— we've already said president putin-authority.

we've already said president putin authority in we've already said president. putin-authority in the putin stamp his authority in the tittie— putin stamp his authority in the iiittie-svne. - putin stamp his authority in the middle-syria. he's- putin stamp his authority in the middle syria. he's now middle east, in syria. he's now teing— middle east, in syria. he's now teing se— middle east, in syria. he's now teing se in— middle east, in syria. he's now doing so in ukraine. the gnestien— doing so in ukraine. the gnestien is— doing so in ukraine. the question is, you know, would he tnen— question is, you know, would he tnen sten— question is, you know, would he then stop there?— question is, you know, would he then stop there? and there are gnestiens— then stop there? and there are questions about— then stop there? and there are questions about baltic questions about the baltic stetes. — questions about the baltic states. icourse - questions about the baltic states. icourse ,- questions about the baltic states. course , again, very states. of course, again, very nnst— states. of course, again, very nnen tne— states. of course, again, very much ba.2 akua_ states. of course, again, very much ba.2 akua were a member of ttio. — much ba.2 akua were a member of ttio. inev-ne— much ba.2 akua were a member of ttio. inev-ne e— much ba.2 akua were a member of nato. they're a member of nato. so nato. they're a member of nato. to its— nato. they're a member of nato. to it-s-tnese— nato. they're a member of nato. so it's-those things- so it's one of those things vvnene— so it's one of those things vvnene i— so it's one of those things where i think— so it's one of those things where i think for lots of western— where i think for lots of western leaders, had where i think for lots of- western leaders,-had to western leaders, a line had to be western leaders, a line had to te-in— western leaders, a line had to te-in tne— western leaders, a line had to be-in the sand- western leaders, a line had to be in the sand and that is be drawn in the sand and that is very— be drawn in the sand and that is ven-eene— be drawn in the sand and that is ven-some witn— be drawn in the sand and that is very-come with the- be drawn in the sand and that is very come with the fulsome very much come with the fulsome snnnent— very much come with the fulsome support-president— very much come with the fulsome support president support of president aslef. but if support of president aslef. but it ttev-t— support of president aslef. but it ttev-e inst— support of president aslef. but if they'd just all— support of president aslef. but if they'd just all said- if they'd just all said beforehand, they not beforehand, they will not ukraine join ukraine will not join nato categorically. i'm not that because originally i'm not a russian expert, but i don't think that putin was asking. i don't i'm entirely don't stage i'm not entirely sure would been sure that would have been enough, don't know. we enough, but we don't know. we will never know. but i timing " i:i:::i" c we will never know. but i think but i will never know. but i think but i te. — will never know. but i think but i to. it— will never know. but i think but i to. it is— will never know. but i think but i do. it is important- will never know. but i think but i do. it is important to- will never know. but i think but i do. c i: i do. it is important to draw the distinction between we're just a now of just getting a shot now of zelenskyy flying in in his helicopter. and this is again, it-es— helicopter. and this is again, it-es tne— helicopter. and this is again,. it-as the communicator it appears as the communicator tene— it appears as the communicator neve—nenegeti here brilliantly stage managed militant— military, military helicopter in he military, military helicopter in te-ne-ti— military, military helicopter in te-ne-it te- military, military helicopter in he-he'll belhisl he comes in, he'll be in his niiitenv— he comes in, he'll be in his military fatigues— he comes in, he'll be in his military fatigues and the prime minister— military fatigues and the prime minister-te— military fatigues and the prime minister-to-himl military fatigues and the prime minister-to-him .| military fatigues and the prime. minister-to-him . is minister waiting to meet him. is tnet— minister waiting to meet him. is tnet-is— minister waiting to meet him. is tnet-is tnet— minister waiting to meet him. is that-is that this- minister waiting to meet him. is that-is that this is- that landing? is that this is cnegnens— that landing? is that this is chequers and— that landing? is that this is chequers and this is the neeenigse— chequers and this is the recognise the- chequers and this is the recognise the wall. this is the tint— recognise the wall. this is the tinst ven-ve—

recognise the wall. this is the first you've probably all teeitet. — first you've probably all decided. i've- first you've probably all decided. it ztizzii: first you've probably all decided. tic ztizzii: c first you've probably all- decided. i've climbed it once or twice peer over. they twice trying to peer over. they try and get me out— twice trying to peer over. they try and get me out. - twice trying to peer over. they try and get me out . so twice trying to peer over. they try and get me out. so this is tne— try and get me out. so this is tte tint— try and get me out. so this is the first time that any foreign leader has actually visited chequers rishi sunak as chequers with rishi sunak as prime course prime minister and of course he's the uk before. he he's been in the uk before. he was here in february. and i think piers pointed out, you think as piers pointed out, you know, in germany, know, he is been in germany, france, the vatican and other uk on of mini trip. this is on a kind of mini trip. this is the context of all of this, by the context of all of this, by the way, is obviously to try and get arms which he seems to get more arms which he seems to be not least of be succeeding in, not least of all in germany. the announced ,3 billion worth of arms over the weekend, this all weekend, about. but this is all ahead of a apparent offensive that going see that we're now going to see ukraine and try and ukraine do to try and try and reclaim back some land reclaim back some of the land that russia's taken. can talk reclaim back some of the land th.people a's taken. can talk reclaim back some of the land th.people about.en. can talk reclaim back some of the land th.people about the can talk reclaim back some of the land th.people about the labour talk reclaim back some of the land th.people about the labour party to people about the labour party because extra ordinary because some extra ordinary stuff sunday papers this stuff in the sunday papers this weekend. starmer to be weekend. so starmer wants to be tnitein— weekend. so starmer wants to be tnitein te— weekend. so starmer wants to be britain to become— weekend. so starmer wants to be britain to become the— : so starmer wants to be britain to become the first eenntnv— britain to become the first eenntnv in— britain to become the first country in europe to give votes to tu— country in europe to give votes to eu citizens— country in europe to give votes to eu citizens living here. is he to eu citizens living here. is ne-get— to eu citizens living here. is he-get brexit- to eu citizens living here. is he get brexit back to eu citizens living here. is- he-get brexit back and he trying to get brexit back and is ne— he trying to get brexit back and is ne trying— he trying to get brexit back and is ne tnving te— he trying to get brexit back and is ne trying to rig— he trying to get brexit back and is he trying to rig the election? - is he trying to rig the election? wc“ is he trying to rig the- election? well, i think this policy handbook, this 96 page lay labour policy handbook, contains some terrifying stuff.

and if that doesn't unite the conservative party , i don't know conservative party, i don't know what will because as the idea of giving eu citizens the vote and also reducing the age to 16, yeah, i mean we can't have a credit card at 16, but you can vote. yeah, i mean it absolutely mind boggling. and at the same time making working from home a legal right as well as banning employers for from contacting their staff out of hours. i don't know how any journalists would work like that. if we struggle, we struggle.- : c if we struggle, we struggle. darren ine— struggle, we struggle. darren ine vvnete— struggle, we struggle. darren the whole it's— struggle, we struggle. darren the whole it's a— struggle, we struggle. darren the whole it's a terrifying manifesto. _ the whole it's a terrifying manifesto. it— the whole it's a terrifying manifesto. c manifesto. it also it's not progressive. it's regressive . progressive. it's regressive. yeah, because it's also doing spiteful socialist stuff of old like wishing to repeal the trade unions act, stopping and really nailing down fox hunting, which they they're obsessed with. yeah i mean it's one of the most it shows that the labor party have

learned nothing from their previous disastrous government governments and it will play badly. it will play badly in the red badly. it will play badly in the net wett— badly. it will play badly in the net nett giving— badly. it will play badly in the red wall giving eu— : it will play badly in the red wall giving eu citizens the vote. — red wall giving eu citizens the vote. et— red wall giving eu citizens the vote. of course— red wall giving eu citizens the vote. of course it— red wall giving eu citizens the vote. of course it will because tnet-s— vote. of course it will because that's actually— vote. of course it will because that's actually more aimed at the that's actually more aimed at tne sentn— that's actually more aimed at the south, where— that's actually more aimed at the south, where most of the eu citizens— the south, where most of the eu citizens ee— the south, where most of the eu citizens are based. _ the south, where most of the eu citizens are based. 'i: the south, where most of the eu citizens are based. i: c citizens are based. and what it means would make london means is it would make london a total stronghold and total labour stronghold and almost permanently if they did this. but more than that, i question the constitution . all question the constitution. all right. for the labour party to try and do this. they're actually tearing apart the constitution in the democracy and what's more, there's their taxation policy is again mind numbing , taxation policy is again mind numbing, stupid and time after time when the labour governments beenin time when the labour governments been in power, they've created a hopeless mess which the conservatives have had to come in and fix. i can see the imf being called in quite quickly if starmer was to win the next election. this will be the tiggest— election. this will be the biggest change- f 0" this will be the biggest change in the voting svsten — biggest change in the voting system since— biggest change in the voting system since women got the vote in - it— system since women got the vote in - it we — system since women got the vote in-it ne vvee— system since women got the vote in-if we were to— system since women got the vote in if we were to give in 1928. if we were to give niiiiens— in 1928. if we were to give millions-no—

in 1928. if we were to give millions no other eu country millions of no other eu country tees— millions of no other eu country tees ite — millions of no other eu country does it? yeah.— millions of no other eu country does it? yeah. i— millions of no other eu country does it? yeah. i mean- millions of no other eu country does it? “43?" " " does it? yeah. i mean we in this country allow people from the commonwealth to vote. so, you know, you're from zimbabwe or know, if you're from zimbabwe or from but we're in the commonwealth, we're not in the know. very true. i know. this is very true. no, i don't disagree that. and don't disagree with that. and obviously people have got obviously irish people have got the to permanently reside the right to permanently reside and that's an and vote. in fact. and that's an historic which an historic parliament, which is an historic parliament, which is an historic obviously historic thing, obviously linked back the kingdom of back to the united kingdom of old. what i'm to get old. but what i'm trying to get at this, of course, at is, yes, this, of course, would be a massive, massive change. only ever change. and it would only ever be to happen with the be able to happen with the labour majority after an election. going election. so it's not going to happen next general happen at the next general election and it could really well here. i mean, well be an issue here. i mean, there's been an argument there's always been an argument about the rights of eu citizens there's always been an argument abothave rights of eu citizens there's always been an argument abothave settled)f eu citizens there's always been an argument abothave settled ineu citizens there's always been an argument abothave settled ineu cukzns there's always been an argument abothave settled ineu cuk post that have settled in the uk post brexit. we know that there's always that discussion always been that discussion about whether and how much they should have rights here, given the fact that they here the fact that they moved here while were inside the eu. but while we were inside the eu. but you know, it is interesting that laboun you know, it is interesting that labour, mean labour , you know, labour, i mean labour, you know, when you look at this kind of from ground in terms from the centre ground in terms of both sides is of trying to see both sides is that labour have always been

accused of being radical accused of not being radical enough, having policies enough, of not having policies that enough that that are distinctive enough that i'm just going to, we're just going to check this. here they are. they going to check this. here they inev vvent— gist g ff here they are. they want wandering around the are. they want wandering around tne gnennts— are. they want wandering around the grounds chequers. they'll are. they want wandering around the gforinds chequers. they'll are. they want wandering around the gfor the chequers. they'll are. they want wandering around the gfor the photozquers. they'll are. they want wandering around the gfor the photo shoot. they'll are. they want wandering around the gfor the photo shoot. there.l stop for the photo shoot. there we ine— stop for the photo shoot. there we are. the handshake on the at the we are. the handshake on the at tne—niiitenv- the doorstep in military tetignes. — the doorstep in military fatigues.-is- the doorstep in military fatigues. is obe the doorstep in military- fatigues. -is obe washes fatigues. always is obe washes tnen. — fatigues. always is obe washes tnen. i— fatigues. always is obe washes tnen. i inst— fatigues. always is obe washes them. i just because he's in him a them. i just because he's in him e tet— them. i just because he's in him e ta, i— them. i just because he's in him e ta, i inst— them. i just because he's in him a lot, i just feel— them. i just because he's in him a lot, i just feel played by tnet— a lot, i just feel played by that outfit. _ a lot, i just feel played by that outfit. i— a lot, i just feel played by that outfit. ”iii; that outfit. i just feel manipulated. think it's that outfit. i just feel- manipulated. think it's clever. tes— manipulated. think it's clever. te-s e— manipulated. think it's clever. he's a war leader.— manipulated. think it's clever. he's a war leader. his- “a" : think it's clever. he's a war leader. his country is nnstet— he's a war leader. his country is under-under- is under siege, under bombardment by of the bombardment by one of the tiggest— bombardment by one of the biggest nuclear— bombardment by one of the biggest nuclear power in the vent.— biggest nuclear power in the vote. ant— biggest nuclear power in the world. and literally ukraine is stit— world. and literally ukraine is stiti netting— world. and literally ukraine is still holding out.— world. and literally ukraine is still holding out. what do you tninte— still holding out. what do you think? pierce?— still holding out. what do you think? pierce? yeah, it's his tnetenent. — think? pierce? yeah, it's his trademark. and- think? pierce? yeah, it's his trademark. i: think? pierce? yeah, it's his trademark. ' i: : think? pierce? yeah, it's his trademark. i: : trademark. and he's. would you advise to keep it? yeah. advise him to keep it? yeah. i mean, he's easily identifiable around the world. and i would advise him to keep it while the war continues . and there will be war continues. and there will be a very significant and marvellous opportunity for him to once it's over . to wear a suit once it's over. very good point. yeah, i would let very good point. yeah, i would iet ne— very good point. yeah, i would iet ne-it— very good point. yeah, i would iet ne-it tne— very good point. yeah, i would let me-it the other- very good point. yeah, i would let me it the other way let me put it the other way tten— let me put it the other way tnen. — let me put it the other way then. would— let me put it the other way then. would you- let me put it the other way then. : then. would you say that the same about members of the royal family a military family who wear a military uniform? why uniform? no, but why not? because the same. because

because it's the same. because it's about. because it's the same. because it's about-about— because it's the same. because it's about.-about style- it's about. it's about style over substance. - it's about. it's about style over substance. that's what tetnens— over substance. that's what tetnens — over substance. that's what bothers me. it's— over substance. that's what bothers me. it's about playing a tent.— bothers me. it's about playing a tent. itenenten— bothers me. it's about playing a part. remember he was an actor. tes— part. remember he was an actor. te-s e— part. remember he was an actor. he's a war leader. and— he's a war leader. and i understand— he's a war leader. and i understand that. - : and i understand that. and i think it's understand that. and i think its innentent— understand that. and i think it's important to— understand that. and i think it's important to draw a distinction— it's important to draw a distinction between what i think are distinction between what i think e teet— distinction between what i think e teet et— distinction between what i think are a load of corrupt politicians- are a load of corrupt politicians behind a lot of this ent— politicians behind a lot of this end tne— politicians behind a lot of this ent tne neente— politicians behind a lot of this and the people on the ground vvnese— and the people on the ground vvnese tives— and the people on the ground whose lives have— and the people on the ground whose lives have been lost, nninet— whose lives have been lost, ruined destroyed. want to ruined and destroyed. i want to teen— ruined and destroyed. i want to draw _ between - ruined and destroyed. i want toi draw—between that, draw a distinction between that, tense— draw a distinction between that, teeense—ent- draw a distinction between that, because—out to. because my heart goes out to tnese— because my heart goes out to tnese pennie— because my heart goes out to those people. but— because my heart goes out to those people. but i just i want sent— those people. but i just i want sent et— those people. but i just i want sent et i— those people. but i just i want some sort of i some sort of some sort of i want some sort of seintien—geing- some sort of i want some sort of solution—going to. solution. we're all going to hear both of them. they're hear from both of them. they're going do an interview, going to do an interview, a brief interview in around 40 minutes time. so we'll and this is great rishi sunak. well, is great for rishi sunak. well, i attraction from is great for rishi sunak. well, i-attraction from the. i suggest attraction from the tene— i suggest attraction from the tone—eiti i suggest attraction from thei tone—eti- home secretary first of all. yesi_ home secretary first of all. ten ven-te— home secretary first of all. yes, you're right.— home secretary first of all. yes, you're right. it- home secretary first of all. yes, you're right. it is- home secretary first of all. yes, you're right. it is leading the news and not the news today and not necessarily suella braverman, which been the case which would have been the case a couple hours i would couple of hours ago. and i would just within the conservative just say within the conservative party, any more party, i do not get any more sense. think this for rishi sense. i think this for rishi sunakis sense. i think this for rishi sunak is as i say, for the sunak is even, as i say, for the critics who supported boris johnson, legacy that johnson, this is the legacy that actually would to actually they would want to see this man on. i just not this man carry on. i just not sure this man carry on. i just not tnis— this man carry on. i just not tits is— this man carry on. i just not sure this is a— this man carry on. i just not sure this is a vote- ’h?“ tan?” iii“ i just not sure this is a vote winner. i tnint— sure this is a vote winner. i tnint neente—

sure this is a vote winner. i think people are- sure this is a vote winner. i think people are worried about vvnet-s— think people are worried about what's happening here. they're vveniet— what's happening here. they're worried about— what's happening here. they're worried about not— what's happening here. they're worried about not being able to pay—they're- worried about not being able to pay they're worried pay their bills. they're worried etent— pay their bills. they're worried etent-teet— pay their bills. they're worried about-fact their- pay their bills. they're worried about fact their taxes are about the fact their taxes are so -tnese - about the fact their taxes are so -these pictures. about the fact their taxes are l so -these pictures are about the fact their taxes are so to these pictures are about the fact their taxes are so to start:hese pictures are about the fact their taxes are so to start ringingctures are about the fact their taxes are so to start ringingctllittle re going to start ringing a little notion— going to start ringing a little hollow-people- going to start ringing a little hollow people soon because hollow with people soon because i i hollow with people soon because i-i tnint— hollow with people soon because i-i tnint its— hollow with people soon because i-i think it's a- hollow with people soon because i-i think it's a vote- i think it's i think it's a vote i— i think it's i think it's a vote winner. i do,— i think it's i think it's a vote winner. i do, too, because i think most people in this country are 100% behind zelenskyy and most people support of zelenskyy support our support of zelenskyy . this is the most . this is a this is the most serious conflict european serious conflict on european soil since world war. soil since the second world war. yes. and it's vital putin teesn-t— yes. and it's vital putin doesn't-and - yes. and it's vital putin doesn't-and lookl yes. and it's vital putin- doesn't-and look what he's doesn't win. and look what he's done to our gas supplies and oil . yeah, i mean, he's the most tengenens— . yeah, i mean, he's the most tengenns en— . yeah, i mean, he's the most dangerous man in— yeah, i mean, he's the most dangerous man in the world. tnetettv— dangerous man in the world.- probably—others probably there are some others nnt— probably there are some others nnt .— probably there are some others around , probably— probably there are some others around , probably his successor. around, probably his successor. tnt— around, probably his successor. tnt ne-s— around, probably his successor. tnt ne-s ne-s— around, probably his successor. but he's he's a,— around, probably his successor. but he's he's a, you know, a neeiiv— but he's he's a, you know, a neettv verv— but he's he's a, you know, a really very dangerous man. and get— really very dangerous man. and get te— really very dangerous man. and we've got to stand— really very dangerous man. and we've got to stand up to him. we neve— we've got to stand up to him. we neve te— we've got to stand up to him. we neve te .— we've got to stand up to him. we neve te . teen. — we've got to stand up to him. we have to . yeah. and— we've got to stand up to him. we have to . yeah. '“i: ” have to. yeah. and labour's darren are completely foursquare behind this aren't they. yeah. i mean parliament. “it?“ ?"t:?;“ l “ii?“ i mean parliament. parliament is nnitet— i mean parliament. parliament is nnitet. inene— i mean parliament. parliament is united. there is— i mean parliament. parliament is united. there is little doubt etent— united. there is little doubt etent tnet— united. there is little doubt about that when it comes to this . i about that when it comes to this . i nneen— about that when it comes to this . i ven— about that when it comes to this . i mean, you know,— about that when it comes to this . i mean, you know, you know tetn— . i mean, you know, you know tetn sente— . i mean, you know, you know beth could well— . i mean, you know, you know beth could well be right in the tnet— beth could well be right in the sense that there— beth could well be right in the sense that there is going to be tnis— sense that there is going to be tits is— sense that there is going to be tits is net— sense that there is going to be this is not going— sense that there is going to be this is not going to end. i

mean, ben wallace said this. its— mean, ben wallace said this. its net— mean, ben wallace said this. its net geing— mean, ben wallace said this. it's not going to— mean, ben wallace said this. it's not going to end this year. no,— it's not going to end this year. welte— it's not going to end this year. telte net. — it's not going to end this year. no,.do not.imean,- it's not going to end this year. no, do not. mean, it's been no, we do not. i mean, it's been going— no, we do not. i mean, it's been geing en— no, we do not. i mean, it's been geing en in— no, we do not. i mean, it's been geing en in tneenv— no, we do not. i mean, it's been going on in theory since 2013. so going on in theory since 2013. se tnis— going on in theory since 2013. se tits is— going on in theory since 2013. se tits is e— going on in theory since 2013. so this is a very— going on in theory since 2013. so this is a very long conflict. at-pointv_ so this is a very long conflict. at-pointv tne- so this is a very long conflict. at-point, the west. so this is a very long conflict. at point, the west may at a certain point, the west may wett— at a certain point, the west may neit neve— at a certain point, the west may neit neve te— at a certain point, the west may well have to say— at a certain point, the west may well have to say we— at a certain point, the west may well have to say we cannot snstein— well have to say we cannot sustain this— well have to say we cannot sustain this level of military investnent. — sustain this level of military investment. there are also investment. and there are also going— investment. and there are also geing te— investment. and there are also geing te te— investment. and there are also going to be concerns about what nennens— going to be concerns about what nennens even— going to be concerns about what nennens it— going to be concerns about what happens even if the conflict tees— happens even if the conflict tees ent— happens even if the conflict does end about— happens even if the conflict does end about the restoration of does end about the restoration et teene,— does end about the restoration of ukraine, which— does end about the restoration of ukraine, which is going to test— of ukraine, which is going to test e— of ukraine, which is going to test e neit— of ukraine, which is going to cost a hell of— of ukraine, which is going to cost a hell ofllot- of ukraine, which is going to cost a hell of lot of money. cost a hell of a lot of money. ant— cost a hell of a lot of money. antlis— cost a hell of a lot of money. andlis etse— cost a hell of a lot of money. andlis also, again,- cost a hell of a lot of money. and is also, again, possible and it is also, again, possible tnet—vve- and it is also, again, possible that—we kind- and it is also, again, possible that—we kind of. and it is also, again, possiblei that—we kind of got that this winter we kind of got evvev— that this winter we kind of got evvev witn— that this winter we kind of got evvev vvitn tne — that this winter we kind of got away with the last winter. the energy— away with the last winter. the energy nices— away with the last winter. the energy prices will— away with the last winter. the energy prices will spike again ent— energy prices will spike again ent tnet— energy prices will spike again and that will— energy prices will spike again and that will bleed the and that will bleed into the genenet— and that will bleed into the genenet-ven- and that will bleed into the general you know, and that will bleed into the. general-you know, the general election. you know, the test— general election. you know, the test-sinis— general election. you know, the cost-crisis is- general election. you know, the cost-crisis is the- cost of living crisis is the nnnnent— cost of living crisis is the number one— cost of living crisis is the number one voters concern in tnis—tnevv- number one voters concern in this—know that. l number one voters concern in. this—know that. and this country. we know that. and tnet— this country. we know that. and tnet-teen— this country. we know that. and that.been.has_ this country. we know that. and that been has been that has been or has been nnineniiv— that has been or has been- primarily—degree primarily led to a large degree by-ener9y_ primarily led to a large degree tv-enengv enisis— primarily led to a large degree by energy crisis europe, by the energy crisis in europe, vvnien— by the energy crisis in europe, vvnien-tnen - by the energy crisis in europe, which-from this- by the energy crisis in europe, which from this war. by the energy crisis in europe,- which-from this war. so which has come from this war. so to which has come from this war. so te-tnet— which has come from this war. so te-tnet tnis— which has come from this war. so to-that this-not— which has come from this war. so to that this not going to to say that this is not going to be to say that this is not going to te e— to say that this is not going to te e netitieei— to say that this is not going to be a political issue, even if its— be a political issue, even if its net— be a political issue, even if it's not directly,— be a political issue, even if it's not directly, people may neit— it's not directly, people may neit sev— it's not directly, people may neit sev en— it's not directly, people may well say on hand, support well say on one hand, i support tnitein-s— well say on one hand, i support britain's,-support- well say on one hand, i support britain's, support of britain's, you know, support of teene,— britain's, you know, support of teene-tne— britain's, you know, support of ukraine, the other hand, ukraine, but on the other hand, teet— ukraine, but on the other hand, feel uncomfortable feel very uncomfortable about the feel very uncomfortable about tne nnessnne— feel very uncomfortable about the pressure that's putting on neente-s—vvel the pressure that's putting on. people's—we think the pressure that's putting on. peopgoing_we think the pressure that's putting on. peopgoing to -we think the pressure that's putting on peopgtzt “g e s the pressure that's putting on peoplgtzzt “g l he's going to commit any more aid the prime minister. aid today, the prime minister. yes, almost certainly, yes. in

ad,— yes, almost certainly, yes. in ua, vveve— yes, almost certainly, yes. in fact, we're-to- yes, almost certainly, yes. in fact, we're-to the. yes, almost certainly, yes. in fact, we're to the point fact, we're getting to the point new-i— fact, we're getting to the point nevv-i tnint— fact, we're getting to the point nevv-i tnint it— fact, we're getting to the point now-i think it is- fact, we're getting to the point now i think it is entirely now where i think it is entirely nessitie. — now where i think it is entirely possible. -britain- now where i think it is entirely possible. britain was now where i think it is entirely pos first. britain was now where i think it is entirely pos first country britain was now where i think it is entirely pos first country last tain was now where i think it is entirely pos first country last weekias now where i think it is entirely pos first country last week to the first country last week to give— the first country last week to give teng—nenge— give long—range missiles 55 mites—iets- give long—range missiles 55 mites—iets .- give long—range missiles 55 miles,-jets . do. give long—range missiles 55. miles,-jets . do you miles, you know, jets. do you remember jets— miles, you know, jets. do you remember jets the time we remember jets the last time we tenet— remember jets the last time we tenet very— remember jets the last time we was here? very much were the teiting— was here? very much were the tetting neint— was here? very much were the tetting neint .— was here? very much were the talking point . is— was here? very much were the talking point . is it possible talking point. is it possible tne— talking point. is it possible tie-is— talking point. is it possible the-is inching- talking point. is it possible the is inching towards that? the uk is inching towards that? i the uk is inching towards that? i-veet.— the uk is inching towards that? i-veetleenit— the uk is inching towards that? i-yeah.-could very- the uk is inching towards that? i-yeah.-could very welll i was, yeah. we could very well be towards nuclear war be inching towards nuclear war and not sure knew that and i'm not sure we knew that was what the outcome was. i don't that's was what the outcome was. i don't-that's happened.| don't think that's happened. inst—eel just briefly, chris, there are unneine— just briefly, chris, there are unneine-is- just briefly, chris, there are ukraine is about to ukraine we think is about to iennen— ukraine we think is about to launch -offensive. ukraine we think is about to launch offensive against launch a major offensive against itnssie. — launch a major offensive against itnssie. itet-s— launch a major offensive against russia. that's right.— launch a major offensive against russia. lg“ russia. that's right. that's why i new jets, unfortunately i mean, new jets, unfortunately take time deliver. we also take time to deliver. we also train pilots. how to fly train the pilots. how to fly them. so that won't for be immediate use. but i think there is a very strong likelihood that there will be more jets supplied. this is so this is the interesting— supplied. this is so this is the interesting thing— supplied. this is so this is the interesting thing in— ll this is so this is the interesting thing in the cc this is so this is the interesting thing in the line item— interesting thing in the line from number— interesting thing in the line from number 10 downing street, vvnen— from number 10 downing street, vvnen ne— from number 10 downing street, when he issued— from number 10 downing street, when he issued the statement tnis— when he issued the statement tnis nenning— when he issued the statement this morning-was. when he issued the statement this morning was here, this morning saying he was here, sett— this morning saying he was here, seit-tne— this morning saying he was here, said-the meeting- this morning saying he was here, said the meeting today, said during the meeting today, the said during the meeting today, tne-tiinisten— said during the meeting today, the-minister will- said during the meeting today, the minister will discuss the prime minister will discuss the prime minister will discuss tne—uneine- the prime minister will discuss| the—ukraine needs the prime minister will discuss the in ukraine needs the prime minister will discuss the in immediate ie needs the prime minister will discuss the in immediate military both in the immediate military egninnent— both in the immediate military egninnent ent— both in the immediate military equipment and long term. there we teen— equipment and long term. there we are. yeah, yeah,— equipment and long term. there we are. yeah, yeah, that's tnet-s— we are. yeah, yeah, that's tnet-s-tne- we are. yeah, yeah, that's that's-the point- we are. yeah, yeah, that's that's the point . we are. yeah, yeah, that's- that's-the point . yes. that's that's the point. yes. its— that's that's the point. yes. its inenie— that's that's the point. yes. it's ironic that— that's that's the point. “4115 it's ironic that we're giving all it's ironic that we're giving eti tnis— it's ironic that we're giving all this aid— it's ironic that we're giving all this aid when our own army

is et— all this aid when our own army is et its— all this aid when our own army is at its lowest— all this aid when our own army is at its lowest level since the crineen— is at its lowest level since the cnineen vven — is at its lowest level since the crimean war. _ is at its lowest level since the crimean war. it— is at its lowest level since the crimean war. l ' digs crimean war. it is. absolutely. it i mean, the two big it is. and i mean, the two big issues for sunak are simply the cost of living. but number two is immigration. yeah. and on the doorstep, i think any mp and after the local elections, the local councillors would would be telling hopefully central office immigration on the doorstep is the big, big issue . and when the big, big issue. and when david cameron so nearly lost completely his election, it was because he was too slow to recognise how strong people feel about about immigration in this country. the conservatives lost teven— country. the conservatives lost dover council— country. the conservatives lost dover council in— country. the conservatives lost dover council in the— llt. the conservatives lost dover council in the local eteetiens— dover council in the local elections so— dover council in the local elections so i'm- dover council in the local elections so i'm not surprised tense— elections so i'm not surprised tense tne— elections so i'm not surprised because the people of dover have teen— because the people of dover have teen teiiet— because the people of dover have teen teitet by— because the people of dover have been failed by the— because the people of dover have been failed by the swarms of the nnntnets— been failed by the swarms of the nnntnets et— been failed by the swarms of the hundreds of thousands of people enessing— hundreds of thousands of people enessing tne — hundreds of thousands of people crossing the channel. “tin?“ crossing the channel. yeah, i neit— crossing the channel. yeah, i mean, well, the thing is, there's two issues at play here. clearly, the most immediate one and the one that's generated headunes and the one that's generated headlines a lot over the last year so is the small boats year or so is the small boats crisis. yeah, the prime crisis. yeah, and the prime minister made front and minister has made this front and square. five pledges.

square. one of his five pledges. he will be judged. and it's not entirely. you know, entirely. in fact, you know, you'd right now say you'd sit here right now and say it's not looking that this you'd sit here right now and say it's rof, looking that this you'd sit here right now and say it's rof, by king that this you'd sit here right now and say it's rof, by the that this you'd sit here right now and say it's rof, by the way, that this you'd sit here right now and say it's rof, by the way, what this you'd sit here right now and say it's rof, by the way, what isiis idea of, by the way, what is stop the boats means that literally mean none all by literally mean none at all by the time of the next general election, bit fuzzy. election, a little bit fuzzy. but there this separate but then there is this separate issue that suella braverman is talking today, which is legal migration. fact that migration. yeah. the fact that people are allowed to move and work and study in this country entirely it's about entirely legally, but it's about the david the numbers. yeah. david cameron had target. remember had a target. do you remember that? may tens of that? theresa may tens of thousands, of thousands thousands, tens of thousands were potentially not were looking potentially not just thousands, were looking potentially not just high thousands, were looking potentially not just high hundreds thousands, were looking potentially not just high hundreds ofiousands, were looking potentially not just high hundreds of thousands, but high hundreds of thousands, 700. how comfortable were 700. again, how comfortable were the british public be about that? a we've not that? that's a debate we've not actually had really the last actually had really for the last 5 6 years. but it's a debate 5 or 6 years. but it's a debate that very much could be pressing. absolutely right. let us pressing. absolutely right. let ns—tnengnts.- pressing. absolutely right. let us_thoughts. thank| pressing. absolutely right. let. us_thoughts. thank you us know your thoughts. thank you nett— us know your thoughts. thank you tett—sentnn- us know your thoughts. thank you both._sandhu and- both. pierce parm sandhu and tenen— both. pierce parm sandhu and darren-there.- both. pierce parm sandhu and darren there. thank darren mccaffrey there. thank you— darren mccaffrey there. thank ven tetn. — darren mccaffrey there. thank ven tetn. tet— darren mccaffrey there. thank you both. let us— darren mccaffrey there. thank you both. let us know your tnengnts— thoughts this morning. vaiews@gbnews.uk is the email ettness— vaiews@gbnews.uk is the email ettness vete— vaiews@gbnews.uk is the email address we're going to continue to address we're going to continue te-eevenege- to bring you coverage of zetenstvv— to bring you coverage of zelenskyy visit to bring you coverage of zelenskyy-visit the zelenskyy surprise visit to the uk. — zelenskyy surprise visit to the uk. -eise— zelenskyy surprise visit to the nt.-eise geing- zelenskyy surprise visit to the uk.-also going to- zelenskyy surprise visit to the uk. also going to be uk. we're also going to be seeking— uk. we're also going to be speaking-davis. uk. we're also going to be speaking davis mp uk. we're also going to be- speaking-davis mp next. speaking to david davis mp next. inis—en— speaking to david davis mp next. inis—en et- speaking to david davis mp next. this—on gb news- this is the point on gb news

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secretary. the secretary. she's taking on the prime frankly, with prime minister, frankly, with a call to cut legal migration in a major speech later this morning. we're to a tory we're about to talk to a tory mp, rather senior one, who may mp, a rather senior one, who may disagree working disagree with her and working from it seems, benefits from home, it seems, benefits the rich much less than those who do a inflexible job. so we're going to discuss ltzzt so we're going to discuss the link tetvveen— we're going to discuss the link between zoom— we're going to discuss the link between zoom calls and inegnetitv.— between zoom calls and inequality. still on inequality. are you still on teene— inequality. are you still on teene witn— inequality. are you still on board with working from . home board with working from. home in. — board with working from. home in. tnet— board with working from. home in. tneit ns— board with working from. home i'm. email us on— board with working from. home i'm. email us on all of the eteve— i'm. email us on all of the eteve .— i'm. email us on all of the eteve . et— i'm. email us on all of the above . gb views. gbnews.uk is above. gb views. gbnews.uk is the above. gb views. gbnews.uk is tne ettness— above. gb views. gbnews.uk is the address or— above. gb views. gbnews.uk is the address or tweet us at gb tens. — the address or tweet us at gb tens. tnt— the address or tweet us at gb news. but first— the address or tweet us at gb news. but first of— the address or tweet us at gb news. but first of all, here is tne— news. but first of all, here is tne news— news. but first of all, here is the news with— news. but first of all, here is the news with tamsin roberts . the news with tamsin roberts. teth— the news with tamsin roberts. tett. ttents— the news with tamsin roberts. beth, thanks very— the news with tamsin roberts. beth, thanks very much.- the news with tamsin roberts. beth, thanks very much. good morning from the gb newsroom. at 10:01, ukraine's president zelenskyy is meeting the prime minister today in a surprise visit to the uk. the ukrainian president is meeting rishi sunak at chequers, the prime minister's country retreat for what he's calling substantive negotiations over military aid.

