channel good channel- . good afternoon. channel— . good afternoon. i'm channel good afternoon. i'm emily carver . good afternoon. i'm emily carver and— . good afternoon. i'm emily carver and this— . good afternoon. i'm emily carver and this is— . good afternoon. i'm emily carver and this is gb- good afternoon. i'm emily carver and this is gb news sunday— carver and this is gb news sunday on— carver and this is gb news sunday on your— carver and this is gb news sunday on your tv, radio and on u...— sunday on your tv, radio and on une- so— sunday on your tv, radio and on une- so coming— sunday on your tv, radio and on line. so coming up— sunday on your tv, radio and on line. so coming up this hour , it line. so coming up this hour, it has— line. so coming up this hour, it has been— line. so coming up this hour, it has been revealed— line. so coming up this hour, it has been revealed that the secret— has been revealed that the secret lover— has been revealed that the secret lover of— has been revealed that the secret lover of phillip schofield _ secret lover of phillip schofield was just 15 years old when— schofield was just 15 years old when they— schofield was just 15 years old when they met.— schofield was just 15 years old when they met. and now an industry— when they met. and now an industry insider— when they met. and now an industry insider has suggested that— industry insider has suggested that me— industry insider has suggested that this morning could be axed. wen— that this morning could be axed. weu bring— that this morning could be axed. weu bring you— that this morning could be axed. we'll bring you the very latest

on thee. — we'll bring you the very latest on thee. ane— we'll bring you the very latest on that. and could the concern natives— on that. and could the concern natives be— on that. and could the concern natives be about— on that. and could the concern natives be about to bring in eennnntst— natives be about to bring in communist style price controls .7 communist style price controls? ttsnt— communist style price controls? ttsnt snnet— communist style price controls? rishi sunak is— communist style price controls? rishi sunak is reportedly set to ask rishi sunak is reportedly set to est teettng— rishi sunak is reportedly set to ask leading supermarkets to cap teste— ask leading supermarkets to cap taste test— ask leading supermarkets to cap basic food prices— ask leading supermarkets to cap basic food prices such as bread ent— basic food prices such as bread and nut— basic food prices such as bread and nttt tn— basic food prices such as bread and milk in order— basic food prices such as bread and milk in order to help tackle the and milk in order to help tackle tne eest— and milk in order to help tackle tne eest et— and milk in order to help tackle the cost of living— and milk in order to help tackle the cost of living crisis. is tnts— the cost of living crisis. is this socialist— the cost of living crisis. is this socialist nonsense or a smatt— this socialist nonsense or a smart move from the prime ntntstet— smart move from the prime minister and— smart move from the prime minister and cyclists who were ten— minister and cyclists who were ten mete— minister and cyclists who were born male are— minister and cyclists who were born male are to— minister and cyclists who were born male are to be banned from renne— born male are to be banned from netne tn— born male are to be banned from racing tn ettte— born male are to be banned from racing in elite female british eyettng— racing in elite female british cycling events?— racing in elite female british cycling events? racing will now be sent— cycling events? racing will now be snttt tnts— cycling events? racing will now be split into two— cycling events? racing will now be split into two categories tenete— be split into two categories tenete ent— be split into two categories female and open. is this finally a tnt— female and open. is this finally a ttt et— female and open. is this finally a bit of common— female and open. is this finally a bit of common sense? before all a bit of common sense? before ett ttet— a bit of common sense? before ett tnet, tet-s— a bit of common sense? before all that, let's get— a bit of common sense? before all that, let's get the news neetttnes— all that, let's get the news headlines with— all that, let's get the news headlines with tatiana . t; headlines with tatiana. emily, tttnt— headlines with tatiana. emily, thank you. — headlines with tatiana. emily, thank you. this— headlines with tatiana. emily, thank you. this is the latest from the newsroom. itv sources have told gb news bosses have just seven days to save. this morning following the fallout surrounding phillip schofield. staff members who raised concerns say executives need to prove they're properly addressing the issue and they'll need to win back the trust of

viewers. it says new details have emerged about the presenter's relationship with a runner who was reportedly 15 years old when they first met. the mail on sunday, says phillip schofield , arranged an interview schofield, arranged an interview for him, which resulted in a job when he turned 18. the affair started later. editor of the mail on sunday, charlotte griffith, says they were right to question the relationship . to question the relationship. it's so unprecedented and he wrote— it's so unprecedented and he wrote te— it's so unprecedented and he wrote to katie— it's so unprecedented and he wrote to katie hind and said , i wrote to katie hind and said, i ten-t— wrote to katie hind and said, i ten-t expect— wrote to katie hind and said, i don't expect any— wrote to katie hind and said, i don't expect any mercy, which is extteetttnen— don't expect any mercy, which is extteetttnen .— don't expect any mercy, which is extraordinary . and— don't expect any mercy, which is extraordinary . and it's because extraordinary. and it's because eetnetty— extraordinary. and it's because actually katie _ extraordinary. and it's because actually katie had been very neve— actually katie had been very brave ent— actually katie had been very brave and done— actually katie had been very brave and done a story a couple of brave and done a story a couple et weeks— brave and done a story a couple et neets tee— brave and done a story a couple of weeks ago that— brave and done a story a couple of weeks ago that sort of went nutte— of weeks ago that sort of went nntte tet— of weeks ago that sort of went qntte tn te— of weeks ago that sort of went quite far to hint— of weeks ago that sort of went quite far to hint at this friendship. _ quite far to hint at this friendship. and he sent a constant— friendship. and he sent a complaint to— friendship. and he sent a complaint to the to ipso and sate,— complaint to the to ipso and sent, yen— complaint to the to ipso and said, you know— complaint to the to ipso and said, you know ,_ complaint to the to ipso and said, you know , the mail has, said, you know, the mail has, you— said, you know, the mail has, you knew— said, you know, the mail has, you knew ,— said, you know, the mail has, you knew , get— said, you know, the mail has, you know , got this, got this you know, got this, got this none— you know, got this, got this wron-g ant,— you know, got this, got this wrong. and, of— you know, got this, got this wrong. and, of course we hadn't. ant— wrong. and, of course we hadn't. ant se— wrong. and, of course we hadn't. ant se ne— wrong. and, of course we hadn't. ant se ne ws— wrong. and, of course we hadn't. and so he was he— wrong. and, of course we hadn't. and so he was he was right to enetegtse— and so he was he was right to epetegtse. nut— and so he was he was right to apologise. but it's— and so he was he was right to apologise. but it's not very etten— apologise. but it's not very etten tn— apologise. but it's not very often in showbiz that people do do often in showbiz that people do to e— often in showbiz that people do to e tutt— often in showbiz that people do to e twtt nee— often in showbiz that people do do a full mea culpa like that ent— do a full mea culpa like that and sew— do a full mea culpa like that and sew, ten-t— do a full mea culpa like that and say, don't show me any mercy . tne— and say, don't show me any mercy . the government— and say, don't show me any mercy . the government is— and say, don't show me any mercy . the government is launching an ad . the government is launching an at eenneten— . the government is launching an at eenpetgn te— . the government is launching an ad campaign to stop people from etesstng— ad campaign to stop people from etesstne tne—

ad campaign to stop people from crossing the channel at: crossing the channel the advert set to— crossing the channel the advert set to te— crossing the channel the advert set to be circulated in albania next week, will warn people they face being detained and removed if they make the journey . if they make the journey. critics have already branded it as pointless, saying it won't deter them. a record number of people made the crossing in small boats last year , and more small boats last year, and more than 6000 have been intercepted so far this year. meanwhile, labour says it would impose time limits on hiring overseas workers in a bid to kerb migration. the shadow home secretary, yvette cooper , has secretary, yvette cooper, has told the sunday telegraph it would serve as an incentive to train british workers. she also suggested the party would ask the migration advisory committee for appropriate timescales for importing labour. former defence secretary lord john hutton says it's the balancing act and the economy also needs to be considered. there's economy also needs to be considered . there's no easy considered. there's no easy setwtten— considered. there's no easy setwtten te— considered. there's no easy solution to this— f t:t:;”t:i;t: there's no easy solution to this problem, f t:t.i;”t:i;t: there's no easy solution to this problem, it's f t:t:i;”t:i;t: there's no easy solution to this problem, it's a etetet— solution to this problem, it's a global phenomenon. people are newne— global phenomenon. people are moving around— global phenomenon. people are moving around and i think we've got moving around and i think we've get te— moving around and i think we've get to eenetntw— moving around and i think we've got to certainly deal with the tents— got to certainly deal with the tents .— got to certainly deal with the tents . tne— got to certainly deal with the boats , the illegal entry, but boats, the illegal entry, but i tntnt— boats, the illegal entry, but i tntnt w-wee— boats, the illegal entry, but i think we've got— boats, the illegal entry, but i think we've got to take a very tong.— think we've got to take a very

tong. nett— think we've got to take a very long, hard look— think we've got to take a very long, hard look at— think we've got to take a very long, hard look at the other aspects— long, hard look at the other aspects et— long, hard look at the other aspects of immigration policy. newt— aspects of immigration policy. newt news— aspects of immigration policy. david davis referred to families of david davis referred to families et stwtents— david davis referred to families of students coming in and so on. i of students coming in and so on. t newn— of students coming in and so on. t t— of students coming in and so on. t t tntnt— of students coming in and so on. i mean, i think there are things tnet— i mean, i think there are things tnet sen— i mean, i think there are things tnet te— i mean, i think there are things that can be done,— i mean, i think there are things that can be done, but it's got to te— that can be done, but it's got to te tene— that can be done, but it's got to be done in— that can be done, but it's got to be done in a— that can be done, but it's got to be done in a way that doesn't teneee— to be done in a way that doesn't teneee tne— to be done in a way that doesn't damage the economy and supports the damage the economy and supports tne gnwtn— damage the economy and supports the growth agenda.— damage the economy and supports the growth agenda. and i think tnese— the growth agenda. and i think these-important— the growth agenda. and i think these important issues for these are important issues for us. these are important issues for ws—tntnt- these are important issues for. us._think securing us. now because i think securing economic-probably- us. now because i think securing economic probably the economic growth is probably the wettest— economic growth is probably the biggest economic— economic growth is probably the biggest economic challenge that we . teee. twe— biggest economic challenge that we . face. two men— biggest economic challenge that we . face. “ti" biggest economic challenge that we . face. ”cl" attitzi; we. face. two men who were rescued off the coast of torbay yesterday have died. devon and cornwall police says the pair in their 20s were pulled from the water at oddicombe . one man was water at oddicombe. one man was declared dead at the scene. the second died in hospital . their second died in hospital. their next of kin have been informed. seven people have been charged with the attempted murder of a police officer in county tyrone. detective chief inspector john caldwell was shot several times at a sports centre in omagh in february. two men were also charged for being members of the ira and three others with the preparation of terrorist acts. all seven men will appear in court via video link tomorrow .

court via video link tomorrow. soup supermarkets could be asked to introduce a price cap on bafic to introduce a price cap on basic food to help struggling households. the government is reportedly drawing up plans suggesting the move. but a treasury source told the sunday telegraph it would be voluntary. the scheme would see retailers charging the lowest possible amount for products like bread and milk. food prices , which are and milk. food prices, which are expected to keep rising , have expected to keep rising, have increased by 19.1% in the year to march . to just stop oil to march. to just stop oil protesters have been charged after disrupting the gallagher premiership rugby final at twickenham . 37 year old doctor twickenham. 37 year old doctor patrick harte from bristol and 40 year old sam johnson from essex ran onto the pitch and threw orange powder onto the field. play was suspended as the men were escorted from the stadium. they've been charged with aggravated trespass . the

with aggravated trespass. the government says it's down to the unions whether nationalising transpennine express services improves performance. the operators now under government control , with services running control, with services running under a new name. transpennine trains . it's under a new name. transpennine trains. it's hoped under a new name. transpennine trains . it's hoped the move will trains. it's hoped the move will reduce the number of cancellations travel correspond simon calder doesn't believe any improvements will be seen soon. they have been having a miserable— they have been having a miserable time or more pentewtnw— miserable time or more particularly their passengers newe— particularly their passengers newe. tn— particularly their passengers newe. tn tne— particularly their passengers have. in the first four weeks of anett— have. in the first four weeks of annt. t— have. in the first four weeks of annt. t tn— have. in the first four weeks of ann. t tn 7— have. in the first four weeks of april, 1 in 7 trains— have. in the first four weeks of april, 1 in 7 trains was cancelled— april, 1 in 7 trains was cancelled .- april, 1 in 7 trains was cancelled . the government said cancelled. the government said tnts— cancelled. the government said we entw— cancelled. the government said this really isn't— cancelled. the government said this really isn't good enough. were— this really isn't good enough. were going— this really isn't good enough. we-te getng te— this really isn't good enough. we're going to take it back into nutte— we're going to take it back into public control— we're going to take it back into public control and— we're going to take it back into public control and add the we wttt— public control and add the we wttt tw— public control and add the we wttt tw ent— public control and add the we will try and make things better. but absolutely.— will try and make things better. but absolutely. transport seetetew— but absolutely. transport secretary mark harper says don't expect— secretary mark harper says don't expect a— secretary mark harper says don't expect a stwet— secretary mark harper says don't expect a silver bullet . and i expect a silver bullet. and i say— expect a silver bullet. and i saw yew— expect a silver bullet. and i sew yew yew— expect a silver bullet. and i say your your rail ticket still is say your your rail ticket still ts senetntne— say your your rail ticket still is something of— say your your rail ticket still is something of a lottery ticket tecewse— is something of a lottery ticket tecewse et— is something of a lottery ticket because of the— is something of a lottery ticket because of the high numbers of cancellations— because of the high numbers of cancellations and— because of the high numbers of cancellations and thousands of eeeete— cancellations and thousands of eeeete twnet— cancellations and thousands of people turned out— cancellations and thousands of people turned out to watch the ennet— people turned out to watch the ennet tste— people turned out to watch the annual isle of— people turned out to watch the annual isle of the— people turned out to watch the annual isle of the white isle of went— annual isle of the white isle of wtgnt netteen— annual isle of the white isle of

wight balloon festival. $75 wight balloon festival. 25 hot air wight balloon festival. 25 hot ett tetteens— wight balloon festival. 25 hot air balloons featuring various designs were lit up for the night glow finale , which was night glow finale, which was choreographed to music and fireworks. around 4000 people gathered on each day of the bank houday gathered on each day of the bank holiday weekend to take part in the second annual event . this is the second annual event. this is gb news. we'll bring you more news as it happens. now it's back to . back to. emily wright. let's kick things off wttn— wright. let's kick things off wttn tne— wright. let's kick things off with the biggest— int” g let's kick things off with the biggest story in snewttz— with the biggest story in showbiz today. it just keeps on enne.— showbiz today. it just keeps on gtwng. teesn-t— showbiz today. it just keeps on giving, doesn't it?— showbiz today. it just keeps on giving, doesn't it? so it's been teweetet— giving, doesn't it? so it's been revealed that— giving, doesn't it? so it's been revealed that the— giving, doesn't it? so it's been revealed that the secret lover of revealed that the secret lover et tnttte— revealed that the secret lover of philip schofield was just 15 wnen— of philip schofield was just 15 wnen tnew— of philip schofield was just 15 when they met— of philip schofield was just 15 when they met at a theatre scneet— when they met at a theatre school where _ when they met at a theatre school where the former itv presenter— school where the former itv presenter was— school where the former itv presenter was giving a talk. itv net— presenter was giving a talk. itv net tenet— presenter was giving a talk. itv had denied they— presenter was giving a talk. itv had denied they had any evidence of had denied they had any evidence et swcn— had denied they had any evidence et swcn e— had denied they had any evidence of such a relationship between scnettett— of such a relationship between schofield and _ of such a relationship between schofield and a— of such a relationship between schofield and a much younger stett— schofield and a much younger staff member— schofield and a much younger staff member when it first investigated. _ staff member when it first investigated. then what was only

a rumour in 2020.— investigated. then what was only a rumour in 2020. and now an tntwstw— a rumour in 2020. and now an industry insider— a rumour in 2020. and now an industry insider has suggested tnet— industry insider has suggested tnet tnts— industry insider has suggested that this morning could be axed wttn— that this morning could be axed wttn ttv— that this morning could be axed with itv having— that this morning could be axed with itv having only seven days to with itv having only seven days te see— with itv having only seven days te tne— with itv having only seven days to save the programme . for more to save the programme. for more on to save the programme. for more en tnet— to save the programme. for more en tnet ce— to save the programme. for more on that gb news— to save the programme. for more on that gb news exclusive head to on that gb news exclusive head te ce— on that gb news exclusive head te en wews— on that gb news exclusive head to gb news .com_ on that gb news exclusive head to gb news .com for the full stew.— to gb news .com for the full stew. se— to gb news .com for the full stew. se tet-s— to gb news .com for the full story. so let's go— to gb news .com for the full story. so let's go straight to en — story. so let's go straight to en wews— story. so let's go straight to gb news national reporter theo cnttente— gb news national reporter theo chikomba who— gb news national reporter theo chikomba who has his ear to the ground— chikomba who has his ear to the tent en— chikomba who has his ear to the tent en tnts— chikomba who has his ear to the ground on this one.— chikomba who has his ear to the ground on this one. theo, can you— ground on this one. theo, can wen tett— ground on this one. theo, can you tett ne— ground on this one. theo, can you tell me the— ground on this one. theo, can you tell me the very latest ? you tell me the very latest? yes: _ you tell me the very latest? yes. we— you tell me the very latest? yes. we ene— you tell me the very latest? yes, it's one of— you tell me the very latest? yes, it's one of those- you tell me the very latest? yes, it's one of those stories which has been moving at a pace , things coming out, left, right and centre and we understand today that industry insiders have told gb news that it could potentially be rescued. but there is a time frame- f: but there is a time frame for that. tnew-we— there is a time frame for that. they've specifically said tnete-s— they've specifically said tnete-s ne— they've specifically said there's no doubt the future of tnts— there's no doubt the future of tnts netntne— there's no doubt the future of this morning is— there's no doubt the future of this morning is up in the air, tnt— this morning is up in the air, but tt-s— this morning is up in the air, but tt-s test— this morning is up in the air, but it's just not— this morning is up in the air, but it's just not dead yet. the programme— but it's just not dead yet. the etegtenne ts— but it's just not dead yet. the programme is one— but it's just not dead yet. the programme is one of the main tewets— programme is one of the main tewets tn— programme is one of the main tewets tn tne— programme is one of the main jewels in the in— programme is one of the main jewels in the in itv. so particularly— jewels in the in itv. so particularly scrapping this etegtenne— particularly scrapping this programme may not be a good ttee— programme may not be a good idea. however,— programme may not be a good idea. however, they did say at tne— idea. however, they did say at tne next— idea. however, they did say at the next seven— idea. however, they did say at the next seven days are crucial

executes— the next seven days are crucial executives need— the next seven days are crucial executives need to— the next seven days are crucial executives need to prove that we— executives need to prove that tnew ee— executives need to prove that they are addressed . the issues they are addressed. the issues tnet— they are addressed. the issues tnet newe— they are addressed. the issues that have emerged following tnttte-s— that have emerged following philip's revelations, but itv seeteseetsen— philip's revelations, but itv spokesperson has said tomorrow the spokesperson has said tomorrow tne programme— spokesperson has said tomorrow the programme will be going on eneet— the programme will be going on eneet es— the programme will be going on ahead as planned,— the programme will be going on ahead as planned, as normal . so ahead as planned, as normal. so tnts— ahead as planned, as normal. so tnts ts— ahead as planned, as normal. so this is something— ahead as planned, as normal. so this is something which will centtnue— this is something which will continue being— this is something which will continue being asked about wnetnet— continue being asked about whether it's— continue being asked about whether it's going to be centtnutne— whether it's going to be continuing in- whether it's going to be continuing in the same way as it nes— continuing in the same way as it nes teen— continuing in the same way as it nes teen tn— continuing in the same way as it has been in the— continuing in the same way as it has been in the last couple of stews.— has been in the last couple of tews. wnete— has been in the last couple of days, where there— has been in the last couple of days, where there have been many euesttens— days, where there have been many questions about— days, where there have been many questions about the— questions about the relationship, particularly between— relationship, particularly between philip and holly. and of course, on friday,— between philip and holly. and of course, on friday, saw that course, on friday, we saw that tettet— course, on friday, we saw that letter-addressed- course, on friday, we saw that letter-addressed ,. letter which he addressed, eeetegtstng— letter which he addressed, eeetegtstng te— letter which he addressed, apologising to family , apologising to his family, tttents— apologising to his family, friends, colleagues and more. ant— friends, colleagues and more. ant tetew— friends, colleagues and more. and today we've— friends, colleagues and more. and today we've had a flavour of wnet— and today we've had a flavour of wnet eecute— and today we've had a flavour of what people think,— and today we've had a flavour of what people think, particularly wnet-s— what people think, particularly wnet-s teen— what people think, particularly what's been happening over the test— what's been happening over the test tew— what's been happening over the test tew tews— what's been happening over the last few days. and— what's been happening over the last few days. and those revelations, _ last few days. and those revelations, especially the stetenent— revelations, especially the statement from holly as well in the statement from holly as well in tne test— statement from holly as well in tne test ze— statement from holly as well in the last 24 hours.— statement from holly as well in the last 24 hours. and this is wnet— the last 24 hours. and this is wnet tnew— the last 24 hours. and this is what they had _ the last 24 hours. and this is what they had to— the last 24 hours. and this is what they had to say. the end of the what they had to say. the end of tne stew.— what they had to say. the end of tne tew t— what they had to say. the end of tne tew. t tntnt— what they had to say. the end of the day, i think he— what they had to say. the end of the day, i think he should teettw— the day, i think he should really tett— the day, i think he should really talk to _ the day, i think he should really talk to his wife and tenttw— really talk to his wife and family first— really talk to his wife and family first because he what he did family first because he what he ttt te— family first because he what he ttt te wen.— family first because he what he ttt te tnen. t— family first because he what he did to them, i think is more more intrusive— did to them, i think is more more intrusive than than what

ne-s— more intrusive than than what ne-s tene— more intrusive than than what ne-s tene te— more intrusive than than what he's done to holly because she's sewtne— he's done to holly because she's sewtng ne— he's done to holly because she's sewtng ne net.— he's done to holly because she's sewtng ne ttet. — he's done to holly because she's saying he lied. but— he's done to holly because she's saying he lied. :ti;ti.““ {flit saying he lied. but technically he lied to his wife and children, not to her. i like i like phil and— children, not to her. i like i like phil and holly. - i“ t: ”til" i like i like phil and holly. i“ t: iti“ i like i like phil and holly. children, not to her. i like i like phil and holly. so i'm very sad like phil and holly. so i'm very set te— like phil and holly. so i'm very set to see— like phil and holly. so i'm very sad to see them go because i loved i loved them both . so it's loved i loved them both. so it's a pity, really . do you loved i loved them both. so it's a pity, really. do you think loved i loved them both. so it's a pity, really . do you think the a pity, really. do you think the snew— a pity, really. do you think the snew sneutt— a pity, really. do you think the show should be— eat itititllyt do you think the show should be revamped or just show should be revamped orjust senetntne— show should be revamped orjust something else— show should be revamped orjust something else ? _ show should be revamped orjust something else ? atit. itititllyt not something else? not really. not teettw— something else? not really. not teettw sue— something else? not really. not really sure. carry— something else? not really. not really sure. carry on— something else? not really. not really sure. carry on as- something else? atit. itititllyt not really sure. carry on as it is . really sure. carry on as it is. i really sure. carry on as it is. t tttnt— really sure. carry on as it is. i think perhaps— really sure. carry on as it is. i think perhaps the- really sure. carry on as it is. i think perhaps the show needs fresh people on. i think that the show really relied on the chemistry that holly and phil had, and that was a magical chemistry that they had, which really made the show work well, as you heard there, mixed views from people, some who have been watching it for a very long time , thinking it's a shame that it's got to this stage . but they it's got to this stage. but they are it's got to this stage. but they sewtne— it's got to this stage. but they sewtne tnet— it's got to this stage. but they are saying that they- e git 3 but they are saying that they hope that executes— are saying that they hope that executives can _ are saying that they hope that executives can save it . and this executives can save it. and this week— executives can save it. and this week tn— executives can save it. and this week in particular,— executives can save it. and this week in particular, coming up, wnen— week in particular, coming up, wnen tne— week in particular, coming up, when the show— week in particular, coming up, when the show resumes, tomorrow will when the show resumes, tomorrow wttt te— when the show resumes, tomorrow wttt be e— when the show resumes, tomorrow wttt be e key— when the show resumes, tomorrow will be a key time— when the show resumes, tomorrow will be a key time to see wnetnet— will be a key time to see whether they— will be a key time to see whether they can rectify this

wne — whether they can rectify this issue. who knew— whether they can rectify this issue. who knew what and when ent— issue. who knew what and when ent wnetnet— issue. who knew what and when and whether this— issue. who knew what and when and whether this is something tnet— and whether this is something tnet ts— and whether this is something tnet ts net— and whether this is something that is not going— and whether this is something that is not going to stop this netntne. — that is not going to stop this morning- nut— that is not going to stop this morning. but of— that is not going to stop this morning. but of course, that's senetntne— morning. but of course, that's something we'll— morning. but of course, that's something we'll have to wait and see something we'll have to wait and tnts— something we'll have to wait and tnts weet— something we'll have to wait and see this week when— something we'll have to wait and see this week when it returns on air see this week when it returns on ett es— see this week when it returns on ett es wett. — see this week when it returns on ett es wett. yes.— see this week when it returns on air as well. yes, we— see this week when it returns on air as well. “tit; air as well. yes, we shall have to see. thank you very much indeed, theo chikomba there gb news national reporter. i do like seeing out on like seeing what people out on the street are saying about this. seems there are mixed this. it seems there are mixed reviews. people it as reviews. some people see it as being sad. the whole thing being a bit sad. the whole thing , it seems. but, you know, to be honest, i'm not i'm not really interested in the sort of showbiz tittle tattle or the gossip that goes on at broadcasters, but i do think there are questions that need answers. specifically, who knew what when do we believe that holly willoughby, that she didn't know any of this, that she believes she was lied to? et cetera. et cetera. was there some kind of cover up? we know that presenter dan wootton here has suggested that there could well have been. these are the sort of answers we need to know. we to know this boy was 15 we need to know this boy was 15 at time, reportedly. what

at the time, reportedly. what does mean for philip does that mean for philip schofield? what kind of allegations could come out? we know that itv itself could be accused of hypocrisy. got accused of hypocrisy. they got rid of piers morgan, didn't they ? because he didn't want to be nice. essentially about meghan markle, the duchess of sussex. so, you know, it does seem like the integrity could be questioned at some of these broadcasters. but there you go. let me know what you think. gb views at gb news .com. stay tuned. we'll be discussing that later in the show. we have a gb news exclusive on our website. of course we do. an insider has told us itv have seven days to save the programme to save. this morning . head to gb news .com morning. head to gb news .com where you'll find the best analysis and opinion as well as all of the latest breaking news. so moving on back to the world of politics, this is quite incredible, actually. the sunday telegraph is reporting that rishi sunak will ask leading supermarkets to cap the price of bafic supermarkets to cap the price of basic food such as bread and

milk, in order to help tackle the cost of living crisis . the the cost of living crisis. the government have started work on a deal , government have started work on a deal, apparently with supermarkets akin to an agreement in france in which the country's major retailers charge the lowest possible amount for some essential food products . some essential food products. this would be the biggest intervention since edward heath's imposition of price controls . in 1973. currently controls. in 1973. currently number 10 say any action would be voluntary . but what does this be voluntary. but what does this mean? is this socially come to life? joining me now is lance foreman, former london mep and ceo of london cure smoked salmon and aaron bastani, co—founder of novara media. thank you very much to both of you forjoining much to both of you for joining me on this one. i was quite shocked to see this on the front page of the sunday telegraph. lance, this seems to be well put it frankly, a communist policy . it frankly, a communist policy. yes . i don't know what to say. i yes. i don't know what to say. i mean, rishi sunak seems to be

very keen to make the british population more adept at mathematics, but i think he needs to go back to economics classes because one of the first things you learn in economics is that price is determined by the matching of supply and demand . matching of supply and demand. and if you fix the price and demand is the same supply , just demand is the same supply, just supply reduces, we will end up with shortages . so that's what with shortages. so that's what happens with price controls . you happens with price controls. you end up with shortages. it distorts competition, it encourages waste. it is just a bad, bad policy. there are ways to help people through this . but to help people through this. but price controls is not the root. aaron what's wrong with what lance said there ? well, i don't lance said there? well, i don't know . i wouldn't say what's know. i wouldn't say what's wrong with it. i would say, look, the politics of the situation are this. we have interest rates— situation are this. we have interest rates now- situation are this. we have interest rates now at- tit“ we have interest rates now at 4.5. i tntnt— interest rates now at 4.5. i think realistically , to get think realistically, to get tnttetten— think realistically, to get inflation down, they're going to newe— inflation down, they're going to newe te— inflation down, they're going to newe te 90— inflation down, they're going to have to go beyond 6. 311i: have to go beyond 6. people are sewtne— have to go beyond 6. people are saying 6. i mean, i've heard serious people say seven, 8. and we were year out from a

and we were a year out from a eenetet— and we were a year out from a general election. _ and we were a year out from a general election. : ti“ general election. food inflation is still 19. interest— general election. food inflation is still 19. interest rates- is still 19. interest rates teettne— is still 19. interest rates looking looking- l. ”9 interest rates looking looking at 6% l. �*9 interest rates looking looking at 6% plus. l. 9 interest rates looking looking at 6% plus. i tntnt— looking looking at 6% plus. i tntnt ttstt— looking looking at 6% plus. i think rishi sunak,— looking looking at 6% plus. i think rishi sunak, quite frankly , is looking at that situation and realises with great justification that if he doesn't do anything , the tories have no do anything, the tories have no chance of forming a government and that's the politics of this situation. now we can have a tetete— situation. now we can have a debate about— situation. now we can have a debate about how— situation. now we can have a debate about how do- now we can have a debate about how do you help eeeete— debate about how do you help people suffering _ debate about how do you help people suffering at the sort of ceettece— people suffering at the sort of ceettece et— people suffering at the sort of coalface of food— people suffering at the sort of coalface of food inflation like, say,— coalface of food inflation like, sex. neetttne— coalface of food inflation like, say, headline inflation is down, teet— say, headline inflation is down, food inflation— say, headline inflation is down, food inflation is— say, headline inflation is down, food inflation is still 19% for tnts— food inflation is still 19% for tnts newn— food inflation is still 19% for this month. so— food inflation is still 19% for this month. so how do you help tnese— this month. so how do you help tnese eeeetee— this month. so how do you help those people? some people might say those people? some people might sew weu— those people? some people might sex you nett— those people? some people might sex you neteltne— those people? some people might say you help the demand side. say you help on the demand side. you say you help on the demand side. veu—cesn— say you help on the demand side. you-cash payments.- you give them cash payments. wnet—ts— you give them cash payments. wnet—tstentl you give them cash payments.| what_is.want to what he's saying is we want to nett— what he's saying is we want to netnlttttte— what he's saying is we want to helpllittle bit— what he's saying is we want to help little bit with regards help a little bit with regards to, help a little bit with regards te. weu— help a little bit with regards te. you knew.— help a little bit with regards to, you know, not supply because we—new-tsi we don't quite know how this is going— we don't quite know how this is eetne-tt-s— we don't quite know how this is eetne-tt-s eetne- we don't quite know how this is going-ifs going t0- we don't quite know how this is going it's going to be going to work. it's going to be wetuntew.— going to work. it's going to be wetuntew. nut— going to work. it's going to be voluntary. but you can see a sttuetten— voluntary. but you can see a situation, for— voluntary. but you can see a situation, for instance, where tne— situation, for instance, where the government— situation, for instance, where the government might subsidise sueetnettets— the government might subsidise supermarkets cheap the government might subsidise supermemilk, cheap the government might subsidise supermemilk, bread, cheap the government might subsidise supermemilk, bread, cheese.ap the government might subsidise supericheese bread, cheese.ap the government might subsidise supericheese hasid, cheese.ap the government might subsidise supericheese has goneeese.ap the government might subsidise supericheese has gone upe.ap the government might subsidise supericheese has gone up 39.» emily cheese has gone up 39. sene— emily cheese has gone up 39. sene terns— emily cheese has gone up 39. some forms-hard- emily cheese has gone up 39. some forms hard cheese have some forms of hard cheese have gene— some forms of hard cheese have gene-sen— some forms of hard cheese have gene-sew tn— some forms of hard cheese have gone .39% in-last- some forms of hard cheese have gone .39% in-last 12- gone up 39% in the last 12 nentts— gone up 39% in the last 12 nentns. se— gone up 39% in the last 12 months. so the— gone up 39% in the last 12 months. so the politics of this are months. so the politics of this wnw— months. so the politics of this wnw tnts— months. so the politics of this are why this is— months. so the politics of this are why this is happening. and i tunn— are why this is happening. and i tntnt. ttenttw— are why this is happening. and i tntnt. ttenttw .— are why this is happening. and i think, frankly , you know, the think, frankly, you know, the eewetnnent— think, frankly, you know, the government doesn't have government doesn't really have any

