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course, we wouldn't be anywhere without harry and meghan, would we.7 are without harry and meghan, would we? are receiving backlash we? they are receiving backlash from a us media agency over their demands hand over their demands to hand over images taken during their near—catastrophic car chase earlier this week. we'll be joined by royal commentator jennie bond for the latest on that one. and we'll be live in five as thousands of visitors have flocked to the annual show. our reporter tobey maguire will have the latest . but first, it's have the latest. but first, it's the news headlines with the very lovely bethany elsey elsie . lovely bethany elsey elsie. dolan. thank you. good afternoon . here-e— dolan. thank you. good afternoon . here-e your— dolan. thank you. good afternoon . here's your latest— i" thank you. good afternoon . here's your latest headlines from— . here's your latest headlines from the— . here's your latest headlines from the ee— . here's your latest headlines from the gb news room at midday. ukraine-e— from the gb news room at midday. ukraine's president— from the gb news room at midday. ukraine's president has arrived in japan— ukraine's president has arrived in japan fer— ukraine's president has arrived in japan for talks— ukraine's president has arrived in japan for talks with world leaders— in japan for talks with world leaders ee— in japan for talks with world leaders at the— in japan for talks with world leaders at the g.— in japan for talks with world leaders at the g. seven summit. vteeimir— leaders at the g. seven summit. vladimir zelenskyy— leaders at the g. seven summit. vladimir zelenskyy has also been welcomed— vladimir zelenskyy has also been welcomed by— vladimir zelenskyy has also been welcomed by the _ vladimir zelenskyy has also been welcomed by the prime minister, riem— welcomed by the prime minister, we seek,— welcomed by the prime minister, rishi sunak, who— welcomed by the prime minister, rishi sunak, who tweeted after the teuhteh— rishi sunak, who tweeted after the reunion saying, rishi sunak, who tweeted after the reunion saying , ukraine, the reunion saying, ukraine, we're not going— the reunion saying, ukraine, we're not going anywhere. it's as the— we're not going anywhere. it's as the the— we're not going anywhere. it's as the white house approved ptehe— as the white house approved

ptehe te— as the white house approved plans to provide— as the white house approved plans to provide f—16 fighter jets— plans to provide f—16 fighter jets te— plans to provide f—16 fighter jets to te— plans to provide f—16 fighter jets to to ukraine and train its pttete. — jets to to ukraine and train its pilots. president— jets to to ukraine and train its pilots. president zelenskyy has tepeetetty— pilots. president zelenskyy has repeatedly lobbied his western etttee— repeatedly lobbied his western etttee tet— repeatedly lobbied his western allies for air— repeatedly lobbied his western allies for air support and hated— allies for air support and hailed the— allies for air support and hailed the move as historic , hailed the move as historic, saving— hailed the move as historic, eeythg tt— hailed the move as historic, eeythg tt wttt— hailed the move as historic, saying it will greatly enhance uttethe-e— saying it will greatly enhance ukraine's army— saying it will greatly enhance ukraine's army in the sky. white house— ukraine's army in the sky. white house national— ukraine's army in the sky. white house national security adviser jake— house national security adviser jake shtttveh— house national security adviser jake sullivan said— house national security adviser jake sullivan said the plans wttt— jake sullivan said the plans wttt tott— jake sullivan said the plans will roll out— jake sullivan said the plans will roll out over the coming months— will roll out over the coming months . — will roll out over the coming months . we— will roll out over the coming months. we have- will roll out over the coming months . �*ftt�*tzi; cc: tiietzin: months. we have delivered what we promised . we have given we promised. we have given ukraine what it needs based on close consultations between our military and theirs. close consultations between our military and theirs . and now we military and theirs. and now we have turned to discussions about improving the ukrainian air force as part of our long term commitment to ukraine's self—defence. so as the training unfolds in the coming months, we will work with our allies to determine when planes will be delivered, who will be delivering them, and how many . delivering them, and how many. labour claims there's been a big jump labour claims there's been a big jump in the number of people dying in a&e amid record waiting times. nhs trusts figures show theh—

times. nhs trusts figures show more than 23,000— c nhs trusts figures show more than 23,000 people died in emergency— more than 23,000 people died in emergency department last year. that-e— emergency department last year. that-e me— emergency department last year. that's 22% higher— emergency department last year. that's 22% higher than the year tethe— that's 22% higher than the year tetete .— that's 22% higher than the year tetete . the— that's 22% higher than the year before . the government says it's before. the government says it's tethehhe— before. the government says it's tettvetthe e— before. the government says it's delivering a record— before. the government says it's delivering a record number of teete— delivering a record number of tests .— delivering a record number of tests , speeding— delivering a record number of tests , speeding up discharges tests, speeding up discharges ent— tests, speeding up discharges and euttthe— tests, speeding up discharges and cutting waiting lists . and cutting waiting lists. ceuhtthe— and cutting waiting lists. ceuhtthe te— and cutting waiting lists. counting is continuing in the heat— counting is continuing in the local elections— counting is continuing in the local elections in northern heteht. — local elections in northern ireland. sinn— local elections in northern ireland. sinn fein has made streng— ireland. sinn fein has made strong gathe— ireland. sinn fein has made strong gains and is on course to hee— strong gains and is on course to heee the— strong gains and is on course to become the largest— strong gains and is on course to become the largest party in teeth— become the largest party in local government, with 116 councillors— local government, with 116 councillors elected. the dup ehmehtty— councillors elected. the dup currently has— councillors elected. the dup currently has 97— councillors elected. the dup currently has 97 and the atttemee— currently has 97 and the alliance party- currently has 97 and the alliance party has 44. it's the thet— alliance party has 44. it's the first electoral— alliance party has 44. it's the first electoral test— alliance party has 44. it's the first electoral test for the themes— first electoral test for the parties since— first electoral test for the parties since last year's eeeemhty— parties since last year's assembly elections and takes hteee— assembly elections and takes eteee eeetmt— assembly elections and takes place against the backdrop of the stormont_ place against the backdrop of the stormont stalemate . the stormont stalemate. meanwhile, _ the stormont stalemate. meanwhile, northern ireland's heeettmemt— meanwhile, northern ireland's heeettmemt et— meanwhile, northern ireland's department of infrastructure eate— department of infrastructure eeye tt— department of infrastructure eeye tt met— department of infrastructure says it may need to turn off etteetttehte— says it may need to turn off streetlights due _ says it may need to turn off streetlights due to budget pressures . several departments, pressures. several departments, methtthe— pressures. several departments, methtthethe— pressures. several departments, including the education authehty— including the education authority and the department of teeth.— authority and the department of teeth. ee— authority and the department of health, are facing— authority and the department of health, are facing shortfalls of hundreds— health, are facing shortfalls of hundreds et— health, are facing shortfalls of hundreds of millions of pounds as e resett— hundreds of millions of pounds as a result of— hundreds of millions of pounds as a result of the— hundreds of millions of pounds as a result of the dups ongoing heyeett—

as a result of the dups ongoing heyeett. the— as a result of the dups ongoing boycott. the northern ireland eeetetem— boycott. the northern ireland secretary, chris— boycott. the northern ireland secretary, chris heaton—harris , secretary, chris heaton—harris, hee— secretary, chris heaton—harris, hee metetet— secretary, chris heaton—harris, has insisted that— secretary, chris heaton—harris, has insisted that there's more them— has insisted that there's more them eheheh— has insisted that there's more than enough money in the budget to than enough money in the budget te htevtte— than enough money in the budget te etevtte eth— than enough money in the budget to provide all statutory eettteee— to provide all statutory eehteee .— to provide all statutory services . a— to provide all statutory services . a man has scaled the services. a man has scaled the hem— services. a man has scaled the hem et— services. a man has scaled the hem et the— services. a man has scaled the front of the bbc— services. a man has scaled the front of the bbc building in centre— front of the bbc building in central london— front of the bbc building in central london in protest eeetmt— central london in protest egemet e— central london in protest against a historic statue. the hee— against a historic statue. the man has been— against a historic statue. the man has been seen hammering at the theeeete— man has been seen hammering at the prospero and— man has been seen hammering at the prospero and ariel statue, whteh— the prospero and ariel statue, whteh hee— the prospero and ariel statue, which has been— the prospero and ariel statue, which has been on display since thee. — which has been on display since 1933. campaigners— which has been on display since 1933. campaigners have been eettthe— 1933. campaigners have been eettthe tet— 1933. campaigners have been calling for its— 1933. campaigners have been calling for its removal, as the eehthtet— calling for its removal, as the eehtptet the— calling for its removal, as the sculptor eric gill— calling for its removal, as the sculptor eric gill recalls attem— sculptor eric gill recalls added, sexually abusing his daughters— added, sexually abusing his daughters in— added, sexually abusing his daughters in his diaries. the metropolitan— daughters in his diaries. the metropolitan police have been on site metropolitan police have been on ette emce— metropolitan police have been on ette the— metropolitan police have been on site since the early— metropolitan police have been on site since the early hours of the— site since the early hours of the memtme— site since the early hours of this morning, but say it hasn't heem— this morning, but say it hasn't been possible— this morning, but say it hasn't been possible to— this morning, but say it hasn't been possible to safely detain the mm— been possible to safely detain the yet. — been possible to safely detain the yet. a— been possible to safely detain the man yet. a man from south tehteh— the man yet. a man from south temteh wttt— the man yet. a man from south london will appear— the man yet. a man from south london will appear in court heter— london will appear in court tetet ettet— london will appear in court later after police found what they— later after police found what they hetteve— later after police found what they believe is— later after police found what they believe is a— later after police found what they believe is a signific eeeem— they believe is a signific accent. specialist weapons factory— accent. specialist weapons teetett .— accent. specialist weapons teetett . the— accent. specialist weapons factory . the national crime factory. the national crime agency— factory. the national crime agehey etetme— factory. the national crime agency claims the industrial hhtt— agency claims the industrial wmt wee— agency claims the industrial unit was being— agency claims the industrial unit was being used to convert hteht— unit was being used to convert hteht firing— unit was being used to convert blank firing guns— unit was being used to convert blank firing guns into lethal weeeh— blank firing guns into lethal weapons using— blank firing guns into lethal weapons using 3d printed parts. they— weapons using 3d printed parts. they tethe— weapons using 3d printed parts. they found more— weapons using 3d printed parts. they found more than 100 rounds of they found more than 100 rounds et twe— they found more than 100 rounds

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news as it happens. now now. okay. we are going straight on to rishi sunak. he has met vladimir zelenskyy at the g7 summit in hiroshima after the ukrainian president closed in on obtaining the f—16 fighter jets . he wants to fight off russia. now in a recent tweet, zelenskyy said important meetings with partners and friends of ukraine secured motty and enhanced cooperation for our victory and peace will become closer. today hey, it's after senior us officials endorsed a plan to train ukrainian pilots to fly f—16 fighter jets and for european countries to provide them in a major military boost for kyiv. now, joining me to bnng for kyiv. now, joining me to bring us all up to date on this one is catherine forster , our one is catherine forster, our political reporter . catherine political reporter. catherine zelenskyy , as we know, we've zelenskyy, as we know, we've seen him fly in to hiroshima this morning. seen him fly in to hiroshima this morning . can you just bring this morning. can you just bring us up to date on on what is happening and what zelenskyy hopes to achieve by being there this weekend? yes. well this is

the second time that rishi sunak and vladimir zelenskyy have met this week because zelenskyy was in the uk on monday at chequers with rishi sunak and it was apparently arnie rishi sunak idea that zelenskyy should go to the g7 because of course when you meet people face to face, it's much better, much more effective , isn't it? and so this effective, isn't it? and so this is effective, isn't it? and so this te the— effective, isn't it? and so this is the surprise,— effective, isn't it? and so this is the surprise, if— effective, isn't it? and so this is the surprise, if you - tzi;�*"�*"t:i;tt.. . fl and so this is the surprise, if you like, of the— is the surprise, if you like, of the ewmmtt— is the surprise, if you like, of the summit that— is the surprise, if you like, of the summit that he has turned up . hee— the summit that he has turned up . he-e eheetw— the summit that he has turned up . he's already had— the summit that he has turned up . he's already had this victory hetete— . he's already had this victory hetete he— . he's already had this victory before he even— . he's already had this victory before he even arrived in that the— before he even arrived in that the umtet— before he even arrived in that the united states— before he even arrived in that the united states has had a very ehmht— the united states has had a very ehmpt ehemee— the united states has had a very abrupt change of— the united states has had a very abrupt change of heart regarding its abrupt change of heart regarding tte twee.— abrupt change of heart regarding its f—16s, their— abrupt change of heart regarding its f—16s, their american made memes.— its f—16s, their american made etehee. thew— its f—16s, their american made planes. they have— its f—16s, their american made planes. they have to give hetmteeteh— planes. they have to give permission for— planes. they have to give permission for anyone to give them — permission for anyone to give them te— permission for anyone to give them to ukraine.— permission for anyone to give them to ukraine. now, they've tene— them to ukraine. now, they've tehe thet— them to ukraine. now, they've tehe thet .— them to ukraine. now, they've done that , but— them to ukraine. now, they've done that , but having previously done that, but having previously heem— done that, but having previously heem wett— done that, but having previously been very unsure— done that, but having previously been very unsure about it, i met— been very unsure about it, i think because— been very unsure about it, i think because partly because of heeethte— think because partly because of possible risks— think because partly because of possible risks of— think because partly because of possible risks of potential escalation. _ possible risks of potential escalation. but- possible risks of potential escalation. but biden has now set.— escalation. but biden has now set. etew— escalation. but biden has now said, okay, other— escalation. but biden has now said, okay, other countries, for exempte— said, okay, other countries, for exemhte .— said, okay, other countries, for example . the— said, okay, other countries, for example , the netherlands, got 24

example, the netherlands, got 24 of example, the netherlands, got 24 et these— example, the netherlands, got 24 et theee t—tee— example, the netherlands, got 24 of these f—16sthat_ example, the netherlands, got 24 of these f—16s that are coming. thew-te— of these f—16s that are coming. thev're twe— of these f—16s that are coming. they're the te— of these f—16s that are coming. they're due to upgrade them to the te— they're due to upgrade them to the te the— they're due to upgrade them to the to the f—35._ they're due to upgrade them to the to the f—35. so they will petehttetw— the to the f—35. so they will potentially give _ the to the f—35. so they will potentially give them and also the themes;— potentially give them and also the training of— potentially give them and also the training of ukrainian pilots to the training of ukrainian pilots te tw— the training of ukrainian pilots te ttw these— the training of ukrainian pilots to fly these planes, which will tete — to fly these planes, which will tete me— to fly these planes, which will take some time.— to fly these planes, which will take some time. so this will tete— take some time. so this will tete e— take some time. so this will tete e tew— take some time. so this will take a few months, but zelenskyy says— take a few months, but zelenskyy eewe thet— take a few months, but zelenskyy says that these _ take a few months, but zelenskyy says that these planes are 4 to 5 says that these planes are 4 to s ttmee— says that these planes are 4 to s ttmee me— says that these planes are 4 to 5 times more effective than the cement— 5 times more effective than the current soviet— 5 times more effective than the current soviet era _ 5 times more effective than the current soviet era jets that they— current soviet era jets that they hewe. — current soviet era jets that they have. some of those have heem— they have. some of those have heem eweettet— they have. some of those have been supplied by— they have. some of those have been supplied by poland and stewette— been supplied by poland and stewette .— been supplied by poland and slovakia . so— been supplied by poland and slovakia . so i— been supplied by poland and slovakia . so i guess the hope is slovakia. so i guess the hope is thet— slovakia. so i guess the hope is thet hewhe— slovakia. so i guess the hope is that having these— slovakia. so i guess the hope is that having these planes will meet— that having these planes will meet up— that having these planes will speed up ukraine's potential wetew— speed up ukraine's potential wetew th— speed up ukraine's potential victory in this— speed up ukraine's potential victory in this war. and that hewhe— victory in this war. and that having zelenskyy physically be there— having zelenskyy physically be there eehte— having zelenskyy physically be there sends a— having zelenskyy physically be there sends a message farage to theme— there sends a message farage to theme wette— there sends a message farage to pierre martin and— there sends a message farage to pierre martin and also the fact thet.— pierre martin and also the fact thet. et— pierre martin and also the fact that, of course,— pierre martin and also the fact that, of course, it's not just the— that, of course, it's not just the et— that, of course, it's not just the g7 countries.- that, of course, it's not just the g7 countries. they're the teeeheee— the g7 countries. they're the japanese prime— the g7 countries. they're the japanese prime minister invited emethet— japanese prime minister invited emethet eteht— japanese prime minister invited another eight countries along, metwtthe— another eight countries along, including india,— another eight countries along, including india, including hteztt— including india, including hteztt .— including india, including brazil , all— including india, including brazil, all countries that have met— brazil, all countries that have met heem— brazil, all countries that have not been supportive of ukraine. in not been supportive of ukraine. th teet— not been supportive of ukraine. th teet. th— not been supportive of ukraine.

in fact, in india's— not been supportive of ukraine. in fact, in india's case, thtte-e— in fact, in india's case, india's bought huge amounts of gas india's bought huge amounts of eee eme— india's bought huge amounts of gee eht eth— india's bought huge amounts of gas and oil during this war heee— gas and oil during this war because putin— gas and oil during this war because putin needed to find emethet— because putin needed to find another market— because putin needed to find another market when europe you thew.— another market when europe you knew thet — another market when europe you knew thet te— another market when europe you know, tried to try— another market when europe you know, tried to try to use less eme— know, tried to try to use less eht ee— know, tried to try to use less eht ee tt— know, tried to try to use less and so it will— know, tried to try to use less and so it will be— know, tried to try to use less and so it will be very interesting- and so it will be very interesting to see when zetehetw— interesting to see when zelenskyy comes in contact with theee— zelenskyy comes in contact with theee teetete— zelenskyy comes in contact with these leaders whether he will be ehte — these leaders whether he will be ehte te — these leaders whether he will be ehte te wh— these leaders whether he will be able to win them— these leaders whether he will be able to win them round , because able to win them round, because etthewgh— able to win them round, because although there— able to win them round, because although there is— able to win them round, because although there is this sort of whttet— although there is this sort of united front— although there is this sort of united front from nato countries , by— united front from nato countries . hw eht— united front from nato countries . by end hege— united front from nato countries , by and large, the— united front from nato countries , by and large, the global seeth— , by and large, the global south, some— , by and large, the global south, some of- , by and large, the global south, some of these developing eewhtee— south, some of these developing eewhtee .— south, some of these developing countries , increasingly countries, increasingly tmgehemt— countries, increasingly important, have been much more eett— important, have been much more eett et— important, have been much more eett et meme— important, have been much more sort of unsure more— important, have been much more sort of unsure more about whose ette— sort of unsure more about whose ette thew-te— sort of unsure more about whose ette thew-re eh— sort of unsure more about whose side they're on, why do we think amehee— side they're on, why do we think amehee hee— side they're on, why do we think america has had— side they're on, why do we think america has had this? . america has had this? it's etmeet— america has had this? it's almost overnight,- america has had this? it's almost overnight, isn't it? a change of heart about the supply of jets? because it can be perceived as very antagonistic perceived as a very antagonistic attitude and cause even more friction with with with with moscow. surely yes. but i think the ththg— moscow. surely yes. but i think the ththg te— moscow. surely yes. but i think the thing is that— moscow. surely yes. but i think the thing is that this— f ”egg yes. but i think the thing is that this war is eteggmg— the thing is that this war is eteggmg eh— the thing is that this war is dragging on, isn't it? obviously,- dragging on, isn't it? obviously, putin imagined that he wewtt— obviously, putin imagined that he wewtt wim— obviously, putin imagined that he would win it— obviously, putin imagined that he would win it very quickly . he would win it very quickly. thet— he would win it very quickly. thet them-t— he would win it very quickly. that didn't happen. the west did

teth— that didn't happen. the west did tettw eht— that didn't happen. the west did rally round, but— that didn't happen. the west did rally round, but as— that didn't happen. the west did rally round, but as things etemh— rally round, but as things etemt. tt-e— rally round, but as things stand, it's very- rally round, but as things stand, it's very difficult to thie— stand, it's very difficult to see this ending any time soon, eht— see this ending any time soon, me he— see this ending any time soon, and it's ferociously expensive, het— and it's ferociously expensive, met teet— and it's ferociously expensive, met iwet th— and it's ferociously expensive, not just in the— and it's ferociously expensive, not just in the military kit thet— not just in the military kit thet wehe— not just in the military kit that we're supplying to ukraine, but that we're supplying to ukraine, hwt th— that we're supplying to ukraine, hwt tm whet— that we're supplying to ukraine, but in what it's— that we're supplying to ukraine, but in what it's doing to food emcee.— but in what it's doing to food pheee whet— but in what it's doing to food prices, what it's— but in what it's doing to food prices, what it's doing to emetgw— prices, what it's doing to energy theee— prices, what it's doing to energy prices as a result. so i thtmt— energy prices as a result. so i thtmt the— energy prices as a result. so i think the thinking is that these jets think the thinking is that these iete em— think the thinking is that these jets can potentially be a game ehemget— jets can potentially be a game ehemget tet— jets can potentially be a game changer for and— jets can potentially be a game changer for and that it could tem— changer for and that it could twm em— changer for and that it could twm em the— changer for and that it could turn on the tide— changer for and that it could turn on the tide because what mehetw— turn on the tide because what nobody wemte— turn on the tide because what nobody wants is— turn on the tide because what nobody wants is this war to go on nobody wants is this war to go em tet— nobody wants is this war to go em tet weete— nobody wants is this war to go on for years and _ nobody wants is this war to go on for years and years and years . amt— on for years and years and years . amt ._ on for years and years and years . amt . gweee— on for years and years and years . and i guess putin— on for years and years and years . and i guess putin is hoping thet— . and i guess putin is hoping thet ee— . and i guess putin is hoping thet ee it— . and i guess putin is hoping that as it progresses, the west ewemtwettw— that as it progresses, the west eventually will— that as it progresses, the west eventually will get tired of twmttmg— eventually will get tired of twmttmg it.— eventually will get tired of funding it. we'll get tired of, you— funding it. we'll get tired of, you thew— funding it. we'll get tired of, you knew .— funding it. we'll get tired of, you know , and— funding it. we'll get tired of, you know , and will the support you know, and will the support witt— you know, and will the support with etett— you know, and will the support with etett te— you know, and will the support will start to fracture. ttitti will start to fracture. now, there— will start to fracture. now, there ete— will start to fracture. now, there e— will start to fracture. now, there are a lot— will start to fracture. now, there are a lot of the g7 last year got a lot of criticism, didn't it? it was it was it was literally dubbed as like a posh stag do for very rich people, wasn't it? there were a lot of people here going, yeah, all very good . all talking, talking,

very good. all talking, talking, talking. but what's actually happening to the walking , happening to the walking, walking, walking. does anything ever come out of the g7 summit that actually makes a difference ? well, i think yes. i mean, ehwewetw— ? well, i think yes. i mean, ehwewetw .— ? well, i think yes. i mean, obviously , we— ? well, i think yes. i mean, obviously , we a— 7’ well, i think yes. i mean, obviously , we a lot of things obviously, we a lot of things ete— obviously, we a lot of things are pre agreed.— obviously, we a lot of things are pre agreed. they've been wettet— are pre agreed. they've been wettet em— are pre agreed. they've been wettet em hw— are pre agreed. they've been worked on by officials in the we.— worked on by officials in the we. se— worked on by officials in the he. he wee— worked on by officials in the run up. so you get the announcements at the actual conference-but- announcements at the actual conference but these conference itself. but these geteemet— conference itself. but these personal relationships that teetete— personal relationships that leaders can— personal relationships that leaders can make with each other or leaders can make with each other et ethere— leaders can make with each other or others, these _ leaders can make with each other or others, these obviously the httetetet— or others, these obviously the bilateral conversations rishi semet— bilateral conversations rishi semet heem— bilateral conversations rishi sunak been talking to emmanuel heem— sunak been talking to emmanuel weem witt— sunak been talking to emmanuel macron will no— sunak been talking to emmanuel macron will no doubt hear what thew-we— macron will no doubt hear what thew-we heem— macron will no doubt hear what they've been talking about . i'd they've been talking about. i'd hezett— they've been talking about. i'd hezett e— they've been talking about. i'd hazard a guess— they've been talking about. i'd hazard a guess more boats may teetwe— hazard a guess more boats may teetwe here.— hazard a guess more boats may feature here, but— hazard a guess more boats may feature here, but these personal tetetteme— feature here, but these personal tetetteme ee— feature here, but these personal relations are important and we teemt— relations are important and we teemt. them-t— relations are important and we learnt, didn't we,— relations are important and we learnt, didn't we, in the eemtemte— learnt, didn't we, in the pandemic working from home, hewmg— pandemic working from home, having meetings— pandemic working from home, having meetings over zoom. it's teet— having meetings over zoom. it's iwet met— having meetings over zoom. it's iwet met the— having meetings over zoom. it's just not the same.— having meetings over zoom. it's just not the same. so there is a hemettt— just not the same. so there is a hemettt hem — just not the same. so there is a benefit from physically going and benefit from physically going emt meettmg— benefit from physically going and meeting people face to face emt— and meeting people face to face emt tteht — and meeting people face to face emt tteht emt— and meeting people face to face and rishi and zelenskyy have a very— and rishi and zelenskyy have a very wm— and rishi and zelenskyy have a very warm relationship . �*tw�*tzi; very warm relationship. we've them— very warm relationship. we've seen them hugging one another andifs seen them hugging one another and it's very , you know, macho and it's very, you know, macho stuff, isn't it ? no, but they stuff, isn't it? no, but they eteettw— stuff, isn't it? no, but they eteettw te. — stuff, isn't it? no, but they clearly do. and— e i’ no, but they clearly do. and obviously boris iehmeem— clearly do. and obviously boris iehmeem tet— clearly do. and obviously boris johnson, for whatever many eeehte— johnson, for whatever many people thtmt— johnson, for whatever many people think of— johnson, for whatever many people think of him, did lead

the we— people think of him, did lead the we th— people think of him, did lead the way in the— people think of him, did lead the way in the west and the way in the west response and eweeehtmg— the way in the west response and supporting ukraine. and that is eemethtmg— supporting ukraine. and that is something that— supporting ukraine. and that is something that sunak has something that rishi sunak has picked— something that rishi sunak has picked—clearly- something that rishi sunak has picked _clearly do l picked up on. they clearly do hete— picked up on. they clearly do hewe e— picked up on. they clearly do hewe e geet— picked up on. they clearly do have a good relationship and when— have a good relationship and hhtetm tet— have a good relationship and britain for all. _ have a good relationship and britain for all. okay, we're out of britain for all. okay, we're out et the — britain for all. okay, we're out et the th— britain for all. okay, we're out of the eu. many— britain for all. okay, we're out of the eu. many people say our heet— of the eu. many people say our heet tewe— of the eu. many people say our heet tewe ee— of the eu. many people say our best days are behind us. heeethtw— best days are behind us. possibly they— best days are behind us. possibly they are. but, you thew.— possibly they are. but, you thew-tet- possibly they are. but, you know,-led the- possibly they are. but, you know, led the way. possibly they are. but, you- know,-led the way. we've know, we have led the way. we've set know, we have led the way. we've eetleeemhte— know, we have led the way. we've eetleeemete .— know, we have led the way. we've set-example . now— know, we have led the way. we've set example . now zelenskyy is set an example. now zelenskyy is no set an example. now zelenskyy is me temget— set an example. now zelenskyy is me temget eettmg— set an example. now zelenskyy is no longer asking for our typhoon iete. — no longer asking for our typhoon iete. thew-te— no longer asking for our typhoon iete. they're met— no longer asking for our typhoon jets. they're not suitable all. gut.— jets. they're not suitable all. hut. wee— jets. they're not suitable all. hwt. you thew.— jets. they're not suitable all. but, you know, we gave the temte. — but, you know, we gave the temte. we— but, you know, we gave the tanks. we were— but, you know, we gave the tanks. we were training pilots. were— tanks. we were training pilots. were tetmg— tanks. we were training pilots. we're doing our— tanks. we were training pilots. we're doing our bit and rishi eemet— we're doing our bit and rishi semet hee— we're doing our bit and rishi sunak has got— we're doing our bit and rishi sunak has got lots of problems at sunak has got lots of problems et heme. — sunak has got lots of problems at home. we've— sunak has got lots of problems at home. we've got lots of etehteme— at home. we've got lots of etehteme th— at home. we've got lots of problems in this country. but hetmg— problems in this country. but hetmg there— problems in this country. but being there on— problems in this country. but being there on the world stage emt— being there on the world stage emt .— being there on the world stage emt . thtmh— being there on the world stage and i think, you— being there on the world stage and i think, you know, it's worthwhile— and i think, you know, it's worthwhile . _ and i think, you know, it's worthwhile . ttitti and i think, you know, it's worthwhile. \tith stirti; and i think, you know, it's worthwhile . wtith xiii; titii; and i think, you know, it's- worthwhile . now, there are some worthwhile. now, there are some countries that aren't as what should we say as as warm towards helping ukraine. i mean, france and germany spring to mind . do and germany spring to mind. do we think that this will actually help the relations between those countries as well ? well, that's countries as well? well, that's eteettw— countries as well? well, that's eteettw the— countries as well? well, that's clearly the hope.— countries as well? well, that's clearly the hope. and- titit. , well, that's clearly the hope. and of ti.tit. , well, that's clearly the hope. and of course, it's clearly the hope. and of course, he met— clearly the hope. and of course, he met teet— clearly the hope. and of course, it's not just about— clearly the hope. and of course, it's not just about the message

thet— it's not just about the message thet thew-te— it's not just about the message that they're sending to vladimir hetm— that they're sending to vladimir hwttm. te— that they're sending to vladimir hwttm. te ite— that they're sending to vladimir putin, is it? it's— that they're sending to vladimir putin, is it? it's also about the— putin, is it? it's also about the meege— putin, is it? it's also about the message that the west is ending— the message that the west is eemttmg te— the message that the west is sending to china— the message that the west is sending to china , because there sending to china, because there witt— sending to china, because there with he— sending to china, because there with he e— sending to china, because there with he e tet— sending to china, because there will be a lot of— sending to china, because there will be a lot of concern about chime-e— will be a lot of concern about china's intentions— will be a lot of concern about china's intentions regarding tetwem— china's intentions regarding tetwem .— china's intentions regarding tetwem . amt— china's intentions regarding taiwan . and so— china's intentions regarding taiwan . and so there is this taiwan. and so there is this meet— taiwan. and so there is this meet met— taiwan. and so there is this need not just— taiwan. and so there is this need not just for- taiwan. and so there is this need not just for putin and tweete— need not just for putin and tweete. het— need not just for putin and russia, but to _ need not just for putin and russia, but to china to send a meege— russia, but to china to send a message we are— russia, but to china to send a message we are together and eem-t— message we are together and tem-t eem— message we are together and don't even think— message we are together and don't even think about marching tmte— don't even think about marching tmte tetwem— don't even think about marching into taiwan. so— don't even think about marching into taiwan. so there's ukraine. amt— into taiwan. so there's ukraine. amt them— into taiwan. so there's ukraine. and then there's— into taiwan. so there's ukraine. and then there's china also hwgetw— and then there's china also hugely important. and you know, ttmee— hugely important. and you know, ttmee hewe— hugely important. and you know, times have really— hugely important. and you know, times have really changed heee— times have really changed because it's— times have really changed because it's not so long ago thet— because it's not so long ago thet we— because it's not so long ago that we thought,— because it's not so long ago that we thought, you could buy whetewet— that we thought, you could buy whetewet wee — that we thought, you could buy whatever you want from wherever you whatever you want from wherever wee-gtehettw— whatever you want from wherever wee-gtehettw-mel you want globally, there was no ttmtte— you want globally, there was no ttmtte .— you want globally, there was no ttmtte . we— you want globally, there was no limits . we learnt— you want globally, there was no limits . we learnt during the limits. we learnt during the eemtemte— limits. we learnt during the pandemic-with- limits. we learnt during the pandemic with the limits. we learnt during the- pandemic _with the war pandemic and now with the war thet— pandemic and now with the war thet teet— pandemic and now with the war that just assuming you can get emwthtmg— that just assuming you can get emwthtmg hem — that just assuming you can get anything from anywhere , there is anything from anywhere, there is not anything from anywhere, there is metlgteet— anything from anywhere, there is notlgreat strategy— anything from anywhere, there is notlgreat strategy .— anything from anywhere, there is not great strategy . we have to not a great strategy. we have to teet— not a great strategy. we have to heet-tet— not a great strategy. we have to look-for making— not a great strategy. we have to look for making our own look out for making our own pee— look out for making our own pee hewmg— look out for making our own power, having food security wettw— power, having food security wettw emt— power, having food security motty and building these etttemeee— motty and building these alliances. it's— motty and building these alliances. it's actually very hete— alliances. it's actually very heet te— alliances. it's actually very hard to find— alliances. it's actually very hard to find anything that heem-t— hard to find anything that hasn't or hasn't been made in china or eetwettw— hasn't been made in china or actually component made actually had a component made in thine — actually had a component made in thine -et— actually had a component made in china. _of china- actually had a component made in china. _of china ,- actually had a component made in china. _of china , liz- china. talking of china, liz truss been in in truss has actually been in in

taiwan problematic taiwan as well. how problematic do you think she's been for rishi sunak this week? oh, well , yes. i mean, there's a lot of there-e— , yes. i mean, there's a lot of there-e e— , yes. i mean, there's a lot of there-e e tet— , yes. i mean, there's a lot of there's a lot of— «tilt? i mean, there's a lot of there's a lot of ex—prime mtmtetete— there's a lot of ex—prime ministers floating around. boris iehmeem— ministers floating around. boris iehmeem wee— ministers floating around. boris johnson was speaking in seoul, i think— johnson was speaking in seoul, i thtmt eemet— johnson was speaking in seoul, i think earlier in— johnson was speaking in seoul, i think earlier in the— johnson was speaking in seoul, i think earlier in the week, and he heeteettw— think earlier in the week, and he basically compared tory prime wtmtetete— he basically compared tory prime wtmtetete te— he basically compared tory prime ministers to squid— he basically compared tory prime ministers to squid game that there-e— ministers to squid game that there-e ee— ministers to squid game that there's so many— ministers to squid game that there's so many of them, you thew.— there's so many of them, you thew. thew— there's so many of them, you know, they sort— there's so many of them, you know, they sort of— there's so many of them, you know, they sort of clones and thew-te— know, they sort of clones and they're poppi“9_ know, they sort of clones and they're popping up unhelpfully. but they're popping up unhelpfully. hwt .— they're popping up unhelpfully. hwt . wee— they're popping up unhelpfully. hwt . em— they're popping up unhelpfully. but i was an inventor, a china ewemt— but i was an inventor, a china event yesterday— but i was an inventor, a china event yesterday in— but i was an inventor, a china event yesterday in westminster wtth — event yesterday in westminster wtth peepte — event yesterday in westminster with people from _ event yesterday in westminster with people from the states and senators, senators— with people from the states and senators, senators ,_ with people from the states and senators, senators , etcetera, senators, senators, etcetera, emt— senators, senators, etcetera, emt hewtteh— senators, senators, etcetera, and hawkish members of the conservative— and hawkish members of the conservative party were very, very— conservative party were very, very eemeemet— conservative party were very, very concerned about what they perceive— very concerned about what they perceive ee— very concerned about what they peteetwe ee e— very concerned about what they perceive as a softening in our eppteeeh— perceive as a softening in our eppteeeh te— perceive as a softening in our approach to china. of course, tteht— approach to china. of course, tteht semet— approach to china. of course, rishi sunak had— approach to china. of course, rishi sunak had pledged many thtmge— rishi sunak had pledged many thtmge tm— rishi sunak had pledged many thtmge he the— rishi sunak had pledged many things in the leadership eempetgm— things in the leadership eempetgm .— things in the leadership campaign , closing the confucius campaign, closing the confucius tmetttwtee— campaign, closing the confucius tmetttwtee tm— campaign, closing the confucius institutes in the— campaign, closing the confucius institutes in the universities, hetmg— institutes in the universities, hetmg ee— institutes in the universities, hetmg et— institutes in the universities, being one of them. now they're not

being one of them. now they're met getmg— being one of them. now they're met getmg te— being one of them. now they're met getmg te te— being one of them. now they're not going to do that, so they're tteettmg— not going to do that, so they're tteettmg e— not going to do that, so they're tteettmg e wett— not going to do that, so they're treading a very delicate hetemetmg— treading a very delicate balancing act. but the fact is thet— balancing act. but the fact is thet we— balancing act. but the fact is thet we hewe— balancing act. but the fact is that we have so— balancing act. but the fact is that we have so much money tmweetet— that we have so much money tmweetet tm— that we have so much money invested in this— that we have so much money invested in this country from chtmeee— invested in this country from chinese firms— invested in this country from chinese firms and also it's a big— chinese firms and also it's a htg expert— chinese firms and also it's a htg expert tet— chinese firms and also it's a big export for market us. so we wemt— big export for market us. so we wemt te— big export for market us. so we wemt te he— big export for market us. so we want to be not— big export for market us. so we want to be not too— big export for market us. so we want to be not too friendly . we want to be not too friendly. we het— want to be not too friendly. we hwt the— want to be not too friendly. we but the financial— want to be not too friendly. we but the financial consequence ounces of backing away massively are ounces of backing away massively etee— ounces of backing away massively are also considerable. just tmettw— are also considerable. just finally, catherine, just on a lighter note, i mean, given bofis lighter note, i mean, given boris johnson's alleged comments about president macron of france, how do you think that conversation is going to go between rishi and macron about what may or may not have been said? and it was quite insulting, fair, not insulting, to be fair, not repeating family show . repeating it's family show. yeah, i think we can safely say thet— yeah, i think we can safely say thet tteht — yeah, i think we can safely say that rishi sunak— yeah, i think we can safely say that rishi sunak and emmanuel heem— that rishi sunak and emmanuel weem hete— that rishi sunak and emmanuel weem hewe e— that rishi sunak and emmanuel macron have a much better our tetettemehtp— macron have a much better our tetettemehtp .— macron have a much better our relationship . you— macron have a much better our relationship . you saw when they relationship. you saw when they thet— relationship. you saw when they thet met.— relationship. you saw when they thet met. thew— relationship. you saw when they first met, they look very alike. thew-te— first met, they look very alike. they're heth— first met, they look very alike. they're both sort— first met, they look very alike. they're both sort of similar backgrounds,— they're both sort of similar backgrounds, aren't they? small, wett— backgrounds, aren't they? small, wew mettttw— backgrounds, aren't they? small, very nattily dressed, similar age— very nattily dressed, similar ege hewe— very nattily dressed, similar age have come— very nattily dressed, similar age have come from finance and

it's age have come from finance and he met— age have come from finance and he met thet— age have come from finance and it's not that surprising that heme— it's not that surprising that boris johnson— it's not that surprising that boris johnson said those things thet— boris johnson said those things thet we— boris johnson said those things thet we eem-t— boris johnson said those things that we can't possibly say on het— that we can't possibly say on hwt .— that we can't possibly say on air. but i think— that we can't possibly say on air. but i think if— that we can't possibly say on air. but i think if i doubt, to be air. but i think if i doubt, to he hemeet— air. but i think if i doubt, to be honest, there'll be any discussion.— be honest, there'll be any discussion. but- be honest, there'll be any discussion. but if there is, i'm thet— discussion. but if there is, i'm sure that rishi _ discussion. but if there is, i'm sure that rishi sunak will ttetemee— sure that rishi sunak will distance himself completely from his predecessor— distance himself completely from his predecessor .— distance himself completely from his predecessor . so— distance himself completely from his predecessor. so that would be his predecessor. so that would he e— his predecessor. so that would he e wett— his predecessor. so that would be a very different style . be a very different style. that wette— be a very different style. that weett he— be a very different style. that weett he the— be a very different style. that would be the one— be a very different style. that would be the one to be the fly on that wouldn't it? on the wall that wouldn't it? that's that's great. you that's that's great. thank you very for very much, catherine, for joining and bringing joining us. and bringing us up to what happening in to date on what is happening in hiroshima g7 right now hiroshima with the g7 right now . the counting has resumed in the government election as . the counting has resumed in tinew government election as . the counting has resumed in tinew shape ernment election as . the counting has resumed in tinew shape ofiment election as . the counting has resumed in tinew shape of northern ction as a new shape of northern ireland's council chambers begins to emerge. of this begins to emerge. as of this morning, 157 of the 460 seats are still yet to be filled . and are still yet to be filled. and sinn fein has made a strong start and remains on course to become the largest party in the local government, with 93. council was elected and now our northern ireland ireland reporter dougie beattie joins us now to bring us up to speed on how the elections are going and what exactly is happening.

draghi good afternoon. thank you for joining us. so what what is forjoining us. so what what is happening? how are the results coming in? this announcement is well, just one coming in over my shoulder as we come on air. but yes, it's been a good election for yes, it's been a good election he simm— yes, it's been a good election for sinn fein._ yes, it's been a good election for sinn fein. their vote is up ehewt— for sinn fein. their vote is up ehewt ht.— for sinn fein. their vote is up about 7.5. that— for sinn fein. their vote is up about 7.5. that will cause ptehteme— about 7.5. that will cause problems for— about 7.5. that will cause problems for chris heaton—harris heee— problems for chris heaton—harris heee et— problems for chris heaton—harris because of what— problems for chris heaton—harris because of what happens next. of the— because of what happens next. of course the stormont_ because of what happens next. of course the stormont assembly is not course the stormont assembly is met up— course the stormont assembly is met up emt— course the stormont assembly is not up and running, so these eewmett— not up and running, so these council chambers are in a lot of wewe— council chambers are in a lot of wewe mmmtmg— council chambers are in a lot of ways running northern ireland via ways running northern ireland weleett— ways running northern ireland weleett et— ways running northern ireland weleett et e— ways running northern ireland via sort of a zombie direct via a sort of a zombie direct rete— via a sort of a zombie direct mte hem— via a sort of a zombie direct rule from chris— via a sort of a zombie direct rule from chris heaton—harris heee— rule from chris heaton—harris heee the— rule from chris heaton—harris because the dup— rule from chris heaton—harris because the dup vote is down ehewt— because the dup vote is down ehewt pee.— because the dup vote is down about 1.2% and— because the dup vote is down about 1.2% and the uup , which is about 1.2% and the uup, which is the very— about1.2% and the uup, which is the very liberal— about 1.2% and the uup, which is the very liberal unionist party . te— the very liberal unionist party . te tewm— the very liberal unionist party . te tewm emt— the very liberal unionist party , is down and around 3.2. and the— , is down and around 3.2. and the thw— , is down and around 3.2. and the new te— , is down and around 3.2. and the new te ep— , is down and around 3.2. and the tuv is up at— , is down and around 3.2. and the tuv is up at about 1.5. so thet— the tuv is up at about 1.5. so thet meem— the tuv is up at about 1.5. so that means that— the tuv is up at about 1.5. so that means that liberal unionism is that means that liberal unionism te getmg. — that means that liberal unionism te getmg. thew— that means that liberal unionism te getmg. they ee— that means that liberal unionism is going. they are becoming the metetete— is going. they are becoming the moderate side— is going. they are becoming the moderate side of— is going. they are becoming the moderate side of unionist, heeemtmg— moderate side of unionist, becoming much sterner and they are becoming much sterner and they twmtmg— becoming much sterner and they twmtmg ewew— becoming much sterner and they are turning away from the good thtew— are turning away from the good friday agreement.— are turning away from the good friday agreement. the up, of course , is one— friday agreement. the up, of course , is one of— friday agreement. the up, of course , is one of those parties. course, is one of those parties. of course, is one of those parties. eh eewee— course, is one of those parties. of course, that— course, is one of those parties. of course, that was— course, is one of those parties.

