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following a house fire in pembrokeshire despite the efforts of emergency services. alicia salisbury passed away at the scene of the blaze in the ponty glacier area last night. her family, who described her as a beautiful daughter and sister , are being supported by specialist officers. the force says it's working to establish the cause . the government is the cause. the government is launching an ad campaign to stop people from crossing the channel the advert set to be circulated in albania next week, will warn people they face being detained and removed if they make the journey. critics have already branded it as pointless, saying it won't deter them. a record number of people made the crossing in small boats last year and more than 6000 have been intercepted so far this yeah been intercepted so far this year. meanwhile labour says it would impose time limits on hiring overseas workers in a bid to kerb migration. the shadow home secretary, yvette cooper , home secretary, yvette cooper, has told the sunday telegraph it would serve as an incentive to

train british workers. she also suggested that the party would ask the migration advisory committee for appropriate timescales for importing . labour timescales for importing. labour supermarkets could be asked to introduce a price cap on basic food to help struggling households . the government is households. the government is reportedly drawing up plans suggesting the move. but a treasury source told the sunday telegraph it would be voluntary . the scheme would see retailers charging the lowest possible amount for products like bread and milk. food prices , which are and milk. food prices, which are expected to keep rising, have increased by 19.1% in the year to march , much to just stop oil to march, much to just stop oil protesters have been charged after disrupting the mar—a—lago premiership rugby final at twickenham . cody gakpo . 37 year twickenham. cody gakpo. 37 year old doctor patrick hart from bristol and 40 year old sam johnson from essex ran onto the pitch and threw orange powder onto the field . play was onto the field. play was suspended as the men were

escorted from the stadium. they've been charged with aggravated trespass . and aggravated trespass. and finally, mars bars are going green, with the company upgrading its packaging to be more environmentally friendly. the wrapper is being switched from plastic to paper as part of a pilot scheme. the moves being introduced as mars explores different options which protect the integrity of the chocolate bars. this is gb news. we'll bnng bars. this is gb news. we'll bring you more news as it happens. now it's back to nana . happens. now it's back to nana. so good afternoon. if you've just joined me, welcome on bonni— just joined me, welcome on bong-insi— just joined me, welcome on board. fast approaching . board. it's fast approaching. iiwo— board. it's fast approaching. five minutes— board. it's fast approaching. five minutes after 3:00. this is a five minutes after 3:00. this is o oo— five minutes after 3:00. this is n on wows— five minutes after 3:00. this is n on news on— five minutes after 3:00. this is a gb news on tv,— five minutes after 3:00. this is a gb news on tv, online and on iigiioi— a gb news on tv, online and on oigiioi noiio. — a gb news on tv, online and on digital radio. i'm— a gb news on tv, online and on digital radio. i'm nana akua now , onions— digital radio. i'm nana akua now , ioiono wo— digital radio. i'm nana akua now , before we goi— digital radio. i'm nana akua now , before we get stuck into our noni— , before we get stuck into our new nong— , before we get stuck into our head head, let— , before we get stuck into our head head, let me introduce you to head head, let me introduce you io ny— head head, let me introduce you io my oonoi— head head, let me introduce you io my gonoi. so— head head, let me introduce you to my panel. so joining me today is owinon—

to my panel. so joining me today is owinon oni— to my panel. so joining me today is author and broadcaster amy wionoii. — is author and broadcaster amy nicholl. hello.— is author and broadcaster amy nicholl. hello. and also former snowi— nicholl. hello. and also former nnoxii inw— nicholl. hello. and also former brexit party mep— nicholl. hello. and also former brexit party mep ben habib. good igni— brexit party mep ben habib. good nigni 7— brexit party mep ben habib. good nigni ownin— brexit party mep ben habib. good right .7 well, they'll be going right.7 well, they'll be going noni— right.7 well, they'll be going nooi io— right.7 well, they'll be going head to head— right.7 well, they'll be going head to head in— right.7 well, they'll be going head to head in a clash of great minis— head to head in a clash of great minds owi— head to head in a clash of great minds, but let's— head to head in a clash of great minds, but let's see what else is coming— minds, but let's see what else is coming up— minds, but let's see what else is coming up today. right. so the is coming up today. right. so ino soonoi— is coming up today. right. so the secret lover— is coming up today. right. so the secret lover of phillip sonoiioii— the secret lover of phillip schofield has— the secret lover of phillip schofield has reportedly just 15 wnon— schofield has reportedly just 15 wnon-noi— schofield has reportedly just 15 when-met-theatre- when they met at a theatre sonooi— when they met at a theatre school when _ when they met at a theatre school when the former itv nosonion— school when the former itv presenter was— school when the former itv presenter was giving a talk. now an presenter was giving a talk. now on insiion— presenter was giving a talk. now an insider has— presenter was giving a talk. now an insider has told— presenter was giving a talk. now an insider has told gb news that itv an insider has told gb news that iiv—sowo- an insider has told gb news that iiv—sowo ino| itv have seven days to save the snow— itv have seven days to save the snow .— itv have seven days to save the snow . owi— itv have seven days to save the snow . nwi ino— itv have seven days to save the show . but the broadcaster has show. but the broadcaster has oiso— show. but the broadcaster has oiso soii— show. but the broadcaster has also said the— show. but the broadcaster has also said the programme will air as also said the programme will air osonnonow-i— also said the programme will air as tomorrow morning. but as usual tomorrow morning. but nowo— as usual tomorrow morning. but nowo wow— as usual tomorrow morning. but nowo wow noi— as usual tomorrow morning. but have you had your— as usual tomorrow morning. but have you had your fill of this soonioii— have you had your fill of this scandal? pardon— have you had your fill of this scandal? pardon the pun then. ioisni— scandal? pardon the pun then. ioisni swnow— scandal? pardon the pun then. rishi sunak will— scandal? pardon the pun then. rishi sunak will urge supermarkets to cap basic food nnioos— supermarkets to cap basic food nnioos io— supermarkets to cap basic food nioos io noin— supermarkets to cap basic food prices to help tackle the cost of prices to help tackle the cost oi iiwing— prices to help tackle the cost of living crisis. _ prices to help tackle the cost of living crisis. should the gowonnnoni— of living crisis. should the government implement french siwio— government implement french siwio nico— government implement french style price controls. shadow wooiin— style price controls. shadow health secretary wes streeting sis. — health secretary wes streeting sis. -iioii- health secretary wes streeting sis-moi on- health secretary wes streeting sps. mail on sunday sps. in today's mail on sunday nowoosi— sps. in today's mail on sunday ooois ino— sps. in today's mail on sunday reveals the real— sps. in today's mail on sunday reveals the real reason immigration- reveals the real reason immigration is out of control is the immigration is out of control is ino ioiow— immigration is out of control is the labour party.— immigration is out of control is the labour party. the new low innigniion— the labour party. the new low immigration party right? the war in iiinoino— immigration party right? the war in ukraine continues as russia connoi— in ukraine continues as russia oonioi owi— in ukraine continues as russia carried out the— in ukraine continues as russia carried out the largest drone oiiooi— carried out the largest drone oiiooi on— carried out the largest drone attack on the— carried out the largest drone attack on the city of kyiv owonnigni— attack on the city of kyiv owonnigni .— attack on the city of kyiv overnight . it.— attack on the city of kyiv overnight . it. but has the

attack on the city of kyiv overnight. it. but has the uk nooonoi— overnight. it. but has the uk nooonoi iis— overnight. it. but has the uk reached its geopolitical goals? ani— reached its geopolitical goals? ani snowii— reached its geopolitical goals? and should we— reached its geopolitical goals? and should we continue to swoon— and should we continue to support ukraine? and then more inan— support ukraine? and then more in non— support ukraine? and then more in noii oi— support ukraine? and then more than half of voters— support ukraine? and then more than half of voters now want iniioin— than half of voters now want iniioin io— than half of voters now want britain to forge— than half of voters now want britain to forge closer ties wiin — britain to forge closer ties wiin ino — britain to forge closer ties with the eu.— britain to forge closer ties with the eu. that's according to the with the eu. that's according to ino no— with the eu. that's according to ino noii. — with the eu. that's according to ino goii. ow— with the eu. that's according to the new poll. by focal dna or ioooiioio— the new poll. by focal dna or focaldata or— the new poll. by focal dna or focaldata or whatever it is. but you— focaldata or whatever it is. but you know— focaldata or whatever it is. but you know what?— focaldata or whatever it is. but you know what? i— focaldata or whatever it is. but you know what? i read this niooo— you know what? i read this giooo. ii— you know what? i read this giooo. ii ws— you know what? i read this piece. it was in— you know what? i read this piece. it was in the guardian. it piece. it was in the guardian. ii iii— piece. it was in the guardian. it did position— piece. it was in the guardian. it did position itself in a manner that— it did position itself in a manner that would suggest that owowioiw— manner that would suggest that everybody wno — manner that would suggest that everybody who voted to leave did not everybody who voted to leave did noi wani— everybody who voted to leave did not want close— everybody who voted to leave did not want close ties— everybody who voted to leave did not want close ties to the eu. so not want close ties to the eu. so i— not want close ties to the eu. so i-inoi-s— not want close ties to the eu. so i that's slightly so i think that's slightly misleading. _ so i think that's slightly misleading. but what do you ininii— misleading. but what do you think?.should_ misleading. but what do you think? should mend think? so should we mend our noioiionsnio— relationship with brussels? inoi-s—inol relationship with brussels?l that's—the next that's coming up in the next now.— that's coming up in the next noun-no— that's coming up in the next hour. -me what- that's coming up in the next hour. me what you think of hour. tell me what you think of owowining— hour. tell me what you think of everything discussing. everything we're discussing. inoii— everything we're discussing.- moi—non everything we're discussing.- inoii—.oon on email gb views gb news .com or iwooi— email gb views gb news .com or iwooi-oi— email gb views gb news .com or iwooi-oi .— email gb views gb news .com or iwooi-oi . on— email gb views gb news .com or tweet-at . gb news.- email gb views gb news .com or tweet at . gb news. right. so, tweet me at. gb news. right. so, of course , we're— tweet me at. gb news. right. so, of course , we're going head to of course, we're going head to nood— of course, we're going head to now in— of course, we're going head to now in o— of course, we're going head to head in a clash— of course, we're going head to head in a clash of— of course, we're going head to head in a clash of minds. we're going— head in a clash of minds. we're going io— head in a clash of minds. we're going io io— head in a clash of minds. we're going io no going— head in a clash of minds. we're going to be doing that. so let's sini— going to be doing that. so let's sion wiin— going to be doing that. so let's start with more— going to be doing that. so let's start with more revelations oiowi— start with more revelations about phillip— start with more revelations about phillip schofield's affair wiin— about phillip schofield's affair wiinlwowngon— about phillip schofield's affair with younger according with a younger runner. according to with a younger runner. according io—swniow- with a younger runner. according io—swniow ii- with a younger runner. according to_sunday, it has. to the mail on sunday, it has noon— to the mail on sunday, it has noon-inoi- to the mail on sunday, it has been -that the - to the mail on sunday, it has been that the secret been revealed that the secret iowon— been revealed that the secret lover-former- been revealed that the secret lover-former itv- lover of the former itv nosonion— lover of the former itv presenter was- lover of the former itv presenter was just 15 when they noi. — presenter was just 15 when they noi. wow— presenter was just 15 when they noi. wow i— presenter was just 15 when they met. now it reported the meeting iooi— met. now it reported the meeting iooi niooo— met. now it reported the meeting iooi niooo oi— met. now it reported the meeting iooi giooo oi o— met. now it reported the meeting took place at a theatre school wnono— took place at a theatre school where phillip— took place at a theatre school where phillip schofield was

ioiiing— where phillip schofield was talking partner, talking his former partner, tv nonnon— talking his former partner, tv partner willoughby , has partner holly willoughby, has soii— partner holly willoughby, has now said that— partner holly willoughby, has now said that phillip schofield's- now said that phillip schofield's their schofield's admission of their noioiionsnin— schofield's admission of their relationship-very- schofield's admission of their relationship very hurtful. relationship was very hurtful. ani— relationship was very hurtful. and insiders— relationship was very hurtful. and insiders told gb news that itv and insiders told gb news that iiv nos— and insiders told gb news that iiv nos sowon— and insiders told gb news that itv has seven days to save this morning. — itv has seven days to save this morning. that's— itv has seven days to save this morning. that's one week to you oni— morning. that's one week to you and i— morning. that's one week to you and i wnion— morning. that's one week to you and i wnion is— morning. that's one week to you and i, which is actually only iiwo— and i, which is actually only iiwo iows— and i, which is actually only five days because it's only on air iiwo— five days because it's only on air iiwo iows— five days because it's only on air five days a— five days because it's only on air five days a week. but what do wow— air five days a week. but what do you ininii— air five days a week. but what do you think? itv— air five days a week. but what do you think? itv have confirmed inoi— do you think? itv have confirmed inoi ino— do you think? itv have confirmed that the programme will returnj tomorrow—usual tomorrow morning at the usual iino— tomorrow morning at the usual iino-inis— tomorrow morning at the usual time,-this scandal- time, but is this scandal ooiwoiiw— time, but is this scandal actually newsworthy? do you soo.— actually newsworthy? do you care?-me now- actually newsworthy? do you care? - me now to i actually newsworthy? do you. care?-me now to go care? so joining me now to go nood— care? so joining me now to go now io— care? so joining me now to go now io nood— care? so joining me now to go head to head is— care? so joining me now to go head to head is author and broadcaster— head to head is author and broadcaster amy nicholl and also ionno— broadcaster amy nicholl and also ionno ironi— broadcaster amy nicholl and also former brexit party— broadcaster amy nicholl and also former brexit party mep ben noiii. — former brexit party mep ben noiii. onw— former brexit party mep ben habib. amy, i'm— former brexit party mep ben habib. amy, i'm going to come to wow.— habib. amy, i'm going to come to wow. inis— habib. amy, i'm going to come to wow. inis is— habib. amy, i'm going to come to wow. inis is o— habib. amy, i'm going to come to wow. inis is o nig— habib. amy, i'm going to come to you. this is a big scandal everyone's talking about it. i iowo— everyone's talking about it. i iowo inoi— everyone's talking about it. i love that dress,— everyone's talking about it. i love that dress, by the way. is— love that dress, by the way. it's beautiful.— love that dress, by the way. it's beautiful. very nice. what do you— it's beautiful. very nice. what do you ininii— it's beautiful. very nice. what do you think? _ it's beautiful. very nice. what do you think? viii“ i: can g do you think? well, i'd be lying if i said i wasn't interested. i think this has been irresistible gossip, hasn't it? everybody seems to have a story and anecdote about it, and i think it's daytime tv is it's because daytime tv is supposed be squeaky clean. supposed to be squeaky clean. it's meant to be. you know, traybakes and advice about how wives or whatever, and the fact that it could be tainted like

this . and as it unfolds , it's this. and as it unfolds, it's very reminiscent of the wine. steen the wine . stein vibes it's steen the wine. stein vibes it's giving me it's a young , giving me it's a young, impressionable boy who wanted a career in tv , and that is an career in tv, and that is an abuse of power , isn't it? abuse of power, isn't it? because he got his job in tv and then they proceeded to have a relations ship. and i think that's what makes this so stinky. and phillip schofield and he's deceived us all. we all trusted him. he was a safe pair of hands, although he was never that popular. he had average popularity rating of 37% throughout time throughout throughout the time he on the show. but we he was on the show. but we trusted him, didn't we? i didn't like him at all, i— trusted him, didn't we? i didn't like him at all, i think. - : " i: i: " g , i didn't like him at all, i think. 'i: like him at all, i think. and is— like him at all, i think. and is ino— like him at all, i think. and is iio wow— like him at all, i think. and it's the way he— like him at all, i think. and it's the way he managed to convince not only the audience, but his wife and now seemingly his tv partner, holly willoughby. he convinced everyone and we feel deceived . everyone and we feel deceived. and i think that's why. but don't forget, this is gossip. yes, but gossip is good for us. and it bonds people. and yeah, it's been proven gossip has health benefits. i'm taking it

as a positive . depends if you as a positive. depends if you are as a positive. depends if you ino— as a positive. depends if you are the centre— as a positive. depends if you are the centre of— as a positive. depends if you are the centre of that- g depends if you are the centre of that gossip. oh,— are the centre of that gossip. on no— are the centre of that gossip. on noi— are the centre of that gossip. oh, no, not for— are the centre of that gossip. oh, no, not for him. nine oh, no, not for him. not for iii.— oh, no, not for him. not for iiii noi— oh, no, not for him. not for phil, not for him. but oh, no, not for him. “in e " but then you phil, not for him. but then you said— phil, not for him. but then you said no-s— phil, not for him. but then you said he's deceived— e " but then you said he's deceived everybody. he win-i.— said he's deceived everybody. he iiin-i. a— said he's deceived everybody. he iiin-i. a ioi— said he's deceived everybody. he didn't. a lot of— said he's deceived everybody. he didn't. a lot of people around nin— didn't. a lot of people around nin oppon— didn't. a lot of people around nin oggoon io— didn't. a lot of people around him appear to have already known the rumours were going owowwnono.— the rumours were going everywhere. anyway, how inionosiing— everywhere. anyway, how interesting have so much interesting can have so much swow. — interesting can have so much swow. no— interesting can have so much swow. no ini— interesting can have so much sway. he had so— interesting can have so much sway. interesting can have so much. sway. he had so much-over sway. he had so much say over who morning, who who worked at this morning, who got the chop, who the got the chop, who stayed the stars screen. he stars on screen, off screen. he had sway. it was like had so much sway. it was like the absolute leader of that show. and i think that's really intriguing . and what do you intriguing. and what do you inni— intriguing. and what do you iiini- — intriguing. and what do you think,- well,- intriguing. and what do you think,- well, i'ml intriguing. and what do you think, well, i'm i'm think, ben obe? well, i'm i'm gnpped think, ben obe? well, i'm i'm gripped you. i've been struggling over the last few days is days to understand why this is newsworthy all. i mean, it's newsworthy at all. i mean, it's obviously phillip newsworthy at all. i mean, it's ob have ly phillip newsworthy at all. i mean, it's ob have it's phillip newsworthy at all. i mean, it's ob have it's very phillip newsworthy at all. i mean, it's ob have it's very sad phillip newsworthy at all. i mean, it's ob have it's very sad forhillip to have it's very sad for phillip to have his reputation trashed . you know, it is his own trashed. you know, it is his own fault. but i don't think that having an extramarital affair and lying about it is all that unusualin and lying about it is all that unusual in life. granted the boy was 15 when he joined and when he met phillip, but i don't think he joined until a few years later and by the boy's own admission, young man. now the

relationship started when he was in his 20s. so but they both i mean, look, i'm not i'm not casting doubt on what he's saying, but they have both lied, haven't they? when itv initially ognooonoi— haven't they? when itv initially approached them,— haven't they? when itv initially approached them, they- " g sign? when itv initially approached them, they said that iono— approached them, they said that wono—noonio- approached them, they said that wono—ooonio i- approached them, they said that nana people ? phillip nana how many people? phillip has nana how many people? phillip nos—iron — nana how many people? phillip has _from .start,i has been lying from the start, owi— has been lying from the start, on now— has been lying from the start, on now nonw— has been lying from the start, but how many people have extra nonioi— but how many people have extra marital affairs— but how many people have extra marital affairs and— but how many people have extra marital affairs and then blast it marital affairs and then blast ii-nooiion— marital affairs and then blast ii-nooiion in- marital affairs and then blast it rooftop in order for it from the rooftop in order for the it from the rooftop in order for ino iniogniw— it from the rooftop in order for the integrity their position the integrity of their position to.maintained?- the integrity of their position to.maintained? - the integrity of their position to maintained? g to be maintained? itjust ioosn-i—isl to be maintained? itjusti doesn't—is an to be maintained? it just doesn't is an age doesn't happen. this is an age old story, that unfortunate for the protagonist antagonists in this in this particular story is unfolded in the public domain . unfolded in the public domain. but what staggers me really, i think the real story here is that the british public, if all the airtime it's getting, is reflective of their interest in it, can be so interested in something. so irrelevant that doesn't really impact anyone's lives. i don't you know what i inini— lives. i don't you know what i think there's— lives. i don't you know what i think there's a— lives. i don't you know what i think there's a level- e i don't you know what i think there's a level of it that i think there's a level of it that i inini— think there's a level of it that i inini is— think there's a level of it that i inini is o— think there's a level of it that i think is a bit— think there's a level of it that i think is a bit overkill, but inono— i think is a bit overkill, but inono is— i think is a bit overkill, but inono is o— i think is a bit overkill, but there is a level— i think is a bit overkill, but there is a level of it that is noiowoni— there is a level of it that is relevant and— there is a level of it that is relevant and the- there is a level of it that is relevant and the level of what's the relevant and the level of what's ino noiowoni— relevant and the level of what's the relevant relevance to me is inoi— the relevant relevance to me is no sonoioiw— the relevant relevance to me is that somebody in— the relevant relevance to me is that somebody in a senior posiiion— that somebody in a senior nosiiion oon— that somebody in a senior position can use that position

in ions— position can use that position in ionns oi— position can use that position in terms of an— position can use that position in terms of an abuse of power oni— in terms of an abuse of power and iiionoiiw— in terms of an abuse of power and literally, know, put and literally, you know, put a young— and literally, you know, put a young noson— and literally, you know, put a young person. but young young person. but is the young ono-osioi- young person. but is the young ono-osioi no- young person. but is the young one-asked me a- one sorry, you asked me a gwosiion— one sorry, you asked me a question-hold- one sorry, you asked me a question. hold on, amy. question. sorry. hold on, amy. owi— question. sorry. hold on, amy. iii—on.- question. sorry. hold on, amy. iii—on. sonny- question. sorry. hold on, amy. but—on. sorry you| but is he. hang on. sorry you osioi— but is he. hang on. sorry you osioi no— but is he. hang on. sorry you osioi no o— but is he. hang on. sorry you asked me a question. i'll finish asked me a question. i'll finiin my asked me a question. i'll finish nw-ioiono— asked me a question. i'll finish nw-ioiono wow- asked me a question. i'll finish my before you both talk my answer before you both talk owon-iigni— my answer before you both talk over-right.now- my answer before you both talk over right now what i'm over me. right so now what i'm sowing— over me. right so now what i'm sowing-is— over me. right so now what i'm sowing-is in— over me. right so now what i'm saying-is inlsense,- over me. right so now what i'm saying is in sense, it's saying is it is in a sense, it's ino— saying is it is in a sense, it's ino oiwso— saying is it is in a sense, it's ino oiwso oi— saying is it is in a sense, it's the abuse of power. and that is, i the abuse of power. and that is, i inni— the abuse of power. and that is, i gig, ino— the abuse of power. and that is, i think, the ultimate crux of it, i think, the ultimate crux of ii iii— i think, the ultimate crux of ii iii oiso— i think, the ultimate crux of it, but also because phillip sonoiioii— it, but also because phillip schofield has— it, but also because phillip schofield has lied on so many occasions—came. occasions. i mean, he came out as gow— occasions. i mean, he came out as gowlno-i— occasions. i mean, he came out as gowlno-i noon— occasions. i mean, he came out as gay, he'd been lying to as gay, so he'd been lying to his as gay, so he'd been lying to nis wiio— as gay, so he'd been lying to his wife initially— as gay, so he'd been lying to his wife initially if rumours wono—inoil his wife initially if rumours. were _that she were to be believed that she iiin-i— were to be believed that she iiin-i-i— were to be believed that she didn't-i thought- were to be believed that she didn't i thought he was didn't know. i thought he was gay— didn't know. i thought he was gay anyway-— didn't know. i thought he was gay anyway- i_ didn't know. i thought he was gay anyway. i mean, i'm just sowing— gay anyway. i mean, i'm just sowing-wnoi- gay anyway. i mean, i'm just saying what thought. saying that's what i thought. inoi-s— saying that's what i thought. that's-thought. - saying that's what i thought. that's thought. i thought that's what i thought. i thought he that's what i thought. i thought no-wnon— that's what i thought. i thought he-when.said- he was. so when he said it, i iiowgii— he was. so when he said it, i thought, what's— he was. so when he said it, i thought, what's nick already gay anyway?— thought, what's nick already gay anyway? so— thought, what's nick already gay anyway? so no— thought, what's nick already gay anyway? so he lied to his wife. ani— anyway? so he lied to his wife. and—ino- anyway? so he lied to his wife. and—ino goio- anyway? so he lied to his wife. l and _the gate thing and then they did the gate thing wnono— and then they did the gate thing wnono inow— and then they did the gate thing where they jumped the queue, wnion— which was rather unsavoury oonsiionng— considering there's supposed to be considering there's supposed to io—ani- considering there's supposed to io—ani inowi be be squeaky clean. and they did be be squeaky clean. and they iiilion— be be squeaky clean. and they iiilion ino— be be squeaky clean. and they did for the benefit of those did it for the benefit of those wno— did it for the benefit of those who couldn't— did it for the benefit of those who couldn't go. _ did it for the benefit of those who couldn't go. very nice of woiiw. — who couldn't go. very nice of woiiw. -inis- who couldn't go. very nice of holly. -this this- who couldn't go. very nice of holly. this this final holly. and then this this final inoiioni— holly. and then this this final incisions-is— holly. and then this this final incident, is everybody incident, which is everybody knows— incident, which is everybody inoswo— - incident, which is everybody- knows_we completely knows about now, we completely i inini— knows about now, we completely i inini ii-s— knows about now, we completely i inini is on— knows about now, we completely i think it's an insight— knows about now, we completely i think it's an insight into the way— think it's an insight into the wow-ino— think it's an insight into the way the entertainment way tv and the entertainment iniwsiw—i- industry can work. and i noiwniiw— industry can work. and i actually wouldn't surprised actually wouldn't be surprised if a bit of a metoo if this prompts a bit of a metoo moment because think there's

moment because i think there's a lot of people that's a lot of innuendo people work lot of people that's a lot of inientertainmentieople work lot of people that's a lot of inientertainment who e work lot of people that's a lot of inientertainment who have work lot of people that's a lot of inientertainment who have been( in entertainment who have been in entertainment who have been in these situations where they've relationships they've got into relationships to screen. but they've got into relationships to young screen. but they've got into relationships to young man screen. but they've got into relationships to young man is screen. but they've got into relationships to young man is notaen. but they've got into relationships to young man is not this but they've got into relationships to young man is not this boy. the young man is not this boy. that's what. he's not that's what. but he's not complaining. he's not haven't complaining. he's not we haven't heard believe we heard from him. i believe we have. his lawyers have made a iooionoiion— have. his lawyers have made a declaration that— his lawyers have made a declaration that actually he noio— declaration that actually he made relationship made retains no relationship sionoi— made retains no relationship started when— made retains no relationship started when he— made retains no relationship started when he was under age. it started when he was under age. ii oii— started when he was under age. ii oii nopnonoi— started when he was under age. it all happened later. his iowwons— it all happened later. his iowwons-ion- it all happened later. his- lawyers-foriphillip lawyers were paid for by phillip sonoiioii.— lawyers were paid for by phillip schofield. -short- lawyers were paid for by phillip schofield. short sighted schofield. really short sighted ining— schofield. really short sighted thing -schofield - schofield. really short sighted thing schofield to thing for phillip schofield to nowo—no- thing for phillip schofield to- have_he empowered have done because he empowered the have done because he empowered ino-nowo— have done because he empowered the-have third— have done because he empowered the-have third party- the boy to have third party oiwioo— the boy to have third party oiwioo .— the boy to have third party advice . dodi,_ the boy to have third party advice . dodi, thought he was advice. dodi, who thought he was ooninoiiing — advice. dodi, who thought he was ooninoiiing ii.— advice. dodi, who thought he was controlling it. actually controlling it. and actually wnoi—ioio- controlling it. and actually what—take the. controlling it. and actually. what—take the lid controlling it. and actually- what—take the lid off what he did was take the lid off it. what he did was take the lid off i. owi— what he did was take the lid off ii. iii ino— what he did was take the lid off it. but the point— what he did was take the lid off it. but the point is— what he did was take the lid off it. but the point is there has to it. but the point is there has io io— it. but the point is there has io no, i— it. but the point is there has to be, i think— it. but the point is there has to be, i think it's— it. but the point is there has to be, i think it's really wrong to be, i think it's really wrong io inniw— to be, i think it's really wrong io imply inoi— to be, i think it's really wrong to imply that there's some kind of to imply that there's some kind oi grooming.— to imply that there's some kind of grooming. there may have been grooming,— of grooming. there may have been gnooning, ini— of grooming. there may have been grooming, but there's no swggosiion— grooming, but there's no suggestion from the young man insi— suggestion from the young man inoi inono-s— suggestion from the young man that there's been— suggestion from the young man that there's been grooming going onlinoi— that there's been grooming going onlinoi ii— that there's been grooming going onlinoi ii ws— that there's been grooming going onlthat it was an— that there's been grooming going on that it was an abusive on or that it was an abusive noioiionsnin— on or that it was an abusive relationship .— on or that it was an abusive relationship . why do you think relationship. why do you think it relationship. why do you think ii is— relationship. why do you think i is on— relationship. why do you think it is an abuse— relationship. why do you think it is an abuse of— relationship. why do you think it is an abuse of power? “4115 it is an abuse of power? yes, because— it is an abuse of power? yes, because ino— it is an abuse of power? yes, because the fact— it is an abuse of power? yes, because the fact is- it is an abuse of power? yes, because the fact is that the boy had to leave the show. and a lot of have said that the of sources have said that the boy was very distressed and put out. and we don't know the

dynamics. if you're having a relationship, don't know. relationship, but we don't know. but amy, you just said we don't know. — but amy, you just said we don't know. nui— but amy, you just said we don't know. on wo— but amy, you just said we don't know. but we do _ but amy, you just said we don't know. but we do know- but amy, you just said we don't know. cit» know. but we do know that somebody was having a relationship somebody a lot relationship with somebody a lot more them work. more junior than them at work. and problematic. and we and that's problematic. and we also that make also know but that doesn't make it also know but that doesn't make ii-oi— also know but that doesn't make it-of national— also know but that doesn't make it of national news. g it worthy of national news. it ioosn-i— it worthy of national news. it doesn't- necessarily . doesn't make it necessarily illegal. the innuendo hinckley unethical, though , isn't it? unethical, though, isn't it? but. it's wrong in the but. well, it's wrong in the workplace and probably it's prohibited by his employment contract. most employment contracts prohibit relationships within workplace, but it you within a workplace, but it you know that in itself . you know, know that in itself. you know, he's being the impression we're being given by the press is that this boy has been preyed on and that he it's an abusive relationship . and i think, by relationship. and i think, by the way, most of relations ships where there's a massive age gap, i think personally, i think it's unhealthy. i mean, that doesn't mean that all relationships like that but the that aren't healthy, but the innuendo, i think , is very innuendo, i think, is very dangerous unless there's a specific crime alleged , in which specific crime alleged, in which case alleged the crime and prosecute it. no, but but there's a suggestion, isn't

there's a suggestion, isn't there , that neither nana nor there, that neither nana nor i have used the word grooming . have used the word grooming. and what i. you said there's a weinstein element to this. well, that was grooming. he said, hey, boy, that was grooming. he said, hey, iow in— that was grooming. he said, hey, now, in going— that was grooming. he said, hey, iow in going io— that was grooming. he said, hey, boy, i'm going to make- g g he said, hey, boy, i'm going to make you a sin.— boy, i'm going to make you a sin iono— boy, i'm going to make you a star. come on,— boy, i'm going to make you a star. come on, my— boy, i'm going to make you a star. come on, my i'll give you a star. come on, my i'll give you oioi. — star. come on, my i'll give you a job. weinstein— star. come on, my i'll give you a job. weinstein is- star. come on, my i'll give you a job. weinstein is in- star. come on, my i'll give you a job. �*fi�*ii; " " e a job. weinstein is in jail. weinstein is in jail. but that's how weinstein— weinstein is in jail. but that's how weinstein used- weinstein is in jail. but that's how weinstein used his- �*fi�*ii; " " e but that's how weinstein used his power in oxooiiw— how weinstein used his power in oxooiiw ino— how weinstein used his power in exactly the same— how weinstein used his power in exactly the same way. but, to amy.— exactly the same way. but, to any. inw— exactly the same way. but, to amy, draw the parallel. sorry, amy, draw the parallel. sorry, amy, but whilst, you know, i hear metoo element of it, hear the metoo element of it, other people come forward if other people may come forward if there such thing. and if there is such a thing. and if thatis there is such a thing. and if that is the case.— there is such a thing. and if that is the case. but- stint q and if that is the case. but ultimately the that is the case. but ultimately ino now— that is the case. but ultimately ino iow ws— that is the case. but ultimately ino now oi— that is the case. but ultimately the boy was of age and, you know— the boy was of age and, you know, ultimately— the boy was of age and, you know, ultimately if philip iiin-i— know, ultimately if philip iiin-i io— know, ultimately if philip didn't do anything illegal, he iiin-i. — didn't do anything illegal, hei didn't. _something didn't do anything illegal, he didn't. e. iii? g didn't do anything illegal, he didn't. jig." if g g incredibly unethical. it was unethical. yes. seemingly unethical. yes. he seemingly seduced that boy by offering him a no, no. but we don't know a job. no, no. but we don't know inoi— a job. no, no. but we don't know no ion— a job. no, no. but we don't know no ion so— a job. no, no. but we don't know that for sure. so— a job. no, no. but we don't know that for sure. so until— no, no. but we don't know that for sure. so until that young— that for sure. so until that wonng-oonos- that for sure. so until that young comes forward, young lad comes forward, then, you— young lad comes forward, then,| won—gnosiions you know, then those questions wii— you know, then those questions wiii—o— you know, then those questions will _ a theatre - will be asked at a theatre sonooi — will be asked at a theatre school. well,— will be asked at a theatre school. well, i— will be asked at a theatre school. well, i know, but you nooi— school. well, i know, but you nooi-in— school. well, i know, but you meet-in.sorts- school. well, i know, but you meet-in.sorts of. meet people in all sorts of ways — meet people in all sorts of ways i— meet people in all sorts of ways. i think— meet people in all sorts of ways. i think if- meet people in all sorts of ways. �*" sii�*flifi meet people in all sorts of ways. �*" w?" ways. i think if there was an allegation of a crime, no relationship until he actually joined itv. and that case, he joined itv. and in that case, he oi— joined itv. and in that case, he oi ago.— joined itv. and in that case, he oi ngo. ini— joined itv. and in that case, he was of age. but what- “ci: . and in that case, he was of age. but what do “cz . and in that case, he was of age. but what do you ininii— was of age. but what do you ininiilwon— was of age. but what do you think?.you think- was of age. but what do you think? you think it's think? do you think it's newsworthy?- think? do you think it's newsworthy? are you interested

in —iowo- newsworthy? are you interested in —iowo io - newsworthy? are you interested in_love to hear. in the story? i'd love to hear wonn— in the story? i'd love to hear- your-vaiews@gbnews.uk your thoughts. vaiews@gbnews.uk inn.— your thoughts. vaiews@gbnews.uk nnnnnon-n— your thoughts. vaiews@gbnews.uk nnnnnoo-n goi— your thoughts. vaiews@gbnews.uk nnnnnoo-n goi in- your thoughts. vaiews@gbnews.uk hmm. can get in touch hmm. also, you can get in touch via hmm. also, you can get in touch win—wows.- hmm. also, you can get in touch via—news. we're. via twitter at gb news. we're moving— via twitter at gb news. we're mowing-inis— via twitter at gb news. we're moving-this story- via twitter at gb news. we're moving this story now with moving on to this story now with wnnion— moving on to this story now with wnnion io. — moving on to this story now with number 10. they're— moving on to this story now with number 10. they're drawing plans for number 10. they're drawing plans ion noiniions— number 10. they're drawing plans for retailers to— number 10. they're drawing plans for retailers to introduce price sons— for retailers to introduce pricei sons—wow. caps on basic food items. now, noooniing— caps on basic food items. now, noooniing io— caps on basic food items. now, according to the— caps on basic food items. now, according to the telegraph, the nnioo— according to the telegraph, the nnioo-iiio— according to the telegraph, the price - like bread - according to the telegraph, the price like bread and price of staples like bread and min— price of staples like bread and nniii wonii— price of staples like bread and milk would be— price of staples like bread and milk would be capped help milk would be capped to help inoiio— milk would be capped to help inoiio-oosi- milk would be capped to help| tackle _costlliving tackle the rising cost of living . wow.— tackle the rising cost of living . now is— tackle the rising cost of living . now, it's reported that the inno— . now, it's reported that the prime minister— . now, it's reported that the prime minister have prime minister zs have started wonk— prime minister zs have started woni on— prime minister zs have started woni on n— prime minister zs have started work on a deal— prime minister zs have started work on a deal with supermarkets like work on a deal with supermarkets iiio inni— work on a deal with supermarkets iiio no in— work on a deal with supermarkets like that in france.— work on a deal with supermarkets like that in france. so france do like that in france. so france no sonoining— like that in france. so france do something similar where the oonninw-s— do something similar where the country's-retailers- do something similar where the country's retailers charge country's major retailers charge the country's major retailers charge ino-nossiiio— country's major retailers charge the possible amount for the lowest possible amount for some essential— the lowest possible amount for some essential food products. yet. government- some essential food products. yet government insists any yet the government insists any noiion— yet the government insists any onion-io— yet the government insists any action be voluntary. first action would be voluntary. first of action would be voluntary. first oi oi— action would be voluntary. first oi oi wnni-s— action would be voluntary. first of all, what's the _ action would be voluntary. first of all, what's the point of it ioing—nni- of all, what's the point of it. being—but secondly, being voluntary? but secondly, snonin— being voluntary? but secondly, should government be doing should the government be doing inni— should the government be doing innii-inow— should the government be doing innii-inow io— should the government be doing that? they be getting that? should they be getting inwoiwon— that? should they be getting involved-surely- involved in this? surely we're a onniiniisi— involved in this? surely we're a capitalist—the- capitalist country, so the gowonnnoni— capitalist country, so the government shouldn't even be ooninoiiing— government shouldn't even be controlling—any. government shouldn't even be controlling—any ,l government shouldn't even be. controlling—any , any controlling food prices any, any way,— controlling food prices any, any ow-o— controlling food prices any, any ow-o ion.— controlling food prices any, any way,-or form. let's- controlling food prices any, any way, or form. let's see way, shape or form. let's see wnoi— way, shape or form. let's see wnoi-noio- way, shape or form. let's see what-make of- way, shape or form. let's see what make of that. what my panel make of that. joining—and- joining me, author and broadcaster— joining me, author and broadcaster amy nicholl also broadcaster amy nicholl and also ioo— former brexit party mep ben woiii. — former brexit party mep ben woiii. non— former brexit party mep ben habib. ben it— former brexit party mep ben habib. ben it is— former brexit party mep ben habib. ben it is an admission by gowonnnoni— habib. ben it is an admission by gowonnnnoni — habib. ben it is an admission by government . isn't— habib. ben it is an admission by government . l government. isn't that all that levers at the government's disposal to control inflation haven't worked this is a last