the meeting comes as the uk's pledge to send hundreds of new long—range attack drones to ukraine. it's the latest stop on the president's european tour to garner increased support from allies as kyiv prepares for its counter—offensive against russian forces . the home russian forces. the home secretary will urge the government to stick to its manifesto pledge of reducing overall migration in a speech at the national conservatism conference later, suella braverman will argue the uk should train its own workforce of lorry drivers and fruit pickers and be less dependent on low skilled foreign labour. that's ahead of official figures released later this month, which are expected to show net migration at a record high of between 650,000 and a million people. former cabinet minister jacob rees—mogg told us the uk needs more automation to be more productive. kyiv needs more automation to be more productive . kyiv by relying on productive. kyiv by relying on ten— productive. kyiv by relying on tevv stitiet— :l kyiv by relying on low skilled migration over the

test— low skilled migration over the test so— low skilled migration over the test so veers— low skilled migration over the last 30 years, we— low skilled migration over the last 30 years, we have seen very revv— last 30 years, we have seen very tevv inreeses— last 30 years, we have seen very low increases in— last 30 years, we have seen very low increases in productivity . low increases in productivity. ant— low increases in productivity. ant tert— low increases in productivity. ant nert et— low increases in productivity. and part of the— low increases in productivity. and part of the reason for that i and part of the reason for that i vvenitn-t— and part of the reason for that i vventtn-t sev— and part of the reason for that i wouldn't say the— and part of the reason for that i wouldn't say the whole reason, but i wouldn't say the whole reason, tnt tert— i wouldn't say the whole reason, tnt nert et— i wouldn't say the whole reason, tnt nert et tne— i wouldn't say the whole reason, but part of the reason for that is vve— but part of the reason for that is we neven-t— but part of the reason for that is we haven't mechanised as we snentt— is we haven't mechanised as we snenit neve— is we haven't mechanised as we should have done— is we haven't mechanised as we should have done so fruit pitting— should have done so fruit picking remains extremely picking remains an extremely tetenr— picking remains an extremely labour intensive— picking remains an extremely labour intensive operation and not labour intensive operation and net eti— labour intensive operation and not all fruits— labour intensive operation and not all fruits can— labour intensive operation and not all fruits can be picked. tieenenies— not all fruits can be picked. mechanics but— not all fruits can be picked. mechanics but some can. and why neven-t— mechanics but some can. and why neven-t vve— mechanics but some can. and why haven't we been— mechanics but some can. and why haven't we been investing in the neeninerv— haven't we been investing in the machinery which— haven't we been investing in the machinery which can then be eneretet— machinery which can then be eneretet by— machinery which can then be eneretet by e— machinery which can then be operated by a higher skilled, tetter— operated by a higher skilled, tetter neit— operated by a higher skilled, better paid people? so it's etent— better paid people? so it's about increasing productive tiettv— about increasing productive tiettv se— about increasing productive motty so that— about increasing productive motty so that you can increase ege — motty so that you can increase vvesge inrtev-s— motty so that you can increase wages. turkey's presidential election appears to be heading for a runoff with the two candidates unlikely to clear the 50% threshold needed to avoid a second round. with almost all of the ballot boxes counted, president erdogan led with 49% of votes and his rival, kamal kilicdaroglu, had 44. if both candidates don't pass the threshold , there'll be a second threshold, there'll be a second round on the 28th of may. well journalist ali mustafa told us he thinks erdogan has no rival

inflation. this runaway . inflation. this runaway. intietien— inflation. this runaway. inflation 174%- t:::t“ this runaway. inflation 174% unofficial eertngnete— inflation 174% unofficial earthquake which has killed more tnen— earthquake which has killed more tnen teete— earthquake which has killed more than 50,000 people, destroyed a nnge— than 50,000 people, destroyed a nnge ennnt— than 50,000 people, destroyed a nnge ennnt et— than 50,000 people, destroyed a huge chunk of this— than 50,000 people, destroyed a huge chunk of this country the sie— huge chunk of this country the et— huge chunk of this country the et tents— huge chunk of this country the size of parts of— huge chunk of this country the size of parts of britain, some vvenit— size of parts of britain, some vventt ergne— size of parts of britain, some would argue didn't really matter tense— would argue didn't really matter tense it— would argue didn't really matter because it came— would argue didn't really matter because it came down to culture . ant— because it came down to culture . ant vvnen— because it came down to culture wars . and when kemal wars. and when kemal kilicdaroglu,- wars. and when kemal kilicdaroglu, the opposition eentitete— kilicdaroglu, the opposition eentitete .— kilicdaroglu, the opposition candidate , made an informal candidate, made an informal eiiienee— candidate, made an informal alliance with— candidate, made an informal alliance with the hdp, the nre—tnrtisn— alliance with the hdp, the pro—kurdish hdp, it became a gnestien— pro—kurdish hdp, it became a gnestien et— pro—kurdish hdp, it became a question of security versus tenets— question of security versus tenens . — question of security versus tenens . a— question of security versus terrorism . ' t:::t“ terrorism. a ballot on industrial action by senior doctors in england opens today. the british medical association says talks have been held with the government to try and resolve the long running pay dispute , but negotiations remain dispute, but negotiations remain deadlocked . the union claims the deadlocked. the union claims the average doctor's salary has dropped by 35% over the past decade. even before inflation is considered . the health considered. the health department says consultants were given 4.5% pay rise last year and is urging them to carefully consider the effect of further

strikes on patients. the ballot will close at the end of june . will close at the end of june. meanwhile, two teacher unions have opened new ballots on further strike action. it's after members of the national association of head teachers and the national education union rejected the latest pay offer from the government. voting will close at the end of july with potential strike action to take place in the autumn term . the place in the autumn term. the royal college of nursing has revealed nurses fear being taken to court over the level of care they give to patients . the union they give to patients. the union says more than 9 in 10 nurses raised concerns that patients may be receiving unsafe care. and there privacy and confidentiality is compromised. the rcn says 6 in 10 union members fear they'll be struck off the nursing register due to strikes . the average monthly strikes. the average monthly rent on newly let homes across britain was £125 higher in april than it was in 2022. that

tallies up to an extra 1500 pounds more each year, according to property agent hamptons. the average rent paid for newly let homes reached over £1,200 a month last month. that is a new high, kate winslet won big at the baftas last night for her onune the baftas last night for her online addiction drama. i am ruth, the series which stars her real life daughter, mia threapleton. also also took home the award for best drama , for the award for best drama, for which the pair accepted on stage together. sir mo farah won in the documentary category for his film, which revealed he'd been illegally trafficked to the uk as a child . this is gb news. as a child. this is gb news. more from me shortly. now, though, it's back to bev and . andrew good morning . thank you for good morning. thank you for ieining— good morning. thank you for ieining — good morning. thank you for joining us. president- l: “tlg thank you for

joining us. president zelenskyy is meeting— joining us. president zelenskyy is meeting with— joining us. president zelenskyy is meeting with rishi sunak as we sneet— is meeting with rishi sunak as we sneet et— is meeting with rishi sunak as we speak at the— is meeting with rishi sunak as we speak at the prime minister's eenntrv— we speak at the prime minister's country residence,— we speak at the prime minister's country residence, chequers. its— country residence, chequers. its pretty— country residence, chequers. it's pretty dramatic- country residence, chequers. it's pretty dramatic stuff.- country residence, chequers. it's pretty dramatic stuff. he flew in by helicopter, dressed, of in trademark of course, in his trademark military fatigues . the prime military fatigues. the prime minister hugged the who's minister hugged the man who's called him his friend. but they're discussing what they're discussing now what the uk to support ukraine in uk may do to support ukraine in their war with russia. more arms, taxpayer arms, which means more taxpayer support ukraine. that's support for ukraine. that's right. so joining-now. that's right. so joining now for support for ukraine. that's- right. so joining-now for the right. so joining us now for the retest— right. so joining us now for the ietestltnis— right. so joining us now for the latest.this.mp_ right. so joining us now for the latest-thislmp for- latest on this is mp for haltemprice- latest on this is mp for haltemprice and howden, david tevis—eeet- davis. good morning. good nerning— davis. good morning. good morning. nice— davis. good morning. good morning. nice to see we've morning. nice to see you. we've teen— morning. nice to see you. we've teen teteting— morning. nice to see you. we've been debating this— morning. nice to see you. we've been debating this so far since tse— been debating this so far since tee-nerning— been debating this so far since 930-morning as- been debating this so far since 930-morning as to- been debating this so far since 930 morning as to whether 930 this morning as to whether tnis— 930 this morning as to whether tnis ntevs— 930 this morning as to whether tnis greys-witn— 930 this morning as to whether this plays with voters 930 this morning as to whether ti normally, with voters 930 this morning as to whether tinormally, we ith voters 930 this morning as to whether tinormally, we support oters 930 this morning as to whether tinormally, we support aers 930 this morning as to whether tinormally, we support a war, . normally, if we support a war, pebble— . normally, if we support a war, neente ee— . normally, if we support a war, neente en— . normally, if we support a war, people are on side— . normally, if we support a war, people are on side in this eenntrv— people are on side in this country because this is what we do country because this is what we te en— country because this is what we te en tne— country because this is what we do on the global— country because this is what we do on the global stage. we are geet— do on the global stage. we are geet et— do on the global stage. we are geet et tnis. — do on the global stage. we are good at this. however, we have massive taxes. we— good at this. however, we have massive taxes. we have very tittie—te- massive taxes. we have very little _to .ourl little money left to run our services— little money left to run our services et— little money left to run our services at moment and services at the moment and people— services at the moment and neente ee— services at the moment and people are feeling in their neetet—tei pocket. we're going to be tetignet— pocket. we're going to be fatigued-are- pocket. we're going to be fatigued are we pocket. we're going to be- fatigued -are we not? fatigued by this. are we not? tigtte— fatigued by this. are we not? tigtts inst— fatigued by this. are we not? right? just think— fatigued by this. are we not? right? just think of- fatigued by this. are we not? right? just think of the- right? just think of the alternative for a second. the so—called l: the so—called counterfactual. if we ten-t— so—called counterfactual. if we ten-t snnnert— so—called counterfactual. if we don't support him,— so—called counterfactual. if we don't support him, putin will win— don't support him, putin will vvin .— don't support him, putin will vvin . wett— don't support him, putin will win . well, our— don't support him, putin will win . well, our taxes go up or win. well, our taxes go up or tenn— win. well, our taxes go up or tevvn in— win. well, our taxes go up or tevvn in tne— win. well, our taxes go up or down in the future. we have to spent— down in the future. we have to snent mere— down in the future. we have to spend more money on defence or

tess. — spend more money on defence or tess. vvtet— spend more money on defence or less. what happens— spend more money on defence or less. what happens if- spend more money on defence or less. �*" “ less. what happens if putin loses? if putin loses, i suspect tntin— loses? if putin loses, i suspect tntin nitr— loses? if putin loses, i suspect tntin vviti te— 7 if putin loses, i suspect putin will be deposed in russia. inet-s— putin will be deposed in russia. inet-s-tne— putin will be deposed in russia. that's-the most- putin will be deposed in russia. that's the most likely that's that's the most likely outcome-all— that's that's the most likely outcome.-all of- that's that's the most likely outcome. all of the futures outcome. but all of the futures are outcome. but all of the futures verv— outcome. but all of the futures are very difficult— outcome. but all of the futures are very difficult to predict. tnt— are very difficult to predict. tnt vvtet— are very difficult to predict. tnt vvtet vve— are very difficult to predict. but what we can't- are very difficult to predict. but what we can't afford look, putin chechnya , we ignored putin had chechnya, we ignored it. georgia abkhazia , south it. georgia abkhazia, south ossetia, we ignored it. crimea we ignored it. syria, we ignored it. if you let an autocrat go on winning— it. if you let an autocrat go on winning vers— it. if you let an autocrat go on winning .— e if you let an autocrat go on winning wars , we've done this winning wars, we've done this tetere— winning wars, we've done this tetere. in— winning wars, we've done this before. in the— winning wars, we've done this before. in the 1930, something eventneiiv— before. in the 1930, something eventually goes— before. in the 1930, something eventually goes horribly wrong and eventually goes horribly wrong end tnet-s— eventually goes horribly wrong and that's what— eventually goes horribly wrong and that's what we've got to step. — and that's what we've got to step. ant— and that's what we've got to stop. and ukraine, thank heavens, has— stop. and ukraine, thank heavens, has come before we got ent— heavens, has come before we got end it— heavens, has come before we got end it vve— heavens, has come before we got end it we ent— heavens, has come before we got and if we and if— heavens, has come before we got and if we and if and— heavens, has come before we got and if we and if and if ukraine teen-t— and if we and if and if ukraine netn-t net— and if we and if and if ukraine hadn't had support from nntries— hadn't had support from countries all— hadn't had support from countries all of europe, britain in nertientet— countries all of europe, britain in particulate i— countries all of europe, britain in particular, i suspect the war vvenit— in particular, i suspect the war would already— in particular, i suspect the war would already be— in particular, i suspect the war would already be lost. l l would already be lost. it would be would already be lost. it would te vieterv— would already be lost. it would te vieterv in— would already be lost. it would be victory in ukraine, would have in a matter weeks. have been in a matter of weeks. it have been over in it would have been over in nentns— it would have been over in months, months. i mean i mean, tiere— months, months. i mean i mean, tnere ee— months, months. i mean i mean, tnere verv— months, months. i mean i mean, there are very fiercely independent- there are very fiercely indepehavet- there are very fiercely indepe have fought hard. there are very fiercely indepehave fought hard. l would have fought hard. but it nentn— would have fought hard. but it would .wouldn't_ would have fought hard. but it would wouldn't have been would it wouldn't have been where it is now. and then where vvenit— where it is now. and then where vventt ne— where it is now. and then where vventt ne gee— where it is now. and then where vventt ne gee — where it is now. and then where would he go? one— where it is now. and then where

would he go? one of- where it is now. and then where would he go? one of the- where it is now. and then where would he go? one of the baltic states. well, you've— would he go? one of the baltic states. well, you've got- would he go? on? l. well, you've got the states. well, you've got the teitie— states. well, you've got the baltic states,— well, you've got the baltic states, lithuania, tstenie— baltic states, lithuania, estonia, latvia, possibles, all nressnrele— estonia, latvia, possibles, all pressure-a whole- estonia, latvia, possibles, all pressure a whole series of pressure or a whole series of tnings— pressure or a whole series of tnings vvenit— pressure or a whole series of things would come to play. things would have come to play. ant— things would have come to play. ant-vente— things would have come to play. and .would-had- things would have come to play. and-would-had yet- and he would have had yet enetner— and he would have had yet another victory— and he would have had yet another victory under his belt. ant— another victory under his belt. ant-tnssien— another victory under his belt. and russian people would and the russian people would ttint— and the russian people wouldi think,_leader think, well, we've got a leader vvne— think, well, we've got a leader ene-nin— think, well, we've got a leader vvne-vvin. ven— think, well, we've got a leader who win. you don't want who can win. you don't want tnet— who can win. you don't want tnen-trest— who can win. you don't want that.-west i've- who can win. you don't want that. west i've had, the that. the west i've had, the vvneie— that. the west i've had, the whole world _ that. the west i've had, the whole world doesn't. i don't i tenet— whole world doesn't. i don't i tentt even— whole world doesn't. i don't i doubt even china— whole world doesn't. i don't i doubt even china wants that reeitv— doubt even china wants that reettv . — doubt even china wants that reettv . vvtet— doubt even china wants that really . what-this- doubt even china wants that really . doubt even china wants that- really . what-this what does really. what does this what does victory for ukraine look like? david well, it the answer to tnet— david well, it the answer to tnet is— david well, it the answer to tnet is in— david well, it the answer to that is in president- j l well, it the answer to that is in president zelenskyy's neet. — that is in president zelenskyy's neet. i— that is in president zelenskyy's head. i suspect— that is in president zelenskyy's head. i suspect ,_ that is in president zelenskyy's head. i suspect , rather that is in president zelenskyy's head. i suspect, rather than vvnet— head. i suspect, rather than vvnet vve— head. i suspect, rather than what we think— head. i suspect, rather than what we think .— head. i suspect, rather than what we think . i mean, ideally, what we think. i mean, ideally, tnev-t— what we think. i mean, ideally, tnev-t tite— what we think. i mean, ideally, tnev-t rite te— what we think. i mean, ideally, they'd like to get— what we think. i mean, ideally, they'd like to get to donbas and crinee— they'd like to get to donbas and crinee test.— they'd like to get to donbas and crimea back. i— they'd like to get to donbas and crimea back. i don't think tnet-s— crimea back. i don't think has geing— crimea back. i don't think that's going to— crimea back. i don't think that's going to happen. they nignt— that's going to happen. they nignt get— that's going to happen. they might get some— that's going to happen. they might get some of the donbas baa,— might get some of the donbas baa, tnt— might get some of the donbas baa, tnt et— might get some of the donbas back, but at the— might get some of the donbas back, but at the very least, its— back, but at the very least, it's-borders— back, but at the very least, it's-borders that- back, but at the very least, it's borders that existed on it's the borders that existed on the it's the borders that existed on tne-ne — it's the borders that existed on tne-ne sent— it's the borders that existed on the - he sent that - it's the borders that existed on the he sent that tank column the day he sent that tank column tevverts— the day he sent that tank column tevverts-ven— the day he sent that tank column towards-you know- the day he sent that tank column towards-you know ,- the day he sent that tank column towards you know , and towards kyiv. you know, and tnet-s— towards kyiv. you know, and tnet-s e— towards kyiv. you know, and tnet-s e te— towards kyiv. you know, and that's a de minimis position. ant— that's a de minimis position. ant it— that's a de minimis position. ant it tnet-s— that's a de minimis position. and if that's happened and tnet-s— and if that's happened and tnet-s test— and if that's happened and that's cost russia 100,000 iives— that's cost russia 100,000 iives its— that's cost russia 100,000 lives, it's brutal- that's cost russia 100,000 lives, it's brutal arithmetic of tnese— lives, it's brutal arithmetic of tnese tnings. — lives, it's brutal arithmetic of these things. if— lives, it's brutal arithmetic of these things. if it— lives, it's brutal arithmetic of these things. if it costs russia a these things. if it costs russia e nnntret— these things. if it costs russia a hundred thousand lives, that's tetiniteiv— a hundred thousand lives, that's tetinitetv e— a hundred thousand lives, that's definitely a loss— a hundred thousand lives, that's definitely a loss for russia. ant— definitely a loss for russia. ant rt— definitely a loss for russia. ant it i— definitely a loss for russia. and i'd i wouldn't call it a vieterv— and i'd i wouldn't call it a vieterv ter— and i'd i wouldn't call it a victory for ukraine, but but at

ieest— victory for ukraine, but but at ieest en— victory for ukraine, but but at least an acceptable outcome. interesting.— least an acceptable outcome. interesting. last— least an acceptable outcome. interesting. last week, - least an acceptable outcome. interesting. last week, germany , which has been always very reluctant to get involved in foreign because of foreign conflicts because of their conduct in the second their own conduct in the second world war, constitutional limits on put exactly . on it that we put in exactly. exactly. but they pledged billions of pounds extra in aid last yeah and quite last week. yeah and that's quite significant. well, of course, tnev-re—vve- significant. well, of course, they're—we are.i they're closer than we are. reen- — they're closer than we are. reen- -tne- they're closer than we are.| yeah. -the-is, they're closer than we are. - yeah. -the-is, the yeah. i mean, the point is, the isse— yeah. i mean, the point is, the sieser-ere— yeah. i mean, the point is, the closer-are to— yeah. i mean, the point is, the closer-are to the- yeah. i mean, the point is, the closer are to the russian closer you are to the russian terrier— closer you are to the russian terter .— closer you are to the russian terter , tne— closer you are to the russian border , the -more- closer you are to the russian border , the more sensitive border, the more more sensitive ven— border, the more more sensitive ven-tnis— border, the more more sensitive ven-tnis vvnete- border, the more more sensitive you this whole thing. you you are to this whole thing. you knew,— you are to this whole thing. you tnevv—teterns- you are to this whole thing. you know,_belarus and. know, russian or belarus and retent— know, russian or belarus and tetent ee— know, russian or belarus and poland are very— know, russian or belarus and poland are very close. poland, retent— poland are very close. poland, poland, poland— poland are very close. poland, poland, poland would have been one poland, poland would have been et— poland, poland would have been et tne— poland, poland would have been one of the countries that i mean, bear in— one of the countries that i mean, bear in mind, if you want to mean, bear in mind, if you want te-et— mean, bear in mind, if you want te-et et— mean, bear in mind, if you want te-et et nis— mean, bear in mind, if you want to-at at his his— mean, bear in mind, if you want to at at his his putin's to look at at his his putin's entitiens— to look at at his his putin's entitiens .— to look at at his his putin's ambitions , just— to look at at his his putin's ambitions , just look at the map ambitions, just look at the map of ambitions, just look at the map et tne— ambitions, just look at the map et tne eit— ambitions, just look at the map of the old russian— ambitions, just look at the map of the old russian empires or tne— of the old russian empires or tne eit— of the old russian empires or the old soviet— of the old russian empires or the old soviet empires . every the old soviet empires. every testern— the old soviet empires. every eastern european country is in his eastern european country is in nis sigtts— eastern european country is in nis signts. et— eastern european country is in his sights. of course , there of his sights. of course, there of course, they're _ his sights. of course, there of course, they're very determined to course, they're very determined te nete — course, they're very determined to make sure he— course, they're very determined to make sure he doesn't get past utreine. — to make sure he doesn't get past utreine. onr— to make sure he doesn't get past ukraine. our very— to make sure he doesn't get past ukraine. our very own- to make sure he doesn't get past ukraine. (1. . liq ukraine. our very own liam halligan has just written an article actually, about how how this this military conflict is. we are taking a harder hit on this in europe from an economy point of view than the us, so

that the us economy is going to grow by 1.6. this year, according to the imf, who can be pessimistic? admittedly and the eurozone gdp is looking like it's half of that, with germany heading for recession now, the uk shrinking. heading for recession now, the uk shrinking . this war isn't it uk shrinking. this war isn't it terrible for biden and america in the same way that it is for us? no, it's a repeat of interv— us? no, it's a repeat of history. again,- us? no, it's a repeat of history. again, i- l. 7 no, it's a repeat of history. again, i mean, europe eivvevs— history. again, i mean, europe etvvevs nevs— history. again, i mean, europe etvvevs nevs tne— history. again, i mean, europe always pays the price. so is stere— always pays the price. so is ttere en— always pays the price. so is there an incentive for biden to end?is there an incentive for biden to end? is there an incentive for it to come to an end? oh, look, there's it to come to an end? oh, look, tnere-s tess— it to come to an end? oh, look, there's less pressure— it to come to an end? oh, look, there's less pressure on- l l ’?“ tz?“l7 oh, look, there's less pressure on one tevet. — there's less pressure on one level. economically there's less pressure on biden.— level. economically there's less pressure on biden. look, the us is e— pressure on biden. look, the us is enen-— pressure on biden. look, the us is a more independent is a much more independent senntrv— is a much more independent senntrv-et- country in terms of international trade. got international trade. it's got its—its- international trade. it's got its—its geti international trade. it's got. its—its get its its own oil supply, it's got its evvnen-t— its own oil supply, it's got its enn-entien. - its own oil supply, it's got its own-and.on. youj own minerals and so on. you tnen,— own minerals and so on. you know, trete— own minerals and so on. you know, trete is— own minerals and so on. you know, trade is although its huge trete— know, trade is although its huge trete is— know, trade is although its huge trete is e— know, trade is although its huge trade is a smaller- know, trade is although its huge trade is a smaller fraction for it tnen— trade is a smaller fraction for it tnen it— trade is a smaller fraction for it tnen it is— trade is a smaller fraction for it than it is for- trade is a smaller fraction for it than it is for us. but the anensens— it than it is for us. but the americans have- it than it is for us. but the americans have got to think very— americans have got to think very verv— americans have got to think very very nent— americans have got to think very, very hard about what the tntnre— very, very hard about what the future structure- very, very hard about what the future structure of the world ieets— future structure of the world teets rite. — future structure of the world looks like. they've got a big nretien— looks like. they've got a big problem with- looks like. they've got a big problem with china, which trentiv— problem with china, which trenttv .— problem with china, which trenttv , i— problem with china, which frankly , i don't think they're

frankly, i don't think they're teing— frankly, i don't think they're teing verv— frankly, i don't think they're being very brave about, but tnet-s— being very brave about, but that's another- being very brave about, but that's another issue. but the test— that's another issue. but the test tning— that's another issue. but the last thing they- that's another issue. but the last thing they want is , is last thing they want is, is tnrtner— last thing they want is, is further russian successes. you tnevv— further russian successes. you know, i— further russian successes. you know, i neen— further russian successes. you know, i .— further russian successes. you know, i mean , they had to face know, i mean, they had to face up know, i mean, they had to face nn te— know, i mean, they had to face nn te tne— know, i mean, they had to face up to the facts- know, i mean, they had to face up to the facts in- know, i mean, they had to face up to the facts in syria that we tnet— up to the facts in syria that we tnet ne — up to the facts in syria that we that we basically- up to the facts in syria that we that we basically lost, even tnengn— that we basically lost, even tnengn vve— that we basically lost, even though we were- that we basically lost, even though we were all committed tnere— though we were all committed tnere .— though we were all committed tnere . se— though we were all committed tnere . se tne— though we were all committed there . so the economics, of there. so the economics, of course , doesn't- there. so the economics, of course , doesn't hurt america as course, doesn't hurt america as teet— course, doesn't hurt america as tetiv es— course, doesn't hurt america as tetiv es it— course, doesn't hurt america as badly as it hurts- course, doesn't hurt america as badly as it hurts us because its— badly as it hurts us because its tess— badly as it hurts us because it's less close- badly as it hurts us because it's less close to- badly as it hurts us because it's less close to their teersten. — it's less close to their doorstep. but- it's less close to their doorstep. but america see sees itsett— doorstep. but america see sees itsett es— doorstep. but america see sees itsett es tne— doorstep. but america see sees itself as the guardian of tenesresv— itself as the guardian of democracy, but they also have tnei— democracy, but they also have tneir en— democracy, but they also have their own fuel. - democracy, but they also have their own fuel. i- democracy, but they also have their own fuel. i just to say, america also , they have their america also, they have their own fuel supplies in a way that we do frack. they frack. oh, look at i mean, listen,- look at i mean, listen, if the rest— look at i mean, listen, if the rest et— look at i mean, listen, if the rest et tne— look at i mean, listen, if the rest of the world- look at i mean, listen, if the rest of the world vanished, anerise— rest of the world vanished, america could- rest of the world vanished, america could get by. i mean, vvenit— america could get by. i mean, sure would happen . but that's sure would happen. but that's the sure would happen. but that's tne tnet-s— sure would happen. but that's the that's the - sure would happen. but that's the that's the truth. bill; ”it; the that's the truth. we're going— the that's the truth. we're geing te — the that's the truth. we're geing te tert— the that's the truth. we're going to talk about immigration, david, in a moment, but we're going bring in major general going to bring in major general chapman us going to bring in major general chemorei us going to bring in major general chemore analysis. us going to bring in major general chemore analysis. good us going to bring in major general chemore analysis. good morning, for more analysis. good morning, major—general former head of counter—terrorism at the ministry of defence. what you ministry of defence. what do you think sunak commit think rishi sunak will commit today when he does that joint meeting with president zelenskyy? what hard military

hardware do you think we're going provide ? well, number going to provide? well, number 10, going to provide? well, number to, ive— going to provide? well, number to, he eireetv— going to provide? well, number 10, i've already said- tlgt:::t “tlg lt:?7 well, number 10, i've already said that we're going— 10, i've already said that we're geing te— 10, i've already said that we're geing te give— 10, i've already said that we're going to give hundreds of air defense— going to give hundreds of air defence missiles- going to give hundreds of air defence missiles and further tttvs— defence missiles and further ntvs. inet-s— defence missiles and further uavs. that's unmanned aerial venisies— uavs. that's unmanned aerial venisies .— uavs. that's unmanned aerial vehicles , but- uavs. that's unmanned aerial vehicles , but quite long—range vehicles, but quite long—range nn— vehicles, but quite long—range nn te— vehicles, but quite long—range ones, up to 200km. but he also nentienet— ones, up to 200km. but he also mentioned that- ones, up to 200km. but he also mentioned that we- ones, up to 200km. but he also mentioned that we will make sure that mentioned that we will make sure tnet tne— mentioned that we will make sure that the training- mentioned that we will make sure that the training program for utreinien— that the training program for ukrainian pilots is energised. inet-s— ukrainian pilots is energised. that's interesting because of course at the- that's interesting because of course at the moment we haven't sennittet— course at the moment we haven't sennittet in— course at the moment we haven't committed in the- course at the moment we haven't committed in the west to nreviting— committed in the west to nreviting env— committed in the west to providing any military aircraft, nertisntertv— providing any military aircraft, particularly the- providing any military aircraft, particularly the f—16. and vvtet-s— particularly the f—16. and what's interesting about the stetenents— what's interesting about the statements it- what's interesting about the statements it does reference the t—it— statements it does reference the r—ie, vvnisn— statements it does reference the r—ie, vvnisn is— statements it does reference the f—16, which is an- statements it does reference the f—16, which is an american niene— f—16, which is an american planer vvnisn— f—16, which is an american plane, which the royal air force teesn-t— plane, which the royal air force teesn-t neve— plane, which the royal air force doesn't have twice- plane, which the royal air force doesn't have twice . yes. so that doesn't have twice. yes. so that is vvnet— doesn't have twice. yes. so that is vvnet tne— doesn't have twice. yes. so that is what the ultimate capability, vvnisn— is what the ultimate capability, vvnisn is— is what the ultimate capability, which is missing- is what the ultimate capability, which is missing that zelenskyy vvents— which is missing that zelenskyy nents tren — which is missing that zelenskyy wants from the - which is missing that zelenskyy wants from the west. and really, tnis— wants from the west. and really, tnis meeting— wants from the west. and really, tnis meeting is— wants from the west. and really, this meeting is the- wants from the west. and really, this meeting is the halfway neint— this meeting is the halfway point because- this meeting is the halfway point because in the last few tevs— point because in the last few tevs ne-s— point because in the last few daysv ne-s net— point because in the last few days, he's met both the german snenseiter,— days, he's met both the german chancellor, he's- days, he's met both the german chancellor, he's met the french president,— chancellor, he's met the french president ne-s— chancellor, he's met the french president, he's met ursula von der president, he's met ursula von ter teeren— president, he's met ursula von ter teeren .— president, he's met ursula von der leeren , and- president, he's met ursula von der leeren , and he's met the der leeren, and he's met the tetisn— der leeren, and he's met the polish president.- der leeren, and he's met the polish president. so they are all polish president. so they are

ett enengst— polish president. so they are all amongst the - polish president. so they are all amongst the major contributors. - all amongst the major contributors. and this is the nettvvev— contributors. and this is the nettvvev neint— contributors. and this is the halfway point between those meetings— halfway point between those meetings and- halfway point between those meetings and the g7 and council of meetings and the g7 and council et tnrene— meetings and the g7 and council of europe meetings, where international- of europe meetings, where international solidarity to sentinne— international solidarity to continue to- international solidarity to continue to resource ukraine vvitt— continue to resource ukraine vvitt te— continue to resource ukraine vvitt te tne— continue to resource ukraine will be the main- continue to resource ukraine will be the main issue and will sentinne— will be the main issue and will sentinne te— will be the main issue and will continue to be- will be the main issue and will continue to be an- will be the main issue and will continue to be an issue which we witt— continue to be an issue which we vvitt snnnert— continue to be an issue which we will support them - continue to be an issue which we will support them because this isn-t— will support them because this isnt etniset— will support them because this isn't ethical and- will support them because this isn't ethical and just war from a isn't ethical and just war from e utreinien— isn't ethical and just war from a ukrainian perspective of and is tnis— a ukrainian perspective of and is tnis inst— a ukrainian perspective of and is tnis inst is— a ukrainian perspective of and is this just is this- a ukrainian perspective of and is this just is this all coming , tnis— is this just is this all coming now , this these- is this just is this all coming now , this these pledges from now, this these pledges from tnese— now, this these pledges from these european- now, this these pledges from these european countries ? these european countries? sttttitt— these european countries? chapman because- these european countries? chapman because we. these european countries? chapman because we think ukraine is about to launch a major counter—offensive against the russians. i counter—offensive against the russians . i think what it tells russians. i think what it tells you— russians. i think what it tells ven is— russians. i think what it tells ven is tnet— russians. i think what it tells you is that this- russians. i think what it tells you is that this isn't- t i think what it tells you is that this isn't a one stet— you is that this isn't a one snet eeenvvn. — you is that this isn't a one shot weapon. we know that the gening— shot weapon. we know that the war gaming which went on serteintv— war gaming which went on certainly with- war gaming which went on certainly with general cavoli, vvne-s— certainly with general cavoli, vvne-s tne — certainly with general cavoli, who's the supreme allied commander,- who's the supreme allied commander, with the commander, europe with the tttreinien— commander, europe with the utreinien .— commander, europe with the ukrainian , has- commander, europe with the ukrainian , has meant that the ukrainian, has meant that the egninnent— ukrainian, has meant that the equipment they've been given so far equipment they've been given so ter is— equipment they've been given so ter is enengn— equipment they've been given so far is enough for- equipment they've been given so far is enough for the forthcoming offensive . now forthcoming offensive. now tnere-s— forthcoming offensive. now tnere-s e— forthcoming offensive. now there's a localised offensive at there's a localised offensive at tne eent— there's a localised offensive at the moment in- there's a localised offensive at the moment in bakhmut, but not the moment in bakhmut, but not the operational- the moment in bakhmut, but not the operational level . that is the operational level. that is tne— the operational level. that is tne tevet— the operational level. that is the level above- the operational level. that is the level above tactics at the eent — the level above tactics at the eent te— the level above tactics at the moment. so this- the level above tactics at the moment. so this really along witn— moment. so this really along vvitn tne— moment. so this really along with the american support last

week— with the american support last week because - with the american support last week because they also gave enetner— week because they also gave enetner iz— week because they also gave another 1.2 billion bringing tnei— another 1.2 billion bringing their contribution to $30 tittien— their contribution to $30 tittien is— their contribution to $30 billion is to- their contribution to $30 billion is to sustain ukraine for billion is to sustain ukraine ter tne— billion is to sustain ukraine ter tne teng— billion is to sustain ukraine for the long war- billion is to sustain ukraine for the long war should it come to for the long war should it come te tnet. — for the long war should it come te tnet. tnt— for the long war should it come te tnet. tnt it— for the long war should it come to that. but it could be. inere-s— to that. but it could be. there's also- to that. but it could be. there's also a- to that. but it could be. there's also a very short war scenario, which- there's also a very short war scenario, which is- scenario, which is a psychological and military settense— psychological and military settense et— psychological and military collapse of the russians . and collapse of the russians. and tnet— collapse of the russians. and tnet is— collapse of the russians. and tnet is ene— collapse of the russians. and that is one of- collapse of the russians. and that is one of the- collapse of the russians. and that is one of the theories of visterv— that is one of the theories of visterv et— that is one of the theories of visterv et tne— that is one of the theories of victory of the ukrainians that nititerv— victory of the ukrainians that military collapse leads to senetning— military collapse leads to something akin to the 1905 and teii— something akin to the 1905 and 1917 revolutions. - something akin to the 1905 and 1917 revolutions. that is sort of 1917 revolutions. that is sort et regime— 1917 revolutions. that is sort of regime change in moscow. 1917 revolutions. that is sort of regime change in moscow . jt:::t of regime change in moscow. do you of regime change in moscow. do ven see— of regime change in moscow. do ven tnet— of regime change in moscow. do ven ttet .— of regime change in moscow. do you see that , chip- of regime change in moscow. do you see that , chip as- of regime change in moscow. do you see that , chip as the- of regime change in moscow. do you see that , chip as the only you see that, chip as the only solution in terms of victory ? solution in terms of victory? and david davis just echoed this as a as an idea which is that the russian troops become demoralised to all intents and purposes , as russia lu are purposes, as russia lu are losing and putin is deposed . purposes, as russia lu are losing and putin is deposed. is there any other way that it could end satisfactorily for ukraine? well, we always talk etent— ukraine? well, we always talk etent tnree— ukraine? well, we always talk about three things. - “t:?7 well, we always talk about three things. it's the stess— about three things. it's the stess ritzy— about three things. it's the class fitzy and- about three things. it's the class fitzy and trinity. either tne— class fitzy and trinity. either tne ernv— class fitzy and trinity. either the army collapse and therefore veni— the army collapse and therefore venr senneigning—

the army collapse and therefore your campaigning ceases. you eitner— your campaigning ceases. you eitner neve— your campaigning ceases. you either have elite- your campaigning ceases. you either have elite defection that is netitiset— either have elite defection that is political change within the trentin— is political change within the trentin .— is political change within the kremlin , which- is political change within the kremlin , which overthrows putin, kremlin, which overthrows putin, or kremlin, which overthrows putin, er ven— kremlin, which overthrows putin, er ven neve— kremlin, which overthrows putin, er ven neve tne— kremlin, which overthrows putin, or you have the third variable, vvnisn— or you have the third variable, vvnisn is— or you have the third variable, which is that- or you have the third variable, which is that the- or you have the third variable, which is that the people revolt. tev— which is that the people revolt. ten tne— which is that the people revolt. now the information space means that now the information space means tnet ttet-s— now the information space means tnet tnet-s net— now the information space means that that's not going to happen at that that's not going to happen et tne— that that's not going to happen at the moment.- that that's not going to happen at the moment. but what was interesting— at the moment. but what was interesting from - at the moment. but what was interesting from the senate annet— interesting from the senate armed services- interesting from the senate armed services committee a week ago armed services committee a week ege es— armed services committee a week ege tnet— armed services committee a week ago was that unless- armed services committee a week ago was that unless russia had nenteterv— ago was that unless russia had mandatory mobilisation and can resource third- mandatory mobilisation and can resource third party ammunition tren— resource third party ammunition from elsewhere- resource third party ammunition from elsewhere ,- resource third party ammunition from elsewhere , then they're from elsewhere, then they're going— from elsewhere, then they're geing te — from elsewhere, then they're geing te te — from elsewhere, then they're going to be really, really snttering— going to be really, really suffering in- going to be really, really suffering in the future in trying— suffering in the future in trying te— suffering in the future in trying te te— suffering in the future in trying to do anything other than nett— trying to do anything other than nett tnei— trying to do anything other than hold their defensive lines. so it teets— hold their defensive lines. so it looks like _ hold their defensive lines. so it looks like to _ hold their defensive lines. so it looks like to me that ukraine witt— it looks like to me that ukraine vvitt te— it looks like to me that ukraine vvitt is in— it looks like to me that ukraine will be in the- it looks like to me that ukraine will be in the ascendant in the next— will be in the ascendant in the next revv— will be in the ascendant in the next few weeks- will be in the ascendant in the next few weeks or- will be in the ascendant in the next few weeks or months, and itnssie— next few weeks or months, and itnssie vventt— next few weeks or months, and russia would have- next few weeks or months, and russia would have to do senetning— russia would have to do something fairly significant witn— something fairly significant with societal- something fairly significant with societal changes, with netitise — with societal changes, with mobilise the - with societal changes, with mobilise the nation. and that is etse— mobilise the nation. and that is etse e— mobilise the nation. and that is also a political- mobilise the nation. and that is also a political risk for putin. all also a political risk for putin. att rigtt— also a political risk for putin. all right. that's- also a political risk for putin. all right. that's major—general chip chapman. now david davis is still with us. david, on the front page of the daily telegraph today, braverman, the

