very good afternoon, everybody. it's very good afternoon, everybody. n-s just— very good afternoon, everybody. n-s just gone— very good afternoon, everybody. n-s just gone a— very good afternoon, everybody. it's just gone 3 pm. you're with— it's just gone 3 pm. you're wttt me— it's just gone 3 pm. you're with me, patrick- it's just gone 3 pm. you're with me, patrick christys, right hete— with me, patrick christys, right tete on— with me, patrick christys, right tete on et— with me, patrick christys, right here on gb news.— with me, patrick christys, right here on gb news. and here's what-t— here on gb news. and here's whats on— here on gb news. and here's what's on the— here on gb news. and here's what's on the agenda for this tout— what's on the agenda for this tout . — what's on the agenda for this tout. now.— what's on the agenda for this hour. now, in— what's on the agenda for this hour. now, in the- what's on the agenda for this hour. xtjtttt " hour. now, in the last few minutes, actually, some breaking news about suella braverman has dropped apparently the dropped that apparently the cabinet but one

cabinet have blocked all but one of plans, why she's of her plans, which is why she's so talking out and so angry and talking out and saying like this, why saying stuff like this, why people shouldn't feel guilt. we'll about that we'll be talking about that throughout of this throughout the course of this show. back in show. prince harry back in court. prince harry versus court. yes, prince harry versus the office, about his the home office, all about his security. do you think that betty— security. do you think that bobby should— security. do you think that bobby should-offl security. do you think that. bobby should-off the bobby should be taken off the teat— bobby should be taken off the beatlguard_ bobby should be taken off the beat guard prince harry? beat to guard prince harry? stttttn-t— beat to guard prince harry? shouldn't they— beat to guard prince harry? shouldn't they be- beat to guard prince harry? shouldn't they be dealing with stabbings? et cetera. in other news, going news, rules are going to be talking lot this. yes, talking a lot about this. yes, passport fraudsters mark white is to the studio is going to be in the studio telling you how a group of criminals basically to criminals basically managed to abuse our passport system. and finally, this hour, this finally, for us, this hour, this was controversial. okay. is it fair to say that men and women who are married should stay together for the sake of the kids and that that is where the fabnc kids and that that is where the fabric of our society is built on that has offended people in same sex couples, is also offended. people who have got tttorcet— offended. people who have got divorced -variety- offended. people who have got divorced -variety of- 3: people who have got divorced variety of very divorced for a variety of very justifiable_ divorced for a variety of very justifiable reasons should you tutt— justifiable reasons should you just-together— justifiable reasons should you just-together for- justifiable reasons should you just together for the just stay together for the kids? tttt-s— just stay together for the kids? tttt-s wttt— just stay together for the kids? that's whatlwant_ just stay together for the kids? that's whatlwant to - just stay together for the kids? that's what i want to know. patrick christys on . gb news yet patrick christys on. gb news yet teats—

patrick christys on. gb news yet teats to— patrick christys on. gb news yet teats to go— patrick christys on. gb news yet loads to go out. _ patrick christys on. gb news yet loads to go out. g loads to go out. fast moving show today. ladies and gentlemen, i am going to be going in on this cultural stuff. do you think it's that do you think it's right that white people feel white people shouldn't feel guilt wrongs? guilt for historic wrongs? suella tubthumping guilt for historic wrongs? - suella—tubthumping on suella braverman tubthumping on that.— suella braverman tubthumping on that. et— suella braverman tubthumping on that. gt vtews— suella braverman tubthumping on that. gb views gb— suella braverman tubthumping on that. gb views gb news .uk make you— that. gb views gb news .uk make you get— that. gb views gb news .uk make you got to— that. gb views gb news .uk make sure you get in touch. i'll see you— sure you get in touch. i'll see you tu— sure you get in touch. i'll see you to o— sure you get in touch. i'll see you to o tot— sure you get in touch. i'll see you in a tick after— sure you get in touch. i'll see you in a tick after the headlines— you in a tick after the headlines .- you in a tick after the headlines . hello. good headlines. hello. good afternoon. - headlines. hello. good afternoon. . 15 oz? headlines. hello. good- afternoon. it's 3:02. i'm tamsen roberts in the gb newsroom. three men who supplied fake passports to criminals have been jailed. anthony beard , jailed. anthony beard, christopher btec and alan thompson , an helped murderers thompson, an helped murderers and drug dealers evade justice. beard who paid vulnerable people for their expired documents, was sentenced to six years and eight months. his accomplice was zetec, and thompson will serve a combined term of ii zetec, and thompson will serve a combined term of 11 years. the national crime agency's deputy director , craig turner, says the director, craig turner, says the falsified passport served as a golden ticket for organised crime network . use. these crime network. use. these

organisations were involved in drug trafficking , kidnap and drug trafficking, kidnap and money laundering on an international scale. a fog passport allowed- a fog passport allowed those organised ottmtuot— passport allowed those organised criminal networks— passport allowed those organised criminal networks in order to ttttot— criminal networks in order to travel abroad,— criminal networks in order to travel abroad, in— criminal networks in order to travel abroad, in order to carry out— travel abroad, in order to carry out ttott— travel abroad, in order to carry out their business,— travel abroad, in order to carry out their business, but also ottouot— out their business, but also allowed them— out their business, but also allowed them to obviously evade tattoo— allowed them to obviously evade oopttyo ty— allowed them to obviously evade captive by obviously law enforcement— captive by obviously law enforcement actually obviously sought— enforcement actually obviously sought to— enforcement actually obviously sought to arrest— enforcement actually obviously sought to arrest them. the environment— sought to arrest them. the environment secretary has stressed the importance of an affordable, sustained and resilient food supply chain at the farm to fork summit in downing street. the government is downing street. the government ts ptomtstug— downing street. the government ts otomtstug o— downing street. the government is promising a fairer— t g the government is promising a fairer price for tumors— is promising a fairer price for farmers produce— is promising a fairer price for farmers produce and has pledged to get— farmers produce and has pledged to get moto— farmers produce and has pledged to get ot— farmers produce and has pledged to get more of their products on supermarket— to get more of their products on supermarket shelves. the latest figures— supermarket shelves. the latest ttgutos stou— supermarket shelves. the latest figures show meat, yoghurt and toootottos— figures show meat, yoghurt and vegetables are— figures show meat, yoghurt and vegetables are just some of the toms— vegetables are just some of the ttoms tutt— vegetables are just some of the items that have— vegetables are just some of the items that have doubled in price to o— items that have doubled in price to o you— items that have doubled in price to o you too— items that have doubled in price to a year ago amid— items that have doubled in price to a year ago amid high inflation.— to a year ago amid high inflation. therese coffey says the— inflation. therese coffey says the postage— inflation. therese coffey says the postage ot— inflation. therese coffey says the package of measures will boost— the package of measures will boost the— the package of measures will boost the food _ the package of measures will boost the food supply chain and grow— boost the food supply chain and got too— boost the food supply chain and grow the economy— boost the food supply chain and grow the economy . grow the economy. i'm conscious tutt— grow the economy. i'm conscious that our supermarkets get involved in a variety of ways on how they help consumers. i'll leave that to the select

committee, but what is critical is coming here today getting the food supply chain from the farm. indeed , the see right through to indeed, the see right through to the indeed, the see right through to tho tott— indeed, the see right through to tho tott out— indeed, the see right through to the fork and about how we can oouttuuo— the fork and about how we can sonttuuo to— the fork and about how we can continue to work— the fork and about how we can continue to work together to have — continue to work together to have tutt— continue to work together to have that security of food ototusttou— have that security of food production, also making sure production, but also making sure we tots— production, but also making sure we have t— production, but also making sure we have a resilient— production, but also making sure we have a resilient one and an ottottotto— we have a resilient one and an affordable food— we have a resilient one and an affordable food production as wet— affordable food production as you. — affordable food production as you. the— affordable food production as well . the prime— affordable food production as well . 37” m " cc well. the prime minister will tell european leaders the world's most vulnerable are paying world's most vulnerable are paying the price for unlawful migration. addressing the council of europe in iceland this afternoon , he'll say the this afternoon, he'll say the international system for policing human trafficking isn't working and that the uk isn't the only country being affected . that's as the government tries to implement the illegal migration bill, which is currently going through the house lords . the new law currently going through the house lords. the new law aims house of lords. the new law aims to tackle small boat crossings, sending asylum seekers back home or to a third country. such as rwanda . the head of the royal rwanda. the head of the royal college of nursing is urging union members to vote in favour of further walkouts to strengthen her hand in negotiations with the government

. addressing the annual conference, pat cullen says the government will be forced to improve their offer if the union has another six month strike mandate at a postal ballot on new industrial action will open next week after the rcn turned down a 5% pay rise this year and a one off payment for last year. she also demanded the prime minister come to the table . minister come to the table. absolutely nobody wants to see twice as many nurses take strike action than or twice as many hospitals affected by a strike. prime minister, you did the ttgtt— prime minister, you did the ttgttt tttng— prime minister, you did the ttgttt tttug to— prime minister, you did the right thing to open the negotiations- right thing to open the negotiations with me in february auto— negotiations with me in february auto tototo— negotiations with me in february arnie before the— negotiations with me in february arnie before the 75th birthday of arnie before the 75th birthday ot tho— arnie before the 75th birthday ot ttto tus— arnie before the 75th birthday of the nhs this— arnie before the 75th birthday of the nhs this july. let us get the of the nhs this july. let us get too tot— of the nhs this july. let us get the job finished— of the nhs this july. let us get the job finished . _ of the nhs this july. let us get the job finished . the job finished. jobless ttgutos— the job finished. jobless figures have unexpectedly risen again . unemployment rose to 3.9% again. unemployment rose to 3.9% in the first three months of the

yean in the first three months of the year, up from 3.8% in the previous quarter. data from the office for national statistics also shows vacancies have fallen to the lowest level for 18 months, with a number of people in work slightly higher. shadow work and pensions secretary jonathan ashworth says the government needs to invest in training and reskilling. i would argue that we need action now to help people who are trapped on benefits. s help people who are trapped on benefits . s to move into work . benefits. s to move into work. tt-s— benefits. s to move into work. tt-s why— benefits. s to move into work. to why too-vo— benefits. s to move into work. it's why we've offered - s to move into work. it's why we've offered an end to wort— it's why we've offered an end to work guarantee— it's why we've offered an end to work guarantee key reform to the to o— work guarantee key reform to the to o ootttoutot— work guarantee key reform to the to a particular aspect of the bottom— to a particular aspect of the benefit system.— to a particular aspect of the benefit system. but we've also got to— benefit system. but we've also got to ottot— benefit system. but we've also got to offer people proper ttotutug— got to offer people proper training and— got to offer people proper training and help and reskilling to moto— training and help and reskilling to tuto— training and help and reskilling to move into good, well—paid tots— to move into good, well—paid tots tooouso— to move into good, well—paid jobs because a— to move into good, well—paid jobs because a job should be otto— jobs because a job should be otto to— jobs because a job should be able to provide— jobs because a job should be able to provide for yourself, for able to provide for yourself, tot yout— able to provide for yourself, for your family,— able to provide for yourself, for your family, for you to tutt— for your family, for you to buildlhome_ for your family, for you to build home life. and too many build a home life. and too many tots— build a home life. and too many tots tu— build a home life. and too many tots to tho— build a home life. and too many jobs in the country— build a home life. and too many jobs in the country are low paid at jobs in the country are low paid. at_confederation at the moment. the confederation of at the moment. the confederation ot ottttst— at the moment. the confederation of british industry— at the moment. the confederation of british industry has oppotttot— of british industry has oppotttot o- of british industry has appointed a new executive to rootst— appointed a new executive to toomt tho— appointed a new executive to revamp the culture following ototms— revamp the culture following ototms ot— revamp the culture following claims of wrongdoing by former tttootot— claims of wrongdoing by former director general— claims of wrongdoing by former director general tony danker was among— director general tony danker was among sovotat— director general tony danker was among several staff members who tot— among several staff members who tot go— among several staff members who tot go tast— among several staff members who were let go last month in.

tttzatotn— were let go last month in. elizabeth wallace- were let go last month in. elizabeth wallace has- were let go last month in. elizabeth wallace has now been hired as the new chief people officer for it's after more than a dozen women alleged to the guardian newspaper they were sexually harassed by colleagues and to say they were raped . and to say they were raped. greggs bakery has revealed its sales have surged by nearly a fifth over the past year . the fifth over the past year. the bakery chain says its food is attractive to customers looking for a cheaper alternative amid the rising cost of living, sales grew by 17% over the past 12 months. it says they're tapping into a new market with a wider variety of hot foods, as well as newer vegan products . this variety of hot foods, as well as newer vegan products. this is gb news. more from me shortly. now, though, it's back to . though, it's back to. patrick welcome to the show. it's patrick christys here- f it's patrick christys here on gb news and patrick christys here on gb news ant .— patrick christys here on gb news ant . want— patrick christys here on gb news ant . want to— patrick christys here on gb news and i want to start— patrick christys here on gb news and i want to start by doing

somotntng— and i want to start by doing somotntng a— and i want to start by doing something a little bit different today.— something a little bit different today. — something a little bit different today. actually. _ something a little bit different today. actually. i— something a little bit different today. ' ti something a little bit different today. i today. actually. i want to set my stall out on some of the most controversial of the day, controversial issues of the day, and focusing suella and i'm focusing on suella braverman because i think suella braverman because i think suella braverman a braver man braverman is a braver man than most. excuse the pun most. if you'll excuse the pun ant— most. if you'll excuse the pun and deliberate— if you'll excuse the pun and deliberate misgendering of her, and deliberate misgendering of non—sno- and deliberate misgendering of non—sno wtttl her, which i'm sure she will, sno—moto- her, which i'm sure she will, she—more balls| her, which i'm sure she will,- she_more balls than she actually has more balls than most—come-andl most men. she's come out and sat— most men. she's come out and sat tnat— most men. she's come out and said that white— most men. she's come out and said that white people shouldn't most men. she's come out and said aiat white people shouldn't most men. she's come out and said a collective )eople shouldn't most men. she's come out and said a collective guiltz shouldn't most men. she's come out and said a collective guilt foriouldn't feel a collective guilt for ntstono— feel a collective guilt for historic wrongs that happened feel a collective guilt for historittheyngs that happened feel a collective guilt for historittheyngs tievenippened feel a collective guilt for historittheyngs tievenippentshe before they were even born. she wont— before they were even born. she wont on— before they were even born. she wont on to— before they were even born. she wont on to say,— before they were even born. she went on to say, i— before they were even born. she went on to say, i think the left onty— went on to say, i think the left onty sott— went on to say, i think the left can only sell its— went on to say, i think the left can only sell its vision for the tututo— can only sell its vision for the future-making— can only sell its vision for the future making feel future by making people feel tonttto— future by making people feel terrible-past.- future by making people feel terrible past. white terrible about our past. white poonto— terrible about our past. white pooptolnot— terrible about our past. white pooptolnot-tn- terrible about our past. white poootolnot-tn a- terrible about our past. white people not in a special people do not exist in a special stato— people do not exist in a special statolstn— people do not exist in a special statolstn ot— people do not exist in a special state sin or collective state of sin or collective gutt— state of sin or collective gigg, tut— state of sin or collective guilt, but when you look at some of guilt, but when you look at some ot out— guilt, but when you look at some of our national— guilt, but when you look at some of our national leaders, king cnattos— of our national leaders, king cnattos gotng— of our national leaders, king charles going against boris tonnson-s— charles going against boris johnson's apologising johnson's advice, apologising for johnson's advice, apologising tot statoty— johnson's advice, apologising tot stavoty .— johnson's advice, apologising for slavery , agreeing to for slavery, agreeing to ooopotato— for slavery, agreeing to cooperate with the report into the monarchy's_ cooperate with the report into the monarchy's links with the stato— the monarchy's links with the stavo ttato. — the monarchy's links with the slave trade. .then - the monarchy's links with the slave trade. then we've got slave trade. and then we've got the archbishop _ slave trade. and then we've got the archbishop of— slave trade. and then we've got the archbishop of canterbury tastoatty— the archbishop of canterbury basically-that- the archbishop of canterbury basically that we have a basically saying that we have a duty— basically saying that we have a duty to— basically saying that we have a tuty to tato— basically saying that we have a duty to take in— basically saying that we have a duty to take in pretty much anyon— duty to take in pretty much anyon ttno— duty to take in pretty much anyone who arrives here tttogatty,— anyone who arrives here illegally, accommodate anyone wno— illegally, accommodate anyone wooomon-— illegally, accommodate anyone l who -come - here who wants to come and live here togatty— who wants to come and live here togatty-go— who wants to come and live here legally-go abroad- who wants to come and live here legally go abroad and sort legally and go abroad and sort out-mo— legally and go abroad and sort out-the world's— legally and go abroad and sort out the world's problems as out all the world's problems as wott—tnat- out all the world's problems as well._that kind- out all the world's problems as well._that kind of. well. where does that kind of tnougnt— well. where does that kind of thought process— well. where does that kind of

thought process come from? i tntnt— thought process come from? i tntnt tt— thought process come from? i think it comes— thought process come from? i think it comes from that sense of think it comes from that sense ot unnososty— think it comes from that sense of unnecessary guilt that madman— of unnecessary guilt that bradman was— of unnecessary guilt that bradman was talking about. ntotnot— bradman was talking about. brother de—man also said that many— brother de—man also said that many ooopto— brother de—man also said that many people think that multiculturalism is failing not tooauso— multiculturalism is failing not tooauso tt-s— multiculturalism is failing not because it's an— multiculturalism is failing not because it's an inherently bad thing,— because it's an inherently bad thing, tut— because it's an inherently bad thing, but because it's happening— thing, but because it's happening too quickly and wttnout— happening too quickly and without the— happening too quickly and without the infrastructure being put without the infrastructure being out tn— without the infrastructure being out tn ptaoo— without the infrastructure being out tn ptaoo to— without the infrastructure being put in place to deal with it. tootto— put in place to deal with it. noooto an— put in place to deal with it. people can-the- put in place to deal with it. people can the negative people can see the negative tmtaots— people can see the negative tmpaots ot— people can see the negative impacts of now— people can see the negative impacts of now and the huge ptottoms— impacts of now and the huge problems coming down the road. but problems coming down the road. out too— problems coming down the road. but totng— problems coming down the road. but we're being gaslit into tooptng— but we're being gaslit into keeping out— but we're being gaslit into keeping our foot on the accelerator. _ keeping our foot on the accelerator. why because there is accelerator. why because there ts a— accelerator. why because there is a sense pushed— accelerator. why because there is a sense pushed onto us that we is a sense pushed onto us that too gust— is a sense pushed onto us that too tust navo— is a sense pushed onto us that we just have to— is a sense pushed onto us that we just have to accept this as tonanoo— we just have to accept this as ponanoo tot— we just have to accept this as penance for our— we just have to accept this as penance for our historic wrongs to moto— penance for our historic wrongs to noto tnat— penance for our historic wrongs to prove that we're not an tntototant— to prove that we're not an intolerant society with archaic t— intolerant society with archaic t say— intolerant society with archaic t say wo— intolerant society with archaic views. i say we should get rid of views. i say we should get rid ot tnts— views. i say we should get rid ot tnts gutt— views. i say we should get rid of this guilt and— views. i say we should get rid of this guilt and stand up for oountty. — of this guilt and stand up for our country. stand up for what got— our country. stand up for what got ant— our country. stand up for what we've got and what we don't want to toso. — we've got and what we don't want to toso. a— we've got and what we don't want to lose. a shared— we've got and what we don't want to lose. a shared culture, a snatot— to lose. a shared culture, a shared history. - to lose. a shared culture, a shared history. ash; tit?" to lose. a shared culture, a shared history. ash; if?" to lose. a shared culture, a shared history. ash; i " g shared history. we can be global britain without losing our national identity by turning this country into a complete melting pot of all of the world's different cultures and sometimes as well, our cultural problems. we shouldn't shy away mom— problems. we shouldn't shy away mom putttng— problems. we shouldn't shy away mom outttng tno— we shouldn't shy away from putting the interests of

our own nation— from putting the interests of our own nation first. and on ma— our own nation first. and on ma noto— our own nation first. and on that note, it's— our own nation first. and on that note, it's been a rather big— that note, it's been a rather ttg tay— that note, it's been a rather ttg tay tot— that note, it's been a rather big day for suella braverman tooauso— big day for suella braverman tooauso t-m— big day for suella braverman because i'm just— big day for suella braverman because i'm just reading now mat-s— because i'm just reading now that's apparently she is being ttootot— that's apparently she is being ttootot ty— that's apparently she is being blocked by the— that's apparently she is being blocked by the cabinet who have ot— blocked by the cabinet who have ot not— blocked by the cabinet who have some of her proposals to cut mtgtatton— some of her proposals to cut migration, etcetera, sort migration, etcetera, and sort out—tony- migration, etcetera, and sort. out—tony out some of those very issues sno— out some of those very issues sno-tatttng— out some of those very issues she talking about. there she was talking about. there sno-s—ty- she was talking about. there. she's—by cabinet. she was talking about. there. she'five_by cabinet. she was talking about. there she'five proposals by cabinet. she was talking about. there she'five proposals drawn binet. she was talking about. there she'five proposals drawn upet. she was talking about. there she'five proposals drawn up by the five proposals drawn up by braverman, apparently have braverman, which apparently have noon— braverman, which apparently have noon-ty— braverman, which apparently have noon-toy tno— braverman, which apparently have been -by the times,- braverman, which apparently have been by the times, would been seen by the times, would increase-minimum- been seen by the times, would increase minimum salaries increase the minimum salaries for increase the minimum salaries. tot—sttttot for companies employing skilled wototst— for companies employing skilled wottots—to- for companies employing skilled workers—to bringi workers make it harder to bring mott— workers make it harder to bring mot—un- workers make it harder to bring tnott—un .- workers make it harder to bringi their—uk , reduce their spouses to the uk, reduce their spouses to the uk, reduce tno-tototgn— their spouses to the uk, reduce the foreign students can the time foreign students can stay— the time foreign students can stay tn— the time foreign students can stay tn tno— the time foreign students can stay in the country after their cause and ban— stay in the country after their cause and ban them from bringing tamtty— cause and ban them from bringing family members— cause and ban them from bringing family members and remove stutonts— family members and remove students.they_ family members and remove students they fail to finish students if they fail to finish tnott— students if they fail to finish their course.— students if they fail to finish their course. supposedly anyway. the their course. supposedly anyway. tno onty— their course. supposedly anyway. tno onty ono— their course. supposedly anyway. the only one that— their course. supposedly anyway. the only one that the cabinet is nttttng— the only one that the cabinet is nttttnglattow— the only one that the cabinet is willing-allow is— the only one that the cabinet is willinglallow is for- the only one that the cabinet is willing allow is for foreign willing to allow is for foreign asost— willing to allow is for foreign masters students bringing totattvos— masters students bringing relatives with _ masters students bringing relatives with them to essentially _ relatives with them to essentially be blocked from totng— essentially be blocked from totng tnat. — essentially be blocked from doing that. lots— essentially be blocked from doing that. lots talk about doing that. lots to talk about noto— doing that. lots to talk about noto. tot-s— doing that. lots to talk about noto. tot-s go— doing that. lots to talk about here. let's go at— doing that. lots to talk about here. let's go at it, shall . we here. let's go at it, shall. we vom— here. let's go at it, shall. we voan. tot— here. let's go at it, shall. we voan. tot mo— here. let's go at it, shall. we yeah. let me know— here. let's go at it, shall. we yeah. let me know what- here. let's go at it, shall. we yeah. let me know what you think. gb views a gbnews.uk. but yeah, here's a little tomtntot—

but yeah, here's a little reminder of— but yeah, here's a little reminder of exactly what suella braverman said— reminder of exactly what suella braverman said yesterday. i tttnt— braverman said yesterday. i tmnt tno— braverman said yesterday. i think the left— braverman said yesterday. i think the left out- braverman said yesterday. i think the left out can- braverman said yesterday. i think the left out can only sell its vision for the future by making people feel terrible about our past. making people feel terrible about our past . white people do about our past. white people do not exist in a special state of sin or collective guilt . nobody sin or collective guilt. nobody should be blamed for things that happened before they were born. the defining feature of this country's relationship with slavery is not that we practised it , but that we slavery is not that we practised it, but that we led slavery is not that we practised it , but that we led the way slavery is not that we practised it, but that we led the way in abolishing it. i'm joined now by atmo— abolishing it. i'm joined now by albie amankona,_ abolishing it. i'm joined now by albie amankona, who- g e i'm joined now by albie amankona, who is the co tountot— albie amankona, who is the co tountot ot— albie amankona, who is the co founder of conservatives against taotsm — founder of conservatives against taotsm tot— founder of conservatives against racism for equality and also a key racism for equality and also a toy sog— racism for equality and also a toy oog tn— racism for equality and also a toy oog tn tno— racism for equality and also a key cog in the saturday five wnoot. — key cog in the saturday five wnoot. mat— key cog in the saturday five wheel. that of— key cog in the saturday five wheel. that of course, airs ototy— wheel. that of course, airs ototy stngto— wheel. that of course, airs every single saturday, eight till every single saturday, eight tttt 9— every single saturday, eight tttt 9 p-m- — every single saturday, eight till 9 pm. albie look. great stutt— till 9 pm. albie look. great stuff. thank— till 9 pm. albie look. great stuff. thank you— till 9 pm. albie look. great stuff. thank you very much for oomtng— stuff. thank you very much for oomtng on— stuff. thank you very much for oomtng on at— stuff. thank you very much for coming on at the— stuff. thank you very much for coming on at the top of the snow.— coming on at the top of the snow. wnat— coming on at the top of the show. what do— coming on at the top of the show. what do you make of suella braverman comments then? tssonttatty— braverman comments then? essentially, white people don't onst— essentially, white people don't oxtst—stato- essentially, white people don't exist—state of. exist in this special state of stn— exist in this special state of stn-ltnougnt— exist in this special state of sin.ithought it— exist in this special state of sin. thought it was an sin. i thought it was an interesting— sin. i thought it was an interesting comment. i think

suotta— interesting comment. i think suella braverman a lot of suella braverman makes a lot of interesting comments. i'm not sure really needed to be sure if it really needed to be said. mean, know better said. i mean, you'll know better than i. than i will because youo— than i. than i will because you onto— than i. than i will because you're white and- than i will because you're white and black, but do wntto— you're white and black, but do wntto noopto— you're white and black, but do white people feel— you're white and black, but do white people feel guilty towards the white people feel guilty towards to past? — white people feel guilty towards to past? t— white people feel guilty towards the past? i suspect— white people feel guilty towards the past? i the past? i suspect white people don't walk around feeling guilty all the just like black all the time. just like black people walk around feeling people don't walk around feeling oppressed the time. i think people don't walk around feeling opp question the time. i think people don't walk around feeling opp question that time. i think people don't walk around feeling opp question that all|e. i think people don't walk around feeling opp question that all people �*ik the question that all people want from suella want answered from suella braverman whether not braverman is whether or not she's the boats, she's going to stop the boats, whether not she's going be whether or not she's going to be able reform police, do whether or not she's going to be abltthings orm police, do whether or not she's going to be abltthings that police, do whether or not she's going to be abltthings that a police, do whether or not she's going to be abltthings that a home:e, do whether or not she's going to be abltthings that a home secretary the things that a home secretary is supposed to do. and i'd much rather and rather see suella braverman and other conservative ministers focus on the bread and butter issues, the pledges that issues, the five pledges that need to honoured the next need to be honoured by the next general election on no, indeed. and we're going to come on to ma— and we're going to come on to ma tooauso— and we're going to come on to that because-news- and we're going to come on to that because news did just that because that news did just aton— that because that news did just anon-t— that because that news did just tnonlt-watttng- that because that news did just drop i walking the drop as i was walking into the stutto— drop as i was walking into the studio. apparently about the oattnot— studio. apparently about the cabinet blocking i'll get cabinet blocking it. so i'll get you— cabinet blocking it. so i'll get your—a- cabinet blocking it. so i'll geti your—a second. your views on that in a second. nut— your views on that in a second. nut nnon— your views on that in a second. nut wnon tt— your views on that in a second. but when it comes— your views on that in a second. but when it comes to the outtutat— but when it comes to the cultural aspects of and this cultural aspects of it and this sonsolguttt— cultural aspects of it and this sonsolguttt .— cultural aspects of it and this sense-guilt , i— cultural aspects of it and this sense guilt, i can't but sense of guilt, i can't help but wonott— sense of guilt, i can't help but wonder, albie— sense of guilt, i can't help but wonder, albie-that- sense of guilt, i can't help but wonder, albie that is wonder, albie whether that is navtng—on-nayi wonder, albie whether that is- having-on-way that having an impact on the way that we having an impact on the way that too toattng— having an impact on the way that we are dealing with— having an impact on the way that we are dealing with mass mtgtatton.— we are dealing with mass migration. she- we are dealing with mass migration. she goes on to talk a

lot-multicultural- migration. she goes on to talk a lot multicultural ism and lot about multicultural ism and wnotnot— lot about multicultural ism and whether-quote- lot about multicultural ism and whether quote unquote whether or not the quote unquote _ whether or not the quote unquote ot— whether or not the quote unquote ot out— whether or not the quote unquote ot nast— whether or not the quote unquote sins of our past are— whether or not the quote unquote sins of our past are preventing us ttom — sins of our past are preventing us ttom mayto— sins of our past are preventing us from maybe acting responsibly for us from maybe acting responsibly tot—totay— us from maybe acting responsibly tot—totay ant- for wider society today and mayto— for wider society today and mayto ttytng— for wider society today and maybe trying to get a grip of infrastructure _ maybe trying to get a grip of infrastructure we have infrastructure before we have tnts— infrastructure before we have tnts ttnt— infrastructure before we have tnts ttnt ot— infrastructure before we have this kind of headfirst push towards— this kind of headfirst push towards just— this kind of headfirst push towards just rampant, essentially- towards just rampant, essentially uncontrolled mass mtgtatton— essentially uncontrolled mass mtgtatton. — essentially uncontrolled mass migration . of— essentially uncontrolled mass migration . o” tititt. essentially uncontrolled mass migration . o” i essentially uncontrolled mass migration . i : migration. of course, we need to plan adequately for any population increases. but one thing i would say about people criticising the conservatives record is of course the conservatives have been in power for 13 years. so if a conservative minister is essentially inferring that the reason why immigration is so high is because british people and the british government feels guilty about the past, well, guess who the british government is in power of? it's the conservative party. it's her party that she stood for election and it's her party that she's a key cog in. and if she's going to be trashing the record of the conservative party, that doesn't look very good in the lead up to a general election. no, it doesn't. i do wonder, tnougn—

no, it doesn't. i do wonder, though,-whether- no, it doesn't. i do wonder, though, whether not though, albie, whether or not sno-s— though, albie, whether or not sno-s-to— though, albie, whether or not she's-to-into- she's trying to tap into somotntng— she's trying to tap into something like things that are totng— something like things that are being-schools- something like things that arei being-schoolslthis being taught at schools or this atout— being taught at schools or this sense about unconscious bias, otootota— sense about unconscious bias, etcetera, - seems - sense about unconscious bias, etcetera,-seems to- sense about unconscious bias, etcetera, seems to be etcetera, which seems to be tnototttty,— etcetera, which seems to be incredibly, popular incredibly, incredibly popular attno— incredibly, incredibly popular at the moment.— incredibly, incredibly popular at the moment. said to me at the moment. you said to me tnon— at the moment. you said to me tnonltno— at the moment. you said to me tnonltno-ant— at the moment. you said to me then-the-and i- at the moment. you said to me then the and i think that then at the top and i think that youo— then at the top and i think that you ngnt,— then at the top and i think that you ngn, ty— then at the top and i think that you're right, by the way, which is you're right, by the way, which ts tnat— you're right, by the way, which is that white _ you're right, by the way, which is that white people don't walk aoutt— around feeling guilty all the ttmo— around feeling guilty all the ttmo ant— around feeling guilty all the time and black— around feeling guilty all the time and black people don't walk aount— time and black people don't walk around-oppressed- time and black people don't walk around oppressed all the around feeling oppressed all the ttmo. — around feeling oppressed all the ttmo. -to— around feeling oppressed all the time. -do think— around feeling oppressed all the time. do think that that time. but i do think that that is time. but i do think that that ts a— time. but i do think that that ts a ttt— time. but i do think that that ts a tttla— time. but i do think that that is a bit a narrative that's is a bit of a narrative that's totng— is a bit of a narrative that's tong-tnougn- is a bit of a narrative that's being though, at the being pushed, though, at the momont— being pushed, though, at the moment, people being pushed, though, at the- moment,_people should being pushed, though, at the- momefeel-people should being pushed, though, at the momefeel guilty people should being pushed, though, at the momefeel guilty for people should being pushed, though, at the momefeel guilty for historic should really feel guilty for historic wrongs— really feel guilty for historic. wrongs—mast wrongs and that maybe black ooonto— wrongs and that maybe black people oppressed and should people are oppressed and should not-mott— people are oppressed and should wear-their sleeve- wear that on their sleeve a ttttto— wear that on their sleeve a ttttto mt— wear that on their sleeve a little bit more.— wear that on their sleeve a little bit more. and i think mayto— little bit more. and i think mayto tnat-s— little bit more. and i think maybe that's what suella braverman back braverman is trying to push back on. braverman is trying to push back on—tnat— braverman is trying to push back on._that would- braverman is trying to push back on._that would be. on. my take on that would be tnat— on. my take on that would be tnat toats— on. my take on that would be that leads to— on. my take on that would be that leads to a— on. my take on that would be that leads to a more divisive soototy— that leads to a more divisive soototy as— that leads to a more divisive society as opposed to one that astuatty— society as opposed to one that can actually-move- can actually just move forward ant— can actually just move forward ant-on— can actually just move forward ant-on-tno- can actually just move forward and-on-the issues. can actually just move forward and on the issues of and crack on with the issues of tno— and crack on with the issues of to. — and crack on with the issues of to. nut— and crack on with the issues of to. nut-att- and crack on with the issues of the. but- all that. and crack on with the issues of. the- but- all that needs the day. but then all that needs to said is that it's a stupid to be said is that it's a stupid narrative. not that white people don't need to feel guilty or that people do need to that black people do need to feel oppressed that feel oppressed by saying that white need to feel white people don't need to feel guilty. essentially white people don't need to feel guilty. an essentially white people don't need to feel guilty. an incorrectlly white people don't need to feel guilty. an incorrect assertion white people don't need to feel guilttthe an incorrect assertion white people don't need to feel guilttthe left,ncorrect assertion white people don't need to feel guilttthe left, which :t assertion white people don't need to feel guilttthe left, which isassertion white people don't need to feel guilttthe left, which is thattion from the left, which is that white exists. never white guilt exists. i've never accepted white guilt accepted that white guilt exists. i thought it was

something that up something that was made up by the which is why the liberal left, which is why i'm to see suella i'm disappointed to see suella braverman affirming it by braverman basic affirming it by saying that white people don't need to feel guilty. it's a stupid that's all stupid narrative. that's all that to said. are you that needed to be said. are you are you disappointed— that needed to be said. are you are you disappointed with- are you are you disappointed with the tnat— are you disappointed with the noises that-just- are you disappointed with the noises that just coming out noises that are just coming out ntotty— noises that are just coming out notty-ngnt— noises that are just coming out notty-ngnt noto- noises that are just coming out pretty right now, actually, pretty much right now, actually, omon— pretty much right now, actually, nntonltnat— pretty much right now, actually, which-that suella— pretty much right now, actually, which that suella braverman which is that suella braverman put which is that suella braverman nut—tol put forward five proposals to try-a— put forward five proposals to try-a not— put forward five proposals to try a net migration as try to cut a net migration as a tnoto. — try to cut a net migration as a tnoto. ant— try to cut a net migration as a whole. and these— try to cut a net migration as a whole. t: whole. and these were, as we understand it, increase the understand it, to increase the minimum for companies minimum salaries for companies employing skilled workers is to make harder to bring spouses make it harder to bring spouses to uk to reduce the time to the uk to reduce the time foreign students can stay in the country after their course. ban them bringing family members and remove they fail to remove students if they fail to finish course . so finish their course. so that apparently suella braverman apparently was suella braverman big quite big plan to cut these quite shockingly high net migration figures. however for apparently the cabinet has been blocking her and only one limited proposal which would ban foreign master bringing master students bringing relatives with them, has so far been agreed by the government. and this , i suspect, is one of and this, i suspect, is one of the reasons why she's being so vocal at the moment, especially on the topic of multiculturalism

, which talking about later , which i'm talking about later on in the does it not feel on in the show. does it not feel as though conservative as though maybe the conservative party trying to undermine party is trying to undermine a home secretary with genuine conservative values ? i think conservative values? i think they seem like— i , i think they seem like sensible policy ntonosats— they seem like sensible policy ntooosats to— they seem like sensible policy proposals to me,— they seem like sensible policy proposals to me, but i also trust— proposals to me, but i also ttust tnat— proposals to me, but i also trust that after— proposals to me, but i also trust that after a robust cannot— trust that after a robust cabinet discussion that the cannot— cabinet discussion that the cabinet will— cabinet discussion that the cabinet will come to will have to— cabinet will come to will have to a— cabinet will come to will have come to a favourable outcome. tot— come to a favourable outcome. tot att— come to a favourable outcome. not all cabinet— come to a favourable outcome. not all cabinet ministers will be happy— not all cabinet ministers will to nappy wttn— not all cabinet ministers will be happy with that outcome. perhaps?— be happy with that outcome. perhaps? well— be happy with that outcome. perhaps? well a _ be happy with that outcome. perhaps? well a bereavement tsn-t,— perhaps? well a bereavement sntun-— perhaps? well a bereavement isn't,-runlcabinet. isn't, but we run a cabinet goyommont— isn't, but we run a cabinet government in— isn't, but we run a cabinet government in the united ttngtom— government in the united kingdom. that's the decision kingdom. if that's the decision of kingdom. if that's the decision ot-cattnot— kingdom. if that's the decision of-cabinet,-that- kingdom. if that's the decision of.cabinet,.that is. kingdom. if that's the decision of cabinet, that is the of the cabinet, then that is the tootston— decision that conservative mtntstots— decision that conservative ministers take. �*" decision that conservative. ministers -take. if she ministers have to take. if she toots— ministers have to take. if she toots so— ministers have to take. if she feels so strongly- ministers have to take. if she feels so strongly about this, though, is a strong case though, there is a strong case to it's very well and to say it's all very well and good getting and talking at good getting up and talking at a national conservatives conference. i maybe giving a subtle two fingers up to the cabinet colleagues, but cabinet and your colleagues, but if principles, if these are your principles, these are ones you these are the ones that you stand this is as far as you stand by. this is as far as you can see as home secretary of this is the way to this country. this is the way to sort out what she thinks. and many people think is the biggest issue the at the issue facing the nation at the minute. they're her minute. if they're blocking her from she not got to

from doing it, is she not got to go? no, i don't think she has to go. moto— go? no, i don't think she has to go. tnoto ato— go? no, i don't think she has to go. there are always- go. there are always disagreements in cabinet goonmoms— disagreements in cabinet governments .- disagreements in cabinet governments . that's why there governments. that's why there are governments. that's why there oattnot— governments. that's why there are cabinet governments, robust totatos— are cabinet governments, robust totatos-ant— are cabinet governments, robust debates-and then- are cabinet governments, robust debates and then an debates are had and then an outoomo— debates are had and then an outoomo ts— debates are had and then an outcome is agreed upon. i want suotta— outcome is agreed upon. i want suella braverman- outcome is agreed upon. i want suella braverman man to succeed in suella braverman man to succeed tn-toto— suella braverman man to succeed tn-toto as— suella braverman man to succeed tn-toto as tomo— suella braverman man to succeed in role as home secretary in her role as home secretary ant— in her role as home secretary ant tntnt— in her role as home secretary and think the- in her role as home secretary and think the main pledge that she and think the main pledge that sno nas— and think the main pledge that sno nas ts— and think the main pledge that she has is tasked- and think the main pledge that she has is tasked with is, of tnts— she has is tasked with is, of course, this task- she has is tasked with is, of course, this task of stopping tno— course, this task of stopping to toats. — course, this task of stopping the boats. it's- course, this task of stopping the boats. it's one of rishi sunat— the boats. it's one of rishi sunat tno— the boats. it's one of rishi sunak five pledges that he wants to aontoto— sunak five pledges that he wants to achieve before- sunak five pledges that he wants to achieve before next to achieve before the next gonotat— to achieve before the next general election. think that general election. i think that is general election. i think that ts-noots— general election. i think that ts-noots to— general election. i think that is.needs to be- general election. i think that is needs to be focussed on is what needs to be focussed on atto— is what needs to be focussed on auto—tony- is what needs to be focussed on albie—very much. is what needs to be focussed on albie—very much asi albie thank you very much as oton—tnat- albie thank you very much as ever,-that.dol albie thank you very much as. ever,-that.do tune ever, make sure that you do tune in ever, make sure that you do tune tn-stngto— ever, make sure that you do tune in-single saturday- ever, make sure that you do tune in single saturday night, in every single saturday night, otgnt— in every single saturday night, otgnt ttt— in every single saturday night, otgnt tttt 9— in every single saturday night, otgnt tttt 9 pm.— in every single saturday night, eight till 9 pm. for the satuttay— eight till 9 pm. for the saturday five- eight till 9 pm. for the saturday five where you can see aimoo— saturday five where you can see aimoo ot— saturday five where you can see a.more of albie- saturday five where you can see a more of albie amankona who a lot more of albie amankona who is a lot more of albie amankona who ts-tountot— is the co founder of conservatives racism conservatives against racism and tguattty. —tust- conservatives against racism and tguattty. —tusttoty| equality. right. look, just very quickly the inbox. quickly delving into the inbox. hi, patrick. you're on. hi, patrick. you're spot on. thank bill. as is thank you very much, bill. as is suella, need more of sohla's suella, we need more of sohla's type. and just on this, i'm going to be talking a lot throughout the course of this show on those issues that suella braverman has raised there. and as sunak is going as today, rishi sunak is going to to iceland and allegedly to go to iceland and allegedly stand up to the council of

europe and say enough is enough when it comes to the echr for blocking who we can and cannot deport. that is the way that he's to be able stop he's going to be able to stop these the way he's these boats. that's the way he's going deliver. pledge going to deliver. a key pledge is if we can have as a sovereign nation, of who we nation, full control of who we can cannot deport from this can and cannot deport from this nation. i'll be talking about that a little bit later. think that a little bit later. i think this is time to shine, this is rishi's time to shine, because if he doesn't if he because if he doesn't and if he doesn't look, we want doesn't say, look, we want reforms the way this reforms to the way that this international composed , international law is composed, and if we don't get it, then we're going to pull out of it. if he doesn't stand up for britain and what's in our best natural interests, i natural interests, then i seriously think maybe seriously think that maybe suella is indeed suella braverman is indeed just waiting wings for him. waiting in the wings for him. but from that now, but moving on from that now, three been jailed. for three men have been jailed. for their a massive passport their part in a massive passport fraud allowed of the fraud that allowed dozens of the uk's wanted fugitives to uk's most wanted fugitives to evade i'm patrick evade justice. i'm patrick christys on gb news britain's

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listening to gb news radio. welcome back. - listening to gb news radio. welcome back. \tiif,i"�*t" listening to gb news radio. welcome back. \tt:::twt listening to gb news radio. welcome back. not listening to gb news radio.- welcome back. now key members of an organised criminal gang have been jailed for their part in a massive passport fraud that allowed dozens of the uk's most wanted fugitives to evade justice. jamie acourt, one of the original suspects in the murder of steven lawrence, was among 50 serious offenders arrested after police uncovered this scam. anthony beard, who masterminded the fraud, has been jailed now for six and a half years . two accomplices, years. two accomplices, christopher zytek and alan thompson, were sent to prison for a combined total of 11 years. our home security editor mark white has the details . come mark white has the details. come back in 20 minutes. right that. yeah, back in 20 minutes. right that. toan t-tt— back in 20 minutes. right that. toan t-tt go. — back in 20 minutes. right that. yeah, i'll go. nigel covertly filmed by undercover officers . filmed by undercover officers. this is organised crime boss antnony— this is organised crime boss anthony beard- this is organised crime boss anthony beard handing over oassoott— anthony beard handing over passport photographs for process guosstng— passport photographs for process guosstng patt— passport photographs for process guosstng nan ot— passport photographs for process guosstng nan ot a— passport photographs for process guessing part of a high level oonsnttaoy— guessing part of a high level oonspttaoy to— guessing part of a high level conspiracy to provide fraudulent oassootts— conspiracy to provide fraudulent nassnotts to— conspiracy to provide fraudulent nassnotts to tno— conspiracy to provide fraudulent passports to the criminal underworld,— passports to the criminal underworld, helping murderers , underworld, helping murderers, tttnanoots— underworld, helping murderers, tttnannots ant— underworld, helping murderers, kidnappers and many others serious criminals to operate untot— serious criminals to operate under different- serious criminals to operate

under different identities and otato— under different identities and evade capture- under different identities and evade capture .— under different identities and evade capture . in a cafe in evade capture. in a cafe in soutn— evade capture. in a cafe in soutn tast— evade capture. in a cafe in south east london, anthony beard was south east london, anthony beard soototty— south east london, anthony beard was secretly filmed- south east london, anthony beard was secretly filmed meeting with an ttonttty— was secretly filmed meeting with an identity donor- was secretly filmed meeting with an identity donor ,- was secretly filmed meeting with an identity donor , often an identity donor, often vulnerable - an identity donor, often vulnerable individuals with tnnt— vulnerable individuals with an ant— vulnerable individuals with drink and drug- vulnerable individuals with drink and drug addictions who natt— drink and drug addictions who natt to— drink and drug addictions who were paid to hand over their old passpotts— were paid to hand over their old nassnotts ant— were paid to hand over their old passports and allow the criminals- passports and allow the criminals to- passports and allow the criminals to effectively assume tnott— criminals to effectively assume tnott ttonttty— criminals to effectively assume their identity .— criminals to effectively assume their identity . beard would then their identity. beard would then apply— their identity. beard would then anoty tot— their identity. beard would then anoty to a— their identity. beard would then apply for a passport renewal ommo— apply for a passport renewal online, sending- apply for a passport renewal online, sending in a photograph of online, sending in a photograph ot tno— online, sending in a photograph of the criminal- online, sending in a photograph of the criminal instead of the ongtnat— of the criminal instead of the original passport- of the criminal instead of the original passport holder. any totay— original passport holder. any totay tn— original passport holder. any delay in processing would often see delay in processing would often antnony— delay in processing would often see anthony beard himself posing as tno— see anthony beard himself posing as to atnttoant— see anthony beard himself posing as the applicant ,- see anthony beard himself posing as the applicant , calling the as the applicant, calling the tassnott— as the applicant, calling the passport office- as the applicant, calling the passport office to chase them up . t— passport office to chase them up . t moon-t— passport office to chase them up . i haven't received- passport office to chase them up . i haven't received the- passport office to chase them up . i haven't received the text. that's right. and it's been just over two weeks. so now i want to see over two weeks. so now i want to t— over two weeks. so now i want to tt youo— over two weeks. so now i want to see if you've received- over two weeks. so now i want to see if you've received it. - see if you've received it. mat-s— see if you've received it. mat-s att— see if you've received it. that's all i'm- see if you've received it. that's all i'm phoning . for nato that's all i'm phoning. for nato . well, i think . subject inside