government doesn't really have enw—nut- any good choices here. but i tunn— any good choices here. but i think, aaron,— any good choices here. but i think, aaron, i— any good choices here. but i think, aaron, i mean, lance, tsn-t— think, aaron, i mean, lance, tsn-t tne— think, aaron, i mean, lance, isn't the government . �*" isn't the government. if this tees— isn't the government. if this tees 90— isn't the government. if this does go ahead,— isn't the government. if this does go ahead, aren't they treating us like idiots? i mean, why on earth would you try to cap the price control the price at the supermarket market at the end of the supply chain? surely if you were going to try to tackle prices, you'd help ? i tackle prices, you'd help? i don't know. the farms, for example , with a subsidy. if you example, with a subsidy. if you were going to do that, why try and do this in the supermarket? and we also know that a lot of supermarkets, unfortunately have very margins, don't very small profit margins, don't they well, that's absolutely they? well, that's absolutely right. our supermarket industry is right. our supermarket industry ts ene— right. our supermarket industry ts et— right. our supermarket industry ts et tne— right. our supermarket industry is one of the most— i 3“ our supermarket industry is one of the most competitive sueetnettet— is one of the most competitive supermarket industries in the went.— supermarket industries in the went. t— supermarket industries in the world. i actually— supermarket industries in the world. i actually supply into some supermarkets and i know wnen— some supermarkets and i know wnen t— some supermarkets and i know wnen t net— some supermarkets and i know wnen t test te— some supermarkets and i know when i had to increase my own ences— when i had to increase my own ences teceuse— when i had to increase my own prices because the— when i had to increase my own prices because the cost of energy— prices because the cost of energy snet— prices because the cost of energy snet un— prices because the cost of energy shot up and i need to neetet— energy shot up and i need to neetet te— energy shot up and i need to needed to recover that cost. the sueernertet— needed to recover that cost. the supermarket hits— needed to recover that cost. the supermarket hits increased their ence— supermarket hits increased their ence ty— supermarket hits increased their ence ty erectsety— supermarket hits increased their price by precisely the same eeunt— price by precisely the same amount that— price by precisely the same amount that i— price by precisely the same amount that i increased mine. they— amount that i increased mine. tney tttn-t— amount that i increased mine. tney tttn-t try— amount that i increased mine. they didn't try and make extra

nergtn— they didn't try and make extra nergtn en— they didn't try and make extra nergtn en rt.— they didn't try and make extra margin on it, they— they didn't try and make extra margin on it, they just increased— margin on it, they just increased the cash cost. what tney— increased the cash cost. what tney ectuetty— increased the cash cost. what they actually needed in order to be they actually needed in order to te ente— they actually needed in order to te ette te— they actually needed in order to be able to run— they actually needed in order to be able to run a— they actually needed in order to be able to run a profitable tustness— be able to run a profitable business. they— be able to run a profitable business. they are not gouging consumers. you— business. they are not gouging consumers. you know, if one sueernertet— consumers. you know, if one supermarket was— consumers. you know, if one supermarket was charging too ntgn— supermarket was charging too ntgn e— supermarket was charging too ntgn e ence— supermarket was charging too high a price, the— supermarket was charging too high a price, the others would tewe— high a price, the others would tewe rt— high a price, the others would love it because— high a price, the others would love it because they'd go in cteeeen— love it because they'd go in cneeeer. ant— love it because they'd go in cheaper. and you know, and win neree—w— cheaper. and you know, and win neree—w newe- cheaper. and you know, and win more—we have a- cheaper. and you know, and win more we have a very more customers. we have a very ceneettttwe— more customers. we have a very competitive industry . what the competitive industry. what the gewernnent— competitive industry. what the government could do for example, is government could do for example, tslceutt— government could do for example, islcould reduce— government could do for example, is could reduce import is it could reduce import terttts— is it could reduce import terttts en— is it could reduce import tariffs on food. we import a lot of tariffs on food. we import a lot et teet. — tariffs on food. we import a lot et teet. reu— tariffs on food. we import a lot of food. you could— tariffs on food. we import a lot of food. you could get rid of et— of food. you could get rid of ett tne— of food. you could get rid of all the tariffs— of food. you could get rid of all the tariffs on— of food. you could get rid of all the tariffs on coffee, bananas, olive- all the tariffs on coffee, bananas, olive oil, oranges and so bananas, olive oil, oranges and se tney— bananas, olive oil, oranges and so on. they could— bananas, olive oil, oranges and so on. they could do that. but utttnetety— so on. they could do that. but ultimately, what— so on. they could do that. but ultimately, what they to do ultimately, what they need to do to ultimately, what they need to do te nete — ultimately, what they need to do to help consumers— ultimately, what they need to do to help consumers is reduce the cest— to help consumers is reduce the cest et— to help consumers is reduce the cest et ttwtng— to help consumers is reduce the cost of living. our— to help consumers is reduce the cost of living. our energy costs are cost of living. our energy costs wey— cost of living. our energy costs wey tee— cost of living. our energy costs wey tee ntgn— cost of living. our energy costs are way too high because our net eettcy— are way too high because our net eettcy. eu— are way too high because our net zero policy, our housing is way tee— zero policy, our housing is way tee ntgn— zero policy, our housing is way too high because— zero policy, our housing is way too high because we haven't tutt— too high because we haven't tuttt eneugn— too high because we haven't built enough homes. these are the built enough homes. these are tne tntngs— built enough homes. these are the things that— built enough homes. these are the things that we really need to the things that we really need te te. — the things that we really need te te. tney-re— the things that we really need to do. they're not— the things that we really need to do. they're not short term ttxes— to do. they're not short term ttxes. tut— to do. they're not short term ttxes. tut rt— to do. they're not short term fixes, but if the _ to do. they're not short term fixes, but if the government serious about— fixes, but if the government serious about helping people, we-we—cnengtngl serious about helping people,i we've—changing the we've got to start changing the supply— we've got to start changing the sueety stee— we've got to start changing the sueety stte . — we've got to start changing the supply side - and_ we've got to start changing the supply side . '“t: e supply side. and aaron, isn't lance right there when he talks about the benefits of free about the benefits of a free market insofar as businesses will compete with one another to

be most desirable to consumers? we have a very busy supermarket industry in this country, and we do see supermarkets trying to bnngin do see supermarkets trying to bring in the lowest prices to get consumers in. that's why aldi and lidl have been so popular and why waitrose is trying to price match. for example . but do you buy into the example. but do you buy into the idea that what we're seeing actually is greed , flation, i.e. actually is greed, flation, i.e. supermarkets and other businesses are purposefully trying to rip us off? so businesses are purposefully trying to rip us off ? so with trying to rip us off? so with regards to supermarkets, i generally don't think that's the case. no, it's important to say tnet— case. no, it's important to say tnet tnetr— case. no, it's important to say that their margins— i no, it's important to say that their margins have gone up on pre—pandemic._ that their margins have gone up on pre—pandemic. i think in 2021 the on pre—pandemic. i think in 2021 tne ntg— on pre—pandemic. i think in 2021 the big supermarkets had 3 to £4 ttttten— the big supermarkets had 3 to £4 ttttten prett— the big supermarkets had 3 to £4 billion profit way— the big supermarkets had 3 to £4 billion profit way up. on 2019. nut— billion profit way up. on 2019. but es— billion profit way up. on 2019. but es tence— billion profit way up. on 2019. but as lance says,— billion profit way up. on 2019. but as lance says, it's a very ceneettttwe— but as lance says, it's a very competitive market. you can't reetty— competitive market. you can't reetty etey— competitive market. you can't really play silly— competitive market. you can't really play silly proverbially wttn— really play silly proverbially wttn regents— really play silly proverbially with regards to— really play silly proverbially with regards to price gouging. neee— with regards to price gouging. however there _ with regards to price gouging. however there are big parts of the however there are big parts of tne tw— however there are big parts of the uk economy— however there are big parts of the uk economy where that is neeeentng— the uk economy where that is neeeentng .— the uk economy where that is neeeentng . se— the uk economy where that is happening - 50 if— the uk economy where that is happening . so if you look at happening. so if you look at teet— happening. so if you look at food processing— happening. so if you look at food processing and logistics , food processing and logistics, etwteusty— food processing and logistics, obviously the— food processing and logistics, obviously the big energy

cernetenes— obviously the big energy companies are oil refineries. wew— companies are oil refineries. wew tn— companies are oil refineries. wew t-n net— companies are oil refineries. now i'm not going to say why tnts— now i'm not going to say why tnts ts— now i'm not going to say why this is happening— now i'm not going to say why this is happening, but the rents— this is happening, but the erettts tn— this is happening, but the profits in each— this is happening, but the profits in each of those industries— profits in each of those industries i— profits in each of those industries i just mentioned are nesstwety— industries i just mentioned are nesstwety ug— industries i just mentioned are nesstwety up en— industries i just mentioned are massively up on 2019, massively . ant— massively up on 2019, massively . ant se— massively up on 2019, massively . ant se tnere— massively up on 2019, massively . and so there is— massively up on 2019, massively . and so there is an— massively up on 2019, massively . and so there is an interesting eetnt— . and so there is an interesting eetnt nere— . and so there is an interesting point here, which— . and so there is an interesting point here, which is to say, etey— point here, which is to say, etey. rt— point here, which is to say, etey. tt tne— point here, which is to say, okay, if the government is going to okay, if the government is going te tntewene— okay, if the government is going to intervene in— okay, if the government is going to intervene in prices and help the to intervene in prices and help tne censue— to intervene in prices and help the consumer there at the end of the consumer there at the end of tne surety— the consumer there at the end of tne sueety cnetn— the consumer there at the end of the supply chain, then i think yeue— the supply chain, then i think yeue rtgtt— the supply chain, then i think you're right. probably supermarkets place supermarkets isn't the place to do supermarkets isn't the place to te tnts— supermarkets isn't the place to do this because— supermarkets isn't the place to do this because they aren't the seetng— do this because they aren't the ones seeing the— do this because they aren't the ones seeing the biggest rise in tents— ones seeing the biggest rise in pretttslzorst. — ones seeing the biggest rise in profits-2019. and- ones seeing the biggest rise in profits 2019. and lance profits on 2019. and as lance seys— profits on 2019. and as lance seys. tt-s— profits on 2019. and as lance seys. tt-s e— profits on 2019. and as lance seys. tt-s e very— profits on 2019. and as lance says, it's a very competitive secte— says, it's a very competitive sect nut— says, it's a very competitive sector. but then _ says, it's a very competitive sector. but then i suppose you knew.— sector. but then i suppose you knew. yeu— sector. but then i suppose you knew. yeu enty— sector. but then i suppose you know, you only have hard options nere— know, you only have hard options nee—t— know, you only have hard options nee—t tttnt- know, you only have hard options here—i think, the- here and that's, i think, the eestest— here and that's, i think, the eestest-e— here and that's, i think, the easiest-a harder- here and that's, i think, the easiest a harder option, easiest one, a harder option, etwteusty— easiest one, a harder option, etwteusty. ts— easiest one, a harder option, obviously, is to— easiest one, a harder option, obviously, is to get involved in g...— obviously, is to get involved in tne. yeu— obviously, is to get involved in tne. yeu knew.— obviously, is to get involved in the, you know, the food precesstng — the, you know, the food processing supply chain or like you processing supply chain or like yeu sey— processing supply chain or like yeu sey. te— processing supply chain or like you say, do something with terttts. — you say, do something with| tariffs. _ difficult. you say, do something with| tarifs._difficult. you say, do something with tari think difficult. you say, do something with tari think to difficult. you say, do something with tari think to thisficult. you say, do something with tari think to this isult. so i think to me, this is ctesstc— so i think to me, this is classic tories- so i think to me, this is classic tories over the last ceunte— classic tories over the last ceuetelyeers- classic tories over the last couple years, which couple of years, which is tnere-s— couple of years, which is. tnere-s—veu couple of years, which is- there's_you have there's a big problem. you have a there's a big problem. you have e setutten— there's a big problem. you have a solution which— there's a big problem. you have a solution which is— there's a big problem. you have a solution which is proposed wntcn— a solution which is proposed wntcn ts— a solution which is proposed wntcn ts getng— a solution which is proposed which is going to really annoy yeur— which is going to really annoy yeur tese. — which is going to really annoy yeur tese. nut— which is going to really annoy your base. but even doesn't your base. but even that doesn't go your base. but even that doesn't ge—reetty— your base. but even that doesn't go_really.address| go far enough really to address the go far enough really to address tne reet— go far enough really to address the root cause— go far enough really to address the root cause of— go far enough really to address the root cause of the problem. ant— the root cause of the problem. antltence— the root cause of the problem. and-lance said,— and as lance said, realistically, and as lance said,- realistically,-aren't realistically, these aren't setuttens— realistically, these aren't solutions .the - realistically, these aren't solutions the medium to

solutions over the medium to tenger— solutions over the medium to tenger-tnts— solutions over the medium to longer this really longer term. this is really eteut— longer term. this is really about-politics- longer term. this is really about politics of the next about the politics of the next generet— about the politics of the next generet-ves - about the politics of the next. general-yes imean, about the politics of the next- general-yes imean, if general election. yes i mean, if tnts— general election. yes i mean, if ttts were— general election. yes i mean, if this were this fantastic silver bullet, they would have bullet, lance, they would have done this quite a long time ago because we have had high food inflation for rather a while. it does little delayed. if does seem a little delayed. if it going to work. but just it were going to work. but just finally , lance, if we think finally, lance, if we think about the practicalities of this, okay, a supermarket, let's say sainsbury's says, okay, rishi sunak will cap the price of bread and milk and eggs or whatever, all the all the bafics whatever, all the all the basics, cheese as well. then they'll just put their prices up on other products, won't they ? on other products, won't they? well, of course they will doyyou well, of course they will do you knew— well, of course they will do you knew-tney— well, of course they will do you know -they have - well, of course they will do you know -they have to - well, of course they will do you know they have to you know they, they have to you knew.— know they, they have to you knew. tney-we— know they, they have to you know, they've got to remain in tustness— know, they've got to remain in tustness ent— know, they've got to remain in business and to— know, they've got to remain in business and to remain in tustness— business and to remain in business, means they have to business, it means they have to be business, it means they have to te eretttette— business, it means they have to be profitable. and— business, it means they have to be profitable. and so if they cent— be profitable. and so if they cut mete— be profitable. and so if they can't make profit on the the can't make profit on the on the treet— can't make profit on the on the treet er— can't make profit on the on the treet er tne— can't make profit on the on the bread or the milk,— can't make profit on the on the bread or the milk, they'll end up bread or the milk, they'll end uit_it- bread or the milk, they'll end. up_it somewhere up having to make it somewhere etse— up having to make it somewhere etse-tust— up having to make it somewhere else-just ration- up having to make it somewhere else-just ration it.- else or they'll just ration it. t hey— else or they'll just ration it. tney-went— else or they'll just ration it. they .won't have,- else or they'll just ration it. they won't have, you know, they just won't have, you know, tney-tt— they just won't have, you know, tney-tt rust— they just won't have, you know, they'll just have— they just won't have, you know, they'll just have empty shelves wttn— they'll just have empty shelves wttn treet— they'll just have empty shelves with bread and— they'll just have empty shelves with bread and because they with bread and milk because they went— with bread and milk because they won't—because- won't want to sell it because tney-tt—yeu- they'll be selling, you know, setttng— they'll be selling, you know, setttng-tess.- they'll be selling, you know, selling -loss. so, - they'll be selling, you know, selling loss. so, you selling it at a loss. so, you knew.— selling it at a loss. so, you knew-ter— selling it at a loss. so, you know, .for the - selling it at a loss. so, you know, for the government to

know, it's for the government to get tnwewet— know, it's for the government to get involved in— know, it's for the government to get involved in a— know, it's for the government to get involved in a highly competitive— get involved in a highly competitive market. it is etsetutety— competitive market. it is absolutely insane . you know, i absolutely insane. you know, i can understand— absolutely insane. you know, i can understand governments wenttng— can understand governments wenttng te— can understand governments wenttng te get— can understand governments wanting to get involved in energy— wanting to get involved in energy markets because they're not energy markets because they're net neerty— energy markets because they're net neerty es— energy markets because they're not nearly as competitive . and not nearly as competitive. and tnet-s— not nearly as competitive. and tnet-s wnet— not nearly as competitive. and that's what liz— not nearly as competitive. and that's what liz truss did, trytng— that's what liz truss did, trytng te— that's what liz truss did, trying to limit- that's what liz truss did, trying to limit the price with the trying to limit the price with tne ence— trying to limit the price with tne ence cees— trying to limit the price with the price caps on energy last yeen— the price caps on energy last yeer. nut— the price caps on energy last year. but food _ the price caps on energy last year. but food is— the price caps on energy last year. but food is a very, very tttterent— year. but food is a very, very different world— year. but food is a very, very different world and they should not different world and they should net te— different world and they should net te getttng— different world and they should not be getting involved in trytng— not be getting involved in trytng te— not be getting involved in trying to you— not be getting involved in trying to you know, tell supermarkets - trying to you know, tell supermarkets what price they can or supermarkets what price they can er cent— supermarkets what price they can er cen-t sett— supermarkets what price they can or can't sell food _ supermarkets what price they can or can't sell food for madness. wett— or can't sell food for madness. wett. tt— or can't sell food for madness. wett. tt tees— or can't sell food for madness. well, it does seem— or can't sell food for madness. well, it does seem like- or can't sell food for madness. well, it does seem like like madness . i well, it does seem like like madness. i must agree with you. i mean, there will clearly be calls if they do do this kind of intervention, there will be calls to cap the price on every single good out there that people can't afford. unfortunately because of this hideous inflation we are facing. but as aaron said , it is quite but as aaron said, it is quite interesting that the conservatives who are supposed to market keep pinching to be free market keep pinching policies from the left. so we'll see how that pans out. perhaps they're popular. thank you very much indeed. aaron bastani , much indeed. aaron bastani, co—founder of novara media , and

co—founder of novara media, and lance foreman, who is ceo of london cure smoked salmon, which i would highly recommend , too. i would highly recommend, too. thank you very much indeed for joining me. you are watching and listening to gb news sunday with me, emily carver. listening to gb news sunday with me, emily carver . we've got lots me, emily carver. we've got lots more coming up on today's show. i'll speaking to a leading i'll be speaking to a leading animal rights campaigner after the u—turned on its the government u—turned on its landmark rights all landmark animal rights bill. all of that after these quick messages. stay tuned

full stop. live across the uk. this is gb news radio. i this is gb news radio. welcome tect— this is gb news radio. welcome tect te— this is gb news radio. welcome test to en— this is gb news radio. welcome back to gb news sunday with me, emily carver on your tv and radio. now i know many of you at home care deeply about your animal rights. perhaps you were horrified by the news earlier this week that rishi sunak has ditched a landmark animal rights bill that would have given new protections livestock and protections to livestock and pets. the legislation would have delivered on a string of tory manifesto commitments , including manifesto commitments, including ending exports , ending live animal exports, cracking down on puppy smuggling

and banning people, keeping primates as pets. but the bill has now been put in the bin. is this an astonishing betrayal , has now been put in the bin. is this an astonishing betrayal, as some have called it? joining me now is senior campaigns manager at peta, kate werner . kate, at peta, kate werner. kate, thank you very much indeed. your reaction to this story ? yeah, i reaction to this story? yeah, i mean, it's a total— i“ ”515g? yeah, i mean, it's a total betrayal of tne— mean, it's a total betrayal of tne nrtttsn— mean, it's a total betrayal of the british public. like you sett— the british public. like you sett .— the british public. like you sett . ent— the british public. like you said , and of— the british public. like you said , and of the animals that said, and of the animals that tnts— said, and of the animals that this government— said, and of the animals that this government vowed to nretect. — this government vowed to eretect. reu— this government vowed to protect. you know , in its own protect. you know, in its own pren— protect. you know, in its own eten. tts— protect. you know, in its own eten. tts ewn— protect. you know, in its own plan, its own action plan for ennet— plan, its own action plan for animal welfare _ plan, its own action plan for animal welfare .— plan, its own action plan for animal welfare . it promised to, animal welfare. it promised to, ent— animal welfare. it promised to, ent t— animal welfare. it promised to, ent t guete— animal welfare. it promised to, ent t guete .— animal welfare. it promised to, and i quote , revolutionise the and i quote, revolutionise the treetnent— and i quote, revolutionise the treatment of— and i quote, revolutionise the treatment of animals in the uk ent— treatment of animals in the uk and introduce— treatment of animals in the uk and introduce game changing measures on animal welfare and, you measures on animal welfare and, yeu knew.— measures on animal welfare and, yeu tnew. tt— measures on animal welfare and, yeu tnew. tt stnety— measures on animal welfare and, you know, it simply hasn't done tnet— you know, it simply hasn't done tnet. tnsteet— you know, it simply hasn't done that. instead it's— you know, it simply hasn't done that. instead it's turning its tect— that. instead it's turning its tect en— that. instead it's turning its back on animals and failing to tettwer— back on animals and failing to tettwer tts— back on animals and failing to deliver its own— back on animals and failing to deliver its own plan on centetntng— deliver its own plan on containing the key pieces of ennet— containing the key pieces of animal protection legislation atte— animal protection legislation ttte tne— animal protection legislation ttte tne tent— animal protection legislation like the kept animals bill that it like the kept animals bill that t etetget— like the kept animals bill that tt etetget te— like the kept animals bill that it pledged to usher in. so it's tetetty— it pledged to usher in. so it's totally shameful— it pledged to usher in. so it's totally shameful . the idea from totally shameful. the idea from the government,— totally shameful. the idea from the government, they're saying tnet— the government, they're saying tnet tne— the government, they're saying that the labour— the government, they're saying that the labour party were trytng— that the labour party were trytng te— that the labour party were trying to expand and this bill

teyent— trying to expand and this bill teyent tt— trying to expand and this bill beyond it will— trying to expand and this bill beyond it will beyond what it tntttetty— beyond it will beyond what it was initially supposed to tnctute— was initially supposed to include, and— was initially supposed to include, and therefore it became too include, and therefore it became tee eettttcetty— include, and therefore it became too politically toxic . ' “t: too politically toxic. and so tney— too politically toxic. and so they sey— too politically toxic. and so they say they're going to bring in these protections. but just in these protections. but just in a different way . do you in a different way. do you accept that . well, introducing accept that. well, introducing tegtstetten— accept that. well, introducing legislation via _ ii well, introducing legislation via private members ttts— legislation via private members tttts .— legislation via private members tttts . wntcn— legislation via private members bills , which is— legislation via private members bills , which is what's being bills, which is what's being tteetet— bills, which is what's being tteetet. yeu — bills, which is what's being floated, you know, is a very ttcey— floated, you know, is a very ttcey wey— floated, you know, is a very ttcey wey te— floated, you know, is a very dicey way to introduce legislation _ dicey way to introduce legislation .- dicey way to introduce legislation . there's no legislation. there's no guerentee— legislation. there's no guarantee that it will have the the — guarantee that it will have the the tnere-s— guarantee that it will have the time. there's no— guarantee that it will have the time. there's no guarantee it wtt— time. there's no guarantee it wttt te— time. there's no guarantee it will be selected— time. there's no guarantee it will be selected even as a ertwete— will be selected even as a private member's bill. so you knew.— private member's bill. so you knew. tnese— private member's bill. so you know, these issues could very wet— know, these issues could very wet rust— know, these issues could very wet tust te — know, these issues could very well just be dropped by government— well just be dropped by government and not be picked tect— government and not be picked tect un— government and not be picked back up before— government and not be picked back up before next election back up before the next election -ceuse tt— back up before the next election . course, if politicians . and of course, if politicians retectet— . and of course, if politicians retectet every— . and of course, if politicians rejected every bill because in the rejected every bill because in tne tuture— rejected every bill because in the future, further legislation arte.— the future, further legislation arte—nunttng- the future, further legislation like, hunting with like, you know, hunting with tegs— like, you know, hunting with tegsleny— like, you know, hunting with dogs-any other- like, you know, hunting with dogs any other issue could be dogs or any other issue could be ettet— dogs or any other issue could be ettet te— dogs or any other issue could be ettet te n,— dogs or any other issue could be added to it, then— dogs or any other issue could be added to it, then nothing would get— added to it, then nothing would get get— added to it, then nothing would ever get get done— added to it, then nothing would ever get get done . the reality ever get get done. the reality is ever get get done. the reality ts tnet— ever get get done. the reality ts tnet tne— ever get get done. the reality is that the government had an eeeenuntty— is that the government had an eeeenuntty-te- is that the government had an opportunity do some good opportunity here to do some good and opportunity here to do some good ent te— opportunity here to do some good ent te-ttwe— opportunity here to do some good and to-live exports- opportunity here to do some good and to live exports and help and to ban live exports and help tegs— and to ban live exports and help tegs wne— and to ban live exports and help tegs wne ee— and to ban live exports and help dogs who are farmed in horrific centtttens— dogs who are farmed in horrific conditions. and— dogs who are farmed in horrific conditions. and they've blown it . wew— conditions. and they've blown it . wew yeure— conditions. and they've blown it . wew yeure en—

conditions. and they've blown it . now you're an animal- conditions. and they've blown it . now you're an animal rights activist, so of course, this is your number one priority. but would you accept that for a lot of people in this country, it may be further down the list and they'd quite like government time to be spent on things like the cost living . time to be spent on things like the cost living. well, time to be spent on things like the cost living . well, of the cost of living. well, of course, government- i l . “3 well, of course, government has many ertertttes— course, government has many enenttes tut— course, government has many priorities, but we _ course, government has many priorities, but we know that for the priorities, but we know that for tne wettng — priorities, but we know that for the voting public,— priorities, but we know that for the voting public, this is entnet— the voting public, this is animal welfare is a major issue. it's animal welfare is a major issue. tt-s senetntng— animal welfare is a major issue. it's something that— animal welfare is a major issue. it's something that mps hear eteut— it's something that mps hear eteut nere— it's something that mps hear about more than— it's something that mps hear about more than any other issue . eeu— about more than any other issue . veu knew.— about more than any other issue . you know, voters— about more than any other issue . you know, voters elected this gewernnent— . you know, voters elected this government based on the promises that government based on the promises tnet wee— government based on the promises tnet mete— government based on the promises that were made in— government based on the promises that were made in its manifesto ent— that were made in its manifesto ent tnese— that were made in its manifesto and those promises were to better— and those promises were to better protect— and those promises were to better protect animal welfare. tnts— better protect animal welfare. tnts ectten— better protect animal welfare. this action plan— better protect animal welfare. this action plan for animal wettere— this action plan for animal welfare was, _ this action plan for animal welfare was, you know, groundbreaking . it was supposed groundbreaking. it was supposed to groundbreaking. it was supposed te tnerewe— groundbreaking. it was supposed te tnerewe tne— groundbreaking. it was supposed to improve the lives of millions of to improve the lives of millions et entnets— to improve the lives of millions of animals and— to improve the lives of millions of animals and that's what the eutttc— of animals and that's what the eutttc went.— of animals and that's what the public want. the— of animals and that's what the public want. the public, the people— public want. the public, the eeeete tn— public want. the public, the eeeete tn tnts— public want. the public, the people in this country care eteut— people in this country care about animals— people in this country care about animals and understandably now about animals and understandably teet— about animals and understandably now feel completely down. now feel completely let down. i tttnt— now feel completely let down. i tntnt .— now feel completely let down. i tntnt . t— now feel completely let down. i tntnt . t-t— now feel completely let down. i think. i-i think— now feel completely let down. i think. i-i think i- now feel completely let down. i think. i-i think i think- think. i think i think i think you're right. many in you're right. many people in this country care very deeply about animals. this country care very deeply about animals . and things like about animals. and things like puppy about animals. and things like puppy are hard to puppy smuggling are hard to believe that that still happens

really country. but really in this country. but i don't mean to be mean, but when i look up peta on the internet , i look up peta on the internet, it does seem like maybe you're concentrating sometimes on things don't matter. so things that don't matter. so much. see that. peter much. so i did see that. peter was worrying, was demanding that we end the use of cruel terminology in sports, such as bull's eye and dead bird. also, you were calling for organisers of a cheese rolling contest to turn it into a vegan version and you were also talking about how animals are depicted in films. do you think maybe that's a bit of a distraction from things like this bill that could actually make a big difference ? actually make a big difference? yes well, i don't think it's a ttstrectten— yes well, i don't think it's a distraction from _ “tit: well, i don't think it's a distraction from this bill. i tntnt— distraction from this bill. i tntnt tne— distraction from this bill. i think the onus— distraction from this bill. i think the onus is on government to think the onus is on government te tettwer— think the onus is on government te tettwer tne— think the onus is on government to deliver the legislation that tney-we— to deliver the legislation that they've promised to introduce. andr— they've promised to introduce. ant. yeu— they've promised to introduce. ant. yeu knew.— they've promised to introduce. and, you know, peter's methods, you— and, you know, peter's methods, yeu knew.— and, you know, peter's methods, you know, there's— and, you know, peter's methods, you know, there's a— and, you know, peter's methods, you know, there's a multitude of netnets— you know, there's a multitude of netnets tnet— you know, there's a multitude of methods that we— you know, there's a multitude of methods that we use, but those are conversation _ methods that we use, but those are conversation starters. you knew— are conversation starters. you knew .— are conversation starters. you knew . tne— are conversation starters. you know , the things— are conversation starters. you know , the things that you know, the things that you mentioned,— know, the things that you mentioned, they get people tetttng— mentioned, they get people talking about— mentioned, they get people talking about really important ent— talking about really important issues and then— talking about really important issues and then might make many

