i'm michelle dewberry. coming up tonight, prince harry, meghan markle and they have been involved in what they call and i will quote. are you ready in near catastrophic car chase .7 i near catastrophic car chase.7 i didn't want to mess those words up because let me tell you now, there are very different versions of events. what is going on.7 we will have all the latest on that and what on earth is going on in this country. why are so many people at home long term sick .7 how do we fix sick term sick? how do we fix sick note britain. and are you a bus

user ? have you been making the user? have you been making the most of the £2 fares? do you reckon it's time to roll them out permanently? forever and right across the land and foreign criminals? should we be paying foreign criminals? should we be paying them to go back home? we'll have all of that and more. but first, the latest . news but first, the latest. news michelle, thank you. the top stories— michelle, thank you. the top stories at— michelle, thank you. the top stories at just— michelle, thank you. the top stories at just after 6:00 on gb news,— stories at just after 6:00 on gb news, prince— stories at just after 6:00 on gb news, prince harry— stories at just after 6:00 on gb news, prince harry claims he , news, prince harry claims he, his wife— news, prince harry claims he, his wife meghan,— news, prince harry claims he, his wife meghan, and her mother were involved— his wife meghan, and her mother were involved in— his wife meghan, and her mother were involved in a— his wife meghan, and her mother were involved in a near catastrophic— were involved in a near catastrophic car chase involving the paparazzi— catastrophic car chase involving aha paparazzi h— catastrophic car chase involving the paparazzi in new york last night— the paparazzi in new york last night ,— the paparazzi in new york last night , a— the paparazzi in new york last night , a spokesperson for the night, a spokesperson for the aaahh— night, a spokesperson for the aaaph aah— night, a spokesperson for the couple said the— night, a spokesperson for the couple said the incident happened— couple said the incident happened after they attended an award— happened after they attended an award ceremony. _ happened after they attended an award ceremony. the statement aah— award ceremony. the statement sad the— award ceremony. the statement said the relentless pursuit hashing— said the relentless pursuit hashhg ava— said the relentless pursuit lasting over two hours resulted in lasting over two hours resulted h hahhhe— lasting over two hours resulted in multiple near— lasting over two hours resulted in multiple near collisions hvahhg— in multiple near collisions involving other— in multiple near collisions involving other drivers on the road.— involving other drivers on the road. pedestrians— involving other drivers on the road. pedestrians and two new york— road. pedestrians and two new york pathe— road. pedestrians and two new york police department officers. the— york police department officers. he who— york police department officers. he who has— york police department officers. the nypd has said they assisted the duke— the nypd has said they assisted the duke aha— the nypd has said they assisted the duke and duchess and that they— the duke and duchess and that they ahea— the duke and duchess and that they arrived at— the duke and duchess and that

they arrived at their destination - they arrived at their destination with no reported mansions.— destination with no reported collisions. injuries or arrests. haw— collisions. injuries or arrests. new york— collisions. injuries or arrests. new york city— collisions. injuries or arrests. new york city mayor eric adams aah— new york city mayor eric adams said hahha— new york city mayor eric adams said public safety— new york city mayor eric adams said public safety comes first aha— said public safety comes first and foremost— said public safety comes first and foremost at— said public safety comes first and foremost at a press paparazzh-s. - and foremost at a press paparazzi's. 05c. and foremost at a press paparazzi's. /1::. and foremost at a press paparazzi's. y:4. and foremost at a press- paparazzi's. you know, they want to get the right shot. they want to get the right shot. they want to get the right shot. they want to get the right story . arnie to get the right story. arnie but public safety must always be at the forefront of my the briefing i receive you know, two of our officers could have been injured and it would be horrific to lose an innocent bystander dunng to lose an innocent bystander during the chase like this. and something to have happened to them as well . so i think we have them as well. so i think we have to be extremely responsible. so i thought that was a bit reckless and irresponsible . reckless and irresponsible. well, that car chase breaking shah— well, that car chase breaking news story and— well, that car chase breaking news story and we'll bring you, of course, further— news story and we'll bring you, of course, further details on that— of course, further details on that throughout— of course, further details on that throughout the evening here on that throughout the evening here ah ah— that throughout the evening here ah ah news— that throughout the evening here ah ah news as— that throughout the evening here on gb news as well. in other today.— on gb news as well. in other news today, one— on gb news as well. in other news today, one of the world's harshest— news today, one of the world's haaaesh aa— news today, one of the world's largest car manufacturers is waahhg— largest car manufacturers is waahhglhay— largest car manufacturers is warning may have to close uk warning it may have to close uk factories.— warning it may have to close uk hachahea—afl factories, meaning thousands of job factories, meaning thousands of job hsses— factories, meaning thousands of job hesses h— factories, meaning thousands of job losses if the— factories, meaning thousands of job losses if the government aaeshh— job losses if the government doesn't renegotiate the brexit aeah— doesn't renegotiate the brexit aeah .— doesn't renegotiate the brexit aeah . that-s— doesn't renegotiate the brexit deal . that's after stellantis, deal. that's after stellantis, whheh— deal. that's after stellantis, which owns— deal. that's after stellantis, which owns brands like vauxhall

and chase.— which owns brands like vauxhall and citron, said— which owns brands like vauxhall and citron, said the current agreement— and citron, said the current agreement will— and citron, said the current agreement will affect its export and manufacturing operations in the uk.— and manufacturing operations in the uk. the— and manufacturing operations in the uk. the company says without changes— the uk. the company says without changes h— the uk. the company says without changes h whhh— the uk. the company says without changes it will struggle to make eheehhe— changes it will struggle to make electric vehicles— changes it will struggle to make electric vehicles at— changes it will struggle to make electric vehicles at ellesmere, heat— electric vehicles at ellesmere, hah aha— electric vehicles at ellesmere, port and luton_ electric vehicles at ellesmere, port and luton ._ electric vehicles at ellesmere, port and luton . the european port and luton. the european aahahehhhe— port and luton. the european automobile manufacture association _ automobile manufacture association is- automobile manufacture association is requesting a three— association is requesting a the yea— association is requesting a three year extension to phase in tougher— three year extension to phase in heaghea hash— three year extension to phase in tougher post brexit rules. farmer— tougher post brexit rules. former brexit— tougher post brexit rules. former brexit negotiator lord hash— former brexit negotiator lord hash haha — former brexit negotiator lord frost told gb _ former brexit negotiator lord frost told gb news this will test— frost told gb news this will test uh— frost told gb news this will test hh hu— frost told gb news this will test uk eu relations would not be test uk eu relations would not he sehshhhe— test uk eu relations would not be sensible to— test uk eu relations would not be sensible to reopen the entire hashe— be sensible to reopen the entire trade agreement— be sensible to reopen the entire trade agreement on this hahheahaa— trade agreement on this particular issue was one of the hash— particular issue was one of the hash he— particular issue was one of the hash ha he— particular issue was one of the last to be settled— particular issue was one of the last to be settled in 2020. the haashh— last to be settled in 2020. the car industry was— last to be settled in 2020. the car industry was happy with it at the time , but obviously a at the time, but obviously a lot's changed in the energy electric vehicle world since then. let's see if the government does decide they want to see if this problem can be fixed. well, it's a good test of whether our new warmer relationship with the eu can actually deliver anything . now

actually deliver anything. now the anti monarchy group republic says it never had any intention of disrupting the king's coronation in giving evidence to a parliamentary committee today, the group's campaign manager, graham smith, described the arrest on the morning of the event as a personally traumatic experience . yes, the experience. yes, the metropolitan - h1:;;a< 1 h1:; ht.1:; yes, the metropolitan police h1:;;a< 1 h1:;ht.h1:; yes, the metropolitan police told experience. yes, the- metropolitan police told mps aeshs— metropolitan police told mps arrests were _ metropolitan police told mps arrests were made because ahhaeas— arrests were made because officers were _ arrests were made because officers were operating in what was described— officers were operating in what was described as— officers were operating in what was described as a threat environment— was described as a threat environment ._ was described as a threat environment. in years was described as a threat environment . in years away from environment. in years away from harne— environment. in years away from hahe. ehghh— environment. in years away from home, eight people have died and hhaasahas— home, eight people have died and thousands more— home, eight people have died and thousands more have been evaaaahea— thousands more have been evacuated from _ thousands more have been evacuated from their homes as hhaaaha— evacuated from their homes as hhaaaha hhh— evacuated from their homes as flooding hit northern italy . flooding hit northern italy. hhahy-s— flooding hit northern italy. hhahy-s shah— flooding hit northern italy. italy's civil protection hhhshea— italy's civil protection minister has- italy's civil protection minister has said some areas in the emilia—romagna region have aeaehea— the emilia—romagna region have aeaehea hah— the emilia—romagna region have received half of— the emilia—romagna region have received half of their annual aahhahh— received half of their annual aahhahh h— received half of their annual rainfall in just— received half of their annual rainfall in just 36 hours. has— rainfall in just 36 hours. that's caused- rainfall in just 36 hours. that's caused riverbanks to harsh— that's caused riverbanks to harsh .— that's caused riverbanks to burst, sending— that's caused riverbanks to burst, sending water cascading hhaaaah— burst, sending water cascading hhaaaah hawas— burst, sending water cascading through towns and submerging hhaasahas— through towns and submerging thousands of— through towns and submerging thousands of acres of farmland. hhhs— thousands of acres of farmland. this weekend's— thousands of acres of farmland. this weekend's formula one race, due this weekend's formula one race, he ha— this weekend's formula one race, he ha hahe— this weekend's formula one race, due to take place— this weekend's formula one race, due to take place near some of he— due to take place near some of hhe warsh— due to take place near some of hhe harsh hhh— due to take place near some of the worst hit areas,— due to take place near some of the worst hit areas, has been aahhea— the worst hit areas, has been aahhea ah— the worst hit areas, has been called off after— the worst hit areas, has been called off after the government saha— called off after the government saha h— called off after the government said it needed—

called off after the government said it needed to— called off after the government said it needed to prioritise the warh— said it needed to prioritise the waah ah— said it needed to prioritise the waah ah hs— said it needed to prioritise the work of its emergency services. here— work of its emergency services. here he— work of its emergency services. here the defence— work of its emergency services. here the defence secretary says it's here the defence secretary says hh-s hhaaahahh— here the defence secretary says it's important to— here the defence secretary says it's important to signal to hassha— it's important to signal to russia that— it's important to signal to russia that the uk has no ahheahhah— russia that the uk has no objection to— russia that the uk has no objection to supplying ukraine whhh— objection to supplying ukraine whhh whah— objection to supplying ukraine whhh whah h— objection to supplying ukraine with what it needs. speaking at a news conference— with what it needs. speaking at a news conference in germany, hea— a news conference in germany, heh hahhaae— a news conference in germany, ben wallace said— a news conference in germany, ben wallace said britain will saaaah— ben wallace said britain will saaaaah hhe— ben wallace said britain will support the process of any hahhah— support the process of any nation that— support the process of any nation that wants to help the ham— nation that wants to help the war torn country.— nation that wants to help the war torn country. mr wallace ahsa— war torn country. mr wallace ahsa saha— war torn country. mr wallace also said the— war torn country. mr wallace also said the uk— war torn country. mr wallace also said the uk will continue the also said the uk will continue hhe haahha— also said the uk will continue the training and— also said the uk will continue the training and support of hhahhah— the training and support of ukrainian forces. the defence seaaehah— ukrainian forces. the defence secretary said— ukrainian forces. the defence secretary said russia should by aeahse— secretary said russia should by now realise western allies are gehhhg— now realise western allies are aehhhg shaahgea— now realise western allies are getting stronger day by day . getting stronger day by day. i hhhhh— getting stronger day by day. i hhhh ahe— getting stronger day by day. i think the fact— getting stronger day by day. i think the fact the— getting stronger day by day. i think the fact the messaging now is much more about are the people willing, if there are people willing, if there are people willing, if there are people willing, we'll help and enable. but if they're not, we'll find another way. that's quite important message to russia we're not giving russia that we're not giving up. the international community hasn't the hasn't fractured quite the opposite . he calculated they opposite. he calculated they would . we haven't. we're would. we haven't. we're standing stronger every day. and if you look at, for example, germany's donations and britain's donations, they've gone up, not down. they've got stronger , not weaker. and if

stronger, not weaker. and if president putin can't pick up on what that means , then he's going what that means, then he's going to himself quickly in to find himself very quickly in the at the wrong the wrong place at the wrong time. ben speaking time. ben wallace speaking eater— time. ben wallace speaking eaahhea .— time. ben wallace speaking earlier. now,— c ben wallace speaking earlier. now, labour wants to give— earlier. now, labour wants to have-areas— earlier. now, labour wants to give-areas the- earlier. now, labour wants to give areas the power to give local areas the power to hate— give local areas the power to build houses— give local areas the power to build houses on— give local areas the power to build houses on green belt land. but build houses on green belt land. huh ah— build houses on green belt land. huh ah hhe— build houses on green belt land. but on the condition it won't hhhaah— but on the condition it won't hhhaah aeas— but on the condition it won't impact areas of— but on the condition it won't impact areas of natural beauty. sir impact areas of natural beauty. sh heh— impact areas of natural beauty. sir keir starmer_ impact areas of natural beauty. sir keir starmer told the hhhhsh— sir keir starmer told the british chambers of commerce hhah— british chambers of commerce that increasing— british chambers of commerce that increasing housing supply washa— that increasing housing supply waaha heat— that increasing housing supply would lead to— that increasing housing supply would lead to property would lead to lower property hhaes— would lead to lower property hhaes .— would lead to lower property hhaes . hhe— would lead to lower property prices . the party says it will prices. the party says it will eseh— prices. the party says it will restore a target— prices. the party says it will restore a target of building aooaoo— restore a target of building 300,000 houses annually if it ahs— 300,000 houses annually if it hhe— 300,000 houses annually if it wins the next— 300,000 houses annually if it wins the next general election. hha— wins the next general election. aha hhah— wins the next general election. and that comes— wins the next general election. and that comes as— wins the next general election. and that comes as the prime hhhshea— and that comes as the prime minister rishi _ and that comes as the prime minister rishi sunak was forced to minister rishi sunak was forced ha hhah— minister rishi sunak was forced ha heap phahs— minister rishi sunak was forced to drop plans for— minister rishi sunak was forced to drop plans for compulsory haashg— to drop plans for compulsory housing targets— to drop plans for compulsory housing targets after a backlash ham— housing targets after a backlash ham aeheh— housing targets after a backlash from rebel backbench mps . the from rebel backbench mps. the hahaaa— from rebel backbench mps. the labour leader— from rebel backbench mps. the labour leader says his party whhh— labour leader says his party whhh make— labour leader says his party will make all— labour leader says his party will make all the right choices in will make all the right choices h hs— will make all the right choices in its mission— will make all the right choices in its mission for— will make all the right choices in its mission for growth . in its mission for growth. but my in its mission for growth. but m, wads.— in its mission for growth. but my waas. we— in its mission for growth. but my words, we will— in its mission for growth. but my words, we will take on planning reform. we will bring back local housing targets, we will stream line the process for national infrastructure projects and commercial development, and we'll remove the veto used by

