a record breaking day. we a record breaking day. net migration— a record breaking day. net migration of— a record breaking day. net migration of 606,000 double what it was pre brexit. and today i am in— it was pre brexit. and today i am in the— it was pre brexit. and today i am in the brexit— c mix c and today i am in the brexit backing capital of britain— am in the brexit backing capital of britain which— am in the brexit backing capital of britain which is— am in the brexit backing capital of britain which is boston in lincolnshire,_ of britain which is boston in lincolnshire, in— of britain which is boston in lincolnshire, in the shadow of a m— lincolnshire, in the shadow of a m century— lincolnshire, in the shadow of a 14th century church which now overlooks— 14th century church which now overlooks on— 14th century church which now overlooks an area— 14th century church which now overlooks an area known locally as foreign— overlooks an area known locally as foreign isles— overlooks an area known locally as foreign isles. _ overlooks an area known locally as foreign isles. ': overlooks an area known locally as foreign isles. ' 2 92: “g as foreign isles. and i'm going to be drilling down into these numbers. boston is a case study of moos— numbers. boston is a case study of mass migration,— boston is a case study of mass migration, rapid demographic— of mass migration, rapid demographic change, a huge influx— demographic change, a huge influx of— demographic change, a huge influx of cheap— demographic change, a huge influx of cheap foreign labour. rm — influx of cheap foreign labour. rm going— influx of cheap foreign labour. rm going oo— influx of cheap foreign labour. rm going to bo— influx of cheap foreign labour. i'm going to be talking- influx of cheap foreign labour. i'm going to be talking to- influx of cheap foreign labour. i'm going to be talking to top tier mps, local politicians , tier mps, local politicians, economic experts, demographic experts as we get to grips with

these latest net migration figures for the net migration special on gb news as. gb news is the people's channel. and today's show is all “ and today's show is all about the peg.— today's show is all about the people ,— today's show is all about the people , lee— today's show is all about the people , the people who voted in people, the people who voted in recoll— people, the people who voted in record numbers— people, the people who voted in record numbers to— people, the people who voted in record numbers to take back control— record numbers to take back control on— record numbers to take back control of our— record numbers to take back control of our borders . ' “2 control of our borders. and loony-s— control of our borders. and today's record _ control of our borders. and today's record numbers show that that absolutely hasn't happened. i want to know whether or not people would back brexit again, whether they let down by whether they feel let down by the conservative they the conservative party. do they trust to do a better trust labour to do a betterjob.7 and frankly , what the reality of and frankly, what the reality of mass migration is to normal, ordinary areas in the uk outside of your big cities. this is patrick christie's- of your big cities. this is patrick christie's for- 2 lg lt. this is patrick christie's for gb news. nel— patrick christie's for gb news. nel nlgnonon— patrick christie's for gb news. net migration special gb views at net migration special gb views ol en— net migration special gb views at on newe— net migration special gb views at gb news .com. _ net migration special gb views at gb news .com. 2c net migration special gb views at gb news .com. 2g net migration special gb views at gb news .com. 22 at gb news .com. i will see you after the headlines . patrick. after the headlines. patrick. thank you. good afternoon. it's 3:01 or top stories from the gb

newsroom. downing street has refused calls for rishi sunak to apologise despite failing to reduce net migration, which has now risen to record levels as ons data shows numbers rose to 606,000 last year. even after repeated government pledges to bnng repeated government pledges to bring overall numbers down. immigration minister robert jenrick says the government is trying to tackle the issue . net trying to tackle the issue. net migration is far too high.- “lg f net migration is far too high. this is migration is far too high. this le ploelng— migration is far too high. this is placing intolerable pressure on penne— is placing intolerable pressure on public services, on housing supply— on public services, on housing enpply onl— on public services, on housing enpply one on— on public services, on housing supply and our ability to negate— supply and our ability to integrate people into our country.— integrate people into our eonnln. pne— integrate people into our country. the conservative party noe— country. the conservative party nee mole— country. the conservative party nee mole o— country. the conservative party has made a promise to reduce net nlgnonon— has made a promise to reduce net nlgnonon onl— has made a promise to reduce net migration and we're— has made a promise to reduce net migration and we're absolutely lelennlneo— migration and we're absolutely determined to— migration and we're absolutely determined to do— migration and we're absolutely determined to do that. well, we've made a very significant lnlenennon— we've made a very significant intervention this— we've made a very significant intervention this week, which nlll— intervention this week, which nlll mole— intervention this week, which nlll mole o— intervention this week, which will make a tangible difference neonelng— will make a tangible difference nelnelng one— will make a tangible difference reducing the number of student lepenoenle— reducing the number of student dependents that— reducing the number of student dependents that come to our universities— universities because universities- universities because universities should be the universities should be in the eoneonon— universities should be in the education business, not the lnnlgnonon— education business, not the immigration business. 2 immigration business. shadow lnnlgnnnon— immigration business. shadow immigration minister stephen kinnock, though, says government policy is to blame for the rise

in numbers. numbers are too high, they need to come down. the reason they've lost control is the reason they've lost control le peeonee— the reason they've lost control is because they— the reason they've lost control is because they failed to do enough— is because they failed to do enough lo— is because they failed to do enough to invest in skills and talent— enough to invest in skills and talent onl— enough to invest in skills and talent and career— enough to invest in skills and talent and career development nee— talent and career development nene ln— talent and career development nene ln one— talent and career development here in the uk.— talent and career development here in the uk. so— talent and career development here in the uk. so employers are pelng— here in the uk. so employers are pelng lonel— here in the uk. so employers are being forced to— here in the uk. so employers are being forced to reach for overseas migrant labour because they— overseas migrant labour because they non-l— overseas migrant labour because lney eon-l nove— overseas migrant labour because they don't have the pipeline of people— they don't have the pipeline of people noel— they don't have the pipeline of people no one— they don't have the pipeline of people that are ready to come one— people that are ready to come one nonl— people that are ready to come and work and— people that are ready to come and work and attracted as well to and work and attracted as well no one— and work and attracted as well to the opportunities that are nee— to the opportunities that are here ln— to the opportunities that are here ln one— to the opportunities that are here in the uk— to the opportunities that are here in the uk. - to the opportunities that are here in the uk. ?5“ to the opportunities that are here in the uk. 35“ to the opportunities that are here in the uk . 35“ here in the uk. rishi sunak has welcomed the reduction in the energy price cap, describing it as a major milestone in his goal of halving inflation. ofgem has announced the typical annual household energy bill will fall to a maximum of £2,074 a year from july. that's a drop of £426. ofgem says the first price drop in 18 months reflects recent falls in wholesale energy pnces. recent falls in wholesale energy prices . as the first minister of prices. as the first minister of scotland has welcomed the police chief constable statement

describing the force as institutionally racist . speaking institutionally racist. speaking at a meeting of the scottish police authority, sir ian livingstone said people from different backgrounds are not receiving the service they should. his comments come just days after the force announced plans to enlist thousands of officers to stamp out so—called canteen culture . humza yousaf canteen culture. humza yousaf says racism within police scotland is unacceptable and that he'll do everything possible to dismantle it. there is no doubt that institutional racism exists in our society , racism exists in our society, and i want to take a moment just to say that as a person of colour , the statement from the colour, the statement from the chief constable is monumental, historic. iremember chief constable is monumental, historic. i remember raising issues around— “ lt. i remember raising issues around racism in the pole— issues around racism in the pollee force— issues around racism in the police force. strathclyde police , es lo— police force. strathclyde police , as n noe— police force. strathclyde police , as it was back— police force. strathclyde police , as it was back then , when , as it was back then, when i eloppeo— , as it was back then, when i was stopped and— , as it was back then, when i was stopped and searched over a lozen— was stopped and searched over a dozen nnee— was stopped and searched over a dozen nnee oe— was stopped and searched over a dozen times as a— was stopped and searched over a dozen times as a young boy . dozen times as a young boy. lnnee— dozen times as a young boy. nnnee goon— dozen times as a young boy. three just stop.— dozen times as a young boy. three just stop. oil- dozen times as a young boy. three just stop. oil protesters have been arrested on suspicion of criminal damage at london's

chelsea flower show. oh for god's sake. no, no , no. stop it god's sake. no, no, no. stop it . members of the public expressed their dismay as the women climbed over a rope and threw orange paint over the rbc dolphin garden . one bystander dolphin garden. one bystander turned a hosepipe on the protesters before met. police officers arrived on the scene . officers arrived on the scene. and three women have been arrested on suspicion of theft after three lambs were taken from the king's sandringham estate in norfolk. a video released by the animal rights group shows the lambs being loaded into the back of a vehicle. animal rising claims the sheep would have been sent for slaughter. it also says more high profile open rescues, as they're calling them, are planned this summer. norfolk police says the suspects remain in custody. sandringham estate has been approached for comment

, but the wagner mercenary group has started withdrawing from the ukrainian city of bakhmut, handing over its positions to russian forces as wagner's leader, yevgeny prigozhin, announced the capture of the eastern city five days ago. after the longest and bloodiest battle of the war. ukraine's deputy defence minister has confirmed regular russian troops have started replacing wagner mercenaries on the outskirts of the devastated city, but their forces remain inside . a funeral forces remain inside. a funeral has taken place for one of the last black raf pilots to have fought in the second world war. flight sergeant peter brown died alone last december, aged 96, at his home in west london. the funeral had initially been expected to be a low key affair after his family couldn't be contacted. but today, hundreds of mourners , including of mourners, including relatives, community groups and celebrities, gathered to

celebrate his life . mr brown was celebrate his life. mr brown was born in jamaica in 1926. he enlisted in the raf volunteer reserve in 1943, and he carried out missions as a radio operator and a gunner . out missions as a radio operator and a gunner. this out missions as a radio operator and a gunner . this is gb news. and a gunner. this is gb news. we'll bring you more as it happens. now, though, it's back over to . over to. patrick well, good over to. patrick- . well, good afternoon, lo. penel— - well, good afternoon, everybody well, good afternoon, everybody . it's . well, good afternoon, everybody . lee—none- . it's patrick christys here having cosmopop cuppa right in having a cosmopop cuppa right in the of a british market the heart of a british market town in boston. now, this is, of “ “ now, this is, of course, our net migration epeelol — course, our net migration epeelol lo— course, our net migration special. it has- course, our net migration special. g 22 special. it has been a record day. net migration- special. it has been a record day. net migration of- special. g 22 23 net migration of 606,000. day. net migration of 606,000. ano— day. net migration of 606,000. ann noenon— day. net migration of 606,000. ann noelon le— day. net migration of 606,000. and boston is the— 23 net migration of 606,000. and boston is the brexit 25 net migration of 606,000. and boston is the brexit backing eopnol— and boston is the brexit backing eopnol on— and boston is the brexit backing capital of britain— and boston is the brexit backing capital of britain . g capital of britain. so i thought what better case dodi to come to than here? now i am joined by anton— than here? now i am joined by anton donny,— than here? now i am joined by anton danny, who— than here? now i am joined by anton danny, who is— “525? now i am joined by anton danny, who is the former mayon— anton danny, who is the former mayor on—

anton danny, who is the former mayor of boston,— anton danny, who is the former mayor of boston, also a business on— mayor of boston, also a business on one— mayor of boston, also a business owner of the fabulous cafe de none. — owner of the fabulous cafe de none. non.— owner of the fabulous cafe de paris. now, anton,- owner of the fabulous cafe de paris. \\�*z“"ll ' “lg,“ owner of the fabulous cafe de paris. um owner of the fabulous cafe de paris. wimp“ paris. now, anton, walk with me, please, i want to come please, because i want to come through and look at your through and have a look at your wonderful here. thank you wonderful town here. thank you very for wonderful town here. thank you very-non youn— wonderful town here. thank you very-for your hospitality. 2 thank you ve|far, for your hospitality 2 thank you ve|far, by for your hospitality 2 thank you ve|far, by the your hospitality 2 thank you ve|far, by the way. |ospitality 2 thank you ve|far, by the way. smitality 2 thank you ve|far, by the way. “city wonderful town here. thank you ve|far, by the way. so the big so far, by the way. so the big question the question is, outside of the major cities, okay, net migration is at record levels. has it actually been a net benefit— has it actually been a net penenn no— has it actually been a net benefit to areas like yours here in benefit to areas like yours here ln noelon— benefit to areas like yours here in boston where— benefit to areas like yours here in boston where the sun is enlnlng— in boston where the sun is shining down— in boston where the sun is shining down on us today? wc“ shining down on us today? well, i shining down on us today? well, loell— shining down on us today? well, llell yon.— shining down on us today? well, l lell you. one— shining down on us today? well, i tell you, the net— shining down on us today? well, i tell you, the net migration and the figures, i don't believe them. all, because i them. first of all, because i think the figures, you play think the figures, you can play with at times to say with them at all times to say 780 yesterday, 606 today, i think is not the right figure. however was it of any benefit to boston ? i don't think so, boston? i don't think so, because most of the bostonians are not happy about it. okay i mean, you had your day in boston. you seen what's going on in boston. you see what kind of people are coming to boston on. on that note now, what people may— on that note now, what people may nove— on that note now, what people may have noticed— on that note now, what people may have noticed there is just onnelle— may have noticed there is just outside anton's_ may have noticed there is just outside anton's wonderful cafe lnene. — outside anton's wonderful cafe lnene. l-ve— outside anton's wonderful cafe there. i've been— outside anton's wonderful cafe there. i've been here- outside anton's wonderful cafe there. “ there. i've been here since first thing this morning. and what was really �*" “eu. l.“ 49 l.“ l; fwofln 49 and what was really noticeable

�*" “eu. l.4 4g l.4 l; .44c�*fl.4 49 and what was really noticeable is eonelnlng— what was really noticeable is something that— what was really noticeable is something that i— what was really noticeable is something that i think is noppenlng— something that i think is happening in— something that i think is happening in a lot of towns and ones—ul- - happening in a lot of towns and cities—uk. there. happening in a lot of towns andi cities—uk. there was cities around the uk. there was a individuals there. we a group of individuals there. we believe bulgaria believe them to be from bulgaria hanging and what hanging around. and then what happens is that minibus happens is that a minibus pulls up, in it and they go up, they get in it and they go out their work. out and do their day's work. and what of demographic change what kind of demographic change are you seeing here, anton? because bear in mind, this is supposedly— because bear in mind, this is supposedly lne— because bear in mind, this is supposedly the least well lnlegnolel— supposedly the least well integrated part of the uk . integrated part of the uk. well.— integrated part of the uk. well. yes.— integrated part of the uk. wgp, yes. lo— integrated part of the uk. well, yes, it is— integrated part of the uk. well, yes, it is the- integrated part of the uk. well, yes, it is the least integrated part of the uk. i give you a small figure. there is schools where they have 60% of the kids in the school. they are from a european background. so 60, that's a lot . so which so 60, that's a lot. so which means we have around 40% of the bostonians . means we have around 40% of the bostonians. now the demographic is changing rapidly. as you see. i'm working with you now and we work around . i hardly see any work around. i hardly see any engush work around. i hardly see any english or british person walking around. it's the same people, which is i think is very sad a boston with such sad for a boston with such a history. let's turn around and well— history. let's turn around and well-woo,— history. let's turn around and well-noo-yonl walk this way, because you talk apolo— walk this way, because you talk about one — walk this way, because you talk about the history— walk this way, because you talk about the history of this ponlenlon— about the history of this particular place, and it a particular place, and it is a really— particular place, and it is al really—tonn- really historic market town. and ngnn— really historic market town. and ngnn-ne— really historic market town. and ngln-ne nove— really historic market town. and right-we have a- really historic market town. and right we have a 14th right there we have a 14th century— right there we have a 14th century-church,- century gothic church, a

wonderful— century gothic church, a- wonderful—what's century gothic church, a- wonderful_what's the wonderful church. and what's the onet— wonderful church. and what's the one you— wonderful church. and what's the area that you call— wonderful church. and what's the area that you call here now just in area that you call here now just ln-lnle— area that you call here now just in -this church? - area that you call here now just in this church? “3 in front of this church? ingram llenonnl — in front of this church? ingram memorial. yeah. ingram mr ingram is who brought pumps is the one who brought the pumps for water in boston, we for water in boston, and we respect would respect it. people, they would like see it, have like to come and see it, have photos it. but photos with it. but unfortunately i've seen visitors coming boston when they coming to boston when they arrive they this arrive there and they see this gathering of people, they go back. doesn't give them back. so it doesn't give them the right and the nickname locally area now locally for this area now is foreign is that correct? foreign island. is that correct? that's a very funny name. i tell you. probably you may- that's a very funny name. i tell you. probably you may say- itell you. probably you may say that, because— you. probably you may say that, because none— you. probably you may say that, because none .the_ you. probably you may say that, because none the british because none of the british people— because none of the british people go— because none of the british people go one— because none of the british people go and there on the people go and sit there on the penenee. — people go and sit there on the benches. actually— people go and sit there on the benches. actually thinking people go and sit there on the be pass;. actually thinking people go and sit there on the be pass itactually thinking people go and sit there on the be pass it through thinking people go and sit there on the be pass it through the thinking people go and sit there on the be pass it through the council] to pass it through the council to pass it through the council to tole— to pass it through the council to take one— to pass it through the council to take the benches off and just keep— to take the benches off and just leepleleon— to take the benches off and just keep .clean and _ to take the benches off and just keep .clean and - if- to take the benches off and just keep clean and if people keep it clean and see if people go— keep it clean and see if people gong-nel— keep it clean and see if people go-lnel pose- keep it clean and see if people can go just pass through it can go and just pass through it now. very— can go and just pass through it now. wow. very shortly, what i'm going to doing in a moment is going to be doing in a moment is going to be doing in a moment is going political editor, going to our political editor, darren who's going darren mccaffrey, who's going to give proper full darren mccaffrey, who's going to give breakdown3roper full darren mccaffrey, who's going to give breakdown 3ro these ll scale breakdown of these numbers. the numbers. now, that is the national picture. okay. that's the picture. it's the national picture. but it's places boston gb places like boston that gb news needs be. are the people's needs to be. we are the people's channel. why want channel. and that's why i want to people like to speak to real people like anton. when people talk to speak to real people like anton. you when people talk to speak to real people like anton. you know, people talk to speak to real people like anton. you know, highly talk to speak to real people like anton. you know, highly skilled about, you know, highly skilled migration and people coming over

here to get high quality jobs, et cetera. what kind of migration are you seeing? is the former mayor of this town ? what former mayor of this town? what kind are you really kind of people are you really seeing impression? seeing in your impression? well, moment lately, well, at the moment and lately, eeelng— well, at the moment and lately, eeelng-o- well, at the moment and lately, we're seeing-a lot- we're seeing people, a lot of people,— we're seeing people, a lot of people-one— we're seeing people, a lot of people, are unskilled. people, they are unskilled. they eon-n—eon-n- people, they are unskilled. they can't—can't read- can't write, they can't read then— can't write, they can't read their-language. - can't write, they can't read- their-language. -think can't write, they can't read their partlanguage. think can't write, they can't read their part of guage. think can't write, they can't read their part of thisje. think can't write, they can't read their part of this community,1k can't write, they can't read their part of this community, it to be part of this community, it nlll— to be part of this community, it nlll pe— to be part of this community, it nlll be none— to be part of this community, it will be hard for— to be part of this community, it will be hard for them to negate— will be hard for them to integrate it— will be hard for them to integrate it will be very difficult. _ integrate it will be very difficult. it's— integrate it will be very difficult. it's very hard. when i difficult. it's very hard. when l noe— difficult. it's very hard. when l o— difficult. it's very hard. when lnoe o mayon— difficult. it's very hard. when i was a mayor, i— difficult. it's very hard. when i was a mayor, i tried to negate— integrate everyone and work together— integrate everyone and worki logennen—oe together with communities as myself. — together with communities as myself. - english, - together with communities as myself. english, but i'm myself. not english, but i'm onion.— myself. not english, but i'm nnnen. len— myself. not english, but i'm british. i'm proud to be nnnnn— british. i'm proud to be british-is- british. i'm proud to be british.-is my- british. i'm proud to be british. is my home. british. this is my home. my llle— british. this is my home. my llle-ln— british. this is my home. myi kids-in-country british. this is my home. my. kids-in-country , kids were born in this country, so kids were born in this country, eo-lo— kids were born in this country, eo-lo tole- kids were born in this country, so-to take that- so i'm proud to take that elnlzenenlp— so i'm proud to take that citizenship .— so i'm proud to take that citizenship . however, these citizenship. however, these people,— citizenship. however, these people,-cannot- citizenship. however, these people, cannot integrate people, they cannot integrate peeonee— people, they cannot integrate peeoneelnne — people, they cannot integrate because .the lack - people, they cannot integrate because the lack of because of the lack of communication. they are living elon— communication. they are living with—they- with themselves. they are nolenlng— with themselves. they are watching there watching their own tvs, so there is watching their own tvs, so there le-elee — watching their own tvs, so there le-elee ln— watching their own tvs, so there is-else in boston- watching their own tvs, so there is-else in boston is- is nothing else in boston is only— is nothing else in boston is onlylfraction_ is nothing else in boston is only fraction after fraction. only a fraction after fraction. ano— only a fraction after fraction. ann noel-e— only a fraction after fraction. and that's very— only a fraction after fraction. and that's very bad for a town llle— and that's very bad for a town like ourselves.— and that's very bad for a town like ourselves. and small town. look.— like ourselves. and small town. look. anton— like ourselves. and small town. look, anton, thank— like ourselves. and small town. look, anton, thank you- like ourselves. and small town. look, anton, thank you very- look, anton, thank you very much for your time. i'm just going to get you to walk with this get you to walk with me this way, where we're way, because this is where we're going be camped for the next going to be camped for the next three hours. i'm to be three hours. i'm going to be speaking of speaking to a whole host of local who local councillors, people who campaign just on that street. there brexit, actually

there for brexit, not actually for to be passed for the brexit vote to be passed for the brexit vote to be passed for referendum to for the brexit referendum to take it's the of the take place. it's the area of the highest of brexit highest percentage of brexit voters anywhere in the uk. they voted take back of voted to take back control of their and frankly, their borders and that frankly, in record in light of today's record numbers, clearly hasn't happened. to whizz happened. i'm going to whizz you back westminster, where back now to westminster, where we're from darren we're going to hear from darren mccaffrey, political editor mccaffrey, our political editor , full scale breakdown of , for a full scale breakdown of these new record numbers . yeah these new record numbers. yeah very good afternoon, patrick. interesting there. you talked apolo— interesting there. you talked about lollng— interesting there. you talked about taking control, if you llle— about taking control, if you pkg, ln— about taking control, if you pkg, ln many— about taking control, if you like, in many ways , this is like, in many ways, this is lollng— like, in many ways, this is taking control— like, in many ways, this is taking control because the ennonon— taking control because the situation we've _ taking control because the situation we've ended up in loopy— situation we've ended up in today enn— situation we've ended up in today with this— situation we've ended up in today with this record number of nlgnonle— today with this record number of migrants arriving— today with this record number of migrants arriving in the uk in the peel— migrants arriving in the uk in one peel year— migrants arriving in the uk in one peel yeon le— migrants arriving in the uk in the past year is through a system — the past year is through a system design— the past year is through a system design by the government pool— system design by the government poel nlexll. — system design by the government poel nexll. ano— system design by the government post brexit. and it— system design by the government post brexit. and it is a big lelole— post brexit. and it is a big lelole .— post brexit. and it is a big debate , isn't— post brexit. and it is a big debate , isn't it,- post brexit. and it is a big debate , isn't it, beyond the debate, isn't it, beyond the 20lo— debate, isn't it, beyond the 2016 referendum about whether llol— 2016 referendum about whether that referendum _ 2016 referendum about whether that referendum was about eonllolllng— that referendum was about controlling borders, managing nlglollon— controlling borders, managing migration, irrespective of the numerol— migration, irrespective of the numbers or whether ultimately in the numbers or whether ultimately in lle enl— numbers or whether ultimately in lle enl ll— numbers or whether ultimately in lle enl ll noe— numbers or whether ultimately in the end it was actually about bringing— the end it was actually about bringing down— the end it was actually about bringing down those numbers to lonel— bringing down those numbers to nlol lle— bringing down those numbers to nlol lle lens— bringing down those numbers to what the tens of— bringing down those numbers to what the tens of thousands of the conservatives— what the tens of thousands of the conservatives the past the conservatives in the past peel— the conservatives in the past used-commit— the conservatives in the past. used .commit_to used to commit themselves to onen— used to commit themselves to when—le- used to commit themselves to when—the actual. when you look at the actual numerol— when you look at the actual numbers themselves, of

numbers themselves, kind of lllee— numbers themselves, kind of lllee key— numbers themselves, kind of three key drivers— numbers themselves, kind of three key drivers here, first of app,— three key drivers here, first of all o— three key drivers here, first of all o lol— three key drivers here, first of all o lol ol— three key drivers here, first of all, a lot of people arriving in on o on,— all, a lot of people arriving in on a one off, almost certainly refugees— on a one off, almost certainly elugeee non — on a one off, almost certainly refugees from places like afghanistan,— refugees from places like afghanistan, like ukraine, like long— afghanistan, like ukraine, like long long,— afghanistan, like ukraine, like long long, lle— afghanistan, like ukraine, like hong kong, the government opening— hong kong, the government openlng pp— hong kong, the government opening up legal routes for them lle— opening up legal routes for them lle peel— opening up legal routes for them over the past year. _ opening up legal routes for them over the past year. now, i enepeel— over the past year. now, i suspect next— over the past year. now, i suspect next year, for example, or me— suspect next year, for example, or llle lean— suspect next year, for example, or this year, the— suspect next year, for example, or this year, the number of people— or this year, the number of people arriving— or this year, the number of people arriving from hong kong and ullolne— people arriving from hong kong and ukraine will— people arriving from hong kong and ukraine will probably fall pulle— and ukraine will probably falli gnlle—eeeonl and ukraine will probably falli quitdriver_second and ukraine will probably fall quitdriver is second and ukraine will probably fall quitdriver is students, second and ukraine will probably fall quitdriver is students, and ond and ukraine will probably fall quitdriver is students, and this big driver is students, and this is big driver is students, and this le eonelllng— big driver is students, and this is something that— big driver is students, and this is something that the government is something that the government le ln— is something that the government is in enppon— is something that the government is in enpponl ol— is something that the government is in support of. students contribute— is in support of. students contribute over £40 billion to me— contribute over £40 billion to lle ul— contribute over £40 billion to the uk economy— contribute over £40 billion to the uk economy every year. many argue— the uk economy every year. many orgne lley— the uk economy every year. many argue they should— the uk economy every year. many argue they should not be lnelnlel— argue they should not be included in— argue they should not be included in these net migration figures,— figures, considering they are elleellvell— figures, considering they are effectively students. but the reel— effectively students. but the reel nee— effectively students. but the real rise has— effectively students. but the real rise has come from lepenlenle— real rise has come from dependents who have arrived and lonely— dependents who have arrived and family members,— dependents who have arrived and family members, if— dependents who have arrived and family members, if you like, loll— family members, if you like, wlll—lle- with those students, the government _ with those students, the government say government determined, they say nonlelonnp— government determined, they say now-clamp down _ government determined, they say now clamp down on on now to clamp down on on lepenlenle— now to clamp down on on dependents being allowed to come lee— dependents being allowed to come here loll— dependents being allowed to come here with students. _ dependents being allowed to come here with students. and that elonll— here with students. and that should drive _ here with students. and that should drive down the numbers eonenlol— should drive down the numbers somewhat-well— should drive down the numbers somewhat-well .— should drive down the numbers somewhat well . then somewhat as well. and then the worl— somewhat as well. and then the work-ano— somewhat as well. and then the work -and .comes- somewhat as well. and then the work and comes back work visa. and this comes back to work visa. and this comes back lo—eeononnl- work visa. and this comes back to_economy that. work visa. and this comes backi to_economy that you to the skilled economy that you loll— to the skilled economy that youi loll—love talk about. the government have opened— talk about. the government have openellwollel— talk about. the government have opened worker visas in areas opened up worker visas in areas elon— opened up worker visas in areas enel oe— opened up worker visas in areas enel oe leolll— opened up worker visas in areas such as health care, social care in such as health care, social care ln ognenllnle— such as health care, social care in agriculture and—

such as health care, social care in agriculture and elsewhere, leepenlely— in agriculture and elsewhere, desperately where the uk needs wolelel ano— desperately where the uk needs workers. and again, there's a big— workers. and again, there's a llg lelole— workers. and again, there's a big debate about whether the income threshold should be, but llel— income threshold should be, but lley ore— income threshold should be, but lney lle— income threshold should be, but they are the main— income threshold should be, but they are the main drivers , as they are the main drivers, as you— they are the main drivers, as you-a— they are the main drivers, as yon-o eeorl- they are the main drivers, as you a record figure . we you say, for a record figure. we love— you say, for a record figure. we lore-nel— you say, for a record figure. we have net migration in have not seen net migration in ne— have not seen net migration in llle eonnln— have not seen net migration in llle eonnlry on— have not seen net migration in this country on the scale over me— this country on the scale over lle peel— this country on the scale over lne peel leer.— this country on the scale over the past year. the— this country on the scale over the past year. the prime lrlnleler— the past year. the prime| minister-today minister on the tv today lnelellng— minister on the tv today insisting he— minister on the tv today insisting he wants to see those nnrnerel— insisting he wants to see those nnrnerel fell— insisting he wants to see those numbers fall. but— insisting he wants to see those numbers fall. but in the end, if he loee— numbers fall. but in the end, if he loee lee— numbers fall. but in the end, if he does, he's going to have to mele— he does, he's going to have to make some difficult choices. lel-e— make some difficult choices. lel-e leve— make some difficult choices. lel-e leve e— make some difficult choices. let's have a listen to what he nel— let's have a listen to what he led lo— let's have a listen to what he led lo eel— let's have a listen to what he led lo eel on— let's have a listen to what he had to say on this— let's have a listen to what he had to say on this morning. this rnornlng— morning, numbers are too high. it's morning, numbers are too high. lle ee— morning, numbers are too high. lle es elnple— morning, numbers are too high. it's as simple as— morning, numbers are too high. it's as simple as that. - morning, numbers are too high. it's as simple as that. and- it's as simple as that. and i want to bring them down. and that's week we that's why this week we announced measures. announced some new measures. and i arc pretty much i think arc pretty much the biggest thing that anyone's ever announced to bring levels of announced to bring the levels of migration and it's new migration down. and it's a new policy which the amount policy which limits the amount of members that people of family members that people who are studying here can bring with them when they come and study what we've seen study here. and what we've seen over years is that over the last few years is that number has just number of dependents has just absolutely spiralled . almost absolutely spiralled. almost 150,000 dependents of people who are studying here coming. we're saying now on, that's not saying from now on, that's not going to be allowed . it's

going to be allowed. it's fascinating, patrick,- fascinating, patrick, when you look— fascinating, patrick, when you lool el— fascinating, patrick, when you look at polling— fascinating, patrick, when you look at polling over the last couple— look at polling over the last couple or— look at polling over the last couple of years,— look at polling over the last couple of years, particularly elene— couple of years, particularly lne— couple of years, particularly since the brexit— couple of years, particularly since the brexit referendum , since the brexit referendum, lrnrnlgrellon— since the brexit referendum, immigration is— since the brexit referendum, immigration is an issue has ellppel— immigration is an issue has ellppel on— immigration is an issue has ellppel on lne— immigration is an issue has slipped on the agenda, even llongl— slipped on the agenda, even llongl lne— slipped on the agenda, even though the number of migrants errlvlng— though the number of migrants errlvlng lee— though the number of migrants arriving here continued to arriving here has continued to enl— arriving here has continued to increase and the— arriving here has continued to increase and the government have leelgneel— increase and the government have ggggngg ee— increase and the government have ggggngg ee l— increase and the government have ggggngg ee r eel,— increase and the government have designed, as i say, this system llel— designed, as i say, this system llel lee— designed, as i say, this system that has allowed— designed, as i say, this system that has allowed the record nnrnerel— that has allowed the record nnrnerel ol— that has allowed the record numbers of people to arrive in ne— numbers of people to arrive in llle eonnlry. — numbers of people to arrive in this country. and— numbers of people to arrive in this country. and that's where llell— this country. and that's where llell senel— this country. and that's where rishi sunak faces— this country. and that's where rishi sunak faces really lllllenll— rishi sunak faces really difficult battle because he is he going— difficult battle because he is re golng lo— difficult battle because he is he going to fight his education seerelery— he going to fight his education secretary when— he going to fight his education secretary when it— he going to fight his education secretary when it comes to elnlenl— secretary when it comes to elnlenl-le- secretary when it comes to i student-isigoing student numbers? is he going to llgll—wlen- student numbers? is he going toi fight—whenlcomes fight the treasury when it comes to fight the treasury when it comes lo lne— fight the treasury when it comes lo lne nnrnerl— fight the treasury when it comes to the number of— fight the treasury when it comes to the number of foreign workers we to the number of foreign workers wg-pg.gp_ to the number of foreign workers ne-leree le— to the number of foreign workers we-here? is.going- to the number of foreign workers we here? is going to we need here? is he going to llgll— we need here? is he going to rlgnl ollere— we need here? is he going to fight others party if he fight others in his party if he eeye—neel- fight others in his party if he. says,_need.kerb says, actually, we need to kerb the says, actually, we need to kerb lne nnrnerl— says, actually, we need to kerb the number of— says, actually, we need to kerb the number of refugees legally ellowel— the number of refugees legally allowed-here?- the number of refugees legally allowed here? and allowed to arrive here? and i lllnl— allowed to arrive here? and i think-where,- allowed to arrive here? and i think-where, as- allowed to arrive here? and i think-where, as i- allowed to arrive here? and i think where, as i say, think that's where, as i say, lne— think that's where, as i say, lne enme— think that's where, as i say, the prime minister is in a very lllllenll— the prime minister is in a very difficult bind,— the prime minister is in a very difficult bind, not— the prime minister is in a very difficult bind, not least of alb— difficult bind, not least of all, because— difficult bind, not least of all, because labour are all, because labour now are lrnelel— all, because labour now are trusted than trusted more on immigration than the trusted more on immigration than lne—reno— trusted more on immigration than lne—rely enl- trusted more on immigration than the—party and that. the conservative party and that cooll— the conservative party and that could-onen- the conservative party and that could when people look could get worse when people look at could get worse when people look el—enl— could get worse when people look el—enl reel- at these numbers and feel uncomfortable— at these numbers and feel uncomfortable large uncomfortable with the large eeele — uncomfortable with the large scale _ arriving i uncomfortable with the large. scale _ arriving in. scale of migrants arriving in. look.— scale of migrants arriving in. lool. nerren— scale of migrants arriving in. look, darren, absolutely- scale of migrants arriving in. look, darren, absolutely .- scale of migrants arriving in. look, darren, absolutely . thank look, darren, absolutely. thank you very, very much for that. really comprehend lviv picture of these latest figures . and

of these latest figures. and darren identified some really crucial areas there that we're going to delving into live going to be delving into live here in boston in lincolnshire for the next three hours, especially when it comes to things education. but one things like education. but one of you be of the things that you might be able behind me now is able to see behind me now is a police car has just pulled up, actually. and i'm going bring police car has just pulled up, ac'aally. and i'm going bring police car has just pulled up, ac'aally. lnow'm going bring police car has just pulled up, ac'aally. lnow who'sng bring police car has just pulled up, ac'aally. lnow who's callediring police car has just pulled up, ac'aally. lnow who's called chris in a chap now who's called chris martin. local martin. now, chris is a local business owner. thank you very much. easy name to remember, of course, but course, is a famous name. but now think quite an now chris is, i think quite an outspoken local resident when it comes issues that comes to some of the issues that he mass migration has he says mass migration has caused in this particular area. and i'm going to throw it over to you, chris, because as far as you're concerned, i think it's actually quite unusual see actually quite unusual to see the it's a the police here. it's a remarkable coincidence, isn't it? yeah. it's it? yeah, it is. yeah. it's quite strange see them. but quite strange to see them. but recently i've i tried complaining since complaining to the council since this complaining to the council since llle-leel— complaining to the council since llle-leel leer— complaining to the council since this-last year till- this time last year till ember.— this time last year till october. .was - this time last year till october. gccc “g october. i was getting completely ignored. i was sending-footage,- completely ignored. i was sending -footage, know, sending them footage, you know, plelnree— sending them footage, you know, plelnree ol— sending them footage, you know, pictures of things— sending them footage, you know, pictures of things like people poolng— pictures of things like people poolng ln— pictures of things like people poolng ln lne— pictures of things like people pooing in the streets and they lgnorel— pooing in the streets and they lgnorel ne— pooing in the streets and they lgnorel — pooing in the streets and they ignored me. so— pooing in the streets and they ignored me. so i— pooing in the streets and they ignored me. 2 2 ignored me. so i said i'd make them public. started making lleee— them public. started making these tiktok_ m. started making these tiktok facebook videos .

these tiktok facebook videos. ano— these tiktok facebook videos. and lo— these tiktok facebook videos. and lo lrlng— these tiktok facebook videos. and to bring awareness to it egeln— and to bring awareness to it egeln .— and to bring awareness to it egeln , nolnlng— and to bring awareness to it again , nothing really happened. again, nothing really happened. people— again, nothing really happened. people wooll— again, nothing really happened. people would move— again, nothing really happened. people would move up,- again, nothing really happened. people would move up, move them to another area. so they're moving the problem from one business to another business. since then, i've been targeted by them in fact, one of the pcsos behind us was one of the guys who went up to him and told him i was ringing the police on him i was ringing the police on him last week. they the police was called out to him . police was called out to him. police left them there drinking . 20 left them there drinking. 20 minutes later, they've covered my toe studio shops in spit and then it escalated. they came to my flat door and they kicked the door in. one was threatening to stab me . i rang 999 about 8 pm, stab me. i rang 999 about 8 pm, 11:00 the next day. the police turned up. they didn't even come out to my 999 call and clearly the point that you are making here is that one of the issues in this area, given the fact that it has seen rapid population growth and it is this perfect microcosm for the massive net migration special that we're doing today, one of the issues that you feel is an

increasing crime, is that right? yeah, yeah, for sure. and alcohol is major issue, as alcohol is the major issue, as you can see hear. it's there you can see or hear. it's there all sitting there drinking just now outside my shop, there was five sat there drinking , police five sat there drinking, police car, pulled up, asked them to move, police car, drove away . move, police car, drove away. they decided not move on my they decided not to move on my phone. now i've got a video of one of them just urinating up the door . and one of them just urinating up the door. and this is all in front of council offices as front of the council offices as well. office the well. the council office has the exact same view of me and they don't do anything about it. not doing anything. got to doing anything. so i've got to ask doing anything. so i've got to eel-yon— doing anything. so i've got to eel-yon lllnl- doing anything. so i've got to ask-you think that. doing anything. so i've got toj ask-you think that the ask you, do you think that the people— ask you, do you think that the people who— ask you, do you think that the people who ee— ask you, do you think that the people who are saying today that we need— people who are saying today that we need massive— people who are saying today that we need massive levels of net rnlgrellon— we need massive levels of net rnlgrellon lor— we need massive levels of net migration for our— we need massive levels of net migration for our economy and for evenlnlng— migration for our economy and for everything to— migration for our economy and for everything to go around in nrlleln— for everything to go around in nrlleln e— for everything to go around in britain ? would— for everything to go around in britain ? would you agree with britain? would you agree with men— britain? would you agree with llele r— britain? would you agree with that? i would— britain? would you agree with that? i would say— britain? would you agree with that? i would say there's lnnlrele— that? i would say there's hundreds of— that? i would say there's hundreds of hard working lrnrnlgrenle— hundreds of hard working immigrants here. hundreds of hard working- immigrants here. but then you've got this, but then there's a lot of these that are just sat around drinking all day. it's made this town dirty, violent. it you know, there's a lot of stabbings around here and it's not getting better. it's just

getting worse and worse and worse right. well, worse. okay. all right. well, look,— worse. okay. all right. well, loop-loon— worse. okay. all right. well, look,-good luck- worse. okay. all right. well, look,-good luck to - okay. all right. well, look, good luck to you, look, good. good luck to you, one — look, good. good luck to you, one r— look, good. good luck to you, chris. i really— look, good. good luck to you, chris. i really appreciate your lne— chris. i really appreciate your llrne enl— chris. i really appreciate your time and for— chris. i really appreciate your time and for coming and time and for you coming and epeellng— time and for you coming and speaking you speaking out. and hopefully, you knoll— speaking out. and hopefully, you lnon—eele- speaking out. and hopefully, you lnon—eele ln- speaking out. and hopefully, you know,_safe in your. know, you can feel safe in your own town. really.— know, you can feel safe in your own town. really. would be own town. really. that would be gelle— own town. really. that would be quite—wouldn't- own town. really. that would be quite—wouldn't it?i quite nice for you, wouldn't it? leellle— really? but look, thank you very,— really? but look, thank you very-neon.— really? but look, thank you very, much. that's chris very, very much. that's chris llerlln— very, very much. that's chris martin there. _ very, very much. that's chris martin there. now, we're going to martin there. now, we're going lolepeellng— martin there. now, we're going lolepeellngle— martin there. now, we're goingi to.speaking.a-host to be speaking to a whole host of to be speaking to a whole host ol—enl- of people like chris and orllnen— of people like chris and. ordinary—this ordinary people around this perllenler—lni particular part of boston in lincolnshire— particular part of boston in lincolnofire_ particular part of boston in lincolnof the— particular part of boston in lincolnof the day. i'm also course of the day. i'm also going— course of the day. i'm also golng lo— course of the day. i'm also golng lo le— course of the day. i'm also going to be talking, course, going to be talking, of course, to going to be talking, of course, lo lop— going to be talking, of course, to top politicians.— going to be talking, of course, to top politicians. but we've lone— to top politicians. but we've lonellol— to top politicians. but we've donellot here— to top politicians. but we'vei donellot here -the done a lot here so far on the legel— done a lot here so far on the legal migration— done a lot here so far on the legal migration side of it. i've got legal migration side of it. i've gol-lnrnen— legal migration side of it. i've got human aspect of it. got you human aspect of it. were— got you human aspect of it. were going— got you human aspect of it. we're going delving into we're going to be delving into lonel— we're going to be delving into rrlel ll— we're going to be delving into what it means— we're going to be delving into what it means for— we're going to be delving into what it means for things like oer-eyelern- what it means for things like our- system, our. our education system, our noepllellll— our education system, our. hospitality—culture our education system, our. howell. ty_culture our education system, our. howell. but-culture our education system, our howell. but what culture our education system, our howell. but what aboutilture our education system, our howell. but what about the a as well. but what about the lllegel— as well. but what about the lllegel-ol— as well. but what about the illegal-of it?- as well. but what about the illegal of it? and when i illegal side of it? and when i peel,— illegal side of it? and when i come back, i'm— illegal side of it? and when i come back, i'm going to be lellng— come back, i'm going to be lellng yon— come back, i'm going to be taking you all— come back, i'm going to be taking you all the way to dover nlll — taking you all the way to dover roll—oer- taking you all the way to dover with _our home - taking you all the way to doveri with _our home and with mark white, our home and eeenrlly— with mark white, our home and security editor,— with mark white, our home and security editor, for— with mark white, our home and security editor, for the latest from —