people— issues and then might make many eeeete tntnt— issues and then might make many people think about— issues and then might make many people think about changing tnetr— people think about changing their behaviour— people think about changing their behaviour that will then newe— their behaviour that will then newe e— their behaviour that will then have a benefit— their behaviour that will then have a benefit for animals. but no, have a benefit for animals. but t— have a benefit for animals. but t ten-t— have a benefit for animals. but no, i don't think— have a benefit for animals. but no, i don't think our work is a ttstrectten— no, i don't think our work is a distraction from _ no, i don't think our work is a distraction from this bill. i tntnt— distraction from this bill. i tntnt eu— distraction from this bill. i think our work— distraction from this bill. i think our work is pushing to tntretuce— think our work is pushing to introduce this— think our work is pushing to introduce this bill and other tegtstetten— introduce this bill and other legislation to— introduce this bill and other legislation to protect animals tren— legislation to protect animals from suffering— legislation to protect animals from suffering and unfortunately .wntte— from suffering and unfortunately , while politicians— from suffering and unfortunately , while politicians are ttttertng— , while politicians are dithering, you know, animals are centtnutng— dithering, you know, animals are centtnutng te— dithering, you know, animals are continuing to suffer . “ «tilt? continuing to suffer. uh, yes, i do continuing to suffer. uh, yes, i to see— continuing to suffer. uh, yes, i to tnet— continuing to suffer. uh, yes, i do see that you can get headunes do see that you can get headlines with these kind of sillier discussions. in my view , and then bring the attention of the of the public in that way. but thank you very much indeed. senior campaigns manager way. but thank you very much ianeta, senior campaigns manager way. but thank you very much inlpeta,seni0iverner3igns manager way. but thank you very much ianeta,seni0iverner there. nanager at peta, kate verner there. thank you very much indeed. you're watching and listening to gb news sunday with me. emily carver. lots more carver. we've got lots more coming today's after coming up on today's show after activist group animal rising attempted to steal from the king's estate lambs. i'll be speaking to a farmer about the incident at stolen lambs . it's. incident at stolen lambs. it's. but first, let's get the news with tatiana sanchez . emily,

with tatiana sanchez. emily, thank you with tatiana sanchez. emily, tnent yeu very— with tatiana sanchez. emily, thank you very much.- i emily, thank you very much. it's 130. thank you very much. it's130. tnts— thank you very much. it's130. tnts ts— thank you very much. it's130. tnts ts tne— thank you very much. it's130. this is the latest— thank you very much. it's130. this is the latest from the gb wews— this is the latest from the gb wews teen. — this is the latest from the gb news room. itv— this is the latest from the gb news room. itv sources have told gb news room. itv sources have told en wews— news room. itv sources have told gb news bosses— news room. itv sources have told gb news bosses have just seven teys— gb news bosses have just seven teys te— gb news bosses have just seven teys te see— gb news bosses have just seven days to save this— gb news bosses have just seven days to save this morning tettewtng— days to save this morning following the— days to save this morning following the fallout surrounding phillip schofield and surrounding phillip schofield ent stett— surrounding phillip schofield and staff members who raised concerns . fans say executives concerns. fans say executives neet— concerns. fans say executives neet te— concerns. fans say executives neet te preve— concerns. fans say executives need to prove they're properly ettresstng— need to prove they're properly addressing the _ need to prove they're properly addressing the issue and they'll neet— addressing the issue and they'll neet te— addressing the issue and they'll neet te wtn— addressing the issue and they'll need to win back— addressing the issue and they'll need to win back the trust of tne— need to win back the trust of tne-tne— need to win back the trust of the the broadcaster has the viewers. the broadcaster has centtrnet— the viewers. the broadcaster has confirmed the _ the viewers. the broadcaster has confirmed the show will air tomorrow , adding it's not under tomorrow, adding it's not under ent— tomorrow, adding it's not under review and there— tomorrow, adding it's not under review and there are no plans for review and there are no plans ter tt— review and there are no plans ter tt te— review and there are no plans ter tt te te— review and there are no plans for it to be axed.— review and there are no plans for it to be axed. it's as new tetetts— for it to be axed. it's as new details emerged— for it to be axed. it's as new details emerged about schofield's_ details emerged about schofield's relationship with a runner who was— schofield's relationship with a runner who was reportedly 15 yeers— runner who was reportedly 15 yeers ett— runner who was reportedly 15 years old when— runner who was reportedly 15 years old when they first met. tne — years old when they first met. the government— years old when they first met. the government is launching an ad the government is launching an et ceneetgn— the government is launching an et ceneetgn te— the government is launching an ad campaign to stop people from cresstng— ad campaign to stop people from cresstng tne— ad campaign to stop people from crossing the channel. the advert sett— crossing the channel. the advert sett te— crossing the channel. the advert sett te te— crossing the channel. the advert said to be circulated in albania next— said to be circulated in albania next week.— said to be circulated in albania next week, will— said to be circulated in albania next week, will warn people they tece — next week, will warn people they tece tetng — next week, will warn people they face being detained and removed if face being detained and removed tt tney— face being detained and removed tt tney mete— face being detained and removed if they make the— face being detained and removed if they make the journey. critic newe— if they make the journey. critic newe etreety— if they make the journey. critic have already branded it as eetnttess— have already branded it as eetnttess .— have already branded it as pointless , saying it won't deter pointless, saying it won't deter tnen. — pointless, saying it won't deter tnen. a— pointless, saying it won't deter them. a record— pointless, saying it won't deter them. a record number of people mete— them. a record number of people nete tne— them. a record number of people made the crossing— them. a record number of people made the crossing in small boats test— made the crossing in small boats test yeer— made the crossing in small boats test yeer ent— made the crossing in small boats last year and more— made the crossing in small boats last year and more than 6000 newe— last year and more than 6000 newe teen— last year and more than 6000 have been intercepted so far

tnts— have been intercepted so far tnts yeer— have been intercepted so far tnts yeer .— have been intercepted so far this year. meanwhile, labour seys— this year. meanwhile, labour seys tt— this year. meanwhile, labour seys tt weutt— this year. meanwhile, labour says it would impose time limits on says it would impose time limits en ntrtng— says it would impose time limits on hiring overseas— says it would impose time limits on hiring overseas workers in a bid on hiring overseas workers in a ttt te— on hiring overseas workers in a ttt te tert— on hiring overseas workers in a bid to kerb migration. the snetew— bid to kerb migration. the shadow home— bid to kerb migration. the shadow home secretary, yvette ceettec— shadow home secretary, yvette ceener. nes— shadow home secretary, yvette cooper, has told _ shadow home secretary, yvette cooper, has told the sunday tetegreen— cooper, has told the sunday tetegreen tt— cooper, has told the sunday telegraph it would serve as an tncenttwe— telegraph it would serve as an tncenttwe te — telegraph it would serve as an incentive to train— telegraph it would serve as an incentive to train british workers. she _ incentive to train british workers. she also suggested the party— workers. she also suggested the eeny weutt— workers. she also suggested the eeny weutt est— workers. she also suggested the party would ask the migration atwsery— party would ask the migration advisory committee for eeereenete— advisory committee for appropriate timescales for tneentng— appropriate timescales for importing labour. so seven people— importing labour. so seven eeeete newe— importing labour. so seven people have been charged with the attempted— people have been charged with the attempted murder of a police etttcer— the attempted murder of a police etttcer tn— the attempted murder of a police officer in county— the attempted murder of a police officer in county tyrone. netecttwe — officer in county tyrone. detective chief inspector john cettwett— detective chief inspector john caldwell was— detective chief inspector john caldwell was shot several times at caldwell was shot several times et e— caldwell was shot several times et e snerts— caldwell was shot several times at a sports centre— caldwell was shot several times at a sports centre in omagh in tetruery— at a sports centre in omagh in retruery. twe— at a sports centre in omagh in february. two men— at a sports centre in omagh in february. two men were also cnerget— february. two men were also cnerget ter— february. two men were also charged for being members of the ira charged for being members of the ttta ent— charged for being members of the ttta ent tnree— charged for being members of the ira and three others with the ereeeretten— ira and three others with the ereeeretten et— ira and three others with the preparation of terrorist acts. all preparation of terrorist acts. att seen— preparation of terrorist acts. all seven men— preparation of terrorist acts. all seven men will appear in ceurt— all seven men will appear in ceun we— all seven men will appear in court via video— all seven men will appear in court via video link tomorrow . court via video link tomorrow. weu— court via video link tomorrow. veu cen— court via video link tomorrow. veu get— court via video link tomorrow. you can get more— court via video link tomorrow. you can get more on all of those stertes— you can get more on all of those stertes ty— you can get more on all of those stories by visiting _ you can get more on all of those stories by visiting our website at cbnnews.com_ stories by visiting our website

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me. so anyway, headline is every night from 11 on gb news britain's news . channel welcome britain's news. channel welcome back to gb news— britain's news. channel welcome back to gb news sunday.- “ “ welcome back to gb news sunday. with me, enty— back to gb news sunday. with me, tntty cener— back to gb news sunday. with me, tntty cener en— back to gb news sunday. with me, emily carver on your— back to gb news sunday. with me, emily carver on your tv and retre— emily carver on your tv and etc tet— emily carver on your tv and radio. let me— emily carver on your tv and radio. let me know what you tntnt— radio. let me know what you tntnt eteut— radio. let me know what you think about the _ radio. let me know what you think about the animal rights bill think about the animal rights tttt tnet— think about the animal rights bill that rishi _ think about the animal rights bill that rishi sunak the government— bill that rishi sunak the government have decided to ditch . is government have decided to ditch . ts tnet— government have decided to ditch . ts tnetlnretty— government have decided to ditch . is thatlpretty bad— government have decided to ditch . is that pretty bad move from . is that a pretty bad move from the government?— . is that a pretty bad move from the government?-it- . is that a pretty bad move from the government? it is. the government? i think it is. nut— the government? i think it is. but yeue— the government? i think it is. but you've been— the government? i think it is. but you've been getting touch but you've been getting in touch on but you've been getting in touch en-ttg— but you've been getting in touch en-ttg tentcs- but you've been getting in touch on big topics today, on all of our big topics today, ent— on all of our big topics today, ent get— on all of our big topics today, and we've got big— on all of our big topics today, and we've got big opinions on the government's— and we've got big opinions on the government's food cap plan. it the government's food cap plan. tt—seys- the government's food cap plan. tt—seyslney- the government's food cap plan. tt—seys.|ney tei it seems. robert says, i may be rtgnt— it seems. robert says, i may be rtgnt-tut— it seems. robert says, i may be rtgnt-tut t— it seems. robert says, i may be rtgnt-tut r en- it seems. robert says, i may be right-but i am not. right of centre, but i am not stunt.— right of centre, but i am not stuntt. tt— right of centre, but i am not stupid. if the— right of centre, but i am not stupid. if the conservatives went— stupid. if the conservatives went te— stupid. if the conservatives went te nut— stupid. if the conservatives went te gut e— stupid. if the conservatives want to put a cap on how much i cenlexetettet— want to put a cap on how much i can .exploited by— want to put a cap on how much i can exploited by supermarkets can be exploited by supermarkets and can be exploited by supermarkets ent—wettes- can be exploited by supermarkets and|i_providers,- can be exploited by supermarkets andii am-providers,- can be exploited by supermarkets and i am all providers, can be exploited by supermarkets and i am all for providers, can be exploited by supermarkets and i am all for it.)roviders, can be exploited by supermarkets and i am all for it. it's ders, can be exploited by supermarkets and i am all for it. it's not;, then i am all for it. it's not cernrnuntst— then i am all for it. it's not communist, it's— then i am all for it. it's not communist, it's real world. wett— communist, it's real world. wett. t— communist, it's real world. well, i would— communist, it's real world. well, i would argue that price centrets— well, i would argue that price centrets ee— well, i would argue that price controls are firmly in the communist— controls are firmly in the communist world. soviet union. et communist world. soviet union. tr cetee — communist world. soviet union. tr cetee tt— communist world. soviet union. et cetera. et cetera. we saw how tnet— et cetera. et cetera. we saw how tnet turnet— et cetera. et cetera. we saw how that turned out. _ et cetera. et cetera. we saw how that turned out. anyway, vtrgtnte— that turned out. anyway, virginia says— that turned out. anyway, virginia says this shows our gewernnent— virginia says this shows our government doesn't know to how gee— government doesn't know to how gewern-cenytng— government doesn't know to how govern copying other govern without copying other ceunttes— govern without copying other countries training countries need training for tnts—

countries need training for tnts. atweys— countries need training for this. always used to eu telling tnen — this. always used to eu telling tnen wnet— this. always used to eu telling tnen wnet te— this. always used to eu telling them what to do— this. always used to eu telling them what to do ,_ this. always used to eu telling them what to do , get rid of, them what to do, get rid of, nunt— them what to do, get rid of, nunt-get— them what to do, get rid of, hunt-get-country. them what to do, get rid of,- hunt-get-country moving hunt and get the country moving .lnesn-t— hunt and get the country moving .lnesn-t e— hunt and get the country moving .lnesn-t e ctue— hunt and get the country moving ..hasn't a clue and- hunt and get the country moving . hasn't a clue and is making . he hasn't a clue and is making us-wett.— . he hasn't a clue and is making us-well, that's- . he hasn't a clue and is making us-well, that's a- us very poor. well, that's a very— us very poor. well, that's a very-pent. - us very poor. well, that's a very point. we're all very good point. we're all teettng— very good point. we're all teettng e— very good point. we're all feeling a bit— very good point. we're all feeling a bit poorer than we were when the— feeling a bit poorer than we were when the conservatives got in. were when the conservatives got tn. -seys. — were when the conservatives got tn-seys. tt— were when the conservatives got tn-seys. rt tne- in. richard says. if the government- in. richard says. if the government it in. richard says. if the- government-it unprofitable government make it unprofitable for government make it unprofitable ter—te— government make it unprofitable ter—te-certetnl for supermarkets to sell certain eretucts. — for supermarkets to sell certain nretucts-sten- products, they still stop setttng— products, they still stop selling them.- products, they still stop selling them. they will stop setttng— selling them. they will stop selling them.— selling them. they will stop selling them. what genius tneugnt— selling them. what genius tneugnt-uee- selling them. what genius thought up? yes. if you put thought this up? yes. if you put cap,— thought this up? yes. if you put cee. tt— thought this up? yes. if you put cee. tt yeu— thought this up? yes. if you put cee. tt yeu cen— thought this up? yes. if you put cap, if you cap prices , you may cap, if you cap prices, you may wett— cap, if you cap prices, you may wett ent— cap, if you cap prices, you may wett ent un— cap, if you cap prices, you may well end up with— cap, if you cap prices, you may well end up with not enough supply-— well end up with not enough supplv- ts— well end up with not enough supplv- ts tnet— well end up with not enough supply. is that basic economics tore— supply. is that basic economics tore er— supply. is that basic economics 101? or should— supply. is that basic economics 101? or should the— supply. is that basic economics 101? or should the government be tetng— 101? or should the government be tetng tntse— 101? or should the government be tetng tntse tet— 101? or should the government be doing this? let me— 101? or should the government be doing this? let me know. keep yeur— doing this? let me know. keep yeur wews— doing this? let me know. keep your views coming in. subscribe to your views coming in. subscribe te eu— your views coming in. subscribe to our youtube _ your views coming in. subscribe to our youtube channel. follow us en twttter. — to our youtube channel. follow us on twitter. we— to our youtube channel. follow us on twitter. we are at gb wews. — us on twitter. we are at gb wews. se— us on twitter. we are at gb news. so moving on keir starmer nect— news. so moving on keir starmer nect tn— news. so moving on keir starmer nect tn tne— news. so moving on keir starmer nect tn tne-ne— news. so moving on keir starmer back in the he plans to back in the news, he plans to erect— back in the news, he plans to erect-wew— back in the news, he plans to block. new north- back in the news, he plans to block new north sea oil and block all new north sea oil and gas developments— block all new north sea oil and gas developments and limit terrewtng— gas developments and limit terrewtng te — gas developments and limit borrowing to green invest meant enty— borrowing to green invest meant enty es— borrowing to green invest meant enty es een— borrowing to green invest meant enty es gen et— borrowing to green invest meant enty es gen et e— borrowing to green invest meant only as part of a radical ttueertnt— only as part of a radical blueprint to— only as part of a radical blueprint to make britain a teen— blueprint to make britain a cteen energy— blueprint to make britain a clean energy superpower. the suntey— clean energy superpower. the suntey ttnes— clean energy superpower. the sunday times is— clean energy superpower. the sunday times is reporting that the sunday times is reporting that tne teteur— sunday times is reporting that the labour leader— sunday times is reporting that the labour leader will include a etetge— the labour leader will include a etetge te— the labour leader will include a etetge te ten— the labour leader will include a pledge to ban all— the labour leader will include a pledge to ban all new north sea oil pledge to ban all new north sea ett ent— pledge to ban all new north sea ett ent ges— pledge to ban all new north sea oil and gas licences as part of his oil and gas licences as part of nts twe—

oil and gas licences as part of nts ttwe tey— oil and gas licences as part of his five key pledges to the electorate. _ his five key pledges to the electorate. read more eagle eyed etserwers— electorate. read more eagle eyed observers-noticed- electorate. read more eagle eyed observers noticed that the observers have noticed that the etetge— observers have noticed that the etetge-exect— observers have noticed that the pledge exact concession to pledge is an exact concession to rust— pledge is an exact concession to rust stee— pledge is an exact concession to rust step ett— pledge is an exact concession to just stop oil demands. so if teteur— just stop oil demands. so if teteur get— just stop oil demands. so if labour get in— just stop oil demands. so if labour get in and they enact tnts— labour get in and they enact tnts eettcy— labour get in and they enact this policy, are— labour get in and they enact this policy, are they simply copying— this policy, are they simply copving what— this policy, are they simply copying what just stop oil? have tett— copying what just stop oil? have tett tnen— copying what just stop oil? have tett tnen te— copying what just stop oil? have told them to do?— copying what just stop oil? have told them to do? with me now to ttscuss— told them to do? with me now to ttscuss tnts— told them to do? with me now to discuss this is— told them to do? with me now to discuss this is john— told them to do? with me now to discuss this is john grant, senior lecturer— discuss this is john grant, senior lecturer in sustainable construction— senior lecturer in sustainable construction and— senior lecturer in sustainable construction and climate change . ent— construction and climate change . ent enne— construction and climate change , and emma webb,— construction and climate change , and emma webb, political commenter and— , and emma webb, political commenter and gb news presenter . tnent— commenter and gb news presenter . tnent yeu— commenter and gb news presenter . tnent yeu very— commenter and gb news presenter . thank you very much indeed for retntng— . thank you very much indeed for retntng ne— . thank you very much indeed for retntng ne .— . thank you very much indeed for retntng ne . renn— . thank you very much indeed for joining me . john, shall we start joining me. john, shall we start wttn— joining me. john, shall we start wttn wttn— joining me. john, shall we start wttn wttn yeu— joining me. john, shall we start with with you ?_ joining me. john, shall we start with with you ? are you very, with with you? are you very, very— with with you? are you very, very happy— with with you? are you very, very happy indeed to hear this tren— very happy indeed to hear this tren tetr— very happy indeed to hear this from keir starmer ? well i'm from keir starmer? well i'm happy— from keir starmer? well i'm neeey tnet— from keir starmer? well i'm happy that we're finally stentng— happy that we're finally stentng te— happy that we're finally starting to listen to the science that _ starting to listen to the science that we cannot continue to science that we cannot continue te extent— science that we cannot continue te exeent eu— science that we cannot continue to expand our oil— science that we cannot continue to expand our oil and gas. '“t: to expand our oil and gas. and in to expand our oil and gas. and tn tect— to expand our oil and gas. and tn test. we— to expand our oil and gas. and in fact, we need— to expand our oil and gas. and in fact, we need a— to expand our oil and gas. and in fact, we need a plan to ease back on all of that. and transition to a- transition to a cleaner way of eretuctng— transition to a cleaner way of producing things. and the and the producing things. and the and tne scener— producing things. and the and the sooner we _ producing things. and the and the sooner we do _ producing things. and the and the sooner we do that, the better— the sooner we do that, the better tne — the sooner we do that, the better the chance we have of tettng— better the chance we have of taking advantage of that transition— taking advantage of that transition . _ taking advantage of that transition . t:tit transition. emma why do you think keir starmer is doing this

? ithink think keir starmer is doing this ? i think one of the reasons is nettttcet— ? i think one of the reasons is eettttcet. t— ? i think one of the reasons is political. i think— ? i think one of the reasons is political. i think he— 7’ i think one of the reasons is political. i think he knows that tnts— political. i think he knows that tnts ts— political. i think he knows that tnts ts e— political. i think he knows that tnts ts e geet— political. i think he knows that this is a good political manoeuvre— this is a good political manoeuvre to try and steal seats tren— manoeuvre to try and steal seats tren tne— manoeuvre to try and steal seats tren tne swe— manoeuvre to try and steal seats from the snp because the snp newen-t— from the snp because the snp newen-t gutte— from the snp because the snp haven't quite gone as far as he is. haven't quite gone as far as he ts. etwteusty— haven't quite gone as far as he is. obviously willing to on this ent— is. obviously willing to on this ent t— is. obviously willing to on this ent t tntnt— is. obviously willing to on this and i think he— is. obviously willing to on this and i think he is— is. obviously willing to on this and i think he is making concessions— and i think he is making concessions to- and i think he is making concessions to just stop oil and i concessions to just stop oil and t tntnt— concessions to just stop oil and t tntnt tnet— concessions to just stop oil and i think that making concessions to i think that making concessions te e— i think that making concessions te e greun— i think that making concessions te e greue ttce— i think that making concessions to a group like just stop oil is ectuetty— to a group like just stop oil is actually frankly— to a group like just stop oil is actually frankly dangerous teceuse— actually frankly dangerous because we've _ actually frankly dangerous because we've seen the tactics tnet— because we've seen the tactics tnet tney— because we've seen the tactics tnet tney ee— because we've seen the tactics that they are willing to use and by testcetty— that they are willing to use and by basically kowtowing to them, you by basically kowtowing to them, yeu ee— by basically kowtowing to them, yeu tn— by basically kowtowing to them, you are in further— by basically kowtowing to them, you are in further incentivising tnet— you are in further incentivising tnet sen— you are in further incentivising tnet sert et— you are in further incentivising that sort of protest that is wttttng— that sort of protest that is wttttng te— that sort of protest that is willing to break the law . and i willing to break the law. and i tttnt— willing to break the law. and i think, frankly,— willing to break the law. and i think, frankly, that this tectsten— think, frankly, that this decision is— think, frankly, that this decision is an act of self harm. i decision is an act of self harm. t tntnt— decision is an act of self harm. t tntnt tts— decision is an act of self harm. i think it's going— decision is an act of self harm. i think it's going to make us more dependent— i think it's going to make us more dependent on imports from nteces— more dependent on imports from nteces ttce— more dependent on imports from places like russia— more dependent on imports from places like russia and saudi arette— places like russia and saudi arette et— places like russia and saudi arette et e— places like russia and saudi arabia at a time— places like russia and saudi arabia at a time when we really neet— arabia at a time when we really neet te— arabia at a time when we really neet te te— arabia at a time when we really need to be thinking about our energy— need to be thinking about our energy securtty— need to be thinking about our energy security. and now that teesn-t— energy security. and now that teesn-t neen— energy security. and now that doesn't mean that we don't tneretere— doesn't mean that we don't therefore invest— doesn't mean that we don't therefore invest in green energy. — therefore invest in green energy. tt— therefore invest in green energy. it doesn't mean that we ten-t— energy. it doesn't mean that we ten-t tnwest— energy. it doesn't mean that we don't invest in— energy. it doesn't mean that we don't invest in new— energy. it doesn't mean that we don't invest in new forms of tecnnetegy— don't invest in new forms of tecnnetegy tn— don't invest in new forms of technology in relation to energy.— technology in relation to energy. tut—

technology in relation to energy, but we do have to acknowledge _ energy, but we do have to acknowledge that sustainable all sources of green— acknowledge that sustainable all sources of green energy are not rettette— sources of green energy are not rettette .— sources of green energy are not rettette . we— sources of green energy are not reliable . we are— sources of green energy are not reliable . we are still extremely reliable. we are still extremely teeentent— reliable. we are still extremely teeentent en— reliable. we are still extremely dependent on oil— reliable. we are still extremely dependent on oil and gas and i tntnt— dependent on oil and gas and i tntnt tnet— dependent on oil and gas and i think that this— dependent on oil and gas and i think that this puts us in a tengereus— think that this puts us in a dangerous position where we weutt— dangerous position where we weutt ent— dangerous position where we weutt ent un— dangerous position where we would end up essentially like cerneny.— would end up essentially like germany, which— would end up essentially like germany, which we've just seen test— germany, which we've just seen test weet— germany, which we've just seen last week tipping— germany, which we've just seen last week tipping into recession,— last week tipping into recession, partly because of tnere— recession, partly because of tnere tetng— recession, partly because of there being much more dependent on there being much more dependent en tussten— there being much more dependent en tussten ett— there being much more dependent on russian oil and— there being much more dependent on russian oil and gas than we se— on russian oil and gas than we se reente— on russian oil and gas than we are. so people like— on russian oil and gas than we are. so people like keir starmer wne— are. so people like keir starmer wne ge— are. so people like keir starmer wne ge ereunt— are. so people like keir starmer who go around wearing ribbons for who go around wearing ribbons ter ttretne— who go around wearing ribbons for ukraine would— who go around wearing ribbons for ukraine would actually be eutttng— for ukraine would actually be eutttng us— for ukraine would actually be eutttng us tn— for ukraine would actually be eutttng us tn e— for ukraine would actually be putting us in a situation where we weutt— putting us in a situation where we weutt te— putting us in a situation where we would be less— putting us in a situation where we would be less able to stand up egetnst— we would be less able to stand up egetnst reente— we would be less able to stand up against people like vladimir ruttn— up against people like vladimir ruttn es— up against people like vladimir ruttn es e— up against people like vladimir putin as a result— up against people like vladimir putin as a result of energy nettctes— putin as a result of energy policies that— putin as a result of energy policies that are as stupid as tnts. — policies that are as stupid as tnts. wett— policies that are as stupid as tnts. wett .— policies that are as stupid as this. well, i— policies that are as stupid as this. well, i think- policies that are as stupid as this. �*vw�*ticc “

decimate our own industry and benefit it potentially nefarious regimes around the world. well, it's a it's a completely ti; : : well, it's a it's a completely false nenettwe — it's a it's a completely false narrative. what— it's a it's a completely false narrative. what we've got here is narrative. what we've got here rs rust— narrative. what we've got here rs rust stee— narrative. what we've got here rs rust step ett— narrative. what we've got here is just stop oil got they're stentng— is just stop oil got they're steeetng et— is just stop oil got they're stopping of exploration from the tnet— stopping of exploration from the science that says— stopping of exploration from the science that says stop making it se tne— science that says stop making it worse. so the idea— science that says stop making it worse. so the idea that they're copying _ worse. so the idea that they're ceeytng rust— worse. so the idea that they're copt/ins; just stop— worse. so the idea that they're copying just stop oil is you're ntsstng— copying just stop oil is you're ntsstng tne— copying just stop oil is you're missing the point what what i nene— missing the point what what i neee ts— missing the point what what i neee ts tetng— missing the point what what i hope is doing is— missing the point what what i hope is doing is copying the science that— hope is doing is copying the science that says we have to step. — science that says we have to step. we— science that says we have to step. we newe— science that says we have to stop. we have to— science that says we have to stop. we have to move away from oil stop. we have to move away from ett ent— stop. we have to move away from ett ent ges— stop. we have to move away from ett ent ges ent— stop. we have to move away from oil and gas and we— stop. we have to move away from oil and gas and we have the eeeenuntty— oil and gas and we have the eeeenuntty te— oil and gas and we have the opportunity to pivot all these tentesttc— opportunity to pivot all these fantastic skills— opportunity to pivot all these fantastic skills that we have tren — fantastic skills that we have tren ett— fantastic skills that we have from oil exploration into exetenng— from oil exploration into exploring the- from oil exploration into exploring the tidal stream and the exploring the tidal stream and tne tttet— exploring the tidal stream and the tidal barriers— exploring the tidal stream and the tidal barriers and wind turttnes— the tidal barriers and wind turbines that— the tidal barriers and wind turbines that that, you know, if you— turbines that that, you know, if yeu centtne— turbines that that, you know, if you combine all— turbines that that, you know, if you combine all of those renewables,_ you combine all of those renewables, we do get a secure supply_ renewables, we do get a secure supply - _ renewables, we do get a secure surety . nut— renewables, we do get a secure supply - butjohn— renewables, we do get a secure supply . renewables, we do get a secure supply. but john, john, john, sorry to interrupt you, john, but sorry to interrupt you . but but sorry to interrupt you. but

these oil , these oil and gas these oil, these oil and gas companies , for example, the ones companies, for example, the ones in the north sea based around aberdeen , for example, they're aberdeen, for example, they're not going to stop drilling. they're just going to take their machinery and take their skills elsewhere in the world. and they'll be paying their taxes. there in indonesia or in parts of the arab world. et cetera. et cetera . and it won't do anything cetera. and it won't do anything to stop climate change. it will simply mean that we don't benefit from it here. no, no, we have benefit from it here. no, no, we newe egreet— benefit from it here. no, no, we newe egreet es— benefit from it here. no, no, we have agreed as a— benefit from it here. no, no, we have agreed as a planet- c c “tiiti no, no, we have agreed as a planet that net getng— have agreed as a planet that we're not going to burn it. it seernet— we're not going to burn it. it seemed sensible— we're not going to burn it. it seemed sensible at the. �*vw�*ti seemed sensible at the. we newer-t— seemed sensible at the. we haven't agreed— seemed sensible at the. we haven't agreed that though china hasn't agreed, india hasn't agreed, pakistan hasn't agreed . agreed, pakistan hasn't agreed. us industry. you can't just say, oh,— us industry. you can't just say, on. yeen.— us industry. you can't just say, on. yeen. wett— us industry. you can't just say, oh, yeah, well, we'll just do it somewhere else. _ oh, yeah, well, we'll just do it somewhere else. no, no , we have somewhere else. no, no, we have to somewhere else. no, no, we have te retuce— somewhere else. no, no, we have te retuce tne— somewhere else. no, no, we have to reduce the amount of carbon erntsstens— to reduce the amount of carbon emissions we're— to reduce the amount of carbon emissions we're doing and carbon centure— emissions we're doing and carbon centure ts— emissions we're doing and carbon centure ts e— emissions we're doing and carbon ceeture ts e ttt— emissions we're doing and carbon capture is a bit of— emissions we're doing and carbon capture is a bit of a— emissions we're doing and carbon capture is a bit of a fantasy at tne— capture is a bit of a fantasy at tne cent— capture is a bit of a fantasy at the moment. we— capture is a bit of a fantasy at the moment. we should be tnwesttng— the moment. we should be tnwesttng tn— the moment. we should be investing in those technologies tnet— investing in those technologies tnet ettet— investing in those technologies tnet etter e— investing in those technologies that offer a huge— investing in those technologies that offer a huge economic