of course, that was right in the hem— of course, that was right in the heett et— of course, that was right in the heett et the— of course, that was right in the heart of the good— of course, that was right in the heart of the good friday agreememt— heart of the good friday agreement along with the sdlp. thew-te— agreement along with the sdlp. thev're etee— agreement along with the sdlp. they're also down— agreement along with the sdlp. they're also down 3.7. they've teet— they're also down 3.7. they've teet ehewt— they're also down 3.7. they've teet ehewt tt— they're also down 3.7. they've lost about 11 seats,— they're also down 3.7. they've lost about 11 seats, both dougie heettte— lost about 11 seats, both dougie heettte .— lost about 11 seats, both dougie heettte . whe— lost about 11 seats, both dougie beattie , who is— lost about 11 seats, both dougie beattie , who is the leader of beattie, who is the leader of the— beattie, who is the leader of the hue— beattie, who is the leader of the hue et— beattie, who is the leader of the dup or the— beattie, who is the leader of the dup or the uup and callum teetweeet— the dup or the uup and callum eastwood, who— the dup or the uup and callum eastwood, who is— the dup or the uup and callum eastwood, who is the leader of the sett— eastwood, who is the leader of the shut .— eastwood, who is the leader of the sdlp , said— eastwood, who is the leader of the sdlp , said they're staying the sdlp, said they're staying on the sdlp, said they're staying em thet. — the sdlp, said they're staying em thet. thew— the sdlp, said they're staying on that. they don't see this as a on that. they don't see this as e teetgmettem— on that. they don't see this as a resignation matter. but in teetttw— a resignation matter. but in teetttw tm— a resignation matter. but in reality, in reality, this is a massive blow— reality, in reality, this is a massive blow for anybody that wemte— massive blow for anybody that wemte te — massive blow for anybody that wemte te get— massive blow for anybody that wants to get stormont up and mmmtmg— wants to get stormont up and mmmtmg egetm— wants to get stormont up and running again because chris heaton—harris_ running again because chris heaton—harris always about heaton—harris was always about thteetemtmg— heaton—harris was always about threatening-that- heaton—harris was always about threatening that he heaton—harris was always about threategotg that he heaton—harris was always about threatego to that he heaton—harris was always about threatego to another that he heaton—harris was always about threatego to another election and would go to another election and the heme— would go to another election and the alliance party,— would go to another election and the alliance party, that middle gtewmt— the alliance party, that middle gtewmt thet— the alliance party, that middle ground that was— the alliance party, that middle ground that was in there has entw— ground that was in there has only gtewm— ground that was in there has only gtewm hw— ground that was in there has only grown by about 2% so far in the— only grown by about 2% so far in this election.— only grown by about 2% so far in this election. so— only grown by about 2% so far in this election. so that would say to this election. so that would say te wee— this election. so that would say te wee thet— this election. so that would say te you thet e— this election. so that would say to you that a lot— this election. so that would say to you that a lot of— this election. so that would say to you that a lot of the sdlp is going— to you that a lot of the sdlp is getmg te— to you that a lot of the sdlp is getmg te simm— to you that a lot of the sdlp is going to sinn fein— to you that a lot of the sdlp is going to sinn fein and most of the meter— going to sinn fein and most of the ulster unionist party is meeting— the ulster unionist party is heading towards the alliance party— heading towards the alliance tettw ee— heading towards the alliance tettw ee tt— heading towards the alliance party so it doesn't shape up too wett— party so it doesn't shape up too wett tet— party so it doesn't shape up too wett tet whet— party so it doesn't shape up too well for what will— party so it doesn't shape up too well for what will happen here the— well for what will happen here over the next— well for what will happen here over the next few— well for what will happen here over the next few months in ettee— over the next few months in ettee te— over the next few months in ettee te get— over the next few months in order to get stormont up and mmmtmg— order to get stormont up and mmmtmweg-e- order to get stormont up and running. we're just running. i mean, we're just heehmg—thetei hearing on the news there that the department— hearing on the news there that the department infrastruc the department of infrastruc eetet— the department of infrastruc actor-claiming— the department of infrastruc actor claiming they may actor is claiming that they may not actor is claiming that they may met me— actor is claiming that they may not have enough— actor is claiming that they may not have enough money to keep

the tighte— not have enough money to keep the ttghte em— not have enough money to keep the lights on, street lights on. het— the lights on, street lights on. hut-wetthem- the lights on, street lights on. but northern ireland but of course northern ireland teee—hwtget. - but of course northern ireland. does—budget. northern does not have a budget. northern hetemt— does not have a budget. northern ireland-block— does not have a budget. northern ireland block grant. ireland has a block grant. stetmemt— ireland has a block grant. stormont is— ireland has a block grant. stormont is very much like some of stormont is very much like some et-teeet— stormont is very much like some of-local councils- stormont is very much like some of local councils behind. of these local councils behind. it of these local councils behind. tt-tteeet— of these local councils behind. it-fiscal powers- of these local councils behind. it-fiscal powers to- of these local councils behind. it fiscal powers to speak it has no fiscal powers to speak of it has no fiscal powers to speak et emt— it has no fiscal powers to speak et emt tt— it has no fiscal powers to speak et emt tt te— it has no fiscal powers to speak of and it is given— it has no fiscal powers to speak of and it is given money by the whim— of and it is given money by the british government and it british government and then it has british government and then it hee te— british government and then it hee te ehete— british government and then it has to share it— british government and then it has to share it out. just like theee— has to share it out. just like these councils— has to share it out. just like these councils do behind us. and of . these councils do behind us. and et-. te— these councils do behind us. and of-. 1.8 million— these councils do behind us. and of-. 1.8 million or- these councils do behind us. and of . 1.8 million or 1.9 of course. 1.8 million or 1.9 mttttem— of course. 1.8 million or 1.9 million people— of course. 1.8 million or 1.9 million people in northern hetemt— million people in northern ireland with— million people in northern ireland with round about 18 httttem— ireland with round about 18 httttem et— ireland with round about 18 billion of a— ireland with round about 18 billion of a block grant coming to billion of a block grant coming te we— billion of a block grant coming te thet-e— billion of a block grant coming te thet-e e— billion of a block grant coming to us, that's a make up of wettere— to us, that's a make up of welfare. barnett- to us, that's a make up of welfare. barnett consequentials amt— welfare. barnett consequentials amt et— welfare. barnett consequentials amt et eewee— welfare. barnett consequentials and of course the— welfare. barnett consequentials and of course the block grant tteett— and of course the block grant tteett et— and of course the block grant itself at about— and of course the block grant itself at about 9.7 billion. thet-e— itself at about 9.7 billion. that's roughly— itself at about 9.7 billion. that's roughly about £100,000 a heet. — that's roughly about £100,000 a heet. shrew— that's roughly about £100,000 a head. surely northern ireland mete— head. surely northern ireland mete tt— head. surely northern ireland can make it work with that sort of can make it work with that sort et memew— can make it work with that sort of money there. _ can make it work with that sort of money there. and these eewmette— of money there. and these councils may— of money there. and these councils may well have to do thet— councils may well have to do that because _ councils may well have to do that because it— councils may well have to do that because it doesn't look as if. that because it doesn't look as h. chhe— that because it doesn't look as if. chris heaton—harris has tewetege— if. chris heaton—harris has leverage that— if. chris heaton—harris has leverage that he has secured tew— leverage that he has secured tew et— leverage that he has secured tew et etete— leverage that he has secured tary of state to— leverage that he has secured tary of state to try and push the— tary of state to try and push the hue— tary of state to try and push the hue te— tary of state to try and push the dup is going to work. dougie we het— the dup is going to work. dougie we we've had elections over here teeemttw — we we've had elections over here recently, obviously,— we we've had elections over here recently, obviously, and the twmewt— recently, obviously, and the turnout wasn't _ recently, obviously, and the turnout wasn't brilliant in most pteeee. — turnout wasn't brilliant in most pteeee. whet— turnout wasn't brilliant in most places. what has— turnout wasn't brilliant in most places. what has the- turnout wasn't brilliant in most places. what has the turnout been like for the people of

northern ireland? i mean , is northern ireland? i mean, is there a huge appetite for getting the stormont situation sorted out ? i think most people sorted out? i think most people here— sorted out? i think most people here ee— sorted out? i think most people here pretty— sorted out? i think most people here are pretty much— : titte?’ i think most people here are pretty much fed : time? i think most people here are pretty much fed up : tit-.? i think most people here are pretty much fed up with the stetmemt— here are pretty much fed up with the stormont situation. unionists— the stormont situation. unionists see- the stormont situation. unionists see it not working for them — unionists see it not working for them et— unionists see it not working for them et ett. — unionists see it not working for them at all. they— unionists see it not working for them at all. they see it as a tetet— them at all. they see it as a total breach— them at all. they see it as a total breach of— them at all. they see it as a total breach of the good friday egeememt— total breach of the good friday egteememt. et— total breach of the good friday agreement, of which they signed up te— agreement, of which they signed up te ze— agreement, of which they signed up te ze peere— agreement, of which they signed up te ze weete ege— agreement, of which they signed up to 25 years ago this year. i thie— up to 25 years ago this year. i mean, this election today are the— mean, this election today are thte week— mean, this election today are this week had— mean, this election today are this week had about right about 52 eeme— this week had about right about 52 some places— this week had about right about 52 some places 60% turnout that is 52 some places 60% turnout that te pretty— 52 some places 60% turnout that te ptettw geet— 52 some places 60% turnout that te ptettw geet tet— 52 some places 60% turnout that is pretty good for a— 52 some places 60% turnout that is pretty good for a local eteettem— is pretty good for a local eteettem .— is pretty good for a local election . but— is pretty good for a local election . but it depends on how election. but it depends on how you— election. but it depends on how wee teet— election. but it depends on how wee teet et— election. but it depends on how wee teet et tt— election. but it depends on how wee teet et tt .— election. but it depends on how you look at it. is— election. but it depends on how you look at it. is the election. but it depends on how you look at it . is the election you look at it. is the election hetmg— you look at it. is the election hetmg pet— you look at it. is the election being put forward _ you look at it. is the election being put forward as some sort of being put forward as some sort et hteeetmg— being put forward as some sort of blessing on— being put forward as some sort of blessing on the— being put forward as some sort of blessing on the framework teeememt— of blessing on the framework teeememt et— of blessing on the framework document or has— of blessing on the framework document or has it been brought hemett— document or has it been brought tetwett ee— document or has it been brought forward as what— document or has it been brought forward as what it— document or has it been brought forward as what it should be a teeet— forward as what it should be a local council— forward as what it should be a local council election? so peepte— local council election? so peepte ee— local council election? so people are seeing this in ttttetemt— people are seeing this in different ways. but most people in different ways. but most people he wetthem— different ways. but most people in northern ireland are pretty petttteettw— in northern ireland are pretty politically aware— in northern ireland are pretty politically aware , but they are politically aware, but they are fed politically aware, but they are tee ep— politically aware, but they are tee ep with— politically aware, but they are fed up with the— politically aware, but they are fed up with the stalemate. but it meet— fed up with the stalemate. but it meet he— fed up with the stalemate. but it must be said— fed up with the stalemate. but it must be said the framework teeememt— it must be said the framework document does— it must be said the framework document does not work for wetthem— document does not work for northern ireland. rishi sunak wew— northern ireland. rishi sunak wew mech— northern ireland. rishi sunak very much imposed it on the tmtemtete— very much imposed it on the unionists as— very much imposed it on the unionists as a— very much imposed it on the unionists as a cure to the pteteeet— unionists as a cure to the preteeet .— unionists as a cure to the protocol , and— unionists as a cure to the protocol, and this is a verdict on protocol, and this is a verdict em tt— protocol, and this is a verdict

em tt tet— protocol, and this is a verdict on it for them— protocol, and this is a verdict on it for them and it's not good . theht— on it for them and it's not good . themt wee— on it for them and it's not good . thank you very— on it for them and it's not good . thank you very much- on it for them and it's not good . thank you very much ,- on it for them and it's not good . thank you very much, dougie. that's dougie beattie our northern ireland correspondent there. now also joining me is executive editor at the belfast telegraph, john laverty . hello, telegraph, john laverty. hello, john. good afternoon. thank you for joining us this afternoon , for joining us this afternoon, john. it sounds like quite a good turnout in the elections, much better than we had over in our recent local elections. how important are these local elections for the people of northern ireland? well, on the greene— northern ireland? well, on the gteemt. thew-te— northern ireland? well, on the ground, they're very— w 3“ well, on the ground, they're very important heee— ground, they're very important heee tt-e— ground, they're very important because it's all— ground, they're very important because it's all it's really all eheet— because it's all it's really all eheet the— because it's all it's really all about the support , the local about the support, the local het— about the support, the local issues. but this— about the support, the local issues. but this election was teeght— issues. but this election was teeght em— issues. but this election was teeght em e— issues. but this election was fought on a on— issues. but this election was fought on a on a— issues. but this election was fought on a on a different tt— fought on a on a different issue. it was— fought on a on a different issue. it was sinn fein hoping to issue. it was sinn fein hoping te eeme— issue. it was sinn fein hoping te eemt e— issue. it was sinn fein hoping to send a message that it's time to send a message that it's time te get— to send a message that it's time te get heet.— to send a message that it's time to get back. time— to send a message that it's time to get back. time for the dup to get heet— to get back. time for the dup to get heet te— to get back. time for the dup to get back to stormont and the dup at get back to stormont and the dup et the— get back to stormont and the dup et the eeme— get back to stormont and the dup at the same time,— get back to stormont and the dup at the same time, hoping to send at the same time, hoping to send e meege thet— at the same time, hoping to send a message that there their vote is a message that there their vote te hetttmg—

a message that there their vote te hetttmg ep— a message that there their vote is holding up their their, their theee— is holding up their their, their tteee tet— is holding up their their, their ideas for staying— is holding up their their, their ideas for staying away from stetmemt.— ideas for staying away from stormont. that's holding up and, and stormont. that's holding up and, met e— stormont. that's holding up and, met e ettemge— stormont. that's holding up and, and a strange way— stormont. that's holding up and, and a strange way both those thtmge— and a strange way both those thtmge hewe— and a strange way both those things have come true. i mean simm— things have come true. i mean stmm teth— things have come true. i mean sinn fein have— things have come true. i mean sinn fein have had a fantastic might.— sinn fein have had a fantastic mtght. hettet— sinn fein have had a fantastic night, better than most people expected.— night, better than most people expeetet. t— night, better than most people expected. i mean,— night, better than most people expected. i mean, i predicted thet— expected. i mean, i predicted thet thew— expected. i mean, i predicted that they would— expected. i mean, i predicted that they would have around 120 eeete— that they would have around 120 eeete het— that they would have around 120 eeete het tt-e— that they would have around 120 seats, but it's looking like thew-te— seats, but it's looking like they're getmg— seats, but it's looking like they're going to have more like he.— they're going to have more like he. se— they're going to have more like he. se t— they're going to have more like he. se t meem— they're going to have more like 130. so i mean they're doing hettet— 130. so i mean they're doing even better than— 130. so i mean they're doing even better than they expected. i even better than they expected. t — even better than they expected. t e— even better than they expected. t e tet— even better than they expected. i mean, a lot of— even better than they expected. i mean, a lot of people , some i mean, a lot of people, some peepte— i mean, a lot of people, some peepte eem— i mean, a lot of people, some people even within sinn fein , people even within sinn fein, weee-hit— people even within sinn fein, were-bit nervous- were a little bit nervous heee— were a little bit nervous because is— were a little bit nervous because is of- were a little bit nervous because is of the party leader up because is of the party leader ep hete- — because is of the party leader up here. michelle— because is of the party leader up here. michelle nato going to, you up here. michelle nato going to, wee thew.— up here. michelle nato going to, wee thew. the— up here. michelle nato going to, you know, the coronation. they theeght— you know, the coronation. they theeght thet— you know, the coronation. they thought that sinn— you know, the coronation. they thought that sinn fein would might— thought that sinn fein would mtght eemet— thought that sinn fein would might suffer for— thought that sinn fein would might suffer for that, not at eth— might suffer for that, not at we thew-we— might suffer for that, not at all. they've they've done even hettet— all. they've they've done even better. they're— all. they've they've done even better. they're going to be the htggeet— better. they're going to be the biggest party— better. they're going to be the biggest party in_ better. they're going to be the biggest party in local government- biggest party in local government . that's not government. that's not meeting.— government. that's not including, of- government. that's not including, of course, the, the stetmemt— including, of course, the, the stormont government. there are the htggeet— stormont government. there are the biggest party— stormont government. there are the biggest party there already . se— the biggest party there already . se thew— the biggest party there already . so their message is it's time to . so their message is it's time te get— . so their message is it's time te get heet— . so their message is it's time te get heet te— . so their message is it's time to get back to stormont. but the hue— to get back to stormont. but the hue witt— to get back to stormont. but the pet with eew— to get back to stormont. but the dup will say the— to get back to stormont. but the dup will say the exact opposite

. thew-tt— dup will say the exact opposite . thew-tt eew— dup will say the exact opposite . they'll say orville has held up . they'll say orville has held ep me— . they'll say orville has held up more or less— . they'll say orville has held up more or less and it's we're etewtmg— up more or less and it's we're etewtmg ewew— up more or less and it's we're etewtmg ewew. — up more or less and it's we're etewtmg ewew . t— up more or less and it's we're staying away . .. up more or less and it's we're staying away . " staying away. i mean, stormont hasn't sat since february 2022, is it ? i mean, it's a long time is it? i mean, it's a long time now , so that means, you know, now, so that means, you know, the problems on the ground, the nhs, the cost of living crisis , nhs, the cost of living crisis, all the things that everybody is facing in their day to day lives. none this being lives. none of this is being deau lives. none of this is being dealt with. so mean, when dealt with. so i mean, when can we to see now these we expect to see now these elections are happening and the votes are going in? when can we expect see stormont sitting expect to see stormont sitting again ? yeah, been asked again? yeah, i've been asked the— again? yeah, i've been asked thte geeettem— again? yeah, i've been asked this question on— again? yeah, i've been asked this question on gb- ig? 7 yeah, i've been asked this question on gb news news etme— this question on gb news news tehteew— this question on gb news news since february and i've said the thtmg— since february and i've said the thtmg ewew— since february and i've said the same thing every time. don't do not same thing every time. don't do met hete— same thing every time. don't do met hett weee— same thing every time. don't do not hold your breath waiting for the hue— not hold your breath waiting for the hue te— not hold your breath waiting for the hue te ge— not hold your breath waiting for the dup to go back. people have eete— the dup to go back. people have eete thie— the dup to go back. people have said this week,— the dup to go back. people have said this week, oh,— the dup to go back. people have said this week, oh, after these eteetteme— said this week, oh, after these elections they'll— said this week, oh, after these elections they'll go back. no, thew-te— elections they'll go back. no, thew-re met. — elections they'll go back. no, they're not. they— elections they'll go back. no, they're not. they won't . i don't they're not. they won't. i don't expect— they're not. they won't. i don't expect them— they're not. they won't. i don't expect them back— they're not. they won't. i don't expect them back this year . expect them back this year. thet— expect them back this year. their view— expect them back this year. their view is— expect them back this year. their view is very entrenched. em — their view is very entrenched. um tete— their view is very entrenched. em tet-eieet— their view is very entrenched. um let's just say— their view is very entrenched. um let's just say that they're met— um let's just say that they're met eeeettw— um let's just say that they're not exactly rushing back to eewe— not exactly rushing back to eewe eheet— not exactly rushing back to serve under a— not exactly rushing back to serve under a sinn fein first tttmtetet— serve under a sinn fein first minister and— serve under a sinn fein first minister and that hasn't changed

in minister and that hasn't changed tm teet— minister and that hasn't changed tm teet. the— minister and that hasn't changed in fact, the sdlp's_ minister and that hasn't changed in fact, the sdlp's performance or in fact, the sdlp's performance et eemw— in fact, the sdlp's performance et eemw the— in fact, the sdlp's performance or sorry, the sinn— in fact, the sdlp's performance or sorry, the sinn fein's performance— or sorry, the sinn fein's performance has uh, there petetmemeet— performance has uh, there performance has uh, there performance has increased , the performance has increased, the sttp-e— performance has increased, the sttp-e hee— performance has increased, the sttp-e hee geme— performance has increased, the sdlp's has gone down. so it's etmeet— sdlp's has gone down. so it's etmeet ee— sdlp's has gone down. so it's etmeet ee wee— sdlp's has gone down. so it's almost as you were, except sinn teth— almost as you were, except sinn tetm ee— almost as you were, except sinn tetm getmg— almost as you were, except sinn fein are doing even better than peepte— fein are doing even better than peepte wee— fein are doing even better than people were expect . so don't people were expect. so don't expect— people were expect. so don't expect e— people were expect. so don't expect a return— people were expect. so don't expect a return to for stormont gette— expect a return to for stormont gette e— expect a return to for stormont gette e white— expect a return to for stormont quite a while yet.— expect a return to for stormont quite a while yet. so john, what is quite a while yet. so john, what te tt— quite a while yet. so john, what te tt getmg— quite a while yet. so john, what te tt getmg te— quite a while yet. so john, what te tt getmg te te— quite a while yet. so john, what is it going to to take get the wetthem— is it going to to take get the northern ireland— is it going to to take get the northern ireland and stormont heet.— northern ireland and stormont heet. vee— northern ireland and stormont back, you know,— northern ireland and stormont back, you know, back running on an back, you know, back running on em teet— back, you know, back running on em teete — back, you know, back running on an even keel? back, you know, back running on an even keel ? : an even keel? that's a question and that's a question people in in your profession have been asking for the last 4 or 5 months or even longer than that. i don't know . what else can you i don't know. what else can you do i don't know. what else can you he e— i don't know. what else can you he ehee— i don't know. what else can you he evee hete— i don't know. what else can you do ? you have an— i don't know. what else can you do ? you have an election and, do? you have an election and, an.— do? you have an election and, eh. peepte— do? you have an election and, eh. peepte vete— do? you have an election and, uh, people vote for this, you thew.— uh, people vote for this, you thew. tet— uh, people vote for this, you know, for stormont to be tetemet. — know, for stormont to be returned. then- know, for stormont to be returned. then you have these eeemett— returned. then you have these council elections— returned. then you have these council elections and people are wettmg— council elections and people are wettmg tet— council elections and people are wettmg tee the— council elections and people are voting for the same thing . i voting for the same thing. i the—

voting for the same thing. i mean, the message cannot be any eteetet. tt-e— mean, the message cannot be any eteetet. tt-e ttme— mean, the message cannot be any clearer. it's time to— mean, the message cannot be any clearer. it's time to go back to stetmemt— clearer. it's time to go back to stetmemt tet— clearer. it's time to go back to stormont for the— clearer. it's time to go back to stormont for the assembly for the executive _ stormont for the assembly for the executive ,_ stormont for the assembly for the executive , for the dup to go the executive, for the dup to go heet— the executive, for the dup to go heet .— the executive, for the dup to go heet . het— the executive, for the dup to go heet . het tt-e— the executive, for the dup to go back . but it's up— the executive, for the dup to go back. but it's up to them. the answer doesn't— back. but it's up to them. the answer doesn't lie— back. but it's up to them. the answer doesn't lie with me or emwhetw— answer doesn't lie with me or emwhetw etee— answer doesn't lie with me or anybody else except the dup . anybody else except the dup. they,— anybody else except the dup. thew. thew— anybody else except the dup. they, they weren't happy with the winter— they, they weren't happy with the windsor framework. that's, thet— the windsor framework. that's, thet te— the windsor framework. that's, that is obviously— the windsor framework. that's, that is obviously true. they wemt— that is obviously true. they wemt the— that is obviously true. they want the windsor framework to be ehemget— want the windsor framework to be ehemget egetm— want the windsor framework to be ehemget egetm te— want the windsor framework to be changed again to be renegotiated and changed again to be renegotiated emt emttt— changed again to be renegotiated and until there's— changed again to be renegotiated and until there's some agreement on and until there's some agreement em thet.— and until there's some agreement em thet. tt-e— and until there's some agreement on that, it's not— and until there's some agreement on that, it's not going to heppem— on that, it's not going to heppem . — on that, it's not going to heppem . oh.- on that, it's not going to happen . o" gtit.. on that, it's not going to happen. o" 91.3 on that, it's not going to- happen . oh, golly gosh, john, happen. oh, golly gosh, john, thank you so much. sorry to say that, but i don't want to sound glum about this, but if you're expecting to stormont return in the next few months , uh, don't the next few months, uh, don't hold your breath. oh, so ewewthtmg-e— hold your breath. oh, so everything's on- “cit: oh, so everything's on hold. hold your breath. oh, so- everything's on hold. thanks hold your breath. oh, so everything's on hold. thanks for meeting— everything's on hold. thanks for cheering us up this afternoon, john.thank cheering us up this afternoon, john. thank you. john john. thank you. that's john lafferty, belfast telegraph. lafferty, the belfast telegraph. thank joining lafferty, the belfast telegraph. tha right joining lafferty, the belfast telegraph. tha right you're joining lafferty, the belfast telegraph. tha right you're watchingjoining lafferty, the belfast telegraph. tha right you're watching and ng us. right you're watching and listening to gb news saturday with dawn neesom . lots more with me. dawn neesom. lots more coming on today's show. it's

coming up on today's show. it's the so—called car chase that's made headlines this week, but what's been the outcome of harry and meghan's claims they were chased by a paparazzi in new york this week. but first, let's take a look at the weather . take a look at the weather. hello there. welcome to your gb wewe— hello there. welcome to your gb wewe weethet— hello there. welcome to your gb news weather forecast from the wet— news weather forecast from the met etttee — news weather forecast from the met etttee .— news weather forecast from the met office . i'm— news weather forecast from the met office . i'm craig snell. met office. i'm craig snell. weee— met office. i'm craig snell. weee-teet- met office. i'm craig snell. we're-look at- met office. i'm craig snell.- we're-look at sunday, a we're having a look at sunday, a bit we're having a look at sunday, a hit et— we're having a look at sunday, a hit etlmetth— we're having a look at sunday, a bit oflnorth-split- we're having a look at sunday, a bit oflnorth-split ,- we're having a look at sunday, a bit oflnorth-split , a- bit of a north south split, a het— bit of a north south split, a het-eeme— bit of a north south split, a risk-some rain- bit of a north south split, a risk some rain across risk of some rain across wetthem— risk of some rain across northern ireland and scotland, but northern ireland and scotland, het-eheett- northern ireland and scotland, but-should be- northern ireland and scotland,l but-should be-and but elsewhere should be dry and ttme— but elsewhere should be dry and time. the— but elsewhere should be dry and time. the eee— but elsewhere should be dry and fine. the area of— but elsewhere should be dry and fine. the area of rain is all eeetteew— fine. the area of rain is all eeetteew et— fine. the area of rain is all courtesy of this— fine. the area of rain is all courtesy of this weather front, which—wett- which will gradually work its way— which will gradually work its wew-wetthem- which will gradually work its way northern ireland and way towards northern ireland and seettemt—mext- way towards northern ireland and scotland—next 24- scotland during the next 24 heme— scotland during the next 24 heme-ee— scotland during the next 24 hours-so. but— scotland during the next 24 hours so. but further south, hours or so. but further south, high— hours or so. but further south, high-eemetme- hours or so. but further south,i high-remainslcharge high pressure remains in charge heee.— high pressure remains in charge here. he— high pressure remains in charge here. he getmg— high pressure remains in charge here. it's going to— high pressure remains in charge here. it's going to be a fine eeemt— here. it's going to be a fine second half— here. it's going to be a fine second half-the- here. it's going to be a fine second half the weekend . and second half to the weekend. and so second half to the weekend. and ee—the— second half to the weekend. and ee—the teet— second half to the weekend. and so_the rest of- so going into the rest of setettew.— so going into the rest of saturday, you - so going into the rest of saturday, you can see largely eteet— saturday, you can see largely eteet ettee— saturday, you can see largely clear skies across— saturday, you can see largely clear skies across a chunk clear skies across a good chunk of clear skies across a good chunk et—wetee— clear skies across a good chunk et—wetee .- clear skies across a good chunk et—wetee . het- of england and wales. but tetthet— of england and wales. but further north,— of england and wales. but further north, we see this area of further north, we see this area et-eeett— further north, we see this area of-could-quite- further north, we see this area of could quite heavy of rain could turn quite heavy in of rain could turn quite heavy tm-eepeetettw- of rain could turn quite heavy in especially across the in places, especially across the seettteh—het- in places, especially across the scottish _ but no - scottish mountains. but no ptehteme— scottish mountains. but no problems really— scottish mountains. but no problems really here with temperatures— problems really here with temperatures .— problems really here with temperatures . but further south, temperatures. but further south, eheet—tt- temperatures. but further south, under—it could. under the clear skies, it could tem— under the clear skies, it could tem gette— under the clear skies, it could turn quite chilly— under the clear skies, it could turn quite chilly for the time of_acrossi turn quite chilly for the time. of_across some of year, especially across some preme— of year, especially across some prone—midlands. of year, especially across some. prone—midlands and prone spots of the midlands and wetee— prone spots of the midlands and wetee .— prone spots of the midlands and wetee . het— prone spots of the midlands and wales . but that— prone spots of the midlands and wales . but that will set us up

wales. but that will set us up for wales. but that will set us up tee-ttme— wales. but that will set us up tee-time etew- wales. but that will set us up. for-fine day-many for another fine day across many pewte— for another fine day across many pemeltmgtemt— for another fine day across many parts-england and— for another fine day across many parts england and wales. a parts of england and wales. a ttttte— parts of england and wales. a ttttte hit— parts of england and wales. a ttttte htt et— parts of england and wales. a little bit of cloud— parts of england and wales. a little bit of cloud from time to ttme— little bit of cloud from time to tmee-eee- little bit of cloud from time to time, across eastern time, especially across eastern ete— time, especially across eastern ete .— time, especially across eastern ete . het— time, especially across eastern coasts , but generally the coasts, but generally the theme— coasts, but generally the cloudier-will- coasts, but generally the cloudier will be reserved cloudier skies will be reserved for cloudier skies will be reserved tee-hetemt- for northern ireland and seettemt— for northern ireland and eeettemt .— for northern ireland and scotland . the rain weaken scotland. the rain will weaken as scotland. the rain will weaken ee-tew— scotland. the rain will weaken ee-tew geee— scotland. the rain will weaken ee-tew geee em— scotland. the rain will weaken as day goes on. so hopefully as the day goes on. so hopefully by as the day goes on. so hopefully hw the— as the day goes on. so hopefully hw the emt— as the day goes on. so hopefully hw the emt et— as the day goes on. so hopefully by the end of the— as the day goes on. so hopefully by the end of the afternoon we eeete— by the end of the afternoon we eeete-te— by the end of the afternoon we eeete-te eee— by the end of the afternoon we could -to see some- by the end of the afternoon we could to see some sunshine could start to see some sunshine teweteptmg—etl developing for northern parts of seettemt— developing for northern parts of scotland-maybe— developing for northern parts of scotland maybe also northern scotland and maybe also northern hetemt— scotland and maybe also northern hetemt. het— scotland and maybe also northern ireland. but the— scotland and maybe also northern ireland. but the best of the eemehtme— ireland. but the best of the sunshine will— ireland. but the best of the sunshine will be further south where— sunshine will be further south where we — sunshine will be further south where we will— sunshine will be further south where we will see highs reaching 21 where we will see highs reaching zt et— where we will see highs reaching zt et 22— where we will see highs reaching 21 or 22 degrees— where we will see highs reaching 21 or 22 degrees into the evening — 21 or 22 degrees into the evening. the— 21 or 22 degrees into the evening. the rain will continue to evening. the rain will continue te weeemt— evening. the rain will continue to weaken, still— evening. the rain will continue to weaken, still will leave hehtmt— to weaken, still will leave behind some— to weaken, still will leave behind some cloud across wetthem— behind some cloud across northern ireland and scotland. tetthet— northern ireland and scotland. further south.— northern ireland and scotland. further south. this is where we the— further south. this is where we see the clearest— further south. this is where we see the clearest of— further south. this is where we see the clearest of the sky. so egetm.— see the clearest of the sky. so egetm. we— see the clearest of the sky. so once again, we could turn quite ehtttw— once again, we could turn quite chilly, especially— once again, we could turn quite chilly, especially across parts of chilly, especially across parts et wetee— chilly, especially across parts of wales and _ chilly, especially across parts of wales and into the midlands. but of wales and into the midlands. het ewewett— of wales and into the midlands. but overall, as— of wales and into the midlands. but overall, as we— of wales and into the midlands. but overall, as we start monday memtmg— but overall, as we start monday memtmg. we— but overall, as we start monday morning, we start— but overall, as we start monday morning, we start on a fairly getet— morning, we start on a fairly getet mete— morning, we start on a fairly quiet note across— morning, we start on a fairly quiet note across the country. we— quiet note across the country. we etttt— quiet note across the country. we etttt hemg— quiet note across the country. we still hang on— quiet note across the country. we still hang on to some cloud across eastern— we still hang on to some cloud across eastern scotland, but it witt— across eastern scotland, but it wttt tmptewe— across eastern scotland, but it will improve here— across eastern scotland, but it will improve here as the day geee— will improve here as the day geee em— will improve here as the day geee em emt— will improve here as the day goes on and generally the best of goes on and generally the best et-eemehtme— goes on and generally the best of-sunshine will- goes on and generally the best of sunshine will be further of the sunshine will be further eeeth — of the sunshine will be further eeeth emt— of the sunshine will be further south and _you - of the sunshine will be further south and _you are- of the sunshine will be further south and you are and as south and west. you are and as we ge— south and west. you are and as we ge tmte— south and west. you are and as we go into tuesday— south and west. you are and as we go into tuesday and wednesday

.lwew— we go into tuesday and wednesday .lwew-ehemgee— we go into tuesday and wednesday ,lvery-changes across- , a very little changes across the— , a very little changes across the eeemtw— , a very little changes across the country, largely dry and eemmw— the country, largely dry and eemmw tet— the country, largely dry and eemmw tee e— the country, largely dry and sunny for a lot— the country, largely dry and sunny for a lot of the uk and in the eemehtme— sunny for a lot of the uk and in the sunshine it— sunny for a lot of the uk and in the sunshine it will— sunny for a lot of the uk and in the sunshine it will feel pteeeemttw— the sunshine it will feel pleasantly warm for the time of year—

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diaries . you're up to date on tv diaries. you're up to date on tv onune diaries. you're up to date on tv online dab+ radio and on tune in. this is gb news. now it's back to dawn . back to dawn. thank you, bethany . welcome back thank you, bethany. welcome back to gb thank you, bethany. welcome back te eh wewe— thank you, bethany. welcome back to gb news saturday— thank you, bethany. welcome back to gb news saturday with- welcome back to gb news saturday with me. hewm— to gb news saturday with me. hewm weeem— to gb news saturday with me. dawn neesom on— to gb news saturday with me. dawn neesom on your tv online emt— dawn neesom on your tv online emt amttett— dawn neesom on your tv online and android digital radio . for and android digital radio. for memw— and android digital radio. for memw et— and android digital radio. for memw et ee— and android digital radio. for many of us relatives , final many of us relatives, final teettmg— many of us relatives, final teettmg pteee— many of us relatives, final resting place holds a very epeetet— resting place holds a very special place— resting place holds a very special place in our hearts . the special place in our hearts. the teet— special place in our hearts. the teet phweteet— special place in our hearts. the last physical reminder that they extetet— last physical reminder that they extetet emt— last physical reminder that they existed and were— last physical reminder that they existed and were loved. but what can existed and were loved. but what wee— existed and were loved. but what wee te— existed and were loved. but what wee te whem— existed and were loved. but what can you do when distance or heetth— can you do when distance or health means— can you do when distance or health means you're no longer ehte— health means you're no longer ehte te— health means you're no longer ehte te eee— health means you're no longer able to care for— health means you're no longer able to care for their grave ? able to care for their grave? eet— able to care for their grave? our south—east— able to care for their grave? our south—east of england tepettet— our south—east of england tepettet ttew— our south—east of england reporter ray addison finds out tet— reporter ray addison finds out more for us. it's— reporter ray addison finds out more for us. . more for us. it's only me. just pottering . meet amanda more for us. . 3 meet amanda paddock pottering. meet amanda paddock at pottering. meet amanda paddock et he.— pottering. meet amanda paddock et he. ehe— pottering. meet amanda paddock at 58, she ended— pottering. meet amanda paddock at 58, she ended her— 3 meet amanda paddock at 58, she ended her career metetmg— at 58, she ended her career metetmg the— at 58, she ended her career nursing the living and started

eehmg— nursing the living and started eehmg tet— nursing the living and started caring for the— nursing the living and started caring for the dead as a grave teee t— caring for the dead as a grave teee t we— caring for the dead as a grave cleaner. i was an— caring for the dead as a grave cleaner. t?" cleaner. i was an intensive care nurse at and during covid questioned my ability to carry on. i was exhausted and to think about what i wanted to do. i used to go up to the local cemetery and i was watching people trying to look after their headstones and graves and, you know, most of them are mature ladies who really struggle . amanda now looks after struggle. amanda now looks after me— struggle. amanda now looks after gtewee— struggle. amanda now looks after gtewee tm— 33 amanda now looks after nine graves in horsham , offering nine graves in horsham, offering ewewthtmg— nine graves in horsham, offering ewewthtmg mem — nine graves in horsham, offering everything from anniversary wette— everything from anniversary wette te— everything from anniversary visits to weekly— everything from anniversary visits to weekly cleaning . visits to weekly cleaning. jane ctett— visits to weekly cleaning. jane ctett hteee— visits to weekly cleaning. jane clark hired her— visits to weekly cleaning. jane clark hired her when she needed help tending the grave of her father in law. i know a lot of peepte— father in law. i know a lot of peepte teet— father in law. i know a lot of people feel that— father in law. i know a lot of people feel that they- .. i know a lot of people feel that they have to wet— people feel that they have to wet e— people feel that they have to wet e gtewe— people feel that they have to visit a grave and— people feel that they have to visit a grave and other people teet— visit a grave and other people heet-ehee— visit a grave and other peoplei feel-once-passed feel that once person's passed ewew— feel that once person's passed ewew .— feel that once person's passed ewew . thew-re — feel that once person's passed away , they're not. "tip chit" . away, they're not. they don't really to go back to really want to go back to that time back grave . so time and back to the grave. so it's really having somebody it's really nice having somebody that and look after it that will go and look after it for you when you get to see the before and it looks really sad and needs a lot of work and then you see after and it

you get to see the after and it looks much better, especially looks so much better, especially after 23 years when she cleaned the headstone . it was just the headstone. it was just amazing. just looked it amazing. it just looked like it had put there had just recently been put there . although still largely although still largely unknown . although still largely unknown . preteeetemet— although still largely unknown , professional grave cleaning hee— , professional grave cleaning hee heem— , professional grave cleaning has been around— , professional grave cleaning has been around for years. a teeete— has been around for years. a teeete ege— has been around for years. a teeete ege .— has been around for years. a decade ago , author martin knight decade ago, author martin knight teemehet— decade ago, author martin knight launched grave— decade ago, author martin knight launched grave care international and now has hemttete— international and now has hundreds of— international and now has hundreds of clients based around the wemt. — hundreds of clients based around the wemt. t— hundreds of clients based around the world. i like— hundreds of clients based around the world. . g: the world. i like graveyards. i've always liked graveyards. i'm very curious and i find them really interesting and it always made me a bit sad to see even relatively recent graves not being tended. people will move their area. they even move eheet— their area. they even move ehteet emt— their area. they even move abroad and they— e 3111? they even move abroad and they become infirm . abroad and they become infirm. so abroad and they become infirm. se t— abroad and they become infirm. se t het— abroad and they become infirm. se t het tt— abroad and they become infirm. se t het tt m— abroad and they become infirm. so i had it in my— abroad and they become infirm. so i had it in my mind- abroad and they become infirm. so i had it in my mind for- abroad and they become infirm. so i had it in my mind for some years to start up a grave cleaning business for 200 to £300 a year. martin's team will wett— £300 a year. martin's team will wett weee— £300 a year. martin's team will visit your relatives— 171500 martin's team will visit your relatives grave every three— visit your relatives grave every three months,— visit your relatives grave every three months, where they'll cut the geee— three months, where they'll cut the geee emt— three months, where they'll cut the grass and lay— three months, where they'll cut the grass and lay flowers and eteem— the grass and lay flowers and them emt— the grass and lay flowers and clean and polish— the grass and lay flowers and clean and polish the headstone. t hey— clean and polish the headstone. thew ehee— clean and polish the headstone. thew etee hete— clean and polish the headstone. they also have a— clean and polish the headstone. they also have a number of eetehhtw— they also have a number of celebrity clients— they also have a number of celebrity clients , including celebrity clients, including hermet— celebrity clients, including former politician and widdecombe. " former politician and widdecombe. .. tit.t: former politician and- widdecombe. in the old days,

generations used to tend the family grave because they still lived near my parents were buned lived near my parents were buried somewhere where i used to live, but now i'm 200 miles away in devon climbing. i feel that the grave is cared for. i also feel that, you know, i'm doing the right thing by the church and, you know, so that people don't walk through tatty graveyards. although don't walk through tatty graveyards . although amanda graveyards. although amanda tetteet— graveyards. although amanda tetteet te— graveyards. although amanda paddock is new— graveyards. although amanda paddock is new to— 3: although amanda paddock is new to the business, ehe— paddock is new to the business, ehe eewe— paddock is new to the business, ehe eewe ehe— paddock is new to the business, she says she has— paddock is new to the business, she says she has no plans to gett— she says she has no plans to gett emt— she says she has no plans to quit and feels— she says she has no plans to quit and feels at— she says she has no plans to quit and feels at home among the temhetemee— quit and feels at home among the temhetemee. — quit and feels at home among the temhetemee . t— quit and feels at home among the tombstones . i will— quit and feels at home among the tombstones . .. t:tit . .. . tombstones. i will do it until i can't do it anymore. i just, you know , i've put on if i can still know, i've put on if i can still bend down to do the plots at 70 plus, then i shall carry on doing it because it's just so peaceful, so relaxing . ray peaceful, so relaxing. ray addison gb news. - i 3 ray addison gb news. o" oh, peaceful, so relaxing. ray- addison gb news. oh. oh, thank you,— addison gb news. oh. oh, thank yout ttew— addison gb news. oh. oh, thank wee. ttew. wett— addison gb news. oh. oh, thank you, ray. well, what— addison gb news. o" oh, thank you, ray. well, what a sad but etee— you, ray. well, what a sad but etee heppw— you, ray. well, what a sad but also happy story— you, ray. well, what a sad but also happy story -_ you, ray. well, what a sad but also happy story. but you, ray. well, what a sad but also happy story . but let you, ray. well, what a sad but also happy story. but let us thew— also happy story. but let us thew whet— also happy story. but let us know what you— also happy story. but let us know what you think about some of know what you think about some et theee— know what you think about some of these stories— know what you think about some of these stories we _ know what you think about some of these stories we are covering tetew— of these stories we are covering tetew. a— of these stories we are covering today. a gbviews@gbnews.uk is whet— today. a gbviews@gbnews.uk is whet wee— today. a gbviews@gbnews.uk is whet wee meet— today. a gbviews@gbnews.uk is what you need to— today. a gbviews@gbnews.uk is what you need to get in touch with— what you need to get in touch with — what you need to get in touch with amt— what you need to get in touch with us. and it's— what you need to get in touch with us. and it's all about what you— with us. and it's all about what wee thtmt. — with us. and it's all about what wee thtmt. wet— with us. and it's all about what you think. not really we you think. not really what we

thtmh— you think. not really what we think,-think. - you think. not really what we think,-think. .tet| you think. not really what we. think,-think..let us think, what you think. so let us thew.— think, what you think. so let us thew-teeth- think, what you think. so let us know.-touch right- think, what you think. so let us know. touch right now. know. do get in touch right now. we know. do get in touch right now. we—hetmg- know. do get in touch right now. we_being reportedj we move on. it's being reported thet— we move on. it's being reported thet the— we move on. it's being reported thet the hete— we move on. it's being reported that the duke and— we move on. it's being reported that the duke and duchess of seeee— that the duke and duchess of seeee hewe— that the duke and duchess of sussex have demanded a celebrity phete— sussex have demanded a celebrity phete egemew— sussex have demanded a celebrity phete egemew heme— sussex have demanded a celebrity photo agency hand over the tmegee— photo agency hand over the images taken— photo agency hand over the images taken during what the eeepte— images taken during what the eeepte eew— images taken during what the eeepte eew wee— images taken during what the couple say was a— images taken during what the couple say was a near catastrophic- couple say was a near catastrophic chase with a ring of catastrophic chase with a ring et htghtw— catastrophic chase with a ring of highly aggressive paparazzi in of highly aggressive paparazzi tm wew— of highly aggressive paparazzi tm wew vett— of highly aggressive paparazzi in new york this— of highly aggressive paparazzi in new york this week . so how in new york this week. so how hee— in new york this week. so how hee thie— in new york this week. so how has this affected— in new york this week. so how has this affected brand harry emt— has this affected brand harry emt tteghem— has this affected brand harry and meghan and has it affected the royal— and meghan and has it affected the royal family's— and meghan and has it affected the royal family's reputation heret— the royal family's reputation here? new.— the royal family's reputation here? now, joining me, i'm very pteeeet— here? now, joining me, i'm very pteeeet te— here? now, joining me, i'm very pteeeet te eew.— here? now, joining me, i'm very pleased to say, is— here? now, joining me, i'm very pleased to say, is expert on all mettete— pleased to say, is expert on all mettete ewew— pleased to say, is expert on all matters royal, a— pleased to say, is expert on all matters royal, a royal commentator , jennie bond. matters royal, a royal— commentator , jennie bond. lovely commentator, jennie bond. lovely to commentator, jennie bond. lovely te eee— commentator, jennie bond. lovely te wee.— commentator, jennie bond. lovely te wee. wemte— commentator, jennie bond. lovely to see you, jennie .— commentator, jennie bond. lovely to see you, jennie . thank you to see you, jennie. thank you for to see you, jennie. thank you te-ee — to see you, jennie. thank you te-ee new.- to see you, jennie. thank you te-ee wew. t- to see you, jennie. thank you for-us. now, i did- forjoining us. now, i did mettee— forjoining us. now, i did notice that— forjoining us. now, i did notice that you were posting ptetetee— notice that you were posting pictures from _ notice that you were posting pictures from your lovely sunny gettem— pictures from your lovely sunny garden-morning.- pictures from your lovely sunny garden morning. hope garden this morning. i do hope you— garden this morning. i do hope wee-ttetemtmg— garden this morning. i do hope you-listening to- garden this morning. i do hope you listening to gb news on garden this morning. i do hope you radio, listening to gb news on garden this morning. i do hope you radio, though] to gb news on garden this morning. i do hope you radio, though . i gb news on garden this morning. i do hope you radio, though . wtit news on garden this morning. i do hope you radio, though . wtit iews on garden this morning. i do hope you radio, though . wtit .i the radio, though. no, i wasn't .te— the radio, though. no, i wasn't .te tett— the radio, though. no, i wasn't , to tell you the truth. no, i was i was enjoying- , to tell you the truth. no, i was i was enjoying a- no, i was i was enjoying a bit of peeee— was i was enjoying a bit of peeee emt— was i was enjoying a bit of peace and quiet after a very, wew— peace and quiet after a very, wetw heew— peace and quiet after a very, wetw heew week— peace and quiet after a very, very busy week because of all thet-e— very busy week because of all that's happened— very busy week because of all that's happened to harry and tteghem. — that's happened to harry and tteghem. amt— that's happened to harry and meghan. and indeed , i'd like to meghan. and indeed, i'd like to i'd meghan. and indeed, i'd like to he the— meghan. and indeed, i'd like to he the te— meghan. and indeed, i'd like to i'd like to start— meghan. and indeed, i'd like to i'd like to start by— meghan. and indeed, i'd like to i'd like to start by saying i'm teettw— i'd like to start by saying i'm teettw eemw— i'd like to start by saying i'm really sorry that— i'd like to start by saying i'm really sorry that they they were peteeet — really sorry that they they were peteeet tm— really sorry that they they were peteeet tm e— really sorry that they they were pursued in a way— really sorry that they they were pursued in a way that they found ttetteeetmg—

pursued in a way that they found distressing. whatever the truth. i'm distressing. whatever the truth. t-m eemw— distressing. whatever the truth. t-m eemw. thew-we— distressing. whatever the truth. i'm sorry. they've been through thet.— i'm sorry. they've been through thet. het— i'm sorry. they've been through that. but unfortunately, the teeth— that. but unfortunately, the teeth te— that. but unfortunately, the truth is proving— that. but unfortunately, the truth is proving very hard to get— truth is proving very hard to get et— truth is proving very hard to get et emt— truth is proving very hard to get at and the— truth is proving very hard to get at and the picture agency whe— get at and the picture agency whe emptewet— get at and the picture agency who employed the paparazzi, who peteeet— who employed the paparazzi, who peteeet them— who employed the paparazzi, who pursued them are— who employed the paparazzi, who pursued them are playing hetthett— pursued them are playing hetthett .— pursued them are playing hardball . they really are. they hardball. they really are. they are hardball. they really are. they tetttmg— hardball. they really are. they are talking back— hardball. they really are. they are talking back to the duke and heeheee— are talking back to the duke and heeheee tm— are talking back to the duke and heeheee tm e— are talking back to the duke and duchess in a way— are talking back to the duke and duchess in a way that you would not duchess in a way that you would met expect— duchess in a way that you would met expeet ewew— duchess in a way that you would not expect over here. i mean, heetghet— not expect over here. i mean, heetght. the — not expect over here. i mean, backgrid, the agency has said, no, we're not going to give theee— no, we're not going to give those pictures— no, we're not going to give those pictures back. no, i mean , those pictures back. no, i mean .weet— those pictures back. no, i mean .weet ttmgtw— those pictures back. no, i mean , your kingly wave _ those pictures back. no, i mean , your kingly ways. don't work in , your kingly ways. don't work he the— , your kingly ways. don't work in the united— , your kingly ways. don't work in the united states. weren't you— in the united states. weren't you aware that— in the united states. weren't you aware that in the united stetee.— you aware that in the united stetee. the— you aware that in the united states, the person who owns the property— states, the person who owns the ptepettw ewe— states, the person who owns the ptepettw the— states, the person who owns the property owns the property, you eem-t—theml can't suddenly demand them back. so can't suddenly demand them back. se-heem— can't suddenly demand them back. se-heem tete— can't suddenly demand them back. so-been told in— can't suddenly demand them back. so-been told in no- so they've been told in no emeettetm— so they've been told in no uncertain terms- so they've been told in no uncertain terms that the demand will uncertain terms that the demand wttt met— uncertain terms that the demand wttt met he— uncertain terms that the demand will not be adhered to. is there i will not be adhered to. is there t meem— will not be adhered to. is there i mean, we all— will not be adhered to. is there i mean, we all know that harry in i mean, we all know that harry tm pettteetet— i mean, we all know that harry in particular seems to be quite a in particular seems to be quite e htg— in particular seems to be quite e htg tem— in particular seems to be quite e htg tem et— in particular seems to be quite a big fan of litigation. is there— a big fan of litigation. is there te— a big fan of litigation. is there is there— a big fan of litigation. is there is there any- a big fan of litigation. is there is there any sign that they might be taking legal action over what happened this week ? well, they may well, they week? well, they may well, they thew— week? well, they may well, they thew — week? well, they may well, they thew wew— 7 well, they may well, they they are very litigious indeed. so they are very litigious indeed. se the— they are very litigious indeed. se the meet— they are very litigious indeed. so the next step,— they are very litigious indeed. so the next step, i mean, a tewwet— so the next step, i mean, a lawyer issued _ so the next step, i mean, a lawyer issued the demand for the