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the usual ways. va can tweet me at email or the usual ways. va can tweet me at gb email or the usual ways. va can tweet me at gb news.ail or you can tweet me at gb news. now, were you paying attention dunng now, were you paying attention during my intro? everybody i wish i could test you because i was very, very clear on my words . i read them out so i didn't. i'll read them again. it's very important. these words. the duke and duchess of sussex have apparently been involved. are you ready in what has been described by one of their spokesmen as a near catastrophic car chase in new york? very important that i very directly read those words out, because as you're about to hear , there's you're about to hear, there's been quite a few different versions of events and quite a lot of confusion as to what exactly is going on. joining me now is our royal reporter , now is our royal reporter, cameron walker. cameron good evening to you. i'm very specific there in reading out those words from the statement on behalf of prince harry. there's been a few different versions of events, though. bnng versions of events, though. bring us up to speed with the latest. yeah, michelle, a very shaahahw— latest. yeah, michelle, a very strongly worded _ yeah, michelle, a very strongly worded statement aahwahhw— strongly worded statement actually from _ strongly worded statement actually from the spokesperson strongly worded statement actualltduket the spokesperson strongly worded statement actualltduke and spokesperson strongly worded statement actualltduke and duchesserson strongly worded statement actualltduke and duchess of on for the duke and duchess of sasse— for the duke and duchess of sasse lhhe— for the duke and duchess of sussex. the statement reads sussex. so the statement reads hash— sussex. so the statement reads hash hhghh— sussex. so the statement reads last night,-duke- sussex. so the statement reads last night, duke and duchess last night, the duke and duchess of last night, the duke and duchess ah-aha— last night, the duke and duchess of-and-ragland,- last night, the duke and duchess of and ragland, who is

of sussex and ms ragland, who is weahah-s— of sussex and ms ragland, who is meghan's mother— of sussex and ms ragland, who is meghan's mother involved of sussex and ms ragland, who is mea han's mother involved of sussex and ms ragland, who is mea near mother involved of sussex and ms ragland, who is mea near catastrophic involved of sussex and ms ragland, who is mea near catastrophic carnvolved of sussex and ms ragland, who is mea near catastrophic car chased in a near catastrophic car chase at in a near catastrophic car chase ah hhe— in a near catastrophic car chase ah hhe hahas— in a near catastrophic car chase at the hands of— in a near catastrophic car chase at the hands of a— in a near catastrophic car chase at the hands of a ring of highly aggresswe— at the hands of a ring of highly aggressive paparazzi . this aggressive paparazzi. this aehehhhess— aggressive paparazzi. this relentless pursuit lasted over hwa— relentless pursuit lasted over hwa has— relentless pursuit lasted over two hours, resulted in multiple near collisions— two hours, resulted in multiple near collisions involving other ahweas— near collisions involving other ahweas ah— near collisions involving other drivers on the— near collisions involving other drivers on the road, pedestrians aha— drivers on the road, pedestrians and hwa— drivers on the road, pedestrians and hwa wew— drivers on the road, pedestrians and two new york— drivers on the road, pedestrians and two new york police aehahhehh— and two new york police department officers. it's understood _ department officers. it's understood actually , that harry understood actually, that harry and weahah— understood actually, that harry and meghan felt— understood actually, that harry and meghan felt that the hahhehh— and meghan felt that the incident yesterday could have been — incident yesterday could have been hhah— incident yesterday could have been hahah .— incident yesterday could have been fatal . and— incident yesterday could have been fatal . and now that's one been fatal. and now that's one ah— been fatal. and now that's one version of the— been fatal. and now that's one version of the events. there are numerous reports— version of the events. there are numerous reports from sources ham— numerous reports from sources ham hhe— numerous reports from sources ham hhe aahhae— numerous reports from sources from the police as— numerous reports from sources from the police as to exactly whah— from the police as to exactly whah happens— from the police as to exactly what happens, the chain of eehhs— what happens, the chain of events. there— what happens, the chain of events. there was one version where— events. there was one version where haw— events. there was one version where haw aha— events. there was one version where harry and meghan switched cars where harry and meghan switched ah— where harry and meghan switched cars at one point— where harry and meghan switched cars at one point to— where harry and meghan switched cars at one point to evade paparazzh — cars at one point to evade paparazzi. but— cars at one point to evade paparazzi. but then in the last haa.— paparazzi. but then in the last haaa wew— paparazzi. but then in the last hour, new york— paparazzi. but then in the last hour, new york police departments released departments have released a shahemeah— departments have released a statement-there. departments have released a statement. there were statement. they say there were numerous photographers that made her— numerous photographers that made their-challenging- numerous photographers that made their-challenging .- numerous photographers that made their challenging . the their transport challenging. the sake— their transport challenging. the hahe aha— their transport challenging. the duke and duchess of sussex ah— duke and duchess of sussex arrives at their— duke and duchess of sussex arrives at their destination and here— arrives at their destination and hheae-aeaaahs- arrives at their destination and there-reports of- there were no reports of collisions.— there were no reports of collisions. some summons , collisions. some summons, htahes— collisions. some summons, htahes aa— collisions. some summons, injuries or arrests in regard to he— injuries or arrests in regard to hhe hahhehh— injuries or arrests in regard to the incident ._ injuries or arrests in regard to the incident . two— injuries or arrests in regard to the incident . two very the incident. two very contrasting— the incident. two very contrasting statements there. she— contrasting statements there. one hash— contrasting statements there. one much more— contrasting statements there. one much more dramatic than the ahhea— one much more dramatic than the ahhea es— one much more dramatic than the other news organisations and aahhehaahhs— other news organisations and commentators are inevitably

aaawha— commentators are inevitably drawing comparisons to how hhhaess— drawing comparisons to how princess diana— drawing comparisons to how princess diana died. and let's aeheheah ah— princess diana died. and let's remember, of course , princess remember, of course, princess hhaha— remember, of course, princess hhaha haa— remember, of course, princess hhaha haa hwa— remember, of course, princess diana had two sons who lost her— diana had two sons who lost their mother— diana had two sons who lost their mother that night in the haas— their mother that night in the paris tunnel. _ their mother that night in the paris tunnel. and following the sasse— paris tunnel. and following the sussex statements this afternoon, _ sussex statements this afternoon, it's all being dragged— afternoon, it's all being dragged back up again. 4 afternoon, it's all being— dragged back up again. yeah, and whah— dragged back up again. yeah, and whah ahaah— dragged back up again. yeah, and what about the mayor of new york? what's he been saying? well, he was finding it hard to believe that the duke and duchess of sussex car was pursued in what he called a high speed chase for over two hours. now, to be fair to the duke and hashess— now, to be fair to the duke and hashess ah— now, to be fair to the duke and duchess of sussex,— now, to be fair to the duke and duchess of sussex, they did not hhe — duchess of sussex, they did not hhe warh— duchess of sussex, they did not use the word high— duchess of sussex, they did not use the word high speed chase. hhah— use the word high speed chase. hah ._ use the word high speed chase. hah h hhhh— use the word high speed chase. but i think calling it a near catastrophic— but i think calling it a near catastrophic car— but i think calling it a near catastrophic car chase, a lot of heahhe— catastrophic car chase, a lot of heaphe ae— catastrophic car chase, a lot of people are conjuring up this ahahaae— people are conjuring up this hhahaae h— people are conjuring up this picture in their— people are conjuring up this picture in their minds of a car being— picture in their minds of a car being chased— picture in their minds of a car being chased through the streets of being chased through the streets at new— being chased through the streets at new haw.— being chased through the streets of new york, which is why perhaps— of new york, which is why perhaps he— of new york, which is why perhaps the mayor felt obliged to perhaps the mayor felt obliged ha pahh— perhaps the mayor felt obliged ha pahh ha— perhaps the mayor felt obliged to pull to call— perhaps the mayor felt obliged to pull to call a— perhaps the mayor felt obliged to pull to call a press conference— to pull to call a press conference in- to pull to call a press conference in new york and to say— conference in new york and to saw hhah— conference in new york and to saw hhah. ah— conference in new york and to say that, of course, new york very— say that, of course, new york are very densely— say that, of course, new york are very densely populated city, very— are very densely populated city, wew prhhhaaheah— are very densely populated city, very gridlocked, most of the the— very gridlocked, most of the hhrhe hhere— very gridlocked, most of the time there is— very gridlocked, most of the time there is phone footage on hwhhher— time there is phone footage on

hwhhher aha— time there is phone footage on twitter and other— time there is phone footage on twitter and other parts of the heme.— twitter and other parts of the internet, which _ twitter and other parts of the internet, which does show very ararhahha— internet, which does show very dramatic pictures— internet, which does show very dramatic pictures of paparazzi sarraahahp— dramatic pictures of paparazzi sarraahaha a— dramatic pictures of paparazzi surrounding a taxi. there hasn't been— surrounding a taxi. there hasn't been hash— surrounding a taxi. there hasn't been much mobile phone footage tram— been much mobile phone footage hrarh rherhersh— been much mobile phone footage from members of— been much mobile phone footage from members of the public to hhhs— from members of the public to hhhs ahhepea— from members of the public to this alleged incident, but ahearhw— this alleged incident, but ahearhw hh— this alleged incident, but clearly it appears harry and wephah— clearly it appears harry and hephah very— clearly it appears harry and meghan very shaken up by this hehaehh. — meghan very shaken up by this incident. new— meghan very shaken up by this incident. new york police peparhrhehh— incident. new york police department seemed to believe hhah— department seemed to believe hhah hh— department seemed to believe hhah h was— department seemed to believe that it was very— department seemed to believe that it was very isolated and hahaaw— that it was very isolated and hahaaw was— that it was very isolated and nobody was hurt. and it wasn't as tramwa— nobody was hurt. and it wasn't as dramatic, perhaps, as harry aha— as dramatic, perhaps, as harry and perhaps— as dramatic, perhaps, as harry and meghan's spokesperson first made— and meghan's spokesperson first made aah— and meghan's spokesperson first made aah hhah— and meghan's spokesperson first made out that it— and meghan's spokesperson first made out that it was . 'r: and meghan's spokesperson first made out that it was . ' r: made out that it was. and before i made out that it was. and before h heh— made out that it was. and before h heh vou— made out that it was. and before i let you go, just tell me, if you will, any response from buckingham palace on the whole thing? well, buckingham palace reheasea— thing? well, buckingham palace reheasea a— thing? well, buckingham palace released a statement— “g? well, buckingham palace released a statement that released a statement saying that the released a statement saying that hhe king— released a statement saying that hhe hhp was— released a statement saying that the king was meeting the seahhhsh— the king was meeting the scottish minister at scottish first minister at buckingham _ scottish first minister ati buckingham -a scottish first minister at- buckingham -a meeting scottish first minister at- buckinsoam -a meeting scottish first minister at- buckinso clearly,-a meeting scottish first minister at buckinso clearly, the a meeting scottish first minister at buckinso clearly, the kingteeting scottish first minister at buckfazedzlearly, the kingteeting scottish first minister at buckfazed bytrly, the kingteeting scottish first minister at buckfazed by thisthe kingteeting scottish first minister at buckfazed by this incidentteeting scottish first minister at buckfazed by this incident and ng isn't fazed by this incident and isn't fazed by this incident and hs heephp— isn't fazed by this incident and hs heephp-aha- isn't fazed by this incident and is keeping and carrying on is keeping calm and carrying on as-parhhaahar— is keeping calm and carrying on as particular instance, as for this particular instance, haahhpharh — buckingham palace not commenting and buckingham palace not commenting aha—heare— buckingham palace not commenting aha—heart hrarh - and we haven't heard from hehshphah— and we haven't heard from kensington palace, who represehhs— kensington palace, who represents prince thus represents prince william thus far . — represents prince william thus far . hhahh— represents prince william thus far. thank you— represents prince william thus far. thank you very- represents prince william thus far. t.1“ far. thank you very much, cameron. we're going to stay far. thank you very much, camertthistle're going to stay far. thank you very much, camertthis storygoing to stay far. thank you very much, camertthis story betweenstay far. thank you very much, camertthis story between now across this story between now and 7:00. any developments ? and 7:00. so any developments? please do join us again and

we'll keep up to speed with we'll keep you up to speed with all that. but for now, martin all of that. but for now, martin daubney, thoughts it. all of that. but for now, martin daubaty, thoughts it. all of that. but for now, martin dauba very thoughts it. all of that. but for now, martin dauba very dramatictts it. all of that. but for now, martin dauba very dramatic picture. well a very dramatic picture painted and one obviously echoes the death of diana straight away . our mind is in is in that ahaerpass— . our mind is in is in that underpass in— our mind is in is in that underpass in paris echoing that. but underpass in paris echoing that. hah we— underpass in paris echoing that. hah we hash— underpass in paris echoing that. but we must remember that new warh— but we must remember that new york r— but we must remember that new varh . ather— but we must remember that new york , after london,— but we must remember that new york , after london, perhaps, is york, after london, perhaps, is ah— york, after london, perhaps, is at he— york, after london, perhaps, is one of the most— york, after london, perhaps, is one of the most cctv cities on he— one of the most cctv cities on hhe ehhhre— one of the most cctv cities on the entire planet.— one of the most cctv cities on the entire planet. so we'd expeah— the entire planet. so we'd expect evidence or lack of to sharh— expect evidence or lack of to sharh erherphp— expect evidence or lack of to start emerging pretty soon. but it's start emerging pretty soon. but hh-s very— start emerging pretty soon. but as very hehhhp— start emerging pretty soon. but it's very telling, i— start emerging pretty soon. but it's very telling, i think, that he— it's very telling, i think, that hhe wawar— it's very telling, i think, that the mayor has— it's very telling, i think, that the mayor has gotten a front for aha— the mayor has gotten a front for and hashe— the mayor has gotten a front for and basic albie_ the mayor has gotten a front for and basic albie denied a version of and basic albie denied a version at eehhs— and basic albie denied a version at eehhs aha— and basic albie denied a version of events and that— and basic albie denied a version of events and that i think is hrhparhahh— of events and that i think is hrhparhahh ha— of events and that i think is important to do— of events and that i think is important to do because it's a serious security— important to do because it's a serious security breach for a shy— serious security breach for a shy at— serious security breach for a city of international repute hhhe— city of international repute hhhe hhah. — city of international repute like that. it's— city of international repute like that. it's a— city of international repute like that. it's a great allegation- like that. it's a great allegation to lay at his door. so allegation to lay at his door. sa-haah— allegation to lay at his door. sa-haah he-s— allegation to lay at his door. so -fact he's come- allegation to lay at his door. so fact he's come out, i so the fact he's come out, i hhhh— so the fact he's come out, i hhhh hs— so the fact he's come out, i hhhh hs very— so the fact he's come out, i think is very telling and it hhhs— think is very telling and it hhhs hha— think is very telling and it links into this— think is very telling and it links into this story. i think parap— links into this story. i think pahp ha— links into this story. i think we're going to cover in a minute ahaah— we're going to cover in a minute about-demanding- about harry demanding extra seaarhhw. — about harry demanding extra security. indeed. �*vw�*r: at: security. yeah, indeed. we are going— security. yeah, indeed. we are pahh-came— security. yeah, indeed. we are paraplaahe ah— security. yeah, indeed. we are going come on to that's going to come on to that. that's the whole question of essentially are essentially what some are saying. be for hire saying. should guns be for hire met police? should prince harry be when he's the to

be able when he's in the uk. to pay be able when he's in the uk. to pay for the met police to protect him , his wife and his protect him, his wife and his family? what do you make to that? he's challenging a judgement that basically said that couldn't that . we'll that he couldn't do that. we'll come to that in just a sec. come on to that in just a sec. but do you make this whole but what do you make this whole car i echo what car chase thing? i echo what martin says, really. i mean , i martin says, really. i mean, i feel for them _ martin says, really. i mean, i feel for them in— martin says, really. i mean, i feel for them in a— martin says, really. i mean, i feel for them in a way- than 1“ ”cane i mean, i feel for them in a way insomuch as hhhs— feel for them in a way insomuch as hhhs haw— feel for them in a way insomuch as hhhs may hash— feel for them in a way insomuch as this may just be— feel for them in a way insomuch as this may just be hyperbole on the as this may just be hyperbole on hhe parh— as this may just be hyperbole on hhe parh ah— as this may just be hyperbole on hhe parh at a— as this may just be hyperbole on the part of a press— as this may just be hyperbole on the part of a press officer. you haw.— the part of a press officer. you hhaw. hhere-s— the part of a press officer. you know, there's obviously a world of know, there's obviously a world ah-hehweeh - know, there's obviously a world of - between, quote i of difference between, quote aaaaahe— of difference between, quote unquote,-chase- of difference between, quote unquote, chase and simply unquote, a car chase and simply being— unquote, a car chase and simply being-in— unquote, a car chase and simply being-in a— unquote, a car chase and simply being-in a way- unquote, a car chase and simply being-in a way that- unquote, a car chase and simply being in a way that can being followed in a way that can being followed in a way that can he-appresswe.— being followed in a way that can be-aggressive,-also- be very aggressive, but also hepahhw— be very aggressive, but also- legally—happens legally by paparazzi. it happens to legally by paparazzi. it happens ha—ahh— legally by paparazzi. it happens ha—ahh hhe— legally by paparazzi. it happens to_all the time,- legally by paparazzi. it happens to all the time, but to celebrities all the time, but yeah— to celebrities all the time, but yeah ae— to celebrities all the time, but yeah. ahe— to celebrities all the time, but yeah, one like you— to celebrities all the time, but yeah, one like you say to some exhehh— yeah, one like you say to some extent undermines— yeah, one like you say to some extent undermines and discredits the extent undermines and discredits hhe repahahhah— extent undermines and discredits the reputation of— extent undermines and discredits the reputation of new york city aha— the reputation of new york city and he— the reputation of new york city and hhe ahher— the reputation of new york city and the other doesn't. so you can understand— and the other doesn't. so you can understand why why the can understand why the why the maya— can understand why the why the mayor-intervened- can understand why the why the mayor intervened in the way mayor has intervened in the way hhah— mayor has intervened in the way hhah-has.— mayor has intervened in the way that-has. initially,— mayor has intervened in the way that has. initially, found that he has. initially, i found it-unprofessional- that he has. initially, i found it unprofessional that it rather unprofessional that a wawar— it rather unprofessional that a wawar-respaha- it rather unprofessional that a mayor respond these mayor would respond to these charms—a- mayor would respond to these claims,_a senior. claims, rather than a senior pahhae— claims, rather than a senior pause—hhah.- claims, rather than a senior. police _that, you police officer. given that, you haw.— police officer. given that, you know,-violations- police officer. given that, you know, violations are know, traffic violations are her— know, traffic violations are. hhehr—hah their responsibility. motty but i their responsibility. motty but h-hhe— their responsibility. motty but h-hhe pahh— their responsibility. motty but i the point martin i think the point that martin rhahes— i think the point that martin rhaheslprehhw— i think the point that martin makes pretty fair. ”a: makes is pretty fair. before i do makes is pretty fair. before i ah ahe— makes is pretty fair. before i do come on to— makes is pretty fair. before i do come on to this, matt, please, you can get your thoughts into me on that. but

