good afternoon and welcome to gb . good afternoon and welcome to ea views— . good afternoon and welcome to ea views on— - good afternoon and welcome to ea views on w,— - good afternoon and welcome to gb views on tv, online_ good afternoon and welcome to gb views on tv, online and on digital— gb views on tv, online and on digital radio. — gb views on tv, online and on digital radio. nana- gb views on tv, online and on digital radio. w“? z digital radio. nana akua. and for the next few hours, me and my panel will be taking on some of the topics, hitting the of the big topics, hitting the headunes of the big topics, hitting the headlines now. show headlines right now. this show is opinion. mine. is all about opinion. it's mine. it's theirs . and of course, it's theirs. and of course, it's yours. debating , yours. we'll be debating, discussing, we will discussing, and at times we will disagree no one will be disagree, but no one will be cancelled the way . at 4:00, cancelled on the way. at 4:00, i'll be joined by broadcaster and columnist lizzie cundy and also bad picture. do they do also bad picture. why do they do that? to change that? that? do we need to change that? political commentator peter edwards. and in a few moments, i'll be mocking the week with comedian schaffer. but comedian louis schaffer. but before let's get your

before all that, let's get your latest headlines . nana. latest news headlines. nana. thank you. good afternoon. here-s— thank you. good afternoon. here-s your— thank you. good afternoon. here's your latest- good afternoon. here's your latest headlines from— here's your latest headlines from the— here's your latest headlines from the gb— here's your latest headlines from the gb newsroom at 3:00. worm— from the gb newsroom at 3:00. world leaders— from the gb newsroom at 3:00. world leaders have welcomed ukraine-s— world leaders have welcomed ukraine's president to the g7 summit— ukraine's president to the g7 summit in— ukraine's president to the g7 summit in japan— ukraine's president to the g7 summit in japan . good to see you summit in japan. good to see you . tow— summit in japan. good to see you . tow ti— summit in japan. good to see you . tow yout— summit in japan. good to see you . how are you? yeah,— summit in japan. good to see you . how are you? yeah, i'm- summit in japan. good to see you . how are you? yeah, i'm all right, thanks , guys. vladimir right, thanks, guys. vladimir zeienstw— right, thanks, guys. vladimir zetenttyy met— right, thanks, guys. vladimir zelenskyy met with- g g vladimir zelenskyy met with prime minister— zelenskyy met with prime minister rishi _ zelenskyy met with prime minister rishi sunak , who minister rishi sunak, who reiterated— minister rishi sunak, who reiterated the— minister rishi sunak, who reiterated the uk's ongoing showing— reiterated the uk's ongoing showing support for the country in its— showing support for the country in its tight— showing support for the country in its fight against russia. he titt— in its fight against russia. he ttto met— in its fight against russia. he also met with— in its fight against russia. he also met with french president immtntei— also met with french president emmanuel macron, who described his emmanuel macron, who described tie pretence— emmanuel macron, who described tie pteeettee iti— emmanuel macron, who described his presence in japan as a game ettneet— his presence in japan as a game eitttget .— his presence in japan as a game change. it— his presence in japan as a game change. it eate— his presence in japan as a game changer . it says the white his presence in japan as a game changer. it says the white house approved— changer. it says the white house epptetet pitte— changer. it says the white house approved plans to _ changer. it says the white house approved plans to provide f—16 tighter— approved plans to provide f—16 tighter iete— approved plans to provide f—16 tighter iete te— approved plans to provide f—16 fighter jets to ukraine approved plans to provide f—16 fighterjets to ukraine and to fighter jets to ukraine and to titte— fighter jets to ukraine and to tttitt ite— fighter jets to ukraine and to train its pilots.— fighter jets to ukraine and to train its pilots. president zeietetyy— train its pilots. president zelenskyy said the move is a meiot— zelenskyy said the move is a miet teem— zelenskyy said the move is a major boost to— zelenskyy said the move is a major boost to kyivs air power. eut— major boost to kyivs air power. but itteeit — major boost to kyivs air power. but russia says— major boost to kyivs air power. but russia says it— major boost to kyivs air power. but russia says it carries eeteeett— but russia says it carries colossal risks— but russia says it carries colossal risks for the west . colossal risks for the west. iietmmitiie— colossal risks for the west. meanwhile, the _ colossal risks for the west. meanwhile, the head of russia's magnet— meanwhile, the head of russia's wagner mercenary— meanwhile, the head of russia's wagner mercenary group is eitimime— wagner mercenary group is claiming full— wagner mercenary group is claiming full control of the eteetm— claiming full control of the eastern ukrainian city of

immut— eastern ukrainian city of bakhmut. it's- eastern ukrainian city of bakhmut. it's been the focus of the bakhmut. it's been the focus of tie itmteet— bakhmut. it's been the focus of the longest and— bakhmut. it's been the focus of the longest and bloodiest battle of the longest and bloodiest battle tt tite— the longest and bloodiest battle oi the titt— the longest and bloodiest battle of the war. ukraine's deputy tetemee— of the war. ukraine's deputy defence minister says the eittttitm— defence minister says the situation there _ defence minister says the situation there is critical but tite— situation there is critical but its temiet— situation there is critical but has denied the— situation there is critical but has denied the city has fallen . has denied the city has fallen. ite— has denied the city has fallen. iite iettet— has denied the city has fallen. the leader of— has denied the city has fallen. the leader of the— has denied the city has fallen. the leader of the group, which the um— the leader of the group, which the tit titte— the leader of the group, which the uk plans to— the leader of the group, which the uk plans to declare as a terrorist— the uk plans to declare as a terrorist organisation, said its ttteee— terrorist organisation, said its ttteee witt— terrorist organisation, said its forces will withdraw from ettitmtt— forces will withdraw from bakhmut next— forces will withdraw from bakhmut next week for rest and tetttimimt— bakhmut next week for rest and tetttimimt im— bakhmut next week for rest and retraining in other— bakhmut next week for rest and retraining in other news, labour eitime— retraining in other news, labour ettime mete-e— retraining in other news, labour claims there's been a big jump in te— claims there's been a big jump in the number— claims there's been a big jump in the number of— claims there's been a big jump in the number of people dying in att— in the number of people dying in ati tmit— in the number of people dying in a&e amid record— in the number of people dying in a&e amid record waiting times. tis— a&e amid record waiting times. nts imet— a&e amid record waiting times. nhs trust figures— a&e amid record waiting times. nhs trust figures show more than 23,000— nhs trust figures show more than moo petite— nhs trust figures show more than 23,000 people died in emergency teptttmemte— 23,000 people died in emergency departments last— 23,000 people died in emergency departments last year. that's me— departments last year. that's me mete— departments last year. that's 22% more than— departments last year. that's 22% more than the year before . 22% more than the year before. ite— 22% more than the year before. the government— 22% more than the year before. the government says it's tetitetimt— the government says it's delivering a _ the government says it's delivering a record number of teete— delivering a record number of teete epeetimt— delivering a record number of tests speeding up discharges and cutting— tests speeding up discharges and cutting wtitimt— tests speeding up discharges and cutting waiting lists . counting cutting waiting lists. counting is continuing— cutting waiting lists. counting is continuing in— cutting waiting lists. counting is continuing in the local eieetitme— is continuing in the local elections in— is continuing in the local elections in northern ireland, simm— elections in northern ireland, simm tem— elections in northern ireland, sinn fein has— elections in northern ireland, sinn fein has made strong gains and sinn fein has made strong gains tmt it— sinn fein has made strong gains tmt ie em— sinn fein has made strong gains and is on course to— sinn fein has made strong gains and is on course to become the meet— and is on course to become the tttgeet pttty— and is on course to become the tttgeet pttty im— and is on course to become the largest party in local government, with 128 councillors eieetet — government, with 128 councillors eieetet ,— government, with 128 councillors eieetet , tite— government, with 128 councillors elected , the dup— government, with 128 councillors

elected , the dup so far has 111 elected, the dup so far has 111 tmt— elected, the dup so far has 111 tmt tite— elected, the dup so far has 111 and the alliance— elected, the dup so far has 111 and the alliance party has 52. ite— and the alliance party has 52. me te— and the alliance party has 52. it's the first— and the alliance party has 52. it's the first election test for tite— it's the first election test for the ttttiee— it's the first election test for the parties since— it's the first election test for the parties since last year's teeemttt— the parties since last year's assembly elections and takes titte— assembly elections and takes pttee tgtimet— assembly elections and takes place against the backdrop of the stormont_ place against the backdrop of the stormont stalemate . our the stormont stalemate. our netttem— the stormont stalemate. our northern ireland reporter dougie eetttie— northern ireland reporter dougie eetttie says— northern ireland reporter dougie beattie says it's— northern ireland reporter dougie beattie says it's been a good eieetitm— beattie says it's been a good eteetitm tet— beattie says it's been a good election for sinn— beattie says it's been a good election for sinn fein as a dup vete— election for sinn fein as a dup ttte te— election for sinn fein as a dup vote it teem— election for sinn fein as a dup vote is down about— election for sinn fein as a dup vote is down about 1.2% and the dup— vote is down about 1.2% and the dup ,_ vote is down about 1.2% and the i>tii> , timet— vote is down about 1.2% and the i>tii> , which it— vote is down about 1.2% and the dup , which is the— vote is down about 1.2% and the dup , which is the very liberal dup, which is the very liberal imiemiet— dup, which is the very liberal unionist party— dup, which is the very liberal unionist party ,_ dup, which is the very liberal unionist party , is— dup, which is the very liberal unionist party , is down and unionist party, is down and ttetmt— unionist party, is down and ttttmt em — unionist party, is down and around 3.2. and- unionist party, is down and around 3.2. ' i: unionist party, is down and around 3.2. i: unionist party, is down and around 3.2. ' i: unionist party, is down and around 3.2. i: unionist party, is down and- around 3.2. and the tuv is up at about 1.5. so that means that liberal unionism is going they are becoming the moderate side of unionist are becoming much sterner and they are turning away from the good friday agreement . this is a massive agreement. this is a massive blow for anybody that wants to get stormont up and running again because chris heaton—harris was always about threatening unionists that he would to another election . would go to another election. the man has scaled the front the mah has scaled the front of the man has scaled the front of the the man has scaled the front of tie etc— the man has scaled the front of the bbc building— the man has scaled the front of the bbc building in central ttmttm— the bbc building in central temttm im— the bbc building in central london in protest against a historic— london in protest against a historic statue. _ london in protest against a historic statue. the man has teem— historic statue. the man has

been seen hammering at the premiere— been seen hammering at the prospero ariel— been seen hammering at the prospero ariel statue , which has prospero ariel statue, which has teem— prospero ariel statue, which has been em— prospero ariel statue, which has teem em tiepity— prospero ariel statue, which has been on display since 1933. petite— been on display since 1933. itiiee tmt— been on display since 1933. police and rescue teams are mete— police and rescue teams are titete tt— police and rescue teams are titete tt tite— police and rescue teams are there at the moment negotiating with— there at the moment negotiating with mim— there at the moment negotiating with him thet— there at the moment negotiating with him and campaigners have teem— with him and campaigners have been etitiht— with him and campaigners have been calling for— with him and campaigners have been calling for its removal as the emitter— been calling for its removal as the sculptor eric— been calling for its removal as the sculptor eric gill recalls eexutitt— the sculptor eric gill recalls sexually abusing his daughters in sexually abusing his daughters ih hie— sexually abusing his daughters in his diaries.— sexually abusing his daughters in his diaries. the metropolitan petite— in his diaries. the metropolitan heiiee htve— in his diaries. the metropolitan police have been— in his diaries. the metropolitan police have been on site since the— police have been on site since the ethy— police have been on site since the early hours— police have been on site since the early hours of— police have been on site since the early hours of this morning tmt— the early hours of this morning tht ety— the early hours of this morning tht ett it— the early hours of this morning and say it hasn't— the early hours of this morning and say it hasn't been possible to ettett— and say it hasn't been possible to safely detain— and say it hasn't been possible to safely detain him yet . a man to safely detain him yet. a man item— to safely detain him yet. a man ttem eetth— to safely detain him yet. a man from south london— to safely detain him yet. a man from south london will appear in teth— from south london will appear in eettt ittet— from south london will appear in court later after— from south london will appear in court later after police found whtt— court later after police found whtt thet— court later after police found what they believe is a significant— what they believe is a significant specialist weapons ttetem— significant specialist weapons ttetem .— significant specialist weapons ttetem . ihe— significant specialist weapons factory . the national crime factory. the national crime agehet— factory. the national crime agehey eitime— factory. the national crime agency claims the industrial thit— agency claims the industrial emit wte— agency claims the industrial unit was being— agency claims the industrial unit was being used to convert hithh— unit was being used to convert hitht tithe— unit was being used to convert blank firing guns— unit was being used to convert blank firing guns into lethal wetehe— blank firing guns into lethal weapons using— blank firing guns into lethal weapons using 3d printed parts. they— weapons using 3d printed parts. ihew teemi— weapons using 3d printed parts. they found more— weapons using 3d printed parts. they found more than 100 rounds of they found more than 100 rounds et tite— they found more than 100 rounds of live ammunition— they found more than 100 rounds of live ammunition and a thetetht— of live ammunition and a thousand rounds of blanks . evan thousand rounds of blanks. evan tittieetehe— thousand rounds of blanks. evan girdlestone is— thousand rounds of blanks. evan girdlestone is due— thousand rounds of blanks. evan girdlestone is due before ctewteh— girdlestone is due before croydon magistrates court ehtttet— croydon magistrates court charged with— croydon magistrates court charged with offences under the titettme— charged with offences under the titettme aet— charged with offences under the titettme wet .— charged with offences under the firearms act . police have seized firearms act. police have seized 15 firearms act. police have seized is teete— firearms act. police have seized is tete thet— firearms act. police have seized 15 dogs and arrested two people

titer— 15 dogs and arrested two people the t— 15 dogs and arrested two people the t mth— 15 dogs and arrested two people after a man was— 15 dogs and arrested two people after a man was killed in a dog tttteh— after a man was killed in a dog tttteh im— after a man was killed in a dog attack in greater— after a man was killed in a dog attack in greater manchester. ihe— attack in greater manchester. ihe ei— attack in greater manchester. ihe ei wett— attack in greater manchester. the 37 year old— attack in greater manchester. the 37 year old jonathan hogg titted— the 37 year old jonathan hogg was killed in— the 37 year old jonathan hogg was killed in leigh on thursday . a ze— was killed in leigh on thursday . a ze wett— was killed in leigh on thursday .a ze wett eit— was killed in leigh on thursday . a 24 year old man was arrested on . a 24 year old man was arrested eh eteeieieh— . a 24 year old man was arrested eh eteeieieh et— . a 24 year old man was arrested on suspicion of being in charge of on suspicion of being in charge et t— on suspicion of being in charge of a dangerously— on suspicion of being in charge of a dangerously out of control dog— of a dangerously out of control dog etteiht— of a dangerously out of control dog causing death and a 22 year old dog causing death and a 22 year eit wemth— dog causing death and a 22 year old woman has— dog causing death and a 22 year old woman has also been arrested on old woman has also been arrested eh etehieieh— old woman has also been arrested eh eteeieieh et— old woman has also been arrested on suspicion of money laundering . wete— on suspicion of money laundering . wete thth— on suspicion of money laundering . more than 300— on suspicion of money laundering . more than 300 jars of honey were produced— . more than 300 jars of honey were produced last year at htetimghtm — were produced last year at buckingham palace with some of it being— buckingham palace with some of it being eewet— buckingham palace with some of it being served to— buckingham palace with some of it being served to garden party tweete— it being served to garden party tteete. a— it being served to garden party gteete. a ew— it being served to garden party guests. a new image of the htiheeee— guests. a new image of the htiheeee et— guests. a new image of the princess of wales has been teieteet— princess of wales has been teieteet te— princess of wales has been released to mark world bee day to released to mark world bee day te ehew— released to mark world bee day te ehew tewti— released to mark world bee day to show royal beekeepers tending to show royal beekeepers tending te hiwee— to show royal beekeepers tending te hiwee tt— to show royal beekeepers tending to hives at buckingham palace thet— to hives at buckingham palace tht ctttehee— to hives at buckingham palace and clarence house. the queen is and clarence house. the queen is t teem— and clarence house. the queen is a keen beekeeper— and clarence house. the queen is a keen beekeeper with honey made by a keen beekeeper with honey made iw het— a keen beekeeper with honey made iw het heee— a keen beekeeper with honey made by her bees sold— a keen beekeeper with honey made by her bees sold at— a keen beekeeper with honey made by her bees sold at fortnum and wteeh— by her bees sold at fortnum and iiteem te— by her bees sold at fortnum and mason to raise— by her bees sold at fortnum and mason to raise money for charity . vet-te— mason to raise money for charity . wethe te— mason to raise money for charity wethe te te— mason to raise money for charity . you're up to date— mason to raise money for charity . you're up to date on gb news .you're up to date on gb news new— .you're up to date on gb news new ite— .you're up to date on gb news new he met— .you're up to date on gb news now it's back to— .you're up to date on gb news now it's back to nana .

now it's back to nana. | hete— now it's back to nana. l hello. good- now it's back to nana.- - hello. good afternoon. now it's back to nana. hello. good afternoon. welcome aboard it's approaching. aboard. it's fast approaching. six minutes after 3:00. this is gb news on tv online and on digital radio. i'm nana akua . digital radio. i'm nana akua. and it's time for mock the week. and it's time for mock the week. and there's been so much going on. let's start with the g7 , an on. let's start with the g7, an annual event for the seven major advanced economies that i don't know. we still one of those which this year has been held in japan. the ukrainian president, vladimir zelenskyy, flew in this morning and rishi sunak arrived there earlier in the with there earlier in the week with his now, people say his wife. now, some people say that taxpayer have that the taxpayer would have paid russia's wife's flight. paid for russia's wife's flight. she went along, even though she also went along, even though they're rich, apparently they're uber rich, apparently all the other major leaders brought wives as brought their wives along as well. begs the question, well. but it begs the question, do you believe that russia can actually man actually relate to the man on the got so the street seeing as he's got so much then in yet another much money? then in yet another brand decided go the same brand of decided to go the same woke as bud light, adidas or woke way as bud light, adidas or adidas in their wisdom and even after seeing the drop in sales for bud light after they used dylan mulvaney , they've decided dylan mulvaney, they've decided to use a man to model women's

sportswear dumas women's swimming costume . really? adidas swimming costume. really? adidas would argue that they were emphasising the importance of breaking down gender barriers , breaking down gender barriers, although i don't see what that's got to do with it. a man shouldn't be wearing a woman's swimming costume. why would they be i'm not buying be doing that? i'm not buying it. if you're it. literally. i mean, if you're selling costume selling me a swimming costume and why have you and it's for women, why have you got a man modelling it? it's absolutely goodbye absolutely ridiculous. goodbye adidas. harry and meghan, the duke and duchess of montecito. or should we rename them the dukes of hazard? a bit out for a so—called two hour spin, which some would say that's what this is . spin. some would say that's what this is. spin. they were some would say that's what this is . spin. they were apparently is. spin. they were apparently involved in a near catastrophic car chase . their spokesperson's car chase. their spokesperson's words, not mine. and it happened after gave a word salad after meghan gave a word salad of speech, something about of a speech, something about service , presumably self service, presumably self service, presumably self service, and advocacy. service, kindness and advocacy. yeah right. yes. an advocate for breaking up families. they left the venue through the back way, thereby not giving the press a chance to photograph them . a car chance to photograph them. a car chase ensued, resulting in h&m hopping into a yellow new york

cab to apparently escape the danger , frankly. i mean, is that danger, frankly. i mean, is that really an escape? we'll talk about that more in my monologue. that's coming up at four. and finally , we move on to holly and finally, we move on to holly and phil reminds me rosie and phil reminds me of rosie and jim. remember those .7 do jim. do you remember those? do you there's you remember them? there's apparently falling out. apparently been a falling out. philip's in philip's brother has been in prison sexually a prison for sexually abusing a teenage now there no teenage boy. now there is no suggestion was suggestion that phil was involved in any or much involved in any way or much about his brother and what he was up to . however, nonetheless, was up to. however, nonetheless, people be distancing people appear to be distancing themselves from philip , most of themselves from philip, most of them, who have met him them, most who have met him don't have a nice word to say. frankly, for them both frankly, it's time for them both to go qg8 was the start of their decline. they've been on the sofa gathering dust for 14 years. enough is enough. find some new faces . itv it's been a some new faces. itv it's been a mucky all week, but . and mucky all week, but. and breaking news after my mucky all week it's turned even grubbier philip schofield has actually stepped down now from itv. we've

heard that news just here. it's hot off the press. stay tuned. we'll be talking about of we'll be talking about all of that the but that later on in the show. but this up in this is what's coming up in this houn this is what's coming up in this hour. louis schaffer hour. comedian louis schaffer will to me with his will be talking to me with his top stories. we're about top stories. we're talking about zelenskyy at the g7 adidas choosing biological man to choosing a biological man to model female swimming suit. model a female swimming suit. prince harry and meghan going on a high speed car chase. and of course, the intensifying rift between holly and phil. but we just discovered he stepped down. between holly and phil. but we just ttunedzred he stepped down. between holly and phil. but we just ttuned .ed he stepped down. between holly and phil. but we just ttuned . then stepped down. between holly and phil. but we just ttuned . then atapped down. between holly and phil. but we just ttuned . then at 320,i down. between holly and phil. but we just ttuned . then at 320, it'swn. stay tuned. then at 320, it's climate control . the climate control. the government's net zero plans could leave households nearly £120 worse off to fund the development of hydrogen gas. then at 335, i'll be joined by the flood guy, simon crowther, who'll be talking about sewage spills. very nice. savoury topic. members of the public are up in arms as water suppliers in england have announced that they could spend £10 billion using customers money to combat the issue. yet they've been giving out a load of cash to their shareholders. then at 345, i'll be joined by property expert ricardo blanco. renters have set

up are set to gain more rights to stand up to unfair landlords as part of the government's new rental reforms. but is this a step in the right direction .7 step in the right direction? stay tuned. as former tory minister ann widdecombe will join me for political spotlight to dish all the juicy gossip and all of that is on the way in the next hour. tell me what you think on everything we're discussing. email gbviews@gbnews.uk. me gbviews@gbnews.uk. or tweet me at . gb news. well, gbviews@gbnews.uk. or tweet me at. gb news. well, joining me now is stand up comedian louis shepherd. louis very good. right? let's have you been you've been all right. i've been all right. i'm dressed casually, so all right. i'm dressed casually, ee i— all right. i'm dressed casually, ee i etem-t— all right. i'm dressed casually, so i don't know.— all right. i'm dressed casually, so i don't know. it— q i'm dressed casually, so i don't know. it might be a teet— so i don't know. it might be a teeh tet— so i don't know. it might be a new look for the— so i don't know. it might be a new look for the people out there.— new look for the people out there htt— new look for the people out there. but you _ new look for the people out there. but you said i looked all tight.— there. but you said i looked all tight-lthihh— there. but you said i looked all right. think looked good. right. i think you looked good. vet—eh- right. i think you looked good. you—oh, thank. you are beautiful. oh, thank wet.— you are beautiful. oh, thank wet-wet— you are beautiful. oh, thank wet-wet-whttl you are beautiful. oh, thank you.-you-what like you. and you know what it's like when— you. and you know what it's like when-beautiful.- you. and you know what it's likei when-beautiful.-are when you look beautiful. you are tetttitti. — when you look beautiful. you are beautiful. -beautiful.. beautiful. you are beautiful. not always some that not always. some people that are pretty inside . no names you pretty ugly inside. no names you mentioned this . so let's mentioned on this. so let's let's with g7 . we are one let's start with g7. we are one of the seven important nations right now. right now we are

etem-t— right now. right now we are teh-t ttih— right now. right now we are don't talk britain _ ” g right now we are don't talk britain down. yeah, i-m — don't talk britain down. yeah, i-m het— don't talk britain down. yeah, i'm not talking— don't talk britain down. yeah, i'm not talking it— don't talk britain down. yeah, i'm not talking it down. but mthw— i'm not talking it down. but my teeth— i'm not talking it down. but many people say what's amazing ttett— many people say what's amazing ttett-ei— many people say what's amazing thett-ei .— many people say what's amazing thett-ei , ee— many people say what's amazing about-g7 , g8, g20,- about these g7, g8, g20, whttewet— about these g7, g8, g20, whateve.-,- about these g7, g8, g20, whatever-, it's. about these g7, g8, g20,. whatever-, it's like whatever they are, it's like ite— whatever they are, it's like he tite— whatever they are, it's like it's like the _ whatever they are, it's like it's like the it's— whatever they are, it's like it's like the it's like the teetttit. — it's like the it's like the football. it's— it's like the it's like the football. it's like there's teteettieh— football. it's like there's relegation and promotion, which is relegation and promotion, which ie—ttett- relegation and promotion, which ie—thett thie- is the best thing about this eethttw— is the best thing about this eethttw-thtt- is the best thing about this country,-that a- is the best thing about this country, that a team can country, see, is that a team can be country, see, is that a team can tee-thei— country, see, is that a team can te-tht 90— country, see, is that a team can te-tht 90 he- country, see, is that a team can be-and go be once. country, see, is that a team can be and go be once on be relegated and go be once on top be relegated and go be once on tee thei— be relegated and go be once on tee tht te— be relegated and go be once on tee tmt te tit— be relegated and go be once on top and be all the— be relegated and go be once on top and be all the way down or be top and be all the way down or helme— top and be all the way down or be .the bottom _ top and be all the way down or be .the bottom .go- top and be all the way down or be the bottom go the be on the bottom and go all the way— be on the bottom and go all the wtw—aht— be on the bottom and go all the wtw—imt it- be on the bottom and go all the way—and if britain. way to the top. and if britain teeeh-t— way to the top. and if britain doesn't-fighting- way to the top. and if britain doesn't fighting , i doesn't keep on fighting, i etem-t— doesn't keep on fighting, i tent-te— doesn't keep on fighting, i teh-t-te htt- doesn't keep on fighting, i don't to put the country don't want to put the country tewm— don't want to put the country tewm-it-e— don't want to put the countryi down-it'siamazing down because it's an amazing eethtw. — down because it's an amazing eethtw. iiewe— down because it's an amazing country. .love-love. down because it's an amazingl country. .love-love the country. we love it. i love the united amazing. united kingdom. it's amazing. it because it's our it is amazing because it's our heme— it is amazing because it's our heme-the— it is amazing because it's our home the moment and my kids home at the moment and my kids and home at the moment and my kids met-tite— home at the moment and my kids tht-hite thet— home at the moment and my kids and-kids and my— home at the moment and my kids and kids and my kids are and my kids and my kids are thetieh— and my kids and my kids are thetieh ttt— and my kids and my kids are english, but but— and my kids and my kids are english, but but but the thing thett— english, but but but the thing ttett the— english, but but but the thing about the g7— english, but but but the thing about the g7 thing is that it's about the g7 thing is that it's t ite— about the g7 thing is that it's t he t— about the g7 thing is that it's t he t het— about the g7 thing is that it's a it's a list of— about the g7 thing is that it's a it's a list of countries teiiewe— a it's a list of countries believe it— a it's a list of countries believe it or— a it's a list of countries believe it or not, that are teeihe— believe it or not, that are ieeimt ih— believe it or not, that are losing in the— believe it or not, that are losing in the world. and i all the— losing in the world. and i all the countries— losing in the world. and i all the countries are— losing in the world. and i all the countries are countries one heiht— the countries are countries one heiht the— the countries are countries one peimt the ei— the countries are countries one point the g7 made— the countries are countries one point the g7 made up 70 or 80% of point the g7 made up 70 or 80% et the— point the g7 made up 70 or 80% et the entire— point the g7 made up 70 or 80% of the entire gnp— point the g7 made up 70 or 80% of the entire gnp .— point the g7 made up 70 or 80% of the entire gnp. is point the g7 made up 70 or 80% of the entire gnp . is that the of the entire gnp. is that the tight— of the entire gnp. is that the tight wette— of the entire gnp. is that the right word? gdp,— of the entire gnp. is that the right word? gdp, gdp of the entire— right word? gdp, gdp of the entire world. _ right word? gdp, gdp of the entire world. and now it's , i entire world. and now it's, i thith— entire world. and now it's, i thihh he.— entire world. and now it's, i thihh he. se— entire world. and now it's, i think, 44. so we're heading down inte— think, 44. so we're heading down the etiiwiem— think, 44. so we're heading down into oblivion. so— think, 44. so we're heading down into oblivion. so maybe it's teet— into oblivion. so maybe it's teet thtt— into oblivion. so maybe it's best that we— into oblivion. so maybe it's best that we stay together

heettee— best that we stay together because we're _ best that we stay together because we're going to need each ether.— because we're going to need each ethet. ett— because we're going to need each other. but we're _ because we're going to need each other. but we're all— because we're going to need each other. but we're all thinking teeethet— other. but we're all thinking teeethet ih— other. but we're all thinking together in the— other. but we're all thinking together in the same place, on the-teth— together in the same place, on the-boat.-same- together in the same place, on. the-boat.-same ship. the same boat. yeah, same ship. ihie— the same boat. yeah, same ship. ihielthe— the same boat. yeah, same ship. ihielthe ei— the same boat. yeah, same ship. this-the g7-and- the same boat. yeah, same ship. this the g7 and then this is the g7 boat. and then eeeihe— this is the g7 boat. and then eeeihe i— this is the g7 boat. and then we're seeing i mean, bring we're seeing i mean, they bring zetehehww— we're seeing i mean, they bring zetemehww ih— we're seeing i mean, they bring zelenskyy in who's— we're seeing i mean, they bring zelenskyy in who's an who's a eemetith— zelenskyy in who's an who's a eemetith et— zelenskyy in who's an who's a comedian or an— zelenskyy in who's an who's a comedian or an i— zelenskyy in who's an who's a comedian or an i guess he's an ex eemeitht — comedian or an i guess he's an ex comedian. you— comedian or an i guess he's an ex comedian. you know, there's a etwihe. — ex comedian. you know, there's a etwihe. thew-te— ex comedian. you know, there's a saying. they're saying that show me-eemetith— saying. they're saying that show me-comedian fans- saying. they're saying that show me comedian fans are bored me when comedian fans are bored , when— me when comedian fans are bored ,wheh petitieithe— me when comedian fans are bored , when politicians when eemeithte— , when politicians when comedians are bored with with eemetw— comedians are bored with with eemetw, thew— comedians are bored with with eemetw, they 90— comedians are bored with with comedy, they go into politics thei— comedy, they go into politics met when— comedy, they go into politics and when politicians are bored with— and when politicians are bored with petitiee— and when politicians are bored with politics, they go into eemetw— with politics, they go into eemetw. vett— with politics, they go into comedy. very good. i like that. i comedy. very good. i like that. i mtte— comedy. very good. i like that. i mtte thtt— comedy. very good. i like that. i made that up. _ comedy. very good. i like that. i made that up. “j i: :::ic.7 comedy. very good. i like that. i made that up. “j i: :::i.7 i made that up. did you? i knew you did. i was thinking that. what? boris johnson, is he a comedian? well, he's become a eemeitht — comedian? well, he's become a eemeitht he— comedian? well, he's become a comedian. he was— comedian? well, he's become a comedian. he was funny- f: 3�*7 well, he's become a comedian. comedian? well, he's become a comedian. he was funny at the beforehand, wasn't he? beforehand, though, wasn't he? uh off being funny uh, did he start off being funny or uh, did he start off being funny et—tetht- uh, did he start off being funny et—tetmt him- uh, did he start off being funny or_found him thati uh, did he start off being funny or found him that uh, did he start off being funny or 31nd him that uh, did he start off being funny or g him that uh, did he start off being funny or g that uh, did he start off being funny or-i thought he was quitei funny. i thought he was quite good. he was good. but good. i thought he was good. but listen, have listen, we're going to have some more latest breaking more on the latest breaking news. phillip news. the itv presenter phillip schofield from schofield will step down from this morning immediate this morning with immediate effect. yes, that's what's happening yeah, immediate happening. yeah, immediate effect. think effect. so what do you think with holly and phil with regard to holly and phil then? well, television with regard to holly and phil that? well, television with regard to holly and phil th a dyingll, television with regard to holly and phil tha dying medium television with regard to holly and phil tha dying medium ,television with regard to holly and phil tha dying medium , you'ision with regard to holly and phil tha dying medium , you know, is a dying medium, you know, exeeht— is a dying medium, you know, exeeht tet— is a dying medium, you know, except tet te— is a dying medium, you know, except for us of— is a dying medium, you know, except for us of course. except for except for us of course. except tet — except for us of course. except tet weth— except for us of course. except

tet weth. i— except for us of course. except for us. yeah. i think . i think for us. yeah. i think. i think whee— for us. yeah. i think. i think who's interested in itv anymore? is who's interested in itv anymore? ie thwhetw— who's interested in itv anymore? is anybody interested in itv? is thwtetw— is anybody interested in itv? is anybody interested in bbc, anybody interested in the bbc, theme— anybody interested in the bbc, theme-the— anybody interested in the bbc, then?-the media- then? not even the media eemethw.— company. they're state tteetetmtt— company. they're state propaganda service. i'll have to say propaganda service. i'll have to etw thtt— propaganda service. i'll have to etw thtt . — propaganda service. i'll have to etw thtt . i— propaganda service. i'll have to say that . i think.— propaganda service. i'll have to say that . �*fw�*iz;cc say that. i think. well, i think you're right , though. you're probably right, though. that's thing, right? i that's the thing, right? so i etem-t— that's the thing, right? so i teh-t thith— that's the thing, right? so i don't think i— that's the thing, right? so i don't think i don't think itv hte— don't think i don't think itv hte-etehet— don't think i don't think itv has-cachet that- don't think i don't think itv has cachet that it used to has the cachet that it used to htwe. — has the cachet that it used to htwe. -wettt- have. not that i would know. i twe— have. not that i would know. i i've never watched— have. not that i would know. i i've never watched so i've never watched it. so i etem-t— i've never watched it. so i teh-t thew. — i've never watched it. so i don't know. ijust- i've never watched it. so i. don't know. ijust-just don't know. i just think i just think—et- don't know. i just think i just think—eh mt- think at the end of my assessment— think at the end of my assessment from a distance is i thith— assessment from a distance is i think-teeth— assessment from a distance is i think-people like- assessment from a distance is i think people like the think i think people like the with— think i think people like the with grey— think i think people like the man with grey hair. they like me they— man with grey hair. they like me they tite— man with grey hair. they like me they tite grey— man with grey hair. they like me , they like grey hair. and i think— , they like grey hair. and i think thew— , they like grey hair. and i think they found him warm and etttiw— think they found him warm and cuddly without— think they found him warm and cuddly without being too threatening. _ cuddly without being too threatening. and they liked and thew— threatening. and they liked and they thet— threatening. and they liked and they titet het— threatening. and they liked and they liked her. but over time, you— they liked her. but over time, yet get— they liked her. but over time, yet get teet— they liked her. but over time, you get bored with people. they wemt— you get bored with people. they wemt tetethet— you get bored with people. they went together for— you get bored with people. they went together for like 13 years. it's went together for like 13 years. it-elwette. — went together for like 13 years. it's-years, actually. - went together for like 13 years. it's-years, actually. too - it's 14 years, actually. too long, . 14 years. it's quite long, man. 14 years. it's quite a long, man. 14 years. it's quite t tene— long, man. 14 years. it's quite t tehe time.— long, man. 14 years. it's quite a long time. have— long, man. 14 years. it's quite a long time. have you- trig 14 years. it's quite a long time. have you ever been mtttiete— a long time. have you ever been mtmiete tet— a long time. have you ever been married? for 14— a long time. have you ever been married? for 14 years. i've never been married. nobody wants me. i want you . do me. i do want you. do you. do you— me. i do want you. do you. do wet wtteh— me. i do want you. do you. do you watch that? she's watching now. happy now. she won't be very happy with be happy, with you. she won't be happy, but have to learn but she's going to have to learn to it. you know it is. to live with it. you know it is. wem— to live with it. you know it is. men-hypergamv- to live with it. you know it is. men-hypergamy too. - c c you know it is. men hypergamy too. they men have hypergamy too. they tiwtwe—tetteti men have hypergamy too. they alwa i s_ better. i men have hypergamy too. they alwai think better. men have hypergamy too. they alwai think the better. men have hypergamy too. they alwai think the two better. men have hypergamy too. they

alwai think the two usttter. and i think the two of us teeethet— and i think the two of us together would and i think the two of us- together would -we'd be together would be an a, we'd be a i together would be an a, we'd be t i wetit— together would be an a, we'd be t i wettt ett— together would be an a, we'd be a i would say would be a power eettie— a i would say would be a power eetete. wet— a i would say would be a power eetete. we-t te— a i would say would be a power couple. we'd be would have couple. we'd be you would have the-tht— couple. we'd be you would have the-thtt i— couple. we'd be you would have the-and i would- the power and i would be tetiewihe—l the power and i would be- following_, basically. following you around, basically. so following you around, basically. se whtt— following you around, basically. se whtt te— following you around, basically. se whtt the you— following you around, basically. so what do you think— following you around, basically. so what do you think that- following you around, basically. so what do you think that do you think so? itv do you think holly will go as well? i think so? itv do you think holly will go as well .7 i don't think will go as well? i don't think so, will go as well? i don't think i— will go as well? i don't think so, no. i think— cc gist 7 i don't think so, no. i think because i think ehe-e— so, no. i think because i think ehe-e wett— so, no. i think because i think she's well liked— so, no. i think because i think she's well liked at the present meet — she's well liked at the present meet amt— she's well liked at the present moment. and i— she's well liked at the present moment. and i think it's time for moment. and i think it's time tet t— moment. and i think it's time tet t ehtmte— moment. and i think it's time for a change. normally, it's ihteteetiht— for a change. normally, it's interesting because normally it's interesting because normally it-e—thel interesting because normallyi it-e—the eiti it's the guy who kicks the girl out it's the guy who kicks the girl ett tet— it's the guy who kicks the girl out for something better. but in thie— out for something better. but in thie etee— out for something better. but in thie ite— out for something better. but in this case, it's not.— out for something better. but in this case, it's not. i— out for something better. but in this case, it's not. i don't think— this case, it's not. i don't think ite— this case, it's not. i don't think it's going- this case, it's not. i don't think it's going to be that way. vet— think it's going to be that way. vet-eee— think it's going to be that way. you-see-don't- think it's going to be that way. you see don't want to you can see he's i don't want to say— you can see he's i don't want to etw thwthihe— you can see he's i don't want to etw thwthime ttt— you can see he's i don't want to say anything bad about him teettee— say anything bad about him because-don't- say anything bad about him because don't know what because we don't know what the tttth — because we don't know what the tttth lwet— because we don't know what the truth .well, -well, - because we don't know what the truth .well, -well, dol truth is. well, listen. well, do you— truth is. well, listen. well, do wet—it- truth is. well, listen. well, dol you—islscuff you know what philip is a scuff on on his i think his on his on his i think his instagram twitter or one of instagram or twitter or one of them, i have always i them, he says, i have always i have always to cover have always been proud to cover fascinating stories on this morning . but recently, morning. but recently, this morning. but recently, this morning has become the morning itself has become the story throughout my career in tv, including the new the very difficult last few days. i've always done my best to be honourable and kind. i understand that itv really sorry, i understand that itv has

decided the current situation can't go on and i want to do what i can to protect the show that i love. so i have agreed to step down from this morning with immediate effect in the hope that the show can move forward to a bright future . yeah, i'd to a bright future. yeah, i'd like to thank everyone who has supported me, especially this morning's amazing viewers. and i'll you all for the soap i'll see you all for the soap awards next month . oh, that's awards next month. oh, that's what he said. it's so funny. you know, such a british you know, that's such a british thiht. — you know, that's such a british thiht. ihe— you know, that's such a british thing. the idea— you know, that's such a british thing. the idea of— you know, that's such a british thing. the idea of somebody teeiemimt— thing. the idea of somebody resigning-know- thing. the idea of somebody resigning, know , it's like thing. the idea of somebody resoneig, know , it's like thing. the idea of somebody resone gets know , it's like thing. the idea of somebody resone gets firedow , it's like thing. the idea of somebody resone gets fired in , it's like thing. the idea of somebody resone gets fired in this; like no one gets fired in this place. ihete—thete. there everybody steps out there. ihete— there everybody steps out there. mete—tet— there everybody steps out there. ihete—tet et— there everybody steps out there. there—lot of swords. there must be a lot of swords ett— there must be a lot of swords ett thee— there must be a lot of swords out there because _ there must be a lot of swords out there because they're always eteeeihe— out there because they're always eteeeiheltheit— out there because they're always stepping their swords. stepping on their swords. they tiwtwe— always they know one. when was the—wtel the last person you heard was hete— the last person you heard wasj fired?_de—man fired? they're always de—man timing— fired? they're always de—man tinting—teeiehl fired? they're always de—man tinting—eette .| finding these people resign. ihie— finding these people resign. ihie eee— finding these people resign. this person has— finding these people resign. this person has done the worst job this person has done the worst iet eter— this person has done the worst tet tht— this person has done the worst job ever and they— this person has done the worst job ever and they basically he wte-inte— job ever and they basically he was-into-office. job ever and they basically hei was-into-office and was brought into the office and he-wet— was brought into the office and he-wet teeieh- was brought into the office and he-you resign or- was brought into the office and he you resign or else. he was told, you resign or else. htt— he was told, you resign or else. htt vou— he was told, you resign or else. htt you knew— he was told, you resign or else. but you know what?— he was told, you resign or else. but you know what? to- he was told, you resign or else. but you know what? to be- he was told, you resign or else. but you know what? to be honest , i couldn't give two hoots. i mean, give stuff mean, i couldn't give a stuff about it. i mean, i don't i don't i watched the show years ago was at university. ago and i was at university. i loved it when judy, richard and judy were on. yeah, yeah. and one remember richard

one time i remember richard telling judy. how could you, judy , don't that. you've judy, don't say that. you've told yeah. and i used told everybody. yeah. and i used told everybody. yeah. and i used to their dynamics, but they to love their dynamics, but they used paint used to. i'd rather watch paint dry, with me . with dry, to be honest with me. with you. i'm glad that you know, because itv , because i think ultimately itv, they be regurgitating they seem to be regurgitating they seem to be regurgitating the same old, same old people all the time. i mean, ant and dec, i love them. god bless them. again , yeah, you know, them. but again, yeah, you know, have they not got so have they not got there's so many this many talented people in this country they're going country nana they're going to say about us someday say that about about us someday . okay, not going to . okay, well, i'm not going to cling well, cling on like that. well, we should why you? should hang on. why would you? why— should hang on. why would you? why wetit— should hang on. why would you? why wettt wet. — should hang on. why would you? why would you. why— : wig why would you? why would you. why wouldn't : “t?“g why would you? why would you. why wouldn't you ethe— why would you. why wouldn't you etihe—hte— why would you. why wouldn't you cling—has millions- cling on? he still has millions of cling on? he still has millions 0f—guy- i cling on? he still has millions. et—ttw. we. of people who love the guy. no, no, of people who love the guy. no, helhehetw-e— of people who love the guy. no, no,-nobody's-that- no, but nobody's saying that people love him. it's people don't love him. it's just that that people people don't love him. it's just that you that people people don't love him. it's just that you need that people people don't love him. it's just thatyou need to that people people don't love him. it's just that you need to rejuvenate zile like you need to rejuvenate things. be careful. things. i should be careful. i've out a job i've talked myself out of a job you've been on for too long. yeah, but i tend to yeah, but. no, but i tend to move around anyway. know, move around anyway. you know, like, i think, you know, i do a bit this. do bit of that, bit of this. i do a bit of that, you like a bit you know, i like to have a bit more going on. that's something else about country. it's else about this country. it's like tv shows, like else about this country. it's like-tv shows, like six| like your tv shows, like six eeieetee— episodes in america. there are zeo— episodes in america. there are eee—thew- episodes in america. there arei tee—thew etw episodes in america. there are- zso—thew etw we 250 episodes because they say we wtmt— 250 episodes because they say we wtht it— 250 episodes because they say we wtht it wte— 250 episodes because they say we wtht it itet— 250 episodes because they say we want it was just perfect the way it—ts - want it was just perfect the way it—ie ite- it was. but the truth is, it's tite— it was. but the truth is, it's likelmarriage_ it was. but the truth is, it's likelmarriage .- it was. but the truth is, it's like marriage . it's tv

like a marriage. it's like tv is tite— like a marriage. it's like tv is likelmarriage._ like a marriage. it's like tv is like marriage. just get to like a marriage. you just get to thew—vet- like a marriage. you just get to. know _you .through know the people. you go through bad know the people. you go through htt-,— know the people. you go through htt-, mtwte— know the people. you go through htt-, mtwte t— know the people. you go through bad , maybe a couple of bad times, maybe a couple of memthe— bad times, maybe a couple ofi memthe—wet months, a couple of years. you htte—tht- months, a couple of years. you htte—tht htt- months, a couple of years. you hate _and but you l hate the person and but you etieh—mtwtei stick with them. and maybe thtt-e— stick with them. and maybe that's what's— stick with them. and maybe that's what's lowest in this wett— that's what's lowest in this world-don't- that's what's lowest in thisi world-don't-with world is we don't stick with teete— world is we don't stick with peepieletw— world is we don't stick with people. say, don't know the people. i say, i don't know the guy,— people. i say, i don't know the etw ttt— people. i say, i don't know the etw ttt im— people. i say, i don't know the guy, but i'm against firing a lot guy, but i'm against firing a iet et— guy, but i'm against firing a tet et eeeeie— guy, but i'm against firing a lot of people haven't haven't got— lot of people haven't haven't tet—thihee- lot of people haven't haven't tet—thihee te- lot of people haven't haven't got—things to sayi got such great things to say ttett— got such great things to say ttett him. — got such great things to say about him. let's- got such great things to say about him. iii" about him. let's move on to harry meghan. harry harry and meghan. harry and meghan, what do you think they are? this is some sort of. are? yeah, this is some sort of. you're from america? from you're from america? i'm from new from new york. new york. you're from new york. you'll i. i live right near you'll know i. i live right near where— you'll know i. i live right near where the— you'll know i. i live right near where the police. _thatl where the police. police that ehtee—htwei chase was. can you have some eett— chase was. can you have some tit-weth— chase was. can you have some eett-veth. ee— chase was. can you have some sort-yeah. go on- chase was. can you have some sort-yeah. go on then.- chase was. can you have somei sort-yeah. go on then. talk sort of. yeah. go on then. talk to me. what's like around to me. what's it like around there? get speed? there? can you get a high speed? i didn't apparently i mean, they didn't apparently say yeah. say the words high speed. yeah. that of york that was the mayor of new york who word speed. who used the word high speed. yeah, these two yeah, but you know how these two like to gaslight and allow the wrong to come out? it wrong words to come out? if it was should correct was wrong, they should correct it. so. right. it. they haven't, so. right. well, could be well, i think it could be eeeeitte— well, i think it could be eeeeitte-t- well, i think it could be possible a high well, i think it could be- possible-a high speed possible to have a high speed ehtee— possible to have a high speed ehtee ttt— possible to have a high speed chase, but for— possible to have a high speed chase, but for a— possible to have a high speed chase, but for a very short time possible to have a high speed ch betweenfor a very short time possible to have a high speed ch between for alights, hort time possible to have a high speed ch betweenfor alights, in�*t time in between the lights, in between— in between the lights, in between even between the lights or even even tthhihe— between the lights or even even running—sol between the lights or even even ttmwtw—se | between the lights or even even tthwtw the—eel between the lights or even even runiway the lights so between the lights or even even runiway the lights are so the way the lights are etteeeteet— the way the lights are- staggered,-have kind staggered, you could have kind of staggered, you could have kind et—eheetl of a high speed, high speed ehtee— of a high speed, high speed. ehtee—te chase. i mean, i don't want to say— chase. i mean, i don't want to etw thwthime— chase. i mean, i don't want to say anything bad— chase. i mean, i don't want to say anything bad about these eeeeie— say anything bad about these eeeeie-thew-we- say anything bad about these people they've got their people because they've got their ewe—i-

people because they've got their ewe—i eel people because they've got their tet—i eel people because they've got their own for them. _i so. people because they've got their own for them. i-i so. people because they've got their own for them. i feel i so people because they've got their own for them. i feel i i so people because they've got their own for them. i feel i even so feel for them. i feel i even teet— feel for them. i feel i even teetliieeth— feel for them. i feel i even- feel-megan-because feel for megan because because ehe-e— feel for megan because because ehe—- feel for megan because because ehe— weth- she's a black woman. yeah, right — she's a black woman. yeah, right im— she's a black woman. yeah, right i-m tethe— she's a black woman. yeah, right. i'm going to tell you whtt—it.- right. i'm going to tell you. what—it. she's what has to do with it. she's wteh— what has to do with it. she's thew-wet— what has to do with it. she's black,-you who's- black, unlike you who's beautiful— black, unlike you who's beautiful beautiful and beautiful and beautiful and wteh— beautiful and beautiful and hiteh-we— beautiful and beautiful and black.-we know- beautiful and beautiful and black. we know you're black. yeah, we know you're wteh— black. yeah, we know you're titeh htt— black. yeah, we know you're black, but doesn't look black, but she doesn't look titeh. — black, but she doesn't look black. well,— black, but she doesn't look black. well, that's- black, but she doesn't look black. �*fw�*iz;cc black, but she doesn't look black. g black. well, that's the thing about you don't black, about if you don't look black, then not to people then you're not black to people who look at you. so. exactly. so say black. she's say you're black. she's got to say, say you're black. she's got to etw-me.— say you're black. she's got to etw-me. why? - say you're black. she's got to say,-me. why? why- say you're black. she's got to say,-me. why? why is. say you're black. she's got to say, me. why? why is it say, like me. why? why is it ehe-e— say, like me. why? why is it she's not black? she's mixed. you know something in her mind? her you know something in her mind? her-te— you know something in her mind? her-ie wteh— you know something in her mind? her-is black. that- you know something in her mind? her is black. that makes her mother is black. that makes her her mother is black. that makes hetlhet— her mother is black. that makes hetlhet mimet— her mother is black. that makes her-her mind. that— her mother is black. that makes her her mind. that makes, her in her mind. that makes, i tetiewe— her in her mind. that makes, i believe guessing. believe i'm just guessing. but the— believe i'm just guessing. but eeewehh-— believe i'm just guessing. but eeewehh- . i— believe i'm just guessing. but she-even . i mean,- believe i'm just guessing. but she-even . i mean, like,| she didn't even. i mean, like, if reports be believed, if reports are to be believed, even like even on, say, things like resumes and things that, resumes and things like that, she say she was she she didn't say she was she was going caucasian man. she going with a caucasian man. she wasn't thinking it. but— going with a caucasian man. she wasn't thinking it. but that- wasn't thinking it. but that teeeh-t— wasn't thinking it. but that- doesn't—feeling doesn't mean she wasn't feeling wett— doesn't mean she wasn't feeling wet—te- doesn't mean she wasn't feeling wett—te te- doesn't mean she wasn't feelingi well._to do with well. what's that got to do with the fish anyway? the price of fish anyway? what's that to do with the car that got to do with the car chase she's. it has to do chase that she's. it has to do with — chase that she's. it has to do with -te. — chase that she's. it has to do with _to. . doesn't - chase that she's. it has to do with _to. . doesn't have with it has to. it doesn't have thwthihe— with it has to. it doesn't have thymine-we,- with it has to. it doesn't have anything-no, not- with it has to. it doesn't have anything no, not nothing with it has to. it doesn't have anythiidoes no, not nothing with it has to. it doesn't have anythiidoes it? no, not nothing with it has to. it doesn't have anythiidoes it? no itiot nothing with it has to. it doesn't have anythiidoes it? no it has|othing at all, does it? no it has eemethihe— at all, does it? no it has something to— at all, does it? no it has something to do. it has eemethihe— something to do. it has something just something to do with. she's just iieehth—hte- something to do with. she's just. meghan—has something something to do with. she's just. m(d0 an _has something something to do with. she's just. m(d0 with-has something something to do with. she's just. m(d0 with hen-has something something to do with. she's just m(d0 with her, her draggingiething to do with her, her dragging her mother her who is mother along with her who is basically that she's basically her proof that she's black. yeah, like. black. yeah, proof. it's like. he— black. yeah, proof. it's like. it-e—hhewi black. yeah, proof. it's like. it-e—hmew -l black. yeah, proof. it's like. it's—know . it's it's like you didn't know. it's tite— it's like you didn't know. it's iite me— it's like you didn't know. it's iite ite— it's like you didn't know. it's like me. it's like— it's like you didn't know. it's like me. it's like me wearing a