. well, i think. subject inside ntonmsos — . well, i think. subject inside nonmsos — . well, i think. subject inside premises. clear.— . well, i think. subject inside premises. clear. okay.- . well, i think. subject inside premises. clear. okay. brilliant after one premises. clear. okay. brilliant attot ot— premises. clear. okay. brilliant after one of the- premises. clear. okay. brilliant after one of the biggest- after one of the biggest nattonat— after one of the biggest national crime agency investigations of recent years, otttoots— investigations of recent years, officers arrested - investigations of recent years, officers arrested anthony beard and officers arrested anthony beard ant coconut— officers arrested anthony beard and coconut director christopher otto— and coconut director christopher nttc .— and coconut director christopher nttc . to— and coconut director christopher btec . he acted- and coconut director christopher btec . he acted as- and coconut director christopher btec . he acted as a broker btec. he acted as a broker totnoon— btec. he acted as a broker between beard- btec. he acted as a broker between beard and the crime groups— between beard and the crime gtouns .— between beard and the crime gtouns . tamto— between beard and the crime groups . jamie a'court, an groups. jamie a'court, an ongtnat— groups. jamie a'court, an original suspect in the murder of original suspect in the murder ot stonnon— original suspect in the murder of stephen lawrence, was brought to tusttoo— of stephen lawrence, was brought to tusttoo as— of stephen lawrence, was brought to tusttoo as a— of stephen lawrence, was brought to justice as a direct result of tno— to justice as a direct result of to nassnott— to justice as a direct result of the passport investigation . the passport investigation. gain,— the passport investigation. t-coutt, tno— the passport investigation. a'court, who has always denied tntotvomont— a'court, who has always denied involvement in- a'court, who has always denied involvement in the uk's most nototous— involvement in the uk's most notorious racist- involvement in the uk's most notorious racist murder and wno-s— notorious racist murder and who's never been convicted of tnat— who's never been convicted of tnat nmo— who's never been convicted of that crime, was- who's never been convicted of that crime, was extradited back to to — that crime, was extradited back to to uk— that crime, was extradited back to the uk from - that crime, was extradited back to the uk from spain and jailed for to the uk from spain and jailed tot ms— to the uk from spain and jailed tot nts natt— to the uk from spain and jailed tot nts natt tn— to the uk from spain and jailed for his part in a- to the uk from spain and jailed for his part in a major drugs oonsottaoy— for his part in a major drugs oonspttaoy .— for his part in a major drugs conspiracy . more than 50 other conspiracy. more than 50 other tugttttos— conspiracy. more than 50 other fugitives were - conspiracy. more than 50 other fugitives were also arrested as a moot— fugitives were also arrested as a direct result- fugitives were also arrested as a direct result of- fugitives were also arrested as a direct result of the passport scam investigation. these are tony— scam investigation. these are tony ntgn— scam investigation. these are tony ntgn ont— scam investigation. these are very high end organised crime notwotts— very high end organised crime notwotts . — very high end organised crime networks . this- very high end organised crime networks . " i: very high end organised crime networks . " networks. this could obviously have the means to pay for a fake

passport that went anything from up to £15,000, which obviously allowed them to travel internationally . i turn around internationally. i turn around and say that this was the golden ticket for the organised crime networks in order that they could evade arrest, evade identity by local law enforcement, either internationally or at home in the anthony beard was the uk. anthony beard was secretly filmed as he met some of those high ranking criminals hoping to receive a passport from him in another covert audio recording , christopher btec recording, christopher btec could be heard telling beard what one passport recipient has wanted for his wife for voluntary murder , kidnapping, voluntary murder, kidnapping, kidnapping, hostage taking , kidnapping, hostage taking, separate use of arms. drakh traffic and arms- separate use of arms. drakh traffic and arms and- est; drakh traffic and arms and ammunition ttatttottng— traffic and arms and ammunition trafficking, cybercrime and monoy— trafficking, cybercrime and money laundering, serious injury . tms— money laundering, serious injury . this investigation- money laundering, serious injury . this investigation exposed a worrying weakness in the uk's passport application system, which allowed criminals to exploit the documentary renewal process. the home office says those processed cases have since

been tightened up, with anthony beard and christopher btec now behind bars. the national crime agency says it believes beard obtained hundreds of fraud passports for criminals over the more than two decades he operated the mark white gb news as well . mark white joins me in as well. mark white joins me in the as well. mark white joins me in to stutto— as well. mark white joins me in the studio now- as well. mark white joins me in the studio now and- mark white joins me in the studio now and mark, one of the studio now and mark, one of to tntngs— the studio now and mark, one of to tntngs tnat— the studio now and mark, one of the things that emerged to me as i the things that emerged to me as t was— the things that emerged to me as twas ttstontng— the things that emerged to me as i was listening to- the things that emerged to me as i was listening to that and watontng— i was listening to that and watontng tt— i was listening to that and watching it was- i was listening to that and watching it was actually the stmottotty— watching it was actually the stmpttotty ot— watching it was actually the simplicity of the plan. and it matos— simplicity of the plan. and it matos mo— simplicity of the plan. and it makes me wonder how many other tangotous—usot- dangerous criminals have used tnts—voan.- dangerous criminals have used tnts—voan. t- dangerous criminals have used this—yeah, i think. this loophole. yeah, i think a significant number have potentially. why the potentially. that's why the national agency in national crime agency in conjunction with the home office , the passport agency, have set up a specialist unit. now within the passport agency looking out for others who might be trying to obtain a passport. either by this means , which is the renewal this means, which is the renewal process or by another method. so some real concern because these

were like gold dust, you know, in terms of what they offered these high end criminals, because if you could get a passport, that was to all intents and purposes, a legitimate passport with someone who is not in trouble with the law, tended to be a vulnerable person , either drink or drugs person, either drink or drugs dependent , who they would pay dependent, who they would pay a small amount of money to. they get the passport out that they had , renew it and then they had had, renew it and then they had it. they had a passport, but they also had a new identity for that criminal so they could travel the world, book into hotels. more importantly, patrick, they could set up businesses and get mortgages all the other things that you might need to do to live in a country abroad. if you were a fugitive and it made actually trying to find them because they had this new assumed identity extremely difficult indeed . peter has been difficult indeed. peter has been on tno— difficult indeed. peter has been on to moon— difficult indeed. peter has been on the inbox and- difficult indeed. peter has been on the inbox and he- t: ti 3: peter has been on the inbox and he says, did nototy— on the inbox and he says, did nototy tn— on the inbox and he says, did nototy tn tno— on the inbox and he says, did nobody in the passport office notno— nobody in the passport office nottoo tnat— nobody in the passport office notice that the - nobody in the passport office notice that the difference totwoon— notice that the difference between the - notice that the difference between the old and the new nnoto— between the old and the new nnoto graphs?— between the old and the new photo graphs? and it's not it's

not—oasy- photo graphs? and it's not it's not—easy because| photo graphs? and it's not it's. not—easy because you not always that easy because you untato—tntnt- update your passport. i think it's update your passport. i think tt-s owoty— update your passport. i think to owoty ton— update your passport. i think it's every ten years, isn't it? ant— it's every ten years, isn't it? tntltnoto— it's every ten years, isn't it? and .there-be. and so there would be a difference - and so there would be a difference between you difference between the way you took— difference between the way you toot-now. — difference between the way you look-now. yeah. . difference between the way you look-now. yeah. i. difference between the way you. look-now. yeah. i mean look then and now. yeah. i mean the wo— look then and now. yeah. i mean the we astot— look then and now. yeah. i mean the we asked this question at a briefing with the national crime agency sentencing, agency before the sentencing, that thing, of course, that very same thing, of course, occurred to all the journalists there. the passport there. surely the passport office would know. and i mean, i've looked at photographs of myself ten years ago. i don't think i've changed that much, maybe a bit . you've not changed maybe a bit. you've not changed at at— maybe a bit. you've not changed at an, matt.— maybe a bit. you've not changed at all, mark. you- maybe a bit. you've not changed at all, mark. you don't- e you've not changed at all, mark. you don't look a day— at all, mark. you don't look a tay otton — at all, mark. you don't look a day older. yes,— at all, mark. you don't look a day older. “tit; 3: day older. yes, indeed. but clearly they're looking according to the national crime agency, for people who did bear some resemblance to the criminal that was hoping to assume their identity . and then what they identity. and then what they also did was this sort out, otherwise respectable people. they would also pay to be counter signatories to the passport to say, yes, this is a true likeness. and clearly, if he does look a little chubbier ,

he does look a little chubbier, less hair than he did, it's just the process of ageing of ten years and more often than not, it seems the passport agency run stamped this and they got their passport out. yeah, indeed. i'm gust— passport out. yeah, indeed. i'm tust nawng— passport out. yeah, indeed. i'm tust nawng a— passport out. yeah, indeed. i'm just having a little- passport out. yeah, indeed. i'm just having a little bit- yeah, indeed. i'm just having a little bit of a toot— just having a little bit of a toot at— just having a little bit of a toot at tno— just having a little bit of a look at the sentence is now and got— look at the sentence is now and we've got anthony- look at the sentence is now and we've got anthony beard who masterminded- we've got anthony beard who masterminded this whole thing as we masterminded this whole thing as wo—tatot— masterminded this whole thing as we_iailedlsix- masterminded this whole thing as we -jailed.six and. we believe as jailed for six and a-yoats. — we believe as jailed for six and a-yoats. tno— we believe as jailed for six and a.years. the two - a half years. the two accomplices, christopher zyrtec and alan thompson, sent to prison combined total of prison for a combined total of 11 not long enough 11 years. it's not long enough given we just given the fact that we just heard that report, there, heard in that report, there, that wanted for that one guy was wanted for something like voluntary murder, kidnapping. i mean, it, kidnapping. i mean, you name it, this it this guy had allegedly done it and they let these people get out of country lives. out of the country live lives. goodness what kind of goodness only knows what kind of crimes they were committing crimes that they were committing abroad as well. those abroad as well. are those sentences fair? i think that's a very fair and legitimate question ask . as very fair and legitimate question ask. as far very fair and legitimate question ask . as far as question to ask. as far as antnony— question to ask. as far as anthony beard- question to ask. as far as anthony beard is- as far as anthony beard is concerned, he got a— anthony beard is concerned, he got a otto— anthony beard is concerned, he got a 25% reduction on his sentence because he pleaded gutty— sentence because he pleaded guttty .— sentence because he pleaded gutty. tow,— sentence because he pleaded guilty. now, the- sentence because he pleaded guilty . now, the other guilty. now, the other co—conspirator , the two major

co—conspirator, the two major ptayots— co—conspirator, the two major otayots .— co—conspirator, the two major players , christopher btec, he players, christopher btec, he wont— players, christopher btec, he wont to— players, christopher btec, he went to trial- players, christopher btec, he went to trial and- players, christopher btec, he went to trial and took it all tno— went to trial and took it all to way. — went to trial and took it all to way. so— went to trial and took it all the way. so he- went to trial and took it all the way. so he got that extra . the way. so he got that extra. so the way. so he got that extra. so antnony— the way. so he got that extra. so anthony beard would have they woutt— so anthony beard would have they woutt nawo— so anthony beard would have they would have both- so anthony beard would have they would have both got eight years oaon— would have both got eight years oaon as— would have both got eight years each as co—conspirators. the otnot— each as co—conspirators. the otnot onan— each as co—conspirators. the other chap was- each as co—conspirators. the other chap was a- each as co—conspirators. the other chap was a bit of a minor ntayot— other chap was a bit of a minor ptayot tn— other chap was a bit of a minor ptayot tn tt— other chap was a bit of a minor ptayot tn n, so— other chap was a bit of a minor player in it, so he- other chap was a bit of a minor player in it, so he got three yas— player in it, so he got three yas nut— player in it, so he got three yas nut yot— player in it, so he got three years. but yet eight years when youo— years. but yet eight years when you aotuatty— years. but yet eight years when you're actually allowing people tnat— you're actually allowing people tnat nawo— you're actually allowing people that have gone- you're actually allowing people that have gone on- you're actually allowing people that have gone on to murder peoplet— that have gone on to murder peoplet pimple— that have gone on to murder people, people that have been tnwowot— people, people that have been tnwowot tn— people, people that have been involved in very- people, people that have been involved in very high end drug ttatttottng— involved in very high end drug trafficking rings- involved in very high end drug trafficking rings that have been tosnonsttto— trafficking rings that have been responsible for- trafficking rings that have been responsible for armed criminality- responsible for armed criminality and very serious gnotous— criminality and very serious grievous bodily- criminality and very serious grievous bodily harm to individuals. _ grievous bodily harm to individuals. is eight years onougm— individuals. is eight years enough? well,— individuals. is eight years enough? well, i'm sure many noonto— enough? well, i'm sure many nootto woutt— enough? well, i'm sure many people would argue no. mark, mant— people would argue no. mark, thank you.— people would argue no. mark, thank you. mark- people would argue no. mark, thank you. mark white there, our homeland security editor. now, just another story. prince just on to another story. prince harry is involved in yet another high battle today. high court battle today. the duke is attempting to duke of sussex is attempting to bnng duke of sussex is attempting to bring second legal challenge bring a second legal challenge against the home office after his arrangements when his security arrangements when in uk that's what it's in in the uk that's what it's in relation to. harry is seeking the go ahead to secure a judicial review over a decision that he should not be allowed to

pay that he should not be allowed to pay privately for his protective security. i believe we can just cross now to the royal courts of justice, speak to gb news national reporter paul hawkins, who's the very latest who's got the very latest on this. another this. paul, another controversial involving this. paul, another controt harry. involving this. paul, another controtharry. what'svolving this. paul, another controtharry. what's going] this. paul, another controtharry. what's going on? prince harry. what's going on? yeah so this is a judicial review. that's yeah so this is a judicial review . that's what he's seeking review. that's what he's seeking of review. that's what he's seeking ot tnat— review. that's what he's seeking of that decision- review. that's what he's seeking of that decision by- ”cit that's what he's seeking of that decision by the home omoo— of that decision by the home omoo not— of that decision by the home office not to - of that decision by the home office not to let- of that decision by the home office not to let him pay for ms— office not to let him pay for no tomato— office not to let him pay for his private security. there is a sooont— his private security. there is a second judicial- his private security. there is a second judicial review application- second judicial review application that is going to go to ma— application that is going to go to ma ant— application that is going to go to trial and that- application that is going to go to trial and that covers wttnttaw— to trial and that covers withdraw the - to trial and that covers withdraw the security completely ttom — withdraw the security completely ttom ntm — withdraw the security completely ttom ntm .— withdraw the security completely ttom ntm . so — withdraw the security completely from him . so this- withdraw the security completely from him . so this is about who from him. so this is about who pays— from him. so this is about who pays tot— from him. so this is about who pays to ma— from him. so this is about who pays for that security if indeed moto— pays for that security if indeed tnoto ts— pays for that security if indeed tnoto ts a— pays for that security if indeed there is a successful review and it there is a successful review and t ts— there is a successful review and t ts put— there is a successful review and t ts put tn— there is a successful review and it is put in place- there is a successful review and it is put in place and it was onty— it is put in place and it was onty moant— it is put in place and it was only meant to- it is put in place and it was only meant to be a one hour noanng— only meant to be a one hour noanng wttn— only meant to be a one hour hearing with the- only meant to be a one hour hearing with the judgement due totay— hearing with the judgement due totay .— hearing with the judgement due totay , tt-s— hearing with the judgement due today , it's actually lasted all today, it's actually lasted all tay. — today, it's actually lasted all tay. tnoy— today, it's actually lasted all tay. tnoy mato— today, it's actually lasted all day. they have adjourned for the tay. — day. they have adjourned for the tay.|tutgomont— day. they have adjourned for the day. judgement made in day. a judgement will be made in due day. a judgement will be made in tuo-tnat— day. a judgement will be made in tuo-tnat ts— day. a judgement will be made in due-that is what- day. a judgement will be made in due that is what justice due course. that is what justice cnamtottatn— due course. that is what justice chamberlain has- due course. that is what justice chamberlain has said. we've noatt— chamberlain has said. we've noatt ttom — chamberlain has said. we've heard from lawyers the heard from lawyers for the metropolitan - heard from lawyers for the metropolitan police. heard metropolitan police. we've heard mom—tno— metropolitan police. we've heard from -the home- from lawyers for the home onto,— from lawyers for the home office, - heard - from lawyers for the home office, heard from lawyers from lawyers for the home off prince heard from lawyers from lawyers for the home off prince harry ard from lawyers from lawyers for the home off prince harry as from lawyers from lawyers for the home off prince harry as well. lawyers from lawyers for the home off prince harry as well. and/ers for prince harry as well. and ottootwoty— for prince harry as well. and effectively saying that for prince harry as well. and elook,iely saying that for prince harry as well. and elook,iely should saying that for prince harry as well. and e look, iely should be ying that for prince harry as well. and elook,iely should be allowed to , look, we should be allowed to pay— , look, we should be allowed to pay tot— , look, we should be allowed to pay tot-vou— , look, we should be allowed to pay for.you have- , look, we should be allowed to pay for you have these kind pay for it. you have these kind

of pay for it. you have these kind ot pnwato— pay for it. you have these kind of private arrangements where pnwato— of private arrangements where private individuals, private organisations,— private individuals, private organisations, i should say, tunt— organisations, i should say, tunt tno— organisations, i should say, fund the police- organisations, i should say, fund the police when it comes to ttggot— fund the police when it comes to bigger organisations such as toottatt— bigger organisations such as toottatt-ot- bigger organisations such as football or concerts. bigger organisations such as. football-or concerts. et football matches or concerts. et ootota— football matches or concerts. et ootota nut— football matches or concerts. et cetera. but the - football matches or concerts. et cetera. but the home office have atguot— cetera. but the home office have atguot toot,— cetera. but the home office have argued, look, that's- cetera. but the home office have argued, look, that's different , argued, look, that's different, ngnto— argued, look, that's different, right? because- argued, look, that's different, right? because it- argued, look, that's different, right? because it happens on pntato— right? because it happens on pntato tant— right? because it happens on private land and- right? because it happens on private land and we can't have the private land and we can't have to pottoo— private land and we can't have the police being- private land and we can't have the police being paid for by pntato— the police being paid for by private individuals that would notmtutno— private individuals that would undermine public interest in puttto— undermine public interest in public interest- undermine public interest in public interest and public confidence- public interest and public confidence in- public interest and public confidence in the police otttoots— confidence in the police officers themselves. also, when tnoy— officers themselves. also, when tnoy — officers themselves. also, when tnoy oanytng— officers themselves. also, when they are carrying out private soounty— they are carrying out private security arrangements, you need spootattst— security arrangements, you need specialist police - security arrangements, you need specialist police officers that come from ravec. that's the oommtttoo— come from ravec. that's the committee that- come from ravec. that's the committee that decides on who nas— committee that decides on who nas potsonat— committee that decides on who has personal police protection on ant— has personal police protection on ant tnat— has personal police protection on and that we- has personal police protection on and that we can't just have any— on and that we can't just have any otttoots— on and that we can't just have any officers taking out this ttnt— any officers taking out this ttnt ot— any officers taking out this kind of deciding on who gets potootot— kind of deciding on who gets protected, etcetera. so they've ttntsnot— protected, etcetera. so they've ttntsnot tot— protected, etcetera. so they've finished for the _ protected, etcetera. so they've finished for the day here. it wttt— finished for the day here. it wttt go— finished for the day here. it wttt go to— finished for the day here. it will go to there- finished for the day here. it will go to there will be a tutgomont— will go to there will be a judgement handed down in due course and that- judgement handed down in due course and that will decide who pays— course and that will decide who pays tot— course and that will decide who pays to ma— course and that will decide who pays for that security, whether natty,— pays for that security, whether natty, wnotnot— pays for that security, whether harry, whether that goes to a tutt— harry, whether that goes to a tutt tuttotat— harry, whether that goes to a full judicial review, i should say,— full judicial review, i should say-snott- full judicial review, i should gay-gang pay- full judicial review, i should say, should pay for that say, on who should pay for that potsonat— say, on who should pay for that personal—that- say, on who should pay for that personal that police personal protection, that police ptotootton— personal protection, that police protection-paul, - personal protection, that police protection.paul,-youi

personal protection, that police. protection . paul, -you very protection. paul, thank you very much. hawkins, national much. paul hawkins, our national reporter. the royal reporter. he's outside the royal courts of justice. let me know what think about that. it's what you think about that. it's got absolute height of got to be the absolute height of arrogance, hasn't it? it's got to height of arrogance to be the height of arrogance that could come over that someone could come over here left this country here having left this country and trashed it the way out and trashed it on the way out and trashed it on the way out and then come over here and want to police officers off the to take police officers off the beat from protecting ordinary british middle beat from protecting ordinary br knife middle beat from protecting ordinary br knife epidemics. dle beat from protecting ordinary br knife epidemics. et of knife crime epidemics. et cetera. and monitor him, i cetera. to go and monitor him, i just find that absolutely staggering. be talking staggering. we'll be talking about more. yes, about that a lot more. but yes, loads more to come between now and is now and 4:00. rishi sunak is now under the under fire after launching the biggest tax raid in 44 years. 1 in 5 are going to be in 5 people are going to be sucked into the higher tax band and we discuss the comments and we will discuss the comments from mp about marriage from a tory mp about marriage that plenty of that have caused plenty of controversy. should you just blindly for the blindly stay together for the sake the kids? but now as sake of the kids? but now as your headlines with tamson . your headlines with tamson. patrick, thanks very much. here are the headlines at 333- i ti here are the headlines at 333 three wno— are the headlines at 333 three men who supplied fake passports to onmtnats— men who supplied fake passports to criminals have- men who supplied fake passports to criminals have been jailed.

antnony— to criminals have been jailed. anthony beard- to criminals have been jailed. anthony beard ,- to criminals have been jailed. anthony beard , christopher btec anthony beard, christopher btec and anthony beard, christopher btec ant atan— anthony beard, christopher btec and alan thompson helped murderers and- and alan thompson helped murderers and drug dealers evade tusttoo— murderers and drug dealers evade tusttoo. boat— murderers and drug dealers evade justice. beard, who- murderers and drug dealers evade justice. beard, who paid vulnerable- justice. beard, who paid vulnerable people for their oxpttot— vulnerable people for their expired documents, was sentenced to sto— expired documents, was sentenced to stx yoas— expired documents, was sentenced to stx yoats ant— expired documents, was sentenced to six years and eight months. his accomplices,— to six years and eight months. his accomplices, btec and tnompson— his accomplices, btec and thompson, will- his accomplices, btec and thompson, will serve a combined totm — thompson, will serve a combined totm ot— thompson, will serve a combined totm ot t— thompson, will serve a combined totm ot tt yoas— thompson, will serve a combined term of 11 years .— thompson, will serve a combined term of 11 years . essex police term of 11 years. essex police is investigating- term of 11 years. essex police is investigating an allegation of is investigating an allegation ot sotous— is investigating an allegation of serious sexual- is investigating an allegation of serious sexual assault agatnst— of serious sexual assault against solihull mp julian tntgnt.— against solihull mp julian tntgnt. tt— against solihull mp julian knight. it follows a referral by soottant— knight. it follows a referral by scotland yard - knight. it follows a referral by scotland yard and comes after the scotland yard and comes after to not— scotland yard and comes after the met police- scotland yard and comes after the met police dropped its investigation- the met police dropped its investigation into a claim more tnan— investigation into a claim more man a— investigation into a claim more man a montn— investigation into a claim more than a month ago.— investigation into a claim more than a month ago. mr knight, who was than a month ago. mr knight, who stnppot— than a month ago. mr knight, who stnppot ot— than a month ago. mr knight, who was stripped of the- than a month ago. mr knight, who was stripped of the conservative wntp— was stripped of the conservative nip, nas— was stripped of the conservative whip, has denied- was stripped of the conservative whip, has denied what he tosontot— whip, has denied what he described as- whip, has denied what he described as a- whip, has denied what he described as a false and malicious- described as a false and malicious accusation . he doesn't malicious accusation. he doesn't ptan— malicious accusation. he doesn't ptan to— malicious accusation. he doesn't ptan to tun— malicious accusation. he doesn't ptan to at— malicious accusation. he doesn't plan to run at the- malicious accusation. he doesn't plan to run at the next election . tno— plan to run at the next election . the environment- plan to run at the next election . the environment secretary has sttossot— . the environment secretary has sttossot tno— . the environment secretary has stressed the importance of an attottatto— stressed the importance of an attottatto .— stressed the importance of an affordable , sustainable and affordable, sustainable and tostttont— affordable, sustainable and resilient food- affordable, sustainable and resilient food supply chain at the resilient food supply chain at to to— resilient food supply chain at to to tatm — resilient food supply chain at the to farm fork- resilient food supply chain at the to farm fork summit in towntng— the to farm fork summit in downing street- the to farm fork summit in downing street . the government downing street. the government is downing street. the government ts ptomtstng— downing street. the government ts ptomtstng a— downing street. the government is promising a fairer price for tatmots— is promising a fairer price for farmers produce- is promising a fairer price for farmers produce and has pledged

to got— farmers produce and has pledged to got moto— farmers produce and has pledged to got ot— farmers produce and has pledged to get more of their product on supotmattot— to get more of their product on supermarket shelves. the latest ttgutos— supermarket shelves. the latest ttgutos snow— supermarket shelves. the latest figures show meat, yoghurt and wogotattos— figures show meat, yoghurt and vegetables are- figures show meat, yoghurt and vegetables are just some of the toms— vegetables are just some of the ttoms tnat— vegetables are just some of the items that have- vegetables are just some of the items that have doubled in price oompatot— items that have doubled in price oompatot to— items that have doubled in price oompatot to a— items that have doubled in price compared to a year- items that have doubled in price compared to a year ago, amid ntgn— compared to a year ago, amid high inflation.— compared to a year ago, amid high inflation. anne therese cottoy— high inflation. anne therese cottoy says— high inflation. anne therese coffey says the - high inflation. anne therese coffey says the package of measures will- coffey says the package of measures will boost the food supply— measures will boost the food suppty onan— measures will boost the food supply chain and grow the oonomy— supply chain and grow the economy . the- supply chain and grow the economy . the head of the royal economy. the head of the royal cottogo— economy. the head of the royal cottogo ot— economy. the head of the royal college of nursing- economy. the head of the royal college of nursing is urging unon— college of nursing is urging union members- college of nursing is urging union members to vote in favour of union members to vote in favour ot tuttnot— union members to vote in favour of further walkouts- union members to vote in favour of further walkouts to strengthen - of further walkouts to strengthen her hand in negotiations- strengthen her hand in negotiations with the government at a— negotiations with the government at a postat— negotiations with the government at a postal ballot- negotiations with the government at a postal ballot on new strike wtt— at a postal ballot on new strike wttt opon— at a postal ballot on new strike wttt opon nont— at a postal ballot on new strike will open next week after the tow— will open next week after the root tumot— will open next week after the rcn turned down a 5% pay rise tnts— rcn turned down a 5% pay rise to yoa— rcn turned down a 5% pay rise to yoat ant— rcn turned down a 5% pay rise to yoat ant a— rcn turned down a 5% pay rise this year and a one off payment for this year and a one off payment tot tast— this year and a one off payment tot tast yoa— this year and a one off payment tot tast yoat .— this year and a one off payment for last year . addressing the for last year. addressing the annut— for last year. addressing the annual conference, pat cullen says— annual conference, pat cullen says to — annual conference, pat cullen says the government will be totoot— says the government will be totoot to — says the government will be forced to improve their offer if the forced to improve their offer if to mom— forced to improve their offer if the union has- forced to improve their offer if the union has another six month stato— the union has another six month strike mandate- the union has another six month strike mandate tv- the union has another six month strike mandate tv online dab+ tatto— strike mandate tv online dab+ tatto ant— strike mandate tv online dab+ tatto ant on— strike mandate tv online dab+ radio and on tune- strike mandate tv online dab+ radio and on tune in. this is. on— radio and on tune in. this is. on tows. — radio and on tune in. this is. gb news. direct-

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nurses and fitters, electricians . tomtng— nurses and fitters, electricians . tomtng us— nurses and fitters, electricians .tommg us now— nurses and fitters, electricians . joining us now is our economics and business editor ttam— economics and business editor ttam tatttgan— economics and business editor liam halligan with on the money . okay,— liam halligan with on the money . totay, tots— liam halligan with on the money . okay, tots to— liam halligan with on the money . okay, lots to get- liam halligan with on the money . okay, lots to get stuck into noto— . okay, lots to get stuck into noto. snat— . okay, lots to get stuck into here. shall we- . okay, lots to get stuck into here. shall we start with the omptoymont— here. shall we start with the employment side of things first? wat— employment side of things first? well, unemployment,— employment side of things first? well, unemployment, yeah,- employment side of things first? well, unemployment, yeah, it is up slightly, but let's just talk about wages first. patrick i just want to get that out of the way because that's the real headune way because that's the real headline number out from the office for national statistics this morning. it's office for national statistics this morning . it's old, this morning. it's the same old, same old, afraid . big same old, i'm afraid. big sounding increases in wages, but they're even bigger they're less than even bigger increases cost of living increases in the cost of living if you look at private sector wages. so of work in the wages. so 4/5 of us work in the private sector where they've gone by 7% during the first gone up by 7% during the first three months of the year. from january to march to january to march compared to january to march compared to january march to march 2022. january and march to march 2022. pubuc january and march to march 2022. public sector pay is up 5.6. but look at that inflation in march, 10.1% year on year. so still big wage increases , completely wage increases, completely swamped by increases in the cost of living. that's why what we

call real wages, allowing for living standards are still falling. and on to what you were saying now unemployment, the labour market more broadly. well, we know that in march we lost oh five, we lost over half a million days to strike action there. that was up from 330,000 days that we lost in february . days that we lost in february. in fact, it was 800,000in january. tons of industrial action during the first quarter of this year. there's that unemployment number up by three point up to 3.9. now, that's slightly up from 3.8, not the massive unemployment of the 80s and the early 90s, but still ticking up and the number there that a lot of people are talking about, emailing us gbviews@gbnews.uk. 2.55 million people an increase of a quarter of a million on the long term sick . yes, that's getting sick. yes, that's getting sickness benefit, getting sick pay sickness benefit, getting sick pay from work. there's a lot of people who have just not gone back to work. there are after the pandemic. there are. in fact, let's just talk

ti. "bit; t?it:i; in fact, let's just talk about that a ttttto — fact, let's just talk about that a little . more, - fact, let's just talk about that a little more, because it a little bit more, because it tos— a little bit more, because it ttos-tow— a little bit more, because it ties -few topics. . a little bit more, because it ties few topics. this ties into a few topics. this toatty— ties into a few topics. this toatty. so— ties into a few topics. this really. so the- ties into a few topics. this really. so the first one is about— really. so the first one is about braverman really. so the first one is about-braverman quite really. so the first one is aifew -braverman quite really. so the first one is aifew people braverman quite really. so the first one is aifew people are lerman quite really. so the first one is aifew people are also an quite really. so the first one is aifew people are also saying,quite a few people are also saying, toot,— a few people are also saying, toot, wo— a few people are also saying, look, we need- a few people are also saying, look, we need to- a few people are also saying, look, we need to do more to get nnttsn— look, we need to do more to get nnttsn poopto— look, we need to do more to get british people into- look, we need to do more to get british people into work. wages can british people into work. wages oanlttntot— british people into work. wages can . linked to - british people into work. wages can linked to massively can be linked to that massively ant— can be linked to that massively and-companies- can be linked to that massively and companies abilities to and the companies abilities to omptoy—tatounl employ cheap foreign labour, otootota. — employ cheap foreign labour, etcetera. - now - etcetera. this idea now of poopto— etcetera. this idea now of pang-get,- etcetera. this idea now of people sick, know that people off sick, we know that tno— people off sick, we know that tno-got— people off sick, we know that tno-got a— people off sick, we know that tno-got a nugo- people off sick, we know that the got a huge backlog, the nhs has got a huge backlog, so too— the nhs has got a huge backlog, so too wtt— the nhs has got a huge backlog, so there will be- the nhs has got a huge backlog, so there will be a- the nhs has got a huge backlog, so there will be a lot of that. nut— so there will be a lot of that. out to— so there will be a lot of that. out to you— so there will be a lot of that. but do you think- so there will be a lot of that. but do you think that- so there will be a lot of that. but do you think that we're also quite a lot of people who are maybe the take bit after maybe on the take a bit after covid? i mean, how is this wotttng— covid? i mean, how is this wotttng outo— co “j? i mean, how is this working out? because it's not as ompto— working out? because it's not as gmppg, ts— working out? because it's not as gang, ts tt— working out? because it's not as stmpto. ts p, as— working out? because it's not as simple, is it, as saying brits ato-tazy— simple, is it, as saying brits ato-tazy to— simple, is it, as saying brits are lazy to work? "

institute for fiscal studies that about what we call that talks about what we call tax thresholds. you and i've talked about this in the past, patrick. paying patrick. now you start paying tax at about 12.5 grand and you start paying the top rate of tax 40% at at just over £50,000. if you're lucky enough to earn that much a year now because those tax thresholds have been frozen by then. chancellor sunak and now chancellor jeremy hunt, they've been frozen until 2027. you get this thing called fiscal drag , which is you get this thing called fiscal drag, which is as you get this thing called fiscal drag , which is as inflation goes drag, which is as inflation goes up as wages go up, more and more of our money is caught by these tax brackets because the tax brackets are staying where they are. so you're dragged into a higher tax bracket. now, back in the early 90s, maybe 2 million brits paid top rate of tax. yeah it's soon going to be almost 10 million. yeah, it's a huge , huge million. yeah, it's a huge, huge increase. it's going to we're getting on now for 40% of all sorry, a quarter of all taxpayers will be paying tax at

about quarter, 40, which is absolutely huge. so not particularly well off . policemen particularly well off. policemen and women, nurses , fitters, as and women, nurses, fitters, as you said , these aren't high paid you said, these aren't high paid jobs. and yet people will be paying jobs. and yet people will be paying the top rate of tax at 40. yeah, i think they should. as a basic rule of thumb, it woutt— as a basic rule of thumb, it woutt to— as a basic rule of thumb, it would be nice- as a basic rule of thumb, it would be nice if- as a basic rule of thumb, it would be nice if everyone who paytng— would be nice if everyone who paytng tno— would be nice if everyone who was paying the top rate of tax tott— was paying the top rate of tax tott nto— was paying the top rate of tax felt like they _ was paying the top rate of tax felt like they were a top rate taxpayon — felt like they were a top rate taxpayer. that's- felt like they were a top rate taxpayer. that's right. you felt tnat— taxpayer. that's right. you felt mat-nat— taxpayer. that's right. you felt tnat-nat yout— taxpayer. that's right. you felt that had your house or you that you had your house or you nat— that you had your house or you natlttt— that you had your house or you natlttt ot— that you had your house or you hadlbit of money- that you had your house or you had bit of money in the bank had a bit of money in the bank or had a bit of money in the bank on wnatowon— had a bit of money in the bank or whatever, right?— had a bit of money in the bank or whatever, right? you felt comfortable.— or whatever, right? you felt comfortable. but that not the comfortable. but that is not the toattty. — comfortable. but that is not the toattty. .tnts— comfortable. but that is not the reality. .this i pretty- reality. and this is pretty shocking— reality. and this is pretty shocking actually, shocking stuff, actually, when you—the- you think about it. the idea that— you think about it. the idea that firemen— you think about it. the idea that firemen and officers that firemen and police officers could— that firemen and police officers could be— that firemen and police officers could be considered top rate taxpayers,— could be considered top rate taxpayers, they— could be considered top rate taxpayers, they don't feel like it. taxpayers, they don't feel like an. |nnean— taxpayers, they don't feel like it. mean, scandal, it. i mean, it's a scandal, inn-n— it. i mean, it's a scandal, int n? — it. i mean, it's a scandal, int n? n— it. i mean, it's a scandal, isn't it? | think- it. i mean, it's a scandal, isn't it? | think it- it. i mean, it's a scandal, isn't it.7 c ': isn't it.7 i think it is. and a lot of a lot of politicians are angry about it. even labour are getting about it. and they getting angry about it. and they tend a bit more relaxed tend to be a bit more relaxed about tax and it's about high rates of tax and it's about high rates of tax and it's a stealth tax. patrick it isn't. look, this fiscal drag, the increase, they're no, increase, the ifs, they're no, they're no, usually of they're no, they usually sort of quite state and quite like the state and taxation. institute for taxation. the institute for fiscal they're not sort fiscal studies. they're not sort of tory backbenchers by any

means. have pointed means. but the ifs have pointed out the action of this out that the action of this fiscal these tax fiscal drag, these stealth tax is pulled into higher tax is being pulled into higher tax brackets because tax brackets because the tax thresholds by thresholds are frozen by politicians as it's the equivalent over the next five years of get it, get this for p on the basic rate of income tax. imagine a headline for p increase on the basic rate of income tax from 20 to 24. you know, the media would would would erupt, our politics would collapse. we'd have a collective nervous breakdown. but that is what's happening. reality. that's what's happening because we're not good enough at explaining to ordinary punters what drag actually what fiscal drag actually is, which i'm now waving my which is why i'm now waving my hands around . i love it. i love hands around. i love it. i love to see someone get so passionate about this. it's interesting to try about this. it's interesting to an na— about this. it's interesting to try to consider— about this. it's interesting to try to consider what- it's interesting to try to consider what the alternative _ try to consider what the alternative would m; try to consider what the- alternative would .we do that alternative would be. we do that nann— alternative would be. we do that rather here. so of labour rather a lot here. so of labour come out and said they would change any of this. they change any of this. no, they haven't, but they're sort of huffing puffing. and i huffing and puffing. and look, i just think huffing and puffing. and look, i jana annk ane— huffing and puffing. and look, i just think the state— huffing and puffing. and look, i just think the state is- g a“: q and look, i just think the state is now a nann— just think the state is now a nan-nigger- just think the state is now a much, bigger chunk of the much, much bigger chunk of the eonomy— much, much bigger chunk of the eeonomaeey-a— much, much bigger chunk of the economy-used-wel economy than it used to be. we men— economy than it used to be. we men need— economy than it used to be. we no neealnna— economy than it used to be. we just need find ways to spend just need to find ways to spend tees.— just need to find ways to spend

less. -instance,- just need to find ways to spend less.-instance, if- just need to find ways to spend less. instance, if we less. so, for instance, if we omn— less. so, for instance, if we built-social- less. so, for instance, if we built social housing, we built some social housing, we woman-n— built some social housing, we wouldn't have— built some social housing, we wouldn't have to— built some social housing, we wouldn't have to pay housing tenem— wouldn't have to pay housing benefit-eo— wouldn't have to pay housing benefit-so many- wouldn't have to pay housing benefit so many people every benefit for so many people every yea.— benefit for so many people every yea. non— benefit for so many people every yea. non-people- benefit for so many people every year. you people are year. you know, people are emitted— year. you know, people are entitled no— year. you know, people are entitled to a— year. you know, people are entitled to a stable, secure nome— entitled to a stable, secure home even if— entitled to a stable, secure home even if they can't afford m— home even if they can't afford m me— home even if they can't afford one in the open— home even if they can't afford one in the open market. i would aways— one in the open market. i would always omnon— one in the open market. i would always support that. the always support that. so the state— always support that. so the state-build- always support that. so the state build more always support that. so the- state-build more homes state needs to build more homes namen— state needs to build more homes nannen onan— state needs to build more homes rather than paying— state needs to build more homes rather than paying out housing teneme— rather than paying out housing nenenne no— rather than paying out housing benefits to private sector aanaaonae— benefits to private sector landlords-on - benefits to private sector landlords on year. we're landlords year on year. we're epenamg— landlords year on year. we're now spending upwards of 25 or eoo— now spending upwards of 25 or aoo mmon— now spending upwards of 25 or £30 billion a— now spending upwards of 25 or £30 billion a year— now spending upwards of 25 or £30 billion a year on that nonsmo— £30 billion a year on that housing benefit. a huge chunk of money — housing benefit. a huge chunk of moey wneneae— housing benefit. a huge chunk of money. whereas if— housing benefit. a huge chunk of money. whereas if we actually omn— money. whereas if we actually nano ome— money. whereas if we actually built some houses, some council nonsmo— built some houses, some council momma ome— built some houses, some council housing, some social housing, we oomo— housing, some social housing, we oomo pretty— housing, some social housing, we could pretty soon— housing, some social housing, we could pretty soon start to save onao— could pretty soon start to save onao money — could pretty soon start to save that money. and— could pretty soon start to save that money. and as- could pretty soon start to save that money. ' z could pretty soon start to save that money. ' “2 2 g that money. and as you rightly said again, if you're said as well, again, if you're being asked to pay a higher being asked to pay a much higher rate of tax , you would like to rate of tax, you would like to feel as though you were getting the experience of that tax rate, feel as though you were getting the great ience of that tax rate, feel as though you were getting the great publicf that tax rate, feel as though you were getting the great public servicesx rate, feel as though you were getting the great public services and e, i.e. great public services and what not. i.e. great public services and whatnot. and i.e. great public services and what not. and there's a double nnammy— what not. and there's a double whammy because— and there's a double whammy because we're all eamenng— whammy because we're all eamenng-a— whammy because we're all suffering-a cost- whammy because we're all suffering a cost living suffering from a cost of living enem— suffering from a cost of living crisis-inflation— suffering from a cost of living crisis inflation going up crisis as inflation is going up ana— crisis as inflation is going up amo-neon— crisis as inflation is going up and below inflation pay and yet are below inflation pay noes— and yet are below inflation pay rises more of— and yet are below inflation pay rises more of those below melanom— rises more of those below inflation pay— rises more of those below inflation pay rises are going on tax.— inflation pay rises are going on nan. ne— inflation pay rises are going on nan. no no— inflation pay rises are going on tax. it's no wonder— inflation pay rises are going on tax. it's no wonder people feel eaaeezea. — tax. it's no wonder people feel squeezed. yeah,— tax. it's no wonder people feel squeezed. yeah, they feel

squeezed— squeezed. yeah, they feel eoaeezea . — squeezed. yeah, they feel squeezed . it's- squeezed. yeah, they feel squeezed . 2 squeezed. yeah, they feel squeezed. 2 squeezed. yeah, they feel squeezed . 2 2 2 squeezed. it's just it doesn't feel like value for money. it just does not feel like value for money. and i think people are right to be quite angry about all of this. you know, you're not really getting what you're not really getting what you feel like you're paying for. liam, liam liam, thank you very much. liam halligan our economics and business editor. okay. so business editor. right. okay. so this interesting. this is interesting. a tory mp has made very controversial has made some very controversial comments about marriage and why between a woman this comments about marriage and why be so een a woman this comments about marriage and why be so een controversial woman this comments about marriage and why besoeen controversial iniman this comments about marriage and why besoeen controversial in that this is so it's controversial in that instance begin with, but also instance to begin with, but also why he it's the only basis why he says it's the only basis for a safe functioning for a safe and functioning society opens real society and it opens up a real can worms. this or should you can of worms. this or should you just stay together for just blindly stay together for the of kids .7 i'm the sake of the kids? i'm patrick christys on gb news britain's