home secretary, pushes to home secretary, pushes pm to deliver on migrants. she's making speech today at making a major speech today at a think is think tank. michael gove is going to there too, going to be there too, effectively the effectively challenging the home, to sort home, the prime minister to sort legal out, which we legal migration out, which we think is going to reach 700,000 when the figures are published later month. i thought the later this month. i thought the target the manifesto, target in the tory manifesto, tens of thousands . what's target in the tory manifesto, tens of thousands. what's your response, andrew? - tens of thousands. what's your response, andrew? can- l what's your response, andrew? can you help me response, andrew? can you help ne-e— response, andrew? can you help ne-e gnestien— response, andrew? can you help me.a question for- response, andrew? can you help me a question for you. me here a question for you. wnisn— me here a question for you. which department runs migration? it's which department runs migration? its funny— which department runs migration? its funny ven— which department runs migration? it's funny you should- which department runs migration? it's funny you should mention that is the home that because it is the home office is run by suella office which is run by suella braverman and priti patel, who is also putting the boot in about immigration. i think she was home secretary before too. yeah wonderful irony yeah this is the wonderful irony of this. you know, you've got tne— of this. you know, you've got tne nesen— of this. you know, you've got the person actually- you know, you've got the person actually responsible for the person actually responsible ter it— the person actually responsible ter it ne— the person actually responsible for it now let's- the person actually responsible for it now let's just of for it now let's just sort of snt— for it now let's just sort of snt it— for it now let's just sort of snt it inte— for it now let's just sort of cut it into bits. - for it now let's just sort of cut it into bits. this problem nnrnert— cut it into bits. this problem number-brexit- cut it into bits. this problem number brexit partly number one, brexit was partly etent— number one, brexit was partly about migration.- number one, brexit was partly about migration. it was about migration. yeah, it was etent— about migration. yeah, it was about.control- about migration. yeah, it was about.control of- about migration. yeah, it was about control of our own about our control of our own nigretien— about our control of our own nigretien .— about our control of our own nigretien . it— about our control of our own migration . it was- about our control of our own migration . it was not migration. it was about not neving— migration. it was about not having uncontrolled. we've got tnet— having uncontrolled. we've got ttet-etev— having uncontrolled. we've got ttet-etev. se— having uncontrolled. we've got that okay. so every person that now. okay. so every person etent— that now. okay. so every person enert tren — that now. okay. so every person enert tren tne— that now. okay. so every person apart from the boat people, every— apart from the boat people, every nesen— apart from the boat people, every person coming here legally comes because- every person coming here legally comes because we've agreed it. ves— comes because we've agreed it. yes ant— comes because we've agreed it. yes ant gness— comes because we've agreed it. yes and guess what? it's a sennittee—

yes and guess what? it's a committee run- yes and guess what? it's a committee run by the home sesreterv— committee run by the home secretary that- committee run by the home secretary that decides on that. so secretary that decides on that. se vvnet— secretary that decides on that. se vvnet en — secretary that decides on that. so what on earth- secretary that decides on that. so what on earth going on there e— so what on earth going on there e tie-ve— so what on earth going on there e vie-ve get— so what on earth going on there now ? we've got we're going to now? we've got we're going to neve — now? we've got we're going to neve nrnerts— now? we've got we're going to have numbers if- now? we've got we're going to have numbers if they're not out already— have numbers if they're not out already vvnisn— have numbers if they're not out already, which get- have numbers if they're not out already, which get us close to etent— already, which get us close to etent e— already, which get us close to about a million- already, which get us close to about a million this year, which is nnge. — about a million this year, which is nnge. ant— about a million this year, which is nnge. ant it— about a million this year, which is huge. and it creates problems for is huge. and it creates problems ter tne— is huge. and it creates problems ter tne senntrv. — is huge. and it creates problems for the country. let's not nhs ssneets— for the country. let's not nhs ssneets tts— for the country. let's not nhs schools, nhs schools, housing, nensing,— schools, nhs schools, housing, nensing, ven— schools, nhs schools, housing, housing, you know, we've had an in— housing, you know, we've had an increase in population of about 10 increase in population of about rte—tne— increase in population of about io—tne test- increase in population of about 10 -the last couple| 10 million over the last couple of 10 million over the last couple et—tnevv,- 10 million over the last couple et—tnevvltne of decades. you know, and the nnses— of decades. you know, and the houses haven't- of decades. you know, and the houses haven't.up- of decades. you know, and the houses haven't up by that houses haven't gone up by that nnsn. — houses haven't gone up by that nnsn. se— houses haven't gone up by that much. so clearly- houses haven't gone up by that much. so clearly they're a nretten— much. so clearly they're a problem. the- much. so clearly they're a problem. the other side of the sets— problem. the other side of the sein-sett— problem. the other side of the coin .covid, you - problem. the other side of the coin covid, you know, all coin post covid, you know, all tnese— coin post covid, you know, all tnese-vvne-ve- coin post covid, you know, all those -who've sort. coin post covid, you know, all those who've sort of those people who've sort of eertv— those people who've sort of early retired- those people who've sort of early retired and so on, or the egrisnttnret— early retired and so on, or the agricultural industry still tenenting— agricultural industry still demanding more and so on. so steertv— demanding more and so on. so steertv vveve— demanding more and so on. so clearly we've got- demanding more and so on. so clearly we've got a- demanding more and so on. so clearly we've got a transition to clearly we've got a transition te sent— clearly we've got a transition te sent on,— clearly we've got a transition to carry out, but- clearly we've got a transition to carry out, but it's not done by neettines— to carry out, but it's not done by headlines like- to carry out, but it's not done by headlines like this. it's tene— by headlines like this. it's tene by— by headlines like this. it's tene by geet— by headlines like this. it's done by good hard work and testing— done by good hard work and deciding, right,- done by good hard work and deciding, right, we've got to neve— deciding, right, we've got to neve e— deciding, right, we've got to have a training- deciding, right, we've got to have a training programme here. tie-ve— have a training programme here. we've - incentive - have a training programme here. we've incentive program we've got an incentive program tiere— we've got an incentive program tnere ent— we've got an incentive program tnere ent se— we've got an incentive program tnere ent se en— we've got an incentive program there and so on, and the government's- there and so on, and the government's actually doing tnet. —el government's actually doing. tnet. —e tens that. but this is about a home secretary she's really secretary what she's really doing, she? she's doing, isn't she? she's manoeuvring politically, manoeuvring politically, manoeuvring this is manoeuvring in the event this is about standing with tory mps about her standing with tory mps and tory party members in the country because she's very

ambitious. wants to be the ambitious. she wants to be the next leader. well, look, if next tory leader. well, look, if let next tory leader. well, look, if iet-ne— next tory leader. well, look, if iet-ne-it— next tory leader. well, look, if iet-ne-it in- next tory leader. well, look, if let-me.it in bald. let me let me put it in bald tests— let me let me put it in bald tests .— let me let me put it in bald tests . it— let me let me put it in bald tests . it vve— let me let me put it in bald facts . if we win- let me let me put it in bald facts . if we win the next facts. if we win the next etestien — facts. if we win the next election in- facts. if we win the next election in rishi sunak will be tneis.— election in rishi sunak will be tnere. tnt— election in rishi sunak will be tnere. tnt it— election in rishi sunak will be there. but if we- election in rishi sunak will be there. but if we do, i think its— there. but if we do, i think its etent— there. but if we do, i think its etent i— there. but if we do, i think it's about 1 in- there. but if we do, i think it's about 1 in 3- there. but if we do, i think it's about 1 in 3 chance. okay. i it's about 1 in 3 chance. okay. i tnint— it's about 1 in 3 chance. okay. i tnint it— it's about 1 in 3 chance. okay. i think it splits- it's about 1 in 3 chance. okay. i think it splits evenly between tetenr— i think it splits evenly between tetenr visterv— i think it splits evenly between labour victory tory victory or nnng— labour victory tory victory or hung parliament. that's tesisettv— hung parliament. that's basically and- hung parliament. that's basically and the next year is going— basically and the next year is geing te— basically and the next year is going to dictate- basically and the next year is going to dictate that and, and the going to dictate that and, and tne entv— going to dictate that and, and the only condition under which neente— the only condition under which neente tite— the only condition under which people like braverman and others will people like braverman and others vvitt te— people like braverman and others will be running- people like braverman and others will be running for- people like braverman and others will be running for leadership is it— will be running for leadership is it vve— will be running for leadership is if we lose,- will be running for leadership is if we lose, not- will be running for leadership is if we lose, not if we win. now— is if we lose, not if we win. tevv, e— is if we lose, not if we win. tevv, e tet— is if we lose, not if we win. now, a lot of- is if we lose, not if we win. now, a lot of young mps say to tevist— now, a lot of young mps say to dang, is— now, a lot of young mps say to me, david, is this- now, a lot of young mps say to me, david, is this 92 or is this tie— me, david, is this 92 or is this we ant— me, david, is this 92 or is this we ant i— me, david, is this 92 or is this we ant i sev— me, david, is this 92 or is this 97? and i say to- me, david, is this 92 or is this 97? and i say to them, that's up to 97? and i say to them, that's up te ven. — 97? and i say to them, that's up te ven. ven— 97? and i say to them, that's up to you. you know,- 97? and i say to them, that's up to you. you know, because 92 we enter— to you. you know, because 92 we nnttet tegetner— to you. you know, because 92 we pulled together and we won. you tnen— pulled together and we won. you know, vve— pulled together and we won. you know, we overwhelmed. we were snnneset— know, we overwhelmed. we were snnneset te— know, we overwhelmed. we were supposed to lose.- know, we overwhelmed. we were supposed to lose. people were seving— supposed to lose. people were seving vvnet— supposed to lose. people were saying what you've just said to me, now you're not going to win. tnt— me, now you're not going to win. ant tnt— me, now you're not going to win. ant tnt vve— me, now you're not going to win. and but we won- me, now you're not going to win. and but we won against the odds, rignte— and but we won against the odds, rignte tesense— and but we won against the odds, right? because.all- and but we won against the odds, right? because all pulled right? because we all pulled tegetner— right? because we all pulled tegetner ti.— right? because we all pulled together 97. we- right? because we all pulled together 97. we all started ettesting— together 97. we all started attacking each - together 97. we all started attacking each other like that tent— attacking each other like that trent tege— attacking each other like that trent nege. tnt— attacking each other like that front page. and guess what happened?— front page. and guess what happened? massacre. massacre and ttet-s— happened? massacre. massacre and tnet-s nv— happened? massacre. massacre and tnet-s rnv tessen— happened? massacre. massacre and that's my lesson from that. iteettv— that's my lesson from that. iteettv ven— that's my lesson from that. really you know, of course we've

got really you know, of course we've get te — really you know, of course we've get te setve— really you know, of course we've got to solve this- really you know, of course we've got to solve this problem, but it's got to solve this problem, but its nene— got to solve this problem, but it's more than- got to solve this problem, but it's more than one person to setve— it's more than one person to setve it.— it's more than one person to setve it. et— it's more than one person to solve it. of course. but she's got— solve it. of course. but she's get-teet— solve it. of course. but she's got lead position. ' ”t? solve it. of course. but she's got lead position. ' "l; got the lead position. are we tetting— got the lead position. are we tetting eer— got the lead position. are we letting are we- got the lead position. are we letting are we letting too many got the lead position. are we let legally? we letting too many got the lead position. are we letlegally? ie letting too many got the lead position. are we letlegally? i thinking too many got the lead position. are we letlegally? i think mytoo many got the lead position. are we letlegally? i think my hunch ny in legally? i think my hunch would be yes , because just on would be yes, because just on the housing front alone, i mean, there'll be young people so they won't have much immediate demand . and on health care, they may neve— . and on health care, they may neve tenent— . and on health care, they may have demand on.- and on health care, they may have demand on. and there are tnings— have demand on. and there are tnings vve— have demand on. and there are things we should- have demand on. and there are things we should be doing. i neente— things we should be doing. i mean, people have talked about why— mean, people have talked about vvnv en— mean, people have talked about why en eertn— mean, people have talked about why on earth and- mean, people have talked about why on earth and i- mean, people have talked about why on earth and i agree, why on eertn— why on earth and i agree, why on set ee— why on earth and i agree, why on set neente— why on earth and i agree, why on earth are people coming to study a master's degree- earth are people coming to study a master's degree able to bring tnei— a master's degree able to bring tneir-vvitn— a master's degree able to bring their-with them?- a master's degree able to bring their with them? they their family with them? they snenttn-t. — their family with them? they shouldn't. -silly. - shouldn't. that's silly. senetetv— shouldn't. that's silly. somebody made a concession in teet— somebody made a concession in some deal.other.- somebody made a concession in some deal.other. at- somebody made a concession in some deal other. at some some deal or other. at some neint— some deal or other. at some point-shouldn't. some deal or other. at some point shouldn't have point and they shouldn't have neste— point and they shouldn't have mete—se- point and they shouldn't have mete—se vve| point and they shouldn't have. made-so we can made the concession. so we can reverse-se— made the concession. so we can reverse-se ne — made the concession. so we can reverse .so we . do . made the concession. so we can reverse so we do trim reverse that. so we can do trim tnings— reverse that. so we can do trim tnings tite— reverse that. so we can do trim things like that. _ reverse that. so we can do trim things like that. but at the end of things like that. but at the end et tne— things like that. but at the end et tne tev— things like that. but at the end et tne dayv ven— things like that. but at the end of the day, you know, we've got to of the day, you know, we've got te mete— of the day, you know, we've got te nete tne— of the day, you know, we've got to make the economy run, not by teing— to make the economy run, not by teing vvnet— to make the economy run, not by doing what gordon- to make the economy run, not by doing what gordon brown did, vvnisn— doing what gordon brown did, vvnisnltring— doing what gordon brown did, which.bring in- doing what gordon brown did, which bring in loads of cheap which is bring in loads of cheap tetenr.— which is bring in loads of cheap tetenr. ven— which is bring in loads of cheap labour. you know- which is bring in loads of cheap labour. you know if labour. you know that if and i went— labour. you know that if and i vventt-te— labour. you know that if and i would .to analyse- labour. you know that if and i would to analyse that would have to analyse that nittien— would have to analyse that million people- would have to analyse that million people and say, all nignt— million people and say, all ngn, nen— million people and say, all right, how much of cheap right, how much of this cheap tetenr,— right, how much of this cheap tetent-vvent- right, how much of this cheap labour,-want to. right, how much of this cheap labour, want to get labour, because i want to get rid labour, because i want to get it et— labour, because i want to get it et tnet— labour, because i want to get rid of that because there are terners— farmers obviously complaining

tnet— farmers obviously complaining ttet—enr- farmers obviously complaining i ttet—entreet that one of the reasons our food prises— that one of the reasons our food nrises ee— that one of the reasons our food nrises se— that one of the reasons our food prices are so high,- that one of the reasons our food prices are so high, there's vegetettes— prices are so high, there's vegetables fields vegetables rotting in fields tnet— vegetables rotting in fields. ttet—went that british people just won't go that british people just won't ge-nist.— that british people just won't ge-nist. — that british people just won't ge-nist. tev- that british people just won't go.pick. how do- go and pick. how do we incentivise young british people? there's lots of jobs available to go available who don't want to go back work to go pick back to work to go and pick those strawberries. it'd be the devil's those strawberries. it'd be the tevit-s—i- those strawberries. it'd be the tevit-s—i sev| devil's own job, is what i say to devil's own job, is what i say te ven.— devil's own job, is what i say to you. because.- devil's own job, is what i say to you. because. because you tnen,— to you. because. because you tnevv, neente— to you. because. because you know, people don't want to do tnese— know, people don't want to do tnese iets— know, people don't want to do those jobs. you - know, people don't want to do those jobs. you know, had those jobs. you know, we had tnis—in— those jobs. you know, we had this-in cabinet. this discussion in cabinet many veers— this discussion in cabinet many veers-ent— this discussion in cabinet many years.and theresa- this discussion in cabinet many years and theresa may was years ago and theresa may was tetting— years ago and theresa may was. tetting—tettet talking about how she had talked to talking about how she had talked te-ner— talking about how she had talked to-her strawberry- talking about how she had talked to her strawberry farmers to one of her strawberry farmers ent— to one of her strawberry farmers ent-sett— to one of her strawberry farmers and.said, well,- to one of her strawberry farmers and said, well, what will and she said, well, what will you— and she said, well, what will you-you- and she said, well, what will ven-ven sen-t- and she said, well, what will ven-ven sen-t geti you do, too, if you can't get tnis— you do, too, if you can't get tnis tnis— you do, too, if you can't get this, this labour?- you do, too, if you can't get this, this labour? he said, vvett— this, this labour? he said, visit it— this, this labour? he said, well, i'll have- this, this labour? he said, well, i'll have to automate. reen— well, i'll have to automate. teen rigtt— well, i'll have to automate. yeah, right, exactly. yeah, well, i'll have to automate. yeah, yout, exactly. yeah, well, i'll have to automate. yeah, you have ctly. yeah, well, i'll have to automate. yeah, you have to y. yeah, well, i'll have to automate. yeah, you have to invest, you right. you have to invest, you tnen,— right. you have to invest, you know, se— right. you have to invest, you know, so that's- right. you have to invest, you know, so that's one of the dimensions,- know, so that's one of the dimensions, you know, you can't, ven— dimensions, you know, you can't, ven tnen,— dimensions, you know, you can't, ven know, in— dimensions, you know, you can't, ven know, in ene— dimensions, you know, you can't, you know, in one sense people are you know, in one sense people eresen-t tetv- you know, in one sense people are-can't rely on- you know, in one sense people are can't rely on cheap are say you can't rely on cheap tetenr,— are say you can't rely on cheap tetenr, its— are say you can't rely on cheap labour, it's dead- are say you can't rely on cheap labour, it's dead right. but tnere— labour, it's dead right. but tnere ee— labour, it's dead right. but there are ways- labour, it's dead right. but there are ways to deal with ttet.— there are ways to deal with ttet-ere— there are ways to deal with that. - are ways - there are ways to deal with that. are ways to deal that. there are ways to deal witn— that. there are ways to deal vvitn-vvnisn- that. there are ways to deal with -which in- that. there are ways to deal with which in which we with that in which in which we tetiver— with that in which in which we tetiver-iets— with that in which in which we deliver-jobs for- with that in which in which we deliver jobs for brits. deliver better jobs for brits. vvnen— deliver better jobs for brits. vvnen-teing- when we were doing the referendum- when we were doing the. referendum -the when we were doing the- referendum -the one referendum campaign, the one stetenent— referendum campaign, the one statement stuck- referendum campaign, the one statement stuck in my mind, it e-vvne— statement stuck in my mind, it e-vvne en— statement stuck in my mind, it was a.who ran a- statement stuck in my mind, it was a who ran a painting was a man who ran a painting tesereting— was a man who ran a painting decorating company. was decorating company. he was netting— decorating company. he was vvertinglnv— decorating company. he was working my house. he working in my house. he comes tren— working in my house. he comes from .yorkshire- working in my house. he comes from .yorkshire and- working in my house. he comes from yorkshire and he said from west yorkshire and he said he from west yorkshire and he said is es— from west yorkshire and he said he was .favour- from west yorkshire and he said

he was .favour of- from west yorkshire and he said he was favour of brexit. he was in favour of brexit. i sett— he was in favour of brexit. i an, tinte— he was in favour of brexit. i an, why? he— he was in favour of brexit. i said, why? he said immigration. mr said, why? he said immigration. tir tevis— said, why? he said immigration. tir tevis. i— said, why? he said immigration. mr davis. i thought, oh, here we go mr davis. i thought, oh, here we 90 -— mr davis. i thought, oh, here we ge . se— mr davis. i thought, oh, here we ge . se i— mr davis. i thought, oh, here we ge . se i sett— mr davis. i thought, oh, here we go . so i said, well,- mr davis. i thought, oh, here we go . so i said, well, don't you go. so i said, well, don't you tite— go. so i said, well, don't you like foreigners?- go. so i said, well, don't you like foreigners? oh no, like foreigners? he said, oh no, no. like foreigners? he said, oh no, ne-it— like foreigners? he said, oh no, ne-it i— like foreigners? he said, oh no, ne-it i were- like foreigners? he said, oh no, ne-it i e- no. he said, if i were a tenenien— no. he said, if i were a romanian or- no. he said, if i were a romanian or i- no. he said, if i were a romanian or i a no. he said, if i were a- romanian or i-a pole, i'd romanian or i were a pole, i'd be here— romanian or i were a pole, i'd be here earning— romanian or i were a pole, i'd be here earning three times as much— be here earning three times as much money— be here earning three times as much money and— be here earning three times as much money and sending it home a geod— much money and sending it home a good en— much money and sending it home a good on them.— much money and sending it home a good on them. he— much money and sending it home a good on them. he said, but bad on good on them. he said, but bad eee-eee— good on them. he said, but bad eee-eee .— good on them. he said, but bad eee-eee , vee- good on them. he said, but bad on-said , you know- good on them. he said, but bad on said , you know why.7 on you. he said, you know why.7 eeeeuee— on you. he said, you know why.7 because i— on you. he said, you know why.7 because i haven't— on you. he said, you know why.7 because i haven't had a pay increase .ten_ because i haven't had a pay increase ten years and i increase for ten years and if i eeen-e— increase for ten years and if i eeen-e-mm — increase for ten years and if i eeen-e-mm e— increase for ten years and if i didn't-him a job,- increase for ten years and if i didn't him a job, my son didn't give him a job, my son women-e— didn't give him a job, my son wouldn't have— didn't give him a job, my son wouldn't have one. so that's whee— wouldn't have one. so that's what wee— wouldn't have one. so that's what we've got— wouldn't have one. so that's what we've got to fix, you know, and— what we've got to fix, you know, and-een— what we've got to fix, you know, and-eenlehee— what we've got to fix, you know, and-eenlehee .— what we've got to fix, you know, and can that . there are and we can do that. there are ways— and we can do that. there are ways ef— and we can do that. there are ways of training,— and we can do that. there are ways of training, investment, eneeueemenge— ways of training, investment, encouragement work. encouragement back into work. all encouragement back into work. au these— encouragement back into work. all those things. _ encouragement back into work. all those things. but we don't need— all those things. but we don't need-ee— all those things. but we don't needldo n— all those things. but we don't need-do it as— all those things. but we don't need-do it as a— all those things. but we don't need do it as a fight on it. need to do it as a fight on it. we— need to do it as a fight on it. we need— need to do it as a fight on it. we need ee— need to do it as a fight on it. we need to do— need to do it as a fight on it. we need to dolas- need to do it as a fight on it. we need to do as a discussion we need to do it as a discussion in e— we need to do it as a discussion in a cabinet— we need to do it as a discussion in a cabinet committee, not on me— in a cabinet committee, not on the frene— in a cabinet committee, not on the front pages. _ in a cabinet committee, not on the front pages. xacfi the front pages. exactly. fantastic.— the front pages. exactly. fantastic. thank- the front pages. xacfi fantastic. thank you. david neve,— fantastic. thank you. david davie-geod- fantastic. thank you. david davis,-good to- fantastic. thank you. david davis, good to see you. davis, always good to see you. riem- — davis, always good to see you. riem- -eeme- davis, always good to see you. right.-come, is- davis, always good to see you. right. come, is working right. still to come, is working from—fer— right. still to come, is working from -for society?- right. still to come, is working from for society? 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ukraine, so many political ukraine, like so many political leaders view, leaders in history, in my view, this war has now just become an expedient distraction expedient political distraction from domestic failure. there's nothing new about what we're seeing a very seeing here. paul makes a very good it's good the uk is good point. it's good the uk is supporting— good point. it's good the uk is euopohhg-houu- supporting ukraine. paul, i agree— supporting ukraine. paul, i agree-thou- supporting ukraine. paul, i- agree .that.-many agree with that. but how many times— agree with that. but how many times-uh— agree with that. but how many times uk interfered in times has the uk interfered in other— times has the uk interfered in other countries— times has the uk interfered in other countries conflicts and is paying— other countries conflicts and is puyhg eoeuy— other countries conflicts and is paying costly for_ other countries conflicts and is paying costly for it? don't forget— paying costly for it? don't forget the— paying costly for it? don't forget the iraq. blair forget the war in iraq. blair zoos— forget the war in iraq. blair 2003.whole_ forget the war in iraq. blair 2003 whole point the 2003 the whole point in the middle— 2003 the whole point in the huddle-h— 2003 the whole point in the middle-in chaos- 2003 the whole point in the middle in chaos is middle east is in chaos is because— middle east is in chaos is because .that- middle east is in chaos is because that wretched war. because of that wretched war. anu— because of that wretched war. one hon — because of that wretched war. one hon says.— because of that wretched war. one hon says. i— because of that wretched war. and ron says, i find— because of that wretched war. and ron says, i find it- and ron says, i find it disturbing sunak keeps disturbing that sunak keeps giving money zelenskyy when disturbing that sunak keeps giv are money zelenskyy when disturbing that sunak keeps giv are going zelenskyy when disturbing that sunak keeps giv are going zele|a kyy when disturbing that sunak keeps giv are going zele|a costvhen disturbing that sunak keeps giv are going zele|a cost ofen we are going through a cost of living crisis caused by the said war commas, just war in inverted commas, just another to keep us poor. another excuse to keep us poor. although course if putin won, although of course if putin won, imagine cost of gas and imagine the cost of gas and grain coming out of ukraine, it'll all soar. now we're hohhhe— it'll all soar. now we're talking about- c a now we're talking about working from it'll all soar. now we're- talking about working from home, which— talking about working from home, which hoe— talking about working from home, which has become— talking about working from home, which has become the new to heme— which has become the new to tend shee— which has become the new to trend since the— which has become the new to trend since the pandemic. i eouhuhh— trend since the pandemic. i couldn't bear— trend since the pandemic. i couldn't bear it,— trend since the pandemic. i couldn't bear it, actually. i ooh-t— couldn't bear it, actually. i ooh-h hhou— couldn't bear it, actually. i don't know if— couldn't bear it, actually. i don't know if you could bear, huh— don't know if you could bear, but concerns— don't know if you could bear, but concerns have been raised. heu— but concerns have been raised. hey—found- but concerns have been raised. new—found that. but concerns have been raised. new—found that the new research has found that the benefits— new research has found that the benefits of— new research has found that the benefits of flexible working are being— benefits of flexible working are being-towards- benefits of flexible working are being towards higher benefits of flexible working are being fiasctowards higher benefits of flexible working are being sclrds higher benefits of flexible working are being ngher benefits of flexible working are being "yzywuiighe earners. but just how true is this? let's hear from the director of recruitment, director of sink recruitment, stephen morning,

stephen shepherd. good morning, stephen. we're all still kind stephen. so we're all still kind of post—pandemic coming to terms with the significant social changes that we're experiencing and working from home is, i would say top three of the changes that we've seen in our in our lives. so this new research is saying that some people are benefiting and other people are benefiting and other people aren't. just explain that for a little . well, only 25% for us a little. well, only 25% of people— for us a little. well, only 25% of people h— for us a little. well, only 25% of people in the— for us a little. well, only 25% of people in the uk- c»; c well, only 25% of people in the uk work “5 c well, only 25% of people in the uk work in offices— of people in the uk work in offices and— of people in the uk work in offices and the— of people in the uk work in offices and the reality is that they-re— offices and the reality is that hheyhe the— offices and the reality is that they're the only— offices and the reality is that they're the only people that is working— they're the only people that is working from — they're the only people that is working from home, practically worke— working from home, practically works for. — working from home, practically works for. so _ working from home, practically works for. so the— working from home, practically works for. : works for. so the idea that you can legislate to force companies to allow people to work from home seems to be at best a bit of a distraction . um, i don't of a distraction. um, i don't really see that there's much evidence for it. in fact, most young people i speak to want to work from an office. they don't actually want to work from home and it causes a lot of problems. also in terms of training, creating ing a working

atmosphere for so i don't really see that there's, you know, a lot of appetite for it to be honest with you. i mean, it's one of the things that particularly people with young children , parents have and mums children, parents have and mums in particular have been asking for years , is a little bit more for years, is a little bit more flexible. motty for years, is a little bit more flexible . motty maybe that you flexible. motty maybe that you can flexible. motty maybe that you oo— flexible. motty maybe that you do the— flexible. motty maybe that you can do the odd— flexible. motty maybe that you can do the odd day— dix motty maybe that you can do the odd day from home and it can do the odd day from home and h helpe— can do the odd day from home and h hehpe you— can do the odd day from home and h hehpe you pick— can do the odd day from home and it helps you pick the— can do the odd day from home and it helps you pick the kids up hom— it helps you pick the kids up from school— it helps you pick the kids up from school and— it helps you pick the kids up from school and all of that sort of stuff.— from school and all of that sort of stuff. oo— from school and all of that sort of stuff. do you— from school and all of that sort of stuff. do you think it's the hind— of stuff. do you think it's the kind of— of stuff. do you think it's the kind of thing— of stuff. do you think it's the kind of thing that just does euh— kind of thing that just does euh some— kind of thing that just does suit some people and just i think— suit some people and just i thhh h-e— suit some people and just i think it's particularly delineated- think it's particularly delineated by age, actually, heeouee— delineated by age, actually, heeouee h— delineated by age, actually, because if you're your 20 s, because if you're in your 20 s, vou— because if you're in your 20 s, you ooh-h— because if you're in your 20 s, you ooh-h wont— because if you're in your 20 s, you don't want to— because if you're in your 20 s, you don't want to just sit in your— you don't want to just sit in your bedroom _ you don't want to just sit in your bedroom your you don't want to just sit in your bedroom .your all your bedroom on your laptop all morhhg. —he- your bedroom on your laptop all morning. be chatting morning. you want to be chatting ouhu— morning. you want to be chatting around-heter— morning. you want to be chatting around water cooler, don't around the water cooler, don't youe— around the water cooler, don't youe-yeah— around the water cooler, don't you?.yeah,-think- around the water cooler, don't you? yeah, think so. you? so yeah, no, i think so. anu— you? so yeah, no, i think so. and i— you? so yeah, no, i think so. and i think— you? so yeah, no, i think so. and i think also— you? so yeah, no, i think so. and i think also there's- you? so yeah, no, i think so. and i think also there's a lot of social benefits that come from working from an office and an office environment. it does actually work. you know, we have offices a reason . um, but offices for a reason. um, but certainly , i mean, most of my certainly, i mean, most of my clients have always been flexible when it comes to

allowing people to work from home. say, 1 or 2 days a week. so it's, it's not probably as new as people would think. it's obviously 2019 andy mayer nick has made it more every day , but has made it more every day, but i don't see an appetite for any kind of legislation can force companies to offer it as an option. stephen i'm glad you mentioned that of course, because this big labour party policy document which leaked at the weekend, showed that labour are considering it are considering making it a right law to work from home. right in law to work from home. i don't know how that works. if you-e— i don't know how that works. if you-e o— i don't know how that works. if you're a nurse or— i don't know how that works. if you're a nurse or a— i don't know how that works. if you're a nurse or a doctor, but oeso— you're a nurse or a doctor, but also the— you're a nurse or a doctor, but also the-policy- you're a nurse or a doctor, but also the policy documents also the same policy documents suggest—um- also the same policy documents suggest—will not- also the same policy documents suggest will not be suggest that people will not be oute— suggest that people will not be able .contact_ suggest that people will not be able .contact him _ suggest that people will not be able-contact him .- suggest that people will not be able contact him . you can't able to contact him. you can't eohhoet— able to contact him. you can't eohhoeh oeophe— able to contact him. you can't contact people outside of normal ofhee— contact people outside of normal office hours— contact people outside of normal office hours if— contact people outside of normal office hours if they're at home. i oeu— office hours if they're at home. i oeu hou— office hours if they're at home. i wonder how that— office hours if they're at home. i wonder how that would work for your— i wonder how that would work for your ehehhe— i wonder how that would work for yourehehhe. — i wonder how that would work for your clients . well,— i wonder how that would work for your clients . well, it- i wonder how that would work for your clients . �*fyhzgc c : " c your clients. well, it wouldn't really, to be honest with you . really, to be honest with you. um, and i think look, i think if

you're going to ask companies to be flexible, you also have to ask employees to be flexible as well. it has to sort of work both ways because, you know , if both ways because, you know, if a company does well, their employees do well. and i think it's got to be viewed in more of a partnership then in a sort of them and us situation an and again bringing again sort of legislating for these things will probably cause more problems than it will solve. you know we've gone many , many years know we've gone many, many years without this legislation and it's i don't really see the appetite for it. i don't really see that it's solving a problem because i don't see that there is a problem. mhm. okay. all right— is a problem. mhm. okay. all right .— is a problem. mhm. okay. all hghh . thanh— is a problem. mhm. okay. all right . thank you.— mhm. okay. all right . thank you. stephen right. thank you. stephen shephe.d,_ right. thank you. stephen shepherd, their director of sync recruitment. _ shepherd, their director of sync recruitment. that— shepherd, their director of sync recruitment. : recruitment. that idea that employers will not be able to contact their employees outside of the workplace is the idea. the idea of that the brilliant idea of that brilliant leader brilliant labour deputy leader angela it's angela rayner i mean it's completely birds, isn't completely for the birds, isn't it? is ridiculous and it? it is ridiculous and unenforceable, it's just not unenforceable, but it's just not very friendly, is it? very business friendly, is it? what's your incentive to set up

a what's your incentive to set up o smou— what's your incentive to set up a small business— what's your incentive to set up a small business if you say, heu— a small business if you say, ueh h— a small business if you say, ueh h ooh-h— a small business if you say, well i can't ring— a small business if you say, well i can't ring them at 6:00, if well i can't ring them at 6:00, h-oruere— well i can't ring them at 6:00, if-orders come— well i can't ring them at 6:00, if-orders come in- well i can't ring them at 6:00, if orders come in and i if late orders come in and i heed— if late orders come in and i need the— if late orders come in and i need the shadow chancellor, hoeheh— need the shadow chancellor, rachel reeves— need the shadow chancellor, rachel reeves and keir starmer heeh—hheee— rachel reeves and keir starmer been these meetings. been having all these meetings. we been having all these meetings. yue-prowe— been having all these meetings. we-prawn cocktail- we call it the prawn cocktail circuit in the city try to circuit in the city to try to show the business friendly and had we will make had a stroke. we will make people the to work people have the right to work from you won't be able from home and you won't be able to be called after 6:00 anyway. let us know you think. let us know what you think. vaiews@gbnews.uk email vaiews@gbnews.uk is the email address.— vaiews@gbnews.uk is the email address-come,- vaiews@gbnews.uk is the email address. come, keir address. still to come, sir keir storme— address. still to come, sir keir stormer—ofl starmer has been accused of a cynical— starmer has been accused of a cynical phot— starmer has been accused of a cynical phoh ho— starmer has been accused of a cynical plot to rig— starmer has been accused of a cynical plot to rig future eheehone— cynical plot to rig future elections. we'll find out why after— elections. we'll find out why he the— elections. we'll find out why after the news— elections. we'll find out why after the news with tamsin hohehe— after the news with tamsin hohehe .— after the news with tamsin roberts . dave— after the news with tamsin roberts . dave thank you. c112 roberts. dave thank you. here are roberts. dave thank you. here the— roberts. dave thank you. here are the headlines— roberts. dave thank you. here are the headlines at 1032. ukraine's president zelenskyy is meeting the prime minister today in a surprise visit to the uk. the ukrainian president is meeting rishi sunak at chequers, the prime minister's country retreat for what he's calling substantive negotiations over military aid. the meeting comes as the uk's pledge to send hundreds of new long—range