you were involved in magazines as celebrities and all the rest of it. what do you think to the way that paparazzi behave ? kyiv way that paparazzi behave? kyiv well, it's a part of the job.- well, it's a part of the job. twe— well, it's a part of the job. he been— well, it's a part of the job. i've been with— well, it's a part of the job. i've been with people like katie phae— i've been with people like katie hrhae ar— i've been with people like katie hrhae ar hhhw— i've been with people like katie price or abby titmuss hardly rawahhw— price or abby titmuss hardly royalty, nevertheless were mapped— royalty, nevertheless were mapped hw— royalty, nevertheless were mobbed by paparazzi. noel eahhapher— mobbed by paparazzi. noel sahhapher .— mobbed by paparazzi. noel gallagher , liam gallagher have gallagher, liam gallagher have been— gallagher, liam gallagher have been aah— gallagher, liam gallagher have been aah ah— gallagher, liam gallagher have been out on nights out with them and h— been out on nights out with them and h hs— been out on nights out with them and h hs a— been out on nights out with them and h hs a parh— been out on nights out with them and it is a part of— been out on nights out with them and it is a part of the routine of and it is a part of the routine at being— and it is a part of the routine at hehe a— and it is a part of the routine of being a global— and it is a part of the routine of being a global megastar that you of being a global megastar that waa are— of being a global megastar that you are mobbed— of being a global megastar that you are mobbed by paparazzi and hhere-s— you are mobbed by paparazzi and hhere-s a— you are mobbed by paparazzi and there's a mutually— you are mobbed by paparazzi and there's a mutually beneficial relationship.— there's a mutually beneficial relationship. often times it aaes— relationship. often times it does cross the— relationship. often times it does cross the line. of course, when— does cross the line. of course, when hh— does cross the line. of course, when it becomes— does cross the line. of course, when it becomes very invasive. twe— when it becomes very invasive. awe-twe— when it becomes very invasive. h-we-h-we see— when it becomes very invasive. i've i've seen paparazzi i've seen i've seen paparazzi jumping— i've seen i've seen paparazzi jumping er— i've seen i've seen paparazzi jumping over security gates on rhapeas— jumping over security gates on rhapeas h— jumping over security gates on mopeds in front— jumping over security gates on mopeds in front of the cars prahhhhhha— mopeds in front of the cars prohibiting their passage to get phahares. — prohibiting their passage to get phahares. hh— prohibiting their passage to get phehares. hh hs— prohibiting their passage to get pictures. it is a— prohibiting their passage to get pictures. it is a part, unfortunately , of being that unfortunately, of being that haas— unfortunately, of being that famous when— unfortunately, of being that famous when it— unfortunately, of being that famous when it crossed the line aehs— famous when it crossed the line pehs hawaras— famous when it crossed the line gets towards endangering safety. of gets towards endangering safety. or aarse— gets towards endangering safety. or .— gets towards endangering safety. of course , that's— gets towards endangering safety. of course , that's a— gets towards endangering safety. of course , that's a separate of course, that's a separate issue. that's— of course, that's a separate issue. that's what this story is ahaah. — issue. that's what this story is ahaah. have— issue. that's what this story is about. have the— issue. that's what this story is about. have the paparazzi rssea— about. have the paparazzi crossed the _ about. have the paparazzi crossed the line? and i think hh-s— crossed the line? and i think it's interesting— crossed the line? and i think it's interesting that it's not he— it's interesting that it's not hhe hrhhhsh— it's interesting that it's not the british paparazzi that are pehhhp— the british paparazzi that are pehhhp hhe— the british paparazzi that are getting the stick this time. as— getting the stick this time. it's america— getting the stick this time. it's america and paparazzi. but it it's america and paparazzi. but hh rerhahs— it's america and paparazzi. but hh ha— it's america and paparazzi. but it remains to be— it's america and paparazzi. but it remains to be seen. there are

here— it remains to be seen. there are hhere are— it remains to be seen. there are there are several— it remains to be seen. there are there are several versions of hhe— there are several versions of hhe-ewehh— there are several versions of the event already . so we the same event already. so we heed— the same event already. so we need ha— the same event already. so we need ha warh— the same event already. so we need to wait for— the same event already. so we need to wait for the full truth. wehh — need to wait for the full truth. wehh hhah-s— need to wait for the full truth. well, that's why— need to wait for the full truth. well, that's why i— need to wait for the full truth. well, that's why i was- need to wait for the full truth. well, that's why i was very clear in directly quoting the spokespersons statement, because there very different there are very different languages being used. and when we what is the line we talk about what is the line and have crossed the line, and have they crossed the line, the will be very different the line will be very different for different people. and prince harry, experience of for different people. and prince harmom, experience of for different people. and prince harmom, that experience of for different people. and prince harmom, that we'rearience of for different people. and prince harmom, that we're allnce of for different people. and prince harmom, that we're all familiar his mom, that we're all familiar with with with his line, perhaps with what's acceptable paparazzi behaviour what's not, will behaviour and what's not, will all differ. and i will share my urge to you now. but 17 years ago and yes, i know i don't look old enough, ladies and gents, don't worry about that. 17 years ago, i was on reality tv the apprentice, which i won. yes yes, i know. very good . i won. yes, i know. very good. i won. anyway, the reason i bring that up is because i was just a normal regular person that went on to this reality tv show. i was not experienced in the world of media and fame and all the rest of it. the way that the press and i won't say hounded because that's a bit extreme, but way that i was suddenly but the way that i was suddenly catapulted into this world of

and i will say celebrity, i'm not describing myself as a celebrity, so don't worry everyone. but it's more like you're in this kind of, well, like a celebrity thing and you do. i was followed by by men in cars and that to me was what they were. there were men in cars following me. yes. they happened to have a camera. but nonetheless, i felt very intimidated. i remember being on a tube platform once and this guy coming and standing so close to me and i was terrified. i thought, is this fella? is he like a bit of a wacko? is he going to push me and i was going to push me off? and i was frightened they used to sit frightened and they used to sit outside house. they used to outside my house. they used to ring doorbell say all ring my doorbell and say all kinds of weird things that were not perhaps true to get reactions from me. and it frightened me. and i'm quite like a ballsy girl, you know, i'm like i'm not a wet i'm not like i'm not a wet lettuce. i don't get frightened for silly things. but they did use frighten me. well, that use to frighten me. well, that sounds appalling— use to frighten me. well, that sounds appalling and- 4.91: g 1“r1:;“ well, that sounds appalling and think sounds appalling and i think hhah-s— sounds appalling and i think that's completely unacceptable, parhhaaharhw— particularly if it's a single woman. because particularly if it's a single. woman-because we particularly if it's a single- woman.-because we know woman. just just because we know shahhshhaahhw— statistically those kinds of

peaphe— statistically those kinds of. peaphe—hhas statistically those kinds of- people_kinds of people are prey to all kinds of awhah— people are prey to all kinds of awful behaviour— people are prey to all kinds of awful behaviour i'd in the awful behaviour. i'd say in the aase-harry.— awful behaviour. i'd say in the case-harry, look— awful behaviour. i'd say in the case . harry, look ,- awful behaviour. i'd say in the case harry, look , this guy case of harry, look, this guy has— case of harry, look, this guy has-hhe- case of harry, look, this guy has-the quick- case of harry, look, this guy- has -the quick wokeist has published the quick wokeist sehhhp— has published the quick wokeist sehhhp warh— has published the quick wokeist selling work of— has published the quick wokeist selling work of non—fiction in hhe— selling work of non—fiction in hhe hh— selling work of non—fiction in hhe hh aha— selling work of non—fiction in the uk and the— selling work of non—fiction in the uk and the us ever he is. he is the uk and the us ever he is. he hs hwhp— the uk and the us ever he is. he hs hwhp ha— the uk and the us ever he is. he hs hwhp ha he— the uk and the us ever he is. he hs hwhp ha he a— the uk and the us ever he is. he is trying to be a variable in hhe— is trying to be a variable in the political— is trying to be a variable in the political and cultural life of the political and cultural life at hhhs— the political and cultural life of this country— the political and cultural life of this country and the us that whhh— of this country and the us that whhh ae— of this country and the us that will come with— of this country and the us that will come with some scrutiny hhah— will come with some scrutiny hhah whhh— will come with some scrutiny that will that— will come with some scrutiny that will that will just come whhh— that will that will just come whhh sae— that will that will just come with some scrutiny . and like you with some scrutiny. and like you say,— with some scrutiny. and like you saw we-hh— with some scrutiny. and like you saw. we-hh hahh— with some scrutiny. and like you say, we'll talk about whether or not say, we'll talk about whether or hah hhe — say, we'll talk about whether or not the taxpayer— say, we'll talk about whether or not the taxpayer should fund his seaarhhw— not the taxpayer should fund his seaarhhw ar— not the taxpayer should fund his security or whether should security or whether they should haha — security or whether they should haha -seaarhhw- security or whether they should fund - security, how i fund their own security, how he— fund their own security, how hhew-ha— fund their own security, how hhew-ha aa— fund their own security, how they-to do that.- fund their own security, how they to do that. but but they wish to do that. but but i do they wish to do that. but but i aha-hhe— they wish to do that. but but i aa-hhhe ha— they wish to do that. but but i do-like to an— they wish to do that. but but i do like to an extent, this do feel like to an extent, this is do feel like to an extent, this hs-waa-re- do feel like to an extent, this is-you're playing-i do feel like to an extent, this. is-you're playing. it's is the game you're playing. it's a-shahes— is the game you're playing. it's a-shahes game.— is the game you're playing. it's a-stakes game, by- is the game you're playing. it's a stakes game, by the way. a hiin stakes game, by the way. it's a high stakes game, by the way. hh-slpahhhaah— a high stakes game, by the way. it'slpolitical game— a high stakes game, by the way. it's political game with it's a political game with with the it's a political game with with hhe rhaharahw— it's a political game with with the monarchy country. the monarchy in this country. hha— the monarchy in this country. aha-aaahe— the monarchy in this country. and quote unquote, and trying to quote unquote, shear— and trying to quote unquote, shear-harne— and trying to quote unquote, clear-name or— and trying to quote unquote, clear name or make his clear his name or make his araarhehh— clear his name or make his arparhehh ar— clear his name or make his argument or whatever. and do argument or whatever. and i do heeh— argument or whatever. and i do heeh hhe— argument or whatever. and i do feel like,-you're_ argument or whatever. and i do feel like, you're going to feel like, yes, you're going to be scrutinised— feel like, yes, you're going to be scrutinised by— feel like, yes, you're going to be scrutinised by the media in very— be scrutinised by the media in very parhhaahar— be scrutinised by the media in very particular that's not very particular ways. that's not ahwaws—waa- very particular ways. that's not ahwaws—waa hhaw.i always going to be, you know, hhe— always going to be, you know, pah— always going to be, you know, hah ha— always going to be, you know, nice, but to an— always going to be, you know, nice, but to an extent. to an exheah— nice, but to an extent. to an extent, because,— nice, but to an extent. to an extent, because, course, he nice, but to an extent. to an extea , because, course, he nice, but to an extent. to an extea royal. use, course, he nice, but to an extent. to an extea royal. he, course, he nice, but to an extent. to an extea royal. he was course, he nice, but to an extent. to an extea royal. he was born a, he nice, but to an extent. to an extea royal. he was born into was a royal. he was born into hhhs— was a royal. he was born into hhhs-hhah— was a royal. he was born into hhhs-aah ha- was a royal. he was born into this-but to an- was a royal. he was born into this but to an extent this anyway. but to an extent hhah— this anyway. but to an extent hhahlhhe— this anyway. but to an extent that-the-he's- this anyway. but to an extent that the he's chosen. that is the life he's chosen. i aerhahhw— that is the life he's chosen. i certainly wouldn't choose it hwsehh — certainly wouldn't choose it hwsehh aha — certainly wouldn't choose it hwsehh aha .— certainly wouldn't choose it myself. and i-it- certainly wouldn't choose it myself. and i it raises myself. and i think it raises aaeshhahs— myself. and i think it raises questions actually, about life hsh-h— questions actually, about life hsh-h ahwaws— questions actually, about life

isn't always particularly pheasahh— isn't always particularly pleasant and pleasant when you're rich and haas — pleasant when you're rich and haas -hs— pleasant when you're rich and famous. -is it- pleasant when you're rich and famous. -is it a- pleasant when you're rich and famous. e r:r1:r. famous. well, is it a double edged be edged sword? should it be a double edged sword? can you have the of it, which is the the one side of it, which is the fame? the fortune and the glamour and the adoration of fans other glamour and the adoration of fans which other glamour and the adoration of fans which is, other glamour and the adoration of fans which is, you other glamour and the adoration of fans which is, you know, ther side, which is, you know, unpleasant behaviour from time to time? there a line? who to time? is there a line? who decides the what is decides what the line what is that you ? well, let's that line to you? well, let's talk then, shall we, about what? the about whether or the court case about whether or not i'll just be crass with not and i'll just be crass with my wording, but the met, should there be guns for hire , there be guns for hire, essentially prince harry? essentially for prince harry? no. basically , harry is acting no. basically, harry is acting hhe— no. basically, harry is acting hhhe ah— no. basically, harry is acting hhhe an was— \r1:r basically, harry is acting like an nhs health tourist, but whhh— like an nhs health tourist, but whhh seaarhhw— like an nhs health tourist, but with security he's— like an nhs health tourist, but with security he's come into hrhhah— with security he's come into hrhhah aha— with security he's come into britain and demanding it for tree.— britain and demanding it for free. wehh— britain and demanding it for free. well, that— britain and demanding it for free. well, that was turned aawh. — free. well, that was turned aawh. haw— free. well, that was turned down. now he— free. well, that was turned down. now he wants to use his fat down. now he wants to use his rah aheaae— down. now he wants to use his fat cheque book— down. now he wants to use his fat cheque book to— down. now he wants to use his fat cheque book to buy the best praheahhaa— fat cheque book to buy the best praheahhah. why— fat cheque book to buy the best protection. why should a member of protection. why should a member at hhe— protection. why should a member at hhe pahhha— protection. why should a member of the public buy— protection. why should a member of the public buy the best rrerhersh— of the public buy the best members of— of the public buy the best members of a— of the public buy the best members of a force, which is aahaahhw— members of a force, which is actually they're _ members of a force, which is actually they're paid for by the haxpawer. — actually they're paid for by the haxpawer. para— actually they're paid for by the taxpayer, paid for— actually they're paid for by the taxpayer, paid for by us and all gb taxpayer, paid for by us and all sh wews— taxpayer, paid for by us and all gb news viewers— taxpayer, paid for by us and all gb news viewers to protect the paths— gb news viewers to protect the paths hrarh — gb news viewers to protect the public from serious breaches of seaarhhw— public from serious breaches of seaarhhw sash— public from serious breaches of security such as— public from serious breaches of security such as terrorist risks whah— security such as terrorist risks whhah we— security such as terrorist risks which we know— security such as terrorist risks which we know are high in hahaah— which we know are high in london, especially harry's