benefit.— that offer a huge economic benefit, not— that offer a huge economic benefit, not in— that offer a huge economic benefit, not in making a short term— benefit, not in making a short term erent— benefit, not in making a short term nrettt .— benefit, not in making a short term profit , which i benefit, not in making a short term profit, which i get benefit, not in making a short term profit , which i get what term profit, which i get what yeue— term profit, which i get what yeue seytng— term profit, which i get what yeue seytng. t— term profit, which i get what you're saying. i don't know. i tttnt— you're saying. i don't know. i tntnt tne— you're saying. i don't know. i think the scottish— you're saying. i don't know. i think the scottish government have very much been dependent on that oil and gas money for a very long time indeed. emma, i'll come back to you. john sounds very nice. he wants us all to live in a greener, cleaner world. i do believe cleaner world. i do too. believe it i'm wearing green it or not, i'm wearing green because i care passionately about environment. about the environment. of course, is emma. course, john. and so is emma. emma there as well? should we be putting all of our eggs into the renewable basket, cutting off the gas and oil? we are too good for that. now now, i just don't for that. now now, ijust don't tntnt— for that. now now, ijust don't tntnt tnet— for that. now now, ijust don't think that that's— \ttif.t�*ttt" now, i just don't think that that's sensible at ett— think that that's sensible at ett. ant— think that that's sensible at all. and look,— think that that's sensible at all. and look, these net zero eettctes— all. and look, these net zero eettctes te— all. and look, these net zero policies do not— all. and look, these net zero policies do not have a democratic— policies do not have a democratic mandate. we've had no nenecrettc— democratic mandate. we've had no democratic discussion in of what tnese— democratic discussion in of what tnese net— democratic discussion in of what tnese net ee— democratic discussion in of what these net zero policies actually ter— these net zero policies actually mean for people's— these net zero policies actually mean for people's lives. these net zero policies actually mean for people's lives . and the mean for people's lives. and the tnet— mean for people's lives. and the tnet tney— mean for people's lives. and the more that they get— mean for people's lives. and the more that they get pushed, ectuetty— more that they get pushed, actually the _ more that they get pushed, actually the more we're seeing resstece— actually the more we're seeing resistance against— actually the more we're seeing resistance against them as well. ant— resistance against them as well. ant yeu— resistance against them as well. ant yeu cen— resistance against them as well. ant yeu see— resistance against them as well. and you can see what's happening at and you can see what's happening et-nenent— and you can see what's happening et-nenentltne— and you can see what's happening at moment the netherlands at the moment in the netherlands wttn—wne— at the moment in the netherlands wttn—wne ee- at the moment in the netherlands with who are having with the farmers who are having tnetr— with the farmers who are having their-basically— with the farmers who are having their basically stolen from their land basically stolen from ten — their land basically stolen from ten ty— their land basically stolen from ten ty ty— their land basically stolen from ten ty ty tne— their land basically stolen from them by by the dutch government tnere— them by by the dutch government tnere. se— them by by the dutch government tnere. se teen— them by by the dutch government there. so look, i— them by by the dutch government there. so look, i don't think

tts— there. so look, i don't think tt-s true— there. so look, i don't think it's true that— there. so look, i don't think it's true that we— there. so look, i don't think it's true that we have agreed as as it's true that we have agreed as es e ntenet— it's true that we have agreed as as a planet exactly— it's true that we have agreed as as a planet exactly what course we sneutt— as a planet exactly what course we sneutt te — as a planet exactly what course we should be taking. and ectuetty— we should be taking. and actually we're— we should be taking. and actually we're seeing this push tewerts— actually we're seeing this push towards things— actually we're seeing this push towards things like electric wentctes— towards things like electric vehicles and— towards things like electric vehicles and more reliance on etectrtctty— vehicles and more reliance on electricity. but— vehicles and more reliance on electricity. but the reality is tnet— electricity. but the reality is tnet azte— electricity. but the reality is tnet ante et— electricity. but the reality is that 42% of our— electricity. but the reality is that 42% of our electricity sttu— that 42% of our electricity still comes _ that 42% of our electricity still comes from oil and gas. so we net tn— still comes from oil and gas. so we are not in a— still comes from oil and gas. so we are not in a position where we are not in a position where we rust— we are not in a position where we rust ur— we are not in a position where we can just run headlong into tnts— we can just run headlong into tnts net— we can just run headlong into tnts net ee— we can just run headlong into this net zero utopian upland as wett— this net zero utopian upland as wet ent— this net zero utopian upland as well and expect— this net zero utopian upland as well and expect that this isn't going— well and expect that this isn't getng te— well and expect that this isn't getng te newe— well and expect that this isn't going to have dire impacts on eeeete-s— going to have dire impacts on eeeete-s ttwes— going to have dire impacts on people's lives. and i think, trentty— people's lives. and i think, trentty .— people's lives. and i think, trentty . tts— people's lives. and i think, frankly , it's a— people's lives. and i think, frankly , it's a political frankly, it's a political decision. _ frankly, it's a political decision. of- frankly, it's a political decision. of course it is teceuse— decision. of course it is because all— decision. of course it is because all politicians are tntnttng— because all politicians are thinking about— because all politicians are thinking about the politics tentnt— thinking about the politics behind these— thinking about the politics behind these sorts of decisions . tts— behind these sorts of decisions . tt-s net— behind these sorts of decisions . tt-s net rust— behind these sorts of decisions . it's not just goody two—shoes trytng— . it's not just goody two—shoes trytng-senetntng- . it's not just goody two—shoes trying something for trying to do something nice for the trying to do something nice for tne-we— trying to do something nice for tne-we cen— trying to do something nice for the-we can all- trying to do something nice for the we can all agree the planet. we can all agree tnet— the planet. we can all agree tnet tts— the planet. we can all agree tnet tt-s e— the planet. we can all agree that it's a good— the planet. we can all agree that it's a good thing to be geet— that it's a good thing to be good custodians of the planet, but good custodians of the planet, tut we— good custodians of the planet, tut we ee— good custodians of the planet, but we are absolutely not agreed on. but we are absolutely not agreed tne— but we are absolutely not agreed tne test— but we are absolutely not agreed on. the best way— but we are absolutely not agreed on. the best way to _ but we are absolutely not agreed on. the best way to go about tnet— on. the best way to go about tnet. ant— on. the best way to go about that. and frankly,— on. the best way to go about that. and frankly, i think that the decision— that. and frankly, i think that the decision that— that. and frankly, i think that the decision that starmer has mete— the decision that starmer has nete nere— the decision that starmer has nete nere ts— the decision that starmer has made here is frankly reckless. wett— made here is frankly reckless. wett yes. — made here is frankly reckless. wett yes. t— made here is frankly reckless. well yes. i mean,- made here is frankly reckless. well yes. i mean, i- made here is frankly reckless. well yes. “ t:tit well yes. i mean, i do look at just stop oil. and i was thinking yesterday when they

stormed the twickenham rugby stadium, that perhaps it wasn't very eco friendly to be a pounng very eco friendly to be a pouring orange powder , glowing pouring orange powder, glowing orange powder all over the pitch. but perhaps that's, you know, old fashioned. john would you welcome a referendum on net zero so that we can make it? we can find out for sure that the country, at least, if not the planet , is decided country, at least, if not the planet, is decided on this . planet, is decided on this. well, i'd welcome people ecceettng— well, i'd welcome people accepting that— well, i'd welcome people accepting that we have a scenic— accepting that we have a scientific base - accepting that we have a scientific base as to how we mete— scientific base as to how we nete tnts— scientific base as to how we make this transition. i eeerectete— make this transition. i appreciate emma doesn't want to tete— appreciate emma doesn't want to tete tne— appreciate emma doesn't want to tete tne ttst— appreciate emma doesn't want to take the risk of— appreciate emma doesn't want to take the risk of people's lives ent— take the risk of people's lives ent ewerytntng.— take the risk of people's lives and everything, and i get that. i and everything, and i get that. t ten-t— and everything, and i get that. t ten-t went— and everything, and i get that. i don't want to— and everything, and i get that. i don't want to either. but the tect— i don't want to either. but the tect ts— i don't want to either. but the tect ts tnet— i don't want to either. but the fact is that the— i don't want to either. but the fact is that the transition this is fact is that the transition this ts net— fact is that the transition this ts net see— fact is that the transition this ts net t— fact is that the transition this is not some i know i'm some a stereetyne— is not some i know i'm some a stereetyee nere— is not some i know i'm some a stereotype here of— is not some i know i'm some a stereotype here of bearded eco ent— stereotype here of bearded eco warrior and everything . but the warrior and everything. but the reetty— warrior and everything. but the reettty ts— warrior and everything. but the reettty ts tne— warrior and everything. but the reality is the reality is that twe— reality is the reality is that he spent— reality is the reality is that he spent ze— reality is the reality is that i've spent 26 years teaching how we getng— i've spent 26 years teaching how we getng te— i've spent 26 years teaching how we are going to make this trensttten— we are going to make this transition and— we are going to make this transition and the and the lives of transition and the and the lives et tne— transition and the and the lives et tne reente— transition and the and the lives of the people post— transition and the and the lives of the people post transition is

better— of the people post transition is better. — of the people post transition is better. nut— of the people post transition is better . but john,— of the people post transition is better. but john, a- of the people post transition is better. : better. but john, a referendum. yes. or no? a referendum, yes or no ? no referendum is ridiculous no? no referendum is ridiculous teceuse— no? no referendum is ridiculous because we know— “tit7 no referendum is ridiculous because we know what the answer is because we know what the answer ts . — because we know what the answer ts . ttts— because we know what the answer ts . ttts ts— because we know what the answer ts . ttts ts rust— because we know what the answer is. this is just like— because we know what the answer is. this is just like discussing and having a referendum on what temperature water boils . emily temperature water boils. emily so anyone, anyone, emily so anyone, anyone, anyone , so anyone, anyone, anyone, enyene— so anyone, anyone, anyone, enyene et— so anyone, anyone, anyone, anyone at home,- so anyone, anyone, anyone, anyone at home, you know, we've etreety— anyone at home, you know, we've already decided _ anyone at home, you know, we've already decided net— anyone at home, you know, we've already decided net zero is the enty— already decided net zero is the enty wey. — already decided net zero is the enty wey. we— already decided net zero is the only way. no need- already decided net zero is the only way. \ttiit : ti“ only way. no need for a vote on it. if you disagree, you're just too stupid. and we'll see. we'll see. i think a referendum would be quite fun. it would bring things to the fore. but there you go. perhaps we've too you go. perhaps we've had too many grant, many referendums. john grant, thank much indeed. thank you very much indeed. senior lecturer in sustainable construction climate change, senior lecturer in sustainable constructio webb,zlimate change, senior lecturer in sustainable constructio webb, political hange, and emma webb, political commentator gb news commentator and gb news presenter . commentator and gb news presenter. so moving from the climate to animal rising, it's been quite an environment heavy show. i like it. animal rising, active list stole three lambs from the king's estate. this week. they claim to be rescuing the animals. animal rising said their activists took the lambs from appleton farm on the estate

because the animals were due to because the animals were due to be sent for slaughter. they say the animals were safe and with animal experts. it also says more high profile, open rescues are planned this summer. the activists have been released without charge . so joining me without charge. so joining me now is douglas , a farmer from now is douglas, a farmer from surrey who knows all about this. douglas, thank you very much indeed. oh, you're outside on the . lovely. the the fields. lovely. enjoying the sun there , douglas, is this sun there, douglas, this is this is shocking , actually, is quite shocking, actually, that are these groups, that there are these groups, these groups are these activist groups that are now stealing property . now stealing property. absolutely. i must just say , absolutely. i must just say, tnst— absolutely. i must just say, ttrst et— absolutely. i must just say, first of all,— absolutely. i must just say, first of all, i've— absolutely. i must just say, first of all, i've never heard so first of all, i've never heard se nucn— first of all, i've never heard so much rubbish- first of all, i've never heard so much rubbish from that last genttenen. — so much rubbish from that last gentleman. every— so much rubbish from that last gentleman. every time we follow the gentleman. every time we follow tne scence— gentleman. every time we follow tne tt— gentleman. every time we follow the science, it leads me to the eey — the science, it leads me to the eey tt— the science, it leads me to the money. it leads— the science, it leads me to the money. it leads me to the money every— money. it leads me to the money every tne.— money. it leads me to the money ewery ttne. wew— money. it leads me to the money every time. now these activists, as every time. now these activists, es tney— every time. now these activists, es tney cett— every time. now these activists, as they call themselves that going— as they call themselves that getng cut.— as they call themselves that going out, stealing other eecute-s— going out, stealing other people's properties, the lambs, tney— people's properties, the lambs, tney ee— people's properties, the lambs, tney .— people's properties, the lambs, tney . t— people's properties, the lambs, they are . i read— people's properties, the lambs, they are . i read up on them. one they are. i read up on them. one of they are. i read up on them. one et tnen— they are. i read up on them. one et tnen ts— they are. i read up on them. one of them is regularly, four times a of them is regularly, four times e newn— of them is regularly, four times e nentn. tetng— of them is regularly, four times a month, being arrested for some ecttwtty— a month, being arrested for some ecttwtty. tney— a month, being arrested for some activity. they also— a month, being arrested for some activity. they also say on their

wetstte— activity. they also say on their wetstte tney— activity. they also say on their website they are— activity. they also say on their website they are funding by a anonymous and— website they are funding by a anonymous and american. so they newe— anonymous and american. so they newe e— anonymous and american. so they newe e ettt— anonymous and american. so they have a bill payer.— anonymous and american. so they have a bill payer. so— anonymous and american. so they have a bill payer. so let's just cett— have a bill payer. so let's just cett ntn— have a bill payer. so let's just call him bill— have a bill payer. so let's just call him bill for— have a bill payer. so let's just call him bill for short. he then or call him bill for short. he then er tne— call him bill for short. he then er tne ettt— call him bill for short. he then or the bill payer— call him bill for short. he then or the bill payer is— call him bill for short. he then or the bill payer is actually tunttng— or the bill payer is actually funding them— or the bill payer is actually funding them for all of their wews— funding them for all of their works activities— funding them for all of their works activities that they do, wntcn— works activities that they do, wntcn ceuse— works activities that they do, which cause disruption to ewerytety. — which cause disruption to everybody. stealing lambs is tetetty— everybody. stealing lambs is tetetty weng— everybody. stealing lambs is totally wrong. as you can see, t-n — totally wrong. as you can see, t-n eut— totally wrong. as you can see, t-n eut nere— totally wrong. as you can see, i'm out here with— totally wrong. as you can see, i'm out here with my sheep at tne— i'm out here with my sheep at tne cent— i'm out here with my sheep at the moment. they— i'm out here with my sheep at the moment. they are very happy to the moment. they are very happy te te— the moment. they are very happy te te nere. — the moment. they are very happy te te nere. we— the moment. they are very happy to be here. we don't— the moment. they are very happy to be here. we don't want people wetttng— to be here. we don't want people wetttng ente— to be here. we don't want people walking onto our— to be here. we don't want people walking onto our ground stealing tnese— walking onto our ground stealing tnese sneer. — walking onto our ground stealing those sheep. lg "cat those sheep. douglas they say they know better. of course they say they had animal experts with them and things like this. but how would lambs react mentally and emotionally to being snatched in this way? could it be quite traumatic for such small creatures ? yes, of course small creatures? yes, of course it would do because the sheep you can see behind me, they're all very gentle. they're they're out all very gentle. they're they're eut ntcety— all very gentle. they're they're out nicely grazing— all very gentle. they're they're out nicely grazing .— ttigt g they're they're out nicely grazing . and when you out nicely grazing. and when you newe— out nicely grazing. and when you newe e— out nicely grazing. and when you newe e strenger— out nicely grazing. and when you have a stranger come onto the greunt— have a stranger come onto the greunt ent— have a stranger come onto the ground and start— have a stranger come onto the ground and start stealing them, snetcntng— ground and start stealing them, snatching them,—

snatching them, that's kidnap. tnet-s— snatching them, that's kidnap. tnet-s tnett. — snatching them, that's kidnap. that's theft, that's rustling . that's theft, that's rustling. tnet-s— that's theft, that's rustling. tnet-s ett— that's theft, that's rustling. that's all illegal. and it's treunettc— that's all illegal. and it's traumatic to— that's all illegal. and it's traumatic to them. so what have tney— traumatic to them. so what have tney tenee— traumatic to them. so what have they done? they've— traumatic to them. so what have they done? they've gone out tnere— they done? they've gone out there. they've _ they done? they've gone out there. they've taken the lambs. tney-we— there. they've taken the lambs. tney-we eut— there. they've taken the lambs. they've put them _ there. they've taken the lambs. they've put them in a vehicle. they— they've put them in a vehicle. tney eretetty— they've put them in a vehicle. they probably didn't have a movement which they probably didn't have a- movement-whichlwhat movement licence which is what you movement licence which is what yeu—ant- movement licence which is what yeu—ant tney-wel you need to have. and they've teten— you need to have. and they've teten tnen— you need to have. and they've taken them somewhere where they ten-t— taken them somewhere where they ten-t knew— taken them somewhere where they don't know anything. they're not egrtcutturet— agricultural people reading eteut— agricultural people reading about these— agricultural people reading about these people. they have no ttee— about these people. they have no ttee er— about these people. they have no idea or knowledge— about these people. they have no idea or knowledge of animals and ennet— idea or knowledge of animals and animal welfare— idea or knowledge of animals and animal welfare .— idea or knowledge of animals and animal welfare . so— idea or knowledge of animals and animal welfare . so i think it's animal welfare. so i think it's tetetty— animal welfare. so i think it's tetetty wreng— animal welfare. so i think it's tetetty wreng .— animal welfare. so i think it's totally wrong . and i understand totally wrong. and i understand tney— totally wrong. and i understand tney ttt— totally wrong. and i understand tney ttt tne— totally wrong. and i understand they did the theft— totally wrong. and i understand they did the theft out in sandringham_ they did the theft out in sandringham to and make a big tntng— sandringham to and make a big tntng et— sandringham to and make a big tntng et rt.— sandringham to and make a big tntng et n, tney— sandringham to and make a big thing of it, they actually drove tewn— thing of it, they actually drove tewn te— thing of it, they actually drove down to windsor— thing of it, they actually drove down to windsor to be arrested at down to windsor to be arrested et wtntser— down to windsor to be arrested at windsor castle— down to windsor to be arrested at windsor castle and taken to steugn— at windsor castle and taken to steugn rettce— at windsor castle and taken to slough police station. now, if tney-re— slough police station. now, if tney-re eteut— slough police station. now, if they're about activists and tney-re— they're about activists and they're about— they're about activists and they're about just stop oil, wntcn— they're about just stop oil, which they've _ they're about just stop oil, which they've done before , so which they've done before, so tnese— which they've done before, so tnese-sten— which they've done before, so these-stop oil,- which they've done before, so these stop oil, go these just stop oil, go everywhere— these just stop oil, go everywhere causing disruption , everywhere causing disruption, twerytety— everywhere causing disruption, twerytety gees— everywhere causing disruption, everybody goes out to enjoy themselves— everybody goes out to enjoy themselves the _ everybody goes out to enjoy themselves the same as at the ”19w— themselves the same as at the rugby. et— themselves the same as at the rugby. et tne— themselves the same as at the rugby, at the football, at the reetty— rugby, at the football, at the derby .— rugby, at the football, at the derby . et— rugby, at the football, at the derby , at chelsea flower show. derby, at chelsea flower show. ant— derby, at chelsea flower show. ant yeu— derby, at chelsea flower show. ant yeu newe— derby, at chelsea flower show. and you have these people come eteng— and you have these people come eteng ent— and you have these people come along and think— and you have these people come along and think it's big and ctewer — along and think it's big and ctewer -tn— along and think it's big and clever. in orange stuff clever. throw in orange stuff all clever. throw in orange stuff ett ewer— clever. throw in orange stuff all over them.— clever. throw in orange stuff all over them. it's not big. tts— all over them. it's not big. tt-s net— all over them. it's not big. it's not clever.— all over them. it's not big.

it's not clever. and they're tuntet— it's not clever. and they're tuntet ty— it's not clever. and they're funded by another. the funded by another. once the neney— funded by another. once the neney steps— funded by another. once the neney steps .— funded by another. once the money stops , they will stop. money stops, they will stop. wnet— money stops, they will stop. wnet yeu— money stops, they will stop. wnet yeu-ts- money stops, they will stop. what you is when the what you find it is when the ergen— what you find it is when the ergen gnnter— what you find it is when the organ grinder winds the organ reunt — organ grinder winds the organ reunt tne— organ grinder winds the organ round. the monkeys dance to that tune— round. the monkeys dance to that tune ent— round. the monkeys dance to that tune and -exactly- round. the monkeys dance to that tune and exactly what tune and that's exactly what tney— tune and that's exactly what tney-tetng. — tune and that's exactly what tney-tetng. t— tune and that's exactly what they doing. i think they are doing. i think you seeet— they are doing. i think you seeet ter— they are doing. i think you speak for majority of the speak for the majority of the common-public- speak for the majority of the common public out there. common sense public out there. our— common sense public out there. our wtewers— common sense public out there. our viewers definitely— common sense public out there. our viewers definitely ,- common sense public out there. our viewers definitely , who- our viewers definitely, who would also call them oiks . i would also call them oiks. i think i think that's the perfect word . it tends to be a lot of word. it tends to be a lot of these activists don't have the foggiest about agriculture and farming. they think they know best. are often sitting and best. they are often sitting and town dwellers, aren't they, who have a particular viewpoint and they think that they best they think that they know best and enforce it even if and they will enforce it even if it means stealing poor little lambs. so it is absolutely ridiculous. thank you very much indeed for time. i hope you indeed for your time. i hope you have a lovely afternoon in the sun there at your farm. douglas farmer from surrey, knows farmer from surrey, who knows all happening all about what was happening with rising, the with the animal rising, the activist who stole three activist group who stole three lambs sandringham estate. lambs from sandringham estate. pretty outrageous behaviour. let me know what you think about that. you have been getting in touch on one of our big topics

of the day, which was the ditching the animal welfare ditching of the animal welfare bill. outraged bill. people are pretty outraged by linda says boris by this. linda says. boris promised live exports. promised no more live exports. but now sunak and the useless coffee. that's coffee. coffee. that's tyrese coffee. have blocked it. well, there you go. yes. this was kyrees law, wasn't it ? carrie johnson. boris wasn't it? carrie johnson. boris johnson's wife. this was her law . this was the one that she was most passionate about. she was particularly passionate about animal rights, of course. so they will be disappointed. i wonder if boris johnson has something to say. lily says the ban on live animal exports was a great brexit benefit , one of great brexit benefit, one of many great brexit benefits for animals that are never highlighted . it's terrible that highlighted. it's terrible that the tories have been this brexit benefit . well, there you go. you benefit. well, there you go. you could frame it in that way. is this our government letting down the people's vote ? lots of the people's vote? lots of people out there really do care passionately about animal rights . you don't have to be part of one of these ridiculous groups called animal rising care called animal rising to care about animals and to care about puppy about animals and to care about puppy smuggling and the exports of live stock . et cetera. et

of live stock. et cetera. et cetera. so please do keep your views coming in. or perhaps you think deal and the think it's no big deal and the government focusing on government should be focusing on other anyway. are open other things anyway. we are open to all opinions also while to all opinions and also, while you're subscribe to our you're at it, subscribe to our youtube on youtube channel. follow us on twitter. we're at gb news. so moving on something very moving on to something very different indeed. cyclists who were born male are now to be banned from racing in elite female british cycling events . female british cycling events. under the new policy, racing will be split into two categories female and also open. so by the sounds of it, there's no male category, it's just an open one. so those that will be eligible, eligible to compete in the latter include transgender women and men, non—binary individuals and those who sex was male at at birth. so joining me now is diversity and inclusion facilitator peter, katie, john, katie , lovely to katie, john, katie, lovely to speak to you again. i think we spoke just a few weeks ago, actually. so it's nice to see you again. what do you make of this? in my mind , this is common this? in my mind, this is common sense and this is something that perhaps other sports should

copy. i think we've gone kind of full circle arc on this towards common sense. yes. i think, as you know, i've even moved my position over the years on this . i think, you know, back in 2010 with the equality act, everyone put equality and they put inclusion they put put inclusion and they put diversity first. but people terget— diversity first. but people terget te— diversity first. but people terget te eut— diversity first. but people forgot to put in— t: cat �*" but people forgot to put in round some et— forgot to put in round some areas of life— forgot to put in round some areas of life safety first and tetrness— areas of life safety first and fairness first. _ areas of life safety first and fairness first. ' “t: areas of life safety first and fairness first. '“t: areas of life safety first and fairness first. “t: fairness first. and i think both safety and fairness apply to many , many sports. obviously for many, many sports. obviously for exempte— many, many sports. obviously for example, something— many, many sports. obviously for example, something like- “i“«t “i“«t obviously for example, something like rugby or etners— example, something like rugby or etners wnere— example, something like rugby or others where you— example, something like rugby or others where you will have a nuge— others where you will have a nuge wetgnt— others where you will have a huge weight and— others where you will have a huge weight and height etwentege— huge weight and height advantage, but cycling still an etwentege— advantage, but cycling still an advantage and— advantage, but cycling still an advantage and there's very few snens— advantage and there's very few snens tn— advantage and there's very few sports in which— advantage and there's very few sports in which there isn't a mete— sports in which there isn't a nete tern— sports in which there isn't a male born advantage. in fact , male born advantage. in fact, tne— male born advantage. in fact, tne eren— male born advantage. in fact, the open category will also centetn— the open category will also contain transgender men if they newe— contain transgender men if they newe teten— contain transgender men if they have taken testosterone, because the testosterone _ have taken testosterone, because the testosterone limits that were actually— the testosterone limits that were actually already in place in were actually already in place tn e— were actually already in place tn e nurnert— were actually already in place in a number of— were actually already in place in a number of sports would ectuetty— in a number of sports would actually rule— in a number of sports would actually rule out— in a number of sports would actually rule out transgender men once they've taken what weutt— men once they've taken what would essentially be seen as eerertnence— would essentially be seen as performance enhancing drugs. but ectuetty— performance enhancing drugs. but ectuetty e— performance enhancing drugs. but ectuetty e een— performance enhancing drugs. but ectuetty e gen et— performance enhancing drugs. but actually a part of their their nerrnene— actually a part of their their hormone progression and trensttten— hormone progression and trensttten .— hormone progression and transition . but actually, i

transition. but actually, i tntnt— transition. but actually, i tntnt tt— transition. but actually, i tntnt tt ts— transition. but actually, i think it is it's— transition. but actually, i think it is it's about fairness in think it is it's about fairness tn tne— think it is it's about fairness tn tne ent. — think it is it's about fairness in the end. and— think it is it's about fairness in the end. and i- think it is it's about fairness in the end. and i don't think we ectuetty.— in the end. and i don't think we can actually, even— in the end. and i don't think we can actually, even as a trans nersen— can actually, even as a trans eersen rtgnt— can actually, even as a trans person, fight for— can actually, even as a trans person, fight for our kind of tens— person, fight for our kind of trans inclusion. _ person, fight for our kind of trans inclusion. no questions estet— trans inclusion. no questions estet nyee— trans inclusion. no questions asked anymore. i— trans inclusion. no questions asked anymore. i think we have to asked anymore. i think we have te en— asked anymore. i think we have te en tne— asked anymore. i think we have to err on the other— asked anymore. i think we have to err on the other side that ectuetty— to err on the other side that actually trans _ to err on the other side that actually trans inclusion in seen— actually trans inclusion in snert .— actually trans inclusion in seert . yeue— actually trans inclusion in sport , you're going to have to sport, you're going to have to rusttty— sport, you're going to have to rusttty tt— sport, you're going to have to justify it completely from the teteutt— justify it completely from the teteutt et— justify it completely from the default of not— justify it completely from the default of not being included. ween.— default of not being included. ween. t— default of not being included. ween. t etse— default of not being included. yeah, i also think it's one of tne— yeah, i also think it's one of the sacrifice _ yeah, i also think it's one of the sacrifice choices you make wnen— the sacrifice choices you make wnen yeue— the sacrifice choices you make when you're trans. _ the sacrifice choices you make when you're trans. well, that's very— when you're trans. well, that's very interesting. _ when you're trans. well, that's very interesting. when you're trans. well, that's very ting. “< when you're trans. well, that's very ti“ “ that people who transition should take the good with the bad. fundamentally, you've made the decision to change your genden the decision to change your gender. you've made the decision to transition and there will be unforeseen some things that you won't be allowed to do. is that is that fair to say? because there are a lot of trans activists who are furious about this, about being kept out of female sports? well i do think and i mean, i've been out as a trans person 17 years and going back 20 odd years listening to older trans people, i think there was a greater acceptance that there was sacrifice . i

that there was a sacrifice. i think the more recent srittti �*" titi i think the more recent trans cenretgns— think the more recent trans campaigns have been far more nnt— campaigns have been far more ttntleguettty— campaigns have been far more kind equality driven. and in kind of equality driven. and in tect— kind of equality driven. and in tect. tnts— kind of equality driven. and in fact, this kind— kind of equality driven. and in fact, this kind of— kind of equality driven. and in fact, this kind of equality that is fact, this kind of equality that tsletsetute— fact, this kind of equality that is absolute equality. trans is an absolute equality. trans women women , no questions women are women, no questions estet— women are women, no questions estet. t— women are women, no questions estet. t tntnt— women are women, no questions asked. i think that's silly teceuse— asked. i think that's silly because at— asked. i think that's silly because at the end of the day, trens— because at the end of the day, trans women are _ because at the end of the day, trans women are born male and the trans women are born male and tne-wey— trans women are born male and the .waylactually- the only way to actually transition _ the only way to actually transition is— the only way to actually transition is acknowledge transition is to acknowledge tnet— transition is to acknowledge tnet-ttrtn— transition is to acknowledge that-birth as- transition is to acknowledge that birth as well. so that initial birth as well. so as that initial birth as well. so es ter— that initial birth as well. so es ter es— that initial birth as well. so es ter es tn— that initial birth as well. so as far as i'm concerned, it's tte— as far as i'm concerned, it's llkelwe're_ as far as i'm concerned, it's likelwe're-maths. as far as i'm concerned, it's- likelwe're-maths around like if we're doing maths around it,-approximation- like if we're doing maths around it, approximation rather it, it's an approximation rather tnen— it, it's an approximation rather tnenlttrect— it, it's an approximation rather than direct equality and than a direct equality and tneretere— than a direct equality and therefore questions have to be estet— therefore questions have to be estet ent— therefore questions have to be estet ent yes.— therefore questions have to be asked and yes, trans activists ere-tn— asked and yes, trans activists ereltn errns— asked and yes, trans activists are-in arms over- asked and yes, trans activists are in arms over it, not are up in arms over it, not not tne— are up in arms over it, not not tne reest— are up in arms over it, not not tne teest .— are up in arms over it, not not the least . emily— are up in arms over it, not not the least . emily bridges and the least. emily bridges and ectuetty— the least. emily bridges and ectuetty tne — the least. emily bridges and actually the language she has uset— actually the language she has uset-ner— actually the language she has used-her anger- actually the language she has used her anger at this to used around her anger at this to me ts— used around her anger at this to me is offensive— used around her anger at this to me is offensive .— used around her anger at this to me is offensive . kyiv it's me is offensive. kyiv it's ectuetty— me is offensive. kyiv it's actually she's- me is offensive. kyiv it's actually she's used the tenguege— actually she's used the language. um, you know, of, of genectte— language. um, you know, of, of genectte .— language. um, you know, of, of genectte . tne— language. um, you know, of, of genocide , the language of it genocide, the language of it tetng— genocide, the language of it tetng e— genocide, the language of it being a violent— genocide, the language of it being a violent act of this is new— being a violent act of this is new tt— being a violent act of this is how it starts— being a violent act of this is how it starts .— being a violent act of this is how it starts . this is. it's how it starts. this is. it's utterty— how it starts. this is. it's utterly crazy— how it starts. this is. it's utterly crazy to - how it starts. this is. it's utterly crazy to use that tenguege. — utterly crazy to use that language. it's- utterly crazy to use that language. it's offensive to etners— language. it's offensive to others banning— language. it's offensive to others banning a transgender nersen— others banning a transgender eesen tren — others banning a transgender person from sport is not the tntng— person from sport is not the same thing as— person from sport is not the same thing as putting someone on a same thing as putting someone on e cerrtege— same thing as putting someone on e cerrtege te— same thing as putting someone on a carriage to auschwitz. �*lftlticc

a carriage to auschwitz. well, it's a carriage to auschwitz. well, in wery— a carriage to auschwitz. well, it's very interesting because i do suspect that katie, you might you might be seen as betraying the cause, betraying the cause by some people, which is a shame. but i hope that common sense will will through to sense will will go through to others thank you very much others. thank you very much indeed joining katie. indeed forjoining me, katie. john wendt, are watching and john wendt, you are watching and listening sunday with listening to gb news sunday with me, in me, emily carver. coming up in the next hour, the very latest on the explosion of holly and phil and the shocking revelations scott field's revelations about scott field's relationship with a production assistant. also we're going to have more on suella braverman bill that if successful , could bill that if successful, could see up to 3000 asylum seekers being deported per month. can the government pull it off or is it just more empty words and there's been more trouble north of the border as i uncover the latest on humza yousaf and the snp's stealth tax on overnight stays on camper vans, on holidays, on every accommodation you will be taxed . all of that you will be taxed. all of that after this .

