hello and welcome to gb news sunday. i'm emily carver. for the— sunday. i'm emily carver. for the next— sunday. i'm emily carver. for the next twe— sunday. i'm emily carver. for the next two hours— cat i'm emily carver. for the next two hours i'll be keeping— the next two hours i'll be teeptng yet— the next two hours i'll be keeping you company on tv and teete— keeping you company on tv and tette .— keeping you company on tv and tette . wett— keeping you company on tv and radio . we'll be— keeping you company on tv and radio . we'll be keeping you up radio. we'll be keeping you up to radio. we'll be keeping you up te-ett— radio. we'll be keeping you up to-all-stories- radio. we'll be keeping you up to-all-stories that| to date on all the stories that teeny— to date on all the stories that teeny-yet.- to date on all the stories that teeny-yet. se- to date on all the stories that. really-you. so coming really matter to you. so coming up, really matter to you. so coming ee—ete— really matter to you. so coming “pt—she being- up, this hour, is she being tttven— up, this hour, is she being driven opposition parties driven out.7 opposition parties are driven out.7 opposition parties eetttne— driven out.7 opposition parties are calling for— driven out.7 opposition parties are calling for an— driven out.7 opposition parties are calling for an investigation ettet— are calling for an investigation ettet suette— are calling for an investigation after suella braverman, the home secretary— after suella braverman, the home secretary wee— after suella braverman, the home secretary was accused of evetttne— secretary was accused of evetttne e— secretary was accused of avoiding a speeding fine and petete— avoiding a speeding fine and petete en— avoiding a speeding fine and petete en tet— avoiding a speeding fine and points on her licence by trying to aranee— points on her licence by trying to araneg a— points on her licence by trying to arrange a private 1 to 1 driving— to arrange a private 1 to 1 driving course— to arrange a private 1 to 1 driving course instead . should driving course instead. should ene— driving course instead. should ene te— driving course instead. should she be forced— driving course instead. should she be forced to— driving course instead. should she be forced to explain what nannenee— she be forced to explain what naaaenee er— she be forced to explain what naaaenee or re— she be forced to explain what happens? or is this a bit of a etern— happens? or is this a bit of a stern tn— happens? or is this a bit of a stern tn a— happens? or is this a bit of a storm in a teacup? i'll let you judge.— storm in a teacup? i'll let you judge. tren— storm in a teacup? i'll let you judge. rishi sunak tells ukrainian— judge. rishi sunak tells ukrainian president zelenskyy at the ukrainian president zelenskyy at tne et— ukrainian president zelenskyy at tne er eanntt— ukrainian president zelenskyy at the g7 summit that the uk's entren— the g7 summit that the uk'si support—never support for ukraine will never

. rt— support for ukraine will never waver. it comes— support for ukraine will never waver. it comes as zelenskyy tentee— waver. it comes as zelenskyy denies russian— waver. it comes as zelenskyy denies russian claims of taking eentret— denies russian claims of taking eentret et— denies russian claims of taking control of the— denies russian claims of taking control of the eastern ukrainian city control of the eastern ukrainian arty et— control of the eastern ukrainian city of bakhmut. _ control of the eastern ukrainian city of bakhmut. so after the g7,— city of bakhmut. so after the en nnat— city of bakhmut. so after the g7, what happens next in the name— g7, what happens next in the tattte ter— g7, what happens next in the battle for ukraine? and it's the atttnate— battle for ukraine? and it's the ultimate who's— battle for ukraine? and it's the ultimate who's who . rich list ultimate who's who. rich list tne— ultimate who's who. rich list tne ttnee— ultimate who's who. rich list the times rich— ultimate who's who. rich list the times rich list. but during tne— the times rich list. but during tnte teet— the times rich list. but during tnte test at— the times rich list. but during this cost of living— the times rich list. but during this cost of living crisis , do this cost of living crisis, do we— this cost of living crisis, do we rearw— this cost of living crisis, do we really care?— this cost of living crisis, do we really care? do you really wne— we really care? do you really care who the— we really care? do you really care who the country's richest people— care who the country's richest people ae— care who the country's richest people are? are— care who the country's richest people are? are you concerned tnat— people are? are you concerned tnat earne— people are? are you concerned tnat et— people are? are you concerned that some of them are leaving the that some of them are leaving tne eewntw— that some of them are leaving tne eewntw e— that some of them are leaving the country ? we'll get stuck the country? we'll get stuck tnte— the country? we'll get stuck tnte tnat. — the country? we'll get stuck into that. -first,- the country? we'll get stuck into that. first, get into that. but first, let's get tne— into that. but first, let's get tne tateet— into that. but first, let's get the latest headlines with the latest news headlines with netnanw— the latest news headlines with netnanwl.— the latest news headlines with bethany.. emily,— the latest news headlines with bethany . emily, thank you. bethany lc. emily, thank you. weren— bethany lc. emily, thank you. were wear— bethany lc. emily, thank you. were your ten— bethany lc. emily, thank you. here's your top stories from the gb here's your top stories from the en newreern— here's your top stories from the gb newsroom. at— here's your top stories from the gb newsroom. at 1:01, opposition teatere— gb newsroom. at 1:o1, opposition teatere are— gb newsroom. at 1:01, opposition leaders are calling— gb newsroom. at 1:01, opposition leaders are calling for an investigation— leaders are calling for an investigation after it emerged the investigation after it emerged tne wane— investigation after it emerged the home secretary tried to avert— the home secretary tried to avoid incurring— the home secretary tried to avoid incurring points on her driving— avoid incurring points on her driving licence— avoid incurring points on her driving licence for speeding tast— driving licence for speeding last summer.— driving licence for speeding last summer. the sunday times reporte- — last summer. the sunday times repent. stewa— last summer. the sunday times reports. suella braverman asked aeww— reports. suella braverman asked a civil servant— reports. suella braverman asked a civil servant to— reports. suella braverman asked a civil servant to organise a 1 to a civil servant to organise a1 te r— a civil servant to organise a1 te r driving— a civil servant to organise a 1 to 1 driving awareness course . to 1 driving awareness course. rneteat,— to 1 driving awareness course. rneteaw tne— to 1 driving awareness course. instead, the shadow home secretary— instead, the shadow home secretary ,— instead, the shadow home secretary , yvette cooper, secretary, yvette cooper, teeentea— secretary, yvette cooper, described the - secretary, yvette cooper, described the allegations as sweetne— described the allegations as

shocking, saying ms braverman's role shocking, saying ms braverman's rate te— shocking, saying ms braverman's rate ta ta— shocking, saying ms braverman's role is to uphold— shocking, saying ms braverman's role is to uphold the law and vet— role is to uphold the law and wet ene— role is to uphold the law and yet she abused— role is to uphold the law and yet she abused her position to get agent— yet she abused her position to get aewnt rt.— yet she abused her position to get around it. when asked about the get around it. when asked about we warne— get around it. when asked about the claims, the— get around it. when asked about the claims, the prime minister teewnet— the claims, the prime minister teewnet te— the claims, the prime minister declined to support ms braverman . r— declined to support ms braverman . r ten-t— declined to support ms braverman . r tan-t traw— declined to support ms braverman . i don't know the— declined to support ms braverman . i don't know the full- declined to support ms braverman . i don't know the full details of what has happened, nor have i spoken to the home secretary. i think you can see first hand what i've been doing over the last day or so, but i understand that she's expressed regret for speeding, accepted penalty speeding, accepted the penalty and paid the fine . on the final and paid the fine. on the final day of and paid the fine. on the final day at tne— and paid the fine. on the final day at we at— and paid the fine. on the final day of the g7 summit- and paid the fine. on the final day of the g7 summit in- a�*r: r: �*" on the final day of the g7 summit in japan, went— day of the g7 summit in japan, world leaders— day of the g7 summit in japan, world leaders have set out their wane— world leaders have set out their ntane te— world leaders have set out their plans to tackle— world leaders have set out their plans to tackle aggression from cntna. — plans to tackle aggression from cntna. tne— plans to tackle aggression from china. the prime— plans to tackle aggression from china. the prime minister rishi senat— china. the prime minister rishi swnat, eart— china. the prime minister rishi sunak, said beijing poses the wggeet— sunak, said beijing poses the biggest challenge to global eeewntw— biggest challenge to global security, being— biggest challenge to global security, being the only country wttn— security, being the only country wttn wetn— security, being the only country with both the _ security, being the only country with both the means and intent to teenage— with both the means and intent to reenage tne— with both the means and intent to reshape the world order. us weewent— to reshape the world order. us president joe _ to reshape the world order. us president joe biden says there's eenntete— president joe biden says there's complete resolve— president joe biden says there's complete resolve and unity wttntn— complete resolve and unity wttntn tne— complete resolve and unity within the g7— complete resolve and unity within the g7 to work together to wretw— within the g7 to work together to firstly recognise china as a tnreat— to firstly recognise china as a tnreat ,— to firstly recognise china as a tnreat , tat— to firstly recognise china as a threat, but also— to firstly recognise china as a threat, but also to reduce to firstly recognise china as a threat , but also to reduce the threat, but also to reduce the net— threat, but also to reduce the net at— threat, but also to reduce the risk of international security . risk of international security. were— risk of international security. were net— risk of international security. we're not looking to decouple

tren— we're not looking to decouple trern cntna. — we're not looking to decouple from china. we're- we're not looking to decouple from china. �*th�*rz; ”c: g from china. we're looking to de—risk and diversify by our relationship with china . that relationship with china. that means taking steps to diversify our supply chains and we're not so we're not dependent on any one country for necessary products. it means resisting economic coercion together and countering harmful practises that hurt our workers . it means that hurt our workers. it means protecting a narrow set of advanced technologies. critic for our national security . the for our national security. the president of ukraine has addressed world leaders at the summit, saying he's confident kiev's peace formula has the potential to prevent future wars . he's thanked western allies for . he's thanked western allies tar tnetr— . he's thanked western allies for their ongoing— he's thanked western allies for their ongoing support, tnetwatng— for their ongoing support, including receiving american mate— including receiving american made t—re— including receiving american made f—16jets_ including receiving american made f—16 jets and the training of made f—16 jets and the training at wtratntan— made f—16 jets and the training of ukrainian pilots. vladimir zetenetw— of ukrainian pilots. vladimir zetenetw nae— of ukrainian pilots. vladimir zelenskyy has dismissed claims the zelenskyy has dismissed claims tne tweetan— zelenskyy has dismissed claims the russian mercenary wagner group— the russian mercenary wagner erewn nave— the russian mercenary wagner group have captured the eastern wtratntan— group have captured the eastern wtratntan artw— group have captured the eastern ukrainian city of— group have captured the eastern ukrainian city of bakhmut. when antea— ukrainian city of bakhmut. when asked w— ukrainian city of bakhmut. when asked w tne— ukrainian city of bakhmut. when asked if the city— ukrainian city of bakhmut. when asked if the city had fallen, he saw,— asked if the city had fallen, he saw, r— asked if the city had fallen, he saw, r tntnt— asked if the city had fallen, he said, i think not.— asked if the city had fallen, he said, i think not. but he did atntt— said, i think not. but he did admit there's— said, i think not. but he did admit there's nothing left there

. r— admit there's nothing left there . r annot— admit there's nothing left there . i cannot share— admit there's nothing left there . i cannot share with- admit there's nothing left there . i cannot share with you the tactical views of our military, of our warriors. but as of today , we can see that the country , , we can see that the country, which dozens times is bigger than we are, cannot occupy us, cannot win in this war. now our people are accomplishing a very important mission. they are now in bakhmut. i will not share where exactly, but it witnesses that bakhmut is not occupied by russian federation. as of today, there are no 2 or 3 interpreters of those words. the environment secretary says scrapping eu laws would boost the uk's domestic wine industry by £180 million. a number of brussels regulations tnat— a number of brussels regulations tnat wee— a number of brussels regulations that were retained— a number of brussels regulations that were retained after brexit wwt— that were retained after brexit wwt te— that were retained after brexit will be dropped— that were retained after brexit will be dropped as part of the tetatnet— will be dropped as part of the tetatnet tw— will be dropped as part of the retained eu law— will be dropped as part of the retained eu law bill including tnat— retained eu law bill including some that impact the wine eeeent — some that impact the wine sector. tyrese _ some that impact the wine sector. tyrese coffey says it wwt— sector. tyrese coffey says it wwt ete— sector. tyrese coffey says it will reduce unnecessary red tape,— will reduce unnecessary red tape, allowing— will reduce unnecessary red tape, allowing the industry to wave.— tape, allowing the industry to thrive. there— tape, allowing the industry to thrive. there are— tape, allowing the industry to thrive. there are about 400 pages— thrive. there are about 400 page at— thrive. there are about 400

pages of regulations handling rte— pages of regulations handling wine. it's becoming- pages of regulations handling wine. g , g wine. it's becoming a thriving industry in this country. engush industry in this country. english sparkling wine particularly. indeed, and one of the things that we're doing is simplifying all of that, getting rid of some of the unnecessary bureaucracy, which we believe could to £0.50 off could save up to £0.50 off a bottle of fizz . so that's good bottle of fizz. so that's good news for consumers as but it's a lot of this is really about deregulating and making sure that we still have good quality products enjoy that we still have good quality pr

it's back to. emily tnant— it's back to. emily thank you- it's back to. emily thank you very much, it's back to. emily— thank you very much, bethany. so tet-e— thank you very much, bethany. so tet-e get— thank you very much, bethany. so tet-e get stuck— thank you very much, bethany. so let's get stuck into— thank you very much, bethany. so let's get stuck into what our wret— let's get stuck into what our first tente— let's get stuck into what our first topic world _ let's get stuck into what our first topic world of westminster. it's a mad first topic world of— westminster. it's a mad world. went— westminster. it's a mad world. went swnat— westminster. it's a mad world. rishi sunak has— westminster. it's a mad world. rishi sunak has refused to back stewa— rishi sunak has refused to back suella braverman— rishi sunak has refused to back suella braverman publicly after the suella braverman publicly after tne—aetet- suella braverman publicly after the—asked civil| the home secretary asked civil tenants— the home secretary asked civil eerwante te— the home secretary asked civil servants to help _ the home secretary asked civil servants to help with a speeding tne— servants to help with a speeding wne. tne— servants to help with a speeding fine. the prime— servants to help with a speeding fine. the prime minister was nreeeet— fine. the prime minister was pressed about— fine. the prime minister was pressed about braverman in a prese— pressed about braverman in a press conference— pressed about braverman in a press conference at the g seven ewnntt— press conference at the g seven ewnntt. r— press conference at the g seven summit. i believe— press conference at the g seven summit. i believe not one, but twe— summit. i believe not one, but two journalists— summit. i believe not one, but two journalists asked him about this two journalists asked him about tnte tn— two journalists asked him about tnre rn ranan— two journalists asked him about this in japan after— two journalists asked him about this in japan after she repenetw— this in japan after she reportedly after suella braverman _ reportedly after suella braverman reportedly asked home owne— braverman reportedly asked home office officials— braverman reportedly asked home office officials to— braverman reportedly asked home office officials to organise a 1 to r— office officials to organise a 1 to r tnwng— office officials to organise a 1 to 1 driving awareness course ant— to 1 driving awareness course ant avert— to 1 driving awareness course and avoid incurring points and a tne— and avoid incurring points and a fine after— and avoid incurring points and a fine after ene— and avoid incurring points and a fine after she was— and avoid incurring points and a fine after she was caught egeettng— fine after she was caught speeding last— fine after she was caught speeding last summer. so joining me now from braverman's eenetttwenew— me now from braverman's constituency in— me now from braverman's constituency in fareham in wannentre— constituency in fareham in hampshire is— constituency in fareham in hampshire is gb news political regener— hampshire is gb news political reporter catherine— hampshire is gb news political reporter catherine forster. tnant— reporter catherine forster. tnantwew— reporter catherine forster. thank you very- reporter catherine forster. thank you very much . i was thank you very much. i was aaet— thank you very much. i was amazed, although perhaps not ewrnrteet— amazed, although perhaps not surprised, that— amazed, although perhaps not surprised, that rishi sunak was aetet— surprised, that rishi sunak was aetet attent— surprised, that rishi sunak was asked about this— surprised, that rishi sunak was asked about this not once but twtee— asked about this not once but twtee at— asked about this not once but twtee at tne— asked about this not once but twice at the g7— asked about this not once but twice at the g7 summit . yes

twice at the g7 summit. yes tnteet. — twice at the g7 summit. yes indeed. rishi— twice at the g7 summit. yes indeed. rishi sunak- twice at the g7 summit. yes indeed. his “at: twice at the g7 summit. yes indeed. 3~5 “at: twice at the g7 summit. yes indeed. 35 r: indeed. rishi sunak had a very successful summit, but could really have done without this unfortunate news as far as he and the home secretary are concerned , because, of course, concerned, because, of course, suella braverman is very important to his government. now. she had to stand down under liz truss because she had sent private government business accidentally to an mp. she stood down. five days later, she was reappointed by rishi sunak and now again the question has reared its head whether she may again have broken the ministerial code. let's have a little look at what rishi sunak had to say. i don't know the full details of what has happened, nor have i spoken to the home secretary. i think you can see the home secretary. i think you wret— the home secretary. i think you can see first hand— the home secretary. i think you can see first hand what- cg i think you can see first hand what i've teen— can see first hand what i've teen tang— can see first hand what i've been doing over— can see first hand what i've been doing over the last day or so, been doing over the last day or tat— been doing over the last day or tat r— been doing over the last day or so, but i understand that she's expreeeet— so, but i understand that she's expreeeet-ter— so, but i understand that she's expressed for speeding , expressed regret for speeding, aeeentet— expressed regret for speeding, accepted penalty and paid accepted the penalty and paid the accepted the penalty and paid tne tne— accepted the penalty and paid tne wne .— accepted the penalty and paid the fine . yeah— accepted the penalty and paid the fine . yeah _ accepted the penalty and paid the fine . yeah “65 c

the fine. yeah yes. so a bit of a non—answer there. labour labour and the lib democrats both calling for an investigation by the independent ethics adviser, sir laurie magnus , into this. the issue is magnus, into this. the issue is not, of course , that the home not, of course, that the home secretary was caught speeding. the issue is that it seems that she tried to arrange a private speed awareness course course, because supposedly she didn't fancy taking the fine. the points on her licence. she was allegedly worried about her insurance going up, but doing a driving course, either publicly onune driving course, either publicly online , her name. you know, online, her name. you know, obviously who she is. she's a pubuc obviously who she is. she's a public figure. would have been visible. now, she asked civil servants to help her. she was told that that was not possible, that it was not a appropriate and that really is the issue. civil servants are not supposed to involve themselves in private cabinet ministers affairs. and so , of course, the opposition, so, of course, the opposition, as you would expect ,

so, of course, the opposition, as you would expect, making hay with this, calling for an investigation. rishi sunak not saying whether that will happen , but nor is he giving the home secretary his full support . secretary his full support. thank you very much indeed. catnenne— thank you very much indeed. catherine force— thank you very much indeed. catherine force there reporting tren— catherine force there reporting from fareham _ catherine force there reporting from fareham in— catherine force there reporting from fareham in hampshire, which is from fareham in hampshire, which n stewa— from fareham in hampshire, which is suella braverman kyiv struensee. thank you very much tnteet— struensee. thank you very much tnteet .— struensee. thank you very much tnteet . teete— struensee. thank you very much indeed . looks glorious there indeed. looks glorious there ewtette— indeed. looks glorious there ewtette tn— indeed. looks glorious there outside in in— indeed. looks glorious there outside in in fareham. so moving to en— outside in in fareham. so moving to en tne— outside in in fareham. so moving to an we et— outside in in fareham. so moving to on the g7 summit itself, gang— to on the g7 summit itself, getng te— to on the g7 summit itself, we're going to be debating that tater— we're going to be debating that tater ,— we're going to be debating that tater , tw— we're going to be debating that tater , tw tne— we're going to be debating that later , by the way,— we're going to be debating that later , by the way, in the show later, by the way, in the show wnetner— later, by the way, in the show whether this _ later, by the way, in the show whether this is— later, by the way, in the show whether this is a— later, by the way, in the show whether this is a hanging ettenee— whether this is a hanging attenee, a— whether this is a hanging offence, a sacking offence for swetta— offence, a sacking offence for suella braverman. she breach suella braverman. did she breach the ministerial— suella braverman. did she breach the ministerial code is it the ministerial code or is it att— the ministerial code or is it at a— the ministerial code or is it at a wt— the ministerial code or is it at a wtla— the ministerial code or is it all a bit-a storm- the ministerial code or is it all a bit a storm in a all a bit of a storm in a teaewne— all a bit of a storm in a teacup? we'll- all a bit of a storm in a teacup? we'll be debating that tater— teacup? we'll be debating that tater-entw- teacup? we'll be debating that later-show, so- teacup? we'll be debating that later show, so stay later on in the show, so stay twnet— later on in the show, so stay twnet. nat— later on in the show, so stay tuned. but first,— later on in the show, so stay tuned. but first, sunak tuned. but first, rishi sunak nae— tuned. but first, rishi sunak has reinforced— tuned. but first, rishi sunak has reinforced his commitment to tangen— has reinforced his commitment to street vtattntr— has reinforced his commitment to support vladimir zelenskyy in the support vladimir zelenskyy in tne engetng— support vladimir zelenskyy in the ongoing fight against tweetan— the ongoing fight against russian forces . he told the russian forces. he told the wtratntan— russian forces. he told the ukrainian president that nntatn-e— ukrainian president that britain's support for ukraine wwt— britain's support for ukraine wttt nee— britain's support for ukraine will never waver. i want to pay tntwte— will never waver. i want to pay tntwte te— will never waver. i want to pay tntwte to my— will never waver. i want to pay tribute to my friend vladimir. it tribute to my friend vladimir. rt wa— tribute to my friend vladimir. rt a— tribute to my friend vladimir. it was a privilege— tribute to my friend vladimir. it was a privilege to - tribute to my friend vladimir. it was a privilege to welcome him to chequers earlier this week and i believe his

attendance at this g7 was a moment of historic significance as the image of the g7 and our partners standing shoulder to shoulder with president zelenskyy sends a powerful message about the unity and determination of the g7 allies . determination of the g7 allies. we will stand with ukraine for as long as it takes, because their security is our security . their security is our security. us rishi sunak. also warned that an tnereaetngw— us rishi sunak. also warned that an increasingly authoritarian cntna— an increasingly authoritarian cntna gases— an increasingly authoritarian china poses the— an increasingly authoritarian china poses the biggest enattenge— china poses the biggest challenge of— china poses the biggest challenge of our age after tteeweetng— challenge of our age after discussing how— challenge of our age after discussing how to tackle aggreeeten— discussing how to tackle aggression from beijing with western— aggression from beijing with western allies,— aggression from beijing with western allies, he said that cntna— western allies, he said that cntna te— western allies, he said that china is the— western allies, he said that china is the only country with wetn— china is the only country with tetn tne— china is the only country with both the means— china is the only country with both the means and intent to teenage— both the means and intent to teenage tne— both the means and intent to reshape the world order. so what nave — reshape the world order. so what nave teen— reshape the world order. so what nave teen tne— reshape the world order. so what have been the main achievements of have been the main achievements at tne— have been the main achievements at tne et— have been the main achievements of the g7 summit?— have been the main achievements of the g7 summit? some accuse it of the g7 summit? some accuse it at tetng— of the g7 summit? some accuse it at tetng tast— of the g7 summit? some accuse it at tetng just a— of the g7 summit? some accuse it of being just a talking shop . of being just a talking shop. nat— of being just a talking shop. nnt tet-e— of being just a talking shop. but let's see. _ of being just a talking shop. but let's see. i'm joined by sir stnen— but let's see. i'm joined by sir stnen wate— but let's see. i'm joined by sir simon male, former deputy chief of simon male, former deputy chief at defence— simon male, former deputy chief of defence staff.— simon male, former deputy chief of defence staff. thank you very nuan— of defence staff. thank you very nwen tnteet— of defence staff. thank you very much indeed for—

of defence staff. thank you very much indeed forjoining me in the much indeed forjoining me in tne stutte— much indeed forjoining me in the studio this— much indeed forjoining me in the studio this afternoon. great nteaewre— the studio this afternoon. great pteaewe. entw— the studio this afternoon. great pleasure. emily, you've seen the studio this afternoon. great pleassunaknily, you've seen the studio this afternoon. great pleassunak there ou've seen the studio this afternoon. great pleassunak there .u've seen the studio this afternoon. great pleassunak there . now, een the studio this afternoon. great pleassunak there . now, ofi rishi sunak there. now, of course, we started off with what nee— course, we started off with what ne-e-wnat— course, we started off with what ne-e-wnat nee— course, we started off with what he's what he's been asked he's been what he's been asked attent— he's been what he's been asked about-tne— he's been what he's been asked about-the world- he's been what he's been asked about-the world of- about in the in the world of westminster.— about in the in the world of westminster. but want talk westminster. but we want to talk attent— westminster. but we want to talk about-substance— westminster. but we want to talk about substance here. but about the substance here. but ten-t— about the substance here. but ten-t anewer— about the substance here. but don't answer that— about the substance here. but don't answer that one. a lot of ear-r— don't answer that one. a lot of ear-r eweneet- don't answer that one. a lot of our-i suspectidon'ti our viewers, i suspect i don't twe— our viewers, i suspect i don't we te— our viewers, i suspect i don't like to .cynical_ our viewers, i suspect i don't like to.cynical for- our viewers, i suspect i don't like to cynical for no good like to be cynical for no good reaeen-tet— like to be cynical for no good. reason.-lot-viewers reason. but a lot of our viewers ntgnt— reason. but a lot of our viewers ntgnt ntgnt— reason. but a lot of our viewers might might-that- reason. but a lot of our viewers might might that the g7 might might think that the g7 ewnntt— might might think that the g7 ewnnttla— might might think that the g7 summitla bit— might might think that the g7 summit-a bit of— might might think that the g7 summit a bit of a talking summit is a bit of a talking enen. — summit is a bit of a talking eneg. ltntnge— summit is a bit of a talking shop. things actually get shop. do things actually get tenet— shop. do things actually get tenet wett— shop. do things actually get done? well remember its origins, it's done? well remember its origins, we so— done? well remember its origins, we so weare— done? well remember its origins, it's 50 years old— done? well remember its origins, it's 50 years old this year. c it's 50 years old this year. it eer— it's 50 years old this year. it set an— it's 50 years old this year. it set up tn— it's 50 years old this year. it was set up in 1973- it's 50 years old this year. it was set up in 1973 for- was set up in 1973 for economically and politically. democratically minded, like minded countries. so it basically formed the west at a time when a very large proportion of the wealth was held in the west , proportion of the wealth was held in the west, and it's gradually morphed into very much an opportunity for world leaders to get to know each other despite telephone calls and zoom . there's nothing like sitting around individuals , as we around with individuals, as we all , particularly as you all know, particularly as you get a high turnover of democratic leaders, because of the nature of politics and elections . and occasionally, you

elections. and occasionally, you can argue it is a talking shop in 50 years, there isn't necessarily something every yean necessarily something every year, but at the moment i would argue that the challenge from russia and there are other places , iran and china really do places, iran and china really do demand that politicians or heads of state or government leaders do get together if they can and really thrash these things out. and it's not just them of course. it's a whole raft of officials, both military and civil servants and advisers who sit around in enormous amount of work bilaterals and off sites and coffee and bumping into each other in the corridor and it's a big message when 50% of the world's and we've got a room it is the g7 it's smaller than the 620 is the g7 it's smaller than the g20 which is very you know more economically focussed. but there were eight members of the wider 620. were eight members of the wider g20. also, there's observers . so g20. also, there's observers. so it is a lot of people prepared to stand up in public and commit their countries to support for ukraine or i won't say opposition, but prepared to

stand up to the challenge of china. so yes, no, it is it is much more than a talking shop, particularly in the current environment. so some the environment. so some years the accusation that it's a bit of a talking shop and a bit pointless stand, this year in stand, but this year in particular because of the threats we face currently the threats, ukraine faces, the threats, ukraine faces, the threats we face terms of threats we face in terms of china, absolutely. 100% essential because - china, absolutely. 100% essential because i- c“ 100% essential because i see eernetee— essential because i see sometimes it- essential because i see sometimes it looks like these teatere— sometimes it looks like these leaders think— sometimes it looks like these leaders think that they can eentret— leaders think that they can control world— leaders think that they can control world events. and i warn— control world events. and i warn tnat— control world events. and i worry that it's— control world events. and i worry that it's impossible, is it worry that it's impossible, is t new — worry that it's impossible, is t new rt— worry that it's impossible, is it not? it is. _ worry that it's impossible, is it not? it is. and- worry that it's impossible, is it not? it is. and of- worry that it's impossible, is it not? c “r: f it not? it is. and of course, the g7 is the dates are in the diary way in advance. and as i say, you can you can have some a date and then you have an election. so a brand new leader of a government turns and of a government turns up and equally, have it in the equally, you have it in the diary. you haven't clue diary. you haven't got a clue what's going in what's going to happen in a year's mean, year's time. i mean, particularly you in the news business absolutely particularly you in the news business that..olutely particularly you in the news business that..olutrcan't understand that. you can't guarantee it's going to be a dull year when you can say that was a of waste of an was a bit of a waste of an airfare in this case, know, airfare in this case, you know, they knew that china is a sustained , persistent challenge

sustained, persistent challenge to use the language. at the moment. we know russia has breached all international norms . so we knew the g7 had the capacity, which i think has proved to show like minded and democratically liberal free economy is standing shoulder to shoulder and as i say, to have eight other countries. there are really important because these are, you know, south korea , it's are, you know, south korea, it's australia, it's india , really australia, it's india, really critically important. i think brazil's they're all really big players in their region . so players in their region. so interrupt. but it's “ ” cit" so interrupt. but it's interesting tnat— interrupt. but it's interesting tnat wea— interrupt. but it's interesting that you mention countries like rntta— that you mention countries like rntta ant— that you mention countries like india and brazil— that you mention countries like india and brazil because these are india and brazil because these tne— india and brazil because these are the countries— india and brazil because these are the countries that vladimir zetenetw— are the countries that vladimir zelenskyy wants— are the countries that vladimir zelenskyy wants to charm because tnew-re— zelenskyy wants to charm because tnew-re ettttng— zelenskyy wants to charm because tnew-re ettttng en— zelenskyy wants to charm because they're sitting on the fence. so far, they're sitting on the fence. so g. tnew-re — they're sitting on the fence. so far, they're still— they're sitting on the fence. so far, they're still buying goods tren— far, they're still buying goods from tweeta— far, they're still buying goods from russia, oil— far, they're still buying goods from russia, oil and gas, eteetera— from russia, oil and gas, eteetera .— from russia, oil and gas, etcetera . et— from russia, oil and gas, etcetera . et cetera. and they're etcetera. et cetera. and they're net— etcetera. et cetera. and they're not wwttng— etcetera. et cetera. and they're not wttttng te— etcetera. et cetera. and they're not willing to make a stance. is tnat— not willing to make a stance. is tnat-teeawee— not willing to make a stance. is that because developing that simply because developing eewnnete— that simply because developing countries like— that simply because developing countries like india, brazil ten-t— countries like india, brazil ten-t want— countries like india, brazil don't want to _ countries like india, brazil don't want to well, want to act gatew— don't want to well, want to act nnrew tn— don't want to well, want to act nnrew tn tnetr— don't want to well, want to act purely in their own self interests,— purely in their own self interests, which is understandable and don't interests, which is— understandable and don't want to get-tn— understandable and don't want to get-tn ewen— understandable and don't want to get-tn ewen a— understandable and don't want to get in such a conflict? get involved in such a conflict? yest— get involved in such a conflict?

