country is sky high. how.7 i'm asking you tonight, do we get dolly britain back to work and the world health organisation, they are planning a new treaty , they are planning a new treaty, a plan for future pandemics, which would potentially mean that they have the power to dictate to us, the uk, that we have to go into lockdown, dictate things like vaccine passports, quarantine and all the rest of it. i say no, thank you very much. what says you and the whole trans movement? where

are with this? we've seen on are we with this? we've seen on the one side of the fence a cycling body saying that so—called trans women cannot compete a female category . on compete in a female category. on the side of the fence, the other side of the fence, though , a headquarters in though, a headquarters in london, we've seen the police called to have to do a controlled explosion on on something left there by trans activists while they were simultaneous dousing the building with urine. what's going on? and let's face it, a lot of us right now are not massively engaged in politics. where does that start? how do we get ourselves so many people saying you've got to go backwards and start at primary schools and teach politics to the kids? i can't help but wonder, is this just not a kind of subtle way to try and indoctrinate the kids into the politics? let's face it, of predominantly the left wing? am i just being cynical ? you tell i just being cynical? you tell me. we're going to get into all of it with my friday favourites as well, alex dean and paul embry. we let's embry. but before we do, let's bnng embry. but before we do, let's bring to speed with bring ourselves up to speed with the . news thank you very much ,

the. news thank you very much, michelle.— the. news thank you very much, michelle. rm— the. news thank you very much, michelle. i'm rory— \ thank you very much, michelle. i'm rory smith in the gb newsroom— michelle. i'm rory smith in the gb .— michelle. i'm rory smith in the gb newsroom . a— michelle. i'm rory smith in the gb newsroom . a man has been gb newsroom. a man has been jailed— gb newsroom. a man has been jailed for— gb newsroom. a man has been jailed for me— gb newsroom. a man has been jailed for life with— gb newsroom. a man has been jailed for life with a minimum term — jailed for life with a minimum term of— jailed for life with a minimum term of 32— jailed for life with a minimum term of 32 years— jailed for life with a minimum term of 32 years for the murder of 15— term of 32 years for the murder of 15 month— term of 32 years for the murder of 15 month old— term of 32 years for the murder of 15 month old jacob lennon. jake— of 15 month old jacob lennon. jake drummond,_ of 15 month old jacob lennon. jake drummond, the partner of the toddler's— jake drummond, the partner of the toddler's mother, was jailed following— the toddler's mother, was jailed feuewine e— the toddler's mother, was jailed following a campaign of cruel and— following a campaign of cruel and sadistic— following a campaign of cruel and sadistic abuse. the boy suffered— and sadistic abuse. the boy suffered multiple injuries over a suffered multiple injuries over eehree— suffered multiple injuries over eehree week— suffered multiple injuries over a three week period in 2019. the victim-e— a three week period in 2019. the victim's mother,— a three week period in 2019. the victim's mother, louise lennon, jenee— victim's mother, louise lennon, jailed for— victim's mother, louise lennon, was jailed for ten— victim's mother, louise lennon, was jailed for ten years for allowing— was jailed for ten years for allowing jacob's death . the allowing jacob's death. the parente— allowing jacob's death. the parents ef— allowing jacob's death. the parents of e— allowing jacob's death. the parents of a ten— allowing jacob's death. the parents of a ten month old boy who— parents of a ten month old boy who murdered— parents of a ten month old boy who murdered him on christmas day in— who murdered him on christmas day in me— who murdered him on christmas day in 2020 have— who murdered him on christmas day in 2020 have been jailed for me. — day in 2020 have been jailed for me. finley— day in 2020 have been jailed for life. finley boden's_ day in 2020 have been jailed for life. finley boden's mother, shaman— life. finley boden's mother, shannon morrison , was given a shannon morrison, was given a ii— shannon morrison, was given a ieim— shannon morrison, was given a minimum term of— shannon morrison, was given a minimum term of 27 years whilst his fame,— minimum term of 27 years whilst his father, steven— minimum term of 27 years whilst his father, steven boden, was given— his father, steven boden, was given a— his father, steven boden, was given a minimum of 29 years. the iam— given a minimum of 29 years. the iaiw wa— given a minimum of 29 years. the iaiw iawem— given a minimum of 29 years. the baby was taken into— given a minimum of 29 years. the baby was taken into care shortly aiiei— baby was taken into care shortly aiiei imm— baby was taken into care shortly after birth due— baby was taken into care shortly after birth due to— baby was taken into care shortly after birth due to child protection— after birth due to child protection concerns, but he was put— protection concerns, but he was am iam— protection concerns, but he was am back ima— protection concerns, but he was put back into his— protection concerns, but he was

put back into his parents care . put back into his parents care. mei— put back into his parents care. we ee— put back into his parents care. we ea aawe— put back into his parents care. just 39 days before he died. ieiiee— just 39 days before he died. ieiiee sav— just 39 days before he died. police say the— just 39 days before he died. police say the pair were jailed for am— police say the pair were jailed for an incompris_ police say the pair were jailed for an incompris sensible crime . mien— for an incompris sensible crime . eaaem ami— for an incompris sensible crime . boden and marsden.- for an incompris sensible crime . boden and marsden. from the moment finley returned to their care throughout the trial after conviction and even at sentence that have never taken responsibility for their actions , they lied and obstructive professionals who were attempting to see finley to establish that he was being cared for in the correct manner . the first minister of wales has held a meeting in cardiff after the deaths of two teenagers sparked a riot. 16 year old kyrees sullivan and 15 year— year old kyrees sullivan and 15 year aid— year old kyrees sullivan and 15 year aia wawew— year old kyrees sullivan and 15 year old harvey evans were wiiiei— year old harvey evans were killed while— year old harvey evans were killed while riding an e—bike . killed while riding an e—bike. me— killed while riding an e—bike. iiie peiiee— killed while riding an e—bike. the police watchdog is investigating after cctv footage emerged— investigating after cctv footage emerged mai— investigating after cctv footage emerged that shows a police van iaiiewimd— emerged that shows a police van iaiiewimd me — emerged that shows a police van following the teens just before mei— following the teens just before their deaths— following the teens just before their deaths ._ following the teens just before their deaths . cars were set their deaths. cars were set adam— their deaths. cars were set alight. window— their deaths. cars were set alight. window bars were smashed

in die— alight. window bars were smashed in the violence— alight. window bars were smashed in the violence afterwards , with in the violence afterwards, with mae— in the violence afterwards, with aeepie — in the violence afterwards, with nine people arrested following the nine people arrested following me disorder— nine people arrested following the disorder ._ nine people arrested following the disorder. police in northern weiamd— the disorder. police in northern weiamd mave— the disorder. police in northern ireland have released new iaeiade— ireland have released new ieeiade ei— ireland have released new footage of several vehicles used by me— footage of several vehicles used by me gmmam— footage of several vehicles used by the gunman in— footage of several vehicles used by the gunman in connection with the by the gunman in connection with me aiiempied— by the gunman in connection with the attempted murder of a senior geiiee— the attempted murder of a senior police detective.— the attempted murder of a senior police detective. detective diei— police detective. detective chief inspector— police detective. detective chief inspector john caldwell emai— chief inspector john caldwell was shot several— chief inspector john caldwell was shot several times whilst eeadiimg— was shot several times whilst eeadaimg a— was shot several times whilst coaching a youth— was shot several times whilst coaching a youth football team at coaching a youth football team ai a— coaching a youth football team ai a spade— coaching a youth football team at a sports centre— coaching a youth football team at a sports centre in omagh last ieiwaaw— at a sports centre in omagh last ieiwaaw .— at a sports centre in omagh last february . officers— at a sports centre in omagh last february . officers believe the february. officers believe the diam— february. officers believe the black mercedes— february. officers believe the black mercedes benz was used iam— black mercedes benz was used dam defere— black mercedes benz was used both before and— black mercedes benz was used both before and after the attack to both before and after the attack id damped— both before and after the attack to transport the _ both before and after the attack to transport the gunman and edem— to transport the gunman and adieie away— to transport the gunman and others away from the scene. nine and— others away from the scene. nine and awe— others away from the scene. nine men and two women aged between 21 men and two women aged between zi and— men and two women aged between zi amd 72— men and two women aged between zi and n wee— men and two women aged between 21 and 72 were arrested this morning — 21 and 72 were arrested this morning. will— 21 and 72 were arrested this morning. will detective chief superintendent— morning. will detective chief superintendent eamonn corrigan madde— superintendent eamonn corrigan wewide am— superintendent eamonn corrigan provide an update— superintendent eamonn corrigan provide an update on those ameeied— provide an update on those ameeied e— provide an update on those arrested ? and— provide an update on those arrested ? and they've been taken arrested? and they've been taken to arrested? and they've been taken ie we — arrested? and they've been taken id me seiidae— arrested? and they've been taken to the serious crime suite in iiaegiawe— to the serious crime suite in musgrave police— to the serious crime suite in musgrave police station, where mew— musgrave police station, where mew ae— musgrave police station, where they are currently— musgrave police station, where they are currently being questioned— they are currently being questioned by detectives . questioned by detectives. the awed— questioned by detectives. the arrests are a significant development in the investigation today. i am also releasing new

cctv footage and photographs of a number of cars used by the gunmen and those involved on the night of and prior to john's attempt at murder nana on wednesday, the 22nd of february, a an 18 year old teenager has been arrested again just days after being fined for entering someone's home without permission. ms e posted a video on permission. ms e posted a video did a dead— permission. ms e posted a video on a social media— permission. ms e posted a video on a social media of— iii" ms e posted a video on a social media of the arrest mie— on a social media of the arrest die mdmimg— on a social media of the arrest die mdmimg .— on a social media of the arrest this morning . well, earlier this this morning. well, earlier this week,— this morning. well, earlier this week, we— this morning. well, earlier this week, he pleaded— this morning. well, earlier this week, he pleaded guilty and addidgieed— week, he pleaded guilty and apologised after being handed a eiimimai— apologised after being handed a criminal behaviour order for iiimimg— criminal behaviour order for filming himself, entering miwaie— filming himself, entering private residences and posting daem— private residences and posting deem dw— private residences and posting them on social— private residences and posting them on social media. he appeared— them on social media. he appeared ai— them on social media. he appeared at thames magistrates cdari— appeared at thames magistrates cdari ard— appeared at thames magistrates cdari amd mae— appeared at thames magistrates court and has been fined . £365. court and has been fined. £365. an court and has been fined. £365. rm ii— court and has been fined. £365. rm ii wear— court and has been fined. £365. rm ii year did— court and has been fined. £365. an 11 year old boy— court and has been fined. £365. an 11 year old boy is in eriiieai— an 11 year old boy is in critical condition after being hit critical condition after being iii dw— critical condition after being iii by a— critical condition after being mm by a adiiee— critical condition after being hit by a police car in lancaster . irre— hit by a police car in lancaster . iire idree— hit by a police car in lancaster . the force says— hit by a police car in lancaster . the force says it— hit by a police car in lancaster . the force says it was aiiemdimg— . the force says it was attending an- . the force says it was attending an emergency call when the attending an emergency call when we ediiieidm— attending an emergency call when the collision occurred late last migiri. — the collision occurred late last migiri. irre— the collision occurred late last night. the officers are working

to night. the officers are working id eeiaiiiem— night. the officers are working to establish what— night. the officers are working to establish what exactly happened— to establish what exactly happened and has referred the imeidemi— happened and has referred the imeidemi id— happened and has referred the incident to the— happened and has referred the incident to the police watchdog . irre— incident to the police watchdog . iire dairie— incident to the police watchdog . the battle of— incident to the police watchdog . the battle of the— incident to the police watchdog . the battle of the atlantic commemorations have been taking grade— commemorations have been taking giaee im— commemorations have been taking place in liverpool— commemorations have been taking place in liverpool with the princess— place in liverpool with the princess royal— place in liverpool with the princess royal as the guest of mdmdar— princess royal as the guest of mdmdar ii— princess royal as the guest of honour. it was— princess royal as the guest of honour. it was the— princess royal as the guest of honour. it was the longest miiiiaw— honour. it was the longest military campaign in world war ii. military campaign in world war ii. a— military campaign in world war ii. a service— military campaign in world war ii. a service has— military campaign in world war ii. a service has been held and edmeiaded— ii. a service has been held and concluded in— ii. a service has been held and concluded in a— ii. a service has been held and concluded in a fly—past by media— concluded in a fly—past by historic aircraft— concluded in a fly—past by historic aircraft on the 80th anniversary— historic aircraft on the 80th anniversary. her— historic aircraft on the 80th anniversary. her royal highness rdrmaiiw— anniversary. her royal highness formally unveiled— anniversary. her royal highness formally unveiled the new battle of formally unveiled the new battle di dre— formally unveiled the new battle of the atlantic— formally unveiled the new battle of the atlantic memorial garden waii. — of the atlantic memorial garden waii. dwe— of the atlantic memorial garden waii. dme dr— of the atlantic memorial garden wall. one of the— of the atlantic memorial garden wall. one of the veterans, ken demidw— wall. one of the veterans, ken demidw ,— wall. one of the veterans, ken demidw , idid— wall. one of the veterans, ken benbow , told gb— wall. one of the veterans, ken benbow , told gb news he will benbow, told gb news he will idrgei— benbow, told gb news he will never forget what _ benbow, told gb news he will never forget what he went mrdagm — never forget what he went mrdagm i— never forget what he went through. i went in as a boy. i dai— through. i went in as a boy. i came out as a— through. i went in as a boy. i came out as a man- through. i went in as a boy. i came out as a man .- through. i went in as a boy. i came out as a man. i- through. i went in as a boy. came out as a man. i left school. i couldn't read or write everything i did . school. i couldn't read or write everything i did. i school. i couldn't read or write everything i did . i learned from everything i did. i learned from arnie . everything i did. i learned from arnie. i everything i did. i learned from arnie . i learned from the navy . arnie. i learned from the navy. im— arnie. i learned from the navy. i-m dread— arnie. i learned from the navy. i-m dread di— arnie. i learned from the navy. i'm proud of and— arnie. i learned from the navy. i'm proud of and i— arnie. i learned from the navy. i'm proud of and i thank the navy.