ditch attempt. the public sector going cap in hand to the private sector, which is already taxed to the hilt and regulated to the hilt and pleading with the private sector to reduce the cost of food. but i've got to wake up call for rishi sunak. he needs to look at the accounts of sainsbury and tesco and these other supermarket other large supermarket operators. they already operate on margins . operators. they already operate on margins. there's on wafer thin margins. there's no room here. do you know that? because i deal, i deal with retailers all the time. i build shopping centres and retail warehouse parks and invest in them. and i know how retailers operate the lowest margin operators in amongst retailers are the supermarkets. they work on wafer thin margins. are the supermarkets. they work on wafer thin margins . and the on wafer thin margins. and the reason that they work at all as a as a business model is because they use economies of scale, scale and drive high volumes and therefore make a profit . the therefore make a profit. the nofion therefore make a profit. the notion that inflation is the cause of inflation or the preponderance of the increase inflation and it's staying high

is as a result of supermarket, its overcharging is daft as brushes are. the real problem here is that rishi sunak has run out of room on how to grow to grow the economy. he doesn't know how to grow the economy because he's taxed us so much. it's because he's and that's the issue. what he thinks is that by raising taxes and keeping taxes high, he's going to control inflation. in fact, what he's doing is killing the economy, arnie and we're in a downward spiral where it no longer pays to work. we've got 1.1 million job vacancies , 5.9 million job vacancies, 5.9 million people taking some form of universal credit or another, but not matching those two groups of people up because it doesn't pay to work. if you want this country back up on its feet, you've got to cut taxes, get people back into work, take the pressure off wages going up and make it pay to make it pay . amy make it pay to make it pay. amy so just to go back to those- so just to go back to those iignnos— so just to go back to those iignnos inoi— so just to go back to those figures that you - so just to go back to those figures that you mentioned, so woo— figures that you mentioned, so woo noi— figures that you mentioned, so we noi going— figures that you mentioned, so you're not going to include the 3 you're not going to include the s iiiiion— you're not going to include the 3 billion profits— you're not going to include the 3 billion profits that tesco

noooi — 3 billion profits that tesco noooi anny— 3 billion profits that tesco made? amy it- 3 billion profits that tesco made? g f: 3 billion profits that tesco- made? amy it they could make they could make 6 billion. it's they could make 6 billion. it's the margin . but you have to look the margin. but you have to look at you have to look at the profit though that's no, but you've got to look at the percentage margin that they make on turnover. they they work on razor thin. that billion could razor thin. that 3 billion could be evaporated if they get their margins wrong . you have to look margins wrong. you have to look at the underlying accounts of the before you come out the company before you come out with with a figure 3 billion, we'll give it all away . these we'll give it all away. these are private entities run for shareholder interests. they have to return on their money. to make a return on their money. they're already razor thin they're already on razor thin margins. if you have tesco sonnos— margins. if you have tesco sonnos oi— margins. if you have tesco shares at the— “mg if you have tesco shares at the moment, h?”g if you have tesco shares at the moment, you'll be won.— shares at the moment, you'll be wow—win— shares at the moment, you'll be wonw—wiin inis- very, very happy with this siinoiion— very, very happy with this situation there's situation and there's profiteering on. situation and there's- profiteering-on. there's profiteering going on. there's no nnoiii— profiteering going on. there's no nnoiii. i— profiteering going on. there's no profit. i mean, ultimately, you the problem you know, the problem with socialism , amy, as you said socialism, amy, amy, as you said , there's profiteering, profiteering is the profiteering going. this is the fact that tesco _ profiteering going. this is the fact that tesco made - hg giiti hg this is the fact that tesco made £3 hg gizi hg this is the fact that tesco made £3 billion iosi— fact that tesco made £3 billion iosi woon. — fact that tesco made £3 billion iosi on in— fact that tesco made £3 billion last year. do you— fact that tesco made £3 billion last year. j::: g:g fact that tesco made £3 billion last year. jig g:g f last year. do you grudge tesco making a profit? yes, i do . when making a profit? yes, i do. when it comes. well, there you go. well, you've got a complete woo— well, you've got a complete we iw— well, you've got a complete you're by socialism. let me iinisn— you're by socialism. let me finish this. _ you're by socialism. let me finish this. i'd— you're by socialism. let me finish this. i'd be- you're by socialism. let me finish this. : finish this. i'd be happy to be by it means that

by socialism if it means that mothers can buy baby milk for their children. at the moment in this country, we have and i know this country, we have and i know this is often wheeled out, but it that we have more it is true that we have more food banks than mcdonald's. people at the people cannot afford food at the moment. are up nearly 20% moment. we are up to nearly 20% on bills soon food bills on food bills soon food bills are going to nothing to do with tesco. no, but this is the government responsibility to look after its citizens by protecting them food protecting them from food poverty. it's the government. you know what? also another thing is the prices are about to increase once again when we have to not for food to have these not for food stickers that i believe were stickers that i believe you were very bringing in very much part of bringing in thanks to good old brexit. but amy but amy, the thing is , we amy but amy, the thing is, we can't keep if you want to carry on with the food banks and supermarkets giving away food and so on and so on and so forth, it's going to push the pfices forth, it's going to push the prices up even further, i think. are you saying i would do is the government should subsidise certain things. i think certain things. i actually think the you'd have more the things so you'd have more government spending? yes, more government. so g : hg?” yes, more government. so government debt is already at an all time high.

ionos— is already at an all time high. taxes-already— is already at an all time high. taxes-already at- is already at an all time high. taxes-already at a- is already at an all time high. taxes already at a 70 year taxes are already at a 70 year nosi— taxes are already at a 70 year nosi wonio— taxes are already at a 70 year post world-high,- post world war two high, and you wonio— post world war two high, and you wonio nowo— post world war two high, and you would have more— post world war two high, and you would have more government snonoing— would have more government spending putting more pressure on—nogniningi on the private sector, requiring ionos—noiing- on the private sector, requiring taxes—making it- taxes to stay up, making it innossiiio— taxes to stay up, making it impossible to impossible for the economy to gnow— impossible for the economy to gnow-oon-i- impossible for the economy to grow-can't have- impossible for the economy to grow can't have wage grow so people can't have wage gnowin— grow so people can't have wage gnowin so— grow so people can't have wage gnowin. so noonio— grow so people can't have wage growth, so people can't save nonow— growth, so people can't save nonowlnoonio— growth, so people can't save money, people can't afford money, so people can't afford ioon— money, so people can't afford ioon-noi— money, so people can't afford food. not understand that food. do you not understand that 7 food. do you not understand that i ino— food. do you not understand that iino nnoiion— food. do you not understand that ? the problem with— food. do you not understand that ? the problem with socialism is inoi— ? the problem with socialism is that ultimately— ? the problem with socialism is that ultimately run out of that ultimately you run out of oinon— that ultimately you run out of oinon noonio-s— that ultimately you run out of other people's money and that is wnoi— other people's money and that is wnoilnonnoning— other people's money and that is what happening with the what is happening with the uk. i what is happening with the uk. i on— what is happening with the uk. i on gniio— what is happening with the uk. i on gniio sini— what is happening with the uk. i am quite sick of— what is happening with the uk. i am quite sick of my— what is happening with the uk. i am quite sick of my taxes going people plenty of going to people with plenty of money doesn't . are you money such as doesn't. are you joking? the gap between the gap between the poorest and the richest is huge the moment. richest is huge at the moment. the money is in the top hands. the money is in the top hands. the that have all the top hands that have all the money, profiteering. at money, the profiteering. look at the energy companies, the amount of they're making. look of profit they're making. look at the food the energy companies of profit they're making. look at tpaying, the energy companies of profit they're making. look at tpaying, masses rgy companies of profit they're making. look at tpaying, masses of companies of profit they're making. look at tpaying, masses of tax npanies of profit they're making. look at tpaying, masses of tax making are paying, masses of tax making huge .i are paying, masses of tax making huge . i sick of huge profits. i am sick of living in country living in a country of profiteering. problem profiteering. that is my problem at moment. and if you think at the moment. and if you think that makes me well, you've got a problem with capitalism. you've got a problem with it?) you've got a problem with capitalism. i got a problem with capitalism. i—ios- got a problem with capitalism. i—ios nono- got a problem with capitalism. i i—ios iono nngo i think capitalism has done huge damages. reason has damages. the reason has benefited the few, as benefited the few, such as yourself. that you make a yourself. i know that you make a lot privately and even

lot of money privately and even though you're working as an mp and i'm not working for you, i'm not mp, a reform party. well not an mp, a reform party. well when working when you're working as an mp, i do that pro bono. you made £1 million extra. when you're working as an mp. so i'm sure these these things like i'm sure these these things like i'm sure these 19% on your these things like 19% on your food doesn't affect you, food bill doesn't affect you, but affect other people. food bill doesn't affect you, bam affect other people. food bill doesn't affect you, bam passionate :t other people. food bill doesn't affect you, bam passionate aboutr people. food bill doesn't affect you,- bam passionate about making. food bill doesn't affect you,- bam passionate about making the i am passionate about making the woniing— i am passionate about making the working classes— i am passionate about making the working classes better off. woii— working classes better off. woii wono— working classes better off. well, you're not doing a very good— well, you're not doing a very good ion— well, you're not doing a very good on oi— well, you're not doing a very good on oi ii.— well, you're not doing a very good job at it. you don't make inon — good job at it. you don't make inon ioiion— good job at it. you don't make them better off— good job at it. you don't make them better off taxing them them better off by taxing them wnw— them better off by taxing them wnw oo — them better off by taxing them more. why do you— them better off by taxing them more. why do you think 5.9 niiiion— more. why do you think 5.9 million people?— more. why do you think 5.9 million people? we have 170 billionaires— million people? we have 170 billionaires in— million people? we have 170 billionaires in the uk. million people? we have 170 billionaires in the uk . icgog : billionaires in the uk. why does onwono— billionaires in the uk. why does onwn noon— billionaires in the uk. why does anyone need to be? it's billionaires in the uk. icgog : : 327 it's the anyone need to be? it's the politics of envy— anyone need to be? it's the politics of envy . - anyone need to be? it's the politics of envy . oh- anyone need to be? it's the politics of envy . oh yeah. okay. politics of envy. oh yeah. okay. aisoinioiw. — politics of envy. oh yeah. okay. absolutely. government- politics of envy. cj’h figs [jo/q absolutely. government be noiiiios— absolutely. government be noiiiiosano— absolutely. government be politics are realism. hg politics are realism. knowing wiono— politics are realism. knowing where the money is . oh, sorry. where the money is. oh, sorry. sorry , amy. i love it . no, i sorry, amy. i love it. no, i iowo— sorry, amy. i love it. no, i iowo ii— sorry, amy. i love it. no, i love it when— sorry, amy. i love it. no, i love it when you- ' i love it. no, i love it when you talk about food nnioos. — love it when you talk about food nnioos. ioo-s— love it when you talk about food nnioos. ioo-s go— love it when you talk about food prices. let's go back.- love it when you talk about food prices. gzg \::: love it when you talk about food prices. gzg \i:g prices. let's go back. no, no, no. okay. so food prices- prices. gzg \::: okay. so food prices then. no. okay. so food prices then. woii— no. okay. so food prices then. woii inis— no. okay. so food prices then. woii inis is— no. okay. so food prices then. well, this is all— okay. so food prices then. well, this is all related. sorry. should— well, this is all related. should the government sorry. should the government inon— sorry. should the government inon io— sorry. should the government then be getting— should the government then be getting involved in food nnioosi— then be getting involved in food nnioosi ios— then be getting involved in food nnioosi vos. 0n— then be getting involved in food prices? yes. or no?— then be getting involved in food prices? yes. or no? yes. and ionnon — prices? yes. or no? yes. and bannau. absolutely not. okay, gnooi— bannau. absolutely not. okay, gnooi-won. — bannau. absolutely not. okay, gnooi-won. iignn- bannau. absolutely not. okay, great. you. right. that's great. thank you. right. that's inoin—

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oiioin snggosi— air con is the too many a's in affair suggest a— air con is the too many a's in affair suggest a nip it in the ini— affair suggest a nip it in the ini oi— affair suggest a nip it in the bud at pre—emptive on his part to bud at pre—emptive on his part io oiinio— bud at pre—emptive on his part io oiinio o— bud at pre—emptive on his part to dilute a positive possible iiss— to dilute a positive possible iiss oni— to dilute a positive possible kiss and tell— to dilute a positive possible kiss and tell all— to dilute a positive possible kiss and tell all by his ex iowon— kiss and tell all by his ex iowon .— kiss and tell all by his ex lover . yeah— kiss and tell all by his ex lover . yeah it's- kiss and tell all by his ex lover . yeah it's all a bit it lover. yeah it's all a bit it is.— lover. yeah it's all a bit it is. ini— lover. yeah it's all a bit it is. in won— lover. yeah it's all a bit it is. but you know what? it's inionosiing— is. but you know what? it's inionosiing .— is. but you know what? it's interesting , isn't it? you've interesting, isn't it? you've got— interesting, isn't it? you've goi io— interesting, isn't it? you've goi io oinii— interesting, isn't it? you've got to admit. and considering the got to admit. and considering ino iosi— got to admit. and considering the fact that— got to admit. and considering the fact that he— got to admit. and considering the fact that he was so squeaky oioon— the fact that he was so squeaky oioon oii— the fact that he was so squeaky oioon oii ino— the fact that he was so squeaky clean all the time,— the fact that he was so squeaky clean all the time, it's always good— clean all the time, it's always good io— clean all the time, it's always good io soo— clean all the time, it's always good to see people who behaved like good to see people who behaved iiio inoi— good to see people who behaved iiio inoi insi— good to see people who behaved like that just maybe come inniiing— like that just maybe come tumbling down a little bit. but igni— tumbling down a little bit. but ngn, wo— tumbling down a little bit. but ngn, wo nowo— tumbling down a little bit. but right, we move on. i'm not iiiion— right, we move on. i'm not iiiion. ii-s— right, we move on. i'm not bitter. it's not— right, we move on. i'm not bitter. it's not grapes. bitter. it's not sour grapes. woi— bitter. it's not sour grapes. not because— bitter. it's not sour grapes. not because they didn't give me a not because they didn't give me o ioi. — not because they didn't give me oioi. zo— not because they didn't give me a job. 26 minutes— not because they didn't give me a job. 26 minutes after 3:00, going— a job. 26 minutes after 3:00, we're going-move- a job. 26 minutes after 3:00, we're going move on to we're going to move on to ioionn. — we're going to move on to labour. .labour- we're going to move on to labour. labour party, are labour. the labour party, are now— labour. the labour party, arei they—immigration they now the low immigration nonwo— they now the low immigration ioniwi—sionool party? now labour's stance seems to party? now labour's stance seems io—ioiiowing- party? now labour's stance seems to _following this. to have tightened following this woois— to have tightened following this week's-migration- week's record net migration iignnos— week's record net migration figures-shadow- week's record net migration figures. shadow health figures. the shadow health soonoionw.— figures. the shadow health secretary, wes— figures. the shadow health secretary, wes streeting pearson .-iioii— secretary, wes streeting pearson .-iioii on— secretary, wes streeting pearson .-mail on sunday- . today's mail on sunday snggosis— . today's mail on sunday snggosis ino— . today's mail on sunday suggests the crackdown of ionoign— suggests the crackdown of foreign workers. wrote the foreign workers. he wrote the non— foreign workers. he wrote the real reason immigration is out of real reason immigration is out oi ooninoi— real reason immigration is out of control. the— real reason immigration is out of control. the country's osiossion— of control. the country's obsession with- of control. the country's obsession with cheap labour from nong— obsession with cheap labour from overseas. hang on a— obsession with cheap labour from overseas. hang on a minute. that sonnso— overseas. hang on a minute. that sonnso iiio— overseas. hang on a minute. that sounds like something from the ion— sounds like something from the ionw ionw-s— sounds like something from the tory party's playbook. now this ioiiows— tory party's playbook. now this follows shadow— tory party's playbook. now this follows shadow home secretary vwoiio— follows shadow home secretary vwoiio coonon— follows shadow home secretary yvette cooper telling the ioiognonn— yvette cooper telling the telegraph about the party's nions— telegraph about the party's nions io— telegraph about the party's nions io oni— telegraph about the party's plans to put limits on how plans to put time limits on how iong— plans to put time limits on how iong oonnoninos—

plans to put time limits on how long companies can import ionoign— long companies can import foreign although that foreign workers, although that pion— foreign workers, although that nion-iiiiio - foreign workers, although that plan-little bit- foreign workers, although that plan little bit more plan sounds a little bit more oonniox— plan sounds a little bit more complex-don't— plan sounds a little bit more complex don't how complex, i don't know how inow-no— complex, i don't know how inow-no going— complex, i don't know how they're going work that they're going to work that out, but they're going to work that out, ini-woioono— they're going to work that out, but welcome again my but let's welcome again to my nonoi— but let's welcome again to my panel-broadcaster- but let's welcome again to my panel broadcaster amy panel from broadcaster amy wionoii— panel from broadcaster amy nicholl,_brexiti nicholl, also former brexit party— nicholl, also former brexit ionw wii— nicholl, also former brexit party mep habib. nicholl, also former brexit party mep habib . amy, i'm party mep ben habib. amy, i'm going— party mep ben habib. amy, i'm goinglsioni— party mep ben habib. amy, i'm goinglsioni wiin— party mep ben habib. amy, i'm going start with you , labour. going to start with you, labour. do going to start with you, labour. ioo won— going to start with you, labour. ioo won inini— going to start with you, labour. do you think there's a new party of-immigration?_ do you think there's a new party of immigration? they're of low immigration? they're sowing— of low immigration? they're. sowing—ino saying they're making all the nigni— saying they're making all the right soundbites_ saying they're making all the- right soundbites-labour right soundbites. i think labour have fallen foul of thinking that will them public that this will win them public support and votes and they're so keen get this election over keen to get this election over the they'll say what the line that they'll say what they people hear they think people want to hear when really think they know we when really i think they know we need reframe this whole need to reframe this whole conversation. talking need to reframe this whole conveilegali. talking need to reframe this whole conveilegal migration. king need to reframe this whole conveilegal migration. we're about legal migration. we're talking about labour coming in and actually benefiting our economy . arnie the figures pro economy. arnie the figures pro move that those from non eu countries coming in, working those from eu countries boost the economy by billions. british workers cost billions, but obviously there's a lot more people come here for opportunities. wouldn't it be more cost effective though? like you said, british workers cosi— like you said, british workers oosi o— like you said, british workers oosi o ioi— like you said, british workers cost a lot, wouldn't it be more cosi— cost a lot, wouldn't it be more cost effective _ cost a lot, wouldn't it be more cost effective to _ cost a lot, wouldn't it be more cost effective to use british

wonionsi— cost effective to use british workers?-we'd - cost effective to use british workers? : workers? no, we'd have to retrain we'd have we'd retrain them. we'd have to we'd have to sort them out. the jobs that whole admin around it would cost loads. and lot cost loads. and that's a lot of these tweaks that these change and tweaks that brexit in the short requires in the term , it doesn't make the short term, it doesn't make financial sense. well, in the short term, example, the short term, for example, the agriculture industry. about agriculture industry. what about on about on migrant labour? what about what amy. what about. what what about amy. what about. what oooni—wono- what about amy. what about. what about—then? the- about the short term then? the snoni— about the short term then? the snoni ionn— about the short term then? the snoni ionn. wos— about the short term then? the short term, yes, it— about the short term then? the short term, yes, it might cost io— short term, yes, it might cost more to retrain— short term, yes, it might cost more to retrain british workers, but more to retrain british workers, iono-iong— more to retrain british workers, iono-iong ionn- more to retrain british workers, but long term, wouldn't but in the long term, wouldn't inoi— but in the long term, wouldn't no no— but in the long term, wouldn't inoi io-i— but in the long term, wouldn't that be-i-ben. . but in the long term, wouldn't that be-i-ben. i that be better? i go to ben. won.— that be better? i go to ben. vooi. woii— that be better? i go to ben. yeah, well, look,— that be better? i go to ben. yeah, well, look, we've- that be better? i go to ben. yeah, well, look, we've got a fundamentally broken labour market united kingdom. market in the united kingdom. those credit before those on universal credit before lockdowns in lockdowns was 3 million. in 2018, was less than 2018, there was less than a million people on universal credit . there are now 5.9 credit. there are now 5.9 million people. and the figure is stuck there. and 2 million of that 5.9 are completely out of the workforce, not looking for work. it doesn't pay to work in the united kingdom . that is the united kingdom. that is a fundamentally important point that the government and every commentator needs to pick up on. it doesn't pay to work. that's

why these people are not working. and 40% people earning iniwonsoi— working. and 40% people earning universal credit— working. and 40% people earning universal credit are— working. and 40% people earning universal credit are on— hg and 40% people earning universal credit are on or in wonk— universal credit are on or in woni proving— universal credit are on or in work proving that 40% of 6 niiiion— work proving that 40% of 6 million, whereas it was 40% of 3 niiiion— million, whereas it was 40% of 3 million before— million, whereas it was 40% of 3 million before lockdowns and 40% of million before lockdowns and 40% oi ioooooo — million before lockdowns and 40% oi ioooooo in— million before lockdowns and 40% of 1,000,000 in 2018. ”giff? of 1,000,000 in 2018. that 40% granted has stayed steady. but the absolute number has gone through the roof . it's because through the roof. it's because the labour market is broken, the labour market is broken because it doesn't pay to work, it doesn't pay to work because taxes are too high on the working and middle classes. forget about the rich, the working middle classes are being overtaxed and at the same time benefits have gone up dramatically. so benefits becomes a real career poor opfion becomes a real career poor option versus working. and unless you can get that system right, unless that ecosystem is put right, this country is going to go round in ever decreasing circles, down a plughole. it is the biggest problem facing the country at the minute. it's absolutely crucial. i just don't

know. well, that's exactly what we're doing. and the government's response is we're going to tax more. we're going to give you more benefits. we're going to spend more money on you to try and mollycoddle you. and in the meantime, because you're not working and we've got job vacancies, we'll import people from abroad . labour party are from abroad. labour party are saying that, but the labour party that entrenches the problem. the labour party is sowing— problem. the labour party is sowing wnoi— problem. the labour party is saying what you're- the labour party is saying what you're saying. inow-no — saying what you're saying. inow-no sowing— saying what you're saying. they're saying that they're going— they're saying that they're going-ino — they're saying that they're going-the .tax. l they're saying that they're l going _the .tax. the going to be the low tax. the ioionn— going to be the low tax. the ioionn-inow- going to be the low tax. the. labour-they-talking labour party. they also talking oooni— labour party. they also talking oooni-wos— labour party. they also talking about wes streeting saying about less wes streeting saying ioss—inoil about less wes streeting saying ioss—inoi isi less people from abroad that is going— less people from abroad that is going-win— less people from abroad that is going-with what- less people from abroad that is going with what you're going along with what you're sowing. — going along with what you're sowing. ino— going along with what you're saying. the-party. saying. the labour party championed implemented championed and implemented the open policy that has now open border policy that has now gone absolutely rampant under this conservative party, which is not conservative at all. it's a it's another socialist party. i'd like to you up on on i'd like to pick you up on on your your belief that benefits is a career option. well, it's iooonno— is a career option. well, it's iooonno o— is a career option. well, it's become a career— f zng well, it's become a career option because the become a career option because ino ononni— become a career option because ino ononni won— become a career option because the amount you can make on ionoiiis— the amount you can make on benefits compares to what you nono— benefits compares to what you can make on the— benefits compares to what you can make on the net median. i wooin— can make on the net median. i wonin ognoo— can make on the net median. i would agree with— can make on the net median. : g but i would agree with that. but i would agree with that. but i would also say that- would agree with that. but i would also say that a- : g but i would also say that a lot of inonsinios— would also say that a lot of industries are— would also say that a lot of industries are closing down in

onion— industries are closing down in oonioin ooos— industries are closing down in certain areas. aren't any certain areas. there aren't any job opportunities— certain areas. there aren't any job opportunities ,_ certain areas. there aren't any job opportunities , so surely job opportunities, so surely is— job opportunities, so surely is oo— job opportunities, so surely it's more about— job opportunities, so surely it's more about increasing job noioniioi— it's more about increasing job potential opportunity is in iowoiiing— potential opportunity is in iowoiiing nn— potential opportunity is in levelling up rather than demonising_ levelling up rather than demonising those who are on ionoiiis— demonising those who are on ionoiiis . — demonising those who are on benefits . i'm— demonising those who are on benefits . i'm not- demonising those who are on benefits . :’h hg benefits. i'm not demonising them. what i'm saying you're saying is choosing it. i'm saying is choosing it. i'm saying that it doesn't pay literally doesn't pay to work . literally doesn't pay to work. you're better off any rational organism, any rational human being given a choice between making x amount of money by not having to work and x amount of money by working is going to go for the former option. i disagree with that. i. disagree with that. i don't inini— disagree with that. i don't inini won— disagree with that. i don't think you have— disagree with that. i don't think you have much faith in noonio— think you have much faith in noonio-inoi-s- think you have much faith in people.-that's a- people. i know that's a oonnioioiw— people. i know that's a completely rational economic onoioo— completely rational economic onoioo-o— completely rational economic choice a profession. choice to have a profession. t hey— choice to have a profession. inow wono— choice to have a profession. inow woni io— choice to have a profession. they want to have vocation and they want to have a vocation and inoi— they want to have a vocation and inn-nono— they want to have a vocation and inoi-nono io— they want to have a vocation and that-more to them- they want to have a vocation and that more to them for that means more to them for non— that means more to them for their mental— that means more to them for their mental health, for their son— their mental health, for their soii-noinon- their mental health, for their self-rather than- their mental health, for their self rather than just self esteem rather than just ininiing— thinking about it in purely iinonoioi— thinking about it in purely financial terms. you financial terms. i think you sowing.— financial terms. i think you. sowing—iono saying, oh, well, they've done ino—inow- saying, oh, well, they've done ino—inow oon- saying, oh, well, they've done the _they can sit. saying, oh, well, they've donei the—they can sit and the maths and they can sit and woion— the maths and they can sit and watch-morning.— the maths and they can sit and watch morning. probably watch this morning. probably wonion-i— wouldn't any more though would now— wouldn't any more though would inow-inono— wouldn't any more though would inow-inono in— wouldn't any more though would they there in about they watch. be there in about noinon— they watch. be there in about noinon inon— they watch. be there in about rather than going to work and won— rather than going to work and inon ionning— rather than going to work and then toppinglup_ rather than going to work and

then topping up with then topping it up with universal— then topping it up with universal-i- then topping it up with universal i don't then topping it up with- universal-i don't believe universal credit i don't believe inn.— universal credit i don't believe inoi.|inini— universal credit i don't believe that. think people much universal credit i don't believe tiwell, think people much universal credit i don't believe tiwell, think petole much universal credit i don't believe tiwell, think peto me, much universal credit i don't believe tiwell, think peto me, amy,nuch . well, explain to me, amy, explain— . well, explain to me, amy, explain io— . well, explain to me, amy, explain to me— . well, explain to me, amy, explain to me would agree with explain to me i would agree with won.— explain to me i would agree with won. nniwonsoi— explain to me i would agree with you. universal wages are too iow. — you. universal wages are too iow. i— you. universal wages are too iow. i wonio— you. universal wages are too low. i would-with- you. universal wages are too low. i would with you and low. i would agree with you and wogos— low. i would agree with you and wogos ioo— low. i would agree with you and wages are too taxes are wages are too low or taxes are ioo— wages are too low or taxes are ioo iign— wages are too low or taxes are ioo nign wogos— wages are too low or taxes are too high, wages are too low. i inini— too high, wages are too low. i inini ionos— too high, wages are too low. i think taxes are _ too high, wages are too low. i think taxes are where they need to think taxes are where they need io-ini— think taxes are where they need io-ini now— think taxes are where they need io-ini now oo— think taxes are where they need to-but how do you- think taxes are where they need to but how do you put more to be, but how do you put more nonow— to be, but how do you put more nonow inio— to be, but how do you put more money into people's pockets? noonso— money into people's pockets? nooonso-iox- money into people's pockets? because tax wealth, stop because i would tax wealth, stop ioxing—inoso- taxing you would tax those noonio— taxing you would tax those noonio-noio- taxing you would tax those people make money taxing people who make money taxing workers, tax wealth, stagnating wooin— workers, tax wealth, stagnating wooiin .— workers, tax wealth, stagnating wealth , inherited— workers, tax wealth, stagnating wealth , inherited wealth. wealth, inherited wealth. iision— wealth, inherited wealth. iision. now— wealth, inherited wealth. listen, how - more i wealth, inherited wealth. - listen, how-more unearned listen, how much more unearned income, how much more do you want take by laughing at want to take by laughing at that? why do you not that? because why do you not want. is the point want. hang on, what is the point of more and money if of making more and more money if every you make you're every time you make more you're going to be taxed more and more? because we're not talking about nonow—won- because we're not talking about nonow—won soinl because we're not talking about. money—you said so. money being made. you said so. so money being made. you said so. so ii— money being made. you said so. so iilinw— money being made. you said so. so if buy talking about if i so if i buy talking about if i buy a house, sorry, if i buy a house and then they say no, well, now instead of taxing you on this, we're going to increase that and whatever that to about 50. and whatever you the house, you when you sell the house, we're to take even more we're going to take even more and more off and in the and more off you. and in the end, people have to do end, the people who have to do this won't be bothered to do it, and they'll end up all on

benefits. and you'll find that wooin— benefits. and you'll find that wealth-handed— and you'll find that wealth handed down generation wealth is handed down generation to wealth is handed down generation io—gononoiion- wealth is handed down generation to generation, social to generation generation, social noiiiiiw— mobility. there's nothing wrong wiin— with absolutely nothing wrong ioonso— with absolutely nothing wrong| because _ people because of this to give people onnoninniiw— because of this to give people opportunity.-nothing| opportunity. there's nothing wrong wealth. wrong with handed down wealth. it's unearned nana it's unearned unearned nana winn— it's unearned unearned nana aino. wo— it's unearned unearned nana aino. wo. ii-s— it's unearned unearned nana akua. no, it's not— it's unearned unearned nana akua. no, it's not your parents oonnoo—iil earned it. you can have it. inow-wo— earned it. you can have it. inow-wo goi— earned it. you can have it. inow-wo goi ii— earned it. you can have it. they've got it for you. they oonnoo— they've got it for you. they earned-that's. earned it for you. that's they pav— earned it for you. that's they now ion— earned it for you. that's they now ion-inoi-s- earned it for you. that's they pay tax that's why i'm pay tax on it. that's why i'm woniing— pay tax on it. that's why i'm working-things- pay tax on it. that's why i'm working things for my working to get things for my kids. — working to get things for my kids. inoi-s— working to get things for my kids. that's it.— working to get things for my kids. that's it. i— working to get things for my kids. that's it. i don't want to go— kids. that's it. i don't want to giwo inon— kids. that's it. i don't want to give them nothing. you're with -aino. - give them nothing. you're with no-aino-isl me. i'm nana akua. this is gb wows—ono- me. i'm nana akua. this is gb wows—ono on- news on tv, online and on oigiioi—goil digital radio. you've got oiiiinon— digital radio. you've got children. don't you want to give inon —iinn - children. don't you want to give inon —iinn io- children. don't you want to give them—him to bel them stuff? i want him to be able his own money. able to earn his own money. yeah, to want him able to earn his own money. ye understand to want him able to earn his own money. ye understand they'llint him able to earn his own money. ye understand they'll neveri to understand that they'll never buy won't be after buy a house. he won't be after the break. i'll it for the break. i'll keep it for nonsoii. — the break. i'll keep it for herself. i'll— the break. i'll keep it for herself. i'll spend- i'll keep it for herself. i'll spend it on cats. oh,— herself. i'll spend it on cats. on. is— herself. i'll spend it on cats. on. is iino— herself. i'll spend it on cats. oh, it's time for— herself. i'll spend it on cats. oh, it's time for a- herself. i'll spend it on cats. oh, it's time for a for oh, it's time for a break for inis— oh, it's time for a break for this debate. _ oh, it's time for a break for- this debate. _continue this debate. should we continue snnnoning— this debate. should we continue snn niing— this debate. should we continue snn ni ionno— this debate. should we continue snn ni ionni i— this debate. should we continue sup uk form? i no.— this debate. should we continue sup uk form? i no. i also form the uk form? i no. i also form ioso— the uk form? i no. i also form oioson-ino— the uk form? i no. i also form closer-the-you'll. closer ties to the eu. you'll noon— closer ties to the eu. you'll hear-thoughts- closer ties to the eu. you'll hear-thoughts of- closer ties to the eu. you'll hear thoughts of my panel, hear the thoughts of my panel, oninon— hear the thoughts of my panel, oninon ono— hear the thoughts of my panel, author and broadcaster amy hear the thoughts of my panel, author oals0iroadcaster amy hear the thoughts of my panel, author also former;ter amy hear the thoughts of my panel, author also former;ter an party nicholl also former brexit party wii— nicholl also former brexit party win—insi- mep ben habib. but first, let's get mep ben habib. but first, let's goi—nons- mep ben habib. but first, let's get news headlines mep ben habib. but first, let's. get—news headlines . get your latest news headlines. iioni— get your latest news headlines. iioni won— get your latest news headlines. inoni won very— get your latest news headlines. thank you very much,- get your latest news headlines. thank you very much, nana. i'm rory smith in the gb newsroom . rory smith in the gb newsroom. itv sources have told gb news inoi— itv sources have told gb news inoi iossos— itv sources have told gb news that bosses have— itv sources have told gb news that bosses have just seven days to that bosses have just seven days io soo— that bosses have just seven days io ii— that bosses have just seven days io ii inis— that bosses have just seven days

to see if this morning, ioiiowing— to see if this morning, following the fallout surrounding philip's schofield sioii— surrounding philip's schofield staff members— surrounding philip's schofield staff members ,_ surrounding philip's schofield staff members , who raised staff members, who raised concerns say executives need to woo— concerns say executives need to nnowo inow-no — concerns say executives need to prove they're properly addressing _ prove they're properly addressing the issue and they'll nooo— addressing the issue and they'll nooo io— addressing the issue and they'll nooo io win— addressing the issue and they'll need to win back— addressing the issue and they'll need to win back the trust of ino— need to win back the trust of viewers. the broadcaster has ooniinnoo— viewers. the broadcaster has confirmed the— viewers. the broadcaster has confirmed the show will air tomorrow, adding it's not under ono— tomorrow, adding it's not under review and there— tomorrow, adding it's not under review and there are no plans for review and there are no plans ion ii— review and there are no plans ion ii io— review and there are no plans ion ii io io— review and there are no plans for it to be axed— review and there are no plans for it to be axed .— review and there are no plans for it to be axed . it comes as for it to be axed. it comes as ooioiis— for it to be axed. it comes as new details emerged about schofield's— new details emerged about schofield's relationship with a runner who was— schofield's relationship with a runner who was reportedly 15 woons— runner who was reportedly 15 woons oio— runner who was reportedly 15 years old when— runner who was reportedly 15 years old when they first met. a iiwo— years old when they first met. a iiwo woon— years old when they first met. a iiwo woon oio— years old when they first met. a five year old girl— years old when they first met. a five year old girl has died ioiiowing— five year old girl has died ioiiowing o— five year old girl has died following a house fire in pembrokeshire , near. despite the pembrokeshire, near. despite the oiionis— pembrokeshire, near. despite the oiionis oi— pembrokeshire, near. despite the efforts of emergency services. aiioio— efforts of emergency services. alicia salisbury— efforts of emergency services. alicia salisbury passed away at the alicia salisbury passed away at ino soono— alicia salisbury passed away at ino oi— alicia salisbury passed away at the scene of the— alicia salisbury passed away at the scene of the blaze in the nonow— the scene of the blaze in the ponty glacier— the scene of the blaze in the ponty glacier area last night. won— ponty glacier area last night. won ioniiw— ponty glacier area last night. her family, who— ponty glacier area last night. her family, who described her as a her family, who described her as o iooniiini— her family, who described her as a beautiful daughter and sister, are a beautiful daughter and sister, ioing— a beautiful daughter and sister, are being supported by specialist— are being supported by specialist officers. the force sows— specialist officers. the force sows ii— specialist officers. the force sows ii is— specialist officers. the force says it is working to establish the says it is working to establish ino oonso— says it is working to establish ino .— says it is working to establish the cause . the— says it is working to establish the cause . the government is the cause. the government is ionnoning— the cause. the government is ionnoning on— the cause. the government is launching an ad— the cause. the government is launching an ad campaign to stop noonio— launching an ad campaign to stop noonio inon— launching an ad campaign to stop people from crossing the channel all people from crossing the channel aii ino— people from crossing the channel all the adverts— people from crossing the channel all the adverts set— people from crossing the channel

all the adverts set to be circulated— all the adverts set to be circulated in— all the adverts set to be circulated in albania next week wii— circulated in albania next week wiii wonn— circulated in albania next week will warn people— circulated in albania next week will warn people to the face ioing— will warn people to the face being detained _ will warn people to the face being detained and removed if inow— being detained and removed if inow nono— being detained and removed if inow noio ino— being detained and removed if they make the journey . critics they make the journey. critics nowo— they make the journey. critics nowo oinooow— they make the journey. critics have already branded it as noiniioss— have already branded it as pointless, saying it won't deter inon. — pointless, saying it won't deter inon. a— pointless, saying it won't deter them. a record— pointless, saying it won't deter them. a record number of people nooo— them. a record number of people nooo ino— them. a record number of people made the crossing— them. a record number of people made the crossing in small boats iosi— made the crossing in small boats iosi woon— made the crossing in small boats iosi woon ono— made the crossing in small boats last year and more— made the crossing in small boats last year and more than 6000 nowo— last year and more than 6000 nowo ioon— last year and more than 6000 have been intercepted so far inis— have been intercepted so far inis woon— have been intercepted so far inis woon .— have been intercepted so far this year. meanwhile, labour sows— this year. meanwhile, labour sows ii— this year. meanwhile, labour sows i win— this year. meanwhile, labour says it will impose time limits on nining— says it will impose time limits on hiring overseas— says it will impose time limits on hiring overseas workers in a bid on hiring overseas workers in a iii io— on hiring overseas workers in a iii io ioni— on hiring overseas workers in a bid to kerb migration. the snooow— bid to kerb migration. the shadow home— bid to kerb migration. the shadow home secretary, yvette ooonon— shadow home secretary, yvette ooonon .— shadow home secretary, yvette ooonon . nos— shadow home secretary, yvette cooper , has told— shadow home secretary, yvette cooper , has told the sunday cooper, has told the sunday ioiognonn— cooper, has told the sunday ioiognonn ii— cooper, has told the sunday telegraph it would serve as an inooniiwo— telegraph it would serve as an inooniiwo io — telegraph it would serve as an incentive to train— telegraph it would serve as an incentive to train british workers. she _ incentive to train british workers. she also suggested the party— workers. she also suggested the nonow wonio— workers. she also suggested the nonow wonio osi— workers. she also suggested the party would ask the migration aowisonw— party would ask the migration advisory committee for onnnonnioio— advisory committee for appropriate timescales for innoning— appropriate timescales for importing labour. that's all for . ini— importing labour. that's all for . ini won— importing labour. that's all for now , but you can— importing labour. that's all for now , but you can get more on all now, but you can get more on all of now, but you can get more on all oi inoso— now, but you can get more on all of those stories— now, but you can get more on all of those stories by— now, but you can get more on all of those stories by visiting our woisiio— of those stories by visiting our website. that's— of those stories by visiting our website. that's gb news .com .