wttmtihe— like me. it's like me wearing a yarmulke.maybe_ like me. it's like me wearing a yarmulke maybe a jewish star, yarmulke or maybe a jewish star, a yarmulke or maybe a jewish star, tiewieh— yarmulke or maybe a jewish star, tiewieh-mw— yarmulke or maybe a jewish star, a jewish _my chest- yarmulke or maybe a jewish star, a jewish my chest to let a jewish star on my chest to let eeehie— a jewish star on my chest to let people thew— a jewish star on my chest to let people know that— a jewish star on my chest to let people know that i'm black. you knew— people know that i'm black. you thewelehe— people know that i'm black. you know? i she takes _ people know that i'm black. you know? she takes her mother. know? so she takes her mother. she— know? so she takes her mother. she tttee— know? so she takes her mother. she takes - mother. - know? so she takes her mother. she takes mother. i'm she takes her mother. look, i'm wteh— she takes her mother. look, i'm ttteh-hete-e— she takes her mother. look, i'm black.-here'slblack- black. look, here's a black tttet— black. look, here's a black black mother— black. look, here's a black black mother and whatever. so it teeeh-t— black mother and whatever. so it teeeh-t meth— black mother and whatever. so it doesn't mean much. but he is thee— doesn't mean much. but he is ttee tht— doesn't mean much. but he is also and she's— doesn't mean much. but he is also and she's damaged. semethiht— also and she's damaged. something horrible happened to her something horrible happened to he te— something horrible happened to he te t— something horrible happened to her as a child.— something horrible happened to her as a child. she's down. whtt— her as a child. she's down. whtt te— her as a child. she's down. whtt the wet— her as a child. she's down. what do you say?- her as a child. she's down. what do you say? no,- her as a child. she's down. what do you say? no, nothing horrible happened to her. she's obviously like her dad has looked after her really nicely. all is how all the reports you hear is how he obviously not know because because bitterness because there's bitterness between them. well, between the two of them. well, only he sold some only because he sold some stories. why would he? stories. yeah, but why would he? ironic. yeah, why he ironic. yeah, but why would he eett— ironic. yeah, but why would he sell stories?— ironic. yeah, but why would he sell stories? well,— ironic. yeah, but why would he sell stories? well, that wasn't tetttiiw. — sell stories? well, that wasn't tettttiw. he— sell stories? well, that wasn't actually. it; f cizzici: actually. he actually told the full story on gb news a while ago it wasn't quite as it is ago and it wasn't quite as it is as is. but why does she hate as it is. but why does she hate him— as it is. but why does she hate hime-htte— as it is. but why does she hate him?-hate him- as it is. but why does she hate him?-hate him for. him? she must hate him for a ethietitt. — him? she must hate him for a particular. well,— him? she must hate him for al particular. well,-she particular. well, because she thinks he betrayed her. i thinks that he betrayed her. i think. fair. think. but let's be fair. i think. but let's be fair. i think she's more than made up for what for his betrayal, if that's what she a good she thinks. that's a very good teeth.— she thinks. that's a very good heiht. htt— she thinks. that's a very good teimt. htt eth— that's a very good point. but can mention “

the royal family. i know this is met the— the royal family. i know this is met the tight— the royal family. i know this is not the right-to- the royal family. i know this is not the right to say on gb not the right thing to say on gb wewe. — not the right thing to say on gb wewe. _teetteel news. and maybe it's because twe— news. and maybe it's because i-we—eteh- news. and maybe it's because. i-we—eteh-wet i've had american stop me if you think— i've had american stop me if you think im— i've had american stop me if you think i-m tethe— i've had american stop me if you think i'm going too— i've had american stop me if you think i'm going too far, but i etem-t— think i'm going too far, but i teh-t tite— think i'm going too far, but i don't like the— think i'm going too far, but i don't like the royal family. and i don't like the royal family. and i—ihihee— don't like the royal family. and i_prince charles,- i think what prince charles, when— i think what prince charles, when-prince- i think what prince charles, when-prince ,- i think what prince charles, when prince , did to when he was prince, did to httw-e— when he was prince, did to harry's mother,— when he was prince, did to harry's mother, but he didn't do thwthiht— harry's mother, but he didn't do thwthime te— harry's mother, but he didn't do anything to her. _ harry's mother, but he didn't do anything to her. i— harry's mother, but he didn't do anything to her. “ anything to her. i mean, okay, i didn't like that either. but but yeah, so we know he- didn't like that either. but but yeah, so we know he did- yeah, so we know he did eemethihe— yeah, so we know he did something because he hadn't he was something because he hadn't he wte-eemetetw— something because he hadn't he was somebody else. “c15 was saying somebody else. yes. htt— was saying somebody else. yes. htt it— was saying somebody else. yes. htt it wt— was saying somebody else. yes. htt it hie— was saying somebody else. yes. but it was his love,— was saying somebody else. yes. but it was his love, the- was saying somebody else. yes. but it was his love, the love of his doesn't matter. his life. it doesn't matter. but don't think that but i don't think it's that when we—thtt-e- but i don't think it's that when we _that's wrong. we get married that's wrong. when— we get married that's wrong. whet—i-ml we get married that's wrong.- wheh—i-m going when we get married, i'm going to when we get married, i'm going te-wite,— when we get married, i'm going te-wite-wte- to say to my wife, that was wemt — to say to my wife, that was- wrong. _see-anymore. wrong. i can't see you anymore. im— wrong. i can't see you anymore. i-m eett— wrong. i can't see you anymore. i-m eetw. wet— wrong. i can't see you anymore. i-m eetw. wet itet— wrong. i can't see you anymore. i'm sorry. you just you. i'm mttihe— i'm sorry. you just you. i'm making thie— i'm sorry. you just you. i'm making this all— i'm sorry. you just you. i'm making this all up. i don't have a making this all up. i don't have t—htwe— making this all up. i don't have t—htwe t. - making this all up. i don't have t—htwe t. ahwwtw,| a wife. i don't have a. anyway, the.— a wife. i don't have a. anyway, the. ihie— a wife. i don't have a. anyway, the. ihie ie— a wife. i don't have a. anyway, the. this is what— a wife. i don't have a. anyway, the. this is what i'm saying. hem-t— the. this is what i'm saying. tent-me.— the. this is what i'm saying. don't-me. don't- the. this is what i'm saying. don't me. don't me talk don't get me. don't let me talk mweeit— don't get me. don't let me talk myself-trouble— don't get me. don't let me talk myself trouble here, okay? myself into trouble here, okay? get myself into trouble here, okay? tet-with— myself into trouble here, okay? eetlwith it. — myself into trouble here, okay? get-with it. you've- myself into trouble here, okay? get with it. /i:::ic. gitic 05 get on with it. you've got 10s. my get on with it. you've got 10s. my 10s is. is that get on with it. you've got 105. my 105 is. is that prince- get on with it. /i:::ic. gitic 05 mg 05 is that prince harry my 105 is. is that prince harry is my 105 is. is that prince harry ie wett— my 105 is. is that prince harry ie very thew— my 105 is. is that prince harry ie very angry tt— my 105 is. is that prince harry is very angry at his— mg 05 is that prince harry is very angry at his dad and ite— is very angry at his dad and he ee— is very angry at his dad and it's so tragic. _ is very angry at his dad and it's so tragic. it— is very angry at his dad and it's so tragic. it is very titeie — it's so tragic. it is very tragic. when- it's so tragic. it is very tragic. �*vw�* “ ”it; it's so tragic. it is very tragic. �*fti�*“i:;“ ”it; it's so tragic. it is very- tragic. when are you back on? when am i back on what? not? yeah . on i'm on tonight. you can yeah. on i'm on tonight. you can come see me tonight.— / cj“ i'm on tonight. you can come see me tonight. yeah, you can come see me.— come see me tonight. yeah, you can come see me. lewis schaffer . twe— can come see me. lewis schaffer . he get— can come see me. lewis schaffer . he get t— can come see me. lewis schaffer . he get t twe— can come see me. lewis schaffer . i've got a i've got— . i've got a i've got a calendar.— . i've got a i've got a calendar. i- . i've got a i've got a calendar. i didn't show you the

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by £120 a year. now that extra teet— by £120 a year. now that extra eeet eetit— by £120 a year. now that extra cost could be— by £120 a year. now that extra cost could be added to household hitte— cost could be added to household titte hem— cost could be added to household bills from 2025— cost could be added to household bills from 2025 to _ cost could be added to household bills from 2025 to help fund the teweieemeht— bills from 2025 to help fund the development of— bills from 2025 to help fund the development of hydrogen gas ttmiiiee— development of hydrogen gas families will— development of hydrogen gas families will also be contributing to subsidies for ether— contributing to subsidies for ethet teem— contributing to subsidies for other green energy, such as wind ttme — other green energy, such as wind ttme whitet— other green energy, such as wind farms. under provisions in the energy— farms. under provisions in the new energy bill.— farms. under provisions in the new energy bill. as the government _ new energy bill. as the government strives to meet its ttteet— government strives to meet its ttteet et— government strives to meet its ttteet et met— government strives to meet its target of net zero— government strives to meet its target of net zero by 2050. wet, — target of net zero by 2050. weti, teihihe— target of net zero by 2050. well, joining me to discuss is teie— well, joining me to discuss is teie teth— well, joining me to discuss is teie hettw .— well, joining me to discuss is lois perry . she's— well, joining me to discuss is lois perry . she's the director lois perry. she's the director of lois perry. she's the director et ett— lois perry. she's the director et ctt ze— lois perry. she's the director of car 26 and— lois perry. she's the director of car 26 and also meteoros weteiet— of car 26 and also meteoros weteiet im— of car 26 and also meteoros wokeist jim dale. right. i'm going— wokeist jim dale. right. i'm going te— wokeist jim dale. right. i'm going te etttt— wokeist jim dale. right. i'm going to start with you, jim ette,— going to start with you, jim ette, ththh— going to start with you, jim dale, thank you. so talk to me. why— dale, thank you. so talk to me. why te— dale, thank you. so talk to me. why we— dale, thank you. so talk to me. why we tethe— dale, thank you. so talk to me. why are we going to be paying met-e— why are we going to be paying why— why are we going to be paying why ie— why are we going to be paying more? why is there this push for thie— more? why is there this push for thie exttt— more? why is there this push for this extra hundred— more? why is there this push for this extra hundred and £20? we tettiiw— this extra hundred and £20? we tetttiw me— this extra hundred and £20? we usually come program. usually come on this program. we usually come on this program. we-tet— usually come on this program. we-eet t— usually come on this program. we-get a little- usually come on this program. we-get a little bit- usually come on this program. we-get a little bit of. we normally get a little bit of an argument debate an argument going or a debate going. i'll tell going. let's just say i'll tell you, i actually i actually i actually that a actually agree that this is a false step. hydrogen is not the direction of travel. it will only ettee— direction of travel. it will only reduce the- direction of travel. it will only reduce the net- i: ”iiizc iziti“ it will only reduce the net zero co eteteitw— only reduce the net zero co eteteitw by— only reduce the net zero co capacity by about 4. so whilst whitet— capacity by about 4. so whilst whiiet ite— capacity by about 4. so whilst whilst it's useful— capacity by about 4. so whilst whilst it's useful for big ihttettw— whilst it's useful for big industry, it's— whilst it's useful for big industry, it's absolutely right. ami— industry, it's absolutely right. ami i— industry, it's absolutely right. ami i tet-t— industry, it's absolutely right. and i don't often— industry, it's absolutely right. and i don't often agree- industry, it's absolutely right. and i don't often agree with the telegraph, very rarely , but i

telegraph, very rarely, but i think the government is going in the wrong direction with this. they're pushing the wrong barrel. if makes sense. barrel. if that makes sense. hydrogen isn't the answer. it might be for the big industrials . that's where it might be useful. but for households is i don't think so . lois, what do don't think so. lois, what do you— don't think so. lois, what do wet thithe— don't think so. lois, what do you think? yeah— don't think so. lois, what do you think? yeah jim- i:i:::i“ c lois, what do you think? yeah jim and i agree on you think? yeah jim and i agree eh eemethihe— you think? yeah jim and i agree eh eemethihe . — you think? yeah jim and i agree on something . oh,— you think? yeah jim and i agree on something. cj“ ciizzii: you think? yeah jim and i agree on something . cj“ ”ciizzii: “iii?“ you think? yeah jim and i agree on something . icj“ ciizzii: “in?“ so on something. oh, god. yeah. so et— on something. oh, god. yeah. so et thie— on something. oh, god. yeah. so none of this makes— on something. oh, god. yeah. so none of this makes any- on something. 0“ ciizzii: “in?“ so none of this makes any sense whtteeewet— none of this makes any sense whatsoever unless you're tetttitw— whatsoever unless you're actually following the money, teettee— actually following the money, teettee it— actually following the money, because it makes— actually following the money, because it makes a huge amount of because it makes a huge amount et eehee— because it makes a huge amount et te— because it makes a huge amount of sense to people— because it makes a huge amount of sense to people that are teeeiwihe— of sense to people that are receiving subsidies is to do thie— receiving subsidies is to do the. htt— receiving subsidies is to do this. but the— receiving subsidies is to do this. but the amount of energy thtt— this. but the amount of energy thtt wet— this. but the amount of energy that you actually— this. but the amount of energy that you actually get from htmihe— that you actually get from burning hydrogen, from using the tetttt— burning hydrogen, from using the tetttt energy— burning hydrogen, from using the tetttt energy te— burning hydrogen, from using the actual energy is equal to the tmetht— actual energy is equal to the tmetht et— actual energy is equal to the amount of energy it takes to eehtttte— amount of energy it takes to eeptttte the— amount of energy it takes to separate the hydrogen from the wttet— separate the hydrogen from the wttet et— separate the hydrogen from the wttet et ttem — separate the hydrogen from the water or from the _ separate the hydrogen from the water or from the gas . separate the hydrogen from the water or from the gas. but separate the hydrogen from the water or from the gas . but hey, water or from the gas. but hey, eteee— water or from the gas. but hey, eteee whtte— water or from the gas. but hey, guess what? we've _ water or from the gas. but hey, guess what? we've got an amazing thing. — guess what? we've got an amazing thing. hwtteeeh— guess what? we've got an amazing thing. hydrogen rich fuel titettw— thing. hydrogen rich fuel titettw .— thing. hydrogen rich fuel already . it's— thing. hydrogen rich fuel already . it's called gas , which already. it's called gas, which we htwe— already. it's called gas, which we htwe ih— already. it's called gas, which we have in abundance and which we have in abundance and which we ehetit— we have in abundance and which we ehetit te— we have in abundance and which we should be using. and we ehetit— we should be using. and we ehetit te— we should be using. and we should be using— we should be using. and we should be using that until we tmett— should be using that until we can afford or— should be using that until we can afford or we— should be using that until we can afford or we can afford etetttiw— can afford or we can afford etetthtw ew— can afford or we can afford probably now to- can afford or we can afford probably now to build nuclear, whith— probably now to build nuclear, whieh ie— probably now to build nuclear, which is amazing. it's 24 over

seven and take— which is amazing. it's 24 over seven and take last 60 years and ente— seven and take last 60 years and ehte th— seven and take last 60 years and ends up actually— seven and take last 60 years and ends up actually ends up being six ends up actually ends up being eix timee— ends up actually ends up being six times cheaper— ends up actually ends up being six times cheaper than offshore wiht. — six times cheaper than offshore wiht. amt— six times cheaper than offshore wind. and that's— six times cheaper than offshore wind. and that's with all of the etteitiee— wind. and that's with all of the subsidies removed. so the whole hwtteeeh— subsidies removed. so the whole hydrogen thine— subsidies removed. so the whole hydrogen thihe ,— subsidies removed. so the whole hydrogen thing , like all of the hydrogen thing, like all of the tehewttiee— hydrogen thing, like all of the renewables thing is a racket. no,— renewables thing is a racket. we, ite— renewables thing is a racket. he he met. — renewables thing is a racket. no, it's not. it's— renewables thing is a racket. no, it's not. c no, it's not. it's not all of the renewables. it's all hydrogen is one little part of it. i've already said that i tend to agree with you on this. and you know what? i really believe we should be moving away from the climate change issue in terms of whether there is climate change or whether there isn't climate change. no, it's absolutely not. it's because we should be talking about mitigation and safety. so, for example , today we're talking example, today we're talking about this, which is fair enough . absolutely. but look what's happened this week in in italy . happened this week in in italy. look at the devastation that's occurred there , there and the occurred there, there and the deaths that have occurred and the damage that have occurred. and that is a climate change dnven and that is a climate change driven event. so that's where we should be. we can we can talk about mitigation measures as we

are now, all the different ones till the cows come on. we can have a good, good debate and some things will agree on and some things will agree on and some things will agree on and some things we will not. i absolutely love the way that wett— absolutely love the way that yet ette— absolutely love the way that your eite et— absolutely love the way that your side of the— absolutely love the way that your side of the argument uses tittie— your side of the argument uses albie absolutely— your side of the argument uses albie absolutely everything to teete— albie absolutely everything to prove thtt— albie absolutely everything to prove that climate change is tett.— prove that climate change is tett. vet— prove that climate change is real. you know— prove that climate change is real. you know why? it's why thew— real. you know why? it's why they ehtheet— real. you know why? it's why they changed it— real. you know why? it's why they changed it global they changed it from global wttmihe— they changed it from global wttmihe-te- they changed it from global warming to climate warming recently to climate ehtmee— warming recently to climate ehtheelthe— warming recently to climate change. the same thing. change. it's the same thing. ihete-e— change. it's the same thing. there's-warming. change. it's the same thing. there's warming for there's been no warming for methy— there's been no warming for hettiw tem— there's been no warming for nearly ten years. _ there's been no warming for nearly ten years. sorry well, no . tm— nearly ten years. sorry well, no . i-m tethe— nearly ten years. sorry well, no , i'm going to stop there. you said that global warming is the same change. not same as climate change. it's not really, is it? because climate change? sorry let me change? no. okay. sorry let me finish. because climate change. the it the climate could go down. it could or could could be cooler or it could get warmer. could way. warmer. it could go either way. so isn't. global so global warming isn't. global warming-happening- g “g c global warming happening anyway. but warming is happening anyway. but the etetiem— warming is happening anyway. but the problem with— warming is happening anyway. but the problem with climate change is it the problem with climate change ie it hte— the problem with climate change is it has-facets,— the problem with climate change is it has facets, many is it has many facets, many tee— is it has many facets, many tee se— is it has many facets, many tee se we— is it has many facets, many faces. so we saw- is it has many facets, many faces. so we saw one of those in the— faces. so we saw one of those in the winter— faces. so we saw one of those in the winter time— faces. so we saw one of those in the winter time .— faces. so we saw one of those in the winter time . it— faces. so we saw one of those in the wintertime . it doesn't mean the winter time. it doesn't mean eiehti— the winter time. it doesn't mean eiehti-teee— the winter time. it doesn't mean global-does not- the wintertime. it doesn't mean global does not mean the global warming does not mean the meth— global warming does not mean the earth .continues_ global warming does not mean the earth .continues to _ global warming does not mean the earth continues to warm up. earth just continues to warm up. htee— earth just continues to warm up. htee — earth just continues to warm up. htee i— earth just continues to warm up. hang on. i thought— earth just continues to warm up. hang on. i thought-what. earth just continues to warm up. haiafter. i thought-what. earth just continues to warm up. haiafter. i th after-what. earth just continues to warm up. no on we after year after year. no on on average it will— we after year after year. no on on average it will do- we after year after year. no on on average it will do the- no on on average it will do the graph witt— on average it will do the graph wiiilthwttte.— on average it will do the graph will-upwards. but- on average it will do the graph will upwards. but you do get will be upwards. but you do get whtt— will be upwards. but you do get whtt i— will be upwards. but you do get whtt i ethi— will be upwards. but you do get what i call chaos,— will be upwards. but you do get what i call chaos, what we call ehtee— what i call chaos, what we call ehtee|whete— what i call chaos, what we call chaos where climate chaos, where the climate tetttitw— chaos, where the climate actually - itself- chaos, where the climate actually itself up.

chaos, where the climate- actually-itself up. what actually mixes itself up. what weth— actually mixes itself up. what wethe-it— actually mixes itself up. what wethe-it thtt- actually mixes itself up. what you're is that absolutely you're saying is that absolutely every single happens every single thing that happens proves your argument. no, because there's ” fig no, because there's weather no, because there's weather within thtt. — because there's weather within thtt. ihtt-e— because there's weather within that. that's not— because there's weather within that. that's not a— because there's weather within that. f that. that's not a case of that. but you've got to know. you've got look so, for example , now got to look so, for example, now what? look what happened this this wmo , the this this week, the wmo, the world meteorological organisation out and said organisation came out and said 1.5 degrees will surpassed in 1.5 degrees will be surpassed in the next five years. so what? well so what what is your tell lois lois . lois, what if your lois lois. lois, what if your body temperature goes up by 1.5 degrees? how do you feel? maybe my body will self regulate.- ciz;g”i:i;i:i;57’ i:i:::i �*tz;i:i;c7’ maybe my body will self regulate. will met. — my body will self regulate. will met. vet-ii— my body will self regulate. will not. you'll be— my body will self regulate. will not. you'll be in— my body will self regulate. will not. you'll be in bed,- my body will self regulate. will not. /i:::ic. cc “ zit}: not. you'll be in bed, sweats. no, hold on. she has- not. you'll be in bed, sweats. no, hold on. she has got- no, hold on. she has got a teimt— no, hold on. she has got a teimt. ihe— no, hold on. she has got a point. the we— no, hold on. she has got a point. the we have what we call. wett— point. the we have what we call. wet, tet— point. the we have what we call. well, let-finish.— point. the we have what we call. well, let finish. homeostasis point. the we have what we call. well, is finish. homeostasis point. the we have what we call. well, is where 1ish. homeostasis point. the we have what we call. well, is where the. homeostasis point. the we have what we call. well, is where the body eostasis which is where the body teettttee— which is where the body regulates itself. it comes back hte— regulates itself. it comes back the where— regulates itself. it comes back into where should be. what into where it should be. what mthee— into where it should be. what mthee wet— into where it should be. what makes you think— into where it should be. what makes you think that the planet wem-t— makes you think that the planet wem-t htwe— makes you think that the planet won't have other— makes you think that the planet won't have other mechanisms that will won't have other mechanisms that wit-it— won't have other mechanisms that wit-it hteh— won't have other mechanisms that wit-it ttet te— won't have other mechanisms that will it back to where it will get it back to where it teete— will get it back to where it heete te— will get it back to where it needs to be _ will get it back to where it needs to be simply because and weth— needs to be simply because and weth, eimetw— needs to be simply because and yeah, simply because i know that in t— yeah, simply because i know that in t tet— yeah, simply because i know that in t tet et— yeah, simply because i know that in t tet et the— yeah, simply because i know that in a lot of the projections they htweh-t— in a lot of the projections they haven't counted,— in a lot of the projections they haven't counted, taken that on tettt— haven't counted, taken that on tettt eimeiw— haven't counted, taken that on board simply because they see eett— board simply because they see eett et— board simply because they see eett et thie— board simply because they see sort of this what— board simply because they see sort of this what we've got at the— sort of this what we've got at the memet—

sort of this what we've got at the moment is— sort of this what we've got at the moment is huge acceleration. ihtt-e— the moment is huge acceleration. ihtt-e the— the moment is huge acceleration. that's the problem.— the moment is huge acceleration. that's the problem. it's— the moment is huge acceleration. that's the problem. it's the- that's the problem. it's the speed of change, which not everybody will look. lois, do you do you believe that climate change is happening irrespective of whether it's man made? climate change is all the time. i-m — climate change is all the time. i-m epeheetihe— climate change is all the time. i'm sponsoring an— climate change is all the time. i'm sponsoring an event tonight at i'm sponsoring an event tonight tt ieiw— i'm sponsoring an event tonight tt toby young— i'm sponsoring an event tonight at toby young event, and one of the-thtt— at toby young event, and one of the-thtt wehe— at toby young event, and one of the that we're showcasing the things that we're showcasing is the things that we're showcasing ie hoo— the things that we're showcasing ie izoo eithe— the things that we're showcasing is 1200 signs, lists— the things that we're showcasing is 1200 signs, lists who signed the ctihteh— is 1200 signs, lists who signed the clinton declaration saying thew— the clinton declaration saying they etem-t— the clinton declaration saying they don't agree— the clinton declaration saying they don't agree with you. and they don't agree with you. and the tee— they don't agree with you. and the person that— they don't agree with you. and the person that actually did thie—wetetl this declaration is a nobel winning— this declaration is a nobel winning prize— this declaration is a nobel winning prize prize winning . winning prize prize winning. wett— winning prize prize winning. wet, tet— winning prize prize winning. well, for your— winning prize prize winning. well, for your to have a nobel prize — well, for your to have a nobel prize i— well, for your to have a nobel prize. i don't— well, for your to have a nobel prize. i don't have- well, for your to have a nobel prize. i don't have a- well, for your to have a nobel prize. c \ prize. i don't have a nobel prize. i don't have a nobel prize myself. do you? you don't. but if you're going to if you're going to throw 1200 scientists at me , i will throw probably at me, i will throw probably 30,000, 40,000 paid off. you know , why are they paid off? and know, why are they paid off? and the and the oily lot or not? no, hang on. hang on. can you can you let hang on. hang on. can you can wet tet him — hang on. hang on. can you can you let him finish— “fi'g a“g can you can you let him finish because he's counteracting. _ you let him finish because he's counteracting. this- you let him finish because he's counteracting. “ counteracting. this is all one sided. know, you look at the sided. you know, you look at the fossil fuel industry and not all of to change of it they're trying to change make absolutely clear. some make that absolutely clear. some some not. some come out of some are not. some come out of tuftons street, 55 tufton street, who who feed the

information on to i'm not saying to people like yourself, many of them may be you see them all over twitter. you it's a diatribe of information . i'm diatribe of information. i'm trying to get to a point, lois, where we can start to agree not on whether you you'll never agree with a climate change is happening in terms of the manmade side things. but manmade side of things. but where we should be going, we're all favour of green and all in favour of green and safety and an environment that's clean and not polluted . is clean and not polluted. is anybody against that? i totally agree well anybody against that? i totally agree-well done- anybody against that? i totally agree _well done . l anybody against that? i totally agree well done . but i agree with you. well done. but i think— agree with you. well done. but i think weth— agree with you. well done. but i think you're you're— agree with you. well done. but i think you're you're conflating two things really, which two things really, because which is polluted river. will is polluted river. i will speak and won't interrupt me and and you won't interrupt me and ask me question. do. ask me the question. please do. i'm speaking. that's very nice of be doing the of you. okay i'll be doing the speaking be all speaking and i'll be doing all of side things. so of that side of things. so you're conflating two things in my . one is the my view. one of them is the environment. example , environment. so for example, people throwing the people throwing plastic in the rivers. thing. but rivers. that's one thing. but then thing is climate then the other thing is climate change, something change, which is something different are whilst different. these two are whilst they impact each they have an impact on each other, about other, one is about environmental with environmental pollution with regards like plastic regards to things like plastic in and things like in the oceans and things like that other the

that with the other one is the actual climate. i think you're right — actual climate. i think you're right ihie— actual climate. i think you're right. this sisters,— actual climate. i think you're right. this sisters, let- f itc i think you're right. this sisters, let put right. this sisters, let me put it thtt— right. this sisters, let me put it thtt wtw— right. this sisters, let me put it that way, it's— right. this sisters, let me put it that way, it's the environment sisters. it that way, it's the - environment sisters. yeah, thew-te— environment sisters. yeah, theyhethewhe— environment sisters. yeah, they're they're not same they're they're not the same thing. much thing. okay. thank you very much , lois perry. thank you. it was thing. okay. thank you very much , pleasure l. thank you. it was thing. okay. thank you very much , pleasure to hank you. it was thing. okay. thank you very much , pleasure to talk you. it was thing. okay. thank you very much , pleasure to talk toyu. it was thing. okay. thank you very much , pleasure to talk to you. was thing. okay. thank you very much , pleasure to talk to you. stay a pleasure to talk to you. stay right is gb news on right there. this is gb news on tv, radio. tv, online and on digital radio. now, discussing phillip now, we were discussing phillip schofield because the big news, just to remind you that he will be stepping down from this morning effect. morning with immediate effect. i've is what a i've always this is what a statement, he said. i've always been proud to cover. fascinating stories on this morning, but recently, morning recently, this morning itself has throughout has become the story throughout my in tv, including the my career in tv, including the very last few days. very difficult last few days. i have done my best to be have always done my best to be honourable and kind . i honourable and kind. i understand that itv have decided the current situation go the current situation can't go on and i want to do what i can to protect the show that i love. so i've agreed step from so i've agreed to step down from this immediate this morning with immediate effect the hope the show effect in the hope that the show can bright can move forward to a bright future . i'd to thank future. i'd like to thank everyone has supported everyone who has supported me, especially this morning's amazing , and i'll see amazing viewers, and i'll see you for the soap awards next you all for the soap awards next month . might you're with me? i'm

month. might you're with me? i'm nana akua. this is gb news on tv, online and on digital radio . coming up, it's the flood guy . simon crowther will be joining me live in studio discuss me live in the studio to discuss all things water. the supplies are ready spend . the supplies are ready to spend. the supplies are ready to spend. the supplies are ready to spend. the supplies are ready to spend 10 billion on tackling spills. but it's tackling sewage spills. but it's going come from your pocket. going to come from your pocket. is that fair? what do you think ? is that fair? what do you think .7 after latest .7 after the latest news headunes. .7 after the latest news headlines. good .7 after the latest news headlines . good afternoon. i'm headlines. good afternoon. i'm hethtmw— headlines. good afternoon. i'm hethtmw iteew— headlines. good afternoon. i'm bethany elsey with— : good afternoon. i'm bethany elsey with your top etetiee— bethany elsey with your top stories from _ bethany elsey with your top stories from the— bethany elsey with your top stories from the gb newsroom at httt— stories from the gb newsroom at httt htet— stories from the gb newsroom at httt etet hee,— stories from the gb newsroom at half past three, phillip schofield _ half past three, phillip schofield has announced he's eteppime— schofield has announced he's eteepime tewm— schofield has announced he's stepping down from itv's ttteehie— stepping down from itv's flagship morning show this memthe— flagship morning show this morning with— flagship morning show this morning with immediate effect thet— morning with immediate effect after co—hosting_ morning with immediate effect after co—hosting the program for thtm— after co—hosting the program for thtm twe— after co—hosting the program for more than two decades, itv announced he— more than two decades, itv announced he won't be returning with— announced he won't be returning with thursday's— announced he won't be returning with thursday's show being his itet— with thursday's show being his itet em— with thursday's show being his last on social— with thursday's show being his last on social media. mr sehetieit— last on social media. mr schofield said- last on social media. mr schofield said the current eittttiem— schofield said the current situation can't— schofield said the current situation can't go on and that he wtmtet— situation can't go on and that he wtmtet te— situation can't go on and that he wanted to protect the show he iewet. — he wanted to protect the show he iewet. ite— he wanted to protect the show he loved. it's after— he wanted to protect the show he loved. it's after his— he wanted to protect the show he loved. it's after his brother iimethw— loved. it's after his brother timothy schofield was jailed for 12 timothy schofield was jailed for it wette— timothy schofield was jailed for it wette thet— timothy schofield was jailed for 12 years after being convicted

of 12 years after being convicted et ehiit— 12 years after being convicted et ehiit ex— 12 years after being convicted of child sex offences yesterday , wetit — of child sex offences yesterday , world leaders— of child sex offences yesterday , world leaders have welcomed thttime-e— , world leaders have welcomed ukraine's president to the g7 etmmit— ukraine's president to the g7 etmmit im— ukraine's president to the g7 summit in japan— ukraine's president to the g7 summit in japan . c: summit in japan. good to see wet.— summit in japan. good to see wet. hew— summit in japan. good to see you. how are you? yeah, summit in japan. c: at; :::ic.7 yeah, i'm all you. how are you? yeah, i'm all agh— you. how are you? yeah, i'm all right thtmhe. — you. how are you? yeah, i'm all right, thanks. hi,— you. how are you? yeah, i'm all right, thanks. hi, guys.- right, thanks. hi, guys. vladimir zelenskyy met with prime minister rishi sunak , who prime minister rishi sunak, who reiterated the uk's ongoing king support for the country in its fight against russia. he also met with french— �*" g“c g t he also met with french president immtmtet— met with french president emmanuel macron , who described emmanuel macron, who described his emmanuel macron, who described hie hteeemee— emmanuel macron, who described hie eteeemee im— emmanuel macron, who described his presence in japan as a game ehtmeet.— his presence in japan as a game ehtmtet. it— his presence in japan as a game ehtmeet. it ette— his presence in japan as a game changer. it says the white house teetewet— changer. it says the white house teetewet eithe— changer. it says the white house approved plans to _ changer. it says the white house approved plans to provide f—16 tighter— approved plans to provide f—16 tighter hete— approved plans to provide f—16 tighter iete te— approved plans to provide f—16 fighter jets to ukraine approved plans to provide f—16 fighterjets to ukraine and to fighter jets to ukraine and to tith— fighter jets to ukraine and to tttim ite— fighter jets to ukraine and to train its pilots— fighter jets to ukraine and to train its pilots .— fighter jets to ukraine and to train its pilots . president train its pilots. president zeiemehww— train its pilots. president zelenskyy said the move is a mtiet— zelenskyy said the move is a mtie heeet— zelenskyy said the move is a major boost to— zelenskyy said the move is a major boost to kyivs air power , major boost to kyivs air power, tett— major boost to kyivs air power, ttt itteeit — major boost to kyivs air power, but russia says— major boost to kyivs air power, but russia says it— major boost to kyivs air power, but russia says it carries eeteeett— but russia says it carries colossal risks— but russia says it carries colossal risks for the west . colossal risks for the west. iietmwhiie,— colossal risks for the west. meanwhile, the _ colossal risks for the west. meanwhile, the head of russia's wtehe— meanwhile, the head of russia's wagner mercenary— meanwhile, the head of russia's wagner mercenary group is eitimimt— wagner mercenary group is claiming full— wagner mercenary group is claiming full control of the teemet— claiming full control of the eastern ukrainian city of htthmtt— eastern ukrainian city of bakhmut. it's- eastern ukrainian city of bakhmut. it's been the focus of the iemteet— bakhmut. it's been the focus of the longest and— bakhmut. it's been the focus of the longest and bloodiest battle of the longest and bloodiest battle et the— the longest and bloodiest battle et the wt.— the longest and bloodiest battle of the war. ukraine's deputy tetemee— of the war. ukraine's deputy defence minister says the eittttiem— defence minister says the situation is— defence minister says the situation is critical, but temiee— situation is critical, but denies the— situation is critical, but denies the city has fallen. the

tettet— denies the city has fallen. the iettet et— denies the city has fallen. the leader of the _ denies the city has fallen. the leader of the group, which the uk leader of the group, which the tit hithe— leader of the group, which the tx tithe te— leader of the group, which the uk plans to declare as a tettetiet— uk plans to declare as a terrorist organisation , says its terrorist organisation, says its teteee— terrorist organisation, says its teteee witt— terrorist organisation, says its forces will withdraw next week forces will withdraw next week tet teet— forces will withdraw next week tet teet tmt — forces will withdraw next week for rest and retraining and eetmtime— for rest and retraining and eetmtimt ie— for rest and retraining and counting is continuing in the teeth— counting is continuing in the local elections— counting is continuing in the local elections in northern iteitmt. — local elections in northern ireland. sinn— local elections in northern ireland. sinn fein has made etteme— ireland. sinn fein has made etteme ethe— ireland. sinn fein has made strong gains in— ireland. sinn fein has made strong gains in is on course to heme— strong gains in is on course to teee the— strong gains in is on course to become the largest party in het— become the largest party in local government, with 128 councillors— local government, with 128 councillors elected. so far. the twi— councillors elected. so far. the twit etmemtiw— councillors elected. so far. the dup currently has— councillors elected. so far. the dup currently has 111 and the attitmee— dup currently has 111 and the alliance party— dup currently has 111 and the alliance party has 53. you're up to alliance party has 53. you're up te titte— alliance party has 53. you're up te ttte em— alliance party has 53. you're up te ttte em iv— alliance party has 53. you're up to date on tv online dab plus the— to date on tv online dab plus tttie tmt— to date on tv online dab plus tttie tmt em— to date on tv online dab plus radio and on tune— to date on tv online dab plus radio and on tune in this is. gb news. good newe- good afternoon newe— good afternoon . this is wete.— good afternoon . this is gb newe— good afternoon . this is gb news good afternoon. this is gb news on tv online and on digital radio. stay tuned. we'll have an witkam. we'll be discussing in political spotlight. the flood guy is on the way.

and place your vote. wouldn't it be fun if we beat the establishment . hello welcome establishment. hello welcome back. it's fast welcome back. it's fast approaching. 39 mimttee— back. it's fast approaching. 39 minutes after— back. it's fast approaching. 39 minutes after 3:00. this is gb wewe. — minutes after 3:00. this is gb wewe. we— minutes after 3:00. this is gb wewe. we te— minutes after 3:00. this is gb news. we are the— minutes after 3:00. this is gb news. we are the people's ehtmmei.— news. we are the people's channel. i'm— news. we are the people's channel. i'm nana akua now, ieimime— channel. i'm nana akua now, joining me— channel. i'm nana akua now, joining me mew— channel. i'm nana akua now, joining me now because we're tieeteeime— joining me now because we're tieeteeime thie— joining me now because we're discussing this whole debacle with — discussing this whole debacle with ihiiiit— discussing this whole debacle with phillip schofield is a ehewtiz— with phillip schofield is a showbiz journalist . sarah showbiz journalist. sarah itetetteem— showbiz journalist. sarah itetetteem .— showbiz journalist. sarah robertson . sarah, thank you very robertson. sarah, thank you very mteh— robertson. sarah, thank you very mteh tet— robertson. sarah, thank you very much for joining— robertson. sarah, thank you very much forjoining us. now, of course, phillip— much forjoining us. now, of course, phillip schofield will be course, phillip schofield will te etettime— course, phillip schofield will be stepping down from itv this morning-— be stepping down from itv this morning- holly— be stepping down from itv this morning. holly willoughby said that morning. holly willoughby said thtt ite— morning. holly willoughby said that it's been— morning. holly willoughby said that it's been over 13 great wee— that it's been over 13 great wetee—thie- that it's been over 13 great. years,_this morning years, presenting this morning with— years, presenting this morning with ihitiit— years, presenting this morning with phillip. and— years, presenting this morning with phillip. and i want to make this with phillip. and i want to make thie ettetttmitw— with phillip. and i want to make this opportunity to _ with phillip. and i want to make this opportunity to thank him for-knowledge- this opportunity to thank him for-knowledge ,- this opportunity to thank him for knowledge , his for all his knowledge, his exetieee— for all his knowledge, his experience humour. for all his knowledge, his- experience-humour. the experience and his humour. the eett— experience and his humour. the eett wem-t— experience and his humour. the sofa won't feel— experience and his humour. the sofa won't feel same without sofa won't feel the same without him — sofa won't feel the same without him .— sofa won't feel the same without him . hmm. — sofa won't feel the same without him. hmm. kevin— sofa won't feel the same without him. hmm. kevin managing him. hmm. kevin lygo, managing titeetet— him. hmm. kevin lygo, managing titeetet et— him. hmm. kevin lygo, managing director of itv— him. hmm. kevin lygo, managing director of itv media and entertainment, that phillip entertainment, said that phillip is entertainment, said that phillip ie htmte— entertainment, said that phillip is hands down— entertainment, said that phillip is hands down one of the best ttett— is hands down one of the best broad casters— is hands down one of the best broad casters of— is hands down one of the best broad casters of his generation tmt— broad casters of his generation tmt we— broad casters of his generation tmt we thtmh— broad casters of his generation and we thank him for his two teettee— and we thank him for his two decades worth— and we thank him for his two decades worth of— and we thank him for his two decades worth of absolutely tettitie— decades worth of absolutely terrific television. under this

memthe— terrific television. under this morning eett— terrific television. under this morning sofa obe right. let's go to morning sofa obe right. let's go te ett— morning sofa obe right. let's go te eteete. — morning sofa obe right. let's go to our guests. where is where is steth— to our guests. where is where is sttth e— to our guests. where is where is sttth e steth— to our guests. where is where is sarah .7 sarah is— to our guests. where is where is sarah .7 sarah is joining us now. sarah? sarah is joining us now. tethe— sarah? sarah is joining us now. heite. hi— sarah? sarah is joining us now. hello. hi, nana— sarah? sarah is joining us now. hello. hi, nana. _ sarah? sarah is joining us now. hello. hi, nana . sarah? sarah is joining us now. hello. hi, nana. i: sarah? sarah is joining us now. hello. hi, nana . i: hello. hi, nana. i'm afraid you can't see me, but you should be able to hear me. i think i can. we can hear you loud and clear. steth— we can hear you loud and clear. sttth new,— we can hear you loud and clear. sarah now, the— we can hear you loud and clear. sarah now, the thing is, i mean, thie— sarah now, the thing is, i mean, thielt— sarah now, the thing is, i mean, thielt big— sarah now, the thing is, i mean, thielt tie tett— sarah now, the thing is, i mean, this-a big deal for— sarah now, the thing is, i mean, this a big deal for itv. sarah now, the thing is, i mean, this a big deal for itv . do this is a big deal for itv. do you— this is a big deal for itv. do wet thimh— this is a big deal for itv. do wet thimt he— this is a big deal for itv. do you think he jumped before he ttehet— you think he jumped before he ttehet e — you think he jumped before he was pushed .7 �*fxi�*izi;cc was pushed? well, this is the question, nana that you've asked. yes. the situation had become untenable , really. and as become untenable, really. and as philip said himself in the statement, he said this morning had become the story. and when the tteeemtet— had become the story. and when the presenter becomes- “at: f and when the presenter becomes the story tmt— the presenter becomes the story tmt tthee— the presenter becomes the story and takes over— the presenter becomes the story and takes over from the show and the wiewete— and takes over from the show and the viewers lose— and takes over from the show and the viewers lose faith in you, you— the viewers lose faith in you, yet tetiiw— the viewers lose faith in you, you really don't— the viewers lose faith in you, you really don't have a future on you really don't have a future em em the— you really don't have a future on on the sofa— you really don't have a future on on the sofa .— you really don't have a future on on the sofa . so the situation on on the sofa. so the situation htt— on on the sofa. so the situation htt teeee— on on the sofa. so the situation had become untenable . and it was had become untenable. and it was a had become untenable. and it was tet et— had become untenable. and it was tet et tit— had become untenable. and it was a case of all week,— had become untenable. and it was a case of all week, all of the meth— a case of all week, all of the metit w-wee— a case of all week, all of the media we've been- a case of all week, all of the media we've been waiting and wemteeime— media we've been waiting and wondering, we've— media we've been waiting and wondering, we've been talking ttett— wondering, we've been talking ttett it— wondering, we've been talking about it non—stop. will he walk or about it non—stop. will he walk et witt— about it non—stop. will he walk et with he— about it non—stop. will he walk et with he te— about it non—stop. will he walk or will he be pushed .7 and we've or will he be pushed? and we've tettw— or will he be pushed? and we've tettw hee— or will he be pushed? and we've seen today he's decided to walk. but seen today he's decided to walk. htt i— seen today he's decided to walk. htt i think— seen today he's decided to walk. but i think it's— seen today he's decided to walk. but i think it's been with a

ttett— but i think it's been with a get tit— but i think it's been with a great big almighty push. he does not great big almighty push. he does met htwe— great big almighty push. he does met htwe mew— great big almighty push. he does not have now the— great big almighty push. he does not have now the backing or etttett— not have now the backing or etttett et— not have now the backing or support of kevin— not have now the backing or support of kevin lygo. he set himeeit— support of kevin lygo. he set himeett im— support of kevin lygo. he set himself in this— support of kevin lygo. he set himself in this statement . itv himself in this statement. itv hte— himself in this statement. itv hte teeitet— himself in this statement. itv has decided the— himself in this statement. itv has decided the current eittttiem— has decided the current situation can't go on. so that in situation can't go on. so that im iteett— situation can't go on. so that in itself tells— situation can't go on. so that in itself tells you _ situation can't go on. so that in itself tells you everything you— in itself tells you everything wet meet— in itself tells you everything wet meet te— in itself tells you everything you need to know. and he says ttett— you need to know. and he says about protecting— you need to know. and he says about protecting the show and theee— about protecting the show and theee thtt— about protecting the show and those that he— about protecting the show and those that he loves, which is whieh— those that he loves, which is whieh ie— those that he loves, which is which is holly— those that he loves, which is which is holly willoughby, who's teem— which is holly willoughby, who's teem hie— which is holly willoughby, who's been his colleague . so he said been his colleague. so he said the ttmettee— been his colleague. so he said the language he— been his colleague. so he said the language he used is to agreed— the language he used is to tweet-etet— the language he used is to agreed step down. he's saying agreed to step down. he's saying hee— agreed to step down. he's saying we etettime— agreed to step down. he's saying he's stepping down with immediate— he's stepping down with immediate effect. but there's teem— immediate effect. but there's teem ee— immediate effect. but there's been so much— immediate effect. but there's been so much tension behind the scenes and plotting and engineering— scenes and plotting and engineering and will he, won't hee— engineering and will he, won't hee amt— engineering and will he, won't hee amt ite— engineering and will he, won't he? and it's obviously been told to he? and it's obviously been told te hm,— he? and it's obviously been told te hm, teet— he? and it's obviously been told te hm, teeh ,— he? and it's obviously been told to him, look , we— he? and it's obviously been told to him, look , we can't go on to him, look, we can't go on tite— to him, look, we can't go on the thie— to him, look, we can't go on like this anymore- to him, look, we can't go on like this anymore . it's become like this anymore. it's become tmtemttte— like this anymore. it's become untenable. something has to give and untenable. something has to give tmt eet— untenable. something has to give tmt tet te— untenable. something has to give and we've got to save the show. so and we've got to save the show. se hee— and we've got to save the show. se me htt— and we've got to save the show. se me htt te— and we've got to save the show. so he's had to go.— and we've got to save the show. so he's had to go. he's had no eheiee— so he's had to go. he's had no eheiee. he— so he's had to go. he's had no choice. he couldn't— so he's had to go. he's had no choice. he couldn't carry on. it temimte— choice. he couldn't carry on. it temimte — choice. he couldn't carry on. it reminds me. i— choice. he couldn't carry on. it reminds me. i mean- choice. he couldn't carry on. it reminds me, choice. he couldn't carry on. it reminds me. cc reminds me. i mean, i'll be honest with you, sir, i'm quite pleased to see the back of him. i mean , yes, i know you're not i mean, yes, i know you're not a fan . there's a lot of people who

fan. there's a lot of people who aren't of his. sorry, nana aren't fans of his. sorry, nana inn. — aren't fans of his. sorry, nana will. you just thought he would gone after qg8 if that's his reasoning that, you know, he'd become story because he was become the story because he was the then they both shut the story then they both shut up. they both shut up. they got twtw— up. they both shut up. they got away with it. and. and you know, he's hung on and he's hung on and he's hung on. and then this has happened and we've obviously seen the court case yesterday. his brother was jailed for 11 years. if i remember that correctly. and it just the whole thing has just looked really tawdry and murky this week . and tawdry and murky this week. and it's dragging down the show . and it's dragging down the show. and when you become bigger than the show itself, you can't you can't stay on it. well, listen, sarah , thank you very much for that. it's good to hear your your thetthte— it's good to hear your your thoughts-and- it's good to hear your your thoughts and what it's good to hear your your- thoughts-and what you thoughts on that and what you thimh-e— thoughts on that and what you thimh-e-eeimt— thoughts on that and what you think's-going on.- thoughts on that and what you think's going on. let's think's been going on. let's htwe— think's been going on. let's htwe-with— think's been going on. let's have with rebecca zahawi. think's been going on. let's have also with rebecca zahawi. think's been going on. let's have also she's rebecca zahawi. think's been going on. let's have also she's a ebecca zahawi. think's been going on. let's have also she's a showbiz�*ahawi. she's also she's a showbiz extett— she's also she's a showbiz extett te— she's also she's a showbiz expert as well. _ she's also she's a showbiz expert as well. she'll be able to expert as well. she'll be able te ttth— expert as well. she'll be able te ttit te— expert as well. she'll be able te ttit te te— expert as well. she'll be able to talk to us about this. iteteeet— to talk to us about this. iteteeet i— to talk to us about this. rebecca i mean, i've been honest ttett— rebecca i mean, i've been honest ttett-eithe— rebecca i mean, i've been honest ttett-ttite-te- about it. i'm quite glad to see the— about it. i'm quite glad to see the-et— about it. i'm quite glad to see the-eh him.— about it. i'm quite glad to see the-of him.|think- about it. i'm quite glad to see the of him. think they've the back of him. i think they've teem— the back of him. i think they've teem-eett— the back of him. i think they've been-sofa for— the back of him. i think they've been _sofa for way- the back of him. i think they've been sofa for way too been on the sofa for way too tene— been on the sofa for way too tent-ttet. - been on the sofa for way too tent-ttet. he- been on the sofa for way too. long-dust. he should long gathering dust. he should htwe— long gathering dust. he should htwe eeme.— long gathering dust. he should have gone. should both have gone. they should have both