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net migration special on another record day for the migration numbers. this is the brexit leellng— numbers. this is the brexit backing capital— numbers. this is the brexit backing capital of- this is the brexit backing capital of britain. and yet backing capital of britain. and lel nel— backing capital of britain. and yet net migration 606,000 double that yet net migration 606,000 double llel ol— yet net migration 606,000 double llel of pre— yet net migration 606,000 double that of pre brexit.— yet net migration 606,000 double that of pre brexit. but this is inel— that of pre brexit. but this is lnel lne— that of pre brexit. but this is teel lne legel— that of pre brexit. but this is just the legal stuff. this is leer— just the legal stuff. this is tnel lne— just the legal stuff. this is just the ones— just the legal stuff. this is just the ones that we actually know— just the ones that we actually know elonl— just the ones that we actually know about. i'm— just the ones that we actually know about. i'm going to take you— know about. i'm going to take yon-lo— know about. i'm going to take yon-lo pover— know about. i'm going to take you to dover where know about. i'm going to take- you-to dover-where mark you over to dover now where mark rolle— you over to dover now where mark ville—eeenrlll- white, our home and security elllon— white, our home and security elllon le— white, our home and security editor, is. he's— white, our home and security editor, is. he's been looking at the editor, is. he's been looking at lne-eroeelng- editor, is. he's been looking at the-crossing the- the numbers crossing the creme.— the numbers crossing the channel._year. the numbers crossing the- channel._year. mark channel. so far this year. mark relrlel— channel. so far this year. mark relrlel vee— channel. so far this year. mark patrick yes, the _ channel. so far this year. mark patrick yes, the numbers eroeelng— patrick yes, the numbers crossing the _ patrick yes, the numbers crossing the channel in small loele. — crossing the channel in small loele. rre— crossing the channel in small boats. we know— crossing the channel in small boats. we know so- crossing the channel in small boats. we know so far this year, 7500. last year it was just under 46,000. now of course, thatis under 46,000. now of course, that is just a fraction of the overall net migration, but it is the most high profile and highly contentious aspect of migration into this country. and that is what the government terms as illegal migration. that's why, of course , we've got the illegal of course, we've got the illegal migration bill working its way through parliament as we speak. and in these figures today , not

and in these figures today, not just from the office for national statistics, but the home office also released their figures in tandem with those ons figures in tandem with those ons figures , and they make for some figures, and they make for some interesting reading because on the asylum seekers front, they reveal that last year or the year to march this year , there year to march this year, there were 75,000 asylum applications . now, patrick, that is the highest that figure for asylum applications in over 20 years. it's a 33% increase on the number claiming asylum last yeah number claiming asylum last year. and of course, that subsequently had a knock on effect on this backlog of asylum seekers that they never seem to be able to manage to reduce. in fact, all it does is increase. we are now up to 170, 82,000 people awaiting an initial decision on their asylum

application that is a 57% increase on the figures last yeah increase on the figures last year. and if we drill down into some of the other statistics s about those crossing the english channelin about those crossing the english channel in small boats , well, channel in small boats, well, you remember last year all we were talking about, it seems , were talking about, it seems, was albanians coming across the engush was albanians coming across the english channel, afghanistan and albanians, the two nations that were the predominant nations represent on these small boats, 13,000 albanians crossed in small boats last year. well in the first three months of this yean the first three months of this year, things have changed around very dramatically . india is now very dramatically. india is now up there with afghanistan as the two nations that are the most represented on these small boats, the albanian figure, has just plummeted . add a fraction just plummeted. add a fraction of what it was at just 1% of those on small boats coming across the channel in the first

three months of this year were from albania , a total of 28 from albania, a total of 28 albanians . mark thank you very, albanians. mark thank you very, very much. that's mark white llere— very much. that's mark white them, our— very much. that's mark white there, our home— 5; t“ that's mark white there, our home insecurity elllor— there, our home insecurity editor who's— there, our home insecurity editor who's been reacting to lloee— editor who's been reacting to those numbers— editor who's been reacting to those numbers of crossing those numbers of people crossing the those numbers of people crossing lne—r— those numbers of people crossing lne—rupee- those numbers of people crossing lne—r-lee lnl the channel. now i am here in noelon— the channel. now i am here in poem—.- the channel. now i am here in noelon—. lllel the channel. now i am here ini boston,_. this is boston, in lincolnshire. this is lne— boston, in lincolnshire. this is lne nrexll— boston, in lincolnshire. this is the brexit backing capital of erren.— the brexit backing capital of britain._highest| britain. it's got the highest proporllon— britain. it's got the highest proportion voters , britain. it's got the highest- proportion _voters , 75. proportion of brexit voters, 75. they— proportion of brexit voters, 75. rlel-ln— proportion of brexit voters, 75. reel-tn loree- proportion of brexit voters, 75. they in force largely they came out in force largely to they came out in force largely lo eonlrol— they came out in force largely to control-own - they came out in force largely to control own borders. to control their own borders. people— to control their own borders. people-johnr_ to control their own borders. people john, who joins me people like john, who joins me -roln— people like john, who joins me now. john literally now. now, john has literally inel— now. now, john has literally reel—lne- now. now, john has literally just—the street. now. now, john has literally. just—the street and just stopped in the street and needed— just stopped in the street and decided-know,- just stopped in the street and- decided-know,.should decided that you know, we should leve — decided that you know, we should leve—llrn. - have a quick chat with him. tonn— have a quick chat with him. john-eel— have a quick chat with him. torn-eel lon- have a quick chat with him. john,-ask you to- have a quick chat with him. john, ask you to just walk john, can i ask you to just walk roll— john, can i ask you to just walk nlll ne— john, can i ask you to just walk nlll rne e— john, can i ask you to just walk with me a little— john, can i ask you to just walk with me a little bit, mate? is llel— with me a little bit, mate? is llel ell— with me a little bit, mate? is that all right?— with me a little bit, mate? is that all right? so— with me a little bit, mate? is that all right? so we're coming lnlo— that all right? so we're coming into—john] into a square now. now, john, lne— into a square now. now, john, lne-yon— into a square now. now, john, lne-yon eloppel- the reason you stopped is leeenee— the reason you stopped isi because—police the reason you stopped is- because_police are because we see the police are here— because we see the police arei lere—rlglle here at the moment. all right? ano— here at the moment. all right? one epperenlly— here at the moment. all right? and apparently they're not elneye— and apparently they're not elneye pere— and apparently they're not always here, but you're saying llel— always here, but you're saying llel-elwele— always here, but you're saying llel-elwele e- always here, but you're saying that-always a bit- always here, but you're saying that always a bit an that there's always a bit of an eee— that there's always a bit of an onen— that there's always a bit of an issue when .comes- that there's always a bit of an issue when comes mass issue when it comes to mass nlgrellon— migration, etcetera. in this perllenler— migration, etcetera. in thisi particular—town, migration, etcetera. in this. particular—town, is particular part of the town, is llel— particular part of the town, is that correct? _ particular part of the town, is that correct? tt that correct? that's correct, yeah, going for yeah, 100. what's going on for you? lot of you? well, there's a lot of drunkenness and bad behaviour and a lot of wind is getting broken as well. i have a shop

down worm gate and we've had 2 or 3 windows broken in the last two years. okay big windows. yeah. okay. now now, you voted for brexit. yes, that's right . for brexit. yes, that's right. vee- — for brexit. yes, that's right. vee- no— for brexit. yes, that's right. vee- no you— for brexit. yes, that's right. yes. do you feel— for brexit. yes, that's right. yes. do you feel as- fiftzx c yes, that's right. yes. do you feel as though yon-le— yes. do you feel as though yon-e gol— yes. do you feel as though you've got what- yes. do you feel as though you've got what you asked for? no.— you've got what you asked for? no. nor— you've got what you asked for? no. not el— you've got what you asked for? no. not er ell — you've got what you asked for? no, not at all. no.— you've got what you asked for? no, not at all. no. because- you've got what you asked for? no, not at all. no. because the concern motives haven't put anything forward. okay they just don't want to do it . okay. and don't want to do it. okay. and just to don't want to do it. okay. and feel lo elerlly— don't want to do it. okay. and just to clarify for— don't want to do it. okay. and just to clarify for you - don't want to do it. okay. and just to clarify for you ,- 2“ c r2r:::r c okay. and just to clarify for you , do 2“ c r2rt:r c okay. and just to clarify for you , do you just to clarify for you, do you lllnl— just to clarify for you, do you lllnl llel— just to clarify for you, do you think that this— just to clarify for you, do you think that this particular town, noelon— think that this particular town, boston historic— think that this particular town, boston historic market town, has elengel— boston historic market town, has elengel lor— boston historic market town, has changed for the— boston historic market town, has changed for the better or for lne— changed for the better or for we woree— changed for the better or for the worse as— changed for the better or for the worse as a— changed for the better or for the worse as a result of eonllnwel— the worse as a result of continued record levels of net rnlgrellon— continued record levels of net rnlgrellon e— continued record levels of net migration ? oh,— continued record levels of net migration ? oh, it's definitely migration? oh, it's definitely leew— migration? oh, it's definitely roow — migration? oh, it's definitely 100% worse. “55“ 100% worse. yeah. for the worse. yeah, yeah, yeah. all right . yeah, yeah, yeah. all right. well, look, i'll tell you what. rleee— well, look, i'll tell you what. rleee ee— well, look, i'll tell you what. these are the— well, look, i'll tell you what. these are the views of kyiv. ronn — these are the views of kyiv. roln r-we— these are the views of kyiv. town, he gol— these are the views of kyiv. john, i've got to— these are the views of kyiv. john, i've got to ask you, john, at john, i've got to ask you, john, el-nexl— john, i've got to ask you, john, at. next election, - john, i've got to ask you, john, at next election, who are at the next election, who are you— at the next election, who are won golng — at the next election, who are you going-vote— at the next election, who are you going vote well at you going to vote for? well at lne— you going to vote for? well at we rnlnwle— you going to vote for? well at the minute, nobody worth the minute, there's nobody worth wollng—le- voting for. normally, i'd be swaying labour, right? swaying towards labour, right? but i'm not confident in keir starmer . okay. you know. all starmer. okay. you know. all right. well, starmer. okay. you know. all right . well, it's interesting right. well, it's interesting llel— right. well, it's interesting llel wow— right. well, it's interesting that you said— right. well, it's interesting that you said that- ” 3“ well, it's interesting that you said that because i'm twel— that you said that because i'm just-90— that you said that because i'm reel-go now- that you said that because i'm just-go now.-went just going to go now. we went out just going to go now. we went owl eerller— just going to go now. we went out earlier just— just going to go now. we went out earlier just around the town lee.—

here. i'm going to be moving eol— here. i'm going to be moving erownlllelr— here. i'm going to be moving aroundlfair bit.— here. i'm going to be moving around fair bit. there's around a fair bit. there's enoller— around a fair bit. there's another high— around a fair bit. there's another high street over there enl— another high street over there end we— another high street over there and we _other- another high street over there and we other people, and we spoke to other people, noelon— and we spoke to other people, boston citizens— and we spoke to other people, boston citizens here about where— boston citizens here abouti whether—backed whether or not they backed lelowr— whether or not they backed labour-tories- whether or not they backed labour-tories to- whether or not they backed labour tories to get a labour or the tories to get a grip— labour or the tories to get a gnp ol— labour or the tories to get a gnp or rneee— labour or the tories to get a grip of mass migration. it's in llgll— grip of mass migration. it's in llgll ol— grip of mass migration. it's in llgnl or lne— grip of mass migration. it's in light of the new— grip of mass migration. it's in light of the new opinion polls llel— light of the new opinion polls- llel—eppeer that dropped today, which appear to that dropped today, which appear lo-lle— that dropped today, which appear to-the british- that dropped today, which appear to the british public to show that the british public leer— to show that the british public now trust labour— to show that the british public now trust labour more with eonlrolllng — now trust labour more with controlling our— now trust labour more with controlling our borders than new— controlling our borders than llewllle— controlling our borders than they-the tories.- controlling our borders than they the tories. let's see they do the tories. let's see we— they do the tories. let's see wlel eoe— they do the tories. let's see what some locals- they do the tories. let's see what some locals to say . what some locals had to say. wone. — what some locals had to say. none. none— what some locals had to say. none. none — what some locals had to say. none. none t 2“ c “l: none. none because i don't think they all all they're just all out for themselves. you know, they care about people. they don't care about people. they don't care about people. they care about the people they don't care about the people living in the country. you know, they about living in the country. you know, llew-elowl lne- they care more about the lrnrnlgrenle— they care more about the- immigrants—people they care more about the- immigrants_people live immigrants more than people live in immigrants more than people live ln-eownlw.— immigrants more than people live in-country. that's— immigrants more than people live in .country. that's-it.- immigrants more than people live iitrust country. that's it. immigrants more than people live iitrust the �*itry. that's it. immigrants more than people live iitrust the labourat's it. immigrants more than people live iitrust the labour party it. immigrants more than people live iitrust the labour party a it. immigrants more than people live iitrust the labour party a bitt. i trust the labour party a bit more on immigration because i eon-l— more on immigration because i lon-l reellw— more on immigration because i don't really follow— more on immigration because i don't really follow politics as neon— don't really follow politics as meet from — don't really follow politics as much from what— don't really follow politics as much from what i have heard, and eepeelellw— much from what i have heard, and eepeelellw rrorn — much from what i have heard, and especially from family members and especially from family members enl lne— especially from family members end we llle— especially from family members and the like who— especially from family members and the like who do follow it. twe— and the like who do follow it. he leerl— and the like who do follow it. i've heard that— and the like who do follow it. i've heard that the— and the like who do follow it. i've heard that the labour- i've heard that the labour response is much better than the tory response to immigration and anything i hear online about it is always a bit negative from the tories. i think i hear negellwlw— the tories. i think i hear negativity like- i think i hear negativity like like oh, we got

a negativity like like oh, we got e elool— negativity like like oh, we got a shoot down— negativity like like oh, we got a shoot down the— negativity like like oh, we got a shoot down the boats coming over basically. _ a shoot down the boats coming over basically. \rrt; ” over basically. neither labour's got no idea what's going on and conservatives , they keep giving conservatives, they keep giving money to france to stop their boats, but their boats just keep coming. more and more and more. it coming. more and more and more. ll neele— coming. more and more and more. ll neele lo— coming. more and more and more. ll neele lo le— rtrt:r “3 more and more and more. it needs to be throughout lift" “3 more and more and more. it needs to be throughout all the it needs to be throughout all we perllee— it needs to be throughout all lne perllee lo— it needs to be throughout all the parties to sort out. it's a nellonel— the parties to sort out. it's a national problem. i'd say the conservatives— national problem. i'd say the conservatives are— national problem. i'd say the conservatives are doing a pretty gooe— conservatives are doing a pretty good job- — conservatives are doing a pretty good job- lnew-re— conservatives are doing a pretty good job. “rt; ”rt; “g “g “ good job. they're bringing in money, also giving out money like example to france. but i feel like immigration- c t but i feel like immigration has gone up. nel— feel like immigration has gone up. lnl llle— feel like immigration has gone up. nel llle le— feel like immigration has gone up. but this is bringing in new ewllwree— up. but this is bringing in new ewllwree lo— up. but this is bringing in new cultures to the _ up. but this is bringing in new cultures to the country , which cultures to the country, which is cultures to the country, which le eleo— cultures to the country, which le eleo e— cultures to the country, which is also a positive— cultures to the country, which is also a positive . expanding is also a positive. expanding people-e— is also a positive. expanding people's thoughts as well. so llew-re— people's thoughts as well. so lnew-re long— people's thoughts as well. so lnew-re lolng e— people's thoughts as well. so they're doing a pretty good job in they're doing a pretty good job ln rnw— they're doing a pretty good job in my opinion.— they're doing a pretty good job in my opinion. i'd— they're doing a pretty good job in my opinion. i'd say concern negellwee— in my opinion. i'd say concern negellwee. r— in my opinion. i'd say concern negatives. i think— in my opinion. i'd say concern negatives. i think we just have to understand— negatives. i think we just have to understand that immigration is to understand that immigration re golng— to understand that immigration re golng ep— to understand that immigration re golng np .— to understand that immigration is going up . obviously, it's not is going up. obviously, it's not eonwenlenl— is going up. obviously, it's not convenient for— is going up. obviously, it's not convenient for some people who eel— convenient for some people who eel elle— convenient for some people who eel elle lo— convenient for some people who aren't able to get— convenient for some people who aren't able to get jobs and elwll— aren't able to get jobs and elwll lnl— aren't able to get jobs and elwll lnl r— aren't able to get jobs and stuff, but i think it gives people— stuff, but i think it gives people pleeee- stuff, but i think it gives people places to live and places to people places to live and places lo worl— people places to live and places lo worl .— people places to live and places lo worl. r— people places to live and places to work. i think— people places to live and places to work. i think they come here

enl— to work. i think they come here enl llew— to work. i think they come here enl llew lo— to work. i think they come here enl llew lo .— to work. i think they come here ene new to . a— to work. i think they come here and they do . a lot— to work. i think they come here and they do . a lot of them do and they do. a lot of them do try and they do. a lot of them do lrw enl— and they do. a lot of them do lrw enl lo— and they do. a lot of them do try and do what— and they do. a lot of them do try and do what they do. and i lllnl— try and do what they do. and i think conservatives are doing a goon— think conservatives are doing a good lol— think conservatives are doing a good tol el— think conservatives are doing a good job at regulating that . good job at regulating that. ane— good job at regulating that. and we— good job at regulating that. and what you're— good job at regulating that. and what you're hearing a lot of there is about people feeling let down politically and now politically homeless this let down politically and now politicbehindneless this let down politically and now politicbehind meess this let down politically and now politicbehind me here this let down politically and now politicbehind me here isiis let down politically and now politicbehind me here is called street behind me here is called straight boston, in straight bar gate in boston, in lincolnshire again, remind lincolnshire. again, i'll remind you this is the you why we're here this is the brexit heartland of the uk, the largest proportion of people who backed brexit. and in fact , not backed brexit. and in fact, not just on this road behind me here every single were people every single week were people out in force campaigning just to get a referendum? let alone win it? and a lot of those people feel let down when we see record migration numbers of 606,000. but also , of course, see, but we also, of course, see, don't we, a huge proportion of people coming from outside the european union, around 900,000 of the 1.2 million people who arrived from outside of arrived coming from outside of the european union . and that the european union. and that will to obviously rapid will lead to obviously rapid demographic change in this country. when i come back . okay. country. when i come back. okay. i'm going to be talking to richard tice, who's the leader of reform uk . now, reform is

of reform uk. now, reform is a name that's on a lot of people's lips around here because they don't really want to vote tory. they can't themselves to they can't bring themselves to vote of the net vote labour in light of the net migration so what they're migration stuff. so what they're deciding potentially deciding to do potentially is vote when i come vote for reform. when i come back, to talk to back, i'm going to talk to richard a who richard tice, a man who himself has campaigning tirelessly has been campaigning tirelessly for this for brexit on streets like this to our borders. and that to control our borders. and that hasn't happened, has now hasn't happened, has it? now though, headlines with though, it's your headlines with rhiannon . patrick thank you. rhiannon. patrick thank you. good afternoon. it's 331. your t0p— good afternoon. it's 331. your lop elorlee— good afternoon. it's 331. your top stories from _ good afternoon. it's 331. your top stories from the newsroom. nownlng— top stories from the newsroom. downing street— top stories from the newsroom. downing street has refused calls for llell — downing street has refused calls for rishi sunak— downing street has refused calls for rishi sunak to— downing street has refused calls for rishi sunak to apologise, leeplle— for rishi sunak to apologise, despite failing— for rishi sunak to apologise, despite failing to reduce net rnlgrellon— despite failing to reduce net migration, which is now risen to record— migration, which is now risen to eeorl levele— migration, which is now risen to eeorl lewele :— migration, which is now risen to record levels , data— migration, which is now risen to record levels , data shows record levels, data shows nwrnerel— record levels, data shows numbers rose— record levels, data shows numbers rose to 606,000 last yeah— numbers rose to 606,000 last year, even after— numbers rose to 606,000 last year, even after repeated gowernrnenl— year, even after repeated government pledges to bring owerell— government pledges to bring overall numbers— government pledges to bring overall numbers down. immigration- overall numbers down. immigration minister robert rennel— immigration minister robert jenrick eewe— immigration minister robert jenrick says the government is long— jenrick says the government is lwlng lo— jenrick says the government is lwlng lo leelle— jenrick says the government is trying to tackle the issue . trying to tackle the issue. llell — trying to tackle the issue. rishi sunak— trying to tackle the issue. rishi sunak welcomes the relwellon— rishi sunak welcomes the reduction in— rishi sunak welcomes the reduction in the energy price cap,— reduction in the energy price

eep, eewlng— reduction in the energy price eep, eewlng rre— reduction in the energy price eep, eewlng ll-e e— reduction in the energy price cap, saying it's a major milestone— cap, saying it's a major milestone in- cap, saying it's a major milestone in his goal of halving lnllellon. — milestone in his goal of halving inflation. ofgem— milestone in his goal of halving inflation. ofgem announced the lwpleel— inflation. ofgem announced the lwpleel enel— inflation. ofgem announced the typical annual household energy bill typical annual household energy llll wlll— typical annual household energy bill will fall— typical annual household energy bill will fall to— typical annual household energy bill will fall to £2,074 a year non— bill will fall to £2,074 a year rrorn july— bill will fall to £2,074 a year rrorn july .— bill will fall to £2,074 a year from july . that's— bill will fall to £2,074 a year from july . that's a drop of from july. that's a drop of leee:— from july. that's a drop of leee, orgern— from july. that's a drop of £426, ofgem says the reduction relleele— £426, ofgem says the reduction reflects recent— £426, ofgem says the reduction reflects recent falls in wholesale _ reflects recent falls in wholesale energy prices . as wholesale energy prices. as a eerrnen— wholesale energy prices. as a german prosecutors played down lopee— german prosecutors played down lopee ol— german prosecutors played down lopee of en— german prosecutors played down hopes of an imminent breakthrough in the search for nleelng— breakthrough in the search for missing madeleine mccann. police enewel— missing madeleine mccann. police enewel llelr— missing madeleine mccann. police renewed their 16— missing madeleine mccann. police renewed their 16 year hunt for welelelne— renewed their 16 year hunt for madeleine near— renewed their 16 year hunt for madeleine near a— renewed their 16 year hunt for madeleine near a reservoir in lorlwgel— madeleine near a reservoir in lorlngel lnl— madeleine near a reservoir in portugal, but after three days, ollleere— portugal, but after three days, officers appeared to be scaling peel— officers appeared to be scaling peel errone— officers appeared to be scaling back efforts in.— officers appeared to be scaling back efforts in. investigators were seen packing up their tents and were seen packing up their tents enl wlneeeee— were seen packing up their tents and witnesses say— were seen packing up their tents and witnesses say british police who— and witnesses say british police who ee— and witnesses say british police who are assisting— and witnesses say british police who are assisting their lorlngneee— who are assisting their portuguese and german counterparts— portuguese and german counterparts ,- portuguese and german counterparts , had left by this counterparts, had left by this ellernoon— counterparts, had left by this afternoon for— counterparts, had left by this afternoon for god's sake. \rrt:r afternoon for god's sake. no, no . slop— afternoon for god's sake. no, no . slop ll— afternoon for god's sake. no, no . slop ll. — afternoon for god's sake. no, no , no. stop it . three,- afternoon for god's sake. no, no , no. stop it . three, just- afternoon for god's sake. \rrt:r stop it . “trt:rt; , no. stop it. three, just stop. oil protesters have been arrested on suspicion of criminal damage at london's chelsea flower show . the woman chelsea flower show. the woman

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for gold and silver investment . for gold and silver investment. yes, well, i'm on the precinct rere— yes, well, i'm on the precinct lere ln— yes, well, i'm on the precinct here in boston.— yes, well, i'm on the precinct here in boston. in— yes, well, i'm on the precinct here in boston. in lincolnshire, a here in boston. in lincolnshire, e pleee— here in boston. in lincolnshire, e pleee wlere— here in boston. in lincolnshire, a place where brexit was eernpelgnel— a place where brexit was campaigned for hard and fast , a campaigned for hard and fast, a pleee— campaigned for hard and fast, a pleee wlere— campaigned for hard and fast, a place where they— campaigned for hard and fast, a place where they were campaigning just to even get a referendum— campaigning just to even get a referendum where 75% of people wenl— referendum where 75% of people wenl on— referendum where 75% of people wenl on lo— referendum where 75% of people went on to vote— referendum where 75% of people went on to vote for— referendum where 75% of people went on to vote for brexit. it's lne— went on to vote for brexit. it's lne leellng— went on to vote for brexit. it's the beating heart— went on to vote for brexit. it's the beating heart of brexit. nrlleln— the beating heart of brexit. britain here.— the beating heart of brexit. britain here-i- the beating heart of brexit. britain here. i wanted to britain here. and i wanted to lell— britain here. and i wanted to lell-rnen— britain here. and i wanted to talk-man who- britain here. and i wanted to talk man who also fought talk to a man who also fought lnerellllw— talk to a man who also fought incredibly hard— talk to a man who also fought incredibly hard in— talk to a man who also fought incredibly hard in places like llle— incredibly hard in places like llle orllnerw— incredibly hard in places like this ordinary towns outside of wow— this ordinary towns outside of wow ento— this ordinary towns outside of your major cities— this ordinary towns outside of your major cities to get that relerenlwrn— your major cities to get that referendum then to win it. referendum and then to win it. ano— referendum and then to win it. and we— referendum and then to win it. and llel en— referendum and then to win it. and that man joins me now. it is oller— and that man joins me now. it is none other than— and that man joins me now. it is none other than mr— and that man joins me now. it is none other than mr richard tice, wlo— none other than mr richard tice, wlole— none other than mr richard tice, wlole leeler— none other than mr richard tice, who-a leader of— none other than mr richard tice, who a leader of course, who is a leader of course, of reform — who is a leader of course, of lelorrn .— who is a leader of course, of reform .. richard,- who is a leader of course, of reform . richard, thank you reform uk. richard, thank you lew— reform uk. richard, thank you very nnel.— reform uk. richard, thank you very neon. wow— reform uk. richard, thank you very much. how are you ? c: very much. how are you? good ellernoon. — very much. how are you? good afternoon. well— very much. how are you? good afternoon. well the truth is i'm pretty gutted, actually. i think like millions of— pretty gutted, actually. i think like millions of people- 32 t ithink like millions of people up g 2 t i think like millions of people up and town— like millions of people up and town lne— like millions of people up and down the country— like millions of people up and down the country because we've been— down the country because we've been rnlelel. — down the country because we've been misled. we've- down the country because we've been misled. �*vw�*rt; been misled. we've been deceived, we've been lied to by this conservative government that election after election on

promised to bring the immigration numbers down, which is what the majority of the british people want. and the brexit referendum itself, as you know, speaking to people where you are now in boston , it was you are now in boston, it was about taking back control of our laws, money and borders , and laws, money and borders, and they promised that they would bnng they promised that they would bring the numbers down and instead they have imposed deliberately a policy of open borders with a worker visa system and student visa system that's hugely open to abuse . and that's hugely open to abuse. and guess what? the numbers have almost trebled in the space of 2 or 3 years to 606,000. it's half of birmingham, half of birmingham has arrived in the united kingdom in just 12 months. patrick and here's the thing. no one's yet talking aboutin thing. no one's yet talking about in 2020. that was in 2022. in 2023, it will be the same or more so within two years. you've got a whole birmingham arriving in the uk . and what that means

in the uk. and what that means is our housing becomes ever more unaffordable for young people. it's harder to see a gp, it's harder to get an operation to waiting lists grow and the fact is we've been misled , we've been is we've been misled, we've been lied to. no one will ever trust. richard i'm going to cut across you now because i've just got to ask you this. all right. i've twel— ask you this. all right. i've teel gol— ask you this. all right. i've teel gol lo— ask you this. all right. i've just got to ask— ask you this. all right. i've just got to ask you- all right. i've just got to ask you this, llelerel— just got to ask you this, richard. okay.- just got to ask you this, richard. okay. so i'm speaking to richard. okay. so i'm speaking lollol— richard. okay. so i'm speaking lollollpeople— richard. okay. so i'm speaking to lot people here. and to a lot of people here. and wlel— to a lot of people here. and wlel llew-re— to a lot of people here. and what they're scratching their peele— what they're scratching their leele lo — what they're scratching their leele lo ln— what they're scratching their heads to try to— what they're scratching their heads to try to understand is, is heads to try to understand is, le-wlw— heads to try to understand is, le-wlwleerll- heads to try to understand is, is-why.earth this. heads to try to understand is, is why earth this is is really why on earth this is ellll— is really why on earth this is still—they're- is really why on earth this is. still—they're-of still happening. they're sick of broken— still happening. they're sick of broken government been in conservative government been in power— conservative government been in power lor— conservative government been in power for re— conservative government been in power now for 13 years. there is a power now for 13 years. there is e—leel— power now for 13 years. there is e—leelllrwel- power now for 13 years. there isi a_lack.trust and a fundamental lack of trust and llle— a fundamental lack of trust and this-anecdotal- a fundamental lack of trust and this anecdotal from this is just anecdotal from people— this is just anecdotal from people ln— this is just anecdotal from people i'm talking here people i'm talking to here about we— people i'm talking to here about wlel—renw- people i'm talking to here about wlel—renw ee- people i'm talking to here about what party are going what the labour party are going to what the labour party are going lo lrlng— what the labour party are going to bring forward. _ what the labour party are going to bring forward. i— what the labour party are going to bring forward. i will be epeellng— to bring forward. i will be epeellng lo— to bring forward. i will be speaking to labour later to bring forward. i will be- speaking to llabour-later on speaking to a labour mp later on in speaking to a labour mp later on ln-llowgl— speaking to a labour mp later on ln-llowgl lo— speaking to a labour mp later on in _though to .theirl in the show though to get their lele— in the show though to get their lele-wlel— in the show though to get their take _what are - in the show though to get their take what are reform take on this. what are reform ollerlng— take on this. what are reform offering that's— take on this. what are reform offering that's different? because, to because, richard, i've got to be loneel— because, richard, i've got to be loneel wlll— because, richard, i've got to be honest with you, _ because, richard, i've got to be honest with you, you might be gelle— honest with you, you might be gene—lne. - honest with you, you might be quite—this. your. quite pleased with this. your neeonl— quite pleased with this. your nenelon-ol- quite pleased with this. your namelon-of lips- quite pleased with this. your name on of lips here in name is on a lot of lips here in noelon. — name is on a lot of lips here in noelon. .wnel— name is on a lot of lips here in boston. .what we're- name is on a lot of lips here in boston. “g boston. but what we're offering is the only zero the country is the only net zero the country wants net immigration so wants is net zero immigration so that the number of people that

we welcome to come and work and study uk equals the study in the uk equals the number who are leaving the uk. we've plenty of people here. we've got plenty of people here. we've got plenty of people here. we've our own people we've got to get our own people skilled, and back into skilled, trained and back into work. we've got 1 in 8, one out of work benefits that's costing us all a vast sum of money. so we net zero immigration and we need net zero immigration and reform. uk patrick is the only party that stands for that and i think is the only party that people will trust to actually deliver it . one thing, richard, deliver it. one thing, richard, llel— deliver it. one thing, richard, llel le— deliver it. one thing, richard, that is stands— deliver it. one thing, richard, that is stands out— r2rt; c one thing, richard, that is stands out like a sore llwrnl— that is stands out like a sore llwrnl were— that is stands out like a sore thumb here is— that is stands out like a sore thumb here is the number of reerwllrnenl— thumb here is the number of recruitment shops . there's four recruitment shops. there's four in recruitment shops. there's four ln noelon. — recruitment shops. there's four ln noelon. ll— recruitment shops. there's four in boston. if not— recruitment shops. there's four in boston. if not the biggest el— in boston. if not the biggest el ell— in boston. if not the biggest area at all. and— in boston. if not the biggest area at all. and when you look in area at all. and when you look ln lne— area at all. and when you look in the windows— area at all. and when you look in the windows of— area at all. and when you look in the windows of these shops, it in the windows of these shops, ll elwerleee— in the windows of these shops, it advertises the— in the windows of these shops, it advertises the kind of jobs we— it advertises the kind of jobs llel ee— it advertises the kind of jobs that are-offer— it advertises the kind of jobs that are offer now. big that are on offer now. big agricultural— that are on offer now. big agricultural sector around here in agricultural sector around here ln noelon— agricultural sector around here in boston,_fruit- in boston, a lot of fruit plelere— in boston, a lot of fruit- pickers,-agricultural pickers, a lot of agricultural ung— pickers, a lot of agricultural land,-farms- pickers, a lot of agricultural land,-farms .- pickers, a lot of agricultural land, farms . and what land, a lot of farms. and what llew-re—lllngel they're advertising for things llle— they're advertising for things llle lll— they're advertising for things llle pg lo— they're advertising for things like £11 to £14— they're advertising for things like £11 to £14 an hour are people— like £11 to £14 an hour are people lo— like £11 to £14 an hour are people to come- like £11 to £14 an hour are people to come and help out with rnenwel— people to come and help out with manual labour— people to come and help out with manual labour there. but all of the manual labour there. but all of lne-ln— manual labour there. but all of lne-lniol— manual labour there. but all of the-in.of those- the signs in all of those wlnlowe— the signs in all of those windows have- the signs in all of those windows have got the flags of the countries,— windows have got the flags of the countries, of— windows have got the flags of the countries, of the people who windows have got the flags of the (have ies, of the people who windows have got the flags of the (have translatorspeople who windows have got the flags of the (have translators in)ple who windows have got the flags of the (have translators in house �*io they have translators in house in they have translators in house ln llere. — they have translators in house ln llere. _ol—

they have translators in house in there. of eastern in there. a lot of eastern lwropeen— in there. a lot of eastern european countries in there wooll— european countries in there would_indeed| european countries in there- would_indeed should would reform uk or indeed should this conservative— would reform uk or indeed should this conservative government be long— this conservative government be lwlng—loree- trying to bring into force eornelllng— trying to bring into force something british something where british businesses— something where british businesses-to- something where british businesses to try to businesses have to try to reenl— businesses have to try to recruit british _ businesses have to try to recruit british workers first? lnee-e— recruit british workers first? rlere-e no — recruit british workers first? there's no question- recruit british workers first? there's no question that- recruit british workers first? there's no question that british businesses big businesses have an obligation . as was always the an obligation. as was always the case, to try and to skill up and to pay fair wages for a fair day's work from , um, from from day's work from, um, from from british people. what's happened is big business has recognised it. when we were in the eu they could import huge numbers of cheap, low skilled overseas labour and therefore they didn't need to train up british people. here's the thing though, patrick. if you can't find the laboun patrick. if you can't find the labour, then you invest in capital equipment to replace the laboun capital equipment to replace the labour. that's how the combine harvester arrived . it's as harvester arrived. it's as simple as that. so if they can't find the machine, sorry, the people pick the fruit, people to pick the fruit, they'll invest equipment, they'll invest in new equipment, new technology to pick the fruit by machines . that's what should by machines. that's what should happen. shouldn't be an happen. it shouldn't be an excuse just to import hundreds

of thousands of cheap . labour of thousands of cheap. labour look, richard, thank you very nnel— look, richard, thank you very nnel lor— look, richard, thank you very much for your— look, richard, thank you very much for your time. that's llelerl— much for your time. that's richard tysoe,_ much for your time. that's richard tysoe, who's the leader of richard tysoe, who's the leader or reorrnl — richard tysoe, who's the leader or reorrnl wk.— richard tysoe, who's the leader of reform uk.-this- richard tysoe, who's the leader of reform uk. this really is of reform uk. and this really is in of reform uk. and this really is ln—eelwellw- of reform uk. and this really is in _ actually the - in many ways actually the epleenlre— in many ways actually the epicentre brexit, britain, epicentre of brexit, britain, where— epicentre of brexit, britain, wlere ln— epicentre of brexit, britain, where i'm standing right now, lellewe— where i'm standing right now, peeve-not— where i'm standing right now, believe not, because this believe it or not, because this is believe it or not, because this le-eepllel- believe it or not, because this le-eepllel ol- believe it or not, because this is capital of britain is the brexit capital of britain enl— is the brexit capital of britain enl llle— is the brexit capital of britain and this really— is the brexit capital of britain and this really is— is the brexit capital of britain and this really is where people oornlng— and this really is where people were coming force, were coming out in force, eelllng— were coming out in force, eelllng-rnorel were coming out in force, calling-more so| were coming out in force,- calling-more so than calling arguably more so than enwwlere— anywhere else for that referendum— anywhere else for that referendum massive referendum than today's massive net referendum than today's massive nel rnlgrellon— referendum than today's massive net migration numbers drop. of : ung— net migration numbers drop. of course , land, i— net migration numbers drop. of course , land, i should say, course, land, i should say, reellw— course, land, i should say, really, because _ course, land, i should say, really, because they've gone up wrongl— really, because they've gone up llrowgl-rool— really, because they've gone up through roof. 606,000 now, through the roof. 606,000 now, eooooo— through the roof. 606,000 now, oooooo people— through the roof. 606,000 now, 900,000 people arriving from non eu 900,000 people arriving from non lu eownrleel— 900,000 people arriving from non eu countries. now— 900,000 people arriving from non eu countries. now when i come peel:— eu countries. now when i come peel: ln— eu countries. now when i come peel: r-rn going— eu countries. now when i come back, i'm going to— eu countries. now when i come back, i'm going to be talking to a back, i'm going to be talking to e loeel— back, i'm going to be talking to a local business— back, i'm going to be talking to a local business ownerjust back, i'm going to be talking to a local business owner just to try a local business owner just to lo lo— a local business owner just to lrw lo gel— a local business owner just to lrw lo gel e— a local business owner just to try to get a flavour really for wlel— try to get a flavour really for wlel lneee — try to get a flavour really for what these numbers mean. this is lee— what these numbers mean. this is lere—ewppoeellw- here in boston, supposedly enwwew— here in boston, supposedly enwwewlleeel- here in boston, supposedly anyway, least integrated anyway, the least integrated lown— anyway, the least integrated lown ee— anyway, the least integrated town as well— anyway, the least integrated town as well .— anyway, the least integrated town as well . so i'm going to be town as well. so i'm going to be lelllng— town as well. so i'm going to be lelllng lo— town as well. so i'm going to be lelllng lo e— town as well. so i'm going to be talking to a local— town as well. so i'm going to be talking to a local business owner when i— talking to a local business owner when i come back for gb wewe— owner when i come back for gb news-migration— owner when i come back for gb news-migration-il news net migration special. i wlll— news net migration special. i wlll eleo:— news net migration special. i will also, .the _ news net migration special. i will also, the way, be to will also, by the way, be to lelllng—rowl will also, by the way, be to. talking—tory mps will also, by the way, be to- talking_tory mps , talking labour mps, tory mps, eleolwlelw— talking labour mps, tory mps, absolutely including absolutely everybody, including lernogrepnle— absolutely everybody, including demographic experts. make demographic experts. so make ewe—wow- demographic experts. so make ewe—wow eweei sure you don't take your eyes off-migration- sure you don't take your eyes off migration special off this net migration special

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the people's. channel yes. well, hello, the people's. channel- . yes. well, hello, everybody. the people's. channel- . yes. christys llo, everybody. the people's. channel- . yes. christys for everybody. the people's. channel- . yes. christys for here ybody. the people's. channel- . yes. christys for here gb dy. is patrick christys for here gb wewe. — is patrick christys for here gb wewe. anl — is patrick christys for here gb news. and this,— is patrick christys for here gb news. and this, of course, is on nel— news. and this, of course, is on nel-epeelel— news. and this, of course, is on net-special..you're| net migration special. if you're wonlerlng— net migration special. if you're wonlerlng-ern- net migration special. if you're wondering am, this is wondering where i am, this is noelon.—perl- wondering where i am, this is noelon.—perl ol| boston. or at least a part of it. _lincolnshire.i boston. or at least a part of. it. _lincolnshire. and it. anyway in lincolnshire. and it. anyway in lincolnshire. and llllle— it. anyway in lincolnshire. and llllle newl— it. anyway in lincolnshire. and it the brexit backing capital it is the brexit backing capital of it is the brexit backing capital or nrlleln. — it is the brexit backing capital of britain. 75%— it is the brexit backing capital of britain. 75% people voted of britain. 75% of people voted for newl— of britain. 75% of people voted for brexit and— of britain. 75% of people voted for brexit and today is a record day— for brexit and today is a record eew wlen— for brexit and today is a record eew wlen ll— for brexit and today is a record day when it comes to net rnlgrellon. — day when it comes to net migration. okay, so 606,000 lowlle— migration. okay, so 606,000 lowlle llel— migration. okay, so 606,000 double that of— migration. okay, so 606,000 double that of the pre brexit. hi. remember— double that of the pre brexit. hi. remember those heady days of the hi. remember those heady days of we prornleee— hi. remember those heady days of lne pronleee ol— hi. remember those heady days of the promises of the— hi. remember those heady days of the promises of the tens of lloweenlee— the promises of the tens of thousands? well, that isn't neppenlng— thousands? well, that isn't happening, ladies and gentlemen, is i happening, ladies and gentlemen, le-r-eorne— happening, ladies and gentlemen, le-r-eorne-lo- is it? and i have come here to epeel— is it? and i have come here to speak-business— is it? and i have come here to speak business owners, local speak to business owners, local eownelllore—ee- councillors, politicians, as well— councillors, politicians, as well-whole- councillors, politicians, as well whole host of just well as a whole host of just orllnew— well as a whole host of just. ordinary—about ordinary local residents. about low— ordinary local residents. about low rnew— ordinary local residents. about how they - about - ordinary local residents. about how they about rapid how they feel about rapid lernogrepnle— how they feel about rapid demographic ,— how they feel about rapid demographic , rapid population demographic, rapid population elenge:— demographic, rapid population change, etcetera— demographic, rapid population change, etcetera , and whether or change, etcetera, and whether or not change, etcetera, and whether or nol leew— change, etcetera, and whether or nol llew reel— change, etcetera, and whether or not they feel let— change, etcetera, and whether or not they feel let down may i renlnl— not they feel let down may i rernlnl wow— not they feel let down may i remind you that— not they feel let down may i remind you that today is the day we— remind you that today is the day llel lne— remind you that today is the day that the opinion— remind you that today is the day that the opinion polls drop that eppeer— that the opinion polls drop that eppeer lo— that the opinion polls drop that eppeer lo elow— that the opinion polls drop that appear to show that the labour party— appear to show that the labour renwlnow— appear to show that the labour party now believed be the

party is now believed to be the party— party is now believed to be the perry-collo— party is now believed to be the party-could best- party is now believed to be the party could best control party that could best control oer-rlel— party that could best control oer-rlel le- party that could best control. our-that islmassive our borders. that is a massive plow— our borders. that is a massive blow conservatives. now blow for the conservatives. now in blow for the conservatives. now ln twel— blow for the conservatives. now in teel prolellw— blow for the conservatives. now in just probably about 20 rnlnwlee— in just probably about 20 minutes-i'm- in just probably about 20 minutes i'm going in just probably about 20 minutes-i'm going be minutes time, i'm going to be epeellng— minutes time, i'm going to be epeellngle— minutes time, i'm going to be epeellngle-wew- minutes time, i'm going to be speaking a very high speaking to a very, very high profile— speaking to a very, very high profile labour— speaking to a very, very high profile labour thangam profile labour mp, thangam nellonelre:— profile labour mp, thangam nellonrne ,— profile labour mp, thangam debbonme here— profile labour mp, thangam debbonme here on the show. so joining me here on the show. so well— joining me here on the show. so we-ll le— joining me here on the show. so we'll be talking— joining me here on the show. so we'll be talking about all of llle— we'll be talking about all of llle e— we'll be talking about all of this, a demographic expert as well— this, a demographic expert as well r— this, a demographic expert as well r wenl— this, a demographic expert as well. i want to— this, a demographic expert as well. i want to hear from you. noee— well. i want to hear from you. leee-eee— well. i want to hear from you. does area, everything that does this area, everything that wow-we— does this area, everything that wow-we-leerl- does this area, everything thati you've-heard-it you've seen and heard about it so you've seen and heard about it eolrernlnl— you've seen and heard about it so.remind-your- you've seen and heard about it so remind your area? you've seen and heard about it so is'emind your area? you've seen and heard about it so is the nd your area? you've seen and heard about it so is the kind your area? you've seen and heard about it so is the kind of your area? you've seen and heard about it so is the kind of placer area? you've seen and heard about it so is the kind of place thata? this is the kind of place that eew— this is the kind of place that eew llneler— this is the kind of place that gary lineker doesn't want you to eee-reellwe— gary lineker doesn't want you to eee-reellwe-le- see, isn't it really? this is lne— see, isn't it really? this is we llnl— see, isn't it really? this is the kind of— see, isn't it really? this is the kind of place that right the kind of place that is right at the kind of place that is rightl el—nel at the coalface of massive net rnlgrellon. — migration. does your area feel the migration. does your area feel we teller— migration. does your area feel the better-it?— migration. does your area feel the better-it? gb- migration. does your area feel the better it? gb views at the better for it? gb views at gb the better for it? gb views at on wewe— the better for it? gb views at gb news .com,_ the better for it? gb views at gb news .com, but of course it ten-l— gb news .com, but of course it len-l lne— gb news .com, but of course it len-l lne onw— gb news .com, but of course it isn't the only story— gb news .com, but of course it isn't the only story in town for us isn't the only story in town for we lolew. — isn't the only story in town for us today. that's— isn't the only story in town for us today. that's right . we are isn't the only story in town for us tcgoing hat's right . we are isn't the only story in town for us tcgoing to t's right . we are isn't the only story in town for us tcgoing to be right . we are isn't the only story in town for us tcgoing to be talking/e are isn't the only story in town for us tcgoing to be talking nowa isn't the only story in town for us tcgoing to be talking now and also going to be talking now and i'm also going to be talking now and ten-le— also going to be talking now and r-rn-le elowlng- also going to be talking now and i'm be showing you i'm going to be showing you a wonderful— i'm going to be showing you a wonderful-e- wonderful package, a heartwarming of true heartwarming package of a true llle— heartwarming package of a true llwe nrlllel— heartwarming package of a true blue british hero— heartwarming package of a true blue british hero ,— heartwarming package of a true blue british hero , flight blue british hero, flight sergeenl— blue british hero, flight sergeant peter brown died alone egel— sergeant peter brown died alone egel ac,— sergeant peter brown died alone egel gg, ln— sergeant peter brown died alone aged 96, in west— sergeant peter brown died alone aged 96, in west london in neeernler. — aged 96, in west london in december. “ c “ december. initially, his funeral was set to take place in a smaller venue in march. but after a campaign was launched to find surviving members of his family a bigger venue had to be

found after huge public interest in life. story those are in peter's life. story those are the wings of blue spread over europe. peter was one of, if not the last of the so—called pilots of the caribbean . born in of the caribbean. born in jamaica in 1926, mr brown joined the raf in september 1943. he trained as a wireless operator and gunner on lancaster bombers before being posted to raf scampton in lincolnshire . when scampton in lincolnshire. when the war ended, he re—enlists as a signaller in the raf. after peter's death, an appeal was launched to find members of his family , rosemary, who believes family, rosemary, who believes she is his second cousin, came forward after reading the story onune forward after reading the story online. i forward after reading the story online . i click on this thing online. i click on this thing enl— online. i click on this thing enl ep— online. i click on this thing enl up come— online. i click on this thing and up comes this- i click on this thing and up comes this article about llle— and up comes this article about this gentleman— and up comes this article about this gentleman and start reeling.— this gentleman and start reading. and— this gentleman and start reading. and i'm thinking , oh reading. and i'm thinking, oh leer— reading. and i'm thinking, oh leer eoe:— reading. and i'm thinking, oh dear god, this— reading. and i'm thinking, oh dear god, this is— reading. and i'm thinking, oh dear god, this is my peter brown. — dear god, this is my peter brown. wol— dear god, this is my peter brown. not only- dear god, this is my peter brown. \rrt:rc dear god, this is my peter brown. kt; dear god, this is my peter brown. \rrt; dear god, this is my peter- brown. not only that , he looks brown. not only that, he looks caymanian that must be my peter brown. he left jamaica. he left his mother . brown. he left jamaica. he left his mother. his dad had passed away, but he left familiarity and life in jamaica, which at that time that's a big deal. you

know, when you go from cheshire or southampton to go and fight across the channel, that's far enough. but when you go all the way from jamaica to a new life and a new way of being , it's and a new way of being, it's a big it's a big service. kim was a big it's a big service. kim was e nelgllowr— big it's a big service. kim was a neighbour of— big it's a big service. kim was a neighbour of peter- irrg c g kim was a neighbour of peter brown g c lg kim was a neighbour of peter brown for nenl— a neighbour of peter brown for rnenw weere— a neighbour of peter brown for rnenw weere rn— a neighbour of peter brown for many years in life. you meet lew— many years in life. you meet wew lew— many years in life. you meet very rew lngll— many years in life. you meet very few bright spot in life eornelolw— very few bright spot in life somebody that— very few bright spot in life somebody that you would think, wow— somebody that you would think, r— somebody that you would think, r en— somebody that you would think, wow, i am so pleased that i knew him— wow, i am so pleased that i knew llrn llel— wow, i am so pleased that i knew llrn llel r— wow, i am so pleased that i knew llrn llel r nnel— wow, i am so pleased that i knew him, that i met him— wow, i am so pleased that i knew him, that i met him and peter brown— him, that i met him and peter brown le— him, that i met him and peter brown le one— him, that i met him and peter brown is one of— him, that i met him and peter brown is one of those people. he we— brown is one of those people. he pollen.— brown is one of those people. he was stylish, always- brown is one of those people. he was stylish, always carried himself well with dignity , himself well with dignity, smartly dressed, always smiling. every conversation i had with peter ended with laughter or me walking away, smiling . peter was walking away, smiling. peter was one of an estimated—

“rlg c “rlg peter was one of an estimated 10,000 people— one of an estimated 10,000 people wlo— one of an estimated 10,000 people who came from the cerllleen— people who came from the caribbean to— people who came from the caribbean to join the british wnee— caribbean to join the british armed forces— caribbean to join the british armed forces during world war ll — armed forces during world war ll ne— armed forces during world war ll ne mele— armed forces during world war ll ne nele e— armed forces during world war ii. he made a huge- armed forces during world war ii. he made a huge contribution . he, along with thousands of other persons from the uk worldwide , but of particular worldwide, but of particular interest to us, obviously , is interest to us, obviously, is that he was one of the thousands from the caribbean and jamaica actually had the largest contingents in world war ii. everybody was a significant is everybody was a volunteer. they were not conscripted. they volunteered somewhat. some of them paid their own way across them paid their own way across the atlantic . i asked him what the atlantic. i asked him what ele— the atlantic. i asked him what ele lllnle— the atlantic. i asked him what she thinks. peter— ;5“crt i asked him what she thinks. peter would have llowgll— she thinks. peter would have llowgll ol— she thinks. peter would have thought of all— she thinks. peter would have thought of all the attention now ewrrownllng— thought of all the attention now surrounding him. _ thought of all the attention now surrounding him. i think he wooll— surrounding him. i think he would say , as he used to say would say, as he used to say when he thought something was funny and would say , oh, funny and he would say, oh, something, oh, can you believe it? you know, like an old jamaican guy. oh, can you believe it? i think he actually would be so pleased that that

people can write about him. lisa hartle gb news, london. ole.— lisa hartle gb news, london. olew so— lisa hartle gb news, london. okay, so welcome— lisa hartle gb news, london. okay, so welcome back- lisa hartle gb news, london. okay, so welcome back to boston. as i've been telling you, it is, of course, the brexit backing heartland of the uk. now as i've been and about talking to been out and about talking to people here throughout the course they're all course of the day, they're all telling me one thing infrastructure, major infrastructure, major infrastructure, infrastructure for this population has grown by at least 10% in the last ten years. as a direct result of mass migration . the population mass migration. the population who are english born here is on the decrease . and of course the decrease. and of course foreign born people are indeed on the rise . people are telling on the rise. people are telling me left, right and centre that they are unable to get gp appointments , that the housing appointments, that the housing crisis here is very , very real, crisis here is very, very real, that battle to access basic that the battle to access basic pubuc that the battle to access basic public services is a daily, daily struggle. but i just thought now i'll show you a little bit from catherine force a political reporter on how on a record day for net migration figures, a day that the government did not plan for how

we got here. net migration needs to come down radically from hundreds of thousands a year to just tens of thousands. we do want to bring net— 2 we do want to bring net migration down to sustainable— want to bring net migration down to sustainable levels. �*vw�*rt; to sustainable levels. we lellewe— to sustainable levels. we believe that— to sustainable levels. we believe that is— to sustainable levels. we believe that is the tens of thousands. the answer here is to eonlrol— thousands. the answer here is to control immigration. _ thousands. the answer here is to control immigration. i- 2 the answer here is to control immigration. i think the numbers are too high and i'm committed to bringing them down. we've had 13 years of conservative - we've had 13 years of conservative prime ministers pledging— conservative prime ministers plelglng lo— conservative prime ministers plelglng lo owl— conservative prime ministers pledging to cut net migration, yet pledging to cut net migration, wel lne— pledging to cut net migration, yet the numbers— pledging to cut net migration, yet the numbers have gone up and up. wow— yet the numbers have gone up and up. now reeellng— yet the numbers have gone up and up. now reaching a— yet the numbers have gone up and up. now reaching a new record nen.— up. now reaching a new record llgl. now— up. now reaching a new record nlgn. now lll— up. now reaching a new record high. how did we— up. now reaching a new record high. how did we get here until the high. how did we get here until we eerlw— high. how did we get here until we eerlw eee— high. how did we get here until the early 80s, britain was a net exponen— the early 80s, britain was a net exporler ol— the early 80s, britain was a net exporter of people— the early 80s, britain was a net exporter of people , but under exporter of people, but under new— exporter of people, but under new lelowr— exporter of people, but under new lelowr ,— exporter of people, but under new labour , net— exporter of people, but under new labour , net migration new labour, net migration lneeeeel— new labour, net migration increased fivefold and driven by nee— increased fivefold and driven by free movement— increased fivefold and driven by free movement within the lwropeen— free movement within the european union, which expanded eeelwerle— european union, which expanded eeelwerle .— european union, which expanded eeelwerle. rn— european union, which expanded eastwards . in 2004, brexit was eastwards. in 2004, brexit was won on a promise— eastwards. in 2004, brexit was won on a promise to take back eonlrol— won on a promise to take back eonlrol ,— won on a promise to take back control , including— won on a promise to take back control , including of won on a promise to take back control, including of our lorlere— control, including of our lorlere .— control, including of our borders . britain would decide borders. britain would decide wlo— borders. britain would decide who eerne— borders. britain would decide who came and— borders. britain would decide who came and numbers would fall. wow— who came and numbers would fall. wow lne— who came and numbers would fall.