hwha— london, especially harry's hwhp ha— london, especially harry's hwhp ha haw— london, especially harry's trying to buy the best treatment.— trying to buy the best treatment. the met shouldn't awe— treatment. the met shouldn't the h— treatment. the met shouldn't the h ha— treatment. the met shouldn't have hh ha hhh— treatment. the met shouldn't give it to him. and by the way, the give it to him. and by the way, hhe persa— give it to him. and by the way, the person whose— give it to him. and by the way, the person whose place harry's life the person whose place harry's hhe hh— the person whose place harry's hhe h h— the person whose place harry's life in, in-greatest- the person whose place harry's life in, in greatest danger life in, in the greatest danger is life in, in the greatest danger hs hhrhseh— life in, in the greatest danger is himself when— life in, in the greatest danger is himself when he it's all ahaah— is himself when he it's all ahaah haw— is himself when he it's all about how many people he'd he'd haheh— about how many people he'd he'd haheh aawh— about how many people he'd he'd haheh aawh ar— about how many people he'd he'd taken down or helped to take aawh— taken down or helped to take down-taliban- taken down or helped to take down-taliban in- down in the taliban in afghanistan.- down in the taliban in afghanistan. he directly raahehea— afghanistan. he directly rocketed himself up. the seaarhhw— rocketed himself up. the security risk.— rocketed himself up. the security risk. and i wonder call me— security risk. and i wonder call me a aware.— security risk. and i wonder call me a aware. hha— security risk. and i wonder call me a cynic. and again, this is hhe— me a cynic. and again, this is hhe hash— me a cynic. and again, this is the fast moving— me a cynic. and again, this is the fast moving story. but is rewhp— the fast moving story. but is rewhp ap— the fast moving story. but is rewhp ap hhe— the fast moving story. but is revving up the perceived danger hawaras— revving up the perceived danger hawaras hhh— revving up the perceived danger towards him as— revving up the perceived danger towards him as part of the play as sawhp— towards him as part of the play as sayingr wehh— towards him as part of the play as sayingr wehh .— towards him as part of the play as saying, well , actually, we'd as saying, well, actually, we'd hehher— as saying, well, actually, we'd hehher awe— as saying, well, actually, we'd better give him _ as saying, well, actually, we'd better give him security . call better give him security. call me— better give him security. call me a aware.— better give him security. call me a cynic. you— better give him security. call me a cynic. you a— better give him security. call me a cynic. you a cynic. you aah— me a cynic. you a cynic. you aahh rhe— me a cynic. you a cynic. you aahh he a— me a cynic. you a cynic. you aahh he a aware— me a cynic. you a cynic. you call me a cynic. - me a cynic. you a cynic. you call me a cynic. c4. me a cynic. you a cynic. you call me a cynic . c4. 1“ ”r1:; call me a cynic. guns for hire, so to speak , which i entirely so to speak, which i entirely agree. you know , the police are agree. you know, the police are hhere— agree. you know, the police are hhere ha— agree. you know, the police are there to uphold— agree. you know, the police are there to uphold the— ragtir: you know, the police are there to uphold the rule of law aha— there to uphold the rule of law and phase— there to uphold the rule of law and provide equality under the law and provide equality under the haw har— and provide equality under the law for absolutely everyone. the preaeaehh— law for absolutely everyone. the precedent that _ law for absolutely everyone. the precedent that was— law for absolutely everyone. the precedent that was submitted by harry-s— precedent that was submitted by harw-s-was— precedent that was submitted by harry's was football harry's lawyer was that football ahahs— harry's lawyer was that football clubs contribute _ harry's lawyer was that football clubs contribute towards public arter— clubs contribute towards public araer pahhaha— clubs contribute towards public order policing . _ clubs contribute towards public order policing . i— clubs contribute towards public order policing . order policing. i was just about to say that to you. my apologies. and- to say that to you. my apologies. and i- apologies. and i think that's to say that to you. my- apologies. and i think that's a bit apologies. and i think that's a hhh shap— apologies. and i think that's a bit stop nicking_ apologies. and i think that's a bit stop nicking my. sorry, but hhah-s— bit stop nicking my. sorry, but has a— bit stop nicking my. sorry, but has a hhh— bit stop nicking my. sorry, but that's a bit different because it's that's a bit different because hh-s pahhha— that's a bit different because it's public order— that's a bit different because it's public order policing. i hhhh— it's public order policing. i hhhh whea— it's public order policing. i

think when individual can think when an individual can hasheahhw— think when an individual can hasheahhw pay— think when an individual can basically pay for— think when an individual can basically pay for a service that ahher— basically pay for a service that ahher-aah-h— basically pay for a service that other don't benefit from other people don't benefit from , i other people don't benefit from . h hhhh— other people don't benefit from . h hhhh hhah— other people don't benefit from , i think that undermines the whahe— , i think that undermines the whahe-ah— , i think that undermines the whole-of what- , i think that undermines the whole -of what a - , i think that undermines the whole of what a public whole idea of what a public pahhae— whole idea of what a public pahhee harae — whole idea of what a public police force -and - whole idea of what a public police force and you police force is for. and you haw.— police force is for. and you know,-counter- police force is for. and you know, counter argument might know, the counter argument might be, know, the counter argument might be...— know, the counter argument might he- hhah— know, the counter argument might be. hhah waaha— know, the counter argument might be, , that would contribute be, well, that would contribute hawaras— be, well, that would contribute towards-more- be, well, that would contribute towards more police towards paying for more police or towards paying for more police ar whahewea— towards paying for more police or whatever. that's a or whatever. i think that's a very— or whatever. i think that's a very slippery— or whatever. i think that's a very slippery the idea very slippery slope. the idea hhah— very slippery slope. the idea hhah hhere-s— very slippery slope. the idea that there's a _ very slippery slope. the idea that there's a two tier police tre— that there's a two tier police farce-ha— that there's a two tier police force..to speak,- that there's a two tier police force. to speak, one the force. so to speak, one for the ahhra—hhe- force. so to speak, one for thei ultra _the rest. ultra rich and one for the rest. my— ultra rich and one for the rest. haw-whea- ultra rich and one for the rest. ww-wheh waa- ultra rich and one for the rest. my-when you looki ultra rich and one for the rest. my-when you look at my goodness, when you look at the my goodness, when you look at hhe aaahh— my goodness, when you look at the amount of— my goodness, when you look at the amount of crimes that aren't being— the amount of crimes that aren't hehe-ahreaaw— the amount of crimes that aren't hehhp-ahreaaw h— the amount of crimes that aren't being already, i don't being solved already, i don't hhe— being solved already, i don't hhhe hhe— being solved already, i don't like the sound— being solved already, i don't like the sound of that. h“41:;r?1“ like the sound of that. yeah. aha— like the sound of that. yeah. aha-whhhh— like the sound of that. yeah. and within this building, and even within this building, there security guards that there are security guards that work that are work at gb news that are fantastic work for high fantastic and they work for high net individuals. harry can net worth individuals. harry can afford his security, afford to get his own security, not taxpayer. yes, afford to get his own security, not taxpayer . yes, but then not the taxpayer. yes, but then the not the taxpayer. yes, but then hhe pashhaah— not the taxpayer. yes, but then the pushback to _ not the taxpayer. yes, but then the pushback to that- yes, but then the pushback to that would be yes,— the pushback to that would be yes ah— the pushback to that would be yes. ah aarse— the pushback to that would be yes, of course i— the pushback to that would be yes, of course i can afford my seaarhhw— yes, of course i can afford my own security. but— yes, of course i can afford my own security. but wouldn't own security. but they wouldn't have —har- have the intel that, for examphe— have the intel that, for example, met have the intel that, for example,-met would . example, the met police would. by example, the met police would. hw hhe— example, the met police would. by hhe way.— example, the met police would. by hhe wayr a— example, the met police would. by hhe way. a hah— example, the met police would. by the way, a lot of people hahha— by the way, a lot of people hahha-whhh- by the way, a lot of people taking -with-youj by the way, a lot of people- taking-with-you said taking issue with what you said when— taking issue with what you said when ya— taking issue with what you said when you described as when you described spur as a warh— when you described spur as a warh ah— when you described spur as a warh ah haa— when you described spur as a work of non fiction. a lot of peaphe— work of non fiction. a lot of people disputing that. you're warwha— people disputing that. you're warwhp rhe— people disputing that. you're worrying me that i agree. i aaaha— worrying me that i agree. i aaaha heh— worrying me that i agree. i could tell you— worrying me that i agree. i could tell you .— worrying me that i agree. i could tell you . right. get me could tell you. right. get me waar— could tell you. right. get me waar hhaaphhs— could tell you. right. get me your thoughts coming in because i your thoughts coming in because h-rehheah— your thoughts coming in because i-reflect some- your thoughts coming in because i-reflect some .your. i want to reflect some of your heehhas— i want to reflect some of your heehhas-ahe- i want to reflect some of your feelings one tonight in feelings on that one tonight in

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anymore. you're listening to gb news radio . hello there. i'm news radio. hello there. i'm michelle dewberry \ ?er: i'm michelle dewberry alongside \ 3er: i'm michelle dewberry alongside me rhphh— michelle dewberry alongside me rhphh hhraaph— michelle dewberry alongside me right through till— michelle dewberry alongside me right through till seven. the rarer— right through till seven. the former brexit— right through till seven. the former brexit party mep , martin former brexit party mep, martin haahhew— former brexit party mep, martin haahhew aha— former brexit party mep, martin daubney and the— former brexit party mep, martin daubney and the co—founder of waaa— daubney and the co—founder of waaa weara— daubney and the co—founder of novara media, aaron bastani . novara media, aaron bastani. we-we— novara media, aaron bastani. we-we rash— novara media, aaron bastani. we've just been— novara media, aaron bastani. we've just been talking about wephah— we've just been talking about hephah harry— we've just been talking about meghan harry two—tier. police sawhp— meghan harry two—tier. police sawhp whehher— meghan harry two—tier. police saying whether or— meghan harry two—tier. police saying whether or not harry shaaha — saying whether or not harry shaaha he — saying whether or not harry should be able— saying whether or not harry should be able to pay basically for should be able to pay basically far-weh— should be able to pay basically far-weh ha— should be able to pay basically for-met to protect- should be able to pay basically for met to protect him and for the met to protect him and his for the met to protect him and hrs-wheh— for the met to protect him and hrs-when h— for the met to protect him and his-when in this- for the met to protect him and his when in this country his family when in this country 20 his family when in this country so saws— his family when in this country 20 says michelle,— his family when in this country 20 says michelle, you're missing samehhha— 20 says michelle, you're missing sarhehhhp. we— 20 says michelle, you're missing something. we already have a two tier something. we already have a two her-sweep— something. we already have a two hher-swsherh. he— something. we already have a two tier-system, he says- tier policing system, he says cah— tier policing system, he says cahh a— tier policing system, he says call a policeman— tier policing system, he says call a policeman to a house harphaw— call a policeman to a house harphaw h— call a policeman to a house burglary in belgravia and hhew-hh— burglary in belgravia and hhew-hh-aahh- burglary in belgravia and they'll call them burglary in belgravia and- they'll-call them from they'll turn up, call them from hahharh.— they'll turn up, call them from hahharh. hha— they'll turn up, call them from balham. and not— they'll turn up, call them from balham. and not a chance to hhhps— balham. and not a chance to hhhps hhere. — balham. and not a chance to things there. tony i'll read i have— things there. tony i'll read i have ha— things there. tony i'll read i have to come— things there. tony i'll read i have to come up— things there. tony i'll read i have to come up with another

phase— have to come up with another phaae heaase— have to come up with another place because most people won't hhaw— place because most people won't hhaw where— place because most people won't know where balham is, but balham also south—west— know where balham is, but balham also south—west london, that is aahhe— also south—west london, that is pate—har— also south—west london, that is aahhe—har rhahw. - also south—west london, that is quite _for many. sol quite a posh area for many. so we-we-heeh— quite a posh area for many. so we've been putting our we've just been putting our heaas— we've just been putting our heads together— we've just been putting our heads together to come up with somewhere else,— heads together to come up with somewhere else, beginning with b that somewhere else, beginning with b hhah-hhe— somewhere else, beginning with b that-the police- that we think the police waahah-h— wouldn't attend. where do we come bournemouth? come up with bournemouth? bournemouth— come up with bournemouth? bournemouth there you go. are you— you in bournemouth? have you ever—have- you in bournemouth? have you —ewerhae waai ever had a burglary? have you ever—pause?- ever had a burglary? have you ever—police? havel ever called the police? have hhew— ever called the police? have they-attended?- ever called the police? have they attended? and so, they ever attended? and if so, did they ever attended? and if so, aha-ahwhhhpe- they ever attended? and if so, did anything? did they did they do anything? did they each— did they do anything? did they aahah hhe— did they do anything? did they catch the criminal or not? the hhah— catch the criminal or not? the one that lots— catch the criminal or not? the one that lots-you. - catch the criminal or not? the one that lots you. i'll bring one that lots of you. i'll bring in one that lots of you. i'll bring h-ah— one that lots of you. i'll bring h-ah waar— one that lots of you. i'll bring in of your comments on in some of your comments on harry—h- in some of your comments on harry—h rash- in some of your comments on harry—h rash al harry and meghan in just a seaaha— harry and meghan in just a seaaaah-ah- harry and meghan in just ai second.-of-have second. but lots of you have iarhpea— second. but lots of you have jumped ahead.— second. but lots of you have jumped ahead. talking to jumped ahead. you're talking to me jumped ahead. you're talking to he ahaah— jumped ahead. you're talking to me about sickness— jumped ahead. you're talking to me about sickness already sick hahe— me about sickness already sick hahe hhah.— me about sickness already sick note britain-what- me about sickness already sick note britain. what i'm note britain. that's what i'm pondering-— note britain. that's what i'm ponderin9-_wel note britain. that's what i'm. pondering._we are pondering. is that what we are hahe— pondering. is that what we are hahe-absence— pondering. is that what we are long absence from work has long term absence from work has rasheheah— long term absence from work has rocketed-this— long term absence from work has rocketed.-this 2.5— long term absence from work has rocketed. this 2.5 million rocketed. get this 2.5 million peaphe— rocketed. get this 2.5 million people apparently long people apparently on long term shah— people apparently on long term shah-hhphesh— people apparently on long term sick-highest since- people apparently on long term sick highest since 2004. sick leave, highest since 2004. cah— sick leave, highest since 2004. can ya— sick leave, highest since 2004. can you paess— sick leave, highest since 2004. can you guess what many of them are can you guess what many of them saherha— can you guess what many of them are suffering with— can you guess what many of them are suffering with bad backs, rhehhah— are suffering with bad backs, mental health,— are suffering with bad backs, mental health, neck pain , all mental health, neck pain, all hhe— mental health, neck pain, all hhe resh— mental health, neck pain, all hhe resh ah— mental health, neck pain, all the rest of it.— mental health, neck pain, all the rest of it. careful what you whsh— the rest of it. careful what you whsh far.— the rest of it. careful what you whsh far. hw— the rest of it. careful what you wish for, by the _ the rest of it. careful what you wish for, by the way, when you ash— wish for, by the way, when you ash ha — wish for, by the way, when you ash ha warh— wish for, by the way, when you ask to work from _ wish for, by the way, when you ask to work from home, because i do ask to work from home, because i ah the— ask to work from home, because i ah the hhe— ask to work from home, because i do find the correlation between warhha— do find the correlation between warhhp harh — do find the correlation between working from home and people all oflsudden— working from home and people all oflsudden with— working from home and people all oflsudden with lots— working from home and people all of sudden with lots of bad of a sudden with lots of bad aeshs— of a sudden with lots of bad

necks-backs.- of a sudden with lots of bad necks backs. quite necks and bad backs. quite hhereshhp— necks and bad backs. quite interesting. anyway, interesting. but anyway, what do you interesting. but anyway, what do haa-ha— interesting. but anyway, what do waa-ha-whah-s- interesting. but anyway, what do you to what's going you make to this? what's going ah?— you make to this? what's going -aa— you make to this? what's going -aa hahah— you make to this? what's going on?-a bunch of- you make to this? what's going on? a bunch of work shy on? are we a bunch of work shy so—and—sos or what? �*fh�*r1:44 so—and—sos or what? well, look, hooaoo— so—and—sos or what? well, look, 400,000 are on long 400,000 extra people are on long term since covid. who would term sick since covid. who would have thought that if you chucked £410 billion into the economy to pay £410 billion into the economy to pay people to not work, they might get taste it. that's might get a taste for it. that's what i think has happened. people they quite like sort of know the cappuccino class know that the cappuccino class is working from home. they like the of not commuting , the idea of not commuting, saving the money on that. and then on sick is an then to go on sick is an extension further of that. but the truly remarkable thing about this this is affliction this is this is an affliction that affects public sector that affects the public sector workers 3.6% versus 2.3% of private sector workers. isn't it funny how it only seems to affect public sector workers and work shy wales and sky over scotland much more public sector people there are, i think, gaming the system. i think they are. i think they're taking the rise. and how do you prove bad back? how do you prove long covid are you are you someone in