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news. channel good good morning. it's news. channel good morning. it's hose.— news. channel good morning. it's hose. thie— news. channel good morning. it's hose. this he— news. channel good morning. it's 1038. this is to— news. channel good morning. it's 1038. this is to the— good morning. it's 1038. this is to the point on gb newe— 1038. this is to the point on gb news with— 1038. this is to the point on gb news with andrew— 1038. this is to the point on gb news with andrew pierce and bev humer- — news with andrew pierce and bev humer- hou— news with andrew pierce and bev turner. now we're— news with andrew pierce and bev turner. hyzuu ”cl 2c: g “as: news with andrew pierce and bev turner. hyzuu :h; g “as: turner. now we're delighted to have us with in the studio is the political commentator bush taoiseach along side broadcaster and charity auctioneer johnny gould. now chatting just and charity auctioneer johnny gotair. now chatting just and charity auctioneer johnny gotair. now on, chatting just and charity auctioneer johnny gotair. now on, telliatting just and charity auctioneer johnny gotair. now on, telliattyou'vet off air. come on, tell us you've just come back from dubai and you flogged a car number plate would richard a car would bore me. richard a car number . but must be number plate. but there must be something special about something rather special about this plate. tell all. this number plate. tell us all. well was a charity called well it was a charity called billion charity, set up by

billion meals charity, set up by the ruler dubai. and to feed the ruler of dubai. and to feed a the ruler of dubai. and to feed o hhhoh— the ruler of dubai. and to feed o hhhoh of— the ruler of dubai. and to feed a billion of the— the ruler of dubai. and to feed a billion of the poor— the ruler of dubai. and to feed a billion of the poor in- j and to feed a billion of the poor in the youe.— a billion of the poor in the worm. so— a billion of the poor in the world. so you— a billion of the poor in the world. so you can imagine the huehehe— world. so you can imagine the numbers are pretty extraordinary. it was is 35 hoe,— extraordinary. it was is 35 hoe, hook— extraordinary. it was is 35 lots, took 3.5— extraordinary. it was is 35 lots, took 3.5 hours and i sold a car number plate for £12 mhhoh. — a car number plate for £12 million. i'm— a car number plate for £12 million. i'm in- a car number plate for £12 million. " eh?” a car number plate for £12- million. i'm in complete shock. what's so special— million. i'm in complete shock. what's so special about- million. " eh?” 5 what's so special about this humeru— what's so special about this number plate?— what's so special about this number plate? well, the number was number plate? well, the number just— number plate? well, the number just seven— number plate? well, the number was just seven and— number plate? well, the number was just seven and seven is not just— was just seven and seven is not just o— was just seven and seven is not just o humeru— was just seven and seven is not just a number that's deemed to be just a number that's deemed to he huehy— just a number that's deemed to be lucky amongst— just a number that's deemed to be lucky amongst in the world, but be lucky amongst in the world, huh h-e— be lucky amongst in the world, huh he the— be lucky amongst in the world, but it's the favourite number of the-of— but it's the favourite number of the-of huhoh — but it's the favourite number of the-of dubai. so- but it's the favourite number of the-of dubai. so if- but it's the favourite number of the of dubai. �*" the ruler of dubai. so if you've got anything to do with seven, apparently, you're his apparently, and you're in his good books, he buy it? no, good books, did he buy it? no, no, no. who did buy it or- :: : : 7 no, no, no. who did buy it or don't you— no, no. who did buy it or don't you hhoue— no, no. who did buy it or don't you hhoue ho— no, no. who did buy it or don't you know? no idea. with no, no. who did buy it or don't you know? no idea. m] :7 m] you know? no idea. no idea? no. but somebody with a lot of money is on the telephone or is it done on the telephone or in. no, it was it was all done in. no, it was it was all done he oeeoh. — in. no, it was it was all done he peoh h— in. no, it was it was all done in person. it was— in. no, it was it was all done in person. it was 3.5- " no, it was it was all done in person. c 15 l: " no, it was it was all done in person. : 5 l3 155 in person. it was 3.5 hours, 35 lots.i in person. it was 3.5 hours, 35 lots. i was on stage till two in the morning because it was the middle of ramadan and you're the you are the world record holder, johnny, much money you are the world record holder, johnny,earned much money you are the world record holder, johnny,earned atnuch money you are the world record holder, johnny,earned at auctionhney you've earned at auction for charities, you? well, charities, aren't you? well, i've got three world- u5” c 7 well, i've got three world records in individual— i've got three world records in individual lots.— i've got three world records in individual lots. _ i've got three world records in individual lots. i— i've got three world records in individual lots. : individual lots. i would not ute— individual lots. i would not

like to claim that i'm the world record think in record holder because i think in america charity america there are charity auctioneers. no idea what auctioneers. i've no idea what they're but in they're raising, but i know in they're raising, but i know in the uk. yeah. so what? what's your— the uk. yeah. so what? what's your worth— the uk. yeah. so what? what's your world record?— yeah. so what? what's your world record? my 5 will your world record? my > well toe—number- your world record? my > well i've number plate, i've world record number plate, world number world record mobile phone number which £1 million and which i sold for £1 million and you uke which i sold for £1 million and you like this one andrew you might like this one andrew a world cricket bat which world record cricket bat which i sold for £100,000, £100,000. was signed by. it was ms was it signed by. it was ms uhohto— was it signed by. it was ms dhoni's bat that he used hit dhoni's bat that he used to hit the winning the world the winning six in the world cup. oh, and i think you've eheu— cup. oh, and i think you've earned-million- cup. oh, and i think you've earned-million for- cu oh, and i think you've earned million for charity. earned 235 million for charity. vou— earned 235 million for charity. you-rehea— earned 235 million for charity. you-raised via- earned 235 million for charity. you raised via your you have raised via your ouehohe— you have raised via your auctions to— you have raised via your auctions to date. brilliant. anu— auctions to date. brilliant. ahu you-e— auctions to date. brilliant. and you've never- auctions to date. brilliant. and you've never been- auctions to date. brilliant. and you've never been in an auction your life? auction house in your life? never where learn never once. where did you learn they wouldn't allow me where never once. where did you learn thejyou uldn't allow me where never once. where did you learn thejyou learn allow me where never once. where did you learn thejyou learn itllow me where never once. where did you learn thejyou learn it from? e where never once. where did you learn thejyou learn it from? how where never once. where did you learn thejyou learn it from? how didare did you learn it from? how did you made it up as i go you just made it up as i go along. gift of the gab. you have the gift. blarney stone? yeah > bushra. good morning. how : 7 / > bushra. good morning. how much hove— bushra. good morning. how much hove-for— bushra. good morning. how much have-for charity?- bushra. good morning. how much have for charity? how'd have you made for charity? how'd you—hu— have you made for charity? how'd you—he e- have you made for charity? how'd you—he a th- you follow that? it's a bit. that— you follow that? it's a bit. that to. — you follow that? it's a bit. that is. that— you follow that? it's a bit. that is. that is. - you follow that? it's a bit. that is. that is. that- you follow that? l l that is. that is. that is. that's probably— that is. that's probably extraordinary. i .— that's probably extraordinary. i . oo— that's probably extraordinary. i . to, .— that's probably extraordinary. i mean, i do, i do— that's probably extraordinary. i mean, i do, i do lots of charity— mean, i do, i do lots of charity, but— mean, i do, i do lots of charity, but those numbers are eighth— charity, but those numbers are signific aren't— charity, but those numbers are signific aren't numbers. so honesty.— signific aren't numbers. so honestly, well— signific aren't numbers. so honestly, well done.- signific aren't numbers. so honestly, well done. and congratulations. anything me congratulations. anything for me when to charities. when it comes to charities. huge. so say huge. so let's all just say the. — huge. so let's all just say the. au— huge. so let's all just say

fine. all the— huge. so let's all just say fine. all the auctioneers best auctioneers are men, aren't they? there's massive they? yes. there's a massive hole there's hole in the market. there's a massive hole. yeah. they've got power guys have to power of push. you guys have to step— power of push. you guys have to step. _ power of push. you guys have to step. there— power of push. you guys have to step there is a gap. oh, step in. there is a gap. oh, that-e— step in. there is a gap. oh, that's interesting,— step in. "chi; 953 oh, that's interesting, isn't it? i unt— that's interesting, isn't it? i think ou— that's interesting, isn't it? i think all the— that's interesting, isn't it? i think all the charity- that's interesting, isn't it? i think all the charity has. that's interesting, isn't it? i think all the charity has been to. they've always been by men. jeffrey archer is very well known. yeah ross. known. one. yeah charlie ross. charlie ross. excellent. yeah > yeah, right. talk about yeah, right. let's talk about the.— yeah, right. let's talk about the. wee— yeah, right. let's talk about this. we're still— yeah, right. let's talk about this. we're still talking about ohey— money, actually, to some extent, heeouee—the- money, actually, to some extent,| because—the depher because this is about the depher the situation— because this is about the depher the situation with— because this is about the depher the situation with our food. huehro— the situation with our food. huehro the— the situation with our food. bushra the farmers are holding ouste— bushra the farmers are holding crisis meetings— bushra the farmers are holding crisis meetings with rishi sunak to soy— crisis meetings with rishi sunak to say were— crisis meetings with rishi sunak to soy gang— crisis meetings with rishi sunak to say we're going to have to increase our food— to say we're going to have to increase our food prices because we ooh-t— increase our food prices because we ooh-t mowe— increase our food prices because we can't make ends— increase our food prices because we can't make ends meet. we cannot— we can't make ends meet. we cannot ape,— we can't make ends meet. we cannot cope, can— we can't make ends meet. we cannot cope, can we as customers to howe— cannot cope, can we as customers to have food— cannot cope, can we as customers to have food prices— cannot cope, can we as customers to have food prices go up again? we to have food prices go up again? we cant— to have food prices go up again? we cent the— to have food prices go up again? we can't. this is— to have food prices go up again? we can't. this is this is absolutely— we can't. this is this is absolutely ludicrous. l absolutely ludicrous. it's so difficult— absolutely ludicrous. it's so difficult with— absolutely ludicrous. it's so difficult with with the cost of living crisis , families are living crisis, families are barely coping to eat properly, to buy the right food. and if now this goes up— to buy the right food. and if now this goes up and- g : and if now this goes up and obviously got— now this goes up and obviously got the— now this goes up and obviously we've got the you— now this goes up and obviously we've got the you know, we have thhotoh— we've got the you know, we have thhotoh oe— we've got the you know, we have inflation as well— we've got the you know, we have inflation as well and the fact that— inflation as well and the fact that w-wee— inflation as well and the fact that we've just— inflation as well and the fact that we've just had had the bank of england— that we've just had had the bank of england hoe— that we've just had had the bank of england has-up- that we've just had had the bank of england has up the of england has put up the interest— of england has put up the interest-again,- of england has put up the interest again, this is interest rate again, this is very,— interest rate again, this is very,-difficult.-

interest rate again, this is very, difficult. and very, very difficult. and i totally— very, very difficult. and i totally understand why the tethere— totally understand why the farmers are _ totally understand why the farmers are asking this, farmers are asking for this, because— farmers are asking for this, because they— farmers are asking for this, because they themselves have to mote— because they themselves have to| mote—hut make ends meet themselves. but tteht— make ends meet themselves. but tteht suhot— make ends meet themselves. but rishi sunak has— make ends meet themselves. but rishi sunak has step in and rishi sunak has to step in and go, otoy— rishi sunak has to step in and go, otoy, whet— rishi sunak has to step in and go, okay, what what is the eotuttohe— go, okay, what what is the solution? how— go, okay, what what is the solution? how are we going to teet— solution? how are we going to teat-thee— solution? how are we going to deal this? because families deal with this? because families are deal with this? because families ore-gothg— deal with this? because families are-going to— deal with this? because families are-going to he— deal with this? because families are going to be able to are not going to be able to ottott— are not going to be able to ottott the— are not going to be able to afford the hikes. �*ftt�*tzgl afford the hikes. well, he's going— afford the hikes. well, he's going supermarket going to call in supermarket bosses, understand, to bosses, we understand, to finally. you've telling finally. you've been telling him tolthot— finally. you've been telling him to.that.weeks_ finally. you've been telling him to .that.weeks on- finally. you've been telling him to.that.weeks on this- to do that for weeks on this show. — to do that for weeks on this show. how— to do that for weeks on this show. how long- to do that for weeks on this show. how long in- to do that for weeks on this show. as"; " to do that for weeks on this show. ltzgt'flg " to do that for weeks on this- show. how long in the same way that previous premiers have called in oil bosses, the bankers calling in the supermarket chiefs because they've suspicion. they've got to be a suspicion. johnny, to your johnny, if you go to your waitrose your sainsbury's and waitrose or your sainsbury's and there's want, there's a reduction in want, it's reduction in the it's the same reduction in the other shops. it's a cartel, isn't it? it certainly appears to us less informed individuals and, and you said it yourself, they've already the, the they've already been to the, the energy bosses. surely. what is the-ethgutotty— energy bosses. surely. what is the-singularly most- the most singularly most tmpottoht— the most singularly most important-to- the most singularly most important to poor important thing to poor families?— important thing to poor families?-food- important thing to poor families? : it's important thing to poor- families?-food . it's the families? it's food. it's the sustenance. every- families? l : it's the sustenance. every day, sustenance. - sustenance. every day, sustenance. so if ever there was a sustenance. so if ever there was t teet— sustenance. so if ever there was t teot thet— sustenance. so if ever there was a deal that needs— sustenance. so if ever there was a deal that needs to be done and a deal that needs to be done and a conversation— a deal that needs to be done and a conversation needs to be a conversation that needs to be had:— a conversation that needs to be how—tte— a conversation that needs to be how—tt-s t- a conversation that needs to be had,_|t's a labour. had, this is it. it's a labour shortage as well, though, isn't it, is the fact it, bushra? this is the fact that we've got lazy british teenagers that won't pick

vegetables of fields and vegetables out of fields and we've shortage of low paid we've got a shortage of low paid immigrants who are, immigrants who will now who are, you whatever reason you know, for whatever reason be that pandemic that people that post pandemic that people went to their countries went home to their own countries . no one's doing these jobs. no. and the thing is, this isn't eomeththe— and the thing is, this isn't something we've been facing something that we've been facing today.— something that we've been facing today—te— something that we've been facing totey—te o— something that we've been facing today._is a growing. today. this is this is a growing teeue— today. this is this is a growing teeueeeh-h— today. this is this is a growing issue been happening for issue that's been happening for yeoe— issue that's been happening for yeote-toh-t— issue that's been happening for yeote-toh-t to- issue that's been happening for years. don't do those years. people don't do those very—thatl years. people don't do those. very—that we very basic, simple jobs that we eth— very basic, simple jobs that we etttt-oeoote— very basic, simple jobs that we still-peoplelthis- still need people in this country— still need people in this country to— still need people in this country to do,- still need people in this country to do, because what what eeeehttotty— essentially people want to do are essentially people want to do the,— essentially people want to do are the, let's— essentially people want to do are the, let's say,— essentially people want to do are the, let's say, the better tote,— are the, let's say, the better tote, the— are the, let's say, the better jobs, the higher— are the, let's say, the better jobs, the higher paid jobs. but we-oeoote- jobs, the higher paid jobs. but we-oeoote th- jobs, the higher paid jobs. but we people in these we still need people in these otoeee— we still need people in these places, especially the ones that the— places, especially the ones that the th— places, especially the ones that the th the — places, especially the ones that live in the uk. _ places, especially the ones that live in the uk. �*ftt�*tzgl live in the uk. well, i've got a draconian solution. there are 11. i checked, 1.53 million people are joining an out of work no, you're not an work benefits. no, you're not an out of work benefits. go and pick some fruit if you want your benefits. why not? i'm 100% agree. i think at the end of the day,— agree. i think at the end of the toy, ho— agree. i think at the end of the day no one— agree. i think at the end of the day, no one should— pgfihi i think at the end of the day, no one should have a sense of entitlement— day, no one should have a sense of entitlement to— day, no one should have a sense of entitlement to receive money for of entitlement to receive money to tothg— of entitlement to receive money for doing nothing.— of entitlement to receive money for doing nothing. i have fond memories-child.- for doing nothing. i have fond. memories-child.-in memories as a child. my dad in the hotttoye— memories as a child. my dad in the holidays-i— memories as a child. my dad in the holidays-i was- memories as a child. my dad in the holidays i was very the holidays when i was very young— the holidays when i was very young saying,— the holidays when i was very young saying, right, we're off to-ettowhewy— young saying, right, we're off to strawberry fields. down to the strawberry fields. down the—gothe- to the strawberry fields. down the—gothelotetl the road you're going to pick strawberries— strawberries all day long and you— strawberries all day long and you come— strawberries all day long and you came-with- strawberries all day long and you came with bloodied

you came home with bloodied tthgete— you came home with bloodied| fingers—despite fingers with backache, despite the toot— fingers with backache, despite the toot-you— fingers with backache, despite the fact .you .the - fingers with backache, despite the fact you the you the fact that you in the you know— the fact that you in the you thowlthe — the fact that you in the you know,.the in— the fact that you in the you know, the in your prime of know, in the in your prime of your— know, in the in your prime of your youth. — know, in the in your prime of youtyouth. hut— know, in the in your prime of your youth. but the reality was it your youth. but the reality was tt-tt— your youth. but the reality was tt-tt woe— your youth. but the reality was tt-tt o— your youth. but the reality was it it was a character it was a it was a character hutttthg— it was a it was a character building experience. and think building experience. and i think uhtottuhote. — building experience. and i think unfortunate. we've created an hwtohmehet— unfortunate. we've created an environment,_in environment, whether it be in eehoote— environment, whether it be in schools, - society- environment, whether it be in schools, society where schools, we're in society where there-e— schools, we're in society where there-e o— schools, we're in society where there-e o teet— schools, we're in society where there's a real-of- schools, we're in society where there's a real of self there's a real sense of self entitlement— there's a real sense of self. entitlement—need there's a real sense of self- entitlement_need to entitlement and people need to understand— entitlement and people need to understand-of- entitlement and people need to understand of money understand the value of money ont— understand the value of money ent-hott— understand the value of money and-hard work— understand the value of money and-hard work. - understand the value of money and hard work . and good hard work. busher whet-s— and good hard work. busher what's wrong with it? saying that you you your benefits, that you you want your benefits, get your backside and go and get off your backside and go and pick some pick. if you're pick some fruit. pick. if you're young, there is absolutely nothing with it. and i nothing wrong with it. and i totally agree you, nothing wrong with it. and i. totally agree .you, johnny. totally agree with you, johnny. i totally agree with you, johnny. . teotty— totally agree with you, johnny. . teotty teet— totally agree with you, johnny. i really feel-this- totally agree with you, johnny. i really feel this country i really feel like this country ghee— i really feel like this country. etwee—tt-e gives money away for free. it's too— gives money away for free. it's too-to— gives money away for free. it's too-to get— gives money away for free. it's too -to get money- gives money away for free. it's too to get money in this too easy to get money in this country,— too easy to get money in this country whteh— too easy to get money in this country, which making the, country, which is making the, tete— country, which is making the, tet-e-the— country, which is making the, let's-the people- country, which is making the, let's the people that don't let's say, the people that don't wont— let's say, the people that don't wohtlwott— let's say, the people that don't want-work just— let's say, the people that don't want work just saying, well, want to work just saying, well, oetuotty— want to work just saying, well, oetuottyleoh— want to work just saying, well, actuallyican-earn- want to work just saying, well,| actuallyican-earn-if actually i can just earn more if i actually i can just earn more if t-home— actually i can just earn more if t-home tothg— actually i can just earn more if i home doing nothing. can i sit at home doing nothing. can i sit at home doing nothing. can . ety— i sit at home doing nothing. can . eoy oteo— i sit at home doing nothing. can . eoy oteo, .— i sit at home doing nothing. can i say also, i think— i sit at home doing nothing. can i say also, i think we parents ot— i say also, i think we parents are at fault. _ i say also, i think we parents are at fault. i— i say also, i think we parents are at fault. i was- i say also, i think we parents are at fault. gtzgt g are at fault. i was just going to you know, i think we've to say, you know, i think we've allowed this. i've allowed this. i allowed this. i've allowed this. t-the— allowed this. i've allowed this. t-the other— allowed this. i've allowed this. i-the other day— : i've allowed this. i the other day contacted i only the other day contacted my_at_ i only the other day contacted my_at university. my son, who's at university wotty,— my son, who's at university wotty, ont— my son, who's at university motty, and said,— my son, who's at university motty, and said, want my son, who's at university- motty, and said,-want to motty, and said, do you want to earn some extra— motty, and said, do you want to earn some extra cash? and i outw— earn some extra cash? and i an, .— earn some extra cash? and i an, . heet— earn some extra cash? and i said, i need help— earn some extra cash? and i said, i need help with my table otohe— said, i need help with my table otohe tot— said, i need help with my table ptohe to my— said, i need help with my table plans for my auctions. he plans for my auctions. and he goes,— plans for my auctions. and he goes-whate— plans for my auctions. and he goes,-what's the- plans for my auctions. and he goes, what's the rate? plans for my auctions. and he goes, and what's the rate?

plans for my auctions. and he goes, and i what's the rate? plans for my auctions. and he goes, and i went,; the rate? plans for my auctions. and he goes, and i went, £12.50. e? plans for my auctions. and he goes, and i went, £12.50. he dad? and i went, £12.50. he outw— dad? and i went, £12.50. he oath-to— dad? and i went, £12.50. he eottlto tt— dad? and i went, £12.50. he said,-do it for- dad? and i went, £12.50. he said,-do it for 20. - dad? and i went, £12.50. he said, do it for 20. and said, i'll do it for 20. and i outw— said, i'll do it for 20. and i an, wo— said, i'll do it for 20. and i an, to, ho— said, i'll do it for 20. and i said, no, no, he's- said, i'll do it for 20. and i said, no, no, he's got his auctioneer. _ said, no, no, he's got his auctioneer. : f auctioneer. blood's because that's what you'd have said. if it's in charity auction. my it's in a charity auction. my own so when did you end up own batus so when did you end up £15? did you know he £15? where did you know he refuses to do it for 1250. so i've elsewhere. but i've had to go elsewhere. but that-o— i've had to go elsewhere. but that-s etse— i've had to go elsewhere. but that's also because,- i've had to go elsewhere. but that's also because, you know, youngsters these days can earn a hell lot more money online. hell of a lot more money online. they can sit at home because i howe— they can sit at home because i have t— they can sit at home because i have o-oht— they can sit at home because i have a-and he— they can sit at home because i have a and he makes money have a son and he makes money onthe— have a son and he makes money onthe-thete— have a son and he makes money online. there, spends online. he sits there, spends a eouote— online. he sits there, spends a eouotelhoute— online. he sits there, spends a couple-hours on— online. he sits there, spends a couple hours on his computer couple of hours on his computer ont— couple of hours on his computer and oh— couple of hours on his computer the mote— couple of hours on his computer and can make double the amount that— and can make double the amount thotlwoutt— and can make double the amount that.would.doing- and can make double the amount that would doing what? so that he would do doing what? so what— that he would do doing what? so what he— that he would do doing what? so what he toes— that he would do doing what? so what he does is— that he would do doing what? so what he does is he— that he would do doing what? so what he does is he creates these ohtmotet— what he does is he creates these ohhhotet tte— what he does is he creates these animated it's-like- animated it's almost like etoththe— animated it's almost likei clothing—for clothing for characters for a dome.— clothing for characters for a tome-he- clothing for characters for a game.-he sells. clothing for characters for a l game.-he sells that clothing for characters for a - game.-he sells that on game. and then he sells that on tho— game. and then he sells that on ent—those- game. and then he sells that on and—those hats,- and people buy those hats, hoee— and people buy those hats, ehoee—to- and people buy those hats, shoes,_to dress| shoes, gloves just to dress theh— shoes, gloves just to dress their character. shoes, gloves just to dress- their character. -is there their character. there is there is huge online. and is is a huge market online. and is he making lots of— is a huge market online. and is he making lots of money?- g;i and is he making lots of money? he moeet— he making lots of money? he he .— he making lots of money? he makes, i probably say at least a hundred— makes, i probably say at least a hundred couple— makes, i probably say at least a hundred couple of— makes, i probably say at least a hundred couple of quid month makes, i probably say at least a hurhimself.iple of quid month makes, i probably say at least a hurhimself. le of quid month makes, i probably say at least a hurhimself. / quid month makes, i probably say at least a hurhimself. “43?“ “43?“ month makes, i probably say at least a hurhimself. “43?“ “43?“ >)nth makes, i probably say at least a hurhimself. / / > and is for himself. yeah. yeah > and is he o— for himself. yeah. yeah > and is he o teehogew— for himself. yeah. yeah > and is he a teenager? yeah,— for himself. / / > and is he a teenager? yeah, he's a teenager— he a teenager? yeah, he's a teenager ont— he a teenager? yeah, he's a teenager and he's at college and he—ttttte— teenager and he's at college and he—ttttte-oei he makes that little edem as a ette— he makes that little edem as a ette huette. — he makes that little edem as a side hustle. but— he makes that little edem as a side hustle. but it— he makes that little edem as a side hustle. l side hustle. but it is easier for them to do things online and this is the issue, the hard graft that we need people to go

and not being people and do is still not being people are not being paid enough for that because they can other that because they can do other jobs other thing which jobs that the other thing which perhaps is content aukus we've got in kent in got a lot of migrants in kent in hotels and we think we're going to put them in camps, to try and put them in camps, make pick flipping make them pick the flipping fruit because getting fruit because they're getting money. i have i don't money. i don't have a i don't howe— money. i don't have a i don't have oh— money. i don't have a i don't have an -with- money. i don't have a i don't have an-with that- money. i don't have a i don't- have an -with that concept. have an issue with that concept. i have an issue with that concept. . ththh— have an issue with that concept. . ththh the— have an issue with that concept. i think the issue— have an issue with that concept. i think the issue then— have an issue with that concept. i think the issue then is- have an issue with that concept. i think the issue then is this- i think the issue then is this the logistics of it, the last thing all do a thing you need is they all do a runner is they all do. they run do a runner anyway.— runner is they all do. they run do a runner anyway. yes,- “7c" t:tit they run do a runner anyway. yes, they uhtet— do a runner anyway. yes, they can. under lock— do a runner anyway. yes, they can. under lock and key in the hotel — can. under lock and key in the hotel -ahu— can. under lock and key in the hotel. -andlthink- can. under lock and key in the hotel. -andlthink isn'tj hotel. yeah. and i think isn't it fact that once it about the fact that once you're money you're earning money in a country, law will then country, the law will then protect being forced protect you from being forced out that country? well, we out of that country? well, we never out of that country? well, we newer-them — out of that country? well, we never-them out- out of that country? well, we . never-them out anyway. never forced them out anyway. anu— never forced them out anyway. hut mayhe— never forced them out anyway. hut maybe-tow— never forced them out anyway. and maybe - law -to i and maybe the law needs to change here, and maybe the law needs to chan because here, and maybe the law needs to chan because most here, and maybe the law needs to chan because most people �*e, and maybe the law needs to chan because most people want to then because most people want to work, they? single work, don't they? every single story just seems to story we cover, it just seems to be banner is just a lack of be the banner is just a lack of common sense. yeah, there's no common—weal common sense. i know. well, let's let's let's talk about this story then. this is this other story then. this is about conference this other story then. this is abotmorning, conference this other story then. this is abotmorning, this conference this other story then. this is abotmorning, this national:e this morning, this national conservativism conference. this morning, jacob morning, our very own jacob rees—mogg was talking there. apparently rees—mogg was talking there. apparentljthis morning by disrupted this morning by a protester. he won't mind that.

he mind that he can cope he won't mind that he can cope with that. but is there with that. but bushra, is there something deficit something about the deficit asians of is a asians now in 2023 of what is a conservative or what is a socialist? what do labour represent? i think there's a it's very difficult to distinguish between any party now. it is and the more conversations- now. it is and the more conversations i- it is and the more conversations i have with peopte— conversations i have with peopte. the— conversations i have with people, the more apparent that is people, the more apparent that te oetuotty— people, the more apparent that te oetuotty. t— people, the more apparent that is actually, i feel— people, the more apparent that is actually, i feel like the potttee— is actually, i feel like the potttee ote— is actually, i feel like the parties are merging together parties are all merging together and parties are all merging together the they-te— parties are all merging together the they-re very.— parties are all merging together and they're very, very close. tte— and they're very, very close. he very— and they're very, very close. tt-e very-to- it's very difficult to differentiate what party stands for, differentiate what party stands to. what— differentiate what party stands to. what ont— differentiate what party stands for, what and what we're facing te— for, what and what we're facing te thet— for, what and what we're facing now is that actually some of the potttee— now is that actually some of the potttee tete— now is that actually some of the potttee tet-e tuet— now is that actually some of the parties let's just use conservative labour parties let's just use- conservative-labour as an conservative and labour as an exempte— conservative and labour as an example. becoming very, example. they are becoming very, very— example. they are becoming very, weewehty-— example. they are becoming very, very-even-policies. very close. so even the policies the— very close. so even the policies the the— very close. so even the policies the the these— very close. so even the policies and the things and— very close. so even the policies and the things and what they you how.— and the things and what they you how—thet— know, what their their manifestos_ know, what their their manifestos is know, what their their manifestos-is very manifestos say is very, very toee — manifestos say is very, very toee aho— manifestos say is very, very close. and that's- manifestos say is very, very close. and that's why i think tthtthg— close. and that's why i think we're finding sort of we're finding this sort of eohuetoht— we're finding this sort of confusion about which party wohte— confusion about which party wohte to— confusion about which party wohte to to— confusion about which party wants to do what. but but in wants to do what. but but but in terms of what we're saying about the labour shortage, i feel, johnny, , every johnny, that everybody, every party just ready to throw out party is just ready to throw out the money. you don't want to work. we'll give you money. here's our benefits. society we're going to tax you higher than we've had in 70 years and then going to throw

then we're just going to throw it out for you. all but it all out for you. all but everybody seems to be representing mindset representing that mindset now. we a fearful society we live in a fearful society where— we live in a fearful society where the— we live in a fearful society where the whole concept of cancellation _ where the whole concept of cancellation ,— where the whole concept of cancellation , you know, the cancellation, you know, the comet— cancellation, you know, the cancel culture _ cancellation, you know, the cancel culture i— cancellation, you know, the cancel culture i think is owettoheh— cancel culture i think is overtaken everybody . and anybody overtaken everybody. and anybody in overtaken everybody. and anybody th thy— overtaken everybody. and anybody th ohy htht— overtaken everybody. and anybody th ohy htht ot— overtaken everybody. and anybody in any kind of public life is teottut— in any kind of public life is teottut ot— in any kind of public life is fearful of saying anything or appearing— fearful of saying anything or oppeuhho to— fearful of saying anything or appearing to step out of out of eyhe— appearing to step out of out of eyhe wtth— appearing to step out of out of sync with with— appearing to step out of out of sync with with everyone else. out— sync with with everyone else. hut you-e— sync with with everyone else. but you're absolutely right. for the-hoeh— but you're absolutely right. for the-hoeh to— but you're absolutely right. for the-hoeh to my- but you're absolutely right. for me, back to my mum, my me, i think back to my mum, my wotet— me, i think back to my mum, my wotet tow— me, i think back to my mum, my mum voted tory her— me, i think back to my mum, my mum voted tory her whole life. so mum voted tory her whole life. so t— mum voted tory her whole life. so t out— mum voted tory her whole life. so t out my— mum voted tory her whole life. so t out my hoht— mum voted tory her whole life. so i put my hand straight so i put my hand up straight away.— so i put my hand up straight owoy.-ehe- so i put my hand up straight away. -ehe woe- so i put my hand up straight away. -she was a- so i put my hand up straight away. she was a male away. she was she was a male teee-t— away. she was she was a male teoeut she— away. she was she was a male reader. she was— away. she was she was a male reader. she was conservative. reader. she was a conservative. hut—ott- reader. she was a conservative. hut—oh otoutl reader. she was a conservative.| but—all about fair but my mum was all about fair playt— but my mum was all about fair ptoy. hott— but my mum was all about fair ptoy. hut-ethe- but my mum was all about fair play, hard-ethic .- but my mum was all about fair play, hard ethic . the play, hard work ethic. the eoheeote— play, hard work ethic. the eoheepte ot— play, hard work ethic. the concepts of low- play, hard work ethic. the concepts of low tax, which you oeeoetoet— concepts of low tax, which you associate with _ concepts of low tax, which you associate with with old tory ooeehte— associate with with old tory governments. that's right. and otwtouety— governments. that's right. and otwtouety hot— governments. that's right. and obviously not the— governments. that's right. and obviously not the present one, that— obviously not the present one, that that— obviously not the present one, that that obviously is true as wet.— that that obviously is true as wet. hut— that that obviously is true as wett. hut tt— that that obviously is true as well. but it was— that that obviously is true as well. but it was just that sort of well. but it was just that sort ot teete— well. but it was just that sort of basic britishness fair play , of basic britishness fair play, teeeney— of basic britishness fair play, decency, honour,— of basic britishness fair play, decency, honour, hard work. that to me— decency, honour, hard work. that to me te— decency, honour, hard work. that to me te oht— decency, honour, hard work. that to me is and the— decency, honour, hard work. that to me is and the mere fact that you-e— to me is and the mere fact that you-e having— to me is and the mere fact that you-e having o— to me is and the mere fact that you're having a conference that is you're having a conference that te ttythg— you're having a conference that te ttytho to— you're having a conference that is trying to address what is the ttehttty— is trying to address what is the ttehttty eoye— is trying to address what is the identity says that— is trying to address what is the identity says that it says wowee— identity says that it says poee the— identity says that it says proves the point that people have — proves the point that people have toet— proves the point that people have lost the _ proves the point that people have lost the after 13 years of eoheewottwe— have lost the after 13 years of conservative rule. �*ftt�*ti; ”ti: g conservative rule. we're having a discussion about what does it

mean to be a conservative that should have been evidence in what they've been should have been evidence in what in they've been should have been evidence in what in last they've been should have been evidence in what in last 13 hey've been should have been evidence in what in last 13 years, been should have been evidence in what in last 13 years, and] taking in the last 13 years, and it hasn't and hasn't for 4 or it hasn't and it hasn't for 4 or 5 course, we're in 5 years. of course, we're in coalition those coalition with those pesky liberal course. liberal democrats of course. yeah. isn't it something to yeah. and isn't it something to do yeah. and isn't it something to to—the— yeah. and isn't it something to to—the-thotl yeah. and isn't it something toj do _the .that we do worry about the fact that we it do worry about the fact that we tt teete— do worry about the fact that we tt teete tthe— do worry about the fact that we it feels like a— do worry about the fact that we it feels like a lot— do worry about the fact that we it feels like a lot of our teetete— it feels like a lot of our leaders-our- it feels like a lot of our. leaders-our-no it feels like a lot of our- leaders-our-no longer leaders and our elites no longer see leaders and our elites no longer eee-uh— leaders and our elites no longer eee-uh oe— leaders and our elites no longer eee-uh oe o— leaders and our elites no longer see uk as a country. but we see the uk as a country. but we howe— see the uk as a country. but we have to— see the uk as a country. but we have to wet— see the uk as a country. but we have to view us— see the uk as a country. but we have to view us as— see the uk as a country. but we have to view us as part of the gtohot— have to view us as part of the otohot etuee— have to view us as part of the global stage. _arel global stage. now, there are some obvious— global stage. now, there are some obvious reasons why we have to to— some obvious reasons why we have to to that. — some obvious reasons why we have to do that. .course_ some obvious reasons why we have to do that. .course we- some obvious reasons why we have to do that. course we do. but to do that. of course we do. but i to do that. of course we do. but t-wohy— to do that. of course we do. but t-wohy thet— to do that. of course we do. but t-wohy thot tt— to do that. of course we do. but i-worry that it feels- to do that. of course we do. but i worry that it feels no i often worry that it feels no toheet— i often worry that it feels no longer-leaders- i often worry that it feels no longer-leaders in. longer that the leaders in charge— longer that the leaders in charge-ote— longer that the leaders in charge are predominantly charge are are predominantly thet— charge are are predominantly thet oht— charge are are predominantly first and foremost concerned wtth— first and foremost concerned wtth thte— first and foremost concerned with this country. they're concerned about our reputation. they-te— concerned about our reputation. they're reputation— concerned about our reputation. they're reputation on the global etude.— they're reputation on the global etoge. t— they're reputation on the global etooe. t teet— they're reputation on the global stage. i feel like— they're reputation on the global stage. i feel like what we're toothe— stage. i feel like what we're toothe ot— stage. i feel like what we're facing at the— stage. i feel like what we're facing at the moment was the ehottehee— facing at the moment was the ehottehge ot— facing at the moment was the challenge of covid. so i think right— challenge of covid. so i think right now we're kind of seeing the aftermath of that because that's what's kind of led the parties what they're parties to do what they're doing at you have the at the moment. you have the challenge trying still challenge of trying to still have vote, you still want have the vote, so you still want to each person vote to retain each person to vote for you've had the for you. and then you've had the issues covid some issues with covid and then some bad which we won't go bad decisions which we won't go into. i believe into. but i believe that

conservative party made some bad decisions. what what decisions. so what we what they're do is throw they're having to do is throw this at people say, this money out at people to say, you we're you know, technically, we're sorry happened , but sorry that this happened, but here some money for for here is some money for you for free. you know, whatever. you don't to work but don't have to work for it. but this is available to you now so don't have to work for it. but thiscanavailable to you now so don't have to work for it. but thiscan helptble to you now so don't have to work for it. but thiscan help you. 0 you now so don't have to work for it. but thiscan help you. 0 yo actually, we can help you. but actually, that's that's that's not the answer. that's not although that not the answer. so although that would happier to say, would make us happier to say, okay, what they're trying to do is their tracks. feel is cover their tracks. i feel like made decisions. like they made bad decisions. now cover the now they're trying to cover the tracks. have we're still tracks. and we have we're still having to deal with and having to deal with covid and johnny. was a big johnny. there was a big conference another conference on saturday, another forum. this was one funded by a men-tott— forum. this was one funded by a man-lord cruddas,- this was one funded by a man lord cruddas, tory man called lord cruddas, tory tohou— man called lord cruddas, tory donor._disguised| donor. it was thinly disguised as donor. it was thinly disguised oe bring— donor. it was thinly disguised as bring-boris.- donor. it was thinly disguised as bring boris. that's what as bring back boris. that's what they—thout- as bring back boris. that's what they—ohout .- as bring back boris. that's what they—about . therei they were talking about. there woe—the— they were talking about. there was—the former- was priti patel, the former home secretory— was priti patel, the former home secretary - dorries, - was priti patel, the former home secretary dorries, former secretary nadine dorries, former euttute— secretary nadine dorries, former culture secretary.— secretary nadine dorries, former culture secretary. is that the answer ? boris— culture secretary. is that the answer ? boris back how do you answer? boris back how do you teet— answer? boris back how do you teet ohout— answer? boris back how do you feel about that— answer? boris back how do you feel about that ?_ answer? boris back how do you feel about that ? is— answer? boris back how do you feel about that ? is your heart feel about that? is your heart ethhthe— feel about that? is your heart ethhthe ot— feel about that? is your heart ethhtho ot te— feel about that? is your heart sinking or is your— feel about that? is your heart sinking or is your heart? twetytouy— sinking or is your heart? everybody does- sinking or is your heart? everybody does that. - sinking or is your heart? everybody does that. everybody does that . you take a big does that. you take a big breath, sit back in your breath, you sit back in your chair your heart soaring . chair and your heart soaring. you think, what? the buzzer. ehoy— you think, what? the buzzer. ohoy whtuotty— you think, what? the buzzer. okay virtually all my friends hote— okay virtually all my friends hote hhh. — okay virtually all my friends hate him. . hate him. virtually all my friends hate him. so i'm slightly out of sync with the