i'm proud of and i thank the navy . bless them i'm proud of and i thank the navy. bless them . pope i'm proud of and i thank the navy . bless them . pope francis navy. bless them. pope francis has navy. bless them. pope francis mae dripped— navy. bless them. pope francis has skipped meetings- were pope francis has skipped meetings today because— has skipped meetings today because di— has skipped meetings today because of a— has skipped meetings today because of a fever. the vatican mam-i— because of a fever. the vatican hasn't provided _ because of a fever. the vatican hasn't provided any more details on hasn't provided any more details did me— hasn't provided any more details did me ee— hasn't provided any more details did me see wear— hasn't provided any more details on the 86 year old's health, but mae— on the 86 year old's health, but was said— on the 86 year old's health, but was add me— on the 86 year old's health, but has said he didn't— on the 86 year old's health, but has said he didn't receive amdmew— has said he didn't receive anoney im— has said he didn't receive anyone in audiences this mdmimg.— anyone in audiences this mdmimg. ii— anyone in audiences this morning. it comes after he spent five— morning. it comes after he spent five days— morning. it comes after he spent five days im— morning. it comes after he spent five days in hospital . that was five days in hospital. that was at five days in hospital. that was ai dre— five days in hospital. that was ai we end— five days in hospital. that was ai we end di— five days in hospital. that was at the end of march for bronchitis,— at the end of march for bronchitis, but he recovered gwieiiw— bronchitis, but he recovered quickly following a course of antibiotics— quickly following a course of antibiotics ._ quickly following a course of antibiotics . tv— quickly following a course of antibiotics . tv online dab+ antibiotics. tv online dab+ radid— antibiotics. tv online dab+ radid amd— antibiotics. tv online dab+ radio and on— antibiotics. tv online dab+ radio and on tunein. this is gb newe— radio and on tunein. this is gb wewe ward— radio and on tunein. this is gb news nato back— radio and on tunein. this is gb news nato back to michel . news nato back to michel. hemis— news nato back to michel. l marks for— news nato back to michel. i thanks for that.- news nato back to michel. - thanks for that. i'm. thanks for that. i'm michelle dewberry till 7:00 dewberry with you till 7:00 tonight. me, alex tonight. alongside me, alex dean, the political consultant, and embery, author , and paul embery, the author, firemen trade unionists are firemen and trade unionists are now bare faced man or bare faced man. i was getting sick and dred— man. i was getting sick and iired di— man. i was getting sick and iired di dre— man. i was getting sick and tired of the prince- i was getting sick and tired of the prince harry jibe, so tired of the prince harry jibe, ed i— tired of the prince harry jibe, ed i mdagiri—

tired of the prince harry jibe, so i thought people telling me to so i thought people telling me id gd— so i thought people telling me id gd-id— so i thought people telling me to go to california the to go back to california the wide— to go back to california the wide-id- to go back to california the whole-to come. to go back to california thei whole-to come off. to go back to california the- whole-to come off. was whole time had to come off. was mai— whole time had to come off. was mar wrai— whole time had to come off. was mar wirai ii— whole time had to come off. was that what it was? _ whole time had to come off. was that what it was? i— whole time had to come off. was that what it was? “iii: c that what it was? i assumed it was. are you sure? i assumed it was. are you sure? i assumed it was for the summer. i thought you were beard in the winter. you were a beard in the winter. and then, like the bear emerging from hibernation, paul it from hibernation, paul shaves it all. it's partly all. it's that and partly my wife— all. it's that and partly my wife-trousers- all. it's that and partly my wife-trousers in. wife wears the trousers in our reiaiimeirig— wife wears the trousers in our relationship, and— wife wears the trousers in our relationship, and she's never iiwed— relationship, and she's never died-dire.- relationship, and she's never liked-she. she- relationship, and she's never liked she. she won relationship, and she's never. liked-she. she won the liked it. so so she. she won the day— liked it. so so she. she won the day we— liked it. so so she. she won the day you mad— liked it. so so she. she won the day you mad wdar— liked it. so so she. she won the day you had your way for a while derdre. — day you had your way for a while before. -didn't_ day you had your way for a while before. -didn'tindeed.- day you had your way for a while before. r: r: " c 3: he before. you didn't indeed. he looks before. you didn't indeed. he iddwe very— before. you didn't indeed. he looks very smooth.— before. 4:3. r: r: c 3: he looks very smooth. everyone. i-we— looks very smooth. everyone. i-we-a— looks very smooth. everyone. i-we-a eidee— looks very smooth. everyone. i've-a close up- looks very smooth. everyone. i've-a close up of- looks very smooth. everyone. i've a close up of him. i've got a close up of him. vda-we— i've got a close up of him. vda-we mad— i've got a close up of him. you've had your- i've got a close up of him. you've had your eyebrows irimmed. — you've had your eyebrows trimmed. it's— you've had your eyebrows trimmed. c ”g trimmed. it's all flattery will get you everywhere. yeah, he looks. get you everywhere. yeah, he iddke. liddwe— get you everywhere. yeah, he looks. . looks very - get you everywhere. yeah, he looks. .looks very sleek. . git; yeah, he looks. looks very sleek. so looks. he looks very sleek. so you— looks. he looks very sleek. so we dd— looks. he looks very sleek. so you dd amwwaw— looks. he looks very sleek. so you do anyway, welcome. welcome daem— back. thank you. i'll stop rdeaeimg— back. thank you. i'll stop| ideaeimg—wda back. thank you. i'll stop- focusing_you might focusing you because you might not focusing you because you might mdi edme— focusing you because you might mdi edme-agaim— focusing you because you might not come again anyway. not come back again anyway. sidi— not come back again anyway. shard—wa- not come back again anyway. shall—you know. not come back again anyway.l shall—you know the shall i move on? you know the driii— shall i move on? you know the gig, ddm-i— shall i move on? you know the drill, don't you?— shall i move on? you know the drill, don't you? it's not just adder— drill, don't you? it's not just adder-mem- drill, don't you? it's not just about-even if- drill, don't you? it's not just about-even if he. drill, don't you? it's not just about even if he is about us three. even if he is silky— about us three. even if he is eiiww—wdai silky smooth. it's about you guys— silky smooth. it's about you guyslhome_ silky smooth. it's about you guyslhome ae— silky smooth. it's about you guys home as well. get in guys at home as well. get in idaem — guys at home as well. get in touch. what's— guys at home as well. get in touch. what's on— guys at home as well. get in touch. what's on your mind iddigiid— touch. what's on your mind tonight, everybody? vaiews@gbnews.uk or you can iweei— vaiews@gbnews.uk or you can weer-ed— vaiews@gbnews.uk or you can tweet-gb news.- vaiews@gbnews.uk or you can tweet gb news. also, tell vaiews@gbnews.uk or you can twee have gb news. also, tell vaiews@gbnews.uk or you can twee have youib news. also, tell vaiews@gbnews.uk or you can twee have you got ews. also, tell vaiews@gbnews.uk or you can twee have you got any also, tell vaiews@gbnews.uk or you can twee have you got any interesting me, have you got any interesting diame— me, have you got any interesting diam idi— me, have you got any interesting diam idr me— me, have you got any interesting plans for the holiday? no plans for the bank holiday? no reason for asking. _ plans for the bank holiday? no reason for asking. i'm just being— reason for asking. i'm just being_frankly.| being nosy, quite frankly. i imi— being nosy, quite frankly. i idea—wrai- being nosy, quite frankly. i. just—what you're being nosy, quite frankly. i- just—what you're up just want to know what you're up to. just want to know what you're up id-iamw— just want to know what you're up to.-bank holidays— just want to know what you're up to. bank holidays even mean to. the bank holidays even mean amwdrimg— to. the bank holidays even mean awarding-gaye— to. the bank holidays even mean mdmimg-gave, dr- to. the bank holidays even mean anything-guys, or is- to. the bank holidays even mean

anything guys, or is it anything to you guys, or is it idea— anything to you guys, or is it iwei amdme— anything to you guys, or is it just another day? and just all the just another day? and just all me ame— just another day? and just all me dame-me- just another day? and just all the same, me anyway, the same, you tell me anyway, mie— the same, you tell me anyway, mid—migra- the same, you tell me anyway, this—high profile. this week, in a high profile regai— this week, in a high profile legal-prince- this week, in a high profile legal prince harry lost legal case, prince harry lost mie— legal case, prince harry lost irie aiiemgi— legal case, prince harry lost his attempt to— legal case, prince harry lost his attempt to hire the metropolia_ his attempt to hire the metropolia police force. the argamemi— metropolia police force. the argument was— metropolia police force. the argument was clear the police amd— argument was clear the police and adi— argument was clear the police and mi rdr— argument was clear the police and not for sale— argument was clear the police and not for sale for the private eeeariw— and not for sale for the private eeeariw di— and not for sale for the private security of individuals. well wim— security of individuals. well wide drai— security of individuals. well with that verdict fresh in my mind— with that verdict fresh in my mind .— with that verdict fresh in my mind , i— with that verdict fresh in my mind , i cannot— with that verdict fresh in my mind , i cannot help but feel mind, i cannot help but feel irdaiied— mind, i cannot help but feel irdaiied iw— mind, i cannot help but feel troubled by something because wiriie— troubled by something because wiriie ii— troubled by something because wiriie ii migrai— troubled by something because while it might be— troubled by something because while it might be true re the mdmew— while it might be true re the mdmew i— while it might be true re the money, i cannot— while it might be true re the money, i cannot help but feel drai— money, i cannot help but feel mar mere— money, i cannot help but feel that there is— money, i cannot help but feel that there is a— money, i cannot help but feel that there is a group right now wid— that there is a group right now wird are— that there is a group right now who are indeed— that there is a group right now who are indeed using the police as wind— who are indeed using the police as some kind of— who are indeed using the police as some kind of de facto private eeeariw. — as some kind of de facto private eeeariw. i— as some kind of de facto private security. i refer— as some kind of de facto private security. i refer ,_ as some kind of de facto private security. i refer , of— as some kind of de facto private security. i refer , of course, to security. i refer, of course, to die— security. i refer, of course, to the mollycoddling of the just side— the mollycoddling of the just side did— the mollycoddling of the just stop oil protesters, people who for stop oil protesters, people who idr adder— stop oil protesters, people who idr aidai a— stop oil protesters, people who for about a year— stop oil protesters, people who for about a year now have been causing— for about a year now have been causing severe disruption to idea— causing severe disruption to idea imi— causing severe disruption to foca were just desperate to go adder— foca were just desperate to go aidai diei— foca were just desperate to go about their daily— foca were just desperate to go about their daily business day arier— about their daily business day aiier daw— about their daily business day aiier daw .— about their daily business day after day . now— about their daily business day after day . now people are after day. now people are deemed— after day. now people are prevented going work after day. now people are- prevented - going .work , prevented from going to work, gearing— prevented from going to work, getting hospitals or just getting to hospitals or just ever-diei- getting to hospitals or justi even-pick.their even going to pick up their wide. — even going to pick up their wide. wave— even going to pick up their kids. havellook- even going to pick up their kids. have look at this, for kids. have a look at this, for exampie— kids. have a look at this, for example-frankly- example. this, frankly outrageous— example. this, frankly outrageous scene the old example. this, frankly— outrageous scene .the old kent outrageous scene at the old kent iedad. — outrageous scene at the old kent iedad. veg,— outrageous scene at the old kent iedad. veg, me— outrageous scene at the old kent road. yep, the one— outrageous scene at the old kent road. yep, the one from the iidmdgdiw— road. yep, the one from the monopoly board— road. yep, the one from the monopoly board in london today .

monopoly board in london today. mar-e— monopoly board in london today. mar-e weari— monopoly board in london today. mar-e weam .— monopoly board in london today. mar-e weam , ii— monopoly board in london today. that's yeah , it does have that's yeah, it does have a mdegiiai. — that's yeah, it does have a hospital. and— that's yeah, it does have a hospital. and you- that's yeah, it does have a hospital. r: gs yes. hospital. and you guys. yes. i ddm-i— hospital. and you guys. yes. i don't believe— hospital. and you guys. yes. i don't believe that's— hospital. r: gs yes. i don't believe that's the case. he needs— don't believe that's the case. he needs id— don't believe that's the case. he needs id gd— don't believe that's the case. he needs to go like- don't believe that's the case. he needs to go like weasel. sir yeah . yeah, yeah . why your joke yeah. yeah, yeah. why your joke 7 yeah. yeah, yeah. why your joke ? ream— yeah. yeah, yeah. why your joke i wear . vda— yeah. yeah, yeah. why your joke ? yeah. you did— yeah. yeah, yeah. why your joke ? / you did hear and see ? yeah. you did hear and see mar,— ? yeah. you did hear and see draw rigidi— ? yeah. you did hear and see that, right? the— ? / you did hear and see that, right? the police officer gdee— that, right? the police officer gdee ag— that, right? the police officer gdee up rd— that, right? the police officer gdee up rd me— that, right? the police officer goes up to the protester and exgiaime— goes up to the protester and explains that— goes up to the protester and explains that a— goes up to the protester and explains that a driver needed to get explains that a driver needed to ger mrdagir— explains that a driver needed to get through because had an get through because he had an argemr— get through because he had an urgent hospital— get through because he had an urgent hospital appointment as you guer— urgent hospital appointment as you iwer mead.— urgent hospital appointment as you just heard. then the ardreerer— you just heard. then the protester declares, well, i ddm-r— protester declares, well, i don't believe _ protester declares, well, i don't believe that that is the amd— don't believe that that is the case and refuse— don't believe that that is the case and refuse to move. of dre— case and refuse to move. of course, the police- case and refuse to move. of course, the police officer did aiediareiw— course, the police officer did absolutely nothing. and then whar— absolutely nothing. and then wirar wda-we— absolutely nothing. and then what you've just— absolutely nothing. and then what you've just seen then is me— what you've just seen then is the understandably the very understandably frustrated _ the very understandably frustrated over the very understandably- frustrated -over mounting frustrated driver over mounting the frustrated driver over mounting die—wider- frustrated driver over mounting die—wider .- frustrated driver over mounting die—wider , dw- frustrated driver over mounting the _which , by the. frustrated driver over mounting. the _which , by the way, the pavement, which, by the way, was the pavement, which, by the way, wad-mid— the pavement, which, by the way, was full pedestrians . was chock full of pedestrians. dmd— was chock full of pedestrians. dad-ire — was chock full of pedestrians. dad-ire gdee.- was chock full of pedestrians. and he goes. frankly and then off he goes. frankly i geredmaiiw— and then off he goes. frankly i personally think— and then off he goes. frankly i personally think it was a made— personally think it was a miracle that— personally think it was a miracle that nobody was hurt. now:— miracle that nobody was hurt. wdw, mada— miracle that nobody was hurt. wdw, made di— miracle that nobody was hurt. now, much of this concerns me, im— now, much of this concerns me, am adr— now, much of this concerns me, am mdr deadw—

now, much of this concerns me, but not least, the— now, much of this concerns me, but not least, the fact that die— but not least, the fact that this protester— but not least, the fact that this protester believes that he dmedirw— this protester believes that he dmedirw mae— this protester believes that he somehow has this weird ability, aimder— somehow has this weird ability, almost entitlement, somehow has this weird ability, almost entitlement , to almost almost entitlement, to almost try almost entitlement, to almost rrw amd— almost entitlement, to almost my and draw— almost entitlement, to almost my and draw edd— almost entitlement, to almost try and play god to decide who indeed— try and play god to decide who indeed is— try and play god to decide who indeed is iii— try and play god to decide who indeed is ill and— try and play god to decide who indeed is ill and who should be aide— indeed is ill and who should be aide rd— indeed is ill and who should be able to access— indeed is ill and who should be able to access health care. so dre— able to access health care. so we arrdamgee— able to access health care. so the arrogance of— able to access health care. so the arrogance of this fella to me— the arrogance of this fella to me daw— the arrogance of this fella to me truly knows— the arrogance of this fella to me truly knows no bounds. and by the me truly knows no bounds. and by me way,— me truly knows no bounds. and by me waw i— me truly knows no bounds. and by me waw i dd— me truly knows no bounds. and by are way, i dd adr— me truly knows no bounds. and by the way, i do not condone the aeridm— the way, i do not condone the aims di— the way, i do not condone the actions of the— the way, i do not condone the actions of the driver, but i do amdereramd— actions of the driver, but i do understand them— actions of the driver, but i do understand them because now memeirs— understand them because now memeirs di— understand them because now members of the— understand them because now members of the public are being desired— members of the public are being pushed rd— members of the public are being pushed rd dre— members of the public are being pushed to the absolute limit by the pushed to the absolute limit by me seirism— pushed to the absolute limit by the selfish, selfish, absorbed wdrwsiw— the selfish, selfish, absorbed workshy-terroris- the selfish, selfish, absorbed workshy terroris . yes, you workshy eco terroris. yes, you wiri— workshy eco terroris. yes, you wiii ire — workshy eco terroris. yes, you will be familiar,— workshy eco terroris. yes, you will be familiar, i'm sure, with dis— will be familiar, i'm sure, with dis seme— will be familiar, i'm sure, with this scene that— will be familiar, i'm sure, with this scene that i'm playing out on this scene that i'm playing out did me— this scene that i'm playing out on the screen. _ this scene that i'm playing out on the screen. the— this scene that i'm playing out on the screen. the workman who arresred— on the screen. the workman who was arrested just— on the screen. the workman who was arrested just this week for desiring— was arrested just this week for pushing protesters out of the mad,— pushing protesters out of the road,-guessed- pushing protesters out of the road,-guessed it- pushing protesters out of the road, guessed it, pushing protesters out of the road, guessed it , the police road, you guessed it, the police immediareiw— road, you guessed it, the police immediately rounded on him with whar— immediately rounded on him with war i— immediately rounded on him with war i wdaid— immediately rounded on him with what i would say— immediately rounded on him with what i would say was more what i would say was way more race— what i would say was way more idree dram— what i would say was way more force than was— what i would say was way more force than was necessary or used in die— force than was necessary or used in me iirsr— force than was necessary or used in the first place. _ force than was necessary or used in the first place. now surely is— in the first place. now surely is dear— in the first place. now surely is dear rd— in the first place. now surely it's clear to all— in the first place. now surely it's clear to all that can see mar— it's clear to all that can see mar me— it's clear to all that can see that the police _ it's clear to all that can see that the police these days seem more concerned _ that the police these days seem more concerned with protecting amd— more concerned with protecting and facilitating _ more concerned with protecting and facilitating this eco remdrism — and facilitating this eco terrorism they do much and facilitating this eco- terrorism -they do much else terrorism than they do much else on terrorism than they do much else did me— terrorism than they do much else did me side— terrorism than they do much else did me side dr— terrorism than they do much else on the side of the— terrorism than they do much else on the side of the disruptors raiser— on the side of the disruptors radrer mam— on the side of the disruptors rather than the _ on the side of the disruptors rather than the disrupted. but you— rather than the disrupted. but we see— rather than the disrupted. but you im— rather than the disrupted. but you see in this—

