for wales. good wales. - i good evening wales. — . good evening team. wales. — i good evening team. it wales. good evening team. it is 7:00 and am laurence— good evening team. it is 7:00 and am laurence fox— good evening team. it is 7:00 and am laurence fox .- good evening team. it is 7:00 and am laurence fox . coming up and i am laurence fox. coming up on-show— and i am laurence fox. coming up on-show this— and i am laurence fox. coming up on show this evening . are on the show this evening. are you— on the show this evening. are you-bit— on the show this evening. are youlbn chunky— on the show this evening. are youlbit chunky ?_ on the show this evening. are you bit chunky .7 are you you a bit chunky? are you carrying— you a bit chunky? are you carrying-food— you a bit chunky? are you carrying food baby ? have you carrying a food baby? have you developed— carrying a food baby? have you developed moobs_ carrying a food baby? have you developed moobs which aren't a result— developed moobs which aren't a result of— developed moobs which aren't a result of puberty— developed moobs which aren't a result of puberty blockers? well doctors— result of puberty blockers? well doctors aren't— result of puberty blockers? well doctors aren't allowed to tell you— doctors aren't allowed to tell you any— doctors aren't allowed to tell you any mou— doctors aren't allowed to tell you any more. they have a new way— you any more. they have a new way of— you any more. they have a new way of informing— you any more. they have a new way of informing you that you ate—ure- ate all the pies. you are afflicted— ate all the pies. you are afflicted and— ate all the pies. you are afflicted and suffering with chronic— afflicted and suffering with chronic appetite , dysregulation chronic appetite, dysregulation . later— chronic appetite, dysregulation . later on— chronic appetite, dysregulation . later on in— chronic appetite, dysregulation . later on in the— chronic appetite, dysregulation . later on in the show, we'll be talking— . later on in the show, we'll be talking u— . later on in the show, we'll be talking a lot— . later on in the show, we'll be talking a lot of— . later on in the show, we'll be talking a lot of old— . later on in the show, we'll be talking a lot of old defaecation dropping— talking a lot of old defaecation dropping mo— talking a lot of old defaecation dropping the kids off at the pool,— dropping the kids off at the poou toying— dropping the kids off at the

pool, laying some cable. why? uoooouo— pool, laying some cable. why? uoooouo of— pool, laying some cable. why? because of all— pool, laying some cable. why? because of all the— pool, laying some cable. why? because of all the sewage being pumped— because of all the sewage being pumped upto— because of all the sewage being pumped into ou— because of all the sewage being pumped into our waterways . the pumped into our waterways. the upper— pumped into our waterways. the water companies— pumped into our waterways. the water companies will want you to pay to— water companies will want you to pay to clean— water companies will want you to pay to clean up— water companies will want you to pay to clean up their up and finally— pay to clean up their up and finally, meritocracy. what's wrong— finally, meritocracy. what's wrong nun— finally, meritocracy. what's wrong with it— finally, meritocracy. what's wrong with it ?_ finally, meritocracy. what's wrong with it ? why can't we wrong with it? why can't we roord— wrong with it? why can't we rord poopro— wrong with it? why can't we reward people based on their onus—uny- reward people based on their. skills—why should skills and abilities? why should you—and- skills and abilities? why should you—and puonl you be segregated and push forward— you be segregated and push forward possibly into a job or orruodon— forward possibly into a job or situation where— forward possibly into a job or situation where you're not oonrrdonr— situation where you're not confident because of situation where you're not- confident-because of the confident in just because of the oodou— confident in just because of the oodourlyour— confident in just because of the colour-your skin— confident in just because of the colour-your skin ?- confident in just because of the colour your skin ? everyone colour of your skin? everyone onoudd— colour of your skin? everyone onoudd novo— colour of your skin? everyone should have same should have the same opportunity-- should have the same opportunity. they? opportunity. shouldn't they? doornor— opportunity. shouldn't they? heather macdonald here to heather macdonald is here to ddoouoo— heather macdonald is here to ddoouoo nor— heather macdonald is here to discuss her new— heather macdonald is here to discuss her new book, race discuss her new book, when race rrunpo— discuss her new book, when race rrunpo rdordr. — discuss her new book, when race trumps merit. and— discuss her new book, when race trumps merit. and finally , and trumps merit. and finally, and mood— trumps merit. and finally, and most importantly, i want to hear from— most importantly, i want to hear from you— most importantly, i want to hear from you oo— most importantly, i want to hear from you, so send— most importantly, i want to hear from you, so send your views my way— from you, so send your views my way or— from you, so send your views my way or on— from you, so send your views my way or on vdono— from you, so send your views my way at gb views ulez at gbnews.uk._ way at gb views ulez at gbnews.uk. that is all coming up dron— gbnews.uk. that is all coming up after-headlines— gbnews.uk. that is all coming up after headlines with rory after the headlines with rory sndrn— after the headlines with rory sndrn .— after the headlines with rory smith . thank— after the headlines with rory smith . thank you very much, smith. thank you very much, lawrence. the— smith. thank you very much, lawrence. £5 lawrence. the latest from the gb newsroom . i'm a man who conned newsroom. i'm a man who conned victims out of more than £100 million has been jailed . tj million has been jailed. tj fletcher is the founder of the website. i spoke through it. criminals could make phone calls

pretending they were from trusted companies to scam people. it was brought down last yearin people. it was brought down last year in the uk's biggest fraud sting. the 35 year old has been sentenced to 13 years and four months in prison . detective months in prison. detective superintendent helen ran says he clearly didn't care about the harm he was causing long before it was shut down. i was constantly growing - c : i was constantly growing with 700 it was shut down. i was- constantly growing with 700 new users registering— constantly growing with 700 new users registering every week and it users registering every week and dr woo— users registering every week and dr oorndnd— users registering every week and dr oorndnd .— users registering every week and it was earning . £80,000 per week it was earning. £80,000 per week . rdoronor— it was earning. £80,000 per week . rdoronor woo— it was earning. £80,000 per week . fletcher was leading an extravagant— . fletcher was leading an extravagant lifestyle, benefiting - extravagant lifestyle, benefiting from the profits, nownd— benefiting from the profits, nownd no— benefiting from the profits, having no care— benefiting from the profits, having no care for the misery he was responsible— having no care for the misery he was responsible for— having no care for the misery he was responsible for the parents of o— was responsible for the parents of a disabled— was responsible for the parents of a disabled teenagerjailed of a disabled teenager jailed for drooo— of a disabled teenager jailed for gross negligence . for gross negligence. manslaughter- for gross negligence. manslaughter have had their sentences increased. kayla titford, who was morbidly obese and bedridden, died at her home in newton in 2020 after suffering from an infection . her suffering from an infection. her mother, sarah lloyd jones , who

mother, sarah lloyd jones, who admitted the charge, will now serve eight years instead of six. and her father, alan titford, who pleaded not guilty, will serve ten years. the brother of tv star phillip schofield has been jailed for 12 years for child sex offences. timothy schofield, who was a civilian police worker, committed 11 offences between 2016 and 2019. detective inspector keith smith said the boy who was abused by the 54 year old showed remarkable bravery in coming forward . bravery in coming forward. around 600 people have been evacuated from villages in western spain , which are being western spain, which are being threatened by wildfire . the threatened by wildfire. the blaze has already destroyed . blaze has already destroyed. some 20,000 acres of land that's near the border with portugal. while officials believe it may have been started by arsonists , have been started by arsonists, the us has announced new sanctions on russia for

targeting future energy revenues and military supply chains. its part of a wave of fresh punishments over the war in ukraine, which have been announced by g7 leaders at a meeting in japan. will earlier, the uk said it would be banning imports of russian diamonds , imports of russian diamonds, copper, aluminium and nickel. meanwhile, ukraine's president has met the saudi crown prince mohammed bin salman on the sidelines of the arab league summit in jeddah. vladimir zelenskyy has also held meetings with the leaders of oman, kuwait and the uae . gulf countries have and the uae. gulf countries have tried to remain neutral on the war in ukraine. but in a speech to the summit, president zelenskyy called out those who have been turning a blind eye. bofis have been turning a blind eye. boris johnson's wife, carrie , is boris johnson's wife, carrie, is pregnant with the couple's third child. she announced on instagram they are expecting a sibling for wilf and romi in just a few weeks time. carrie said she's been feeling pretty

exhausted for much of the last eight months, but they are looking forward to welcoming the newest member of the family very soon. tv online dab+ radio and on tunein. this is gb news nato. back to lawrence . back to lawrence. supply and back to lawrence. - i supply and demand back to lawrence. - . supply and demand is back to lawrence. - i supply and demand is a back to lawrence. _ - supply and demand is a fairly supply and demand is a fairly simple - supply and demand is a fairly odnpdo-ro— - supply and demand is a fairly odnpdo-ro nuon- - supply and demand is a fairly simple-to much supply.- simple concept to much supply. donond— simple concept to much supply. demand falls— simple concept to much supply. demand falls too— simple concept to much supply. demand falls too much demand pnooo— demand falls too much demand prdooo noo— demand falls too much demand prices rise. you— demand falls too much demand prices rise. you don't need to be prices rise. you don't need to do rrddron— prices rise. you don't need to be milton friedman to get it. do— be milton friedman to get it. do o— be milton friedman to get it. do o oonoopr— be milton friedman to get it. it's a concept particularly rodowonr— it's a concept particularly relevant to _ it's a concept particularly relevant to our- it's a concept particularly relevant to our current economy. rdond — relevant to our current economy. rdond rdoodod— relevant to our current economy. rishi flooded it— relevant to our current economy. rishi flooded it with a billion dudd-o— rishi flooded it with a billion dudd-o woun— rishi flooded it with a billion quid's worth of— rishi flooded it with a billion quid's worth of supply each day as quid's worth of supply each day oo ndo— quid's worth of supply each day oo ndo moro— quid's worth of supply each day as his mate boris— quid's worth of supply each day as his mate boris was locking down— as his mate boris was locking down no— as his mate boris was locking down the middle— as his mate boris was locking down the middle so that down the middle class so that the down the middle class so that rno-odooo— down the middle class so that the - class could - down the middle class so that the class could deliver the working class could deliver aoon— the working class could deliver amazon—groceries. the working class could deliveri amazon—groceries to amazon parcels and groceries to the amazon parcels and groceries to rno—ro— amazon parcels and groceries to rno—ro dwon- amazon parcels and groceries to rno—ro dwon up- amazon parcels and groceries to the _to liven up the the middle class to liven up the donor,— the middle class to liven up the long, - lockdown _ the middle class to liven up the long, lockdown days long, lazy lockdown days of zoom ooddo— long, lazy lockdown days of zoom ooddo ond— long, lazy lockdown days of zoom ooddo ond fizzy— long, lazy lockdown days of zoom calls and fizzy pop. _ long, lazy lockdown days of zoom calls and fizzy pop. the £400 pddddon— calls and fizzy pop. the £400

billion which— calls and fizzy pop. the £400 billion which he— calls and fizzy pop. the £400 billion which he conjured from the billion which he conjured from no noddo— billion which he conjured from the magic money— billion which he conjured from the magic money tree to fund his dono— the magic money tree to fund his dono or— the magic money tree to fund his game of chinese— the magic money tree to fund his game of chinese copycat, nowowon do— game of chinese copycat, however, is swirling however, is still swirling oound— however, is still swirling around our financial system. do— around our financial system. dddo o— around our financial system. dddo o onunr— around our financial system. like a shunt at— around our financial system. like a shunt at the bottom of a oopdo— like a shunt at the bottom of a oopdo oond,— like a shunt at the bottom of a septic tank, leaving an oworouppdy— septic tank, leaving an oversupply of money. the double oruodry— oversupply of money. the double oruodry or— oversupply of money. the double oruodry or do — oversupply of money. the double cruelty of the catastrophic pondondo— cruelty of the catastrophic pandemic response continues rodoy— pandemic response continues rodoy py— pandemic response continues rodoy by do— pandemic response continues today by the most malevolent rnorr— today by the most malevolent rnorr or— today by the most malevolent rnorr or odd— today by the most malevolent theft of all inflation. an dnrdodon— theft of all inflation. an inflation which bloodthirsty pro dooddowno— inflation which bloodthirsty pro lockdowns would _ inflation which bloodthirsty pro lockdowns would have you believe is lockdowns would have you believe do do— lockdowns would have you believe do do rooudr— lockdowns would have you believe is the result of— lockdowns would have you believe is the result of the— lockdowns would have you believe is the result of the objective dooo— is the result of the objective less conflict _ is the result of the objective less conflict in— is the result of the objective less conflict in ukraine, whilst dooo— less conflict in ukraine, whilst less bloodthirsty— less conflict in ukraine, whilst less bloodthirsty others with a dood— less bloodthirsty others with a dood or— less bloodthirsty others with a dood or do— less bloodthirsty others with a back of the packet grasp of supply— back of the packet grasp of ouppdy ond— back of the packet grasp of supply and demand understands to be supply and demand understands to do uo— supply and demand understands to do uo roopdnd— supply and demand understands to do uo roopdnd rno— supply and demand understands to be us reaping the consequences of o— be us reaping the consequences of o oo— be us reaping the consequences of o ooor or— be us reaping the consequences of a cost of lockdown crisis . of a cost of lockdown crisis. rnroroordnddy— of a cost of lockdown crisis. interestingly, and increasingly the interestingly, and increasingly rno ouppdy— interestingly, and increasingly rno ouppdy ond— interestingly, and increasingly the supply and demand truism is dodnd— the supply and demand truism is dodnd oppddod— the supply and demand truism is being applied culturally as well as being applied culturally as well oo woororn— being applied culturally as well as western societies are nodoorod— as western societies are molested from within by the woke odudry— molested from within by the woke ooudy oudd— molested from within by the woke ooudy oudr. nodd— molested from within by the woke equity cult. hell bent on onoppdnd— equity cult. hell bent on chopping off_ equity cult. hell bent on chopping off healthy children's drooor— chopping off healthy children's breast tissue— chopping off healthy children's breast tissue and— chopping off healthy children's breast tissue and penises in rundoy— breast tissue and penises in rurdoy dn— breast tissue and penises in turkey in front— breast tissue and penises in turkey in front of our kids in a nypnodo— turkey in front of our kids in a nypnordo ond— turkey in front of our kids in a hypnotic and demonic attempt to nyporooxuoddzo— hypnotic and demonic attempt to hypersexualize them from birth , hypersexualize them from birth, ondy— hypersexualize them from birth, ondy round— hypersexualize them from birth, ondy roddnd o— hypersexualize them from birth, only taking a breather to ponodo— only taking a breather to ponodo dn— only taking a breather to partake in their other favourite noddy— partake in their other favourite noddy or— partake in their other favourite hobby of calling— partake in their other favourite hobby of calling every white oddnnod— hobby of calling every white skinned-racist- hobby of calling every white skinned racist and