fact why they hate him? fact that why do they hate him? well, he and he well, they think that he and he is he's dishonest. he's they don't consider honourable. don't consider him honourable. they he he will lie. he's they think he he will lie. he's selfish , he's self—centred. he selfish, he's self—centred. he makes me laugh, which is why i can't help but have an aspect of my personality. i do have some positive feelings about him . he, positive feelings about him. he, he, he he's charming. there's no question. he's charming . the question. he's charming. the best campaigner i've g the best campaigner i've ever seen . best campaigner i've ever seen. teete— best campaigner i've ever seen. teete oh— best campaigner i've ever seen. teete oh the— best campaigner i've ever seen. 100% on the streets. yeah, no, i teee— 100% on the streets. yeah, no, i agree wtth— 100% on the streets. yeah, no, i agree with that— 100% on the streets. yeah, no, i agree with that 100. ' t: e agree with that 100. and it's abundantly clear to me that all sorts of british citizens relate to him. like him, even to him. and like him, even though he's an old etonian. absolutely. from all strata of society. therefore, you could see why considered an see why he's considered an electoral asset. but at the same time, unfortunately, we are in a in a world where we're so divided on so many issues that my concern is that he's pretty much the most divisive of all, all because you are the hate him or you love him. there is no in between. and we do need almost a bonng between. and we do need almost a boring middle line. the thing with boring middle line. the thing wtth hotte— boring middle line. the thing with boris is— boring middle line. the thing with boris is if— boring middle line. the thing with boris is if you— boring middle line. the thing with boris is if you find- g t:t:ti; . the thing with boris is if you find him ehtettoththe—

with boris is if you find him entertaining isn't the reason why— entertaining isn't the reason why-woutt— entertaining isn't the reason why-would-him - entertaining isn't the reason why would him to be why we would want him to be te—eteetet— why we would want him to be re—elected.be_ why we would want him to be re—elected be elected prime re—elected or be elected prime wthtetet— re—elected or be elected prime minister-that's- re—elected or be elected prime minister-that's not- re—elected or be elected prime minister that's not the minister that's. that's not the reason-should- minister that's. that's not the reason-should be.- minister that's. that's not the reason should be. and reason why he should be. and i do reason why he should be. and i to-wtth— reason why he should be. and i to-wtth you— reason why he should be. and i do-with you that- reason why he should be. and i do with you that there's do agree with you that there's eomeththe— do agree with you that there's something endearing about his peteohottty.— personality, which is quite eohtootoue— personality, which is quite contagious public. personality, which is quite- contagious-public. but, contagious with the public. but, you—to- contagious with the public. but,| you—to remember you know, we have to remember that— you know, we have to remember that eoe— you know, we have to remember that ot— you know, we have to remember that some of the— you know, we have to remember that some of the decisions that he mote— that some of the decisions that he made frantically be he made quite frantically be owtut—howhei awful. you know, so having a oeeo— awful. you know, so having a peeo tthe— awful. you know, so having a person like that— awful. you know, so having a person like that again in power, awful. you know, so having a peleadership,at again in power, awful. you know, so having a pe leadership, i again in power, awful. you know, so having a pe leadership, i would in power, in leadership, i would definitely— in leadership, i would definitely for. in leadership, i would- definitely-for. but definitely not vote for. but i why— definitely not vote for. but i can see why people are sort of eoyho— can see why people are sort of eoytholmoyte— can see why people are sort of eoytholmoyhe we- can see why people are sort of saying, maybe we should saying, oh, maybe we should oueettoh— saying, oh, maybe we should question that. _ saying, oh, maybe we should question that. okay, let's do another—today. i question that. okay, let's do. another—today. this another story from today. this is another story from today. this teohe— t- another story from today. this teohe— t ton-t- is i mean, this one, i don't know where the to despair or applaud this story. johnny gould highway chiefs are hunting a phantom pothole filler. we are all sick of the state of our roads. and this pothole really ehoutt— roads. and this pothole really ehoutt he— roads. and this pothole really should be given— roads. and this pothole really should be given a— : and this pothole really should be given a gong. it's a concrete vigilante. t/ti;5 t: concrete vigilante. yes. and geot— concrete vigilante. yes. and good tot— concrete vigilante. yes. and good for him or her. where concrete vigilante. t/ti;5 t: g: i where this good for him or her. where this happened.— good for him or her. where this happened tt— good for him or her. where this happened, it was— good for him or her. where this happened, it was in— g: i where this happened, it was in cornwall. it happened, it was in cornwall. tt wee— happened, it was in cornwall. tt t— happened, it was in cornwall. tt to thee— happened, it was in cornwall. it was a place called- it was a place called lostwithiel. personally i think they should rename it lost the will to live. yeah, because decisions like this, highways england. you spend england. chief, if you spend five hunting this five minutes less hunting this man down. yeah, yeah. five

minutes more. fixing the road. it's one big pothole that's so big. it's closed the whole road. i saw a pothole near me. the other— i saw a pothole near me. the other toy.— i saw a pothole near me. the other day tte— i saw a pothole near me. the other day. it's the _ i saw a pothole near me. the other day. it's the size two other day. it's the size of two toothette— other day. it's the size of two footballs. if— other day. it's the size of two footballs. iflcar_ other day. it's the size of two footballs. if car goes in it, footballs. if a car goes in it, tte— footballs. if a car goes in it, he gothg— footballs. if a car goes in it, he going to. — footballs. if a car goes in it, it's going to. this- footballs. if a car goes in it, it's going to. i gti; it's going to. this was huge. very dangerous. and he got so sick dark of sick of it. and the dark of night, he or she was night, whoever he or she was went and it in with went along and filled it in with concrete. the road concrete. and now the road is open. of they're in open. and, of course, they're in trouble because they've done. yeah, closed yeah. yeah, it's closed now. yeah. they then they closed they opened it then they closed tt. — they opened it then they closed t. —t— they opened it then they closed t. —t to. - they opened it then they closed t. —t to. t- they opened it then they closed tt. _.u.,.u.- it. the thing is i do, i do really love that energy. i love the that british the energy that that british people it upon people are taking it upon themselves go. we're fixing themselves to go. we're fixing this thing, with it this thing, fed up with it because they fed up. we've because they are fed up. we've got we have a story got potholes. we have a story very— got potholes. we have a story wery reeehtty— got potholes. we have a story very recently of— gtit we have a story very recently of stewart very recently of rod stewart ttttthe— filling in one very near his houee— filling in one very near his houee-o— filling in one very near his house a neighbour. good old house with a neighbour. good old rod house with a neighbour. good old hot stewort— house with a neighbour. good old hot stewort-o— house with a neighbour. good old rod stewart a private rod stewart was it a private root.— rod stewart was it a private root—uoh-ti rod stewart was it a private- road,_don't think road, though? no, i don't think it was. no. i think it was a country lane in their area. and maybe you know, nobody maybe you know, i guess nobody was in state was investing in it. the state of our roads at the moment, it is just treacherous . far be it is just treacherous. far be it from me to anything defend from me to do anything defend cycling. a big fan of cycling, but i feel for them . yeah but if you i feel for them. yeah i do. one road in our i really do. one road in our area in west london actually had

so potholes and so many potholes in it and somebody went around with a spray and basically sprayed spray can and basically sprayed each with with a penis each pothole with with a penis around each one. oh my god. so the road was just covered in spray paint penises. so the council had no choice but to go and fill in the potholes. well, that's clever. couldn't- that's clever. couldn't encourage that at home, otwtouety. — encourage that at home, obviously. t g just obviously. right. just to say eorhehoty— obviously. right. just to say. eorhehoty—we somebody who drives a car. we otreoty— somebody who drives a car. we otreoty ore— somebody who drives a car. we already are struggling to pay for already are struggling to pay tor etutt— already are struggling to pay for stuff. these— already are struggling to pay for stuff. these potholes tomogee— for stuff. these potholes damages wheels and our damages our wheels and our ottoye— damages our wheels and our ottoye. we— damages our wheels and our alloys. we end— damages our wheels and our alloys. we end up spending more money— alloys. we end up spending more money oh— alloys. we end up spending more money on our tires,— alloys. we end up spending more money on our tires, which is expected— money on our tires, which is expected . — money on our tires, which is expected . t— money on our tires, which is expected . i know,- money on our tires, which is expected. money on our tires, which is expected . money on our tires, which is- expected . i know, but maybe the expected. i know, but maybe the answer is we put little tax on answer is we put a little tax on cyclists . oh, god. they would. cyclists. oh, god. they would. they would. they would oteotutety— they would. they would absolutely they absolutely love. oh, they woutth-t— absolutely love. oh, theyi wouldn't—don't absolutely love. oh, they- wouldn't_don't like wouldn't like that. don't like that.— wouldn't like that. don't like that. wett— wouldn't like that. don't like that. well, have— wouldn't like that. don't like that. well, have you- wouldn't like that. jtit" . l well, have you heard what that. well, have you heard what corhwott— that. well, have you heard what cornwall highways— well, have you heard what cornwall highways have no. well, have you heard what coron. ll highways have no. well, have you heard what coron. ll higthey'velave no. well, have you heard what coron. ll higthey've shut no. well, have you heard what coron. ll higthey've shut it no. go on. well they've shut it heeouee— go on. well they've shut it because unquote go on. well they've shut it because-unquote the because quote unquote until the job because quote unquote until the top te— because quote unquote until the top te tore— because quote unquote until the job is done properly. oh and opporehtty— job is done properly. oh and apparently they've already said it's apparently they've already said he been— apparently they've already said it's been closed— apparently they've already said it's been closed since for the whore— it's been closed since for the whote ot— it's been closed since for the whole of-already- it's been closed since for the whole of already . whole of april already. apparently/r— whole of april already. apparently, it's going to be at teoet— apparently, it's going to be at teoet-weehe— apparently, it's going to be at least weeks before is least a few weeks before it is tone— least a few weeks before it is hope property— least a few weeks before it is done properly they won't done properly because they won't do it properly, which drives me mot. — do it properly, which drives me mot. ipuh— do it properly, which drives me mad. .pun intended. - do it properly, which drives me- mad. .pun intended. everybody mad. no pun intended. everybody rhet— mad. no pun intended. everybody mote — mad. no pun intended. everybody mad ? no offence, no offence. mad? no offence, no offence. but, you know, when people could

actually online google actually go online and google the see how much the council to see how much money put towards the royal money they put towards the royal family's coronation coronation, those were significantly those numbers were significantly higher. and then what i question is, could they have not set is, could they have just not set some aside and just fixed the potholes and sort the roads out a little bit have a street a little bit and have a street party? there weren't any on the moth — party? there weren't any on the moth there— party? there weren't any on the mall. there weren't— :tritxt7’ there weren't any on the mall. there weren't any on the :tritxt7’ there weren't any on the mall. right weren't any on the :tritxt7’ there weren't any on the mall. right thank�*t any on the :tritxt7’ there weren't any on the mall. right thank you,f on the :zrj’ there weren't any on the mall. right thank you, guys. 1e jf�*xr?’ there weren't any on the mall. gould, hank you, guys. le jf�*xr?’ there weren't any on the mall. gould, bushra»u, guys. le jf�*xr?’ there weren't any on the mall. gould, bushra sheikh. le jf�*xr?’ there weren't any on the mall. gould, bushra sheikh. now, jonny gould, bushra sheikh. now, still to— jonny gould, bushra sheikh. now, stiu to-home- still to come, the home secretary— still to come, the home secretary-is- still to come, the home secretary is not secretary says it is not xenophobic— secretary says it is not xenophobic to call mass migration— xenophobic to call mass migration unsustainable . do migration unsustainable. do you agree?— migration unsustainable. do you agree-is— migration unsustainable. do you agree-filme— migration unsustainable. do you agree?-is.the-onl agree? this is to the point on britain-s— agree.7 this is to the point on britain's news— agree.7 this is to the point on britain's news channel, agree? this is to the point on britain's news channel, alex beak...— britain's news channel, alex oeakin here— britain's news channel, alex deakin here with your latest weather— deakin here with your latest weather- met - deakin here with your latest weather met office for weather from the met office for gb news. — weather from the met office for gb news. a— weather from the met office for gb news. afine_ weather from the met office for gb news. ' �*" :ng weather from the met office for gb news. ' �*" rg :ar weather from the met office for gb news. ' �*" g: gb news. a fine bright day for most today sunny spells, most today with sunny spells, but particularly warm but it's not particularly warm out and there are a few out there and there are a few heavy around across heavy showers around across parts scotland and eastern parts of scotland and eastern england. have this weather england. we have this weather front country front moving across the country last night. high pressure is toppling in behind, bringing plenty of fine weather certainly to the west. but as i said, there— to the west. but as i said, there ee— to the west. but as i said, there e— to the west. but as i said, there are a few— but as i said, there are a few showers around . there are a few showers around. weve— there are a few showers around. we've seen some across- there are a few showers around. we've seen some across scotland and few breaking now and a few more breaking out now across of eastern england. across parts of eastern england. could be or 2 heavy ones ,

could be i or 2 heavy ones, possibly even a rumble of thunder . but possibly even a rumble of thunder. but much of wales, the midlands, south west england, northern ireland and the west coast scotland staying dry northern ireland and the west coasbright.)tland staying dry northern ireland and the west coasbright.)tlan even/ing dry northern ireland and the west coasbright.)tlan even ing dry northern ireland and the west coasbright. )tlan even in they and bright. and even in the east, could easily dodge the east, you could easily dodge the showers bit of showers and have a bit of sunshine. it's not warm. we sunshine. but it's not warm. we might to 19 degrees, might squeak up to 19 degrees, but generally temperatures only in the mid teens and feeling cooler when the showers come along. and they'll still be a few showers this few of those showers around this evening of north—east evening over parts of north—east england especially. but they do fade midnight and then fade away by midnight and then most places become dry and clear before more cloud spills into northern scotland later on. quite a chilly night, actually . quite a chilly night, actually. temperatures well down into single . so pockets of single figures. so pockets of frost can't completely ruled frost can't be completely ruled out parts of out in some sheltered parts of the countryside. so a fresh start to tuesday for sure, but generally a fine day for england and wales. cloud coming into northern scotland. it's quite a grey here with patchy grey day here with some patchy rain trickling towards the rain trickling down towards the central and southern central belt and southern scotland on, clouding over scotland later on, clouding over a touch in northern ireland. but the far north may actually brighten the winds coming brighten up the winds coming down north. so still down from the north. so still a

bit a chilly feel. bit of a chilly feel. temperatures generally temperatures again, generally around a touch below average, around or a touch below average, highest, probably in the south, 18 or 19 celsius. it stays fine across the south during tuesday evening, 1 or 2 showers still across southern scotland and northern england at this stage. but pressure saw but the high pressure we saw earlier generally in control earlier is generally in control through this week. so through much of this week. so bar shower here and bar the odd shower here and there much week will be there, much of the week will be dry and bright and slowly it will start to feel just a little bit warmer as well.

it's 11 a.m. on monday, the 15th of may. this is to the point on gb news with bev turner and andrew pierce. you're the new churchm— andrew pierce. you're the new churchill. well,— andrew pierce. you're the new churchill. well, that's- ' z 57�* mac; you're the new churchill. well, that's what we — churchill. well, that's what rishi sunak— churchill. well, that's what rishi sunak says to the ukrainian— rishi sunak says to the ukrainian president. zelenskyy as he— ukrainian president. zelenskyy as he deepe— ukrainian president. zelenskyy as he drops him— ukrainian president. zelenskyy as he drops him by helicopter to chequere— as he drops him by helicopter to chequere .— as he drops him by helicopter to chequers . they're— as he drops him by helicopter to chequers . they're talking about chequers. they're talking about mere-support- chequers. they're talking about more-support that- chequers. they're talking about more support that will more military support that will be paid— more military support that will be paid fer,— more military support that will be babe be, eb— more military support that will be paid for, of course , by the be paid for, of course, by the bexbeyeb — be paid for, of course, by the bexbeyeb beb— be paid for, of course, by the taxpayer. you you're happy about that— taxpayer. you you're happy about bbeb emeu— taxpayer. you you're happy about be seen e — taxpayer. you you're happy about that smell .7 " z?" that smell? braverman takes on the prime minister with a call

to cut legal migration in a major speech later this morning. and with net migration expected to be over half a million this year. to be over half a million this year . are you on board with year. are you on board with that? it's supposed to be cut to tens of thousands, actually . tens of thousands, actually. and do we need to have more bebbeee— and do we need to have more babies? that's— and do we need to have more babies? that's the— and do we need to have more babies? that's the view of a bery— babies? that's the view of a tory mb— babies? that's the view of a bow mb wbe— babies? that's the view of a tory mp who says falling birth babes— tory mp who says falling birth rates be— tory mp who says falling birth rates be be— tory mp who says falling birth rates is the biggest threat to eeebeby. — rates is the biggest threat to eeebeby. be — rates is the biggest threat to eeebeby. be you— rates is the biggest threat to society. do you agree with . society. do you agree with. her let society. do you agree with. her beb us— society. do you agree with. her beb us know— society. do you agree with. her let us know your— society. do you agree with. her let us know your thoughts- society. do you agree with. her let us know your thoughts on all of those issues today that we're talking about. vaiews@gbnews.uk is the email address as always. but first of all, here's your latest with tamsin roberts latest news with tamsin roberts . thanks very much and good membe— . thanks very much and good membbg from — . thanks very much and good morning from the— thanks very much and good morning from the gb newsroom. it's morning from the gb newsroom. b-e beb— morning from the gb newsroom. b-e bbbb. beb— morning from the gb newsroom. it's 11:01. you crane's it's11:o1. you crane's president,- it's11:o1. you crane's president, zelenskyy is meeting the president, zelenskyy is meeting be enme— president, zelenskyy is meeting the prime minister today in a eurbbee— the prime minister today in a surprise visit— the prime minister today in a surprise visit to— the prime minister today in a surprise visit to the uk , the surprise visit to the uk, the ukrebbbeb— surprise visit to the uk, the ukrainian president joined rishi sbbeb— ukrainian president joined rishi

we be— ukrainian president joined rishi sunak at chequers. the prime mbbbeber-e— sunak at chequers. the prime minister's country retreat for what— minister's country retreat for wbeb bee— minister's country retreat for what he's calling substantive begebebebe— what he's calling substantive negotiations over military aid . negotiations over military aid. the— negotiations over military aid. bbe meebbe— negotiations over military aid. the meeting comes as the uk's bbeeee— the meeting comes as the uk's bbeege be— the meeting comes as the uk's bbeege be eene— the meeting comes as the uk's pledge to send hundreds of new bebg—rebee— pledge to send hundreds of new long—range attack— pledge to send hundreds of new long—range attack drones to beame— long—range attack drones to ubrebbe. b-e— long—range attack drones to ukraine. it's the _ long—range attack drones to ukraine. it's the latest stop on be— ukraine. it's the latest stop on the president's— ukraine. it's the latest stop on the president's european tour to gene— the president's european tour to garner increased— the president's european tour to garner increased support from ebbee— garner increased support from ebbee ee— garner increased support from ebbee ee kyiv— garner increased support from allies as kyiv prepares for its counteroffensive _ allies as kyiv prepares for its counteroffensive against russian beeee— counteroffensive against russian feeee .— counteroffensive against russian feeee . bbe— counteroffensive against russian forces . the home— counteroffensive against russian forces . the home secretary will forces. the home secretary will urge— forces. the home secretary will urge ebe— forces. the home secretary will urge the government to stick to its manifesto— urge the government to stick to its manifesto pledge of reducing everebb— its manifesto pledge of reducing overall migration— its manifesto pledge of reducing overall migration .— its manifesto pledge of reducing overall migration . in a speech overall migration. in a speech at overall migration. in a speech e be— overall migration. in a speech at the national— overall migration. in a speech at the national concert and conference later, suella braverman will argue the uk ebebbe— braverman will argue the uk should train— braverman will argue the uk should train its— braverman will argue the uk should train its own workforce of should train its own workforce eb berg— should train its own workforce of lorry drivers— should train its own workforce of lorry drivers and fruit bbebere— of lorry drivers and fruit pickers and— of lorry drivers and fruit pickers and be less dependent on low pickers and be less dependent on bew embed— pickers and be less dependent on low skilled foreign— pickers and be less dependent on low skilled foreign labour. bbeb-e— low skilled foreign labour. that's ahead— low skilled foreign labour. that's ahead of official figures rebeeeee— that's ahead of official figures released later— that's ahead of official figures released later this month, which are released later this month, which expected— released later this month, which are expected to— released later this month, which are expected to show net mbgrebeb— are expected to show net migration at— are expected to show net migration at a- are expected to show net migration at a record high of between— migration at a record high of between 650,000 and 1 million beepe— between 650,000 and 1 million beebbe. webb— between 650,000 and 1 million people. well, former cabinet mbbbeber— people. well, former cabinet minister jacob— people. well, former cabinet ministerjacob rees—mogg people. well, former cabinet minister jacob rees—mogg told people. well, former cabinet ministerjacob rees—mogg told us the ministerjacob rees—mogg told us be be—

ministerjacob rees—mogg told us be be neees— ministerjacob rees—mogg told us the uk needs more— ministerjacob rees—mogg told us the uk needs more automation to be ee— the uk needs more automation to be more productive— the uk needs more automation to be more productive kyiv by rebybbg— be more productive kyiv by rebybeg eb— be more productive kyiv by relying on low— be more productive kyiv by relying on low skilled migration bbe— relying on low skilled migration the bee— relying on low skilled migration over the last 30— relying on low skilled migration over the last 30 years, we have very— over the last 30 years, we have very bew— over the last 30 years, we have seen very low increases in breebebvby— seen very low increases in breebebvbg. — seen very low increases in productivity . ' 2 seen very low increases in productivity. 2 seen very low increases in productivity . ' 2 productivity. and part of the reason for that , i wouldn't say reason for that, i wouldn't say the whole reason, but part of the whole reason, but part of the reason for that is we haven't mechanised as we should haven't mechanised as we should have done so fruit picking remains an extremely labour intensive and not all intensive operation and not all fruits can be picked mechanically, but some can. and why haven't we been investing in the machinery which can then be operated covid by higher skilled , better paid people? so it's about increasing productivity so that you can increase wages . that you can increase wages. also at the conference, miriam cates has warned the falling birth rate in the uk poses the biggest threat to british conservatism and western society in the 1960s, british women had an average of 2.6 children. it's now less than 1.6. the mp for penistone_ it's now less than 1.6. the mp for penistone and— it's now less than 1.6. the mp for penistone and stocksbridge bege— for penistone and stocksbridge eeye ebere-bb— for penistone and stocksbridge says there'll be _ for penistone and stocksbridge

says there'll be no future if we een-e— says there'll be no future if we een-r reverbe— says there'll be no future if we don't reverse this— says there'll be no future if we don't reverse this trend even wbrbebr— don't reverse this trend even without further— don't reverse this trend even without further fall in just two gerrererberre. — without further fall in just two generations. time,- without further fall in just two generations. s22; without further fall in just two generations. 322; 2c without further fall in just two generations. 322; 22 generations. time, there will be 40% fewer births than there are today. that is popular collapse. you cannot be socially liberal and economically conservative if you think that government and society should have nothing to say about the conditions that promote strong families , do not promote strong families, do not be surprised when you end up with a high tax , high spend with a high tax, high spend economy with a nation of broken people dependent on the state. turkey's presidential election appears to be heading for a run off, with the two candidates unlikely to clear the 50% threshold needed to avoid a second round. with almost all of the second round. with almost all of be bebber— second round. with almost all of the ballot boxes— f 2 2 with almost all of the ballot boxes counted , the ballot boxes counted, rreebeerrr— the ballot boxes counted, president erdogan led with 49% of president erdogan led with 49% er reree— president erdogan led with 49% er veree erre— president erdogan led with 49% of votes and his— president erdogan led with 49% of votes and his rival, kemal kilicdaroglu,— of votes and his rival, kemal kilicdaroglu, had 44. if both eerebeeree— kilicdaroglu, had 44. if both candidates don't pass the rbreebebe— candidates don't pass the threshold ,— candidates don't pass the threshold , there'll be a second threshold, there'll be a second regre— threshold, there'll be a second rebre er— threshold, there'll be a second rebre er rbe— threshold, there'll be a second round of the 28th— threshold, there'll be a second round of the 28th of may. regrebbbrsr— round of the 28th of may. journalist ali mustafa told us

he journalist ali mustafa told us be rbbrbe— journalist ali mustafa told us he thinks erdogan has no rival brberber. — he thinks erdogan has no rival inflation. this— he thinks erdogan has no rival inflation. this run- he thinks erdogan has no rival inflation. " " inflation. this run away inflation. this run away inflation 174. unofficially earthquake, which has killed more than 50,000 people, destroyed a huge chunk of this country the size of parts of britain. some would argue didn't really matter because it came down to culture wars . and when down to culture wars. and when kemal kilicdaroglu, the opposition candidate , made an opposition candidate, made an informal alliance with the hdp, the pro—kurdish hdp , it became a the pro—kurdish hdp, it became a question of security versus terrorism . a ballot on terrorism. a ballot on industrial— terrorism. a ballot on industrial action- a ballot on industrial action by senior eeerere— industrial action by senior eeerere br— industrial action by senior doctors in england opens today. be— doctors in england opens today. be brbrbeb— doctors in england opens today. the british medical association bege— the british medical association eeyerebbe— the british medical association says talks with— the british medical association says talks with the government to says talks with the government re ery— says talks with the government be by ere — says talks with the government to try and resolve— says talks with the government to try and resolve the long rbrrbrg— to try and resolve the long rbrrrrg bey— to try and resolve the long running pay dispute remain deadlocked— running pay dispute remain deadlocked .— running pay dispute remain deadlocked . the union claims the deadlocked. the union claims the eeege— deadlocked. the union claims the average doctor's— deadlocked. the union claims the average doctor's salary has erebbee— average doctor's salary has degree by— average doctor's salary has dropped by 35%— average doctor's salary has dropped by 35% over the past eeeeee— dropped by 35% over the past decade before _ dropped by 35% over the past decade before inflation is considered _ decade before inflation is considered .— decade before inflation is considered . the health considered. the health department— considered. the health department says consultants were gbrer— department says consultants were gbrer e— department says consultants were grrer e ..5%_ department says consultants were grrer e 4.5% bey— department says consultants were given a 4.5% pay rise last year erre—

given a 4.5% pay rise last year ere be— given a 4.5% pay rise last year end be brgbrg— given a 4.5% pay rise last year and is urging them to carefully eerebeer— and is urging them to carefully eerebeer rbe— and is urging them to carefully consider the effect of further errbbee— consider the effect of further errbbee err — consider the effect of further strikes on patient use. the bebbeb— strikes on patient use. the ballot will— strikes on patient use. the ballot will close at the end of gene. — ballot will close at the end of june. meanwhile,— ballot will close at the end of june. meanwhile, two teacher beve— june. meanwhile, two teacher unions have opened new ballots on unions have opened new ballots err rubber— unions have opened new ballots on further strike— unions have opened new ballots on further strike action. it's errer— on further strike action. it's after members— on further strike action. it's after members of the national aeeeebebberr— after members of the national association of— after members of the national association of head teachers and the association of head teachers and be berbereb— association of head teachers and the national education union reg-eereg— the national education union reg-eereg rbe — the national education union rejected the latest pay offer bem— rejected the latest pay offer brem bbe— rejected the latest pay offer from the government. voting will ebeee— from the government. voting will ebeee er— from the government. voting will ebeee er rbe— from the government. voting will close at the end— from the government. voting will close at the end of— from the government. voting will close at the end of july with bererrrbeb— close at the end of july with potential strike— close at the end of july with potential strike action to take bbeee— potential strike action to take bbeee br— potential strike action to take bbeee be be— potential strike action to take place in the autumn term . the place in the autumn term. the royal— place in the autumn term. the beyeb cebbege— place in the autumn term. the royal college of— place in the autumn term. the royal college of nursing has reveebee— royal college of nursing has revealed nurses— royal college of nursing has revealed nurses fear being taken to revealed nurses fear being taken be eebrb— revealed nurses fear being taken be eebrb eve— revealed nurses fear being taken to court over the— revealed nurses fear being taken to court over the level of care rbev— to court over the level of care be gbve — to court over the level of care bbev gbve be — to court over the level of care they give to patients . the union they give to patients. the union eeve— they give to patients. the union eeve bber— they give to patients. the union says more than nine out of ten rebeee— says more than nine out of ten nurses raised concerns that bebberrbe— nurses raised concerns that bebberrbe reev— nurses raised concerns that patients may be- nurses raised concerns that patients may be receiving unsafe eue— patients may be receiving unsafe be be— patients may be receiving unsafe care due to their— patients may be receiving unsafe care due to their working conditions— care due to their working conditions ,— care due to their working conditions , as- care due to their working conditions , as some nurses have conditions, as some nurses have eeeerbbee— conditions, as some nurses have eeeerbbee ,— conditions, as some nurses have described , feeling— conditions, as some nurses have described , feeling suicidal as described, feeling suicidal as bbev— described, feeling suicidal as bbev eeem — described, feeling suicidal as they deem corridor treatment eegreebrg— they deem corridor treatment eegreebrgrer— they deem corridor treatment degrading for patient. it's this is degrading for patient. it's this be eb— degrading for patient. it's this be be beve— degrading for patient. it's this is gb news more— degrading for patient. it's this is gb news more from me shortly. now:— is gb news more from me shortly. nev, bbeegb— is gb news more from me shortly. nev, bbebgb, bb-e— is gb news more from me shortly. now, though, it's back to andrew and now, though, it's back to andrew

ere .— and.bev se- and.bev so rishi sunak erre- bev- so rishi sunak has erre- bev— so rishi sunak has paid the bbbbmebe— so rishi sunak has paid the ultimate compliment to vladimir zelenskwv— ultimate compliment to vladimir zelenskyy, calling— ultimate compliment to vladimir zelenskyy, calling him the new vvbrreber— zelenskyy, calling him the new winston churchill. �*vvb�*fiil 22 winston churchill. what do you mere— winston churchill. what do you make of that ? as the ukrainian make of that? as the ukrainian president arrived in the uk for a surprise visit there discussing , of course, the war discussing, of course, the war at pm's country residence, at the pm's country residence, chequers, and of course we know there's going to be commitment there's going to be a commitment from the prime minister to more military us military aid. well, joining us now this is our now for more on this is our political editor darren mccaffrey. that's quite a compliment. it is. it is. and beebbe— compliment. it is. it is. and some people might- 22 it is. it is. and some people might feel a 2 it is. it is. and some people might feel a little uncomfortable— some people might feel a little uncomfortable with it. other beebbe— uncomfortable with it. other beebbe-egree— uncomfortable with it. other. people - agree -fact people will agree with the fact bbeb— people will agree with the fact bbeb bbbe— people will agree with the fact bbeb bbbe be— people will agree with the fact that this is a— people will agree with the fact that this is a wartime leader vbe— that this is a wartime leader vbe be— that this is a wartime leader vbe be be— that this is a wartime leader who is in charge— that this is a wartime leader who is in charge of a country beebrrg— who is in charge of a country beebrrg err— who is in charge of a country reebrrg vee— who is in charge of a country facing an, you know, the almost an existential— facing an, you know, the almost an existential threat, if you bbbe— an existential threat, if you bbbe .— an existential threat, if you bbbe . bree— an existential threat, if you like. erg and— an existential threat, if you like . erg and others would look like. erg and others would look at like. erg and others would look eb bbbe— like. erg and others would look eb bbbe ee— like. erg and others would look eb bbbe ee bbe— like. erg and others would look at this as the biggest battle we've seen in— at this as the biggest battle we've seen in europe since the erre— we've seen in europe since the egg eb— we've seen in europe since the egg eb bbe— we've seen in europe since the end of the second— we've seen in europe since the end of the second world war. but be be— end of the second world war. but be be re— end of the second world war. but be be be eebbb— end of the second world war. but be in no doubt what rishi sunak is be in no doubt what rishi sunak be brvbrrg— be in no doubt what rishi sunak be brvbrrg be— be in no doubt what rishi sunak be brvbrrg be be— be in no doubt what rishi sunak is trying to do today. and you beek— is trying to do today. and you beer eb— is trying to do today. and you look at their— is trying to do today. and you look at their social media vbeeee— look at their social media videos online— look at their social media videos online of the chinook bebbeebber—

videos online of the chinook helicopter-at- videos online of the chinook helicopter at chequers . helicopter landing at chequers. bee— helicopter landing at chequers. be-e-berebgr- helicopter landing at chequers. he's foreign leader to he's the first foreign leader to go he's the first foreign leader to ge—bbeee- he's the first foreign leader to| go_these pictures go to chequers. these pictures eembrrg— go to chequers. these pictures eembrrg br— go to chequers. these pictures eerrbrrg be bbbe— go to chequers. these pictures coming in this morning. as veg-bb— coming in this morning. as veg-u eee— coming in this morning. as you'll see, though, not from bem— you'll see, though, not from brem eer— you'll see, though, not from from our lot— you'll see, though, not from from our lot as— you'll see, though, not from from our lot as in the broadcast beebb— from our lot as in the broadcast beebb, bbb— from our lot as in the broadcast booth, but rather— from our lot as in the broadcast booth, but rather from these bbbrrge— booth, but rather from these bbbrge bebrg— booth, but rather from these things being filmed as part of the things being filmed as part of bbe bevrbrg— things being filmed as part of the downing street operation or breebeerrb— the downing street operation or president zelenskyy his eeerebbere— president zelenskyy his operation. it— president zelenskyy his operation. it is from rishi server-e— operation. it is from rishi sunak's point— operation. it is from rishi sunak's point of view, trying to ebev— sunak's point of view, trying to ebev-bbeb— sunak's point of view, trying to show-that-uk- sunak's point of view, trying to show-that-uk is- sunak's point of view, trying to show that uk is wholly show you that the uk is wholly eemmbbbee— show you that the uk is wholly committed to— show you that the uk is wholly committed to ukraine, that he vbbb— committed to ukraine, that he will-shoulder- committed to ukraine, that he will-shoulder to- committed to ukraine, that he will shoulder to shoulder will stand shoulder to shoulder vbbb— will stand shoulder to shoulder with -zelenskyy - will stand shoulder to shoulder with-zelenskyy in- with president zelenskyy in essence also _ with president zelenskyy in essence also because he knows bbeb-e— essence also because he knows bbeb-e vbere— essence also because he knows that's where the— essence also because he knows that's where the majority of the cereervebbve— that's where the majority of the conservative party— that's where the majority of the conservative party are right arre— conservative party are right now. and that's— conservative party are right now. and that's what they would evbeeb— now. and that's what they would evbeeb .— now. and that's what they would evbeeb . ae— now. and that's what they would evbeeb . be ber— now. and that's what they would expect . as for president expect. as for president zeberrebvv, — expect. as for president zelenskyy, he's been on another eberm—bbrebel charm offensive around europe ever-cerebe- charm offensive around europe ever-eebbbe eb- charm offensive around europe over couple of days, over the last couple of days, vbebber— over the last couple of days, whether germany, the whether it's been germany, the vebbeerr,— whether it's been germany, the bbeb—rev- whether it's been germany, the vatican, _ now the i whether it's been germany, the vatican, now the uk whether it's been germany, the. vatican,_now the uk , vatican, france and now the uk, vbeb— vatican, france and now the uk, vbeb be— vatican, france and now the uk, what he needs,— vatican, france and now the uk, what he needs, what he wants , what he needs, what he wants, brebrbrbebrrgbv,— what he needs, what he wants, unsurprisingly, is— what he needs, what he wants, unsurprisingly, is more weapons. arre— unsurprisingly, is more weapons. are bb— unsurprisingly, is more weapons. are bb eee— unsurprisingly, is more weapons. and it seems like— unsurprisingly, is more weapons. and it seems like britain's going— and it seems like britain's gebrg be— and it seems like britain's gebrg be gbve— and it seems like britain's going to give him some. ' 2 going to give him some. and it's not going to give him some. and it's berg-beb— going to give him some. and it's berg-ebb bbe— going to give him some. and it's not just the tory party that's behind this. the whole of parliament behind darren. parliament is behind it. darren. yeah i mean there's very few. the off, but not the odd noises off, but not there's very mean from there's very few. i mean from bbe— there's very few. i mean from bbe sbbe — there's very few. i mean from bbe sbbe b— there's very few. i mean from the snp, i mean— there's very few. i mean from the snp, i mean it's- s222 23 i mean from the snp, i mean it's not often you— the snp, i mean it's not often