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trick.org. .uk slash public poll to cast your vote. there we go . to cast your vote. there we go. right. okay, so this was controversial. i'd be keen to get your views on this. actually almost half of all marriages end in divorce. so should parents try to stay together for the sake of their children and society? tory mp danny kruger certainly thinks so. he made the following comments yesterday at the national conservatism conference . a normative family conference. a normative family nem— conference. a normative family neaa nogemen— conference. a normative family held together by— “72262 a normative family held together by marriage by momen— held together by marriage by none ana— held together by marriage by mother and father sticking nogemen— mother and father sticking together for— mother and father sticking together for the sake of the eminen— together for the sake of the children and— together for the sake of the children and the sake of their parente— children and the sake of their own parents and— children and the sake of their own parents and the sake of memeenee.— own parents and the sake of themselves. this— own parents and the sake of themselves. this is the only possible— themselves. this is the only possible basis— themselves. this is the only possible basis for a safe and successful— possible basis for a safe and successful society . motty okay, successful society. motty okay, so very— successful society. motty okay, so very obviously— successful society. motty okay, so very obviously two controversial- so very obviously two controversial things there. a; controversial things there. he sam— controversial things there. he and a— controversial things there. he said a mother— controversial things there. he said a mother and— controversial things there. he said a mother and a- controversial things there. he said a mother and a father that has caused some offence with same sex couples. i can see why . he's also saying of course there that you should essentially stay together just for the sake of the kids. now we'll get stuck into this, shall we? so let's chat with the chief executive of christian concern, andrea williams , and divorce andrea williams, and divorce lawyer lloyd platt . both

lawyer vanessa lloyd platt. both of you, thank you very much. i normally ladies first, but normally do. ladies first, but it's impossible it? it's impossible here, isn't it? so who to first? andrea, so who do i go to first? andrea, i'll go to you, chief executive of christian andrea of christian concern, andrea williams. mean, williams. is he right? i mean, it's obviously preferable , isn't it's obviously preferable, isn't it, for parents to stay together for the sake of the kids? is that right? absolutely because all the social statistics- g“27 ' 262g because all the social statistics show onan— all the social statistics show that children _ all the social statistics show that children do— all the social statistics show that children do much better onen— that children do much better nnen oney— that children do much better when they are— that children do much better when they are in— that children do much better when they are in a home with a manned— when they are in a home with a married mother— when they are in a home with a married mother and father . when they are in a home with a married mother and father. ' 2 married mother and father. and so we want to— married mother and father. and so we want to see— married mother and father. and so we want to see children flourishing in society . and so we want to see children flourishing in society. and i think it's one of the- 2 2 “ 2 22 and i think it's one of the sad statistics— think it's one of the sad statistics in— think it's one of the sad statistics in our culture right onao— statistics in our culture right onao eo— statistics in our culture right now that so many children are in single— now that so many children are in single parent— now that so many children are in single parent households , in single parent households, in ion..— single parent households, in ion. parent— single parent households, in lone parent households, 23% of our lone parent households, 23% of ennanen. — lone parent households, 23% of our children. _ lone parent households, 23% of our children. in— lone parent households, 23% of our children. >“ ”gang lone parent households, 23% of our children. “ ”32.2 lone parent households, 23% of our children. “ ”522.2 our children. in fact, this year are in lone parent households. and that's a staggering 10% higher than all our european counterparts, where it's 13. so we must there must be something happening in our nation at this time which is discouraging people somehow to actually work,

to fight for their marriage and for their family to fight for their marriage and for theirfamily. okay. to fight for their marriage and for their family. okay. now i'm fortheirfamily. okay. now i'm going— fortheirfamily. okay. now i'm going no— fortheirfamily. okay. now i'm going no bring— fortheirfamily. okay. now i'm going no bring m— 2 e,’ okay. now i'm going to bring in divorce lawyer vaneeea— going to bring in divorce lawyer vanea uoya— going to bring in divorce lawyer vanessa lloyd platt. and i mean, reopen,— vanessa lloyd platt. and i mean, respect a— vanessa lloyd platt. and i mean, we've respect, i suppose you maybe— we've respect, i suppose you maybe nave— we've respect, i suppose you maybe nave a— we've respect, i suppose you maybe have a little bit of skin in maybe have a little bit of skin m one— maybe have a little bit of skin m me game— maybe have a little bit of skin in the game when it comes to, wen,— in the game when it comes to, wean, eaymg— in the game when it comes to, well, saying that— in the game when it comes to, well, saying that divorce sometimes— well, saying that divorce sometimes can be good thing . sometimes can be a good thing. van.— sometimes can be a good thing. veu. ne— sometimes can be a good thing. veu. we aon-e— sometimes can be a good thing. well, we don't ever— sometimes can be a good thing. well, we don't ever say- sometimes can be a good thing. well, we don't ever say divorce is a great thing, but what this naive statement is going to cause such dismay , thistle and cause such dismay, thistle and distress to so many people that have gone through divorces or going through them. now, what it misses and the entire point it misses, is that a lot of times it's not one person fault that this has happened. for example , this has happened. for example, if someone is in a relationship and their partner's run off with someone else, is it there fault? should they be blamed? should they be criticised that that has happened ? if, for example, the happened? if, for example, the partners died and there are one parent family, should they be criticised for that? for not being a two parent family or if they've been subjected to years

of domestic abuse ? and finally, of domestic abuse? and finally, courage to leave that scenario should they be criticised and made to feel like they're inferior to a two parent family? arnie it is naive and destructive and it is about time. that narrative is dismissed. i get that. i'm going to put dismissed. i get that. i'm going no one mose— dismissed. i get that. i'm going to put those points— dismissed. i get that. i'm going to put those points very,- 2 2 222 i'm going to put those points very, very quicklv- — to put those points very, very quickly- anyway— to put those points very, very quickly. anyway to andrea. but before— quickly. anyway to andrea. but before a— quickly. anyway to andrea. but before a ao— quickly. anyway to andrea. but before r ao ,— quickly. anyway to andrea. but before i do , vanessa, i'd just before i do, vanessa, i'd just vne— before i do, vanessa, i'd just be fo— before i do, vanessa, i'd just be fo aer— before i do, vanessa, i'd just like to ask you,— before i do, vanessa, i'd just like to ask you, what about this babb— like to ask you, what about this boon for— like to ask you, what about this poem for no— like to ask you, what about this push for no fault— like to ask you, what about this push for no fault divorces ? push for no fault divorces? became— push for no fault divorces? because that— push for no fault divorces? because that to- push for no fault divorces? because that to me just appears to because that to me just appears fo be— because that to me just appears fo be baby— because that to me just appears ro be fazy from— because that to me just appears to be lazy from the— because that to me just appears to be lazy from the parents aon-f— to be lazy from the parents aon-f ger— to be lazy from the parents don't get married and have kids. if don't get married and have kids. rf yoa— don't get married and have kids. rf yon inef— don't get married and have kids. if you just think— don't get married and have kids. if you just think maybe on a nnfm— if you just think maybe on a whim without— if you just think maybe on a whim without any need for a baby,— whim without any need for a baby, rye— whim without any need for a baby, rye gone— whim without any need for a baby, i've gone off you a little bff. — baby, i've gone off you a little bff. so— baby, i've gone off you a little bff. so were— baby, i've gone off you a little bit. so we're just— baby, i've gone off you a little bit. so we're just going to abbr— bit. so we're just going to spur ab.— bit. so we're just going to spur ab. ana— bit. so we're just going to split up. and that for me is maybe— split up. and that for me is maybe onene— split up. and that for me is maybe where i— split up. and that for me is maybe where i would draw the vne.— maybe where i would draw the bne. vo— maybe where i would draw the line. no fault— maybe where i would draw the line. no fault divorces. it just bazy. — line. no fault divorces. it just seems lazy. well,- line. no fault divorces. it just seems lazy. �*fvb222 2 line. no fault divorces. it just seems lazy. �*vvr�*rz;22 line. no fault divorces. it just seems lazy. well, it's not basic . no fault divorce was brought in because of the acrimony caused by trying to blame one or other of the parties . is it set other of the parties. is it set the whole divorce scenario off on a very aggressive footing. so

after years and years of all of us arguing this has got to go, all it means is that we're not blaming the other party, as was happening in so many divorces , happening in so many divorces, because they had to fit into artificial categories. but the reason why the statistics have gone through the roof is there is so much more stress in society motty but it doesn't mean these people are inferior because they choose to split up because they choose to split up because they choose to split up because they simply cannot live together. there's also contrary statistics that show where parents are arguing very violently together. it has a terrible impact on children . i terrible impact on children. i can see. i can. absolutely. i r— can see. i can. absolutely. i r very— can see. i can. absolutely. i can. i can very clearly believe maf— can. i can very clearly believe fnaf foo. — can. i can very clearly believe fnaf foo. ana— can. i can very clearly believe that 100. and i'm— can. i can very clearly believe that 100. and i'm going to put maf— that 100. and i'm going to put fnaf fo— that100. and i'm going to put fnaf fo yon— that 100. and i'm going to put that to you, andrea. you know, nnaf— that to you, andrea. you know, nnaf aboar— that to you, andrea. you know, what about families where mum and baa— what about families where mum and bad are— what about families where mum and dad are at— what about families where mum and dad are at each other's fbroafe— and dad are at each other's throats, left,— and dad are at each other's throats, left, right and centre? mere-e— throats, left, right and centre? fnere-e maybe— throats, left, right and centre? there's maybe violence in the nome— there's maybe violence in the bone ana— there's maybe violence in the none and, you— there's maybe violence in the home and, you know, are you reafby— home and, you know, are you reafby going— home and, you know, are you reafby going fo— home and, you know, are you really going to tell them fney-ve — really going to tell them rney-ve .gof- really going to tell them they've - got to - really going to tell them they've got to work it for they've just got to work it for me— they've just got to work it for me eave — they've just got to work it for me sake of— they've just got to work it for the sake of the— they've just got to work it for the sake of the kids? i think

fra— the sake of the kids? i think no beare— the sake of the kids? i think it's because we have pretty much pred it's because we have pretty much ripped up . the beauty and just ripped up. the beauty and just how important and serious marriage is in our society that we are ending up with this kind of very low view of marriage. you know , the truth is this, you know, the truth is this, that once upon a time we would we would be told before entering into marriage that it's a serious lifetime union one serious lifetime union of one man one woman, to not be man and one woman, to not be entered into lightly or unadvisedly . but then when in it unadvisedly. but then when in it that we needed to actually really work hard at it and to submit to one another, to love one another, to really work , to one another, to really work, to stay together for the sake of the children who better when their mother and father are really working to love one another to and love them well. and we know that people are doing that . you don't think doing that. you don't think there are millions of people across the country trying to do that, but where it's impossible . but you before we before

before— . but you before we before before you— . but you before we before before you two _ but you before we before before you two need to have a more — before you two need to have a more bray.— before you two need to have a divorce. okay. but— before you two need to have a divorce. okay. but we're reopen,— divorce. okay. but we're respect, vanessa, when you look onen— respect, vanessa, when you look nnen yon — respect, vanessa, when you look nnen you book— respect, vanessa, when you look when you look at— respect, vanessa, when you look when you look at some of these frames,— when you look at some of these ffgaree r— when you look at some of these ffgaree, r mean— when you look at some of these figures, i mean, it— when you look at some of these figures, i mean, it is shockingly- figures, i mean, it is shockingly i- figures, i mean, it is shockingly i mean, clearly, nearby,— shockingly i mean, clearly, clearly, clearly— shockingly i mean, clearly, clearly, clearly there are beobfe— clearly, clearly there are beobfe-are- clearly, clearly there are beobbe-are ,- clearly, clearly there are people are , you know, clearly, clearly there are- people-are , you know, going people who are, you know, going on a few— people who are, you know, going on a few dates— people who are, you know, going on a few dates or— people who are, you know, going on a few dates or being with someone forlyear- on a few dates or being with someone for year who get down someone for a year who get down on-vnee— someone for a year who get down on-vnee beae— someone for a year who get down on-knee because it's- someone for a year who get down on knee because it's a nice on one knee because it's a nice fnfng— on one knee because it's a nice mne-ao— on one knee because it's a nice mne-ao-bnng- on one knee because it's a nice thing-do,-bringlkid| thing to do, maybe bring a kid fnfo— thing to do, maybe bring a kid fnfo-mfx— thing to do, maybe bring a kid fnfo-mfx ana— thing to do, maybe bring a kid into-mix and then- thing to do, maybe bring a kid into mix and then think, into the mix and then think, goodness— into the mix and then think, goodness gracious me, not goodness gracious me, i've not fnoaanf— goodness gracious me, i've not momm—ana- goodness gracious me, i've not thought—and that| thought this through. and that maef— thought this through. and that| maef—fmbaef thought this through. and that. maef—fmbaef on must have a damaging impact on obfbfren— must have a damaging impact on enffaren. baf— must have a damaging impact on children. but look,— must have a damaging impact on children. but look, i'm going to nave— children. but look, i'm going to nave-vne— children. but look, i'm going to nave-bfne-ffl have to draw a line under it mere.— have to draw a line under it fnere. r— have to draw a line under it fnere. r oan— have to draw a line under it there. i can i— have to draw a line under it there. i can i can- have to draw a line under it there. i can i can absolutely born— there. i can i can absolutely see both sides— there. i can i can absolutely see both sides of- there. i can i can absolutely see both sides of this, which is why— see both sides of this, which is any ff-e— see both sides of this, which is any ff-e-a— see both sides of this, which is nny ff-e-a gooe- see both sides of this, which is why it's a good talking why it's such a good talking bomb— why it's such a good talking bomb-yoa— why it's such a good talking bofnf.-yoa-veryi point. thank you very, very maen. — point. thank you very, very maen. -fo— point. thank you very, very maen. -fo-yoal point. thank you very, very. much. -to-you both point. thank you very, very- much.-to-you both on much. great to have you both on the much. great to have you both on fne-afb— much. great to have you both on fne-aff nonf— much. great to have you both on the-all right. that- much. great to have you both on the all right. that was the show. all right. that was enfef— the show. all right. that was chief—christian. chief executive of christian concern, williams. and concern, andrea williams. and more— concern, andrea williams. and divorce lawyer— concern, andrea williams. and divorce lawyer vanessa lloyd fraff. — divorce lawyer vanessa lloyd bran—mave- divorce lawyer vanessa lloyd pratt. _ make of i divorce lawyer vanessa lloyd - pratt. _make of that? pratt. what do you make of that? do pratt. what do you make of that? bo—ff— pratt. what do you make of that? bo—ff wa- pratt. what do you make of that? bo—ff a- pratt. what do you make of that? bo—ff a bffi do you think maybe it was a bit too do you think maybe it was a bit foo bram— do you think maybe it was a bit too blunt comment, which is a too blunt a comment, which is a bit too blunt a comment, which is a bff-eomfng— too blunt a comment, which is a bff-eomfng-fo- too blunt a comment, which is a bit-coming _to be. bit rich coming from me, to be fam— bit rich coming from me, to be far, baf— bit rich coming from me, to be fair, but there _ bit rich coming from me, to be fair, but there we— bit rich coming from me, to be fair, but there we go. right now:— fair, but there we go. right now,-now for- fair, but there we go. right- now, _now for patrick's now, it's time now for patrick's mov— now, it's time now for patrick's new of— now, it's time now for patrick's new of me — now, it's time now for patrick's pick of the day.— now, it's time now for patrick's pick of the day-is- now, it's time now for patrick's pick of the day. is my pick of the day. this is my cambe— pick of the day. this is my enaneelr-aef— pick of the day. this is my chance just about chance to just talk about a efory— chance to just talk about a story dominating story that isn't dominating the news—eaagnfl story that isn't dominating the. news—cabana my news agenda but has caught my eye. — news agenda but has caught my eye. .foaay— news agenda but has caught my eye. .foaay fre— news agenda but has caught my eye-foaay we a— news agenda but has caught my eye. today it's a survey eye. and today it's a survey maf— eye. and today it's a survey that highlights— eye. and today it's a survey that highlights the difference befween— that highlights the difference between okay. _ that highlights the difference between okay. it's a report cousins. okay. it's a report maf— cousins. okay. it's a report

fnaf foame— cousins. okay. it's a report that found german cousins. okay. it's a report that found-german sit that found that german men sit down— that found that german men sit aownlnawe— that found that german men sit aownlnawe a— that found that german men sit down-have a wee— that found that german men sit down have a wee lot down to have a wee a lot more fnan— down to have a wee a lot more fnan fnefr— down to have a wee a lot more than their counterparts. than their british counterparts. a voaeow— than their british counterparts. a voaeow bobb— than their british counterparts. a yougov poll has found that a wnobbfng— a yougov poll has found that a wnobbfng obve— a yougov poll has found that a wnobbfng bore of— a yougov poll has found that a whopping 62% of german men sit to whopping 62% of german men sit fo—ewery- whopping 62% of german men sit fo—ewery ffmel whopping 62% of german men sitj fo—ewery ffme or whopping 62% of german men sitj to.of_every time or whopping 62% of german men sit to of the every time or whopping 62% of german men sit to of the time. every time or whopping 62% of german men sit to of the time. britishy time or whopping 62% of german men sit to of the time. british mene or most of the time. british men are-more likely— most of the time. british men are-more likely to- most of the time. british men are more likely to stand up. are far more likely to stand up. abbarenffy— are far more likely to stand up. apparentlvlmere_ are far more likely to stand up. apparently mere 23% of them apparently a mere 23% of them fema— apparently a mere 23% of them fena fo— apparently a mere 23% of them fena fo eff— apparently a mere 23% of them tend to sit down.— apparently a mere 23% of them tend to sit down. so there we 90-— tend to sit down. so there we go. abbarenfby,— tend to sit down. so there we go. apparently, americans beat us go. apparently, americans beat aelweff. — go. apparently, americans beat us.well. there— go. apparently, americans beat us well. there you go . 24% of us as well. there you go. 24% of bare— us as well. there you go. 24% of one away— us as well. there you go. 24% of brits actually, it— us as well. there you go. 24% of brits actually, it clearly says mere— brits actually, it clearly says fnere on— brits actually, it clearly says there on the— brits actually, it clearly says there on the actual graphic, but maf— there on the actual graphic, but that-americans- there on the actual graphic, but that americans well that 23% of americans as well sit that 23% of americans as well of down. — that 23% of americans as well of down. r— that 23% of americans as well sit down. i mean,— that 23% of americans as well sit down. i mean, make of that wnaf— sit down. i mean, make of that we yoa— sit down. i mean, make of that we yon wfbb— sit down. i mean, make of that what you will, ladies and genfbemen— what you will, ladies and gentlemen, make of that what you wfff. — gentlemen, make of that what you wfff. -we— gentlemen, make of that what you wffb-we go.— gentlemen, make of that what you wffb-we go. wow- will. but there we go. now as many— will. but there we go. now as many-yoa— will. but there we go. now as manylyoa-nexf- will. but there we go. now as many you next month many of you know, next month i wru— many of you know, next month i wfbf be— many of you know, next month i will be dancing— many of you know, next month i will be dancing on— many of you know, next month i will be dancing on stage with the will be dancing on stage with fne-boye— will be dancing on stage with fne-boye wno- will be dancing on stage with the boys who call the dream boys who call themselves— the dream boys who call themselves most the dream boys who call- themselves-most famous the dream boys who call- themzstrippers. -most famous the dream boys who call themzstrippers. wentiost famous the dream boys who call themzstrippers. went .yst famous the dream boys who call themzstrippers. went . it famous the dream boys who call themzstrippers. went . i wasious male strippers. i went. i was meanf— male strippers. i went. i was meanf fo— male strippers. i went. i was meanf fo ao— male strippers. i went. i was meant to do it— male strippers. i went. i was meant to do it last year, away.— meant to do it last year, actually. yes,— meant to do it last year, actually. yes, of course i was. baf— actually. yes, of course i was. bar-wanoae— actually. yes, of course i was. but various reasons it but for various reasons it oomom-f— but for various reasons it couldn't quite- but for various reasons it couldn't quite happen. but as many—mow,- couldn't quite happen. but as. many—know, regular many of you will know, regular viewers,-on and- many of you will know, regular viewers,-on and i- many of you will know, regular viewers, on and i am viewers, it is now on and i am borne— viewers, it is now on and i am done fnree— viewers, it is now on and i am doing three dance— viewers, it is now on and i am doing three dance routines on efage— doing three dance routines on beae—babe- doing three dance routines oni stage._lads last stage. i met with the lads last week— stage. i met with the lads last weevlfearn— stage. i met with the lads last week-learn the— stage. i met with the lads last week learn the moves it's week to learn the moves and it's the week to learn the moves and it's fne—bfg- week to learn the moves and it's fne—bfg nfabfl the countdown to the big night in the countdown to the big night fn-fn— the countdown to the big night fn-fn venf. — the countdown to the big night in-in kent-that. in bromley in kent. and that bare— in bromley in kent. and that date wednesday, in bromley in kent. and that. date .wednesday,-of date is wednesday, the 28th of fame. — date is wednesday, the 28th of fame. -fo— date is wednesday, the 28th of rune-fo mave- date is wednesday, the 28th of june-to make it- date is wednesday, the 28th of june. to make it very june. i want to make it very bea— june. i want to make 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this for fun. i am doing it to money— this for fun. i am doing it to raise money-the- this for fun. i am doing it to raise money the mental raise money for the mental neaffn— raise money for the mental health charity— raise money for the mental health charity mind. okay and so far, health charity mind. okay and so f.., we— health charity mind. okay and so f.., we nave— health charity mind. okay and so far, we have raised— health charity mind. okay and so far, we have raised you have named— far, we have raised you have raised almost— far, we have raised you have raised almost 32— far, we have raised you have raised almost 32 grand. yeah. vean— raised almost 32 grand. yeah. vean mere— raised almost 32 grand. yeah. yeah there we— raised almost 32 grand. yeah. yeah there we go. thank you to eeonrye— yeah there we go. thank you to eeoryne wno— yeah there we go. thank you to everyone who has— yeah there we go. thank you to everyone who has donated. and i wanf— everyone who has donated. and i wanf fo— everyone who has donated. and i wanf fo faer— everyone who has donated. and i want to just tell— everyone who has donated. and i want to just tell you, it's just giving.com/fund_ want to just tell you, it's just giving.com/fund raising, forward efaen— giving.com/fund raising, forward slash challenge— giving.com/fund raising, forward slash challenge christie's and m — slash challenge christie's and rm going— slash challenge christie's and rm going fo— slash challenge christie's and rm going ro baf— slash challenge christie's and i'm going to put a target on it. now:— i'm going to put a target on it. wow, faafee— i'm going to put a target on it. now, ladies and— i'm going to put a target on it. now, ladies and gents, can we get now, ladies and gents, can we gef fo— now, ladies and gents, can we gef fo bo— now, ladies and gents, can we get to 50 grand?— now, ladies and gents, can we get to 50 grand? okay can we get to get to 50 grand? okay can we get fo bo— get to 50 grand? okay can we get fo so grandf— get to 50 grand? okay can we get ro so granaf we— get to 50 grand? okay can we get to 50 grand? we are— get to 50 grand? okay can we get to 50 grand? we are just £150 wffn— to 50 grand? we are just £150 wffn ebo— to 50 grand? we are just £150 wffn nso away— to 50 grand? we are just £150 with £50 away from 32 k right faer— nor-wef— giving.com/fundraising, forward ebaen— giving.com/fundraising, forward slash challenge— giving.com/fundraising, forward slash challenge christie's luck. baafee— slash challenge christie's luck. baafee ana— slash challenge christie's luck. ladies and gents,— slash challenge christie's luck. ladies and gents, i'm going to baefeafby— ladies and gents, i'm going to basically humiliate myself on efage— basically humiliate myself on efagelfne— basically humiliate myself on efagelfne-of- basically humiliate myself on stage the of charity. so stage in the name of charity. so if stage in the name of charity. so ff yoa— stage in the name of charity. so ff yon oan— stage in the name of charity. so ff yon abb— stage in the name of charity. so if you can dip into— stage in the name of charity. so if you can dip into your pockets a bore— if you can dip into your pockets a fffffe bf,— if you can dip into your pockets a fffffe no r— if you can dip into your pockets a little bit, i would appreciate if you can dip into your pockets a lnow,)it, i would appreciate if you can dip into your pockets a lnow, next would appreciate if you can dip into your pockets a lnow, next hour,i appreciate if you can dip into your pockets a lnow, next hour, next reciate if you can dip into your pockets a lnow, next hour, next hour,a if you can dip into your pockets a lnow, next hour, next hour, i it. now, next hour, next hour, i nave— it. now, next hour, next hour, i have _secretary - it. now, next hour, next hour, i have secretary suella have got home secretary suella braverman saying— have got home secretary suella braverman saying that she calls the unexamined _ braverman saying that she calls the unexamined drive towards multiculturalism _ the unexamined drive towards multiculturalism is a recipe for communal disaster. and i'm aevfng— communal disaster. and i'm aevfng foaay— communal disaster. and i'm aevfng foaay ,— communal disaster. and i'm asking today , is— asking today, is multiculturalism dumas aevfng foaay, fe— multiculturalism dumas aimed to fame— multiculturalism dumas aimed to fafbf ana— multiculturalism dumas aimed to fail? and what— multiculturalism dumas aimed to fail? and what about white working— fail? and what about white working class— fail? and what about white working class boys? i'm patrick cnnefye— working class boys? i'm patrick cnnefye on— working class boys? i'm patrick cnnerye on on— working class boys? i'm patrick christys on gb news britain's

channel well, i channell well, very i channel- well, very good lemma— well, very good afternoon, everybody. — well, very good afternoon, everybody. it's— well, very good afternoon, everybody. it'sjust well, very good afternoon, everybody. it's just gone 4 pm. voe— everybody. it's just gone 4 pm. vore wffn— everybody. it's just gone 4 pm. you're with me.— everybody. it's just gone 4 pm. you're with me. patrick christys nonf— you're with me. patrick christys ngnf bere— you're with me. patrick christys ngnf nere on— you're with me. patrick christys right here on gb— you're with me. patrick christys right here on gb news and it's a big right here on gb news and it's a his bow.— right here on gb news and it's a his bow. berea— right here on gb news and it's a big hour. here's what's on the agenda.— big hour. here's what's on the agenda. suella— big hour. here's what's on the agenda. suella braverman comments about multicultural ism in-we're currently- in the way we're currently nanabng— in the way we're currently nanabng ff.— in the way we're currently handling it. doomed failure . handling it. doomed to failure. do handling it. doomed to failure. bo yoa— handling it. doomed to failure. bo yon fnfnv— handling it. doomed to failure. do you think it— handling it. doomed to failure. do you think it is— handling it. doomed to failure. do you think it is doomed to faffaref— do you think it is doomed to failure? has— do you think it is doomed to failure? has it— do you think it is doomed to failure? has it already been a areaefer— failure? has it already been a areaefer or— failure? has it already been a disaster or do— failure? has it already been a disaster or do you see it as a goof— disaster or do you see it as a goof ennenfng— disaster or do you see it as a good enriching thing for the eoanfryf— good enriching thing for the country?.other- good enriching thing for the country? other news, prince country? in other news, prince nary,— country? in other news, prince nary—nefanfl harry, is this just the height of—ovay.- harry, is this just the height of—ovay. ne- harry, is this just the height. of_okay. he leaves of arrogance? okay. he leaves bnfafn— of arrogance? okay. he leaves bnfafn-ae- of arrogance? okay. he leaves britain,-us on- of arrogance? okay. he leaves britain,-us on the. of arrogance? okay. he leaves britain, us on the way britain, he slams us on the way out britain, he slams us on the way oar—expens- britain, he slams us on the way oar—expeefe fo - britain, he slams us on the way out—expects to bei out and then he expects to be abbe— out and then he expects to be abfeleome— out and then he expects to be able-come back— out and then he expects to be able come back to this able to come back to this eoanfry— able to come back to this eoanrry ana— able to come back to this country and pay police country and pay our police fore— country and pay our police fore wno— country and pay our police force, who was— country and pay our police force, who was supposed to be efobbfng— force, who was supposed to be stopping stabbings, investigating stopping stabbings, invcetera. ng protect him, et cetera. to protect him, neaffyf— et cetera. to protect him, really?-talkingl et cetera. to protect him,- really?-talking about really? we'll be talking about all really? we'll be talking about afflfnaf. — really? we'll be talking about all-that. .back- really? we'll be talking about all that. back court all of that. he's back in court over-ana— all of that. he's back in court over-ana yee— all of that. he's back in court over-ana yee ,— all of that. he's back in court over-and yes , in- all of that. he's back in court over and yes , in other over that. and yes, in other news as well,— over that. and yes, in other news as well, massive tory tax mne.— news as well, massive tory tax hike--9rief-_ news as well, massive tory tax hike-grief. what- news as well, massive tory tax hike. grief. what is going hike. good grief. what is going one— hike. good grief. what is going one r— hike. good grief. what is going onfr m— hike. good grief. what is going onfr fn 5— hike. good grief. what is going on?1 in 5 people— hike. good grief. what is going on? 1 in 5 people are going to

be m— on? 1 in 5 people are going to be n we— on? 1 in 5 people are going to be in the higher— on? 1 in 5 people are going to be in the higher tax bracket. do you— be in the higher tax bracket. do you feeb— be in the higher tax bracket. do you feef nonf— be in the higher tax bracket. do you feel rich? probably not. webb— you feel rich? probably not. wefb wny— you feel rich? probably not. web, wny on— you feel rich? probably not. well, why on earth should you be paying— well, why on earth should you be bayfng-nfgner— well, why on earth should you be paying-higher rate_ well, why on earth should you be paying higher rate tax ? paying the higher rate of tax? it paying the higher rate of tax? rflmaaneee. — paying the higher rate of tax? itlmadness. i— paying the higher rate of tax? it madness. ithink paying the higher rate of tax? it madness. i think it's a it is madness. i think it's a bff—ff-e- bit cheeky. i think it's borderline _ bit cheeky. i think it's borderline daylight robbery . and bit cheeky. i think it's b0ithat ne daylight robbery . and bit cheeky. i think it's b0ithat ne de'as ght robbery . and bit cheeky. i think it's b0ithat ne de'as well,ybbery . and bit cheeky. i think it's b0ithat ne de'as well, amid . and bit cheeky. i think it's b0ithat ne de'as well, amid the nd on that note as well, amid the to on that note as well, amid the fo fory— on that note as well, amid the o rory fnnge— on that note as well, amid the to tory fringe events that have raven— to tory fringe events that have raven-me— to tory fringe events that have taken _the last- to tory fringe events that have taken the last week, taken place in the last week, mere— taken place in the last week, fnere are— taken place in the last week, there are serious— taken place in the last week, there are serious talks now aboar— there are serious talks now about whether— there are serious talks now about whether or not rishi sunak has about whether or not rishi sunak nae gor— about whether or not rishi sunak nae gof ff— about whether or not rishi sunak nae gof ff m— about whether or not rishi sunak has got it in his— about whether or not rishi sunak has got it in his locker to aefaaffy— has got it in his locker to actually win— has got it in his locker to actually win the next general efeeffon. — actually win the next general election. braverman election. suella braverman aeffnffefy— election. suella braverman definitely-in- election. suella braverman definitely in the rings definitely waiting in the rings ana— definitely waiting in the rings and ae— definitely waiting in the rings and as web— definitely waiting in the rings and as well patel, of and as well priti patel, of course,-this. and as well priti patel, ofi course,-this guy, course, she backs this guy, aoeen-f— course, she backs this guy, doesn't what course, she backs this guy, do

over now to the headlines with polly_. patrick. . polly middlehurst. patrick. fnanv— polly middlehurst. patrick. rnanvyoa. — polly middlehurst. patrick. thank you. the- polly middlehurst. patrick. thank you. the top stories this afternoon, three men who suppued afternoon, three men who supplied fake passports to criminals have been jailed. anthony beard , christopher btec anthony beard, christopher btec and anthony beard, christopher btec ana aban— anthony beard, christopher btec and alan thompson helped murderers and— and alan thompson helped murderers and drug dealers evade meme.— murderers and drug dealers evade faeffee. beara— murderers and drug dealers evade justice. beard, who— murderers and drug dealers evade justice. beard, who paid vulnerable— justice. beard, who paid vulnerable people for their expired— vulnerable people for their expired documents , was sentenced expired documents, was sentenced to expired documents, was sentenced fo eb— expired documents, was sentenced fo on years— expired documents, was sentenced fo on years ana— expired documents, was sentenced to six years and eight months in jail-— to six years and eight months in raff- wre— to six years and eight months in jail. his accomplices, zetec and fnombeon— jail. his accomplices, zetec and rnombeon wru— jail. his accomplices, zetec and thompson, will serve a combined ferm — thompson, will serve a combined ferm of— thompson, will serve a combined ferm of fr— thompson, will serve a combined term of 11 years. _ thompson, will serve a combined term of 11 years. the— thompson, will serve a combined term of 11 years. \r term of 11 years. the national crime agency's deputy director, craig turner, says the falsified passports served as a golden ticket for organised crime networks. these ticket for organised crime networks . these organisations networks. these organisations fnwowea— networks. these organisations were involved in— these organisations were involved in drug trafficking, - were involved in drug trafficking, kidnap and money faanaenng— trafficking, kidnap and money laundering on— trafficking, kidnap and money laundering on an international seabe— laundering on an international eeafe . — laundering on an international eeafe . a— laundering on an international eeafe . a fee— laundering on an international scale. ' r:::r2 laundering on an international scale. ' 2:2 2 scale. a fog passport allowed those organised criminal networks in order to travel abroad, in order to carry out their business, but also allowed them to obviously evade captive by obviously law enforcement that actually sought to arrest

them . essex police is them. essex police is investigating- essex police is investigating an allegation of serious sexual— investigating an allegation of serious sexual assault that's been— serious sexual assault that's been made— serious sexual assault that's been made against the solihull mp been made against the solihull arb rowan— been made against the solihull mp julian knight. 2 mp julian knight. it follows a referral— mp julian knight. it follows a referral by scotland yard and comes after the metropolitan police dropped its investigation into a claim more than a month ago . mr knight, who was stripped ago. mr knight, who was stripped of the conservative whip, has denied what he described as false and malicious accusations. he doesn't plan to run at the near— he doesn't plan to run at the next election— he doesn't plan to run at the next election in— he doesn't plan to run at the next election in two members of an organfeea— next election in two members of an organised crime— next election in two members of an organised crime group who emaggfea— an organised crime group who emaggfea ar— an organised crime group who smuggled 41 migrants into the uk nave— smuggled 41 migrants into the uk nave been— smuggled 41 migrants into the uk have been jailed.— smuggled 41 migrants into the uk have been jailed. mohammed awad was have been jailed. mohammed awad eenfeneea— have been jailed. mohammed awad was sentenced today to over two ana— was sentenced today to over two and a— was sentenced today to over two and a baff— was sentenced today to over two and a half years— was sentenced today to over two and a half years at— was sentenced today to over two and a half years at a belfast eoan. — and a half years at a belfast eoan. ab— and a half years at a belfast court. his partner,- and a half years at a belfast court. and a half years at a belfast- court. his partner, ahmad omar, was jailed for two years back in march. an investigation by the nome— march. an investigation by the home offbe— march. an investigation by the home office found— my? 22.“ an investigation by the home office found both men enaraea— home office found both men charged migrants £5,000 per journev- — charged migrants £5,000 per journey- bobb— charged migrants £5,000 per journey. 22 journey. both pleaded guilty to assisting unlawful immigration . assisting unlawful immigration. and the prime minister will tell wowe— and the prime minister will tell world leaders— and the prime minister will tell world leaders the _ and the prime minister will tell world leaders the international eyefem —

world leaders the international eyefem for— world leaders the international system for policing human frafffevfng— system for policing human trafficking isn't working. rishi sanav— trafficking isn't working. rishi sanav fe— trafficking isn't working. rishi sanav be m— trafficking isn't working. rishi sunak is in iceland, where he'll aboreee— sunak is in iceland, where he'll address be— sunak is in iceland, where he'll address the council of europe ana— address the council of europe and bay— address the council of europe and say we— address the council of europe and say the world's most vulnerable— and say the world's most vulnerable people are paying the bree— vulnerable people are paying the once for— vulnerable people are paying the price for unlawful— vulnerable people are paying the price for unlawful migration. mar-e— price for unlawful migration. fnaf-e ae— price for unlawful migration. that's as the _ price for unlawful migration. that's as the government tries to that's as the government tries ro fmbfemenf— that's as the government tries to implement the— that's as the government tries to implement the illegal mfgraffon— to implement the illegal migration bill, which is earrenffy— migration bill, which is currently going through the worse— currently going through the home of— currently going through the house of lords.— currently going through the house of lords. the new law aims to house of lords. the new law aims fo faevbe— house of lords. the new law aims to tackle small— house of lords. the new law aims to tackle small boat— house of lords. the new law aims to tackle small boat crossings, ename— to tackle small boat crossings, sending asylum _ to tackle small boat crossings, sending asylum seekers back home or fo— sending asylum seekers back home or fo a— sending asylum seekers back home or fo a fnfra— sending asylum seekers back home or to a third country.— sending asylum seekers back home or to a third country. such as rwanda— or to a third country. such as awanrfa .— or to a third country. such as awanrfa . me— or to a third country. such as rwanda . the environment rwanda. the environment seerefary— rwanda. the environment secretary has— rwanda. the environment secretary has stressed the fmbonanee— secretary has stressed the importance of— secretary has stressed the importance of an affordable, sustainable— importance of an affordable, sustainable and— importance of an affordable, sustainable and resilient food supply— sustainable and resilient food supply enam— sustainable and resilient food supply enafn af— sustainable and resilient food supply chain at the farm to fork sammff— supply chain at the farm to fork sammff m— supply chain at the farm to fork summit in downing street. the bowernmenf— summit in downing street. the government is— summit in downing street. the government is promising a fairer bnee— government is promising a fairer once for— government is promising a fairer once for fame— government is promising a fairer price for farmers produce and nae— price for farmers produce and nae pledged— price for farmers produce and nae breagea fo— price for farmers produce and has pledged to get more of their produce— has pledged to get more of their probaefe on— has pledged to get more of their products on supermarket shelves. the products on supermarket shelves. fne fafeef— products on supermarket shelves. the latest figures— products on supermarket shelves. the latest figures show meat, yognan— the latest figures show meat, yognan ana— the latest figures show meat, yoghurt and vegetables are just of— yoghurt and vegetables are just of me— yoghurt and vegetables are just some of the items— yoghurt and vegetables are just some of the items that have ooabfea— some of the items that have boabfea m— some of the items that have doubled in price— some of the items that have doubled in price compared to a year— doubled in price compared to a year ago,— doubled in price compared to a year ago, amba— doubled in price compared to a year ago, amid high inflation. fnereee— year ago, amid high inflation. therese coffey— year ago, amid high inflation. therese coffey says the package of measures will— therese coffey says the package of measures will boost the food supply— of measures will boost the food supply enam— of measures will boost the food supply enafn ana— of measures will boost the food supply chain and grow the eoomy—

supply chain and grow the economy. i'm- supply chain and grow the economy . supply chain and grow the- economy . i'm conscious that our economy. i'm conscious that our supermarket is get involved in a variety of ways on how they help consumers . i'll leave that to consumers. i'll leave that to the select committee, but what is critical is coming here today, getting the food supply chain from the farm, indeed, the sea right through to the fork and about how we can continue to work together to that work together to have that security of food production. but also sure we have also making sure we have a resilient one and an affordable food production as well . the food production as well. the head of the royal college of nursing is urging union members to vote in favour of further walkouts to strengthen her hand in negotiations with the government. addressing the annaf— government. addressing the annual conference,- 2 addressing the annual conference, pat cullen eaye— annual conference, pat cullen eaye fne — annual conference, pat cullen says the government will be forced— says the government will be forced fo — says the government will be forced to improve their offer if the forced to improve their offer if fne amon— forced to improve their offer if the union has— forced to improve their offer if the union has another six month enve— the union has another six month strike mandate— the union has another six month strike mandate .— the union has another six month strike mandate . a— the union has another six month strike mandate . a postal ballot strike mandate. a postal ballot on new industrial— strike mandate. a postal ballot on new industrial action will open— on new industrial action will open near— on new industrial action will open next week— on new industrial action will open next week after the rcn famed— open next week after the rcn famea down— open next week after the rcn turned down a— open next week after the rcn turned down a 5% pay rise this year— turned down a 5% pay rise this year ana— turned down a 5% pay rise this year and a— turned down a 5% pay rise this year and a one— turned down a 5% pay rise this year and a one off— turned down a 5% pay rise this year and a one off payment for faer— year and a one off payment for faef year. — year and a one off payment for faer year. sne— year and a one off payment for last year. she also— year and a one off payment for last year. she also demanded the enme— last year. she also demanded the prime minister— last year. she also demanded the prime minister comes to the negoffaffng— prime minister comes to the negotiating table. absolutely nobody— negotiating table. absolutely noborfywanfe— negotiating table. absolutely nobody wants to see twice as

many— nobody wants to see twice as many nurses take— nobody wants to see twice as many nurses take strike action or fwfee— many nurses take strike action or fwfee ae— many nurses take strike action or fwfee as many— many nurses take strike action or twice as many hospitals affeefea— or twice as many hospitals affeefea by— or twice as many hospitals affected by a— or twice as many hospitals affected by a strike. 37�*2 affected by a strike. prime armbfer— affected by a strike. prime armbfer .— affected by a strike. prime minister , you did the right minister, you did the right thing to open negotiations with me in february before the 75th birthday of the nhs . this july. birthday of the nhs. this july. let us get the job finished . let let us get the job finished. let . now jobless figures have unexpect risen again. unemployed rose to 3.9% unexpect risen again. - unemployed rose to 3.9% in the fre— unemployed rose to 3.9% in the ffref fnree— unemployed rose to 3.9% in the first three months— unemployed rose to 3.9% in the first three months of the year, up from — first three months of the year, up from beve— first three months of the year, up from 3.8% in— first three months of the year, up from 3.8% in the previous aaaner— up from 3.8% in the previous aaaner .— up from 3.8% in the previous onaner . fne— up from 3.8% in the previous quarter . the data from the quarter. the data from the offbe— quarter. the data from the offfee for— quarter. the data from the office for national statistics afoo— office for national statistics also showed _ office for national statistics also showed vacancies had fallen to also showed vacancies had fallen fo me— also showed vacancies had fallen fo fne foweef— also showed vacancies had fallen to the lowest level— also showed vacancies had fallen to the lowest level for 18 momm,— to the lowest level for 18 months, with _ to the lowest level for 18 months, with the number of beobfe— months, with the number of people m— months, with the number of people in work— months, with the number of people in work slightly higher . people in work slightly higher. snaaow— people in work slightly higher. shadow work— people in work slightly higher. shadow work and pensions beerefary— shadow work and pensions secretary jonathan ashworth says the government— secretary jonathan ashworth says the government needs to invest in the government needs to invest fn mamma— the government needs to invest fn frafnfng ana— the government needs to invest in training and reskilling. i wowe— in training and reskilling. i woaba argue— in training and reskilling. i would argue that we need action fo— would argue that we need action fo bebo— would argue that we need action now to help people who are nabbed— now to help people who are mapped on— now to help people who are

trapped on benefit s to move me— trapped on benefit s to move no work— trapped on benefit s to move no work . — trapped on benefit s to move into work . it's— trapped on benefit s to move into work. 2 trapped on benefit s to move into work . 2 into work. it's why we've offered an interwork guarantee arnie reform to the to a particular aspect of the benefit system . but we've also got to system. but we've also got to offer people proper training and help and reskilling to move into good well—paid jobs because a job should be able to provide for yourself, for your family, for yourself, for your family, for yourself, for your family, for you to build a home life and too many jobs in the country are low at moment , too many jobs in the country are low at moment, and low paid at the moment, and greggs bakery have revealed its sales have surged by nearly a fifth over the last year . the fifth over the last year. the bakery chain says its- �*" the bakery chain says its food is affraefwe— bakery chain says its food is attractive to _ bakery chain says its food is attractive to customers looking for a— attractive to customers looking for a member— attractive to customers looking for a cheaper alternative amid the for a cheaper alternative amid fne neme— for a cheaper alternative amid the rising cost— for a cheaper alternative amid the rising cost of— for a cheaper alternative amid the rising cost of living. sales grew— the rising cost of living. sales grew by— the rising cost of living. sales grew by .,%_ the rising cost of living. sales grew by 17% over— the rising cost of living. sales grew by 17% over the last 12 monfbe— grew by 17% over the last 12 monfne, ana— grew by 17% over the last 12 months, and it— grew by 17% over the last 12 months, and it says they're tapping— months, and it says they're fabbfng mao— months, and it says they're tapping into a— months, and it says they're tapping into a new evening sales marker— tapping into a new evening sales marvef wffn— tapping into a new evening sales marvef mm a— tapping into a new evening sales market with a wider variety of hot market with a wider variety of nor fooba— market with a wider variety of nor foobe ae— market with a wider variety of hot foods, as well— market with a wider variety of hot foods, as well as newer vegan— hot foods, as well as newer vegan products— hot foods, as well as newer vegan products .- hot foods, as well as newer vegan products . you're with jb vegan products. you're with jb vewe. — vegan products. you're with jb news. more— vegan products. you're with jb news. more news— vegan products. you're with jb news. more news as it happens. vow— news. more news as it happens. now back— news. more news as it happens. now back fo— news. more news as it happens. now back fo .—

now back to. patrick iwefoome- now back to. patrick i welcome back. - now back to. patrick. . welcome back. like now back to. patrick welcome back. like i said, at the start the hour, i'm the start of the last hour, i'm doing things bit doing things a little bit differently at top of the differently at the top of the houn differently at the top of the hour. going set my hour. now, i'm going to set my stall out on a big talking point for us that get stuck into for us that we'll get stuck into throughout this for us that we'll get stuck into througso jt this for us that we'll get stuck into througso unmanaged, this for us that we'll get stuck into througso unmanaged, rampant show. so unmanaged, rampant multiculturalism end in multiculturalism will end in tears. sevilla tears. that is what sevilla braverman and braverman is saying. and i suspect that a growing number of ordinary are thinking it. ordinary people are thinking it. and not just y people, by and it's not just y people, by the i regularly speak to the way. i regularly speak to people ethnic minority people from ethnic minority backgrounds. show who think often on this show who think it's madness what's it's absolutely madness what's going on in this country at the moment. suella said. the british identity isn't simply interchangeable with liberal values. britishness is so much more than that, some of it unquantified , viable, but all of unquantified, viable, but all of it to be celebrated and cherished. unexamined drive cherished. the unexamined drive towards multiculturalism as an end in itself combined with identity politics, is a recipe for communal disaster. i'm just going to throw a few british cultural values out here now. language for a start. christian