skinned person a racist and ddwddnd— skinned person a racist and dividing-along- skinned person a racist and dividing along immutable dividing us along immutable ddnoo— dividing us along immutable lines-create— dividing us along immutable lines create oppressors and lines to create oppressors and wordno— lines to create oppressors and wordno .— lines to create oppressors and wordno . oo— lines to create oppressors and victims . so crucial. if you wish victims. so crucial. if you wish to victims. so crucial. if you wish ro doorroy— victims. so crucial. if you wish ro doorroy odo— victims. so crucial. if you wish to destroy the confidence of a odwddoodon— to destroy the confidence of a civilisation before _ to destroy the confidence of a civilisation before instigating a revolution— civilisation before instigating a revolution ._ civilisation before instigating a revolution . even here, though, a revolution. even here, though, the a revolution. even here, though, no odd— a revolution. even here, though, no odd ouppdy— a revolution. even here, though, the old supply and demand proddon— the old supply and demand problem kicks— the old supply and demand problem kicks in was such a high pnoo— problem kicks in was such a high prdoo pdoood— problem kicks in was such a high prdoo pdoood ror— problem kicks in was such a high price placed for victimhood in the leisured,_ price placed for victimhood in the leisured, affluent and self—immolating west, suppliers run self—immolating west, suppliers rornor— self—immolating west, suppliers run rather thin.— self—immolating west, suppliers run rather thin. we— self—immolating west, suppliers run rather thin. we see this in anonoo— run rather thin. we see this in america with— run rather thin. we see this in america with the— run rather thin. we see this in america with the intellectually onoddondod — america with the intellectually challenged face— america with the intellectually challenged face puller. jussie onoddord— challenged face puller. jussie smollett, who— challenged face puller. jussie smollett, who claimed to have doon— smollett, who claimed to have been attacked— smollett, who claimed to have been attacked by— smollett, who claimed to have been attacked by maga cap toting dopudddoono— been attacked by maga cap toting dopudddoono dn— been attacked by maga cap toting republicans in a— been attacked by maga cap toting republicans in a minus 20 degree onowoorrnr or— republicans in a minus 20 degree snowstorm at 2— republicans in a minus 20 degree snowstorm at 2 a.m._ republicans in a minus 20 degree snowstorm at 2 am. in the norndnd— snowstorm at 2 am. in the norndnd dn— snowstorm at 2 am. in the morning in the— snowstorm at 2 am. in the morning in the overwhelmingly donooror— morning in the overwhelmingly donooror ody— morning in the overwhelmingly democrat city of— morning in the overwhelmingly democrat city of detroit , whilst democrat city of detroit, whilst nodddnd— democrat city of detroit, whilst nodddnd o— democrat city of detroit, whilst holding a subway— democrat city of detroit, whilst holding a subway sandwich, which he miraculously— holding a subway sandwich, which he miraculously managed not to drop— he miraculously managed not to drop dunno— he miraculously managed not to drop during ono— he miraculously managed not to drop during the heinously fake ooooudr— drop during the heinously fake assault—endure. drop during the heinously fake assault—endure . assault that he didn't endure. we assault that he didn't endure. duo-or— assault that he didn't endure. duo-or dudo— assault that he didn't endure. we at duke lacrosse. we we saw it at duke lacrosse. we dr— we saw it at duke lacrosse. we dr-nond— we saw it at duke lacrosse. we saw it-hand pulls.- saw it with hand pulls. miraculously- saw it with hand pulls. miraculously transmogrified into dynondnd— miraculously transmogrified into lynching nooses_ miraculously transmogrified into lynching nooses in nascar. and wnon— lynching nooses in nascar. and wnon corv— lynching nooses in nascar. and when cctv finally— lynching nooses in nascar. and when cctv finally emerges from oorowdod— when cctv finally emerges from scrawled swastikas _ when cctv finally emerges from scrawled swastikas or n—word on ooddodo— scrawled swastikas or n—word on ooddodo dorn— scrawled swastikas or n—word on college dorm doors— scrawled swastikas or n—word on college dorm doors , it's college dorm doors, it's dnowroddy— college dorm doors, it's inevitably someone from the opprooood— inevitably someone from the oppressed victim group who is the perpetrator— oppressed victim group who is the perpetrator of said race, nooo— the perpetrator of said race,

nooo ouppdy— the perpetrator of said race, hoax supply and demand . and it hoax supply and demand. and it is hoax supply and demand. and it do duo— hoax supply and demand. and it do rruo wnon— hoax supply and demand. and it is true when they— hoax supply and demand. and it is true when they say that anonoo— is true when they say that america sneezes, britain catches a america sneezes, britain catches ooodd— america sneezes, britain catches ooodd. wo— america sneezes, britain catches ooodd. duo nowo— america sneezes, britain catches a cold. we have seen this onowdodd— a cold. we have seen this snowball search to be the uddnoro— snowball search to be the ultimate victim bubble up here to ultimate victim bubble up here do rrdnoo— ultimate victim bubble up here do rrdnoo uorry— ultimate victim bubble up here to prince harry imported his own multi—millionaire_ to prince harry imported his own multi—millionaire cry bully dororo— multi—millionaire cry bully before swiftly— multi—millionaire cry bully before swiftly spinning around and before swiftly spinning around ond owonndnd— before swiftly spinning around and swanning back off to his $10 rdddddon— and swanning back off to his $10 rddddon doo— and swanning back off to his $10 million los angeles hovel for some much needed privacy roddowdnd— some much needed privacy roddowdnd o— some much needed privacy following a terrifying , following a terrifying, non—existent hoax car chase rnroudn— non—existent hoax car chase rnroudn o— non—existent hoax car chase through a gridlocked manhattan . through a gridlocked manhattan. but through a gridlocked manhattan. duo dn— through a gridlocked manhattan. duo dn ono— through a gridlocked manhattan. but in the last— through a gridlocked manhattan. but in the last couple of days , but in the last couple of days, it's but in the last couple of days, do on— but in the last couple of days, it's an altogether— but in the last couple of days, it's an altogether more odious nunon— it's an altogether more odious nunon ror— it's an altogether more odious human for whom _ it's an altogether more odious human for whom the empathy and opoon— human for whom the empathy and opoon wo— human for whom the empathy and compassion we are— human for whom the empathy and compassion we are commanded to find— compassion we are commanded to find for— compassion we are commanded to find for ornoro— compassion we are commanded to find for others remain as trenchantly_ find for others remain as trenchantly elusive , forced to trenchantly elusive, forced to rooddn— trenchantly elusive, forced to rooddn oo— trenchantly elusive, forced to rooddn o— trenchantly elusive, forced to resign over a relationship with oonodody— resign over a relationship with somebody falling in love. ennis somebody falling in love. well, the somebody falling in love. well, do dow— somebody falling in love. well, do duo of— somebody falling in love. well, the lviv of breaking your own rules. you know you're the one. actually. just stop, stop, stop, stop, stop, stop, stop, stop, stop, stop, stop, stop, stop, stop, stop. i am a louis. stop. i'm a human being, right? yeah okay. secretary of state . don't okay. secretary of state. don't interrupt me now, because i'm going to say something that i'd like you to listen to. i'm a

human being .john's question is human being. john's question is leading up to essentially, how do you cope with this amount of stuff as a human being ? and part stuff as a human being? and part of the answer is that, of course, politicians , as you course, politicians, as you know, have to take the rough with the smooth and i have learned a huge amount about resilience and but i also now i'm just not interested in having people just go over old coals again and again and again . matt says that he's not interested— . matt says that he's not interested in— matt says that he's not interested in raking over old ooodo— interested in raking over old ooodo ododn— interested in raking over old ooodo ododn .— interested in raking over old coals again , the— interested in raking over old coals again , the city, old coals coals again, the city, old coals , dddo— coals again, the city, old coals , dddo nor— coals again, the city, old coals , like not taking— coals again, the city, old coals , like not taking any personal responsibility— , like not taking any personal responsibility for— , like not taking any personal responsibility for anything whatsoever— responsibility for anything whatsoever and being left alone to whatsoever and being left alone do rodo— whatsoever and being left alone do rodo odd— whatsoever and being left alone to take all the— whatsoever and being left alone to take all the perks of fame dron— to take all the perks of fame from no— to take all the perks of fame from his pathetic— to take all the perks of fame from his pathetic efforts in pudddo— from his pathetic efforts in public office— from his pathetic efforts in public office ,_ from his pathetic efforts in public office , out the doors of public office, out the doors of rorddononr— public office, out the doors of parliament-into- public office, out the doors of parliament into the world of parliament and into the world of rooddy— parliament and into the world of rooddyl— parliament and into the world of rooddyl. d— parliament and into the world of reality.. i don't— parliament and into the world of reality . i don't particularly reality tv. i don't particularly wond— reality tv. i don't particularly wonr ro— reality tv. i don't particularly wonr do no— reality tv. i don't particularly want to rake over— reality tv. i don't particularly want to rake over appalling want to rake over his appalling rooord— want to rake over his appalling rooorod-onr— want to rake over his appalling rooorod-onr .- want to rake over his appalling record-can't . it- want to rake over his appalling record can't . it makes record either. i can't. it makes roo— record either. i can't. it makes roo ondy.— record either. i can't. it makes one too angry. but— record either. i can't. it makes one too angry. but what is

dnroroodnd— one too angry. but what is interesting-how- one too angry. but what is interesting how he's trying interesting is how he's trying to interesting is how he's trying ro-d— interesting is how he's trying our or— interesting is how he's trying our or-no-o- interesting is how he's trying to it or he's being to spin it or how he's being onoourodod— to spin it or how he's being. encouraged-perhaps encouraged to spin it. perhaps his-responsibility- encouraged to spin it. perhaps his responsibility is his personal responsibility is a cornerstone of— his personal responsibility is a cornerstone of conservatism. one ooudd— cornerstone of conservatism. one ooudd roooonoddy— cornerstone of conservatism. one could reasonably assert, but not for-drond— could reasonably assert, but not for-drond or— could reasonably assert, but not for brand of modern, for matt's brand of modern, prodrooowo— for matt's brand of modern, progressive conservative ism. rnoro— progressive conservative ism. rnoro nddnr— progressive conservative ism. there might just— progressive conservative ism. there might just be some that there might just be some of that oduowo— there might just be some of that elusive-empathy— there might just be some of that elusive empathy said, elusive of empathy if he said, i don-r— elusive of empathy if he said, i don-r-oorry— elusive of empathy if he said, i don-r-oorry .— elusive of empathy if he said, i don-r-oorry, d— elusive of empathy if he said, i don't sorry , i destroyed don't know, sorry, i destroyed your— don't know, sorry, i destroyed your-education.- don't know, sorry, i destroyedi your-educationllet your children's education. i let poopdo— your children's education. i let people—hospitalsl people die alone in hospitals on drodo.— people die alone in hospitals on drodo. d— people die alone in hospitals on ipads. i destroyed— people die alone in hospitals on ipads. i destroyed businesses in the ipads. i destroyed businesses in rno—poopdol the economy. i called people oonopdrooy— the economy. i called people conspiracy theorists, racists ond— conspiracy theorists, racists and anti—vaxxers for even duoordondnd— and anti—vaxxers for even . duoordondnd—now questioning whether this now unoduwoooddy— questioning whether this now unequivocally public unequivocally provable public poddoy— unequivocally provable public poddoy dunooy— unequivocally provable public policy lunacy was the wisest rouro— policy lunacy was the wisest rouro ro — policy lunacy was the wisest route to take.— policy lunacy was the wisest route to take. he— policy lunacy was the wisest route to take. he could say, i don-r— route to take. he could say, i don-r dnow. — route to take. he could say, i don-r dnow. d— route to take. he could say, i don't know. i was— route to take. he could say, i don't know. i was wrong . i'm don't know. i was wrong. i'm oorry— don't know. i was wrong. i'm oorry. d— don't know. i was wrong. i'm oorry. d dd— don't know. i was wrong. i'm sorry. i did what— don't know. i was wrong. i'm sorry. i did what i- don't know. i was wrong. i'm sorry. i did what i thought was nond— sorry. i did what i thought was rddnr. d— sorry. i did what i thought was rddnr. drodo— sorry. i did what i thought was right. i take personal responsibility and i ask for your— responsibility and i ask for your forgiveness . but he won't. your forgiveness. but he won't. and— your forgiveness. but he won't. and don-r— your forgiveness. but he won't. and isn't doing— your forgiveness. but he won't. and isn't doing that. he's rooddnd— and isn't doing that. he's rooddnd wory— and isn't doing that. he's feeling very, very sorry for ndnoodd — feeling very, very sorry for himself. like— feeling very, very sorry for himself. like the limp wristed ooworddy— himself. like the limp wristed cowardly woke _ himself. like the limp wristed cowardly woke progressive. he nooo— cowardly woke progressive. he nooo oonodndy— cowardly woke progressive. he most certainly is. _ cowardly woke progressive. he most certainly is. more than odor.— most certainly is. more than rnor. uo-o— most certainly is. more than that. he's still— most certainly is. more than that. he's still going , lauding that. he's still going, lauding the that. he's still going, lauding rno ouooooo— that. he's still going, lauding the success vaccine that the success of the vaccine that don-r— the success of the vaccine that our o— the success of the vaccine that isn't a vaccine— the success of the vaccine that isn't a vaccine and— the success of the vaccine that isn't a vaccine and doesn't do wnor— isn't a vaccine and doesn't do wnor dro— isn't a vaccine and doesn't do what it's supposed to do very wodd— what it's supposed to do very wodd wnddor— what it's supposed to do very well whilst doing of well whilst doing lots of rndndo.— well whilst doing lots of things. do things. it's not supposed to do wory— things. it's not supposed to do wory-dndood.— things. it's not supposed to do very-indeed.-thel very well indeed. and so the oounrry— very well indeed. and so the country cannot— very well indeed. and so the country cannot heal . record country cannot heal. record nudoo— country cannot heal. record numbers-people- country cannot heal. record numbers people haven't numbers of people haven't

rorurnod— numbers of people haven't returned-2.5- numbers of people haven't returned 2.5 million returned to work. 2.5 million poopdo— returned to work. 2.5 million poopdo ndoodnd— returned to work. 2.5 million people missing in action from the people missing in action from ono-.— people missing in action from rno-. rnor- the workforce. that is a oroddonnd— the workforce. that is a staggering where the workforce. that is a- staggering-where are staggering number where are rnoyd— staggering number where are rnoyo dono— staggering number where are they? long covid cancers and door— they? long covid cancers and heart diseases.— they? long covid cancers and heart diseases. dare i mention the heart diseases. dare i mention rno rndnd— heart diseases. dare i mention rno ondnd uo— heart diseases. dare i mention the thing no accountability for the thing no accountability for do norno— the thing no accountability for do norno or— the thing no accountability for the harms of his— the thing no accountability for the harms of his policies or medication.— the harms of his policies or medication. it's— the harms of his policies or medication. it'sjust the harms of his policies or medication. it's just a glib doowo— medication. it's just a glib leave-alone.- medication. it's just a glib leave alone. stop being mean leave me alone. stop being mean to leave me alone. stop being mean ro—dur— leave me alone. stop being mean ro—dur no- leave me alone. stop being mean ro—dur no woy. i to matthew. sorry, but no way. spondy,— to matthew. sorry, but no way. spondy, wo— to matthew. sorry, but no way. spondy, wo dor— to matthew. sorry, but no way. spanky, we get the leaders we dooowo. — spanky, we get the leaders we dooowo. and— spanky, we get the leaders we deserve. and if— spanky, we get the leaders we deserve. and if we don't hold you— deserve. and if we don't hold you ro— deserve. and if we don't hold you to account,— deserve. and if we don't hold you to account, what then? we wddd—oorryl you to account, what then? we wddd—oorry on will carry on. you will carry on dodnd— will carry on. you will carry on dodnd ono— will carry on. you will carry on doing the damage— will carry on. you will carry on doing the damage that you do as will carry on. you will carry on doi get he damage that you do as will carry on. you will carry on doi get physically, that you do as will carry on. you will carry on doi get physically, culturally,io as we get physically, culturally, onodonoddy— we get physically, culturally, emotionally poorer. but you know— emotionally poorer. but you know or— emotionally poorer. but you know or ono— emotionally poorer. but you know, at the end of the day, i'm not know, at the end of the day, i'm nor rooddy— know, at the end of the day, i'm nor rooddy roo— know, at the end of the day, i'm not really too concerned about roord— not really too concerned about rdorr. uoorud— not really too concerned about matt. useful idiots like him are the matt. useful idiots like him are do droo— matt. useful idiots like him are do find ro— matt. useful idiots like him are the first to the— matt. useful idiots like him are the first to the gallows. once ono— the first to the gallows. oncej rno—uoo the revolution is no more use for—ddrrdo- the revolution is no more use for-little they- the revolution is no more use for little they know for them. the little they know odroody—d- for them. the little they know odroody—d onl already too much. but i am wornod— already too much. but i am worried -those- already too much. but i am worried those who worried about those who lurk dondnd— worried about those who lurk- behind—shadows. worried about those who lurk- behind-seek-shadows. worried about those who lurk- behind-seek to -shadows. worried about those who lurk behind seek to drive shadows. worried about those who lurk behind seek to drive usidows. those who seek to drive us demoralised_ those who seek to drive us demoralised and compliant back into demoralised and compliant back no ono— demoralised and compliant back into the stone— demoralised and compliant back into the stone age— demoralised and compliant back into the stone age with their ndndddodo— into the stone age with their nihilistic pursuit of all things so— nihilistic pursuit of all things zero. so there— nihilistic pursuit of all things zero. so there are some would ooy— zero. so there are some would ooy ond— zero. so there are some would ooy ond odroo— zero. so there are some would say and agree with matt that we onoudd— say and agree with matt that we onoudd nowo— say and agree with matt that we should move on— say and agree with matt that we should move on now and forgive ond— should move on now and forgive odd-dd— should move on now and forgive odd-dd dur— should move on now and forgive and-it, but supply- should move on now and forgive and it, but supply and and forget it, but supply and donond— and forget it, but supply and demand. matthew ulez forgiveness. _ demand. matthew ulez forgiveness. you supply . the forgiveness. you supply. the ono—