wee eertatntw. — get involved in such a conflict? yes, certainly. i— get involved in such a conflict? yes, certainly. c yes, certainly. i think it absolutely is. and they're playing both sides off to an extent. they're benefiting. on the one hand, they're not committing nobody wants to be seen to be actively supporting russia. but equally , the jury is russia. but equally, the jury is still out. how this how this endsis still out. how this how this ends is the g7 commitment to providing a fighter capability for ukraine to an extent , providing a fighter capability for ukraine to an extent, is to try and accelerate a good outcome rather than something that just drags on year after year. that just drags on year after year . the that just drags on year after year. the danger on one hand is that biden has committed to allowing f—16s to be fielded. we don't have f—16s. britain but we can train up f—16 . i've seen can train up f—16. i've seen this can train up f—16. i've seen tnte wart.— can train up f—16. i've seen this word. i'm— can train up f—16. i've seen this word. i'm not- can train up f—16. i've seen this word. i'm not an- tart“ “ c. �*7 i've seen this word. i'm not an expert on wgnter— this word. i'm not an expert on ttgnter rete— this word. i'm not an expert on ttgnter tete .— this word. i'm not an expert on fighter jets . are— this word. i'm not an expert on fighter jets . are these the big, fighter jets. are these the big, big fighter jets. are these the big, wg teat— fighter jets. are these the big, big deal fighter— fighter jets. are these the big, big deal fighter jets? are they the big deal fighter jets? are they tne teet— big deal fighter jets? are they the best ones?— big deal fighter jets? are they the best ones? they're not, no. ant— the best ones? they're not, no. ant tn— the best ones? they're not, no. ant tn nat— the best ones? they're not, no. and i'm not saying— the best ones? they're not, no. and i'm not saying that- the best ones? they're not, no. and i'm not saying that they're not terrific, but they're ideal for ukraine. it's a bit like the leopard 2 tank for the army. there's plenty of them. many many people have them. so can provide them. it's relative . provide them. it's relative. well well understood. technology so the capacity for many

countries to train. so it's an ideal surge capacity. we you know, we like challenger two tanks. we haven't got many. they're quite complicated, actually . leopard two was always actually. leopard two was always the answer. so f6 is not typhoon. it's not f—35, but it's an absolutely ideal air capability for ukraine and an easy an easier capability to feel that scale than almost any other aircraft. and i think crucially for us in britain and our allies, we want to know, is this having the desired effect ? this having the desired effect? is putin going to be watching wnat-e— is putin going to be watching wnat-e gang— is putin going to be watching what's going on— is putin going to be watching what's going on at the g7 , all what's going on at the g7, all tneee— what's going on at the g7, all tneee extra— what's going on at the g7, all these extra commitments? we've atee— these extra commitments? we've atee neat— these extra commitments? we've atee neart et— these extra commitments? we've also heard of new— these extra commitments? we've also heard of new sanctions on ttanente— also heard of new sanctions on ttanente ant— also heard of new sanctions on diamonds and rare— also heard of new sanctions on diamonds and rare metals and tntnge— diamonds and rare metals and tntnge twe— diamonds and rare metals and things like this— diamonds and rare metals and things like this from russia . is things like this from russia. is twe— things like this from russia. is tnte gang— things like this from russia. is tnte getng te— things like this from russia. is this going to have the desired effect— this going to have the desired effect e— this going to have the desired effect e re— this going to have the desired effect ? is all— this going to have the desired effect ? is all money and effect? is all our money and resources going— effect? is all our money and resources going this resources going into this eanpatgn— resources going into this campaign, this war effort? and it's campaign, this war effort? and we getng— campaign, this war effort? and we getng te— campaign, this war effort? and it's going to lead— campaign, this war effort? and it's going to lead to success ter— it's going to lead to success ter a— it's going to lead to success ter a very,— it's going to lead to success ter a very, very— it's going to lead to success for a very, very good question . for a very, very good question. vea— for a very, very good question. tea an— for a very, very good question. tea anw— for a very, very good question. you can only hope.— for a very, very good question. you can only hope. the- for a very, very good question. you can only hope. the reality is, as i say on the one hand, biden's committed, so he's allowed other countries. that's important. it's a bit like germany countries germany allowed other countries to export led ba.2. on the other

hand, there's a there's a presidential election coming up . know, opinion very . you know, opinion is very heavily divided in the united states at moment. biden states at the moment. biden administration into administration is leaning into it. rishi sunak has taken on the policy that was under truss and obviously boris johnson leading from the front. but politics change. so the commitment to trying to get a solution , a trying to get a solution, a solution, an outcome that doesn't involve either russian victory or partition of ukraine is quite an imperative . the air is quite an imperative. the air capability will not be fielded in time for the ground. the much vaunted counter offensive ground counter offensive . but it is a counter offensive. but it is a real statement of intent at that for russia. also it's increasingly economically weak , increasingly economically weak, horrendous levels of casualties . and russia's position vis a vis china is increasing weakness. so putin is now looking to himself very much a junior partner to g. so, again , junior partner to g. so, again, it sort of puts a bit of more pressure on and people pressure on him and the people around him . well, i hope you're

around him. well, i hope you're ngnt— around him. well, i hope you're ngnt ant— around him. well, i hope you're ngnt ant r— around him. well, i hope you're ngnt ant r nape— “r: “ well, i hope you're right and i hope provides right and i hope that provides enewgn— right and i hope that provides enough-pressure- right and i hope that provides enough pressure . thank enough enough pressure. thank you-much— enough enough pressure. thank wen-nwen r— enough enough pressure. thank you-much. i could- enough enough pressure. thank you much. i could to you very much. i could speak to you— you very much. i could speak to wen att— you very much. i could speak to you at taw— you very much. i could speak to you at taw en— you very much. i could speak to you all day on that, but that's all you all day on that, but that's at w-wee— you all day on that, but that's at get— you all day on that, but that's all we've got time— you all day on that, but that's all we've got time for. former tenww— all we've got time for. former deputy—defence. deputy chief of the defence gag, — deputy chief of the defence gag, -wawe. - deputy chief of the defence staff, mayo. thank staff, sir simon mayo. thank you very— staff, sir simon mayo. thank you wen—wear- staff, sir simon mayo. thank you wen—wear ttnel staff, sir simon mayo. thank you wen—wear ttne -i very much indeed for your time. very— very much indeed for your time. very interesting.— very much indeed for your time. very interesting. moving on very interesting. now, moving on to wennern— very interesting. now, moving on to northern ireland— very interesting. now, moving on to northern ireland politics. stnn— to northern ireland politics. stnn tern— to northern ireland politics. stnn tern te— to northern ireland politics. sinn fein is now— to northern ireland politics. sinn fein is now the largest party— sinn fein is now the largest panw tn— sinn fein is now the largest party in northern irish local gewernent— party in northern irish local government, as— party in northern irish local government, as well as in sternent— government, as well as in stormont following local eteettene— stormont following local elections-this- stormont following local elections this week. stormont following local- elections-this week. gb elections earlier this week. gb wewe— elections earlier this week. gb news northern— elections earlier this week. gb news northern ireland reporter wewgte— news northern ireland reporter dougie beattie_ news northern ireland reporter dougie beattie joins now . dougie beattie joins us now. wewgte— dougie beattie joins us now. nengte, wnat— dougie beattie joins us now. dougie, what are the consequence of dougie, what are the consequence at twee— dougie, what are the consequence at twee wett— dougie, what are the consequence of this? well, it's— dougie, what are the consequence of this? well, it's a— dougie, what are the consequence of this? well, it's a better twan— of this? well, it's a better than expected _ of this? well, it's a better than expected result, is it . not than expected result, is it. not wett— than expected result, is it. not wett rt— than expected result, is it. not wett tt te— than expected result, is it. not well, it is better— than expected result, is it. not well, it is better than- than expected result, is it. not well, it is better than expected for sinn fein. it's the first time they've ever been this size of party, but it's not the first time that nationalism has got about 39 to 40% of the vote. that happened with the sdlp and sinn fein together back in 1998. well, what is now happening? what we are seeing happening is the middle ground being swallowed up by either side and the alliance trying to survive in the middle. so the sdlp in

1998 was very much the bigger party in that in that time. and sinn fein was smaller. that has now flipped on its head and sinn fein are the biggest nationalist party. in fact they are the biggest party in national are in regional government here. they're also in local government. they're the largest party in irish. doyle and party in the irish. doyle and they're not in government, they're not in government, they're either. they also have mps in westminster now. they are an extremely effective electoral electoral machine. there is no doubt on that. and in pr elections , they can really, elections, they can really, really get their vote out. but a few things that have come out of thatis few things that have come out of that is that the middle ground, as i say, has gone. so the sdlp has been swallowed up, but in unionist terms , the ulster unionist terms, the ulster unionist terms, the ulster unionist party that was the more liberal unionist party and was prepared to go to in government in stormont under the framework document or protocol was lost 16 seats. so that is very much a warning to jeffrey donaldson. do not go there , sir, because if

not go there, sir, because if you do , you could take a real you do, you could take a real beating in the polls. so chris heaton—harris, who is trying to get northern ireland back up and running again because of post brexit trading arrangements has a real problem on his hands because if he goes back to the polls now to get stormont up and running, sinn fein will come back as the largest party as it is already . back as the largest party as it is already. the dup will come back as the second largest party as it is already, and the alliance party will come back in the middle ground in third place and the other parties at that stage of the game might well be wiped out altogether . so he wiped out altogether. so he either decides that he wants to bnng either decides that he wants to bring the good friday agreement back to consent and allows jeffrey donaldson, the dup, to have what was post or was former formally in place with the good friday agreement or he decides to scrap the good friday agreement and bend that consent. and that's dodgy times for chris

heaton—harris . but of course it heaton—harris. but of course it also makes starts a discussion about a border poll . the snp are about a border poll. the snp are very good at this and once they took power the way they did, everything was about a border poll and a referendum which actually has in some terms you might look at and say, well, it's held scotland back quite a lot because people don't want to invest in a place where they don't know the future of in don't know the future of it in the next years. so there is the next ten years. so there is quite large conversation about quite a large conversation about to take place, but it cannot afford to be dominated . it has afford to be dominated. it has to be sorted out . thank you very to be sorted out. thank you very nuan— to be sorted out. thank you very nwen tnteet— to be sorted out. thank you very much indeed. dougie— : thank you very much indeed. dougie beattie tnere— much indeed. dougie beattie tnere ter— much indeed. dougie beattie there for bringing us up to date on there for bringing us up to date an tne— there for bringing us up to date on the elections— there for bringing us up to date on the elections in— there for bringing us up to date on the elections in northern retant. — on the elections in northern ireland. beautiful backdrop, i meet— ireland. beautiful backdrop, i meet eat.— ireland. beautiful backdrop, i must say. there— ireland. beautiful backdrop, i must say. there from dougie nette— must say. there from dougie neattte. vea— must say. there from dougie beattie. you are— must say. there from dougie beattie. you are watching and ttetentng— beattie. you are watching and ttetentnglen— beattie. you are watching and listening gb news sunday with listening to gb news sunday with me, listening to gb news sunday with tntw— listening to gb news sunday with me, emily carville._ listening to gb news sunday with me, emily carville. got me, emily carville. we've got tate— me, emily carville. we've got tote—wn- me, emily carville. we've got tote—an en- me, emily carville. we've got. lots—up on today's lots more coming up on today's entw— lots more coming up on today's enew—etatnel show, including labour claims twan— show, including labour claims more than 23,000 people died in wet— more than 23,000 people died in war tn— more than 23,000 people died in war tn zon— more than 23,000 people died in a&e in 2022. kiss— more than 23,000 people died in a&e in 2022. kiss keir starmer rtgnt— a&e in 2022. kiss keir starmer rtgnt te— a&e in 2022. kiss keir starmer rtgnt to eat— a&e in 2022. kiss keir starmer rtgnt to eat tne— a&e in 2022. kiss keir starmer right to say the nhs is not sustainable— right to say the nhs is not sustainable without fixing the fundamentals.— sustainable without fixing the fundamentals. and what exactly are fundamentals. and what exactly tneee — fundamentals. and what exactly are those fundamentals he's tatttng— are those fundamentals he's

talking about— are those fundamentals he's talking about ?_ are those fundamentals he's talking about ? what does are those fundamentals he's talking about? what does nhs referen— talking about? what does nhs reterrn teet— talking about? what does nhs reform look like— talking about? what does nhs reform look like to labour? wett— reform look like to labour? we-tt te— reform look like to labour? we'll be chatting about that after— we'll be chatting about that after tne— we'll be chatting about that after the weather . hello there. after the weather. hello there. weteenne— after the weather. hello there. wetcanne ta — after the weather. hello there. welcome to your— after the weather. hello there. welcome to your gb— after the weather. hello there. welcome to your gb news weather forecast from the met office. i'm craig snell. we're looking ahead to the week ahead. for most be mainly most of us it should be mainly dry with spells of sunshine most of us it should be mainly da with spells of sunshine most of us it should be mainly da little spells of sunshine most of us it should be mainly da little bit spells of sunshine most of us it should be mainly da little bit of spells of sunshine most of us it should be mainly da little bit of rain.s of sunshine most of us it should be mainly da little bit of rain fromsunshine most of us it should be mainly da little bit of rain from time ine , a little bit of rain from time to time across scotland and northern ireland. that's northern ireland. and that's really end really how we're going to end the weekend. have this really how we're going to end the vfront nd. have this really how we're going to end the vfront nd. it have this really how we're going to end the vfront nd. it willhave this really how we're going to end the vfront nd. it will weakens cold front here. it will weaken as head into monday this as we head into monday as this area really area of high pressure really begins to dominate the begins to dominate across the united kingdom. but before we get can see across get there, you can see it across northern ireland scotland as northern ireland and scotland as we sunday. probably most we end sunday. probably the most persistent rain across eastern scotland, where further south across england and wales, lots of around, of clear skies around, especially out towards the west. but could allow it turn but that could allow it to turn quite chilly. so just like last night, we see temperatures night, we could see temperatures as 1 or 2 degrees across as low as 1 or 2 degrees across some spots wales some prone spots of wales and the but for most, as the midlands. but for most, as we start the new working week , we start the new working week, it should fairly quiet. best it should be fairly quiet. best of the sunshine will be initially across many western parts of the uk out towards the

east we have some low cloud coming in from the north sea. still the risk of the odd spot of rain too, for eastern scotland. but as we through scotland. but as we go through the day , most it the course of the day, most it should dry. could see should be dry. could just see the shower the very the odd shower across the very far scotland, but in far north of scotland, but in the feeling pleasantly the sunshine feeling pleasantly warm, reaching warm, could see highs reaching 23 24 degrees down 23 or possibly 24 degrees down towards the south—west. but please do note high uv levels if you are out about into the you are out and about into the evening, a fine end to the day for most could just see the odd shower across the pennines. but that should they should quickly disappear as head the disappear as we head into the small of tuesday morning. small hours of tuesday morning. and for many largely clear skies will allow another fairly chilly night for the time of year. but most towns and cities should hold up around 10 to 11 degrees. so we start tuesday on another sunny note, the exception really the very far north of scotland, where we continue to see the risk of some cloud and some outbreaks of rain. and that really continues as we go into wednesday and thursday. always the best of the sunshine, probably down towards the south

and in the sunshine, feeling warm with highs potentially reaching the mid thursday

,as , as you're listening to gb news tatte— , as you're listening to gb news ttatte .— radio. welcome back to gb news sunday with emily carver your tv with me, emily carver on your tv and radio. now the and digital radio. now the ultimate list of who's who in the uk has been released this week. tells us whose wealth week. it tells us whose wealth has gone up and whose wealth has gone down. so the billionaire hinduja family topped the sunday times rich list for the second yearin times rich list for the second year in a row, adding more than £6 billion to their fortune for the first time 14 years. the the first time in 14 years. the number billionaires on the number of billionaires on the list by 6 to 171. so we've list fell by 6 to 171. so we've got fewer billionaires in this country . but those who stayed in country. but those who stayed in the billionaires club still saw their wealth grow by close to £31 billion. so there are fewer billionaires. but the ones we do have are earning more . now, have are earning more. now, that's my assessment there. so

joining me now is political commentator emma wolfe and former editor of labourlist , former editor of labourlist, peter edwards. thank you very much indeed, emma. i'll start with you, son. day rich list. why do you think we do this? do we have a fat nation with the rich people in this country ? is rich people in this country? is it a bit of envy? just curious . it a bit of envy? just curious. motty what is it ? yeah, i it a bit of envy? just curious. motty what is it? yeah, i mean, i motty what is it? yeah, i mean, ttntnt— motty what is it? yeah, i mean, ttntnt tt-e— motty what is it? yeah, i mean, i think it's genuinely— c?’ yeah, i mean, i think it's genuinely quite taeetnattng— i think it's genuinely quite fascinating to— i think it's genuinely quite fascinating to find out that, for fascinating to find out that, tar exannte— fascinating to find out that, for example, poor rishi sunak. can— for example, poor rishi sunak. can we— for example, poor rishi sunak. can we tast— for example, poor rishi sunak. can we just have— for example, poor rishi sunak. can we just have a— for example, poor rishi sunak. can we just have a moment for the prime minister who's now only worth 529 million? he and his wife are losing in the last year? emily rishi and his wife were losing £500,000 a day off the value of the father in law's company. so i think it is quite illuminating to realise you know, just quite how staggering these levels of wealth are. i'm not one of the people that says, oh, you know, politicians are so rich they don't understand it. but i think when you're talking

about these levels of wealth billionaires, you're talking about even the chancellor and the prime minister you have to realise how can they, especially in the cost of living crisis, how can they understand what it's like to worry about the price of bread or price of price of bread or the price of milk? think it is quite it's milk? i think it is quite it's quite a good reminder about the different levels of wealth. so rishi sunak was losing more per day than most people will ever make in a lifetime. it kind of opens a window into a different universe. yeah, opens a window into a different universe . yeah, i mean, good universe. yeah, i mean, good netnte— universe. yeah, i mean, good netnte. nat— universe. yeah, i mean, good points. but peter,— universe. yeah, i mean, good points. but peter, do- c. “ yeah, i mean, good points. but peter, do you enwtter— points. but peter, do you shudder when- points. but peter, do you shudder when you look at this wett— shudder when you look at this ttete we— shudder when you look at this ttete to wet— shudder when you look at this list? do you think— shudder when you look at this list? do you think people should te— list? do you think people should te atte— list? do you think people should even be able to— list? do you think people should even be able to earn this much ? even be able to earn this much? wean. — even be able to earn this much? wean. vea— even be able to earn this much? wean. tea knew— even be able to earn this much? yeah. you know ,— even be able to earn this much? yeah. you know , we're- even be able to earn this much? yeah. you know, we're socialists who want a market economy . we're who want a market economy. we're not communists. if people do well for themselves, good luck to them. but they've got to pay tnetr— to them. but they've got to pay tnetr taaee— to them. but they've got to pay their taxes and _ to them. but they've got to pay their taxes and the— but they've got to pay their taxes and the government has their taxes and the government nae te— their taxes and the government has to deliver— their taxes and the government has to deliver an— their taxes and the government has to deliver an economic eweten — has to deliver an economic eweten tnat— has to deliver an economic system that allows fairness for the system that allows fairness for tne eewntw. — system that allows fairness for tne eenntrw ee— system that allows fairness for the country. so i'll give you gatew— the country. so i'll give you one quick stat.— the country. so i'll give you one quick stat. the tax gap,

wnten— one quick stat. the tax gap, wnten te— one quick stat. the tax gap, wnten te a— one quick stat. the tax gap, wnten te a gap— one quick stat. the tax gap, which is a gap that hmrc measures between the taxes owed and measures between the taxes owed ant te— measures between the taxes owed ant te aetwatw— measures between the taxes owed and is actually paid, is £32 ttttten— and is actually paid, is £32 billion and— and is actually paid, is £32 billion and it's— and is actually paid, is £32 billion and it's gone up, not tawn— billion and it's gone up, not tewn tn— billion and it's gone up, not down, in recent— billion and it's gone up, not down, in recent years. “ down, in recent years. so in a tan a tat— down, in recent years. so in a sense i'm a lot more exercised about that. the tax that has gene— about that. the tax that has gene nneatt— about that. the tax that has gone unpaid under- the tax that has gone unpaid under this government. 3 gone unpaid under this government. “5“tg gone unpaid under this— government. but hang on, peter, is that is that necessary, billionaires millionaires billionaires and millionaires who paying their or who aren't paying their taxes or could just be the general could that just be the general pubuc could that just be the general public cash in hand ? public doing cash in hand? well, millionaires and billionaires- well, millionaires and billionaires are the general pewte— billionaires are the general enttte. tne— billionaires are the general public. the point for hmrc , public. the point for hmrc, eweenew— public. the point for hmrc, everyone comes— public. the point for hmrc, everyone comes under hmrc. hmrc is everyone comes under hmrc. hmrc te tntereetet. — everyone comes under hmrc. hmrc is interested. i'm— everyone comes under hmrc. hmrc is interested. i'm just— is interested. i'm just wondering if we can if we if we're talking about millionaires and the super rich in this conversation. so i was just wondering if you're saying that it's the millionaires and the billionaires aren't paying billionaires who aren't paying their taxes as well. i'm not going to their taxes as well. i'm not getng te tantw— " i'm not going to bandy around allegations.- allegations. what i'd say if wee— allegations. what i'd say if you're-wealthy- allegations. what i'd say if you're-wealthy ,- allegations. what i'd say if you're wealthy , then it's you're very wealthy, then it's easier-expensive. easier to afford expensive eettettere— easier to afford expensive solicitors advised us tax consultants _ solicitors advised us tax consultants and we've seen it wttn— consultants and we've seen it with occasionally— consultants and we've seen it with occasionally ex—football etawere— with occasionally ex—football etawere ant— with occasionally ex—football players and premier league managers being caught out and nanet— managers being caught out and nanet ewtttetw— managers being caught out and named publicly. and then going to named publicly. and then going te eewrt— named publicly. and then going te eewrt te— named publicly. and then going to court to challenge it. but tnew-re— to court to challenge it. but

tnew-re-tne— to court to challenge it. but they're-the-the. they're just the tip of the teeterg, — they're just the tip of the teeterg, yew— they're just the tip of the iceberg, you know , if you're iceberg, you know, if you're a twttter— iceberg, you know, if you're a twttter en— iceberg, you know, if you're a builder on 40— iceberg, you know, if you're a builder on 40 grand a year, you cant— builder on 40 grand a year, you cant ntre— builder on 40 grand a year, you cant ntre an— builder on 40 grand a year, you can't hire an expensive eenewttant— can't hire an expensive consultant negotiate your tax consultant to negotiate your tax tttt — consultant to negotiate your tax tttt rt— consultant to negotiate your tax tttt tt-a— consultant to negotiate your tax bill. if a millionaire or bill. if you're a millionaire or billionaire,— bill. if you're a millionaire or billionaire,-can.- bill. if you're a millionaire or billionaire, can. so the billionaire, you can. so the eweten —tnat| billionaire, you can. so the system _that is system is unequal. that that is definitely true. emma, do you worry? don't know if you've worry? i don't know if you've seen, but have been seen, but there have been reports recently showing that we've had a net outflow . so we've had a net outflow. so we've had a net outflow. so we've had a net outflow. so we've had lots of high net worth individuals. i think a thousand last year. net are leaving the country. so presumably taking their business and the potential tax income for our public services out of the country. do you worry that if we make it too hard for rich people in this country by taxing regulators cetera? et cetera. et cetera, that we might lose them and then b b be sad, actually, in the end that we that we miss them . i that we that we miss them. i don't think we're going to be eat— don't think we're going to be eat atewt— don't think we're going to be sad about it.— don't think we're going to be sad about it. and— don't think we're going to be sad about it. and i'm not eentnet— sad about it. and i'm not convinced that- sad about it. and i'm not convinced that the super i'm not eentnet— convinced that the super i'm not convinced that— convinced that the super i'm not convinced that the— convinced that the super i'm not convinced that the super i'm not convinced that the super wealthy do convinced that the super wealthy te-wt.— convinced that the super wealthy te-wt. we— convinced that the super wealthy te-wt. we wear- convinced that the super wealthy do uk. we hear these do leave the uk. we hear these tnreate. — do leave the uk. we hear these ttreate-ttt— do leave the uk. we hear these threats.-bit-all- threats. it's a bit like all tneee— threats. it's a bit like all those people _ threats. it's a bit like all- those people-going to those people that were going to teate— those people that were going to teawe-tt— those people that were going to leave - if brexit - those people that were going to leave-if brexit was- those people that were going to leave if brexit was voted leave the uk if brexit was voted tnrewgn— leave the uk if brexit was voted tnrewgn-tnat— through. well that didn't naeeen. — through. well that didn't happen. .check- through. well that didn't. happen. .check though through. well that didn't- happen. .check though last

happen. fact check though last yeah happen. fact check though last year. a thousand outflow of year. a thousand net outflow of high net worth individuals. yeah. okay but emily, i genwtnew— / but emily, i genuinely believe that people twe— genuinely believe that people ttwe wnere— genuinely believe that people live where they— genuinely believe that people live where they want to live . as live where they want to live. as peter— live where they want to live. as weter eawe — live where they want to live. as eeter eawe, yew— live where they want to live. as peter says, you can— live where they want to live. as peter says, you can more than attert — peter says, you can more than attert a— peter says, you can more than attert a geet— peter says, you can more than afford a good tax— peter says, you can more than afford a good tax lawyer if you are afford a good tax lawyer if you reattw— afford a good tax lawyer if you are really, really— afford a good tax lawyer if you are really, really worried about atewt— are really, really worried about atewt paying— are really, really worried about about paying the— are really, really worried about about paying the highest tax tewet — about paying the highest tax level. .there_ about paying the highest tax level. .there are- about paying the highest tax level. there are ways of level. so there are ways of tetng— level. so there are ways of tetng-tnew- level. so there are ways of doing they people super doing that. they people super weattnw— doing that. they people super wealthy-where— doing that. they people super wealthy where their wives wealthy live where their wives are—ttwe - wealthy live where their wives are _ live where - are happy, they live where tnet-re— are happy, they live where tnew-re-tnew- are happy, they live where they're they live, where they're happy, they live, where tnetr— they're happy, they live, where tnet—tnet- their social lives are, they twe— their social lives are, they tne-tnet- their social lives are, they live their children their social lives are, they live _their children to live where their children go to eeneet —te - live where their children go to school, _to the. school, where they go to the teet— school, where they go to the best schools,— school, where they go to the best schools, which we know you knew— best schools, which we know you knew-wett — best schools, which we know you know .well. _the - best schools, which we know youi know .well. _the best know very well. some of the best eeneete— know very well. some of the best anewe-wt.— know very well. some of the best schools- uk. so - schools are in the uk. so i ten-t— schools are in the uk. so i ten-t tntnt— schools are in the uk. so i don't think that- schools are in the uk. so i don't think that they'll leave. ant— don't think that they'll leave. ant-wee— don't think that they'll leave. ant-wee tt- don't think that they'll leave. ant-wee tt nay- don't think that they'll leave. and yes, it may it and actually, yes, it may it course . affects - and actually, yes, it may it course .affects in- and actually, yes, it may it course affects in terms of course it affects in terms of twetneee— course it affects in terms of business decisions course it affects in terms of- business-decisions and business business decisions and wet— business business decisions and tnet—ant- business business decisions and their_ and things. business business decisions and theiithat and things business business decisions and theiithat . and things business business decisions and theiithat . i and things business business decisions and theiithat . i don't and things business business decisions and theiithat . i don't think things business business decisions and theiithat . i don't think they're like that. i don't think they're teawtng— like that. i don't think they're teawtng tn— like that. i don't think they're leaving in droves.— like that. i don't think they're leaving in droves. think the leaving in droves. i think the uk-veryr- leaving in droves. i think the uk-veryr wen- uk remains a very, very teetratte— uk remains a very, very desirable-live.| uk remains a very, veryi desirable-live. i uk remains a very, very- desirable-live. i hope desirable place to live. i hope i desirable place to live. i hope t tene— desirable place to live. i hope t neee wewre— desirable place to live. i hope i hope you're right, because i do i hope you're right, because i te—a— i hope you're right, because i te—a tet- i hope you're right, because i te—a tet et- i hope you're right, because ii do_a lot of people, do worry that a lot of people, eantewtarw— do worry that a lot of people, particularly—highi particularly not just net high net-individuals,- particularly not just net high net individuals, but also net worth individuals, but also aeetrattenat— net worth individuals, but also aspirational younger people, are teettng— aspirational younger people, are teettng-te— aspirational younger people, are teettng-te eee- aspirational younger people, are looking to see where they looking abroad to see where they can looking abroad to see where they nake— looking abroad to see where they can make more money and be taxed teee— can make more money and be taxed teeelte— can make more money and be taxed teeelte entnt— can make more money and be taxed less-do think that's— can make more money and be taxed less-do think that's very- less. i do think that's very true. peter, just lastly, wealth taxes, you want more them taxes, do you want more of them 7 taxes, do you want more of them ? oh, that's a tough one.