one areas that he's one of those areas that he's singling out? if you got a bad hash— singling out? if you got a bad hash have— singling out? if you got a bad hash have waa— singling out? if you got a bad back, have you got— “g “g r1:r..7’ if you got a bad back, have you got bad mental heahhhh— back, have you got bad mental health? what— back, have you got bad mental health? what think to health? what do you think to whah— health? what do you think to whah-sawhph— health? what do you think to what-saying? by- health? what do you think to what saying? by the way, what he's saying? by the way, i do what he's saying? by the way, i ah ahea— what he's saying? by the way, i ah ahsa-ha— what he's saying? by the way, i do often-to myself- what he's saying? by the way, i do often to myself that do often ponder to myself that ahelhhe— do often ponder to myself that ahelhhe aesh— do often ponder to myself that one .the best cures- do often ponder to myself that one the best cures for one of the best cures for hsshessh — one of the best cures for sickness, all— one of the best cures for sickness, all ailments. it seems to sickness, all ailments. it seems ha-har— sickness, all ailments. it seems ha-har eerwae— to work for everyone is self erhphawrhehh— to work for everyone is self erhphawrhehh .— to work for everyone is self employment . aaron, what do you employment. aaron, what do you hahe— employment. aaron, what do you hahe-ah— employment. aaron, what do you hahe-ahh-h— employment. aaron, what do you make-all?-i think- employment. aaron, what do you make all? i think on make of it all? well i think on the make of it all? well i think on hhe-haha.— make of it all? well i think on hhe-haha. .— make of it all? well i think on the hand, i probably depart the one hand, i probably depart hash—sawhp- the one hand, i probably depart hash—sawhp hl the one hand, i probably departi from—saying in so from what martin is saying in so hash— from what martin is saying in so rhash as— from what martin is saying in so rhash h— from what martin is saying in so much as, i think— from what martin is saying in so much as, i think sick leave and shh— much as, i think sick leave and shh paw— much as, i think sick leave and shsh paw are— much as, i think sick leave and sick pay are positive things. i hw— sick pay are positive things. i aw aaa-s— sick pay are positive things. i mean, my dad'sltaxi- sick pay are positive things. i mean, my dad's taxi driver, so mean, my dad's a taxi driver, so he get sick pay or sick he doesn't get sick pay or sick leave. if he doesn't work, leave. and if he doesn't work, he get but that's he doesn't get money. but that's my that's self—employed. my that's my self—employed. when you get when you when you don't get pahh— when you when you don't get pahh h— when you when you don't get pahh at you— when you when you don't get paid, if you don't— when you when you don't get paid, if you don't go to work, all paid, if you don't go to work, ahh ah— paid, if you don't go to work, ahh at a— paid, if you don't go to work, all of a sudden— paid, if you don't go to work, all of a sudden you realise that you— all of a sudden you realise that you hhahh— all of a sudden you realise that you rhhphh hah— all of a sudden you realise that you might not be— all of a sudden you realise that you might not be as ill as. but he.— you might not be as ill as. but the-seen— you might not be as ill as. but i've,-seen-really- you might not be as ill as. but i've, seen really sick i've, i've seen him really sick aha—shh- i've, i've seen him really sick and—sick and- i've, i've seen him really sicki and—sick and there and work really sick and there is and work really sick and there hs a— and work really sick and there hs a h— and work really sick and there hs a h hhhh— and work really sick and there is a i think probably all is a i think we probably all agree— is a i think we probably all agree hhere— is a i think we probably all agree there is— is a i think we probably all agree there is a— is a i think we probably all agree there is a red line where peaphe— agree there is a red line where people shouldn't— agree there is a red line where people shouldn't work if they are people shouldn't work if they shh— people shouldn't work if they shh aha— people shouldn't work if they are sick and so— people shouldn't work if they are sick and so i— people shouldn't work if they are sick and so i think it's a paste— are sick and so i think it's a positive thing— are sick and so i think it's a positive thing if— are sick and so i think it's a positive thing if people feel hhew— positive thing if people feel hhew sah-h— positive thing if people feel they can't work,— positive thing if people feel- they can't work,_make they can't work, they might make ahher— they can't work, they might make ahher-shh — they can't work, they might make other-sick, can't- other people sick, can't do her— other people sick, can't do hhehr—rhhahhl other people sick, can't do- their_ might weigh theirjob properly, might weigh sawh— theirjob properly, might weigh dawn—h— theirjob properly, might weigh aawh—h hhhh- theirjob properly, might weigh down—i think it's theirjob properly, might weigh. down—i think it's a down their teams. i think it's a it's down their teams. i think it's a he a— down their teams. i think it's a it's a positive that we it's a positive thing that we have sick leave. have sick pay, sick leave. however, you say, what however, like you say, what

we're here is we're discussing here is the fact it's really shot up in recent years. that's indisputable. you talked about bad aches and and bad backs, aches and pains and mental wonder much mental health. i wonder how much of coming from mental of it is coming from mental health, because we look the health, because we look at the statistics on of sertraline statistics on use of sertraline citalopram prozac. look statistics on use of sertraline citchildren prozac. look statistics on use of sertraline citchildren with prozac. look statistics on use of sertraline citchildren with ritalin look statistics on use of sertraline citchildren with ritalin anxiety; at children with ritalin anxiety disorders rocketed disorders. they've all rocketed really the last 15 years really over the last 15 years and think a society, and i think as a society, doesn't you're left doesn't matter if you're left right, conservative, socialist, we understand the things we have to understand the things driving this and try and address it. it's hugely, hugely important. and i think i think it's easy when somebody's got a hidden illness, anxiety or depression or insomnia and to say they're not really ill, but that person literally can't work. they literally can't contribute. and many of them want to. and think it's up to want to. and i think it's up to the government. i think it's up to employers, but think it's to employers, but i think it's just up to civil society to just also up to civil society to try and create some solutions here, because i think we're really failing in this department in particular. and of course, is saying course, nobody is saying that ewewhaaw— course, nobody is saying that ewewhaawlhahp- course, nobody is saying that everybody long term sick is everybody on long term sick is hahha— everybody on long term sick is hahhalwhah— everybody on long term sick is faking-what i'm— everybody on long term sick is faking what i'm saying is, faking it. what i'm saying is, haw— faking it. what i'm saying is, hawlwaa— faking it. what i'm saying is, how-you explain- faking it. what i'm saying is, how you explain this sudden how do you explain this sudden surge?— how do you explain this sudden sarpeh hha— how do you explain this sudden surge? and again,— how do you explain this sudden surge? and again, call a surge? and again, call me a syph—

surge? and again, call me a swahslhhhh— surge? and again, call me a- cynic,ithink_gaming cynic, i think people are gaming the cynic, i think people are gaming hhe-was— cynic, i think people are gaming hhe-was h— cynic, i think people are gaming hhe-was h was- cynic, i think people are gaming the-was i was on- cynic, i think people are gaming the was i was on telly the system. i was i was on telly earhher— the system. i was i was on telly earlier-farmer— the system. i was i was on telly earlier-farmer who- the system. i was i was on telly earlier farmer who said earlier with a farmer who said he-peh— earlier with a farmer who said he-peh ahw— earlier with a farmer who said he get any labourers to he can't get any labourers to phh— he can't get any labourers to phsh pahahaes— he can't get any labourers to pick potatoes or— he can't get any labourers to pick potatoes or anything. and so pick potatoes or anything. and sa-rhare peaphe- pick potatoes or anything. and so more people from the so we need more people from the harapeah— so we need more people from the harapeah hhah.— so we need more people from the european union. no,— so we need more people from the european union. no, we don't. haw— european union. no, we don't. haw ahaah— european union. no, we don't. haw ahaah we— european union. no, we don't. how about we try— european union. no, we don't. how about we try and get some of hhese— how about we try and get some of hhese peaphe— how about we try and get some of these people assess— how about we try and get some of these people assess them and say,— these people assess them and saw-hh— these people assess them and saw-h ha— these people assess them and say,-fit to work,- these people assess them and say, fit to work, get say, if you're fit to work, get aah— say, if you're fit to work, get aah hhere — say, if you're fit to work, get out there - pick- say, if you're fit to work, get. out there-pick-spuds. say, if you're fit to work, get. out tnote-pick-spuds. say, if you're fit to work, get out tnot get pick spuds. say, if you're fit to work, get out tnot get people spuds. say, if you're fit to work, get out tnot get people off spuds. say, if you're fit to work, get out tnot get people off benefits why not get people off benefits ? i why not get people off benefits 7. hhhh— why not get people off benefits 7. hhhh we— why not get people off benefits ?-i think we have- why not get people off benefits ? i think we have we have ? and i think we have we have a hash— ? and i think we have we have a hash hraaaer— ? and i think we have we have a much broader malaise of state aepehaehsw— much broader malaise of state dependency,-just- much broader malaise of state dependency, just terms dependency, not just in terms of shhhess— dependency, not just in terms of sickness-because- sickness, but because benefits pav— sickness, but because benefits paw-hhah— sickness, but because benefits pay-than actual- sickness, but because benefits pay than actual work. h“41:;e 1“ pay more than actual work. yeah , i pay more than actual work. yeah . h aah-h— pay more than actual work. yeah . h aah-h hehp— pay more than actual work. yeah , i can't help but— pay more than actual work. yeah , i can't help but whinge about my covid and yes , i know some of my covid and yes, i know some of you wonder her. my gosh, she'll talk. michelle can't help it . i talk. michelle can't help it. i h to get this off my chest . so h to get this off my chest. so i do. you know, this whole locking down the country , making the nhs down the country, making the nhs a national covid service, the backlogs now we've not helped ourselves because so many people i'd like little twinges whatever you might have been able to go see a doctor whatever. now see a doctor or whatever. now because literally because you literally cannot barely doctor, never barely go see a doctor, never mind get it in to see consultants and stuff at hospital. are racking hospital. things are racking up for things are for people and things are getting you might be

getting worse. and you might be familiar well. mental familiar as well. it's mental health week week health awareness week this week and whilst i agree with you, there's a lot of people actually that have normal emotions that somehow themselves as somehow describe themselves as being when actually being depressed when actually what sad what they might be is sad because someone's dumped because someone's just dumped them someone's them or sad because someone's died whatever normal died or whatever, their normal natural often get natural emotions that often get categorised as an illness called depression, not withstanding that, there are a lot of people that, there are a lot of people that have proper mental health conditions in this country that are being failed . they can't get are being failed. they can't get are being failed. they can't get a hold of therapists. they can't get whatever it is get through to whatever it is that they need, cbt or whatever. they then get offered, i don't know, sessions with know, for sessions with a therapist on a computer screen and anyone that has been genuinely depressed or whatever will know that when you're feeling like that, talking to some random because it is to you a random therapist through a computer screen is not always the most helpful . so then you the most helpful. so then you see this surge in people getting diagnosed with depression and getting past these pills left, right and centre, and the amount of people , by the way, on

of people, by the way, on antidepressants will be astonishing . and i'm not astonishing. and i'm not knocking you, by the way, if that's what you feel, that you need to cope with life. i just worry about whether or not because they mask the symptoms, they don't necessarily deal with. respond to with. can i quickly respond to that? i after my mother that? i mean, after my mother ahea— that? i mean, after my mother ahealh— that? i mean, after my mother ahealh-reahhw— that? i mean, after my mother diedii-really bad- died, i had really bad depression- died, i had really bad depression and i didn't know it. my whe— depression and i didn't know it. my whe sash— depression and i didn't know it. my wife said, you— depression and i didn't know it. my wife said, you did. you yeah, h-rh — my wife said, you did. you yeah, h-rh reahhw— my wife said, you did. you yeah, h-rh reahhw haa.— my wife said, you did. you yeah, i'm really bad. and— my wife said, you did. you yeah, i'm really bad. and wife let i'm really bad. and my wife let me ash— i'm really bad. and my wife let me ash waa— i'm really bad. and my wife let me ash waa a— i'm really bad. and my wife let me ask you a question, though, hesaase— me ask you a question, though, hesaaselwaar— me ask you a question, though, because your dies. h“41:;e 1“ because if your mum dies. yeah. hha— because if your mum dies. yeah. andldon't— because if your mum dies. yeah. andldon't know,— because if your mum dies. yeah. and don't know, your family and i don't know, your family set if your mum dies, set up. if your mum dies, presumably i'm assuming you got on yeah. well on with your mum and. yeah. well you always, but most you know, not always, but most of but if you of the time. but. but if you lose your mum it's going to be a hammer blow. it's going to take the your sails, it's the wind from your sails, it's going give immense going to give you immense sadness. make you sadness. it's going to make you kind be all over the place. kind of be all over the place. discombobulated and i just think that's that's not that's normal and that's not nice. it's not normal and natural. then think what natural. and then i think what happens is then people happens sometimes is then people 90, happens sometimes is then people go, then i depressed go, oh, then i was depressed that with had that well. so with me, i'd had reahhw— that well. so with me, i'd had really hash— that well. so with me, i'd had really justlcouple _ that well. so with me, i'd had really justlcouple of- so with me, i'd had really just couple of really really just a couple of really haaph— really just a couple of really haaph wears— really just a couple of really tough years really ground down. and tough years really ground down. aha—hhhs- tough years really ground down. and—thing that- and that was the thing that appear— and that was the thing that hhppea-awer— and that was the thing that

tipped-over the- and that was the thing that tipped over the edge. and one tipped me over the edge. and one hhhs— tipped me over the edge. and one has hhah— tipped me over the edge. and one has hhah peaphe— tipped me over the edge. and one thing that people have with aepresshh— thing that people have with depression they have no depression is that they have no reshhhehse. — resilience. so the smallest hhhs— resilience. so the smallest hhhhp—hhewl resilience. so the smallest. thing—they can't thing can happen. they can't sape—hhw- thing can happen. they can't cope _tiny issuesi thing can happen. they can't. cope _tiny issues and cope with small, tiny issues and so cope with small, tiny issues and sa h— cope with small, tiny issues and sa h haa— cope with small, tiny issues and sa h haa hhah— cope with small, tiny issues and so i had that even— cope with small, tiny issues and so i had that even when i was being— so i had that even when i was being praaha— so i had that even when i was being ground down. so i had that even when i was- being ground down.-when being ground down. and then when my rhahher— being ground down. and then when my rhahher area.— being ground down. and then when my mother died, just disappeared. and took disappeared. and it took about 2 or disappeared. and it took about 2 ar—reahhsea- disappeared. and it took about 2 or_ realised this. or 3 years and i realised this hhh— or 3 years and i realised this hsh-h harrhah— or 3 years and i realised this isn't normal, i'll— or 3 years and i realised this isn't normal, i'll be quick. my whe— isn't normal, i'll be quick. my wife basically— isn't normal, i'll be quick. my wife basically-see. wife basically said, go see a hashar. — wife basically said, go see a hashar. .— wife basically said, go see a doctor. i went— wife basically said, go see a doctor. i went to— wife basically said, go see a doctor. i went to see a doctor. wahhhp— doctor. i went to see a doctor. wahhhp wehh— doctor. i went to see a doctor. nothing went-see - doctor. i went to see a doctor. nothing went see another nothing went to see another hashar. — nothing went to see another doctor. -went- nothing went to see another doctor. -went to - nothing went to see another doctor. went to see doctor. nothing. went to see ahahher— doctor. nothing. went to see another doctor. _ doctor. nothing. went to see another doctor. finally assessment - another doctor. finally— assessment - antidepressants. assessment some antidepressants. six assessment some antidepressants. she—aah- assessment some antidepressants. six—outlal six months. got myself out of a hahe.— six months. got myself out of a hahe-areas— six months. got myself out of a hole,-great, lived- six months. got myself out of a hole, great, lived my life hole, felt great, lived my life harrhahhw— hole, felt great, lived my life. harrhahhw—heeh normally again, and i just feel hhe— normally again, and i just feel hhhs-sash— normally again, and i just feel hhhs-sash a- normally again, and i just feel like such a small. normally again, and i just feel. like-such a small. and like that was such a small. and you've aah— like that was such a small. and you've aah ha— like that was such a small. and now you've got to sit— like that was such a small. and now you've got to sit next to him that's going to push you over the edge. and i love my i have— over the edge. and i love my i have my— over the edge. and i love my i have my hhe— over the edge. and i love my i have my the h— over the edge. and i love my i love my life. i love— over the edge. and i love my i love my life. i love i'm- 33 and i love my i love my life. i love i'm really hhh— love my life. i love i'm really h-rh sa— love my life. i love i'm really i'm so grateful— love my life. i love i'm really i'm so grateful to— love my life. i love i'm really i'm so grateful to be alive. hh-s— i'm so grateful to be alive. it's wonderful. _ i'm so grateful to be alive. it's wonderful. but the thing is, it's wonderful. but the thing hs-reahhw— it's wonderful. but the thing is,-really tough- it's wonderful. but the thing is, really tough period is, i had a really tough period aha— is, i had a really tough period and hhe— is, i had a really tough period and hhe whs— is, i had a really tough period and the nhs there when and the nhs was there when i needed— and the nhs was there when i heeaealhah— and the nhs was there when i needed-but the— and the nhs was there when i needed but the first two needed it. but the first two ehs— needed it. but the first two sh-s reahhw— needed it. but the first two gp's really weren't much use and i gp's really weren't much use and h-sa— gp's really weren't much use and la prahehah— gp's really weren't much use and i-so grateful-third- i am so grateful for the third wha— i am so grateful for the third one who really— i am so grateful for the third one who really got me out of hhah— one who really got me out of hhah hahe— one who really got me out of that hole and— one who really got me out of that hole and i— one who really got me out of that hole and i think so many peaphe— that hole and i think so many peaphe-aeh— that hole and i think so many peaphe-peh hhah- that hole and i think so many people get that experience people don't get that experience and people don't get that experience aha-hs— people don't get that experience and - it's terrifying - and it's, it's, it's terrifying hraahhw— and it's, it's, it's terrifying frankly-wonder- and it's, it's, it's terrifying frankly. wonder how many frankly. but i wonder how many peaphe— frankly. but i wonder how many people medicalized people are medicalized and pahhahaphea— people are medicalized and pathologized right, you pathologized and said right, you are clinically depressed, never.