forgiveness. you supply. the more the public— forgiveness. you supply. the more the public will demand . so more the public will demand. so ronddnr— more the public will demand. so ronddnr d-n— more the public will demand. so tonight i'm asking— more the public will demand. so tonight i'm asking what reality onow— tonight i'm asking what reality onow onoudd— tonight i'm asking what reality show should matt hancock go on nowoo— show should matt hancock go on nooo-v onodd— show should matt hancock go on next? email me— show should matt hancock go on next? email me at— next? email me at gbviews@gbnews.uk or tweet next? email me at— gbviews@gbnews.uk or tweet me at dono— gbviews@gbnews.uk or tweet me at dozzo roo— gbviews@gbnews.uk or tweet me at dozzo row or— gbviews@gbnews.uk or tweet me at dozzo row or or— gbviews@gbnews.uk or tweet me at dozzo row or or .— gbviews@gbnews.uk or tweet me at lozza fox or at . gb— gbviews@gbnews.uk or tweet me at lozza fox or at . gb news. so lozza fox or at. gb news. so how do you— lozza fox or at. gb news. so how do you ooddo— lozza fox or at. gb news. so how do you oodwo o— lozza fox or at. gb news. so how do you solve a problem like opond— do you solve a problem like spank mangkok? joining me now is podddood— spank mangkok? joining me now is political commentator sophie oorooron ro— political commentator sophie corcoran to discuss if his ropurodon— corcoran to discuss if his reputation can- corcoran to discuss if his reputation can be saved, challenged— reputation can be saved, challenged and rehabilitated . challenged and rehabilitated. sopndo,— challenged and rehabilitated. sopndo, wnor— challenged and rehabilitated. sophie, what is— challenged and rehabilitated. sophie, what is next for spanky 7 sophie, what is next for spanky d on— sophie, what is next for spanky d on, god — sophie, what is next for spanky 7 oh, god. well— sophie, what is next for spanky 7 oh, god. well to— sophie, what is next for spanky ? oh, god. well to be honest, i nopo— ? oh, god. well to be honest, i nopo odor— ? oh, god. well to be honest, i nopo do no— ? oh, god. well to be honest, i hope that his routine can't be a rehabilitated— hope that his routine can't be a rehabilitated because i think odor— rehabilitated because i think no no— rehabilitated because i think no no do— rehabilitated because i think that he is like— rehabilitated because i think that he is like the meghan rdorddo— that he is like the meghan rdorddo or— that he is like the meghan markle of politics, like they rndnd— markle of politics, like they think they're _ markle of politics, like they think they're a _ markle of politics, like they think they're a hero . "iii; markle of politics, like they think they're a hero . "er think they're a hero. they think ddoy-ro— think they're a hero. they think they're the next version of the modern day jesus. but in actual fact, everybody hates them and they entitled to people's they feel entitled to people's respect, even though they don't deserve it. i feel like those two are very, very similar in terms reality show he terms of what reality show he should go next. i'm torn should go on next. i'm torn between two. really. i think he

should either on traitors should either go on the traitors because. well clue's in the name or rise and fall. the one that i was just on because i feel like he'd had a great time on that one, eating dog food and all sorts. what did you make his sorts. what did you make of his denim that podcast? denim shirt in that podcast? were you as enamoured of it as i woo— were you as enamoured of it as i d— were you as enamoured of it as i d noon— were you as enamoured of it as i d dro— were you as enamoured of it as i was? i mean, it's disgraceful. and— was? i mean, it's disgraceful. and d— was? i mean, it's disgraceful. and d dddnd— was? i mean, it's disgraceful. and i think one— was? i mean, it's disgraceful. and i think one of— was? i mean, it's disgraceful. and i think one of the- was? i mean, it's disgraceful. and i think one of the things that do revive that matt needs to do to revive his reputation is please stop wearing turtlenecks . one, two, wearing turtlenecks. one, two, please delete tiktok and three, stop trying to think you're a celebrity when you're not. you're a politician . you're not you're a politician. you're not a reality star. do you think his woood— a reality star. do you think his vocal inflexion_ a reality star. do you think his vocal inflexion is— ”rial can do you think his vocal inflexion is deliberately onnoydnd— vocal inflexion is deliberately onnoydnd or— vocal inflexion is deliberately annoying or it's— vocal inflexion is deliberately annoying or it's an accident of ddnn— annoying or it's an accident of ddrrn 7— annoying or it's an accident of ddrrn 7 rd— annoying or it's an accident of ddnn o r-n dodnd— annoying or it's an accident of birth ? i'm going to hope it's an birth? i'm going to hope it's an oooddonr— birth? i'm going to hope it's an oooddonr or— birth? i'm going to hope it's an accident of birth. _ birth? i'm going to hope it's an accident of birth. " accident of birth. i mean, i'm cockney. i don't think i have you know, the best accent in the world. be with world. but to be honest with matt, patronising and matt, he's so patronising and just everything does . stop, just everything he does. stop, stop, stop, stop, stop,- g stop, stop, stop, stop, stop, stop, orop— stop, stop, stop, stop, stop, orop-orop— stop, stop, stop, stop, stop, orop-orop .- stop, stop, stop, stop, stop,| orop-orop ,-spop, stop, stop, stop, stop, stop, orop—orop. i stop, stop, stop, stop, stop,- stop,_stop. please stop, stop, stop, stop. please drop. — stop, stop, stop, stop. please drop. rdoooo— stop, stop, stop, stop. please stop. please stop. he had to .

stop. please stop. he had to. patients okay, but look , patients okay, but look, ooonory— patients okay, but look, ooonory do— cl�*etfr okay, but look, everyone is entitled to onpdoynonr- everyone is entitled to employment at. you know, ooonory— employment at. you know, ooonory do— employment at. you know, everyone is entitled to a future . dunoo— everyone is entitled to a future . wnor tod — everyone is entitled to a future . what job could— everyone is entitled to a future . what job could we set matt to dod— . what job could we set matt to do? dro— . what job could we set matt to do? to ooo— . what job could we set matt to do? we see that— . what job could we set matt to do? we see that the sewage is dooddnd— do? we see that the sewage is dooddnd dnro— do? we see that the sewage is leaking into the— do? we see that the sewage is leaking into the waterways. droudd — leaking into the waterways. droudd morr— leaking into the waterways. would matt be— leaking into the waterways. would matt be a good person to odoon— would matt be a good person to odoon odor— would matt be a good person to odoon rnor up— would matt be a good person to odoon rnor up 7— would matt be a good person to clean that up ? oh— would matt be a good person to clean that up ? oh i feel like he clean that up? oh i feel like he woudd— clean that up? oh i feel like he woudd do— clean that up? oh i feel like he woudd do ono— clean that up? oh i feel like he would be one of— clean that up? oh i feel like he would be one of those people odor,— would be one of those people rnod udo— would be one of those people that, like, work— would be one of those people that, like, work in— would be one of those people that, like, work in a call ooddo— that, like, work in a call centre and— that, like, work in a call centre and like tell you that youo— centre and like tell you that you doon— centre and like tell you that you've been-a— centre and like tell you that you've been a car crash when you've been in a car crash when you— you've been in a car crash when you-dooouoo— you've been in a car crash when you-dooouoo no- you've been in a car crash when you because he clearly you haven't because he clearly nodoo— you haven't because he clearly nodoo ondndo— you haven't because he clearly makes things that aren't believable,— makes things that aren't believable, convincing . makes things that aren't- believable,-convincing. so believable, very convincing. so i believable, very convincing. so d rood— believable, very convincing. so d food udo— believable, very convincing. so i feel like he's— believable, very convincing. so i feel like he's got— believable, very convincing. so i feel like he's got a- believable, very convincing. so i feel like he's got a lot- believable, very convincing. so i feel like he's got a lot of- i feel like he's got a lot of hidden in genre, but hidden talent in that genre, but he very obviously wants a public profile. so, he very obviously wants a public profile . so, so, so what else profile. so, so, so what else you— profile. so, so, so what else you do— profile. so, so, so what else you do do— profile. so, so, so what else can you do is it,— profile. so, so, so what else can you do is it, is- profile. so, so, so what else can you do is it, is it- so, so, so what else can you do is it, is it call oonrro— can you do is it, is it call ooddo-d- can you do is it, is it call centre,-it ? - can you do is it, is it call| centre,-it ? yeah, can you do is it, is it call. centre,-it ? yeah, i centre, is that it? yeah, i rddnd— centre, is that it? yeah, i think look, to be honest, i want to say that he'll never be able to say that he'll never be able to go back into the world of tv and if we're in a world that should definitely be the case. but unfortunately lot but unfortunately there's a lot of politics fans who have made dreadful decisions , namely dreadful decisions, namely alastair are still alastair campbell, who are still in the media doing the rounds. you know who have still got a

career despite the dreadful things that they're doing and who know not good people who we know are not good people , not only by the political decisions that they've made, but also just their personality . i also just their personality. i mean, the way alastair mean, look at the way alastair behaved the behaved on newsnight the other night, just get away night, but they just get away with you know. do night, but they just get away with you know . do you think with it, you know. do you think rooddy— with it, you know. do you think doordy .— with it, you know. do you think doordy , do— with it, you know. do you think doordy , do you— with it, you know. do you think lastly , do you think— e do you think lastly , do you think that matt lastly, do you think that matt donoood— lastly, do you think that matt hancock should— lastly, do you think that matt hancock should join the liberal donoororo— hancock should join the liberal donoororo or— hancock should join the liberal democrats or .— hancock should join the liberal democrats or . not " democrats or. not i mean, i woudd— democrats or. not i mean, i would rather him just not be in politics at all. but i feel like the lib dems is definitely a place i think. what did place for him, i think. what did he say the other day is that in order for the conservatives to win, doing all win, we need to stop doing all of culture war stuff and go of the culture war stuff and go after youth vote . i mean, i after the youth vote. i mean, i think is why the think it is why the conservatives are doing badly conservatives are doing so badly is want try and is because we want to try and get the votes of people who, no matter do, never get the votes of people who, no matte to do, never get the votes of people who, no matte to vote do, never get the votes of people who, no matte to vote forio, never get the votes of people who, no matte to vote forio, ever. ever going to vote for us, ever. i think flawed strategy . think it's a flawed strategy. why go after the why are we going to go after the votes that matter why are we going to go after the voteswe that matter why are we going to go after the voteswe do that matter why are we going to go after the voteswe do as that matter why are we going to go after the voteswe do as a:hat matter why are we going to go after the voteswe do as a party, matter why are we going to go after the voteswe do as a party, are itter why are we going to go after the voteswe do as a party, are never what we do as a party, are never going to put cross that going to put the cross in that box? and yet we abandoned the people that have supported us since their lives, since day one of their lives, since, , you 15 since, like me, you were 15 years old. but there we go. stunning upset political acumen

dron— stunning upset political acumen don-donoood— stunning upset political acumen from - hancock , _ stunning upset political acumen from hancock , the political from matt hancock, the political donduo. — from matt hancock, the political donduo. anywoy— from matt hancock, the political genius. anyway, sophie, thank you— genius. anyway, sophie, thank you for— genius. anyway, sophie, thank you for todndnd— genius. anyway, sophie, thank you forjoining me. you are worondnd— you forjoining me. you are watching and— you forjoining me. you are watching and listening to gb uowo.— watching and listening to gb uowo.-up— watching and listening to gb uowo.-up .- watching and listening to gb news. up , heather news. coming up, heather moodonodd— news. coming up, heather macdonald, the fantastic commentator— macdonald, the fantastic commentator and author many commentator and author of many doodo— commentator and author of many doodo-wny— commentator and author of many books why meritocracy books detailing why meritocracy has books detailing why meritocracy noo—ro- books detailing why meritocracy. noo—do oworydody has been abandoned to everybody doddnond— has been abandoned to everybody detriment. but— has been abandoned to everybody detriment. but next, the fox and uowo— detriment. but next, the fox and uowo uoundo— detriment. but next, the fox and news hounds panel. reem ibrahim , oonoowordwo— news hounds panel. reem ibrahim , conservative commentator and door— , conservative commentator and door-drooodon— , conservative commentator and host bisection brunch, host of the bisection brunch, dowdo— host of the bisection brunch, down—no- host of the bisection brunch, dowdo—no ro| lewis oakley, joined me to ddoouoo— lewis oakley, joined me to ddoouoo wny— lewis oakley, joined me to discuss why we _ lewis oakley, joined me to discuss why we say obese discuss why we can't say obese ond— discuss why we can't say obese ond wny— discuss why we can't say obese ond wny d-o— discuss why we can't say obese and why it's your— discuss why we can't say obese and why it's your job pay for and why it's your job to pay for woror— and why it's your job to pay for woror oonpony— and why it's your job to pay for water company clean their and why it's your job to pay for wat back npany clean their

to gb news radio. hello, chums . to gb news radio. hello, chums. fox to gb news radio. hello, chums. row tn— to gb news radio. hello, chums. row dn rno— to gb news radio. hello, chums. fox in the news— to gb news radio. hello, chums. fox in the news hounds- [15 \r 33: hello, chums. fox in the news hounds time. rorndnd— fox in the news hounds time. rornrnd no— fox in the news hounds time. rornrnd no do— fox in the news hounds time. joining me is reem ibrahim, oonoowordwo— joining me is reem ibrahim, conservative commentator and door— conservative commentator and door or— conservative commentator and door or do — conservative commentator and host of the bisexual brunch and down— host of the bisexual brunch and dowdo doddoy— host of the bisexual brunch and lewis oakley kicking off. i woudd— lewis oakley kicking off. i woudd udo— lewis oakley kicking off. i would like to— lewis oakley kicking off. i would like to talk about laying ooddo— would like to talk about laying ooddo ddddo— would like to talk about laying cable bills could— would like to talk about laying cable bills could rise after woror— cable bills could rise after water supplies— cable bills could rise after water supplies in england said rnoy— water supplies in england said rnoy woro— water supplies in england said they were ready— water supplies in england said they were ready to spend £10 ddddon— they were ready to spend £10 billion tackling _ they were ready to spend £10 billion tackling sewage bills. so billion tackling sewage bills. so wny— billion tackling sewage bills. so wny oro— billion tackling sewage bills. so wny wo— billion tackling sewage bills. so why are we footing the bill? ouyo— so why are we footing the bill? ouyo rooon — so why are we footing the bill? ouyo doon sorry.—

so why are we footing the bill? guys reem sorry. lewis why my oorry— guys reem sorry. lewis why my oorry, ny— guys reem sorry. lewis why my oorry, ny nood— guys reem sorry. lewis why my oorry, ny nood do— guys reem sorry. lewis why my sorry, my neck is completely we onouddn-r— sorry, my neck is completely we onouddn-r do— sorry, my neck is completely we shouldn't be footing the bill. is shouldn't be footing the bill. do do— shouldn't be footing the bill. do do duod— shouldn't be footing the bill. is the truth on— shouldn't be footing the bill. is the truth on this. - shouldn't be footing the bill. is the truth on this. this- shouldn't be footing the bill. is the truth on this. this is outrageous. and i genuinely i think it should be jail for a lot of these people, or at least i would love to see the live shot as they kind of take all their assets out of their mansions look, we're mansions and say, look, we're going all off to going to sell this all off to put towards this. that put towards this. i know that they've, know , said that put towards this. i know that they'won't know , said that put towards this. i know that they'won't take )w , said that put towards this. i know that they'won't take a' , said that put towards this. i know that they'won't take a bonus thathe they won't take a bonus for the next year or whatever, but that's just good enough . i that's just not good enough. i genuinely think that this just is kind of an ongoing theme in the country because the country just feels like it's just everyone else is h1. t say what we have everyone else is h1. t say what wo nowo ro— everyone else is h1. t say what we have to drink,— ”g �* t say what we have to drink, everyone ooodo— we have to drink, everyone ooodo . — we have to drink, everyone ooodo . su— we have to drink, everyone else's. sh one- we have to drink, everyone else's. sh one t- we have to drink, everyone else's . “415?" we have to drink, everyone- else's . sh one t yeah, exactly. else's. sh one t yeah, exactly. that's true. feels like pretty much it does feel like modern britain to me. i know you pay to eat britain to me. i know you pay to oor ornor— britain to me. i know you pay to eat other people's— britain to me. i know you pay to eat other people's sh— britain to me. i know you pay to eat other people's sh d- " i know you pay to eat other people's sh d it does rood— eat other people's sh d it does rood udo— eat other people's sh d it does feel like modern— eat other people's sh d it does feel like modern britain. i mean we tend— feel like modern britain. i mean we doord odor— feel like modern britain. i mean we heard that it's— feel like modern britain. i mean we heard that it's about £30 more on our water bills to eat. someone else's d here, have a someone else's h1 d here, have a little gargle. that'll be 30. i love that you're subverting swearing that. that's swearing by doing that. that's brilliant. think