values loosely speaking, a rule of law and respect for the law, a fighting spirit and not some kind of weak willed, self—pitying mentality. and the idea that if you work hard and play by idea that if you work hard and play by rules , you can get play by the rules, you can get on life, but it's also, of on in life, but it's also, of course, about our history, isn't it brits should be walking it? and brits should be walking around ten tall around feeling ten feet tall that this little rock in that this little tiny rock in the ocean essentially ruled the ocean once essentially ruled the ocean once essentially ruled the world, not apologising for that. every adversity thrown at us we have overcome. and that is down to the skill, ingenuity and grit of the british people. so why are we so determined now to do away with all of that? and the simple idea of a multicultural utopia is great. but in practise you can very easily end up with societies within societies less cohesion and more division . because it's and more division. because it's unmanaged, it's spiralling out of control and when people leave their front doors , it feels like their front doors, it feels like they're being asked to tolerate a huge amount of societal change and they're not seeing a net benefit fit to their own lives as the trade off for it . and

as the trade off for it. and these changes will be irreversible. there is a lot wrong with the conservative party at the moment, a lot wrong with it. everybody can see it. they have done a lot wrong in terms but at terms of mass migration, but at least is a home secretary least there is a home secretary who is willing to go record who is willing to go on record and this kind of stuff. and and say this kind of stuff. and i starting to wonder whether i am starting to wonder whether or not suella braverman should be handed the keys to . number be handed the keys to. number 10. well, let me know what you think about all of that. gb views at gb views .uk. i'm joined now by political figure and philanthropist farage london and philanthropist farage london and societal researcher dr. sam barres, who are both going to talk to me a little bit about this. there's a lot to talk about, actually. farage i will start with if that's all start with you if that's all right. what do you make of zoella's comments about this kind of headlong approach to multiculturalism at all costs? nice on paper , but in practise, nice on paper, but in practise, if you haven't got the infrastructure for possibly a problem , i have to say i

problem, i have to say i understand where it's coming from. i think us as a society, we— from. i think us as a society, we nave— from. i think us as a society, we have fixated— from. i think us as a society, we have fixated too- i think us as a society, we have fixated too much on the reef— we have fixated too much on the reef ana— we have fixated too much on the reef and we— we have fixated too much on the past and we need— we have fixated too much on the past and we need to move forward . vow— past and we need to move forward . vow mow.— past and we need to move forward . vow anew. ff— past and we need to move forward . you know, if we— past and we need to move forward . you know, if we do— past and we need to move forward . you know, if we do talk- past and we need to move forward . you know, if we do talk about the issue, the elephant room slavery, that was a very long time ago. hundreds of years ago , and i don't think it's acceptable. people are being benabeea— acceptable. people are being penalised today— acceptable. people are being penalised today for- 22 people are being penalised today for actions of ancestors. hundreds of years ago. — ancestors. hundreds of years ago. wny— ancestors. hundreds of years ago. we non-f— ancestors. hundreds of years ago. why don't we- ancestors. hundreds of years ago. "2 2r:::r“ 2 ancestors. hundreds of years ago. 22“ 2 ago. why don't we look at the figures right now of modern slavery? it's over 50. it'sjust under 50 million. and that's something that we should be talking about. why are we not addressing modern today addressing modern slavery today ? so feel it's good have ? so i do feel it's good to have fneee— ? so i do feel it's good to have these discussions. _ 7’ so i do feel it's good to have these discussions. 2222 7’ so i do feel it's good to have these discussions. 222 these discussions. i'm glad she actually she said, actually said what she said, because it's led to a wider discussion, which we do need to have. dr. discussion, which we do need to have . dr. sam, can i bring you have. dr. sam, can i bring you in have. dr. sam, can i bring you n no— have. dr. sam, can i bring you n on me— have. dr. sam, can i bring you in now on the idea— dr. sam, can i bring you in now on the idea of people maybe— in now on the idea of people maybe wno— in now on the idea of people maybe who are— in now on the idea of people maybe who are a— in now on the idea of people maybe who are a bit left behind in maybe who are a bit left behind fn av— maybe who are a bit left behind fn ab of— maybe who are a bit left behind in all of this?— maybe who are a bit left behind in all of this? and— maybe who are a bit left behind in all of this? and i wanted to fan— in all of this? and i wanted to fan a— in all of this? and i wanted to talk a little— in all of this? and i wanted to talk a little bit— in all of this? and i wanted to talk a little bit about the kind of wnffe— talk a little bit about the kind of white working— talk a little bit about the kind of white working class boys fnfng— of white working class boys fnfng beobfe— of white working class boys thing people get sneered at when fney— thing people get sneered at when fney-aboaf— thing people get sneered at when they-about this. _ thing people get sneered at when they about this. but they talk about this. but aefaaffy:— they talk about this. but array-a- they talk about this. but- actually,-a demographic they talk about this. but ac'people a demographic they talk about this. but ac'people who a demographic they talk about this. but ac'people who are demographic they talk about this. but ac'people who are not ographic they talk about this. but

ac'people who are not doingiic of people who are not doing banfeafarfy— of people who are not doing particularly well at the minute . br. — particularly well at the minute . br. sam— particularly well at the minute . br. sam: r— particularly well at the minute . dr. sam, i mean,— particularly well at the minute . dr. sam, i mean, is that accaraef— . dr. sam, i mean, is that accurate? and— . dr. sam, i mean, is that accurate? and why not? accurate? and if so, why not? vean— accurate? and if so, why not? vean — accurate? and if so, why not? vean so— accurate? and if so, why not? vean so ff— accurate? and if so, why not? yeah so it is— accurate? and if so, why not? yeah 2 22.22. :“ :“ yeah so it is accurate in in some ways there are certain aspects or certain points of young white, working class boys lives. for instance, where they eon-f— lives. for instance, where they eon-f berform — lives. for instance, where they don't perform very— 2 for instance, where they don't perform very well on aeage— don't perform very well on average as a group, don't perform very well on average as a group , for average as a group, for nafnce— average as a group, for instance, in— average as a group, for instance, in terms of accessing nfgner— instance, in terms of accessing higher education,— instance, in terms of accessing higher education, going to anwereffy. — higher education, going to university. we— higher education, going to university. we know that they're of— university. we know that they're of me — university. we know that they're one of the lowest— university. we know that they're one of the lowest performing groupe— one of the lowest performing groabe fnere. — one of the lowest performing groups there. so _ one of the lowest performing groups there. so there is beffnffefy— groups there. so there is definitely some justification in focaefng— definitely some justification in focaefng on— definitely some justification in focusing on that— definitely some justification in focusing on that group. when we faw— focusing on that group. when we fafv aboar— focusing on that group. when we talk about issues— focusing on that group. when we talk about issues of educational mance— talk about issues of educational faeffce or— talk about issues of educational justice or social— talk about issues of educational justice or social mobility and wnaf-e— justice or social mobility and were gofng— justice or social mobility and what's going wrong with those fnfnge— what's going wrong with those fnfngc .— what's going wrong with those fnfngc . baf— what's going wrong with those fnfnge . bar ac— what's going wrong with those things. but as with so many of fnece— things. but as with so many of these debates— things. but as with so many of these debates ,— things. but as with so many of these debates , that shouldn't be these debates, that shouldn't be at these debates, that shouldn't be af fne— these debates, that shouldn't be at the exclusion— these debates, that shouldn't be at the exclusion of— these debates, that shouldn't be at the exclusion of other groups wno— at the exclusion of other groups wno abeo — at the exclusion of other groups who also perform— at the exclusion of other groups who also perform almost as badly and who also perform almost as badly analferme— who also perform almost as badly analfermc of— who also perform almost as badly and-terms of other— who also perform almost as badly and terms of other stages of and in terms of other stages of the and in terms of other stages of fne-eycfem.- and in terms of other stages of fne-cyefem. m- and in terms of other stages of the system, in terms the education system, in terms of-ao— the education system, in terms of-ao ff— the education system, in terms of-ao ff m— the education system, in terms of-do it in their- of how they do it in their a—bewefc— of how they do it in their a—levels, access to a—levels, the access to apprenticeships terms of apprenticeships in terms of ecnoof— apprenticeships in terms of school exclusions, other school exclusions, it's other groupe— school exclusions, it's other groups-fare— school exclusions, it's other groups fare worse. so these groups who fare worse. so these fnfngc— groups who fare worse. so these fnfngc are— groups who fare worse. so these things are really— groups who fare worse. so these things are really complex . i things are really complex. i eon-f— things are really complex. i eon-f fnfnv— things are really complex. i don't think think it's fine to don't think i think it's fine to nave— don't think i think it's fine to nave-aboar- don't think i think it's fine to have - about white . have a debate about white worvfng— have a debate about white worvfng-boye- have a debate about white working-boys .- have a debate about white working boys . don't working class boys. i don't fnfnv— working class boys. i don't think-should- working class boys. i don't- think-should.sneered

think people should be sneered at think people should be sneered af for— think people should be sneered af for-fo— think people should be sneered at for-to have- think people should be sneered at for-to have that- at for wanting to have that arccaeefon— at for wanting to have that discussion .— at for wanting to have that discussion . but- at for wanting to have that discussion . but there's kind discussion. but there's kind of a-gaeae— discussion. but there's kind of a-gaeae of— discussion. but there's kind of a queue of disadvantaged a long queue of disadvantaged groupe— a long queue of disadvantaged groups wno— a long queue of disadvantaged groups wno aff— a long queue of disadvantaged groups who all have a justified brace— groups who all have a justified brace m— groups who all have a justified brace fn fnaf— groups who all have a justified place in that in— groups who all have a justified place in that in wider debates to place in that in wider debates fo — place in that in wider debates fo ear.— place in that in wider debates to me. yeah, indeed.- place in that in wider debates to me. “222“ 22 ' “2 2 to me. yeah, indeed. and farage kind of on this, but moving it on slightly, we do you have any sympathy for people who maybe feel as though this push for tolerance and inclusivity motty, which is in itself obviously a very good thing, right, is actually maybe at the detriment of people who are living here who don't necessarily want to see their areas change in reversibly and maybe called racist or marginalised for doing that and silenced from talking, talking about that kind of stuff. and i think maybe that is an element that suella braverman is into about this is tapping into here about this idea paced idea that a fast paced multiculturalism is having a negative impact on the psychology of people who are here now . i think personally, here now. i think personally, you know, i do a lot of mentoring. i work with lots of commanfffec— mentoring. i work with lots of communities across- “2 i work with lots of communities across london. i work— communities across london. i work wffn—

communities across london. i work mm bore— communities across london. i work with lots of— communities across london. i work with lots of white communities,- work with lots of white communities, but also no ethnic mfnonfy— communities, but also no ethnic minority communities. communities, but also no ethnic minority communities . and yes, minority communities. and yes, oo— minority communities. and yes, some do welcome— minority communities. and yes, some do welcome it and some do. vow— some do welcome it and some do. vow mow— some do welcome it and some do. vow mow .— some do welcome it and some do. vow mow . fave— some do welcome it and some do. you know , take it— some do welcome it and some do. you know , take it as— some do welcome it and some do. you know , take it as an attack you know, take it as an attack ana— you know, take it as an attack and r— you know, take it as an attack and r fnfnv— you know, take it as an attack and i think that's— you know, take it as an attack and i think that's a problem in cocfefy— and i think that's a problem in cocfefy wnen — and i think that's a problem in society when we— and i think that's a problem in society when we are not moving afong— society when we are not moving abong m— society when we are not moving along fn cocfefy— society when we are not moving along in society. we all want to see improvement— along in society. we all want to see improvement and advancement . rf-e— see improvement and advancement . rr-e eebecfabfy— see improvement and advancement . it's especially working with a lot . it's especially working with a or of— . it's especially working with a lot of ethnic— . it's especially working with a lot of ethnic minority children. i lot of ethnic minority children. r bo— lot of ethnic minority children. r do a— lot of ethnic minority children. r do a for— lot of ethnic minority children. r do a or of— lot of ethnic minority children. i do a lot of mentoring and they obwoacfy— i do a lot of mentoring and they obviously feel— i do a lot of mentoring and they obviously feel that— i do a lot of mentoring and they obviously feel that there's lots of opportunities— obviously feel that there's lots of opportunities not open to men — of opportunities not open to men .— of opportunities not open to men . baf— of opportunities not open to men . bar af— of opportunities not open to them . but at the same time, when them. but at the same time, when i them. but at the same time, when r memo— them. but at the same time, when r nenfo wnffe— them. but at the same time, when i mentor white young youth, they feel i mentor white young youth, they feef fne — i mentor white young youth, they feef fne ame— i mentor white young youth, they feel the same because they feel maf— feel the same because they feel that preference— feel the same because they feel that preference is— feel the same because they feel that preference is given to efnnfc— that preference is given to ethnic minority— that preference is given to ethnic minority is now and fney-re— ethnic minority is now and fney-re befng— ethnic minority is now and they're being left aside and, you— they're being left aside and, you mow.— they're being left aside and, you know r-we— they're being left aside and, you know, i've even talked to agave— you know, i've even talked to abaffe wno— you know, i've even talked to adults who are _ you know, i've even talked to adults who are looking for work affer— adults who are looking for work after university— adults who are looking for work after university and they find maf— after university and they find fnaf fney— after university and they find fnaf fney are— after university and they find that they are struggling to get work— that they are struggling to get work because _ that they are struggling to get work because of— that they are struggling to get work because of being white and men— work because of being white and men agafn— work because of being white and then again, you've— work because of being white and then again, you've got the other argamenf— then again, you've got the other argument where,— then again, you've got the other argument where, you know, you've got argument where, you know, you've gof efnnfc— argument where, you know, you've got ethnic minorities who also feeb— got ethnic minorities who also feef fne— got ethnic minorities who also feel the same.— got ethnic minorities who also feel the same. so— got ethnic minorities who also feel the same. so i do feel it is feel the same. so i do feel it be a— feel the same. so i do feel it be a waer— feel the same. so i do feel it is a wider subject. i just ask you— is a wider subject. i just ask you fo— is a wider subject. i just ask you to elaborate— is a wider subject. i just ask you to elaborate on that a bbffbe— you to elaborate on that a bbffbe bbf— you to elaborate on that a little bit fairer— you to elaborate on that a little bit fairer before i go back— little bit fairer before i go back fo— little bit fairer before i go back fo br. — little bit fairer before i go back to dr. salman. little bit fairer before i go- back to dr. salman. so what kind

of things are they saying to you then, when they're look, then, when they're saying, look, i though i'm struggling i feel as though i'm struggling to because white, to get work because i'm white, what's well here you what's that about? well here you go. perfect and i give go. perfect example. and i give exampbe— go. perfect example. and i give exambbe. b— go. perfect example. and i give one example. i was— 22 perfect example. and i give one example. i was speaking to a young— one example. i was speaking to a young wnbfe— one example. i was speaking to a young wnbfe man— one example. i was speaking to a young white man. he's 26. he eaye— young white man. he's 26. he eaye ne— young white man. he's 26. he eaye ne mowe— young white man. he's 26. he says he knows that he gets put aebcfe— says he knows that he gets put aside because _ says he knows that he gets put aside because now whenever you fill aside because now whenever you fbbb obf— aside because now whenever you fbbb oaf an— aside because now whenever you fill out an application form, it aebe— fill out an application form, it aeve yon.— fill out an application form, it aeke you. are— fill out an application form, it asks you, are you— fill out an application form, it asks you, are you from an ethnic mbnorbfy— asks you, are you from an ethnic mbnorbfy af— asks you, are you from an ethnic mbnorbfy af fne— asks you, are you from an ethnic minority at the end? so then if you— minority at the end? so then if you fbcv— minority at the end? so then if you me g,— minority at the end? so then if you fbck g, yoa— minority at the end? so then if you tick it, you know that you mbgnf— you tick it, you know that you mbgnf nor— you tick it, you know that you mbgnf nof be.— you tick it, you know that you might not be, you— you tick it, you know that you might not be, you know, merited on your.— might not be, you know, merited on your. yoa— might not be, you know, merited on your, you know,— might not be, you know, merited on your, you know, your actual cvr_ on your, you know, your actual cv. your— on your, you know, your actual cv, your credibility. but if someone actually ticks that box becee— someone actually ticks that box because a company needs to hire someone who's ethnic, they're going— someone who's ethnic, they're gobng fo— someone who's ethnic, they're gobng ro be— someone who's ethnic, they're gobng ro be baf— someone who's ethnic, they're going to be put forward above the going to be put forward above me reef— going to be put forward above me reef .— going to be put forward above me reef . so— going to be put forward above the rest . so it's— going to be put forward above the rest . so it's even venture the rest. so it's even venture cabbfab— the rest. so it's even venture cabbfab wnen— the rest. so it's even venture capital when you're applying for vefue— capital when you're applying for venture capital. _ capital when you're applying for venture capital. now, at the end of every— venture capital. now, at the end of every application form, they ask of every application form, they aev you— of every application form, they aek you are— of every application form, they aek you. are you— of every application form, they ask you, are you from an ethnic mbnorbfy— ask you, are you from an ethnic mbnorbfy e— ask you, are you from an ethnic mbnorbfy eare— ask you, are you from an ethnic minority ? are you— ask you, are you from an ethnic minority ? are you a female? minority? are you a female? becauee— minority? are you a female? becauee bf-e— minority? are you a female? because it's been unearthed that fney— because it's been unearthed that fney-obvboueby— because it's been unearthed that they-obviously not- because it's been unearthed that they obviously not given they have obviously not given mucn— they have obviously not given mucn money— they have obviously not given much money to— they have obviously not given much money to ethnic minority communbfbee— much money to ethnic minority communities or— much money to ethnic minority communities or um , you know, communities or um, you know, beobbe— communities or um, you know, beobbe boovbng— communities or um, you know, people looking for funding . so people looking for funding. so mere-e— people looking for funding. so fnere-e fnbe— people looking for funding. so there's this whole drive and

everyone's talking about it. i mow— everyone's talking about it. i know beobbe— everyone's talking about it. i know people who are white, who are know people who are white, who bbacv. — know people who are white, who are black, who— know people who are white, who are black, who have noticed that all are black, who have noticed that abb of— are black, who have noticed that abb of a— are black, who have noticed that all of a sudden— are black, who have noticed that all of a sudden most of the abvene— all of a sudden most of the abverfe no— all of a sudden most of the adverts now all— all of a sudden most of the adverts now all the companies are adverts now all the companies frybng— adverts now all the companies frybng fo— adverts now all the companies are trying to-more- adverts now all the companies are trying to more ethnic are trying to put more ethnic beobbe— are trying to put more ethnic beobbe bnfo— are trying to put more ethnic people into the— are trying to put more ethnic people into the adverts, but be— people into the adverts, but it's—overdrivel it's going into an overdrive wnee— it's going into an overdrive bee you— it's going into an overdrive where, you know, it's becoming it's where, you know, it's becoming bf-e ebowbng— where, you know, it's becoming it's showing that— where, you know, it's becoming it's showing that they're doing it's showing that they're doing bflburboee. — it's showing that they're doing bflburboee. eo— it's showing that they're doing it.purpose. so it- it's showing that they're doing it purpose. so it is quite it on purpose. so it is quite a big— it on purpose. so it is quite a big discussion— it on purpose. so it is quite a big discussion that i do have wab— big discussion that i do have wab wnbfe— big discussion that i do have with white people, black people . cbbneee— with white people, black people , chinese even.— with white people, black people , chinese even. and it is a big obecueebon. — , chinese even. and it is a big discussion. it— , chinese even. and it is a big discussion. it is. _ , chinese even. and it is a big discussion. 2 ' 2 , chinese even. and it is a big discussion. 2 “2 222; discussion. it is. and you are right to identify i mean, i have this conversation regularly with people of all different religious backgrounds and cultural backgrounds well. cultural backgrounds as well. and of something and it is kind of something that everybody and i suppose everybody notices and i suppose just in terms of the kyiv side of things that you were saying, there are job applications, there's be had, isn't there's a case to be had, isn't there, completely blind there, for completely blind applications. is applications. of course there is also against also quite a good case against that. dr. sarma, i'll bring that. but dr. sarma, i'll bring you on this. now, you back in on this. now, in terms with your with your cap terms of with your with your cap as social researcher on. okay. as a social researcher on. okay. i multiculturalism at as a social researcher on. okay. i pace multiculturalism at as a social researcher on. okay. i pace thatticulturalism at as a social researcher on. okay. i pace that we'reiralism at as a social researcher on. okay. i pace that we're seeing at this pace that we're seeing at the on paper, fantastic the minute on paper, fantastic idea potentially. and it's

about, i suppose, whether or not integration goes with that as well. and whether or not people feel as though that we are at risk of having societies within societies . and i think that is societies. and i think that is again, something that suella braverman was alluding to. there is there the reality that we are heading towards kind of pockets of society, it's not going to be this big unified, you know, diverse society that maybe people would would for. hope yeah i mean, the there's lots of research evidence , acas research evidence, acas demonstrating the fact that in some parts of cities for instance, that are seen as multicultural actually different groups of people live quite separate lives as even research , you know, attaching gps trackers to taxis, showing that certain cab firms are use by different people from different backgrounds, and they they travel around the city quite separately in that in that way. quite remarkable social trends. gm.— quite remarkable social trends. um. buf— quite remarkable social trends. um. buf b— quite remarkable social trends. um, but i think— quite remarkable social trends. um, but i think sometimes we boob— um, but i think sometimes we boob af— um, but i think sometimes we boob af wnaf— um, but i think sometimes we look at what we— um, but i think sometimes we look at what we observe at face vabue— look at what we observe at face vabue bn— look at what we observe at face value in society— look at what we observe at face value in society motty and we

make— value in society motty and we make me— value in society motty and we make the mistake of thinking, webb— make the mistake of thinking, webb fbere-e— make the mistake of thinking, well, there's some kind of unberbybng— well, there's some kind of underlying law— well, there's some kind of underlying law at play here that we can never achieve a society or, we can never achieve a society you— we can never achieve a society you-bbve— we can never achieve a society you-bbve bn- we can never achieve a society you-bbve bn a- we can never achieve a society or, you live in a city or, you know, live in a city wbere— or, you know, live in a city where actually— or, you know, live in a city where actually there's mixing ana— where actually there's mixing and fbere-e— where actually there's mixing and there's equality. often it's becuee— and there's equality. often it's because there's— and there's equality. often it's because there's some other facfor— because there's some other facfor af— because there's some other facfor af bbay— because there's some other factor at play like poverty or be— factor at play like poverty or be bow— factor at play like poverty or like low household incomes or beobbe— like low household incomes or beobbe reabby— like low household incomes or people really struggling. and so normabby— people really struggling. and so normally there's— people really struggling. and so normally there's something else acfuabby— normally there's something else actually that's— normally there's something else actually that's that's causing the difficulty— actually that's that's causing the difficulty .— actually that's that's causing the difficulty . it's not that the difficulty. it's not that fbere-e— the difficulty. it's not that there's some— the difficulty. it's not that there's some inherent law that we can never achieve state that we can never achieve state that we wanf. — we can never achieve state that we wanf. boob— we can never achieve state that we want. look, both- we can never achieve state that we want. look, both of you, i really, really enjoyed that, actually . well, go on. for actually. well, go on. for i could tell you were itching to get involved there. go on. quickly. it's quickly. quickly. it's important. we celebrate important. we need to celebrate cubfure— important. we need to celebrate culture. _ beautiful- culture. culture is a beautiful fbbng— culture. culture is a beautiful fbbng ana— culture. culture is a beautiful fbbng and we— culture. culture is a beautiful thing and we need to celebrate fbaf— thing and we need to celebrate fbaf wabouf— thing and we need to celebrate that without extinguishing it. but that without extinguishing it. buflfbe— that without extinguishing it. but-the same— that without extinguishing it. but the same time , it's about but at the same time, it's about intersectionality_ but at the same time, it's about intersectionality .— but at the same time, it's about intersectionality . we need to intersectionality. we need to put— intersectionality. we need to our focue— intersectionality. we need to our focue on— intersectionality. we need to put focus on intersectionality . put focus on intersectionality. fbaf-e— put focus on intersectionality. fbaf-e wbaf-e— put focus on intersectionality. that's what's missing. all rbgbf. — that's what's missing. all rbgbf. -bofb- that's what's missing. all right. both you, that's what's missing. all- right. _bothlyou, thank right. look, both of you, thank you—sorry.- right. look, both of you, thank you—sorry. saml right. look, both of you, thank you—sorry. sam. b you very much. sorry, sam, i haven't to back to haven't got time to go back to you well. there we go, you as well. but there we go, both you. thank very both of you. thank you very much. was, course, much. that was, of course, a political figure, philanthropist, farage london on social research. dr. sam bars. i'm delve into the i'm just going to delve into the inbox because

i'm just going to delve into the inbois because i'm just going to delve into the inbois in because i'm just going to delve into the inbois in relation because i'm just going to delve into the inbois in relation to because i'm just going to delve into the inbois in relation to suella se this is in relation to suella braverman fast braverman comments about fast paced, culturalism how paced, multi culturalism and how essentially believes will essentially she believes it will end it won't be end in tears because it won't be managed. it also is worthwhile noting that it comes in noting as well that it comes in the of apparently suella the wake of apparently suella braverman the wake of apparently suella braverm the cabinet approved the wake of apparently suella bravone the cabinet approved the wake of apparently suella bravone of; cabinet approved the wake of apparently suella bravone of her binet approved the wake of apparently suella bravone of herbinet to approved the wake of apparently suella bravone of herbinet to help �*oved just one of her plans to help cut migration and she cut net migration and she essentially now feels quite marginalised speaking marginalised and is speaking out. but i was asking you whether are worried whether or not you are worried about britain and about the future of britain and whether not you think that whether or not you think that multiculturalism whether or not you think that multindeedilism whether or not you think that multindeed work. david's been will indeed work. david's been on. he says patriot multiculturalism has failed. he on. he says patriot multthatiralism has failed. he on. he says patriot multthat inlism has failed. he on. he says patriot multthat in his] has failed. he on. he says patriot multthat in his area, failed. he on. he says patriot multthat in his area, englishie says that in his area, english is now a second language and that culture is being replaced. and it's a real shame that people feel like that, isn't it? and think we all and i think we can we can all agree with that. it is worthwhile noting, of course, that there plenty of people that there are plenty of people as cities who do feel as well in cities who do feel like it's absolutely vibrant and they they love it and they they and they love it and they don't particularly feel the need for of for there to be this kind of unifying british culture, as it were. experiencing unifying british culture, as it wmajor experiencing unifying british culture, as it wmajor throughoutriencing unifying british culture, as it wmajor throughout the :ing unifying british culture, as it wmajor throughout the uk, a major shift throughout the uk, if not controlled . our if not controlled. our sovereignty at risk and sovereignty is at risk and that's layers and layers. that's from layers and layers. i would like to on would like you to expand on that a what a little bit. really. what do you think risk ? is it

you think is at risk? is it those kind quotes quotes, those kind of quotes and quotes, british talking british values i was talking about has been about before, language has been mentioned, law, the way about before, language has been men we bed, law, the way about before, language has been men we go law, the way about before, language has been men we go about law, the way about before, language has been men we go about ourw, the way about before, language has been menwe go about our lives; way about before, language has been men we go about our lives gety that we go about our lives get in touch. do you think the suella is right to suella braverman is right to identify in her view, identify that in her view, multiculturalism , this multiculturalism, this particular rate is going to potentially do a bit more damage to society than it is going to actually benefit it? gb views at gb news .uk get your views coming in and get yourself on the telly now though. rishi sunakis the telly now though. rishi sunak is under fire after launching the biggest raid launching the biggest tax raid in years. that means that in 44 years. that means that 1 in 44 years. that means that 1 in 5 people will find themselves paying in 5 people will find themselves paying higher rate and paying higher rate tax. and i'm sorry, absolute sorry, but this is absolute madness. earth can you madness. how on earth can you expect people like police officers, example officers, for example, to be considered rate tax considered higher rate tax payers? they feel like it payers? they don't feel like it ehhen payers? they don't feel like it either. balances with either. the bank balances with respect, look like it. i'm respect, don't look like it. i'm patrick

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fbere— figures that stood out to me, fbere-abouf— figures that stood out to me, there-about the- figures that stood out to me, there about the employment there was about the employment rare.— there was about the employment rafe. fbe— there was about the employment rate, the unemployment rate, and wbaf— rate, the unemployment rate, and wbaf-ao— rate, the unemployment rate, and wbaf-ao-fbafe- what can we do about that? wbaf-e— what can we do about that? wbaf-e fbe — what can we do about that? what's the reality? what kind of robe—nor— what's the reality? what kind of robe—nor oobnge- what's the reality? what kind of jobs—not doing? - jobs are people not doing? webb— jobs are people not doing? well, unemployment- jobs are people not doing? well, unemployment is- jobs are people not doing? well, unemployment is still quite but quite low. it's still 3.9. but vacancies are high. there are still over a million vacancies, even though the number of vacancies has been coming down in the last year, it's in over the last year, it's still high. there's a lot of employers that need workers that still high. there's a lot of emploaroundat need workers that still high. there's a lot of emplo around in 1eed workers that still high. there's a lot of emplo around in theirworkers that still high. there's a lot of emplo around in their areas.; that aren't around in their areas. there's what we call geograph mismatch where the jobs are isn't where the right people are. and there are people where there aren't jobs and there's occupational mismatch as well. so a skilled worker. so you need a skilled worker. but the workers with a specific skills you need close to skills you need aren't close to your business. so these are issues . but in general, issues. but in general, unemployment is still , still unemployment is still, still remains low . when i was remains quite low. when i was a kid, it was like ten, 11. it's now 3.9% too higher than we'd want it. but certainly no disaster at the moment. no, absolutely. i am also very, very big absolutely. i am also very, very bbg on— absolutely. i am also very, very bbg on wbaf— absolutely. i am also very, very bbg on wbaf b— absolutely. i am also very, very big on what i think— absolutely. i am also very, very big on what i think is- 22:22 i am also very, very big on what i think is just gubfe— big on what i think is just quite immoral— big on what i think is just quite immoral, big on what i think is just quite immoral , actually, which quite immoral, actually, which is quite immoral, actually, which be abouf— quite immoral, actually, which is about this— quite immoral, actually, which is about this tax— quite immoral, actually, which is about this tax hike that eeebng— is about this tax hike that we're seeing at- is about this tax hike that we're seeing at the moment for

geome— we're seeing at the moment for peoplev pimple— we're seeing at the moment for people, people going into the bbgber— people, people going into the bbgber fav— people, people going into the higher tax bracket, people who just higher tax bracket, people who buef obbecfbve— higher tax bracket, people who buef obbecfbve .— higher tax bracket, people who just objective , in— higher tax bracket, people who just objective , in my view, just just objective, in my view, just eboubcfn-f— just objective, in my view, just eboubcfn-f be— just objective, in my view, just shouldn't be there . people who shouldn't be there. people who are shouldn't be there. people who nor— shouldn't be there. people who are not wealthy— shouldn't be there. people who are not wealthy individuals eboubcf— are not wealthy individuals eboubcf be— are not wealthy individuals should be nowhere really near paying— should be nowhere really near baybng fbe— should be nowhere really near paying the highest rate of tax. but paying the highest rate of tax. buf fbbe— paying the highest rate of tax. buf fbbe be— paying the highest rate of tax. but this is happening now. 2 but this is happening now. it is. but this is happening now. it be. so— but this is happening now. it be. so b— but this is happening now. it is. so i mentioned— but this is happening now. 2 but this is happening now. it is. so i mentioned earlier, we don't need to bring the graphic up, but i mentioned earlier that you're now seeing, you know, pretty pay rises, 7% pretty chunky pay rises, 7% private sector pay rise during the three months first three months of this year compared to the first three months of last yeah the first three months of last year. 5.6% public sector year. you got 5.6% public sector pay year. you got 5.6% public sector pay rise over the same period. that's biggest public sector that's the biggest public sector pay that's the biggest public sector pay years. but it's pay rise in 20 years. but it's still way than inflation, still way less than inflation, which 10. so people's real which is 10. so people's real wages, as we call them, are still going but on top of still going down. but on top of that, even though their headline real wages are going down after inflation because these tax threshold have been frozen now by rishi sunak when he was chancellor then jeremy hunt when he was chancellor from 2022 to 2027, the start rate of tax, 12.5 grand after 12.5 grand, you

pay 12.5 grand after 12.5 grand, you pay 20% tax all the way up to where the top threshold kicks in. but that top threshold has been frozen at just over 50 grand. so again, as wages go up and inflation goes up, more and more of what you earn, more and more of what you earn, more and more of what you earn, more and more of your headline pay is sucked into a higher tax bracket. this is what we call fiscal drag. and there's a really interesting report out from the institute for fiscal studies today, and it is understandably been getting a lot of play in the media, not least on gb news. i've been talking about it all day and it shows this, patrick. it shows, as you said , that by 2027, 1 in as you said, that by 2027, 1 in 5 workers will be paying the top rate of tax. this is a rate of tax that was meant for very, very wealthy people. and yet it will include by 2027, a quarter of teachers, a third of police officers , you know, a high officers, you know, a high number of , officers, you know, a high number of, you officers, you know, a high number of , you know, ten, 15% of number of, you know, ten, 15% of construction workers . these are construction workers. these are not wealthy people. if we look back, if we drill down into the ifs report, which i've got here,

arnie in 1993, less than 1% of nurses pay the top rate of tax. you know, the most senior matrons with lots of overtime . matrons with lots of overtime. um, now it's going to be 15. that's mad. construction and building workers, as i said , it building workers, as i said, it was 5% back in 1993 and now it's over 10. you've got teachers, a quarter of whom are going to be paying quarter of whom are going to be paying top rate of tax electricians, 1 in 5 of whom are going to be paying top rate of tax. and look, this is the thing, patrick. the economy works in a way that lots of politicians don't understand. it's you get into the it's not that you get into the top tax bracket and then you stay there. not how, of stay there. that's not how, of course, people who have course, some people who have those of jobs . but for a those kind of jobs. but for a lot of people in the middle, a lot of people in the middle, a lot of people in the middle, a lot of people, the alarm clock classes, if you like, the people who make economy who get up and make the economy move day and provide the move every day and provide the goods and services that the rest of us rely they push of us rely on, they will push themselves. do themselves. they will do overtime . they will the extra overtime. they will go the extra mile. they will drive their business forward to earn more money themselves and their

money for themselves and their family particularly important family at particularly important times. they've a bill to times. they've got a bill to pay- times. they've got a bill to pay. they're moving house. they've got elderly parents. they've got elderly parents. they need looking after. they've saving a holiday. they're saving for a holiday. they're saving for a holiday. they're saving a car. this is how saving for a car. this is how most work in the way most people work in the way politicians understand. most people work in the way politicians are understand. most people work in the way politicians are clobbering nd. most people work in the way politicians are clobbering those and if you are clobbering those people squeezed middle people in the squeezed middle you are taking away over half of what they earn. 40% rate of tax, and then 11% nick national insurance on top of that. why will they bother? and this is the concern for me, an opinion. this is an opinion. i've given you the facts. my opinion is that this is an anti aspiration set of stealth taxes. and if you add up all these stealth taxes, just these threshold freezes as the ifs itself says, and the ifs aren't averse to a bit of tax, you know, frankly , the ifs you know, frankly, the ifs conclude with detailed calculations that the freezing of these tax thresholds adds up patrick to an extra four pe on the basic rate of income tax and you've right to hit the nail on the head. it sucks the

aebbrafbon— the head. it sucks the aspiration and- 2 it sucks the aspiration and ambition out of beobbe— aspiration and ambition out of beobbe fbaf— aspiration and ambition out of beobbe fbaf ger— aspiration and ambition out of people that get up and go in men— people that get up and go in their desire— people that get up and go in their desire to— people that get up and go in their desire to work. but also wben— their desire to work. but also wben you— their desire to work. but also when you look— their desire to work. but also when you look around and you fbbnb— when you look around and you fbbnb bf— when you look around and you think it would— when you look around and you think it would be— when you look around and you think it would be just about babafabbe— think it would be just about palatable thought, palatable if people thought, webb—ae- palatable if people thought, well,_as slick. palatable if people thought, well,_as slick as| well, our nhs is as slick as anyrbbng.— well, our nhs is as slick as anyfbbng. our— well, our nhs is as slick as anything, our transport system is anything, our transport system beae-— anything, our transport system beae- anyfbbng- anything, our transport system is as anything. our is as slick as anything. our bubbbc—ebbcbi is as slick as anything. our. public—slick as public services are as slick as anybbbng—now- anything. but i think now arguabby— anything. but i think now arguably-than. anything. but i think now arguably-than time anything. but i think now arltheyly-than time anything. but i think now arlthe last-than time anything. but i think now arlthe last 10 .than time anything. but i think now arlthe last 10 or than time anything. but i think now arlthe last 10 or 151an time anything. but i think now arlthe last 10 or 15 years, time in the last 10 or 15 years, maybe— in the last 10 or 15 years, maybe beobbe— in the last 10 or 15 years, maybe people will look outside and maybe people will look outside amo-ou— maybe people will look outside and-our public- and think that our public eervbcee— and think that our public. services—them services are not giving them bang— services are not giving themi bang—barge bang for the extremely large amoun— bang for the extremely large amounf—fbeyl bang for the extremely largei amount—they are amount of buck that they are bebng— amount of buck that they are being-pay- amount of buck that they are bebng-bay for- amount of buck that they are being pay for them. being asked to pay for them. and fbaf— being asked to pay for them. and fbaf b— being asked to pay for them. and fbaf b fbbnb— being asked to pay for them. and that i think, is— being asked to pay for them. and that i think, is a— being asked to pay for them. and that i think, is a particularly baa— that i think, is a particularly bad fbbng.— that i think, is a particularly bad thing. but— that i think, is a particularly bad thing. but what would the abfernafbve— bad thing. but what would the alternative be?— bad thing. but what would the alternative be?-is- bad thing. but what would the alternative be? is the alternative be? this is the fbbng. — thing. are there alternatives to me— thing. are there alternatives to fbbe—you- thing. are there alternatives to fbbe—you go| thing. are there alternatives toi fbbe—you go for this out there? could you go for bower— this out there? could you go for lower—economy. this out there? could you go for. lower—economy more lower tax, grow the economy more and lower tax, grow the economy more amo—eenbcee- and then our public services wouba—be- and then our public services would—is thisi and then our public services. would—is this the would do better? or is this the onby— would do better? or is this the onby way— would do better? or is this the onby way fo— would do better? or is this the onby way no go— would do better? or is this the only way to go about �*fvr�*2;22 only way to go about it? well, i fbbnb— only way to go about it? well, i fbbnb monf— only way to go about it? well, i think most most people this think most most people in this country , they don't mind paying country, they don't mind paying a bit tax . they understand we a bit of tax. they understand we need to pay tax for need to pay tax asian for schools and hospitals, roads and the and all the rest of the police and all the rest of it. but when the rate of tax is going up so much and when the tax burdens already at a 70 year high and you've got more taxes to come through, these stealth taxes, taxes , which politicians taxes, taxes, which politicians haven't even got the guts to

properly expose , you know, it's properly expose, you know, it's taken me quite a long time to explain this and still quite a lot of people listening. so what's he going on about? you know, quite hard. no know, it's quite hard. no disrespect viewers disrespect to viewers and listeners, fiscal drag listeners, but it's fiscal drag is complex thing until is quite a complex thing until you understand it. and then when you understand it. and then when you understand it. and then when you understand suddenly you understand it, suddenly you're about. that's you're like, hang about. that's really ripped up. that's really unfair. ripped up. that's really unfair. ripped up. that's really unfair. ripped up. that's really unfair. look, the other way to do it is to keep taxes steady or even lower taxes . for steady or even lower taxes. for instance, corporation tax and boost the share of the pie. then you have to take a smaller share of that pie to pay for the pubuc of that pie to pay for the public services that we all rely on. but look , there's a massive on. but look, there's a massive ideological and philosophical debate going on at the heart of the conservative party , and the conservative party, and labour aren't going to get involved because, you know, the first rule of politics is when your opponents , you know, having your opponents, you know, having a stand in way, a rule don't stand in their way, don't from don't take attention away from them. you know, when this them. but you know, when this ifs number came out this morning about stealth taxes straightaway, you had a guy called simon clarke. he's an mp

from up there in the north—east of england. he was formerly a lieutenant of liz truss. was lieutenant of liz truss. he was housing secretary under liz truss. you know , all truss. he just, you know, all guns blazing this is this is not the conservative way this is going to lose us votes . and going to lose us votes. and rishi sunak he didn't do well in the local elections last week, but he didn't do catastroph hinckley it's issues like this, taxation that are going to start opening up the wounds at the heart of the conservative party. and it is it is. it doesn't take a rocker— and it is it is. it doesn't take a rocket scientist— and it is it is. it doesn't take a rocket scientist or- and it is it is. it doesn't take a rocket scientist or a- a rocket scientist or a neurosurgeon to realise why. now the conservatives— neurosurgeon to realise why. now the conservatives are two fringe conferences in a— the conservatives are two fringe conferences in a week because fbey— conferences in a week because they-desperately- conferences in a week because they desperately struggling they are desperately struggling to they are desperately struggling fo fbna— they are desperately struggling fo fbncf fbebr— they are desperately struggling to find their identity. thank you—bbam - to find their identity. thank. you _ liam halligan. to find their identity. thank you is liam halligan. to find their identity. thank you is our liam halligan. to find their identity. thank you is our economicsalligan. to find their identity. thank you is our economics and an. there is our economics and buebneee— there is our economics and business live— there is our economics and business live on- there is our economics and business live on the money bbgbe— business live on the money bbgbfe okay.— business live on the money right? okay. i've got a load combng— right? okay. i've got a load combng your— right? okay. i've got a load coming your way, ladies and genfbemen. — coming your way, ladies and gentlemen. between now and 5 pm,— gentlemen. between now and 5 bme-90t— gentlemen. between now and 5 bm-gof yer— gentlemen. between now and si bme-got yet-his;h p.m, we've got yet another high coun— p.m, we've got yet another high court-involving- court battle involving prince barny— court battle involving prince nary—ae- court battle involving prince nary—ae b- court battle involving prince nary—ae b can- court battle involving prince. harry,_as i can tell, harry, who as far as i can tell, eeeenfbabby— harry, who as far as i can tell, essentially wants— harry, who as far as i can tell, essentially wants police offbcere— essentially wants police officers to _ essentially wants police officers to be- essentially wants police officers to be to be taken off fbe—from - officers to be to be taken off. the—from doing the beat, taken off from doing fbebr— the beat, taken off from doing their-protect— the beat, taken off from doing their-protect you- the beat, taken off from doing their protect you so that their job to protect you so that fbey— their job to protect you so that fbey can— their job to protect you so that they can - protect - their job to protect you so that they can protect him. is they can go and protect him. is fbbe— they can go and protect him. is fbbe-fbe— they can go and protect him. is this-the height— they can go and protect him. is this-the height of- this just the height of arrogance?- this just the height of arrogance? we'll follow this just the height of- arrogance? .we'll follow up arrogance? and we'll follow up

on-bafeb-e— arrogance? and we'll follow up on-patel's very— on priti patel's very interesting - on priti patel's very interesting on priti patel's very interesti and ask boris on priti patel's very interesti and ask a boris on priti patel's very interesti and ask a tory boris on priti patel's very interesti and ask a tory mp, boris on priti patel's very— interesti and ask a tory mp, is)ris on priti patel's very— interesti and ask a tory mp, is its johnson and ask a tory mp, is it rbme— johnson and ask a tory mp, is it fbme fo— johnson and ask a tory mp, is it fbme fo brbng— johnson and ask a tory mp, is it time to bring back— johnson and ask a tory mp, is it time to bring back boris or wbbeber— time to bring back boris or wbbeber bf— time to bring back boris or whisper it quietly? it's suella for you. — whisper it quietly? it's suella for you. rbref— whisper it quietly? it's suella for you. first though, headlines wab— for you. first though, headlines wab bobby— for you. first though, headlines with polly middlehurst . with polly middlehurst. the top scores— with polly middlehurst. the top eforbee fbbe— with polly middlehurst. the top stories this hour— with polly middlehurst. the top stories this hour .— with polly middlehurst. the top stories this hour . three with polly middlehurst. the top stories this hour. three men who suppued stories this hour. three men who supplied fake passports to criminals have been jailed. anthony beard, christopher btec and alan thompson helped murderers and drug dealers evade justice. chris beard, who paid vulnerable people for their expired documents , was sentenced expired documents, was sentenced to six years and eight months. his accomplice , his btec and his accomplice, his btec and thompson, will be serving a combined term of 11 years. essex police is investigating an allegation of serious sexual assault concerning the solihull mp julian knight. it follows a referral by scotland yard and comes after the metropolitan police dropped its investigation into a claim more than a month ago . mr knight, who was stripped

ago. mr knight, who was stripped of the conservative whip, has denied what he says is a false and malicious accusation. he doesn't plan to run at the next election , and the environment election, and the environment secretary has stressed the wider importance of an affordable and sustainable and resilient food supply chain at the farm to fork summit in downing street today, the government's promising a fairer price for farmers produce and has pledged to get a wider range of their products on supermarket shelves. the latest figures show that meat, yoghurt and vegetables are just some of the items that have doubled in price compared to a year ago amid high inflation. theresa coffey says the new package of measures will boost the food supply chain and grow the economy and the head of the royal college of nursing is urging union members to vote in favour of further to favour of further walkouts to strengthen their hand in negotiations with the government. a postal ballot on new strikes will open next week after the rcn turned down a 5% pay after the rcn turned down a 5% pay rise this year and a one off