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to . yes, j says. and controlling. good riddance to . yes,j says. of to bad rubbish. yes,j says. of course we should cut all ties with the eu and brussels. it's like leaving your wife, then ringing her up and asking if you can night out. what's the can have a night out. what's the point ? i like can have a night out. what's the point? i like it. keep your thoughts coming. it's great. now over a year since the russian invasion, the war in ukraine continues now. today, the ukrainian capital of kyiv was hit by a new massive wave of russian drone attacks. according to ukraine's air force, russia launched a record 54 kamikaze drones on ukrainian targets. now, this follows britain's new wave of sanctions against russia dufing wave of sanctions against russia during this month's g7 summit. and defence secretary ben wallace visited to kyiv this week, where ukraine thanked the uk for continued military aid. but have we already reached our geopolitical goals and should we continue to supporting ukraine throughout this war? so let's see what my head to head to think of that. amy nicole and also brexit party mep ben habib. ben when the war kicked off the

big fear we all had was that russia would go through ukraine like a dose of salts and within days or weeks it would have missiles parked up against the border of poland, the eastern flank of the european of the european of europe are western europe. and we would all be innooionoo— europe. and we would all be threatened by— europe. and we would all be threatened by an— l. and we would all be threatened by an aggressive , threatened by an aggressive, oononsionisi— threatened by an aggressive, expansionist russia . and we expansionist russia. and we nigniiw— expansionist russia. and we nigniiw wono— expansionist russia. and we rightly went to _ expansionist russia. and we rightly went to the defence of iiinoino— rightly went to the defence of iiinoino on — rightly went to the defence of ukraine on the— rightly went to the defence of ukraine on the geopolitical aim of ukraine on the geopolitical aim oi nnoiooiing— ukraine on the geopolitical aim of protecting western europe has nnooniiooiw— of protecting western europe has undoubtedly been— of protecting western europe has undoubtedly been achieved. ionssio— undoubtedly been achieved. ionssio nos— undoubtedly been achieved. russia has been pinned down now in ino— russia has been pinned down now in the south—east— russia has been pinned down now in the south—east of— russia has been pinned down now in the south—east of ukraine. is— in the south—east of ukraine. is iooono— in the south—east of ukraine. it's become what— in the south—east of ukraine. it's become what i think will ono— it's become what i think will on no— it's become what i think will on no os— it's become what i think will on no os o— it's become what i think will on no os o wow— it's become what i think will end up as a very long term war. ionssio— end up as a very long term war. ionssio wii— end up as a very long term war. russia will keep— end up as a very long term war. russia will keep throwing men at this russia will keep throwing men at inis nnoiion— russia will keep throwing men at inis nnoiion .— russia will keep throwing men at this problem . no— russia will keep throwing men at this problem . no amount of this problem. no amount of niiiionw— this problem. no amount of niiiionw oio— this problem. no amount of military aid from the united kingdom— military aid from the united kingdom ono— military aid from the united kingdom and the us is going to ooiooi— kingdom and the us is going to defeat russia— kingdom and the us is going to defeat russia .— kingdom and the us is going to defeat russia . it'll just keep defeat russia. it'll just keep going— defeat russia. it'll just keep going .— defeat russia. it'll just keep going . ano— defeat russia. it'll just keep going . and so— defeat russia. it'll just keep going . and so i— defeat russia. it'll just keep going . and so i think from going. and so i think from a now— going. and so i think from a purely domestic— going. and so i think from a purely domestic perspective , purely domestic perspective, it's purely domestic perspective, ii-siino— purely domestic perspective, is iino io — purely domestic perspective, it's time to reassess what are ois— it's time to reassess what are

aims now remain— it's time to reassess what are aims now remain in ukraine and to aims now remain in ukraine and io inini— aims now remain in ukraine and io inini oi— aims now remain in ukraine and to think of this— aims now remain in ukraine and to think of this from a british nonsnooiiwo— to think of this from a british perspective and— to think of this from a british perspective and to decide , perspective and to decide, inonoiono— perspective and to decide, therefore what _ perspective and to decide, therefore what we do next and my wow— therefore what we do next and my is— therefore what we do next and my is inoi— therefore what we do next and my is no wo— therefore what we do next and my view is that we need to take a siigniiw— view is that we need to take a siigniiw ioss— view is that we need to take a slightly less proactive role in the slightly less proactive role in ino wo— slightly less proactive role in the war with— slightly less proactive role in the war with russia than we've ioion — the war with russia than we've ioion so— the war with russia than we've ioion so ion. — the war with russia than we've taken so far. amy— the war with russia than we've taken so far. amy i really oisognoo— taken so far. amy i really disagree with— taken so far. amy i really disagree with you. g taken so far. amy i really disagree with you. believe it or noi.— disagree with you. believe it or noi. i— disagree with you. believe it or not. i think that that's really sad that you said that because this is an attack on a democracy. it's an attack on the west, and therefore it is an attack on us. we need to put everything into making sure that ukraine can regain its independence . i read today that independence. i read today that at a medical facility was bombed and a seven year old and a six year old died. two children lost their lives just this weekend. i mean, amongst the hundreds of other people that have been killed, injured, maimed all the time, we have the military came capabilities. we have a big

amount of artillery that we can put to use for ukraine in in, you know , when you look at it in you know, when you look at it in relation to other g7 countries , relation to other g7 countries, we need to all come together because we're the richest, we have the strongest military, the strongest artillery so need have the strongest military, the stifight;t artillery so need have the strongest military, the stifight this:illery so need have the strongest military, the stifight this enemy so need have the strongest military, the stifight this enemy . but need have the strongest military, the stifight this enemy . but what to fight this enemy. but what would you to fight this enemy. but what wonio won sow— to fight this enemy. but what would you say to— to fight this enemy. but what would you say to ben's- �*" gh but what would you say to ben's point, inoi— would you say to ben's point, no woo— would you say to ben's point, that we're just— would you say to ben's point, that we're just perpetuating the lioioiiw— that we're just perpetuating the war? itotally disagree,- war? i totally disagree, because what since , say, what we've seen since, say, 2014, when we sanctions, we tried to give russia a slap on the all that other stuff. the wrist, all that other stuff. we force. it opened the wrist, all that other stuff. we door. force. it opened the wrist, all that other stuff. we door. so force. it opened the wrist, all that other stuff. we door. so you're. it opened the wrist, all that other stuff. we door. so you're givingened the wrist, all that other stuff. we door. so you're giving putin the door. so you're giving putin exactly what he wants . so us to exactly what he wants. so us to get this war fatigue , the war get this war fatigue, the war fatigue is war fatigue on it's war. it's not war fatigue. i osni— war. it's not war fatigue. i wasn't talking— it's not war fatigue. i wasn't talking about war ioiigno— wasn't talking about war fatigue. what— wasn't talking about war fatigue. what talking fatigue. what i was talking oooni— fatigue. what i was talking about-initial- fatigue. what i was talking about initial need to about was the initial need to inoi— about was the initial need to ensure that we— about was the initial need to ensure that we weren't directly innooionoo— ensure that we weren't directly innooionoo nw— ensure that we weren't directly threatened by russia with its nissiios— threatened by russia with its nissiios on— threatened by russia with its missiles on the— threatened by russia with its missiles on the polish border, nowing— missiles on the polish border, iong-onoo- missiles on the polish border, having-that, we- missiles on the polish border, having that, we need to having achieved that, we need to sit having achieved that, we need to sii ioon— having achieved that, we need to sii iooi ono— having achieved that, we need to sit back and reassess what we're inwing— sit back and reassess what we're iiwing io— sit back and reassess what we're iiwing io goi— sit back and reassess what we're iiwing io goi oni— sit back and reassess what we're trying to get out of— sit back and reassess what we're trying to get out of this . are trying to get out of this. are you— trying to get out of this. are you advocating— trying to get out of this. are you advocating in your pursuit of you advocating in your pursuit oi ooiooiing— you advocating in your pursuit of defeating russia that we snonio— of defeating russia that we snonio oni— of defeating russia that we should put british boots on the gnonno— should put british boots on the

gnonno on— should put british boots on the ground or american troops on the gnonno— ground or american troops on the gnonno ono— ground or american troops on the ground and engage— ground or american troops on the ground and engage directly with ionssioi — ground and engage directly with russia? hopefully— ground and engage directly with russia? hopefully it- ground and engage directly with russia? g : russia? hopefully it would not come to that. that's why we need. but why are you not prepared to take that step? have need. but why are you not pre so ed to take that step? have need. but why are you not pre so ed to “military step? have need. but why are you not pre so ed to “military force, have need. but why are you not pre so ed to “military force, butle so, so much military force, but why are you not prepared to take that step? have we have the pilots? why are you not prepared?— pilots? why are you not prepared?-said- 7 why are you not prepared? said that this pilots? why are you not- prepared?-said that this was prepared? you said that this was an prepared? you said that this was on oiiooi— prepared? you said that this was an attack, this— prepared? you said that this was an attack, this you— prepared? you said that this was an attack, this you said this. was-on. hopefully was an attack on. hopefully it would come to would never have to come to that. if that. but why? but if it continued continued, it continued continue continued, it may would you why may have to. why would you why do may have to. why would you why oo-inoi— may have to. why would you why oo-inoi ii— may have to. why would you why do _that it doesn't- may have to. why would you why do _that it doesn't comei do you hope that it doesn't come to do you hope that it doesn't come io-io— do you hope that it doesn't come io-io oiio— do you hope that it doesn't come io-io oiiolwnw- do you hope that it doesn't come to-be able .why.you. do you hope that it doesn't come to rule be able why you do you hope that it doesn't come to rule it able why you do you hope that it doesn't come to rule it out? why you do you hope that it doesn't come to rule it out? f you do you hope that it doesn't come to rule it out? f �*" h: not rule it out? because i find what's going on so utterly disgusting thing. well, if it's utterly , why we need utterly disgusting, why we need to everything can. if to do everything we can. if it's utterly west support utterly in the west to support it against what we're doing, what we're doing is throwing money at a war which is becoming in tractable and we're creating an intractable situation out of which neither russia nor ukraine is going to easily emerge . so is going to easily emerge. so the question i have is if- gzg hg g so the question i have is if the niiinoio— the question i have is if the ultimate aim— the question i have is if the ultimate aim is— the question i have is if the ultimate aim is to put russia nnsn— ultimate aim is to put russia nnsn ionssio— ultimate aim is to put russia push russia out— ultimate aim is to put russia push russia out of ukraine, why are we not taking— push russia out of ukraine, why

are we not taking positive ooiion— are we not taking positive ooiion oi— are we not taking positive action of committing our troops ono— action of committing our troops on on— action of committing our troops and our military— action of committing our troops and our military might to ooiooiing— and our military might to defeating russia ? defeating russia? i think by throwing everything that we've got without actually engaging in. so you're not prepared to ioso— in. so you're not prepared to ioso iniiisn— in. so you're not prepared to lose british lives— gh so you're not prepared to lose british lives on this war? won— lose british lives on this war? won noon— lose british lives on this war? won noon io— lose british lives on this war? you need to talk— lose british lives on this war? you need to talk to— lose british lives on this war? you need to talk to you're- lose british lives on this war? you need to talk to you're not prepared to lose british lives on this war presently. but i think need to do everything. think we need to do everything. so democracy so so you're prepared. democracy so you're you're you're too important if you're prepared. if you're prepared to do owonwining— prepared. if you're prepared to do everything there— ”in: if you're prepared to do everything there is to defend oonoonoow— do everything there is to defend democracy that _ do everything there is to defend democracy that would involve nniiing — democracy that would involve nniiing ioois— democracy that would involve putting boots on— democracy that would involve putting boots on the ground, voo— putting boots on the ground, ioo wnoi— putting boots on the ground, you're what you're saying. if i may— you're what you're saying. if i now insi— you're what you're saying. if i may just encapsulate it, is wono— may just encapsulate it, is woo io— may just encapsulate it, is you're to prepared throw money at you're to prepared throw money oi inis— you're to prepared throw money at this problem.— you're to prepared throw money at this problem. you're prepared to at this problem. you're prepared io-inon— at this problem. you're prepared to them armaments, you're to give them armaments, you're nnononoo— to give them armaments, you're nnononooloiiow— to give them armaments, you're prepared-allow the- to give them armaments, you're prepared allow the ukrainians prepared to allow the ukrainians to prepared to allow the ukrainians io iigni— prepared to allow the ukrainians to fight-russians,— prepared to allow the ukrainians to fight russians, but to fight the russians, but wono— to fight the russians, but woo noi— to fight the russians, but you're not prepared to get oinooiiw— you're not prepared to get directly involved to your directly involved to get your goonoiiiiooi— directly involved to get your geopolitical aim , which is the geopolitical aim, which is the ooiooi— geopolitical aim, which is the ooiooi oi— geopolitical aim, which is the defeat of russia— geopolitical aim, which is the defeat of russia and amy are you are defeat of russia and amy are you ono—io— defeat of russia and amy are you ono—io go- defeat of russia and amy are you ono—io go io- defeat of russia and amy are you are—to go to war? i are you prepared to go to war? so are you prepared to go to war? so ii— are you prepared to go to war? so ii inow— are you prepared to go to war? so ii iiow soin— are you prepared to go to war? so if they said you— are you prepared to go to war? so if they said you have- are you prepared to go to war? so if they said you have to- are you prepared to go to war? so if they said you have to go, you said everything at it. you said throw everything at it. no, not. so you're not no, i'm not. no. so you're not prepared put yourself. prepared to put yourself. absolutely to that absolutely has not come to that wnosooio — absolutely has not come to thati whatsoever. _ i've whatsoever. you know what? i've ioon— whatsoever. you know what? i've ioon-nnsi— whatsoever. you know what? i've ioon-nnsi soo- whatsoever. you know what? i've been must see what's been watching must see what's nonnoning. — been watching must see what's happening. there— been watching must see what's happening. hig;”ig �*" happening. there are films. inono— happening. there are films.

inono-oi— happening. there are films. there _of women - happening. there are films. i there _of women like there are films of women like no-inono-s- there are films of women like me,-there's an- there are films of women like me, there's an see me, ukraine. there's an see wnoi-s— me, ukraine. there's an see what's happening ukraine. can me, ukraine. there's an see vtjust. happening ukraine. can me, ukraine. there's an see vtjust. hapiening ukraine. can me, ukraine. there's an see vtjust. hapi answer ukraine. can me, ukraine. there's an see vtjust. hapi answer you aine. can me, ukraine. there's an see vtjust. hapi answer you there, zan i just. can i answer you there, nioosoi— i just. can i answer you there, nioosoi-ono— i just. can i answer you there, please?-are there's- i just. can i answer you there, please? are there's tv please? there are there's a tv nnosonion— please? there are there's a tv nnosonion wno— please? there are there's a tv presenter who worked for the ogniwoioni— presenter who worked for the equivalent of— presenter who worked for the equivalent of mtv in ukraine who is iigniing— equivalent of mtv in ukraine who is iigniing on— equivalent of mtv in ukraine who is fighting on the— equivalent of mtv in ukraine who is fighting on the front line. wis— is fighting on the front line. wis iiio— is fighting on the front line. his life was— is fighting on the front line. his life was completely normal, nnon— his life was completely normal, nnon iiio— his life was completely normal, much like ours— his life was completely normal, much like ours is— his life was completely normal, much like ours is presently . his much like ours is presently. his life much like ours is presently. his iiio nos— much like ours is presently. his life has changed— much like ours is presently. his life has changed completely owonnigni— life has changed completely owonnigni .— life has changed completely overnight . and— life has changed completely overnight . and if you go down overnight. and if you go down non-s— overnight. and if you go down non-s iino— overnight. and if you go down non-s iino oi— overnight. and if you go down ben's line of thinking, you're insi— ben's line of thinking, you're insi going— ben's line of thinking, you're insi going io— ben's line of thinking, you're just going to leave that to go on because because it might oiiooi— on because because it might oiiooi ns— on because because it might oiiooi ns in— on because because it might affect us in the— on because because it might affect us in the uk. not exactly . it affect us in the uk. not exactly . ii oonio— affect us in the uk. not exactly . ii oonio io— affect us in the uk. not exactly . it could be me.— affect us in the uk. not exactly . it could be me. so. so if it came down to— . it could be me. so. so if it came down to and it was me, we'd all came down to and it was me, we'd oii io— came down to and it was me, we'd oii io inono. — came down to and it was me, we'd all be there. but— came down to and it was me, we'd all be there. but you'd- came down to and it was me, we'd all be there. : all be there. but you'd prepare, be prepared it. we'd have be prepared to do it. we'd have to you be prepared to do it. we'd have io-won-ino- be prepared to do it. we'd have io-won-ino nooniol to be. do you think the people do to be. do you think the people oio—wnw— to be. do you think the people do-amv inoi-s- to be. do you think the people do amy that's such to be. do you think the people. do _amy that's such an do you think, amy that's such an inionosiing— do you think, amy that's such an inionosiing wow— do you think, amy that's such an interesting way to _ do you think, amy that's such an interesting way to approach a son— interesting way to approach a sort-situation- interesting way to approach a sort-situation .- interesting way to approach a sort situation . it's sort of gotcha situation. it's noi— sort of gotcha situation. it's not- situation. - sort of gotcha situation. it's not situation. there sort of gotcha situation. it's not people situation. there sort of gotcha situation. it's not people in situation. there sort of gotcha situation. it's not people in ukraine. there sort of gotcha situation. it's not people in ukraine whoire are people in ukraine who had iiwos— are people in ukraine who had iiwos. ixooiiw— are people in ukraine who had lives. exactly like— are people in ukraine who had lives. exactly like us. ' lives. exactly like us. amy, we've seen this— lives. exactly like us. amy, we've seen this play out. we've seen wars like ukraine play out time and time again. we've seen it repeatedly . we saw it in it repeatedly. we saw it in iraq. we saw it in afghanistan. we saw it in syria. we we've seen it in libya. we absolutely nearly toppled egypt with the

same kind of approach. what we do in the west, which we do very well, is chuck money at wars and fight proxy wars. and i've got to fight proxy wars. and i've got io osi— fight proxy wars. and i've got io osi won— fight proxy wars. and i've got to ask you before— fight proxy wars. and i've got to ask you before we- �*" gh and i've got to ask you before we finish this to ask you before we finiin this up, to ask you before we finish this ups-amy's— to ask you before we finish this nnlwnw-s noini— to ask you before we finish this up,.amy's point is- to ask you before we finish this up, amy's point is quite up, so amy's point is quite good.— up, so amy's point is quite gooo. inongn— up, so amy's point is quite good, though, because in a sense she good, though, because in a sense sno-so— good, though, because in a sense sno-so won-o- good, though, because in a sense sno-so won-o io- she said that. so you'd be nnononoo— she said that. so you'd be nnononoolsow— she said that. so you'd be prepared say that war prepared to say that war osooioios— prepared to say that war escalates, you- prepared to say that war escalates, you would allow it to osooioio. — escalates, you would allow it to osooioio. .no— escalates, you would allow it to escalate. - no, - no, - escalates, you would allow it to escalate. .no, .no, no. i escalates, you would allow it to escawar, .no, .no, no. i escalates, you would allow it to esca g g g the war, the geopolitical it's become an intractable position. so the so the line that the british government has is it's up to the ukrainians to decide when this war should end. and on what terms it should end. well, actually, i disagree where financing the war, where providing the artillery, we should the table should have a seat at the table on war ends, because it on how this war ends, because it is british money and british armaments that are going into it. are causing the death of it. we are causing the death of people. let's be let's be clear about i would i would about this. i would say i would say— about this. i would say i would sow i— about this. i would say i would sow i wonio— about this. i would say i would sow i wonio sow— about this. i would say i would say i would say putin- i would say i would say i would say putin causing i would say i would say death.d say putin causing i would say i would say death.d say butn causing i would say i would say death.d say but we causing i would say i would say death.d say but we are.sing the death. yeah, but we are. ioo-s— the death. yeah, but we are. ioi-s nowo— the death. yeah, but we are. let's have-look- the death. yeah, but we are. let's have look at what the death. yeah, but we are.- let's iin. _look at what the death. yeah, but we are. let's iin. look at what the death. yeah, but we are. let's iin. iii?”ook at what the death. yeah, but we are. let's iin. phillip we're in. that war on. phillip sonoiioio— we're in. that war on. phillip schofield because— we're in. phillip schofield because we're talking oooni—iinool about schofield again. linda sows—oil says honestly, not a fan of iniiiin— says honestly, not a fan of phillip schofield holly. i'm phillip schofield or holly. i'm sioi— phillip schofield or holly. i'm sioiloooin— phillip schofield or holly. i'm sick-death with— phillip schofield or holly. i'm sick death with this. see? sick to death with this. see? iigni. — sick to death with this. see? ioigni ioo-s— sick to death with this. see? right. let's see.— sick to death with this. see? right. let's see. john says. iniiiin— right. let's see. john says. phillip schofield had an affair.

woining— phillip schofield had an affair. wooing-.— phillip schofield had an affair. nothing-. well,- phillip schofield had an affair. nothing . well, that's phillip schofield had an affair. notprivate . well, that's phillip schofield had an affair. notprivate life, . well, that's phillip schofield had an affair. notprivate life, notell, that's phillip schofield had an affair. notprivate life, not ourthat's his private life, not our insinoss — his private life, not our business. one- his private life, not our business. one says. i'm far more inionosioo— business. one says. i'm far more inionosioo in— business. one says. i'm far more interested in the— business. one says. i'm far more interested in the stop oil ooiiwisis— interested in the stop oil activists and— interested in the stop oil activists and phillip schofield. interested in the stop oil activizthat'si phillip schofield. interested in the stop oil activizthat's a’hillip schofield. interested in the stop oil activizthat's a good» schofield. interested in the stop oil activizthat's a good thingfield. interested in the stop oil activizthat's a good thing then. well, that's a good thing then. woii— well, that's a good thing then. woii-gioo— well, that's a good thing then. woii-gioo won— well, that's a good thing then. well, glad you could have well, i'm glad you could have ioii— well, i'm glad you could have on ns— well, i'm glad you could have told us about— well, i'm glad you could have told us about why— well, i'm glad you could have told us about why you're interested— told us about why you're. interested _you're interested and what you're inionosioo— interested about. that would be nsoini— interested about. that would be more useful, actually, to be ioii— more useful, actually, to be ioinlioi-s— more useful, actually, to be fair. .let's move - more useful, actually, to be fair. let's move on. another fair. but let's move on. another ionno— fair. but let's move on. another ooioiolioon— fair. but let's move on. another debate.-been-yearsl debate. it's been seven years sinoo— debate. it's been seven years since-referendum. debate. it's been seven years since referendum , debate. it's been seven years- since-referendum , and since the brexit referendum, and noinon—iu- rather than leaving the eu boning— rather than leaving the eu boning-noi- rather than leaving the eu behind, poll suggests that behind, a new poll suggests that inon— behind, a new poll suggests that more than half— behind, a new poll suggests that more than half of— behind, a new poll suggests that more than half of voters now wono— more than half of voters now want britain— more than half of voters now want britain forge closer want britain to forge closer iios— want britain to forge closer oios-iii— want britain to forge closer oios-in .— want britain to forge closer ties-eu . now,- want britain to forge closer ties eu . now, bear in ties to the eu. now, bear in mino— ties to the eu. now, bear in mind inoi— ties to the eu. now, bear in mind that story— ties to the eu. now, bear in mind that story come mind that story has come from the mind that story has come from ino innnon.— mind that story has come from the guardian. saying the guardian. i'm just saying inn.— the guardian. i'm just saying inn-insi— the guardian. i'm just saying that.-just saying- the guardian. i'm just saying that. just saying i know. the guardian. i'm just saying thatthe just saying i know. the guardian. i'm just saying thatthe actualiaying i know. the guardian. i'm just saying thatthe actual poll] i know. the guardian. i'm just saying thatthe actual poll comesiv. the guardian. i'm just saying thatthe actual poll comes from but the actual poll comes from ooio. — but the actual poll comes from ooio. ini— but the actual poll comes from ooio. nni ino— but the actual poll comes from data. but the story— but the actual poll comes from data. but the story was nosiiionoo— data. but the story was positioned the guardian and positioned in the guardian and the positioned in the guardian and oio-is— positioned in the guardian and the-is, according- positioned in the guardian and the is, according to a poll the info is, according to a poll by the info is, according to a poll iw-ooiioo— the info is, according to a poll by-called data,- the info is, according to a poll by called data, 63% of by a foe called data, 63% of ooniis— by a foe called data, 63% of adults-brexit- by a foe called data, 63% of adults-brexit has. adults believe brexit has onooioo— adults believe brexit has created more— adults believe brexit has created more problems than it nos— created more problems than it nos soiwoo— created more problems than it nos soiwoo .— created more problems than it has solved . and— created more problems than it has solved . and in brexit, has solved. and even in brexit, iooiing— has solved. and even in brexit, backing constituencies and more inon— backing constituencies and more inon-os— backing constituencies and more inon-os nonw— backing constituencies and more than as many voters now than twice as many voters now inini— than twice as many voters now inini inoi— than twice as many voters now inini inoi wo— than twice as many voters now think that we should forge oioson— think that we should forge closer ties— think that we should forge closer ties with— think that we should forge closer ties with brussels . so closer ties with brussels. so wnoi— closer ties with brussels. so wnoi oo— closer ties with brussels. so what do .think?- closer ties with brussels. so what do think? should the what do you think? should the gowonnnoni— what do you think? should the government-our- government improve our noioiionsnin— government improve our. relationship_? i relationship with the eu? i inini— relationship with the eu? i inini i— relationship with the eu? i think i should— relationship with the eu? i think i should have come to you iooonso— think i should have come to you because—brexiti because you are a former brexit party— because you are a former brexit ionw-onoo- because you are a former brexit ionw-inono now- because you are a former brexit party there may be party mep. now there may be sonoining— party mep. now there may be something—agree. party mep. now there may be something agree on something amy and i agree on nono— something amy and i agree on iono—ino- something amy and i agree on here—the brexit- something amy and i agree oni

here _the brexit deal here maybe that the brexit deal inoi— here maybe that the brexit deal inoi ionis— here maybe that the brexit deal that boris johnson— here maybe that the brexit deal that boris johnson signed is a ionniiio— that boris johnson signed is a terrible deal— that boris johnson signed is a terrible deal for— that boris johnson signed is a terrible deal for the united kingdom.— terrible deal for the united kingdom, where we will disagree is ino— kingdom, where we will disagree is ino nonnoi— kingdom, where we will disagree is the nature of— kingdom, where we will disagree is the nature of the relationship we should have is the nature of the— relationship we should have had won— relationship we should have had won ino— relationship we should have had won ino iii— relationship we should have had with the eu post— relationship we should have had with the eu post brexit and the nosiiion— with the eu post brexit and the nosiiion inoi— with the eu post brexit and the position that i— with the eu post brexit and the position that i have is that the gowonnnoni— position that i have is that the government should have delivered wnoi— government should have delivered wnoi ii— government should have delivered what it promised— government should have delivered what it promised it— government should have delivered what it promised it would do on the what it promised it would do on ino iioioi— what it promised it would do on the ticket, which— what it promised it would do on the ticket, which was that the iniioo— the ticket, which was that the united kingdom _ the ticket, which was that the united kingdom would leave the eu united kingdom would leave the in . — united kingdom would leave the iu . wnon— united kingdom would leave the in . wion wo— united kingdom would leave the eu . when we voted— united kingdom would leave the eu . when we voted to- united kingdom would leave the eu . h : eu. when we voted to leave the eu. when we voted to leave the eu , we didn't vote for to eu, we didn't vote for to northern ireland be subject to their laws adjudicated by their court. we didn't vote for great britain as distinct from northern ireland, tying itself at the hip with the eu on state aid laws, employment, environmental and competition laws. we didn't agree to allow them to go on raping our territorial waters of its fish. we didn't agree that we would join horizon europe , which in join horizon europe, which in amongst all the things that it it does is military research for the european union. these are all the things that we've got as all the things that we've got as a result of the deal that boris johnson with the eu. and the johnson did with the eu. and the

only real way to get out of the eu, the only real way to liberate the united kingdom , to liberate the united kingdom, to make policies for british national interests. what is the real way is to leave without a deal. real way is to leave without a deal . and that's what we should deal. and that's what we should have done. amy but the vote ioowo— have done. amy but the vote leave campaign— : ' but the vote leave campaign never, never snggosioo— leave campaign never, never snggosioo wo— leave campaign never, never suggested we would leave the goonnnnoni— suggested we would leave the government, the _ suggested we would leave the government, the prime minister soio— government, the prime minister soio wnon— government, the prime minister soio wnon won— government, the prime minister said when you if— government, the prime minister said when you if you vote to ioowo— said when you if you vote to ioowo ino — said when you if you vote to leave the eu— said when you if you vote to leave the eu ,_ said when you if you vote to leave the eu , we- said when you if you vote to leave the eu , we will leave the leave the eu, we will leave the singio— leave the eu, we will leave the single market. _ leave the eu, we will leave the single market. we— leave the eu, we will leave the single market. �*fiiig ll leave the eu, we will leave the single market. �*vwiig; l: leave the eu, we will leave the single market. �*soiig; l: single market. we will leave the customs union. that's what david cameron repeatedly said during the campaign to propose the was the campaign to propose the was the prime minister propose a referendum . and he was the prime referendum. and he was the prime iiinision— referendum. and he was the prime minister campaign— referendum. and he was the prime minister campaign said— ”ig�*"ig”igh:. and he was the prime minister campaign said we won't nooossoniiw— minister campaign said we won't necessarily-the— minister campaign said we won't necessarily the single necessarily leave the single nonioi— necessarily leave the single. nonioi—inoi necessarily leave the single. noninon—inoi necessarily leave the single. marthen.did.-that necessarily leave the single. marthen.did. i-that necessarily leave the single marthen did. i don't that necessarily leave the single marthen did. i don't careiat and then he did. i don't care wnoi— and then he did. i don't care what-johnson- and then he did. i don't care what johnson said, we what boris johnson said, we woioo— what boris johnson said, we voted-because- what boris johnson said, we voted because that's what voted for because that's what noonio— voted for because that's what noonio-. — voted for because that's what noonio-. iwoioni voted for because that's what- people -. .voted .was people voted. we voted for was for united kingdom to leave for the united kingdom to leave the and the uk has not left the eu and the uk has not left the eu and the uk has not left the eu. there are ways of doing inoi— the eu. there are ways of doing that-remaining— the eu. there are ways of doing that-remaining in- the eu. there are ways of doing that-remaining in the- there are ways of doing that remaining in the single that and remaining in the single nonioi— market, and that's what i his nonoining—wowl market, and that's what i his. remaining—way would remaining what what way would inoi— remaining what what way would inoi-onwwow.— remaining what what way would inoi-onwwow. oon- remaining what what way would that-anyway, can i- remaining what what way would that anyway, can i just that be? but anyway, can i just ioons— that be? but anyway, can i just focus-because— that be? but anyway, can i just focus-because you- that be? but anyway, can i just focus because you talk focus on because you talk about iiio— focus on because you talk about iino-ono— focus on because you talk about like-and this— focus on because you talk about like-and this-it- like fish and this and did it a lot like fish and this and did it a ioi in— like fish and this and did it a ioi in non— like fish and this and did it a lot in real life.— like fish and this and did it a lot in real life. you promised inoi— lot in real life. you promised no is— lot in real life. you promised no is non— lot in real life. you promised

that is real life.— lot in real life. you promised that is real life. you promised no— that is real life. you promised no . ion— that is real life. you promised me . you promised me cheaper me. you promised me cheaper oioinos— me. you promised me cheaper clothes, cheaper— me. you promised me cheaper clothes, cheaper .— me. you promised me cheaper clothes, cheaper . i me. you promised me cheaper clothes, cheaper. i didn't nnoniso— clothes, cheaper. i didn't nnoniso won— clothes, cheaper. i didn't promise you anything. lower innignoiion— promise you anything. lower immigration figures. my, my dad woioo— immigration figures. my, my dad woioo io— immigration figures. my, my dad voted to leave— immigration figures. my, my dad voted to leave and— immigration figures. my, my dad voted to leave and i remember gooo— voted to leave and i remember good on— voted to leave and i remember gooo ino— voted to leave and i remember good man. the reasons why he oio.— good man. the reasons why he oio. ano— good man. the reasons why he iii. no won.— good man. the reasons why he did. and you, not— good man. the reasons why he did. and you, not you personally voio— did. and you, not you personally voio ioowo— did. and you, not you personally vote leave campaign did not keep a vote leave campaign did not keep o singio— vote leave campaign did not keep o singio nnoniso— vote leave campaign did not keep a single promise. and they have let a single promise. and they have ioi oown— a single promise. and they have let down those— a single promise. and they have let down those people clearly. wnion— let down those people clearly. wnion is— let down those people clearly. wnion is wnw— let down those people clearly. wnion is why- — let down those people clearly. which is why . �*fii’h ith let down those people clearly. which is why . �*fi’h nth n: n: which is why. which promise did they break? cheaper food, onoonon— they break? cheaper food, cheaper clothes? - 7 cheaper food, cheaper clothes? �*fi’hig’h n: n: they break? cheaper food,- cheaper clothes? when did they when did they lower immigration figures? £350 million to the nhs . ino— figures? £350 million to the nhs . ino wwso — figures? £350 million to the nhs . the nhs? the— figures? £350 million to the nhs . the nhs? the nhs,- figures? £350 million to the nhs . the nhs? the nhs, by- �*7 g. ”ig~;fn7’ £350 million to the nhs .the nhs? \n �*7 g. ”ig~;fn7’ £350 million to the nhs . the nhs? \n . the nhs? the nhs, by the way, has had that and some. nobody believed that— has had that and some. nobody believed that the— has had that and some. nobody believed that the nhs- has had that and some. nobody believed that the nhs is- h?n: ?h: nobody believed that the nhs is in a sioio— believed that the nhs is in a worse state than— believed that the nhs is in a worse state than it was when. inoi—ii- worse state than it was when. that—it hasn't. worse state than it was when.- that_it hasn't had that doesn't mean it hasn't had the that doesn't mean it hasn't had ino ioso— that doesn't mean it hasn't had the £350 million— that doesn't mean it hasn't had the £350 million on the nhs. ini— the £350 million on the nhs. in ioo-s— the £350 million on the nhs. in ioi-s noi— the £350 million on the nhs. but let's not forget— the £350 million on the nhs. but let's not forget covid - the £350 million on the nhs. but let's not forget covid covid did come in put of did come in and put a bit of a spannen did come in and put a bit of a spanner. so when we about spanner. so when we talk about the nhs, be fair. it's the nhs, let's be fair. it's always to be the nhs, let's be fair. it's. always-to be intriguing the nhs, let's be fair. it's- always-to be intriguing to always going to be intriguing to me always going to be intriguing to no—ioowo- me that we'd want to leave a nooiiw— me that we'd want to leave a nooiiw gooo— me that we'd want to leave a really good club. _ me that we'd want to leave a really good club. it's not a nooiiw— really good club. it's not a nooiiw gooo— really good club. it's not a really good club, it's an anti oonoonoiio— really good club, it's an anti democratic organisation . the democratic organisation. the iows— democratic organisation. the iows inoi— democratic organisation. the laws that went— democratic organisation. the laws that went through the. so we were almost— laws that went through the. so we were almost in— laws that went through the. so we were almost in charge of that on — we were almost in charge of that on wo— we were almost in charge of that on wo. wo— we were almost in charge of that club. no, we were— we were almost in charge of that club. no, we were not- we were almost in charge of that club. \nig.i niigig gh we were almost in charge of that club. \ig.i gh tg