rather than the disrupted. but you see in this country we have me— you see in this country we have me mdiie— you see in this country we have the noble concept— you see in this country we have the noble concept of policing by edmsemr— the noble concept of policing by edmemr amd— the noble concept of policing by consent and the— the noble concept of policing by consent and the common consent of consent and the common consent di me— consent and the common consent di me dairie— consent and the common consent di me gwiiie rd— consent and the common consent of the public to being policed is key— of the public to being policed is key .— of the public to being policed is key . dar— of the public to being policed is key . but the— of the public to being policed is key . but the longer that this is key. but the longer that this eco terrorism _ is key. but the longer that this eco terrorism is— is key. but the longer that this eco terrorism is allowed to take grade— eco terrorism is allowed to take diaee .— eco terrorism is allowed to take giaee , amd— eco terrorism is allowed to take giaee , and i— eco terrorism is allowed to take place , and i would— eco terrorism is allowed to take place , and i would argue place, and i would argue facilitated,— place, and i would argue facilitated, i— place, and i would argue facilitated, i worry that we are going— facilitated, i worry that we are gdimg rd— facilitated, i worry that we are gdimg rd see— facilitated, i worry that we are going to see people all trying to going to see people all trying rd ddiiee— going to see people all trying rd gdiiee dre— going to see people all trying to police the situation themselves.- to police the situation themselves. and i worry that sdmeiddw— themselves. and i worry that somebody soon— themselves. and i worry that somebody soon is going to get seridasiw— somebody soon is going to get seridasiw mari— somebody soon is going to get seriously hurt or— somebody soon is going to get seriously hurt or worse . and seriously hurt or worse. and wiser— seriously hurt or worse. and when mar— seriously hurt or worse. and when that happens, if you ask me— when that happens, if you ask we reduce— when that happens, if you ask me, the police bosses will have iiddd— me, the police bosses will have iiddd dm— me, the police bosses will have blood on their— me, the police bosses will have blood on their hands. let me mdw— blood on their hands. let me mdw whar— blood on their hands. let me know what you— blood on their hands. let me know what you think at home. am i know what you think at home. am iiwsr— know what you think at home. am iiwsr deimg— know what you think at home. am iiwsr being a— know what you think at home. am i just being a little— know what you think at home. am ijust being a little bit i just being a little bit errremee— i just being a little bit extreme? have you been disrupted by diese— extreme? have you been disrupted by these protesters? are you on the by these protesters? are you on me side— by these protesters? are you on me side dr— by these protesters? are you on the side of the— by these protesters? are you on the side of the protesters? do you— the side of the protesters? do we swimw— the side of the protesters? do you think, michel, free country. they— you think, michel, free country. iirew—wamrl you think, michel, free country.| mew—warr- dd they can do what they want. do you— they can do what they want. do wda-i-m— they can do what they want. do wda-i-m ieimg— they can do what they want. do you i'm being harsh on the you think i'm being harsh on the ddiiee— you think i'm being harsh on the ddiiee dr— you think i'm being harsh on the gdiiee dr dd— you think i'm being harsh on the gdiiee dr dd wda— you think i'm being harsh on the police or do you share my concern-this- police or do you share my concern -this.all| concern in that this is all gearing— concern in that this is all gerrimg dar— concern in that this is all getting out of— concern in that this is all getting out of hand and sdmedrimg— getting out of hand and something is- getting out of hand and something is going to go rerriiiw— something is going to go terribly wrong? get in touch all the terribly wrong? get in touch all me assai— terribly wrong? get in touch all the usual ways. _ terribly wrong? get in touch all the usual ways. let me know your didagms— the usual ways. let me know your wedges-mar.— the usual ways. let me know your thoughts-that. but— the usual ways. let me know your thoughts that. but let's thoughts on that. but let's mdvevve- rd- thoughts on that. but let's move, we, to top thoughts on that. but let's- move,-we, to .top story move, shall we, to our top story redd— move, shall we, to our top story record numbers— move, shall we, to our top story record numbers of— move, shall we, to our top story record numbers of people now migrarimg— record numbers of people now migrating-this— record numbers of people now

migrating this country. migrating to this country. we heard— migrating to this country. we. heard _yesterday. heard all about that yesterday. reds— heard all about that yesterday. ier-s race— heard all about that yesterday. ier-s race a,— heard all about that yesterday. let's face it, though, often is— let's face it, though, often ids-wav— let's face it, though, often it's-work that- let's face it, though, often it's work that british it's to do work that british pedgie— it's to do work that british gedgie edaid— it's to do work that british people could do and perhaps ddm-r— people could do and perhaps ddm-r warr— people could do and perhaps don't want to— people could do and perhaps don't want to do _ people could do and perhaps don't want to do . and get this, don't want to do. and get this, everyone, we've got almost 4 miiiidm— everyone, we've got almost 4 miiiidm gedgie— everyone, we've got almost 4 million people who are not only ediieerimg— million people who are not only collecting benefits, but collecting jobless benefits, but mave— collecting jobless benefits, but wave-exempr— collecting jobless benefits, but have exempt from having to have been exempt from having to iddv— have been exempt from having to iddv idi— have been exempt from having to iddv rdr wdrv— have been exempt from having to iddv rdr wdrv .— have been exempt from having to look for work. it's— have been exempt from having to look for work . it's got me look for work. it's got me drinking.— look for work. it's got me thinking. so— look for work. it's got me thinking. so has. how on thinking. so it has. how on eardr— thinking. so it has. how on eariirlwe— thinking. so it has. how on earmlwe ger— thinking. so it has. how on earth we get what i'm going earth do we get what i'm going to earth do we get what i'm going rd massiv— earth do we get what i'm going to crassly call— earth do we get what i'm going to crassly call dirty britain? many?— to crassly call dirty britain? many? i— to crassly call dirty britain? many? i ddm-r— to crassly call dirty britain? many? i don't know if it's a warmer— many? i don't know if it's a northern term,— many? i don't know if it's a northern term, but i think gedpie— northern term, but i think gedgie wiri— northern term, but i think people will what northern term, but i think- people will-whatlmean. people will know what i mean. dar— people will know what i mean. ear-we— people will know what i mean. ear-we ger— people will know what i mean. but we get people back to but how do we get people back to wave— but how do we get people back to wdrve — but how do we get people back to wdrve dies— but how do we get people back to work? alex well,— but how do we get people back to work? alex well, the— but how do we get people back to work? grind wises �*" g work? alex well, the first thing is remarkable of is the remarkable number of people who've given this people who've been given this exemption data shows exemption in new data shows never try to get a never to have to try to get a job again whilst still being able to claim these benefits. it's up to it's just shy of 4 million people in this country. it's been a big spike during coronavirus, which is why this is so newsworthy. and i think the answer that most people the answer is that most people in this country will accept that . it's absurd to never have to be tested again for health purposes . so then you just purposes. so then you just discussion about degree, isn't it because there are some people

, sadly, with debilitating health conditions , who won't be health conditions, who won't be able work, there are able to work, but there are many, people who will have many, many people who will have conditions over conditions that get better over time many others who time and many others who can still undertake kind of still undertake some kind of work and will want to because there more liberating there is nothing more liberating than getting a job and having your own income. so if you start discussing with people think discussing with people who think they're doing people on benefits a when they say you don't a favour when they say you don't have again and say have to get tested again and say you mean never, right? so you can't mean never, right? so how every 30 years now? how about every 30 years now? how 20? how about every how about 20? how about every ten years? that unreasonable? and there's and in the end, there's a there's sweet spot. i don't there's a sweet spot. i don't know where it is, but it's going to be north of six months. and in probably shy, shy of in my view, probably shy, shy of six years. six years is where you'll find where people can all agree. you definitely be agree. you should definitely be retested. agree. you should definitely be re'theed. agree. you should definitely be re'the idea you'll never tested is the idea you'll never tested again on. see, i would argue arddaiiv— again on. see, i would argue probably annually— gs " see, i would argue probably annually with isgis " see, i would argue probably annually with some eveegidms— probably annually with some eveegridms. i— probably annually with some exceptions. i mean , obviously if exceptions. i mean, obviously if gdi— exceptions. i mean, obviously if gdr a— exceptions. i mean, obviously if someone's got a debilitating iireidmg— someone's got a debilitating lifelong disability, then you're not lifelong disability, then you're mdr gdimg— lifelong disability, then you're mdr gdimg rd— lifelong disability, then you're mdr gdimg rd de— lifelong disability, then you're not going to be every single wear— not going to be every single year mdmimg— not going to be every single year knocking on their door, are you?— year knocking on their door, are you? dividasiv— year knocking on their door, are you? obviously but for something where— you? obviously but for something wirerelddm-r— you? obviously but for something whereldon't know— you? obviously but for something

where don't know it's where i don't know if it's memrai— where i don't know if it's mental health- where i don't know if it's mental health or joint pain or mental health orjoint pain or image.— mental health orjoint pain or whatever,-yeah- mental health orjoint pain or whatever,-yeah ,- mental health orjoint pain or whatever, yeah , absolutely. whatever, then yeah, absolutely. amaaiiv— whatever, then yeah, absolutely. amaaiiv i— whatever, then yeah, absolutely. annually i think— whatever, then yeah, absolutely. annually i think there's an argamemr— annually i think there's an argwmem rd— annually i think there's an argument to say that people sirdaid— argument to say that people sirdaid de— argument to say that people should be regularly examined to make— should be regularly examined to make sure that— should be regularly examined to make sure that there's been no imprdvemem— make sure that there's been no improvement in— make sure that there's been no improvement in their condition, wider— improvement in their condition, wiridr meas— improvement in their condition, which means that— improvement in their condition, which means that they can go back— which means that they can go back rd— which means that they can go back id wdrv— which means that they can go back to work and— which means that they can go back to work and find a job. i mean, in extremists,- back to work and find a job. i mean, in extremists, there will be some people i mean, people who've lost all their limbs, for example, who probably will never who've lost all their limbs, for exaitested vho probably will never who've lost all their limbs, for exaitested again,»bably will never who've lost all their limbs, for exaitested again, and.y will never who've lost all their limbs, for exaitested again, and other never get tested again, and other people with very serious conditions . but by and large, conditions. but by and large, you would that people with you would think that people with medical of them medical issues, most of them will be able to overcome them at some point, even with mental health issues. so i don't have a particular problem with saying, look, people should be people should be routinely tested to make that they still make sure that they still qualify that. there's qualify for that. there's another-anotherl qualify for that. there's- another- another aspect, another there's another aspect, too: _ another there's another aspect, rddi-is— another there's another aspect, rddi-ismai— another there's another aspect, too,-is that some- another there's another aspect, too, is that some people too, which is that some people. ever—medieai even with quite profound medical edmdiiidms— even with quite profound medical edmdiridms dr— even with quite profound medical conditions or disabilities, can wdrv— conditions or disabilities, can wdrv amd— conditions or disabilities, can work and want— conditions or disabilities, can work and want to— conditions or disabilities, can work and want to work. and there can work and want to work. and there de— work and want to work. and there can be something— work and want to work. and there can be something very liberating adder— can be something very liberating adder diar— can be something very liberating about that now— can be something very liberating about that now that as about that now that we as a sdeierv— about that now that we as a sdeierv mav— about that now that we as a society may need to think more review— society may need to think more rieviiiv ,— society may need to think more rieviiiv , we — society may need to think more flexibly , we need— society may need to think more flexibly , we need to think about flexibly, we need to think about pari— flexibly, we need to think about dam rime— flexibly, we need to think about para rime war.— flexibly, we need to think about part time work. may need to part time work. we may need to

dim— part time work. we may need to drink adder— part time work. we may need to think about activity that people can think about activity that people dam-iargeiv— think about activity that people can largely wholly can undertake largely or wholly mdm— can undertake largely or wholly rdm—we— can undertake largely or wholly from—we still- can undertake largely or wholly from—we still it's- from home. but we still it's sriii— from home. but we still it's siiii a— from home. but we still it's siiii a gddd— from home. but we still it's still a good thing draw still a good thing to draw gedgie— still a good thing to draw people workforce still a good thing to draw- people-workforce and to people into the workforce and to say,— people into the workforce and to saw om — people into the workforce and to savi om wag,— people into the workforce and to savi om wait, as— people into the workforce and to say, oh, well, as soon as you've got— say, oh, well, as soon as you've gdr mis— say, oh, well, as soon as you've gdr mis raided— say, oh, well, as soon as you've got this label on— say, oh, well, as soon as you've got this label on you, 4 million people— got this label on you, 4 million gedgie im— got this label on you, 4 million gedgie in dis— got this label on you, 4 million people in this country, now you are people in this country, now you siev— people in this country, now you are now sick-never- people in this country, now you are now sick never have are now sick and you never have to are now sick and you never have rd-a— are now sick and you never have rd-a idi— are now sick and you never have rd-a idi again.— are now sick and you never have rd-a idi again-rd- are now sick and you never have to a job again. to me to seek a job again. that to me sasv— to seek a job again. that to me smaks dr— to seek a job again. that to me smacks of the— to seek a job again. that to me smacks of the soft— to seek a job again. that to me smacks of the soft bigotry of idw— smacks of the soft bigotry of iwdm—e i smacks of the soft bigotry of- iwdm—e vdw-ve low expectations. so once you've deem— low expectations. so once you've been dar— low expectations. so once you've been gar im— low expectations. so once you've been put in that— low expectations. so once you've been put in that bucket, you never have to— been put in that bucket, you never have to try— been put in that bucket, you never have to try work never have to try and work again. — never have to try and work again. ime— never have to try and work again. .the same- never have to try and work again. e never have to try and work- again. .the same time, though, again. at the same time, though, alex, key point. it alex, this is the key point. it has to be a quid pro quo. so on the one hand, yes, you need a rigorous system around welfare payments. sure payments. you need to make sure that it payments. you need to make sure thatitis payments. you need to make sure that it is in the old you know, the old saying it a safety the old saying it is a safety net, comfort blanket. net, not a comfort blanket. sure, no issue as someone sure, i have no issue as someone on the left saying that that should be the case. at the should be the case. but at the same you can't have same time, what you can't have is a situation where, frankly, for many people, no for many people, there's no incentive back to work, incentive to go back to work, particularly if you the particularly if you look at the moment in terms of people's real wages the wages falling and some of the industries might be industries that they might be shoved they return shoved into if they did return to work, go into the to work, they might go into the gig economy where the employment is precarious, it's very is very precarious, it's very transient not particular