brilliant. look, i think that it's , but the answer it's awful, but the answer isn't nationalisation water nationalisation of water companies. is not to companies. the answer is not to take these companies into into government hands, because unfortunately, i think the government probably do a worse job. they have been setting job. well they have been setting us h1 t for three years now. us up h1 t for three years now. now. but now listen to me . why now. but now listen to me. why youo— now. but now listen to me. why you nor— now. but now listen to me. why you're not allowed— now. but now listen to me. why you're not allowed to agree on do— you're not allowed to agree on do own.— you're not allowed to agree on this stuff. you've— you're not allowed to agree on this stuff. you've got to ddoodroo— this stuff. you've got to ddoodroo . — this stuff. you've got to disagree . will this stuff. you've got to disagree . mice this stuff. you've got to disagree. lattice disagree. well, we have disagreed. you want nationalisation , you want to nationalisation, you want to nationalise. say i'd nationalise. i didn't say i'd like to. i wouldn't mind hearing the like to. iwouldn't mind hearing ono-on— like to. iwouldn't mind hearing ono-on on— the argument on on nationalisation just because i odro— nationalisation just because i rnoonrndo do— nationalisation just because i mean, this is this is a social donoorodo— mean, this is this is a social democratic party.— mean, this is this is a social democratic party. this is a oroor— democratic party. this is a good oooo— democratic party. this is a great case study for why you oon-r— great case study for why you oon-r you— great case study for why you can't you know— great case study for why you can't you know ,_ great case study for why you can't you know , it's not all can't you know, it's not all odour— can't you know, it's not all about private _ can't you know, it's not all about private businesses . ' ”c: about private businesses. are ddoy— about private businesses. are they nor— about private businesses. are they not paving— about private businesses. are they not paying for- about private businesses. are they not paying for it? what do you mean? why are they not paying you mean? why are they not paying for why we paying for it? why should we have for it? because they have to pay for it? because they don-r— have to pay for it? because they don-r-poy— have to pay for it? because they don-r-poy ror— have to pay for it? because they don-r-poy for d.- have to pay for it? because they don't-pay for it. that's. don't want to pay for it. that's no— don't want to pay for it. that's the-lawrence. - don't want to pay for it. that's the-lawrence. .thej the answer, lawrence. and the answer really here is that ooruoddy— answer really here is that ooruoddyld— answer really here is that actually i mean, this is companies i mean, this is a rooddy— companies i mean, this is a- rooddy—roddnd really good example of a failing prworo— really good example of a failing private sector— really good example of a failing private sector at— really good example of a failing private sector at the moment. duo-wo— private sector at the moment. we've seen huge— private sector at the moment. we've seen huge of we've seen huge amounts of rodudodon— we've seen huge amounts of regulation-water- regulation on the water dnduorry. — regulation on the water industry. for industry. thames water, for oxonpdo— industry. thames water, for oxonpdo .— industry. thames water, for oxonpdo , do— industry. thames water, for example , is effectively example, is effectively a nonopody. — example, is effectively a. monopoly. -have example, is effectively a- monopoly.-have any monopoly. you don't have any onodoo— monopoly. you don't have any choice-industry.- monopoly. you don't have any choice industry. so choice in that industry. so odoodwody— choice in that industry. so effectively what we've seen is odro— effectively what we've seen is

rndo-dnduorry- effectively what we've seen is rndo-dnduorry .- effectively what we've seen is this industry . what this failing industry. what noodo—do- this failing industry. what needs-is we. this failing industry. what. needs-is we need needs to happen is we need to wood— needs to happen is we need to break-companies- needs to happen is we need to break companies and needs to happen is we need to breaka companies and needs to happen is we need to breaka lot companies and needs to happen is we need to breaka lot more:ompanies and needs to happen is we need to breaka lot more choice. es and have a lot more choice. competition— have a lot more choice. competition effectively means odor— competition effectively means that-consumer- competition effectively means. that-consumer. pick that you as a consumer can pick wnoro—woror- that you as a consumer can pick where—water from. that you as a consumer can picki where—water from . where you get your water from. i where you get your water from. r dddnd— where you get your water from. r dddnd duod— where you get your water from. i think that-could- where you get your water from. i think that-could be- where you get your water from. i think that-could be a- i think that this could be a really great for eco really great way for the eco activists rebrand themselves activists to rebrand themselves and actually something the and actually do something the british . british public would support. stop what we stop pooping. and that's what we call it. just stop pooping . oh. call it. just stop pooping. oh. oh,— call it. just stop pooping. oh. on, my— call it. just stop pooping. oh. on, my ood.— call it. just stop pooping. oh. oh, my god. yeah— call it. just stop pooping. oh. oh, my god. yeah _ {sic c just stop pooping. o" oh, my god. yeah �*fd�*ac �*fd�*ac oh, my god. yeah what's. what's the other one? insulate britain . constipate. britain i can see this much genius. this . constipate. britain i can see this much genius . this is it. this much genius. this is it. let's go. protesting i'll march. i'll walk slowly like some sort of demented, high octane angel gabriel going. gonna die unless you have another bowl of tea. all right, i think. i think this is too much now, right ? can we is too much now, right? can we go on to the fat people thing ? go on to the fat people thing? oh, sorry. people have challenging girth or whatever. all right ? right. you're not all right? right. you're not allowed to call fat people , allowed to call fat people, fatties, blubber bellies or weebles . they wobble, they weebles. they wobble, but they don't down. experts say the don't fall down. experts say the term should be renamed term obesity should be renamed to appetite to chronic appetite dysregulation and should be renamed to remove stigma and reflect that it is an inherited

disease of eating all the pies. rhiannon are we being oversensitive here? i think this is a oversensitive here? i think this do o dodndody— oversensitive here? i think this is a definitely a— oversensitive here? i think this is a definitely a case- oversensitive here? i think this is a definitely a case of- is a definitely a case of oversensitivity. i'm sorry , but oversensitivity. i'm sorry, but if oversensitivity. i'm sorry, but to you— oversensitivity. i'm sorry, but to you oro— oversensitivity. i'm sorry, but if you are overweight, you are fat if you are overweight, you are for .— if you are overweight, you are for . wo-wo— if you are overweight, you are for . duo-yo dor— if you are overweight, you are fat . we've got to— if you are overweight, you are fat . we've got to call it what fat. we've got to call it what it fat. we've got to call it what d do— fat. we've got to call it what d do ond— fat. we've got to call it what d do ond wo— fat. we've got to call it what it is and we know- fat. we've got to call it what it is and we know that it's bad for it is and we know that it's bad tor-noodrn. — it is and we know that it's bad for-health. and- it is and we know that it's bad for-health. and so- it is and we know that it's bad for health. and so you've it is and we know that it's bad for to health. and so you've it is and we know that it's bad for to herbeing nd so you've it is and we know that it's bad for to herbeing so so you've it is and we know that it's bad for to herbeing so sensitiver got to stop being so sensitive odour— got to stop being so sensitive odour-dow— got to stop being so sensitive about-now, this- got to stop being so sensitive about now, this particular about it. now, this particular orory— about it. now, this particular orory do— about it. now, this particular story islrelation- about it. now, this particular story is relation to a story is in relation to a noddood— story is in relation to a medical procedure. i believe d-o— medical procedure. i believe to o— medical procedure. i believe to o no— medical procedure. i believe it's a it's actually a sort of jab— it's a it's actually a sort of tod odor— it's a it's actually a sort of jab that means— it's a it's actually a sort of jab that means that you're odoorwody— jab that means that you're effectively able to lose weight. and— effectively able to lose weight. and rnoy-ro— effectively able to lose weight. and they're looking at categories— categories for that. unfortunately, lot of unfortunately, i think a lot of rnooo— unfortunately, i think a lot of rnooo poopdo— unfortunately, i think a lot of these people -too. these people are being too oonodwo. — these people are being too sensitive. - don't - these people are being too sensitive. don't want to sensitive. they don't want to odnd— sensitive. they don't want to . odnd—oodnd admit that they've been eating ono-nony— admit that they've been eating ono-nony-pdoo- admit that they've been eating one many pies and admit that they've been eating- one-many-pies and they one too many cream pies and they just one too many cream pies and they tuor-ro— one too many cream pies and they tuor-ro nowo— one too many cream pies and they tuor-ro o— one too many cream pies and they just-to move a bit- one too many cream pies and they just to move a bit more. just learn to move a bit more. doudo— just learn to move a bit more. doudo nowo— just learn to move a bit more. louis have you— just learn to move a bit more. louis have you ever rolledi someone in flour and gone for do— someone in flour and gone for rno—. dood- someone in flour and gone for rno—. dood rl someone in flour and gone fori the_. look, i do the wet bits? no. look, i do rndnd— the wet bits? no. look, i do ondnd wdn— the wet bits? no. look, i do think with this— the wet bits? \rr:::r look, i do think with this there is a ddndudodo— think with this there is a linguistic argument here right? i linguistic argument here right? r rndnd— linguistic argument here right? r ondnd wo— linguistic argument here right? i think we should try and be oonodwo— i think we should try and be sensitive where— i think we should try and be sensitive where we can, but i do rndnd— sensitive where we can, but i do ondnd wo— sensitive where we can, but i do think we shouldn't— sensitive where we can, but i do think we shouldn't skirt around odooo— think we shouldn't skirt around odooo-or— think we shouldn't skirt around these of overweight . i these issues of overweight. i nowo— these issues of overweight. i nowo o— these issues of overweight. i have a feeling— these issues of overweight. i have a feeling neither of you guys— have a feeling neither of you duyo oro— have a feeling neither of you duyo oodd— have a feeling neither of you guys are avid guardian readers , guys are avid guardian readers, but guys are avid guardian readers, dur rnoro— guys are avid guardian readers, dur onoro woo— guys are avid guardian readers, but there was a— guys are avid guardian readers, but there was a story in there rnor— but there was a story in there rnor r— but there was a story in there rnor r-wonr— but there was a story in there that i-want you- but there was a story in there that i-want you to- but there was a story in there that i want you to miss. but there was a story in there tilove want you to miss. but there was a story in there tilove how want you to miss. but there was a story in there tilove how de ant you to miss. but there was a story in there tilove how de judgeu to miss. but there was a story in there tilove how de judge me miss. but there was a story in there tilove how de judge me that;. but there was a story in there tilove how de judge me that way. i love how de judge me that way.

i love how de judge me that way. r prodded— i love how de judge me that way. i profiled you. what— i love how de judge me that way. i profiled you. what can- i love how de judge me that way. rt;r: what can i say? i profiled you. what can i say? story— i profiled you. what can i say? srory p..— i profiled you. what can i say? srory dn rnoro— rt;r: what can i say? story in there yesterday that oodd— story in there yesterday that oodd odooo— story in there yesterday that said obese patients are costing the said obese patients are costing rno dus— said obese patients are costing the nhs twice— said obese patients are costing the nhs twice as— said obese patients are costing the nhs twice as much as those rnor— the nhs twice as much as those not oro— the nhs twice as much as those that are healthy— the nhs twice as much as those that are healthy weight and that if that are healthy weight and that d owory— that are healthy weight and that d owory ono— that are healthy weight and that d owory p..— that are healthy weight and that if every one in the— that are healthy weight and that if every one in the in england no— if every one in the in england no do— if every one in the in england no do duod— if every one in the in england this is just for— if every one in the in england this is just for england. if ooonory— this is just for england. if everyone england were a everyone in england were a noodrny— everyone in england were a healthy weight,— everyone in england were a healthy weight, would save healthy weight, they would save the healthy weight, they would save rno dus— healthy weight, they would save to uus p.— healthy weight, they would save the nhs 14 billion a year. so duod— the nhs 14 billion a year. so tuor rndnd— the nhs 14 billion a year. so tuor rndnd or— the nhs 14 billion a year. so just think of all— the nhs 14 billion a year. so just think of all the managers donuooo— just think of all the managers bonuses we could pay with that ipp bonuses we could pay with that rrd—soo- bonuses we could pay with that ipp_see there- bonuses we could pay with that ipp_see there are| ipp there we go. see there are ror— ipp there we go. see there are for d.— ipp there we go. see there are uses for it. but— ipp there we go. see there are uses for it. but on— ipp there we go. see there are uses for it. but on a serious noto— uses for it. but on a serious noro. dooouo— uses for it. but on a serious note, because i— uses for it. but on a serious note, because i do think the ordunonr— note, because i do think the argument always is about being oonpooodonoro— argument always is about being. compassionate—are compassionate to people that are oworwododd— compassionate to people that are oworwododd-r— compassionate to people that are oworwododd-r do- compassionate to people that are overweight, i do think we overweight, which i do think we onoudd— overweight, which i do think we should-actually-is| should do, but actually there is a should do, but actually there is o—dooo— should do, but actually there is o—dooo dodoy- a cost and this does delay poopdo-o— a cost and this does delay people's cancer- a cost and this does delay people's cancer treatments and odor—on— people's cancer treatments and ornor—on rno- people's cancer treatments and other—on the nhs. people's cancer treatments and. other—on the nhs. so, other treatments on the nhs. so, you know— other treatments on the nhs. so, you know .— other treatments on the nhs. so, you know . dro— other treatments on the nhs. so, you know , it's one— other treatments on the nhs. so, you know , it's one of those you know, it's one of those doouoo-dro- you know, it's one of those issues-it's-clearl you know, it's one of those- issues-it's-clear cut, issues where it's not clear cut, dur— issues where it's not clear cut, dud-nond— issues where it's not clear cut, dud-dong on— issues where it's not clear cut, dud-dong on o— issues where it's not clear cut, but hang on a minute. but is it hang on a minute. is it but is it hang on a minute. is d odour— but is it hang on a minute. is d odour duod— but is it hang on a minute. is it about that or— but is it hang on a minute. is it about that or is— but is it hang on a minute. is it about that or is it- but is it hang on a minute. is it about that or is it about the fact that what was at fact that what i was saying at the everyone the beginning, which everyone is searching for this unending victimhood youngsters victimhood and the youngsters have , look, there's a load have gone, look, there's a load of we're chunky. it's not of us. we're chunky. it's not our fault that we maltesers our fault that we like maltesers .yes. no, our fault that we like maltesers . yes. no, but can i say one wno— . yes. no, but can i say one thing, actually,— “4115 no, but can i say one thing, actually, because i was dodnd— thing, actually, because i was doing-research— thing, actually, because i was doing research for this doing the research for this orory. —od- 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at the looking at on twitter . at the looking at on twitter. lewis people were saying you're rooddy— lewis people were saying you're rooddy opprooodnd— lewis people were saying you're really oppressing her voice. i'm rooddy— really oppressing her voice. i'm rooddy oorry— really oppressing her voice. i'm really sorry-using- really oppressing her voice. i'm really sorry using your really sorry you're using your prdwddooo— really sorry you're using your privilege,-male- really sorry you're using your privilege, male privilege privilege, your male privilege to opprooo— privilege, your male privilege to opprooo o— privilege, your male privilege to oppress a young woman , an to oppress a young woman, an ornndo— to oppress a young woman, an ethnic minority,— to oppress a young woman, an ethnic minority, colour . ethnic minority, colour. how doro— ethnic minority, colour. how doro youo — ethnic minority, colour. how dare you? she's— ethnic minority, colour. how dare you? she's of- ethnic minority, colour. c111 7 she's of colour ethnic minority, colour. c111 rtr7 she's of colour . dare you? she's of colour. i'm not. why am i not white either? the left don't like that. they don-r— the left don't like that. they don-r udo— the left don't like that. they don't like oppression point. but rnor-o— don't like oppression point. but too oroordy— don't like oppression point. but that's exactly it.— don't like oppression point. but that's exactly it. right there is that's exactly it. right there do-urdo— that's exactly it. right there do-urdo ro- that's exactly it. right there do-urdo to dry- that's exactly it. right there is urge to try and be is this this urge to try and be no— is this this urge to try and be rno-droup.- is this this urge to try and be rno-droup. dn- is this this urge to try and be the group. i'm not the oppressed group. i'm not opprooood— the oppressed group. i'm not opprooood .— the oppressed group. i'm not oppressed , but— the oppressed group. i'm not oppressed , but being oppressed, but by being an ornndo— oppressed, but by being an ethnic-woman,- oppressed, but by being an ethnic woman, you're ethnic minority woman, you're not opprooood— ethnic minority woman, you're not opprooood dy— ethnic minority woman, you're not oppressed by being fat. vouro— not oppressed by being fat. dou-ro-ond- not oppressed by being fat. l you're-and-eating not oppressed by being fat. you're rt; and eating not oppressed by being fat. you're rt; “rtrcand eating not oppressed by being fat. you're rt; edi eating not oppressed by being fat. you're rt; not ating not oppressed by being fat. you're rt; not quite fat. he's not fat. not quite your— fat. he's not fat. not quite your nood— fat. he's not fat. not quite your nood .— fat. he's not fat. not quite your neck . you're- fat. rt; not quite your neck . you're quite in your neck. you're quite in odopo— your neck. you're quite in shape, actually, though. yeah .eappyp — shape, actually, though. yeah rooddyd r— shape, actually, though. yeah really? i haven't— shape, actually, though. yeah really? .. c rt;,dd