club. no, we were not in charge of that club. that club is run by a bunch of commissioners who are unelected or unaccountable. the only mechanism by which laws are introduced in the eu is by eu commissioners . the parliament eu commissioners. the parliament doesn't suggest laws . their doesn't suggest laws. their parliament doesn't do it. the european, the council of the european, the council of the european union doesn't suggest laws . they can. they can ofsted laws. they can. they can ofsted forcibly stop laws. but the only originator of laws is the commission. it is an anti democratic organisation laws were serving us absolutely fine . no they weren't. every time we nono— . no they weren't. every time we noio o— . no they weren't. every time we noio o onongo— . no they weren't. every time we make a change to— no they weren't. every time we make a change to any of those iows— make a change to any of those iows wo— make a change to any of those iows wo nooo— make a change to any of those laws, we have to— make a change to any of those laws, we have to pay public nonow— laws, we have to pay public nonow io— laws, we have to pay public money to tweak— laws, we have to pay public money to tweak and move and sniii— money to tweak and move and sniii ononno— money to tweak and move and shift around and— money to tweak and move and shift around and brexit is oosiing— shift around and brexit is oosiing ns— shift around and brexit is costing us all.- shift around and brexit is costing us all. it is costing owonw— costing us all. it is costing owonw wiowo— costing us all. it is costing every viewer at— costing us all. it is costing every viewer at least £1,000 oins.— every viewer at least £1,000 nins. wnono— every viewer at least £1,000 plus. where do— every viewer at least £1,000 plus. where do you get that stat inoni — plus. where do you get that stat inoni wnon— plus. where do you get that stat from? where did— plus. where do you get that stat from? where did you- plus. where do you get that stat from? i,:,.ns.;s.; n: n: gig. plus. where do you get that stat from? gig from? where did you get that from? where did you get that from? amy i can't remember off the top of my head where i got that from. that's just. just iooi— that from. that's just. just iooi nn— that from. that's just. just iooi nn. ioon— that from. that's just. just look up. look up.- that's just. just look up. look up. average cost ino— look up. look up. average cost ino oonoog— look up. look up. average cost the average cost— look up. look up. average cost the average cost of brexit to an oonoog— the average cost of brexit to an average income person per year. let average income person per year. ioo-insi— average income person per year. ioo-insi ooiino— average income person per year. let just define what brexit let me just define what brexit is. — let me just define what brexit is. ioi— let me just define what brexit is. ioi nno— let me just define what brexit is. ioi no insi— let me just define what brexit is. let me just define- let me just define what brexit is. :ig

is. let me just define what brexit no. brexit is. brexit disaster. no. brexit is. brexit disaster. no. brexit brexit is simply the desire to govern our own country. if you think that governing your own country is by definition a disaster , then definition a disaster, then you're really in the wrong country. amy forgive me. what has governing our— country. amy forgive me. what has governing our own- ign”g what has governing our own country inongni— has governing our own country inongni no— has governing our own country inongni no so— has governing our own country brought me so far? wyndham is full brought me so far? wyndham is inii oi— brought me so far? wyndham is inii oi oogo— brought me so far? wyndham is full of sewage since brexit. it ini— full of sewage since brexit. it in onoo-s.— full of sewage since brexit. it but that's. that's— full of sewage since brexit. it but that's. that's not the nnoxii— but that's. that's not the brexit issue. _ but that's. that's not the brexit issue. that's a failure of governance. _ brexit issue. that's a failure of governance. the worst economic growth by russia, which is onnnoniiw— economic growth by russia, which is currently engaged in a war we've economically sanctioned ourselves through— we've economically sanctioned ourselves through brexit. so the reason we've got— ourselves through brexit. so the reason we've got anti—democratic nwo— reason we've got anti—democratic woo. ino— reason we've got anti—democratic rac, the reason— reason we've got anti—democratic rac, the reason we've got awful gnowin— rac, the reason we've got awful gnowin is— rac, the reason we've got awful growth is because— rac, the reason we've got awful growth is because of the sooioiisi— growth is because of the socialist policies . /ig.n. ?h: growth is because of the socialist policies . h/ign. ?h: socialist policies. you and i iows— socialist policies. you and i have just been discussing. the conservative an intervention in charge for 30. absolutely. and i'm very critical of this conservative party. they are not conservative. they're basically socialists. the civil service has grown from 480,000 to 530,000 under this government . 530,000 under this government. national debt has gone up to 100% of gdp under this

government . taxes we've government. taxes we've discussed already are 70 year high. this government's been a disaster for the economic management of the united kingdom. hang on. so then the gnosiion— kingdom. hang on. so then the gnosiion-ino- kingdom. hang on. so then the question-the question. g: hang on. so then the question the question , question leads to the question, snonio— question leads to the question, snonioiionn — question leads to the question, should form closer should we form closer relationships- should we form closer relationships with the eu? �*finig; relationships with the eu? we snonin— relationships with the eu? we sionin io— relationships with the eu? we should be breaking— relationships with the eu? we should be breaking free- relationships with the eu? we should be breaking free of the eu, break free, leave our own politicians to do the job. certainly politicians to do the job. certaihasn't we haven't well, hasn't it? we haven't inoion— well, hasn't it? we haven't broken-think,- well, hasn't it? we haven't broken think, amy. we broken free, i think, amy. we nowon-i—oi- broken free, i think, amy. wei haven't—of people haven't broken free of people are haven't broken free of people happy— haven't broken free of people bappy ono— haven't broken free of people are happy and consider brexit in any are happy and consider brexit in onw wow— are happy and consider brexit in any way successful. you've let. wnono— any way successful. you've let. wnono oio— any way successful. you've let. wnono oio won— any way successful. you've let. where did you get— any way successful. you've let. where did you get that statistic ioni— where did you get that statistic inoni inoi-s— where did you get that statistic from? that's a— where did you get that statistic from? that's a yougov. nt.?h from? that's a yougov. i can give— from? that's a yougov. i can give won— from? that's a yougov. i can give you statistic actually give you a statistic actually from bloomberg. apparently brexit costing the uk 100 brexit is costing the uk 100 billion that's and it's billion a year. that's and it's going to shrink our economy by 4% in the long run. bloomberg oonnoignoo— ”in? h g g”.h bloomberg campaigned vociferously for ionoin— campaigned vociferously for remain that— campaigned vociferously for remain that focal data analysis was commissioned by best for oiioin— was commissioned by best for britain. another— was commissioned by best for britain. another vitriolically remain organisation propagate ooviio— remain organisation propagate oovio by— remain organisation propagate oovio by ino— remain organisation propagate covid by the guardian, which you oonnooiiw— covid by the guardian, which you correctly identify _ covid by the guardian, which you correctly identify and best of oiioin— correctly identify and best of iniioin. by— correctly identify and best of britain. by the _ correctly identify and best of britain. by the way, while we're on ino— britain. by the way, while we're on ino snow-ooi.— britain. by the way, while we're on the subject, is— britain. by the way, while we're on the subject, is chaired by a guy— on the subject, is chaired by a gnw ooiioo— on the subject, is chaired by a gnw ooiioo iin— on the subject, is chaired by a guy called kim darroch. lord ionnon.— guy called kim darroch. lord darroch,_being. darroch, who's now being investigated— darroch, who's now being investigated allegedly for soiiing— investigated allegedly for selling secrets for sex. that's

ino— selling secrets for sex. that's ino soni— selling secrets for sex. that's ino soni oi— selling secrets for sex. that's the sort of organisation i don't wono— the sort of organisation i don't woni io— the sort of organisation i don't want to digress— the sort of organisation i don't want to digress. _ the sort of organisation i don't want to digress . �*fi�*h? want to digress. what about what about he's not on trial about wait, he's not on trial here. on trial here? here. he's not on trial here? no.— here. he's not on trial here? wo-noi— here. he's not on trial here? wo-noi nono— here. he's not on trial here? no,-not here to- here. he's not on trial here? no, not here to defend no, he's not here to defend himself. have any himself. we don't have any evidence so we'll evidence of that. so we'll retract that just quickly, because unfair. because that's a bit unfair. well, it's allegedly it is oiiogoo— well, it's allegedly it is alleged-the- well, it's allegedly it is alleged the high court, alleged in the high court, aiiogooiw. — allegedly. it doesn't cover everything. just say everything. you can't just say something allegedly something and then say allegedly at it. that doesn't at the end of it. that doesn't that work that. that doesn't work like that. yeah. so really, look, yeah. so really, i mean, look, l, yeah. so really, i mean, look, i, politicians should i, i our own politicians should be of this and they're be in charge of this and they're doing i'd doing a very bad job. so i'd agree you. but what agree with all of you. but what is with controlling agree with all of you. but what is own with controlling agree with all of you. but what is own destiny? th controllingso our own destiny? and why it's so silly ? and nobody said that we silly? and nobody said that we don't want close links to eu silly? and nobody said that we d0ibeneficialose links to eu silly? and nobody said that we d0ibeneficial . the ks to eu silly? and nobody said that we d0ibeneficial . the numbers eu silly? and nobody said that we d0ibeneficial . the numbers are so beneficial. the numbers are inono— so beneficial. the numbers are inono noi— so beneficial. the numbers are inono noi io— so beneficial. the numbers are there not to everybody- there not to everybody economically- there not to everybody economically better off to be in the economically better off to be in ino ii— economically better off to be in ino in onon— economically better off to be in the eu than out— economically better off to be in the eu than out the eu, says. wioo— the eu than out the eu, says. wnoi says— the eu than out the eu, says. wnoi sows ino — the eu than out the eu, says. who? says the literal cost of ino— who? says the literal cost of ino ononni— who? says the literal cost of the amount the— who? says the literal cost of the amount the membership of the eu the amount the membership of the in onss— the amount the membership of the in ino— the amount the membership of the eu versus the benefits that we got eu versus the benefits that we goi inon — eu versus the benefits that we goi inon ii— eu versus the benefits that we goi inon ii i— eu versus the benefits that we got from it ? we're now doing got from it? we're now doing nooo— got from it? we're now doing inooo wiin— got from it? we're now doing trade with, say,— got from it? we're now doing trade with, say, austria for amy insiooo— trade with, say, austria for amy insiooo oi— trade with, say, austria for amy instead of france— trade with, say, austria for amy instead of france national debt to instead of france national debt io io— instead of france national debt io no in— instead of france national debt io no in o— instead of france national debt to be in a trading— instead of france national debt to be in a trading bloc with our noignionns— to be in a trading bloc with our noignionns .— to be in a trading bloc with our neighbours , not— to be in a trading bloc with our neighbours , not with other neighbours, not with the other sioo—woii- neighbours, not with the other side _well, let's. side of the world. well, let's wnoi— side of the world. well, let's see what you've— side of the world. well, let's see what you've been saying, iooonso— because lots of you have been going— getting in touch. let's have a ioon.— getting in touch. let's have a look. benefits

look. jill says the benefits system talking system is more we're talking about benefits. it's more than than minimum know than the minimum wage. we know why coming here. it's why people are coming here. it's not science. pretty not rocket science. seems pretty obvious well. ian says obvious to me as well. ian says . whatever happened supply . whatever happened to supply and cheap immigrant and demand? cheap immigrant workers stopped. the workers should be stopped. the wages for those menial jobs do or do . jobs no one will do is or do. jobs no one will do is too low. then we've got steve and he says the uk should have closer ties with the eu but should focus on closer ties with canada. new zealand and australia. and ian says we voted leave to gain independence from the eu, not stay under the the eu, not to stay under the undemocratic control . well, i'm undemocratic control. well, i'm sort you that. look sort of with you on that. look we politicians would we thought our politicians would do job. they failed do a decent job. they failed miserably. still waiting miserably. we're still waiting for do something decent. for them to do something decent. we're on the we're going to carry on with the theme immigration. in my theme of immigration. in my monologue be talking monologue where i'll be talking about wonderful little about the wonderful little videos they've together. videos they've put together. yes. people yes. to convince people smugglers and people who want to come across to this country illegally, that shouldn't illegally, that they shouldn't do because video tells do so, because the video tells you not do. i mean, how you not to do. i mean, how foolish or the foolish do they think we or the smugglers are? i'll be talking about that in the next for about that in the next hour for my monologue. tuned . do not

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hello. good afternoon . it's hello. good afternoon. it's 4:00. this is gb news. we are the people's channel. i'm nana akua live on tv online and on digital radio for the next two hours, me and my panel will be taking on some of the big topics hitting the headlines right now. this is all about opinion. this show is all about opinion. it's mine is theirs, and of course, it's yours. we'll be debating, and at debating, discussing, and at times will disagree. but no times we will disagree. but no one be cancelled . so one will be cancelled. so joining me today is broadcaster and author christine hamilton and author christine hamilton and also broadcaster and journalist danny kelly. before we get started , let's get your

we get started, let's get your latest news headlines . thank you latest news headlines. thank you very much, latest news headlines. thank you wonw mug. wono.— latest news headlines. thank you very much, nana. the— : thank you very much, nana. the latest from the very much, nana. the latest from ino on— very much, nana. the latest from the gb newsroom.— very much, nana. the latest from the gb newsroom. itv has denied inoi— the gb newsroom. itv has denied inoi inis— the gb newsroom. itv has denied that this morning— the gb newsroom. itv has denied that this morning is— the gb newsroom. itv has denied that this morning is under review following reports the snow— review following reports the snow oonio— review following reports the show could be— review following reports the show could be axed . sources have show could be axed. sources have ioii— show could be axed. sources have on on— show could be axed. sources have on on wows— show could be axed. sources have told gb news that— show could be axed. sources have told gb news that bosses have insi— told gb news that bosses have insi sowon— told gb news that bosses have insi iows— told gb news that bosses have just seven days to— told gb news that bosses have just seven days to save the nnognonno— just seven days to save the programme following the phillip sonoiioio— programme following the phillip schofield affair— programme following the phillip schofield affair .— programme following the phillip schofield affair . staff members schofield affair. staff members wno— schofield affair. staff members wno noisoo— schofield affair. staff members who raised concerns about the tv nosonons— who raised concerns about the tv presenter's actions— who raised concerns about the tv presenter's actions say oooiios— presenter's actions say executives need to prove they're nnononiw— executives need to prove they're properly addressing the issue . properly addressing the issue. ino— properly addressing the issue. the broadcaster— properly addressing the issue. the broadcaster has confirmed the the broadcaster has confirmed ino snow— the broadcaster has confirmed the show will— the broadcaster has confirmed the show will air— the broadcaster has confirmed the show will air tomorrow , but the show will air tomorrow, but viewer opinions— the show will air tomorrow, but viewer opinions vary over the ioiioni— viewer opinions vary over the ioiioni. ii-s— viewer opinions vary over the fallout. it's not— viewer opinions vary over the fallout. it's not really for us to fallout. it's not really for us io inogo— fallout. it's not really for us to judge someone. i mean, what he did and what if it's true that this young chap was 18? there's nothing to do with that. i think he should speak to his family. i will say i think he should speak to his family . i will say that i think he should speak to his family. i will say that i think nonnons— family. i will say that i think nonnons ino— family. i will say that i think perhaps the show— can i will say that i think perhaps the show needs fresh ooonio— perhaps the show needs fresh noonio — perhaps the show needs fresh noonio i— perhaps the show needs fresh people on. i think that the show

nooiiw— people on. i think that the show nooiiw noiioo— people on. i think that the show really relied on— people on. i think that the show really relied on the chemistry inoi— really relied on the chemistry no how— really relied on the chemistry that holly and— really relied on the chemistry that holly and phil had for me. ioss— that holly and phil had for me. ioss .— that holly and phil had for me. ioss . i— that holly and phil had for me. ioss . i on— that holly and phil had for me. less . i am less— that holly and phil had for me. less . i am less keen— that holly and phil had for me. less . i am less keen to- that holly and phil had for me. less. i am less keen to watching the programmes with them as they split. am i right? and i think that holly is going to get the career bigger now. you career even bigger now. you know, i like i like phil and holly, so i'm very sad to see them go because i loved i loved them go because i loved i loved them both. so it's a pity nooiiw.— them both. so it's a pity nooiiw. ano— them both. so it's a pity really. and i— them both. so it's a pity really. and i was- so it's a pity really. and i was shocked to noon— really. and i was shocked to noon oooni— really. and i was shocked to hear about phil— really. and i was shocked to hear about phil because i didn't inini— hear about phil because i didn't inini no-o— hear about phil because i didn't inini no-o oo— hear about phil because i didn't think he'd do anything like onoo.— think he'd do anything like inoi. io— think he'd do anything like inoi. no so— think he'd do anything like that, be so deceitful . well it that, be so deceitful. well it comes as new— that, be so deceitful. well it comes as new details emerge oooni— comes as new details emerge oioni iniiiin— comes as new details emerge about phillip schofield's relationship— about phillip schofield's relationship with the young itv onniowoo— relationship with the young itv onniowoo wno — relationship with the young itv employee who was reportedly 15 woons— employee who was reportedly 15 woons oio— employee who was reportedly 15 years old when— employee who was reportedly 15 years old when the first met the woii— years old when the first met the iioii on— years old when the first met the mail on sunday,— years old when the first met the mail on sunday, says the tv nnosonion— mail on sunday, says the tv presenter arranged an interview for presenter arranged an interview ion nin— presenter arranged an interview ion nm, wnion— presenter arranged an interview for him, which resulted in a job as a runner when— for him, which resulted in a job as a runner when he turned 18. ino— as a runner when he turned 18. iio oiioin— as a runner when he turned 18. the affair started— as a runner when he turned 18. the affair started later. - as a runner when he turned 18. the affair started later. well editor of the mail on sunday, charlotte griffiths, says they were right to question the relationship. it's were right to question the relationship . it's so relationship. it's so unprecedented. - it's so unprecedented. and he relationship. it's so- unprecedented. and he wrote relationship. it's so— unprecedented. and he wrote to ioiio— unprecedented. and he wrote to ioiio iino— unprecedented. and he wrote to katie hind and— unprecedented. and he wrote to katie hind and said, i don't

oxnooi— katie hind and said, i don't oonooi onw— katie hind and said, i don't expect any mercy, which is extraordinary— expect any mercy, which is extraordinary .— expect any mercy, which is extraordinary . and it's because extraordinary. and it's because ooinoiiw— extraordinary. and it's because actually katie _ extraordinary. and it's because actually katie had been very inowo— actually katie had been very inowo ono— actually katie had been very brave and done— actually katie had been very brave and done a story a couple of brave and done a story a couple oi woois— brave and done a story a couple oi woois ogo— brave and done a story a couple of weeks ago that— brave and done a story a couple of weeks ago that sort of went gniio— of weeks ago that sort of went gniio ion— of weeks ago that sort of went gniio ion io— of weeks ago that sort of went quite far to hint— of weeks ago that sort of went quite far to hint at this friendship— quite far to hint at this friendship .— quite far to hint at this friendship . and he sent a friendship. and he sent a oonnioini— friendship. and he sent a complaint to— friendship. and he sent a complaint to the to ipso and soiii— complaint to the to ipso and an, won— complaint to the to ipso and said, you know,— complaint to the to ipso and said, you know, the mail has, you— said, you know, the mail has, won inow— said, you know, the mail has, won inow. goi— said, you know, the mail has, you know, got this, got this wong— you know, got this, got this wrong ano— you know, got this, got this wrong. and of— you know, got this, got this wrong. and of course we hadn't. ano— wrong. and of course we hadn't. and so— wrong. and of course we hadn't. and so no— wrong. and of course we hadn't. and so no os— wrong. and of course we hadn't. and so he was he— wrong. and of course we hadn't. and so he was he was right to onoiogiso— and so he was he was right to onoiogiso. ini— and so he was he was right to apologise. but it's— and so he was he was right to apologise. but it's not very oiion— apologise. but it's not very oiion in— apologise. but it's not very often in showbiz that people do do often in showbiz that people do oo o— often in showbiz that people do do o-noo— often in showbiz that people do do a-mea culpa— often in showbiz that people do do a mea culpa like that do a full mea culpa like that ono— do a full mea culpa like that on sow.— do a full mea culpa like that on sow. oon-i— do a full mea culpa like that and say, don't show me any mercy . woii— and say, don't show me any mercy . woii in— and say, don't show me any mercy . well, in other— and say, don't show me any mercy . well, in other news— and say, don't show me any mercy . well, in other news this- . well, in other news this afternoon , soon a five year old afternoon, soon a five year old girl has died following a house fire in pembrokeshire . despite fire in pembrokeshire. despite the efforts of emergency services as alicia salisbury passed away at the scene of the blaze in the ponty glacier area last night . blaze in the ponty glacier area last night. her family, who described her as a beautiful daughter and sister , are being daughter and sister, are being supported by specialist officers. the force says it is working to establish the cause as the government is launching an ad campaign to stop people

from crossing the channel. the advert said to be circulated in albania next week, will warn people they face being detained and removed if they make the journey. critics have already branded it as pointless , saying branded it as pointless, saying it won't deter them . a record it won't deter them. a record number of people made the crossing in small boats last year and more than 6000 have been intercepted so far this year. been intercepted so far this year . meanwhile, labour says it year. meanwhile, labour says it would impose time limits on hiring overseas workers in a bid to kerb migration. the shadow home secretary , yvette cooper, home secretary, yvette cooper, has told the sunday telegraph it would serve as an incentive to train british workers. she also suggested the party would ask the migration advisory committee for appropriate timescales for importing labour, while former defence secretary lord john hutton says it's a balancing act and the economy also needs to be considered. there's and the economy also needs to be considered . there's no easy considered. there's no easy soiniion— considered. there's no easy soiniion io— considered. there's no easy solution to this— t :ig”ig;n: there's no easy solution to this problem though it's solution to this problem though is o— solution to this problem though is o gioioi— solution to this problem though it's a global phenomenon. people are it's a global phenomenon. people mowing— it's a global phenomenon. people are moving around— it's a global phenomenon. people are moving around and i think goi— are moving around and i think goi io— are moving around and i think we've got to certainly deal with

the we've got to certainly deal with ino ioois— we've got to certainly deal with ino ioois .— we've got to certainly deal with the boats , the— we've got to certainly deal with the boats , the illegal entry, the boats, the illegal entry, ini— the boats, the illegal entry, in i— the boats, the illegal entry, in i inini— the boats, the illegal entry, but i think we've got to take a wow— but i think we've got to take a wow iong.— but i think we've got to take a wow iong. nono— but i think we've got to take a very long, hard look at the oinon— very long, hard look at the other aspects— very long, hard look at the other aspects of- very long, hard look at the other aspects of immigration noiiow. — other aspects of immigration noiiow. oooio— other aspects of immigration policy. david davis referred to ioniiios— policy. david davis referred to families students coming in families of students coming in ono— families of students coming in on so— families of students coming in on so i— families of students coming in and so on. i mean,— families of students coming in and so on. i mean, i think there inings— and so on. i mean, i think there are things that— and so on. i mean, i think there are things that-be- and so on. i mean, i think there are things that be done, but are things that can be done, but it's are things that can be done, but ios-io— are things that can be done, but ii-s-io io— are things that can be done, but it's-to be done— are things that can be done, but it's-to be done-a- are things that can be done, but it's to be done a way it's got to be done in a way inoi—inol it's got to be done in a way- that_the economy that doesn't damage the economy and that doesn't damage the economy ono—gnowin— that doesn't damage the economy and—growth agenda. that doesn't damage the economy and growth agenda . and supports the growth agenda. i and supports the growth agenda. iinini— and supports the growth agenda. iinini inoso— and supports the growth agenda. i think these important i think these are important issues—becausel issues for us now because i inini— issues for us now because i think-economic. issues for us now because i- think-economic growth think securing economic growth is nnoioiiw— think securing economic growth is nnoioiiw ino— think securing economic growth is probably the biggest economic onoiiongo— is probably the biggest economic challenge that— is probably the biggest economic challenge that we— is probably the biggest economic challenge that we face. so supermarkets _ challenge that we face. so supermarkets could be asked to ininoonoo— supermarkets could be asked to ininoonoo o— supermarkets could be asked to introduce a price— supermarkets could be asked to introduce a price cap on basic iooo— introduce a price cap on basic iooo io— introduce a price cap on basic iooo io noin— introduce a price cap on basic food to help struggling households— food to help struggling households . food to help struggling- households . the government is households. the government is reportedly drawing up plans suggesting the move. but a treasury source told the sunday telegraph it would be voluntary . the scheme would see retailers charging the lowest possible amount for products like bread and milk, while food prices, which are expected to keep rising, have increased . by 19.1% rising, have increased. by 19.1% in the year to march . to a just in the year to march. to a just stop oil protesters have been charged after disrupting the

gallagher premiership rugby final at twickenham, 37 year. old 37 year old doctor patrick hart from bristol and 40 year old sam johnson from essex ran onto the pitch and threw orange powder on to the field . play was powder on to the field. play was suspended as the men were escorted from the stadium . escorted from the stadium. they've been charged with aggravated trespass . mars bars aggravated trespass. mars bars are going green , with the are going green, with the company upgrading its packaging to be more environmentally friendly. the wrapper is being switched from plastic to paper as part of a pilot scheme to explore different options as this is gb news, we'll bring you more as it happens. now, though , back to nana.

hello, good , back to nana.- . hello, good afternoon , back to nana.- - hello, good afternoon. .gaa io wono.— . hello, good afternoon. you're hello, good afternoon. you're with me. . hello, good afternoon. you're wiin in— . hello, good afternoon. you're with me. i'm nana— - hello, good afternoon. you're with me. i'm nana akua.- hello, good afternoon. you're with me. i'm nana akua. this is a with me. i'm nana akua. this is o oo— with me. i'm nana akua. this is o on wows— with me. i'm nana akua. this is o on wows-iv— with me. i'm nana akua. this is a gb news tv online and on a gb news on tv online and on oigiioi— a gb news on tv online and on oigiioi nooio. — a gb news on tv online and on digital radio. it's— a gb news on tv online and on digital radio. it's just coming up digital radio. it's just coming nn io— digital radio. it's just coming nn io sowon— digital radio. it's just coming up to seven minutes after 4:00. insiooo— up to seven minutes after 4:00. insiooo oi— up to seven minutes after 4:00. instead of focusing— up to seven minutes after 4:00. instead of focusing on spending ioonowons— instead of focusing on spending ioonowons nonow— instead of focusing on spending taxpayers money directly on sionning— taxpayers money directly on sionning ino— taxpayers money directly on stopping the illegal immigration inon— stopping the illegal immigration inon niooos— stopping the illegal immigration from places where there is no war or persecution and no real insiiiioiio— war or persecution and no real justifiable reason— war or persecution and no real justifiable reason why someone wonio— justifiable reason why someone wonio iioo— justifiable reason why someone would flee apart— justifiable reason why someone would flee apart from for economic reasons, the government nowo— economic reasons, the government nowo oosonn— economic reasons, the government nowo oosonn io— economic reasons, the government have chosen to spend our money on wnoi— have chosen to spend our money on wnoi oon— have chosen to spend our money on what can only— have chosen to spend our money on what can only be— have chosen to spend our money on what can only be described as an on what can only be described as on oowoniising— on what can only be described as an advertising campaign to deter ooonio— an advertising campaign to deter noonio inon— an advertising campaign to deter people from places like albania, not people from places like albania, noi io— people from places like albania, noi io oo— people from places like albania, not to come to— people from places like albania, not to come to the— people from places like albania, not to come to the uk via iiiogoi— not to come to the uk via illegal means— not to come to the uk via illegal means .- not to come to the uk via illegal means. oh, i mean, why ? illegal means. oh, i mean, why? why— illegal means. oh, i mean, why? wnw wonio— illegal means. oh, i mean, why? wnw wonio inow— illegal means. oh, i mean, why? why would they think that someone who— why would they think that someone who is prepared to pay a snnggion— someone who is prepared to pay a smuggler thousands of pounds wonio— smuggler thousands of pounds wonio io— smuggler thousands of pounds wonio io oni— smuggler thousands of pounds would be put off— smuggler thousands of pounds would be put off by this and win— would be put off by this and wnoi nionoi— would be put off by this and what planet have they come from? wnono— what planet have they come from? wnono inis— what planet have they come from? where this would— what planet have they come from? where this would actually work? it's where this would actually work? ii-s insi— where this would actually work? it's just window— where this would actually work? it's just window dressing to mono— it's just window dressing to noio ii— it's just window dressing to make it look— it's just window dressing to make it look like they're ooinoiiw— make it look like they're actually doing something. nonosiiw— actually doing something. honestly they— actually doing something. honestly they think that we're oonnioioiw— honestly they think that we're completely stupid. if this completely stupid. and if this osni— completely stupid. and if this osni inoin— completely stupid. and if this wasn't their-of- completely stupid. and if this

wasn't their of thinking , wasn't their way of thinking, now— wasn't their way of thinking, now singio— wasn't their way of thinking, how stupid are— wasn't their way of thinking, how stupid are they for actually ioiiowing — how stupid are they for actually believing that— how stupid are they for actually believing that this would have any-whatsoever?- believing that this would have any whatsoever? well, any impact whatsoever? well, inis— any impact whatsoever? well, inis is— any impact whatsoever? well, inis is non— any impact whatsoever? well, inis is non oi— any impact whatsoever? well, this is part of rishi sunak plan to this is part of rishi sunak plan io sioo— this is part of rishi sunak plan io sion ino— this is part of rishi sunak plan to stop the boats— this is part of rishi sunak plan to stop the boats who would have inongni— to stop the boats who would have inongni ii— to stop the boats who would have thought it when _ to stop the boats who would have thought it when he— to stop the boats who would have thought it when he said that? inoi— thought it when he said that? no inis— thought it when he said that? no inis is— thought it when he said that? that this is what— thought it when he said that? that this is what he meant? it sonnso— that this is what he meant? it. sounds—together sounds like a plan put together by noiwo— sounds like a plan put together by wono— sounds like a plan put together by naive woke civil servants who iiwo—ino— by naive woke civil servants who live _the action - by naive woke civil servants who live—the action oni live nowhere near the action on ionon— live nowhere near the action on iooioni jebrickw_ live nowhere near the action on robert jenrick, who is now the innignoiion— robert jenrick, who is now the immigration minister. keep up. he immigration minister. keep up. no os— immigration minister. keep up. he was housing— immigration minister. keep up. he was housing then. he was sooioi— he was housing then. he was sooioi oono— he was housing then. he was social care and— he was housing then. he was social care and he's social care and now he's innignoiion— social care and now he's. immigration._the immigration. all that in the snooo— immigration. all that in the snooo oi— immigration. all that in the space of three— immigration. all that in the space of three years, which is a oino— space of three years, which is a oinolio— space of three years, which is a oinolio wnw— space of three years, which is a clue to why nothing gets clue as to why nothing ever gets oono— clue as to why nothing ever gets oono-inis— clue as to why nothing ever gets done this government. clue as to why nothing ever gets done it this government. clue as to why nothing ever gets done it would government. clue as to why nothing ever gets done it would helpirnment. clue as to why nothing ever gets done it would help dispelt. clue as to why nothing ever gets done it would help dispel myths said. it would help dispel myths noooioo— said. it would help dispel myths noooioo by— said. it would help dispel myths noooioo by owii— said. it would help dispel myths peddled by evil people smugglers . on.— peddled by evil people smugglers . on. o— peddled by evil people smugglers . on. on— peddled by evil people smugglers . oh, come on, robert. the oonnoign— . oh, come on, robert. the oonnoign is— . oh, come on, robert. the campaign is starting with aiionio— campaign is starting with albania warning of the strict iii— albania warning of the strict iii iows.— albania warning of the strict new uk laws. don't make me iongi— new uk laws. don't make me iongn. i— new uk laws. don't make me iongn. i noon— new uk laws. don't make me laugh. i mean, this is far from ino— laugh. i mean, this is far from ino innin— laugh. i mean, this is far from ino innin .— laugh. i mean, this is far from the truth . they— laugh. i mean, this is far from the truth . they know and we know the truth. they know and we know onoi— the truth. they know and we know no won— the truth. they know and we know no won nowo— the truth. they know and we know no won nowo o— the truth. they know and we know that you have a near— the truth. they know and we know that you have a near 100% chance of that you have a near 100% chance oi siowing— that you have a near 100% chance oi siowing .— that you have a near 100% chance oi siowing . ono— that you have a near 100% chance of staying , and once— that you have a near 100% chance of staying , and once you get of staying, and once you get nono— of staying, and once you get nono. won-ii— of staying, and once you get here, you'll be— of staying, and once you get here, you'll be looked after ioiion— here, you'll be looked after better than _ here, you'll be looked after better than you— here, you'll be looked after better than you would be in your oonninw— better than you would be in your oonniiw .— better than you would be in your own country . and— better than you would be in your own country . and that is pretty own country. and that is pretty oosw— own country. and that is pretty oosw io— own country. and that is pretty oosw io nn— own country. and that is pretty easy to run away— own country. and that is pretty easy to run away and disappear inio— easy to run away and disappear inio ino— easy to run away and disappear into the black— easy to run away and disappear into the black economy . the into the black economy. the oowonis—

into the black economy. the adverts smack— into the black economy. the adverts smack of— into the black economy. the adverts smack of desperation and wnon— adverts smack of desperation and wnon wono— adverts smack of desperation and wnon woo goi— adverts smack of desperation and when you've got the likes of oow— when you've got the likes of now iinoion— when you've got the likes of gary lineker openly criticising the government's language, his comments attracting global oiioniion— comments attracting global attention, and— comments attracting global attention, and then he's picking up attention, and then he's picking nn owonos— attention, and then he's picking nn owonos ion— attention, and then he's picking up awards for airing his views. oosniio— up awards for airing his views. oosniio ioing— up awards for airing his views. despite being paid for by us. i won— despite being paid for by us. i mean you can see— despite being paid for by us. i mean you can see why a stupid nnonogonoo— mean you can see why a stupid nnonogonoo siwio— mean you can see why a stupid propaganda style video to deter iiiogois— propaganda style video to deter iiiogois inon — propaganda style video to deter illegals from entering the uk wii— illegals from entering the uk wiii io— illegals from entering the uk will be laughed— illegals from entering the uk will be laughed at. i mean, he's snon— will be laughed at. i mean, he's snon o— will be laughed at. i mean, he's such a hypocrite— will be laughed at. i mean, he's such a hypocrite .— will be laughed at. i mean, he's such a hypocrite . anyway, he's such a hypocrite. anyway, he's oonw. — such a hypocrite. anyway, he's oonw. inis— such a hypocrite. anyway, he's gary. this week— such a hypocrite. anyway, he's gary. this week he collected a snon— gary. this week he collected a snoni ono— gary. this week he collected a sport and human— gary. this week he collected a sport and human rights award at a sport and human rights award at o y in— sport and human rights award at a ceremony in rome for his oowoooow— a ceremony in rome for his oowoooow ion— a ceremony in rome for his advocacy for the- a ceremony in rome for his advocacy for the rights of noingoos— advocacy for the rights of refugees and _ advocacy for the rights of refugees and migrants . advocacy for the rights of refugees and migrants. he inowoiioo— refugees and migrants. he travelled all— refugees and migrants. he travelled all way to italy travelled all the way to italy to travelled all the way to italy io nioi— travelled all the way to italy io nioi ii— travelled all the way to italy io nioi i no.— travelled all the way to italy to pick it up. is— travelled all the way to italy to pick it up. is international owono— to pick it up. is international owono ion— to pick it up. is international award for his— to pick it up. is international award for his commitment to nnonoiing— award for his commitment to promoting human rights through his promoting human rights through nis wonw— promoting human rights through nis woni os— promoting human rights through nis woni os o— promoting human rights through his work as a commentator. promoting human rights through his work as a commentator . yes, his work as a commentator. yes, iioiw— his work as a commentator. yes, iioiw is— his work as a commentator. yes, iioiw is ino— his work as a commentator. yes, italy is the home— his work as a commentator. yes, italy is the home of— his work as a commentator. yes, italy is the home of giorgia iioioni. — italy is the home of giorgia iioioni. sno— italy is the home of giorgia meloni. she has— italy is the home of giorgia meloni. she has openly called the meloni. she has openly called ino nignoni— meloni. she has openly called the migrant influx an invasion, but the migrant influx an invasion, in onoi— the migrant influx an invasion, but that won't— the migrant influx an invasion, but that won't bother saint oonw. — but that won't bother saint oonw. no— but that won't bother saint now. no iiwos— but that won't bother saint gary. he lives nowhere near the ioni— gary. he lives nowhere near the ioni oooso— gary. he lives nowhere near the ioni ooosi on— gary. he lives nowhere near the kent coast or a— gary. he lives nowhere near the kent coast or a migrant camp, so he kent coast or a migrant camp, so no on— kent coast or a migrant camp, so no snoni— kent coast or a migrant camp, so he can spout out— kent coast or a migrant camp, so he can spout out all— kent coast or a migrant camp, so he can spout out all the oioninon— he can spout out all the oioninon no— he can spout out all the claptrap he wants until it's in his claptrap he wants until it's in nis own— claptrap he wants until it's in his own backyard— claptrap he wants until it's in his own backyard . which is the his own backyard. which is the onoiion— his own backyard. which is the onwon-ino- his own backyard. which is the problem, the people problem, really. the people noiing— problem, really. the people noiing ino— problem, really. the people making the rules don't live in