phetee— lawyer issued the demand for the phetee te— lawyer issued the demand for the phetee te me— lawyer issued the demand for the photos to come back to them or be photos to come back to them or he gtwem— photos to come back to them or he gwem te— photos to come back to them or be given to them.— photos to come back to them or be given to them. so yes, that eeete— be given to them. so yes, that eeete wett— be given to them. so yes, that could well be— be given to them. so yes, that could well be the— be given to them. so yes, that could well be the case. as you thew.— could well be the case. as you mew. mew— could well be the case. as you mew. mew te— could well be the case. as you know, harry is already involved in know, harry is already involved tm et— know, harry is already involved tm et teeet— know, harry is already involved in at least four— know, harry is already involved in at least four cases over here.— in at least four cases over here. et— in at least four cases over here, one of which is against the— here, one of which is against the heme— here, one of which is against the home office— here, one of which is against the home office about the level of the home office about the level et hte— the home office about the level of his security— the home office about the level of his security .— the home office about the level of his security . but what people of his security. but what people meet— of his security. but what people meet te— of his security. but what people meet te eeet— of his security. but what people need to sort of— of his security. but what people need to sort of recognise pethepe— need to sort of recognise pethepe te— need to sort of recognise perhaps is that there is a royal tete— perhaps is that there is a royal tete ewetem— perhaps is that there is a royal rota system in— perhaps is that there is a royal rota system in in— perhaps is that there is a royal rota system in in this country . rota system in in this country. amt— rota system in in this country. amt emtet— rota system in in this country. and under that— rota system in in this country. and under that press are given access to royal— and under that press are given access to royal engaged agents emt— access to royal engaged agents emt tm— access to royal engaged agents emt tm etem— access to royal engaged agents and in return since the days of heme— and in return since the days of hteme whem— and in return since the days of diana when things were really bad— diana when things were really het. whem— diana when things were really het. when t— diana when things were really bad, when i was— diana when things were really bad, when i was reporting for the— bad, when i was reporting for the hec— bad, when i was reporting for the the emt— bad, when i was reporting for the bbc and things were bad etmee— the bbc and things were bad them— the bbc and things were bad since then there— the bbc and things were bad since then there has been very ttttetemt— since then there has been very different rules— since then there has been very different rules of— since then there has been very different rules of engagement. amt— different rules of engagement. amt tt— different rules of engagement. amt tt wee— different rules of engagement. and if you breach— different rules of engagement. and if you breach those rules which— and if you breach those rules which eew— and if you breach those rules which say that— and if you breach those rules which say that there must be no tmttmttettep— which say that there must be no intimidation, no— which say that there must be no intimidation, no harassment , no intimidation, no harassment, no petetetemt— intimidation, no harassment, no persistent pursuit— intimidation, no harassment, no persistent pursuit by journalists- persistent pursuit by journalists or paparazzi, but by theme— journalists or paparazzi, but by ieemet tete— journalists or paparazzi, but by journal ists and— journalists or paparazzi, but by journal ists and official photographers. if you breach theee— photographers. if you breach those rules,— photographers. if you breach those rules, then you get kicked off those rules, then you get kicked ett the— those rules, then you get kicked ett the tewet— those rules, then you get kicked off the royal rota— those rules, then you get kicked off the royal rota and you won't get te— off the royal rota and you won't get te ge— off the royal rota and you won't get te ge te— off the royal rota and you won't get te ge te emw— off the royal rota and you won't get to go to any engagements and it's get to go to any engagements and tt-e-thet— get to go to any engagements and tt-e-thet ewte - get to go to any engagements and it's-that works. but-

it's a system that works. but harry— it's a system that works. but heew-weghem- it's a system that works. but harry meghan no longer harry and meghan are no longer part— harry and meghan are no longer pert-ehweeetw- harry and meghan are no longer part-obviouslyiand. part of that. obviously and the tetet— part of that. obviously and the tetee wew— part of that. obviously and the rules are very different in america and sort of like, you know, as someone that's worked on newspapers all my all my career, including covering the penod career, including covering the period with period you're talking about with princess made princess diana, it never made sense to me for harry and meghan to leave a country where the press, certainly after leveson , press, certainly after leveson, are very regulated. and as you mentioned, jenny, the royal rota appues mentioned, jenny, the royal rota applies and you know, you don't want to get thrown off that because important for want to get thrown off that btroyala important for want to get thrown off that btroyal coverage important for want to get thrown off that btroyal coverage t01portant for want to get thrown off that btroyal coverage to move nt for a royal coverage to move to a country where none of those rules are pretty rules apply. and you are pretty much . do you think rules apply. and you are pretty much and . do you think rules apply. and you are pretty much and meghan)o you think rules apply. and you are pretty much and meghan are ou think rules apply. and you are pretty much and meghan are goingik rules apply. and you are pretty much and meghan are going to harry and meghan are going to end up regretting what they've done ? well, you would think so, done? well, you would think so, yes .— done? well, you would think so, wee . heee— done? well, you would think so, yes , because they— 37 well, you would think so, yes , because they have moved to yes, because they have moved to cetehhtw— yes, because they have moved to cetehhtw cttw— yes, because they have moved to celebrity city, haven't they ? la celebrity city, haven't they? la or celebrity city, haven't they? la et the— celebrity city, haven't they? la or the outskirts— celebrity city, haven't they? la or the outskirts of— celebrity city, haven't they? la or the outskirts of la , or the outskirts of la, ehweeetw— or the outskirts of la, obviously ,- or the outskirts of la, obviously , the paparazzi, that obviously, the paparazzi, that is obviously, the paparazzi, that te pepetezzt— obviously, the paparazzi, that is paparazzi civil. so it teeem-t— is paparazzi civil. so it doesn't make- is paparazzi civil. so it doesn't make any sense. they've thew-we— doesn't make any sense. they've thew-we iempet— doesn't make any sense. they've they've jumped out— doesn't make any sense. they've they've jumped out of the frying pan they've jumped out of the frying pem tmte— they've jumped out of the frying pem tmte the— they've jumped out of the frying pan into the fire,— they've jumped out of the frying pan into the fire, it would het— pan into the fire, it would seem. but they- pan into the fire, it would seem. but they they have to make a seem. but they they have to make e ehetee— seem. but they they have to make eehetee. hew— seem. but they they have to make a choice. how are— seem. but they they have to make a choice. how are they going to seem. but they they have to make a cahead?iow are they going to seem. but they they have to make a cahead?iow ttheyiey going to seem. but they they have to make a cahead?iow tthey just|oing to seem. but they they have to make a cahead?iow they just goingo seem. but they they have to make a cahead?iow they just going to go ahead? are they just going to teep— go ahead? are they just going to teep-ptettte— go ahead? are they just going to keep-profile-have- keep a low profile and have a wew— keep a low profile and have a wetw getet— keep a low profile and have a wetw getet the— keep a low profile and have a very quiet life ?_ keep a low profile and have a very quiet life ? they very quiet life? what they

meem-t— very quiet life? what they meem-t..— very quiet life? what they mustn't., in- very quiet life? what they mustn't., in my- very quiet life? what they mustn't , in my view, is to mustn't do, in my view, is to get— mustn't do, in my view, is to get emgeget— mustn't do, in my view, is to get emgeget tm— mustn't do, in my view, is to get emgeget tm e— mustn't do, in my view, is to get engaged in a pursuit or car theee— get engaged in a pursuit or car chase, wherever— get engaged in a pursuit or car chase, wherever we're going to ten— chase, wherever we're going to eett it.— chase, wherever we're going to eett tt. thet— chase, wherever we're going to call it. that surely— chase, wherever we're going to call it. that surely must be the teet— call it. that surely must be the teet thtmg— call it. that surely must be the teet thtmg thew— call it. that surely must be the last thing they must do late at might— last thing they must do late at mtght tm— last thing they must do late at mtght tm wew— last thing they must do late at night in new york. i mean, stay where— night in new york. i mean, stay where wee— night in new york. i mean, stay where wee — night in new york. i mean, stay where you are. ask— night in new york. i mean, stay where you are. ask the police to interview.— where you are. ask the police to tmtewtew. tmt— where you are. ask the police to interview. and eventually they gtwem— interview. and eventually they gtwem em— interview. and eventually they were given an escort back to where— were given an escort back to where thew— were given an escort back to where they wanted to go by the petite. — where they wanted to go by the petite. amt — where they wanted to go by the petite amt tt— where they wanted to go by the police. and it worked out. but the— police. and it worked out. but the teet— police. and it worked out. but the last thing— police. and it worked out. but the last thing that harry pettteetettw— the last thing that harry particularly needs to do is get tmwetwet— particularly needs to do is get tmwetwet tm— particularly needs to do is get involved in a— particularly needs to do is get involved in a car— particularly needs to do is get involved in a car chase. i can't emtetetemt— involved in a car chase. i can't understand how— involved in a car chase. i can't understand how that happened. and understand how that happened. amt ee— understand how that happened. amt ee tet— understand how that happened. amt ee tee ee— understand how that happened. and as far as we're aware, jennife— and as far as we're aware, eemmw. metthet— and as far as we're aware, jenny, neither either king chettee— jenny, neither either king charles nor— jenny, neither either king charles nor nor prince william hete— charles nor nor prince william hewe heem— charles nor nor prince william hewe heem tm— charles nor nor prince william have been in contact with harry thte. — have been in contact with harry over this. what— have been in contact with harry over this. what do— have been in contact with harry over this. �*ft�*itit. t:tit have been in contact with harry over this. t:tit over this. what do you make of that situation ? well, if it's that situation? well, if it's true that situation? well, if it's ttee emt— that situation? well, if it's true and none— that situation? well, if it's true and none of- that situation? well, if it's true and none of us- tit“7 well, if it's true and none of us knows if he— true and none of us knows if he tree.— true and none of us knows if he tree. we— true and none of us knows if it's true, we just— true and none of us knows if it's true, we just don't know whether— it's true, we just don't know whether charles— it's true, we just don't know whether charles in particular hee— whether charles in particular hee ptetet— whether charles in particular hee ptetet ep— whether charles in particular has picked up phone his has picked up the phone to his son—william- son. i don't think william weett— son. i don't think william weett. het— son. i don't think william would. but what they going would. but what are they going to would. but what are they going te-e— would. but what are they going tent-tm— would. but what are they going te-e-t-m teettw- to say? look, i'm really sorry the— to say? look, i'm really sorry this-happened,- to say? look, i'm really sorry this happened, but i this has happened, but i told you— this has happened, but i told woul— this has happened, but i told we. thet-e— this has happened, but i told you . that's always say that, you so. that's always say that, theegh— you so. that's always say that, theegh. tem-t— you so. that's always say that, though, don't they— you so. that's always say that, though, don't they ? yeah. yeah, though, don't they? yeah. yeah, but .—

though, don't they? yeah. yeah, het . wee— though, don't they? yeah. yeah, het . wee thew.— though, don't they? yeah. yeah, but , you know, the rift is very but, you know, the rift is very teep. — but, you know, the rift is very teep. het— but, you know, the rift is very teep. het we— but, you know, the rift is very deep. but we don't know. it's wew— deep. but we don't know. it's wew eet— deep. but we don't know. it's wew eet tt— deep. but we don't know. it's very sad if charles actually eem-t— very sad if charles actually eem-t he— very sad if charles actually can't be the— very sad if charles actually can't be the bigger man, pethepe.— can't be the bigger man, pethepe. tmt— can't be the bigger man, perhaps. and pick up the phone to perhaps. and pick up the phone te hte— perhaps. and pick up the phone te hte eem— perhaps. and pick up the phone to his son and— perhaps. and pick up the phone to his son and say,— perhaps. and pick up the phone to his son and say, look, this hee— to his son and say, look, this hee heem— to his son and say, look, this has been distressing for you. are— has been distressing for you. are wee— has been distressing for you. the wee okay?— has been distressing for you. are you okay? and look, maybe he has are you okay? and look, maybe he hee .— are you okay? and look, maybe he hee . we— are you okay? and look, maybe he hee . we teet— are you okay? and look, maybe he has . we just don't— are you okay? and look, maybe he has . we just don't and has. we just don't know. and hete— has. we just don't know. and hewe wee— has. we just don't know. and have you been— has. we just don't know. and have you been surprised? ' ti; have you been surprised? arnie ope— have you been surprised? arnie one thet— have you been surprised? arnie one final question. have you been surprised by the reaction to this story ? i mean, was it to this story? i mean, was it the way amid scobie, who i can never quite work out, is there an official spokesman or not put the statement out about the near catastrophic pick. the language was very or rhetoric was was very or the rhetoric was very wasn't it ? very inflammatory, wasn't it? have you been surprised about the reaction on both sides in america and here to sort of like the levels of disbelief this story has generated ? well, yeah. story has generated? well, yeah. i mean, it story has generated? well, yeah. t it we— story has generated? well, yeah. i mean, it was going— story has generated? well, yeah. i mean, it was going to- 5.03 gti37 well, yeah. i mean, it was going to be a big etew— i mean, it was going to be a big etew ee— i mean, it was going to be a big etetw ee eeem— i mean, it was going to be a big etetw ee ee— i mean, it was going to be a big story as soon as i— i mean, it was going to be a big story as soon as i saw the flash on story as soon as i saw the flash em mw— story as soon as i saw the flash em mw pheme— story as soon as i saw the flash on my phone saying near catastrophic— on my phone saying near catastrophic car chase . i mean, catastrophic car chase. i mean, wee— catastrophic car chase. i mean, wee thew.— catastrophic car chase. i mean, wee tmew. tt— catastrophic car chase. i mean, wee tmew. it we— catastrophic car chase. i mean, you know, it was going to be a mete— you know, it was going to be a meie etew— you know, it was going to be a meie etew. the— you know, it was going to be a major story. the trouble with the— major story. the trouble with the teet— major story. the trouble with the fact that— major story. the trouble with the fact that wreck recollections clearly vary about

whet— recollections clearly vary about whet wemt— recollections clearly vary about whet wemt em — recollections clearly vary about what went on the— recollections clearly vary about what went on the trouble with thet— what went on the trouble with thet te— what went on the trouble with thet te thet— what went on the trouble with that is that it— what went on the trouble with that is that it is— what went on the trouble with that is that it is reignited the whete— that is that it is reignited the whole debate— that is that it is reignited the whole debate about whether harry and whole debate about whether harry emt tteghem— whole debate about whether harry emt tteghem eee— whole debate about whether harry and meghan see the world in a ttttetemt— and meghan see the world in a ttttetemt wew. — and meghan see the world in a different way. to— and meghan see the world in a different way. to many of the teet— different way. to many of the eeet et— different way. to many of the eeet et — different way. to many of the rest of us, whether they see tmeette— rest of us, whether they see tmeette emt— rest of us, whether they see insults and offence where pethepe— insults and offence where pethepe tt— insults and offence where perhaps it doesn't exist or at teeet— perhaps it doesn't exist or at teeet tem-t— perhaps it doesn't exist or at least isn't intended, whether thew— least isn't intended, whether thew eteggetete — least isn't intended, whether they exaggerate things . and they exaggerate things. and thet-e— they exaggerate things. and thet-e whet— they exaggerate things. and that's what the— they exaggerate things. and that's what the debate has been eheet. — that's what the debate has been eheet. tmt— that's what the debate has been eheet. amt ee— that's what the debate has been about. and as it— that's what the debate has been about. and as it stands, we tem-t— about. and as it stands, we tem-t teettw— about. and as it stands, we don't really know the answer. het— don't really know the answer. het we— don't really know the answer. het we te— don't really know the answer. but we do know— don't really know the answer. but we do know that whatever heppemet— but we do know that whatever heppemet tm— but we do know that whatever happened in new— but we do know that whatever happened in new york was very epeetttmg— happened in new york was very epeetttmg tet— happened in new york was very upsetting for them. and they've got upsetting for them. and they've get te — upsetting for them. and they've get te tmt— upsetting for them. and they've get te ttmt e— upsetting for them. and they've got to find a way— upsetting for them. and they've got to find a way for that not to got to find a way for that not te he— got to find a way for that not to be repeated— got to find a way for that not to be repeated .— got to find a way for that not to be repeated . yeah. wtit to be repeated. yeah. no, eheetetetw. — to be repeated. yeah. no, absolutely. thank you very much for joining us this afternoon . for joining us this afternoon. jenny, back to your garden now. and with the radio on obviously right . you are watching and right. you are watching and indeed listening to gb news saturday me, dawn neesom. saturday with me, dawn neesom. lots more coming up on today's show, including a dutch police saying they've still haven't made any arrests after thursday's shocking scenes at the west ham az alkmaar match. all of that after these messages

on gb news the people's channel. hhtetm— on gb news the people's channel. hhtetm te— on gb news the people's channel. britain is watching— on gb news the people's channel. britain is watching .— on gb news the people's channel. britain is watching . welcome britain is watching. welcome heet— britain is watching. welcome heet . — britain is watching. welcome heet. et— britain is watching. welcome back. gb news— britain is watching. welcome back . [15 w 1:3; britain is watching. welcome- back . gb news saturday with me back. gb news saturday with me dawn neesom on your tv, online and on digital radio now. dutch police say they've still not made any arrests after thursday's shocking scenes in the match between west ham and az. alkmaar a group of dutch fans , we can see them here, fans, we can see them here, reacted angrily to the hammers. one nil win a 2—0 win actually scaling the staircases and confronting visitors in an area reserved for friends and family . shocking scenes there as you can see. stewards and security not appearing to do much at all. now the group smashed down the barriers to storm the main stand, but their paths were blocked by west ham hardman with two seeing there not. hardman is a 58 year old, 58 year old dad of four and a hip replacement last anyway seeing off all last year. anyway seeing off all this is what west ham do, seeing

off comers. now joining me off all comers. now joining me now broadcaster and now is sports broadcaster and writer aidan magee to explain what what this situation actually means for football. i mean, they were horrible scenes. i mean, we should explain that the stand that the ultras and i'm putting that in inverted commas were trying to get to was a stand containing west ham players, fans , ulez and friends. players, fans, ulez and friends. so they were mainly women, children and older people . it's children and older people. it's the official area that would hete— the official area that would have sectioned— the official area that would have sectioned off when they go overseas. so most— have sectioned off when they go overseas. so most clubs would do thet— overseas. so most clubs would do thet tm— overseas. so most clubs would do that in common— overseas. so most clubs would do that in common with— overseas. so most clubs would do that in common with european tripe.— that in common with european thpe. thet-e— that in common with european trips. that's the— that in common with european trips. that's the kind of pteteeet— trips. that's the kind of protocol. now- trips. that's the kind of protocol. now what appeared to heppem— protocol. now what appeared to heppem-eeme- protocol. now what appeared to happen some ultras and happen was that some ultras and i've happen was that some ultras and rte-theee— happen was that some ultras and i've-these word— happen was that some ultras and i've these word ultras , you i've seen these word ultras, you thew.— i've seen these word ultras, you thew-ttmt — i've seen these word ultras, you thew-ttmt et— i've seen these word ultras, you know, kind of ubiquitous know, it's a kind of ubiquitous tetm. —eeet l term. you see it all around. thet-e— term. you see it all around. thet-e whw— term. you see it all around. thet-e whw-t- term. you see it all around. that's why-i was. term. you see it all around. that's why i was in i was in etemet— that's why i was in i was in etemet tm— that's why i was in i was in gdansk in poland two years ago with— gdansk in poland two years ago with them— gdansk in poland two years ago with man united— gdansk in poland two years ago with man united and even though thew— with man united and even though they—villarreal,- they were playing villarreal, it wee—teeet- was the it was the local the teeet—thew- was the it was the local the localleven _they. was the it was the local the local even playing hey was the it was the local the local even playing who weren't even playing who etteetet — weren't even playing who attacked of attacked the united fans. i of my attacked the united fans. i of mw-emt— attacked the united fans. i of mw-emt t- attacked the united fans. i of my and i reported attacked the united fans. i of my-and i reported it my own eyes and i reported on it all my own eyes and i reported on it ett tew— my own eyes and i reported on it ett tew. se— my own eyes and i reported on it ett tew. se thie— my own eyes and i reported on it all day. so this happens english etehe—htt- all day. so this happens english etehe—htt et- clubs are seen as a bit of a eeetp— clubs are seen as a bit of a scalp-hooligans- clubs are seen as a bit of a scalp hooligans terms. and scalp in hooligans terms. and so as scalp in hooligans terms. and so ee—theegh-hewei as at alkmaar though, you have to as at alkmaar though, you have te wee— as at alkmaar though, you have

te wee hete— as at alkmaar though, you have te wee hewe te— as at alkmaar though, you have to you have to say,— as at alkmaar though, you have to you have to say, i mean, i've heem— to you have to say, i mean, i've heem t— to you have to say, i mean, i've heem t wemt— to you have to say, i mean, i've been i went stadium back been i went to the stadium back in been i went to the stadium back tm—tteemet— been i went to the stadium back in _arsenal. it's- been i went to the stadium back in_arsenal. it's on- in 2009 with arsenal. it's on the— in 2009 with arsenal. it's on the _amsterdam.| the outskirts of amsterdam. sheett— the outskirts of amsterdam.- should—police. should be fairly to easy police. tee—hete- you know, you don't have the teweet— you know, you don't have the teweetlmet— you know, you don't have the layout. not not _ you know, you don't have the layout not not shouldn't be layout is not not shouldn't be tee— layout is not not shouldn't be too complicated— layout is not not shouldn't be too complicated from a from a temtetw— too complicated from a from a temtetw petmt— too complicated from a from a territory point of— too complicated from a from a territory point of view in terms of territory point of view in terms et—eei territory point of view in terms eeew—eei territory point of view in terms eeew .—eei territory point of view in terms eeew . thew-we—eei territory point of view in terms osay , they've been as territory point of view in terms osay , they've been reprimanded i say, they've been reprimanded 2 et— i say, they've been reprimanded 2 et e— i say, they've been reprimanded 2 et e ttmee— i say, they've been reprimanded 2 or 3 times in— i say, they've been reprimanded 2 or 3 times in the— i say, they've been reprimanded 2 or 3 times in the last couple of 2 or 3 times in the last couple et wee — 2 or 3 times in the last couple et wee tmt— 2 or 3 times in the last couple of years. and so— 2 or 3 times in the last couple of years. and so this is why wttt— of years. and so this is why wttt mew— of years. and so this is why uefa may have— of years. and so this is why uefa may have to throw the book at uefa may have to throw the book et them— uefa may have to throw the book et them tm— uefa may have to throw the book et them tm-tm— uefa may have to throw the book at them in-in this— uefa may have to throw the book at them in in this occasion at them in this in this occasion , at them in this in this occasion -ee et— at them in this in this occasion -ee et theee- at them in this in this occasion ,-one of those one- at them in this in this occasion , one of those one of , because one of those one of theee—wee- those punishments was a eeepemtet— those punishments was a suspended means suspended sentence, which means he-te— suspended sentence, which means he-te ptew— suspended sentence, which means he-te ptew gemee— suspended sentence, which means he to play games behind he has to play games behind eteeet— he has to play games behind closed doors.— he has to play games behind closed doors-it- he has to play games behind closed doors. it means for closed doors. what it means for weet— closed doors. what it means for weet hem.— closed doors. what it means for weet hem-e— closed doors. what it means for west ham,-a-deal.. closed doors. what it means for west ham, a deal. they west ham, not a great deal. they ptehehtw— probably don't care that much heee— because they're in the europa conference final already. but whet— conference final already. but whet-ee— conference final already. buti what-as-english what was seen as the english tteeeee— what was seen as the english tteeeeelthe— what was seen as the english disease .the 70s— what was seen as the english disease the 70s and 80s is disease in the 70s and 80s is etttt— disease in the 70s and 80s is still permeates— disease in the 70s and 80s is still permeates around europe. tee— still permeates around europe. tee-eee— still permeates around europe. tee-eee tt— still permeates around europe. you-see it more- still permeates around europe. you see it more around still permeates around europe. you weiee it more around still permeates around europe. you we seet more around still permeates around europe. you we seet more seeind still permeates around europe. you we seet more see itd still permeates around europe. you we seet more see it when there. we see it. we see it when tetepeem— there. we see it. we see it when european national— there. we see it. we see it when european national teams go to the eeee— european national teams go to the we— european national teams go to the euros. we saw— european national teams go to the euros. we saw it with russia heet— the euros. we saw it with russia heet-eete. — the euros. we saw it with russia back-2016. _were - the euros. we saw it with russia back 2016. were kind of back in 2016. there were kind of heme— back in 2016. there were kind of teme whe-t— back in 2016. there were kind of fans who'd been— back in 2016. there were kind of fans who'd been training for the event— fans who'd been training for the ewemt etmeet— fans who'd been training for the event almost-be— fans who'd been training for the event almost be professional event almost to be professional heettgeme— event almost to be professional heettgeme .— event almost to be professional hooligans . there— event almost to be professional hooligans . there almost hooligans. there were almost mercenary looking to mercenary thugs looking to etteet— mercenary thugs looking to attack english— mercenary thugs looking to attack english fans. so again, het— attack english fans. so again, het-etwewe— attack english fans. so again, but always usually attack but it's always usually attack on but it's always usually attack em tmgtteh— but it's always usually attack on english. english fans because but it's always usually attack on engiseenenglish fans because but it's always usually attack on engiseen aslish fans because but it's always usually attack on engiseen as being ns because but it's always usually attack on engiseen as being the tecause but it's always usually attack on engiseen as being the apexie but it's always usually attack onthejlseen as being the apexie but it's always usually attack onthe problem being the apexie but it's always usually attack onthe problem historicallyipexie of the problem historically emwwew. — of the problem historically emwwew. tete— of the problem historically anyway. “ anyway. let's say historically, we have a problem with

we did have a problem with british football fans know the best thing we did. dawn the best thtmg— best thing we did. dawn the best ththg-wee— best thing we did. dawn the best ththg-wee wee— best thing we did. dawn the best thing _was was to - best thing we did. dawn the best thing-was was to ignore. thing we did was was to ignore emt— thing we did was was to ignore emt etep— thing we did was was to ignore and stop—front- thing we did was was to ignore. and stop—front pages and stop making the front pages out and stop making the front pages eet et— and stop making the front pages out of hooliganism. yeah back in the tee.— out of hooliganism. yeah back in the the t— out of hooliganism. yeah back in the 70s, i remember as a small ehttt— the 70s, i remember as a small ehttt eeetmg— the 70s, i remember as a small ehttt eeetmg t— the 70s, i remember as a small child seeing i mean, i never teettw— child seeing i mean, i never teettw eew— child seeing i mean, i never teettw tt— child seeing i mean, i never really saw it when i went to outt— really saw it when i went to ehte-t— really saw it when i went to eth-t-heet- really saw it when i went to qpr,-i-hear-itj really saw it when i went to. qpr,-i-hear-it in qpr, but i did hear about it in ether— qpr, but i did hear about it in ethet pteeee— qpr, but i did hear about it in other places and— qpr, but i did hear about it in other places and it was always teem— other places and it was always teem-meee.— other places and it was always front news, england front page news, england eepeetettw— especially. and that stopped hetmg— especially. and that stopped| hetmg—it being fashionable to cover it eeet— being fashionable to cover it. eeemt—the around about the early 90s, the eheet—teegeel around about the early 90s, the. onset—league, and onset of the premier league, and eettemtw— onset of the premier league, and suddenly—weren't. onset of the premier league, and sudd to .y_weren't. onset of the premier league, and sudd to gain weren't onset of the premier league, and sudd to gain notoriety. weren't onset of the premier league, and sudd to gain notoriety. motty't able to gain notoriety. motty tmt— able to gain notoriety. motty amt—ete- able to gain notoriety. mottyi and—are lessons and i think there are lessons we eem-teem— and i think there are lessons we eem-teem-tetew- and i think there are lessons we can from today with and i think there are lessons we can of from today with and i think there are lessons we can of frosome today with and i think there are lessons we can of frosome ofoday with and i think there are lessons we can of frosome of theiwith and i think there are lessons we can of fro some of the strife some of the some of the strife we tetew— some of the some of the strife we see today, not— some of the some of the strife we see today, not just in teethett— we see today, not just in. football—areas we see today, not just in- football_areas of football but in other areas of epeet— football but in other areas of epett-ethet— football but in other areas of sport-other-of- sport and other areas of eeetetw— sport and other areas of eeetetwlwee- sport and other areas of society. you give these society. if you give these peepte— society. if you give these- people—publicitvt society. if you give these- people keep - publicity, society. if you give these peoplekeep happeningiublicity, society. if you give these peoplekeep happening againty, society. if you give these peoplekeep happening again and it will keep happening again and egetm—the- it will keep happening again andi again _the problem it will keep happening again and agai exists the problem it will keep happening again and agai exists within the problem it will keep happening again and agai exists within europe. problem still exists within europe. theee-e— there's no question about that. wett— there's no question about that. wet—te— there's no question about that. well,_do about- there's no question about that. well,_do about it?i well, what can we do about it? what done? i mean, you well, what can we do about it? what that done? i mean, you well, what can we do about it? what that wastne? i mean, you well, what can we do about it? what that was no? i mean, you well, what can we do about it? what that was no faultzan, you well, what can we do about it? what that was no fault of, you well, what can we do about it? what that was no fault of theu know, that was no fault of the west ham aslef friends and family in that stand. they were just sitting there watching a football match. but these things are i don't know are happening and i don't know if imagination, but they if it's my imagination, but they do be happening even if it's my imagination, but they do they be happening even if it's my imagination, but they do they do. they ening even if it's my imagination, but they do they do. they do.ig even if it's my imagination, but they do they do. they do. ii even if it's my imagination, but they do they do. they do. i mean, more. they do. they do. i mean, the eeee— more. they do. they do. i mean, the te— more. they do. they do. i mean, the issue is here— more. they do. they do. i mean, the issue is here that— more. they do. they do. i mean, the issue is here that if- the issue is here that if i wettet— the issue is here that if i worked with— the issue is here that if i worked with you for many years, twe— worked with you for many years, rte-them— worked with you for many years, i've _them looking - worked with you for many years, i've them looking for i've found them looking for responses to— i've found them looking for responses to these stories over the— responses to these stories over the-h— responses to these stories over the-h wee -

responses to these stories over the-15 years. .it. the last ten, 15 years. and it wee—se- the last ten, 15 years. and it| wee—se whet was almost routine. so what eeeettw— was almost routine. so what usually happens— was almost routine. so what usually happens is that they ttet— usually happens is that they ttet tt— usually happens is that they ttet tt tmte— usually happens is that they kick it into the— usually happens is that they kick it into the long grass. they— kick it into the long grass. thew-wett— kick it into the long grass. they we'll make a statement they say, we'll make a statement in they say, we'll make a statement tm—e- in due course. they make a hetttmg— in due course. they make a holding position— in due course. they make a holding position statement and them—the- holding position statement and them—the ttmei holding position statement and. then—the line on then six months down the line on a then six months down the line on e—tm— then six months down the line on e—tm wewemhet. then six months down the line on a_in november, wei a cold morning in november, we get three— a cold morning in november, we get three paragraph reprimanding etetememte— get three paragraph reprimanding statements _that- get three paragraph reprimanding statements that we find statements saying that we find him— statements saying that we find him teeet — statements saying that we find him £3,000 and— statements saying that we find him £3,000 and that could be for eemethtmg— him £3,000 and that could be for eemethtmg gette— him £3,000 and that could be for something quite serious like racism orlcould- something quite serious like racism or could something something quite serious like radegree' could something something quite serious like radegree' vandalismomething a degree of vandalism or an etteet— a degree of vandalism or an etteet-emt- a degree of vandalism or an attack-and then- a degree of vandalism or an- attack-and then .then attack on fans and then by then thew—peepte - attack on fans and then by theni they—people having they just bank on people having tetgettem— they just bank on people having forgotten about— they just bank on people having forgotten about it.— they just bank on people having forgotten about it. it's weetettew-e— forgotten about it. it's- yesterday's-move yesterday's story. we move on, eepeetettw— especially if there's other etett— especially if there's other. stuff—world especially if there's other- stuff_world of stuff going on in the world of teethett — stuff going on in the world of football. .time _ stuff going on in the world of football. time will be football. this time will be ttttetemt. — football. this time will be different. because different. i think, because theee-e— different. i think, because there's-from - different. i think, because there's-from sort there's a will from a—z to sort the— there's a will from a—z to sort thte eet. — there's a will from a—z to sort thte eet. thew— there's a will from a—z to sort this out. they made a statement in this out. they made a statement he the— this out. they made a statement he the weet— this out. they made a statement in the week saying— this out. they made a statement in the week saying that the petpettetete— in the week saying that the perpetrators will be with perpetrators will be dealt with in perpetrators will be dealt with -eeeet- perpetrators will be dealt with in _severestlterms. in the most severest of terms. tmt— in the most severest of terms. tmtlhettewe— in the most severest of terms. andibelieve that— in the most severest of terms. and believe that and uefa, and i believe that and uefa, heee— and i believe that and uefa, because—down. because they handed down eeepemtet— because they handed down suspended sentence have be suspended sentence have to be eeemltettew— suspended sentence have to be seen-follow-on- suspended sentence have to be seen follow on that seen to follow through on that by seen to follow through on that hw—ewm- by enforcing their own guidelines,— by enforcing their own guidelines, own rules. by enforcing their own- guidelines,-own rules. and by enforcing their own- gthink nes,-own rules. and by enforcing their own- gthink ias,-own rules. and by enforcing their own gthink i think own rules. and by enforcing their own gthink i think you ivn rules. and by enforcing their own gthink i think you mayiles. and by enforcing their own gthink i think you may i'm and by enforcing their own gthink i think you may i'm noti i think i think you may i'm not wee-tt— i think i think you may i'm not sure you'll see— i think i think you may i'm not sure you'll see them kicked out of european competition, but thet-e— of european competition, buti thet-e—te that's probably what needs to heppem.— that's probably what needs to heppep-tt- that's probably what needs to heppep-tt wee- that's probably what needs to happen, if you do that, happen, because if you do that, it happen, because if you do that, tt-teme— happen, because if you do that, it-fans,-other- happen, because if you do that,j it-fans,-other other it makes fans, some other other eteeelethet— it makes fans, some other other areas-other parts— it makes fans, some other other areas other parts of the areas of other parts of the eemttmemt— areas of other parts of the continent realise areas of other parts of the. continent realise-is continent realise that this is emt— continent realise that this is serious and that— continent realise that this is serious and that will be serious and that there will be repercussions.— serious and that there will be repercussions. i— serious and that there will be repercussions. i know someone wttt— repercussions. i know someone wttt eew— repercussions. i know someone wttt eew-wett- repercussions. i know someone will say well, actually will say to me, well, actually

thew—thet- will say to me, well, actually they—their team . will say to me, well, actually. they—their team had they did it after their team had etteetw— they did it after their team hadi etteetw—tt already been knocked out. so it eemt— wasn't gonna have any repercussions- repercussions for that tournament. - repercussions for that tournament. i say, tournament. west ham, as i say, het—tehte- tournament. west ham, as i say, had—pablo fornalsi had gone through pablo fornals eeetmg— had gone through pablo fornals scoring-winning— had gone through pablo fornals scoring winning of scoring the winning goal, of course,-heard- scoring the winning goal, of. course,-heard.heard course, but we heard we heard teettmemtee— course, but we heard we heard testimonies from _ course, but we heard we heard testimonies from people testimonies from various people whe— testimonies from various people whe-the— testimonies from various people who-the stand.- who were in the stand. tony eewe.— who were in the stand. tony gayle,-ex—west- who were in the stand. tony- gayle,-ex—west-defender gayle, the ex—west ham defender . teeh— gayle, the ex—west ham defender . teeh-eewtmg— gayle, the ex—west ham defender . yeah,-saying that,- gayle, the ex—west ham defender . yeah, saying that, you . yeah, we're saying that, you thew.— . yeah, we're saying that, you thew—the- . yeah, we're saying that, you. know,_the stewards know, don't blame the stewards on know, don't blame the stewards em—tee— know, don't blame the stewards em—tee thew.- know, don't blame the stewards. on _you know, they're on ,6 an hour. you know, they're met— on ,6 an hour. you know, they're met-pet— on ,6 an hour. you know, they're met-pet thet— on ,6 an hour. you know, they're not-put their body- on ,6 an hour. you know, they're not put their body on not going to put their body on the the— not going to put their body on the time th— not going to put their body on the line in, in— not going to put their body on the line in, in a— not going to put their body on the line in, in a way of a load of the line in, in a way of a load et-thege.- the line in, in a way of a loadi of-thugs.-police. of organised thugs. the police. i of organised thugs. the police. t—the- i mean, i can't believe the petite— i mean, i can't believe the police wouldn't— i mean, i can't believe the police wouldn't identified police wouldn't have identified this police wouldn't have identified thte—ttxtete- this as a high risk fixture heee— this as a high risk fixture because-an- this as a high risk fixture because an easy place to because it's an easy place to tetet— because it's an easy place to ttewet—htmtl travel to. there was no hint of any— travel to. there was no hint of emw weemgtetmg— travel to. there was no hint of any wrongdoing west any wrongdoing by west ham eeppettete.— supporters, but the west ham eeppettete— supporters who spoke in the meth— supporters who spoke in the mete-teet— supporters who spoke in the media last hours supporters who spoke in the- media-last.hours have media in the last 36 hours have eett— media in the last 36 hours have eett thet— media in the last 36 hours have said that this— media in the last 36 hours have said that this situation is htewtmg— said that this situation is brewing throughout day right brewing throughout the day right . so brewing throughout the day right .ee metmettw— brewing throughout the day right . so normally when you get . and so normally when you get out . and so normally when you get eet—tetepeem out into the beauty of european teethett— out into the beauty of european teethett emt— out into the beauty of european football and i've— out into the beauty of european football and i've done it so memw— football and i've done it so memw ttmee— football and i've done it so many times myself, is that you go many times myself, is that you 90-y°“_ many times myself, is that you qo-you enjoy- go there and you enjoy you eemgtegete— go there and you enjoy you congregate square congregate in the square or eemewhete-tm- congregate in the square or. somewhere-in-town somewhere locally in the town emt—hetete- somewhere locally in the town and _ before you | somewhere locally in the town. and—before you go and you soak it up before you go to and you soak it up before you go te-geme. — and you soak it up before you go te-geme. -het- to the game. and even but theee-e— to the game. and even but there's-police- to the game. and even but- there's-police presence there's always a police presence theee— there's always a police presence there-monitoring- there just monitoring things heee— there just monitoring things heeeeee—etl because it only takes 1 or 2 peepte— because it only takes 1 or 2 peepte te— because it only takes 1 or 2 people to destroy the destroy the emthe— people to destroy the destroy the entire atmosphere. but it tttm-t— didn't seem to be any police eeet— didn't seem to be any police around monitoring that at all. i eeppeee— around monitoring that at all. i eeppeee-eeett— around monitoring that at all. i suppose could say, well , suppose you could say, well, there— suppose you could say, well, theee—teeet- suppose you could say, well, there _ local in there weren't many local fans in there weren't many local fans in the-where— there weren't many local fans ml the _where _fans the square where west ham fans

weee-weet— the square where west ham fans were,-west ham _ the square where west ham fans were, west ham fans did say were, but west ham fans did say it were, but west ham fans did say tt-htewtmg— were, but west ham fans did say tt-htewtmg .— were, but west ham fans did say it-brewing , right.- were, but west ham fans did say it brewing, right. and it was brewing, right. and so in terme— it was brewing, right. and so in teme-wee— it was brewing, right. and so in tetme-wee em- it was brewing, right. and so in terms-you can do- it was brewing, right. and so in terms you can do about terms of what you can do about it, terms of what you can do about tt-wehe— terms of what you can do about tt-wehe getmg— it, look, we're going to get teetetet— it, look, we're going to geti isolated _this. isolated incidents like this. i tem-t— isolated incidents like this. i tent-eeem- isolated incidents like this. i don't-seem to- isolated incidents like this. i don't-seem to be- don't it does seem to be heppemtmg— don't it does seem to be. happening—but don't it does seem to be- happening_but this happening a bit more. but this ttme— happening a bit more. but this time-weet.— happening a bit more. but this time-weet. we— happening a bit more. but this time year, we were talking time last year, we were talking eheet— time last year, we were talking eheet ptteh— time last year, we were talking about pitch invasions. there's a way— about pitch invasions. there's a wew—ptteh— about pitch invasions. there's a way—pitch invasion.i way of doing a pitch invasion. ttemeheetet— way of doing a pitch invasion. ttetteegee— way of doing a pitch invasion. maileague' aston villa the league against aston villa teet— the league against aston villa heet—gette- the league against aston villa last—quite well.| the league against aston villa last just quite well. the league against aston villa last just put quite well. the league against aston villa last just put a quite well. the league against aston villa last just put a ringuite well. the league against aston villa last just put a ring fenceell. they just put a ring fence eeet— they just put a ring fence around the— they just put a ring fence around the players they let around the players and they let the teme— around the players and they let the fans-onto— around the players and they let the fans-onto the- around the players and they let the fans onto the pitch the fans come onto the pitch for a the fans come onto the pitch for e—emt— the fans come onto the pitch for e—emt theee- the fans come onto the pitch for a_and there-not| a little while and there was not emeewee—t- one arrest, not one arrest, theee—thtmti one arrest, not one arrest,i three—think it three days before, i think it ewetem— three days before, i think it was everton played crystal teteee. — was everton played crystal palace. - patrick - was everton played crystal palace. patrick vieira palace. we saw patrick vieira getttmg—teml palace. we saw patrick vieirai getttmg—tem se palace. we saw patrick vieira. getttmg—tem se t getting assaulted by a fan. so i thtmt—wee— getting assaulted by a fan. so i thtmt—weelwee- think i think if you if you tegtttmtee— think i think if you if you legitimise and you do it legitimise it and if you do it in legitimise it and if you do it tm—wew.- legitimise it and if you do it tm—wew. wee- legitimise it and if you do it in _woyt you stop in a managed way, you can't stop peepte—pitch- people going on the pitch emwwew. — people going on the pitch emwwew. _youl people going on the pitch. anyway. _you can people going on the pitch- anyway. _you can have anyway. not really. you can have eete—wee-we- 3000 stewards, but if you've got eeete— 60,000 fans, very, very difficult. _ 60,000 fans, very, very- difficult. _happen. difficult. not going to happen. attem— difficult. not going to happen. etem—mech- aiden, thank you very much. good to this morning. to see you this morning. thank you. that was aidan magee, who is broadcaster and is our sports broadcaster and writer. of writer. now thousands of visitors at the visitors are expected at the annual five show today to see live soccer machinery, both vintage modern, at close vintage and modern, at close quarters, retaining the quarters, while retaining the feel of traditional feel of a traditional agricultural event . the show agricultural event. the show has extended into the extended its activities into the realms of wild, wider environment related countryside issues , with the introduction of issues, with the introduction of a game fair area for. joining us

now is our scotland reporter toby maguire . good afternoon, toby maguire. good afternoon, toby. thank you for joining toby maguire. good afternoon, toby. thank you forjoining us. toby. thank you for joining us. so tell us more about the fair and what's happening this weekend. well, and what's happening this weekend . well, it's quite, quite weekend. well, it's quite, quite an weekend. well, it's quite, quite em eteethe— : well, it's quite, quite an electric atmosphere here, to be an electric atmosphere here, to he hemeet. — an electric atmosphere here, to be honest. and— an electric atmosphere here, to be honest. and i'm you just know i'm be honest. and i'm you just know t-m getmg— be honest. and i'm you just know t-m getmg te— be honest. and i'm you just know t-m getmg te he— be honest. and i'm you just know i'm going to be fighting over the me— i'm going to be fighting over the mic with— i'm going to be fighting over the mic with those cows behind me emt— the mic with those cows behind me and probably— the mic with those cows behind me and probably some some some ehemptem— me and probably some some some champion breeds— me and probably some some some champion breeds .— me and probably some some some champion breeds . and many of champion breeds. and many of them— champion breeds. and many of them tetew— champion breeds. and many of them today certainly everything on them today certainly everything em the— them today certainly everything on the livestock— them today certainly everything on the livestock front from your shettemt — on the livestock front from your shetland ponies— on the livestock front from your shetland ponies to my personal teweehte— shetland ponies to my personal favourite, the _ shetland ponies to my personal favourite, the belted galloway is favourite, the belted galloway te the— favourite, the belted galloway is the highland— favourite, the belted galloway is the highland cows . and that's is the highland cows. and that's just is the highland cows. and that's ieet et— is the highland cows. and that's ieet et thie— is the highland cows. and that's ieet et thte pert.— is the highland cows. and that's just at this part. we've got ptettw— just at this part. we've got some pretty bizarre breeds of eheep— some pretty bizarre breeds of eheep tetmg— some pretty bizarre breeds of sheep doing about the rounds as wett— sheep doing about the rounds as wet with— sheep doing about the rounds as well with some— sheep doing about the rounds as well with some sheep shearing eempetttteme— well with some sheep shearing eempetttteme .— well with some sheep shearing competitions , everything that competitions, everything that you— competitions, everything that wee teett— competitions, everything that you could possibly love about egheettete— you could possibly love about agriculture is— you could possibly love about agriculture is really being celebrated— agriculture is really being celebrated here. and as you memttemet— celebrated here. and as you mentioned, there's the new game fair exhibition. _ mentioned, there's the new game fair exhibition. and— mentioned, there's the new game fair exhibition. and as you thew.— fair exhibition. and as you tmew. thew— fair exhibition. and as you know, they kind of move the conversation _ know, they kind of move the conversation into _ know, they kind of move the conversation into the direction of environmentalism . and so the of environmentalism. and so the epeetee— of environmentalism. and so the epeetee tewete— of environmentalism. and so the species levels can— of environmentalism. and so the

species levels can be assessed . species levels can be assessed. tmt— species levels can be assessed. amt teeptte— species levels can be assessed. and despite obviously various geme— and despite obviously various geme epette— and despite obviously various geme epette .— and despite obviously various game sports , but otherwise, you game sports, but otherwise, you thew— game sports, but otherwise, you tmew .— game sports, but otherwise, you tmew . teettw— game sports, but otherwise, you know , really happy, cheery know, really happy, cheery temttw— know, really happy, cheery family atmosphere here and i epete— family atmosphere here and i epete te— family atmosphere here and i epete te the— family atmosphere here and i spoke to the president of the ttte — spoke to the president of the fife agricultural— spoke to the president of the fife agricultural society, responsible _ fife agricultural society, responsible for putting on tetew-e— responsible for putting on today's event— responsible for putting on today's event about everything thet— today's event about everything thet metee— today's event about everything that makes this— today's event about everything that makes this event so great. tmtttettw— that makes this event so great. tmtttettw the— that makes this event so great. initially the show— that makes this event so great. initially the show was was hteeght— initially the show was was brought together to get farmers tegethet— brought together to get farmers tegethet te — brought together to get farmers together to share— brought together to get farmers together to share ideas , together to share ideas, heeteettw— together to share ideas, basically a— together to share ideas, basically a show of their tweeteet— basically a show of their livestock ,— basically a show of their livestock , to _ basically a show of their livestock , to bring out the best livestock, to bring out the best emt— livestock, to bring out the best ones and obviously selecting the heet— ones and obviously selecting the heet gemee— ones and obviously selecting the heet gemee te— ones and obviously selecting the best genes to progress the hteete— best genes to progress the hteete emt— best genes to progress the breeds and as— best genes to progress the breeds and as time went on to tmtteteee— breeds and as time went on to tmtteteee mew— breeds and as time went on to introduce new technologies and ehee— introduce new technologies and ehete tteee— introduce new technologies and share ideas about— introduce new technologies and share ideas about how best to do thtmge— share ideas about how best to do thtmge em— share ideas about how best to do thtmge em the— share ideas about how best to do things on the land— share ideas about how best to do things on the land ,— share ideas about how best to do things on the land , the public things on the land, the public hete— things on the land, the public have never been— things on the land, the public have never been more interested in have never been more interested tm egheettete. — have never been more interested in agriculture. 3 in agriculture. through clarkson's farm or landward or any of the countryfile any of these programmes. people are interested in where the food comes from. now and every farmer and every vendor and associate wants to tell their side of that story and explain exactly what it is they do to make such great food from britain . and it

food from britain. and it certainly the— : “ and it certainly the produce side of thtmge— certainly the produce side of thtmge te— certainly the produce side of things is there— certainly the produce side of things is there we go again. the pteteeete— things is there we go again. the pteteeete eew— things is there we go again. the producers say the _ things is there we go again. the producers say the things is eettetmtw— producers say the things is certainly something that's been a certainly something that's been e hege— certainly something that's been e hege tetttmg— certainly something that's been a huge talking point this week. you a huge talking point this week. tee tmew.— a huge talking point this week. tee tmew. ee— a huge talking point this week. you know, as we— a huge talking point this week. you know, as we talk about the eeet— you know, as we talk about the eeet et— you know, as we talk about the cost of organic— you know, as we talk about the cost of organic food and they teep— cost of organic food and they teep the— cost of organic food and they keep the prices— cost of organic food and they keep the prices low and eettetmtw— keep the prices low and certainly that- keep the prices low and certainly that seems to be a concern station— certainly that seems to be a concern station and a kind of mm— concern station and a kind of heeh heeh— concern station and a kind of hush hush variety from a lot. het— hush hush variety from a lot. het eettetmtw— hush hush variety from a lot. but certainly the _ hush hush variety from a lot. but certainly the breeders tetttmg— but certainly the breeders tetttmg te— but certainly the breeders talking to some of the breeders emt—eemei and the handlers, i spent some ttme— and the handlers, i spent some time with— and the handlers, i spent some time with the— and the handlers, i spent some time with the shetland ponies eettem— time with the shetland ponies eettet em— time with the shetland ponies earlier on and,— time with the shetland ponies earlier on and, you know, and theee-e— earlier on and, you know, and there's agriculture show like there's an agriculture show like the— there's an agriculture show like thte emt— there's an agriculture show like thte emt ptettw— there's an agriculture show like this and pretty much every other weet— this and pretty much every other weet thew— this and pretty much every other weet thew — this and pretty much every other week they were telling me. but it week they were telling me. but tt-e— week they were telling me. but tt-e tet— week they were telling me. but tt-e tet te— week they were telling me. but it-a lot to beat- week they were telling me. but it-a lot to beat the- week they were telling me. but it a lot to beat the fife it takes a lot to beat the fife ehew— it takes a lot to beat the fife ehew seeme— it takes a lot to beat the fife show seems to _ it takes a lot to beat the fife show seems to be the general consensus , and— show seems to be the general consensus , and i— show seems to be the general consensus , and i couldn't blame consensus, and i couldn't blame them.— consensus, and i couldn't blame them. cettetmtw— consensus, and i couldn't blame them. certainly several hectares hete— them. certainly several hectares heee emt— them. certainly several hectares heee emt teet— them. certainly several hectares here and just looking over hehtmt— here and just looking over hehtmt the— here and just looking over behind the camera , certainly behind the camera, certainly eewetet— behind the camera, certainly several hundred— behind the camera, certainly several hundred cars , tens of several hundred cars, tens of theeeemte— several hundred cars, tens of thousands of— several hundred cars, tens of thousands of people expected tetew— thousands of people expected tetew. whteh— thousands of people expected today, which is— thousands of people expected today, which is good obviously for today, which is good obviously tet the— today, which is good obviously for fife agricultural society . for fife agricultural society. het— for fife agricultural society. het tt-e— for fife agricultural society. het tt-e geet— for fife agricultural society. but it's good about connecting with— but it's good about connecting with members— but it's good about connecting with members of— but it's good about connecting with members of the public, whteh— with members of the public, whteh te— with members of the public, which is what— with members of the public, which is what james told me eettem— which is what james told me eettet — which is what james told me earlier on. so— which is what james told me

earlier on. so certainly lots of emttew— earlier on. so certainly lots of emttew. emttew— earlier on. so certainly lots of smiley, smiley cows, happy cows, happy— smiley, smiley cows, happy cows, heppw eheep— smiley, smiley cows, happy cows, happy sheep and_ smiley, smiley cows, happy cows, happy sheep and happy families tettmg— happy sheep and happy families tettmg tm— happy sheep and happy families tettmg tm ett— happy sheep and happy families taking in all the— happy sheep and happy families taking in all the sights here in the— taking in all the sights here in ttte tetew— taking in all the sights here in ttte tetew. te— taking in all the sights here in fife today. as long as this rain teeem-t— fife today. as long as this rain teeem-t me— fife today. as long as this rain doesn't come to— fife today. as long as this rain doesn't come to too much , tony, doesn't come to too much, tony, themt— doesn't come to too much, tony, themt wee— doesn't come to too much, tony, themt wee ee— doesn't come to too much, tony, thank you so much— doesn't come to too much, tony, thank you so much for joining doesn't come to too much, tony, thank you so much forjoining us emt— thank you so much forjoining us emt weet— thank you so much forjoining us and your newfound_ thank you so much forjoining us and your newfound friends are in the background. _ and your newfound friends are in the background. it“«t the background. that was tony mcguire, reporter, mcguire, our scottish reporter, reporting the fife show reporting from the fife show with new friends who are with several new friends who are very noisy. you're watching and listening to gb news saturday with me. dawn neesom. lots more coming up on the show. so do stay with us. the end .

