it's thursday night and this is farage at large live from peterborough. please farage at large live from peterborough . please welcome peterborough. please welcome your— peterborough. please welcome your host,— peterborough. please welcome your host, nigel— jmidi ” g " please welcome your host, nigel farage. 3�*le ” g .; please welcome your host, nigel farage. good evening. — your host, nigel farage. good evening. we're— your host, nigel farage. good evening. we're in- your host, nigel farage. good evening. ”c: i f evening. we're in peterborough. we've got the local mp, paul bristow , who was kicked out of bristow, who was kicked out of the house of commons yesterday. wildly enthusiastic audience with so much to discuss population pressures in this city on housing, on health, on schools are very real. we're going to havo— schools are very real. we're going to have a— schools are very real. we're going to have a big- f mi; wig ”chi we're going to have a big open debate wm.— going to have a big open debate with ou— going to have a big open debate with our audience. but before all with our audience. but before on of— with our audience. but before all of that, let's get the news

with polly middlehurst . thank with polly middlehurst. thank you, nigel. good 3: thank you, nigel. good evening. the top story— you, nigel. good evening. the rop orory ro— you, nigel. good evening. the top story is that— you, nigel. good evening. the top story is that a— you, nigel. good evening. the top story is that a man has been orrooroo— top story is that a man has been arrested after— top story is that a man has been arrested after a _ top story is that a man has been arrested after a car— top story is that a man has been arrested after a car crashed inro— arrested after a car crashed rrrro rho— arrested after a car crashed into the gates— arrested after a car crashed into the gates of downing smor— into the gates of downing street. this— into the gates of downing street. this afternoon. armed orrrooro— street. this afternoon. armed officers arrested _ street. this afternoon. armed officers arrested the man on suspicion— officers arrested the man on suspicion of— officers arrested the man on suspicion of criminal damage and dangerous— suspicion of criminal damage and dangerous driving.— suspicion of criminal damage and dangerous driving. the incident is nor— dangerous driving. the incident is nor using— dangerous driving. the incident is not being treated as terror roioroo. — is not being treated as terror related. well— is not being treated as terror related. well footage obtained by related. well footage obtained iy oo— related. well footage obtained iy so nous— related. well footage obtained by gb news shows officers dragging— by gb news shows officers dragging ino— by gb news shows officers dragging the suspect out of the car dragging the suspect out of the unri— dragging the suspect out of the and non— dragging the suspect out of the car and then handcuffing him. roos— car and then handcuffing him. rose gonn— car and then handcuffing him. face down on— car and then handcuffing him. face down on the— car and then handcuffing him. face down on the ground. the area was immediately cordoned off, area was immediately cordoned ori nur— area was immediately cordoned off, but whitehall— area was immediately cordoned off, but whitehall has now been roononoo— off, but whitehall has now been roononoo .— off, but whitehall has now been reopened . there— off, but whitehall has now been reopened . there are no reports reopened. there are no reports of reopened. there are no reports or ony— reopened. there are no reports or any iniurios— reopened. there are no reports of any injuries. and we understand— of any injuries. and we understand an eyewitness gave his understand an eyewitness gave nis accoun— understand an eyewitness gave nis oooounr or— understand an eyewitness gave his account of what happened to our his account of what happened to nonorror— his account of what happened to rogonor on— his account of what happened to our reporter on the— his account of what happened to our reporter on the scene . our reporter on the scene. rouse— our reporter on the scene. roiioo wors— our reporter on the scene. police were very- our reporter on the scene. police were very quick- our reporter on the scene. police were very quick to respond. children ran away panicking. we ran over in excitement almost with the cameras. it wasn't long before the police had him out of a

vehicle, face down. we were pointing tasers at him. maybe three minutes. was like ten, three minutes. it was like ten, 12 police vehicles. and it just seemed almost like motionless , seemed almost like motionless, emotionless, and then like escorted him about ten yards that way. and i got a video of him going across. he was he was white, grey, straggly hair. well, in other news today, number ten has refused calls for rishi sunak to apologise, despite failing to reduce net migration , which has now risen migration, which has now risen to record levels. ons data roioosoo— to record levels. ons data released today— f: ons data released today shows migration nusrnori— released today shows migration numbers rose to— released today shows migration numbers rose to 606,000 last you.— numbers rose to 606,000 last your. roen— numbers rose to 606,000 last year. even after— numbers rose to 606,000 last year. even after repeated governnonr— year. even after repeated government pledges to bring ovoroii— government pledges to bring overall numbers— government pledges to bring overall numbers down. immigration- overall numbers down. immigration minister robert jenrick_ immigration minister robert jenrick says— immigration minister robert jenrick says the government will keep — jenrick says the government will keep us— jenrick says the government will keep its promise.— jenrick says the government will keep its promise. net migration is for— keep its promise. net migration is for roo— keep its promise. net migration is for roo nign.— keep its promise. net migration is far too high. _ keep its promise. net migration is far too high. .; m g is far too high. this is placing intolerable pressure on public services, on housing supply and our ability to integrate people. we've made a very significant intervention this week which will make a tangible difference reducing the number of student

dependents that come to our universities because universities because universities should be in the education business, not the immigration business. s rishi sunak has welcomed the reduction in the energy price cap, describing it as a major milestone towards his goal of halving inflation. ofgem has announced the— halving inflation. ofgem has announced the typical- g ofgem has announced the typical annual nousonoio— announced the typical annual household energy bill will fall to household energy bill will fall o o— household energy bill will fall to a maximum— household energy bill will fall to a maximum of— household energy bill will fall to a maximum of £2,074 a year from— to a maximum of £2,074 a year non july— to a maximum of £2,074 a year non july inor— to a maximum of £2,074 a year from july that is— to a maximum of £2,074 a year from july that is a— to a maximum of £2,074 a year from july that is a drop of size. — from july that is a drop of size. orgon— from july that is a drop of £426. ofgem says the first price drop— £426. ofgem says the first price drop in— £426. ofgem says the first price drop in is— £426. ofgem says the first price drop in 18 months— £426. ofgem says the first price drop in 18 months reflects rosonr— drop in 18 months reflects recent falls— drop in 18 months reflects recent falls in— drop in 18 months reflects recent falls in wholesale energy prises— recent falls in wholesale energy grisos .— recent falls in wholesale energy grioos . non— recent falls in wholesale energy prices. now nine— recent falls in wholesale energy prices. now nine people recent falls in wholesale energy prices . now nine people have prices. now nine people have noon— prices. now nine people have been arrested— prices. now nine people have been arrested over the disorder in corin— been arrested over the disorder in cardiff that— been arrested over the disorder in cardiff that followed the deans— in cardiff that followed the ooorns or— in cardiff that followed the deaths of two— in cardiff that followed the deaths of two teenagers on monday— deaths of two teenagers on monday evening . 16 year old monday evening. 16 year old syroos— monday evening. 16 year old kyrees sullivan— monday evening. 16 year old kyrees sullivan and 15 year old honey— kyrees sullivan and 15 year old nonoy ivons— kyrees sullivan and 15 year old harvey evans were killed in the ely harvey evans were killed in the iiy arso— harvey evans were killed in the iiy or— harvey evans were killed in the ely area of the— harvey evans were killed in the ely area of the city while they rising— ely area of the city while they were riding an— ely area of the city while they were riding an e—bike . the were riding an e—bike. the poiioo— were riding an e—bike. the police watchdog is investigating snor— police watchdog is investigating orror corv— police watchdog is investigating after cctv footage emerged snowing — after cctv footage emerged snowing o— after cctv footage emerged showing a police van following the showing a police van following in roons— showing a police van following in roons iusr—

showing a police van following the teens just before their ooorns— the teens just before their ooorns .— the teens just before their ooorns . is— the teens just before their deaths . 15 officers were injured deaths. 15 officers were injured oni— deaths. 15 officers were injured and ss— deaths. 15 officers were injured and cars were— deaths. 15 officers were injured and cars were set— deaths. 15 officers were injured and cars were set alight in the nignr— and cars were set alight in the nignr or— and cars were set alight in the night of violence— and cars were set alight in the night of violence that followed . air— night of violence that followed . aii nine— night of violence that followed . all nine people— night of violence that followed . all nine people remain in susrooiy— . all nine people remain in susrooiy on— . all nine people remain in custody on suspicion of rioting . anoi— custody on suspicion of rioting . no snow— custody on suspicion of rioting . ano rinoiiy ,— custody on suspicion of rioting . and finally , police in . and finally, police in ronugoi— . and finally, police in portugal have confirmed the searches near— portugal have confirmed the searches near a— portugal have confirmed the searches near a reservoir in onion— searches near a reservoir in roiorion ro— searches near a reservoir in relation to the— searches near a reservoir in relation to the disappearance of woooioino— relation to the disappearance of madeleine mccann have officially sonsiuoiooi— madeleine mccann have officially concluded. now— madeleine mccann have officially concluded. now portuguese, sermon— concluded. now portuguese, sonnon oni— concluded. now portuguese, german and british police orrioors— german and british police officers have— german and british police officers have been investigating in o— officers have been investigating in o rornoor— officers have been investigating in a remote area— officers have been investigating in a remote area near the organs— in a remote area near the algarve coastal- in a remote area near the algarve coastal resort where woooioino— algarve coastal resort where madeleine first— algarve coastal resort where madeleine first went missing 16 yous— madeleine first went missing 16 years ago.— madeleine first went missing 16 yoors ago. a— madeleine first went missing 16 years ago. a source close to the inwosrigorion— years ago. a source close to the investigation says— years ago. a source close to the investigation says there is norning— investigation says there is norning ro— investigation says there is nothing to report . after three nothing to report. after three days— nothing to report. after three days or— nothing to report. after three days of intense— nothing to report. after three days of intense searches , the days of intense searches, the ournoririos— days of intense searches, the authorities are _ days of intense searches, the authorities are now sending any nororiois— authorities are now sending any materials found— authorities are now sending any materials found at the site for rosring— materials found at the site for rosring .— materials found at the site for testing . you're— materials found at the site for testing . you're up to date on testing. you're up to date on iv,— testing. you're up to date on iv, oniino— testing. you're up to date on iv, oniino ,— testing. you're up to date on tv, online , dab+- testing. you're up to date on tv, online , dab+ radio and on tv, online, dab+ radio and on ino— tv, online, dab+ radio and on in runs— tv, online, dab+ radio and on in runs in— tv, online, dab+ radio and on in runs in opp.— tv, online, dab+ radio and on the tune in app. this is gb wows— the tune in app. this is gb news, britain's— the tune in app. this is gb news, britain's news channel. anoi— news, britain's news channel. and is— news, britain's news channel. and is good— news, britain's news channel. and it's good evening, peterborough .

peterborough. wou- peterborough. well we're here tonight peterborough.— well we're here tonight live nororiorougn.— well we're here tonight live in rororiorougn— well we're here tonight live in peterborough now in political reins— peterborough now in political terms, peterborough is fascinating— terms, peterborough is fascinating . crir terms, peterborough is fascinating. crir f terms, peterborough is fascinating . cirir f terms, peterborough is- fascinating . go back to about fascinating. go back to about 1970 and you'll see it's labour , tory, labour, tory, labour, tory. and that's been the case for the last few elections too. it is currently held by paul bristow, a conservative member of parliament. but it's one of those seats, whichever way peterborough goes, it's likely that's the way the country will go too. and i have to tell you, when we chose this date of may the 25th, we had absolutely no idea that the government migration figures for last year were going to be out. but they do say in life that you make your luck . this city is your own luck. this city is growing more quickly than any other in the country. and so when it comes to population pressure , pressure on housing pressure, pressure on housing pressure, pressure on housing pressure on health pressure on school places , as i think people school places, as i think people in peterborough know, a fair bit

about this already. in peterborough know, a fair bit about this already . and that is about this already. and that is why these numbers that have come out today are such a shock. yes of course, the number 10 spinners were briefing . it could spinners were briefing. it could be as high as a million so that when it comes in at just over 600,000, we're supposed to say it's not too bad, is it.7 remind ourselves that from windrush at the end of the 40s to the end of a century, arnie net migration was normally about 30,000 a yeah was normally about 30,000 a year. it's spun out of control under tony blair and labour, but then we had david cameron in 2010 promising us net migration of tens of thousands a year. he promised the same in 2015, when theresa may said she'd cut the numbers in 2017 and david and bofis numbers in 2017 and david and boris johnson in 2019 talked about an australian style points system which we all took to mean it would be very tough to get in. you'd have to bring your own health insurance with you. and the whole idea was to control immigration. the whole idea was to control immigration . well, with these immigration. well, with these numbers today , since the

numbers today, since the conservatives took power net migration into britain is over. 3.5 million, 3.5 million. our population has risen by 8 million since 2001, and 85% of thatis million since 2001, and 85% of that is directly down to immigration. nobody on gb news or anywhere else is not saying that vast numbers of people that have come have been great people and actually wanted to work. unlike the 4 million british people who are being paid unemployment benefit and don't seem to want to work . but we seem to want to work. but we cannot sustain a population rising as rapidly as this. it's simply doesn't work. i don't even believe there's now an economic benefit to this either . so i think what we're seeing , . so i think what we're seeing, frankly, from the tories and from labour is a great immigration lie. they tell us at elections is what they want us to hear. but they never actually really arnie mean it now ,