the making the rules don't live in ino wono— making the rules don't live in ino wonio won— making the rules don't live in the world you and i live in. inoi-s— the world you and i live in. inoi-s wnw— the world you and i live in. that's why they— the world you and i live in. that's why they can employ a wono— that's why they can employ a woke advertising— that's why they can employ a woke advertising to come woke advertising agency to come up woke advertising agency to come nn wiin— woke advertising agency to come up with delusional— woke advertising agency to come up with delusional adverts oosiing— up with delusional adverts- costing—thousands costing the taxpayer thousands to costing the taxpayer thousands osoo—— costing the taxpayer thousands iosoo— io- costing the taxpayer thousands to _ see, to politely i to potentially see, to politely ioii— to potentially see, to politely tell-criminals— to potentially see, to politely tell criminals what to do. tell the criminals what to do. is— tell the criminals what to do. is o— tell the criminals what to do. it's a complete— tell the criminals what to do. it's a complete waste of our . it's a complete waste of our. iionow— it's a complete waste of our. iionow ioiono— it's a complete waste of our. money before we— it's a complete waste of our. money before we get stuck into the money before we get stuck into ino oonoo— money before we get stuck into the debate, here's— money before we get stuck into the debate, here's what else is ooning— the debate, here's what else is ooning nn— the debate, here's what else is ooning nn iooow— the debate, here's what else is coming up today for the great iniiisn— coming up today for the great british debate.— coming up today for the great british debate. this hour, i'm osiing— british debate. this hour, i'm asking government's asking, is it the government's niooo— asking, is it the government's niooolio— asking, is it the government's niooolio oonning- asking, is it the government's place be capping food prices place to be capping food prices ? place to be capping food prices iaooonoing— place to be capping food prices ? according to— place to be capping food prices ? according to the— place to be capping food prices ? according to the reports, the gowonnnoni— ? according to the reports, the government planning to government is planning to ininoonoo— government is planning to introduce prices, price caps on iosio—ooso- introduce prices, price caps on iosioooso— ino| basic food items to ease the onion— basic food items to ease the burden customers are facing inning— burden customers are facing inning ino— burden customers are facing during the cost— burden customers are facing during the cost of living onsis— during the cost of living crisis. but— during the cost of living crisis. but should downing sinooi— crisis. but should downing street really— crisis. but should downing street really be getting inwoiwoo— street really be getting involved ?— street really be getting involved ? then at 450, it's involved? then at 450, it's wonio— involved? then at 450, it's wonio viow. — involved? then at 450, it's world view. the- involved? then at 450, it's world view. the host of the ioiiiios— world view. the host of the politics people _ world view. the host of the politics people podcast, paul onooniogo.— politics people podcast, paul duddridge,_to. duddridge, will be live to oisonss— duddridge, will be live to discuss the— duddridge, will be live to discuss the top stories from ino — discuss the top stories from across the globe, including iowonoo— across the globe, including iowonoo .— across the globe, including rwanda , santos, his highly rwanda, santos, his highly oniioinoioo— rwanda, santos, his highly anticipated campaign launch on iwiiion— anticipated campaign launch on iwiiion onoi— anticipated campaign launch on twitter that fell— anticipated campaign launch on twitter that fell flat on its iooo — twitter that fell flat on its iooo oiion— twitter that fell flat on its face after technical gremlins got face after technical gremlins goi in— face after technical gremlins goi in ino— face after technical gremlins goi in ino wow— face after technical gremlins goi in ino wow .— face after technical gremlins got in the way . then stay tuned got in the way. then stay tuned iooonso— got in the way. then stay tuned iooonso oi— got in the way. then stay tuned because at 5:00— got in the way. then stay tuned because at 5:00 as— got in the way. then stay tuned

because at 5:00 as this week's onisioo— because at 5:00 as this week's onisioo now— because at 5:00 as this week's outside now, my— because at 5:00 as this week's outside now, my special mystery gnosi— outside now, my special mystery gnosi is— outside now, my special mystery gnosi is on— outside now, my special mystery guest is an olympic athlete who is-io— guest is an olympic athlete who is-io oonnoiing— guest is an olympic athlete who is-to competing in- guest is an olympic athlete who is to competing in the is known to competing in the nonioinion— is known to competing in the heptathlon long— is known to competing in the heptathlon long jump and relay. she heptathlon long jump and relay. sno nos— heptathlon long jump and relay. she has represented great iniioin— she has represented great iniioin in— she has represented great britain in the— she has represented great britain in the olympics in ainons— britain in the olympics in ainons ono— britain in the olympics in athens and beijing . and anybody athens and beijing. and anybody gnoss— athens and beijing. and anybody gnoss wno— athens and beijing. and anybody gnoss wno sno— athens and beijing. and anybody guess who she might be? that's ooning— guess who she might be? that's ooning nn— guess who she might be? that's ooning no in— guess who she might be? that's ooning no in on— guess who she might be? that's coming up in an hour, as ever. ioii— coming up in an hour, as ever. ioii no— coming up in an hour, as ever. ioii no wnoi— coming up in an hour, as ever. tell me what you— coming up in an hour, as ever. tell me what you think on owonwining— tell me what you think on everything we're discussing. onoii— everything we're discussing. email gbviews@gbnews.uk . com or email gbviews@gbnews.uk. com or iwooi— email gbviews@gbnews.uk. com or woo-.— email gbviews@gbnews.uk. com or iwooi-. on— email gbviews@gbnews.uk. com or iwooi-. on wows.— email gbviews@gbnews.uk. com or tweet . gb news. right. tweet me at. gb news. right. ioo-s— tweet me at. gb news. right. ioi-s goi— tweet me at. gb news. right. let's get started. _ tweet me at. gb news. right. let's get started. let's welcome ogoin— let's get started. let's welcome ogoin io— let's get started. let's welcome ogoin io nw— let's get started. let's welcome ogoin io nw nonoi— let's get started. let's welcome again to my panel, broadcaster ono— again to my panel, broadcaster and columnist— again to my panel, broadcaster and columnist ,_ again to my panel, broadcaster and columnist, not lizzie cundy. it's and columnist, not lizzie cundy. ii-s onnisiino— and columnist, not lizzie cundy. it's christine hamilton, broadcaster— it's christine hamilton, broadcaster and author. i don't inini— broadcaster and author. i don't inini iizzio— broadcaster and author. i don't think lizzie would— broadcaster and author. i don't think lizzie would like to be ooninsoo— think lizzie would like to be confused with— think lizzie would like to be confused with me. ' h: confused with me. and also journalist and broadcaster danny kelly. look a little smiley. oonnw— kelly. look a little smiley. oonnw iigni— kelly. look a little smiley. danny right. so- look a little smiley. danny right. so what are you sowing— danny right. so what are you sowing ?— danny right. so what are you sowing i in— danny right. so what are you saying ? i'm going to start with saying? i'm going to start with you,— saying? i'm going to start with won. onnisiino— saying? i'm going to start with you, christine .— saying? i'm going to start with you, christine . what do you make you, christine. what do you make of you, christine. what do you make oi inis— you, christine. what do you make oi inis oooni— you, christine. what do you make of this about this— you, christine. what do you make of this about this advert? yeah, the of this about this advert? yeah, ino oiwoni— of this about this advert? yeah, ino oowoni. i— of this about this advert? yeah, the advert. i mean, what do they inini— the advert. i mean, what do they inini-ninn— the advert. i mean, what do they think-mind blowinglyl think it is? so mind blowingly ridiculous as far as i can see. it's not going to make a non-onn— it's not going to make a no-n-onn oi—

it's not going to make a ha'p'orth of difference in it is at ha'p'orth of difference in it is oi ioosi— ha'p'orth of difference in it is oi ioosi inow— ha'p'orth of difference in it is at least they think they're going— at least they think they're doing something . but the first doing something. but the first ining— doing something. but the first ining onoi— doing something. but the first thing that the— doing something. but the first thing that the government's been doing— thing that the government's been ooinglsion— thing that the government's been doing stop immigration, doing to stop immigration, apart inon— from stopping these dependents iioooing— from stopping these dependents flooding-students- from stopping these dependents flooding students is a flooding in of students is a noinoiio— flooding in of students is a pathetic little _ flooding in of students is a pathetic little thing like that. i pathetic little thing like that. i noon— pathetic little thing like that. i ii-s— pathetic little thing like that. i mean, it's ridiculous. the ionw— i mean, it's ridiculous. the tory government, i mean, it's ridiculous. the tory government , frankly, has tory government, frankly, has iioo— tory government, frankly, has iioo-oonninw- tory government, frankly, has lied country repeatedly lied to this country repeatedly for lied to this country repeatedly ion woons— lied to this country repeatedly ion woons ono— lied to this country repeatedly for years and years and years. i ii— for years and years and years. i mean, it started— for years and years and years. i mean, it started with david ooono no— mean, it started with david cameron. he said he was going to get cameron. he said he was going to goi innignoiion— cameron. he said he was going to get immigration down to the tens of i get immigration down to the tens oi—i noon- get immigration down to the tens oi—i wnoii of thousands. well, i mean, what noononoo— of thousands. well, i mean, what noononoolinoii— of thousands. well, i mean, what happened that? the idea that happened to that? the idea that an happened to that? the idea that on oowoni— happened to that? the idea that on oowoni is— happened to that? the idea that an advert is going— happened to that? the idea that an advert is going to counteract innignoiion— an advert is going to counteract innignoiion i— an advert is going to counteract immigration, i mean, it is so mino— immigration, i mean, it is so nnino ioggiing— immigration, i mean, it is so mind boggling- i_ immigration, i mean, it is so mind boggling. i can hardly get mide boggling. i can hardly get my mind boggling. i can hardly get nw wonos— mind boggling. i can hardly get nw wonos oni— mind boggling. i can hardly get my words out about it. well, jenrick— my words out about it. well, ionnioi nos— my words out about it. well, jenrick has called people snnggion— jenrick has called people smugglers the evil people . oh, smugglers the evil people. oh, inow-no— smugglers the evil people. oh, inow-no going— smugglers the evil people. oh, inow-no going io— smugglers the evil people. oh, they're going to be really inignionoo.— they're going to be really frightened, aren't they, by an ad frightened, aren't they, by an oo soonoo— frightened, aren't they, by an ad scared of— frightened, aren't they, by an ad scared of this— frightened, aren't they, by an ad scared of this video. n:ign ad scared of this video. what do you ad scared of this video. what do won—onwon?- you think, danny? an advert? well i think you're right. you know, albania young well i think you're right. youi know,they're)ania-young wig“ ”ig; ”gh you know,they're coming young wig“ ”ig; ”gh you know,they're coming from iung wig“ ”ig; ”gh you know,they're coming from atg wig“ ”ig; ”gh you know,they're coming from a safe, men, they're coming from a safe, nnosnonons— men, they're coming from a safe, nnosnonons-ono- men, they're coming from a safe, prosperous and they're prosperous country, and they're paying— prosperous country, and they're paying pebble— prosperous country, and they're paying people thousands of nonnos— paying people thousands of nonnos-owon- paying people thousands of pounds over here on pounds to get over here on a oingiw— pounds to get over here on a oingnw. goi— pounds to get over here on a dinghy, get picked up halfway by pounds to get over here on a dinlbritsiet picked up halfway by pounds to get over here on a dinlbrits ,t picked up halfway by pounds to get over here on a dinlbrits , and ked up halfway by pounds to get over here on a dinlbrits , and thenip halfway by pounds to get over here on a dinlbrits , and then they'lliay by pounds to get over here on a dinlbrits , and then they'll endny the brits, and then they'll end up the brits, and then they'll end no in— the brits, and then they'll end no in o— the brits, and then they'll end no in o noioi— the brits, and then they'll end up in a hotel at— the brits, and then they'll end up in a hotel at our expense. ann— up in a hotel at our expense. ann onon— up in a hotel at our expense. and then they'll— up in a hotel at our expense. and then they'll just- up in a hotel at our expense. and then they'll just into and then they'll just go into the economy. the black economy. they'll probably all probably be cleaning cars all around kingdom

around the united kingdom at car washes launder money washes where they launder money from is what goes from drugs. this is what goes on, unfortunately, the on, unfortunately, with the albanians . you know, some albanians. you know, some of great there are great people. well, there are some-albanians.- great people. well, there are. some _albanians.-you some good albanians. and, you know.— some good albanians. and, you know-— some good albanians. and, you inow- inoso - some good albanians. and, you know, , these videos know, of course, these videos ono—ini- know, of course, these videos. ono—ini-noonio are for everybody but the people ooning— are for everybody but the people ooning-on— are for everybody but the people ooning-on ino— are for everybody but the people coming on the dinghies coming over on the dinghies ononi— coming over on the dinghies aren't albanians. higyn ”ig; aren't good albanians. they're iiiogois.— aren't good albanians. they'rel iiiogois-_os illegals. they're coming over as economic migrants. saint economic migrants. and saint lineker, saint of lineker, the patron saint of economic migrants, double economic migrants, the double standards of that guy. why is it i watching bev andrew i was watching bev and andrew last and bev this is gb last week and bev this is gb news bev was in boston 75. yes. i voted to leave . so. so if i voted to leave. so. so if multiculturalism is so great, how come 75% of people from boston, where there's a massive concentration of eastern europeans, why did they vote to leave ? is that just a hotbed for leave? is that just a hotbed for racism or do we need to get to the gritty reality that some people and other people like lineker and other people like lineker and other people in left wing media people in the left wing media and pontificate they and they pontificate and they spout they're pious, but spout and they're pious, but they have deal with the they don't have to deal with the consequences of mass immigration. he's nowhere near it. immigration. he's nowhere near ii. no-s— immigration. he's nowhere near ii. no-s goi— immigration. he's nowhere near ii. no-s goi o— immigration. he's nowhere near ii. no-s goi o no— immigration. he's nowhere near it. he's got a nice big- g he's nowhere near it. he's got a nice big house ono— it. he's got a nice big house on nnoioiiw— it. he's got a nice big house and probably got— it. he's got a nice big house and probably got lawns he and probably got lawns and he ooosn-i— and probably got lawns and he ooosn-i nooo— and probably got lawns and he doesn't need to— and probably got lawns and he doesn't need to be near a nignoni— doesn't need to be near a migrant anything doesn't need to be near a. migrant-anything . doesn't need to be near a- migrant-anything. yeah, migrant camp or anything. yeah, nosi— migrant camp or anything. yeah, noso-ino— migrant camp or anything. yeah, most-the government- migrant camp or anything. yeah, most the government ministers migrant camp or anything. yeah, most have? government ministers

migrant camp or anything. yeah, most have? goveanywhereinisters don't have to be anywhere near it, think it, although you would think that and mps now are that more and more mps now are encountering real problems in their constituency. well that's their constituency. well, that's when, their constituency. well, that's wnon-iioni-s- their constituency. well, that'si when,-mark's-is when, of course, mark's camp is going—iooo- going to be in their own face iiio— going to be in their own face iiio wnoi-s— going to be in their own face like what's his— going to be in their own face like what's his name? mean, like what's his name? i mean, pre— like what's his name? i mean, no no— like what's his name? i mean, no no no— like what's his name? i mean, no no no i997.— like what's his name? i mean, pre pre pre 1997, the immigration rate was about what nowo— immigration rate was about what nowo wo— immigration rate was about what nowo wo gow— immigration rate was about what nowo wo goii — immigration rate was about what have we got? 50 000 have we got? 50,000 a year. 50,000. now that just seems like a pimple nowadays . if we only a pimple nowadays. if we only had 50,000, we'd be fine and it's just got completely run away since then. and that's all governments. it's not just the tories . labour just as much to tories. labour just as much to blame. and they don't have any answer it either. let them answer to it either. let them all in. well, the labour party ono-inoi— all in. well, the labour party ono-inoi wow.- all in. well, the labour party are-that they. well- gh well, the labour party are that they. well you are saying that they. well you noono— are saying that they. well you heard-barclay- are saying that they. well you heard barclay saying that heard steve barclay saying that no-s—i-oi he's going to bring it down. i'd iowo—nions- he's going to bring it down. i'd love—plans, but. love to hear their plans, but inow-wo— love to hear their plans, but inow-wo oii— love to hear their plans, but they've all they're going they've all said they're going to they've all said they're going io—owonw- they've all said they're going io—owonw singioi to bring it down every single gowonnnnoni— government, every single prime iiinision— government, every single prime iiinision owoiw— government, every single prime minister every single immigration have all immigration minister have all soii— immigration minister have all sno-going- immigration minister have all soii-going io- immigration minister have all said, going to get it said, oh, we're going to get it down— said, oh, we're going to get it oown—iil down, we're going to get it down— down, we're going to get it gown-oi- down, we're going to get it oown-oi-iil down, we're going to get it. down,-of-it just down, instead of which it just goos—nising. - down, instead of which it just goes—rising. thel goes on and on rising. the aiionion— goes on and on rising. the albanian young men will be laughing at of course, laughing at that. of course, because part of the part of the way get over is way they they get over here is they they look at tiktok videos where london where people in london are showing guns

showing off with money and guns and drugs. and yes, you're right, there's loads great right, there's loads of great help. i'm help. of course there are. i'm not sweeping such a broad brush help. of course there are. i'm nbutweeping such a broad brush help. of course there are. i'm nbutweepiiare uch a broad brush help. of course there are. i'm nbutweepiiare uch a lmen brush help. of course there are. i'm nbutweepiiare uch a lmen who h , but these are young men who are getting dinghy are getting on a dinghy and illegally entering the united kingdom. they're coming for it as they are. and as well. of course they are. and who's for that? so you've who's paying for that? so you've got to ask, what's the bigger picture? got to ask, what's the bigger picture thousands got to ask, what's the bigger picturethousands pounds, paying thousands of pounds, maybe borrowing thousands paying thousands of pounds, mopounds? borrowing thousands paying thousands of pounds, mopounds? it'srrowing thousands paying thousands of pounds, mopounds? it's because housands paying thousands of pounds, mopounds? it's because they'rejs of pounds? it's because they're going to get involved with something i would something. i would suggest, generally , illegal in generally speaking, illegal in the do you know what, the uk. well, do you know what, though? there might be some who oono—iogoi- though? there might be some who oono—iogoi inii come and do something legal, but the come and do something legal, but ino—inol the fact that they've got on the oingnw—niooo- the fact that they've got on the oingnw—niooo is- the fact that they've got on the dinghy place is the dinghy in the first place is the bit dinghy in the first place is the iii onoi— dinghy in the first place is the iii no gois— dinghy in the first place is the bit that gets my— dinghy in the first place is the bit that gets my goat. yeah. and oiso.— bit that gets my goat. yeah. and oiso. inono-s— bit that gets my goat. yeah. and also, there's nothing wrong with aiionio— also, there's nothing wrong with albania._there'sj albania. there's no war. there's no-no nooi-wnwi no. there's no real reason why inow— no. there's no real reason why. inow—ononi they should be coming here apart inon— they should be coming here apart from economic— they should be coming here apart from economic reasons. and that is—wnol is clear. and that's kind of who inoso—oinoo- is clear. and that's kind of who these—aimed at.- is clear. and that's kind of who these—aimed at. sol these videos are aimed at. so ooonio— these videos are aimed at. so people-countries- these videos are aimed at. so people countries not just people in countries not just aiionio— people in countries not just. albania,_other albania, they're going to other oonniios— albania, they're going to other oonninios—nni- albania, they're going to other countries put these countries as well to put these wiioos— countries as well to put these wiooos. ini— countries as well to put these wiooos. nni nw— countries as well to put these videos. but my thinking is that it videos. but my thinking is that ii-noios— videos. but my thinking is that ii-noios ns— videos. but my thinking is that it-makes us look- videos. but my thinking is that it makes us look really it just makes us look really singioi— it just makes us look really singioi-wo— it just makes us look really stupid. we believe that these stupid. if we believe that these wiooos— stupid. if we believe that these wiooos ono— stupid. if we believe that these videos are going— stupid. if we believe that these videos are going to deter, well, owi— videos are going to deter, well, owii ooonio— videos are going to deter, well, evil people smugglers, it's a sledgehammer_ evil people smugglers, it's a sledgehammer to miss a nut, isn-i— sledgehammer to miss a nut, isn-i iii— sledgehammer to miss a nut, isn-i iii — sledgehammer to miss a nut, isn-i ii i— sledgehammer to miss a nut, isn't it? i mean,— sledgehammer to miss a nut, isn't it? i mean, it- sledgehammer to miss a nut, isn't it? h . ”ign?an sledgehammer to miss a nut, isn't it? . ”ign?an isn't it? i mean, it really is. apparently in albania and possibly in other countries,

there are tiktok videos , fake there are tiktok videos, fake tiktok videos, circular , in tiktok videos, circular, in which these young people see which these young people see which offer them the streets of london paved with gold for them. they arrive here, they'll be able business. able to set up a business. they'll millionaires in a they'll be millionaires in a week, several them , week, and several of them, probably now, have probably hundreds by now, have been duped, thinking been completely duped, thinking that to be better that it's going to be better than is away from than it is away from broadcasting journalism. than it is away from broe both :ing journalism. than it is away from broeboth know journalism. than it is away from broeboth know i'm)urnalism. than it is away from broeboth know i'm)u carism. than it is away from broe both know i'm)u car dealer. you both know i'm a car dealer. my you both know i'm a car dealer. iiw noioiiwos— you both know i'm a car dealer. my relatives albanians and my relatives are albanians and inow-no—inow-nol they're here legally. they're iniiiioni— they're here legally. they're brilliant lads.— they're here legally. they're brilliant lads. they're hardworking they're hardworking kids. but they're nono— hardworking kids. but they're nono iogoiiw— hardworking kids. but they're here legally. they've got right to here legally. they've got right io siow. — here legally. they've got right io siow. inow-wo— here legally. they've got right to stay. they've got visas. inow-wo— to stay. they've got visas. they've done— to stay. they've got visas. they've done it- to stay. they've got visas. they've done it properly. you oon—ii- they've done it properly. youj oon—ii won they've done it properly. you. oon—ii won oo can do things properly if you do inings—ono- can do things properly if you do inings—ono won- can do things properly if you do things and you can things legitimate and you can nnowioo— things legitimate and you can providelservice_ things legitimate and you can provide service for people in provide a service for people in ino— provide a service for people in ino gn— provide a service for people in ino ii. inow-ii— provide a service for people in the uk, they'll let— provide a service for people in the uk, they'll let you well the uk, they'll let you in. well onoi— the uk, they'll let you in. well onoo—o- the uk, they'll let you in. well inoi—o wisol the uk, they'll let you in. well inoi—o .l the uk, they'll let you in. welli that—a visa , is that old thing called a visa, is inono— that old thing called a visa, is inono nooiiw— that old thing called a visa, is there really-a— that old thing called a visa, is there really a thing? . g there really such a thing? and inow— there really such a thing? and iiow iiow— there really such a thing? and they flew over— there really such a thing? ' h: they didn't they flew over here. they didn't get they flew over here. they didn't goi in— they flew over here. they didn't goi in o— they flew over here. they didn't goi in o oingnw.— they flew over here. they didn't goi in o oingnw. — they flew over here. they didn't get in a dinghy. it— they flew over here. they didn't get in a dinghy. it just- they flew over here. they didn't get in a dinghy. it just seems that taking that people are taking advantage of and i of the united kingdom and i think things video think things like this video just how touch our just show how out of touch our politicians if they believe politicians are. if they believe that going some that this is going to be some sort deterrent even sort of deterrent and that even if saw that video from, if somebody saw that video from, say, albania or somewhere else like that actually even like that would actually even believe the believe it. so, you know, the politicians need to think a little bit and put

little bit harder and put themselves the themselves in the mind of the kind who would be kind of people who would be doing put their doing this and also put their head mind of the british head in the mind of the british pubuc head in the mind of the british public because our public as well, because it's our money spending. idon't money they're spending. i don't it may just be me, but- money they're spending. i don't it may just be me, but i- : hg i don't it may just be me, but i was unaware relatively unaware until relatively noooniiw— unaware until relatively. recently—were recently that students were allowed— recently that students were allowed i bring - allowed to bring so many dependents— allowed to bring so many dependents .— allowed to bring so many dependents . absolutely dependents. i had absolutely no idea— dependents. i had absolutely no idea that— dependents. i had absolutely no idea that somebody who comes over-frankly— idea that somebody who comes over-frankly .— idea that somebody who comes over-frankly , we- idea that somebody who comes over frankly , we should over here, frankly, we should stop — over here, frankly, we should stop im— over here, frankly, we should stop ltot ot— over here, frankly, we should stop l lot of these - over here, frankly, we should stop lot of these students. stop a lot of these students. apt— stop a lot of these students. and—universitiesl stop a lot of these students.- and _ universities want and i know the universities want them — and i know the universities want them _otherwise - them because otherwise they woutt—outi would collapse. some of our universities— would collapse. some of our universities could do universities should could do wttt—somo- universities should could do with—somelour universities should could doi with—somelour , with collapsing some of our, wtot— with collapsing some of our, what should— with collapsing some of our, what should we— with collapsing some of our, what should we less what should we say, less academically— what should we say, less academically brilliant universities. - academically brilliant universities. but people coming in universities. but people coming to on— universities. but people coming to on that— universities. but people coming in on that sort— universities. but people coming in on that sort of— universities. but people coming in on that sort of visa, they tast— in on that sort of visa, they are last stopping some of them. but are last stopping some of them. out .— are last stopping some of them. out . moon— are last stopping some of them. but i mean, it's— are last stopping some of them. but i mean, it's unbelievable . but i mean, it's unbelievable. tupttots— but i mean, it's unbelievable. tupttots ot— but i mean, it's unbelievable. hundreds of thousands of them oomtpo— hundreds of thousands of them coming-because- hundreds of thousands of them coming because one of coming in just because one of ttott— coming in just because one of toot-ts— coming in just because one of ttott-ts doing- coming in just because one of their-is doing a- coming in just because one of their is doing a degree , their number is doing a degree, ttoy— their number is doing a degree, they-modify— their number is doing a degree, they-modify that. - their number is doing a degree, they modify that. " their number is doing a degree, they 3" . modify that. " their number is doing a degree, they 3" c “y that. " their number is doing a degree, they 3" c c: t. i their number is doing a degree, they " c that doesn't seem very sensible and easily be and it can easily be manipulated. so that doesn't make . that's something make sense. that's something they do. quick win. they could do. it's a quick win. they done that ages, they could have done that ages, ages they ages ago. i don't know why they haven't. in haven't. just bringing in otttttop— haven't. just bringing in children—andl haven't. just bringing in. children—and the haven't. just bringing in- children_and the cat children and granny and the cat and children and granny and the cat opt—you- children and granny and the cat opt—you sop-tl and god knows what you can't tttpg—tto— and god knows what you can't bring—the others.l and god knows what you can't brirright the others. and god knows what you can't brirright . the others. and god knows what you can't brirright . okay. the others. and god knows what you can't brirright . okay. the can't's. and god knows what you can't brirright . okay. the can't bring all right. okay. you can't bring tots.— all right. okay. you can't bring tots-stopw— all right. okay. you can't bring cats.-should have- all right. okay. you can't bring cats. should have a passport cats. you should have a passport wttt— cats. you should have a passport wttt tho— cats. you should have a passport with the accent. _ cats. you should have a passport with the accent. we— cats. you should have a passport with the accent. �*ftt�*ti tit?“ . ' ti

with the accent. we can't arnie . yeah, so.7 so, with the accent. we can't arnie . yeah, so? so, yeah. i mean , . yeah, so? so, yeah. i mean, the government once again, i think they're just reminding us that they are trying to do something. but the thing is, it's laughable. no one is going to going to say, hang to no one is going to say, hang on, i saw advert on on, i just saw an advert on tiktok. not on that tiktok. i'm not getting on that dinghy. crazy. it's dinghy. yeah it's crazy. it's not to happen, not going to happen, is it? wett— not going to happen, is it? wot-they- not going to happen, is it? well, they realise if well, because they realise if they— they don't do something about they don't do something abouti tho—they they don't do something abouti tto pot—they they don't do something about the not going they they don't do something about the not going to they they don't do something about the not going to win they they don't do something about the not going to win the they are not going to win the otoottop. — are not going to win the election. well,- are not going to win the election. �*ftt�*tiii ”ti election. well, they're not going win anyway. no, robert going to win anyway. no, robert jenrick, going to win anyway. no, robert topptop-tttpt— going to win anyway. no, robert jenrick,-think again.- jenrick, please think again. tttpt— think again. evil people smupptots. — think again. evil people smugglers. you think smugglers. come on. do you think if smugglers. come on. do you think tt-wtot— smugglers. come on. do you think tt-wtot-tttpt— smugglers. come on. do you think if-what-think of- if that's what you think of them,— if that's what you think ofi them, _actually them, that they're actually going— them, that they're actually. gotpo—tto going to be bothered with the vttoot— going to be bothered with the video? seriously? no you need to cut video? seriously? no you need to out tt— video? seriously? no you need to out tt ot— video? seriously? no you need to cut it at source— video? seriously? no you need to cut it at source-go- video? seriously? no you need to cut it at source go straight cut it at source and go straight to tho— cut it at source and go straight to the source— cut it at source and go straight to the source and— cut it at source and go straight to the source and stop that there.— to the source and stop that tots—tot- to the source and stop that- there._lot.people there. and also, a lot of people are—boatsl are saying just turn the boats toot— are saying just turn the boats toot opt— are saying just turn the boats back and people— are saying just turn the boats back and people won't be interested— back and people won't be interested know that's interested if they know that's ttot-s—putl interested if they know that's- that's _ but what interested if they know that's- that'slthink?-but what interested if they know that's that's think? get but what interested if they know that's that's think? get in but what interested if they know that's that's think? get in touch, what interested if they know that's that's think? get in touch, gb at do you think? get in touch, gb vtows— do you think? get in touch, gb viewslgb_ do you think? get in touch, gb views-gb news— do you think? get in touch, gb views gb news .com .you're views at gb news .com. you're wttt— views at gb news .com. you're wttt mo.— views at gb news .com. you're wttt t-m— views at gb news .com. you're with me. i'm nana— views at gb news .com. you're with me. i'm nana akua. this is gb with me. i'm nana akua. this is op—op- with me. i'm nana akua. this is op—op tv- with me. i'm nana akua. this is. gb _on tv online gb news. we're live on tv online opt— gb news. we're live on tv online opt op— gb news. we're live on tv online opt op ttottot— gb news. we're live on tv online and on digital radio. at five, i'll and on digital radio. at five, m to— and on digital radio. at five, i'll be joined— and on digital radio. at five, i'll be joined by— and on digital radio. at five, i'll be joined by my special mystery— i'll be joined by my special mystery guest— i'll be joined by my special mystery guest in outside . let me mystery guest in outside. let me give— mystery guest in outside. let me gtvo you— mystery guest in outside. let me gtyo you some— mystery guest in outside. let me give you some clues. she's a worm— give you some clues. she's a wottt otoss— give you some clues. she's a world class former heptathlete otto— world class former heptathlete who mtssot— world class former heptathlete who missed out— world class former heptathlete who missed out on an olympic

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. ctoppot— people's channel. britain's news . ctouuot ts— people's channel. britain's news . channel is coming up to 23 mtuutos— . channel is coming up to 23 minutes after— . channel is coming up to 23 minutes after 4:00. " c15 minutes after 4:00. this is gb nous. — minutes after 4:00. this is gb news. we are the people's channel. don't forget , you can channel. don't forget, you can download the gb news app for free. i'm nana akua. now before the break i was discussing the government launching an ad campaign in albanian to deter cross—channel migrants and smugglers, as if. cross—channel migrants and smugglers, as if . right, let's smugglers, as if. right, let's see what you've been saying, claire says the government have timed deliberately as timed this deliberately as already the of albanians already the number of albanians coming across boats coming across in boats has reduced hugely , and they're reduced hugely, and they're intending take the credit for intending to take the credit for that ad campaign in that with this ad campaign in possibly andy says, the government's advertising to stop albanians coming here is laughable . it isn't. it's laughable. it isn't. it's ridiculous. i'd say, john says the only party who will stop this is reform . the rest will this is reform. the rest will just let the invasion continue. and then anne says , if they send and then anne says, if they send sent migrants to the cotswolds , sent migrants to the cotswolds, the problem would be solved quickly . if certain the problem would be solved quickly. if certain immigrants are the cotswolds. it's lovely there. what are you talking about? oh that is the point. i see. okay. yeah, that's what

they said it to me. that's the point. i got it right. it's time now great british now for the great british debate. asking, now for the great british deitate. asking, now for the great british deitate. government's asking, now for the great british deitate. government's place 1, now for the great british deitate. government's place to is it the government's place to be or capping even be scrapping or capping even food prices families the food prices as families feel the pinch from soaring costs of the weekly shop ? rishi sunak team is weekly shop? rishi sunak team is drawing to impose price drawing up plans to impose price caps food items. caps on basic food items. downing street have stressed that it would a voluntary that it would be a voluntary arrangement to me i'm arrangement which to me i'm like, come on, what's the point? if you're it voluntary, if you're making it voluntary, then will do it. and if then nobody will do it. and if supermarkets they'll be supermarkets opt in, they'll be expected cost expected to keep the cost of everyday like bread everyday essentials like bread and food prices have and milk, low food prices have risen by 19.1% over the past yean risen by 19.1% over the past year, putting household budgets under pressure . shops in france under pressure. shops in france have a similar agreement, but the plans have already raised alarm , with some saying that the alarm, with some saying that the scheme anti—market it could scheme is anti—market it could harm retailers. so the harm smaller retailers. so the great british debate this hour , great british debate this hour, i'm asking, is it the government's place to be capping food prices ? well, i'm joined by food prices? well, i'm joined by amy nicholl, author and broadcaster former broadcaster ben habib, former brexit party mep peter edwards , brexit party mep peter edwards, former editor of the labourlist, and claire pearsall, former home office adviser. so i'm

office special adviser. so i'm going to start with you, claire pearsall . is it the government's pearsall. is it the government's place to be doing this ? no, it place to be doing this? no, it absolutely isn't. i think this sttttos— absolutely isn't. i think this stifles competition. - absolutely isn't. i think this stifles competition. it- cticyt c i think this stifles competition. it is not voy— stifles competition. it is not very conservative. i'm extremely sutpttsot— very conservative. i'm extremely sutpttsot ttot— very conservative. i'm extremely surprised that the— very conservative. i'm extremely surprised that the government has surprised that the government tos put— surprised that the government has put ttts— surprised that the government has put this forward. and i tttut— has put this forward. and i tttut ttot— has put this forward. and i think that having a voluntary ouopomopgt— think that having a voluntary arrangement is— think that having a voluntary arrangement is just going to tott— arrangement is just going to fail immediately. if you don't toys— fail immediately. if you don't have to— fail immediately. if you don't have to buy— fail immediately. if you don't have to buy into— fail immediately. if you don't have to buy into something, fail immediately. if you don't have to buy into something , then have to buy into something, then why— have to buy into something, then why uoutt— have to buy into something, then why uoutt you?— have to buy into something, then why would you? supermarkets are totottvoty— why would you? supermarkets are relatively competitive at the moment— relatively competitive at the moment .— relatively competitive at the moment . and— relatively competitive at the moment . and why would one moment. and why would one supermarket— moment. and why would one supermarket then put themselves at o— supermarket then put themselves at a disadvantage— supermarket then put themselves at a disadvantage over all the test— at a disadvantage over all the test e — at a disadvantage over all the test e wett— at a disadvantage over all the rest ? well, it— at a disadvantage over all the rest ? well, it could- at a disadvantage over all the rest ? �*ftt�*ticc c i: at a disadvantage over all the rest? �*ftt�*ticc c i: ”g: rest? well, it could be argued that if you put your prices down, then you're at an ad vantage. actually. is that not is that not good what do you is that not a good what do you think? well, i don't think so , think? well, i don't think so, because if you start to run a shortage on those items, manufacturers producers manufacturers and producers aren't going to put those those products there. they're products out there. they're going. concentrate - products out there. they're going .concentrate on - :i they're going concentrate on more going to concentrate on more tuetottve— going to concentrate on more lucrative _then - going to concentrate on more lucrative then you lucrative lines. so then you ete— lucrative lines. so then you ete o— lucrative lines. so then you create a shortage. so i think youe— create a shortage. so i think you're actually— create a shortage. so i think you're actually doing whole you're actually doing the whole semtee— you're actually doing the whole semteeltoot— you're actually doing the whole service food supply service of food supply a eomptete— service of food supply a complete disservice . and i think complete disservice. and i think it's complete disservice. and i think tt-s tte— complete disservice. and i think tt-s tte mome— complete disservice. and i think it's the wrong way—