good afternoon. welcome to gb news sunday. i'm emily carver. for the next hour, i will be keeping you company on tv, onune keeping you company on tv, online and digital radio. so coming up this hour, it has been revealed that the secret lover of phillip schofield was just 15 years old when they met and now an industry insider has suggested that this morning could be axed altogether. then who do you trust on immigration or do you trust labour? they're talking tough . the shadow home talking tough. the shadow home secretary insists that the labour party will properly control and manage immigration and that bring in new and that they'll bring in new kerbs visas for foreign kerbs on visas for foreign workers. do you believe it? and the home office is launching an ad campaign aimed at deterring albanian nationals from making channel crossings will it work

or is negotiating with people traffickers a bit of a lost cause? but first, before all of that, let's get the news headunes that, let's get the news headlines with tatiana . emily, headlines with tatiana. emily, thank you very much.- : emily, thank you very much. this is the retest— thank you very much. this is the tetest tren — thank you very much. this is the latest from the _ thank you very much. this is the latest from the newsroom. we sten— latest from the newsroom. we sten wttn— latest from the newsroom. we start with some— latest from the newsroom. we start with some breaking news. a ten— start with some breaking news. a teur yeer— start with some breaking news. a teur yeer ett— start with some breaking news. a four year old girl— start with some breaking news. a four year old girl has died tettewtng— four year old girl has died tettewtng e— four year old girl has died following a house fire in pembrokeshire . despite the pembrokeshire. despite the ettens— pembrokeshire. despite the ettens et— pembrokeshire. despite the efforts of emergency services. attcte— efforts of emergency services. alicia salisbury— efforts of emergency services. alicia salisbury passed away at the alicia salisbury passed away at tne scene— alicia salisbury passed away at tne et— alicia salisbury passed away at the scene of the— alicia salisbury passed away at the scene of the blaze in the renty— the scene of the blaze in the ponty glacier— the scene of the blaze in the ponty glacier area last night. ner— ponty glacier area last night. he tentty— ponty glacier area last night. he tentty .— ponty glacier area last night. her family , who— ponty glacier area last night. her family , who described her as her family, who described her as a her family, who described her as e teeutttut— her family, who described her as a beautiful daughter and sister, are a beautiful daughter and sister, tetng— a beautiful daughter and sister, are being supported by specialist— are being supported by specialist officers. the force seys— specialist officers. the force seys tts— specialist officers. the force says it's working— specialist officers. the force says it's working to establish the says it's working to establish tne ceuse— says it's working to establish tne .— says it's working to establish the cause . itv— says it's working to establish the cause . itv sources have told the cause. itv sources have told gb the cause. itv sources have told en wews— the cause. itv sources have told gb news bosses— the cause. itv sources have told gb news bosses have just seven teys— gb news bosses have just seven teys te— gb news bosses have just seven teys te see— gb news bosses have just seven days to save this— gb news bosses have just seven days to save this morning tettewtng— days to save this morning following the— days to save this morning following the phillip schofield ettetr. — following the phillip schofield ettetr. stert— following the phillip schofield affair. staff members who raised concerns about— affair. staff members who raised concerns about the _ affair. staff members who raised concerns about the tv presenter's— concerns about the tv presenter's actions say executwe— presenter's actions say executive batus need to prove

tney-re— executive batus need to prove tney-re ereeerty— executive batus need to prove they're properly addressing the rssue— they're properly addressing the ent— they're properly addressing the issue and they'll— they're properly addressing the issue and they'll need to win tect— issue and they'll need to win tect tne — issue and they'll need to win back the trust— issue and they'll need to win back the trust of— issue and they'll need to win back the trust of viewers. the treetcester— back the trust of viewers. the broadcaster has— back the trust of viewers. the broadcaster has confirmed the snew— broadcaster has confirmed the snew wtt— broadcaster has confirmed the show will air— broadcaster has confirmed the show will air tomorrow , adding show will air tomorrow, adding it's show will air tomorrow, adding tt-s net— show will air tomorrow, adding tt-s net unter— show will air tomorrow, adding it's not under review and there are it's not under review and there ne etens— it's not under review and there ne etens ter— it's not under review and there are no plans for it— it's not under review and there are no plans for it to be axed. vtewer— are no plans for it to be axed. viewer opinions— are no plans for it to be axed. viewer opinions vary about wnet-s— viewer opinions vary about what's happened. it's not really for what's happened. it's not really ter us— what's happened. it's not really ter us te— what's happened. it's not really ter us te rutge— what's happened. it's not really for us to judge someone. “ for us to judge someone. i mean, wnet— for us to judge someone. i mean, wnet ne— for us to judge someone. i mean, wnet te ttt— for us to judge someone. i mean, what he did and what if it's true that this young chap is 18? there's nothing to do with that. i think he should speak to his family. i will say i think he should speak to his family . i will say that i think he should speak to his family. i will say that i think eernens— family. i will say that i think eernees tne— family. i will say that i think perhaps the show— gr i will say that i think perhaps the show needs fresh reente— perhaps the show needs fresh eeeete — perhaps the show needs fresh eeeete t— perhaps the show needs fresh people on. i think that the show reetty— people on. i think that the show reetty ettet— people on. i think that the show really relied on— people on. i think that the show really relied on the chemistry tnet— really relied on the chemistry tnet netty— really relied on the chemistry that holly and— really relied on the chemistry that holly and phil had for me. tees— that holly and phil had for me. tess .— that holly and phil had for me. tess . tn— that holly and phil had for me. tess . t-n less— that holly and phil had for me. less . i'm less keen— that holly and phil had for me. less . i'm less keen to- that holly and phil had for me. less. i'm less keen to watching the programmes with them as they split. am i right? and i think the split. am i right? and i think tne netty— split. am i right? and i think tne netty ts— split. am i right? and i think the holly is going— c am i right? and i think the holly is going to get the career even bigger now. you knew.— career even bigger now. you knew. t— career even bigger now. you knew. t tte— career even bigger now. you knew. t ttte t— career even bigger now. you know, i like i like phil and nettw— know, i like i like phil and netty. se— know, i like i like phil and new se tn— know, i like i like phil and holly, so i'm very sad to see tnen— holly, so i'm very sad to see tnen ge— holly, so i'm very sad to see them go because— holly, so i'm very sad to see them go because i loved i loved tnen— them go because i loved i loved tnen tetn. — them go because i loved i loved them both. so— them go because i loved i loved them both. so it's— them go because i loved i loved them both. so it's a- them go because i loved i loved them both. so it's a pity really. and i was shocked to hear about phil because i didn't

think he'd do anything like that , be so deceitful . it's says new , be so deceitful. it's says new details emerged about phillip schofield relationship with the youngitv schofield relationship with the young itv employee who was reportedly 15 years old when they first met the mail on sunday, says the tv presenter arranged an interview for him, which resulted in a job as a runner when he turned 18. the affair started later. editor- 3 the affair started later. editor of tne— affair started later. editor of tne nett— affair started later. editor of tne taett en— affair started later. editor of the mail on sunday, charlotte euntn— the mail on sunday, charlotte crtttttn. seys— the mail on sunday, charlotte griffith, says they were right to griffith, says they were right te guestten — griffith, says they were right to question the— griffith, says they were right to question the relationship up. it's to question the relationship up. we se— to question the relationship up. it's so unprecedented— to question the relationship up. it's so unprecedented and- to question the relationship up. it's so unprecedented and he wrote to katie hind and said , i wrote to katie hind and said, i don't expect any mercy, which is extraordinary . and it's because extraordinary. and it's because actually katie had been very brave and done a story a couple of weeks ago that sort of went quite far to hint at this friendship. and he sent a complaint to the to ipso and said, you know , the mail has, said, you know, the mail has, you know , got this, got this you know, got this, got this wrong. and, of course, we hadn't. and so he was he was right to apologise. but it's not very often in showbiz that people do do a full mea culpa

like that and say, don't show me any mercy . the government is any mercy. the government is teuncntng— any mercy. the government is teuncntng en— any mercy. the government is launching an ad— “7�*liil”lf.gt the government is launching an ad campaign to stop reente— launching an ad campaign to stop eeeete tren— launching an ad campaign to stop people from crossing the cnennet.— people from crossing the channel. the— people from crossing the channel. the advert is set to be ctrcutetet— channel. the advert is set to be ctrcutetet tn— channel. the advert is set to be circulated in albania next week, wtt— circulated in albania next week, wttt wern— circulated in albania next week, will warn people— circulated in albania next week, will warn people they face being tetetnet— will warn people they face being tetetnet ent— will warn people they face being detained and removed if they mete— detained and removed if they nete tne— detained and removed if they make the journey. critics have etreety— make the journey. critics have already branded _ make the journey. critics have already branded it as pointless . seytng— already branded it as pointless . seytng tt— already branded it as pointless . seytng tt wen-t— already branded it as pointless , saying it won't deter them. a ecert— , saying it won't deter them. a record number— , saying it won't deter them. a record number of— , saying it won't deter them. a record number of people made the cresstng— record number of people made the cresstng tn— record number of people made the crossing in small— record number of people made the crossing in small boats last yeer.— crossing in small boats last yeer. ent— crossing in small boats last year, and more— crossing in small boats last year, and more than 6000 have teen— year, and more than 6000 have been intercepted— year, and more than 6000 have been intercepted so far this yeer— been intercepted so far this yeer .— been intercepted so far this year . meanwhile, labour says it year. meanwhile, labour says it weutt— year. meanwhile, labour says it weutt tnnese— year. meanwhile, labour says it would impose time limits on ntrtng— would impose time limits on hiring overseas— would impose time limits on hiring overseas workers in a bid to hiring overseas workers in a bid te tert— hiring overseas workers in a bid to kerb migration— hiring overseas workers in a bid to kerb migration in the shadow nene— to kerb migration in the shadow nene secretery— to kerb migration in the shadow home secretary yvette cooper has tett— home secretary yvette cooper has tett tne— home secretary yvette cooper has tett tne suntey— home secretary yvette cooper has told the sunday telegraph it weutt— told the sunday telegraph it weutt sene— told the sunday telegraph it would serve as— told the sunday telegraph it would serve as an incentive to ten— would serve as an incentive to tretn nrtttsn— would serve as an incentive to train british workers. she also suggestet— train british workers. she also suggestet tne— train british workers. she also suggested the party would ask the suggested the party would ask tne ntgretten— suggested the party would ask the migration advisory committee for the migration advisory committee ter eeereenete— the migration advisory committee for appropriate timescales for tneentng— for appropriate timescales for importing labour. a former tetence— importing labour. a former defence secretary, lord john nutten.— defence secretary, lord john nutten. seys— defence secretary, lord john hutton, says it's— defence secretary, lord john hutton, says it's a balancing ect— hutton, says it's a balancing ect ent— hutton, says it's a balancing ect ent tne— hutton, says it's a balancing act and the economy also needs to act and the economy also needs te te— act and the economy also needs to be considered.— act and the economy also needs to be considered. there's no eesy— to be considered. there's no easy solution— to be considered. there's no easy solution to— to be considered. there's no easy solution to this problem, it's easy solution to this problem, tt-s e— easy solution to this problem, tt-s e gtetet— easy solution to this problem, it's a global phenomenon . it's a global phenomenon. reente— it's a global phenomenon. reerte er— it's a global phenomenon. people are moving-

it's a global phenomenon. people are moving around and i think we've got to certainly deal with the boats, the illegal entry, but i think we've got to take a very long, hard look at the other aspects of immigration policy. david davis referred to families of students coming in and so on. i mean, i think there are things that can be done, but it's be done in a way it's got to be done in a way that doesn't the economy that doesn't damage the economy and growth and supports the growth agenda. i these important i think these are important issues because issues for us now because i think securing economic growth is probably the biggest economic challenge that we face. supermarkets could be asked challenge that we face. - supermarkets could be asked to tntretuce— supermarkets could be asked to tntretuce e— supermarkets could be asked to introduce a price— supermarkets could be asked to introduce a price cap on basic teet— introduce a price cap on basic teet te— introduce a price cap on basic teet te netn— introduce a price cap on basic food to help struggling households.— food to help struggling households. the government is repenetty— households. the government is reportedly drawing up plans, suggests— reportedly drawing up plans, suggests tne— reportedly drawing up plans, suggests the move. but a treesury— suggests the move. but a treasury source- suggests the move. but a treasury source told the sunday tetegreen— treasury source told the sunday tetegreen tt— treasury source told the sunday telegraph it would be voluntary arnte— telegraph it would be voluntary arnte tne— telegraph it would be voluntary arnie the scheme— telegraph it would be voluntary arnie the scheme would see retetters— arnie the scheme would see retailers charging the lowest nessttte — retailers charging the lowest possible amount for products tte— possible amount for products arte-ent— possible amount for products like-and milk.- possible amount for products like and milk. food like bread and milk. food inces— like bread and milk. food prices, which— like bread and milk. food prices, which are expected to teen— prices, which are expected to keep rtstng— prices, which are expected to keep rising, have— prices, which are expected to keep rising, have increased by tette— keep rising, have increased by rare. tn— keep rising, have increased by rare. tn tne— keep rising, have increased by 19.1% in the year— keep rising, have increased by 19.1% in the year to march . to 19.1% in the year to march. to rust— 19.1% in the year to march. to rust stee— 19.1% in the year to march. to rust step ett— 19.1% in the year to march. to just stop oil protesters have teen— just stop oil protesters have been cnerget— just stop oil protesters have been charged after disrupting the gallagher— been charged after disrupting

the gallagher premiership rugby tnet— the gallagher premiership rugby ttnet et— the gallagher premiership rugby final at twickenham . 37 year old final at twickenham. 37 year old tecter— final at twickenham. 37 year old doctor patrick— final at twickenham. 37 year old doctor patrick harte from ertstet— doctor patrick harte from bristol and— doctor patrick harte from bristol and 40- doctor patrick harte from bristol and 40 year old sam rennsen— bristol and 40 year old sam johnson from _ bristol and 40 year old sam johnson from essex ran onto the ettcn— johnson from essex ran onto the nttcn ent— johnson from essex ran onto the pitch and threw— johnson from essex ran onto the pitch and threw orange powder ente— pitch and threw orange powder ente tne— pitch and threw orange powder onto the field. _ pitch and threw orange powder onto the field. play was suspentet— onto the field. play was suspended as- onto the field. play was suspended as the men were escenet— suspended as the men were escertet tren — suspended as the men were escorted from the stadium . escorted from the stadium. tney-we— escorted from the stadium. tney-we teen— escorted from the stadium. they've been charged with eggrewetet— they've been charged with aggravated trespass . and mars aggravated trespass. and mars ters— aggravated trespass. and mars ters ee— aggravated trespass. and mars ters getng— aggravated trespass. and mars bars are going green , with the bars are going green, with the ceneeny— bars are going green, with the company upgrading its packaging to company upgrading its packaging te te— company upgrading its packaging te te nere— company upgrading its packaging to be more environmentally trtentty— to be more environmentally trtentty .— to be more environmentally trtentty . a— to be more environmentally friendly . a pilot scheme will friendly. a pilot scheme will tne— friendly. a pilot scheme will see the wrapper— friendly. a pilot scheme will see the wrapper being switched tren — see the wrapper being switched tren etesttc— see the wrapper being switched from plastic to— see the wrapper being switched from plastic to paper. the teneerery— from plastic to paper. the temporary change being introduced— temporary change being introduced as- temporary change being introduced as the company exeteres— introduced as the company explores different packaging ettens— explores different packaging enttens .— explores different packaging options . this— explores different packaging options . this is— explores different packaging options . this is gb explores different packaging options. this is gb news. we'll tung— options. this is gb news. we'll tnng yeu— options. this is gb news. we'll tnng yeu nere— options. this is gb news. we'll bring you more news as it neeeens.— bring you more news as it neeeens. wew— bring you more news as it happens. now it's back to .

happens. now it's back to. emily | ttgtt. — happens. now it's back to. emily l ttgtt. se— happens. now it's back to. emily l ttgtt. se t— happens. now it's back to. emily - right. so i haven't- right. so i haven't forgotten the story of the the big showbiz story of the day. of course, phil schofield it has been revealed that the secret lover , his secret lover secret lover, his secret lover was just 15 years old when they met at a theatre school where the former presenter was the former itv presenter was giving itv had denied giving a talk. itv had denied they had any evidence of such a relationship between schofield and a in, quote, much younger staff member when it first investigated. then what was a rumour in 2020 and now an industry insider has suggested that this morning could be axed altogether. perhaps they have only a week to sort things out. so let's go to gb news national reporter theo chikomba. thank you very much indeed, theo. lovely day out there. not a great day for phil schofield . great day for phil schofield. yes well, as more revelations reweetet— yes well, as more revelations reweetet .— “cit? well, as more revelations are revealed , could the show be are revealed, could the show be on are revealed, could the show be en tts— are revealed, could the show be en tts test— are revealed, could the show be on its last legs— are revealed, could the show be on its last legs or— are revealed, could the show be on its last legs or should it cnenge— on its last legs or should it cnenge tne— on its last legs or should it change the way— on its last legs or should it change the way it's set up? tnese— change the way it's set up? tnese ee— change the way it's set up? these are some— change the way it's set up? these are some of the questions neny— these are some of the questions neny reente— these are some of the questions neny eeeete ee— these are some of the questions many people are asking. but tetey— many people are asking. but tetey. tntustry— many people are asking. but today, industry insiders have tett— today, industry insiders have tett cn— today, industry insiders have told gb news— today, industry insiders have

told gb news this in a statement tnere-s— told gb news this in a statement tnere-s ne— told gb news this in a statement there's no doubt— told gb news this in a statement there's no doubt of— told gb news this in a statement there's no doubt of the future of there's no doubt of the future et tnts— there's no doubt of the future of this morning— there's no doubt of the future of this morning is— there's no doubt of the future of this morning is up in the g.— of this morning is up in the tut— of this morning is up in the tut tts— of this morning is up in the air, but it's not— of this morning is up in the air, but it's not dead yet. the eregrenne— air, but it's not dead yet. the programme remains one of the tewets— programme remains one of the tewets tn— programme remains one of the rewets tn tne— programme remains one of the jewels in the crown for itv, so screeetng— jewels in the crown for itv, so screeetng tt— jewels in the crown for itv, so screeetng tt ts— jewels in the crown for itv, so scrapping it is the— jewels in the crown for itv, so scrapping it is the last thing tney-tt— scrapping it is the last thing tney-tt went— scrapping it is the last thing they'll want to— scrapping it is the last thing they'll want to do. but they went— they'll want to do. but they went en — they'll want to do. but they went en te — they'll want to do. but they went on to say— they'll want to do. but they went on to say this that the next— went on to say this that the next seven days— went on to say this that the next seven days are crucial. txecuttwes— next seven days are crucial. executives need— next seven days are crucial. executives need to prove that tney— executives need to prove that tney ee— executives need to prove that they are addressing the issues tnet— they are addressing the issues tnet newe— they are addressing the issues that have emerged following tntng-s— that have emerged following philip's revelations. now we knew— philip's revelations. now we knew tn— philip's revelations. now we know in that— philip's revelations. now we know in that letter he addressed to know in that letter he addressed te reente— know in that letter he addressed to people through— know in that letter he addressed to people through the daily mail that to people through the daily mail tnet ne— to people through the daily mail that he apologised to his tentty— that he apologised to his family, colleagues and more . and family, colleagues and more. and tne— family, colleagues and more. and tne test— family, colleagues and more. and over the last few— family, colleagues and more. and over the last few days, people newe— over the last few days, people newe teen— over the last few days, people have been asking, what's next? we-we— have been asking, what's next? we-we teen— have been asking, what's next? we've been speaking to people in this we've been speaking to people in tnts eree— we've been speaking to people in tnts te— we've been speaking to people in this area to find— we've been speaking to people in this area to find out— we've been speaking to people in this area to find out what they tttnt— this area to find out what they think, particularly as this eregrenne— think, particularly as this programme has been on air and nes— programme has been on air and nes teen— programme has been on air and nes teen e— programme has been on air and has been a staple— programme has been on air and has been a staple for itv for neny— has been a staple for itv for neny-tte- has been a staple for itv for many-the end- has been a staple for itv for many-the end of. has been a staple for itv fori many-the end of the has been a staple for itv for- many-the end of the day, many years. the end of the day, i he should really talk to i think he should really talk to his wife and family first. and because he what he did- “ ”ti wit“t: gt �*" and because he what he did to them, i because he what he did to them, t tntnt— because he what he did to them, t tntnt ts— because he what he did to them, i think is more— because he what he did to them, i think is more more intrusive tnen— i think is more more intrusive tnen tnen— i think is more more intrusive than than what— i think is more more intrusive than than what he's done to nettw— than than what he's done to holly, because— than than what he's done to holly, because she's saying he tet— holly, because she's saying he ttet. tut— holly, because she's saying he lied, but technically he lied to his lied, but technically he lied to nts wte— lied, but technically he lied to nts wtte ent—

lied, but technically he lied to his wife and children, not to net. — his wife and children, not to net. t— his wife and children, not to net. t tte— his wife and children, not to her. i like i— his wife and children, not to her. i like i like- his wife and children, not to her. i like i like phil- his wife and children, not to her. c c c wit“t: her. i like i like phil and holly. so i'm very sad to see them go because i love i loved them go because i love i loved them both. so it's a pity, really. do you think the show should be revamped or just should be revamped orjust something else? not really. not reetty— something else? not really. not reetty . — something else? not really. not reetty. t— something else? not really. not really . i should carry on as it really. i should carry on as it is. ithink really. i should carry on as it is. i think perhaps- really. i should carry on as it is. i think perhaps the- really. : tiritiit c i think perhaps the show is. i think perhaps the show neets— is. i think perhaps the show neets e— is. i think perhaps the show needs a fresh— i think perhaps the show needs a fresh people on. i think tnet— needs a fresh people on. i think tnet tne— needs a fresh people on. i think that the show— needs a fresh people on. i think that the show really relied on the that the show really relied on tne cnentstry— that the show really relied on the chemistry that holly and tntt— the chemistry that holly and nnt net.— the chemistry that holly and phil had, and— the chemistry that holly and phil had, and that was a magical cnentstry— phil had, and that was a magical cnentstry tnet— phil had, and that was a magical chemistry that they had, which reetty— chemistry that they had, which reetty mete— chemistry that they had, which really made the— chemistry that they had, which really made the show work like . really made the show work like. wett— really made the show work like. wett. en— really made the show work like. wett. en ttw— really made the show work like. well, an itv spokesperson said the well, an itv spokesperson said tne snew— well, an itv spokesperson said the show tomorrow will be returntng — the show tomorrow will be returntng es— the show tomorrow will be returning as normal. '“t: the show tomorrow will be returning as normal. ' “r: returning as normal. and we expect— returning as normal. and we expect te— returning as normal. and we expect to hear— returning as normal. and we expect to hear further information this week about what's going to happen, particularly who's going to host to next holly. she's currently away at the moment on a half term break and will be returning shortly after that. over the last few days, we've seen alison hammond and dermot o'leary taking the reins on this

morning. it's hugely popular, however, since all of these revelations started to come out. the show lost around 100,000 of its viewership. but again, it's one of those programmes which is highly popular. and of course people will be looking forward to see what happens next in the next few days . our national next few days. our national repener— next few days. our national reporter there— “tixc : our national reporter there bringing us up to speet— reporter there bringing us up to speet en— reporter there bringing us up to speed on everything. phil scnettett.— speed on everything. phil schofield. this morning and itv. all schofield. this morning and itv. at t— schofield. this morning and itv. at t cen— schofield. this morning and itv. at t sey— schofield. this morning and itv. at t sey ts— schofield. this morning and itv. all i can say is that they must be absolutely— all i can say is that they must be absolutely bricking it at ttw— be absolutely bricking it at ttv. tnts— be absolutely bricking it at ttv. tnts ts— be absolutely bricking it at itv. this is the— be absolutely bricking it at itv. this is the worst press you ceutt— itv. this is the worst press you ceutt ewer— itv. this is the worst press you could ever possibly have as a broadcaster. _ could ever possibly have as a broadcaster. it— could ever possibly have as a broadcaster. it would seem. and i broadcaster. it would seem. and t te— broadcaster. it would seem. and t te wente— broadcaster. it would seem. and i do wonder who _ broadcaster. it would seem. and i do wonder who has been lied to ent— i do wonder who has been lied to ent wne— i do wonder who has been lied to ent wne nes— i do wonder who has been lied to and who has lied— i do wonder who has been lied to and who has lied in— i do wonder who has been lied to and who has lied in this whole tntng. — and who has lied in this whole tntng. we— and who has lied in this whole tntng. we wtt— and who has lied in this whole thing. we will find out, i'm tnts— thing. we will find out, i'm sure this story— thing. we will find out, i'm sure this story will continue to runtte— sure this story will continue to runtte — sure this story will continue to rumble on. and— sure this story will continue to rumble on. and of— sure this story will continue to rumble on. and of course, we newe— rumble on. and of course, we newe e— rumble on. and of course, we newe e cn— rumble on. and of course, we have a gb news— rumble on. and of course, we have a gb news exclusive on our wetstte— have a gb news exclusive on our wetstte ent— have a gb news exclusive on our website and inside— have a gb news exclusive on our website and inside has told us itv website and inside has told us ttv newe— website and inside has told us ttv newe enty— website and inside has told us itv have only seven days to save the itv have only seven days to save tne pregrenne— itv have only seven days to save the programme to— itv have only seven days to save the programme to save. this nerntng— the programme to save. this nerntng yeu— the programme to save. this morning you can— the programme to save. this morning you can head to gb news cn— morning you can head to gb news en wews— morning you can head to gb news .com gb news .com_ morning you can head to gb news .com gb news .com where you'll tnt— .com gb news .com where you'll ttnt tne— .com gb news .com where you'll ttnt tne test— .com gb news .com where you'll find the best analysis and eptnten— find the best analysis and eptnten es— find the best analysis and opinion as well as the latest

teettng— opinion as well as the latest breaking news.— opinion as well as the latest breaking news. so don't be shy. neet— breaking news. so don't be shy. neet te— breaking news. so don't be shy. neet te tnet— breaking news. so don't be shy. head to that website gb news ettet— head to that website gb news .com after this— head to that website gb news .com after this show. of course . se— .com after this show. of course . se newtng— .com after this show. of course . se newtng en— .com after this show. of course . so moving on. shadow home secretery— . so moving on. shadow home secretary yvette _ . so moving on. shadow home secretary yvette cooper has retset — secretary yvette cooper has raised eyebrows— secretary yvette cooper has raised eyebrows today. she's ctetnet— raised eyebrows today. she's claimed that— raised eyebrows today. she's claimed that labour would kerb tnntgretten— claimed that labour would kerb tnntgretten ty— claimed that labour would kerb immigration by putting time ttntts— immigration by putting time ttntts en— immigration by putting time limits on how— immigration by putting time limits on how long companies are ette— limits on how long companies are ette te— limits on how long companies are ette te tnpen— limits on how long companies are able to import foreign workers in able to import foreign workers tn snertege— able to import foreign workers in shortage occupied asian eccupettens— in shortage occupied asian occupations .— in shortage occupied asian occupations . downing street has occupations. downing street has etse— occupations. downing street has etse retuset— occupations. downing street has also refused calls— occupations. downing street has also refused calls for rishi sunet— also refused calls for rishi sunet te— also refused calls for rishi sunak to apologise, despite tetttng— sunak to apologise, despite tetttng te— sunak to apologise, despite failing to reduce net migration .wntcn— failing to reduce net migration .wntcn et— failing to reduce net migration , which of course— failing to reduce net migration , which of course has now risen to , which of course has now risen te ecert— , which of course has now risen to record levels— , which of course has now risen to record levels on— , which of course has now risen to record levels on a data shows nusrnert— to record levels on a data shows nusrnert te— to record levels on a data shows numbers rose to 606,000 last yeah— numbers rose to 606,000 last year, even after— numbers rose to 606,000 last year, even after repeated gewernnent— year, even after repeated government pledges to bring ewerett— government pledges to bring overall numbers— government pledges to bring overall numbers down. we've neert— overall numbers down. we've neert tt— overall numbers down. we've neert tt ett— overall numbers down. we've heard it all after— overall numbers down. we've heard it all after the figures were released.— heard it all after the figures were released. here's what tnntgretten— were released. here's what immigration minister robert rennct— immigration minister robert renrtct sett— immigration minister robert jenrick said about tackling the wett— jenrick said about tackling the issue. well, net— jenrick said about tackling the issue. well, net migration is far issue. well, net migration is ter tee— issue. well, net migration is ter tee ntgn. — issue. well, net migration is far too high. this- issue. well, net migration is far too high. “ itcwitti “tg far too high. this is placing intolerable pressure on public services, on housing supply and our ability to integrate people into our country. the conservative party has made a promise to reduce net migration

and we're absolutely determined to do that . well, we've made to do that. well, we've made a very significant intervention this week, which will make a tangible difference reducing the number of student dependents that come to our universities because universities should be in the education business, not the immigration business. all right. joining me now is- right. joining me now is international— right. joining me now is international human rights tewyer— international human rights lawyer david. _ international human rights lawyer david. hey and international- lawyer david. hey and international security and better— international security and border control— international security and border control expert henry ectten— border control expert henry bolton here— border control expert henry bolton here with me in the stutte— bolton here with me in the stutte .— bolton here with me in the stutte . se— bolton here with me in the stutte . se t— bolton here with me in the studio . so i think it's quite studio. so i think it's quite tnteresttng— studio. so i think it's quite tnteresttng .— studio. so i think it's quite interesting . and of course, interesting. and of course, tnere-s— interesting. and of course, tnere-s e— interesting. and of course, there's a lot— interesting. and of course, there's a lot of— interesting. and of course, there's a lot of politics going on there's a lot of politics going en tn— there's a lot of politics going en tn tnts— there's a lot of politics going on in this whole— there's a lot of politics going on in this whole discussion. but teteut— on in this whole discussion. but labour presenting— on in this whole discussion. but labour presenting themselves as tetng— labour presenting themselves as tetng teugn— labour presenting themselves as tetng teugn en— labour presenting themselves as being tough on immigration. we all being tough on immigration. we ett knew— being tough on immigration. we ett tnew tnet— being tough on immigration. we all know that immigration levels , mass immigration started under the , mass immigration started under tne eten— , mass immigration started under the blair government, don't we? henry— the blair government, don't we? nenry tee— the blair government, don't we? nenry pe yeu— the blair government, don't we? henry do you think the general nrtttsn— henry do you think the general british public— henry do you think the general british public will trust a word centng— british public will trust a word centng tren — british public will trust a word coming from the— british public will trust a word coming from the shadow home secretery— coming from the shadow home secretery ent— coming from the shadow home secretary and the— coming from the shadow home secretary and the shadow prime tatntster— secretary and the shadow prime tttntster ter— secretary and the shadow prime minister for only— secretary and the shadow prime minister for only those people wne— minister for only those people wne went— minister for only those people who want to? _ minister for only those people who want to? and- minister for only those people who want to? ' “t: “ minister for only those people who want to? “t: who want to? and i mean by that their own supporters already because it's an easy stick to beat the conservative government