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stories really matter to stories that really matter to you. coming up this hour, ukrainian president vladimir zelenskyy has arrived in the japanese city of hiroshima to meet with leaders on the meet with world leaders on the second day of the g7 summit . our second day of the g7 summit. our political reporter, catherine force will be joining me with all the latest that one. and all the latest on that one. and then harry and are then harry and meghan are receiving backlash in america for allegedly demanding a us media agency hands over images taken during their near—catastrophic car chase earlier this week in new york. so has this affected their brand at and should we fear artificial intelligence? will we lose our jobs to an ai bot ? all that to jobs to an ai bot? all that to come. but here's first, here's your news headlines with bethany elsey . dolan. thank you. good elsey. dolan. thank you. good ettemeem— elsey. dolan. thank you. good afternoon. here's— elsey. dolan. thank you. good afternoon. here's your- t thank you. good afternoon. here's your latest heetttmee— afternoon. here's your latest headlines at— afternoon. here's your latest headlines at 1:01. ukraine's pteettemt— headlines at1:01. ukraine's president has— headlines at 1:01. ukraine's president has arrived in japan for president has arrived in japan tet tette— president has arrived in japan for talks with— president has arrived in japan for talks with world leaders at the et— for talks with world leaders at the g7 summit— for talks with world leaders at the g7 summit .—

for talks with world leaders at the g7 summit . vladimir the g7 summit. vladimir zetemetww— the g7 summit. vladimir zelenskyy has- the g7 summit. vladimir zelenskyy has also been welcomed by the— zelenskyy has also been welcomed by the heme— zelenskyy has also been welcomed by the prime minister rishi eemet— by the prime minister rishi semet. whe— by the prime minister rishi sunak, who tweeted after the eewtmg— sunak, who tweeted after the reunion saying ukraine, we're met— reunion saying ukraine, we're met getmg— reunion saying ukraine, we're not going anywhere . it's as the not going anywhere. it's as the white— not going anywhere. it's as the white heeee— not going anywhere. it's as the white house approved plans to pewte— white house approved plans to ptewte t—te— white house approved plans to provide f—16 fighter jets to whethe— provide f—16 fighter jets to ukraine and— provide f—16 fighter jets to ukraine and to— provide f—16 fighter jets to ukraine and to train its pilots . wee— ukraine and to train its pilots . vice president— ukraine and to train its pilots . vice president zelenskyy has tepeetet— . vice president zelenskyy has repeated lobbied— . vice president zelenskyy has repeated lobbied his western ettee— repeated lobbied his western etttee tet— repeated lobbied his western allies for air— repeated lobbied his western allies for air support and hettet— allies for air support and hailed the— allies for air support and hailed the move as historic, eewtmg— hailed the move as historic, eewtmg tt— hailed the move as historic, eewtmg h wttt— hailed the move as historic, saying it will greatly enhance wttetme-e— saying it will greatly enhance ukraine's army— saying it will greatly enhance ukraine's army in the sky. white heeee— ukraine's army in the sky. white house national— ukraine's army in the sky. white house national security adviser tete— house national security adviser tete eettwem— house national security adviser jake sullivan said— house national security adviser jake sullivan said the plans wttt— jake sullivan said the plans wttt tett— jake sullivan said the plans will roll out— jake sullivan said the plans will roll out over the coming memthe— will roll out over the coming memthe. — will roll out over the coming memthe. we— will roll out over the coming months. we have- will roll out over the coming months. t:ti. : months. we have delivered what we promised. we have given ukraine what it needs based on close consultations between our military and theirs. and now we have turned to discussions about improving the ukrainian air force as part of our long term commitment to ukraine's self—defence . so as the training self—defence. so as the training unfolds in the coming months, we will work with our allies to determine when planes will be delivered , who will be delivered, who will be delivering them and how many

labour claims. there's been a big— labour claims. there's been a htg hee— labour claims. there's been a htg tm— labour claims. there's been a big rise in the— labour claims. there's been a big rise in the number- i it..? there's been a big rise in the number of people dying— big rise in the number of people twtmg tm— big rise in the number of people twtmg tm tet— big rise in the number of people dying in a&e amid— big rise in the number of people dying in a&e amid record waiting ttmee— dying in a&e amid record waiting ttmee ee— dying in a&e amid record waiting ttmee ee hhs— dying in a&e amid record waiting times as nhs trust— dying in a&e amid record waiting times as nhs trust figures shows . them— times as nhs trust figures shows , more than 23,000— times as nhs trust figures shows , more than 23,000 people died in , more than 23,000 people died he emetgemew— , more than 23,000 people died in emergency departments last weet.— in emergency departments last weet. thet-e— in emergency departments last year. that's 22%— in emergency departments last year. that's 22% more than the wee— year. that's 22% more than the wee hetete— year. that's 22% more than the year hetete .— year. that's 22% more than the year before . the— year. that's 22% more than the year before . the government says year before. the government says it's year before. the government says he tettwehmg— year before. the government says it's delivering a— year before. the government says it's delivering a record number of it's delivering a record number et teete— it's delivering a record number et teete .— it's delivering a record number of tests , speeding up discharges of tests, speeding up discharges and of tests, speeding up discharges emt tetttmg— of tests, speeding up discharges and cutting waiting lists . and cutting waiting lists. ceemttmg— and cutting waiting lists. ceemttmg te— and cutting waiting lists. counting is continuing in the teeet— counting is continuing in the local elections— counting is continuing in the local elections in northern hetemt. — local elections in northern ireland. sinn— local elections in northern ireland. sinn fein has made ettemg— ireland. sinn fein has made ettemg getme— ireland. sinn fein has made strong gains and is on course to heee— strong gains and is on course to heee the— strong gains and is on course to become the largest— strong gains and is on course to become the largest party in teeet— become the largest party in local government, with 123 councillors— local government, with 123 councillors elected. the dup eettemtw— councillors elected. the dup currently has— councillors elected. the dup currently has 104— councillors elected. the dup currently has 104 and the theme— currently has 104 and the alliance party— currently has 104 and the alliance party has 45. it's the thet— alliance party has 45. it's the first electoral— alliance party has 45. it's the first electoral test— alliance party has 45. it's the first electoral test for the party's— first electoral test for the pettw-e ehee— first electoral test for the party's since last year's eeeemhtw— party's since last year's assembly elections and takes pteee— assembly elections and takes pteee egetmet— assembly elections and takes place against the backdrop of the stormont_ place against the backdrop of the stormont stalemate . the stormont stalemate. meanwhile, _ the stormont stalemate. meanwhile, northern ireland's hepettmemt— meanwhile, northern ireland's hepettmemt et— meanwhile, northern ireland's department of infrastructure eewe— department of infrastructure eewe tt— department of infrastructure eewe h mew— department of infrastructure says it may need to turn off etteetttghte— says it may need to turn off streetlights us— says it may need to turn off streetlights us due to budget

pressures . several departments, pressures. several departments, tmetettmg— pressures. several departments, tmetettmgthe— pressures. several departments, including the education tethehtw— including the education authority and the department of teeth— authority and the department of heetth .— authority and the department of heetth . ee— authority and the department of health , are facing shortfalls of health, are facing shortfalls of hemttete— health, are facing shortfalls of hemttete et— health, are facing shortfalls of hundreds of millions of pounds as hundreds of millions of pounds ee e teeett— hundreds of millions of pounds as a result of— hundreds of millions of pounds as a result of the— hundreds of millions of pounds as a result of the dups ongoing heweett— as a result of the dups ongoing heweett. the— as a result of the dups ongoing boycott. the northern ireland eeetetew.— boycott. the northern ireland secretary, chris— boycott. the northern ireland secretary, chris heaton—harris hee— secretary, chris heaton—harris hee tmetetet— secretary, chris heaton—harris has insisted that— secretary, chris heaton—harris has insisted that there's more them— has insisted that there's more them emeegh— has insisted that there's more than enough money in the budget to than enough money in the budget te pewte— than enough money in the budget te ptewte ett— than enough money in the budget to provide all statutory eewteee— to provide all statutory eewteee .— to provide all statutory services . a— to provide all statutory services . a man has scaled the services. a man has scaled the themt— services. a man has scaled the themt et— services. a man has scaled the themt et the— services. a man has scaled the front of the bbc— services. a man has scaled the front of the bbc building in temhet— front of the bbc building in central london— front of the bbc building in central london in protest egetmet— central london in protest egetmet e— central london in protest against a historic statue. the hee— against a historic statue. the man has been— against a historic statue. the man has been seen hammering at the theepete— man has been seen hammering at the prospero and— man has been seen hammering at the prospero and ariel statue, whteh— the prospero and ariel statue, whteh hee— the prospero and ariel statue, which has been— the prospero and ariel statue, which has been on display since teee. — which has been on display since 1933. campaigners— which has been on display since 1933. campaigners have been tetttmg— 1933. campaigners have been eetttmg tet— 1933. campaigners have been calling for its— 1933. campaigners have been calling for its removal as the eeetptet— calling for its removal as the eeetptet the— calling for its removal as the sculptor eric gill— calling for its removal as the sculptor eric gill recorded eeeeettw— sculptor eric gill recorded sexually abusing his daughters in sexually abusing his daughters tm hte— sexually abusing his daughters in his diaries— sexually abusing his daughters in his diaries .— sexually abusing his daughters in his diaries . the metropolitan in his diaries. the metropolitan tethe— in his diaries. the metropolitan tettee hete— in his diaries. the metropolitan police have been— in his diaries. the metropolitan police have been on site since the— police have been on site since the eetw— police have been on site since the early hours— police have been on site since the early hours of— police have been on site since the early hours of this morning , the early hours of this morning . het— the early hours of this morning . het eew— the early hours of this morning . het eew tt— the early hours of this morning , but say it hasn't— the early hours of this morning , but say it hasn't been peeethte— , but say it hasn't been possible to— , but say it hasn't been possible to safely detain the wet— possible to safely detain the wet .— possible to safely detain the wet . t— possible to safely detain the man yet . a man— possible to safely detain the man yet . a man from south london man yet. a man from south london wttt— man yet. a man from south london wttt eppeet— man yet. a man from south london wttt eppeet tm— man yet. a man from south london will appear in court— man yet. a man from south london will appear in court later after pettee— will appear in court later after pettee teemt— will appear in court later after police found what they believe is police found what they believe te e— police found what they believe te e etgmet— police found what they believe is a signet ficant_ police found what they believe is a signet ficant specialist weepe— is a signet ficant specialist weapons factory . the national weapons factory. the national ceme— weapons factory. the national chme tgemew— weapons factory. the national crime agency claims the industrial—

crime agency claims the industrial unit- crime agency claims the industrial unit was being used to industrial unit was being used te eemeh— industrial unit was being used to convert blank— industrial unit was being used to convert blank firing guns tmte— to convert blank firing guns tmte tethet— to convert blank firing guns into lethal weapons using 3d phmtet— into lethal weapons using 3d phmtet pewte— into lethal weapons using 3d printed parts. they found more them— printed parts. they found more them too— printed parts. they found more than 100 rounds— printed parts. they found more than 100 rounds of live ammunition— than 100 rounds of live ammunition and 1000 rounds of heme— ammunition and1000 rounds of htemte .— ammunition and 1000 rounds of htemte . twem— ammunition and 1000 rounds of blanks . evan girdlestone is ammunition and 1000 rounds of blanks. evan girdlestone is due hetete— blanks. evan girdlestone is due before croydon— blanks. evan girdlestone is due before croydon magistrates later . tethe— before croydon magistrates later . tettee hete— before croydon magistrates later . police have seized 15 dogs and emeetet— . police have seized 15 dogs and emeetet twe — . police have seized 15 dogs and arrested two people after a man ttttet— arrested two people after a man ttttet tm— arrested two people after a man was killed in a— arrested two people after a man was killed in a dog— arrested two people after a man was killed in a dog attack in teetet— was killed in a dog attack in greater manchester. the 37 year old greater manchester. the 37 year ett temethem— greater manchester. the 37 year old jonathan hogg_ greater manchester. the 37 year old jonathan hogg was killed in tetgh— old jonathan hogg was killed in tetgh em— old jonathan hogg was killed in leigh on thursday. a 24 year old man was arrested— leigh on thursday. a 24 year old man was arrested on suspicion of hetmg— man was arrested on suspicion of hetmg tm— man was arrested on suspicion of hetmg tm ehetge— man was arrested on suspicion of hetmg tm ehetge et— man was arrested on suspicion of being in charge of a— man was arrested on suspicion of being in charge of a dangerous , being in charge of a dangerous, out—of—control_ being in charge of a dangerous, out—of—control dog, causing teeth.— out—of—control dog, causing teeth. tmt— out—of—control dog, causing teeth. amt e— out—of—control dog, causing death. and a 22— out—of—control dog, causing death. and a 22 year old woman hee— death. and a 22 year old woman hee etee— death. and a 22 year old woman hee etee heem— death. and a 22 year old woman has also been arrested on eeeptetem— has also been arrested on eeeptetem et— has also been arrested on suspicion of money laundering . suspicion of money laundering. tmt— suspicion of money laundering. amt me— suspicion of money laundering. and more than— suspicion of money laundering. and more than 300 jars of honey pteteeet— and more than 300 jars of honey were produced last— and more than 300 jars of honey were produced last year. buckingham _ were produced last year. buckingham palace, with some of it hetmg— buckingham palace, with some of h hetmg eewet— buckingham palace, with some of it being served to— buckingham palace, with some of it being served to garden party geeete— it being served to garden party geeete .— it being served to garden party geeete . us.— it being served to garden party geeete . us. a— it being served to garden party guests . us. a new it being served to garden party guests. us. a new image of the thmeeee— guests. us. a new image of the thmeeee et— guests. us. a new image of the princess of wales— guests. us. a new image of the princess of wales has been teteeeet— princess of wales has been teteeeet te— princess of wales has been released to mark world bd to ehew— released to mark world bd to ehew. tewet— released to mark world bd to show. royal beekeeper was temttmg— show. royal beekeeper was temttmg te— show. royal beekeeper was tending to hives at buckingham teteee— tending to hives at buckingham teteee emt— tending to hives at buckingham teteee emt et— tending to hives at buckingham palace and at clarence house. the— palace and at clarence house. the eeeem— palace and at clarence house. the hem te— palace and at clarence house. the queen is a— palace and at clarence house. the queen is a keen beekeeper

with— the queen is a keen beekeeper wtth hemew— the queen is a keen beekeeper with honey made— the queen is a keen beekeeper with honey made by herbs sold at tettmem— with honey made by herbs sold at tettmem emt— with honey made by herbs sold at fortnum and mason— with honey made by herbs sold at fortnum and mason to raise money for fortnum and mason to raise money tet ehehtw— fortnum and mason to raise money tet ehehtw .— fortnum and mason to raise money for charity . you're— fortnum and mason to raise money for charity . you're up— fortnum and mason to raise money for charity . you're up to date for charity. you're up to date on for charity. you're up to date em eh— for charity. you're up to date em eh hewe— for charity. you're up to date on gb news now,— for charity. you're up to date on gb news now, though it's back to on gb news now, though it's back te tewm— on gb news now, though it's back te tewm .— to dawn. i thank. to dawn. thank you, bethany. now ukrainian president vladimir zelenskyy tweeted that peace will become closer after today. today, earlier today, after he joined world leaders at the g7 summit in hiroshima. his arrival comes after president biden endorsed a plan to train ukrainian pilots on f—16 fighter jets and has approved western allies to donate the aircraft. now joining me to discuss this is our political reporter, catherine forster . catherine, catherine forster. catherine, we've seen zelenskyy flying into japan this morning. hugs all around . looks very friendly, around. looks very friendly, very welcoming . so what do they very welcoming. so what do they hope to achieve from zelenskyy

actually being there? well , i actually being there? well, i think the thinking— actually being there? well, i think the thinking is- i “g .“tiiti7’ well, i think the thinking is and eppetemttw— think the thinking is and eppetemttw tt— think the thinking is and apparently it was rishi sunak eeggeettem— apparently it was rishi sunak suggestion that— apparently it was rishi sunak suggestion that he should go in peee— suggestion that he should go in peee tm— suggestion that he should go in peee tm thet— suggestion that he should go in person in that being there in peee— person in that being there in peee tt-e— person in that being there in person, it's much easier to eeteettw— person, it's much easier to actually bonding. rrv bonds with peepte— actually bonding. rrv bonds with peepte we— actually bonding. rrv bonds with peepte we tmew— actually bonding. rrv bonds with people we know don't we, from the pemtemte— people we know don't we, from the pandemic. it's— people we know don't we, from the pandemic. it's difficult when— the pandemic. it's difficult whem wee-e— the pandemic. it's difficult when you're over a screen when eeteettw— when you're over a screen when actually shaking— when you're over a screen when actually shaking somebody's heht— actually shaking somebody's hemt. gtwtmg— actually shaking somebody's hand, giving them hug, looking hand, giving them a hug, looking them—he— hand, giving them a hug, looking them _it's different- them in the eye. it's different . se— them in the eye. it's different . se the— them in the eye. it's different . se the hepe— them in the eye. it's different . so the hope is— them in the eye. it's different . so the hope is really to pteeemt— . so the hope is really to pteeemt e— . so the hope is really to present a united front to russia emt— present a united front to russia emt tmteet— present a united front to russia emt tmteet te— present a united front to russia and indeed to china by extension as and indeed to china by extension ee wett. — and indeed to china by extension ee wett. hee.— and indeed to china by extension as well. now, the— and indeed to china by extension as well. now, the g7 are eg— as well. now, the g7 are announcing further sanctions. t hey— announcing further sanctions. thew ee— announcing further sanctions. thew eewtmg— announcing further sanctions. they are saying that they will be they are saying that they will he theee — they are saying that they will he theee tet— they are saying that they will be there for as— they are saying that they will be there for as long as it takes . s be there for as long as it takes . s teeete— be there for as long as it takes . s teeete .— be there for as long as it takes . s russia , for— be there for as long as it takes . s russia , for its— be there for as long as it takes . s russia , for its part, are . s russia, for its part, are tetttmg— . s russia, for its part, are talking about— . s russia, for its part, are talking about escalation and eewtmg— talking about escalation and eewtmg theee— talking about escalation and saying there are— talking about escalation and saying there are enormous risks . se— saying there are enormous risks . se. wee— saying there are enormous risks . se. wee tmew— saying there are enormous risks . se. wee tmew .— saying there are enormous risks . so, you know , this is the . so, you know, this is the temgee— . so, you know, this is the temget. temt— . so, you know, this is the danger, isn't it? “ danger, isn't it? i mean, sort of america's softened on the supplying of the fighter jets and the training of the pilots almost overnight, it seems. but

surely very antagonistic surely that is very antagonistic . well, potentially, yes . but i . well, potentially, yes. but i thtmt— . well, potentially, yes. but i thtmt the— . well, potentially, yes. but i think the thing— well, potentially, yes. but i think the thing is, this war is going— think the thing is, this war is getmg em— think the thing is, this war is getmg em emt— think the thing is, this war is going on and on,— think the thing is, this war is going on and on, and there's no teet— going on and on, and there's no eteet wew— going on and on, and there's no eteet wew tet— going on and on, and there's no clear way for this— going on and on, and there's no clear way for this to be teeetwet. — clear way for this to be resolved. and- clear way for this to be resolved. and all the time it's eemttmetmg— resolved. and all the time it's continuing. it's— resolved. and all the time it's continuing. it's costing a tetteme— continuing. it's costing a fortune. it's— continuing. it's costing a fortune. it's sending our bills up,— fortune. it's sending our bills ep. teet— fortune. it's sending our bills ep. teet pheee— fortune. it's sending our bills up, food prices, energy bills. etew. — up, food prices, energy bills. etew. they're— up, food prices, energy bills. okay. they're beginning to come tewm— okay. they're beginning to come tewm mew— okay. they're beginning to come tewm . het— okay. they're beginning to come down now . but it— okay. they're beginning to come down now . but it is very costly, down now. but it is very costly, met— down now. but it is very costly, met tet— down now. but it is very costly, met tet teet— down now. but it is very costly, not for just ukraine, down now. but it is very costly, not forjust ukraine, but down now. but it is very costly, not for just ukraine, but for all not for just ukraine, but for ett et— not for just ukraine, but for ett et — not for just ukraine, but for all of us. so— not for just ukraine, but for all of us. so clearly , if it can all of us. so clearly, if it can if all of us. so clearly, if it can it the— all of us. so clearly, if it can it the emt— all of us. so clearly, if it can if the end of— all of us. so clearly, if it can if the end of it— all of us. so clearly, if it can if the end of it can be speeded up by— if the end of it can be speeded ”p by sutwing— if the end of it can be speeded up by supplying these modern tighter— up by supplying these modern ttghtet rete— up by supplying these modern fighter jets that— up by supplying these modern fighter jets that zelenskyy has heem— fighter jets that zelenskyy has heem tetttmg— fighter jets that zelenskyy has been calling for— fighter jets that zelenskyy has been calling for ,— fighter jets that zelenskyy has been calling for , for, well, been calling for, for, well, memw— been calling for, for, well, many months— been calling for, for, well, many months now, he's no longer eettmg— many months now, he's no longer eettmg tet— many months now, he's no longer eettmg tet the— many months now, he's no longer asking for the british typhoons thet— asking for the british typhoons thet he— asking for the british typhoons thet he eeme— asking for the british typhoons that he came in— asking for the british typhoons that he came in february and was eettmg— that he came in february and was eettmg tet. — that he came in february and was eettmg tet. thew— that he came in february and was asking for. they are— that he came in february and was asking for. they are not going to asking for. they are not going te wett— asking for. they are not going te wett tm— asking for. they are not going te wett tm tm— asking for. they are not going to work in in ukraine, but these t—tee— to work in in ukraine, but these f—16s because— to work in in ukraine, but these f—16s because they're made in the— f—16s because they're made in the etetee— f—16s because they're made in the states. biden— f—16s because they're made in the states. biden had to give petmteetem— the states. biden had to give permission for— the states. biden had to give permission for other countries to permission for other countries te eepptw— permission for other countries te eepptw them.— permission for other countries to supply them. and also they've got to supply them. and also they've get te— to supply them. and also they've get te teeth— to supply them. and also they've got to train the _ to supply them. and also they've got to train the pilots . now, got to train the pilots. now, the— got to train the pilots. now, the netherlands has got two tezem— the netherlands has got two tezem et— the netherlands has got two dozen of these— the netherlands has got two dozen of these planes that they

getmg— dozen of these planes that they getmg te— dozen of these planes that they were going to be— dozen of these planes that they were going to be putting out of eewtee— were going to be putting out of eewtee meet— were going to be putting out of service next year— were going to be putting out of service next year to get the more modern— service next year to get the more modern f—35 so they could petemttettw— more modern f—35 so they could potentially arnie— more modern f—35 so they could potentially arnie pass them on emt— potentially arnie pass them on emt zetemetww— potentially arnie pass them on and zelenskyy is— potentially arnie pass them on and zelenskyy is saying these ptemee— and zelenskyy is saying these ptemee ee— and zelenskyy is saying these ptemee t— and zelenskyy is saying these planes are 4 to— and zelenskyy is saying these planes are 4 to 5— and zelenskyy is saying these planes are 4 to 5 times more eheetwe— planes are 4 to 5 times more effective than— planes are 4 to 5 times more effective than the— planes are 4 to 5 times more effective than the current sewet— effective than the current sewet — effective than the current soviet era jets- effective than the current soviet era jets that they have . soviet era jets that they have. soviet era jets that they have. se the — soviet era jets that they have. so the feeling— soviet era jets that they have. so the feeling is— soviet era jets that they have. so the feeling is anything to hetp— so the feeling is anything to hetp hetmg— so the feeling is anything to help bring this— so the feeling is anything to help bring this war to an end. tmt— help bring this war to an end. amt t— help bring this war to an end. tmt t eeppeee— help bring this war to an end. and i suppose also that putin, for and i suppose also that putin, tet ett— and i suppose also that putin, tet ett hte— and i suppose also that putin, for all his threats,— and i suppose also that putin, for all his threats, we all remember, don't we, getting up the tew— remember, don't we, getting up the tew thet— remember, don't we, getting up the day that they— remember, don't we, getting up the day that they invaded and him— the day that they invaded and him getmg— the day that they invaded and him getmg em— the day that they invaded and him going on the tv and heeteettw— him going on the tv and basically saying anybody who tmtehetee— basically saying anybody who interferes the _ basically saying anybody who interferes the consequences will be interferes the consequences will he eeeh— interferes the consequences will he eeeh ee— interferes the consequences will he eeeh ee wee— interferes the consequences will be such as you could never tmegtme— be such as you could never tmegtme. t— be such as you could never imagine. i mean,- be such as you could never imagine. i mean, pretty much tehtw— imagine. i mean, pretty much tetttw met— imagine. i mean, pretty much fairly not veiled— imagine. i mean, pretty much fairly not veiled threat to kill us fairly not veiled threat to kill ee ett. — fairly not veiled threat to kill ee ett. t— fairly not veiled threat to kill us all. i guess— fairly not veiled threat to kill us all. i guess because a year emt— us all. i guess because a year emt e— us all. i guess because a year emt e hit— us all. i guess because a year and a bit has— us all. i guess because a year and a bit has gone— us all. i guess because a year and a bit has gone by, people are and a bit has gone by, people etewtmg— and a bit has gone by, people are starting to— and a bit has gone by, people are starting to think, all eight.— are starting to think, all hght. wett— are starting to think, all right, well, we're just push it a right, well, we're just push it e ttttte— right, well, we're just push it e ttttte hit— right, well, we're just push it a little bit a— right, well, we're just push it a little bit a little bit. but of course, it's— a little bit a little bit. but of course, it's a- a little bit a little bit. but of course, it's a dangerous geme. — of course, it's a dangerous geme. wew— of course, it's a dangerous game. very much- of course, it's a dangerous game. «tilt of course, it's a dangerous game. wtith game. very much so. now obviously, it's not just ukraine that the g7 leaders are talking about. china is also on the agenda and more economic cooperation between the

countries as well . so, yes, countries as well. so, yes, eheetetetw— countries as well. so, yes, eheetetetw .— countries as well. so, yes, absolutely . they- ti.tit.. so, yes, absolutely . they have announced absolutely. they have announced absolutely. they have announced e pteme— absolutely. they have announced e pteme te— absolutely. they have announced e pteme te teet— absolutely. they have announced a plans to root out— absolutely. they have announced a plans to root out and counter teeete— a plans to root out and counter teeete emt— a plans to root out and counter russia and china's— a plans to root out and counter russia and china's use of economic coercion to influence metteme— economic coercion to influence nations decision— economic coercion to influence nations decision ,— economic coercion to influence nations decision , basically, nations decision, basically, eepeetettw— nations decision, basically, especially with— nations decision, basically, especially with china , countries especially with china, countries hete— especially with china, countries hewe ee— especially with china, countries hewe ee meth— especially with china, countries have so much inward investment tmte— have so much inward investment tmte thet— have so much inward investment into their countries— have so much inward investment into their countries from china. tmt— into their countries from china. amt etee— into their countries from china. and also china— into their countries from china. and also china is— into their countries from china. and also china is such a key expert— and also china is such a key export market— and also china is such a key export market that china has heem— export market that china has been allowed— export market that china has been allowed to— export market that china has been allowed to do a lot of thtmge— been allowed to do a lot of things which— been allowed to do a lot of things which we— been allowed to do a lot of things which we find unpalatable. i mean, look at whet-e— unpalatable. i mean, look at what's happening to the uighurs. yes what's happening to the uighurs. tee the— what's happening to the uighurs. yes the genocide— what's happening to the uighurs. yes the genocide and largely a httmt— yes the genocide and largely a httmt ewe— yes the genocide and largely a httmt ewe hee— yes the genocide and largely a blind eye has been turned . so blind eye has been turned. so thew-te— blind eye has been turned. so they're looking— blind eye has been turned. so they're looking at— blind eye has been turned. so they're looking at reducing teetttemee— they're looking at reducing resilience on— they're looking at reducing resilience on reducing tepemtemee- resilience on reducing dependence on on on chinese geete— dependence on on on chinese geete emt— dependence on on on chinese goods and also— dependence on on on chinese goods and also the fact that thew-we — goods and also the fact that thew-we get— goods and also the fact that they've got not— goods and also the fact that they've got not just the g7, theee— they've got not just the g7, these wealthiest democratic metteme— these wealthiest democratic metteme. het— these wealthiest democratic nations, but also the japanese ttme— nations, but also the japanese prime ministers— nations, but also the japanese prime ministers invited along eight— prime ministers invited along etght ether— prime ministers invited along eight other countries, including heett— eight other countries, including hteztt .— eight other countries, including hteztt . ett— eight other countries, including

brazil, all including india , the brazil, all including india, the eeemhete— brazil, all including india, the countries who— brazil, all including india, the countries who have not been ewetttw— countries who have not been overtly supportive of ukraine. i mean, in india's— overtly supportive of ukraine. i mean, in india's case, they've heem— mean, in india's case, they've heem hewtmg— mean, in india's case, they've been buying lots— mean, in india's case, they've been buying lots of russian gas and been buying lots of russian gas emt ett— been buying lots of russian gas emt eh .— been buying lots of russian gas emt ett . heptmg— been buying lots of russian gas and oil , hoping to— been buying lots of russian gas and oil, hoping to bring some of the gtehet— and oil, hoping to bring some of the global south,— and oil, hoping to bring some of the global south, if you like , the global south, if you like, etemg— the global south, if you like, etemg with— the global south, if you like, along with the— the global south, if you like, along with the west, along with the hete— along with the west, along with the nato countries, to be emttet— the nato countries, to be united. that— the nato countries, to be united. that aggression, whether it's united. that aggression, whether he eeteet— united. that aggression, whether it's actual aggression happening tm— it's actual aggression happening tm tm— it's actual aggression happening now in in russia,— it's actual aggression happening now in in russia, in in ukraine, in now in in russia, in in ukraine, tm by— now in in russia, in in ukraine, tm by teeete— now in in russia, in in ukraine, tm by teeete et— now in in russia, in in ukraine, in by russia or or— now in in russia, in in ukraine, in by russia or or what china te— in by russia or or what china te he— in by russia or or what china seem to be contemplate eating in thet— seem to be contemplate eating in thet ett— seem to be contemplate eating in thet ett the— seem to be contemplate eating in that all the manoeuvre around them— that all the manoeuvre around tetwem thet— that all the manoeuvre around taiwan that the— that all the manoeuvre around taiwan that the rest of the wett— taiwan that the rest of the wettt te— taiwan that the rest of the world is going— taiwan that the rest of the world is going to stand united egetmet— world is going to stand united against against— world is going to stand united against against that there is a pepetet— against against that there is a pepetet eptmtem— against against that there is a popular opinion in this country thet— popular opinion in this country thet wee— popular opinion in this country thet wee tmew— popular opinion in this country that you know the g7, it's all teet— that you know the g7, it's all ieet e— that you know the g7, it's all ieet e tet— that you know the g7, it's all ieet e tet et— that you know the g7, it's all just a lot of hot— that you know the g7, it's all just a lot of hot air. �*ft“it. : just a lot of hot air. what does it actually achieve? and it didn't appear to achieve much last year's g7. and people are saying , would rishi's time be saying, would rishi's time be better here? sorting out the uk problems? well he's going to have plenty of time sorting out

those problems, isn't he? you know, this is only a . “ti7 you know, this is only a couple of tewe— know, this is only a couple of tewe emt— know, this is only a couple of days and sure,— know, this is only a couple of days and sure, it's- know, this is only a couple of days and sure, it's all very gtemeteee— days and sure, it's all very glamorous. and- days and sure, it's all very glamorous. and the photo opportunities,— glamorous. and the photo opportunities, whatever for and a opportunities, whatever for and e tet— opportunities, whatever for and e tet et— opportunities, whatever for and e tet et memew— opportunities, whatever for and a lot of money is— opportunities, whatever for and a lot of money is obviously epemt— a lot of money is obviously epemt tm— a lot of money is obviously spent in sending these people out spent in sending these people eet .— spent in sending these people eet . het— spent in sending these people eet . het t— spent in sending these people out . but i come— spent in sending these people out. but i come back to what we all out. but i come back to what we ett teethet— out. but i come back to what we all learned when— out. but i come back to what we all learned when we were stuck at all learned when we were stuck et heme. — all learned when we were stuck at home. those— all learned when we were stuck at home. those of— all learned when we were stuck at home. those of us lucky emeegh— at home. those of us lucky emeegh te— at home. those of us lucky enough to have— at home. those of us lucky enough to have had jobs in the pemtemte— enough to have had jobs in the pandemic,_that- enough to have had jobs in the pandemic, that we pandemic, that meant that we teett— pandemic, that meant that we could because— pandemic, that meant that we could because a— pandemic, that meant that we could because a lot people could because a lot of people het— could because a lot of people het-eet— could because a lot of people het-eet-te- could because a lot of people had-out-do their. could because a lot of people. had-out-do their jobs. had to go out and do theirjobs. but— had to go out and do theirjobs. but people— had to go out and do theirjobs. but people that— had to go out and do theirjobs. but people that jobs but people that could do jobs remotely.— remotely. it is no substitute for being— remotely. it is no substitute for being in— remotely. it is no substitute for being in the— remotely. it is no substitute for being in the office meeting your— for being in the office meeting your colleagues.— for being in the office meeting your colleagues. and so i think it e— your colleagues. and so i think it is worth— your colleagues. and so i think it is worth it— your colleagues. and so i think it is worth it .— your colleagues. and so i think it is worth it. relationships wm— it is worth it. relationships will be— it is worth it. relationships will be made— it is worth it. relationships will be made or otherwise . those will be made or otherwise. those personal— will be made or otherwise. those personal connections are are important. — personal connections are are important. .— personal connections are are important. i just- personal connections are are important. : important. i just wanted to ask you this one thing i sort of found myself watching it endlessly fascinating . beth endlessly fascinating. beth rigby on sky news was interviewing rishi sunak actually out in japan , and she actually out in japan, and she was of like, you did was sort of like, you know, did you it was you did you see this? it was actually it was actually very funny. it was a great and it's like, actually very funny. it was a greé know, and it's like, actually very funny. it was a greéknow, rishi,ind it's like, actually very funny. it was a greéknow, rishi, you t's like, you know, rishi, you are successful. everything successful. everything successful at finance, successful, you turn successful, whatever. you turn your hand to, you're very rich.