payment for last year. addressing the annual conference, pat cullen said the government will be forced to improve their offer if the union has another six month strike mandate . but those are your mandate. but those are your latest news headlines. we're back in half an hour. prince harry is involved in yet another high court battle today. the duke of sussex is attempting to the duke of sussex is attempting fo brbng— the duke of sussex is attempting fo brbng a— the duke of sussex is attempting to bring a second— the duke of sussex is attempting to bring a second legal cbabbenge— to bring a second legal challenge against the home offbce— challenge against the home offbce ove— challenge against the home office over his— challenge against the home office over his security arrangements. when in the uk . so arrangements. when in the uk. so he arrangements. when in the uk. so be be— arrangements. when in the uk. so be be eeebng— arrangements. when in the uk. so he is seeking the— arrangements. when in the uk. so he is seeking the go— arrangements. when in the uk. so he is seeking the go ahead to secure a judicial— he is seeking the go ahead to secure a judicial review over a becbebon— secure a judicial review over a becbebon fbaf— secure a judicial review over a decision that he— secure a judicial review over a decision that he should not be above— decision that he should not be abbowea fo— decision that he should not be abbowea ro bay— decision that he should not be allowed to pay privately for his brofecfbve— allowed to pay privately for his protective security. so harry wanfe— protective security. so harry wanfe fo— protective security. so harry wanfe ro bay— protective security. so harry wants to pay his— protective security. so harry wants to pay his own money for eecurbfy— wants to pay his own money for eecurbfy ae— wants to pay his own money for security as and— wants to pay his own money for security as and when he's in the un — security as and when he's in the be very— security as and when he's in the uk. very controversial list. a lot uk. very controversial list. a bof of— uk. very controversial list. a bof of beobbe— uk. very controversial list. a lot of people think it's very arroganc— lot of people think it's very arrogant because it would bofenfbabby— arrogant because it would potentially take bobbies off the bear— potentially take bobbies off the bear-maf— potentially take bobbies off the beat-that might— potentially take bobbies off the beat that might to your beat and that might lead to your eafefy— beat and that might lead to your safety compromised. safety being compromised. but

for safety being compromised. buti for—wbaf-e for more of the detail on what's bebng— for more of the detail on what's bang-coun— for more of the detail on what's being-court, let's- being said in court, let's go now—national. being said in court, let's go- now_national reporter now to gb news national reporter baub— now to gb news national reporter naub nawbbne.— now to gb news national reporter paul hawkins. so— now to gb news national reporter paul hawkins. so what is going on bere— paul hawkins. so what is going on here then?— paul hawkins. so what is going on here then? so,— paul hawkins. so what is going on here then? so, harry, baebcabby— on here then? so, harry, basically wants to be able to pay— basically wants to be able to bay for— basically wants to be able to bay for be— basically wants to be able to pay for his own— basically wants to be able to pay for his own protection, is fbaf— pay for his own protection, is fbaf-e — pay for his own protection, is that-? that's- pay for his own protection, is that-? that's it.- pay for his own protection, is that ? 2 that right? that's it. that's basically it. so he offered the home office, the option of i'll pay home office, the option of i'll pay for the police protection. it'll come out of my pocket . it'll come out of my pocket. they refuse that. and so now he's launching an application for a judicial review of that decision. today was a preliminary hearing to work out whether it does go to a judicial review. it's only meant to last one hour, but the judge's own words, this is a complicated case. and so they sat in court all day and now they've adjourned for the day. and then the judgement will be passed down in due course. so clearly there was more for the judge to consider because we were expecting today . we expecting a judgement today. we heard from shaheed fatima , she's heard from shaheed fatima, she's the lawyer for prince harry, arguing that the decision by the home office not to allow him to pay home office not to allow him to pay for his own police

protection made no sense, she said. and that it went beyond the remit of the committee that makes these decisions. the committee is called ravec . she committee is called ravec. she said it was inconsistent with the specific law that allows the chief officer of the police to provide special police services. subject to payment. and she also said that that decision should have been made, therefore by the met police commissioner and that there was no opportunity for prince to harry make any representations to ravec before they made that decision. now after that, we heard from the lawyer for the home office, robert palmer, who pointed out that there are certain criteria that there are certain criteria that they consider when they make these kinds of decisions , make these kinds of decisions, whether it's based on public interest , the risk to interest, the risk to individuals , the amount of individuals, the amount of resources, but not the willingness of the individual to fund the policing privately . fund the policing privately. albie he also pointed out that individual police protection is different from policing public events and that this requires specialist police officers that only that committee ravec can

decide on. then in the afternoon we heard from matthew, but he's the lawyer representing the metropolitan police. he said it can't be right that the officers are expected to present themselves and expose themselves to of unique risk in to that level of unique risk in public, in the public interest. but because the policing body is to be financially compensated . to be financially compensated. and then just finally, patrick, he also said providing armed police officers to those who pay would divert resources from those who warrant protection . it those who warrant protection. it also creates a precedent that other wealthy individuals may also then seek to try and get the police to protect them in reward for cash effectively . reward for cash effectively. albie. so it would set a precedent there. now this is hopefully going to or at least prince harry hopes it's going to go to a full judicial review. he's already been successful in another judicial review application and that the application and that is the complete withdrawal of the home office protection. so this is about for that police about who pays for that police protection on the one that will

go to a full trial. already is the is the actual provision of those of that police protection in the first place. interesting stuff. fascinating. thank you, naub — stuff. fascinating. thank you, naub manb— fascinating. thank you, paul. paul hawkins, paul. thank you. paul hawkins, our paul. thank you. paul hawkins, nafbonab— paul. thank you. paul hawkins, our national reporter— paul. paul hawkins, our national reporter outside fbe— our national reporter outside fbe boyab— our national reporter outside the royal court— our national reporter outside the royal court of justice . do the royal court of justice. do you— the royal court of justice. do you non-f— the royal court of justice. do you don't think— the royal court of justice. do you don't think this is incredibly— you don't think this is incredibly arrogant from prince narrye— incredibly arrogant from prince narrye okay.— incredibly arrogant from prince narrye okay. so— incredibly arrogant from prince harry? okay. so he made his cbcbebone— harry? okay. so he made his decisions-made- harry? okay. so he made his decisions. made his bed. decisions. he's made his bed. nee— decisions. he's made his bed. he's-somewhere. decisions. he's made his bed. he's somewhere in he's lying in it somewhere in cabbfornba.— he's lying in it somewhere in california-for- he's lying in it somewhere in california. for him. okay. california. good for him. okay. on-of— california. good for him. okay. on-of-bf- california. good for him. okay. on-of-it could. california. good for him. okay. . on-of-it could well on a bed of money, it could well be ae— on a bed of money, it could well be ae webb— on a bed of money, it could well be as well, couldn't— on a bed of money, it could well be as well, couldn't and be as well, couldn't it? and fbem— be as well, couldn't it? and fben—gofi be as well, couldn't it? and. fben—gof fbaf then just because he's got that money— then just because he's got that money . be— then just because he's got that money now , he wants back money now, he wants to come back as money now, he wants to come back ae-be— money now, he wants to come back ae-be ooee— money now, he wants to come back ae-be noee come- money now, he wants to come back as-he does come back. money now, he wants to come back as he does come back to as and when he does come back to the as and when he does come back to fbe counfry— as and when he does come back to fbe counfry fbaf— as and when he does come back to the country that he _ as and when he does come back to the country that he has, i would ague— the country that he has, i would auecoureeg—l argue, trashed over the course of-baef— argue, trashed over the course of-last couple— argue, trashed over the course of-last couple of- argue, trashed over the course of last couple of years and of the last couple of years and be abbe— of the last couple of years and be abbelbbre— of the last couple of years and be able-hire the— of the last couple of years and be able hire the police. so be able to hire the police. so we abreacfy— be able to hire the police. so we already have— be able to hire the police. so we already have massive problems , we already have massive problems . non-f— we already have massive problems . non-f we— we already have massive problems . non-f af— we already have massive problems , don't we, at the— we already have massive problems , don't we, at the moment with bnbfe— , don't we, at the moment with bnbfe crbme— , don't we, at the moment with knife crime, with— , don't we, at the moment with knife crime, with drug dealing, wab— knife crime, with drug dealing, wab eevuab— knife crime, with drug dealing, with sexual assaults against b— with sexual assaults against women? i mean,— with sexual assaults against women? i mean, you name it, gor— women? i mean, you name it, gof bf.— women? i mean, you name it, we've got it. okay.— women? i mean, you name it, we've got it. okay. and the idea fbaf— we've got it. okay. and the idea fbaf bf— we've got it. okay. and the idea fbaf bf youve— we've got it. okay. and the idea that if you've got— we've got it. okay. and the idea that if you've got the money, you— that if you've got the money, you couba— that if you've got the money, you couba buy— that if you've got the money, you could buy police protection. wbaf— you could buy police protection. wbaf fbey— you could buy police protection. what they also _ you could buy police protection. what they also said there as webb— what they also said there as webb-fbaf— what they also said there as well-that it— what they also said there as well that it could expose well was that it could expose bobbce— well was that it could expose police officers— well was that it could expose police officers to _ well was that it could expose police officers to an additional unprecedented— police officers to an additional unprecedented level of risk , unprecedented level of risk, fbaf— unprecedented level of risk, fbaf wab—

unprecedented level of risk, that with respect, they might not necessarily— that with respect, they might not necessarily get when they're wabbbng— not necessarily get when they're wabbbng fbe— not necessarily get when they're walking the beat.— not necessarily get when they're walking the beat. i mean , to me, walking the beat. i mean, to me, fbbe— walking the beat. i mean, to me, fbbe-abbear— walking the beat. i mean, to me, fbbe-abbear fbbe— walking the beat. i mean, to me, this appear like prince this does appear like prince barny— this does appear like prince baby be— this does appear like prince harry is content— this does appear like prince harry is content for to be harry is content for you to be be— harry is content for you to be beee-eo— harry is content for you to be beee-eo fbaf— harry is content for you to be less-so that he- harry is content for you to be less so that he can be more less safe so that he can be more eafe— less safe so that he can be more eafe becuee— less safe so that he can be more safe because he's— less safe so that he can be more safe because he's got the money in safe because he's got the money bn order— safe because he's got the money bn orber fo— safe because he's got the money bn order no bay— safe because he's got the money in order to pay for— safe because he's got the money in order to pay for that. and fbaf-e— in order to pay for that. and fbaf-e nor— in order to pay for that. and that's not-liberal. in order to pay for that. and that's not liberal level that's not very de liberal level cbbne— that's not very de liberal level enfe-anyway— that's not very de liberal level elite, anyway joining me elite, is it? anyway joining me be— elite, is it? anyway joining me be abbe— elite, is it? anyway joining me now is mike neville, who's a former— now is mike neville, who's a former-chief- now is mike neville, who's a. former-chief inspector former detective chief inspector at former detective chief inspector af scofbana— former detective chief inspector at scotland - look, - former detective chief inspector at scotland look, mike, at scotland yard. look, mike, fbanb—for- at scotland yard. look, mike,- thank _for joining at scotland yard. look, mike,- thani'm_for joining at scotland yard. look, mike, thani'm going forjoining at scotland yard. look, mike, thani'm going to forjoining at scotland yard. look, mike, thani'm going to lobby rjoining at scotland yard. look, mike, thani'm going to lobby over|ing at scotland yard. look, mike, thani'm going to lobby over to; me. i'm going to lobby over to you— me. i'm going to lobby over to you-mean, prince- me. i'm going to lobby over to you mean, prince harry you here. i mean, prince harry eeeenfbabby— you here. i mean, prince harry essentially wants— you here. i mean, prince harry essentially wants to hire the fence— essentially wants to hire the bobbce .— essentially wants to hire the police . would— essentially wants to hire the police . would that would police. would that not would fbaf— police. would that not would fbaf nor— police. would that not would that not make— police. would that not would that not make the public less eafe— that not make the public less eafe-way— that not make the public less safe .way because - that not make the public less safe way because it's safe in a way because it's resources,-? - safe in a way because it's resources,-? it. safe in a way because it's| resources,-? it is. resources, isn't it? it is. i mean, those police officers should be used for armed incidents where the communities at threat. so we know the brobbeme— at threat. so we know the problems with— at threat. so we know the problems with gun- 322222 so we know the problems with gun crime and 2r2“2;r22 so we know the problems with gun crime and the be.— problems with gun crime and the be. fbe— problems with gun crime and the like. the issue— problems with gun crime and the like. the issue he's— problems with gun crime and the like. the issue he's got, of course, is if— like. the issue he's got, of course, is if he— like. the issue he's got, of course, is if he was in the us, he course, is if he was in the us, be couba— course, is if he was in the us, be coubcf bueb— course, is if he was in the us, he could just hire— course, is if he was in the us, he could just hire armed guards in he could just hire armed guards bn fbe— he could just hire armed guards bn fbe ub— he could just hire armed guards bn fbe uv. fbey— he could just hire armed guards in the uk. they are. that's forbbcfcfen— in the uk. they are. that's forbbcfcfen .— in the uk. they are. that's forbidden . you— in the uk. they are. that's forbidden . you can't do that. forbidden. you can't do that. buf— forbidden. you can't do that. buf fbere— forbidden. you can't do that. buf fbere be— forbidden. you can't do that. but there is a— forbidden. you can't do that. but there is a degree of arrogance here that he thinks he can arrogance here that he thinks he bemana— arrogance here that he thinks he bemana bf— arrogance here that he thinks he can demand it and— arrogance here that he thinks he can demand it and it's up to the fence— can demand it and it's up to the bobbce cbbefe— can demand it and it's up to the police chiefs what— can demand it and it's up to the police chiefs what they use fbebr— police chiefs what they use their resources— police chiefs what they use their resources for and what fbey— their resources for and what fbey gef. — their resources for and what fbey gef. fbe— their resources for and what they get. the money for. the

fence— they get. the money for. the bobbce acr— they get. the money for. the police act 1996. _ they get. the money for. the police act 1996. that's how the fence— police act 1996. that's how the bobbce cbarge— police act 1996. that's how the police charge football clubs for bobbcbng— police charge football clubs for policing football— police charge football clubs for policing football clubs or they bobbce— policing football clubs or they bobbce fbbnge— policing football clubs or they police things like remembrance sunbay— police things like remembrance sunday or— police things like remembrance sunday or concerts or whatever fbey— sunday or concerts or whatever fbey beem — sunday or concerts or whatever they deem necessary. but the frame— they deem necessary. but the brbnce abbbe— they deem necessary. but the prince apple here is it's too be— prince apple here is it's too be fbe— prince apple here is it's too it's the police _ prince apple here is it's too it's the police chief's choice wbere— it's the police chief's choice where those _ it's the police chief's choice where those resources are abbocafea— where those resources are abbocafecf .— where those resources are allocated . and- where those resources are allocated . and prince harry is allocated. and prince harry is frybng— allocated. and prince harry is frybng fo— allocated. and prince harry is frybng ro eay— allocated. and prince harry is trying to say, “or— allocated. and prince harry is trying to say, no, no, i'm going to trying to say, no, no, i'm going fo force— trying to say, no, no, i'm going fo force you— trying to say, no, no, i'm going ro force you fo— trying to say, no, no, i'm going to force you to let— trying to say, no, no, i'm going to force you to let me hire your offbcere. — to force you to let me hire your offbcere. ana— to force you to let me hire your officers. and that's— to force you to let me hire your officers. and that's not on, in my— officers. and that's not on, in my vbew— officers. and that's not on, in my wo— officers. and that's not on, in my view. no certainly not. the bubbbc— my view. no certainly not. the bubbbc nave— my view. no certainly not. the bubbbc bave a— my view. no certainly not. the public have a right— my view. no certainly not. the public have a right to know that the police force that they are paying the police force that they are paying for through their own taxes can't be bought by a bloke who is possibly as well . mike as who is possibly as well. mike as added a security risk to himself as a result of some of the comments that he made in his book spare, or as indeed it was taken off by south park as wow, where he admitted to the amount of taliban fighters that he has killed and therefore maybe potentially increasing the islamist risk to both him and his family . and, mike, i will his family. and, mike, i will i'll go back to mike in just a

second. i think we might have lost mike there, but i just want to know what you think as well on all this. ladies and on all of this. ladies and gents. i mean, it's question gents. i mean, it's a question of resources for police, of resources for the police, right? are in a right? and if we are in a situation the where situation at the moment where crime high, would harry crime is high, why would harry have to be or the have the ability to be or the right to over and say, right to come over here and say, well, i'm such a special well, look, i'm such a special figure. i mean, it's interesting as attended court as well. he's attended court on at of occasions as well. he's attended court on at recent of occasions as well. he's attended court on at recent times, of occasions as well. he's attended court on at recent times, and occasions as well. he's attended court on at recent times, and he asions as well. he's attended court on at recent times, and he hasn't, in recent times, and he hasn't, as far can tell, need the as far as i can tell, need the protection of widespread metropolitan potentially metropolitan police, potentially armed police as well. it just just like a hard , if just seems like a very hard, if not hypocritical thing, potentially for me to accept, because why would someone who seems care and bangs on so seems to care and bangs on so much about caring, so much about the needs and the wills of every single most disadvantaged and marginalised people in society, presumably be happy to pay for the officers to not the police officers to not protect that day, and protect them that day, and instead him. why does he instead protect him. why does he think he's special? get your think he's so special? get your views this gb views views coming in on this gb views or news dot uk patrick harry or gb news dot uk patrick harry is just a scrounger. this is from nick. thank you very much.

nick princess anne doesn't demand protection , but the facts demand protection, but the facts have to be faced. she possibly deserves it a bit more because she female. says , oh she is female. carol says, oh look, you moan. if he was asking us to pay. now everyone is moaning because he's offered to pay moaning because he's offered to pay himself. just pay for it himself. you just can't win. but carol, it's not really about the fact that really just about the fact that he's it he's offered to pay for it himself. don't get wrong. himself. don't get me wrong. it's touch, isn't it? it it's a nice touch, isn't it? it will be doubly annoying if prince was that he prince harry was saying that he would pay for it himself. would not pay for it himself. but for it but even if he pays for it himself, question of himself, it's a question of resources it's a question of resources and it's a question of those being those police officers being dragged away from their ordinary duties, by duties, which are funded by taxpayers and about this taxpayers. and what about this is so let's say is a precedent. so let's say george clooney turns up to the uk massive international uk or some massive international superstar turns up to the uk. would there not then be a legal precedent that if you've got the money, you can buy our police force? i don't want to live really in a country where your police force can be bought , police force can be bought, where our metropolitan police or our armed police or our counter—terror police or whoever it is are for hire. this is it not just another privilege that

prince harry gave up when he decided to go and leave this country, cry into oprah's bosom, write his big tell all book where and basically trash in my view, anyway, the royal family you give up certain privileges in life, don't you? and i think being one of them, i've got no doubt that used to enjoy the doubt that it used to enjoy the idea of having armed police protection , but that was protection, but that was something had when he was something he had when he was a working member of the royal family. and why does he want to have itin have his cake and eat it in america ? of course, as mike america? of course, as mike neville , our former detective neville, our former detective chief inspector at scotland yard, was saying, he could pay chief inspector at scotland yarrarmed saying, he could pay chief inspector at scotland yarrarmed guards he could pay chief inspector at scotland yarrarmed guards .e could pay chief inspector at scotland yarrarmed guards . thered pay chief inspector at scotland yarrarmed guards . there might be for armed guards. there might be an obvious solution there. harry and that solution might be to stay america. gb views stay away in america. gb views at gb news .uk. get your views coming in now. former home secretary priti patel has said that boris johnson would win the tories next election. tories at the next election. apparently so, yes. she was speaking rac speaking to dan wootton rac fantastic interview. play fantastic interview. we'll play you of that. so you a little clip of that. so is it time they boris back? it time they brought boris back? okay is it time maybe for okay or is it time maybe for suella? would it be absolute

chaos ? and i mean, definitely chaos? and i mean, definitely laughable, wouldn't it? but if the tories change their leader again before the next election, realistically they're not going to do it. but if it's a question between not changing them and definitely what definitely losing, then what should really be? should the solution really be? patrick on gb news patrick christys on gb news britain's

politicians to protect the armed forcee— politicians to protect the armed focee e— politicians to protect the armed focee erobn— politicians to protect the armed forces ? join me— politicians to protect the armed forces ? join me mark white on gb forces? join me mark white on gb newe— forces? join me mark white on gb wewe ae— forces? join me mark white on gb wewe ae .— forces? join me mark white on gb wewe ae. — forces? join me mark white on gb news as . welcome— forces? join me mark white on gb news as . 2 2 news as. welcome back, everybody. now how about this for an incendiary comment? okay. former home secretary priti patel has said that boris johnson would win the conservative gives the next general election if he were prime minister. now it comes off the of these two fringe the back of these two fringe conservative party events. now, a lot of people are saying this is just a visible sign of the tory party in turmoil. there is a thought says a school of thought that says they're any they're not doing themselves any favours because are favours here because they are showing the cracks within the party, aren't they? rishi sunak last night had loads mps last night had loads of mps round at his house, number ten

to and to chat to to for pork pies and to chat to them and try to keep them all on side and okay, that's fine. but there are clearly power plays taking place at the moment within the conservative party. i suspect about who takes over from and maybe is from him and maybe this is a sign that feel when, not if sign that they feel when, not if he loses the next general election. but priti patel made the comments about boris johnson winning the tories is hypothetical election. if indeed he was in during an he was in power during an interview with our very own dan wootton the national wootton at the national conservatism . i just conservatism conference. i just want to play you a little bit of this and let's just listen this now, and let's just listen to had say and see to what she had to say and see what make of it. leadership what you make of it. leadership cbabbenge. — what you make of it. leadership challenge. _i'll- what you make of it. leadership challenge. i'll be very challenge. before i'll be very candid, i don't think that's going the world of good going to do us the world of good at partly because of at all. and partly because of everything saw everything that the public saw last year in parts my last year in parts of my constituency bring back boris, people were saying that to me very actively and feeling quite embarrassed about what has happened over the last 12 months. we have ejected, you know , in succession now dumas know, in succession now dumas practically elected leaders of

our party. it's happened to margaret thatcher, it's happened to boris. in my view, boris would have won us the next election. i just want to ask you the question that i've been asking. all of these great folk forfay. — asking. all of these great folk forfay. are — asking. all of these great folk today. are team— “2 all of these great folk today. are team boris or team bobebbe— today. are team boris or team bcbebbe were— today. are team boris or team rishi? we're all— today. are team boris or team rishi? we're all conservatives , rishi? we're all conservatives, rbgbfe — rishi? we're all conservatives, rbgbre we-ve— rishi? we're all conservatives, right? we've got— rishi? we're all conservatives, right? we've got to- rishi? we're all conservatives, right? 222 2 2“ right? we've got to focus on winning. and look, i am a massive supporter of boris . massive supporter of boris. there's no doubt about that. i'm deeply loyal as well. on that basis, i was very loyal to boris and i would not change my position. by the way . i really position. by the way. i really wouldn't. yeah, that is interesting. of course, the argumenf— interesting. of course, the argument would- “222222 “2 of course, the argument would be, well, she's “222222 “2 of course, the arglreally would be, well, she's “222222 “2 of course, the arglreally gotild be, well, she's “222222 “2 of course, the arglreally got ai be, well, she's “222222 “2 of course, the arglreally got a top well, she's “222222 “2 of course, the arglreally got a top jobll, she's “222222 “2 of course, the arglreally got a top job anymore not really got a top job anymore ana— not really got a top job anymore amo-sumac— not really got a top job anymore and sunak possibly not her and rishi sunak possibly not her fbavour— and rishi sunak possibly not her fbavourlfbe— and rishi sunak possibly not her flavour-the month,— and rishi sunak possibly not her flavour the month, as flavour of the month, as it so— flavour of the month, as it were. so look,— flavour of the month, as it were. so look, can clearly were. so look, you can clearly eee-wny— were. so look, you can clearly eee-wby ene- were. so look, you can clearly see why she would see as though why she would have a—bn— see as though why she would have a—bn fbe— see as though why she would have a—bn fbe game— see as though why she would have a_in the game for- a bit of skin in the game for bobbe— a bit of skin in the game for boris johnson. _isl a bit of skin in the game for. boris johnson.-is this boris johnson. but there is this funcfamenfab— boris johnson. but there is this fundamental point, there, fundamental point, isn't there, at fundamental point, isn't there, af—be- fundamental point, isn't there, af—be bf- fundamental point, isn't there,| af—be bf you at the moment, which is if you boob— at the moment, which is if you boob af— at the moment, which is if you look at rishi _ at the moment, which is if you look at rishi sunak, his boebfbon— look at rishi sunak, his position in— look at rishi sunak, his position in conservative position in the conservative party— position in the conservative baby—oo- position in the conservative. baby—no you position in the conservative- pany—do you feel party at the moment, do you feel as—panicutarty- as though he particularly eneeeee— as though he particularly energises you.7 do as though he particularly energises you? do you as energises you? do you feel as though— though he's got the capacity to win—borisl win a general election? boris johnson,— win a general election? boris johnson, though,— win a general election? boris johnson, though, is incredibly tarnished,— johnson, though, is incredibly tarnished, rightly wrongly, johnson, though, is incredibly tarnthere rightly wrongly, johnson, though, is incredibly tarnthere righbe wrongly, johnson, though, is incredibly tarn there righ be manyengly, johnson, though, is incredibly tarn there righ be many people and there will be many people watching— watching this show now who say thee— watching this show now who say thee-wee—

watching this show now who say thee-wee-eeupn that there was a media coup against— that there was a media coup against-ene— that there was a media coup against-and that- that there was a media coup against and that there was against him and that there was a emce— against him and that there was a stitch-ene— against him and that there was a stitch-and that— against him and that there was a stitch .and that he _ against him and that there was a stitch and that he was ousted stitch up and that he was ousted by me— stitch up and that he was ousted by his own— stitch up and that he was ousted by his mps,— stitch up and that he was ousted by his own mps, of— stitch up and that he was ousted by his own mps, of which rishi sunak— by his own mps, of which rishi sunak-ene— by his own mps, of which rishi sunak-onelthem.- by his own mps, of which rishi sunak one them. did rishi sunak was one of them. did rishi sunak— sunak was one of them. did rishi sunak-eeeb— sunak was one of them. did rishi sunak-stick-into- sunak was one of them. did rishi sunak-stick-into his. sunak not stick a knife into his beeke— sunak not stick a knife into his back? obey— sunak not stick a knife into his back? okay but— sunak not stick a knife into his back? okay but how does boris yebneen-e—bby- back? okay but how does boris johnson's play with back? okay but how does boris joh|wider play with back? okay but how does boris joh|wider public? play with back? okay but how does boris joh|wider public? replacing back? okay but how does boris jothunakalic? replacing back? okay but how does boris jothunak with’ replacing back? okay but how does boris jothunak with boriseplacing back? okay but how does boris jothunak with boris johnson rishi sunak with boris johnson and bringing— rishi sunak with boris johnson and bringing him back might eebueuy— and bringing him back might eebueuy neb— and bringing him back might actually not be— and bringing him back might actually not be the correct bbg— actually not be the correct bbg-se— actually not be the correct thing _so well,- actually not be the correct thing so well, if thing to do. so well, if braverman— thing to do. so well, if braverman very much braverman is very much on manoeuvres, a manoeuvres, we've been talking a lot manoeuvres, we've been talking a bee-semb— manoeuvres, we've been talking a lot-sevilla. .continue - lot about sevilla. i'll continue to lot about sevilla. i'll continue be balk— lot about sevilla. i'll continue to talk about— lot about sevilla. i'll continue to talk about a— lot about sevilla. i'll continue to talk about a lot of it bee— to talk about a lot of it because coming up to talk about a lot of it- because-coming up with because she's coming up with a lot because she's coming up with a be of— because she's coming up with a bee ebb-bee— lot of really kind of tubthumping right wing lines bbeb— that are appealing to the conservative— that are appealing to the conservative party at the conservative party base at the moment— conservative party base at the nonenb—go- conservative party base at the moment._go into conservative party base at the- moment._go into the moment. i'm going to go into the inbox— moment. i'm going to go into the inbox on— moment. i'm going to go into the inbox on one. — moment. i'm going to go into the inbox on this. stephen says, yes:— inbox on this. stephen says, vee, bring— inbox on this. stephen says, yes, bring back— inbox on this. stephen says, yes, bring back boris. after all:— yes, bring back boris. after all, be all, sunak doesn't seem to be doing—nonb- all, sunak doesn't seem to bei doing—don't deserve doing a lot. they don't deserve bone—bony.- boris johnson, says barry. after ebobbbne— boris johnson, says barry. after stabbing—back,- boris johnson, says barry. after stabbing back, there stabbing him in the back, there were _turncoats. - were a load of turncoats. nnene-e— were a load of turncoats. there'sllot_ were a load of turncoats. there'sllot of- were a load of turncoats. there's lot of this were a load of turncoats. there'sllot of this in there's a lot of this coming in at there's a lot of this coming in an one— there's a lot of this coming in at the moment— there's a lot of this coming in at the moment and i just want to know— at the moment and i just want to know-non — at the moment and i just want to know from yourselves know as well from yourselves nnebnen— know as well from yourselves whether—think- know as well from yourselves whether—think it. know as well from yourselves whether think it is whether or not you think it is bme— whether or not you think it is bne fon— whether or not you think it is bne for one— whether or not you think it is time for the tories. they time for the tories. do they nove— time for the tories. do they nave-bo— time for the tories. do they have -to change - time for the tories. do they have to change leader have time to change leader before— have time to change leader- before—election have time to change leader- bewould_election have time to change leader- bewould .just-election have time to change leader bewould just be election have time to change leader bewould just be stupid?on or would that just be stupid? snobb— or would that just be stupid? should-stick— or would that just be stupid? should stick sunak or would that just be stupid?- should-stick-sunak and should they stick with sunak and let should they stick with sunak and tee—ono— should they stick with sunak and bee—eno bo— should they stick with sunak and let-and to deliver- should they stick with sunak and let and to deliver on let him to try and to deliver on his let him to try and to deliver on be key— let him to try and to deliver on be key pledges?— let him to try and to deliver on his key pledges? and on that none,— his key pledges? and on that none-oboe— his key pledges? and on that note, .that - rishi - his key pledges? and on that note, that rishi sunak his key pledges? and on that note, have1at rishi sunak his key pledges? and on that note,have at rishi sunak his key pledges? and on that note,have a genuineishi sunak his key pledges? and on that note, have a genuine time unak his key pledges? and on that note, have a genuine time to ak does have a genuine time to onene— does have a genuine time to enbne .— does have a genuine time to enbne . bonny— does have a genuine time to shine . today he's addressing the

shine. today he's addressing the council— shine. today he's addressing the connob on— shine. today he's addressing the council of europe— shine. today he's addressing the council of europe .— shine. today he's addressing the council of europe . and council of europe. and enbboeeoey— council of europe. and supposedly what going council of europe. and- supposedly what-going to supposedly what he's going to say supposedly what he's going to ooy-ne— supposedly what he's going to ooy-we need- supposedly what he's going to. say-we need-huge say is that we need to have huge reorrn— say is that we need to have huge reorrn . ae— say is that we need to have huge reorre . ae bo— say is that we need to have huge reforms . as to britain's reforms. as to britain's relationship— reforms. as to britain's relationship with the echr, we need — relationship with the echr, we need to, — relationship with the echr, we need to, in— relationship with the echr, we need to, in order— relationship with the echr, we need to, in order to stop the boobe— need to, in order to stop the boobe be— need to, in order to stop the boats be able— need to, in order to stop the boats be able to— need to, in order to stop the boats be able to decide who comes in and— boats be able to decide who comes in and out- boats be able to decide who comes in and out of this country nrbnonb— comes in and out of this country without foreign— comes in and out of this country without foreign judges in dark in ne— without foreign judges in dark rooms in the middle of the nenb— rooms in the middle of the night, etcetera,— rooms in the middle of the night, etcetera, etcetera, etcetera.— night, etcetera, etcetera, etcetera. saying no, can't etcetera. saying no, you can't deport— etcetera. saying no, you can't deport individual, make no etcetera. saying no, you can't deportaboutndividual, make no etcetera. saying no, you can't deportabout it.vidual, make no etcetera. saying no, you can't deportabout it. ifiual, make no etcetera. saying no, you can't deportabout it. if rishi�*nake no etcetera. saying no, you can't deportabout it. if rishi sunakro bones about it. if rishi sunak nonre— bones about it. if rishi sunak nonbe bo— bones about it. if rishi sunak none to keep— bones about it. if rishi sunak wants to keep job, i think wants to keep his job, i think he wants to keep his job, i think ne-bo— wants to keep his job, i think ne-bo ebb— wants to keep his job, i think he .to stop the- wants to keep his job, i think he to stop the boats. and he has to stop the boats. and ene—nrn- he has to stop the boats. and one—bin bo- he has to stop the boats. and the—him to stopi he has to stop the boats. and. the—him to stop the the only way for him to stop the boobe— the only way for him to stop the boobe re— the only way for him to stop the boats is.make_ the only way for him to stop the boats islmake-that- the only way for him to stop the boats is make that we boats is to make sure that we eon-b— boats is to make sure that we can't-deportation- boats is to make sure that we can't deportation rulings can't have deportation rulings ovennre ob— can't have deportation rulings overrule at-very- can't have deportation rulings overrule at very last minute overrule at the very last minute wron— overrule at the very last minute nbn ene— overrule at the very last minute nbn be prone— overrule at the very last minute with the plane on— overrule at the very last minute with the plane on the tarmac by foreign— with the plane on the tarmac by rorergn rnoeee— with the plane on the tarmac by rorergn judge in— with the plane on the tarmac by foreign judges in foreign eonen— foreign judges in foreign conne-gorngl foreign judges in foreign courts. going to foreign judges in foreign. courts-going to be courts. and i'm going to be barking— courts. and i'm going to be talking about— courts. and i'm going to be talking about this lot in the talking about this a lot in the nenb— talking about this a lot in the next-because- talking about this a lot in the next because sunak next hour, because rishi sunak noe— next hour, because rishi sunak nee—bo- next hour, because rishi sunak nee—to enrne- next hour, because rishi sunaki has—to shine here. has a real chance to shine here. he has a real chance to shine here. be eorrn— has a real chance to shine here. be eorrn eay— has a real chance to shine here. be eorrn eoy bo— has a real chance to shine here. he could say to the— has a real chance to shine here. he could say to the of he could say to the council of e..ope,_ he could say to the council of europe, b— he could say to the council of europe, b you— he could say to the council of europe, if you don't reform rule 39 europe, if you don't reform rule be one— europe, if you don't reform rule 39 one beb— europe, if you don't reform rule 39 and re re— europe, if you don't reform rule 39 and let us decide who we bebon— 39 and let us decide who we bebon ono— 39 and let us decide who we deport and who— 39 and let us decide who we deport and who we don't. okay onen— deport and who we don't. okay enen rye-re— deport and who we don't. okay then we're pulling— deport and who we don't. okay then we're pulling out of it. yon-ve— then we're pulling out of it. yon-ye noo— then we're pulling out of it. you've had your— then we're pulling out of it. you've had your chance and enor-e— you've had your chance and enor-e b.— you've had your chance and enor-e b. b— you've had your chance and that's it. if rishi— you've had your chance and that's it. if rishi sunak plays his that's it. if rishi sunak plays nre corne— that's it. if rishi sunak plays his cards right— that's it. if rishi sunak plays his cards right tonight, i enebeeb— his cards right tonight, i suspect that— his cards right tonight, i suspect that tomorrow's show is going— suspect that tomorrow's show is gobng bo — suspect that tomorrow's show is gobng ro be — suspect that tomorrow's show is going to be entirely dominated by neopre— going to be entirely dominated

by pebble 5aying— going to be entirely dominated by people saying what a blinder nee— by people saying what a blinder ne-e played-— by people saying what a blinder ne-e broyeo. ano— by people saying what a blinder he's played. and this is fantastic— he's played. and this is fantastic .— he's played. and this is fantastic . there will, of fantastic. there will, of course, be the- fantastic. there will, of course, be the brigade say, course, be the brigade who say, boob— course, be the brigade who say, boob-re— course, be the brigade who say, look,-is absolutely- look, this is absolutely abhorrent— look, this is absolutely abhorrent in line look, this is absolutely abhorussia in line look, this is absolutely abhorussia and in line look, this is absolutely abhorussia and belarus,in line with russia and belarus, ebeebero. — with russia and belarus, etcetera. - rishi - with russia and belarus, etcetera. rishi really does etcetera. but rishi really does nove— etcetera. but rishi really does nave-enme- etcetera. but rishi really does have-shine this- have a time to shine this evenne— have a time to shine this evening decides that he evening if he decides that he nonre— evening if he decides that he wantslbe— evening if he decides that he wants.be.bold- evening if he decides that he wants be bold he could wants to be as bold as he could be. wants to be as bold as he could belb-e— wants to be as bold as he could belb-e ub— wants to be as bold as he could belb-e up bo— wants to be as bold as he could be.-it's up to him.- wants to be as bold as he could be. it's up to him. does he be. but it's up to him. does he nonb— be. but it's up to him. does he wont bo— be. but it's up to him. does he wont bo-nre— be. but it's up to him. does he want to his premiership or want to save his premiership or nob— want to save his premiership or nob-bew.— want to save his premiership or nob-ben-b- want to save his premiership or not?-view.-if he- want to save his premiership ori not?-view.-if he does, not? in my view. and if he does, onen— not? in my view. and if he does, onenlnrb— not? in my view. and if he does, then-will have— not? in my view. and if he does, then-will have to— not? in my view. and if he does, then will have to try to make then he will have to try to make onno— then he will have to try to make one be — then he will have to try to make sure that the echr— then he will have to try to make sure that the echr works for us or-or— sure that the echr works for us or-oflbow-- sure that the echr works for us or-oflnow. okay.- or come out of it now. okay. b-e— or come out of it now. okay. b-e-ror— or come out of it now. okay. it's-for patrick's- it's time for patrick's pick of be— it's time for patrick's pick of rne-rnre— it's time for patrick's pick of rne-rnre re— it's time for patrick's pick of the-this is my- it's time for patrick's pick of the this is my chance to the day. this is my chance to rob— the day. this is my chance to born about— the day. this is my chance to born about o— the day. this is my chance to talk about a story— the day. this is my chance to talk about a story that isn't oonrnobng— talk about a story that isn't dominating the— talk about a story that isn't dominating the agenda, dominating the news agenda, but has dominating the news agenda, but be caught— dominating the news agenda, but be eonom-ano- dominating the news agenda, but has caught and today has caught my eye. and today it's has caught my eye. and today b-e-rnot— has caught my eye. and today it's-that really- it's a survey that really nrenbgnre— it's a survey that really highlights difference highlights the difference between— highlights the difference between - and - highlights the difference between and our european between brits and our european cousins. .that's_ between brits and our european cousins. that's right . it's cousins. yes, that's right. it's a cousins. yes, that's right. it's o-rnor— cousins. yes, that's right. it's o-rnor tonne- cousins. yes, that's right. it's a-that found that- cousins. yes, that's right. it's a that found that german a report that found that german eb— a report that found that german eb bonn— a report that found that german men sit down to— a report that found that german men sit down to have a wee a lot more-berr— men sit down to have a wee a lot more-their british- more than their british counterparts.- counterparts. yougov has found bor— counterparts. yougov has found rnorlnnonnrng— counterparts. yougov has found that whopping 62% of german that a whopping 62% of german men-ro— that a whopping 62% of german men-ro-o- that a whopping 62% of german men-ro-o nee- that a whopping 62% of german. men _to -a wee every men sit down to have a wee every erngre— men sit down to have a wee every erngbe bme,— men sit down to have a wee every single time, almost— men sit down to have a wee every single time, almost of the time. and— single time, almost of the time. one orporenby— single time, almost of the time. and apparently british men are far and apparently british men are for—eronb- and apparently british men are for—erono ub- far more likely to stand up at be— far more likely to stand up at rne-a— far more likely to stand up at rne-a ere— far more likely to stand up at the-a mere 24%- far more likely to stand up at the a mere 24% of them the toilet. a mere 24% of them reno— the toilet. a mere 24% of them rent to— the toilet. a mere 24% of them rent to eb— the toilet. a mere 24% of them tend to sit down.— the toilet. a mere 24% of them tend to sit down. i— the toilet. a mere 24% of them tend to sit down. i must admit i eon-r— tend to sit down. i must admit i eon-r nube— tend to sit down. i must admit i don't quite know— tend to sit down. i must admit i don't quite know what to make of

be— don't quite know what to make of be but— don't quite know what to make of be but .— don't quite know what to make of this, but i thought— don't quite know what to make of this, but i thought it was fascinating.— this, but i thought it was fascinating. regardless men of the fascinating. regardless men of be bnbeo— fascinating. regardless men of the united states— fascinating. regardless men of the united states apparently sit down— the united states apparently sit down reee— the united states apparently sit down less the— the united states apparently sit down less the canadians . i down less the canadians. i tnougnt— down less the canadians. i thought they'd— down less the canadians. i thought they'd be higher. i tnougnt— thought they'd be higher. i thought justin— thought they'd be higher. i thought justin trudeau's canadians— thought justin trudeau's canadians would do more sitting down— canadians would do more sitting down nnrngrng.— canadians would do more sitting down, whinging. anyway, there we go. be— down, whinging. anyway, there we go. be many— down, whinging. anyway, there we go. be many or— down, whinging. anyway, there we go. be many or you— down, whinging. anyway, there we go. as many of you know, though, as go. as many of you know, though, oe-yon— go. as many of you know, though, oe-yon know,— as many of you know, on eonernrne— as many of you know, on- something—different something completely different none—be- now, next month i will be donning— now, next month i will be dancing-stage- now, next month i will be dancing stage with now, next month i will be dancing .stage with dream dancing on stage with the dream boye— dancing on stage with the dream boys-themselves- dancing on stage with the dream boys themselves the boys who call themselves the bye— boys who call themselves the bb-e—nore- boys who call themselves the- uk's_male strippers. uk's most famous male strippers. i uk's most famous male strippers. r woe— uk's most famous male strippers. r neonr— uk's most famous male strippers. rwoe neonr ro— uk's most famous male strippers. i was meant to do— uk's most famous male strippers. i was meant to do last year. i was meant to do it last year. it i was meant to do it last year. b own-r— i was meant to do it last year. it didn't happen.— i was meant to do it last year. it didn't happen. but we're borne— it didn't happen. but we're doing b— it didn't happen. but we're doing b now— it didn't happen. but we're doing it now. now i've got some it didn't happen. but we're doingfor�*tow. now i've got some it didn't happen. but we're doingfor�*tow. bytv i've got some it didn't happen. but we're doingfor�*tow. by the 'e got some it didn't happen. but we're doingfor�*tow. by the way,: some it didn't happen. but we're doingfor�*tow. by the way, ladies news for you, by the way, ladies ono— news for you, by the way, ladies eno-beeowee— news for you, by the way, ladies and-because when- and gents, because when we eroneo— and gents, because when we started - show, - and gents, because when we started - show, we - and gents, because when we started show, we were started this show, we were not yetlthe — started this show, we were not yet-the £32,000— started this show, we were not yet the £32,000 mark raise yet at the £32,000 mark raise bewee— yet at the £32,000 mark raise because - doing - yet at the £32,000 mark raise because-doing it- yet at the £32,000 mark raise because doing it for because i am doing it for enorby— because i am doing it for enorby-bn- because i am doing it for charity i'm doing it for charity arnie i'm doing it for nine— charity arnie i'm doing it for mine—health. mine. it is mental health awareness week by way, mine. it is mental health- awareness weekay-way, and awareness week, by the way, and i awareness week, by the way, and r-b-e— awareness week, by the way, and r-b-elreoby— awareness week, by the way, and i it's really important i think it's a really important rnrng. — i think it's a really important rnrng. ion— i think it's a really important thing. an important thing thing. it's an important thing for—i'ml thing. it's an important thing. for—tn for me personally, and i'm sure wor— for me personally, and i'm sure rnor-ernere— for me personally, and i'm sure that-single person- that every single person webbing— that every single person watching programme, watching this programme, berenrng— watching this programme, listening-will- watching this programme,- listening-will-had listening to it, will have had rnerr— listening to it, will have had web—in- listening to it, will have had. rnerr—rn-woy their lives touched in some way by mentor— their lives touched in some way by mental health.— their lives touched in some way by mental health. okay, whether it's by mental health. okay, whether be directly— by mental health. okay, whether we rbreeby or— by mental health. okay, whether it's directly or indirect and any— it's directly or indirect and any mentor— it's directly or indirect and any mental health crisis is a enere— any mental health crisis is a bur— any mental health crisis is a but r— any mental health crisis is a crisis. but i just— any mental health crisis is a crisis. but i just want to draw a crisis. but i just want to draw o bb— crisis. but i just want to draw o bb or— crisis. but i just want to draw a bit of attention— crisis. but i just want to draw a bit of attention to, in my wew— a bit of attention to, in my o bb— a bit of attention to, in my view, a bit of— a bit of attention to, in my view, a bit of a— a bit of attention to, in my view, a bit of a forgotten group in nu— view, a bit of a forgotten group in ob or— view, a bit of a forgotten group in all of this,— view, a bit of a forgotten group in all of this, which is male mentor— in all of this, which is male mental health—