eeme—.— have gone. they should have both eeme—. whtt-e- have gone. they should have both gone_. what's your- gone after gates. what's your the— gone after gates. what's your tthelit— gone after gates. what's your tthelit e— gone after gates. what's your tthelit e tm— gone after gates. what's your take it? i'm really gone after gates. what's your take it .7 i'm really actually take on it? i'm really actually ettttieet— take on it? i'm really actually surprised that— take on it? i'm really actually surprised that philip has come to surprised that philip has come te thie— surprised that philip has come te thie tmt— surprised that philip has come to this and made— surprised that philip has come to this and made this decision tmt— to this and made this decision tmt holly's— to this and made this decision and holly's statement actually ette— and holly's statement actually etwe ttite— and holly's statement actually etwe ttite t— and holly's statement actually says quite a lot. _ and holly's statement actually says quite a lot. c says quite a lot. she hasn't talked about their friendship. she's just basically said thank you knowledge his you for his knowledge, his experience and humour. she experience and his humour. she hasn't reference hasn't really drawn reference to, hasn't really drawn reference to, , hasn't really drawn reference to, , the many years to, you know, the many years they together. the they worked together. the relationship they had. and it's interesting philip interesting because philip schofield the golden boy of schofield was the golden boy of itv. can't see how he could itv. i can't see how he could have made this decision himself. you know , as as we just you know, as as we just mentioned, you know, the news yesterday with his brother being sentenced for child sex offences and the fact that what came out of court case that philip of the court case is that philip was aware and it's was aware of it. and it's interesting that, you know, this has all been very much glossed over really clever over and it's really clever pr that was on this that the focus was on this tension and phil. that the focus was on this tensreally, and phil. that the focus was on this tensreally, think and phil. that the focus was on this tensreally, think the and phil. that the focus was on this tensreally, think the real phil. but really, i think the real story here is that he knew what his was and just story here is that he knew what his him was and just story here is that he knew what his him to was and just story here is that he knew what his him to stop. and just story here is that he knew what his him to stop. and and just story here is that he knew what his him to stop. and ardidn't told him to stop. and it didn't really seem like he did anything else of prevent that. else to sort of prevent that. i think that's the real shocking part in part of this story. but in showbiz, you know, we like to part of this story. but in shotpresentingnow, we like to part of this story. but in shotpresenting juries.e like to part of this story. but in shotpresenting juries.e liilike part of this story. but in sh see asenting juries. e liilike part of this story. but in sh see tension. juries.e liilike part of this story. but in sh see tension. iiries.e liilike

part of this story. but in sh see tension. i think liilike to see tension. i think it's interesting that for the first time, you know, are actually time, you know, itv are actually stepping it seems to be stepping up. and it seems to be supporting holly, because what's happened itv, happened in the past with itv, when look someone like when you look at someone like ant much ant mcpartlin, he was very much supported when he was supported by itv when he was going through his issues with prescription painkillers. you know, he stepped aside from i'm a celebrity. whereas when you look at what happened with caroline was caroline flack when she was going through, know, court going through, you know, a court case, itv, know, suspended case, itv, you know, suspended her had to step down. so her and she had to step down. so it's interesting that, you know, suddenly come suddenly this case has come about. really sort suddenly this case has come ab(you really sort suddenly this case has come ab(you know really sort suddenly this case has come ab(you know , really sort suddenly this case has come ab(you know , within'eally sort suddenly this case has come ab(you know , within'ealhours, of, you know, within 24 hours, he's on. and it'll be he's gone on. and it'll be interesting to see who , you interesting to see who, you know, steps up. you know, know, who steps up. you know, there are reports this morning about hammond about alison hammond sitting there holly willoughby. there with holly willoughby. but there with holly willoughby. but the is, will, the interesting thing is, will, will, holly , will you think will, holly, will you think there's lots of criticism around holly saying that she should go as well? i think they should teth— as well? i think they should teth tie. — as well? i think they should teth tie. i— as well? i think they should both go. i mean,— 7 i think they should both go. i mean, she should go as both go. i mean, she should go te-ttt— both go. i mean, she should go te-ttt theee— both go. i mean, she should go as-but there-that- as well. but there was that whete— as well. but there was that wheie -with- as well. but there was that whole-with his. as well. but there was that whole with his with as well. but there was that- whole-with his with his whole debacle with his with his wife— whole debacle with his with his wife-you— whole debacle with his with his wife-you know- whole debacle with his with his wife-you know ,- whole debacle with his with his wife you know , came out wife when he, you know, came out as being— wife when he, you know, came out as being gay.— wife when he, you know, came out as being gay. ana— wife when he, you know, came out as being gay. ana .— wife when he, you know, came out as being gay. and i mean, frankly,— as being gay. and i mean, frankly,-been- as being gay. and i mean, frankly, been cheating on frankly, he'd been cheating on his frankly, he'd been cheating on has—i— frankly, he'd been cheating oni his—a-n-s his wife, you know, i mean, it's mks—gas- his wife, you know, i mean, it's like—got behind. like and everyone got behind him and—as— like and everyone got behind him and—as fa— like and everyone got behind him and—as fa as- like and everyone got behind him and—as far as we- and it was well, as far as we know,—

and it was well, as far as we know-as— and it was well, as far as we know-as fa- and it was well, as far as we know,-as far as- and it was well, as far as we know,-as far as we. and it was well, as far as we know, as far as we know know, this is as far as we know that— know, this is as far as we know that as— know, this is as far as we know that same— know, this is as far as we know that as-as as— know, this is as far as we know that he-he he came- know, this is as far as we know that he he he came out as that he was he he came out as gay— that he was he he came out as gay-he's— that he was he he came out as gay-he's married. - that he was he he came out as gay he's married. so that gay and he's married. so that shat— gay and he's married. so that means that if— gay and he's married. so that means that if you're gay and you-as— means that if you're gay and yams-ana- means that if you're gay and. you're-and-come you're married and you've come out you're married and you've come oat-a,— you're married and you've come oat-as-asaay- out with it, then clearly share-s— there's, you know, you've realised— there's, you know, you've. realised—just realised that. and that's just not— realised that. and that's just nos—svsayaasi not fair, is it.7 and everyone sas— not fair, is it.7 and everyone sat-behind- not fair, is it.7 and everyone sort-behind him - not fair, is it.7 and everyone sort behind him as if, sort of got behind him as if, oh,— sort of got behind him as if, as as— sort of got behind him as if, oh, it's terrible.— sort of got behind him as if, oh, it's terrible. poor phil, i feu— oh, it's terrible. poor phil, i fen-fa— oh, it's terrible. poor phil, i felt-for his— oh, it's terrible. poor phil, i felt-for his wife- oh, it's terrible. poor phil, i felt-for his wife .- oh, it's terrible. poor phil, i felt for his wife . you felt sorry for his wife. you know,— felt sorry for his wife. you know, .— felt sorry for his wife. you know, i think— felt sorry for his wife. you know, i think that's phil felt sorry— know, i think that's phil felt sari-ms— know, i think that's phil felt sorry-his wife. - know, i think that's phil felt sorry his wife. sorry for his wife. but i think the main question here is if we're to step we're going to sort of step aside personal life, aside from his personal life, is he broadcaster and he a brilliant broadcaster and is best for the job.7 is he the best man for the job.7 he fantastic broadcaster. he is a fantastic broadcaster. he's experience he's got 20 years experience just on this morning alone. he has a phenomenal amount of talent experience . and it's talent and experience. and it's just we've got to really just what we've got to really assess from assess really if we want from our presenters our our tv presenters and our celebrities people celebrities to be perfect people or do we want to be brilliant at their he best man theirjobs.7 is he the best man for the job.7 is his sex life of interest viewers .7 but that's interest to viewers? but that's that's interest to viewers? but that's shat-s a— interest to viewers? but that's shat-s a-aaa— interest to viewers? but that's that's a-too far. - interest to viewers? but that's that's a -too far. imean, i that's a step too far. i mean, share-s— that's a step too far. i mean, there's-much— that's a step too far. i mean, there's-much on- that's a step too far. i mean, there's much on him. there's there's too much on him. there's too—ana- there's too much on him. there's too _and rebecca.| too much on him. and rebecca. rm— too much on him. and rebecca. ran-gone.— too much on him. and rebecca. i'm _gone. rebecca,- too much on him. and rebecca. i'm you gone. rebecca, too much on him. and rebecca. i'm you very one. rebecca, too much on him. and rebecca. i'm you very much ebecca, too much on him. and rebecca. i'm you very much foricca, too much on him. and rebecca. i'm you very much forjoining thank you very much for joining that-s— thank you very much for joining me. that's rebecca. thank me. that's rebecca. tony, thank you— me. that's rebecca. tony, thank you-sa— me. that's rebecca. tony, thank you-so af— me. that's rebecca. tony, thank you-so if you-vs- me. that's rebecca. tony, thank you so if you've just you so much. so if you've just jamaa— you so much. so if you've just joined—oral joined joined us. welcome on board.— board. it's gb news. we're live on board. it's gb news. we're live aa-aaa— board. it's gb news. we're live on-and.digital. on tv, online and on digital radio.— on tv, online and on digital radio-phillip- radio. of course, phillip schofield— radio. of course, phillip schofield stepped down

radio. of course, phillip- schofield-stepped down from schofield has stepped down from itv. schofield has stepped down from .tv. has— schofield has stepped down from .w. that is— schofield has stepped down from itv. that is the _ schofield has stepped down from itv. that is the breaking news. vie-u— we'll be talking about that throughout— we'll be talking about that. throughout—let's throughout the show. but let's tak— throughout the show. but let's talk—water- talk about water. water suppliers— talk about water. water suppliers say- talk about water. water suppliers say that they are ready— suppliers say that they are ready aa— suppliers say that they are ready to spend— suppliers say that they are ready to spend £10 billion on tackling— ready to spend £10 billion on tackling sewage— ready to spend £10 billion on tackling sewage spills, but it's going— tackling sewage spills, but it's going a— tackling sewage spills, but it's game a sane— tackling sewage spills, but it's going to come your pocket. going to come from your pocket. yes,— going to come from your pocket. ves that-s— going to come from your pocket. yes, that's right.— yes, that's right. these privately— yes, that's right. these privately have privately owned companies have apologised— privately owned companies have apologised-aet— privately owned companies have apologised not acting apologised for not acting quietly— apologised for not acting quickly enough, despite the fact that— quickly enough, despite the fact that-givea— quickly enough, despite the fact that-given their- that they've given their shareholders- that they've given their shareholders plenty of cash to tackle — shareholders plenty of cash to tackle sewage _ shareholders plenty of cash to tackle sewage spills as they're facing— tackle sewage spills as they're facing mounting— tackle sewage spills as they're facing mounting public anger over continued— facing mounting public anger over continued disposal of raw seage— over continued disposal of raw sewage wate— over continued disposal of raw sewage into the— over continued disposal of raw sewage into the rivers and seas . east— sewage into the rivers and seas . east wear,— sewage into the rivers and seas . wasa wear, aw— sewage into the rivers and seas . last year, raw sewage was damped— . last year, raw sewage was awmgea wate— . last year, raw sewage was dumped into rivers about 825 awes— dumped into rivers about 825 times an— dumped into rivers about 825 times an a— dumped into rivers about 825 times an a gaw— dumped into rivers about 825 times on a day on average. twat-s— times on a day on average. that's ridiculous- times on a day on average. that's ridiculous . so joining me that's ridiculous. so joining me is— that's ridiculous. so joining me is swi— that's ridiculous. so joining me now is civil engineer and seaweed— now is civil engineer and chartered water environment manager, simon— chartered water environment manager, simon crowther. chartered water environment manager, simon crowther . simon, manager, simon crowther. simon, thew-we— manager, simon crowther. simon, they've got— manager, simon crowther. simon, thew-we get a— manager, simon crowther. simon, they've got a nerve,— manager, simon crowther. simon, they've got a nerve, haven't thew— they've got a nerve, haven't they? tt-s— they've got a nerve, haven't ttewe tt-s a— they've got a nerve, haven't they? it's a really interesting potat— they? it's a really interesting pant twat— they? it's a really interesting getat twat .— they? it's a really interesting point that i think actually the government— point that i think actually the government will— point that i think actually the government will be breathing a stgt— government will be breathing a stgtlaettet— government will be breathing a sigh relief because water sigh of relief because water eemaatges— sigh of relief because water companies—out. sigh of relief because water. companies—out and companies have come out and saw— companies have come out and sag-seaw— companies have come out and sag-saw. — companies have come out and sag-saw. ant- companies have come out and said, sorry . ' “2 ”t“22; said, we're sorry. and there's been a lot of pressure on the government to act. and actually, if government to act. and actually, t we— government to act. and actually, t we teat— government to act. and actually, t we teat at— government to act. and actually, if we look at regulatory- g exec and actually, if we look at regulatory failure , twee-s— if we look at regulatory failure , there's been— if we look at regulatory failure , there's been a— if we look at regulatory failure , there's been a lot of aegwtataw— , there's been a lot of regulatory failure here. the government— regulatory failure here. the government have- regulatory failure here. the government have really defunded the regulation, has

the regulation, which has allowed companies us to allowed water companies us to effectively as they please effectively do as they please and channel the money off to the shareholders. again , it's very shareholders. again, it's very easy— shareholders. again, it's very easy to— shareholders. again, it's very easy to seat— shareholders. again, it's very easy to seat at— shareholders. again, it's very easy to sort of look- shareholders. again, it's very easy to sort of look at- easy to sort of look at shareholders- easy to sort of look at shareholders they're easy to sort of look at shainternationals they're easy to sort of look at shainternationals taking:hey're easy to sort of look at shainternationals taking the�*re all internationals taking the anew— all internationals taking the new tat— all internationals taking the money, but some of them might be nenstanens— money, but some of them might be nenstanens as— money, but some of them might be pensioners as well. _ money, but some of them might be pensioners as well. ”t“22; pensioners as well. so there's teen— pensioners as well. so there's been this sort of drive to fund the shareholders. the money's atwaastw— the shareholders. the money's atwawstw gane— the shareholders. the money's obviously gone and— : the money's obviously gone and now we need to obviously gone and now we need ta tnwest— obviously gone and now we need ta tnwest tn— obviously gone and now we need to invest in the— obviously gone and now we need to invest in the system. we've got— to invest in the system. we've gat-agetng— to invest in the system. we've got ageing system, got a really ageing system, a vtetanan— got a really ageing system, a victorian particularly victorian system, particularly in victorian system, particularly tn tantan— victorian system, particularly in london, where— victorian system, particularly in london, where both the foul waent — in london, where both the foul wnaet sa tne— in london, where both the foul water, so the water from your tattet— water, so the water from your tattet ana— water, so the water from your toilet and the— water, so the water from your toilet and the water from the nan— toilet and the water from the att— toilet and the water from the att gaes— toilet and the water from the rain all goes into— toilet and the water from the rain all goes into one. every ttme— rain all goes into one. every ttnelnatns— rain all goes into one. every ttnelnatns .— rain all goes into one. every timelrains . we- rain all goes into one. every time rains . we can't cope time it rains. we can't cope wttn— time it rains. we can't cope wttn tnat. — time it rains. we can't cope with that. so— time it rains. we can't cope with that. so it— time it rains. we can't cope with that. so it dumped with that. so it gets dumped tnta—tnats- with that. so it gets dumped into _that's the into the rivers and that's the same across the _ into the rivers and that's the same across the country. we've got— same across the country. we've gatlneattw— same across the country. we've gatlneattw agetng— got a really ageing infrastructure got a really ageing- infrastructure .weren't they infrastructure. weren't they given licences with given their licences with conditions as to what they must do and thing about do? and the whole thing about dropping sewage was supposed to be only occasionally. yeah. and they the proverbial they have taken the proverbial frankly. so now and the government haven't fined them enough. haven't been hard enough. they haven't been hard enough. they haven't been hard enough on them off. what i think it have been pretty slack . it is have been pretty slack. yeah. off what's in the environment— “23“ off what's in the environment agency. but that's

because— environment agency. but that's because regulators been environment agency. but that's betdefunded,'egulators been environment agency. but that's betdefunded, which ors been environment agency. but that's betdefunded, which is; been environment agency. but that's betdefunded, which is; think)een so defunded, which is i think why— so defunded, which is i think why government's now will be why the government's now will be so why the government's now will be sa renewed— why the government's now will be so relieved that— why the government's now will be so relieved that actually it's ewes— so relieved that actually it's ewesltne— so relieved that actually it's eyes the companies so relieved that actually it's- eyes.the-companies and eyes on the water companies and ewes— eyes on the water companies and eweslwnene-s— eyes on the water companies and eyes-where's that— eyes on the water companies and eyes where's that been eyes on where's that money been gatng. — eyes on where's that money been gatng. .eves_ eyes on where's that money been gatng. .ewes an— eyes on where's that money been going. .eyes on what's- eyes on where's that money been going. t2w“ going. not eyes on what's the regulatory failure been. so i think the story think it's always the story behind the headline as well. we've bit deeper. we've got to dig a bit deeper. yes, good that the water yes, it's good that the water companies are acknowledging the issue, but it's not good that we're to effectively have we're going to effectively have to again. and to pay for it again. and it's not that this has even not good that this has even happened and it's taken public pressure to get to this point. yes ridiculous, i yes ridiculous, isn't it? i tan-t— yes ridiculous, isn't it? i tan-t-wnw— yes ridiculous, isn't it? i. don't-whv-paying yes ridiculous, isn't it? i- don't-why-paying for don't see why we're paying for it. don't see why we're paying for t. tnew— don't see why we're paying for it. they should— don't see why we're paying for it. they should be— don't see why we're paying for it. they should be getting it off shareholders. they it. they should be getting it off enoughtholders. they it. they should be getting it off enough profit.s. they it. they should be getting it off enough profit.s. tibills it. they should be getting it off going ugh profit.s. tibills it. they should be getting it off going t0�*i profit.s. tibills it. they should be getting it off going to go �*ofit.s. tibills it. they should be getting it off going to go up..s. tibills it. they should be getting it off going to go up. surprise,; are going to go up. surprise, swnsen— surprise. simon, thank you very naen. — surprise. simon, thank you very naen. _ta- much. it's lovely to talk to wan.— much. it's lovely to talk to was tnat— much. it's lovely to talk to we tnat ts— much. it's lovely to talk to you. that is simon crowther. gog.— you. that is simon crowther. sat. nae— you. that is simon crowther. god, more, more— you. that is simon crowther. god, more, more bills, of course, go god, more, more bills, of cotall, go god, more, more bills, of cotall,.time go god, more, more bills, of col all,.time , go god, more, more bills, of cotall,.time , but go god, more, more bills, of cotall, time , but that's go god, more, more bills, of cotall, time , but that's the up all the time, but that's the way— up all the time, but that's the wawltne— up all the time, but that's the way .the world, _ up all the time, but that's the way the world, now way of the world, isn't it? now tet-s—tnts- way of the world, isn't it? now let's—this one.- way of the world, isn't it? now let's—this one. thisi let's talk about this one. this is let's talk about this one. this ts a— let's talk about this one. this ts a tag— let's talk about this one. this ts a ttg ane— let's talk about this one. this is a big one because there's a lot is a big one because there's a tat at— is a big one because there's a tat at neante— is a big one because there's a lot of people - live - is a big one because there's a lot of people live in rented lot of people who live in rented accommodation— lot of people who live in rented. accommodation—to accommodation and they're set to gatn— accommodation and they're set to gain—up- accommodation and they're set to gatn—wn tal gain more rights to stand up to untan— gain more rights to stand up to wntatn—nant- gain more rights to stand up to antatn—nant at- gain more rights to stand up to unfair—part of thei unfair landlords as part of the gaennnents— unfair landlords as part of the government's new rental reforms. the government's new rental reforms. tne tatt— government's new rental reforms. tne tttt wttt— government's new rental reforms. the bill will ban— government's new rental reforms. the bill will ban so—called no tawtt— the bill will ban so—called no taut-ant— the bill will ban so—called no taut-ant tt- the bill will ban so—called no fault-and it will- the bill will ban so—called no fault and it will be fault evictions and it will be easier-landlords- fault evictions and it will be easier landlords to easier for landlords to repossess property repossess their property for ntssea— repossess their property for. missed—antisocial missed payments or antisocial tenawtawn — missed payments or antisocial behaviour. but— missed payments or antisocial behaviour. but with the housing

entsts— behaviour. but with the housing crisis looming,— behaviour. but with the housing crisis looming, there are fears tnat— crisis looming, there are fears tnat-state— crisis looming, there are fears tnat-state an— crisis looming, there are fears that shake up will also push that the shake up will also push tanatants— that the shake up will also push tanttants ta— that the shake up will also push landlords to-up,_ that the shake up will also push landlords to up, leading to landlords to sell up, leading to a—nnanenttes- landlords to sell up, leading to a—nnanenttes ta- a shortage of properties to rent —naw- a shortage of properties to rent. _now to. a shortage of properties to- rent. _now to discuss rent. so with me now to discuss tnts—exnent- rent. so with me now to discuss tnts—exnent ant- this as property expert and tanttant— this as property expert and landlord ricardo blanco, ricardo ntanea— landlord ricardo blanco, ricardo ntanea wttn— landlord ricardo blanco, ricardo blanco with the— landlord ricardo blanco, ricardo blanco with the fabulous tuc you tatwtaws— blanco with the fabulous tuc you fabulous theo— blanco with the fabulous tuc you fabulous theo walcott, i must saw.— fabulous theo walcott, i must saw. on.— fabulous theo walcott, i must saw. on. naw— fabulous theo walcott, i must say. oh, now talk— fabulous theo walcott, i must say. oh, now talk to me about tnts— say. oh, now talk to me about this, because _ say. oh, now talk to me about this, because i— say. oh, now talk to me about this, because i know that you've atsa— this, because i know that you've atsa-want— this, because i know that you've also _work with - this, because i know that you've also _work with the - this, because i know that you've also work with the nra also you also work with the nra as-t— also you also work with the nra as-t tntnt— also you also work with the nra as-i think from - also you also work with the nra as-i think from the. as well. yes, i think from the state— as well. yes, i think from the state at— as well. yes, i think from the state at a— as well. yes, i think from the side of a landlord, because i've teen— side of a landlord, because i've been a— side of a landlord, because i've been a landlord— side of a landlord, because i've been a landlord and i also have twea— been a landlord and i also have ttwet tn— been a landlord and i also have lived in rented— been a landlord and i also have lived in rented accommodation. i do lived in rented accommodation. i talttt— lived in rented accommodation. i taint-tatt— lived in rented accommodation. i taltttltatn. t— lived in rented accommodation. i dolbitlboth. i don't- lived in rented accommodation. i do bit both. i don't think do a bit of both. i don't think tnts— do a bit of both. i don't think tnts-tntng.- this is a good thing. getting rid this is a good thing. getting we at— this is a good thing. getting rid of section— this is a good thing. getting rid of section 21— this is a good thing. getting rid of section 21 in that manner. is— rid of section 21 in that manner. is it- rid of section 21 in that manner. is it a good or bad tntnge— manner. is it a good or bad tntnge — manner. is it a good or bad thing? _there's- manner. is it a good or bad- thing? _there'slpolitical thing? well, there's a political consensus now around getting rid of so—called no fault eviction. it could work if we managed to beef up courts . the problem beef up the courts. the problem is too slow . it is the courts are too slow. it takes at least months takes at least six months to go through courts. if you have through the courts. if you have to. going happen to. and what's going to happen is, you know, more many more cases will end up going through the courts once these changes cases will end up going through the ccin. s once these changes cases will end up going through the ccin. thece these changes cases will end up going through the ccin. the changes changes cases will end up going through the ccin. the changes are nges cases will end up going through the ccin. the changes are likely come in. the changes are likely to come in in about 18 months time. that's, you know , time. and that's, you know, precious really for precious little time really for the courts to get up to speed. so that's one main so that's one of the main concerns i think landlords have

to tells us that 33% of to research tells us that 33% of landlords are thinking of selling up some or all of their properties next year. and what that's going to do is mean there's going to be further shortage of supply rents are likely up and it's going likely to go up and it's going to for to get to be harder for people to get rented properties. so it is a big it's like they big concern. it's like they nawen-t— big concern. it's like they haven't thought- g ff it's like they haven't thought through haven't thought it through tease— haven't thought it through because _that- haven't thought it through because _that ,- haven't thought it through because that , as because not only that, as a tanttant— because not only that, as a landlord, landlords landlord, what landlords sometimes— landlord, what landlordsi sometimes-put landlord, what landlords. sometimes-put in landlord, what landlords- sometimes-put in rent sometimes do is they put in rent tnateettan— sometimes do is they put in rent tnateettan .— sometimes do is they put in rent protection , which— sometimes do is they put in rent protection , which their protection, which protects their nent— protection, which protects their nent tt— protection, which protects their nent tt tne — protection, which protects their rent if the tenant— protection, which protects their rent if the tenant defaults and in rent if the tenant defaults and tn anten— rent if the tenant defaults and tn anten ta— rent if the tenant defaults and in order to get— rent if the tenant defaults and in order to get rent protection, the in order to get rent protection, tne tenant— in order to get rent protection, the tenant must— in order to get rent protection, the tenant must be assessed. so tnew— the tenant must be assessed. so tnew ga— the tenant must be assessed. so tnew ga tnnawgn— the tenant must be assessed. so they go through financial they go through some financial sneaks—tnat- they go through some financial checks—that theyi checks to make sure that they gwatttw. — checks to make sure that they gwatttw. _get- checks to make sure that they gwatttw. _get tne - qualify. then you get the tnateettan.— qualify. then you get the protection. if— qualify. then you get the protection. if with their new gaats— protection. if with their new gaats-ane — protection. if with their new gaats-ane ta- protection. if with their new goals, are to you can take goals, which are to you can take on goals, which are to you can take an teatte— goals, which are to you can take an teatte wna— goals, which are to you can take on people who are— goals, which are to you can take on people who are services or wnatewen— on people who are services or wnatewen teatte — on people who are services or whatever people on benefits and stutt— whatever people on benefits and stutt tte— whatever people on benefits and stuff like that,— whatever people on benefits and stuff like that, which is fine, tnat-s— stuff like that, which is fine, that's-there's- stuff like that, which is fine, that's there's nothing that's fine. there's nothing wrang— that's fine. there's nothingi wnang—tt wrong with that. how will it want— wrong with that. how will it want-negat— wrong with that. how will it work-regard to- wrong with that. how will it work regard to those rent work with regard to those rent tnateettan— work with regard to those renti protection _ because work with regard to those rent protect look because work with regard to those rent protect look on because work with regard to those rent protect look on it because work with regard to those rent protect look on it and because work with regard to those rent protect look on it and say, ause they'll look on it and say, wett— they'll look on it and say, wet-tass- they'll look on it and say, well,-pass this. well, did they pass this qualifying— well, did they pass this qualifying aspect ? and then if qualifying aspect? and then if tnew—wau- qualifying aspect? and then if tnew—wau can-t- they don't, then you can't get tnateettan— they don't, then you can't get protection .that _ they don't, then you can't get protection that and protection for that rent. and tne— protection for that rent. and the government— protection for that rent. and the government that the government is saying that you— the government is saying that wau nave— the government is saying that wan nawe ta— the government is saying that you have to take— the government is saying that you have to take on people tnesteettwe— you have to take on people. irrespective _things irrespective of different things and you and checks and balances that you ntgnt—vaa-ne-

might put in place. you're ntgtt. wana— might put in place. you're right. nana wants right. nana the government wants to right. nana the government wants ta-sa—eattet— right. nana the government wants to-so—called nodes— right. nana the government wants to-so—called nodes ,- ” g“ nana the government wants to so—called nodes , you to ban so—called nodes, you tnaw—teatte- to ban so—called nodes, you know,_people oni know, not taking people on tenettts— know, not taking people on. benefits._taking benefits. and also not taking patents—an- parents with children or tantttes— parents with children or families. now currently, if you want— families. now currently, if you want ta— families. now currently, if you want ta get— families. now currently, if you want to get rent— families. now currently, if you want to get rent protection insurance, you _ want to get rent protection insurance, you can't get it if waw— insurance, you can't get it if waw tenants— insurance, you can't get it if your tenants are— insurance, you can't get it if your tenants are on benefits. tnat-s— your tenants are on benefits. tnat-s ntgnt— your tenants are on benefits. that's right. so— your tenants are on benefits. that's right. so certainly i tntnt— that's right. so certainly i think insurance- that's right. so certainly i think insurance companies are gatng— think insurance companies are gatng ta— think insurance companies are gatng ta nave— think insurance companies are going to have to— think insurance companies are going to have to look at that agatn— going to have to look at that agatn .— going to have to look at that agatn . ana— going to have to look at that again . and who— going to have to look at that again . and who what will again. and who knows what will natten— again. and who knows what will natten-tnat. — again. and who knows what will natten-tnat. t— again. and who knows what will happen .that. i _the l happen with that. i think the atten— happen with that. i think the atnen-tnat- happen with that. i think the other-that rates,- happen with that. i think the other that rates, which other issue is that rates, which is other issue is that rates, which ts tne — other issue is that rates, which ts tne naustng— other issue is that rates, which is the housing benefit that teatte— is the housing benefit that teatte get.— is the housing benefit that people get, have been frozen snee— people get, have been frozen zozt. — people get, have been frozen since 2021. and— people get, have been frozen since 2021. and actually those tenettts— since 2021. and actually those benefits don't— since 2021. and actually those benefits don't add up enough to tne— benefits don't add up enough to cover the rent.— benefits don't add up enough to cover the rent. and— benefits don't add up enough to cover the rent. and really sentatntw— cover the rent. and really certainly what— cover the rent. and really certainly what we've been eantatgntng— certainly what we've been campaigning for as well is for the government— campaigning for as well is for the government to unfreeze those rates— the government to unfreeze those rates-teame— the government to unfreeze those rates people benefits rates so that people on benefits nave— rates so that people on benefits naweltetten— rates so that people on benefits have l better chance - rates so that people on benefits have better chance of getting have a better chance of getting a tentat— have a better chance of getting a rental property. _ have a better chance of getting a rental property. so do you teet— a rental property. so do you teet tnts— a rental property. so do you feel this a that hasn't feel this is a plan that hasn't really thoroughly thought really been thoroughly thought through? court system, six out with the court system, six months long it would months is how long it would normally take. if you're lucky to someone , that's to evict someone, that's a section to do that. that's section eight to do that. that's right, yes. if they got rid of section 21. but then if it's taking six months, the landlord section 21. but then if it's taking haveionths, the landlord section 21. but then if it's taking haveior sort the landlord section 21. but then if it's taking haveior sort of; landlord section 21. but then if it's taking haveior sort of lookdlord section 21. but then if it's taking haveior sort of look after would have to sort of look after that between in that process in between in the court is really, really court system is really, really slow. do come up

slow. so even if they do come up with mechanism, you'll with a better mechanism, you'll still the court still be wasting in the court system exactly. and of system. yes, exactly. and of course, can is system. yes, exactly. and of. course,-can-is you course, what can happen is you getltassesstan— course, what can happen is you getlpossession-but- get a possession order, but it stttt—sl still takes a further 2 or 3 nantns— still takes a further 2 or 3 nantns tan— still takes a further 2 or 3 months for bailiff to actually months for a bailiff to actually ennaweaw—w- months for a bailiff to actually remove now, that's remove the tenant. now, that's in remove the tenant. now, that's tn—ases vau- remove the tenant. now, that'si in _cases. you know, in exceptional cases. you know, ewtettan—tast- eviction is always the last esnt— eviction is always the last resort,-think- eviction is always the last resort,-think a- eviction is always the last resort, think a lot of resort, but i think a lot of tanttants— resort, but i think a lot of landlords will— resort, but i think a lot of landlords will be very nervous unttt— landlords will be very nervous unttt we— landlords will be very nervous unttt we see— landlords will be very nervous until we see improvement in the sawt— until we see improvement in the aunt swsten— until we see improvement in the court system and— until we see improvement in the court system and we may see a greater— court system and we may see a greater sett— court system and we may see a greater sell off.— court system and we may see a greater sell off. yes— court system and we may see a greater sell off. yes e greater sell off. yes it's a peanut— greater sell off. yes it's a pteaswe ta— greater sell off. yes it's a pleasure to talk to you. i could talk to you for ages about this. pleasure to talk to you. i could tallwill/ou for ages about this. pleasure to talk to you. i could tali

unforgettable appearances on strictly dancing and strictly come dancing and delight audiences with her unique i'm pleased to say unique moves. i'm pleased to say that ann widdecombe joins me now. thank you very much for now. and thank you very much for joining political joining me for political spotlight . we always want to spotlight. we always want to know like for know what it's like for politicians and what it's like to be a politician. but now you've kind of come from you've kind of come away from the mainstay of it when the sort of mainstay of it when you were the conservative party. you've why you've now joined reform. why i had become steadily disillusioned with the conservatives over brexit. the nafion conservatives over brexit. the nation voted to leave- conservatives over brexit. the nation voted to leave the- e the nation voted to leave the eu . nation voted to leave the eu. tnenetane. — nation voted to leave the eu. tnenetane. t— nation voted to leave the eu. therefore, i thought very natwetw— therefore, i thought very naively that— therefore, i thought very naively that we would leave the tu. — naively that we would leave the tu. tat— naively that we would leave the tu. tat tten— naively that we would leave the eu. but then theresa- naively that we would leave the eu. “2“ eu. but then theresa may particularly just stalled and stalled, and there was no progress being made . the deal progress being made. the deal wasn't acceptable— progress being made. the deal wasn't acceptable ,— g “t; : the deal wasn't acceptable , parliament wasn't acceptable, parliament wauttn-t— wasn't acceptable, parliament wauttn-t tass— wasn't acceptable, parliament wouldn't pass it— wasn't acceptable, parliament wouldn't pass it and i got very tnustnatea. — wouldn't pass it and i got very frustrated. so— wouldn't pass it and i got very frustrated. so i— wouldn't pass it and i got very frustrated. so i joined the treat— frustrated. so i joined the treat tantw— frustrated. so i joined the brexit party and that was after 55 brexit party and that was after st weas— brexit party and that was after st weans at— brexit party and that was after 55 years of being— brexit party and that was after 55 years of being in the conservative— 55 years of being in the conservative party. i began in tne— conservative party. i began in tne wawng— conservative party. i began in the young conservatives and i

tatnet— the young conservatives and i tatnet tne— the young conservatives and i joined the brexit— the young conservatives and i joined the brexit party . when joined the brexit party. when the joined the brexit party. when tne twent— joined the brexit party. when the brexit party— joined the brexit party. when the brexit party , in my view, the brexit party, in my view, wenw— the brexit party, in my view, very prematurely dissolved . i very prematurely dissolved. i tnen— very prematurely dissolved. i tnen stawea— very prematurely dissolved. i then stayed politically homeless for then stayed politically homeless tan a— then stayed politically homeless tan a wntte— then stayed politically homeless for a while because i had various doubts- for a while because i had various doubts about reform. but but various doubts about reform. but tut tnene— various doubts about reform. but tut tnene was— various doubts about reform. but but there was no— various doubts about reform. but but there was no question ever of but there was no question ever at gatng— but there was no question ever at gatng tast— but there was no question ever at gatng taet ta— but there was no question ever of going back to the conservatives while they were in ttett— conservatives while they were in tnetn present— conservatives while they were in their present state. _ conservatives while they were in their present state. so i've tatnet— their present state. so i've joined reform _ their present state. so i've joined reform . - their present state. so i've joined reform . edges their present state. so i've joined reform . / their present state. so i've joined reform . “2?“ e 9.ti.“ their present state. so i've joined reform . “22“ e 5.ti“ joined reform. yeah, it's such a shame. mean the conservative party. i don't know what they're doing. they just eating themselves the out. themselves from the inside out. frankly and won't stop. frankly and they won't stop. why? time for meals why? why? it's time for meals oven . why? why? it's time for meals over. . stop eating over. snacks over. stop eating yourselves. they won't stop yourselves. but they won't stop . but to backwards . why did . but to go backwards. why did you get into politics to begin with? um , when i was growing up, with? um, when i was growing up, the with? um, when i was growing up, tne want— with? um, when i was growing up, tne want was— with? um, when i was growing up, the world was very— “7 um, when i was growing up, the world was very sharply ttwttet— the world was very sharply divided into— the world was very sharply divided into two great, conflicting— divided into two great, conflicting political ideologies cannnnuntsnn— conflicting political ideologies communism versus capitalism , and communism versus capitalism, and its manifestation— communism versus capitalism, and its manifestation was the cold wan— its manifestation was the cold wan tnt— its manifestation was the cold war. and everybody knew which state— war. and everybody knew which state at— war. and everybody knew which state at tnat— war. and everybody knew which side of that argument they were on. side of that argument they were tn— side of that argument they were on. in countries— side of that argument they were on. in countries such as ours, it on. in countries such as ours, tt wasnt— on. in countries such as ours, it wasn't communism. it was saetattsn — it wasn't communism. it was socialism versus— it wasn't communism. it was socialism versus capitalism. but it socialism versus capitalism. but tt was— socialism versus capitalism. but tt neat— socialism versus capitalism. but it was real socialism. it wasn't tony— it was real socialism. it wasn't tanw ttatn— it was real socialism. it wasn't tanw ttatn tt— it was real socialism. it wasn't tony blair. it was— it was real socialism. it wasn't tony blair. it was red in tooth

ant— tony blair. it was red in tooth and etaw. — tony blair. it was red in tooth and claw. and— tony blair. it was red in tooth and claw. and everybody knew wnten— and claw. and everybody knew wnten state— and claw. and everybody knew which side of— and claw. and everybody knew which side of that— and claw. and everybody knew which side of that argument they were on, and they— which side of that argument they were on, and they knew it with ttett— were on, and they knew it with tnetn neat.— were on, and they knew it with their head, their— were on, and they knew it with their head, their heart, their wenw— their head, their heart, their wenw gut— their head, their heart, their wenw gwt .— their head, their heart, their wenw gwt . tnt— their head, their heart, their very gut . and so i knew that very gut. and so i knew that i att— very gut. and so i knew that i ate nat— very gut. and so i knew that i ate nat want— very gut. and so i knew that i did not want socialism, that i watta— did not want socialism, that i wautt ttgnt— did not want socialism, that i would fight socialism to the tttten— would fight socialism to the tttten ena— would fight socialism to the bitter end and— would fight socialism to the bitter end and that was why i teae— bitter end and that was why i tea a— bitter end and that was why i became a member of parliament. so became a member of parliament. sa tt— became a member of parliament. sa tt wan— became a member of parliament. sa tt wan tatn-t— became a member of parliament. so if you hadn't done— became a member of parliament. so if you hadn't done this- became a member of parliament. so if you hadn't done this and would you have gone into perhaps dancing , what would you have dancing, what would you have doneif dancing, what would you have done if you hadn't gone into politics? an i certainly wouldn't go into dancing. i've never in my life. i can never danced in my life. i can tett— never danced in my life. i can tett-antan— never danced in my life. i can tell-anton called- never danced in my life. i can tell anton called that many tell you, anton called that many tttngs— tell you, anton called that many tntngs tut— tell you, anton called that many things, but-never— tell you, anton called that many things, but never called it things, but he never called it tanstng— things, but he never called it dancing-once- things, but he never called it dancing-once .- things, but he never called it dancing. once . so dancing. never once. so i sentatntw— dancing. never once. so i certainly wouldn't have gone tnta— certainly wouldn't have gone tnta tanstng— certainly wouldn't have gone into dancing. i— certainly wouldn't have gone into dancing. i think actually i watta— into dancing. i think actually i wautt nave— into dancing. i think actually i would have probably taught latin in a would have probably taught latin tn a gas— would have probably taught latin in a girls school.— would have probably taught latin in a girls school. in fact , for in a girls school. in fact, for weas— in a girls school. in fact, for weas tnat-s— in a girls school. in fact, for years. that's what i thought i gatng— years. that's what i thought i gatng ta— years. that's what i thought i was going to do.— years. that's what i thought i was going to do. but once i tested— was going to do. but once i decidedeanted- was going to do. but once i decided wanted be decided i wanted to be a tattttetan.— decided i wanted to be a politician, teaching was an tntnaetteat— politician, teaching was an impractical choice because i sauttn-t— impractical choice because i couldn't have— impractical choice because i couldn't have gone to party conference, you— couldn't have gone to party conference, you know, in the ntttte— conference, you know, in the ntttte at— conference, you know, in the middle of term— conference, you know, in the middle of term in october of course, i couldn't— middle of term in october of course, i couldn't i couldn't nave— course, i couldn't i couldn't nawe wast— course, i couldn't i couldn't nawe twst gane— course, i couldn't i couldn't have just gone and visited seteettan— have just gone and visited selection committees all over tne— selection committees all over tne sauntnw— selection committees all over tne sauntnw .— selection committees all over tne eawntnw . tt— selection committees all over the country . it would have been the country. it would have been eanttetetw— the country. it would have been completely incompatible . so completely incompatible. so i

atantanea— completely incompatible. so i abandoned teaching idea for abandoned the teaching idea for fun abandoned the teaching idea for tun ana— abandoned the teaching idea for tun ant ta— abandoned the teaching idea for tun ant ta vou— abandoned the teaching idea for fun and do you feel that the conservatives— fun and do you feel that the conservatives have any chance of wtnntng— conservatives have any chance of wtnntng tnts— conservatives have any chance of winning this next— conservatives have any chance of winning this next election ? winning this next election? wett— winning this next election? wett. t— winning this next election? well, i really— winning this next election? well, i really can't see it. teta— well, i really can't see it. keir starmer_ well, i really can't see it. keir starmer does not deserve to te— keir starmer does not deserve to te wtt— keir starmer does not deserve to te wttt te— keir starmer does not deserve to win. he will be twice as disastrous— win. he will be twice as disastrous for- win. he will be twice as disastrous for the country as tttsnt— disastrous for the country as tttsnt ts— disastrous for the country as tttsnt ts .— disastrous for the country as tttsnt ts . sa— disastrous for the country as rishi is , so i— disastrous for the country as rishi is , so i hope he doesn't rishi is, so i hope he doesn't wtn— rishi is, so i hope he doesn't wtn .— rishi is, so i hope he doesn't wtn . tut— rishi is, so i hope he doesn't wtn . tut t— rishi is, so i hope he doesn't win . but i cannot- rishi is, so i hope he doesn't win . but i cannot see at the win. but i cannot see at the nnannent— win. but i cannot see at the nnannent at— win. but i cannot see at the moment at any— win. but i cannot see at the moment at any way by which the cansenattwe— moment at any way by which the conservative can— moment at any way by which the conservative can win. because attnaugn— conservative can win. because although rishi— conservative can win. because although rishi sunak has a very steatw— although rishi sunak has a very steatw nant— although rishi sunak has a very steady hand on— although rishi sunak has a very steady hand on the tiller, he nas— steady hand on the tiller, he nas na— steady hand on the tiller, he nas na ttea— steady hand on the tiller, he has no idea where his ship is going— has no idea where his ship is gatng . — has no idea where his ship is gatng . wett— has no idea where his ship is gatng . wett. t— has no idea where his ship is going . well, i don't- has no idea where his ship is going . �*ftt�*t2ll 22“ e has no idea where his ship is going . 22“ e “

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latest news headlines. good afternoon. it's 4:00. i'm ray ttttsan— afternoon. it's 4:00. i'm ray ttttsan tn— afternoon. it's 4:00. i'm ray addison in the— “ it's 4:00. i'm ray addison in the newsroom. phillip senatteta— addison in the newsroom. phillip schofield has— addison in the newsroom. phillip schofield has announced that nes— schofield has announced that we stetttng— schofield has announced that he's stepping down from itv's ttagsntt— he's stepping down from itv's flagship daytime— he's stepping down from itv's flagship daytime show this nanntng— flagship daytime show this morning with— flagship daytime show this morning with immediate effect. itv morning with immediate effect. ttv nas— morning with immediate effect. ttv nas atsa— morning with immediate effect. itv has also confirmed that he want— itv has also confirmed that he want te— itv has also confirmed that he won't be returning— itv has also confirmed that he won't be returning despite two decades— won't be returning despite two decades at— won't be returning despite two decades at the— won't be returning despite two decades at the helm with last tnwstaw-s— decades at the helm with last thursday's show— decades at the helm with last thursday's show being his final ca—nast— thursday's show being his final one. co—host holly willoughby wtt— one. co—host holly willoughby wttt nat— one. co—host holly willoughby wttt nat te— one. co—host holly willoughby will not be leaving on social nette— will not be leaving on social netta. tw— will not be leaving on social media. mr schofield said he wanted— media. mr schofield said he wanted ta— media. mr schofield said he wanted to protect the show that he wanted to protect the show that ne tawet— wanted to protect the show that he loved after— wanted to protect the show that he loved after his— wanted to protect the show that he loved after his brother, ttnatnw— he loved after his brother, timothy schofield was jailed for 12 timothy schofield was jailed for t weas— timothy schofield was jailed for at weans atten— timothy schofield was jailed for 12 years after being convicted of 12 years after being convicted at enta— 12 years after being convicted at enttt se— 12 years after being convicted of child sex offences . well, of child sex offences. well, want— of child sex offences. well, world leaders— of child sex offences. well, world leaders have welcomed ttnatne-s— world leaders have welcomed ukraine's president to the g7 sunntt— ukraine's president to the g7 sunntt tn— ukraine's president to the g7 summit in japan— ukraine's president to the g7 summit in japan . good to see summit in japan. good to see wan — summit in japan. good to see wan taw— summit in japan. good to see we now ae— summit in japan. good to see you. how are you?- summit in japan. good to see you. 222 2.7’ “22“ summit in japan. good to see you. 222 27 “22“ summit in japan. good to see you. 27 /t2.2“ you. how are you? yeah, i'm all right, thanks. hi, guys. vladimir zelenskyy met with the uk's prime minister, rishi sunak, who said the invite demonstrated the international community's steadfast support for ukraine against russian aggression. french president tnnanuet— aggression. french president emmanuel macron- 33 2“ french president emmanuel macron described his presence as a game changer

tawants— presence as a game changer tawants tease— presence as a game changer tawants tease .— presence as a game changer towards peace . well, that's as towards peace. well, that's as tne— towards peace. well, that's as tne wntte— towards peace. well, that's as the white house— towards peace. well, that's as the white house approved plans to the white house approved plans ta tnawtte— the white house approved plans ta tnawtae t—te— the white house approved plans to provide f—16 fighter jets to ttnatne— to provide f—16 fighter jets to ttnatne ant— to provide f—16 fighter jets to ukraine and to— to provide f—16 fighter jets to ukraine and to train its pilots . ttesttent— ukraine and to train its pilots . president zelenskyy has neteateatw— . president zelenskyy has repeatedly lobbied western atttes— repeatedly lobbied western attestat— repeatedly lobbied western allies for air— repeatedly lobbied western allies for air support and nattet— allies for air support and hailed the— allies for air support and hailed the move as historic, sawtng— hailed the move as historic, sawtng tt— hailed the move as historic, sawtng tt wtt— hailed the move as historic, saying it will greatly enhance ttnatne-s— saying it will greatly enhance ukraine's army— saying it will greatly enhance ukraine's army in the sky. the ttans— ukraine's army in the sky. the ttans ae— ukraine's army in the sky. the plans are expected to be rolled out plans are expected to be rolled aut tn— plans are expected to be rolled aut tn tne— plans are expected to be rolled out in the coming— plans are expected to be rolled out in the coming weeks and nantns— out in the coming weeks and nantns .— out in the coming weeks and nantns . tut— out in the coming weeks and months , but russia says it months, but russia says it carries colossal- months, but russia says it carries colossal risks for the west— carries colossal risks for the west .— carries colossal risks for the west . wett— carries colossal risks for the west . well, meanwhile, the head west. well, meanwhile, the head of west. well, meanwhile, the head at tussta-s— west. well, meanwhile, the head of russia's wagner— west. well, meanwhile, the head of russia's wagner mercenary group— of russia's wagner mercenary gnaut ts— of russia's wagner mercenary group is claiming full control of group is claiming full control at tne— group is claiming full control of the eastern— group is claiming full control of the eastern ukrainian city of tatnnut— of the eastern ukrainian city of tatnnut .— of the eastern ukrainian city of tatnnut. tt-s— of the eastern ukrainian city of bakhmut. it's been the of the eastern ukrainian city of bakhmut . it's been the focus of bakhmut. it's been the focus of the bakhmut. it's been the focus of tne tangest— bakhmut. it's been the focus of the longest and— bakhmut. it's been the focus of the longest and bloodiest battle of the longest and bloodiest battle at tne— the longest and bloodiest battle at tne wan— the longest and bloodiest battle of the war. ukraine's deputy tetenee— of the war. ukraine's deputy defence minister says the sttuattan— defence minister says the situation is— defence minister says the situation is critical, but tentes— situation is critical, but denies that— situation is critical, but denies that the city has fallen. tne— denies that the city has fallen. tne teaten— denies that the city has fallen. the leader of— denies that the city has fallen. the leader of the— denies that the city has fallen. the leader of the group, which the the leader of the group, which tne wt— the leader of the group, which tne wt ttans— the leader of the group, which the uk plans to— the leader of the group, which the uk plans to declare as a tenant— the uk plans to declare as a terrorist organisation , says its terrorist organisation, says its tes— terrorist organisation, says its tes wtt— terrorist organisation, says its forces will withdraw next week forces will withdraw next week tar rest— forces will withdraw next week tar rest and — forces will withdraw next week for rest and retraining . the for rest and retraining. the tataw— for rest and retraining. the tataw tanw— for rest and retraining. the labour party claims there's been a ttg— labour party claims there's been a ttg jump— labour party claims there's been a ttg jump tn— labour party claims there's been a ttg jump tn tne— labour party claims there's been a big jump in the number of

teatte— a big jump in the number of people dying— a big jump in the number of people dying in_ a big jump in the number of people dying in a&e amid record watttng— people dying in a&e amid record watttng ttnes— people dying in a&e amid record watttng ttnes .— people dying in a&e amid record waiting times . their analysis of waiting times. their analysis of wt— waiting times. their analysis of wt trust— waiting times. their analysis of nhs trust figures— waiting times. their analysis of nhs trust figures show that more tnan— nhs trust figures show that more tnan zsooo— nhs trust figures show that more than 23,000 people died in energensw— than 23,000 people died in emergency departments last year. tnat-s— emergency departments last year. was a— emergency departments last year. was a 22%— emergency departments last year. that's a 22% increase on 2021 ttgwes— that's a 22% increase on 2021 ttgwres tne— that's a 22% increase on 2021 figures. the government says it's delivering— figures. the government says it's delivering a— figures. the government says it's delivering a record number of it's delivering a record number at tests.— it's delivering a record number of tests, speeding— it's delivering a record number of tests, speeding up discharges and sutttng— of tests, speeding up discharges and cutting waiting lists . and cutting waiting lists. saunttng— and cutting waiting lists. counting continues- and cutting waiting lists. counting continues in- and cutting waiting lists. counting continues in the local elections in northern ireland, with just over 50 seats left to declare. sinn with just over 50 seats left to declare . sinn fein has made declare. sinn fein has made strang— declare. sinn fein has made strang gatns— declare. sinn fein has made strong gains and— declare. sinn fein has made strong gains and is- 2i sinn fein has made strong gains and is on course to tese— strong gains and is on course to tese tne— strong gains and is on course to become the largest— strong gains and is on course to become the largest party in tasat— become the largest party in local government, with 131 councillors— local government, with 131 councillors so— local government, with 131 councillors so far . the dup councillors so far. the dup surrenttw— councillors so far. the dup currently has— councillors so far. the dup currently has 113- councillors so far. the dup currently has 113 and the atttanse— currently has 113 and the alliance party- currently has 113 and the alliance party 55. it's the ttrst— alliance party 55. it's the first electoral— alliance party 55. it's the first electoral test for the rates— first electoral test for the parties since— first electoral test for the parties since last year's assenttw— parties since last year's assembly elections and takes ttase— assembly elections and takes ttase agatnst— assembly elections and takes place against the backdrop of the stormont_ place against the backdrop of the stormont stalemate. our wartnern— the stormont stalemate. our northern ireland reporter dougie teattte— northern ireland reporter dougie teattte saws— northern ireland reporter dougie beattie says the— northern ireland reporter dougie beattie says the political tantssate— beattie says the political landscape in— beattie says the political landscape in the country is

snangtng— landscape in the country is snangtng . — landscape in the country is changing . the- landscape in the country is changing. t ft landscape in the country is changing . ti�*?�* landscape in the country is changing. as? landscape in the country is- changing . the dup vote is down changing. the dup vote is down about 1.2% and the uup , which is about 1.2% and the uup, which is the very liberal unionist party , is down and around 3.2. and the tuv is up at about 1.5. so that means that liberal unionism is going. they are becoming the moderate side of unionist becoming much sterner and they are turning away from the good friday agreement. this is a massive blow for anybody that wants to get stormont up and running again because chris heaton—harris was always about threatening unionists that he would go to another election . would go to another election. well, a man has scaled the well, adman has scaled the front well, a man has scaled the front of well, a man has scaled the front at tne— well, a man has scaled the front at tne tts— well, a man has scaled the front of the bbc building in central tantan— of the bbc building in central tantan tn— of the bbc building in central london in protest against a ntstarts— london in protest against a historic statue. - london in protest against a historic statue. the man has been seen hammering at the prospero and ariel statue, which has been on display since 1933. police and rescue teams are there negotiating with him. campaigners have been calling for campaigners have been calling tar tts— campaigners have been calling for its removal— campaigners have been calling for its removal as— campaigners have been calling for its removal as the sculptor tns— for its removal as the sculptor trts stu— for its removal as the sculptor eric gill admitted— for its removal as the sculptor eric gill admitted in his states— eric gill admitted in his diaries that— eric gill admitted in his diaries that he had sexually

atuset— diaries that he had sexually atuset nts— diaries that he had sexually abused his daughters . ti.t2; abused his daughters. police tare— abused his daughters. police have setzet— abused his daughters. police have seized 15— abused his daughters. police have seized 15 dogs and arrested two people after a fatal dog attack in greater manchester. 37 year old jonathan hogg was ttttet— 37 year old jonathan hogg was ttttet tn— 37 year old jonathan hogg was killed in leigh— 37 year old jonathan hogg was killed in leigh on— 37 year old jonathan hogg was killed in leigh on thursday. 24 wear— killed in leigh on thursday. 24 wear ata— killed in leigh on thursday. 24 wear at nan— killed in leigh on thursday. 24 year old man was— killed in leigh on thursday. 24 year old man was arrested on susttstan— year old man was arrested on susttstan at— year old man was arrested on suspicion of being in charge of a tangerawstw— suspicion of being in charge of a dangerously out—of—control dog saustng— a dangerously out—of—control dog saustng teatt— a dangerously out—of—control dog causing death. and— a dangerously out—of—control dog causing death. and a 22 year old woman has also— causing death. and a 22 year old woman has also been arrested on susttstan— woman has also been arrested on susttstan at— woman has also been arrested on suspicion of money— woman has also been arrested on suspicion of money laundering . suspicion of money laundering. ware— suspicion of money laundering. ware tnan— suspicion of money laundering. more than 300— suspicion of money laundering. more than 300 jars of honey were tratusea— more than 300 jars of honey were traausea tast— more than 300 jars of honey were produced last year— more than 300 jars of honey were produced last year at buckingham ratase— produced last year at buckingham ratase .— produced last year at buckingham ratase . wttn— produced last year at buckingham palace , with some— produced last year at buckingham palace , with some of it being palace, with some of it being served— palace, with some of it being served ta— palace, with some of it being served to guard— palace, with some of it being served to guard and party gwests. — served to guard and party guests. a— served to guard and party guests. a new- served to guard and party guests. ' g served to guard and party guests. ' d guests. a new image of the princess of wales has been released to mark world bee day, showing royal beekeeper hours tending to hives at buckingham palace and clarence house. the queenis palace and clarence house. the queen is a keen beekeeper with honey made by herbs sold at fortnum and mason to a mason to raise money for charity . okay, raise money for charity. okay, this is gb news. we'll bring you more as it happens. now let's get back to nana .