you da da da da da. how do you know, da da da da da. how do you you lose ? and just you feel when you lose? and just tell what rishi's reaction tell me what rishi's reaction was, because that was the highlight and it's like highlight of it. and it's like she did. what's it like when you teee— she did. what's it like when you tee and— she did. what's it like when you tee and fee— she did. what's it like when you tee end for e— she did. what's it like when you lose and for a second— z 2 what's it like when you lose and for a second he said nothing.— lose and for a second he said nothing. and— lose and for a second he said nothing. and then he went, what do you— nothing. and then he went, what do you mean— nothing. and then he went, what do you e— nothing. and then he went, what do you mean ? well, you're very do you mean? well, you're very eueoeeeun — do you mean? well, you're very successful, but— do you mean? well, you're very successful, but what's it like when— successful, but what's it like when you— successful, but what's it like when you don't— successful, but what's it like when you don't win? and was when you don't win? and it was almost— when you don't win? and it was almost-ehe— when you don't win? and it was almost the concept of not almost like the concept of not winning— almost like the concept of not winning woe— almost like the concept of not winning was something that was like winning was something that was nee-une— winning was something that was tine-tine ,— winning was something that was like-like , lose. - winning was something that was like like , lose. rome. winning was something that was like like , lose. like it was like, lose. what is one— like it was like, lose. what is this losing? you're talking about not did not understand about did not did not understand . of course, there'll be plenty of people— . of course, there'll be plenty of people onen— of course, there'll be plenty of people that think, well, youe— of people that think, well, you-e pong— of people that think, well, you-e gonng no— of people that think, well, you're going to understand it in a you're going to understand it in oyeon— you're going to understand it in oyeon on— you're going to understand it in oyeon on o yen— you're going to understand it in a year or a year and a half in a general— a year or a year and a half in a general election.— a year or a year and a half in a general election. and of course, onenes— general election. and of course, onene-e plenty— general election. and of course, there's plenty of— general election. and of course, there's plenty of people within there's plenty of people within the conservatives— there's plenty of people within the conservatives themselves there's plenty of people within the conssaying,es themselves there's plenty of people within the conssaying, you're|selves there's plenty of people within the conssaying, you're going that are saying, you're going down— that are saying, you're going down one— that are saying, you're going down the wrong— that are saying, you're going down the wrong path . we saw it down the wrong path. we saw it toen— down the wrong path. we saw it use weekend— down the wrong path. we saw it last weekend at— down the wrong path. we saw it last weekend at the conservative nenoonone— last weekend at the conservative democratic organisation. we saw it democratic organisation. we saw u unn— democratic organisation. we saw u nun nong- — democratic organisation. we saw it with kong. you're not conservative— it with kong. you're not conservative enough, you're going— conservative enough, you're going down— conservative enough, you're going down the— conservative enough, you're going down the wrong path . but going down the wrong path. but at going down the wrong path. but on one— going down the wrong path. but on one sene— going down the wrong path. but at the same time,— going down the wrong path. but at the same time, many conservative— at the same time, many conservative mps thinking he is our conservative mps thinking he is ong— conservative mps thinking he is our only chance— conservative mps thinking he is our only chance and in fact his

popuponny— our only chance and in fact his popularity ratings— our only chance and in fact his popularity ratings are really guine— popularity ratings are really gune nngn— popularity ratings are really quite high, especially compared to quite high, especially compared no one— quite high, especially compared to one reen— quite high, especially compared to the rest of— quite high, especially compared to the rest of the— quite high, especially compared to the rest of the party, that he to the rest of the party, that ne n— to the rest of the party, that ne n onen— to the rest of the party, that he is their best— to the rest of the party, that he is their best and only hope one— he is their best and only hope one o— he is their best and only hope one e on— he is their best and only hope one e on on— he is their best and only hope and a bit of unity— he is their best and only hope and a bit of unity behind him noun— and a bit of unity behind him would not— and a bit of unity behind him would not go— and a bit of unity behind him would not go amiss. catherine none— would not go amiss. catherine force thank you very much for joining us today. and but let me know what you think. i mean gbviews@gbnews.uk surely we don't want a prime minister that is a loser. we want him to win. we don't want him to understand the concept of losing because we want country on its want the country back on its feet. know what feet. but let's know what you think right talking of think right now. talking of rishi to rishi sunak, his promise to reduce numbers has reduce immigration numbers has been revealed. the uk's net migration numbers for this year could be as high as a million in the biggest single number in those figures are students. these legal migrants. these are legal migrants. remember the education secretary gillian keegan has said she is hugely proud that more than 600,000 foreign students are now currently studying in the uk per yeah currently studying in the uk per year. the net migration figures are set to published are set to be published officially next week . now officially next week. now joining me now is chief political commentator for the

independent, john rentoul. hello john. good afternoon. thank you very much for joining john. good afternoon. thank you very much forjoining on this very much for joining on this lovely saturday afternoon . now, lovely saturday afternoon. now, john, the official figures are due to be released this week. what do we know about what they are going to reveal? well there's been an awful lot of speculation that they're going to be even higher than the latest set of figures which which was half a million. and figures such as 700,000 - figures such as 700,000 and 800,000— figures such as 700,000 and 800,000 or— figures such as 700,000 and 800,000 or even— figures such as 700,000 and 800,000 or even a million have been— 800,000 or even a million have been ponllel— 800,000 or even a million have been bandied about. so there is a been bandied about. so there is o pn— been bandied about. so there is e on on— been bandied about. so there is a bit of expectation management for me— a bit of expectation management for the government to do in this because— for the government to do in this because rishi— for the government to do in this because rishi sunak was very uncomfortable— because rishi sunak was very uncomfortable when he was asked about— uncomfortable when he was asked about me— uncomfortable when he was asked about me on— uncomfortable when he was asked about this on the— uncomfortable when he was asked about this on the plane to japan onl— about this on the plane to japan one now— about this on the plane to japan and how divided— about this on the plane to japan and how divided are are the colonel— and how divided are are the colonel on— and how divided are are the cabinet on it? _ and how divided are are the cabinet on it? i- and how divided are are the cabinet on it? " cabinet on it? i mean, the one thing we keep coming back to with both our political parties, with both our political parties, with labour and with conservatives who seem to the conservatives who seem to be the main increasingly main hope still increasingly divided, the issue divided, there seems the issue of migration . ian seems to be

of migration. ian seems to be causing more division in the cabinet than any other issue. we've already heard suella braverman talking out this week how big an issue is this becoming for the conservative party ? well, it's i find it very party? well, it's i find it very peoullon— party? well, it's i find it very peeullon l— party? well, it's i find it very peculiar. i mean,— party? well, it's i find it very peculiar. i mean, it- 7’ well, it's i find it very peculiar. i mean, it is divisive in peculiar. i mean, it is divisive ln lne— peculiar. i mean, it is divisive ln lne eenee— peculiar. i mean, it is divisive in the sense that— peculiar. i mean, it is divisive in the sense that the home secretory— in the sense that the home seenelony le— in the sense that the home secretary is always arguing for more restrictions.— secretary is always arguing for more restrictions. and everybody else— more restrictions. and everybody else ln— more restrictions. and everybody else ln lne— more restrictions. and everybody else in the cabinet— more restrictions. and everybody else in the cabinet has an lnleneel— else in the cabinet has an lnleneel ln— else in the cabinet has an interest in in— else in the cabinet has an interest in in not imposing renne— interest in in not imposing neenle .— interest in in not imposing neenle . l— interest in in not imposing restric . i mean,- interest in in not imposing restric . i mean, gillian keegan, restric. i mean, gillian keegan, the education— restric. i mean, gillian keegan, the education secretary wants nonelgn— the education secretary wants foreign students— the education secretary wants foreign students to come here because— foreign students to come here because lney— foreign students to come here because they they contribute a you— because they they contribute a you announ— because they they contribute a vast amount of— because they they contribute a vast amount of money to our eonoy— vast amount of money to our eonoy . sne— vast amount of money to our economy . she, the chancellor has economy. she, the chancellor has has economy. she, the chancellor has nee forecaste— economy. she, the chancellor has has forecasts for— economy. she, the chancellor has has forecasts for the _ economy. she, the chancellor has has forecasts for the economy, unen— has forecasts for the economy, unlon oeeune— has forecasts for the economy, which assume that there's going to be— which assume that there's going to be e— which assume that there's going to be e nlgn— which assume that there's going to be a high net— which assume that there's going to be a high net immigration for the indefinite— to be a high net immigration for the indefinite future. and lnol-e— the indefinite future. and more one— the indefinite future. and that's and that's driving economic growth. and you know if you 90— economic growth. and you know if you go lo— economic growth. and you know if you go lo unenl— economic growth. and you know if you go to defra to— economic growth. and you know if you go to defra to raise coffee once once more— you go to defra to raise coffee once once more farm workers to keep— once once more farm workers to keep keep—

once once more farm workers to keep leep ner— once once more farm workers to keep keep her client groups happy— keep keep her client groups happy 50_ keep keep her client groups noppy so every— keep keep her client groups happy so every every cabinet nlnlelen— happy so every every cabinet minister except— happy so every every cabinet minister except the home secretory— minister except the home secretary wants to is opposed to neenlonone. — secretary wants to is opposed to restrictions. but— secretary wants to is opposed to restrictions. but when the nunnepe— restrictions. but when the nunepe go— restrictions. but when the numbers go up to you know net lnnlgnnon— numbers go up to you know net immigration of— numbers go up to you know net immigration of 700,000 ori nllllon— immigration of 700,000 ori million, then— immigration of 700,000 ori million, then you've got to youe— million, then you've got to you gol— million, then you've got to you gol lo— million, then you've got to you've got to wonder how the government— you've got to wonder how the government can— you've got to wonder how the government can possibly respond to non — government can possibly respond to non l— government can possibly respond to non l soy— government can possibly respond to non l soy ll— government can possibly respond to that. i say it does— government can possibly respond to that. c : c : to that. i say it does it does appear to sort of like , you appear to sort of like, you know, a lot of us out here that are these people even talking to each because they all seem each other because they all seem to sort of issue statements that contradict another contradict one another constantly. i mean, contradict one another constantly . i mean, are they constantly. i mean, are they lolllng— constantly. i mean, are they lolllng lo— constantly. i mean, are they talking to each— f i mean, are they talking to each other? do they get talking to each other? do they gel one— talking to each other? do they gel on? l— talking to each other? do they gel one l neon— talking to each other? do they get on? i mean, suella get on? i mean, is suella braverman basically bid braverman basically making a bid to braverman basically making a bid lo—nlnlelen- to be the next prime minister nee?— to be the next prime minister nelee well— to be the next prime minister here? well, yes— to be the next prime minister here? well, yes . _ to be the next prime minister here? well, yes . " here? well, yes. i mean, that's what everybody says. and she you know, she gave a speech at the national conservatism conference , which was widely interpreted as bid for the leadership. but as a bid for the leadership. but she's not that popular with with the members . i mean, it the party members. i mean, it strikes me that she's she's in danger of going the same way that priti patel went . priti that priti patel went. priti

patel was a, you know, a home secretary with a right wing reputation who wanted to restrict immigration , then restrict immigration, then failed and became became extremely unpopular with the with the tory grassroots. now, unless suella braverman resigns in the next five minutes or so, i think she's going to get the blame for failure on immigration as well . so i don't think her as well. so i don't think her leadership ambitions are in very good shape. oh, she she is home secretary after all. she's euppoeelly— secretary after all. she's euppoeelly ln— f she's supposedly in charge. what do you lnlnl— supposedly in charge. what do you think labour's response has been— you think labour's response has been onl— you think labour's response has been and will— you think labour's response has been and will be— you think labour's response has been and will be when we have the been and will be when we have lne llgunee— been and will be when we have the figures concerned, what is our response these figures ? our response to these figures? lnell— our response to these figures? their responsibly— our response to these figures? their responsibly to be as quiet as their responsibly to be as quiet oe poeellle— their responsibly to be as quiet as possible and— their responsibly to be as quiet as possible and let the conservatives- as possible and let the conservatives tear each other opon,— conservatives tear each other .pgp, l— conservatives tear each other apart, i imagine,— conservatives tear each other apart, i imagine, because i l— apart, i imagine, because i l lon-l— apart, i imagine, because i mean, i don't think i mean loloun— mean, i don't think i mean labour, labour— mean, i don't think i mean labour, labour don't have any llllenenl— labour, labour don't have any different—from i different policies from, from lne— different policies from, from the government— different policies from, from the government on any of this. gm,— the government on any of this. um. you— the government on any of this. um, you know.— the government on any of this. um, you know. ll— the government on any of this. um, you know, if you- the government on any of this. um, you know, if you ask- the government on any of this. um, you know, if you ask what labour's policy is on the, on the small boats, it's essentially, it's essentially the same as the government's policy minus the rwanda scheme ,

policy minus the rwanda scheme, which is never going to happen. so that doesn't make any difference. and you know , i difference. um and you know, i mean labour will, will say , you mean labour will, will say, you know, the government has lost control, the government doesn't know what it's doing . but if you know what it's doing. but if you ask what specifically they ask them what specifically they should instead , i don't think should do instead, i don't think you'll get a very clear answer. john one other thing i john one otherything i wanted john one other thing i wanted to loll— john one other thing i wanted to loll lo— john one other thing i wanted to loll lo you— john one other thing i wanted to talk to you about,— john one other thing i wanted to talk to you about, talking about the talk to you about, talking about lne—knoll- talk to you about, talking about lne—knoll lne| the same thing. you know, the red-mean, sort- the same thing. you know, the red-mean, sort of- red wall. i mean, sort of like, you— red wall. i mean, sort of like, you-loy— red wall. i mean, sort of like,- you-tory,-chairman you know, tory, deputy chairman lee you know, tory, deputy chairman lee—o— you know, tory, deputy chairman lee—o ne- lee anderson and a new conservative— lee anderson and a new conservative group, which is a lozen— conservative group, which is a lozen-lnonn— conservative group, which is a dozen-drawn from - conservative group, which is a dozen drawn from that 2017, dozen mps drawn from that 2017, zon— dozen mps drawn from that 2017, zen leo— dozen mps drawn from that 2017, zen lel woll— dozen mps drawn from that 2017, 2019 red wall area. they want to leollgn— 2019 red wall area. they want to leollgn nlln— 2019 red wall area. they want to realign with boris— 2019 red wall area. they want to realign with boris johnson's nlglollon— realign with boris johnson's migration policies and they're lolllng— migration policies and they're lolllng oul— migration policies and they're talking out. they're making oleon— talking out. they're making clear they're _ talking out. they're making clear they're backing rishi sunol,— clear they're backing rishi sunol, lul— clear they're backing rishi sunak, but saying we need to oeluolly— sunak, but saying we need to actually tackle _ sunak, but saying we need to actually tackle this. otherwise we golng — actually tackle this. otherwise we golng lo— actually tackle this. otherwise we are going to lose red wall. wnol— we are going to lose red wall. wnol wnol— we are going to lose red wall. what what do— we are going to lose red wall. what what do you make of this development? _ what what do you make of this development? rollin "" development? well, boris johnson was just as unclear on immigration as as as rishi sunak is when he was mayor of london. he was actually pro immigration and, you know, he presided over and, you know, he presided over a cabinet which was squabbling

over over exactly the same things that they're still arguing about. now, i mean, and so was so was liz truss. i mean, you know , liz truss and suella you know, liz truss and suella braverman actually fell out big time. i mean i know suella braverman was sacked by liz truss for , for disclosing truss for, for disclosing confidential information, but i mean they had just had a huge row and it was about immigration. suella braverman wanted to restrict it and liz truss wanted to go for growth . truss wanted to go for growth. so all, all, all conservative prime ministers struggle with this. this issue. but what amazes me is that, you know, as we head towards net immigration of a million, the argument really hasn't changed shape . and really hasn't changed shape. and i think that's i think that is going to puzzle people in the red wall. john, you don't sound lnol— red wall. john, you don't sound that confident— red wall. john, you don't sound that confident that— ”cl: john, you don't sound that confident that any of this wlll— that confident that any of this wlll le— that confident that any of this will be solved— that confident that any of this will be solved in— that confident that any of this will be solved in the run up to lne— will be solved in the run up to lne genenol— will be solved in the run up to the general election, which is noppenlng— the general election, which is happening-soon,- the general election, which is happening soon, isn't it happening rather soon, isn't it 7 happening rather soon, isn't it e-lnpononl— happening rather soon, isn't it e-lnpononl lo- happening rather soon, isn't it ? important do you think it ? how important do you think it is ? how important do you think it le genulnely— ? how important do you think it is genuinely voters in that is genuinely to voters in that rel— is genuinely to voters in that rel woll— is genuinely to voters in that red wall area?— is genuinely to voters in that red wall area? well the question

is red wall area? well the question le now— red wall area? well the question le now muon— red wall area? well the question is how much it— red wall area? well the question is how much it affects affects lnen. — is how much it affects affects lnen. l— is how much it affects affects them. i mean,— is how much it affects affects them. i mean, the- is how much it affects affects them. " lg them. i mean, the other thing that i find surprising about these huge numbers for net immigration is that you can't actually i mean, maybe i'm totally out of touch, but i can't i don't feel all that you know, there are a lot of additional people in the country. i mean, the tube in london is not as crowded as it used to be before the coronavirus. um you know, everyone's working from home. john. come on. well, yeah, perhaps that's all changed, but, i mean, unless people feel that identify viable in comers are taking taking jobs in houses and so on from them then, then i don't think that immigration is going to necessarily be a huge political problem . i think the political problem. i think the small boats is a problem because that's visible. yeah absolutely. and they don't have an idea oloul— and they don't have an idea oloul lnol— and they don't have an idea about that one.— and they don't have an idea about that one. john rentoul, lnonl— about that one. john rentoul, lnonl you— about that one. john rentoul, lnonl you eo— about that one. john rentoul, thank you so much for joining about that one. john rentoul, thank you so much forjoining us onlsolunloy— thank you so much forjoining us on saturday afternoon. that's on a saturday afternoon. that's gonn— john rentoul, chief political commentator— john rentoul, chief political commentator independent .

commentator of the independent. llgnl— commentator of the independent. llgnl-lolnlng— commentator of the independent. llgnl-lolnlng ne— commentator of the independent. right joining me now is right now joining me now is lonne— right now joining me now is farmer gareth— right now joining me now is farmer gareth wyn jones for what it's farmer gareth wyn jones for what we ooluolly— farmer gareth wyn jones for what it's actually like— farmer gareth wyn jones for what it's actually like at— farmer gareth wyn jones for what it's actually like at the sharp enl— it's actually like at the sharp enl ol— it's actually like at the sharp end of actually— it's actually like at the sharp end of actually no , actually, we end of actually no, actually, we nove— end of actually no, actually, we nowe loll— end of actually no, actually, we have lost him.— end of actually no, actually, we have lost him. unfortunately, the have lost him. unfortunately, lne llon-e— have lost him. unfortunately, the lion's gone— have lost him. unfortunately, the lion's gone down. right. ony— the lion's gone down. right. onoy. we— the lion's gone down. right. okay. we what— the lion's gone down. right. okay. we what we want to know, lnougn— okay. we what we want to know, lnougn le— okay. we what we want to know, lnougn, le wnol— okay. we what we want to know, though, is what you think about this gbviews@gbnews.uk how do you leel— this gbviews@gbnews.uk how do you leel oloul— this gbviews@gbnews.uk how do you feel about these migration llgulee— you feel about these migration llgulee oe— you feel about these migration figures are coming out this weeke— figures are coming out this week? wel— figures are coming out this week? net migration is 700,000 to week? net migration is 700,000 lo l— week? net migration is 700,000 lo l nllllon— week? net migration is 700,000 to 1 million. we— week? net migration is 700,000 to 1 million. we don't know exoelly— to 1 million. we don't know exoolly lne— to 1 million. we don't know exactly the figures yet, and lnol-e— exactly the figures yet, and woe lne — exactly the figures yet, and that's the legal— exactly the figures yet, and that's the legal migration we know— that's the legal migration we know oloul— that's the legal migration we know about. what about and we've still know about. what about and we've ellll gol— know about. what about and we've ellll gol lne— know about. what about and we've still got the boat— know about. what about and we've still got the boat situation as well— still got the boat situation as well we-we— still got the boat situation as well. we've got— still got the boat situation as well. we've got lovely weather eonlng— well. we've got lovely weather eonlng up— well. we've got lovely weather eonlng up lne— well. we've got lovely weather coming up the summer's coming up. coming up the summer's coming up- _get- coming up the summer's coming up. —gel even- up. that's going to get even worse. so what— up. that's going to get even worse. so what do you think? how is worse. so what do you think? how le—you— worse. so what do you think? how le—you ln— worse. so what do you think? how le—you ln lnle- is it affecting you in this situation?— is it affecting you in this situation? let— is it affecting you in this situation? let me know. a gbviews@gbnews.uk right. okay. woue— gbviews@gbnews.uk right. okay. you're watching _ gbviews@gbnews.uk right. okay. you're watching and listening to gb you're watching and listening to on news— you're watching and listening to gb news saturday with me. dawn weeeonn— gb news saturday with me. dawn weeeonn loll— gb news saturday with me. dawn neesom. lots more— gb news saturday with me. dawn neesom. lots more coming up on loloy-e— neesom. lots more coming up on loloy-e enow. — neesom. lots more coming up on today's show. don't— neesom. lots more coming up on today's show. don't go anywhere . welln— today's show. don't go anywhere . hello there. _ today's show. don't go anywhere . hello there. welcome- today's show. don't go anywhere . hello there. welcome to your gb news weather forecast from the met office. i'm craig snell.

we're having a look at sunday. a bit of a north south split at risk rain across risk of some rain across northern ireland and scotland, but should be and but elsewhere should be dry and fine. the area of rain is all courtesy of this weather front, which gradually work its which will gradually work its way northern ireland and way towards northern ireland and scotland during the next 24 hours but further south, hours or so. but further south, high remains in charge high pressure remains in charge here. it's going to be a fine second half to the weekend. so going into the rest of saturday, you can see largely clear skies across a good chunk england across a good chunk of england and further north, we and wales. but further north, we see of rain could turn see this area of rain could turn quite places, quite heavy in places, especially across the scottish mountains. but no problems really with temperatures. really here with temperatures. but further under the but further south, under the clear could turn quite clear skies, it could turn quite chilly time of year, chilly for the time of year, especially some prone especially across some prone spots midlands and wales. spots of the midlands and wales. but set us up for but that will set us up for another fine day across many parts of england and wales. another fine day across many parts of england and wales . a parts of england and wales. a little bit cloud from time to little bit of cloud from time to time, eastern time, especially across eastern coasts, generally the coasts, but generally the cloudier skies will be reserved for ireland for northern ireland and scotland. rain will weaken scotland. the rain will weaken as goes on. so hopefully as the day goes on. so hopefully by the end of the afternoon we could start to see some sunshine

developing for northern parts of scotland northern scotland and maybe also northern ireland. the best of the ireland. but the best of the sunshine will be further south where we will see highs reaching 21 or 22 degrees into the evening. the rain will continue to weaken, still will leave behind some cloud across northern ireland and scotland. further south. this is where we see the clearest of the sky. so once again, we could turn quite chilly, especially across parts of wales and into the midlands. but overall, as we start monday morning, we start on a fairly quiet note across the country. we still hang on to some cloud across eastern scotland, but it will improve here as the day goes on and generally the best of the sunshine will be further south you are . and as south and west. you are. and as we go into tuesday and wednesday , a very changes across , a very little changes across the country be largely dry and sunny for a lot of the uk and in the sunshine it will feel pleasantly warm for the time of year

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relatively recent graves not being tended . people move that being tended. people move that , lney— being tended. people move that , lney een— being tended. people move that area , they even move- lg :: people move that area , they even move abroad and area, they even move abroad and lney-we— area, they even move abroad and lney-we leeone— area, they even move abroad and they've become infirm. “el: they've become infirm. so i had it they've become infirm. so i had ll ln— they've become infirm. so i had ll ln ny— they've become infirm. so i had ll ln my unnu— they've become infirm. so i had it in my mind for some years to start up a grave cleaning business for 200 to £300 a year. martin's team will visit your- martin's team will visit your relolwee— martin's team will visit your relatives grave— martin's team will visit your relatives grave every three nonwo— relatives grave every three months, where _ relatives grave every three months, where they'll cut the goee — months, where they'll cut the goee loy— months, where they'll cut the grass, lay flowers and clean and pollen— grass, lay flowers and clean and pollen lne— grass, lay flowers and clean and polish the headstone . they also polish the headstone. they also nove— polish the headstone. they also nowe o— polish the headstone. they also have a number— polish the headstone. they also have a number of— polish the headstone. they also have a number of celebrity ellenle— have a number of celebrity clients, including former pollllelon— clients, including former politician ann- clients, including former politician ann widdecombe . " politician ann widdecombe. in the politician ann widdecombe. in lne ell— politician ann widdecombe. in lne ell owe.— politician ann widdecombe. in the old days, generations- politician ann widdecombe. in the old days, generations used to tend the family grave because they still lived near my parents were buried somewhere where i used to live, but now i'm 200 miles away in devon climbing. i feel that the grave is cared for. i also feel that, you know, i'm doing the right thing by the church and, you know , so that church and, you know, so that people don't walk through tatty graveyards. although amanda paddock is new to the business, she says she has no plans to quit and feels at home among the

tombstones. i will do it until i eon-l— tombstones. i will do it until i eon-l lo— tombstones. i will do it until i eon-l lo ll— tombstones. i will do it until i can't do it anymore.- tombstones. i will do it until i can't do it anymore. i- i will do it until i can't do it anymore. i just, you know,— can't do it anymore. i just, you know lye— can't do it anymore. i just, you know we pul— can't do it anymore. i just, you know, i've put on— can't do it anymore. i just, you know, i've put on if— can't do it anymore. i just, you know, i've put on if i can still lenl— know, i've put on if i can still lenl lown— know, i've put on if i can still bend down to— know, i've put on if i can still bend down to do— know, i've put on if i can still bend down to do the plots at 70 plus,— bend down to do the plots at 70 plue lnen— bend down to do the plots at 70 plue lnen l— bend down to do the plots at 70 plus, then i shall— bend down to do the plots at 70 plus, then i shall carry on long— plus, then i shall carry on lolng ll— plus, then i shall carry on doing it because it's just so peoeelul— doing it because it's just so peoeelul ,— doing it because it's just so peoeelul , eo— doing it because it's just so peaceful , so relaxing. ray peaceful, so relaxing. ray allleon— peaceful, so relaxing. ray allleon .— peaceful, so relaxing. ray addison . gb— peaceful, so relaxing. ray addison . gb news. o" peaceful, so relaxing. ray- addison . gb news. oh, thank you, addison. gb news. oh, thank you, ray, for that very moving report. you're watching gb news saturday with me. dawn neesom plenty more ahead. but first, here's the news with bethany elsey . dawn, thank you. good elsey. dawn, thank you. good afternoon. here's your- l good afternoon. here's your latest neolllnee— afternoon. here's your latest headlines at— afternoon. here's your latest headlines at 1:30. ukraine's pneellenl— headlines at1:30. ukraine's president has— headlines at 1:30. ukraine's president has arrived in japan for president has arrived in japan loo lolle— president has arrived in japan for talks with— president has arrived in japan for talks with world leaders at the for talks with world leaders at lne el— for talks with world leaders at the g7 summit— for talks with world leaders at the g7 summit .— for talks with world leaders at the g7 summit . vladimir the g7 summit. vladimir zelenelyy— the g7 summit. vladimir zelenskyy has- the g7 summit. vladimir zelenskyy has also been welcomed by lne— zelenskyy has also been welcomed by lne lune— zelenskyy has also been welcomed by the prime minister, rishi sunow— by the prime minister, rishi sunol, wno— by the prime minister, rishi sunak, who tweeted after the reunion, saying— sunak, who tweeted after the reunion, saying ,— sunak, who tweeted after the reunion, saying , ukraine, we're reunion, saying, ukraine, we're not reunion, saying, ukraine, we're nol golng— reunion, saying, ukraine, we're not going anywhere either. it's as not going anywhere either. it's oe lne— not going anywhere either. it's oe lne wnlle— not going anywhere either. it's as the white house approved plone— as the white house approved plone lo— as the white house approved plans to provide— as the white house approved plans to provide f—16 fighter lele— plans to provide f—16 fighter lele lo— plans to provide f—16 fighter jets to ukraine— plans to provide f—16 fighter jets to ukraine and to train its pllole. — jets to ukraine and to train its pilots. president— jets to ukraine and to train its pilots. president zelenskyy has nepeolelly— pilots. president zelenskyy has repeatedly lobbied his western olllee— repeatedly lobbied his western olllee lol— repeatedly lobbied his western allies for air— repeatedly lobbied his western allies for air support and said

the allies for air support and said lne nove— allies for air support and said the move will— allies for air support and said the move will greatly enhance uwolne-e— the move will greatly enhance ukraine's army— the move will greatly enhance ukraine's army in— the move will greatly enhance ukraine's army in the sky. loloun— ukraine's army in the sky. labour claims— ukraine's army in the sky. labour claims there's been a big jump— labour claims there's been a big jump ln— labour claims there's been a big jump ln lne— labour claims there's been a big jump in the number of people dying_ jump in the number of people lylng ln— jump in the number of people lylng ln wol— jump in the number of people dying in a&e amid record waiting llnee— dying in a&e amid record waiting llnee .— dying in a&e amid record waiting llnee. wus— dying in a&e amid record waiting times. nhs trust— dying in a&e amid record waiting times. nhs trust figures show lnon— times. nhs trust figures show more than 23,000 people died in emergency— more than 23,000 people died in emergency departments last year. lnol-e— emergency departments last year. we mo— emergency departments last year. that's 22% more— emergency departments last year. that's 22% more than the year lelone— that's 22% more than the year lelole .— that's 22% more than the year lelole . lne— that's 22% more than the year before . the government says it's before. the government says it's lellwenng— before. the government says it's lelwenng o— before. the government says it's delivering a record— before. the government says it's delivering a record number of leele— delivering a record number of leele epeel— delivering a record number of leele epeel up— delivering a record number of tests speed up discharges and eulllng— tests speed up discharges and cutting waiting— tests speed up discharges and cutting waiting lists . counting cutting waiting lists. counting is cutting waiting lists. counting le eonllnulng— cutting waiting lists. counting is continuing in— cutting waiting lists. counting is continuing in the local eleellone— is continuing in the local elections in— is continuing in the local elections in northern ireland. slnn— elections in northern ireland. slnn leln— elections in northern ireland. sinn fein has— elections in northern ireland. sinn fein has made strong gains and sinn fein has made strong gains onl le— sinn fein has made strong gains onl le on— sinn fein has made strong gains and is on course to— sinn fein has made strong gains and is on course to become the lolgeel— and is on course to become the longeel pony— and is on course to become the longeel pony ln— and is on course to become the largest party in local government, with 125 councillors eleelel. — government, with 125 councillors eleelel. lne— government, with 125 councillors elected. the dup— government, with 125 councillors elected. the dup currently has 105,— elected. the dup currently has loo, onl— elected. the dup currently has loo, onl eo— elected. the dup currently has 105, and so far— elected. the dup currently has 105, and so far the— elected. the dup currently has 105, and so far the alliance party— 105, and so far the alliance lolly noe— 105, and so far the alliance eony noe ne— 105, and so far the alliance party has 46 and police have eelzel— party has 46 and police have eelzel 59— party has 46 and police have seized 59 dogs— party has 46 and police have seized 59 dogs and arrested two people— seized 59 dogs and arrested two people one— seized 59 dogs and arrested two people one o— seized 59 dogs and arrested two people after a fatal dog attack in people after a fatal dog attack ln eleolel— people after a fatal dog attack in greater manchester. 37 year oll— in greater manchester. 37 year oll lonolnon— in greater manchester. 37 year old jonathan hogg was killed in lelgn— old jonathan hogg was killed in lelgn on— old jonathan hogg was killed in leigh on thursday. a 24 year old

man was arrested— leigh on thursday. a 24 year old man was arrested on suspicion of lelng— man was arrested on suspicion of lelng ln— man was arrested on suspicion of pelng ln enolge— man was arrested on suspicion of pelng ln enonge ol— man was arrested on suspicion of being in charge of a— man was arrested on suspicion of being in charge of a dangerous out being in charge of a dangerous oul ol— being in charge of a dangerous oul ol-log,— being in charge of a dangerous out of dog, causing out of control dog, causing leoln. — out of control dog, causing leoln. ano— out of control dog, causing death. and a— out of control dog, causing death. and a 22- out of control dog, causing death. and a 22 year old woman noe— death. and a 22 year old woman noe oleo— death. and a 22 year old woman noe oleo leen— death. and a 22 year old woman has also been arrested on eueplelon— has also been arrested on eueplelon ol— has also been arrested on suspicion of money laundering . suspicion of money laundering. woue— suspicion of money laundering. voue up— suspicion of money laundering. voue up lo— suspicion of money laundering. you're up to date— suspicion of money laundering. you're up to date on tv online poll — you're up to date on tv online poll lollo— you're up to date on tv online dab+ radio and— you're up to date on tv online dab+ radio and on tune in. this is dab+ radio and on tune in. this le en— dab+ radio and on tune in. this le en newe— dab+ radio and on tune in. this is gb news. now— dab+ radio and on tune in. this is gb news. now it's back to lown— is gb news. now it's back to lown .— dawn. well i'm lown- well i'm back. lown— well i'm back. thank you, bethany. right gb news saturday with me dawn neesom on your tv onune with me dawn neesom on your tv online and on digital radio. now now, the sussexes have been making the headlines in the american tabloids and, well, let's face it here as well , all let's face it here as well, all over the place, to be honest with you, for alleged demanding a entertainment photo agency a us entertainment photo agency provides of photos that provides copies of photos that were taken of the couple in what they claim was a near catastrophic car chase by paparazzi in new york this week

. and today we are discussing whether there is a difference between the uk and us paparazzi . so joining me now is former royal correspondent for the sun and a complete expert on how paparazzi and news reporters operate. the legendary charles rea charles, thank you so much for joining me this afternoon. and what do you make as an expert in this field, someone that's worked covering the rolls for many, many years, what do you make of what you've seen this week? well, i have to say, noel— this week? well, i have to say, llnel ol— this week? well, i have to say, llnel ol oll— this week? well, i have to say, first of all, that— , well, i have to say, first of all, that meghan and holly— first of all, that meghan and pony nove— first of all, that meghan and harry have now— first of all, that meghan and harry have now become the most lulleloue— harry have now become the most lulleloue poll— harry have now become the most ludicrous pair in— harry have now become the most ludicrous pair in the world, to be peneelly— ludicrous pair in the world, to be perfectly honest with this , be perfectly honest with this, we— be perfectly honest with this, this fantastic— be perfectly honest with this, this fantastic claim of this near catastrophic, um , car near catastrophic, um, car goe-n — near catastrophic, um, car crash. nothing— near catastrophic, um, car crash. nothing catastrophic. one of crash. nothing catastrophic. one ol lne— crash. nothing catastrophic. one ol lne lnlnge— crash. nothing catastrophic. one of the things you— crash. nothing catastrophic. one of the things you need to know is of the things you need to know le lnol— of the things you need to know le lnol lne— of the things you need to know is that the average speed in wonnollon— is that the average speed in manhattan is— is that the average speed in manhattan is 4.7mph. you cannot lovel— manhattan is 4.7mph. you cannot llowel ony— manhattan is 4.7mph. you cannot travel any faster— manhattan is 4.7mph. you cannot travel any faster in— manhattan is 4.7mph. you cannot travel any faster in manhattan , travel any faster in manhattan, but travel any faster in manhattan, lul lnele— travel any faster in manhattan, lul lnene le— travel any faster in manhattan, but there is no— travel any faster in manhattan, but there is no doubt that the wool— but there is no doubt that the word paparazzi— but there is no doubt that the word paparazzi following the

couple— word paparazzi following the eouple onl— word paparazzi following the couple and clearly we saw if you loolel— couple and clearly we saw if you loolel ol— couple and clearly we saw if you looked at social— couple and clearly we saw if you looked at social media, we saw poponozzl — looked at social media, we saw poponozzl oounl— looked at social media, we saw paparazzi around the taxi for wnen— paparazzi around the taxi for wnlen lon— paparazzi around the taxi for which for some— paparazzi around the taxi for which for some bizarre reason, lney— which for some bizarre reason, lney noo— which for some bizarre reason, lney nol gol— which for some bizarre reason, they had got out— which for some bizarre reason, they had got out of their lloelel— they had got out of their blacked out— they had got out of their blacked out suv to get into the lowl— blacked out suv to get into the loxl lo— blacked out suv to get into the loxl lo le— blacked out suv to get into the taxi, to be driven— blacked out suv to get into the taxi, to be driven by it's sunny slngn— taxi, to be driven by it's sunny slngn wno— taxi, to be driven by it's sunny singh, who must— taxi, to be driven by it's sunny singh, who must now become the noel— singh, who must now become the noel lonoue— singh, who must now become the most famous taxi _ singh, who must now become the most famous taxi driver, not only— most famous taxi driver, not only ln— most famous taxi driver, not only ln wew— most famous taxi driver, not only in new york, but the world. unn — only in new york, but the world. unn eo— only in new york, but the world. unn eo youe— only in new york, but the world. unn eo you gol— only in new york, but the world. um so you've got this paparazzi. they— um so you've got this paparazzi. lney wee— um so you've got this paparazzi. they were taking— um so you've got this paparazzi. they were taking pictures . what they were taking pictures. what i they were taking pictures. what l oonl— they were taking pictures. what i don't understand really, is lnol— i don't understand really, is lnol lne— i don't understand really, is that the couple— i don't understand really, is that the couple had, if you lne,— that the couple had, if you epe, leen— that the couple had, if you like, been at— that the couple had, if you like, been at an- that the couple had, if you like, been at an event earlier lnene— like, been at an event earlier lnele wee— like, been at an event earlier on. there were legitimate photographs— on. there were legitimate photographs taken of them onlwng— photographs taken of them arriving and— photographs taken of them arriving and of— photographs taken of them arriving and of them leaving . arriving and of them leaving. now:— arriving and of them leaving. wow, lne— arriving and of them leaving. now, the value— arriving and of them leaving. now, the value of the photograph lougne— now, the value of the photograph lougne non — now, the value of the photograph laughs from the— now, the value of the photograph laughs from the back of the taxi . vou— laughs from the back of the taxi . you know — laughs from the back of the taxi . you know, don,— laughs from the back of the taxi . you know, don, you're a former elllon— . you know, don, you're a former elllon oe— . you know, don, you're a former editor as well. _ . you know, don, you're a former editor as well. you— . you know, don, you're a former editor as well. you got official pnolognopne— editor as well. you got official photographs that— editor as well. you got official photographs that showed the couple.— photographs that showed the couple sne— photographs that showed the couple. she looked lovely . she couple. she looked lovely. she weonng— couple. she looked lovely. she weonng o— couple. she looked lovely. she was wearing a fantastic dress onl— was wearing a fantastic dress onl ewenylnlng— was wearing a fantastic dress and everything else for them , and everything else for them, ellllng— and everything else for them, ellllng ln— and everything else for them, sitting in the— and everything else for them, sitting in the back of a taxi . sitting in the back of a taxi. woue— sitting in the back of a taxi. voue nol— sitting in the back of a taxi. you're not going— sitting in the back of a taxi. you're not going to be paying muon— you're not going to be paying nuen money— you're not going to be paying much money for— you're not going to be paying much money for those. we

woulln-l— much money for those. we wouldn't print— much money for those. we wouldn't print them in this eounlny— wouldn't print them in this eounlny-we- wouldn't print them in this country we have no country because we have no llllelenl— country because we have no different rules— country because we have no different rules in— country because we have no different rules in this country. we different rules in this country. we lo— different rules in this country. we lo nol— different rules in this country. we do not have— different rules in this country. we do not have paparazzi chases ye ln— we do not have paparazzi chases ye l-n nol— we do not have paparazzi chases anymore. i'm not saying the poponozzl— anymore. i'm not saying the paparazzi don't— anymore. i'm not saying the paparazzi don't operate . they do paparazzi don't operate. they do operole— paparazzi don't operate. they do opelole. nul— paparazzi don't operate. they do openole. nul we— paparazzi don't operate. they do operate. but we, the british pee— operate. but we, the british pee lo— operate. but we, the british peee lo nol— operate. but we, the british press, do not print those photographs— press, do not print those photographs . rwy press, do not print those photographs. rwy clip press, do not print those photographs . rwy clip press, do not print those- photographs. why do you think they have issued? i mean, this is obviously your opinion. we don't know exactly what happened. and recollections always vary. these days, don't they? why do you think they issued the statement using the language they did? what was what was the point of doing it in that way? well i think the point of doing it is because it suits harry's mantra about, oh, woe is me, poor me, i'm always getting hassled by these nasty photographers and nasty news reports and everything else. i think that is why the issued lnol— think that is why the issued that statement. _ think that is why the issued that statement. it's a very llzonely— that statement. it's a very bizarrely worded statement . now, bizarrely worded statement. now, lney— bizarrely worded statement. now, lney lll— bizarrely worded statement. now, lney lll nol— bizarrely worded statement. now, they did not use— bizarrely worded statement. now, they did not use the phrase high epeel,— they did not use the phrase high epeel, lul— they did not use the phrase high epeel, lul lne— they did not use the phrase high speed, but the implication was by lne— speed, but the implication was by lne very— speed, but the implication was by the very nature of a near

oolol— by the very nature of a near qatar strophic_ by the very nature of a near qatar strophic car chase that it ol— qatar strophic car chase that it was of some speed . and if you was of some speed. and if you look— was of some speed. and if you look ol— was of some speed. and if you look ol oll— was of some speed. and if you look at all the— was of some speed. and if you look at all the analysis, as i nove— look at all the analysis, as i have over the— look at all the analysis, as i have over the last few days of lnen,— have over the last few days of lnen, lon— have over the last few days of them, for some— have over the last few days of them, for some reason driving oounl— them, for some reason driving oounl ln— them, for some reason driving around in their— them, for some reason driving around in their suv for an hour onl— around in their suv for an hour onl o— around in their suv for an hour onl o guonen— around in their suv for an hour and a quarter with— around in their suv for an hour and a quarter with paparazzi lenlnl— and a quarter with paparazzi behind them.— and a quarter with paparazzi behind them. but let's not lolgel,— behind them. but let's not forget, there— behind them. but let's not forget, there was also nypd cars lnene— forget, there was also nypd cars lnene oe— forget, there was also nypd cars lnene oe well— forget, there was also nypd cars lnene oe well .— forget, there was also nypd cars there as well . so— forget, there was also nypd cars there as well . so they then go there as well. so they then go to there as well. so they then go lo lne— there as well. so they then go lo lne pollee— there as well. so they then go to the police station, the 19th pleelnel— to the police station, the 19th precinct police _ to the police station, the 19th precinct police station, and lnen— precinct police station, and lnen lnen— precinct police station, and then their bodyguard comes out and then their bodyguard comes out onl gele— then their bodyguard comes out onl gele lne— then their bodyguard comes out and gets the taxi _ then their bodyguard comes out and gets the taxi driver to slow lown— and gets the taxi driver to slow lown. ano— and gets the taxi driver to slow lown. anl oel— and gets the taxi driver to slow down. and ask him if he wants to nove— down. and ask him if he wants to nowe o— down. and ask him if he wants to nowe o leol— down. and ask him if he wants to have a fear and— down. and ask him if he wants to have a fear and he— down. and ask him if he wants to have a fear and he then drives oounl— have a fear and he then drives oounl lol— have a fear and he then drives around for about— have a fear and he then drives around for about 10 to 15 nlnulee— around for about 10 to 15 minutes and— around for about 10 to 15 minutes and goes back to the pole— minutes and goes back to the police station.— minutes and goes back to the police station. now, bizarrely, the police station. now, bizarrely, lne couple— police station. now, bizarrely, the couple were— police station. now, bizarrely, the couple were actually staying two the couple were actually staying lwo lloele— the couple were actually staying two blocks away— the couple were actually staying two blocks away from that very pollee— two blocks away from that very police station.— two blocks away from that very police station. so— two blocks away from that very police station. so why on earth he police station. so why on earth ne llln-l— police station. so why on earth ne llln-l go— police station. so why on earth he didn't go there— police station. so why on earth he didn't go there in the first ploeee— he didn't go there in the first ploeee l— he didn't go there in the first ploeee l know— he didn't go there in the first place? i know that he they've oul— place? i know that he they've come out and— place? i know that he they've come out and said it's because lney— come out and said it's because lney llln-l— come out and said it's because they didn't want— come out and said it's because they didn't want to intrude on lnen— they didn't want to intrude on their friends— they didn't want to intrude on their friends security. well, you— their friends security. well, you know— their friends security. well, you lnow ,— their friends security. well, you know , they— their friends security. well, you know , they certainly have you know, they certainly have lnllulel— you know, they certainly have lnllulel on— you know, they certainly have intruded on someone's security at intruded on someone's security ol-eloge— intruded on someone's security ol-eloge .— intruded on someone's security ol-eloge . onl,— intruded on someone's security at-stage . and, you- intruded on someone's security at stage . and, you know, at this stage. and, you know,

lney— at this stage. and, you know, lney gove— at this stage. and, you know, lney gowe oll— at this stage. and, you know, they gave old sonny the taxi lower— they gave old sonny the taxi lnwen eso- — they gave old sonny the taxi driver $50. but— they gave old sonny the taxi driver $50. but a $17 for a $17, ten driver $50. but a $17 for a $17, len nlnule— driver $50. but a $17 for a $17, ten minute taxi _ driver $50. but a $17 for a $17, ten minute taxi drive. he must be ne— ten minute taxi drive. he must be ne nuel— ten minute taxi drive. he must be ne nuel le— ten minute taxi drive. he must be he must be thinking it's nowelloue— be he must be thinking it's marvellous. and you can imagine lounele— marvellous. and you can imagine now tourists will— marvellous. and you can imagine now tourists will be _ marvellous. and you can imagine now tourists will be hunting for we— now tourists will be hunting for we low — now tourists will be hunting for this taxi driver— now tourists will be hunting for this taxi driver because they wonl— this taxi driver because they wonl lo — this taxi driver because they wonl lo ell— this taxi driver because they want to sit in— this taxi driver because they want to sit in that cab and pay nln— want to sit in that cab and pay nln noe— want to sit in that cab and pay him more money— want to sit in that cab and pay him more money just to drive ooun-l— him more money just to drive ooun-l wow,— him more money just to drive around. now, obviously , charlie, around. now, obviously, charlie, you— around. now, obviously, charlie, you know— around. now, obviously, charlie, you know lne— around. now, obviously, charlie, you know the old— around. now, obviously, charlie, you know the old chestnut of people— you know the old chestnut of people pelng— you know the old chestnut of people being sceptical about wnol— people being sceptical about wnol nony— people being sceptical about what harry and— people being sceptical about what harry and meghan have leeenlel— what harry and meghan have described as— what harry and meghan have described as this near catastrophic- described as this near catastrophic chase has reared the catastrophic chase has reared lne oll— catastrophic chase has reared the old chestnut— catastrophic chase has reared the old chestnut of, you know well— the old chestnut of, you know well ll-e— the old chestnut of, you know well, it's harry— the old chestnut of, you know well, it's harry and meghan. you-e— well, it's harry and meghan. you're never going— well, it's harry and meghan. you're never going to- well, it's harry and meghan. you're never going to like them. you're never going to like them. you're going believe you're never going to believe anything because you're anything they say because you're racists. what's your reaction to that? well i think that's a stupid thing for anyone to accuse people of saying that. the racists i've said to you lelone— the racists i've said to you lelole ,— the racists i've said to you before , dawn,— the racists i've said to you before , dawn, we welcome this before, dawn, we welcome this lnlo— before, dawn, we welcome this woman into britain. we welcome this woman into britain. we welcome lnle wonon— woman into britain. we welcome lnle lnlo— woman into britain. we welcome this woman into the royal lonlly— this woman into the royal lonlly. lney— this woman into the royal family. they could not have bent over more backwards to make her so over more backwards to make her eo weleoe ano— over more backwards to make her so welcome. and i— over more backwards to make her so welcome. and i can tell you, as a veteran of— so welcome. and i can tell you, as a veteran of watching these lnlnge— as a veteran of watching these lnlnge go— as a veteran of watching these lnlnge go on— as a veteran of watching these things go on, she—

as a veteran of watching these things go on, she was more weleonel— things go on, she was more welcomed into— things go on, she was more welcomed into the royal family lnon— welcomed into the royal family lnon people— welcomed into the royal family than people like— welcomed into the royal family than people like princess diana or than people like princess diana on lne— than people like princess diana or the duchess— than people like princess diana or the duchess of— than people like princess diana or the duchess of york were weleonel— or the duchess of york were welcomed. you— or the duchess of york were welcomed. you know, kate had a leoeonolly— welcomed. you know, kate had a reasonably good,— welcomed. you know, kate had a reasonably good, good time to get reasonably good, good time to gel lnlo— reasonably good, good time to gel lnlo lne— reasonably good, good time to get into the royal family. but wegnon— get into the royal family. but negnon oe— get into the royal family. but meghan was, you know, the enonplon— meghan was, you know, the enonplon ol— meghan was, you know, the champion of it— meghan was, you know, the champion of it all. and i have to champion of it all. and i have lo eoy— champion of it all. and i have lo eoy ,— champion of it all. and i have lo eoy , ll-e— champion of it all. and i have to say , it's one— champion of it all. and i have to say , it's one of— champion of it all. and i have to say , it's one of the things to say, it's one of the things i elnongly— to say, it's one of the things i elnongly opp-eel— to say, it's one of the things i strongly object to— to say, it's one of the things i strongly object to is harry eoylng— strongly object to is harry 5aying tbings— strongly object to is harry saying things like like this. we— saying things like like this. this near—catastrophic raid was the this near—catastrophic raid was lne eloeeel— this near—catastrophic raid was lne eloeeel l— this near—catastrophic raid was the closest i have— this near—catastrophic raid was the closest i have ever been fell— the closest i have ever been lell lo— the closest i have ever been felt to understanding what noppenel— felt to understanding what noppenel ln— felt to understanding what happened in 1997 when his nolnen— happened in1997 when his mother, diana,— happened in 1997 when his mother, diana, princess of wolee— mother, diana, princess of wales, died.— mother, diana, princess of wales, died. well, harry, let me lenlnl— wales, died. well, harry, let me lenlnl you— wales, died. well, harry, let me remind you, unfortunately, when she remind you, unfortunately, when ene peg,— remind you, unfortunately, when ene gee, ene— remind you, unfortunately, when she died, she was— remind you, unfortunately, when she died, she was driven through lnol— she died, she was driven through lnol lunnel— she died, she was driven through that tunnel at— she died, she was driven through that tunnel at speed by a lounlen— that tunnel at speed by a drunken driver. yes paparazzi lenlnl— drunken driver. yes paparazzi were behind him, but they weenl— were behind him, but they weren't chasing her. they were lollowlng— weren't chasing her. they were lollowlng nel— weren't chasing her. they were following her in— weren't chasing her. they were following her in a— weren't chasing her. they were following her in a tunnel . following her in a tunnel. lnleel— following her in a tunnel. lnleel — following her in a tunnel. indeed yeah.— following her in a tunnel. indeed “lie" “lie" indeed yeah. yeah, that's charlie . a very strong opinion, charlie. a very strong opinion, as always. thank you very much for joining us this afternoon. charlie but let us know what you think. you've heard what charlie's got to say. you've seen all the newspaper coverage.

what think? gb views at what do you think? gb views at gb news .uk. what do you think about harry and meghan and what they've this what's they've said this week? what's happened at and the claims that people are making about what actually happened on that day . actually happened on that day. some of you have already got in touch and this is mostly on rishi sunak so far because obviously he is out in japan at that 67 obviously he is out in japan at that g7 summit, isn't he? martin oh, good afternoon, martin . oh, good afternoon, martin. rishi has gone soft. it's one thing saying that immigration is too high, but deep down, he knows we need people to come and work more we've needed work more than we've ever needed before. patrick from before. meanwhile patrick from kent. good afternoon . patrick kent. good afternoon. patrick says migration shouldn't be rising at all with any of the parties. if they did their job properly, they are all very well paid for it. very fair point indeed. paid for it. very fair point indeed . and peter from indeed. and peter from colchester . good afternoon. colchester. good afternoon. peter says it isn't the legal immigration that's a problem. it needs to be controlled. it's the illegal immigration that is a problem and the cost of keeping these people well, thank you very much for those views and do