really arnie mean it now, talking of making your own luck, there's one member of parliament who's become rather well known in the last 24 hours. this is what happened in the house of commons just after midday yesterday. keir commons just after midday yesterday . keir starmer mr yesterday. keir starmer mr spoowon — yesterday. keir starmer mr spoowon ir— yesterday. keir starmer mr speaker, if anyone- 35; keir starmer mr speaker, if anyone wants to see wnor— speaker, if anyone wants to see what uncontrolled _ speaker, if anyone wants to see what uncontrolled immigration iooks— what uncontrolled immigration ioows rins— what uncontrolled immigration looks like, all— what uncontrolled immigration looks like, all they've got to do is— looks like, all they've got to do is wows— looks like, all they've got to do is woke up— looks like, all they've got to do is wake up tomorrow morning. iisron— do is wake up tomorrow morning. iisron ro— do is wake up tomorrow morning. iisron ro ino— do is wake up tomorrow morning. listen to the headlines and see wnor— listen to the headlines and see wnor inis— listen to the headlines and see what this government. order! onion — what this government. order! onion irr— what this government. order! order! mr bristow,- what this government. order! order! mr bristow, i- what this government. order! order! mr bristow, i think you're going to be leaving . order! mr bristow, i think you're going to be leaving. i'm asking you to leave now, because otherwise i'll name you . i'm not otherwise i'll name you. i'm not having it. and i've warned you before. it's the same people . before. it's the same people. all and the same will happen on this side . all and the same will happen on this side. keir all and the same will happen on this side . keir starmer mr this side. keir starmer mr speaken this side. keir starmer mr speaker, the reason they're issuing so many visas is labour. well, the mp that was booted out of well, the mp that was booted out or ino— well, the mp that was booted out of the chamber— well, the mp that was booted out of the chamber of— well, the mp that was booted out of the chamber of the house of oornrnons— of the chamber of the house of commons yesterday was the member of commons yesterday was the member or roriiononr— commons yesterday was the member of parliament for— commons yesterday was the member of parliament for peterborough. inur— of parliament for peterborough. roui orisrow,— of parliament for peterborough. paul bristow, and— of parliament for peterborough. paul bristow, and he joins me

now. are now. i are you the sort of back of the sus— are you the sort of back of the sioss iour— are you the sort of back of the class lout in— are you the sort of back of the class lout in parliament? is inor— class lout in parliament? is inor wnor— class lout in parliament? is inor wnor ir— class lout in parliament? is that what it is? - class lout in parliament? is that what it is? rwy c that what it is? why is it always me? well there may be a reason for this. i don't know. you know, look, to be honest, i do. sledge a bit. i'm not going to lie. i do. sledge a bit, but i don't think i'm the biggest offender in the house. and but unfortunately, i think i caught his eye. and look, when the speaker tells leave, it's speaker tells you to leave, it's the do. you the right thing to do. you better leave. but as you can imagine, my phone went a bit better leave. but as you can imagand my phone went a bit better leave. but as you can imagand ity phone went a bit better leave. but as you can imagand i am hone went a bit better leave. but as you can imagand i am aine went a bit better leave. but as you can imagand i am a bitwent a bit better leave. but as you can imagand i am a bit embarrassed wild and i am a bit embarrassed about it. i have apologised to him, but so what actually said him, but so what i actually said was he said, let me tell was when he said, let me tell you about uncontrolled immigration, what you about uncontrolled inlooksttion, what you about uncontrolled inlooks like. what you about uncontrolled inlooks like. i what you about uncontrolled inlooks like. i shouted, what it looks like. i shouted, yelled, labour. so that's yelled, vote labour. so that's why was that's what i was why i was that's what i was booted out for. so what you meant then, paul bristow was the numbers meant then, paul bristow was the numthabour. well, they've got under labour. well, they've got an under labour. well, they've got on open— under labour. well, they've got on open door— under labour. well, they've got an open door borders- c.r:i well, they've got an open door borders policy. weir.— an open door borders policy. wsii. you— an open door borders policy. well, you have— an open door borders policy. well, you have to. _ an open door borders policy. well, you have to. well,- an open door borders policy. well, you have to. well, we're trying you know, the numbers trying to, you know, the numbers are too high. there's no are far too high. there's no doubt don't you tell

doubt about it. don't you tell me. numbers too high. me. numbers are far too high. vou— me. numbers are far too high. you know,— me. numbers are far too high. you know, i— me. numbers are far too high. you know, i see— numbers are far too high. you know, i see government ninisrors— you know, i see government ministers rishi— you know, i see government ministers rishi saying ministers rishi sunak saying the pressure—is- pressure on public services is unsustainable.— pressure on public services is unsustainable. well, i've been rowing— unsustainable. well, i've been roiiing inon— unsustainable. well, i've been telling them-for- unsustainable. well, i've been telling them for years telling them that for 20 years as telling them that for 20 years os-uon-s— telling them that for 20 years as-don't disagree- telling them that for 20 yearsi as-don't disagree with as well. i don't disagree with you. i think peterborough is you. and i think peterborough is a immigration has a city where immigration has benefited peterborough in many ways, also huge ways, but it also puts a huge amount pressure public amount of pressure on public services and on local housing needs. yes. so look, i completely with and completely agree with you and i think today, hopefully it's a shock a lot us need. shock that a lot of us need. we're going to if we break down some of those figures, at least 170 or so, thousand of them are people from ukraine or from hong kong given kong people. we've given visas to. anyone's to. i don't think anyone's seriously that we seriously suggesting that we shouldn't supported those shouldn't have supported those people. something, shouldn't have supported those petthe. something, shouldn't have supported those petthe way, something, shouldn't have supported those petthe way, the something, shouldn't have supported those petthe way, the veryromething, shouldn't have supported those petthe way, the very peopletg, shouldn't have supported those petthe way, the very people who by the way, the very people who sit there and say this country is intolerant, it's racist, all this nonsense we're this sort of nonsense, we're actually such actually we're giving such a fantastic support to those people we've people fleeing conflict. we've allowed half a million people in as refugees since the as genuine refugees since the referendum. so the idea that we're somehow— referendum. so the idea that we're somehow mean- ii;�*"ri;”ri;r: so the idea that we're somehow mean spirited ii;�*"ri;”ri;r:c so the idea that we're somehow mean spirited is for-birds— we're somehow mean spirited is for-birds .— we're somehow mean spirited is for-birds. i— we're somehow mean spirited is for-birds. i agree- we're somehow mean spirited is for birds. i agree you. for the birds. i agree with you. our— for the birds. i agree with you. our-soo— for the birds. i agree with you. our-see ino— for the birds. i agree with you. but-see the point- for the birds. i agree with you. but see the point i'm but you see the point i'm nosing.— but you see the point i'm making. paul— but you see the point i'm making. paul bristow. but you see the point i'm making. paul bristow . and this making. paul bristow. and this is wnor— making. paul bristow. and this is wnor-wnon- making. paul bristow. and this is what when cameron is what matters when cameron promisso— is what matters when cameron promised-or— is what matters when cameron promised of thousands promised tens of thousands a you—

promised tens of thousands a you ,— promised tens of thousands a you , no— promised tens of thousands a you , no-roio— promised tens of thousands a year , he .told by- promised tens of thousands a year , he told by those year, he was told by those around— year, he was told by those around him _ year, he was told by those around him as— year, he was told by those around him as eu members, it's not achievable.— around him as eu members, it's not achievable. mr— around him as eu members, it's not achievable. mr cameron oh, wow— not achievable. mr cameron oh, woii ,— not achievable. mr cameron oh, woii , newsr— not achievable. mr cameron oh, well, never mind. _ not achievable. mr cameron oh, well, never mind. we'll just go on-ir— well, never mind. we'll just go on-ir .— well, never mind. we'll just go on-ir . anoi— well, never mind. we'll just go on-it . and when- well, never mind. we'll just go on it . and when boris on saying it. and when boris ionnson— on saying it. and when boris johnson promised to control innigrorion— johnson promised to control immigration, we— johnson promised to control immigration, we now know what soio— immigration, we now know what soioi inside— immigration, we now know what was said inside number ten. he never believed— was said inside number ten. he never believed in— was said inside number ten. he never believed in it. he was iusr— never believed in it. he was iusr rowing— never believed in it. he was just telling the _ never believed in it. he was just telling the electorate what he just telling the electorate what no wonsr — just telling the electorate what no wonsr vou— just telling the electorate what he wants. you know what he rnougnr— he wants. you know what he inougnr inoy— he wants. you know what he thought they wanted to hear. and non-s— thought they wanted to hear. and noro-s-nroiion.— thought they wanted to hear. and here's problem. this is here's my problem. this is oisnonosry.— here's my problem. this is dishonesty. this- here's my problem. this is dishonesty. this is lying to the nririsn— dishonesty. this is lying to the british public— dishonesty. this is lying to the british public and hoping they agree— british public and hoping they agree wiri— british public and hoping they agree win you— british public and hoping they agree with you that labour would be agree with you that labour would io soy— agree with you that labour would be worse. say there— agree with you that labour would be worse. cirimi; aii; i be worse. say there are many in the conservative party, many in parliament, who do agree that immigration is too high and do want to break down those numbers. so let's just look at those figures that we've talked about are about today. 174,000 of them are from are from from hong kong, are from ukraine. said that already ukraine. i've said that already . but then you've got . and then but then you've got about are students about 200,000 who are students and dependents now, the and their dependents now, the number of dependents, number number of dependents, the number of should of dependents. why should a sruoonr— of dependents. why should a student-should- student why should any uniworsiry— student why should any university student bring a suspension— university student bring a dependent in?— university student bring a dependent in? ririri university student bring a- dependent in? i completely agree with mean, if i'm going with you. i mean, if i'm going to go and do my masters, but your government's done this, if

you're and do your you're going to go and do your masters, you need bring masters, you don't need to bring your mother you. your mother with you. i completely agree with you. so why your government done why is your government done this? today, what we've this? well, today, what we've announced today a crackdown announced today is a crackdown on that. we're bring on that. we're going to bring that used to that number. that number used to be, about 11,000 or be, i think, about 11,000 or 16,000, think. it's 16,000, i think. and it's actually increased about 174,000in just three 174,000in just about three years. far too many. years. now, that's far too many. and that bakhmut your and i think that bakhmut your route to immigration has route to immigration that has been closed because we're going to you to ban on the dependents. you know what? i don't believe you. i know what? i don't believe you. i ion-r— know what? i don't believe you. i don't believe— know what? i don't believe you. i don't believe you. _ c i don't believe you. i don't believe you. �*vw�*ri; grir i don't believe you. we've got to i don't believe you. we've got is give— i don't believe you. we've got is give is— i don't believe you. we've got to give it a go because i keep heanng to give it a go because i keep hearing this. you know , i heard hearing this. you know, i heard worry— hearing this. you know, i heard worry nursi— hearing this. you know, i heard worry ruroi on— hearing this. you know, i heard pretty patel on the— g you know, i heard pretty patel on the illegal immigration— pretty patel on the illegal immigration .— pretty patel on the illegal immigration . i— pretty patel on the illegal immigration. i saw boris pretty patel on the illegal immigration . i saw boris johnson immigration. i saw boris johnson at immigration. i saw borisjohnson or iyooi— immigration. i saw borisjohnson or iyoo argon— immigration. i saw borisjohnson at lydd airport talking about rwanda,— at lydd airport talking about rwanda, £140— at lydd airport talking about rwanda, £140 million spent. not a rwanda, £140 million spent. not o singio— rwanda, £140 million spent. not o singio prson— rwanda, £140 million spent. not a single person being sent to iowonoio— a single person being sent to iowonoo yer.— a single person being sent to rwanda yer. i— a single person being sent to rwanda yet. i don't believe a pori— rwanda yet. i don't believe a poii wors— rwanda yet. i don't believe a poii going— rwanda yet. i don't believe a poll we're going to deal with rnis— poll we're going to deal with this, certainly— poll we're going to deal with this, certainly with the illegal srurr. — this, certainly with the illegal srurr. ari— this, certainly with the illegal stuff. all the _ this, certainly with the illegal stuff. all the while with rnornorsi— stuff. all the while with members of _ stuff. all the while with members of echr and on the legal swin— members of echr and on the legal suit you— members of echr and on the legal srurr, you know,— members of echr and on the legal stuff, you know, we— members of echr and on the legal stuff, you know, we were told wow— stuff, you know, we were told wo-oi nowooi — stuff, you know, we were told we'd moved to— stuff, you know, we were told we'd moved to a— stuff, you know, we were told we'd moved to a high skilled nigrorion— we'd moved to a high skilled migration level.— we'd moved to a high skilled migration level. that would mean poopio— migration level. that would mean poopio ooning— migration level. that would mean poopio ooning in— migration level. that would mean people coming in who earn a lot of people coming in who earn a lot or money— people coming in who earn a lot of money actually— people coming in who earn a lot of money actually ,_ people coming in who earn a lot of money actually , you can come of money actually, you can come

inro— of money actually, you can come inro ionisin— of money actually, you can come into britain for— of money actually, you can come into britain for way— of money actually, you can come into britain for way below the owsrosg— into britain for way below the owsrogs-ins- into britain for way below the average the doors are average salary. the doors are iirsroiiy— average salary. the doors are literally open.— average salary. the doors are literally open. _ average salary. the doors are literally open. wiricc ci?" c literally open. well, i don't disagree with any of that. i don't disagree idea don't disagree with the idea that need transform places that we need to transform places like away a like peterborough away from a low , low skill economy into low wage, low skill economy into a high skill economy. low wage, low skill economy into atell high skill economy. low wage, low skill economy into atell you high skill economy. low wage, low skill economy into atell you what,]h skill economy. low wage, low skill economy into atell you what, cheap. economy. low wage, low skill economy into atell you what, cheap labour�*ny. i tell you what, cheap labour is, nigel. cheap labour basically we've been addicted basically. we've been addicted to the past sort of 20 to it for the past sort of 20 years and uk economy, it years and the uk economy, it grows little bit like a grows a little bit like this, a little bit like this with cheap laboun little bit like this with cheap labour, but it has all those consequences as a result of it. what actually to do is what we actually need to do is to bring those economically inactive that you've inactive people that you've talked about, focus on retraining, reskilling, and guess what? tinkering with the universal credit system we universal credit system so we can people back into can encourage people back into work. yeah, we've got to stop psnoiising— work. yeah, we've got to stop penalising people— yeah, we've got to stop penalising people benefit for penalising people on benefit for going— penalising people on benefit for going-inro— penalising people on benefit for going-inro wow.- going back into work. absolutely. - going back into work. absolutely. think, absolutely. we also, i think, noos— absolutely. we also, i think, have some people absolutely. we also, i think,- have-some people who have to make some people who opposi— have to make some people who oppsor-rornsr— have to make some people who appear rather reluctant to appear to be rather reluctant to wow.— appear to be rather reluctant to wow. you— appear to be rather reluctant to work. you know.— appear to be rather reluctant to work, you know, maybe a bit of a sorror— work, you know, maybe a bit of a sonor ons— work, you know, maybe a bit of a carrot and stick— work, you know, maybe a bit of a carrot and stick approach. paul if carrot and stick approach. paul ir-worsr— carrot and stick approach. paul ir-worsr in— carrot and stick approach. paul if voter in peterborough, carrot and stick approach. paul if a voter in peterborough, carrot and stick approach. paul if a brexiteer. peterborough, carrot and stick approach. paul if a brexiteer. we're borough, carrot and stick approach. paul if a brexiteer. we're in'ough, carrot and stick approach. paul if a brexiteer. we're in brexit i'm a brexiteer. we're in brexit rsnirory.— i'm a brexiteer. we're in brexit sorrow-wo— i'm a brexiteer. we're in brexit territory.-we are.- i'm a brexiteer. we're in brexit territory. we are. and i'm territory. arnie we are. and i'm sisgusrss— territory. arnie we are. and i'm sisgusrss ons— territory. arnie we are. and i'm disgusted and i— territory. arnie we are. and i'm disgusted and i feel the tory gowsrnnsnr— disgusted and i feel the tory government has— disgusted and i feel the tory government has failed me on brows.— government has failed me on srsxir. ir-s— government has failed me on brexit. it's-cut— government has failed me on brexit. it's cut regulation brexit. it's not cut regulation . ir-s— brexit. it's not cut regulation , it's-migration.- brexit. it's not cut regulation , it's-migration. i- brexit. it's not cut regulation , it's migration. i feel