now the government— who came and numbers would fall. now the government does have eonlrol— now the government does have eonlrol enl— now the government does have control and an— now the government does have control and an australian point ewelern— control and an australian point ewelern: lnl— control and an australian point system, but the— control and an australian point system, but the numbers have ewrgeel— system, but the numbers have eergel. we-we— system, but the numbers have surged. we've offered sanctuary to surged. we've offered sanctuary lo relwgeee— surged. we've offered sanctuary to refugees from _ surged. we've offered sanctuary to refugees from ukraine, afghanistan— to refugees from ukraine, afghanistan and to hongkongers . afghanistan and to hongkongers. rlen— afghanistan and to hongkongers. rlen lne— afghanistan and to hongkongers. then the students— afghanistan and to hongkongers. then the students and the lepenlenle— then the students and the lepenlenle ,— then the students and the dependents , they bring dependent dependents, they bring dependent nwrnerel— dependents, they bring dependent nwrnerel ep— dependents, they bring dependent numbers are up eightfold since zero— numbers are up eightfold since zero enl— numbers are up eightfold since 2019 and this— numbers are up eightfold since 2019 and this week the government— 2019 and this week the government announced a crackdown and government announced a crackdown enl coneewellwe— government announced a crackdown and conservative party deputy clelrrnen— and conservative party deputy chairman matt— and conservative party deputy chairman matt vickers highlights elengee— chairman matt vickers highlights elengee ln— chairman matt vickers highlights onengee ln lne— chairman matt vickers highlights changes in the way net migration is changes in the way net migration le reeorlel— changes in the way net migration le reeorlel . — changes in the way net migration is recorded . huge— changes in the way net migration is recorded . lgrt is recorded. huge numbers were being missed in the past and actually if you speak to the people responsible for recording, they'll tell you that there difference in there is a huge difference in there is a huge difference in the we're recording. the way that we're recording. and impact is that those and the impact is that those nwrnerel— and the impact is that those numbers are not— and the impact is that those numbers are not being inflated. reel-re— they're actually just being made accurate where previously they wereeeewree-l - accurate where previously they were accurate. there's were in no way accurate. there's eleo— were in no way accurate. there's eleo e— were in no way accurate. there's eleo e pelle— were in no way accurate. there's also a battle raging— were in no way accurate. there's also a battle raging at the top of government. _ also a battle raging at the top of government. o” rt.rt; of government. the home office wants to get numbers down. he is the beleaguered home secretary just last week there is no good reason why we can't train up enough truck drivers, butchers , enough truck drivers, butchers, fruit pickers, builders or

welders. brexit enables us to pull— welders. brexit enables us to pull e— welders. brexit enables us to pull e llgl— welders. brexit enables us to build a high skilled- 2 brexit enables us to build a high skilled , high wage build a high skilled, high wage eenrnoow— build a high skilled, high wage eenrnoow llel— build a high skilled, high wage economy that is— build a high skilled, high wage economy that is less dependent on low— economy that is less dependent on low skilled— economy that is less dependent on low skilled foreign labour. lleenwllle— on low skilled foreign labour. meanwhile, the— on low skilled foreign labour. meanwhile, the treasury- on low skilled foreign labour. meanwhile, the treasury and departments such as education and health want immigrants to plug and health want immigrants to plug gaps and to grow our sluggish economy. yet we've a record . 5.3 million adults on record. 5.3 million adults on out of work benefits . it's out of work benefits. it's looking at the welfare system enl— looking at the welfare system enl enewrlng— looking at the welfare system and ensuring that the incentives are and ensuring that the incentives lnee— and ensuring that the incentives llere lor— and ensuring that the incentives are there for some— and ensuring that the incentives are there for some of our own people— are there for some of our own people lo— are there for some of our own people lo lele— are there for some of our own people to take on— are there for some of our own people to take on some of the lone— people to take on some of the role llel— people to take on some of the jobs that we're— people to take on some of the jobs that we're currently relying— jobs that we're currently relying foreign relying on cheap foreign labour to-government- relying on cheap foreign labour to government makes to do. the government makes a lot to do. the government makes a lol or— to do. the government makes a lol or noee— to do. the government makes a lot of noise about— to do. the government makes a lot of noise about illegal nlgrellon— lot of noise about illegal migration stopping migration and stopping the lone:— migration and stopping the lone-wlll— migration and stopping the boats,-with a- migration and stopping the boats, with a housing crisis boats, but with a housing crisis enl— boats, but with a housing crisis enl pelle— boats, but with a housing crisis and public services under etern— and public services under strain, pollster- and public services under strain, pollster james johnson eewe— strain, pollster james johnson eewelnew— strain, pollster james johnson eewe lnew neel— strain, pollster james johnson says they need to get legal rnlgrellon— says they need to get legal migration down _ says they need to get legal migration down in a recent poll for lne— migration down in a recent poll for we lllnl— migration down in a recent poll for the think tank— migration down in a recent poll for the think tank centre for rollew— for the think tank centre for policy studies— for the think tank centre for policy studies ,— for the think tank centre for policy studies , 59% said that policy studies, 59% said that lrnrnlgrellon— policy studies, 59% said that immigration in— policy studies, 59% said that immigration in this country is too immigration in this country is loo llgl. — immigration in this country is too high. when— immigration in this country is too high. �*tfl�*“t:“ lgrt:r trt: too high. when you go anywhere in the country and do focus groups, whether it's in those safe conservative seats in the south or whether it's in those

seats in the red wall, immigration is always on top of mind for the conservatives with a general election “l with a general election looming next weer— a general election looming next weer gelling— a general election looming next weer gelllng nel— a general election looming next year getting net migration down will year getting net migration down wlll neel— year getting net migration down wlll neel lo— year getting net migration down will need to be— year getting net migration down will need to be a— year getting net migration down will need to be a key focus. cellerlne— will need to be a key focus. catherine force _ will need to be a key focus. catherine force .— will need to be a key focus. catherine force . gb news. �*vw�*rt;t catherine force. gb news. well, today— catherine force. gb news. well, lolew le— catherine force. gb news. well, lolew ls e— catherine force. gb news. well, today is a record— catherine force. gb news. well, today is a record day.- catherine force. gb news. well, today is a record day. 606,000 is the net migration figure , is the net migration figure, double that pre brexit. as i've been telling you of course, i am in boston today and this is the perfect place to be. we are the people's channel. i've been out and about speaking to people people's channel. i've been out and ab0|this eaking to people people's channel. i've been out and ab0|this place] to people people's channel. i've been out and ab0|this place] to peopa because this place voted in a droves for brexit and of course they voted cut migration at they voted to cut migration at every election, every every single election, every single opportunity to vote for about the last 20 years. but if you look around here now, unfortunately, this is also an area that is , i think, quite area that is, i think, quite representative of many high streets in britain. we've got shops closing just around you there, street over there, the high street over there, the high street over there is frankly being quite decimated . and as well, what you decimated. and as well, what you will able to see just over my will be able to see just over my shoulder there potentially anyway, distance is one

anyway, in the distance is one of many recruiting hubs. of these many recruiting hubs. and windows of that, and in the windows of that, there recruitment there are recruitment adverts for pickers and for low for fruit pickers and for low skilled economic migrants. and thatis skilled economic migrants. and that is the kind of migration that is the kind of migration that people in this area are saying they're seeing far saying that they're seeing far too and is too much of. and it is undercutting the local workforce, which is why the workforce, which is why in the next going to be next hour i'm going to be drilling the economy. drilling down on the economy. when need when people say that we need this migration in this level of net migration in order to boost growth, do we actually need it? what about the demographic changes? we're seeing 900,000 people coming from countries . that from non eu countries. that will mean demographic change mean high demographic change will demographic expert will have a demographic expert on. i'm also going be talking on. i'm also going to be talking to bob his party to tory mp bob seely. his party have wheels come off. have have the wheels come off. have the faith been lost in the conservative and who conservative party? and who better after better to try to mop up after him? labour shadow cabinet him? but labour shadow cabinet minister thangam debbonaire, she'll be joining me live on this show to talk about what labour will do differently. is it true that labour is now the party that will be able to control our borders better? that's what the opinion polls appear christys appear to show. patrick christys here on the streets of boston out and about in lincolnshire

for migration special for our net migration special afternoon . alex deegan here with afternoon. alex deegan here with wow— afternoon. alex deegan here with your leleel— afternoon. alex deegan here with your leleel en— afternoon. alex deegan here with your latest gb news— “ alex deegan here with your latest gb news weather from the your latest gb news weather from we wel— your latest gb news weather from we we onlee. — your latest gb news weather from the met office. the— your latest gb news weather from the met office. the next few eewe— the met office. the next few lewe wlll— the met office. the next few eewe wlll le— the met office. the next few days will be similar to the last lew— days will be similar to the last few eewe.— days will be similar to the last rew eewe. noel— days will be similar to the last few days. most of— days will be similar to the last few days. most of us staying dry :-epelle— few days. most of us staying dry ,-spells pleasantly- few days. most of us staying dry , spells pleasantly warm , sunny spells pleasantly warm in , sunny spells pleasantly warm ln lne— , sunny spells pleasantly warm in the sunshine— , sunny spells pleasantly warm in the sunshine without being too in the sunshine without being loo lol. — in the sunshine without being loo lol. nlgl— in the sunshine without being too hot. high pressure is slowly elglng— too hot. high pressure is slowly elglng ln— too hot. high pressure is slowly elglng ln enl— too hot. high pressure is slowly edging in and it's— too hot. high pressure is slowly edging in and it's been dominating— edging in and it's been dominating our weather for much of dominating our weather for much or llle— dominating our weather for much or llle weel. — dominating our weather for much of this week. and— dominating our weather for much of this week. and we'll continue to of this week. and we'll continue lo lonlnele— of this week. and we'll continue to dominate our— of this week. and we'll continue to dominate our weather through the to dominate our weather through lne weelenl. — to dominate our weather through the weekend. there are some ol— the weekend. there are some areas of cloud.— the weekend. there are some areas of cloud. it's not been llle— areas of cloud. it's not been blue-everywhere- areas of cloud. it's not been blue everywhere either blue skies everywhere either wrongl— blue skies everywhere either through-today,- blue skies everywhere either through today, but that through the day today, but that clone— through the day today, but that elowl lenllng— through the day today, but that cloud tending to— through the day today, but that cloud tending to melt away across-england. cloud tending to melt away across-england the across northern england and the wlllenle— across northern england and the midlands-the- across northern england and the midlands the night time midlands through the night time and midlands through the night time enllrnlgll— midlands through the night time enllrnlgll twel— midlands through the night time and might just turn a little and it might just turn a little rnew— and it might just turn a little rnlelw ln— and it might just turn a little rnlelw ln r— and it might just turn a little rnlelw ln ll2_ and it might just turn a little misty in 1 2 spots. the cloud misty in 1 or 2 spots. the cloud wlll— misty in 1 or 2 spots. the cloud will increase— misty in 1 or 2 spots. the cloud will increase western will increase across western pelle— will increase across western parts-scotland - will increase across western partslscotland .- will increase across western parts scotland . some spots of parts of scotland. some spots of lrlzzle— parts of scotland. some spots of drizzle heading— parts of scotland. some spots of drizzle heading towards the weelern—ol- drizzle heading towards the. western _oflchilly western isles. a bit of a chilly tool— western isles. a bit of a chilly loo-nonlern— western isles. a bit of a chilly too, northern scotland. too, one, in northern scotland. cleer— too, one, in northern scotland. neg-pg...— too, one, in northern scotland. clear here. temperatures clear skies here. temperatures cooll— clear skies here. temperatures eowll gel— clear skies here. temperatures could get freezing and could get close to freezing and roller— could get close to freezing and further south _ could get close to freezing and further south will— could get close to freezing and further south will be down into elngle— further south will be down into elngle rlgeree— further south will be down into single figures where we have eleer— single figures where we have clear some sunshine. then clear skies, some sunshine. then to clear skies, some sunshine. then lo elerl— clear skies, some sunshine. then lo elerl rrllew— clear skies, some sunshine. then to start friday, soon— clear skies, some sunshine. then to start friday, soon lifting lne— to start friday, soon lifting the temperatures again, perhaps a the temperatures again, perhaps e-elowl— the temperatures again, perhaps e-elowl ep— the temperatures again, perhaps a-cloud up over- the temperatures again, perhaps a cloud up over some a bit more cloud up over some eenlrel— a bit more cloud up over some eenlrel eeee— a bit more cloud up over some central areas and— a bit more cloud up over some central areas and certainly elowller— central areas and certainly cloudier tomorrow over northern

seollenl— cloudier tomorrow over northern eoollenl .— cloudier tomorrow over northern eoollenl . a— cloudier tomorrow over northern scotland . a little— cloudier tomorrow over northern scotland . a little bit of scotland. a little bit of lrlzzle— scotland. a little bit of drizzle likely- scotland. a little bit of drizzle likely over the highlands,— highlands, perhaps into the weelern— highlands, perhaps into the western-later- highlands, perhaps into the western later on. but for western isles later on. but for lne— western isles later on. but for lne-nnelorllw— western isles later on. but for lne-nelorllw ow- western isles later on. but for lne-nelorllw lw ,- western isles later on. but for the majority, dry , bright, the vast majority, dry, bright, a the vast majority, dry, bright, e llle— the vast majority, dry, bright, a little _than - the vast majority, dry, bright, a little than today , a little warmer than today, temperatures— a little warmer than today, temperatures getting widely into the temperatures getting widely into lne low— temperatures getting widely into lne low eee— temperatures getting widely into lne low eee or— temperatures getting widely into the low 20s or high teens. alwewe— the low 20s or high teens. alwewe e— the low 20s or high teens. alwewe e lll— the low 20s or high teens. always a bit cooler on some eoeeel— always a bit cooler on some eoeeel wlere— always a bit cooler on some coasts where we'll have the tree— coasts where we'll have the breeze coming— coasts where we'll have the breeze coming in from a relellwelw— breeze coming in from a relatively chilly sea, turning gelle— relatively chilly sea, turning gelle onlllw— relatively chilly sea, turning quite chilly again on friday ewenlng— quite chilly again on friday evening with— quite chilly again on friday evening with mostly clear skies ellll— evening with mostly clear skies ellll eoe— evening with mostly clear skies still some thicker— evening with mostly clear skies still some thicker cloud across norllern— still some thicker cloud across northern scotland _ still some thicker cloud across northern scotland . we'll see northern scotland. we'll see newne— northern scotland. we'll see newle e— northern scotland. we'll see maybe a little— northern scotland. we'll see maybe a little bit of rain relwrnlng— maybe a little bit of rain returning here - maybe a little bit of rain returning here as we head into weelrnlneler— returning here as we head into westminster going around in westminster is going around in leereeelng— westminster is going around in ever decreasing circles followed by_ _ ever decreasing circles followed by_ lrlleln- ever decreasing circles followed by_ lrlleln le- ever decreasing circles followed. by_ britain is broken. by the media. britain is broken. how on earth did we get into this mess? but more importantly, how do we get out of it ? join me how do we get out of it? join me at 7 pm. monday to thursdays on farage here on gb news, we will have open rational debate . we've have open rational debate. we've got to work out how britain moves forward from this. join us here on gb news, the people's . here on gb news, the people's. channel start the day with gb

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special on gb news, who's. aleolwlelw— special on gb news, who's. absolutely massive hour coming wow— absolutely massive hour coming your wew— absolutely massive hour coming your way r-we— absolutely massive hour coming your way be gol— absolutely massive hour coming your way, i've got bob seely, conservative— your way, i've got bob seely, conservative mp,— your way, i've got bob seely, conservative mp, very, very elorllw. — conservative mp, very, very elorllw. r— conservative mp, very, very shortly. i think— conservative mp, very, very shortly. i think his party have got shortly. i think his party have gol e— shortly. i think his party have gol e lol— shortly. i think his party have gol e lol lo— shortly. i think his party have got a lot to answer for. do you feel— got a lot to answer for. do you feel ln— got a lot to answer for. do you feel ln llgll— got a lot to answer for. do you feel in light of— got a lot to answer for. do you feel in light of these record llgwree— feel in light of these record rlgeree llel— feel in light of these record figures that you've been lied to enl— figures that you've been lied to enl llel— figures that you've been lied to and lied-lied— figures that you've been lied to and lied-lied to- figures that you've been lied to and lied lied to by the and lied to and lied to by the conservatives— and lied to and lied to by the conservatives who consistently run on a ticket— conservatives who consistently run on a ticket of— conservatives who consistently run on a ticket of bringing net rnlgrellon— run on a ticket of bringing net migration-well- run on a ticket of bringing net migration well shock migration down? well shock horror— migration down? well shock horror,-numbers- migration down? well shock horror, numbers thangam horror, record numbers thangam nellonelre— horror, record numbers thangam debbonaire shadow cabinet wlnleler— debbonaire shadow cabinet minister for— debbonaire shadow cabinet minister for the labour party. sle— minister for the labour party. sle wlll— minister for the labour party. sle wlll le— minister for the labour party. she will be on— minister for the labour party. she will be on this very show twel— she will be on this very show reel-nol— she will be on this very show reel-non seen.- she will be on this very show just bob seely. the just after bob seely. are the lelowr— just after bob seely. are the lelowr-now— just after bob seely. are the labour now more credible labour party now more credible llen— labour party now more credible llen-rorlee— labour party now more credible than-tories when- labour party now more credible than tories when it comes to than the tories when it comes to gelllng— than the tories when it comes to gelllng e— than the tories when it comes to gelllng e gnp— than the tories when it comes to getting a grip-mass- than the tories when it comes to getting a grip mass migration getting a grip of mass migration 7 getting a grip of mass migration e—lenogrepnleei getting a grip of mass migration. ?_demographics as ? what about the demographics as were—people- we're seeing more people errlwng— we're seeing more people ernwng nonn— we're seeing more people arriving from eu countries? arriving from non eu countries? noee—llel— arriving from non eu countries? does—that britain. arriving from non eu countries? does that britain will does that mean that britain will olenge— does that mean that britain will olenge-enl— does that mean that britain will change and change quicker ? change more and change quicker? i'll change more and change quicker? r-llllelllng— change more and change quicker? r-llllelllng lo— change more and change quicker? i'll-talking to a— change more and change quicker? i'll talking to a demographic i'll be talking to a demographic expen— i'll be talking to a demographic expert—economics. expert and do the economics eleel— expert and do the economics eleellwlen— expert and do the economics stack-when you- expert and do the economics stack when you add it all up, stack up when you add it all up, are stack up when you add it all up, we reellw— stack up when you add it all up, are we really better— stack up when you add it all up, are we really better off as a reenl— are we really better off as a reewll ol— are we really better off as a result of net— are we really better off as a result of net migration at this levele— result of net migration at this level? lnl— result of net migration at this level? lnl r— result of net migration at this level? and i will— result of net migration at this level? and i will be talking to lwo— level? and i will be talking to lwo people— level? and i will be talking to lwo people wlo— level? and i will be talking to two people who really got brexit lone. — two people who really got brexit lone. rnew— two people who really got brexit done. they campaigned on a elreel— done. they campaigned on a elreel twel— done. they campaigned on a street just behind me here now street just behind lne here now to street just behind me here now lo twel— street just behind me here now lo reel gel— street just behind me here now lo reel gel llel— street just behind me here now to just get that referendum, i

wlll— to just get that referendum, i wlll le— to just get that referendum, i will be joining— to just get that referendum, i will be joining you from the newl— will be joining you from the brexit heartland of britain ener— brexit heartland of britain eller wow— brexit heartland of britain after your headlines with polly . relrlel. — after your headlines with polly . patrick. thank— after your headlines with polly . patrick. after your headlines with polly .patrick. l: . patrick. thank you. good afternoon. the top story today, downing street has refused calls for rishi sunak to apologise , for rishi sunak to apologise, despite failing to reduce net migration, which has now risen to record levels . data released to record levels. data released lolew— to record levels. data released lolew elowe— to record levels. data released today shows migration- t 2 data released today shows migration numbers lo— today shows migration numbers rose to 606,000— today shows migration numbers rose to 606,000 last year. even eller— rose to 606,000 last year. even eller repeelel— rose to 606,000 last year. even after repeated government plelgee— after repeated government plelgeelo— after repeated government pledges to bring overall numbers town.— pledges to bring overall numbers lown. rne— pledges to bring overall numbers down. the immigration minister, reopen— down. the immigration minister, lolerl renrlel— down. the immigration minister, robert jenrick ,— down. the immigration minister, robert jenrick , says the robert jenrick, says the government _ robert jenrick, says the government is trying to tackle the government is trying to tackle lne — government is trying to tackle the issue. net— government is trying to tackle the issue. net migration is far loo— the issue. net migration is far loo llgl— the issue. net migration is far loo llgl . — the issue. net migration is far too high. this— the issue. net migration is far too high. this is— the issue. net migration is far too high . “ zrt5rt “rlg too high. this is placing intolerable pressure on public services, on housing supply and our ability to integrate people into our country. the conservative party has made a promise to reduce net migration and we're absolutely determined to do that . well, we've made to do that. well, we've made a very significant intervention this week, which will make a

tangible difference in reducing the number of student dependents that come our universities that come to our universities because universities should be in education business, not in the education business, not the immigration business. well, the immigration business. well, the shadow immigration minister, stephen kinnock says the government policy is to blame for the rise in numbers . for the rise in numbers. numbers are too high. they for the rise in numbers. - numbers are too high. they need to numbers are too high. they need lo corne— numbers are too high. they need lo lown. — numbers are too high. they need to come down. the— numbers are too high. they need to come down. the reason they've loel— to come down. the reason they've loel eonlrol— to come down. the reason they've lost control is— to come down. the reason they've lost control is because they lellel— lost control is because they lellel lo— lost control is because they failed to do _ lost control is because they failed to do enough to invest in elllle— failed to do enough to invest in elllle enl— failed to do enough to invest in skills and talent— failed to do enough to invest in skills and talent and career development— skills and talent and career development here in the uk. so ernplowere— development here in the uk. so ernplowere ee— development here in the uk. so employers are being forced to neeon— employers are being forced to reeel owl— employers are being forced to reach out for— employers are being forced to reach out for overseas migrant lelowr— reach out for overseas migrant labour because— reach out for overseas migrant labour because they don't have the labour because they don't have lne pipeline— labour because they don't have lne plpellne ol— labour because they don't have the pipeline of people that are reelw— the pipeline of people that are reelw lo— the pipeline of people that are reelw lo corne— the pipeline of people that are ready to come and work and ellreelel— ready to come and work and attracted as— ready to come and work and attracted as well— ready to come and work and attracted as well to the opportunities- attracted as well to the opportunities that are here in the opportunities that are here in we wl— opportunities that are here in we lrl .— opportunities that are here in we lrl . rn— opportunities that are here in the uk. in other— opportunities that are here in the uk . in other news, rishi the uk. in other news, rishi ennel— the uk. in other news, rishi senel lee— the uk. in other news, rishi sunak has welcomed the reduction in sunak has welcomed the reduction ln lne— sunak has welcomed the reduction ln lne energy— sunak has welcomed the reduction in the energy price— sunak has welcomed the reduction in the energy price cap described— in the energy price cap described it— in the energy price cap described it as a major milestone— described it as a major milestone towards his goal of lelwng— milestone towards his goal of halving inflation. o'lgrtf“ halving inflation. ofgem has announced the typical annual household energy bill will fall

to a maximum of £2,074 a year from july bannau. that's a drop of £426. as ofgem says, the first price drop in 18 months reflects recent falls in wholesale energy prices . now, wholesale energy prices. now, nine people have been arrested over the disorder in cardiff that followed the deaths of two teenagers on monday night. 16 year old kyrees sullivan and 15 year old kyrees sullivan and 15 year old kyrees sullivan and 15 year old harvey evans were killed in the ely area of the city whilst riding an e—bike. the police watchdog is investigating the road crash after cctv footage emerged showing a police van following the teens before their death . the teens before their death. cars were set alight and windows were smashed in. the violence that followed . 15 police that followed. 15 police officers were injured . new south officers were injured. new south wales police have confirmed all nine people were arrested on suspicion of rioting . meanwhile suspicion of rioting. meanwhile a german prosecutor has played down hopes of an imminent breakthrough in the search for missing madeleine mccann. police

renewed their 16 year hunt for the girl near a reservoir in portugal . but after three days, portugal. but after three days, officers appeared to be scaling back their efforts . back their efforts. investigators have been seen today packing up their tents and witnesses say british police who were assisting their portuguese and german counterparts had left by this afternoon . the first by this afternoon. the first minister of scotland has welcomed the police chief constable's statement , constable's statement, describing the force as institute racist. speaking at a meeting of the scottish police authority , sir ian livingstone authority, sir ian livingstone says people from different backgrounds aren't receiving the service that they should . his service that they should. his comments came just days after the force announced plans to enlist thousands of officers to stamp out discrimination. humza yousaf says racism within police scotland is unacceptable and that he'll do everything possible to dismantle it . there possible to dismantle it. there is no doubt that c there is no doubt that institutional racism exists— is no doubt that institutional racism exists in— is no doubt that institutional racism exists in our society, enl— racism exists in our society, enl r— racism exists in our society, enl r wenl— racism exists in our society, enl r wenl lo— racism exists in our society, and i want to take a moment to reel—

and i want to take a moment to reel eew— and i want to take a moment to reel eew llel— and i want to take a moment to reel eew lnel ee— and i want to take a moment to just say that as a— and i want to take a moment to just say that as a person of eowllo— just say that as a person of eownlo lne— just say that as a person of colour, the statement from the enter— colour, the statement from the chief constable _ colour, the statement from the chief constable is— colour, the statement from the chief constable is monumental, llelorle— chief constable is monumental, llelorle .— chief constable is monumental, llelorle . r— chief constable is monumental, historic. i remember raising issues around— historic. i remember raising issues around racism in the pole— issues around racism in the pollee force— issues around racism in the police force. strathclyde rolle— police force. strathclyde rollee: ee— police force. strathclyde police, as it— police force. strathclyde police, as it was back then , police, as it was back then, when— police, as it was back then, when r— police, as it was back then, when r wee— police, as it was back then, when i was stopped and searched over a dozen times— when i was stopped and searched over a dozen times as a young low— over a dozen times as a young boy . — over a dozen times as a young boy . international- over a dozen times as a young boy- \ over a dozen times as a young boy . l over a dozen times as a young boy. \ boy. international news and the wagner mercenary group has started withdrawing from the ukrainian city of bakhmut , ukrainian city of bakhmut, handing over its positions to russian forces. wagner's leader , yevgeny prigozhin, announced the capture of the eastern city five days ago after the longest and bloodiest battle of the war. ukraine's deputy defence minister has confirmed that regular russian troops have started replacing wagner mercenaries on the outskirts of the devastated city, but that their forces, that's ukrainian forces , remain inside a funeral forces, remain inside a funeral has been taking place today for one of the last raf pilots who was black and fought in the second world war flight sergeant

peter brown died alone last december, aged 96, at his home in west london. well, the funeral had initially been expected to be a low key affair after his family couldn't be traced . but today, hundreds of traced. but today, hundreds of mourners , including relatives, mourners, including relatives, community groups and celebrities, gathered to celebrate his life. mr brown was born in jamaica in 1926. he enlisted in the raf volunteer reserve in 1943 and carried out missions as a radio operator and a gunner with gb news more news as it happens. back now to . patrick good afternoon , everybody, and good afternoon, everybody, and welcome to boston in lincolnshire, which is the beating heart of brexit in britain, the highest proportion of brexit backers live right

here. now i'm joined by two of men.— here. now i'm joined by two of llern. wewe— here. now i'm joined by two of llern. we-we gol— “rt;trt; now i'm joined by two of them. we've got jonathan and yvonne— them. we've got jonathan and vvonne wow:— them. we've got jonathan and yvonne. now, these people were eernpelgnlng— yvonne. now, these people were eernpelgnlng reel— yvonne. now, these people were campaigning just to get a referendum.— campaigning just to get a referendum. i'm going to be lelllng— referendum. i'm going to be lelllng lo— referendum. i'm going to be talking to these— referendum. i'm going to be talking to these people very, verv— talking to these people very, very enorllv— talking to these people very, very shortly about whether or not very shortly about whether or nol llev— very shortly about whether or nol lnev reel— very shortly about whether or not they feel-let- very shortly about whether or not they feel let down. not they feel a bit let down. corne— not they feel a bit let down. cone-nonl- not they feel a bit let down. come - don't be - not they feel a bit let down. come don't be shy about come on in. don't be shy about wleller—leel- whether or not they feel a llle— whether or not they feel a llllle lll— whether or not they feel a little bit let— whether or not they feel a little bit let down by these eeorl— little bit let down by these eeorl nel— little bit let down by these record net migration figures. nel— record net migration figures. lnl lnee-e— record net migration figures. but there's a— record net migration figures. but there's a lot— record net migration figures. but there's a lot digest when but there's a lot to digest when it but there's a lot to digest when ll—nwrnlere. - it comes to these numbers. and the it comes to these numbers. and lne—lo— it comes to these numbers. and lne—loll- it comes to these numbers. and the_to.it.our| the perfect man to do it is our verv— the perfect man to do it is our very own— the perfect man to do it is our very own darren— the perfect man to do it is our very own darren mccaffrey our polllleel— very own darren mccaffrey our pollen—cel- political editor, darren cut wrongl— political editor, darren cut llrowgl-lor- political editor, darren cut through _for us. political editor, darren cut- through _for us. please through the noise for us. please ween.— through the noise for us. please ween-gooe— through the noise for us. please yeah, - good afternoon - through the noise for us. please yeah,-good afternoon ,- yeah, very good afternoon, patrick. as you say, we have not seen net migration figures on the scale in this country ever before. net migration, of course, are the number of people who arrive minus the number of people who leave and last year it was 606,000. now there are three main factors driving moving these figures. first of all is students and their dependents. that's sometimes family members who come with students to this country. that has increased quite substantially, though it must be said , the government seem to be said, the government seem to be determined to protect the university sector in terms of

foreign student numbers. they argue they contribute tens of billions of pounds the billions of pounds to the british lower british economy and help lower fees domestically because they pay fees domestically because they pay however for the pay more. however for the government are going to take steps to try and lower the number of dependents allowed to arrive. many questioning why as an undergraduate, for example, you need a family member to accompany you to the uk. the second big driver are refugees, if you like legal refugees, those arriving from afghanistan, from hong kong , more notably from hong kong, more notably this year, from , um, ukraine. this year, from, um, ukraine. now the government makes a case that one of the reasons the figures are so high this year is because of those exceptional circumstances and that actually this coming year were less likely to see refugees in those numbers from those countries arrive in british shores. and then the third is effectively designed by brexit. it's the visa work scheme, if you like, where the government has opened up certain employer and job prospects for foreigners to come here and work in certain industries, whether that's the health sector , whether it's the health sector, whether it's the

care sector , whether that is in care sector, whether that is in the agricultural sector sector, frankly, because we need workers, there is a shortage of workers, there is a shortage of workers in this country , though workers in this country, though many will point out there are millions of people who are not at work who are living on incapacity benefit. but all in all, the government are struggling with these numbers. they repeatedly said they want to see them lowered. do you remember phrase, of remember that phrase, tens of thousands? a long thousands? well, we're a long way but rishi sunak way off that. but rishi sunak the prime minister on the breakfast or this morning breakfast or the this morning sofa , was suggesting that breakfast or the this morning sofdoes , was suggesting that breakfast or the this morning sofdoes wantias suggesting that breakfast or the this morning sofdoes want to suggesting that breakfast or the this morning sofdoes want to see gesting that breakfast or the this morning sofdoes want to see numbersiat breakfast or the this morning sofdoes want to see numbers come he does want to see numbers come down, but there's no clear plan on how to do so. numbers are too high. it's as simple as that. and— high. it's as simple as that. and r— high. it's as simple as that. and r went— high. it's as simple as that. and i want to— high. it's as simple as that. and i want to bring them down and that's why this week we announced some new measures. and i think pretty much the biggest thing that anyone's ever announced to bring the levels of migration new migration down. and it's a new policy which limits the amount of members that people of family members that people who are studying here can bring with them when they come and study here. and what we've seen over is that over the last few years is that number has just

number of dependents has just absolutely almost . absolutely spiralled almost. 150,000 dependents of people who are studying here coming. we're saying from now on, that's not going allowed. so saying from now on, that's not going allowed . so what's going to be allowed. so what's leeelnellng— going to be allowed. so what's fascinating is— going to be allowed. so what's fascinating is that— going to be allowed. so what's fascinating is that in- lgrt:r “rlg 2 so what's fascinating is that in many waysr— fascinating is that in many ways, immigration is a less polenl— ways, immigration is a less polenl reewe— ways, immigration is a less potent issue than it has been for new— potent issue than it has been for nenw wee — potent issue than it has been for many years. many people do not for many years. many people do nol vlwe— for many years. many people do nol ll— for many years. many people do nol ll ee— for many years. many people do not view it as a— for many years. many people do not view it as a number one pnorllw. — not view it as a number one pnonlw. rn— not view it as a number one priority. in fact— not view it as a number one priority. in fact ,— not view it as a number one priority. in fact , actually, priority. in fact, actually, wlen— priority. in fact, actually, wlen wow— priority. in fact, actually, when you pull- priority. in fact, actually, when you pull people, they say llew-re— when you pull people, they say llew-re e— when you pull people, they say lnew-re e lll— when you pull people, they say they're a bit more— when you pull people, they say they're a bit more relaxed about they're a bit more relaxed about we nwrnerel— they're a bit more relaxed about the numbers coming in. however, wlll— the numbers coming in. however, wlll-eonllnwe— the numbers coming in. however, will-continue to— the numbers coming in. however, will-continue to be- the numbers coming in. however, will continue to be the will that continue to be the wlll— will that continue to be the case with these— will that continue to be the case with these record numbers of case with these record numbers or people— case with these record numbers of people arriving— case with these record numbers of people arriving in the uk ? of people arriving in the uk? lnl— of people arriving in the uk? lnl eeol— of people arriving in the uk? and second of— of people arriving in the uk? and second of all, i think for lne— and second of all, i think for the conservative— and second of all, i think for the conservative party and for the conservative party and for the government,— the conservative party and for the government, this why it's the government, this is why it's lrlelw—gol- tricky. patrick they've got eornpellng— tricky. patrick they've got. competing _you've competing interests. you've got the competing interests. you've got lne—eewlngi the education secretary saying, we—elwlenle- the education secretary saying, we students, you've we need these students, you've got we need these students, you've gol-rreeewrw— we need these students, you've gol-rreeewrw-we- got the treasury saying we need lneee— got the treasury saying we need these workers. _ got the treasury saying we need these workers. you've many these workers. you've got many eoneervellve— these workers. you've got many conservative saying still conservative mps saying we still neel— conservative mps saying we still neeo—enl— conservative mps saying we still need and generous to need to be open and generous to eewlwn— need to be open and generous to eewlwn-lrorn— need to be open and generous to asylum from certain asylum seekers from certain eownrleel— asylum seekers from certain countries. and— asylum seekers from certain countries. and then you've got the countries. and then you've got lne-renw— countries. and then you've got lne-perlw lne- countries. and then you've got the party, the labour the labour party, the labour party— the labour party, the labour party ,— the labour party, the labour lenw : wlo— the labour party, the labour lenw , wno ee— the labour party, the labour party , who are now more trusted party, who are now more trusted on rnlgrellon— party, who are now more trusted on migration than— party, who are now more trusted on migration than the conservatives, and they feel eonlorl— conservatives, and they feel comfort enough— conservatives, and they feel comfort enough to beat the governrnenl— comfort enough to beat the government around the head with lneee— government around the head with lneee-lolew— government around the head with these-today saying- government around the head with these today saying that these figures today saying that llew-ve — these figures today saying that lnew-ve loel— these figures today saying that

they've lost control. so all in at.— they've lost control. so all in ell r— they've lost control. so all in ell r lllnl— they've lost control. so all in all, i think rishi— they've lost control. so all in all, i think rishi is all, i think rishi sunak is going— all, i think rishi sunak is goinglget_ all, i think rishi sunak is going-get the- all, i think rishi sunak is going get the numbers down. going to get the numbers down. but going to get the numbers down. lnl—or but as previous conservatives of enne— but as previous conservatives of rrlrne—eeen- but as previous conservatives of lrlrneeeen— lleli prime ministers have seen that eewlng— prime ministers have seen that eewlnglwenl— prime ministers have seen that eewlnglwenl lo— prime ministers have seen that saying, want to see lower saying, you want to see lower rnlgrellon— saying, you want to see lower rnlgrellon le— saying, you want to see lower rnlgrellon le e— saying, you want to see lower migration is a lot— saying, you want to see lower migration is a lot easier than eelwellw— migration is a lot easier than actually delivering on it . actually delivering on it. aleolwlelw. — actually delivering on it. absolutely. darren,- actually delivering on it. absolutely. darren, thank you very, very much. darren mccaffrey there. our political edhon mccaffrey there. our political editor. now, i am on this high street in boston in lincolnshire. i've got two very special look, we special guests for me. look, we are the people's channel. darren has so has given you wonderful. so the national picture there. okay, but let's localise because but let's localise it because all often think it all all too often i think it all gets lost in the noise about what the reality of these large scale record net migration numbers for your ordinary numbers are for your ordinary common woman in places common man and woman in places like boston, in lincolnshire . like boston, in lincolnshire. now, like i said, i've got two very going now, like i said, i've got two ve get going now, like i said, i've got two ve get them going now, like i said, i've got two ve get them to going now, like i said, i've got two ve get them to introduce going to get them to introduce themselves to you. squeeze on in here. so you're jonathan and jonathan. a jonathan. you, of course, were a ukip then conservative ukip and then a conservative councillor, correct? councillor, is that correct? correct yvonne is here correct yes. and yvonne is here as ? that's right. so. and as well? that's right. so. and yvonne, same for yvonne, are you the same for you? yes so you were ukip and then most then conservative? i most certainly now , both of certainly was, yes. now, both of you, this is a very special street you. we're going

you, this is a very special stiwalk you. we're going you, this is a very special stiwalk backwards�*re going you, this is a very special stiwalk backwards down going you, this is a very special- stiwalk backwards down itjoing to walk backwards down it a llle— to walk backwards down it a llllle lll— to walk backwards down it a little bit now.— to walk backwards down it a little bit now. and if you just wlll— little bit now. and if you just come with me,— little bit now. and if you just come with me, please, if that's olew—wlw- come with me, please, if that's olew—wlw lllel okay. just to explain why this elreel: — okay. just to explain why this elreel:—we- okay. just to explain why thisj street,_we when street, it's just here we when we were campaigning for a reeenwrnll— we were campaigning for a referendum, so— we were campaigning for a referendum, so we go back that re. — referendum, so we go back that re. we— referendum, so we go back that re. we neel— referendum, so we go back that far. we used to— referendum, so we go back that far. we used to set— referendum, so we go back that far. we used to set up- referendum, so we go back that far. �*tfvlrt; t. 2 t. t far. we used to set up our tables here and have printed material on and would pass it to the material to anybody who was interested. i the material to anybody who was interested . i only ever had one interested. i only ever had one peeon— interested. i only ever had one peo llel— interested. i only ever had one person that wasn't— 2 i only ever had one person that wasn't interested enl— person that wasn't interested enl llle— person that wasn't interested and this person— person that wasn't interested and this person was swore at me, and this person was swore at lne, but and this person was swore at me, lnl llel— and this person was swore at me, lnl llel wee— and this person was swore at me, but that was okay. _ and this person was swore at me, but that was okay. but this was to campaign to just to get a referendum . just to get a referendum. just to get a referendum. _ referendum. just to get a referendum. we- it;�*"rt;trt;“l just to get a referendum. �*tfvlrt; wizt;it; referendum. just to get a referendum. we were here in rain , snow, you name it. we referendum. we were here in rain , snow, you name it . we were , snow, you name it. we were here leeewee— , snow, you name it. we were here because we— , snow, you name it. we were here because we were- t we were here because we were dedicated . here because we were dedicated. we here because we were dedicated. we wenlel— here because we were dedicated. we wanted what— here because we were dedicated. we wanted what we wanted and we wenlel— we wanted what we wanted and we wenlel ll— we wanted what we wanted and we wenlel ll lor— we wanted what we wanted and we wanted it for boston— we wanted what we wanted and we wanted it for boston because the ernownl— wanted it for boston because the ernownl ol— wanted it for boston because the amount of immigration that we had amount of immigration that we let llen— amount of immigration that we let llen wee— amount of immigration that we had then was was— amount of immigration that we had then was was unsustainable . had then was was unsustainable. olew. — had then was was unsustainable. olew. ween.— had then was was unsustainable. olew. ween. olnw— had then was was unsustainable. okay. yeah. okay. now— had then was was unsustainable. okay. yeah. okay. now i'm- had then was was unsustainable. / irtrw okay. yeah. okay. now i'm just going to bring you in. jonathan. just walk with me a little bit here in light of what yvonne is

wonderfully just said. there you were at coal face of that were at the coal face of that brexit referendum with her as well. how do feel about well. how do you feel about the net migration numbers that are dropped what dropped today? is that what you voted is what you told voted for? is that what you told people vote for? it's not people to vote for? it's not what i voted— people to vote for? it's not what i voted for a lot of what i voted for. for a lot of conservatives, we feel deeply let down by the government. we've for years we've had talk for years by various conservative spokesmen llel—lrlngl that they were going to bring lrnrnlgrellon— that they were going to bring immigration-it- that they were going to bring immigration it hasn't immigration down. it hasn't neppenel.— immigration down. it hasn't. lnppeneel—lle happened. i haven't seen the figure— happened. i haven't seen the llgwree-lwl— happened. i haven't seen the figures but understand figures today, but i understand it's figures today, but i understand ll-e—lllel it's probably something like 700.000.— it's probably something like 700,000..it's_ it's probably something like 700,000. it's greater now 700,000. so it's greater now lien—ol- 700,000. so it's greater now than—of brexit.. 700,000. so it's greater now. than—of brexit. the than at the time of brexit. the onw— than at the time of brexit. the onlw gooe— than at the time of brexit. the onlw good porn— than at the time of brexit. the only good point is— than at the time of brexit. the only good point is at least we leven-l— only good point is at least we leven-l-lle— only good point is at least we haven't-the eu- only good point is at least we haven't the eu telling us haven't got the eu telling us wlo— haven't got the eu telling us who we— haven't got the eu telling us who we should— haven't got the eu telling us who we should and shouldn't ellow— who we should and shouldn't allow-at— who we should and shouldn't allow-at least— who we should and shouldn't allow at least we have some allow in. at least we have some elernenl— allow in. at least we have some elernenl ol— allow in. at least we have some element of control.— allow in. at least we have some element of control. there should we looee lo— element of control. there should we choose to exercise it. and when— we choose to exercise it. and wlen—polnlel we choose to exercise it. and- when_points based when we do have a points based ewelen— when we do have a points based ewelern. nel— when we do have a points based system. but-are- when we do have a points based system. but are concerned system. but people are concerned lere— system. but people are concerned lee—ol- here in boston, the level of lnrnlgrellon— here in boston, the level of immigration_the| immigration is so high, the preeewre ll— immigration is so high, the pressure it puts— immigration is so high, the pressure it puts schools , pressure it puts on schools, loolore— pressure it puts on schools, doctors, hospitals pressure it puts on schools,| doct so r,-hospitals pressure it puts on schools, doct so on, hospitals pressure it puts on schools, doct so on, the hospitals pressure it puts on schools, doct so on, the price ospitals pressure it puts on schools, doct so on, the price ofiitals pressure it puts on schools, doct so on, the price of housing, and so on, the price of housing, renle— and so on, the price of housing, renle lere— and so on, the price of housing, renle lere ln— and so on, the price of housing, rents here in boston at the llgleel— rents here in boston at the nlgneel ln— rents here in boston at the highest in lincolnshire . so highest in lincolnshire. so llel-e— highest in lincolnshire. so were lne— highest in lincolnshire. so that's the issue . the young that's the issue. the young people— that's the issue. the young people wlo— that's the issue. the young people who are— that's the issue. the young people who are in schools and in ol— people who are in schools and in or lne— people who are in schools and in some of the local— people who are in schools and in some of the local secondary eeloole— some of the local secondary schools, we're _ some of the local secondary schools, we're talking about 40, 45. schools, we're talking about 40, lo. rnew— schools, we're talking about 40, lo. rlew wlll— schools, we're talking about 40, 45. they will learn— schools, we're talking about 40, 45. they will learn english very gwlellw. — 45. they will learn english very quickly. - integrate - 45. they will learn english very quickly-integrate .- quickly. they will integrate.

lnee-e— quickly. they will integrate. there's—there . quickly. they will integrate. there's—there ,i there's no problem there, pernepe— there's no problem there, pernepe wlll— there's no problem there, perhaps with with the parents, it's perhaps with with the parents, ll-e e— perhaps with with the parents, it's a different— perhaps with with the parents, it's a different matter. they neel— it's a different matter. they need lo— it's a different matter. they need to learn— it's a different matter. they need to learn the language. so, yes,— need to learn the language. so, wee-twel— need to learn the language. so, wee-leer lne— need to learn the language. so, yes, just the economic yes, it's just the economic pressures are unsustainable and eornelllng— pressures are unsustainable and eornelnlng neele— pressures are unsustainable and something needs to be done. most eoneervellvee— something needs to be done. most conservatives are— something needs to be done. most conservatives are very disappointed. we haven't done rnorelgel— disappointed. we haven't done rnorelgel ll— disappointed. we haven't done more .get it down - disappointed. we haven't done more get it down because more to get it down because llel-e—lew- more to get it down becausej that's—key issue that's a traditional key issue for conservatives— that's a traditional key issue for conservatives getting immigration— for conservatives getting immigration down. ' 2 for conservatives getting immigration down. “l immigration down. and that is wet— immigration down. and that is llel le— immigration down. and that is that is fascinating. i'm just going bring you both back going to bring you both back a little bit here. the traffic is cleared up a bit now so we can kind back into the kind of get back into the pedestrian of things. pedestrian side of things. but yvonne, was the reason yvonne, what was the main reason that guys from ukip to that you guys went from ukip to the party? well, that you guys went from ukip to the personally,)arty? well, that you guys went from ukip to the personally,)art'ukip ell, for me personally, we ukip eeeel— for me personally, we ukip seemed starting to mess seemed to be starting to mess elow— seemed to be starting to mess elowl. wlgel— seemed to be starting to mess about. nigel had— seemed to be starting to mess about. nigel had moved and the people— about. nigel had moved and the people wlo— about. nigel had moved and the people who wee— about. nigel had moved and the people who were in authority llln-l— people who were in authority didn't inspire— people who were in authority didn't inspire me in any way. lnl— didn't inspire me in any way. lnl r— didn't inspire me in any way. lnl r tell— didn't inspire me in any way. and i felt ukip— didn't inspire me in any way. and i felt ukip was just going lown— and i felt ukip was just going lown lne— and i felt ukip was just going lown lne pen. — and i felt ukip was just going down the pan. okay. i've always peen— down the pan. okay. i've always been e— down the pan. okay. i've always been a conservative and i think eoneervellve— been a conservative and i think conservative conservatism and being— conservative conservatism and being e— conservative conservatism and lelng e wlll— conservative conservatism and being a ukip to— conservative conservatism and being a ukip to work well logeller— being a ukip to work well logeller .— being a ukip to work well together . and— being a ukip to work well together . and i being a ukip to work well together. and i just decided i'd nel—

together. and i just decided i'd lel enowgl— together. and i just decided i'd lel enowgl ll— together. and i just decided i'd had enough if i— together. and i just decided i'd had enough if i felt embarrassed at had enough if i felt embarrassed el wlll.— had enough if i felt embarrassed at ukip. unfortunate the way it progreeeel— at ukip. unfortunate the way it progreeeel enl— at ukip. unfortunate the way it progressed and that's why i leellel— progressed and that's why i leellel lo— progressed and that's why i decided to walk— progressed and that's why i decided to walk across the floor. — decided to walk across the floor. olew. — decided to walk across the floor. okay. now- decided to walk across the floor. irtrw decided to walk across the- floor. okay. now one of the big reasons for you, jonathan, if you just come to me a little bit here was because you thought that conservatives would get that the conservatives would get brexit done quicker. that was that motto, wasn't it, that was the motto, wasn't it, to done and here we to get brexit done and here we are now, you know, however many years line, these years down the line, these record migration figures and record net migration figures and it's as well as you it's important as well as you were to and this is were alluding to and this is something i think it needs to be made abundantly migration made abundantly clear migration from way down. from eu countries is way down. it's countries in this it's non eu countries in this should should it not, the should be, should it not, the stuff that we were promised that we would be in control of ? we would be in control of? that's correct. and let's go peel— that's correct. and let's go leel lo— that's correct. and let's go back to 2017. _ that's correct. and let's go back to 2017. theresa may prornleel— back to 2017. theresa may promised strong and stable leelerellp— promised strong and stable leadership. we— promised strong and stable leadership. we had weak and wolllw— leadership. we had weak and wobbly leadership, she was a leenelnen— wobbly leadership, she was a remainer. she— wobbly leadership, she was a remainer. she didn't believe in newl— remainer. she didn't believe in bell. ner— remainer. she didn't believe in brexit. her so—called brexit leel—lell-lni brexit. her so—called brexit- deal—left-in the deal would have left her in the elngle— deal would have left her in the single _customs single market and the customs union-lonel- single market and the customs union. joined ukip , so we union. but we joined ukip, so we wenl— union. but we joined ukip, so we wenl nonn— union. but we joined ukip, so we went from ukip— union. but we joined ukip, so we went from ukip to— union. but we joined ukip, so we went from ukip to the conservatives thought went from ukip to the conslgettives thought went from ukip to the conslget brexit thought went from ukip to the conslget brexit done. thought went from ukip to the conslget brexit done. it thought went from ukip to the conslget brexit done. it took)ught we'd get brexit done. it took olvlowelw— we'd get brexit done. it took obviously another three years.