with. of course, because you knew.— with. of course, because you know, everybody— with. of course, because you know, everybody is- of course, because you know, everybody is criticising the conservative _ know, everybody is criticising the conservative government . the conservative government. t ney _ the conservative government. tney keep— the conservative government. they keep coming up with prentses— they keep coming up with promises they're going to promises that they're going to doly— promises that they're going to doly ent— promises that they're going to doly and lwith_ promises that they're going to do y and with the borders do x, y and z with the borders ent— do x, y and z with the borders ent wttn— do x, y and z with the borders and with immigration. they keep tetttng— and with immigration. they keep tetttng-te— and with immigration. they keep tetttnglteiant— and with immigration. they keep failing.do.and so- failing to do so. and so it's a very— failing to do so. and so it's a very very— failing to do so. and so it's a very wery eesy— failing to do so. and so it's a very, very easy political win for very, very easy political win ter-teteur— very, very easy political win for-labour party- very, very easy political win for labour party to just for the labour party to just tnrew— for the labour party to just tnrew-eut— for the labour party to just throw-out there. - for the labour party to just throw out there. what i'd throw this out there. what i'd tte— throw this out there. what i'd ttte te— throw this out there. what i'd ttte te see— throw this out there. what i'd like to see is— throw this out there. what i'd like to see is every time that et— like to see is every time that et tnese— like to see is every time that one of these labour frontbenchers or even backbenchers says such a thing , backbenchers says such a thing, etey— backbenchers says such a thing, etey. new— backbenchers says such a thing, etey. new wett— backbenchers says such a thing, etey. new wett .— backbenchers says such a thing, okay, how well , where is the okay, how well, where is the tetette— okay, how well, where is the tetette — okay, how well, where is the tetette wty— okay, how well, where is the detail? why are— okay, how well, where is the detail? bitty wititi tgtit “tg okay, how well, where is the detail? tgtit “tg detail? why are you going to be able to deliver this when the conservative party aren't delivering it? and i think tnere-s— delivering it? and i think tnere-s e— delivering it? and i think there's a lot— delivering it? and i think there's a lot of- delivering it? and i think there's a lot of a- t:ti “g 7 and i think there's a lot of a lot of work to there's a lot of a lot of work te te— there's a lot of a lot of work te te tene— there's a lot of a lot of work to be done on— there's a lot of a lot of work to be done on on— there's a lot of a lot of work to be done on on getting them to up— to be done on on getting them to up wttn— to be done on on getting them to up wttn e— to be done on on getting them to come up with a hell— to be done on on getting them to come up with a hell yes. c come up with a hell yes. it's eesy— come up with a hell yes. it's eesy te— come up with a hell yes. it's eesy te sey— come up with a hell yes. it's easy to say you're— come up with a hell yes. it's easy to say you're going to do something as we saw with david cameron promising to get immigration down to the tens of thousands and then actually doing it. david labour's say they'd immigration by they'd kerb immigration by putting limits on how long putting time limits on how long companies able to import companies are able to import foreign in shortage foreign workers in shortage occupations. what does mean occupations. what does that mean 7 occupations. what does that mean ? well, i think i mean i mean the difficult thing here is that

that isn't the issue. i think in terms of, that isn't the issue. i think in terms et. yeu— that isn't the issue. i think in terms of, you know,- c i think in terms of, you know, they are not the terms of, you know, they are not tne prettens— terms of, you know, they are not the problems when— terms of, you know, they are not the problems when people come nere— the problems when people come nere r...— the problems when people come nere tn. yeu— the problems when people come here in, you know,— the problems when people come here in, you know, for cenpentes - here in, you know, for companies. and one would say tegetty. — companies. and one would say tegetty. se— companies. and one would say tegetty. se t— companies. and one would say legally. so i think— companies. and one would say legally. so i think what you ntgnt— legally. so i think what you ntgnt see— legally. so i think what you ntgnt ts— legally. so i think what you might see is that you've got the testcetty— might see is that you've got the basically you've— might see is that you've got the basically you've got the labor party— basically you've got the labor neny reettstng— basically you've got the labor party realising that the tory pany— party are essentially effectively - party are essentially effectively to party are essentially- effectively -to weaponise effectively trying to weaponise tnntgretten— effectively trying to weaponise immigration and— effectively trying to weaponise immigration and trying to use tnet— immigration and trying to use tnet te— immigration and trying to use tnet te wtn— immigration and trying to use that to win votes. _ immigration and trying to use that to win votes. and obviously tney-re— that to win votes. and obviously tney-re tetng— that to win votes. and obviously tney-re tetng e— that to win votes. and obviously they're doing a very bad job of tnet— they're doing a very bad job of tnet tn— they're doing a very bad job of that in terms— they're doing a very bad job of that in terms of— they're doing a very bad job of that in terms of none of the pettctes— that in terms of none of the pettctes ee— that in terms of none of the policies are actually getting off policies are actually getting ett tne— policies are actually getting off the ground— policies are actually getting off the ground at the moment. so i off the ground at the moment. so ttntnt— off the ground at the moment. so ttntnt tne— off the ground at the moment. so i think the labour— off the ground at the moment. so i think the labour party is teettng— i think the labour party is- teettng—tnetr looking at trying to steal their ttunten— looking at trying to steal their thunder,-were. - looking at trying to steal their thunder, were. but i thunder, as it were. so but i tnnt— thunder, as it were. so but i think attacking— thunder, as it were. so but i think attacking or looking at cerperete— think attacking or looking at corporate immigration, is corporate immigration, which is not corporate immigration, which is net-eree— corporate immigration, which is net-etee wnere— corporate immigration, which is not area where there that not the area where there that neny— not the area where there that many overstayers is perhaps a tetet— many overstayers is perhaps a failed attempt— many overstayers is perhaps a failed attempt . _ many overstayers is perhaps a failed attempt . c t: failed attempt. it's quite interesting, henry, because a lot of the discussion about immigration , ian, has focussed immigration, ian, has focussed on on the impact on the economy . it seems to be that there is a consensus among most of the political elite media elite, whatever you want to say, liberal, metropolitan elite, whatever word that immigration has been an economic success

story, is it more complicated than that ? it's a great deal than that? it's a great deal more complicated.- $3.7 it's a great deal more complicated. emily t/tit more complicated. emily you knew.— more complicated. emily you knew. let-s— more complicated. emily you know, let's look— more complicated. emily you know, let's look at,- more complicated. emily you know, let's look at, for- know, let's look at, for example, the money that goes out of the country into people sending money home. world bank figures sending money home. world bank ttgures ter— sending money home. world bank figures for latest— sending money home. world bank figures for latest ones— sending money home. world bank figures for latest ones for- : “tg world bank figures for latest ones for 2021 st— figures for latest ones for 2021 were 8.7 billion— figures for latest ones for 2021 were 8.7 billion going out now , were 8.7 billion going out now, of course, then— were 8.7 billion going out now, of course, then other people wtt— of course, then other people wttt sey— of course, then other people wttt sey yes— of course, then other people wttt sey yes .— of course, then other people will say yes , but- of course, then other people will say yes , but students bring will say yes, but students bring in will say yes, but students bring tn aa— will say yes, but students bring in 44 billion.— will say yes, but students bring in 44 billion. but— will say yes, but students bring in 44 billion. but what i'm seytng— in 44 billion. but what i'm seytng ts— in 44 billion. but what i'm saying is that— in 44 billion. but what i'm saying is that it's not simple . saying is that it's not simple. st— saying is that it's not simple. st ttttten— saying is that it's not simple. 8.7 billion from _ saying is that it's not simple. 8.7 billion from the 44 billion, but 8.7 billion from the 44 billion, tut etse— 8.7 billion from the 44 billion, tut etse se— 8.7 billion from the 44 billion, but also so they— 8.7 billion from the 44 billion, but also so they talk about tecters— but also so they talk about doctors coming— but also so they talk about doctors coming into the nhs. tnet-s— doctors coming into the nhs. tnet-s tne— doctors coming into the nhs. tnet-s ttne .— doctors coming into the nhs. that's fine . and— doctors coming into the nhs. that's fine . and indeed they that's fine. and indeed they tnntgrent— that's fine. and indeed they immigrant doctors do contribute to immigrant doctors do contribute te tne— immigrant doctors do contribute te tne nus.— immigrant doctors do contribute to the nhs, but— immigrant doctors do contribute to the nhs, but it's not quite tnet— to the nhs, but it's not quite tnet stnpte— to the nhs, but it's not quite that simple because of course wnen— that simple because of course wnen yeue— that simple because of course wnen ye get— that simple because of course when you've got an increase in tne— when you've got an increase in tne peputetten— when you've got an increase in the population of— when you've got an increase in the population of 606,000 net, yeue— the population of 606,000 net, ye get— the population of 606,000 net, ye get te— the population of 606,000 net, you've got to provide more tecters— you've got to provide more doctors anyway,- you've got to provide more doctors anyway, more doctors you do. doctors anyway, more doctors you te. r— doctors anyway, more doctors you te. r neen— doctors anyway, more doctors you te. r tne— doctors anyway, more doctors you do. i mean the net,— doctors anyway, more doctors you do. i mean the net, emily is a ptus— do. i mean the net, emily is a ptus tn— do. i mean the net, emily is a ptus tn terns— do. i mean the net, emily is a plus in terms of— do. i mean the net, emily is a plus in terms of the additional tecters— plus in terms of the additional doctors available,— plus in terms of the additional doctors available, but it's not a straightforward— doctors available, but it's not a straightforward calculation .

a straightforward calculation. ant— a straightforward calculation. ant ptus.— a straightforward calculation. and plus, remember, we're paying the and plus, remember, we're paying tne neney— and plus, remember, we're paying tne neney eut— and plus, remember, we're paying the money out not— and plus, remember, we're paying the money out not only to prewtte— the money out not only to prewtte tne — the money out not only to provide the asylum seekers with tunttng— provide the asylum seekers with tunttng. tut— provide the asylum seekers with funding, but also— provide the asylum seekers with funding, but also all of the infrastructure _ funding, but also all of the infrastructure and so on. all of tne— infrastructure and so on. all of tne peepte— infrastructure and so on. all of tne peepte. ett— infrastructure and so on. all of the people, all of— infrastructure and so on. all of the people, all of the all the tectttttes— the people, all of the all the facilities that— the people, all of the all the facilities that are _ the people, all of the all the facilities that are in place to stnpty— facilities that are in place to stnpty pecess— facilities that are in place to simply process this. all of tnese— simply process this. all of tnese peepte— simply process this. all of these people coming in. now, nest— these people coming in. now, nest et— these people coming in. now, nest et tnet— these people coming in. now, most of that does— these people coming in. now, most of that does sit in the esytun— most of that does sit in the esytun eree— most of that does sit in the esytun .— most of that does sit in the asylum area , but there are it's asylum area, but there are it's net— asylum area, but there are it's net e— asylum area, but there are it's not a straightforward calculation- not a straightforward calculation . it's not simply calculation. it's not simply etect— calculation. it's not simply ttect ent— calculation. it's not simply black and white. no 5 a t: c black and white. no > david, it tees— black and white. no > david, it does seem like we're on a what's the word , a running machine, the word, a running machine, a treadmill that we constantly have to be keeping up with? well demand in our public infrastructure by then , bringing infrastructure by then, bringing more people in from abroad, aid and so on and so forth. and not we're not concentrating on how to make our own country sustainable for the long term . sustainable for the long term. if you were looking at the statistics that we've seen from the past year , where would you the past year, where would you say would be the where could we start cutting the numbers?

because of course, people look at the things and they say, oh, worker visas, well, we need them for these shortages. students good for the economy. we want them our universities them to prop up our universities to hong kong as well. you to au hong kong as well. you know, to protect them. know, we need to protect them. and the economy and they're good for the economy . well, course, . ukrainians. well, of course, we no to the we can't say no to the ukrainians. so where do you actually in practise start cutting the numbers ? i think cutting the numbers? i think what would emily,- cutting the numbers? i think what would emily, i- i cc “g 7 i think what would emily, i think what weutt— what would emily, i think what weutt mete— what would emily, i think what would make sense and something that would make sense and something tnet tne— would make sense and something that the government you know, nesn-t— that the government you know, nesn-t-tntnt— that the government you know, hasn't-think any- hasn't i don't think any government— hasn't i don't think any government has effectively done is government has effectively done ts—nunter- government has effectively done ts—nunter et| is target the largest number of peepte— is target the largest number of peepte teettng— is target the largest number of people breaking immigration people breaking the immigration ruest— people breaking the immigration rules. and those are overstayers. - rules. and those are overstayers. people overstayers. those are people tnet— overstayers. those are people tnet-en— overstayers. those are people that-on student- overstayers. those are people that on student visas and that come on student visas and ewersteys— that come on student visas and ewersteys. net— that come on student visas and overstays, not their families tnet— overstays, not their families tnet cee— overstays, not their families that come they're they're that come while they're they're teget. — that come while they're they're teget. .peepte— that come while they're they're legal. people that and legal. but people that come and ewerstey— legal. but people that come and overstay. .whether- legal. but people that come and overstay. whether it's overstay. and whether it's teurtsts— overstay. and whether it's tourists whether it's student tourists or whether it's student —tnet- tourists or whether it's studentj visa—that presume visa or work visa that presume tnet-s— visa or work visa that presume tnet-s tne— visa or work visa that presume that's the biggest— visa or work visa that presume that's the biggest number. and presunetty— that's the biggest number. and presunetty .— that's the biggest number. and presunetty . tt— that's the biggest number. and presumably , if we had effective presumably, if we had effective terter— presumably, if we had effective border controls _ presumably, if we had effective border controls on _ presumably, if we had effective border controls on entry and extt— border controls on entry and extt .— border controls on entry and extt . ttts— border controls on entry and exit , it's fairly— border controls on entry and exit , it's fairly easy to see exit, it's fairly easy to see wne-s— exit, it's fairly easy to see who's coming— exit, it's fairly easy to see who's coming in, who's going out ent— who's coming in, who's going out ent wne-s— who's coming in, who's going out ent wne-s nere— who's coming in, who's going out and who's here illegally and tnen— and who's here illegally and ten ttnt— and who's here illegally and then find them— and who's here illegally and then find them and then deport tnen — then find them and then deport tnen tn— then find them and then deport tnen tn en— then find them and then deport them in an appropriate manner in eccertence wttn— them in an appropriate manner in accordance with human rights tew. —

accordance with human rights tew. nut— accordance with human rights law. but that's— accordance with human rights law. but that's something that i tretnet— law. but that's something that i tretnet tn— law. but that's something that i trained in immigration law a reng.— trained in immigration law a teng. teng— trained in immigration law a teng. teng. teng— trained in immigration law a long, long, long time ago. it was a problem— long, long, long time ago. it was a problem then . it's still was a problem then. it's still a pretten — was a problem then. it's still a pretten new— was a problem then. it's still a problem now and— was a problem then. it's still a problem now and it's not been ettresset— problem now and it's not been addressed now.— problem now and it's not been addressed now. of— problem now and it's not been addressed now. of course, that's not addressed now. of course, that's net es— addressed now. of course, that's net es yeu— addressed now. of course, that's not as you know,— addressed now. of course, that's not as you know, in— addressed now. of course, that's not as you know, in terms of a pettcy— not as you know, in terms of a pettcy. ant— not as you know, in terms of a policy. and like— not as you know, in terms of a policy. and like i— not as you know, in terms of a policy. and like i said, weaponizing- policy. and like i said, weaponizing immigration and xeneptette— weaponizing immigration and xenophobia. doesn't that xenophobia. that doesn't that teesn-t—renyl xenophobia. that doesn't thati doesn't—party as doesn't help the tory party as nucn— doesn't help the tory party as nucn es— doesn't help the tory party as nucn es peepte— doesn't help the tory party as much as people coming across teets— much as people coming across teets tees— much as people coming across boats does and— much as people coming across boats does and stop the boats cenpetgns— boats does and stop the boats campaigns rattling sabres. campaigns and rattling sabres. but campaigns and rattling sabres. nut tnet-s— campaigns and rattling sabres. nut tnet-s yeu— campaigns and rattling sabres. but that's you go— campaigns and rattling sabres. but that's you go to the biggest nurnert— but that's you go to the biggest number, address— but that's you go to the biggest number, address that first and tnen— number, address that first and ten ee— number, address that first and then move down— number, address that first and then move down and that's senetntng— then move down and that's something that— then move down and that's something that isn't still being ettecttwety—t- something that isn't still beingi effectively—i mean something that isn't still being. effectively—i mean i effectively done. well, i mean i was up boston for our was up in boston for our immigration special when the net migration were were migration figures were were published, boston, lincolnshire . and it was quite clear to talking people that there were overstay players, let's just say, or at least that's what the locals and people in the know could see with their own eyes and knew for a fact. but henry , and knew for a fact. but henry, i was just looking at an article that came up during the week, and this is another thing from the government that shows that perhaps they're not actually as keen they are to keen as they say they are to reduce these numbers. they're

thinking giving teachers thinking about giving teachers from abroad an extra £10,000 to come over here and teach in our education system. if we can't have enough teachers that are british in our education system, i mean, we are in a terrible state. if we have to go to india and elsewhere to get teachers . and elsewhere to get teachers. we're an appalling in an eppetttng— we're an appalling in an appalling state. emily and just if i appalling state. emily and just t t ney— appalling state. emily and just t t ney .— appalling state. emily and just t t ney . rust— appalling state. emily and just if i may , just quickly to if i may, just quickly to ettress— if i may, just quickly to address one— if i may, just quickly to address one thing that's been sett— address one thing that's been sett twtce— address one thing that's been said twice .that- address one thing that's been said twice that the said twice now that the government _ said twice now that the government is weaponizing tnntgretten.— government is weaponizing tnntgretten—e government is weaponizing- immigration._a real immigration. no, there is a real ent— immigration. no, there is a real and-concern out- immigration. no, there is a real and concern out there and genuine concern out there enengst— and genuine concern out there enengst tne— and genuine concern out there amongst the public that immigration— amongst the public that immigration action is out of centret— immigration action is out of centret .— immigration action is out of centret . tt— immigration action is out of control . it is— immigration action is out of control . it is not- immigration action is out of control . it is not being managed control. it is not being managed ettecttwety— control. it is not being managed ettecttwety .— control. it is not being managed effectively . and— control. it is not being managed effectively . and part of that is effectively. and part of that is the effectively. and part of that is tne must— effectively. and part of that is tne nust te— effectively. and part of that is the must be true. _ effectively. and part of that is the must be true. ct?" effectively. and part of that is the must be true. cit“ the must be true. can both be true. netn— the must be true. can both be true. both can— the must be true. can both be true. both can be— the must be true. can both be true. both can be true.- the must be true. cit“ both can be true. but but true. both can be true. but but to true. both can be true. but but te e— true. both can be true. but but te e te— true. both can be true. but but te e te en— true. both can be true. but but to a to an extent— true. both can be true. but but to a to an extent .— both can be true. but but to a to an extent . and different to a to an extent. and different et— to a to an extent. and different et rt.— to a to an extent. and different areas of it. but— to a to an extent. and different areas of it. but people can see ent— areas of it. but people can see ent teet— areas of it. but people can see ent teet tne— areas of it. but people can see and feel the changes in their communities— and feel the changes in their communities and they hear the gewernnent— communities and they hear the government making promises that the government making promises that tne gewernnent— government making promises that the government fails to enact , the government fails to enact, to the government fails to enact, te ect— the government fails to enact, te ect upen— the government fails to enact, te ect upen er— the government fails to enact, to act upon or to— the government fails to enact, to act upon or to deliver on. ant— to act upon or to deliver on. and therefore,— to act upon or to deliver on. and therefore, of— to act upon or to deliver on. and therefore, of course, they teet— and therefore, of course, they teet tnet— and therefore, of course, they feel that it's— and therefore, of course, they feel that it's not— and therefore, of course, they feel that it's not in control. they— feel that it's not in control. tney ee— feel that it's not in control. they are putting political

pressure politician to pressure on any politician to tettwer— pressure on any politician to tettwer en— pressure on any politician to deliver on this. _ pressure on any politician to deliver on this. now, the other tntng.— deliver on this. now, the other tntng. tneugn— deliver on this. now, the other thing, though, on— deliver on this. now, the other thing, though, on the training, wntcn— thing, though, on the training, wntcn ts— thing, though, on the training, which is really— thing, though, on the training, which is really what you alluded to which is really what you alluded te tn— which is really what you alluded te tn terns— which is really what you alluded te tn terns et— which is really what you alluded to in terms of the— which is really what you alluded to in terms of the teachers as wet.— to in terms of the teachers as wet. net— to in terms of the teachers as wet. net rust— to in terms of the teachers as well, not just health care and so well, not just health care and se en ent— well, not just health care and so on and anything else. but we newe— so on and anything else. but we newe tn— so on and anything else. but we newe tn tnts— so on and anything else. but we have in this country a system wntcn— have in this country a system wntcn ts— have in this country a system wntcn ts net— have in this country a system which is not unique, but is cenetnty— which is not unique, but is cenetnty tn— which is not unique, but is certainly in the— which is not unique, but is certainly in the minority gtetetty— certainly in the minority gtetetty tn— certainly in the minority globally in which we require so neny— globally in which we require so neny et— globally in which we require so neny et eu— globally in which we require so many of our nurses, our doctors , many of our nurses, our doctors . teecners— many of our nurses, our doctors , our teachers and— many of our nurses, our doctors , our teachers and so on to fund tnen— , our teachers and so on to fund tnetr ewn— , our teachers and so on to fund their own training.— , our teachers and so on to fund their own training. yeah. hgv trtwers— their own training. yeah. hgv trtwers .— their own training. yeah. hgv drivers , security— their own training. yeah. hgv drivers , security guards, all of drivers, security guards, all of tnese— drivers, security guards, all of tnese peepte— drivers, security guards, all of these people have to fund their tretntng— these people have to fund their own training. well— these people have to fund their own training. well henry, all of tnese— own training. well henry, all of tnese tntngs— own training. well henry, all of these things are— own training. well henry, all of these things are coming home to reest — these things are coming home to reest are— these things are coming home to reest are tney— these things are coming home to roost. ' iti 7 so these things are coming home to roost. 'iti 7 so we've roost. are they now? so we've got— roost. are they now? so we've get wewe— roost. are they now? so we've get get— roost. are they now? so we've get get e— roost. are they now? so we've got we've got a system- roost. 'iti 7 so we've got we've got a system problem tnet-s— got we've got a system problem tnet-s e— got we've got a system problem tnet-s e greet— got we've got a system problem that's a great deal— got we've got a system problem that's a great deal wider than tnntgretten— that's a great deal wider than immigration because if we are getng— immigration because if we are getng te— immigration because if we are getng te te— immigration because if we are going to do that,— immigration because if we are going to do that, then our peepte— going to do that, then our peepte wne— going to do that, then our people who want to go into the nurstng— people who want to go into the nursing profession— nursing profession in this ceuntry— nursing profession in this country disadvantaged nursing profession in this country if disadvantaged nursing profession in this country if theyidvantaged nursing profession in this country if they dotntaged nursing profession in this country if they do payjed nursing profession in this country if they do pay for that because if they do pay for that ent—wttn- because if they do pay for that ent—wttn el and they're lumbered with a stutent— and they're lumbered with a student-then- and they're lumbered with a student-then of- and they're lumbered with a student then of course student loan, then of course tnen— student loan, then of course tnen tne— student loan, then of course then the salaries— student loan, then of course then the salaries are a problem. they— then the salaries are a problem. tney—tncene- then the salaries are a problem.- they_income because then the salaries are a problem.- theylgot-income because then the salaries are a problem. they got to income because then the salaries are a problem. they got to pay income because then the salaries are a problem. they got to pay their me because then the salaries are a problem. they got to pay their student use they've got to pay their student teens— they've got to pay their student teens ent— they've got to pay their student teens ent se— they've got to pay their student loans and so on.— they've got to pay their student loans and so on. whereas people tren— from abroad are paying their tretntng— from abroad are paying their training—their. training is funded by their governments— training is funded by their governments and then they can

come over here qualified to do the come over here qualified to do tne-se— come over here qualified to do tne-se-get- come over here qualified to do tne-se-get e- come over here qualified to do. the-so-got a systemic the job. so we've got a systemic pretten— the job. so we've got a systemic pretten-gees— the job. so we've got a systemic problem goes through problem that goes through our enpteynent— employment, through commerce, tneugn— employment, through commerce, tnreugn—se- through business, through so neny— through business, through so many different— through business, through so many different areas of government. - many different areas of government. we've got to address the government. we've got to address tne wnete— government. we've got to address the whole thing. _ government. we've got to address the whole thing. i— government. we've got to address the whole thing. i think the treasury is so terrified that we may see a drop in gdp if we were to cut immigration levels. and it take while to it might take a little while to sort reset things and start sort of reset things and start training more people for these important cut these important jobs and cut these shortages . because as we know, shortages. because as we know, also we've got the double hole dpp, we've got the double problem a of british problem of a lot of british people, not working as well. sorry. time sorry. that's all we've got time for on david. hey, in for on that. david. hey, in national security. oh, no, sorry. human rights law, international human rights law and is a and henry bolton, who is a security border control security and border control expert there. thank very expert there. thank you very much indeed. let know what much indeed. let me know what you home. you're you think at home. you're watching and listening gb watching and listening to gb news emily news sunday with me, emily carver. got lots more carver. we have got lots more coming show. humza coming up on the show. humza yousaf off and the snp have unveiled a stealth idea unveiled a new stealth tax idea on in scotland. on overnight stays in scotland. i'll bring you the very latest on what that means for holyrood and westminster relationships and westminster relationships and for the in your pocket and westminster relationships

andyou the in your pocket and westminster relationships andyou happen in your pocket and westminster relationships andyou happen tor your pocket and westminster relationships andyou happen to be ur pocket and westminster relationships andyou happen to be wantingt and westminster relationships andyou happen to be wanting to . if you happen to be wanting to stay in scotland overnight . but stay in scotland overnight. but first, take a look at the first, let's take a look at the weather with jonathan owen. hello . i'm jonathan hello there. i'm jonathan veutrey— hello there. i'm jonathan vautrey -with - hello there. i'm jonathan. vautrey -with - latest hello there. i'm jonathan- vautrey -with - latest gb vautrey here with your latest gb wews— vautrey here with your latest gb wews weetner— vautrey here with your latest gb news weather forecast provided by tne — news weather forecast provided tyne-etttce— news weather forecast provided by the .office. i— news weather forecast provided by the office. i hope you've by the met office. i hope you've teen— by the met office. i hope you've teen-tne— by the met office. i hope you'vei been -the -weekend been enjoying the long weekend so been enjoying the long weekend se ter— been enjoying the long weekend se ter .— been enjoying the long weekend se ter . tnere— been enjoying the long weekend so far . there has— been enjoying the long weekend so far. there has been a lot of tne— so far. there has been a lot of ttne weetner— so far. there has been a lot of fine weather around thanks to ntgn— fine weather around thanks to ntgn pressure— fine weather around thanks to high pressure that's with high pressure that's been with us-steytng— high pressure that's been with us-staying with- high pressure that's been with us staying with us us and is staying with us tnreugneut— us and is staying with us- throughout—sunday throughout the rest of sunday ent— throughout the rest of sunday ent tnte— throughout the rest of sunday and into monday— throughout the rest of sunday and into monday as well. whilst it's and into monday as well. whilst ttts-tergety— and into monday as well. whilst ttts-tergety try.- and into monday as well. whilst it's-largely dry, we- and into monday as well. whilst it's largely dry, we do it's staying largely dry, we do rust— it's staying largely dry, we do rust newe— it's staying largely dry, we do just have this— it's staying largely dry, we do just have this slight squeeze in the just have this slight squeeze in tne tseters— just have this slight squeeze in the isobars across— just have this slight squeeze in the isobars across the southern nett— the isobars across the southern nettltne— the isobars across the southern nettltne wt.— the isobars across the southern half-the uk..the- the isobars across the southern half the uk. the breeze is half of the uk. so the breeze is going— half of the uk. so the breeze is getng te— half of the uk. so the breeze is getng te te— half of the uk. so the breeze is going to be strengthening tnreugneut— going to be strengthening throughout evening throughout this evening and ewerntgnt. — throughout this evening andi ewerntgnt. —te overnight. so just do just be aware out camping out aware if you're out camping out nere— aware if you're out camping out here elsewhere,— aware if you're out camping out here elsewhere, the cloud will be netttng— here elsewhere, the cloud will be melting away— here elsewhere, the cloud will be melting away throughout the ntgnt— be melting away throughout the ntgnt-see— be melting away throughout the ntgnt-see e- be melting away throughout the night-see a good- night and we'll see a good nurnert— number of clear intervals teweteptng— number of clear intervals developing will allow developing that will allow temperatures— developing that will allow. temperatures—off temperatures to just drop off ewerlsttgntty— temperatures to just drop off ever slightly overnight. most ever so slightly overnight. most tewns— ever so slightly overnight. most tewns-ctttes— ever so slightly overnight. most towns-cities will- ever so slightly overnight. most towns cities will be down in towns and cities will be down in stngte— towns and cities will be down in stngte ttgures.— towns and cities will be down in single figures, there is the single figures, but there is the rtst— single figures, but there is the rtstle— single figures, but there is the rtstle-ruret- single figures, but there is the risk-a-rural frost- single figures, but there is the risk a rural frost for risk of a patchy rural frost for pens— risk of a patchy rural frost for pets et— risk of a patchy rural frost for parts of northern— risk of a patchy rural frost for parts of northern england. wennern— parts of northern england. northern ireland and scotland as wett— northern ireland and scotland as wet .— northern ireland and scotland as wet . oesptte— northern ireland and scotland as well . despite slightly well. despite that slightly ceet— well. despite that slightly ceet-stert- well. despite that slightly cool,-start ,- well. despite that slightly cool, start , though, cool, chilly start, though, tnere— cool, chilly start, though, tnere wttt— cool, chilly start, though, there will be— cool, chilly start, though, there will be a- cool, chilly start, though, there will be a good of there will be a good number of sunny— there will be a good number of sunny intervals— there will be a good number of sunny intervals as— there will be a good number of sunny intervals as we kick off tne— sunny intervals as we kick off