rnooo— wants to show that they have these oppression— wants to show that they have these oppression points that rnoy—ddndl these oppression points that rnoy—ddnd ofi they are part of this kind of ooodod— they are part of this kind of social justice— they are part of this kind of social justice warrior movement. ruor— social justice warrior movement. ruor-oonnd— social justice warrior movement. ruor-oonnd oo— social justice warrior movement. just caring so much, focus just stop caring so much, focus on youroodr— just stop caring so much, focus on yourself and— just stop caring so much, focus on yourself and get yourself donor.— on yourself and get yourself. better._probably better. otherwise you probably wddd— better. otherwise you probably wddd ddo. — better. otherwise you probably will die. you— better. otherwise you probably will die. you will.— better. otherwise you probably will die. /rt:r. tt �*diddrt; trt; better. otherwise you probably will die. /rt:r ct �*dsydrt; trt; will die. you will. we're all going to die. it's die sooner. sorry, but don't you think the whole point is that this sort of attack on strong principle and things like manliness and stuff like that and providing excuses and being a victim is part of the whole order of the modern world to go, look, we don't need masculinity because then we can impose all stupid rules on impose all these stupid rules on you time, make you you all the time, make you eat bugs stuff. no, definitely. bugs and stuff. no, definitely. and— bugs and stuff. no, definitely. and-rndo— bugs and stuff. no, definitely. and-rndo-or- bugs and stuff. no, definitely. and-this-of part| and i think this is sort of part of and i think this is sort of part or-rnor— and i think this is sort of part of that government of the way that government rodudodon — of the way that government regulation will— of the way that government regulation will on regulation will impinge on us. it regulation will impinge on us. rr—opooddndi it is. it is generally speaking, part— it is. it is generally speaking, port—ro- it is. it is generally speaking, pod—do doan it is. it is generally speaking, pod—do dodn ooi part of this trying to gain as now— part of this trying to gain as many oppression points as pooodddo. — many oppression points as pooodddo. id— many oppression points as possible. if you're possible. so if you're a white orroddnr— possible. so if you're a whitei straight—relatively straight man that is relatively orrroorwo— straight man that is relatively attractive or— straight man that is relatively attractive or relatively unfit . attractive or relatively unfit. so.— attractive or relatively unfit. so, lawrence,— attractive or relatively unfit. so, lawrence, possibly to , so, lawrence, possibly to, rodddnd— so, lawrence, possibly to, talking though, possibly you don-r— talking though, possibly you don-r nowo— talking though, possibly you don't have any— talking though, possibly you don't have any oppression podnro. — don't have any oppression podnro. and— don't have any oppression points. and so— don't have any oppression points. and so you can't pooodddy— points. and so you can't possibly have- points. and so you can't possibly have anything to oonpdodn— possibly have anything to oonpdodn-.- possibly have anything to complain . whereas if you complain about. whereas if you are complain about. whereas if you oro—rnor-o- complain about. whereas if you are _that's one- are overweight, that's one opprooodon— are overweight, that's one oppression you're are overweight, that's one. oppression -you're an oppression point. if you're an ornndo— oppression point. if you're an ethnic minority,— oppression point. if you're an ethnic minority, that's an opprooodon— ethnic minority, that's an oppression gay oppression point. if you are gay d-an_

oppression point. if you are gay -on opprooodon- oppression point. if you are gay , an oppression point. , that's an oppression point. and—do- , that's an oppression point. and—do d- and what this does is it effectively _ and what this does is it- effectively-pigeonholes, effectively puts it pigeonholes, you-victimhood,- you into this victimhood, which noono-you— you into this victimhood, which noono-you dor— you into this victimhood, which means you get excuses means that you get excuses for rndndo.— means that you get excuses for ndoo-dor— means that you get excuses for things. get excuses for things. so you get excuses for donor— things. so you get excuses for dodnd nudo— things. so you get excuses for dodnd rudo or— things. so you get excuses for being rude or excuses for being roodor— being rude or excuses for being roodor . — being rude or excuses for being roodor . dro— being rude or excuses for being racist . it's like— being rude or excuses for being racist . it's like that- being rude or excuses for being racist . c t racist. it's like that south park bit when he where the transgender persons in the restaurant and it goes , sorry, restaurant and it goes, sorry, sir, you're not allowed to watch in the bar. and he goes, no, i'm transgender. do anything you wont. — transgender. do anything you wont. vou— transgender. do anything you wont. you on— transgender. do anything you want. you can do— 3: do anything you want. you can do what you want. i want. you can do what you want. r wond— want. you can do what you want. i want-oppression— want. you can do what you want. i want-oppression .- want. you can do what you want. i want-oppression . no,- want. you can do what you want. i want-oppression . no, but. want. you can do what you want. 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" can i:rtrt~er~er did" \rrtr want. you can do what you want. can i just \rtr want. you can do what you want. can i just say \rtr want. you can do what you want. can i just say and hold on. can i just say and i don-r— hold on. can i just say and i don-r nowo— hold on. can i just say and i don't have statistics- “rttrr: can ijust say and i don't have statistics on this, dur— don't have statistics on this, dud-you— don't have statistics on this, but-you guys— don't have statistics on this, but you guys statistics but do you guys have statistics to but do you guys have statistics ro—tuor- but do you guys have statistics ro—tuor said?- to back what you just said? srordodoo. — to back what you just said? statistics. - in - to back what you just said? statistics. .in a- to back what you just said? statistics. in a lot of the statistics. but in a lot of the research iwas— statistics. but in a lot of the research was doing for this research i was doing for this odory—worol story, a lot of people were oonnondnd— story, a lot of people were commenting like commenting underneath being like .—dddo.— commenting underneath being like .—dddo. orop- , no, i'm just fat. like, stop noddnd— , no, i'm just fat. like, stop making excuses— , no, i'm just fat. like, stop making excuses for me. so ooruoddy— making excuses for me. so ooruoddyldo— making excuses for me. so actuallyido find- making excuses for me. so actually do find a lot of actually i do find a lot of poopdo— actually i do find a lot of poopdo-ooy- actually i do find a lot of people-sav to - actually i do find a lot of people say to you like, people will say to you like, i on — people will say to you like, i on .r-n— people will say to you like, i am i'm overweight. it's am fat, i'm overweight. it's ooruoddy— am fat, i'm overweight. it's actually other— am fat, i'm overweight. it's actually other people when rnoy-ro— actually other people when. rnoy-ro—nodo they're talking about it, make rnon— they're talking about it, make don-odour— they're talking about it, make them about every sensitive. them feel about every sensitive. we them feel about every sensitive. duo odoudd— them feel about every sensitive. we should make— them feel about every sensitive. we should make people- them feel about every sensitive. we should make people feel bad about it. when the great thing is about it. when the great thing do odour— about it. when the great thing do odour dro— about it. when the great thing is about life is— about it. when the great thing is about life is we— c when the great thing is about life is we all come in ddroronr— is about life is we all come in different-and- is about life is we all come in different and sizes. oh, different shapes and sizes. oh, i i different shapes and sizes. oh, r—r droodrool i can't just go. i disagree. if you eat too much, i know i can't just go. i disagree. if you secretly,t too much, i know i can't just go. i disagree. if you secretly, secretly, :h, i know i can't just go. i disagree. if you secretly, secretly, we know i can't just go. i disagree. if you secretly, secretly, we do. if that secretly, secretly, we do. but trying to be inclusive. but i'm trying to be inclusive. right?— but i'm trying to be inclusive. round—roor- but i'm trying to be inclusive. right? _toot the l right? i'm about to toot the

nodrdno— right? i'm about to toot the halftime—is- halftime horn, which is proporod— halftime horn, which is prepared. what's it going to oound— prepared. what's it going to sound like?— prepared. what's it going to sound like? you're watching and ddorondnd— sound like? you're watching and ddorondnd ro— sound like? you're watching and listening to gb— sound like? you're watching and listening to gb news. still to come, heather— listening to gb news. still to come, heather macdonald . oh, come, heather macdonald. oh, acos— come, heather macdonald. oh, odds on— come, heather macdonald. oh, aoas .— come, heather macdonald. oh, acas man , that's— come, heather macdonald. oh, acas man , that's just dreadful . acas man, that's just dreadful. wru— acas man, that's just dreadful. wdddd you— acas man, that's just dreadful. wru you neop— acas man, that's just dreadful. will you keep that— acas man, that's just dreadful. will you keep that up- acas man, that's just dreadful. will you keep that up ?- acas man, that's just dreadful. will you keep that up ? beetles will you keep that up? beetles keep it up. beetles heather macdonald amazing commentator and author of many books detailing anas sarwar meritocracy. meritocracy has doon— meritocracy. meritocracy has been abandoned— tt meritocracy has been abandoned everyone's been abandoned to everyone's doddnond— been abandoned to everyone's detriment-would- been abandoned to everyone's detriment. would you eat detriment. next would you eat eggs— detriment. next would you eat oddo on— detriment. next would you eat oddo on o— detriment. next would you eat oddo on o duo— detriment. next would you eat eggs on a bus back.

c15 \ britain's news. channel i hola,l channel hola, chicas. now you've been getting in here's what getting in touch. here's what you say with regards to you have to say with regards to whether we should call junkies obese. lynn says we should just tell people that they're fat, they should eat less, lose weight. their weight means they take up large part of the nhs take up a large part of the nhs budget. i and others like me, in effect subsidising their gluttony. sounds

gluttony. oh my god, that sounds terribly commonsensical, you terribly commonsensical, but you have just offended everyone and you're cancelled. on you're now cancelled. on the subject how to solve a subject of how to solve a problem like matt hancock , iris problem like matt hancock, iris says, should come on says, i think you should come on your you can wipe the your show so you can wipe the floor with him. he's arrogant and self opinionated. should floor with him. he's arrogant and sdfacejinionated. should floor with him. he's arrogant and sdfacejin face ed. should floor with him. he's arrogant and sdfacejin face with should floor with him. he's arrogant and sdfacejin face with allhould floor with him. he's arrogant and sdfacejin face with all the d come face to face with all the people have lost loved people that have lost loved ones. just ones. yeah you know, it's just ask for some forgiveness. you've got all the perks of being a pubuc got all the perks of being a public servant, which you're now going real going to take into the real world whole tonne of world and make a whole tonne of money of them. but you can't money out of them. but you can't take me . he take responsibility for me. he needs iron filings down his needs some iron filings down his spine on gross sewage spine on the gross sewage spillage story. anna says. how have we gone back to the 1800s? how can the scandal be how can the sewage scandal be acceptable day and age? acceptable in this day and age? i well, one word i am fuming. well, one word politicians and a twitter user has suggested that i appear on i appear or matt does naked attraction. oh matt. well, i'm up for both naked attraction. i could trans myself . i'm ready to could trans myself. i'm ready to show people my non—binary and anyway reem and lewis oakley are here for more panel time . i'm here for more panel time. i'm eggs mackerel, blue cheese, tuna

bananas , no tuna, comma, bananas bananas, no tuna, comma, bananas and pepperoni is my favourite. what shouldn't you eat in a confined space with strangers ? confined space with strangers? as a survey shows that people's least like foods when stuck on a train or a bus. louis how least like foods when stuck on a train or a bus . louis how stinky train or a bus. louis how stinky are your snacks ? pretty stinky are your snacks? pretty stinky dooouo— are your snacks? pretty stinky dooouo r— are your snacks? pretty stinky because i actually— are your snacks? pretty stinky because i actually do- etrt t t7 pretty stinky because i actually do like oorddnoo— because i actually do like oorddnoo r— because i actually do like sardines. i mean, i was reading rnor— sardines. i mean, i was reading not nor— sardines. i mean, i was reading dot dot ond— sardines. i mean, i was reading that list and r— sardines. i mean, i was reading that list and i was— sardines. i mean, i was reading that list and i was like, my god— that list and i was like, my god ny— that list and i was like, my god, my fiance— that list and i was like, my god, my fiance doesn't even let no—or— god, my fiance doesn't even let no—or rnooo- god, my fiance doesn't even let me _of these .the i me have most of these in the nouo — me have most of these in the house. lefties— me have most of these in the house. lefties absolute lefty. what's that got to do with my dietary choice? so, lefty, it's udo— dietary choice? so, lefty, it's like sardines— dietary choice? so, lefty, it's like sardines and— r: rteq rt. rt.rt7’ so, lefty, it's like sardines and avocados , is like sardines and avocados, is it? like sardines and avocados, is do rnoro-o— like sardines and avocados, is do rnoro-o no— like sardines and avocados, is it? there's no avocado . c it? there's no avocado. it's oory— it? there's no avocado. it's very udo— it? there's no avocado. it's very like middle class champagne . socialist vibes, is it? yeah it comes in a can. do you. do you— it comes in a can. do you. do you nowo— it comes in a can. do you. do you nowo do— it comes in a can. do you. do you nowo do you— it comes in a can. do you. do you have do you have sardines ond— you have do you have sardines ond odoo— you have do you have sardines and avocados that— you have do you have sardines and avocados that your bisexual drunond — and avocados that your bisexual drunond uo— and avocados that your bisexual drunond do .— and avocados that your bisexual brunch? no , no. i— and avocados that your bisexual brunch? \rrtr i told you with brunch? no, no. i told you with ddooxuod— brunch? no, no. i told you with bisexual brunch,— brunch? no, no. i told you with bisexual brunch, i— brunch? \rtr itold you with bisexual brunch, i signed on to the bisexual brunch, i signed on to do onow— bisexual brunch, i signed on to the show because— bisexual brunch, i signed on to the show because i was told we oodno— the show because i was told we oodno ro— the show because i was told we oodno do do— the show because i was told we were going to go to all these rodudouo— were going to go to all these fabulous restaurants. then covid hit fabulous restaurants. then covid dd ond— fabulous restaurants. then covid dd ond ryo— fabulous restaurants. then covid hit and i've never— fabulous restaurants. then covid hit and i've never-a- fabulous restaurants. then covid hit and i've never a free hit and i've never had a free nood — hit and i've never had a free- nood —ddoo meal. how stinky are your bits? of free meals, of course you want free meals, you absolutely you lefty. i absolutely love a runo—

you lefty. i absolutely love a tuna sandwich _ you lefty. i absolutely love a tuna sandwich and- you lefty. i absolutely love a tuna sandwich and i- i absolutely love a tuna sandwich and i have a tuna oondwdon— tuna sandwich and i have a tuna sandwich with— tuna sandwich and i have a tuna sandwich with sweetcorn. i've nod— sandwich with sweetcorn. i've nod d— sandwich with sweetcorn. i've nod d on— sandwich with sweetcorn. i've had it since i— sandwich with sweetcorn. i've had it since i was— sandwich with sweetcorn. i've had it since i was a kid. my mum woudd— had it since i was a kid. my mum woudd-dr— had it since i was a kid. my mum woudd-d ror— had it since i was a kid. my mum woudd-d for my— had it since i was a kid. my mum would it for my pack lunch would make it for my pack lunch and would make it for my pack lunch odd—dooo— would make it for my pack lunch odd—dowo d.- would make it for my pack lunch and—love it. so- and i absolutely love it. so rnor-o— and i absolutely love it. so rnor-o dudo— and i absolutely love it. so that's quite smelly. i also dudo— that's quite smelly. i also dudo udo— that's quite smelly. i also quite like cheese, but cheese, nor— quite like cheese, but cheese, nor odndy— quite like cheese, but cheese, not stinky stinky— quite like cheese, but cheese, not stinky stinky bishop . i'm not stinky stinky bishop. i'm dudo— not stinky stinky bishop. i'm quite common. _ not stinky stinky bishop. i'm quite common. would you take it? ddoudd— quite common. would you take it? ddoudd you— quite common. would you take it? woudd you dod— quite common. would you take it? woudd you get on— quite common. would you take it? would you get on a— quite common. would you take it? would you get on a crowded- quite common. would you take it? would you get on a crowded tube train with a stinky bishop ? a train with a stinky bishop? a stinky bishop? probably not. oono— stinky bishop? probably not. oono on— stinky bishop? probably not. come on, bear. _ stinky bishop? probably not. come on, bear. ce d/rtder come on, bear. camembert. yes on o— come on, bear. camembert. yes on o rudo— come on, bear. camembert. yes on a tube train.— come on, bear. camembert. yes on a tube train. yes.— come on, bear. camembert. yes on a tube train. yes. i— come on, bear. camembert. yes on a tube train. yes. i love- come on, bear. ce d/rtder on a tube train. yes. i love the onodd— on a tube train. yes. i love the onodd or— on a tube train. yes. i love the smell of camembert. i think it onoddo— smell of camembert. i think it onoddo oo— smell of camembert. i think it smells so good.— smell of camembert. i think it smells so good. well, what about if smells so good. well, what about d-rnorod — smells so good. well, what about if-there? especially- smells so good. well, what about if there? t if i'm on there? especially with garlic? so camembert- if i'm on there? t ”dex rt.7’ so camembert with garlic garlic? so camembert with garlic nodrod.— garlic? so camembert with garlic nodrod. dro— garlic? so camembert with garlic melted. it's like— garlic? so camembert with garlic melted. it's like in— ”dex rt.7’ so camembert with garlic melted. it's like in the oven ond— melted. it's like in the oven and melted. _ melted. it's like in the oven and melted. it's- melted. it's like in the oven and melted. c g: �*dfyde and melted. it's so good. what about real cheeses that people outside of london don't eat cheddar ? i what do you mean by cheddar? i what do you mean by rood— cheddar? i what do you mean by real cheeses? _ cheddar? i what do you mean by real cheeses? should— t::7 i what do you mean by real cheeses? : real cheeses? should they be allowed on public transport? they should be certainly oddowod. — they should be certainly allowed. �*dfyd t t they should be certainly allowed. whether or not they should them, i think should be having them, i think is a different question. whether or they're being sort of or not they're being sort of aware people around aware of other people around them. what do you like to them. well what do you like to have, florence? got do have, florence? i've got i do have, florence? i've got i do have problem have a slight pepperoni problem . pepperoni well you . pepperoni problem. well you know, i get pepperoni .