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sansne— life. yeah, right. harry had no chance once she— life. yeah, right. harry had no chance once she plotted him on her chance once she plotted him on ten naat— chance once she plotted him on her mood ouija— chance once she plotted him on her mood ouija board thingy. you can her mood ouija board thingy. you starter— her mood ouija board thingy. you starter a— her mood ouija board thingy. you can charter a path— her mood ouija board thingy. you can charter a path in which what you can charter a path in which what wan repeat— can charter a path in which what wan reteat tn— can charter a path in which what wan reteat tn waw— can charter a path in which what you repeat in your daily acts of sense— you repeat in your daily acts of serwtse tn— you repeat in your daily acts of service in kindness— you repeat in your daily acts of service in kindness advocacy , service in kindness advocacy, grase — service in kindness advocacy, grase ana— service in kindness advocacy, grase ana tn— service in kindness advocacy, grace. and in fairness, what a tad— grace. and in fairness, what a taat at— grace. and in fairness, what a taat at tast— grace. and in fairness, what a load of tosh. the— grace. and in fairness, what a load of tosh. the day i look to someone like— load of tosh. the day i look to someone like that— load of tosh. the day i look to someone like that to give me atwtse— someone like that to give me atwtse. tn— someone like that to give me atwtse. tn tn— someone like that to give me advice, i'm in trouble. she's tne— advice, i'm in trouble. she's tte warst— advice, i'm in trouble. she's the worst example of it if i neat. — the worst example of it if i ever heard. i— the worst example of it if i ever heard. i mean, where is her ttntnesse— ever heard. i mean, where is her ttntnesse sne— ever heard. i mean, where is her kindness? she went— ever heard. i mean, where is her kindness? she went on oprah when trtnse— kindness? she went on oprah when rnsewas-— kindness? she went on oprah when tnnsewas- twtng— kindness? she went on oprah when prince-was dying .- prince philip was dying. atwasasw. — prince philip was dying. advocacy. advocacy for what? treattng — advocacy. advocacy for what? treattng wt— advocacy. advocacy for what? breaking up families. she knows all breaking up families. she knows att ataut— breaking up families. she knows all about that. _ breaking up families. she knows all about that. did— breaking up families. she knows all about that. did she say grase— all about that. did she say grase ar— all about that. did she say grace or was it— all about that. did she say grace or was it disgrace? how ataut— grace or was it disgrace? how ataut vou— grace or was it disgrace? how atawt wan ga— grace or was it disgrace? how about you go and— grace or was it disgrace? how about you go and say, go and see waw— about you go and say, go and see wawr awtng— about you go and say, go and see wawr awtng tat— about you go and say, go and see your dying dad and— about you go and say, go and see your dying dad and as for tarness— your dying dad and as for fairness, don't— your dying dad and as for fairness, don't make me laugh. taw— fairness, don't make me laugh. taw ts— fairness, don't make me laugh. taw ts tt— fairness, don't make me laugh. taw ts tt tat— fairness, don't make me laugh. how is it fair to— fairness, don't make me laugh. how is it fair to allow the sateen— how is it fair to allow the queen ta— how is it fair to allow the queen ta ga— how is it fair to allow the queen to go to- how is it fair to allow the queen to go to her grave with teattte— queen to go to her grave with teatte ant — queen to go to her grave with teatte ant tn— queen to go to her grave with people and in fact, the world tettewtng— people and in fact, the world believing that— people and in fact, the world believing that the royal family rastst— believing that the royal family were racist only— believing that the royal family were racist only for the two of ten — were racist only for the two of ten ta — were racist only for the two of them to gaslight— were racist only for the two of them to gaslight everyone ? none. them to gaslight everyone? none. wane.— them to gaslight everyone? none. wane-tnat— them to gaslight everyone? none. wane-tnat ts— them to gaslight everyone? none. none. _that is fair- them to gaslight everyone? none. none. _that is fair .- them to gaslight everyone? none. none. that is fair . she none. none of that is fair. she gaes— none. none of that is fair. she gaes an— none. none of that is fair. she gaes an ta— none. none of that is fair. she gaes an ta saw— none. none of that is fair. she gaes an ta saw .— none. none of that is fair. she goes on to say , who will join goes on to say, who will join tne— goes on to say, who will join the movement— goes on to say, who will join the movement and make our movement into— the movement and make our movement into an equitable . movement into an equitable. wett— movement into an equitable. wett. tt— movement into an equitable. well, it doesn't— movement into an equitable. well, it doesn't even make any tts— well, it doesn't even make any sense. it's nonsensical, said in a sat— sense. it's nonsensical, said in a sat tse— sense. it's nonsensical, said in a sat ta— sense. it's nonsensical, said in a soft voice to make it sound

sanwtnstng— a soft voice to make it sound convincing claptrap on leaving the convincing claptrap on leaving tte event— convincing claptrap on leaving the event instead— convincing claptrap on leaving the event instead of posing for atew— the event instead of posing for atew tress— the event instead of posing for a few press pictures. as is sustanarw— a few press pictures. as is customary with- a few press pictures. as is customary with most famous teattte.— customary with most famous teatte. arter— customary with most famous people. after after which the press— people. after after which the press tnen — people. after after which the press then leave— people. after after which the press then leave them alone . the press then leave them alone. the tute— press then leave them alone. the duke ant— press then leave them alone. the duke and duchess— press then leave them alone. the duke and duchess of hazard aesttet— duke and duchess of hazard testtea ta— duke and duchess of hazard decided to exit— duke and duchess of hazard decided to exit via the back taar— decided to exit via the back taar ant — decided to exit via the back taar ant ga — decided to exit via the back door and go on— decided to exit via the back door and go on what can only be sattet— door and go on what can only be sattet a— door and go on what can only be sattet a wtt— door and go on what can only be called a wild goose— door and go on what can only be called a wild goose chase up and tawn— called a wild goose chase up and tawn tne— called a wild goose chase up and down the same— called a wild goose chase up and down the same street for a sa—sattet — down the same street for a so—called two _ down the same street for a so—called two hours to try and attsn— so—called two hours to try and attsn tne— so—called two hours to try and ditch the press— so—called two hours to try and ditch the press ,— so—called two hours to try and ditch the press , a— so—called two hours to try and ditch the press , a journey that ditch the press, a journey that tnew— ditch the press, a journey that they- described - ditch the press, a journey that they described near they later described as near catastrophic.— they later described as near catastrophic. their spokesperson sata— catastrophic. their spokesperson sata tetng— catastrophic. their spokesperson sata tetng a— catastrophic. their spokesperson said being a public figure comes wttn— said being a public figure comes wttn a— said being a public figure comes wttn a revet— said being a public figure comes with a level of— said being a public figure comes with a level of interest from tne— with a level of interest from tne putts. — with a level of interest from the public. it— with a level of interest from the public. it should never come at tne— the public. it should never come at tte sast— the public. it should never come at tte sast at— the public. it should never come at the cost of anyone's safety . at the cost of anyone's safety. however, eyewitnesses are santtntng— however, eyewitnesses are confirming what i suspected all atang— confirming what i suspected all atang tne— confirming what i suspected all atang tne reat— confirming what i suspected all along the real catastrophe would nave— along the real catastrophe would have more potentially likely teen— have more potentially likely been created _ have more potentially likely been created by— have more potentially likely been created by their own seswttw— been created by their own security dodi _ been created by their own security dodi driving badly . why security dodi driving badly. why on security dodi driving badly. why an eartn— security dodi driving badly. why on earth would— security dodi driving badly. why on earth would you drive up and tawn— on earth would you drive up and tawn tne— on earth would you drive up and down the wrong— on earth would you drive up and down the wrong side of the same stretsn— down the wrong side of the same stretsn at— down the wrong side of the same stretch of road— down the wrong side of the same stretch of road repeatedly? if we— stretch of road repeatedly? if we trwtng— stretch of road repeatedly? if we trwtng ta— stretch of road repeatedly? if you're trying to escape, which if i you're trying to escape, which t t wttness— you're trying to escape, which if i witness reports are to be tettewet— if i witness reports are to be tettewet ts— if i witness reports are to be believed is what— if i witness reports are to be believed is what they did? even the believed is what they did? even tte trawar— believed is what they did? even tte trawar at— believed is what they did? even the mayor of new— believed is what they did? even the mayor of new york seemed to be the mayor of new york seemed to te—tettewe- the mayor of new york seemed to be_believe their- be struggling to believe their

estn- t- be struggling to believe their version-. i wouldl be struggling to believe their. version-. i would find version of events. i would find it hard to believe that there was a two hour high speed chase that would be, i find it hard to believe, but although to be fair to the couple, they never actually mentioned the words high speed. that's because it's trettw— high speed. that's because it's trettw ntst— “ g“ 2 that's because it's pretty much impossible in new wart.— pretty much impossible in new wart. suretw— pretty much impossible in new york. surely they— pretty much impossible in new york. surely they could have got out york. surely they could have got at at— york. surely they could have got at at tne— york. surely they could have got out of the car— york. surely they could have got out of the car and— york. surely they could have got out of the car and gone into a venue or perhaps— out of the car and gone into a venue or perhaps seeing as they regute— venue or perhaps seeing as they regute tne— venue or perhaps seeing as they require the press— venue or perhaps seeing as they require the press for their ttnanstat— require the press for their financial survival , they could financial survival, they could nawe — financial survival, they could nawe aane— financial survival, they could have done what— financial survival, they could have done what most celebs do ant— have done what most celebs do and tase— have done what most celebs do and tase tar— have done what most celebs do and tase tar a— have done what most celebs do and pose for a few— have done what most celebs do and pose for a few pictures. i tnat— and pose for a few pictures. i mean, that would— and pose for a few pictures. i mean, that would have been the ent— mean, that would have been the entltt— mean, that would have been the end-it. instead,— mean, that would have been the end it. instead, this end of it. instead, after this sa—sattet— end of it. instead, after this so—called chase,- end of it. instead, after this so—called chase, they got into a tuttw— so—called chase, they got into a twttw eataset — so—called chase, they got into a fully exposed yellow new york cab fully exposed yellow new york sat . — fully exposed yellow new york sat . ttt— fully exposed yellow new york sat . ttt tt— fully exposed yellow new york cab . did it feel— fully exposed yellow new york cab . did it feel like- fully exposed yellow new york cab . “j 2 e �*722. l cab. did it feel like the paparazzi were being aggressive? no, no, no, no, no . they were no, no, no, no, no. they were tentna— no, no, no, no, no. they were tentnt us— no, no, no, no, no. they were tentnt t— no, no, no, no, no. they were behind us. i mean,- no, no, no, no, no. they were behind us. i mean, they stayed on behind us. i mean, they stayed an tat— behind us. i mean, they stayed an tat at— behind us. i mean, they stayed an tat at us— behind us. i mean, they stayed on top of us. that— behind us. i mean, they stayed on top of us. that was pretty ntst— on top of us. that was pretty n-was- on top of us. that was pretty much was nothing on top of us. that was pretty- much _was nothing more. much it. there was nothing more. you much it. there was nothing more. tau—tett— much it. there was nothing more. tau—tett a— much it. there was nothing more. you—kept a distance. you know, they kept a distance. it's you know, they kept a distance. tt-s rast— you know, they kept a distance. it's just journalists, just you know, they kept a distance. it's everybody urnalists, just you know, they kept a distance. it's everybody else, sts, just you know, they kept a distance. it's everybody else, tryingst you know, they kept a distance. it's pictures dy else, tryingst you know, they kept a distance. it's pictures ,y else, tryingst you know, they kept a distance. it's pictures , make. tryingst you know, they kept a distance. it's pictures , make aryingst you know, they kept a distance. it's pictures , make a quickt get pictures, make a quick buck . t— get pictures, make a quick buck . t mean— get pictures, make a quick buck . t tte— get pictures, make a quick buck . i mean, the whole- get pictures, make a quick buck . i mean, the whole thing was a joke . and if we are to draw joke. and if we are to draw parallels to what happened to diana, it seemed harry was

diana, which it seemed harry was alluding to in one of the things that said . and then, yes, her that he said. and then, yes, her accident was caused by a bad driving wasn't helped by driving that wasn't helped by mainly french paparazzi , by mainly the french paparazzi, by the way. a driver was also the way. but a driver was also drunk. i it seems the drunk. i mean, it seems the british press aren't all that bad, are they? and that's not allowed here. it's how are you going to blame the british press who hates? they did attempt who he hates? they did attempt to on their litigious hat to put on their litigious hat and demand that back with and demand that that back with the us picture agency involved in the near catastrophic car chase to hand over the images of them when and this was the response that they met in america as i'm sure you know, property belongs to the owner of it. third parties cannot just demand it to be given to them as perhaps kings can do . they went perhaps kings can do. they went on to say , perhaps you should on to say, perhaps you should sit down with your client and advise them that his english rules of royal prerogative lviv to demand that the citizenry president xi hand the citizens aren't going to get their citizenry hand over their property to the crown were

rejected by this country long ago. we stand by our founding fathers . well, that's the polite fathers. well, that's the polite way of putting it, i'm afraid the americans aren't buying their hogwash either . the americans aren't buying their hogwash either. a frog and citizens. i still can't say. but before we get stuck into the debate, here's what else is coming up today for the great british this hour, i'm british debate. this hour, i'm asking policies asking, are labour's policies putting off ? labour leader putting you off? labour leader sir starmer has said that sir keir starmer has said that he to build he would like to build a stronger trading relationship he would like to build a stronthe trading relationship he would like to build a stronthe tra(if|g relationship he would like to build a stronthe tra(if he elationship he would like to build a stronthe tra(if he winstnship he would like to build a stronthe tra(if he wins theip he would like to build a stronthe tra(if he wins the keys with the eu if he wins the keys to number 10 and has announced that he would build the green that he would build on the green belt the housing belt and improve the housing crisis. do these policies crisis. but do these policies sit right with you? then, at 450, it's royal roundup time and royal biographer angela levin will studio to give will be in the studio to give all all the latest from all us all the latest from behind palace walls. prince behind the palace walls. prince harry meghan under harry and meghan have come under fire were fire after claiming they were involved speed car involved in a high speed car chase, although never used chase, although they never used the word high speed and according the couple according to reports, the couple have photo according to reports, the couple have to photo according to reports, the couple have to share photo according to reports, the couple have to share images photo according to reports, the couple have to share images of photo according to reports, the couple have to share images of the oto agency to share images of the incident. then, at five, it's

this week's difficult conversation . i'll be meeting a conversation. i'll be meeting a man who banks to pay for man who robbed banks to pay for his wife's ivf treatment after racking of almost racking up debts of almost a quarter of £1 million. reid domingo will be joining me to discuss and that's all coming up in the hour. as ever, tell in the next hour. as ever, tell me think everything me what you think on everything we're email we're discussing. email gbviews@gbnews.uk or tweet me at . gb news. that's a very briefly before we do this, very briefly , really good to see my panellists again . what do you panellists again. what do you think, lizzie cundy, very quickly, your thoughts on meghan and and meghan and harry? and harry and meghan and harry? well, more for well, here we go. more for their next— well, here we go. more for their next _obviously. - well, here we go. more for their next obviously. “ well, here we go. more for theiri next-obviously..mean , next flicks, obviously. i mean, i next flicks, obviously. i mean, t-we— next flicks, obviously. i mean, t-we ttt— next flicks, obviously. i mean, t-we ttt tte- next flicks, obviously. i mean, i we hit the brakes on i just can we hit the brakes on this because i'm sick this literally because i'm sick of us not getting the truth . of us not getting the truth. we're getting the near truth. they never tell the truth. these two. and it's all for publicity . they're like the kardashians with coronets. and i've just had enough of it. i really have. i'm sick to death of them. and i'm very sad because no one else is believing this story. even the

mayor of london, who we've just seen, the new york police every one doesn't believe it. what do you think, peter? well, the mayor you think, peter? well, the trawarlwew— you think, peter? well, the mayor. new york- 3”22227 well, the mayor new york poured cold mayor of new york poured cold water— mayor of new york poured cold water an— mayor of new york poured cold water an t— mayor of new york poured cold water on it pretty— mayor of new york poured cold water on it pretty quickly, and he water on it pretty quickly, and ne ttt— water on it pretty quickly, and ne ttt sa— water on it pretty quickly, and he did solfactual- water on it pretty quickly, and he did so factual terms, he did so in factual terms, sawtng— he did so in factual terms, sawtng-na- he did so in factual terms,- saying-no collusion , saying there was no collusion, no arrests, damage, no no arrests, no damage, no tntwtes— no arrests, no damage, no tntwtes .— no arrests, no damage, no injuries , thankfully. think injuries, thankfully. so i think it's injuries, thankfully. so i think tt-s stear— injuries, thankfully. so i think tt-s stear tt— injuries, thankfully. so i think it's clear it was not a near catastrophic. but i do understand- catastrophic. but i do understand if- i ti. but i do understand if you're a prince ant— understand if you're a prince and waw— understand if you're a prince and your mother— understand if you're a prince and your mother has been killed in and your mother has been killed tn a— and your mother has been killed tn a sat— and your mother has been killed in a road accident— and your mother has been killed in a road accident in 1997, you tnaw— in a road accident in 1997, you tnaw .— in a road accident in 1997, you tnaw . tnat-s— in a road accident in 1997, you know , that's an— in a road accident in 1997, you know , that's an horrific thing know, that's an horrific thing to know, that's an horrific thing ta ga— know, that's an horrific thing ta ga tnrawgn— know, that's an horrific thing to go through and that'll stay wttn— to go through and that'll stay wttn vou— to go through and that'll stay with you forever.— to go through and that'll stay with you forever. i can with you forever. so i can understand— with you forever. so i can understand why your reaction with you forever. so i can urwould nd why your reaction with you forever. so i can urwould be why your reaction with you forever. so i can urwould be very/our reaction with you forever. so i can urwould be very heightenedi with you forever. so i can urwould be very heightened , but it would be very heightened, but you—going— it would be very heightened, but wau—gatng an-tti you can't keep going on about it tarewerlwaue — you can't keep going on about it forever,-you? i— you can't keep going on about it forever, you? 2 you can't keep going on about it forever, you? “ forever, can you? i mean, you can't compare it. why forever, can you? i“ e 22“ 222 e why wouldn't can't compare it. why wouldn't waw— can't compare it. why wouldn't watt-tnat-s— can't compare it. why wouldn't you?-that's-harshl you? i think that's a bit harin to you? i think that's a bit harsh ta — you? i think that's a bit harsh ta lawn-t— you? i think that's a bit harsh to use. idon't think- you? i think that's a bit harsh to use. 22“ e to use. i don't think it's harsh. i think it's premature loss of your mother. no, i think you these you can't continue to make these comparisons know, comparisons like this. you know, at some point, you must try and have closure within have some closure within yourself move yourself so that you can move forward. think that if you forward. and i think that if you continue a scab. if continue to it's like a scab. if you this wound, continue to it's like a scab. if you i this wound, continue to it's like a scab. if you i don't this wound, continue to it's like a scab. if you i don't think this wound, continue to it's like a scab. if you i don't think there'llivound, then i don't think there'll be much in my much healing for him. so in my view, yes, it's very, view, i think, yes, it's very, very and you really need to very sad. and you really need to try forward. and this try and move forward. and this this is almost away

this hate is almost eating away at but but he has and this at them. but but he has and this could prevented if could have been prevented if they a couple of, you they just did a couple of, you know, for photos with the outside this would have outside, this would never have happened. and compare happened. and you cannot compare this happened. and you cannot compare tnts ta— happened. and you cannot compare this to princess— happened. and you cannot compare this to princess diana's— 2 and you cannot compare this to princess diana's crash ane-ttgtt.— this to princess diana's crash one-right. well,- this to princess diana's crash one-right. well, todayl this to princess diana's crashi one-right. well, today , this to princess diana's crash- one-right. well, today , our one bit. right. well, today, our top of course, phillip top story is, of course, phillip schofield and stepping schofield, and he's stepping down morning with down from this morning with immediate effect. the year down from this morning with imnjoinedt effect. the year down from this morning with imnjoined itvact. the year down from this morning with imnjoined itv in. the year down from this morning with imnjoined itv in 22,002. year down from this morning with imnjoined itv in 22,002. heir old joined itv in 22,002. he presented his last show on thursday and has stepped down after some 20 years. so joining me is tv personality and regular on this morning, kim woodburn . on this morning, kim woodburn. kim, thank you so much. thank you so much forjoining us. oh, you're welcome. so, kim, what's your response to this news? well, i think it's not before time. i think he i think he reattses— time. i think he i think he realises his— e i think he i think he realises his position is untenable.— realises his position is untenable. i- realises his position is untenable. i think he you know, nes— untenable. i think he you know, we tset— untenable. i think he you know, he's used common— untenable. i think he you know, he's used common sense at last ant— he's used common sense at last and nes— he's used common sense at last and we nes— he's used common sense at last and he's he's gone— he's used common sense at last and he's he's gone .— he's used common sense at last and he's he's gone . it's the and he's he's gone. it's the ntgnt— and he's he's gone. it's the rtgnt tttng— and he's he's gone. it's the rtgnt tntng ta— and he's he's gone. it's the right thing to do. well excuse ttn. — right thing to do. well excuse me, kim. you've— right thing to do. well excuse me, kim. /t2t. “ 2“ me, kim. you've been on this morning, though, and you've. i have. what was it like with

working with him? well to tell you the truth , the confidence he you the truth, the confidence he had, you could tell he was king of the road on that show . i of the road on that show. i mean, he was really he ruling tne— mean, he was really he ruling tte raast— mean, he was really he ruling the roost and— mean, he was really he ruling the roost and whenever i've been on the roost and whenever i've been an wttn— the roost and whenever i've been an wttn ntn — the roost and whenever i've been an wttn ntn .— the roost and whenever i've been on with him , he— the roost and whenever i've been on with him , he hasn't been very on with him, he hasn't been very tteasant— on with him, he hasn't been very tteasant .— on with him, he hasn't been very tteasant . ana— on with him, he hasn't been very pleasant . and he— on with him, he hasn't been very pleasant . and he wasn't pleasant pleasant. and he wasn't pleasant to pleasant. and he wasn't pleasant ta ne— pleasant. and he wasn't pleasant ta ttegarttng— pleasant. and he wasn't pleasant to me. regarding my experience of to me. regarding my experience at ttg— to me. regarding my experience at ttg trattet— to me. regarding my experience of big brother, he— to me. regarding my experience of big brother, he was downright nastw— of big brother, he was downright nastw ant— of big brother, he was downright nastw and ne— of big brother, he was downright nasty and he was— of big brother, he was downright nasty and he was literally tawgntng— nasty and he was literally tawgntng at— nasty and he was literally laughing at me. you had at me ant— laughing at me. you had at me and t— laughing at me. you had at me and t nat— laughing at me. you had at me and t tat tne— laughing at me. you had at me and i had the teacher asked me, wnat— and i had the teacher asked me, wnat ttt— and i had the teacher asked me, wnat ttt wat— and i had the teacher asked me, what did you earn?— and i had the teacher asked me, what did you earn? and i said , what did you earn? and i said, tts— what did you earn? and i said, tt-s nane— what did you earn? and i said, tt-s at— what did you earn? and i said, it's none of your— what did you earn? and i said, it's none of your business. what did it's none of your business. what ttt vou— it's none of your business. what ttt wau ean— it's none of your business. what did you earn? what do you earn for did you earn? what do you earn tar tnts— did you earn? what do you earn for this show?— did you earn? what do you earn for this show? this— did you earn? what do you earn for this show? this is not your tstness — for this show? this is not your business. and— for this show? this is not your business. and precisely, philip, i business. and precisely, philip, t sata— business. and precisely, philip, t satt. teet— business. and precisely, philip, i said, keep your— business. and precisely, philip, i said, keep your place. i'm sarrw— i said, keep your place. i'm sarrw .— i said, keep your place. i'm sarrw . vau— i said, keep your place. i'm sorry . you know,- i said, keep your place. i'm sorry . you know, he's used sorry. you know, he's used common sense— sorry. you know, he's used common sense and gone. the games— common sense and gone. the games un— common sense and gone. the game's up. everything's out ataut— game's up. everything's out ataut ntn — game's up. everything's out ataut ntn .— game's up. everything's out about him . it's— game's up. everything's out about him . it's all been about him. it's all been eataset.— about him. it's all been exposed. he's- about him. it's all been exposed. he's he's gone now. the antw— exposed. he's he's gone now. the antw tttng— exposed. he's he's gone now. the antw tntng tn— exposed. he's he's gone now. the only thing i'm praying and nattng— only thing i'm praying and nattng naw— only thing i'm praying and hoping now is— only thing i'm praying and hoping now is that young miss tattw— hoping now is that young miss holly willoughby gets the common ta— holly willoughby gets the common ta ga— holly willoughby gets the common sense to go because— holly willoughby gets the common sense to go because she's not wanted.— sense to go because she's not wanted. sne— sense to go because she's not wanted. she is.— sense to go because she's not wanted. she is. she cannot santtnue— wanted. she is. she cannot santtnue .— wanted. she is. she cannot continue . do— wanted. she is. she cannot continue . do you think a phil, continue. do you think a phil, vou— continue. do you think a phil, wau tttnt— continue. do you think a phil, wan tttnt at— continue. do you think a phil,

you think of holly and she's all tnese— you think of holly and she's all tnese wears— you think of holly and she's all these years she's— you think of holly and she's all these years she's worked with him— these years she's worked with ntn. sne-s— these years she's worked with him, she's heard— these years she's worked with him, she's heard his rudeness. sne-s— him, she's heard his rudeness. sne-s tn— him, she's heard his rudeness. she's in front— him, she's heard his rudeness. she's in front of— him, she's heard his rudeness. she's in front of people. she's ntn — she's in front of people. she's ntn an— she's in front of people. she's seen him on the— she's in front of people. she's seen him on the sofa, upsetting teattte— seen him on the sofa, upsetting teatte .— seen him on the sofa, upsetting teatte . t— seen him on the sofa, upsetting teatte . r wattt— seen him on the sofa, upsetting people . i would have appreciated people. i would have appreciated on people. i would have appreciated an rast— people. i would have appreciated an tust ane— people. i would have appreciated on just one occasion, which has nattenea. — on just one occasion, which has never happened. if— on just one occasion, which has never happened. if she would ever turn around— never happened. if she would ever turn around and say to tttttt— ever turn around and say to tttttt an— ever turn around and say to philip on that— ever turn around and say to philip on that sofa as his co—presenter,_ philip on that sofa as his co—presenter, philip, oh, i tntnt— co—presenter, philip, oh, i tntnt wattt— co—presenter, philip, oh, i think you'd be— co—presenter, philip, oh, i think you'd be in a bit naughty. so think you'd be in a bit naughty. sa-sautt— think you'd be in a bit naughty. sa-sautt-tt— think you'd be in a bit naughty. so-could-it nicely.- so she could put it nicely. i tttnt— so she could put it nicely. i tntnt wae— so she could put it nicely. i think you're being a bit naughty so she could put it nicely. i thi a: you're being a bit naughty so she could put it nicely. i thi a person. being a bit naughty so she could put it nicely. i thi a person. sheg a bit naughty so she could put it nicely. i thi a person. she has3it naughty so she could put it nicely. i thi a person. she has neverighty so she could put it nicely. i thi a person. she has never once as a person. she has never once staat— as a person. she has never once staat up— as a person. she has never once staat up tar— as a person. she has never once stood up for some— as a person. she has never once stood up for some of these wtsetttng. — stood up for some of these upsetting. she— stood up for some of these upsetting. she sat there with a ttttte— upsetting. she sat there with a ttttte stttw— upsetting. she sat there with a little silly grin— upsetting. she sat there with a little silly grin on— upsetting. she sat there with a little silly grin on her face or a nant— little silly grin on her face or a nant an— little silly grin on her face or a hand on his— little silly grin on her face or a hand on his shoulder. oh, tttttn— a hand on his shoulder. oh, tntttt. tnat— a hand on his shoulder. oh, philip, that is— a hand on his shoulder. oh, philip, that is not presenter philip, that is not a presenter . sne-s— philip, that is not a presenter . sne-s nat— philip, that is not a presenter . sne-s nat a— philip, that is not a presenter . she's not a good presenter . . she's not a good presenter. ana— . she's not a good presenter. ana tt— . she's not a good presenter. ana tt sne— . she's not a good presenter. and if she thinks— . she's not a good presenter. and if she thinks she can run tnat— and if she thinks she can run tnat snaw— and if she thinks she can run that show without philip . oh, that show without philip. oh, sne— that show without philip. oh, sne sant— that show without philip. oh, she can't. she— that show without philip. oh, she can't. she needs to go. wett— she can't. she needs to go. well, obviously,— she can't. she needs to go. well, obviously, she's. - she can't. she needs to go. well, obviously, she's. they're not here to defend themselves, but i'm assuming of opinion to you. i think they've been on there for too long. they've sat on that sofa gathering dust for many years and it's time to give some a chance. many years and it's time to give soryou a chance. many years and it's time to give soryou think a chance. many years and it's time to give soryou think that a chance. many years and it's time to give soryou think that perhaps ce. do you think that perhaps they should sooner, though? should have gone sooner, though? because remember qg8 i mean, i was to leave was expecting them to leave then, managed cling

then, but they managed to cling on. well, they have clung for on nanw— on. well, they have clung for on nanw weas — on. well, they have clung for on nanw weas |was— 2“ well, they have clung for on many years. was shocked many years. i was very shocked tease— many years. i was very shocked. because the queen of england was nett— because the queen of england was tett-ntgn— because the queen of england was held-high regard.— because the queen of england was held high regard. our queen held in high regard. our queen tttzatett— held in high regard. our queen elizabeth, the— held in high regard. our queen elizabeth, the second she was a true— elizabeth, the second she was a true queen— elizabeth, the second she was a true queen blesser_ elizabeth, the second she was a true queen blesser and i could not understand— true queen blesser and i could not understand for the life of ne— not understand for the life of ne wnen— not understand for the life of ne wnen tnew— not understand for the life of me when they sneaked in me when they both sneaked in weartng— me when they both sneaked in weartng tress— me when they both sneaked in wearing press tags , cutting wearing press tags, cutting tne— wearing press tags, cutting across the grass, tiptoeing across, and people in queues in wneetsnatrs— across, and people in queues in wheelchairs. i've— across, and people in queues in wheelchairs. i've been there six naws — wheelchairs. i've been there six naws ant— wheelchairs. i've been there six hours. and what— wheelchairs. i've been there six hours. and what holly holly was sawtng— hours. and what holly holly was sawtng ant— hours. and what holly holly was sawtng ant tnt— hours. and what holly holly was saying and phil was saying to the saying and phil was saying to tte tuttts— saying and phil was saying to tne twttts ts— saying and phil was saying to the public is we— saying and phil was saying to the public is we are very tntartant— the public is we are very tntartant .— the public is we are very important . we- the public is we are very important . we can sneak in, important. we can sneak in, wntsn— important. we can sneak in, wntsn ts— important. we can sneak in, which is which— important. we can sneak in, which is which is- important. we can sneak in, which is which is precisely what tnew— which is which is precisely what tnew ttt— which is which is precisely what tnew ttt .— which is which is precisely what tnew ttt . tt— which is which is precisely what they did . it was— which is which is precisely what they did . it was rotten. it was they did. it was rotten. it was ratten— they did. it was rotten. it was ratten ta— they did. it was rotten. it was rotten to the _ they did. it was rotten. it was rotten to the people that they tnew-re— rotten to the people that they they're watching _ rotten to the people that they they're watching every morning. it they're watching every morning. rt was— they're watching every morning. rt tnere— they're watching every morning. it was there was— they're watching every morning. it was there was nothing . they it was there was nothing. they ratten — it was there was nothing. they were rotten saying we are holly ant— were rotten saying we are holly and ttt.— were rotten saying we are holly and ttt. we— were rotten saying we are holly and phil, we can— were rotten saying we are holly and phil, we can do what we tte.— and phil, we can do what we tte. ana— and phil, we can do what we tte. ana wat— and phil, we can do what we like. and you stand there getttng— like. and you stand there getting soaked in your wheelchairs- getting soaked in your wheelchairs . we're far too wheelchairs. we're far too grant.— wheelchairs. we're far too grant. tn— wheelchairs. we're far too grand. i'm surprised they didn't go grand. i'm surprised they didn't ga tnen. — grand. i'm surprised they didn't ga tnen. wett— grand. i'm surprised they didn't go then. well. well,- grand. i'm surprised they didn't go then. �*iftt�*r2cc �*xwtr2cc 23222ch go then. well. well, exactly. kim you would have thought they did. but as i said, they're not here to defend themselves. but kim, for your kim, thank you so much for your thoughts. very thoughts. as kim, you're very well. you're very welcome. thank wan— well. you're very welcome. thank wan-tarwara— well. you're very welcome. thank wan-tarwart ta— you're very welcome. thank you. forward to speaking you. look forward to speaking to

wan — you. look forward to speaking to wan _saan- you. look forward to speaking to wan _saan as| you. speaking to you soon as well. carry with well. well, let's carry on with this i'm quite this story because i'm quite enjoying is enjoying it. joining me now is media commentator pauley . media commentator nigel pauley. nigel, are nigel, you're not poorly, are you well, aren't you? well, aren't you? i couldn't resist . no, just not couldn't resist. no, just not just not finding that funny. he's heard it before. you've heard you? heard it before, haven't you? i haven't heard that before. haven't heard that one before. no. really. oh my god. that's an artgtnat— no. really. oh my god. that's an artgtnat .— no. really. oh my god. that's an original . content from me. nigel original. content from me. nigel what do you think about this? and your on this? and what's your view on this? well i. i like kim woodburn very must.— well i. i like kim woodburn very nusn. tawet— well i. i like kim woodburn very much. loved her— well i. i like kim woodburn very much. loved her on— �*iftt�*t2cc i like kim woodburn very much. loved her on the programs , much. loved her on the programs . tut— much. loved her on the programs . tut t— much. loved her on the programs . tut t ttsagree— much. loved her on the programs , but i disagree with her. astuattw— , but i disagree with her. actually phil— , but i disagree with her. actually phil phillip schofield was actually phil phillip schofield gatng— actually phil phillip schofield gatng ta— actually phil phillip schofield was going to leave this show. tnere-s— was going to leave this show. tnere-s na— was going to leave this show. there's no doubt— was going to leave this show. there's no doubt about it. i'm swtrtset— there's no doubt about it. i'm swrtrtsea at— there's no doubt about it. i'm surprised at how— there's no doubt about it. i'm surprised at how quickly he's tett.— surprised at how quickly he's tett. tnt— surprised at how quickly he's left. and from _ surprised at how quickly he's left. and from his statement, it appears— left. and from his statement, it appears tnat— left. and from his statement, it appears tnat ne— left. and from his statement, it appears that he was probably tratttea— appears that he was probably prodded rather— appears that he was probably prodded rather than he jumped tease— prodded rather than he jumped tease nes— prodded rather than he jumped because he's saying this narntng— because he's saying this morning, think it's the story ant— morning, think it's the story and whatever— morning, think it's the story and whatever .— morning, think it's the story and whatever . so clearly he's and whatever. so clearly he's teen— and whatever. so clearly he's teen twtttng— and whatever. so clearly he's been putting in— and whatever. so clearly he's been putting in an untenable tastttan— been putting in an untenable tastttan. te— been putting in an untenable position. he was— been putting in an untenable position. he was the story . he position. he was the story. he saws— position. he was the story. he saws tnat— position. he was the story. he saws tnat tnts— position. he was the story. he says that this morning has tese— says that this morning has tese tne— says that this morning has become the story . it was him who become the story. it was him who teses— become the story. it was him who teses starw— become the story. it was him who becomes story where i disagree wttn— becomes story where i disagree wttn wttn— becomes story where i disagree wttn wttn t— becomes story where i disagree with with i mean,— becomes story where i disagree with with i mean, yes, i've seen tne— with with i mean, yes, i've seen tte atner— with with i mean, yes, i've seen the other side— with with i mean, yes, i've seen the other side of— with with i mean, yes, i've seen the other side of philip schofield— the other side of philip schofield and i've seen the

atten— schofield and i've seen the atner state— schofield and i've seen the other side of— schofield and i've seen the other side of television personalities. - other side of television personalities. mean , you know, personalities. i mean, you know, tnew-re— personalities. i mean, you know, tnew-re nat— personalities. i mean, you know, they're not what— personalities. i mean, you know, they're not what see on they're not what you see on screen - disagree - they're not what you see on screen disagree is i screen where i disagree is i tttnt— screen where i disagree is i tttnt tattw— screen where i disagree is i think holly does need to stay wttn— think holly does need to stay wttn tne— think holly does need to stay with the show. _ think holly does need to stay with the show. i— think holly does need to stay with the show. i think she's teen— with the show. i think she's teen tn— with the show. i think she's teen tn nts— with the show. i think she's been in his shadow for too long ant— been in his shadow for too long and t— been in his shadow for too long and t tttnt— been in his shadow for too long and i think she's— been in his shadow for too long and i think she's a— been in his shadow for too long and i think she's a very good presenter— and i think she's a very good presenter tn— and i think she's a very good presenter in her— and i think she's a very good presenter in her own right. and now can have the— presenter in her own right. and now can have the chance as a tenate— now can have the chance as a tenate tn— now can have the chance as a tenate tn ner— now can have the chance as a female in her 40s— now can have the chance as a female in her 40s or early 40s to female in her 40s or early 40s ta astuattw— female in her 40s or early 40s to actually shine— female in her 40s or early 40s to actually shine ,— female in her 40s or early 40s to actually shine , possibly with to actually shine, possibly with anatner— to actually shine, possibly with another female _ to actually shine, possibly with another female ,— to actually shine, possibly with another female , perhaps with another female, perhaps with attsan— another female, perhaps with alison hammond. that's what ta— alison hammond. that's what ta te— alison hammond. that's what seems to be the— alison hammond. that's what seems to be the way they're going— seems to be the way they're going .— seems to be the way they're gatng . ant— seems to be the way they're gatng . and t— seems to be the way they're going, and i think they can transtarn — going, and i think they can transform the— going, and i think they can transform the show and turned it aant— transform the show and turned it atunt ant— transform the show and turned it around and soften— transform the show and turned it around and soften it. i think i tttnt— around and soften it. i think i tttnt tut— around and soften it. i think i tttnt tut t— around and soften it. i think i think but i think— around and soften it. i think i think but i think this they were wnen— think but i think this they were wnen tne— think but i think this they were when the after— think but i think this they were when the after as— think but i think this they were when the after as kim said, when tnew— when the after as kim said, when tnew tentet— when the after as kim said, when tnew jumped tne— when the after as kim said, when they jumped the queue . i they jumped the queue. i understand— they jumped the queue. i understand that holly was very anntwet— understand that holly was very annoyed tnat— understand that holly was very annoyed that they weren't atttwet— annoyed that they weren't atttwet to — annoyed that they weren't allowed to speak out and defend ttensetwes— allowed to speak out and defend themselves. they— allowed to speak out and defend themselves. they put out a bland statement.— themselves. they put out a bland statenent. t— themselves. they put out a bland statement. i think— themselves. they put out a bland statement. i think she wanted to go twttts— statement. i think she wanted to go twttts wttn— statement. i think she wanted to go public with explaining exasttw— go public with explaining exasttw wnw— go public with explaining exactly why they appeared to jump— exactly why they appeared to jump tte — exactly why they appeared to jump the queue. / exactly why they appeared to jump the queue. “22“ exactly why they appeared to jump the queue. / jump the queue. yeah, but she she made the statement. she put out a statement which was actually, i thought, added actually, i thought, just added fuel don't think fuel to the fire. i don't think it particularly good it was a particularly good statement. she said was

statement. and what she said was that a statement was put that i think a statement was put out in her name. i don't know wnetner— out in her name. i don't know wetter-sne- out in her name. i don't know whether-she. it- out in her name. i don't know whether-she. it was. out in her name. i don't know. whether-she. it was her whether that was she. it was her vase— whether that was she. it was her ner— whether that was she. it was her voice was her voice. c voice was her voice. that wasn't it. it. you know, it. she voiced it. so, you know, that's the thing. i can't i know sometimes you're told. you're told you're told to— sometimes you're told. you're told you're told to you- 22 you're told you're told to you can't absorb— told you're told to you can't absorb the. _ told you're told to you can't absorb the. well,- told you're told to you can't absorb the. 32222 2 told you're told to you can't- absorb the. well, maybe, but you can't absolve yourself of all responsibility for going along with it. i thought they were appalling. — with it. i thought they were appalling. |— 2 i thought they were appalling. i thought i thought that— appalling. i thought i thought that wa— appalling. i thought i thought that ahe— appalling. i thought i thought that was the end of them. when they— that was the end of them. when they-that— that was the end of them. when they-that .— that was the end of them. when they-that . people,- that was the end of them. when they that . people, as kim they did that. people, as kim had— they did that. people, as kim had-had— they did that. people, as kim had-had queued- they did that. people, as kim had had queued for six had said, had queued for six hours— had said, had queued for six hours disabled— had said, had queued for six hours disabled people. it was shocking.— hours disabled people. it was shocking. au— hours disabled people. it was shocking. all i'm— hours disabled people. it was shocking. all i'm saying is i understand— shocking. all i'm saying is i understand inside this morning camp— understand inside this morning camp thera— understand inside this morning camp there were— understand inside this morning camp there were some disagreeing about— camp there were some disagreeing ataat taw— camp there were some disagreeing ataat tow tt— camp there were some disagreeing about how it was— camp there were some disagreeing about how it was handled attetwats— about how it was handled afterwards and- about how it was handled afterwards and how some of those statements— afterwards and how some of those statements went— afterwards and how some of those statements went out . well, and statements went out. well, and ttstaty— statements went out. well, and ttstaty-say— statements went out. well, and ttstaty-say tts- statements went out. well, and history say it's probably history would say it's probably on history would say it's probably ttt-atta— history would say it's probably on-side because- history would say it's probably on side because she's still on my side because she's still wttt— on my side because she's still wttt-aat— on my side because she's still with-and philip- on my side because she's still with and philip isn't. with the show and philip isn't. so, with the show and philip isn't. sat-know— with the show and philip isn't. sa-taaw .— with the show and philip isn't. so,-know . well,- with the show and philip isn't. so, know . well, we'll see so, you know. well, we'll see taw— so, you know. well, we'll see how-tension - so, you know. well, we'll see how-tension ,- so, you know. well, we'll see how-tension , the. how long the tension, the teastaa— how long the tension, the teastaa-aa- how long the tension, the tension on with his brother tension went on with his brother appaattag— tension went on with his brother appaattag ta— tension went on with his brother appearing in court— tension went on with his brother appearing in court. he was sentenced— appearing in court. he was sentenced to— appearing in court. he was sentenced to 12— appearing in court. he was sentenced to 12 years yesterday . ant— sentenced to 12 years yesterday . ant agatn,— sentenced to 12 years yesterday . and again, she— sentenced to 12 years yesterday . and again, she found out when the an— . and again, she found out when the sun phoned— . and again, she found out when the sun phoned her up in the events;— the sun phoned her up in the evening about— the sun phoned her up in the evening about 6:00, uh, rather

than— evening about 6:00, uh, rather than tram— evening about 6:00, uh, rather than from him.— evening about 6:00, uh, rather than from him. so— evening about 6:00, uh, rather than from him. so that's not a date— than from him. so that's not a close relation— than from him. so that's not a close relation ship, is it.7 ttett,— close relation ship, is it.7 ttett, you— close relation ship, is it.7 well, you know . w222 2 222" well, you know. well, listen, it's really good to talk to you, nigel. nigel pauley. he's not poorly. he's well. thank you very much, nigel. it's really good to talk to you. this is news. welcome on board. if you just tuned in, we've been discussing all the shenanigans. phillip schofield has stepped down we'll be talking down from itv. we'll be talking about that throughout the show . about that throughout the show. if in, if you've just tuned in, welcome. akua. we're welcome. i'm nana akua. we're live gb news. now, live here on gb news. now, coming up at 5:00, it's this week's difficult conversation. coming up at 5:00, it's this weekimaginellt conversation. coming up at 5:00, it's this weekimagine rackingersation. coming up at 5:00, it's this weekimagine racking uption. coming up at 5:00, it's this weekimagine racking up over now imagine racking up over a quarter of £1 million to pay for ivf , ivf treatment and ivf, ivf treatment and then having alternative , but then having no alternative, but then to to a life of crime to to turn to a life of crime to pay to turn to a life of crime to pay for that. read domingo will be joining me in on the to be joining me in on the sofa to tell his amazing story in difficult . but difficult conversation. but coming the great coming up next, it's the great british debate this hour. and i'm you are labour's i'm asking, are you are labour's policies putting you off.7 labour leader starmer has said policies putting you off.7 labour lead he starmer has said policies putting you off.7 labour lead he would starmer has said policies putting you off.7 labour lead he would like �*mer has said policies putting you off.7 labour lead he would like toer has said that he would like to build a stronger trading relationship with but does this with the eu, but does this undermine do you undermine brexit.7 what do you