ohaw. —aha- are clinically depressed, never. shah—aha days- are clinically depressed, never. i okay. _old days that okay. maybe in the old days that may not have happened. it might have just just look, get a have been just just look, get a grip yourself. stiff grip of yourself. that stiff upper are we upper lip spirit. and are we rushing to dole out pills and therefore categorising somebody? that's cheap, right? well they're cheap, right? well actually, go the actually, i can. i can go on the long term. never, never about this. i can go on the sick. i think people do gain the system. i do. yeah. and by the way, i just do. yeah. and by the way, whah— i just do. yeah. and by the way, whah sae— i just do. yeah. and by the way, what some people— i just do. yeah. and by the way, what some people do- r:r:r yeah. and by the way, what some people do not realise aha— what some people do not realise aha-hesa— what some people do not realise and-been clear— what some people do not realise and-been clear on- what some people do not realise and been clear on this and i've been clear on this shaw— and i've been clear on this shawlhhea— and i've been clear on this show,ilived with- and i've been clear on this show, lived with suicidal show, i lived with suicidal haeahhah— show, i lived with suicidal haeahhahla— show, i lived with suicidal ideation.a very,- show, i lived with suicidal ideation a very, very, very ideation for a very, very, very hahe— ideation for a very, very, very hahe hhhs.— ideation for a very, very, very long time-god- ideation for a very, very, very long time. god it's gone. long time. thank god it's gone. whah— long time. thank god it's gone. whah-aaah— long time. thank god it's gone. what-don't realise- long time. thank god it's gone. what don't realise often what people don't realise often is what people don't realise often hs-waa— what people don't realise often hs-waa sharh— is when you start antidepressants, they can shhhahahe— antidepressants, they can shhhsahe— antidepressants, they can shhh sa waa — antidepressants, they can stim so you do- antidepressants, they can stim so you do need to advance you. so you do need to advance whhh— you. so you do need to advance whhh sae— you. so you do need to advance with care when— you. so you do need to advance with care when you— you. so you do need to advance with care when you start those hhhps— with care when you start those hhhps anyway.— with care when you start those things anyway. what do you make to things anyway. what do you make ha-were— things anyway. what do you make ha-were we— things anyway. what do you make to-were we happier- to it all? were we happier hehare— to it all? were we happier hehe-hh— to it all? were we happier before-it-a- to it all? were we happier before-it-a stiff| to it all? were we happier- before-it-a stiff upper before when it was a stiff upper lip before when it was a stiff upper hhp—or— before when it was a stiff upper hp—or aw— before when it was a stiff upper lip _or now when - lip mentality? or now when peaphe— lip mentality? or now when- people—depressed? people seemingly are depressed? a people seemingly are depressed? h—hahhp— people seemingly are depressed? h—hahha pira- a lot and are taking pills? i aah-h— a lot and are taking pills? i aaah—ahe- a lot and are taking pills? i. aah-h—ahe-hhe don't know which one were the happhesh— don't know which one were the happhesh-hehh- don't know which one were the happiest-tell me- don't know which one were the happiest-tell me .- don't know which one were the happiest tell me . gb happiest in you. tell me. gb vhews— happiest in you. tell me. gb vhews hhah— happiest in you. tell me. gb views that gbnews.uk is how you get views that gbnews.uk is how you eeh hahe— views that gbnews.uk is how you eeh has at— views that gbnews.uk is how you peh has at he— views that gbnews.uk is how you get hold of me tonight and do you— get hold of me tonight and do waa hae— get hold of me tonight and do you ride buses?— get hold of me tonight and do you ride buses? you might even be you ride buses? you might even he hhshehhp— you ride buses? you might even be listening to— you ride buses? you might even be listening to me— you ride buses? you might even be listening to me while the be listening to me while on the has.— be listening to me while on the has. hha— be listening to me while on the has. has h— be listening to me while on the has. has h waa— be listening to me while on the bus. and if you are— be listening to me while on the bus. and if you are well done, you— bus. and if you are well done, waa ss— bus. and if you are well done, you as hares— bus. and if you are well done, you £2 fares. .you - bus. and if you are well done, you £2 fares. you think they you £2 fares. do you think they shaaha— you £2 fares. do you think they shaaha he— you £2 fares. do you think they should be extended? basic ad

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news. britain's news . channel news. britain's news. channel hehha— news. britain's news. channel hehhahhere. — news. britain's news. channel hello there. i'm— news. britain's news. channel hello there. ii t hello there. i'm michelle dewberry alongside me. former brexit party mep martin daubney and the co—founder of novara media, aaron bastani . welcome media, aaron bastani. welcome back , everybody. not a lot of back, everybody. not a lot of massive sympathy coming through at this moment in time for the harry and meghan situation. jeff you're saying it's all been set up for publicity? really i don't know about that. i'm sure it might. all come out, martin says. why didn't they just drive to a police station, then drop, done, says. i don't know . to a police station, then drop, done, says. i don't know. i done, he says. i don't know. i suspect some more footage might come and will affect perhaps come out and will affect perhaps how we think about it or not. diane on the sick note diane says on the sick note thing wouldn't take six thing, who wouldn't take six months of pay? full pay. you make a good point there. whether you get it. yeah. stephen you can get it. yeah. stephen says michelle, work says michelle, honest, hard work has people long term sick . has made people long term sick. really? you think people have gone off because they've been working too hard? i don't know .

working too hard? i don't know. a sickness through mental health, says neil, is people jumping on the bandwagon. goodness me , richard says. i've goodness me, richard says. i've had seven heart attacks. a tia . had seven heart attacks. a tia. what's a tia? i know it sounds serious. tia. i don't know. anyway, richard's had seven heart attacks and a tia and he's got an under nosed chronic issue. and he says, i still managed to work full time. he's made of sterner stuff . gary's made of sterner stuff. gary's not messing around. he says too many brits are suffering from idolator . oh, harsh man. you are idolator. oh, harsh man. you are you on long term sick? if you are, i want to hear from you particularly. do you think it's harsh people like gary that are saying basically you're bone idle is that kind of idle? is that is that kind of like a discrimination that you get i don't know. get all the time? i don't know. you tell me anyway, you ride you tell me anyway, do you ride buses? if you do, you'll know that you've been enjoying a £2 fare, here in england. that you've been enjoying a £2 fartyou here in england. that you've been enjoying a £2 fartyou reckon,iere in england. that you've been enjoying a £2 fartyou reckon, though, ngland. that you've been enjoying a £2 fartyou reckon, though, that�*id. that you've been enjoying a £2 fartyou reckon, though, that that do you reckon, though, that that fare extend forever? why fare should extend forever? why stop at all? the £2 fare gets stop it at all? the £2 fare gets people onto public transport, doesn't it? we've been out and about in melton about so we have in melton mowbray. love those pies

mowbray. i love those pies asking people what they think to £2 bus fares . i think they £2 bus fares. i think they shaaha— £2 bus fares. i think they shaaha heep— £2 bus fares. i think they should keep the- 17:2 ”et1:;~er i think they should keep the bus 17:2 ”eh1:;~er i think they should keep the bus £2 cap if exhehaea— should keep the bus £2 cap if extended because basically it's hhe— extended because basically it's hh-s— extended because basically it's nice, it's convenient, it's sheap— nice, it's convenient, it's sheap aha— nice, it's convenient, it's cheap and it— nice, it's convenient, it's cheap and it makes people use the cheap and it makes people use hhe has— cheap and it makes people use hhe has . — cheap and it makes people use hhe has . ha.— cheap and it makes people use the bus. no, i— cheap and it makes people use the bus . no, i don't.- cheap and it makes people use the bus . \r1:rr:r1:r“. cheap and it makes people use the bus. \r1:rr:r1:r“. the bus. no, i don't. i think now you can put them up because people can afford to go on the bus. it's cheap enough. yes, definitely. especially for the ahaer— definitely. especially for the ahaer aes— definitely. especially for the older ones as— definitely. especially for the older ones as well. - r:r1:;” 1“ .r1:;4«r especially for the older ones as well. the old peaphe— older ones as well. the old people, because— older ones as well. the old people, because they do take a lot people, because they do take a hah ah— people, because they do take a hah ah haes— people, because they do take a lot of buses, don't— people, because they do take a lot of buses, don't they? yes i a.— lot of buses, don't they? yes i ha. hesaase— lot of buses, don't they? yes i do, because at— lot of buses, don't they? yes i do, because at the— lot of buses, don't they? yes i do, because at the end of the day,— do, because at the end of the haw a— do, because at the end of the haw a hah— do, because at the end of the dayr a hah ah— do, because at the end of the day, a lot of us— do, because at the end of the day, a lot of us can't really ashra— day, a lot of us can't really ahara has— day, a lot of us can't really afford bus fares. “r: afford bus fares. so to pound would be ideal for us to travel everywhere because everybody everywhere because not everybody drives. she's right. not everybody drives- r: . . g not everybody drives melton drives. she's right. not- everybody drives melton mowbray hark— everybody drives melton mowbray harh pres— everybody drives melton mowbray harh phes hash— everybody drives melton mowbray pork pies must always be served whhh— pork pies must always be served whhh sahaa— pork pies must always be served with salad cream— pork pies must always be served with salad cream .— pork pies must always be served with salad cream . no, i feel with salad cream. no, i feel very— with salad cream. no, i feel very shrahphw— with salad cream. no, i feel very strongly about that. oh, i heh— very strongly about that. oh, i heeh very— very strongly about that. oh, i feel very strongly— very strongly about that. oh, i feel very strongly about and now i feel very strongly about and now h aehhhhehw— feel very strongly about and now i definitely want— feel very strongly about and now i definitely want a— feel very strongly about and now i definitely want a pot pie. hhwwaw— i definitely want a pot pie. anyway a— i definitely want a pot pie. anyway a ss— i definitely want a pot pie. anyway a £2 bus fares. what do you— anyway a £2 bus fares. what do waa hahe— anyway a £2 bus fares. what do you make ha— anyway a £2 bus fares. what do you make to them— anyway a £2 bus fares. what do you make to them extending it? i wehh.— you make to them extending it? i mean. well, everybody- you make to them extending it? i mean. cpl, 4 mean. well, everybody likes cheap stuff . everybody likes cheap stuff. everybody likes free stuff. but i don't think £2

a fare is that cheap? actually, maybe a fare is that cheap? actually, hawhe h-rh — a fare is that cheap? actually, maybe r-rh hash— a fare is that cheap? actually, maybe i'm just being- t“ actually, maybe i'm just being tight. wehh.— maybe i'm just being tight. wehh. same— maybe i'm just being tight. well, some of— maybe i'm just being tight. well, some of-bus- maybe i'm just being tight. i well, some of-bus fares in well, some of the bus fares in question when you look at question here. when you look at them across pennines are them across the pennines are astonishing. £18.50 to get from kendal to lancaster. and that's only like a 50 minute drive. i was in nottingham at the weekend. i took the bus. i take busesin weekend. i took the bus. i take buses in london. i get around on buses in london. i get around on buses a lot. i love buses, but nothing is free. i spoke to nothing is for free. i spoke to richard holden earlier. the transport and i put it transport minister and i put it to him. if you're putting transport minister and i put it to hi£1 if you're putting transport minister and i put it to hi£1 billion,f you're putting transport minister and i put it to hi£1 billion, that'se putting transport minister and i put it to hi£1 billion, that's what:ing half £1 billion, that's what this is costing half £1 billion to make fares . £2. it's the to make fares. £2. it's the government basically paying the rest the fare, subsidising it rest of the fare, subsidising it to private companies. owns to private companies. who owns the companies ? where the private companies? where does money go? goes to does that money go? it goes to shareholders. is basically shareholders. this is basically the government giving money to private companies to have cheaper stuff for the public. but the point is this none of this is for free. and actually motorists are the cash cow that are being milked dry. you get untaxed and clean air zones , you untaxed and clean air zones, you get intact, drive by the mile that will come smart motorways , that will come smart motorways, cameras everywhere, variable

speed limits, cameras left , speed limits, cameras left, right and centre fining us motorists are getting ripped off. left right and centre. that's what's paying for this . that's what's paying for this. and i think there's a huge disconnect that trains are always on strike, they're unreliable. they talked about national izing them. they've had to nationalise them in trans to nationalise them in the trans pennine they're so pennine way because they're so unreliable. to me feels unreliable. all this to me feels like a form nationalisation. like a form of nationalisation. it's the government. it's not the government. it's you , me. the government. it's you, me. it's every taxpayer at home paying it's every taxpayer at home paying bus fares , paying for cheap bus fares, whereas actually it's motorists who are picking up the tab. good point. whereas, who are picking up the tab. good point . whereas, darren. well, point. whereas, darren. well, i weharhe— point. whereas, darren. well, i welcome martin's— whereas, darren. well, i welcome martin's join the cause of welcome martin's join the cause at bringing— welcome martin's join the cause of bringing buses— welcome martin's join the cause of bringing buses back into pahhh— of bringing buses back into public ownership because i agree hhah— public ownership because i agree hhah hhere— public ownership because i agree hhah hhere hs— public ownership because i agree that there is a— public ownership because i agree that there is a clearly big prahherh — that there is a clearly big prahherh h— that there is a clearly big problem if you're giving large ah— problem if you're giving large sums of money— problem if you're giving large sums of money to private sapaes— sums of money to private companies which then pay ahhaehas— companies which then pay dividends shareholders, and dividends to shareholders, and hhah-s—rhahhh that's the whole logic, right? hs— that's the whole logic, right? rte—aha- that's the whole logic, right? it's—and they're. it's run for profit and they're more efficient shareholders more efficient and shareholders are a as a result. are rewarded as a as a result. so i there's a big so i think there's a big conflict you're right to conflict there. you're right to say had the fortune of say i've had the fortune of living london recently and living in london recently and also at the moment. also portsmouth at the moment. i'm from bournemouth. i would

never getting a bus in never dream of getting a bus in bournemouth portsmouth. why bournemouth or portsmouth. why it's inefficient it's too expensive. inefficient turn hour. turn up every half an hour. sometimes they just sometimes they won't. they just won't have to won't turn up. so you have to wait an in london every wait an hour in london every five minutes. quick, cheap . you five minutes. quick, cheap. you can charge your phone, you can even charge your phone, you know think personal. why know. so i think personal. why can't we have buses like we have in london across the whole country? it's something which i've always is the i've always is that is the demand there for some places. absolutely. yes. because that's ah— absolutely. yes. because that's ah hhe— absolutely. yes. because that's one of the challenges,- 4r1:;4«r h“41:;~er because that's one of the challenges, though. she— one of the challenges, though. are at— one of the challenges, though. are at hhe— one of the challenges, though. one of the push— one of the challenges, though. one of the push will say one of the push backs will say parhhaharhw— one of the push backs will say particularly-more— one of the push backs will say particularly more rural and particularly in more rural and disconnected— particularly in more rural and disconnected places, the serwhes— disconnected places, the sewhes are— disconnected places, the services are few and far between hesaase— services are few and far between because-demand— services are few and far between because demand few and because the demand is few and far hehweeh. — because the demand is few and far between. well,— because the demand is few and far between. 341644 far between. well, south hampshire million hampshire is 1.5 million people. so fareham, so you've got fareham, southampton. is a big southampton. portsmouth is a big you know, it's a big urban area. and there'll be times you know, it's a big urban area. and my there'll be times you know, it's a big urban area. and my mother ere'll be times you know, it's a big urban area. and my mother int'll be times you know, it's a big urban area. and my mother in law»e times you know, it's a big urban area. and my mother in law wantsts you know, it's a big urban area. and my mother in law wants to when my mother in law wants to come and see us. she she doesn't live very far away. she lives a 15 minute car drive away. she can't it will her can't drive and it will cost her the part eight, £9 on the best part of eight, £9 on a sunday to come and see us with a return bus ticket. not with this, obviously, but before . and this, obviously, but before. and the bus might sort the last bus might leave at sort of 6 or something. and you of 6 pm. or something. and you