transient and not particular rewarding. not transient and not particular rewaanyg. not transient and not particular rewa any pull not transient and not particular rewa any pull to not transient and not particular rewa any pull to go not transient and not particular rewa any pull to go back not transient and not particular rewa any pull to go back to not feel any pull to go back to work. so yes, it's important to make sure that people who can work unless work should work unless obviously carers and you obviously they're carers and you know, got responsibility know, they've got responsibility or raising children and or they're raising children and so but at the same time so on. but at the same time you've got make sure that you've got to make sure that those jobs are there. those good jobs are there. you've got make sure that pay you've got to make sure that pay is better than it is generally across the you've got across the board. you've got to give of give people good conditions of service . and if you do that, service. and if you do that, i think you would find that many people at moment who are people at the moment who are perhaps not incentivised to work might suddenly be in. yeah, but let me ask you this. so it's a it's a two way thing, isn't it? because you say about incentives to because you say about incentives id wail,— because you say about incentives id wdrk, dd— because you say about incentives id wdrk, dd vda— because you say about incentives to work, do you think they sirdaid— to work, do you think they should ever— to work, do you think they should ever be— to work, do you think they should ever be situation where should ever be a situation where a ireaiiirv— should ever be a situation where a ireaiiirv sd— should ever be a situation where a ireaiiirv sd a— should ever be a situation where a healthy so a.and- should ever be a situation where a healthy so a and healthy. a healthy so a fit and healthy. im— a healthy so a fit and healthy. i-m-iaikimg— a healthy so a fit and healthy. i'm .talking about- a healthy so a fit and healthy. i'm talking about if you're i'm not talking about if you're ill, i'm not talking about if you're iiilvda-re— i'm not talking about if you're ill,.you're-healthy. ill, if you're fit and healthy amd— ill, if you're fit and healthy and-waki- ill, if you're fit and healthy and-work, do- ill, if you're fit and healthy and work, do you think and able to work, do you think mere— and able to work, do you think there should— and able to work, do you think there should ever— and able to work, do you think there should ever a scenario there should ever be a scenario where— there should ever be a scenario wirere vda— there should ever be a scenario wirere vda sam— there should ever be a scenario where you can, quite frankly, iasi— where you can, quite frankly, iwsi drddse— where you can, quite frankly, just choose not— where you can, quite frankly, just choose not i'm just choose not to? i'm not incentivised. _ just choose not to? i'm not incentivised. want just choose not to? i'm not incentivised. -want be incentivised. i don't want to be idiirered. — incentivised. i don't want to be bothered. - not - incentivised. i don't want to be bothered. not think bothered. if you do not think drai— bothered. if you do not think imai sirdaid— bothered. if you do not think that should be— bothered. if you do not think that should be an option. �*" that should be an option. if vow-re— that should be an option. if vda-re diving— that should be an option. if you're living off— that should be an option. if you're living off-own. you're living off your own means. and obviously, of course, if means. and obviously, of course, i wake— means. and obviously, of course, i wire a— and obviously, of course, if you're a multimillionaire, reiiredi— if you're a multimillionaire, .aiiiaa, i— if you're a multimillionaire, retired, i don't—

if you're a multimillionaire, retired, i don't i'm retired, i don't care. i'm on aidai— retired, i don't care. i'm on aidai-dm- retired, i don't care. i'm on about-on about. about you. i'm on about should you— about you. i'm on about should you- _ about you. i'm on about should vda- oi— about you. i'm on about should vda- or same- about you. i'm on about should you- of course we- about you. i'm on about should. you- of course we should you choose? of course we should tax those people to make sure wealth is redistributed. but should make should you be able to make a made— should you be able to make a errdiee id— should you be able to make a choice to live— should you be able to make a choice to live benefits if choice to live on benefits if you— choice to live on benefits if vda-aiie— choice to live on benefits if vda-aiie id— choice to live on benefits if you able to work? \i:::r you are able to work? no, i mere— you are able to work? no, i mean, there are, i think, some circumstances where, as i said, people have got caring responsibilities as their own responsibilities as or their own personal circumstances might responsibilities as or their own persordictate.nstances might responsibilities as or their own persordictate.nstaif:es might responsibilities as or their own persor dictate. nstaif you're |ht responsibilities as or their own persor dictate. nstaif you're if might dictate. but if you're if you're able to work you you're able to work and you don't have those particular issues are claiming issues and you are claiming benefits, if benefits, then in my view, if there's for you, there's a job available for you, then you should work. but one thing would to see in thing i would like to see in this country, but think this country, but do you think then choose not to work, then if they choose not to work, then if they choose not to work, then you should not be allowed to claim benefits? so to be clear again,-if- to claim benefits? so to be clear again,-if you- to claim benefits? so to bej clear again,-if you can clear again, well, if you can wail,— clear again, well, if you can wdrk, vdare— clear again, well, if you can work, you're able- clear again, well, if you can work, you're able to work, but you— work, you're able to work, but vda-id. — work, you're able to work, but vda-id. wdi— work, you're able to work, but you -to. not-do. work, you're able to work, buti you-to. not-do you you choose to. not and do you mink— you choose to. not and do you think-should- you choose to. not and do you think-should have. you choose to. not and do you think should have your think then you should have your iemeiiis— think then you should have your benefits-well,- benefits removed? well, i wdaidm-i— benefits removed? well, i wouldn't-see - benefits removed? well, i wouldn't-see a. benefits removed? well, i wouldn't see a society wouldn't like to see a society where— wouldn't like to see a society wirere we— wouldn't like to see a society where we effectively allow people— where we effectively allow people-starve. - where we effectively allow people starve. so people to starve. okay. so so vdare— people to starve. okay. so so vdare adi— people to starve. okay. so so you're not allowing— people to starve. c�*s/{iii so you're not allowing them to saved— you're not allowing them to starve? they're— you're not allowing them to starve? they're choosing not to go starve? they're choosing not to 90-i— starve? they're choosing not to gd-a idi. — starve? they're choosing not to gd-a idi. war,- starve? they're choosing not to go - a job. well, they - starve? they're choosing not to go a job. kiwis“ go get a job. well, they may be, but i don't want to but ultimately i don't want to see where withdraw see a society where we withdraw every funding every source of funding from that potentially that person, and we potentially dpp i'm not i'm not dpp for them. i'm not i'm not let me be clear. i'm not a

million miles from you on this. i believe in a contributory welfare system. i believe that it should be a something for something than something approach rather than a something approach rather than a something nothing approach. something for nothing approach. i believe in the principle of reciprocity at the heart of a welfare system, mutual obugafion welfare system, mutual obligation rather than just universal entitle payment. i believe pay into believe that those who pay into the more should get more. believe that those who pay into tialso more should get more. believe that those who pay into tialso believe)re should get more. believe that those who pay into tialso believe)re shou|shouldnore. i also believe that we should look things social look at things like social contributions, so not just financial contributions into the system, financial contributions into the system after their elderly looked after their elderly parents, raised parents, people who raised children, people who do community work and stuff like that. have particular that. so i have no particular issue as i said, issue with that. but as i said, you've got give people the you've got to give people the incentive out there incentive to get out there and work. for many people at work. and for too many people at the there isn't their the moment, there isn't their incentive. that's right, incentive. well, that's right, because you should never be you should never a situation should never be a situation where off where you're better off on benefits work. benefits than you are in work. but we may have to think about idw— but we may have to think about mdw we— but we may have to think about mdw we de— but we may have to think about how we can be thoughtful and devise— how we can be thoughtful and flexible-same- how we can be thoughtful and flexible same that how we can be thoughtful and. flexible-same-that we flexible in the same way that we have — flexible in the same way that we rave-aidai— flexible in the same way that we have about universal credit have been about universal credit and peddie— have been about universal credit and sedge-idi- have been about universal credit and people -top-to. and people getting top ups to iemeiiis— and people getting top ups to iemeiiis id— and people getting top ups to benefits to try— and people getting top ups to benefits to try and incentivise and people getting top ups to benefit to) try and incentivise and people getting top ups to benefit to take and incentivise and people getting top ups to benefit to take oni incentivise and people getting top ups to benefit to take on more �*itivise and people getting top ups to benefit to take on more work. it people to take on more work. it may— people to take on more work. it may-someone who- people to take on more work. it may someone who is or may be that someone who is or mas— may be that someone who is or was deem— may be that someone who is or has been sick— may be that someone who is or has been sick for— may be that someone who is or has been sick for a— may be that someone who is or has been sick for a long time wdrk— has been sick for a long time can work and— has been sick for a long time can work and wants to work but

dam-i— can work and wants to work but dam-i wdrk— can work and wants to work but dam-i wdrk idi— can work and wants to work but can't work for as— can work and wants to work but can't work for as much time in a week.— can't work for as much time in a week. is— can't work for as much time in a week. is maide— can't work for as much time in a week. is unable to— can't work for as much time in a week. is unable to that. now. week. is unable to do that. now. i week. is unable to do that. now. iwdaid— week. is unable to do that. now. iwdaidlap— week. is unable to do that. now. iwdaidlap idi— week. is unable to do that. now. i would up for system where i would be up for a system where the i would be up for a system where we iemeiii— i would be up for a system where the benefit-away— i would be up for a system where the benefit away time i would be up for a system where the wages away time i would be up for a system where the wages increaseay time i would be up for a system where the wages increase with time i would be up for a system where the wages increase with the me and wages increase with the radars— and wages increase with the radars mai— and wages increase with the hours that you— and wages increase with the hours that you work, but it sirdaid— hours that you work, but it should pretty— hours that you work, but it should pretty healthily and grew— should pretty healthily and pretty quickly— should pretty healthily and pretty quickly reward you for wdrkimg. — pretty quickly reward you for wdrkimg. idi— pretty quickly reward you for working. let me- pretty quickly reward you for working. let me ask you this. right? i working. let me ask you this. right? i confess , i have not right? and i confess, i have not researched this before thinking , as you're talking, i've , but as you're talking, i've got memory floating into my got a memory floating into my head. recall. and head. i vaguely recall. and i think she was called rosa monckton. i might have the name wrong. and she had a daughter wrong. so and she had a daughter who has presumably a daughter that had a learning difficulty . that had a learning difficulty. and please bear with me and forgive me if i get a couple of these details wrong because i'm just sparking off what you're saying. sure that she saying. and i'm sure that she argued campaigned for her argued and campaigned for her daughter to be able to go into the world of work. but she said, i accept my daughter for can operate physically, mentally, whatever, operate at the same level as you say, in able bodied, able minded person. so she was happy saying that she was happy and saying that her daughter can make a contribution and be contribution and should be rewarded was rewarded, but accepted it was not the same financial level.

not to the same financial level. yeah well, of course we have many admirable social reasons. a minimum wage in this country wiridr— a minimum wage in this country which pedaie— a minimum wage in this country which people would be reluctant to which people would be reluctant id see— which people would be reluctant to see interfered— which people would be reluctant to see interfered with and would of course would— to see interfered with and would of course would be— to see interfered with and would of course would be reluctant to send — of course would be reluctant to send a— of course would be reluctant to send a message— of course would be reluctant to send a message that somebody is wdriir— send a message that somebody is wdriir dess— send a message that somebody is worth less than— send a message that somebody is worth less than otherwise. sure.— worth less than otherwise. sure. mis— worth less than otherwise. sure, this was— worth less than otherwise. sure, this was the- worth less than otherwise. sure, this was the mum. i'm going to check my i'm sure this was the mum of this daughter. and she was saying, is my and she she was saying, is my daughter wants work getting daughter wants to work getting out and working is beneficial to my daughter. it expands your mdridms — my daughter. it expands your mdridms ii— my daughter. it expands your horizons. it teaches- :g it expands your horizons. it teaches you about life _ horizons. it teaches you about lira-you— horizons. it teaches you about lira-you id- horizons. it teaches you about life, you to socialise life, it helps you to socialise amd— life, it helps you to socialise and network— life, it helps you to socialise and network with other people, wdrk— and network with other people, wdrk is— and network with other people, work is liberating, literally mdm— work is liberating, literally irdm dre— work is liberating, literally from the - and - work is liberating, literally. from the - and - know work is liberating, literally- from the - and - know the from the home and you know the imm— from the home and you know the truth-metaphoric— from the home and you know the truth-metaphoric. _ from the home and you know the truth metaphoric . truth is metaphoric. the truth is we— truth is metaphoric. the truth is we need— truth is metaphoric. the truth is we need be honest about is we need to be honest about it. families where there, it. in families where there, where there develops a culture of working that does of people not working that does become it can be multigenerational and a multigenerational and it sends a message down the children and message down to the children and the actually the grandchildren that actually you have to go you know, you don't have to go out work. a i'm a great out to work. i'm a i'm a great believer off on the sick. i'm a great believer that— s" is i'm a great believer that people have agemev— great believer that people have agemev im— great believer that people have agency in iireir— great believer that people have agency in their lives. great believer that people have agency in their lives. in; great believer that people have agency in their lives. "er r::::r agency in their lives. they do mai— agency in their lives. they do that through work in and earning themselves but i also themselves a living. but i also

believe intervention believe in state intervention to help that that help make sure that that happens. i believe that full employment the employment should always be the central economic central goal of economic policy . think that governments . i think that governments should attain should make sure that we attain full as because of should make sure that we attain full i as because of should make sure that we attain full i believe as because of should make sure that we attain full i believe weas because of should make sure that we attain full i believe we shouldise of should make sure that we attain full i believe we should have: that, i believe we should have a job guarantee system in this country that's something we've floated number years. floated for a number of years. job guarantees quickly job guarantees are some quickly ieaase— job guarantees are some quickly because-gdi— job guarantees are some quickly because got employer as because i've got employer as a iasi— because i've got employer as a iasi-sd— because i've got employer as a iasi-sd vea— because i've got employer as a last-so you don't- because i've got employer as aj last-so you don't have last resort. so you don't have unemployment. sorry the government a resort, as government as a last resort, as the employer last resort. so the employer of last resort. so you have unemployment the employer of last resort. so yistroke, have unemployment the employer of last resort. so yistroke, ha\wouldnployment the employer of last resort. so yi stroke, ha\would wipe ment the employer of last resort. so yi stroke, ha\would wipe out it a stroke, you would wipe out unemployment benefits. what does that , essentially, if that mean? well, essentially, if you that mean? well, essentially, if vda mave— , well, essentially, if you have unemployment , then you have unemployment, then raiser— you have unemployment, then raiser dram— you have unemployment, then rather than those— you have unemployment, then rather than those people iamgaisirimg— rather than those people languishing on the dole, the wdrk— languishing on the dole, the wdrk idi— languishing on the dole, the work for government becomes languishing on the dole, the woremployerjovernment becomes languishing on the dole, the wor employer of ernment becomes languishing on the dole, the wor employer of lastient becomes languishing on the dole, the woremployer of last resort. imes the employer of last resort. dmd— the employer of last resort. kmd resdri— the employer of last resort. and resort-those- the employer of last resort. - and resort-those people and resort employs those people to actually work and do a job to do productive work, whether it's in their community, whether it's in their community, whether it's in schools, in hospitals, whether know, cleaning whether it's, you know, cleaning the streets, whatever that might be, them. they taxes as be, pays them. they pay taxes as a that , welfare a result of that, welfare benefits reduced, you get more revenue into the exchequer as a result of paying tax. and result of people paying tax. and of all of course, you don't have all the social problems, the evils that unemployment that go with unemployment in terms drug violence