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channel. britain is watching . channel. britain is watching. welcome back to gb news channel. britain is watching. - welcome back to gb news saturday with welcome back to gb news saturday wlln ne— welcome back to gb news saturday wlln ne down— welcome back to gb news saturday with me dawn neesom on your tv, onllne— with me dawn neesom on your tv, onllne onl— with me dawn neesom on your tv, onllne onl on— with me dawn neesom on your tv, online and on digital radio. now leennology— online and on digital radio. now technology firms— online and on digital radio. now technology firms are planning to cut thousands— technology firms are planning to cut thousands of— technology firms are planning to cut thousands of jobs as they pnepone— cut thousands of jobs as they pnepone lo— cut thousands of jobs as they prepare to shift— cut thousands of jobs as they prepare to shift to the use of onlllelol— prepare to shift to the use of artificial intelligence and oulonolel— artificial intelligence and automated services . bt group has automated services. bt group has eoll— automated services. bt group has eoll lnol— automated services. bt group has eoll lnol ol— automated services. bt group has said that of the— automated services. bt group has said that of the 55,000 job cuts by lne — said that of the 55,000 job cuts by lne enl — said that of the 55,000 job cuts by lne enl ol— said that of the 55,000 job cuts by the end of the— said that of the 55,000 job cuts by the end of the decade , 10,000 by the end of the decade, 10,000 of by the end of the decade, 10,000 ol lnen— by the end of the decade, 10,000 ol lnen wlll— by the end of the decade, 10,000 of them will be _ by the end of the decade, 10,000 of them will be replaced with al. of them will be replaced with al so— of them will be replaced with al so oe— of them will be replaced with al so we— of them will be replaced with al. so are we on— of them will be replaced with al. so are we on the brink of a ai. so are we on the brink of a role— ai. so are we on the brink of a mass job? losses— ai. so are we on the brink of a mass job? losses or does this repreeenl— mass job? losses or does this repreeenl on— mass job? losses or does this represent an opportunity , represent an opportunity, lnprowe— represent an opportunity, improve people's lives and allow us improve people's lives and allow ue lo— improve people's lives and allow ue lo worl— improve people's lives and allow us to work smarter?— improve people's lives and allow us to work smarter? joining me le— us to work smarter? joining me now is technology— us to work smarter? joining me now is technology journalist

wlll— now is technology journalist wlll wngnl— now is technology journalist will wright and ceo and founder of will wright and ceo and founder ol azure— will wright and ceo and founder ol azure al— will wright and ceo and founder ol azure al ,— will wright and ceo and founder of azure ai , tonya— will wright and ceo and founder of azure ai , tonya samsonova . of azure ai, tonya samsonova. onoy. — of azure ai, tonya samsonova. onoy. all— of azure ai, tonya samsonova. oloy. all ngnl.— of azure ai, tonya samsonova. okay. all right. well, i'm going to okay. all right. well, i'm going lo corne— okay. all right. well, i'm going lo lo— okay. all right. well, i'm going lo lo you— okay. all right. well, i'm going to come to you first because lull— to come to you first because full confession— to come to you first because full confession here. i don't even understand what i actually is. even understand what i actually le. so— even understand what i actually le. so ll— even understand what i actually le. so ll you— even understand what i actually is. so if you could— even understand what i actually is. so if you could just give me lne— is. so if you could just give me lne lllol-e— is. so if you could just give me the idiot's guide— is. so if you could just give me the idiot's guide to what ai oeluolly— the idiot's guide to what ai oeluolly le— the idiot's guide to what ai oeluolly le . — the idiot's guide to what ai actually is . so- the idiot's guide to what ai actually is . e : actually is. so it's the idea that this is artificial intelligence. it's a computer or a computer program or a piece of computer code that's going to start making decisions for us, making statements for us, doing things for us. it can be used for all manner of different things in the world. we've all got very interested over the last couple of months because of the rise of something called a chat bot and the idea is of a chat bot and the idea is of a chat bot and the idea is of a chat bot is you can ask a chat bot is you can ask it a question come back question and it will come back with answer . it's not with a detailed answer. it's not like google though, because you with a detailed answer. it's not like g say.e though, because you with a detailed answer. it's not like g say to :hough, because you with a detailed answer. it's not like g say to it,ugh, because you with a detailed answer. it's not like g say to it, create ecause you with a detailed answer. it's not like g say to it, create me se you with a detailed answer. it's not like g say to it, create me some] could say to it, create me some computer or create me computer code or create me anything in sort of certain lines of work. you can use that kind of technology for at the moment. so it's growing really

quickly. dawn and the fear amongst some is that one day we were working towards what you call artificial general intelligence , and that means intelligence, and that means this technology becomes more intelligent than human intelligent than us, the human beings and that's something that some forefathers and the some of the forefathers and the founding, founding parents founding, the founding parents of ai are talking about right now. personally , albie, now. but me personally, albie, i think hope and i pray it think and i hope and i pray it gets used positively and it can be additive. it can actually improve the human experience in life hopefully we don't find life and hopefully we don't find it being used of it just being used for all of the negative things that are being picked like being picked up like the prediction 300 prediction that there's 300 million losses in the next million job losses in the next ten there's also some ten years. there's also some really that you can really good stuff that you can do intelligence, do with artificial intelligence, and the human and it could make the human experience better. right? and it could make the human experience better . right? okay experience better. right? okay but experience better. right? okay nul pup,— experience better. right? okay nul pm, you— experience better. right? okay but but, you know,— f right? okay but but, you know, there are concerns that— but but, you know, there are concerns that 300 million poelllone— concerns that 300 million positions are— concerns that 300 million positions are at- concerns that 300 million positions are at risk because of ai. positions are at risk because of al pony.— positions are at risk because of al pony. l— positions are at risk because of al lonyo, r neon— positions are at risk because of ai. tonya, i mean, you can you lell— ai. tonya, i mean, you can you lell ne— ai. tonya, i mean, you can you lell me o— ai. tonya, i mean, you can you tell me a little— ai. tonya, i mean, you can you tell me a little bit— ai. tonya, i mean, you can you tell me a little bit about what you— tell me a little bit about what you wnol— tell me a little bit about what you wnol your— tell me a little bit about what you what your your your foundation— you what your your your foundation actually does ? rollin foundation actually does? well, loeleolly— foundation actually does? well, loeleolly. we— foundation actually does? well, basically, we develop- foundation actually does? well, basically, we develop artificial intelligence at draghi . and we intelligence at draghi. and we know that the technology , while

know that the technology, while it's very beautiful, it's limited. and without the human in the loop, you can't develop ai. so i'm not scared at all that at any place will replace us. on the other hand , draghi us. on the other hand, draghi offers artists and creators to be able to train their own ai. so even if you don't have any background of on computer, on machine learning, you have to be able to deal with the technology. because now in 2023, i believe every person, no matter what he is doing, should have access to technology and should be able to train their own artificial intelligence algorithms. it's not just for the engineering community or for those like people with with who are good in maths. it's for everyone here. and our mission is to make sure that every person can leverage the technology and increase the income that they receive . so income that they receive. so i believe that with the development of ai, each and every one of us will be just a little bit more happy and rich .

little bit more happy and rich. it's well, i can see you sort of llle— it's well, i can see you sort of llle enollng— it's well, i can see you sort of like shaking your— it's well, i can see you sort of like shaking your head slightly were.— like shaking your head slightly lnere. ll-e— like shaking your head slightly there. it's not— like shaking your head slightly there. it's not just me that's wornel— there. it's not just me that's worried about— there. it's not just me that's worried about this. right. okay. it's worried about this. right. okay. ll-e-oleo— worried about this. right. okay. ll-e-oleo l— worried about this. right. okay. it's-also i think- it's like it's also i think sllng— it's like it's also i thinki sllng—lnle it's like it's also i think- sting_this week. sting has come out this week. olwlouely— sting has come out this week. obviously—and. sting has come out this week.. obviously—and said obviously the musician and said ne-e—ll-e- he's worried the effect it's going— he's worried the effect it's golng-on- he's worried the effect it'si going-on-music going to have on the music lnluelry. — going to have on the music industry. _had- going to have on the music industry. had teachers industry. we've had teachers eonlng— industry. we've had teachers eonlng-onl— industry. we've had teachers coming and saying they're industry. we've had teachers coming aboutid saying they're industry. we've had teachers coming about the tying they're industry. we've had teachers coming about the effects ey're industry. we've had teachers coming about the effects onre industry. we've had teachers coming about the effects on on worried about the effects on on elueollon. — worried about the effects on on education. and— worried about the effects on on education. and i— worried about the effects on on education. and i believe already in education. and i believe already ln l— education. and i believe already ln l lnlnl— education. and i believe already ln l lnlnl ll-e— education. and i believe already in i think it's a— education. and i believe already in i think it's a state of new york— in i think it's a state of new york onl— in i think it's a state of new york and japan— in i think it's a state of new york and japan schools and eollegee— york and japan schools and colleges there— york and japan schools and colleges there have already lonnel— colleges there have already banned pupils— colleges there have already banned pupils from doing coursework— banned pupils from doing coursework on— banned pupils from doing coursework on their own. they nowe — coursework on their own. they nowe lo — coursework on their own. they nowe lo lo — coursework on their own. they nowe lo lo ll— coursework on their own. they have to do it under supervision leeouee— have to do it under supervision leeouee l— have to do it under supervision leeouee l eon— have to do it under supervision because i can do— have to do it under supervision because i can do it— have to do it under supervision because i can do it for them . have to do it under supervision because i can do it for them. i nlgnly— because i can do it for them. i remain highly positive- because i can do it for them. i remain highly positive about . remain highly positive about. sorry, sorry. can we let's go to will first. will, what do you llle— will first. will, what do you llle lo— will first. will, what do you llle lo eoyl— will first. will, what do you llle lo eoye l— will first. will, what do you like to say? i remain- �*fll�* ll �*" will, what do you like to say? i remain highly poellwe— like to say? i remain highly positive about. _ like to say? i remain highly positive about. "

these these chat bots, these machines, these sort of the algorithms, machine the algorithms, the machine, the code and more code base, bigger and more reliable, are being paid near minimum wage the us. so do minimum wage in the us. so do not believe that the artificial intelligence revolution is going to increase all of our salaries. just do not believe true. just do not believe that's true. whether can make our whether or not it can make our lives maybe we can work lives better, maybe we can work slightly maybe some of the slightly less. maybe some of the more menial tasks roles more menial tasks in our roles in our lives will be taken over by artificial intelligence. but dawn, is an storm dawn, there is an absolute storm coming here. it's fantastic that other people who don't know how coming here. it's fantastic that otiuse)eople who don't know how coming here. it's fantastic that otiuse machineio don't know how coming here. it's fantastic that otiuse machine learning

would you like to respond? yeah, sure. i mean , sorry, i'm yeah, sure. i mean, sorry, i'm pp...— yeah, sure. i mean, sorry, i'm ope, l— yeah, sure. i mean, sorry, i'm ope, l nove— yeah, sure. i mean, sorry, i'm ope, l nowe o— yeah, sure. i mean, sorry, i'm like, i have a strong opinion on lnol.— like, i have a strong opinion on lnol. l— like, i have a strong opinion on lnol. l oon-l— like, i have a strong opinion on that. i don't think— like, i have a strong opinion on that. i don't think that at any polnl— that. i don't think that at any polnl ellner— that. i don't think that at any point either of— that. i don't think that at any point either of you or me will be reploeel— point either of you or me will be replaced iai— point either of you or me will be replaced .ai .- point either of you or me will be replaced ai . on the other be replaced by ai. on the other nono— be replaced by ai. on the other nonl, l— be replaced by ai. on the other nonl, l lnlnl— be replaced by ai. on the other hand, i think there— be replaced by ai. on the other hand, i think there is a bit of us hand, i think there is a bit of ue lnol— hand, i think there is a bit of us that irreplaceable , able us that is irreplaceable, able onl— us that is irreplaceable, able onllgulle— us that is irreplaceable, able anquuite agree— us that is irreplaceable, able and quite agree that some and i quite agree that some pone—worli and i quite agree that some. pone—work and i quite agree that some- parts _work can be parts of our mundane work can be reploeel— parts of our mundane work can be reploeel wlln. — parts of our mundane work can be reploeel wlln. l— parts of our mundane work can be replaced with. i also— parts of our mundane work can be replaced with. i also would like to replaced with. i also would like lo eoy— replaced with. i also would like lo eoy lnol— replaced with. i also would like to say that the _ replaced with. i also would like to say that the layoffs that we are experiencing _ to say that the layoffs that we are experiencing now in tech lnluelry— are experiencing now in tech lnluelry oe— are experiencing now in tech industry are not— are experiencing now in tech industry are not caused by rewolullon. — industry are not caused by revolution. they are caused by the revolution. they are caused by lne loll— revolution. they are caused by the fact that— revolution. they are caused by the fact that the— revolution. they are caused by the fact that the economy is iuel— the fact that the economy is iuel nowng— the fact that the economy is just moving forward and eornpoee— just moving forward and companies -to- just moving forward and companies to be more companies want to be more prolllolle. — companies want to be more profitable. and— companies want to be more profitable. and there is a wny— profitable. and there is a reason why why they're doing lnoee— reason why why they're doing those layoffs _ reason why why they're doing those layoffs and those reasons are those layoffs and those reasons purely— those layoffs and those reasons are purely economical because of neoll— are purely economical because of nrexll, leeouee— are purely economical because of brexit, because of— are purely economical because of brexit, because of the war in lne— brexit, because of the war in lne ulrolne.— brexit, because of the war in the ukraine. those are the fundamental— the ukraine. those are the fundamental reasons why eornponee— fundamental reasons why companies are— fundamental reasons why companies are laying off enployeee. — companies are laying off employees. yes, that's true that ol— employees. yes, that's true that ol lnoee— employees. yes, that's true that some of those roles and some of lnoee— some of those roles and some of those functions— some of those roles and some of those functions can— some of those roles and some of those functions can be replaced by ale.— those functions can be replaced by als. nul— those functions can be replaced by ais. but let's— those functions can be replaced by ais. but let's think of people— by ais. but let's think of people wno— by ais. but let's think of people who are who now are loollng— people who are who now are loollng lor— people who are who now are looking for to— people who are who now are looking for to figure out like wnol-e— looking for to figure out like what's their— looking for to figure out like what's their future job would be. lel-e— what's their future job would be. let's think— what's their future job would be. let's think about pupils who

are now studying— be. let's think about pupils who are now studying and they have ai are now studying and they have al ln— are now studying and they have al ln ploee— are now studying and they have ai in place and— are now studying and they have ai in place and we— are now studying and they have ai in place and we have to make lnol— ai in place and we have to make sure that there— ai in place and we have to make sure that there is— ai in place and we have to make sure that there is a— ai in place and we have to make sure that there is a part of nunon— sure that there is a part of human personnel motty that is lrreploeeolle— human personnel motty that is irreplaceable by— human personnel motty that is irreplaceable by no matter what leennology— irreplaceable by no matter what leennology le. — irreplaceable by no matter what technology is. and— irreplaceable by no matter what technology is. and there is a part— technology is. and there is a porl ol— technology is. and there is a pon ol our— technology is. and there is a part of our daily— technology is. and there is a part of our daily routines with wnen— part of our daily routines with wnlen we— part of our daily routines with which we can— part of our daily routines with which we can help ourselves with the which we can help ourselves with lne progreee— which we can help ourselves with lne progreee ln— which we can help ourselves with the progress in place. we use eonpulere— the progress in place. we use eonpulere ,— the progress in place. we use eonpulere , we— the progress in place. we use computers , we use search computers, we use search englnee— computers, we use search englnee we— computers, we use search engines, we use internet , we use engines, we use internet, we use ai. engines, we use internet, we use al lnol— engines, we use internet, we use al lnol loeen-l— engines, we use internet, we use ai. that doesn't mean that all of ai. that doesn't mean that all ol lnoee— ai. that doesn't mean that all of those technologies replacing us, of those technologies replacing yee— of those technologies replacing yee ll-e— of those technologies replacing us, yes, it's quite— of those technologies replacing us, yes, it's quite true that we enoull — us, yes, it's quite true that we enoull le — us, yes, it's quite true that we should be scared— us, yes, it's quite true that we should be scared and we should be very— should be scared and we should be very olerl— should be scared and we should be very olerl oe— should be scared and we should be very alert as a— should be scared and we should be very alert as a as a society, leeouee— be very alert as a as a society, leeouee ll— be very alert as a as a society, because if every— be very alert as a as a society, because if every one person in lnle— because if every one person in we eounlry— because if every one person in this country doesn't have an oplnlon— this country doesn't have an opinion about— this country doesn't have an opinion about al— this country doesn't have an opinion about al , we won't be opinion about al, we won't be one— opinion about al, we won't be olle lo— opinion about al, we won't be olle lo pul— opinion about al, we won't be olle lo pul ln— opinion about al, we won't be able to put in place the proper leglelollon— able to put in place the proper legislation. and— able to put in place the proper legislation. and this is a gueellon— legislation. and this is a question of— legislation. and this is a question of a— legislation. and this is a question of a national debate . question of a national debate. lonyo. — question of a national debate. lonyo. lnol-e— question of a national debate. tanya. that's one— question of a national debate. tanya. that's one that's- question of a national debate. tanya. that's one that's one thing i wanted to raise with you. i mean, even the head of google has said that it can be very if deployed wrongly google has said that it can be verythat if deployed wrongly google has said that it can be verythat he if deployed wrongly google has said that it can be verythat he hasieployed wrongly google has said that it can be verythat he has potentialivrongly and that he has potential dangers keeping awake at dangers keeping him awake at night . this is not really night. this is not really helping like have helping people like me. i have to what the to admit. and what the regulators is involved in, making sure that it doesn't end

up one of those scary sci up like one of those scary sci fi movies we've all seen . fi movies that we've all seen. well, would like to answer well, would you like to answer that one? yeah, there are none. lnol-e— that one? yeah, there are none. lnol-e lne— that one? yeah, there are none. that's the issue _ that one? yeah, there are none. that's the issue you— , yeah, there are none. that's the issue you face at the rnoenl — that's the issue you face at the moment. there— that's the issue you face at the moment. there are— that's the issue you face at the moment. there are no rules in lne— moment. there are no rules in lne-lne— moment. there are no rules in the the government want the uk. the uk government want to the uk. the uk government want lo eouoge— the uk. the uk government want to encourage competition and lnerelore— to encourage competition and lnerelore lo— to encourage competition and therefore do not— to encourage competition and therefore do not want to encourage regulation in the epoe— encourage regulation in the epoe lne— encourage regulation in the space. the blocks currently space. the two blocks currently noel— space. the two blocks currently noel-ln— space. the two blocks currently noel-ln lne— space. the two blocks currently most-in the world. space. the two blocks currently most in the world of most advanced in the world of regulollon— most advanced in the world of regulollon ol— most advanced in the world of regulation of china, who lellewee— regulation of china, who- believes-potentially regulation of china, who belilproblems potentially regulation of china, who belilproblems related entially regulation of china, who belilproblems related to tially real problems related to eplrolllng— real problems related to spiralling out- real problems related to spiralling out of control and lne— spiralling out of control and lne lu— spiralling out of control and lne lu. nul— spiralling out of control and the eu. but as— spiralling out of control and the eu. but as yet nothing in lne— the eu. but as yet nothing in lne un— the eu. but as yet nothing in lne ul. lonyo— the eu. but as yet nothing in the uk. tanya would you like to oll— the uk. tanya would you like to oll epo— the uk. tanya would you like to add response to— the uk. tanya would you like to add response to that ? add response to that? thank you . i add response to that? thank you . l lnlnl— add response to that? thank you . l lnlnl eo— add response to that? thank you . i think so far and up until 2022, the debate about the regulation of technology was only part of the news and about the tech news and it was part for the community of developers and the only developers and technology journalists were discussing these issues . for discussing these issues. for now, we have to face as everyone that this is a political debate for the whole society . this is a for the whole society. this is a question of like that we should discuss within the public policy. british prime minister

should have an opinion about it. i every party should have an opinion about al and people should go to polling stations knowing what their mps is proposing towards ai, because this technology influences daily lives of our children in schools , of teachers, of us using different platforms and everyone should know where their data is stored, who is using them , and stored, who is using them, and whether it's ethically used, and how those companies, especially in mine, is regulated. yeah exactly. last month most mps get in exactly. last month most mps get ln lroulle— exactly. last month most mps get in trouble using— fixerfiug last month most mps get in trouble using twitter or lnen— in trouble using twitter or their mobile— in trouble using twitter or their mobile phone. they don't know— their mobile phone. they don't know enougn— their mobile phone. they don't know enough about artificial intelligence— know enough about artificial intelligence at— know enough about artificial intelligence at the moment and lnol-e— intelligence at the moment and lnol-e wnol— intelligence at the moment and that's what the— intelligence at the moment and that's what the big concern nee.— that's what the big concern nere. ano— that's what the big concern here. and the— that's what the big concern here. and the one final thing i wonl— here. and the one final thing i wonl lo— here. and the one final thing i wonl lo eoy— here. and the one final thing i want to say, whilst we're saying it's want to say, whilst we're saying we golng— want to say, whilst we're saying we gong-pne,— want to say, whilst we're saying it's going fine, humans it's going to be fine, humans ore-eonlrol- it's going to be fine, humans are-controllthis. l are keeping control of this. down— are keeping control of this. dawn,-worked- are keeping control of this. dawn, worked in dawn, you've worked in the newsroom you've had dawn, you've worked in the- newsroom _you've had people newsroom where you've had people elon— newsroom where you've had people eloe—ll- sick, you've had people ill, people— sick, you've had people ill, people-turned- sick, you've had people ill, people turned up sick, you've had people ill, people-turned up or people have turned up drunk or youe— people have turned up drunk or you-we-you— people have turned up drunk or you've-you know,- people have turned up drunk or you've you know, people you've had you know, people unolle— you've had you know, people unable-work.— you've had you know, people unable work. imagine if unable to work. just imagine if i a unable to work. just imagine if l—o eolullon- unable to work. just imagine if i_a solution that. i offered you a solution that worlel— i offered you a solution that worlel aa— i offered you a solution that worked 24 over— i offered you a solution that worked 24 over seven, never eloppel,— worked 24 over seven, never eloppel, nee— worked 24 over seven, never stopped, never fell asleep ,

stopped, never fell asleep, never called _ stopped, never fell asleep, never called in— stopped, never fell asleep, never called in sick. what would you lo— never called in sick. what would you lo oe— never called in sick. what would you lo oe lne— never called in sick. what would you do as the boss— never called in sick. what would you do as the boss of a paper? you— you do as the boss of a paper? you woull— you do as the boss of a paper? you would hire— you do as the boss of a paper? you would hire that over human lelnge— you would hire that over human lelnge-llne,— you would hire that over human beings _time,-you. beings every time, would you now— beings every time, would you nole- — beings every time, would you nole- well— beings every time, would you nole- well l- beings every time, would you not?- well, i mean,- beings every time, would you. not?- well, i mean, very not? right well, i mean, very possibly. i mean, last month, rishi sunak did announce a £100 million to develop a safe million fund to develop a safe form artificial intelligence form of artificial intelligence in and place guardrails in the uk and place guardrails around it. whether we'll actually see any of that come to fruition. and i'm sorry. thank you very much trying you both very much for trying to reassure that's guyatt reassure me. that's will guyatt tech journalist and tonya samsonova . but i'm still samsonova. but i'm still worried. i'm sorry. i would worried. i'm sorry. iwould rather talk to a human. i really want to to a human. it's want to talk to a human. it's been enough most of the been hard enough most of the time any isn't but time in any case, isn't it? but give me a human. any. any case. right. to right. finally let's move to something fun . something that's much more fun. whitby entertain whitby festival will entertain people today celebrate people today to celebrate their fishing , with cooking fishing heritage, with cooking demonstrations from local celebrity chefs discover some of its cultural gems and heritage . its cultural gems and heritage. we sent our reporter anna riley to whitby for the best to whitby to search for the best fish on show . good afternoon, fish on show. good afternoon, don. yes, i'm here at the fish

onl— don. yes, i'm here at the fish onl enlpe— don. yes, i'm here at the fish and chips festival— ler“ yes, i'm here at the fish and chips festival in whitby and i'm and chips festival in whitby and l-n lellgnlel— and chips festival in whitby and i'm delighted to— and chips festival in whitby and i'm delighted to be joined by woelercnel— i'm delighted to be joined by masterchef 2022 winner and eddie seoll. — masterchef 2022 winner and eddie seoll. loge,— masterchef 2022 winner and eddie scott. eddie, tell— masterchef 2022 winner and eddie scott. eddie, tell us— masterchef 2022 winner and eddie scott. eddie, tell us what youe— scott. eddie, tell us what you been— scott. eddie, tell us what you've been doing today. oh well— you've been doing today. oh well lye— you've been doing today. oh well, i've had— you've been doing today. oh well, i've had a— you've been doing today. oh well, i've had a great tour of wnllly— well, i've had a great tour of wnllly . — well, i've had a great tour of whitby . fantastic. - well, i've had a great tour of whitby . 1 volt; ”lg; whitby. fantastic. we're celebrating whitby's maritime heritage and, of course, the amazing seafood . so today i've amazing seafood. so today i've been to the rnli to around the lifeboat. i've been to the local shipyard to that amazing building. one of two shipyards that build fishing boats . then that build fishing boats. then i've been cooking up in the tent, the seafood tent here, some fantastic seafood fish dishes for people to try . just dishes for people to try. just a fantastic, wonderful day to celebrate seafood of yorkshire and whitby, of course. and it's and whitby, of course. and it's a special fish and— and whitby, of course. and it's a special fish and chips- r?“r: will“ rtlzr. and it's a special fish and chips that youe— a special fish and chips that you nole. — a special fish and chips that you've made. i— a special fish and chips that you've made. a special fish and chips that- you've made. i made my amritsari fish and chips. i made it on masterchef . it was. it's masterchef. it was. it's fantastic. it's you take the fish and you coat it in a spicy batter. loads of wonderful aromatic spices. then dip it into a normal batter , a deep fry

into a normal batter, a deep fry your fish. so it looks like fish and chips, but with a little spicy twist. i've got some chilli and lime mushy peas as well. with that, just to add another indian twist. that's what i love to do. have a bit of fusion play with the fusion of european and indian flavours. i cooked another dish well. cooked another dish as well. mussels this time of the year. mussels this time of the year. mussels are a wonderful thing to eat, really summery dish, nothing than a big bowl nothing better than a big bowl of mussels the keralan of mussels with in the keralan way with loads of coconut lime , way with loads of coconut lime, ginger and green chilli . you're ginger and green chilli. you're making me feel hungry.- rg “gs r?“r: rg”rsrs“ rt“ gg you're making me feel hungry. it rg “rgls” el“r: rg”rsrs“ rt“ gg you're making me feel hungry. it sounds lelleloue. — making me feel hungry. it sounds lelleloue. ll— making me feel hungry. it sounds delicious. it really— making me feel hungry. it sounds delicious. it really does. so yeon— delicious. it really does. so yeon ll— delicious. it really does. so yeon, ll lool— delicious. it really does. so yeah, it food does fit into a lol— yeah, it food does fit into a lol ol— yeah, it food does fit into a lol ol our— yeah, it food does fit into a lot of our heritage, doesn't it? ano— lot of our heritage, doesn't it? anl llen — lot of our heritage, doesn't it? anl llen onl— lot of our heritage, doesn't it? and fish and chips. we've been going— and fish and chips. we've been golng pool— and fish and chips. we've been golng pool yeore— and fish and chips. we've been going back years with british llen— going back years with british llen . — going back years with british llen . rl-e— going back years with british dish . it's one— going back years with british dish . it's one of- going back years with british dish . e t rt dish. it's one of these classic dishes that's been around forever. like the full english breakfast fish and chips. it's part of our culture. it's part of heritage . it's probably of the heritage. it's probably the in the uk. the greatest dish in the uk. it's i get so excited about fish and chips. we're at the magpie cafe yesterday and, you know, rick steen went around the world. seafood rick steen went around the world. and seafood rick steen went around the world. and he seafood rick steen went around the world. and he cameood rick steen went around the world. and he came back at the odyssey and he came back at the end of the day to whitby, to the

magpie and because that's magpie cafe, and because that's what we love, that's what we want to eat. it's amazing. and to celebrate, you know, the heritage , the that land heritage, the fish that we land on shores is magnificent on our shores is a magnificent thing. definitely one of my thing. it's definitely one of my favourite dishes of all time. and you said it's got to be nolloel— and you said it's got to be haddock for— and you said it's got to be haddock for you. for me, i'm. r-nn — haddock for you. for me, i'm. r-nn r— haddock for you. for me, i'm. i'm. i live in hull and it's always to be haddock . for always got to be haddock. for me, a bit too is a bit me, cod is a bit too is a bit too juicy for fish and chips. it kind of makes the batter a bit soggy and it has a very it has a strong taste . i feel. i think strong taste. i feel. i think haddock goes really nicely with with the batter and the chips. it's just wonderful. it has to be haddock for me and whenever i think of fish and chips, i think of whitby and sitting in one of those traditional seaside restaurants, big cup of tea loads of bread and butter, mushy peas and curry sauce. it's just a banquet , peas and curry sauce. it's just a banquet, isn't it? and then you've got have jam. you've got to have a jam. roly—poly and custard at the end. that's britain end. it's that's britain isn't it? it such a great british it? it is such a great british llen— it? it is such a great british llen onl— it? it is such a great british llen onl r— i’ it is such a great british dish and i definitely want to go onl— dish and i definitely want to go onl lry— dish and i definitely want to go onl lry eoe— dish and i definitely want to go and try some fish— dish and i definitely want to go and try some fish and chips. now

lnonle—yeonl and try some fish and chips. nowj lnonle—yeon, thanks so much, eddie. so yeah, len— thanks so much, eddie. so yeah, fish—festival- thanks so much, eddie. so yeah, fish—festival fish - fish and chips. festival fish onl— fish and chips. festival fish and-festival- fish and chips. festival fish and-festival on- fish and chips. festival fish and festival on this and chips festival on all this weelenl— and chips festival on all this weekend here— and chips festival on all this weekend here in— and chips festival on all this weekend here in whitby . weekend here in whitby. thank you very— weekend here in whitby. thank you very nuel.— weekend here in whitby. thank you very much. anna. oh, my god . i'm so. i don't know about you, i am absolutely you, but i am absolutely blooming after that blooming starving after that jam. after fish and jam. roly—poly after fish and chips. god . right. you're chips. oh, my god. right. you're watching to gb watching and listening to gb news me. dawn news saturday with me. dawn neesom . lots more coming up on neesom. lots more coming up on the afternoon , the show this afternoon, including latest that including the latest from that 67 including the latest from that g7 summit. so please stay with .

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tweeted that peace will become closer after he was offered f—16 fighter jets and closer after he was offered f—16 fighterjets and a child born this year has less than 1 in 3 chance of becoming a home owner by the time they're 50. so are they facing a life of being generation rent? and should biological males model female swimming costume ? adidas thinks swimming costume? adidas thinks they can and has come under fire for its decision. but what do you think on that one? all that to come but first, here's your news headlines with bethany elsey . news headlines with bethany elsey. dawn, news headlines with bethany elsey . dawn, thank you. good elsey. dawn, thank you. good ollernoon. — elsey. dawn, thank you. good afternoon. here's— dawn, thank you. good afternoon. here's your latest neolllnee— afternoon. here's your latest headlines from _ afternoon. here's your latest headlines from the newsroom at 2:02. — headlines from the newsroom at 2:02. wonl— headlines from the newsroom at 2:02. world leaders have weleonel— 2:02. world leaders have welcomed ukraine's president to the welcomed ukraine's president to lne el— welcomed ukraine's president to lne el eunnll— welcomed ukraine's president to the g7 summit in— welcomed ukraine's president to the g7 summit in japan in. good to the g7 summit in japan in. good lo eee— the g7 summit in japan in. good lo you.— the g7 summit in japan in. good lo you. — the g7 summit in japan in. good lo you. now— the g7 summit in japan in. good to see you. how are— the g7 summit in japan in. good to see you. el”rs lr7 the g7 summit in japan in. good to see you. el”rs 7’ l/rerl“ to see you. how are you? yeah i'm all right, thanks. hi, guys. vladimir zelenskyy— i'm all right, thanks. hi, guys. vladimir zelenskyy met- ”g“ hi, guys. vladimir zelenskyy met with rrlne— vladimir zelenskyy met with prime minister— vladimir zelenskyy met with prime minister rishi sunak , who prime minister rishi sunak, who rellerolel— prime minister rishi sunak, who reiterated the— prime minister rishi sunak, who reiterated the uk's ongoing eupporl— reiterated the uk's ongoing euppon lor— reiterated the uk's ongoing support for the— reiterated the uk's ongoing support for the country in its llgnl—

support for the country in its llgnl ogolnel— support for the country in its fight against russia . rs fight against russia. he also nel— fight against russia. he also nel wlln— fight against russia. he also met with french president emmanuel macron, who, despite who described his presence in japan as a game changer. it says the white house approved plans to provide f—16 fighter jets to ukraine and to train its pilots. president zelenskyy said the move is a major boost to kyivs air power. but russia says it carries colossal risks for the west. white house national security adviser jake sullivan said the plans will roll out over the coming months. we have delivered what we promised . we delivered what we promised. we have given ukraine what- delivered what we promised. we have given ukraine what it- r:rs : : we have given ukraine what it needs loeel— have given ukraine what it needs loeel on— have given ukraine what it needs based on close— have given ukraine what it needs based on close consultations lelween— based on close consultations lelween our— based on close consultations between our military and theirs . anl— between our military and theirs . anl no— between our military and theirs . anl we— between our military and theirs . and now we have— between our military and theirs . and now we have turned to lleeueelone— . and now we have turned to discussions about— . and now we have turned to discussions about improving the ulrolnlon— discussions about improving the wlrolnlon olr— discussions about improving the ukrainian air force— discussions about improving the ukrainian air force as part of long— ukrainian air force as part of long lern— ukrainian air force as part of our long term commitment to ulrolne-e— our long term commitment to ukraine's self—defence. so as lne— ukraine's self—defence. so as lne lrolnlng— ukraine's self—defence. so as the training unfolds in the eonlng— the training unfolds in the coming months, we will work with our coming months, we will work with olllee— coming months, we will work with olllee lo— coming months, we will work with our allies to determine when plonee— our allies to determine when plonee wlll— our allies to determine when planes will be _ our allies to determine when planes will be delivered, who wlll— planes will be delivered, who wlll le— planes will be delivered, who will be delivering them and how nony— will be delivering them and how nony . — will be delivering them and how nony . lolour— will be delivering them and how many . labour claims- will be delivering them and how many . ” “

many. labour claims there's been a big jump in the number of people dying in a&e amid record waiting times. nhs trusts figures show more than 23,000 people died in emergency departments last year. that's 22% more than the year before. the government says it's delivering a record number of tests , speeding up discharges tests, speeding up discharges and cutting waiting lists . and cutting waiting lists. counting is continuing in the local elections in northern ireland. sinn fein has made strong gains and is on course to become the largest party in local government, with 124 councillors elected. the dup currently has 105 kyiv and the alliance party has 47. it's the first electoral test for the party since last year's assembly elections and takes place against the backdrop of the stormont stalemate . a man has stormont stalemate. a man has scaled the front of the bbc building in central london in protest against a historic statue . the man has been seen statue. the man has been seen hammering at this prospero ariel statue, which has been on

display since 1933. campaigners have been calling for its removal as the sculptor eric gill recorded sexually abusing his daughters in his diaries. the metropolitan police are trying to detain him safely. you're up to date on gb news now it's back to dawn . and welcome it's back to dawn. and welcome pool— it's back to dawn. and welcome loel .— it's back to dawn. and welcome loel . lnle— it's back to dawn. and welcome loel . lnle le— it's back to dawn. and welcome back . this is gb— it's back to dawn. and welcome back . this is gb news- e t : and welcome back . this is gb news and i'm back. this is gb news and i'm down— back. this is gb news and i'm dawn neesom.— back. this is gb news and i'm dawn neesom. now we are going to go pool— dawn neesom. now we are going to go loel lo— dawn neesom. now we are going to go pool lo wnol— dawn neesom. now we are going to go back to what is— dawn neesom. now we are going to go back to what is happening in g7 go back to what is happening in el noenl— go back to what is happening in el rnoenl .— go back to what is happening in g7 moment . we— go back to what is happening in g7 moment . we know that g7 moment. we know that zelenelyy— g7 moment. we know that zelenskyy flew _ g7 moment. we know that zelenskyy flew in this morning onl— zelenskyy flew in this morning onl lo— zelenskyy flew in this morning onl lo lne— zelenskyy flew in this morning onl lo lne el— zelenskyy flew in this morning and to the g7 meeting with the worll— and to the g7 meeting with the world leaders— and to the g7 meeting with the world leaders and— and to the g7 meeting with the world leaders and rishi sunak is olwlouely— world leaders and rishi sunak is obviously there— world leaders and rishi sunak is obviously there and joined now by colnenne— obviously there and joined now by catherine forster to explain wnol— by catherine forster to explain wnol noe— by catherine forster to explain what has been— by catherine forster to explain what has been going on. we've zelenelyy— what has been going on. we've seen zelenskyy fly in. so what you— seen zelenskyy fly in. so what you uplole— seen zelenskyy fly in. so what can you update us about what has been— can you update us about what has been noppenlng— can you update us about what has been happening today out there ? been happening today out there? well— been happening today out there? well nels— been happening today out there? well ne-e nol— been happening today out there? well, he's had really— been happening today out there? well, he's had really quite- well, he's had really quite a

productive , active day. in fact, productive, active day. in fact, beginning with the decision by the americans to allow their f—16 jets aukus to go ultimately to ukraine. zelenskyy has been asking for fighter jets for many months. and although they have had some from poland, from slovakia , they haven't been this slovakia, they haven't been this modern fighter jet that they would like so that they believe is potentially a game changer. of course, pilots will have to be trained . it will take time. be trained. it will take time. but but that's a great victor gao arnie for zelenskyy. he's also been having meetings ings face to face meetings with rishi sunak. it was rishi sunak suggestion that he should go to the g7 to help prepare this very night. aren't they the two men? they seem to be. they really are a they seem to be. they really are o gool— they seem to be. they really are a good relationship. ?er“ a good relationship. rishi sunak has really picked up where boris johnson left as the sort of johnson left off as the sort of the leader of the west in terms of galvanising support right from the beginning, right from the beginning of the invasion. so had a meeting .

so they've had a meeting. zelenskyy has also met with giorgia meloni, the italian leader, and interested albie of course, the g7 is primarily primarily these seven wealthy democratic nations as it used to be, the g8 and russia was booted out after it invaded ukraine. but there's also eight other world leaders that have gone along at the invitation of the japanese prime minister, including india. now, zelenskyy has had a 1 to 1 meeting with modi, india's leader , and of modi, india's leader, and of course, india has not proactively supported ukraine in fact, it's taken a lot of discounted oil and gas from russia, who needed to find alternative markets . so the fact alternative markets. so the fact that he has met the indian leader face to face, part of an attempt by by the west to bring in some of these global south, some of these very important developing nations that have

huge buying power and hugely important now and to sort of bfing important now and to sort of bring them into the fold , bring bring them into the fold, bring them into this coalition against what vladimir putin does sound like this particular g7 is more determined to actually get something done. you know, the erlllelene— something done. you know, the erlllelene ol— something done. you know, the criticisms of last— something done. you know, the criticisms of last year's- “rg : you know, the criticisms of last year's g7 , criticisms of last year's g7, wnen— criticisms of last year's g7, wnlen woe— criticisms of last year's g7, which was like— criticisms of last year's g7, which was like a- criticisms of last year's g7, which was like a posh stag do, woenl— which was like a posh stag do, woenl p,— which was like a posh stag do, wasn't it, basically described as. wasn't it, basically described nul— wasn't it, basically described nul lnle— wasn't it, basically described as. but this one— wasn't it, basically described as. but this one seems to be i oon-l— as. but this one seems to be i lon-l lnow— as. but this one seems to be i don't know whether it is because it don't know whether it is because ll le— don't know whether it is because ll le ln— don't know whether it is because rl re rn ropon— don't know whether it is because it is in japan in— don't know whether it is because it is in japan in hiroshima in porlleulon— it is in japan in hiroshima in porlleulor. ll— it is in japan in hiroshima in particular. it does seem to be a muon— particular. it does seem to be a much more serious— particular. it does seem to be a much more serious affair where eweryloly— much more serious affair where eweryloly lnere— much more serious affair where everybody there wants to oeluolly— everybody there wants to actually come- everybody there wants to actually come away with eonelnlng — actually come away with something concrete . e actually come away with something concrete. e e actually come away with something concrete . e e : something concrete. it it does leel— something concrete. it it does leel llle— something concrete. it it does feel like that, doesn't it? and of course, hiroshima, the site of course, hiroshima, the site of the first nuclear bomb and the atrocity and the memory of that. and now here we are all these years later facing very , these years later facing very, very serious challenges and potential threats of world war, not just from russia, but also china , because china's china, because china's manoeuvrings around taiwan , the

manoeuvrings around taiwan, the intention that they seem to have of thinking of invading taiwan hugely serious, not just for that area , but for the world, that area, but for the world, obviously . albie, you know, obviously. albie, you know, semiconductor , but for world semiconductor, but for world security and world peace . so security and world peace. so i think there is a real desire to present a united front, not just towards putin, but also towards china and to say , look, we are china and to say, look, we are unhed china and to say, look, we are united against aggression. you cannot march h into another country and take it over and expect us just to sit on the sidelines. that is not acceptable. so sidelines. that is not acceptable . so yeah, talking of acceptable. so yeah, talking of lolwon— acceptable. so yeah, talking of lolwon llz— acceptable. so yeah, talking of taiwan, liz truss— acceptable. so yeah, talking of taiwan, liz truss .— acceptable. so yeah, talking of taiwan, liz truss . yes,- tt so yeah, talking of taiwan, liz truss . yes, her taiwan, liz truss. yes, her ogoln— taiwan, liz truss. yes, her ogoln noe— taiwan, liz truss. yes, her again has been- taiwan, liz truss. yes, her again has been out there. what noe— again has been out there. what noe ene— again has been out there. what noe ene leen— again has been out there. what has she been doing? what has she been— has she been doing? what has she been eoylng— has she been doing? what has she been eoylng lnol— has she been doing? what has she been saying that might be problematical— been saying that might be problematical to rishi sunak? well— problematical to rishi sunak? well ene-e— problematical to rishi sunak? well, she's clearly— problematical to rishi sunak? well, she's clearly taking- well, she's clearly taking a very tough anti china line and she is not alone in that by any means. there are plenty of people in the conservative party. so ian duncan smith, one

of many who really feel that britain is being much too soft with china . and of course, rishi with china. and of course, rishi sunak during the leadership campaign defined china as a threat . now the language campaign defined china as a threat. now the language has changed and it's an epoch defining challenge. but there are many very worried that , of are many very worried that, of course we have very close economic ties with china. there's huge amounts of chinese money in this country. we also export lots of goods there. so there's terrible things happening in china with the genocide, as we know, to not mention what they might do in taiwan , but it's a very taiwan, but it's a very difficult balancing act, isn't it? so she's really wanting to sort of say, we've got to stick to this and be really, really tough. but it is easier said than done. and she's not the only— than done. and she's not the only wonon— than done. and she's not the only woman causing- “e“ : and she's not the only woman causing rishi “el“ : and she's not the only woman causing rishi sunak prollene— only woman causing rishi sunak proplene lnle— only woman causing rishi sunak problems this week, is she? i mean, suella— problems this week, is she? i mean, suella braverman, what has she mean, suella braverman, what has ene leen— mean, suella braverman, what has ene been long— mean, suella braverman, what has she been doing to— mean, suella braverman, what has she been doing to cause upset onongel— she been doing to cause upset onongel lne— she been doing to cause upset amongst the tory— she been doing to cause upset amongst the tory faithful? yes.

so amongst the tory faithful? yes. so none— amongst the tory faithful? yes. so home secretary— amongst the tory faithful? yes. so home secretary suella- so home secretary suella braverman was at the natcon con conference group of people saying effectively that the current government is going in the wrong direction. many of them feel that it's not sufficiently conservative. kyiv she making it very clear, although she is within the cabinet and therefore supposedly bound by collective cabinet responsibility arnie that she wants to get legal immigration down. of course, we've had huge focus on people crossing on small boats, but next week the figures will be out expected that legal migration to top 700,000 are vast increase on 220 odd thousand. when boris johnson came in in 2019 and was promising to get those numbers down, she's made it clear that she feels the numbers do need to come down and that british people should be picking fruit and driving the lorries and there's no reason why they

shouldn't be. whereas rishi sunak has been pushed on this and is much less clear. he said yes, he wants to get it down from where it was when he came in. well, that was 500,000. so a really clear dividing line and it will be very interesting to see when these figures come out next week how they are, how they are. absolutely and chancellor jeremy— are. absolutely and chancellor jeremy nunl— are. absolutely and chancellor jeremy nunl oe— are. absolutely and chancellor jeremy hunt as well,- e”rs; ersgr and chancellor jeremy hunt as well, also lllerolly— jeremy hunt as well, also literally straight on the back of literally straight on the back ol euello— literally straight on the back of suella braverman saying that eon,— of suella braverman saying that an, no— of suella braverman saying that an, we— of suella braverman saying that said, no, we actually need more people—lo- said, no, we actually need more people—lollnei people in the country to do the role— people in the country to do the role-yee.— people in the country to do the role-yee-lle- people in the country to do the role-yee-lle veryi jobs. well, yes. and it's very interesting, isn't it? because, of course, if you're trying to get are they to get growth, are they talking to each catherine? are they each other, catherine? are they wonder,-actually- each other, catherine? are theyi wonder,-actually.the wonder, are they actually on the ellee— wonder, are they actually on the ellee-ll- wonder, are they actually on the same side? if you're same side? i mean, if you're golng— same side? i mean, if you're goinglget_ same side? i mean, if you're going get growth, of course, going to get growth, of course, liz going to get growth, of course, llz—growln. - going to get growth, of course, llz—growln. wel liz truss, go for growth. we need — liz truss, go for growth. we need grown.— liz truss, go for growth. we need growth. we've- liz truss, go for growth. we need growth. we've had very little of it. our productivity is . the economy is is terrible. the economy is pretty much flatlined . and one pretty much flatlined. and one way of getting growth is bringing more and more people into country they into the country because they produce more and more, pay more and but that doesn't and more tax. but that doesn't mean individuals mean that individuals are becoming any wealthier. in fact, wages have stagnated over the last 13 years while the number

of people in this country has been going up and up and up. so there's a real tension, isn't there, between getting growth, getting the economy growing at any and people's individual any cost and people's individual wealth rising and also the fact that increasingly public services under huge pressure, getting a doctor's appointment, getting a doctor's appointment, getting your kids into a state school, getting seen at the hospital , the rising numbers do hospital, the rising numbers do have an impact on that. and of course, many young people feel how are they ever going to get a home or you've got 500,000 people coming into the country every year. we're not building anything like enough houses, pressure on every single service, isn't it? i mean ,1—1 service, isn't it? i mean, 1—1 eewlee— service, isn't it? i mean, 1—1 eerwee lnol— service, isn't it? i mean, 1—1 service that has— service, isn't it? i mean, 1—1 service that has been- rt.rs; e c7 i mean, 1—1 service that has been put under pressure recently— service that has been put under pressure recently by one man, propolly— pressure recently by one man, proloply nle— pressure recently by one man, probably his family planning . i probably his family planning. i nove— probably his family planning. i nowe lo— probably his family planning. i have to mention— probably his family planning. i have to mention this. i'm sorry . ll— have to mention this. i'm sorry . ll youre— have to mention this. i'm sorry . if you're having— have to mention this. i'm sorry . if you're having your lunch oul— . if you're having your lunch oul lnere. — . if you're having your lunch out there. boris— . if you're having your lunch out there. boris johnson and corne— out there. boris johnson and carrie expecting— out there. boris johnson and carrie expecting baby number lnree— carrie expecting baby number lnree onl— carrie expecting baby number three and the— carrie expecting baby number three and the westminster reoellon— three and the westminster reoellon lo— three and the westminster reaction to this, catherine . reaction to this, catherine. leon— reaction to this, catherine. leon lney— reaction to this, catherine. leon lney ll— reaction to this, catherine.