none— obviously another three years. none-gelllng- obviously another three years. boris getting elected boris johnson getting elected as eoneervellve— boris johnson getting elected as. eoneervellve—e conservative leader and he won a significant— conservative leader and he won a significant-majority.- significant 20 seat majority. but— significant 20 seat majority. in since— significant 20 seat majority. but since then,— significant 20 seat majority. but since then, of course not ensign— but since then, of course not ensign nas— but since then, of course not enough has been— but since then, of course not enough has been done to control inninniisn— enough has been done to control immigration. they— enough has been done to control immigration. they haven't solved the-people— immigration. they haven't solved the-people issue,- immigration. they haven't solved the people issue, which is the boat people issue, which is anoinsn— the boat people issue, which is another bonus— the boat people issue, which is another bonus contention with the another bonus contention with in nonnni— another bonus contention with the normal population or sorry, nosi— the normal population or sorry, nssi nniiisn— the normal population or sorry, most british people , i would say most british people, i would say sinn— most british people, i would say okay, absolutely— most british people, i would say okay, absolutely . _ most british people, i would say okay, absolutely . ' z most british people, i would say okay, absolutely . ' i: c okay, absolutely. and it's important that you mention that really, jonathan, because when i come back, what i'm going to be talking is the illegal talking about is the illegal side of migration britain at side of migration in britain at the moment. i'm going to go to mark white, who is our home and security he's dover security editor. he's in dover for had the record for us. we had the record numbers migration numbers of illegal migration into this country. but what about what's been going on in the channel? jonathan, the channel? yvonne jonathan, thank you very much. this the thank you very much. this is the brexit in brexit britain. brexit street in brexit britain. and let's be honest, they're not happy. and let's be honest, they're not happy- you and let's be honest, they're not happy. you in a tick happy. i'll see you in a tick

people's channel, britain's news . channel welcome . channel- . welcome back. . channel— . welcome back. on . cnnnnei— l welcome back. on a . channel welcome back. on a record day, it gb news net migration it is gb news net migration special brought you in boston special brought to you in boston lincolnshire . now we are here lincolnshire. now we are here because this is an area supposedly anyway with the least amount of integration . that's amount of integration. that's what we're hearing. it was also the area, of course, with the highest percentage the brexit highest percentage of the brexit vote where better to come for a perfect microcosm the perfect little microcosm of the way of way that record levels of net migration local migration are affecting local people better to people and who better to talk to than some local people step forward. lee, how are you? good, very good. and just explain a little bit your business, very good. and just explain a little heart. your business, very good. and just explain a little heart. sorry, ur business, very good. and just explain a little heart. sorry, ur bibeen;s, your heart. sorry, i've been keeping around in keeping him stood around in a hoodie a while. explain

hoodie for a while. just explain to us a little bit about what you what your business is. you do, what your business is. yes well, we run three holiday inns— “4115 well, we run three holiday lets accommodation “4115 well, we run three holiday lerenovation accommodation “4115 well, we run three holiday le renovation companynodation “4115 well, we run three holiday le renovation company ,)dation “4115 well, we run three holiday le renovation company , ronan a renovation company, ronan nensvniisn— a renovation company, ronan nensvniisn. — a renovation company, ronan renovation . and- a renovation company, ronan renovation . ' i: a renovation company, ronan renovation . ' “2 "it; 325; renovation. and so we're busy very busy. so we've seen the positives and the negatives of the mass migration. okay, let's start with some— the mass migration. okay, let's start with some positives,- start with some positives, iesense— start with some positives, because let's— start with some positives, because let's be honest, when inese— because let's be honest, when these numbers— because let's be honest, when these numbers come out and they are these numbers come out and they sneekine— these numbers come out and they are shocking for— these numbers come out and they are shocking for people, people can are shocking for people, people ieei— are shocking for people, people ieei ven— are shocking for people, people can feel very let— are shocking for people, people can feel very let down, espeeieiiy— can feel very let down, especially in- can feel very let down, especially in a brexit heartland.- especially in a brexit heartland. a lot of tory voters ieei— heartland. a lot of tory voters ieei ven— heartland. a lot of tory voters ieei very angry,— heartland. a lot of tory voters feel very angry, for example, eni— feel very angry, for example, and we've had— feel very angry, for example, and we've had quite a few neeeiive— and we've had quite a few negative comments this show negative comments on this show so negative comments on this show se—ieii— negative comments on this show se—ieii us— negative comments on this show so_tell us what- so far. so just tell us what ei— so far. so just tell us what some of the— so far. so just tell us what some of the positives you think are some of the positives you think ene—i— some of the positives you think ene—i nei- some of the positives you think ene—i nee ie- are in this area. if i had to neeen— are in this area. if i had to neeeni e— are in this area. if i had to hazard a guess,- are in this area. if i had to hazard a guess, i would say it's a big— hazard a guess, i would say it's a big agricultural— hazard a guess, i would say it's a big agricultural area for a sien. — a big agricultural area for a- sien. _we-ve start. absolutely. yeah. we've got farms got two of the biggest farms around here, clements and staples and they employ thousands of migrants for the workforce, which the uk does need. we do need that that additional manpower and they're hard workers. you know , we see hard workers. you know, we see every day when we leave the house, we see, you know, many of them out in the fields and grafting . yeah. hard work. yeah,

grafting. yeah. hard work. yeah, absolutely. and grafting. yeah. hard work. yeah, absolutely . and as well, i just absolutely. and as well, i just nene— absolutely. and as well, i just neni ie— absolutely. and as well, i just want to reiterate— absolutely. and as well, i just want to reiterate ,— did and as well, i just want to reiterate , there are want to reiterate, there are ioni— want to reiterate, there are neen—agenciesl want to reiterate, there are- four_agencies that four recruitment agencies that i-ve— four recruitment agencies that ive anyway— four recruitment agencies that i've seen anyway in boston, nnien— i've seen anyway in boston, nnien is— i've seen anyway in boston, which is quite— i've seen anyway in boston, which is quite amazing really, iense— which is quite amazing really, iense ii-s— which is quite amazing really, because it's not— which is quite amazing really, because it's not the biggest which is quite amazing really, becauin it's not the biggest which is quite amazing really, becauin the not the biggest which is quite amazing really, becauin the world.e biggest which is quite amazing really, becauin the world. and gest which is quite amazing really, becauin the world. and what you place in the world. and what you seeni-nsnsi— place in the world. and what you see _windows there - place in the world. and what you see windows there is see in the windows there is nniiinie— see in the windows there is multiple languages, multiple different languages, nosi— multiple different languages, nssi si— multiple different languages, most of-from - multiple different languages, most of from eastern most of them from the eastern innsneen— most of them from the eastern european pens— most of them from the eastern european parts the world. it european parts of the world. it nnsi— european parts of the world. it nne-ions— european parts of the world. it must-jobs being- must be said, jobs being advertised— must be said, jobs being advertised _iii must be said, jobs being advertised _11 £14 advertised for around 11 to £14 an advertised for around 11 to £14 en nonn— advertised for around 11 to £14 en none-si— advertised for around 11 to £14 an hour.-of that- advertised for around 11 to £14 an hour.-of that in- advertised for around 11 to £14 an hour. of that in fruit an hour. a lot of that in fruit pissing,— an hour. a lot of that in fruit pissing, e— an hour. a lot of that in fruit pissing, e iss— an hour. a lot of that in fruit picking, a lot of— an hour. a lot of that in fruit picking, a lot of that in food nneinsiisn— picking, a lot of that in food production as— picking, a lot of that in food production as well. and those are production as well. and those ene-si— production as well. and those ene-sf people- production as well. and those are of people who we are the kinds of people who we seeing— are the kinds of people who we were seeing _on - are the kinds of people who we were seeing on sitting were seeing earlier on sitting esnni— were seeing earlier on sitting ensnni-isnn- were seeing earlier on sitting around town squares there around in the town squares there sein— around in the town squares there enn-nomine- early on in the morning and a niniins— early on in the morning and a niniins-nnii- early on in the morning and a minibus-pull up.- early on in the morning and a minibus pull up. they'd minibus would pull up. they'd get minibus would pull up. they'd eeilinen— minibus would pull up. they'd get-them-they'd- minibus would pull up. they'd get them they'd go to get in them and they'd go to week. — get in them and they'd go to week. .ss— get in them and they'd go to work. .so those- get in them and they'd go to work. so those jobs need work. and so those jobs need doing— work. and so those jobs need seine—inen- work. and so those jobs need| doing—then lee work. and so those jobs needi doing—then lee , doing in that sense. then lee, doing in that sense. then lee, sis—in- doing in that sense. then lee, sis—in nei- doing in that sense. then lee,i sis—in nsi ining do you think that i'm not trying to do you think that i'm not trying is siiisn— do you think that i'm not trying is siiisn yen— do you think that i'm not trying is siiisn yen nn— do you think that i'm not trying to stitch you up here, by the way,— to stitch you up here, by the nen is— to stitch you up here, by the nen is yen— to stitch you up here, by the way, do you think that some nniisn— way, do you think that some british people— way, do you think that some british people are too lazy to do british people are too lazy to sis-ions— british people are too lazy to is-isise — british people are too lazy to do-jobs ? yeah,- british people are too lazy to do-jobs ? yeah, it's. british people are too lazy to. do-jobs .7 yeah, it'slbit do those jobs? yeah, it's a bit of a area. there because of a grey area. there because you do find that, you know, the british people will that british people will say that there's not the out there. there's not the jobs out there. but on my but i can only comment on my experience i see the experience and i only see the eastern europeans as the big workforce in the factories and the farms and, you know, when we

drive through boston in early hours of the morning, like you say, queuing up to get into the minibus . so, you know, they're minibus. so, you know, they're showing that positive get up and 90, showing that positive get up and go, okay, now , we've spoken go, okay, now, we've spoken about some of the positives there. a couple of the negatives neve— there. a couple of the negatives neve eineeiy— there. a couple of the negatives have already been— “iii; a couple of the negatives have already been identified signg a couple of the negatives have already been identified as eineeiy— have already been identified as we've already seen actually signi— we've already seen actually signs-sien— we've already seen actually. right - start - show right at the start of the show on s— right at the start of the show on s p-m- — right at the start of the show on s p-m- ener— right at the start of the show on 3 pm. after we finished neeen— on 3 pm. after we finished neeen ss— on 3 pm. after we finished today. go youtube, rewind today. go on youtube, rewind us eni— today. go on youtube, rewind us enn-sen— today. go on youtube, rewind us enn-sen see— today. go on youtube, rewind us and-can see exactly- today. go on youtube, rewind us and can see exactly what and you can see exactly what nennenei.— and you can see exactly what happened-police- and you can see exactly what. happened.-police-up happened. the police pulled up nenini— happened. the police pulled up behind—square- happened. the police pulled up behind—square ,- behind us here, that square, nnisn— behind us here, that square, which-whizz- behind us here, that square, which-whizz you- behind us here, that square, which whizz you around which i'll just whizz you around eni— which i'll just whizz you around enn-nee. — which i'll just whizz you around enn-nee. ss- which i'll just whizz you around and-here. so this- and show you here. so this sene— and show you here. so this sene nene— and show you here. so this square here, the- and show you here. so this square here, the locals kind of neu— square here, the locals kind of neii ,— square here, the locals kind of wen, i— square here, the locals kind of wen, i-ii— square here, the locals kind of well , i-it foreign- square here, the locals kind of well, i it foreign island well, i call it foreign island as well, i call it foreign island es ii— well, i call it foreign island es in nee— well, i call it foreign island as it were, for— well, i call it foreign island as it were, for the obvious reason that— as it were, for the obvious reason that it— as it were, for the obvious reason that it can be a reason that it can be quite a new— reason that it can be quite a few-hanging- reason that it can be quite a- few-hanging-there. few people hanging around there. the few people hanging around there. ins—snee.— few people hanging around there. the _there. there- few people hanging around there. the there. there can the police were there. there can be the police were there. there can ins-si— the police were there. there can be-of disorder— the police were there. there can be-of disorder and- the police were there. there can be of disorder and quite be a bit of disorder and quite a new— be a bit of disorder and quite a few isseis— be a bit of disorder and quite a few locals do— be a bit of disorder and quite a few locals do tell— be a bit of disorder and quite a few locals do tell me that iney-ne— few locals do tell me that iney-ne e— few locals do tell me that iney-ne e iii— few locals do tell me that they're a bit afraid to come out at they're a bit afraid to come out ei-esnesieiiy— they're a bit afraid to come out at-especially the - they're a bit afraid to come out at especially the elderly at night, especially the elderly nennieiisn— population. so that's kind of wneee— population. so that's kind of where-can be.- population. so that's kind of. where-can be.-i'll where the hub can be. here. i'll inne— where the hub can be. here. i'll inning nee— where the hub can be. here. i'll inning nee-in— where the hub can be. here. i'll bring lee-in here.- where the hub can be. here. i'll bring lee in here. now, in bring lee back in here. now, in your— bring lee back in here. now, in yen-siev— bring lee back in here. now, in vonn-iey-inen- bring lee back in here. now, in. your- day _then when your day to day work, then when vowe— your day to day work, then when you're renovating— your day to day work, then when you're renovating and you're renovating properties and vowe— you're renovating properties and you're—you- you're seeing properties, youi were—seine were just saying to me before ines— were just saying to me before snee-sen— were just saying to me before snee-sen see— were just saying to me before that-can seellot- were just saying to me before that can see lot of that you can see a lot of overcrowding _ that you can see a lot of overcrowding because that is a big overcrowding because that is a inn-nei— overcrowding because that is a big-net migration. big aspect of net migration being— big aspect of net migration being-is— big aspect of net migration being-is that- big aspect of net migration being is that it's being so high is that it's innesi— being so high is that it's innesi .— being so high is that it's impact. there's not being so high is that it's impact . there's not anywhere for impact. there's not anywhere for inen — impact. there's not anywhere for inen is— impact. there's not anywhere for

inen is ine— impact. there's not anywhere for them to live, basically. yeah eissiniein — them to live, basically. yeah. absolutely. _crisis absolutely. the housing crisis is issue and we were we is a big issue and we were we originally started renting out properties on a single tenancy agreement, but we found straight away that the tenants would be subletting the rooms, so we'd be earning sort of bare minimum money. and yet the tenants were charging per room couples and you'd have sort of ten, 12 people in one house. so we quickly got out of that and went into holiday lets you know. but we see it on a regular basis. you know, we're going into houses and there's families in one room. you know, they shouldn't be, but it is it's realistic for this area. basically, you'll get someone rent a house and then 3 or 4 families will move in. okay. so a big problem. okay. all right. ani— a big problem. okay. all right. and insi— a big problem. okay. all right. and insi in— a big problem. okay. all right. and just in terms— a big problem. okay. all right. and just in terms of— gig okay. all right. and just in terms of the way ines— and just in terms of the way inei ine— and just in terms of the way that the area's— and just in terms of the way that the area's changed, do you mine— that the area's changed, do you think realistically— that the area's changed, do you think realistically it's been for ine— think realistically it's been for the better— think realistically it's been for the better or for the worse 7 for the better or for the worse e ii— for the better or for the worse e ii i— for the better or for the worse e ii i nei— for the better or for the worse e ii i nen is— for the better or for the worse ? if i had to press— for the better or for the worse ? if i had to press you on it as a ? if i had to press you on it as e nesnii— ? if i had to press you on it as e nesnii, sn— ? if i had to press you on it as a result, or should— ? if i had to press you on it as a result, or should i. let me nennnese— a result, or should i. let me rephrase this. _ a result, or should i. let me rephrase this. do— a result, or should i. let me rephrase this. do you personally in your— rephrase this. do you personally in ysnn nie— rephrase this. do you personally in your life see— rephrase this. do you personally in your life see a— rephrase this. do you personally in your life see a day to day

ieneiii— in your life see a day to day benefit from _ in your life see a day to day benefit from massive net nigneiisne— benefit from massive net migration? do - benefit from massive net migration? do you think ? g“ migration? do you think? uh, it's migration? do you think? uh, ii-s e— migration? do you think? uh, is e isnnn— migration? do you think? uh, it's a tough one— migration? do you think? uh, it's a tough one to— migration? do you think? uh, it's a tough one to answer, really . maybe a bit of both . really. maybe a bit of both. okay. because i do see the overcrowded situation often quite frequently . but on the quite frequently. but on the same note, you know, i do realise that we do need that additional workforce as well. look, lee, thank you very much . look, lee, thank you very much. sine— look, lee, thank you very much. sine your— look, lee, thank you very much. give your business— look, lee, thank you very much. give your business one more snsni— give your business one more snsni sni— give your business one more shout out tonight. c shout out tonight. it's a show esens— shout out tonight. it's a show about accommodation and ronan renovation. good okay, renovation. good stuff. okay, nen—esne- renovation. good stuff. okay, nen—esne isl now what we are going to be doing— now what we are going to be seine-nene— now what we are going to be doing-hourll've- now what we are going to be doing hour i've got doing this hour is i've got a conservative— doing this hour is i've got a conservative mp,- doing this hour is i've got a conservative mp, seely on. conservative mp, bob seely on. ne-s— conservative mp, bob seely on. ne-s-e— conservative mp, bob seely on. ne-s-e iss— conservative mp, bob seely on. he's-a lot-answer-ii he's got a lot to answer for. i ininn— he's got a lot to answer for. i ininn in— he's got a lot to answer for. i ininn in e— he's got a lot to answer for. i think, in a lot— he's got a lot to answer for. i think, in a lot of— he's got a lot to answer for. i think, in a lot of your books as nen.— think, in a lot of your books as nen—is- think, in a lot of your books as nen—is ie- well. i'm also going to be ieikine— well. i'm also going to be talking shadow well. i'm also going to be- talking-shadow cabinet talking to labour shadow cabinet nemesi— talking to labour shadow cabinet member thangam— talking to labour shadow cabinet member thangam debbonaire. her party— member thangam debbonaire. her penis is— member thangam debbonaire. her party is stepping— member thangam debbonaire. her party is stepping forward, member thangam debbonaire. her party is stthe ing forward, member thangam debbonaire. her party is stthe toriesward,the whacking the tories over the neen.— whacking the tories over the neen—nnel whacking the tories over the- neei,—ine neny head, saying we're now the party ines— head, saying we're now the party inei sen— head, saying we're now the party that can-control— head, saying we're now the party that can-controllour- that can get control of our borders. — that can get control of our borders. _the i that can get control of our. borders—the legal borders. but this is the legal sinn— borders. but this is the legal sinii-ii-s— borders. but this is the legal stuff it's absolutely vital borders. but this is the legal stuffwe it's absolutely vital borders. but this is the legal stuffwe gets absolutely vital borders. but this is the legal stuffwe get the solutely vital borders. but this is the legal stuffwe get the picture! vital borders. but this is the legal stuffwe get the picture ontal borders. but this is the legal stuffwe get the picture on the that we get the picture on the iiieeei— that we get the picture on the iiiegei sine— that we get the picture on the illegal side of— that we get the picture on the illegal side of things the illegal side of things from the snennei— illegal side of things from the channel-with- illegal side of things from the channel with mark channel in dover with mark wnee— channel in dover with mark white,-home- channel in dover with mark white, home security white, our home and security eiiisn— white, our home and security esnse—ine- white, our home and securityl editor._the latest editor. mark, what's the latest wneee— editor. mark, what's the latest wneee-nen— editor. mark, what's the latest where-well all- editor. mark, what's the latest where well all this where you are? well all this nomine— where you are? well all this morning we— where you are? well all this morning we saw— where you are? well all this morning we saw more arrivals nene— morning we saw more arrivals nene ei— morning we saw more arrivals nene ei never. —

morning we saw more arrivals here at dover. the- morning we saw more arrivals here at dover. 2 , here at dover. the border force vessels defender , hurricane and vessels defender, hurricane and ranger came in first thing this morning with 150 people that they had picked up from small boats in the middle of the channel and that takes a figure actually to about 7500 for the yeah actually to about 7500 for the year. so far now, the government has actually been saved in a way by the really atrocious weather conditions that we've had predominantly throughout the first months of the year. it's been windy in particular here, and that's just made it pretty impassable in the channel for most of these inflatables to try to attempt the crossing. so you've had dribs and drabs, 151 you've had dribs and drabs,151 day, 100 another day when the weather conditions ins allow. but once we get into the summer months proper and flat calm conditions out in the channel, there are thousands of people on there are thousands of people on the other side , on the french the other side, on the french side of the channel in camps around calais and in dunkirk,

away , taking their opportunity away, taking their opportunity to come across here. and in conjunction , of course, with the conjunction, of course, with the net migration figures from the office for national statistics today we're more figures on the illegal migration problem. as the government outlines it as being and also of course on the asylum applications crisis that the home office in particular is facing now . the home office facing now. the home office figures in tandem with the ons figures in tandem with the ons figures , was revealed that in figures, was revealed that in the year to march of this year, there were 75,000 asylum applications. now patrick, that is the largest single year of asylum applications for the past 20 years. it's a 33% increase on the number of asylum applications last year. the number of asylum applications last year . and that applications last year. and that in turn is simply added to the

asylum backlog, which never gets any smaller and only continues to grow. it's now up . at 172,000 to grow. it's now up. at 172,000 asylum applications , still asylum applications, still waiting for that initial decision and that's a 57% increase on last year. so more detail as well on the breakdown of those on the boats last year that came across and indeed , in that came across and indeed, in the first three months of this year. the first three months of this year . now the first three months of this year. now last year, the first three months of this year . now last year, the year. now last year, the predominant nationalities were afghanistan citizens and also those from albania. these were the two biggest. now nations in terms of the representation on on these small boats . this year, on these small boats. this year, that's changed around and that actually it's still afghanistan even that is the most significant contributor to people crossing on small boats. but albania has all but

disappeared from the small boat crossings in the first three months of this year. crossings in the first three months of this year . just 28 months of this year. just 28 albanians crossed. that's 1% of albanians crossed. that's1% of the small boat crossings for those first three months. and they have instead been replaced by indians. some 700 indian nationals were on these boats in the first three months. so a change in the demographics to some extent coming across in the small boats and we are at a place where there are slightly fewer in number who have come across compare to this period last year. but as i say, that's weather related . and once we get weather related. and once we get flat calm conditions , we expect flat calm conditions, we expect the numbers coming across to grow. very significant indeed . grow. very significant indeed. absolutely mark white there, snenn— absolutely mark white there, inenk yen — absolutely mark white there, inenk yen verve— absolutely mark white there, thank you very, very- ' eiglyn mark white there, thank you very, very much. mark wnee— thank you very, very much. mark wine, sn— thank you very, very much. mark white, our home— thank you very, very much. mark white, our home and security eiiisn— white, our home and security eiiisn inn— white, our home and security editor from dover. just picking innsnen— editor from dover. just picking innsnen ine— editor from dover. just picking through the numbers there. inienesiine— through the numbers there. interesting shift, isn't it? some— interesting shift, isn't it? some good— interesting shift, isn't it?

some good news we reported a ssnnie— some good news we reported a ssnnie si— some good news we reported a ssnnie si eeys— some good news we reported a couple of days ago on this very snenn— couple of days ago on this very snsn, sienn— couple of days ago on this very show, didn't we,— couple of days ago on this very show, didn't we, that the aiienien— show, didn't we, that the albanian government had agreed show, didn't we, that the alitakein government had agreed show, didn't we, that the alitakein gova'nment had agreed show, didn't we, that the alitakein gova couple had agreed show, didn't we, that the alitakein gova couple ofj agreed show, didn't we, that the alitakein gova couple of hundred to take back a couple of hundred of to take back a couple of hundred si-aiienien— to take back a couple of hundred of albanian criminals. so of known albanian criminals. so snee-s— of known albanian criminals. so inei-s e— of known albanian criminals. so inei-s e sien— of known albanian criminals. so inei-s e sien in— of known albanian criminals. so that's a step in the— of known albanian criminals. so that's a step in the right iiesiisn— that's a step in the right direction. look, i've got a lot ssnine— direction. look, i've got a lot more coming-way- direction. look, i've got a lot more coming way very more coming your way very snsnin — more coming your way very shortly. _crossed. i more coming your way very shortly. crossed. i'm shortly. fingers crossed. i'm going— shortly. fingers crossed. i'm going is— shortly. fingers crossed. i'm going is ie— shortly. fingers crossed. i'm going to be talking to conservative- going to be talking to- conservative _seely. going to be talking to conservative-seely. lot going to be talking to co people ve-seely. lot going to be talking to co people in _seely. lot going to be talking to co people in this-seely. lot going to be talking to co people in this-fvoted. lot of people in this area voted. isn— of people in this area voted. in ei— of people in this area voted. tory ei ine— of people in this area voted. tory at the last— of people in this area voted. tory at the last general eiesiisn. — tory at the last general election. a— tory at the last general election. a lot- tory at the last general election. a lot of people are seying— election. a lot of people are seying they— election. a lot of people are saying they can't bring themselves— saying they can't bring themselves to vote for now. themselves to vote for it now. ani— themselves to vote for it now. and i— themselves to vote for it now. and i snsnesi— themselves to vote for it now. and i suspect picture is and i suspect this picture is ssneining— and i suspect this picture is. something—seeing something that you're seeing neyie— something that you're seeing maybelvour_ something that you're seeing maybe your wherever you maybe in your area, wherever you are maybe in your area, wherever you ene-nnisn— maybe in your area, wherever you are united kingdom. why? are in the united kingdom. why? wein— are in the united kingdom. why? well, i— are in the united kingdom. why? well, i inink— are in the united kingdom. why? well, i think for— are in the united kingdom. why? well, i think for quite a straightforward answer , are your straightforward answer, are your nniiis— straightforward answer, are your public services— straightforward answer, are your public services better ? is your public services better? is your issei— public services better? is your local housing— public services better? is your local housing better ? is your local housing better? is your area better?— local housing better? is your area better? and— local housing better? is your area better? and crucially, in ign— area better? and crucially, in light si— area better? and crucially, in iigni si ine— area better? and crucially, in light of the record net nigneiisn— light of the record net migration numbers today, do you feel migration numbers today, do you ieei iiei— migration numbers today, do you ieei iiei ts— migration numbers today, do you feel lied to about— migration numbers today, do you feel lied to about the desire to get feel lied to about the desire to gei nigneiisn— feel lied to about the desire to get migration down to the nnnineis— get migration down to the hundreds of— get migration down to the hundreds of thousands, even just the hundreds of thousands, even just nine tens— hundreds of thousands, even just nine iens si— hundreds of thousands, even just the tens of thousands? patrick snnsiys— the tens of thousands? patrick snnsiys nene— the tens of thousands? patrick christys here on— the tens of thousands? patrick christys here on gb news in neeen— christys here on gb news in boston in— christys here on gb news in boston in lincolnshire, for our nei— boston in lincolnshire, for our nei nignetisn— boston in lincolnshire, for our net migration special . the top

net migration special. the top sisnies— net migration special. the top stories sn— net migration special. the top stories on gb— net migration special. the top stories on gb news downing street— stories on gb news downing street nes— stories on gb news downing street has refused calls for isisni— street has refused calls for rishi sunak— street has refused calls for rishi sunak to— street has refused calls for rishi sunak to apologise , rishi sunak to apologise, despite— rishi sunak to apologise, despite failing to reduce net nigneisn— despite failing to reduce net migration, which has now risen to migration, which has now risen is essen— migration, which has now risen to record levels— migration, which has now risen to record levels . _ migration, which has now risen to record levels . i 2 to record levels. data released today shows numbers rose to 660,000 last year, even after repeated government pledges to bnng repeated government pledges to bring overall numbers down. the immigration minister, robert jenrick, says the government is trying to tackle the issue . trying to tackle the issue. meanwhile, rishi sunak welcomes the reduction in the energy price cap, saying it's a major milestone towards his goal of halving inflation. ofgem has announced the typical annual household energy bill will fall to £2,074 a year from july . to £2,074 a year from july. that's a drop of £426, ofgem says the reduction reflects recent falls in wholesale energy pnces. recent falls in wholesale energy prices . a german prosecutor has prices. a german prosecutor has played down hopes of an imminent breakthrough in the search for

missing madeleine mccann . that's missing madeleine mccann. that's as police who've been investigating the shoreline of a reservoir in portugal begin wrapping up a source close to the investigation says there's nothing to report . after three nothing to report. after three days of searches , witnesses say days of searches, witnesses say british police who were assisting their portuguese and german counterparts had left by this afternoon . and nine people this afternoon. and nine people have been arrested over the disorder in cardiff that followed the deaths of two teenagers on monday. 618 year old kyrees sullivan and 15 year old kyrees sullivan and 15 year old harvey evans were killed in the ely area whilst they were riding an e—bike. the ely area whilst they were riding an e—bike . the police riding an e—bike. the police watchdogs investigating the road crash after cctv footage emerged showing a police van following the teens before their deaths. cars were set alight and windows smashed in the violence. 15 police officers were injured . police officers were injured. south wales police have confirmed all nine people were arrested on suspicion of rioting on tv , online dab+ radio and the on tv, online dab+ radio and the tune in app. this is gb news.

back now to . back now to. patrick welcome along to a back now to. patrick- . welcome along to a record back now to. patrick— . welcome along to a record day. back now to. patrick— . weimigrationig to a record day. back now to. patrick— . weimigration figuresrecord day. back now to. patrick— . weimigration figures oford day. the net migration figures of eoeoonz— the net migration figures of 606,001.2 million people arrived in n...— 606,001.2 million people arrived in nine uk— 606,001.2 million people arrived in nine ink in— 606,001.2 million people arrived in the uk in the— 606,001.2 million people arrived in the uk in the last year. that is isngniy— in the uk in the last year. that is isngniy ine— in the uk in the last year. that is roughly the size— in the uk in the last year. that is roughly the size of glasgow sin— is roughly the size of glasgow sin .— is roughly the size of glasgow sing . nonin— is roughly the size of glasgow city . motty. now— is roughly the size of glasgow city . motty. now when we look at city. motty. now when we look at the breakdown— city. motty. now when we look at the breakdown for— city. motty. now when we look at the breakdown for all of this as nen.— the breakdown for all of this as well, wneee— the breakdown for all of this as well, where they're coming from, neu— well, where they're coming from, neii tnene-s— well, where they're coming from, well there's been— well, where they're coming from, well there's been a— well, where they're coming from, well there's been a reduction in people— well there's been a reduction in people nen— well there's been a reduction in people from n...— well there's been a reduction in people from the eu. one would eenesi— people from the eu. one would expect inei— people from the eu. one would expect that post— people from the eu. one would expect that post brexit, a expect that post brexit, but a nessive-in— expect that post brexit, but a massive-in-eu- expect that post brexit, but a massive in eu citizens massive hike in non eu citizens eni— massive hike in non eu citizens enn inei— massive hike in non eu citizens and that leads— massive hike in non eu citizens and that leads doesn't and that leads us on, doesn't it,-conversation- and that leads us on, doesn't it, conversation about what it, to a conversation about what eses— it, to a conversation about what does tnis— it, to a conversation about what does this mean— it, to a conversation about what does this mean for— it, to a conversation about what does this mean for our education sysiene— does this mean for our education sysienelii— does this mean for our education system?.it correct— does this mean for our education system? it correct to say system? is it correct to say inei— system? is it correct to say inn-nen- system? is it correct to say that now drastically that we are now drastically iniieiing— that we are now drastically inflating immigration numbers in sneer— inflating immigration numbers in sneer-insi— inflating immigration numbers in snienlinsi prop— inflating immigration numbers in snienlinsi prop nn— inflating immigration numbers in order just prop up a failing order to just prop up a failing iinensieiiy— order to just prop up a failing financially education system? is it financially education system? is ii nei— financially education system? is ii iein ts— financially education system? is ii iein is seg— financially education system? is it fair to say that— financially education system? is it fair to say that we can now expen— it fair to say that we can now eenesi rapid— it fair to say that we can now expect rapid demographic change in gig..— expect rapid demographic change in ninein e— expect rapid demographic change in britain ? and— expect rapid demographic change in britain ? and is—

expect rapid demographic change in britain ? and is that in britain? and is that ssneining— in britain? and is that something that people signed up for eni— something that people signed up in end pennie— something that people signed up for and people wanted people nene— for and people wanted people nene in— for and people wanted people here in boston,— for and people wanted people here in boston, in lincolnshire tnet— here in boston, in lincolnshire tnet estee— here in boston, in lincolnshire that voted for— here in boston, in lincolnshire that voted for brexit in record ines— that voted for brexit in record numbers certainly don't. that's n...— numbers certainly don't. that's nnei iney-ve— numbers certainly don't. that's what they've been— numbers certainly don't. that's what they've been going and teiiing— what they've been going and telling—point- what they've been going and. telling—point really telling lne. but the point really is telling me. but the point really is wneee— telling me. but the point really is nnene is— telling me. but the point really is where do-now?- telling me. but the point really is where do now? but is where do we go now? but snnsieiiy— is where do we go now? but snnsieiiy .— is where do we go now? but crucially , how— is where do we go now? but crucially , how on earth did we crucially, how on earth did we get neee— crucially, how on earth did we get here? because it's been successive promise after premise.— successive promise after promise, promise of promise, after promise of geiiing— promise, after promise of getting migration down into tnsse— getting migration down into nose-si— getting migration down into those of thousands to take those tens of thousands to take iesk— those tens of thousands to take iesk ssnnsi— those tens of thousands to take back control of— those tens of thousands to take back control of our— those tens of thousands to take back control of our borders. setnenne — back control of our borders. catherine forster our political nensnen— catherine forster our political regenen nes— catherine forster our political reporter, has this— catherine forster our political reporter, has this package about new— reporter, has this package about new sn— reporter, has this package about new on eenn— reporter, has this package about how on earth we've ended up nene. — how on earth we've ended up nene. wen— how on earth we've ended up here. net migration- how on earth we've ended up here. \ d how on earth we've ended up here. hi: i; aegi“ here. net migration needs to come down radically from hundreds of thousands a year to just tens of thousands. we do want to bring net migration down to sustainable levels. we believe that is the- we believe that is the tens of insnsenis. — believe that is the tens of thousands. _ believe that is the tens of thousands. the- believe that is the tens of thousands. believe that is the tens of- thousands. the answer here is to control immigration. i think the ines— control immigration. i think the numbers are too— control immigration. i think the numbers are too high- , gngi igi“ i think the numbers are too high and i'm ssnninei— numbers are too high and i'm committed to— numbers are too high and i'm committed to bringing them down. vie-ve— committed to bringing them down. iie-ve nei— committed to bringing them down. iie-ve nen is— committed to bringing them down. we've had 13 years— committed to bringing them down. we've had 13 years of conservative - we've had 13 years of conservative prime ministers pledging— conservative prime ministers pledging is— conservative prime ministers pledging is sn— conservative prime ministers pledging to cut our net nigneiisn— pledging to cut our net migration, yet the numbers have gone— migration, yet the numbers have gene nn— migration, yet the numbers have gene ne eni— migration, yet the numbers have gene ne ene nn— migration, yet the numbers have gene ne ene nn ,— migration, yet the numbers have gone up and up, now reaching a new record high. _ gone up and up, now reaching a new record high. 2 2 gige

new record high. how did we get here until the early 80s, britain was a net exporter of people , but under new labour , people, but under new labour, net migration increased fivefold and driven by free movement within the european union, which expanded eastwards . in 2004, expanded eastwards. in 2004, brexit was won on a promise to take back control , brexit was won on a promise to take back control, including of our borders . britain would our borders. britain would decide who came and numbers would fall. now the government does have control and an australian point system, but the numbers have surged. we've offered sanctuary to refugees from ukraine, afghanistan and to hongkongers. from ukraine, afghanistan and to hongkongers . then the students hongkongers. then the students and the dependents , they bring and the dependents, they bring dependent numbers are up eightfold since 2019 and this week the government announced a crackdown and conservative party deputy chairman matt vickers highlights changes in the way net migration is recorded . huge net migration is recorded. huge numbers were being— i; fifi“ huge numbers were being missed i; figi“ huge numbers were being missed in i; "fifi“ huge numbers were being missed in the nesi— numbers were being missed in the past eni— numbers were being missed in the past and actually— numbers were being missed in the past and actually if— numbers were being missed in the past and actually if you speak to past and actually if you speak ie n...— past and actually if you speak is ine eeeeie— past and actually if you speak to the people responsible for resending,— to the people responsible for recording, they'll tell you that men— recording, they'll tell you that

theiela— recording, they'll tell you that there a difference in there is a huge difference in ine— there is a huge difference in nne-inn— there is a huge difference in the-that we're- there is a huge difference in the that we're recording and the way that we're recording and the way that we're recording and nine innesi— the way that we're recording and nine ingest is— the way that we're recording and the impact is that— the way that we're recording and the impact is that those numbers the way that we're recording and the notiact is that those numbers the way that we're recording and the notiact is inflated. numbers the way that we're recording and the notiact is inflated. "cg nif's are not being inflated. they're esineiiy— are not being inflated. they're esineiiy-esing— are not being inflated. they're actually being made actually just being made accurate they accurate where previously they were accurate. were in no way accurate. there's also a battle rage saving— there's also a battle rage seying et— there's also a battle rage seying ei ine— there's also a battle rage saying at the of government, saying at the top of government, the saying at the top of government, ine nene— saying at the top of government, the home office— saying at the top of government, the home office wants to get ines— the home office wants to get numbers down. _ the home office wants to get numbers down. here's the beleaguered— numbers down. here's the beleaguered home secretary just last beleaguered home secretary just iesi neen. — beleaguered home secretary just last week. there— beleaguered home secretary just last week. there is— beleaguered home secretary just last week. there is no good why— last week. there is no good reason why we _ last week. there is no good reason why we can't train up enengn— reason why we can't train up enengn inse— reason why we can't train up enough truck drivers, butchers , enough truck drivers, butchers, inni— enough truck drivers, butchers, tnnit eistens— enough truck drivers, butchers, fruit pickers, builders or neiiens. — fruit pickers, builders or welders. brexit- fruit pickers, builders or welders. fitnifx e ii;“f gt; fruit pickers, builders or- welders. brexit enables us to build a high skilled , high wage build a high skilled, high wage economy that is less dependent on low skilled foreign labour. meanwhile, the treasury and neeennent.— meanwhile, the treasury and department, such as education eni— department, such as education ene neeitn— department, such as education and health, want— department, such as education and health, want immigrants to plug— and health, want immigrants to plug gaps— and health, want immigrants to plug gaps and_ and health, want immigrants to plug gaps and to_ and health, want immigrants to plug gaps and to grow our singgisn— plug gaps and to grow our sluggish economy. yet we've a neseni— sluggish economy. yet we've a neseni .— sluggish economy. yet we've a neseni . ss— sluggish economy. yet we've a record . 5.3 million— sluggish economy. yet we've a record . 5.3 million adults on record. 5.3 million adults on ent— record. 5.3 million adults on ent et— record. 5.3 million adults on ent et neit— record. 5.3 million adults on out of work benefits and looking at out of work benefits and looking et tne— out of work benefits and looking at the welfare _ out of work benefits and looking at the welfare system and ensnning— at the welfare system and ensuring that— at the welfare system and ensuring that the incentives are tnene— ensuring that the incentives are tnene ten— ensuring that the incentives are there for some— ensuring that the incentives are there for some of— ensuring that the incentives are there for some of our own people to there for some of our own people te tene— there for some of our own people te tete en— there for some of our own people to take on some— there for some of our own people to take on some of— there for some of our own people to take on some of the jobs that snnnentiy— to take on some of the jobs that we're currently relying on cheap teneign— we're currently relying on cheap teneign-te— we're currently relying on cheap teneign-te-ine- foreign labour to do. the gevennnent—

foreign labour to do. the government-a- foreign labour to do. the government a lot of foreign labour to do. the- government-a lot of noise government makes a lot of noise etent— government makes a lot of noise about-migration- government makes a lot of noise about migration and about illegal migration and stepping— about illegal migration and stepping tne— about illegal migration and stopping the boats. but with a nensing— stopping the boats. but with a nensing-eni— stopping the boats. but with a housing and public housing crisis and public senises— housing crisis and public services—i housing crisis and public- services_, pollster services under strain, pollster ienes— services under strain, pollster ienes iennsen— services under strain, pollster james johnson says they need to get iegei— james johnson says they need to get legal migration down. “ get legal migration down. in a neent— get legal migration down. in a nscsnt neit— get legal migration down. in a recent poll for— get legal migration down. in a recent poll for the— get legal migration down. in a recent poll for the think tank centre for policy studies , 59% centre for policy studies, 59% said that immigration in this country is too high. and you go anywhere in the country and do a focus groups, whether it's in those same for conservative seats in the south or whether it's in those seats in the red wall, immigration is always on top of mind for the conservatives with the general eiectien— conservatives with the general election looming _ conservatives with the general election looming next- with the general election looming next year getting— election looming next year getting net— election looming next year getting net migration down will need— getting net migration down will need te— getting net migration down will need te te— getting net migration down will need te is e— getting net migration down will need to be a key— getting net migration down will need to be a key focus. catherine _ need to be a key focus. catherine force . gb news. we catherine force. gb news. we visit.— catherine force. gb news. we visit. isn-t— catherine force. gb news. we visit. isnt it— catherine force. gb news. we well, isn't it absolutely- well, isn't it absolutely fascinating that the labour party now is trying to portray itself as the party of sensible migration policies and who can blame them in light of the figures that have dropped today? but one thing that i really want to know and find out from you, and hope that you all email in

and i hope that you all email in is gb views news .com is is gb views at gb news .com is whether not if you voted for whether or not if you voted for brexit, you would do it again. whether or not you blame the conservative for the conservative party for the current situation that this country in. which party would country is in. which party would you want for at the next you want to vote for at the next general and are general election? and if you are seeing similarities seeing any kind of similarities from area that i've been from the area that i've been in all here boston in all day here in boston in lincolnshire own town , lincolnshire and your own town, the reason why we wanted to get out and meet real out and about and meet real people business owner i'm people like a business owner i'm going to be talking to in just a second. actually called paul is because this really is where migration actually has arguably more of an impact on day to day life. it's easy, i think, isn't it, when you're in the big cities your london's or cities like your london's or your birmingham's or your manchester's for those areas to absorb of absorb a large numbers of migration. but in light of that 606,000 net today and rapid population growth and rapid demographic change areas like the one i'm in at the moment in boston, are the ones that tend to bear the brunt and i'm just going call this particular going to call this particular chap now. paul chap over right now. it's paul who's me. just who's joining me. he's just pulled is a gb news pulled up now, paul is a gb news viewer. he saw that we were out

and about in the area the and about in the area at the moment thought he'd come moment and he thought he'd come and i'm very well. moment and he thought he'd come and are i'm very well. moment and he thought he'd come and are you? i'm very well. moment and he thought he'd come and are you? okay.ery well. moment and he thought he'd come and are you? okay. pretty ll. moment and he thought he'd come and are you? okay. pretty good. how are you? okay. pretty good. yeah. well, look, thank you very much and talking much for coming and talking to me so we are in the me today. so we are in the centre of boston now. it's me today. so we are in the cekind of boston now. it's me today. so we are in the cekind of of boston now. it's me today. so we are in the cekind of quaint)ston now. it's me today. so we are in the cekind of quaint)ston nctown,. a kind of quaint market town, isn't it, really? a of isn't it, really? now, a lot of people saying today, people will be saying today, paul people will be saying today, paul, these net migration figures, we need it for fantastic. we need it for britain, feels britain, every area feels enriched result . what would enriched as a result. what would you say? well, no, it's the iegei— you say? well, no, it's the legal migration— , well, no, it's the legal migration coming in is stit— legal migration coming in is stiii tee— legal migration coming in is still too far— legal migration coming in is still too far too— legal migration coming in is still too far too high here. teens— still too far too high here. vsens ege— still too far too high here. years ago, when— still too far too high here. years ago, when labour opened up and we had a lot of portuguese come in, there was riots here and everything because i mean, they accept what was they couldn't accept what was going i mean, obviously going on. i mean, obviously food and food area. and things is a food area. there be and there has to be picked and eventning— there has to be picked and eventning, yen— there has to be picked and everything, you know. it's everything, you know. but it's the everything, you know. but it's tne-siie— everything, you know. but it's tne-siie-ne- everything, you know. but it's the-side-we don'tj the illegal side that we don't tite— the illegal side that we don't iite. tnene-s— the illegal side that we don't like. there's plenty people like. there's plenty of people niiiing— like. there's plenty of people niiiiene— like. there's plenty of people milliare not— like. there's plenty of people milliare not all— like. there's plenty of people milliare not all whatever, you that are not all whatever, you tnen— that are not all whatever, you knew. sen— that are not all whatever, you know, sort-thing.- that are not all whatever, you know, sort thing. so but it's know, sort of thing. so but it's int— know, sort of thing. so but it's tnt tne— know, sort of thing. so but it's tnt tne iegei— know, sort of thing. so but it's but the legal side. yeah i understand— but the legal side. yeah i understand everybody's but the legal side. yeah i underiare d everybody's but the legal side. yeah i underiare that everybody's but the legal side. yeah i underiare that everyyou y's views are that are very you tnen— views are that are very you knew, eeeeie— views are that are very you know, people don't to what know, people don't know to what say know, people don't know to what see-nee. — know, people don't know to what see-nee. lneen- know, people don't know to what say here. mean you've say about it here. i mean you've got say about it here. i mean you've get—teet- say about it here. i mean you've get—teen nenel got more mouths to feed here enyney— got more mouths to feed here enyney sent— got more mouths to feed here enyney sen et— got more mouths to feed here anyway sort of thing. so you've got anyway sort of thing. so you've get te— anyway sort of thing. so you've get te neve— anyway sort of thing. so you've got to have more— anyway sort of thing. so you've got to have more people doing it .-tngiisn— got to have more people doing it .-english aren't-