terms of drug abuse and violence and rundown typekit i quite like it. do you do you like that idea at it. do you do you like that idea ai rdme?— it. do you do you like that idea ai mdmee sei— it. do you do you like that idea at home? get in— e do you do you like that idea at home? get in touch. let me kmdw.— at home? get in touch. let me kmdw. ed— at home? get in touch. let me know. gb views— at home? get in touch. let me know. gb views at— at home? get in touch. let me know. gb views at gb news .com is me— know. gb views at gb news .com is me emai— know. gb views at gb news .com is the email when— know. gb views at gb news .com is the email when i— know. gb views at gb news .com is the email when i take when i iaek— is the email when i take when i come back should— is the email when i take when i come back should say from my come back should i say from my weak— come back should i say from my ireak i— come back should i say from my ireak i wani— come back should i say from my break i want to— come back should i say from my break i want to .you,- come back should i say from my break i want to you, do you break i want to ask you, do you remember—times. remember that horrific times epenences— remember that horrific times experiences-the- remember that horrific times experiences the lockdowns, experiences of the lockdowns, eiceierae— experiences of the lockdowns, etcetera?_thinkl experiences of the lockdowns,. etcetera? _think the etcetera? well, do you think the wdrid — etcetera? well, do you think the wdrid nearin— etcetera? well, do you think the world health organisation would sndaid— world health organisation would ever, should ever— world health organisation would ever, should ever be given the dppdnaniiv— ever, should ever be given the dppdnaniiv id— ever, should ever be given the opportunity to be— ever, should ever be given the opportunity to be able to diciaie— opportunity to be able to diciaie sd— opportunity to be able to dictate so from the who. level to dictate so from the who. level id individaai— dictate so from the who. level to individual countries, i.e. mis— to individual countries, i.e. inis dme— to individual countries, i.e. this one, that— to individual countries, i.e. this one, that that is the response that- this one, that that is the response that we have to follow the response that we have to follow me new— response that we have to follow me new rime— response that we have to follow the next time there's a pandemic. — the next time there's a pandemic. your thoughts

you're listening to gb news kadid— you're listening to gb news kadid .— you're listening to gb news kadid . — you're listening to gb news radio . hello— you're listening to gb news radio . skirts; you're listening to gb news radio . sidi; you're listening to gb news- radio . hello there. i'm michelle radio. hello there. i'm michelle dewberry and i'm keeping you company right through till 7:00 tonight along side me, alex, dean , the political consultant, dean, the political consultant, and embry , the author, and paul embry, the author, fireman and trade unionist. lots of you guys getting in touch. linda says , what an absolute linda says, what an absolute treat. my absolute favourite panel treat. my absolute favourite panel, she says , is, yes, you

panel, she says, is, yes, you two are making her very happy this evening. daryl says on the just stop oil thing, the right to protest does not mean the right to violate the rights of others . carl says sorry. joanne others. carl says sorry. joanne says can't believe the police are actually shoving these guys more than he should. but that's my point . you see, this is what my point. you see, this is what i'm saying. i think it feels to me like the police are almost just kind of defending the disruptors a little bit too much as opposed to the people that are disrupted. jeff on are being disrupted. jeff on benefits. britain says, i know loads not working and loads of people not working and claiming sickness benefits. many of said they faked their of them said they faked their tests due grass on them then. jeff that is very serious jeff that is a very serious question. if you do know loads of people that are basically committing fraud, do you committing benefit fraud, do you grasp that grasp them up? i would if that was me . millions of people who was me. millions of people who work in jobs they don't enjoy and get low wages. michelle but they have integrity. they prefer to work. they would never claim benefits . john says it's not benefits. john says it's not rocket science. michelle there are loads of unemployed people

on also have cash on benefits that also have cash in hand. jobs yes. well, that's my question to you then . if my question to you then. if indeed you do know people that do that, why aren't you grassing on them? i don't know. you tell me. get in touch all the usual ways. now let's talk, shall we, about the world health organisation . remember those organisation. remember those guys? there's guys? well, there's conva sensations now negotiating sensations is now negotiating these discussions, whatever you want to call it, about a so—called pandemic treaty. this would be internationally. it would be internationally. it would give the world health organisation the power basically to dictate that countries have to dictate that countries have to go into lockdown as well as all the other measures. remember those things, vaccine passports. we saw quarantine in places and the like. not for me . thank you the like. not for me. thank you very much. that is my initial response to this. paul well, i hope there's no— response to this. paul well, i hope there's no further- well, i hope there's no further lockdown is iecase — hope there's no further lockdown is because when— hope there's no further lockdown is because when you look at were— is because when you look at wnere we— is because when you look at where we are now from the previdas— where we are now from the previdas dme— where we are now from the previdas i— where we are now from the previous one, i think we are paying— previous one, i think we are paying a_ previous one, i think we are paving a verv— previous one, i think we are paying a very, very heavy price even now in terms— paying a very, very heavy price even now in terms of excess deains— even now in terms of excess deains in— even now in terms of excess deaths, in terms— even now in terms of excess deaths, in terms of the imiaiidn — deaths, in terms of the inflation that's come into the

svsiem — inflation that's come into the svsiem .— inflation that's come into the svsiem . and — inflation that's come into the svsiem .and i— inflation that's come into the system . and i just think from system. and i just think from ine— system. and i just think from me in— system. and i just think from me in ierms— system. and i just think from the in terms of— system. and i just think from the in terms of the businesses, you— the in terms of the businesses, vda kndw, — the in terms of the businesses, vda kndw, ine— the in terms of the businesses, you know, the wider impacts on the you know, the wider impacts on me ecdndmv— you know, the wider impacts on me ecdndmv .— you know, the wider impacts on the economy , and— you know, the wider impacts on the economy , and i just think we the economy, and i just think we misnandied— the economy, and i just think we mishandled it— the economy, and i just think we mishandled it from _ the economy, and i just think we mishandled it from the beginning.— mishandled it from the beginning. i— mishandled it from the beginning. i think we covid was a verv— beginning. i think we covid was a very idi— beginning. i think we covid was a very rdr sdme— beginning. i think we covid was a very for some people , a very a very for some people, a very serious, sometimes a fatal disease— serious, sometimes a fatal disease virus— serious, sometimes a fatal disease virus .— serious, sometimes a fatal disease virus . but for the vast disease virus. but for the vast maidriiv— disease virus. but for the vast maidriiv di— disease virus. but for the vast majority of people , it did not majority of people, it did not aciaaiiv— majority of people, it did not actually present— majority of people, it did not actually present a serious iwdai— actually present a serious mean and— actually present a serious threat. and my- actually present a serious threat. and my concern was inrdagndai— threat. and my concern was throughout from _ threat. and my concern was throughout from the beginning , throughout from the beginning, it throughout from the beginning, ii was— throughout from the beginning, it was almost— throughout from the beginning, it was almost like we treated it as me— it was almost like we treated it as me niack— it was almost like we treated it as the black death when it asni— as the black death when it wasn't actually— as the black death when it wasn't actually the black death . and— wasn't actually the black death . and instead— wasn't actually the black death . and instead of— wasn't actually the black death . and instead of taking a more iargeied— . and instead of taking a more targeted approach, which i think we sndaid— targeted approach, which i think we should have— targeted approach, which i think we should have done because you kndw— we should have done because you know something— we should have done because you know something like the great narringidn— know something like the great barrington declaration, sdmeining— barrington declaration, something possibly like that, and— something possibly like that, and-vda— something possibly like that, and-vda-wel something possibly like that,- and-you-we should and because, you know, we should belcompassionate_ and because, you know, we should be compassionate we be a compassionate society, we ddn-i— be a compassionate society, we ddn-i-id— be a compassionate society, we don't-to throw— be a compassionate society, we don't to throw vulnerable don't want to throw vulnerable pedpie— don't want to throw vulnerable pedpie id — don't want to throw vulnerable pedpie id ine— don't want to throw vulnerable people to the wolves. we should indw— people to the wolves. we should inrdw aki— people to the wolves. we should throw all-resources- people to the wolves. we should throw all resources the throw all the resources of the side— throw all the resources of the siaie-sdcieiv- throw all the resources of the state - society .- throw all the resources of the state - society . we . throw all the resources of the state society . we are state and civil society. we are paiiing— state and civil society. we are paiiinglsnieid— state and civil society. we are putting shield around putting a shield around vulnerable— putting a shield around vulnerable people protecting vulnerable people and protecting mem—ves— vulnerable people and protecting them. _yes while- vulnerable people and protecting them. yes while at them. absolutely. yes while at them. absolutely. yes while at me same— them. absolutely. yes while at the same time— them. absolutely. yes while at the same time allowing the neaiinv— the same time allowing the neaiinv pan— the same time allowing the healthy part of— the same time allowing the healthy part of the population asisndaid— healthy part of the population as.should have— healthy part of the population as should have done, to go as we should have done, to go aidai— as we should have done, to go. aidai—inan about their business rather than eiieciiveiv— about their business rather than effectively _the - 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effectively placing the entire country—arrest. effectively placing the entire country—arrest .i effectively placing the entire- country_arrest . and country under house arrest. and poop,— country under house arrest. and iddk, ine— country under house arrest. and look, the truth— country under house arrest. and look, the truth is,— country under house arrest. and look, the truth is, i,— country under house arrest. and look, the truth is, i, i don't mink— look, the truth is, i, i don't think there's— look, the truth is, i, i don't think there's any serious evidence— think there's any serious evidence ,_ think there's any serious evidence , actually, that it even evidence, actually, that it even wdrked— evidence, actually, that it even wdrked .— evidence, actually, that it even wdrked . i— evidence, actually, that it even worked . i think— evidence, actually, that it even worked . i think if— evidence, actually, that it even worked . i think if you look for worked. i think if you look for at worked. i think if you look for ai example,— worked. i think if you look for at example, john— worked. i think if you look for at example, john hopkins dniversiivi— at example, john hopkins university, that carried out a sad— university, that carried out a siadv di— university, that carried out a study of lockdown in europe and id— study of lockdown in europe and id ine— study of lockdown in europe and came to the conclusion in the idckddwns— came to the conclusion in the idckddwns ,— came to the conclusion in the lockdowns , reduced deaths by lockdowns, reduced deaths by sdmeining— lockdowns, reduced deaths by something like _ lockdowns, reduced deaths by something like 0.2. but you then need— something like 0.2. but you then need id— something like 0.2. but you then need to factor— something like 0.2. but you then need to factor in— something like 0.2. but you then need to factor in what they caiied— need to factor in what they caiied ine — need to factor in what they called the very,— need to factor in what they called the very, very huge sdciai— called the very, very huge social costs— called the very, very huge social costs and economic costs , wnicn— social costs and economic costs .wnicn prdpaiiv— social costs and economic costs , which probably in— social costs and economic costs , which probably in the long run wiri— , which probably in the long run wiii iar— , which probably in the long run will far outweigh— , which probably in the long run will far outweigh that . �*fd�*riee iii" will far outweigh that. well, on mai— will far outweigh that. well, on inai. i— will far outweigh that. well, on inai. i den-i— will far outweigh that. well, on that, i don't understand why dwell on whether it worked or not, because for me, lockdown could have been profoundly right. and it would still be wrong for an international. we have to learn from. we have to learn have to learn from. we have to iearn irdm — have to learn from. we have to learn from our— have to learn from. we have to learn from our mistakes.- we have to learn from our mistakes. alex, idrgive— learn from our mistakes. alex, forgive - listened - learn from our mistakes. alex, forgive - listened quitel forgive me. i listened quite carefully were carefully to what you were saying. you asked the question. i'm saying. you asked the question. i-m—ii.— saying. you asked the question. i-m—iilnave- saying. you asked the question. i'm-it.-have to.- i'm answering it. we have to. why— i'm answering it. we have to. why-why— i'm answering it. we have to. wnv-wnv wdaid- i'm answering it. we have to. why why would we dwell why you say why would we dwell on why you say why would we dwell dn maid— why you say why would we dwell dn inaie war,— why you say why would we dwell on that? well, we— why you say why would we dwell on that? well, we have to learn mdm— on that? well, we have to learn irdm dar— on that? well, we have to learn from our mistakes. _ on that? well, we have to learn from our mistakes. but you're going—a- from our mistakes. but you're going—a differenti going on to make a different misiake— going on to make a different mistake michelle asked mistake because michelle asked you mistake because michelle asked vda aidai— mistake because michelle asked you about whether this international- international adviser organisation to

organisation should be able to cdmpei—id- organisation should be able to compel—to state. organisation should be able toi compel—to state do compel a sovereign to state do sdmeining. — compel a sovereign to state do. sdmeining. —i-m something. and the reason i'm criticising dwelling on criticising you, dwelling on whether worked whether or not lockdowns worked is could have is that lockdowns could have been the most wonderful thing in the these purposes, been the most wonderful thing in the i these purposes, been the most wonderful thing in the i still these purposes, been the most wonderful thing in the i still wouldn't purposes, been the most wonderful thing in the i still wouldn't concede , and i still wouldn't concede that they have right to that they have any right to force to us do it. well, force to us do it. no? well, i so let's consider a different agree. consider what did agree. let's consider what did happen international agree. let's consider what did happen in international agree. let's consider what did happen in the international agree. let's consider what did happen in the worldiational agree. let's consider what did happen in the world wental agree. let's consider what did happen in the world went in consensus in the world went in one sweden went in one direction. sweden went in another. think that another. you might think that they were profoundly wrong, but they were profoundly wrong, but the there's some kind the idea that there's some kind of nation and the idea of rogue nation and the idea that rogue sweden that this rogue state of sweden should have forced should have been forced by the w.h.o. should have been forced by the who. able to w.h.o. or somehow being able to compel dint of their compel by dint of their membership to behave differently to that which their democratically duly democratically elected and duly appointed government to appointed government decided to go in me is profoundly go for in me is profoundly wrong. and that's why i don't think we i don't think we need to get into the debate about whether or not lockdowns were good these you good for these purposes. you could think lockdown was motherhood and apple pie and they shouldn't have the they still shouldn't have the right it. on member right to enforce it. on member states. you would be surprised aciaaiivi— states. you would be surprised actually, because _ you would be surprised actually, because there'll be many— actually, because there'll be manylmv_ actually, because there'll be many my viewers at home now. many of my viewers at home now. i many of my viewers at home now. i-vda. — many of my viewers at home now. i-vda. vda— many of my viewers at home now. i-vda. vda aiwavs- i can hear you. you always tell me— i can hear you. you always tell me wnen— i can hear you. you always tell me wnen i— i can hear you. you always tell me wnen i-dn— i can hear you. you always tell me when i-on to- i can hear you. you always tell me when i on to these topics