yeah they it was quite quiet , yeah they it was quite quiet, woenl— yeah they it was quite quiet, woenl pp — yeah they it was quite quiet, wasn't it? t :: r:.rs wasn't it? because suddenly due in a i suppose this is one of the perks of no longer being in government that they haven't been or certainly carrie has been or certainly carrie has been able to get on with her, get on with her life. so baby number three, i mean , i think it number three, i mean, i think it must be quite exhausting for bods must be quite exhausting for boris johnson. little children are quite hard work. they're going to are quite hard work. they're golng lo nove— are quite hard work. they're going to have three- r3 “e”r3 they're going to have three under three, oenl— going to have three under three, oenl lney?— going to have three under three, oenl lneye ll— going to have three under three, aren't they? if my— going to have three under three, aren't they? if my maths is woguely— aren't they? if my maths is woguely agn— aren't they? if my maths is vaguely right, it's a lot. and lye— vaguely right, it's a lot. and he eon— vaguely right, it's a lot. and he eorl ol— vaguely right, it's a lot. and i've sort of lost— vaguely right, it's a lot. and i've sort of lost quite sure how nony— i've sort of lost quite sure how nony onlllren— i've sort of lost quite sure how many children .— i've sort of lost quite sure how many children . i— i've sort of lost quite sure how many children . i don't think he many children. i don't think he is, many children. i don't think he le lo— many children. i don't think he le lo le— many children. i don't think he is, to be honest— many children. i don't think he is, to be honest with you, colnerlne, — is, to be honest with you, catherine, i— is, to be honest with you, catherine, i know that's a onene— cliche, but you know, but i neon-muon- cliche, but you know, but i mean, much reaction cliche, but you know, but i- mean,-much reaction in mean, is there much reaction in weelnlneler— mean, is there much reaction in westminster-it?— mean, is there much reaction in westminster it? are people westminster to it? are people jokin9_ westminster to it? are people iollng—we-ori joking about it like we are or lney— joking about it like we are or lney-on- joking about it like we are or are they oh, that's boris are they going, oh, that's boris lelng— are they going, oh, that's boris pelng none?— are they going, oh, that's boris being boris? well,— are they going, oh, that's boris being boris? well, i, i think lnere-e— being boris? well, i, i think there's some— being boris? well, i, i think there's some humour that , you there's some humour that, you lnow— there's some humour that, you lnow, ll— there's some humour that, you lnow, ll llle— there's some humour that, you know, it fits a— there's some humour that, you know, it fits a pattern doesn't it? know, it fits a pattern doesn't pp — know, it fits a pattern doesn't pp lou— know, it fits a pattern doesn't it? you know— know, it fits a pattern doesn't it? you know ,— know, it fits a pattern doesn't it? you know , boris- know, it fits a pattern doesn't it? you know, boris johnson is some known for his, his love of the ladies and there's a lot of offspring knocking around. it will be interesting to see how it goes down. it's interesting going— it goes down. it's interesting golng noel— it goes down. it's interesting golng pool lo— e g : it's interesting going back to sarah's comments opoul— going back to sarah's comments opoul pnle— going back to sarah's comments about brits forgetting to about brits forgetting how to worl—nowe-

about brits forgetting how to. work—have enough work and we don't have enough people— work and we don't have enough people-lne— work and we don't have enough people-lne lope.- work and we don't have enough people the jobs. maybe work and we don't have enough peoplis the jobs. maybe work and we don't have enough peoplis doingthe jobs. maybe work and we don't have enough peoplis doing hisjobs. maybe work and we don't have enough peoplis doing his bits. maybe work and we don't have enough peoplis doing his bit by/iaybe boris is doing his bit by proluolng— boris is doing his bit by producing go and producing more people to go and do producing more people to go and lo-iope— producing more people to go and lo-iope .— producing more people to go and lo-iope . aloype. — producing more people to go and do jobs . maybe. r3sr“ e do the jobs. maybe. i don't lnoglne— do the jobs. maybe. i don't imagine they'll be working in the fields, though. do you know? no. lorries, boris ? no. driving the lorries, boris? no, indeed . actually. yeah. no, indeed. actually. yeah. aoluolly— no, indeed. actually. yeah. actually, that's— no, indeed. actually. yeah. actually, that's an- \rrsr :: actually. yeah. actually, that's an interesting polnl.— actually, that's an interesting polnl. wnol— actually, that's an interesting polnl. wnol lo— actually, that's an interesting point. what do you think about lnle— point. what do you think about we on— point. what do you think about this gb views— point. what do you think about this gb views at— point. what do you think about this gb views at gb news? epwlwsul— this gb views at gb news? gbnews.uk. what do you think? pone— gbnews.uk. what do you think? pone ronneon— gbnews.uk. what do you think? boris johnson more babies . is he boris johnson more babies. is he lolng— boris johnson more babies. is he lolng ple— boris johnson more babies. is he lolng nle pll— boris johnson more babies. is he doing his bit single handedly to sort doing his bit single handedly to eorl oul— doing his bit single handedly to eorl oul our— doing his bit single handedly to sort out our shortage of labour proplen — sort out our shortage of labour proplen ln— sort out our shortage of labour problem in this— sort out our shortage of labour problem in this country? colnenne— problem in this country? catherine foster, thank you very muon— catherine foster, thank you very nuon lor— catherine foster, thank you very much for joining— catherine foster, thank you very much forjoining us. now, now we move on and counting continues in move on and counting continues ln loool— move on and counting continues in local government elections in worlnern— in local government elections in northern ireland.— in local government elections in northern ireland. so far. 383 of the northern ireland. so far. 383 of lne loz— northern ireland. so far. 383 of the 462 seats— northern ireland. so far. 383 of the 462 seats have been counted . slnn— the 462 seats have been counted . slnn reln— the 462 seats have been counted on reln le— the 462 seats have been counted . sinn fein is believed to be in .sinn fein is believed to be in lne— .sinn fein is believed to be in lne leol— .sinn fein is believed to be in lne leol onl— .sinn fein is believed to be in the lead and could— .sinn fein is believed to be in the lead and could be on course to the lead and could be on course lo peoe— the lead and could be on course lo peoe lne— the lead and could be on course to become the largest party in loool— to become the largest party in local government, with 125 councillors— local government, with 125 councillors elected. but the dup len-l— councillors elected. but the dup len-l lor— councillors elected. but the dup isn't far behind— councillors elected. but the dup isn't far behind ,— councillors elected. but the dup isn't far behind , with 109 isn't far behind, with 109 councillors— isn't far behind, with 109 councillors elected . and now our

councillors elected. and now our worlnern— councillors elected. and now our northern ireland— councillors elected. and now our northern ireland reporter dougie peollle— northern ireland reporter dougie peollle iolne— northern ireland reporter dougie beattie joins us— northern ireland reporter dougie beattie joins us now from bangor in beattie joins us now from bangor ln counly— beattie joins us now from bangor ln oounly lown. — beattie joins us now from bangor in county down. dougie, can you prlng— in county down. dougie, can you prlng ue— in county down. dougie, can you prlng ue up— in county down. dougie, can you prlng ue up lo— in county down. dougie, can you bring us up to speed on what's noppenlng— bring us up to speed on what's noppenlng lnle— bring us up to speed on what's happening this afternoon ? yes. happening this afternoon? yes. well— happening this afternoon? yes. well welcome— happening this afternoon? yes. well welcome to— happening this afternoon? yes. well welcome to bangor and thank goolneee— well welcome to bangor and thank goolneee were— well welcome to bangor and thank goodness we're down to double llguree— goodness we're down to double llguree lo— goodness we're down to double llguree lo pe— goodness we're down to double figures to be elected. i think lnere-e— figures to be elected. i think there's about 80 councillors still left to be elected and who knows where they will go. so those two head line numbers will increase. both sinn fein and the dup. but i suppose the headline here is that sinn fein has managed to get their vote out. they are up considerably on their last vote , so they have their last vote, so they have managed to become the largest party in local government. well, it looks to be set that way and really, you know , there were 125 really, you know, there were 125 seats there, plus 25. the dup has returning pretty much as you were. their vote hasn't went down, it's stabilised. and that is extremely important because chris heaton—harris, of course, is secretary of state is basically now a direct rule

minister . basically now a direct rule minister. the basically now a direct rule minister . the secretary of state minister. the secretary of state is making the decisions for northern ireland and because there is no stormont in place and you've got to remember that stormont is very much the easiest way to describe it . it easiest way to describe it. it is cross—community council is a cross—community council thatis is a cross—community council that is just like these councils here only it can legislate, it cannot pull any fiscal levers. it is given a block grant storm. it is given a block grant storm. it does not have a budget. it is given a block grant and the executive then hands out the money pretty much like the heads of committees in local councils . so these local councils being in place is extremely important because they are obviously doing the job that stormont is not to a direct rule minister, which is. chris heaton—harris now stormont hasn't been up and running in a year and chris heaton—harris had threatened to the dup that he was going to go back to the polls and they were very much under a lot of pressure here. unionist to go back in and out. these elections were seen as the point when the secretary of state would either

call an election back to stormont or not. on this on what we are seeing here. he would call that election and the stormont election would turn out to be exactly as you were. the problems with the framework and bringing unionists back in under consent would be a real problem. so he's now looking at does he scrap the consent part of the good friday agreement, which would mean that many unionists, all unionists wouldn't enter and he would be left with some sort of coalition between the alliance party, sinn fein and the sdlp ? or would he go ahead the sdlp? or would he go ahead because the sdlp, of course has lost about 12 seats and the ulster unionist party who said they would go back into government with the framework document in place , has lost 16 document in place, has lost 16 seats. so both these parties have suffered. so that pretty much has to put rishi sunak and chris heaton—harris back to the drawing board if they want to keep the good friday agreement in place. but on the good side

for at least, they now have for them at least, they now have councils that will administer it and basically run northern ireland in the interim period. dougie thank you very much. that's dougie beattie and worlnern— that's dougie beattie and northern ireland correspondent lpere— northern ireland correspondent lnere. wow— northern ireland correspondent there. now joining me also is le— there. now joining me also is le pen— there. now joining me also is our is ben lowry,_ there. now joining me also is our is ben lowry, editor at the neweleller— our is ben lowry, editor at the newsletter for— our is ben lowry, editor at the newsletter for ben. thank you. eool— newsletter for ben. thank you. good afternoon.— newsletter for ben. thank you. good afternoon. thank you for joining— good afternoon. thank you for joining ue— good afternoon. thank you for joining ue lnle— good afternoon. thank you for joining us this afternoon . ben, joining us this afternoon. ben, why— joining us this afternoon. ben, wny oe— joining us this afternoon. ben, wny lneee— joining us this afternoon. ben, why are these elections so lnporlonl— why are these elections so important for— why are these elections so important for northern ireland i important for northern ireland r llln-l— important for northern ireland r llln-l poor— important for northern ireland i didn't hear that.— important for northern ireland i didn't hear that. did- important for northern ireland i didn't hear that. did you- important for northern ireland i didn't hear that. did you say why are these elections so important? why are they so lnporlonle— important? why are they so important? yes. _ 7 why are they so important? yes. / 7 why are they so important? yes. l/rs;e“ cj

worlnern— still always in elections in northern ireland, even in oounoll— northern ireland, even in council elections, obviously personalities— council elections, obviously personalities very personalities are very lnpononl.— personalities are very important. constitution important. the constitution reeue— important. the constitution len-l— important. the constitution issue isn't far— important. the constitution issue isn't far .— important. the constitution issue isn't far . and in this issue isn't far. and in this eleollon— issue isn't far. and in this election, what— issue isn't far. and in this election, what we've seen, ollnougn— election, what we've seen, ollnougn we — election, what we've seen, although we hear an awful lot opoul— although we hear an awful lot opoul lne— although we hear an awful lot about the rise— although we hear an awful lot about the rise of— although we hear an awful lot about the rise of the centre grounl— about the rise of the centre grounl onl— about the rise of the centre ground and that's the alliance party— ground and that's the alliance nony-ereen- ground and that's the alliance party-green party- ground and that's the alliance party green party and so party and the green party and so on, there's still actually elre— on, there's still actually centre probably on, there's still actually- centre-probably only centre greens, probably only opoul— centre greens, probably only opoul-eew— centre greens, probably only about.80% plus- centre greens, probably only about 80% plus are voting about 14, 80% plus are voting for about 14, 80% plus are voting lor porllee— about 14, 80% plus are voting for parties that— about 14, 80% plus are voting for parties that are nationalist onl— for parties that are nationalist onl unlonlel— for parties that are nationalist and unionist and— for parties that are nationalist and unionist and it's very lnporlonl— and unionist and it's very important this— and unionist and it's very important this election because slnn— important this election because slnn reln— important this election because sinn fein have— important this election because sinn fein have done very well . i sinn fein have done very well. i r— sinn fein have done very well. i r ollel— sinn fein have done very well. i mean, i added a— sinn fein have done very well. i mean, i added a unionist newepoper— mean, i added a unionist newspaper and our readers and unlonlele— newspaper and our readers and unionists voters— newspaper and our readers and unionists voters across northern rrelonl— unionists voters across northern rrelonl wlll— unionists voters across northern ireland will not— unionists voters across northern ireland will not be— unionists voters across northern ireland will not be thrilled opoul— ireland will not be thrilled opoul lnol. — ireland will not be thrilled about that. they've had a really gool— about that. they've had a really gool eleollon— about that. they've had a really good election what's not yet oleor— good election what's not yet oleor le— good election what's not yet oleor le lne— good election what's not yet clear is the overall percentages of clear is the overall percentages ol lne— clear is the overall percentages ol lne llrel— clear is the overall percentages of the first preference vote. its proportional— of the first preference vote. its proportional representation onl— its proportional representation onl ll— its proportional representation onl ll loole— its proportional representation and it looks like— its proportional representation and it looks like that for the llrel— and it looks like that for the llrel lne— and it looks like that for the first time ever— and it looks like that for the first time ever actually , first time ever actually, nationalists— first time ever actually, nationalists might get slightly more votes than— nationalists might get slightly more votes than unionists . so more votes than unionists. so lnol-e— more votes than unionists. so lnol-e o— more votes than unionists. so lnol-e o prelly— more votes than unionists. so that's a pretty seismic moment if that's a pretty seismic moment ll ll-e— that's a pretty seismic moment ll ll-e lne— that's a pretty seismic moment if it's the case.— that's a pretty seismic moment if it's the case. and i would orgue— if it's the case. and i would orgue lnol-e— if it's the case. and i would argue that's much more significant— argue that's much more significant than which parties got significant than which parties gol wnlon— significant than which parties got which numbers of councillors. - got which numbers of councillors. but that's not oleor— councillors. but that's not oleor yel. — councillors. but that's not oleoryel. ln— councillors. but that's not clear yet. in the last stormont

eleollon— clear yet. in the last stormont eleollon on— clear yet. in the last stormont election on unionism, when you oonplne— election on unionism, when you oonplne oll— election on unionism, when you combine all the— election on unionism, when you combine all the unionist parties ,ng lwo— combine all the unionist parties , was two percentage points oleor— , was two percentage points oleor ol— , was two percentage points clear of irish— , was two percentage points clear of irish nationalism. traditionally— clear of irish nationalism. traditionally it— clear of irish nationalism. traditionally it used to be more lnon— traditionally it used to be more lnon lnol. — traditionally it used to be more lnon lnol. ln— traditionally it used to be more than that. in the— traditionally it used to be more than that. in the old days it was many, many— than that. in the old days it was many, many percentage points orleo— was many, many percentage points oleor-llnle— was many, many percentage points clear. .this election— was many, many percentage points clear. this election seems clear. in this election it seems to clear. in this election it seems lo pe— clear. in this election it seems lo pe neol— clear. in this election it seems to be neck and— clear. in this election it seems to be neck and neck and at the noenl— to be neck and neck and at the moment nationalism is fractionally_ moment nationalism is fractionally in other fractionally ahead in other oel— fractionally ahead in other words, there's— fractionally ahead in other words, there's more people wollng— words, there's more people wollng lor— words, there's more people voting for parties that want a unllel— voting for parties that want a united ireland— voting for parties that want a united ireland than are voting for united ireland than are voting lor porllee— united ireland than are voting for parties-want- united ireland than are voting for parties want unionist. for parties that want unionist. it for parties that want unionist. ll eeene— for parties that want unionist. ll lo— for parties that want unionist. it seems to want— for parties that want unionist. it seems to want to stay in the uk it seems to want to stay in the ul . — it seems to want to stay in the ul . renn— it seems to want to stay in the uk - john what— it seems to want to stay in the uk . john what the- it seems to want to stay in the uk . ““ �*fll“ee it seems to want to stay in the uk . e““ �*flle uk. john what the way the results are looking at the moment , what results are looking at the moment, what does results are looking at the moment , what does that results are looking at the moment, what does that mean for stormont actually getting back to sitting and sorting out the day to day problems that are facing people in northern ireland? the cost of living crisis, nhs, all these sort crisis, the nhs, all these sort of . well, the dup, which of things. well, the dup, which is of things. well, the dup, which le lne— of things. well, the dup, which le lne lorgeel— of things. well, the dup, which is the largest unionist- “rger well, the dup, which is the largest unionist party, ll-e— is the largest unionist party, ll-e ellll— is the largest unionist party, it's still the— is the largest unionist party, it's still the largest unionist party— it's still the largest unionist pony oller— it's still the largest unionist party after this— it's still the largest unionist party after this election, would say party after this election, would eoy lnol. — party after this election, would eoy lnol. anl— party after this election, would say that. and we— party after this election, would say that. and we as a newspaper woull— say that. and we as a newspaper woull eoy— say that. and we as a newspaper woull eoy, onl— say that. and we as a newspaper would say, and i'm— say that. and we as a newspaper would say, and i'm sure many people— would say, and i'm sure many people wolonlng— would say, and i'm sure many people watching on gb news would be people watching on gb news would pe eynpolnello— people watching on gb news would be sympathetic to— people watching on gb news would be sympathetic to this argument that be sympathetic to this argument lnol-ul— be sympathetic to this argument that uk government should that the uk government should lole— that the uk government should take-northern- that the uk government should take northern ireland take control of northern ireland in take control of northern ireland ln-ewenl— take control of northern ireland ln-ewenl ol— take control of northern ireland in-event of an— take control of northern ireland in event of an impasse and

in the event of an impasse and lnol— in the event of an impasse and lnol lne— in the event of an impasse and lnol lne ul— in the event of an impasse and that the uk government should enoull— that the uk government should enoull nove— that the uk government should should have taken control of polllloe— should have taken control of politics. that— should have taken control of politics. that didn't happen pere— politics. that didn't happen nere. so— politics. that didn't happen here. so what— politics. that didn't happen here. so what does it mean in lo your— here. so what does it mean in answer to your question? well lnle— answer to your question? well we loee— answer to your question? well this does increase— answer to your question? well this does increase pressure on lne— this does increase pressure on lne pun— this does increase pressure on lne pun lne— this does increase pressure on the dup, the dup— this does increase pressure on the dup, the dup is saying that as the dup, the dup is saying that oe o reeull— the dup, the dup is saying that oe o reeull ol— the dup, the dup is saying that as a result of brexit, which it eupponel— as a result of brexit, which it eupponel onl— as a result of brexit, which it supported and the irish sea porlen— supported and the irish sea border, that— supported and the irish sea border, that has— supported and the irish sea border, that has been the oulooe— border, that has been the outcome of— border, that has been the outcome of brexit. in other oel— outcome of brexit. in other oel lne— outcome of brexit. in other words, the trade- outcome of brexit. in other words, the trade barrier between worlnern — words, the trade barrier between worlnern—reell words, the trade barrier between northern _rest ofj northern ireland and the rest of the northern ireland and the rest of lne-lole— northern ireland and the rest of the-trade barrier- the uk. a trade barrier that woull— the uk. a trade barrier that. would—unthinkable the uk. a trade barrier that- would_unthinkable for would have been unthinkable for noel— would have been unthinkable for noel ol— would have been unthinkable for noel ol lne— would have been unthinkable for most of the first— would have been unthinkable for most of the first 100 years of worlnern— most of the first 100 years of northern ireland's existence , northern ireland's existence, wnere—lronl northern ireland's existence, wnere—lron ,i northern ireland's existence,- wnere—lron , you where sending goods from, you lnow,— where sending goods from, you lnow, lonlon— where sending goods from, you know, london to— where sending goods from, you know, london to coventry was the same as sending— know, london to coventry was the same as sending goods from lonlon— same as sending goods from lonlon lo— same as sending goods from london to coleraine in northern rrelonl.— london to coleraine in northern rrelonl. lney— london to coleraine in northern ireland. they would say that lnol-e— ireland. they would say that lnol-e euon— ireland. they would say that that's such an— ireland. they would say that that's such an important issue lnol— that's such an important issue lnol lney— that's such an important issue that they can't— that's such an important issue that they can't return in the evenl— that they can't return in the ewenl ol— that they can't return in the event of the _ that they can't return in the event of the irish sea border renolnlng— event of the irish sea border renolnlng ln— event of the irish sea border remaining in place, which it loee— remaining in place, which it loee oller— remaining in place, which it does after the— remaining in place, which it does after the windsor framework in does after the windsor framework rn reollly— does after the windsor framework in reality,-there's- does after the windsor framework in reality, there's no in reality, though, there's no gueellon— in reality, though, there's no question that— in reality, though, there's no question that the dup position is question that the dup position le weolenel.— question that the dup position is weakened. there's no question lnol— is weakened. there's no question lnol lne— is weakened. there's no question that the unionist— is weakened. there's no question that the unionist position is weolenel— that the unionist position is weakened. and— that the unionist position is weakened. and i would have lnougnl— weakened. and i would have lnougnl lnol— weakened. and i would have thought that that will mean that the thought that that will mean that lne purl— thought that that will mean that lne purl wlll— thought that that will mean that

the dup will return to stormont, wlll— the dup will return to stormont, wlll reurln— the dup will return to stormont, wlll reurln lo— the dup will return to stormont, will return to local— the dup will return to stormont, will return to local power enorlng— will return to local power sharing sometime in the autumn . sharing sometime in the autumn. but sharing sometime in the autumn. pul r— sharing sometime in the autumn. pul r lo— sharing sometime in the autumn. pul r lo lnlnl— sharing sometime in the autumn. but i do think it's— sharing sometime in the autumn. but i do think it's always lnporlonl— but i do think it's always important to— but i do think it's always important to say and gb news wnere— important to say and gb news wnere eo— important to say and gb news wnere eo nony— important to say and gb news where so many of— important to say and gb news where so many of the viewers eupporl— where so many of the viewers euppon prell— where so many of the viewers support brexit and so many viewers sympathetic to viewers are sympathetic to unlonlern— viewers are sympathetic to unionism and— viewers are sympathetic to unionism and there are not many oullele— unionism and there are not many oullele lnol— unionism and there are not many outlets that are— unionism and there are not many outlets that are sympathetic to the outlets that are sympathetic to lne unlonlern— outlets that are sympathetic to the unionism in— outlets that are sympathetic to the unionism in the media world. cerlolnly— the unionism in the media world. certainly unionists— the unionism in the media world. certainly unionists would feel. i certainly unionists would feel. rllnlnl— certainly unionists would feel. rllnlnl ll-e— certainly unionists would feel. i.think it's worth- certainly unionists would feel. i think it's worth saying i do think it's worth saying lnol— i do think it's worth saying lnol lnle— i do think it's worth saying that this is— i do think it's worth saying that this is not— i do think it's worth saying that this is not a great situation— that this is not a great situation in— that this is not a great situation in that the uk has peen— situation in that the uk has been divided— situation in that the uk has been divided in— situation in that the uk has been divided in this way as a reeull— been divided in this way as a reeull ol— been divided in this way as a result of the— been divided in this way as a result of the brexit settlement , pul— result of the brexit settlement , pul ll-e— result of the brexit settlement , pul ll-e r— result of the brexit settlement , but it's i think— result of the brexit settlement , but it's i think it's caused lnol— , but it's i think it's caused issues that i— , but it's i think it's caused issues that i think weren't propoply— issues that i think weren't probably explained and very few of probably explained and very few ol ue— probably explained and very few of us understood— probably explained and very few of us understood at the time rlgnl— of us understood at the time ngnl . — of us understood at the time ngnl . lnol-e— of us understood at the time right . that's very.- of us understood at the time right. rrs;”«r of us understood at the time right. that's very. ben, thank you very much for joining us. that's ben lowry there, the editor of the newsletter in belfast. thank you forjoining belfast. thank you for joining us. right. let's go to some more of your views that have been coming and particular on coming in and particular on artificial intelligence, which scares me. i'm sorry, i'm honest, but my mobile phone scares me, be honest. so scares me, to be honest. so should we fear artificial intelligence? now, here's what

some of you have been saying, nicholas. you say humans are better company in the pub and they have something. computers don't that's a gut don't have. and that's a gut feeling . yeah, actually, fair feeling. yeah, actually, fair point. with you on that point. i agree with you on that one. you know, talk point. i agree with you on that on somebody you know, talk point. i agree with you on that on somebody inyou know, talk point. i agree with you on that on somebody in the know, talk point. i agree with you on that on somebody in the pub v, talk point. i agree with you on that on somebody in the pub rather to somebody in the pub rather than talking to phone. than talking to my phone. meanwhile, afternoon. meanwhile, john, good afternoon. john new john says it's a brave new world. if used correctly. i believe intelligence believe artificial intelligence will make life easier for millions , not me. meanwhile jim millions, not me. meanwhile jim says we shouldn't fear ai, but the way in which humans use ai for the better or the worse . for the better or the worse. yes, actually, that's a really good point, isn't it? it's all down to us and what we do with it. meanwhile, leo good afternoon. leo. you say ai is not a threat to education and that was a calculated back in the 70s. i just means that we pursue intellectual answers and solutions more quickly . golly solutions more quickly. golly gosh. right. okay. well i thank you very much for those views . you very much for those views. now keep them coming in, though. vaiews@gbnews.uk. do you keep in touch? it's all about you and what you think you can subscribe

to our youtube channel and follow us on twitter at gb news. that's right. you're watching and listening indeed to gb news. saturday with me, dawn neesom. but lots more to come in today's show, inaya flooding should a biological male model swimsuits for biology females. you can see in that picture there and you can very clearly see that's a biological male . adidas thinks biological male. adidas thinks they can. but what do you think? more on that shortly. but first, let's take a look at what that weather's doing. hello there. weloone— weather's doing. hello there. weloone lo— weather's doing. hello there. welcome to your— weather's doing. hello there. welcome to your gb- r3sr “rg hello there. welcome to your gb news weather loreooel— welcome to your gb news weather loreooel lron — welcome to your gb news weather forecast from the _ welcome to your gb news weather forecast from the met office. r-n — forecast from the met office. r-n crolg— forecast from the met office. i'm craig snell.— forecast from the met office. i'm craig snell. we're having a lool— i'm craig snell. we're having a lool ol— i'm craig snell. we're having a look at sunday— i'm craig snell. we're having a look at sunday a— i'm craig snell. we're having a look at sunday a bit of a north eouln— look at sunday a bit of a north eouln-nel— look at sunday a bit of a north south-risk of— look at sunday a bit of a north south-risk of some- look at sunday a bit of a north south risk of some rain south split risk of some rain across northern— south split risk of some rain across northern ireland and soollonl— across northern ireland and scotland elsewhere should across northern ireland and sc(dryid elsewhere should across northern ireland and sc(dry and elsewhere should across northern ireland and sc(dry and fine lsewhere should across northern ireland and sc(dry and fine inewhere should across northern ireland and sc(dry and fine in theere should across northern ireland and sc(dry and fine in the areaiould across northern ireland and sc(dry and fine in the area of ld be dry and fine in the area of on— be dry and fine in the area of le— be dry and fine in the area of le oll— be dry and fine in the area of rain is all courtesy of this weolner— rain is all courtesy of this weather front, _ rain is all courtesy of this weather front, which will groluolly— weather front, which will gradually-its- weather front, which will gradually its way towards gradually work its way towards worlnern— gradually work its way towards northern scotland northern ireland and scotland lunng—orl northern ireland and scotlandi lunng—or during the next 24 hours or so. pul— during the next 24 hours or so. pul runner— during the next 24 hours or so. but further south,— during the next 24 hours or so. but further south, high pressure ln— but further south, high pressure remains in charge— but further south, high pressure remains in charge here. it's going— remains in charge here. it's golng lo— remains in charge here. it's golng lo pe— remains in charge here. it's golng lo pe o— remains in charge here. it's going to be a fine second half to going to be a fine second half lo-weelenl.— going to be a fine second half to-weekend. so- going to be a fine second half to weekend. so going into to the weekend. so going into the to the weekend. so going into lne reel— to the weekend. so going into lne reel ol— to the weekend. so going into the rest of saturday, you can lorgely— the rest of saturday, you can see largely clear— the rest of saturday, you can see largely clear across a see largely clear skies across a

gool— see largely clear skies across a gool-ol— see largely clear skies across a good-of england- see largely clear skies across a good of england and wales. good chunk of england and wales. but good chunk of england and wales. pul runner— good chunk of england and wales. but further north,— good chunk of england and wales. but further north, we see this area _turn quite i area of rain could turn quite neowy— heavy in places, especially lne— heavy in places, especially across the scottish mountains. pul— across the scottish mountains. pul no— across the scottish mountains. but no problems— across the scottish mountains. but no problems really here with lenperoluree. — but no problems really here with temperatures. but— but no problems really here with temperatures. but further south, unler— temperatures. but further south, unler-ellee- temperatures. but further south, under-skies,.couldl under the clear skies, it could lurn—lor- under the clear skies, it could lurn—lor lne- under the clear skies, it could turn—for the timei turn quite chilly for the time of turn quite chilly for the time ol yeor— turn quite chilly for the time of year, especially some of year, especially across some prone— of year, especially across some prone-ol— of year, especially across some prone-or lne— of year, especially across some prone of the midlands prone spots of the midlands and wolee. — prone spots of the midlands and wolee. .lnol— prone spots of the midlands and wales. .that will— prone spots of the midlands and wales. that will set us up wales. but that will set us up for wales. but that will set us up lor onolner— wales. but that will set us up for another fine— wales. but that will set us up for another fine day across many pone— for another fine day across many porle ol— for another fine day across many porle ol-onl— for another fine day across many parts of-and wales- for another fine day across many parts of and wales. for another fine day across many parts of and wales . a parts of england and wales. a llllle— parts of england and wales. a llllle pll— parts of england and wales. a llllle pll ol— parts of england and wales. a little bit of cloud— parts of england and wales. a little bit of cloud from time to lne— little bit of cloud from time toi llne—eoelern time suppressed across eastern oooele— time suppressed across eastern oooele-generolly- time suppressed across eastern coasts, generally the cloudy coasts, but generally the cloudy ellee— coasts, but generally the cloudy ellee wlll— coasts, but generally the cloudy skies will-reserved- coasts, but generally the cloudy skies will reserved for skies will be reserved for worlnern— skies will be reserved for northern ireland and scotland. lne— northern ireland and scotland. lne-wru— northern ireland and scotland. the .will weaken - northern ireland and scotland. the will weaken the day the rain will weaken as the day goee— the rain will weaken as the day goee on— the rain will weaken as the day goee so— the rain will weaken as the day goes on. so hopefully by the end of goes on. so hopefully by the end ol-ollernoon— goes on. so hopefully by the end of. afternoon we _ goes on. so hopefully by the end of afternoon we could start of the afternoon we could start to of the afternoon we could start lo-eone— of the afternoon we could start to-some sunshine- of the afternoon we could start to some sunshine developing to see some sunshine developing for—soollonll for northern parts of scotland onl— for northern parts of scotland onl noype— for northern parts of scotland and maybe also— for northern parts of scotland and maybe also ireland. and maybe also northern ireland. but and maybe also northern ireland. pul lne— and maybe also northern ireland. pul lne peel— and maybe also northern ireland. but the best of— and maybe also northern ireland. but the best of the— and maybe also northern ireland. but the best of the sunshine wlll— but the best of the sunshine will-further— but the best of the sunshine will further south where we will be further south where we wlll— will be further south where we wlll — will be further south where we will see highs— will be further south where we will see highs reaching 21 or 22 legreee— will see highs reaching 21 or 22 legreee lnlo— will see highs reaching 21 or 22 degrees into the— will see highs reaching 21 or 22 degrees into the evening. the on— degrees into the evening. the wlll— degrees into the evening. the rain will continue to weaken, ellll— rain will continue to weaken, ellll wlll— rain will continue to weaken, still will leave— rain will continue to weaken, still will leave behind some oloul— still will leave behind some cloud across— still will leave behind some cloud across northern ireland onl— cloud across northern ireland and scotland. _ cloud across northern ireland and scotland. further south. lnle— and scotland. further south. lnle le— and scotland. further south. this is where— and scotland. further south. this is where we— and scotland. further south. this is where we see the oleoreel— this is where we see the clearest of— this is where we see the clearest of the- this is where we see the clearest of the sky. so once ogoln— clearest of the sky. so once ogoln we— clearest of the sky. so once again, we could— clearest of the sky. so once again, we could turn quite onllly— again, we could turn quite chilly, especially across parts of chilly, especially across parts ol wolee— chilly, especially across parts of wales and _ chilly, especially across parts of wales and into the midlands.

but of wales and into the midlands. pul oweroll— of wales and into the midlands. but overall, as— of wales and into the midlands. but overall, as we— of wales and into the midlands. but overall, as we start monday mom...— but overall, as we start monday wang, we— but overall, as we start monday morning, we start— but overall, as we start monday morning, we start on a fairly gulel— morning, we start on a fairly gulel nole— morning, we start on a fairly quiet note across— morning, we start on a fairly quiet note across the country . quiet note across the country. we— quiet note across the country. we ellll— quiet note across the country. we ellll nong— quiet note across the country. we still hang on— quiet note across the country. we still hang on to some cloud across eastern— we still hang on to some cloud across eastern scotland, but it wlll— across eastern scotland, but it wlll lnprowe— across eastern scotland, but it will improve here— across eastern scotland, but it will improve here as the day goee— will improve here as the day goee on— will improve here as the day goee on onl— will improve here as the day goes on and generally the best of goes on and generally the best ol-eunenlne— goes on and generally the best of-sunshine will- goes on and generally the best of sunshine will be further of the sunshine will be further eouln — of the sunshine will be further eouln—ore- of the sunshine will be further eouln—ore .- of the sunshine will be further south—are . and| of the sunshine will be further. south—are . and as south and west. you are. and as we go— south and west. you are. and as we go lnlo— south and west. you are. and as we go into tuesday— south and west. you are. and as we go into tuesday and wednesday , a we go into tuesday and wednesday , o very— we go into tuesday and wednesday , o very-onongee— we go into tuesday and wednesday , a very changes across , a very little changes across lne— , a very little changes across lne oounlry— , a very little changes across the country, largely dry and eunny— the country, largely dry and eunny lor— the country, largely dry and eunny lor o— the country, largely dry and sunny for a lot— the country, largely dry and sunny for a lot of the uk and in the sunny for a lot of the uk and in lne eunenlne— sunny for a lot of the uk and in the sunshine it— sunny for a lot of the uk and in the sunshine it will— sunny for a lot of the uk and in the sunshine it will feel pleoeonlly— the sunshine it will feel pleasantly warm for the time of yeor—

news radio. hello. news radio. - l hello. welcome news radio. _ i hello. welcome back. wewe loop. — - hello. welcome back. you're wolonlng— - hello. welcome back. you're wolonlng ep— - hello. welcome back. you're watching gb news.— . hello. welcome back. you're watching gb news. i'm- hello. welcome back. you're watching gb news. i'm bethany lleey— watching gb news. i'm bethany lleey wlln— watching gb news. i'm bethany lleey wlln your— watching gb news. i'm bethany elsey with your stories. at elsey with your top stories. at poll— elsey with your top stories. at noll poel,— elsey with your top stories. at noll poel, lwo— elsey with your top stories. at half past, two world leaders nove— half past, two world leaders have welcomed— half past, two world leaders have welcomed ukraine's preellenl— have welcomed ukraine's president to— have welcomed ukraine's president to the g7 summit in ropon— president to the g7 summit in ropon .— president to the g7 summit in ropon . rl-e— president to the g7 summit in ropon . rlle gool— president to the g7 summit in japan . it's good to see you. japan. it's good to see you. now— japan. it's good to see you. now ore— japan. it's good to see you. now youe— japan. it's good to see you. how are you? yeah,- japan. it's good to see you. how are you? yeah, i'm- japan. it's good to see you. how are you? yeah, i'm all right, thanks. vladimir zelenelyy— right, thanks. vladimir zelenskyy met- ”rg“ vladimir zelenskyy met with prime allnleler— zelenskyy met with prime minister rishi _ zelenskyy met with prime minister rishi sunak, who rellerolel— minister rishi sunak, who reiterated the— minister rishi sunak, who reiterated the uk's ongoing

eupporl— reiterated the uk's ongoing euppon lor— reiterated the uk's ongoing support for the— reiterated the uk's ongoing support for the country in its llgnl— support for the country in its llgnl ogolnel— support for the country in its fight against russia. he also nel— fight against russia. he also nel wlln— fight against russia. he also met with french— fight against russia. he also met with french president lnnonuel— met with french president emmanuel macron, who described his emmanuel macron, who described pre peeee— emmanuel macron, who described pre peeee ln— emmanuel macron, who described his presence in japan as a game onongel— his presence in japan as a game ononger. rl— his presence in japan as a game ononger. rl eoye— his presence in japan as a game changer. it says the white house opprowel— changer. it says the white house opprowel plone— changer. it says the white house approved plans to _ changer. it says the white house approved plans to provide f—16 llgnler— approved plans to provide f—16 llgnler tele— approved plans to provide f—16 llgnler iele lo— approved plans to provide f—16 fighter jets to ukraine approved plans to provide f—16 fighterjets to ukraine and to fighter jets to ukraine and to lroln— fighter jets to ukraine and to lroln lle— fighter jets to ukraine and to train its pilots— fighter jets to ukraine and to train its pilots .— fighter jets to ukraine and to train its pilots . president train its pilots. president zelenelyy— train its pilots. president zelenskyy said the move is a onio— zelenskyy said the move is a ornio pooel— zelenskyy said the move is a major boost to— zelenskyy said the move is a major boost to kyivs air power , major boost to kyivs air power, pul— major boost to kyivs air power, pul lueelo — major boost to kyivs air power, but russia says— major boost to kyivs air power, but russia says it— major boost to kyivs air power, but russia says it carries ooloeeol— but russia says it carries colossal risks— but russia says it carries colossal risks for the west . at colossal risks for the west. at lne— colossal risks for the west. at lne neol— colossal risks for the west. at lne neol ol— colossal risks for the west. at the head of russia's wagner mercenary group is claiming full oonlrol— mercenary group is claiming full oonlrol ol— mercenary group is claiming full control of the— mercenary group is claiming full control of the eastern ukrainian city control of the eastern ukrainian olly ol— control of the eastern ukrainian city of bakhmut. _ control of the eastern ukrainian city of bakhmut. the focus of lne— city of bakhmut. the focus of lne longeel— city of bakhmut. the focus of the longest and— city of bakhmut. the focus of the longest and bloodiest battle of the longest and bloodiest battle ol lne— the longest and bloodiest battle ol lne wo— the longest and bloodiest battle of the war. reuters news agency noen-l— of the war. reuters news agency noen-l peen— of the war. reuters news agency hasn't been able— of the war. reuters news agency hasn't been able to independently confirm the hasn't been able to— independently confirm the claim, and independently confirm the claim, onl ulrolne-e— independently confirm the claim, and ukraine's military deny that the and ukraine's military deny that lne olly— and ukraine's military deny that lne olly noe— and ukraine's military deny that the city has fallen. the leader of the city has fallen. the leader ol lne— the city has fallen. the leader or lne group,— the city has fallen. the leader of the group, which the uk plans to of the group, which the uk plans lo leolore— of the group, which the uk plans lo leolore oe— of the group, which the uk plans to declare as a— of the group, which the uk plans to declare as a terrorist organisation— to declare as a terrorist organisation ,- to declare as a terrorist organisation , britain, said its organisation, britain, said its loee— organisation, britain, said its loee wlll— organisation, britain, said its forces will withdraw from polnnul— forces will withdraw from bakhmut next— forces will withdraw from bakhmut next week for rest and relrolnlng— bakhmut next week for rest and relrolnlng .— bakhmut next week for rest and retraining . labour— bakhmut next week for rest and retraining . labour claims retraining. labour claims lnere-e— retraining. labour claims there's been— retraining. labour claims there's been a- retraining. labour claims there's been a big jump in the nurnper— there's been a big jump in the nurnper ol— there's been a big jump in the number of people— there's been a big jump in the

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to thank you, bethany. welcome back lo en— thank you, bethany. welcome back to gb news saturday with me dawn neesom on tv, online and on digital radio. now adidas has been accused of erasing women after an advert which featured a biological male in a biologic female swimming costume appeared as part of the company's pride. 2023 collection. the move has prompted criticism from women's equality campaigners for taking away women's jobs, but also for the unrealistic body expectations as it comes after a nike received flak for a sports bar advert using trans influencer dylan mulvaney and joining me in the studio show is media personality oli london, and he believes adidas should not have done this advert. meanwhile campaigner and facilitator of dialogue katie john went joins us and thinks this isn't so bad as an advert idea . okay ollie i'm going to idea. okay ollie i'm going to come to you. thank you both so much for joining come to you. thank you both so much forjoining me on a saturday afternoon. really appreciate it. ollie, i'm going

to first. i mean, to come to you first. i mean, what your initial thoughts what are your initial thoughts about advert? what about this advert? what did you think it? well, think when you saw it? well, firstly , i was shocked, firstly, i was shocked, but i was not surprised because we've seen a long list of seen now a long list of companies. we've seen now a long list of companies . we've seen nike with companies. we've seen nike with the companies. we've seen nike with lne pylon— companies. we've seen nike with the dylan mulvaney— t“ we've seen nike with the dylan mulvaney sports bras. weloe— the dylan mulvaney sports bras. we've seen dylan— the dylan mulvaney sports bras. we've seen dylan mulvaney olwerllelng— we've seen dylan mulvaney advertising light . so we've advertising bud light. so we've eeen-reol— advertising bud light. so we've seen-real push— advertising bud light. so we've seen real push recently of seen this real push recently of pronle— seen this real push recently of brands pushing— seen this real push recently of brands pushing all of this kind of brands pushing all of this kind ol woleneee— brands pushing all of this kind of wokeness on _ brands pushing all of this kind of wokeness on the consumer. and it of wokeness on the consumer. and ll loeen-l— of wokeness on the consumer. and it doesn't represent— of wokeness on the consumer. and it doesn't represent the nor-only— it doesn't represent the nor-only ol— it doesn't represent the majority of consumers because, you— majority of consumers because, you-noel— majority of consumers because, you-noel women- majority of consumers because, you most women will you know, most women will ooluolly— you know, most women will ooluollylpul— you know, most women will actually-put off- you know, most women will actually put off this actually be put off by this open— actually be put off by this advertithey'll- actually be put off by this advert they'll find it advert. they'll find it offensive. _ advert. they'll find it offensive. but reason offensive. but the reason this is offensive. but the reason this reeo—— offensive. but the reason this reeo— nony- offensive. but the reason this is_so many timesi offensive. but the reason this- is_so many times with is happening so many times with lneee— is happening so many times with these multi—billion dollar these big multi—billion dollar ornrponee— these big multi—billion dollar companies because companies is because of eonelnlng— companies is because of- something—corporate something called the corporate lguollly— something called the corporate lguollly lnlee— something called the corporate equality index, which is a scorecard that— equality index, which is a scorecard that basically goes orounl— scorecard that basically goes orounl lo— scorecard that basically goes around to these— scorecard that basically goes around to these businesses. they get around to these businesses. they gellperleol— around to these businesses. they get l perfect 100% _ around to these businesses. they get perfect 100% scorecard if get a perfect 100% scorecard if lney— get a perfect 100% scorecard if lney-o— get a perfect 100% scorecard if lney-o lrone— get a perfect 100% scorecard if they a trans models at the they push a trans models at the lorelronl— they push a trans models at the lorelronl ol— they push a trans models at the forefront of their— they push a trans models at the forefront of their campaigns and opoul— forefront of their campaigns and opoul now— forefront of their campaigns and about how inclusive they are. anl— about how inclusive they are. anl ll-e— about how inclusive they are. and it's kind _ about how inclusive they are. and it's kind of— about how inclusive they are. and it's kind of ironic because pul— and it's kind of ironic because pul llgnl— and it's kind of ironic because pul llgnl oll— and it's kind of ironic because bud light did that. and it's kind of ironic because bud light did that . they've had bud light did that. they've had euon— bud light did that. they've had such l backlash. _ bud light did that. they've had such backlash. lost $6 such a backlash. they lost $6 pllllon— such a backlash. they lost $6 billion worth _ such a backlash. they lost $6 billion worth their stocks billion worth of their stocks onl— billion worth of their stocks onl lney-we— billion worth of their stocks and they've actually been euepenlel— and they've actually been suspended from their cei index scorecards because they failed

to scorecards because they failed lo lelenl — scorecards because they failed to defend dylan— scorecards because they failed to defend dylan mulvaney. so you lnow,— to defend dylan mulvaney. so you know, we're seeing— to defend dylan mulvaney. so you know, we're seeing that consumers aren't going to stand for consumers aren't going to stand lor lnle. — consumers aren't going to stand lor lnle. r— consumers aren't going to stand for this. i think— consumers aren't going to stand for this. i think a— consumers aren't going to stand for this. i think a lot of women upeel— for this. i think a lot of women upeel onl— for this. i think a lot of women are upset and it's— for this. i think a lot of women are upset and it's just mocking al— are upset and it's just mocking women. at-end_ are upset and it's just mocking women. at-end of- are upset and it's just mocking women. at end of the day. women. at the end of the day. lole— women. at the end of the day. lolle .— women. at the end of the day. lolle . oe— women. at the end of the day. lolle . oe o— women. at the end of the day. katie , as a woman,— women. at the end of the day. katie , as a woman,-not- katie, as a woman, i'm not entirely sure this advert is entirely sure who this advert is aimed at. clearly a woman's aimed at. it's clearly a woman's costume. designed it's costume. it's designed it's being as woman's swimming being sold as a woman's swimming costume. are they trying to costume. so are they trying to sell women? they sell it to women? are they trying sell men? i'm trying to sell it to men? i'm not sure. what do you not entirely sure. what do you make about this advert? well, as ollie said, i think— make about this advert? well, as ollie said, i think it's— make about this advert? well, as ollie said, i think it's in- elr3 rs”7 well, as ollie said, i think it's in part it ollie said, i think it's in part ll le— ollie said, i think it's in part ll le porl— ollie said, i think it's in part ll le porl ol— ollie said, i think it's in part it is part of the— ollie said, i think it's in part it is part of the current ollnole— it is part of the current climate and- it is part of the current climate and what people are lrylng— climate and what people are lrylng lo— climate and what people are lrylng lo-nowng- climate and what people are trying to “rg r3 climate and what people are. trying to-having said that, trying to do. having said that, it's that far off the kind it's not that far off the kind of swimming costume a man would have in the 1920s. you have worn in the 1920s. you know, it's the have worn in the 19205. you know, it's the style- have worn in the 19205. you know, it's the style of- have worn in the 19205. you know, it's the style of it- “ “q you know, it's the style of it is lnlng— know, it's the style of it is one thing and— know, it's the style of it is one thing and completely irrelevant— one thing and completely irrelevant in— one thing and completely irrelevant in that respect. but we love— irrelevant in that respect. but we love lo— irrelevant in that respect. but we have to notice— irrelevant in that respect. but we have to notice it- irrelevant in that respect. but we have to notice it is- irrelevant in that respect. but we have to notice it is not being aimed entirely at women. it is part of their pride collection. _ it is part of their pride collection. they're doing it iuel— collection. they're doing it iuel-opoul— collection. they're doing it just-aboutlturn- collection. they're doing it just about turn the just just about to turn the corner-pride- just just about to turn the corner pride month. just just about to turn the corner- pride month. and corner into pride month. and lney-re—porl- corner into pride month. and lney-re—porl ol- they're doing it as part of that. so meant to be that. so it is meant to be inclusive. and if you swipe on the inclusive. and if you swipe on lne ooluol— inclusive. and if you swipe on the actual-and _ inclusive. and if you swipe on the actual-and go- inclusive. and if you swipe on the actual-and go to- “rtggler and if you swipe on the actual and go to the the actual ad and go to the olner— the actual ad and go to the other-available,- the actual ad and go to the other available, you see other styles available, you see lney-we— other styles available, you see lney-we-ueel— other styles available, you see they've - used a - other styles available, you see they've used a woman as they've also used a woman as well—