tne tent— sunny intervals as we kick off the bank holiday— sunny intervals as we kick off the bank holiday monday and wet— the bank holiday monday and wet-tnet— the bank holiday monday and we'll that sunshine as we we'll retain that sunshine as we neet— we'll retain that sunshine as we. neet—wett- head throughout the day as well. sene— head throughout the day as well. sene wtspy— head throughout the day as well. some wispy perhaps just some wispy cloud perhaps just nettng— some wispy cloud perhaps just making-sunshine- some wispy cloud perhaps just making sunshine hazier making the sunshine hazier in preces— making the sunshine hazier in pteces .— making the sunshine hazier in pteces . tut— making the sunshine hazier in places , but that— making the sunshine hazier in places , but that cloud is places, but that thin cloud is net— places, but that thin cloud is net-te— places, but that thin cloud is not-to protect- places, but that thin cloud is not to protect your skin not going to protect your skin tren— not going to protect your skin tren tne — not going to protect your skin from the - levels - not going to protect your skin from the levels that from the high uv levels that wttt— from the high uv levels that will-around— from the high uv levels that will around throughout the will be around throughout the tey. —yeutre| day. so do make sure you're tntnttng— day. so do make sure you're thinking about— day. so do make sure you're thinking about skin thinking about some skin pretectten— thinking about some skin protection-bit. thinking about some skin- protection.-bit cooler protection. feeling a bit cooler eteng— protection. feeling a bit cooler eteng-ceestet- protection. feeling a bit cooler along coastal areas with along eastern coastal areas with tnet— along eastern coastal areas with tnet-nut— along eastern coastal areas with that-but generally,- along eastern coastal areas with that but generally, 20 that breeze. but generally, 20 tegrees— that breeze. but generally, 20 tereeswerg—n i that breeze. but generally, 20 degrees—warm asi that breeze. but generally, 20. degrees—warm as you degrees and feeling warm as you neet— degrees and feeling warm as you neet turtner— degrees and feeling warm as you head further west— degrees and feeling warm as you head further west into the ewerntgnt— head further west into the overnight period. again, we'll tergety— overnight period. again, we'll see largely clear— overnight period. again, we'll see largely clear skies. so temperatures— see largely clear skies. so temperatures will be dropping off temperatures will be dropping ett ence— temperatures will be dropping off once again.— temperatures will be dropping off once again. the risk of that petcny— off once again. the risk of that petcny trest— off once again. the risk of that petcny trest ts— off once again. the risk of that patchy frost is going to be the nennern— patchy frost is going to be the northern areas— patchy frost is going to be the northern areas of— patchy frost is going to be the northern areas of scotland where wett— northern areas of scotland where web stey— northern areas of scotland where we'll stay cloudiest_ northern areas of scotland where we'll stay cloudiest as head we'll stay cloudiest as we head tnte— we'll stay cloudiest as we head tnte-rerneps— we'll stay cloudiest as we head into-perhaps the- we'll stay cloudiest as we head into perhaps the odd into tuesday. perhaps the odd spet—pens- spot of drizzle for parts of snettent. — spot of drizzle for parts of shetland, elsewhere it'll be shetland, but elsewhere it'll be steytng— shetland, but elsewhere it'll be seytng-egetn- shetland, but elsewhere it'll be staying again. and a staying dry once again. and a geet— staying dry once again. and a geet eeunt— staying dry once again. and a good amount—if. staying dry once again. and a. good amount—if you good amount of sunshine if you are good amount of sunshine if you ere-teettng— good amount of sunshine if you are heading outside. just are still heading outside. just are still heading outside. just e-cteut— are still heading outside. just a-cloud floating- are still heading outside. just a cloud floating its way a bit of cloud floating its way in a bit of cloud floating its way tn entren— a bit of cloud floating its way in omicron, eastern coastal ntgn— in omicron, eastern coastal areas. high pressure is staying wttn— areas. high pressure is staying wttn us— areas. high pressure is staying wttn us es— areas. high pressure is staying wttn us es we— areas. high pressure is staying with us as we head throughout the with us as we head throughout tne-et— with us as we head throughout tne-er tne— with us as we head throughout the-of the week. - with us as we head throughout the of the week. but as the rest of the week. but as wtnts— the rest of the week. but as wtnts ee— the rest of the week. but as winds move clockwise winds move in a clockwise ttrectten— winds move in a clockwisei direction _we're direction around this, we're stttt— direction around this, we're still—feeding. direction around this, we'rej still—feeding in still going to be feeding in tnet— still going to be feeding in that easterly— still going to be feeding in that easterly north easterly treee— that easterly north easterly breeze with _ that easterly north easterly breeze with cloud potentially rust—eestern- breeze with cloud potentially. just—eastern areas just pushing into eastern areas tnreugneut— just pushing into eastern areas throughout the— just pushing into eastern areas throughout the week. so generetty. —

throughout the week. so generally,-is- throughout the week. so generally, is going to be generally, west is going to be test— generally, west is going to be test-tnese— generally, west is going to be best those temperatures

radio. welcome back. you are watching and listening to gb news sunday with me, emily carver on your tv onune with me, emily carver on your tv online and digital radio. so let's go your views. you've let's go to your views. you've been getting touch on our big been getting in touch on our big topic the day. firstly, topic of the day. firstly, regarding starmer's regarding keir starmer's plans to all oil gas to block all oil and gas developments in the north sea. that's stop. is that's what just stop. oil is asking for. richard says the fact is we need more oil and gas so. well, there you go. we must stop backing ourselves into this green de sac here. green utopian cul de sac here. hear? richard, think we need hear? richard, i think we need oil gas, too. certainly for oil and gas, too. certainly for another 20, 30 years. and then we can have all nice green technology . and then weighing in technology. and then weighing in on is barry who on keir starmer is barry who says, i listen to keir says, the more i listen to keir starmer, the more i think god help us. if the labour party get in at the next election. i have voted all of my 55 years, but

bons voted all of my 55 years, but boris johnson was and is untrustworthy , so i won't be untrustworthy, so i won't be voting for them either. but bonsisnt voting for them either. but boris isn't in power anymore . boris isn't in power anymore. you could vote for the lovely rishi sunak if you if you fancied it. well, who knows? anyway, there are other options available to you . and regarding available to you. and regarding the government's proposed food cap plan, linda says cap price plan, linda says capping prices lead to capping prices will lead to a further squeeze on our poor farmers who get a raw deal from the already. why the supermarkets already. why not help the farmers with their spiralling energy, spiralling costs in energy, fertilisers , and fertilisers etcetera, and policies encourage policies that encourage increased food production at home? yes, i think they've got this back to front. why this a bit back to front. why not subsidise farmers rather not subsidise the farmers rather than the supermarkets than telling the supermarkets at the supply chain to the end of the supply chain to cap once they've got cap the prices once they've got there? that would make too much sense for a government i suppose. your views suppose. anyway, keep your views coming subscribe to our coming in and subscribe to our youtube you're at youtube channel while you're at it. we've got of popular it. we've got lots of popular youtube videos on youtube videos there on everything and follow everything we cover and follow us twitter . are everything we cover and follow us twitter. are gb us on twitter. we are at gb news. so moving to scotland, the lovely humza yousaf. the scottish government has unveiled plans a sleepover tax, so plans for a sleepover tax, so anyone staying in scotland and

anyone staying in scotland and anyone staying in tourist accommodation will have to pay. the move would give councils the power to impose a tax on stays in any form of overnight accommodation that includes hotels, , self—catering hotels, hostels, self—catering accommodation, guest houses, guest houses, b&bs , camping guest houses, b&bs, camping sites and even caravan parks, as well as boat moorings and berthings . so it's quite berthings. so it's quite expansive . so let's head to expansive. so let's head to scotland and speak with political commentator stuart crawford . stuart, why would you crawford. stuart, why would you want to punish the, uh, the tourist industry in scotland like this ? well, emily, good like this? well, emily, good etterneen. — like this? well, emily, good afternoon. i— like this? well, emily, good afternoon. i don't- c 7 well, emily, good afternoon. i don't think it's a et— afternoon. i don't think it's a case of punishing the tourist tntustry. — case of punishing the tourist industry. we're— case of punishing the tourist industry. �*lixt�*ti iti itiitcgt ti. industry. we're really quite at an early stage of the sleepover tax or to give it its sunday posh name, the transient visitor levy , which the scottish levy, which the scottish parliament is proposing, a bill which will enable local councils and scotland's got 32 unitary councils to levy this transient

visitor levy should they choose to do so. but there are going to be to do so. but there are going to te cenetn— to do so. but there are going to be certain caveats— titit but there are going to be certain caveats and conditions— be certain caveats and conditions on- be certain caveats and conditions on it in that it can enty— conditions on it in that it can enty te— conditions on it in that it can only be levied— conditions on it in that it can only be levied after a consultation- only be levied after a consultation on within the ceunctt— consultation on within the council areas— consultation on within the council areas and the money has to council areas and the money has te te— council areas and the money has to be reinvested— council areas and the money has to be reinvested in— council areas and the money has to be reinvested in the council areas where it— to be reinvested in the council areas where it is— to be reinvested in the council areas where it is raised. stunt.— areas where it is raised. stuert. t— areas where it is raised. stuert. t ew— areas where it is raised. stuart, i saw that- areas where it is raised. stuart, i saw that the. stuart, i saw that the consultation for this policy , consultation for this policy, 63% of those who answered didn't like the idea. so clearly politicians don't, don't care about consultations and don't care about democracy. and you know, as well as i do that politicians in local or in government don't care will certainly go for this. and they will take this tax and they will impose it because what do politicians like doing? taxing well, there's an element of truth in that, emily. i mean, i think that's you've— truth in that, emily. i mean, i think that's you've taken- think that's you've taken a sttgntty— think that's you've taken a slightly extreme view there, but tnere-s— slightly extreme view there, but tnere-s ne — slightly extreme view there, but there's no doubt— slightly extreme view there, but there's no doubt that for local ceunctst— there's no doubt that for local councils, the _ there's no doubt that for local councils, the thing is, it's sttgntty— councils, the thing is, it's slightly contrarian because the scetttsn— slightly contrarian because the scottish government, the snp gewernnent— scottish government, the snp government in— scottish government, the snp government in edinburgh has sueege— government in edinburgh has sueege uset— government in edinburgh has squeeze used council budgets for

the squeeze used council budgets for tne pest— squeeze used council budgets for the past decade— squeeze used council budgets for the past decade or— squeeze used council budgets for the past decade or so and also prewentet— the past decade or so and also prevented them— the past decade or so and also prevented them raising council tax prevented them raising council tex ent— prevented them raising council tax and increasingly councils are tax and increasingly councils runntng— tax and increasingly councils are running out— tax and increasingly councils are running out of money and speettng— are running out of money and speettng et— are running out of money and speaking of edinburgh, which i knew— speaking of edinburgh, which i knew test.— speaking of edinburgh, which i know best, there's an awful lot of investment— know best, there's an awful lot of investment required in the infrastructure _ of investment required in the infrastructure and now that infrastructure _ infrastructure and now that infrastructure is used quite rtgntty— infrastructure is used quite rtgntty ty— infrastructure is used quite rightly by the— infrastructure is used quite rightly by the tourists who trtng — rightly by the tourists who tnng tets— rightly by the tourists who bring lots of— rightly by the tourists who bring lots of revenue to the ctty. — bring lots of revenue to the ctty. nut— bring lots of revenue to the city. but they're _ bring lots of revenue to the city. but they're also using the tectttttes— city. but they're also using the tectttttes .— city. but they're also using the facilities . and _ city. but they're also using the facilities . and in— city. but they're also using the facilities . and in some areas, facilities. and in some areas, for facilities. and in some areas, ter exempte— facilities. and in some areas, ter exenpte .— facilities. and in some areas, for example , the— facilities. and in some areas, for example , the roads in for example, the roads in tttnturgn— for example, the roads in edinburgh are— for example, the roads in edinburgh are of a third world stentert— edinburgh are of a third world stentert et— edinburgh are of a third world standard at the— edinburgh are of a third world standard at the moment. and so ceuncts— standard at the moment. and so ceunctts cen— standard at the moment. and so councils can they've got another et— councils can they've got another means of raising— councils can they've got another means of raising money to help tnen — means of raising money to help them reinvest— means of raising money to help them reinvest in— means of raising money to help them reinvest in that. and to be nenest— them reinvest in that. and to be nenest wttn— them reinvest in that. and to be honest with you,— them reinvest in that. and to be honest with you, it's only £2 a ntgnt— honest with you, it's only £2 a ntgnt er— honest with you, it's only £2 a ntgnt er tne— honest with you, it's only £2 a night or the idea— honest with you, it's only £2 a night or the idea is it's only £2 e— night or the idea is it's only £2 e ntgnt— night or the idea is it's only £2 a night for— night or the idea is it's only £2 a night for the first week of a £2 a night for the first week of e teurtst— £2 a night for the first week of e teurtst stey. — £2 a night for the first week of a tourist stay. and— £2 a night for the first week of a tourist stay. and frankly , a tourist stay. and frankly, putttng— a tourist stay. and frankly, putting about— a tourist stay. and frankly, putting about 10 to £15 on a ettt— putting about 10 to £15 on a pit ts— putting about 10 to £15 on a pit ts net— putting about 10 to £15 on a bill is not actually going to nurt— bill is not actually going to nun tee— bill is not actually going to hurt too many— bill is not actually going to hurt too many people. �*lixt�*ticc c hurt too many people. well, it ntgnt— hurt too many people. well, it ntgnt net— hurt too many people. well, it ntgnt net te— hurt too many people. well, it might not be that much for you, stuart, but for someone it could be a game changer. they might decide want to go to decide that they want to go to

the district instead of the lake district instead of aberdeenshire. you know. aberdeenshire. you never know. it change people's it it might change people's it might change people's plans. it might change people's it might change people's plans . and might change people's plans. and also say it's absolutely also i would say it's absolutely ridiculous lived in ridiculous. if you lived in edinburgh you wanted to edinburgh and you wanted to go on i don't know, on the on holiday, i don't know, on the west somewhere you'd west coast somewhere you'd have to your camper van. to pay to park your camper van. you'd to pay a tourist levy you'd have to pay a tourist levy or perhaps stuart and this is what think perhaps this is what i think perhaps this is just a, a sneaky way of getting the english, you know, they'll have to they'll have to pay extra fees if they want to come to scotland to have a holiday. and i say that as someone who is half scottish. stuart thank you though sadly, all we though sadly, that is all we have time i'm sure you have time for. i'm sure you wouldn't wouldn't agree on wouldn't have wouldn't agree on some that i just some of the things that i just said, there you go. said, but there you go. political commentator stuart crawford there talking me crawford there talking to me about plans about what humza yousafs plans to people if they stay to tax people if they stay overnight sounds overnight in scotland. sounds a bit me, but he has bit harsh to me, but he has a lot of money to claw back, doesn't he? you are watching and listening news sunday with listening to gb news sunday with me, we got me, emily carver. we have got lots more up on today's lots more coming up on today's show. the home office is launching campaign aimed launching an ad campaign aimed at albanian nationals at deterring albanian nationals from crossings

from making channel crossings will is negotiated will it work or is negotiated with people traffickers? a lost cause? perhaps? you think it's a bit harsh. but first, let's get the news with tatiana . emily, the news with tatiana. emily, thank you very much- emily, thank you very much and good etterneen. — thank you very much and good afternoon. this— thank you very much and good afternoon. this is— thank you very much and good afternoon. this is the latest tren— afternoon. this is the latest tren tne— afternoon. this is the latest from the newsroom itv sources newe— from the newsroom itv sources newe tett— from the newsroom itv sources newe tett cn— from the newsroom itv sources have told gb news bosses have rust— have told gb news bosses have tust seen— have told gb news bosses have rust teys— have told gb news bosses have just seven days to— have told gb news bosses have just seven days to save. this nerntng— just seven days to save. this morning following the fallout surreunttng— morning following the fallout surrounding philip's schofield stert— surrounding philip's schofield staff members— surrounding philip's schofield staff members who raised concerns say executives need to prewe— concerns say executives need to prewe tney-re — concerns say executives need to prove they're properly addressing _ prove they're properly addressing the issue and they'll neet— addressing the issue and they'll neet te— addressing the issue and they'll neet te wtn— addressing the issue and they'll need to win back— addressing the issue and they'll need to win back the trust of tne— need to win back the trust of viewers. the broadcast has centtrnet— viewers. the broadcast has confirmed the— viewers. the broadcast has confirmed the show will air tomorrow, adding it's not under ent— tomorrow, adding it's not under review and there— tomorrow, adding it's not under review and there are no plans for review and there are no plans ter tt— review and there are no plans ter tt te— review and there are no plans ter tt te te— review and there are no plans for it to be axed.— review and there are no plans for it to be axed. it says new tetetts— for it to be axed. it says new details emerged— for it to be axed. it says new details emerged about schofield's— details emerged about schofield's relationship with a runner who was— schofield's relationship with a runner who was reportedly 15 yeers— runner who was reportedly 15 yeers ett— runner who was reportedly 15 years old when— runner who was reportedly 15 years old when they first met. a ttwe— years old when they first met. a ttwe yeer— years old when they first met. a ttwe yeer ett— years old when they first met. a five year old girl— years old when they first met. a five year old girl has died tettewtng— five year old girl has died tettewtng e— five year old girl has died following a house fire in pembrokeshire. despite the ettens— pembrokeshire. despite the ettens et— pembrokeshire. despite the efforts of emergency services, attcte— efforts of emergency services, alicia salisbury— efforts of emergency services, alicia salisbury passed away at

the alicia salisbury passed away at tne scene— alicia salisbury passed away at tne et— alicia salisbury passed away at the scene of the— alicia salisbury passed away at the scene of the blaze in the renty— the scene of the blaze in the ponty glacier— the scene of the blaze in the ponty glacier area last night. ner— ponty glacier area last night. he tentty— ponty glacier area last night. her family, who— ponty glacier area last night. her family, who described her as a her family, who described her as e teeutttut— her family, who described her as a beautiful daughter and sister . tetng— a beautiful daughter and sister , are being supported by spectettst— , are being supported by specialist officers . the force specialist officers. the force seys— specialist officers. the force seys ttts— specialist officers. the force says it's working— specialist officers. the force says it's working to establish the says it's working to establish tne ceuse— says it's working to establish the cause the— says it's working to establish the cause the government is teuncntng— the cause the government is teuncntng en— the cause the government is launching an ad— the cause the government is launching an ad campaign to stop peepte— launching an ad campaign to stop peepte tren— launching an ad campaign to stop people from crossing the cnennet.— people from crossing the channel. the— people from crossing the channel. the advert set to be ctrcutetet— channel. the advert set to be circulated in— channel. the advert set to be circulated in albania next week, wttt— circulated in albania next week, wttt wern— circulated in albania next week, will warn people— circulated in albania next week, will warn people they face being tetetnet— will warn people they face being tetetnet ent— will warn people they face being detained and removed if they mete— detained and removed if they nete tne— detained and removed if they make the journey. critics have etreety— make the journey. critics have already branded _ make the journey. critics have already branded it as pointless . seytng— already branded it as pointless . seytng tt— already branded it as pointless . seytng tt wen-t— already branded it as pointless , saying it won't deter them. a ecert— , saying it won't deter them. a record number— , saying it won't deter them. a record number of— , saying it won't deter them. a record number of people made the cresstng— record number of people made the cresstng tn— record number of people made the crossing in small— record number of people made the crossing in small boats last yeer— crossing in small boats last yeer ent— crossing in small boats last year and more— crossing in small boats last year and more than 6000 have teen— year and more than 6000 have been intercepted— year and more than 6000 have been intercepted so far this yeer— been intercepted so far this yeer .— been intercepted so far this year . meanwhile, labour says it year. meanwhile, labour says it weutt— year. meanwhile, labour says it weutt tnpese— year. meanwhile, labour says it would impose time limits on ntrtng— would impose time limits on hiring overseas— would impose time limits on hiring overseas workers in a bid to hiring overseas workers in a bid te tert— hiring overseas workers in a bid to kerb migration.— hiring overseas workers in a bid to kerb migration. the shadow nene— to kerb migration. the shadow home secretary,— to kerb migration. the shadow home secretary, yvette cooper, nes— home secretary, yvette cooper, nes tett— home secretary, yvette cooper, nes tett tne— home secretary, yvette cooper, has told the sunday telegraph it weutt— has told the sunday telegraph it weutt sene— has told the sunday telegraph it would serve as— has told the sunday telegraph it would serve as an— has told the sunday telegraph it would serve as an incentive to ten— would serve as an incentive to tretn nrtttsn— would serve as an incentive to train british workers . she also train british workers. she also suggestet— train british workers. she also suggestet tne— train british workers. she also suggested the party would ask the suggested the party would ask tne ntgretten— suggested the party would ask the migration advisory committee for the migration advisory committee ter epprepnete— the migration advisory committee for appropriate timescales for

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on gb news, the people's channel. britain's news . britain's news. channel channel. britain's news. channel iwetcene— channel. britain's news. channel | wetcenne test.— channel. britain's news. channel welcome back. you're watching channel. britain's news. channel welcome ba gb you're watching channel. britain's news. channel welcome ba gb news watching channel. britain's news. channel welcome ba gb news sundayrg and listening to gb news sunday with carver. to with me, emily carver. so to just oil protesters were just stop oil protesters were arrested for disrupting the gallagher premiership rugby final at twickenham yesterday. by final at twickenham yesterday. by now, i'm sure you've seen the pictures of the scene there. you go. 37 year old doctor patrick hart bristol and 40 year hart from bristol and 40 year old johnson from essex ran old sam johnson from essex ran onto the pitch midway through the first half of the match before throwing orange paint powder the field over powder onto the field all over the look at them. they're the place. look at them. they're having a whale of having a having a whale of a time was suspended as time playing was suspended as the were escorted the the men were escorted from the stadium by stewards . i believe stadium by stewards. i believe also a rugby also got

also a rugby player also got involved he is taking him involved there. he is taking him across pitch, dragging him across the pitch, dragging him kicking screaming perhaps across the pitch, dragging him kickcould screaming perhaps across the pitch, dragging him kickcould say:reaming perhaps across the pitch, dragging him kickcould say sorming perhaps across the pitch, dragging him kickcould say so .1ing perhaps across the pitch, dragging him kickcould say so . joiningerhaps across the pitch, dragging him kickcould say so . joining merps across the pitch, dragging him kickcould say so . joining me now you could say so. joining me now is zoe cohen , a just stop oil is zoe cohen, a just stop oil spokesperson . we've gone spokesperson. we've gone straight to the people who know what's going on. thank you very much joining me. zoe. do you much forjoining me. zoe. do you think in hindsight, with hindsight , think in hindsight, with hindsight, it was perhaps a little bit of a mistake forjust little bit of a mistake for just stop oil to do this with this rugby match? they were very swiftly taken they ended swiftly taken off and they ended up looking a silly, did they up looking a bit silly, did they not? hi, emily. thanks for newtng— not? hi, emily. thanks for newtng ne— not? hi, emily. thanks for having me on.— not? hi, emily. thanks for having me on. i- “tit7 hi, emily. thanks for having me on. i don't think they teetet— having me on. i don't think they teetet sttty— having me on. i don't think they looked silly at— having me on. i don't think they looked silly at all,— having me on. i don't think they looked silly at all, to be nenest.— looked silly at all, to be nenest. t— looked silly at all, to be honest. i think it's obviously ont— honest. i think it's obviously ent ceuset— honest. i think it's obviously obe caused a— honest. i think it's obviously obe caused a lot— honest. i think it's obviously obe caused a lot of conversation . wntcn— obe caused a lot of conversation . wntcn ts— obe caused a lot of conversation , which is what,— obe caused a lot of conversation , which is what, sadly we have to , which is what, sadly we have te te. — , which is what, sadly we have te te. tnese— , which is what, sadly we have to do. these things to ensure tnet— to do. these things to ensure tnet tne— to do. these things to ensure that the biggest— to do. these things to ensure that the biggest threat to all of that the biggest threat to all et us— that the biggest threat to all et us gtetetty— that the biggest threat to all of us globally and all of our cntttren— of us globally and all of our children and— of us globally and all of our children and grandchildren is tewet— children and grandchildren is talked about— children and grandchildren is talked about because it just teesn-t— talked about because it just teesn-t get— talked about because it just doesn't get talked about. atit doesn't get talked about. do you tntnte— doesn't get talked about. do you tttnte zeee— doesn't get talked about. do you think? zoe? zoe,— doesn't get talked about. do you think? zoe? zoe, sorry to interrupt you, but do you think that's because i take that's the case? because i take your that if you make your point that if you make a spectacle, well, then people will start talking about it. but what i've seen recent days is

what i've seen in recent days is that of ordinary people that a lot of ordinary people fighting back in their own way. so we've seen, for example, a bndge so we've seen, for example, a bridge was blocked by just stop oil protesters . and scaffolder oil protesters. and a scaffolder got his van and pushed got out of his van and pushed them away because he needed to get to work. we've seen at the chelsea flower show a woman chelsea flower show that a woman took herself to spray took it upon herself to spray the with a hosepipe the protesters with a hosepipe with water because she was so frustrated. we've seen with this rugby match that he was there. the just stop oil protesters were very swiftly dragged off the pitch by the rugby player themselves and secured motty. so do you think perhaps a lot of people are not getting the message and they actually find you a bit of a nuisance ? yes you a bit of a nuisance? yes thanks , emily. i mean, i think thanks, emily. i mean, i think it's thanks, emily. i mean, i think tt-s reetty— thanks, emily. i mean, i think it's really important- thanks, emily. i mean, i think it's really important to- gt i mean, i think it's really important to make tnet— it's really important to make sure that all— it's really important to make sure that all of— it's really important to make sure that all of your listeners unterstent— sure that all of your listeners understand that— sure that all of your listeners understand that what just stop. oil understand that what just stop. on ts— understand that what just stop. on ts esttng— understand that what just stop. oil is asking for— understand that what just stop. oil is asking for demanding from the oil is asking for demanding from tne trt— oil is asking for demanding from the uk government is an end to tesstt— the uk government is an end to new fossil fuels,—

the uk government is an end to new fossil fuels, new fossil tuet— new fossil fuels, new fossil tuet prerect.— new fossil fuels, new fossil fuel project. we're not saying step— fuel project. we're not saying step ett— fuel project. we're not saying stop all fossil— fuel project. we're not saying stop all fossil fuel use right now. we're saying stop building. wew— now. we're saying stop building. wew teps— now. we're saying stop building. wew teps ee— now. we're saying stop building. new taps are the— now. we're saying stop building. new taps are the house is on we — new taps are the house is on we eur— new taps are the house is on fire. our children— new taps are the house is on fire. our children are locked in the fire. our children are locked in tne neuse— fire. our children are locked in the house and— fire. our children are locked in the house and this government is peurtng— the house and this government is peurtng nere— the house and this government is pouring more petrol on the ttenes— pouring more petrol on the ttenes ent— pouring more petrol on the flames and that's genocidal and nwererst se— flames and that's genocidal and murderers. so it's— flames and that's genocidal and murderers. so it's important tnet— murderers. so it's important tnet eeenery— murderers. so it's important that everyone understands that. zoe that everyone understands that. zee tnet-s— that everyone understands that. zoe that's extremely that's very extree — zoe that's extremely that's very extreme language. atit extreme language. do you genutnety— extreme language. do you genuinely believe that? because i've been looking at statistics about this, because i want to know the facts and i've been looking at climate climate related deaths and they've nosedived in the last years as we've become more adaptive to different types of climate. it's a trope that you guys push a it's a trope that you guys push e tet— it's a trope that you guys push e tet .— it's a trope that you guys push e tet . t— it's a trope that you guys push etet . t tnnt— it's a trope that you guys push a lot . i think that— it's a trope that you guys push a lot . i think that there are a lot. i think that there are nuge— a lot. i think that there are huge numbers,— a lot. i think that there are huge numbers, huge amounts of nern— huge numbers, huge amounts of term ent— huge numbers, huge amounts of harm and death— huge numbers, huge amounts of harm and death that is not ceuntet— harm and death that is not ceuntet tn— harm and death that is not counted in those numbers. so for exenpte.— counted in those numbers. so for exenpte. tne— counted in those numbers. so for example, the people who are dyinp_ example, the people who are tytng ttteretty— example, the people who are dying literally minute by minute tne— dying literally minute by minute across the 140— dying literally minute by minute across the 140 million people in the across the 140 million people in tne eest— across the 140 million people in tne eest et— across the 140 million people in the east of africa— across the 140 million people in the east of africa who are expenenctng— the east of africa who are experiencing the worst climate treugnt— experiencing the worst climate treugnt tn— experiencing the worst climate treugnt tn ao— experiencing the worst climate drought in 40 years plus

ttteretty— drought in 40 years plus ttteretty .— drought in 40 years plus literally , people are dying literally, people are dying ewery— literally, people are dying ewery tew— literally, people are dying every few seconds , every 30 odd every few seconds, every 30 odd secents— every few seconds, every 30 odd secents tn— every few seconds, every 30 odd seconds in east— every few seconds, every 30 odd seconds in east africa . those seconds in east africa. those ttnt— seconds in east africa. those ttnt et— seconds in east africa. those kind of deaths— seconds in east africa. those kind of deaths from malnutrition . sterwetten— kind of deaths from malnutrition , starvation are— kind of deaths from malnutrition , starvation are not— kind of deaths from malnutrition , starvation are not counted as cttnete. — , starvation are not counted as cttnete. sorry.— , starvation are not counted as climate. sorry, sorry, zoe, but do you think that stopping new gas and oil licences in this country will help save those people from a climate related death? because i am very sceptical because these oil and gas companies, if they can't work here, they're not going to stop drilling. they're just going to go elsewhere for example, one scottish business up in the north sea, they're going to move their industry to indonesia, for example. so we're talking about the entire planet . and you're focusing on the mahyar tousi of british policy . mahyar tousi of british policy. are you thinking big enough ? are you thinking big enough? should you be going to china , should you be going to china, india, pakistan? et cetera. et cetera . yeah. yeah. again, cetera. yeah. yeah. again, tnet-s— cetera. yeah. yeah. again, tnet-s e— cetera. yeah. yeah. again, that's a common- ti.tictiit t/tiit“ yeah. again, that's a common thing that you guys— that's a common thing that you guys pusn— that's a common thing that you guys pusn cut.— that's a common thing that you guys push out, isn't it? we're nrtttsn— guys push out, isn't it? we're british citizens,— guys push out, isn't it? we're british citizens, so we have to tecus— british citizens, so we have to tecus en— british citizens, so we have to tecus en tne— british citizens, so we have to focus on the british government ent— focus on the british government ent es— focus on the british government ent es we— focus on the british government and as we know,— focus on the british government and as we know, there are courageous, ordinary people. all tne— courageous, ordinary people. all over the world— courageous, ordinary people. all over the world in— courageous, ordinary people. all over the world in lots of tttterent— over the world in lots of different countries who've had

eneugn— different countries who've had eneugn es— different countries who've had enough as well. _ different countries who've had enough as well. and are tenenttng— enough as well. and are demanding similar or related tenents— demanding similar or related tenents et— demanding similar or related demands of their own governments. i think only yestertey— governments. i think only yesterday 6000 people blocked a neterwey— yesterday 6000 people blocked a neterwey tn— yesterday 6000 people blocked a neterwey tn tne— yesterday 6000 people blocked a motorway in the netherlands, tenenttng— motorway in the netherlands, tenenttng en— motorway in the netherlands, demanding an end to fossil fuel sutstttes. — demanding an end to fossil fuel sutstttes. tt— demanding an end to fossil fuel subsidies. et cetera . and 1500 subsidies. et cetera. and 1500 of subsidies. et cetera. and 1500 et tnen— subsidies. et cetera. and 1500 et tnen wee— subsidies. et cetera. and 1500 of them were arrested in one tey. — of them were arrested in one tey. se— of them were arrested in one tey. se tnts— of them were arrested in one tey. se tnts ts— of them were arrested in one day. so this is not only the uk, you— day. so this is not only the uk, yeu knew.— day. so this is not only the uk, yeu tnew. peepte— day. so this is not only the uk, you know, people all over the went— you know, people all over the wertt ee— you know, people all over the world are taking— you know, people all over the world are taking action because tney-we— world are taking action because tney-we-eneugn— world are taking action because they've-enough of- world are taking action because they've enough of the lies they've had enough of the lies ent— they've had enough of the lies and deception— they've had enough of the lies and deception of— they've had enough of the lies and deception of the oil cepes— and deception of the oil companies the and deception of the oil- companies-the governments. companies and the governments. you companies and the governments. veu knew.— companies and the governments. veu knew. we— companies and the governments. you know, we know— companies and the governments. you know, we know this government _ you know, we know this government received this conservative _ government received this conservative party received £3.5 ntttten— conservative party received £3.5 ntttten. se— conservative party received £3.5 ntttten. se yeu— conservative party received £3.5 million. so you must be million peunts— million. so you must be million peunts tren— million. so you must be million pounds from oil— million. so you must be million pounds from oil interests , from pounds from oil interests, from pettuters— pounds from oil interests, from pettuters ent— pounds from oil interests, from polluters and from the climate tentet— polluters and from the climate denial platforms.— polluters and from the climate denial platforms. they are tunttng— denial platforms. they are funding this— denial platforms. they are funding this government. no wente— funding this government. no wente tne— funding this government. no wonder the government doesn't went— wonder the government doesn't went te — wonder the government doesn't went te step— wonder the government doesn't went te step-ges.- wonder the government doesn't want to stop gas. well, wonder the government doesn't wan wouldn't gas. well, wonder the government doesn't wan wouldn't be gas. well, wonder the government doesn't wanwouldn't be surprised. tll, wonder the government doesn't wanwouldn't be surprised. t/tit. you wouldn't be surprised. you must—en— you wouldn't be surprised. you must—en tnet- you wouldn't be surprised. you must—on that point,| must be on that on that point, zoe, you must be delighted to see. i it was on the front see. i think it was on the front page of one of the main newspapers that newspapers today that keir starmer said yes to the starmer has said yes to the policy that you are proposing. starmer has said yes to the polsaysiat you are proposing. starmer has said yes to the polsays that)u are proposing. starmer has said yes to the polsays that there proposing. starmer has said yes to the polsays that there won't sing. starmer has said yes to the polsays that there won't be g. starmer has said yes to the polsays that there won't be any he says that there won't be any new gas licences in the new oil and gas licences in the nonh new oil and gas licences in the north sea. do you consider north sea. so do you consider that big win for just stop oil that a big win for just stop oil well, that isn't entirely new.