veg geb— the snp, i mean it's not often veg geb bbe— the snp, i mean it's not often veg geb bbe ebb,— the snp, i mean it's not often you get the snp, labour, the lib beme— you get the snp, labour, the lib beme-sbb— you get the snp, labour, the lib beme-sba-er- you get the snp, labour, the lib dems sda or frankly on dems and sda party or frankly on the dems and sda party or frankly on bbe-bege.— dems and sda party or frankly on bbe-bege.-b- dems and sda party or frankly on bbe-bege.-b vee- dems and sda party or frankly on the-page.-i was in. the same page. i mean i was in vveebmbreber— the same page. i mean i was in westminster hall— the same page. i mean i was in westminster hall back in bebrgerv— westminster hall back in february president xi february when president xi zebegebvv— february when president xi- zelenskyy—there february when president xi- zelenskyy_there . zelenskyy addressed mps there. and veg— zelenskyy addressed mps there. and veg brew,— zelenskyy addressed mps there. and you know, it's— zelenskyy addressed mps there. and you know, it's fair to say bbeb— and you know, it's fair to say bbeb-ebmeeb- and you know, it's fair to say that-almost a- that there was almost a bebbebbe,— that there was almost a palpable, palpable sense of anticipation,— palpable, palpable sense of anticipation, almost excitement ebegb— anticipation, almost excitement ebegb bbbe— anticipation, almost excitement ebegb bbbe ggv. — anticipation, almost excitement about this guy. and i think bbeb-e— about this guy. and i think bbeb-e vbv— about this guy. and i think that's why rishi sunak used that ebebm— that's why rishi sunak used that ebebm beeev— that's why rishi sunak used that claim today about— that's why rishi sunak used that claim today about winston cbgrebbbb— claim today about winston churchill, a— claim today about winston churchill, a great communicator , churchill, a great communicator evenn— churchill, a great communicator ,verv, veg— churchill, a great communicator ,verv, veg eegbe— churchill, a great communicator , very, you could expect from a bebrger— , very, you could expect from a fewer-.— , very, you could expect from a former-. well,— , very, you could expect from a former . well, indeed. and former actor. well, indeed. and in former actor. well, indeed. and be merv— former actor. well, indeed. and be eeeev veve— former actor. well, indeed. and be eeeev veve, veg— former actor. well, indeed. and in many ways, you know, you see bbeb— in many ways, you know, you see bbeb ebeg— in many ways, you know, you see that often, don't— in many ways, you know, you see that often, don't you? with with veere— that often, don't you? with with world leaders— that often, don't you? with with world leaders sometimes, you knew,— world leaders sometimes, you knew, beeebe— world leaders sometimes, you know, ronald reagan and, you knew,— know, ronald reagan and, you know, obviously— know, ronald reagan and, you know, obviously tony blair, vve-veb— know, obviously tony blair, who've come— know, obviously tony blair, who've come from the field , who've come from the field, beeebe— who've come from the field, donald trump,— who've come from the field, donald trump, another good evergree— donald trump, another good example, whatever you think ebegb— example, whatever you think ebegb-regene- example, whatever you think about trump, there's about donald trump, there's geeegbbeebv— undoubtedly he is a great communicator— undoubtedly he is a great communicator because he's he's a bee— communicator because he's he's a bed eb— communicator because he's he's a bed eb beeeeee— communicator because he's he's a kind of former tv— communicator because he's he's a kind of former tv star, seb beeke— kind of former tv star, seb eeebe be— kind of former tv star, seb gorka he knows- kind of former tv star, seb gorka he knows how, as we've bbeb— gorka he knows how, as we've bgeb eee— gorka he knows how, as we've bgeb beeee — gorka he knows how, as we've just seen from these pictures eee— just seen from these pictures eee ve— just seen from these pictures eee ve bb— just seen from these pictures and we see it all— just seen from these pictures and we see it all the time, breebeeeb— and we see it all the time, president zelenskyy knows how the president zelenskyy knows how bbe eeege— president zelenskyy knows how the media works— president zelenskyy knows how the media works and media and beebegeeee.— propaganda. let's be honest ebegb— propaganda. let's be honest about-vital— propaganda. let's be honest about-vitallany- propaganda. let's be honest about vital any war, about it, is vital in any war, ebeebgbebv— about it, is vital in any war, absolutely vital. _ about it, is vital in any war, absolutely vital. this is all ebebeeebbeg— absolutely vital. this is all distracting of— absolutely vital. this is all distracting of course. got distracting of course. we've got in distracting of course. we've got be-ebgebe— distracting of course. we've got in studio with us, peter in the studio with us, peter barnes, political commentator

from this conference that's taking suella taking place today, where suella braverman is going to lecture the minister the prime minister about immigration. she's home immigration. she's the home secretary. of secretary. she's in charge of it. also where we're it. it's also where we're going to that david who to hear that david frost, who was boris johnson's brexit was the boris johnson's brexit adviser who effectively got brexit done , he's announcing brexit done, he's announcing he's going he is going to be he's going to he is going to be a candidate in found a seat yet to be an mp at the next general election. yeah that generally doesn't surprise me. it's been no secret around— 2 l it's been no secret around westminster bbeb— no secret around westminster bbeb-beeeb— no secret around westminster that-frost has- no secret around westminster that frost has been kind of that lord frost has been kind of begbbeg— that lord frost has been kind of begbbeg bbe— that lord frost has been kind of begbbeg bbe vev— that lord frost has been kind of touting his way of— that lord frost has been kind of touting his way of the candidates— touting his way of the candidates there's candidates list. there's a rumour around, candidates list. there's a- rumour-around, according rumour going around, according to rumour going around, according be—bbeb- rumour going around, accordingi be—bbebleebgbb to some websites, that he might beve—bebrger- to some websites, that he might take—bridgen seat,l take on. andrew bridgen seat, beb— take on. andrew bridgen seat, bgb bee— take on. andrew bridgen seat, bgb bee bbeb— take on. andrew bridgen seat, but for that one— take on. andrew bridgen seat, but for that one we're just veeb— but for that one we're just veeb-e— but for that one we're just yeahr-a guy- but for that one we're just yeah, a guy just but for that one we're just- yeah,-a guy-just was he yeah, he's a guy who just was he bbebee— yeah, he's a guy who just was he was kicked out— yeah, he's a guy who just was he was kicked out-the— yeah, he's a guy who just was he was kicked out the tory party was kicked out of the tory party eee— was kicked out of the tory party eee-gene— was kicked out of the tory party eee-gene be— was kicked out of the tory party eee-gene be be— was kicked out of the tory party and-gone to is it- was kicked out of the tory party and gone to is it reform or and he's gone to is it reform or eeebebee— and he's gone to is it reform or eeebebee-geee— and he's gone to is it reform or reclaim.-gone to- and he's gone to is it reform or reclaim. gone to reclaim reclaim. he's gone to reclaim eeebebee.— reclaim. he's gone to reclaim reclaim-there's- reclaim. yeah. so there's rumours around about reclaim. yeah. so there's rumouhe's around about reclaim. yeah. so there's rumouhe's going ound about reclaim. yeah. so there's rumouhe's going to 1d about reclaim. yeah. so there's rumouhe's going to go about reclaim. yeah. so there's rumouhe's going to go butit reclaim. yeah. so there's rumouhe's going to go but it's where he's going to go but it's no where he's going to go but it's be be— where he's going to go but it's be be vber— where he's going to go but it's no it's when it— where he's going to go but it's no it's when it comes to lord beeeb— no it's when it comes to lord bbeb-eb— no it's when it comes to lord bbeb-er bbe- no it's when it comes to lord frost,-of the worst. frost, it's one of the worst begb— frost, it's one of the worst bebb eeeebe— frost, it's one of the worst kept secrets really. it's one of bee— kept secrets really. it's one of bbeee bbbege— kept secrets really. it's one of those things everybody knows verv— those things everybody knows very interesting. “ ”22 very interesting. he hired a commercial public relations agency all of this, agency to handle all of this, which quite in the which is quite unusual in the political domain. it's getting it's political domain. it's getting bb-e—e.eeeeeee i political domain. it's getting. it's—common. .we it's getting more common. if we beek— it's getting more common. if we beer-begbbeg— it's getting more common. if we look nadhim zahawi, he hired look at nadhim zahawi, he hired

ain— look at nadhim zahawi, he hired e-bb-ee— look at nadhim zahawi, he hired e-rb-ee verb— look at nadhim zahawi, he hired a-pr-as well when- look at nadhim zahawi, he hired a pr as well when he a big pr firm as well when he bebee— a big pr firm as well when he bebeelege— a big pr firm as well when he bebeelege be— a big pr firm as well when he tried-run to be— a big pr firm as well when he tried run to be tory leader tried to run to be tory leader eebbee— tried to run to be tory leader rather unsuccessfully. it's beeeeebeg— rather unsuccessfully. it's- becoming _that becoming more common that bebbbbebeee— becoming more common that. bebbbbebeee—be becoming more common that. bebbbebeee—be becoming more common that. polit of polish _to becoming more common that polit of polish up to becoming more common that polit of polish up their to becoming more common that polit of polish up their imageo kind of polish up their image eee— kind of polish up their image eee-mere— kind of polish up their image and-more times- kind of polish up their image and more times out of ten, and more more times out of ten, it's and more more times out of ten, bb-e eebgebbv— and more more times out of ten, it's actually-trying- it's actually about trying to ggbebee— it's actually about trying to quieten-some- it's actually about trying to quieten some the it's actually about trying to- quieten-somelthe more quieten down some of the more controversies they've been controversies that they've been bevebvee— controversies that they've been bevebvee be— controversies that they've been involved in because obviously bere— involved in because obviously beee reeeb— involved in because obviously lord frost being— lord frost being a big brexiteer,_ lord frost being a big brexiteer, be brexiteer, if he has to be eeeebgb— brexiteer, if he has to be careful-runs- brexiteer, if he has to be careful-runs in,| brexiteer, if he has to be. careful-runs in, i'm careful what he runs in, i'm gree— careful what he runs in, i'm gbee-gebeg— careful what he runs in, i'm glad-using his- careful what he runs in, i'm glad using his title glad we're using his title beee— glad we're using his titlei because-frost. glad we're using his title- because-frost. lords because he's lord frost. lords eee-b— because he's lord frost. lords eeeb-ber— because he's lord frost. lords can't-for election.- because he's lord frost. lords can't for election. yeah. so can't run for election. yeah. so he's going to have to give up his piers. so yeah, does he his piers. so yeah, but does he give up his peerage when gets give up his peerage when he gets a or now to show his a safe seat? or now to show his commitment who's who's commitment and who's who's probably the most famous person who's in the past? who's done that in the past? tony benn of course. course. tony benn of course. of course. tony— tony benn of course. of course. beev—beeg- tony benn of course. of course.| beev—beeg bbeee tony benn. i mean, a long time ege.— tony benn. i mean, a long time ege-lbeeg— tony benn. i mean, a long time ege. lbeeg bbeee— tony benn. i mean, a long time ago. long time ago. “g ago. a long time ago. talking of westminster olivia utley down westminster olivia utley is down there this good there for us this morning. good morning, erg olivia good morning, erg olivia good morning, beth. good morning. vbeb-e— morning, beth. good morning. what's happening— “g good morning. what's happening there what's happening down there this eeeeebege — what's happening down there this eeeeebege -vee— what's happening down there this eeeeebege -vee.— what's happening down there this morning? _yes , it- what's happening down there this morning? gilt? 2 morning? well, yes, it was a pretty dramatic start to the natcon conference here in westminster. we had a speech beee— westminster. we had a speech beeee reeeb— we had a speech from jacob rees—mogg. was the bbe— from jacob rees—mogg. was the bbe bbeee— from jacob rees—mogg. was the was the first, first— from jacob rees—mogg. was the was the first, first proper eeeeeee— was the first, first proper address where- was the first, first proper address where he was talking ebegb— address where he was talking about issues— address where he was talking about issues with immigration in

the about issues with immigration in bbe eegebev— about issues with immigration in bbe eegebev .— about issues with immigration in bbe eegebev . bbe— about issues with immigration in the country . the problems with the country. the problems with beebeebbeebeee— the country. the problems with protectionism in— the country. the problems with protectionism in the country. beb— protectionism in the country. bgb bb— protectionism in the country. bgb bb ee— protectionism in the country. but it was interrupted very dramatically— but it was interrupted very dramatically at— but it was interrupted very dramatically at the beginning by a dramatically at the beginning by e vbe— dramatically at the beginning by a man who came— dramatically at the beginning by a man who came on wanting to bebr— a man who came on wanting to bebb be— a man who came on wanting to bebb be ge— a man who came on wanting to bebb be ge ebb— a man who came on wanting to talk to us all about the dangers of talk to us all about the dangers eb beeebeee— talk to us all about the dangers of fascism. now,— talk to us all about the dangers of fascism. now, he was bustled off of fascism. now, he was bustled ebb bbe— of fascism. now, he was bustled ebb bbe ebege— of fascism. now, he was bustled off the stage very— of fascism. now, he was bustled off the stage very quickly. but eeebbv— off the stage very quickly. but reallvr b— off the stage very quickly. but really, i think— off the stage very quickly. but really, i think the— off the stage very quickly. but really, i think the woman of the eeeeeeeb— really, i think the woman of the moment-rising,— really, i think the woman of the moment.rising,.of- really, i think the woman of the moment rising, of the moment is rising, star of the conservative— conservative party, miriam cebee— conservative party, miriam cebee-ebe— conservative party, miriam cates,-did her- conservative party, miriam cates, did her her opening cates, who did her her opening ebeeeb— cates, who did her her opening ebeeeb bbbe— cates, who did her her opening speech this morning on what she beeeebvee— speech this morning on what she beeeebvee ee— speech this morning on what she perceives as the _ speech this morning on what she perceives as the biggest danger to perceives as the biggest danger be bebbebe— perceives as the biggest danger be bebbebe .— perceives as the biggest danger to britain . that— perceives as the biggest danger to britain . that is— perceives as the biggest danger to britain . that is bigger than to britain. that is bigger than bebbe— to britain. that is bigger than cbbee, bbggee— to britain. that is bigger than china, bigger than big tech, bbggee— china, bigger than big tech, bbggee bbee— china, bigger than big tech, bigger than iran. and that is bbe— bigger than iran. and that is bbe bebbbeg— bigger than iran. and that is the falling birth— bigger than iran. and that is the falling birth rate , the the falling birth rate, the egeeebe— the falling birth rate, the number women just not having number of women just not having bebbee— number of women just not having babies-actually- number of women just not having babies. actually here babies. and i'm actually here vbbb— babies. and i'm actually here vbbb bebbebe— babies. and i'm actually here with miriam cates in the hall bebev— with miriam cates in the hall beeev. bee— with miriam cates in the hall today. and miriam , that was today. and miriam, that was a eeebv— today. and miriam, that was a reallyv eeebv— today. and miriam, that was a really, really rousing speech . really, really rousing speech. bee—bee- really, really rousing speech. bee—bee bbe| and you definitely had the egebeeee— and you definitely had the audience-do- and you definitely had the audience do you and you definitely had the audience-do you you audience on side. do you do you eeebv— audience on side. do you do you eeebbv bebbeve— audience on side. do you do you really believe is— audience on side. do you do you really believe is it— audience on side. do you do you really believe is it not an exaggeration— really believe is it not an exaggeration say that the exaggeration to say that the bbebb — exaggeration to say that the bbebb—bbggeeb- exaggeration to say that the birth biggest issue birth rate is the biggest issue beebeg— birth rate is the biggest issue beebeg-vvebb- birth rate is the biggest issue facing well, think if facing britain? well, i think if we're concerned— facing britain? well, i think if we're concerned future we're concerned about our future beveee—ebeeb- we're concerned about our future. beyond—short term, beyond the immediate short term, 5 beyond the immediate short term, bbe— beyond the immediate short term, 5 be be— beyond the immediate short term, 5 be be vee— beyond the immediate short term, 5 to 10 years, then— beyond the immediate short term, 5 to 10 years, then it absolutely- 5 to 10 years, then it absolutely is. 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a worse position than us, like finland, i mentioned my finland, that i mentioned in my speech. but think the speech. but i think the temptation politicians often temptation for politicians often is to talk about the is only to talk about the economy and actually we need strong we need strong strong families. we need strong communities to communities. we need people to have children we want to have children if we want to build strong economy the build a strong economy in the future. i think sometimes future. and i think sometimes we're too afraid to talk about the family we're afraid the family because we're afraid of or afraid of of culture wars or afraid of feeling judgemental. of culture wars or afraid of feeling judgemental . but the feeling judgemental. but the point tried make is point that i tried to make is that state can't be neutral that the state can't be neutral on issues. either on these issues. we either favour having children and support children favour having children and su we rt children favour having children and su we rt and children favour having children and su we rt and i children favour having children and su we rt and i wantchildren favour having children and su we rt and i want to ldren favour having children and su we rt and i want to move or we don't. and i want to move to a where we very much to a culture where we very much do value children and people who want parents. that's want to be parents. that's bebeeeebbeg— want to be parents. that's interesting what-say. want to be parents. that's- interesting what-say about interesting what you say about the interesting what you say about bee-beeegee— interesting what you say about the - because the - interesting what you say about the because the sort of the culture because the sort of brevebbbeg— the culture because the sort of prevailing consensus is that the reason women choosing reason why women are choosing not reason why women are choosing geb-ebbbeeee— reason why women are choosing geb-ebbbeeee be- reason why women are choosing not children is simply not to have children is simply beee— not to have children is simply beeegee—bbl because they can't afford it, beee— because they can't afford it, because economy set up because the economy is set up veeg — because the economy is set up veeg beb— because the economy is set up wrong. but from _ because the economy is set up wrong. but from were wrong. but from what you were eevbeg— wrong. but from what you were eevbeg-eeeeebeg,- wrong. but from what you were saying morning, sounds saying this morning, it sounds bbbe— saying this morning, it sounds bbbe veg— saying this morning, it sounds like you think— saying this morning, it sounds like you think it's something eeebee— like you think it's something beeper-bbeb. - like you think it's something. deeper-that. _think deeper than that. well, i think that certainly one of the that certainly is one of the reasons and things like housing and certainly make and student debt certainly make mean people have become mean that people have to become older before they're able to think i think it think about this. but i think it is much wider thing and it's about we don't value parenting, we children the way

we don't value children the way our set up. the our tax system is set up. the narrative, in fact, that many politicians have you politicians have about, you know, as much know, you must get as much education have the education to have the most fulfilling that can fulfilling career that you can possibly have. and i'm not saying those things aren't good. of are. of course they are. but actually, you get your actually, when you get to your deathbed, really going deathbed, are you really going to i i'd spent more to say, i wish i'd spent more time office? or i wish time in the office? or i wish i'd spent more time with children, or i wish had children, or i wish i'd had children? know, these are children? you know, these are funny mental issues people's funny mental issues of people's fulfilment satisfaction in fulfilment and satisfaction in life children and life is having children and raising generation. raising the next generation. and as we be, as politicians as we should be, trying to the conditions trying to create the conditions that at least make that possible for that's what they for people if that's what they want well jeremy hunt, in want to do. well jeremy hunt, in his widely lauded his budget was was widely lauded for that. it seemed for trying to do that. it seemed by saying for trying to do that. it seemed bv eevbeg bv— for trying to do that. it seemed by saying by offering- “g 22 it seemed by saying by offering free ebbbeeeee— by saying by offering free childcare women who childcare for to women who bebbee— childcare for to women who wanted-back- childcare for to women who wanted-back to- childcare for to women who wanted back to work. but wanted to go back to work. but beeee— wanted to go back to work. but beee—bbbe- wanted to go back to work. butj from _this morning, from your speech this morning, it from your speech this morning, bb—veg— from your speech this morning, bb—veg eee-b- from your speech this morning, it_you don't think it sounded like you don't think bbeb— it sounded like you don't think bbeb be— it sounded like you don't think that is actually— it sounded like you don't think that is actually a— it sounded like you don't think that is actually a particularly beegeeeebve— that is actually a particularly progressive policy. just progressive policy. can you just evbbebeb— progressive policy. can you just explain? absolutely ' “2 explain? absolutely and i ebreegbv— explain? absolutely and i strongly-with- explain? absolutely and i strongly with with that strongly disagree with with that policy. you know, i policy. and, you know, whilst i completely jeremy completely agree with jeremy hunt should be investing completely agree with jeremy hlthe should be investing completely agree with jeremy hlthe first should be investing completely agree with jeremy hlthe first few1ould be investing completely agree with jeremy hlthe first few years be investing completely agree with jeremy hlthe first few years of investing in the first few years of children's i don't think children's lives, i don't think that's to go about it . i that's the way to go about it. i think because, you know,

think firstly because, you know, biology psychology and biology and psychology and research bond research tell us that that bond with mum , especially in the with mum, especially in the first two years life, is first two years of life, is really important for lifelong fulfilling and lifelong security. and as a government, we shouldn't be trying to break that to women, you that by saying to women, you know have support know, you can only have support from state if you leave your from the state if you leave your nine old in the care of nine month old in the care of a stranger. now again, there's nothing childcare and nothing wrong with childcare and there's some brilliant childcare workers there, but workers out there, but fundamentally, if what we're saying country is that the saying is a country is that the role is to back role of women is to get back into the workplace and contribute to gdp, that really devalues motherhood and their unique motherhood unique nature of motherhood and what can to their what women can offer to their children. those kind of children. and it's those kind of things the things that just skew the narrative from having narrative away from having children for their own sake, raising them as an investment in society and towards all just society and towards us all just being contributors to gdp, which doesn't the of doesn't bring the kind of satisfaction think some satisfaction that i think some people does. well, people believe it does. well, thank you very,-much,. thank you very, very much, breebee— thank you very, very much, marion coates._ thank you very, very much, marion coates. it's really great to marion coates. it's really great be ebeeb— marion coates. it's really great be ebeeb be— marion coates. it's really great be ebeeb be veg— marion coates. it's really great to speak to you and you to speak to you and thank you for to speak to you and thank you bee vege— to speak to you and thank you for your speech— to speak to you and thank you for your speech this morning to. so for your speech this morning to. se—bebeee- for your speech this morning to. so_natcon for- so that's it from natcon for beb— so that's it from natcon for now. but-will- so that's it from natcon for now. but-will be- so that's it from natcon for now. but will be back a now. but we will be back in a eegbbe— now. but we will be back in a eegbbe eb— now. but we will be back in a couple of hours— now. but we will be back in a couple of hours with all the

bebeeb— couple of hours with all the bebeeb. bee— couple of hours with all the latest. and we're expecting to beee— latest. and we're expecting to beee sgebbe— latest. and we're expecting to hear suella braverman, the home seeeebeev— secretary speak later. all ebgbb. — secretary speak later. all ebgbb. _twue- secretary speak later. alli right. _you, miriam secretary speak later. all- right. _you, miriam cates, secretary speak later. all- righthere.-you, miriam cates, secretary speak later. all- righthere. we're u, miriam cates, secretary speak later. all righe“2”2 we're still 2 secretary speak later. all righe“2”2 we're still with peter mp there. we're still with peter beeeee— mp there. we're still with peter barnes, political— tiff” ”r“2:3 we're still with peter barnes, political commentator . barnes, political commentator. beg—eb— barnes, political commentator. beg—eb reev- barnes, political commentator. beg—eb beev hq-i you used to work at tory hq. bbbe— you used to work at tory hq. this conference— you used to work at tory hq. this conference will viewed this conference will be viewed vbbb — this conference will be viewed vbbb—be- this conference will be viewedi with—in number with absolute horror in number ten—bravermanl ten because suella braverman is going— ten because suella braverman is gebeg-bbe— ten because suella braverman is gebeg-bbe bebrge- going to attack the prime bbbebebee— going to attack the prime- minister—even minister on immigration, even bbeggb—eb- though she's in charge of immigration— though she's in charge of immigration jacob immigration policy. jacob beee—begg— rees—mogg has spoken. former eebbeeb—eevel rees—mogg has spoken. formeri cabinet—gove is cabinet minister michael gove is bbeee—be— cabinet minister michael gove is bbeee-be bbe— cabinet minister michael gove is there is the levelling there too. who is the levelling up there too. who is the levelling gb eeeeebeev— there too. who is the levelling gb eeeeebeev. se— there too. who is the levelling up secretary. so difficult to eev— up secretary. so difficult to eevle— up secretary. so difficult to say.-a hotbed- up secretary. so difficult to say.-a hotbed of- say. it's a hotbed of dissidence. - say. it's a hotbed of dissidence. “22 say. it's a hotbed of dissidence. 432 say. it's a hotbed of- dissidence. yes. so this is say. it's a hotbed of— dissidence. yes. so this is the thing. there's lots of rumblings about tory revolts, i very about tory revolts, but i very much kind of i'll believe much of a kind of i'll believe it it kind of guy. it when i see it kind of guy. you know, we keep hearing things of great rebellions all the time and really come to and they never really come to anything. i think this kind anything. what i think this kind of and one just of conference and the one just last with lord curtis last weekend with lord curtis and group, i think and that kind of group, i think what seeing is bring what we're seeing is that bring back that was basically it was a bnng back that was basically it was a bring boris conference. but bring back boris conference. but i think what we're seeing is a lot the saying to lot of the party saying to number your act in number 10, get your act in order, you know, sort yourselves out after kind of kicking out after the kind of kicking that the locals. that they got, the locals. i think there's a lot of discontent, not just amongst party members, but now we're starting it in the

starting to see it in the councils and also in the officials and even in the parliamentary they're parliamentary party. they're starting grumbles and it starting to make grumbles and it could be a bit of a problem for rishi got rishi sunak because he's got some the agenda and some big bills on the agenda and darren, he'd been doing pretty well. he'd the poll lead well. he'd been the poll lead for well. he'd been the poll lead be-vee— well. he'd been the poll lead for-was tightening- well. he'd been the poll lead. for-was tightening-he for labour was tightening and he eeeee— for labour was tightening and he eeeeeee-bbe— for labour was tightening and he seemed _the front- for labour was tightening and he seemed the front foot seemed to be on the front foot on so many-but- seemed to be on the front foot on so many but then the on so many things. but then the beeeb— on so many things. but then the local election— on so many things. but then the local election results at local election results were at bbe— local election results were at bee-eeeb— local election results were at bbe-eeelbbe- the worst end of the projections. - the worst end of the projections. they weren't. 3:22 projections. they weren't. we eeeb—b— projections. they weren't. we eeeb—b bbbeb- projections. they weren't. we. read—i think labour's projections. they weren't. we read research i think labour's projections. they weren't. we read research suggests labour's projections. they weren't. we read research suggests thattur's projections. they weren't. we read research suggests thattur' to own research suggests that up to a people, lib a quarter of those people, lib dems back the lib dems at dems who back the lib dems at the election would switch to laboun the election would switch to labour, would labour, which in theory would make difficult make it even more difficult because winning some because they'd be winning some more seats. i for rishi more seats. i think for rishi sunak, you're right. you know, he of framework, he got the winds of framework, which was incredibly which actually was incredibly politically which actually was incredibly politicwith deal or not. but agree with the deal or not. but tory mps support that. clearly there's very there's been very few rebellions, all on rebellions, not least of all on the immigration where the immigration bill, where there's concerns that could there's concerns that that could get scuppered. and he has particularly get scuppered. and he has paripollirly between him and get scuppered. and he has parijstarmer. between him and get scuppered. and he has parijstarmer. when en him and get scuppered. and he has parijstarmer. when it| him and get scuppered. and he has parijstarmer. when it comes nd get scuppered. and he has parijstarmer. when it comes to keir starmer. when it comes to who do you think would be best as prime minister for. however, you know, end of day, you know, at the end of the day, as bad think as good or bad as you think rishi sunak he can defy rishi sunak as he can also defy kind gravity, political kind of gravity, political gravity, if you like, and that is the fact the

is the fact that the conservative party been in power for they've spun for 13 years. they've spun through leaders in the through three leaders in the last course, are last year. of course, they are discontented bunch. and the problem for problem i think, for the conservative party the public conservative party is the public knows discontented knows they're a discontented bunch. comes the bunch. and when it comes to the next is going next election, this is going to be the biggest challenge of genuinely being to present be the biggest challenge of gtunitedy being to present be the biggest challenge of gtunited platform to present a united platform for the future. i see that today and future. and i see that today and a fresh one. we that today a fresh one. we see that today with braverman, with suella braverman, who frankly taking out of frankly is taking chunks out of cabinet ministers on immigration figures listening miriam figures and listening to miriam cates a very fresh cates there, that's a very fresh take on that debate. and trust me, she's take on that debate. and trust ebe-e geb— take on that debate. and trust me, she's got three— 22“ 2 and trust me, she's got three kids. i've got— me, she's got three kids. i've geb bbeee— me, she's got three kids. i've got three kids.— me, she's got three kids. i've got three kids. she makes me bbbeb— got three kids. she makes me bbbeb eeeb— got three kids. she makes me bbbeb eee b— got three kids. she makes me think and i like— got three kids. she makes me think and i like that in bebbbbee. — think and i like that in politics. but- think and i like that in politics. 2 think and i like that in- politics. but the weird thing is that that could be that could be stella creasy making that exact same argument. yeah. you know, and fascinating that i and it is fascinating that i think, you know, whether you're right is starting right or left there is starting to build a viewpoint here that actually , you know, parenthood actually, you know, parenthood and are focus on getting people constantly into work sometimes has been to the detriment, particularly of women who have left. having kids later in life to the point where actually lots

of women have left it. so late, they find it really, really difficult indeed. and so i think whether, again, it's a left or right there focus on right issue, there is a focus on the fact that actually we've been the wider been too focussed on the wider economy necessarily on economy and not necessarily on see, don't think i think see, i don't think i think what she's different she's saying is very different to creasy has said, to what stella creasy has said, unless something that's unless there's something that's passed don't passed me by because i don't really word that really hang on every word that i hear from stella creasy, but from miriam cates is saying from what miriam cates is saying there women to stay there is encourage women to stay at very different at home. that's a very different eeeege -._ at home. that's a very different message.-i think— at home. that's a very different message.-i think it- that's a very different message. i think it was message. but i think it was ebegb— message. but i think it was ebegb beb— message. but i think it was about but on— message. but i think it was about but on the essence, she eevbeg— about but on the essence, she eevbeg be— about but on the essence, she was saying is because we should be-beegeeee— was saying is because we should be .focussedikind- was saying is because we should be focussed kind like be less focussed on kind of like eeebebbgbbeg— be less focussed on kind of like contributing to— be less focussed on kind of like contributing to figures contributing to gdp figures and more focussed— contributing to gdp figures and more focussed on— contributing to gdp figures and more focussed on actually what's bebbee— more focussed on actually what's better-families— more focussed on actually what's better-families ,— more focussed on actually what's better families , kids, better for families, kids, beeebbbee. — better for families, kids, families. and- better for families, kids, families. and i- better for families, kids, families. ' 2 g “ better for families, kids, families. ' 2 5g5 “ better for families, kids,- families. and i think again , i families. and i think again, i don't that necessarily is don't think that necessarily is a thing. a party political thing. i know sometimes people on the on the right have suggested kind right have suggested that kind of values and women of family values and women staying more staying at home is a more conservative traditional view and of and maybe it's the point of that. think a lot of that. but i think a lot of people the feel very people on the left feel very uncomfortable fact that uncomfortable with the fact that if the choice and the if women want the choice and the support to stay at support to be able to stay at home and raise their children, they should allowed do so. they should be allowed to do so. the be supporting

the state should be supporting that well. peter, prime that as well. and peter, prime minister, will listen to what miriam cates said. very interesting. to interesting. but he's going to eeebeebe— interesting. but he's going to concentrate on— interesting. but he's going to concentrate on gdp, economy, eeeb— concentrate on gdp, economy, eeeb-bee— concentrate on gdp, economy, eeeb-bee eeb- concentrate on gdp, economy, cost-are not the- cost of living. are not the ebgbbe— cost of living. are not the rights-women- cost of living. are not the rights women have kids at rights of women to have kids at beeee. — rights of women to have kids at beeee. b— rights of women to have kids at home. ithink— rights of women to have kids at home. i think i— rights of women to have kids at home. i think i think- rights of women to have kids at home. i think i think you're right. there one the right. there it's one of the obviously it's one of rishi's five pledges halve inflation five pledges to halve inflation and to have and he's going to have to have a huge focus. economy going and he's going to have to have a hube focus. economy going and he's going to have to have a hu be the s. economy going and he's going to have to have a hube the issue economy going and he's going to have to have a hube the issue at:onomy going and he's going to have to have a hube the issue at the my going and he's going to have to have a hu be the issue at the next going to be the issue at the next election. no getting election. there's no getting around i do think around that. but i do think rishi be bit rishi is will be a little bit deaf and a bit silly if deaf and a little bit silly if he doesn't listen to people like miriam cates. a miriam cates. she's a particularly the particularly rising star in the conservative mean, conservative party now. i mean, like she's minister. yeah, i exactly the here. exactly the same here. i actually double check actually had to double check whether was just whether she was one just jittering platform that jittering what the platform that she's rishi, she's got now. but again rishi, if really listen if he doesn't really listen to this of wing party, this kind of wing of the party, this kind of wing of the party, this growing movement this kind of growing movement and kind of co—opted, this kind of growing movement and at kind of co—opted, this kind of growing movement and at least kind of co—opted, this kind of growing movement and at least kindind of co—opted, this kind of growing movement and at least kind of of co—opted, this kind of growing movement and at least kind of listen—opted, this kind of growing movement and at least kind of listen to )ted, but at least kind of listen to them, them into the fold, them, bring them into the fold, as were. ithink them, bring them into the fold, as were. i think he's going as it were. i think he's going to be for a lot of trouble. to be in for a lot of trouble. quite nice to a woman quite nice to hear a woman talking about women's issues rather telling rather than jeremy hunt telling me kids. me what to do with my kids. well, has been one well, so this has been one of bee— well, so this has been one of bee bbg— well, so this has been one of bee bbg bee— well, so this has been one of bee bbg bee bbg— well, so this has been one of her big her big things, really. bee— her big her big things, really. bee b— her big her big things, really. bee b brev— her big her big things, really. and i know she— her big her big things, really. and i know she got— her big her big things, really. and i know she got quite- her big her big things, really. and i know she got quite a lot of flack over the trans debate

and i think of became and i think she kind of became really with rosie. really good friends with rosie. duffield as well. so they've kind up labour mp kind of made up the labour mp who on her side who got into trouble on her side on her own there is it on her own side. so there is it is to see there's is interesting to see there's a particular fight back in parliament the parliament on both sides of the house tories get stuck into house the tories get stuck into the wars because the culture wars because the pubuc the culture wars because the public on side. public would be on their side. they're on the side of the they're not on the side of the ses— they're not on the side of the ses bevbeg— they're not on the side of the ses bevbeg be— they're not on the side of the sps trying to give enable ebbbeeee— sps trying to give enable- children—gender children to change their gender vbbbegb— children to change their gender vbbbegb-eegee- children to change their gender without-mum and. children to change their gender without mum and dad without talking to mum and dad at without talking to mum and dad eb-ege— without talking to mum and dad eb-ege eb— without talking to mum and dad eb-ege eb b. — without talking to mum and dad eb-ege eb b-b- without talking to mum and dad at age of 15. i think. without talking to mum and dad at ge of 15. i think. without talking to mum and dad at “g15. i think. without talking to mum and dad at “g i think. without talking to mum and dad at “g g :hink. without talking to mum and dad at “2 2 but the thing is though, when you look at the polls and you go, what the biggest issues you look at the polls and you go, whthe the biggest issues you look at the polls and you go, whthe country?ggest issues you look at the polls and you go, whthe country?ggest are es you look at the polls and you go, whthe country?ggest are you facing the country? what are you most concerned about actually, those low those issues are pretty low down. it is essentially how am i going to pay the bills? it may be low down, but it— g2 “g 7 it may be low down, but it brought g2 “g 27 it may be low down, but it brought down bbeebe— be low down, but it brought down bbeebe-bev— nicola sturgeon. how can i get a eeebeee — nicola sturgeon. how can i get a eeebeee beet.— nicola sturgeon. how can i get a doctor? yeah, partly.- nicola sturgeon. how can i get a doctor? 24:35“ doctor? yeah, partly. partly right. doctor? yeah, partly. partly i right._gentlemen. doctor? yeah, partly. partly - right._gentlemen. now right. thank you, gentlemen. now still right. thank you, gentlemen. now ebbbb be— right. thank you, gentlemen. now ebbbb be eeebe— right. thank you, gentlemen. now still to come, kensington palace has still to come, kensington palace bee-e— still to come, kensington palace bee-e ebgeebeg- has released a stunning behind the scenes video of the prince eeeb—eb- the scenes video of the prince eee—eb bbe| and princess of wales at the bbeg-e—beeb- and princess of wales at the king's—last week.| and princess of wales at the king'byou last week. and princess of wales at the king'byou seen last week. and princess of wales at the king'byou seen it?last week. and princess of wales at the king'byou seen it? i st week. and princess of wales at the king'byou seen it? i have.3k. and princess of wales at the king'byou seen it? i have. it's have you seen it? i have. it's verv— have you seen it? i have. it's veev, verv— have you seen it? i have. it's veev, veev ebbeb. — have you seen it? i have. it's very, very slick. if— have you seen it? i have. it's very, very slick. if you haven't n,— seen it,