they've also used a woman as well lo— they've also used a woman as well to model— they've also used a woman as well to model the— they've also used a woman as well to model the same costume in well to model the same costume ln o— well to model the same costume ln o plue— well to model the same costume ln o plue — well to model the same costume in a plus size. i— well to model the same costume in a plus size. i mean, you could argue that you could do a whole kind of dove with whole kind of dove thing with about different about 15 different models and size shapes ages and size and shapes and ages and ethnicities of women to be really diverse. but it is aimed at market. it is a pride at a pride market. it is a pride kind at a pride market. it is a pride llnl ol— at a pride market. it is a pride kind of costume— at a pride market. it is a pride kind of costume .— at a pride market. it is a pride kind of costume . um,- r3s it is a pride kind of costume . um, yeah. kind of costume. um, yeah. that loll.— kind of costume. um, yeah. that eoll. ll— kind of costume. um, yeah. that eoll. ll le— kind of costume. um, yeah. that eoll. ll le on— kind of costume. um, yeah. that said, it is an unrealistic body shape, certainly for women at six foot two and size six and something like that. it's the actual model's shape- “g g it's the actual model's shape is not neoeeeorlly— actual model's shape is not necessarily achievable in the lenole— necessarily achievable in the female range.— necessarily achievable in the female range. it's a non—binary nolel— female range. it's a non—binary nolel oe— female range. it's a non—binary nolel oe lor— female range. it's a non—binary model as far as— female range. it's a non—binary model as far as i'm— female range. it's a non—binary model as far as i'm aware . but model as far as i'm aware. but if model as far as i'm aware. but ll lney— model as far as i'm aware. but ll lney wonl— model as far as i'm aware. but ll lney wonl ll— model as far as i'm aware. but if they want it to— model as far as i'm aware. but if they want it to be really rollool — if they want it to be really radical, what— if they want it to be really radical, what they could have lone— radical, what they could have lone le— radical, what they could have lone le lney— radical, what they could have done is they could have put that we— done is they could have put that lue onl— done is they could have put that costume and that— done is they could have put that costume and that model in the eeollon— costume and that model in the men's section or— costume and that model in the men's section or develop a unisex section— men's section or develop a unisex section say, actually unisex section and say, actually let unisex section and say, actually lel ololnee— unisex section and say, actually let clothes be— unisex section and say, actually let clothes be clothes. we're going— let clothes be clothes. we're golng—non - let clothes be clothes. we're going—from nowi let clothes be clothes. we're. going—from now on going to actually from now on say— going to actually from now on eoy lnol— going to actually from now on say that clothes— going to actually from now on say that clothes don't have neoeeeonly— say that clothes don't have necessarily-and - say that clothes don't have necessarily and gender as necessarily a sex and gender as nony— necessarily a sex and gender as nony ol— necessarily a sex and gender as nony ol lnen— necessarily a sex and gender as many of them don't anyway. and ooluolly—ln- many of them don't anyway. and actually—in-kindl actually be pioneers in the kind of actually be pioneers in the kind ol-unleel— actually be pioneers in the kind of-unisex market- actually be pioneers in the kind of unisex market for of the unisex market for ololnlng. — of the unisex market for clothing. ollie i think that's an interesting— clothing. ollie i think that's an interesting point. ert an interesting point. the fact lnol— an interesting point. the fact lnol lnle— an interesting point. the fact lnol we re— an interesting point. the fact that this is in the women's section and it is quite clearly a biological male , i think

a biological male, i think that's the issue most of us have with it. i mean, what what about what katie says, having a unisex section and a male section and then a female section that would keep everybody happy? maybe. sure i mean, i think the way loenlon— sure i mean, i think the way loenlon le— sure i mean, i think the way fashion is going,— sure i mean, i think the way fashion is going, it- ”rs; i mean, i think the way fashion is going, it is very genler— fashion is going, it is very gender neutral. - fashion is going, it is very gender neutral. and i think lnere-e— gender neutral. and i think there's certainly a demand from consumers for that. you consumers for that. so, you lnow,— consumers for that. so, you know,_productsj know, if there was products epeollloolly— know, if there was products specifically trans specifically made for trans people,— specifically made for trans people, non—binary people, and lney—eeollon- they had their own section, lnol-e— they had their own section, that's,_think. that's, you know, i think eonelnlng— that's, you know, i think something would make something that would make eeonrye— something that would make everyone happy. it's everyone happy. but when it's pelng— everyone happy. but when it's pelng puenel— everyone happy. but when it's being pushed as— everyone happy. but when it's being pushed as womenswear being pushed as a womenswear oonpolgn— being pushed as a womensweari oonpolgn—leeue. campaign, that's the real issue. anl— campaign, that's the real issue. anllyou— campaign, that's the real issue. anllyou nolloe— campaign, that's the real issue. andlyou notice as— campaign, that's the real issue. and you notice as well, all and if you notice as well, all of and if you notice as well, all ol-nole— and if you notice as well, all of-male models- and if you notice as well, all of male models modelling of the male models modelling the women's swimwear— of the male models modelling the women's swimwear are very, very ellnny— skinny, almost underweight. wnereoe— skinny, almost underweight. wnereoelyou— skinny, almost underweight. whereas you compare it to all whereas if you compare it to all of whereas if you compare it to all ol-lenole— whereas if you compare it to all of-female models,- whereas if you compare it to all of female models, are of the female models, they are plue—onl- of the female models, they are plue—onl you- of the female models, they arei plus—and you know, plus size models and you know, i lnl— plus size models and you know, i llnl lnol— plus size models and you know, i llnl lnol on— plus size models and you know, i find that an interesting oonlroel— find that an interesting contrast that- find that an interesting contrast that adidas that contrast that adidas did that epeollloolly— contrast that adidas did that epeollloolly .— contrast that adidas did that specifically . we— contrast that adidas did that specifically . we also had the specifically. we also had the olner— specifically. we also had the olner loy— specifically. we also had the other day, sports illustrated ad leolurel— other day, sports illustrated ad featured-petras_ other day, sports illustrated ad featured - petras , - other day, sports illustrated ad featured - petras , a - featured kim petras, a transgender- featured kim petras, a transgender model on the cover of transgender model on the cover ol epone— transgender model on the cover of sports illustrated. and, you lnow,— of sports illustrated. and, you know, _fantastic - of sports illustrated. and, you know, fantastic singer . know, she's a fantastic singer. i know, she's a fantastic singer. r—greol. — know, she's a fantastic singer. r—greol. pul- know, she's a fantastic singer. i_great. but the. i think she's great. but the i lnlnl— i think she's great. but the i lnlnl lne— i think she's great. but the i think the issue _ i think she's great. but the i think the issue with that is the consumers buying these products. for consumers buying these products. ror lnelonoe— consumers buying these products. for instanceisports_ for instance, sports

illustrated's magazine, illustrated's menswear magazine, poeel— illustrated's menswear magazine, poeel ln— illustrated's menswear magazine, poeel ln alen— illustrated's menswear magazine, based in men buy— illustrated's menswear magazine, based in men buy it to look at ploluree— based in men buy it to look at pictures-women,— based in men buy it to look at pictures women, the swimwear pictures of women, the swimwear ellllone— pictures of women, the swimwear ellllone onl— pictures of women, the swimwear editions and _and - pictures of women, the swimwear editions and and think editions and stuff. and i think it's editions and stuff. and i think ll-e-lrylng— it's almost trying to subconscious the habits subconscious change the habits of subconscious change the habits ol elrolgnl— subconscious change the habits of straight heterosexual men and of straight heterosexual lnen and try of straight heterosexual men and lry lo— of straight heterosexual men and lry lo oonwnoe— of straight heterosexual men and try to convince them that , you try to convince them that, you lnow,— try to convince them that, you know, women are— try to convince them that, you know, women are no longer leelrople— know, women are no longer desirable. the— know, women are no longer desirable. the new desirable lnlng— desirable. the new desirable lnlng le— desirable. the new desirable lnlng le you— desirable. the new desirable thing is, you know, skinny kind of thing is, you know, skinny kind ol lrone— thing is, you know, skinny kind of trans transgender models. so i of trans transgender models. so r lnlnl— of trans transgender models. so r lnlnl ll-e— of trans transgender models. so rlnlnl ll-e o— of trans transgender models. so i think it's a subtle play at lrylng— i think it's a subtle play at lrylng lo— i think it's a subtle play at trying to alter— i think it's a subtle play at trying to alter the minds of consumers. but— trying to alter the minds of consumers. but i agree with lole— consumers. but i agree with lolle par,— consumers. but i agree with katie that, you— consumers. but i agree with katie that, you know, maybe just nole— katie that, you know, maybe just nole o— katie that, you know, maybe just nole o unlee— katie that, you know, maybe just make a unisex category because genler— make a unisex category because genler le— make a unisex category because genler le eony— make a unisex category because gender is sorry, fashion is very genler— gender is sorry, fashion is very gender neutral. _ gender is sorry, fashion is very gender neutral. these days. people— gender neutral. these days. people-lo— gender neutral. these days. people-lo lry- gender neutral. these days. people to try new things. people like to try new things. i lnlnl— people like to try new things. i lnlnl ,— people like to try new things. i lnlnl , you— people like to try new things. i think , you know,— people like to try new things. i- think , you know,_would think, you know, everybody would be think, you know, everybody would pe—apeolulely- think, you know, everybody would pe—apeolulely - think, you know, everybody would be _absolutely we. be happy then. absolutely we nowoonnl-ng— be happy then. absolutely we now,-coming back- be happy then. absolutely wel now,-coming back-you now, katie, coming back to you and davis, who as we know and sharon davis, who as we know is and is a feminist campaigner and certainly a women in sport and women's rights in sport. sharon davis has called this advert as an assault on being female and called on adidas to stop gaslighting women. what would you say to her about her comments ? well, i can understand comments? well, i can understand them given the kind of the nature of the dialogue or rather

the lack of dialogue that we've had the last 5 or 6 years over gender and over sex. but as with ollie , i gender and over sex. but as with one , r lonl— gender and over sex. but as with ollie , i don't actually— ollie, i don't actually i lleogree— ollie, i don't actually i disagree with- ollie, i don't actually i disagree with ollie in this elo — disagree with ollie in this. instance. _there disagree with ollie in this- instance._there is instance. i don't think there is a instance. i don't think there is o-llnl— instance. i don't think there is o-llnl ol— instance. i don't think there is a kind of conspiracy to a huge kind of conspiracy to llnl— a huge kind of conspiracy to llnl ol— a huge kind of conspiracy to kind of undermine what a woman is , kind of undermine what a woman le , lo— kind of undermine what a woman le , lo llnl— kind of undermine what a woman le , lo llnl ol— kind of undermine what a woman is , to kind of gaslight women or is, to kind of gaslight women or onylnlng— 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kind of history worllng wlln— kind of adidas kind of history working with, you know, kanye, the working with, you know, kanye, lne aluelln— working with, you know, kanye, the muslim hiking organisation lney— the muslim hiking organisation lney worl— the muslim hiking organisation they work with— the muslim hiking organisation they work with during ramadan . they work with during ramadan. lnere— they work with during ramadan. lnere le— they work with during ramadan. lnere le o— they work with during ramadan. there is a degree— they work with during ramadan. there is a degree of kind of lwerelly— there is a degree of kind of diversity point— there is a degree of kind of diversity point scoring. and if it diversity point scoring. and if ll le— diversity point scoring. and if ll le lone— diversity point scoring. and if it is done badly,— diversity point scoring. and if it is done badly, it backfires . it is done badly, it backfires. if it is done badly, it backfires. ll you— it is done badly, it backfires. ll you lo— it is done badly, it backfires. ll you lo nol— it is done badly, it backfires. if you do not know your oullenoe— if you do not know your audience, if— if you do not know your audience, if you do not do a looue— audience, if you do not do a looue 9.0...— audience, if you do not do a focus group, which consists of a polonoe— focus group, which consists of a polonoe onl— focus group, which consists of a balance and a— focus group, which consists of a balance and a range of people, lnlnge— balance and a range of people, lnlnge oe— balance and a range of people, lnlnge golng— balance and a range of people, things are going to backfire . things are going to backfire. anl— things are going to backfire. anl you— things are going to backfire. anl you oon— things are going to backfire. and you can see— things are going to backfire. and you can see that if, you lnow,— and you can see that if, you lnow, ll— and you can see that if, you lnow, l r— and you can see that if, you know, if i was— and you can see that if, you know, if i was a— and you can see that if, you know, if i was a brand right now:— know, if i was a brand right now-pe— know, if i was a brand right now,.be keeping- know, if i was a brand right now, be keeping head low now, i'd be keeping my head low and:— now, i'd be keeping my head low andl_p°ppi"9- now, i'd be keeping my head low bride—bowing my| and, you know, and popping my neol— and, you know, and popping my leol-ln— and, you know, and popping my leol-ln o— and, you know, and popping my leol-ln o yeor- and, you know, and popping my head-in a year or- head back up in a year or two wnen— head back up in a year or two wnen lnlnge— head back up in a year or two when things-have- head back up in a year or two when things have died when things perhaps have died lown— when things perhaps have died down. because— when things perhaps have died down. because now, the down. because right now, the wnole—onl- down. because right now, 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and anyone putting anything out were— and anyone putting anything out lnerelwell— and anyone putting anything out there-well, they're— and anyone putting anything out there well, they're going to there is, well, they're going to get-,— there is, well, they're going to get. pul— there is, well, they're going to get. pul lney-re- there is, well, they're going to get , but they're not get seen, but they're not necessarily— get seen, but they're not necessarily get get seen, but they're not necessarily-get in necessarily going to get seen in a necessarily going to get seen in o-llgnl.— necessarily going to get seen in o-llgnl. lle— necessarily going to get seen in o-llgnl. rl-e golng- necessarily going to get seen in a light. it's going to a positive light. it's going to ele— a positive light. it's going to. oreole—wlll a positive light. it's going to. creatrtalking_will a positive light. it's going to creatrtalking about will a positive light. it's going to creatrtalking about the will a positive light. it's going to creatrtalking about the brand.l a positive light. it's going to creatrtalking about the brand us start talking about the brand us and start talking about the brand us onl people— start talking about the brand us and people already saying, and people are already saying, hey— and people are already saying, hey-going— and people are already saying, ney-golng lo- and people are already saying, hey-going to buy- and people are already saying, hey, going to buy adidas hey, i'm not going to buy adidas now:— hey, i'm not going to buy adidas now-lnol— hey, i'm not going to buy adidas now,.that-they're- now, but that means they're going— now, but that means they're golng-oul— now, but that means they're golng-oul ol- now, but that means they're going out of sportswear going to run out of sportswear very,— going to run out of sportswear very-gulelly— going to run out of sportswear very, quickly because very, very quickly because most of very, very quickly because most ol—oll— very, very quickly because most ol—oll lolng- very, very quickly because most of_all doing it.. of the brands are all doing it. anl—loeen-l- of the brands are all doing it. and—doesn't do. and the one that doesn't do it loeen-l— and the one that doesn't do it loeen-l-on— and the one that doesn't do it doesn't-on the- and the one that doesn't do it doesn't on the index. doesn't appear on the index. as oule— doesn't appear on the index. as one eoll— doesn't appear on the index. as one eoll oe— doesn't appear on the index. as ollie said as well.— doesn't appear on the index. as ollie said as well. there's ollie said as well. but there's pronle— ollie said as well. but there's pronle ple— ollie said as well. but there's brands like martens , one of brands like dr. martens, one of my brands like dr. martens, one of ny-llnl— brands like dr. martens, one of ny-llnl ol- brands like dr. martens, one of my kind of gender my favourite kind of gender neulrol— my favourite kind of gender neutral-who - my favourite kind of gender neutral who have written neutral brands who have written to neutral brands who have written lo neorly— neutral brands who have written lo neorly every— neutral brands who have written to nearly every year saying your poole— to nearly every year saying your poole oe— to nearly every year saying your boots are identical— to nearly every year saying your boots are identical men and boots are identical for men and onl you— boots are identical for men and women and you model them in all llnle—pnle- kinds of people. you do pride ellllone— kinds of people. you do pride editions—butl kinds of people. you do pride. editions—but why editions and everything, but why can editions and everything, but why oon-pel— editions and everything, but why oon-iuel gel— editions and everything, but why oon-iuel gel nl- editions and everything, but why can _just get rid of- editions and everything, but why can just get rid of the can you not just get rid of the mole— can you not just get rid of the mole onl— can you not just get rid of the male and female— can you not just get rid of the male and female boot categories? it's male and female boot categories? rl-e—lorlon- male and female boot categories? rl-e—rorlon nyl it's the same thing. pardon my rrenon— it's the same thing. pardon my rrenon pul— it's the same thing. pardon my french, but they— it's the same thing. pardon my french, but they have floral lor— french, but they have floral ones for the _ french, but they have floral ones for the women and they have nonller— ones for the women and they have nonller-lor— ones for the women and they have manlier-for-men.- ones for the women and they have manlier for men. why manlier ones for the men. why oon-llerupl- manlier ones for the men. why can-disrupt what- manlier ones for the men. why can disrupt what is can they not disrupt what is oonellerel— can they not disrupt what is considered masculine and lenlnlnee— considered masculine and feminine? so— considered masculine and feminine? so that actually people— feminine? so that actually people wearing feminine? so that actually- people _wearing clothes people can enjoy wearing clothes and people can enjoy wearing clothes onl lelllng— people can enjoy wearing clothes and letting clothes— people can enjoy wearing clothes and letting clothes be clothes ? and letting clothes be clothes? anl— and letting clothes be clothes? anl lnol-e— and letting clothes be clothes? anl lnol-e o— and letting clothes be clothes? and that's a fair— and letting clothes be clothes? and that's a fair point. - and letting clothes be clothes? and that's a fair point. and- and letting clothes be clothes? and that's a fair point. and so i love my dms as well. katie and the difference that they stop the difference is that they stop at a certain size the women's at a certain size in the women's shoes, so and that's very

frustrating with big frustrating as a woman with big feet. ollie but i think one of the problems a lot of women have with this, with this is this advert is, is the body image and the messaging it does send to women . certainly women in sport women. certainly women in sport and girls who are and young girls who are struggling their own body struggling with their own body image. you are seeing this image. and you are seeing this entire fairly unrepresented unread presentative image of, you know , long legs, long arms you know, long legs, long arms size six and the only other opfion size six and the only other option you're given is, is an obese person, which is unhealthy . why can't why can't we just have normal whatever normal women is and selling us women's clothing ? well, i think that's clothing? well, i think that's wnol— clothing? well, i think that's wnol women— clothing? well, i think that's what women want— trsr“ “rg7’ well, i think that's what women want to see. women wonl— what women want to see. women wonl lo— what women want to see. women wonl lo eee— what women want to see. women want to see different shapes of women, different— want to see different shapes of women, different types of women from— women, different types of women from different— women, different types of women from different ethnic backgrounds, modelling for pronle— backgrounds, modelling for pronlelanl— backgrounds, modelling for brands and should you brands. and we should be, you lnow,— brands. and we should be, you lnow—lnol- brands. and we should be, you know,_that and- know, pushing for that and oeleprole— know, pushing for that and celebrate-i- know, pushing for that and celebrate-i also. know, pushing for that and- celebrate-i also think celebrate that. but i also think we-you— celebrate that. but i also think we-you-elopl celebrate that. but i also think. we-you-elop wnen we need to, you know, stop when it we need to, you know, stop when ll gele— we need to, you know, stop when ll gele lo— we need to, you know, stop when ll gele lo lnle— we need to, you know, stop when it gets to this wokeness because it's it gets to this wokeness because ll-e olnoel— it gets to this wokeness because it's almost what— it gets to this wokeness because it's almost what they're doing it's almost what they're doing ll-oouee— it's almost what they're doing it-cause offence- it's almost what they're doing it cause offence to it almost to cause offence to llnl— it almost to cause offence to llnl ol— it almost to cause offence to llnl ol-lne— it almost to cause offence to kind of the diversity box , kind of tick the diversity box, get kind of tick the diversity box, gel lnol— kind of tick the diversity box, get that corporate equality get that high corporate equality lnlel— get that high corporate equality lnlel eoore— get that high corporate equality index score and— get that high corporate equality

index score and they're all lolng— index score and they're all lolnglngnl— index score and they're all doing right now, but they doing it right now, but they neel— doing it right now, but they neel-lo- doing it right now, but they need to consumers need to listen to consumers peoouee— need to listen to consumers because-light- need to listen to consumers because light lost $6 because bud light lost $6 pllllon— because bud light lost $6 billion week— because bud light lost $6 billion week on week. they're loelng— billion week on week. they're loelng opoul— billion week on week. they're losing about 23.6% of their turnover based— losing about 23.6% of their turnover based on their sales llguree— turnover based on their sales llguree lron — turnover based on their sales figures from last— turnover based on their sales figures from last year. so, you lnow— figures from last year. so, you lnow ,— figures from last year. so, you lnow , people— figures from last year. so, you know , people are— figures from last year. so, you know , people are really standing know, people are really standing up now— know, people are really standing up lle— know, people are really standing up rl-e nol— know, people are really standing up now. it's not simply like, or..— up now. it's not simply like, on, ruel— up now. it's not simply like, oh, we're just going to forget opoul— oh, we're just going to forget opoul lnle. — oh, we're just going to forget about this. brands need to llelen— about this. brands need to llelen lo— about this. brands need to listen to their— about this. brands need to listen to their consumers. and if listen to their consumers. andi ll—ewlnweor if you're marketing a swimwear lue— if you're marketing a swimwear ooelune—you- if you're marketing a swimwear costume—you needi if you're marketing a swimwear. costume _you need to costume for women, you need to llelen— costume for women, you need to llelen lo— costume for women, you need to listen to them.— costume for women, you need to listen to them. so— costume for women, you need to listen to them. so katie listen to them. so what katie eoll— listen to them. so what katie eoll eorller— listen to them. so what katie said earlier is— listen to them. so what katie said earlier is a— listen to them. so what katie said earlier is a great idea. lou— said earlier is a great idea. you lnow,— said earlier is a great idea. you know, maybe get people from llllerenl— different backgrounds, different groupe— different backgrounds, different groupeloone— different backgrounds, different groups-come - and l different backgrounds, different groups come and have groups to come together and have a groups to come together and have o—rr.— groups to come together and have ._re, you— groups to come together and have ._re, you lnow,- a chat about it, you know, lneleol— a chat about it, you know, instead-adidas- a chat about it, you know, instead adidas making instead of just adidas making lneee— instead of just adidas making these-decisions,- instead of just adidas making these decisions, have these executive decisions, have a these executive decisions, have oopoe— these executive decisions, have o onol, ooneull— these executive decisions, have a chat, consult women, consult lrone— a chat, consult women, consult lrone groupe— a chat, consult women, consult trans groups, consult everyone. so trans groups, consult everyone. so onl— trans groups, consult everyone. so onl eee— trans groups, consult everyone. so onl you— trans groups, consult everyone. so and see, you know, what's the peel— so and see, you know, what's the best solution?— so and see, you know, what's the best solution? _we - best solution? how can we give eveoryne— best solution? how can we give everyone a opportunity to feel all everyone a opportunity to feel oll lnol— everyone a opportunity to feel oll lnol lney— everyone a opportunity to feel all that they have a platform lnol— all that they have a platform lnol lney— all that they have a platform lnol lney oe— all that they have a platform that they are being seen and vlelple— that they are being seen and vlelple. so— that they are being seen and visible. so the— that they are being seen and visible. so the trans people are wepe— visible. so the trans people are visible, non—binary people, women— visible, non—binary people, women are visible. how can we do this women are visible. how can we do we ln— women are visible. how can we do we ln o— women are visible. how can we do we ln o woy— women are visible. how can we do this in a way that's— women are visible. how can we do this in a way that's sensitive, lnol-e— this in a way that's sensitive, lnol-e nol— this in a way that's sensitive, lnol-e nol-lo- this in a way that's sensitive, that's not to offend women that's not going to offend women and that's not going to offend women onl—ollenole- and not going to alienate consumers? _ and not going to alienate- consumers? _brilliant. consumers? that's brilliant. thank you very much. thank you. ollie media ollie london, social media influencer . and thank you

influencer. and thank you very much, john campaigner much, katie john went campaigner for a for joining me this afternoon. a debate will doubt go on. debate that will no doubt go on. what think, though? gb what do you think, though? gb views at gb news .uk would you buy that swimming costume? right. you're watching and right. okay. you're watching and listening to gb news saturday with me. dawn neesom . lots more with me. dawn neesom. lots more coming up on today's show , coming up on today's show, including a recent study says a child born this year has less than 1 in 3 chances of becoming a homeowner by the time they're 50. so are many youngsters facing a life of renting . and facing a life of renting. and more on that after these short messages

people's channel britain is watching . welcome back watching. welcome back to gb news saturday with me dawn neesom on your tv online and on digital radio. now a child born lnle— digital radio. now a child born lnle yeor— digital radio. now a child born lnle yeor noe— digital radio. now a child born this year has less— digital radio. now a child born this year has less than- r: g ”elr3 now a child born this year has less than 1 in 3 oonoeen— this year has less than 1 in 3 oonoeen ol— this year has less than 1 in 3 chances of becoming a home owner by chances of becoming a home owner py lne— chances of becoming a home owner py lne lne— chances of becoming a home owner by the time they're— chances of becoming a home owner by the time they're 50. this is ol— by the time they're 50. this is ol o— by the time they're 50. this is one of a number— by the time they're 50. this is one of a number of growing concerns around— one of a number of growing concerns around the current nouelng— concerns around the current nouelng onele— concerns around the current housing crisis .— concerns around the current housing crisis . now, in a recent

housing crisis. now, in a recent lnlervlew— housing crisis. now, in a recent lnlervlew ,— housing crisis. now, in a recent interview , michael gove, the interview, michael gove, the eeorelory— interview, michael gove, the eeorelory ol— interview, michael gove, the secretary of state for levelling up nouelng— secretary of state for levelling up nouelng onl— secretary of state for levelling up housing and communities, vowel— up housing and communities, vowel lo— up housing and communities, vowel lo young— up housing and communities, vowed to young brits that he woull— vowed to young brits that he woull neve— vowed to young brits that he would never let— vowed to young brits that he would never let their dreams of ownlng— would never let their dreams of ownlng lnelr— would never let their dreams of owning their own— would never let their dreams of owning their own homes be oruepel— owning their own homes be crushed. now— owning their own homes be crushed. now joining me now to loll— crushed. now joining me now to loll opoul— crushed. now joining me now to talk about this— crushed. now joining me now to talk about this is— crushed. now joining me now to talk about this is the director of talk about this is the director ol lnleel— talk about this is the director of priced out— talk about this is the director of priced out freddie poser. rrellle— of priced out freddie poser. freddie thank— of priced out freddie poser. freddie thank you very much for rolnlng— freddie thank you very much for rolnlng ne— freddie thank you very much for rolnlng ne lnle— freddie thank you very much for joining me this afternoon. lovely— joining me this afternoon. lovely eunny— joining me this afternoon. lovely sunny saturday out there , evllenlly— lovely sunny saturday out there , evidently. tell— lovely sunny saturday out there , evidently. tell me a little llny— , evidently. tell me a little llny pll— , evidently. tell me a little tiny bit quickly— , evidently. tell me a little tiny bit quickly about what pnoel— tiny bit quickly about what prloel oul— tiny bit quickly about what priced out are— tiny bit quickly about what priced out are actually about wnol— priced out are actually about wnol lo— priced out are actually about wnol lo you— priced out are actually about what do you do.— priced out are actually about what do you do. yeah. so we've peen— what do you do. yeah. so we've been pushing for a while now for basically for the country to build more, build more homes, build more, build more homes, build we that build more houses. we think that the build more houses. we think that lne-onele— build more houses. we think that lne-onele lne— build more houses. we think that the-crisis, the supply- the housing crisis, the supply onele— the housing crisis, the supply crisis,_enough. crisis, there aren't enough plooee—llvei crisis, there aren't enough- places_live. and places for people to live. and lnol-e— places for people to live. and lnol-e-eo— places for people to live. and that's so expensive that's why it's so expensive poln— that's why it's so expensive poln lo— that's why it's so expensive poln lo puy— that's why it's so expensive both to buy rent. that's why it's so expensive both to buy-rent. what both to buy and to rent. so what wove—opoul- both to buy and to rent. so what we've—about thei we've heard this week about the new rental act, the rental renters reform bill is that good news as far as you're concerned ? it's something we've been puenlng— ? it's something we've been puenlng lor— ? it's something we've been puenlng lor o— 7’ it's something we've been pushing for a while. ”rs;“e pushing for a while. the rental norlel— pushing for a while. the rental market has always been tilted quite heavily landlords quite heavily towards landlords , and renters feel they , and renters feel like they don't control don't really have a control over where and they don't don't really have a control over where security and they don't don't really have a control over where security in and they don't don't really have a control over where security in and thlthey've have security in where they've made so it's

made their home. so it's important that the government step in and redress that we need to it's quite to see the detail. it's quite there some loopholes and there are some loopholes and things need to be things that might need to be tidied it's the right tidied up, but it's the right direction travel. right. direction of travel. right. okay. direction of travel. right. - okay. _ particularly okay. and why is it particularly lnporlonl— okay. and why is it particularly lnpononl lor— okay. and why is it particularly important for young renters that this important for young renters that we plll— important for young renters that we plll le— important for young renters that this bill is hopefully going lnougnl— this bill is hopefully going through? well, it's important for through? well, it's important lor oll— through? well, it's important for all private— through? well, it's important for all private renters , but for all private renters, but young— for all private renters, but young pebble— for all private renters, but young people are much more lllely— young people are much more lllely lo— young people are much more likely to rent— young people are much more likely to rent and that's increasingly— likely to rent and that's increasingly true as it's peoonlng— increasingly true as it's becoming more and more unaffordable— becoming more and more unaffordable to buy buy their own home. do— unaffordable to buy buy their own home. jrsr e own home. do you think it is that important? i mean, there are that important? i mean, there nony— that important? i mean, there are many countries— 7 i mean, there are many countries around the worll— are many countries around the worll r— are many countries around the world, i think— are many countries around the world, i think i— are many countries around the world, i think i think it's switzerland— world, i think i think it's switzerland particular, where switzerland in particular, where people— switzerland in particular, where people lonl— switzerland in particular, where people don't own— switzerland in particular, where people don't own their own noee — people don't own their own homes. everybody rents. why do you-ll— homes. everybody rents. why do you-lleo— homes. everybody rents. why do you-itlso important- homes. everybody rents. why do you younger so important homes. everybody rents. why do you younger so im|areant homes. everybody rents. why do you younger so im|are helped that younger people are helped to that younger people are helped lo gel— that younger people are helped lo gel on— that younger people are helped lo gel on lne— that younger people are helped to get on the actual ownership lollere— to get on the actual ownership ladder? well,— to get on the actual ownership ladder? well, i— to get on the actual ownership ladder? well, i think the first lnlng— ladder? well, i think the first lnlng lo— ladder? well, i think the first lnlng lo eoy— ladder? well, i think the first lnlng lo eoy le— ladder? well, i think the first thing to say is it's not even eoey— thing to say is it's not even eoey lo— thing to say is it's not even eoey lo enl— thing to say is it's not even easy to rent anyway. e easy to rent anyway. it's not ple— easy to rent anyway. it's not llle we— easy to rent anyway. it's not like we have well like we have a really well functioning rental system . it's functioning rental system. it's really rent, really expensive to rent, especially in the south—east, but country . and, you but across the country. and, you know, reform bill know, renters reform bill notwithstanding, it's quite an insecure of and insecure form of tenure and that's not necessarily true in europe, but also if you ask

people what they want , the people what do they want, the dream is to own their own home. and should be and i'm not sure we should be telling them they telling them that they should want different . i want something different. i think it's perfectly okay to want home or want to own your own home or flat. think that's fine. and flat. i think that's fine. and the government should be listening to what people want and to deliver the public and trying to deliver the public services that's services they want. and that's that's ownership. as that's home ownership. as we always the devil is always say, though, the devil is in always say, though, the devil is ln-leloll— always say, though, the devil is in detail, especially with always say, though, the devil is in election l, especially with always say, though, the devil is in election coming ially with always say, though, the devil is in election coming up.l with always say, though, the devil is in election coming up. are h always say, though, the devil is in election coming up. are you an election coming up. are you reassured , howard, that what is reassured, howard, that what is in reassured, howard, that what is ln lne— reassured, howard, that what is in the renters— reassured, howard, that what is in the renters reform bill will ooluolly— in the renters reform bill will actually come— in the renters reform bill will actually come to— in the renters reform bill will actually come to pass ? e actually come to pass? it's not oeolr — actually come to pass? it's not oeolr lne— actually come to pass? it's not clear. the government has been talking about doing a renters reform bill for a long time, and this seems a bit like they're just trying to steal, you know, some thunder labour some thunder from the labour party. more party. what i think is much more important, though, is what is the government or the labour party building party going to do about building new no good doing new homes? it's no good doing renters reform if we don't build the flats, build the places for people to actually rent, let alone own this. well, the other lnlng— alone own this. well, the other lnlng lnol-e— alone own this. well, the other thing that's happened- well, the other thing that's happened this week is thing that's happened this week le our— thing that's happened this week le sl— thing that's happened this week is our sir keir— thing that's happened this week is our sir keir starmer has plelgel— is our sir keir starmer has plelgel lo— is our sir keir starmer has pledged to build on green belt lonl— pledged to build on green belt lonl le— pledged to build on green belt lonl le golng— pledged to build on green belt land is going to—

pledged to build on green belt land is going to ignore the wrwpvlen— land is going to ignore the nimbyism and— land is going to ignore the nimbyism and actually build on green— nimbyism and actually build on green pell— nimbyism and actually build on green belt land. _ nimbyism and actually build on green belt land. what are your leellnge— green belt land. what are your feelings about— green belt land. what are your feelings about that ? feelings about that? i think it's feelings about that? i think ll-e peen— feelings about that? i think it's been good rhetoric from keir starmer. it looks like he's moving in the right direction to want to side with the builders, not blockers which the not the blockers which is the phrase used . again, as you phrase he he used. again, as you say, the devil will be in the detail and more importantly, the devil will be in what he actually they can announce actually does. they can announce actually does. they can announce a things and at the a lot of things and at the moment they have a much stronger line on housing than michael gove have. gove and rishi sunak have. whether continue post whether that will continue post election the ones election when they're the ones with marginal seats with with mps in marginal seats with green belt land, who knows , i green belt land, who knows, i hopei green belt land, who knows, i hope i really hope they stick to it. that's what campaigns it. and that's what campaigns like try them like ours will try to hold them to account one thing i'm to account on. the one thing i'm finding understand to account on. the one thing i'm findircertainly understand to account on. the one thing i'm findircertainly itheerstand to account on. the one thing i'm findircertainly ithe greeni to account on. the one thing i'm findiissueiinly ithe greeni to account on. the one thing i'm findiissue isly ithe greeni to account on. the one thing i'm findiissue is we ithe greeni to account on. the one thing i'm findiissue is we haveie greeni to account on. the one thing i'm findiissue is we have solreenl to account on. the one thing i'm findiissue is we have so many belt issue is we have so many brownfield sites that could be cleaned up and developed. we have so many city centres g. we have so many city centres where lnere-e— have so many city centres where lnerele plenly— have so many city centres where there's plenty of— have so many city centres where there's plenty of empty pullllnge— there's plenty of empty pullllnge .— there's plenty of empty buildings . wouldn't it make more buildings. wouldn't it make more sense for this?— buildings. wouldn't it make more sense for this? not— buildings. wouldn't it make more sense for this? not even a pollllool— sense for this? not even a political point— sense for this? not even a political point for both parties to concentrate _ political point for both parties to concentrate on— political point for both parties to concentrate on on using those

areas more? well,— to concentrate on on using those areas more? �*fllrsgg “rs”rs; to concentrate on on using those areas more? “rs”rs; el”rs; areas more? well, there are a number of points to be made there. first of all, green belt and green field are actually two slightly different concepts and there's a lot of brownfield that is technically green belt land, especially around london, is technically green belt land, especialithe'ound london, is technically green belt land, especialithe green_ondon, is technically green belt land, especialithe green belt)n, is technically green belt land, especialithe green belt is just a because the green belt is just a legal it just means legal designation. it just means in countries call in other countries they call them growth boundaries them urban growth boundaries there cities getting too there to stop cities getting too big. theory . second, there big. in theory. second, there isn't the idea that there's just a huge way wave of brownfield sites out there . it's not really sites out there. it's not really true and it's certainly not a long term plan because in the end, use the end, we use up all the brownfield sites . you only make brownfield sites. you only make brownfield sites. you only make brownfield sites. you only make brownfield sites by building on them. is really them. and england is really undeveloped. it's a huge amount of empty land there that we could as i say , not all could use. and as i say, not all green belt is the same. we're not that want to build not saying that we want to build on lovely open fields, but on the lovely open fields, but there are places that are really close to relatively central london are green belt . so london that are green belt. so it's not one or the other. you can have an intelligent policy , can have an intelligent policy, but governments have been talking doing brownfield talking about doing brownfield first least tony blair first since at least tony blair andifs first since at least tony blair and it's not delivered the homes we radical

we need we need a radical rethink, would agree rethink, though i would agree that a lot more we could that there's a lot more we could do of cities to do in the centre of cities to build if what really want build up if what you really want to save belt, you've build up if what you really want to to save belt, you've build up if what you really want to to savethen belt, you've build up if what you really want to to savethen buildingou've build up if what you really want to to savethen building up/e build up if what you really want to to savethen building up in got to allow then building up in cities. to cities. so you don't have to build it's of the two. build out. it's one of the two. right? that's great. build out. it's one of the two. i right?-that's great. thank build out. it's one of the two. i rigivery-that's great. thank rigivery muchiat's great. thank rigivery much for; great. thank rigivery much for; great. usank you very much for joining us lnle— you very much for joining us this afternoon.— you very much for joining us this afternoon. freddie this afternoon. that's freddie loee— this afternoon. that's freddie poeel-ol- this afternoon. that's freddie poser,-of priced. this afternoon. that's freddie poser, of priced out. poser, a director of priced out. llgnl. — poser, a director of priced out. llgnl. we— poser, a director of priced out. llgnl. we love— poser, a director of priced out. right. we have to— poser, a director of priced out. right. we have to move on. and llnolly— right. we have to move on. and llnolly ,— right. we have to move on. and llnolly , alple— right. we have to move on. and finally , albie whitby sea finally, albie whitby sea reellvol— finally, albie whitby sea festival will— finally, albie whitby sea festival will entertain people loloy— festival will entertain people loloy lo— festival will entertain people today to celebrate their fishing nerlloge— today to celebrate their fishing nenloge wlln— today to celebrate their fishing heritage with cooking demonstrations from local and oeleprlly— demonstrations from local and celebrity, chefs— demonstrations from local and celebrity, chefs join us now to lleoover— celebrity, chefs join us now to discover more— celebrity, chefs join us now to discover more about what's going on le. — discover more about what's going on le. leporler— discover more about what's going on is. reporter anna riley, wno-e— on is. reporter anna riley, wno-e ln— on is. reporter anna riley, who's in whitby eating fish and onlpe— who's in whitby eating fish and onlpe .— who's in whitby eating fish and onlpe . pew,— who's in whitby eating fish and chips . hello, anna. how's it chips. hello, anna. how's it going— chips. hello, anna. how's it going up— chips. hello, anna. how's it going up there_ chips. hello, anna. how's it going up there ? “cit? going up there? hello. yes, certainly needed to eat some fish and chips after that last interview we had with the chef that had been cooking. but as you might be able to hear, i'm near the music tent now because this festival , as well as it this festival, as well as it being about food and whitby's fishing heritage that still goes on now . it's also about music

on now. it's also about music and the culture of music and sea shanties. i spoke to richard granger earlier. he's a musician and he's also helped organise this event and this is what he had to say about the musical side of it. it's an equal contributor, if you like, to the heritage of the of the town and of the country in general . the of the country in general. the music we play, by and- rtlsr. “ g the music we play, by and large rt.rsr. “ g the music we play, by and large , is music we play, by and large, is opoul— music we play, by and large, is opoul lne— music we play, by and large, is about the sea— music we play, by and large, is about the sea or— music we play, by and large, is about the sea or about fishing or opoul— about the sea or about fishing or about whaling— about the sea or about fishing or about whaling , which of or about whaling, which of course is reflects the history of course is reflects the history ol lne— course is reflects the history ol lne lown— course is reflects the history ol lne lown .— course is reflects the history of the town . and i think i was of the town. and i think i was explolnel— of the town. and i think i was explained before— of the town. and i think i was explained before that i was lnpreeeel— explained before that i was impressed with— explained before that i was impressed with the eurovision . impressed with the eurovision. wlrolne— impressed with the eurovision. ukraine showing— impressed with the eurovision. ukraine showing off their unique llenllly— ukraine showing off their unique llenllly onl— ukraine showing off their unique identity and things like sea enonllee— identity and things like sea shanties and— identity and things like sea shanties and our sea ballads are unlguely— shanties and our sea ballads are unlguely .—

shanties and our sea ballads are uniquely . british— shanties and our sea ballads are uniquely . british stick around uniquely. british stick around for uniquely. british stick around lor eoe— uniquely. british stick around for some more— uniquely. british stick around for some more music. “t: for some more music. richard oleo— for some more music. richard oleo sung— for some more music. richard also sung as a sea shanty as well that he had written himself , and it's fantastic being immersed in it all. you can just lnoglne— immersed in it all. you can just lnoglne oll— immersed in it all. you can just lnoglne oll ol— immersed in it all. you can just imagine all of those— : “ e you can just imagine all of those years back, pool— imagine all of those years back, pool lo— imagine all of those years back, even back to the— imagine all of those years back, even back to the pirate days, lnoee— even back to the pirate days, lnoee eeo— even back to the pirate days, those sea shanties being sung. so those sea shanties being sung. so lle— those sea shanties being sung. so it's fantastic— those sea shanties being sung. so it's fantastic bringing nlelory— so it's fantastic bringing nlelory lo— so it's fantastic bringing history to life. this weekend pere— history to life. this weekend nere ln— history to life. this weekend here in whitby— history to life. this weekend here in whitby . rrs;”«r here in whitby. thank you very much, anna. enjoy that sunshine and those fish. and chips right now . i'm and those fish. and chips right now. i'm running out of time. it's been an amazing afternoon. thank you so much for joining me. i'm now joined by very me. i'm now joined by the very gorgeous nana looking stunning. if see this outfit in if you could see this outfit in full, you'd have to give us a twirl. at one point. nana. what have you got coming your have you got coming up on your show afternoon? well, show this afternoon? well, i couldn't resist.— show this afternoon? well, i couldn't resist. we're- 7 well, i couldn't resist. we're going to loll— couldn't resist. we're going to loll-allloe— couldn't resist. we're going to talk-adidas as- couldn't resist. we're going to talk adidas as well. talk about adidas as well. ii neon—lneylre mean, what on earth they're lolnge— mean, what on earth they're. lolnge—lolng doing? why why are they doing lnlee— doing? why why are they doing lnree—o- doing? why why are they doing lnree—o rnoni this? why do they have a man lreeeel— this? why do they have a man dressed-women's- this? why do they have a man dressed women's swimming dressed in a women's swimming lue— dressed in a women's swimming ooelune—wnere- dressed in a women's swimmingi costume _where we're costume for women's where we're golng— going to go through that? we're oleo— also going to look at the conservative— also going to look at the conservative party and the lopour— conservative party and the lopour nony.— conservative party and the labour party. the usual stuff lnol— labour party. the usual stuff lnol-onol— labour party. the usual stuff that-chat-and- labour party. the usual stuff that chat and plus that we chat about and plus reolly— that we chat about and plus really important— that we chat about and plus really important to look at llenl— really important to look at rishi sunak— really important to look at rishi sunak who currently rishi sunak who is currently at

the rishi sunak who is currently at lne—.- rishi sunak who is currently at lne—. lne- rishi sunak who is currently at lne—. lne el- | the wonderful thing, the g7. were— the wonderful thing, the g7. were-opoul- the wonderful thing, the g7. we're _about him - the wonderful thing, the g7. - we're _about him .well we're talking about him as well . _oonlng— we're talking about him as well . _oonlng up.- we're talking about him as well . _coming up. okay.l . so that's coming up. okay. well, it. lots . so that's coming up. okay. well, it . lots watch. well, that's it. lots to watch. so well, that's it. lots to watch. eo-lunlng— well, that's it. lots to watch. so-lunlng ue- well, that's it. lots to watch. so-lunlng ue up- well, that's it. lots to watch.| so-tuning us up next. �*fllrsgg e lots to watch. so first, tuning us up next. �*fllrsgg e lots to watch. so first, here's�*ig us up next. �*fllrsgg e lots to watch. so first, here's your up next. �*fllrsgg e lots to watch. so first, here's your weather. but first, here's your weather wlln— but first, here's your weather wlln-snell— but first, here's your weather wlln-snell. - but first, here's your weather with _snell . hello - but first, here's your weather with snell . “rs”rs; with craig snell. hello there. welcome to your gb news weather forecast from the met office. i'm craig snell a look at i'm craig snell having a look at sunday. a bit of a north south split risk some across split risk of some rain across northern scotland , northern ireland and scotland, but elsewhere dry and but elsewhere should be dry and fine in the area of rain is all courtesy of this weather front, which gradually work its which will gradually work its way northern and way towards northern ireland and scotland during the next 24 hours but further south, hours or so. but further south, high pressure remains in charge. so here it's be a fine so here it's going to be a fine second to the weekend . so second half to the weekend. so going into the rest of saturday, you largely skies you can see largely clear skies across a good chunk of england and . but further north, we and wales. but further north, we see area of rain could turn see this area of rain could turn quite places, quite heavy in places, especially across scottish especially across the scottish mountains. no problems mountains. but no problems really here with temperatures . really here with temperatures. but south, the but further south, under the clear could turn quite but further south, under the clear for could turn quite but further south, under the clear for the could turn quite but further south, under the clear for the timed turn quite but further south, under the clear for the time ofurn quite but further south, under the clear for the time of year,iite chilly for the time of year, especially some prone especially across some prone spots the midlands wales spots of the midlands and wales . but that will set us up for another fine day many another fine day across many parts england and wales. a

parts of england and wales. a little bit of parts of england and wales. a little bit of cloud from time to time, eastern time, especially across eastern coasts , but generally the coasts, but generally the cloudier will be reserved cloudier skies will be reserved for northern ireland and scotland will scotland. the rain will weaken as the day goes on. so hopefully by the end of the afternoon we could start to see some sunshine developing for northern parts of scotland also northern scotland and maybe also northern ireland. the the ireland. but the best of the sunshine will further south sunshine will be further south where will see highs reaching where we will see highs reaching 21 or 22 degrees into the evening. the rain will continue to weaken, still will leave behind some cloud across northern ireland and scotland. further south. this is where we see the clearest of the sky. so once again, we could turn quite chilly, especially across parts of wales and into the midlands. but overall, as we start monday morning, we start on a fairly quiet note across the country . quiet note across the country. we still hang on to some cloud across eastern scotland, but it will improve here as the day goes on and generally the best of sunshine will be further goes on and generally the best of and shine will be further goes on and generally the best of and west will be further goes on and generally the best of and west .vill be further goes on and generally the best of and west . you3e further goes on and generally the best of and west . you are.irther goes on and generally the best of and west . you are. and' goes on and generally the best of and west . you are. and as south and west. you are. and as we go into tuesday and wednesday, a very little changes across the country, largely dry

and sunny for a lot of the uk. and in the sunshine it will feel pleasantly warm for the time of year.

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