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the tatt— think? do you believe that he's the right person— think? do you believe that he's the right person to deliver these?— the right person to deliver these? oo— the right person to deliver these? do you— the right person to deliver these? do you believe that these are these? do you believe that these 9°0d_ these? do you believe that these good was— these? do you believe that these are good plans to— these? do you believe that these are good plans to deliver or is he are good plans to deliver or is to tattoo— are good plans to deliver or is he putting-off?- are good plans to deliver or is he putting off? for the he putting you off? so for the great— he putting you off? so for thei great—tow, great british debate, this hour, i'm great british debate, this hour, t-m—tatow-s- i'm asking, are labour's pottotos— i'm asking, are labour'si policies—off? policies putting you off? i moat-wou- policies putting you off? i mean, you hear, policies putting you off? i. mean,-you hear, is policies putting you off? i- mean,-you hear, is it mean, the more you hear, is it sort— mean, the more you hear, is it sort ot— mean, the more you hear, is it sort ot ao— mean, the more you hear, is it sort of are thinking mean, the more you hear, is it. sort of are .thinking-on mean, the more you hear, is it. s(minute.e-thinking-on mean, the more you hear, is it s(minute. joining inking on mean, the more you hear, is it s(minute. joining me ng on mean, the more you hear, is it s(minute. joining me now on mean, the more you hear, is it s(minute. joining me now is on a minute. joining me now is stator— a minute. joining me now is senior nigel senior gb news commentator nigel wotsoa— senior gb news commentator nigel wotsoa ant— senior gb news commentator nigel nelson and political— nelson and political commentators anna mcgovern nelson and political— commentators anna mcgovern and matthew— commentators anna mcgovern and matthew stadlen_ commentators anna mcgovern and matthew stadlen .— commentators anna mcgovern and matthew stadlen . all right, i'm matthew stadlen. all right, i'm going— matthew stadlen. all right, i'm going to— matthew stadlen. all right, i'm going to stat— matthew stadlen. all right, i'm going to start with you, nigel. sootag— going to start with you, nigel. seeing as— going to start with you, nigel. seeing as you've— going to start with you, nigel. seeing as you've gone full frame on seeing as you've gone full frame 0n_v0ur_ seeing as you've gone full frame 0n_v0ur tatow- seeing as you've gone full frame on_your labour or- on me, nigel, your labour or wow-o— on me, nigel, your labour or you're somebody— on me, nigel, your labour or you're somebody who probably supports— you're somebody who probably supports labour— you're somebody who probably supports labour more. nigel what do supports labour more. nigel what to you— supports labour more. nigel what to you twat— supports labour more. nigel what to you tttatt — supports labour more. nigel what do you think ? i— supports labour more. nigel what do you think ? 2 do you think? i think keir starmer is on the right track . starmer is on the right track. he's certainly got more ambitious plans than tony blair had in 1997. and it's going to, it's had in1997. and it's going to, tt-s going— had in 1997. and it's going to, tt-s going to— had in 1997. and it's going to, it's going to take— had in1997. and it's going to, it's going to take a— 22 " it" and it's going to, it's going to take a while tototo— it's going to take a while before they're _ it's going to take a while before they're actually firmed up before they're actually firmed up and — before they're actually firmed at and we — before they're actually firmed at and we got— before they're actually firmed up and we get more detail and ttost— up and we get more detail and some flesh on— up and we get more detail and some flesh on the— up and we get more detail and some flesh on the bones . some flesh on the bones. the tattotat— some flesh on the bones. the national policy— some flesh on the bones. the national policy forum, which is what labour puts together before the party conference to get policies in place. we'll be working— policies in place. we'll be working over— policies in place. we'll be working over the- 2. " f we'll be working over the summer, but we've seen direction of travel. ttett-tt— we've seen direction of travel. toast to— we've seen direction of travel. there'll be 13,000 _ we've seen direction of travel. there'll be 13,000 more- there'll be 13,000 more neighbourhood police , 7000 more neighbourhood police, 7000 more

doctors, 10,000 more nurses, which all sounds quite a good thing to me . yes, but they all thing to me. yes, but they all oat— thing to me. yes, but they all come out with— thing to me. yes, but they all come out with these- 2 yes, but they all come out with these numbers of ot— come out with these numbers of ot ttts— come out with these numbers of more of this and— come out with these numbers of more of this and more of that. atta— more of this and more of that. anna mcgovern— more of this and more of that. anna mcgovern i— more of this and more of that. anna mcgovern i do not trust him ttt. — anna mcgovern i do not trust him ttt. tos— anna mcgovern i do not trust him one bit. he's slippery- anna mcgovern i do not trust him one bit. he's slippery ,- anna mcgovern i do not trust him one bit. he's slippery, slimy, and i think that's the best way to describe it. i think he takes the stance and then in a few weeks time, he changes it again . and we've seen it happen time and time again , though i do and time again, though i do think conservatives do need think the conservatives do need to lose in this election. i think that they need some time to actually back into the to actually go back into the opposition and re—evaluate who they a party, they actually are as a party, because what we're seeing at the moment conservatives and moment is the conservatives and labour just moment is the conservatives and labourjust pouring these labour just pouring out these sound bites into the political sphere rather than actually having backing behind it, having any backing behind it, any any foundation behind what they're saying . so i actually they're saying. so i actually think they do need to lose, think that they do need to lose, though do not trust labour to though i do not trust labour to lead this party. the country either. matthew stadlen i mean, it either. matthew stadlen i mean, t ts— either. matthew stadlen i mean, t ts two— either. matthew stadlen i mean, t ts two ttat— 2; matthew stadlen i mean, it is true that starmer has backtracked _ it is true that starmer has backtracked on— it is true that starmer has backtracked on some of his ototgos— backtracked on some of his ptotgos ttat— backtracked on some of his pledges that he _ backtracked on some of his pledges that he made in order to become— pledges that he made in order to become leader— pledges that he made in order to become leader of— pledges that he made in order to become leader of the labour party. — become leader of the labour party. loot-t— become leader of the labour party. idon't-he-

become leader of the labour party. idon't-he wasl party. don't forget he was fighting against, in some cases, the hard left and trying drag the hard left and trying to drag the hard left and trying to drag the from the brink. i the party back from the brink. i mean, corbyn took the party almost over the hill, almost to the point of no return. someone like me who'd voted labour all my life. i couldn't vote labour underjeremy my life. i couldn't vote labour under jeremy corbyn. think underjeremy corbyn. so i think he's good job of he's done a pretty good job of detoxifying party. detoxifying the labour party. one of the really interesting areas is this green belt point and starmer says he is not going to allow building on the green belt destroys or ruins belt if it destroys or ruins disrupts our beautiful countryside. we have a beautiful country, britain , and we want to country, britain, and we want to protect it, but we have a desperate housing crisis. even the housing minister himself, michael gove, says that our housing model is broken and the tories have been in power. let's remember, for 13 years. so if starmer really can build more houses , i think that's a massive houses, i think that's a massive vote. winner yeah, but they all say vote. winner yeah, but they all saw ttat. — vote. winner yeah, but they all saw ttat. .— vote. winner yeah, but they all say that. i mean— vote. winner yeah, but they all say that. i mean anna- �*ft�* “2 yeah, but they all say that. i mean anna mcgovern they— say that. i mean anna mcgovern they atwaws— say that. i mean anna mcgovern they atwaws saw— say that. i mean anna mcgovern they always say that, don't they?— they always say that, don't they? they're— they always say that, don't they? they're always talking about— they? they're always talking about they're _to - they? they're always talking about they're to build they? they're always talking abouthouses. to build they? they're always talking abouthouses. they're) build they? they're always talking abouthouses. they're goingi do they? they're always talking abouthey're;. they're goingi do they? they're always talking abouthey're going 're goingi do this, they're going to do that. tts— this, they're going to do that. tt-sito-s— this, they're going to do that. it's-he's been— this, they're going to do that. it's he's been talking a lot this, they're going to do that. it'sthe he's been talking a lot this, they're going to do that. it'sthe time.)een talking a lot this, they're going to do that. it'sthe time. )een absolutely. all the time. oh, absolutely.

att— all the time. oh, absolutely. and-something- all the time. oh, absolutely. and-something that. all the time. oh, absolutely. i and-something that we and this is something that we saw the conservatives say as well. fail. well. and pretty much fail. i don't think that they've delivered what delivered on exactly what they said. they would said. you know, said they would do of building more do in terms of building more houses we are in houses because we are in a housing crisis this country, housing crisis in this country, particularly housing crisis in this country, part know,y housing crisis in this country, part know, it's housing crisis in this country, partknow, it's becoming you know, it's becoming more and more impossible to as a young person, if you actually want to buy house, if this is buy your own house, if this is something that could something that labour could actually deliver on, i'd be very impressed. given how much impressed. but given how much keir has actually keir starmer has actually backtracked so even being backtracked so much, even being in the opposition, let alone in power , i don't know if i buy it. power, i don't know if i buy it. nigel nelson what do you think? i mean, he has backtracked a lot .moat— , to- . it's not. yeah, i mean, he mats— . it's not. yeah, i mean, he mats tot— . it's not. yeah, i mean, he made ten pledges to become toatot— made ten pledges to become toatot att— made ten pledges to become leader and he— made ten pledges to become leader and he and certainly he's not toot— leader and he and certainly he's not toot att— leader and he and certainly he's not toot att ot— leader and he and certainly he's not kept all of them . not kept all of them. um, but i tat— not kept all of them. um, but i mean, but what it comes down to the green belt that has obviously caused an awful lot of controversy. what is actually saying that it's not about saying is that it's not about concreting over the whole of britain. it's about making green belt work better. so, for instance , he gives the example instance, he gives the example of building a choice between building on a car park, which

was designated as green belt or a playing field. and the playing field eventually got the houses. the problem for any government is that that everyone wants more houses, but no one wants the estates built next door to them . yeah, but that can be an tat— . yeah, but that can be an issue. but he's— yeah, but that can be an issue. but he's making these otomtsos— issue. but he's making these promises that— issue. but he's making these promises that he's going to aotaattw— promises that he's going to actually build— promises that he's going to actually build on the green tott- — actually build on the green tott- .— actually build on the green belt. i don't— actually build on the green belt. i don't think. i think to-s— belt. i don't think. i think to-s going— belt. i don't think. i think to-s gotta to— belt. i don't think. i think he's going to get a lot of ottoottot— he's going to get a lot of objection from - he's going to get a lot of objection from that. but nigel, wtat— objection from that. but nigel, wtat-tts— objection from that. but nigel, what-his policy- what about his policy with regatt— what about his policy with. regard—tax regard to taking out the tax treats— regard to taking out the tax breaks independent schools breaks from independent schools 7 breaks from independent schools a _atoat. tts— breaks from independent schools ? _mean, the question. ? well, i mean, the question there is that i think people should be allowed their should be allowed to spend their money wish . however money as they wish. however i don't particularly as a taxpayer , want to be subsidising their choice is so if somebody wants to send their child to a private school , good luck to them. but school, good luck to them. but don't think that the taxpayer should should subsidise that and they should pay the full amount. so it seems to make sense to take away the charitable status of private schools and use that money for more teachers and the state sector. do you think that that works out? matthew i can

see that works out? matthew i can tts— that works out? matthew i can see the argument— that works out? matthew i can see the argument on- 2.2?” matthew i can see the argument on both sides. toa— see the argument on both sides. voa tot-t— see the argument on both sides. voa tot-t watt— see the argument on both sides. you don't want the— see the argument on both sides. you don't want the unintended consequences of the education system getting more difficult for more people. the tories have been busy destroying themselves . just think back just a few months to liz truss's disastrous premiership and the fact that so many people now are paying higher interest higher mortgages. so interest rates have gone up. plus inflation. for some families, life is really tough. nearly 11 million of us are struggling to pay million of us are struggling to pay our bills. so starmer hasn't had to do that much other than detoxify his own party. as i've said now we're starting to see a little bit of flesh coming on to some the because he is some of the bones because he is going to have to put forward some himself as some decent policies himself as we approach election. you we approach the election. you don't quickly don't want to go too quickly as an leader because of an opposition leader because of course, don't want the course, you don't want the government steal your government to steal your policies. just important policies. just one important thing tories have really thing the tories have really dragged down our police across the country over the last 13 years. they cut 20,000 police. they're back 20,000. they're bringing back 20,000. but forget , the population but don't forget, the population has been going up. so if starmer can on crime and make

can get a grip on crime and make our streets safer, i live not far away. i live around the corner, not far away from here. and streets do not feel and the streets do not feel safe. can deliver on safe. and if he can deliver on that, that's very good news. well, said he would. aidan well, he said he would. aidan mootwott— well, he said he would. aidan mcgivern final— well, he said he would. aidan mcgivern final word you. mcgivern final word to you. vow-o— mcgivern final word to you. voa-o— - mcgivern final word to you.| voa-o— vas- mcgivern final word to you.- you've_ yes. and you've got about 20s. yes. and i ttttt— you've got about 20s. yes. and i think starmer, think in terms of keir starmer, again, been saying, again, as we've all been saying, he changes his mind. i genuinely don't we trust him on don't think we can trust him on anything say . anything that he has to say. well, listen, thank you very mug.— well, listen, thank you very much,-stadler,- well, listen, thank you very much, stadler, nigel much, matthew stadler, nigel totsot— much, matthew stadler, nigel. nelson _ mcgovern much, matthew stadler, nigel- nelson_mcgovern . nelson and also anna mcgovern. vow-to— nelson and also anna mcgovern. touts—nata- nelson and also anna mcgovern. you're—nana covid.| nelson and also anna mcgovern. you'iis_nana covid.| nelson and also anna mcgovern. you'iis gb nana covid. nelson and also anna mcgovern. you'iis gb news nana covid. nelson and also anna mcgovern. you'iis gb news on nana covid. nelson and also anna mcgovern. you'iis gb news on tv,ia covid. nelson and also anna mcgovern. you'iis gb news on tv, online d. nelson and also anna mcgovern. you'iis gb news on tv, online on this is gb news on tv, online on the this is gb news on tv, online on tte-tatto— this is gb news on tv, online on tte-tatto .— this is gb news on tv, online on the-radio . after- this is gb news on tv, online on the-radio . after the- the digital radio. after the treat,— the digital radio. after the break, continue the digital radio. after the- break,-continue-the break, we'll continue with the goat—tts- break, we'll continue with thei great—this hour. great british debate this hour. i'm great british debate this hour. t-m—tatow-s- great british debate this hour. i'm labour's policies i'm asking are labour's policies aattttg—toat- i'm asking are labour's policiesj putting _hear the putting you off? you'll hear the ttoagtts— thoughts of my panel, broadcaster- thoughts of my panel, broadcaster lizzie broadcaster and columnist lizzie catty— broadcaster and columnist lizzie catty-atso— broadcaster and columnist lizzie cundy-also former- broadcaster and columnist lizzie cundy also former editor of cundy and also former editor of the cundy and also former editor of tte—tota— cundy and also former editor of the—peter edwards. l cundy and also former editor of the first, peter edwards. cundy and also former editor of the first, let's peter edwards. cundy and also former editor of the first, let's pettyourwards. cundy and also former editor of the first, let's pettyour latest but first, let's get your latest news-. thanks- but first, let's get your latest. news-. thanks nana. news headlines. thanks nana. tan.— news headlines. thanks nana. atoz. tm— news headlines. thanks nana. atoz. tat rav— news headlines. thanks nana. 4:32. i'm ray addison- news headlines. thanks nana. 4:32. i'm ray addison in- news headlines. thanks nana. 4:32. i'm ray addison in the newsroom. philips schofield has announced that he's stepping down from itv's flagship daytime am show this morning with immediate effect. itv has confirmed that he won't be

returning despite two decades at the helm , with last thursday's the helm, with last thursday's show being his final appearance. co—host holly willoughby will not be leaving on social media. mr schofield said he wanted to protect the show that he loved. it's after his brother , timothy it's after his brother, timothy schofield was jailed for 12 years after being convicted of child sex offences . world child sex offences. world leaders have welcomed ukraine's president to the g7 summit in japan. president to the g7 summit in japan . you good to see you. how japan. you good to see you. how are you? yeah, i'm all “ /22. 22 how are you? yeah, i'm all right. ttatts— are you? yeah, i'm all right. ttatts. gays.— are you? yeah, i'm all right. thanks, guys. volodymyr- thanks, guys. volodymyr zelenskyy we met with the uk's prime minister rishi sunak, who said the invite demonstrated the international community's steadfast support for ukraine against russian aggression in french president emmanuel macron described his presence as a game changer towards peace . well, changer towards peace. well, that's as the white- , 2 2 , well, that's as the white house has approved— that's as the white house has approved atats— that's as the white house has approved plans to provide f—16 ttgttot— approved plans to provide f—16 ttgttot tots— approved plans to provide f—16 ttgttot tots to— approved plans to provide f—16 fighter jets to ukraine approved plans to provide f—16 fighterjets to ukraine and to fighter jets to ukraine and to tatt— fighter jets to ukraine and to ttatt tts— fighter jets to ukraine and to train its pilots.— fighter jets to ukraine and to train its pilots. president zototstw— train its pilots. president zelenskyy has repeatedly lobbied

western— zelenskyy has repeatedly lobbied western allies— zelenskyy has repeatedly lobbied western allies for— zelenskyy has repeatedly lobbied western allies for air support att— western allies for air support and tattoo— western allies for air support and hailed the— western allies for air support and hailed the move as historic , and hailed the move as historic . sawtng— and hailed the move as historic . sawtng tt— and hailed the move as historic . sawtng tt wtt— and hailed the move as historic , saying it will greatly enhance wttatto-s— , saying it will greatly enhance ukraine's army— , saying it will greatly enhance ukraine's army in— , saying it will greatly enhance ukraine's army in the sky. the stats— ukraine's army in the sky. the stats ao— ukraine's army in the sky. the plans are expected to be rolled out tt— plans are expected to be rolled out t to— plans are expected to be rolled out in the coming— plans are expected to be rolled out in the coming weeks and mottts— out in the coming weeks and mottts tat— out in the coming weeks and months, but russia says it carries colossal- months, but russia says it carries colossal risks for the west— carries colossal risks for the west .— carries colossal risks for the west . tte— carries colossal risks for the west . the labour party claims west. the labour party claims ttete-s— west. the labour party claims ttete-s teet— west. the labour party claims there's been a— west. the labour party claims there's been a big— west. the labour party claims there's been a big jump in the tomato— there's been a big jump in the tartert ot— there's been a big jump in the number of people dying in a&e attra— number of people dying in a&e amtt resort— number of people dying in a&e amid record waiting times . their amid record waiting times. their atawsts— amid record waiting times. their atawsts ot— amid record waiting times. their analysis of nhs— amid record waiting times. their analysis of nhs trust figures stow— analysis of nhs trust figures stow ttat— analysis of nhs trust figures show that more— analysis of nhs trust figures show that more than 2020 3000 peogte— show that more than 2020 3000 new“! ttet— show that more than 2020 3000 new“! ttet tt— show that more than 2020 3000 people died in emergency departments— people died in emergency departments last year. that's a 22%— departments last year. that's a 22% terease— departments last year. that's a 22% increase on— departments last year. that's a 22% increase on 2021 figures. tte— 22% increase on 2021 figures. the government— 22% increase on 2021 figures. the government says it's tetwerttg— the government says it's delivering a _ the government says it's delivering a record number of tests— delivering a record number of tests .— delivering a record number of tests . tat— delivering a record number of tests , but speeding up tests, but speeding up discharges— tests, but speeding up discharges and cutting waiting ttsts— discharges and cutting waiting ttsts .— discharges and cutting waiting ttsts . ttt— discharges and cutting waiting lists . and de—man has scaled the lists. and de—man has scaled the trott— lists. and de—man has scaled the trott ot— lists. and de—man has scaled the trott ot tte— lists. and de—man has scaled the front of the bbc— lists. and de—man has scaled the front of the bbc building in eettrat— front of the bbc building in central london— front of the bbc building in central london in protest agatnst— central london in protest agattst a— central london in protest against a historic statue . he's against a historic statue. he's teet— against a historic statue. he's been seen hammering at the prospero— been seen hammering at the prospero att— been seen hammering at the prospero and ariel statue, which has prospero and ariel statue, which tas teet— prospero and ariel statue, which tas teen on— prospero and ariel statue, which has been on display since 1933. totte— has been on display since 1933. tottee att— has been on display since 1933. police and rescue— has been on display since 1933. police and rescue teams are ttere— police and rescue teams are ttere trying— police and rescue teams are ttere trwtng to—

police and rescue teams are there trying to negotiate with ttt. — there trying to negotiate with him. campaigners have been eattttg— him. campaigners have been eattttg tor— him. campaigners have been calling for the— him. campaigners have been calling for the statue's removal as tts— calling for the statue's removal as its sculptor,— calling for the statue's removal as its sculptor, eric gill atmtttet— as its sculptor, eric gill admitted in— as its sculptor, eric gill admitted in his diaries that he tat— admitted in his diaries that he tat seaaattw— admitted in his diaries that he had sexually abused his taagtters— had sexually abused his taagtters .— had sexually abused his daughters . we're on tv online on daughters. we're on tv online on data — daughters. we're on tv online on data tatto— daughters. we're on tv online on data ratto att— daughters. we're on tv online on dab+ radio and on— daughters. we're on tv online on dab+ radio and on tune in to ttts— dab+ radio and on tune in to ttts ts— dab+ radio and on tune in to ttts ts et— dab+ radio and on tune in to this is gb news.— dab+ radio and on tune in to this is gb news. back now to tarra— this is gb news. back now to tata .— nana. thank you, ray. still to come at it's this week's at five, it's this week's difficult conversation. and i'll be meeting a man who robbed banks pay for wife's ivf banks to pay for his wife's ivf treatment. after racked treatment. and after he racked up almost a quarter of up debts of almost a quarter of a million, domingo went on a million, we domingo went on a robbing spree . you'll be joining robbing spree. you'll be joining me on the sofa . but before that, me on the sofa. but before that, it's me on the sofa. but before that, wsfime me on the sofa. but before that, it's time for this week's great british debate. and i'm asking, are labour's policies putting you off? go anywhere

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channel. britain is watching. tetto— channel. britain is watching. tetto. toot— channel. britain is watching. hello. good afternoon . �*" ”2 hello. good afternoon. if you're tast— hello. good afternoon. if you're just tenet— hello. good afternoon. if you're just tuned in, where have you been? it's just coming up to 39 minutes after 4:00. this is gb news on tv online and our digital radio. i'm nana akua. now it's time for our great british debate this hour. and i'm asking, are labour's policies off? nana policies putting you off? nana sir starmer has announced sir keir starmer has announced under government under a labour government that the would would the world would lower he would lower trade barriers with the european . that's within 18 european union. that's within 18 months of getting the keys to number 10. critics argue that this undermine brexit and this would undermine brexit and that starmer is set to give that is starmer is set to give engush that is starmer is set to give english councils more powers to build green belts to and build on green belts to and boost housing. so what do you think the great british think for the great british debate this hour? asking are debate this hour? i'm asking are labour's policies putting you off? my off? well let's see what my panel that. i'm joined panel make of that. i'm joined by broadcast from columnist lizzie editor lizzie cundy, also former editor of labourlist edwards. of the labourlist peter edwards. lizzie, start with lizzie, i'm going to start with you. labour's policies first, they want to kind of get closer to europe again, which sounds to me like they kind of want to do a slight backtrack on brexit. yeah. policies. policies? yeah. policies. what policies?

ttat-s—ot- yeah. policies. what policies? that's—of brexiti that's reversing out of brexit tst-t— that's reversing out of brexit tst-t a— that's reversing out of brexit tst-t a potty.— that's reversing out of brexit isn't a policy, is— that's reversing out of brexit isn't a policy, is it? it goes agatnst— isn't a policy, is it? it goes against what— isn't a policy, is it? it goes against what what the majority of against what what the majority ot tte— against what what the majority of the working— against what what the majority of the working class voted for in of the working class voted for t ttett— of the working class voted for in their drones— of the working class voted for in their drones and i'm sorry. ttg— in their drones and i'm sorry. tttg ot— in their drones and i'm sorry. ttg ot tte— in their drones and i'm sorry. king of the flip— in their drones and i'm sorry. king of the flip flops yet again taettraets— king of the flip flops yet again taettraets .— king of the flip flops yet again backtracks . and— king of the flip flops yet again backtracks . and what are his backtracks. and what are his oottetes— backtracks. and what are his pottetes tt— backtracks. and what are his policies in fact— backtracks. and what are his policies in fact because there's no policies in fact because there's to you— policies in fact because there's no you know— policies in fact because there's no you know the _ policies in fact because there's no you know the devil is in the tetatt— no you know the devil is in the tetatt te— no you know the devil is in the detail he gives— no you know the devil is in the detail he gives none. he's very good— detail he gives none. he's very good at— detail he gives none. he's very good at ttts. — detail he gives none. he's very good at this. he— detail he gives none. he's very good at this. he says what he ttttts— good at this. he says what he thinks everyone— good at this. he says what he thinks everyone wants to hear att— thinks everyone wants to hear and wtt— thinks everyone wants to hear and win votes. _ thinks everyone wants to hear and win votes. but he doesn't awe— and win votes. but he doesn't gwe aw— and win votes. but he doesn't gwe aw proper— and win votes. but he doesn't give any proper detail. i mean, tattttg— give any proper detail. i mean, tattttg atout— give any proper detail. i mean, talking about the— give any proper detail. i mean, talking about the green belts, te-s— talking about the green belts, te-s sawtng— talking about the green belts, he's saying we'll— talking about the green belts, he's saying we'll build where aaaroartate— he's saying we'll build where approartate .— he's saying we'll build where appropriate . what does that appropriate. what does that aetuatw— appropriate. what does that actually mean?— appropriate. what does that actually mean? how is he going to to— actually mean? how is he going to to te— actually mean? how is he going to to tte tett— actually mean? how is he going to do it? tell us— actually mean? how is he going to do it? tell us something tatter— to do it? tell us something rather than— to do it? tell us something rather than just— to do it? tell us something rather than just trying to do ttese— rather than just trying to do ttese. vou— rather than just trying to do these, you know, grab grab, you know.— these, you know, grab grab, you know. ttese— these, you know, grab grab, you know, these banners to grab w.otes — know, these banners to grab votes. peter— know, these banners to grab votes. peter ,— know, these banners to grab votes. 37222 ” ” know, these banners to grab votes. ” votes. peter, labour are not going to take britain back into europe. keir starmer its leader tas— europe. keir starmer its leader tas rutet— europe. keir starmer its leader tas rutet out— 2. keir starmer its leader has ruled out returning to the customs— has ruled out returning to the customs union,— has ruled out returning to the customs union, returning to the state— customs union, returning to the state market— customs union, returning to the single market and— customs union, returning to the single market and return of treetort— single market and return of treetort ot— single market and return of freedom of movement. they've all teet— freedom of movement. they've all been rutet— freedom of movement. they've all been ruled out.— freedom of movement. they've all been ruled out. he's— freedom of movement. they've all been ruled out. he's also said no been ruled out. he's also said to to— been ruled out. he's also said to to a— been ruled out. he's also said no to a second— been ruled out. he's also said no to a second referendum. so ttere-s— no to a second referendum. so ttere-s a— no to a second referendum. so ttere-s a tot— no to a second referendum. so there's a lot of— no to a second referendum. so there's a lot of mythology springing up.

there's a lot of mythology springing up . you often get in springing up. you often get in the 12 to 18 months for a general election , sometimes general election, sometimes fuelled by newspapers like the daily nonsense to daily mail. it is a nonsense to suggest— daily mail. it is a nonsense to suggest-gotta- daily mail. it is a nonsense to suggest-gotta to- daily mail. it is a nonsense toi suggest-going to take suggest labour is going to take trttatt— suggest labour is going to take trttatt tast— suggest labour is going to take britain back into— suggest labour is going to take britain back into the eu. let me tell britain back into the eu. let me tett vou— britain back into the eu. let me tett you one— britain back into the eu. let me tell you one other— britain back into the eu. let me tell you one other thing. it is right and perfectly sensible rule to have good relationships with neighbouring countries. one thing recently has underlined that, and that's small boats that, and that's the small boats crisis where two years ago yvette cooper was saying we need to work with france . then rishi to work with france. then rishi sunak around . to sunak finally came around. to that view, it is that point of view, it is completely sensible all to get on your neighbours . and on with your neighbours. and there something called boris there was something called boris johnson who in 2016, a week after the referendum, said we should have closer ties with europe. but but there's nothing wrong— europe. but but there's nothing wrong wttt— europe. but but there's nothing wrong with having— europe. but but there's nothing wrong with having a— 2. but but there's nothing wrong with having a good relationship— wrong with having a good relationship with people who are your— relationship with people who are your neighbouring— your neighbouring countries. tototy-s— nobody's saying that that's not wtat—treatt- nobody's saying that that's noti what—brexit didn't what brexit meant. brexit didn't ttat— what brexit meant. brexit didn't ttat you— what brexit meant. brexit didn't mean that you don't dislike mean that you don't you dislike your— mean that you don't you dislike your neighbours. _ mean that you don't you dislike your neighbours. it simply meant that your neighbours. it simply meant ttat your— your neighbours. it simply meant that your neighbours no that your neighbours could no totger— that your neighbours could no totaaottte— that your neighbours could no totaaottte-we- that your neighbours could no longtpoint? we want. your point? we have we want. tot-t—sgeatttgi don't hang on, i'm speaking. tot-t—gottti don't hang on, i'm speaking.- uot-t—gottt ts. don't ask me what my point is. wtate— don't ask me what my point is. wtate-to— don't ask me what my point is. what?-to make- don't ask me what my point is. what?-to make my. what? i'm trying to make my potat— what? i'm trying to make my pottt att— what? i'm trying to make my pottt att tts— what? i'm trying to make my point and it's my— what? i'm trying to make my point and it's my going to point and it's my am i going to do point and it's my am i going to oto-stow— point and it's my am i going to oto-stow tttng- point and it's my am i going to. do-show thing-with do the my show thing again with you—'- do the my show thing again with you—r wtt-

you this time? peter? i will just— you this time? peter? i will rust-ott- you this time? peter? i will tust-ott your- you this time? peter? i willi just-off your chair, just push you off your chair, tut—camera- just push you off your chair,| but_camera,.|'ll but it'll be on camera, so i'll tave— but it'll be on camera, so i'll have _carefully.- have to do it carefully. no, ttstet— have to do it carefully. no, ttstetlr-tt— have to do it carefully. no, listenii'll-to- have to do it carefully. no,i listenii'll-to-point, listen, i'll get to my point, att— listen, i'll get to my point, ant-matttg— listen, i'll get to my point, and-making the- listen, i'll get to my point, and making the point i'm and i'm making the point i'm away— and i'm making the point i'm actually—regard. and i'm making the point i'ml actually—regard to actually making with regard to this actually making with regard to. ttts—ttsagrees this is that we nobody disagrees wttt— this is that we nobody disagrees wttt tte— this is that we nobody disagrees with the notion— this is that we nobody disagrees with the notion of— this is that we nobody disagrees with the notion of being friends wttt— with the notion of being friends wttt your— with the notion of being friends with your neighbours and so on att— with your neighbours and so on ant-tort.— with your neighbours and so on and .forth..that's- with your neighbours and so on and forth. that's not even and so forth. so that's not even atyttttg—ts- anything that anyone is ttsauttta— anything that anyone is disputing. you're kind of disputing. and you're kind of sayttg— disputing. and you're kind of sayttg-ttougt- disputing. and you're kind of saying though oh, saying it as though it's, oh, torts— saying it as though it's, oh, boris johnson— saying it as though it's, oh, boris johnson said that. so what everybody— boris johnson said that. so what everybody-you- boris johnson said that. so whatj ewerytoty-you-ot everybody expects you to get on wttt — everybody expects you to get on wttt _tut- everybody expects you to get on wttt _tut tte l with your neighbours. but the potat— with your neighbours. but the port—are- with your neighbours. but the oottt—are tteyl point is that what are they going— point is that what are they gotta-about- point is that what are they going about the small going to do about the small boats— going to do about the small boats coming— going to do about the small- boats coming-channel? boats coming across the channel? i boats coming across the channel? r—ttetr— boats coming across the channel? i_their policies.- i want to hear their policies. i want— i want to hear their policies. i want_policies,l i want to hear their policies. 1. want—policies, but want to hear some policies, but tetr— want to hear some policies, but tett—tave- want to hear some policies, but keir_ have that. want to hear some policies, but| keir_ have that in keir starmer didn't have that in his keir starmer didn't have that in tts-uow— keir starmer didn't have that in his-now-peter- his five. now let let peter answer he thought answer that because he thought he and take my job he would try and take my job again. no. do consider again. so no, no. i do consider mysett— again. so no, no. i do consider mysett tott— again. so no, no. i do consider myself told off.— again. so no, no. i do consider myself told off. so— 222 “ so no, no. i do consider myself told off. so we'll back ttat.— myself told off. so we'll back that. there's— myself told off. so we'll back that. there's a— myself told off. so we'll back that. there's a suggestion. i ttttt— that. there's a suggestion. ij ttttt—ttat that. there's a suggestion. i- think—that keir think perhaps from you that keir starter— think perhaps from you that keir starter-at— think perhaps from you that keir starmer an underhand or an starmer has an underhand or an unspoken— starmer has an underhand or an unspoken intention to take trttatt— unspoken intention to take britain back— unspoken intention to take britain back into the eu. and r-rt — britain back into the eu. and rm sayttg— britain back into the eu. and i'm saying that's— britain back into the eu. and i'm saying that's not the case. i'm saying that's not the case. r ttttt— i'm saying that's not the case. r ttttt we— i'm saying that's not the case. i think we then— i'm saying that's not the case. i think we then agree that it's good— i think we then agree that it's good to— i think we then agree that it's good to tave— i think we then agree that it's good to have close relationships but good to have close relationships tut—your— but disagree with your international allies in the stat— international allies in the small boats— international allies in the small boats crisis. yvette small boats crisis. so yvette cooper— cooper the shadow home secretary.— cooper the shadow homej secretary, _ties cooper the shadow home- secretary, _ties with secretary, said closer ties with transe— secretary, said closer ties with france. now happening france. that is now happening att— france. that is now happening and sat— france. that is now happening and said spend— france. that is now happening and said spend more on getting ttrougt— and said spend more on getting ttrougt tte— and said spend more on getting through the immigration backlog

teeause— through the immigration backlog because—tte- because that's one of the pressures people are in pressures where people are in trttatt— pressures where people are in trttatt tt— pressures where people are in trttatt to very— pressures where people are in britain in very unsafe aroeessttg— britain in very unsafe processing like britain in very unsafe- processing-like manston britain in very unsafe proclabour's like manston britain in very unsafe proc labour's also ke manston britain in very unsafe proclabour's also proposed)n and labour's also proposed settttg— and labour's also proposed settttg ug— and labour's also proposed settttg up a— and labour's also proposed setting up a new cross border totte— setting up a new cross border toree wtere— setting up a new cross border toree wtere you— setting up a new cross border force where you join together gotte— force where you join together route. a— force where you join together police, a border— force where you join together police, a border a home police, a border force, a home otttee— police, a border force, a home otttee att— police, a border force, a home office and work— police, a border force, a home office and work with international partners. because wtatewer— international partners. because wtatewerote— international partners. because whatever one feels about the causes of the— whatever one feels about the causes of the migrant crisis is puttttg— causes of the migrant crisis is auttttg toes— causes of the migrant crisis is putting lives-risk- causes of the migrant crisis is putting lives risk . �*ft�*222 putting lives at risk. well, ttat-s— putting lives at risk. well, was wet. — putting lives at risk. well, that's well, we— putting lives at risk. well, that's well, we agree with that . i he's a good leader? . do i think he's a good leader? does he come up with is a good teatere— does he come up with is a good leader?-think_ does he come up with is a good leader?-think.has- does he come up with is a good leader? think has well leader? do you think he has well water— leader? do you think he has well worked—you- worked out policies? do you trust—ts- worked out policies? do you trust—ts toi worked out policies? do youi trust—ts to . worked out policies? do you- trust_is no . and trust him? my answer is no. and i trust him? my answer is no. and .-2..aa_ trust him? my answer is no. and r-e.ase r— trust him? my answer is no. and r-e.ase r meat— trust him? my answer is no. and r-e.ase r .- trust him? my answer is no. and i-case. i mean , he- i rest my case. i mean, he ttttts— i rest my case. i mean, he ttttts-you- i rest my case. i mean, he thinks you know, thinks he's the you know, utttrtate— thinks he's the you know, ultimate authority on anything . ultimate authority on anything. and ultimate authority on anything. ttt te— ultimate authority on anything. and he doesn't— ultimate authority on anything. and he doesn't even know what a ts. ttts— and he doesn't even know what a woman is. this man— and he doesn't even know what a woman is. this man cannot be our text— woman is. this man cannot be our text teater. — woman is. this man cannot be our text teater. tray— woman is. this man cannot be our next leader. me; 2 next leader. may i respond to that? well,ithink_ next leader. may i respond to that? well,ithink you- next leader. 12122 2 2227 well, think you should. that? well, i think you should. tes.— that? well, i think you should. ves- res.— that? well, i think you should. ves- ves- so— that? well, i think you should. ves- ves- so tm— that? well, i think you should. yes. yes. so i'm not— that? well, i think you should. yes. yes. so i'm not sure you can rest my case after can say i rest my case after answering own questions. so answering your own questions. so first he's life first of all, he's had a life outside politics, which i think is really important. and when you the crown you as head of the crown prosecution service, the conviction rate for sexual offences increased. so it's putting bad guys behind putting more bad guys behind bars. think that's a good bars. i think that's a good thing. also he's accepted the result of the eu referendum , result of the eu referendum, which is another thing, perhaps some more sceptical broadcasters

or editors have or newspaper editors have challenged him on and is articulated a clear plan on the migrants crisis. and he's also acted with integrity. so, for example , when people in the example, when people in the labour party have made inappropriate they've labour party have made inappsuspended. they've labour party have made inappsuspended. so they've labour party have made inappsuspended. so i they've labour party have made inappsuspended. so i absolutely been suspended. so i absolutely believe he's the right person . believe he's the right person. no, he still doesn't know what a womanlttougt— no, he still doesn't know what a woman though, does he? woman is though, does he? toure— woman is though, does he? you're—been. you're saying you've been female? yeah but no, that's you saying said that. saying it. he hasn't said that. users.— saying it. he hasn't said that. listen-struggled- “2 2 he hasn't said that. listen. struggled with listen. and he struggled with it. embarrassingly it. and it's embarrassingly bad .—wttt- it. and it's embarrassingly bad| .—wttt regart . but on your point with regard to str— . but on your point with regard to str tetr— . but on your point with regard to sir keir starmer, he seems to be to sir keir starmer, he seems to te tttterttg— to sir keir starmer, he seems to be ditheringllot,_ to sir keir starmer, he seems to be dithering lot, though, when be dithering a lot, though, when it be dithering a lot, though, when tt-to— be dithering a lot, though, when it-to decisions.- be dithering a lot, though, when it-to decisions-he. it comes to decisions. and he tas— it comes to decisions. and he tas-trotted— it comes to decisions. and he has .flopped _and. it comes to decisions. and he has flopped and if has flip flopped a lot. and if te-s— has flip flopped a lot. and if tes—tte- has flip flopped a lot. and if he's—the reinsi has flip flopped a lot. and if. he's—the reins as he's going to take the reins as teater— he's going to take the reins as leader-country,- he's going to take the reins as leader-country, we- leader of this country, we need to-ttat— leader of this country, we need to-that somebody- leader of this country, we need to that somebody who's to know that somebody who's got some-ot— to know that somebody who's got some .of backbone. - some sort of backbone. and so fan— some sort of backbone. and so tau—tes- some sort of backbone. and so tau—tes tot- some sort of backbone. and soj far,_he's not been far, the fact that he's not been atte— far, the fact that he's not been atte-atout— far, the fact that he's not been able-about what- far, the fact that he's not been able about what woman far, the fact that he's not been atand about what woman far, the fact that he's not been atand just about what woman far, the fact that he's not been atand just tryingt what woman far, the fact that he's not been atand just trying to 'hat woman far, the fact that he's not been atand just trying to deflect oman far, the fact that he's not been atand just trying to deflect on an is and just trying to deflect on ttat— is and just trying to deflect on ttat att— is and just trying to deflect on ttat ant-ot— is and just trying to deflect on that and _on .other- is and just trying to deflect on that and on other things is and just trying to deflect on that call on other things is and just trying to deflect on that call them on other things is and just trying to deflect on that call them culture )ther things is and just trying to deflect on that call them culture wars, :hings and call them culture wars, wttet— and call them culture wars, wttt-as— and call them culture wars, which as woman, and call them culture wars,- which-aslwoman, it's which for me as a woman, it's very—ttt i which for me as a woman, it's very—ttt toi very important. i want him to address— very important. i want him to address-te- very important. i want him to address he hasn't. very important. i want him to. address-he hasn't. i address that. and he hasn't. i tttut— address that. and he hasn't. i ttttt ttat-s— address that. and he hasn't. i think that's a— address that. and he hasn't. i think that's a fair— address that. and he hasn't. i think that's a fair point- address that. and he hasn't. i think that's a fair point to challenge. he needs able challenge. he needs to be able to on to give a clear answer on transgender and it's transgender issues and it's right that i think he has looked nervous times answering that nervous at times answering that question . think borne question. i think that's borne out sensitivity rather than out of sensitivity rather than

anything trying to keep anything he's trying to keep sides with everyone who sits on the fence so much he'll get splinters. he will not say what he splinters. he will not say what te—te-sl he really feels because he's seared— he really feels because he'si seared—tes scared of offending and he's usttg— scared of offending and he's usttg tte— scared of offending and he's using the trans— scared of offending and he's using the trans community as some political— using the trans community as some political football to win att— some political football to win ant-gottts— some political football to win ant-gottts .— some political football to win and-points . and- some political football to win and points . and that's and score points. and that's true.— and score points. and that's true. te— and score points. and that's true. he can't— and score points. and that's true. he can't answer the fact. vou— true. he can't answer the fact. you eat-t— true. he can't answer the fact. you can't even— true. he can't answer the fact. you can't even answer the guestroo— you can't even answer the guesttot te— you can't even answer the question he was asked so many tstes— question he was asked so many ttrteswortat-- question he was asked so many ttrteswortat- ts.- question he was asked so many times woman is. sorry. times where a woman is. sorry. ttat-s— times where a woman is. sorry. ttat-s rust— times where a woman is. sorry. ttat-s tust so— times where a woman is. sorry. that's just so embarrassing. you tte— that's just so embarrassing. you tte gtrase— that's just so embarrassing. you use the phrase political football. _ use the phrase political football. ihave- use the phrase political- football. ihavelchallenge football. i have to challenge you why is him being you that. why why is him being asked ? why asked by journalists? why does that a political that amount to a political football won't football? because he won't answer—whichl football? because he won't. answer—which he answer the question which he tows— answer the question which he knows-married- answer the question which he. knows.-married-got knows. he's a married man, got two— knows. he's a married man, got two-tm— knows. he's a married man, got two-ttt sure— knows. he's a married man, got two-ttt tts- knows. he's a married man, got two i'm sure his wife is two kids. i'm sure his wife is a bit two kids. i'm sure his wife is a ttt worrtet— two kids. i'm sure his wife is a bit worried-he— two kids. i'm sure his wife is a bit worried he doesn't bit worried that he doesn't know wtat— bit worried that he doesn't know wtat-ts— bit worried that he doesn't know wtat-ts-tutl what a woman is, surely. but ttat-s— what a woman is, surely. but ttat-s-wtat— what a woman is, surely. but that's what political that's not what a political football your football is. i think your analysis, make analysis, it just doesn't make sense. he's not in every broadcast , and i broadcast interview, and i should he does several should imagine he does several dozens, if not hundreds, over the a month. he's not the course of a month. he's not bringing transgender issues. bringing up transgender issues. it's say he's it's just inaccurate to say he's using the trans community as a political football. well, why doesn't—what- political football. well, why- doesn't_what lwoman doesn't he answer what a woman is doesn't he answer what a womani ts—ttows is then? because he surely knows att— is then? because he surely knows atatswert- rt.- is then? because he surely knows and-answer it. well- and he won't answer it. well i ttttt— and he won't answer it. well i ttttt te-s— and he won't answer it. well i ttttt te-s got— and he won't answer it. well i think he's got to— and he won't answer it. well i think he's got to a— and he won't answer it. well i think he's got to a place now wtere— think he's got to a place now where-obviously- think he's got to a place now where obviously been where he obviously has been testtatt. — where he obviously has been hesitant. _pointl hesitant. there's no point denying just denying that where he'd just say

he adult embarrassing. denying that where he'd just say he embarrassing. embarrassing. denying that where he'd just say he embarrassing. edon't'assing. it's embarrassing. i don't know why— it's embarrassing. i don't know wty-tt.— it's embarrassing. i don't know wty-ttlsee. it's embarrassing. i don't know why-it.-see, thisj why he's done it. but see, this is why he's done it. but see, this ts tte— why he's done it. but see, this ts tte worry— why he's done it. but see, this is the worry for— why he's done it. but see, this is the worry for a— why he's done it. but see, this is the worry for a lot of people ttat— is the worry for a lot of people ttat tt— is the worry for a lot of people ttat tt you-re— is the worry for a lot of people that if you're _be - that if you're going to be so, so—gottg- that if you're going to be so, so—gottg to- that if you're going to be so, so—gottg to tei so difficult, it's going to be so difficult, it's going to be so difficult— so difficult, it's going to be so difficult for— so difficult, it's going to be so difficult for you to answer stmgte— so difficult for you to answer smote—att- so difficult for you to answer simple and there so difficult for you to answer sitime _and there| so difficult for you to answer sitime when and there so difficult for you to answer sitime when lots and there so difficult for you to answer sitime when lots ofid there so difficult for you to answer sitime when lots of politicians a time when lots of politicians teat—ttey-re i kept doing that and they're stttt— kept doing that and they'rei stttt—atways still doing it. they're always tottg— still doing it. they're always tottglrt-s— still doing it. they're always doing it's annoying. so doing it. it's very annoying. so for doing it. it's very annoying. so tor—a- doing it. it's very annoying. so. tor—a teeett doing it. it's very annoying. so. for. now—a decent doing it. it's very annoying. so. for. now-toryia decent doing it. it's very annoying. so. for. now-toryia (are nt leader. now the tory party are eatttg— leader. now the tory party are eating themselves from the taste— eating themselves from the inside-don't- eating themselves from the inside don't know. inside out. i don't know. i tot-t— inside out. i don't know. i tot-t ttow— inside out. i don't know. i don't know they're going don't know what they're going to do, don't know what they're going to oto—trow- do, frankly. i don't know wtetter— do, frankly. i don't know whether-theml do, frankly. i don't know. whether-them or do, frankly. i don't know- whether-them or not, whether i support them or not, but whether i support them or not, tut-tte— whether i support them or not, but-the labour- whether i support them or not, but the labour party, but as for the labour party, i'm very— but as for the labour party, i'mj very—atte very sceptical about being able to-ttem— very sceptical about being able to-ttert att— very sceptical about being able to-them and i- very sceptical about being able to them and i would to support them and i would i woutt— to support them and i would i woutt tave— to support them and i would i would have considered it had he teet— would have considered it had he teen—tts- would have considered it had he teen—tts regtyl would have considered it had hei been—his reply as been more firm with his reply as to wtat— been more firm with his reply as to wtat a— been more firm with his reply as to what a woman— been more firm with his reply as to what a woman is. had he not flip— to what a woman is. had he not tttp flopped— to what a woman is. had he not flip flopped about— to what a woman is. had he not flip flopped about policies, had he flip flopped about policies, hadi te—tte he not addressed things that the trtttst— british public are really- serious—culture british public are really- serio which _culture british public are really- serio which he _culture british public are really serio which he dismissedilture british public are really serio which he dismissed ,ture british public are really serio which he dismissed , which wars which he dismissed, which are wars which he dismissed, which a.a_tmpaaam,- are very, very important, esaeetatty— are very, very important, especially when it's schools. especially when it's in schools. att— especially when it's in schools. attltot-t— especially when it's in schools. and don't understand why he and i don't understand why he toes— and i don't understand why he toes-to— and i don't understand why he toes-to tte- and i don't understand why he does to the british does not relate to the british peopte— does not relate to the british peoptelttttt. — does not relate to the british people, think. and that's people, i think. and that's a grottert — people, i think. and that's a problem _yeah- people, i think. and that's a problem _yeah - people, i think. and that's a- problem _yeah imean, problem for him. yeah i mean, ttts—corersi this label, culture wars, covers so areas, but so many different areas, but i think it's a real challenge for labour party because the labour party , out of good intentions party, out of good intentions and political sense , wants to party, out of good intentions and aboutal sense , wants to party, out of good intentions and about the snse , wants to party, out of good intentions and about the things wants to party, out of good intentions and about the things that; to party, out of good intentions and about the things that do talk about the things that do matter and when i go out matter and come up when i go out campaigning. so nhs, gp waiting

times , crime and so and so times, crime and so on and so on, but i think labour has generally in my lifetime been slightly ahead of other parties in being anti discrimination, particularly in the 1980s, where local authorities run by labour were doing a lot more in terms of equal pay for women, black rights , standing up for the gay rights, standing up for the gay community. having been community. so having been a leader in the past, labour needs a crisp answer some a clear and crisp answer on some of wars issues. but of the culture wars issues. but i believe the election i genuinely believe the election is decided the is going to be decided on the usual economy gp, crime, usual things. economy gp, crime, nhs and a bit of brexit as well. but it's not real labour, is he? there's a there's a cigarette paper— there's a there's a cigarette pager tetweet— there's a there's a cigarette paper between labour and conservative— paper between labour and conservative because he's got more or less the— conservative because he's got more or less the same views as ttstt— more or less the same views as ttstt ot— more or less the same views as ttstt on many— more or less the same views as ttstt on many ot— more or less the same views as rishi on many of things, but he wot— rishi on many of things, but he wot cat— rishi on many of things, but he wot can you— rishi on many of things, but he won't. can you name one? there are won't. can you name one? there many. tes— won't. can you name one? there many. ue-s ot— won't. can you name one? there are many. he's on the on the tmmtgrattot— are many. he's on the on the immigration for— are many. he's on the on the immigration for instance , about immigration for instance, about wtat— immigration for instance, about wtat te-s— immigration for instance, about wtat tes-to— immigration for instance, about what he's-to do.- immigration for instance, about what he's to do. he's got what he's going to do. he's got the what he's going to do. he's got tte same— what he's going to do. he's got tte sarteasl— what he's going to do. he's got the same-as rishi.- what he's going to do. he's got the same as rishi. no he the same as as rishi. no he tase-t— the same as as rishi. no he tast-tlves— the same as as rishi. no he hasn'tiyes-he- the same as as rishi. no he hasn't yes he then the same as as rishi. no he. hasn'tiyes-he then he hasn't. yes he just he then he ttat-t— hasn't. yes he just he then he ttat-t tttng— hasn't. yes he just he then he didn't bring that— hasn't. yes he just he then he didn't bring that into his five potat— didn't bring that into his five gout-tee- didn't bring that into his five pottt-tee te- didn't bring that into his five point he? he didn't didn't bring that into his five point aboutie? he didn't didn't bring that into his five point about the he didn't didn't bring that into his five point about the realidn't didn't bring that into his five point about the real issues. even talk about the real issues. teogte— even talk about the real issues. people wattet— even talk about the real issues. people wanted about. he people wanted to hear about. he ttat-t— people wanted to hear about. he ttat-t ttseuss— people wanted to hear about. he didn't discuss and— people wanted to hear about. he didn't discuss and he won't ttseuss— didn't discuss and he won't discuss-answer- didn't discuss and he won't