know, i get pepperoni. reconstituted. pig scrotum or wnorowor— reconstituted. pig scrotum or wnorowor dro— reconstituted. pig scrotum or whatever it's made- “t ctcrtr: pig scrotum or whatever it's made out of. and i rooddy— whatever it's made out of. and i rooddy rornor— whatever it's made out of. and i really rather like— whatever it's made out of. and i really rather like them. and dowdo— really rather like them. and dowdo nowo— really rather like them. and lewis have you— really rather like them. and lewis have you ever got into rrouddo— lewis have you ever got into rrouddo ror— lewis have you ever got into trouble for stinky eating? \rrtr trouble for stinky eating? no. i . do— trouble for stinky eating? no. i mean , to me, i've— trouble for stinky eating? no. i mean , to me, i've got- trouble for stinky eating? no. i mean , to me, i've got three mean, to me, i've got three kids. two. two of them are under three. so i will give them whatever it takes to keep them occupied. so i don't care if it's . it smells, not sardines , it's. it smells, not sardines, tuna, tuna and eggs that are on this. they've had tuna sandwiches, eggs , sandwiches. sandwiches, eggs, sandwiches. and if complained , i and if anyone complained, i would just take it off them and let them. sandwiches are elite, rnoudn— let them. sandwiches are elite, rnoudn .— let them. sandwiches are elite, rnoudn . wdn— sandwiches are elite, though , with sweetcorn . solar though, with sweetcorn. my opordonoo— though, with sweetcorn. my experience of— though, with sweetcorn. my experience of all— though, with sweetcorn. my experience of all this is why is it that the people who eat the stinkiest stuff seem to the stinkiest stuff seem to be the most pugilistic? you most pugilistic? when you confront them it they confront them about it or they sit train, they've sit on the train, they've usually the side usually got a bag on the side next the next to them. their feet on the chairs they make a chairs up in front. they make a noise it? breath noise there. what's it? breath is going everywhere and it's just like and then if you kind of they whoa, of look at them, they go, whoa, you do kind of get their phone playing music . yeah. you do kind of get their phone playing music. yeah. really loud. no earphones . you're loud. no earphones. you're right. and i think generally speaking, you get really

annoying people that eat really smelly train . i smelly foods on the train. i personally would prefer to personally would prefer not to have i personally wouldn't just because , you know, because i think that, you know, trying of other because i think that, you know, trying but of other because i think that, you know, trying but also of other because i think that, you know, trying but also whenrther the people, but also when i'm on the tube, really, really tube, it's either really, really early or really early in the morning or really late i'm not going late at night. and i'm not going to eating, although have late at night. and i'm not going to aeating, although have late at night. and i'm not going to a smelly although have late at night. and i'm not going to a smelly max ugh have late at night. and i'm not going to a smelly max oni have late at night. and i'm not going to a smelly max on therave late at night. and i'm not going to a smelly max on the tube at had a smelly max on the tube at i had a smelly max on the tube at 1 am. and it had a smelly max on the tube at 1a.m. and it was great. and i have no regrets. should we consider capital punishment for those that eat smelly food on the tube? no, i don't know. i, i rndnd— the tube? no, i don't know. i, i rndnd d-o— the tube? no, i don't know. i, i rndnd to nor— the tube? no, i don't know. i, i think it's not nice,— the tube? no, i don't know. i, i think it's not nice, but- t. th;7 no, i don't know. i, i think it's not nice, but i think duod— think it's not nice, but i think tuor tuor— think it's not nice, but i think tuor tuor o— think it's not nice, but i think just just a disapproving look. i rndnd— just just a disapproving look. i rndnd w-woo— just just a disapproving look. i think we've got— just just a disapproving look. i think we've got a— just just a disapproving look. i think we've got a lot of massive proddono— think we've got a lot of massive proddono dn— think we've got a lot of massive problems in this— think we've got a lot of massive problems in this country and someone eating— problems in this country and someone eating a smelly sandwich on no— someone eating a smelly sandwich on do rudo— someone eating a smelly sandwich on do rudo do— someone eating a smelly sandwich on the tube is just— someone eating a smelly sandwich on the tube is just not on my rodor— on the tube is just not on my rodor or— on the tube is just not on my radar or problems— on the tube is just not on my radar or problems . / radar or problems. yeah, but wnor— radar or problems. yeah, but what about if someone was at the very, very end of their rope ? very, very end of their rope? what do you mean? how with all the problems in this country, just one sandwich too much. you turn up with your and start to peel your little thing of anchovies and then they just .uk reasons why game over. your sardines will be my 13th reason. well, you know what? if my

oorddnoo— well, you know what? if my sardines are _ well, you know what? if my sardines are a— well, you know what? if my sardines are a cheater sandwich is sardines are a cheater sandwich do wnor— sardines are a cheater sandwich do wdor drdndo— sardines are a cheater sandwich is what brings it— sardines are a cheater sandwich is what brings it all crashing to is what brings it all crashing do on— is what brings it all crashing do on odd.— is what brings it all crashing to an end, then— is what brings it all crashing to an end, then that just to an end, then that was just a oroor— to an end, then that was just a oroor-ond— to an end, then that was just a oroor-odd rdo- to an end, then that was just a great end the story. great way to end the story. rdoro— great way to end the story. rdoro-nuod- great way to end the story. i there-much hope. what there wasn't much hope. what a shocking just there wasn't much hope. what a odooddnd-tuorldo- there wasn't much hope. what a shocking .justlgo . - there wasn't much hope. what a shocking just go . all shocking way just to go. all someone sensitive- shocking way just to go. all someone sensitive is- shocking way just to go. c 7 yeah. someone sensitive is it? yeah. what's insensitive— someone sensitive is it? yeah. what's insensitive ? - someone sensitive is it? yeah. what's insensitive ? your what's insensitive? your oorddnoo— what's insensitive? your sardines might drive someone to suicide and you don't even have. you don't have. you don't care at you don't have. you don't care or odd. ony— you don't have. you don't care at all. okay. are— you don't have. you don't care at all. okay. are there- you don't have. /rtr. cdifid" c t trt okay. are there any at all. okay. are there any oroor— at all. okay. are there any good doodo— at all. okay. are there any great foods that— okay. are there any great foods that you'd like to get great foods that you'd like to dot on— great foods that you'd like to dot on do— great foods that you'd like to get on the train— great foods that you'd like to get on the train with on the odoop— get on the train with on the odoop d — get on the train with on the odoop d r— get on the train with on the cheap ? i really- get on the train with on the cheap ? trtettyr t get on the train with on the cheap ? trtettar t cheap? i really like to have, you know, the m&s caterpillars like sweets and give like the little sweets and give them out. i do not give. i do not share. oh, yeah , you're not share. oh, yeah, you're a conservative. iforgot not share. oh, yeah, you're a conservative. i forgot about dod— conservative. i forgot about that._share? i conservative. i forgot about- that._share? yeah. that. why would i share? yeah. udoo— that. why would i share? yeah. wnod do— that. why would i share? yeah. wnod do you— that. why would i share? yeah. what do you like— that. why would i share? yeah. what do you like to— that. why would i share? yeah. what do you like to have on the tube? i i'm partial to yum yum tube? i i'm partial to a yum yum , a yum yum. my mum loves them. i , a yum yum. my mum loves them. r duy— , a yum yum. my mum loves them. i buy them just at the same time as i i buy them just at the same time asi buy i buy them just at the same time as i buy the two cans of gin and tonic like diane abbott. as i get the long train ride, get on the long train ride, the tonic the tube, the other tonic on the tube, the other day. it great. you? yeah day. it was great. did you? yeah arndo. — day. it was great. did you? yeah arndo. -rdond— day. it was great. did you? yeah arnie. _thank you- r:e it was great. did you? yeah arnie. thank you guys rte it was great. did you? yeah arnie. thank you guys for arnie. well, thank you guys for ddwnd— arnie. well, thank you guys for done no— arnie. well, thank you guys for done no your— arnie. well, thank you guys for giving me your deep insights odour—doodi giving me your deep insights. odour—food . about the stinkiness of food. rdond— about the stinkiness of food. rdond you. — about the stinkiness of food. thank you. reem _ about the stinkiness of food. thank you. reem ibrahim- about the stinkiness of food. thank you. reem ibrahim and lewis oakley for joining me on

the fox and news hounds panel. next heather mcdonald , next up, heather mcdonald, commentator and author many commentator and author of many books why meritocracy books detailing why meritocracy has abandoned everyone's has been abandoned to everyone's detriment .

how hello i it is my great honour to be joined by an author who will bravely speak up about the inconsistency in progressive ideology and why the facts don't just stack up. heather mcdonald , author of many books diversity delusion the war on cops and the soon to be released her soon to be released book is joining me now. heather, thank you for joining me. could you tell me joe biden said at howard university last week that the biggest problem in was threatening america was white supremacy . is that supported by

supremacy. is that supported by facts and data . it's hilarious. facts and data. it's hilarious. lawrence this— facts and data. it's hilarious. lawrence this is— facts and data. it's hilarious. lawrence this is one- t e“r: r:ee it's hilarious. lawrence this is one of his dowourdo— lawrence this is one of his favourite lines.— lawrence this is one of his favourite lines. no, it is not. wnon— favourite lines. no, it is not. wnon you— favourite lines. no, it is not. when you look— favourite lines. no, it is not. when you look at interracial wodonoo— when you look at interracial violence between whites and ddoodo— violence between whites and ddoodo ond— violence between whites and blacks and whites and blacks and wddroo— blacks and whites and blacks and wddoo nor— blacks and whites and blacks and whites not lethal— blacks and whites and blacks and whites not lethal interracial wodonoo— whites not lethal interracial violence, blacks— whites not lethal interracial violence, blacks commit 87% of all interracial— violence, blacks commit 87% of all interracial violence between ddoodo— all interracial violence between ddoodo ond— all interracial violence between blacks and whites— all interracial violence between blacks and whites and whites and ddoodo— blacks and whites and whites and ddoodo .— blacks and whites and whites and ddoodo . duo-wo— blacks and whites and whites and blacks . we've got— blacks and whites and whites and blacks . we've got this maudlin blacks. we've got this maudlin oonood— blacks. we've got this maudlin oonood oodno— blacks. we've got this maudlin conceit going around that onoddo.— conceit going around that existing, well,— conceit going around that existing, well, black in america is existing, well, black in america do rooddy.— existing, well, black in america is really, really— existing, well, black in america is really, really dangerous, rdondo— is really, really dangerous, rdondo ro— is really, really dangerous, thanks to white supremacy. rdor-o— thanks to white supremacy. that's completely phoney. lawrence it— that's completely phoney. lawrence it is— that's completely phoney. lawrence it is dangerous to onod— lawrence it is dangerous to oodor wdddo— lawrence it is dangerous to exist while black in america. t hey— exist while black in america. rdoy dooo— exist while black in america. they have blacks have a much ddddor— they have blacks have a much ddddor rodo— they have blacks have a much ddddor no or— they have blacks have a much higher rate of death by gun dondoddo. — higher rate of death by gun homicide. in— higher rate of death by gun homicide. in fact , black homicide. in fact, black tuwonddoo— homicide. in fact, black juveniles after the george floyd dodo— juveniles after the george floyd rdoro od— juveniles after the george floyd race riots of june— juveniles after the george floyd race riots of june 2020. now die of race riots of june 2020. now die or dun— race riots of june 2020. now die of gun homicide— race riots of june 2020. now die of gun homicide at— race riots of june 2020. now die of gun homicide at 100 times the rodo— of gun homicide at 100 times the no or— of gun homicide at 100 times the no or wddo — of gun homicide at 100 times the rate of white juveniles. who's dddddnd— rate of white juveniles. who's dddddnd rdon— rate of white juveniles. who's killing them 7— rate of white juveniles. who's killing them ? not the police, killing them? not the police, not killing them? not the police, nor wddoo— killing them? not the police, nor wddoo .— killing them? not the police, not whites , but— killing them? not the police, not whites , but other blacks and not whites, but other blacks and for rdor—

not whites, but other blacks and for that reason,— not whites, but other blacks and for that reason, the— not whites, but other blacks and for that reason, the country wddd— for that reason, the country wddd nor— for that reason, the country will not talk— for that reason, the country will not talk about it. it turns its will not talk about it. it turns do oyoo— will not talk about it. it turns do oyoo owoy— will not talk about it. it turns its eyes away from a pathological inner city culture ddod— pathological inner city culture do do— pathological inner city culture that is driving— pathological inner city culture that is driving this black on ddood— that is driving this black on black violence— that is driving this black on black violence is it is it a uo— black violence is it is it a so— black violence is it is it a ruse? so biden- black violence is it is it a ruse? : ruse? so biden must have realised by saying this to the american public that they're all racists, essentially . is this a racists, essentially. is this a ruse to try and draw in the black vote in america because he's not going to get the white vote because he's called them all racist and oh, that's way all a racist and oh, that's way too optimistic? lawrence are you dddddnd— too optimistic? lawrence are you dddddnd nod— too optimistic? lawrence are you kidding me? number— rt.7’ lawrence are you kidding me? number one, he's got the kidding me? number one, he's got ddo ddood— kidding me? number one, he's got the black vote.— kidding me? number one, he's got the black vote. number two, he dodo— the black vote. number two, he ooro rdo— the black vote. number two, he ooro rdo wddo— the black vote. number two, he gets the white vote from the oddoo— gets the white vote from the oddoo wdo — gets the white vote from the elites who who _ gets the white vote from the elites who who feel a great rush of wduo— elites who who feel a great rush of wduo ond— elites who who feel a great rush of virtue and superiority by ooouodnd— of virtue and superiority by accusing themselves and their ooddooduoo— accusing themselves and their colleagues and— accusing themselves and their colleagues and their institutions- colleagues and their institutions of phantom racism . institutions of phantom racism. rddo— institutions of phantom racism. do do— institutions of phantom racism. do do nod— institutions of phantom racism. do do not o— institutions of phantom racism. this is not a white supremacist ooundy— this is not a white supremacist ooundy. d— this is not a white supremacist oounrry. d woo— this is not a white supremacist country. it was a— this is not a white supremacist country. it was a it— this is not a white supremacist country. it was a it was a dorrdddy— country. it was a it was a horribly white— country. it was a it was a horribly white supremacist ooundy— horribly white supremacist ooundy. d— horribly white supremacist country. it treated blacks with drorudouo— country. it treated blacks with gratuitous contempt and cruelty. but gratuitous contempt and cruelty. dud dodoy— gratuitous contempt and cruelty. but today, lawrence , the reality but today, lawrence, the reality is but today, lawrence, the reality do oxoody— but today, lawrence, the reality do oxoordy ddo — but today, lawrence, the reality is exactly the opposite . the is exactly the opposite. the rooddy— is exactly the opposite. the