, it's not cut migration. i feel iss— , it's not cut migration. i feel so sown— , it's not cut migration. i feel let down like— , it's not cut migration. i feel let down like cheap pair of let down like a cheap pair of poss— let down like a cheap pair of isss wny— let down like a cheap pair of braces. why should i vote for you— braces. why should i vote for you ons— braces. why should i vote for you and-labour- braces. why should i vote for you and labour in you and not labour in peterborough? let's peterborough? well, let's see wnsrs—nsxr- peterborough? well, let's see - where _ next general where we are by the next general sisorion. — where we are by the next general sisorion. iss— where we are by the next general election. let me— where we are by the next general election. let me give- where we are by the next general election. g election. let me give you three good reasons why i think i should returned as the member should be returned as the member of peterborough, of parliament for peterborough, because this is all because i think what this is all aboutis because i think what this is all about is trying to turn peterborough into high wage, peterborough into a high wage, high economy. we've not high skill economy. we've not had of investment, had the level of investment, transport, infrastructure, investment the investment in the city over the past years we deserve. past 20 years that we deserve. and been elected in and since i've been elected in 2019, had well over 100 2019, we've had well over 100 million investment that million worth of investment that goes our universe city, which goes to our universe city, which is going to be the means to create high high create that high skill, high wage and new railway wage economy and a new railway that's regenerating our city centre. got £23 million centre. we've got £23 million to do got £48 do that and we've got £48 million to build a new station quarter . and everyone says quarter. and everyone says to me, we spending me, well, why are we spending £48 million on a station? £48 million on a new station? well we're not. we're actually buildingwhich will be the quarter, which will be the gateway to our city, not just the the gateway the the gate, the gateway to the east england. fact, east of england. in fact, because peterborough the because peterborough is the busiest, do you believe, station, do you believe you can hold this seat? yeah, i'm going to hold this seat? yeah, i'm going so nois— hold this seat? yeah, i'm going so not ins— hold this seat? yeah, i'm going to hold the seat.— hold this seat? yeah, i'm going to hold the seat. final- “cit: c yeah, i'm going to hold the seat. final thought. ins— to hold the seat. final thought. the conservatives— to hold the seat. final thought. the conservatives much the conservatives did much

porosi— the conservatives did muchi better—elections the conservatives did much. better—elections in better in the local elections in rsrsriorougn.— better in the local elections in| peterborough._we better in the local elections in| pettaround]h._we better in the local elections in| petiaround the _we better in the local elections in petiaround the country. we better in the local elections in petiaround the country. we we better in the local elections in petiaround the country. we did. did around the country. we did. why— did around the country. we did. wny-ssonuss- did around the country. we did. why-because i- did around the country. we did. why-because i thinki did around the country. we did.- why-because i think the why is that? because i think the conservatives and the city council and think myself have council and i think myself have got strong track record. i'm got a strong track record. i'm a high active local high profile, active local member. you're profile member. you're very high profile for— member. you're very high profile for-wrong— member. you're very high profile now for-wrong reasons- you're very high profile now for wrong reasons , the now for the wrong reasons, the wrong— now for the wrong reasons, the wrong reasons . wrong reasons. sorry, people, end of the day, peterborough is my city. it's where i grew up. it's where i went to school. it's where i went to school. it's where i live. i care about this city first and foremost. i came into politics. i want to be the mp for where i live, so i think that's recognised. i think i'm a high profile mp and look, this is the best job i'm ever going to have and if it lasts another two years or he lasts another two years or he lasts another 22 years, fine. another 22 years, that's fine. you the electorate are you know, the electorate are rarely but and so i go rarely wrong, but and so i go into this election in 18 months time when ever it is with an attitude. if i don't win, i'll be fine. it doesn't matter. but i will do is i'll give my very best to the city, the city that i grew up in, the that i'm i grew up in, the city that i'm from, i'll continue to do

from, and i'll continue to do that. paul bristow. i'm certain of ons— that. paul bristow. i'm certain of rning— that. paul bristow. i'm certain of one thing you'll— paul bristow. i'm certain of one thing you'll continue to soy— of one thing you'll continue to sroy on— of one thing you'll continue to sroy onnsws-— of one thing you'll continue to stay on .news. you - of one thing you'll continue to stay on news. you seem to be stay on the news. you seem to be won— stay on the news. you seem to be wsry goos— stay on the news. you seem to be wsry good or— stay on the news. you seem to be wsry good or was — stay on the news. you seem to be very good at that. and thank you for—on— very good at that. and thank you for—on ss- very good at that. and thank you for—on gb news. forjoining us here on gb news inis— forjoining us here on gb news ins-ni— forjoining us here on gb news inis-ui. — forjoining us here on gb news inis-ui. in- forjoining us here on gb news inis-ui. in n- forjoining us here on gb newsi this-hi. in a moment, this evening. hi. in a moment, i'll be joined by alp mehmet, the chairman of migration watch, and we will drill down the chairman of migration watch, and these ll drill down the chairman of migration watch, and these figures drill down the chairman of migration watch, and these figures andl down the chairman of migration watch, and these figures and what's into these figures and what's happened population over happened to our population over the of the last 20 years. the course of the last 20 years. don't away back in don't go away. back with you in a don't go away. back with you in osoupis— don't go away. back with you in a couple-minutes— don't go away. back with you in a couple-minutes .-

about her, you listening to gb wows— about her, you listening to gb wows isosio— about her, you listening to gb wows isosio .— news radio. iwell,- news radio. l well, i'm i news radio. well, i'm joined now by alp mehmet, chairman my grayson mehmet, chairman of my grayson watch migration watch have watch and migration watch have been around for a couple of decades alp you've always decades and alp you've always been concerned as to government policy on immigration on both legal and illegal into britain. these figures today over sooooo. — these figures today over 600,000. someone told me that nos— 600,000. someone told me that not wo— 600,000. someone told me that had we counted— 600,000. someone told me that had we counted the— 600,000. someone told me that had we counted the numbers the os rosi— had we counted the numbers the

same as last year,— had we counted the numbers the same as last year, they would noos— same as last year, they would nowo soon— same as last year, they would nowo ioon or— same as last year, they would have been at about 750,000. is inor— have been at about 750,000. is inor rignr— have been at about 750,000. is inor rignrs — have been at about 750,000. is that right 7 that— have been at about 750,000. is that right 7 that is— have been at about 750,000. is that right ? crimp that right? that is absolutely right. so are they that right? ” 3 so are they calling that right? " 3 so are they calling us? right. so are they calling us? vou— right. so are they calling us? you know— right. so are they calling us? you know that— right. so are they calling us? you know that the government is very clever when they dress these figures up to make them sound better than they actually are ? it's not a case of conning are? it's not a case of conning . the fact is that were we to be calculating on the basis that we did last time around, it would have been 749,000. so yeah, to that extent it's not that we're being conned, but we're not being conned, but we're not being they've changed the way they count the numbers. they have indeed. have you heard that rows— have indeed. have you heard that rows iron — have indeed. have you heard that folks from the— have indeed. have you heard that folks from the other— folks from the other broadcasters today. no. funny inor— broadcasters today. no. funny inor .— broadcasters today. no. funny inor . wnsrs— broadcasters today. no. funny that . what's your reaction to that. what's your reaction to inoso— that. what's your reaction to these numbers?— that. what's your reaction to these numbers? i'm shocked. i rsniiy— these numbers? i'm shocked. i rsniiy onn— these numbers? i'm shocked. i rsoiiy anu— these numbers? i'm shocked. i really am. and notwithstanding the fact that we were given to believe that they would be even higher and i sense that there was a little bit of jiggery pokery going on there, they wanted that 800,000, 1 million

number being discussed so that when we heard 600,000 or as i thought it was going to be just over 700,000, then everything would have been okay. wonderful the figures have have come down, but they haven't. this is absolute devastating, frankly . absolute devastating, frankly. these record figures have very long term implications , as if long term implications, as if they continue . and even if we they continue. and even if we didn't count ukraine and hong kong, we would still be talking about 440,000, a net. that's extraordinary . arnie not only is extraordinary. arnie not only is this figure high, but when you look at what the population increase was over 20 years that you referred to earlier, that happened at an average annual net migration of 245,000. and i leave it to you to work out what 600,000 means. so we go on like

this. we're heading for 70 niiiion— we're heading for 70 million population and 75 niiiion— million population and 75 million population and 75 million population and 75 million population and massive pressure on public services, roots— pressure on public services, rooss ons— pressure on public services, roads and everything else. sure. you — roads and everything else. sure. you wou— roads and everything else. sure. yeah. well everything.— roads and everything else. sure. yeah. well everything. every- yeah. well everything. every single thing. it's going to have pressure, be it your gp surgery, be it the kids going to school, be it the kids going to school, be it the nhs, the number of midwives that we need, the number of surgeons that we need everything is going to be under pressure now. interesting. i roikos— pressure now. interesting. i miss ro— pressure now. interesting. i talked to paul— ii; interesting. i talked to paul bristow, the mp, a talked to paul bristow, the mp, o rnornonr— talked to paul bristow, the mp, o rnornonr ago— talked to paul bristow, the mp, ornornonr ogo .— talked to paul bristow, the mp, a moment ago , and he talked a moment ago, and he talked spous— a moment ago, and he talked about labour— a moment ago, and he talked about labour and— a moment ago, and he talked about labour and what labour nignr— about labour and what labour nignr io— about labour and what labour nignr is riso— about labour and what labour might be like because if you rook— might be like because if you iooy or— might be like because if you iooy or ino— might be like because if you look at the other— might be like because if you look at the other bloke, he's even worse, you— look at the other bloke, he's even worse, you know. but interestingly,— even worse, you know. but interestingly, opinion poll this woos— interestingly, opinion poll this wooy snowing— interestingly, opinion poll this week showing the public norginoiiy— week showing the public marginally now trust the labour party— marginally now trust the labour sorry nono— marginally now trust the labour sorry on— marginally now trust the labour party more on this— marginally now trust the labour party more on this issue than rnoy— party more on this issue than inoy rrusr— party more on this issue than they trust the _ party more on this issue than they trust the conservative sorry. — they trust the conservative sorry. wow— they trust the conservative party. now there's no well, rnoro-s— party. now there's no well, inoro-s o— party. now there's no well, there's a few— party. now there's no well, there's a few rubbishes here. wo— there's a few rubbishes here. no. wou— there's a few rubbishes here. no. woii i— there's a few rubbishes here. no. well i think— there's a few rubbishes here. no. well i think actually i'm going— no. well i think actually i'm going ro— no. well i think actually i'm going so oss— no. well i think actually i'm going to ask out— no. well i think actually i'm going to ask out this. i think, g.— going to ask out this. i think, yous— going to ask out this. i think, sir, you're right.— going to ask out this. i think,

sir, you're right. we don't rrusr— sir, you're right. we don't rrusr ony— sir, you're right. we don't rrusr any or— sir, you're right. we don't trust any of them any more, do woo— trust any of them any more, do woo insis— trust any of them any more, do we? that's what— trust any of them any more, do we? that's what i— trust any of them any more, do we? that's what i was going to soy. — we? that's what i was going to say i— we? that's what i was going to say i rayon-r— we? that's what i was going to say. i haven't trusted- we? that's what i was going to say. i c ray we? that's what i was going to say. i c say. i haven't trusted any of them for a long time because when you have all the experts saying , actually high saying, actually high immigration is a good thing, when you hear the office for national statistics, give us a figure and then the obr says , figure and then the obr says, no, no, no, no, it's actually a good thing because it grows the economy. yes, it grows the economy. yes, it grows the economy arnie, but it also grows the population. so the slice of the population. so the slice of the cake that you get actually doesn't change at all. meanwhile you've got all the pressures on the services that you've you've touched on, but it's okay now. it's fine now it's all solved. roui— it's fine now it's all solved. paul bristow— it's fine now it's all solved. paul bristow just told me rnoro-s— paul bristow just told me inoro-s no— paul bristow just told me there's no problem. rishi is going— there's no problem. rishi is going ro— there's no problem. rishi is going so srop— there's no problem. rishi is going to stop the boats . they're going to stop the boats. they're going— going to stop the boats. they're going ro— going to stop the boats. they're going so ons— going to stop the boats. they're going to end excessive dependence- going to end excessive dependence coming in for you know.— dependence coming in for you know. wiri— dependence coming in for you know, with students. and they're going— know, with students. and they're going so— know, with students. and they're going to significantly cut the numbers..it's_ going to significantly cut the numbers..it's all- going to significantly cut the numbers. it's all going to be numbers. so it's all going to be okay.— numbers. so it's all going to be okayloniy— numbers. so it's all going to be okoyloniy ir— numbers. so it's all going to be okay,.only if only. _ numbers. so it's all going to be okay, only if only. you mean okay, if only if only. you mean you— okay, if only if only. you mean you son-r— okay, if only if only. you mean you don't believe— okay, if only if only. you mean you don't believe no it's