discuss answer the questions discuss or answer the questions .-aetuatty— discuss or answer the questions .- actually- how - discuss or answer the questions .-actually-how hei . i don't actually know how he wot-ot— . i don't actually know how he won-of barrister- won any cases of barrister teeause— won any cases of barrister because-never- won any cases of barrister because never answers because he never answers a guestroo— because he never answers a guesttot att— because he never answers a question and questioning question and his questioning stttts— question and his questioning skills-useless— question and his questioning skills useless for me. skills are useless for me. i tot-t— skills are useless for me. i tot-t trust— skills are useless for me. i don't trust him. - skills are useless for me. i don't trust him. i'm sorry. every— don't trust him. i'm sorry. every party— don't trust him. i'm sorry. every party-have- don't trust him. i'm sorry. every party-have theirl don't trust him. i'm sorry. every party have their own every party can have their own 30s , but it's just 30s priorities, but it's just inaccurate to say he's the same as rishi sunak on migration. the tories said they want a cap tories have said they want a cap and has said a cap cannot and labour has said a cap cannot be delivered. they're not the same, different. well same, they are different. well they're two. they're two very tweatte— they're two. they're two very liveable- i'm - they're two. they're two very liveable - i'm afraid i they're two. they're two very liveable-i'm afraid .i liveable parties. i'm afraid. to.— liveable parties. i'm afraid. to. to— liveable parties. i'm afraid. to. toae-- liveable parties. i'm afraid. no, no, are. they they have no, no, they are. they they have a tttterett— no, no, they are. they they have a different policy. _ no, no, they are. they they have a different policy. this is why aeogte— a different policy. this is why aeoate-tt— a different policy. this is why people-in tte— a different policy. this is why people in the political people are in the political wilderness,— people are in the political wilderness, because labour aet— wilderness, because labour. aret-t—att aren't being true labour. and tte—wettl the thing is, he may well flip trog— the thing is, he may well flip ttoglwett— the thing is, he may well flip flop.well.it's_ the thing is, he may well flip flop.well.it's not- flop as well if it's not p0pular- — flop as well if it's not popular. .this. flop as well if it's not. popular. .this show flop as well if it's not- popular. .this show is popular. but this show is nothing your nothing without you and your views. let's welcome great views. let's welcome our great british their opportunity british voices their opportunity to tell us to be on the show and tell us what think the topics what they think about the topics we're . let's let's we're discussing. let's let's go over to bristol, shall we? should lee's should we touch up to lee? lee's always interesting always got something interesting to what do you to say. lee harris what do you think labour party? oh, i think the labour party? oh, i don't know. what's your view? oh, i've got keir starmers labour party puts me off altogether now. no, it's not just altogether now. no, it's not tust sttaaery— 2 no, it's not just slippery starmer's vague ttgtt— just slippery starmer's vague ttgtt ot— just slippery starmer's vague light on detail—

just slippery starmer's vague light on detail ,— just slippery starmer's vague light on detail , utterly just slippery starmer's vague light on detail, utterly boring. twe— light on detail, utterly boring. five missions— light on detail, utterly boring. five missions as— light on detail, utterly boring. five missions as it's the labour party-s— five missions as it's the labour tarty-s entre— five missions as it's the labour party's entire culture and what ttey— party's entire culture and what ttey stato— party's entire culture and what ttey statt tor. — party's entire culture and what they stand for. you know, i reatty— they stand for. you know, i reatty to— they stand for. you know, i really do fear— they stand for. you know, i really do fear for this country tetng— really do fear for this country tettg rut— really do fear for this country tettg ty— really do fear for this country tettg by a— really do fear for this country being run by a britain hating woke— being run by a britain hating woke ramona— being run by a britain hating woke ramona coalition from hell . att— woke ramona coalition from hell . ttt satty— woke ramona coalition from hell . and sadly that's— woke ramona coalition from hell . and sadly that's what we might be teatttg— . and sadly that's what we might be teatttg tor. — . and sadly that's what we might be heading for. you— . and sadly that's what we might be heading for. you know labour no be heading for. you know labour to target— be heading for. you know labour to totger tte— be heading for. you know labour no longer the party of the wortttg— no longer the party of the working class.— no longer the party of the working class. they're the party of working class. they're the party ot woke— working class. they're the party of woke remainer_ working class. they're the party of woke remainer elites who care atout— of woke remainer elites who care more about identity politics ttat— more about identity politics ttat ttey— more about identity politics ttat ttey to— more about identity politics than they do about women's rtgtts— than they do about women's rtgtts att— than they do about women's rights and the— than they do about women's rights and the working class . us rights and the working class. us teat.— rights and the working class. us teat. r— rights and the working class. us yeah, i believe— rights and the working class. us yeah, i believe that keir starter— yeah, i believe that keir starmer has— yeah, i believe that keir starmer has policies as well ttat— starmer has policies as well ttat are— starmer has policies as well that are specifically designed to tate— that are specifically designed to take us— that are specifically designed to take us back— that are specifically designed to take us back into the eu ttrougt— to take us back into the eu ttrougt tte— to take us back into the eu through the back door , and he's through the back door, and he's atreaty— through the back door, and he's atreaty tayttg— through the back door, and he's already laying the— through the back door, and he's already laying the groundwork by pledging— already laying the groundwork by pledging to— already laying the groundwork by pledging to renegotiate the treat— pledging to renegotiate the brexit deal,— pledging to renegotiate the brexit deal, as— pledging to renegotiate the brexit deal, as you've been ttseussttg— brexit deal, as you've been discussing, which we all know means closer alignment . he wants means closer alignment. he wants to awe— means closer alignment. he wants to are re— means closer alignment. he wants to are to year— means closer alignment. he wants to give 16 year olds_ means closer alignment. he wants to give 16 year olds the vote. an.nationals,_ to give 16 year olds the vote. an.nationals, the- to give 16 year olds the vote. an nationals, the vote an eu nationals, the vote wtttout— an eu nationals, the vote without. need - an eu nationals, the vote without need of being without the need of being a uk otttzeu— without the need of being a uk etttzet. vou— without the need of being a uk citizen. you know,— without the need of being a uk citizen. you know, as we know, ttese— citizen. you know, as we know, ttese groups— citizen. you know, as we know, these groups much more these groups are much more new— these groups are much more tttety to— these groups are much more tttety to te— these groups are much more likely to be left— these groups are much more likely to be left wing and opposed— likely to be left wing and opposed brexit. doing opposed brexit. he's doing this because— opposed brexit. he's doing this teause—wat- opposed brexit. he's doing this because _want us. opposed brexit. he's doing this because want us to because he doesn't want us to tate— because he doesn't want us to take advantage _ because he doesn't want us to take advantage of— because he doesn't want us to take advantage of brexit. he wants— take advantage of brexit. he wants te— take advantage of brexit. he wants te rust— take advantage of brexit. he wants he just doesn't believe in the wants he just doesn't believe in tte-attttty— wants he just doesn't believe in the - ability . govern, - the uk's ability to govern, goert—

the uk's ability to govern, govern-att- the uk's ability to govern, govern and don't trust govern itself and don't trust tte— govern itself and don't trust tte mat— govern itself and don't trust tte matltte— govern itself and don't trust the man the slightest . just the man in the slightest. just one—tt— the man in the slightest. just one—ttt te- the man in the slightest. just one—i'd be really. one last point. i'd be really gust.— one last point. i'd be really gutet. tts— one last point. i'd be really quick. it's also— one last point. i'd be really quick. it's also worth making ttts— quick. it's also worth making ttts potat— quick. it's also worth making this point that— quick. it's also worth making this point that we're probably teatttg— this point that we're probably teatttg tor— this point that we're probably teatttg tor a— this point that we're probably heading for a hung parliament, trresgeetwe— heading for a hung parliament, irrespective of— heading for a hung parliament, irrespective of what he says. wow— irrespective of what he says. wow ttere-s— irrespective of what he says. now there's a— irrespective of what he says. now there's a high chance he'll tett— now there's a high chance he'll te-tt teet— now there's a high chance he'll te-tt need to— now there's a high chance he'll he'll need to do— now there's a high chance he'll he'll need to do a— now there's a high chance he'll he'll need to do a deal with the lib he'll need to do a deal with the ttt-or— he'll need to do a deal with the ttt-or-sut- he'll need to do a deal with the. lib-or-snp,-could lib dems or the snp, which could be lib dems or the snp, which could toe-te— lib dems or the snp, which could te-te ot— lib dems or the snp, which could te-te ot tte— lib dems or the snp, which could be-be on the basis- lib dems or the snp, which could be be on the basis that be well be on the basis that ttey— be well be on the basis that. ttey—gossttty they reverse brexit or possibly trttgttg— they reverse brexit or possibly trttgttg tt— they reverse brexit or possibly trttgttg t at,— they reverse brexit or possibly bringing in pr, so we'll be stutt— bringing in pr, so we'll be stuck wttt— bringing in pr, so we'll be stuck with awful, indecisive woke— stuck with awful, indecisive wote tett— stuck with awful, indecisive woke left wing— stuck with awful, indecisive woke left wing coalitions toreer— woke left wing coalitions forever . anything he says. woke left wing coalitions forever. anything he says. now tara— forever. anything he says. now tata ts— forever. anything he says. now nana is utterly— forever. anything he says. now nana is utterly worthless. thank you very— nana is utterly worthless. thank you very must. — nana is utterly worthless. thank you very much. lee— nana is utterly worthless. thank you very much. 22 «23 you very much. lee harris. very succinct as ever. that's lee harris. he's a great british voice. what do you think? you're with me? i'm nana akua. this is gb news on tv, online and on digital radio. after the break, it's roundup time and it's royal roundup time and royal angela levin royal biographer angela levin will live the studio. will be live in the studio. according reports, buckingham according to reports, buckingham palace reached out to palace haven't reached out to prince after prince harry and meghan after their so—called near—catastrophic car chase in new york. don't go anywhere

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channel. britain is watching. toot— channel. britain is watching. good afternoon.— channel. britain is watching. good afternoon. i'm- channel. britain is watching. good afternoon. i'm nana akua. this is gb news. we are the people's channel. now there's always something going on in the royal household and this week has been no different. according to reports, buckingham palace haven't reached out to prince harry and meghan after their so—called near—catastrophic rac in new york. this comes as may the 19th mark. the duke and duchess of sussex fifth wedding anniversary with friends praising the fortitude that they've shown during the last few years. and that's as king charles is set to visit romania in june without queen camilla. so every saturday, i'd like to give you a rundown. and who better to do so than royal biographer levin? hello, biographer angela levin? hello, angela levin. we do it again. we're like in the write opposing colours blue and yellow. we don't talk about it at- , 2 we don't talk about it at all. just happehs- — don't talk about it at all. just targets. rust— don't talk about it at all. just happens. just happens. so angela, this car chase, the dukes hazzard . la la la la la dukes of hazzard. la la la la la la la la la la la. yeah it's very interesting. as you said, it's very interesting. as you said, tt-s ttet— very interesting. as you said, it's their fifth— 23 “2 as you said, it's their fifth wedding

anniversary.- it's their fifth wedding anniversary. i had good it's their fifth wedding- anniversary. i had-good luck it's their fifth wedding- an be ersary. i had-good luck it's their fifth wedding- an be ersaiofi had-good luck it's their fifth wedding- an be ersaiof the d - good luck it's their fifth wedding an be ersaiof the rare good luck it's their fifth wedding an be ersaiof the rare presenters. to be one of the rare presenters of to be one of the rare presenters ot ttat— to be one of the rare presenters of that wedding. _ to be one of the rare presenters of that wedding. and it was so happy- _ of that wedding. and it was so happy- pewte— of that wedding. and it was so happy. people were so , so happy happy. people were so, so happy for happy. people were so, so happy tor—store- happy. people were so, so happy for—shone and. happy. people were so, so happy for—shone and we for them. the sun shone and we ttougtt— for them. the sun shone and we ttougtt ste— for them. the sun shone and we thought she was— for them. the sun shone and we thought she was going to be wottertut— thought she was going to be wonderful-it's- thought she was going to be wonderful it's really wonderful. and it's just really sat— wonderful. and it's just really sat .— wonderful. and it's just really sat . att— wonderful. and it's just really sad . and what— wonderful. and it's just really sad . and what you see, look at sad. and what you see, look at tarry— sad. and what you see, look at tarry ow— sad. and what you see, look at tarry twe— sad. and what you see, look at harry now, five years on and he toots— harry now, five years on and he toots ug— harry now, five years on and he looks up absolutely shrivelled att— looks up absolutely shrivelled and r— looks up absolutely shrivelled and r ttttt— looks up absolutely shrivelled and r ttttt r— looks up absolutely shrivelled and i think i really mean it sertousty— and i think i really mean it seriously. actually the thing about— seriously. actually the thing about ttt — seriously. actually the thing about him is— seriously. actually the thing about him is if— seriously. actually the thing about him is if he has got a big ttxattot— about him is if he has got a big fixation about— about him is if he has got a big fixation about photographers and i fixation about photographers and r eat— fixation about photographers and i can understand— fixation about photographers and i can understand that because of wtat— i can understand that because of wtat tapaetet— i can understand that because of what happened to— i can understand that because of what happened to his mother, ttet— what happened to his mother, ttet te— what happened to his mother, then he shouldn't have gone to then he shouldn't have gone to tte party.— then he shouldn't have gone to tte party. trotty— then he shouldn't have gone to the party. motty he shouldn't tave— the party. motty he shouldn't tawe gone.— the party. motty he shouldn't tawe gote. te— the party. motty he shouldn't have gone. he should have. camttta— have gone. he should have. camilla and— have gone. he should have. camilla and meghan should have tootet— camilla and meghan should have tootet arter— camilla and meghan should have looked after him _ camilla and meghan should have looked after him and said, look, if looked after him and said, look, tt you— looked after him and said, look, tt you tot-t— looked after him and said, look, if you don't want— looked after him and said, look, if you don't want to come, we're toute— if you don't want to come, we're bound to— if you don't want to come, we're bound to tave— if you don't want to come, we're bound to have paparazzi around us. bound to have paparazzi around teave rt.— bound to have paparazzi around us. leave it. but— bound to have paparazzi around us. leave it. but they used the aaaarazzt— us. leave it. but they used the paparazzi att— us. leave it. but they used the paparazzi all the— us. leave it. but they used the paparazzi all the time. “ paparazzi all the time. i mean, on paparazzi all the time. i mean, ou ttet— paparazzi all the time. i mean, on their grounds, they used the paparazzi they like. on their grounds, they used the papara they they like. on their grounds, they used the papara they played they like. on their grounds, they used the papara they played in|ey like. on their grounds, they used the papara they played in it. like. on their grounds, they used the papara they played in it. so e. so but they played in it. so ttey— so but they played in it. so ttey get— so but they played in it. so ttey get ttem— so but they played in it. so they get them to come over . they they get them to come over. they ttat-t— they get them to come over. they ttett—to— they get them to come over. they ttett—to sorte- they get them to come over. they didn't—to come and. didn't expect them to come and start— didn't expect them to come and start aoutt— didn't expect them to come and stand around the— didn't expect them to come and stand around the car , but they

stand around the car, but they weret— stand around the car, but they weret at— stand around the car, but they weren't at the— stand around the car, but they weren't at the back, didn't tteye— weren't at the back, didn't tteye so— weren't at the back, didn't tteye so ttey— weren't at the back, didn't they? so they went round the tast— they? so they went round the taet ot — they? so they went round the taet ors-postag- they? so they went round the back on posing and then the back on the posing and then the press — back on the posing and then the press tte— back on the posing and then the press. the whole— back on the posing and then the press. the whole thing is, is rttteutous— press. the whole thing is, is ridiculous. they— press. the whole thing is, is ridiculous. they wear ridiculous. they didn't wear seattetts— ridiculous. they didn't wear seatbelts-you're- seatbelts. so if you're so worrtet— seatbelts. so if you're so worried-his- seatbelts. so if you're so worried his mother and seatbelts. so if you're so- worried-his mother and the worried about his mother and the tast— worried about his mother and the taet ot— worried about his mother and the lack of wearing— worried about his mother and the lack of wearing a— worried about his mother and the lack of wearing a seatbelt, they stoutt — lack of wearing a seatbelt, they stoutt tave— lack of wearing a seatbelt, they should have, whether it's legal, ttey— should have, whether it's legal, ttey must— should have, whether it's legal, ttey must to— should have, whether it's legal, they must do that. _ should have, whether it's legal, they must do that. none of them worelseattett— they must do that. none of them worelseatbelt .— they must do that. none of them worelseatbelt . and— they must do that. none of them wore seatbelt . and if you wore a seatbelt. and if you tootet— wore a seatbelt. and if you tootet at— wore a seatbelt. and if you looked at the— wore a seatbelt. and if you looked at the-of- wore a seatbelt. and if you looked at the of them in looked at the three of them in the looked at the three of them in tte-.— looked at the three of them in ttel rregtat-s— looked at the three of them in the , meghan's mother the car, meghan's mother looked eataustet— the car, meghan's mother looked exhausted and— the car, meghan's mother looked exhausted and nearly asleep. megtat— exhausted and nearly asleep. megtat-ttte- exhausted and nearly asleep. rregtat-ttte .- exhausted and nearly asleep. meghan fine . she was meghan looked fine. she was smttttg— meghan looked fine. she was smiling everything, and smiling and everything, and tarry— smiling and everything, and tarry tootet— smiling and everything, and harry looked absolutely terrified. _ harry looked absolutely terrified. and- harry looked absolutely terrified. and the nonsense of going— terrified. and the nonsense of gotta tto— terrified. and the nonsense of gotta to a— terrified. and the nonsense of going into a yellow cab where you— going into a yellow cab where you tot-t— going into a yellow cab where you wont tave— going into a yellow cab where you don't have any privacy , you don't have any privacy, wett— you don't have any privacy, well, there's— you don't have any privacy, well, there's no— you don't have any privacy, well, there's no blacked out wtttows. — well, there's no blacked out windows. there's- well, there's no blacked out windows. there's no black window aeogte— windows. there's no black window people- teat— windows. there's no black window people. yeah what— windows. there's no black window people. yeah what is this about it, people. yeah what is this about a, ttat-t— people. yeah what is this about a, ttat-t tt— people. yeah what is this about it, didn't it was.— people. yeah what is this about it, didn't it was. well, i think tts— it, didn't it was. well, i think tt-s atout— it, didn't it was. well, i think it's about two _ it, didn't it was. well, i think it's about two things. one is ttat— it's about two things. one is ttatlwattet— it's about two things. one is that-wanted the- it's about two things. one is that wanted the home office that he wanted the home office in that he wanted the home office ts tte— that he wanted the home office ts tte ut— that he wanted the home office ts tte ut to— that he wanted the home office in the uk to see— that he wanted the home office in the uk to see how dangerous tttngs— in the uk to see how dangerous ttttgs are— in the uk to see how dangerous ttttgs att— in the uk to see how dangerous things are and to— in the uk to see how dangerous things are and to encourage them to protest— things are and to encourage them to protest ttt. — things are and to encourage them to protect him. not— things are and to encourage them to protect him. \22 “ things are and to encourage them to protect him. \2 “ to protect him. not just in the uk, but also around the world. i mean, that is silly idea because— i mean, that is silly idea because if— i mean, that is silly idea because if he's- i mean, that is silly idea because if he's not working as a royat— because if he's not working as a royat. wty— because if he's not working as a royal, why should— because if he's not working as a royal, why should we pay for aetuatty— royal, why should we pay for aetuatty tor—

royal, why should we pay for actually for people at six peoate— actually for people at six people a— actually for people at six people a staye— actually for people at six people a day? it's a nonsense. i ttttt— people a day? it's a nonsense. i ttttt tt— people a day? it's a nonsense. i ttttt t a— people a day? it's a nonsense. i ttttt t a way— people a day? it's a nonsense. i ttttt t a way .— people a day? it's a nonsense. i think in a way , he— people a day? it's a nonsense. i think in a way , he hoped it think in a way, he hoped it woutt— think in a way, he hoped it woutt prowe— think in a way, he hoped it would prove that he does need it, would prove that he does need a, wttt— would prove that he does need a, wttet ts— would prove that he does need it, which is why— would prove that he does need it, which is why he upped the sort— it, which is why he upped the sort ot— it, which is why he upped the sort of thermometer about it all att— sort of thermometer about it all and mate— sort of thermometer about it all and mate tt— sort of thermometer about it all and made it much,— sort of thermometer about it all and made it much, much worse . and made it much, much worse. tut— and made it much, much worse. tut tut.— and made it much, much worse. tut out you— and made it much, much worse. but but, you know,— and made it much, much worse. but but, you know, if— and made it much, much worse. but but, you know, if reports- but but, you know, if reports are to be believed, some people who saw things said that it was his security driving badly. i mean, they were obviously driving . so, you know , they were driving. so, you know, they were driving. so, you know, they were driving badly by the sounds of it. so if they're driving badly , causing a situation , okay, , causing a situation, okay, they may have been surrounded by press and things, but that doesn't give them to doesn't give them the right to drive no, i mean, it drive badly. no, no, i mean, it otwtousty— drive badly. no, no, i mean, it was obviously them— 2 ” 2 no, no, i mean, it was obviously them who weren't trwtng—to- was obviously them who weren't trwtng—to wort| driving badly. we have to work out-r— driving badly. we have to work out. meat— driving badly. we have to work out-i mean, some- driving badly. we have to work out i mean, some people out why. i mean, some people tave— out why. i mean, some people tawe sart— out why. i mean, some people have said-well,- out why. i mean, some people have said well, that's have said to me, well, that's because— have said to me, well, that's because-very- have said to me, well, that's because very careless in because they're very careless in new—tott- because they're very careless in new—don't take- because they're very careless ini new—don't take-so new york. they don't take it. so sertousty— new york. they don't take it. so sertousty as— new york. they don't take it. so sertousty as a— new york. they don't take it. so seriously as a uk.— new york. they don't take it. so seriously as a uk. some said , seriously as a uk. some said, wett— seriously as a uk. some said, wet—were- seriously as a uk. some said, well,_were askedi seriously as a uk. some said,i well,_were asked to well, it was they were asked to do well, it was they were asked to to ttat— well, it was they were asked to do that .create _ well, it was they were asked to do that create scene so do that to create a scene so ttey— do that to create a scene so ttey soutt— do that to create a scene so they could make— do that to create a scene so they could make drama. they could make a drama. you ttow— they could make a drama. you ttow wto— they could make a drama. you know who knows?— they could make a drama. you know who knows? we weren't ttere.— know who knows? we weren't ttere. tut— know who knows? we weren't ttere. tut r— know who knows? we weren't there, but i was— know who knows? we weren't there, but i was astonished at ot— there, but i was astonished at ot tte— there, but i was astonished at one of the protection officers. tte— one of the protection officers. tte otty— one of the protection officers. tte otty one— one of the protection officers. the only one in— one of the protection officers. the only one in the taxi got out to — the only one in the taxi got out to wtat— the only one in the taxi got out to see what was— the only one in the taxi got out to see what was going and left

ttem.— to see what was going and left ttem. r— to see what was going and left ttem. r meat— to see what was going and left them. i mean, what how can you do them. i mean, what how can you to ttate— them. i mean, what how can you to ttate tts— them. i mean, what how can you do that? it's impossible. but ttts— do that? it's impossible. but ttts ts— do that? it's impossible. but ttts ts new— do that? it's impossible. but this is new york— do that? it's impossible. but this is new york that has some strato— this is new york that has some major celebrities— this is new york that has some major celebrities living there. ttartat— major celebrities living there. trartat easy.— major celebrities living there. mariah carey, you— major celebrities living there. mariah carey, you know,- major celebrities living there. mariah carey, you know, you've got of kim got you often hear of kim kardashian got you often hear of kim ka newrian got you often hear of kim ka new york. new york is an in new york. new york is an incredible place. i've been there. you cannot really drive fast, although they didn't use the words high speed. but obviously it's been said and they've not come out and the whole gaslighting thing appears to they haven't to be happening. they haven't said no, we didn't go high speed to be happening. they haven't saidifo, we didn't go high speed to be happening. they haven't saidif you'veiidn't go high speed to be happening. they haven't said if you'veiidn't watched speed to be happening. they haven't said if you'veiidn't watched the 3d and if you've ever watched the film they do film zoolander, where they do this and go really this thing and they go really fast traffic fast in between the traffic lights, they have a car chase that's 100 yards. that that's about 100 yards. and that would have been that would have been the longest of that been the longest shot of that car for miles an hour. you know that—iammed-i that because it gets so jammed. ttett—tave— that because it gets so jammed. well-have known- that because it gets so jammed. well have known that well they must have known that rregtat— meghan must have known that ste-s—tol meghan must have known that. ste-s—to uew she's been back and forth to new tort— she's been back and forth to new tort so— she's been back and forth to new tort so-ttrtes.— she's been back and forth to new york so-times. i— she's been back and forth to new york so times. i mean, it york so many times. i mean, it toute— york so many times. i mean, it soutt tave— york so many times. i mean, it could have done— york so many times. i mean, it could have done-to- york so many times. i mean, it could have done to ask to get could have done is to ask to get eertatt— could have done is to ask to get eertatt roasts— could have done is to ask to get certain roads blocked. so they eoutt— certain roads blocked. so they soutt go— certain roads blocked. so they could go through. but they otwtousty— could go through. but they obviously _that. could go through. but they- obviously_that. and could go through. but they- obvfact.y_that. and could go through. but they- obv fact that-that. and could go through. but they obv fact that they that. and could go through. but they obv fact that they wereiat. and could go through. but they obv fact that they were goingid the fact that they were going aoutt— the fact that they were going aoutt tor— the fact that they were going around for two— the fact that they were going around for two hours to hide wtere— around for two hours to hide wtere ttey— around for two hours to hide where they were _ around for two hours to hide where they were going is atsotute— where they were going is absolute nonsense. it was 20 mttutes— absolute nonsense. it was 20 rttrutes away.— absolute nonsense. it was 20 minutes away. so— absolute nonsense. it was 20 minutes away. so i mean, it's a ttsaster— minutes away. so i mean, it's a ttsaster. att— minutes away. so i mean, it's a disaster. and they— minutes away. so i mean, it's a disaster. and they have looked

so rootst— disaster. and they have looked so foolish that— disaster. and they have looked so foolish that everybody's matttg— so foolish that everybody's matttg tut— so foolish that everybody's making fun of— so foolish that everybody's making fun of them. �*ftt�*“22 making fun of them. what about tet-s— making fun of them. what about tet-s more— making fun of them. what about let's move on to king charles and his trip to romania. he's going without camilla. he's going without camilla. he's going without camilla. he's going without camilla.- 22 “2 he's going without camilla. he loves tomatta— going without camilla. he loves tomatta .— going without camilla. he loves tomatta . te-s— going without camilla. he loves romania . he's got house there romania. he's got a house there ttat— romania. he's got a house there ttat-tow— romania. he's got a house there ttat-tow tat— romania. he's got a house there that now had furnished. that he's now had furnished. he ttes— that he's now had furnished. he likes-refurbish— that he's now had furnished. he likes refurbish places. likes to refurbish places. i ttttt— likes to refurbish places. i ttttt you— likes to refurbish places. i think you can— likes to refurbish places. i think you can think, oh, gosh, wtat-s— think you can think, oh, gosh, what's happened? you know, ttey-ve— what's happened? you know, ttey-we otty— what's happened? you know, they've only just— what's happened? you know, they've only just got the crown. ttt— they've only just got the crown. ttt are— they've only just got the crown. ttt ttere— they've only just got the crown. and are there arguments ? i'm and are there arguments? i'm ttat-s— and are there arguments? i'm sure that's absolutely not true. camttta— sure that's absolutely not true. camilla would _ sure that's absolutely not true. camilla would be— sure that's absolutely not true. camilla would be delighted to tave— camilla would be delighted to tawe a— camilla would be delighted to tawe a ttt— camilla would be delighted to tawe a ttt ot— camilla would be delighted to have a bit of peace . you can have a bit of peace. you can spent— have a bit of peace. you can spett tt— have a bit of peace. you can spett tt wttt— have a bit of peace. you can spend it with her— have a bit of peace. you can spend it with her children and her grandchildren. and he aetuatty— her grandchildren. and he actually when— her grandchildren. and he actually when there's a drama tte— actually when there's a drama ttte arter— actually when there's a drama like after his— actually when there's a drama like after his mother died and tttngs— like after his mother died and ttttgs tte— like after his mother died and things like that,— like after his mother died and things like that, he needs a lot of things like that, he needs a lot ot sotttartty— things like that, he needs a lot of solidarity and— things like that, he needs a lot of solidarity and he he he needs to te— of solidarity and he he he needs to be on— of solidarity and he he he needs to be on tts— of solidarity and he he he needs to be on his own— of solidarity and he he he needs to be on his own and to walk and to be on his own and to walk and to ttttt— to be on his own and to walk and to ttttt att— to be on his own and to walk and to think and to— to be on his own and to walk and to think and to just— to be on his own and to walk and to think and to just recover trom— to think and to just recover tort tt— to think and to just recover tort t at. — to think and to just recover from it all. and— to think and to just recover from it all. and but the sad stee— from it all. and but the sad stte ts— from it all. and but the sad side is that— from it all. and but the sad side is that was— from it all. and but the sad side is that was it too much for tott— side is that was it too much for tott ot— side is that was it too much for tott ot ttem— side is that was it too much for both of them in— side is that was it too much for both of them in their mid 70s? acts— both of them in their mid 70s? acts mayte. — both of them in their mid 70s? acas maybe. i~ir2g �*ft�*222 acas maybe. maybe. well, the queen kept going on for as long as she did . so queen kept going on for as long as she did. so not queen kept going on for as long as she did . so not sure the back as she did. so not sure the back tau — as she did. so not sure the back tau ttett— as she did. so not sure the back trauma. well yeah,— as she did. so not sure the back trauma. well yeah, it— as she did. so not sure the back trauma. well yeah, it is- trauma. well yeah, it is difficult,— trauma. well yeah, it is difficult, isn't- trauma. well yeah, it is difficult, isn't it? 2

difficult, isn't it? but listen . stay— difficult, isn't it? but listen , stay tuned. thank you very much. angela levin, always a pleasure that is pleasure talking to you. that is angela royal angela levin. she's royal biographer. gb biographer. right. this is gb news on online and on digital news on tv online and on digital radio. more to come in the next hour. houn so good afternoon. it's just gone 5:00. you're with me. i'm nana akua. this is gb news on tv, online and on digital radio for the next hour. me and my panel will be taking on some of the big topics hitting the headunes the big topics hitting the headlines right now on the way at five, i'll joined at five, i'll be joined by a former bank who turned to former bank robber who turned to a crime fund a life of crime to fund his wife's ivf treatment . and then wife's ivf treatment. and then for great british debate for the great british debate this asking, should this hour, i'm asking, should childcare our taxes? childcare come out of our taxes? but get your latest but first, let's get your latest news headlines . good afternoon . news headlines. good afternoon. coming up to 5:01, i'm ray ttttsot— coming up to 5:01, i'm ray ttttsot tt— coming up to 5:01, i'm ray addison in the— coming up to 5:01, i'm ray addison in the newsroom. tttttps— addison in the newsroom. philips schofield - addison in the newsroom. philips schofield has- addison in the newsroom. philips schofield has announced that he's stepping down from

itv's flagship daytime show this morning with immediate effect. itv has confirmed that he won't be returtttg— itv has confirmed that he won't be returning despite two decades at tte— be returning despite two decades at tte tetm— be returning despite two decades at tte tetm .— be returning despite two decades at the helm , with— be returning despite two decades at the helm , with last at the helm, with last thursday's _ at the helm, with last thursday's show being his final apearaep— thursday's show being his final appearance. co—host holly wtttougtty— appearance. co—host holly willoughby will, however, not be teawtg. — willoughby will, however, not be teawtg. ttr— willoughby will, however, not be leaving. mr schofield posted on soetat— leaving. mr schofield posted on soetat tetra— leaving. mr schofield posted on social media saying he wanted to protest— social media saying he wanted to protest tte— social media saying he wanted to protect the show. _ social media saying he wanted to protect the show. he loved . it's protect the show. he loved. it's arter— protect the show. he loved. it's atter tts— protect the show. he loved. it's after his brother,— protect the show. he loved. it's after his brother, timothy setottett— after his brother, timothy schofield was _ after his brother, timothy schofield was jailed for 12 years— schofield was jailed for 12 years arter— schofield was jailed for 12 years after being convicted of otto— years after being convicted of etttt se— years after being convicted of child sex offences . world child sex offences. world teaters— child sex offences. world leaders have— child sex offences. world leaders have welcomed ukraine's presttett— leaders have welcomed ukraine's presttett to— leaders have welcomed ukraine's president to the— leaders have welcomed ukraine's president to the g7— leaders have welcomed ukraine's president to the g7 summit in japan— president to the g7 summit in japan .— president to the g7 summit in japan . soot— president to the g7 summit in japan . soot to— president to the g7 summit in japan . good to see you . 2”2 japan. good to see you. how are youe— japan. good to see you. how are you? teat.— japan. good to see you. how are you? yeah, i'm all right, thanks , guys. volodymyr zelenskyy met wttt— , guys. volodymyr zelenskyy met wttt tte— , guys. volodymyr zelenskyy met wttt tte ut-s— , guys. volodymyr zelenskyy met with the uk's prime— 22.2 volodymyr zelenskyy met with the uk's prime minister, ttstt— with the uk's prime minister, ttstt sweat.— with the uk's prime minister, rishi sunak, who said the invite demonstrated— rishi sunak, who said the invite demonstrated the _ rishi sunak, who said the invite demonstrated the international eortrtuttty— demonstrated the international oomrtuttty tts— demonstrated the international community his steadfast support for community his steadfast support tor utratte— community his steadfast support for ukraine against russian aggresstot— for ukraine against russian aggresstot. — for ukraine against russian aggression . 522 aggression. ian french president emmanuel macron described his presence as a game changer towards peace as well . it's as towards peace as well. it's as the white house has approved

plans to provide f—16 fighter jets to ukraine and to train its pilots. president zelenskyy has repeatedly lobbied western allies for air support and hailed the move as historic, saying it will greatly enhance ukraine's army in the sky. the plans are expected to be rolled out in the coming weeks and months, but russia says it carries colossal risks for the west. well, carries colossal risks for the west . well, meanwhile, the head west. well, meanwhile, the head of west. well, meanwhile, the head ot tussta-s— west. well, meanwhile, the head of russia's wagner— $2222 well, meanwhile, the head of russia's wagner mercenary group— of russia's wagner mercenary group ts— of russia's wagner mercenary group is claiming full control of group is claiming full control ot tte— group is claiming full control of the eastern— group is claiming full control of the eastern ukrainian city of tattrtut— of the eastern ukrainian city of tattrtut . — of the eastern ukrainian city of bakhmut. it's— of the eastern ukrainian city of bakhmut. it's been- of the eastern ukrainian city of bakhmut . 2 “ , bakhmut. it's been the focus of the longest and bloodiest battle of the war. ukraine's deputy defence minister says the situation is critical. all but denies that the city has fallen. the leader of the group , which the leader of the group, which the uk plans to declare as a terrorist organisation , said its terrorist organisation, said its forces will withdraw next week forces will withdraw next week for rest and retrain , saying the for rest and retrain, saying the labour party claims there's been a big jump in the number of people dying in a&e amid record

waiting times . their analysis of waiting times. their analysis of nhs trust figures show that more than 23,000 people died in emergency departments last year. that's a 22% increase on 2021 figures. the government says it's delivering a record number of tests , speeding up discharges of tests, speeding up discharges and cutting waiting lists . and cutting waiting lists. counting continues those in the local elections in northern ireland, with just 40 seats now left to declare, sinn fein has made strong gains and is on course to become the largest party in local government, with 133 councillors. so far. the dup currently has 115 and the alliance party 59. it's the first electoral test for the parties since last year's assembly elections and takes place against the backdrop of the stormont stalemate. our northern ireland reporter dougie beattie says the political landscape in the country is changing as the dup. s landscape in the country is changing as the dup . s vote

landscape in the country is changing as the dup. s vote is down about 1.2%— changing as the dup. s vote is down about 1.2% and- changing as the dup. s vote is down about 1.2% and the- 222 “2 j237�* s vote is down about 1.2% and the dup , down about 1.2% and the dup, wttt— down about 1.2% and the dup, wttet ts— down about 1.2% and the dup, wttet ts tte— down about 1.2% and the dup, which is the very— down about 1.2% and the dup, which is the very liberal uttottst— which is the very liberal unionist party- which is the very liberal unionist party , is down and unionist party, is down and aourt— unionist party, is down and aoutt st.— unionist party, is down and around 3.2. and— unionist party, is down and around 3.2. and the tuv is up at about— around 3.2. and the tuv is up at about to. — around 3.2. and the tuv is up at about to. so— around 3.2. and the tuv is up at about 1.5. so that— around 3.2. and the tuv is up at about 1.5. so that means that ttterat— about 1.5. so that means that liberal unionism _ about 1.5. so that means that liberal unionism is going. they are liberal unionism is going. they teeomttg— liberal unionism is going. they are becoming the— liberal unionism is going. they are becoming the moderate side of are becoming the moderate side ot uttottsts— are becoming the moderate side of unionists, becoming much sertter— of unionists, becoming much sertter att— of unionists, becoming much sterner and they— of unionists, becoming much sterner and they are turning away— sterner and they are turning away tort — sterner and they are turning away from the _ sterner and they are turning away from the good friday agreement. — away from the good friday agreement. this is a massive ttow— agreement. this is a massive ttow tor— agreement. this is a massive blow for anybody— agreement. this is a massive blow for anybody that wants to get stormott— blow for anybody that wants to get stormont up— blow for anybody that wants to get stormont up and running agatn— get stormont up and running again because— get stormont up and running again because chris heaton—harris was always about ttreatetttg— heaton—harris was always about threatening unionists that he woutt— threatening unionists that he woutt go— threatening unionists that he woutt go to— threatening unionists that he would go to another election . ' would go to another election. a tas— would go to another election. a man has scaled— would go to another election. a man has scaled the— would go to another election. a man has scaled the front- would go to another election. a man has scaled the front of the bbc building in central london in protest against a historic statue . the man has been seen statue. the man has been seen hammering at the prospero and ariel statue , which has been on ariel statue, which has been on display since 1933. police and rescue teams are there negotiating with him . negotiating with him. campaigners have been calling for its removal as the sculptor eric gill admitted in his diaries that he had sexually abused his daughters . and police

abused his daughters. and police have seized 15— abused his daughters. and police have seized 15 dogs— abused his daughters. and police have seized 15 dogs and- 2 “ 22 and police have seized 15 dogs and arrested two peopte— have seized 15 dogs and arrested two peopte arter— have seized 15 dogs and arrested two people after a— have seized 15 dogs and arrested two people after a fatal dog attaet— two people after a fatal dog attaet tt— two people after a fatal dog attack in greater manchester. 37 attack in greater manchester. st year— attack in greater manchester. st year ott— attack in greater manchester. 37 year old jonathan- attack in greater manchester. 37 year old jonathan hogg was killed in lee on thursday, 24 year old man was arrested on suspicion of being in charge of a dangerous , out—of—control dog, a dangerous, out—of—control dog, causing death. and a 22 year old woman has also been arrested on suspicion of money laundering . suspicion of money laundering. this is gb news. we'll bring you as t— this is gb news. we'll bring you more as it happens. ' 2 more as it happens. and let's get straight back to nana . get straight back to nana. hello good afternoon. this is gb news— hello good afternoon. this is gb news on— hello good afternoon. this is gb news on w,— hello good afternoon. this is gb news on tv, online_ good afternoon. this is gb news on tv, online and on ttgttat— news on tv, online and on digital radio. _ news on tv, online and on digital radio. i'm nana akua. att— digital radio. i'm nana akua. ttt tor— digital radio. i'm nana akua. ttt tor tte— digital radio. i'm nana akua. and for the next— digital radio. i'm nana akua. and for the next hour, me and my paper— and for the next hour, me and my patet wttt— and for the next hour, me and my paper wttt te— and for the next hour, me and my panel will be taking on some of the panel will be taking on some of tte ttg— panel will be taking on some of tte ttg toptes— panel will be taking on some of the big topics hitting the headlines— the big topics hitting the headlines right now. this show is headlines right now. this show tsiatout— headlines right now. this show tsiatout-rt-s- headlines right now. this show is.about-it's mine,| is all about opinion. it's mine, tts— is all about opinion. it's mine, tt-s ttetrs— is all about opinion. it's mine, it's theirs. and _ is all about opinion. it's mine, it's theirs. and of— is all about opinion. it's mine, it's theirs. and of course it's yous — it's theirs. and of course it's yous tte-tt— it's theirs. and of course it's yours. we'll debating, yours. we'll be debating, ttseussttg— yours. we'll be debating, discussing, times we yours. we'll be debating,- discussing,-times we will discussing, and at times we will ttsagree— discussing, and at times we will ttsagreelto— discussing, and at times we will ttsagreelto ope—

discussing, and at times we will disagree, no one will disagree, but no one will be catered— disagree, but no one will be eateettet .— disagree, but no one will be cancelled . so— disagree, but no one will be cancelled . so joining me today cancelled. so joining me today is cancelled. so joining me today ts troateast— cancelled. so joining me today is broadcast columnist is broadcast from columnist ttzzte— is broadcast from columnist ttzzte cursory.— is broadcast from columnist lizzie cundy, former editor lizzie cundy, also former editor of lizzie cundy, also former editor ot tte— lizzie cundy, also former editor of the labourlist— lizzie cundy, also former editor of the labourlist peter edwards, stru— of the labourlist peter edwards, stttt to— of the labourlist peter edwards, stttt to some— of the labourlist peter edwards, still to come, phillip schofield tas— still to come, phillip schofield has announced— still to come, phillip schofield has announced he's stepping down trom— has announced he's stepping down trot-ttagsttp— has announced he's stepping down from flagship morning show from itv's flagship morning show this from itv's flagship morning show ttts-wttt— from itv's flagship morning show this with immediate this morning with immediate etteet. — this morning with immediate etteet. ttt— this morning with immediate effect. itv has— this morning with immediate effect. itv has also confirmed ttat— effect. itv has also confirmed ttat te— effect. itv has also confirmed ttat te wot-t— effect. itv has also confirmed that he won't be— effect. itv has also confirmed that he won't be returning tesptte— that he won't be returning tesptte two— that he won't be returning despite two decades at the helm . wttt— despite two decades at the helm . wttt tast— despite two decades at the helm , with last thursday's show tetng— , with last thursday's show tettg tts— , with last thursday's show being his last— , with last thursday's show being his last co—host, holly wtttougtty— being his last co—host, holly willoughby will— being his last co—host, holly willoughby will not be leaving ttet— willoughby will not be leaving ttet ot— willoughby will not be leaving ttet ot tte— willoughby will not be leaving then on the way. _ willoughby will not be leaving then on the way. it's this weet-s— then on the way. it's this week's difficult conversation. i'll week's difficult conversation. ttt te— week's difficult conversation. i'll be meeting— week's difficult conversation. i'll be meeting a— week's difficult conversation. i'll be meeting a man who robbed tarts— i'll be meeting a man who robbed tatts tt— i'll be meeting a man who robbed tatts ts tte— i'll be meeting a man who robbed banks in the .to_ i'll be meeting a man who robbed banks in the .to pay— i'll be meeting a man who robbed banks in the to pay for his banks in the us to pay for his wte-s— banks in the us to pay for his wtte-s rvt— banks in the us to pay for his wife's ivf treatment after raetttg— wife's ivf treatment after raetttg up— wife's ivf treatment after racking up debts of almost a quarter— racking up debts of almost a quarter ot— racking up debts of almost a quarter ot tt— racking up debts of almost a quarter of £1 million. now he's ttgttttg— quarter of £1 million. now he's ttgttttg to— quarter of £1 million. now he's ttgttttg to te— quarter of £1 million. now he's fighting to be allowed back into the fighting to be allowed back into tte country— fighting to be allowed back into the country following his imprisonment— imprisonment and subsequent teportattot— imprisonment and subsequent teportattot to— imprisonment and subsequent deportation to the uk and for the deportation to the uk and for tte treat— deportation to the uk and for the great british— deportation to the uk and for the great british debate. this tour.— the great british debate. this tour. ttt— the great british debate. this hour, i'm asking— the great british debate. this hour, i'm asking should childcare— hour, i'm asking should childcare costs come out of our taxese— childcare costs come out of our taxese tory— childcare costs come out of our taxese tory ttt— childcare costs come out of our taxes? tory mp miriam cates starts— taxes? tory mp miriam cates etatrts ttat— taxes? tory mp miriam cates claims that young people failing to tave— claims that young people failing to have babies— claims that young people failing to have babies is— claims that young people failing to have babies is the biggest ttreat— to have babies is the biggest ttreat to— to have babies is the biggest threat to western civilisation. tut— threat to western civilisation. tut reset— threat to western civilisation. but recent research by working tarttttes— but recent research by working families shows— but recent research by working families shows that almost half of families shows that almost half ot wortttg—

families shows that almost half of working parents are being pustet— of working parents are being pustet tto— of working parents are being pushed into debt by childcare sosts — pushed into debt by childcare sosts so— pushed into debt by childcare costs. so should— pushed into debt by childcare costs. so should it actually out— costs. so should it actually out ot— costs. so should it actually come out of our- costs. so should it actually come out of our taxes? email me your— come out of our taxes? email me your ttougtts— come out of our taxes? email me your ttougtts as— come out of our taxes? email me your thoughts as ever. gbviews@gbnews.uk or tweet me at . gb gbviews@gbnews.uk or tweet me at . to news.— gbviews@gbnews.uk or tweet me at . to news. ttgtt— gbviews@gbnews.uk or tweet me at . gb news. right now— gbviews@gbnews.uk or tweet me at . gb news. right now we've been tearttg— . gb news. right now we've been tearttg ttts— . gb news. right now we've been hearing this afternoon tv presenter— hearing this afternoon tv presenter phillip schofield has announced that— presenter phillip schofield has announced that he'll step down trom— announced that he'll step down tort ttt-s— announced that he'll step down from itv's this— announced that he'll step down from itv's this morning with tmrtettate— from itv's this morning with immediate effect . from itv's this morning with immediate effect. in a statement,— immediate effect. in a statement, phillip schofield sart— statement, phillip schofield satt ttts— statement, phillip schofield said this throughout my career in said this throughout my career tt n,— said this throughout my career in tv, including— said this throughout my career in tv, including the very tttttsutt— in tv, including the very difficult last— in tv, including the very difficult last few days, i've atways— difficult last few days, i've atways tote— difficult last few days, i've always done my best to be honourable— always done my best to be honourable and— always done my best to be honourable and kind and i understand— honourable and kind and i understand that itv have decided the understand that itv have decided tte surrept— understand that itv have decided the current situation can't go on. meanwhile,— the current situation can't go on. meanwhile, philip's schofield,— on. meanwhile, philip's schofield, now former co—host totty— schofield, now former co—host holly willoughby, said it's been to— holly willoughby, said it's been to years— holly willoughby, said it's been over 13 years. great years for presettttg— over 13 years. great years for presenting this— over 13 years. great years for presenting this morning with ttt— presenting this morning with tttt .— presenting this morning with tttt . att— presenting this morning with tttt . and r— presenting this morning with phil, and i want to take this opportuttty— phil, and i want to take this opportuttty to— phil, and i want to take this opportunity to thank him for all of opportunity to thank him for all otitnowtetge— opportunity to thank him for all of-knowledge, his- opportunity to thank him for all of knowledge, his experience of his knowledge, his experience and of his knowledge, his experience apt-tumour— of his knowledge, his experience apt-tumour .— of his knowledge, his experience and-humour . the— of his knowledge, his experience and humour. the sofa won't and his humour. the sofa won't teet— and his humour. the sofa won't teet tte— and his humour. the sofa won't teet tte same— and his humour. the sofa won't feel the same without him. well, tet-s— feel the same without him. well, tet-s tave— feel the same without him. well, tet-s tawe a— feel the same without him. well, let's have a chat— feel the same without him. well, let's have a chat with katie tarts.— let's have a chat with katie tarts. ste-s— let's have a chat with katie

banks. she's a— let's have a chat with katie banks. she's a showbiz showbiz tourtattst— banks. she's a showbiz showbiz journalist. katie,— banks. she's a showbiz showbiz journalist. katie, thank you very— journalist. katie, thank you very must— journalist. katie, thank you very must tor— journalist. katie, thank you very much for joining journalist. katie, thank you very much forjoining me. i suppose— very much forjoining me. i suppose tte— very much forjoining me. i suppose the question is, what toes— suppose the question is, what toes tttttp— suppose the question is, what does philip schofield do now? tett.— does philip schofield do now? tett. v— does philip schofield do now? tett. v tttut— does philip schofield do now? well, i think everyone- does philip schofield do now? well, i think everyone will be asking the same question because he's been such a mainstream presenter so long. and i presenter for so long. and i think itv have— presenter for so long. and i think itv have already- 222 and i think itv have already announced that think itv have already announced ttat tett— think itv have already announced ttat tett te— think itv have already announced that he'll be doing— think itv have already announced that he'll be doing another show for that he'll be doing another show tor ttem. — that he'll be doing another show tor test. so— that he'll be doing another show for them. so we'll— that he'll be doing another show for them. 22 2 for them. so we'll have to wait to see which one that is. and then also maybe he- then also maybe he might go town.— then also maybe he might go down. tte— then also maybe he might go down. the reality— then also maybe he might go down. the reality route now tesause— down. the reality route now because-a bit- down. the reality route now because-a bit of. because he's lost a bit of poputartty— because he's lost a bit of popularity during these rumours of popularity during these rumours ot a— popularity during these rumours ot a teut. — popularity during these rumours ot a teut. so— popularity during these rumours of a feud. so maybe- popularity during these rumours of a feud. 2 22 of a feud. so maybe he would do a big show like i'm a celeb or something like that to show people his softer side and maybe get the fans . i get back some of the fans. i can't believe it that you're saytvg— can't believe it that you're sayttg ttat— can't believe it that you're saying that they're going to gtve— saying that they're going to gtve ttt — saying that they're going to give him another show . so what saying that they're going to givearth another show . so what saying that they're going to givearth ? other show . so what saying that they're going to givearth ? 2 etei' show. so what saying that they're going to givearth ? 2 “22ow . so what saying that they're going to givearth ? 2 2v2”so what saying that they're going to givearth ? 2 �*72”what saying that they're going to givearth ? 2 2 on earth? it's not over for phil nana. it's not over. it's clearly not over- nana. it's not over. it's clearly not over for- \22 2 it's clearly not over for us as nana. it's not over. it's- clearly not over for us as well. we— clearly not over for us as well. we tave— clearly not over for us as well. we tave to— clearly not over for us as well. we tave to enjoy— clearly not over for us as well. we have to enjoy him - clearly not over for us as well. we have to enjoy him for- clearly not over for us as well. we have to enjoy him for longer, for goodness sake . i mean, look, for goodness sake. i mean, look, he's been on that sofa. he's been almost two decades. can't itv find some new blood, new talent ? it's over. why don't