rooddy rodoy— is exactly the opposite. the reality today is— is exactly the opposite. the reality today is black privilege . nod— reality today is black privilege . nor wddo— reality today is black privilege , not white privilege. there is nor— , not white privilege. there is not o— , not white privilege. there is not o odnddo— , not white privilege. there is not a single mainstream institution— not a single mainstream institution in— not a single mainstream institution in the united odroo— institution in the united states, whether a university rdody— states, whether a university rdody o— states, whether a university motty a cancer— states, whether a university motty a cancer research lab, an adzdodnor-o— motty a cancer research lab, an alzheimer's research lab , a law alzheimer's research lab, a law firm— alzheimer's research lab, a law drn. o— alzheimer's research lab, a law drn. o noddo— alzheimer's research lab, a law firm, a media company that is nod— firm, a media company that is not ddwdnd— firm, a media company that is not giving massive preferences to not giving massive preferences do ddood— not giving massive preferences do ddood ond— not giving massive preferences to black and hispanic applicants and to black and hispanic applicants ond do— to black and hispanic applicants and to employees.— to black and hispanic applicants and to employees. if you're a heterosexual— and to employees. if you're a heterosexual white male in the undod— heterosexual white male in the united states— heterosexual white male in the united states today, you are at the united states today, you are at ddo dodon — united states today, you are at the bottom of— united states today, you are at the bottom of the— united states today, you are at the bottom of the totem pole . the bottom of the totem pole. vou— the bottom of the totem pole. dou wddd— the bottom of the totem pole. dou wddd do— the bottom of the totem pole. you will be admitted last, you wdd— you will be admitted last, you wddd do— you will be admitted last, you will be promoted— you will be admitted last, you will be promoted last . will be promoted last. that's so duo.— will be promoted last. that's so two so— will be promoted last. that's so two so you— will be promoted last. that's so true. so you would say in the diversity delusion, you spoke a lot about this. you know, affirmative action being forced on society and certainly in universities and education and how that created massive disparity . rs within the society disparity. rs within the society has this american great society experiment been of any beneficial , any benefit to beneficial, any benefit to america? or has it been an unmitigated disaster. racial preferences are an- t. t“ c g: r: racial preferences are an unmitigated ddooodon— preferences are an unmitigated disaster. lawrence they put ddodr— disaster. lawrence they put

their alleged _ disaster. lawrence they put their alleged beneficiaries at an extreme disadvantage . they an extreme disadvantage. they rdoy— an extreme disadvantage. they rdoy dooo— an extreme disadvantage. they they have depressed academe achievement— they have depressed academe achievement among the beneficiaries— achievement among the beneficiaries of these preferences- beneficiaries of these preferences who know that they wdd— preferences who know that they wddd do — preferences who know that they will be admitted _ preferences who know that they will be admitted to selective institutions— will be admitted to selective institutions under grossly doworod— institutions under grossly lowered standards. and here's the lowered standards. and here's ddo doy— lowered standards. and here's rdo doy. rouro— lowered standards. and here's the key. you're not helping oonodody— the key. you're not helping oonodody dy— the key. you're not helping somebody by putting them into an onwronrnond— somebody by putting them into an environment for— somebody by putting them into an environment for which he is not oonporddwody— environment for which he is not competitively qualified. let's rodo— competitively qualified. let's rodo d— competitively qualified. let's rodo d-od— competitively qualified. let's take it-of race- competitively qualified. let's take it of race and look at take it out of race and look at gender-— take it out of race and look at dondor. a— take it out of race and look at gender. a phrase— take it out of race and look at gender. a phrase i— take it out of race and look at gender. a phrase i hate. if the mass achusetts_ gender. a phrase i hate. if the mass achusetts institute of roodnodody— mass achusetts institute of technology here in the united odroo— technology here in the united sroroo. dn— technology here in the united states, in boston— technology here in the united states, in boston , one of our states, in boston, one of our drondor— states, in boston, one of our premier science— states, in boston, one of our premier science and math skills, odndrod— premier science and math skills, odnddod no— premier science and math skills, admitted me out— premier science and math skills, admitted me out of gender parity and admitted me out of gender parity ond ny— admitted me out of gender parity ond ny nodd— admitted me out of gender parity and my math skills were a odondord— and my math skills were a standard deviation below those of standard deviation below those od ny— standard deviation below those or my pooro— standard deviation below those or my pooro wdo— standard deviation below those of my peers who had been odnddod— of my peers who had been admitted on— of my peers who had been admitted on the basis of merit, not admitted on the basis of merit, nor on— admitted on the basis of merit, nor on do— admitted on the basis of merit, not on the basis— admitted on the basis of merit, not on the basis of— admitted on the basis of merit, not on the basis of trivialities of not on the basis of trivialities od oonodo— not on the basis of trivialities or donodo ond— not on the basis of trivialities of gonads and melanin. i would ddoundor— of gonads and melanin. i would ddoundor dn— of gonads and melanin. i would ddoundor dn ny— of gonads and melanin. i would flounder in my first year oodouduo— flounder in my first year calculus class.- flounder in my first year calculus class. i would not be oddo— calculus class. i would not be oddo ro— calculus class. i would not be oddo do doop— calculus class. i would not be oddo do doop up— calculus class. i would not be able to keep up because the doooddnd— able to keep up because the teaching would— able to keep up because the teaching would be understandably and legitimately— teaching would be understandably and legitimately pitched to that of and legitimately pitched to that or do— and legitimately pitched to that or ddo poor— and legitimately pitched to that of the peer average. if i'd been odnddod— of the peer average. if i'd been odnddod do— of the peer average. if i'd been admitted to a— of the peer average. if i'd been admitted to a school for which i

was competitively— admitted to a school for which i was competitively qualified, i woudd— was competitively qualified, i woudd do— was competitively qualified, i would do much— was competitively qualified, i would do much better . so was competitively qualified, i would do much better. so this ddoo— would do much better. so this ddoo ddod— would do much better. so this idea that these— would do much better. so this idea that these preening, self—righteous college leaders ddod— self—righteous college leaders do do— self—righteous college leaders that go around— self—righteous college leaders that go around talking about ddworody— that go around talking about diversity and— that go around talking about diversity and engineer diversity ddroudd— diversity and engineer diversity rdroudd ddooo— diversity and engineer diversity through these vast racial double odondordo— through these vast racial double standards are— through these vast racial double standards are actually hurting the standards are actually hurting ddo oddodod— standards are actually hurting the alleged beneficiaries of ddooo— the alleged beneficiaries of those standards. and we are not odoodnd— those standards. and we are not odoodnd rdo— those standards. and we are not closing the academic skills gap. it closing the academic skills gap. d doo— closing the academic skills gap. d doo nod— closing the academic skills gap. d doo nod dono— closing the academic skills gap. it has not gone away . we have to it has not gone away. we have to odop— it has not gone away. we have to orop nodnd— it has not gone away. we have to stop making excuses , choices for stop making excuses, choices for poopdo— stop making excuses, choices for poopdo ond— stop making excuses, choices for poopdo ond ooy— stop making excuses, choices for people and say everyone dodi odoudd— people and say everyone dodi odoudd nood— people and say everyone dodi should meet the— people and say everyone dodi should meet the same standard . i should meet the same standard. i doopodr— should meet the same standard. i doopodr wdon— should meet the same standard. i doopodrwdon r— should meet the same standard. i despair when i hear— should meet the same standard. i despair when i hear black doodoro— despair when i hear black leaders claim _ despair when i hear black leaders claim again and again dowor— leaders claim again and again dowor rdo— leaders claim again and again lower the standards on our dodod— lower the standards on our dododd .— lower the standards on our behalf . what— lower the standards on our behalf . what they should be behalf. what they should be ooydnd— behalf. what they should be ooydnd do— behalf. what they should be saying to their— behalf. what they should be saying to their communities is put dn— saying to their communities is put dn rdo— saying to their communities is put in the effort— saying to their communities is put in the effort and meet and door— put in the effort and meet and door rdo— put in the effort and meet and beat the standards . c t beat the standards. it shocks me . vou— beat the standards. it shocks me , you know, from following you for many years now to see see the amount of personal threats and aggravation that you have aimed at yourself when you try and speak on college campuses and speak on college campuses and yet at the same time, joe

biden can sit and say they're going to lock you up in chains. and calls people my boy and and he calls people my boy and stuff that, which to me , as stuff like that, which to me, as a standard, understandable of language, is open racism . um, language, is open racism. um, he's he's spoken in very racist ways. the clarence thomas heanngs ways. the clarence thomas hearings and all of this stuff. is there an element of they are the exact thing that they accuse us of . well, the exact thing that they accuse us of. well, i'm not i'm not going— us of. well, i'm not i'm not dodnd do— us of. well, i'm not i'm not dodnd do uo— us of. well, i'm not i'm not going to use the— well, i'm not i'm not going to use the racist term dooouo— going to use the racist term dooouo d— going to use the racist term because it is— going to use the racist term because it is so— going to use the racist term because it is so overused. i woudd— because it is so overused. i woudd duod— because it is so overused. i woudd tuor ooy— because it is so overused. i would just say that their poddodoo— would just say that their policies stink.- would just say that their policies stink. i would say he's duod— policies stink. i would say he's much more frequent in his ooouoodon— much more frequent in his accusation against whites. yeah he accusation against whites. yeah do dodo— accusation against whites. yeah do nodo noy— accusation against whites. yeah he made may have made some slip of he made may have made some slip or do— he made may have made some slip of ddo donouo— he made may have made some slip of the tongue, but— he made may have made some slip of the tongue, but basically joe dddon— of the tongue, but basically joe biden traffics_ of the tongue, but basically joe biden traffics in— of the tongue, but basically joe biden traffics in anti—white rdodordo— biden traffics in anti—white rhetoric and _ biden traffics in anti—white rhetoric and american whites are so rhetoric and american whites are oo un wddo— rhetoric and american whites are so un white supremacy racist ddod— so un white supremacy racist ddod ddoy— so un white supremacy racist rdor rdoy duod— so un white supremacy racist that they just take it. they dow— that they just take it. they d— that they just take it. they d oo— that they just take it. they view it as completely natural ond— view it as completely natural ond nonnod — view it as completely natural and normal. that— view it as completely natural and normal. that white now is an opddod— and normal. that white now is an opddod. wo— and normal. that white now is an opddor. duo oro— and normal. that white now is an epithet. we are destroying woodorn— epithet. we are destroying western civilisation in this civilisation _ western civilisation in this civilisation should not go oound— civilisation should not go around apologising, saying it doo— around apologising, saying it doo dono— around apologising, saying it has done nothing worse than the

rest has done nothing worse than the rood od— has done nothing worse than the rood or do— has done nothing worse than the rest of the world's— has done nothing worse than the rest of the world's cultures. add— rest of the world's cultures. add r-dd— rest of the world's cultures. add r-dd do — rest of the world's cultures. all i'll be ready— rest of the world's cultures. all i'll be ready to pay reparations— all i'll be ready to pay reparations in- all i'll be ready to pay reparations in the united odooo.— reparations in the united states. lawrence when i see uddordo— states. lawrence when i see nigeria offering— states. lawrence when i see nigeria offering reparations for pordodpodon— nigeria offering reparations for participation in— nigeria offering reparations for participation in the transatlantic slave trade or upon— transatlantic slave trade or ropon or— transatlantic slave trade or japan or china— transatlantic slave trade or japan or china for their opprooodon— japan or china for their oppression of- japan or china for their oppression of their minoritized oonnunddoo— oppression of their minoritized oonnunddoo .— oppression of their minoritized communities , over the years, communities, over the years, ondy— communities, over the years, ondy rdo— communities, over the years, ondy rdo wood— communities, over the years, only the west ,_ communities, over the years, only the west , only the west only the west, only the west museums. and— only the west, only the west museums. and this is happening in museums. and this is happening dn drdodn— museums. and this is happening dn drdodn oo— museums. and this is happening in britain as well.— museums. and this is happening in britain as well. at tate rdodorn— in britain as well. at tate rrodorn do— in britain as well. at tate modern is going around slapping dddnd— modern is going around slapping rddnd rrdddor— modern is going around slapping thing trigger warning labels on od— thing trigger warning labels on or do— thing trigger warning labels on some of the greatest art that doo— some of the greatest art that doo oor— some of the greatest art that has ever been— some of the greatest art that has ever been created and roooddnd— has ever been created and teaching young— has ever been created and teaching young people to see dooudy— teaching young people to see beauty through— teaching young people to see beauty through the lens of roodod— beauty through the lens of racial grievance that is not going— racial grievance that is not dodnd on— racial grievance that is not dodnd on dn— racial grievance that is not going on in other civilised oceans. and— going on in other civilised oceans. and the west is not dodnd— oceans. and the west is not dodnd ddod— oceans. and the west is not done do do— oceans. and the west is not doing that to other civilisations. the metropolitan rduou— civilisations. the metropolitan rduou od— civilisations. the metropolitan museum of art— civilisations. the metropolitan museum of art is— civilisations. the metropolitan museum of art is trying to oonood— museum of art is trying to oonood do— museum of art is trying to cancel its dutch baroque masters oouoodon— cancel its dutch baroque masters ooddoodon .— cancel its dutch baroque masters collection . meanwhile, it is collection. meanwhile, it is ponroydnd— collection. meanwhile, it is portraying african tribal art wddd — portraying african tribal art wddd udor— portraying african tribal art with utter respect and not nodnd— with utter respect and not nodnd rdo— with utter respect and not noting the type of tribal donooddo — noting the type of tribal genocide that lays behind a lot of genocide that lays behind a lot or ddooo— genocide that lays behind a lot of these african _ genocide that lays behind a lot of these african pieces. we are ondy— of these african pieces. we are only cancelling— of these african pieces. we are only cancelling our own culture.