me when i get on to these topics and— me when i get on to these topics and-wiri— me when i get on to these topics and -will.shouting- me when i get on to these topics and will shouting at and they will be shouting at indir— and they will be shouting at men-and— and they will be shouting at their- and they'll- and they will be shouting at their and they'll be their screens and they'll be sidi/ingr— their screens and they'll be saving-mere— their screens and they'll be saying, - here she - their screens and they'll be saying, here she goes again. saying, oh, here she goes again. sne-s— saying, oh, here she goes again. sne-s-aidai— saying, oh, here she goes again. she's about lockdown. she's talking about lockdown. sne-s— she's talking about lockdown. sne-s-dn— she's talking about lockdown. she's-on about- she's talking about lockdown.- she's-on about-move she's going on about covid move on.-reason-bringingl on. and the reason i'm bringing mis— on. and the reason i'm bringing inis-iecaase— on. and the reason i'm bringing this-because that- this up is because that collection— this up is because that collection of- this up is because that collection of society, they fundamentally— collection of society, they fundamentwork. think that lockdowns work. i think that inev—inai - lockdowns work. i think that inev—inai ves| lockdowns work. i think that inev—inai vesv lockdowns work. i think that- they_that, yes , they they would worry that, yes, they mink— they would worry that, yes, they ininklwdrks. — they would worry that, yes, they thinklworks. yes,— they would worry that, yes, they think works. yes, they were think it works. yes, they were cdmidnaiie— think it works. yes, they were comfortable with _ think it works. yes, they were comfortable with and they comfortable with it and they wdaid— comfortable with it and they wdaid-inai— comfortable with it and they would-that no,- comfortable with it and they would that no, no, no, would worry that no, no, no, iisien— would worry that no, no, no, listen, .would - would worry that no, no, no, listen, would worry listen, they would worry that mis— listen, they would worry that this government— listen, they would worry that this government feel next this government might feel next iime— this government might feel next iime-gding— this government might feel next iime-gding id- this government might feel next time going to repeat this government might feel next tiiagain going to repeat this government might feel next tiiagain because oing to repeat this government might feel next tiiagain because ofg to repeat this government might feel next tiiagain because of the repeat this government might feel next tiiagain because of the impacts. it again because of the impacts. knd— it again because of the impacts. and—wdaid- it again because of the impacts.| and—would actually and those people would actually wani— and those people would actually wani id— and those people would actually wani id-ine— and those people would actually want to-the uk— and those people would actually want to the uk government want to see if the uk government is gdimg— want to see if the uk government is gding id— want to see if the uk government is gding id sav— want to see if the uk government is gding id say md— want to see if the uk government is going to say no because of me— is going to say no because of me idcai— is going to say no because of the local level— is going to say no because of the local level impact. they wdaid— the local level impact. they wdaid-id— the local level impact. they would -to .the - the local level impact. they would to the world would want to see the world neaiin — would want to see the world health organisation almost diciaiing— health organisation almost diciaiing ii— health organisation almost dictating it, superseding that and— dictating it, superseding that and dictating— dictating it, superseding that and dictating it— dictating it, superseding that and dictating it down. o" and dictating it down. oh look, i and dictating it down. oh look, i ceriainiv— and dictating it down. oh look, i certainly there are some i certainly agree there are some people hold views, but people who hold those views, but it's a category error here where some people trying debate some people are trying to debate whether they're whether the policy they're interested in a good or interested in is a good one or not. and other people are trying to national to discuss the national sovereignty and the of sovereignty and the ability of a country future by country to decide its future by dint of its own choices. those are actually separate are actually two separate questions, being questions, and they're being conflated most conflated here because the most instant obvious, given that instant and obvious, given that we through lockdown, we all live through lockdown, i think is

think that's the example, is coronavirus. but actually that's not principle in in play not the principle in in play here. it's the ability of countries to decide things for themselves. critics themselves. and your critics might be absolutely right for their purposes. i'm willing for these for this argument to concede lockdown. fantastic no international organisation should be able enforce one on should be able to enforce one on you anyway. so we're all in agreement then. that a agreement then. that is a very rare because i— isgdirii�*ri’x si�* that is a very rare because i definitely isgdirii“ri’“e si“ that is a very rare because i definitely do not mink— rare because i definitely do not think-health- think the world health organisation should be dictating to organisation should be dictating idiinank— organisation should be dictating idiinank-verv- organisation should be dictating to thank very much. what to us. thank you very much. what we dd— to us. thank you very much. what we dd and— to us. thank you very much. what we dd and-dd— to us. thank you very much. what we do and-do well- to us. thank you very much. what we do and do well very to us. thank you very much. what we (moment. do well very to us. thank you very much. what we (moment. ’“

pdieniiaiiv— disagreement, i at least- potentially—don't potentially disagree. i don't mind.— potentially disagree. i don't mmd-rr- potentially disagree. i don't mind-rare that- potentially disagree. i don't mind. rare that we all mind. it's very rare that we all agree something behalf of agree on something on behalf of the government. andrew mitchell has the government. andrew mitchell mas—mai— the government. andrew mitchell mas—inai ine- the government. andrew mitchell has—that the uk- has already said that the uk wdn-i— has already said that the uk wdn-i sign— has already said that the uk wdn-i sign ap— has already said that the uk won't sign up to— has already said that the uk won't sign up to this if sdmeining— won't sign up to this if something compels the uk to do sdmeining— something compels the uk to do sdmeiningi—idl something, we're not going to sign— something, we're not going to sign-wda— something, we're not going to sign-vda kndw- something, we're not going to sign you know what? sign up. do you know what? i renew— sign up. do you know what? i ieiieve—i- sign up. do you know what? i believe-i see- sign up. do you know what? i believe-i see it,- sign up. do you know what? ii believe-i see it, you believe that when i see it, you may not it about this may not believe it about this government, but at least that's what have what they've said. i have profound fears— r: i have profound fears about sir keir siarmer-s— profound fears about sir keir siarmer-s wda— profound fears about sir keir starmer's you know, i follow the science perspective _ starmer's you know, i follow the science perspective being the —idrm - science perspective being the samedrm—i al same. if he were to form a gdvemneni— same. if he were to form a gdvemmeni i— same. if he were to form a government, i think rather government, i think he's rather mdrea—p- government, i think he's rather mdrea—p id- government, i think he's rather more—up to suchi more likely to sign up to such international— more likely to sign up to such international requirements than the conservatives.— international requirements than the conservatives. yeah, i've iasi—cvnicail just become a bit cynical in inese— just become a bit cynical in inese-iew— just become a bit cynical in these few years. these last few years. i think inesc— these last few years. i think inese iasi— these last few years. i think these last few years. i think these last few years. i think these last few years have changed quite lot, changed me quite a lot, actually. i believe a lot actually. i don't believe a lot of what i'm told anymore. i don't at face value don't take things at face value and i don't always think that some of bodies entities some of these bodies entities have interests at have our best interests at heart. do often question about heart. i do often question about ulterior and like. ulterior motives and the like. where on i'll get in where are you on it? i'll get in touch and let me know touch as usual and let me know after break. your response after the break. your response is to some of that. but also i want to ask you question, want to ask you a question, because of me today because part of me today thought, yes, common sense prevails. the prevails. things like the cycling body declaring that female cycling is for females.

very yes. then the very good. yes. but then on the flip that, i learnt flip side of that, i learnt about controlled explosion flip side of that, i learnt about toontrolled explosion flip side of that, i learnt about to takelled explosion flip side of that, i learnt about to take place (plosion flip side of that, i learnt about to take place about n having to take place about a trans protest. so i'm not really sure what the on that. sure what is the latest on that. where you think are we making where do you think are we making good progress here or

channel britain is watching . channel britain is watching. weird— channel britain is watching. hello there. _ channel britain is watching. hello there. i'm- channel britain is watching. hello there. ii i hello there. i'm michelle dewberry with the tories seven. alex dean alongside me, the political consultant, as is paul embery, the author, fireman and trade unionist. lots of you getting on that last getting in touch on that last topic about the world health organisation and lockdowns. izzy you're not messing around. you say leave the who, leave the un , leave the echr and take back un, leave the echr and take back control. nigel says, i will never do anything dictated to me from an organisation that i've not voted for. that was the principle of brexit for me. sadly nigel, we do have a lot of organisations and people actually that are not always democratically that do democratically voted in that do have influence our have a lot of influence over our lives , jan says. again, leave

lives, jan says. again, leave the w.h.o. didn't lives, jan says. again, leave the who. didn't trump wasn't that one of trump's things? my casting my mind back correctly . casting my mind back correctly. he left the internet, the paris kccdrd— he left the internet, the paris accord international climate. i indagni— accord international climate. i indagni dme— accord international climate. i thought one point right at the beginning— thought one point right at the beginning . — thought one point right at the beginning . il�*liiij�*g g thought one point right at the beginning . g beginning. maybe i might be wrong. i don't know. i'm sure you will not be shy in telling me if i'm wrong. we should never accept from the who. accept this from the who. under circumstances, says under any circumstances, says jim. no ifs, buts or maybes. why, says jackie, did we have a referendum to try and create sovereignty in our country? if we are then going to let any old unelected body control? she asks. there you go. a very pointed question, very poignant one as well. british cycling. let's move on to them. they have struck what some are saying is a victory for common sense today. this is all about, of course , this is all about, of course, where the so—called transgender women should be able to compete in the female category of their sport. now, i saw that and i was like, yes, a little bit of common sense there. high five to that, because i do feel very sorry for female athletes that try very hard, train very hard,

and then get beat and then just get beat by someone let's face it, someone who, let's face it, predominantly biological someone who, let's face it, predorit'sintly biological someone who, let's face it, predorit's not' biological someone who, let's face it, predorit's not very biological someone who, let's face it, predorit's not very fair. ogical someone who, let's face it, predorit's not very fair. ifical someone who, let's face it, predorit's not very fair. if you male. it's not very fair. if you ask me. so well done , high five ask me. so well done, high five to for your common sense . to you for your common sense. but then the other side of but then on the other side of it, something else caught my eye because protest because there was a protest taking very, very taking place very, very recently. you might be aware of the row surrounding baroness falkner. she is the chair of the equalities and human rights commission. she is basically had the audacity. everyone to suggest that the law should protect single sex spaces. now this has created an outcry and all the rest of it. and this protest caught my eye. if i've got it up for you, it was basically a load of so—called trans activists as always, as brave as ever for all these protesters. you know, if you're so brave and you believe in your cause, then why on earth you conceal your face, as with balaclavas and hudson , the like balaclavas and hudson, the like is beyond me. because surely if you think you're so a bit clever and your message is so important and your message is so important and right on, then you should want know that it's want the world to know that it's you sharing message.

you that's sharing your message. anyway, up to the anyway, they rocked up to the headquarters rac with headquarters of the rac with bottles by the bottles of urine. and by the way, if your urine is that colour, everybody , you do need colour, everybody, you do need to go to a tap and drink some water because is not water because that is not healthy looking urine. anyway look them. they're pouring look at them. they're pouring that outside of headquarters that outside of the headquarters and it resulted in the police having to be called and the police had to conduct a controlled explosion on something that had been left in that office. disgraceful, if you ask me . so for me, paul, it's ask me. so for me, paul, it's one step forward, two steps back. where are you on it? i agree . i think common i �*fd’“ridi isdi (7 i agree . i think common sense has agree. i think common sense has irdken— agree. i think common sense has irdken dai— agree. i think common sense has irdken dai dn— agree. i think common sense has broken out on this— agree. i think common sense has broken out on this and it's pieasing— broken out on this and it's pieasing id— broken out on this and it's pleasing to see- broken out on this and it's pleasing to see that some institutions,— pleasing to see that some institutions, some organised aciidns— institutions, some organised aciidns are— institutions, some organised actions are pushing back against the actions are pushing back against me madness— actions are pushing back against me madness i— actions are pushing back against the madness. i think we need more individuals— the madness. i think we need more individuals in positions of paiiic— more individuals in positions of public influence— more individuals in positions of public influence politic aciidns— public influence politic actions, commentators and so on. redpie— actions, commentators and so on. redpie wnd— actions, commentators and so on. redpie wnd are— actions, commentators and so on. redpie wnd in— actions, commentators and so on. people who are in charge of paiiic— people who are in charge of public services,— people who are in charge of public services, charities , public services, charities, spdns— public services, charities, sports associations, particularly me saying the sports associations,— particularly me saying the same ming— particularly me saying the same ining. nai— particularly me saying the same thing. but what— particularly me saying the same thing. but what i— particularly me saying the same thing. but what i detect, iiicnei— thing. but what i detect, iiicnei is— thing. but what i detect, michel, is that individuals are irigniened— michel, is that individuals are frightened to— michel, is that individuals are frightened to do— michel, is that individuals are

frightened to do it because mew-re— frightened to do it because they're worried— frightened to do it because they're worried about the consequences. - they're worried about the consequences. they're worried aidai— consequences. they're worried aidai cancei— consequences. they're worried about cancel culture. they're wdrried — about cancel culture. they're worried about— about cancel culture. they're worried about the impacts on indir— worried about the impacts on their careers.— worried about the impacts on their careers. so _ worried about the impacts on their careers. so often they're gaiie— their careers. so often they're gaiie wave— their careers. so often they're gaiie irave ii— their careers. so often they're quite brave if they've got the cover organisation doing cover of the organisation doing it. cover of the organisation doing in iike— cover of the organisation doing in iike wnai— cover of the organisation doing it. like what we've seen today . it. like what we've seen today. nai— it. like what we've seen today. nai wnen— it. like what we've seen today. nai wnen ii— it. like what we've seen today. but when it comes— it. like what we've seen today. but when it comes to pinning ddwn— but when it comes to pinning down individuals— but when it comes to pinning down individuals on this , i down individuals on this, i mink— down individuals on this, i think often— down individuals on this, i think often they're found waniing. — think often they're found waniing. i— think often they're found wanting. i mean there was an inierview— wanting. i mean there was an inierview and— wanting. i mean there was an interview and i'm— wanting. i mean there was an interview and i'm sure our and— interview and i'm sure our viewers and listeners would have caagni— viewers and listeners would have caagni ap— viewers and listeners would have caagni ap wim— viewers and listeners would have caught up with-ed- viewers and listeners would have caught up with ed davey caught up with it with ed davey . -di— caught up with it with ed davey . _of course, we- caught up with it with ed davey. . _of course, we debated . the oh, of course, we debated it on this show, actually. who said in response to a- e i“ , who said in response to a question by a— said in response to a question by a media— said in response to a question by a media reporter. yes, quite cieariv— by a media reporter. yes, quite cieariv a— by a media reporter. yes, quite clearly a woman— by a media reporter. yes, quite clearly a woman can have a penis. — clearly a woman can have a penis. wdw— clearly a woman can have a penis. wdw, ii— clearly a woman can have a penis. now, if you'd have if someone had— penis. now, if you'd have if someone had said that to you ten wears— someone had said that to you ten years ago,— someone had said that to you ten years agd, mai— someone had said that to you ten years ago, that the— someone had said that to you ten years ago, that the leader of a major— years ago, that the leader of a major political— years ago, that the leader of a major political party in britain wdaid— major political party in britain wdaid sav— major political party in britain would say that— major political party in britain would say that statement on mainsieam— would say that statement on mainstream on— would say that statement on mainstream on a— would say that statement on mainstream on a mainstream iwdadcasi— mainstream on a mainstream broadcast, people would have indagni— broadcast, people would have indagni you— broadcast, people would have thought you were absolutely mad that thought you were absolutely mad inai mai— thought you were absolutely mad that that that— thought you were absolutely mad that that that was— thought you were absolutely mad that that that was ever ten years— that that that was ever ten years awav. — that that that was ever ten years away. that sort of statement— years away. that sort of statement .— years away. that sort of statement . think it years away. that sort of- statement .-think it shows statement. and i think it shows the statement. and i think it shows me degree— statement. and i think it shows the degree that— statement. and i think it shows the degree that we've actually gdne—ndie- the degree that we've actually gdne—ndie dni gone down the rabbit hole on sdmelinis— gone down the rabbit hole on some-this stuff.- gone down the rabbit hole on some this stuff. and i just some of this stuff. and i just in — some of this stuff. and i just im amazed — some of this stuff. and i just in aaed i— some of this stuff. and i just i'm amazed. i mean, some of it is sd— i'm amazed. i mean, some of it is so ridiculous— i'm amazed. i mean, some of it is so ridiculous that— is so ridiculous that it's