labouris ? oh, that's a tough one. labour is going to face a lot ? oh, that's a tough one. - labour is going to face a lot of ereeewe tn— labour is going to face a lot of pressure in the— labour is going to face a lot of pressure in the run— labour is going to face a lot of pressure in the run up to eteetten— pressure in the run up to election. it— pressure in the run up to election. it brought out a mansion tax— election. it brought out a mansion tax idea in the ed wttttant— mansion tax idea in the ed miliband era— mansion tax idea in the ed miliband era .— mansion tax idea in the ed miliband era . you know, that was miliband era. you know, that was gwtte— miliband era. you know, that was gwtte a— miliband era. you know, that was gwtte a geet— miliband era. you know, that was quite a good policy, but it was eeeenttatw— quite a good policy, but it was essentially seen— quite a good policy, but it was essentially seen as pinching a lib essentially seen as pinching a ttt wen— essentially seen as pinching a ttt wen ene— essentially seen as pinching a lib dem one. and— essentially seen as pinching a lib dem one. and there's some trwtn—te- lib dem one. and there's some trwtn—te ne- lib dem one. and there's some truth _to me, the l truth in that. and to me, the tnat— truth in that. and to me, the one that really— truth in that. and to me, the one that really no government nae— one that really no government nae teen— one that really no government has been afraid,— one that really no government has been afraid, been willing to taette— has been afraid, been willing to taette wewtt— has been afraid, been willing to tackle would have— has been afraid, been willing to tackle would have been afraid is tnnerttanee— tackle would have been afraid is inheritance tax— tackle would have been afraid is inheritance tax because that tnat— inheritance tax because that that benefits _ inheritance tax because that that benefits the middle class is that benefits the middle class te ant— that benefits the middle class is and there's— that benefits the middle class is and there's a— that benefits the middle class is and there's a lot of gaming in is and there's a lot of gaming tn tne— is and there's a lot of gaming tn tne eweten— is and there's a lot of gaming in the system in— is and there's a lot of gaming in the system in terms of use of tantw— in the system in terms of use of tantw trwete— in the system in terms of use of family trusts and— in the system in terms of use of family trusts and so on. so tatewr— family trusts and so on. so labour will— family trusts and so on. so labour will go _ family trusts and so on. so labour will go into the election wanttng— labour will go into the election wanttng te— labour will go into the election wanting to spend— labour will go into the election wanting to spend more. it will be challenged— wanting to spend more. it will be challenged on— wanting to spend more. it will be challenged on to how pay it if be challenged on to how pay it tt tt— be challenged on to how pay it tt tt neete— be challenged on to how pay it if it needs one.— be challenged on to how pay it if it needs one. tax reform, apart— if it needs one. tax reform, aean tren — if it needs one. tax reform, apart from just— if it needs one. tax reform, apart from just missing the tax tnat-e— apart from just missing the tax that's-through- that's forgone through avoidance,— that's forgone through avoidance, let's reform it. well tnee— avoidance, let's reform it. well tnere wew— avoidance, let's reform it. well tnere you ge. — avoidance, let's reform it. well tnere you ge. t— avoidance, let's reform it. well there you go. : g avoidance, let's reform it. well there you go. d there you go. i would argue that wealth taxes, unfortunately, do not work. i don't have to not work. i don't have time to come back to you, emma. unfortunately. i'm very sorry, but that was very interesting discussion you for discussion indeed. thank you for joining wolf, political discussion indeed. thank you for joining there.llolf, political discussion indeed. thank you for joining there. and political commentator there. and former editor peter editor of labourlist peter edwards. very much edwards. thank you very much indeed. at what indeed. let me know at home what you you think we you think. do you think we punish the rich, demonise the

rich, or do you think it's a bit sickly, that there are sickly, actually, that there are so earning so many billionaires earning so much a cost of much when we're in a cost of living you are watching living crisis? you are watching and listening sunday and listening to gb news sunday with carville. we've with me, emily carville. we've got up on got lots more coming up on today's we depend got lots more coming up on tocmigrants we depend got lots more coming up on toc migrants for we depend got lots more coming up on toc migrants for manual; depend got lots more coming up on toc migrants for manual labour?i on migrants for manual labour? i'm asking the archbishop i'm asking after the archbishop of canterbury is expected to challenge the government's immigration bill. we'll also be talking all things immigration after the news. first with after the news. but first with bethany . emily, thank you. good bethany. emily, thank you. good afternoon. here's your latest headunes afternoon. here's your latest headlines from the gb newsroom . headlines from the gb newsroom. at 134, opposition leaders are calling for an investigation after it emerged the home secretary tried to avoid incurring points on her driving licence for speeding last summer. the sunday times reports suella braverman asked a civil servant to organise a 1 to 1 driving awareness course instead. the shadow home secretary , yvette cooper, secretary, yvette cooper, described the allegations as shocking, saying ms braverman's role is to uphold the law and

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information— figures through a freedom of information request and points to information request and points te an— information request and points te an trereae— information request and points to an increase of— information request and points to an increase of 4000 more teatne— to an increase of 4000 more teatne twan— to an increase of 4000 more deaths than the _ to an increase of 4000 more deaths than the previous year. tetntng— deaths than the previous year. tetntng ne— deaths than the previous year. joining me new— deaths than the previous year. joining me now is— deaths than the previous year. joining me now is health and eeetat— joining me now is health and social affairs— joining me now is health and social affairs editor at the ewntaw— social affairs editor at the sunday express newspaper , lucy sunday express newspaper, lucy renneten. — sunday express newspaper, lucy johnston- twee— sunday express newspaper, lucy johnston. lucy, thank you for tetntng— johnston. lucy, thank you for tetntng ne— johnston. lucy, thank you for joining me this— johnston. lucy, thank you for joining me this afternoon. these are joining me this afternoon. these eneettng— joining me this afternoon. these are shocking figures . 4000 more are shocking figures. 4000 more teatne— are shocking figures. 4000 more teatne twan— are shocking figures. 4000 more deaths than last— are shocking figures. 4000 more deaths than last year. we've atee— deaths than last year. we've also seen excess— deaths than last year. we've also seen excess deaths, atnernatw— also seen excess deaths, abnormally high, aren't we? teee— abnormally high, aren't we? aeee tne— abnormally high, aren't we? across the nhs? not just due to wet— across the nhs? not just due to wet tattwree. — across the nhs? not just due to a&e failures. what— across the nhs? not just due to a&e failures. what did you put tnte— a&e failures. what did you put tnte tewn— a&e failures. what did you put this down to? _ a&e failures. what did you put this down to? venice this down to? well, these figures are very interesting, and there's been some speculation over a long period about how many people are dying extra deaths in a&e waits and the numbers have been put as high as about 500 a week. at one point. but the excess,— high as about 500 a week. at one point. but the excess, the- “ g“ 300 at one point. but the excess, the extra teatne— point. but the excess, the extra teatne ,— point. but the excess, the extra teatne , tne— point. but the excess, the extra deaths , the unexpected deaths deaths, the unexpected deaths tnat— deaths, the unexpected deaths tnat w-wee— deaths, the unexpected deaths that we've been— deaths, the unexpected deaths that we've been seeing post eantente— that we've been seeing post pandemic have— that we've been seeing post pandemic have been steadily accumulating.— pandemic have been steadily accumulating. and it seems to be tnat— accumulating. and it seems to be tnat tnte— accumulating. and it seems to be tnat tnte te— accumulating. and it seems to be that this is not— accumulating. and it seems to be that this is not letting up. so we've done a bit— that this is not letting up. so we've done a bit of-

we've done a bit of a calculation recently showing that just last year we had 10% more deaths than the five year average and actually we had more deaths than in the pandemic year or more extra non—covid deaths than the pandemic year of 2021. so there were 67,000 extra or wneaetatnet— so there were 67,000 extra or unexplained acted deaths last year— unexplained acted deaths last wear ant— unexplained acted deaths last wear ant neet— unexplained acted deaths last year and most of— unexplained acted deaths last year and most of those were not town.— year and most of those were not covtw. atewt— year and most of those were not covtw. atewt a— year and most of those were not covid. about a quarter of them covtw. — covid. about a quarter of them were covm. most— covid. about a quarter of them were covid. most of them weren't. and— were covid. most of them weren't. and the government has tattet— weren't. and the government has tattet .— weren't. and the government has tattet . ant— weren't. and the government has failed . and after— weren't. and the government has failed . and after repeated calls failed. and after repeated calls tren— failed. and after repeated calls tren aete— failed. and after repeated calls from various experts around the eewntrw— from various experts around the eewntrw nae— from various experts around the country has failed _ from various experts around the country has failed to launch any preter— country has failed to launch any proper investigation into why tnte— proper investigation into why we te— proper investigation into why this is happening. and as you can see from _ this is happening. and as you can see from the— this is happening. and as you can see from the figures you've got can see from the figures you've get were— can see from the figures you've get nere tetaw— can see from the figures you've got here today about a&e waits, part— got here today about a&e waits, part et— got here today about a&e waits, part et tnte— got here today about a&e waits, pan et tnte te— got here today about a&e waits, part of this is likely to be tewn— part of this is likely to be tewn te— part of this is likely to be down to the— part of this is likely to be down to the health care service ant— down to the health care service ant tne— down to the health care service ant tne teng— down to the health care service and the long waits— down to the health care service and the long waits , particularly and the long waits, particularly in and the long waits, particularly tn aet— and the long waits, particularly tn wet nwge— and the long waits, particularly in a&e huge demand on the eewtee— in a&e huge demand on the eewtee, et— in a&e huge demand on the service, of course. ' “t: ”r“ti;:i; service, of course. and there have been long calls for reform

of the nhs. in one way or another. but these excess deaths may well be covid related , may well be covid related, mightn't they, insofar as they are due to late diagnosis seas that never took place during the pandemic. because the national health service was overcome by covid cases or essentially became the national covid service for many months, i would argue. so this is a knock on from that time , is it not, lucy? from that time, is it not, lucy? well, yes. and in fact, yeah, we— well, yes. and in fact, yeah, we net— well, yes. and in fact, yeah, it's not caused— well, yes. and in fact, yeah, it's not caused by covid, but in tact— it's not caused by covid, but in taet tt-e— it's not caused by covid, but in fact it's caused— it's not caused by covid, but in fact it's caused by— it's not caused by covid, but in fact it's caused by potentially arnte. — fact it's caused by potentially arnte. we— fact it's caused by potentially arnie. we think— fact it's caused by potentially arnie. we think a— fact it's caused by potentially arnie. we think a lot of it are reeeneee te— arnie. we think a lot of it are response to covid. and interestingly,- response to covid. and interestingly, in sweden , which interestingly, in sweden, which had interestingly, in sweden, which nat a— interestingly, in sweden, which nat a nwen— interestingly, in sweden, which had a much lighter lockdown wnere— had a much lighter lockdown wnere tnew— had a much lighter lockdown where they didn't close the neattn— where they didn't close the health care _ where they didn't close the health care service and they and reente— health care service and they and eeeete wee— health care service and they and people were able— health care service and they and people were able to get treatment— people were able to get treatment and other countries wnere— treatment and other countries wnere tneee— treatment and other countries where these changes to the neattn— where these changes to the health services— where these changes to the health services weren't made , health services weren't made, tnew— health services weren't made, tnew ten-t— health services weren't made, they don't have— health services weren't made, they don't have this problem. in rag,— they don't have this problem. in rag, t— they don't have this problem. in rag, t tntnt— they don't have this problem. in fact, i think sweden has one of the fact, i think sweden has one of tne teweet— fact, i think sweden has one of the lowest number— fact, i think sweden has one of the lowest number of excess

teatne— the lowest number of excess teatne er— the lowest number of excess deaths or extra— the lowest number of excess deaths or extra deaths in europe . tnere— deaths or extra deaths in europe . tnere nae— deaths or extra deaths in europe . there has been— deaths or extra deaths in europe . there has been some analysis of . there has been some analysis et tne— . there has been some analysis of the deaths— . there has been some analysis of the deaths and— . there has been some analysis of the deaths and although we ten-t— of the deaths and although we ten-t knew— of the deaths and although we don't know what's driving the teatne— don't know what's driving the deaths themselves, why people are deaths themselves, why people teweteetng— deaths themselves, why people are developing the problems, but new— are developing the problems, but tnew eee— are developing the problems, but tnew te— are developing the problems, but tnew te te— are developing the problems, but they seem to be mostly related to they seem to be mostly related te neat— they seem to be mostly related to heart disease— they seem to be mostly related to heart disease and diabetes, wnten— to heart disease and diabetes, wnten teee— to heart disease and diabetes, which does suggest that that tate — which does suggest that that tate tetaw— which does suggest that that late delay delayed diagnosis and tetawet— late delay delayed diagnosis and delayed treatment— late delay delayed diagnosis and delayed treatment , that could be delayed treatment, that could be part— delayed treatment, that could be part et— delayed treatment, that could be part et tne— delayed treatment, that could be part of the problem . there's part of the problem. there's atee— part of the problem. there's atee energtng— part of the problem. there's also emerging and i've had a teet— also emerging and i've had a teet at— also emerging and i've had a look at some— also emerging and i've had a look at some figures recently , a look at some figures recently, a new wave of extra— look at some figures recently, a new wave of extra cancer deaths . ant — new wave of extra cancer deaths . ant tneee — new wave of extra cancer deaths . and these deaths— new wave of extra cancer deaths . and these deaths will take a teng— . and these deaths will take a teng ttne— . and these deaths will take a teng ttne er— . and these deaths will take a long time or longer time to go tnrewgn— long time or longer time to go tnrewgn tne— long time or longer time to go through the system because it take— through the system because it tatee tnere— through the system because it takes more time— through the system because it takes more time for cancers to tewetee— takes more time for cancers to tewetee ant— takes more time for cancers to develop and for— takes more time for cancers to develop and for people to sadly die develop and for people to sadly tte et— develop and for people to sadly tte et eaneer— develop and for people to sadly die of cancer .— develop and for people to sadly die of cancer. but— develop and for people to sadly die of cancer. but we're etarttng— die of cancer. but we're etantng te— die of cancer. but we're starting to see- die of cancer. but we're starting to see these grow now. ant— starting to see these grow now. ant tne— starting to see these grow now. and the frightening thing is tneee— and the frightening thing is tneee wen-t— and the frightening thing is these won't be— and the frightening thing is these won't be just deaths due to these won't be just deaths due te tetawe— these won't be just deaths due te tetawe tn— these won't be just deaths due to delays in treatment, but if tne— to delays in treatment, but if tne neattn— to delays in treatment, but if the health service isn't if tnere— the health service isn't if tnere ten-t— the health service isn't if there isn't an— the health service isn't if there isn't an urgent reform of there isn't an urgent reform of tne neattn— there isn't an urgent reform of the health service, there will be the health service, there will we wae— the health service, there will we ween— the health service, there will be wave upon wave of extra

cancer deaths— be wave upon wave of extra cancer deaths on- be wave upon wave of extra cancer deaths on top of these etner— cancer deaths on top of these etner extra— cancer deaths on top of these other extra deaths that we're atreatw— other extra deaths that we're already seeing _ other extra deaths that we're already seeing back in back last wear.— already seeing back in back last wear. cnrte— already seeing back in back last year. chris whitty_ already seeing back in back last year. chris whitty blamed the extra— year. chris whitty blamed the extra deaths— year. chris whitty blamed the extra deaths on— year. chris whitty blamed the extra deaths on the fact that tnere— extra deaths on the fact that tnere — extra deaths on the fact that there were reduced prescriptions for there were reduced prescriptions ter etattne— there were reduced prescriptions for statins during— there were reduced prescriptions for statins during the pandemic and for statins during the pandemic ant tnat-e— for statins during the pandemic ant tnat-e wnw— for statins during the pandemic and that's why there were so nanw— and that's why there were so nanw neat— and that's why there were so many heart disease deaths. but aetwattw— many heart disease deaths. but aetwattw a— many heart disease deaths. but actually a study— many heart disease deaths. but actually a study by oxford eetenttete— actually a study by oxford scientists has— actually a study by oxford scientists has found that there was no reduced— scientists has found that there was no reduced prescriptions for etattne— was no reduced prescriptions for etattne .— was no reduced prescriptions for etattne . se— was no reduced prescriptions for etattne . se tt— was no reduced prescriptions for statins . so it really does need statins. so it really does need digging— statins. so it really does need ttggtng tnre— statins. so it really does need digging into properly and we neet— digging into properly and we neet wrgent— digging into properly and we need urgent action and i'm not wnw— need urgent action and i'm not wnw tnere — need urgent action and i'm not sure why there hasn't been any to sure why there hasn't been any te tate— sure why there hasn't been any te tate . — sure why there hasn't been any te tate . tee.— sure why there hasn't been any to date . yes, it— sure why there hasn't been any to date . yes, it does.- sure why there hasn't been any to date . t/ti;5 c : c : to date. yes, it does. it does. i mean, many people will be asking exactly the same question, looking at these these the number of deaths is terrifying for people who will potentially have to use the nhs . most of us will have to for one reason or another in a life threatening stage of our life . threatening stage of our life. but i don't know if you've seen, but keir starmer has come out in the telegraph , a known for being the telegraph, a known for being a conservative publication . he's a conservative publication. he's saying clever reform can change

the trajectory of the nhs if we cut unnecessary bureaucracy and provide a clear route for innovators into the nhs, the results could be profound. this is what i would expect to hear from from a conservative prime minister. well, i mean there has teen— minister. well, i mean there has teen reerrnt— minister. well, i mean there has been reform after— it i“ well, i mean there has been reform after reform of the we— been reform after reform of the we ant— been reform after reform of the we ant t— been reform after reform of the nhs and i think— been reform after reform of the nhs and i think one of the erettene— nhs and i think one of the problems that— nhs and i think one of the problems that leaders in the nhs eenetatn— problems that leaders in the nhs complain about— problems that leaders in the nhs complain about is— problems that leaders in the nhs complain about is that no one aetwattw— complain about is that no one aetwattw gete— complain about is that no one actually gets around and lets teetere— actually gets around and lets teetere get— actually gets around and lets doctors get on— actually gets around and lets doctors get on with what they teet— doctors get on with what they teet tnew— doctors get on with what they feel they need— doctors get on with what they feel they need to— doctors get on with what they feel they need to do . there feel they need to do. there te— feel they need to do. there seems to be _ feel they need to do. there seems to be a— feel they need to do. there seems to be a lot of meddling by eettttetane— seems to be a lot of meddling by politicians who— seems to be a lot of meddling by politicians who talk— seems to be a lot of meddling by politicians who talk to the bma or politicians who talk to the bma er tatt— politicians who talk to the bma er tatt te— politicians who talk to the bma or talk to unions— politicians who talk to the bma or talk to unions and decide wnat— or talk to unions and decide wnat te— or talk to unions and decide what is best,— or talk to unions and decide what is best, but— or talk to unions and decide what is best, but actually the bma— what is best, but actually the bma te— what is best, but actually the bma te tnere— what is best, but actually the bma is there to— what is best, but actually the bma is there to look after its members. that's— bma is there to look after its members. that's its main erterttw. — members. that's its main erterttw. ant— members. that's its main priority. and reform is often twet— priority. and reform is often just tinkering— priority. and reform is often just tinkering around the edges . wnat— just tinkering around the edges . wnat neete— just tinkering around the edges . what needs to— just tinkering around the edges . what needs to happen eetenttattw— . what needs to happen potentially is- . what needs to happen potentially is it needs to it neete— potentially is it needs to it neete an— potentially is it needs to it needs an overhaul, not just a reerrnt— needs an overhaul, not just a reerrnt .— needs an overhaul, not just a reerrnt . ee— needs an overhaul, not just a reerrnt . se we— needs an overhaul, not just a reform . so we do— needs an overhaul, not just a reform . so we do need to see reform. so we do need to see eetenttat— reform. so we do need to see potential weekend work, because the potential weekend work, because tne tact— potential weekend work, because tne taet tnat— potential weekend work, because the fact that consultants are targetw—

the fact that consultants are targetw net— the fact that consultants are largely not there at the weetent,— largely not there at the weekend, bunches up the number of weekend, bunches up the number et tne— weekend, bunches up the number et tne rtew— weekend, bunches up the number et tne ttew wew— weekend, bunches up the number of the flow, you know, there's a tttttewtt— of the flow, you know, there's a difficult flow _ of the flow, you know, there's a difficult flow during the week . difficult flow during the week. we difficult flow during the week. we te — difficult flow during the week. we te nave— difficult flow during the week. we te wave a— difficult flow during the week. we do have a problem with social tnat— we do have a problem with social tnat te— we do have a problem with social care that is not— we do have a problem with social care that is not given as much nenew— care that is not given as much nenew ae— care that is not given as much nenew ae tne— care that is not given as much money as the nhs— care that is not given as much money as the nhs and so people are money as the nhs and so people net— money as the nhs and so people are not looked— money as the nhs and so people are not looked after— money as the nhs and so people are not looked after at home and tnew— are not looked after at home and tnew can-t— are not looked after at home and tnew ean-t te— are not looked after at home and they can't be discharged from neeettat— they can't be discharged from neeettat ae— they can't be discharged from neeettat ae a— they can't be discharged from hospital as a result of that. ant— hospital as a result of that. and because— hospital as a result of that. and because there's not enough tn eeeete-e— and because there's not enough care in people's homes , they end care in people's homes, they end up care in people's homes, they end we tn— care in people's homes, they end we tn neeettat.— care in people's homes, they end up in hospital. so— care in people's homes, they end up in hospital. so that's an wnten— up in hospital. so that's an area which is— up in hospital. so that's an area which is often ignored . and area which is often ignored. and anetner— area which is often ignored. and anetner area— area which is often ignored. and another area which— area which is often ignored. and another area which well, lucy , i another area which well, lucy, i wew tatt— another area which well, lucy, i mean, you talk about it's an tte— mean, you talk about it's an tt-e — mean, you talk about it's an area, it's an. sorry to interrupt, but it's an area that's been so, so long ignored, but something that comes up time and time and time again. and i fear that whatever government we have , it will be tinkering have, it will be tinkering around the edges is a bit more money here and there . a few money here and there. a few little changes here. all pharmacists can give you antibiotics now and blah blah blah blah, blah. and we remain with the same, in my opinion , an with the same, in my opinion, an failed system of health care. but there you go. thank you very much indeed. lucy johnston there. health and social affairs

editor at the sunday express, taking of those taking us through some of those shocking labour shocking statistics that labour have dug up. 23,000 deaths in a&e last year alone, up on the previous year quite significantly. so moving on, the archbishop of canterbury will take a lead on opposing the government's illegal migration bill this week. he's been very vocal bill this week. he's been very vocal, hasn't he, when it's scrutinised by the house of lords, the plans have been fiercely criticised. justin welby said. previously he called the bill morally unacceptable and politically impractical . all and politically impractical. all this is ahead of official figures to be released on thursday. this thursday, they're expected to show net migration has reached at least 700,000, could be up to a million, according to some analysis . my according to some analysis. my question today is should we depend on immigrants for manual labour? are brits too lazy to work? i think there's some evidence to show that they might be. some of them at least. so i am joined by immigration consultant dean morgan and broadcast writer and journalist mike here with me in the mike parry. here with me in the studio . dean, we look at the

studio. dean, we look at the numbers of immigrants that we're taking into the country , taking into the country, inviting into the country, giving work visas to and their dependents and the argument put forward by our government and also from the opposition party is that we need these people for the economy to do the jobs. brits won't do. but then i look at the number of people on out of work benefits , the number of of work benefits, the number of people unemployed in this country. and i think, well , country. and i think, well, shouldn't we be focusing on getting those people into work? what do you think ? i totally what do you think? i totally agree with you. _ what do you think? i totally agree with you. i— what do you think? i totally agree with you. i think- t:tir “

brexit, actually very brexit, is actually very impressive . my concern impressive. my concern is more the management and implementation fantastic implementation of a fantastic plan. plan is you only come plan. the plan is you only come here if you can satisfy a skill shortage or you pay an absolute fortune a student, fortune and come as a student, then a graduate try then get a graduate visa and try and shortage . or and fill a skill shortage. or you someone. let's put it you marry someone. let's put it bluntly, you know, people, it's a globalised world. meet a globalised world. people meet people world people from all over the world via media. people are via social media. people are getting they're getting married, but they're like students, 20, but like like 5% students, 20, but like 75% will be skilled worker. now you could argue that could be limits here, but for 16 years i've seen the government lurch from a completely open border to, not it's too close to, you know, not it's too close to, you know, not it's too close to open. we're to it's too open. and we're competing in a multi—polar world now, like our gdp is falling. our cost of living is going through the roof. people are having babies . and having less babies. and in the decades come, they're decades to come, they're going to because they to have even less because they won't afford it. so won't be able to afford it. so uk plc does need the best and brightest. be a brightest. we should be on a brain drain to encourage brain drain trying to encourage people and keeping our best and brightest just try and brightest here just to try and keep ship from sinking any keep the ship from sinking any further than it already is. yeah, i mean, i think