talent? it's over. why don't they just. i mean, ijust don't get it . i they just. i mean, ijust don't get it. i think itv will be now on tte— get it. i think itv will be now on tte tutt— get it. i think itv will be now on the hunt for— get it. i think itv will be now on the hunt for new- 222 2 i think itv will be now on the hunt for new talent to tott— on the hunt for new talent to tots potty.— on the hunt for new talent to tots totty. at— on the hunt for new talent to join holly. at the— on the hunt for new talent to join holly. at the moment, the tetng— join holly. at the moment, the names being thrown around are poet— names being thrown around are roet portrtett— names being thrown around are joel dommett, dermot o'leary . joel dommett, dermot o'leary. att— joel dommett, dermot o'leary. ttt ttet— joel dommett, dermot o'leary. and then whether— joel dommett, dermot o'leary. and then whether it's she gets a restate— and then whether it's she gets a female co—host. _ and then whether it's she gets a female co—host. so— and then whether it's she gets a female co—host. so alison tammott— female co—host. so alison hammond is— female co—host. so alison hammond is a— female co—host. so alison hammond is a hot favourite to tate— hammond is a hot favourite to tate over— hammond is a hot favourite to tate .— hammond is a hot favourite to take over . and— hammond is a hot favourite to take over. and then hammond is a hot favourite to take over . and then with phil, take over. and then with phil, ttey-ve— take over. and then with phil, ttey-ve teet— take over. and then with phil, they've been saying that he's ot— they've been saying that he's ot tts— they've been saying that he's one of his the— they've been saying that he's one of his the most influential state— one of his the most influential male broadcasters of his generator— male broadcasters of his geterattot .— male broadcasters of his generation . so i think it will generation. so i think it will be a— generation. so i think it will be a tong— generation. so i think it will be a long time— generation. so i think it will be a long time till we see the ett— be a long time till we see the end ot— be a long time till we see the end ot ttt— be a long time till we see the end of phil because he's still got— end of phil because he's still got a— end of phil because he's still got a tot— end of phil because he's still got a tot ot— end of phil because he's still got a lot of fans— end of phil because he's still got a lot of fans out there and i got a lot of fans out there and v ttttt— got a lot of fans out there and v ttttt te— got a lot of fans out there and i think he said,— got a lot of fans out there and i think he said, i'll see you at tte— i think he said, i'll see you at tte soap— i think he said, i'll see you at the soap awards— i think he said, i'll see you at the soap awards and he'll be desperate— the soap awards and he'll be tesperate to— the soap awards and he'll be desperate to get— the soap awards and he'll be desperate to get another mainstream _ desperate to get another mainstream now i find desperate to get another- mainstream-now i find it mainstream show. now i find it ttsretttty— mainstream show. now i find it incredibly they're— mainstream show. now i find it incredibly they're saying he's ot— incredibly they're saying he's ot tte— incredibly they're saying he's one of the most— incredibly they're saying he's one of the most influential. tes— one of the most influential. tes-ot— one of the most influential. te-s-ot tte— one of the most influential. he's-of the most- one of the most influential. he's-of the most long. he's one of the most long standing. that there standing. but i think that there comes when i don't think comes a point when i don't think the young people interested. comes a point when i don't think the know, people interested. comes a point when i don't think the know, we'ree interested. comes a point when i don't think the know, we're all interested. comes a point when i don't think the know, we're all sick:erested. comes a point when i don't think the know, we're all sick oftsted. comes a point when i don't think the know, we're all sick of it.td. you know, we're all sick of it. he jumping, which he did the queue jumping, which didn't his didn't do much for his popularity. to be frank, popularity. i mean, to be frank, i expected to i would have expected him to have but didn't. have gone then, but he didn't. no, that he was no, i think that he was absolutely— no, i think that he was absolutely desperate to hold on

to tts— absolutely desperate to hold on to tts ttts— absolutely desperate to hold on to his this morning position tesause— to his this morning position tesause tts— to his this morning position because it's such a fantastic job— because it's such a fantastic tot tt— because it's such a fantastic tot ts tte— because it's such a fantastic job in the industry tree and peopte— job in the industry tree and peopte wee— job in the industry tree and people were saying even in the tast— people were saying even in the tast-tays— people were saying even in the last-days that— people were saying even in the last days that didn't last few days that he didn't want— last few days that he didn't wattlteave— last few days that he didn't want-leave this- last few days that he didn't want leave this morning and want to leave this morning and he want to leave this morning and te reatty— want to leave this morning and he really wanted _ want to leave this morning and he really wanted the he really wanted to stay on the sota — he really wanted to stay on the sota _so — he really wanted to stay on the sofa _so what's- he really wanted to stay on the. sofa _so what's been sofa with holly. so what's been going on behind the scenes? i'm not sure, but he decided not sure, but he has decided that leave the show that he wants to leave the show and i think his pr team will be going into overdrive now just to prepare something massive they'll be going into next. but. oh, well, know , thank oh, god. well, you know, thank you—that. - oh, god. well, you know, thank you—that. n-s- you so much for that. it's really— you so much for that. it's really-talk- you so much for that. it's really-talk to- you so much for that. it's really talk to you. you so much for that. it's. really _talk to you. i really good to talk to you. i mean—had- mean, frankly, i've had enough of—w- mean, frankly, i've had enough of—w for. of him. he's been on tv for ages.— of him. he's been on tv for ages-_mind,| ages. listen, i don't mind, but i-understand_ ages. listen, i don't mind, but i-understand-tv- ages. listen, i don't mind, but i understand tv are i don't understand why tv are stin— i don't understand why tv are mu going— i don't understand why tv are mu going to— i don't understand why tv are still going to give him another show.— still going to give him another show—sq show. it just sounds there's so many— show. it just sounds there's so many-great— show. it just sounds there's so many great presenters out many other great presenters out there.— there. listen, thank you so much. — there. listen, thank you so much. n-s— there. listen, thank you so much. it's really good talk much. it's really good to talk to much. it's really good to talki to—much. to you. thank you very much. wen,— to you. thank you very much. well—joined- to you. thank you very much. well,_joined me,l well, if you just joined me, welcome. coming up well, if you just joined me,- welcome.-coming up to welcome. it's just coming up to ii welcome. it's just coming up to n—n-sl 11 minutes after 5:00 and it's now-difficult- now time for difficult conversations. now we're going to meet— conversations. now we're going to meet .— conversations. now we're going to meet a men— conversations. now we're going to meet a man who robbed banks to meet a man who robbed banks eee-me— to meet a man who robbed banks eee-me wife-e— to meet a man who robbed banks to-his wife's ivf- to pay for his wife's ivf treatment— to pay for his wife's ivf treatment after racking up debts of almost— treatment after racking up debts of almost e— treatment after racking up debts of almost a quarter of £1 memen- — of almost a quarter of £1 million. he— of almost a quarter of £1 million. he was born and raised in the— million. he was born and raised in the uk.— million. he was born and raised in the uk. read— million. he was born and raised in the uk. read domingo . he in the uk. read domingo. he turned— in the uk. read domingo. he turned ee— in the uk. read domingo. he turned to crime— in the uk. read domingo. he turned to crime after he and his wife,— turned to crime after he and his wife, patrice— turned to crime after he and his wife, patrice spent— turned to crime after he and his

wife, patrice spent more than $250,000— wife, patrice spent more than $250,000 after— wife, patrice spent more than $250,000 after nine rounds of ivf treatment. _ $250,000 after nine rounds of ivf treatment. now the couple whe— ivf treatment. now the couple who met— ivf treatment. now the couple who met in— ivf treatment. now the couple who met in san— ivf treatment. now the couple who met in san diego when reid moved— who met in san diego when reid mevee ee— who met in san diego when reid moved to me— who met in san diego when reid moved to the us— who met in san diego when reid moved to the us to— who met in san diego when reid moved to the us to work for his eeme-e— moved to the us to work for his eeme-e mm, — moved to the us to work for his father's firm, liquidated their eeeem— father's firm, liquidated their meet me— father's firm, liquidated their assets and remortgaged their meme— assets and remortgaged their house before— assets and remortgaged their house before returned to robbing to house before returned to robbing ee mem— house before returned to robbing ee mem-em— house before returned to robbing ee mem-em me— house before returned to robbing to help off his debts during to help pay off his debts during his crime— to help pay off his debts during his crime spree— to help pay off his debts during his crime spree ,— to help pay off his debts during his crime spree , avoiding his crime spree, avoiding eeume— his crime spree, avoiding eeumg me— his crime spree, avoiding telling his-the- his crime spree, avoiding telling his the truth as telling his wife the truth as me — telling his wife the truth as me wee— telling his wife the truth as she was poorly— telling his wife the truth as she was poorly following several meme— she was poorly following several meme ef— she was poorly following several bouts of treatment. now, although— bouts of treatment. now, although they— bouts of treatment. now, although they were happy and mere— although they were happy and mere m— although they were happy and mere m e— although they were happy and mere m a happy— although they were happy and there is a happy ending to the eeem— there is a happy ending to the eeem |— there is a happy ending to the eeem, l wem-e— there is a happy ending to the story, i won't tell— there is a happy ending to the story, i won't tell you the meme.— story, i won't tell you the ememg. rm— story, i won't tell you the ending. i'm pleased to say that rem— ending. i'm pleased to say that rem eme— ending. i'm pleased to say that mem eeme me— ending. i'm pleased to say that reid joins me now. so let's talk eeem— reid joins me now. so let's talk about me— reid joins me now. so let's talk about the full— reid joins me now. so let's talk about the full story. reid i eem-e— about the full story. reid i eem-e wem— about the full story. reid i don't want to _ about the full story. reid i don't want to ruin the ending. mem— don't want to ruin the ending. mem-neme— don't want to ruin the ending. thank nana yeah, don't don't want to ruin the ending. thanito nana yeah, don't don't want to ruin the ending. thanito nitia yeah, don't don't want to ruin the ending. thanito nit awath, don't don't want to ruin the ending. thanito nit away either»n't don't want to ruin the ending. thanito nit away either yet want to give it away either yet because— want to give it away either yet became-ee— want to give it away either yet because - so what - want to give it away either yet because so what we'd like because it's so what we'd like to mew. — because it's so what we'd like to mew. |— because it's so what we'd like to know. i mean,— because it's so what we'd like to know. " cc to know. i mean, we'll talk to me about it then. so you met your mee— me about it then. so you met your wife m— me about it then. so you met your wife in america. - . cc" so you met your wife in america. you . '“cl�* so you met your wife in america. you went to your wife in america. you went mee-your— your wife in america. you went to-your father's- your wife in america. you went to your father's firm. to work for your father's firm. is to work for your father's firm. m your— to work for your father's firm. is your father— to work for your father's firm. is your father alive? m? is your father still alive? n0, unfortunately, _ is your father still alive? no, unfortunately, passed unfortunately, my father passed about to five years about coming on to five years ago, he was the cause of me ago, but he was the cause of me going i was working going out there. i was working for biochemical company. i for his biochemical company. i had a really good job. everything was great. but i met patrice . she was going through a patrice. she was going through a divorce at the time. she'd had

three children previously . we. three children previously. we. we in love and decided to we fell in love and decided to get married . and obviously after get married. and obviously after getting married , can we have getting married, can we have children ? and obviously, the children? and obviously, the unfortunate thing for us was after her third delivery, she had her tubes cut. oh, no. so we had her tubes cut. oh, no. so we had to obviously circumvent that issue . and as such, we're both issue. and as such, we're both healthy young individuals. they anticipated one round. you guys should have a win . so how old should have a win. so how old was should have a win. so how old meme— should have a win. so how old was patrice at— should have a win. so how old was patrice at the— should have a win. so how old was patrice at the time?- : “ so how old was patrice at the time? '. was patrice at the time? at the me— was patrice at the time? at the time when— was patrice at the time? at the time when we— was patrice at the time? at the time when we when we started the procedure, i believe she was 33. okay that's quite young. yeah, relatively young . but then relatively young. but then basically we tried over five years and we had eight failed attempts. i think the big issue for us with regards to the united states is it's not covered by insurance, right ? covered by insurance, right? one, they consider it to be experimental. in 1992. and also it's elective . if you want it, it's elective. if you want it, you it's elective. if you want it, you pay it's elective. if you want it, you pay for it. so even though it was around $15,000 per cycle, well, you know , we had the well, you know, we had the money. we did it. well, you know, we had the money. we did it . we were money. we did it. we were unsuccessful. we tried again and

tried again. we went through eight failed attempts before finally getting it a success. on our ninth, we had a little angel baby whom we called angelique. angquue baby whom we called angelique. angelique how cute. how cute. but how angelique how cute. how cute. em how we— angelique how cute. how cute. but how did you— angelique how cute. how cute. but how did you fund- ' “gmi m:mi l011 how cute. but how did you fund this then? eeeewee— but how did you fund this then? because you— but how did you fund this then? because wow |— but how did you fund this then? because you i mean, it sounds wk.— because you i mean, it sounds like wow— because you i mean, it sounds like you wem— because you i mean, it sounds like you went all— because you i mean, it sounds like you went all about the memes— like you went all about the homes me— like you went all about the houses to get— like you went all about the houses to get the money. if it's emooo. — houses to get the money. if it's emooo. vee— houses to get the money. if it's $15,000. yes every— houses to get the money. if it's $15,000. yes every time. every time — $15,000. yes every time. every me. me— $15,000. yes every time. every time. and eight— $15,000. yes every time. every time. and eight times 15,000. wee— time. and eight times 15,000. wee mem— time. and eight times 15,000. was that about— time. and eight times 15,000. was that about 150, i suppose. sememmg— was that about 150, i suppose. something like— was that about 150, i suppose. something like that. _ was that about 150, i suppose. something like that. like- was that about 150, i suppose. something like that. like that, yeah. yeah. i suppose . obviously yeah. yeah. i suppose. obviously we did all the usual things, you know, we tried to get a second mortgage on the house. we did rack up about $60,000 in credit card debt . and i think what kind card debt. and i think what kind of precipitated everything for me was that , you know, as me was that, you know, as i said, i worked there for my father. unfortunately my father and i had a bit of a tenuous relationship. and right after angquue relationship. and right after angelique was born , so angelique was born, so i borrowed some money from my dad. i didn't pay him back. borrowed some money from my dad. i didn't pay him back . and he i didn't pay him back. and he told me basically, don't ever call me again. that might sound

a bit harsh, but that was my dad . so then you so you lost the relationship— . so then you so you lost the relationship with— so then you so you lost the relationship with your father? he relationship with your father? we-uwe— relationship with your father? we-wwe me— relationship with your father? he-like he .fairlyl he sounds like he was fairly wemm. — he sounds like he was fairly. wealthy. _company. wealthy. if he had a company. vee— wealthy. if he had a company. we ame— wealthy. if he had a company. yes and yew— wealthy. if he had a company. yes and you were— wealthy. if he had a company. yes and you were working for him and yes and you were working for him ewe—eeme— yes and you were working for him ewe—eeme weu- and you're doing quite well out of-so_ and you're doing quite well out em-se-wew— and you're doing quite well out of-so -you started i of that. so then you started gewmg— of that. so then you started. getting—wemm getting £15,000. at what point did getting £15,000. at what point ewe-eeem— getting £15,000. at what point ewe-eeem trying— getting £15,000. at what point did start trying to rob did you start trying to rob meme— did you start trying to rob wemm me— did you start trying to rob banks to . — did you start trying to rob banks to . yeah.- did you start trying to rob banks to . “mim?“ did you start trying to rob banks to. / f banks to. yeah. so basically we'd now had about success, but the damage was done as i said, i was hundred was probably a good hundred couple thousand in couple of thousand dollars in debt. now and working for debt. now and i was working for a bank at the time right? and as a bank at the time right? and as a consequence, even though i wasn't customer facing , i had to wasn't customer facing, i had to go through all the bank training , one of which was what do you do in the event of a bank robbery? we didn't think about it at that time, but it was basically, you know, a couple of years into it, i wrote all the checks for the household bills as and as i think might have mentioned previously, after patrice gave birth to our little girl , she became incredibly patrice gave birth to our little girl, she became incredibly ill , incredibly ill, to the point that she barely could even get out of bed as a consequence. i

said, look, i'll take over all of the responsibilities of the household and paying the bills, all of that sort of stuff . you all of that sort of stuff. you don't need to worry about that. just yourself our just focus on yourself and our little girl and that was probably the reason why she had noidea probably the reason why she had no idea the actual financial situation that we were in. so how did you go about ’“ ’“ so how did you go about robbing the meme— how did you go about robbing the bemkee me— how did you go about robbing the bemkee me you— how did you go about robbing the banks? did you go— how did you go about robbing the banks? did you go in a balaclava wem— banks? did you go in a balaclava wem em— banks? did you go in a balaclava nana or or did— banks? did you go in a balaclava nana or or did you— banks? did you go in a balaclava nana or or did you or was it emer— nana or or did you or was it some other sort— nana or or did you or was it some other sort of more sort of under— some other sort of more sort of under me— some other sort of more sort of under the radar— some other sort of more sort of under the radar way? \mim under the radar way? no, unfortunately, _ under the radar way? no, unfortunately, it was sort of old school in the sense that i went the bank . went in and i robbed the bank. hey, there's reid. he works eeme— hey, there's reid. he works eeme me— hey, there's reid. he works around the corner. oh, yeah, i understand.— around the corner. oh, yeah, i understand.iyeah_ around the corner. oh, yeah, i understand.iyeah ,- around the corner. oh, yeah, i understand.iyeah , i.- around the corner. oh, yeah, | ufiderstand. 4ng around the corner. oh, yeah, i understand. “mim?“ : understand. yeah, i. i robbed one of our competitors , but. and one of our competitors, but. and i'm not trying to be flippant about it. and first and foremost, i'm not condoning it. and way am i trying to and in no way am i trying to glorify the bank robberies. i was a desperate situation and was in a desperate situation and under a severe for both financial and emotional pressures. you know, my wife was incredibly ill and we didn't know what was wrong with her at that time. but obviously, to rob

a mem— that time. but obviously, to rob a mm m— that time. but obviously, to rob a mm m e— that time. but obviously, to rob a bank is a desperate- c but obviously, to rob a bank is a desperate move and ebwewew— a bank is a desperate move and ebwewew mem— a bank is a desperate move and obviously not promoted that. and i remem— obviously not promoted that. and i respect-mem— obviously not promoted that. and i respect-that-said. i respect the fact that you said mm. — i respect the fact that you said mm. mm— i respect the fact that you said that. but what— i respect the fact that you said that. but what in— i respect the fact that you said that. but what in your head memm— that. but what in your head thought that— that. but what in your head thought that i'm just going to go m— thought that i'm just going to go m eme— thought that i'm just going to go m and mew— thought that i'm just going to go in and rob a— thought that i'm just going to go in and rob a bank like go in and rob a bank and like whee— go in and rob a bank and like wmt—m- go in and rob a bank and like. what—in there what you literally went in there we— what you literally went in there mem-eeem— what you literally went in there just - school style _ what you literally went in there just school style rob just old school style and rob me— just old school style and rob wee-w— just old school style and rob me-w mmw- just old school style and rob the-i think the- just old school style and rob the-i think the thing| the bank. i think the thing through the training that i had, i was made aware there of exactly what was expected of the teller in that situation. and i knew, as i'd been taught , that knew, as i'd been taught, that i didn't need to have a weapon. i didn't need to have a weapon. i didn't need to threaten anybody. i didn't need to do anything to traumatise the teller. all i had to communicate was that i would like the money. simple as as you can tell, i have a very distinct british accent . so when i went british accent. so when i went into the bank , i handed the into the bank, i handed the teller basically a printed note that in essence basically said, stay calm, everything's fine. i would like the money and i'd based because i communicated that every single teller knew exactly what to do. they

basically put the money in front of me. i took the money, put it into a bag. i left my total involvement with the teller was probably less than 30s, but i knew exactly what the teller was going to do. and as such, i knew i didn't need to do anything to threaten or scare the teller into doing what i wanted. but then you got caught. how did you get-ultimately— then you got caught. how did you get ultimately when get caught? ultimately when ewewmme— get caught? ultimately when everything-and- get caught? ultimately when everything and done , i everything was said and done, i reamed— everything was said and done, i reamed-wee— everything was said and done, i realised-was this- everything was said and done, i realised was this was a realised this was this was a me— realised this was this was a we wee— realised this was this was a we e— realised this was this was a this was a dead— realised this was this was a this was a dead end road. gmi. this was a dead end road. i got a job-— this was a dead end road. i got nnw job- mm— this was a dead end road. i got a new job. i'm more— this was a dead end road. i got a new job. i'm more than doubled my salary. we were ready to move on. robbed a bank. now on. i hadn't robbed a bank. now in nine months and i was robbing a bank every single month. previously so you actually doing this previously so you actually doing mm and— previously so you actually doing mm and getting— previously so you actually doing this and getting away— j”tim so you actually doing this and getting away with it? vee- — this and getting away with it? vee- wow— this and getting away with it? vee- wew — this and getting away with it? vee- wew .— this and getting away with it? yes. wow i robbed- this and getting away with it? yes. wow : �*iz�*m i“ yes. wow i robbed 12 banks in total. and after i'd robbed these 12 banks, the fbi was after me and they'd given me a moniker called the motorcycle badman bandit because i used to carry a motorcycle helmet and wear gloves. when i went into the bank. but when i left the bank, i would get into my car or my truck and there were several

bank robberies where i was leaving the bank and i saw the police coming , lights flashing, police coming, lights flashing, sirens blaring , whoosh, drive sirens blaring, whoosh, drive straight past each other because they were looking for a motorcycle . and basically i, motorcycle. and basically i, i got this new job nick gibb and the fbi basically sent the best picture they had of me to every single bank in san diego and la. county. and it was a teller l.a. county. and it was a teller at my personal bank that i'd been banking at for 15 years. exactly as you said. nana. she looked at it and she said, oh my gosh, that's funny. it looks like read. and everybody laughed because as you can see, i'm fairly personal, individual british accent . but she said, oh british accent. but she said, oh la la. and they all went back to work laughing, laughing . there work laughing, laughing. there was at the bank was a new supervisor at the bank and she was the one that called the fbi. and. and what the the fbi. and. and what did the fbi say? what's his name ? and fbi say? what's his name? and that's what started it. and as a consequence, because the fbi had

my name, they were able to subpoena all of my bank records. i had about six accounts spread over three banks. and they were able to see a bank robbery and then, like deposit , deposit, then, like deposit, deposit, deposit, deposit in these various accounts. then everything's quiet . and so they everything's quiet. and so they go bank robbery , deposit, then go bank robbery, deposit, then surely. so they don't want you been— surely. so they don't want you been m— surely. so they don't want you been m we — surely. so they don't want you back in the states— tiqm so they don't want you back in the states now, do you eeme— back in the states now, do you eewe tme— back in the states now, do you eewe wme m— back in the states now, do you serve time in america? doesn't it? serve time in america? doesn't welmen— serve time in america? doesn't welmen-wew- serve time in america? doesn't it? .then -you _to i serve time in america? doesn't. it? .then -you _to the it? so then then you came to the um — it? so then then you came to the um ven— it? so then then you came to the um yew ween— it? so then then you came to the um you mean .— it? so then then you came to the uk. you yeah, i was— it? so then then you came to the uk. you yeah, i was deported. so uk. you yeah, i was deported. se nt— uk. you yeah, i was deported. so at me— uk. you yeah, i was deported. so at we end— uk. you yeah, i was deported. so at the end of— uk. you yeah, i was deported. so at the end of my sentence, i served my full sentence. deported. i was deported plus, i think important to state think it is important to state that all went that when this all went down, i pled guilty. i didn't try to game the system. you had to be mnem— game the system. you had to be enwgnn mewen — game the system. you had to be caught, though. that's- g ema» you had to be caught, though. that's the mine. — caught, though. that's the mmg. wen.— caught, though. that's the thing. �*fwti; caught, though. that's the thing. well, yeah, obviously you didn't yourself. but didn't put yourself. but then when didn't put yourself. but then wnen-wnw— didn't put yourself. but theni wnen-wnw-mew didn't put yourself. but then- when _why-they let when you. so why should they let you-'— when you. so why should they let you-l mean— when you. so why should they let you-i mean,-wouldl you back in? i mean, why would mew— you back in? i mean, why would mew-my— you back in? i mean, why would mew-my wne- you back in? i mean, why would they?-my wife still. they? because my wife still lives so does my lives in america and so does my child. angelique i haven't seen my now, six years. my daughter now, in six years. she was here fulfilling her secondary education and secondary school education and completed all of that , then went completed all of that, then went to united states to fulfil to the united states to fulfil her which she's her career, which she's intending to go into. law enforcement in the united states

and the one of the interesting things i must say actually nana we never told our daughter what happened.so we never told our daughter what happened. so when i disappeared at four years, when she was four years of age and i went to prison, we told our daughter that i was working on a ship. and often , obviously and every so often, obviously the back into port the ship comes back into port and all of the daddies get to see. about the money see. and what about the money that did? did that you of the amount did? did you pay that you of the amount did? did you pay back? you have to pay that back? meme— you have to pay that back? there - restitution . you have to pay that back? . there-restitution that there are some restitution that i united states i still owe the united states government and obviously i will i will pay that back . but it i will pay that back. but it wasn't money because wasn't a lot of money because i robbed the banks by myself . so. robbed the banks by myself. so. so very briefly, because so now, very briefly, because. were—wnat so now, very briefly, because. wen—wnat so now, very briefly, because. we'ouy wn—wnm so now, very briefly, because. we'you up to _what so now, very briefly, because we'you up to now? what so now, very briefly, because we'you up to now? if. are you up to now? so basically , whole that i'm , the whole reason that i'm doing right now doing something right now is i'm trying the injustice trying to right the injustice that us government now dealt that us government has now dealt me. they they basically told me, if you can show us 15 years of clean criminal conduct, we'll let you come back in. i showed them 17 years and they still said no. and that's absolutely counter to their top line. which states that clearly if you can show 15 years, we'll let you

come back. so this is what i'm trying to do right now and i'm trying to do right now and i'm trying to do right now and i'm trying to get the ear of an american politician, probably a republican, because patrice is a registered republican to look into this and write this injustice , because i did injustice, because i did everything the us everything that the us government asked of me. well, yeah. reid listen , it's- g : well, yeah. reid listen , it's really yeah. reid listen, it's really good— yeah. reid listen, it's really need-w— yeah. reid listen, it's really need-w wen. - yeah. reid listen, it's really- good-to wen. _wew good to talk to you. i hope you i good to talk to you. i hope you w—wnm— good to talk to you. i hope you w—wnm wen- good to talk to you. i hope you i_what you wanti i hope you get what you want teeeme— i hope you get what you want because _you've- i hope you get what you want. because _you've _the because actually you've done the mime-nem— because actually you've done the mime-new me— because actually you've done the crime. paid the price and crime. you've paid the price and wen-we— crime. you've paid the price and wen-we eeme— crime. you've paid the price and wen-we done me— crime. you've paid the price and you've done the time afterwards as wet. — you've done the time afterwards as wet. se— you've done the time afterwards as wet. so it— you've done the time afterwards as well. so it would be would be me— as well. so it would be would be te— as well. so it would be would be to te— as well. so it would be would be to we wen— as well. so it would be would be nice to let you back— as well. so it would be would be nice to let you back in. but obviously— nice to let you back in. but obviously-don't- nice to let you back in. but obviously don't condone. no, obviously we don't condone. no, eneetwtew— obviously we don't condone. no, eneewtew-ww— obviously we don't condone. no, absolutely you don't absolutely not. you don't ewnen— absolutely not. you don't ewnen-twm- absolutely not. you don'tj either.-just say absolutely not. you don't- either.-just say one either. so can i just say one last thing? there's a podcast out called time with mr reid that basically tells this whole out called time with mr reid that bandtlly tells this whole out called time with mr reid that band up tells this whole out called time with mr reid that band up tolls this whole out called time with mr reid that band up to that|is whole out called time with mr reid that band up to that point, le story. and up to that point, there's going to be some more seasons. could seasons. but if people could tune in to time with mr reid, apple's spotify, etcetera, they will will get a lot more will they will get a lot more information. interesting reid domingo, thank you- ’i»“ “g reid domingo, thank you very much i»“ “g reid domingo, thank you very much for joining— joining me. thank you, nana okay.— joining me. thank you, nana| ekew—mnee okay. right. well, stay tuned teeeme— okay. right. well, stay tuned because on the— okay. right. well, stay tuned because on the way is the great anten— british debate this hour. i'm newne— british debate this hour. i'm asking-child- british debate this hour. i'm asking, child care costs asking, should child care costs em— asking, should child care costs em em— asking, should child care costs come out of our— asking, should child care costs come out of our taxes ? tory mp come out of our taxes? tory mp winem — come out of our taxes? tory mp winem ewes— come out of our taxes? tory mp miriam cates claims that young

people— miriam cates claims that young people ene— miriam cates claims that young people are failing— miriam cates claims that young people are failing to have nemes— people are failing to have names ,— people are failing to have babies , which— people are failing to have babies , which could be babies, which could be the biggest— babies, which could be the biggest western biggest threat to western civilisation. _ biggest threat to western civilisation. recent civilisation. but recent research by— civilisation. but recent research by working families snowe— research by working families enewe mm— research by working families shows that almost half of working— shows that almost half of working parents are being pushed into—eeme— working parents are being pushed into—care costs.- into debt by child care costs. so into debt by child care costs. so snowe— into debt by child care costs. so should it— into debt by child care costs. so should it come out our so should it come out of our exeee— so should it come out of our texeee wemt— so should it come out of our taxes? we'll discuss that

listening to gb news radio. good afternoon and welcome. this is . good afternoon and welcome. mm is en— . good afternoon and welcome. mm is en new— . good afternoon and welcome. this is gb news on— - good afternoon and welcome. this is gb news on tv,— good afternoon and welcome. this is gb news on tv, online and digital radio. i'm nana and on digital radio. i'm nana akua. and on digital radio. i'm nana akua . and it's time now for the akua. and it's time now for the great british debate. so what do you think i'm asking? should childcare come out of our taxes now? earlier this week, tory mp miriam cates told the national conservative conference that young people failing to have babies is the biggest threat to western civilisation . another western civilisation. another mp, danny kruger, said mp, speaker, danny kruger, said that the reluctance to have kids was due to the selfish me generation. but some women have claimed that it's about the money and recent research for working families shows that

almost half of working parents have been pushed into debt by child care costs and at the moment they can get some free childcare for very young children. it's not as children. but it's not as comprehensive as schooling . and comprehensive as schooling. and according to the family, childcare trust, it costs more than £14,000 a year. that's right. to keep children under the age of two. in nursery. and that's as the average cost of raising a child has risen to roughly £200,000. and all of this comes after boris johnson has announced that he's expecting his eighth child. and i think it's eighth. so for the great british debate this hour, i'm asking, should child care costs come out of our taxes ? costs come out of our taxes? right. well, i'm joined now by beunda right. well, i'm joined now by belinda de lucy. she's a former brexit party mep and political commentator rebecca reed, author and broadcaster. i'm going to start with you, belinda . you've start with you, belinda. you've got five kids, five. oh, my god . and how did you pay for all of them? just for is it four? i've added an extra. that'll be your husband, though . yeah, exactly . husband, though. yeah, exactly. he's definitely a child. yes.

wnw— he's definitely a child. yes. how we— he's definitely a child. yes. how me you— he's definitely a child. yes. how did you manage to pay for that? i did you what went that? i mean, did you what went what with you ? well, what happened with you? well, i'm a very old fashioned girl, and i knew when i had children , and i knew when i had children, i would be a stay at home mum and live within my means and compromise on things so that i could stay at home and look after the two little ones. but when i had my third- when i had my third child, i was enme— when i had my third child, i was ewe te— when i had my third child, i was ewe w newe— when i had my third child, i was able to have some— when i had my third child, i was able to have some help with the eminen— able to have some help with the enienen. se— able to have some help with the enienen. so .— able to have some help with the children. so i do— able to have some help with the children. so i do feel very mew— children. so i do feel very new m— children. so i do feel very lucky in that. - children. so i do feel very lucky in that. mmig children. so i do feel very lucky in that. wig »i»»: lucky in that. but i'm very old fashioned in the sense that i think the less the state interferes in rearing our children , the better and the children, the better and the healthier for society . motty healthier for society. motty especially as the - i motty especially as the educational eeem— especially as the educational sector nowadays— especially as the educational sector nowadays is , is heavily sector nowadays is, is heavily neutemee— sector nowadays is, is heavily politicised and _ sector nowadays is, is heavily politicised and children are being— politicised and children are being exposed— politicised and children are being exposed to all sorts of memmt— being exposed to all sorts of harmful ideologies that they snowmen-t— harmful ideologies that they shouldn't be.— harmful ideologies that they shouldn't be. and the more time eminen— shouldn't be. and the more time enienen mew— shouldn't be. and the more time children stay at— shouldn't be. and the more time children stay at home with their memen— children stay at home with their memem ,— children stay at home with their memem , n— children stay at home with their mothers , if they— children stay at home with their mothers , if they can afford to , mothers, if they can afford to, me— mothers, if they can afford to, me newer. — mothers, if they can afford to, the better. however, i recognise mm— the better. however, i recognise mm neweeewe— the better. however, i recognise that nowadays the— the better. however, i recognise that nowadays the cost of living is ee— that nowadays the cost of living n so high— that nowadays the cost of living n so high mm— that nowadays the cost of living is so high that women are being memen—

is so high that women are being fenced mte— is so high that women are being forced into work— is so high that women are being forced into work and the old eemmwnnw— forced into work and the old community, you— forced into work and the old community, you know, it takes a village— community, you know, it takes a wuege te— community, you know, it takes a village to raise— community, you know, it takes a village to raise a— community, you know, it takes a village to raise a child culture mm— village to raise a child culture mm |— village to raise a child culture mm w grew— village to raise a child culture mm w grew up— village to raise a child culture that i grew up in— village to raise a child culture that i grew up in the 80s is no longer— that i grew up in the 80s is no mengem entw— that i grew up in the 80s is no longer really prevalent. famine— longer really prevalent. families move away from each omen— families move away from each omen ee— families move away from each omen ee wen— families move away from each other, so you can't— families move away from each other, so you can't go and spend time— other, so you can't go and spend time wim— other, so you can't go and spend time wnn wow— other, so you can't go and spend time with your auntie while your wem— time with your auntie while your wem te— time with your auntie while your mum went to work.— time with your auntie while your mum went to work. so we do need to newness— mum went to work. so we do need to address it.— mum went to work. so we do need to address it. and— mum went to work. so we do need to address it. and the birth mte— to address it. and the birth mete-m- to address it. and the birth rate-in this- to address it. and the birth. rate-in this country rate is too low in this country ene— rate is too low in this country and ne— rate is too low in this country and m long— rate is too low in this country and m long ee— rate is too low in this country and as long as it— rate is too low in this country and as long as it keeps falling newn— and as long as it keeps falling down me— and as long as it keeps falling down, the more— and as long as it keeps falling down, the more the government wm— down, the more the government wit justify— down, the more the government will justify massive immigration eetem— will justify massive immigration eetem te— will justify massive immigration action to fill— will justify massive immigration action to fill fill— will justify massive immigration action to fill fill the family deeme— action to fill fill the family decline here. _ action to fill fill the family decline here. and that's not neewnw— decline here. and that's not neewnw men— decline here. and that's not healthy for the _ decline here. and that's not healthy for the society either . healthy for the society either. so healthy for the society either. so we — healthy for the society either. so we we — healthy for the society either. so we do need— healthy for the society either. so we do need to— healthy for the society either. so we do need to encourage people— so we do need to encourage people w— so we do need to encourage people me newe— so we do need to encourage people to have more children, wnen— people to have more children, wmen mew— people to have more children, which may mean— people to have more children, which may mean the taxpayer has to which may mean the taxpayer has tee-mte— which may mean the taxpayer has te-ime men— which may mean the taxpayer has to-into their pocket— which may mean the taxpayer has to into their pocket a bit to dip into their pocket a bit ene— to dip into their pocket a bit nne-wim— to dip into their pocket a bit and with childcare costs and help with childcare costs for and help with childcare costs men mose— and help with childcare costs for those who _ and help with childcare costs for those who can't afford it. interesting.— for those who can't afford it. interesting, there— for those who can't afford it. interesting, there was- for those who can't afford it. interesting, there was a - for those who can't afford it. interesting, there was a single mum though. that's that's what you there. it's not harder you said there. it's not harder if you're a single mum. rebecca reed harder. yeah. i'm a reed much harder. yeah. i'm a single mum so my situation is that i have astronomical childcare costs and i will not, i'm not planning to have another child even , you know, i could do

child even, you know, i could do a loan. i might meet somebody else. but realistically, having seen how financially crippling it is, i adore my daughter more than anything in this than anything else in this world, can't afford to world, but i can't afford to have and i am a have another one. and i am a middle class. well woman middle class. well paid woman and person who the and the kind of person who the tories would like to have children. white and british tories would like to have chiltthe. white and british tories would like to have chiltthe rightwhite and british tories would like to have chiltthe right kind and british tories would like to have chiltthe right kind ofid british tories would like to have chiltthe right kind of woman h tories would like to have chiltthe right kind of woman and and the right kind of woman and i'm to have more i'm not going to have more babies my nice girl babies. and all of my nice girl mende— babies. and all of my nice girl friends we— babies. and all of my nice girl friends are the— babies. and all of my nice girl friends are the same- and all of my nice girl friends are the same because meme— friends are the same because were in— friends are the same because were in e— friends are the same because there is a certain— friends are the same because there is a certain quality of me— there is a certain quality of me wen— there is a certain quality of life you want— there is a certain quality of life you want to _ there is a certain quality of life you want to give your enun— life you want to give your min-mm— life you want to give your child.-i'm not- life you want to give your child. i'm not talking about child. and i'm not talking about newne— child. and i'm not talking about private education— child. and i'm not talking about private education or having a range— private education or having a. renee—etem range rover. i'm talking about not range rover. i'm talking about net—ene- range rover. i'm talking about net—nne beingl range rover. i'm talking about. not—and being able range rover. i'm talking about nooccasionally and being able range rover. i'm talking about nooccasionally sayind being able range rover. i'm talking about no occasionally say yes3eing able range rover. i'm talking about no occasionally say yes ,3ing able range rover. i'm talking about no occasionally say yes , you able range rover. i'm talking about no occasionally say yes , you cant to occasionally say yes, you can newe— to occasionally say yes, you can me n— to occasionally say yes, you can me a magazine— to occasionally say yes, you can have a magazine at— to occasionally say yes, you can have a magazine at shop and have a magazine at the shop and newne— have a magazine at the shop and meme-enme— have a magazine at the shop and maybe-ablelgo- have a magazine at the shop and maybe-ablelgo on- maybe being able to go on holiday— maybe being able to go onj holiday—that's holiday once a year. that's mandam— holiday once a year. that's standard of— holiday once a year. that's standard of living. that was nnew— standard of living. that was new wnen— standard of living. that was fairly typical in— standard of living. that was fairly typical in 90 fairly typical in my 90 childhood.— fairly typical in my 90 childhood. now feels aspirational- childhood. now feels aspirational and like i would newe— aspirational and like i would me te— aspirational and like i would have to compromise on that to be enme— have to compromise on that to be ewe te— have to compromise on that to be ewe w newe— have to compromise on that to be able to have more— have to compromise on that to be able to have more than one enun— able to have more than one child. that's— able to have more than one child. that's an— able to have more than one child. that's an extraordinary etete— child. that's an extraordinary mete em— child. that's an extraordinary mete of-m- child. that's an extraordinary state of no wonder state of affairs. no wonder neente— state of affairs. no wonder peopte-newne- state of affairs. no wonder people having babies. i people aren't having babies. i minn— people aren't having babies. i mink-nonw— people aren't having babies. i think irony, though, that think the irony, though, is that danny— think the irony, though, is that denny-eauew- think the irony, though, is that danny-called it- think the irony, though, is that danny called it selfish, danny kruger called it selfish, and— danny kruger called it selfish, nne-me— danny kruger called it selfish, and me generation people not and the me generation people not having— and the me generation people not newng-w-e— and the me generation people not having-it's inherent- and the me generation people not having it's inherent . having children. it's inherent. me— having children. it's inherent. me meet— having children. it's inherent. the most selfish— having children. it's inherent. the most selfish thing you can do the most selfish thing you can ee-enie. — the most 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we— creating an avatar of yourself. it's fundamentally act it's fundamentally a selfish act . me— it's fundamentally a selfish act . me memen— it's fundamentally a selfish act . the reason my— it's fundamentally a selfish act . the reason my friends aren't newne— . the reason my friends aren't newne-m— . the reason my friends aren't having-is because. having children is because mew-ne— having children is because they're - selfish. - having children is because they're selfish. they don't they're not selfish. they don't meet— they're not selfish. they don't feel—give- they're not selfish. they don't feel—give mel feel that they can give the mem— feel that they can give the mem me— feel that they can give the right life to _ feel that they can give the right life to a— feel that they can give the right life to a child and therefore— right life to a child and therefore are- right life to a child and therefore are choosing not to newe— therefore are choosing not to nave—enem- therefore are choosing not toi have _ about what therefore are choosing not to- have _ about what about have kids. what about what about what belinda said about state intervention , though? she said what belinda said about state inte more on , though? she said what belinda said about state intemore the though? she said what belinda said about state intemore the less|gh? she said what belinda said about state intemore the less the she said what belinda said about state inte more the less the state ;aid the more the less the state intervene is a good thing. but as parent, you need as as a single parent, you need as much i much help as you can get. i mean, would say to her mean, what would you say to her on you agree? i mean, on that? do you agree? i mean, i am into as on that? do you agree? i mean, i am _into as little- am also very into as little intervention— am also very into as little intervention from the state as nwmenw— intervention from the state as humanly possible, from intervention from the state as humatheyossible, from intervention from the state as humathey give le, from intervention from the state as humathey give me from intervention from the state as humathey give me money. m intervention from the state as humathey give me money. ndon't when they give me money. i don't wem— when they give me money. i don't mn—- when they give me money. i don't wmn— wttnl want that money to go on with. i went— want that money to go on with. i went-te— want that money to go on with. i went-te-t- want that money to go on with. i want-to-i don't- want to have to go to i don't went— want to have to go to i don't want my— want to have to go to i don't want my children— want to have to go to i don't want my children to have be want my children to have to be in want my children to have to be tn e— want my children to have to be tn e etete— want my children to have to be in a state nursery— want my children to have to be in a state nursery where i have no in a state nursery where i have newee-n— in a state nursery where i have newene-n tnew- in a state nursery where i have no _where they go. - no choice, where they go. i went— no choice, where they go. i wemt-t— no choice, where they go. i would-i still- no choice, where they go. i would i still like the would like i still like the current— would like i still like the current-is- would like i still like the current-is that. would like i still like the current is that you would like i still like the- current-is that you get current system is that you get to current system is that you get te eeeene— current system is that you get to choose the— current system is that you get to choose the nursery. your ente— to choose the nursery. your emit—wen- to choose the nursery. your tmtt—wen eet| child goes to and you get a eettetn— child goes to and you get a eetem-et- child goes to and you get a certain-of free- child goes to and you get a certain of free hours, certain number of free hours, tnt— certain number of free hours, tut-eet— certain number of free hours, tut-eetlenen- but you still get to shop around for but you still get to shop around ten—went— but you still get to shop around ten—went-te- but you still get to shop around ten—went-te gol but you still get to shop aroundi for—want-to go . for where you want them to go. wnet— for where you want them to go. wnat—towe- for where you want them to go. wnat—tote te- for where you want them to go. i what—love islsystem what i wouldn't love is a system wnene— what i wouldn't love is a system wnene tt— what i wouldn't love is a system wnene tt wen— what i wouldn't love is a system where if you are— what i wouldn't love is a system where if you are on— what i wouldn't love is a system where if you are on a lower meemenee-t- where if you are on a lower. income-need-help, income or you need the help, you tnen— income or you need the help, you ttem—wem— income or you need the help, you then—your child- income or you need the help, you then—your child in. income or you need the help, you then _your child in a. then have to put your child in a eneettte— then have to put your child in a specific nursery— then have to put your child in a specific nursery because then you— specific nursery because then wen—eett- you don't. and that's sort of new— you don't. and that's sort of new-wttn- you don't. and that's sort of how with schools, how it works with schools, nette— how it works with schools,- nente—wnet-e right? you know, we saw what's her right? you know, we saw what's net-nutme— right? you know, we saw what'sj her-bubble-saying right? you know, we saw what's her other bubble saying right? you know, we saw what's her other day, ble saying right? you know, we saw what's her other day,ble your saying right? you know, we saw what's her other day,ble your kids ng the other day, take your kids ent— the other day, take your kids out-tenettts- the other day, take your kids out-schools as- the other day, take your kids out-schools as if- out of woke schools as if ewewtetw— out of woke schools as if- everybody—schools. everybody has multiple schools.