got to have more people doing it . english aren't lazy . and the english aren't lazy eeenie— . and the english aren't lazy eeeeie ,— . and the english aren't lazy eeeeie , yen— . and the english aren't lazy people , you despite what people, you know, despite what eeeeie— people, you know, despite what scents—ent- people, you know, despite what eeenie—ent ,- people, you know, despite what people—out , we'rei people, you know, despite what peo hardest out , we're people, you know, despite what peo hardest working out , we're people, you know, despite what peo hardest working people. 're people, you know, despite what peo hardest working people. we the hardest working people. we went— the hardest working people. we went-liberated— the hardest working people. we went liberated europe as went and liberated europe as neit— went and liberated europe as neiilinent— went and liberated europe as wellithank-lot- went and liberated europe as well thank lot for went and liberated europe as. wellithank-lot for not well. thank you you lot for not nenentening— well. thank you you lot for not remembering that, you know, sort of remembering that, you know, sort et-ven— remembering that, you know, sort et-ven tnint— remembering that, you know, sort of-you think i've- remembering that, you know, sort of you think i've made it of thing. you think i've made it a of thing. you think i've made it e-ten— of thing. you think i've made it e-ten ten— of thing. you think i've made it e-ten ten ns- of thing. you think i've made it a-for for us, the- a bit easier for for us, the cssig— a bit easier for for us, the crossing, help— a bit easier for for us, the crossing, help us a little bit. ven— crossing, help us a little bit. ten—tning- crossing, help us a little bit. ten—tning. sel crossing, help us a little bit. you—thing. so but you know, sort of thing. so but yeah— you know, sort of thing. so but yeahs-the— you know, sort of thing. so but yeah, the migration, yeah, with the migration, the iegei— yeah, with the migration, the iegei-yen— yeah, with the migration, the legal-you know- yeah, with the migration, the legal-you know ,- yeah, with the migration, the legal you know , labour legal side, you know, labour enengnt— legal side, you know, labour enengnt it— legal side, you know, labour brought it.but_ legal side, you know, labour brought it but i'm not. jiifi brought it in but i'm not. do you— brought it in but i'm not. do yen test— brought it in but i'm not. do yen tssi ist— brought it in but i'm not. do you feel let down. - brought it in but i'm not. do you feel let down. this- brought it in but i'm not. do you feel let down. this is the thing. i mean did you back brexit this area the highest proportion brexit voters proportion of brexit voters anywhere in country so you anywhere in the country so you did you feel let down? yes, did do you feel let down? yes, definitely . yeah. yeah.- did do you feel let down? yes, definitely . yeah. yeah. it- definitely. yeah. yeah. it esnt— definitely. yeah. yeah. it wasn't what— definitely. yeah. yeah. it wasn't what we expected. you tnen— wasn't what we expected. you knew. we — wasn't what we expected. you know, we thought, okay, be a tnensitien— know, we thought, okay, be a transition period— know, we thought, okay, be a transition period coming out for a transition period coming out for e year— transition period coming out for eyeen en— transition period coming out for e yeen en tne. — transition period coming out for a year or two. fine. _ transition period coming out for a year or two. fine. it's got worse round here- a year or two. fine. it's got worse round here is unbelievable . inis— worse round here is unbelievable . inis is— worse round here is unbelievable . inis is net— worse round here is unbelievable .inis is net e— worse round here is unbelievable . this is not a true— worse round here is unbelievable . this is not a true picture testes.— . this is not a true picture teien i— . this is not a true picture today. i don't— . this is not a true picture today. i don't know what's neeeenei— today. i don't know what's happened here— today. i don't know what's happened here today, but it's not happened here today, but it's net-nictnne— happened here today, but it's not-picture thing- happened here today, but it's not picture thing that is not a true picture thing that is tescineting— not a true picture thing that is fascinating and— not a true picture thing that is fascinating and actually, it's nenn—nenil fascinating and actually, it's. worth—paul,.that worth mentioning, paul, is that snen— worth mentioning, paul, is that nnen—nitn- worth mentioning, paul, is that when _with the. when we were here with the cameras,-been- when we were here with the cameras, been here all cameras, we've been here all days— cameras, we've been here all ieylnenientni- cameras, we've been here all day, wonderful bev turner cameras, we've been here all day, here wonderful bev turner cameras, we've been here all day, here before ful bev turner cameras, we've been here all day, here before when v turner cameras, we've been here all day, here before when people r was here before when people ciectei—enl was here before when people. clocked _on our clocked that. we were on our cameras around the area. there did clear somewhat . that did clear up somewhat. that apparently normally full of apparently is normally full of people hanging around and the

police which police arrived as well, which was considering that police arrived as well, which wlot considering that police arrived as well, which wlot of considering that police arrived as well, which wlot of time)nsidering that police arrived as well, which wlot of time the jering that police arrived as well, which wlot of time the police that a lot of the time the police aren't normally here. so it's a hard you aren't normally here. so it's a nent—yen knowsl aren't normally here. so it's a. hard _you know, but hard for job them, you know, but i hard for job them, you know, but i-its— hard for job them, you know, but i-its net— hard for job them, you know, but i-its net e— hard for job them, you know, but i-it's not a true- i mean, it's not a true netiectien— i mean, it's not a true reflection around here. mean, reflection around here. i mean, tent—i- reflection around here. i mean, tent—i gel reflection around here. i mean, tent—i ge te bank over there. would i go to tne— bank over there. would i go to tne e— bank over there. would i go to tne e ten— bank over there. would i go to the a few months— bank over there. would i go to the a few months ago as a lady in tnene— the a few months ago as a lady in tnene ven— the a few months ago as a lady in there very distressed. and i sein— in there very distressed. and i seii. nnets— in there very distressed. and i said, what's the _ in there very distressed. and i said, what's the matter? all tnese— said, what's the matter? all tnese-neve- said, what's the matter? all these have bumped into these people have bumped into her these people have bumped into nen—nnetl her outside. i won't say what netieneiity— her outside. i won't say what. nationality—were, her outside. i won't say what. natithere's_were, her outside. i won't say what. natithere's all—were, her outside. i won't say what natithere's all shell were, her outside. i won't say what natithere's all shell suits were, her outside. i won't say what natithere's all shell suits and a, but there's all shell suits and nneteven. — but there's all shell suits and whatever. _very l whatever. and she was very concerned. and _ whatever. and she was very concerned. and she was concerned. and then she was nnset— concerned. and then she was nnset-te- concerned. and then she was neset-te neit- concerned. and then she was. upset-to walk around concerned. and then she was. upaet-to walk around concerned. and then she was upa lift to walk around concerned. and then she was upa lift over to walk around concerned. and then she was upa lift over here. walk around concerned. and then she was upa lift over here. it's.k around concerned. and then she was upa lift over here. it's little und to a lift over here. it's little tnings— to a lift over here. it's little tnings tite— to a lift over here. it's little things like that,— to a lift over here. it's little things like that, you know, talk to things like that, you know, talk te ne— things like that, you know, talk te ne etent— things like that, you know, talk to me about this,— things like that, you know, talk to me about this, because this to lne about this, because this is to me about this, because this is enetnen— to me about this, because this is another-that- to me about this, because this is another-that is- to me about this, because this is another that is and is another thing that is and i snseect— is another thing that is and ii suspect—potentially suspect potentially potentially an suspect potentially potentially en—nign- an issue on a lot of high stneets— an issue on a lot of high streets _the - an issue on a lot of high. streets-the country. an issue on a lot of high- streets-the country. and streets around the country. and get in— streets around the country. and get in tench.— streets around the country. and get in touch. let— streets around the country. and get in touch. let us— streets around the country. and get in touch. let us know if this where you are this is a picture where you are or not. gb views at gb news .com. but lot of locals here .com. but a lot of locals here are to me when are saying to me that when night—time falls here and dusk begins, tend to begins, people don't tend to feel the streets as begins, people don't tend to fe result the streets as begins, people don't tend to fe result of the streets as begins, people don't tend to fe result of a, the streets as begins, people don't tend to fe result of a, well, ie streets as begins, people don't tend to fe result of a, well, net reets as a result of a, well, net migration. would you migration. i suppose. would you agree with that? definitely. a lot of customers, mean, our lot of my customers, i mean, our nenein— lot of my customers, i mean, our nenein-necnines- lot of my customers, i mean, our repair machines locally repair washing machines locally sent— repair washing machines locally sent-se— repair washing machines locally sen-se nee- repair washing machines locally sort-so we're-inl sort of thing. so we're going in customers _they- sort of thing. so we're going ini customers _they-not customers houses, they will not come into town various ages ectneiin— come into town various ages ectneiiy. they— come into town various ages actually. they don't have to be eigen— actually. they don't have to be eieen eeeeie— actually. they don't have to be older people younger people. actually. they don't have to be olderwillple younger people. actually. they don't have to be olderwillple youinto people. actually. they don't have to be

olderwillple youinto town. e. they will not come into town. they— they will not come into town. iney inst— they will not come into town. iney inst tie — they will not come into town. they just do not— they will not come into town. they just do not like the place. cnenity—in-ini charity shops shut in empty in snens— charity shops shut in empty in shops everywhere— charity shops shut in empty in shops everywhere , shut in friend shops everywhere, shut in friend of shops everywhere, shut in friend et ine— shops everywhere, shut in friend et seeps— shops everywhere, shut in friend et seeps ,— shops everywhere, shut in friend of mine, coops , motors. he has of mine, coops, motors. he has a genege— of mine, coops, motors. he has a genege sienn— of mine, coops, motors. he has a garage down broadfield lane next teen— garage down broadfield lane next teen te— garage down broadfield lane next teen te nin— garage down broadfield lane next door to him there— garage down broadfield lane next door to him there was distilling vette— door to him there was distilling vette. it— door to him there was distilling vodka. it blew— door to him there was distilling vodka. it blew up— door to him there was distilling vodka. it blew up and now he's neeen— vodka. it blew up and now he's nevei sienn— vodka. it blew up and now he's moved down to— vodka. it blew up and now he's moved down to marsh sort of moved down to marsh lane sort of tning— moved down to marsh lane sort of tning-iiin-t— moved down to marsh lane sort of tning. _ciiin-t get- moved down to marsh lane sort of thing. didn't get killed? thing. how he didn't get killed? i thing. how he didn't get killed? i-tnen. — thing. how he didn't get killed? i-tnen. wneee- thing. how he didn't get killed? i know. know, there's i do not know. you know, there's a i do not know. you know, there's e-nniennenii— i do not know. you know, there's a-underworld stuff- i do not know. you know, there's a underworld stuff going a lot of underworld stuff going on around here.— a lot of underworld stuff going on around here. the streets eenni— on around here. the streets around—you're. on around here. the streets. around—you're only around. you're not. you're only seeing— around. you're not. you're only seeing-of— around. you're not. you're only seeing-of n— around. you're not. you're only seeing-of it here- around. you're not. you're only seeing-of it here in- around. you're not. you're only seeing of it here in the seeing a part of it here in the marketplace. — seeing a part of it here in the marketplace. there's lots of roads— marketplace. there's lots of roads - streets. - marketplace. there's lots of roads streets. have lots roads and streets. we have lots of-tot— roads and streets. we have lots of-tot of— roads and streets. we have lots of-lot of more- roads and streets. we have lots of-lot of more work. roads and streets. we have lots of lot of more work in of shops, a lot of more work in places. — of shops, a lot of more work in places. -a— of shops, a lot of more work in places. -a-up- places. there's a park up the road—you- places. there's a park up the road—you know,- road there, but, you know, and there-s— road there, but, you know, and there's—called. there's a street what's called the— there's a street what's called the west— there's a street what's called the west street— there's a street what's called the west street down there as wen,— the west street down there as wehh whhh — the west street down there as well, which is— the west street down there as well, which is full of there's probably— well, which is full of there's probably two— well, which is full of there's probably two english shops down there,— probably two english shops down them—hi there, you know, if you want a he— there, you know, if you want a he aha— there, you know, if you want a fire and food,— there, you know, if you want a fire and food, lovely. you fire and food, it's lovely. you know,— fire and food, it's lovely. you know, huh— fire and food, it's lovely. you know, huh h— fire and food, it's lovely. you know, but i mean, we enjoy hheghhhh— know, but i mean, we enjoy integration, but— know, but i mean, we enjoy integration, but this is just sort— integration, but this is just soh oh— integration, but this is just sort of well,— integration, but this is just sort of well, this is this is oh— sort of well, this is this is of the— sort of well, this is this is one of the other reasons that we wanted— one of the other reasons that we wanted ho— one of the other reasons that we wanted to come— one of the other reasons that we wanted to come here and this is, again,— wanted to come here and this is, hghhh another— wanted to come here and this is, again, another—why. again, another example of why boston— again, another example of why boston is— again, another example of why boston is such— again, another example of why boston is such perfect example again, another example of why boston is in:h perfect example again, another example of why boston is in modernfect example again, another example of why boston is in modern britain mple again, another example of why boston is in modern britain in)le of a town in modern britain in hhghhhh— of a town in modern britain in mass migration, britain, because when— mass migration, britain, because when heu— mass migration, britain, because when you hook— mass migration, britain, because when you look at— mass migration, britain, because when you look at the stats, this euppeeeeh— when you look at the stats, this eupheeeeh ,— when you look at the stats, this supposedly , paul,— when you look at the stats, this supposedly , paul, i don't know supposedly, paul, i don't know if heu— supposedly, paul, i don't know h you knew— supposedly, paul, i don't know if you know this. _ supposedly, paul, i don't know if you know this. 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if you know this. i mean, you live here is supposedly the least town in least well integrated town in britain. can you believe that .7 britain. can you believe that? well, i don't know about huegruhe,— well, i don't know about integrate, but— well, i don't know about integrate, but we have some fantastic.— integrate, but we have some fantastic. you _ integrate, but we have some fantastic. you know, customers hem— fantastic. you know, customers from uh— fantastic. you know, customers from all walks— fantastic. you know, customers from all walks of— fantastic. you know, customers from all walks of life and all eeuuhee— from all walks of life and all countries, various— from all walks of life and all countries, various that have made— countries, various that have made geod— countries, various that have made good homes themselves here. but made good homes themselves here. huh there-e— made good homes themselves here. huh hhere-e-ue— made good homes themselves here. but there's-we-our- made good homes themselves here. but there's we our own but there's also we have our own heh-e— but there's also we have our own heh-e shu— but there's also we have our own heh-e euy, hehhe— but there's also we have our own let's say, bombs as— but there's also we have our own let's say, bombs as well, you knew,— let's say, bombs as well, you knew, unu— let's say, bombs as well, you know, and they've— let's say, bombs as well, you know, and they've got some of hheee— know, and they've got some of hheee enee— know, and they've got some of these ones-come- know, and they've got some of these ones come here, these ones have come in here, heu— these ones have come in here, you—eh— these ones have come in here, you—eh hhhg.- you know, sort of thing. so and it's you know, sort of thing. so and hh-e-hheu,— you know, sort of thing. so and hh-e-hheu, h- you know, sort of thing. so and it's know, it beggars it's just, you know, it beggars hehheh— it's just, you know, it beggars hehheh-he— it's just, you know, it beggars belief,-to-it's- it's just, you know, it beggarsi belief,-to-it's been belief, really, to how it's been let belief, really, to how it's been heh 90— belief, really, to how it's been heh ge .— belief, really, to how it's been heh ge . h— belief, really, to how it's been let go . i didn't— belief, really, to how it's been let go . i didn't vote for this. let go. i didn't vote for this. ahe— let go. i didn't vote for this. and heu— let go. i didn't vote for this. and how has— let go. i didn't vote for this. and how has it— let go. i didn't vote for this. and how has it been let go? weh— and how has it been let go? huh-ene— and how has it been let go? well,-one thing- and how has it been let go? well, one thing that the well, look, one thing that the labour— well, look, one thing that the huheur-hhhe- well, look, one thing that the labour-trying to- well, look, one thing that the labour trying to say labour party are trying to say how-heu— labour party are trying to say how-hheu-eehgl now is that they are going to get— now is that they are going to eeh-uhhh— now is that they are going to get with migration more get to grips with migration more hhuh— get to grips with migration more than-conservative- get to grips with migration more than conservative party. than the conservative party. hheyhe— than the conservative party. they're really— than the conservative party. they're really focusing- they're really focusing it and some cleverly , some would say quite cleverly, actually, as starmer did at some would say quite cleverly, actual minister's starmer did at some would say quite cleverly, actual minister's questions d at prime minister's questions yesterday, seems long time ago yesterday, seems a long time ago now, about the now, yesterday, about the workers and the working class in britain and how very cheap foreign labour, huge record levels coming in is undermining the working class in this country . i'm the working class in this country. i'm going to ask the working class in this country . i'm going to ask you country. i'm going to ask you now, do you think that anyone who's a british employer in this

country should be made to or massively incentivised to employ british workers first, or people who have got a british passport? well, there's a minimum wage, hen-h— well, there's a minimum wage, heh-h hheree— well, there's a minimum wage, isn't there? and _ well, there's a minimum wage, isn't there? and as— well, there's a minimum wage, isn't there? and as you say, hhhheh— isn't there? and as you say, british passport.— isn't there? and as you say, british passport. you should be ehheueu— british passport. you should be uhheueu he— british passport. you should be allowed to work,— british passport. you should be allowed to work, you know, sort of hhhg.— allowed to work, you know, sort of hhhe. huh— allowed to work, you know, sort of hhhg. huh h— allowed to work, you know, sort of thing. but if you're if youe— of thing. but if you're if you're illegal,- of thing. but if you're if you're illegal, you shouldn't be ohhoueu— you're illegal, you shouldn't be allowed-basically.- allowed to work, basically. but hhere-e— allowed to work, basically. but there's—for! there's a minimum wage for everybody — everybody. there's different hohe—oe jobs and different skills, as you— jobs and different skills, as you know.— jobs and different skills, as you know. mean, there's you know. so, i mean, there's you— you know. so, i mean, there's you-o— you know. so, i mean, there's you-o hoh— you know. so, i mean, there's you-a lot-these. you know, if a lot of these heohhe— you know, if a lot of these peophe oe— you know, if a lot of these people are getting up, going out to people are getting up, going out ho-ohu— people are getting up, going out to-and whatever,- people are getting up, going out to and whatever, that's to work and whatever, that's hee— to work and whatever, that's hee-uhoh— to work and whatever, that's fine.-what.need. to work and whatever, that's. fine.-what.need and fine. that's what we need and get— fine. that's what we need and geh—heohhe- fine. that's what we need and eeh—heohhe h- fine. that's what we need and get—people in this| get up and go. people in this oounhry—uehe- country, you know, we're sort of a self—employed— country, you know, we're sort of a self—employed people. that's uhoh—you- a self—employed people. that's uhoh—you hhoui what we have to do, you know, aho— what we have to do, you know, aha-we— what we have to do, you know, aha-we heed- what we have to do, you know, and we need people and it sort of we need people he— and it sort of we need people hhe uhgeh— and it sort of we need people hhe uhgeh ho— and it sort of we need people like nigel to grab it. come on, head— like nigel to grab it. come on, head he— like nigel to grab it. come on, lead the country— like nigel to grab it. come on, lead the country against all he— lead the country against all he onu— lead the country against all this and sort— lead the country against all this and sort it— lead the country against all this and sort it out. you know, he— this and sort it out. you know, he h— this and sort it out. you know, he hh reohhy— this and sort it out. you know, it's it really is— this and sort it out. you know, it's it really is .— this and sort it out. you know, it's it really is . there's no it's it really is. there's no hoh— it's it really is. there's no hoh hohy— it's it really is. there's no not many other- it's it really is. there's no not many other people out there hhoh— not many other people out there hhoh ooh— not many other people out there hhoh ho— not many other people out there hhoh ho h.— not many other people out there that can do it. and— not many other people out there that can do it. and like you guys,— that can do it. and like you guys, you— that can do it. and like you guys, you know— that can do it. and like you guys, you know as well, you know , hh-e— guys, you know as well, you know , hh-elheeue— guys, you know as well, you know , it's.needslgood_ guys, you know as well, you know , it's needs good shake up , it's it needs a good shake up one— , it's it needs a good shake up one hohohhy— , it's it needs a good shake up and totally let— , it's it needs a good shake up and totally let down. yeah oheohuhehy. — and totally let down. yeah absolutely. who will you vote for absolutely. who will you vote hor oh— absolutely. who will you vote for oh hhe — absolutely. who will you vote for at the next— absolutely. who will you vote for at the next election? i've got— for at the next election? i've ooh ho — for at the next election? i've ooh ho he — for at the next election? i've got to be honest.- for at the next election? i've got to be honest. i don't know, you— got to be honest. i don't know, you-ooh— got to be honest. i don't know, you-ooh oh— got to be honest. i don't know, you-sort of thing.- got to be honest. i don't know, you sort of thing. and you know, sort of thing. so and it's

you know, sort of thing. so and hh-e—ohouh- you know, sort of thing. so and it's—about labour. it's i'm worried about labour eoyhg— it's i'm worried about labour. eoyhg—everee saying that they might reverse heexhh— saying that they might reverse hexhh. h— saying that they might reverse brexit. if that's— saying that they might reverse brexit. if that's the case. the shop— brexit. if that's the case. the ehohlhroheeh— brexit. if that's the case. the ehohlhroheeh he— brexit. if that's the case. the stop protest is doing all stop oil protest is doing all her— stop oil protest is doing all their disastrous— stop oil protest is doing all their disastrous stuff . if they their disastrous stuff. if they shah— their disastrous stuff. if they shah-hoh— their disastrous stuff. if they shah-hhoh ,— their disastrous stuff. if they shah-hhoh , h— their disastrous stuff. if they start that , i mean, start doing that, i mean, ohvhouehy— start doing that, i mean, obviously the— start doing that, i mean, obviously the process for that huh— obviously the process for that uhhh he — obviously the process for that uhhh he hh-hh— obviously the process for that will be it'll look _ obviously the process for that will be it'll look like cromwell woeou-v— will be it'll look like cromwell was-you know,- will be it'll look like cromwell was you know, there was a saint. you know, there huh— was a saint. you know, there uhhh he— was a saint. you know, there will be burning— was a saint. you know, there will be burning tires in the eheehe— will be burning tires in the streets. honestly it will it huh— streets. honestly it will it will-crazy— streets. honestly it will it will-crazy if- streets. honestly it will it will crazy if they reverse. will go crazy if they reverse. hush— will go crazy if they reverse. hush-hoh.— will go crazy if they reverse. just-paul, because. just quickly, paul, because i appreciate what appreciate your time and what is happening boston in happening here in in boston in is, i think, a bit of an outlier for lot of different areas in for a lot of different areas in the kingdom. we like to the united kingdom. we like to get here at gb get out and about here at gb news the people's channel and news as the people's channel and actually areas that, actually cover areas that, frankly, gary frankly, the likes of gary lineker's code lineker's of this world and code don't want lineker's of this world and code don't see. want lineker's of this world and code don't see. they want lineker's of this world and code don't see. they don't want lineker's of this world and code don't see. they don't reallynt you to see. they don't really nofice you to see. they don't really notice places. they don't notice these places. they don't really come to places like this and to people like you. if and speak to people like you. if something change and a something doesn't change and a government doesn't get to grips with numbers. so the volume with the numbers. so the volume of it where do you see this area going? this of it where do you see this area going ? this area, you can see it going? this area, you can see it everywhere — going? this area, you can see it now everywhere is— grin "g? this area, you can see it now everywhere is shutting down. he— now everywhere is shutting down. he wru— now everywhere is shutting down. he whhh he— now everywhere is shutting down. this will be all— now everywhere is shutting down. this will be all probably, you know,— this will be all probably, you know, h— this will be all probably, you know, h you— this will be all probably, you know, hr you go— this will be all probably, you know, if you go down west shreeh,— know, if you go down west street, that _ know, if you go down west street, that used to be a lovely ehopphg— street, that used to be a lovely ehohphg ehreeh— street, that used to be a lovely shopping street. now people have that shopping street. now people have

hhoh-ho— shopping street. now people have hhoh-ho go— shopping street. now people have that-no go zone.— shopping street. now people have that-no go zone. so- shopping street. now people have that no go zone. so people that as a no go zone. so people hush— that as a no go zone. so people iueh gohg— that as a no go zone. so people iueh gohg ho— that as a no go zone. so people are just going to move out and it are just going to move out and h wru— are just going to move out and h whhh he— are just going to move out and it will be well,— are just going to move out and it will be well, don't know it will be well, i don't know whoh— it will be well, i don't know whoh-or— it will be well, i don't know whoh-or o— it will be well, i don't know what-of a dare- it will be well, i don't know what of a dare say, what sort of a dare i say, rorehgh— what sort of a dare i say, foreign country, boston. it will not foreign country, boston. it will hoh he— foreign country, boston. it will hoh he you— foreign country, boston. it will not be you know,— foreign country, boston. it will not be you know, it will be, you know,— not be you know, it will be, you know, irrespective— not be you know, it will be, you know, irrespective of what oouhr— know, irrespective of what colour, - know, - know, irrespective of what colour,-know, i- know, irrespective of what colour, know, i mean, colour, you know, i mean, hhere-e— colour, you know, i mean, there's plenty— colour, you know, i mean, there's plenty of other ones hoh— there's plenty of other ones from different— there's plenty of other ones from different things here, but it from different things here, but hh wru— from different things here, but hh whhh-he— from different things here, but it will-be-i'm- it will just be gone, i'm arrow.— it will just be gone, i'm afraid. little— it will just be gone, i'm afraid. little old market town gone—houoyl afraid. little old market town gone—hooray .| afraid. little old market town. gone—hooray . huh gone looks beautiful today. but it's gone looks beautiful today. but rho—o— gone looks beautiful today. but it's—a reflection - gone looks beautiful today. but it's—a reflection . i it's really isn't a reflection. hook— it's really isn't a reflection. hooh hoh— it's really isn't a reflection. look bob paul,— it's really isn't a reflection. look bob paul, even- it's really isn't a reflection. look bob paul, even thank you very very much as paul girton there a washing machine repairs and you're ever in the boston and if you're ever in the boston area care look area or i may take care look after look loads more after yourself look loads more coming your like said bob coming your way like i said bob seely tory mp, you've just heard it many, it there haven't you, from many, many on earth many locals here. what on earth the been many locals here. what on earth the out? been many locals here. what on earth the out? what been many locals here. what on earth the out? what they zieen many locals here. what on earth the out? what they still get playing out? what they still get your and very shortly as your vote and very shortly as well. thangam debbonaire labour shadow cabinet we're shadow cabinet member we're going all going to be talking to her all about tuned about labour's plans. stay tuned

meets only on gb news britain's news. channel i welcome - news. channel welcome back to gb news. net migration special live here from boston lincolnshire , the boston in lincolnshire, the brexit capital of britain. but i have got some big breaking news to bring to you, tom harwood, our deputy political editor joins me. tom, i understand joins me. and tom, i understand that been driven into that a car has been driven into the of downing street, is the gates of downing street, is that correct? that is precisely whoh— that correct? that is precisely whuh appeare— that correct? that is precisely what appears to _ that correct? that is precisely what appears to have- ff“ that is precisely what appears to have happened. ff“ that is precisely what videos; to have happened. ff“ that is precisely what rvideos andiave happened. ff“ that is precisely what videos and pictures pened. ff“ that is precisely what videos and pictures now d. many videos and pictures now hohhe— many videos and pictures now huhhg hhehr— many videos and pictures now making their way— many videos and pictures now making their way onto social

heuho— making their way onto social rheuho or— making their way onto social media of what— making their way onto social media of what looks like a hurry— media of what looks like a fairly dramatic— media of what looks like a fairly dramatic collision of a whhh— fairly dramatic collision of a car with with— fairly dramatic collision of a car with with those famous howhhe— car with with those famous downing street _ car with with those famous downing street gates crashed in hoohe— downing street gates crashed in hoohe whee— downing street gates crashed in boots raised and— downing street gates crashed in boots raised and the streets now whhhehohh— boots raised and the streets now whitehall cordoned off to the huhhe— whitehall cordoned off to the huhhhe. hhere— whitehall cordoned off to the public. there are— whitehall cordoned off to the public. there are reports that whee— public. there are reports that orrheu hohhee— public. there are reports that armed police at— public. there are reports that armed police at the scene orreeheu— armed police at the scene arrested one— armed police at the scene arrested one man on suspicion of dangerous— arrested one man on suspicion of dangerous urwhg— arrested one man on suspicion of dangerous driving and criminal homoge— dangerous driving and criminal homage .— dangerous driving and criminal damage . huh— dangerous driving and criminal damage . huh h— dangerous driving and criminal damage . but in terms of more damage. but in terms of more hrorrhohhoh— damage. but in terms of more information, in— damage. but in terms of more information, in terms of motive or where— information, in terms of motive or indeed whether— information, in terms of motive or indeed whether or not this was accidental,— or indeed whether or not this was accidental, we just don't know— was accidental, we just don't know rh— was accidental, we just don't know h from — was accidental, we just don't know it from the— was accidental, we just don't know it from the images appears uhhhe— know it from the images appears uhhhhe rune,— know it from the images appears unlike julie, that— know it from the images appears unlike julie, that this would be oeehuehhoh— unlike julie, that this would be accidental driving. but as i say,— accidental driving. but as i say, we're still— accidental driving. but as i say, we're still looking for hhoh— say, we're still looking for that motive _ say, we're still looking for that motive . _ say, we're still looking for that motive . (lwo/e; that motive. okay. look, tom, thank you very, very much. we will be bringing you more on that big breaking story as and when we get it. tom harwood, our deputy political editor, if you're joining yes it's you're just joining us. yes it's believed has driven believed that a car has driven into the gates of downing street. as for street. one arrest as yet for dangerous driving criminal dangerous driving and criminal

damage. will be damage. but this will be a developing in the only developing story in the only place to it is right here on place to get it is right here on gb news. i am going to go now to bob seely, is the bob seely, who is the conservative the isle of conservative mp for the isle of wight. very much. wight. bob, thank you very much. great on the show. great to have you on the show. first foremost, bob, your first and foremost, bob, your reaction that breaking news reaction to that breaking news that giving you that we're just giving you there, which is about a car apparently driving into the gates downing street, gates of downing street, a dramatic scene. armed police involved. okay. dramatic scene. armed police involved . okay. well, i hope involved. okay. well, i hope hohouy-e— involved. okay. well, i hope hohouy-e huh,— involved. okay. well, i hope nobody's hurt, but- : okay. well, i hope nobody's hurt, but it sounds a prehhy— nobody's hurt, but it sounds a pretty unpleasant incident and it pretty unpleasant incident and h eouheu— pretty unpleasant incident and it sounds like— pretty unpleasant incident and it sounds like the police are eorhhe— it sounds like the police are eorhhe-hhow- it sounds like the police are. sorting-know more. sorting it. i don't know more. aho— sorting it. i don't know more. who—hemmed- sorting it. i don't know more. and—tempted really and i would be tempted really herhhheu— and i would be tempted really herhhheu hoh— and i would be tempted really tempted not to— and i would be tempted really tempted not to speculate anymore . huh— tempted not to speculate anymore . huh-soy,— tempted not to speculate anymore . huh-soy, r— tempted not to speculate anymore . huh-soy, r hope— tempted not to speculate anymore . but say, i hope nobody's . but as i say, i hope nobody's heeh— . but as i say, i hope nobody's been—sounds. been injured. and it sounds like the been injured. and it sounds like hhe-ueohhe— been injured. and it sounds like the-dealing with- been injured. and it sounds like the dealing with it the police are dealing with it oompehenhhy— the police are dealing with it competently. okay “in?" competently. okay yeah, ohsohuhehy— competently. okay yeah, absolutely. look, bob, okay, thank you. now, i'll just get back to the matter hand. back to the matter in hand. really, bob, that's okay with really, bob, if that's okay with you, which is that this is, of course, our migration course, our net migration special. today special. and the figures today were unsurprising, but devastating all in the same measure. on the measure. and the noise is on the ground conservatives ground that the conservatives have british public have lied to the british public about any desire to get net migration how you migration down. how would you respond ? we haven't lied respond to that? we haven't lied to respond to that? we haven't lied ho hhe— respond to that? we haven't lied ho hhe huhho— respond to that? we haven't lied to the public, but— respond to that? we haven't lied to the public, but to—

: $17 we haven't lied to the public, but to answer i hhhh— to the public, but to answer i hhhh rh— to the public, but to answer i hhhh hh woe— to the public, but to answer i think it was paul— to the public, but to answer i think it was paul had some prohherhe— think it was paul had some problems logging on. apologies to answer-what- problems logging on. apologies to answer what he's saying to answer paul, what he's saying is to answer paul, what he's saying he hoeheohhy— to answer paul, what he's saying is basically saying— to answer paul, what he's saying is basically saying it's not good— is basically saying it's not good enough.— is basically saying it's not good enough. he's right. we're is basically saying it's not good enyour. he's right. we're is basically saying it's not good enyour handsright. we're is basically saying it's not good enyour hands up.t. we're is basically saying it's not good enyour hands up. we're'e is basically saying it's not good enyour hands up. we're not holding your hands up. we're not finding— holding your hands up. we're not finding excuses.— holding your hands up. we're not finding excuses. there's an eoohuhohhoh— finding excuses. there's an. explanation—it's explanation why some of it's hohhehhg— explanation why some of it's hohhehhg how— explanation why some of it's happening now. we can discuss explanation why some of it's happrbutg now. we can discuss explanation why some of it's happrbut we ow. we can discuss explanation why some of it's happrbut we promise an discuss explanation why some of it's happrbut we promise to discuss explanation why some of it's happrbut we promise to get uss explanation why some of it's happrbut we promise to get its that, but we promise to get it down.— that, but we promise to get it down. were— that, but we promise to get it down. we're not— that, but we promise to get it down. we're not getting it down. we down. we're not getting it down. we heed— down. we're not getting it down. we need ho— down. we're not getting it down. we need ho eeh— down. we're not getting it down. we need to get it— down. we're not getting it down. we need to get it down. of. we need to get it down. end of. ohoy. — we need to get it down. end of. ohoy. au— we need to get it down. end of. ohoy. uh huh.— we need to get it down. end of. okay. all right. and _ we need to get it down. end of. okay. all right. and how- we need to get it down. end of. okay. all right. and how are you going to do that? because i am here in the brexit capital of britain, in boston, in lincolnshire. people here voted to take back control. and we're looking at some of the numbers now. 900,000 arrivals now. around 900,000 arrivals from countries. i do from non—eu countries. i do think that was the kind of stuff that we were supposed to be in control bob, you're control of. bob, you're absolutely right. okay. let's just absolutely right. okay. let's iueh huh— absolutely right. okay. let's iueh huh rh— absolutely right. okay. let's iueh huh hh h— cigar ” g okay. let's just put it in perspective of because— just put it in perspective of because some— just put it in perspective of because some of this there's a posh— because some of this there's a pooh-huh— because some of this there's a pooh-huh here.- because some of this there's a post-blip here. so- post covid blip here. so ehuuehhe— post covid blip here. so students are— post covid blip here. so students are coming back into the students are coming back into hhe eouhhry. — students are coming back into the country. they're counting as hherohhoh— the country. they're counting as hhgrohhoh rh— the country. they're counting as migration in, although most of hen— migration in, although most of hen woh-h— migration in, although most of them won't stay— migration in, although most of them won't stay away. it sounds hhe— them won't stay away. it sounds hhe hhe— them won't stay away. it sounds like the system— them won't stay away. it sounds like the system is— them won't stay away. it sounds like the system is being gamed to like the system is being gamed ho-exhehh— like the system is being gamed ho-exhehh .— like the system is being gamed to-extent . so- like the system is being gamed to-extent . so you- like the system is being gamed to extent . so you can to a certain extent. so you can come here on an— to a certain extent. so you can come here on an ma nine month degree— come here on an ma nine month degree course— come here on an ma nine month uegree ,— come here on an ma nine month degree course , you— come here on an ma nine month degree course , you can bring

degree course, you can bring your— degree course, you can bring your dependencies and you've got the your dependencies and you've got hhe rhghh— your dependencies and you've got hhe rhghh ho— your dependencies and you've got the right to live— your dependencies and you've got the right to live here for three years— the right to live here for three years her— the right to live here for three years after that. _ the right to live here for three years after that. so that's eheehhwe— years after that. so that's effective. being used as a bit of effective. being used as a bit or u— effective. being used as a bit or e rouhe— effective. being used as a bit of a route into— effective. being used as a bit of a route into towards citizenship _ of a route into towards citizenship by some. we are going— citizenship by some. we are gohg ho— citizenship by some. we are gohg ho ehuh— citizenship by some. we are going to shut that down. so from the going to shut that down. so from hhe enu— going to shut that down. so from hhe end or— going to shut that down. so from hhe end or he— going to shut that down. so from the end of the year— going to shut that down. so from the end of the year you won't be ohhe— the end of the year you won't be able-dependents- able to bring dependents in for ohyhhhg— able to bring dependents in for uhyhhhg reee— able to bring dependents in for anything less than phds that wru— anything less than phds that whhh oheeh— anything less than phds that will affect probably about home— will affect probably about 100,000 people trying get in 100,000 people trying to get in at 100,000 people trying to get in oh—.— 100,000 people trying to get in oh—. voue- 100,000 people trying to get in oh—. voue goh- 100,000 people trying to get in at_. you've got thej at the moment. you've got the uhrohe— at the moment. you've got the uhrohe wor— at the moment. you've got the ukraine war and— at the moment. you've got the ukraine war and you've got the hohg— ukraine war and you've got the hohg kong,— ukraine war and you've got the hong kong, you've got people rheehg— hong kong, you've got people fleeing chinese— hong kong, you've got people fleeing chinese communist gereeeuhhoh— fleeing chinese communist persecution in— fleeing chinese communist persecution in hong kong that's eooheu— persecution in hong kong that's eooheu uh— persecution in hong kong that's soaked up about— persecution in hong kong that's soaked up about 300,000 people. we soaked up about 300,000 people. we hroughh— soaked up about 300,000 people. we hroughh h— soaked up about 300,000 people. we brought in 300,000 people roughhy— we brought in 300,000 people roughhy oer— we brought in 300,000 people roughly over the— we brought in 300,000 people roughly over the last year and a hoh— roughly over the last year and a hoh hwo— roughly over the last year and a hoh hwo yeore— roughly over the last year and a half, two years on— roughly over the last year and a half, two years on that. most uhrohhohe— half, two years on that. most ukrainians are— half, two years on that. most ukrainians are going to go back mosh— ukrainians are going to go back hoeh hohg— ukrainians are going to go back most hong kongers will stay, ohhhough— most hong kongers will stay, although some— most hong kongers will stay, although some will go to us and cohouo. — although some will go to us and cohouo. so— although some will go to us and canada. so there— although some will go to us and canada. so there is— although some will go to us and canada. so there is a little bit hhere-e— canada. so there is a little bit more there's a— canada. so there is a little bit more there's a little bit more up for— more there's a little bit more up for discussion— more there's a little bit more up for discussion within those. let up for discussion within those. hoh-huh— up for discussion within those. hoh-ouhlhere. - up for discussion within those. let-cutlhere, bob,- let me just cut in here, bob, and just say , yeah, just say and just say, yeah, just say that a lot of people might be willing swallow the big net willing to swallow the big net migration if felt migration number if they felt better off and it's all very well and good trying say that well and good trying to say that we're around we're throwing our arms around the world and we're doing it for

our for gdp, but the our bit, for gdp, but the population per capita, i think, bob, they bob, when they look around, they don't you no . don't feel richer. you no. okay, look. sorry. that again. cowh— okay, look. sorry. that again. covrh roo— okay, look. sorry. that again. covid 400 billion spent on that one— covid 400 billion spent on that one he— covid 400 billion spent on that and it's driven— covid 400 billion spent on that and it's driven inflation. the uhrohe— and it's driven inflation. the uhrehe we— and it's driven inflation. the ukraine war driven inflation. agehh— ukraine war driven inflation. agehh youre— ukraine war driven inflation. again, you're dealing with big massive once— again, you're dealing with big massive once in— again, you're dealing with big massive once in a generation eehhe— massive once in a generation eehhe hheh— massive once in a generation events that are— massive once in a generation events that are happening every eouhhe— events that are happening every eouhhe or— events that are happening every eoughe or yeere— events that are happening every couple of years at— events that are happening every couple of years at the moment. huh— couple of years at the moment. huh hheee— couple of years at the moment. huh hheee ee— couple of years at the moment. but these are meant be big but these are meant to be big oh— but these are meant to be big one off events— but these are meant to be big one off events when it comes you rhehe— one off events when it comes you rhehe-reehhy— one off events when it comes you make really important make a really really important hohh— make a really really important hohh-suehhe— make a really really important point suella talks about. point which suella talks about. who—hewel and i think paul might have rhehhhoheu— and i think paul might have mentioned to be mentioned as well, we need to be hrehhg— mentioned as well, we need to be hrehhg uh— mentioned as well, we need to be hrehhg up our— mentioned as well, we need to be training up our own— mentioned as well, we need to be training up our own people. look the training up our own people. look hhe—rerhy- training up our own people. look the—party should. training up our own people. look the party should be training up our own people. look the on party should be training up our own people. look the on where party should be training up our own people. look the on where gb arty should be training up our own people. look the on where gb arty sh are. be training up our own people. look the on where gb arty sh are. we bang on where gb views are. we hhhh— bang on where gb views are. we think political— bang on where gb views are. we think political .— bang on where gb views are. we think political . we— bang on where gb views are. we think political . we think think political. we think hohhhheeh— think political. we think political—has think political. we think- political_has gone political correctness has gone hoo— political correctness has gone hooou—r- political correctness has gone too _our history. political correctness has gone. too _our history and too far. we love our history and hreehhhohe— too far. we love our history and hreehhhohe h— too far. we love our history and traditions in this— too far. we love our history and traditions in this country, ehhehh— traditions in this country, albeit multi—ethnic albeit in a multi—ethnic eehhhg— albeit in a multi—ethnic setting. and— albeit in a multi—ethnic setting. and we need to get hhhhgrehhoh— setting. and we need to get immigration down. we need to here— immigration down. we need to hreh-heohhe- immigration down. we need to hreh-heohhe .- immigration down. we need to train people . that's train our own people. that's hhhorhehh.— train our own people. that's theorem-you- train our own people. that's important. you like me, important. and if you like me, rh— important. and if you like me, i'm happy— important. and if you like me, the heppy ho— important. and if you like me, i'm happy to explain how we're oohg. — i'm happy to explain how we're oohg. _muchl i'm happy to explain how we're oohg. —huoh. i'm happy to explain how we're- oohg. —huoh . r-h doing. thank you very much. i'm sorry . look, absolutely. look, sorry. look, absolutely. look, bob, to talk to you bob, i would love to talk to you again bit on in again a little bit later on in the show, if possible. bob seely there, conservative the there, conservative mp for the isle this our big isle of wight. this is our big net special. stay net migration special. stay tuned when come tuned to gb news. when i come back, have a lot more on

back, i will have a lot more on that big breaking car that big breaking news. a car has driven in the gates of has driven to in the gates of downing street. person downing street. one person arrested more detail downing street. one person arrrthat. more detail downing street. one person arrrthat. don't more detail downing street. one person arrrthat. don't takenore detail downing street. one person arrrthat. don't take your detail downing street. one person arrrthat. don't take your eyes. on that. don't take your eyes off it .

welcome back, everybody . patrick welcome back, everybody. patrick christys here for gb news. i'm taking you straight to downing street with our political editor

darren mccaffrey, because there street with our political editor daribeen:caffrey, because there street with our political editor daribeen:crmajor,because there street with our political editor daribeen:crmajor, majore there street with our political editor daribeen:crmajor, major breaking has been a major, major breaking incident. darren, what's going . incident. darren, what's going. on yeah, very good afternoon, hehrheh— on yeah, very good afternoon, rehrheh. ae— on yeah, very good afternoon, rehrheh. as you— on yeah, very good afternoon, patrick. as you can— o" yeah, very good afternoon, patrick. as you can probably see hoh— patrick. as you can probably see from hhe— patrick. as you can probably see from the shots— patrick. as you can probably see from the shots on— patrick. as you can probably see from the shots on your television,— from the shots on your television, that is a car that hee— television, that is a car that has somewhat— television, that is a car that has somewhat become wedged egeheh— has somewhat become wedged egeheh hhe— has somewhat become wedged against the gates— has somewhat become wedged against the gates of downing shreeh— against the gates of downing shreeh .— against the gates of downing shreeh . hoh— against the gates of downing street . not entirely clear how street. not entirely clear how hheh— street. not entirely clear how hheh hee— street. not entirely clear how that has happened in the sense hheh— that has happened in the sense hheh we— that has happened in the sense hheh we hoh-h— that has happened in the sense that we don't really have any whereo— that we don't really have any video footage _ that we don't really have any video footage or— that we don't really have any video footage or indeed information— video footage or indeed information from the police ehouh— information from the police ehouh how— information from the police about how it— information from the police about how it ended there. but about how it ended up there. but eheerhy— about how it ended up there. but cheery-hone— about how it ended up there. but clearly-done so— clearly it has done so deliberately. - clearly it has done so deliberately. one man has been erreehert— deliberately. one man has been erreehee, hhe — deliberately. one man has been arrested, the metropolitan rohhee— arrested, the metropolitan police-issued - arrested, the metropolitan police issued a pretty police have issued a pretty ehorh— police have issued a pretty short statement saying that at erouhh— short statement saying that at erouhh-hhh- short statement saying that at around this afternoon, around 4:20 pm. this afternoon, around 4:20 pm. this afternoon, a car collided _ around 4:20 pm. this afternoon, a car collided with— around 4:20 pm. this afternoon, a car collided with the gates of howhhg— a car collided with the gates of downing street _ a car collided with the gates of downing street and whitehall. armed— downing street and whitehall. armed officers— downing street and whitehall. armed officers who, of course, hehheh— armed officers who, of course, rhehheh hhe— armed officers who, of course, manned the gates— armed officers who, of course, manned the gates of downing shreeh— manned the gates of downing shreeh eh— manned the gates of downing shreeh eh eu— manned the gates of downing street at all times, arrested a eh— street at all times, arrested a eh hhe— street at all times, arrested a man at the scene— street at all times, arrested a man at the scene on suspicion of erhrhheh— man at the scene on suspicion of erhrhheh hehege— man at the scene on suspicion of criminal damage and dangerous hrhwhg— criminal damage and dangerous erwhg. hhere— criminal damage and dangerous driving. there are— criminal damage and dangerous driving. there are no reports of any— driving. there are no reports of ehy hturhee— driving. there are no reports of any injuries and— driving. there are no reports of any injuries and enquiries are ohgohg— any injuries and enquiries are ohgohg how— any injuries and enquiries are ongoing now. the situation at the ongoing now. the situation at hhe rhorhehh— ongoing now. the situation at the moment is— ongoing now. the situation at the moment is for those that are rehehwehy— the moment is for those that are relatively familiar— the moment is for those that are relatively familiar with the scenes of central london, ingengn, — scenes of central london, whitehall, which is the place where— whitehall, which is the place where you— whitehall, which is the place where you find—

whitehall, which is the place where you find all the major rhhhehrhee— where you find all the major ministries and— where you find all the major ministries and buildings of ehehe— ministries and buildings of ehehe h— ministries and buildings of state in london, such as the rorehgh— state in london, such as the foreign office,— state in london, such as the foreign office, the treasury and so on, is closed— foreign office, the treasury and so on, is closed to— foreign office, the treasury and so on, is closed to traffic . so on, is closed to traffic. hhere-e— so on, is closed to traffic. there's quite— so on, is closed to traffic. there's quite a- so on, is closed to traffic. there's quite a lot of police, huh— there's quite a lot of police, huh hoh,— there's quite a lot of police, huh hoh, hoh— there's quite a lot of police, but not, not not— there's quite a lot of police, but not, not not masses, but guhhe— but not, not not masses, but guhhe e— but not, not not masses, but guhhe e hoh. — but not, not not masses, but quite a lot. patrick, police, hhey-we— quite a lot. patrick, police, they've clearly— quite a lot. patrick, police, they've clearly closed the roads to they've clearly closed the roads ho hrehhe— they've clearly closed the roads ho hrehhe eh— they've clearly closed the roads to traffic at the— they've clearly closed the roads to traffic at the moment. that he— to traffic at the moment. that he wedged— to traffic at the moment. that car is wedged against the main gehee— car is wedged against the main gehee. wow,— car is wedged against the main gates. now, again,— car is wedged against the main gates. now, again, to kind of ehrrerehh— gates. now, again, to kind of different layers— gates. now, again, to kind of different layers of security, if you— different layers of security, if you the — different layers of security, if you like. there— different layers of security, if you like. there are different herrhere— you like. there are different herrhere ho— you like. there are different barriers to get— you like. there are different barriers to get into the gates . barriers to get into the gates. it barriers to get into the gates. rh eppeere— barriers to get into the gates. rh eggeere ho— barriers to get into the gates. it appears to have got through or— it appears to have got through or here— it appears to have got through one of them somehow . again, we one of them somehow. again, we do one of them somehow. again, we to hoh— one of them somehow. again, we to hoh hhow. — one of them somehow. again, we to hoh hhow. rh— one of them somehow. again, we do not know. it doesn't seem the eourhe— do not know. it doesn't seem the eourhe hoh — do not know. it doesn't seem the courts from where _ do not know. it doesn't seem the courts from where i— do not know. it doesn't seem the courts from where i can see to be courts from where i can see to he gerhheuherhy— courts from where i can see to be particularly damaged at the how,— be particularly damaged at the non, huh— be particularly damaged at the front, but clearly— be particularly damaged at the front, but clearly it's not got hhrough— front, but clearly it's not got hhrough hhe— front, but clearly it's not got through the main gates. and all we-welhoh— through the main gates. and all we-we.not know- through the main gates. and all we we not know the we know, we do not know the hhehhhoh— we know, we do not know the intention _may. we know, we do not know the. intention _ may well intention behind what may well hewe— intention behind what may well hewe-eh— intention behind what may well hewe-eh eh.- intention behind what may well have-at all. the- intention behind what may well have at all. the police have happened at all. the police are have happened at all. the police eeyhg— have happened at all. the police are saying-moment- have happened at all. the police are saying moment is that are saying at the moment is that the are saying at the moment is that hheieohhheh— are saying at the moment is that hheieohhheh ,— are saying at the moment is that the-collided , that- are saying at the moment is that the collided , that a has the car collided, that a man has been— the car collided, that a man has been arrested— the car collided, that a man has been arrested for— the car collided, that a man has been arrested for criminal eehege— been arrested for criminal damage dangerous driving and damage and dangerous driving and here— damage and dangerous driving and hhere-heeh— damage and dangerous driving and hhere-heeh ho— damage and dangerous driving and there been no injuries , as there have been no injuries, as you— there have been no injuries, as you know.— there have been no injuries, as you know. who— there have been no injuries, as you know. and the— there have been no injuries, as you know. and the grand scheme of you know. and the grand scheme or hhhge— you know. and the grand scheme or hhhge ooee— you know. and the grand scheme of things does not— you know. and the grand scheme of things does not seem like it is of things does not seem like it he e— of things does not seem like it is a significant— of things does not seem like it is a significant event, if you hhe— is a significant event, if you the, eherh— is a significant event, if you like, apart from _ is a significant event, if you like, apart from the fact that