tsn-t— well, that isn't entirely new. isn't entirely— well, that isn't entirely new. isn't entirely new news? emily gm.— isn't entirely new news? emily wn. tettew— isn't entirely new news? emily um, labour party— isn't entirely new news? emily um, labour party talked about suppentng— um, labour party talked about suppentng tne— um, labour party talked about supporting the need to end new oil supporting the need to end new ett ent— supporting the need to end new ett ent ges— supporting the need to end new oil and gas projects some time ago,— oil and gas projects some time we es— oil and gas projects some time we es newe— oil and gas projects some time ago, as have other— oil and gas projects some time ago, as have other main pettttcet— ago, as have other main political parties and the scetttsn— political parties and the scottish parliament. so, you knew.— scottish parliament. so, you knew. ttts— scottish parliament. so, you know, it's really— scottish parliament. so, you know, it's really just the conservative _ know, it's really just the conservative party that are out on conservative party that are out en e ttnt— conservative party that are out on a limb here,— conservative party that are out on a limb here, but it's not surpnstng— on a limb here, but it's not surprising because they get £3.5 ntttten— surprising because they get £3.5 ntttten tn— surprising because they get £3.5 million in one— surprising because they get £3.5 million in one year— surprising because they get £3.5 million in one year alone from tne— million in one year alone from tne pettuters. — million in one year alone from the polluters. so— million in one year alone from the polluters. so it's not reetty— the polluters. so it's not really surprising that they ten-t— really surprising that they ten-t went— really surprising that they don't want to, _ really surprising that they don't want to, you know, cut off tne— don't want to, you know, cut off tne-er— don't want to, you know, cut off the-or whatever- don't want to, you know, cut off the or whatever the right the nose or whatever the right expessen— the nose or whatever the right exresstenp ts.— the nose or whatever the right expression is. you— the nose or whatever the right expression is. you know, the getten— expression is. you know, the getten. tne— expression is. you know, the golden, the golden goose that teets— golden, the golden goose that teets tnen— golden, the golden goose that feeds them. they— golden, the golden goose that feeds them. they don't want to ent— feeds them. they don't want to ent tne— feeds them. they don't want to end the golden— feeds them. they don't want to end the golden goose, they? end the golden goose, do they? so end the golden goose, do they? se—tt-s— so they're not it's not surpnstng. — so they're not it's not surprising. you know, so they're not it's not- surprising.-you know, at so they're not it's not- surjendig.-you know, at so they're not it's not- surjend of-you know, at so they're not it's not surjend of the you know, at so they're not it's not surjend of the day, know, at so they're not it's not surjend of the day, young at so they're not it's not surjend of the day, young people the end of the day, young people teet— the end of the day, young people teet tesperete— the end of the day, young people feel desperate .— the end of the day, young people feel desperate . they're anxious. feel desperate. they're anxious. they— feel desperate. they're anxious. tney-tetetty— feel desperate. they're anxious. they .totally be _ feel desperate. they're anxious. they totally be left behind they feel totally be left behind and they feel totally be left behind ent tgneret— they feel totally be left behind and ignored and— they feel totally be left behind and ignored and betrayed by pettttctens. — and ignored and betrayed by politicians. i— and ignored and betrayed by politicians. �*"titic c politicians. i feel like a lot of the doom mongering on the world. emily, i think a lot of the doom mongering can make them feel that way. and i don't always believe it's justified because i think a lot of people would like us to transition to a greener greener of energy.

greener, greener ways of energy. of course we do. but a lot of people would concede that we're going to need oil and gas for at least 20, 30 more years in order to transition to net zero. so we may as well we may as well. we may as well we may as well. we may well be getting it from may as well be getting it from here. may as well be getting here. we may as well be getting it here close to home, it from here close to home, where is probably more eco where it is probably more eco friendly import , buying it friendly than import, buying it from across the world, from halfway across the world, which is what will happen. so that's problem. just trying that's the problem. just trying to about it. and of to be realistic about it. and of course, we to put lots of course, we need to put lots of energy into adaptation . of energy into adaptation. of course, across the world, we need we do energy into need we do need energy into adaptation. i need we do need energy into adaptation . i would absolutely adaptation. i would absolutely egree— adaptation. i would absolutely ewee-tnet.— adaptation. i would absolutely agree-that. but- adaptation. i would absolutely agree .that. but-need. agree with that. but we need to be agree with that. but we need to te reettsttc— agree with that. but we need to be realistic about— agree with that. but we need to be realistic about physics. you centt— be realistic about physics. you can't negotiate— be realistic about physics. you can't negotiate with the melting petnt— can't negotiate with the melting petnt et— can't negotiate with the melting petnt et rce— can't negotiate with the melting petnt et tce .— can't negotiate with the melting point of ice . you— can't negotiate with the melting point of ice . you know, you guys point of ice. you know, you guys setes— point of ice. you know, you guys sometimes talk— point of ice. you know, you guys sometimes talk as— point of ice. you know, you guys sometimes talk as if this thing is sometimes talk as if this thing ts negettette— sometimes talk as if this thing is negotiable. the— sometimes talk as if this thing is negotiable. the melting point of is negotiable. the melting point et rce— is negotiable. the melting point et tce tsn-t— is negotiable. the melting point of ice isn't negotiable. the tenperetwe— of ice isn't negotiable. the temperature which people die temperature at which people die tsn-t— temperature at which people die isn't negotiable.— isn't negotiable. the temperature crops fail temperature at which crops fail tsn-t— temperature at which crops fail isn't negotiable— temperature at which crops fail isn't negotiable .— temperature at which crops fail isn't negotiable . it's not isn't negotiable. it's not negettette. — isn't negotiable. it's not negotiable. this stuff you see, tnts— negotiable. this stuff you see, tnts ts— negotiable. this stuff you see, this is where— negotiable. this stuff you see, this is where i— negotiable. this stuff you see, this is where i disagree with you— this is where i disagree with yeu peceuse— this is where i disagree with you because we— this is where i disagree with you because we are we are coming you because we are we are coming up you because we are we are coming up es— you because we are we are coming up es e— you because we are we are coming up es e spectes. — you because we are we are coming up es e spectes. we— you because we are we are coming up as a species. ititi “g up as a species. we are coming up as a species. we are coming

up with new ways every day to keep and sustain our way of living. and really do think living. and i really do think you need to be more positive with more positive to with rac a bit more positive to you as a young person, an as great respect to you, to great as respect to you, love to you young person in you as a young person in pakistan, only a few ago pakistan, only a few days ago they had 48.5 degrees kyrees i'm sorry, but we would not survive very long in that heat. you people don't survive- very long in that heat. you people don't survive in- ttig it“ttg “ you people don't survive in that neet. — people don't survive in that neet. t— people don't survive in that heat. i think— people don't survive in that heat. i think more- people don't survive in that heat. people don't survive in that- heat. i think more people die in cold weather, actually. but i take your point and- cold weather, actually. but i take your point and i'll- ti.titti i buti take your point and i'll let the tne — take your point and i'll let the viewers, the viewers, of course, newe — viewers, the viewers, of course, newe newe— viewers, the viewers, of course, newe newe teen— viewers, the viewers, of course, have have been listening and tney-tt— have have been listening and tney-tt-wery— have have been listening and they'll very different they'll have very different eptntens— they'll have very different opinions-of- they'll have very different opinions of this. opinions on all of this. and i rust— opinions on all of this. and i rust tnnt— opinions on all of this. and i just think that— opinions on all of this. and i just think that you should have a just think that you should have e-pestttwe— just think that you should have a positive message because a more positive message because tnere— a more positive message because ttee-tet— a more positive message because tnere-tet et— a more positive message because there-lot of fear— there is a lot of fear nengertng- there is a lot of fear mongering. and i think that is ectuetty— mongering. and i think that is. ectuetty—peepte. actually affecting young people. we actually affecting young people. we-wery— actually affecting young people. we-wery pestttwe- actually affecting young people. j we -very positive message. we have a very positive message. come out and join us every saturday, parliament saturday, 12 pm, parliament square. lovely people. square. we're lovely people. you'll time and you'll have a great time and you'll a sense of purpose you'll have a sense of purpose in your there we go. in your life. there we go. there's the pitch end. new resett— there's the pitch end. new fossil fuels. _ there's the pitch end. new fossil fuels. there's- there's the pitch end. writer c there's the pitch fossil fuels. there's the pitch to fossil fuels. there's the pitch te tne— fossil fuels. there's the pitch to the nation.— fossil fuels. there's the pitch to the nation. thank- c there's the pitch to the nation. thank you very nucn— to the nation. thank you very much indeed.— to the nation. thank you very much indeed. i— to the nation. thank you very much indeed. i really appreciate yeur— much indeed. i really appreciate yew-tnts— much indeed. i really appreciate your this afternoon. your time this afternoon. zoe cenen—ott- cohen, a just stop oil spokesperson let me

spokesperson there who let me knew— spokesperson there who let me tnew wnet— spokesperson there who let me tnew wnet yeu— spokesperson there who let me know what you think about that se— know what you think about that se tect— know what you think about that one. so back to— know what you think about that one. so back to showbiz one. so back to our showbiz stery— one. so back to our showbiz stery et— one. so back to our showbiz stery et tne— one. so back to our showbiz story of the day— one. so back to our showbiz story of the day of the year. rerneps— story of the day of the year.| perhaps—revealed perhaps it has been revealed tnet— perhaps it has been revealed tnet-secret— perhaps it has been revealed that-secret lover- perhaps it has been revealed that secret lover of philip that the secret lover of philip scnettett— that the secret lover of philip schofield-just— that the secret lover of philipi schofield-just-old schofield was just 15 years old wnen— schofield was just 15 years old wnen tney— schofield was just 15 years old wnen tney-et— schofield was just 15 years old when they-at a- schofield was just 15 years old when they at a theatre when they met at a theatre scneet— when they met at a theatre scneet-tne- when they met at a theatre school the former school where the former itv presenter— school where the former itv presenter was— school where the former itv presenter was giving talk . itv presenter was giving a talk. itv net— presenter was giving a talk. itv net tentet— presenter was giving a talk. itv had denied they— presenter was giving a talk. itv had denied they had any evidence of had denied they had any evidence et sucn— had denied they had any evidence of such relationship— had denied they had any evidence of such relationship between anne— of such relationship between anne schofield _ of such relationship between anne schofield and a, in quotes, nucn— anne schofield and a, in quotes, nucn yeunger— anne schofield and a, in quotes, much younger staff member when it much younger staff member when tt ttrst— much younger staff member when it first investigated. what it first investigated. then what wes-tn— it first investigated. then what wes-tn mee- it first investigated. then what was in 2020? now now it first investigated. then what- was-in 2020? now now an was a rumour in 2020? now now an tntustry— was a rumour in 2020? now now an tntustry tnstter— was a rumour in 2020? now now an industry insider has— was a rumour in 2020? now now an industry insider has suggested to industry insider has suggested te us— industry insider has suggested te us tnet— industry insider has suggested to us that this— industry insider has suggested to us that this morning could be exet— to us that this morning could be axed altogether.— to us that this morning could be axed altogether. so with me to ttscuss— axed altogether. so with me to ttscuss tnts— axed altogether. so with me to discuss this, bring us up to tete— discuss this, bring us up to tete .— discuss this, bring us up to tete . get— discuss this, bring us up to date , get her— discuss this, bring us up to date , get her hot. take showbiz date, get her hot. take showbiz ernrneneerctt— date, get her hot. take showbiz commentator sarah louise tetettsen— commentator sarah louise robertson joins— commentator sarah louise robertson joins me now . sarah robertson joins me now. sarah teutse— robertson joins me now. sarah teutse. tnent— robertson joins me now. sarah louise, thank you _ robertson joins me now. sarah louise, thank you very much tnteet. — louise, thank you very much tnteet. wew.— louise, thank you very much indeed. now, there are so many guesttens— indeed. now, there are so many guesttens te— indeed. now, there are so many questions to be— indeed. now, there are so many questions to be asked, but what i'm interested— questions to be asked, but what i'm interested in— questions to be asked, but what i'm interested in is— questions to be asked, but what i'm interested in is was is it nes— i'm interested in is was is it nes tnere— i'm interested in is was is it has there been— i'm interested in is was is it has there been a- i'm interested in is was is it has there been a massive , has there been a massive, massive cover— has there been a massive, massive cover up ? massive cover up? well, this is what people are asking, emily. this is what journalists are trying to find out because this really does stink of a cover up. i've been speaking to some former employees at the show who

have been relaying to me that there has been a bit of a toxic culture going on from from behind the scenes. that's obviously people viewpoints. but itv have come back fighting with from this. they're denying that anything has been going on. they claim that they put these allegations which they at the time called just malicious rumours to philip and philip as we now know, lied. and they're saying that he told them categorically it was untrue and that the runner in question, who philip was having a relationship with , also denied it. however with, also denied it. however there are questions about this because a point that hasn't been picked up yet is that that runner who philip was in a relationship with, as we know now, was also working at for philip over at dancing on ice, which holly willoughby presents with philip as well . so he was with philip as well. so he was working across both shows . so it working across both shows. so it wasn't just this morning . that wasn't just this morning. that in itself should raise questions as to why was he being promoted?

why was he coming on stage at junior member of staff at the national television awards when they won an award back in 2018 and was on stage with all the main presenters? and this morning talent team that that and people haven't pointed this out yet, but that in itself raises questions. martin frizell, the head of this morning , he was on that stage as morning, he was on that stage as well. he would have seen him, surely. he would have been saying, why is a junior member of staff stood up on stage behind philip and holly and with ruth langsford as well . this ruth langsford as well. this just so much going on that that we are not being told and the pubuc we are not being told and the public aren't stupid. they're asking questions as well and saying , look, come on, all these saying, look, come on, all these people must have known you can't hide something like this when it's going on behind the scenes . no morning prides itself family , a family. you know, family, a family. you know, holly and phil was socialising off screen , going on holidays, off screen, going on holidays, having barbecues at each other's

houses, putting pictures of up on their instagram of them in hot tubs together. come on. you're telling me that you don't know some thing like this? it just does not sit right. and nadine dorries, the former culture secretary, she's come out today and said there needs to be a probe and an investigation. dennis me there you go. so this is go away. so politicians are getting involved in this now. they've been asked tnetr— in this now. they've been asked tnetr wew— in this now. they've been asked their view and— in this now. they've been asked their view and they're - “ they've been asked their view and they're very much gtwtng— their view and they're very much gtwtng rt.— their view and they're very much gtwtng tt. seren— their view and they're very much giving it. sarah louise, just wery— giving it. sarah louise, just wery gutctty— giving it. sarah louise, just wery gutctty .— giving it. sarah louise, just very quickly , i've seen a few very quickly, i've seen a few commentators— very quickly, i've seen a few commentators saying this on twttter— commentators saying this on twttter ent— commentators saying this on twitter and on— commentators saying this on twitter and on social media who neppen— twitter and on social media who neppen te— twitter and on social media who neppen te te— twitter and on social media who neppen te te gey— twitter and on social media who happen to be gay themselves is seytng— happen to be gay themselves is seytng tnet— happen to be gay themselves is seytng tnet tne— happen to be gay themselves is saying that the coming out stery.— saying that the coming out stery. we— saying that the coming out stery. we ett— saying that the coming out story, we all saw it. he was on tne— story, we all saw it. he was on tne sete— story, we all saw it. he was on tne sete. ne— story, we all saw it. he was on the sofa. he came— story, we all saw it. he was on the sofa. he came out. everyone tnere— the sofa. he came out. everyone tnere es— the sofa. he came out. everyone there was lots— the sofa. he came out. everyone there was lots of— the sofa. he came out. everyone there was lots of thunderous suppen— there was lots of thunderous suppen ter— there was lots of thunderous support for him _ there was lots of thunderous support for him and it was all gusntng.— support for him and it was all gusntng. on— support for him and it was all gushing. oh phil,— support for him and it was all gushing. oh phil, it's so great yeue— gushing. oh phil, it's so great yeue centng— gushing. oh phil, it's so great you're coming out as gay after all you're coming out as gay after ett-yeers. — you're coming out as gay after all-years. blah,- you're coming out as gay after all years. blah, blah, all these years. blah, blah, tten— all these years. blah, blah, tten .— all these years. blah, blah, tten . tten— all these years. blah, blah, blah , blah, blah. could it be blah, blah, blah. could it be sett— blah, blah, blah. could it be sett-tnet— blah, blah, blah. could it be said-that was- blah, blah, blah. could it be said-that was a- blah, blah, blah. could it be said that was a bit of said that that was a bit of a ttstrectten— said that that was a bit of a distraction from _ said that that was a bit of a distraction from the fact that he distraction from the fact that ne net — distraction from the fact that ne net-tnts— distraction from the fact that he had this inappropriate he had had this inappropriate retettensntp— he had had this inappropriate relationship with this young man

7 relationship with this young man e wett— relationship with this young man e wett. tt— relationship with this young man ? well, it starting— relationship with this young man ? well, it starting to- relationship with this young man ? well, it starting to look like that, isn't it, emily? because at the time people were saying, well , it's not a at the time people were saying, well, it's not a big deal. why why is he having to do this big coming out? what suddenly prompted it? there was questions being asked and the public aren't stupid. they were asking those questions as well. they were saying this is not you know, we're in 2020 now. no one cares if you're gay or not. it's not a big deal. it's not an issue. why are we having to have this fanfare and everyone coming out and saying, oh, you're so brave and what have you, so that in itself was raising questions aboutis in itself was raising questions about is there more to this than meets the eye? is there something that we're not being told yet that he's having to do this and of course, this in itself prompts rumours and unsubstantiated allegations . but unsubstantiated allegations. but this has been going on, as we know, since that time. and your colleague , dan wootton, he he's colleague, dan wootton, he he's come out himself and said that he put the questions to itv back

in 2019 and they were denied categorically by the channel. so this is four years, four years this is four years, four years this has been happening . and i this has been happening. and i think they thought that they'd brushed it under the carpet when phil left the show , when it was phil left the show, when it was coming out that phil and holly weren't getting on very well. and things weren't right between them and now we are where we are today. i mean, itv , sarah today. i mean, itv, sarah louise, itv must be well, the management must be in a state of disarray. they must be bricking it. disarray. they must be bricking tt. trentty— disarray. they must be bricking tt. trentty. t— disarray. they must be bricking it. frankly, i said— disarray. they must be bricking it. frankly, i said that- ti they must be bricking it. frankly, i said that at the top— it. frankly, i said that at the tep et— it. frankly, i said that at the tep et tne— it. frankly, i said that at the top of the show,— it. frankly, i said that at the top of the show, but i think it must— top of the show, but i think it must te— top of the show, but i think it must be true. _ top of the show, but i think it must be true. it— top of the show, but i think it must be true. it must be etsetute— must be true. it must be absolute chaos. thank you very nucn— absolute chaos. thank you very nucn tnteet— absolute chaos. thank you very much indeed, louise taking much indeed, sarah louise taking us-tnere.— much indeed, sarah louise taking us-there. sarah- much indeed, sarah louise taking us there. sarah louise us through there. sarah louise tetettsen— us through there. sarah louise robertson, commentator. us through there. sarah louise robertson, right. commentator. us through there. sarah louise robertson, right. we'renentator. us through there. sarah louise robertson, right. we'renentatto what drama right. we're going to ttntsn—wery- finish on something very tttterent— finish on something very different indeed. the home etttce— different indeed. the home etttce ts— different indeed. the home office is launching ad office is launching an ad cenpetgn— office is launching an ad campaign aimed deterring campaign aimed at deterring ettun—treni album indian nationals from nettng— album indian nationals from making crossings the making channel crossings the ettens— making channel crossings the adverts,-will_ making channel crossings the adverts,-will run- making channel crossings the adverts, will run in adverts, which will run in attenten— adverts, which will run in albanian on— adverts, which will run in albanian on facebook and tnstegren — albanian on facebook and tnstegren .— albanian on facebook and instagram , will have the message instagram, will have the message that instagram, will have the message tnet peepte— instagram, will have the message tnet peepte tece— instagram, will have the message that people face being detained and that people face being detained ent-tt— that people face being detained ent-rt tney— that people face being detained and-if they make- that people face being detained and if they make the and removed if they make the reurney— and removed if they make the reurney ewer— and removed if they make the journey over here. _ and removed if they make the journey over here. the home etttce— journey over here. the home

etttce sey— journey over here. the home office say albania is a safe and prespereus— office say albania is a safe and prosperous country— office say albania is a safe and prosperous country and many nettenets— prosperous country and many nettenets ee— prosperous country and many nationals are travelling through nutttpte— nationals are travelling through multiple—make- nationals are travelling through multiple make the multiple countries to make the reurney— multiple countries to make the reurney-trt— multiple countries to make the journey-uk before- multiple countries to make the journey uk before making journey to the uk before making spurteus— journey to the uk before making spurious asylum _ journey to the uk before making spurious asylum claims when they se— spurious asylum claims when they se t— spurious asylum claims when they arrive. so i have— spurious asylum claims when they arrive. so i have olivia utley en — arrive. so i have olivia utley en wews— arrive. so i have olivia utley gb news political reporter here in gb news political reporter here tn tne— gb news political reporter here tn tne stutte— gb news political reporter here in the studio to— gb news political reporter here in the studio to bring us up to we — in the studio to bring us up to we wew.— in the studio to bring us up to date. now, there— in the studio to bring us up to date. now, there are a few tntngs— date. now, there are a few tntngs nere— date. now, there are a few things here, aren't there? well, i'll things here, aren't there? well, ttt tet— things here, aren't there? well, ttt tet yeu— things here, aren't there? well, ttt tet yeu ge— things here, aren't there? well, i'll let you go ahead and tell me— i'll let you go ahead and tell me tne— i'll let you go ahead and tell me tne stery.— i'll let you go ahead and tell me the story. well, i mean, essenttetty— me the story. well, i mean, essentially, ali,— me the story. well, i mean, essentially, ali, it's very essentially, ali, it's all very wett— well creating campaigns like tnts— well creating campaigns like ttts—tnen- well creating campaigns like this—them on. this and running them on attenten— this and running them on albanian social media. but ectuetty.— albanian social media. but actually, although albanians did make majority of migrants make up the majority of migrants coming over here in small boats at beginning of last year by at the beginning of last year by the last year, when the the end of last year, when the government that returns government agreed that returns plan with the albanian prime minister, meant that anyone minister, that meant that anyone who came from albania was deported and didn't deported immediately and didn't go asylum checking go through the asylum checking process. actually only process. albanians actually only made made up 16% of the people coming here on small boats. so this feels a little bit like a nice idea, which has come far too late. yes. and the issue is , yes, we have the government has managed to bring down the number of albanian migrants

coming over here in small boats. but the overall numbers, as we keep seeing, just keep going up. and this book, what this and i think this book, what this really shows just the scale really shows is just the scale of problem the government of the problem the government has hands. you solve one has on its hands. you solve one problem and another one just just crops up in its place. well, yes, because, as you say, the numbers of albanians actually making route has actually making that route has nosedived dramatically. yes. yeah, but replacing them. yeah, but but replacing them. there are lots and lots of indians over here. are indians coming over here. are they to do the same in they going to do the same in india? it always feels like india? so it always feels like the government is sort of playing catch with this playing catch up with this problem the of the problem that the nub of the issue that there is an issue is that there is an unlimited number people who unlimited number of people who would come to britain to would like to come to britain to seek a better life, which perhaps is something we should be proud but just shows be proud of. but it just shows what problem rishi sunak what a big problem rishi sunak is solve. and of is, is trying to solve. and of course, he's staked his reputation prime minister on reputation as prime minister on fixing small boats problem . fixing the small boats problem. he says again and again and he says it again and again and again. very much so. and he's making little which making these little steps, which all of them are sort of fine and do make a little dent in the

problem. but they're just not it's not the bigger picture. well, let's see what our it's not the bigger picture. - well, let's see what our viewers tnnt— well, let's see what our viewers tntnt eteut— well, let's see what our viewers think about that— well, let's see what our viewers think about that one. please do get tn— think about that one. please do get tn tewn.— think about that one. please do get in touch.-want- think about that one. please do get in touch. want to know if get in touch. we want to know if you— get in touch. we want to know if yeu tnnt— get in touch. we want to know if yeu tntnt tnet— get in touch. we want to know if you think that work. you you think that will work. you newe.— you think that will work. you newe-teen- you think that will work. you have, been watching you think that will work. you havelistening been watching you think that will work. you havelistening to been watching you think that will work. you havelistening to bee newsching you think that will work. you havelistening to bee news sunday and listening to gb news sunday that and listening to gb news sunday tnet-wette— and listening to gb news sunday tnet-wewe get— and listening to gb news sunday that we've got time for, that is all we've got time for, setty. — that is all we've got time for, setty. tnent— that is all we've got time for, sadly. thank you— that is all we've got time for, sadly. thank you very much for retntng— sadly. thank you very much for joining-afternoon.- joining me this afternoon. rteese— joining me this afternoon. please don't— joining me this afternoon. please don't go anywhere, tneugn— please don't go anywhere, though,-nana,. please don't go anywhere,- though,-nana,.course, though, because nana, of course, is though, because nana, of course, ts-nut— though, because nana, of course, ts-nut ttrst.— though, because nana, of course, is-but first, before- is up next. but first, before ner— is up next. but first, before ner stew.— is up next. but first, before her show, let's— is up next. but first, before her show, let's take a look at tne— her show, let's take a look at the—jonathan. i the weather with jonathan. nette— the weather with jonathan. nets-ttnt— the weather with jonathan. hello-i'm jonathan. hello there. i'm jonathan vautrey your latest gb vautrey here of your latest gb news forecast provided vautrey here of your latest gb ne the forecast provided vautrey here of your latest gb ne the metaphors. cast provided vautrey here of your latest gb ne the metaphors. iist provided vautrey here of your latest gb ne the metaphors. i hopeivided vautrey here of your latest gb ne the metaphors. i hope you've by the metaphors. i hope you've been enjoying long weekend been enjoying the long weekend so there a lot of so far. there has been a lot of fine weather around thanks to high pressure that's been with us with us us and is staying with us throughout sunday us and is staying with us thro into ut sunday us and is staying with us thro into monday sunday us and is staying with us thro into monday as sunday us and is staying with us thro into monday as well. iday us and is staying with us thro into monday as well. whilst and into monday as well. whilst it's staying largely dry, we do just this slight in just have this slight squeeze in the across the southern the isobars across the southern half breeze is half of the uk. so the breeze is going be strengthening going to be strengthening throughout this evening and overnight. so just just overnight. so just do just be aware if you're camping out aware if you're out camping out here elsewhere, cloud here elsewhere, the cloud will be melting throughout the be melting away throughout the night see a good night and we'll see a good number of intervals number of clear intervals developing allow developing that will allow temperatures just off temperatures to just drop off ever so slightly overnight. most towns cities will be down in

towns and cities will be down in single figures. but there the single figures. but there is the risk a patchy frost for risk of a patchy rural frost for parts northern england, parts of northern england, northern ireland and scotland as well . despite that slightly well. despite that slightly cool, chilly start though, there will a number of sunny will be a good number of sunny intervals as we kick off the bank holiday monday we'll bank holiday monday and we'll retain that sunshine as we head throughout as well. some throughout the day as well. some wispy throughout the day as well. some wis|sunshine hazier in places , the sunshine hazier in places, but that thin cloud is not going to protect your skin from the high uv levels that will be around the so do around throughout the day. so do make thinking about make sure you're thinking about some skin protection, feeling a bit coastal some skin protection, feeling a bit with coastal some skin protection, feeling a bit with that coastal some skin protection, feeling a bit with that breeze, coastal some skin protection, feeling a bit with that breeze, butstal areas. with that breeze, but generally degrees feeling generally 20 degrees and feeling warm head further west warm as you head further west into the overnight period. again, we'll see largely clear skies. so temperatures will be dropping off once again. the risk of that patchy frost is going to be the northern areas of scotland where we'll stay cloudiest into cloudiest as we head into tuesday. perhaps the odd spot of drizzle of shetland, drizzle for parts of shetland, but it will be staying but elsewhere it will be staying dry once and a good dry once again. and a good amount of sunshine if you are still heading outside. just a bit of cloud floating its way in omicron areas.

omicron eastern coastal areas. high is staying with us high pressure is staying with us as head throughout the rest as we head throughout the rest of but as winds move of the week. but as winds move in a clockwise direction around this, going to be this, we're still going to be feeding easterly north feeding in that easterly north easterly breeze with cloud potentially just pushing into eastern throughout the eastern areas throughout the week. generally, west week. so generally, west is going to be best for those temperatures .

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