complete disservice. and i think it's the wrong way forward . i it's the wrong way forward. i tom-t— it's the wrong way forward. i tom-t tmtmt— it's the wrong way forward. i don't think you— it's the wrong way forward. i don't think you need to look at mot.— don't think you need to look at tmot-pemops— don't think you need to look at that.-perhaps-to- don't think you need to look at that. perhaps to look that. you perhaps need to look at that. you perhaps need to look ot-tmose— that. you perhaps need to look at-those-thatl at tariffs on those items that you—sout- at tariffs on those items thati you—eom-t grow at tariffs on those items that- you—eom-t grow tm you import that we can't grow in mm— you import that we can't grow in ttts-. — you import that we can't grow in ttts-. tt— you import that we can't grow in ttts-. tt mtgtt- you import that we can't grow in this-. it might-itl this country. it might make it quite unfair for the corner shops like who shops and people like that who won't able to match it, won't be able to match it, either me or put them out of business. well, business. peter edwards well, i think sign think it's a sign of catastrophic of this catastrophic failure of this government to tackle inflation and failure of and catastrophic failure of several tory governments to ensure that we grow enough of our cheap food. and to be our own cheap food. and to be frank, if our own cheap food. and to be momt, tt tte— our own cheap food. and to be frank, if the labour— ” i : and to be frank, if the labour party has suppestet— frank, if the labour party has suppestet-you- frank, if the labour party has suggested you know, some suggested this, you know, some puts— suggested this, you know, some pottsltme— suggested this, you know, some parts-the media— suggested this, you know, some parts the media would say parts of the media would say it's parts of the media would say tt-s-comym— parts of the media would say tt-s-comym-usl it's jeremy corbyn taking us toot— it's jeremy corbyn taking us back-soviet— it's jeremy corbyn taking us back soviet russia. i think back to soviet russia. i think the— back to soviet russia. i think the pomet— back to soviet russia. i think the panel probably for different reasons-te— the panel probably for different reasons-be unite- the panel probably for different reasons be unite in saying reasons will be unite in saying it's reasons will be unite in saying tt-s o— reasons will be unite in saying tt-s u very— reasons will be unite in saying tt-s o very poor— reasons will be unite in saying it's a very poor idea and a sign of it's a very poor idea and a sign ot mou— it's a very poor idea and a sign ot mow must— it's a very poor idea and a sign of how much things have gone momt— of how much things have gone momt m— of how much things have gone utomp m the— of how much things have gone wrong in the last— of how much things have gone wrong in the last 15 years. ' wrong in the last 15 years. amy ttoote— wrong in the last 15 years. amy tteote wett— wrong in the last 15 years. amy nicole well, yeah,— wrong in the last 15 years. amy nicole well, yeah, i— wrong in the last 15 years. amy nicole well, yeah, i think this is it's a sad indictment that it is it's a sad indictment that it is necessary for the government to discuss things like this . to discuss things like this. but i think the reason that they-ve— but i think the reason that tmey-ye sett— but i think the reason that they've said voluntary is so thet— they've said voluntary is so that—actually- they've said voluntary is so. that—actually have they've said voluntary is so- that_actually have to that they don't actually have to do that they don't actually have to toleut— that they don't actually have to tolput tt— that they don't actually have to do.but it sounds— that they don't actually have to do but it sounds good do it. but it sounds good because— do it. but it sounds good because-is- do it. but it sounds good because-is so- because food is so astronomically at the astronomically expensive at the moment — astronomically expensive at the moment were— astronomically expensive at the moment. we're not talking about tuutes— moment. we're not talking about luxuries. we're— moment. we're not talking about luxuries. we're talking about

pesto,— luxuries. we're talking about pesto, mttp— luxuries. we're talking about pasta, milk, bread , said at a pasta, milk, bread, said at a ttme— pasta, milk, bread, said at a ttme mmem— pasta, milk, bread, said at a time when the— pasta, milk, bread, said at a time when the supermarkets are mottmg— time when the supermarkets are mottmg resort— time when the supermarkets are making record profits, i think it making record profits, i think tt wos— making record profits, i think tt ome— making record profits, i think it was one of— making record profits, i think it was one of the— making record profits, i think it was one of the major supermarkets - it was one of the major supermarkets made 3 billion in profits.— supermarkets made 3 billion in profits tms— supermarkets made 3 billion in profits. this is— supermarkets made 3 billion in profits. this is blatant profiteering, - profits. this is blatant profiteering, so i think it's an meeessoty mt— profiteering, so i think it's an necessary and i— profiteering, so i think it's an necessary and i would actually go necessary and i would actually 90 a— necessary and i would actually go o step— necessary and i would actually go a step further.— necessary and i would actually go a step further. and if the government— go a step further. and if the government want to help everyone, which they should, it's everyone, which they should, tt-s ttett— everyone, which they should, it's their duty— everyone, which they should, it's their duty to _ everyone, which they should, it's their duty to protect us, them— it's their duty to protect us, then t— it's their duty to protect us, then i would— it's their duty to protect us, then i would also subsidise test— then i would also subsidise ttest tutt— then i would also subsidise fresh fruit and— then i would also subsidise fresh fruit and i— then i would also subsidise fresh fruit and i would consider giving— fresh fruit and i would consider giving septum— fresh fruit and i would consider giving certain items the most stopttttet— giving certain items the most shoplifted-last- giving certain items the most shoplifted last month was shoplifted item last month was potty— shoplifted item last month was popy totmuto— shoplifted item last month was popy totmuto .— shoplifted item last month was baby formula , and i would give baby formula, and i would give that— baby formula, and i would give that away— baby formula, and i would give that away to— baby formula, and i would give that away for free— baby formula, and i would give that away for free to low income tomtttes— that away for free to low income tomtttes to— that away for free to low income families to help— that away for free to low income families to help at— that away for free to low income families to help at this very ttttteutt— families to help at this very difficult and— families to help at this very difficult and unusually difficult— difficult and unusually difficult time. who's going to pay— difficult time. who's going to pay to— difficult time. who's going to pay top mot— difficult time. who's going to pay top that e— difficult time. who's going to pay for that ? i'll— difficult time. who's going to pay for that ? i'll pay for it. pay for that? i'll pay for it. mot-s— pay for that? i'll pay for it. mot-s ttme— pay for that? i'll pay for it. that's fine . _ pay for that? i'll pay for it. that's fine . if— pay for that? i'll pay for it. that's fine . �*" t:tit that's fine. if you do, i, i completely agree with claire and peter. i think they said it extremely well. this is very unconservative kyiv policy. it doesn't work. it's interfering in free markets . the reason in free markets. the reason we've got the problems we've got , frankly, is that we've had far too much government interference in private sector already. in the private sector already. and biggest example, of and the biggest example, of course, of that was lockdowns .

course, of that was lockdowns. and this is direct result of and this is a direct result of lockdowns. it's broken supply chains hike in energy prices as we unlock the economy . arnie we unlock the economy. arnie broken labour markets . and what broken labour markets. and what the government needs to focus on is actually doing less government reducing the burdens on business, reducing the taxes on business, reducing the taxes on business, reducing the taxes on business and then getting out of the way. so the free markets can sort themselves out . i would can sort themselves out. i would just that even though just add that even though supermarkets have what supermarkets may have made what looks startlingly large looks like a startlingly large figure the that amy just figure in the that amy just mentioned of £3 billion, actually, that's a razor thin margin. when you look at the cost and the turnover required in order to get that profit and if you start interfering in the ecosystem of how private companies charge out for their goods, you're going to have all sorts of unintended consequences , one of which could be the bankruptcy of these companies. so do you think that that's a teosomotte— so do you think that that's a reasonable to— so do you think that that's a reasonable to suggest that oetuotty— reasonable to suggest that oetuotty we— reasonable to suggest that actually we could end up pomtpupttmo— bankrupting, bankrupting eomomptes— companies and perhaps the poyemmemt— companies and perhaps the. government—far government haven't looked far meet— government haven't looked far aheadibecause_ government haven't looked far ahead because you ahead? because if you look turmer— ahead? because if you look tutttet-you- ahead? because if you look. further-you.that, further ahead, if you do that, you—

further ahead, if you do that, you mtptt— further ahead, if you do that, you meet eut— further ahead, if you do that, you might end up disturbing the eometoet—tm- you might end up disturbing the corner other things corner shops and other things thet— corner shops and other things that peopte— corner shops and other things that people will— corner shops and other things that people will turn away from. those— that people will turn away from. those those— that people will turn away from. those those those— that people will turn away from. those those those businesses. teem — those those those businesses. teem vett— those those those businesses. yeah. yeah absolutely.- those those those businesses. yeah. yeah absolutely. you- those those those businesses. yeah. yeah absolutely. you start interfering in in those private businesses and this is what happens. but also just to add to ben's point , the supermarkets ben's point, the supermarkets look like they're making enormous profits. but if you're going to take something as basic as a pint of milk , the amount as a pint of milk, the amount that a dairy farmer gets for a pint of milk is so minimal, but their costs have also increased . so if you start messing around , capping prices, telling supermarket bits, you cannot charge more than whatever the price is, you decide they're going to go back to those dairy farmers and say, do you know what? we're not going to pay you the £0.45 for a pint that we currently give you. and those dairy farmers are going to go out of business. they will not survive. it comes back to peter's really, that peter's point, really, that you're if you have you're saying that if you have to policies this, it's to make policies like this, it's a clare makes a disaster. peter clare makes a 9°°d_ a disaster. peter clare makes a good potmt— a disaster. peter clare makes a good potmt, tut— a disaster. peter clare makes a good point, but what- t: peter clare makes a good point, but what would you suggeste— good point, but what would you suggest?_betterl suggest? it would be a better way— suggest? it would be a better uoylteottmg— suggest? it would be a better way dealing this? way of dealing with this? i met— way of dealing with this? i think-strong-

way of dealing with this? i think strong regulators think you need strong regulators and intellectually, and it's intellectually, you know, something you could know, it's something you could probably spend an hour discussing because i don't want a completely free market as perhaps ben might. so we differ on that , even though on that, even though we agree that ended a mess that we've ended up in a mess today. for example, there is today. but for example, there is already intervention today. but for example, there is alivarious intervention today. but for example, there is alivarious markets. intervention today. but for example, there is alivarious markets. so tervention today. but for example, there is alivarious markets. so invention today. but for example, there is alivarious markets. so in the :ion in various markets. so in the energy market, there's kind of a cap in so many others, rpi plus x rail fares, a cap on how much you can increase a train ticket by. so there's no unfair and totally free market. it doesn't exist. but i think particularly in the ed miliband era, the question for the labour party is kind of how far should the government go to intervene to ensure this trade off between profit , which is ensure this trade off between profit, which is fair thing profit, which is a fair thing and reasonable and affordability. and one of the panellists made other point panellists made the other point earlier food being earlier about baby food being the most shoplifted item. that's horrifying because that's not acquisitive. that's people acting of hardship . well, acting out of hardship. well, just to come back to- i g : well, just to come back to one of your potmts— just to come back to one of your potmts, though,— just to come back to one of your points, though, where you said tmot— points, though, where you said mot-otter— points, though, where you said that-other things- points, though, where you said that other things of that there are other things of oops— that there are other things ofi oops—mottets caps and usually it's markets uttere— where there's pretty difficult to-competition. -

where there's pretty difficult to competition. so an to have competition. so an enemy— to have competition. so an energy market— to have competition. so an energy market there's no energy market where there's no eompettttom— energy market where there's no comcan't really— energy market where there's no comcan't really can't choose you can't really i can't choose uto— you can't really i can't choose who-utter,- you can't really i can't choose who _water,lhave. who gives me water, i have to get— who gives me water, i have to get-trom— who gives me water, i have to get-trom-tt-sl who gives me water, i have to. get-from _it's not get water from them. so it's not i get water from them. so it's not t-tttmt— get water from them. so it's not t-tmmt t— get water from them. so it's not i-think i don't— get water from them. so it's not i think i don't think that i don't think i don't think that they—very- they are energy is very competitive— they are energy is very competitive ,- they are energy is very competitive , but rail fares are competitive, but rail fares are .-eut— competitive, but rail fares are .-put you— competitive, but rail fares are .-put you com-t- competitive, but rail fares are . but you can't really . no, no. but you can't really ttte—you- . no, no. but you can't really. ttte—you-te like rail fares are you might be otte— like rail fares are you might be tote—provttetl like rail fares are you might be tote—provttet i able to change your provider, tut— able to change your provider, but—whether. able to change your provider,i but _whether the but not the actual whether the enemy— but not the actual whether the energy—initially. but not the actual whether the energy—initially ,i but not the actual whether the . energy—initially , you energy comes from initially, you sum-t — energy comes from initially, you sum-t _tt— energy comes from initially, you can't. _if-profit- can't. surely if the profit margins as the margins are as small as the other panellists are suggesting, then as competitive as then it's not as competitive as perhaps seems. and surely perhaps it seems. and surely nobody is comfortable with the fact that people cannot afford to feed themselves and that food banks are just soaring. more food banks than mcdonald's in one of the richest countries in the world. i think the government intervention surely is necessary when bills are is necessary when food bills are set to eclipse energy bills as the biggest don't facing the biggest, don't they facing facing people ? well, they the biggest, don't they facing facingtax people ? well, they the biggest, don't they facing facingtax us people ? well, they the biggest, don't they facing facingtax us less,ple ? well, they the biggest, don't they facing facingtax us less, don't well, they the biggest, don't they facing facingtax us less, don't you l, they could tax us less, don't you tumo— could tax us less, don't you think,_would. could tax us less, don't you. think,_would have could tax us less, don't you- think,_would have more think, amy? they would have more money? — think, amy? they would have more money? _ot— think, amy? they would have more money? _of peopte- think, amy? they would have more momepty—ot peopte- think, amy? they would have more mone i fix welluuiil don't pay income tax. well, yeah, but if the— don't pay income tax. well, yeah, but if the more- ct?" c i fix well, yeah, but if the more money tttpptmg— flipping around, though, don't you tumo— flipping around, though, don't you think, amy? sti”ti you think, amy? i think there are of making tax the are other ways of making tax the problem we've problem here is we've had far too government too much government intervention. i completely agree tutt— intervention. i completely agree uttt-tmete— intervention. i completely agree uttm-ttete ts- with peter that there is government _ with peter that there is government intervention in everytmmg— government intervention in

everything-it's- government intervention in everything it's not you everything we do. it's not you mow,— everything we do. it's not you mow, tt-s— everything we do. it's not you mow, tt-s mot— everything we do. it's not you know, it's not a— everything we do. it's not you know, it's not a binary decision whether— know, it's not a binary decision whether you— know, it's not a binary decision whether you have— know, it's not a binary decision whether you have government tmtememttom— whether you have government intervention or— whether you have government intervention or not. it's the extent— intervention or not. it's the extent to— intervention or not. it's the extent to governments extent to which governments tmtememe. — extent to which governments intervene. regulation, extent to which governments intervene. is regulation, extent to which governments intervene. is an regulation, extent to which governments intervene. is an intervention in every law is an intervention in pttvote— every law is an intervention in our private lives.— every law is an intervention in our private lives. but what mot— our private lives. but what we've had over— our private lives. but what we've had over the last 25 years mt— we've had over the last 25 years amt-tits— we've had over the last 25 years and this conservative and under this conservative eovemmemt— and under this conservative government as— and under this conservative government as well, is far too must— government as well, is far too must ot— government as well, is far too must otltmt— government as well, is far too much of and we've got to much of it. and we've got to putt— much of it. and we've got to pot the— much of it. and we've got to pair the state _ much of it. and we've got to pair the state back and that government— pair the state back and that government needs to understand that— government needs to understand that the— government needs to understand that the my— government needs to understand that the only-their- government needs to understand that the only their tax that the only way their tax revenue _to go - that the only way their tax revenue to go up that the only way their tax revenue _to go up if that the only way their tax reveprivate-to go up if that the only way their tax reveprivate sectorto go up if that the only way their tax reveprivate sector succeeds if that the only way their tax reveprivate sector succeeds and the private sector succeeds and if the private sector succeeds and tt tte— the private sector succeeds and tt tte pttvote— the private sector succeeds and if the private sector succeeds , if the private sector succeeds, them— if the private sector succeeds, them that— if the private sector succeeds, then that would— if the private sector succeeds, then that would be great, uouttm-t— then that would be great, wouldn't it? _ then that would be great, wouldn't it? �*" sti”ti wouldn't it? but if there's no could they're all could be taxed, but they're all going food banks. no, they're going to food banks. no, they're not all going to food banks. no, they're mot ott 90mg— going to food banks. no, they're mot ott gotmg to— going to food banks. no, they're not all going to go— git t; : no, they're not all going to go binary , eat not all going to go binary, eat toot— not all going to go binary, eat toot-peopte- not all going to go binary, eat food-people have- not all going to go binary, eat food people have to use food or don't people have to use supetmottetse— food or don't people have to use supermarkets? well, listen , supermarkets? well, listen, wett— supermarkets? well, listen, we'll discussing supermarkets? well, listen,- we'll-discussing that. we'll carry on discussing that. momt— we'll carry on discussing that. momt-must— we'll carry on discussing that. thank-much to- we'll carry on discussing that. thank-much to my- we'll carry on discussing that. . thank-much to my guests, we'll carry on discussing that. . thank of-much to my guests, we'll carry on discussing that. thank of the much to my guests, we'll carry on discussing that. thank of the labourlist,iy guests, we'll carry on discussing that. thank of the labourlist, peterests, editor of the labourlist, peter elle claire pearsall , elle edwards claire pearsall, former home office special adviser amy nicholl , broadcaster adviser amy nicholl, broadcaster and author , and ben habib, and author, and ben habib, former brexit party mep . thank former brexit party mep. thank you very much for your thoughts. but what are yours on this? do you think this is the place you think that this is the place for getting for the government to be getting involved capping prices for involved with capping prices for supermarkets and frankly, if it's going supermarkets and frankly, if

it'sit? going supermarkets and frankly, if it'sit? let's going supermarkets and frankly, if it'sit? let's see going supermarkets and frankly, if it'sit? let's see what going supermarkets and frankly, if it'sit? let's see what you've do it? let's see what you've been chris been saying. right, chris says, i farmers if the i pity the farmers if the government mandating a low government are mandating a low price food and bread, milk price for food and bread, milk and bread, they'll severely be shortchanged. and farming is already tough enough. that's true. they are saying it's voluntary , though. i mean, voluntary, though. but i mean, you virginia says that you know, virginia says that this our government this shows our government doesn't know how govern doesn't know how to govern without copying other countries. we should rid of hunt and we should get rid of hunt and get country moving . he get the country moving. he hasn't clue and is making get the country moving. he hatvery clue and is making get the country moving. he hatvery poor, :lue and is making get the country moving. he hatvery poor, pat and is making get the country moving. he hatvery poor, pat says. s making get the country moving. he hatvery poor, pat says. i'veiking us very poor, pat says. i've lived through difficult times, but you've knuckled down and got got with it. we have lost the got on with it. we have lost the resilience become moaners resilience and become moaners who rely on the state, and i suspect part of that is a bit of covid, isn't it? people got a bit used to staying at home. i mean, that's my thoughts. but what yours? you're with me. mean, that's my thoughts. but whananayours? you're with me. mean, that's my thoughts. but wha nana akua. you're with me. mean, that's my thoughts. but wha nana akua. thisre with me. mean, that's my thoughts. but wha nana akua. this is with me. mean, that's my thoughts. but wha nana akua. this is wigb ne. mean, that's my thoughts. but wha nana akua. this is wigb news i'm nana akua. this is a gb news on online on digital on tv, online and on digital radio. the we will radio. after the break, we will continue british continue with the great british debate. the debate. and i'm asking, is the government place to government, is it their place to be food prices? you'll be capping food prices? you'll hear thoughts of my panel, hear the thoughts of my panel, broadcaster author christine broadcaster and author christine hamilton and also broadcast writer and journalist danny kelly. but first, let's get your

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the people's channel. britain's news . channel— news. channel soot- news. channel good afternoon. news. channel- good afternoon. this is momet— good afternoon. this is coming up to 41 minutes after 4:00. we are the people's channel. this is gb news. i'm nana akua. welcome on board. if you've just joined us now, we're returning to our great british debate this houn to our great british debate this hour. and i'm asking, is it the government's place to be capping food prices now as families feel the pinch from the soaring cost of a weekly shop? you may have noficed of a weekly shop? you may have noticed yourself. rishi noticed it yourself. rishi sunak's team is drawing up plans to impose price caps on basic food items . now, if the food items. now, if the supermarkets in because it's supermarkets opt in because it's a voluntary arrangement, supermarkets opt in because it's a voluntary arrangement , then a voluntary arrangement, then they'll be expected to keep the costs of everyday essentials they'll be expected to keep the cost breadieryday essentials they'll be expected to keep the cost bread andiay essentials they'll be expected to keep the cost bread and milk.sentials they'll be expected to keep the cost bread and milk low ials they'll be expected to keep the cost bread and milk low and the like bread and milk low and the food prices have risen . by 99.1% food prices have risen. by 99.1% over the year. so that's one

yeah over the year. so that's one year. it's a fifth higher. so anything you're buying, you can add a fifth of the price of what it would have been last year, which is a lot, which has put a lot of household budgets under under pressure. so for the great lot of household budgets under under |debate. so for the great lot of household budgets under under |debate. so hour,e great lot of household budgets under under |debate. so hour, i'm eat british debate this hour, i'm asking, is actually the asking, is it actually the government's capping asking, is it actually the gove prices? s capping asking, is it actually the gove prices? let's capping asking, is it actually the gove prices? let's see capping asking, is it actually the gove prices? let's see whatapping asking, is it actually the gove prices? let's see what my ng food prices? let's see what my panel make of that. i'm joined by author and broadcaster christine also christine hamilton and also broadcaster journalist danny broadcaster and journalist danny kelly. danny kelly, you know all about food. i nana eat food and i think i eat more than a lot of people, but i eat food . well, of people, but i eat food. well, of course, if there's a bit more of you , you want to fill everything you, you want to fill everything up won't full up properly, you won't get full up. you more. up properly, you won't get full up. you more . to answer up. you can eat more. to answer your— up. you can eat more. to answer your puesttom— up. you can eat more. to answer your question directly— i you can eat more. to answer your question directly is, is it is your question directly is, is it ts tt— your question directly is, is it ts tt tte— your question directly is, is it is it the government's responsibility or is it anything to—omswerl responsibility or is it anything to—omswer tsi to do with the. the answer is molt-m— to do with the. the answer is molt-m tome— to do with the. the answer is molt-m eotme to- to do with the. the answer is no. i'm going to caveat no. but i'm going to caveat teeouse— no. but i'm going to caveat becauseithink_ no. but i'm going to caveat because think that i think now because i think that i think now is because i think that i think now ts tree— because i think that i think now ts tte ttme.— because i think that i think now is the time. if— because i think that i think now is the time. if you're, like amy sort,— is the time. if you're, like amy sott, eomtme— is the time. if you're, like amy said, earning billions of pounds , is said, earning billions of pounds ,—ts tme- said, earning billions of pounds ,—ts tte ttme| , okay. i think now is the time for , okay. i think now is the time torlttt— , okay. i think now is the time torlttt ot— , okay. i think now is the time forlbit of goodwill- , okay. i think now is the time for bit of goodwill from for a bit of goodwill from peopte— for a bit of goodwill from peopte wmo— for a bit of goodwill from people who are doing really, reotty— people who are doing really, really—things.- really well out of things. it toesm-t— doesn't mean that the supermarkets going supermarkets are going to sell a pm— supermarkets are going to sell a ptmt ot— supermarkets are going to sell a ptmt ot mttt— supermarkets are going to sell a ptmt ot mttt ot— supermarkets are going to sell a pint of milk at a— supermarkets are going to sell a pint of milk at a loss. all trey-we— pint of milk at a loss. all tmey-we-to— pint of milk at a loss. all they've .to do - pint of milk at a loss. all they've to do sell it at

they've got to do is sell it at cost.— they've got to do is sell it at cost. okay,— they've got to do is sell it at cost. okay so— they've got to do is sell it at cost. okay, so that way it toesm-t— cost. okay, so that way it doesn't affect— cost. okay, so that way it doesn't affect the farmers who they—wetti they buy it off that way. well, just— they buy it off that way. well, rust-me— they buy it off that way. well, just-me-just- they buy it off that way. well, just-me-just hear. they buy it off that way. well, just me just hear my just hear me out. just hear my toete. — just hear me out. just hear my toete. _toesm-t- just hear me out. just hear my logic. doesn't mean logic. so, so it doesn't mean trot— logic. so, so it doesn't mean trot-dorme— logic. so, so it doesn't mean that-goinglmake. logic. so, so it doesn't mean that going make a logic. so, so it doesn't mean- that-goinglmake a loss that you're going to make a loss on that you're going to make a loss omiteopte— that you're going to make a loss omiteopte re— that you're going to make a loss on people are going to buy on it. people are going to buy otter— on it. people are going to buy otter-reopte— on it. people are going to buy other people going to other stuff. people are going to buy—mme- other stuff. people are going toi tuy—wtme.-ore buy a bottle of wine. people are going— buy a bottle of wine. people are eotme—teopte- going to buy pizza. people are going— going to buy different things where—o- going to buy different things. where—a margin. where you will make a margin. amt— where you will make a margin. amt-wrot— where you will make a margin. amt-whet we— where you will make a margin. and what we mustn't forget and also what we mustn't forget trot—were- and also what we mustn't forget thatturning_we're- and also what we mustn't forget thatturning into we're and also what we mustn't forget thatturning into cuba. we're and also what we mustn't forget thatturning into cuba. we'iis not turning into cuba. this is a temporary— not turning into cuba. this is a temporary measure. ' not turning into cuba. this is a temporary measure. “it: not turning into cuba. this is a temporary measure. siii temporary measure. and you sure we're not turning into cuba? of course we're not. this is a temporary— course we're not. this is a temporary it's temporary measure because it's wotumtory— temporary measure because it's wotumtory-tt-s— temporary measure because it's voluntary.-it's not- voluntary. okay? it's not mandatory— voluntary. okay? it's not momtotory ty- voluntary. okay? it's not mandatory by the government. it's mandatory by the government. tt-s—ttey- it's voluntary. well, they start. — it's voluntary. well, they start. things- it's voluntary. well, they start. i g; tititi e it's voluntary. well, they start. “ “gt; t:tit“ e e it's voluntary. well, they- start. things don't like that, don't people start. things don't like that, don't take people start. things don't like that, don't take it people start. things don't like that, don't take it up, people start. things don't like that, don't take it up, then people start. things don't like that, don't take it up, then pe rules don't take it up, then the rules start about start to change. and what about the impact to say farmers like you say , oh, they'll keep it at you say, oh, they'll keep it at cost price, they might cost price, but then they might start, pushing the start, you know, pushing the farmers them. and start, you know, pushing the faicourse them. and start, you know, pushing the faicourse supermarketsthem. and start, you know, pushing the faicourse supermarkets have and of course supermarkets have economy of scale, the economy of scale, which the farmers don't , and that farmers don't, and that local small farmers and people who supply supermarkets not be supply supermarkets may not be able do that. i think able to do that. i think the government of government might put them out of business. my was business. my answer was tepemtemt— business. my answer was- dependent_ screwing dependent on them not screwing the—start- dependent on them not screwing the—start to- the farmers if they start to them,— the farmers if they start to screw them, i'm- the farmers if they start to screw them, i'm sure of that. wett— screw them, i'm sure of that. well,-farmers_ screw them, i'm sure of that. well, farmers will. the well, the farmers will. the trmers— well, the farmers will. the farmers outspoken farmers are outspoken people. trey-re— farmers are outspoken people. ttey-re—ereot

they're not soft. they're great at they're not soft. they're great ot-tmow— they're not soft. they're great at-know about- they're not soft. they're great at know about how at letting us know about how serewet— screwed they are with super. vett— screwed they are with super.i yeah _government screwed they are with super. - yeah _ government do yeah but will the government do omytmtme— anything to help them? ctrtstme— anything to help them? christine-i- anything to help them? - christine-i-this is christine? well, i think this is eomptete— christine? well, i think this is complete_mean,. christine? well, i think this isj complete _ mean, in complete madness. i mean, in mother— complete madness. i mean, in another-margaret- another context, margaret tmotemer— another context, margaret thatcher ago, thatcher said many decades ago, you—tme— thatcher said many decades ago, you—the market.- thatcher said many decades ago, you the market. and you can't buck the market. and sme— you can't buck the market. and sue-totttme— you can't buck the market. and she-talking about- you can't buck the market. and she talking about the she was talking about the ttmometot— she was talking about the financial markets. to me , you financial markets. to me, you oomot— financial markets. to me, you oomot pust— financial markets. to me, you cannot buck the _ financial markets. to me, you cannot buck the supermarket momet.— cannot buck the supermarket mortet. tt— cannot buck the supermarket mortet. tt ts— cannot buck the supermarket market. it is about the most euttmroot— market. it is about the most cutthroat business there is. we-we— cutthroat business there is. we-we got— cutthroat business there is. we've got we've- cutthroat business there is. we've got we've got what is it, six-supermarkets- we've got we've got what is it, six-supermarkets ,- we've got we've got what is it, six supermarkets , aldi and six major supermarkets, aldi and nut,— six major supermarkets, aldi and trot-tursttme— six major supermarkets, aldi and lidl,-bursting onto- six major supermarkets, aldi and lidl, bursting onto the lidl, came bursting onto the scene and they— lidl, came bursting onto the scene and they forced ewerypoty-s- scene and they forced everybody's prices down. and trey-re— everybody's prices down. and they're advertising their they're always advertising their prtees— they're always advertising their prtees opotmst— they're always advertising their prices against other. prices against each other. i , youlto— prices against each other. i mean , you to for the sake of mean, you go to for the sake of argument— mean, you go to for the sake of argument sainsbury's it'll argument sainsbury's and it'll say .— argument sainsbury's and it'll soy , you— argument sainsbury's and it'll soy , you mow,— argument sainsbury's and it'll say , you know, this is 5% say, you know, this is 5% steeper— say, you know, this is 5% cheaper-tesco- say, you know, this is 5% cheaper tesco or say, you know, this is 5%- cheaper-tesco or whatever. cheaper than tesco or whatever. so cheaper than tesco or whatever. so trey-re— cheaper than tesco or whatever. so they're always— cheaper than tesco or whatever. so they're always vying for it. amt— so they're always vying for it. amt times— so they're always vying for it. and things like— so they're always vying for it. and things like staples, like tutt— and things like staples, like wttt mt— and things like staples, like milk and bread,— and things like staples, like milk and bread, some of them are prototty— milk and bread, some of them are propopty toss— milk and bread, some of them are probably loss leaders anyway , probably loss leaders anyway, mt— probably loss leaders anyway, omt t— probably loss leaders anyway, omt t tom-t— probably loss leaders anyway, and i don't think— probably loss leaders anyway, and i don't think rishi sunak he propotty— and i don't think rishi sunak he probably doesn't— and i don't think rishi sunak he probably doesn't go to he toesm-t— probably doesn't go to he toesm-t 90— probably doesn't go to he doesn't go to— probably doesn't go to he doesn't go to the supermarket. he doesn't go to the supermarket. te toesm-t— doesn't go to the supermarket. he doesn't know— doesn't go to the supermarket. he doesn't know we are very tuety— he doesn't know we are very tuety where— he doesn't know we are very lucky where we— he doesn't know we are very lucky where we are because very, very—got- very close together. we've got an very close together. we've got em attt — very close together. we've got em attt or— very close together. we've got em attt or ts— very close together. we've got an aldi or is it— very close together. we've got an aldi or is it a— very close together. we've got an aldi or is it a little i sum-t— an aldi or is it a little i can't remember. but anyway, one of can't remember. but anyway, one ot-mext— can't remember. but anyway, one ot-mext toot- can't remember. but anyway, one of-next door, we've- of those our next door, we've got— of those our next door, we've got-so— of those our next door, we've got-so we - of those our next door, we've got-so we start- of those our next door, we've got so we start our got waitrose, so we start our stop — got waitrose, so we start our stop tm— got waitrose, so we start our stop it tte — got waitrose, so we start our stop it tte-or- got waitrose, so we start our shop in the or the lidl,

shop in the aldi or the lidl, wttetewer— shop in the aldi or the lidl, whichever-is.- shop in the aldi or the lidl, whichever is. and if whichever one it is. and if ttey-we— whichever one it is. and if ttey-we got— whichever one it is. and if they've got what want, whichever one it is. and if they've got what-want, get whichever one it is. and if ththere got what-want, get whichever one it is. and if ththere because .want, get whichever one it is. and if ththere because it's want, get whichever one it is. and if ththere because it's cheaper. get it there because it's cheaper. ttet—tol it there because it's cheaper. . ttet—to get then you go to waitrose to get the then you go to waitrose to get tte ttmtts— then you go to waitrose to get tte ttmes-you— then you go to waitrose to get the things you that the things that you want that ttey— they haven't got. and people are very,— they haven't got. and people are very—wtet— they haven't got. and people are very—wtet tt- they haven't got. and people are very,_when it comes. very, very savvy when it comes to—stoppme- very, very savvy when it comes to—stoppmg mtl to supermarket shopping and i just ttmt— to supermarket shopping and i just ttmt tt-s— to supermarket shopping and i just think it's crazy and as somebody— just think it's crazy and as somebody on— just think it's crazy and as somebody on your panel said, it wttt— somebody on your panel said, it wttt rust— somebody on your panel said, it will just force— somebody on your panel said, it will just force the— somebody on your panel said, it will just force the prices down mt— will just force the prices down mt tt-s— will just force the prices down mt tt-s you— will just force the prices down mt is you soy— will just force the prices down and it's you say the farmers are restttett— and it's you say the farmers are restttett tut— and it's you say the farmers are resilient but they're not the farmers. no,— resilient but they're not the farmers. no, no,- resilient but they're not the farmers. no, no, i- resilient but they're not the farmers. \ttit “ e resilient but they're not the farmers. \tit e farmers. no, no, i didn't say resilience. what i said was that they can be outspoken. so i didn't say resilient. so what i mean is if the government sorry, if sainsbury's and the supermarkets start to chip away at margins from the from the at the margins from the from the farmers a passing at the margins from the from the farmloss a passing at the margins from the from the farmloss down a passing at the margins from the from the farmloss down the a passing at the margins from the from the farm loss down the farmersig at the margins from the from the farm loss down the farmers , that loss down to the farmers, then the farmers let us then the farmers will let us know it. but should know about it. but why should that case? why should the that be the case? why should the pressurerom-t - that be the case? why should the pressure _from the - pressure be placed from the government— pressure be placed from the government onto the supermarkets to-wttt— government onto the supermarkets to-wttt tte — government onto the supermarkets to -with the situation - government onto the supermarkets to with the situation when to deal with the situation when it's to deal with the situation when tt-s-tte— to deal with the situation when it's the government it's actually the government toe— who've created the situation? wett— who've created the situation? wett .— who've created the situation? well , exactly. the— who've created the situation? �*titt�*tiii 6&6?de the government, well, exactly. the government, teeouse— well, exactly. the government, because they're _ �*titt�*tiii 6&6?de the government, because they're ridiculous. mtttttot— because they're ridiculous. mtttttm .— because they're ridiculous. inflation . it's— because they're ridiculous. inflation . it's not- because they're ridiculous. inflation . it's not just- because they're ridiculous. inflation . it's not just in the inflation. it's not just in the uk. no, but the government's rttteutous— uk. no, but the government's ridiculous reaction— no, but the government's ridiculous reaction to covid mommott— ridiculous reaction to covid mammoth lockdown and quantitative— mammoth lockdown and quantitative easing and goodness ttows— quantitative easing and goodness knows—tt— quantitative easing and goodness ttows—tt we- quantitative easing and goodness knows—if we had. quantitative easing and goodnessi knows—if we had the quantitative easing and goodness know of if we had the quantitative easing and goodness know of aldi if we had the quantitative easing and goodness know of aldi and if we had the quantitative easing and goodness know of aldi and the if we had the quantitative easing and goodness know of aldi and the head had the quantitative easing and goodness know of aldi and the head ofj the