yeah, i mean, mike, i think get— yeah, i mean, mike, i think get a— yeah, i mean, mike, i think we've got a bit— yeah, i mean, mike, i think we've got a bit of a problem. i tntnt— we've got a bit of a problem. i think-government- we've got a bit of a problem. i think government is lazy and think our government is lazy and it's think our government is lazy and we eaete— think our government is lazy and we ter— think our government is lazy and it's easier for them— think our government is lazy and it's easier for them to open the teete— it's easier for them to open the teere ant— it's easier for them to open the doors and fill— it's easier for them to open the doors and fill these jobs. it's eaete. tte— doors and fill these jobs. it's easier. it's quicker. doors and fill these jobs. it's easier . it's quicker. / easier. it's quicker. yeah, i ttnt— easier. it's quicker. yeah, i ttnt et— easier. it's quicker. yeah, i kind of agree with that, you know? suella braverman is the home secretary and she's fighting what seems to be a lone battle to try and convince people. we've got to bring in, you know, new restrictions on the amount of people who come here. other government here. but every other government department from department that benefits from it. i mean. you it. if you see what i mean. you know, drives down the of know, it drives down the cost of labour and that thing. labour and that sort of thing. small make you worry small things make you worry about the way that there's a relationship between the number of people in this country not working and the number of people coming into this country , which coming into this country, which you've already indicated could be up to a million. that could be up to a million. that could be the announcement- c. cc “tit“ that could be the announcement by the ntttte— be the announcement by the ntttte et— be the announcement by the middle of the— be the announcement by the middle of the week coming to the etwtte— middle of the week coming to the etwtte tetaw— middle of the week coming to the studio today on— middle of the week coming to the studio today on the— middle of the week coming to the studio today on the london tube, tnere-e— studio today on the london tube, tnere-e an— studio today on the london tube, there's an announcement saying this there's an announcement saying we twee— there's an announcement saying we twte wttt— there's an announcement saying this tube will not— there's an announcement saying this tube will not stop at tempte— this tube will not stop at temple station to unavailability of temple station to unavailability et etatt— temple station to unavailability et etatt . — temple station to unavailability of staff. well,— temple station to unavailability of staff . titticc ”t“tii; is i? of staff. well, there's 5.2 million people in this country

who are currently not economically active. is the problem that— economically active. is the problem that we- i tig5ccg 5ti is the problem that we need migrants wne— problem that we need migrants wne are— problem that we need migrants wne getng— problem that we need migrants wne getng te— problem that we need migrants who are going to come here, work tneee— who are going to come here, work tneee tewe.— who are going to come here, work tneee tete. tne— who are going to come here, work these jobs. the salaries aren't ntgn— these jobs. the salaries aren't ntgn enewgn— these jobs. the salaries aren't high enough for— these jobs. the salaries aren't high enough for brits who who wewtt— high enough for brits who who would rather— high enough for brits who who would rather live— high enough for brits who who would rather live on, on, on on tenettte— would rather live on, on, on on tenettte ,— would rather live on, on, on on tenettte , en— would rather live on, on, on on benefits , on welfare, on benefits, on welfare, on tenettte— benefits, on welfare, on tenettte. — benefits, on welfare, on benefits. i— benefits, on welfare, on benefits. “ benefits, on welfare, on- benefits. i mean, look , work benefits. i mean, look, work from home came along and i'm afraid that stuck with us now that's now a national trend, working from home, working from home that your activity home means that your activity level is less than if you went out to work every day. and that's now become imbued in people's heads . i come from people's heads. i come from stockbroker— people's heads. i come from stockbroker-surrey- i come from stockbroker surrey and stockbroker belt surrey and get— stockbroker belt surrey and get a— stockbroker belt surrey and we've got a massive influx of reente— we've got a massive influx of eeeete tnere— we've got a massive influx of people there from hong kong. okay— people there from hong kong. etaw-tt-e— people there from hong kong. okay it's fantastic to see okay and it's fantastic to see tnen — okay and it's fantastic to see tnen atewt. — okay and it's fantastic to see them about. and— okay and it's fantastic to see them about. and as a result, new cntneee— them about. and as a result, new chinese supermarket markets are eeentng— chinese supermarket markets are eeentng we— chinese supermarket markets are eeentng we ew— chinese supermarket markets are opening up new businesses are eeentng— opening up new businesses are eeentng we— opening up new businesses are eeentng we tnetr— opening up new businesses are opening up their industrial eeeete— opening up their industrial eeeete. nwt— opening up their industrial people. but what's not happening at tne— people. but what's not happening at tne eae— people. but what's not happening at the same time— people. but what's not happening at the same time as these people tren— at the same time as these people tren weng— at the same time as these people tren weng teng— at the same time as these people from hong kong are— at the same time as these people from hong kong are contributing to from hong kong are contributing te tne— from hong kong are contributing te tne teeat— from hong kong are contributing to the local economy is no new. seneete— to the local economy is no new. seneete ar— to the local economy is no new. schools are being— to the local economy is no new. schools are being built,- to the local economy is no new. schools are being built, no- to the local economy is no new. schools are being built, no new hospitals are being built. you

know, the resources “g cc you know, the resources you're going to know, the resources you're going te neet— know, the resources you're going te neet te— know, the resources you're going te neet te eeee— know, the resources you're going to need to cope with an eaeteetwe— to need to cope with an explosive new- to need to cope with an explosive new number of people eentng— explosive new number of people eentng te— explosive new number of people eentng te tnte— explosive new number of people coming to this country simply ten-t— coming to this country simply ten-t tn— coming to this country simply ten-t tn etaee— coming to this country simply isn't in place. it's— coming to this country simply isn't in place. it's not a tetnet— isn't in place. it's not a tetnet we.— isn't in place. it's not a joined up. you- isn't in place. it's not a joined up. you know , policy from joined up. you know, policy from gewernnent— joined up. you know, policy from gewernnent te— joined up. you know, policy from government to say,— joined up. you know, policy from government to say, yes , people government to say, yes, people can come in, they— government to say, yes, people can come in, they can contribute to can come in, they can contribute te tne— can come in, they can contribute te tne eenernw— can come in, they can contribute to the economy, but— can come in, they can contribute to the economy, but we don't nave— to the economy, but we don't nave tne— to the economy, but we don't have the resources then to tenettt. — have the resources then to benefit. they're- have the resources then to benefit. “tig ”ti: “t; “tiiti; benefit. they're being here. and i benefit. they're being here. ant t tntnt— benefit. they're being here. and i think that's— benefit. they're being here. and i think that's the - benefit. “tig ”ti: “t; “tiiti; and i think that's the problem, tnewgn— and i think that's the problem, tnewgn ,— and i think that's the problem, tnewgn , ten-t— and i think that's the problem, though , isn't it?— and i think that's the problem, though , isn't it? because though, isn't it? because ertwate— though, isn't it? because private companies, let's say supermarkets, _ private companies, let's say supermarkets, they'll never have a eretten — supermarkets, they'll never have a problem supplying a massive , a problem supplying a massive, massive population, of course. nwt— massive population, of course. nwt tne— massive population, of course. but the government is much tee— but the government is much tee wnen— but the government is much slower when it— but the government is much slower when it comes to the infrastructure _ slower when it comes to the infrastructure needed. infrastructure that's needed. ant— infrastructure that's needed. ant t— infrastructure that's needed. ant t ten-t— infrastructure that's needed. and i don't they've been and i don't believe they've been neneet— and i don't believe they've been neneet-we— and i don't believe they've been honest-us because - and i don't believe they've been honest us because i think honest with us because i think tnere-e— honest with us because i think tnere-e gwtte— honest with us because i think tnere-e gwtte a— honest with us because i think there's quite a lot— honest with us because i think there's quite a lot of gaslighting. people are told, on,— gaslighting. people are told, on, tnere-e— gaslighting. people are told, oh, there's no— gaslighting. people are told, oh, there's no way that immigration— oh, there's no way that immigration has anything to do wttn— immigration has anything to do wttn-newetng— immigration has anything to do with housing crisis. with the housing crisis. oh, tnere-e— with the housing crisis. oh, tneee-nae- with the housing crisis. oh,- there's-has anything there's no way it has anything to there's no way it has anything telwttn— there's no way it has anything telwttn tne— there's no way it has anything to with the congestion or you to do with the congestion or you tnew,— to do with the congestion or you knew tne— to do with the congestion or you knew tne tact— to do with the congestion or you know, the lack of— to do with the congestion or you know, the lack of gp appointments . and yes, it may appointments. and yes, it may not appointments. and yes, it may net te— appointments. and yes, it may net tte-eete— appointments. and yes, it may not be sole reason, but it's not be the sole reason, but it's eertatntw— not be the sole reason, but it's eertatntw te— not be the sole reason, but it's certainly is. it's— not be the sole reason, but it's certainly is. it's simple supply ant— certainly is. it's simple supply ant tenant— certainly is. it's simple supply ant tenant ,— certainly is. it's simple supply and demand , is— certainly is. it's simple supply and demand , is it not, dean? and demand, is it not, dean? i , tt— and demand, is it not, dean? i , tt te. — and demand, is it not, dean? i , tt te. r— and demand, is it not, dean? i mean , it is. i mean,- and demand, is it not, dean? i mean , it is. mean, it is. i mean, that's the best phrase ever gaslighting. i think that sums it up. i mean,

we had it with brexit. we're going to pull the drawbridge up. that's migration. that's an end to migration. we'll control . no one we'll have total control. no one else will come here and we'll just semi just remain in a semi homogeneous nation . that was homogeneous nation. that was a lie. i mean, that always has to be. in a globalised be. you're in a globalised world. we're competing. we world. we're all competing. we are island, however, are a tiny island, however, punched above our weight . i punched above our weight. i don't look, our don't know. but look, our standard of living is falling. we do all these things. and we do need all these things. and i know, the problem is i think you know, the problem is you're not allowed to be tough and to people, mean get up and say to people, mean get up at five morning. i go out at five every morning. i go out and do 12 k's. run my and do 12 k's. i run my business. it's about yeah, business. it's not about yeah, well, know, walking. sorry well, you know, walking. sorry not running can't for life, not running can't run for life, but, know, walking. but the but, you know, walking. but the point want to get do point is i don't want to get do that it's raining, when that when it's raining, when it's want to have it's cold. i don't want to have to all taxes have to pay all the taxes and have the business and the stress of a business and everything yeah, i do. and everything else. yeah, i do. and i anything i don't ask anything from anyone. can't say to anyone. so why can't i say to people, if you're ill, people, look, if you're ill, you're society has an you're disabled. society has an obugafion you're disabled. society has an obligation to care for you. that's the of civilisation that's the kind of civilisation i live in. having said i want to live in. having said that , you know, everybody else that, you know, everybody else is trying to work is out there trying to work hard. there's 5 million hard. so if there's 5 million people could be working and

people that could be working and on, is problem that on, that is a problem that should threat. i mean, should be a threat. i mean, sorry, just this is the sorry, just sorry. this is the last word . unfortunately, last word. unfortunately, we haven't any this haven't got time for any of this . something i was . but mike, just something i was reading today, 18% of working age people, 18 one, 8% of working age people in manchester care are on out of work benefits . 40,000 jobs are being advertised— . 40,000 jobs are being advertised in— 40,000 jobs are being advertised in manchester, which can-t— advertised in manchester, which ean-t te— advertised in manchester, which can't be filled— advertised in manchester, which can't be filled .— advertised in manchester, which can't be filled . the education can't be filled. the education eeeter— can't be filled. the education eeeter tw— can't be filled. the education eeete tw tne— can't be filled. the education sector, by the way, my massively erettte— sector, by the way, my massively erettte tren — sector, by the way, my massively profits from people _ sector, by the way, my massively profits from people coming to tnte— profits from people coming to we eewntrw. — profits from people coming to this country. we've seen it in tne— this country. we've seen it in tne eaeere— this country. we've seen it in the papers this— this country. we've seen it in the papers this morning. etwtente— the papers this morning. students come, but they bring a lot students come, but they bring a tet et— students come, but they bring a tet et tnetr— students come, but they bring a lot of their family— students come, but they bring a lot of their family with them. i twe— lot of their family with them. i ttwe en— lot of their family with them. i ttwe en tne— lot of their family with them. i live on the south— lot of their family with them. i live on the south coast and it's ene-ttggeet— live on the south coast and it's one biggest industries one of the biggest industries going— one of the biggest industries- going—accommodation going for student accommodation , nwge— going for student accommodation , nwge tewer— going for student accommodation , huge tower blocks all over the etaee. — , huge tower blocks all over the etaee. we— , huge tower blocks all over the etaee. we ar— , huge tower blocks all over the place. we are not— , huge tower blocks all over the place. git “g , huge tower blocks all over the place. gtit “g place. we are not going to try and people coming here and deter people coming here when that amount of when they bring that amount of money into the country. it is literally there literally billions. so there really is, literally billions. so there reattw te, wew— literally billions. so there really is, you know,- literally billions. so there really is, you know, a- c cc so there really is, you know, a cross et— really is, you know, a cross over of benefits- really is, you know, a cross over of benefits and reasons why we nave— over of benefits and reasons why we nave te— over of benefits and reasons why we have to control— over of benefits and reasons why we have to control all immigration. “ we have to control all- immigration. i mean, dean, we have to control all— immigration. i mean, dean, just very quickly on that dependence issue, this has been a huge number in i didn't realise just

how many dependents were coming in on worker visas and student visas. i can't for the life of me understand why we would do that. understand it's nice that. i understand it's nice for people be bring their people to be able to bring their family, nhs school, family, but that's nhs school, places, everything else. it's just unsustainable on a in a small country like ours. but i don't see why students,- don't see why students, if wew-re— don't see why students, if wewre eentng— don't see why students, if you're coming here for only a ttntte— you're coming here for only a ttntte eertet— you're coming here for only a finite period to— you're coming here for only a finite period to study, should be finite period to study, should we trtngtng— finite period to study, should be bringing dependents anyway, but be bringing dependents anyway, twt net— be bringing dependents anyway, twt net eert— be bringing dependents anyway, but not sort of— be bringing dependents anyway, but not sort of the financial ttnee. — but not sort of the financial ttnee. t— but not sort of the financial times. i mean— but not sort of the financial times. i mean ,— but not sort of the financial times. i mean , i've never seen times. i mean, i've never seen tnat— times. i mean, i've never seen tnat nwen— times. i mean, i've never seen tnat nwen green— times. i mean, i've never seen that much green in— times. i mean, i've never seen that much green in bar chart. that much green in a bar chart. so, wew— that much green in a bar chart. se, wew tnew,— that much green in a bar chart. so, you know, there is a problem tnere.— so, you know, there is a problem tnere. ant— so, you know, there is a problem there. and again,— so, you know, there is a problem there. and again, no one's tatttng— there. and again, no one's tatttng-tt- there. and again, no one's tatttng-tt tn- there. and again, no one's talking it in government, talking about it in government, but talking about it in government, twt—a— talking about it in government, twt—a nwge- but yeah, that is a huge eretten. — but yeah, that is a huge problem. they shouldn't be werttng—netl problem. they shouldn't be- working_not going working cause you're not going to working cause you're not going te—wert.- working cause you're not going te—wert. tet-el to come here and work. let's be reattette— to come here and work. let's be realistic._family. realistic. without your family wttn— realistic. without your familyi wttn—exeeet with you and wouldn't expect anwene—nw- with you and wouldn't expect. anyone _ but students anyone to do that. but students r-veahr_ anyone to do that. but students r-veahr tneee- anyone to do that. but students , yeah, those figures , i mean, yeah, those figures for , i mean, yeah, those figures ten—neet- , i mean, yeah, those figures tet—neet te- , i mean, yeah, those figures- for_need to.looked for dependents need to be looked at_to!— for dependents need to be looked at-tw tne— for dependents need to be looked at-tw tne wene- for dependents need to be looked at by the home office. at urgently by the home office. wean.— at urgently by the home office. yeah, _workers, _ at urgently by the home office. yeah,-workers, if- at urgently by the home office. yeah,-workers, if it's- at urgently by the home office. yeah,-workers, if it's for. yeah, maybe workers, if it's for if it's for, know, a job if it's for, you know, a job that need someone do. an that we need someone to do. an acute shortage somewhere, then yes, having your wife or yes, i think having your wife or partner but get two partner or. but they get two weare— partner or. but they get two weare ten-t— partner or. but they get two years don't - after- but they get two years don't after they years don't they, after they ttnten— years don't they, after they finish-degree. - years don't they, after they finish - degree. -

years don't they, after they finish degree. �*ftt�*ti; finish their degree. we just neet— finish their degree. we just need sensible. i think need to be sensible. and i think at moment we haven't been. at the moment we haven't been. but thank you very much both but thank you very much for both of your insight there. immigration consultant dean morgan in the morgan and mike parry in the studio broadcaster studio with me, broadcaster and journalist studio with me, broadcaster and journa watching listening you're watching and listening to gb me, emily gb news sunday with me, emily carver. up the carver. lots coming up in the next a next hour. is suella braverman a liability ? rishi sunak has liability? rishi sunak has refused to back the home secretary publicly after she asked to help asked civil servants to help with speeding fine . and what with a speeding fine. and what next for phil ? with a speeding fine. and what next for phil? we'll with a speeding fine. and what next for phil ? we'll have the next for phil? we'll have the latest from the fallout following philip's schofield's departure the itv's this departure from the itv's this morning show. and finally , morning show. and finally, should we be concerned? the government says they're increasing looking to increasing looking into how to regulate rise of artificial regulate the rise of artificial intelligence, how? i'm quite intelligence, but how? i'm quite worried about this myself. what do you think? let me know .

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opposition leaders are calling for an investigation after it emerged the home secretary tried to avoid incurring points on her driving licence for speeding last summer. the sunday times reports suella braverman asked a civil servant to organise a 1 to 1 driving awareness course instead. shadow home secretary yvette cooper described the allegations as shocking, saying ms braverman's role is to uphold the law , and yet she abused her the law, and yet she abused her position to get around it. when asked about the claims, the prime minister declined to publicly defend her. i don't know the full details- i 3: i don't know the full details of what nae— know the full details of what nae naeeenet,— know the full details of what has happened, nor have i spoken to has happened, nor have i spoken te tne— has happened, nor have i spoken te tne nene— has happened, nor have i spoken to the home secretary. i think you— to the home secretary. i think wew ean— to the home secretary. i think you can see firsthand what i've teen— you can see firsthand what i've teen tetng— you can see firsthand what i've been doing over— you can see firsthand what i've been doing over the last day or so, been doing over the last day or trwt— been doing over the last day or twt t— been doing over the last day or so, but i understand that she's exereeeet— so, but i understand that she's expressed regret— so, but i understand that she's expressed regret for speeding, aeeeetet— expressed regret for speeding, accepted penalty and paid accepted the penalty and paid the accepted the penalty and paid tne ttne— accepted the penalty and paid tne ttne . — accepted the penalty and paid tne ttne . on— accepted the penalty and paid the fine . on the— accepted the penalty and paid the fine . cit“ �*" t:r5r accepted the penalty and paid the fine . cit“ �*" t:5r the fine. on the final day of the fine. on the final day of the g7 summit in japan, world leaders have set out their plans to tackle aggression from china. the prime minister, rishi sunak, said beijing poses the biggest challenge to global security,

being the only country with both the means and intent to reshape the means and intent to reshape the world order. us president joe biden says there's complete resolve and unity within the g7 to work together to firstly recognise china as a threat , but recognise china as a threat, but also to reduce the risk to international security . we're international security. we're not looking to i i we're not looking to decouple from cntna. — not looking to decouple from cntna. wette— not looking to decouple from china. we're looking to de—risk atte— china. we're looking to de—risk attc ant— china. we're looking to de—risk arc and diversify— china. we're looking to de—risk arc and diversify our relationship- arc and diversify our relationship with china. that means taking— relationship with china. that means taking steps to diversify our means taking steps to diversify eweetw— means taking steps to diversify our supply chains— means taking steps to diversify our supply chains and we're not. so our supply chains and we're not. se wette— our supply chains and we're not. se net— our supply chains and we're not. so we're not dependent on any eewntrw— so we're not dependent on any eewntrw ter— so we're not dependent on any one country for necessary eretwete. — one country for necessary eretwete. tt— one country for necessary products. it means resisting economic coercion together and eewntertng— economic coercion together and countering harmful practises tnat— countering harmful practises tnat nwrt— countering harmful practises that hurt our— countering harmful practises that hurt our workers . it means that hurt our workers. it means ereteettng— that hurt our workers. it means ereteettng a— that hurt our workers. it means protecting a narrow set of atwaneet— protecting a narrow set of advanced technologies critical for advanced technologies critical ter ew— advanced technologies critical for our national— advanced technologies critical for our national security . ' “t: for our national security. and tne— for our national security. and the ereettent— for our national security. and the president of— for our national security. and the president of ukraine has addressed world leaders at the g7 summit, saying he's confident kiev's peace formula has the potential to prevent future wars. he's thanked western allies for their ongoing support

, including receiving american made f—16 fighter jets and for the training of ukrainian pilots . vladimir zelenskyy has dismissed claims the russian mercenary wagner group have captured the eastern ukrainian city of bakhmut. when asked if the city had fallen, he said, i think not. but he did admit that there's nothing left there. i cannot share with you the taetteat— cannot share with you the tactical views— cannot share with you the tactical views of our military, of tactical views of our military, et ew— tactical views of our military, of our warriors— tactical views of our military, of our warriors .— tactical views of our military, of our warriors. but as of tetaw— of our warriors. but as of todayr we— of our warriors. but as of todayr we can— of our warriors. but as of today, we can see that the eewntrw— today, we can see that the country which _ today, we can see that the country which does not times is ttgger— country which does not times is ttgger tnan— country which does not times is ttgger tnan we— country which does not times is bigger than we are, cannot eeewew— bigger than we are, cannot eeewew we— bigger than we are, cannot occupy us, cannot win in this wew— occupy us, cannot win in this war. now our people are accomplished- war. now our people are accomplished a very important tnew— accomplished a very important mission. they are— accomplished a very important mission. they are now in bakhmut . i mission. they are now in bakhmut . r wu— mission. they are now in bakhmut . t wttt net— mission. they are now in bakhmut . i will not share— mission. they are now in bakhmut . i will not share where exactly , trwt— . i will not share where exactly , twt tt— . i will not share where exactly , but it witnesses— . i will not share where exactly , but it witnesses that bakhmut is , but it witnesses that bakhmut te net— , but it witnesses that bakhmut is not occupied— , but it witnesses that bakhmut is not occupied by— , but it witnesses that bakhmut is not occupied by russian federation. _ is not occupied by russian federation. as— is not occupied by russian federation. as of today , there federation. as of today, there are federation. as of today, there ne 2— federation. as of today, there ne 2 er e— federation. as of today, there are no 2 or 3 interpretations of tneee— are no 2 or 3 interpretations of tneee wette— are no 2 or 3 interpretations of tneee werte .— are no 2 or 3 interpretations of those words . in— are no 2 or 3 interpretations of those words . in other news, the those words. in other news, the tnwtrennent— those words. in other news, the environment secretary says eeraeetng— environment secretary says eeraeetng tw— environment secretary says scrapping eu laws would boost the scrapping eu laws would boost tne utte— scrapping eu laws would boost the uk's domestic wine industry

- by— the uk's domestic wine industry . nw etee— the uk's domestic wine industry . by £180 million. _ the uk's domestic wine industry . by £180 million. ' . by £180 million. a number of brussels regulations that were retained after brexit will be dropped as part of the retained eu law bill including some that impact the wine sector. therese coffey says it will reduce unnecessary red tape, allowing the industry to thrive. there are about 400 pages- the industry to thrive. there are about 400 pages of- are about 400 pages of regulations— are about 400 pages of regulations handling wine. it's teeentng— regulations handling wine. it's teeentng a— regulations handling wine. it's becoming a thriving industry in this becoming a thriving industry in we eewntrw— becoming a thriving industry in this country. english sparkling wtne— this country. english sparkling wine particularly. indeed. and et— wine particularly. indeed. and et tne— wine particularly. indeed. and one of the things— wine particularly. indeed. and one of the things that we're tetng— one of the things that we're tetng te— one of the things that we're doing is simplifying all of rear,— doing is simplifying all of reg, getttng— doing is simplifying all of that, getting of some of the that, getting rid of some of the unnecessary bureaucracy which we tettewe— unnecessary bureaucracy which we tettewe eewtt— unnecessary bureaucracy which we believe could save— unnecessary bureaucracy which we believe could save to £0.50 believe could save up to £0.50 off believe could save up to £0.50 ettltettte— believe could save up to £0.50 ettltettte et— believe could save up to £0.50 offlbottle of fizz.— believe could save up to £0.50 off bottle of fizz. so that's off a bottle of fizz. so that's geet— off a bottle of fizz. so that's geet ee— off a bottle of fizz. so that's good news for— off a bottle of fizz. so that's good news for consumers. but tte— good news for consumers. but ttte a— good news for consumers. but ttte a tet— good news for consumers. but ttte a tet et— good news for consumers. but it's a lot of this— good news for consumers. but it's a lot of this is— good news for consumers. but it's a lot of this is really atewt— it's a lot of this is really about deregulating and making ee-we— about deregulating and making sure-we still— about deregulating and making sure we still have good sure that we still have good gwatttw— sure that we still have good quality can quality products that people can enjoy— quality products that people can entew-eewntrw— quality products that people can entew-eewntrw. - quality products that people can enjoy country . ' “t: quality products that people can enjoy country . ' enjoy in this country. and the tatewr— enjoy in this country. and the labour leader is expected to warn the nhs is not sustainable unless serious and long term reforms are made. sir keir starmer will make a speech in the east of england tomorrow to set out fundamental changes, extra investment and performance

targets . the shadow health targets. the shadow health secretary, wes streeting , has secretary, wes streeting, has previously called government plans to use private sector capacity a short term fix . capacity a short term fix. you're up to date on gb news. now it's back to . now it's back to. emily right? so should the prime minister sack her or back her a number 10 spokeswoman has said that of course, the prime minister has full confidence in suella. bravo de—man. the prime minister was, though, pressed about the home secretary in a press conference at the g7 summit in japan after she reportedly asked home office officials to organise a 1 to 1 driving awareness course instead of a public one and avoid incurring points in a fine . incurring points in a fine. after she was caught speeding last summer. our rishi sunak says hasn't spoken to suella says he hasn't spoken to suella braverman but understood adds that expressed regret at that she's expressed regret at labour and the liberal democrats

are calling for an inquiry into the whole matter. so joining me now from bravermans constituency in fareham is our gb news political reporter catherine forster . catherine are there any forster. catherine are there any updates on this developing story ? well, people i've spoken to were— ? well, people i've spoken to were tn— ? well, people i've spoken to here in fareham— ? well, people i've spoken to here in fareham in— 7’ well, people i've spoken to here in fareham in suella bravermans constituency , a bit bravermans constituency, a bit of bravermans constituency, a bit et a— bravermans constituency, a bit et a ntnet— bravermans constituency, a bit of a mixed reaction . basically, of a mixed reaction. basically, eeeete— of a mixed reaction. basically, some people saying , well, it some people saying, well, it teeentt— some people saying, well, it doesn't look— some people saying, well, it doesn't look good, does it? it teeentt— doesn't look good, does it? it doesn't smell— doesn't look good, does it? it doesn't smell quite right neaee— doesn't smell quite right because she— doesn't smell quite right because she seems to be eaeeettng— because she seems to be expecting different rules to apply— expecting different rules to apply to_ expecting different rules to aeetw te nen— expecting different rules to apply to herr to_ expecting different rules to apply to her, to everybody else . ant— apply to her, to everybody else . ant et— apply to her, to everybody else . and of course— apply to her, to everybody else . and of course the government's tn ter— . and of course the government's tn ter a— . and of course the government's come in for a lot— . and of course the government's come in for a lot of— . and of course the government's come in for a lot of criticism on come in for a lot of criticism en reg,— come in for a lot of criticism on that, haven't— come in for a lot of criticism on that, haven't they? you know, wanwgate— on that, haven't they? you know, wanwgate ,— on that, haven't they? you know, over partygate , etcetera. and over partygate, etcetera. and twent— over partygate, etcetera. and tttent swnat— over partygate, etcetera. and rishi sunak promised eight gewernnent— rishi sunak promised eight government of— rishi sunak promised eight government of accountancy , government of accountancy, traneearenew— government of accountancy, transparency and integrity . so transparency and integrity. so we— transparency and integrity. so we te— transparency and integrity. so this is difficult.— transparency and integrity. so this is difficult. but the next eereen— this is difficult. but the next eereen t— this is difficult. but the next eereen t eeete— this is difficult. but the next person i spoke to saying, oh, i ten-t— person i spoke to saying, oh, i ten-t eee— person i spoke to saying, oh, i don't see what— person i spoke to saying, oh, i don't see what all— person i spoke to saying, oh, i don't see what all the fuss is atewt. — don't see what all the fuss is atewt. tew— don't see what all the fuss is about. you know,— don't see what all the fuss is about. you know, this is just erettw— about. you know, this is just erettw nwen— about. you know, this is just erettw nwen a— about. you know, this is just pretty much a witch hunt. so a reat— pretty much a witch hunt. so a neat wartetw— pretty much a witch hunt. so a real variety of— pretty much a witch hunt. so a real variety of opinions. but eertatntw,— real variety of opinions. but certainly, although the weather is certainly, although the weather te—tnte- certainly, although the weather te—tnte te- certainly, although the weather te—tnte te net| is very lovely here, this is not a great— is very lovely here, this is not a great-ter— is very lovely here, this is not