you don't believe them? no it's not you don't believe them? no it's norlsoso— you don't believe them? no it's norlsoso or— you don't believe them? no it's norlsoso or i— you don't believe them? no it's notlcase of i don't- you don't believe them? no it's not case of i don't believe not a case of i don't believe rnon. — not a case of i don't believe rnon. i— not a case of i don't believe rnon. i just— not a case of i don't believe them. i just wonder- not a case of i don't believe them. : not a case of i don't believe- them. i just wonder whether they know about know what they're talking about . look, i worked in nigeria for four years. a great country , four years. a great country, great fun there. but i know the sort of pressures there are for young people in particular to make their way into the west, into the prosper west, have a better life , have an education better life, have an education and have a job. nigeria for sub—saharan africa, south asia, it's the same . there's huge it's the same. there's huge amounts of poverty and there's a lack of opportunity . so of lack of opportunity. so of course they're going to want to come here. and unless we control it, i'm afraid more and more will come. well, my worry on rnis— will come. well, my worry on no is.— will come. well, my worry on no is. or— will come. well, my worry on this is, of course,— cc f well, my worry on this is, of course, that nearly oworyposy— this is, of course, that nearly oworyposy inor— this is, of course, that nearly everybody that comes across from coins— everybody that comes across from calais boulogne_ everybody that comes across from calais boulogne on— everybody that comes across from calais boulogne on those singnios— calais boulogne on those singnios .— calais boulogne on those dinghies , nearly all of them dinghies, nearly all of them noos— dinghies, nearly all of them have come across the mediterranean to begin with . and mediterranean to begin with. and the mediterranean to begin with. and is nurnorsi— mediterranean to begin with. and the numbers that— mediterranean to begin with. and the numbers that have crossed the numbers that have crossed rno wooi— the numbers that have crossed rno woo in— the numbers that have crossed the med in the— the numbers that have crossed the med in the last year are rnroo— the med in the last year are inroo rinos— the med in the last year are three times the— the med in the last year are three times the number that we nos— three times the number that we

not ino— three times the number that we had the previous— three times the number that we had the previous year. what what can had the previous year. what what wo so— had the previous year. what what can we do with— had the previous year. what what can we do with france to stop iiiogoi— can we do with france to stop illegal immigration? wiricc can we do with france to stop illegal immigration? �*fyiii;cc illegal immigration? well, what can illegal immigration? well, what we so— illegal immigration? well, what can we do with france apart from giving it hundreds of millions of pounds ? well, i think that of pounds? well, i think that pornops— of pounds? well, i think that pornops inor— of pounds? well, i think that perhaps that we _ r:~;c well, i think that perhaps that we could behave r:3c well, i think that perhaps that we could behave a iirrio— perhaps that we could behave a iirrio pir— perhaps that we could behave a little bit more— perhaps that we could behave a little bit more like— perhaps that we could behave a little bit more like the french do little bit more like the french to wnon— little bit more like the french to wnon inoy— little bit more like the french do when they start reacting to rnings— do when they start reacting to inings inor— do when they start reacting to things that they— do when they start reacting to things that they don't like . and things that they don't like. and this things that they don't like. and no is— things that they don't like. and no is ino— things that they don't like. and this is the thing,— things that they don't like. and this is the thing, none of the poopio— this is the thing, none of the poopio nois— this is the thing, none of the poopio noro in— this is the thing, none of the people here in this in this ousionso— people here in this in this audience were— people here in this in this audience were asked actually , do audience were asked actually, do you won— audience were asked actually, do you wonr inis— audience were asked actually, do you want this level— audience were asked actually, do you want this level of migration 7 you want this level of migration s wors— you want this level of migration s wo-ro nor— you want this level of migration ? we're not talking about people ooning— ? we're not talking about people ooning ro— ? we're not talking about people ooning ro inis— ? we're not talking about people coming to this country contributing. - coming to this country contributing. i'm a first gonororion— contributing. i'm a first generation migrant . there's generation migrant. there's oiwoys— generation migrant. there's oiwoys noon— generation migrant. there's always been migration. you rousnos— always been migration. you rousnos on— always been migration. you touched on it— always been migration. you touched on it since the war. inoro-s— touched on it since the war. there's been— touched on it since the war. there's been steady , sensible there's been steady, sensible nigrorion— there's been steady, sensible migration levels.— there's been steady, sensible migration levels. it's the speed ons— migration levels. it's the speed and ino— migration levels. it's the speed and the scale— migration levels. it's the speed and the scale that— migration levels. it's the speed and the scale that people are worriso— and the scale that people are worried about.— and the scale that people are worried about. _ and the scale that people are worried about. 'r: worried about. and i think it's also the breach of promise that if you're told that election after election, we're going to control this and you i control this and you don't. i agree. should trust agree. why should we trust anybody elections? now, i'm anybody for elections? now, i'm going comments

going to get some comments and questions audience. the questions from the audience. the lady to have quite a lady there seems to have quite a bit to say on this subject. so we're going to try get we're going to try and get a microphone her. there we go. microphone to her. there we go. come on. it's not that i want on immigration , so you can try immigration, so you can try later, right? other people , the later, right? other people, the gentleman there now, you were the one that shouted out, i don't trust any of them. your name, please . it's matt. yeah name, please. it's matt. yeah do you think that mass immigration— do you think that mass immigration forced into towns ons— immigration forced into towns and sirios— immigration forced into towns and cities around— immigration forced into towns and cities around the uk is sorrios— and cities around the uk is sonios our— and cities around the uk is carried out to— and cities around the uk is carried out to take the votes sway— carried out to take the votes away from — carried out to take the votes away from the _ carried out to take the votes away from the centre right . yes. away from the centre right. yes. wou— away from the centre right. yes. woii insis— away from the centre right. yes. woii rnor-s on— away from the centre right. yes. well that's an interesting one. sons— well that's an interesting one. sons wouiu— well that's an interesting one. some would say— well that's an interesting one. some would say deeply- some would say deeply conspiratorial . however, conspiratorial. however, however, both in this country and in america with the democrats, there is evidence is that a lot of people who come first generation, second generation and naturalise , there generation and naturalise, there is evidence that a lot of them do vote labour or do vote for the democrats . in the case of the democrats. in the case of the democrats. in the case of the usa , to say that it's the usa, to say that it's deliberate , they might be deliberate, they might be pushing it a bit, but it's a

reality and funny, isn't it, stopping it. so it's as good as soiiiororo— stopping it. so it's as good as soiiiororo. — stopping it. so it's as good as deliberate . and— stopping it. so it's as good as deliberate . and it's- stopping it. so it's as good as deliberate . and it's funny, deliberate. and it's funny, isn't it? because one of the things that labour are teasing is that all all foreign nationals should get the vote out. what's your thought? if we're looking back to 20 years, tony— we're looking back to 20 years, iony sioir— we're looking back to 20 years, tony blair actually, there's iors— tony blair actually, there's iors or— tony blair actually, there's lots of evidence- tony blair actually, there's lots of evidence that that time insis— lots of evidence that that time inoro ws— lots of evidence that that time inoro on — lots of evidence that that time there was an encouragement of poopio— there was an encouragement of poopio oo— there was an encouragement of poopio ro— there was an encouragement of people come to this country ioouso— people come to this country because ultimately they were not oniy— because ultimately they were not oniy sorr— because ultimately they were not oniy son or— because ultimately they were not only sort of doing— because ultimately they were not only sort of doing the lowly ions.— only sort of doing the lowly iois pur— only sort of doing the lowly iops. our in— only sort of doing the lowly jobs, but in the— only sort of doing the lowly jobs, but in the end, they would oiso— jobs, but in the end, they would oiso wors— jobs, but in the end, they would also nato vote— jobs, but in the end, they would also nato vote labour and that, i'm also nato vote labour and that, in arraig— also nato vote labour and that, in orrois. ws— also nato vote labour and that, i'm afraid, was something that is rooonios— i'm afraid, was something that is rooonios .— i'm afraid, was something that is recorded . whether it's going is recorded. whether it's going on i— is recorded. whether it's going on now, i don't— is recorded. whether it's going on now, i don't think that the ionos— on now, i don't think that the iorios aro— on now, i don't think that the tories are encouraging it and yet tories are encouraging it and yor ino— tories are encouraging it and yo no sysron— tories are encouraging it and yet the system that they've put in proso— yet the system that they've put in place effective— yet the system that they've put in place effective does it is going— in place effective does it is going ro— in place effective does it is going so so— in place effective does it is going to do that? \rir in place effective does it is going to do that? \rrir crimp going to do that? no, absolutely . ali, thank you very much indeed. . ali, thank you very much indeed . other people that put indeed. other people that put some hands up, those of you that have got some thoughts, some ideas, some questions, come on. you can't all be scared. gentlemen, his hand gentlemen, there with his hand

up . go ahead. i'm gentlemen, there with his hand up . go ahead . i'm mike, my up. go ahead. i'm mike, my inougnrs— up. go ahead. i'm mike, my inougnrs aro— up. go ahead. i'm mike, my thoughts are that— c. cirir : i'm mike, my thoughts are that there's a huge noos— thoughts are that there's a huge not for— thoughts are that there's a huge need for workers— thoughts are that there's a huge need for workers in this country . anoi— need for workers in this country . ans insis— need for workers in this country . and there are— need for workers in this country . and there are a— need for workers in this country . and there are a lot of people noos— . and there are a lot of people have come over— . and there are a lot of people have come over looking for work . wny— have come over looking for work . wny wouis— have come over looking for work . wny wouioi ir— have come over looking for work . why would it not— have come over looking for work . why would it not be a good isos— . why would it not be a good isoo ro— . why would it not be a good isoo ro ior— . why would it not be a good idea to let them— . why would it not be a good idea to let them work even with an idea to let them work even with on oiosrronio— idea to let them work even with an electronic tag?— idea to let them work even with an electronic tag? this country, inn— an electronic tag? this country, inis arso— an electronic tag? this country, inis or— an electronic tag? this country, this area of peterborough, inoro-s— this area of peterborough, inoro-s o— this area of peterborough, there's a great— this area of peterborough, there's a great need for agricultural— there's a great need for agricultural workers build as wororsk— agricultural workers build as workers and— agricultural workers build as workers and engineering , which workers and engineering, which is historically— workers and engineering, which is historically always been the sur— is historically always been the same. but there _ is historically always been the same. but there are people here wno— same. but there are people here wno wani— same. but there are people here wno wonr ro— same. but there are people here who want to work,— same. but there are people here who want to work, come to work . who want to work, come to work. oouis — who want to work, come to work. oouis wo — who want to work, come to work. oouis wo nor— who want to work, come to work. could we not let— who want to work, come to work. could we not let them work and onto— could we not let them work and sonrroi ir— could we not let them work and control it with— could we not let them work and control it with electronic tags? inrss— control it with electronic tags? inrss points— control it with electronic tags? three points on— control it with electronic tags? three points on that,- control it with electronic tags? three points on that, mike.- control it with electronic tags? three points on that, mike. i'm going to make very quickly before out comes in. number one, we've got too many british people who aren't working, who are stuck in a benefits trap whereby going back to where, you know, if they go back to work, they risk being worse off a year down the road . second point to down the road. second point to make is that if you allow lots of people in on relatively low

paid jobs, the minimum wage becomes the maximum wage for everybody else. and we have seen those wage compressions in the building industry and elsewhere. third, quick point, if i may. if you allow people who've come illegally to work double the number will come next year illegally , parts of america have illegally, parts of america have given these amnesties to people who've come illegally, and it's led to millions more coming out. your thoughts? yes i echo that. no , no, no. it would be the most no, no, no. it would be the most rooiisn— no, no, no. it would be the most rooiisn ring.— no, no, no. it would be the most foolish thing, frankly, to do to encourage people to come here, issuso— encourage people to come here, issuso in— encourage people to come here, issuso in ino— encourage people to come here, because in the end— encourage people to come here, because in the end , you get here because in the end, you get here ons— because in the end, you get here and you— because in the end, you get here and you on— because in the end, you get here and you can work— because in the end, you get here and you can work here and you wiri— and you can work here and you wiii on— and you can work here and you wiii o— and you can work here and you will earn a bit— and you can work here and you will earn a bit of— and you can work here and you will earn a bit of money and you wiri— will earn a bit of money and you wiii sorroiniy— will earn a bit of money and you will certainly be— will earn a bit of money and you will certainly be earning a gross— will certainly be earning a gross ossi— will certainly be earning a great deal more money than you are great deal more money than you oorning— great deal more money than you owning or— great deal more money than you are earning at home. yeah, it wiri— are earning at home. yeah, it wiii iusr— are earning at home. yeah, it will just drive— are earning at home. yeah, it will just drive a— are earning at home. yeah, it will just drive a coach and noss— will just drive a coach and horses through— will just drive a coach and horses through whatever semblance— horses through whatever semblance of- horses through whatever semblance of control we still noos. — semblance of control we still noos. orsos— semblance of control we still have. ci ”ririic r: c. .. semblance of control we still have. ciiiriic semblance of control we still- have. great question. thank you. i've got time for 1 or 2 more gentlemen here with his hand up, lady there with a hand up lady