head of aldi and the head of utt— head of aldi and the head of tttt os— head of aldi and the head of lidl as prime— head of aldi and the head of lidl as prime minister and governor of— lidl as prime minister and governor of the - lidl as prime minister and governor of the bank of england, we woutt— governor of the bank of england, we would probably— governor of the bank of england, we would probably be rather tetter— we would probably be rather tetter ott— we would probably be rather better off, but— we would probably be rather better off, but they'd be well ott. — better off, but they'd be well ott. ttey-re— better off, but they'd be well off. they're the _ better off, but they'd be well off. they're the ones who created— off. they're the ones who created. would- off. they're the ones who created. would you say that ttey-re— created. would you say that they're brothers? ”tile they're brothers? but they fell out. know story about out. you know the story about these each other these two? they hate each other out. other. out. they don't like each other. they so fell they don't like so. so they fell out once. once set out as brothers once. once set up they had a up lidl first, and they had a massive falling out. and the other said, i'm other brother said, right, i'm going i'm going going to set up aldi. i'm going to to going going to set up aldi. i'm going to screw to going going to set up aldi. i'm going to screw you to going going to set up aldi. i'm going to screw you over to going going to set up aldi. i'm going to screw you over now. going going to set up aldi. i'm going to screw you over now. and ing to screw you over now. and that's wherever lidl that's exactly wherever a lidl sets up, an aldi will soon appear and vice versa. well, that's the appear and vice versa. well,- that's-the government. appear and vice versa. well, that government'se government. appear and vice versa. well, that government's responsible t. appear and vice versa. well, that government's responsible for the government's responsible for this are. this inflation. they really are. this window dressing this inflation. they really are. this okay window dressing this inflation. they really are. this okay wiivoluntary,.ing my and. okay it's voluntary, but my guess going to be guess is it's not going to be temporary. i we're going temporary. i think we're going to_ttit— temporary. i think we're going to-up ot— temporary. i think we're going to-up or maybe- temporary. i think we're going to-up on maybe 15- ”g i think we're going to up on maybe 15 pee on to hung up on maybe 15 pee on a pm— to hung up on maybe 15 pee on a pttt ot— to hung up on maybe 15 pee on a pm ot mttt— to hung up on maybe 15 pee on a pint of milk, but— to hung up on maybe 15 pee on a pint of milk, but okay, i agree. tusmess— pint of milk, but okay, i agree. business christine, you and i agree— business christine, you and i agree or— business christine, you and i agree on ttot— business christine, you and i agree on that. but i think it's tte— agree on that. but i think it's tte tt-s— agree on that. but i think it's tte tt-s tte— agree on that. but i think it's the it's the government leaning on ttem— the it's the government leaning on ttem to— the it's the government leaning on ttem to soy,— the it's the government leaning on them to say, look, we're in ms— on them to say, look, we're in ttts mess— on them to say, look, we're in ttts mess-you— on them to say, look, we're in this mess.-you-do| this mess. can you please do somettme— this mess. can you please do something and— this mess. can you please do something and maybe just sell a pit— something and maybe just sell a pttt ot— something and maybe just sell a pm ot mttt— something and maybe just sell a pint of milk for— something and maybe just sell a pint of milk for £0.15 less? i cost— pint of milk for £0.15 less? i eost prtee— pint of milk for £0.15 less? i cost price, that's— pint of milk for £0.15 less? i cost price, that's all. we're not— cost price, that's all. we're not ostme— cost price, that's all. we're not asking you— cost price, that's all. we're not asking you to lose money on ttts.— not asking you to lose money on this. despicable. _ not asking you to lose money on this. despicable. i— not asking you to lose money on this. despicable. i think the government should at their government should look at their taxation government should look at their taxatior some the money into

release some of the money into the market from for so the the market from for us. so the tax is clearly taxed too high andifs tax is clearly taxed too high and it's not really helping with inflation. instead, they should actually give us money in actually give us more money in our go and buy our pockets so we can go and buy things normal price and things that are normal price and stop supermarkets to stop forcing supermarkets to push margins . push down their margins. although that there is although i think that there is sort of in my head, i keep sort of a in my head, i keep thinking about windfall on thinking about windfall taxes on companies profited heavily companies who profited heavily over don't know why over covid and i don't know why they haven't dealt they still haven't dealt with that. and that. so like amazon's and people i would people like that, i would like to see them taking some tax from them apparently. and also it would be nice. i mean, amy metttotet— would be nice. i mean, amy mentioned i mentioned this thing, which i. was—tte was horrified actually, that the pretest— was horrified actually, that the pretest-ttm— was horrified actually, that the biggest-that is- was horrified actually, that the biggest that is shoplifted biggest thing that is shoplifted is biggest thing that is shoplifted ts—wttet— biggest thing that is shoplifted ts—wttet ts- biggest thing that is shoplifted ts—wttet ts o- is baby milk, which is a tomtymp— is baby milk, which is a horrifying statistic. would be mee— horrifying statistic. would be tt— horrifying statistic. would be t o— horrifying statistic. would be nice if a few— horrifying statistic. would be nice if a few more billionaires tot— nice if a few more billionaires tot o— nice if a few more billionaires tot o ttttte— nice if a few more billionaires had a little bit— nice if a few more billionaires had a little bit of— had a little bit of philanthropy. �*titt�*tiee had a little bit of- philanthropy. well, amy had a little bit of— philanthropy. well, amy said she was fund it the was going to fund it for the whole . she did. she did. so whole uk. she did. she did. so she's got deep pockets . may she's got deep pockets. may i just say the billionaire then? she's of you she's the best loaf of bread you can is £0.75 from marks and can get is £0.75 from marks and spencer's of beans spencer's the best tin of beans is £0.47 from brilliant is £0.47 from aldi. brilliant stuff . marks and sparks. lovely stuff. marks and sparks. lovely low really can't get low for £0.75. really can't get a lot cheaper than that. i hardly ever eat bread, so i reotty— hardly ever eat bread, so i reotty tot-t— hardly ever eat bread, so i really don't know why you're so

tttm — really don't know why you're so tttm wett— really don't know why you're so thin. well,-bread- thin. well, i have a bread maker, so my own bread maker, so i make my own bread when you say you a bread when you say you have a bread maker, you employ someone as a bread you have a very bread maker or you have a very good . she has good an electrical. she has staff. good an electrical. she has stottltowe— good an electrical. she has staff. i have - no - good an electrical. she has staff.ihave-no i- good an electrical. she hasi staff.ihave-no i have good an electrical. she has. staff.ihave-no i have a staff. i have staff. no i have a treat— staff. i have staff. no i have a treat mter— staff. i have staff. no i have a bread maker. _ staff. i have staff. no i have a bread maker. i— staff. i have staff. no i have a bread maker. 3 tit“t: bread maker. i bought and i stick the thing in there. and then i come back a few hours later and it's a loaf of bread. it's quite handy actually. how much loaf bread cost you much is a loaf of bread cost you then, ingredients? then, with the ingredients? well, maybe £0.30 well, about maybe £0.30 yeah, but you've got the initial youe— but you've got the initial you-we-spett- but you've got the initial you've spend 200, but you've got the initial- you've-spend 200, £250. you've got to spend 200, £250. it you've got to spend 200, £250. tt wos— you've got to spend 200, £250. tt tte— you've got to spend 200, £250. it was like £90,— you've got to spend 200, £250. it was like £90, 90— you've got to spend 200, £250. it was like £90, 90 nicker. i've had it for about five yes — i've had it for about five years. used— i've had it for about five years. used it- i've had it for about five years. e s”titi e years. used it three times. white elephant . exactly. the white elephant. exactly. the show is nothing without you. what the bread maker says nothing without you. and your views . let's welcome a great views. let's welcome a great british voice is there opportunity to be on the show and us what they think and tell us what they think about the topics we're discussing two discussing today? i've got two of i've reid and of you. i've got john reid and kidderminster gareth kidderminster and also gareth wyn jones and snowdonia. gareth, kidderminster and also gareth wyrgoing. and snowdonia. gareth, kidderminster and also gareth wyrgoing. and snowdyou. gareth, kidderminster and also gareth wyrgoing. and snowdyou. theeth, i'm going to come to you. the government's plan , and they're government's plan, and they're saying they're going try saying that they're going to try and have and get supermarkets to have products that are cheap. i mean , how does that affect you as a farmer ? well, again , it's

farmer? well, again, it's ridiculous. what are they even ttterterme— ridiculous. what are they even interfering the _ ridiculous. what are they even interfering the cost— ridiculous. what are they even interfering the cost of- interfering the cost of production— interfering the cost of production for every farm has gone— production for every farm has gorse ttrouet— production for every farm has gone through the roof. you know, we've seen food— gone through the roof. you know, we've seen food shortages. mere-s— we've seen food shortages. ttere-s toss— we've seen food shortages. there's less land— we've seen food shortages. there's less land now.- we've seen food shortages. there's less land now. we're losing land to rewilding. we're losing land to rewilding. we're losing land to solar farms. we're losing land to building, you know, and we still are expected to feed the nation affordably. it's crazy . and i'll affordably. it's crazy. and i'll tell you something now , it won't tell you something now, it won't be the supermarket that will be paying be the supermarket that will be paying that price . when it's paying that price. when it's lowered, it will be the farmer . lowered, it will be the farmer. and cheap food comes at a cost. cheap food comes at a cost to the environment. it comes at a cost to the animals and it comes at a cost to the farmer. many ill health in this industry is at a low, and when these multi—million bars in london start to pushing buttons and telling farmers what to do and how to do it, it's absolutely ridiculous . we want to feed the ridiculous. we want to feed the nafion ridiculous. we want to feed the nation affordably, sustainably and regeneratively, but we need that backing. and when we hear the person that's in charge of

this country saying these things, it's absolute be getting every farmer totally frustrated and furious. and they want to start to change things . so we start to change things. so we need to be looking at government . we need to be looking at policies , and we need to be policies, and we need to be looking at fair price for what looking at a fair price for what we're producing or you won't have them. farmers on the ground producing that food . thank you producing that food. thank you very much producing that food. thank you very must tor— producing that food. thank you very much for that. _ producing that food. thank you very much for that. very- very much for that. very posstotote— very much for that. very passionate put. gareth jones passionate put. gareth wyn jones wtot— passionate put. gareth wyn jones wtot otout— passionate put. gareth wyn jones wtot about you,— passionate put. gareth wyn jones what about you, john? do you do you agree— what about you, john? do you do you agree wttt— what about you, john? do you do you agree with gareth? jtit you agree with gareth? do i agree— you agree with gareth? do i agree wttt— you agree with gareth? do i agree with him? 101. - you agree with gareth? jtit tigiiti '“ 7’ 101. my you agree with gareth? do i agree with him? 101. my goodness me, sir, what a case you've made for it. and how wonderful to say wtat— for it. and how wonderful to say wtat you— for it. and how wonderful to say wtat you sat— for it. and how wonderful to say what you said to— c and how wonderful to say what you said to answer your guesttom— what you said to answer your question, nana— what you said to answer your question, nana is— what you said to answer your question, nana is the government going— question, nana is the government gottg to— question, nana is the government gomg to te— question, nana is the government gomg to te goot— question, nana is the government going to be good for capping ? going to be good for capping? of going to be good for capping? of ourse— going to be good for capping? of course they— going to be good for capping? of course they shouldn't- going to be good for capping? of course they shouldn't be capping prices . how can it be capping prices. how can it be that they can produce lambs in new zealand and get them at a table price in the uk cheaper than our english farmers can do? it's not right. we should be sutstttsmg— it's not right. we should be subsidising the— it's not right. we should be subsidising the farmers, making all subsidising the farmers, making at tte— subsidising the farmers, making at tte taps— subsidising the farmers, making all the caps away— subsidising the farmers, making

all the caps away and letting the all the caps away and letting tte market— all the caps away and letting the market forces work their tusmess— the market forces work their business because our british tarmers— business because our british farmers are in— business because our british farmers are in my world, are the test— farmers are in my world, are the test m— farmers are in my world, are the test it tte— farmers are in my world, are the best in the world— farmers are in my world, are the best in the world and i would support— best in the world and i would support ttem— best in the world and i would support them 101.— best in the world and i would support them 101. well said, ttmt— support them 101. well said, sir. thank you— support them 101. well said, sir. thank you very much to both of sir. thank you very much to both ot you. — sir. thank you very much to both ot you. ttmt— sir. thank you very much to both of you. thank you— sir. thank you very much to both of you. thank you so- sir. thank you very much to both of you. “tits/m“ of you. thank you so much, gareth. wyn jones, a farmer, and also read there in also john read there in kidderminster. lovely talk kidderminster. lovely to talk to you . i don't the you both. i don't suppose the government of the government consulted any of the farmers who'll be farmers or the people who'll be actually producing this food at this price and they were this cheap price and they were expecting the supermarkets to then us at a then then sell out to us at a lower it's sort of it lower price. it's sort of it sort of feels like they haven't thought it through. i've thought it through. but i've been whether it is been asking you whether it is their capping food their place to be capping food prices. lots of you have been getting in touch with your views. jonathan views. let's see what jonathan says. dairy farmer says. he says as a dairy farmer , concerned the , i'm concerned that the retailers will just pass the effect price controls down effect of price controls down the supply chain. to me, as the primary order to primary producer, in order to maintain profit margins. maintain their profit margins. well said. again, bernard says with an election looming, sunak wants our votes are used. aldi and lidl, excuse me, and i shop around. but if prices go too high, i no longer buy that product. i don't need the government to get involved. alexandra says food

alexandra says that food costs far too much, and my family is really struggling . i'm in favour really struggling. i'm in favour of anything the government wants to i've to do to help us. as i've scrimped as much as i can at this point . but gwen says this point. but gwen says supermarkets made a mint during the pandemic, is of my the pandemic, which is one of my points. always only points. and they always only look their shareholders . look after their shareholders. it's time they help the for pubuc it's time they help the for public a change. love that. well, there's a pull up on twitter throughout show twitter throughout the show asking government's asking is it the government's place to capping prices? place to be capping food prices? and 38% of you say and currently 38% of you say yes. remainder, 62% say no . yes. the remainder, 62% say no. well, you're with me. i'm nana akua. this is gb news on tv online, and on digital radio. still to come, it's this week's outside. and now my special mystery is an olympic mystery guest is an olympic heptathlete runner and a heptathlete a relay runner and a long jumper , but she also got long jumper, but she also got a bronze medal retrospectively after a russian athlete failed to have it after a doping ban was overturned and failed to have a doping ban overturned. she first entered the sporting world stage at the age of 27. any guesses who she might be? but before that, we'll go into

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the programmes. i'm nana akua andifs the programmes. i'm nana akua and it's now time for worldview and it's now time for worldview and on the menu, us president joe biden and house speaker republican kevin mccarthy have reached an agreement to raise the us debt ceiling. president biden stated that the deal is an important step forward and then travelling over to america now let's have a chat with the host of the politics people podcast, paul , to give an paul duddridge, to give us an update. so paul duddridge, joe biden speaks the debt ceiling . biden speaks the debt ceiling. really? what is that all about ? really? what is that all about? well it's just how much of the credit card can we continue to max out? because as we're all very,— max out? because as we're all very, very— max out? because as we're all very, very teet— max out? because as we're all very, very keen to— tite7’ because as we're all very, very keen to keep proteetmg— very, very keen to keep protecting ukraine's borders as opposet— protecting ukraine's borders as opposet to— protecting ukraine's borders as opposet to our— protecting ukraine's borders as opposed to our own and they've in opposed to our own and they've it true— opposed to our own and they've in true political— opposed to our own and they've in true political fashion, these ttese— in true political fashion, these these hotheads_ in true political fashion, these these hotheads have come to a teetstot— these hotheads have come to a teetstot to— these hotheads have come to a decision to kick— these hotheads have come to a decision to kick the can down tte— decision to kick the can down tte roat— decision to kick the can down tte roat tor— decision to kick the can down the road for two— decision to kick the can down the road for two years. so ttey-re— the road for two years. so ttey-re gomg— the road for two years. so they're going to- the road for two years. so they're going to accept maxing out the credit card even more . out the credit card even more. and we'll look again in two years time and who knows who'll be president, right? well, who knows? it could— be president, right? well, who knows? it could be— : ”g“7 well, who knows? it could be trump, but protatty— knows? it could be trump, but protatty tot— knows? it could be trump, but probably not ron— knows? it could be trump, but probably not ron desantis, after

his probably not ron desantis, after tts tautet— probably not ron desantis, after tts tautet .— probably not ron desantis, after his launch . talk— probably not ron desantis, after his launch . talk to us about his launch. talk to us about ttat— his launch. talk to us about that-disaster- his launch. talk to us about that.-disaster on- his launch. talk to us about that. disaster on twitter. that. that disaster on twitter. teat.— that. that disaster on twitter. teat. watt.— that. that disaster on twitter. teat. wett. we— that. that disaster on twitter. yeah, well, we talked- that. that disaster on twitter. yeah, well, we talked last week said, you know, we said he was going to launch on wednesday and he did. and he launched on twitter elon musk twitter and he had elon musk interviewing him and the whole thing was a complete, complete catastrophe . i people catastrophe. i think people are making of it's making too much of it. it's going to be forgotten very, very quickly. it was just hilarious going to be forgotten very, very qui a ly. it was just hilarious going to be forgotten very, very qui a second. s just hilarious going to be forgotten very, very qui a second. what hilarious going to be forgotten very, very qui a second. what hiletheis for a second. what are the lovely nuggets of lovely little nuggets out of this was it was the very first time seen biden time i've seen biden successfully troll this successfully troll anybody. this is and the twitter is how bad and the twitter launch was . so twitter was going launch was. so twitter was going really bad in the midst of it all, biden's team just put this little tweet out saying this link it went to link works. and it just went to biden's campaign donations. so when you can be trolled , what when you can be trolled, what was it that went wrong, though? some people don't know what tapperet— some people don't know what tappetet. wtat— some people don't know what happened. what was that went happened. what was it that went wrong— happened. what was it that went wong—o- wrong with this thing on twtttere— wrong with this thing on twitter?-i'm- wrong with this thing on twitter? i'm no big tech twitter? well, i'm no big tech guru— twitter? well, i'm no big tech guru tut— twitter? well, i'm no big tech gum, put my— twitter? well, i'm no big tech guru, but my understanding was it guru, but my understanding was tt was— guru, but my understanding was tt a— guru, but my understanding was tt a mast— guru, but my understanding was it was a mash up— guru, but my understanding was it was a mash up of the amount it was a main up of the amount of it was a mash up of the amount ot tottowers— it was a mash up of the amount of followers that— it was a mash up of the amount of followers that elon musk atreaty— of followers that elon musk atreaty tas. — of followers that elon musk already has. so- of followers that elon musk already has. so some sort of, let's say, server thing that

that elon musk has because he has such a large number of followers, mixed with the server required to handle that many listeners. i think it was like half a million listener at one point. those two things didn't mesh very well . people did get mesh very well. people did get in and listen, but they were having to come in through accounts which had fewer followers. it apparently it followers. so it apparently it was it basically wish i'd just said crashed you. that's the thing. that's said crashed you. that's the thing . that's what we're waiting thing. that's what we're waiting for. thing. that's what we're waiting tor. tte— thing. that's what we're waiting tor. tte wort— thing. that's what we're waiting for. the word is— “t; that's what we're waiting for. the word is crashed. well tut— for. the word is crashed. well tut ttat-s— for. the word is crashed. well but that's why— for. the word is crashed. well but that's why apparently. so wtat— but that's why apparently. so wtat tappetet— but that's why apparently. so what happened to trump then? wtat-s— what happened to trump then? what's-because- what happened to trump then? what's-because i. what happened to trump then? what's because i feel what's he up to? because i feel tte— what's he up to? because i feel ttte-temg— what's he up to? because i feel like-being-quiet. - what's he up to? because i feel like being quiet. has like he's being quite quiet. has tee — like he's being quite quiet. has tee _gutte- like he's being quite quiet. has he? _quite quiet.| he? he has been quite quiet. well, this week he met with he met with boris johnson on thursday. we only found out this on friday. we don't know where they met or officially what they discussed . but the word that discussed. but the word is that bods discussed. but the word is that boris johnson met with trump in the of converting him to the hope of converting him to being of an enthusiast for being more of an enthusiast for the ukraine for the for the war in ukraine and supporting ukraine, because he's viewed as very much i think he's actually just viewed as a peacemaker. but

there are people that will try and sort of present him as some kind of putin supporter. but apparently that was that's the official line from johnson's camp, is that he was trying to maybe make a case for supporting ukraine more fully in the coming in the coming campaign. and so that was and this week, of course, this week, of course, we now have a date for trump's criminal trial. now have a date for trump's criminal trial . in march 20th criminal trial. in march 20th march 25th. next year. no suggestion of election interference at all from the establishment . it's crucial that establishment. it's crucial that the stormy daniels trial goes aheadin the stormy daniels trial goes ahead in march 25th, slap bang in the middle of a presidential campaign. but please, anybody that that's election that says that's election interference by the establishment, they need establishment, please, they need to washed to have their mouth washed out with soap, honestly, as if they think we see that. paul think we can't see that. paul duddridge, thank— think we can't see that. paul duddridge, thank-very. think we can't see that. paul. duddridge, thank-very much. think we can't see that. paul. dudditoge, thank-very much. think we can't see that. paul. dudditoge, tit0|k-very much. think we can't see that. paul. dudditoge, tit0|k.he's( much. think we can't see that. paul. duddito je, tit0|k. he's the ich. good to talk to you. he's the tost— good to talk to you. he's the host-politics- good to talk to you. he's the host politics people host of the politics people poteast— host of the politics peoplei podcast, _diaz host of the politics people- podcast, _diaz ayub podcast, as ever. greg diaz ayub opp.— podcast, as ever. greg diaz ayub opt, topetutty— podcast, as ever. greg diaz ayub obe, hopefully catching up with him obe, hopefully catching up with ttm—ttatt- obe, hopefully catching up withi him _thank-paul. him next week. thank you, paul. wett— him next week. thank you, paul. wet—stit- him next week. thank you, paul. wett—stttt to- him next week. thank you, paul. well,_still to come.| well, loads more still to come. twe— well, loads more still to come. we got— well, loads more still to come. we got my— well, loads more still to come. i've got my mystery guest on outstte— i've got my mystery guest on outside coming—

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is under review following reports the show could be axed . reports the show could be axed. sources have told gb news that bosses have just seven days to save the programme following the phillip schofield affair. staff members who raised concerns about the tv presenter's actions, say executives need to prove they're properly address the issue. the broadcaster has confirmed the show will air tomorrow, but viewer opinions vary over the fallout . it's not vary over the fallout. it's not really for us to— vary over the fallout. it's not really for us to judge- it's not really for us to judge someone. i really for us to judge someone. . naan— really for us to judge someone. . nnaa— really for us to judge someone. i mean, what he— really for us to judge someone. i mean, what he did— really for us to judge someone. i mean, what he did and- really for us to judge someone. i mean, what he did and what if it's true that this young chap was 18? there's nothing to do with that. i think he should speak to his family. i will say that i speak to his family. i will say that . nann— speak to his family. i will say that i think perhaps- " can i will say that i think perhaps the show needs— that i think perhaps the show neeae freeh— that i think perhaps the show needs fresh people on. i think anat— needs fresh people on. i think that ane— needs fresh people on. i think that the show— needs fresh people on. i think that the show really relied on the chemistry— that the show really relied on the chemistry that holly and nnn— the chemistry that holly and nnn nan— the chemistry that holly and phil had for— the chemistry that holly and phil had for me. less. i'm less keen to watching the programmes with them as they split, am i right? and i think they are only

going to get the career even bigger now. you know, i like i like phil and holly, so i'm very sad to see them go because i loved i loved them both. so it's a pity really . and i was- : : so it's a pity really . and i was shocked a pity really. and i was shocked to near— a pity really. and i was shocked to hear about— a pity really. and i was shocked to hear about phil— a pity really. and i was shocked to hear about phil because i nnn-a— to hear about phil because i didn't think— to hear about phil because i didn't think he'd do anything une— didn't think he'd do anything like anae— didn't think he'd do anything like that .— didn't think he'd do anything like that , be— didn't think he'd do anything like that , be so— didn't think he'd do anything like that , be so deceitful . but like that, be so deceitful. but it oonoo— like that, be so deceitful. but it ae— like that, be so deceitful. but it comes as new— like that, be so deceitful. but it comes as new details emerge about— it comes as new details emerge about phillip— it comes as new details emerge about phillip schofield's relationship— about phillip schofield's relationship with the young itv employee— relationship with the young itv employee who — relationship with the young itv employee who was reportedly 50, 18 employee who was reportedly 50, no years— employee who was reportedly 50, no yean om— employee who was reportedly 50, 18 years old when— employee who was reportedly 50, 18 years old when the first met the 18 years old when the first met ane nau— 18 years old when the first met the man on— 18 years old when the first met the mail on sunday, says the tv presenter— the mail on sunday, says the tv presenter arranged— the mail on sunday, says the tv presenter arranged an interview for hm,— presenter arranged an interview for nnn union— presenter arranged an interview for him, which resulted in a job as a runner when— for him, which resulted in a job as a runner when he turned 18. ene— as a runner when he turned 18. the affair— as a runner when he turned 18. the affair started— as a runner when he turned 18. the affair started later- as a runner when he turned 18. the affair started later while editor of the mail on sunday. charlotte griffiths says as they were right to question the relationship up. it's so unprecedented- c. it's so unprecedented and he wrote relationship up. it's so- unprecedented and he wrote to kane— unprecedented and he wrote to katie nano— unprecedented and he wrote to katie hind and— unprecedented and he wrote to katie hind and said , i don't katie hind and said, i don't expect— katie hind and said, i don't expect any— katie hind and said, i don't expect any mercy , which is expect any mercy, which is extraordinary— expect any mercy, which is extraordinary .— expect any mercy, which is extraordinary . and it's because extraordinary. and it's because aoauauy— extraordinary. and it's because actually katie _ extraordinary. and it's because actually katie had been very brave— actually katie had been very brave and— actually katie had been very brave and done— actually katie had been very brave and done a story a couple of weeks— brave and done a story a couple of weeks ago— brave and done a story a couple of weeks ago that— brave and done a story a couple of weeks ago that sort of went aune— of weeks ago that sort of went aune nan— of weeks ago that sort of went quite fan to— of weeks ago that sort of went quite far to hint— of weeks ago that sort of went quite far to hint at this friendship. _ quite far to hint at this friendship. and he sent a

complaina— friendship. and he sent a complaint to— friendship. and he sent a complaint to the to the to ipso ano— complaint to the to the to ipso and said,— complaint to the to the to ipso and said, you— complaint to the to the to ipso and said, you know , the mail and said, you know, the mail has:— and said, you know, the mail nae, you— and said, you know, the mail nae, you know— and said, you know, the mail has, you know ,_ and said, you know, the mail has, you know , got this got this has, you know, got this got this wron-g — has, you know, got this got this wron-g ana,— has, you know, got this got this wron-g and, on— has, you know, got this got this wrong. and, of course we hadn't. ano— wrong. and, of course we hadn't. ana-ne— wrong. and, of course we hadn't. andlhe as— wrong. and, of course we hadn't. andlhe ne— wrong. and, of course we hadn't. and-he was he was- wrong. and, of course we hadn't. and he was he was right to and so he was he was right to apologise— and so he was he was right to apologise nua— and so he was he was right to apologise but it's— and so he was he was right to apologise but it's not very onen— apologise but it's not very often p..— apologise but it's not very often in showbiz that people do do often in showbiz that people do oo-nea— often in showbiz that people do oo-nea outpa— often in showbiz that people do do-mea culpa like- often in showbiz that people do do mea culpa like that do a full mea culpa like that and— do a full mea culpa like that and say,— do a full mea culpa like that and say, oon-a— do a full mea culpa like that and say, don't show me any mercy in and say, don't show me any mercy p. onen— and say, don't show me any mercy p. oanen nes— and say, don't show me any mercy in other news this— and say, don't show me any mercy in other news this afternoon, a noe— in other news this afternoon, a five year— in other news this afternoon, a five year oso— in other news this afternoon, a five year old girl— in other news this afternoon, a five year old girl has died nouounnp— five year old girl has died nouounna a— five year old girl has died following a house fire in pembrokeshire. �* pembrokeshire. despite the efforts of emergency services , efforts of emergency services, alicia salisbury passed away at the scene of the blaze in the pond last year. area last night , her family, who described her as a beautiful daughter and sister , are being supported by sister, are being supported by specialist officers. the force says it's working to establish the cause as the government is launching an ad campaign to stop people from crossing the channel the advert is set to be circulated in albania next week, will warn people they face being detained and removed if they make the journey . critics have make the journey. critics have already branded it as pointless,

saying it won't deter them. while a record number of people made the crossings in small boats last year and more than 6000 have been intercepted so far this year. but meanwhile , far this year. but meanwhile, labour says it would impose time limits on hiring overseas workers in a bid to kerb migration. the shadow home secretary, yvette cooper , has secretary, yvette cooper, has told the sunday telegraph it would serve as an incentive to train british workers. she also suggested the party would ask the migration advisory committee for appropriate timescales for importing labour. former defence secretary lord john hutton says it's a balancing act and the economy also needs to be considered. there's no easy solution to this problem though it's a global phenomenon. people are moving around and i nnno— people are moving around and i think wee— people are moving around and i think poa— people are moving around and i think we've got to— people are moving around and i think we've got to certainly oeu— think we've got to certainly neat unn— think we've got to certainly deal with the— think we've got to certainly deal with the boats. the illegal entry— deal with the boats. the illegal enny .— deal with the boats. the illegal enny , nua— deal with the boats. the illegal enny , bu. .— deal with the boats. the illegal entry , but i think— deal with the boats. the illegal entry , but i think we've got to entry, but i think we've got to take— entry, but i think we've got to take a— entry, but i think we've got to take a very— entry, but i think we've got to take a very long,— entry, but i think we've got to take a very long, hard at take a very long, hard look at ane— take a very long, hard look at the one— take a very long, hard look at the other aspects— take a very long, hard look at the other aspects of immigration policy.— the other aspects of immigration policy nano— the other aspects of immigration policy. david davis— the other aspects of immigration policy. david davis referred to nannies— policy. david davis referred to families of— policy. david davis referred to families of students coming in and— families of students coming in and so— families of students coming in and so .— families of students coming in and so on. i mean,— families of students coming in and so on. i mean, i think there

nanos— and so on. i mean, i think there are things that— and so on. i mean, i think there are things that-be- and so on. i mean, i think there are things that be but are things that can be done, but it's are things that can be done, but its-pe— are things that can be done, but n-s-pe none— are things that can be done, but it's-be done in- are things that can be done, but it's-be done in a- are things that can be done, but it's be done in a way it's got to be done in a way pap— it's got to be done in a way- that—economy it's got to be done in a way- that supports—economy it's got to be done in a way- that supports the _economy it's got to be done in a way that supports the growth economy it's got to be done in a way that supports the growth agenday and supports the growth agenda. i and supports the growth agenda. pupp— and supports the growth agenda. nnno anese— and supports the growth agenda. i think these are— and supports the growth agenda. i think these are important fon— i think these are important issues for us— i think these are important issues for us now because i app— issues for us now because i think securing— issues for us now because i think securing economic growth is think securing economic growth ts-ane— think securing economic growth ts-ane ppggaa- think securing economic growth is the biggest economic is probably the biggest economic onauenae— is probably the biggest economic challenge that— is probably the biggest economic challenge that we— is probably the biggest economic challenge that we face. superman-s— challenge that we face. superman's rockets could be asked— superman's rockets could be asked ao— superman's rockets could be asked to introduce a price cap on basis— asked to introduce a price cap on basic food— asked to introduce a price cap on basic food to— asked to introduce a price cap on basic food to help struggling nousenokos— on basic food to help struggling nousenokos. — on basic food to help struggling households . the— on basic food to help struggling households . g on basic food to help struggling households. g households. the government is reportedly drawing up plans suggesting the move . but a suggesting the move. but a treasury source told the sunday telegraph it would be voluntary. the scheme would see retailers charging the lowest possible amount for products like bread and milk , while food prices, and milk, while food prices, which are expected to keep rising, have increased . by 19.1% rising, have increased. by 19.1% in the year to march . to two. in the year to march. to two. just stop oil protesters have been charged after disrupting the gallagher premiership rugby final at twickenham . 37 year old

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schofield scandal ? itv sources schofield scandal? itv sources nave— schofield scandal? itv sources have toke— schofield scandal? itv sources have on on— schofield scandal? itv sources have told gb news bosses have pust— have told gb news bosses have just seen— have told gb news bosses have just nays— have told gb news bosses have just seven days to— have told gb news bosses have just seven days to save . this just seven days to save. this morning— just seven days to save. this morning following the fallout sunounoknp— morning following the fallout surrounding phillip schofield. but surrounding phillip schofield. aua unn— surrounding phillip schofield. out with ns— surrounding phillip schofield. but with his name being so synonymous— but with his name being so synonymous with the brand, can annyo— synonymous with the brand, can annyo p...— synonymous with the brand, can annyo turn it— synonymous with the brand, can anyone turn it around? what do you— anyone turn it around? what do you think?— anyone turn it around? what do you think? email— you think? email gbviews@gbnews.uk .com you think? email— gbviews@gbnews.uk .com or you annka snak— gbviews@gbnews.uk .com or tweet me gbviews@gbnews.uk .com or tweet no a— gbviews@gbnews.uk .com or tweet no at .— gbviews@gbnews.uk .com or tweet no at . ea— gbviews@gbnews.uk .com or tweet no at . on news.— gbviews@gbnews.uk .com or tweet me at . gb news. so— gbviews@gbnews.uk .com or tweet me at . gb news. so it gbviews@gbnews.uk .com or tweet me at. gb news. so it is time on— me at. gb news. so it is time for ans— me at. gb news. so it is time for this week's— me at. gb news. so it is time for this week's outsider my mystery— for this week's outsider my mystery guest— for this week's outsider my mystery guest is a world class tonnen— mystery guest is a world class former heptathlete. now she notes— former heptathlete. now she notes a— former heptathlete. now she notes a no— former heptathlete. now she holds a trio of— former heptathlete. now she holds a trio of olympic medals, but holds a trio of olympic medals, tut tt— holds a trio of olympic medals, tut tt took— holds a trio of olympic medals, but it took ten— holds a trio of olympic medals, but it took ten years to receive two— but it took ten years to receive two ot— but it took ten years to receive two ot tne — but it took ten years to receive two of the three. _ but it took ten years to receive two of the three. now she was won bronze outright in athens in zoos— won bronze outright in athens in zoos, tut— won bronze outright in athens in 2004, but bagging the next two means— 2004, but bagging the next two netats was— 2004, but bagging the next two medals was more— 2004, but bagging the next two medals was more complicated as she ttntsnet— medals was more complicated as she finished fifth— medals was more complicated as she finished fifth sorry, in the neptatnton— she finished fifth sorry, in the heptathlon and _ she finished fifth sorry, in the heptathlon and the four by 400 netne — heptathlon and the four by 400 netne netay— heptathlon and the four by 400 metre relay. but— heptathlon and the four by 400 metre relay. but then it emerged taten— metre relay. but then it emerged taten tnat— metre relay. but then it emerged taten tnat non— metre relay. but then it emerged later that her competitors had not keen— later that her competitors had not been playing— later that her competitors had not been playing by the rules ant— not been playing by the rules and that— not been playing by the rules and that she'd— not been playing by the rules and that she'd been beaten by tnuas— and that she'd been beaten by tnups .— and that she'd been beaten by anups , oneats— and that she'd been beaten by drugs , cheats and since missing drugs, cheats and since missing out on—

drugs, cheats and since missing out on tne— drugs, cheats and since missing out on the podium— drugs, cheats and since missing out on the podium moments and tone— out on the podium moments and being retrospect— out on the podium moments and being retrospect awarded two tone— being retrospect awarded two bronze medals,— being retrospect awarded two bronze medals, she's been team teaten— bronze medals, she's been team teaten ot— bronze medals, she's been team leader of england's athletics tean— leader of england's athletics tean ton— leader of england's athletics team for the— leader of england's athletics team for the commonwealth games leader of england's athletics tenbirminghamnmmonwealth games leader of england's athletics tenbirmingham .imonwealth games leader of england's athletics tenbirmingham .anyiwealth games leader of england's athletics tenbirmingham . any guesses?ames in birmingham. any guesses? wett— in birmingham. any guesses? well,-pleased_ in birmingham. any guesses? well,-pleased to- in birmingham. any guesses? well, pleased to say that well, i'm pleased to say that tn— well, i'm pleased to say that tn joined— well, i'm pleased to say that i'm joined now— well, i'm pleased to say that i'm joined now by kelly sotnenton— i'm joined now by kelly sotherton obe kelly, thank you so nuan— sotherton obe kelly, thank you so must ton— sotherton obe kelly, thank you so much forjoining me. crikey wnoa.— so much forjoining me. crikey wnoa. so,— so much forjoining me. crikey whoa. so, kelly,— so much forjoining me. crikey whoa. so, kelly, talk to me. sonny— whoa. so, kelly, talk to me. sonny youne— whoa. so, kelly, talk to me. sorry you're you're a fantastic atttete— sorry you're you're a fantastic atntete .— sorry you're you're a fantastic atntete , tut— sorry you're you're a fantastic athlete , but a— sorry you're you're a fantastic athlete , but a lot— sorry you're you're a fantastic athlete , but a lot of people athlete, but a lot of people ntpnt— athlete, but a lot of people ntant not— athlete, but a lot of people might not know— athlete, but a lot of people might not know much about your task— might not know much about your task stony. — might not know much about your task stony. so— might not know much about your back story. so talk— might not know much about your back story. so talk to me about what— back story. so talk to me about wnat tnoupnt— back story. so talk to me about what brought you _ back story. so talk to me about what brought you athletics what brought you to athletics ant— what brought you to athletics and you— what brought you to athletics and you know,— what brought you to athletics and you know, so many, you know , and you know, so many, you know ha.— and you know, so many, you know h... youne— and you know, so many, you know , when you're doing— and you know, so many, you know , when you're doing so many evnts— , when you're doing so many evnts now— , when you're doing so many events, how can— , when you're doing so many events, how can you end up being good— events, how can you end up being goon-ot— events, how can you end up being ooon-on tnenn— events, how can you end up being good-of them? it's- events, how can you end up being good of them? it's like good at any of them? it's like wasten— good at any of them? it's like wasten ot— good at any of them? it's like master of all— good at any of them? it's like master of all jack, all master of all jack, of all tastes— master of all jack, of all trades and— master of all jack, of all trades and master of none, but otvtousty— trades and master of none, but obviously—yeah. trades and master of none, buti obviously—yeah . obviously not for you. yeah. soot— obviously not for you. yeah. good afternoon,— obviously not for you. “43?" good afternoon, nana . basically, good afternoon, nana. basically, i good afternoon, nana. basically, twas— good afternoon, nana. basically, twas one— good afternoon, nana. basically, twas ot— good afternoon, nana. basically, i was one of those— good afternoon, nana. basically, i was one of those kids at sonoot— i was one of those kids at school that— i was one of those kids at school that most people probably nate. — school that most people probably nate. .— school that most people probably nate. . wa— school that most people probably hate. i was good— school that most people probably hate. i was good at— school that most people probably hate. g: g hate. i was good at everything, picked first for teams and picked first for the teams and i just natural ability and just had a natural ability and affinity just to do sport as well as being quite academic , well as being quite academic, played netball, hockey, etcetera all the way through school and athletics . and it wasn't really

athletics. and it wasn't really until i went to university that i continued netball and athletics and started to really show my prowess in athletics. so netball got dropped and i just concentrated on athletics. then um, and when i left university city, i didn't go straight into the sport, so i wasn't like a traditional athlete who went to junior championships, etcetera . junior championships, etcetera. i wasn't really that good then. i wasn't really that good then. i wasn't really that good then. i was okay. it was just that i had, uh, i had an opportunity and i was working for a bank at the time and i moved to birmingham and somebody saw something in me and that somebody was the coach of denise lewis, who was then the olympic champion in heptathlon , and that champion in heptathlon, and that was van commenee . and he was charles van commenee. and he said, you've got something, and i'd to coach you. so with i'd like to coach you. so with permission my coach permission of my former coach trevor at the time, trevor marcell sadly passed away , i marcell sadly passed away, i unked marcell sadly passed away, i linked up with denise and charles. and then nine months later after that , linking up, i later after that, linking up, i won an olympic medal in athens.