think, crikey, that's no way to run service. is like run a service. and this is like i said, in an urban area of i said, it's in an urban area of 1.5 million people. portsmouth is 350,000 it's not is 350,000 people. it's not tiny. do think tiny. so i do think that particularly in medium larger particularly in medium to larger cities, we're failing on cities, we're really failing on things affordable, things like affordable, efficient services. yeah, efficient bus services. yeah, and that we and you're dead right that we have—aha- have a metropolitan and parhhaharhw— have a metropolitan and particularly london centric pahhh— particularly london centric public structure ,, particularly london centric- public-structure ,, hs2 public transport structure,, hs2 , a public transport structure,, hs2 . a shoo— public transport structure,, hs2 , a £100 billion— public transport structure,, hs2 , a £100 billion white elephant shaaha— , a £100 billion white elephant shaaha he— , a £100 billion white elephant should be scrapped. well, i was wheh— should be scrapped. well, i was when r— should be scrapped. well, i was when r was— should be scrapped. well, i was when i was campaigning and eheshea— when i was campaigning and eheshea h— when i was campaigning and elected in the— when i was campaigning and elected in the west midlands, hahaaw— elected in the west midlands, nobody wanted— elected in the west midlands, nobody wanted it. many people wha— nobody wanted it. many people wha wahhs— nobody wanted it. many people who wants this— nobody wanted it. many people who wants this is— nobody wanted it. many people who wants this is politicians. it who wants this is politicians. hh—ha- who wants this is politicians. hh—ha ahal who wants this is politicians. - hh—ha and ham it gets businessmen to and from hahaah— it gets businessmen to and from hahaah ha— it gets businessmen to and from london to birmingham 12 minutes harsher.— london to birmingham 12 minutes aahher. sa— london to birmingham 12 minutes aahher. sa whah— london to birmingham 12 minutes quicker. so what we need more in the quicker. so what we need more in hhe h— quicker. so what we need more in hhe h hhe— quicker. so what we need more in hhe h hhe h— quicker. so what we need more in the in the in the— quicker. so what we need more in the in the in the in— quicker. so what we need more in the in the in the in the phses— the in the in the in the provinces in— the in the in the in the provinces in the regions nottinghamshire, derbyshire harhshhre— nottinghamshire, derbyshire yorkshire to— nottinghamshire, derbyshire yorkshire to allow ordinary warhhaa— yorkshire to allow ordinary working people to get around sheaper— working people to get around sheaper .— working people to get around cheaper . everyone in cheaper. not everyone lives in haahaa— cheaper. not everyone lives in haahaa-peaphe- cheaper. not everyone lives in london, people who make london, but the people who make the london, but the people who make hhe-as— london, but the people who make hhe-as hhew— london, but the people who make hhe-as hhew ah- london, but the people who make the-as they all live- the decisions as they all live in the decisions as they all live ha-wehh— the decisions as they all live in _well, lots- the decisions as they all live in _well, lots of. the decisions as they all livei in _well, lots of you the decisions as they all live- in _well, lots of you are in london. well, lots of you are getting in touch, jim says. if we can cap bus fares, why can't we can cap bus fares, why can't we train fares as well? ken we cap train fares as well? ken says, i find a ride be says, i find a bus ride to be relaxing thing. can i give a big shout massive thank shout out and a massive thank you bus drivers in general?

you to bus drivers in general? you're not talking you're obviously not talking about ken you about the night buses. ken you won't find those things relaxing. can tell you. by relaxing. i can tell you. and by the way, i think you can tell a person's age and stage in life by they sit a bus. when by where they sit on a bus. when i was much younger, i used to want upstairs the back want to be upstairs at the back of i used to think of that bus. i used to think i was super cool. then i moved upstairs to the front of the bus. now would not sit bus. now i would not sit upstairs a bus if you paid upstairs on a bus if you paid me. i don't know why. i think it's a rough if i want to be it's a bit rough if i want to be down, i've got a pram with me most times anyway, so i need to be in the middle where the pram is. i wouldn't upstairs is. but i wouldn't sit upstairs on would you? i do quite on a bus, would you? i do quite like the backseat. you're not prahahhw— like the backseat. you're not probably-meant- like the backseat. you're not probably-meant to- probably not meant to have a hhhhhe— probably not meant to have a hhhhhe pha— probably not meant to have a little gin and— probably not meant to have a little gin and tonic. diane hhhahh— little gin and tonic. diane abbott did.— little gin and tonic. diane abbott did. oh, yeah. occasionally i do myself on the hahes. — occasionally i do myself on the hahes. -was- occasionally i do myself on the tubes. _was it.- occasionally i do myself on the tubes. _was it. she. occasionally i do myself on the. tubes. _was it. she was tubes. that was. was it. she was having a. yeah. she had a can of chianti. peter says. yeah. chianti. peter says. yeah yeah. well done lot in england well done you lot in england michelle. so—and—so michelle. you're lucky so—and—so as i'm dundee. we as he says i'm in dundee. we have pay for pound £0.40 he have to pay for pound £0.40 he says says and i get says and he says and i get a rubbish service as well. well to be honest i don't to be be honest i don't mean to be rude, actually it's quite

rude, but actually it's quite nice something a nice that we get something a little cheaper in england little bit cheaper in england because a lot of people will be shouting like shouting about things like prescription the cost prescription bins and the cost differences the two. differences between the two. they're she says. even they're less, she says. even if you paid me, i wouldn't get on a bus. why what's wrong with you paid me, i wouldn't get on a bus. will what's wrong with you paid me, i wouldn't get on a bus. wii don't what's wrong with you paid me, i wouldn't get on a bus. wii don't know. 5 wrong with you paid me, i wouldn't get on a bus. wii don't know. youmg with you paid me, i wouldn't get on a bus. wii don't know. you a; with you paid me, i wouldn't get on a bus. wii don't know. you a bitith a bus.7 i don't know. you a bit of a a bus? i don't know. you a bit of a snob, les found it. anyway, a quick break. when i come back, your thoughts on that. also i want ask you a very simple want to ask you a very simple question. do think that we question. do you think that we should be paying should basically be paying criminals the uk.

hello, i'm michelle dewberry alongside me, the former brexit party mep martin daubney and the co—founder of novara media, aaron bastani peter's has been in touch saying sorry philip, the £2 bus fares in leeds have got unintended consequences . got unintended consequences. yes, he likes the fee, but what he's saying is that the service is there as a result of being massively stripped back. so yes,

cheaper fares . but he's saying cheaper fares. but he's saying he's gone from his service, has gone from every ten minutes to every 30 minutes. that's a little bit naughty, isn't it? i'm sure was not the i'm sure that was not the intention. let's talk intention. anyway let's talk criminals, we get this criminals, shall we get this right? if somebody has crossed over the let's just say over the channel, let's just say from shouldn't be here. from albania shouldn't be here. they've committed a crime. they've committed a crime. they've sent prison . are they've been sent to prison. are you ready? should we? it makes me laugh. sometimes can't help me laugh. sometimes i can't help it i just it because sometimes i just think so ridiculous think there's so much ridiculous stuff on in this country. stuff goes on in this country. it bit laughable, stuff goes on in this country. it but bit laughable, stuff goes on in this country. it but anyway,ghable, stuff goes on in this country. it but anyway, doible, think really. but anyway, do you think we should paying these people we should be paying these people basically back to albania? basically to go back to albania? £1,500? is basically the sum of money. they have to waive their rights to appeal and all the rest of it. some of them are. i reckon they'd be back here in five minutes if they took up that offer. martin what do you make to it all? well, it's symptomatic of an utterly broken system. um, that system. um, the fact that anybody— system. um, the fact that anybody -albania - say um, the fact that anybody albania is anybody from albania is classified— anybody from albania is classified as— anybody from albania is classified as somebody who can be human— classified as somebody who can be human trafficked or a victim of slavery.— be human trafficked or a victim of slavery. albania— be human trafficked or a victim of slavery. albania is a safe country.— of slavery. albania is a safe country. other— of slavery. albania is a safe country. other are very progressive—

country. other are very progressive european countries. eu progressive european countries. bu membe— progressive european countries. eu member states such as sweden . bees— eu member states such as sweden . beee be— eu member states such as sweden . does he recognise— eu member states such as sweden . does he recognise albanians as somebody,— . does he recognise albanians as somebody, ee— . does he recognise albanians as somebody, be e— . does he recognise albanians as somebody, as a country, worthwhile— somebody, as a country, worthwhile of- somebody, as a country, worthwhile of asylum simply bee— worthwhile of asylum simply bee meb— worthwhile of asylum simply because they shouldn't be? ' z because they shouldn't be? and memb— because they shouldn't be? and didn't sweden— because they shouldn't be? and didn't sweden correct— because they shouldn't be? and didn't sweden correct me if i'm wrong, my memory. i'm getting old these days. didn't they just push this through as like a very quick short bill that said, it was so simple, it basically said it's a designated a safe country. it wasn't this convoluted complex, 70,000 page legal document . you all correct. legal document. you all correct. me— legal document. you all correct. me eb— legal document. you all correct. me of course— legal document. you all correct. me be .— legal document. you all correct. and of course , sweden- g 211 you all correct. and of course , sweden is g 22 you all correct. and of course , sweden is an g 222. you all correct. and of course , sweden is an eu and of course, sweden is an eu membe— and of course, sweden is an eu member state. _ and of course, sweden is an eu member state. so— and of course, sweden is an eu member state. so let's not use me— member state. so let's not use me bmebeem— member state. so let's not use the european union as a bogevman-_ the european union as a bogeyman. why we can't do this? it's bogeyman. why we can't do this? be e— bogeyman. why we can't do this? be e beek— bogeyman. why we can't do this? be a back eb— bogeyman. why we can't do this? it's a lack of political guts. me— it's a lack of political guts. be e— it's a lack of political guts. be e beek— it's a lack of political guts. it's a lack of— it's a lack of political guts. it's a lack of will. sunak memb— it's a lack of will. sunak memb ebb— it's a lack of will. sunak memb gee e— it's a lack of will. sunak hasn't got a handle on this wbebeeever— hasn't got a handle on this whatsoever .— hasn't got a handle on this whatsoever . the very notion we whatsoever. the very notion we ebebbe— whatsoever. the very notion we ebebbe bey— whatsoever. the very notion we ebebbe bay beebbe— whatsoever. the very notion we should pay people to clear off out be— should pay people to clear off out be me— should pay people to clear off out of the country— should pay people to clear off out of the country because it's ebeeber— out of the country because it's ebeeber mem— out of the country because it's cheaper than allowing them to go memb— cheaper than allowing them to go bmebeb e— cheaper than allowing them to go bmebgb e mbe— cheaper than allowing them to go through a kind of— cheaper than allowing them to go through a kind of drawn out beeeb— through a kind of drawn out begeb beeeee— through a kind of drawn out legal process .— through a kind of drawn out legal process. us through a kind of drawn out legal process . us utterly legal process. us utterly exemplifies— legal process. us utterly exemplifies how radical ulus our eebmm— exemplifies how radical ulus our eebmm bee— exemplifies how radical ulus our country has become . we should country has become. we should meb— country has become. we should be ebebbem-b— country has become. we should they shouldn't be— country has become. we should they shouldn't be allowed in the me— they shouldn't be allowed in the me mace.— they shouldn't be allowed in the first place, and— they shouldn't be allowed in the first place, and they should be bem— first place, and they should be sent smegm— first place, and they should be sent straight-if- first place, and they should be sent straight if so, and sent straight back. if so, and me— sent straight back. if so, and be memen— sent straight back. if so, and the notion of— sent straight back. if so, and the notion of paying criminality,- the notion of paying criminality, think, the notion of paying criminality,ithink, make criminality, i think, will make

viewers-head- criminality, i think, will make viewers-head up- criminality, i think, will make viewers head up their viewers at home head up their bebbee— viewers at home head up their bebbee emb— viewers at home head up their tables and despair their head, put tables and despair their head, bub bem— tables and despair their head, bub yem bebbe— tables and despair their head, put your table in— tables and despair their head, put your table in despair beee— put your table in despair because it's— put your table in despair because it's tea time. /2. because it's tea time. you beebbbby— because it's tea time. you mommy-bem- because it's tea time. you probably your tea in it. if probably got your tea in it. if you put your table, you're you had put your table, you're going with your pie going to end up with your pie and mash or whatever you're eating all over your forehead. that's good look. this is that's not a good look. this is a facilitated return scheme. it's way, you a facilitated return scheme. it's to way, you a facilitated return scheme. it's to look way, you a facilitated return scheme. it's to look into way, you a facilitated return scheme. it's to look into itray, you a facilitated return scheme. it's to look into it more.you want to look into it more. aaron, your thoughts? yeah so i think there's a few points- 22“ ” $2.2 “227 “22“ so i think there's a few points here. memb.— think there's a few points here. memb. .— think there's a few points here. firstly, i think— think there's a few points here. firstly, i think that that's mem— firstly, i think that that's right-albania- firstly, i think that that's right albania is not right that albania is not afghanistan,— right that albania is not afghanistan, iraq, right that albania is not- afghanistan,-iraq, it's afghanistan, it's not iraq, it's me— afghanistan, it's not iraq, it's not symb— afghanistan, it's not iraq, it's not syria. ithink— afghanistan, it's not iraq, it's not syria. think that's quite not syria. i think that's quite i not syria. i think that's quite . mmb— not syria. i think that's quite | think that's— not syria. i think that's quite i think that's quite clear. and beebbe— i think that's quite clear. and beebbe seeking— i think that's quite clear. and people seeking political asylum bere— people seeking political asylum here-albania,— people seeking political asylum here albania, know, here from albania, i you know, i mmb—mme- think it's a strange thing beeeemebby. — think it's a strange thing. personally. _that think it's a strange thing- personally. _that the personally. let's park that the ease-m— personally. let's park that the case-in regards- personally. let's park that the case -in regards to - personally. let's park that the case in regards to the case here in regards to the mboo— case here in regards to the ebboo be— case here in regards to the ebboo be e— case here in regards to the £1,500 is a is— case here in regards to the £1,500 is a is a— case here in regards to the £1,500 is a is a who £1,500 is a is a man who was bee— £1,500 is a is a man who was me eebbeb— £1,500 is a is a man who was me eebbeb .— £1,500 is a is a man who was he's called i think- £1,500 is a is a man who was he's called i think him mark by the he's called i think him mark by ebe-be— he's called i think him mark by ebe-be wee— he's called i think him mark by the- he was given - he's called i think him mark by the he was given six years the bbc. he was given six years for the bbc. he was given six years be e— the bbc. he was given six years be e embe— the bbc. he was given six years for a drugs related— the bbc. he was given six years for a drugs related offence so bee— for a drugs related offence so me gemg— for a drugs related offence so me bomb-ewe- for a drugs related offence so he's going two thirds he's going to serve two thirds of he's going to serve two thirds ebb-beb— he's going to serve two thirds of- he'll serve - he's going to serve two thirds of he'll serve years of that. he'll serve four years beee— of that. he'll serve four years because—like- of that. he'll serve four years because—like most because drugs isn't like most effemeee— because drugs isn't like most offences. actually tend to offences. you actually tend to seme— offences. you actually tend to serve mebe— offences. you actually tend to serve meeb eb— offences. you actually tend to serve most of the— offences. you actually tend to serve most of the time. let me ask— serve most of the time. let me ask you— serve most of the time. let me ask you ebb. — serve most of the time. let me ask you this. you see, i am not serve most of the time. let me as charge�*lis. you see, i am not serve most of the time. let me as charge of. you see, i am not serve most of the time. let me as charge of this see, i am not serve most of the time. let me as charge of this country,m not serve most of the time. let me as charge of this country, butot in charge of this country, but if i was so this fella, what you just call him mark. mark as a pseudonym? 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mark he does this. what? drug offence? i sounds like offence? see, i sounds like dealing, right? yeah, but i wouldn't it. wouldn't have any of it. i wouldn't have any of it. i wouldn't why is he. how's wouldn't even. why is he. how's then in a uk prison? why isn't he deported that point? he then deported at that point? well so hold on. i think well be— well so hold on. i think well me am— well so hold on. i think well it's an extent— well so hold on. i think well it's an extent that's where mere-e— it's an extent that's where there's-thing- it's an extent that's where there's thing comes there's £1,500 thing comes in mem- — right. because he's already in bmeem— right. because he's already in bebeem me— right. because he's already in prison, it's been— right. because he's already in prison, it's been prison and prison, it's been in prison and mew-beefing— prison, it's been in prison and now getting £1,500 and a now he's getting £1,500 and a year— now he's getting £1,500 and a year em— now he's getting £1,500 and a year off me— now he's getting £1,500 and a year off his sentence to go. bub— year off his sentence to go. bub mm— year off his sentence to go. bub uby me— year off his sentence to go. but why are you— year off his sentence to go. but why are you in- year off his sentence to go. but why are you in this- year off his sentence to go. but why are you in this prison in first place? i think in the first place? i think prime minister michel would probably more money probably save even more money than this. but what they're probably save even more money than this is,eut what they're probably save even more money than this is, look,lat they're probably save even more money than this is, look, it they're probably save even more money than this is, look, i think're probably save even more money than this is, look, i think per claiming is, look, i think per year— claiming is, look, i think per yeulbuve— claiming is, look, i think per year have somebody in prison claiming is, look, i think per ye this have somebody in prison claiming is, look, i think per ye this country)mebody in prison claiming is, look, i think per ye this country is ebody in prison claiming is, look, i think per ye this country is aroundn prison in this country is around 25.000.— in this country is around £55,000, £60,000 year. what £55,000, £60,000 a year. what they—bobb- £55,000, £60,000 a year. what bbey—beeb be-el they would say is, look, he's been— they would say is, look, he's beemlbbeee— they would say is, look, he's been .there _years.| been in there for two years. ue-u— been in there for two years. ue-u beve— been in there for two years. ue-u buve be— been in there for two years. he'd have to serve another two. wee— he'd have to serve another two. weulebemume— he'd have to serve another two. we'd-spending as- he'd have to serve another two. we'd spending as the taxpayer we'd be spending as the taxpayer 110, we'd be spending as the taxpayer be. be— we'd be spending as the taxpayer be. be gumb— we'd be spending as the taxpayer 110, 130 grand on— we'd be spending as the taxpayer 110, 130 grand on guy. 110, 130 grand on the guy. mebeub— 110, 130 grand on the guy. instead,-give- 110, 130 grand on the guy. instead, give him 110, 130 grand on the guy. - instead,-give him £1,500 instead, we can give him £1,500 to instead, we can give him £1,500 be 90— instead, we can give him £1,500 be be bueb— instead, we can give him £1,500 be 90 beeb. new.— instead, we can give him £1,500 to go back. now, what martin ueube— to go back. now, what martin ueube bey— to go back. now, what martin ueube my be.— to go back. now, what martin would say is, well, may would say is, well, he may ebum— would say is, well, he may return _creatingl return and you're creating meembvee— return and you're creating incentives—in. return and you're creating. incentives—in the return and you're creating- incentives_in the uk incentives for people in the uk bmeem— incentives for people in the uk bmeemlbbe— incentives for people in the uk prison .the first— incentives for people in the uk prison the first place. :�* incentives for people in the uk prm�*22 the first place. :�* incentives for people in the uk er2 he first place. :�* incentives for people in the uk er2. 2.st place. :�* incentives for people in the uk pm2 �*" place. “2 incentives for people in the uk pm2 �*" 2e. " incentives for people in the uk is what i'm not if he's an albanian national that's then committed crime here, why he albanian national that's then condeported ime here, why he albanian national that's then condeported ate here, why he albanian national that's then condeported ate hepoint|y he albanian national that's then condeported ate hepoint of he not deported at the point of criminality gone? well the legal laws, i'm forgive me if i'm laws, if i'm forgive me if i'm mistaken, is you've been in mistaken, is if you've been in the country for more than one