hhe— like, apart from the fact that hhe hohhee — like, apart from the fact that the police were— like, apart from the fact that the police were it's happened is eheerhy— the police were it's happened is eheerhy hhe— the police were it's happened is clearly the prime— the police were it's happened is clearly the prime minister's home— clearly the prime minister's hohe hheh— clearly the prime minister's home rishi sunak we're not sure if home rishi sunak we're not sure h hhe— home rishi sunak we're not sure h hhe hume— home rishi sunak we're not sure if the prime minister is in eehehhee — if the prime minister is in residence. parliament has just hroheh— residence. parliament has just woken up— residence. parliament has just woken up for— residence. parliament has just broken up for its— residence. parliament has just broken up for its recess for the hexh— broken up for its recess for the hexh her— broken up for its recess for the hexh heh heye— broken up for its recess for the next ten days. we— broken up for its recess for the next ten days. we don't know if the next ten days. we don't know if hhe hume— next ten days. we don't know if the prime minister— next ten days. we don't know if the prime minister was in howhhg— the prime minister was in downing street at the time, but at downing street at the time, but eh hhe— downing street at the time, but at the moment— downing street at the time, but at the moment all— downing street at the time, but at the moment all we do know is hheh— at the moment all we do know is hheh eehhreh— at the moment all we do know is that central london— at the moment all we do know is that central london is closed eho— that central london is closed end e— that central london is closed end e er— that central london is closed and a car has— that central london is closed and a car has collided with the ehreeh— and a car has collided with the ehreeh ,— and a car has collided with the ehreeh , whhh— and a car has collided with the street , with the— and a car has collided with the street , with the gates of number street, with the gates of number 10. street, with the gates of number to one— street, with the gates of number to one hheh— street, with the gates of number 10. one man has— street, with the gates of number 10. one man has been arrested, huh— 10. one man has been arrested, huh hhue— 10. one man has been arrested, huh hhue rer— 10. one man has been arrested, but thus far there— 10. one man has been arrested, but thus far there have been no reoorhe— but thus far there have been no reoorhe or— but thus far there have been no regorhe or ery— but thus far there have been no reports of any injuries as no reoorhe— reports of any injuries as no regorhe or— reports of any injuries as no regorhe or ery— reports of any injuries as no reports of any injuries. ' r: reports of any injuries. and herreh— reports of any injuries. and herreh hh— reports of any injuries. and darren, it would _ reports of any injuries. and darren, it would appear that the pubuc darren, it would appear that the public have been quite lucky because as we all know, that particular part of london and downing street is usually a hotspot people , tourists and hotspot of people, tourists and just ordinary people walking around. and again , i'm just around. and again, i'm just having some images here in front of me now of the live shots that we are showing on gb news of that car. and darren, there can be no that for be almost no doubt that for someone hit that gate, it someone to hit that gate, it must had to been must have had to have been a deliberate action. but you're on the scene now. terms of the scene now. so in terms of the scene now. so in terms of the cordon around the

the police cordon around the area everything , are they area and everything, are they keeping people well away? it's hard for to tell from this hard for me to tell from this camera . what's the camera angle. what's the situation like where are? situation like where you are? yeah i have to say, i mean, you know, i've covered quite a few of these in the past, of these incidents in the past, major security incidents, including, previous including, you know, previous terrorist is terrorist attacks. and there is no ehgh— terrorist attacks. and there is no ehgh eh— terrorist attacks. and there is no ehgh eh hhe— f and there is no sign at the moment and no hhorrhehhoh— no sign at the moment and no information-police- no sign at the moment and no information police about information of the police about the intention— information of the police about the intention-has- the intention of what has hehhehee— the intention of what has happened-but- the intention of what has happened but actually, happened here. but actually, we are happened here. but actually, we -erehoee r— happened here. but actually, we are-close. i mean,- are relatively close. i mean, i eeehe—r- are relatively close. i mean, i eeh—r-hlhhel can see the car. i'm at the hohhee— can see the car. i'm at the police cordon,— can see the car. i'm at the police cordon, but i'm probably erourh— police cordon, but i'm probably erouhh rs,— police cordon, but i'm probably around 15, 20m— police cordon, but i'm probably around 15, 20m away. and we are eurgrhehghy— around 15, 20m away. and we are surprisingly close.— around 15, 20m away. and we are surprisingly close. in fact , it surprisingly close. in fact, it hooke— surprisingly close. in fact, it hoohe hhe— surprisingly close. in fact, it looks like at— surprisingly close. in fact, it looks like at the— surprisingly close. in fact, it looks like at the moment the hohhee— looks like at the moment the gohhee ee— looks like at the moment the police are putting up a more hoee— police are putting up a more closer cordon,— police are putting up a more closer cordon, if— police are putting up a more closer cordon, if you like, erouhh— closer cordon, if you like, around the— closer cordon, if you like, around the gates of number 10. it around the gates of number 10. h he— around the gates of number 10. h he ehhhrehy— around the gates of number 10. it is entirely possible they open— it is entirely possible they open up— it is entirely possible they open up hhe— it is entirely possible they open up the main road relatively hhe— open up the main road relatively soon. this incident— open up the main road relatively soon. this incident happened heee— soon. this incident happened heee hheh— soon. this incident happened less than an _ soon. this incident happened less than an hour ago. you're rhghh— less than an hour ago. you're rhghh h— less than an hour ago. you're rhghh hh eeyhg— less than an hour ago. you're right in saying this is a busy roerh— right in saying this is a busy roeh. rh-e— right in saying this is a busy road. it's one— right in saying this is a busy road. it's one of— right in saying this is a busy road. it's one of the main thoroughfares— road. it's one of the main thoroughfares through london. hhere— thoroughfares through london. hheh-or— thoroughfares through london. there-of tourists- there are lots of tourists erourh— there are lots of tourists around-are-atl there are lots of tourists. around-are-at the around who are also at the hohhee— around who are also at the police cordon— around who are also at the- police cordon-intrigued police cordon who are intrigued ehouh— police cordon who are intrigued ehouh-gohg— police cordon who are intrigued ehouh-gohg oh- police cordon who are intrigued about going on. and about what is going on. and eheerhy— about what is going on. and clearlyithere's_ about what is going on. and clearly there's media clearly, there's a large media presence .well_ clearly, there's a large media presence .well .— clearly, there's a large media presence well . there's not presence as well. there's not heeeeeerhhy— presence as well. there's not necessarily number of necessarily the number of ohheere. — officers. again one would eueheeh—

officers. again one would euegeeh h— officers. again one would suspect if the _ officers. again one would suspect if the police were hreehhg— suspect if the police were treating this— suspect if the police were treating this as, you know, more hheh— treating this as, you know, more hheh wheh— treating this as, you know, more than what appears— treating this as, you know, more than what appears to be, at heeeh— than what appears to be, at heeeh eh— than what appears to be, at heeeh eh hhe— than what appears to be, at least at the moment, an isolated heeeh.— least at the moment, an isolated hohhehh. huh— least at the moment, an isolated incident. but but,— least at the moment, an isolated incident. but but, yes, this is he— incident. but but, yes, this is he r— incident. but but, yes, this is he r wouhh— incident. but but, yes, this is this i would assume , and that is this i would assume, and that is all this i would assume, and that is ehh r— this i would assume, and that is ehh r eh— this i would assume, and that is ehh r ho— this i would assume, and that is ehh r ho eh— this i would assume, and that is all i can do at this— this i would assume, and that is all i can do at this moment in the— all i can do at this moment in hhrhe hoee— all i can do at this moment in time does look— all i can do at this moment in time does look like it is a deliberate— time does look like it is a deliberate incident. i mean, you hoh-h— deliberate incident. i mean, you don't inadvertently turn in and eeeh— don't inadvertently turn in and ereeh hhrough— don't inadvertently turn in and crash through one gates when in howhhg— crash through one gates when in howhhg ehreeh— crash through one gates when in downing street in— crash through one gates when in downing street in central hohhoh.— downing street in central hohhoh. r— downing street in central london. i mean, i think it's her— london. i mean, i think it's her ho— london. i mean, i think it's her ho eey— london. i mean, i think it's fair to say that. _ london. i mean, i think it's fair to say that. i- london. i mean, i think it's fair to say that. i mean, a hereon— fair to say that. i mean, a hereoh hee— fair to say that. i mean, a person has been arrested for erhrhheh— person has been arrested for criminal damage, but i think it's criminal damage, but i think the her— criminal damage, but i think the her ho— criminal damage, but i think it's fair to say— criminal damage, but i think it's fair to say that this is eorhewheh— it's fair to say that this is somewhat of— it's fair to say that this is somewhat of a- it's fair to say that this is somewhat of a deliberate action. hhe— somewhat of a deliberate action. he reeeoh— somewhat of a deliberate action. the reason behind— somewhat of a deliberate action. the reason behind it, we do not know.— the reason behind it, we do not hhowleheerhy— the reason behind it, we do not know. .eheerhy ,— the reason behind it, we do not know.-clearly , it- the reason behind it, we do not know.-clearly , it is- the reason behind it, we do not know. clearly , it is very know. but clearly, it is very eoheerhhg— know. but clearly, it is very concerning given the fact that it's concerning given the fact that hh-e-hhe — concerning given the fact that it's-the prime- concerning given the fact that it's the prime minister it's home to the prime minister reeh— it's home to the prime minister veeh roe. — it's home to the prime minister yeah 100. and— it's home to the prime minister yeah 100. and as— it's home to the prime minister yeah 100. ' r: r: yeah 100. and as you've said there, we don't quite know whether or not rishi sunak was necessarily there at the time. either way, doesn't really either way, it doesn't really particularly that particularly matter as that car got near getting through got nowhere near getting through the what we the actual gates from what we can de—man i must say, one can see. de—man i must say, one of the things surprises me of the things that surprises me about just given nature about it just given the nature of incident as it currently of the incident as it currently stands that stands from the images that i can see, there doesn't appear to be bomb disposal

be anything like a bomb disposal unit anything. it just unit or anything. it is just a police some officers police cordon and some officers standing right? standing around. is that right? yeah. which i have to say yeah. again which i have to say hoee— yeah. again which i have to say eoee ehhghhhy— yeah. again which i have to say does slightly surprise me in the hheh— does slightly surprise me in the hheh r— does slightly surprise me in the sense that i mean,— does slightly surprise me in the sense that i mean, the police eheerhy— sense that i mean, the police eheerhy hueh— sense that i mean, the police clearly must have— sense that i mean, the police clearly must have reacted quite guhehhy— clearly must have reacted quite guhehhy. we— clearly must have reacted quite quickly. we know— clearly must have reacted quite quickly. we know at one stage eho— quickly. we know at one stage ehe rye— quickly. we know at one stage end he eee— quickly. we know at one stage and i've seen social media wheoe— and i've seen social media wheoe-where- and i've seen social media videos where the boot and i've seen social media- videos-where the boot was videos posted where the boot was open — videos posted where the boot was open ,— videos posted where the boot was open , so — videos posted where the boot was open , so hhey— videos posted where the boot was open , so they clearly have open, so they clearly have eeereheh— open, so they clearly have searched the _ open, so they clearly have searched the car. and that is eorhehhhg— searched the car. and that is something that— searched the car. and that is something that very, very used to, something that very, very used ho-heeeuee — something that very, very used to,-because most- something that very, very used to, because most cars to, patrick, because most cars hheh— to, patrick, because most cars hheh go— to, patrick, because most cars hheh go h— to, patrick, because most cars that go in there,— to, patrick, because most cars that go in there, unless they're hume— that go in there, unless they're prime ministerial— that go in there, unless they're prime ministerial or ministerial geh— prime ministerial or ministerial cars, get searched— prime ministerial or ministerial cars, get searched anyway when hhey-re— cars, get searched anyway when hhey-re wheh — cars, get searched anyway when they're when they're allowed hhrough — they're when they're allowed hhrough hhe — they're when they're allowed through the gate officially. so eheerhy— through the gate officially. so eheerhy hhey— through the gate officially. so clearly they would have been ehhe — clearly they would have been ehhe ho — clearly they would have been ehhe ho eerry— clearly they would have been able to carry out— clearly they would have been able to carry out an inspection of able to carry out an inspection or hhe— able to carry out an inspection or hhe er— able to carry out an inspection of the car pretty— able to carry out an inspection of the car pretty quickly to eeherrhhe — of the car pretty quickly to determine it— of the car pretty quickly to determine it was safe. but yes, youe— determine it was safe. but yes, you-re-ehweh— determine it was safe. but yes, you're-given the- determine it was safe. but yes, you're given the fact you're right. given the fact hheh— you're right. given the fact hheh we— you're right. given the fact that we-really- you're right. given the fact that we really quite close, that we are really quite close, as that we are really quite close, ee-whhh— that we are really quite close, ee-whhh re,— that we are really quite close, as _with 18, 15m - that we are really quite close, as-with 18, 15m of- that we are really quite close, as with 18, 15m of where as i say, with 18, 15m of where hhe— as i say, with 18, 15m of where hhe hherheh— as i say, with 18, 15m of where the internet is— as i say, with 18, 15m of where the internet is ,— as i say, with 18, 15m of where the internet is , and given the the internet is, and given the reeh— the internet is, and given the tech hheh— the internet is, and given the fact that there's— the internet is, and given the fact that there's not an enormous police presence or any or— enormous police presence or any or hhe— enormous police presence or any or hhe er— enormous police presence or any sense of the car being an hhrhhehh— sense of the car being an imminent threat, i think you can eohehuhe— imminent threat, i think you can conclude they've— imminent threat, i think you can conclude they've decided that he— conclude they've decided that hhheleh — conclude they've decided that this-an _incident. conclude they've decided that this an incident in this is an isolated incident in hhe— this is an isolated incident in hhe eehee— this is an isolated incident in the sense that— this is an isolated incident in the sense that it— this is an isolated incident in the sense that it has tried to get— the sense that it has tried to geh-hhe— the sense that it has tried to geh-hhe gehee- the sense that it has tried to. get-the gates,-the get through the gates, but the

car get through the gates, but the eerho-h— get through the gates, but the eerho-h e— get through the gates, but the eerho-h e-orl get through the gates, but thei car-not a-or an car itself is not a danger or an hhrhhehh— car itself is not a danger or an imminent threat— car itself is not a danger or an imminent threat to the public or heeeh— imminent threat to the public or indeed-downing— imminent threat to the public or indeed downing street itself indeed to downing street itself . eo— indeed to downing street itself . so ehh— indeed to downing street itself . so ehe ee— indeed to downing street itself . so ehe ee r— indeed to downing street itself . so and as i say,— indeed to downing street itself . so and as i say, i've covered rhehy— . so and as i say, i've covered rhehy hohhehhe— . so and as i say, i've covered many incidents, including the orewoue— many incidents, including the previous terrorist— many incidents, including the previous terrorist incidents here— previous terrorist incidents here h— previous terrorist incidents here in westminster over the yeere— here in westminster over the yeere .— here in westminster over the yeere . hou— here in westminster over the years . you know,— here in westminster over the years . you know, the police do years. you know, the police do grehhy— years. you know, the police do seem pretty pretty relaxed about this seem pretty pretty relaxed about hhhe ho— seem pretty pretty relaxed about he ho he— seem pretty pretty relaxed about this to be fair,— seem pretty pretty relaxed about this to be fair, they do seem to be this to be fair, they do seem to he hreehhg— this to be fair, they do seem to he hreehhg hh— this to be fair, they do seem to be treating it as— this to be fair, they do seem to be treating it as an— this to be fair, they do seem to be treating it as an isolated hohhehh. — be treating it as an isolated incident. the— be treating it as an isolated incident. the intention we do hoh— incident. the intention we do hoh hhow. — incident. the intention we do not know. but— incident. the intention we do not know. but one man has been erreeheh— not know. but one man has been erreeheh for. — not know. but one man has been arrested for. yeah,— not know. but one man has been arrested for. “hie" ciicg arrested for. yeah, absolutely. and the thing is , as well, the and the thing is, as well, the pubuc and the thing is, as well, the public can be forgiven. i think , darren, for being very on edge in this incidents like this. we all remember westminster all remember the westminster terror increasingly terror attack cars increasingly not just here in britain, but abroad as well. you've used as weapons . abroad as well. you've used as weapons. yeah, abroad as well. you've used as weapons . yeah, indeed. and we weapons. yeah, indeed. and we know— weapons. yeah, indeed. and we know hheh— weapons. yeah, indeed. and we know that from _ weapons. yeah, indeed. and we know that from from _ yeah, indeed. and we know that from from the westminster— know that from from the westminster attack back in 2017. it westminster attack back in 2017. h he— westminster attack back in 2017. h he why— westminster attack back in 2017. h he why wheh— westminster attack back in 2017. it is why when you— westminster attack back in 2017. it is why when you walk across hrhhgee— it is why when you walk across hrhegee ow— it is why when you walk across bridges now in— it is why when you walk across bridges now in central london, hhere— bridges now in central london, hhere ee— bridges now in central london, there are barricades, bollards. if there are barricades, bollards. h you— there are barricades, bollards. rr you hhe— there are barricades, bollards. rr you the so— there are barricades, bollards. if you like. so the cars cannot houhh— if you like. so the cars cannot rhouhh hhe— if you like. so the cars cannot mount the pavement to try and get mount the pavement to try and geh hho— mount the pavement to try and get into downing— mount the pavement to try and get into downing street. it's

eheerhy— get into downing street. it's eheerhy reehhy— get into downing street. it's clearly really quite difficult in clearly really quite difficult h hhe— clearly really quite difficult in the sense— clearly really quite difficult in the sense that there are so rhehy— in the sense that there are so many different— in the sense that there are so many different layers of eeeurhhy— many different layers of security motty i mean, there's an security motty i mean, there's eh hhhheh— security motty i mean, there's eh hhhheh r— security motty i mean, there's an initial i don't— security motty i mean, there's an initial i don't know whether you— an initial i don't know whether you eh— an initial i don't know whether you can see this— an initial i don't know whether you can see this in the picture. hhere-e— you can see this in the picture. there's-initial— you can see this in the picture. there's.initial.the- there's an initial on the right heee—hhe- there's an initial on the right hand—kind of- there's an initial on the right. hand—kind of almost hand side, those kind of almost crowe— hand side, those kind of almost crowd-barriers,- hand side, those kind of almost crowd-barriers, if- hand side, those kind of almost crowd barriers, if you crowd control barriers, if you hhe— crowd control barriers, if you he hhere— crowd control barriers, if you like. there are— crowd control barriers, if you like. there are-a- crowd control barriers, if you like. there are a constant like. there are now a constant greeehee here— like. there are now a constant presence here in— like. there are now a constant presence here in whitehall ouhehhe— presence here in whitehall outside downing street . so outside downing street. so you-e— outside downing street. so youe goh— outside downing street. so you've got that— outside downing street. so you've got that initially. then you-e— you've got that initially. then youe goh— you've got that initially. then youe goh e— you've got that initially. then you've got a second of black you've got a second set of black gehee— you've got a second set of black gehee, erhehher— you've got a second set of black gates, smaller black gates that ehehrehe— gates, smaller black gates that ehehrehe hhe — gates, smaller black gates that encircle the main— gates, smaller black gates that encircle the main gate. now to hh— encircle the main gate. now to hh ehoeere— encircle the main gate. now to me, it appears that he's managed lne, it appears that he's managed to me, it appears that he's managed ho-hhrough— me, it appears that he's managed ho-hhrough or— me, it appears that he's managed to .through or she— me, it appears that he's managed to through or she do, to get through or she do, i ehouhh— to get through or she do, i ehouhh eey— to get through or she do, i should say we— to get through or she do, i should say we do not know who the should say we do not know who hhe hereon— should say we do not know who hhe hereoh he— should say we do not know who the person is managed to get hhrough—hoh- the person is managed to get through—not to. the person is managed to geti through—not to two through one of or if not to two of through one of or if not to two or hhoee— through one of or if not to two of those initial— through one of or if not to two of those initial gates. but eheerhy— of those initial gates. but clearly have— of those initial gates. but clearly have not got through the hheh— clearly have not got through the gehe— clearly have not got through the main gate itself— clearly have not got through the main gate itself that those gehee— main gate itself that those gehee ee— main gate itself that those gates are only— main gate itself that those gates are only there actually heuee— gates are only there actually heuee or— gates are only there actually because of a— gates are only there actually because of a previous terrorist hhreeh— because of a previous terrorist hhreeh .— because of a previous terrorist hhreeh . hhey— because of a previous terrorist threat . they were _ because of a previous terrorist threat . they were introduced in threat. they were introduced in the threat. they were introduced in hhe eerhy— threat. they were introduced in the early 1980s— threat. they were introduced in the early 1980s due to the hhreeh— the early 1980s due to the threat posed _ the early 1980s due to the threat posed by the ira . i the early 1980s due to the threat posed by the ira. i mean, you know,— threat posed by the ira. i mean, you know, for— threat posed by the ira. i mean, you know, for older— threat posed by the ira. i mean, you know, for older viewers , you know, for older viewers, hhey— you know, for older viewers, hhey hey— you know, for older viewers, hhey hey wehh— you know, for older viewers, they may well remember that back in they may well remember that back h hhe— they may well remember that back he hhe roe— they may well remember that back he hhe roe ehh— they may well remember that back in the 70s and before you could wehh— in the 70s and before you could wehh howe— in the 70s and before you could walk down downing street, just like walk down downing street, just hhhe-ohher— walk down downing street, just like-other street— walk down downing street, just like other street in london, like any other street in london, it like any other street in london, hh he— like any other street in london, hh he onhy— like any other street in london, hh he ohhy, ee— like any other street in london, hh he ohhy, ee r— like any other street in london, it is only, as i say,— like any other street in london, it is only, as i say, in relatively— it is only, as i say, in relatively recent years that

eeeurhhy— relatively recent years that eeeurhhy oh — relatively recent years that security on surprisingly has got hhghher— security on surprisingly has got hhghher ehh— security on surprisingly has got tighter and tighter and tighter. we tighter and tighter and tighter. we to— tighter and tighter and tighter. we to hoh— tighter and tighter and tighter. we do not know— tighter and tighter and tighter. we do not know the intention hehhh— we do not know the intention hehhh hhre— we do not know the intention behind this, but— we do not know the intention behind this, but what i would say— behind this, but what i would eey he— behind this, but what i would eey he ehh— behind this, but what i would say is and the— behind this, but what i would say is and the police are moving eorhelhhe— say is and the police are moving eorhelhhe heee— say is and the police are moving some .the tape up— say is and the police are moving some the tape up around the some of the tape up around the theorem— some of the tape up around the hohhehh eh— some of the tape up around the incident at the— some of the tape up around the incident at the moment, some of the tape up around the incident at the moment , that incident at the moment, that hhre— incident at the moment, that he hoee— incident at the moment, that this does seem— incident at the moment, that this does seem like a very , very this does seem like a very, very heoheheh— this does seem like a very, very isolated incident— this does seem like a very, very isolated incident ,— this does seem like a very, very isolated incident , clearly isolated incident, clearly eeuehg— isolated incident, clearly causing major- isolated incident, clearly causing major disruption to one of causing major disruption to one or hhe— causing major disruption to one or hhe hereto— causing major disruption to one of the major routes in central hoheoh— of the major routes in central hohhoh eh— of the major routes in central hohhoh eh e— of the major routes in central london at a time— of the major routes in central london at a time in which we're eggroeehhg— london at a time in which we're eggroeehhg hueh— london at a time in which we're approaching rush hour. there are geohhe— approaching rush hour. there are some people gathered here, but as some people gathered here, but ee r— some people gathered here, but ee r eey,— some people gathered here, but ee r eey, hh— some people gathered here, but ee r eey, hh he— some people gathered here, but as i say, it is mainly bemused hourhehe— as i say, it is mainly bemused hourhehe ho— as i say, it is mainly bemused tourists to be— as i say, it is mainly bemused tourists to be frank. but it is a tourists to be frank. but it is e rehherh— tourists to be frank. but it is a reminder, i— tourists to be frank. but it is a reminder, i think we we've not seen an incident— a reminder, i think we we've not seen an incident like this for a humeru— seen an incident like this for a hurherh or— seen an incident like this for a number of years,— seen an incident like this for a number of years, actually, in hhe— number of years, actually, in hhe uh— number of years, actually, in hhe uh hheh— number of years, actually, in the uk that i— number of years, actually, in the uk that i can— number of years, actually, in the uk that i can think of at hhe— the uk that i can think of at hhe hoh— the uk that i can think of at hhe hoh or— the uk that i can think of at hhe hoh or my— the uk that i can think of at the top of my head. you the hhreehe— the top of my head. you the hhreehe ho— the top of my head. you the threats do remain on. the people do threats do remain on. the people to wehh— threats do remain on. the people to wehh ho— threats do remain on. the people do want to cause— threats do remain on. the people do want to cause damage. farage in do want to cause damage. farage h-hehhehh,— do want to cause damage. farage in-incident, at— do want to cause damage. farage in-incident, at least- do want to cause damage. farage in incident, at least we do want to cause damage. farage in sayncident, at least we do want to cause damage. farage in say thattnt, at least we do want to cause damage. farage in say that the at least we do want to cause damage. farage in say that the policet we do want to cause damage. farage in say that the police have can say that the police have eeeh— can say that the police have heehh whhh— can say that the police have dealt with it— can say that the police have dealt with it pretty quickly hheh— dealt with it pretty quickly hheh hhere— dealt with it pretty quickly that there have been injuries dealt with it pretty quickly thatthate have been injuries dealt with it pretty quickly that that one ve been injuries dealt with it pretty quickly that that one personi injuries dealt with it pretty quickly thatthat one person hasinjuries dealt with it pretty quickly thatthat one person has beenas and that one person has been erreeherh— and that one person has been arrested—been. arrested. and clearly been gueehhoheh— arrested. and clearly been questioned-out- arrested. and clearly been questioned out what arrested. and clearly been- questioned _out what the questioned to find out what the hhehhhoh— questioned to find out what the intention—been. questioned to find out what the intention—been .| intention may well have been. ehey. — intention may well have been. ehey. hook,— intention may well have been. okay. look, darren, thank you very— okay. look, darren, thank you very much. — okay. look, darren, thank you very much. please- okay. look, darren, thank you very much. ”hi: okay. look, darren, thank you very much. please stay where you are. that's darren mccaffrey as long as you're of course, long as you're safe. of course,

darren our darren mccaffrey there. our political at political editor who is at downing we are looking downing street as we are looking at your screen right at images on your screen right now, of a car now, ladies and gents, of a car driving having driven into driving in, having driven into the downing street . i'm the gates of downing street. i'm going now our going to bring in now our homeland editor, mark homeland security editor, mark whiteford. a mark. whilst whiteford. as a mark. whilst there no indication of any there is no indication of any kind of terror threat at the moment or this being any kind of terror the moment, terror attack at the moment, more follow. more details to follow. i think it's reminding ourselves, it's worth reminding ourselves, mark, and our viewers and our listeners exactly where listeners of exactly where the terror is in britain terror threat is at in britain at . yeah, well, the at the moment. yeah, well, the herror— at the moment. yeah, well, the herror hhreeh— at the moment. yeah, well, the terror threat has— at the moment. yeah, well, the terror threat has been- yeah, well, the terror threat has been reduced to substantial— terror threat has been reduced to substantial level. it was some months— to substantial level. it was some months ago, after having heee— some months ago, after having been eh— some months ago, after having been eh eewere— some months ago, after having been at severe for— some months ago, after having been at severe for a number of yeere— been at severe for a number of yeere ,— been at severe for a number of yeere , eegeehehhy— been at severe for a number of years , especially, of course, years, especially, of course, hurhg— years, especially, of course, eurhg how,— years, especially, of course, during 2017, in— years, especially, of course, during 2017, in which we saw rhe— during 2017, in which we saw over five major— during 2017, in which we saw over five major terrorist ehheehe— over five major terrorist ehheehe h— over five major terrorist attacks in the- over five major terrorist attacks in the same year, hehuhhg— attacks in the same year, including, of— attacks in the same year, including, of course , the including, of course, the westminster— including, of course, the westminster terrorist attack , westminster terrorist attack, whheh— westminster terrorist attack, whheh ueee— westminster terrorist attack, which used a— westminster terrorist attack, which used a vehicle in the hheh— which used a vehicle in the first instance— which used a vehicle in the first instance to— which used a vehicle in the first instance to plough into heeeehrhehe— first instance to plough into pedestrians on— first instance to plough into pedestrians on westminster hugge— pedestrians on westminster bridge before— pedestrians on westminster bridge before then smashing into that bridge before then smashing into hheh perhrheher— bridge before then smashing into

that perimeter wall around the reheee— that perimeter wall around the reheee or— that perimeter wall around the palace of westminster itself. ahe— palace of westminster itself. and before — palace of westminster itself. and before the— palace of westminster itself. and before the man inside that wehhehe— and before the man inside that wehhehe ,— and before the man inside that wehhehe , hhe— and before the man inside that vehicle , the terrorists, began vehicle, the terrorists, began a ehehhhg. — vehicle, the terrorists, began a ehehhhg. ahe— vehicle, the terrorists, began a stabbing. and of— vehicle, the terrorists, began a stabbing. and of course , stabbing. and of course, hhhhhg— stabbing. and of course, hhhhhg. rc— stabbing. and of course, killing. pc keith palmer. this herhheuher— killing. pc keith palmer. this particular incident is altogether- particular incident is altogether different from what we understand _ altogether different from what we understand .— altogether different from what we understand . there is no we understand. there is no hhheehhoh— we understand. there is no indication that— we understand. there is no indication that the suspect, who erreeheh— indication that the suspect, who was arrested by_ indication that the suspect, who was arrested by police on euehhehoh— was arrested by police on suspicion of— was arrested by police on suspicion of criminal damage, careless driving— suspicion of criminal damage, careless driving ,— suspicion of criminal damage, careless driving , was carrying careless driving, was carrying eny— careless driving, was carrying ehy hhe— careless driving, was carrying ehy hheh or— careless driving, was carrying ehy hheh or e— careless driving, was carrying any kind of a weapon. there is no indication— any kind of a weapon. there is no indication of— any kind of a weapon. there is no indication of that. armed gehee— no indication of that. armed hohhee, or— no indication of that. armed police, of course— no indication of that. armed police, of course , were on scene police, of course, were on scene heeuee— police, of course, were on scene heuee hhey— police, of course, were on scene heuee hhey ee— police, of course, were on scene because they are anyway downing ehreeh— because they are anyway downing ehreeh .— because they are anyway downing shreeh. rh-e— because they are anyway downing street . it's one— because they are anyway downing street . it's one of— because they are anyway downing street . it's one of the key street. it's one of the key eehehhwe— street. it's one of the key sensitive buildings in central hohhoh.— sensitive buildings in central london. there— sensitive buildings in central london. there are vehicle hhhhgehhoh— london. there are vehicle mitigation barriers all around hheh— mitigation barriers all around hheh eree— mitigation barriers all around hheh ee— mitigation barriers all around that area, as darren was heeerhhhg— that area, as darren was describing in— that area, as darren was describing in his last answers to describing in his last answers ho you— describing in his last answers ho you .— describing in his last answers ho you . aho— describing in his last answers ho you . who, you— describing in his last answers to you . and, you know, getting to you. and, you know, getting hhrough— to you. and, you know, getting hhrough one— to you. and, you know, getting through one particular vehicle

herrher— through one particular vehicle barrier there— through one particular vehicle barrier there met— through one particular vehicle barrier there met with another herger— barrier there met with another larger barrier— barrier there met with another larger barrier on _ barrier there met with another larger barrier on the other ehhe. — larger barrier on the other ehhe. huh— larger barrier on the other ehhe. huh r— larger barrier on the other side. but i should say the indications— side. but i should say the indications .— side. but i should say the indications . this time is that indications. this time is that at indications. this time is that eh hhe— indications. this time is that at the moment— indications. this time is that at the moment this is not being hreeheh— at the moment this is not being hreeheh ee— at the moment this is not being hreeheh ee e— at the moment this is not being treated as a terrorist incident. it treated as a terrorist incident. rh he— treated as a terrorist incident. rh he oehg— treated as a terrorist incident. it is being treated as a deliberate— it is being treated as a deliberate act at this stage. huh— deliberate act at this stage. huh we— deliberate act at this stage. huh we ee— deliberate act at this stage. but we are in— deliberate act at this stage. but we are in the very early ehegee— but we are in the very early ehegee or— but we are in the very early stages of this. _ but we are in the very early stages of this. we're still in hhe— stages of this. we're still in the assessment— stages of this. we're still in the assessment phase and the eouherh— the assessment phase and the counter terrorism _ the assessment phase and the counter terrorism command at seohhehh— counter terrorism command at scotland yard— counter terrorism command at scotland yard is,— counter terrorism command at scotland yard is, of course, as you— scotland yard is, of course, as you wouhh— scotland yard is, of course, as you would expect— scotland yard is, of course, as you would expect at scoping this out,— you would expect at scoping this out, overseeing— you would expect at scoping this out, overseeing the— you would expect at scoping this out, overseeing the early stages of hhre— out, overseeing the early stages of this investigation to determine— of this investigation to determine whether they should get determine whether they should geh hwohweh. — determine whether they should get involved. but— determine whether they should get involved. but no indication at get involved. but no indication eh ehh— get involved. but no indication eh ehh hheh— get involved. but no indication at all that they— get involved. but no indication at all that they are treating hhre— at all that they are treating hhhe ee— at all that they are treating hhhe ee e— at all that they are treating this as a terrorist incident at hhre— this as a terrorist incident at he ehege. — this as a terrorist incident at this stage. now— this as a terrorist incident at this stage. now _ this as a terrorist incident at this stage. now you this as a terrorist incident at this stage. now mu this stage. now now, mark, i'm just going to. yeah i'm just going to cut in because what we're looking at on the screen here for anyone who's just joining is a small what joining us, is a small what appears to a silver or white appears to be a silver or white hatchback, having rammed into

the gates of downing street in london with a police cordon in place and police officers. now, that car having been stood on its own there for quite a while after one man was arrested . after one man was arrested. police officers now approaching that vehicle. the doors being opened. that vehicle. the doors being opened . they're having a very, opened. they're having a very, very look around. darren very good look around. darren mccaffrey, political editor, mccaffrey, our political editor, was on the scene a moment ago and were discussing and we were both discussing about that it appears about the fact that it appears to quite unusual there to be quite unusual that there aren't well, far as we to be quite unusual that there arertell well, far as we to be quite unusual that there arertell anyway, far as we to be quite unusual that there arertell anyway, bomb as we to be quite unusual that there arertell anyway, bomb disposal can tell anyway, bomb disposal experts, etcetera . it is experts, etcetera. it is understood, by the they understood, by the way, as they open of this car. now open the boot of this car. now that was in that rishi sunak was working in number the time, we await number 10 at the time, we await confirmation on that. there confirmation on that. and there was convoy of cars. this is was a convoy of cars. this is according to reports and people on scene that were seen on the scene that were seen leaving the other of leaving the other entrance of downing which might downing street, which might imply imply. i want to imply might imply. i want to emphasise that because it's a moving rishi sunak moving picture that rishi sunak was evacuated in the aftermath of this incident. i'm going to talk over these images now for you because if you're listening on radio, i you to see what on radio, i want you to see what i'm in a we've got i'm seeing in a way, we've got the hatchback now and the hatchback open now and police officers gloves

police officers wearing gloves and advising. they've got plastic bags in their hands and they are taking things of they are taking things out of they are taking things out of the i back to the boot. can i go back to darren mccaffrey, who is on the scene and possibly has a first hand view this situation for hand view of this situation for us , political editor us now, our political editor darren mccaffrey is unavailable for us. that's fine. i can talk you through it. the police are in boot this particular in the boot of this particular car now. the cordon is still around and downing street at the moment. so ordinary members of the public will not be able to access that area. it's not the largest cordon in the world. confusion still reigning . i'm confusion is still reigning. i'm just get confirmation just going to get confirmation that can now go darren that we can now go to darren mccaffrey , our political editor, mccaffrey, our political editor, who is at the scene in westminster on downing street. darren, thank you very much. now, what can you will now, what i can see you will have look at it than me have a closer look at it than me is officers. now is police officers. now appearing to take things out of the car ? yeah, the boot of this car? yeah, indeed. and as— the boot of this car? yeah, indeed. and as you- rtr:7 yeah, indeed. and as you can rt.3h”7 yeah, indeed. and as you can see, hhey-we— indeed. and as you can see, hhey-we goh— indeed. and as you can see, they've got gloves on, protective— they've got gloves on, protective gloves, if you like. cheerhy— protective gloves, if you like. cheerhy hheh— protective gloves, if you like. clearly that will— protective gloves, if you like. clearly that will be for ewhehee — clearly that will be for evidence gathering reasons . as evidence gathering reasons. as i euggeeheh—

evidence gathering reasons. as i suggested earlier— evidence gathering reasons. as i suggested earlier on the boot hee— suggested earlier on the boot hee heee— suggested earlier on the boot had been opened before . the had been opened before. the hohhee— had been opened before. the gohhee hewe— had been opened before. the police have clearly searched it before,— police have clearly searched it before huh— police have clearly searched it before, but they— police have clearly searched it before, but they are going hhrough— before, but they are going hhrough hh— before, but they are going through it again just to let you know,— through it again just to let you know-know— through it again just to let you know,_know if- through it again just to let you know,_know if joe- through it again just to let you know, know if joe can know, i don't know if joe can hohehhhehhy— know, i don't know if joe can potentially swing the camera erouhh— potentially swing the camera around. actually, to your right, joe,— around. actually, to your right, roe, tueh— around. actually, to your right, roe, tueh ho— around. actually, to your right, joe, just to show— around. actually, to your right, joe, just to show the road. and hhe— joe, just to show the road. and hhe reeeoh— joe, just to show the road. and hhe r— joe, just to show the road. and the reason i say— joe, just to show the road. and the reason i say that is because i the reason i say that is because rhhhh— the reason i say that is because rhhhh hhe— the reason i say that is because i think the police— the reason i say that is because i think the police are just ehouh— i think the police are just about-reopen- i think the police are just about reopen the i think the police are just- aboutlreopen the-here in about to reopen the road here in whhhehehh.— about to reopen the road here in whitehall. - people - about to reopen the road here in whitehall. people have whitehall. and people have gehhererh— whitehall. and people have gathered. you'll able see gathered. you'll be able to see in gathered. you'll be able to see h—or- gathered. you'll be able to see h—or wewl gathered. you'll be able to see. in _of view what in a second to kind of view what hee— in a second to kind of view what hee-here. — in a second to kind of view what has-here. clearly- in a second to kind of view what has here. clearly people has gone on here. clearly people whhh— has gone on here. clearly people whhh he— has gone on here. clearly people will be intrigued— has gone on here. clearly people will be intrigued by the fact hheh— will be intrigued by the fact hheh hhre— will be intrigued by the fact hheh he he— will be intrigued by the fact that this is a— will be intrigued by the fact that this is a major news story at that this is a major news story eh heeeh. — that this is a major news story eh heeeh. huh— that this is a major news story at least. but the— that this is a major news story at least. but the police, i hhhh— at least. but the police, i hhhh ee— at least. but the police, i think, are about to start eheerhg— think, are about to start clearing people the road clearing people off the road heuee— clearing people off the road- because—reopen because they're going to reopen to because they're going to reopen ho—hhe— because they're going to reopen ho—hhe reeeoh- to traffic. and the reason i ehhheehee— to traffic. and the reason i emphasise that, patrick, is just a emphasise that, patrick, is just e—hheh- emphasise that, patrick, is justi e—hheh-how a reminder here that given how ehoee— a reminder here that given how ehoee we— a reminder here that given how close we frankly— a reminder here that given how close we frankly are to the gehee— close we frankly are to the gehee or— close we frankly are to the gates of downing street, that hhre— gates of downing street, that hhhe-hoh— gates of downing street, that this-not-treated- gates of downing street, that. this-not-treatediany this has not been treated as any hhe— this has not been treated as any hheh—hhreeh- this has not been treated as any kind—threat to- this has not been treated as any kind _threat to the. kind of imminent threat to the truths— kind of imminent threat to the public,-clearly_ kind of imminent threat to the public,-clearly is- kind of imminent threat to the public, clearly is an public, that clearly is an heoheheh— public, that clearly is an isolated incident whatever isolated incident for whatever eeeohrh—hehl reason, someone has driven hehhherehehy— reason, someone has driven deliberately, it— reason, someone has driven deliberately, it seems, into the gehee— deliberately, it seems, into the gehee or— deliberately, it seems, into the gates of downing— deliberately, it seems, into the gates of downing street. they've deliberately, it seems, into the gates of [to dning street. they've deliberately, it seems, into the gates of [to penetrate at. they've deliberately, it seems, into the gates of [to penetrate it,they've deliberately, it seems, into the gates of [to penetrate it, at ay've managed to penetrate it, at heeeh— managed to penetrate it, at heeeh one— managed to penetrate it, at least one of— managed to penetrate it, at least one of those gates, but eheerhy— least one of those gates, but eheerhy hewe— least one of those gates, but clearly have stopped from clearly have been stopped from eehuehhy— clearly have been stopped from eehuehhy-ohho- clearly have been stopped from actually onto street actually getting onto the street hheehh— actually getting onto the street hheehh-hhe— actually getting onto the street itself. .the police - actually getting onto the street itself. the police have itself. but the police have judged— itself. but the police have tuggee grehhy— itself. but the police have judged pretty quickly, given the fact judged pretty quickly, given the

tech-hehhehe- judged pretty quickly, given the fact happens, what, fact that this happens, what, heee— fact that this happens, what, heee hheh— fact that this happens, what, less than an _ fact that this happens, what, less than an hour it less than an hour ago it heggeheh— less than an hour ago it heggehee eh— less than an hour ago it happened at 4:20 pm. this erherhooh— happened at 4:20 pm. this afternoon, that— happened at 4:20 pm. this afternoon, that they have heeuee— afternoon, that they have decided that— afternoon, that they have decided that that is not an decided that that it is not an hhrhehhehe— decided that that it is not an immediate imminent decided that that it is not an immediate-imminent to decided that that it is not an imnpublic. .imminent to decided that that it is not an imnpublic. they minent to decided that that it is not an imnpublic. they are ent to decided that that it is not an imnpublic. they are going to the public. they are going hhrough— the public. they are going hhrough hhe— the public. they are going through the boot of that car. huh— through the boot of that car. huh rye— through the boot of that car. but i've seen— through the boot of that car. but i've seen people being eeeorheh— but i've seen people being escorted downing street by escorted into downing street by so escorted into downing street by eo eheerhy— escorted into downing street by eo eheerhy ,— escorted into downing street by eo eheerhy , ae— escorted into downing street by eo eheerhy , we r— escorted into downing street by so clearly , as i say, again, so clearly, as i say, again, the— so clearly, as i say, again, the e— so clearly, as i say, again, it's a reminder,- so clearly, as i say, again, it's a reminder, it's an it's a reminder, it's not an hhrhhehh— it's a reminder, it's not an hhreeh-.- it's a reminder, it's not an hhrhhehh-. - it's a reminder, it's not ani imminent-. darren, it's a reminder, it's not an- imminent-. darren, thank imminent threat. darren, thank you very much for that. i'm going back now to mark white, our homeland security editor. and mark, the information that i have here is that you might have seen additional footage seen some additional footage than what has been published up to date. what is the latest, mark? our home security editor. yeah, i've just seen some images hheh— yeah, i've just seen some images hheh hook— yeah, i've just seen some images hheh hooh hhe— yeah, i've just seen some images that look like they've been heheh— that look like they've been heheh hoh — that look like they've been taken from a— that look like they've been taken from a street camera or a cerv— taken from a street camera or a my hype— taken from a street camera or a cctv type camera— taken from a street camera or a cctv type camera at the bottom ehh— cctv type camera at the bottom end or— cctv type camera at the bottom end of whitehall,— cctv type camera at the bottom end of whitehall, looking up whhhehehh— end of whitehall, looking up whitehall past— end of whitehall, looking up whitehall past at the cenotaph hhere— whitehall past at the cenotaph there towards— whitehall past at the cenotaph there towards downing street . there towards downing street. ahe— there towards downing street. who you— there towards downing street. who you eee— there towards downing street. and you see this— there towards downing street. and you see this silver car just eroeehg— and you see this silver car just eroeehg h— and you see this silver car just crossing in front— and you see this silver car just crossing in front of— and you see this silver car just crossing in front of the eehohehh — crossing in front of the cenotaph or-

crossing in front of the cenotaph or behind the cenotaph. as cenotaph or behind the cenotaph. ae rh— cenotaph or behind the cenotaph. we the hoohhg— cenotaph or behind the cenotaph. as i'm looking at— cenotaph or behind the cenotaph. as i'm looking at the shot . and as i'm looking at the shot. and it's as i'm looking at the shot. and the gohg— as i'm looking at the shot. and the gohg very— as i'm looking at the shot. and it's going very slowly and it hooke— it's going very slowly and it looks almost— it's going very slowly and it looks almost as— it's going very slowly and it looks almost as if it either hhe— looks almost as if it either hhhe hhe— looks almost as if it either hits the brake _ looks almost as if it either hits the brake us or stalls a hhhhhe— hits the brake us or stalls a hhhhhe hh— hits the brake us or stalls a little bit and— hits the brake us or stalls a little bit and then continues on rhghh— little bit and then continues on rhghh ho— little bit and then continues on rhghh ho hhe— little bit and then continues on right to the gates. _ little bit and then continues on right to the gates. but it hoeeh-h— right to the gates. but it doesn't look— right to the gates. but it doesn't look as though it's going— doesn't look as though it's gohg ehy— doesn't look as though it's going any faster than about 3 or 4 going any faster than about 3 or e hhhee— going any faster than about 3 or e hhhee eh— going any faster than about 3 or 4 miles an hour.— going any faster than about 3 or 4 miles an hour. very slow heeeh,— 4 miles an hour. very slow indeed, which— 4 miles an hour. very slow indeed, which would probably eehheh— indeed, which would probably eopheh why— indeed, which would probably explain why this— indeed, which would probably explain why this vehicle doesn't hook— explain why this vehicle doesn't hooh eehegeh— explain why this vehicle doesn't look damaged as— explain why this vehicle doesn't look damaged as these police ohheere— look damaged as these police officers continue— look damaged as these police officers continue that search. how— officers continue that search. how or— officers continue that search. how or hhe — officers continue that search. now of the back— officers continue that search. now of the back of the vehicle. wheh— now of the back of the vehicle. wheh heggehehh— now of the back of the vehicle. what happened, patrick, was understandably— what happened, patrick, was understandably the driver was erreeheh— understandably the driver was erreeheh hy— understandably the driver was arrested by armed police there e very— arrested by armed police there e wery guheh— arrested by armed police there was a very quick search that hook— was a very quick search that hooh hheee— was a very quick search that took place of— was a very quick search that took place of that vehicle , as took place of that vehicle, as you— took place of that vehicle, as you wouhh— took place of that vehicle, as you would imagine, because the very— you would imagine, because the very hheh— you would imagine, because the very first concern— you would imagine, because the very first concern that's upperhoeh— very first concern that's uppermost in- very first concern that's uppermost in their mind is the ooeehhhhhhy— uppermost in their mind is the possibility motty_ uppermost in their mind is the possibility motty of an ied, an hhhroweeh— possibility motty of an ied, an improvised explosive device in the improvised explosive device in hhe wehhehe— improvised explosive device in hhe wehhehe .— improvised explosive device in the vehicle . so— improvised explosive device in the vehicle . so they carried out the vehicle. so they carried out a the vehicle. so they carried out e very— the vehicle. so they carried out e wery guheh— the vehicle. so they carried out a very quick cursory search,

hheh-h— a very quick cursory search, hheh-h rhe— a very quick cursory search, didn't find anything like that. so didn't find anything like that. so wheh— didn't find anything like that. so what you're— didn't find anything like that. so what you're seeing now is not a so what you're seeing now is not e eeeh— so what you're seeing now is not a search looking— so what you're seeing now is not a search looking for— so what you're seeing now is not a search looking for any eoghoewe— a search looking for any explosive device . acas this is explosive device. acas this is an evidential— explosive device. acas this is an evidential search looking for ehyhhhg— an evidential search looking for ehyhhhg hheh— an evidential search looking for anything that might be linked to the individual— anything that might be linked to the individual who's been erreehee— the individual who's been arrested that— the individual who's been arrested that might be pertinent to arrested that might be pertinent ho hhe— arrested that might be pertinent ho hhe ohgohg— arrested that might be pertinent to the ongoing inquiry. “his to the ongoing inquiry. yes, thew.— to the ongoing inquiry. yes, werh hhehh— to the ongoing inquiry. yes, mark, thank you _ to the ongoing inquiry. yes, mark, thank you very- to the ongoing inquiry. yes, mark, thank you very much for that. we're going to stay on these images. as for you from outside downing street, as mark white was saying there, it would appear that the police are relatively confident that there is no immediate threat of an explosion. that, of course, in light of previous attacks and previous incidents that we have seen, especially around the westminster area, especially around street area, around the downing street area, that suspect would have been that i suspect would have been most immediate concern. most people's immediate concern. and what mark is saying that he's seen there is cctv footage of the car driving very slowly, but deliberately towards the gates of downing street, which might explain why the car isn't particularly damaged. and a lot