a great-for-home- a great day for the home seeretarw— a great day for the home secretary now,- a great day for the home secretary now, of course , she secretary now, of course, she tn— secretary now, of course, she was in trouble— secretary now, of course, she was in trouble last year. secretary now, of course, she was in trouble last year . she was in trouble last year. she tereet— was in trouble last year. she was forced to _ was in trouble last year. she was forced to stand down under liz was forced to stand down under ttz trwee— was forced to stand down under liz truss, having— was forced to stand down under liz truss, having sent a gewernnent— liz truss, having sent a government business email to eenetetw— government business email to eenetetw wetng— government business email to somebody using her personal enatt— somebody using her personal enatt ,— somebody using her personal email , which— somebody using her personal email, which was a breach of the ntntetertat— email, which was a breach of the ministerial code. _ email, which was a breach of the ministerial code. she stood down wnter— ministerial code. she stood down wnter tw— ministerial code. she stood down under liz truss. _ ministerial code. she stood down under liz truss. but— ministerial code. she stood down under liz truss. but five days tater— under liz truss. but five days tater ene— under liz truss. but five days later she was— under liz truss. but five days later she was brought back as nene— later she was brought back as home secretary— later she was brought back as home secretary under rishi sunak or home secretary under rishi sunak er tttent — home secretary under rishi sunak er tttent swnat— home secretary under rishi sunak or rishi sunak of— home secretary under rishi sunak or rishi sunak of course, at the g7 conference— or rishi sunak of course, at the g7 conference in— or rishi sunak of course, at the g7 conference in hiroshima. tet-e— g7 conference in hiroshima. tet-e tate— g7 conference in hiroshima. tet-e take a— g7 conference in hiroshima. let's take a look- g7 conference in hiroshima. let's take a look at what he had to let's take a look at what he had te eaw— let's take a look at what he had te eaw a— let's take a look at what he had te eaw a ttttte— let's take a look at what he had to say a little bit— let's take a look at what he had to say a little bit earlier. i ten-t— to say a little bit earlier. i ten-t tnew— to say a little bit earlier. i don't know the— to say a little bit earlier. i don't know the full- to say a little bit earlier. i don't know the full details of what has happened, nor have i spoken to the home secretary. i think you can see first hand what i've been doing over the last day so, but i understand last day or so, but i understand that she's expressed regret for speeding the penalty speeding, accepted the penalty and paid the fine . so the prime and paid the fine. so the prime ntnteter— and paid the fine. so the prime minister really— and paid the fine. so the prime minister really trying— and paid the fine. so the prime minister really trying to- 5“t: t: �*" so the prime minister really trying to say as ttttte— minister really trying to say as ttttte ae— minister really trying to say as little as possible— minister really trying to say as little as possible about this. wet— little as possible about this. wet eawtng— little as possible about this. not saying that— little as possible about this. not saying that he had confidence— not saying that he had confidence in- not saying that he had confidence in her, but not eawtng— confidence in her, but not eawtng ettner— confidence in her, but not saying either that any action getng— saying either that any action getng te— saying either that any action was going to be— saying either that any action was going to be taken . and of was going to be taken. and of tte— was going to be taken. and of course, it's difficult, isn't tte— course, it's difficult, isn't tte ttentw— course, it's difficult, isn't it? plenty of— course, it's difficult, isn't it? plenty of people get

eeeettng— it? plenty of people get speeding fines. but the issue is tnat— speeding fines. but the issue is tnat ene— speeding fines. but the issue is that she allegedly asked civil eewante— that she allegedly asked civil eewante te— that she allegedly asked civil servants to arrange a private fit servants to arrange a private ttt trtwtng— servants to arrange a private fit driving safety— servants to arrange a private fit driving safety course so tnat— fit driving safety course so tnat ene— fit driving safety course so that she didn't— fit driving safety course so that she didn't have to take the ttnee. — that she didn't have to take the ttnee. sne— that she didn't have to take the fines. she didn't— that she didn't have to take the fines. she didn't have to take tne— fines. she didn't have to take tne eetnte— fines. she didn't have to take the points with— fines. she didn't have to take the points with the potential tnetteatten— the points with the potential implication for— the points with the potential implication for her car insurance premiums and also that if insurance premiums and also that tt ene-t— insurance premiums and also that if she'd appeared— insurance premiums and also that if she'd appeared in a public course, whether— if she'd appeared in a public course, whether it was online or in course, whether it was online or tn eereen— course, whether it was online or tn eereen tt— course, whether it was online or in person, it would— course, whether it was online or in person, it would be known who she in person, it would be known who ene — in person, it would be known who ene sne— in person, it would be known who she was. she was— in person, it would be known who she was. she was obviously very ntgn— she was. she was obviously very ntgn erettte— she was. she was obviously very high profile. now,— she was. she was obviously very high profile. now, the civil eewante— high profile. now, the civil servants were— high profile. now, the civil servants were not prepared to do tnat— servants were not prepared to do tnat .— servants were not prepared to do tnat . et— servants were not prepared to do that . of course,— servants were not prepared to do that . of course, they're civil that. of course, they're civil eewante— that. of course, they're civil servants. they— that. of course, they're civil servants. they need remain servants. they need to remain tnearttat— servants. they need to remain tnearttat. tt— servants. they need to remain impartial. it is— servants. they need to remain impartial. it is not their job to impartial. it is not theirjob to intervene— impartial. it is not theirjob to intervene in— impartial. it is not theirjob to intervene in a- impartial. it is not theirjob to intervene in a politician's ertwate— to intervene in a politician's private affairs— to intervene in a politician's private affairs .— to intervene in a politician's private affairs . so it is private affairs. so it is difficult— private affairs. so it is difficult .— private affairs. so it is difficult . and the opposition, difficult. and the opposition, as difficult. and the opposition, ae wew— difficult. and the opposition, ae wew wewtt— difficult. and the opposition, as you would expect , difficult. and the opposition, as you would expect, are calling for as you would expect, are calling ter an— as you would expect, are calling ter an tngwtrw— as you would expect, are calling for an inquiry suggesting that sir for an inquiry suggesting that en tawrte— for an inquiry suggesting that sir laurie magnus , who's the sir laurie magnus, who's the tnteeentent— sir laurie magnus, who's the independent ethics adviser, enewtt— independent ethics adviser, should look— independent ethics adviser, should look into this and see wnetner— should look into this and see whether there _ should look into this and see whether there has indeed been a treat— whether there has indeed been a treat et— whether there has indeed been a treat et tne— whether there has indeed been a breach of the ministerial code. all breach of the ministerial code. att tnte— breach of the ministerial code. att tnte te— breach of the ministerial code. all this is very— breach of the ministerial code. all this is very difficult for tne— all this is very difficult for the government , very difficult the government, very difficult for the government, very difficult ter tttent — the government, very difficult for rishi sunak,— the government, very difficult for rishi sunak, who's had a bumpy— for rishi sunak, who's had a twnew eewete— for rishi sunak, who's had a bumpy couple of weeks

domestically- bumpy couple of weeks domestically and faces a tttttewtt— domestically and faces a difficult week— domestically and faces a difficult week ahead with the news as we expect that lead ntgratten— news as we expect that lead ntgratten te— news as we expect that lead migration is to— news as we expect that lead migration is to reach an all ttne— migration is to reach an all ttne ntgn— migration is to reach an all ttne ntgn et— migration is to reach an all time high of upwards of 700,000 a wear. — time high of upwards of 700,000 a wear. vee— time high of upwards of 700,000 a wear. tee tte— time high of upwards of 700,000 a year. yes it's yet— time high of upwards of 700,000 a year. yes it's yet another distraction— a year. yes it's yet another distraction from - a year. yes it's yet another distraction from rishi sunaks wew,— distraction from rishi sunaks we, net— distraction from rishi sunaks work, not least— distraction from rishi sunaks work, not least at the g7 ewnntt— work, not least at the g7 ewnntt. — work, not least at the g7 summit. thank- work, not least at the g7 summit. rtiig work, not least at the g7- summit. thank you very much indeed. catherine forster gb news political reporter, bringing us up to date on the story surrounding suella braverman and her speeding fine or driving awareness course that she preferred to discuss this further. i must say i do think this is a bit of a storm in a teacup, but let's see what my panellists think. we've got former labour special adviser paul richards media paul richards and media commentator quirk. who commentator russell quirk. who should i go with first? russell. russell tell me now, do you think like me, this may be a little bit of a storm in a teacup? has she really done anything that terrible ? well, anything that terrible? well, look, this is a complete non—story in my opinion, bearing in mind that this speeding offence was 12 months ago. if

she wasn't even home secretary, ene— she wasn't even home secretary, ene wae— she wasn't even home secretary, she was attorney— she wasn't even home secretary, she was attorney general. and tnere— she was attorney general. and tnere te— she was attorney general. and there is much— she was attorney general. and there is much speculation also atewt— there is much speculation also atewt ner— there is much speculation also about her asking— there is much speculation also about her asking apparently atewt— about her asking apparently atewt tne— about her asking apparently about the fine— about her asking apparently about the fine that might be tneeeet— about the fine that might be tneeeet ter— about the fine that might be imposed for a— about the fine that might be imposed for a speeding offence tetng— imposed for a speeding offence being claimable_ imposed for a speeding offence being claimable under expenses. the being claimable under expenses. tne ertttee— being claimable under expenses. tne ertttee et— being claimable under expenses. the critics of suella— being claimable under expenses. the critics of suella braverman of which there are many, including of course, many in the civil service. that's no coincidence _ civil service. that's no coincidence that- ti. r c ti.ti; that's no coincidence that we're seeing tnte— coincidence that we're seeing tnte etew— coincidence that we're seeing this story today— coincidence that we're seeing this story today and also no coincidence,— this story today and also no coincidence, in— this story today and also no coincidence, in my opinion, entw— coincidence, in my opinion, tnttw-tnte— coincidence, in my opinion, emily, this comes after emily, that this comes after swetta— emily, that this comes after suella—speech. emily, that this comes afteri suella—speech at suella braverman speech at the wattenat— suella braverman speech at the national conservatism conference. - national conservatism conference. the question conference. but the question tnat— conference. but the question tnat ene— conference. but the question that she asked— conference. but the question that she asked of ipsis about eeeettng— that she asked of ipsis about speeding fines— that she asked of ipsis about speeding fines was a question ene— speeding fines was a question ene aetet— speeding fines was a question ene aetet tn— speeding fines was a question she asked in 2015. it was eight weare— she asked in 2015. it was eight weare age.— she asked in 2015. it was eight weare age. se— she asked in 2015. it was eight years ago. so look, is it normal for someone to— years ago. so look, is it normal for someone to get— years ago. so look, is it normal for someone to get caught for eeeettnge— for someone to get caught for eeeettnge tn— for someone to get caught for speeding? in an— for someone to get caught for speeding? in an ideal world, of course we shouldn't get caught for course we shouldn't get caught ter eeeettng— course we shouldn't get caught for speeding, but— course we shouldn't get caught for speeding, but i don't know nanw— for speeding, but i don't know nanw eeeete— for speeding, but i don't know many people haven't. she many people that haven't. she aeearenttw— many people that haven't. she aeearenttw-et- many people that haven't. she aeearenttw-et tt- many people that haven't. she apparently of it is, apparently the truth of it is, wae—anw- apparently the truth of it is, was—many are was offered, as many people are , tne— was offered, as many people are , tne enetee— was offered, as many people are , the choice of— was offered, as many people are , the choice of either points ant— , the choice of either points ant a— , the choice of either points ant a ttne— , the choice of either points and a fine or— , the choice of either points and a fine or a— , the choice of either points and a fine or a speed awareness se ene— and a fine or a speed awareness course. so she was— and a fine or a speed awareness course. so she was offered that enetee — course. so she was offered that enetee .— course. so she was offered that enetee . sne — course. so she was offered that choice . she initially discussed choice. she initially discussed wttn— choice. she initially discussed wttn etwtt— choice. she initially discussed

with civil servants, perhaps ettgnttw— with civil servants, perhaps slightly naively , whether the slightly naively, whether the eeeet— slightly naively, whether the speed awareness course could etnetw— speed awareness course could etnetw te— speed awareness course could etnetw te tene— speed awareness course could simply be done as a 1 to 1 simply be done as a 1 to1 enttne— simply be done as a 1 to1 online rather— simply be done as a 1 to 1 online rather than on a zoom eaw— online rather than on a zoom eatt er— online rather than on a zoom eatt er taee— online rather than on a zoom call or face to— online rather than on a zoom call or face to face with lots of call or face to face with lots et etnet— call or face to face with lots of other people. _ call or face to face with lots of other people. because of her erettte— of other people. because of her erettte. tnat-e— of other people. because of her profile. that's not— of other people. because of her profile. that's not only eenetetetw— profile. that's not only completely reasonable , but if completely reasonable, but if you— completely reasonable, but if wew tatt— completely reasonable, but if wew tatt te— completely reasonable, but if you talk to nick— completely reasonable, but if you talk to nick freeman, you tnew,— you talk to nick freeman, you knew wr— you talk to nick freeman, you know, mr loophole, i'm sure know, mr loophole, who i'm sure wewe— know, mr loophole, who i'm sure we eeeten— know, mr loophole, who i'm sure we eeetenlen— know, mr loophole, who i'm sure you've spoken on news in you've spoken to on gb news in the you've spoken to on gb news in tne-eawe— you've spoken to on gb news in tne-eawe tte— you've spoken to on gb news in tne-eawe ttte a- the past, he says it's a eenetetetw— the past, he says it's a completely normal thing for high erettte— completely normal thing for high profile clients— completely normal thing for high profile clients to— completely normal thing for high profile clients to ask of their tawwere— profile clients to ask of their tawwere-te— profile clients to ask of their lawyers is something that lawyers and is something that tneee— lawyers and is something that those lawyers— lawyers and is something that those lawyers often get granted. tnere— those lawyers often get granted. tnere te— those lawyers often get granted. tnere te ne— those lawyers often get granted. there is no case— those lawyers often get granted. there is no case to— those lawyers often get granted. there is no case to answer here. tnttw— there is no case to answer here. tnttw wett— there is no case to answer here. emily well, paul— there is no case to answer here. emily well, paul ,— there is no case to answer here. emily well, paul , i— there is no case to answer here. emily well, paul, i think you'll tate— emily well, paul, i think you'll take a— emily well, paul, i think you'll take a tate— emily well, paul, i think you'll take a take a— emily well, paul, i think you'll take a take a different, different— take a take a different, different view on this. but to we— different view on this. but to we tt— different view on this. but to we tt eeene— different view on this. but to me it seems she— different view on this. but to me it seems she broke no laws. she did end up taking the points. is it quite normal for such a high profile character, particularly controversial as well , government particularly controversial as well, government minister to her to want to have a private session rather than a public one? well, this isn't about speeding. it's about misuse of the relationship— : “t; it's about misuse of the relationship between a senior minister—

the relationship between a senior minister and their civil eewtee. — senior minister and their civil eewtee. ant— senior minister and their civil eewtee. ant we— senior minister and their civil service. and we have an independent— service. and we have an independent ,- service. and we have an independent, not neutral service. and we have an independent , not neutral civil independent, not neutral civil eewtee— independent, not neutral civil eewtee tn— independent, not neutral civil service in the— independent, not neutral civil service in the uk.— independent, not neutral civil service in the uk. it doesn't do tne— service in the uk. it doesn't do tne eetttteat— service in the uk. it doesn't do the political bidding of ministers— the political bidding of ministers .— the political bidding of ministers . and for her to ask ministers. and for her to ask was wrong. but— ministers. and for her to ask was wrong. but the ingredients of was wrong. but the ingredients et tnte— was wrong. but the ingredients et tnte etew— was wrong. but the ingredients of this story that— was wrong. but the ingredients of this story that hasn't come ewt— of this story that hasn't come ewt vet— of this story that hasn't come ewt vet wnten— of this story that hasn't come out yet, which is— of this story that hasn't come out yet, which is why we need an tngwtrw,— out yet, which is why we need an tngwtrw, te— out yet, which is why we need an inquiryr te tnat— out yet, which is why we need an inquiry, is that she— out yet, which is why we need an inquiry, is that she then asked her inquiry, is that she then asked ner eeeetat— inquiry, is that she then asked her special adviser to ask the gweetten— her special adviser to ask the gweetten ean— her special adviser to ask the question, can you— her special adviser to ask the question, can you have this sort of question, can you have this sort et eeeetat— question, can you have this sort of special privileged 1 to 1? wat— of special privileged 1 to 1? wat anwene— of special privileged 1 to 1? had anyone even heard of that tetere— had anyone even heard of that tetere tetawe— had anyone even heard of that before today? i— had anyone even heard of that before today? i hadn't. i've teen— before today? i hadn't. i've teen en— before today? i hadn't. i've teen en a— before today? i hadn't. i've been on a speed awareness course. i didn't— been on a speed awareness course. i didn't get a chance to do course. i didn't get a chance to te tt— course. i didn't get a chance to te tt en— course. i didn't get a chance to te tt en nw— course. i didn't get a chance to do it on my own.— course. i didn't get a chance to do it on my own. so the use of tne— do it on my own. so the use of tne eeeetat— do it on my own. so the use of the special adviser— do it on my own. so the use of the special adviser to be the special adviser needs to be tnweettgatet— the special adviser needs to be investigated which the special adviser needs to be invetlabouri-which- the special adviser needs to be invetlabour is which the special adviser needs to be invetlabour is saying which the special adviser needs to be invetlabour is saying let'si the special adviser needs to be invetlabour is saying let's bring why labour is saying let's bring in why labour is saying let's bring tn str— why labour is saying let's bring tn str tawrte— why labour is saying let's bring in sir laurie magnus. he's the guy— in sir laurie magnus. he's the gww swnat— in sir laurie magnus. he's the gww swnat nae— in sir laurie magnus. he's the guy sunak has put in charge of tneee— guy sunak has put in charge of tneee ttnte— guy sunak has put in charge of these kinds of— guy sunak has put in charge of these kinds of inquiries where tnere— these kinds of inquiries where there-potential- these kinds of inquiries where there potential breach of there is a potential breach of tne— there is a potential breach of the ministerial— there is a potential breach of the ministerial code and has aetet— the ministerial code and has aetet tnat— the ministerial code and has asked that question is why the eeeetat— asked that question is why the special adviser— asked that question is why the special adviser who is funded by the special adviser who is funded by tne taxeawer. — special adviser who is funded by the taxpayer. don't— special adviser who is funded by the taxpayer. don't forget, it's net— the taxpayer. don't forget, it's net a— the taxpayer. don't forget, it's net a eanw— the taxpayer. don't forget, it's not a party political appointment. why the special atwteer— appointment. why the special atwteer wae— appointment. why the special adviser was asked and did regweet— adviser was asked and did request-special- adviser was asked and did request special treatment. request this special treatment. ttweeett— request this special treatment. ttweeett nae— request this special treatment. russell has paul— request this special treatment. russell has paul got a got a eetnt— russell has paul got a got a eetnt tnere— russell has paul got a got a eetnttnere. — russell has paul got a got a point there . it's- russell has paul got a got a point there . c

point there. it's one rule for suella and another rule for the rest of us should she get such a special privilege ? farage well , special privilege? farage well, as i've already said, it's not a special privilege. it is something that- special privilege. it is something that is- i r : it is something that is available special privilege. it is- something that is available if tawwere— something that is available if tawwere aet— something that is available if lawyers ask it— something that is available if lawyers ask it of— something that is available if lawyers ask it of the speed awareness team - lawyers ask it of the speed awareness team on the basis of tnere— awareness team on the basis of tnere eernaee— awareness team on the basis of there perhaps being some sensitivities— there perhaps being some sensitivities around the individual,— sensitivities around the individual, should she be asking her individual, should she be asking ner eetttteat— individual, should she be asking her political aides, should she be aettng— her political aides, should she be asking civil— her political aides, should she be asking civil servants and eetttteat— be asking civil servants and political aides— be asking civil servants and political aides to help her with tnte— political aides to help her with we twee— political aides to help her with we twee et— political aides to help her with this type of thing? that is a ertwate— this type of thing? that is a private matter, isn't it , emily? private matter, isn't it, emily? i think the clue is in the word aidt_ i think the clue is in the word gr, ten-t— i think the clue is in the word gr, ten-t tte— i think the clue is in the word aid, isn't it? that's what aides enewtt— aid, isn't it? that's what aides enewtt te— aid, isn't it? that's what aides should be doing.— aid, isn't it? that's what aides should be doing. and look, wnetner— should be doing. and look, whether it's— should be doing. and look, whether it's appropriate for the etwtt— whether it's appropriate for the etwtt eewtee— whether it's appropriate for the civil service to— whether it's appropriate for the civil service to be— whether it's appropriate for the civil service to be doing it or notw— civil service to be doing it or net, er— civil service to be doing it or not, or whether— civil service to be doing it or not, or whether it— civil service to be doing it or not, or whether it should be a eetttteat— not, or whether it should be a political adviser— not, or whether it should be a political adviser who's employed by political adviser who's employed tw tne— political adviser who's employed by the conservative party, not by the conservative party, not tw tne— by the conservative party, not tw tne etwtt— by the conservative party, not by the civil service. and the taaeawere— by the civil service. and the taaeawere t— by the civil service. and the taxpayer? i don't- by the civil service. and the taxpayer? i don't think it makes a ret— taxpayer? i don't think it makes a tet et— taxpayer? i don't think it makes a jot of difference.— taxpayer? i don't think it makes a jot of difference. this is the tent— a jot of difference. this is the tett nattng— a jot of difference. this is the tett nattng a— a jot of difference. this is the left making a storm in a teacup. i i left making a storm in a teacup. t t ewggeet— left making a storm in a teacup. t t ewggeet tnat— left making a storm in a teacup. i i suggest that the— left making a storm in a teacup. i i suggest that the reason that tnte— i i suggest that the reason that we nae— i i suggest that the reason that we nae eeeeet— i i suggest that the reason that this has popped up exactly the same-seen with- this has popped up exactly the same seen with dominic same as we've seen with dominic ttaat— same as we've seen with dominic ttaat ant—

same as we've seen with dominic ttaat ant stewe— same as we've seen with dominic raab and steve barclay and priti watet— raab and steve barclay and priti patel,-coincidence- raab and steve barclay and priti patel,-coincidence .- patel, this is no coincidence. tnte— patel, this is no coincidence. tnte te— patel, this is no coincidence. this is brexiteers_ patel, this is no coincidence. this is brexiteers that are tetng— this is brexiteers that are being targeted, frankly, by remoaners in— being targeted, frankly, by remoaners in the civil service . remoaners in the civil service. tnat-e— remoaners in the civil service. tnat-e wnw— remoaners in the civil service. that's why this— remoaners in the civil service. that's why this has been leaked. tnew-re— that's why this has been leaked. tnew-re new— that's why this has been leaked. they're now out— that's why this has been leaked. they're now out to— that's why this has been leaked. they're now out to get suella braverman and _ they're now out to get suella braverman and as i say, no eetnettenee— braverman and as i say, no coincidence that- braverman and as i say, no coincidence that this happens twet— coincidence that this happens twet a— coincidence that this happens twet a tew— coincidence that this happens twet a tew tawe— coincidence that this happens just a few days after her barnstorming_ just a few days after her barnstorming speech in fact, wnere— barnstorming speech in fact, wnere ene— barnstorming speech in fact, where she criticised her boss, twent— where she criticised her boss, tttent swnaw— where she criticised her boss, rishi sunak, with— where she criticised her boss, rishi sunak, with regard to tnntgratten— rishi sunak, with regard to immigration and the lack of eentret— immigration and the lack of control therein. _ immigration and the lack of control therein. so i wouldn't eeeewtate— control therein. so i wouldn't speculate perhaps as far as to say— speculate perhaps as far as to eaw tnat— speculate perhaps as far as to eaw tnat tnte— speculate perhaps as far as to say that this is— speculate perhaps as far as to say that this is this this sits at tne— say that this is this this sits at the hands— say that this is this this sits at the hands of— say that this is this this sits at the hands of rishi sunak nawtng— at the hands of rishi sunak having leaked— at the hands of rishi sunak having leaked this , but having leaked this, but someone's_ having leaked this, but someone's leaked it in a timely taenten— someone's leaked it in a timely taenten te— someone's leaked it in a timely fashion to discredit suella braverman. it— fashion to discredit suella braverman. it is no big deal. wette— braverman. it is no big deal. wewe get— braverman. it is no big deal. wewe get te— braverman. it is no big deal. we've got to kind of get over weeetee t— we've got to kind of get over ourselves, i think. don't you? were— ourselves, i think. don't you? were get— ourselves, i think. don't you? we've got other— ourselves, i think. don't you? we've got other things to be werrwtng— we've got other things to be. werrwtng—eewntrw worrying about in this country ratner— worrying about in this country rather-ministers- rather than the ministers eeettten— rather than the ministers eeettten. t— rather than the ministers position. i certainly do think tnat— position. i certainly do think tnat tte— position. i certainly do think that it's quite— position. i certainly do think that it's quite remarkable that twent— that it's quite remarkable that tttent swnat— that it's quite remarkable that rishi sunak was— that it's quite remarkable that rishi sunak was asked about this by net— rishi sunak was asked about this by net ene— rishi sunak was asked about this by net ewt— rishi sunak was asked about this by not one, but two— rishi sunak was asked about this by not one, but two journalists at tne— by not one, but two journalists at tne et— by not one, but two journalists at the g7 summit,— by not one, but two journalists at the g7 summit, and unsurprisingly , he said, do you unsurprisingly, he said, do you nave— unsurprisingly, he said, do you nave anw— unsurprisingly, he said, do you nave anw te— unsurprisingly, he said, do you nawe anw te wew— unsurprisingly, he said, do you have any do you have any matters to have any do you have any matters te aet— have any do you have any matters te aet ne— have any do you have any matters to ask me about— have any do you have any matters to ask me about that— have any do you have any matters to ask me about that relate to wnat— to ask me about that relate to wnat tn— to ask me about that relate to wnat ttn tetng— to ask me about that relate to what i'm doing at— to ask me about that relate to what i'm doing at the moment. nat— what i'm doing at the moment. nwt ne— what i'm doing at the moment. nwt ne .— what i'm doing at the moment.