it only cancelling our own culture. d do— only cancelling our own culture. d do o— only cancelling our own culture. it is a completely— only cancelling our own culture. it is a completely suicidal dnodnod— it is a completely suicidal instinct that— it is a completely suicidal instinct that defies understanding . instinct that defies- understanding . that's do instinct that defies— understanding . that's do you understanding. that's do you think it might be, you know , think it might be, you know, each civilisation must come to an end and we've reached this level of affluence and leisure and that we're able to look back at ourselves just with hatred of what we've done without any pride and optimism for the future that we are going to have to deconstruct. is what you to deconstruct. is that what you feel happen ? and that this to deconstruct. is that what you feel wokelappen ? and that this to deconstruct. is that what you feel woke western and that this to deconstruct. is that what you feel woke western hating at this this woke western hating civilisation agenda will will have to stream through us before we can get back on track . not if we can get back on track. not if i can help it. i love— we can get back on track. not if i can help it. i love the- t“ qc; t trtr“ t not if i can help it. i love the works of i can help it. i love the works or droodorn— i can help it. i love the works of western civilisation. i live for classical— of western civilisation. i live for classical music, i live for drddod— for classical music, i live for british literature. _ for classical music, i live for british literature. we cannot go down— british literature. we cannot go down wddoud— british literature. we cannot go down without a— british literature. we cannot go down without a fight . and. but down without a fight. and. but your— down without a fight. and. but your wow— down without a fight. and. but your view, lawrence , is widely your view, lawrence, is widely odorod. — your view, lawrence, is widely odorod. r— your view, lawrence, is widely shared. i talked— your view, lawrence, is widely shared. i talked to an oncologist— shared. i talked to an oncologist for my latest book ond— oncologist for my latest book ond. and— oncologist for my latest book ond. and r— oncologist for my latest book and. and i said— oncologist for my latest book and. and i said ,_ oncologist for my latest book and. and i said , why aren't you and. and i said, why aren't you guys— and. and i said, why aren't you duyo oronddnd— and. and i said, why aren't you duyo oronddnd up— and. and i said, why aren't you guys standing up in defending noddodno— guys standing up in defending medicine against the specious, propoororouo— medicine against the specious, preposterous charge that noddodno— preposterous charge that medicine is— preposterous charge that medicine is racist? and he said, we medicine is racist? and he said, wo nood— medicine is racist? and he said, we need our jobs.—

medicine is racist? and he said, we need our jobs. we want our todo. — we need our jobs. we want our todo. d— we need our jobs. we want our todo. d wo— we need our jobs. we want our jobs. if we speak— we need our jobs. we want our jobs. if we speak the truth, we wddd— jobs. if we speak the truth, we wddd do — jobs. if we speak the truth, we will be destroyed— jobs. if we speak the truth, we will be destroyed the entire oyodon — will be destroyed the entire oyoron doo— will be destroyed the entire system has got— will be destroyed the entire system has got it will collapse in system has got it will collapse dn so— system has got it will collapse dn so yoo — system has got it will collapse in 50 years. and— system has got it will collapse in 50 years. and then it needs to in 50 years. and then it needs do do— in 50 years. and then it needs do do rodudd— in 50 years. and then it needs to be rebuilt from _ in 50 years. and then it needs to be rebuilt from the ground up . vou— to be rebuilt from the ground up . you know.— to be rebuilt from the ground up . you know, what's— to be rebuilt from the ground up . you know, what's so sickening odoud— . you know, what's so sickening odour dddo— . you know, what's so sickening odour dddo .— . you know, what's so sickening about this , lawrence, is the about this, lawrence, is the poopdo— about this, lawrence, is the poopdo rdod— about this, lawrence, is the people that are— about this, lawrence, is the people that are going around dodddnd— people that are going around dodddnd rdooo— people that are going around lodging these these idiotic oonpdodndo— lodging these these idiotic complaints about western civilisation _ complaints about western civilisation benefit from it owory— civilisation benefit from it owory odnddo— civilisation benefit from it every single day, whether it's rooordo— every single day, whether it's rooordo do— every single day, whether it's regards to medical science , regards to medical science, roodnodody— regards to medical science, roodnodody or— regards to medical science, technology or the very concepts of technology or the very concepts or oouoddy— technology or the very concepts or oouoddy ond— technology or the very concepts of equality and tolerance that ddoy— of equality and tolerance that rdoy purport— of equality and tolerance that rdoy purpon do— of equality and tolerance that they purport to be fighting in they purport to be fighting in ddo nono— they purport to be fighting in ddo od— they purport to be fighting in the name of. of— they purport to be fighting in the name of. of course, they are oduodnd— the name of. of course, they are oduodnd ddooo— the name of. of course, they are abusing those concepts . but abusing those concepts. but droodorn— abusing those concepts. but western civilisation has given the western civilisation has given ddo ondro— western civilisation has given the entire human motty freedom don— the entire human motty freedom don ooouodon— the entire human motty freedom from squalor, from _ the entire human motty freedom from squalor, from want and from oduoo— from squalor, from want and from oduoo od— from squalor, from want and from oduoo od powor— from squalor, from want and from oduoo or powor .— from squalor, from want and from abuse of power . or— from squalor, from want and from abuse of power. or is there oonodddnd— abuse of power. or is there something to— abuse of power. or is there something to be said for, you know.— something to be said for, you know, obviously— something to be said for, you know, obviously there are a nuddudo— know, obviously there are a multitude of— know, obviously there are a multitude of different opprooodoo- multitude of different approaches to dealing with this oonpdodo— approaches to dealing with this complete cultural— approaches to dealing with this complete cultural attack. i saw dddo— complete cultural attack. i saw dddo norndnd— complete cultural attack. i saw this morning that— complete cultural attack. i saw this morning that marjorie taylor greene said that the use of the word white supremacy , the of the word white supremacy, the slur white supremacist, was

analogous to the use of the n word. it had the same amount of power, and she was immediately jumped there something to jumped on. is there something to be what pointed be said for what she she pointed out ? absolutely. it is . out there? absolutely. it is. and— out there? absolutely. it is. and dud— out there? absolutely. it is. and but people— out there? absolutely. it is. and but people get- “rttrt7’ absolutely. it is. and but people get away with it . and— and but people get away with it . and do— and but people get away with it .and do do.— and but people get away with it . and this is, again, what's oory— . and this is, again, what's wory odd— . and this is, again, what's very odd about— . and this is, again, what's very odd about whites in western odwddoodon. — very odd about whites in western civilisation. they— very odd about whites in western civilisation. they are self oonoodddnd.— civilisation. they are self cancelling. they do not have any dnd— cancelling. they do not have any dnd od— cancelling. they do not have any kind of desire— cancelling. they do not have any kind of desire to— cancelling. they do not have any kind of desire to defend themselves— kind of desire to defend themselves against phoney odordoo— themselves against phoney odordoo .— themselves against phoney charges , charges. so, yes , i charges, charges. so, yes, i dddnd— charges, charges. so, yes, i dddnd d— charges, charges. so, yes, i think it should— charges, charges. so, yes, i think it should be stigmatised , think it should be stigmatised, but think it should be stigmatised, dud dud— think it should be stigmatised, dud dud rdo— think it should be stigmatised, but but the elites get away with it. but but the elites get away with do you— but but the elites get away with do you know.— but but the elites get away with it. you know, it's— but but the elites get away with it. you know, it's hilarious. in rdo— it. you know, it's hilarious. in ddo uddod— it. you know, it's hilarious. in the united states, even conservatives- the united states, even conservatives say , oh, joe biden conservatives say, oh, joe biden o unddor— conservatives say, oh, joe biden o unddor .— conservatives say, oh, joe biden was a unifier. no,— conservatives say, oh, joe biden was a unifier. no, he has been uodnd— was a unifier. no, he has been uodnd dddo— was a unifier. no, he has been using this anti—white rhetoric dunno— using this anti—white rhetoric dunno rdo— using this anti—white rhetoric during the presidential campaign . in during the presidential campaign . do do— during the presidential campaign . in his inaugural— during the presidential campaign . in his inaugural speech . and . in his inaugural speech. and it's . in his inaugural speech. and do duod— . in his inaugural speech. and do tuod d— . in his inaugural speech. and do tuor d duod— . in his inaugural speech. and it's just it just rolls off our doodo— it's just it just rolls off our backs because— it's just it just rolls off our backs because we feel, yeah. rdod— backs because we feel, yeah. rdod wo — backs because we feel, yeah. that we somehow deserve it. no, we that we somehow deserve it. no, wo don-d.— that we somehow deserve it. no, we don't. nobody— that we somehow deserve it. no, we don't. nobody living today dooowo— we don't. nobody living today dooowo do— we don't. nobody living today deserve to be— we don't. nobody living today deserve to be accused of the no— deserve to be accused of the sins committed— deserve to be accused of the sins committed 200 years ago. they— sins committed 200 years ago. rdoy wodo— sins committed 200 years ago. ddoy rood— sins committed 200 years ago. they were real sins. they were

ddoy— they were real sins. they were ddoy wodo— they were real sins. they were they were particularly offensive in they were particularly offensive dn ddo — they were particularly offensive in the united— they were particularly offensive in the united states context dooouo— in the united states context dooouo ddo— in the united states context because the united states does go because the united states does do oound— because the united states does do oound .— because the united states does do oound . you— because the united states does go around , you know, pretending go around, you know, pretending ddod— go around, you know, pretending ddod d— go around, you know, pretending ddod d do— go around, you know, pretending that it is unique— go around, you know, pretending that it is unique among nations in that it is unique among nations dn do— that it is unique among nations dn do roopood— that it is unique among nations in its respect for— that it is unique among nations in its respect for equality and opponundy— in its respect for equality and oppodundy .— in its respect for equality and opportunity - but— in its respect for equality and opportunity . but but that opportunity. but but that odonood— opportunity. but but that odondod. ddo— opportunity. but but that changed. we have changed roddooddy. — changed. we have changed radically. and— changed. we have changed radically. and our deprivation of radically. and our deprivation or opponundy— radically. and our deprivation of opportunity to blacks, to rnddono— of opportunity to blacks, to rnddono do— of opportunity to blacks, to indians is were— of opportunity to blacks, to indians is were no worse. and duod— indians is were no worse. and nuod dodon— indians is were no worse. and much better than— indians is were no worse. and much better than what the rest of much better than what the rest or do— much better than what the rest or ddo wodd— much better than what the rest of the world has— much better than what the rest of the world has always engaged in. of the world has always engaged dn. and— of the world has always engaged dn. and dodo— of the world has always engaged in. and let's just— of the world has always engaged in. and let's just try holding a ddood— in. and let's just try holding a ddood prddo— in. and let's just try holding a black pride or— in. and let's just try holding a black pride or a— in. and let's just try holding a black pride or a trans pride norod— black pride or a trans pride norod dn— black pride or a trans pride march in uganda today and see now— march in uganda today and see dow dor— march in uganda today and see dow for you— march in uganda today and see dow for you dod— march in uganda today and see how far you get . _ march in uganda today and see how far you get . ' crttyr how far you get. absolutely. would you say that race is race trumping merit? an existential threat to the harmony of america? could you just tell us a bit about about the book and what you're trying to tell us all? yes, it is an existential threat because if we continue tearing down our standards of scientific progress right now, our our science funding agencies

in the federal government are handing out science research grants, not on the basis of scientific accomplished talent, but on the basis of race and sex. meanwhile , china is sex. meanwhile, china is fanatically_ ~efrrt;d< meanwhile, china is fanatically promoting meritocracy- fanatically promoting meritocracy . it is taking its meritocracy. it is taking its nood— meritocracy. it is taking its noor dddod— meritocracy. it is taking its most gifted students, mathematically gifted students, and mathematically gifted students, ondddrowdnd— mathematically gifted students, and throwing everything it's got at and throwing everything it's got or don.— and throwing everything it's got or ddon. rn— and throwing everything it's got at them. in the— and throwing everything it's got at them. in the united states , at them. in the united states, we are tearing— at them. in the united states, we are tearing down gifted and dodondod— we are tearing down gifted and talented programs that offer accelerated _ talented programs that offer accelerated math instruction to our accelerated math instruction to nood— accelerated math instruction to our most gifted— accelerated math instruction to our most gifted math students. wodo— our most gifted math students. wodo ooydnd— our most gifted math students. wodo ooydnd wo— our most gifted math students. we're saying we all have to be ooouod— we're saying we all have to be oduod. ond— we're saying we all have to be equal, and that— we're saying we all have to be equal, and that is— we're saying we all have to be equal, and that is equally bad. and— equal, and that is equally bad. and you-ro— equal, and that is equally bad. and youro nod— equal, and that is equally bad. and you're not allowed if you're if and you're not allowed if you're d you-ro— and you're not allowed if you're if you're fantastically talented, _ if you're fantastically talented, you're not allowed to odudy— talented, you're not allowed to odudy oon— talented, you're not allowed to orudy .— talented, you're not allowed to orudy . you— talented, you're not allowed to study even , you know, study even, you know, precalculus - study even, you know, precalculus until late in high oonood— precalculus until late in high school because— precalculus until late in high school because we're hoping that underrepresent— school because we're hoping that underrepresent gifted groups wdd— underrepresent gifted groups wddd oodod— underrepresent gifted groups will catch up.— underrepresent gifted groups will catch up. well, they don't . and— will catch up. well, they don't . and meanwhile,— will catch up. well, they don't . and meanwhile, that talented odudond— . and meanwhile, that talented odudond do— . and meanwhile, that talented student is being— . and meanwhile, that talented student is being held back and prododdy— student is being held back and prododdy dorod— student is being held back and probably bored to tears in his oonood— probably bored to tears in his oodood .— probably bored to tears in his oodood . ddo— probably bored to tears in his school . we are— probably bored to tears in his school . we are destroying school. we are destroying a achievement— school. we are destroying a achievement and excellence in the achievement and excellence in ddo nono— achievement and excellence in ddo od— achievement and excellence in

the name of fighting a phantom, a the name of fighting a phantom, o pdondoon— the name of fighting a phantom, o pdondoon .— the name of fighting a phantom, a phantasm . um.— the name of fighting a phantom, a phantasm . um. this is not a phantasm. um. this is not a oyorondooddy— a phantasm. um. this is not a systemically racist— a phantasm. um. this is not a systemically racist society. so i systemically racist society. so r oddrooo— systemically racist society. so i address science.— systemically racist society. so i address science. i address noddodno— i address science. i address noddodno dn— i address science. i address medicine in, i— i address science. i address medicine in, i address the arts, i medicine in, i address the arts, r oddrooo— medicine in, i address the arts, i address what's— medicine in, i address the arts, i address what's happening in odooodood— i address what's happening in classical music— i address what's happening in classical music and music , arms classical music and music, arms in classical music and music, arms dn donoo— classical music and music, arms dn donoo ond— classical music and music, arms in dance and theatre , all of in dance and theatre, all of wddod— in dance and theatre, all of wddod oro— in dance and theatre, all of which are being— in dance and theatre, all of which are being torn down by pdonoy— which are being torn down by pdonoy odordoo— which are being torn down by phoney charges of racism . and i phoney charges of racism. and i ond— phoney charges of racism. and i ond r— phoney charges of racism. and i ond r oxpdodn— phoney charges of racism. and i and i explain what's going on in law enforcement— and i explain what's going on in law enforcement in— and i explain what's going on in law enforcement in the united sdodoo— law enforcement in the united sdodoo on— law enforcement in the united states since the— law enforcement in the united states since the george floyd race, psychosis,— states since the george floyd race, psychosis, the mass ooddoodwo— race, psychosis, the mass collective nervous breakdown on the collective nervous breakdown on ddo pod— collective nervous breakdown on ddo pod od— collective nervous breakdown on the part of america's elites, wdono— the part of america's elites, wdoro wo— the part of america's elites, where we are— the part of america's elites, where we are no— the part of america's elites, where we are no longer enforcing the where we are no longer enforcing ddo odnddod— where we are no longer enforcing the criminal law— where we are no longer enforcing the criminal law because it has a the criminal law because it has o ddoporodo— the criminal law because it has a disparate impact— the criminal law because it has a disparate impact on black ordndnodo— a disparate impact on black criminals. heather macdonald it's criminals. heather macdonald d-o dood— criminals. heather macdonald it's been absolutely fascinating dodddnd— it's been absolutely fascinating dodddnd do— it's been absolutely fascinating rodddnd do you. — it's been absolutely fascinating talking to you. ”q talking to you. i'm very sorry to cut you off . i have to leave. to cut you off. i have to leave. heather macdonald, author of when trumps merit , you when race trumps merit, you would wise to heed would be wise to heed her warnings . would be wise to heed her warnings. thank you to panel warnings. thank you to my panel and guests for joining warnings. thank you to my panel and guests forjoining me and my guests forjoining me tonight. coming up is mark tonight. coming up next is mark dolan. mark dolan. what's on the show? mark lawrence cracker, me lawrence? what a cracker, let me tell lawrence? what a cracker, let me rod—doouoo— lawrence? what a cracker, let me tell-discuss whether. tell you. we'll discuss whether the tell you. we'll discuss whether ddo oooo— tell you. we'll discuss whether ddo dor— tell you. we'll discuss whether the case for-zero- the case for net zero is orundddnd. — the case for net zero is. crumbling. _obesity the case for net zero is- crumbling.-0besity be crumbling. should obesity be enemee— crumbling. should obesity be enamea na— crumbling. should obesity be renamed to preserve people's neenneee— renamed to preserve people's feelings? and—

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spnng temperatures to rise and a fine spring day is expected across england and wales. spring day is expected across england and wales . generally, england and wales. generally, light winds, sunny spells and feeling warm in the sunshine . feeling warm in the sunshine. some brightness also across scotland and northern ireland in between a few outbreaks of light rain , temperatures potentially rain, temperatures potentially reaching 20 celsius around the murray coast. otherwise mid to high teens. but the most extensive sunshine across england and wales will bring highs of 22 degrees from highs of 22 degrees away from the north sea coast. that is where stay a bit cooler where it will stay a bit cooler there and into saturday afternoon and evening . we'll see afternoon and evening. we'll see low cloud across the west of scotland become more extensive across scotland and northern ireland, bringing some persistent spells of rain , some persistent spells of rain, some heavy bursts at first, but easing by the end of the night. that'll keep things mild in the north. further south across north. but further south across england clear skies england and wales, clear skies and again, temperatures dipping to 3 celsius. a cool start to 3 or 4 celsius. a cool start to 3 or 4 celsius. a cool start to sunday, but a repeat performance after that cool starts while temperatures soon rise and plenty of warm, sunny spells will break out . there'll spells will break out. there'll be patchy cloud places , be some patchy cloud in places, particularly around the north sea and into central sea coast and into central southern , but otherwise

southern england, but otherwise plenty of fine weather for england and wales. cloudier for scotland and northern ireland. rain easing later.

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