in all of this, which is male mental health because every day 12 mental health because every day we nen— mental health because every day we robe— mental health because every day 12 men take their— mental health because every day 12 men take their own lives , 12 men take their own lives, entry,— 12 men take their own lives, eorby ono— 12 men take their own lives, sadly, and suicide is, believe it sadly, and suicide is, believe b or— sadly, and suicide is, believe b or nob— sadly, and suicide is, believe it or not, the— sadly, and suicide is, believe it or not, the single biggest wber— it or not, the single biggest wber or— it or not, the single biggest killer of men— it or not, the single biggest killer of men under the age of 40r— killer of men under the age of .o, wben— killer of men under the age of .o, wnren re— killer of men under the age of 40, which is staggering, really ,wnen— 40, which is staggering, really ,whe. yon— 40, which is staggering, really , when you think— 40, which is staggering, really , when you think about it. i wor— , when you think about it. i mean, that is— , when you think about it. i mean, that is a— , when you think about it. i mean, that is a pandemic, isn't it? mean, that is a pandemic, isn't be nor— mean, that is a pandemic, isn't be not re— mean, that is a pandemic, isn't be not e on— mean, that is a pandemic, isn't it? that is an epidemic. mean, that is a pandemic, isn't it? that is an epidemic . and i it? that is an epidemic. and i wanted— it? that is an epidemic. and i wanted ro— it? that is an epidemic. and i wanted to try— it? that is an epidemic. and i wanted to try to— it? that is an epidemic. and i wanted to try to raise a bit of money— wanted to try to raise a bit of money ro— wanted to try to raise a bit of money ro ery— wanted to try to raise a bit of money o by ro— wanted to try to raise a bit of money to try to save a few bwee. — money to try to save a few lives. hopefully- money to try to save a few lives. hopefully can do that lives. hopefully we can do that rogerner—now- lives. hopefully we can do that. together_ now passed together and we have now passed the together and we have now passed be 32,000— together and we have now passed the 32,000 mark,— together and we have now passed the 32,000 mark,-to- together and we have now passed the 32,000 mark, to you. the 32,000 mark, thanks to you. wonder— the 32,000 mark, thanks to you. wonder peonre. — the 32,000 mark, thanks to you. wonder people. thank you very neon. — wonder people. thank you very neon. wer— neon. web— giving.com/fundraising, neon. wer— giving.com/fundraising, forward eboen— giving.com/fundraising, forward slash challenge— giving.com/fundraising, forward slash challenge ,— giving.com/fundraising, forward slash challenge , christie said slash challenge, christie said in we— slash challenge, christie said in we beer— slash challenge, christie said in the last half— slash challenge, christie said in the last half an hour, we've nonoeeo— in the last half an hour, we've managed to— in the last half an hour, we've nonogeo ro ger— in the last half an hour, we've managed to get ourselves up above— managed to get ourselves up above ebow— managed to get ourselves up above about 32,000. mark, i'm trying— above about 32,000. mark, i'm eryne-bo— above about 32,000. mark, i'm eryne-so grand.- above about 32,000. mark, i'm trying 50 grand. okay. trying to hit 50 grand. okay. bm— trying to hit 50 grand. okay. r-n eryne— trying to hit 50 grand. okay. r-n rryrng ro— trying to hit 50 grand. okay. i'm trying to hit— trying to hit 50 grand. okay. i'm trying to hit 50 grand. i know— i'm trying to hit 50 grand. i know money's— i'm trying to hit 50 grand. i know money's tight. we're all rotting— know money's tight. we're all talking about— know money's tight. we're all talking about how strapped we are talking about how strapped we ore-onen— talking about how strapped we oreleoeb or— talking about how strapped we are-cash at the— talking about how strapped we are cash at the moment and are for cash at the moment and eweryrnrng. — are for cash at the moment and eweryrnrng. nw— are for cash at the moment and everything. but if— are for cash at the moment and everything. but if you've just got everything. but if you've just go o— everything. but if you've just got o bwer— everything. but if you've just got o five or— everything. but if you've just got a fiver or £2,— everything. but if you've just got a fiver or £2, even , i think got a fiver or £2, even, i think you— got a fiver or £2, even, i think yon-twe— got a fiver or £2, even, i think you .just donate- got a fiver or £2, even, i think. you .just donate _of you can just donate a couple of gun. — you can just donate a couple of gun. -wowro— you can just donate a couple of quid. would appreciate quid. i really would appreciate it. quid. i really would appreciate b-gorng— quid. i really would appreciate b-gorng ro— quid. i really would appreciate b-gorng to be- quid. i really would appreciate it. going to be performing it. i am going to be performing on eroge— it. i am going to be performing on eroge wbn— it. i am going to be performing on stage with dream boys in on stage with the dream boys in bronrey— on stage with the dream boys in bronbey rn— on stage with the dream boys in bromley in kent— on stage with the dream boys in bromley in kent on— on stage with the dream boys in bromley in kent on the 28th of june- — bromley in kent on the 28th of june. wow— bromley in kent on the 28th of june. wow r— bromley in kent on the 28th of june. now i started this journey ebow— june. now i started this journey about o— june. now i started this journey about o year— june. now i started this journey obowr o year ago— june. now i started this journey about a year ago and i don't

mind— about a year ago and i don't mind admitting— about a year ago and i don't mind admitting this live on air r— mind admitting this live on air r b— mind admitting this live on air now. i was 15 stone £8, which is massive, really— now. i was 15 stone £8, which is massive, really .— now. i was 15 stone £8, which is massive, really . arnie and i massive, really. arnie and i newe— massive, really. arnie and i nowe bur— massive, really. arnie and i nowe out o— massive, really. arnie and i have put a bit— massive, really. arnie and i have put a bit of work in for wre— have put a bit of work in for rnre. onoy.— have put a bit of work in for rnre. onoy. .— have put a bit of work in for this. okay. i am— have put a bit of work in for this. okay. i am now officially gown— this. okay. i am now officially down to— this. okay. i am now officially down to b— this. okay. i am now officially down to 13 stone,— this. okay. i am now officially down to 13 stone, which is a decent— down to 13 stone, which is a decent amount— down to 13 stone, which is a decent amount of weight loss and i'm decent amount of weight loss and bn trying— decent amount of weight loss and r-n rryrng ro— decent amount of weight loss and r-n rryrng ro ger— decent amount of weight loss and i'm trying to get myself in decent— i'm trying to get myself in decent shape— i'm trying to get myself in decent shape so i can humiliate nyeeb— decent shape so i can humiliate nyeeb on— decent shape so i can humiliate nyeeb on eroge— decent shape so i can humiliate myself on stage with a bunch of note— myself on stage with a bunch of note-.— myself on stage with a bunch of note-. onoy.- myself on stage with a bunch of male-. okay. but- myself on stage with a bunch of male-. okay. but i- myself on stage with a bunch of male . okay. but i am male strippers. okay. but i am going— male strippers. okay. but i am doing b— male strippers. okay. but i am doing blbe— male strippers. okay. but i am doing itlits core— male strippers. okay. but i am doing it its core for doing it at its core for oborby— doing it at its core for charity-if- doing it at its core for charity. if you've doing it at its core for charity.-if you've a doing it at its core for charity. .if you've a few charity. and if you've got a few gurg— charity. and if you've got a few q..d,_mg.gg- charity. and if you've got a few quid, mental health quid, okay, for a mental health enorby— quid, okay, for a mental health enomy-r— quid, okay, for a mental health charity,-i would- charity, arnie, i would noeeweby— charity, arnie, i would massively appreciate and massively appreciate that. and it's massively appreciate that. and be wer— massively appreciate that. and it's just giving.com/fundraiser going— it's just giving.com/fundraiser gorngrorworb— it's just giving.com/fundraiser going forward slash challenge bobbe— going forward slash challenge patrick christys _ going forward slash challenge patrick christys and look, even if patrick christys and look, even b be— patrick christys and look, even b be wer— patrick christys and look, even b be be e— patrick christys and look, even if it's just a couple of quid, if it's just a couple of quid, b we— if it's just a couple of quid, b we eon— if it's just a couple of quid, if we can save— if it's just a couple of quid, if we can save some lives bgetben— if we can save some lives together,ithink- if we can save some lives together, think it would together, i think it would mean the together, i think it would mean rne—beonbel together, i think it would mean rne—beobre ,| the absolute world to people, wowbonb— the absolute world to people, wowbonb be— the absolute world to people, wouldn't it? but— the absolute world to people, wouldn't it? but there we go. brgnr— wouldn't it? but there we go. nrgnr boob— wouldn't it? but there we go. right look, thank very much, right look, thank you very much, everybody— right look, thank you very much, everybody-already- right look, thank you very much, everybody already donated. everybody who's already donated. i'm everybody who's already donated. bn wer— everybody who's already donated. bn be e— everybody who's already donated. r-n r-wer o geron— everybody who's already donated. i'm just a quick teaser to what bye—wb— i'm just a quick teaser to what r-we—wblrne- i'm just a quick teaser to what i've—uplthe nextj i've got coming up in the next now.— i've got coming up in the next nowr. r— i've got coming up in the next nowr. r orn— i've got coming up in the next nowr. r oe— i've got coming up in the next hour. i am, of course, going to be rotting— hour. i am, of course, going to be talking loads— hour. i am, of course, going to be talking loads more about web— be talking loads more about wen—boy.- be talking loads more about wen—ooy. be- be talking loads more about. rishi—day. he could rishi sunaks big day. he could web,— rishi sunaks big day. he could web, cowb— rishi sunaks big day. he could well, could well— rishi sunaks big day. he could well, could well solve the migrant— well, could well solve the migrant-and- well, could well solve the migrant and stop the migrant crisis and stop the boote— migrant crisis and stop the bone in— migrant crisis and stop the boats in one— migrant crisis and stop the boats in one fell swoop if he plays— boats in one fell swoop if he proyeieoroe— boats in one fell swoop if he plays-cards right- plays his cards right this evening,— plays his cards right thisi evening—why plays his cards right this evening—why o

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yes very good afternoon, everybody. — yes very good afternoon, everybody. it's- yes very good afternoon, everybody. it's patrick christys bere— everybody. it's patrick christys nere on— everybody. it's patrick christys nere on on— everybody. it's patrick christys here on gb news.— everybody. it's patrick christys here on gb news. it'sjust everybody. it's patrick christys here on gb news. it's just gone 5 on.— here on gb news. it's just gone 5 mb ono— here on gb news. it's just gone 5p-m- one bye— here on gb news. it's just gone 5 pm. and i've got— here on gb news. it's just gone 5 pm. and i've got a very busy 5 p.m. and i've got a very busy bnor— 5 p.m. and i've got a very busy bnob nonr— 5 p.m. and i've got a very busy final hour of— 5 p.m. and i've got a very busy final hour of this— 5 pm. and i've got a very busy final hour of this show lined up for you. — final hour of this show lined up for you. so— final hour of this show lined up for you. so here's— final hour of this show lined up for you. so here's what's on the agenda.— for you. so here's what's on the agenda. wen— for you. so here's what's on the agenda. rishi sunak. could be b—boy— agenda. rishi sunak. could be g_g.y.r.rm,_ agenda. rishi sunak. could be b—boylnrn, r— agenda. rishi sunak. could be d—day him, i think. be d—day for him, i think. could be b—boy— d—day for him, i think. could be b—boylnrn— d—day for him, i think. could be d—day him because echr d—day for him because the echr wbrnown — d—day for him because the echr wbrnown lne— d—day for him because the echr ultimatum he going to stick ultimatum is he going to stick it ultimatum is he going to stick b—bwronei ultimatum is he going to sticki b—bwrobe one it to the council of europe and entry— it to the council of europe and reoby-rnor— it to the council of europe and really _that we- it to the council of europe and really _that we can- it to the council of europe and really that we can in really ensure that we can be in erb— really ensure that we can be in ebb control— really ensure that we can be in full control of— really ensure that we can be in full control of who— really ensure that we can be in full control of who we deport? or full control of who we deport? er wru— full control of who we deport? or we be — full control of who we deport? or will he really— full control of who we deport? or will he really make good ebroee— or will he really make good| ernoee—rne strides towards stopping the boote— strides towards stopping the bone roooye— strides towards stopping the boats today? does, i think boats today? if he does, i think nee— boats today? if he does, i think nee-o— boats today? if he does, i think nee-o gooe— boats today? if he does, i think he's-a good chance- boats today? if he does, i think he's a good chance of he's got a good chance of gerbng— he's got a good chance of gerbng boob— he's got a good chance of getting back into number 10 at the getting back into number 10 at rne-ereebon.— getting back into number 10 at the-election. i'll- getting back into number 10 at the election. i'll you getting back into number 10 at thethe election. i'll you getting back into number 10 at thethe buildtion. i'll you getting back into number 10 at thethe build up]. i'll you getting back into number 10 at thethe build up to'll you getting back into number 10 at thethe build up to that you getting back into number 10 at thethe build up to that lateru all the build up to that later on-beobbe- all the build up to that later on. people shouldn't on. now, why people shouldn't beer—wber- on. now, why people shouldn't feel—what suella| feel guilty. that's what suella braverman is coming out and eoyrng. — braverman is coming out and eoyrng. -eeer- braverman is coming out and saying. feel though saying. do you feel as though rnere— saying. do you feel as though were—oe- saying. do you feel as though there—of whitei there is some sense of white gerb— there is some sense of white gwrb or— there is some sense of white gene or we— there is some sense of white guilt at the moment? should rnere— guilt at the moment? should were-bb— guilt at the moment? should there-i'll be— guilt at the moment? should there i'll be having big there be? i'll be having a big webbe— there be? i'll be having a big debate—won't. there be? i'll be having a big. debate _won't want debate on that. you won't want to debate on that. you won't want ro-b.— debate on that. you won't want one ro— debate on that. you won't want to it. to firecrackers to miss it. to firecrackers were.— to miss it. to firecrackers- were—wore there. prince harry. yes, that's rigbb— there. prince harry. yes, that's right—home! right. he's taking the home office— right. he's taking the home office essentially over office to court essentially over wnerner— office to court essentially over wnerner or— office to court essentially over whether or not— office to court essentially over whether or not should be

whether or not he should be oboweo— whether or not he should be oboweolboy— whether or not he should be allowed i pay for- whether or not he should be allowed pay for his own allowed to pay for his own bobee— allowed to pay for his own police protection in some would say,— police protection in some would s.y,.g.g.g,_ police protection in some would gay-gear, rnonb- police protection in some would say, great, thank you very say, hey, great, thank you very neon— say, hey, great, thank you very neon-vowe— say, hey, great, thank you very much, you're offering to say, hey, great, thank you very mucothers you're offering to say, hey, great, thank you very mucothers say,ru're offering to say, hey, great, thank you very mucothers say, well, rffering to say, hey, great, thank you very mucothers say, well, shouldn't pay others say, well, shouldn't rnoee— pay others say, well, shouldn't rnoee bobee— pay others say, well, shouldn't those police officers be solving wor— those police officers be solving crimes that affecting crimes that are affecting onbnory— crimes that are affecting ordinary chat ordinary taxpayers? so big chat on-oe— ordinary taxpayers? so big chat on-oe web. — ordinary taxpayers? so big chat on-oe web. .— ordinary taxpayers? so big chat on as well. i believe we've on that as well. i believe we've got— on that as well. i believe we've got one— on that as well. i believe we've got ore— on that as well. i believe we've got one more for— on that as well. i believe we've got one more for you as well. yesr_ got one more for you as well. vee we— got one more for you as well. vee we no. — got one more for you as well. yes, we do. this— got one more for you as well. yes, we do. this was also controversial. _ yes, we do. this was also controversial. should parents, norneb— controversial. should parents, married couples— controversial. should parents, married couples just stay rogerner— married couples just stay together-the- married couples just stay together the of the together for the sake of the wee— together for the sake of the kids-matter— together for the sake of the kids matter what? that's what kids no matter what? that's what one—obbeore- one conservative mp appears to be-.— one conservative mp appears to be-ilot— one conservative mp appears to be-lrorlbeobre- one conservative mp appears to be-..lot.people arei be saying. a lot of people are eoyrng— be saying. a lot of people are eoyrng-ooeenb- be saying. a lot of people are saying doesn't really saying that doesn't really stack up saying that doesn't really stack wn-nobern— saying that doesn't really stack up-modern times. - saying that doesn't really stack up modern times. gb views up in in modern times. gb views or ebwbwsbw— up in in modern times. gb views or gbnews.uk. patrick christys. srebnonre— or gbnews.uk. patrick christys. sregnonre ronyr — or gbnews.uk. patrick christys. stephanie takyi .— or gbnews.uk. patrick christys. stephanie takyi . yes controversy stephanie takyi. yes controversy and debate— stephanie takyi. yes controversy and debates galore coming your way— and debates galore coming your way for— and debates galore coming your way for we— and debates galore coming your way for the next— and debates galore coming your way for the next hour. gb views at way for the next hour. gb views g on— way for the next hour. gb views g on newe— way for the next hour. gb views at gb news. .uk— way for the next hour. gb views at gb news. .uk is— way for the next hour. gb views at gb news. .uk is the email rnbox. — at gb news. .uk is the email rnbox. bb— at gb news. .uk is the email rnbox. bb ger— at gb news. .uk is the email inbox. i'll get some of your wewe— inbox. i'll get some of your views on our very, very shortly. bur— views on our very, very shortly. but now— views on our very, very shortly. but b-e— views on our very, very shortly. but now it's your— views on our very, very shortly. but now it's your headlines with boby— but now it's your headlines with boby .— but now it's your headlines with polly . patrick. _ but now it's your headlines with polly . patrick. “new but now it's your headlines with polly . patrick. g: polly. patrick. thank you. good evening. the top story today, three men who supplied fake passports to criminals have been

jailed . anthony beard, jailed. anthony beard, christopher btec and alan thompson helped murderers and drug dealers evade justice. beard, who paid vulnerable people for their expired documents, was sentenced to six years and eight months. his accomplices will serve a combined term of 11 years. the national crime agency's deputy director , craig turner, says the director, craig turner, says the falsified passport served as a golden ticket for organised crime . these organisations were crime. these organisations were involved in drug trafficking , involved in drug trafficking, kidnap and money laundering on an international scale. a fog passport allowed— an international scale. a fog passport allowed those- a" a fog passport allowed those organised ennrnor— passport allowed those organised criminal networks— passport allowed those organised criminal networks in order to bower— criminal networks in order to travel abroad— criminal networks in order to travel abroad and in order to oony— travel abroad and in order to carry our— travel abroad and in order to carry out their— travel abroad and in order to carry out their business, but neo— carry out their business, but also allowed— carry out their business, but also allowed them to obviously evene— also allowed them to obviously ewooe eobbwe— also allowed them to obviously evade captive by— also allowed them to obviously evade captive by obviously law enforcement. _ evade captive by obviously law enforcement. that— evade captive by obviously law enforcement. that obviously sought to arrest them . essex sought to arrest them. essex police is investigating- d essex police is investigating an obegobon— police is investigating an allegation of— police is investigating an allegation of serious sexual oeeowb— allegation of serious sexual assault against— allegation of serious sexual assault against the solihull mp wben— assault against the solihull mp rwbon nnrgnr.— assault against the solihull mp julian knight. it— assault against the solihull mp julian knight. it follows a referrer— julian knight. it follows a referrer by— julian knight. it follows a referral by scotland yard and

aber— referral by scotland yard and comes after the _ referral by scotland yard and comes after the metropolitan bobee— comes after the metropolitan police dropped _ comes after the metropolitan police dropped its investigation into police dropped its investigation no n— police dropped its investigation no n born.— police dropped its investigation into a claim. more than a month ago.— into a claim. more than a month ago. mr— into a claim. more than a month ago. mr wnrgnr— into a claim. more than a month ago. mr nnrgnr ,— into a claim. more than a month ago. mr knight, who's been erroneo— ago. mr knight, who's been ernrneo oe— ago. mr knight, who's been stripped of the— ago. mr knight, who's been stripped of the conservative wnb— stripped of the conservative wbipr noe— stripped of the conservative whip, has denied what he beeenbeb— whip, has denied what he described as— whip, has denied what he described as a— whip, has denied what he described as a false and malicious— described as a false and malicious accusation , an he malicious accusation, an he ooeen-r— malicious accusation, an he ooeenb bron— malicious accusation, an he doesn't plan to— malicious accusation, an he doesn't plan to run at the next ereebon— doesn't plan to run at the next ebeebon .— doesn't plan to run at the next election . now,— doesn't plan to run at the next election . now, two members of an election. now, two members of an orgonreeo— election. now, two members of an orgonreeo owne— election. now, two members of an organised crime group who enwggreo— organised crime group who enwggreo err— organised crime group who smuggled 41 migrants into the uk newe— smuggled 41 migrants into the uk nowe been— smuggled 41 migrants into the uk have been jailed.— smuggled 41 migrants into the uk have been jailed. mohammed awad was have been jailed. mohammed awad eenreneeo— have been jailed. mohammed awad was sentenced today to over two one— was sentenced today to over two one o— was sentenced today to over two one o nob— was sentenced today to over two and a half years— was sentenced today to over two and a half years at— was sentenced today to over two and a half years at a belfast eorrn— and a half years at a belfast eown. bre— and a half years at a belfast court. his partner, ahmed omar, jailed— court. his partner, ahmed omar, renew for— court. his partner, ahmed omar, was jailed for two— court. his partner, ahmed omar, was jailed for two years. back in weren— was jailed for two years. back in boron on— was jailed for two years. back in march, an investigation by the in march, an investigation by we bone— in march, an investigation by the home office— in march, an investigation by the home office found both men energet— the home office found both men charged migrants— the home office found both men charged migrants £5,000 per journey-— charged migrants £5,000 per journey born— charged migrants £5,000 per journey. both pleaded guilty to oeerebng— journey. both pleaded guilty to assisting unlawful immigration and assisting unlawful immigration one we— assisting unlawful immigration and the prime— assisting unlawful immigration and the prime minister will tell wowe— and the prime minister will tell world leaders— and the prime minister will tell world leaders the _ and the prime minister will tell world leaders the international eyeren — world leaders the international eyeren eor— world leaders the international system for policing human trafficking— system for policing human trafficking isn't working . rishi trafficking isn't working. rishi swnob— trafficking isn't working. rishi swnob re— trafficking isn't working. rishi swnob e in— trafficking isn't working. rishi sunak is in iceland today, where nee— sunak is in iceland today, where ne-e going— sunak is in iceland today, where ne-e gorng ro— sunak is in iceland today, where ne-e gorng ro be— sunak is in iceland today, where he's going to be addressing the corner— he's going to be addressing the eowneb oe— he's going to be addressing the council of europe,— he's going to be addressing the council of europe, and he's due to eay— council of europe, and he's due to eoy ,— council of europe, and he's due to eoy , rne— council of europe, and he's due to say , the world's— council of europe, and he's due to say , the world's most to say, the world's most vulnerable _ to say, the world's most vulnerable people are paying the oboe— vulnerable people are paying the once for— vulnerable people are paying the price for unlawful— vulnerable people are paying the price for unlawful migration.

rnor-e— price for unlawful migration. rnor-e oe— price for unlawful migration. that's as the _ price for unlawful migration. that's as the government tries to that's as the government tries ro rnbrenenr— that's as the government tries to implement its— that's as the government tries to implement its own illegal nrgrobon— to implement its own illegal migration bill,— to implement its own illegal migration bill, which is ewrrenby— migration bill, which is currently going through the bore— currently going through the bowee oe— currently going through the house of lords.— currently going through the house of lords. the new law aims to bone— house of lords. the new law aims to tackle small— house of lords. the new law aims to tackle small boat— house of lords. the new law aims to tackle small boat crossings , to tackle small boat crossings, eenrbng— to tackle small boat crossings, sending-seekers- to tackle small boat crossings, sending seekers either sending asylum seekers either none— sending asylum seekers either none or— sending asylum seekers either none or to— sending asylum seekers either none or to o— sending asylum seekers either home or to a third country such as home or to a third country such oe bwonoo— home or to a third country such oe bwonoo .— home or to a third country such as rwanda . the— home or to a third country such as rwanda . the environment as rwanda. the environment secretory— as rwanda. the environment seererory noe— as rwanda. the environment secretary has stressed the rnbononee— secretary has stressed the importance of— secretary has stressed the importance of an affordable, sustainable— importance of an affordable, sustainable and— importance of an affordable, sustainable and resilient food supply— sustainable and resilient food ewggry enorn— sustainable and resilient food ewggry enorn or— sustainable and resilient food supply chain at the annual farm to fork— supply chain at the annual farm to fork summit— supply chain at the annual farm to fork summit in— supply chain at the annual farm to fork summit in downing sneer.— to fork summit in downing sweet. rne— to fork summit in downing street. the government is pronrerng— street. the government is gronrerng o— street. the government is promising a fairer price for rrnere— promising a fairer price for farmers produce and has pledged to get— farmers produce and has pledged to get ore— farmers produce and has pledged ro ger oe— farmers produce and has pledged to get more of their products on ewpernorber— to get more of their products on supermarket shelves. the latest bgwree— supermarket shelves. the latest bgwree ebow— supermarket shelves. the latest figures show meat, yoghurt and wegerobree— figures show meat, yoghurt and vegetables are— figures show meat, yoghurt and vegetables are just some of the bene— vegetables are just some of the bene wor— vegetables are just some of the items that have— vegetables are just some of the items that have doubled in price eonboreo— items that have doubled in price compared to— items that have doubled in price compared to o— items that have doubled in price compared to a year— items that have doubled in price compared to a year ago, amid nrgn— compared to a year ago, amid high inflation.— compared to a year ago, amid high inflation. jerry's coffey eaye— high inflation. jerry's coffey eoye rne — high inflation. jerry's coffey says the package of measures wru— says the package of measures wrb booer— says the package of measures will boost the— says the package of measures will boost the food supply chain and grow— will boost the food supply chain and grow we— will boost the food supply chain and grow the economy . and grow the economy. i'm conscious that— and grow the economy. i'm conscious that our- and grow the economy. i'm conscious that our supermarkets get involved in a variety of ways on how they help consumers. i'll leave that to the select committee, but what is critical is coming here today getting the food supply chain from the farm. indeed the see right through to

the fork and about how we can continue to work together to have that security of food production, but also making sure we resilient one and an we have a resilient one and an affordable food production as well. well, affordable food production as well . well, in years away from well. well, in years away from bone,— well. well, in years away from home, russia's— well. well, in years away from home, russia's and— well, in years away from home, russia's and ukraine's breeroenr— home, russia's and ukraine's president ants— home, russia's and ukraine's president ants have both agreed to meet— president ants have both agreed to meet african— president ants have both agreed to meet african leaders to rbeewee— to meet african leaders to rbeewee o— to meet african leaders to discuss a peace- to meet african leaders to discuss a peace plan to end the rn— discuss a peace plan to end the war in ukraine.— discuss a peace plan to end the war in ukraine. a— discuss a peace plan to end the war in ukraine. a spokesperson for we— war in ukraine. a spokesperson for we sown— war in ukraine. a spokesperson for the south african president's- for the south african president's office has said both bebn— president's office has said both bwbn ono— president's office has said both putin and zelenskyy have agreed to noer— putin and zelenskyy have agreed to noer rne— putin and zelenskyy have agreed to host the african _ putin and zelenskyy have agreed to host the african leader's pence— to host the african leader's peace mission— to host the african leader's peace mission in their reebeebwe— peace mission in their respective capitals. moscow and byw— respective capitals. moscow and byw re— respective capitals. moscow and wyw re being— respective capitals. moscow and kyiv is being backed by african rendere— kyiv is being backed by african reooere oe— kyiv is being backed by african leaders of senegal , uganda, leaders of senegal, uganda, egypt,— leaders of senegal, uganda, bgybr, ene— leaders of senegal, uganda, egypt, the republic of congo and zombie— egypt, the republic of congo and zonbro .— egypt, the republic of congo and zambia . president— egypt, the republic of congo and zambia . president zelenskyy has zambia. president zelenskyy has prewoweby— zambia. president zelenskyy has brewowery enro— zambia. president zelenskyy has previously said that all russian boobe— previously said that all russian boobe nwer— previously said that all russian troops must leave— previously said that all russian troops must leave his country for ony— troops must leave his country for any peace— troops must leave his country for any peace deal to take place . rne— for any peace deal to take place . rne nenb— for any peace deal to take place . be been or— for any peace deal to take place . the head of the— for any peace deal to take place . the head of the royal college of . the head of the royal college or wererng— . the head of the royal college or wererng re— . the head of the royal college of nursing is urging union nernbere— of nursing is urging union rnernbere ro— of nursing is urging union members to vote in favour of runner— members to vote in favour of further walkouts— members to vote in favour of further walkouts to strengthen rneb— further walkouts to strengthen rnerr nono— further walkouts to strengthen their hand in— further walkouts to strengthen their hand in negotiations with their hand in negotiations with the government— their hand in negotiations with the government .— their hand in negotiations with the government . addressing the

the government. addressing the onnwor— the government. addressing the annual conference, pat cullen enro— annual conference, pat cullen eno rne— annual conference, pat cullen said the government will be forced— said the government will be forced to— said the government will be forced to improve their offer if the forced to improve their offer if we wrnon— forced to improve their offer if the union has— forced to improve their offer if the union has another six month ernbe— the union has another six month strike mandate— the union has another six month strike mandate at— the union has another six month strike mandate at a postal bobor— strike mandate at a postal bobor on— strike mandate at a postal ballot on new— strike mandate at a postal ballot on new industrial action wru— ballot on new industrial action wrb onen— ballot on new industrial action will open later— ballot on new industrial action will open later next week after the will open later next week after be ten — will open later next week after the rcn turned— will open later next week after the rcn turned down a 5% pay nee— the rcn turned down a 5% pay rne— the rcn turned down a 5% pay rnre year— the rcn turned down a 5% pay rise this year and— the rcn turned down a 5% pay rise this year and a one off payment— rise this year and a one off goynenr eor— rise this year and a one off payment for last- rise this year and a one off payment for last year. pat cuben— payment for last year. pat cullen also— payment for last year. pat cullen also demanded the prime wrnrerer— cullen also demanded the prime minister comes— cullen also demanded the prime minister comes to— cullen also demanded the prime minister comes to the negotiating- minister comes to the negotiating table absolutely nobody— negotiating table absolutely nobody wants _ negotiating table absolutely nobody wants to see twice as many— nobody wants to see twice as many nurses take— nobody wants to see twice as many nurses take strike action or twice— many nurses take strike action or twice oe— many nurses take strike action or twice oe nony— many nurses take strike action or twice as many hospitals effected— or twice as many hospitals effected by— or twice as many hospitals affected by a— or twice as many hospitals affected by a strike. 37” affected by a strike. prime minister.— affected by a strike. prime minister, you did the right thing to open negotiations with me in february before for the 75th birthday of the nhs this july. let us get the job finished . july. let us get the job finished. pat july. let us get the job finished . pat cullen now greggs finished. pat cullen now greggs bakery— finished. pat cullen now greggs bakery noe— finished. pat cullen now greggs bakery has revealed— �*" " : pat cullen now greggs bakery has revealed its sales newe— bakery has revealed its sales nowe ewrgeb— bakery has revealed its sales nowe ewrgeo by— bakery has revealed its sales have surged by nearly a fifth rne— have surged by nearly a fifth over the last— have surged by nearly a fifth over the last year. the bakery

onen— over the last year. the bakery enorn eaye— over the last year. the bakery chain says its— over the last year. the bakery chain says its food is attractive— chain says its food is attractive to - chain says its food is attractive to customers looking for o— attractive to customers looking for o oneoner— attractive to customers looking for a cheaper alternative amid the for a cheaper alternative amid rne nerng— for a cheaper alternative amid the rising cost— for a cheaper alternative amid the rising cost of— for a cheaper alternative amid the rising cost of living. sales grew— the rising cost of living. sales grew by— the rising cost of living. sales grew by rew— the rising cost of living. sales grew by 17% over— the rising cost of living. sales grew by 17% over the last 12 nonrne. — grew by 17% over the last 12 months. greggs— grew by 17% over the last 12 months. greggs say part of their success is because— months. greggs say part of their success is because their stores eroyrng— success is because their stores eroyrng open— success is because their stores are staying open for longer, eebrng— are staying open for longer, eebrng o— are staying open for longer, selling a wider— are staying open for longer, selling a wider variety of hot eoooe. — selling a wider variety of hot eoooe. rn— selling a wider variety of hot foods. in the— selling a wider variety of hot foods. in the evening . us gb foods. in the evening. us gb wewe— foods. in the evening. us gb news mornings— foods. in the evening. us gb news mornings as it happens. now boon— news mornings as it happens. now been to— news mornings as it happens. now been to .— back to. patrick i welcome - back to. patrickl i welcome back. back to. patrick welcome back. now i'm doing this differently at this a little bit differently at the the hours. i'm the tops of the hours. now i'm kind setting stall out kind of setting my stall out in a of different topics kind of setting my stall out in a just of different topics kind of setting my stall out in a just seeing arent topics kind of setting my stall out in a just seeing whattopics kind of setting my stall out in a just seeing whattopi(make of and just seeing what you make of it get into it whilst we get stuck into a debate. rishi has to debate. so rishi sunak has to grow a pair and sell the council of europe that either of europe that they either reform we can deport reform the echr so we can deport illegal migrants or they can shove and will pull of it shove it and will pull out of it his premiership at the next election depends election quite possibly depends on said that he'll stop on it, he said that he'll stop the boats and whilst foreign

judges can still tell us who we can he's can and cannot deport, he's never going able to do never going to be able to do that. we have taken quite enough from them. he's heading to iceland to say iceland where he's due to say this . okay, we need to do more this. okay, we need to do more to cooperate across borders and across to end across jurisdictions to end illegal migration and stop the boats. right. fine. now he wants to reform rule 39. he wants to make our illegal migration bill compatible with the echr . but in compatible with the echr. but in my view, if he doesn't get an immediate response, he has to grow a spine and say, you've had your chance, we're off. it's pretty simple . all we have tried pretty simple. all we have tried everything and are trying everything and are trying everything comply bannau with everything to comply bannau with these international rulings. but these international rulings. but the fact is those laws aren't working for us, are they? they're actually damaging britain by making us a soft target for illegal migration that's costing the taxpayer tens of billions of pounds, poses massive security threats and at times literally costs lives. this is rishi sunak us to stand up for britain , to be a leader, up for britain, to be a leader, to say, i'm going to act in my

own nation's best interests and i will not be ashamed to do that. i don't think he has a choice. priti patel is already saying she thinks boris would win the next election if he was in suella braverman has in charge. suella braverman has just her pitch to become just given her pitch to become the the answer the next tory leader. the answer is staring him right in the face. s do what's best for britain or don't expect britain to support you . yeah, those are to support you. yeah, those are my views, of course. please let me know what you think. vaiews@gbnews.uk but joining me now on this big discussion is the lawyer and academic is andrew tettenborn . andrew, thank andrew tettenborn. andrew, thank you very much. look, i've made myself pretty there. i do myself pretty clear there. i do feel though she's got big feel as though she's got a big opportunity to say, opportunity now to go and say, look, a wonderful idea. look, it was a wonderful idea. the echr , we loved it. we the echr, we loved it. we thought it was fantastic thought it was a fantastic thing. working thing. but it's not working for britain have britain anymore. times have changed need nimble changed and we need to be nimble on and do what's best on our feet and do what's best for britain. views? i think for britain. your views? i think that's right . well,— for britain. your views? i think that's right . well, my- " /r:::r. " , , i think that's right . well, my views are that's right. well, my views are web— that's right. well, my views are web known— that's right. well, my views are well known in— that's right. well, my views are well known in public i'm well known in public that i'm oetwoby— well known in public that i'm oerwoby gube— well known in public that i'm actually quite in— well known in public that i'm actually quite in favour of gerbng—

actually quite in favour of gerbng ow— actually quite in favour of getting out of— actually quite in favour of getting out of the european convenbon— getting out of the european convention on— getting out of the european convention on human rights completely— convention on human rights completely, but— convention on human rights completely, but but that's reoby— completely, but but that's really beside— completely, but but that's really beside the point. the entry— really beside the point. the reoby owewr— really beside the point. the really awful thing is rule 39, rnebe— really awful thing is rule 39, were rne— really awful thing is rule 39, that's the rule— really awful thing is rule 39, that's the rule that says that before — that's the rule that says that even before it's— that's the rule that says that even before it's clear that we've broken _ even before it's clear that we've broken the convention, the coun— we've broken the convention, the corn noe— we've broken the convention, the corn nee rne— we've broken the convention, the court has the right— we've broken the convention, the court has the right to say stop . wn— court has the right to say stop . brn ono— court has the right to say stop . brn one rner— court has the right to say stop . um, and just everybody stay wbere— . um, and just everybody stay wnere rney— . um, and just everybody stay where they are— . um, and just everybody stay where they are until we've eorbeo— where they are until we've eoneo b— where they are until we've sorted it out— where they are until we've sorted it out . _ where they are until we've sorted it out . mit�*bt�* where they are until we've sorted it out . brim where they are until we've sorted it out . brzrn sorted it out. now that i see as actually undesirable . well, one actually undesirable. well, one problem is that giving orders to governments when you don't know what the rights of the parties are , should very much be the job are, should very much be the job of national courts and not of international courts . it's much international courts. it's much more to the point, if you actually look at the convention, it doesn't say that where the court makes a recommendation, because technically it's a recommendation that everybody stands still. there's nothing in

the convention that says we have to obey those, recommend nations. what happened was that about just under 20 years ago , about just under 20 years ago, the judges of the european court of human rights in a in an exercise in bootstrapping , exercise in bootstrapping, produced a judgement that said, okay, there's nothing actually saying that you have to obey these recommendations , but these recommendations, but actually it's implicit in the convention that you do. so it sort of took them, took this obugafion sort of took them, took this obligation rather like a rabbit out of a lawyer's hat . and out of a lawyer's hat. and that's the only reason it's there at all. yeah and this is why it's so important , really, i why it's so important, really, i think, and possibly deserves a little bit more drama than the sunakin little bit more drama than the sunak in iceland thing. i mean, i think it's really d—day- " g imean, i think it's really d—day for him— i think it's really d—day for him, rent— i think it's really d—day for him, isn't it?— i think it's really d—day for him, isn't it? because if he wante— him, isn't it? because if he wonre ro— him, isn't it? because if he wants to stop— him, isn't it? because if he wants to stop the boats and win the wants to stop the boats and win we next— wants to stop the boats and win the next election,— wants to stop the boats and win the next election, this is the ong— the next election, this is the onby wny— the next election, this is the onby way be — the next election, this is the only way he can— the next election, this is the only way he can provide a genuine— only way he can provide a genuine deterrent to genuine serious deterrent to beobre— genuine serious deterrent to geogre eonrng— genuine serious deterrent to people coming across the cnonneb— channel, which is to basically say— channel, which is to basically eoy-ebner—

channel, which is to basically say-either deport- channel, which is to basically say either deport you or say we can either deport you or end— say we can either deport you or eeno-ro— say we can either deport you or send .to rwanda _ send you to rwanda for groeeeerng— send you to rwanda for processing can't send you to rwanda for- processing-can't really processing, which can't really happen— processing, which can't really happen-be— processing, which can't really happen-be gere- processing, which can't really happen he gets some happen unless he gets some serious change— happen unless he gets some serious change from the echr. ano— serious change from the echr. one were— serious change from the echr. ann rnere re— serious change from the echr. and there is an— serious change from the echr. and there is an argument, is were— and there is an argument, is rnerelnob— and there is an argument, is there-not, be— and there is an argument, is there not, be said, that there to not, be said, that wewe-wnb- there to not, be said, that we've _with rulings we've complied with echr rulings is we've complied with echr rulings re-nore— we've complied with echr rulings re-nore rnon— we've complied with echr rulings is-more than-other- is a lot more than many otherj members—bit. is a lot more than many other- members._bit. we members. we've done our bit. we are members. we've done our bit. we beeperorery— members. we've done our bit. we are desperately tying ourselves members. we've done our bit. we areknotserately tying ourselves members. we've done our bit. we areknots inttely tying ourselves members. we've done our bit. we areknots in the tying ourselves members. we've done our bit. we areknots in the houseourselves members. we've done our bit. we areknots in the house of'selves members. we've done our bit. we areknots in the house of commons in knots in the house of commons at in knots in the house of commons g rne— in knots in the house of commons g be rnornenr— in knots in the house of commons at the moment country to at the moment as a country to try-worn— at the moment as a country to trylwork wbn— at the moment as a country to try .work with the - at the moment as a country to try work with the echr. but try to work with the echr. but if yon-re— try to work with the echr. but b yow-re nor— try to work with the echr. but if you're not going to work with us, if you're not going to work with rnen— if you're not going to work with rnen wee— if you're not going to work with us, then we're off— if you're not going to work with us, then we're off . us, then we're off. i think wet-e— us, then we're off. i think that's right . you don't likely that's right. you don't likely say we want out of the echr i personally would get out and there's no secret of that. as i wrote in the daily mail last yeah wrote in the daily mail last year. but i think what rishi sunak should say is we are trying to keep within the echr . trying to keep within the echr. we're trying to keep up the migrants bill within the substantive provisions of the echr. but if you guys start playing fast and loose and issuing rule 39 orders saying, well, we don't know who's right or wrong yet, but just everybody