nwt ne . eawt— what i'm doing at the moment. but no , paul now— what i'm doing at the moment. but no , paul now-may- what i'm doing at the moment. i but no , paul now-may think but no, paul now you may think it sounds a bit conspiratorial to think, oh, you know, this is leaked in order to get rid of suella, but there's a political agenda blah blah but agenda here, blah blah blah. but can how might appear can you see how it might appear so? because we've seen suella braverman. she's a extremely controversial character for many people , really don't want her to people, really don't want her to be in the position of the home office. they find her thoroughly offensive for one reason or another. she did also have that speech at the conservative conference the other day. do you think there's some truth to this? would you concede that, paul? i mean, who knows ? you paul? i mean, who knows? you know, we all know, don't- 7 7 you know, we all know, don't we, tnat— know, we all know, don't we, tnat tntnge— know, we all know, don't we,i that things—against that things get leaked against eeeete— that things get leaked against eeeete-etner— that things get leaked against people other people don't people that other people don't we— people that other people don't ttte tn— people that other people don't like in politics— people that other people don't like in politics and was special atwteen— like in politics and was special atwteer, wew— like in politics and was special adviser, you know— like in politics and was special adviser, you know , this is what adviser, you know, this is what geee— adviser, you know, this is what geee en— adviser, you know, this is what goes on behind— adviser, you know, this is what goes on behind the scenes. i mean, most of— goes on behind the scenes. i mean, most of the newspapers are ttttet— mean, most of the newspapers are ttttet wttn— mean, most of the newspapers are filled with stories— mean, most of the newspapers are filled with stories that other eeeete— filled with stories that other eeeete nave— filled with stories that other people have put there about eeeete— people have put there about eeene—wte.- people have put there about- people_like. however, people have put there about peofdoesn't like. however, people have put there about peofdoesn't get like. however, people have put there about peofdoesn't get a like. however, people have put there about peofdoesn't get a pass however, people have put there about peofdoesn't get a pass .owever, people have put there about peofdoesn't get a pass . the/er, that doesn't get a pass. the eetnt— that doesn't get a pass. the eetnt-te— that doesn't get a pass. the point-is alleged. that doesn't get a pass. the point is alleged to point that she is alleged to wave— point that she is alleged to wave tene— point that she is alleged to have done something in breach of point that she is alleged to hav code e something in breach of point that she is alleged to hav code , something in breach of point that she is alleged to hav code , which :hing in breach of point that she is alleged to hav code , which is�*ig in breach of point that she is alleged to hav code , which is why breach of point that she is alleged to hav code , which is why there :h of the code, which is why there neete— the code, which is why there neete te — the code, which is why there needs to i an _ the code, which is why there needs to an inquiry so that needs to be an inquiry so that we're speculating, we're not we're not speculating, we're not tetattng— we're not speculating, we're not tetattng-wetre— we're not speculating, we're not debating _we're not-

debating it, and we're not twttttng— debating it, and we're not building conspiracy theories building up conspiracy theories .—eereeni building up conspiracy theories _renew sirl .we'll get a senior person, sir tawrte—tet- .we'll get a senior person, sir. tawrte—tet-te laurie magnus, whose job this is , te— laurie magnus, whose job this is , te teet— laurie magnus, whose job this is , te teet at— laurie magnus, whose job this is ,te teet at tt— laurie magnus, whose job this is , to look at it and— laurie magnus, whose job this is , to look at it and to see wnetner— , to look at it and to see whether or— , to look at it and to see whether or not- , to look at it and to see whether or not she misused the retattenette— whether or not she misused the relationship. she— whether or not she misused the relationship. she asked civil eewante— relationship. she asked civil eewante te— relationship. she asked civil servants to do— relationship. she asked civil servants to do something which tnew— servants to do something which tnew-ne— servants to do something which tnew-ne ,— servants to do something which they-no , because- servants to do something which they no , because it was an they said no, because it was an tnereeer— they said no, because it was an tnereeer regweet— they said no, because it was an improper request and then used a eeeetat— improper request and then used a special adviser— improper request and then used a special adviser instead , which special adviser instead, which wewtt— special adviser instead, which wewtt te— special adviser instead, which would be equally improper in my rtew— would be equally improper in my view, as a former— would be equally improper in my view, as a former special atwteer— view, as a former special atwteer ,— view, as a former special atwteer , wewr— view, as a former special adviser , your reporter from adviser, your reporter from tarenan— adviser, your reporter from fareham _there- adviser, your reporter from fareham there in the fareham down there in the constituency— fareham down there in the constituency doesn't constituency said it doesn't eaee— constituency said it doesn't eaee tne— constituency said it doesn't pass the smell— constituency said it doesn't pass the smell test. and i think tnat-e— pass the smell test. and i think tnat-e ene— pass the smell test. and i think tnat-e et— pass the smell test. and i think that's one of the— pass the smell test. and i think that's one of the key things tt— that's one of the key things tt twet— that's one of the key things now. it just doesn't smell rtgnt,— now. it just doesn't smell rtgnt-tw— now. it just doesn't smell right,-it, that- right, does it, that the atternew— right, does it, that the attorney general and home attorney general and now home seeretarw— attorney general and now home seeretarw ,— attorney general and now home seeretarw , tne — attorney general and now home secretary , the person in charge secretary, the person in charge of secretary, the person in charge et—ewr— secretary, the person in charge et—ewr taw- secretary, the person in charge of-our law and- secretary, the person in charge of-our law and thei of upholding our law and the teet— of upholding our law and the net et— of upholding our law and the net et we— of upholding our law and the rest of us, you— of upholding our law and the rest of us, you know , under the rest of us, you know, under the taw— rest of us, you know, under the same law as everyone else seems to same law as everyone else seems te nave— same law as everyone else seems te nave tnet— same law as everyone else seems te nave trtet te— same law as everyone else seems to have tried to behave in this wew— to have tried to behave in this werw ntgn— to have tried to behave in this very high handed— to have tried to behave in this very high handed manner. cit“ti; very high handed manner. one rate— very high handed manner. one rwte ter— very high handed manner. one rate for net.— very high handed manner. one rule for her, russell— very high handed manner. one rule for her, russell just asked me, she could have sorry, russell. she just, russell. she could have just, you— russell. she could have just,- wew—ettenee, you know, admitted the offence, taken— you know, admitted the offence, taken-tntee— you know, admitted the offence, taken .three points- you know, admitted the offence, taken three points and taken the three points and awettet— taken the three points and avoided .this,- taken the three points and avoided this, couldn't she. avoided all this, couldn't she. went— avoided all this, couldn't she. wnten—ene-ei which she's done, which she's now sorry. i'm asking now done. sorry. i'm asking swetta— now done. sorry. i'm asking suella braverman- : i'm asking suella braverman suella braverman not broken any braverman has not broken any tawe. — braverman has not broken any tawe. ant— braverman has not broken any laws. and look— braverman has not broken any laws. and look here- braverman has not broken any laws. “t: braverman has not broken any laws. 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my colleague here. we get mission creep. inference mission creep. the inference being the home secretary being that the home secretary who is responsible for law and order, has broken the law apart from the speeding, indiscreet session, an absolute session, which is an absolute minor indiscretion , she has minor indiscretion, she has not broken the law in asking 1 or 2 aides for advice as to what she should do about the appearance at a speed awareness course that is not breaking the law. and frankly, she's accused of breaking the ministerial code about this. yes. well, she's ten-t— about this. yes. well, she's ten-t eae— about this. yes. well, she's don't care about— about this. yes. well, she's don't care about this- yes. well, she's don't care about this stuff of treattng— don't care about this stuff of treattng tne— don't care about this stuff of breaking the ministerial code. tne— breaking the ministerial code. tne eretten— breaking the ministerial code. the problem with these kind of etertee— the problem with these kind of etertee te— the problem with these kind of stories is that— the problem with these kind of stories is that one— the problem with these kind of stories is that one assumes that eeeete— stories is that one assumes that eeeete tren — stories is that one assumes that eeeete tren tne— stories is that one assumes that people from the opposition are etwtewetw— people from the opposition are obviously-come- people from the opposition are obviously come down obviously going to come down natt— obviously going to come down wart-new— obviously going to come down hard-her,-for- obviously going to come down hard i her, .for an - obviously going to come down hard her, for an inquiry. hard on her, ask for an inquiry. et -et _ hard on her, ask for an inquiry. tt-tt cetera- hard on her, ask for an inquiry. et-et cetera. it- hard on her, ask for an inquiry. et-et cetera. it all- et cetera. et cetera. it all gen—eate- et cetera. et cetera. it all gete—eate wei et cetera. et cetera. it all. gete—eate we ee gets eaten up. it eats up so nwen— gets eaten up. it eats up so wet netta— gets eaten up. it eats up so much media time. most people at nene— home probably scratching their teate— home probably scratching their. teater—getng heads, and you're probably going to _overblown. - heads, and you're probably going to_overblown. if- to think this is overblown. if you— to think this is overblown. if wew eweeen— to think this is overblown. if you support suella generally and wewre— you support suella generally and wewe—te- you're probably not going to if you— you're probably not going to if wew—eweeen- you're probably not going to if you support labour you were if you support labour or you were if you support labour erleeeeettten— you were if you support labour or opposition party. but or an opposition party. but tnere— or an opposition party. but tnere-we— or an opposition party. but there-we shall- or an opposition party. but there we shall see or an opposition party. but- there _we shall see how there you go. we shall see how tnte— there you go. we shall see how tnte-tnant— there you go. we shall see how this-thank you- there you go. we shall see how this thank you very this unfolds. thank you very nwen— this unfolds. thank you very much indeed,— this unfolds. thank you very much indeed, russell quirk there and much indeed, russell quirk there ant et— much indeed, russell quirk there ant et ewne— much indeed, russell quirk there and of course, we— much indeed, russell quirk there and of course, we had also we nat— and of course, we had also we nat tn— and of course, we had also we nat ttn werw— and of course, we had also we had i'm very sorry,— and of course, we had also we had i'm very sorry, had paul had i'm very sorry, we had paul tttenarte— had i'm very sorry, we had paul

richards-who— had i'm very sorry, we had paul richards-who is- had i'm very sorry, we had paul richards-who is a- had i'm very sorry, we had paul richards who is a former richards there, who is a former tatewr— richards there, who is a former labour special— richards there, who is a former labour special adviser. it teeentt— labour special adviser. it doesn't-like- labour special adviser. it doesn't like they're going labour special adviser. it do agree. like they're going labour special adviser. it do agree. let like they're going labour special adviser. it do agree. let like theywhatting labour special adviser. it do agree. let like theywhat you to agree. let me know what you tntnt— to agree. let me know what you tntnt-wae— to agree. let me know what you think- has she- to agree. let me know what you think- has she been- to agree. let me know what you think has she been is think on that. has she been is tnte— think on that. has she been is tnte att— think on that. has she been is tnte at a— think on that. has she been is this all a bit— think on that. has she been is this all a bit of— think on that. has she been is this all a bit of a— think on that. has she been is this all a bit of a storm in a teaewe— this all a bit of a storm in a teaewe-wew— this all a bit of a storm in ai teacup-you-she's this all a bit of a storm in a- teacup-you-she's got teacup or do you think she's got gweettene— teacup or do you think she's got gweettenelaet— teacup or do you think she's got questions ask now? sinn fein, questions to ask now? sinn fein, wennern— questions to ask now? sinn fein, northern ireland,— questions to ask now? sinn fein, northern ireland, sinn fein is new—eanw- northern ireland, sinn fein is new—eanw tn- now the largest party in wennern— now the largest party in northern irish- now the largest party in northern irish local government, as northern irish local government, aet-— northern irish local government, as-in stormont- northern irish local government, as in stormont following northern irish local government, as electionstormont following northern irish local government, as elections earliert following northern irish local government, as elections earlier this.owing local elections earlier this week.— local elections earlier this weeereeet-- local elections earlier this week. cross over to our week. let's cross over to our wennern— week. let's cross over to our northern ireland— week. let's cross over to our northern ireland reporter dougie neattte— northern ireland reporter dougie neattte te— northern ireland reporter dougie beattie to bring— northern ireland reporter dougie beattie to bring us up to date . beattie to bring us up to date. wewgte— beattie to bring us up to date. dougie beattie_ beattie to bring us up to date. dougie beattie fein, a good dougie beattie sinn fein, a good ntgnt— dougie beattie sinn fein, a good ntgnt ter— dougie beattie sinn fein, a good ntgnt ter tnew— dougie beattie sinn fein, a good ntgnt ter tnen .— dougie beattie sinn fein, a good night for them . an— dougie beattie sinn fein, a good night for them . an absolutely night for them. an absolutely exeettent— night for them. an absolutely excellent night— night for them. an absolutely excellent night for sinn fein. tweettent. — excellent night for sinn fein. excellent. two _ excellent night for sinn fein. excellent. two days- excellent night for sinn fein. excellent. two days actually. our count went across two days. here we are pr proportional representation and that's part of the reason sinn fein are masters at controlling the vote and getting their electorate to vote. exactly as they tell them to. one to and some areas to one they are brilliant at it. you can take lessons of it, but really it truly it isn't. it is as much as it's a big story for sinn fein, it's not a big story for nationalism nationalism back

in 1998 held 39.9% of the vote. then the sdlp was the larger party and sinn fein the primary party. so now what is really happening is we are seeing the coming together of nationalism really into one party. the sdlp is the more liberal business type party and of course they are now being swallowed up by sinn fein and by the centre ground. but exactly the same thing is happening with unionism. the dup went into this election . it is local council election. it is local council elections , but they said they elections, but they said they wanted they they secure their mandate and staying out of stormont due to the post—brexit trading arrangements and of course they came back with exactly what they went in with. so the dup vote did not fall ehhen so the dup vote did not fall either. but the liberal ulster unionist party did and they lost 16 seats. so there's a number of things that'll be going on here if chris heaton—harris, the secretary of state for northern ireland, wants to put stormont

back in place again, he is going to have to give politico representation over their own laws for northern ireland and get around some of these problems. last left by the post—brexit trading agreements . post—brexit trading agreements. or he does away with the consent part of the good friday agreement and tries to cobble together some sort of government between the alliance party and sinn fein . that will not work sinn fein. that will not work for him . so chris heaton—harris for him. so chris heaton—harris has a few things to look at on his in—tray. sinn fein , of his in—tray. sinn fein, of course, will be pushing hard as the snp did in scotland . now the snp did in scotland. now talking about referendums , talking about referendums, unification of ireland. they will be very much pushing down that road and trying to use every influence they have inside the media to keep that on the top of the agenda for over the next year or so . but really sinn next year or so. but really sinn fein are , as you've said, the fein are, as you've said, the biggest party in stormont, the biggest party in stormont, the biggest party in local government, they're the biggest party in the dail and the

repubuc party in the dail and the republic of ireland and aren't yet in government there, and they do have mps in westminster that do not take their seats. so really for sinn fein and nationalism, this is going to see a new direction for sinn fein and where they are going to go and how they are going to become acceptable , especially to become acceptable, especially to unionist politicians. our population , if they want to go population, if they want to go into united ireland situation. thank you very much indeed. dougie beattie their reporter to us dougie beattie their reporter to we tren — dougie beattie their reporter to us from northern— dougie beattie their reporter to us from northern ireland, our wennern— us from northern ireland, our northern ireland. reporter rtgnt,— northern ireland. reporter .rgre, wew— northern ireland. reporter .rgrr, wew are— northern ireland. reporter right, you are watching and ttetentng— right, you are watching and ttetentng te— right, you are watching and listening to gb— right, you are watching and listening to gb news sunday with me, listening to gb news sunday with entw— listening to gb news sunday with me, emily carville._ listening to gb news sunday with me, emily carville. we've got tete— me, emily carville. we've got tete tnere— me, emily carville. we've got lots more coming— me, emily carville. we've got lots more coming up on today's enew— lots more coming up on today's show-afternoon— lots more coming up on today's show afternoon the show this afternoon as the tattewt— show this afternoon as thei fallout- following fallout continues. following wttt— fallout continues. following phil schofield's_ fallout continues. following phil schofield's departure from this phil schofield's departure from twe-,— phil schofield's departure from twe-r tte— phil schofield's departure from this-, it's time- phil schofield's departure from this-, it's time to- phil schofield's departure from this , it's time to ask this morning, it's time to ask wne— this morning, it's time to ask wne enewtt— this morning, it's time to ask who should replace him. but wnw— who should replace him. but reg, tet-e— who should replace him. but first, let's take— who should replace him. but first, let's take a— who should replace him. but first, let's take a look at the weatner— first, let's take a look at the weather with _ first, let's take a look at the weather with craig snell. hello tnere.— weather with craig snell. hello there. welcome— weather with craig snell. hello there. welcome to— weather with craig snell. hello there. welcome to your gb news weatner— there. welcome to your gb news weather forecast _ there. welcome to your gb news weather forecast from the met etttee. — weather forecast from the met etttee. tnn— weather forecast from the met office. i'm craig— weather forecast from the met office. t; weather forecast from the met office. g �*tsttti; ”ti: office. i'm craig snell. we're looking ahead to the week ahead. for most of should be for most of us, it should be mainly with some spells of mainly dry with some spells of sunshine, bit rain sunshine, a little bit of rain from time time across

from time to time across scotland and ireland. scotland and northern ireland. and we're and that's really how we're going to end the weekend. we still cold here. still have this cold front here. it weaken we head into it will weaken as we head into monday this area of high monday as this area of high pressure really begins to dominate the united dominate across the united kingdom. but before we get there, you see it across there, you can see it across northern scotland as northern ireland and scotland as we probably most we end sunday. probably the most persistent rain eastern persistent rain across eastern scotland, where further south across england and wales, lots of around, of clear skies around, especially out towards the west. but could allow it to turn but that could allow it to turn quite chilly. so just like last night, see temperatures night, we could see temperatures as low as 1 or 2 degrees across some prone spots of wales and the for most, as the midlands. but for most, as we start the new working week , we start the new working week, it be fairly quiet. best it should be fairly quiet. best of the sunshine will be initially across many western parts the uk out towards the parts of the uk out towards the east we have some low cloud coming in from the north sea. still the risk of the odd spot of rain too for eastern scotland. as we go through scotland. but as we go through the course of the most it the course of the day, most it should dry. could just should be dry. could just see the shower the very the odd shower across the very far scotland, but in the odd shower across the very far sunshine '>cotland, but in the odd shower across the very far sunshine feeling, but in the odd shower across the very far sunshine feeling pleasantly the sunshine feeling pleasantly warm, could see highs reaching 23 24 degrees down 23 or possibly 24 degrees down towards south—west. but

towards the south—west. but please high uv levels if please do note high uv levels if you are out about out into you are out and about out into the evening, a fine end to the day for most could just see the odd across the pennines . odd shower across the pennines. but they should but that should they should quickly disappear we head quickly disappear as we head into small hours of tuesday into the small hours of tuesday morning. for many largely morning. and for many largely clear skies will allow another fairly chilly night for the time of year. but most towns and cities should hold up around 10 to 11 degrees. so we start tuesday on another sunny note, the exception really the very far north of scotland, where we continue to see the risk of some cloud and some outbreaks of rain. and that really continues as we go into wednesday and thursday . always the best of thursday. always the best of sunshine, probably down towards the south and in the sunshine , the south and in the sunshine, feeling warm with highs potentially reaching the 20s potentially reaching the mid 20s by thursday

the end of international law. as we know it. you're listening to gb we know it. you're listening to en wewe— we know it. you're listening to gb news radio— we know it. you're listening to gb news radio .— we know it. you're listening to gb news radio . _ c you're listening to gb news radio . i i gb news radio. welcome back. you're watching and listening to gb news sunday with me, emily

carver on your tv and digital radio . so as we've been hearing radio. so as we've been hearing the big news, it's been across all of the newspapers this morning. tv presenter phil schofield announcing that he will, in fact , step down from will, in fact, step down from itv's this morning with immediate effect. very dramatic. in a short statement after he announced his departure, his former co—presenter , holly former co—presenter, holly willoughby him for all willoughby thanked him for all of his knowledge, his experience and his humour. she added , the and his humour. she added, the sofa won't feel the same without him. sure, it will feel a little lighter after all that's been going on in recent weeks. so joining me now is talent manager and pr consultant carlos speight. carla, now you are a talent manager, pr consultant . talent manager, pr consultant. what would you be advising? let's go with phil, what would you be advising phil to do now ? you be advising phil to do now? well, um, i'd be advising phil to well, um, i'd be advising phil te tate— well, um, i'd be advising phil te take a— well, um, i'd be advising phil to take a break,— well, um, i'd be advising phil to take a break, take a step taew— to take a break, take a step back, because— to take a break, take a step back, because he's had nothing enew— back, because he's had nothing enen et— back, because he's had nothing enen et a— back, because he's had nothing short of a battering this last week— short of a battering this last week ,— short of a battering this last week , waen-t— short of a battering this last week , hasn't he? : week, hasn't he? so he needs to try and take some time, recollect himself , look after recollect himself, look after himself, then come back .

himself, and then come back. he's already conversation he's already in conversation with other shows. i believe so it's going to be interesting to see where he ends up. yes, it's quite interesting,— see where he ends up. yes, it's quite interesting, carla,- quite interesting, carla, neaee— quite interesting, carla, because people were saying, oh, his because people were saying, oh, nte aeet— because people were saying, oh, his career-finished— because people were saying, oh, his career finished after his career is finished after tnte— his career is finished after tnte. ewt— his career is finished after tnte. nwt wee— his career is finished after this. but yes, we've seen reeene— this. but yes, we've seen reeene tnat— this. but yes, we've seen reports that he- this. but yes, we've seen reports that he is already, in rag,— reports that he is already, in rag, tatttng— reports that he is already, in fact, talking to— reports that he is already, in fact, talking to other shows and he fact, talking to other shows and ne naw— fact, talking to other shows and ne naw wett— fact, talking to other shows and ne naw wett te— fact, talking to other shows and he may well be given be back on the he may well be given be back on tne tettw— he may well be given be back on tne tettw wew— he may well be given be back on the telly very soon— he may well be given be back on the telly very soon indeed. who tnewee— the telly very soon indeed. who tnewee ant— the telly very soon indeed. who knows? and holly,— the telly very soon indeed. who knows? and holly, she's been gwtte— knows? and holly, she's been quite-throughout- knows? and holly, she's been quite throughout this. quite quiet throughout this. snee— quite quiet throughout this. see gtwen— quite quiet throughout this. she's given this statement that is she's given this statement that te gwtte— she's given this statement that te gwtte ntnt— she's given this statement that te gwtte ttnt .— she's given this statement that is quite kind . nice, sweet fits is quite kind. nice, sweet fits ner— is quite kind. nice, sweet fits ner tnage— is quite kind. nice, sweet fits ner trnage et— is quite kind. nice, sweet fits her image of being, you know, a ne— her image of being, you know, a ,— her image of being, you know, a , a ne— her image of being, you know, a nice , a nice woman— her image of being, you know, a nice , a nice woman on the sofa, nice, a nice woman on the sofa, a te— nice, a nice woman on the sofa, a ereeenten— nice, a nice woman on the sofa, a nice presenter. is— nice, a nice woman on the sofa, a nice presenter. is that the rtgnt— a nice presenter. is that the rtgnt aeereaen— a nice presenter. is that the right approach to sort of keep it right approach to sort of keep tt att— right approach to sort of keep tt att treet— right approach to sort of keep it all fresh and— right approach to sort of keep it all fresh and fluffy ? it all fresh and fluffy? i think it's it all fresh and fluffy? i think tte gwtte— it all fresh and fluffy? i think it's quite that's quite normal for holly. i think that comes naturally to her. i don't think she's someone who is very outwardly feisty in that she wouldn't like put any of her private information out there for the whole world to see. um, but also it's, it's also a really smart move in terms of like taking your career forward

and how much professional she is . sorry, ijust. ijust and how much professional she is . sorry, i just. i just missed wnat— . sorry, i just. i just missed wnat wew— . sorry, i just. i just missed what you said— sorry, i just. i just missed what you said there. but in terme— what you said there. but in terne et— what you said there. but in terms of the— what you said there. but in terms of the show itself, how tneenant— terms of the show itself, how tneenant te— terms of the show itself, how important do you— terms of the show itself, how important do you think it is tnat— important do you think it is tnat tnere— important do you think it is that there is— important do you think it is that there is a— important do you think it is that there is a couple that stay on that there is a couple that stay en tne— that there is a couple that stay en tne eereen— that there is a couple that stay on the screen together day in, day— on the screen together day in, taw ewt,— on the screen together day in, taw ewt, er— on the screen together day in, taw ewt, er te— on the screen together day in, day out, or do you— on the screen together day in, day out, or do you think the ternat— day out, or do you think the ternat et— day out, or do you think the format of the— day out, or do you think the format of the show is good enewgn— format of the show is good enewgn te— format of the show is good enough to carry— format of the show is good enough to carry any presenter anw— enough to carry any presenter over any decent— enough to carry any presenter over any decent presenter anyway?— over any decent presenter anyway? wew— over any decent presenter anyway? how much is it about tnt— anyway? how much is it about tntt ant— anyway? how much is it about phil and holly— anyway? how much is it about phil and holly 7— anyway? how much is it about phil and holly .7 i— anyway? how much is it about phil and holly ? i think it's phil and holly? i think it's eretattw— phil and holly? i think it's eretattw twe— phil and holly? i think it's probably due now that we have tnte— probably due now that we have this refresh. _ probably due now that we have this refresh. we've— probably due now that we have this refresh. �*trwtti; i“ probably due now that we have this refresh. �*trwtti; “ this refresh. we've seen how well that dermot and alison have been going on the show and i think that it will be really good for the show to have that refresh and in terms of who's presenting it, it'll make things more for the more interesting for the audience. definitely i think so. it does seem an awfully long tne— it does seem an awfully long ttne ter— it does seem an awfully long ttne ter tne— it does seem an awfully long time for the same faces to be on the time for the same faces to be on tne eae— time for the same faces to be on tne enew,— time for the same faces to be on the same show, to— time for the same faces to be on the same show, to be occupying et— the same show, to be occupying et tne— the same show, to be occupying one of the most— the same show, to be occupying one of the most high profile ereeenttng— one of the most high profile presenting gigs— one of the most high profile presenting gigs in the country. arnte— presenting gigs in the country. arnte t— presenting gigs in the country. arnte t te— presenting gigs in the country. arnie i do sometimes think, you

tnew,— arnie i do sometimes think, you knew gwe— arnie i do sometimes think, you know, give someone, give someone etee— know, give someone, give someone etee a— know, give someone, give someone etee a go,— know, give someone, give someone etee a ge, gwe— know, give someone, give someone else a go, give someone not neeeeearttw— else a go, give someone not necessarily younger, but someone tttterent— necessarily younger, but someone tttterent .— necessarily younger, but someone tttterent . ewt— necessarily younger, but someone different . but yeah— necessarily younger, but someone different . but yeah , i mean the different. but yeah, i mean the geet— different. but yeah, i mean the geet ter— different. but yeah, i mean the geet ter tnat— different. but yeah, i mean the good for that anyway. i good for that anyway. because wnen— good for that anyway. because when tettw— good for that anyway. because when holly and phil have always taken their break, there's always been other presenters come change the format come in to change the format up a little continuity is a little bit and continuity is good though, because gives good though, because it gives the expectation they the audience an expectation they know so that's why there's people. so that's why there's been such hype around what's been such a hype around what's going with phil and holly, going on with phil and holly, because you they're because it's you know, they're all there are stalwart all sort of there are stalwart like go to almost just almost like go to almost just almost like the royal family. you expect them to stay consistent and you expect this sort of personality to run through. but when that sort of goes a bit wonky, everyone starts to go, oh, hang on, it is yeah, it's a good thing that they've been there for that long. but also so it's probably a time for change anyway. probably time for etange— anyway. probably time for change. anyway,- 5“g probably time for change. anyway, thank you very nwen— change. anyway, thank you very wet tnteet— change. anyway, thank you very much indeed. carla speight , much indeed. carla speight, tnetr— much indeed. carla speight, their-manager- much indeed. carla speight, their manager and pr their talent manager and pr eenewtt—nerl their talent manager and pr. consult—her take consult agent, giving her take on consult agent, giving her take en tne— consult agent, giving her take en tne wnete— consult agent, giving her take on the whole phil schofield trana— on the whole phil schofield trana .— on the whole phil schofield drama . well,— on the whole phil schofield drama . well, they've had a drama. well, they've had a naeetwelte— drama. well, they've had a massive to viewing massive hit to their viewing ttgwree— massive hit to their viewing i ttgwree—tnte

figures, apparently, since this nae— figures, apparently, since this nae att— figures, apparently, since this has all been— figures, apparently, since this has all been-on.- figures, apparently, since this has all been on. so i has all been going on. so i wenter— has all been going on. so i wonder whoever- has all been going on. so i wonder whoever takes the place of wonder whoever takes the place et-wttt— wonder whoever takes the place et-wttt te — wonder whoever takes the place of-will be able— wonder whoever takes the place of-will be able to- wonder whoever takes the place of will be able to boost of phil will be able to boost tneee— of phil will be able to boost those ratings— of phil will be able to boost those ratings up— of phil will be able to boost those ratings up again. or eernaee— those ratings up again. or eernaee tettw— those ratings up again. or perhaps holly needs to get the teet— perhaps holly needs to get the teet te— perhaps holly needs to get the boot to shake— perhaps holly needs to get the boot to shake things up dramatically— boot to shake things up dramatically . anyway, moving on dramatically. anyway, moving on to dramatically. anyway, moving on te a— dramatically. anyway, moving on te a ttgnter— dramatically. anyway, moving on to a lighter story,— dramatically. anyway, moving on to a lighter story, perhaps a bit to a lighter story, perhaps a ttt et— to a lighter story, perhaps a bit of escapism,— to a lighter story, perhaps a bit of escapism, the ultimate ttet— bit of escapism, the ultimate ttet et— bit of escapism, the ultimate ttet et wne-e— bit of escapism, the ultimate list of who's who— bit of escapism, the ultimate list of who's who in the uk has teen— list of who's who in the uk has been released— list of who's who in the uk has been released this— list of who's who in the uk has been released this week telling us been released this week telling we wne-e— been released this week telling us who's wealth _ been released this week telling us who's wealth has gone and us who's wealth has gone up and wne-e— us who's wealth has gone up and wne-e nae— us who's wealth has gone up and wne-e nae gene— us who's wealth has gone up and who's has gone down. the billionaire— who's has gone down. the billionaire family billionaire hinduja family teeeet— billionaire hinduja family teeeet tne— billionaire hinduja family topped the sunday times. rich list topped the sunday times. rich ttet ter— topped the sunday times. rich ttet ter tne— topped the sunday times. rich list for the second year in a atttng— list for the second year in a row, adding more than £6 billion to row, adding more than £6 billion te tnew— row, adding more than £6 billion to their fortune. _ row, adding more than £6 billion to their fortune. wow and for tne— to their fortune. wow and for tne tnt— to their fortune. wow and for the first time— to their fortune. wow and for the first time in— to their fortune. wow and for the first time in 14 years, the nwrnrte— the first time in 14 years, the nwrnrte et— the first time in 14 years, the number of billionaires on the list number of billionaires on the wet-tett— number of billionaires on the ttet-tett by- number of billionaires on the list-fell by six- number of billionaires on the list-fell by six to- list actually fell by six to entw— list actually fell by six to entw ttt. — list actually fell by six to only 171. we've- list actually fell by six to only 171. we've only got 171 billionaires— only 171. we've only got 171 billionaires in— only 171. we've only got 171 billionaires in this country. is tnat— billionaires in this country. is tnat a— billionaires in this country. is tnat a etgn— billionaires in this country. is tnat a etgn et— billionaires in this country. is that a sign of decline or is tnat— that a sign of decline or is tnat a— that a sign of decline or is tnat a geet— that a sign of decline or is that a good thing? who knows? but that a good thing? who knows? ewt tneee— that a good thing? who knows? but those who— that a good thing? who knows? but those who stayed in the billionaires— but those who stayed in the billionaires club— but those who stayed in the billionaires club still saw tnew— billionaires club still saw their wealth— billionaires club still saw their wealth grow close to their wealth grow by close to tet — their wealth grow by close to tet -se — their wealth grow by close to tet -se wnat- their wealth grow by close to £31-so what does- £31 billion. so what does a ntttten— £31 billion. so what does a ntttten eww— £31 billion. so what does a million buy you? here's a man wne— million buy you? here's a man wne ntgnt— million buy you? here's a man wne ntgnt te— million buy you? here's a man who might be able to tell us. wttt— who might be able to tell us. will christie,— who might be able to tell us. will christie, who is the ceo of cnrtette— will christie, who is the ceo of christie yachts?— will christie, who is the ceo of christie yachts? well, the clue is christie yachts? well, the clue te tn— christie yachts? well, the clue te tn tne — christie yachts? well, the clue is in the name— christie yachts? well, the clue is in the name there. will you eew— is in the name there. will you eett waente— is in the name there. will you sell yachts now?— is in the name there. will you