yean the country for more than one year, then the whim year, then you are at the whim of uk judiciary system. of the uk judiciary system. therefore, serve your your therefore, you serve your your your— therefore, you serve your your your-here. - therefore, you serve your your your-here. but- therefore, you serve your your your here. but you're your sentence here. but you're right— your sentence here. but you're right-return- your sentence here. but you're right return because right about the return because a thousand— right about the return because a thousand of— right about the return because a thousand of these— right about the return because a thousand of these people have eunu— thousand of these people have return _violent- return among them violent criminals— return among them violent criminals dealers. criminals and drug dealers. so we have— criminals and drug dealers. so we have-illegals- criminals and drug dealers. so we have illegals who are we have yo—yo illegals who are being— we have yo—yo illegals who are being-out— we have yo—yo illegals who are being-out of— we have yo—yo illegals who are being-out of the- we have yo—yo illegals who are being out of the country being kicked out of the country and— being kicked out of the country and-coming— being kicked out of the country and-coming-backl being kicked out of the countryi and-coming-back in. and are coming straight back in. and— and are coming straight back in. and-the— and are coming straight back in. and-the point.— and are coming straight back in. and the point. where's and that's the point. where's the— and that's the point. where's the-if— and that's the point. where's rue-u you-re- and that's the point. where's the if you're avoiding the deterrent if you're avoiding choker— chokey in britain, you're gerrrng—uucki chokey in britain, you're. getting—back to getting dosh to go back to murru— getting dosh to go back to albania. getting out getting dosh to go back to albania.-getting out a albania. you're getting out on a sherr— albania. you're getting out on a sum—coming- short term, you're coming srrurgrrr— short term, you're coming straight-repeat. straight back to repeat criminality. _ criminality. it's insane, murmu— criminality. it's insane, michel. l is - criminality. it's insane, michel. is insane. jrzzr criminality. it's insane,— michel..is insane. do we know michel. it is insane. do we know rum— michel. it is insane. do we know rrrr? r— michel. it is insane. do we know that? i mean, i do wonder, you know, even if there's 5 or 600 people mark, who basically people like mark, who basically aren't prison, aren't costing aren't in prison, aren't costing us her majesty, his us money at her majesty, his majesty's pleasure, i mean, i wonder i'd love see the wonder i'd love to see the numbers it, frankly. how numbers on it, frankly. how many, know, have been given many, you know, have been given this money? because and this kind of money? because and what savings look like what the savings look like because, it might not because, you know, it might not i like sound it, i don't like the sound of it, but it might be saving the taxpayers serious money. you taxpayers serious money. do you know think it's time for? know what i think it's time for? when it comes to all of this mrgrurroru— when it comes to all of this migration, illegal migration srruurroru— migration, illegal migration situation, think it's time situation, i think it's time for rus— situation, i think it's time for this—al situation, i think it's time for. nus—u purr situation, i think it's time for. thiballs_a pair situation, i think it's time for. thiballs and—a pair situation, i think it's time for thiballs and to a pair situation, i think it's time for thiballs and to actually a pair situation, i think it's time for thiballs and to actually say,air of balls and to actually say, you— of balls and to actually say, you know— of balls and to actually say, you know what,— of balls and to actually say, you know what, we're going to road— you know what, we're going to road by— you know what, we're going to

lead by example,— you know what, we're going to lead by example, whether it's rououuo— lead by example, whether it's rwanda whatever policy it is rwanda or whatever policy it is mor— rwanda or whatever policy it is roar—oo— rwanda or whatever policy it is rrror—oo rho- that they deem as the approprroro— that they deem as the appropriate going that they deem as the ap do priate going that they deem as the ap do it,ate going that they deem as the ap do it, and going that they deem as the ap do it, and then going that they deem as the ap do it, and then we're going ng to do it, and then we're going to do it, and then we're going ro-urrrr— to do it, and then we're going ro-urru rho— to do it, and then we're going to with the consequences to deal with the consequences orroruoruo— to deal with the consequences afterwards instead all this afterwards instead of all this puooyroorrug— afterwards instead of all this pussyfooting sitting pussyfooting around, sitting moro— pussyfooting around, sitting there desperately get there desperately trying to get all there desperately trying to get arr—m...- there desperately trying to geti all—row, which all these ducks in a row, which moo-ro— all these ducks in a row, which ruoy-ro—uo- they're never going to do, moo-ro— they're never going to do, they're never— they're never going to do, they're never going to do, they're never going to do, they're never going to be able to they're never going to be able ro-ou— they're never going to be able ro-ou uro— they're never going to be able to-all the ducks- they're never going to be able to all the ducks in a row to get all the ducks in a row onu— to get all the ducks in a row our more— to get all the ducks in a row and make this— to get all the ducks in a row and make this perfect situation onu— and make this perfect situation our—oo- and make this perfect situation our—do whorl and make this perfect situation our—do uror rri and then be able to do what it is. and then be able to do what it ro-you— and then be able to do what it ro-you know,— and then be able to do what it is. you know, what? this is. just, you know, what? this is. just, you know, what? this ro-oouoy. — is. just, you know, what? this ro-oouoy. rue-ro- is. just, you know, what? this is policy. we're going to do is our policy. we're going to do it. is our policy. we're going to do it uro— is our policy. we're going to do it we wru— is our policy. we're going to do it. we will deal— is our policy. we're going to do it. we will deal with the consequences- consequences afterwards, uuorovor— consequences afterwards,- whatever—that's consequences afterwards,- whatever_that's if whatever they may be. that's if i whatever they may be. that's if r-rrrmo— whatever they may be. that's if i-prime minister,- whatever they may be. that's if i prime minister, what i i was the prime minister, what i wouru— i was the prime minister, what i would do— i was the prime minister, what i would do rr— i was the prime minister, what i would do if we— i was the prime minister, what i would do if we have people like you ru— would do if we have people like you rrr oourror— would do if we have people like you in control and— would do if we have people like you in control and we might have some common sense. u nfo rtunately, - unfortunately, we've got this shower that's why it's not shower and that's why it's not happening. michel, i'll tell you.— happening. michel, i'll tell you-you— happening. michel, i'll tell you-you wrou- happening. michel, i'll tell you.-you what, i'vel you. i'll tell you what, i've got— you. i'll tell you what, i've gor ro— you. i'll tell you what, i've gor o oo— you. i'll tell you what, i've got to be honest. i think it's ourro— got to be honest. i think it's quite fortunate— got to be honest. i think it's quite fortunate for you, ooruouy,— quite fortunate for you, actually,-i'm- quite fortunate for you, actually, i'm in actually, that i'm not in oorrrror. — actually, that i'm not in control.ithink- actually, that i'm not in control. think last about control. i think i'd last about flyo— control. i think i'd last about five minutes,— control. i think i'd last about five minutes, to— control. i think i'd last about five minutes, to be honest. anyway,— five minutes, to be honest. anyway-rime- anyway, look, the time flies wrou— anyway, look, the time flies when you — anyway, look, the time flies when you're _fun,- anyway, look, the time flies when you're fun, doesn't when you're having fun, doesn't it? when you're having fun, doesn't no do— when you're having fun, doesn't no no nor— when you're having fun, doesn't no no nor go— when you're having fun, doesn't it? do not go anywhere, though. rigor—our- it? do not go anywhere, though. niger—our forl nigel farage is up next. but for rou-ruouk— nigel farage is up next. but for rroru-rrrouk you- nigel farage is up next. but for now, thank you very much. now, aaron, thank you very much. roo— now, aaron, thank you very much. uoro-our-oy— now, aaron, thank you very much. uoro-our-oy your- lots of people enjoy your contributions. _ contributions. my pleasure. soyrug— contributions. my pleasure.| suyrrg—urrrr contributions. my pleasure.- saying—urruyou. saying that they agree with you. i saying that they agree with you. r-ruoy-ro — saying that they agree with you. r-ruoy-ro grung— saying that they agree with you. i they're giving their saying that they agree with you. i a they're giving their saying that they agree with you. i a shakes giving their saying that they agree with you. i a shake and ng their saying that they agree with you. i a shake and havingr saying that they agree with you. i a shake and having a lie

head a shake and having a lie down,— head a shake and having a lie down, wondering— head a shake and having a lie down, wondering what's going on. and rm— down, wondering what's going on. and m on— down, wondering what's going on. and r-n or— down, wondering what's going on. and i'm one of them. i do. are your— and i'm one of them. i do. are your roan.— and i'm one of them. i do. are your roan. on— and i'm one of them. i do. are you? yeah. oh, look at this unre— you? yeah. oh, look at thisi little _we'll you? yeah. oh, look at this- little _we'll cut little bromance. well, we'll cut more— little bromance. well, we'll cut rnoro-rnon— little bromance. well, we'll cut rnoro-rnon go- little bromance. well, we'll cut there-them go to- little bromance. well, we'll cut there them go to be there and let them go to be spoon— there and let them go to be special friends— there and let them go to be special friends in their own rrno. —soo- special friends in their own rrno. —soo you| time. thank you. see you. tomorrow. _it's tomorrow. hello again. it's aidan mcgivern the gb aidan mcgivern here with the gb news to you news forecast. brought to you by the met office. cloudy and damp in the far north. but drier elsewhere. there'll some elsewhere. and there'll be some areas broken cloud, also elsewhere. and there'll be some areas clearlken cloud, also elsewhere. and there'll be some areas clear spells oud, also elsewhere. and there'll be some areas clear spells over also elsewhere. and there'll be some areas clear spells over the also elsewhere. and there'll be some areas clear spells over the next some clear spells over the next 24 hours. high pressure firmly in charge, however, that high pressure extending pressure is extending from the southwest. covering of southwest. it's covering much of england and wales, while scotland ireland scotland and northern ireland sees features, some sees some weak features, some weather cloud weather fronts introduce cloud and of and occasional outbreaks of mostly light rain. rain mostly light rain. the rain focussed across northern scotland through the night, especially the northwest highland where we've particularly dampened. there'll be moderate outbreaks, be some moderate outbreaks, showery elsewhere across showery rain elsewhere across scotland, northern ireland, england and wales will be dry with spells, temperatures with clear spells, temperatures and spots dipping and some sheltered spots dipping into the single figures coolest across eastern and southeastern england as we begin thursday , england as we begin thursday, sunshine here, i or 2 showers possible towards the east coast of england. otherwise lots of fine weather across england, wales into southern scotland.

but for the rest of scotland and northern ireland, thicker cloud and outbreaks of more persistent rain arriving into the west by the of the afternoon, the end of the afternoon, feeling cool where this occurs. but across the southern half of england and actually england and wales actually plenty spells and highs plenty of sunny spells and highs of 19 to 21 celsius. then into thursday night, we keep the clear spells in the far south, but a lot of cloud elsewhere and the weak weather front across western scotland , northern western scotland, northern ireland drifts into the rest of scotland before reaching northern and north wales northern england and north wales by the end of the night. as a weakening feature. 2 weakening feature. 1 or 2 showers breaking elsewhere showers breaking out elsewhere across wales ahead across england and wales ahead of but otherwise lot of of that. but otherwise a lot of fine weather we begin friday, fine weather as we begin friday, a milder start england a milder start for england and wales. start for wales. but a cooler start for scotland ireland. wales. but a cooler start for scotscotland ireland. wales. but a cooler start for scotscotland and ireland. wales. but a cooler start for scotscotland and northernind. but scotland and northern ireland more sunshine ireland sees more sunshine on friday with thursday. friday compared with thursday. plenty weather here plenty of fine weather here before thicker cloud arrives into the far northwest later across england and wales, the front as it moves south becomes a showery feature there'll a showery feature and there'll be downpours in be some heavy downpours in places friday afternoon. places on friday afternoon. hit and thunder storms perhaps

and miss thunder storms perhaps as well before more settled weather returns on .

saturday good evening. tonight on the nongo— good evening. tonight on the range snou— good evening. tonight on the range onou .— good evening. tonight on the farage show , we— l: " g tonight on the farage show , we show you farage show, we show you oouorro— farage show, we show you exclusive footage of people who nove— exclusive footage of people who novo crossed— exclusive footage of people who have crossed the— exclusive footage of people who have crossed the english channel uno— have crossed the english channel nno uro— have crossed the english channel nno living— have crossed the english channel who are living in— have crossed the english channel who are living in a— have crossed the english channel who are living in a four star nonu— who are living in a four star norou nur— who are living in a four star hotel, but they— who are living in a four star hotel, but they go off to work every— hotel, but they go off to work every day— hotel, but they go off to work every day onu— hotel, but they go off to work every day and earn cash for nong— every day and earn cash for being in— every day and earn cash for being in o— every day and earn cash for being in a car— every day and earn cash for being in a car wash. ll being in a car wash. i'll ask me— being in a car wash. i'll ask the question, just how widespread is this around the country? i'll also tell why country? i'll also tell you why harry meghan have proved harry and meghan have proved with their story today about being a fatal being involved in a near fatal collision on manhattan island. i'd exposed why they are i'd exposed to you why they are both complete and utter frauds and would ask the question, what is boris johnson's net zero policy about to do to the british car industry? but before all of that, let's get the news

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