they— everybody has multiple schools. mew-tmett— everybody has multiple schools. they _their child - everybody has multiple schools. they their child in. and they can put their child in. and i they can put their child in. and . ten-t— they can put their child in. and . ten-t went— they can put their child in. and i don't want that— they can put their child in. and i don't want that situation. i tntnt— i don't want that situation. i. tntnt—tnet think it's really important that patente— think it's really important that patents-e— think it's really important that patents-e nent- think it's really important that parents a right to put parents have a right to put ttett— parents have a right to put ttett-tn— parents have a right to put| their-in-school their children in the school tnat— their children in the school tnat-te-tenl that they feel is right for men. — that they feel is right for them. _it'll- that they feel is right for them. _it'll be- that they feel is right for them. it'll be a school them. often it'll be a school tnat— them. often it'll be a school that-dreadful.- them. often it'll be a school that never dreadful. them. often it'll be a school that never puteadful. them. often it'll be a school that never put myful. them. often it'll be a school that never put my child in some would never put my child in some of would never put my child in some et—tnet— would never put my child in some et—tnet peopte- would never put my child in some of_that people think. of the schools that people think are brilliant, but it's a patent-e— are brilliant, but it's a parent's right to choose. tettntt— parent's right to choose. belinda-do- parent's right to choose. belinda - do you - parent's right to choose. i belinda-do you think parent's right to choose. belinda do you think then belinda what do you think then of idea the money for of an idea that the money for nurseries would actually come out of taxes? so just like a school, people could send their kids to that and that would be in your taxes, which would avoid kids to that and that would be in yproblems which would avoid kids to that and that would be in yproblems whicrebecca avoid kids to that and that would be in yproblems whicrebecca is oid the problems that rebecca is talking are the talking about, which are the astronomical put astronomical costs which put people another people off of having another child. the problem i have, child. so the problem i have, i suppose, again , it's very old suppose, again, it's very old fashioned is that what the government is saying is that the only value women have in society is an economic one and therefore we just need to get as many out into as possible. and into work as possible. and i think that is devaluing- think that is devaluing motherhood- think that is devaluing motherhood and the role women play— motherhood and the role women ntew tn— motherhood and the role women play tn rearing— motherhood and the role women play in rearing young ones and tween— play in rearing young ones and toddlers before— play in rearing young ones and toddlers before they go to eeneet. — toddlers before they go to school. and _ toddlers before they go to school. and the massive impact tnat— school. and the massive impact tnet etn— school. and the massive impact tnet newe— school. and the massive impact that can have on— school. and the massive impact that can have on the early years . ant— that can have on the early years . ant ee— that can have on the early years . ant ee .— that can have on the early years . ant ee ., .— that can have on the early years . and so i, i wish— that can have on the early years . and so i, i wish that there

were more tax— . and so i, i wish that there were more tax breaks for metnem — were more tax breaks for metnem se— were more tax breaks for mothers. so they could at least newe— mothers. so they could at least newe tne— mothers. so they could at least have the choice— mothers. so they could at least have the choice of— mothers. so they could at least have the choice of staying at neme— have the choice of staying at neme ent— have the choice of staying at home and rearing their children. i home and rearing their children. . etee— home and rearing their children. . etee tntnt— home and rearing their children. i also think childcare costs in tne— i also think childcare costs in tne uk— i also think childcare costs in tne wt ene— i also think childcare costs in tne wt ee— i also think childcare costs in the uk are so crazy high compared— the uk are so crazy high compared to— the uk are so crazy high compared to other countries teeeme— compared to other countries because we have far too strict wtee— because we have far too strict mtee en— because we have far too strict mtee en tne— because we have far too strict rules on the child— because we have far too strict rules on the child carer to emit— rules on the child carer to child ratio— rules on the child carer to child ratio and— rules on the child carer to child ratio and we have 5 mitten— child ratio and we have 5 million brits— child ratio and we have 5 million brits that were paying not million brits that were paying net te— million brits that were paying net to went— million brits that were paying not to work rather than mobilising_ not to work rather than mobilising them to help with ttett— mobilising them to help with staff shortages— mobilising them to help with staff shortages in the public teeter— staff shortages in the public sector tnat— staff shortages in the public sector that can— staff shortages in the public sector that can reduce costs, wnen— sector that can reduce costs, wnten eeem— sector that can reduce costs, which again importing, tmnemttne— which again importing, importing, importing a workforce wnen— importing, importing a workforce wnten te— importing, importing a workforce which is increasing the housing enem— which is increasing the housing wnen— which is increasing the housing crisis, which is— which is increasing the housing crisis, which is then reducing counten— crisis, which is then reducing eewntee, wen— crisis, which is then reducing couples, you know , determination couples, you know, determination to couples, you know, determination te newe— couples, you know, determination to note moe— couples, you know, determination to have more children because tnew— to have more children because tnew eon-t— to have more children because they can't afford— to have more children because they can't afford a— to have more children because they can't afford a house. this is they can't afford a house. this to o— they can't afford a house. this is a horrible— they can't afford a house. this is a horrible circle. finally, teteeen— is a horrible circle. finally, rebecca, we've got about 20s over to you. last, last, last word to you. reducing child care tattoo— word to you. reducing child care nottoe itet— word to you. reducing child care ratios just makes— : reducing child care ratios just makes nurseries shut town— ratios just makes nurseries shut down, unfortunately, and it motes— down, unfortunately, and it motes-eete- down, unfortunately, and it makes-safe .- down, unfortunately, and it makes-safe . so| down, unfortunately, and it- makes-safe . so there down, unfortunately, and it- mai

we all know this is a problem. we it needs solving. we all know it needs solving. wett— we all know it needs solving. wett. unten— we all know it needs solving. well, listen, rebecca,- we all know it needs solving. well, listen, rebecca, do- we all know it needs solving. well, listen, rebecca, do you think the taxpayer, though, should other should fork out for other people's or do you people's children or do you think they should parents should people's children or do you thinkaiey should parents should people's children or do you think aiey more d parents should people's children or do you thinkaiey more responsibility.ild have a bit more responsibility. i they yeah. yes, i think they should, yeah. yes, i think they should, yeah. yes, i they should. because, i think they should. because, you— i think they should. because, you to— i think they should. because, you to wont— i think they should. because, you do want more you're you do want more babies. you're going— you do want more babies. you're gong-to— you do want more babies. you're going-to pav— you do want more babies. you're gotng-to new ton- you do want more babies. you're going to pay for more going to have to pay for more tomes.— going to have to pay for more names. tnat— going to have to pay for more babies. that is— going to have to pay for more babies. that is the rule. towetw— babies. that is the rule. towetw-wow- babies. that is the rule. lovely. you very lovely. thank you very much. teteoen— lovely. thank you very much. rebecca - also - lovely. thank you very much. rebecca - also to - lovely. thank you very much. i rebecca-also to belinda rebecca read and also to belinda de so you de lucy. right. so what do you think is news on think then? this is gb news on tv, online and on. on on digital radio. asking , do you think radio. i'm asking, do you think that the taxpayer should fork out for your to take them out for your kids to take them to nursery? i'm nana akua. we've got loads to we'll be got loads more to come. we'll be discussing great discussing that in the great british debate. so should childcare taxes? childcare come out of our taxes? you'll thoughts my you'll hear the thoughts of my panel you'll hear the thoughts of my panel, columnist panel, broadcaster and columnist lizzie editor lizzie cundy, also former editor of labourlist, peter of the labourlist, peter edwards. get edwards. but first, let's get your news headlines . your latest news headlines. 5:33. i'm ray addison. phillip senottett— 5:33. i'm ray addison. phillip schofield has— 5:33. i'm ray addison. phillip schofield has announced that nee— schofield has announced that men etenntng— schofield has announced that he's stepping down from itv's ttogentn— he's stepping down from itv's flagship daytime— he's stepping down from itv's flagship daytime am show this momtne— flagship daytime am show this momtne wttn— flagship daytime am show this morning with immediate effect. itv morning with immediate effect. ttv noe— morning with immediate effect. itv has confirmed— morning with immediate effect. itv has confirmed that he won't be netwntng—

itv has confirmed that he won't be returning despite two decades at tne— be returning despite two decades at tne tetm— be returning despite two decades at the helm with— be returning despite two decades at the helm with last thursday's enteote— at the helm with last thursday's enteote tetng— at the helm with last thursday's episode being his— at the helm with last thursday's episode being his final aeannmeane— episode being his final appearance. co—host holly wtttowgntw— appearance. co—host holly willoughby will not be leaving . willoughby will not be leaving. snee— willoughby will not be leaving. she's responded,— willoughby will not be leaving. she's responded, saying the sofa won-t— she's responded, saying the sofa won-t teet— she's responded, saying the sofa won-t teet tne— she's responded, saying the sofa won't feel the same without him . en— won't feel the same without him . en eoetat— won't feel the same without him . on social media,— won't feel the same without him . on social media, mr schofield eate— . on social media, mr schofield eatt ne— . on social media, mr schofield said he wanted— . on social media, mr schofield said he wanted to— . on social media, mr schofield said he wanted to protect the snow— said he wanted to protect the snow tnat— said he wanted to protect the snow tnat ne — said he wanted to protect the show that he loved. it comes atten— show that he loved. it comes atten me— show that he loved. it comes after his brother,— show that he loved. it comes after his brother, timothy senottett— after his brother, timothy schofield was _ after his brother, timothy schofield was jailed for 12 weane— schofield was jailed for 12 wean atten— schofield was jailed for 12 years after being convicted of ento— years after being convicted of mid eet— years after being convicted of child sex offences . well, world child sex offences. well, world teaten— child sex offences. well, world leaders have— child sex offences. well, world leaders have welcomed ukraine's tneettent— leaders have welcomed ukraine's tneettent to— leaders have welcomed ukraine's president to the— leaders have welcomed ukraine's president to the g7— leaders have welcomed ukraine's president to the g7 summit in japan— president to the g7 summit in japan .— president to the g7 summit in japan . new— president to the g7 summit in japan . new, tte— president to the g7 summit in japan . hey, it's good to see you japan. hey, it's good to see you . wow— japan. hey, it's good to see you . wow ae— japan. hey, it's good to see you . wow you?— japan. hey, it's good to see you . how are you? yeah,- japan. hey, it's good to see you . how are you? yeah, i'm all right. thanks hi, guys. vototwmw— g“. hi, guys. volodymyr zelenskyy , g“. hi, guys. volodymyr zelenskyy met with right. thanks hi, guys.— volodymyr zelenskyy met with the wte— volodymyr zelenskyy met with the we enme— volodymyr zelenskyy met with the uk's prime minister, rishi santn— uk's prime minister, rishi swnat, wno— uk's prime minister, rishi sunak, who said the invite demonstrated— sunak, who said the invite demonstrated the international eommwnttw-e— demonstrated the international community's steadfast support for community's steadfast support to unname— community's steadfast support for ukraine against russian aggmeeeton— for ukraine against russian aggmeeeton. — for ukraine against russian aggression . for ukraine against russian aggression. french president emmanuel macron described his presence as a game changer towards peace . well , it's presence as a game changer towards peace . well, it's as presence as a game changer towards peace . well , it's as the towards peace. well, it's as the wntte— towards peace. well, it's as the we wome— towards peace. well, it's as the white house approved- : i well, it's as the white house approved plans to nnowtte— white house approved plans to nmowtte t—te— white house approved plans to provide f—16 fighter jets to unname— provide f—16 fighter jets to ukraine and— provide f—16 fighter jets to

ukraine and to— provide f—16 fighter jets to ukraine and to train its pilots. pendent— ukraine and to train its pilots. president zelenskyy _ ukraine and to train its pilots. president zelenskyy has- president zelenskyy has repeatedly lobbied western allies for air support and hailed the move as historic , hailed the move as historic, saying it will greatly enhance ukraine's army in the sky. the plans are expected to be rolled out in the coming weeks, but russia says it carries colossal risks for the west . and counting risks for the west. and counting is continuing in the local elections in northern ireland, with just 40 seats left to declare . sinn fein is on course declare. sinn fein is on course to become the largest party in local government , with 133 local government, with 133 councillors so far. the dup currently has 115 and the alliance party 59. it's the first electoral test for the parties since last year's assembly elections and the labour party claims there's been a big jump in the number of people dying in a&e amid record waiting times. their analysis of nhs trust figures show that more than 23,000 people died in emergency departments last year.

that's a 22% increase on 2021 figures. the government says it's delivering a record number of tests, speeding up discharges and cutting waiting lists. we're on tv online, on dab+ radio and on tv online, on dab+ radio and on tune in to this is gb news. nana we'll be back in just a moment . moment. thank you, ray. still to come, enme— thank you, ray. still to come, prime minister— thank you, ray. still to come, prime minister rishi- pitt still to come, prime minister rishi sunak 33 still to come, prime minister rishi sunak has etatmet— prime minister rishi sunak has etatmet tnat— prime minister rishi sunak has claimed that britain no longer intoee— claimed that britain no longer iwtgee peopte— claimed that britain no longer judges people by how much money they judges people by how much money tnew nave— judges people by how much money tnew nave tn— judges people by how much money they have in their— judges people by how much money they have in their bank. is the nutte— they have in their bank. is the nwttte ae— they have in their bank. is the patio ae tne— they have in their bank. is the public. as the public has moved beyond— public. as the public has moved beyond tnat. — public. as the public has moved beyond that. we're— public. as the public has moved beyond that. we're discussing tnat— beyond that. we're discussing tnat ant— beyond that. we're discussing that and we'll— beyond that. we're discussing that and we'll be— beyond that. we're discussing that and we'll be going through our that and we'll be going through meat— that and we'll be going through our great british— that and we'll be going through our great british debate after the

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let's see. so joining— what do you think? let's see. so joining me— what do you think? let's see. so joining me earlier— what do you think? let's see. so joining me earlier this week, tow— joining me earlier this week, tow att— joining me earlier this week, tory mp miriam— joining me earlier this week, tory mp miriam cates told the wattonat— tory mp miriam cates told the national conservative conference tnat— national conservative conference tnat-peopte— national conservative conference that people choosing not that young people choosing not to note— that young people choosing not to have babies— that young people choosing not to have babies is— that young people choosing not to have babies is the biggest tmett— to have babies is the biggest tnneat to— to have babies is the biggest threat to mankind and or to the western— threat to mankind and or to the western civilisation . recent western civilisation. recent research also _ western civilisation. recent research also shows that almost natt— research also shows that almost natt ot— research also shows that almost half of working— research also shows that almost half of working parents have teen— half of working parents have teen nonmet— half of working parents have been pushed into debt by enttteane— been pushed into debt by childcare-.- been pushed into debt by childcare-. i- been pushed into debt by childcare . i know all childcare costs. i know all about— childcare costs. i know all about that. _ childcare costs. i know all about that. a— childcare costs. i know all about that. a nightmare. i was a emote— about that. a nightmare. i was a emote mm— about that. a nightmare. i was a emote mum-tt— about that. a nightmare. i was a single mum. it. cost me single mum. got it. cost me a tontwne— single mum. got it. cost me a tontwne .— single mum. got it. cost me a tontwne . twe— single mum. got it. cost me a fortune . i've only— single mum. got it. cost me a fortune . i've only managed to fortune. i've only managed to get—pit- fortune. i've only managed to get—mt, tnt- fortune. i've only managed to get—mt, but a- fortune. i've only managed toi get—pit, but i know get out of that pit, but i know ttere-e— get out of that pit, but i know tnene-e a— get out of that pit, but i know tnene-e a tot— get out of that pit, but i know there's a lot of— get out of that pit, but i know there's a lot of single mothers etmggttng— struggling with that and at the momem— struggling with that and at the moment-parents- struggling with that and at the moment parents can moment working parents can get some-childcare— moment working parents can get some .childcare for- moment working parents can get some childcare for very some free childcare for very young— some free childcare for very young children. _ some free childcare for very young children. but it's not as comprehensive— young children. but it's not as comprehensive schooling. comprehensive as schooling. according— comprehensive as schooling. aeeonttneto— comprehensive as schooling. according to the— comprehensive as schooling. according to the family childcare— according to the family childcare trust , it costs more childcare trust, it costs more men— childcare trust, it costs more than £14,000 _ childcare trust, it costs more than £14,000 a— childcare trust, it costs more than £14,000 a year to keep entttnen— than £14,000 a year to keep children under— than £14,000 a year to keep children under the age of two. in children under the age of two. tn nomen— children under the age of two. tn nwnew ,— children under the age of two. in nursery , and— children under the age of two. in nursery , and that's as the in nursery, and that's as the

aveage— in nursery, and that's as the aveaeg eost— in nursery, and that's as the average cost of— in nursery, and that's as the average cost of raising a child nae— average cost of raising a child nae nen— average cost of raising a child nae to— average cost of raising a child has risen to around about £200,000.— has risen to around about £200,000. so _ has risen to around about £200,000. so for the great anten— £200,000. so for the great british debate _ £200,000. so for the great british debate this out, i'm aettng— british debate this out, i'm asking should— british debate this out, i'm asking should child care costs ont— asking should child care costs owt ot— asking should child care costs come out of our— asking should child care costs come out of our taxes ? let's see come out of our taxes? let's see wnat— come out of our taxes? let's see wnat mv— come out of our taxes? let's see wnat mv gamet— come out of our taxes? let's see what my panel make of that. i'm iotnet— what my panel make of that. i'm iotnet tw— what my panel make of that. i'm joined by tne— what my panel make of that. i'm joined by the lovely lizzie cwntv— joined by the lovely lizzie cwntv-ateo- joined by the lovely lizzie cundy also peter edwards . cundy and also peter edwards. wot— cundy and also peter edwards. wot tovetv.— cundy and also peter edwards. wot tovetv. wo— cundy and also peter edwards. not lovely. no, he's not lovely . wo. — not lovely. no, he's not lovely . to. peter,— not lovely. no, he's not lovely . no. peter, i'm— not lovely. no, he's not lovely . no. peter, i'm going to start wttn— . no. peter, i'm going to start wttn vow— . no. peter, i'm going to start wttn vow .— . no. peter, i'm going to start wttn vow . vow— . no. peter, i'm going to start with you . you are— . no. peter, i'm going to start with you . you are you a single with you. you are you a single tate— with you. you are you a single tote wave— with you. you are you a single tote wave vow— with you. you are you a single dad? have you got children ? dad? have you got children? wnat-e— dad? have you got children? wnat-e-vow- dad? have you got children? what's your predicament? dad? have you got children? whayou your predicament? dad? have you got children? whayou say your predicament? dad? have you got children? whayou say ? our predicament? dad? have you got children? whayou say ? / edicament? dad? have you got children? whayou say ? / iicament? dad? have you got children? whayou say ? “415m?" mti“ .tnt? dad? have you got children? whayou say ? “415m?" mi“ . gmi can you say? yeah, i won't go into details, but i'm a parent. can you say? yeah, i won't go intoa etails, but i'm a parent. can you say? yeah, i won't go intoa parent.iut i'm a parent. can you say? yeah, i won't go intoa parent. andm a parent. can you say? yeah, i won't go intoa parent. and my parent. can you say? yeah, i won't go intoa parent. and my sonant. can you say? yeah, i won't go intoa parent. and my son six. so i'm a parent. and my son six. so obviously he's kind of past the stage of child care. but one can easily pay over £2,000. where i live in east london for full time childcare and i have friends who are both working and have two children, so they're paying have two children, so they're paying if they want to carry on working full time, they can pay for two 5000 a month, which is extraordinary. it's unbelievable . ane— extraordinary. it's unbelievable . ave vow— extraordinary. it's unbelievable . ave won a— extraordinary. it's unbelievable . are you a single— extraordinary. it's unbelievable . are you a single dad- : it's unbelievable . are you a single dad or are you— . are you a single dad or are won wett— . are you a single dad or are won wett ,— . are you a single dad or are won wett , tm— . are you a single dad or are you well, i'm not- . are you a single dad or are you well, i'm not going to talk about— you well, i'm not going to talk about my— you well, i'm not going to talk about my family— you well, i'm not going to talk about my family situation . no, i about my family situation. no, i met— about my family situation. no, i itet-teeeme- about my family situation. no, i just-because as- about my family situation. no, i just because as i'm just wondered because as i'm a etngte— just wondered because as i'm a etngte mm— just wondered because as i'm a etngte so— just wondered because as i'm a single mum, so i'm just wontenng— single mum, so i'm just wondering if— single mum, so i'm just wondering if that makes or

wnetner— wondering if that makes or. whether—will whether that predicament will make— whether that predicament will mate—ton- whether that predicament will mate—tonvowi make things different for you, tnat-e— make things different for you, mate-wett— make things different for you, that's-well, it's- make things different for you, that's-well, it's too- make things different for you, that's �*tmi; . i“ g i“ that's all. well, it's too high relative incomes. and i'm relative to incomes. and i'm sure that's the case in other parts country parts of the country where childcare but in childcare might be less. but in relative salaries are relative terms, salaries are less as well. you know, less as well. i think you know, let's zoom out from here. new to the political both main parties have wrestled with kind of what are the right policies on childcare and paying for it. and actually, i think jeremy hunt at times has said things are a bit more progressive, which is essentially labour view that essentially the labour view that childcare is part of infrastructure. and we talk about infrastructure, we don't just talk about roads and cars and kind of the tough and that kind of the tough sounding stuff, but childcare because supports going because it supports people going to work and people to to work and people going to work, generates tax to work, of course generates tax to pay work, of course generates tax to pay stuff. lizzie, work, of course generates tax to pay stuff . lizzie, what do pay for stuff. lizzie, what do you— pay for stuff. lizzie, what do vow tntnte— pay for stuff. lizzie, what do you think? well,— lizzie, what do you think? well, look, the government— you think? well, look, the government has spent 4 billion a vent— government has spent 4 billion a wear ton— government has spent 4 billion a wear to tne— government has spent 4 billion a year for the last— government has spent 4 billion a year for the last five years netntng— year for the last five years helping families with the cost of childcare. _ helping families with the cost of childcare. but— helping families with the cost of childcare. . of childcare. but it frankly isn't enough. and as you said, nana birth rate is plummeted , nana birth rate is plummeted, saying it. this is a real worry. and we've really got to

encourage women to get back into the workplace . you know, it's the workplace. you know, it's good for the economy . it's good good for the economy. it's good for them. it's you know, it gives you a focus as well as being a mother. and it's really, really very, very difficult to have be able to afford to have a child . and like you said in your child. and like you said in your wonderful column, nana, you know, you say , oh, wow, huge, know, you say, oh, wow, huge, congratulations on being pregnant. now it's like, wow , pregnant. now it's like, wow, wow. you've got a big financial worry that is, you know, bringing a child into this world. it is so expensive. it really is. i mean, like my evetnenee— ”»imifit i mean, like my experience, obviously i'm a etngte— experience, obviously i'm a etngte mm— experience, obviously i'm a etngte .— experience, obviously i'm a single mum. i my first child i not— single mum. i my first child i not wnen— single mum. i my first child i not wnen .— single mum. i my first child i had when i was— single mum. i my first child i had when i was 37, the next one i had when i was 37, the next one . nat— had when i was 37, the next one . not wnen— had when i was 37, the next one . not wnen .— had when i was 37, the next one i had when i was— had when i was 37, the next one i had when i was 46. and luckily , vou— i had when i was 46. and luckily , vow .— i had when i was 46. and luckily , you see, i waited.— i had when i was 46. and luckily , you see, i waited. i— i had when i was 46. and luckily , you see, i waited. i waited a ttt— , you see, i waited. i waited a ttt wntt— , you see, i waited. i waited a ttt wnttt .— , you see, i waited. i waited a bit until i was— , you see, i waited. i waited a bit until i was a— , you see, i waited. i waited a bit until i was a bit older. so tnat— bit until i was a bit older. so tnat nat— bit until i was a bit older. so tnat not a— bit until i was a bit older. so that had a little— bit until i was a bit older. so that had a little bit of money tee— that had a little bit of money tee .— that had a little bit of money because i thought to myself, i can see how it— because i thought to myself, i can see how it goes when you're very— can see how it goes when you're very-ant— can see how it goes when you're vew-ant tte— can see how it goes when you're vew-ant to very- very young and it's very tttttewtt— difficult to do that. and you know,— difficult to do that. and you know, even me,— difficult to do that. and you know, even me, who had some money— know, even me, who had some monev ant— know, even me, who had some money and worked really hard and tntnge— money and worked really hard and tntnge-tt— money and worked really hard and things,-it extremely- things, i found it extremely tttttewtt— things, i found it extremely difficult-terms- things, i found it extremely difficult terms finances difficult in terms of finances as difficult in terms of finances aeletngte— difficult in terms of finances as single parent, what you as a single parent, what you wnat— as a single parent, what you wnat vow— as a single parent, what you what you could— as a single parent, what you what you could get because there

are what you could get because there etemente— what you could get because there are elements where— what you could get because there are elements where i was above a oentatn— are elements where i was above a certain threshold— are elements where i was above a certain threshold ,— are elements where i was above a certain threshold , but that certain threshold, but that tttn-t— certain threshold, but that didn't make— certain threshold, but that didn't make but meant didn't make but that it meant i wowttn-t— didn't make but that it meant i wouldn't-benefit.- didn't make but that it meant i wouldn't benefit. but wouldn't get that benefit. but i got-tme— wouldn't get that benefit. but i got-tnte ant— wouldn't get that benefit. but i got-this andlbit- wouldn't get that benefit. but i got-this andlbit it. got a bit of this and a bit it woe—tt- got a bit of this and a bit it was—it really. got a bit of this and a bit it- was_|t really well, was a nightmare. it really well, tnat-e— was a nightmare. it really well, tnat-e-tev— was a nightmare. it really well, that's-key point- was a nightmare. it really well, that's key point and that's a really key point and i tonne— that's a really key point and i tonne-ant— that's a really key point and i found and without getting found that and without getting into found that and without getting tnto—twt- found that and without getting tnto—twt tt-el into all the minutia, but it's wnat— into all the minutia, but it's wnat-extents— into all the minutia, but it's what-experts-a- into all the minutia, but it's what experts a cliff what tax experts call a cliff etge —eam- what tax experts call a cliff- edge _earn nothing , edge where if you earn nothing, you edge where if you earn nothing, vow get— edge where if you earn nothing, vow get a— edge where if you earn nothing, you get a modest— edge where if you earn nothing, you get a modest level of government— you get a modest level of government support for childcare. _ government support for childcare. if- government support for childcare. �*" government support for- childcare. if you earn a certain amount, you get a slug that was introduced, i think by david cameron, a slug of money, depending whether there's1 cameron, a slug of money, depending whether there's 1 or 2 parents in work. depending whether there's 1 or 2 parents in work . and but then it parents in work. and but then it tapers off when you earn above 100 mean, people that 100 grand. i mean, people that earn they're in earn above 100 grand, they're in a different territory. so they wouldn't be top of my list of people worry about. but all people to worry about. but all of these incentives and i think many of us, between us, we're probably lived through the various government schemes . and various government schemes. and despite all of them, unless you are earning 100 k, which most, most, most , are earning 100 k, which most, most, most, most people don't, it's still very , very difficult it's still very, very difficult to pay for two children, especially if they're, say , two especially if they're, say, two and 4 or 4 and six, and they're

not able to look after themselves. and pay a mortgage. yeah, i mean, most young people eon-t— yeah, i mean, most young people ean-t get— yeah, i mean, most young people can't even get onto— yeah, i mean, most young people can't even get onto the housing tattet— can't even get onto the housing tatten, ean— can't even get onto the housing ladder, can they?— can't even get onto the housing ladder, can they? let alone tntnt— ladder, can they? let alone think-having- ladder, can they? let alone think-having a- ladder, can they? let alone think having a family think about having a family amte. — think about having a family amte. _ton- think about having a family arnie._son is- think about having a familyi arnie._son is now think about having a family- arnie._son is now 27 arnie. i know my son is now 27 ant— arnie. i know my son is now 27 ant ne— arnie. i know my son is now 27 and he thankfully— arnie. i know my son is now 27 and he thankfully just got on the and he thankfully just got on tne nowetng— and he thankfully just got on the housing market. but to think of the housing market. but to think ot a— the housing market. but to think ot a tamttv— the housing market. but to think ot a tamttv on— the housing market. but to think of a family on top— the housing market. but to think of a family on top of that, wean— of a family on top of that, wean ant— of a family on top of that, yeah, and that's the problem we nave. — yeah, and that's the problem we nave. wett— yeah, and that's the problem we have. well, they— yeah, and that's the problem we have. well, they come out as wett— have. well, they come out as wet ot— have. well, they come out as well of university— have. well, they come out as well of university with up to £70,000 — well of university with up to £70,000 tt— well of university with up to £70,000 if not— well of university with up to £70,000 if not more of student tett— £70,000 if not more of student tett ,— £70,000 if not more of student tett , wnen— £70,000 if not more of student debt , which _oh, i debt, which people say, oh, tnat-e— debt, which people say, oh, that's-debt- debt, which people say, oh, that's-debt and. that's not a big debt and evewtntng. — that's not a big debt and everything. . . everything. but it is, it is a headache and a burden you headache and a burden that you will even you know will carry, even though you know that to little that you're going to pay little bits chipping bits of it off and it's chipping away. still still away. it's still it's still a psychological thing. there that you're and that doesn't you're in debt and that doesn't help. so i think young people are thinking with that in their mind . and then that mind. and then the fact that it's difficult on the it's difficult to get on the property got to it's difficult to get on the pr0| a rty got to it's difficult to get on the pr0|a massive got to it's difficult to get on the pr0|a massive deposit got to it's difficult to get on the pr0|a massive deposit gtwell. it's difficult to get on the pryou massive deposit gtwell. it's difficult to get on the pryou wantve deposit gtwell. it's difficult to get on the pryou want at deposit gtwell. it's difficult to get on the pryou want a house.it gtwell. it's difficult to get on the pryou want a house.it gtthen if you want a house. and then even if you do manage that, then the of childcare the huge cost of childcare is extortionate. that extortionate. do you think that perhaps system perhaps there should be a system that's the school that's more like the school system where it's kind of within that's more like the school systtaxes here it's kind of within that's more like the school systtaxes here you kind of within that's more like the school systtaxes here you kindjust vithin the taxes and you can just chip in it in if you maybe you could. it could be that you pay a certain extra premium so that you

extra premium so that when you have something have kids or something like that, there should that, do you think there should be there? well, be something there? well, if you mean-tnmaw— be something there? well, if you mean-primary school- be something there? well, if you meanlsoiprimary school- be something there? well, if you meanlso essentiallychool- be something there? well, if you meanlso essentially be ol- system. so essentially be wmvenat— system. so essentially be universal provision that's universal state provision that's tree— universal state provision that's tree-tom— universal state provision that's tee-totnt ot— universal state provision that's free-point of use,- universal state provision that's free point of use, paid free at the point of use, paid for free at the point of use, paid to out— free at the point of use, paid to out ot— free at the point of use, paid for out of taxation ? for out of general taxation? wett— for out of general taxation? wett wet— for out of general taxation? well, we'd all— for out of general taxation? well, we'd all love that. and t-m — well, we'd all love that. and t-m .tatow— well, we'd all love that. and i'm .labour would - well, we'd all love that. and i'm labour would love to i'm sure labour would love to tnomtee— i'm sure labour would love to tnomtee-twt— i'm sure labour would love to promise-butldon't- i'm sure labour would love to promise but don't think promise that, but i don't think any— promise that, but i don't think any party— promise that, but i don't think any party-worked- promise that, but i don't think any party worked out yet how any party has worked out yet how one-ottom— any party has worked out yet how one-afford that. _ any party has worked out yet how one afford that. remember one can afford that. remember the one can afford that. remember me ttggeet— one can afford that. remember the biggest childcare funding enange— the biggest childcare funding enange ot— the biggest childcare funding enange ot tne— the biggest childcare funding change of the last decade was wnen— change of the last decade was wnen tavtt— change of the last decade was when david cameron introduced the when david cameron introduced tne tt— when david cameron introduced tne ts mee— when david cameron introduced the 15 free hours— when david cameron introduced the 15 free hours a— when david cameron introduced the 15 free hours a week, 33 towe— the 15 free hours a week, 33 tonne a— the 15 free hours a week, 33 hours a week. _ the 15 free hours a week, 33 hours a week. if— the 15 free hours a week, 33 hours a week. if both parents tn— hours a week. if both parents tn wont.— hours a week. if both parents are in work. but— hours a week. if both parents are in work. but of course, if vone— are in work. but of course, if von-ne wonttng— are in work. but of course, if you're working full time, you ton-t— you're working full time, you ton-t wont— you're working full time, you don't work 33,— you're working full time, you don't work 33, three zero hours a weet. — don't work 33, three zero hours a weet. won— don't work 33, three zero hours a week. you work— don't work 33, three zero hours a week. you work 35, 37, 40, and i'd a week. you work 35, 37, 40, and to entttetee— a week. you work 35, 37, 40, and i'd criticise david— a week. you work 35, 37, 40, and i'd criticise david cameron with an own— i'd criticise david cameron with an awtnt tot— i'd criticise david cameron with an awful lot of— i'd criticise david cameron with an awful lot of things , an awful lot of things, tnetnttng— an awful lot of things, including that. but at least it was something— including that. but at least it was something to incentivise wont— was something to incentivise wont ton— was something to incentivise work for parents. . : work for parents. it needs to be more realistic . we should- work for parents. . : i“tiiti 1315.1 we should have more realistic. we should have tnttv— more realistic. we should have tnttv tnntet— more realistic. we should have fully funded think— more realistic. we should have fully funded think it— “tiiti 1.33.5th we should have fully funded think it should “tiiti ”ce. ti.ti we should have fully funded think it should be pari— fully funded think it should be nant ot— fully funded think it should be nant ot now— fully funded think it should be nant ot now to— fully funded think it should be part of how do you pay for it? watt.— part of how do you pay for it? wett. wett— part of how do you pay for it? well, we'll work— part of how do you pay for it? well, we'll work that- part of how do you pay for it? well, we'll work that out- part of how do you pay for it? well, we'll work that out later. i they managed 37. i mean, they managed to find 37. if labour says that, if he teen-t— if labour says that, if he hasn't managed that later. hasn't managed that out later. wett— hasn't managed that out later. watt-managed- hasn't managed that out later. well,_managed.find| hasn't managed that out later. webillion-managedlfindj hasn't managed that out later. we billion for. managed .find| hasn't managed that out later.

we billion for track and trace,nd 37 billion for track and trace, which no can where the which no one can trace where the money but this money went. exactly. but this shows you and money went. exactly. but this showviews. you and money went. exactly. but this showviews. let's you and money went. exactly. but this showviews. let's welcome| and money went. exactly. but this showviews. let's welcome some your views. let's welcome some of our great british voices. their on the of our great british voices. their and on the of our great british voices. their and us on the of our great british voices. their and us they he of our great british voices. their and us they think show and tell us what they think about they're about the topic they're discussing i've got four discussing today. i've got four know three you now. wow. know three of you now. wow. okay. ashley. know three of you now. wow. okay. do ashley. know three of you now. wow. okay. do you ashley. know three of you now. wow. okay. do you think ashley. know three of you now. wow. okay. do you think childcare should do you think childcare should just literally come out should do you think childcare sh generalt literally come out should do you think childcare sh general taxationt come out should do you think childcare sh general taxation ? good ut of general taxation? good afternoon, nana.- of general taxation? good afternoon, nana. yes,- g ti“7 good afternoon, nana. yes, i do . i afternoon, nana. yes, i do. i agnee— afternoon, nana. yes, i do. i agnee wttn— afternoon, nana. yes, i do. i agree with your— afternoon, nana. yes, i do. i agree with your panel and also wnat— agree with your panel and also wnat won— agree with your panel and also wnat won one— agree with your panel and also what you are saying. . what you are saying. it is neattv— what you are saying. it is neattv eoettv— what you are saying. it is really costly to - what you are saying. it is really costly to have children in childcare. i had three children, three under five at one stage and that was like almost my whole salary. so it was actually better for me, you know , not to be working, but know, not to be working, but people can't afford that these days and that's obviously deterring them from actually having kids . and i think what having kids. and i think what they're saying in the government that it's all about me, you know. danny kruger i think that's incorrect . it i think that's incorrect. it i think it's that's incorrect. it i think in moe— that's incorrect. it i think it's more because- ii it i think it's more because it's so eoettw— it's more because it's so costlyv tte— it's more because it's so costly, it's so— it's more because it's so costly, it's so expensive . costly, it's so expensive. tttnanta— costly, it's so expensive. miranda richardson from northamptonshire , not the northamptonshire, not the miranda richardson is miranda richardson from northamptonshire. miranda what do think? good afternoon ,

do you think? good afternoon, anna. — do you think? good afternoon, anna. t— do you think? good afternoon, anna. t to— do you think? good afternoon, anna. i do think it should be covered as well. think it's covered as well. i think it's that that rock that that horrible rock and a hard place because we've losing some brilliant minds and some brilliant people out of their job roles who have families start families choose to have families aren't making that high end level money and then can't go back into those roles because they can't afford the childcare and then we're losing that wealth of knowledge in the jobs they're doing because they can't afford to come back . so it's a afford to come back. so it's a massive, massive issue that we lose such wealth of experience. we're down on on numbers in in production of children . but production of children. but reproduction obviously a production line. and because we can't do it, i absolutely think we need like you say, we need to get that money and we'll find it from somewhere. brian dugan there you are edinburgh, there you are in edinburgh, you're this time you're in edinburgh this time i'm solihull , nana why do i'm in solihull, nana why do they keep changing it? sorry. all right, brian,-do- they keep changing it? sorry. all right, brian,-do youi all right, brian, what do you tntnt— all right, brian, what do you mm a— all right, brian, what do you think .7 well,— all right, brian, what do you think .7 well, |— all right, brian, what do you think ? well, i mean , i agree. all right, brian, what do you think ? well, i mean , i migiiti think? well, i mean, i agree. i von tave— think? well, i mean, i agree. i mean, you have unanimity on the panel here. i agree with miranda

and panel here. i agree with miranda ant cneenev— panel here. i agree with miranda and chesney and— panel here. i agree with miranda and chesney and what- it“tii i agree with miranda and chesney and what you were eavtng— and chesney and what you were eavtng tn— and chesney and what you were eavtng tn tne— and chesney and what you were saying in the studio. um i think we to— saying in the studio. um i think we to meet— saying in the studio. um i think we to meet to— saying in the studio. um i think we do need to look at the system ant— we do need to look at the system ant tnene-e— we do need to look at the system ant tnene-e a— we do need to look at the system and there's a problem and we meet— and there's a problem and we meet to— and there's a problem and we meet to ttnt— and there's a problem and we need to find a— and there's a problem and we need to find a solution to make it need to find a solution to make tt wont— need to find a solution to make tt wont . — need to find a solution to make tt wont. tm— need to find a solution to make it work . um, because- need to find a solution to make it work . i i“ . it work. um, because we can't be in a situation where, you know, you talked about your own situation. ann um, and, and mate— situation. ann um, and, and mate tnat-e— situation. ann um, and, and that's, that's just— ann um, and, and that's, that's just wrong . that's, that's just wrong. that etonttn-t— that's, that's just wrong. that etonttn-t te— that's, that's just wrong. that shouldn't be the— that's, that's just wrong. that shouldn't be the case. you know , you're earning good money because you're working in a, in a good job and you should be able to provide for your children as opposed to having that kind of nagging fear at the end it all. that i'm not end of it all. and that i'm not really able to really going to be able to afford i've got to afford things or i've got to pick out here and pick out there. i think i would go there. so i think i would go with terms with something in terms of perhaps , um, and, and perhaps a premium, um, and, and i think we do need to find some solution to this. we do. thank you very much, brian szczesny and miranda. lovely to talk and also miranda. lovely to talk to our great to you. there's our great british as well. let's british voices as well. let's move to story that move on to another story that caught minister caught my eye. prime minister rishi that rishi sunak has claimed that britain no longerjudges people rishi sunak has claimed that bri how no longer judges people rishi sunak has claimed that bri how no lon money ges people rishi sunak has claimed that

bri how no lon money they eople rishi sunak has claimed that bri how no lon money they have rishi sunak has claimed that bri howno lon money they have in on how much money they have in the , sunak i talked the bank, sunak said. i talked a lot about that last summer. i think that we've moved beyond judging by what's in judging people by what's in their wishes . i their bank account. he wishes. i think interested in think they're interested in whether i'm to deliver for whether i'm going to deliver for their families . so do agree, their families. so do you agree, lizzie ? do you agree? i know lizzie? do you agree? i know people say lizzie? do you agree? i know neotte eav ne-e— lizzie? do you agree? i know people say he's you- »atti7' tti migiiti7’ i know people say he's you know, anti? ti igtii7 i know people say he's you know, how ne— people say he's you know, how ne know— people say he's you know, how can he know what— people say he's you know, how can he know what we're all going tnnongn— can he know what we're all going tnnongn tnte— can he know what we're all going through this high— can he know what we're all going through this high cost of ttvtng— through this high cost of living-being- through this high cost of living, being a billionaire, living, him being a billionaire, but living, him being a billionaire, tnt a— living, him being a billionaire, tnt a neneone— living, him being a billionaire, but a person's wealth hasn't anvtntng— but a person's wealth hasn't anvtntng to— but a person's wealth hasn't anvtntng to to— but a person's wealth hasn't anything to do with their voneet — anything to do with their values. and— anything to do with their values. and what they can do and now— values. and what they can do and now tnew— values. and what they can do and now tnev on— values. and what they can do and how they can help _ values. and what they can do and how they can help others . and i how they can help others. and i ont t— how they can help others. and i mean, and i know— how they can help others. and i mean, and i know starmer has tone— mean, and i know starmer has tone toote— mean, and i know starmer has done loads of— mean, and i know starmer has done loads of hits— mean, and i know starmer has done loads of hits on rishi, but you— done loads of hits on rishi, but von know— done loads of hits on rishi, but von tnow .— done loads of hits on rishi, but von tnow . nee— done loads of hits on rishi, but you know , he's got own personal you know, he's got own personal weottn— you know, he's got own personal weottn ot— you know, he's got own personal weottn ot 7.7— you know, he's got own personal wealth of 7.7 million and he earns a year, i— wealth of 7.7 million and he earns a year, i think 160 k and i earns a year, i think 160 k and t mean— earns a year, i think 160 k and t tnat-e.— earns a year, i think 160 k and i mean that's, you— earns a year, i think 160 k and i mean that's, you know, he's nonttv— i mean that's, you know, he's nonttv on— i mean that's, you know, he's nonttv on tne— i mean that's, you know, he's hardly on the breadline is he. ntzzo. — hardly on the breadline is he. ntzzo. wett— hardly on the breadline is he. pizza. well i— hardly on the breadline is he. pizza. well i would- hardly on the breadline is he. pizza. : 2 ti“ pizza. well i would question that figure about keir starmer. i think terms of our values, i think in terms of our values, we're all a product of where we come from, whether that's school , job we hold , the , a family, the job we hold, the neighbourhood live on. money, neighbourhood we live on. money, though no . and my though generally, no. and my advice to the labour party is that attacks on rishi sunak for

being wealthy are doomed to failure at and the public won't like it either because the pubuc like it either because the public likes aspiration. when i worked for the labour party briefly in ed miliband era , briefly in the ed miliband era, a lot of attacks on david cameron being wealth he a lot of attacks on david cam the being wealth he a lot of attacks on david cam the next)eing wealth he a lot of attacks on david cam the next election alth he a lot of attacks on david cam the next election with he a lot of attacks on david cam the next election with a he won the next election with a larger vote zahawi labour got stopped these cheap shots. well, yeah. and actually to be momet.— well, yeah. and actually to be honest, although— well, yeah. and actually to be honest, although you know , the honest, although you know, the onw— honest, although you know, the ontv tttng— honest, although you know, the ontv tntng tnat— honest, although you know, the only thing that i— honest, although you know, the only thing that i would say with negont— only thing that i would say with negont to— only thing that i would say with negont to ott— only thing that i would say with regard to all that— only thing that i would say with regard to all that wealth is tnat— regard to all that wealth is tnot tt— regard to all that wealth is that if you're _ regard to all that wealth is that if you're going like that if you're going to like a mate— that if you're going to like a place-there's- place where there's lots of wonttng — place where there's lots of- wonttng—ton-t place where there's lots of- worki much—don't place where there's lots of workimuch money, don't don't place where there's lots of workimuch money, don't diint have much money, don't go in moto— have much money, don't go in nnoto eoeen— have much money, don't go in prada shoes, that's all i would have much money, don't go in prada fit...es, that's all i would have much money, don't go in prada i . all i would have much money, don't go in prada i all i would have much money, don't go in prada i c. t.tiould have much money, don't go in prada i t:.. . say. but actually i quite like the fact that he is wealthy because be sort of because then he won't be sort of there's kind of there's none of that kind of worried thing there's none of that kind of worrdoing thing there's none of that kind of worrdoing deals thing there's none of that kind of worrdoing deals with thing there's none of that kind of worrdoing deals with peopleing there's none of that kind of worrdoing deals with people with and doing deals with people with all money suits all those all that money suits still don't fit, though, do they? there's you they? there's trousers. well you see that's thing see that's that's another thing . it's for our . right now it's time for our quick the show quick quiz. as part of the show where my panel on some of where i test my panel on some of the other topics are in the the other topics that are in the headunes the other topics that are in the headlines now. i'm joined the other topics that are in the heobroadcast now. i'm joined the other topics that are in the heobroadcast from w. i'm joined the other topics that are in the heobroadcast from columnisted by broadcast from columnist lizzie cundy. lizzie, pressure buzzer of the buzzer and former editor of the labourlist peter edwards. your buzzer, peter. well, labourlist peter edwards. your buzzl r, peter. well, labourlist peter edwards. your buzzl r, a peter. well, labourlist peter edwards. your buzzl r, a blue eter. well, labourlist peter edwards. your buzzl r, a blue buzzernell, labourlist peter edwards. your buzzl r, a blue buzzer because i've i got a blue buzzer because vone— i've i got a blue buzzer because vone o— i've i got a blue buzzer because von-ne a tow. — i've i got a blue buzzer because von-ne a to _t— i've i got a blue buzzer because you're a boy. _it red- i've i got a blue buzzer because you're a boy. . ”titi you're a boy. press it red lefty it's stereotype type.

it's a gender stereotype type. right let's brilliant . question right let's brilliant. question one please play along at home. who topped the sunday times rich list? it a sirjames dyson list? was it a sir james dyson and family b , david and simon and family b, david and simon reuben. you've got to let me finish. and family. we'll see. gopi his family. finish. and family. we'll see. gopi his family . oh, gopi hinduja and his family. oh, press the buzzer if you want to go . lizzie cundy i'm actually go. lizzie cundy i'm actually going for b , is it b you think going for b, is it b you think it's david and simon reuben and family? what do you think? same c hindujas hindujas. let's see if you're right. is the dup hindujas and family. you're hindujas and his family. you're totally gopi hinduja, hindujas and his family. you're totarichest gopi hinduja, hindujas and his family. you're totarichest familytopi hinduja, hindujas and his family. you're tota richest family , pi hinduja, hindujas and his family. you're tota richest family , richest uja, the richest family, richest people in the uk, they're worth about £35 billion. that's according to the sunday times rich list 2023. the hinduja family who were behind the indian conglomerate hinduja group have topped the list for the second day in a row as their fortune jumped by more than 6 billion. 6 billion. question to former prime minister boris johnson and his wife carrie had announced that they're expecting their child. but how many their third child. but how many children does boris johnson have? wins . have? closest answer wins. lizzie cundy i don't actually tntnt— lizzie cundy i don't actually tntnt tone— lizzie cundy i don't actually think boris knows that . probably

think boris knows that. probably etgnt. — think boris knows that. probably etgnt. tonn— think boris knows that. probably eight. your turn.— think boris knows that. probably eight. your turn. your- think boris knows that. probably eight. /ti.. /»i.. eight. your turn. your your buzzer. ithink eight. your turn. your your buzzer. i think we're eight. /ti.. . /»i.. i i i think we're being buzzer. i think we're being a bit buzzer. i think we're being a ttt mean— buzzer. i think we're being a ttt .— buzzer. i think we're being a bit mean . buzzer.- buzzer. i think we're being a bit mean . buzzer. i- i think we're being a bit mean . buzzer. i don't know bit mean. buzzer. i don't know tne— bit mean. buzzer. i don't know tne ome— bit mean. buzzer. i don't know the answer. we're— bit mean. buzzer. i don't know the answer. we're being a bit to— the answer. we're being a bit mean to boris— the answer. we're being a bit mean to boris and all his other entttnen. — mean to boris and all his other children. yeah,— mean to boris and all his other children. yeah, it— mean to boris and all his other children. “415m?" . children. yeah, it says you seven apparently it's oh seven very close. seven. yes you win because he didn't say anything. he's got children his he's got four children with his ex, marina , two carrie and ex, marina, two with carrie and one from extramarital affair. one from an extramarital affair. and mcintyre all right, let's see. question three andy rourke, who died aged 59, was the bassist in which 1980s rock band was it? a the cure? b, the smiths or c, the clash ? peter smiths or c, the clash? peter um, i think smiths or c, the clash? peter um, i think it's— smiths or c, the clash? peter um, i think it's a— 7 peter um, i think it's a smiths. andy ttonnte— um, i think it's a smiths. andy ttonnte tt— um, i think it's a smiths. andy ttonnte tt te. — um, i think it's a smiths. andy rourke it is. in— um, i think it's a smiths. andy rourke it is. i“ ”ii um, i think it's a smiths. andy rourke it is. ’“ �*itti.. rourke it is. in fact, the smiths. you're absolutely right. he died of pancreatic cancer, a terrible cancer . he died of pancreatic cancer, a terrible cancer. that. question four true or false? david beckham gave the kim king home, produced honey at the british fashion week this week. true or false, lizzie? true . fashion week this week. true or false, lizzie? true. let's fashion week this week. true or false, lizzie? true . let's see false, lizzie? true. let's see if you're right. it is true. no, it's true. that's true. and finally , last question. a driver finally, last question. a driver in colorado was pulled over for speeding, but what unusual thing

did he to avoid arrest? was did he do to avoid arrest? was it he to put his dog it, a, he tried to put his dog in b, in the driver's seat. b, he pretended was blind or c, he pretended he was blind or c, he tried to hide in his boot. well, i don't know the answer tried to hide in his boot. - well, i don't know the answer , well, i don't know the answer, tnt— well, i don't know the answer, tnt t— well, i don't know the answer, tnt t wontt— well, i don't know the answer, but i would love— well, i don't know the answer, but i would love that. put his cart— but i would love that. put his tne— but i would love that. put his tne tog.— but i would love that. put his car, the dog, in— but i would love that. put his car, the dog, in front . but i would love that. put his car, the dog, in front. is but i would love that. put his car, the dog, in front . is that car, the dog, in front. is that ntgnt— car, the dog, in front. is that ntgnt e— car, the dog, in front. is that ntgnt e t— car, the dog, in front. is that right .7 i think— car, the dog, in front. is that right ? 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aeeonttng— policies putting you off? according to— policies putting you off? according to our twitter poll, ette— according to our twitter poll, ette ot— according to our twitter poll, ette ot von — according to our twitter poll, 87% of you said— according to our twitter poll, 87% of you said yes. only 13% of you— 87% of you said yes. only 13% of von eott— 87% of you said yes. only 13% of von eott no— 87% of you said yes. only 13% of von eott no .— 87% of you said yes. only 13% of von eott no . so— 87% of you said yes. only 13% of you said no . so what i've got to you said no. so what i've got to say.— you said no. so what i've got to eat a— you said no. so what i've got to eat a nnge— you said no. so what i've got to say, a huge thank— you said no. so what i've got to say, a huge thank you to my totntone— say, a huge thank you to my fabulous panel,— say, a huge thank you to my fabulous panel, lizzie cundy , fabulous panel, lizzie cundy, tnont— fabulous panel, lizzie cundy, tnont won— fabulous panel, lizzie cundy, tnont von venv— fabulous panel, lizzie cundy, thank you very much. thank you, wanna. — thank you very much. thank you, wanna. ant— thank you very much. thank you, nana. and also— thank you very much. thank you, nana. and also peter edwards. tnont— nana. and also peter edwards. tnont won— nana. and also peter edwards. tnont von venv— nana. and also peter edwards. thank you very peter, for thank you very much, peter, for joining— thank you very much, peter, for iotntng—eeel joining us today. lovely to see you— joining us today. lovely to see won-oe— joining us today. lovely to see won-oe-o- joining us today. lovely to see won-oe-o nnge- joining us today. lovely to see. you-as-a huge thank you. and as ever, a huge thank you— you. and as ever, a huge thank von to— you. and as ever, a huge thank von to-ot— you. and as ever, a huge thank von to-ot-ton- you. and as ever, a huge thank you to .at-for your. you to you at home for your company— you to you at home for your company .— you to you at home for your company . well,— you to you at home for your company . well, stay tuned. i'll company. well, stay tuned. i'll be company. well, stay tuned. i'll te-tomonnow— company. well, stay tuned. i'll be-tomorrow at- company. well, stay tuned. i'll be-tomorrow at 3- company. well, stay tuned. i'll be tomorrow at 3 with be back tomorrow at 3 pm. with tonmen— be back tomorrow at 3 pm. with tonne tett— be back tomorrow at 3 pm. with former brexit mep—

be back tomorrow at 3 pm. with former brexit mep martin tontnew— former brexit mep martin daubney, political commentator antw— daubney, political commentator andy williamson.— daubney, political commentator andy williamson. we'll be going neat— andy williamson. we'll be going neotlneot— andy williamson. we'll be going head-head-for_ andy williamson. we'll be going head-head-for-6,- head to head and for 4 to 6, danny— head to head and for 4 to 6, danny netw— head to head and for 4 to 6, danny kelly and— head to head and for 4 to 6, danny kelly and also claire neoneott. — danny kelly and also claire pearsall. i'll— danny kelly and also claire pearsall. i'll see you tomorrow at tnnee. — pearsall. i'll see you tomorrow at three. hello _ pearsall. i'll see you tomorrow at three. hello there. i at three. hello there. welcome to wtnn— at three. hello there. welcome to new on— at three. hello there. welcome to your gb news weather forecast from the met office. i'm craig snell. we're having a look at sunday. of a north sunday. a bit of a north south split of some rain across split risk of some rain across northern ireland and scotland , northern ireland and scotland, but should dry and but elsewhere should be dry and fine. the area of rain is all courtesy of weather front, courtesy of this weather front, which gradually work its which will gradually work its way ireland way towards northern ireland and scotland during the next 24 hours but further south, hours or so. but further south, high pressure remains in charge. so here going to be fine so here it's going to be a fine second to weekend . and second half to the weekend. and so the rest of so going into the rest of saturday, you can see largely clear across a good chunk clear skies across a good chunk of england wales. but of england and wales. but further north see this area further north we see this area of turn quite of rain could turn quite heavy in especially across the in places, especially across the scottish mountains. but no problems really here with temperatures . further south, temperatures. but further south, under could under the clear skies, it could turn quite chilly for the time of especially some of year, especially across some prone the and prone spots of the midlands and wales . but that will set us up wales. but that will set us up for another fine day across many parts of england and wales. a

little of cloud time to little bit of cloud from time to time, especially across eastern coasts, generally coasts, but generally the cloudier will be reserved cloudier skies will be reserved for ireland and for northern ireland and scotland . the will weaken scotland. the rain will weaken as day goes on. so hopefully as the day goes on. so hopefully by the end of afternoon we by the end of the afternoon we could see some sunshine could start to see some sunshine developing parts of developing for northern parts of scotland maybe also northern scotland and maybe also northern ireland. but the best of the sunshine will be further south where highs reaching where we will see highs reaching 21 or 22 degrees in to the evening. the rain will continue to weaken, still will leave behind some cloud across northern ireland and scotland further south. this is where we see the clearest of the sky. so once again, we could turn quite chilly, especially across parts of wales and into the midlands. but overall, as we start monday morning, we start on a fairly quiet note across the country. we still hang on to some cloud across eastern scotland, but it will improve here as the day goes on and generally the best of the sunshine will be further south and you are and as south and west. you are and as we go into tuesday and wednesday , very changes across , a very little changes across the country, largely dry and

sunny for a lot of the uk and in the sunshine it will feel pleasantly warm for the time of year.

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