of people will be wondering what on really gone on. on earth has really gone on. just to summarise for you , just to summarise for you, everybody who's and everybody who's watching and listening at home, one man has or we believe it's been a man actually one man has been arrested after a car has been driven. it would appear, deliberately into to the gates of downing street. i am going to go now to chris phillips , i go now to chris phillips, i believe, who is the former head of national counter terrorism. thank you very much , chris. thank you very much, chris. chris, what do you make of this ? well, i mean, it looks like an individual has crashed his car, albeit very slowly . and of albeit very slowly. and of course, the police- c rig and of course, the police have c rtg and of course, the police have to c [in and of course, the police have to treat any— course, the police have to treat ehy hohhehh— course, the police have to treat any incident like— course, the police have to treat any incident like this as though it any incident like this as though hh he— any incident like this as though hh he hhe— any incident like this as though it is the worst— any incident like this as though it is the worst case scenario . it is the worst case scenario. so it is the worst case scenario. so hhey— it is the worst case scenario. so hhey whhh— it is the worst case scenario. so they will have— it is the worst case scenario. so they will have treated it as a terrorist attack. and let's be guhhe— a terrorist attack. and let's be guhhe hoheeh— a terrorist attack. and let's be guhhe hoheeh ,— a terrorist attack. and let's be quite honest , this— t and let's be quite honest , this location and quite honest, this location and the quite honest, this location and hhe ohher— quite honest, this location and the other locations in the hhrhehhehe— the other locations in the immediate vicinity have been ehheeheh— immediate vicinity have been ehheeheh oh— immediate vicinity have been attacked on numerous occasions . attacked on numerous occasions. so attacked on numerous occasions. so hhey— attacked on numerous occasions. so hhey wouhu — attacked on numerous occasions. so they would not— attacked on numerous occasions. so they would not be— attacked on numerous occasions. so they would not be taking- attacked on numerous occasions. so they would not be taking any chances with this person . but i

chances with this person. but i can assure you that no vehicle is going to crash through those gates and get up to downing street. the gates are extremely wehh— street. the gates are extremely wehh hhey-we— street. the gates are extremely wehh hhey-we goh— the gates are extremely well. they've got hostile wehhehe— well. they've got hostile vehicle mitigation measures whheh— vehicle mitigation measures which would— vehicle mitigation measures which would prevent any vehicle hoh— which would prevent any vehicle from oehg— which would prevent any vehicle from being able— which would prevent any vehicle from being able to— which would prevent any vehicle from being able to get access . from being able to get access. ohey. — from being able to get access. ohey. ehhe.— from being able to get access. okay. chris, can— from being able to get access. okay. chris, can i— from being able to get access. okay. chris, can i just- from being able to get access. okay. chris, can i just ask- from being able to get access. okay. chris, can i just ask you, it is unclear at the moment whether or not rishi sunak was there at the time. can you talk me through, please? what the protocol procedure would protocol and procedure would have been for our prime minister had he been there at downing street and the information came to you that a car has approached the gates and driven into them? well are there downing street and the cabinet office and is all a rabbit warren actually of underground passageways and things. so there's all sorts of or— things. so there's all sorts of means of escape— gt: so there's all sorts of means of escape and safe trigtfr so there's all sorts of means of escape and safe rooms for eyohe— means of escape and safe rooms for eyohe ,— means of escape and safe rooms for eyohe , ohe— means of escape and safe rooms for anyone , one of— means of escape and safe rooms for anyone , one of any vip . so for anyone, one of any vip. so here— for anyone, one of any vip. so hhere wouhh— for anyone, one of any vip. so there would certainly be lots of oggorhuhhhy— there would certainly be lots of opporhuhhhy ho— there would certainly be lots of opportunity to make sure that hhey— opportunity to make sure that hhey ee— opportunity to make sure that hhey hehh— opportunity to make sure that they are kept safe. i think it was mentioned— they are kept safe. i think it was mentioned by mark earlier

hheh— was mentioned by mark earlier hheh h— was mentioned by mark earlier hheh h reeh— was mentioned by mark earlier that in fact the— was mentioned by mark earlier that in fact the ira have tried to that in fact the ira have tried ho heuheh— that in fact the ira have tried to launch mortars— that in fact the ira have tried to launch mortars into the gehee.— to launch mortars into the gereeh eo— to launch mortars into the gereeh. so you— to launch mortars into the garden. so you know, government and garden. so you know, government ehe hhe— garden. so you know, government ehe hhe hohee— garden. so you know, government and the police know that this is and the police know that this is e hhghhy— and the police know that this is a highly attractive— and the police know that this is a highly attractive location for herrorhehe— a highly attractive location for terrorists and _ a highly attractive location for terrorists and measures have heee— terrorists and measures have been heheh— terrorists and measures have been heheh ho— terrorists and measures have been taken to prevent vehicles hoh— been taken to prevent vehicles from hehg— been taken to prevent vehicles from being able— been taken to prevent vehicles from being able to crash into hhe— from being able to crash into the buildings— from being able to crash into the buildings there. 'tri from being able to crash into the buildings there. ' tri the buildings there. and those gehee— the buildings there. and those gehee hh— the buildings there. and those gates in particular are very, very sturdy, very strong , with very sturdy, very strong, with huge hostile vehicle mitigation measures. and to all intents and gurgoeee— measures. and to all intents and ourhoeee e— measures. and to all intents and purposes, a vehicle— its; and to all intents and purposes, a vehicle wouldn't be ehhe— purposes, a vehicle wouldn't be ehhe ho— purposes, a vehicle wouldn't be ehhe ho ho— purposes, a vehicle wouldn't be ehhe ho to e— purposes, a vehicle wouldn't be able to do a huge— purposes, a vehicle wouldn't be able to do a huge amount of eehege— able to do a huge amount of eehege ho— able to do a huge amount of eehege ho geh— able to do a huge amount of damage to get through that. but, of damage to get through that. but, oh hhey— damage to get through that. but, of course, they can't take any rhehe. — of course, they can't take any rhehe. who — of course, they can't take any risks. and this— of course, they can't take any risks. and this could have been an individual— risks. and this could have been an individual could an individual with a gun, could hewe—ehh- an individual with a gun, could hewe—ehe ruh- an individual with a gun, could have and run amok an individual with a gun, could. have—and run amok , have jumped out and run amok, eheehere. — have jumped out and run amok, eheehere. aru— have jumped out and run amok, etcetera. and that's- have jumped out and run amok, etcetera. ' tri have jumped out and run amok, etcetera. tri etcetera. and that's why the police officers with submachine guns are there. and that's the eorh— guns are there. and that's the eorh or— guns are there. and that's the sort of threat— guns are there. and that's the sort of threat that— rig t”rt; ”rt; and that's the sort of threat that they are. hhere — sort of threat that they are. hhere ho — sort of threat that they are. there to deal— sort of threat that they are. there to deal with. so it looks as there to deal with. so it looks ee hhough— there to deal with. so it looks as though this— there to deal with. so it looks as though this person, you know, was was not doing— as though this person, you know, was was not doing a very good job was was not doing a very good hot or— was was not doing a very good job of attacking— was was not doing a very good job of attacking the gates. but h— job of attacking the gates. but h he— job of attacking the gates. but even if he had,— job of attacking the gates. but even if he had, i— job of attacking the gates. but even if he had, i think the gehee— even if he had, i think the gehee wouhh— even if he had, i think the gates would have been would have ehooh— gates would have been would have ehooh uh— gates would have been would have ehooh uh ho— gates would have been would have ehooh uh ho hhe— gates would have been would have stood up to the attack . \riif.ii"

stood up to the attack. now, ehhe.— stood up to the attack. now, chrhe. we— stood up to the attack. now, chris, we know— stood up to the attack. now, chris, we know that they're searching the car. there does not appear to be a bomb disposal unit there at the moment . so unit there at the moment. so what will they be searching that car for ? for well, i mean , the car for? for well, i mean, the hohwe— car for? for well, i mean, the hohwe he— car for? for well, i mean, the motive is everything- rt.t” rtr”7 well, i mean, the motive is everything in this. rt.t” "rte”7 well, i mean, the motive is everything in this. of course , anyone— motive is everything in this. of course , anyone can drive their course, anyone can drive their uh.— course, anyone can drive their uh. hhe— course, anyone can drive their up. the hheh— course, anyone can drive their car up. the main road there, up hhe— car up. the main road there, up hhe uh— car up. the main road there, up hhe uh hheh— car up. the main road there, up the up that road— car up. the main road there, up the up that road and turn left ehh— the up that road and turn left end hry— the up that road and turn left end hry ho— the up that road and turn left and try to make— the up that road and turn left and try to make a fool of themselves— and try to make a fool of themselves or— and try to make a fool of themselves or make themselves roue— themselves or make themselves roue hy— themselves or make themselves famous by crashing into the gehee.— famous by crashing into the gehee. rh-e— famous by crashing into the gates. it's not— famous by crashing into the gates. it's not a— famous by crashing into the gates. it's not a difficult hhhg— gates. it's not a difficult hhhg ho— gates. it's not a difficult hhhhg ho ho.— gates. it's not a difficult thing to do. the most difficult hhhg— thing to do. the most difficult hhhg he— thing to do. the most difficult hhhg he ho— thing to do. the most difficult hhhhg he ho geh— thing to do. the most difficult thing is to get through the gehee— thing is to get through the gehee ehh— thing is to get through the gates and attack the ten downing ehreeh— gates and attack the ten downing ehreeh hheehh — gates and attack the ten downing street itself. so— gates and attack the ten downing street itself. so what they're hoohhg— street itself. so what they're hoohhg hor— street itself. so what they're looking for is— street itself. so what they're looking for is some grounds for a looking for is some grounds for e hohwe— looking for is some grounds for e hohwe ee— looking for is some grounds for a motive as to— looking for is some grounds for a motive as to what this man was all a motive as to what this man was ehh ehouh— a motive as to what this man was ehh ehouh ,— a motive as to what this man was all about, what— a motive as to what this man was all about, what why— a motive as to what this man was all about, what why he was doing it all about, what why he was doing hh ehh— all about, what why he was doing hh ehe wheh— all about, what why he was doing it and what what— all about, what why he was doing it and what what this whole hoheeh— it and what what this whole hoheehh he— it and what what this whole incident is about. but it does go ho— incident is about. but it does go ho ehow— incident is about. but it does go to show that,— incident is about. but it does go to show that, you know, we eeh-h— go to show that, you know, we eeh-h he — go to show that, you know, we can't be relaxed— go to show that, you know, we can't be relaxed about the hhreeh— can't be relaxed about the hhreeh or— can't be relaxed about the threat of not— can't be relaxed about the threat of not only terrorists , threat of not only terrorists, huh— threat of not only terrorists, but individuals— threat of not only terrorists, but individuals that might have a but individuals that might have e grudge— but individuals that might have e gruege or— but individuals that might have a grudge or might want to do hehege— a grudge or might want to do some damage in— a grudge or might want to do some damage in this way.

a grudge or might want to do some damage in this way . yeah some damage in this way. yeah aru— some damage in this way. yeah who ehhe.— some damage in this way. yeah and chris, look,— some damage in this way. yeah and chris, look, a— some damage in this way. yeah and chris, look, a lot— some damage in this way. yeah and chris, look, a lot of- some damage in this way. yeah and chris, look, a lot of people will be thinking now our terror threat at the moment is substantial. are we likely to see this rise if indeed it does emerge that this is a terror attack ? well if it's a terror attack? well if it's a terror attack? well if it's a terror attack , a very poor one, to be attack, a very poor one, to be quite honest. if it is a herrorheh— quite honest. if it is a terrorist attack- ri if it is a terrorist attack and there are hhere-e— terrorist attack and there are hhere-e eoe— terrorist attack and there are there's some reason to think hheh— there's some reason to think hheh hhere— there's some reason to think that there are _ there's some reason to think that there are other people out here— that there are other people out hhere hheh— that there are other people out there that might— that there are other people out there that might be involved in hhre— there that might be involved in he. hheh— there that might be involved in he. hheh or— there that might be involved in this. then, of course , the this. then, of course, the herrorheh— this. then, of course, the terrorist threat - this. then, of course, the terrorist threat level may go up . i terrorist threat level may go up . r hhhh— terrorist threat level may go up . i think from _ terrorist threat level may go up . i think from what i've seen at hhe— . i think from what i've seen at hhe eee— . i think from what i've seen at the scene and— . i think from what i've seen at the scene and the— . i think from what i've seen at the scene and the way the police are the scene and the way the police heehhg— the scene and the way the police are dealing with— the scene and the way the police are dealing with this, i don't hhhh— are dealing with this, i don't hhhh hheh-e— are dealing with this, i don't think that's going to be the r— think that's going to be the r-hhhe- think that's going to be the case. i-this is- think that's going to be the case. i this is probably case. i think this is probably going— case. i think this is probably going individual that's going to be an individual that's hheh-e— going to be an individual that's that's decided— going to be an individual that's that's decided to— going to be an individual that's that's decided to do something ehhhy— that's decided to do something ehhhy ehh— that's decided to do something ehhhy ehe hee— that's decided to do something silly and has not— that's decided to do something silly and has not been very successful— silly and has not been very successful for— silly and has not been very successful for me . “rt;t“ successful for me. yeah, just tueh— successful for me. yeah, just just hold it there for me, chris. and i'm going to get you. i'm hoping that you might be able to see our output at the moment. if not, i will talk viewers through it anyway, but we're play now . now we're going to play you now. now live. not live footage

live. sorry, not live footage indeed of the car driving into to the gates of downing street. so this was roughly speaking, half an hour ago. now maybe a little bit longer ago. and this car driving very slowly, but it would appear deliberately arnie into the gates of downing street and look, chris, what do you make of that? when you look at this footage, as you've just said to me, there, you think that if indeed it some kind that if indeed it is some kind of terror attack, it's an incredibly i mean, it incredibly poor one. i mean, it just seem a little bit bizarre, doesn't it looks like doesn't it? yeah, it looks like someone didn't to someone that didn't want to damage terrorist damage his car in a terrorist attack, which which is probably not very likely . i attack, which which is probably not very likely. i mean, terrorists— not very likely. i mean, terrorists tend - not very likely. i mean, terrorists tend to - will c i mean, terrorists tend to want to go ouh— terrorists tend to want to go ouh h— terrorists tend to want to go ouh h e— terrorists tend to want to go out in a smash— terrorists tend to want to go out in a smash bang and not only out in a smain bang and not only kill out in a smash bang and not only hhhh geothe— out in a smash bang and not only hhhh geohhe, huh— out in a smash bang and not only kill people, but write off their wehhehe— kill people, but write off their wehhehe ehh— kill people, but write off their vehicle and everything around it so vehicle and everything around it eo hh— vehicle and everything around it eo hh hoeeh-h— vehicle and everything around it so it doesn't look— vehicle and everything around it so it doesn't look to me like a herrorheh— so it doesn't look to me like a terrorist attack.— so it doesn't look to me like a terrorist attack. but of course, hheh-e— terrorist attack. but of course, hheh-e e— terrorist attack. but of course, that's a matter— terrorist attack. but of course, that's a matter for the police . that's a matter for the police. who— that's a matter for the police. who hhey-hh— that's a matter for the police. who hhey-hh he— that's a matter for the police. and they'll be investigating hhre— and they'll be investigating he. who— and they'll be investigating this. and the _ and they'll be investigating this. and the motives of this hereon— this. and the motives of this hereoh vou— this. and the motives of this person. you know, we've got an ewruh— person. you know, we've got an ewruh hoh— person. you know, we've got an ewruh hoh or— person. you know, we've got an awful lot of people out there hheh— awful lot of people out there hheh tueh— awful lot of people out there

that just want— awful lot of people out there that just want to _ awful lot of people out there that just want to get themselves on hhe— that just want to get themselves on hhe hehhy. — that just want to get themselves on the telly. and— that just want to get themselves on the telly. and may well on the telly. and that may well be on the telly. and that may well he-hehheheh— on the telly. and that may well be happened here. chris. be what's happened here. chris. vou— be what's happened here. chris. you know— be what's happened here. chris. you know, one— be what's happened here. chris. you know, one thing that stands out you know, one thing that stands ouh ho— you know, one thing that stands ouh ho rhe— you know, one thing that stands ouh ho he h— you know, one thing that stands out to me in all— you know, one thing that stands out to me in all of— you know, one thing that stands out to me in all of this, we are hehhhg— out to me in all of this, we are hehhhg h— out to me in all of this, we are talking in unknowns at the rhorhehh — talking in unknowns at the moment. .the- talking in unknowns at the moment. "rtrt talking in unknowns at the- moment. .the fact is that the moment. and the fact is that the police who were there at the time on the scene, they will have just been confronted by this out of the blue. and i think it is remarkable, frankly, that we've had no shots fired, that we've had no shots fired, that nothing has happened . just that nothing has happened. just talk to me a little bit about the mindset of those officers who are on the scene protecting downing street in situation like this. they have to be right on it, yeah and it's it, don't they? yeah and it's 99.99% of the _ it, don't they? yeah and it's 99.99% of the time.- c chit" c ct�*rtgr7 “rt;t“ and it's 99.99% of the time. it's the hoeh— 99.99% of the time. it's the hoeh horhg— 99.99% of the time. it's the most boring numbingly job that you eouhh— most boring numbingly job that you eouhh eer— most boring numbingly job that you could ever imagine. hhherehhy— you could ever imagine. literally you— you could ever imagine. literally you know, acting as a geheheeher— literally you know, acting as a geheheeher hor— literally you know, acting as a gatekeeper for people to come hhrough— gatekeeper for people to come hhrough hhe— gatekeeper for people to come through the gates. but as we saw just through the gates. but as we saw tueh howe— through the gates. but as we saw tueh eowh hhe— through the gates. but as we saw just down the road,— through the gates. but as we saw just down the road, when the man heeuee— just down the road, when the man eehoee ho— just down the road, when the man eehoee ho hoh— just down the road, when the man decided to not only— just down the road, when the man decided to not only run people oh hhe— decided to not only run people over on the bridge, but run in whhh— over on the bridge, but run in whhh e— over on the bridge, but run in whhh e hhre— over on the bridge, but run in with a knife, you— over on the bridge, but run in with a knife, you know, it all goee— with a knife, you know, it all goee hh— with a knife, you know, it all goee hh eh— with a knife, you know, it all goes it can all— with a knife, you know, it all goes it can all go- with a knife, you know, it all goes it can all go very wrong very— goes it can all go very wrong wery guhehhy— goes it can all go very wrong wery guhehhy .— goes it can all go very wrong very quickly . and, of course, if very quickly. and, of course, if hhre— very quickly. and, of course, if this vehicle— very quickly. and, of course, if this vehicle had— very quickly. and, of course, if

this vehicle had have detonated and this vehicle had have detonated ehe heee— this vehicle had have detonated ehe heeh e— this vehicle had have detonated and been a bomb,— this vehicle had have detonated and been a bomb, then those ohheere— and been a bomb, then those officers would— and been a bomb, then those officers would have would have euhereh— officers would have would have euhereh .— officers would have would have euhereh . so— officers would have would have suffered . so police officers got suffered. so police officers got a suffered. so police officers got every— suffered. so police officers got every ,— suffered. so police officers got every , very— suffered. so police officers got a very , very difficult job to a very, very difficult job to ho.— a very, very difficult job to go. rhey-ve — a very, very difficult job to do. they've got— a very, very difficult job to do. they've got to be alert all hhe— do. they've got to be alert all hhe hhree— do. they've got to be alert all the time, watching out for an hhhvhhueh— the time, watching out for an individual that— the time, watching out for an individual that may be going to act individual that may be going to eeh h— individual that may be going to eeh h hhe— individual that may be going to eeh h hhe wey— individual that may be going to act in the way that we've seen hohey. — act in the way that we've seen hohey. huh— act in the way that we've seen today. but more— act in the way that we've seen today. but more dangerously, if hhere-e— today. but more dangerously, if hhere-e e— today. but more dangerously, if there's a bomb— today. but more dangerously, if there's a bomb or— today. but more dangerously, if there's a bomb or or guns hvohvehh— there's a bomb or or guns involved. me,— there's a bomb or or guns involved. me, please listen . in involved. me, please listen. in hoeh— involved. me, please listen. in most countries,— involved. me, please listen. in most countries, chris massively ehhreehehe— most countries, chris massively ehhreehehe hh. — most countries, chris massively appreciate it. rrtgr appreciate it. massively appreciated. i'm very sorry to interrupt you. chris there's more breaking news on this. please stay where you are. it's chris phillips there, former chris phillips there, the former head counter—terrorism. head of counter—terrorism. i've got now, our got mark for white us now, our homeland security editor. and, mark, that have mark, i believe that you have some information on the individual arrested. yeah, we understand as— individual arrested. yeah, we understand as a— . yeah, we understand as a middle aged whhhe— understand as a middle aged whhhe hheh— understand as a middle aged white man in— understand as a middle aged white man in his— understand as a middle aged white man in his pictures now ehreuheheh— white man in his pictures now circulated of— white man in his pictures now circulated of the— white man in his pictures now circulated of the moment of erreeh— circulated of the moment of erreeh he-e— circulated of the moment of arrest, he's wearing a white t ehhrh— arrest, he's wearing a white t ehhrh hehg— arrest, he's wearing a white t shirt being led— arrest, he's wearing a white t shirt being led away by the hohee— shirt being led away by the police officers— shirt being led away by the police officers in the aftermath of hhre— police officers in the aftermath of this incident.— police officers in the aftermath of this incident. he's now been heheh— of this incident. he's now been heheh ho— of this incident. he's now been heheh ho e— of this incident. he's now been taken to a central— of this incident. he's now been taken to a central london police ehehhoh— taken to a central london police ehehhoh ,— taken to a central london police ehehhoh , we— taken to a central london police station , we understand, for station, we understand, for

gueehhohhg— station, we understand, for questioning as— station, we understand, for questioning as they tried to get to questioning as they tried to get ho hhe— questioning as they tried to get ho hhe hohhorh — questioning as they tried to get to the bottom of— questioning as they tried to get to the bottom of what happened here.— to the bottom of what happened here. who— to the bottom of what happened here. who he— to the bottom of what happened here. and he has— to the bottom of what happened here. and he has been arrested on euehhehoh— here. and he has been arrested on suspicion of— here. and he has been arrested on suspicion of criminal damage and on suspicion of criminal damage ehe hehgeroue— on suspicion of criminal damage and dangerous driving . uh, and dangerous driving. uh, eerhehhy— and dangerous driving. uh, eerhehhy h— and dangerous driving. uh, certainly in terms of dangerous hrhvhg— certainly in terms of dangerous hrhvhg, or— certainly in terms of dangerous driving, of course— certainly in terms of dangerous driving, of course ,— certainly in terms of dangerous driving, of course , if he's, you driving, of course, if he's, you know— driving, of course, if he's, you know, heeehg— driving, of course, if he's, you know, heading into the gates of a know, heading into the gates of e huhhhhg— know, heading into the gates of a building like— know, heading into the gates of a building like downing street. but a building like downing street. huh he— a building like downing street. but he certainly— a building like downing street. but he certainly going fast from the but he certainly going fast from hhe hhegee— but he certainly going fast from the images now— but he certainly going fast from the images now that i saw eerhher— the images now that i saw earlier that— the images now that i saw earlier that we've just played on ehr— earlier that we've just played on ehr hoh— earlier that we've just played on air from that— earlier that we've just played on air from that street camera hheh— on air from that street camera hheh ehowe— on air from that street camera that shows the— on air from that street camera that shows the vehicle itself going— that shows the vehicle itself gohg very— that shows the vehicle itself gohg very ehow— that shows the vehicle itself going very slow , three, four going very slow, three, four hhhee— going very slow, three, four hhhee eh— going very slow, three, four miles an hour,— going very slow, three, four miles an hour, appear to either hreeh— miles an hour, appear to either hreeh or— miles an hour, appear to either break or almost— miles an hour, appear to either break or almost stall. miles an hour, appear to either break or almost stall . and then break or almost stall. and then i break or almost stall. and then r eey— break or almost stall. and then r eey ghehhg— break or almost stall. and then i say picking up— break or almost stall. and then i say picking up speed hesitantly_ i say picking up speed hesitantly ,— i say picking up speed hesitantly , only going about hesitantly, only going about ehohher— hesitantly, only going about another few— hesitantly, only going about another few miles an hour into the another few miles an hour into hhe gehee— another few miles an hour into the gates itself— another few miles an hour into the gates itself .— another few miles an hour into the gates itself . now, the the gates itself. now, the eeeh— the gates itself. now, the search that's— the gates itself. now, the search that's ongoing at the hoheeh— search that's ongoing at the rhorhehh ,— search that's ongoing at the rhorhehh , hh— search that's ongoing at the moment , it this— search that's ongoing at the moment , it this is not a search that's ongoing at the moment, it this is not a search hheh— moment, it this is not a search hheh he— moment, it this is not a search hheh he hehhg— moment, it this is not a search that is taking place with the tee— that is taking place with the hhhee or— that is taking place with the hhhee or e— that is taking place with the likes of a bomb— that is taking place with the likes of a bomb disposal robotic eguhghehh— likes of a bomb disposal robotic eguhgrhehh hheh— likes of a bomb disposal robotic equipment that would be used if

hhey— equipment that would be used if hhey hhoughh— equipment that would be used if they thought there was any oehger— they thought there was any danger associated with this vehhehe— danger associated with this vehhehe .— danger associated with this vehicle . they— danger associated with this vehicle . they did that. patrick, vehicle. they did that. patrick, in vehicle. they did that. patrick, h hhe— vehicle. they did that. patrick, in the moments— vehicle. they did that. patrick, in the moments after they erreeheh— in the moments after they arrested this— in the moments after they arrested this man, they popped oper— arrested this man, they popped oheh hhe— arrested this man, they popped opeh hhe hooh— arrested this man, they popped opeh hhe hooh .— arrested this man, they popped open the boot . they looked in open the boot. they looked in hhe— open the boot. they looked in hhe heeeh— open the boot. they looked in hhe heck of— open the boot. they looked in the back of the— open the boot. they looked in the back of the vehicle , the the back of the vehicle, the how— the back of the vehicle, the rrohh or— the back of the vehicle, the front of the _ the back of the vehicle, the front of the vehicle under the hoheeh— front of the vehicle under the hohheh tueh— front of the vehicle under the bonnet just to— front of the vehicle under the bonnet just to determine that here— bonnet just to determine that hhere wee— bonnet just to determine that there was not— bonnet just to determine that there was not any improvised evhhoehve— there was not any improvised explosive device _ there was not any improvised explosive device on or in the vehhehe— explosive device on or in the vehhehe .— explosive device on or in the vehicle . we've— explosive device on or in the vehicle . we've established that vehicle. we've established that wheh— vehicle. we've established that wheh hhey-re— vehicle. we've established that what they're looking for now is tueh— what they're looking for now is tueh eny— what they're looking for now is just any evidence— what they're looking for now is just any evidence as to who this gehhherheh— just any evidence as to who this gehhherheh he— just any evidence as to who this gentleman is, what his motivation— gentleman is, what his motivation might have been for the motivation might have been for hhe hoheeh— motivation might have been for the incident that— motivation might have been for the incident that has unfolded here.— the incident that has unfolded here. awh— the incident that has unfolded here. who, or— the incident that has unfolded here. and, of course, he'll be ehhe— here. and, of course, he'll be ehhe ho— here. and, of course, he'll be ehhe ho geh— here. and, of course, he'll be able to gain that— here. and, of course, he'll be able to gain that kind of information— able to gain that kind of information from him, providing he he— information from him, providing he is cooperative— information from him, providing he is cooperative as well from any— he is cooperative as well from ehy hhervhewe— he is cooperative as well from any interviews that they do with hhrh — any interviews that they do with hhrh ow— any interviews that they do with hhrh hheh— any interviews that they do with him now that he— any interviews that they do with him now that he is— any interviews that they do with him now that he is in custody. he him now that he is in custody. he wee— him now that he is in custody. he was arrested— him now that he is in custody. he was arrested initially by erheh— he was arrested initially by armed police— he was arrested initially by armed police .— he was arrested initially by armed police . of course, he armed police. of course, he wouhh— armed police. of course, he wouhe heve— armed police. of course, he would have been- armed police. of course, he would have been driving a vehhehe— would have been driving a vehhehe ho— would have been driving a vehicle to the— would have been driving a vehicle to the gates of downing ehreeh— vehicle to the gates of downing ehreeh hhhe — vehicle to the gates of downing street like that. _ vehicle to the gates of downing street like that. there are erheh— street like that. there are armed police _ street like that. there are armed police on duty in numbers

at armed police on duty in numbers eh howhhg— armed police on duty in numbers at downing street. _ armed police on duty in numbers at downing street. interestingly arnhe— at downing street. interestingly arnie patrick,— at downing street. interestingly arnie patrick, you— at downing street. interestingly arnie patrick, you were mentioning— arnie patrick, you were mentioning the possibility that the mentioning the possibility that hhe ehhe— mentioning the possibility that the prime minister was was perhehe— the prime minister was was herhehe heheh— the prime minister was was perhaps taken away by a security hohoreeee— perhaps taken away by a security motorcade that— perhaps taken away by a security motorcade that would not be a eurhrhee— motorcade that would not be a eurhrhee h— motorcade that would not be a surprise if that— motorcade that would not be a surprise if that happened . you surprise if that happened. you rerherherh h— surprise if that happened. you remember in 2017 when the westminster— remember in 2017 when the westminster terrorist attack, wheh— westminster terrorist attack, when hheh— westminster terrorist attack, when that unfolded at the time , when that unfolded at the time, hhereee— when that unfolded at the time, um, theresa may— when that unfolded at the time, um, theresa may was in perhherhehh. — um, theresa may was in parliament. she was then led ewey. — parliament. she was then led ewey. rh— parliament. she was then led ewey. rh wee— parliament. she was then led away. it was quite chaotic scenes and they've learned some heeeoe— scenes and they've learned some heeeoe hoh— scenes and they've learned some lessons from that— scenes and they've learned some lessons from that actually, in hhe— lessons from that actually, in hhe yeere— lessons from that actually, in the years since— lessons from that actually, in the years since where they hheh-h— the years since where they didn't know— the years since where they didn't know what vehicle to put hhereee— didn't know what vehicle to put hhereee wey— didn't know what vehicle to put theresa may in— didn't know what vehicle to put theresa may in farage and evehhuehhy— theresa may in farage and eventually got— theresa may in farage and eventually got her into her groper— eventually got her into her proper vehicle— eventually got her into her proper vehicle and drove away at ereeh— proper vehicle and drove away at ereeh hoh— proper vehicle and drove away at speed from westminster . proper vehicle and drove away at speed from westminster. but remember, of— speed from westminster. but remember, of course, westminster at remember, of course, westminster eh hheh— remember, of course, westminster eh hheh hhree— remember, of course, westminster eh hheh hhrhe wee— remember, of course, westminster at that time was under attack . at that time was under attack. hhe — at that time was under attack. the terrorists _ at that time was under attack. the terrorists had— at that time was under attack. the terrorists had gone in and rehehhy— the terrorists had gone in and fatally stabbed— the terrorists had gone in and fatally stabbed pc keith palmer. so fatally stabbed pc keith palmer. so hhey—

fatally stabbed pc keith palmer. so hhey reehhy— fatally stabbed pc keith palmer. so they really didn't know what the so they really didn't know what hhe hhreeh— so they really didn't know what the threat was— so they really didn't know what the threat was .— so they really didn't know what the threat was . but like this the threat was. but like this hoheeh— the threat was. but like this hoheehh ee— the threat was. but like this incident as well, in the very eerhy— incident as well, in the very eerhy ehegee— incident as well, in the very eerhy ehegee ,— incident as well, in the very early stages , although now it early stages, although now it hooke— early stages, although now it hoohe ho— early stages, although now it hoohe ho ue— early stages, although now it looks to us that— early stages, although now it looks to us that it's actually rehrhy— looks to us that it's actually rehrhy how— looks to us that it's actually fairly low end— looks to us that it's actually fairly low end in— looks to us that it's actually fairly low end in terms of the rheh— fairly low end in terms of the rheh hheh— fairly low end in terms of the rheh hheh hey— fairly low end in terms of the risk that may have been posed by this individual,— risk that may have been posed by this individual, the— risk that may have been posed by this individual, the police hoh-h— this individual, the police hoh-h hhow— this individual, the police don't know that in the first few eeohhe— don't know that in the first few eeohhe hheh— don't know that in the first few seconds that this— don't know that in the first few seconds that this event is uhrohhhg— seconds that this event is uhrohhhg .— seconds that this event is unfolding . so— seconds that this event is unfolding . so it may well have unfolding. so it may well have heee— unfolding. so it may well have been hheh— unfolding. so it may well have been that the— unfolding. so it may well have been that the code words go heeeh— been that the code words go heeh hhe — been that the code words go back, the close— been that the code words go back, the close security eehehhe— back, the close security details, get— back, the close security details, get the prime minister ehh— details, get the prime minister end he— details, get the prime minister and his aides— details, get the prime minister and his aides into these motorcades_ and his aides into these motorcades and get out of the huhhehg— motorcades and get out of the huhhhhg eo— motorcades and get out of the huhhehg eo hh— motorcades and get out of the building so it may well be an accurate description that you're eeeerhhhg— accurate description that you're describing there. _ accurate description that you're describing there. patrick rerhehe— describing there. patrick eerhehe e— describing there. patrick perhaps a prime ministerial hohoreehe— perhaps a prime ministerial motorcade leaving the building . motorcade leaving the building. veeh— motorcade leaving the building. veeh. hheh.— motorcade leaving the building. yeah, mark, look,— motorcade leaving the building. yeah, mark, look, thank- motorcade leaving the building. yeah, mark, look, thank you very, very much. now, mark will have more information as and when we get it, just from what i could hear him say. so far, what we appear to know about the individual who been arrested individual who has been arrested after driven into after a car was driven into the gates not so gates of downing street not so long . is that from the long ago. is that from the images we have , it appears

images that we have, it appears to a white, middle aged man. to be a white, middle aged man. this still out this hatchback is still out there the moment. now, i'm there at the moment. now, i'm going back to downing going to go back to downing street. is right at the street. so this is right at the scene of the images that you are seeing your television seeing on your television screens. us screens. if you're watching us on online . but for those on tv or online. but for those of you watching it radio of you watching it on radio darren mccaffrey, political darren mccaffrey, our political editor on downing street at editor is on downing street at the for us. and darren, editor is on downing street at the are for us. and darren, editor is on downing street at the are youfor us. and darren, editor is on downing street at the are you seeing tnd darren, editor is on downing street at the are you seeing . yes,rren, editor is on downing street at the are you seeing . yes, i'm. what are you seeing. yes, i'm about 15m away.— what are you seeing. yes, i'm about 15m away. patrick- trig yes, i'm about 15m away. patrick from the car about 15m away. patrick from the hhere— about 15m away. patrick from the hhere .— about 15m away. patrick from the hhere . ae— about 15m away. patrick from the car there . as you— about 15m away. patrick from the car there . as you can see, the car there. as you can see, the hohee— car there. as you can see, the police officers— car there. as you can see, the police officers are— car there. as you can see, the police officers are still eeerehhg— police officers are still searching through. they've been eeerehhg— searching through. they've been searching through— searching through. they've been searching through it now for the heeeh— searching through it now for the heeh perh— searching through it now for the heeh herh or— searching through it now for the heeh eerh or eh— searching through it now for the best part of an hour. there is no sense of an— best part of an hour. there is no sense of an immediate or hhrhhehh— no sense of an immediate or imminent danger— no sense of an immediate or imminent danger to the to the ruthe— imminent danger to the to the huhhhe. hhre— imminent danger to the to the public. this seems like a evhhehee— public. this seems like a evidence gathering exercise rehher— evidence gathering exercise rehherhheh— evidence gathering exercise rather than trying to assess whehher— rather than trying to assess whehher e— rather than trying to assess whether a poses a threat or not. we-ve— whether a poses a threat or not. we've seen officers— whether a poses a threat or not. we've seen officers go through the we've seen officers go through hhe hooh,— we've seen officers go through hhe hooh, go— we've seen officers go through the boot, go through the geeeehger— the boot, go through the passenger seats and indeed the where— passenger seats and indeed the where eeeh— passenger seats and indeed the driver's seat as— passenger seats and indeed the driver's seat as well. and as wew— driver's seat as well. and as werh hee— driver's seat as well. and as mark has been— driver's seat as well. and as mark has been describing , we've mark has been describing, we've vrheo— mark has been describing, we've now seen video footage of the ereeh— now seen video footage of the arrest itself. _ now seen video footage of the arrest itself. and— now seen video footage of the arrest itself. and indeed the hoheeh— arrest itself. and indeed the

incident which _ arrest itself. and indeed the incident which was captured on on cerv— incident which was captured on oh my here— incident which was captured on on cctv here on— incident which was captured on on cctv here on whitehall. and wheh-e— on cctv here on whitehall. and wheh-e hwo— on cctv here on whitehall. and what's two things— on cctv here on whitehall. and what's two things i kind of note ehouh— what's two things i kind of note ehouh hh— what's two things i kind of note about it. first— what's two things i kind of note about it. first of— what's two things i kind of note about it. first of all, we don't guhhe— about it. first of all, we don't guhhe hhow— about it. first of all, we don't quite know where _ about it. first of all, we don't quite know where the vehicle comes from because it cuts across whitehall from the rrhhehry— across whitehall from the rrhhehry or— across whitehall from the ministry of defence to downing ehreeh— ministry of defence to downing ehreeh-hheh-e— ministry of defence to downing street that's actually street. now that's not actually a street. now that's not actually e roee— street. now that's not actually e roeh ee— street. now that's not actually e roeh ee h— street. now that's not actually a road as in the— street. now that's not actually a road as in the position it comes from is— a road as in the position it comes from is the gates of the rrhhehry— comes from is the gates of the rrhhehry or— comes from is the gates of the ministry of defence . you cannot ministry of defence. you cannot get ministry of defence. you cannot geh eeeeee— ministry of defence. you cannot geh ho— ministry of defence. you cannot get access to that— ministry of defence. you cannot get access to that and it cuts rhghh— get access to that and it cuts rhghh eoee— get access to that and it cuts right across the _ get access to that and it cuts right across the two lanes of hhe— right across the two lanes of hhe hour— right across the two lanes of the four lanes— right across the two lanes of the four lanes of— right across the two lanes of the four lanes of traffic. aehuehhy— the four lanes of traffic. actually here - the four lanes of traffic. actually here in whitehall, very ehowhy— actually here in whitehall, very ehowhy we— actually here in whitehall, very ehowhy we hho— actually here in whitehall, very slowly we into the _ actually here in whitehall, very slowly we into the gates of howhhg— slowly we into the gates of downing street _ slowly we into the gates of downing street . so while it downing street. so while it hooke— downing street. so while it hoohe guhhe— downing street. so while it looks quite deliberate and it ho— looks quite deliberate and it ho he— looks quite deliberate and it seems to be quite deliberate, it hohe— seems to be quite deliberate, it was done actually— seems to be quite deliberate, it was done actually really not whhh— was done actually really not whhh much— was done actually really not with much pace,— was done actually really not with much pace, it should be are,— with much pace, it should be eehe, huh— with much pace, it should be eehe, huh eh— with much pace, it should be said, but at the— with much pace, it should be said, but at the moment the ehhuehhoh— said, but at the moment the situation is— said, but at the moment the situation is that— said, but at the moment the situation is that the police in hhe— situation is that the police in hhe ereeh— situation is that the police in the grand scheme of having seen hoheehhe— the grand scheme of having seen incidents like— the grand scheme of having seen incidents like this— the grand scheme of having seen incidents like this in the past reehhy— incidents like this in the past seem pretty relaxed. there are eheerhy— seem pretty relaxed. there are eheerhy e— seem pretty relaxed. there are clearly a number— seem pretty relaxed. there are clearly a number of them around, but clearly a number of them around, huh hh-e— clearly a number of them around, huh hh-e hoh— clearly a number of them around, but it's not swamped with police ohheere. — but it's not swamped with police officers. _ allowedi officers. the public are allowed to officers. the public are allowed ho—eeeeee- officers. the public are allowed hoeeeeee— hol to get pretty close access to hhre— to get pretty close access to he. hhe— to get pretty close access to this. the - does - to get pretty close access to this. the does remain this. the road does remain ehoeehh— this. the road does remain closed,-policel this. the road does remain- closed,-police officer closed, though. a police officer did closed, though. a police officer ere-whhhe— closed, though. a police officer ere-whhhe ego- closed, though. a police officer did while ago that it did suggest a while ago that it may— did suggest a while ago that it hey hh— did suggest a while ago that it hey hh hey— did suggest a while ago that it hey hh hey wehh—

did suggest a while ago that it may it may well reopen pretty huh— may it may well reopen pretty huh eh— may it may well reopen pretty soon. but at the— may it may well reopen pretty soon. but at the moment it seems hheh— soon. but at the moment it seems hheh hhey— soon. but at the moment it seems hheh hhey ee— soon. but at the moment it seems that they are simply— soon. but at the moment it seems that they are simply gathering exercise, that— that they are simply gathering exercise, that they have now heeeh— exercise, that they have now heeeh oh— exercise, that they have now taped off downing street as if it taped off downing street as if hh he— taped off downing street as if hh he e— taped off downing street as if hh he e ehhe— taped off downing street as if it is a crime scene. clearly hhre— it is a crime scene. clearly hhhe heh— it is a crime scene. clearly this man will— it is a crime scene. clearly this man will be- it is a crime scene. clearly this man will be arrested. he's heeh— this man will be arrested. he's been arrested— this man will be arrested. he's been arrested for— this man will be arrested. he's been arrested for criminal eehege— been arrested for criminal eehege .— been arrested for criminal eehege . huh— been arrested for criminal damage . but the expectation is damage. but the expectation is hheh— damage. but the expectation is hheh hhe— damage. but the expectation is that the street— damage. but the expectation is that the street here in whitehall,— that the street here in whitehall, the main thoroughfare, the political thoroughfare, _ thoroughfare, the political thoroughfare, if you like, of hhre— thoroughfare, if you like, of he eouhhry— thoroughfare, if you like, of this country, will reopen pretty aho— this country, will reopen pretty who hhe— this country, will reopen pretty soon. and the people, the public whhh— soon. and the people, the public whhh he— soon. and the people, the public whhh he eeheh— soon. and the people, the public will be asked to— soon. and the people, the public will be asked to move back . yeah will be asked to move back. yeah no, will be asked to move back. yeah heeeh. — will be asked to move back. yeah no, indeed. darren,— will be asked to move back. yeah no, indeed. i no, indeed. darren, thank you very much. darren mccaffrey, they're doing stellar stuff from the scene in downing street. now i am going to major i am going to go to major general chip chapman, who is the former head of counter—terrorism at the ministry of defence . at the ministry of defence. thank you very much, chip . it's thank you very much, chip. it's great to have you on the show. massive confusion , really, as massive confusion, really, as darren was saying about where this vehicle has come from. anyone who knows that area knows that. anyone who knows that area knows that . it appears that it's that. it appears that it's possibly come from somewhere just outside the ministry of defence and driven very, very

slowly towards the gates of downing street. what do you make of the information that we've been presented with so far, major well , i been presented with so far, major well, i know been presented with so far, major well , i know the major general well, i know the mod car park very well and of course the gates there are controlled. and if you if this ho— controlled. and if you if this ho he— controlled. and if you if this ho he e— controlled. and if you if this were to be a terrorist- ti and if you if this were to be a terrorist attack ehh— were to be a terrorist attack ehe vehhehe— were to be a terrorist attack and vehicle is— were to be a terrorist attack and vehicle is a— were to be a terrorist attack and vehicle is a weapon, is one of and vehicle is a weapon, is one or hhe— and vehicle is a weapon, is one of the methods— and vehicle is a weapon, is one of the methods you _ and vehicle is a weapon, is one of the methods you have . there of the methods you have. there are of the methods you have. there hhree— of the methods you have. there are three things— of the methods you have. there are three things that pertain to are three things that pertain to e vehhehe— are three things that pertain to e vehhehe ee— are three things that pertain to a vehicle as a— are three things that pertain to a vehicle as a weapon that to do eehege. — a vehicle as a weapon that to do eehege. hhe— a vehicle as a weapon that to do damage. the first— a vehicle as a weapon that to do damage. the first one is speed. hhe— damage. the first one is speed. hhe eeoh— damage. the first one is speed. the second one— damage. the first one is speed. the second one is— damage. the first one is speed. the second one is mass. and the hhre— the second one is mass. and the hhhrh ohe— the second one is mass. and the hhhrh he— the second one is mass. and the third one is angle— the second one is mass. and the third one is angle of attack . third one is angle of attack. ahe— third one is angle of attack. who hhre— third one is angle of attack. and this looks— third one is angle of attack. and this looks like it's hrhehhee— and this looks like it's trickled over- and this looks like it's trickled over the as trickled over the line, as it were, very, slowly . and if were, very, very slowly. and if youre— were, very, very slowly. and if youhe-ho— were, very, very slowly. and if youhe-ho hry— were, very, very slowly. and if you're-to try and- were, very, very slowly. and if you're to try and kill you're going to try and kill. someone,_have you're going to try and kill- someone,_have you someone, then you only have you heve— someone, then you only have you heve eeh— someone, then you only have you have 90% chance.— someone, then you only have you have 90% chance. if— someone, then you only have you have 90% chance. if it's over 40 hhhee— have 90% chance. if it's over 40 he eh— have 90% chance. if it's over 40 he eh hour— have 90% chance. if it's over 40 miles an hour and— have 90% chance. if it's over 40 miles an hour and you've eehuehhy— miles an hour and you've eehuehhy goh— miles an hour and you've actually got a— miles an hour and you've actually got a 90% chance of eurvhvhg— actually got a 90% chance of eurvhvhg h— actually got a 90% chance of surviving if it's— actually got a 90% chance of surviving if it's under 20 miles an surviving if it's under 20 miles eh hour.— surviving if it's under 20 miles eh hour. wow,— surviving if it's under 20 miles an hour. now, at— surviving if it's under 20 miles an hour. now, at the moment, we hoh-h— an hour. now, at the moment, we hoh-h hhow— an hour. now, at the moment, we hoh-h hhow hhe— an hour. now, at the moment, we don't know the motivation. so it's don't know the motivation. so the wrong— don't know the motivation. so the wrong ho— don't know the motivation. so it's wrong to say— don't know the motivation. so it's wrong to say that this is a herrorheh— it's wrong to say that this is a terrorist attack.— it's wrong to say that this is a terrorist attack. and indeed, 2 or|yeere— terrorist attack. and indeed, 2 or|yeere ego,— terrorist attack. and indeed, 2 or years ago, people jumped to or 3 years ago, people jumped to a or 3 years ago, people jumped to e eoheuehhoh— or 3 years ago, people jumped to a conclusion-trier,— or 3 years ago, people jumped to a conclusion trier, germany , a conclusion in trier, germany, wheh— a conclusion in trier, germany, wheh hhere— a conclusion in trier, germany, wheh hhere-e— a conclusion in trier, germany, when there a medical when there was a medical hoheehh. — when there was a medical incident. so— when there was a medical incident. so the spectrum is ehhhh— incident. so the spectrum is ehhhh guhhe— incident. so the spectrum is still quite wide— incident. so the spectrum is still quite wide at the moment hheh— still quite wide at the moment hheh hh— still quite wide at the moment hheh hh eouhh— still quite wide at the moment that it could be— still quite wide at the moment that it could be from a medical

hoheeh— that it could be from a medical hoheehh ehh— that it could be from a medical incident and it— that it could be from a medical incident and it could be a herrorheh— incident and it could be a. terrorist _you terrorist incident where you know— terrorist incident where you know, hhere — terrorist incident where you know, there was— terrorist incident where you know, there was the theatre of herrorreh — know, there was the theatre of terrorism could— know, there was the theatre of terrorism could apply, but it wouhh— terrorism could apply, but it wouhe he— terrorism could apply, but it would be speculative to say that wheh— would be speculative to say that wheh you— would be speculative to say that wheh you eh— would be speculative to say that wheh you eey— would be speculative to say that what you can say is— would be speculative to say that what you can say is that in herhe— what you can say is that in herhe or— what you can say is that in terms of the— what you can say is that in terms of the counter—terrorist ehrehegy— terms of the counter—terrorist ehrehegy ,— terms of the counter—terrorist ehrehegy , ohe— terms of the counter—terrorist strategy , one of— terms of the counter—terrorist strategy , one of the parts of strategy, one of the parts of hheh— strategy, one of the parts of hheh he— strategy, one of the parts of that is protect— strategy, one of the parts of that is protect it— strategy, one of the parts of that is protect it and the gates of howhhg— that is protect it and the gates of downing street and indeed all the of downing street and indeed all hhe eeeurhhy— of downing street and indeed all the security architecture you h— the security architecture you h hhe— the security architecture you see in the pictures behind you, hhey-ve— see in the pictures behind you, they've actually— see in the pictures behind you, they've actually been built into a they've actually been built into eeerheh— they've actually been built into a certain depth— they've actually been built into a certain depth to— they've actually been built into a certain depth to stop vehicles houhhhg— a certain depth to stop vehicles houhhhg hhe— a certain depth to stop vehicles mounting the pavement so that geothe— mounting the pavement so that geoghe ee— mounting the pavement so that geoghe oh— mounting the pavement so that people are on those pavements woh-h— people are on those pavements woh-h geh— people are on those pavements woh-h geh ow— people are on those pavements won't get mown down. that is the reason for that— won't get mown down. that is the reason for that is— won't get mown down. that is the reason for that is because of hhe— reason for that is because of hhe crowded— reason for that is because of the crowded places methodology that the crowded places methodology hheh h— the crowded places methodology hheh h h— the crowded places methodology hheh h h wee— the crowded places methodology that if it was a— the crowded places methodology that if it was a terrorist ehheeh— that if it was a terrorist attack, generally people would try attack, generally people would hry ehe— attack, generally people would hry ehe ehheeh— attack, generally people would try and attack crowded places . try and attack crowded places. huh— try and attack crowded places. huh hh— try and attack crowded places. huh hh wouhh— try and attack crowded places. but it would be— try and attack crowded places. but it would be speculative to say— but it would be speculative to eey hheh— but it would be speculative to eey hheh eh— but it would be speculative to say that at the— but it would be speculative to say that at the moment. and if the say that at the moment. and if hhe hereon— say that at the moment. and if the person were— say that at the moment. and if the person were deemed to be ehhhh— the person were deemed to be ehhhh e— the person were deemed to be still a threat,— the person were deemed to be still a threat, then the police wouhh— still a threat, then the police wouhe heve— still a threat, then the police would have taken executive eehhoh— would have taken executive action against— would have taken executive action against him. that is, hhey— action against him. that is, hhey hey— action against him. that is, hhey hey wehh— action against him. that is, they may well have discharged hheh— they may well have discharged hhehr weehoe— they may well have discharged their weapons against him. so i hhhh— their weapons against him. so i hhhh hh-e— their weapons against him. so i hhhh hh-e hoo— their weapons against him. so i think it's too early— their weapons against him. so i think it's too early to speculate. - think it's too early to speculate. i'll stop you there . speculate. i'll stop you there. i'll speculate. i'll stop you there. uh huh— speculate. i'll stop you there. uh huh r-hh— speculate. i'll stop you there. i'll just i'll just— speculate. i'll stop you there. i'll just i'll just pause- speculate. i'll stop you there. i'll just i'll just pause you- i'll just i'll just pause you there. major general, if that's

okay. thank you very much. please stay on the line for me. that was the voice of major general chip chapman, former head at the head of counter terrorism at the ministry of defence. a confusing picture of the car picture emerging of the car potentially coming out of the ministry of defence somewhere ministry of defence or somewhere near and near the gates anyway, and driving into downing street. but major chip chapman major general chip chapman was talkingthe people who will have police, the people who will have been gate on been guarding that gate on downing street, people who been guarding that gate on dottrust street, people who been guarding that gate on dottrust st keep people who been guarding that gate on dottrust st keep ourselves; who been guarding that gate on dottrust st keep ourselves ando we trust to keep ourselves and our prime minister safe. it is understood that rishi was understood that rishi sunak was in street at the time of in downing street at the time of this incident. peter bleksley joins me now, former detective at the police. peter, thank at the met police. peter, thank you and thank for holding on you and thank you for holding on the for a period the line for such a long period of just a word to your of time. just a word to your former colleagues, really there who have at the who would have been at the scene, have been scene, who would have been confronted horrifying scene, who would have been confronteof horrifying scene, who would have been confronteof coming ing scene, who would have been confronteof coming towards moment of a car coming towards them to them and them having to make a split second decision without a shot fired ? well, i think with shot fired? well, i think with the shot fired? well, i think with hhe eheehe— shot fired? well, i think with the speeds that— shot fired? well, i think with the speeds that this- �*" ”rt;ri7 well, i think with the speeds that this vehicle ereeheh— the speeds that this vehicle crashed into— the speeds that this vehicle crashed into the— the speeds that this vehicle crashed into the gates, or ehouhh— crashed into the gates, or ehouhh r— crashed into the gates, or should i say,— crashed into the gates, or should i say, nudged into the gehee— should i say, nudged into the gehee ,— should i say, nudged into the gehee , hhey— should i say, nudged into the gates , they were— should i say, nudged into the gates , they were probably more gates, they were probably more puzzheh— gates, they were probably more puzzheh hheh— gates, they were probably more puzzled than petrified .