sell yachts now? are these the big sell yachts now? are these the ttg ttaenw— sell yachts now? are these the ttg ttaenw nega— sell yachts now? are these the big flashy mega yachts that you see big flashy mega yachts that you tn— big flashy mega yachts that you tn tne— big flashy mega yachts that you see in the mediterranean ? �*trwttigc see in the mediterranean? well, a ntttten— see in the mediterranean? well, antttten ant— see in the mediterranean? well, a million and sadly— see in the mediterranean? well, a million and sadly won't buy very much. so i'm glad we're tatttng— very much. so i'm glad we're talking about— wig i“ so i'm glad we're talking about billionaires neaee— talking about billionaires because that's the kind of weattn— because that's the kind of weattn wew— because that's the kind of wealth you need to buy the boats or wealth you need to buy the boats er tne— wealth you need to buy the boats er tne teate— wealth you need to buy the boats or the boats were— wealth you need to buy the boats or the boats were involved in, in or the boats were involved in, tn anw— or the boats were involved in, tn anw aee— or the boats were involved in, in any case. but— or the boats were involved in, in any case. but it's something tnat— in any case. but it's something tnat we— in any case. but it's something tnat we tnt— in any case. but it's something that we find people when they get te — that we find people when they get te a— that we find people when they get to a certain— that we find people when they get to a certain level of weattw— get to a certain level of weattw tt— get to a certain level of wealth, it gives them a unique eeetene— wealth, it gives them a unique eeetene ,— wealth, it gives them a unique experience , which really nothing experience, which really nothing etee— experience, which really nothing etee eretttee— experience, which really nothing else provides. so— experience, which really nothing else provides. so we've seen the weattw— else provides. so we've seen the weattn tn— else provides. so we've seen the weattn tn tne— else provides. so we've seen the wealth in the world— else provides. so we've seen the wealth in the world not just were— wealth in the world not just ten tn— wealth in the world not just here in britain,— wealth in the world not just here in britain, but across the wewt— here in britain, but across the wertt, grewtng— here in britain, but across the world, growing at— here in britain, but across the world, growing at quite a rapid eaee— world, growing at quite a rapid eaee tne— world, growing at quite a rapid pace over the last— world, growing at quite a rapid pace over the last decade or so . ant— pace over the last decade or so . ant tte— pace over the last decade or so . and it's been— pace over the last decade or so . and it's been a— pace over the last decade or so . and it's been a great time for tntwetrw— . and it's been a great time for our industry because i do genwtnetw— our industry because i do genuinely think it offers eenetntng— genuinely think it offers something totally unique apart tren— something totally unique apart tren tetng— something totally unique apart from being out— something totally unique apart from being out on the water, wnten— from being out on the water, wnten te— from being out on the water, which is lovely,— from being out on the water, which is lovely, and being on a luxury— which is lovely, and being on a luxury teat— which is lovely, and being on a luxury teat te— which is lovely, and being on a luxury boat is it— which is lovely, and being on a luxury boat is it also privacy concerns as a lot— luxury boat is it also privacy concerns as a lot of very rich eeeete— concerns as a lot of very rich people presumably want to keep a low people presumably want to keep a tew erettte— people presumably want to keep a low profile sometimes particularly-

low profile sometimes particularly when they're trawetttng— particularly when they're travelling, when they're on netttaw— travelling, when they're on holiday with _ travelling, when they're on holiday with their family. /tit. holiday with their family. you can completely— holiday with their family. you can completely escape,- holiday with their family. you can completely escape, can't you 7 can completely escape, can't you ? that's right. i think the eeeete— ? that's right. i think the eeeete wne— ? that's right. i think the people who buy- 7’ . g“ i think the people who buy these yachts fall into people who buy these yachts fall tnte twe — people who buy these yachts fall tnte twe grewee. — people who buy these yachts fall into two groups. you either buy waent— into two groups. you either buy waent wte— into two groups. you either buy yacht like this— into two groups. you either buy yacht like this to— into two groups. you either buy yacht like this to be seen or net— yacht like this to be seen or net te— yacht like this to be seen or net te te— yacht like this to be seen or not to be seen.— yacht like this to be seen or not to be seen. yeah and it's a erettw— not to be seen. yeah and it's a erettw geet— not to be seen. yeah and it's a erettw geet waw— not to be seen. yeah and it's a pretty good way to _ not to be seen. yeah and it's a pretty good way to tell people tnat— pretty good way to tell people tnat wewe— pretty good way to tell people that you've arrived in the billionaires— that you've arrived in the billionaires club when you turn up billionaires club when you turn we eneweeen— billionaires club when you turn up somewhere in— billionaires club when you turn up somewhere in a yacht like tnte— up somewhere in a yacht like tnte. ewt— up somewhere in a yacht like tnte. ewt ter— up somewhere in a yacht like this. but for every person tnat-e— this. but for every person tnat-e wte— this. but for every person that's like that, there is egwattw— that's like that, there is equally people who want the te— equally people who want the means to escape— equally people who want the means to escape and not be seen. ant— means to escape and not be seen. ant tneee— means to escape and not be seen. and these boats— means to escape and not be seen. and these boats really offer you the and these boats really offer you tne ntgneet— and these boats really offer you the highest levels— and these boats really offer you the highest levels of luxury, ewt— the highest levels of luxury, twt wew— the highest levels of luxury, ewt wew ean— the highest levels of luxury, but you can be— the highest levels of luxury, but you can be navigating and erwtetng— but you can be navigating and erwtetng tn— but you can be navigating and cruising in areas— but you can be navigating and cruising in areas of the world tnat— cruising in areas of the world tnat etnetw— cruising in areas of the world tnat etnetw wew— cruising in areas of the world that simply you can't get to by any— that simply you can't get to by anw etnet— that simply you can't get to by any other form _ that simply you can't get to by any other form of— that simply you can't get to by any other form of transport. now ereewnattw— any other form of transport. now presumably most— any other form of transport. now presumably most of our viewers watentng— presumably most of our viewers watentng new— presumably most of our viewers watching now probably can't attent— watching now probably can't attert a— watching now probably can't afford a superyacht, although eteaee— afford a superyacht, although eteaee te— afford a superyacht, although please do write— afford a superyacht, although please do write in to me if you tett— please do write in to me if you tett ne— please do write in to me if you can tell me which— please do write in to me if you can tell me which one you've got,— can tell me which one you've get. neaee— can tell me which one you've got, because i'm— can tell me which one you've got, because i'm interested in tne— got, because i'm interested in tne eeete— got, because i'm interested in tne eeete et— got, because i'm interested in the costs of these— got, because i'm interested in the costs of these things, neaee— the costs of these things, because _you'vej the costs of these things,- because _you've got the because obviously you've got the big because obviously you've got the ttg eeet— because obviously you've got the ttg eeet et— because obviously you've got the ttg eeet et tne— because obviously you've got the big cost of the boat itself .

big cost of the boat itself. nat— big cost of the boat itself. we twen— big cost of the boat itself. but then how— big cost of the boat itself. but then how much- big cost of the boat itself. but then how much does it cost you to moor it in? i don't know , saint—tropez or monaco or santorini or even in london. there's a huge cost on that as well as the fuel etcetera . well as the fuel etcetera. absolutely . the largest cost is absolutely. the largest cost is aetwattw— absolutely. the largest cost is aetwattw wewr— absolutely. the largest cost is actually your crew. they employ actually your crew. they employ a nwge — actually your crew. they employ a nwge arnewnt— actually your crew. they employ a huge amount of— actually your crew. they employ a huge amount of crew, these teate— a huge amount of crew, these teate ant— a huge amount of crew, these boats, and they're— a huge amount of crew, these boats, and they're very professional,- boats, and they're very professional, are all highly gwattttet— professional, are all highly qualified people . so the crew is qualified people. so the crew is eretattw— qualified people. so the crew is eretattw wewr— qualified people. so the crew is probably your biggest cost cente— probably your biggest cost eente ewt— probably your biggest cost centre, but of— probably your biggest cost centre, but of course dependent on centre, but of course dependent en wnere— centre, but of course dependent en wnere wew— centre, but of course dependent on where you berth if you want to on where you berth if you want te tenn— on where you berth if you want te tertn tn— on where you berth if you want to berth in central— on where you berth if you want to berth in central pay in the eeat— to berth in central pay in the eeat eeaeen— to berth in central pay in the peak season in— to berth in central pay in the peak season in the summer, it gete— peak season in the summer, it gete erettw— peak season in the summer, it gets pretty expensive live, but tnew— gets pretty expensive live, but tnew are— gets pretty expensive live, but they are expensive . ballpark. they are expensive. ballpark. wew— they are expensive. ballpark. wew nwen— they are expensive. ballpark. how much does— they are expensive. ballpark. how much does it cost to moor wewr— how much does it cost to moor wewr-tn— how much does it cost to moor your in saint—tropez for your boat in saint—tropez for a week. — your boat in saint—tropez for a week. t— your boat in saint—tropez for a week. i would. no,- your boat in saint—tropez for a week. : no, i'd have to week. i would. no, i'd have to aet— week. i would. no, i'd have to aet a— week. i would. no, i'd have to aet a eaetatw— week. i would. no, i'd have to ask a captain, but— week. i would. no, i'd have to ask a captain, but if— week. : no, i'd have to ask a captain, but if you have to ask a captain, but if you have te aew— ask a captain, but if you have te aew wew— ask a captain, but if you have to ask, you can't— ask a captain, but if you have to ask, you can't afford it. as wnat— to ask, you can't afford it. as wnat tnew— to ask, you can't afford it. as what they normally say. but it's it what they normally say. but it's tt te— what they normally say. but it's tt te a— what they normally say. but it's tt te a great— what they normally say. but it's it is a great luxury. it's a great— it is a great luxury. it's a great twn— it is a great luxury. it's a great fun thing- it is a great luxury. it's a great fun thing to do . and we've great fun thing to do. and we've got great fun thing to do. and we've get ee— great fun thing to do. and we've got some fantastic— great fun thing to do. and we've got some fantastic owners . got some fantastic owners. tnew-re — got some fantastic owners. tnew-re wew— got some fantastic owners. they're very you know, they're atee— they're very you know, they're also - responsive - they're very you know, they're also responsive people. also very responsive people. they— also very responsive people. tnew-atew— also very responsive people. they - about the - also very responsive people. they about the ocean. a lot they care about the ocean. a lot of they care about the ocean. a lot et tne— they care about the ocean. a lot et tne teate— they care about the ocean. a lot of the boats that— they care about the ocean. a lot of the boats that we sell get tnwetwet— of the boats that we sell get tnwetwet tn— of the boats that we sell get involved in science expeditions . tnew— involved in science expeditions . tnew tean— involved in science expeditions . they loan them— involved in science expeditions . they loan them people to . they loan them to people to

eetteet— . they loan them to people to collect data.— . they loan them to people to collect data. we've had yachts tnwewet— collect data. we've had yachts tnwetwet tn— collect data. we've had yachts involved in helping in natural tteaeten— involved in helping in natural tteaetere .— involved in helping in natural disasters . so— involved in helping in natural disasters . so they're not always disasters. so they're not always twet— disasters. so they're not always twet ettttng— disasters. so they're not always twet ettttng tn— disasters. so they're not always just sitting in saint—tropez . just sitting in saint—tropez. tnew-re— just sitting in saint—tropez. tnew-re tetng— just sitting in saint—tropez. they're doing some pretty tntereettng— they're doing some pretty interesting things . and it's interesting things. and it's a wentertwt— interesting things. and it's a wonderful industry. i feel very ertwtteget— wonderful industry. i feel very ertwtteget te— wonderful industry. i feel very privileged to work in it and meet— privileged to work in it and meet some fascinating people. i tntnt. — meet some fascinating people. i tntnt. t— meet some fascinating people. i think. i think— meet some fascinating people. i think. i think that's— meet some fascinating people. i think. i think that's where my superyacht would sitting, superyacht would be sitting, though most of though probably most most of the. anyway, thank you very much indeed christie yachts indeed. ceo of christie yachts there will christie talking about the super yachts. what you could buy if you were on the rich list . although i don't know rich list. although i don't know if they keep value , if they keep their value, perhaps diminish like like perhaps they diminish like like some do. but i'll i'll find some cars do. but i'll i'll find out next i speak to will. out next time i speak to will. you watching listening you are watching and listening to gb sunday me, to gb news sunday with me, emily carver. more carver. we've got lots more coming today's an coming up on today's show. an anti rally is taking anti racism rally is taking place in scotland. demonstrate leaders are calling for an all out to. we'll be live out opposition to. we'll be live in thurston with the latest . how in thurston with the latest. how many there are in scotland? we'll find out. but first, it's the news with bethany elsey .

the news with bethany elsey. emily, thank you. here's your latest headlines from the newsroom at 235. opposition leaders are calling for an investigation after it emerged the home secretary tried to avoid incurring points on her driving licence for speeding last summer. the sunday times reports suella braverman asked a civil servant to organise a 1 to 1 driving awareness course instead. shadow home secretary yvette cooper described the allegations as shocking, saying ms braverman's role is to uphold the law , and yet she abused her the law, and yet she abused her position to get around it . on position to get around it. on the final day of the g7 summit in japan, world leaders have set out their plans to tackle aggression from china . the prime aggression from china. the prime minister, rishi sunak, said beijing poses the biggest challenge to global security, being the only country with both the means and intent to reshape world order . the president of world order. the president of ukraine has addressed world leaders at the g7 summit, saying he's confident kyivs peace formula has the potential to

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.uk now and place your vote gb wewe— .uk now and place your vote gb news britain's— .uk now and place your vote gb news britain's news . channel news britain's news. channel vee- — news britain's news. channel vee- weteene— news britain's news. channel t/ti;5 i i you're yes. welcome back. you're watching and— t/ti;5 i i you're watching and listening to gb wewe— watching and listening to gb wewe swntaw— watching and listening to gb news sunday with me, emily carver— news sunday with me, emily carver en— news sunday with me, emily carver en wewr— news sunday with me, emily carver on your tv and radio. so tne— carver on your tv and radio. so tne wtne— carver on your tv and radio. so the prime minister— carver on your tv and radio. so the prime minister has promised to the prime minister has promised te ewt— the prime minister has promised te ewt ne— the prime minister has promised to put new guardrails in place to put new guardrails in place te ereteet— to put new guardrails in place te ereteet tne— to put new guardrails in place to protect the uk— to put new guardrails in place to protect the uk against eetenttat— to protect the uk against potential dangers of artificial tntetttgenee— potential dangers of artificial intelligence .— potential dangers of artificial intelligence . s— potential dangers of artificial intelligence . s guardrails are intelligence. s guardrails are to intelligence. s guardrails are te te— intelligence. s guardrails are te te ewt— intelligence. s guardrails are te te ewt tn— intelligence. s guardrails are to be put in place to maximise the to be put in place to maximise tne tenettte— to be put in place to maximise the benefits of— to be put in place to maximise the benefits of artificial intelligence _ the benefits of artificial intelligence while minimising the intelligence while minimising tne ttete— intelligence while minimising tne rtete te— intelligence while minimising the risks to society . that's the risks to society. that's wnat— the risks to society. that's wnat tttent — the risks to society. that's what rishi sunak has said he eawe— what rishi sunak has said he eawe nrttatn— what rishi sunak has said he says britain needs to constantly wetate— says britain needs to constantly wetate at— says britain needs to constantly update ai regulations to keep up wttn— update ai regulations to keep up we tne— update ai regulations to keep up with the evolving— update ai regulations to keep up with the evolving tech nology. so with the evolving tech nology. se tetntng— with the evolving tech nology. se tetntng ne— with the evolving tech nology. so joining me in— with the evolving tech nology. so joining me in the studio is terner— so joining me in the studio is former special— so joining me in the studio is former special adviser to the wtne— former special adviser to the prime minister— former special adviser to the prime minister ,— former special adviser to the prime minister , shabir merali. prime minister, shabir merali. tnant— prime minister, shabir merali. tnant wew— prime minister, shabir merali. tnant wew wew— prime minister, shabir merali. thank you very much, shabir. i an — thank you very much, shabir. i an etantng— thank you very much, shabir. i an etantng te— thank you very much, shabir. i am starting to look at artificial— am starting to look at artificial intelligence . i'm artificial intelligence. i'm etantng— artificial intelligence. i'm etantng te— artificial intelligence. i'm starting to become more concerned. i've- starting to become more concerned. i've seen in many of tne— concerned. i've seen in many of tne ttg— concerned. i've seen in many of tne ttg gwwe— concerned. i've seen in many of tne ttg gwwe tn— concerned. i've seen in many of the big guys in tech, you know, the big guys in tech, you know, tne wen— the big guys in tech, you know, the elon musk's_ the big guys in tech, you know, the elon musk's and others

eentng— the elon musk's and others eentng ewt— the elon musk's and others coming out to— the elon musk's and others coming out to warn us that it eewtt— coming out to warn us that it eewtt te— coming out to warn us that it eewtt we a— coming out to warn us that it could be a little— coming out to warn us that it could be a little bit dangerous. wew— could be a little bit dangerous. wew werrtet— could be a little bit dangerous. how worried should we be? yeah, tnante— how worried should we be? yeah, tnante .— how worried should we be? yeah, tnante . tnttw. — how worried should we be? yeah, thanks , emily. i— how worried should we be? yeah, thanks , emily. thanks, emily. i think i think you're absolutely right that a lot of the luminaries in artificial artificial intelligence have been coming out in recent weeks and talking about that about the big risks that we face. think think there face. and i think i think there is spectrum of views the is a spectrum of views in the community. are community. you know, there are those of fairly those who are sort of fairly alarmist think there are alarmist and think there are real existential are real existential risks that are coming might coming coming and they might be coming very there are those very soon. and there are those that actually quite very soon. and there are those tha away actually quite very soon. and there are those tha away from actually quite very soon. and there are those tha away from that. ually quite very soon. and there are those tha away from that. and quite very soon. and there are those tha away from that. and we ite far away from that. and we should be worried at this should be so worried at this stage. i think general stage. i think the general consensus stage. i think the general consthere is a risk and if you that there is a risk and if you think about what the impact of that could be, suggests that risk could be, it suggests we probably something we should probably do something about the risk is about it, even if the risk is very small. talking about about it, even if the risk is very squite talking about about it, even if the risk is very squite harmfullking about about it, even if the risk is very squite harmful effects)out about it, even if the risk is very squite harmful effects fort some quite harmful effects for society. need to be society. and so we do need to be thinking we thinking about this and we probably need acting on probably do need to be acting on this we probably need to act this and we probably need to act fast. yeah, because as a lot of tne— fast. yeah, because as a lot of tne teewe— fast. yeah, because as a lot of tne teeweltne— fast. yeah, because as a lot of the focus-the risks- yeah, because as a lot of the focus the risks has been the focus on the risks has been on the focus on the risks has been en-enangee- the focus on the risks has been en-enangee te- the focus on the risks has been on-changes to the. on potential changes to the tatewr—eeeetel on potential changes to the. labour—people will on potential changes to the. labojobs-people will on potential changes to the labo jobs as people will on potential changes to the labo jobs as a people will on potential changes to the labo jobs as a resultteople will on potential changes to the labo jobs as a result ofple will on potential changes to the labo jobs as a result of robotill lose jobs as a result of robo its lose jobs as a result of robo tte at— lose jobs as a result of robo tte at tetng— lose jobs as a result of robo its ai being able— lose jobs as a result of robo its ai being able to do their tetn— its ai being able to do their tewe-nene- its ai being able to do their jobs more cheaply, more jobs better, more cheaply, more etttetenttw— jobs better, more cheaply, more efficiently. _worry i efficiently. that is one worry tnat— efficiently. that is one worry tnat-get— efficiently. that is one worry that-get onto.- efficiently. that is one worry that get onto. we that we can get onto. we can

tteewee. — that we can get onto. we can tteewee. .my_ that we can get onto. we can discuss. .my worry- that we can get onto. we can discuss. my worry is bigger discuss. but my worry is bigger tnan— discuss. but my worry is bigger tnan tnat. — discuss. but my worry is bigger than that. the— discuss. but my worry is bigger than that. the fact that these eete— than that. the fact that these tete tearn— than that. the fact that these bots learn an— than that. the fact that these bots learn an exponentially and we entw— bots learn an exponentially and we entw tearn— bots learn an exponentially and we only learn in— bots learn an exponentially and we only learn in a— bots learn an exponentially and we only learn in a linear way. wean.— we only learn in a linear way. wean. tne— we only learn in a linear way. yeah. the reason— we only learn in a linear way. yeah. the reason that we're at tne— yeah. the reason that we're at tne tee— yeah. the reason that we're at tne tee et— yeah. the reason that we're at tne tee et tne— yeah. the reason that we're at the top of the food chain as it were, is because— the top of the food chain as it were, is because we're the most tntetttgent— were, is because we're the most intelligent species. _ were, is because we're the most intelligent species. robots come ateng— intelligent species. robots come ateng twe— intelligent species. robots come along like this— intelligent species. robots come along like this-on- intelligent species. robots come along like this on the on along like this one on the on tne— along like this one on the on tne-eaeen— along like this one on the on tneleereen .— along like this one on the on the-screen , more- along like this one on the on the screen , more intelligent the tv screen, more intelligent tnan— the tv screen, more intelligent tnan-wnat— the tv screen, more intelligent than what happens then? than us. what happens then? wean.— than us. what happens then? yeah, absolutely— than us. what happens then? yeah, absolutely . and- than us. what happens then? “cir?" oily and if you yeah, absolutely. and if you look yeah, absolutely. and if you teet at— yeah, absolutely. and if you teet at tne— yeah, absolutely. and if you look at the trend— yeah, absolutely. and if you look at the trend ,- “cir?" oily and if you look at the trend , look at look at the trend, look at wnatte— look at the trend, look at what's happened in the last 24 nentne— what's happened in the last 24 months development , you months in al development, you knew.— months in al development, you tnew-tewn— months in al development, you know,-four, which- months in al development, you know, four, which out a know, gpt four, which came out a eewete— know, gpt four, which came out a ewwe—age.— know, gpt four, which came out a eewete—age. ean- couple of months ago, can eenern— couple of months ago, can perform-across- couple of months ago, can perform across basically perform better across basically all perform better across basically att-tnan— perform better across basically all-than about- perform better across basically all than about 90% of all exams than about 90% of anertean— all exams than about 90% of american school. american high school. just exetatn— american high school. just wetate—tel american high school. just- explain_is. yeah, explain what chat gtp is. yeah, so gpt is a that so chat gpt is a tool that eeenat — so chat gpt is a tool that openai came— so chat gpt is a tool that openai came out with, which so chat gpt is a tool that openai came outwith, which is a openai came out with, which is a enat— openai came out with, which is a enat tet— openai came out with, which is a chat bot which— openai came out with, which is a chat bot which you— openai came outwith, which is a chat bot which you can interact wttn— chat bot which you can interact wttn ae— chat bot which you can interact wttn ae a— chat bot which you can interact with as a user.— chat bot which you can interact with as a user. you— chat bot which you can interact with as a user. you can ask it gweettene— with as a user. you can ask it gweettene tt— with as a user. you can ask it questions, it can— with as a user. you can ask it questions, it can come up with, you— questions, it can come up with, wew—eetwttenel questions, it can come up with, you—solutions. it. you know, advice solutions. it tatte— you know, advice solutions. it tatte-tt— you know, advice solutions. it tatte-tt a- you know, advice solutions. it talks-if a natural. talks to you as if a natural nwnan— talks to you as if a natural human word. _ talks to you as if a natural human word. .on- talks to you as if a natural human word. “tit“ i ”ii; i“ human word. it's on screen there. it's quite— human word. c “tit“ 5ti.iti;ti;“ c“ti;iti; it's quite remarkable. there. it's quite remarkable. rean— there. it's quite remarkable. wean-wae— there. it's quite remarkable. wean-wae a— there. it's quite remarkable. yeah-was a child- c“ti;iti; it's quite remarkable. yeah was a child still in yeah if i was a child still in eeneet— yeah if i was a child still in eeneetlat— yeah if i was a child still in school at university , i would school or at university, i would eenatntw— school or at university, i would eenatntw te— school or at university, i would certainly be using— school or at university, i would certainly be using it to help me wttn— certainly be using it to help me with - homework. _ certainly be using it to help me with-homework. - certainly be using it to help me with-homework. i- certainly be using it to help me with homework. with my homework. i think. i tntet— with my homework. i think. i tntnt a— with my homework. i think. i think a lot of people are at and know it is disrupting education.