aimdsi— is so ridiculous that it's almost-and,- is so ridiculous that it's almost and, you is so ridiculous that it's- almost-and, you know, i'm almost funny and, you know, i'm iasi— almost funny and, you know, i'm iasi aaed— almost funny and, you know, i'm just amazed actually , that just amazed actually, that pedpie— just amazed actually, that pedpie wnd— just amazed actually, that pedpie wnd in— just amazed actually, that people who in any other walk of life people who in any other walk of iiie wdaid — people who in any other walk of life would tell— people who in any other walk of life would tell us— people who in any other walk of life would tell us to follow the science, whether— life would tell us to follow the science, whether it's follow the science on covid,— science, whether it's follow the science on covid, follow the science—change. science on climate change. suddenly,— science on climate change. saddenivi-ii- science on climate change. suddenly, it comes to suddenly, when it comes to sdmeining— suddenly, when it comes to something-men. suddenly, when it comes to something men and something like this, men and wdmen-inev— something like this, men and women-they-oh,| women sports, they say, oh, ddn-i— women sports, they say, oh, ddn-i idrgei— women sports, they say, oh, don't forget the _ women sports, they say, oh, don't forget the science. you've got don't forget the science. you've gdi—pedpie-s- got to think about people's indiv— got to think about people's motty - science, - motty that science, not that. science—course science. no you're of course right about sir ed davey, but i don't think he's harmed the lib dems credibility. they didn't have pd dems credibility. they didn't have i'd say my of have any. no i'd say my view of them and them remains unchanged. and but baroness falkner on the baroness kishwer falkner on the other hand, despite her association such association with such organisations is organisations and groups, is a blameless who's done blameless individual who's done much help our public life . much to help our public life. and the part of the thing with the these attacks the ferocity of these attacks against people like baroness falkner is that unless we rally around and help people, they will find their lives ruined over a word, over a tweet , over over a word, over a tweet, over saying what many of us she said , that's a bloke in a wig is exactly what the person she was talking about was , was a man talking about was, was a man going into a woman's space and demanding access to it, or a man

thinking that he should be able to win a woman's sport because that's how he defines for me , that's how he defines for me, those things are, broadly speaking, being challenged more and might have a and more. so i might have a slightly different perspective from guys on the taking from you guys on the taking bottles and devices bottles of urine and devices that may may not have been that may or may not have been explosives putting the at explosives and putting the at the site of the commission because me smacks of because to me it smacks of desperation . it smacks of these desperation. it smacks of these people knowing that they are losing the argument. if people knowing that they are losing the argument . if they losing the argument. if they thought were winning, thought they were winning, they wouldn't that. they wouldn't need to do that. they wouldn't need to do that. they would that simply tweeting would think that simply tweeting their be to their abuse would be enough to get fired. and it's clear get you fired. and it's clear that have gone that actually we have gone beyond peak trans. my term is catching on. and if i have no other influence on cultural life, we have beyond peak life, we have gone beyond peak trans in this country. and it's because they realise they are now that if now losing this argument that if i to define woman, i get to define as a woman, i can now go into a woman's shower. it's because they shower. it's insane because they know they're losing, that they're being so desperate and actually know, actually when you, you know, when you when away from when you when you get away from the that people the bubble that these people often in and you go out often live in and you go out there into mainstream britain and the

and you talk to some of the people i talk to ordinary working class people, and you put people put the argument of these people to them. throughout mainstream driiain—ii-s- britain, people think it's aisdiaieiv— britain, people think it's absolutely bonkers. let's be ndnesi— absolutely bonkers. let's be honest-people - absolutely bonkers. let's be honest people just honest about it. people just canndi— honest about it. people just cannot-their— honest about it. people just. cannot-their-around. cannot get their heads around. nai— cannot get their heads around. dni—mink- cannot get their heads around. idar—mink we- cannot get their heads around. but—think we just| but that's why i think we just need— but that's why i think we just need more courage. there's too macn— need more courage. there's too macn-in— need more courage. there's too much-in public- need more courage. there's too much in public life much cowardice in public life wnere— much cowardice in public life where frightened where people are frightened aidai— where people are frightened about-called- where people are frightened- about-called-names about being called nasty names on about being called nasty names dn-inev— about being called nasty names dn-inev ddn-i- about being called nasty names on they don't speak on twitter so they don't speak dai— on twitter so they don't speak dai againsi— on twitter so they don't speak dai againsi ii.— on twitter so they don't speak out against it. we— on twitter so they don't speak out against it. we need to start pasning— pushing people to speak. i die— pushing people to speak. i wonder-davey- pushing people to speak. i wonder davey realises that wonder if ed davey realises that new— wonder if ed davey realises that nerd-sdme— wonder if ed davey realises that he'll-some votes- wonder if ed davey realises that he'll some votes because he'll lose some votes because of ii. —ar- he'll lose some votes because of ii. —ar pienivl he'll lose some votes because of ii. —ar pieniv dii it. because there are plenty of women say i would have voted women who say i would have voted liberal democrat, but if you don't believe a there is don't believe a woman, there is such as a woman, i'm not such a thing as a woman, i'm not going to vote for you. emily bridges, way, put out bridges, by the way, has put out a about this whole a statement about this whole cycling in the cycling thing and in the statement, got very, very statement, it's got very, very strong actually. says strong words, actually. it says british-essentially- british cycling essentially iannering— british cycling essentially iannering a— british cycling essentially furthering a genocide against us, furthering a genocide againsti ug,_pagpia us, meaning the trans people. imiiv— us, meaning the trans people. imiiv gdes— us, meaning the trans people. imiiv gdes-sav- us, meaning the trans people. imiiv gdes-sav .- us, meaning the trans people. emily goes say , ultimately emily goes on to say, ultimately it emily goes on to say, ultimately ii—a— emily goes on to say, ultimately ii—a digni— emily goes on to say, ultimately ii—a iigni idr- it is literally a fight for sarvivai— it is literally a fight for survival. for— it is literally a fight for survival. for me and my family at survival. for me and my family ai ine— survival. for me and my family at the moment— survival. for me and my family at the moment .— survival. for me and my family at the moment. it— survival. for me and my family at the moment . it terrifies at the moment. it terrifies imiiv— at the moment. it terrifies imiiv id— at the moment. it terrifies emily to exist— at the moment. it terrifies emily to exist .— at the moment. it terrifies emily to exist. but right now , emily to exist. but right now, friends— emily to exist. but right now, friends getting— emily to exist. but right now, friends getting hit. crime it's aven— friends getting hit. crime it's averv idng— friends getting hit. crime it's a very long statement. you can find— a very long statement. you can find ii— a very long statement. you can find ii dn— a very long statement. you can find it on instagram. e

find it on instagram. it points out find it on instagram. it points dai mai— find it on instagram. it points dai inai nc— find it on instagram. it points out that no matter how serious a cyclist you may be being denied the ability to compete in an international cycling competition is not genocide. and when people genuinely think they can go around saying it as if it is, you realise the extent to which they've departed from reality emily also says reality. well, emily also says mis— reality. well, emily also says inisla— reality. well, emily also says thisla violent— reality. well, emily also says this-a violent act.- diise (g well, emily also says this a violent act. it's this is a violent act. it's a verv— this is a violent act. it's a very ienginv— this is a violent act. it's a very lengthy statement, so i do recommend that— very lengthy statement, so i do recommend that you all go and see recommend that you all go and ii— recommend that you all go and ii dn— recommend that you all go and ii dn ine— recommend that you all go and see it on the ed— recommend that you all go and see it on the ed thing. see it on the ed davey thing. i'll see it on the ed davey thing. in iasi— see it on the ed davey thing. i'll just finish— see it on the ed davey thing. i'll just finish by— see it on the ed davey thing. i'll just finish by this because see it on the ed davey thing. i'do ust finish by this because see it on the ed davey thing. i'do need�*iish by this because see it on the ed davey thing. i'do need toh by this because see it on the ed davey thing. i'do need to goy this because see it on the ed davey thing. i'do need to goy tia; because see it on the ed davey thing. i'do need to goy tia break.ise i do need to go to a break. i idand— i do need to go to a break. i idand ii— i do need to go to a break. i found it fascinating how everyone's always conversing aidai— everyone's always conversing about whether— everyone's always conversing about whether or— everyone's always conversing about whether or not man about whether or not a man sorry—bevel about whether or not a man sdrrvi—nave a| about whether or not a man- sorry,_have a penis. sorry, a woman can have a penis. i sorry, a woman can have a penis. i ddn-i— sorry, a woman can have a penis. i ddn-i mink— sorry, a woman can have a penis. i ddn-i inink i-ve— sorry, a woman can have a penis. i don't think i've ever heard andnev— i don't think i've ever heard andnev sayi— i don't think i've ever heard anyone say, can— i don't think i've ever heard anyone say, can a man have a vaginae— anyone say, can a man have a vagind?_aiiyonel anyone say, can a man have a. vagina?_anyone asking vagina? why aren't anyone asking that vagina? why aren't anyone asking inai-wnv— vagina? why aren't anyone asking inai-wnv is— vagina? why aren't anyone asking inai-wnv is ii- vagina? why aren't anyone asking that why is it always that question? why is it always women-nudged- that question? why is it always. women-nudged-the women getting nudged out of the way?— women getting nudged out of the way7-9uys_ women getting nudged out of the way? guys somehow left way? why are guys somehow left anaiiecied— way? why are guys somehow left anaiiecied e— way? why are guys somehow left unaffected ? it— way? why are guys somehow left unaffected ? it doesn't with unaffected? it doesn't wash with .airaid— unaffected? it doesn't wash with .airaid wda— unaffected? it doesn't wash with me. .afraid you tell- unaffected? it doesn't wash with me. afraid you tell me your me. i'm afraid you tell me your indagnis— me. i'm afraid you tell me your indagnis-wiii— me. i'm afraid you tell me your thoughts _will-you- thoughts and i will see you in iwd— thoughts and i will see you in iwd-gd— thoughts and i will see you in two.-go anywhere- thoughts and i will see you in two. go anywhere .

hello there. i'm michelle dewierrv— hello there. i'm michelle dewberry alongside me. still radi— dewberry alongside me. still raai imirv— dewberry alongside me. still paul embry and— dewberry alongside me. still paul embry and alex dean. now nave— paul embry and alex dean. now nave you— paul embry and alex dean. now nave vda neari— paul embry and alex dean. now have you heard the news? that's iasi— have you heard the news? that's iasi deem— have you heard the news? that's iasi been in— have you heard the news? that's just been in everybody? phillip scndiieid— just been in everybody? phillip schofield has— just been in everybody? phillip schofield has released a statement— schofield has released a statement admitting that he had an affair— statement admitting that he had an affair with— statement admitting that he had an affair with a— statement admitting that he had an affair with a younger male empe— an affair with a younger male emie di— an affair with a younger male member of staff— an affair with a younger male member of staff on itv's this waning.— member of staff on itv's this iidrning. nes— member of staff on itv's this morning. he's admitted meeting the morning. he's admitted meeting we man— morning. he's admitted meeting we wnen— morning. he's admitted meeting the man when he— morning. he's admitted meeting the man when he was a teenager for the man when he was a teenager idr indagn— the man when he was a teenager idr indagn ine— the man when he was a teenager for though the affair took place rarer— for though the affair took place iaier and— for though the affair took place iaier and saws— for though the affair took place later and says the— for though the affair took place later and says the relationship was:— later and says the relationship i— later and says the relationship i padre,— later and says the relationship was, i quote, unwise but not iiiegai— was, i quote, unwise but not iiiegai .— was, i quote, unwise but not iiiegai . nes— was, i quote, unwise but not illegal . he's also confessed illegal. he's also confessed mai— illegal. he's also confessed inai ne— illegal. he's also confessed that he lied— illegal. he's also confessed that he lied about the relationship- that he lied about the relationship to itv to his cdiieagaes— relationship to itv to his colleagues, his friends, the press— colleagues, his friends, the press and— colleagues, his friends, the press and his— colleagues, his friends, the press and his agents, the former presenier— press and his agents, the former presenier nas— press and his agents, the former presenter has now— press and his agents, the former presenter has now been dropped by nis— presenter has now been dropped by nis ageni— presenter has now been dropped by nis ageni and— presenter has now been dropped by his agent and it's been announced that schofield will not announced that schofield will ndi preseni— announced that schofield will not present the _ announced that schofield will not present the british soap awards— not present the british soap awards .— not present the british soap awards . alex— not present the british soap awards . alex dean , what do you awards. alex dean, what do you make— awards. alex dean, what do you make id— awards. alex dean, what do you make id maid— awards. alex dean, what do you make to that? it's— awards. alex dean, what do you make to that? it's as if some pedpie— make to that? it's as if some pedpie nadn-i— make to that? it's as if some people hadn't seen on the mdmimg— people hadn't seen on the morning show— people hadn't seen on the morning show the post—metoo era , morning show the post—metoo era na— morning show the post—metoo era we series—

morning show the post—metoo era we series. — morning show the post—metoo era we series. ks— morning show the post—metoo era , the series . as with— morning show the post—metoo era , the series. as with the storyline about a much loved and very successful high profile presenter taking advantage of younger people in the studio, thatis younger people in the studio, that is to say, above the legal age of consent for activity , of age of consent for activity, of course. but nevertheless, the power dynamic was very significant and it is that which is so important in stories like this, i think. and i also must say, if this had been a man with a young woman, i don't think it would have stayed quiet for anything so long because , anything like so long because, of course, he has announced his homosexuality on live television and so forth . he's made a show and so forth. he's made a show of it and effectively he in some ways been able to hide behind it when if it were a heterosexual relationship, it would have been dismissed than more dismissed for the more than more than unwise activity that he has admitted to it have been . i just admitted to it have been. i just want to say one other thing. given the channel that i'm speaking you on, are speaking to you on, there are people worked in and people who have worked in and around business presenters around that business presenters and the who had and behind the scenes who had gone their their their gone to their their their employer said , what is

employer and said, what is happening with schofield is completely wrong. and their completely wrong. and the their employer took schofield's side and not theirs. there are people who have for years been saying that phillip schofield is a wrong'un. do you know that? wrong'un. how do you know that? because— wrong'un. how do you know that? because they have quite very publicly paul well, publicly said so. paul well, look, i mean, i must confess i don't have a huge amount of interest in phillip schofield's love life, to be perfectly honest. but love life, to be perfectly honest . but what love life, to be perfectly honest. but what i do think aidai— honest. but what i do think about situations— but what i do think about situations like this sndaid— about situations like this sndaid dd,— about situations like this should do, it— about situations like this should do, it sounds like it's gaiie— should do, it sounds like it's quite interesting. well, it ceriainiv— quite interesting. well, it certainly does. yeah it certainly does. yeah but when it id— certainly does. yeah but when it id-iike— certainly does. yeah but when it comes to-like this- certainly does. yeah but when it comes to like this where, certainly does. yeah but when it com know, like this where, certainly does. yeah but when it com know, the like this where, certainly does. yeah but when it com know, the revelationswhere, certainly does. yeah but when it com know, the revelations are re, you know, the revelations are idng— you know, the revelations are idng ramming— you know, the revelations are long running through the media and men— long running through the media and men ine— long running through the media and then the statement like it was-and— and then the statement like it was-and-thing- and then the statement like it was and thing that was today and the thing that dies— was today and the thing that alex mentioned,— was today and the thing that alex mentioned, he came was today and the thing that alex ngayoned, he came was today and the thing that alex ngay aied, he came was today and the thing that alex ngay a couple he came was today and the thing that alex ngay a couple of he came was today and the thing that alex ngay a couple of years me out as gay a couple of years ago,— out as gay a couple of years agd, pedpie— out as gay a couple of years ago, people often forget there's ago, people often forget there's a-in— ago, people often forget there's a-in ine— ago, people often forget there's a in the background. a family in the background. and in-dividasivi- a family in the background. and in _obviously, he - a family in the background. and in obviously, he was in his case, obviously, he was married— in his case, obviously, he was married-verv— in his case, obviously, he was married very time. married for a very long time. wis— married for a very long time. his-stephanie,- married for a very long time. his stephanie, think her his wife, stephanie, i think her is and— his wife, stephanie, i think her name is, and he— his wife, stephanie, i think her name is, and he had two daagniers— name is, and he had two daughters who- name is, and he had two daughters who i can only imagine at daughters who i can only imagine ai-in— daughters who i can only imagine ai-in rime— daughters who i can only imagine at-in time were- at that point in time were prdiaiiv— at that point in time were probably going through it probably going through hell. it was probably going through hell. it prdiaiiv— probably going through hell. it was probably very, very distressing.— was probably very, very distressing. at distressing. and you know, at ine— distressing. and you know, at. ind—gdimg the moment, are probably going inrdagn— the moment, are probably going through experience . through a similar experience. and— through a similar experience. kndlinink— through a similar experience. and think sometimes when