puzzled than petrified. fortunately, _ puzzled than petrified. fortunately, of- puzzled than petrified. fortunately, of course, no shots were fired. in fact, the vehicle was going so slowly that it looks like the airbag didn't even deploy. i've seen the hhegee— even deploy. i've seen the hhegee or— even deploy. i've seen the images of the— even deploy. i've seen the images of the man- t�* 3 i've seen the images of the man he looks about my ager— images of the man he looks about hy ege, eehuehhy. — images of the man he looks about my age, actually. rt; rigrte my age, actually. he's got a hehu— my age, actually. he's got a bald spot on the back of his head the size of mine and i suspect that when the dust has settled and this man will invariably be charged and appear at westminster magistrates court, my prediction would be this is more about protest than it certainly is about any determined or poorly executed kind of terrorist attack . talk kind of terrorist attack. talk to me a bit more about- tri t talk to me a bit more about that , to me a bit more about that, heheu— to me a bit more about that, reher. wheh— to me a bit more about that, peter. what did— to me a bit more about that, peter. what did you mean by the fact peter. what did you mean by the reeh hheh— peter. what did you mean by the heeh hheh you — peter. what did you mean by the fact that you think— peter. what did you mean by the fact that you think it's more ehouh— fact that you think it's more about protest— fact that you think it's more about protest than anything eerhouehy— about protest than anything seriously orchestrated in terror rehehehe— seriously orchestrated in terror rehehehe r— seriously orchestrated in terror related? i mean,— seriously orchestrated in terror related? i mean, let's be hoheeh—wel related? i mean, let's be. honest._we know related? i mean, let's be- honest._we know so honest. from what we know so far:— honest. from what we know so her-hooh— honest. from what we know so far,-look quite- far, it does look quite amateurish.- far, it does look quite amateurish. what kind amateurish. but what kind of hoheeh— amateurish. but what kind of protest-talking- amateurish. but what kind of protest talking about? protest are we talking about? war.— protest are we talking about? wehh. hr— protest are we talking about? wehh. hr hhre— protest are we talking about? well, if this man— protest are we talking about? well, if this man doesn't- protest are we talking about? well, if this man doesn't get a custodial offence and as it would appear , there are no would appear, there are no injuries , there's no evidence injuries, there's no evidence yet of any intent to hurt

anybody . we know devices have anybody. we know devices have apparently been seized from the vehicle. then this could quite possibly be a disgruntled middle aged man, perhaps irritated by the migration figures today, who wants simply to make a protest vest. and they will think that if they don't get a custodial sentence at court, then they'll walk out of the steps. perhaps two reporters in front of them , two reporters in front of them, and we'll be able to say why they did this stupid , idiotic they did this stupid, idiotic thing that supposition on my behalf . i may, of course, be behalf. i may, of course, be proved to be entirely wrong. but if i was a gambling man, which i most definitely am not, that's the side i'd be coming down on at the moment . peter i the side i'd be coming down on at the moment. peter i mean, it is at the moment. peter i mean, it he reeehehhg— at the moment. peter i mean, it he reeehehhg .— at the moment. peter i mean, it is fascinating . i— at the moment. peter i mean, it is fascinating . i know- at the moment. peter i mean, it is fascinating . i know a- peter i mean, it is fascinating . i know a lot of is fascinating. i know a lot of geothe— is fascinating. i know a lot of geoghe hhghh— is fascinating. i know a lot of people might be— is fascinating. i know a lot of people might be speculating that for people might be speculating that ror wheh— people might be speculating that for wheh hh-e— people might be speculating that for what it's worth,— people might be speculating that for what it's worth, this was a heh— for what it's worth, this was a heh hhgrehhoh— for what it's worth, this was a net migration special here in hoehoh— net migration special here in hoehoh h— net migration special here in boston, in lincolnshire , until boston, in lincolnshire, until of course, we were massively

overheheh — of course, we were massively overheheh hy— of course, we were massively overtaken by events. what we're eeehg— overtaken by events. what we're eeehg how— overtaken by events. what we're eeehhg oh— overtaken by events. what we're seeing now on people's screens as seeing now on people's screens ee-roohege— seeing now on people's screens ee-roohege or- seeing now on people's screens as-footage of the- seeing now on people's screens as footage of the cordon as well is footage of the cordon erouhh— as well is footage of the cordon around downing— as well is footage of the cordon around downing street is eerhehhy— around downing street is certainly not— around downing street is certainly not out that wide. so the certainly not out that wide. so hhe hohee— certainly not out that wide. so the police again,— certainly not out that wide. so the police again, i want to rehherehe— the police again, i want to reiterate clearly- the police again, i want to reiterate clearly not concerned hheh— reiterate clearly not concerned hheh hhre— reiterate clearly not concerned hheh he he— reiterate clearly not concerned hheh he he e— reiterate clearly not concerned that this is a vehicle stack ruhh— that this is a vehicle stack ruhh or— that this is a vehicle stack full of explosives or stack full of full of explosives or stack full or ehyhhhg — full of explosives or stack full of anything that— full of explosives or stack full of anything that could go off at any of anything that could go off at ehy hohehh— of anything that could go off at any moment. members of the huhhhe— any moment. members of the public, tourists,— any moment. members of the public, tourists, the usual geothe— public, tourists, the usual people walking past downing ehreeh— people walking past downing street around— people walking past downing street around westminster at the hohehh— street around westminster at the hohehh oehg— street around westminster at the moment, being allowed to have rehehhvehy— moment, being allowed to have relatively close— moment, being allowed to have relatively close access to this reher— relatively close access to this car. peter thank— relatively close access to this car. peter thank you very, very much. — car. peter thank you very, very much. r— car. peter thank you very, very much. i believe— car. peter thank you very, very much. i believe i've still got ehhe— much. i believe i've still got chris phillips— much. i believe i've still got chris phillips on— much. i believe i've still got chris phillips on the line, rorher— chris phillips on the line, former head— chris phillips on the line, former head of- chris phillips on the line, former head of counter—terror hheh. — former head of counter—terror hheh. ehhe— former head of counter—terror prism. chris, thank you. look now since . since - prism. chris, thank you. look now since since we last spoke now since we since we last spoke , ehhe— now since we since we last spoke , chrhe ehoe— now since we since we last spoke , chrhe we— now since we since we last spoke , chris, since we last— now since we since we last spoke , chris, since we last spoke, we heve— , chris, since we last spoke, we have seen that— , chris, since we last spoke, we have seen that an— , chris, since we last spoke, we have seen that an individual has heeh— have seen that an individual has been arrested.— have seen that an individual has been arrested. it— have seen that an individual has been arrested. it appears to be a been arrested. it appears to be ewhhhe— been arrested. it appears to be a white, middle— been arrested. it appears to be a white, middle aged man and tueh— a white, middle aged man and tueh hoh— a white, middle aged man and just from that— a white, middle aged man and just from that person there, ehhe— just from that person there, chrhe h— just from that person there, chris, in your— just from that person there, chris, in your capacity as a former— chris, in your capacity as a former head— chris, in your capacity as a former head of— chris, in your capacity as a former head of counter herrorreh— former head of counter terrorism, do- former head of counter terrorism, do you think he fits anv— terrorism, do you think he fits ehy hhe— terrorism, do you think he fits ehy hheh or— terrorism, do you think he fits any kind of terror— terrorism, do you think he fits any kind of terror profile? what wouhh— any kind of terror profile? what wouhe you— any kind of terror profile? what would you make— any kind of terror profile? what would you make of it, chris? do

you— would you make of it, chris? do you hhhh— would you make of it, chris? do you think maybe,— would you make of it, chris? do you think maybe, as peter hhehehey— you think maybe, as peter bleksley was— you think maybe, as peter bleksley was saying, this could be bleksley was saying, this could he hoe— bleksley was saying, this could he or— bleksley was saying, this could he or e— bleksley was saying, this could be more of a protest than ehyhhhhge— be more of a protest than anything? seriously planned in the-terrorism?- anything? seriously planned in the terrorism? yeah, i the world of terrorism? yeah, i hhhh— the world of terrorism? yeah, i hhhh hh-e— the world of terrorism? yeah, i think it's much— the world of terrorism? yeah, i think it's much more likely to be someone that's i mean, just hoeer— be someone that's i mean, just heer h— be someone that's i mean, just heer h hho— be someone that's i mean, just bear in mind that— be someone that's i mean, just bear in mind that anyone can the— bear in mind that anyone can hrhve uh— bear in mind that anyone can hrhve uh hheh— bear in mind that anyone can drive up that road. so anyone hheh— drive up that road. so anyone that suddenly decides to, to, to make a bit of a scene or wants to get himself on the telly, can can do this. so that it appears that that's what's happened. it appears that not appears that it's not a terrorist related but but time will but but i have to will tell. but but i have to say, patrick, it's quite amazing that this man wasn't shot because, you know, you've got police officers there potentially expecting, you know , a potential terrorist attack and someone drives at them and it's quite amazing in this country that our police officers, you know, don't don't shoot, shoot them. you'd expect i wonder you probably wonder, chris, i, i wonder. chris, let me tueh— chris, i, i wonder. chris, let he tueh ohe— chris, i, i wonder. chris, let me just come in— chris, i, i wonder. chris, let me just come in here,- 3 chris, let me just come in here, chris, heuee— me just come in here, chris, because on that,— me just come in here, chris, because on that, i think you hehe— because on that, i think you hehe e— because on that, i think you make a really,— because on that, i think you make a really, really good potho— make a really, really good gohhh, whheh— make a really, really good point, which is— make a really, really good point, which is that i am ehreeh— point, which is that i am amazed,-sure- point, which is that i am amazed, sure we all point, which is that i am- amazed,-sure we all are, amazed, as i'm sure we all are,

hheh—weeh-h- that this individual wasn't ehoh— that this individual wasn'ti ehoh—hhere that this individual wasn't. ehoh. —hhere , shot. the implication there, hhough— shot. the implication there, hhough r— shot. the implication there, though, i suspect, will be that the though, i suspect, will be that hhe—hhe— though, i suspect, will be that hhe—hhe-eehl the people on the scene can chew— the people on the scene can eheerhy eee— the people on the scene can clearly see what's happening heroe— clearly see what's happening before them— clearly see what's happening before them in— clearly see what's happening before them in way that we before them in a way that we eheh. — before them in a way that we eheh. .— before them in a way that we can't. .i-wonder- before them in a way that we. can't. - i .wonder whether can't. and i just wonder whether or-hhere— can't. and i just wonder whether or-hhere he— can't. and i just wonder whether or-hhere he e— can't. and i just wonder whether or-there is a little- can't. and i just wonder whether or there is a little bit or not there is a little bit horelhhhe— or not there is a little bit more this meets or not there is a little bit. more .this-meets the or not there is a little bit- more .this-meets the eye. more to this than meets the eye. hheh— more to this than meets the eye. hheh-erhvhg— more to this than meets the eye. that-driving very,— more to this than meets the eye. that driving very, very that car driving very, very ehowhy. — that car driving very, very ehowhy. vou — that car driving very, very slowly. you know, we know that someone's been— slowly. you know, we know that someone's been arrested , but someone's been arrested, but eehuehhy— someone's been arrested, but actually because _ someone's been arrested, but actually because we don't know wheh— actually because we don't know wheh hhe— actually because we don't know what kind i state _ actually because we don't know what kind state health what kind of state of health hheh— what kind of state of health that individual— what kind of state of health that individual was in, mean, that individual was in, i mean, it that individual was in, i mean, hh eouhh— that individual was in, i mean, it could something, you know, it could be something, you know, like it could be something, you know, hhhe-e— it could be something, you know, hhhe-e-heeue- like a like a health issue hohehhhehhy— like a like a health issue potentially, couldn't it? it eouhh— potentially, couldn't it? it eouhh he. — potentially, couldn't it? it could be. but- potentially, couldn't it? it could be. c c could be. but it's more likely to be a mental health issue, i think, because the angle of that, he's come in at would mean that, he's come in at would mean that would mean that pretty that would mean that it's pretty much deliberate. you wouldn't be able i don't think able to do that. i don't think unless you you deliberately wanted but he clearly hasn't wanted to but he clearly hasn't rammed into the gates, as peter bleksley said it's more bleksley said, it's more of a nudge. but still, you know, you've got police officers there that well that if that that know very well that if that vehicle does contain explosive , vehicle does contain explosive, they're likely to die. so you know, the fact that they haven't taken an executive action is quite amazing. and we should be

commending our police officers for their restraint . yeah. yeah for their restraint. yeah. yeah chris, thank you very much. chris, thank you very much. chris phillips, our former head of counterterrorism . now we're of counterterrorism. now we're gohg— of counterterrorism. now we're gohg heeh— of counterterrorism. now we're gohg heeh ho— of counterterrorism. now we're going back to tom harwood, our hehuhy— going back to tom harwood, our eehuhy gohhhheeh— going back to tom harwood, our deputy political editor, who i hehheve— deputy political editor, who i believe - little - deputy political editor, who i believe-little bit- deputy political editor, who i believe little bit more believe has a little bit more hreehhg— believe has a little bit more breaking news— believe has a little bit more breaking news this downing breaking news on this downing ehreeh— breaking news on this downing ehreeh-hoh - breaking news on this downing street-tom that's. street car crash. tom that's rhghh— street car crash. tom that's right, patrick. we have some words from people on the scene who saw it happen . of course, we who saw it happen. of course, we had seen that almost cctv like footage of the car moving remarkably slowly , but we remarkably slowly, but we couldn't see what the driver was doing . well, witness simon perry doing. well, witness simon perry has said that the driver had his face to the floor as he was being arrested . he said the man being arrested. he said the man appeared to slow down before reaching the gates of downing street . having driven out from street. having driven out from the other side of the road a further quote from him says, there were sniffer dogs and a bomb squad . asked to describe bomb squad. asked to describe the mood in the immediate aftermath, this same witness, mr

perry, said, we saw people that were in a panic running away and were in a panic running away and we saw people who were excited . we saw people who were excited. so there we have some words from an eyewitness on the scene . an eyewitness on the scene. interesting description of the suspect as he was being arrested of having his face to the floor. doesn't seem like he was being particularly proud of anything he was doing. but i suppose that's an interesting point then, for the for the police to ask more questions of course, we do not know what on earth the motive could have been here. no, absolutely. tom, thank you very— no, absolutely. tom, thank you very much.— no, absolutely. tom, thank you very much rh— no, absolutely. tom, thank you very much. i'm going to go back ho— very much. i'm going to go back ho rhetor— very much. i'm going to go back now to major general chip chehheh— now to major general chip chapman, who— now to major general chip chapman, who is the former head of counter—terrorism at the rrhhehry— of counter—terrorism at the rrhhehry or— of counter—terrorism at the ministry of defence. major eehereh— ministry of defence. major eehereh ,— ministry of defence. major general , i'll— ministry of defence. major general, i'll get you to ministry of defence. major general , i'll get you to react general, i'll get you to react to general, i'll get you to react ho wheh— general, i'll get you to react ho wheh-tueh- general, i'll get you to react to what just heard from to what we've just heard from hoh— to what we've just heard from hoh-hhere. - to what we've just heard from tom _there. the- tom harwood there. the eyewhhheee— eyewitness reaction to this hoheeh— eyewitness reaction to this incident-of— eyewitness reaction to this incident .of the - eyewitness reaction to this incident of the middle aged incident was of the middle aged gehhhg— incident was of the middle aged gehhhg ouh— incident was of the middle aged man getting out of the car, oehg— man getting out of the car, being arrested,— man getting out of the car, being arrested, head to the ground— being arrested, head to the ground ,— being arrested, head to the ground , hoh— being arrested, head to the

ground , not saying much. it ground, not saying very much. it eppeere— ground, not saying very much. it ehheere ho— ground, not saying very much. it ehheere ho he— ground, not saying very much. it ehheere ho he e— ground, not saying very much. it appears to be a little bit odd. your— appears to be a little bit odd. your reaction— appears to be a little bit odd. your reaction to— appears to be a little bit odd. your reaction to that , but also your reaction to that, but also wheh— your reaction to that, but also wheh whhh— your reaction to that, but also what will the— your reaction to that, but also what will the police be doing how— what will the police be doing hhey-hh— what will the police be doing now? they'll have found out who hhre— now? they'll have found out who he guy— now? they'll have found out who hhhe guy he. — now? they'll have found out who this guy is. presumably they'll be this guy is. presumably they'll he hoohhg— this guy is. presumably they'll be looking around his house, hehh— be looking around his house, hehh he— be looking around his house, talk me through— be looking around his house, talk me through the procedure. wehh.— talk me through the procedure. wehh. hhe— talk me through the procedure. well, the first— talk me through the procedure. well, the first thing— talk me through the procedure. well, the first thing-if- talk me through the procedure. well, the first thing-if you i well, the first thing is, if you look proximity of the look at the proximity of all the people obviously people behind it, they obviously don't think there was a bomb going there because you going to be there because you would go through what they call the confirmed clear the four c's confirmed clear cordon that was cordon control. and if that was a vehicle a bomb in it, a vehicle with a bomb in it, they'd be between 1 and 200m back. so you can't really make too much about the white middle aged man. however having said that, the last sort of right wing, if this was a thing against immigration and that would be speculation, was of course someone who was about 60. andrew at manston in andrew leach at manston in october 22nd. that was a similar age to the finsbury park attack in, i think, 2018. so you know, it could have been a medical episode. it could have been a terrorist attack. but that is the left and right of the spectrum. what i do think you

can say, because it did dribble into those gates, the police were did have courageous restraint and that is a great thing about british policing . thing about british policing. okay. look, major general, thank you very— okay. look, major general, thank you very much— okay. look, major general, thank you very much .— okay. look, major general, thank you very much . major general you very much. major general chip— you very much. major general chh chehheh— you very much. major general chip chapman, again, i'm sorry. i chip chapman, again, i'm sorry. r hhow— chip chapman, again, i'm sorry. r hhow rh— chip chapman, again, i'm sorry. i know i'm giving— chip chapman, again, i'm sorry. i know i'm giving you the long ehehe— stand here, but please stay here— stand here, but please stay hhere—gehl stand here, but please stay. hhere—geh ehy there just in case we get any developments. _ there just in case we get any developments. former of developments. former head of counter—terrorism _ developments. former head of counter—terrorism at the rrhhehry— counter—terrorism at thei ministry_ now, counter—terrorism at the- ministry_now, i'm ministry of defence now, i'm very—joined. very pleased to be joined by hhehgeh— very pleased to be joined byi hhehgeh—he very pleased to be joined by- hhehgeh—he hhe thangam debbonaire, who is the former— thangam debbonaire, who is the former eorry— thangam debbonaire, who is the former eorry ,— thangam debbonaire, who is the former eorry , he— thangam debbonaire, who is the former sorry , is the shadow former sorry, is the shadow heeher— former sorry, is the shadow heeher or— former sorry, is the shadow leader of the _ former sorry, is the shadow leader of the house of commons. hhehh— leader of the house of commons. hhehh you— leader of the house of commons. rhehh you very— leader of the house of commons. thank you very much , thangam. thank you very much, thangam. i hehheve— thank you very much, thangam. i hehheve youre— thank you very much, thangam. i believe you're there. _ thank you very much, thangam. i believe you're there. apologies. i believe you're there. apologies. r hehheve— believe you're there. apologies. i believe that— believe you're there. apologies. i believe that you— believe you're there. apologies. i believe that you are there hhehh— i believe that you are there now. thank you— i believe that you are there now. thank you very much. can i tueh— now. thank you very much. can i rueh eey— now. thank you very much. can i he eey we— now. thank you very much. can i just say we originally clearly gohhg— just say we originally clearly gohg ho— just say we originally clearly were going to have you on to hehh— were going to have you on to hehh ehouh— were going to have you on to talk about this— were going to have you on to talk about this net migration huhehre we— talk about this net migration numbers. we have been overtaken by evehhe — numbers. we have been overtaken by evehhe your— numbers. we have been overtaken by events. your reaction to this hoheeh— by events. your reaction to this hrhovhg— by events. your reaction to this in moving-there's- by events. your reaction to this inmoving there's a lot a moving picture. there's a lot of a moving picture. there's a lot or—.— a moving picture. there's a lot or—. huh— a moving picture. there's a lot or—. huh heh-e- a moving picture. there's a lot of_. but let's be. of speculation. but let's be honest,— of speculation. but let's be honest-threat- of speculation. but let's be honest, threat to our honest, the threat to our political— honest, the threat to our political-and- honest, the threat to our political and the threat political class and the threat to our— political class and the threat to mps— political class and the threat to our mps clearly is very , very to our mps clearly is very, very high. — to our mps clearly is very, very high. your— to our mps clearly is very, very high. your initial— to our mps clearly is very, very high. your initial thoughts, based— high. your initial thoughts, based on— high. your initial thoughts, based on what— high. your initial thoughts, based on what we know so far .7 based on what we know so tar.7 wen.— based on what we know so tar.7

wen. |— based on what we know so tar.7 wen. i think— based on what we know so tar.7 well, | think it's— based on what we know so tar.7 well, i think it's really- well, i think it's really important not to speculate. and my first thoughts are to- important not to speculate. and my first thoughts are to be- my first thoughts are to be relieved — my first thoughts are to be relieved that— my first thoughts are to be relieved that so— my first thoughts are to be relieved that so far it seems thee— relieved that so far it seems that nobody-e— relieved that so far it seems that nobody's been hurt, including— that nobody's been hurt, including the— that nobody's been hurt, including the driver . that nobody's been hurt, including the driver. i'm very relieved— including the driver. i'm very reuevee ee— including the driver. i'm very relieved to hear— including the driver. i'm very relieved to hear that. i know thee— relieved to hear that. i know that security— relieved to hear that. i know that security is— relieved to hear that. i know that security is top priority . that security is top priority. we— that security is top priority. we are— that security is top priority. we yer— that security is top priority. we are, you know, heavily percei— we are, you know, heavily perreee, bur— we are, you know, heavily policed, but i— we are, you know, heavily policed, but i think in a way where— policed, but i think in a way which allows— policed, but i think in a way which allows our— policed, but i think in a way which allows our democracy to confine— which allows our democracy to confine ee— which allows our democracy to continue as it— which allows our democracy to continue as it should and, you knew,— continue as it should and, you knew, rm— continue as it should and, you knew, rm just— continue as it should and, you know, i'm just as— continue as it should and, you know, i'm just as i— continue as it should and, you know, i'm just as i said, i'm glad— know, i'm just as i said, i'm glad rear— know, i'm just as i said, i'm glad that nobody's hurt and we need— glad that nobody's hurt and we need re— glad that nobody's hurt and we need re warr— glad that nobody's hurt and we need to wait and— glad that nobody's hurt and we need to wait and give the police are— need to wait and give the police are re— need to wait and give the police and the security— need to wait and give the police and the security services time to and the security services time tee-wher— and the security services time to what happened and to to review what happened and to eerebrrer— to review what happened and to establish the— to review what happened and to establish the facts— to review what happened and to establish the facts . “in?" establish the facts. yeah, no, absolutely. and as far as we are aware, according to reports, rishi sunak was indeed in at number 10 at at the time we have of course, seen some desperately sad incidents involving your colleagues from both sides of the house, jo cox and david amess, sir david amess et cetera. and thankfully, this appears to be nothing like that at this moment in time. but just at this moment in time. but just a word in general, maybe for how

you feel in terms of your personal safety as a public servant and as a member of parliament. so when you do your surgeries, for example, when you're walking around, i mean, how do you feel .7 well, i'm how do you feel? well, i'm i have to say, i feel that it's really, really important in a democracy. and we are very ferrurere— democracy. and we are very ferrurere rn— democracy. and we are very fortunate in this— and we are very fortunate in this country to ure— fortunate in this country to re re— fortunate in this country to he in e— fortunate in this country to live in a democracy , that people live in a democracy, that people do here— live in a democracy, that people do have access— live in a democracy, that people do have access to— live in a democracy, that people do have access to their member of do have access to their member or peruemerr— do have access to their member of parliament and— do have access to their member of parliament and of course, we rere— of parliament and of course, we take sensible— of parliament and of course, we take sensible precautions and you— take sensible precautions and you women-r— take sensible precautions and you wouldn't expect me to reveal wher— you wouldn't expect me to reveal weer rreee — you wouldn't expect me to reveal what those are. _ you wouldn't expect me to reveal what those are. but— you wouldn't expect me to reveal what those are. but i live in my eererrruerey. — what those are. but i live in my eererrruerey. r— what those are. but i live in my constituency. i go— what those are. but i live in my constituency. i go to shops constituency. i go to the shops in .constituency. _ constituency. i go to the shops in .constituency. i- constituency. i go to the shops in constituency. i walk in my constituency. i walk dred— in my constituency. i walk around my— in my constituency. i walk around my constituency. when i do around my constituency. when i de—ddye- around my constituency. when i de—ddre rm- around my constituency. when i de—ddre rm onl around my constituency. when i de—ddre rm er d| do constituency days, i'm on a eeredrderer— do constituency days, i'm on a constituency evening now and i'll constituency evening now and rd de— constituency evening now and rd be dereg— constituency evening now and i'll be doing four— constituency evening now and i'll be doing four events tomorrow. so _ i'll be doing four events tomorrow. so and my surgery is, is new— tomorrow. so and my surgery is, re enure— tomorrow. so and my surgery is, is now online. it— tomorrow. so and my surgery is, is now online. it has been since rre— is now online. it has been since dre corro— is now online. it has been since the covm crisis. _ is now online. it has been since the covid crisis. but i go to evened— the covid crisis. but i go to erener ,— the covid crisis. but i go to evened, r— the covid crisis. but i go to events , i speak— the covid crisis. but i go to events , i speak at events. i you events, i speak at events. i you knew— events, i speak at events. i you knew ,— events, i speak at events. i you knew , r— events, i speak at events. i you know , i attend— events, i speak at events. i you know , i attend various various know, i attend various various minde— know, i attend various various rndnde. r— know, i attend various various rnrnge. r need— know, i attend various various things. i meet constituents all the things. i meet constituents all rne nne.— things. i meet constituents all rne dne. and— things. i meet constituents all the time. and i— things. i meet constituents all the time. and i think it's really— the time. and i think it's really important that we have eenedrde— really important that we have sensible precautions , but that sensible precautions, but that people— sensible precautions, but that people dre— sensible precautions, but that people are allowed to have access to their— people are allowed to have access to their member of

pdrddnenr. — access to their member of parliament. that's an important part— parliament. that's an important nen-dend— parliament. that's an important nen-nen re— part of their right to scrutinise- part of their right to scrutinise what i do in their and— scrutinise what i do in their name. and this— scrutinise what i do in their name. and this incident, endorsin— name. and this incident, obviously, you- name. and this incident, obviously, you know, you mentioned— obviously, you know, you mentioned in— obviously, you know, you mentioned in the murders of our dear— mentioned in the murders of our dear colleagues— mentioned in the murders of our dear colleagues ,— mentioned in the murders of our dear colleagues , jo cox and dear colleagues, jo cox and dend— dear colleagues, jo cox and david amess— dear colleagues, jo cox and david amess and i am relieved to see david amess and i am relieved to rndr— david amess and i am relieved to rndr rne— david amess and i am relieved to see that this doesn't seem to be the see that this doesn't seem to be rne edee— see that this doesn't seem to be rne rn— see that this doesn't seem to be the case in this— see that this doesn't seem to be the case in this situation . it the case in this situation. it eree,— the case in this situation. it eree, er— the case in this situation. it also, of course,— the case in this situation. it also, of course, brings back rer— also, of course, brings back memories for some of us of the 22nd— memories for some of us of the 22nd er— memories for some of us of the 22nd of march— memories for some of us of the 22nd of march 2017, when another pereon— 22nd of march 2017, when another nereen dedded— 22nd of march 2017, when another person decided to— 22nd of march 2017, when another person decided to use a car, wnen— person decided to use a car, wnen d— person decided to use a car, wnen d pereon— person decided to use a car, when a person did decide to use a car as a weapon. now we don't knew— a car as a weapon. now we don't knew rndr— a car as a weapon. now we don't know that that's— a car as a weapon. now we don't know that that's what happened nee.— know that that's what happened nere. r— know that that's what happened nere. r den-r— know that that's what happened here. i don't want— know that that's what happened here. i don't want speculate here. i don't want to speculate end— here. i don't want to speculate end-dend— here. i don't want to speculate end-den-r-re- here. i don't want to speculate and-don't-to add| and i really don't want to add to and i really don't want to add re rne— and i really don't want to add to the speculation. but it i wink,— to the speculation. but it i rndnk, wew— to the speculation. but it i think, you know, i think it's rneenenr— think, you know, i think it's rneendnr rn— think, you know, i think it's important in a— think, you know, i think it's important in a democracy that rnerneer— important in a democracy that rnerneer er— important in a democracy that members of the— important in a democracy that members of the public have safe and reasonable— members of the public have safe and reasonable access to their rnerneer— members of parliament. oewewekw— members of parliament. obviously, doesn't that's obviously, that doesn't that's not limitless.— obviously, that doesn't that's not limitless. they're not dkkewed— not limitless. they're not dkkewed re— not limitless. they're not allowed to be— not limitless. they're not allowed to be violent to us, but we den-r— allowed to be violent to us, but we den-r knew— allowed to be violent to us, but we don't know whether that's wndr— we don't know whether that's we we— we don't know whether that's what was intended in this case yet what was intended in this case we . — what was intended in this case we . we.— what was intended in this case yer . we. ne— what was intended in this case yet . \rr:::r twine ct yet. no, no, absolutely. i'll tell you one thing that we do know, though, tongham, that know, though, tongham, is that yet force yet again, our police force appears have acted swiftly appears to have acted swiftly and, very, very reserved. and, yes, very, very reserved. measured, measured, actually , i

measured, measured, actually, i must say, a lot of the initial comments there were from people who were quite confused as to how an individual had managed to do this without there being a more heavy handed police response. and clearly the police here doing everything to keep everyone appears no one everyone safe. it appears no one seems to be injured. the police have up cordon very, very have put up a cordon very, very quickly we understand it, quickly as we understand it, rishi was evacuated quite rishi sunak was evacuated quite quickly as well. touch wood. so far seems to be a very smooth police operation, a word for our security forces, please. tongham well, obviously, i mean, i pay rnewe— well, obviously, i mean, i pay rnewe re— well, obviously, i mean, i pay tribute to them.— well, obviously, i mean, i pay tribute to them. they are men end— tribute to them. they are men and women who— tribute to them. they are men and women who every day come to werk— and women who every day come to werk, eur— and women who every day come to work, put themselves in possible dander— work, put themselves in possible dender .— work, put themselves in possible dander . and— work, put themselves in possible danger . and thankfully, most danger. and thankfully, most dwe— danger. and thankfully, most days were— danger. and thankfully, most days that's not— danger. and thankfully, most days that's not part of what derwdw— days that's not part of what actually happens. but they come to actually happens. but they come re werk— actually happens. but they come to work prepared— actually happens. but they come to work prepared to put themselves— to work prepared to put themselves in danger, to guard rneee— themselves in danger, to guard rneee er— themselves in danger, to guard rneee er we— themselves in danger, to guard those of us keep— themselves in danger, to guard those of us keep those of us ede— those of us keep those of us safe wne— those of us keep those of us safe who have— those of us keep those of us safe who have been elected democratically— safe who have been elected democratically by the to democratically by the people to keen— democratically by the people toi keen —ewekde keep the members of the public sere— keep the members of the public ene-ceme— keep the members of the public safe .come and _ keep the members of the public safe come and exercise their safe who come and exercise their new— safe who come and exercise their ndnr re— safe who come and exercise their right to scrutinise— safe who come and exercise their right to scrutinise what we do. i pay— right to scrutinise what we do. r pay rud— right to scrutinise what we do. i pay full tribute— right to scrutinise what we do. i pay full tribute to the police end— i pay full tribute to the police end-eeewnw— i pay full tribute to the police and security forces and

and to the security forces and eeewnw— and to the security forces and security services. _ and to the security forces and security services. i know security services. and i know rner— security services. and i know rner rnew— security services. and i know that they will— security services. and i know that they will be _ security services. and i know that they will be reviewing very eererwkw— that they will be reviewing very carefully what's— that they will be reviewing very carefully what's happened today. but carefully what's happened today. err-dre— carefully what's happened today. but-are incredible- carefully what's happened today. but are incredible for what but they are incredible for what rnew— but they are incredible for what new de. — but they are incredible for what they do. there's— but they are incredible for what they do. there's not a goes they do. there's not a day goes by war— they do. there's not a day goes by rndrlden-r— they do. there's not a day goes by thatidon't think- they do. there's not a day goes by that don't think of. pc by that i don't think of. pc kenn— by that i don't think of. pc keith palmer— by that i don't think of. pc keith palmer and the memorial ewredde— keith palmer and the memorial outside parliament. he's the endeer— outside parliament. he's the endeer wne— outside parliament. he's the officer who died— outside parliament. he's the officer who died protecting edrddnenr— officer who died protecting parliament in— officer who died protecting parliament in 2017. and i think it's parliament in 2017. and i think we wew— parliament in 2017. and i think it's very important that we do pav— it's very important that we do pay ew— it's very important that we do pay reeeeere— it's very important that we do pay our respects to those who eewe— pay our respects to those who serve because _ pay our respects to those who serve because they put themselves— serve because they put themselves in the line of danger every— themselves in the line of danger ewew ende— themselves in the line of danger ewew erngke dew— themselves in the line of danger every single day to— themselves in the line of danger every single day to keep us ene.— every single day to keep us safe. and— every single day to keep us safe. and r— every single day to keep us safe. and i thank them for it. wed— safe. and i thank them for it. wed wew— safe. and i thank them for it. red very neen.— safe. and i thank them for it. you very much, actually,- safe. and i thank them for it. you very much, actually, for getting in touch with us. of course , and being a part of this course, and being a part of this show and discussing this incident for us as thangam debbonaire, who's the shadow leader of the house of commons, paying leader of the house of commons, paying our security paying tribute to our security services just services and also just discussing like to be discussing what it's like to be a politician in this and a politician in this day and age. i'm going to fill you in now in case you are now quickly, in case you are just joining us. am looking at just joining us. i am looking at images, and so are you, of a car, a hatchback that has driven into gates outside downing into the gates outside downing street. now to street. i'm going to go now to paul hawkins , who is our paul hawkins, who is our national and

national reporter and i understand that paul is joined by an eyewitness to this incident. paul . he will not come incident. paul. he will not come back and give you . yeah, hi, back and give you. yeah, hi, patrick. i don't— back and give you. yeah, hi, patrick. i don't know- back and give you. yeah, hi, patrick. i don't know if- f e“: g yeah, hi, patrick. i don't know if i f tr: g yeah, hi, patrick. i don't know if i can't near— patrick. i don't know if i can't neer wew— patrick. i don't know if i can't hear you anymore. i'm just going to hear you anymore. i'm just going re prek— hear you anymore. i'm just going re pick up— hear you anymore. i'm just going re pick up he...— hear you anymore. i'm just going to pick up here, just show you wnee— to pick up here, just show you wnere we— to pick up here, just show you where we are at— to pick up here, just show you where we are at the moment. so rnere-e— where we are at the moment. so rnere-e rne— where we are at the moment. so there's the front— where we are at the moment. so there's the front gates of newndnd— there's the front gates of downing street. there are the various camera— downing street. there are the. various camera—have various camera crews that have set various camera crews that have eer-deeme- various camera crews that havej set-distance,-you set up in the distance, and you een-rnrewdn- set up in the distance, and you can _through the - set up in the distance, and you can through the moving can see just through the moving warne— can see just through the moving wank—newe- traffic here. so they have reeeened— traffic here. so they havei reopened—road. traffic here. so they have. reopened—road. traffic here. so they have- reopened_road. you reopened part of the road. you dance-r were- reopened part of the road. you can-car there in- reopened part of the road. you can _car there in front. can see the car there in front of the gate. you can speak to sdnen— of the gate. you can speak to sdnen nwe— of the gate. you can speak to simon now, who— 3 you can speak to simon now, who many campaign greene— simon now, who many campaign groups-stationed- groups that are stationed ewredde— groups that are stationed outside downing for outside downing street for wdnewee-s- outside downing street for various-so just. outside downing street for various so just first of various causes. so just first of alb— various causes. so just first of ed, iner— various causes. so just first of ed, just-what- various causes. so just first of all, just what happened all, just explain what happened edrder. — all, just explain what happened earlier. _we're- all, just explain what happened earlier. _we're still. earlier. okay. so we're still bucha. you can see over there came from here, which we're about to mod, and the united nafions about to mod, and the united nations have been marching on the streets today. so we saw un going there and basically we police very quick to police were very quick to respond. children away respond. children ran away panicking . we in panicking. we ran over in excitement, almost with the cameras, which you just shared. we footage clever army on we footage on box clever army on telegram and then it wasn't long

before the police had him out of the vehicle face down. we were pointing tasers at him. it maybe three minutes. it was like ten, 12 police vehicles. and the car did off the area. we tried to get us of here, but we said get us out of here, but we said we'd here eight weeks. we'd been here eight weeks. we ain't moving. had a bit ain't moving. and you had a bit of laugh with him. and you of a laugh with him. and you know, said, if there is bomb of a laugh with him. and you kno andiid, if there is bomb of a laugh with him. and you kno and iti, if there is bomb of a laugh with him. and you kno and it goes|ere is bomb of a laugh with him. and you kno and it goes off, is bomb of a laugh with him. and you kno and it goes off, well, romb of a laugh with him. and you kno and it goes off, well, been out and it goes off, well, been on the front line war. and on the front line of a war. and then dogs and bomb then there was dogs and bomb disposal team and did see disposal team and did you see the actual vehicle as it came from because from the side entrance because you've metropol police you've got the metropol police were behind us, there were just behind us, just there . well . so what i saw, . yeah. as well. so what i saw, i was sat in that chair there. as soon as i heard the bang, i jumped to my feet. so obviously a lot press had been coming a lot of press had been coming in cordoned in here when it was cordoned off. woman showed me off. and the woman showed me a video on from a cctv camera up there it showed the vehicle there and it showed the vehicle comes straight the road comes straight across the road from the car at here and from the car park at here and just went across. it seemed to slow down a little bit before it hit gate, whether was hit the gate, whether it was avoiding or not, it's avoiding children or not, it's always and when you always very busy. and when you just there was lots of just like there was lots of shouting security . yeah,

shouting, the security. yeah, the police very loud. when something like goes on the very dominant and shouting in there, pointing guns , their taser guns pointing guns, their taser guns with yellow taser guns not with machine guns. i didn't notice the machine guns. it a the machine guns. it was a yellow guns. okay okay. yellow taser. guns. okay okay. and how were you— [its (de/{pg okay. and how were you feeling ? [ifs okay. and how were you feeling ? t and how were you feeling? it's exdrenenr— and how were you feeling? it's exdeenenr .— and how were you feeling? it's excitement . it's.— and how were you feeling? it's excitement. it's. i've- and how were you feeling? it's excitement . it's. i've been here excitement. it's. i've been here eight weeks. it's never a dull moment. we have parties here. we have music we're have live music here. we're trying have world's trying to have the world's largest well, largest pillow fight as well, which at the moment 7618. which at the moment is 7618. and i the police are going to i reckon the police are going to join in and yeah, it's never a dull moment. so for me, all i wanted to do is get as close to the action as i could with the camera. sure. and did you see wnen— camera. sure. and did you see wnen rne— camera. sure. and did you see when the police— camera. sure. and did you see when the police got- f sure. and did you see when the police got the guy out of when the police got the guy out er-edr— when the police got the guy out er-edr ,— when the police got the guy out er-edr , wner— when the police got the guy out of-car , what did— when the police got the guy out of car , what did he look of the car, what did he look kdkee— of the car, what did he look kdkee-eeen— of the car, what did he look like? seem scared or of the car, what did he look- like?-seem scared or not? like? did he seem scared or not? kedwe— like? did he seem scared or not? keekwe ne— like? did he seem scared or not? really? we twee— like? did he seem scared or not? really? he just he— like? did he seem scared or not? really? he just he just— like? did he seem scared or not? really? he just he just seemed almost like motionless, emotionless, and then , like, emotionless, and then, like, escorted him about ten yards that way. and i got a video of him going across. he was he was white, grey, straggly hair, white, grey, straggly hair, white t shirt. he didn't look like a terrorist. he didn't look like a terrorist. he didn't look like a terrorist. he didn't look like a businessman. he looked like a businessman. he looked

like someone is going through difficult probably had difficult times and probably had enough government. he enough of a government. he wasn't being difficult with the police, not really, no. once they he just they got him face down, he just like wasn't shouting. he like he wasn't shouting. he wasn't , he wasn't wasn't screaming, he wasn't erratic. he just kind of like acknowledged done, acknowledged what he'd done, got on took his on the floor and took his so—called punishment for it. really talking really appreciate you talking to us. thanks for that quite vivid deeeneden. — us. thanks for that quite vivid description. so— c9 thanks for that quite vivid description. so thank you very neen—were- description. so thank you very. much _that's simon, much for that. so that's simon, wne-e—eeeekei who's one of the many people rner— who's one of the many people that—outside- who's one of the many people. that—outside downing that are camped outside downing sneer.— that are camped outside downing sneer—end- that are camped outside downing sneer—end rnei street. he saw it happen and the eeewnw— street. he saw it happen and the security operation— street. he saw it happen and the security operation ,— street. he saw it happen and the security operation , it's been security operation, it's been seeded— security operation, it's been scaled back— security operation, it's been scaled back and— security operation, it's been scaled back and they've reopened the scaled back and they've reopened rne reed— scaled back and they've reopened rne reed new— scaled back and they've reopened the road now. but— scaled back and they've reopened the road now. but the car is end— the road now. but the car is edd n— the road now. but the car is still in front— the road now. but the car is still in front of— the road now. but the car is still in front of the gates as rne— still in front of the gates as the investigation continues. rdrrdek— the investigation continues. patrick paul— the investigation continues. patrick paul hawkins, there on nedend— patrick paul hawkins, there on national reporter— patrick paul hawkins, there on national reporter on downing sneer— national reporter on downing sneer wdrn— national reporter on downing street with an _ national reporter on downing street with an eyewitness to rne— street with an eyewitness to this particular— street with an eyewitness to this particular event. interesting, _ this particular event. interesting, isn't- this particular event. interesting, isn't it- this particular event. interesting, isn't it , to say interesting, isn't it, to say that the general mood there was one of excitement . i can imagine one of excitement. i can imagine that this very easily could have had a different atmosphere, had things taken a turn for the worse , as yet more questions worse, as yet more questions unanswered than answered from this incident. if you're just joining us, a hatchback vehicle drove into the gates outside

downing street. one man believed to be a middle aged white male, has been arrested as yet on suspicion of dangerous driving and criminal damage. suspicion of dangerous driving and criminal damage . i should and criminal damage. i should say. i just want to reiterate again, there appears to be, as yet no indication of this being a terror attack. the police are not treating it as terror related. rishi sunak was believed to have been in downing street at the time a motorcade understood to have been that of our prime ministers was seen leaving from the other end of downing street. the cctv footage, which shows the incident, shows a car pulling out of potentially the ministry of defence. gates so certainly somewhere nearby , way past the somewhere nearby, way past the cenotaph and then into very slowly the gates of downing street at a couple of miles an hour where one arrest was made. and the police are not commenting ing any further on the matter as it currently stands. however near the cordon

around downing street is starting to be lifted and people are continuing to go about their business as usual, which would strongly indicate that the situation is dying down. make sure you stay tuned into gb news for the all the very latest on this major breaking incident of a car hitting the gates of downing street . and one arrest downing street. and one arrest been made. thank you very much for everybody who's been watching and tuning in, i'm patrick christys and this is gb news, the people's .

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