there first, please . is. lady there with a hand up lady there first, please . is . thank there first, please. is. thank you. hello. my name and mrs. herniman . and ijust you. hello. my name and mrs. herniman . and i just want to ask herniman. and i just want to ask you,— herniman. and i just want to ask you. is— herniman. and i just want to ask you. is ir— herniman. and i just want to ask you. is is o— herniman. and i just want to ask you. is is o goos— herniman. and i just want to ask you, is it a good idea— herniman. and i just want to ask you, is it a good idea to- and i just want to ask you, is it a good idea to come our— you, is it a good idea to come our iron — you, is it a good idea to come our iron ino— you, is it a good idea to come out from the ec— you, is it a good idea to come out from the ec echr? and how soon we should— out from the ec echr? and how soon we should do— out from the ec echr? and how soon we should do it? is that. weir.— soon we should do it? is that. wow i— soon we should do it? is that. wow i son-r— soon we should do it? is that. well, i don't think.— soon we should do it? is that. well, i don't think. i- soon we should do it? is that. well, i don't think. i mean,- well, i don't think. i mean, i want to be cautious about this . want to be cautious about this. i don't think we should leave too quickly. i think tomorrow afternoon something like that might work . know you know the might work. know you know the way. yeah. might work. know you know the way. yeah . no, i agree. we need way. yeah. no, i agree. we need to way. yeah. no, i agree. we need so so— way. yeah. no, i agree. we need to do something— way. yeah. no, i agree. we need to do something .— yeah. no, i agree. we need to do something . action. not to do something. action. not iusr— to do something. action. not iusr worss — to do something. action. not just words. ri.crir just words. action. what worries me is alex chalk, who's just come into the cabinet in a senior judicial position, come into the cabinet in a seniorjudicial position, said senior judicial position, said very clearly two days ago, we will not be leaving the echr. i know , i'm afraid. no. well, know, i'm afraid. no. well, ioouso— know, i'm afraid. no. well, because , as i'm- know, i'm afraid. no. well, because , as i'm afraid. look, because, as i'm afraid. look, ino— because, as i'm afraid. look, the conservative _ because, as i'm afraid. look, the conservative party never ioiiowos— the conservative party never ioiiowos in— the conservative party never believed in brexit. one of the inoy— believed in brexit. one of the reasons they failed so badly , i

reasons they failed so badly, i rnink— reasons they failed so badly, i ininy on— reasons they failed so badly, i think on this— reasons they failed so badly, i think on this and— reasons they failed so badly, i think on this and on many other inings— think on this and on many other inings. inoy— think on this and on many other things, they never— think on this and on many other things, they never believed in it things, they never believed in ii ons— things, they never believed in ii and rnoy— things, they never believed in it and they think— things, they never believed in it and they think we'll be seen as ino— it and they think we'll be seen as rno pos— it and they think we'll be seen as no poo guys— it and they think we'll be seen as the bad guys if— it and they think we'll be seen as the bad guys if we leave echr i as the bad guys if we leave echr i ioiiowo— as the bad guys if we leave echr i believe that— as the bad guys if we leave echr i believe that that— as the bad guys if we leave echr i believe that that i— as the bad guys if we leave echr i believe that that i mean, if you— i believe that that i mean, if you soporr— i believe that that i mean, if you deport people , well, it's you deport people, well, it's a disincentive _ you deport people, well, it's a disincentive out— you deport people, well, it's a disincentive out .— you deport people, well, it's a disincentive out . echr was disincentive out. echr was a rosi— disincentive out. echr was a rooi proiion— disincentive out. echr was a real problem last year with rwanda.— real problem last year with rwanda, wasn't— real problem last year with rwanda, wasn't it? c ? real problem last year with rwanda, wasn't it? c 3 rwanda, wasn't it? echr is a rugs— rwanda, wasn't it? echr is a huge problem and i think we should leave. okay. that is my, my, my humble opinion. however what i think is also true is i personally don't believe that leaving the echr on its own will actually lead to the stops to the boats stopping not on its own. no. the boats stopping not on its own. no . but it would help own. no. but it would help onornousiy— own. no. but it would help enormously with— no. but it would help enormously with deportation. year.— enormously with deportation. yeah. its— enormously with deportation. stn. is puss.— enormously with deportation. yeah, it's just. it's— enormously with deportation. yeah, it's just. it's out- enormously with deportation. yeah, it's just. it's out of- yeah, it's just. it's out of date. it's inappropriate . it's date. it's inappropriate. it's not what we need now. it's the same with the 1951 convention. they just totally outmoded. not fit for purpose. we need to move on and look at another way of doing it . out on and look at another way of doing it. out to finish your iorosr— doing it. out to finish your latest campaign— r:rir g c out to finish your latest campaign and petition. iori— latest campaign and petition. ioii us— latest campaign and petition. ioii us ori— latest campaign and petition. tell us all about— latest campaign and petition. tell us all about it. yes the

roopio-s— tell us all about it. yes the people's petition , frankly, for people's petition, frankly, for so many— people's petition, frankly, for so many yos— people's petition, frankly, for so many years, people have been rowi— so many years, people have been our inor— so many years, people have been told that something's going to noppon— told that something's going to noppon ons— told that something's going to noppon and ii— told that something's going to happen and it hasn't. 33g told that something's going to happen and it hasn't . “cg happen and it hasn't. they a lot of happen and it hasn't. they a lot or poopio— happen and it hasn't. they a lot of people up and down the country feel betrayed and. well, i've decided and my little organisation has decided that we will have a petition for people to sign, to cut immigration. please sign it. right. well, the website is on the screen for those that want to watch it, the website is on the screen out. you've just advertised the poopio-s— you've just advertised the people's petition on the roopio-s— people's petition on the people's channel. people's petition on the- people's channel. thank you for coming to peterborough this evening. thank you very much. thank you. great stuff. in a nornonr— thank you. great stuff. in a moment, we'll— thank you. great stuff. in a moment, we'll talk- great stuff. in a moment, we'll talk about the priyoro— moment, we'll talk about the private rental— moment, we'll talk about the private rental sector in peterborough and what has nopponos— peterborough and what has nopponos ro— peterborough and what has happened to rents and what may noppon— happened to rents and what may nopponlrno— happened to rents and what may happen the future. f happen in the future. back with you.— happen in the future. back with you. in— happen in the future. back with you. in n— happen in the future. back with you. in a couple of minutes. it's

9 to 11 pm. on. gb news. so between . the 2011 census and so between. the 2011 census and the 2021 census, the population of peterborough grew by over 17. the population here is the populatioh here is exploding the population here is exploding . pur— the population here is exploding . our inor— the population here is exploding , but that leads— the population here is exploding , but that leads to— the population here is exploding , but that leads to a slight proiion— , but that leads to a slight propion .— , but that leads to a slight problem . where is everybody problem. where is everybody going— problem. where is everybody going ro— problem. where is everybody going so iiwo— problem. where is everybody going to live and what is it going— going to live and what is it going ro— going to live and what is it going o oo— going to live and what is it going to cost them? and what's the government— going to cost them? and what's the government doing about it ? the government doing about it? anoi— the government doing about it? and now— the government doing about it? and noy. wirn— the government doing about it? and hey, with these net nigrorion— and hey, with these net migration figures, those pressures may just get worse. work— pressures may just get worse. work uoinor— pressures may just get worse. mark holmer is— pressures may just get worse. mark holmer is co—founder and sirosror— mark holmer is co—founder and sirosror or— mark holmer is co—founder and director of progressive propony.— director of progressive property. and you are the iorgosr— property. and you are the largest private - property. and you are the largest private residential oonpony— largest private residential oonpony .— largest private residential company , arnie, letting company, arnie, letting proponios— company, arnie, letting properties in- company, arnie, letting properties in the peterborough . so— properties in the peterborough . so wirn— properties in the peterborough area . so with that population area. so with that population oxpiosion— area. so with that population oopiosion in— area. so with that population explosion in what has happened to explosion in what has happened so ionis— explosion in what has happened so ions in— explosion in what has happened to rents in peterborough in the rosi— to rents in peterborough in the no row— to rents in peterborough in the no row yoors— to rents in peterborough in the last few years ,_ to rents in peterborough in the last few years , okay, so 2016, last few years, okay, so 2016, if last few years, okay, so 2016, ii i— last few years, okay, so 2016, ii i won— last few years, okay, so 2016, ii i wonr on— last few years, okay, so 2016, if i went on to— last few years, okay, so 2016, if i went on to rightmove and i iusr— if i went on to rightmove and i iusr nos— if i went on to rightmove and i us not o— if i went on to rightmove and i just had a look— if i went on to rightmove and i just had a look at— if i went on to rightmove and i just had a look at sort of bread ons— just had a look at sort of bread and purror— just had a look at sort of bread and butter stock,— just had a look at sort of bread and butter stock, which would be and butter stock, which would be o iirrio — and butter stock, which would be o iirrio rnroo— and butter stock, which would be a little three beds— and butter stock, which would be a little three beds x council, all a little three beds x council, oii sorr— a little three beds x council, oii son or— a little three beds x council, all sort of breton— a little three beds x council, all sort of breton orton's , all sort of breton orton's, rnoso— all sort of breton orton's, those kinds— all sort of breton orton's, those kinds of— all sort of breton orton's, those kinds of areas, you'd be iooying— those kinds of areas, you'd be iooying or— those kinds of areas, you'd be iooying or s— those kinds of areas, you'd be looking at a rent—

those kinds of areas, you'd be looking at a rent of maybe $5.50 a looking at a rent of maybe $5.50 o nonin— looking at a rent of maybe $5.50 o nonrn ons— looking at a rent of maybe $5.50 a month and there— looking at a rent of maybe $5.50 a month and there would be about 25 a month and there would be about so or— a month and there would be about so or rnoso— a month and there would be about 25 of those available . 25 of those available. fast forward— 25 of those available. fast forward this— 25 of those available. fast forward this morning. i had a look. there were five. and you're looking at about £1,000 a month. very just under a thousand a month. so rents have virtually doubled, almost doubled since 16 since the referendum. actually in 2016. wow— referendum. actually in 2016. now muon— referendum. actually in 2016. now nusn or— referendum. actually in 2016. how much of this— referendum. actually in 2016. how much of this is- ”ri;�*"ri;”ri;r:c. actually in 2016. how much of this is population prossuro s — how much of this is population pressure ? well,— how much of this is population pressure ? well, i— how much of this is population pressure ? wiricc how much of this is population pressure ? "

situation. so people are iiroroiiy— situation. so people are literally people - " so people are literally people that own rental proponios— literally people that own rental proponios oro— literally people that own rental properties are mortgages, soiiing— properties are mortgages, selling them— properties are mortgages, selling them ,_ properties are mortgages, selling them , getting out of the selling them, getting out of the norsos.— selling them, getting out of the norsos. so— selling them, getting out of the market. so the— selling them, getting out of the market. so the supply of rental proponios— market. so the supply of rental proponios is— market. so the supply of rental properties is contracting . at properties is contracting. at ino— properties is contracting. at rno sono— properties is contracting. at the same time,— properties is contracting. at the same time, there are more ons— the same time, there are more and oo— the same time, there are more and poopio— the same time, there are more and more people coming into the sounrry— and more people coming into the oounrry wno— and more people coming into the country who need— and more people coming into the country who need to rent. c country who need to rent. it's piunnnnsiing— country who need to rent. it's piunnnnsring. ii— country who need to rent. it's plummeting. if plummeting , if we plummeting. if plummeting, if we put property on the market now put a property on the market now , one of those houses, little three bed houses on average, if we leave it there for ten days, we leave it there for ten days, we will get north of 150 inquiries and we might get around half of those that convert into an application. so we often put them on for two days. we end up with, i don't know, net 20 applications, something like that. so there is a severe shortage. it's that it's all of the extra red tape, it's all of the extra red tape, it's the red relations. does the gowornnonr— it's the red relations. does the government understand - c ”cc does the government understand what inoy-ro— government understand what inoy-ro soing— government understand what they're doing here? /rirc. they're doing here? you know, onio— they're doing here? you know, run is— they're doing here? you know, this is what i keep wondering. this was george osborne , 2015 this was george osborne, 2015 opporonriy— this was george osborne, 2015 opporonriy ws— this was george osborne, 2015 apparently was someone in the iroosury— apparently was someone in the iroosury wno— apparently was someone in the treasury who who _ apparently was someone in the treasury who who dreamt this sorr— treasury who who dreamt this son or— treasury who who dreamt this sort of section— treasury who who dreamt this sort of section 24— treasury who who dreamt this sort of section 24 up, not not using— sort of section 24 up, not not ising opio— sort of section 24 up, not not poing opio ro—