, a freeze. i think rishi sunak noe— , a freeze. i think rishi sunak be every— , a freeze. i think rishi sunak has every moral— i think rishi sunak has every moral right and every bobbeor— has every moral right and every bobbeor ngnr— has every moral right and every political right to _ has every moral right and every political right to say to the connot— political right to say to the cowneb oe— political right to say to the council of europe and to the corre— council of europe and to the corn, go— council of europe and to the cone, go ben— council of europe and to the court, go fish and i'm glad you enro— court, go fish and i'm glad you end been — court, go fish and i'm glad you end been by— court, go fish and i'm glad you said that. my heart- court, go fish and i'm glad you said that. the " said that. my heart was in my mouth for a second there. i must be honest with you, andrew, i'm very that you used the word very glad that you used the word fish i think fish there. so i think it's worth i think it's of course, you're a classy gent, but i think it's worthwhile just to explain to people, you know, why this is important. okay? why this is so important. okay? why rishi sunak really is at a crossroads here. i mean , this is crossroads here. i mean, this is i think we're looking at where he's at in the polls at the moment. we're seeing suella braverman making some serious noises. i mean, it was basically a for after a leadership pitch for after sunak next election a leadership pitch for after sunewe next election a leadership pitch for after sunewe just next election a leadership pitch for after sunewe just heard ext election a leadership pitch for after sunewe just heard there, :tion a leadership pitch for after sunewe just heard there, priti that we just heard there, priti patel's obviously still talking about as a lot of about boris johnson as a lot of people are. he could turn things on head here. for a of on his head here. for a lot of people. if he gets his people. i think if he gets his act in gear, should he go act in gear, what should he go there say them? i think there and say to them? i think he has go and there and say to them? i think he has-go and say,- there and say to them? i think he has-go and say, well,- e�*t: , i think he has go and say, well, it's he has to go and say, well, it's obwowery— he has to go and say, well, it's

obviously vital— he has to go and say, well, it's obviously vital for— he has to go and say, well, it's obviously vital for any country to be— obviously vital for any country to be ebre— obviously vital for any country to be be ro— obviously vital for any country to be able to control immigration- to be able to control immigration when you are bewoby— immigration when you are actually making it rather orbrewb— actually making it rather difficult for— actually making it rather difficult for us. but we signed up to— difficult for us. but we signed up to rne— difficult for us. but we signed up to the convention. so for the moment— up to the convention. so for the moment rner— up to the convention. so for the moment that we— up to the convention. so for the moment that we will stay in it. but— moment that we will stay in it. but if— moment that we will stay in it. but if rne— moment that we will stay in it. but if this goes— moment that we will stay in it. but if this goes any further or if but if this goes any further or b we— but if this goes any further or b we newe— but if this goes any further or if we have any— but if this goes any further or if we have any further rule 39 orereo— if we have any further rule 39 orders, we can't— if we have any further rule 39 orders, we can't not rule out gerbng— orders, we can't not rule out getting our— orders, we can't not rule out getting our of— orders, we can't not rule out getting out of the convention rne— getting out of the convention rnre rent— getting out of the convention rnre renb o— getting out of the convention this isn't a breach of the law . this isn't a breach of the law. all this isn't a breach of the law. ab yon— this isn't a breach of the law. ab yow newe— this isn't a breach of the law. all you have to— this isn't a breach of the law. all you have to do to get out of ne— all you have to do to get out of the convention _ all you have to do to get out of the convention is— all you have to do to get out of the convention is give six nonrne— the convention is give six months notice— the convention is give six months notice .- the convention is give six months notice . um, and, and i months notice. um, and, and i rnrnb— months notice. um, and, and i rnrnb we— months notice. um, and, and i rnrnb we eon— months notice. um, and, and i think we can also— months notice. um, and, and i think we can also say this convention— think we can also say this convention is— think we can also say this convention is very different bon— convention is very different from rne— convention is very different from the convention we signed in rebo- — from the convention we signed in rebo- onoye— from the convention we signed in robe. onoye rne— from the convention we signed in 1950. okay? the wording is the , bur— 1950. okay? the wording is the same , but the— 1950. okay? the wording is the same , but the working is now same, but the working is now congrerery— same, but the working is now completely different. i could bore— completely different. i could bore your— completely different. i could bore your listeners for at least nob— bore your listeners for at least nob on— bore your listeners for at least nob on nonr— bore your listeners for at least half an hour with— bore your listeners for at least half an hour with that, but i wont — half an hour with that, but i wont be.— half an hour with that, but i won't. no, but— half an hour with that, but i won't. no, but the- half an hour with that, but i won't. \rr:::r : won't. no, but the world is completely different as well. and this is what a lot of people eay— and this is what a lot of people eoy. bey— and this is what a lot of people eoy. bey, rook,— and this is what a lot of people eoy. bey, rook, b— and this is what a lot of people say. hey, look, it was set up by cnwrenrb— say. hey, look, it was set up by churchill and— say. hey, look, it was set up by churchill and _this. - say. hey, look, it was set up by churchill and this. and churchill and all of this. and rne— churchill and all of this. and rne-eenowe- churchill and all of this. and the serious countries

the only two serious countries you— the only two serious countries yon-argue— the only two serious countries yon-argue orere-r- the only two serious countries you argue aren't really you could argue aren't really a part— you could argue aren't really a bore-b— you could argue aren't really a ponlb browne— you could argue aren't really a part it around euro, euro part of it around the euro, euro ernbere,— part of it around the euro, euro ebnere, o— part of it around the euro, euro sphere, a belarus— part of it around the euro, euro sphere, a belarus and russia. ano— sphere, a belarus and russia. and we— sphere, a belarus and russia. and we eon-r— sphere, a belarus and russia. and we don't want to be like men,— and we don't want to be like wen-ano- and we don't want to be like them-and .- and we don't want to be like them,-and i can- them, do we? and i can understand— them, do we? and i can understand that. and understand all of that. and rnoee— understand all of that. and rnoee eon— understand all of that. and those can be— understand all of that. and those can be compelling orgwnente— those can be compelling arguments. i— those can be compelling arguments. i can give you a straightforward _ straightforward answer to those pebble— straightforward answer to those people-interrupt- straightforward answer to those people interrupt you, people if i can interrupt you, nbeoee— people if i can interrupt you, please compare— people if i can interrupt you, please compare two countries, azerboion— please compare two countries, azerboion ,— please compare two countries, azerbaijan , iran,— please compare two countries, azerbaijan , iran, a signed up azerbaijan, iran, a signed up ebe— azerbaijan, iran, a signed up be or— azerbaijan, iran, a signed up member of the— azerbaijan, iran, a signed up member of the european convention— member of the european convention on- member of the european convention on human rights, cannon— convention on human rights, conooo ,— convention on human rights, conooo , nor— convention on human rights, canada , not a— convention on human rights, canada , not a not a member of canada, not a not a member of any— canada, not a not a member of any international— canada, not a not a member of any international human rights bony. — any international human rights body. whatever.— any international human rights body. �*fw�* “j briny body. whatever. ditto new zealand . um, ask your readers, zealand. um, ask your readers, do a poll . how many of them do a poll. how many of them would seriously prefer to live in azerbaijan to canada? mm no , in azerbaijan to canada? mm no, exactly. but again, that point is exactly. but again, that point e were,— exactly. but again, that point is there, isn't— exactly. but again, that point is there, isn't it?— rixarzgcy but again, that point is there, isn't it? which is the wobb— is there, isn't it? which is the worm noe— is there, isn't it? which is the world has changed. the situation has world has changed. the situation be enongeo— world has changed. the situation has changed and— world has changed. the situation has changed and demography has obongeb— has changed and demography has enongeo. ano— has changed and demography has enongeo. and if— has changed and demography has changed. and if indeed we are expeebng— changed. and if indeed we are expecting there— changed. and if indeed we are expecting there to be around 800 nbbon— expecting there to be around 800 nrrbon pebble— expecting there to be around 800 million people displaced by around— million people displaced by around 2050,— million people displaced by around 2050, say , and if we know around 2050, say, and if we know rner— around 2050, say, and if we know not o— around 2050, say, and if we know not o ror— around 2050, say, and if we know not e rot or— around 2050, say, and if we know that a lot of those— around 2050, say, and if we know that a lot of those people will eeeb— that a lot of those people will eeeb ro— that a lot of those people will seek to come— that a lot of those people will seek to come to— that a lot of those people will seek to come to western europe, nowroby— seek to come to western europe, nowroby, ono— seek to come to western europe, naggggy, and r— seek to come to western europe, naturally, and i can— seek to come to western europe, naturally, and i can again understand— naturally, and i can again understand that for them and in

many— understand that for them and in many cases—luck- understand that for them and in many cases luck to many cases i say good luck to you.— many cases i say good luck to yon-lneon— many cases i say good luck to yon-lneon wno— many cases i say good luck to you. mean, who wouldn't you. i mean, who wouldn't want a better— you. i mean, who wouldn't want a better-especially— you. i mean, who wouldn't want a better-especially if- better life, especially if yoe— better life, especially if you've been,- better life, especially if you've been, you had to you've been, you know, had to move—countryi move out of whatever country yon-re— move out of whatever country yow-re rn— move out of whatever country yon-re in or— move out of whatever country you're in at the— move out of whatever country you're in at the minute through or renne— you're in at the minute through war or famine whatever is. you're in at the minute through wartheamine whatever is. you're in at the minute through wartheaminis whatever is. you're in at the minute through war the aminis thatiatever is. you're in at the minute through war the aminis that ataver is. you're in at the minute through war the aminis that at the is. but the fact is that at the moment— but the fact is that at the - moment,_stands, moment, as it currently stands, we-web— moment, as it currently stands, we .welleowerless- moment, as it currently stands, we well powerless to say, we may well be powerless to say, web,— we may well be powerless to say, web, yoe— we may well be powerless to say, well, you've come— we may well be powerless to say, well, you've come here illegally ono— well, you've come here illegally onrnoweo—- well, you've come here illegally enrnowee— yoe- well, you've come here illegally and—move you on.. well, you've come here illegally. and—move you on. this and we want to move you on. this cowe— and we want to move you on. this court entere— and we want to move you on. this could future proof— and we want to move you on. this could future proof britain, cowbe— could future proof britain, cowbelnob— could future proof britain, could not, rishi sunak could it not, if rishi sunak gere— could it not, if rishi sunak gerelngnr— could it not, if rishi sunak gerelngnr rn— could it not, if rishi sunak gets right in iceland and gets it right in iceland and eeweby— gets it right in iceland and actually stands— gets it right in iceland and actually stands up for britain's rnrereere— actually stands up for britain's rnrereere . — actually stands up for britain's rnrereere . .— actually stands up for britain's interests. i think— actually stands up for britain's interests. g interests. i think that's right. well future proofing actually is rather important with the european convention on human rights because the judges of the convention are , of course, convention are, of course, internationalists . yes, they internationalists. yes, they live on a sort of elevated olympian plane inhabited mainly by international bureaucrats and professors of human rights law. they have no particular commitment to any particular society . motty they see society. motty they see themselves as above the particular societies of europe and they are developing the

convention very fast. they're making law when they give judgements under the convention, they're extending it out of all recognition as compared with the convention of 1950. and i don't think that we should have this unaccountable body essentially be leading us by the nose. that's the other reason, actually, for getting out of the convention entirely and having our own convention. i'm not against fundamental rights , but against fundamental rights, but i limit them rather more than they are at the moment. but we should have our own convention, have our own legislation . and have our own legislation. and just as they do in the united states, in canada , in australia states, in canada, in australia , it should be our own legislation and our own judges that decide where we're going, not what an unaccountable liberal elite. yeah. and again, i liberal elite. yeah. and again, winer— liberal elite. yeah. and again, r we went— liberal elite. yeah. and again, rrner wenr ro— c yeah. and again, i just want to emphasise, you know,— i just want to emphasise, you know, wen — i just want to emphasise, you know, rishi sunak as the opportunity— know, rishi sunak as the opportunity to- know, rishi sunak as the opportunity to really grandstand

this opportunity to really grandstand rnre ewenrng— opportunity to really grandstand this evening has— opportunity to really grandstand this evening has an opportunity to reeby— this evening has an opportunity to really stake— this evening has an opportunity to really stake his— this evening has an opportunity to really stake his claim and erebe— to really stake his claim and erene bre— to really stake his claim and stake his vision— to really stake his claim and stake his vision for britain and enow— stake his vision for britain and enow, r— stake his vision for britain and enow, r rnrnb— stake his vision for britain and show, i think, whether or not he is show, i think, whether or not he re eenowe— show, i think, whether or not he is serious about— show, i think, whether or not he is serious about stopping the boere— is serious about stopping the boere ene— is serious about stopping the boats and charting a new course for brbern— boats and charting a new course for britain and— boats and charting a new course for britain and he— boats and charting a new course for britain and he has a serious ro— for britain and he has a serious ro eey— for britain and he has a serious case to say that— for britain and he has a serious case to say that we— for britain and he has a serious case to say that we are trying to bo— case to say that we are trying to do everything— case to say that we are trying to do everything we can to work wbnrn— to do everything we can to work wbnrn your— to do everything we can to work within your framework. if you wir— within your framework. if you wrb nor— within your framework. if you will not work— within your framework. if you will not work with us, you're eewng— will not work with us, you're eewng ro— will not work with us, you're eenng to we— will not work with us, you're asking to us essentially compromise— asking to us essentially compromise our national eeewrby— compromise our national security. you're asking us to eornrornreeb— security. you're asking us to compromise our— security. you're asking us to compromise our finances. you're eewng— compromise our finances. you're asking _compromise - compromise our finances. you're asking compromise our asking us to compromise our nowerng. — asking us to compromise our nowerng. _wel asking us to compromise our nowerng. _we toi housing. you're asking us to eornrornreep— housing. you're asking us to compromise everything, norenbeby— compromise everything, potentially values potentially even cultural values . ane— potentially even cultural values . one ee— potentially even cultural values . one ee e— potentially even cultural values . and as a leader— potentially even cultural values . and as a leader of a sovereign nebon— . and as a leader of a sovereign nebon r— . and as a leader of a sovereign nebon r wir— . and as a leader of a sovereign nation, i will not— . and as a leader of a sovereign nation, i will not just roll over .for whether nation, i will not just roll over .for-whether he over .for that. whether or not he eoee—ro — over .for that. whether or not he eoee—ro be - does that remains to be answered. andrew, thank you very neon. — answered. andrew, thank you very neon. _w— answered. andrew, thank you very much. _that really- much. great chat. that really rnergnbwr— insightful stuff. andrew tettenborn _ insightful stuff. andrewl tettenborn _is insightful stuff. andrew- tettenborn_is an tettenborn there, who is an eeeeenre— tettenborn there, who is an academic and— tettenborn there, who is an academic and of course a lawyer reining— academic and of course a lawyer rewrng ebow— academic and of course a lawyer talking about rishi— academic and of course a lawyer talking about rishi sunak's big eeneeen— talking about rishi sunak's big eeneeen ene— talking about rishi sunak's big chances and it— talking about rishi sunak's big chances and it is— talking about rishi sunak's big chances and it is vital that newe— chances and it is vital that make sure you— chances and it is vital that make sure you keep your eyes and eere-nereleb— make sure you keep your eyes and ears-hereigb news- ears peeled here for gb news beeee— ears peeled here for gb news because-this- ears peeled here for gb news because this evening because later on this evening rone— because later on this evening. around—potentially around the 645 mark, potentially if around the 645 mark, potentially b—enoornry- if everything runs smoothly,| we're expecting to hear from web— we're expecting to hear from brenr-rnere— we're expecting to hear from rishi-there on- we're expecting to hear from rishi there on that very rishi sunak there on that very wir— rishi sunak there on that very issue. will he— rishi sunak there on that very issue. will he do— rishi sunak there on that very issue. will he do what many wowe— issue. will he do what many wowed-re— issue. will he do what many would-is best- issue. will he do what many would is best britain would argue is best for britain 7 would argue is best for britain e-gge,_ would argue is best for britain e-gge, oe— would argue is best for britain ?-side, of course,- would argue is best for britain ? side, of course, to ? the flip side, of course, to it ? the flip side, of course, to

blneeerwe — ? the flip side, of course, to itlmassive-somel it is massive because some pebble— it is massive because some people be people say, well, we would be international— people say, well, we would be international-if- people say, well, we would be. international-if.were international pariahs if we were out international pariahs if we were oer-ene— international pariahs if we were oer-eno rney- international pariahs if we were out-and they don't. out the echr and they don't beer— out the echr and they don't we rne— out the echr and they don't trust this government to up trust this government to come up wbn— trust this government to come up wbn e— trust this government to come up wbn e new— trust this government to come up with a new human— trust this government to come up with a new human rights charter or-erong— with a new human rights charter or-along-lines.. or anything along those lines. but— or anything along those lines. bet—wow,- or anything along those lines. but—now, suellai but there we go. now, suella braverman though, moving on, eeye— braverman though, moving on,l eeye—enowrenb says that white people shouldn't feel says that white people shouldn't feet rner— says that white people shouldn't feef fnef fbey— says that white people shouldn't feel that they are— says that white people shouldn't feel that they are they have a eobeebwe— feel that they are they have a collective _the - feel that they are they have a collective the slave collective guilt over the slave beefe— collective guilt over the slave frebelene— collective guilt over the slave trade..she right— collective guilt over the slave trade. she right about this? trade. is she right about this? in — trade. is she right about this? in befrien— trade. is she right about this? i'm patrick christys on gb news brffefn-e— i'm patrick christys on gb news britain's news—

news radio. all right. news radio. i i all right. so news radio. - - all right. so here's news radio. _ - all right. so here's a wewe beefe— - all right. so here's a question all right. so here's a question for you. - all right. so here's a question for yoe—neopre- for you. should white people feel guilty over the slave trade and other historic wrongs? the home , who is, home secretary herself, who is, of course, the daughter of immigrants, think so. immigrants, doesn't think so. suella braverman claimed immigrants, doesn't think so. suelwhite verman claimed immigrants, doesn't think so. suelwhite people claimed immigrants, doesn't think so. suelwhite people shouldiimed immigrants, doesn't think so. suelwhite people should notd that white people should not feel sense of collective feel any sense of collective guilt over their historic role in slavery in a speech as a right wing conference, she condemned people being blamed for things that happened before , before they were born. i just wonder if this is part of a bigger picture to debate all of this. i'm joined now by the

actor and writer femi nylander and gb news very own darren grimes well. darren, i'll grimes as well. darren, i'll start with you. it's suella braverman right to say that white people shouldn't walk around this sense around with this sense of collective sin and for collective sin and guilt for history . things happened before history. things happened before they born . absolutely. i they were born. absolutely. i mean , patrick,— they were born. absolutely. i mean , patrick, if— they were born. absolutely. i mean , patrick, if we- absolutely. i mean , patrick, if we go down mean, patrick, if we go down fnfe— mean, patrick, if we go down fnfe eee,— mean, patrick, if we go down this road, where— mean, patrick, if we go down this road, where does it end, rfgnfe— this road, where does it end, rfgnfe bo— this road, where does it end, ngnfe bo ,— this road, where does it end, right? do i have— this road, where does it end, right? do i have a claim to say we— right? do i have a claim to say we fbe— right? do i have a claim to say that the vikings— right? do i have a claim to say that the vikings came over to fbe— that the vikings came over to the north—east— that the vikings came over to the north—east of— that the vikings came over to the north—east of england back in fbe— the north—east of england back in we eeye— the north—east of england back in we eeye — the north—east of england back in we eeye bo— the north—east of england back in the day? do we— the north—east of england back in the day? jrrt: the north—east of england back in the day? th ten: in the day? do we have a claim to say that in 1066 the french show us a penny or two? how about the romans— show us a penny or two? how about the romans ? - show us a penny or two? how about the romans ? maybe my about the romans? maybe my ancestors were irish. maybe i've got claim to trace oliver cromwell's family and track them down for a bob or two. this is just obscene. and of course, people shouldn't be walking around feeling guilty. i mean, i remember during the heat of the black lives matter in sanity, frankly, that consumed this nafion frankly, that consumed this nation after the death of an american man where a little white girl was on bended knee holding a placard saying that

her whiteness basically makes her whiteness basically makes her guilty in some way. children, that's a child. and of course, this is seeping through to schools through this critical race theory as well . i think race theory as well. i think it's right for a home secretary country to stand up and say , country to stand up and say, actually, this is nonsense , actually, this is nonsense, divisive nonsense that should be rejected at the highest order, which it has been. all right, femi, your views. which it has been. all right, femi, your views . well, which it has been. all right, femi, your views. well, i'm i'm going— femi, your views. well, i'm i'm gorng fo— femi, your views. well, i'm i'm going to hopefully— femi, your views. well, i'm i'm going to hopefully put- . well, i'm i'm going to hopefully put a put a counter—argument to some of the nrne— counter—argument to some of the one of— counter—argument to some of the one of renbenf— counter—argument to some of the kind of rampant nonsense which has kind of rampant nonsense which nee been— kind of rampant nonsense which has been spoken— kind of rampant nonsense which has been spoken about this this reewe— has been spoken about this this . fbe— has been spoken about this this issue . the reality— has been spoken about this this issue . the reality is- has been spoken about this this issue . ”riot; can "rt; issue. the reality is that we're not necessarily need to talk about guilt. i'm not guilty for eonefnrng— about guilt. i'm not guilty for eonefnrng r— about guilt. i'm not guilty for something i didn't— g cg i'm not guilty for something i didn't do. r:rt:r something i didn't do. but we do need— something i didn't do. but we do need fo— something i didn't do. but we do need do fern— something i didn't do. but we do need to talk about understanding . you've tied it in to the issue of nrgrefron— . you've tied it in to the issue of migration and— you've tied it in to the issue of migration and the issue of now— of migration and the issue of now now— of migration and the issue of now now fbe— of migration and the issue of how how the uk— of migration and the issue of how how the uk deals with its rerefronenrb— how how the uk deals with its relationship to _ how how the uk deals with its relationship to other countries. and— relationship to other countries. and r— relationship to other countries. and r fnrnn— relationship to other countries. and i think if— relationship to other countries. and i think if people did if wnrfe— and i think if people did if wnrfe pebble— and i think if people did if white people in the country did newe— white people in the country did newe e— white people in the country did newe e brgger— white people in the country did have a bigger understanding of now— have a bigger understanding of now fbe— have a bigger understanding of now we fre-e— have a bigger understanding of how the uk's past and present

eefrone— how the uk's past and present actions actually— how the uk's past and present actions actually lead to a lot of e— actions actually lead to a lot of e of— actions actually lead to a lot of e fof of— actions actually lead to a lot of a lot of the— actions actually lead to a lot of a lot of the economic rnegwebfy— of a lot of the economic inequality that exists in the word— inequality that exists in the word fodey: — inequality that exists in the world today, which pushes people to world today, which pushes people fo free— world today, which pushes people fo free nowerfy— world today, which pushes people to flee poverty in— world today, which pushes people to flee poverty in other parts of fbe— to flee poverty in other parts of the world _ to flee poverty in other parts of the world in— to flee poverty in other parts of the world in which the uk is eonbbdf— of the world in which the uk is eonbbdf rn— of the world in which the uk is complicit in through owning various taxes,— complicit in through owning various taxes, through having fee— various taxes, through having various tax protected rates and tax various tax protected rates and fee newen— various tax protected rates and tax haven protectorates attached to tax haven protectorates attached fo fbe— tax haven protectorates attached fo fne eonoeny— tax haven protectorates attached to the company cayman islands, rereey— to the company cayman islands, rereey|efeefere— to the company cayman islands, jersey etcetera, through jersey, etcetera, through a nrefory— jersey, etcetera, through a nrefory of— jersey, etcetera, through a history of pillage and theft fnrowgn— history of pillage and theft fnrowgn eb— history of pillage and theft through all the diamond and enererd— through all the diamond and emerald companies listed on the london— emerald companies listed on the london sfoen— emerald companies listed on the london stock exchange, which nerbed— london stock exchange, which nerbed fo— london stock exchange, which helped to syphon wealth out of ofner— helped to syphon wealth out of ofner perfe— helped to syphon wealth out of ofner perfe of— helped to syphon wealth out of other parts of the— helped to syphon wealth out of other parts of the world. if the uk other parts of the world. if the be dd— other parts of the world. if the be drd newe— other parts of the world. if the uk did have a— other parts of the world. if the uk did have a better understanding its own role uk did have a better— understandinglits own role in understanding of its own role in why— understanding of its own role in wny fnere— understanding of its own role in wny fnere-eo— understanding of its own role in why there so economic why there was so much economic rnberenee:— why there was so much economic imbalance,-might- why there was so much economic imbalance, might actually imbalance, people might actually enbefnree— imbalance, people might actually empathise_more- imbalance, people might actually empathise more with empathise a little bit more with pebble— empathise a little bit more with geogre freerng:— empathise a little bit more with people fleeing, fleeing, not reef— people fleeing, fleeing, not we wer— people fleeing, fleeing, not we bef— people fleeing, fleeing, not just war, but also poverty . just war, but also poverty. berren— just war, but also poverty. been bo— just war, but also poverty. darren, do you— just war, but also poverty. darren, do you think- just war, but also poverty. darren, do you think that this is actually a problem that exists? do you think that white people are being being made to feel guilty or held to account for things that they've got nothing to do with or i suspect the counter argument to it would be is suella braverman almost inventing a problem here to get

right wing tory votes? what do you think? no, i don't think that at all. i mean, we've just need— that at all. i mean, we've just need from — that at all. i mean, we've just heard from your— i mean, we've just heard from your guests there fnef— heard from your guests there be en— heard from your guests there that an entire— heard from your guests there that an entire diet tribe on how ewfer— that an entire diet tribe on how awful britain— that an entire diet tribe on how awful britain has— that an entire diet tribe on how awful britain has been in the beef. — awful britain has been in the beef. web:— awful britain has been in the past. well, actually britain is reeeonerbre— past. well, actually britain is responsible for— past. well, actually britain is responsible for the industrial reworefron— responsible for the industrial revolution that's— responsible for the industrial revolution that's responsible for neny— revolution that's responsible for many working class people round— for many working class people roend fbe— for many working class people around the world— for many working class people around the world not dying at enrfdbrrfn— around the world not dying at childbirth or— around the world not dying at childbirth or crawling around in fnerr— childbirth or crawling around in fnerr own— childbirth or crawling around in their own filth. _ childbirth or crawling around in their own filth. right. the gift fnef— their own filth. right. the gift that britain— their own filth. right. the gift that britain gave the world is fnef— that britain gave the world is fnef nee— that britain gave the world is one that has reduced relative bowerfy— one that has reduced relative bowerfy eoend— one that has reduced relative poverty around the globe. so i don-f— poverty around the globe. so i don-f eeeebf— poverty around the globe. so i don't accept that— poverty around the globe. so i don't accept that britain is enrgee— don't accept that britain is some unique evil. actually i rnrnb— some unique evil. actually i think britain— some unique evil. actually i think britain has been a gift to the think britain has been a gift to be wond— think britain has been a gift to be worfd. r— think britain has been a gift to the world. i think— think britain has been a gift to the world. i think suella braverman— the world. i think suella braverman is— the world. i think suella braverman is right to point out. i braverman is right to point out. r eeen— braverman is right to point out. r fbe— braverman is right to point out. i mean, the idea— braverman is right to point out. i mean, the idea that— braverman is right to point out. i mean, the idea that white- i mean, the idea that white people don't know about things that have been committed in the past of course we know that. we talk about empire slavery- eli]. we talk about empire slavery every two talk about empire slavery every fwo eeonde — talk about empire slavery every two seconds. patrick i can't rnegrne— two seconds. patrick i can't even imagine the number of times wbere— even imagine the number of times wnere yoe— even imagine the number of times wnere yoe bed— even imagine the number of times where you've had to— even imagine the number of times where you've had to talk about fnre— where you've had to talk about free ee— where you've had to talk about free ee e— where you've had to talk about free ee e forfe— where you've had to talk about this as a topic on— where you've had to talk about this as a topic on this very enow— this as a topic on this very enow. rf-e— this as a topic on this very enow. be e— this as a topic on this very show. it's a complete nonsense

to show. it's a complete nonsense fo eey— show. it's a complete nonsense fo eey fnef— show. it's a complete nonsense fo eey be we— show. it's a complete nonsense to say that we don't discuss fneee— to say that we don't discuss these issues— to say that we don't discuss these issues .— to say that we don't discuss these issues . what's feeding these issues. what's feeding fnroegn— these issues. what's feeding fnroegn re— these issues. what's feeding through is this— these issues. what's feeding through is this idea that white reorde— through is this idea that white reorre newe— through is this idea that white reorre newe en— through is this idea that white people have an inherent errwrrege— people have an inherent privilege .— people have an inherent privilege . r— people have an inherent privilege . i think that's privilege. i think that's a enrgeery— privilege. i think that's a uniquely racist idea. tell my grandfather , patrick, who was grandfather, patrick, who was down a mine as a teenager, that he had some unique level of privilege going back when he fought in the korean war. did he have some unique level- fought in the korean war. did he have some unique level of- have some unique level of privilege?— have some unique level of privilege? b— have some unique level of privilege? it is— have some unique level of privilege? it is a racist defeeron— privilege? it is a racist delusion and- privilege? it is a racist delusion and ought to be called out delusion and ought to be called oef bne— delusion and ought to be called oef bbe ff— delusion and ought to be called out like it has— delusion and ought to be called out like it has been. . g out like it has been. all right . fenn— out like it has been. all right . beer. r— out like it has been. all right , femi, i mean, there's a lot to come back to you there, femi, to be fair. but i mean, i think on of— be fair. but i mean, i think on of fne— be fair. but i mean, i think on one of the points— . but i mean, i think on one of the points that darren eeebng— one of the points that darren was making, which is about this rdee— was making, which is about this be now— was making, which is about this idea now-suella- idea now that and suella braverman raising it, which braverman was raising it, which is braverman was raising it, which re—eeyrng- is she's essentially saying that wnef— is she's essentially saying that wnef-of— is she's essentially saying that wnef-of people- is she's essentially saying that. what-of people-left what a lot of people on the left are what a lot of people on the left ere-fo— what a lot of people on the left ere-fo do— what a lot of people on the left ere-fo do re— what a lot of people on the left are to do is pigeonhole are trying to do is pigeonhole people— are trying to do is pigeonhole eeonde-bef— are trying to do is pigeonhole eeode-ref ee— are trying to do is pigeonhole people-put us all- are trying to do is pigeonhole people put us all into people and put us all into bere— people and put us all into little boxes,— people and put us all into little boxes, which actually eoeerbry— little boxes, which actually possibly does— little boxes, which actually possibly does to divide possibly does more to divide us fnee— possibly does more to divide us fnen—and- than it does unite us. and wnrref— than it does unite us. and whilst-focusing- than it does unite us. and. whilst-focusing.the than it does unite us. and whilsand focusing the than it does unite us. and whilsand thingsising the than it does unite us. and whilsand things that the than it does unite us. and whilsand things that are the past and things that are grandparents— past and things that are grandparents or great grandparents or great grandparents not grandparents may or may not have even—eefeeby- even done, we're not actually eorfrng— even done, we're not actually sorting-present,- even done, we're not actually sorting present, are we? sorting out the present, are we? bow— sorting out the present, are we? bow woefd— sorting out the present, are we? bow woerd yoe— sorting out the present, are we? how would you respond to that? i

eeen-breeenf— how would you respond to that? i mean, present comes from the mean, the present comes from the beef. — mean, the present comes from the beef. fbe— mean, the present comes from the reef. fbe rdee— mean, the present comes from the past. the idea that— mean, the present comes from the past. the idea that the- past. the idea that the industrial revolution some industrial revolution is some amazing that gifted to amazing thing that was gifted to the world is, is farcical, to be honest. industrial honest. the industrial revolution on revolution was was was built on the profits of slave trade. the profits of the slave trade. it built on the fact that at it was built on the fact that at the time as the industrial the same time as the industrial revolution happened, britain had the same time as the industrial revempire happened, britain had the same time as the industrial revempire which ned, britain had the same time as the industrial revempire which allowed ain had the same time as the industrial revempire which allowed aiito ad an empire which allowed it to bnngin an empire which allowed it to bring in huge amounts wealth bring in huge amounts of wealth from of the from other parts of the world and revolution, this and fuel this revolution, this revolution have revolution wouldn't have happened britain being happened without britain being able subjugate other of able to subjugate other parts of the again, we can say the world. and again, we can say that we know this history, but we the reality of we don't know the reality of this history. we divorced, this history. we know divorced, beheaded, survived. but does beheaded, survived. but how does it now? femi, to be it help us now? femi, to be fern— it help us now? femi, to be fern-ff— it help us now? femi, to be fern-ff now- it help us now? femi, to be fair,-it how does. it help us now? femi, to be| fair,-it how does it fair, how does it how does it now— fair, how does it how does it now-bere— fair, how does it how does it now-bere ee- fair, how does it how does it how help us now? fair, how does it how does it. how-help us now? but how does it help us now? but bur.— how does it help us now? but be. be— how does it help us now? but be. be be— how does it help us now? but but, but but to _ how does it help us now? but but, but but to answer your point, the past links to today, because past is result of because the past is a result of today. the wealth this today. the wealth that this country which is a country has has, which is a large the people large part of the reason people tried migrate here, is tried to migrate here, is a result history. okay and result of its history. okay and history informs history is what informs the present. what led present. history is what has led to the present. you can't you can't talking now can't divorce talking about now from yesterday. from talking about yesterday. okay very quickly for okay. just just very quickly for. me,_aware-we're okay. just just very quickly for. mbit_aware-we're okay. just just very quickly for mbit pressed aware we're okay. just just very quickly for mbit pressed for aware we're okay. just just very quickly for mbit pressed for timee we're okay. just just very quickly for mbit pressed for time here. we're okay. just just very quickly for mbit pressed for time here. but re a bit pressed for time here. but but a bit pressed for time here. but be on— a bit pressed for time here. but be on fnef—

a bit pressed for time here. but but on that then,— a bit pressed for time here. but but on that then, which is this wereo-f— but on that then, which is this we're-of-you've. we're aware of that. you've enoben— we're aware of that. you've spoken about— we're aware of that. you've spoken about and it can be spoken about it and it can be fewer— taught more in schools or wbefewer— taught more in schools or whatever. but— taught more in schools or whatever. but should whatever. but but should there be—gerb— whatever. but but should there be—gerb fnef- whatever. but but should there be guilt that comes be a sense of guilt that comes wrfn— be a sense of guilt that comes wrfn fnefe— be a sense of guilt that comes wrfn fnefe r— be a sense of guilt that comes with that? i mean,— be a sense of guilt that comes with that? i mean, do have to with that? i mean, do we have to wear-a cross? n0- with that? i mean, do we have to wear-a cross? no one. wear it like a cross? no one should— wear it like a cross? no one should be inherit partly wear it like a cross.7 no one should be inherit partly guilty for something they didn't do, but you guilty but at what you can be guilty about trying to as about is not trying to as a nafion about is not trying to as a nation or as a country come to terms with. no one says a german should feel guilty about the holocaust. is the germany holocaust. this is the germany has understanding. this is a has an understanding. this is a real understanding— has an understanding. this is a real understanding of- has an understanding. this is a real understanding of its- real understanding of its history— real understanding of its history .— real understanding of its history . this— real understanding of its history . this this a good history. this is this is a good point— history. this is this is a good point because— history. this is this is a good point because i— history. this is this is a good point because i feel we point because i feel like we take— point because i feel like we takellot— point because i feel like we takellot-the- point because i feel like we. takellot-the burden take a lot more of the burden than— take a lot more of the burden than potentially— take a lot more of the burden than potentially if we're applying— than potentially if we're applying here applying the same logic here right.— applying the same logic here right-obviously- applying the same logic here right. obviously people applying the same logic here right.certain»bviously people applying the same logic here right.certain»bvioueuropean have certain other european otis— have certain other european ounties ot— have certain other european countries at a— have certain other european countries at a certain period of time,— countries at a certain period of tine—youl time, both of you, thank you very,— time, both of you, thank you veto—couttl time, both of you, thank you. very,_could talk very, very much. we could talk all very, very much. we could talk oti toy— very, very much. we could talk oti toy otout— very, very much. we could talk all day about that, but alas, were-otie— all day about that, but alas, we're-able to. - all day about that, but alas, we're able to. that was we're not able to. that was octon— we're not able to. that was- actor—nylander actor and writer femi nylander on_own darren. on gb news very own darren crimes— on gb news very own darren grimes, another— on gb news very own darren. grimes, another—the grimes, another member of the saturday— grimes, another member of the sotuntoy—youl saturday five. by the way, you —out— saturday five. by the way, you —out o- saturday five. by the way, you cn—out s on- saturday five. by the way, you can—out 8 or 9- saturday five. by the way, youi can _out 8 or 9 pm. can check that out 8 or 9 pm. every— can check that out 8 or 9 pm. even-suturin- can check that out 8 or 9 pm. every-saturday-here every single saturday right here on-uon— every single saturday right here on now supporting on gb news. now supporting tonnes— on gb news. now supporting tonnes is— on gb news. now supporting farmers is not— on gb news. now supporting farmers is not about some nostoioic— farmers is not about some nostalgic vision- farmers is not about some nostalgic vision the uk's nostalgic vision of the uk's tuni— nostalgic vision of the uk's nunoi post— nostalgic vision of the uk's nunoi post ,— nostalgic vision of the uk's rural past , but— nostalgic vision of the uk's rural past, but about growing the rural past, but about growing tne-,— rural past, but about growing tne-, cneotino- rural past, but about growing the , creating more jobs the economy, creating more jobs ont— the economy, creating more jobs ont tuiitino— the economy, creating more jobs and building the— the economy, creating more jobs and building the uk's food security— and building the uk's food

security .— and building the uk's food security . that's- and building the uk's food security . that's the message security. that's the message tron— security. that's the message tron itisni — security. that's the message from rishi sunak morning as from rishi sunak this morning as he from rishi sunak this morning as ne nostet— from rishi sunak this morning as ne nostet tne— from rishi sunak this morning as he hosted the farm _ from rishi sunak this morning as he hosted the farm to fork sunnit— he hosted the farm to fork summit consumer group , which summit consumer group, which soys— summit consumer group, which soys tnot— summit consumer group, which soys tnot toot — summit consumer group, which says that food inflation is stit— says that food inflation is stiii ot— says that food inflation is still at shockingly high levels. so still at shockingly high levels. so tet-s— still at shockingly high levels. so iet-s tet-s— still at shockingly high levels. so let's let's take— still at shockingly high levels. so let's let's take a look, snott— so let's let's take a look, snoii nee— so let's let's take a look, shall we.7 how- so let's let's take a look, shall we? how much some popular products— shall we? how much some popular products-teen— shall we? how much some popular products-been going- shall we? how much some popular products been going up over products have been going up over the products have been going up over tne-ny— products have been going up over tne-ny tne— products have been going up over tne-ny tne ent- products have been going up over the-by the end of- the past year. by the end of aptit— the past year. by the end of aunt ,— the past year. by the end of april , cheese— the past year. by the end of april, cheese had up by april, cheese had gone up by zoo.— april, cheese had gone up by non i— april, cheese had gone up by non i so— april, cheese had gone up by non i o— april, cheese had gone up by 25.4. i saw a six— april, cheese had gone up by 25.4. i saw a six purity tag on a 25.4. i saw a six purity tag on o tioct— 25.4. i saw a six purity tag on o tioct ot— 25.4. i saw a six purity tag on a block of cheddar in a shop the otter— a block of cheddar in a shop the otner toy.— a block of cheddar in a shop the otner toy. init— a block of cheddar in a shop the other day. milk has— a block of cheddar in a shop the other day. milk has increased by m. — other day. milk has increased by m. .nos— other day. milk has increased by m. .nos gone— other day. milk has increased by 24.2.-has gone up- other day. milk has increased by 24.2. has gone up by 14.6% 24.2. veg has gone up by 14.6% ont— 24.2. veg has gone up by 14.6% ont neot— 24.2. veg has gone up by 14.6% ont neot nos— 24.2. veg has gone up by 14.6% and meat has risen— 24.2. veg has gone up by 14.6% and meat has risen by 14.3. so it is— and meat has risen by 14.3. so it is orguotiy— and meat has risen by 14.3. so it is arguably worse news for vegetorions— it is arguably worse news for vegetarians than— it is arguably worse news for vegetarians than it is for carnivores. but there we go. joining— carnivores. but there we go. joining ne— carnivores. but there we go. joining me no— carnivores. but there we go. joining me now is the shadow minister— joining me now is the shadow ninister tor— joining me now is the shadow minister for the— joining me now is the shadow minister for the environment, toot— minister for the environment, toot-tuni— minister for the environment, food rural affairs, daniel food and rural affairs, daniel zeicnner.— food and rural affairs, daniel zeichner.-thank- food and rural affairs, daniel zeichner. thank very zeichner. mp. thank you very nucn. — zeichner. mp. thank you very nucn. _nove- zeichner. mp. thank you very much. _have you- zeichner. mp. thank you very. much. _have you .the much. great to have you on the snow.— much. great to have you on the snow-intent,— much. great to have you on the show.-right, what- much. great to have you on the show. right, what are you show. so, right, what are you going— show. so, right, what are you going to— show. so, right, what are you going to to— show. so, right, what are you going to do about this then? tet-s— going to do about this then? tet-s-you-re— going to do about this then? tet-s-you-relo- going to do about this then? let's you're a labour let's say you're in a labour government— let's say you're in a labour government are government right now. how are you— government right now. how are you going— government right now. how are you going-make— government right now. how are you going make cheese you going to make my cheese cneogere—tnel cheaper? well, that's the question was question that rishi sunak was supposed be addressing today supposed to be addressing today . is that we're . and the problem is that we're seeing things that have been seeing things that have not been done by government the done by the government over the last coming back to bite last year coming back to bite us. basically, this government didn't support our farmers at

times when other countries were supporting theirs. and that's why our farmers are now at a competitive so competitive disadvantage. so it's difficult to undo sometimes the mistakes of the past, but we get behind our farmers and we wouldn't out in wouldn't be selling them out in future deals. okay isn't future trade deals. okay isn't the biggest mistake- : : isn't the biggest mistake possibly , the biggest mistake possibly, tnougn— the biggest mistake possibly, tnougn, tnot— the biggest mistake possibly, though, that vladimir putin invotet— though, that vladimir putin invaded ukraine and that has had gutte— invaded ukraine and that has had quite o— invaded ukraine and that has had quite o iorge— invaded ukraine and that has had quite a large scale— invaded ukraine and that has had quite a large scale impact on toot— quite a large scale impact on toot-ti— quite a large scale impact on food-et cetera- quite a large scale impact on food-et cetera .- quite a large scale impact on food et cetera . and you food prices? et cetera. and you con-t— food prices? et cetera. and you con-t reoiiy— food prices? et cetera. and you can't really blame— food prices? et cetera. and you can't really blame rishi sunak for can't really blame rishi sunak tor tnot— can't really blame rishi sunak tor tnotlyou— can't really blame rishi sunak for that,-you ? - can't really blame rishi sunak for that,-you ? of- can't really blame rishi sunak for that, you ? o” tact. for that, can you? of course its— for that, can you? of course its too— for that, can you? of course it's had an effect. but what i'm saying to you is that different countries have different countries have taken different approaches . and the fact approaches to this. and the fact that there wasn't support for our salad growers for our poultry producers, that's why we're not producing the stuff in this anymore. that's why this country anymore. that's why it is on sale in european countries moment . that's countries at the moment. that's a choice our government made , a choice our government made, but consequences for but there are consequences for that listened closely to that. and i listened closely to what the prime minister said today , but i don't think i'm today, but i don't think i'm seeing anything that would help with at moment with with that at the moment with absolute respect, am not absolute respect, i am not heanng absolute respect, i am not hearing what would hearing exactly what you would do. understand that you've do. i understand that you've

soto— do. i understand that you've soit-itisni — do. i understand that you've said-rishi sunak- do. i understand that you've. said-rishi sunak-done said what rishi sunak has done wrong— said what rishi sunak has done wrong ont— said what rishi sunak has done wrong and that's— said what rishi sunak has done wrong and that's okay. what are you going— wrong and that's okay. what are you going to— wrong and that's okay. what are you going to toe— wrong and that's okay. what are you going to do? well, it takes a you going to do? well, it takes o certoin— you going to do? well, it takes a certain amount— you going to do? well, it takes a certain amount of time to grow stutt. — a certain amount of time to grow stutt. rou— a certain amount of time to grow stuff. you plant— a certain amount of time to grow stuff. you plant it.— a certain amount of time to grow stuff. you plant it. a- a certain amount of time to grow stuff. 4:3. g ' stuff. you plant it. a few months ago and we'd be harvesting it now. the fact is, it wasn't planted . those are the it wasn't planted. those are the reasons why we had the problem now, because the mistakes the government's made in the past, obviously we would have done something different. be something different. so we'd be in place now. we in a different place now. we come make come into government, we'll make sure that farmers get a fair crack because at the moment we're all paying more in the supermarkets. that's not supermarkets. but that's not getting through to our farmers and that's why we've got the problem. that's prime problem. that's what the prime minister been minister should have been deaung dealing with today. but frankly, he got. do you have a he hasn't got. do you have a oton— he hasn't got. do you have a gion e— he hasn't got. do you have a plan ? absolutely— he hasn't got. do you have a plan ? absolutely - he hasn't got. do you have a plan ? absolutely we- c gist do you have a plan ? absolutely �*ft�*tz; he hasn't got. do you have a- plan ? absolutely we have a plan. plan? absolutely we have a plan. we've been talking about it. we've been talking about it. we've been talking about it for the last few years. well, come on. tell me now. talk about it onoy.— on. tell me now. talk about it otoy. onoy.— on. tell me now. talk about it now. okay. okay. look,- iii" tell me now. talk about it now. okay. okay. look, look, there thing called the there was a thing called the grocery adjudicator, right? grocery code adjudicator, right? who? tries out that who? who tries to sort out that relationship between the supermarkets the farmers . supermarkets and the farmers. three years ago, i was calling

for that to be strengthened. the government not only didn't do anything, actually talked government not only didn't do anythi getting actually talked government not only didn't do anythi getting ridjally talked government not only didn't do anythi getting rid of ly talked government not only didn't do anythi getting rid of it talked government not only didn't do anythi getting rid of it recently about getting rid of it recently . to say today . now, i'm glad to say today they back from that. but they drew back from that. but there are things you do. but there are things you can do. but this government's approach there are things you can do. but thyouyvernment's approach there are things you can do. but thyou shouldn't's approach there are things you can do. but thyou shouldn't intervene.proach is you shouldn't intervene. there isn't a role for government . we think there is, government. we think there is, and that's why it would be different. all right. different. okay. all right. look thank very look, daniel, thank you very nucn. —greot- look, daniel, thank you very much. _great to. look, daniel, thank you very. much. _great to have much. it's been great to have you on the show. to get you on the show. i hope to get you on the show. i hope to get you on the show. i hope to get you on very shortly. you back on very shortly. i enjoy our little back and forth as eating there mp, who enjoy our little back and forth asthe eating there mp, who enjoy our little back and forth asthe shadow1g there mp, who enjoy our little back and forth asthe shadow ministermp, who enjoy our little back and forth asthe shadow minister for who is the shadow minister for environment, rural environment, food and rural affairs. look, it is a massive issue for people. affects issue for people. it affects everyone, doesn't price everyone, doesn't it? the price of the shops now there's of food at the shops now there's loads between now loads more to come between now and harry is and 6:00. prince harry is involved in more legal action. he and you he wants me and you to potentially well have to potentially as well have to forego bobbies on the beat in order him. that's order to protect him. that's a bit a cheek, isn't it? and we bit of a cheek, isn't it? and we will the comments from will discuss the comments from a tory that have tory mp about marriage that have caused controversy. caused plenty of controversy. should you just blindly stay together the sake the together for the sake of the kids? but now headlines kids? but right now headlines with polly . patrick. thank you.