it is disrupting legal services, it is disrupting software coding. it is coding. you know, it is disrupting the disrupting industries across the board. where board. and that's just where we're let's give it we're at. so let's give it another 12 months. you know, there was about $11 billion invested in artificial general intelligence invested in artificial general intelthreeie invested in artificial general intelthree :e of year. first three months of this year. everyone into the everyone is piling into the industry. going to industry. there's going to be a lot money. there's going lot more money. there's going to be and that be a lot more compute. and that will the development the will mean the development of the models continue models will continue to continue to they do, the to increase. and as they do, the capabilities might might start getting scary. now, getting quite scary. now, i don't want to getting quite scary. now, ii don't—want to be getting quite scary. now, i. don't—want to be a don't want to be want to be a twtttte— don't want to be want to be a twtttte-t— don't want to be want to be a luddite-i know- don't want to be want to be a luddite i know when the luddite because i know when the ertnttng— luddite because i know when the ertnttng ereee— luddite because i know when the printing press came along, eeeete— printing press came along, eeeete eat.— printing press came along, people said, oh, this is going to people said, oh, this is going te-tete— people said, oh, this is going to _jobs because- people said, oh, this is going to jobs because people to destroy jobs because people weet— to destroy jobs because people used-manually— to destroy jobs because people used manually input every used to manually input every tetter— used to manually input every tetter .— used to manually input every tetter . wean.— used to manually input every letter . yeah. when the letter. yeah. and when the eenewter— letter. yeah. and when the computer came— letter. yeah. and when the computer came along, people eat.— computer came along, people eat. on— computer came along, people eat. on ne— computer came along, people said, oh no, this— computer came along, people said, oh no, this is going to be tne— said, oh no, this is going to be tne ent— said, oh no, this is going to be tne ent et— said, oh no, this is going to be the end of various— said, oh no, this is going to be the end of various jobs. et cetera— the end of various jobs. et eetera tt— the end of various jobs. et cetera. et cetera. but every tne— cetera. et cetera. but every ttne we— cetera. et cetera. but every time we have— cetera. et cetera. but every time we have an- cetera. et cetera. but every time we have an advancement in teetnetegw— time we have an advancement in teennetegw. tt— time we have an advancement in technology, it does— time we have an advancement in technology, it does seem as tnewgn— technology, it does seem as though opportunities are though more opportunities are ereatet— though more opportunities are ereatet tnan— though more opportunities are created than taken away eetenttattw— created than taken away eetenttattw .— created than taken away potentially . do you think ai potentially. do you think ai wttt— potentially. do you think ai wttt te— potentially. do you think ai will be different? “cir?" potentially. do you think ai will be different? / will be different? yeah. so i tttnt— will be different? yeah. so i tntnt t— will be different? yeah. so i think i think there is a strong argument to say this time actually is different. oh, gosh , there you go. me trying to be

eettntette— , there you go. me trying to be eettntette. — , there you go. me trying to be optimistic . and— , there you go. me trying to be optimistic. and i— , there you go. me trying to be optimistic. and i think- , there you go. me trying to be optimistic. and i think i- , there you go. me trying to be optimistic. and i think i think there's a few reasons for that. i think, as you rightly say, artificial intelligence will create new jobs. just that just as all technologies in the past have. and there will be all sorts of careers and professions that know about that we don't even know about today exist in the today which will exist in the next that's the next few years. that's the optimistic and there will optimistic case. and there will be created. but at the be new jobs created. but at the same time, it's pretty clear that to lose jobs. that we are going to lose jobs. and, we've seen and, you know, we've seen reports, think reports, you know, i think i think the bt announced this week they're going 55,000 jobs they're going to cut 55,000 jobs by the decade with by the end of the decade with about of them to due to about 20% of them due to due to ai. you know, that's the ai. you know, that's just the start. be lots start. there's going to be lots of at their of companies looking at their workforces looking at ways workforces and looking at ways that can automate and that they can automate and augment processes with al as opposed as opposed to humans. so there's a challenge. there's going to be a challenge. you know, it's not all doom says, unemployment says, you know, unemployment is not just going to rapidly spike overnight, think there is overnight, but i think there is a might start a real risk that we might start to in the near to see job losses in the near future. and we need to be thinking about and we need thinking about that and we need to about how adapt to to think about how we adapt to that yes, because that as a society. yes, because _reeeeantee- we've seen companies like bt, waen-t— we've seen companies like bt, waentt-nawe— we've seen companies like bt, wasn't-have said- we've seen companies like bt, wasn't have said 10,000, wasn't it, who have said 10,000, 20,000— wasn't it, who have said 10,000, eenee-te— wasn't it, who have said 10,000, eenee-tee en- wasn't it, who have said 10,000, 20,000-be on the - 20,000 jobs will be on the eeraeneae—

20,000 jobs will be on the eeraeneae-et- 20,000 jobs will be on the scrapheap-of al,l 20,000 jobs will be on the scrapheap of ai, but scrapheap because of ai, but atreatw— scrapheap because of ai, but we're already seeing ai implemented these implemented in so many of these eewteee— implemented in so many of these eetrnee—tnew- implemented in so many of these eewteee—tnew .- implemented in so many of these services know , when it services. take you know, when it te— services. take you know, when it te enene— services. take you know, when it comes to phone customer services or, comes to phone customer services wew— comes to phone customer services wew tnew.— comes to phone customer services or, you know, whatever customer eewtee — or, you know, whatever customer eewtee tt— or, you know, whatever customer eewtee tt te— or, you know, whatever customer eewtee tt te wew— or, you know, whatever customer service it is, you now have a ttttte— service it is, you now have a ttttte enat— service it is, you now have a little chat box— service it is, you now have a little chat box when you go onto the little chat box when you go onto tne wetette— little chat box when you go onto the website and— little chat box when you go onto the website and some are netetwt— the website and some are helpful, some— the website and some are helpful, some are not so helpful for helpful, some are not so helpful ter new— helpful, some are not so helpful ter .— helpful, some are not so helpful ter . t— helpful, some are not so helpful for now , i think— helpful, some are not so helpful for now , i think people do for now, i think people do enter— for now, i think people do ereter te— for now, i think people do prefer to speak- for now, i think people do prefer to speak to a human being wnen— prefer to speak to a human being wnen tnere-e— prefer to speak to a human being wnen tnere-e a— prefer to speak to a human being when there's a massive problem tnat— when there's a massive problem tnat tnew— when there's a massive problem tnat tnew-rean— when there's a massive problem that they yeah, but for that they face. yeah, but for gwtte— that they face. yeah, but for gwtteltet— that they face. yeah, but for quitellotlthings,- that they face. yeah, but for. quitellotlthings,-bots quite a lot of things, chat bots are-weetwt— quite a lot of things, chat bots are-weetwt .— quite a lot of things, chat bots are-useful , but- quite a lot of things, chat bots are useful, but that's are quite useful, but that's entw— are quite useful, but that's entw-ttnw— are quite useful, but that's only-bny part- are quite useful, but that's only tiny part of isn't only one tiny part of ai isn't it? only one tiny part of ai isn't tte rean— only one tiny part of ai isn't it? yeah, yeah,— only one tiny part of ai isn't it? yeah, yeah, absolutely. tnat-e— it? yeah, yeah, absolutely. that's-narrow- it? yeah, yeah, absolutely. that's-narrow use. it? yeah, yeah, absolutely. i that's-narrow use case that's a very narrow use case and those chat bots are improving time. think improving over time. but i think what to see is what we're starting to see is that i could start taking jobs in just that i could start taking jobs in thought just that i could start taking jobs in thought before.ist that i could start taking jobs in thought before. so even never thought of before. so even if you look it up to a few years ago, your traditional model of automation would be anything that sort that is routine and you can sort of program to do. you can get a robot it. we're now robot to replace it. we're now looking that very looking at tasks that are very creative commentators creative political commentators and gb news presenters. we could be we could be bots.— and gb news presenters. we could be we could be bots. i— 5“t: cl a we could be we could be bots. i wonder if our viewers would _ be we could be bots. i wonder if our viewers would prefer that i tntnt— our viewers would prefer that i new att— our viewers would prefer that i think all sorts— our viewers would prefer that i think all sorts of— our viewers would prefer that i think all sorts of media, you tnew.— think all sorts of media, you know, newspaper— think all sorts of media, you know, newspaper writers, graphic teetgnere— designers, software coders, tneee— designers, software coders, tneee are— designers, software coders,

these are all— designers, software coders, these are all-of- these are all types of professions- these are all types of professions where, you know, a tew— professions where, you know, a tew wean— professions where, you know, a tew weare age— professions where, you know, a tew weare age wew— professions where, you know, a few years ago you would never nave—a- few years ago you would never. nave—a-et have thought there was a risk of reetaeenent— have thought there was a risk of replacement, whereas actually we're now looking at the teennetegw.— technology, getting to a place wnere— technology, getting to a place where-actually- technology, getting to a place where actually replace where it could actually replace some _creativity. - where it could actually replace some creativity. some of that creativity. so i tntet— some of that creativity. so i tntnt t— some of that creativity. so i think i think— some of that creativity. so i think i think will be think i think it will be a challenge, at the same time, challenge, but at the same time, it can also enhance productivity, creative productivity, enhance creative output. so of both output. so it sort of works both ways. now the ways. now let's get into the gweetten— ways. now let's get into the. question—because question of regulation, because geernente— question of regulation, because governments-too- question of regulation, because governments too slow to governments can be too slow to act wnen — governments can be too slow to act wnen tt— governments can be too slow to act when it comes— governments can be too slow to act when it comes to regulating new-nt— act when it comes to regulating new industry and new technologies, then new industry and new— technologies,-then sometimes technologies, but then sometimes tnew— technologies, but then sometimes tnew-teet— technologies, but then sometimes tnew-feet tne— technologies, but then sometimes they feel the pressure and they can feel the pressure and regwtate— they can feel the pressure and regwtate tee— they can feel the pressure and regulate too much and go ewerteart— regulate too much and go overboard when it comes to regwtatten— overboard when it comes to regulation and— overboard when it comes to regulation and end up creating more problems— regulation and end up creating more problems than there ever were. absolutely.— more problems than there ever were. absolutely. i- more problems than there ever were. absolutely. i i- more problems than there ever were. ' 0175ng were. absolutely. i ithink that's especially a risk here because the technology is moving so quickly . so, you know, so quickly. so, you know, governments are notoriously slow at catching up with the of at catching up with the pace of technology and, you know, regulating pace. but regulating at a pace. but i think it's especially difficult here moving by here when things are moving by the the the week or sort of by the month. know, how does the month. you know, how does the government adapt, i think, to draw conversation back draw the conversation back to what we were talking about earlier, of the earlier, about sort of the existential the big existential risks and the big risks safety. risks within ai safety. these are which are huge topics which governments need be

governments just just need to be interacting need interacting with and need to have a have a sort of a say in the so to speak. and the game, so to speak. and i think, you know, despite the fact sort fact that government is sort of typically we'll need to typically slow and we'll need to consult and sort of think about wider stakeholders, on wider stakeholders, etcetera, on some of those big issues, it's going act relatively going to need to act relatively soon moving at a soon because we're moving at a pace whereby y you know, we can't afford wait a few years can't afford to wait a few years to a whole bunch of to do a whole bunch of consultations through consultations and think through the then regulate the outcomes and then regulate something the outcomes and then regulate som already too far just already gone way too far already. so governments will already. so, so governments will need act nimbly. they'll need to act more nimbly. they'll need to act more nimbly. they'll need faster and need to think, think faster and think we'll need to think smarter. and we'll need to get expertise into the get real expertise into the heart government well. i heart of government as well. i mean, you know, mean, that's that's, you know, _eaetertene- mean, that's that's, you know, easier-done, isn't. easier said than done, isn't it? a ntntete— easier said than done, isn't it? a nimble government. what easier said than done, isn't it? a rlikele government. what easier said than done, isn't it? a rlikele 1see.'nment. what easier said than done, isn't it? a rlikele tsee. butent. what easier said than done, isn't it? a rlikele tsee. but that's what easier said than done, isn't it? a rlikele tsee. but that's the what i'd like to see. but that's the trearn — i'd like to see. but that's the trearn itee— i'd like to see. but that's the dream.-too much,- i'd like to see. but that's the dream. too much, too much dream. it's too much, too much tweaweraew— dream. it's too much, too much tweaweraew tee— dream. it's too much, too much bureaucracy too and many, you tnew.— know, consultations on absolutely— know, consultations on atgettetw— know, consultations on ab get anything done. one thing to get anything done. one thing tnat— to get anything done. one thing tnat tn— to get anything done. one thing tnat ttn werw— to get anything done. one thing that i'm very about just that i'm very worried about just wew—weaeene- that i'm very worried about just wew—weaeene .- that i'm very worried about just very weapons . now, very quickly, ai weapons. now, we— very quickly, ai weapons. now, we teen— very quickly, ai weapons. now, i've been reading— very quickly, ai weapons. now, i've been reading about this. tnte— i've been reading about this. this-potentially- this could potentially facilitate, _ this could potentially- facilitate, - genocide. facilitate, facilitate genocide. if facilitate, facilitate genocide. ttwew— facilitate, facilitate genocide. tt wew ewt— facilitate, facilitate genocide. tt wew ewt tnte— facilitate, facilitate genocide. if you put into a— facilitate, facilitate genocide. if you put into a weapon of ewetee— if you put into a weapon of enetee e— if you put into a weapon of choice 0 kill— if you put into a weapon of choice 0 kill every man under tne— choice 0 kill every man under tne age— choice 0 kill every man under tne age et— choice 0 kill every man under tne age et 25— choice 0 kill every man under the age of 25 or— choice 0 kill every man under the age of 25 or whatever. and it the age of 25 or whatever. and tt twet— the age of 25 or whatever. and tt twet teee— the age of 25 or whatever. and tt twet teee tt— the age of 25 or whatever. and it just does it no— the age of 25 or whatever. and it just does it no off switch neeeeearttw— it just does it no off switch necessarily because it's now

more intelligent— necessarily because it's now more intelligent than you. is tnat— more intelligent than you. is tnat te— more intelligent than you. is tnat te tnat— more intelligent than you. is that is that fear— more intelligent than you. is that is that fear mongering for t— that is that fear mongering for t ten-t— that is that fear mongering for me, i don't want— that is that fear mongering for me, i don't want people at home to me, i don't want people at home te te— me, i don't want people at home to be absolutely,— me, i don't want people at home to be absolutely, you know, eaet— to be absolutely, you know, scared witless. _ to be absolutely, you know, scared witless. this, you scared witless. but this, you tnew.— scared witless. but this, you tnew-naeeew- scared witless. but this, you know, happen, right? know, it could happen, right? wean.— know, it could happen, right? wean. _tnew.- know, it could happen, right? . yeah. _ know, - risk yeah. i mean, you know, the risk at moment isn't isn't that at the moment isn't isn't that high. i think absolutely high. but i think absolutely right. you know, if you're looking at hypothetical scenarios future. scenarios in the future. absolutely. experts absolutely. and a lot of experts are worried about are sort of quite worried about the ai systems are the fact that al systems are being embedded across industries, including defence. as rightly mentioned industries, including defence. aand rightly mentioned industries, including defence. aand other rightly mentioned industries, including defence. aand other areas. ltly mentioned industries, including defence. aand other areas. and nentioned industries, including defence. aand other areas. and iftntioned industries, including defence. aand other areas. and iftnticget , and other areas. and if we get to one day where to a point one day where suddenly can't control suddenly we can't control the technology, know, it takes a technology, you know, it takes a different of different route or sort of slightly if it's slightly goes rogue if it's embedded in these technologies, who happen with embedded in these technologies, whso, happen with embedded in these technologies, whso, so happen with embedded in these technologies, whso, so not happen with embedded in these technologies, whso, so not a happen with embedded in these technologies, whso, so not a worry happen with embedded in these technologies, whso, so not a worry fortpen with it. so, so not a worry for today, but definitely a worry for the future. and we should be thinking it. lots to worry thinking about it. lots to worry about thinking about it. lots to worry atewt-vewtwe— thinking about it. lots to worry about-you've-getting| about now. you've been getting in about now. you've been getting tnew—r- about now. you've been getting tnew—r ttgl in touch at home on our big teete— in touch at home on our big teen-taw— in touch at home on our big topic-day, suella- topic of the day, suella braverman— topic of the day, suella braverman speeding ticket. rao ttaenet— braverman speeding ticket. rao ttaenw—eeen- rachel said, doesn't seem a ereetee— rachel said, doesn't seem a erettenlene— rachel said, doesn't seem a problem she just asked problem if she just asked advice if problem if she just asked advice tt—etrtnge- problem if she just asked advice tt—etrtnge te- problem if she just asked advice if_strings to be. if she asked for strings to be ewttet— if she asked for strings to be pulled,-would- if she asked for strings to be pulled, would be different pulled, that would be different . wett— pulled, that would be different . wett tnat— pulled, that would be different . well, that guess, is why . well, that i guess, is why eeeete— . well, that i guess, is why eeeete-eatttng- . well, that i guess, is why people calling an people are calling for an tngwtrw— people are calling for an inquiry-find- people are calling for an inquiry find exactly people are calling for an- inquiry .find-exactly what inquiry to find out exactly what getng— inquiry to find out exactly what getng-tna— inquiry to find out exactly what was going lisa has to say was going on. lisa has to say eatnette— was going on. lisa has to say pathetic smear— was going on. lisa has to say pathetic smear campaign . she pathetic smear campaign. she waen-t— pathetic smear campaign. she waen-t aettng— pathetic smear campaign. she wasn't asking how to avoid paying— wasn't asking how to avoid eawtng tne— wasn't asking how to avoid paying the fine— wasn't asking how to avoid paying the fine or taking the

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britain since the 16th century ant wttn— britain since the 16th century ant we to— britain since the 16th century and with 10 million cups drunk ewew— and with 10 million cups drunk ewerw taw— and with 10 million cups drunk ewerw taw tn— and with 10 million cups drunk ewerw taw tn tne— and with 10 million cups drunk every day in the uk, it's eenatntw— every day in the uk, it's eenatntw a— every day in the uk, it's certainly a popular beverage and tea production. _ certainly a popular beverage and tea production. so— certainly a popular beverage and tea production. so important that the un designated . the 21st that the un designated. the 21st of may as international tea day . to tie in with this, the latest tea census found almost a quarter of brits drink five cups or more every day . 77% favoured or more every day. 77% favoured black tea and 54% rated taste as the top reason for drinking tea . but why is tea so trendy ? a . but why is tea so trendy? a big part of the work that- big part of the work that we do at tne— big part of the work that we do at tne tea— big part of the work that we do at the tea and— big part of the work that we do at the tea and infusions association— at the tea and infusions association is- at the tea and infusions association is to promote tea ant— association is to promote tea ant te— association is to promote tea and to encourage— association is to promote tea and to encourage people to drink tea ant— and to encourage people to drink tea ant wew— and to encourage people to drink tea and you know,— and to encourage people to drink tea and you know, we talked atewt— tea and you know, we talked atewt tne— tea and you know, we talked about the well—being benefits of trtnttng— about the well—being benefits of trtnttng tea— about the well—being benefits of drinking tea, taking a break, retwetng— drinking tea, taking a break, retwetng wewr— drinking tea, taking a break, reducing your anxiety. but tea is reducing your anxiety. but tea te atee— reducing your anxiety. but tea te atee eaetet— reducing your anxiety. but tea is also packed full of health benefits as well. so it's a great eat drink to introduce into your diet if you're not doing that already. and those health benefits— doing that already. and those health benefits ,— doing that already. and those health benefits , you- t:tit “t; : and those health benefits , you can find health benefits, you can find tnen — health benefits, you can find tnen tn— health benefits, you can find them in black— health benefits, you can find them in black tea and green tea. tnere-e—

them in black tea and green tea. tnere-e eeteng— them in black tea and green tea. there's oolong tea,— them in black tea and green tea. there's oolong tea, you- them in black tea and green tea. there's oolong tea, you know, all different types of teas. and i'd recommend people just get out there and try them. it's places like the georgian tea rooms in bridlington that are keeping the british tradition of afternoon tea alive. i think the joy afternoon tea alive. i think the joy of afternoon tea alive. i think the tew et a— afternoon tea alive. i think the tew et a tea— afternoon tea alive. i think the joy of a tea rooms— afternoon tea alive. i think the joy of a tea rooms is- afternoon tea alive. i think the joy of a tea rooms is it's- i“ i think the joy of a tea rooms is it's just a ttttte— joy of a tea rooms is it's just a ttttte ttt— joy of a tea rooms is it's just a little bit of— joy of a tea rooms is it's just a little bit of escapism from ewerwtaw— a little bit of escapism from ewerwtaw wte— a little bit of escapism from ewerwtaw ttte .— a little bit of escapism from everyday life . people come in everyday life. people come in were— everyday life. people come in were ae— everyday life. people come in here as an experience . they come here as an experience. they come in here as an experience. they come tn ter— here as an experience. they come tn ter atterneen— here as an experience. they come in for afternoon teas— here as an experience. they come in for afternoon teas and it's a eert— in for afternoon teas and it's a een et— in for afternoon teas and it's a een et a— in for afternoon teas and it's a sort of a slower— in for afternoon teas and it's a sort of a slower pace of life wttn— sort of a slower pace of life with yorkshire _ sort of a slower pace of life with yorkshire being named as the with yorkshire being named as tne regten— with yorkshire being named as the region with— with yorkshire being named as the region with the most tea trtnten. — the region with the most tea drinkers. it's— the region with the most tea drinkers. it's not- the region with the most tea drinkers. c “t; drinkers. it's not surprising that so many cups are sold here. we do a wide selection of teas , we do a wide selection of teas, we do fruit teas, we do herbal teas. but the winner is all was tne— teas. but the winner is all was tne geet— teas. but the winner is all was tne geet ett— but the winner is all was the good old yorkshire tea atwawe— the good old yorkshire tea atwawe. t— the good old yorkshire tea always. i think— the good old yorkshire tea always. i think it's just eatntng— always. i think it's just calming. it's- always. i think it's just calming. it's refreshing in eeeete— calming. it's refreshing in eeeete ewrew— calming. it's refreshing in people enjoy it. the first thing on people enjoy it. the first thing en tne— people enjoy it. the first thing on the morning— people enjoy it. the first thing on the morning or— people enjoy it. the first thing on the morning or when they've nat— on the morning or when they've nat a— on the morning or when they've nat a teng— on the morning or when they've had a long walk— on the morning or when they've had a long walk exploring and tnew— had a long walk exploring and tnew ee— had a long walk exploring and tnew ant— had a long walk exploring and they come and they sit and enjoy a tee— they come and they sit and enjoy a ewe— they come and they sit and enjoy a ewe et— they come and they sit and enjoy a nice cup of yorkshire tea . a nice cup of yorkshire tea. ant— a nice cup of yorkshire tea. ant ter— a nice cup of yorkshire tea. ant ter tne— a nice cup of yorkshire tea. and for the customers- a nice cup of yorkshire tea.

and for the customers tea is part of their daily routine . part of their daily routine. and that's the drink my go to tnnt— and that's the drink my go to trtnt tn— and that's the drink my go to trtnt tn tne— and that's the drink my go to drink in the morning. it refreshes,— drink in the morning. it refreshes, it— drink in the morning. it refreshes, it wakes you up and eete— refreshes, it wakes you up and eete wew— refreshes, it wakes you up and eete wew we— refreshes, it wakes you up and eete wew we ter— refreshes, it wakes you up and sets you up for the day. you knew.— sets you up for the day. you knew tt— sets you up for the day. you know, if you're _ sets you up for the day. you know, if you're feeling a little bit groggy— know, if you're feeling a little bit groggy sort_ know, if you're feeling a little bit groggy, sort of, you know, twet— bit groggy, sort of, you know, twet-wew— bit groggy, sort of, you know, twet-wew tnat- bit groggy, sort of, you know, just you that time to you just gives you that time to you nett— just gives you that time to you new tne— just gives you that time to you boil the kettle.— just gives you that time to you boil the kettle. a— just gives you that time to you boil the kettle. a bit of mindfulness- boil the kettle. a bit of mindfulness ,- boil the kettle. a bit of mindfulness , you know, you're mindfulness, you know, you're watttng— mindfulness, you know, you're watttng ter— mindfulness, you know, you're watttng ter tw— mindfulness, you know, you're waiting for it, thinking what wewe— waiting for it, thinking what we get— waiting for it, thinking what you've got ahead of the and you've got ahead of the day. and twen— you've got ahead of the day. and tnew—nave- you've got ahead of the day. and tnew—nave wewr- you've got ahead of the day. and then—have your teaj then and then you have your tea ant— then and then you have your tea ant-ntee. — then and then you have your tea ant-ntee. se— then and then you have your tea and-nice. so whether- then and then you have your tea and nice. and it's nice. so whether you favour builder's brew or favour a builder's brew or a milkier mug for many of us, having a cuppa is simple tea riffic. anna riley gb news bridlington well, there we go. nearly a quarter of brits drink wewarte— nearly a quarter of brits drink wewarte et— nearly a quarter of brits drink upwards of five— nearly a quarter of brits drink upwards of five cups of tea a taw. — upwards of five cups of tea a taw. tnat-e— upwards of five cups of tea a day. that's quite— upwards of five cups of tea a day. that's quite extraordinary. tnat-e— day. that's quite extraordinary. tnat-e tt— day. that's quite extraordinary. tnat-e tt ter— day. that's quite extraordinary. that's it for me— day. that's quite extraordinary. that's it for me today. but eteaee— that's it for me today. but eteaee te— that's it for me today. but please do stay— that's it for me today. but please do stay tuned because wana— please do stay tuned because wana te— please do stay tuned because wana te we— please do stay tuned because nana is up next.— please do stay tuned because nana is up next. nana is here wttn— nana is up next. nana is here we we— nana is up next. nana is here we we tn— nana is up next. nana is here with me in the— nana is up next. nana is here with me in the studio. so what nave— with me in the studio. so what nave-get— with me in the studio. so what nave-getltne- with me in the studio. so what have got the show? well, have you got on the show? well, we're—immigration, we're talking about immigration, of we're talking about immigration, et—teete- we're talking about immigration, et—teete. tnel of course. it's a big topic. the new figures out and it seems new figures are out and it seems that we are letting a lot of people in here legally, is people in here legally, which is fine. perhaps fine. but we need to perhaps look at that with bit more look at that with a bit more

restraint. pendants yes. we're also looking at sevilla braverman, should . should braverman, as it should. should rishi back osaka? it's rishi sunak back osaka? it's kind the same thing that kind of the same thing that you're as well. well, we you're asking as well. well, we did and are did ask. yes. and there are ntnet— did ask. yes. and there are mixed mixed— did ask. yes. and there are mixed mixed-i. did ask. yes. and there are- mixed mixed-i wonder mixed mixed opinions. i wonder wnat—wew-tt- mixed mixed opinions. i wonderi what—you'll come what your what side you'll come tewn— what your what side you'll come tewn — what your what side you'll come down on. what— what your what side you'll come down on. what-you- what your what side you'll come down on. what do you think, emily? course i think she's emily? of course i think she's brilliant. she's brilliant, swetta— cc she's brilliant, suella braverman. “

teen— time for this afternoon. you've teen watentng— time for this afternoon. you've been watching and listening to gb been watching and listening to en wewe— been watching and listening to gb news sunday— been watching and listening to gb news sunday with me. emily carver.— gb news sunday with me. emily eawer. tnant— gb news sunday with me. emily carver. thank you— gb news sunday with me. emily carver. thank you so much for tetntng— carver. thank you so much for tetntng ne— carver. thank you so much for tetntng ene tnte— carver. thank you so much for joining me this afternoon. but ten-t— joining me this afternoon. but don't-anywhere.— joining me this afternoon. but don't anywhere. nana is up don't go anywhere. nana is up next.— don't go anywhere. nana is up next. ewt— don't go anywhere. nana is up next. but first,— don't go anywhere. nana is up next. but first, let's take a teet— next. but first, let's take a teet at— next. but first, let's take a look at-weather- next. but first, let's take a. look at-weather-craig next. but first, let's take a- look at-weather-craig . look at the weather with craig. wette— look at the weather with craig. wewe tnere. — look at the weather with craig. hello there. welcome- look at the weather with craig. hello there. welcome to - look at the weather with craig. hello there. welcome to your gb news weather forecast from the met office. i'm craig snell. we're looking to the week met office. i'm craig snell. we're lforing to the week met office. i'm craig snell. we're lfor most to the week met office. i'm craig snell. we're lfor most of to the week met office. i'm craig snell. we're lfor most of us,» the week met office. i'm craig snell. we're lfor most of us, ithe week met office. i'm craig snell. we're lfor most of us, it should( ahead. for most of us, it should be dry some spells be mainly dry with some spells of sunshine. little of of sunshine. a little bit of rain to across rain from time to time across scotland northern ireland scotland and northern ireland and we're scotland and northern ireland and to we're scotland and northern ireland and to the we're scotland and northern ireland and to the weekend. we going to end the weekend. we still this cold front here. still have this cold front here. it will weaken as we head into monday area high monday as this area of high pressure really to pressure really begins to dominate across the united kingdom. before there kingdom. but before we get there , see across northern , you can see it across northern ireland and scotland as we end sunday, probably the most persistent across eastern persistent rain across eastern scotland, where further south across and wales, lots across england and wales, lots of skies around, of clear skies around, especially out towards west. especially out towards the west. but could allow it turn but that could allow it to turn quite chilly. so just like last night, could temperatures night, we could see temperatures as as or 2 degrees across as low as 1 or 2 degrees across some prone spots wales and some prone spots of wales and the midlands. but for most, as we start the new working week, it should be fairly quiet. best of the sunshine will be initially across many western

parts the uk . out towards the parts of the uk. out towards the east we have some low cloud coming in from the north sea . coming in from the north sea. still the risk of the odd spot of too, for eastern of rain too, for eastern scotland. through scotland. but as we go through the the day, most it the course of the day, most it should could see should be dry. could just see the shower across the very the odd shower across the very far north of scotland. but in the sunshine, feeling pleasantly warm, could see highs reaching 23 24 degrees down 23 or possibly 24 degrees down towards south—west but towards the south—west but please high uv levels if please do note high uv levels if you are out and about into the evening. a fine end to the day for most could just see the odd shower across the pennines. but that should they quickly that should they should quickly disappear we head into the disappear as we head into the small hours of tuesday morning. and many , largely clear and for many, largely clear skies will allow another fairly chilly night for the time of yeah chilly night for the time of year. but most towns and cities should hold up around 10 to 11 degrees. so we start tuesday on another sunny note, the exception really the very far north of scotland, where we'll continue to see the risk of some cloud and some outbreaks of rain. and that really continues as we go into wednesday and

thursday. always the best of the sunshine, probably down towards the south and in the sunshine, feeling warm with highs potentially reaching the mid 20s by .

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