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and princess of wales. that's william and kate, of course, at the king's coronation last week . so the princess of wales also eeebe— . so the princess of wales also eeebe e— . so the princess of wales also made a surprise— so the princess of wales also made a surprise appearance on sebgeeev-e— made a surprise appearance on saturday's grand— made a surprise appearance on saturday's grand finale of the bgeevbebee— saturday's grand finale of the eurovision song— saturday's grand finale of the eurovision song contest . o“ eurovision song contest. oh, is bbbe— eurovision song contest. oh, is bbbe e— eurovision song contest. oh, is bbbe e eevbe— eurovision song contest. oh, is bbbe e ebvbe eb— eurovision song contest. oh, is this a style of public engagement? a preview of what's to come. we're joined now by former royal correspondent for the sun, charles rea. charles, i thought that it looked fantastic , but a little bit of me was uneasy because i thought wasn't it all meant to be? last week about the king and queen camilla? and did they need to do this, although is this showing we are the next generation and how fabulous we look? i think you're absolutely right, andrew. i think it's we're showing it's bbe— i think it's we're showing it's bbe eevb— i think it's we're showing it's the next generation. it was a bebgbege— the next generation. it was a fabulous little _ the next generation. it was a fabulous little video, eebeebebbv— fabulous little video, especially the little cameo performances— especially the little cameo performances from charlotte and bebbe— performances from charlotte and begbe vbe— performances from charlotte and louis who came— performances from charlotte and louis who came into the room beeb— louis who came into the room tgeb bebeee— louis who came into the room just before the— louis who came into the room just before the mother walked in, just before the mother walked be. be— just before the mother walked be. be ebb— just before the mother walked be. be ebb bee— just before the mother walked in, in all her resplendent glory . beb— in, in all her resplendent glory . bgb bee-b— in, in all her resplendent glory . bgb bee-b bb— in, in all her resplendent glory . but isn't it interesting, bebeee— . but isn't it interesting, andrew, that— . but isn't it interesting, andrew, that from last week , we andrew, that from last week, we are andrew, that from last week, we eeebeg— andrew, that from last week, we are now seeing a— andrew, that from last week, we are now seeing a little bit more

eb— are now seeing a little bit more eb bbe— are now seeing a little bit more more of the children of the beeebbv— more of the children of the beeebbv ev— more of the children of the family now, this- more of the children of the family now, this couple, this beeebbv— family now, this couple, this beeebbv eee— family now, this couple, this family are an— family now, this couple, this family are an ad— family now, this couple, this family are an ad man's dream. bbe— family are an ad man's dream. bb-e bbbe— family are an ad man's dream. it's like they've— family are an ad man's dream. it's like they've been put begebbee— it's like they've been put together specifically , you know, together specifically, you know, together specifically, you know, be geb— together specifically, you know, be geb be — together specifically, you know, be geb be geb— together specifically, you know, to get to get the— together specifically, you know, to get to get the votes . and, to get to get the votes. and, you— to get to get the votes. and, veg brew.— to get to get the votes. and, you know, when— to get to get the votes. and, you know, when we saw them last veee— you know, when we saw them last week eb— you know, when we saw them last week eb bbe— you know, when we saw them last week at the coronation you know, the week at the coronation you know, bbe bbg— week at the coronation you know, bbe bbg begeb— week at the coronation you know, the big lunch, the— week at the coronation you know, the big lunch, the volunteer , the big lunch, the volunteer, bbe— the big lunch, the volunteer, bbe eeegbbeg— the big lunch, the volunteer, the scouting thing , it's really the scouting thing, it's really is the scouting thing, it's really be geeeb— the scouting thing, it's really be geeeb. bev.— the scouting thing, it's really is great. now, i'm not egggeebbeg— is great. now, i'm not suggesting that we're going to see suggesting that we're going to bbe— suggesting that we're going to bbe bbee— suggesting that we're going to see the kids all— suggesting that we're going to see the kids all the time, but ebeeebv— see the kids all the time, but ebeeebv vveee— see the kids all the time, but clearly we're going to get gbbeebeee— clearly we're going to get gbbeebeee eb— clearly we're going to get glimpses of them growing up . and glimpses of them growing up. and i glimpses of them growing up. and b-bbbeb— glimpses of them growing up. and b-bbbeb bb— glimpses of them growing up. and b-bbbeb bb be— glimpses of them growing up. and i think it is absolutely i just think it is absolutely veeeeebgb— i just think it is absolutely wonderful .— i just think it is absolutely wonderful . all— i just think it is absolutely wonderful . all with i just think it is absolutely- wonderful . all-with that wonderful. all coupled with that bbebegeebb— wonderful. all coupled with that bbebegeebb ee— wonderful. all coupled with that photograph as well. of the three beeebbbe— photograph as well. of the three beeebbbe bbgge— photograph as well. of the three possible kings together for, you knew.— possible kings together for, you know, charles— possible kings together for, you know, charles william and eeege.— know, charles william and eeeege. b— know, charles william and george, i mean,- know, charles william and george, i mean, that just secures the— george, i mean, that just secures the monarchy and tells the secures the monarchy and tells bbe eeebe — secures the monarchy and tells the doom mongers that the eeeeeeebv— the doom mongers that the eeeeeeebv be— the doom mongers that the monarchy is safe for at least bbe— monarchy is safe for at least bbe eevb— monarchy is safe for at least the next hundred— monarchy is safe for at least the next hundred years. charles i the next hundred years. charles r beeb— the next hundred years. charles b bee e— the next hundred years. charles i had a friend— the next hundred years. charles i had a friend who— the next hundred years. charles i had a friend who was a buckingham _ i had a friend who was a buckingham palace garden party for buckingham palace garden party bee bbe— buckingham palace garden party bee bbe bbeb— buckingham palace garden party for the first time— buckingham palace garden party for the first time last week, eee— for the first time last week, eee be— for the first time last week, eee be eebe— for the first time last week, and he said it— for the first time last week, and he said it was extraordinary. “2,2 and he said it was- extraordinary. they crowds flocked around kate , around, flocked around kate, around, around the princess of wales , as around the princess of wales, as they were, of course, interested in prince, prince, prince william , the prince of wales, william, the prince of wales, not quite so interested, it's

fair to say , in the wonderful fair to say, in the wonderful redoubtable princess anne. yeah, i think i think you're ebgbb— yeah, i think i think you're ebgbb ee— yeah, i think i think you're right as well. _ yeah, i think i think you're right as well. and the thing ebegb— right as well. and the thing about william— right as well. and the thing about william is he's not making the about william is he's not making bbe ee— about william is he's not making the same mistake— about william is he's not making the same mistake us that his bebbee— the same mistake us that his bebbee eeebe— the same mistake us that his father made when he was married to father made when he was married be bebeeeee— father made when he was married to princess diana— father made when he was married to princess diana .— father made when he was married to princess diana . and everybody to princess diana. and everybody bbeggbb—vee- to princess diana. and everybody thought—was the. thought princess diana was the geeebeeb— thought princess diana was the geeebeeb bbbeg— thought princess diana was the greatest thing since sliced breed— greatest thing since sliced bread-still- greatest thing since sliced bread-still is- greatest thing since sliced bread-still is ,- greatest thing since sliced bread still is , in greatest thing since sliced. bread-still is , in my bread and still still is, in my w.— bread and still still is, in my but,— bread and still still is, in my but, you— bread and still still is, in my view. but, you know, you've got now, catherine,— view. but, you know, you've got now, catherine, who is following in those— now, catherine, who is following in those footsteps— now, catherine, who is following in those footsteps and this is a this— in those footsteps and this is a this is— in those footsteps and this is a iiis is .— in those footsteps and this is a this is a woman— in those footsteps and this is a this is a woman who could wear sasisioiii— this is a woman who could wear sackcloth and— this is a woman who could wear sackcloth and ashes and still isos— sackcloth and ashes and still look absolutely— sackcloth and ashes and still look absolutely brilliant. i mean, you briefly mentioned the eurovision— mean, you briefly mentioned the eurovision song— mean, you briefly mentioned the eurovision song contest. it was pioiaiiy— eurovision song contest. it was pioiaiiy iiie— eurovision song contest. it was probably the best— eurovision song contest. it was probably the best thing in the eurovision— probably the best thing in the eurovision song— probably the best thing in the eurovision song contest because the eurovision song contest because is resi— eurovision song contest because is issi oi— eurovision song contest because is issi oi ii— eurovision song contest because the rest of it was— eurovision song contest because the rest of it was completely iiiiisii— the rest of it was completely iiiiisii song,— the rest of it was completely british song, certainly better man— british song, certainly better iiian iiis— british song, certainly better than the british— british song, certainly better than the british song. charles oh, than the british song. charles 0h, wen.— than the british song. charles 0h, weii. ii— than the british song. charles oh, well, it was— than the british song. charles oh, well, it was certainly the british song in my opinion, a lot better than most of the other songs as well . i mean, it other songs as well. i mean, it was that other songs as well. i mean, it is im— other songs as well. i mean, it was that that was— g i mean, it was that that was completely rehearsed— was that that was completely rehearsed in— was that that was completely rehearsed in complete privacy . rehearsed in complete privacy. ani— rehearsed in complete privacy. and i— rehearsed in complete privacy. and if you— rehearsed in complete privacy. and if you rememberjust before the

and if you rememberjust before is soniesi— and if you rememberjust before the contest started, there were psopis— the contest started, there were people saying,— the contest started, there were people saying, oh, there's a big suiiissp— people saying, oh, there's a big surprise. there's— people saying, oh, there's a big surprise. there's a— people saying, oh, there's a big surprise. there's a big, big is— surprise. there's a big, big ii-s-soms- surprise. there's a big, big it's-come along. surprise. there's a big, big. it's-come along and, it's going to come along and, weii— it's going to come along and, weii-souii— it's going to come along and, well,-could have- it's going to come along and, well, could have guessed it well, who could have guessed it going— well, who could have guessed it going is— well, who could have guessed it going io io— well, who could have guessed it was going to be the princess of iioiosi— was going to be the princess of. iioiosi—ios wales? i no, she only played ios , iii— wales.7 i no, she only played ios , iii ii— wales.7 i no, she only played ios , iii i was— wales? i no, she only played ios , but it was 10s— wales? i no, she only played ios , but it was ios of— wales? i no, she only played ios , but it was ios of magic. and it , but it was ios of magic. and i just— , but it was ios of magic. and ii iusi iogoois— , but it was ios of magic. and it just repeats what she in it just repeats what she did in december— it just repeats what she did in december 2021— it just repeats what she did in december 2021 with the musician iom — december 2021 with the musician iom iioikoi— december 2021 with the musician iom iioikoi oi— december 2021 with the musician tom walker at that— december 2021 with the musician tom walker at that christmas iiing. — tom walker at that christmas iiing. ani— tom walker at that christmas thing. and also— tom walker at that christmas thing. and also follows on from whoo— thing. and also follows on from what princess— thing. and also follows on from what princess diana did in ausiioiio— what princess diana did in australia in— what princess diana did in australia in 1988 and in prague in ism.— australia in 1988 and in prague in issi. iioyoi— australia in 1988 and in prague in 1991. played the piano brilliantly.— in 1991. played the piano brilliantly. charles, i wonder ii. — brilliantly. charles, i wonder ii. won.— brilliantly. charles, i wonder if. well, this— brilliantly. charles, i wonder if. well, this is— brilliantly. charles, i wonder if. well, this is this- brilliantly. charles, i wonder if. well, this is this is william and kate raising their game in the aftermath of harry and meghan , isn't it? harry and and meghan, isn't it? harry and meghan could have been the couple that were going to film everything in high definition. i mean, we've just seen the footage there. they've got drones hired in. it's drones they've hired in. it's beautifully edited . i wonder if beautifully edited. i wonder if this in a way has been inspired by what was clearly a competition between the two couples. and now you've got the victor gao serious. kate and william riding off into the sunset in absolute style . i sunset in absolute style. i don't disagree with you , babe.

sunset in absolute style. i- don't disagree with you , babe. i don't disagree with you, babe. i iusi— don't disagree with you, babe. i iusi mink— don't disagree with you, babe. i just think that— don't disagree with you, babe. i just think that this is the iioios— just think that this is the wales setting— just think that this is the wales setting out there . stoll wales setting out there. stoll vou— wales setting out there. stoll you know,— wales setting out there. stoll you know, you— wales setting out there. stoll you know, you just have a you gust— you know, you just have a you iusi hove— you know, you just have a you us have io— you know, you just have a you just have to have— you know, you just have a you just have to have a look whenever they - just have to have a look whenever they turn up, wherever they— whenever they turn up, wherever they to, — whenever they turn up, wherever they to, there-s— whenever they turn up, wherever they do, there's just thousands of they do, there's just thousands ot heohie— they do, there's just thousands ot geogie there— they do, there's just thousands of people there just what they certainty— of people there just what they certainly want— of people there just what they certainly want to _ of people there just what they certainly want to get a glimpse of, certainly want to get a glimpse ot, ot— certainly want to get a glimpse of, of catherine.— certainly want to get a glimpse of, of catherine. but let's not toget— of, of catherine. but let's not forget william.— of, of catherine. but let's not forget william. he is the future ting.— forget william. he is the future tihg. ithi— forget william. he is the future tihg. aht hes— forget william. he is the future king. and he's popular. he king. and he's very popular. he woslthe— king. and he's very popular. he woslthe-cuh- king. and he's very popular. he was-the-cup finali was at the women's cup final yestettoy— was at the women's cup final yestettoy ,— was at the women's cup final yestettoy , you— was at the women's cup final yesterday , you know, pressing yesterday, you know, pressing the-everything- yesterday, you know, pressing the everything else. the flesh and everything else. he the flesh and everything else. he-o— the flesh and everything else. he-o greet— the flesh and everything else. he a great reception from he got a great reception from evehhoty— he got a great reception from evehhoty this— he got a great reception from everybody this is— he got a great reception from everybody this is the couple of the tutute— everybody this is the couple of the tutute .— everybody this is the couple of the future . this— everybody this is the couple of the future . this is— everybody this is the couple of the future . this is where our the future. this is where our tutute— the future. this is where our tutute ties— the future. this is where our future lies with— the future. this is where our future lies with the monarchy. aho— future lies with the monarchy. aht wett— future lies with the monarchy. aht ue-ii he— future lies with the monarchy. and we'll be seeing a lot more of and we'll be seeing a lot more ot gem,— and we'll be seeing a lot more ot them, you— and we'll be seeing a lot more of them, you know, on the tteothiii. — of them, you know, on the treadmill. yeah- of them, you know, on the treadmill. yeah well, thank you, chutes. — treadmill. yeah well, thank you, charles. charles— treadmill. yeah well, thank you, charles. charles rea- treadmill. yeah well, thank you, charles. t charles. charles rea there from the sun. thank you so much. i just feel like you want to keep your fingers crossed for them, don't you? but it's interesting whot— don't you? but it's interesting whet—thou- don't you? but it's interesting| what—about prince what charles said about prince chutes— charles not made the same mistake— charles not made the same mistake-prince- charles not made the same mistake prince diana mistake with prince diana heeouse— mistake with prince diana because charles because prince charles was ieoious— because prince charles wasi teoious—ot jealous of the outpouring of pubuc_ jealous of the outpouring of. huhiie—he-t jealous of the outpouring of- huhiie—he-t he public affection because he'd be doing—oht- public affection because he'd be toihg—oht he-tl doing the walkabout and he'd toot— doing the walkabout and he'd toot uh— doing the walkabout and he'd toot uh oht— doing the walkabout and he'd look up and they were flocking othout— look up and they were flocking otouht—toiei around the beautiful fairy tale hiheess — around the beautiful fairy tale gheess —she i around the beautiful fairy tale. princess. _she was princess. she was new. she was heoutitui. — princess. she was new. she was beautiful. charles— princess. she was new. she was beautiful. charles been around a tong— beautiful. charles been around a iohg time— beautiful. charles been around a tohg time oht— beautiful. charles been around a long time and he's— beautiful. charles been around a

long time and he's never been heoutitui. — long time and he's never been beautiful. you— long time and he's never been beautiful. you feel- long time and he's never been beautiful. 43.711; c 37” {.in beautiful. you feel like prince william would just be like, fine. attention. fine. take the attention. i'm happy he wants the happy he look, he wants the monarchy a success. and he monarchy to be a success. and he saw man as he monarchy to be a success. and he saw-man as he saw- monarchy to be a success. and he saw-man as he saw whati saw a young man as he saw what hophehet—he- saw a young man as he saw what hoppehet—he o- saw a young man as he saw what happened—me a lift| happened once he gave me a lift toleiroort— happened once he gave me a lift to.airport, prince— happened once he gave me a lift to airport, prince william. to an airport, prince william. gt,— to an airport, prince william. oh i— to an airport, prince william. oh i thou— to an airport, prince william. oh, i knowlnever_ to an airport, prince william. oh, i knowlnever told- to an airport, prince william. oh, i know i never told you that story. i might that for story. i might save that for other well, do so. i other day. well, it's do so. i think we need know other day. well, it's do so. i. think we need-know more. other day. well, it's do so. i think we need know more. was think we need to know more. was it hust— think we need to know more. was it tust humped— think we need to know more. was it just bumped into— think we need to know more. was it just bumped into in it just bumped into kate in starbucks in henley thames? starbucks in henley on thames? was just the two you? uh, was it just the two of you? uh, i'll was it just the two of you? uh, tit-you. — was it just the two of you? uh, i-ii-youlstve- i'll tell you. i'll save that. i'll tell you. i'll save that. i'll save cliff—hanger the i'll save that cliff—hanger the princess wales. no, about princess of wales. no, about this. were together. yes, this. they were together. yes, yes. still to come,— this. "t:i;«t ugh; 3 yes, yes. still to come, zelenskyy is meeting— yes. still to come, zelenskyy is meeting with— yes. still to come, zelenskyy is meeting with the— yes. still to come, zelenskyy is meeting with the prime minister with—increased. with hopes to garner increased support— with hopes to garner increased sugtust— with hopes to garner increased sugtust hou— with hopes to garner increased sup|just how more support but just how much more support can but just how much more support ooh-give— but just how much more support ooh-give to— but just how much more support can give to ukraine? we can the uk give to ukraine? we tint— can the uk give to ukraine? we tint-otter— can the uk give to ukraine? we find-after the— can the uk give to ukraine? we find after the news with find out after the news with iohsih— find out after the news with tamsin roberts— find out after the news with tamsin roberts .— find out after the news with tamsin roberts . find out after the news with tamsin roberts. icy tamsin roberts. bev, thanks very much. here are the headlines at 1131, the prime minister has compared president zelenskyy s wartime leadership to that of winston churchill, the ukrainian president is with sunak at chequers, the prime minister's country retreat for what he's

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people's channel britain is watching . good morning. it's watching. good morning. it's 1137. you're with to the- 1137. you're with to the point on 1137. you're with to the point oh oh— 1137. you're with to the point oh so heus— 1137. you're with to the point on gb news few— 1137. you're with to the point on gb news few of your views. 0g.— on gb news few of your views. 0h actuatio— on gb news few of your views. oh, actually, no.— on gb news few of your views. oh, actually, no. i— on gb news few of your views. oh, actually, no. i want to show you— oh, actually, no. i want to show you this. — oh, actually, no. i want to show you this. teth— oh, actually, no. i want to show you this. yeah, this— oh, actually, no. i want to show you this. yeah, this is good. tie-ve— you this. yeah, this is good. tie-ye got— you this. yeah, this is good. iie-ye got to— you this. yeah, this is good. we've got to show you this gb heus— we've got to show you this gb heus-ioeoh- we've got to show you this gb- news-jacob rees—mogg, news presenter jacob rees—mogg, tohhet— news presenter jacob rees—mogg, former cabinet— news presenter jacob rees—mogg, former cabinet minister. course he-spettihg— former cabinet minister. course he-speakinglthis- former cabinet minister. course he speaking this national he was speaking at this national conservatism conference this morning. happened morning. and look what happened a bird . back to work. well,

a bird. back to work. well, there we go . our- ' t: f well, there we go . our jolly good there we go. our jolly good teiiou— there we go. our jolly good teiiou hos— there we go. our jolly good fellow has had— there we go. our jolly good fellow has had to leave, but we teiieve— fellow has had to leave, but we teiieve .— believe. so.- believe. so. if you're teiieve.— so. if you're listening to this on the— so. if you're listening to this on the radio,— so. if you're listening to this on the radio, basically there's a on the radio, basically there's o ieeteth— on the radio, basically there's o ieeteth o— on the radio, basically there's a lectern, a stage— on the radio, basically there's a lectern, a stage national eohsehotive— a lectern, a stage national conservative ism, jacob tees—hogg— conservative ism, jacob rees—mogg, at the lectern and a grey— rees—mogg, at the lectern and a grey haired,— rees—mogg, at the lectern and a grey haired, suited— rees—mogg, at the lectern and a grey haired, suited gentleman ran on and heckled , which we all ran on and heckled, which we all think— ran on and heckled, which we all think is— ran on and heckled, which we all think is tuhhy. — ran on and heckled, which we all think is funny. but— ran on and heckled, which we all think is funny. f think is funny. but actually you do have to think security issues are and remember, a couple of years ago, theresa may was making her speech as prime minister and some creep comedian handed a p45 . yeah, very handed her a p45. yeah, very funny. ha, ha. how was that allowed she's got allowed to happen when she's got about six armed protection officers around her now, jacob doesn't have that, but it's funny. jacob handled very funny. and jacob handled it very well. security should be funny. and jacob handled it very we issue. security should be funny. and jacob handled it very we issue. well,irity should be funny. and jacob handled it very we issue. well, political ld be an issue. well, political commentator— well, political commentator bushra t?“ well, political commentator bushra sheikh is host— commentator bushra sheikh is hoot-us. — commentator bushra sheikh is back-us. .also- commentator bushra sheikh is back us. also johnny back with us. and also johnny souit— back with us. and also johnny souit-hete— back with us. and also johnny gould-here as— back with us. and also johnny gould here as well. what do

gould are here as well. what do you— gould are here as well. what do you hote— gould are here as well. what do you mote ot— gould are here as well. what do you make of that,— gould are here as well. what do you make of that, bushra? when we-tootoge— you make of that, bushra? when we-footage like— you make of that, bushra? when we footage like that and we see footage like that and thereu— we see footage like that and ithtteu hos— we see footage like that and andrew has a— we see footage like that and andrew has a point, doesn't he, ohout— andrew has a point, doesn't he, about-security— andrew has a point, doesn't he, about security arnie you about the security arnie you have — about the security arnie you have _that- about the security arnie you have _that there| have to question that there must be have to question that there must he—toet- have to question that there must toe—toot thotl be security until the fact that you— be security until the fact that you ooh— be security until the fact that you shone-— be security until the fact that you can-one man- be security until the fact that you can one man can enter you can have one man can enter oht— you can have one man can enter the get— you can have one man can enter the get oh— you can have one man can enter the get on the— you can have one man can enter and get on the stage. that's gutte— and get on the stage. that's quite—coutu- quite frightening. could have had knife, gun, acid had a knife, a gun, acid totally. raises totally. i mean that raises questions like when you have people anywhere, how will these individuals getting through? yeah. because for those listening on the radio he was suned listening on the radio he was suited and booted with a tie on grey hair probably in his 60s, maybe later . but lunatics grey hair probably in his 60s, maybe later. but lunatics come in ott— maybe later. but lunatics come in hit eges— maybe later. but lunatics come in oti eges oht— maybe later. but lunatics come in all ages and shapes- but lunatics come in all ages and shapes and sizes . i— in all ages and shapes and sizes . i meth— in all ages and shapes and sizes . i tit— in all ages and shapes and sizes . i mean, did he— in all ages and shapes and sizes . i mean, did he just- in all ages and shapes and sizes . i mean, did he just manage to get in because we didn't see the bit before he did run onto stage or maybe part of the cut and strategy. arnie have to strategy. arnie do you have to put strategy. arnie do you have to hut-with— strategy. arnie do you have to hut-with thet— strategy. arnie do you have to put-with that on _ strategy. arnie do you have to put-with that on a- g arnie do you have to put with that on a football put up with that on a football hitch— put up with that on a football pitch _weekend? - put up with that on a football. pitch _weekend? eddie, pitch over the weekend? eddie, hou— pitch over the weekend? eddie, how—ot— pitch over the weekend? eddie, how of newcastle got how the manager of newcastle got confronted a leeds fan. did confronted by a leeds fan. did he, who's banned for life? he, who's now banned for life? rightly so, yeah. it seems be rightly so, yeah. it seems to be a more a worrying trend, but more difficult leeds to difficult for a leeds fan to attack because attack eddie howe because he'd have pitch have 22 players on the pitch would his defence. but would jump to his defence. but of course if he'd gotlknife.. of course if he'd got a knife. teth— of course if he'd got a knife. yeah we — of course if he'd got a knife. yeah too. i— of course if he'd got a knife. yeah 100. i mean- of course if he'd got a knife. yeah 100. " yeah 100. i mean the photos of them literally standing there

and eddie howe's and the look on eddie howe's face how is this guy face of like, how is this guy got right in got here? but he's right in front so yes, i mean it front of him. so yes, i mean it is a potentially life threatening situation. and i mean, all favour. i think mean, i'm all in favour. i think the important thing say the most important thing to say is obviously people be is obviously people should be allowed to demonstrate, of course, and put their views across. are there across. but but there are there has limits. yeah. and has to be limits. yeah. and where potentially where somebody potentially somebody can be somebody and life can be threatened and we all know jacob has before. i has been harassed before. i remember seeing it his " i remember seeing it his he had his oh— remember seeing it his he had his so— remember seeing it his he had his own son-who- remember seeing it his he had his own son who was his own son with him who was about— his own son with him who was ohout-io. — his own son with him who was ohout-io. oht— his own son with him who was about 13. and they were about 12 or 13. and they were suuouhtet— about 12 or13. and they were surrounded by— about 12 or 13. and they were surrounded by these deranged oht— surrounded by these derangedj anti—ohuse surrounded by these deranged. anti—ohuse . anti brexiteers chanting abuse. it's anti brexiteers chanting abuse. its hot— anti brexiteers chanting abuse. its hot tuit— anti brexiteers chanting abuse. it's not fair on— anti brexiteers chanting abuse. it's not fair on a— anti brexiteers chanting abuse. it's not fair on a 12 year old boy — it's not fair on a 12 year old toy. to,— it's not fair on a 12 year old toy. to, its— it's not fair on a 12 year old boy. no, it's not— it's not fair on a 12 year old boy. no, it's not fair. regardless— boy. no, it's not fair. regardless of- boy. no, it's not fair. regardless of your. boy. no, it's not fair. regardless of your political viewpoint. and jacob, jacob is very— viewpoint. and jacob, jacob is very stoic— viewpoint. and jacob, jacob is very stoie .— viewpoint. and jacob, jacob is very stoic . that— viewpoint. and jacob, jacob is very stoic . that guy- , and jacob, jacob is very stoic . that guy could be 70 very stoic. that guy could be 70 old very stoic. that guy could be 70 oit enough— very stoic. that guy could be 70 oit enough to— very stoic. that guy could be 70 old enough to know better. very stoic. that guy could be 70 old enough to know better . “his old enough to know better. yes. extraordinary.— old enough to know better. yes. extraordinary. well,— old enough to know better. yes. extraordinary. well, jacob rees—mogg, of course, will be on your tv on gb news tonight at 8:00. and i imagine he's penning his monologue as we speak to tell you all about that. right, bushra? sir keir starmer has been accused of a cynical plot to rig future elections by reducing the voting age to 16 and also giving the vote to eu

citizens living here. what do you make of that ? two things you make of that? two things here. so— you make of that? two things here. so you-e— you make of that? two things here. so you've got- m7 two things here. so you've got trying to reused— here. so you've got trying to teueet the — here. so you've got trying to reduce the age,— here. so you've got trying to reduce the age, but i do believe that— reduce the age, but i do believe that perhaps— reduce the age, but i do believe that perhaps-still- that perhaps that's still is a tittie— that perhaps that's still is a tittie-youhg. - that perhaps that's still is a little-young. i- that perhaps that's still is a little young. i believe little bit too young. i believe you-e— little bit too young. i believe you-e got— little bit too young. i believe you-e got to— little bit too young. i believe you've got to have some level of sense—whot-sl you've got to have some level of sense on _what's. you've got to have some level of sense on.an-what's. you've got to have some level of sense on an individualiat's you've got to have some level of sense on an individual 16�*s going on for an individual 16 year— going on for an individual 16 year oits. — going on for an individual 16 year olds. oh,— going on for an individual 16 year olds. oh, i— going on for an individual 16 year olds. o" i year olds. oh, i know some. i thou— year olds. oh, i know some. i know some stupid— year olds. oh, i know some. i know some stupid 16.- year olds. o" i know some stupid 16. yeah, yeah, yeah. — know some stupid 16. yeah, yeah, yeah. lheoh— know some stupid 16. yeah, yeah, yeah. imean,lthink_ know some stupid 16. yeah, yeah, yeah. mean, think that's way yeah. i mean, i think that's way too—i— yeah. i mean, i think that's way too—i ooh— yeah. i mean, i think that's way too i can understand too young. but i can understand whot— too young. but i can understand uhot—to— too young. but i can understand uhot—toluith- too young. but i can understand what_to.with thei what he's trying to do with the tu. — what he's trying to do with the tu. .get— what he's trying to do with the tu. .get hot — what he's trying to do with the tu-get thot. i— what he's trying to do with the eu. get that. i believe eu. i do get that. i believe whot— eu. i do get that. i believe uhot hes— eu. i do get that. i believe what he's saying actually isn't ish-t—heohiel isn't right. i believe people who— isn't right. i believe people who howe— isn't right. i believe people who have supported the economy for who have supported the economy tot-time— who have supported the economy for-time should- who have supported the economy for-time should get- who have supported the economy for time should get the for a long time should get the vote,— for a long time should get the vote, even though, let's just say— vote, even though, let's just soy they-te— vote, even though, let's just soy they-re hot— vote, even though, let's just say they're not official. i? l; say they're not official. 2.5 miiiioh — say they're not official. 2.5 million. _it's- say they're not official. 2.5 million. _it's a- say they're not official. 2.5 million.-it's a back. say they're not official. 2.5 million. it's a back door million. yeah. it's a back door attempt, in my view, to get brexit back undone . and we would brexit back undone. and we would be the only country in europe to do this. no other country in the eu allows us, eu citizens who are not home—grown to vote in their elections. so why should we? because there is there is a question out there. we have people question out there. we have geogie thot— question out there. we have people that have— question out there. we have people that have been- t:i" we have people that have been a part of the eohoy— people that have been a part of the economy for— people that have been a part of the economy for more than 20 yeos— the economy for more than 20 yeos they— the economy for more than 20 yeos ihey oe— the economy for more than 20 years. they are married to british— years. they are married to british citizens— years. they are married to british citizens .- years. they are married to british citizens . they have british citizens. they have ehiitteh— british citizens. they have children at— british citizens. they have children at our— british citizens. they have children at our schools. they the— children at our schools. they the oes— children at our schools. they are the ones that— children at our schools. they are the ones that are saying

thot— are the ones that are saying thot why— are the ones that are saying thot why so— are the ones that are saying that why can we— are the ones that are saying that why can we not the that why can we not get the opportunity— that why can we not get the opportunity to— that why can we not get the opportunity to vote? because we hove— opportunity to vote? because we hove teen— opportunity to vote? because we have been here.— opportunity to vote? because we have been here. we may be have been here. we may not be ottisioi— have been here. we may not be official-citizens,- have been here. we may not be official citizens, but official british citizens, but we—il official british citizens, but. we—i we have contributed. so i can unterstont— we have contributed. so i can understand that. _ we have contributed. so i can understand that. so perhaps what hes— understand that. so perhaps what he-s soying— understand that. so perhaps what he-s soying here,— understand that. so perhaps what he's saying here, which i teiieve— he's saying here, which i believe when— he's saying here, which i believe when i- he's saying here, which i believe when i was reading into this— believe when i was reading into thislnoyhe— believe when i was reading into thislnoyhe it— believe when i was reading into this, maybe if you've done this, is maybe if you've done a sertoin— this, is maybe if you've done a sertoin-ot— this, is maybe if you've done a certain-of time- this, is maybe if you've done a certain of time and certain level of time and supportet— certain level of time and supported the- certain level of time and supported the economy maybe for 15 supported the economy maybe for it or— supported the economy maybe for it or zoo— supported the economy maybe for it or 20 yeors— supported the economy maybe for 15 or 20 years, that— supported the economy maybe for 15 or 20 years, that perhaps you get the— 15 or 20 years, that perhaps you get the vote. — 15 or 20 years, that perhaps you get the vote. i— 15 or 20 years, that perhaps you get the vote. i need- 15 or 20 years, that perhaps you get the vote. : ”c: r: get the vote. i need to remind people, of course, keir starmer who let them in in the first place and encouraged mass migration europe migration from eastern europe labour. he also labour. he did. but that's also not—its— labour. he did. but that's also not—its not,- labour. he did. but that's also not—its not, i- not a bad thing. it's not, i ton-t— not a bad thing. it's not, i don't believe— not a bad thing. it's not, i don't believe sort mass don't believe the sort of mass nigrotion—i- don't believe the sort of mass migration—i thinkj migration is the issue. i think if migration is the issue. i think it you-e— migration is the issue. i think if you've contributed to an esonoy— if you've contributed to an esonoy tor— if you've contributed to an economy for substantial amount if you've contributed to an ecrtime,( for substantial amount if you've contributed to an ecrtime,( for should:antial amount if you've contributed to an ecrtime,( for should:anti it. amount of time, you should get it. johnny— of time, you should get it. johnny immigration is definitively- johnny immigration is definitively a good thing if reguiotep— definitively a good thing if regulated, controlled . ' r: regulated, if controlled. and i think— regulated, if controlled. and i think thos— regulated, if controlled. and i think that was— regulated, if controlled. and i think that was the issue that's always the bugbear. i'm always been the bugbear. i'm going with the numbers going to go with the numbers that just mentioned, that you've just mentioned, andrew. read different andrew. i've read different numbers. 3.4 million citizens numbers. 3.4 million eu citizens settled status 2.6 are pre—settled who could potentially be fast tracked. that's now 6 million. yeah, 1.4 million kids between 16 and 18. i mean, that one really. i lose my head over that one. so we are

talking about potentially 7.5 million. add on to the franchise. we all know what blair and brown did with the open policy that brought open gate policy that brought that added. i think it was 3 million to the british population and deliberately the stats that that a government stats are that that a government that allows into a country that allows you into a country or gives you voting status 80 to 85% are literally guaranteed to vote for that government. so it does change the whole perspective. johnny, when the ruies— perspective. johnny, when the rules changed _ perspective. johnny, when the rules changed to— f johnny, when the rules changed to allow people tron— rules changed to allow people tron-mope— from eastern europe, the new newiy— from eastern europe, the new newiy-u. — from eastern europe, the new newiy-ulsonel newly enlarged u. to come into hritoin— newly enlarged u. to come into hritoin ont— newly enlarged u. to come into britain and-blair- newly enlarged u. to come into britain and blair was britain and the blair was ensouroget— britain and the blair was encouraged and advised by the tones— encouraged and advised by the iories ont— encouraged and advised by the tories and everybody else to bring— tories and everybody else to bring transitional bring in transitional arrangements . so there was arrangements. so there was restristions— arrangements. so there was restrictions many could restrictions on how many could some—thot-s- restrictions on how many could come _that's what. come in, because that's what hoppenet— come in, because that's what happened countries like happened in other countries like tonse— happened in other countries like tronse—tnewi france and germany. blair knew test.— france and germany. blair knew test—soot,- france and germany. blair knew best. _cook, the- best. and robin cook, the toreign— best. and robin cook, the toreign-hos- best. and robin cook, the foreign - has a l best. and robin cook, the- foreign-has a press foreign secretary, has a press conference-said- foreign secretary, has a press conference. said there'll conference. he said there'll oniy— conference. he said there'll oniylisooo— conference. he said there'll only-15,000 in- conference. he said there'll only 15,000 in first only be 15,000 in the first yeon— only be 15,000 in the first yeor. three— only be 15,000 in the first year. three quarters of a niiiion— year. three quarters of a niiiion in— year. three quarters of a million in year- year. three quarters of a million in year one. and they thew— million in year one. and they tnewlit— million in year one. and they tnewlit wos— million in year one. and they knew it was cynical ploy knew it. it was a cynical ploy to—sountry,- knew it. it was a cynical ploy to_country, which| knew it. it was a cynical ploy. to_country, which is to change the country, which is whot— to change the country, which is whot they-re— to change the country, which is what they're suggesting here. how— what they're suggesting here. howlsee— what they're suggesting here. nowlsee-starmer- what they're suggesting here. nowlsee-starmer hasn'tl now i see keir starmer hasn't confirmed denied this is confirmed or denied that this is his he's waiting his intention. he's waiting to see the of public see what the view of the public is. it is his intention, is. but if it is his intention, i've mp defend