with polly. patrick. thank you. the top stories— with polly. patrick. thank you. the top stories .— with polly. patrick. thank you. the top stories . three- f thank you. the top stories . three men who the top stories. three men who suggiiet— the top stories. three men who supptiet tote— the top stories. three men who supplied fake passports to crininois— supplied fake passports to criminals have— supplied fake passports to criminals have been jailed . and criminals have been jailed. and antnony— criminals have been jailed. and anthony beard,— criminals have been jailed. and anthony beard, christopher btec and anthony beard, christopher btec ont aton— anthony beard, christopher btec and alan thompson helped murderers and— and alan thompson helped murderers and drug dealers evade iustice— murderers and drug dealers evade iustice. neoco— murderers and drug dealers evade justice. beard who— murderers and drug dealers evade justice. beard who paid vulnerable— justice. beard who paid vulnerable people for their expired— vulnerable people for their expired documents, was sentenced to six— expired documents, was sentenced to six yeors— expired documents, was sentenced to six yeors ont— expired documents, was sentenced to six years and eight months. his accomplices— to six years and eight months. his accomplices will serve a continet— his accomplices will serve a combined term— his accomplices will serve a combined term of 11 years. essex notice— combined term of 11 years. essex notice is— combined term of 11 years. essex police is investigating an ottegotion— police is investigating an allegation of— police is investigating an allegation of serious sexual ossouit— allegation of serious sexual assault concerning the solihull mp assault concerning the solihull no yution— assault concerning the solihull mp julian knight— assault concerning the solihull mp julian knight. it assault concerning the solihull mp julian knight . it follows mp julian knight. it follows a retenoi— mp julian knight. it follows a retenoi ty— mp julian knight. it follows a referral by scotland yard and otter— referral by scotland yard and comes after the _ referral by scotland yard and comes after the metropolitan notice— comes after the metropolitan police dropped _ comes after the metropolitan police dropped its investigation into o— police dropped its investigation into o cioin— police dropped its investigation into a claim more— police dropped its investigation into a claim more than a month ago— into a claim more than a month ogo .— into a claim more than a month ogo . tir— into a claim more than a month ogo . in tnigtt— into a claim more than a month ago . mr knight, who was stripped ago. mr knight, who was stripped of ago. mr knight, who was stripped ot tne— ago. mr knight, who was stripped of the conservative _ ago. mr knight, who was stripped of the conservative whip, has teniet— of the conservative whip, has denied what— of the conservative whip, has denied what he— of the conservative whip, has denied what he described as a rose— denied what he described as a toise ont— denied what he described as a false and malicious accusation . false and malicious accusation. action.— false and malicious accusation. action. ne— false and malicious accusation. action. he doesn't— false and malicious accusation. action. he doesn't plan to run at action. he doesn't plan to run ot tne— action. he doesn't plan to run ot tne next— action. he doesn't plan to run at the next election and the environment— at the next election and the environment secretary has stresset— environment secretary has stresset tne— environment secretary has stressed the importance of an ottortotie— stressed the importance of an affordable, sustainable and resiiient— affordable, sustainable and resilient food— affordable, sustainable and resilient food supply chain at the resilient food supply chain at tne torn — resilient food supply chain at tne ton to— resilient food supply chain at the farm to fork— resilient food supply chain at the farm to fork summit in downing— the farm to fork summit in downing street. _ the farm to fork summit in downing street. the government's promising— downing street. the government's promising o— downing street. the government's promising a fairer— downing street. the government's promising a fairer price for tonnnens— promising a fairer price for

farmers produce and has pledged to get— farmers produce and has pledged to get o— farmers produce and has pledged to get o utter— farmers produce and has pledged to get a wider range of their products— to get a wider range of their gnotucts on— to get a wider range of their products on supermarket shelves. the products on supermarket shelves. ine iotest— products on supermarket shelves. the latest figures— products on supermarket shelves. the latest figures show that neot— the latest figures show that m, yognunt— the latest figures show that meat, yoghurt and vegetables are just meat, yoghurt and vegetables are iust some— meat, yoghurt and vegetables are iust ot— meat, yoghurt and vegetables are just some of the— meat, yoghurt and vegetables are just some of the items that have toutiet— just some of the items that have toutiet in— just some of the items that have doubled in price— just some of the items that have doubled in price compared to a yeon— doubled in price compared to a yeon ogo— doubled in price compared to a yeon ogo .— doubled in price compared to a yeon ogo . ant— doubled in price compared to a year ago . and the— doubled in price compared to a year ago . and the head of the year ago. and the head of the itoyoi— year ago. and the head of the itoyoi cottege— year ago. and the head of the royal college of— year ago. and the head of the royal college of nursing is urging— royal college of nursing is urging union— royal college of nursing is urging union members to vote in toou— urging union members to vote in toou ot— urging union members to vote in favour of further— urging union members to vote in favour of further walkouts to strengtnen — favour of further walkouts to strengthen their— favour of further walkouts to strengthen their hand in negotiations— strengthen their hand in negotiations with the government at a negotiations with the government ot o nostoi— negotiations with the government at a postal ballot— negotiations with the government at a postal ballot on new strikes— at a postal ballot on new strikes will— at a postal ballot on new strikes will open week strikes will open next week otter— strikes will open next week otter tne — strikes will open next week after the rcn _ strikes will open next week after the rcn turned down a 5% pay after the rcn turned down a 5% ooy rise— after the rcn turned down a 5% ooy tnis— after the rcn turned down a 5% ooy tnis yeon— after the rcn turned down a 5% pay rise this year and a one off poynent— pay rise this year and a one off goynent ton— pay rise this year and a one off payment for last— pay rise this year and a one off payment for last year. addressing— payment for last year. addressing the annual conference, _ addressing the annual conference, pat cullen said the government— conference, pat cullen said the government will— conference, pat cullen said the government will be forced to improve— government will be forced to improve their— government will be forced to improve their offer if the union nos— improve their offer if the union nos onotnen— improve their offer if the union has another six— improve their offer if the union has another six month strike nontote— has another six month strike nontote on— has another six month strike mandate on tv— has another six month strike mandate on tv online derby plus notio— mandate on tv online derby plus notio ont— mandate on tv online derby plus notio ont on— mandate on tv online derby plus radio and on the— mandate on tv online derby plus radio and on the tune in app. tnis— radio and on the tune in app. tnis is— radio and on the tune in app. tnis is .— radio and on the tune in app. tnis is . cn— radio and on the tune in app. this is . gb news— radio and on the tune in app. this is . gb news direct bullion this is. gb news direct bullion sponsors ine— this is. gb news direct bullion sponsors. �*" iii" sponsors. the finance report on gb news for gold and silver investment . a quick snapshot of

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with prince harry in the home office. so he's put in to iuticioi— office. so he's put in to judicial review- cc: so he's put in to judicial review applications, to— judicial review applications, one, to review— judicial review applications, one, to review the decision on by tne— one, to review the decision on by tne none— one, to review the decision on by the home office to withdraw his by the home office to withdraw nis pensonoi— by the home office to withdraw his personal police protection tron— his personal police protection tron tne— his personal police protection tron tne net— his personal police protection from the met police. and another to— from the met police. and another to review— from the met police. and another one to review the— from the met police. and another one to review the decision to neuset — one to review the decision to neuset to — one to review the decision to refuse to allow— one to review the decision to refuse to allow him to pay for tnot— refuse to allow him to pay for tnot. notice— refuse to allow him to pay for that. police protect ian now, tne— that. police protect ian now, tne one— that. police protect ian now, tne tnot— that. police protect ian now, the one that is— that. police protect ian now, the one that is going to full tnot— the one that is going to full tnioi tnot— the one that is going to full trial that is— the one that is going to full trial that is going to a iuticioi— trial that is going to a judicial review is the review of the judicial review is the review of tne tecision— judicial review is the review of the decision to— judicial review is the review of the decision to withdraw police protection— the decision to withdraw police protection completely. this case totoy— protection completely. this case totoy, tnis— protection completely. this case today, this preliminary hearing, is otout— today, this preliminary hearing, is otout wno— today, this preliminary hearing, is about who pays for that. notice— is about who pays for that. police protect— is about who pays for that. police protect ian. now, it was oniy— police protect ian. now, it was oniy neont— police protect ian. now, it was onty neont to— police protect ian. now, it was only meant to last— police protect ian. now, it was only meant to last one hour totoy— only meant to last one hour totoy. ant— only meant to last one hour today. and then— only meant to last one hour today. and then at the end of it we going— today. and then at the end of it we were going to— today. and then at the end of it we were going to get a iutgenent— we were going to get a judgement. it's actually lasted all judgement. it's actually lasted oti toy.— judgement. it's actually lasted oti toy. iney-we— judgement. it's actually lasted all day. they've adjourned all day. they've now adjourned for all day. they've now adjourned ton—tugge- for the day and the judge, yustice— for the day and the judge, justice chamberlain, has said tnot— justice chamberlain, has said no tnene— justice chamberlain, has said that there will— justice chamberlain, has said that there will decision that there will be a decision posset— that there will be a decision posset-in— that there will be a decision passed-in due- that there will be a decision passed in due course about passed down in due course about wnetnen— passed down in due course about wnetnen-wiii— passed down in due course about whether-will-a- passed down in due course about whether-will-a full. whether that will go to a full oute— whether that will go to a full duke judicial— whether that will go to a full duke judicial review or not. totoy— duke judicial review or not. totoy-neont- duke judicial review or not. - today,-heard-lawyers today, we've heard from lawyers ,-none— today, we've heard from lawyers ,-none-iowyensi , from the home office, lawyers tron— , from the home office, lawyers from - metropolitan - , from the home office, lawyers from metropolitan and from the metropolitan police and iowyens— from the metropolitan police and iowyenslrnince— from the metropolitan police and lawyers prince harry lawyers for prince harry snoneet,— lawyers for prince harry shaheed, fatima , kc for prince shaheed, fatima, kc for prince worry,— shaheed, fatima, kc for prince nonry, onguing— shaheed, fatima, kc for prince harry, arguing that the decision

by harry, arguing that the decision ty tne— harry, arguing that the decision by tne none— harry, arguing that the decision by the home office not to allow nin— by the home office not to allow trim to— by the home office not to allow trim to poy— by the home office not to allow trim to poy ton— by the home office not to allow him to pay for that— by the home office not to allow him to pay for that police protection— him to pay for that police protection makes no sense. and it goes— protection makes no sense. and it goes beyond— protection makes no sense. and it goes beyond their remit. she otso— it goes beyond their remit. she oiso soit— it goes beyond their remit. she oiso soit it— it goes beyond their remit. she also said it was— it goes beyond their remit. she also said it was inconceivable tnot— also said it was inconceivable tnot witn— also said it was inconceivable tnot witn o— also said it was inconceivable that with a specific law that oiiows— that with a specific law that oiiows tne— that with a specific law that allows the chief— that with a specific law that allows the chief officer of the poiice— allows the chief officer of the poiice in— allows the chief officer of the police in this— allows the chief officer of the police in this case, the met poiice— police in this case, the met police commissioner, to provide specioi— police commissioner, to provide speciot poiice— police commissioner, to provide special police services subject to-ont— special police services subject to-ont tnot- special police services subject to-and that the- to payment, and that the tecision— to payment, and that the decision should never have been token— decision should never have been toten ty— decision should never have been toten ty tne— decision should never have been taken by the committee that toots— taken by the committee that toots-tnese— taken by the committee that. looks .these _called looks after these things called itoec — looks after these things called itoec _nowe- looks after these things called ravec. - have been . looks after these things called ravec. have been made ravec. it should have been made by ravec. it should have been made toy-wet— ravec. it should have been made toy-wet poiice— ravec. it should have been made by met police commissioner. by the met police commissioner. sne— by the met police commissioner. sne-soit— by the met police commissioner. sne-soit tnot— by the met police commissioner. she-said that there- by the met police commissioner. she said that there was no she also said that there was no opponunity— she also said that there was no opponunity ton— she also said that there was no opportunity for prince harry to note— opportunity for prince harry to make representations to that committee— committee before they made their tecision— committee before they made their tecision .— committee before they made their tecision . we— committee before they made their decision . we then— committee before they made their decision . we then heard from the decision. we then heard from the iowyen— decision. we then heard from the lawyer representing the home ortice— lawyer representing the home ortice tnot— lawyer representing the home office that was— lawyer representing the home office that was robert palmer, wno— office that was robert palmer, wno soto— office that was robert palmer, who said that— office that was robert palmer, who said that individual police protection— who said that individual police protection is— who said that individual police protection is different from wnen— protection is different from when organisations pay for the poiice— when organisations pay for the poiice to— when organisations pay for the police to provide— when organisations pay for the police to provide security for puttic— police to provide security for public events— police to provide security for public events such as football notcnes— public events such as football notcnes on— public events such as football matches or or— public events such as football matches or or concerts. he said tnot— matches or or concerts. he said no tnis— matches or or concerts. he said that this kind— matches or or concerts. he said that this kind of— matches or or concerts. he said that this kind of specialist poticing— that this kind of specialist poticing ,— that this kind of specialist policing , providing protection policing, providing protection for individuals— policing, providing protection for individuals ,— policing, providing protection for individuals , it requires for individuals, it requires speciotist— for individuals, it requires specialist officers with tocticoi— specialist officers with tactical skills that are only

teptoyet— tactical skills that are only teptoyet ty— tactical skills that are only deployed by the committee that tecites— deployed by the committee that tecites on— deployed by the committee that decides on this— deployed by the committee that decides on this thing. the committee— decides on this thing. the committee known as ravec. he otso— committee known as ravec. he oiso soto— committee known as ravec. he also said that— committee known as ravec. he also said that they decided who gets— also said that they decided who gets protected— also said that they decided who gets protected based on public interest— gets protected based on public interest ,— gets protected based on public interest , tne— gets protected based on public interest , the risk— gets protected based on public interest , the risk to individual interest, the risk to individual ont— interest, the risk to individual ont oount— interest, the risk to individual and amount of— interest, the risk to individual and amount of resources, but not the willingness— and amount of resources, but not the willingness of— and amount of resources, but not the willingness of the individual— the willingness of the individual to fund the policing . rniwoteiy— individual to fund the policing . privately this— individual to fund the policing . privately this afternoon we neont— . privately this afternoon we neont tron — . privately this afternoon we heard from matthew, but he was the heard from matthew, but he was tne iowyen— heard from matthew, but he was the lawyer representing the metropolitan _ the lawyer representing the metropolitan police. he said tnot— metropolitan police. he said no it— metropolitan police. he said no it con-t— metropolitan police. he said that it can't be— metropolitan police. he said that it can't be right that otticens— that it can't be right that officers are— that it can't be right that officers are expected to present tnenseiwes— officers are expected to present themselves and _ officers are expected to present themselves and expose themselves to tnot— themselves and expose themselves to no iewei— themselves and expose themselves to that level of— themselves and expose themselves to that level of unique risk, not— to that level of unique risk, not in— to that level of unique risk, not in tne— to that level of unique risk, not in the public interest, but tecouse— not in the public interest, but because policing— not in the public interest, but because policing body is to be tinoncioiiy— because policing body is to be financially compensated and that providing— financially compensated and that pnowiting onet— financially compensated and that providing armed police officers to tnose— providing armed police officers to tnose wno— providing armed police officers to those who pay— providing armed police officers to those who pay would divert resources from _ to those who pay would divert resources from those who warrant protection. — resources from those who warrant protection. ant— resources from those who warrant protection. and it— resources from those who warrant protection. and it also creates a protection. and it also creates o pnecetent— protection. and it also creates a precedent in— protection. and it also creates a precedent in which other weoitny— a precedent in which other wealthy individuals may be other nign— wealthy individuals may be other nign pnotiie— wealthy individuals may be other high profile individuals could ongue— high profile individuals could ongue tnot— high profile individuals could argue that they,— high profile individuals could argue that they, too should be permitted— argue that they, too should be pennittet to — argue that they, too should be permitted to pay— argue that they, too should be permitted to pay for such services. — permitted to pay for such services. so _ permitted to pay for such services. so we've heard competing— services. so we've heard competing arguments from both sites— competing arguments from both sites ont— competing arguments from both sites ont o— competing arguments from both sides and a judgement will now be posset— sides and a judgement will now be passed down— sides and a judgement will now be passed down in— sides and a judgement will now be passed down in due course .

be passed down in due course. onoy.— be passed down in due course. otoy. so— be passed down in due course. otoy. so tnot— be passed down in due course. okay. so that was— be passed down in due course. okay. so that was paul- be passed down in due course. okay. so that was paul hawkins , okay. so that was paul hawkins, of course, that's how the royal courts of justice now prince harry it, not the harry wants it, not the taxpayer, to pay for his protection, which initially you think , oh, great, okay, but he think, oh, great, okay, but he wants to be able to pay out of his own pocket so that police officers who could well be patrolling the streets of britain, keeping you and i safe, the taxpayers safe to be looking after him . instead, i wanted to after him. instead, i wanted to speak to a taxpayer . at least speak to a taxpayer. at least i hope he is. otherwise, hmrc are going to be knocking door going to be knocking on his door soon they soon about whether or not they feel the right feel that this is the right thing to do. joining me now is gb is leigh harris. gb news viewer is leigh harris. leigh thank you very much. as an ordinary the public, ordinary member of the public, leigh, pays leigh, as somebody who pays their taxes, fingers crossed, who their and part who pays their taxes, and part of of course, goes to the of that, of course, goes to the police. got bit police. and we've got a bit of a law and order crisis at the moment. you about moment. how do you feel about prince basically saying, moment. how do you feel about princeon, basically saying, moment. how do you feel about princeon, letbasically saying, moment. how do you feel about princeon, let me cally saying, moment. how do you feel about princeon, let me pay' saying, moment. how do you feel about princeon, let me pay' sajme, moment. how do you feel about princeon, let me pay' sajme hire come on, let me pay let me hire the met? yeah, you're absolutely otgnt,— the met? yeah, you're absolutely otgnt-i— the met? yeah, you're absolutely otgnt-i to— the met? yeah, you're absolutely otgnt-i to poy- the met? yeah, you're absolutely right-l do pay my- right, patrick. i do pay my toes — right, patrick. i do pay my toes -o— right, patrick. i do pay my taxes-a business. right, patrick. i do pay my. taxes-a business. so, taxes. i run a business. so, yeah, i'm glad to admit that. but you suggested but no, as you suggested earlier, patrick, it's the

height arrogance . that's how height of arrogance. that's how i it personally. bloke i take it personally. the bloke is completely detached from reality. longer reality. he's no longer a member, a working member of the royal family and rich people should not be allowed to privately pay to hire the police. you know, i think that's an principle. you an important principle. you can't private individuals can't have private individuals paying can't have private individuals paying for armed police officers to follow them around. that's clearly ridiculous . prince harry clearly ridiculous. prince harry clearly ridiculous. prince harry clearly more clearly thinks he's more important than he actually is. patrick, there is an argument to say patrick, there is an argument to soy tnot— patrick, there is an argument to soy pig, you— patrick, there is an argument to say that, you know, this is a pniwitege— say that, you know, this is a privilege that— say that, you know, this is a privilege that he— say that, you know, this is a privilege that he gave up when he privilege that he gave up when ne tecitet— privilege that he gave up when he decided to— privilege that he gave up when he decided to leave this country,— he decided to leave this country, settle - he decided to leave this country, settle down in california— country, settle down in california or- country, settle down in california or wherever he is, ont— california or wherever he is, ont tnosn— california or wherever he is, ont tnosn is— california or wherever he is, and trash is on— california or wherever he is, and trash is on the way out as weii. — and trash is on the way out as weii. anu— and trash is on the way out as well. and he's— and trash is on the way out as well. and he's maybe- and trash is on the way out as well. ' t: " well. and he's maybe even brought some of the threat on himself with his book spare , himself with his book spare, essentially managing to incite . essentially managing to incite. right. the old islamist brigade after he revealed how many taliban fighters he'd killed . i taliban fighters he'd killed. i was going to make that exact point. you know, i was going to say,— point. you know, i was going to soy, its— point. you know, i was going to soy, it-s otso— point. you know, i was going to say, it's also worth— you know, i was going to say, it's also worth pointing out— say, it's also worth pointing out tnot— say, it's also worth pointing out that they— say, it's also worth pointing out that they decided to keep tnein— out that they decided to keep tnein coyot— out that they decided to keep their royal titles— out that they decided to keep their royal titles and milk every— their royal titles and milk

ewery singte— their royal titles and milk every single penny out of it and tnen— every single penny out of it and then dedicate— every single penny out of it and then dedicate their time to tnosning— then dedicate their time to tnosning tne— then dedicate their time to trashing the reputation of their toniiy— trashing the reputation of their own family and— trashing the reputation of their own family and the entire country.— own family and the entire country. rou— own family and the entire country. you know, they country. you know, if they neoiiy— country. you know, if they really dislike— country. you know, if they really dislike the royal family and really dislike the royal family ont coyot— really dislike the royal family and royal life— really dislike the royal family and royal life so— really dislike the royal family and royal life so much, they couit— and royal life so much, they couit nowe— and royal life so much, they could have ditched their titles ont— could have ditched their titles ont guietiy— could have ditched their titles and quietly slipped away into the and quietly slipped away into tne—ont- and quietly slipped away into the—and done- the background and done sonetning— the background and done something out of the something else out of the spottignt— something else out of the spotlightiand- something else out of the spotlight and you rightly spotlight. and as you rightly say,— spotlight. and as you rightly soy-prototy— spotlight. and as you rightly say, probably wouldn't need say, he probably wouldn't need as say, he probably wouldn't need os-secunity— say, he probably wouldn't need as-securitylhe- say, he probably wouldn't need as security he that as much security if he did that .-pune— as much security if he did that .-pure arrogance,- as much security if he did that . pure arrogance, but . it's just pure arrogance, but iust— . it's just pure arrogance, but iust iust— . it's just pure arrogance, but iust iust guictiy— . it's just pure arrogance, but just just quickly, lee, you know,— just just quickly, lee, you know,-walk- just just quickly, lee, you know, walk the streets and know, you walk the streets and your— know, you walk the streets and your ciose— know, you walk the streets and your close ones— know, you walk the streets and your close ones walk the streets ont— your close ones walk the streets one-seeing— your close ones walk the streets and-seeing-crimel and we are seeing knife crime rising. — and we are seeing knife crime rising. were— and we are seeing knife crime rising. we're seeing- and we are seeing knife crime rising. ash; ”it; g , rising. we're seeing violent crime apparently going up. et cetera. presumably would crime apparently going up. et ceter.all presumably would crime apparently going up. et ceter.all your'esumably would crime apparently going up. et ceter.all your tax mably would crime apparently going up. et ceter.all your tax payers would crime apparently going up. et ceter.all your tax payers money ld want all your tax payers money that's to go to the that's designed to go to the police, to go to people who are going protecting you. you going to be protecting you. you quite right. and it is. and tnot-s— quite right. and it is. and was ponty— quite right. and it is. and that's partly why the arrogance comes-because— that's partly why the arrogance comes because obviously comes out, because he obviously tsn-t— comes out, because he obviously isn-t tninting— comes out, because he obviously isn't thinking through that. inot-s— isn't thinking through that. inot-s going— isn't thinking through that. that's going you know, that's going to, you know, twent— that's going to, you know, tiwent-owoy- divert resources away from puttic— divert resources away from pubic-.- divert resources away from puttic-. ant- divert resources away from public . and this is divert resources away from. public-. and this is a public policing. and this is a tecision— public policing. and this is a decision that— public policing. and this is a decision that they made themselves— decision that they made themselves you know, they were tott— themselves you know, they were toit tnot— themselves you know, they were told that this— themselves you know, they were told that this would be a consequence— told that this would be a consequence of the decision that tney— consequence of the decision that tney nnote. — consequence of the decision that tney note. tney— consequence of the decision that they made. they knew full well tnot— they made. they knew full well no tnot— they made. they knew full well no tnot-going— they made. they knew full well that that going happen.

that that was going to happen. ant— that that was going to happen. ant-ne— that that was going to happen. and-he doesn't-it- that that was going to happen. and he doesn't it . that that was going to happen.. and-he doesn't-it . all and now he doesn't like it. all right.— and now he doesn't like it. all rigntlttont— and now he doesn't like it. all right,-thank you- and now he doesn't like it. all right, thank you much. right, lee, thank you very much. always after always a pleasure. look after yourself. there, who yourself. lee harris there, who is a gb viewer, because is a gb news viewer, because i wanted to speak to ordinary people is ordinary people because it is ordinary people because it is ordinary people walking the streets who will potentially, potentially people walking the streets who will piifentially, potentially people walking the streets who will piifentiallbasicallyally people walking the streets who will piifentiallbasically hires suffer if harry basically hires the or hires whatever the met police or hires whatever police force is. and, you police force it is. and, you know, someone's getting police force it is. and, you know, overmeone's getting police force it is. and, you know, over there, 's getting police force it is. and, you know, over there, sorry. :ing police force it is. and, you know, over there, sorry. no, murdered over there, sorry. no, we we've got we can't go to that. we've got we've got prince harry over here and he's paid us. i mean, i don't want to live in that kind of country. tory has of country. anyway, tory mp has made very controversial made some very controversial comments about marriage and why it's the only basis as they see it's the only basis as they see it for a safe and functioning society . they manage offend society. they manage to offend same sex couples, but also some people who've been trapped in a variety of relationships. i am asking , though, is divorce rates asking, though, is divorce rates absolute ? absolutely spiked. so absolute? absolutely spiked. so basically you get married basically if you get married now, there's a chance of now, there's a 5050 chance of a acrimonious divorce . i'll ask acrimonious divorce. i'll ask you, though, should you just stay together of stay together for the sake of the kids? patrick christys the kids? i'm patrick christys on britain's

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" the sake of themselves. this is the sake of themselves. this is the oniy— the sake of themselves. this is the only possible basis for a safe and successful society . safe and successful society. well, there we go. he went on to say well, there we go. he went on to soy tnot— well, there we go. he went on to say that marriage— well, there we go. he went on to say that marriage is— �*ft�*tzez "rzz gtzt he went on to say that marriage is something tnot— say that marriage is something no you— say that marriage is something that you undertake for the good of that you undertake for the good ot witen— that you undertake for the good of wider society. _ that you undertake for the good of wider society. does he have a pointe— of wider society. does he have a points-peopie— of wider society. does he have a point? people getting point? are people getting noniet— point? are people getting- married—flippantly married on a whim, flippantly winging— bringing kids into the equation and bringing kids into the equation one—up- bringing kids into the equation ont—up e- bringing kids into the equation ont—up eantl bringing kids into the equation ont—up eitnt isi bringing kids into the equation and wrong up ? and is bringing kids into the equation and wrong or up? and is bringing kids into the equation and wrong or actually? and is bringing kids into the equation and wrong or actually ispnd is bringing kids into the equation and wrong or actually is that; that wrong or actually is that gutte— that wrong or actually is that quite offensive— that wrong or actually is that quite offensive what he's just soite— quite offensive what he's just soite tn— quite offensive what he's just said? i'm joined— quite offensive what he's just said? i'm joined now by iounnoiist— said? i'm joined now by. journalist—and journalist julie cooke and broadcaster—

broadcaster and psychotherapist iizzie—youl lizzie barras for both of you, wont— lizzie barras for both of you, tnont-wery— lizzie barras for both of you, thank very much. we'll start thank you very much. we'll start witn—it— thank you very much. we'll start witn—it tnot-s- thank you very much. we'll start with-if that's all- with you, julie, if that's all nignt— with you, julie, if that's all nigntlwnot— with you, julie, if that's all right what make of with you, julie, if that's all- rightiwhat-make of his right. what do you make of his of right. what do you make of his ot nis— right. what do you make of his of his comments— right. what do you make of his of his comments here? do you tnint— of his comments here? do you tnint tnot— of his comments here? do you tnint no you— of his comments here? do you think that you should just stay togetnen— think that you should just stay together basically for the sake of together basically for the sake ot tne — together basically for the sake ot tne tits— together basically for the sake of the kids, no— together basically for the sake of the kids, no matter what? wett— of the kids, no matter what? weii i— of the kids, no matter what? weii i ton-t— of the kids, no matter what? well i don't see— of the kids, no matter what? well i don't see why there's teen— well i don't see why there's been so— well i don't see why there's been so much— well i don't see why there's been so much outrage at what he soto— been so much outrage at what he soit. — been so much outrage at what he said. personally,— been so much outrage at what he said. personally, i— been so much outrage at what he said. personally, i do- been so much outrage at what he said. i:izi "

see why. what he said has been taken with such outrage. yeah, i think one of the angles- taken with such outrage. yeah, i think one of the angles on- z but 3 yeah, i think one of the angles on it tnot— think one of the angles on it that outraged— think one of the angles on it that outraged people is i think he that outraged people is i think ne soto— that outraged people is i think ne soit non— that outraged people is i think he said man and— that outraged people is i think he said man and woman didn't he? and he said man and woman didn't he? ant oiwiousiy— he said man and woman didn't he? and obviously we— he said man and woman didn't he? and obviously we have same sex coupies— and obviously we have same sex coupies-so— and obviously we have same sex couples-so there's- and obviously we have same sex couples so there's that couples today. so there's that site— couples today. so there's that site ot— couples today. so there's that site ot it.— couples today. so there's that side of it. but— couples today. so there's that side of it. but lucy, i'll bring you— side of it. but lucy, i'll bring you in— side of it. but lucy, i'll bring you in no— side of it. but lucy, i'll bring you in now. when— side of it. but lucy, i'll bring you in now. when at the you in now. when i look at the divorce— you in now. when i look at the divorce rates,— you in now. when i look at the divorce rates, roughly speaking, a divorce rates, roughly speaking, ososo— divorce rates, roughly speaking, ososo-ot— divorce rates, roughly speaking, otoso-ot you- divorce rates, roughly speaking, a 5050 of you getting a 5050 chance of you getting tiwoice— a 5050 chance of you getting divorce once _ a 5050 chance of you getting. divorce once—married divorce once you've got married to-tnot— divorce once you've got married to-tnot tnot-s— divorce once you've got married to-that that's a— divorce once you've got married to-that that's a big- divorce once you've got married to that that's a big problem. to me that that's a big problem. tnot— to me that that's a big problem. that indicates— to me that that's a big problem. that indicates to— to me that that's a big problem. that indicates to me that people are that indicates to me that people oeon—t- that indicates to me that people oeon—t tneie- are just giving up and there nignt— are just giving up and there might collateral are just giving up and there might-collateral in might be collateral damage in were.— might be collateral damage in ttene-couit- might be collateral damage in there.-could-tol there. and that could help to preoc— there. and that could help to break _fabric- there. and that could help to break-fabric of- break down the fabric of society. — break down the fabric of society. -you i break down the fabric of. society.-you think? break down the fabric of- society.-you think? well society. what do you think? well wett— society. what do you think? well wat, i— society. what do you think? well wat, i wos— society. what do you think? well well, i was actually i'm here at tne— well, i was actually i'm here at tne wotionoi— well, i was actually i'm here at the national conservatism conference _ the national conservatism conference right now. : conference right now. i heard the speech— conference right now. i heard the speech live yesterday, and that was the one bit of it that really gave me cause for concern. i think a lot of what danny kruger was saying about the society and how the fabric of society and how it's unravelling is a very interesting but the problem interesting one. but the problem is wnot— interesting one. but the problem is what-message- interesting one. but the problem is what-message does. interesting one. but the problem is what-message does iti is what kind of message does it sent— is what kind of message does it sentlyoui— is what kind of message does it send .your children - is what kind of message does it send your children you send to your children if you stoy— send to your children if you stoy in— send to your children if you stoy in on— send to your children if you stay in an unhappy marriage and i stay in an unhappy marriage and itnint— stay in an unhappy marriage and i tnint its— stay in an unhappy marriage and i think it's fair— stay in an unhappy marriage and i think it's fair to— stay in an unhappy marriage and i think it's fair to acknowledge tnot— i think it's fair to acknowledge tnot w-wee— i think it's fair to acknowledge that we've done— i think it's fair to acknowledge that we've done a— i think it's fair to acknowledge that we've done a lot of work tne— that we've done a lot of work tne post— that we've done a lot of work over the past few— that we've done a lot of work over the past few decades to octnowietge — over the past few decades to acknowledge there are acknowledge that there are nnoinoesg— acknowledge that there are marriages that— acknowledge that there are marriages that toxic, that

marriages that are toxic, that are unhealthy— marriages that are toxic, that are unhealthy ,— marriages that are toxic, that are unhealthy , and that are unhealthy, and that people ougnt—to- are unhealthy, and that people ougnt—to nnowe| are unhealthy, and that people. ought—to move on ought to be allowed to move on ont— ought to be allowed to move on ont to— ought to be allowed to move on and to sometimes— ought to be allowed to move on and to sometimes escape from a very— and to sometimes escape from a very unneottny— and to sometimes escape from a very unhealthy situation. . very unhealthy situation. it unsettieo— very unhealthy situation. it unsettled me— very unhealthy situation. it unsettled me for— very unhealthy situation. it unsettled me for two - very unhealthy situation. it unsettled me for two reasons. one, for that that actually it nignt— one, for that that actually it might encourage people to think i've might encourage people to think we got— might encourage people to think we got to— might encourage people to think i've got to stick— might encourage people to think i've got to stick it— might encourage people to think i've got to stick it out, even tnougn— i've got to stick it out, even tnougn tne— i've got to stick it out, even though the effect on my mental neoitn— though the effect on my mental neoitn is— though the effect on my mental health is traumatic and well tone— health is traumatic and well tone toi— health is traumatic and well tone ton you— health is traumatic and well done for you, for— health is traumatic and well done for you, for all the work tnot— done for you, for all the work tnot-wews— done for you, for all the work that- news are - done for you, for all the work that news are doing on that you gb news are doing on oout— that you gb news are doing on around mental— that you gb news are doing on around mental why around mental health. so why woutt— around mental health. so why wouit you— around mental health. so why woutt you not— around mental health. so why would you not promote a situotion— would you not promote a situation where getting out of an situation where getting out of on unneottny— situation where getting out of an unhealthy marriage would be a positive— an unhealthy marriage would be a positive tninge — an unhealthy marriage would be a positive thing? but— an unhealthy marriage would be a positive thing? f: positive thing? but secondly, monogamy is a very interesting concept. some monogamy is a very interesting concept . some research from concept. some research from itsniey— concept. some research from ashley madison,— ff some research from ashley madison, the marriage toting— ashley madison, the marriage dating website— ashley madison, the marriage dating website people has shown that dating website people has shown no noe— dating website people has shown no ont— dating website people has shown that more and more people are octuoiiy— that more and more people are actually interested a non actually interested in a non noogoic— actually interested in a non monogamic position that actually tney— monogamic position that actually tney wont— monogamic position that actually tney wont to— monogamic position that actually they want to have— monogamic position that actually they want to have a situation wneie— they want to have a situation wneie tne— they want to have a situation where the relationship is freed up toi— where the relationship is freed up for different— where the relationship is freed up for different energy, different _ up for different energy, different experiences . and if different experiences. and if youie— different experiences. and if you're thinking— different experiences. and if you're thinking about marriage as you're thinking about marriage os sonetning— you're thinking about marriage as something that could for as something that could last for 80 as something that could last for so yeos— as something that could last for so yes to— as something that could last for so yes to we— as something that could last for 80 years, do we really expect tnot— 80 years, do we really expect no peopte — 80 years, do we really expect that people are— 80 years, do we really expect that people are going to stay noniet— that people are going to stay noiiiet toi— that people are going to stay married for that— that people are going to stay married for that length of time wnen— married for that length of time wnen tney— married for that length of time when they sometimes grow apart? they— when they sometimes grow apart? tney-tne— when they sometimes grow apart? tney-tne-peopie- they are not the same people that were their 20s or that they were in their 20s or

30s. julie made a sorry, 30s. julie you made a sorry, iucy— 30s. julie you made a sorry, iucy, you— 30s. julie you made a sorry, iucy, you note— 30s. julie you made a sorry, lucy, you made a— 1505 julie you made a sorry, lucy, you made a lot of great points— lucy, you made a lot of great points were— lucy, you made a lot of great points there and— lucy, you made a lot of great points there and fantastic. points there and it's fantastic. in — points there and it's fantastic. i'm _wi— points there and it's fantastic. in _go toct- points there and it's fantastic. i'm _go back .julie. i'm going to go back to julie now just quickly now on this one, just quickly and you know, are and just say, you know, are there some good , good there not some good, good elements that which is elements to that there, which is a child could well be end up being if they're being worse off if they're living with parents at living in a home with parents at each other's throats all day, every . yes each other's throats all day, every .yes i each other's throats all day, every . yes i think if you're every day. yes i think if you're in o— every day. yes i think if you're in o toxic— every day. yes i think if you're in a toxic relationship- iz;iiz;”«i an? t/iztzfi i think if you're in a toxic relationship where were— in a toxic relationship where tneie is— in a toxic relationship where there is abuse,— in a toxic relationship where there is abuse, of course, but, you— there is abuse, of course, but, you know,— there is abuse, of course, but, you know, tne— there is abuse, of course, but, you know, the mbappe we're toiting— you know, the mbappe we're talking about,— you know, the mbappe we're talking about, he didn't octuoiiy— talking about, he didn't actually say— talking about, he didn't actually say that. he didn't say every— actually say that. he didn't say every toty— actually say that. he didn't say every body should— actually say that. he didn't say every body should stay together in nonioge— every body should stay together in nonioge .— every body should stay together in marriage . what he said was, in marriage. what he said was, if in marriage. what he said was, it you— in marriage. what he said was, it you iisten— in marriage. what he said was, if you listen, he— in marriage. what he said was, if you listen, he was actually soying— if you listen, he was actually soying ne— if you listen, he was actually soying ne wos— if you listen, he was actually saying he was actually complimenting people who stick witn— complimenting people who stick witn-nonioge.— complimenting people who stick with marriage. was giving with the marriage. he was giving some-ot— with the marriage. he was giving some-or tutos— with the marriage. he was giving some -of kudos to - with the marriage. he was giving some of kudos to people who some kind of kudos to people who stick— some kind of kudos to people who stict witn— some kind of kudos to people who stict witn tne — some kind of kudos to people who stick with the marriage, because i stick with the marriage, because i—nonent- stick with the marriage, because i—nonent in- stick with the marriage, because i_moment in our. i think at the moment in our society,— i think at the moment in our society, marriage— i think at the moment in our society, marriage the family i think at the moment in our so almostiarriage the family i think at the moment in our so almost kind ge the family i think at the moment in our soalmost kind of the family i think at the moment in our soalmost kind of ridiculed amily i think at the moment in our soalmost kind of ridiculed andy is almost kind of ridiculed and it's is almost kind of ridiculed and its tint— is almost kind of ridiculed and its tint ot— is almost kind of ridiculed and it's kind of seen— is almost kind of ridiculed and it's kind of seen as the safe, toning— it's kind of seen as the safe, toning option.— it's kind of seen as the safe, boring option. it's too traditional. - boring option. it's too traditional. it's what we've boring option. it's too traditio done, 's what we've boring option. it's too traditio done, buthat we've boring option. it's too traditio done, but we'vee've boring option. it's too traditio done, but we've always always done, but we've always tone—its— always done, but we've always done _it's worked. . done it because it's worked. its— done it because it's worked. its woitet— done it because it's worked. it's worked for— done it because it's worked. it's worked for hundreds and nuntiets— it's worked for hundreds and- hundreds—years hundreds and thousands of years . a hundreds and thousands of years . it toniiy— hundreds and thousands of years .it toniiy-is— hundreds and thousands of years . a family-is there- hundreds and thousands of years . a family is there to keep . a family unit is there to keep your— . a family unit is there to keep your cniitien— . a family unit is there to keep your children -to - . a family unit is there to keep your children to give your your children safe, to give your cniitien— your children safe, to give your cniitien on— your children safe, to give your children on both— your children safe, to give your children on both of a of

children on both sides of a of a eiotionstip— children on both sides of a of a relationship, you— children on both sides of a of a relationship, you know, father, notnei— relationship, you know, father, notnei oi— relationship, you know, father, mother or two _ relationship, you know, father, mother or two fathers or two notneis. — mother or two fathers or two notneis. tn— mother or two fathers or two mothers. i'm not— mother or two fathers or two mothers. i'm not disputing that. but mothers. i'm not disputing that. out iust— mothers. i'm not disputing that. out iust giving— mothers. i'm not disputing that. but just giving them that safety _cone to- but just giving them that safety ,_come to . home i , that nest to come to. home att— , that nest to come to. home sit right.— , that nest to come to. home all right. look,— , that nest to come to. home all right. look, both- , that nest to come to. home all right. look, both of- , that nest to come to. home all right. look, both of you, thank you very much. and, lizzie, i'm sorry i can't go back to you. i'm out of back to you. i'm bang out of time, afraid. i hope to time, i'm afraid. but i hope to chat both very, chat to you both again very, very soon. it was julie cooke, journalist and broadcaster and psychotherapist lucy beresford. whether or not you should just stay of stay together for the sake of the kids. staggering update ladies gone ladies and gents, we've now gone past £33,207. there's been a late flurry on the old justgiving page justgiving.com/fundraising/challenge christie's i am trying to raise for money the mental health charity mind. i will be taking my kit off on stage with the dream humiliating myself dream boys humiliating myself and what's and quite possibly ending what's left career in the left of my career in the process. but it's all for good process. but it's all for a good cause. dewberry cause. michelle dewberry joins me what's on the me now. michelle, what's on the agenda? grand, nearly agenda? three grand, 30, nearly 33.5 is flying up. is that the most tnot-s— 33.5 is flying up. is that the most that's ever— 33.5 is flying up. is that the most that's ever been- 15:55 g e. is that the most that's ever been paid for? a poii— most that's ever been paid for? a poii ot— most that's ever been paid for? a poii ot non— most that's ever been paid for? a pair of man boobs. thank you for that. that means the world to me. what though? i've to me. what is it, though? i've never people never looked into what people pay— never looked into what people poy toi— never looked into what people poy ton o— never looked into what people pay for a physique like that. wett— pay for a physique like that. wow i— pay for a physique like that. wow i nowe— pay for a physique like that. well, i have actually- pay for a physique like that.

well, i have actually gone from 15 stone 8 to 13 stone. oh, have you? is that good? i don't neoiiy— you? is that good? i don't neotty know— izi.7 is that good? i don't really know much 7 is that good? i don't really know much about men's wett— really know much about men's wear. well, it's. _ really know much about men's wear. well, it's. well,- really know much about men's wear. o o wear. well, it's. well, it's significant less isn't it i guess. buti significant less isn't it i guess. but i must say i don't neoiiy— guess. but i must say i don't neoiiy i— guess. but i must say i don't neoiiy i to— guess. but i must say i don't really i do wear— 3 but i must say i don't really i do wear based on. jizi really i do wear based on. do my ciotnes— really i do wear based on. do my ciottes tit. — really i do wear based on. do my clothes fit. yes— really i do wear based on. do my clothes fit. yes or— really i do wear based on. do my clothes fit. yes or no. so i'm not very good knowing like not very good at knowing like kilogram stones. should kilogram stones. what should i be? what shouldn't i be? but do you feel good? all right. you've got otout— you feel good? all right. you've got otout oos— you feel good? all right. you've got about 30s to— you feel good? all right. you've got about 30s to tell— ”iziz. 3:7 all right. you've got about 30s to tell us what's coming— got about 30s to tell us what's coming-on.— got about 30s to tell us what's coming-oh, well,- got about 30s to tell us what's coming o" e. got about 30s to tell us what's. coming-oh, well, you'll have coming up. oh, well, you'll have to tune in. i've got loads of questions— " i've got loads of questions everybody. ii”; to tune in. i've got loads of- questions.everybody. why are questions for everybody. why are we—ionoioios- questions for everybody. why are we landlords unfair we demonising landlords unfair albie to soft we demonising landlords unfair allall to soft we demonising landlords unfair allall of to soft we demonising landlords unfair allall of these to soft we demonising landlords unfair allall of these kids? to soft we demonising landlords unfair allall of these kids? you to soft we demonising landlords unfair allall of these kids? you know, t on all of these kids? you know, sciopping— on all of these kids? you know, sciopping eons— on all of these kids? you know, scrapping exams people want to on all of these kids? you know, scrnow1g exams people want to on all of these kids? you know, scr now . exams people want to on all of these kids? you know, scrnow . ' i: is people want to on all of these kids? you know, scrnow . ' i: tople want to on all of these kids? you know, scr now . ' i: s�*iziwiiivant to on all of these kids? you know, scrnow . ' i: to on all of these kids? you know, scr now . ' z“ do now. and you know this nation of people with mental health issues . worry it. food issues. i worry about it. food pnces issues. i worry about it. food prices want to get into that taxes . what are the tories taxes. what are the tories doing? they're supposed to be low and it's carnage at low taxes and it's carnage at the moment. and multiculturalism as well. is it a recipe for disaster? great. that sounds tite— disaster? great. that sounds iite on— disaster? great. that sounds like an absolute— i: 7 great. that sounds like an absolute firecracker of a like an absolute firecracker of o snow. — like an absolute firecracker of o snow. note— like an absolute firecracker of a show. make sure you keep your eyes— a show. make sure you keep your eyes ont— a show. make sure you keep your eyes ont eos— a show. make sure you keep your eyes and ears peeled for dewbs & eyes and ears peeled for dewbs& co eyes and ears peeled for dewbs& co—toiiow— eyes and ears peeled for dewbs& co—toiiow ne- co which will follow me immediately— co which will follow me immediately next co which will follow me- immediately-next hour. immediately for the next hour. twe— immediately for the next hour. i-we—cniistys- immediately for the next hour. i've—christys seei i've been patrick christys see tomorrow- hello -

i've been patrick christys see tomorrow hello i'm tomorrow at three. hello i'm atex— tomorrow at three. hello i'm alex deakin. _ tomorrow at three. hello i'm alex deakin. this- tomorrow at three. hello i'm alex deakin. " ” alex deakin. this is your latest weather from met weather update from the met office gb news. another office for gb news. another chilly ish start tomorrow, but another fine day. by and large , another fine day. by and large, there'll be a few showers scattered around, but most places dry because this places will be dry because this large area of high pressure has been ambling in the weather fronts, just threatening to topple in. they'll bring a bit more cloud and rain to more cloud and some rain to northern scotland during tomorrow. and there are a few showers around this evening. still over of northeast still over parts of northeast england and they'll steadily fade through the evening. so most places becoming dry after midnight. spells for midnight. clear spells for wales, northern ireland, a good part of scotland and across the south. that will allow south. and that will allow temperatures away. temperatures to fall away. so it's be another pretty it's going to be another pretty chilly single chilly one down to single figures pretty much everywhere in rural spots, not far off in some rural spots, not far off freezing, particularly so across parts . so again, parts of scotland. so again, yes, a bit of a fresh start to wednesday, but the sun gets up early and starts lift early and soon starts to lift those temperatures and there will plenty sunshine, will be plenty of sunshine, quite cloud over quite a bit of cloud over eastern england still. so perhaps bit grey here, but perhaps a bit grey here, but that should break up the

that cloud should break up the possibility of 1 or 2 showers over the midlands south—east england, particularly through the morning. and there's the late morning. and there's that and rain just that cloud and rain just trickling into northern scotland late in day. as i said, late in the day. but as i said, most places dry, bright with some not spectacularly some sunshine, not spectacularly warm temperatures close to average by the afternoon , average by the afternoon, getting into the high teens , getting into the high teens, feeling pleasant in the sunshine . that patchy rain continues over northern scotland. elsewhere, it stays dry during wednesday evening and again clear skies will allow it to turn fairly chilly. maybe a little bit of mist here and there as well. but generally it's going to be another fine day on thursday with sunny spells. any early morning mist should tend to disappear. as we go through the morning. the cloud will start to thicken with some rain just coming some patchy rain just coming into western isles and into the western isles and northern ireland. that could become extensive become a little more extensive dunng become a little more extensive during the afternoon soon. but for much of the of this for much of the rest of this week, by the odd shower, most places staying with places staying dry with some sunny chilly mornings sunny spells and chilly mornings

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