and i think sometimes when pedpie— and i think sometimes when pedpie are— and i think sometimes when pedpie in— and i think sometimes when people are in the full glare of papiiciivi— people are in the full glare of publicity, whether it's politicians— publicity, whether it's politicians or celebrities, pedpie— politicians or celebrities, people phillip schofield people like phillip schofield and— people like phillip schofield and i— people like phillip schofield and i can— people like phillip schofield and i can think,— people like phillip schofield and i can think, for example, of diari— and i can think, for example, of matt hancocks_ and i can think, for example, of matt hancocks affair a couple of years— matt hancocks affair a couple of years agd— matt hancocks affair a couple of years agd wnen— matt hancocks affair a couple of years ago when that was iwdadcasi— years ago when that was broadcast all— years ago when that was broadcast all the media years ago when that was- broadcast all-the media and broadcast all over the media and his broadcast all over the media and ms pddr— broadcast all over the media and ms pddr wire— broadcast all over the media and his poor wife came— broadcast all over the media and his poor wife came of her his poor wife came out of her ndase— his poor wife came out of her ndase-neki— his poor wife came out of her house next morning, you saw house the next morning, you saw mis— house the next morning, you saw inis image— house the next morning, you saw inis image di— house the next morning, you saw this image of massed ranks of pndidgrapners— this image of massed ranks of photographers shoving photographers just shoving cameras-face.- photographers just shoving cameras face. and that's cameras in her face. and that's me— cameras in her face. and that's me ming— cameras in her face. and that's me ining i— cameras in her face. and that's the thing i think— cameras in her face. and that's the thing i think we need to mink— the thing i think we need to mm di— the thing i think we need to think of. ultimately, these are privaie— think of. ultimately, these are pipvgia-,_ think of. ultimately, these are pipvgia-, iai- think of. ultimately, these are private , but there are private matters, but there are iamiiies— private matters, but there are families background. families in the background. wean— families in the background.- yeah,_matters. yeah, they are private matters. nai— yeah, they are private matters. dni-ine— yeah, they are private matters. dni-ind inings- yeah, they are private matters. but-the things that- yeah, they are private matters. but-the things that getsl but one of the things that gets me is that, yes, we've all got a private life, but i think often when we present ourselves on national and we national television and we capital lies on the fact that we are kind of wholesome, decent, not making it necessarily about. phillip i'm talking phillip schofield i'm talking broadly, people go into broadly, but when people go into the present this the media, they present this kind family they kind of family image. they capitalise on that. they're getting commercial deals and monetising it and all the rest of it, and that's not the reality. philip struggle with reality. philip i struggle with that little bit. i'll be that a little bit. i'll be honest. phil should have been out honest. phil should have been dai di— honest. phil should have been dai di a— honest. phil should have been dai di a idi— honest. phil should have been dai di a job a— phil should have been out of a job a decade ago for

nis— out of a job a decade ago for nis ine— out of a job a decade ago for his the height— out of a job a decade ago for his the height of— his the height of unprofessionalism when he his the height of— unprofessionalism when he handed our unprofessionalism when he handed dni-imme— unprofessionalism when he handed our-prime minister- our serving prime minister a risi— our serving prime minister a iisilpedpie. — our serving prime minister a list-people. .said- our serving prime minister a list people. said were list of people. he said were seaai— list of people. he said were sexual-that- list of people. he said were sexual-that he'di list of people. he said were- sexual-that he'd found sexual wrong'uns that he'd found on sexual wrong'uns that he'd found dn—wiinin— sexual wrong'uns that he'd found on _within lthree. on the internet within a three day—idr- on the internet within a threei day—idr inree day live on television for three minaies. — day live on television for three minaies. i— day live on television for three minutes. i remember- day live on television for three minutes. i remember that. kisdiaieiv— minutes. i remember that. absolutely pathetic. - minutes. i remember that. absolutely pathetic. it- minutes. absolutely pathetic. it was the nadir— absolutely pathetic. it was the nadir di— absolutely pathetic. it was the nadir of journalism. so, you kndw— nadir of journalism. so, you kndw, iasi— nadir of journalism. so, you know, just-the- nadir of journalism. so, you know, just the facts and on know, just on the facts and on cdpeecei— know, just on the facts and on competence, he _ know, just on the facts and on competence, he have been competence, he should have been dai— competence, he should have been dai. nai— competence, he should have been dai. am i— competence, he should have been dai. am i wani— competence, he should have been out. but i want to— competence, he should have been out. but i want to make a point to out. but i want to make a point id wnai— out. but i want to make a point id wnd-was— out. but i want to make a point to what-was just- out. but i want to make a point to what was just saying. to what paul was just saying. yes:— to what paul was just saying. vescdarsle— to what paul was just saying. yes,.course, there- to what paul was just saying. yes, course, there is yes, of course, there is a ramp— yes, of course, there is a family background. i yes, of course, there is a- family-background. i feel family in the background. i feel desperaieiv— desperately sorry for phillip scndiieid— desperately sorry for phillip. schofield _there's schofield children, but there's andiner— schofield children, but there's another family— schofield children, but there's another family affected, a another family affected, too. a boy— another family affected, too. a adv—mai- another family affected, too. a boy—that studio. another family affected, too. ai boy—that studio as boy who went to that studio as a ieenager— boy who went to that studio as a ieenager-was— boy who went to that studio as a teenager-was-into- teenager and was lured into a reiaiidnsnip— teenager and was lured into a relationship with— teenager and was lured into a relationship with schofield over the relationship with schofield over me years — relationship with schofield over the years. that's— relationship with schofield over the years. that's a— relationship with schofield over the years. that's a family i van— the years. that's a family i wdrrv-weii. - the years. that's a family ii worry-well. well, the years. that's a family i- worry-well. well, i'll worry about as well. well, i'll idi— worry about as well. well, i'll ieii you— worry about as well. well, i'll tell you what something inside me wonders if there's anything else because not else to come, because not everything is always it everything is always what it seems. is it ? ladies and gents, seems. is it? ladies and gents, i hope. right. look at that. the time flies. alex dean is downed his pint quicker than i even had a chance to introduce it and say, cheers. cheers very much enjoyed the show tonight, as has my viewers at home. lots of people saying that their friday favourites are their friday favourites, too. so listen , favourites, too. so listen, guys, have yourself a fantastic

weekend. enjoy your bank holiday mondays and i will see you on tuesday. good mondays and i will see you on tuesday . good evening. i'm alex tuesday. good evening. i'm alex peakin— tuesday. good evening. i'm alex deakin .— tuesday. good evening. i'm alex deakin . inis— tuesday. good evening. i'm alex deakin . this is— tuesday. good evening. i'm alex deakin . this is your— : good evening. i'm alex deakin . this is your latest deakin. this is your latest weainer— deakin. this is your latest weather update for gb news from the weather update for gb news from me wei— weather update for gb news from the met office. _ weather update for gb news from the met office. the— weather update for gb news from the met office. the weekend prdmises— the met office. the weekend prdmises a— the met office. the weekend promises a lot— the met office. the weekend promises a lot of— the met office. the weekend promises a lot of fine weather. mere— promises a lot of fine weather. inere wiri— promises a lot of fine weather. there will be— promises a lot of fine weather. there will be a— promises a lot of fine weather. there will be a fair bit of cidad— there will be a fair bit of cloud around— there will be a fair bit of cloud around in some spots, but generaiiv— cloud around in some spots, but generaiiv sdme— cloud around in some spots, but generally some sunshine staying dry. generally some sunshine staying in needing— generally some sunshine staying dry. feeling warm _ generally some sunshine staying dry. feeling warm in the sansmen— dry. feeling warm in the sunshine. although this cold irdni— sunshine. although this cold front-introduce- sunshine. although this cold front introduce a slightly front will introduce a slightly cdder— front will introduce a slightly cooler particularly as we cooler feel, particularly as we go cooler feel, particularly as we gd inrdagn— cooler feel, particularly as we go through sunday and monday. but go through sunday and monday. am a— go through sunday and monday. nai a-di— go through sunday and monday. nai a-di nign- go through sunday and monday. but a of high pressure but a big area of high pressure ddminaiing— but a big area of high pressure dominating our— but a big area of high pressure dominating our weather, meaning audi— dominating our weather, meaning and dw— dominating our weather, meaning a.of dry conditions— dominating our weather, meaning a of dry conditions out a lot of dry conditions out mere.— a lot of dry conditions out there. some— a lot of dry conditions out there. some cloud over northern ingiand— there. some cloud over northern england breaking— there. some cloud over northern england breaking up a little bit this england breaking up a little bit we evening.— england breaking up a little bit this evening. the— england breaking up a little bit this evening. the cloud is inickening— this evening. the cloud is thickening ahead that weather thickening ahead of that weather irdni— thickening ahead of that weather front-northern— thickening ahead of that weather front northern most parts front across northern most parts of front across northern most parts di—di- of scotland. a little bit of igni— of scotland. a little bit of iigni ram— of scotland. a little bit of light rain and— of scotland. a little bit of light rain and drizzle is pdssiiie— light rain and drizzle is possible dawn, light rain and drizzle is possible-dawn, for possible here by dawn, but for mdsi—cieari possible here by dawn, but fori most—clear and most places, dry and clear and gaiie— most places, dry and clear and gaiie-aciaaiiv. - quite chilly, actually. temperatures certainly rural spdis— temperatures certainly rural spdis 2— temperatures certainly rural spdis 2 dr— temperatures certainly rural spdis 2 d s— temperatures certainly rural spots 2 or 3 degrees. so not too far dm— spots 2 or 3 degrees. so not too far off freezing. _ spots 2 or 3 degrees. so not too far off freezing. .a - spots 2 or 3 degrees. so not too far off freezing. a fresh far off freezing. so a fresh sian— far off freezing. so a fresh sian id — far off freezing. so a fresh start to the _ far off freezing. so a fresh start to the weekend, but sun's up start to the weekend, but sun's ap eariv— start to the weekend, but sun's ap eariv and— start to the weekend, but sun's up early and the— start to the weekend, but sun's up early and the sun is strong, so up early and the sun is strong, sd ii-ii— up early and the sun is strong, sd ii-ii sddn— up early and the sun is strong, so it'll soon start— up early and the sun is strong, so it'll soon start to lift indse— so it'll soon start to lift those temperatures. it will stay preddminaniiv— those temperatures. it will stay predominantly cloudy through the

mdmimg— predominantly cloudy through the naming dve— predominantly cloudy through the morning over the— predominantly cloudy through the morning over the highlands and the morning over the highlands and ind-ides.— morning over the highlands and ind-isies. k— morning over the highlands and the-isles. a.of- morning over the highlands and the-isles. a.of a- the western isles. a bit of a damp— the western isles. a bit of a damp siari— the western isles. a bit of a damp siari-as- the western isles. a bit of a damp start as well, but damp start here as well, but mai— damp start here as well, but inai ram— damp start here as well, but that rain edging— damp start here as well, but that rain edging into the mainiand— that rain edging into the. mainland—kind that rain edging into the- mainland_kind of mainland of scotland, kind of iizziing— mainland of scotland, kind of iizziing-ii— mainland of scotland, kind of fizzling-it does- mainland of scotland, kind of fizzling it does so. so fizzling out as it does so. so irigniening— fizzling out as it does so. so irigniening ap— fizzling out as it does so. so brightening up in the far ndnnwesi.— brightening up in the far northwest. spells brightening up in the far northwest-spells the northwest. sunny spells for the aai-onw— northwest. sunny spells for the majority-feel- northwest. sunny spells for the majority,-feel in- northwest. sunny spells for the majority, feel in the majority, a cooler feel in the far ndnn— majority, a cooler feel in the far north, but— majority, a cooler feel in the far north, but elsewhere , far north, but elsewhere, temperatures— far north, but elsewhere, temperatures a little bit higher inan— temperatures a little bit higher. man—wideiv than today's values. more widely inrd— than today's values. more widely mid-zes— than today's values. more widely into-20s cooler— than today's values. more widely into 20s cooler again on into the 20s cooler again on some coasts for— into the 20s cooler again on some coasts for sure, but inland we cdaid— some coasts for sure, but inland we cdaid gei— some coasts for sure, but inland we could get 23,— some coasts for sure, but inland we could get 23, maybe 24 degrees— we could get 23, maybe 24 degrees and— we could get 23, maybe 24 degrees and quite a pleasant saiardav— degrees and quite a pleasant saturday evening. we will see a bit saturday evening. we will see a iii mdre— saturday evening. we will see a bit more cloud— saturday evening. we will see a bit more cloud spilling down iniiiaiiv— bit more cloud spilling down initially over— bit more cloud spilling down initially over northern england, men— initially over northern england, inen inrd— initially over northern england, then into eastern— initially over northern england, then into eastern england to sim— then into eastern england to sian sunday.— then into eastern england to start sunday. but again, generaiiv— start sunday. but again, generally it's- start sunday. but again, generally it's going to be andiner— generally it's going to be another fine— generally it's going to be another fine day, just a bit cidad— another fine day, just a bit more cloud on— another fine day, just a bit more cloud on sunday over these easemi— more cloud on sunday over these eastern counties— more cloud on sunday over these eastern counties of— more cloud on sunday over these eastern counties of england. but even here we should see still some sunny spells. a brighter day— some sunny spells. a brighter davlndnnern— some sunny spells. a brighter day northern scotland. day in northern scotland. plenty of day in northern scotland. plenty di-idr— day in northern scotland. plenty di-idr mdsi— day in northern scotland. plenty of-for most places,- day in northern scotland. plenty of for most places, not of sunshine for most places, not gaiie— of sunshine for most places, not gaiie as— of sunshine for most places, not gaiie as am— of sunshine for most places, not quite as warm temperatures, just a degree— quite as warm temperatures, just a degree dr— quite as warm temperatures, just a degree d sd— quite as warm temperatures, just a degree or so down, so high ieens— a degree or so down, so high ieens mavie— a degree or so down, so high teens, maybe low— a degree or so down, so high teens, maybe low 20s still in me— teens, maybe low 20s still in ind-nai— teens, maybe low 20s still in the - but these - teens, maybe low 20s still in the but these coasts in the south. but these coasts in me— the south. but these coasts in ine-in— the south. but these coasts in the-in particular,- the south. but these coasts in the in particular, with a the east in particular, with a bit the east in particular, with a iii di— the east in particular, with a iii di a— the east in particular, with a bit of a breeze— the east in particular, with a bit of a breeze that will feel rainw— bit of a breeze that will feel rairiv iresn — bit of a breeze that will feel fairly fresh - a - bit of a breeze that will feel fairly fresh a cooler feel fairly fresh and a cooler feel for fairly fresh and a cooler feel idr mdsi— fairly fresh and a cooler feel for most again— fairly fresh and a cooler feel for most again on monday. but again— for most again on monday. but again .— for most again on monday. but again , idr—

for most again on monday. but again , idr ine— for most again on monday. but again , for the majority, it's again, for the majority, it's dw— again, for the majority, it's in and— again, for the majority, it's in and fine— again, for the majority, it's dry and fine with sunny spells. ine— dry and fine with sunny spells. ine san— dry and fine with sunny spells. the sun, though,— dry and fine with sunny spells. the sun, though, is pretty sirdng— the sun, though, is pretty sirdng-iime— the sun, though, is pretty strong time year.

good evening. wonderful people . it is 7:00. and i'm laurence fox . coming . it is 7:00. and i'm laurence fox. coming up on the show this evening. first, i'm joined by conservative commentator, author and speaker and host of the michael knowles show on the daily wire, michael knowles . daily wire, michael knowles. then are in and then the figures are in and they're not great. 13 years in power and the so—called conservative in name only have left the borders wide open . the left the borders wide open. the w.h.o, left the borders wide open. the who, aka the world hater w.h.o, aka the world hater organisation, wants to lock us down again. no, not because of covid, but because of any other