sort of section 24 up, not not being able to offset all the nongogo— being able to offset all the mortgage interest, but then inoy-yo— mortgage interest, but then they've added— mortgage interest, but then they've added layers and layers of they've added layers and layers or sorro— they've added layers and layers of extra regulation— they've added layers and layers of extra regulation . you know, of extra regulation. you know, we of extra regulation. you know, wo noos— of extra regulation. you know, wo nowo rignr— of extra regulation. you know, we have right to— of extra regulation. you know, we have right to rent checks now , we have right to rent checks now .-iosisoiiy— we have right to rent checks now .-iosisoiiy rnoy- we have right to rent checks now , basically they make , which is basically they make usorss-r so— , which is basically they make us-force. so.have. , which is basically they make us force. so have to us border force. so we have to goods— us border force. so we have to decide whether— us border force. so we have to decide whether somebody has the rignr— decide whether somebody has the rignrlronr— decide whether somebody has the rignrlronr o— decide whether somebody has the right rent a property in this right to rent a property in this sounrry— right to rent a property in this oounrry .— right to rent a property in this oounrry . wo— right to rent a property in this oounrry . wo you— right to rent a property in this country . we you know, there's country. we you know, there's a wnoio— country. we you know, there's a wnoio roos— country. we you know, there's a whole load of— country. we you know, there's a whole load of other legislation arousi— whole load of other legislation orouns sorr— whole load of other legislation around sort of— whole load of other legislation around sort of licencing . 750 to around sort of licencing. 750 to roos— around sort of licencing. 750 to woo owory— around sort of licencing. 750 to 1000 every five _ around sort of licencing. 750 to 1000 every five years that you nowo — 1000 every five years that you nowo ro — 1000 every five years that you noos ro spons— 1000 every five years that you have to spend. and then there's all have to spend. and then there's oii ino— have to spend. and then there's oii rno sorr— have to spend. and then there's all the sort of— have to spend. and then there's all the sort of extra safety requirements,— all the sort of extra safety requirements, legion , ella and requirements, legion, ella and rnon— requirements, legion, ella and rnon inoro-s— requirements, legion, ella and then there's ipsis , which of then there's ipsis, which of course is the— then there's ipsis, which of course is the net- then there's ipsis, which of course is the net zero net zero sonniinont— course is the net zero net zero commitment, which with older proponios— commitment, which with older proponios is— commitment, which with older proponios is wow.— commitment, which with older properties is very, very oponsiyo— properties is very, very expensive to- properties is very, very expensive to get them to be going— expensive to get them to be going ro— expensive to get them to be going so is— expensive to get them to be going to be thousands, it's going— going to be thousands, it's going ro— going to be thousands, it's going so is— going to be thousands, it's going to be what about, you know . row— going to be what about, you know . row wno— going to be what about, you know , folk who come— going to be what about, you know , folk who come to— going to be what about, you know , folk who come to peterborough, rnoy-ro— , folk who come to peterborough, inoy-ro-rnoy-ro - , folk who come to peterborough, they're they're paying they're working, they're paying insi— they're working, they're paying rnoir—now- they're working, they're paying. their—now spending their tax. they're now spending more more their more and more of their income just somewhere to live. well, just on somewhere to live. well, absolutely. i mean, just on somewhere to live. well, absolutely . i mean, you know, absolutely. i mean, you know, rnis— absolutely. i mean, you know, no is— absolutely. i mean, you know, no is o— absolutely. i mean, you know, no is o nugo— absolutely. i mean, you know, this is a huge sort— absolutely. i mean, you know, this is a huge sort of- crimp i mean, you know, this is a huge sort of it's a ionsing— this is a huge sort of it's a landing area— this is a huge sort of it's a landing area for- this is a huge sort of it's a landing area for migrants. and rnoro-s— landing area for migrants. and there's loads— landing area for migrants. and there's loads and— landing area for migrants. and there's loads and loads of pissing— there's loads and loads of picking fields— there's loads and loads of picking fields around. there's iooss— picking fields around. there's roots or— picking fields around. there's loads of sort— picking fields around. there's loads of sort of— picking fields around. there's loads of sort of warehouses. so it loads of sort of warehouses. so

is orrrosrs— loads of sort of warehouses. so it attracts people— loads of sort of warehouses. so it attracts people because it's ino— it attracts people because it's rno snooposr— it attracts people because it's the cheapest place within 75 niios— the cheapest place within 75 niios or— the cheapest place within 75 miles of london. _ the cheapest place within 75 miles of london. so local people are miles of london. so local people sorr— miles of london. so local people son or— miles of london. so local people son or in— miles of london. so local people are sort of in many— miles of london. so local people are sort of in many ways they're oonporing— are sort of in many ways they're oonporing wiri— are sort of in many ways they're competing with this, this what souis— competing with this, this what souis io— competing with this, this what could be done. _ competing with this, this what could be done. c .. could be done. mark? i mean, clearly, you know, you're not responsible for government immigration policy and the rocketing population. i won't pin you. but what do you pin that on you. but what do you think can done to increase think can be done to increase the supply of available housing to let. well , the supply of available housing to let. well, i think the first rning— to let. well, i think the first ining is.— to let. well, i think the first thing is, obviously,- well, i think the first thing is, obviously, we talk spous— thing is, obviously, we talk oiour inon— thing is, obviously, we talk about them more thing is, obviously, we talk- about them-more houses. about them building more houses. insy-ys— they've got to do something about the planning system and not just sort of talk about it. so of us system where so some sort of us system where you have a zone and you sort of say that zone you can build say in that zone you can build houses as as long as you houses as and as long as you meet this criteria a bit like building regs, you're pretty much that you're going to much sure that you're going to get planning consent. think get planning consent. i think that's thing. i think that's the first thing. i think the thing is this this the next thing is this this regulation. they need to row some of this back some of this lot back and actually create incentive. you know, this with the know, thatcher did this with the housing you she she housing act. you know, she she came along the 80s and she as came along in the 80s and she as much as lots of people don't like it when a tenant doesn't

pay, like it when a tenant doesn't pay, she gave landlords the ability to evict to you know, obviously keep rents in line with the market and she created incentive and that sector boomed. there were so many when we came into this 20 years ago, there were so many more landlords coming in and it suppresses rents and it creates choice, better quality , better choice, better quality, better quality properties . and you quality properties. and you know, it's not it's just supply and demand. it's basic economics. but somebody doesn't seem get that or they don't seem to get that or they don't want to get it . maybe it's vote. want to get it. maybe it's vote. you're right. maybe it's votes . you're right. maybe it's votes. mark homer, thank you for giving us your— mark homer, thank you for giving us your expertise. _ mark homer, thank you for giving us your expertise. as i have to say,— us your expertise. as i have to soy. rnoso— us your expertise. as i have to say, those rental— us your expertise. as i have to say, those rental increases here inon—o— say, those rental increases here ino—o snosying.| in peterborough are shocking. sur— in peterborough are shocking. our-ironi— in peterborough are shocking. our-wow soys- but it is, as mark says, a iononi— but it is, as mark says, a demand equation , but it is, as mark says, a. demand-equation , a but it is, as mark says, a- demand-equation , a supply demand supply equation, a supply noiuoing— demand supply equation, a supply reducing because— demand supply equation, a supply reducing because the government are reducing because the government nosing— reducing because the government noying ir— reducing because the government are making it difficult for poopio— are making it difficult for poopio-ior— are making it difficult for people-let out- are making it difficult for people let out properties. people to let out properties. rosi— people to let out properties. oso-roos— people to let out properties. red -taxes is- people to let out properties. red-taxes is and- people to let out properties. red taxes is and supplies red tape, taxes is and supplies soying— red tape, taxes is and supplies increase saying well just have a rook— increase saying well just have a iooy or— increase saying well just have a iooy or roioy-s— increase saying well just have a look at today's net— increase saying well just have a look at today's net migration srorisrios— look at today's net migration srorisriss .— look at today's net migration statistics . it— look at today's net migration statistics . it doesn't take much statistics. it doesn't take much working— statistics. it doesn't take much working our— statistics. it doesn't take much working our .— statistics. it doesn't take much working out . in— statistics. it doesn't take much working out . in a— statistics. it doesn't take much working out . in a moment, i'll working out. in a moment, i'll be working out. in a moment, i'll is ioinoi— working out. in a moment, i'll is ioinoo iy— working out. in a moment, i'll be joined by liam— working out. in a moment, i'll be joined by liam halligan, gb wows.— be joined by liam halligan, gb news, economics— be joined by liam halligan, gb news, economics editor. i'm

going— news, economics editor. i'm going ro— news, economics editor. i'm going so oso— news, economics editor. i'm going to ask him we hear every yoon— going to ask him we hear every year mass migration is good for the year mass migration is good for is sonoy— year mass migration is good for the economy, but— year mass migration is good for the economy, but is it really .

properly well , economics , it properly well, economics, it norrons— properly well, economics, it matters hugely. in: cit matters hugely. i'm joined by gb news business and economics editor liam halligan. liam, you do numbers and— editor liam halligan. liam, you do numbers and sums- 33" liam, you do numbers and sums and things like do numbers and sums and things iiio rnor. — do numbers and sums and things iiio no so— do numbers and sums and things like that. so let's— do numbers and sums and things like that. so let's have a quick rook— like that. so let's have a quick iooy or— like that. so let's have a quick iooy or ino— like that. so let's have a quick look at the numbers and the sums and look at the numbers and the sums oni ino— look at the numbers and the sums and the question— look at the numbers and the sums and the question i— look at the numbers and the sums and the question i really want you— and the question i really want you ro— and the question i really want you so onswon— and the question i really want you to answer is— and the question i really want you to answer is whenever i, in my— you to answer is whenever i, in my poiirisoi— you to answer is whenever i, in my political career— you to answer is whenever i, in my political career talk in 20 yoons— my political career talk in 20 yoors oiour— my political career talk in 20 years about these excess numbers and years about these excess numbers oni ny— years about these excess numbers on my sonson— years about these excess numbers and my concerns about what it nignr— and my concerns about what it nignr io— and my concerns about what it nignr so ro— and my concerns about what it might do to society, i was oiwoys— might do to society, i was oiwoys iori— might do to society, i was always told, ah, but it's a huge economic benefit— always told, ah, but it's a huge economic benefit .— always told, ah, but it's a huge economic benefit . so let's have economic benefit. so let's have a economic benefit. so let's have o rook— economic benefit. so let's have o iooy or— economic benefit. so let's have o iooy or ino— economic benefit. so let's have a look at the numbers and examine that— a look at the numbers and examine that question. i think nrony yoors— examine that question. i think over many years in migration has been an economic benefit to the uk, but it's a question of the

pace and it's a question of whether the public services and the housing can keep up with the pace. otherwise, a lot of the oniginoi— f otherwise, a lot of the original population can really surron. — original population can really suffer. .you've _ original population can really suffer. you've been talking suffer. but you've been talking oiour— about these immigration numbers innougnour— about these immigration numbers innougnour-.— about these immigration numbers rnnougnour-. so- about these immigration numbers throughout , so let's throughout the show, so let's iusr— throughout the show, so let's puss-rook— throughout the show, so let's just-looklthem.. throughout the show, so let's just look them. i've just have a look at them. i've got— just have a look at them. i've gor sono— just have a look at them. i've got some graphics here that rows— got some graphics here that rows-nono— got some graphics here that folks-home can- got some graphics here that folks home can look at the folks at home can look at the roroi— folks at home can look at the total immigration number. nigel, during— total immigration number. nigel, during 2022— total immigration number. nigel, during 2022 was— total immigration number. nigel, during 2022 was 1.2 million. inor-s— during 2022 was 1.2 million. inor-s ino— during 2022 was 1.2 million. that's the population of birmingham.— that's the population of birmingham. the net immigration nurnion— birmingham. the net immigration nurnion inor— birmingham. the net immigration number that we've— birmingham. the net immigration number that we've been talking oiour— number that we've been talking oiour is— number that we've been talking oiour is inor— number that we've been talking about is that number minus poopio— about is that number minus people going— about is that number minus people going to_ about is that number minus people going to australia, sonon— people going to australia, sonoio. ir— people going to australia, canada, if they're youngsters norining— canada, if they're youngsters norining ro— canada, if they're youngsters retiring to spain— canada, if they're youngsters retiring to spain , and that's retiring to spain, and that's wnsrs— retiring to spain, and that's wnono you— retiring to spain, and that's wnoro you go— retiring to spain, and that's where you get the 606,000 number of where you get the 606,000 number or ino— where you get the 606,000 number of sis of— where you get the 606,000 number of sis of ino— where you get the 606,000 number of the of the gross— where you get the 606,000 number of the of the gross 1.2— where you get the 606,000 number of the of the gross 1.2 million ooning— of the of the gross 1.2 million ooning .— of the of the gross 1.2 million ooning . in— of the of the gross 1.2 million coming . in, 925,000 were from coming. in, 925,000 were from oursiio— coming. in, 925,000 were from oursiio ino— coming. in, 925,000 were from outside the eu.— coming. in, 925,000 were from outside the eu. so— coming. in, 925,000 were from outside the eu. so even though roronionougn— outside the eu. so even though peterborough has— outside the eu. so even though peterborough has had an awful lot peterborough has had an awful or or— peterborough has had an awful or or ru— peterborough has had an awful lot of eu migration from poland, iiiiuonio— lot of eu migration from poland, lithuania, romania , that's lithuania, romania, that's osruoiiy— lithuania, romania, that's actually much— lithuania, romania, that's actually much lower now. that's some— actually much lower now. that's oosoo ru— actually much lower now. that's 88,000 eu nationals and alf ironnor— 88,000 eu nationals and alf mehmet from _ 88,000 eu nationals and alf mehmet from migrationwatch was rowing— mehmet from migrationwatch was rowing oiour— mehmet from migrationwatch was talking about the _ mehmet from migrationwatch was talking about the different srnonis— talking about the different srnonis or— talking about the different strands of immigration. i've got rnoso— strands of immigration. i've got rnoso on— strands of immigration. i've got rnoso on o— strands of immigration. i've got those on a graphic— strands of immigration. i've got those on a graphic as well are of those on a graphic as well are or non—ru— those on a graphic as well are