i've seen one labour mp defend the they want to the plan. they want to strengthen our democracy . that strengthen our democracy. that that really sticks, isn't it? isn't isn't. the problem is that the— isn't isn't. the problem is that the youngsters— isn't isn't. the problem is that the youngsters and immigrants are the youngsters and immigrants ore—to— the youngsters and immigrants ore—to vote- the youngsters and immigrants are—to vote for- are more likely to vote for iohour. — are more likely to vote for iohour. so— are more likely to vote for labour. so this— are more likely to vote for labour. so this means that the iories— labour. so this means that the iories wouit— labour. so this means that the tories would just— labour. so this means that the tories would just have to work thot— tories would just have to work thot tittie— tories would just have to work that little-harder- that little bit harder to convince . because you know what convince. because you know what i convince. because you know what i wont— convince. because you know what i wont to— convince. because you know what i wont to see— convince. because you know what i wont to in— convince. because you know what i want to see in our— convince. because you know what i want to see in our voting? i wont— i want to see in our voting? i want more people- i want to see in our voting? i want more people to vote . that's want more people to vote. that's pari— want more people to vote. that's port-propen— want more people to vote. that's port-prohien-ite- part of the problem, isn't it? is disillusionment is political disillusionment and tetoshnent— is political disillusionment and detachment and— is political disillusionment and detachment and demoralisation. we detachment and demoralisation. ire howe— detachment and demoralisation. ire hove to— detachment and demoralisation. we have to work— detachment and demoralisation. we have to work hard. ash; we have to work hard. we have to oeurnrt— we have to work hard. we have to overturn votes of 7 million overturn the votes of 7 million new voters. i totally agree. you'd have to work obscenely hort. — you'd have to work obscenely hort. ant— you'd have to work obscenely hort. ant i— you'd have to work obscenely hard. and i don't— you'd have to work obscenely hard. and i don't think it's physisoiiy— hard. and i don't think it's physically possible. you're toiting— physically possible. you're talking about— physically possible. you're talking about elections iiteroiiy— talking about electionsi literally,-small talking about elections- literally,-small swing literally, that that small swing vote— literally, that that small swing wotelwhot— literally, that that small swing vote what determines whether vote is what determines whether you howe— vote is what determines whether you howelnotority— vote is what determines whether you have majority government you have a majority government or not— you have a majority government or notlyou-re— you have a majority government or notlyou-re in— you have a majority government or not you're in opposition. or not or you're in opposition. solmiuion— or not or you're in opposition. soimillion is— or not or you're in opposition. so million is anything but so 7 million is anything but a snott— so 7 million is anything but a snoii swing— so 7 million is anything but a small swing vote.— so 7 million is anything but a small swing vote. that's a massive-vote,- small swing vote. that's a massive vote, assuming they massive bloc vote, assuming they all massive bloc vote, assuming they oit-.— massive bloc vote, assuming they oit- hut— massive bloc vote, assuming they oit- hut heres— massive bloc vote, assuming they all-. but here's the- all vote. but here's the other issue-thinn— all vote. but here's the other issue, think andrew made issue, and i think andrew made the-point— issue, and i think andrew made the-point about- issue, and i think andrew made the point about you the valid point about how you sopoe— the valid point about how you sonporelto— the valid point about how you compare to countries, compare it to other countries, portisuioriy— compare it to other countries, portisuioriy in— compare it to other countries, particularly in the european. my brother—hos- brother lives in france, has tone— brother lives in france, has tone-zo— brother lives in france, has done .25 years. - brother lives in france, has done-25 years. i- brother lives in france, has done 25 years. i just gave done for 25 years. i just gave him— done for 25 years. i just gave him o— done for 25 years. i just gave him o guist— done for 25 years. i just gave him a quick call.— done for 25 years. i just gave him a quick call. he's been twing— him a quick call. he's been thing-ze— him a quick call. he's been living-25 years. - living there 25 years. he's stit— living there 25 years. he's still-citizen. -

living there 25 years. he's. still-citizen. . pays still a british citizen. he pays too.— still a british citizen. he pays tow-o— still a british citizen. he pays tax.-a resident.- still a british citizen. he paysi tax.-a resident. he's tax. he's been a resident. he's oiiowet— tax. he's been a resident. he's oiiowet to— tax. he's been a resident. he's allowed to vote— tax. he's been a resident. he's allowed to vote in— tax. he's been a resident. he's allowed to vote in a local eiestion— allowed to vote in a local election,-never- allowed to vote in a local election, never has allowed to vote in a local- election,-never has done election, but he never has done hesouse— because he doesn't think he's got— because he doesn't think he's got-hut— because he doesn't think he's got-hutlhos- because he doesn't think he's got-but.has thei got the right. but he has the ego— got the right. but he has the iegoi right.— got the right. but he has the legal right-is— got the right. but he has the legal right. is not allowed legal right. he is not allowed to vote— legal right. he is not allowed to vote in— legal right. he is not allowed to vote in-senate,- legal right. he is not allowed to vote in senate, which is to vote in the senate, which is hosisoiiy— to vote in the senate, which is basically-general- to vote in the senate, which is basically general election basically the general election or the— basically the general election or the presidential election. ihot-s— or the presidential election. that's-that's - or the presidential election. that's-that's a- or the presidential election. that's that's a country that's france. that's a country thot— that's france. that's a country thot tore— that's france. that's a country that tore down _ that's france. that's a country that tore down louis, the whotever— that tore down louis, the whatever the _ that tore down louis, the whatever the emperor . i mean, whatever the emperor. i mean, you— whatever the emperor. i mean, you know,— whatever the emperor. i mean, you know, the— whatever the emperor. i mean, you know, the ultimate socialist sountry— you know, the ultimate socialist sountry. even— you know, the ultimate socialist country. even they— you know, the ultimate socialist country. even they don't give those— country. even they don't give those sort— country. even they don't give those sort ot— country. even they don't give those sort of rights. exactly hut— those sort of rights. exactly hut i— those sort of rights. exactly hut i to— those sort of rights. exactly but i do think— those sort of rights. exactly but i do think about- those sort of rights. exactly but i do think about the- those sort of rights. exactly but i do think about the 16 year olds. that's quite interesting, bushra, because want see bushra, because i want to see a more engaged more politically engaged electorate growing, growing up and growing forward . and maybe and growing forward. and maybe at thrill of being 16, at 16, the thrill of being 16, you go and vote and then the parties have to start parties have to then start appealing to those youngsters as well don't get to in well who don't get spoken to in elections at all. fair point. ant— elections at all. fair point. ant i— elections at all. fair point. and i believe— elections at all. fair point. and i believe that's- f fair point. and i believe that's really inportont— and i believe that's really important for— and i believe that's really important for our kind of youngsters— youngsters to understand why it's youngsters to understand why its—vote- youngsters to understand why its—vote .- youngsters to understand why it's—vote . the. it's important to vote. the issue— it's important to vote. the issuelthot— it's important to vote. the issue-that a— it's important to vote. the issue-that a lot- it's important to vote. the issue that a lot of 16 year issue is that a lot of 16 year oits— issue is that a lot of 16 year oits oe— issue is that a lot of 16 year oits not— issue is that a lot of 16 year olds are not interested, right. this— olds are not interested, right. this-were— olds are not interested, right. this-we-re-soi this is what we're saying. so how— this is what we're saying. so how to— this is what we're saying. so how to we— this is what we're saying. so how to we get— this is what we're saying. so how do we get them involved in the votinge— how do we get them involved in the voting? how— how do we get them involved in the voting? how we make them the voting? how do we make them unterstont— the voting? how do we make them understand—the- understand that these are the ponies— understand that these are the ponies-ore- parties and these are the poiisies— parties and these are the policies _what| parties and these are the- policies _what we're policies and this is what we're setting— policies and this is what we'rei setting _toes setting out. so maybe he does

hove— setting out. so maybe he does hove o— setting out. so maybe he does hove o-iioyhe- setting out. so maybe he does have a-maybe it's- setting out. so maybe he does have a maybe it's a point have a point. maybe it's a point ohout— have a point. maybe it's a point ohout getting— have a point. maybe it's a point about getting them involved. veoh. — about getting them involved. veoh. -ny— about getting them involved. veoh. -nny son— about getting them involved. yeah. _my son was- about getting them involved. yeah. _my son was this. about getting them involved. i yeah. _my son was this age, yeah. when my son was this age, his was state his school, which was a state school they an school in bath, they ran an election during the national day. own, got the day. they ran their own, got the kids all to vote. and i think that's great engage the that's a great way to engage the idea , though, that you're idea, though, that you're actually give vote actually going to give the vote , the actual vote to people that are not allowed to drive the people allowed to. people that are not allowed to. well, can't married. well, they can't get married. you get you know you can't get married. you know , i get my head around , i can't get my head around that they do of that. that. they can't do any of that. but can give them to but we can give them a vote to determine the and also, but we can give them a vote to detedon'tt the and also, but we can give them a vote to detedon't trust and also, but we can give them a vote to detedon't trust them and also, but we can give them a vote to detedon't trust them to nd also, but we can give them a vote to detedon't trust them to nd alsa. you don't trust them to have a credit card, they can vote. credit card, but they can vote. and will they do? they and what will they do? will they vote — and what will they do? will they vote hesouse— and what will they do? will they vote because - and - and what will they do? will they vote because and dad says, vote because mum and dad says, you-ii— vote because mum and dad says, you-ii-this— vote because mum and dad says, you'll-thislwill- you'll vote for this or will they— you'll vote for this or will. they—one you'll vote for this or will- they—ont tote they actually say mum and dad? if they actually say mum and dad? it-pot— they actually say mum and dad? it-pot soy— they actually say mum and dad? it-pot soy vote- they actually say mum and dad? if-dad say vote x,- if mum and dad say vote x, they-re— if mum and dad say vote x, they-re going— if mum and dad say vote x, they're going vote y 100, they're going to vote y 100, thot— they're going to vote y 100, thot-thot. - they're going to vote y 100, that-that. also,| they're going to vote y 100,- that-that. also, you that definitely that. also, you know.— that definitely that. also, you know. we— that definitely that. also, you know, we actually still have adult, actually have adult, we actually still have adults vote. adults that don't go and vote. that's mean. let's get that's what i mean. let's get those peopie— " let's get those people, teenagers those people, even teenagers this—tiggest- those people, even teenagers- this_biggest change this would be the biggest change in-voting— this would be the biggest change in .voting system _ this would be the biggest change in voting system since 1928, in the voting system since 1928, when— in the voting system since 1928, when oii— in the voting system since 1928, when all women— in the voting system since 1928, when all women got the vote. hesouse— when all women got the vote. hesouse-reis— when all women got the vote. i because-1918-women because from 1918 it was women under age of 30. then they under the age of 30. then they changed it to 21 for everyone that was a massive and hugely

important step . this would be a important step. this would be a retrograde step. totally retrograde step. i totally agree. and i think we all need to go— agree. and i think we all need to go ont— agree. and i think we all need to go and watch— eighznz; and i think we all need to go and watch brewster's iiiiiions— to go and watch brewster's millions, the _ to go and watch brewster's millions, the movie you millions, the movie where you not— millions, the movie where you hot—put- millions, the movie where you hot—put nonel millions, the movie where you had—put none of| had the option to put none of the— had the option to put none of the-thot-s— had the option to put none of the-that's-we. had the option to put none of. the-that's-we need the above. that's what we need to-yeoh.— the above. that's what we need to-yeoh. then- the above. that's what we need to-yeah. then if- the above. that's what we need to yeah. then if you to do. oh yeah. then if you ton-t— to do. oh yeah. then if you ton-t-up— to do. oh yeah. then if you ton-t-up-you- to do. oh yeah. then if you don't up you don't to do. oh yeah. then if you- don't-up-you don't tick don't turn up and you don't tick ot— don't turn up and you don't tick ot those— don't turn up and you don't tick one of those boxes,— don't turn up and you don't tick one of those boxes, the old hut— one of those boxes, the old excuse. but i— one of those boxes, the old excuse. but i don't any of excuse. but i don't like any of then.— excuse. but i don't like any of then—thw- excuse. but i don't like any of them._tick. none. excuse. but i don't like any ofi them._tick. none of them. well, then tick. none of them. well, then tick. none of the-it— them. well, then tick. none of the-it you— them. well, then tick. none of the-if you don't- them. well, then tick. none of the if you don't turn up, the above. if you don't turn up, get-iite— the above. if you don't turn up, get-tine they— the above. if you don't turn up, get-like they do- the above. if you don't turn up, get like they do doing get fined like they do doing otstet— get fined like they do doing ofsted - people - get fined like they do doing. ofsted - people - say ofsted that to people who say they—90 i ofsted that to people who say they—go toi ofsted that to people who say. they—go to the they won't vote. they go to the ballot make ballot paper and make your protest saying none. it's not protest by saying none. it's not illegal. it's a very good thing and counted. the illegal. it's a very good thing and of counted. the illegal. it's a very good thing and of aboved. the illegal. it's a very good thing and of above .. the illegal. it's a very good thing and of above . they the illegal. it's a very good thing and of above . they aree none of the above. they are counted. okay. right . new report counted. okay. right. new report toiting— counted. okay. right. new report talking-teenagers— f: (jo/tag right. new report talking teenagers suggests talking of teenagers suggests thot— talking of teenagers suggests thot notority— talking of teenagers suggests that majority of— talking of teenagers suggests that majority of teenagers know someone at school. 1 in 10 hushro— someone at school. 1 in 10 bushra that— someone at school. 1 in 10 bushra that want to change their gender — bushra that want to change their gender. massive.— bushra that want to change their gender. massive. this- bushra that want to change their gender. " gender. massive. this is this is absolutely this is so bizarre to me because i already know how much the social sort of influence or let's say the power that schools have at the moment with sort of sex education and how they're teaching our children. i know a lot of people say that, you know, this is a woke agenda, but this for me is

quite concerning because i already there is a already know that there is a link your your, let's say, link to your your, let's say, sexul identity or your gender. there is a mental health link to this. so what i'm questioning now is , is it too much that now is, is it too much that schools are doing because i've got children and they do come back to me and they say, mum, this so the this is what's happening. so the fact think it's fact that we have i think it's like 50, 50% at the moment, which a huge, huge number. which is a huge, huge number. where this from? where did this come from? bushra from it's just bushra it's come from it's just this—the- bushra it's come from it's just. this—the-ot this whole reform of the kind of sex education— this whole reform of the kind of sex education that's being pushed— sex education that's being pushet in— sex education that's being pushed in the— sex education that's being pushed in the schools. g f pushed in the schools. it's come tron— pushed in the schools. it's come tron o— pushed in the schools. it's come tron to very— pushed in the schools. it's come tron to very sort— pushed in the schools. it's come from a very sort of permissive attitude towards children. johnny and that nobody johnny and the fact that nobody can to a child anymore, can say no to a child anymore, i think it's and also it's about children, you know, children in care who have been in care are very overair presented in the statistics around transgender transitioning . so there is a tie transitioning. so there is a tie with mental a mental health condition , but we're not in condition, but we're not in terms of attachment aren't maybe or depression . and so i think or depression. and so i think there's too many teenagers who think i don't like my life for

whatever reason. young trauma existing or, you know, i don't like my life. the solution will be i'll become a different genden be i'll become a different gender. and there surrounded then by teachers, social workers, psychotherapists, saying yes , we agree and we saying yes, we agree and we can't say no to you. we can't question it. and this is what's going to this is going to make you not. so my you happy. and it may not. so my first reaction to all this is i'm horrified that parents have no input seem to have minimal no input or seem to have minimal to little to no input in terms of what is being taught to their children, what is being discussed and your your point, which are about the sex education that's going on in schools. i'd be horrified if a young— schools. i'd be horrified if a young-ot— schools. i'd be horrified if a young-or nine- schools. i'd be horrified if a young-of mine was- f i'd be horrified if a young of mine was being young child of mine was being exposed— young child of mine was being exposet to— young child of mine was being exposet to-on- young child of mine was being exposed to an age when i exposed to this at an age when i think— exposed to this at an age when i think its— exposed to this at an age when i think it's completely age inappropriate— think it's completely age inappropriate . i also agree with inappropriate. i also agree with you thot— inappropriate. i also agree with you thot thot— inappropriate. i also agree with you that that there is a very worrying— you that that there is a very worrying connection between shiitren— worrying connection between shiitren in— worrying connection between children in care,— worrying connection between children in care, children from singie— children in care, children from singie se— children in care, children from single sex families , from single single sex families, from single potent— single sex families, from single parent families. _ single sex families, from single parent families. sorry i am concerned about the mental heoith— concerned about the mental health issues.— concerned about the mental health issues. it— concerned about the mental health issues. it seems to me thot— health issues. it seems to me thot its— health issues. it seems to me that it's something that we so ton-t— that it's something that we so don't understand— that it's something that we so don't understand and are not on top ot— don't understand and are not on top or why— don't understand and are not on top or why oe— don't understand and are not on top or why we— don't understand and are not on

top of why are we allowing such signitisont— top of why are we allowing such significant decisions to be made untit— significant decisions to be made untii sush— significant decisions to be made until such time— significant decisions to be made until such time as— significant decisions to be made until such time as we do understand— until such time as we do understand it,- until such time as we do understand it, until we've done anu— understand it, until we've done more. and johnny,— understand it, until we've done more. ' my more. and johnny, we've talked on this program before. we've heard from saying teachers heard from you saying teachers are home, are calling parents at home, saying is now saying your child is now identifying x. how is that identifying as x. how is that allowed in the school without the parents consent or discussion ? don't you think it's discussion? don't you think it's ironic teachers aren't ironic that teachers aren't allowed anything when it allowed to do anything when it comes of comes to any kind of disciplining of a child, and yet they're allowed to make statements to statements like that to a parent? in scotland and just parent? and in scotland and just we're seeing bit more of. we're just seeing a bit more of. i can't wait. rishi i bet you can't wait. rishi sunak off now sunak taking his jacket off now . he's getting all cool now. rishi sunak with with zelenskyy in war fatigues. they're in his war fatigues. they're wandering around the grounds of chequers. it's a nice chequers. they are. it's a nice image. luckily chequers. they are. it's a nice image . luckily we changed the image. luckily we changed the stop— image. luckily we changed the strop—soitl image. luckily we changed the. strop—soit nost strap underneath which said most tronsgenters— strap underneath which said most transgenders, but— strap underneath which said most transgenders, but most teenagers hove—trients- transgenders, but most teenagers have—friends. as- transgenders, but most teenagers have _friends. as we. transgenders, but most teenagers havethese friends. as we transgenders, but most teenagers havethese together. ;. as we transgenders, but most teenagers havethese together. thatwe transgenders, but most teenagers havethese together. that was saw these two together. that was not toiting— saw these two together. that was not talking about— saw these two together. that was not talking about zelenskyy and sunot. — not talking about zelenskyy and sunot. -oe— not talking about zelenskyy and sunak. are walking sunak. here they are walking through— sunak. here they are walking through through chequers. the goruens— through through chequers. the gardens-amazing- through through chequers. the gardens-amazing at- through through chequers. the gardens amazing at chequers gardens are amazing at chequers actually, and it's a great thrill zelenskyy. but you thrill for zelenskyy. but you can see rishi will milk this for all can. who's going to be all he can. who's going to be worrying about what the home

secretary is saying about conference secretary is saying about conf do nce not think this is and do you not think this man is going— and do you not think this man is goinglshonge— and do you not think this man is going change whole going to change the whole sonsept— going to change the wholei sonsept—he-s concept of leadership? he's oiwoys—greenl always in his khaki green. he toots— always in his khaki green. he hooks-o— always in his khaki green. he toots-o-ot- always in his khaki green. he looks a of business always in his khaki green. he- looks-a-of business and looks like a man of business and the—hos- looks like a man of business and the—has described| the prime minister has described him-new— the prime minister has described him-new winston- him as the new winston churchill. _ him as the new winston churchill. \ic“'i’ him as the new winston churchill. visitor” cc him as the new winston- churchill. now, that will offend some will cause some people, but it will cause a great debate. a great great debate. it's a great distraction, think. zelenskyy great debate. it's a great distiterrific think. zelenskyy great debate. it's a great distiterrific warink. zelenskyy great debate. it's a great distiterrific war leader.enskyy great debate. it's a great distiterrific war leader . ikyy is a terrific war leader. i can't agree more. a great communicator is 100% an and you know what? he's real. and i think— know what? he's real. and i think thot-s— know what? he's real. and i think that's what— 7 he's real. and i think that's what people relate to. whether— think that's what people relate to. whether they're british peopie. — to. whether they're british peopie. anu— to. whether they're british people. and it's- to. whether they're british people. r: to. whether they're british people. 'r: g g to. whether they're british- people. and it'slit's a great people. and it's a it's a great relief the prime minister relief that the prime minister has temptation has resisted the temptation like he try to dress he did before, to try to dress like zelenskyy in his helmet and his fatigues. looked i'm his fatigues. he looked i'm afraid look a bit afraid it did look a bit ridiculous ridiculous a ridiculous. ridiculous is a better . do you trust him, better word. do you trust him, hushro— better word. do you trust him, hushro ,— better word. do you trust him, hushro , i— better word. do you trust him, hushro , i to,— better word. do you trust him, bushra , i no, i— better word. do you trust him, bushra , i no, i don't.- : do you trust him, bushra , i no, i don't. you don't bushra, i no, i don't. you don't trust— bushra, i no, i don't. you don't trust zelenskyy?— bushra, i no, i don't. you don't trust zelenskyy? i— bushra, i no, i don't. you don't trust zelenskyy? i don't. me neither. — trust zelenskyy? i don't. me neither. he.— trust zelenskyy? i don't. me neither. no, there- trust zelenskyy? i don't. me neither. \ttit stiii g trust zelenskyy? i don't. me neither. \ttit sti”ti g trust zelenskyy? i don't. me neither. \tit g neither. no, there isn't a lot less. yes, neither. no, there isn't a lot less . yes, but neither. no, there isn't a lot less. yes, but i think- neither. no, there isn't a lot less. yes, but i think .- neither. \tit g yes, but i think . i don't less. yes, but i think. i don't think— less. yes, but i think. i don't think i— less. yes, but i think. i don't think i think— less. yes, but i think. i don't think i think this— yes, but i think. i don't think i think this this war has teen— think i think this this war has been depicted— think i think this this war has been depicted as— think i think this this war has been depicted as good versus evii— been depicted as good versus evn, hiost— been depicted as good versus evil, black versus— been depicted as good versus evil, black versus white. and it is tuit— evil, black versus white. and it is tuii ot— evil, black versus white. and it is full of nuance— evil, black versus white. and it is full of nuance and grey. vent.— is full of nuance and grey. veoh. it— is full of nuance and grey. veoh. it is. — is full of nuance and grey. yeah, it is. and— is full of nuance and grey. yeah, it is. and i— is full of nuance and grey. yeah, it is. and i think- is full of nuance and grey. yeah, it is. and i think it's very, very easy. i mean, for me, just to kind of look at his history where comes from

history and where he comes from and was appointed and all and how he was appointed and all of that for me is a very of that, that for me is a very grey area even now. and i do question very casual question this very casual demeanour zelenskyy i demeanour that zelenskyy has. i like that are like i like people that are running also like i like people that are runningand also like i like people that are runningand project also like i like people that are runningand project themselves portray and project themselves as people of authority as people of men of authority and i don't feel like he has that. but, but you know the pr, pr that. but, but you know the pr, hit hrozier— that. but, but you know the pr, pr brazier look,— that. but, but you know the pr, pr brazier look, he— but, but you know the pr, pr brazier look, he stayed in ky...— pr brazier look, he stayed in kyiv, whish— pr brazier look, he stayed in kyiv, whish is— pr brazier look, he stayed in kyiv, which is being bombed. hes— kyiv, which is being bombed. he-s-ioty-s- kyiv, which is being bombed. he's-lady's there. kyiv, which is being bombed. he's lady's there too. he's the first lady's there too. t hey— he's the first lady's there too. they never— he's the first lady's there too. they never there. _ he's the first lady's there too. they never there. he's always he's the first lady's there too. they |ph0t01here. he's always he's the first lady's there too. they |ph0t0 shootsie's always he's the first lady's there too. they |photo shoots around ays he's the first lady's there too. they |photo shoots around the doing photo shoots around the worm— doing photo shoots around the world _ awards, l world and attending awards, gening— world and attending awards, getting—teee- world and attending awards, getting—lots ofi getting he's getting lots of international— getting he's getting lots of international support. exactly. ane— international support. exactly. and—ef— international support. exactly. and—of ukraine's. and the success of ukraine's defence own country. defence of their own country. you about it being black you talk about it being black and white guys. living and white guys. if you're living in out city, your in a bombed out city, your infrastructure being infrastructure is being destroyed an invader, a destroyed by an invader, by a so—called friendly neighbour, which is the world's very black and the world's greatest and white, the world's greatest nuclear power. let's not forget russia— nuclear power. let's not forget rueeie .— nuclear power. let's not forget rueeie . n— nuclear power. let's not forget rueeie . n-ie— nuclear power. let's not forget russia. it-is. .have. nuclear power. let's not forgeti russia. it-is. .have to russia. it really is. we have to seep— russia. it really is. we have to step the— russia. it really is. we have to step eee men— russia. it really is. we have to stop this man, putin, winning in ukraine,— stop this man, putin, winning in ukraine, bee— stop this man, putin, winning in ukraine, but also— stop this man, putin, winning in ukraine, but also bear in mind thee— ukraine, but also bear in mind that me— ukraine, but also bear in mind that the russians— ukraine, but also bear in mind that the russians living in the ease— that the russians living in the east of— that the russians living in the east of ukraine— that the russians living in the east of ukraine were being bombed— east of ukraine were being bombed by— east of ukraine were being bombed by zelenskyy for eight years— bombed by zelenskyy for eight yeere up— bombed by zelenskyy for eight yeere up unm— bombed by zelenskyy for eight years up until it— bombed by zelenskyy for eight years up until it took this turn for years up until it took this turn fer the— years up until it took this turn for the were— years up until it took this turn for the worst . _ years up until it took this turn for the worst . but- years up until it took this turn for the worst . a) "c; for the worst. but anyway, we're clearly not going to we're not

going to solve this here and now today, are we.7 we were going to solve this here and now today, are we? we were talking ebeee— today, are we? we were talking about me— today, are we? we were talking about the trans— today, are we? we were talking about the trans issue- : mi; , we were talking about the trans issue in seemed.— about the trans issue in scotland. one- about the trans issue in scotland. one of the reasons leek,— scotland. one of the reasons leek, we— scotland. one of the reasons look, we - know- scotland. one of the reasons look, we know why sturgeon look, we now know why sturgeon went. — look, we now know why sturgeon went. n— look, we now know why sturgeon went. n wee— look, we now know why sturgeon went. it was - money, - look, we now know why sturgeon went. it was money, stupid went. it was the money, stupid corruption— went. it was the money, stupid corruption-e— went. it was the money, stupid corruption-a great- went. it was the money, stupid corruption a great scale corruption on a great scale going— corruption on a great scale geing en— corruption on a great scale going on there,— corruption on a great scale going on there, we think, but eee—thee- going on there, we think, but also _that clever| going on there, we think, buti also _that clever , also how did she that clever, astute— also how did she that clever, astute woman,— also how did she that clever, astute woman, get herself into position— astute woman, get herself into position wm.— astute woman, get herself into position with this— astute woman, get herself into position with this bill position with this trans bill where— position with this trans bill where children— position with this trans bill where children could start at the— where children could start at the ege— where children could start at the ege eh— where children could start at the age of he— where children could start at the age of 15 without telling their— the age of 15 without telling their parents— the age of 15 without telling their parents transitioning, the age of 15 without telling their paretheiransitioning, the age of 15 without telling their paretheir gender? ], the age of 15 without telling their paretheir gender? il�*lg changing their gender? my only view— changing their gender? my only on this— changing their gender? my only view on this is— changing their gender? my only view on this is everything nicola sturgeon has done in throughout her time as leader has been about creating the end result of independence . so result of independence. so therefore, somehow, somewhere someone's advised her this is a good move towards that end. personally i think it's madness. i don't see i think she misread the tone of the country. my girlfriend scottish. yeah admittedly she absolutely hates her and her party, but the evidence suggests that scotland is the least likely to have supported a policy like that in the united kingdom. yeah, i, i want to the united kingdom. yeah, i, i went he qwhehv— the united kingdom. yeah, i, i want to quickly insert- "c12 3: yeah, i, i want to quickly insert something which— want to quickly insert something which .— want to quickly insert something which i totally— want to quickly insert something which i totally agree with the how— which i totally agree with the tory ww— which i totally agree with the tory tory wh— which i totally agree with the tory tory hh ,— which i totally agree with the tory tory mp , miriam cates.

tory tory mp, miriam cates. she saw— tory tory mp, miriam cates. she saw this— tory tory mp, miriam cates. she said this really— tory tory mp, miriam cates. she said this really ,— tory tory mp, miriam cates. she said this really , really well. said this really, really well. she said that this is a psychological and social experiment that is being run in schools at the moment with the whole trans ideology in this sex education and this is extremely worrying and we need to be concerned about it. she is one of the meet— concerned about it. she is one of the most outspoken.- ff: . she is one of the most outspoken. she's one of the most outspoken. she's one of the— of the most outspoken. she's one of the brightest— of the most outspoken. she's one of the brightest tory. she is. she— of the brightest tory. she is. she he— of the brightest tory. she is. she he whv— of the brightest tory. she is. she is why she— of the brightest tory. she is. she is why she isn't a minister, ehhewgh— she is why she isn't a minister, although thank— she is why she isn't a minister, although thank god she isn't, because— although thank god she isn't, heeewee she— although thank god she isn't, because she wouldn't be able to say because she wouldn't be able to sew eh— because she wouldn't be able to sew eh these— because she wouldn't be able to say all these things. ' : say all these things. and also, just— say all these things. and also, just remember as well that this is profitable is an incredibly profitable industry. you can put industry. if you can put somebody life as somebody on drugs for life as a transgender person, you on transgender person, you are on the subscription model. it is incredibly profitable. so it is important anybody that is important that anybody that is thatis important that anybody that is that is caught up in this maelstrom of worrying about their own identity, clearly requires support. what's hehhehhg— requires support. what's happening is— 3: ”35 what's happening is taking ”3: ”35 what's happening is taking that ”33 ”3s what's happening is taking that support to happening is taking that support he the— happening is taking that support he hhe hhh— happening is taking that support to the nth degree,— happening is taking that support to the nth degree, which is in my wew— to the nth degree, which is in my he— to the nth degree, which is in my view, is completely wrong. huh— my view, is completely wrong. huh hhehe— my view, is completely wrong. but there has— my view, is completely wrong. but there has to— my view, is completely wrong. but there has to be sympathy and wheehehehehe— but there has to be sympathy and understanding and— but there has to be sympathy and understanding and support. but wheh— understanding and support. but wheh he— understanding and support. but what is happening is just taking it a what is happening is just taking hhle heveh— what is happening is just taking itla level that— what is happening is just taking itla level that i— what is happening is just taking it a level that i think is it to a level that i think is going— it to a level that i think is going he— it to a level that i think is going he he— it to a level that i think is going to be incredibly, eehehehehv— going to be incredibly, completely you. going to be incredibly,- completely-you. johnny completely with you. johnny just a completely with you. johnny just e-heve— completely with you. johnny just

a have on the a joy to have you on the program. i'm not going to program. yes. i'm not going to come again just because agree come again just because i agree with no, agree. with a lot of no, no, i agree. no, often disagree. and no, people often disagree. and that's fun. we that's just as much fun. we don't here. right. bushra don't mind here. right. bushra shehhh— don't mind here. right. bushra shehhh johnny— don't mind here. right. bushra sheikh, johnny gould,- 3 c 3 "33 right. bushra sheikh, johnny gould, to sheikh, johnny gould, great to have—morning] sheikh, johnny gould, great toj have—morning. it have you here this morning. it hee— have you here this morning. it hee-veh— have you here this morning. it hee-veh eeehh- have you here this morning. it has yet again. coming has flown by yet again. coming up has flown by yet again. coming we—hve- has flown by yet again. coming we—hve whhhl up next is gb news live with wew— up next is gb news live with mark longhurst._ up next is gb news live with mark longhurst. this has been to the mark longhurst. this has been to hhe—ahehew— mark longhurst. this has been to the _andrew-bevl the point with andrew and bev. were— the point with andrew and bev. we're-tomorrow- the point with andrew and bev. we're tomorrow 930. see we're back tomorrow at 930. see you— we're back tomorrow at 930. see vew-whee— we're back tomorrow at 930. see you _alex deakin - we're back tomorrow at 930. see you-alex deakin here- we're back tomorrow at 930. seei you _alex deakin here with you then. alex deakin here with your the met your latest weather from the met office gb news. a fine office for gb news. a fine bright day most today with bright day for most today with sunny not sunny spells, but it's not particularly warm out there. and there a heavy showers there are a few heavy showers around of scotland around across parts of scotland and eastern england. we have this weather moving this weather front moving across the last night. high the country. last night. high pressure is toppling in behind, bringing plenty of fine weather certainly to the west. but as i said, there are a few showers around . we've seen some across around. we've seen some across scotland and few more breaking around. we've seen some across sconowi and few more breaking around. we've seen some across sconow across few more breaking around. we've seen some across sconow across partsnore breaking around. we've seen some across sconow across parts of'e breaking around. we've seen some across sconow across parts of eastern ng out now across parts of eastern england. could be 1 or 2 heavy ones, possibly even a rumble of thunder. but much of wales, the midlands, south west england , midlands, south west england, northern ireland and the west coast scotland dry coast of scotland staying dry and even the east and bright. and even in the east you easily dodge the you could easily dodge the showers and have a bit of sunshine. it's not warm. we

sunshine. but it's not warm. we might squeak up to 1918 degrees, but generally temperatures only in the mid teens and feeling cooler when the showers come along they'll still be a along and they'll still be a few of showers around of those showers around this evening of northeast evening over parts of northeast england, . but they do england, especially. but they do fade away by midnight and then most places become dry and clear before more cloud spills into northern later on. northern scotland. later on. quite a chilly night, actually. temperatures well down into single figures . pockets of frost single figures. pockets of frost can't completely ruled out in can't be completely ruled out in some sheltered parts of the countryside. fresh start to countryside. so a fresh start to tuesday for sure, but generally a fine day for england and wales cloud coming into northern scotland. quite a grey day scotland. it's quite a grey day here some rain here with some patchy rain trickling the trickling down towards the central belt and southern scotland on, perhaps scotland later on, perhaps clouding touch clouding over a touch in northern ireland. but the far north actually brighten up north may actually brighten up the coming down from the the winds coming down from the north. a bit of a north. so still a bit of a chilly feel. temperatures again generally around and or a touch below average. highest probably generally around and or a touch bethe average. highest probably generally around and or a touch bethe south,e. highest probably generally around and or a touch bethe south, 18 highest probably generally around and or a touch bethe south, 18 orjhest probably generally around and or a touch bethe south, 18 or 19 st probably generally around and or a touch bethe south, 18 or 19 celsius.bly in the south, 18 or 19 celsius. it stays fine across the south dunng it stays fine across the south during tuesday evening. 1 or 2

showers still across southern scotland and northern england at this stage. but the high pressure is pressure we saw earlier is generally in control through much this so bucha the much of this week. so bucha the odd here and there , much odd shower here and there, much of the week will be dry and bright it will start bright and slowly it will start to feel just a little bit warmer as well. goodbye .

it's 12 noon. a very good - it's 12 noon. a very good ehhehheeh— - it's 12 noon. a very good ehhehheeh — . it's 12 noon. a very good afternoon. if— . it's 12 noon. a very good afternoon. if you're- it's 12 noon. a very good afternoon. if you're with gb newe— afternoon. if you're with gb wewe hve— afternoon. if you're with gb news live, i'm— afternoon. if you're with gb news live, i'm mark longhurst. ahe— news live, i'm mark longhurst. ahe eehhe— news live, i'm mark longhurst. ahe eehhe we— news live, i'm mark longhurst. and coming up for— news live, i'm mark longhurst. and coming up for this and coming up for you this weheev— and coming up for you this monday lunchtime, my friend hhhh— monday lunchtime, my friend rishi zelenskyy— monday lunchtime, my friend rishi zelenskyy gives sunak a big hug— rishi zelenskyy gives sunak a big hug ee— rishi zelenskyy gives sunak a big hug as he— rishi zelenskyy gives sunak a big hug as the prime minister eeheeee hhe— big hug as the prime minister compares the ukrainian leader to when— compares the ukrainian leader to winston churchill.— compares the ukrainian leader to winston churchill. and he says the winston churchill. and he says hhe wh— winston churchill. and he says hhe eh he— winston churchill. and he says the uk is steadfast in its approach— the uk is steadfast in its approach eee— the uk is steadfast in its approach and its support. but as the approach and its support. but as hhe wh— approach and its support. but as the uk promises— approach and its support. but as the uk promises a— approach and its support. but as the uk promises a big delivery of the uk promises a big delivery eh ew— the uk promises a big delivery of new weaponry,— the uk promises a big delivery of new weaponry, a warning to he— of new weaponry, a warning to hheh hhheh— of new weaponry, a warning to that britain cannot empty its eweheehee— that britain cannot empty its eweheehee eh— that britain cannot empty its cupboards of military hardware and cupboards of military hardware end he— cupboards of military hardware and the prime— cupboards of military hardware and the prime minister seems to be

and the prime minister seems to he whhhe— and the prime minister seems to he whhhe ewh— and the prime minister seems to be running out of— and the prime minister seems to be running out of friends in