of non—eu immigrants. those on a graphic as well are of non—eu immigrants . 179,000 of non—eu immigrants. 179,000 were on work visas— of non—eu immigrants. 179,000 were on work visas , including were on work visas, including ooponionrs. — were on work visas, including dependents. special visas, hong yong.— dependents. special visas, hong yong. uynoino— dependents. special visas, hong kong, ukraine that was 172,000 osyiun — kong, ukraine that was 172,000 asylum seekers— kong, ukraine that was 172,000 asylum seekers .— kong, ukraine that was 172,000 asylum seekers . that was 73,000. asylum seekers. that was 73,000. ani— asylum seekers. that was 73,000. ans noros— asylum seekers. that was 73,000. ans noros ino— asylum seekers. that was 73,000. and here's the really big one. sruionrs— and here's the really big one. students and— and here's the really big one. students and dependents , 208,000 students and dependents, 208,000 sruionrs— students and dependents, 208,000 sruionrs wiri— students and dependents, 208,000 students with their— students and dependents, 208,000 students with their dependents . students with their dependents. so students with their dependents. so o— students with their dependents. so o nugo — students with their dependents. so a huge number. and then roniiy— so a huge number. and then roniiy .— so a huge number. and then family , dependents, reunions , family, dependents, reunions, ioining— family, dependents, reunions, ioiningroniiy— family, dependents, reunions, joining family members, another zoooo. — joining family members, another zoooo. so— joining family members, another zoooo. so ino— joining family members, another 28,000. so the really big nurnios— 28,000. so the really big numbers that— 28,000. so the really big numbers that stand out there are the numbers that stand out there are is nong— numbers that stand out there are rno nong yong— numbers that stand out there are the hong kong ukraine, 172,000 and the hong kong ukraine, 172,000 oni sruionrs— the hong kong ukraine, 172,000 and students and— the hong kong ukraine, 172,000 and students and dependents , and students and dependents, zooooo — and students and dependents, over 200,000 in— and students and dependents, over 200,000 in a single year. you.— over 200,000 in a single year. yson. nuo— over 200,000 in a single year. yson. iuo orso— over 200,000 in a single year. yeah. but also the— over 200,000 in a single year. yeah. but also the year- over 200,000 in a single year. yeah. but also the year before was half a million. yeah. and you know we're running at numbers historic ten times per annum . well the first year of annum. well the first year of tony— annum. well the first year of iony iioin— annum. well the first year of iony iioin in— annum. well the first year of tony blair in 97— annum. well the first year of tony blair in 97 was- 3“ well the first year of tony blair in 97 was 50,000. yoon. — tony blair in 97 was 50,000. yoon. signs.— tony blair in 97 was 50,000. yeah. right. and— tony blair in 97 was 50,000. yeah. right. and as you said, from— yeah. right. and as you said, from ino— yeah. right. and as you said, from the second— yeah. right. and as you said, from the second world war until inor— from the second world war until rnor sins.— from the second world war until rnor rino. ir— from the second world war until that time, it was— from the second world war until that time, it was roughly 30 or oases.— that time, it was roughly 30 or 40,000, including— that time, it was roughly 30 or 40,000, including my family who came from .west_ 40,000, including my family who came from .west of- 40,000, including my family who came from west of ireland. came from the west of ireland. yoon. — came from the west of ireland. yeah. although— came from the west of ireland. yeah. although i— came from the west of ireland. yeah. although i think- came from the west of ireland. yeah. g came from the west of ireland. yeah. d . yeah. although i think the irish british was slightly british connection was slightly different. right. different. that's right. slightly different. liam as i

say, know, i've done 1 or say, you know, i've done 1 or 2 interviews today and we're all supposed to bow down to the god of gdp as long as gdp goes up, it doesn't really matter if everybody suffers. but i'm beginning to question now with the number of dependents that are coming . and crucially, what are coming. and crucially, what has happened to productivity. we've been hooked on this model of importing large scale unskilled labour. our productivity has gone down, not up. is this what we're looking at today? is this actually good for us economically? i think this is for us economically? i think on is porr— for us economically? i think this is part of— for us economically? i think this is part of the- c.3 i f c i think this is part of the problem. iook— this is part of the problem. or sir— this is part of the problem. look gdp is— this is part of the problem. look gdp is the- this is part of the problem. look gdp is the total sum of transactions— look gdp is the total sum of transactions in— look gdp is the total sum of transactions in the economy. siooss— transactions in the economy. gross domestic— transactions in the economy. gross domestic product gdp goes up wnon— gross domestic product gdp goes up wnon inono— gross domestic product gdp goes up when there are— gross domestic product gdp goes up when there are more people. our— up when there are more people. our wnoi— up when there are more people. but what really— up when there are more people. but what really matters to poopio— but what really matters to poopio in— but what really matters to people in this— but what really matters to people in this room and across the people in this room and across is sounrry— people in this room and across is oounrry is— people in this room and across the country is gdp— people in this room and across the country is gdp per head. as our amendment— the country is gdp per head. as our amendment was saying . and if our amendment was saying. and if the our amendment was saying. and if is nurnion— our amendment was saying. and if is nurnion or— our amendment was saying. and if the number of people here are ooponoing— the number of people here are expanding faster,— the number of people here are expanding faster, proportionally rnon— expanding faster, proportionally rnon sir.— expanding faster, proportionally than gdp, then— expanding faster, proportionally than gdp, then living standards iori— than gdp, then living standards for. ani— than gdp, then living standards for. and you— than gdp, then living standards fall. and you mentioned productivity. _ fall. and you mentioned productivity. that's like the orrisionsy— productivity. that's like the efficiency of— productivity. that's like the efficiency of the economy and the efficiency of the economy and is woy— efficiency of the economy and is woy ro— efficiency of the economy and the way to increase productivity

is ro— the way to increase productivity is so inyosr— the way to increase productivity is to invest in— the way to increase productivity is to invest in technology and or is to invest in technology and on ro— is to invest in technology and on so inyosr— is to invest in technology and or to invest in— is to invest in technology and or to invest in skills. and siooniy— or to invest in skills. and clearly there _ or to invest in skills. and clearly there are those in the sonnoniing— clearly there are those in the commanding heights of industry, nony— commanding heights of industry, nony or— commanding heights of industry, nony or wnon— commanding heights of industry, many of whom donate heavily to iori— many of whom donate heavily to iorn poiirisoi— many of whom donate heavily to both political parties. it must be both political parties. it must is soo— both political parties. it must is soii onoy— both political parties. it must be said they just— both political parties. it must be said they just want endless nounsi— be said they just want endless nounsi or— be said they just want endless rounds of cheaper— be said they just want endless rounds of cheaper labour coming in nornon— rounds of cheaper labour coming in rather than— rounds of cheaper labour coming in rather than training people doing— in rather than training people doing ino— in rather than training people doing the hard— in rather than training people doing the hard thing of training poopio— doing the hard thing of training poopio wno— doing the hard thing of training poopio wno oo— doing the hard thing of training people who are already here, wherever they— people who are already here, wherever they came from. and inor— wherever they came from. and rnor is— wherever they came from. and rnor is o— wherever they came from. and that is a major,— wherever they came from. and that is a major, major problem. i that is a major, major problem. i ininy. — that is a major, major problem. i ininy. ani— that is a major, major problem. i think. and that— that is a major, major problem. i think. and that is the that is ino— i think. and that is the that is is ooson— i think. and that is the that is the reason why— i think. and that is the that is the reason why it's now it is iogirinoro. — the reason why it's now it is iogirinoro. i— the reason why it's now it is legitimate. i think as an legitimate. ! think as an economist— legitimate. ! think as an economist to— legitimate. i think as an economist to question whether rnis— economist to question whether on sorro— economist to question whether this extra immigration that noi— this extra immigration that we've had, given the pace of it, giyon— we've had, given the pace of it, giyon ino— we've had, given the pace of it, given the impact— we've had, given the pace of it, given the impact on people who are given the impact on people who oinooiy— given the impact on people who are already here,— given the impact on people who are already here, is— given the impact on people who are already here, is actually goos— are already here, is actually good ron— are already here, is actually good for ino— are already here, is actually good for the economy. but maybe some news, maybe some good some good news, maybe some good news. on, let's cheer news. come on, let's cheer everybody and tell them their everybody up and tell them their energy to go energy bills are about to go down significantly. well, you've been down significantly. well, you've ioon—rnor- down significantly. well, you've been _that your- been told all day that your onongy— been told all day that your energy-going- been told all day that your energy going to been told all day that your- energy-going to come energy bills are going to come sown— energy bills are going to come down iy— energy bills are going to come down iy ooso.— energy bills are going to come down by £400. and economists, we are down by £400. and economists, we ors—soionrisrs- down by £400. and economists, we are—scientists, but- are the dismal scientists, but i'd are the dismal scientists, but iii-io— are the dismal scientists, but i'd-be dismal- are the dismal scientists, but i'd be dismal than wrong. i'd rather be dismal than wrong. so i'd rather be dismal than wrong. so two— i'd rather be dismal than wrong. so i've-another— i'd rather be dismal than wrong. so i've another graphic so i've got another graphic nons— so i've got another graphic ions-onongy- so i've got another graphic. ions-onongy-oop here. so the energy price cap, rnor-s— here. so the energy price cap, rnor-s ino— here. so the energy price cap, that's the average household's onongy— that's the average household's onorgy iii—

that's the average household's energy bill announced by ofgem this energy bill announced by ofgem inis morning.— energy bill announced by ofgem this morning. it— energy bill announced by ofgem this morning. it will come in in jury.— this morning. it will come in in iuiy. uorss— this morning. it will come in in july. here's another graphic inor— july. here's another graphic that average— july. here's another graphic that average caps cut from 328 smoo— that average caps cut from 328 moo o— that average caps cut from 328 moo o yoon. — that average caps cut from 328 £3,280 a year. energy combined, oiosrnisiry— £3,280 a year. energy combined, electricity and _ £3,280 a year. energy combined, electricity and gas— £3,280 a year. energy combined, electricity and gas to 2074. but inor— electricity and gas to 2074. but rnor ioosn-r— electricity and gas to 2074. but that doesn't mean— electricity and gas to 2074. but that doesn't mean it's going to come down from _ that doesn't mean it's going to come down from 3200 to 2074. its— come down from 3200 to 2074. is going— come down from 3200 to 2074. is going ro— come down from 3200 to 2074. it's going to come— come down from 3200 to 2074. it's going to come down from osoo— it's going to come down from 2500 because _ it's going to come down from 2500 because that's where it's ioon. — 2500 because that's where it's ioon. ino— 2500 because that's where it's been. the average— 2500 because that's where it's been. the average , because been. the average, because inono-s— been. the average, because inono-s ioon— been. the average, because there's been this energy price guononroo— there's been this energy price guarantee arnie— there's been this energy price guarantee arnie in the aftermath of rnis— guarantee arnie in the aftermath or on wo— guarantee arnie in the aftermath or on in— guarantee arnie in the aftermath of this war in ukraine. so if you— of this war in ukraine. so if you so— of this war in ukraine. so if you do ino— of this war in ukraine. so if you do the sums- of this war in ukraine. so if you do the sums of that, that's a you do the sums of that, that's o noiusrion— you do the sums of that, that's a reduction of— you do the sums of that, that's a reduction of £426 per year or no.— a reduction of £426 per year or no for— a reduction of £426 per year or no for ino— a reduction of £426 per year or 17% for the average household . 17% for the average household. it's 17% for the average household. us nor— 17% for the average household. us nor on— 17% for the average household. it's not an overall— 17% for the average household. it's not an overall cap. if you use more, you'll— it's not an overall cap. if you use more, you'll you'll pay ir— use more, you'll you'll pay if you— use more, you'll you'll pay more. if you use- use more, you'll you'll pay more. if you use less. but the ooogo— more. if you use less. but the ooogo unio— more. if you use less. but the average unit cost— more. if you use less. but the average unit cost is set by orgon — average unit cost is set by orgon nosing— average unit cost is set by ofgem having said that, that ooso— ofgem having said that, that £400 reduction— ofgem having said that, that £400 reduction in nigel by july the £400 reduction in nigel by july is pg,— £400 reduction in nigel by july is pg, ir-s— £400 reduction in nigel by july the 1st, it's almost— £400 reduction in nigel by july the 1st, it's almost completely orrsor— the 1st, it's almost completely offset because _ the 1st, it's almost completely offset because the government in the offset because the government in to moon— offset because the government in the march budget— offset because the government in the march budget removed the ooso— the march budget removed the ooso ir— the march budget removed the ooso ir wos— the march budget removed the £400 it was giving to our 32 niiiion— £400 it was giving to our 32 million households in a subsidy for onongy— million households in a subsidy for onongy. ir— million households in a subsidy for energy. it was— million households in a subsidy for energy. it was paid through your— for energy. it was paid through your onongy—

for energy. it was paid through your energy company monthly rnor-s— your energy company monthly rnor-s ioon— your energy company monthly that's been completely removed. so that's been completely removed. so ino— that's been completely removed. so rno onongy— that's been completely removed. so the energy bills— that's been completely removed. so the energy bills are coming sown— so the energy bills are coming down iy— so the energy bills are coming down iy ooso.— so the energy bills are coming down by £400. but the subsidy of ooso— down by £400. but the subsidy of ooso is— down by £400. but the subsidy of ooso is ioing— down by £400. but the subsidy of £400 is being removed. so there nougniy— £400 is being removed. so there rougniy going— £400 is being removed. so there roughly going to_ £400 is being removed. so there roughly going to stay the same. i'm roughly going to stay the same. in sorry— roughly going to stay the same. in sorry ro— roughly going to stay the same. i'm sorry to break— roughly going to stay the same. i'm sorry to break the news, but rnor-s— i'm sorry to break the news, but rnor-s wnoi— i'm sorry to break the news, but that's what the— i'm sorry to break the news, but that's what the maths show. so noping— that's what the maths show. so noping ro— that's what the maths show. so noping ro roy— that's what the maths show. so hoping to try-end- that's what the maths show. so hoping to try end this hoping to try and end this progronno— hoping to try and end this programme on— hoping to try and end this programme on a happy and posiriwo— programme on a happy and positive note,— programme on a happy and positive note, but it's all snoko— positive note, but it's all smoke mirrors. smoke and mirrors. final thought.— smoke and mirrors. final thought. final to talk thought. final subject to talk about. the inflation about. we got the inflation figures this week. they were once again worse than people thought. two quick thoughts on it. number one, do you think inflation is here to stay because the government of the bank of england told us it would all just disappear? transitory, old i mean, an idiot. old boy. i mean, what an idiot. but. and number two, you know, these folk are all doing food shopping. it's really hitting people where do see the people where do you see the future so headline future for them? so headline inriorion— future for them? so headline inflation _from - future for them? so headline. inflation _from 10.8% inflation came down from 10.8% inflation came down from 10.8% in-o.p.— inflation came down from 10.8% in-oi. o— inflation came down from 10.8% in-oi. o muon- inflation came down from 10.8% in 8.7, a much lower in march to 8.7, a much lower noiusrion— in march to 8.7, a much lower reduction than— in march to 8.7, a much lower reduction than people thought. but reduction than people thought. iur roos— reduction than people thought. but food price— reduction than people thought. but food price inflation, astonishingly, was still at 19, wnion— astonishingly, was still at19, wnisn is— astonishingly, was still at19, which is crazy— astonishingly, was still at 19, which is crazy because wholesale roos— which is crazy because wholesale rooi pnisos— which is crazy because wholesale rooo pnisos os— which is crazy because wholesale food prices as many— which is crazy because wholesale food prices as many farmers oouri— food prices as many farmers oouni nono— food prices as many farmers around here will— food prices as many farmers around here will tell you , around here will tell you, wnoiosoio—

around here will tell you, wholesale food prices have been rowing— wholesale food prices have been roiiing osnoss— wholesale food prices have been falling across the _ wholesale food prices have been falling across the world for the rosi— falling across the world for the iosr yoon. — falling across the world for the last year, actually— falling across the world for the last year, actually falling. so i last year, actually falling. so i so— last year, actually falling. so i so rnink— last year, actually falling. so i do think the— last year, actually falling. so i do think the government was nignr— i do think the government was nignr ro— i do think the government was rignr so go— i do think the government was right to get the— i do think the government was right to get the food retailers inro— right to get the food retailers no is — right to get the food retailers into the treasury— right to get the food retailers into the treasury and have a ironi— into the treasury and have a frank exchange— into the treasury and have a frank exchange of views . ' ”iii: into the treasury and have a frank exchange of views . ' ”cl frank exchange of views. are we ioing— frank exchange of views. are we ising rippso— frank exchange of views. are we being ripped off? liam- frank exchange of views. ' ”cl g ” : rir�*”c liam halligan being ripped off? liam halligan wow.— being ripped off? liam halligan woii. ino— being ripped off? liam halligan well, the treasury— being ripped off? liam halligan well, the treasury did- g ” : rir�*”c liam halligan well, the treasury did invite ino— well, the treasury did invite the competition _ well, the treasury did invite the competition and markets aurnoniry— the competition and markets authority into _ the competition and markets authority into that meeting to rook— authority into that meeting to look whether— authority into that meeting to look whether or— authority into that meeting to look whether or not there were snonp — look whether or not there were snorp proorisos— look whether or not there were sharp practises going on, opportunistic— sharp practises going on, opportunistic pricing . again, opportunistic pricing. again, a lot opportunistic pricing. again, a or or— opportunistic pricing. again, a lot of farmers— opportunistic pricing. again, a lot of farmers i— opportunistic pricing. again, a lot of farmers i live in the ooso— lot of farmers i live in the oosr or— lot of farmers i live in the east of england, i live just sown— east of england, i live just down ino— east of england, i live just down the road— east of england, i live just down the road tell me that they rosi— down the road tell me that they too onoy-no — down the road tell me that they feel they're getting a raw deal. it feel they're getting a raw deal. ir sorroiniy— feel they're getting a raw deal. it certainly seems— feel they're getting a raw deal. it certainly seems to me there nos— it certainly seems to me there nos-o— it certainly seems to me there nos-o ior— it certainly seems to me there has a lot unnecessary has been a lot of unnecessary pniso— has been a lot of unnecessary pnioo isos— has been a lot of unnecessary prioo in— has been a lot of unnecessary price rises in recent months wiri— price rises in recent months wirn sono— price rises in recent months with some people in the supply snoin— with some people in the supply snoin oxoning— with some people in the supply chain exerting their power and insnoosing— chain exerting their power and increasing and— chain exerting their power and increasing and keeping inflation nignon— increasing and keeping inflation nignon onon— increasing and keeping inflation nignon rnon ir— increasing and keeping inflation higher than it needs to be. but rook.— higher than it needs to be. but iooy. rnis— higher than it needs to be. but iooy. on is— higher than it needs to be. but look, this is the— higher than it needs to be. but look, this is the worst inflation _ look, this is the worst inflation situation for 40 yos— inflation situation for 40 yos oni— inflation situation for 40 years, and that's why there's inis— years, and that's why there's inis ooso— years, and that's why there's inis sosr or— years, and that's why there's this cost of living crisis, wnisn— this cost of living crisis, wnisn is— this cost of living crisis, which is completely dominating poiiiiss— which is completely dominating poiiriss. ani— which is completely dominating politics. and we're not out of ino— politics. and we're not out of sins woods— politics. and we're not out of the woods yet,— politics. and we're not out of the woods yet, rishi said. inriooion— the woods yet, rishi said. inflation would— the woods yet, rishi said. inflation would be- the woods yet, rishi said. inflation would be 2.9% by christmas. right? i think christmas. is he right? i think i don't think it'll— christmas. is he right? i think i don't think it'll be- 3c ithink i don't think it'll be 2.9% by

onnisrnos.— i don't think it'll be 2.9% by christmas. i— i don't think it'll be 2.9% by christmas. i do— i don't think it'll be 2.9% by christmas. i do think it will be oouri— christmas. i do think it will be oouni 5— christmas. i do think it will be oouni i on— christmas. i do think it will be around 5 or 6. _ christmas. i do think it will be around 5 or 6. so— christmas. i do think it will be around 5 or 6. so he can say inriorion— around 5 or 6. so he can say inriorion is— around 5 or 6. so he can say inflation is halved, but i can't roos— inflation is halved, but i can't see food price— inflation is halved, but i can't see food price inflation coming sown— see food price inflation coming down ony— see food price inflation coming down ony rins— see food price inflation coming down any time soon. well, liam , down any time soon. well, liam, rnonis— down any time soon. well, liam, rnoan ron— down any time soon. well, liam, rnoan ion-us— down any time soon. well, liam, thanks for- us and- thanks forjoining us and snooning— thanks forjoining us and cheering everybody much. cheering everybody up so much. i'm cheering everybody up so much. in just— cheering everybody up so much. i'm just absolutely— cheering everybody up so much. i'm just absolutely marvellous . i'm just absolutely marvellous. well you very much well done. thank you very much indeed now . we like to we're indeed. now. we like to we're going to end the program again with a satirical ditty . yes, with a satirical ditty. yes, absolutely . they're back. it's absolutely. they're back. it's bell and spurling take it away, guys. bell and spurling take it away, guys . harry bell and spurling take it away, guys. harry and meghan, the grew up in a low speed chase . up in a low speed chase. they're looking for a new up in a low speed chase. - they're looking for a new driver inor— they're looking for a new driver rnor isos— they're looking for a new driver rnor iiyos ro— they're looking for a new driver that likes to race.— they're looking for a new driver that likes to race. we know a inor— that likes to race. we know a woman that can't— that likes to race. we know a woman that can't see where the inowo — woman that can't see where the brava man. she— woman that can't see where the brava man. she said she'll take the brava man. she said she'll take is ioi— brava man. she said she'll take is ioi ir— brava man. she said she'll take no ioi n sno— brava man. she said she'll take the job if she can— brava man. she said she'll take the job if she can drive a pace. uoiiy— the job if she can drive a pace. uoiiy oni— the job if she can drive a pace. holly and phil— the job if she can drive a pace. holly and phil are— the job if she can drive a pace. holly and phil are finally innougn— holly and phil are finally innougn .— holly and phil are finally inrougn . ir— holly and phil are finally through . it hasn't been the same through. it hasn't been the same sirso— through. it hasn't been the same

onoy— through. it hasn't been the same since they jumped— through. it hasn't been the same since they jumped the queue. iii-s— since they jumped the queue. iii-s rins— since they jumped the queue. phil's time is— since they jumped the queue. phil's time is over. - since they jumped the queue. c c he's had to phil's time is over. he's had to leave phil's time is over. he's had to iooyo ino— phil's time is over. he's had to leave the sofa.— phil's time is over. he's had to leave the sofa. he's— c c he's had to leave the sofa. he's been crying sown— leave the sofa. he's been crying iown ino— leave the sofa. he's been crying down the phone— leave the sofa. he's been crying down the phone to— leave the sofa. he's been crying down the phone to gordon, the gopnon— down the phone to gordon, the gopnor ron— down the phone to gordon, the gopnor ror uoy— down the phone to gordon, the gopnor ror noy .— down the phone to gordon, the gopher for hey , hey, hey, clyde gopher for hey, hey, hey, clyde us gopher for hey, hey, hey, clyde us soys— gopher for hey, hey, hey, clyde us soys rusr— gopher for hey, hey, hey, clyde us says just how— gopher for hey, hey, hey, clyde us says just how it is . c us says just how it is. phil iono— us says just how it is. phil iosr nio— us says just how it is. phil so his iii.— us says just how it is. phil lost his job, and nigel says, just as it is, just schofield, shut your gob, cause nigel's always on the boat . nigel shut your gob, cause nigel's always on the boat. nigel said it always on the boat. nigel said i wosnr— always on the boat. nigel said it wasn't like— always on the boat. nigel said it wasn't like a— always on the boat. nigel said it wasn't like a car— cit" nigel said it wasn't like a car chase in a nowio— it wasn't like a car chase in a nigno— it wasn't like a car chase in a nignr. — it wasn't like a car chase in a movie night. you- it wasn't like a car chase in a movie night. y/ric. r: 33“ c movie night. you said we can't survive without the british taxpayer night. you say , what taxpayer night. you say, what the taxpayer night. you say, what is noii-s— taxpayer night. you say, what the hell's going— taxpayer night. you say, what the hell's going on? - " 3 you say, what the hell's going on? i; yr gric the hell's going on? he's nigel rorogs. sur— the hell's going on? he's nigel rorogs. iur .— farage. but. sooo- 3 but. good evening. farage. but.- good evening. i'm rorogs. nui.— good evening. i'm alex farage. but. good evening. i'm alex deakin. this is your latest weather forecast from the met office for

gb news news tomorrow, the day after and the day after that will be dry and fine with sunny spells for most pleasantly warm by day. but chilly at night. high pressure is very slowly creeping in. these weather fronts are going to change things a little bit. of course, northern scotland over the next couple days. for the vast couple of days. but for the vast majority under the influence of high pressure, stays dry and high pressure, it stays dry and fine. there's some patches of cloud moment. cloud around at the moment. they'll to break up a they'll tend to break up a little overnight, might turn a little overnight, might turn a little misty. or 2 fog patches little misty. 1 or 2 fog patches are possible through the early hours. the cloud. hours. and there's the cloud. i talked about earlier increasing across the north—west of scotland northern scotland through more northern parts the mainland of parts of the mainland of scotland we get down scotland. we could get down close freezing generally down close to freezing generally down to figures, maybe 10 or to single figures, maybe 10 or 11, where we keep it a bit more cloud. some will start a bit grey on friday, but for grey then on friday, but for most it will be another fine day with cloud with bright sunny spells cloud increasing all the while in the western isles of scotland, a bit of here and by lunchtime of drizzle here and by lunchtime we see a few spots we could see a few spots arriving over the highlands. but for much of scotland and certainly wales,

certainly england, wales, northern fine northern ireland, dry and fine with as with sunny spells, quite warm as well. temperatures into well. temperatures getting into the 20s more the high teens, low 20s more widely, always a bit cooler on some coasts with a bit of a breeze blowing and cooler with that thicker cloud across the far north of scotland, still providing the odd spot of rain over northern isles during over the northern isles during friday evening. but for most of fine friday evening and looking like a fine dry saturday like a fine and dry saturday again, northern scotland seeing more cloud there will be a more cloud and there will be a little of trickling in little bit of rain trickling in here weather front moves little bit of rain trickling in heibut weather front moves little bit of rain trickling in heibut foriveather front moves little bit of rain trickling in heibut for mostar front moves little bit of rain trickling in heibut for most places moves little bit of rain trickling in heibut for most places ,noves little bit of rain trickling in heibut for most places , aives little bit of rain trickling in heibut for most places , a sunny in. but for most places, a sunny spells on saturday and again feeling pleasant in the sunny spells after a bit of a cool start. by the afternoon we'll be up into the low 20s more widely again, some of the beaches will be a little cooler and it will be a little cooler and it will be cooler in northern scotland because of patchy rain because this line of patchy rain is weather front will is a weather front that will introduce turning introduce things turning cooler for of us during the second for more of us during the second half of the weekend. but still , half of the weekend. but still, for most of us, staying dry with sunny spells .

hello. good evening. it's me, jacob - hello. good evening. it's me, roooi osos-nogg— . hello. good evening. it's me, jacob rees—mogg on— hello. good evening. it's me, jacob rees—mogg on state of the worion— jacob rees—mogg on state of the worion .— jacob rees—mogg on state of the nation . tonight,— jacob rees—mogg on state of the nation . tonight, the immigration nation. tonight, the immigration nurnios— nation. tonight, the immigration numbers are in— nation. tonight, the immigration numbers are in another record oni— numbers are in another record oni onornon— numbers are in another record and another missed target for his noiosry-s— and another missed target for his majesty's government. we'll be his majesty's government. we'll is iooying— his majesty's government. we'll is iooying or— his majesty's government. we'll be looking at the— his majesty's government. we'll be looking at the numbers in sosoin— be looking at the numbers in closer detail— be looking at the numbers in closer detail-see- be looking at the numbers in closer detail see how the closer detail to see how the conservatives _ closer detail to see how the conservatives get back to conservatives can get back to ino— conservatives can get back to ins-pioigo- conservatives can get back to. the-pledgelbringing the manifesto pledge of bringing the manifesto pledge of bringing ins-sown.— the manifesto pledge of bringing the down. speaking of the numbers down. speaking of innignorion— the numbers down. speaking of immigration, germany has entered a recession, and in— immigration, germany has entered a recession, and in case you nooon-r— a recession, and in case you haven't noticed— a recession, and in case you haven't noticed it, hasn't haven't noticed it, it hasn't ion— haven't noticed it, it hasn't ion ino— haven't noticed it, it hasn't left the european union . so left the european union. so pornops— left the european union. so pornopsirno— left the european union. so perhaps the britain bashing perhaps all the britain bashing ioononioss— perhaps all the britain bashing romaniacs_to- perhaps all the britain bashing romaniacs_to go. perhaps all the britain bashing romaniacs to go and romaniacs might like to go and live romaniacs might like to go and no insno— romaniacs might like to go and live there .they_ romaniacs might like to go and live there they think brexit, live there if they think brexit, iniroin— live there if they think brexit, iniroin is— live there if they think brexit, britain is such— live there if they think brexit, britain is such disaster, britain is such a disaster, osposioiiy— britain is such a disaster, osposioiiy ir— britain is such a disaster, especially if they think immigration- especially if they think immigration helps economic growin— immigration helps economic gnowrn .— immigration helps economic growrn . arron— immigration helps economic

growth . after all, germans