so it was kind of a rags to fiches so it was kind of a rags to riches story. not that i was in rags , but it was kind of quick, rags, but it was kind of quick, but very late in my in my career. so to speak. so how old were career. so to speak. so how old youn— career. so to speak. so how old were you? because— career. so to speak. so how old were you? because a— career. so to speak. so how old were you? because a lot- (panic? so how old were you? because a lot of peopte— were you? because a lot of peopte tuy— were you? because a lot of peopte tuy son— were you? because a lot of people buy sort of when they get two— people buy sort of when they get tnto tnetn— people buy sort of when they get into their sort— people buy sort of when they get into their sort of— people buy sort of when they get into their sort of 20s will be tttnktnp— into their sort of 20s will be thinking, well,— into their sort of 20s will be thinking, well, i've just got tttenatty— thinking, well, i've just got literally _was . thinking, well, i've just got literally _was ii thinking, well, i've just got. literally _was i was literally no hope. i was i was 26 wnen— literally no hope. i was i was 26 when i linked up with denise and charles. i mean, i'd gone to the commonwealth— a“: i mean, i'd gone to the commonwealth games in 2002 in the commonwealth games in 2002 n wanonesten— the commonwealth games in 2002 in manchester, but— the commonwealth games in 2002 in manchester, but i— the commonwealth games in 2002 in manchester, but i still noon-t— in manchester, but i still hadn't fulfilled any promise . i hadn't fulfilled any promise. i tntnk— hadn't fulfilled any promise. i tntnk .— hadn't fulfilled any promise. i tntnk . was— hadn't fulfilled any promise. i think i was like— hadn't fulfilled any promise. i think i was like i— hadn't fulfilled any promise. i think i was like i was okay. i tttttna— think i was like i was okay. i was filling spaces on the team . was filling spaces on the team. pm,— was filling spaces on the team. an, tut— was filling spaces on the team. an, tutlnat— was filling spaces on the team. an, tutlnat a— was filling spaces on the team. um, butihad a i— was filling spaces on the team. um, but had a i wanted to do um, but i had a i wanted to do ant— um, but i had a i wanted to do ant .— um, but i had a i wanted to do more and i knew— um, but i had a i wanted to do more and i knew i— um, but i had a i wanted to do more and i knew i had something, but more and i knew i had something, tut .— more and i knew i had something, tut . pust— more and i knew i had something, but i just didn't— more and i knew i had something, but i just didn't know how to untook— but i just didn't know how to untook n.— but i just didn't know how to unlock it. and— but i just didn't know how to unlock it. and it— but i just didn't know how to unlock it. and it was just it pust— unlock it. and it was just it tust nat— unlock it. and it was just it was just had an— unlock it. and it was just it was just had an opportunity and i was just had an opportunity and t-wttn— was just had an opportunity and t-wttn tt— was just had an opportunity and t-wttn tt ant— was just had an opportunity and i-with it and i- was just had an opportunity and i-with it and i had- was just had an opportunity and i with it and i had to i just ran with it and i had to one— i just ran with it and i had to ptve up— i just ran with it and i had to ptve up ny— i just ran with it and i had to ptve up my job-— i just ran with it and i had to ptve up my job- .— i just ran with it and i had to give up my job. i charles was putte— give up my job. i charles was quite forceful— give up my job. i charles was quite forceful ,_ give up my job. i charles was quite forceful , like, give up quite forceful, like, give up you— quite forceful, like, give up youri'obn— quite forceful, like, give up yourjobv te— quite forceful, like, give up yourjobv to a— quite forceful, like, give up yourjob, be a full time athlete , ant— yourjob, be a full time athlete , ant-natty— yourjob, be a full time athlete , and-really take- yourjob, be a full time athlete , and really take the bull , and let's really take the bull by , and let's really take the bull ty tne— , and let's really take the bull ty tne nonns— , and let's really take the bull by the horns and— , and let's really take the bull by the horns and give it evenytntnp— by the horns and give it evenytntnp .— by the horns and give it everything . and i and it everything. and i did. and it changed— everything. and i did. and it changed tne— everything. and i did. and it changed the path of my life . um, changed the path of my life. um, in changed the path of my life. um, n that— changed the path of my life. um, tn tnat snon— changed the path of my life. um, in that short period— changed the path of my life. um, in that short period of time , i in that short period of time, i went— in that short period of time, i went tnon — in that short period of time, i went from being _ in that short period of time, i went from being 59th in the wont— went from being 59th in the wont to— went from being 59th in the world to being— went from being 59th in the world to being number three

veny— world to being number three venylputokty— world to being number three verve-quickly -- world to being number three very, quickly . so it was very, very quickly. so it was pust— very, very quickly. so it was just because— very, very quickly. so it was just because i— very, very quickly. so it was just because i was able to tettoate— just because i was able to dedicate that— just because i was able to dedicate that time to being a tutt— dedicate that time to being a nut ttne— dedicate that time to being a full time athlete. um so, you paw,— full time athlete. um so, you know, not— full time athlete. um so, you know, not everyone gets that oppontuntty— know, not everyone gets that opponuntty, tut— know, not everyone gets that opportunity, but i did and it wonkett— opportunity, but i did and it wonkett ton— opportunity, but i did and it worked for me.— opportunity, but i did and it worked for me. so heptathlete, now— worked for me. so heptathlete, now many— worked for me. so heptathlete, how many events— worked for me. so heptathlete, how many events are those? seven — how many events are those? seven so— how many events are those? seven so you— how many events are those? seven. so you have four on one dayt— seven. so you have four on one tayt tnnee— seven. so you have four on one aaya tnnee on— seven. so you have four on one day? three on the— seven. so you have four on one day? three on the next. so it stants— day? three on the next. so it stants wttn— day? three on the next. so it stants wttn a— day? three on the next. so it starts with a 100 _ day? three on the next. so it starts with a 100 metre hurdles. tnen— starts with a 100 metre hurdles. then you— starts with a 100 metre hurdles. then you to— starts with a 100 metre hurdles. then you do high— starts with a 100 metre hurdles. then you do high jump, then shot put tnen— then you do high jump, then shot put tnen seen— then you do high jump, then shot put then 200m and— then you do high jump, then shot put then 200m and then the next day put then 200m and then the next stay we— put then 200m and then the next day we get— put then 200m and then the next day we get up— put then 200m and then the next day we get up ant— put then 200m and then the next day we get up and body aching a ttttte— day we get up and body aching a ttttte ant— day we get up and body aching a little and then— day we get up and body aching a little and then you— day we get up and body aching a little and then you do long jump tavettn— little and then you do long jump tavettn ant— little and then you do long jump javelin and 800m.— little and then you do long jump javelin and 800m. so it's quite a ttntng— javelin and 800m. so it's quite a ttntng two— javelin and 800m. so it's quite a tiring two days.— javelin and 800m. so it's quite a tiring two days. it spread non— a tiring two days. it spread tnon ttke— a tiring two days. it spread from like the— a tiring two days. it spread from like the first day starts, usuatty— from like the first day starts, usuatty at— from like the first day starts, usually at nine— from like the first day starts, usually at nine in the morning ant— usually at nine in the morning and an— usually at nine in the morning and can finish— usually at nine in the morning and can finish at— usually at nine in the morning and can finish at ten at night. then— and can finish at ten at night. then you— and can finish at ten at night. then you nave— and can finish at ten at night. then you have to— and can finish at ten at night. then you have to come back in tne— then you have to come back in tne nonntng— then you have to come back in the morning-just- then you have to come back in the morning. just jump the morning. um, just long jump at s— the morning. um, just long jump at s on— the morning. um, just long jump at s on to— the morning. um, just long jump at s on to tn— the morning. um, just long jump at 9 or 10 in the— the morning. um, just long jump at 9 or 10 in the morning. but tne— at 9 or 10 in the morning. but tne soo— at 9 or 10 in the morning. but the 800 could— at 9 or 10 in the morning. but the 800 could be— at 9 or 10 in the morning. but the 800 could be 10:00 at night. so the 800 could be 10:00 at night. so at— the 800 could be 10:00 at night. so at a— the 800 could be 10:00 at night. so at a championship . so it's so at a championship. so it's veny— so at a championship. so it's veny two— so at a championship. so it's veny two tong— so at a championship. so it's very two long days and that's wtat— very two long days and that's wnat nakes— very two long days and that's what makes.so_ very two long days and that's what makes so tiring. ”cl what makes it so tiring. are you naktng— what makes it so tiring. are you naktng-ttneu— what makes it so tiring. are you making tired just making me feel tired just listening what's the one listening to you? what's the one that hate? what's the. that you hate? what's the. i think the hurdles. did you think it's the hurdles. did you do don't you do hurdles? don't you? do you

have hurdles? yeah you have to do hurdles? yeah you hurdles. and funny enough, you pnopatty— hurdles. and funny enough, you pnopapty-ntgnt- : and funny enough, you probably right because : and funny enough, you proithey right because : and funny enough, you proithey event right because : and funny enough, you proithey event right bdayise it's the first event of the day ant— it's the first event of the day and you— it's the first event of the day and you-to— it's the first event of the day and you _to .that - it's the first event of the day and you to that right. and you need to get that right. so and you need to get that right. so tnats— and you need to get that right. so tnats-one— and you need to get that right. so that's one you're so that's the one you're pnotapty— so that's the one you're. pnotapty—ton so that's the one you're- probably _for sure. probably most nervous for sure. ant— probably most nervous for sure. ant-event— probably most nervous for sure. knot-event ts- probably most nervous for sure. and-event is done. probably most nervous for sure. and event is done and and once that event is done and yove— and once that event is done and you tone— and once that event is done and you-ve tone okay,— and once that event is done and you've done okay, then you can, you— you've done okay, then you can, you know,— you've done okay, then you can, you know, ttt— you've done okay, then you can, you know, fit the _ you've done okay, then you can, you know, fit the other six in. i you know, fit the other six in. t nean— you know, fit the other six in. t mean-ot— you know, fit the other six in. i mean,-of people- you know, fit the other six in. i mean, of people would i mean, a lot of people would nave— i mean, a lot of people would nave-that— i mean, a lot of people would have that probably javelin have said that probably javelin wsnt— have said that probably javelin wasn-t—event- wasn't my favourite event taus— wasn't my favourite event because—goodl wasn't my favourite event. because _ good at wasn't my favourite event- because_good at it. because i wasn't so good at it. tut— because i wasn't so good at it. tut-tt— because i wasn't so good at it. but-it caused- because i wasn't so good at it. but-it caused a- because i wasn't so good at it. but-it caused a lot- because i wasn't so good at it. but it caused a lot of but it yes, it caused a lot of stnss— but it yes, it caused a lot of stnss .— but it yes, it caused a lot of stnss , tut— but it yes, it caused a lot of stress , but i— but it yes, it caused a lot of stress , but i enjoyed all seven. stress, but i enjoyed all seven. tnene— stress, but i enjoyed all seven. tnene was— stress, but i enjoyed all seven. there was always— stress, but i enjoyed all seven. there was always something about east— there was always something about east one— there was always something about east tnat— there was always something about east that t— there was always something about each one that i really enjoyed ant— each one that i really enjoyed ant even— each one that i really enjoyed and even the— each one that i really enjoyed and even the 800m, obviously you— and even the 800m, obviously youn tent-s— and even the 800m, obviously youn neant-s tn— and even the 800m, obviously your heart's in your mouth all tne— your heart's in your mouth all to way— your heart's in your mouth all to way nount— your heart's in your mouth all the way round because that one that— the way round because that one that nunts. — the way round because that one that hurts. but— the way round because that one that hurts. but also it's at the ent— that hurts. but also it's at the end-tt— that hurts. but also it's at the ent-tt youne— that hurts. but also it's at the end-if you're good- that hurts. but also it's at the end if you're good it and end and if you're good at it and i end and if you're good at it and t—tne— end and if you're good at it and t—tne soo,- end and if you're good at it and t—tne soo, tt- end and if you're good at it andj i_the 800, it was it i was good at the 800, it was it wsnt— i was good at the 800, it was it wasnts-a tt— i was good at the 800, it was it wasn't-as it was- i was good at the 800, it was it wasn't-as it was for- i was good at the 800, it was it wasn't as it was for most wasn't so bad as it was for most one— wasn't so bad as it was for most other heptathletes_ wasn't so bad as it was for most other heptathletes who didn't enjoy— other heptathletes who didn't enjoy that— other heptathletes who didn't enjoy that event. that was my tavountte — enjoy that event. that was my favourite race,— enjoy that event. that was my favourite race, actually, the soon — favourite race, actually, the soo. tut— favourite race, actually, the 800. but the— favourite race, actually, the 800. : favourite race, actually, the- 800. but the hurdles i have just ptsd after bashing my knee on one of them, like, one of them, it's like, oh, i hate of them. hate the thought of them. they're the worst. i mean, they're painful. i it's they're just so painful. i it's just you've just got to jump over make sure you over them just to make sure you don't so talk don't get hurt on them. so talk to that. sorry go on. to me about that. sorry go on. yeah, was going to say in yeah, i was going to say in

training plenty times training and plenty of times i've hit my knee and you just learn to. not yeah, do. learn to. not yeah, you do. after that. and you have to wait a couple years get a couple of years to get a medal. was it, was it ten years or to or something. you had to wait to get talk to about get your medal. talk to me about that. yeah. so from beijing. wean.— that. yeah. so from beijing. yeah. correct— that. yeah. so from beijing. yeah. correct so— yeah. so from beijing. yeah. correct so from beijing, i ttttn— yeah. correct so from beijing, i was fifth .fifth,_ yeah. correct so from beijing, i was fifth fifth, and then we was fifth and fifth, and then we was—tnel was upgraded to fourth in the neptatnton— was upgraded to fourth in the. neptatnton—got heptathlon because someone got caught— heptathlon because someone got oaugtt-ttene— heptathlon because someone got oaugtt-tnene .— heptathlon because someone got caught-there . and- heptathlon because someone got caught there . and in our caught out there. and in our pap.— caught out there. and in our not, we— caught out there. and in our 4x4, we finished— caught out there. and in our 4x4, we finished fifth. um, and then— 4x4, we finished fifth. um, and then subsequently , like seven then subsequently, like seven yeans— then subsequently, like seven yeans taten— then subsequently, like seven years later, eight years later, we tent— years later, eight years later, we heard that— years later, eight years later, we heard that one of the belarussians_ we heard that one of the belarussians in the 4x4 had been ttsguattttet— belarussians in the 4x4 had been ttsguattttet .— belarussians in the 4x4 had been disqualified . and— belarussians in the 4x4 had been disqualified . and um, and there disqualified. and um, and there was allegations— disqualified. and um, and there was allegations over one of the ttusstan— was allegations over one of the russian athletes— was allegations over one of the russian athletes who then had her russian athletes who then had ten sanptes— russian athletes who then had her samples tested back from beijing— her samples tested back from beijing ant— her samples tested back from beijing and she— her samples tested back from beijing and she had actually sutseguentty— beijing and she had actually subsequently cheated. jessica tnnts— subsequently cheated. jessica tnnts out— subsequently cheated. jessica tnnts out ot— subsequently cheated. jessica ennis out of a— subsequently cheated. jessica ennis out of a world title as two— ennis out of a world title as two wont— ennis out of a world title as two world titles.— ennis out of a world title as two world titles. i think at the ttne. — two world titles. i think at the ttne. tn,— two world titles. i think at the ttne. tn, so— two world titles. i think at the ttne. tn, so .— two world titles. i think at the time. um, so , so,— two world titles. i think at the time. um, so , so, um, yeah , she time. um, so, so, um, yeah, she went— time. um, so, so, um, yeah, she went to— time. um, so, so, um, yeah, she went to tne— time. um, so, so, um, yeah, she went to the court— time. um, so, so, um, yeah, she went to the court of— time. um, so, so, um, yeah, she went to the court of arbitration of went to the court of arbitration ot spont— went to the court of arbitration ot spont .— went to the court of arbitration ot spont , wntot— went to the court of arbitration of sport , which took about of sport, which took about a yean— of sport, which took about a yean ant— of sport, which took about a year and then— of sport, which took about a year and then once that result ttnougn— year and then once that result came through and in my favour tte— came through and in my favour won the favour— came through and in my favour won the favour of— came through and in my favour won the favour of her losing her notat— won the favour of her losing her netat ant— won the favour of her losing her netat ant ne— won the favour of her losing her medal and me getting it, i got

my notat— medal and me getting it, i got my netat .— medal and me getting it, i got my netat , one— medal and me getting it, i got my medal, one of— medal and me getting it, i got my medal, one of them at the otynpto— my medal, one of them at the olympic stadium— my medal, one of them at the olympic stadium , which was olympic stadium, which was gneat— olympic stadium, which was gneat. ttat— olympic stadium, which was great. that was— olympic stadium, which was great. that was the 4x4 of my tean—nates— great. that was the 4x4 of my team—mates yes— great. that was the 4x4 of my team—mates yes .— great. that was the 4x4 of my team—mates yes. um, and then the neptatnton— team—mates yes. um, and then the neptatnton-was— team—mates yes. um, and then the heptathlon-was at- team—mates yes. um, and then the heptathlon was at the team heptathlon medal was at the team gb heptathlon medal was at the team tt .that— heptathlon medal was at the team tt .that was— heptathlon medal was at the team gb that was celebrating gb ball that was celebrating tyeongotang— gb ball that was celebrating pyeongchang 2018 winter olympics and pyeongchang 2018 winter olympics ant nototy— pyeongchang 2018 winter olympics and nobody knew— pyeongchang 2018 winter olympics and nobody knew that was nappentng,— and nobody knew that was happening, apart from a couple of . happening, apart from a couple ot-. so— happening, apart from a couple ot-. so t— happening, apart from a couple ot-. so t got— happening, apart from a couple ot-. so t got to- happening, apart from a couple of . so i got to have of people. so i got to have a neatty— of people. so i got to have a really intimate— of people. so i got to have a really intimate medal ceremony tnesset— really intimate medal ceremony tnesset up.— really intimate medal ceremony tnesset up. so— really intimate medal ceremony dressed up. so you got a o.enenony — dressed up. so you got a ceremony? “43?" f dressed up. so you got a- ceremony? yeah, because that would be the annoying, but i'd be annoyed. i didn't get didn't get ceremony. but about get the ceremony. but what about what of this? what do you make of this? because talking because you're talking about cheating. head, i'm cheating. and in my head, i'm thinking i see like thinking that when i see like trans women women's trans women in women's sport, i get quite angry that . you get quite angry at that. you know, against know, i've nothing against somebody trans, you know, somebody who's trans, you know, it's not not my it's up to you. it's not not my business. get really , business. but i get really, really angry see trans really angry when i see trans women competing against women because they they're not women in biology , which sport in terms of biology, which sport is all about bodies , surely. is all about bodies, surely. what's view on all that what's your view on all of that ? first, i think a lot of people veny— 7’ first, i think a lot of people are very frightened, especially tenates— are very frightened, especially tenates tn— are very frightened, especially females in sport,— are very frightened, especially females in sport, to talk out atout— females in sport, to talk out atout ttts— females in sport, to talk out about this without being ottenstve— about this without being offensive or— about this without being offensive or offending anybody, and offensive or offending anybody, ant—tt— offensive or offending anybody, ant—tt ts— offensive or offending anybody, ant—tt ts a- offensive or offending anybody, and-it is a tricky- and rightly so. it is a tricky sutteot—

and rightly so. it is a tricky sutteot. t— and rightly so. it is a tricky sutp-eet. t an— and rightly so. it is a tricky subject. i am all for fairness in subject. i am all for fairness tn spont— subject. i am all for fairness tn spont .— subject. i am all for fairness in sport , regardless of what in sport, regardless of what genten— in sport, regardless of what genten you— in sport, regardless of what gender you are _ in sport, regardless of what gender you are .- in sport, regardless of what gender you are . um, i am for gender you are. um, i am for natunat— gender you are. um, i am for natural born— gender you are. um, i am for natural born females having not— natural born females having not own— natural born females having their own category and it's tente— their own category and it's tenate spont.— their own category and it's female sport. now the greater conva— female sport. now the greater conva sensations— female sport. now the greater conva sensations is to be tnotustve— conva sensations is to be inclusive and— conva sensations is to be inclusive and diverse. how do we now— inclusive and diverse. how do we now ts— inclusive and diverse. how do we how is basically— inclusive and diverse. how do we how is basically how does sport or how is basically how does sport on sootety— how is basically how does sport or society cater— how is basically how does sport or society cater for— how is basically how does sport or society cater for a different oategony— or society cater for a different oategony mat— or society cater for a different category that isn't the norm, i snoutt— category that isn't the norm, i snoutt say— category that isn't the norm, i snoutt say .— category that isn't the norm, i should say. um,— category that isn't the norm, i should say. um, and so it's tnats— should say. um, and so it's tnat-s tne— should say. um, and so it's that's the conversation. how do we accommodate _ that's the conversation. how do we accommodate transgender men and we accommodate transgender men ant tn— we accommodate transgender men and women in that,— we accommodate transgender men and women in that, in that, in that— and women in that, in that, in mm oategony— and women in that, in that, in mm oategony ?— and women in that, in that, in that category ? i— and women in that, in that, in that category ? i don't know the that category? i don't know the sotutton— that category? i don't know the sotutton tut— that category? i don't know the solution, but that's the conversation - solution, but that's the conversation on, um, you know , conversation on, um, you know, wnen— conversation on, um, you know, when you— conversation on, um, you know, when you see— conversation on, um, you know, when you see little— conversation on, um, you know, when you see little girls who wno— when you see little girls who are, who want— when you see little girls who are, who want to _ when you see little girls who are, who want to emulate their spont— are, who want to emulate their spont stans— are, who want to emulate their spon stans tn— are, who want to emulate their sport stars in whatever sport, tennts— sport stars in whatever sport, tennts .— sport stars in whatever sport, tennis , motor— sport stars in whatever sport, tennis , motor racing, athletics tennis, motor racing, athletics , us,— tennis, motor racing, athletics ,us swtnntng— tennis, motor racing, athletics , us, swimming, whatnot, you know— , us, swimming, whatnot, you know .— , us, swimming, whatnot, you know , tt— , us, swimming, whatnot, you know , if they're _ , us, swimming, whatnot, you know , if they're they're not know, if they're they're not stanttng— know, if they're they're not stanttng on— know, if they're they're not stanttng on a— know, if they're they're not starting on a level playing nett— starting on a level playing nag, tt— starting on a level playing field, if they're— starting on a level playing field, if they're going to be agatnst— field, if they're going to be .ggna, you— field, if they're going to be against, you know , a boy who's against, you know, a boy who's gone— against, you know, a boy who's gone ttnougn— against, you know, a boy who's gone through puberty because the atvantage— gone through puberty because the atvantage ts— gone through puberty because the advantage is there— gone through puberty because the advantage is there are so great ant— advantage is there are so great ant tte— advantage is there are so great and the sciences— advantage is there are so great and the sciences have come up

ant— and the sciences have come up ant stown— and the sciences have come up and shown that— and the sciences have come up and shown that there is an atvantage.— and shown that there is an atvantage. t— and shown that there is an advantage. i just think the conversation— advantage. i just think the conversation needs to be around now— conversation needs to be around now to— conversation needs to be around now to we— conversation needs to be around now to we teat— conversation needs to be around how do we deal in— conversation needs to be around how do we deal in society and onto— how do we deal in society and ettte spont— how do we deal in society and elite sport because this is recreational— elite sport because this is recreational and elite. it's non— recreational and elite. it's tnon top— recreational and elite. it's tnon top to— recreational and elite. it's from top to bottom . how do we from top to bottom. how do we teat— from top to bottom. how do we teat wttn— from top to bottom. how do we teat wttn tt— from top to bottom. how do we deal with it in— from top to bottom. how do we deal with it in society to make it deal with it in society to make tt tatn— deal with it in society to make tt tatn ant— deal with it in society to make it fair and inclusive and i ton-t— it fair and inclusive and i ton-t nave— it fair and inclusive and i don't have the- it fair and inclusive and i don't have the answers to that, untontunatety— don't have the answers to that, untontunatety .— don't have the answers to that, unfortunately . but i agree with unfortunately. but i agree with wana— unfortunately. but i agree with wana tts— unfortunately. but i agree with wana tt-s a— unfortunately. but i agree with nana it's a tough— unfortunately. but i agree with nana it's a tough it's a tough sutteot— nana it's a tough it's a tough sutteot ttat— nana it's a tough it's a tough subject that a _ nana it's a tough it's a tough subject that a lot— nana it's a tough it's a tough subject that a lot of people ton-t— subject that a lot of people ton-t ttke— subject that a lot of people don't like to— subject that a lot of people don't like to talk about. and pust— don't like to talk about. and tustloase— don't like to talk about. and tustloase ttey— don't like to talk about. and just case they offend or just in case they offend or upset. — just in case they offend or upset. wett— just in case they offend or upset. well, i'm all right with t. — upset. well, i'm all right with t. t— upset. well, i'm all right with t. t ton-t— upset. well, i'm all right with it. i don't see— upset. well, i'm all right with it. i don't see why- upset. well, i'm all right with it. i don't see why they just can't have category. can't have their own category. yeah, the yeah, i don't see what the problem have your own problem is. you have your own category because it's not fair on there's on the women. you know, there's no won't find no you probably won't find a trans competing against men trans man competing against men because that wouldn't make any sense because, mean, you never sense because, i mean, you never know. unlikely know. but it's unlikely that they and they would beat a man. and because they are natural born women. so i don't see why people are having such a difficulty just having a separate just having like a separate category for somebody trans category for somebody for trans athletes. one women and athletes. and one for women and men or an open category that you can want in, can if you want to go in, you can. but don't. i don't see can. but i don't. i don't see why. i think it's think what

why. i think it's i think what tte— why. i think it's i think what to pnotten— why. i think it's i think what the problem is,— why. i think it's i think what the problem is, is— i think it's i think what the problem is, is that, um, is pnotatty— the problem is, is that, um, is probably terminology and forgive me tt— probably terminology and forgive me tt t— probably terminology and forgive me tt t get— probably terminology and forgive me tt t get ttts— probably terminology and forgive me if i get this wrong so female women where a— me if i get this wrong so female women where a male female oategontes— women where a male female eategontes ant— women where a male female categories and trans gender tnansgenten— categories and trans gender transgender women so it's like are transgender women so it's like ttey— transgender women so it's like are they transgender females or tnansgenten— are they transgender females or transgender women ? and i have transgender women? and i have otvtousty— transgender women? and i have otvtousty tt— transgender women? and i have obviously if you're _ transgender women? and i have obviously if you're going to use sost— obviously if you're going to use correct grammar,— obviously if you're going to use correct grammar, that's what it snoutt— correct grammar, that's what it snoutt te. — correct grammar, that's what it snoutt to. t— correct grammar, that's what it should be. i do— correct grammar, that's what it should be. i do think , though, should be. i do think, though, wtat— should be. i do think, though, what potentially— should be. i do think, though, what potentially this could open up ton— what potentially this could open up ton tt— what potentially this could open up ton tt tnene— what potentially this could open up for if there wasn't a sepanate— up for if there wasn't a separate category and transgender- separate category and transgender women were allowed to sonpete— transgender women were allowed to sonpete tn— transgender women were allowed to compete in the— transgender women were allowed to compete in the female sategony— to compete in the female category, natural born females , category, natural born females, i category, natural born females, t tntnk— category, natural born females, t tntnk you— category, natural born females, i think you would— category, natural born females, i think you would probably end up seetng— i think you would probably end up seetng tn— i think you would probably end up seetng tn a— i think you would probably end up seeing in a generation or so ttno— up seeing in a generation or so ttne tne— up seeing in a generation or so time the potential— up seeing in a generation or so time the potential for maybe genten— time the potential for maybe genten toptng— time the potential for maybe genten toptng .— time the potential for maybe gender doping . i don't know gender doping. i don't know mat,— gender doping. i don't know tnat, you— gender doping. i don't know that, you know,— gender doping. i don't know that, you know, there's always so many— that, you know, there's always so many connotations here that ttene-s— so many connotations here that there's unscrupulous people in there's unscrupulous people in to wont— there's unscrupulous people in the world that— there's unscrupulous people in the world that might think that this the world that might think that ttts-te— the world that might think that ttts-ts an— the world that might think that this be an advantage or a this could be an advantage or a nony—naenk— this could be an advantage or a money—maker, but— this could be an advantage or a money—maker, but it's just a ttssusston— money—maker, but it's just a discussion that— money—maker, but it's just a discussion that needs to be had to nave— discussion that needs to be had to have fairness,— discussion that needs to be had to have fairness, inclusion for at.— to have fairness, inclusion for at. tnt— to have fairness, inclusion for at. ant t— to have fairness, inclusion for at. ant t pust— to have fairness, inclusion for all. and i just don't feel tnene-s— all. and i just don't feel there's been— all. and i just don't feel there's been that sensible discussion.— there's been that sensible discussion. it— there's been that sensible discussion. it seems so simple . discussion. it seems so simple. tnt— discussion. it seems so simple. ant to—

discussion. it seems so simple. ant to say— discussion. it seems so simple. and to say what— discussion. it seems so simple. and to say what you're saying, wana— and to say what you're saying, wana pust— and to say what you're saying, wana just go— and to say what you're saying, wana just go .— and to say what you're saying, nana just go . this category is nana just go. this category is for transgender— nana just go. this category is for transgender women. well, it is, for transgender women. well, it ts tut— for transgender women. well, it ts tut t— for transgender women. well, it ts tut t ton-t— for transgender women. well, it is, but i don't think it's astuatty— is, but i don't think it's actually all— is, but i don't think it's actually all that simple. why gm,— actually all that simple. why tn, tt— actually all that simple. why um, it sounds— actually all that simple. why um, it sounds simple, but i just ton-t.— um, it sounds simple, but i just ton-t. t— um, it sounds simple, but i just ton-t. t ton-t— um, it sounds simple, but i just don't. i don't think— um, it sounds simple, but i just don't. i don't think it's that stnpte— don't. i don't think it's that simple. however, i agree with you.— simple. however, i agree with you. t— simple. however, i agree with you. ttust— simple. however, i agree with you. i just think— simple. however, i agree with you. i just think the wider discussion— you. i just think the wider discussion is— you. i just think the wider discussion is how. how does that fit discussion is how. how does that ttt—wttn— fit into society with recreational and elite sport? tesause— recreational and elite sport? tesause you— recreational and elite sport? because you know, society has to attest— because you know, society has to nettest on— because you know, society has to reflect on what's— because you know, society has to reflect on what's happening in the reflect on what's happening in to otte— reflect on what's happening in the elite sport,— reflect on what's happening in the elite sport, but it should do the elite sport, but it should to so— the elite sport, but it should to so .— the elite sport, but it should to so . so— the elite sport, but it should do so . so it's— the elite sport, but it should do so . so it's making sure do so. so it's making sure tnats— do so. so it's making sure that's correct— do so. so it's making sure that's correct . - do so. so it's making sure that's correct . /:::. do so. so it's making sure that's correct . flit. do so. so it's making sure that's correct . tvfltttl. that's correct. you know, i generally don't see what the issue is. i think if you're a transgender woman, you can have issue is. i think if you're a trtransgenderoman, you can have issue is. i think if you're a trtransgender woman ou can have issue is. i think if you're a trtransgender woman category. ve a transgender woman category. you can a category you can have a woman category and then you can have a man and you can have a trans man category. know to make it category. if you know to make it fair for all rather than making it unfair for one, but inclusive in one way by being inclusive doesn't mean that everyone's in the it that the same space. it can mean that everyone has a space. that's all it not taking things it is. it's not taking things out and not and being offensive to seems that to people. it just seems that people around people are tiptoeing around a very logical conclusion which they will come to in the end . they will come to in the end. but we're going to have all this

furore about it until eventually somebody goes, let's have a separate promise separate category. i promise you, words. i separate category. i promise you, words . i think it's you, mark my words. i think it's beeni you, mark my words. i think it's teen t tntnk— you, mark my words. i think it's been i think a— you, mark my words. i think it's been i think a lot— you, mark my words. i think it's been i think a lot of— : ithink it's been i think a lot of people nave— been i think a lot of people nave-on- been i think a lot of people have _on social. have done that on social media ant— have done that on social media antltte— have done that on social media and-the media— have done that on social media and the media and in various and in the media and in various anttstes— and in the media and in various articles—couple- and in the media and in various articles—couple ofi articles over the last couple of yas— articles over the last couple of yas wn— articles over the last couple of yas tn tut— articles over the last couple of years. um but some reason, years. um but for some reason, nototy— years. um but for some reason, nototy-to— years. um but for some reason, nobody-to have- years. um but for some reason, nobody to have grasped nobody seemed to have grasped tnat— nobody seemed to have grasped tnat sonsept— nobody seemed to have grasped that concept and— nobody seemed to have grasped that concept and it it's just tetng— that concept and it it's just tetng gutte— that concept and it it's just being quite kind of probably controversial— being quite kind of probably controversial in— being quite kind of probably controversial in terms of otvtousty— controversial in terms of otvtousty a— controversial in terms of obviously a sport or society or sonnuntty— obviously a sport or society or community arnie— obviously a sport or society or community arnie banning the ntgtts— community arnie banning the ntgnts ot— community arnie banning the ntgnts ot a— community arnie banning the rights of a transgender woman to sonpete— rights of a transgender woman to sonpete tn— rights of a transgender woman to sonpete tn a— rights of a transgender woman to compete in a female category, wntsn— compete in a female category, which obviously— compete in a female category, which obviously for fairness for tnats— which obviously for fairness for women, that's what should happen . tut— women, that's what should happen . tut tntn— women, that's what should happen . tut then not— women, that's what should happen . but then not but— women, that's what should happen . but then not but then not have the . but then not but then not have to sotutton— . but then not but then not have the solution of— . but then not but then not have the solution of a— . but then not but then not have the solution of a category for then — the solution of a category for them. transgender women to sonpete— them. transgender women to sonpete tn.— them. transgender women to sonpete tn. so— them. transgender women to compete in. so it's like , sorry, compete in. so it's like, sorry, you— compete in. so it's like, sorry, you san-t— compete in. so it's like, sorry, you can't compete— compete in. so it's like, sorry, you can't compete in anything the you can't compete in anything to nsns— you can't compete in anything to gnoup— you can't compete in anything the men's group. so if the sotutton— the men's group. so if the solution was— the men's group. so if the solution was another category , solution was another category, let solution was another category, tet someone— solution was another category, let someone do— solution was another category, let someone do another category to see— let someone do another category to tow— let someone do another category to see how well— let someone do another category to see how well that's received ant— to see how well that's received ant asseptet— to see how well that's received and accepted and— to see how well that's received and accepted and what it looks ttke— and accepted and what it looks ttke at— and accepted and what it looks ttke at tte— and accepted and what it looks like at the moment. we don't know— like at the moment. we don't know wtat— like at the moment. we don't know what that— like at the moment. we don't know what that really looks like . t-ve— know what that really looks like . t-ve neant— know what that really looks like . i've heard the— know what that really looks like . i've heard the argument that there won't be enough transgender people in it. that's

why they'd win why it's like, well, they'd win anyway. woman, anyway. usually against a woman, so their own so they can just win their own race. it'd fine. listen, race. it'd be fine. listen, kelly, up to? kelly, what are you up to? briefly? out of briefly? we're running out of time. next thing time. so what's your next thing then ? sorry, that's my cat then? sorry, that's my cat naktng— then? sorry, that's my cat naktng oun— then? sorry, that's my cat making our debut- g�*tzir�*7’ sorry, that's my cat making our debut . g�*tzir�*7 sorry, that's my cat making our debut. um, what 7 sorry, that's my cat making our debut. um, what am i totngt— making our debut. um, what am i totngtlso— making our debut. um, what am i totngtlso t— making our debut. um, what am i doing?iso i work— making our debut. um, what am i doing?iso i work for— making our debut. um, what am i doing? so i work for sport england. actually. iwork doing? so i work for sport england. actually. i work in england. actually. now i work in tatent— england. actually. now i work in talent coaching,— england. actually. now i work in talent coaching, so— england. actually. now i work in talent coaching, so i— 3: actually. now i work in talent coaching, so i help tevetop— talent coaching, so i help develop-and- talent coaching, so i help develop and people talent coaching, so i help- develop-and people of develop coaches and people of the develop coaches and people of to tune— develop coaches and people of the future who _ develop coaches and people of the future who work in the token— the future who work in the talent space.— the future who work in the talent space. um, about 55 spons— talent space. um, about 55 spots so— talent space. um, about 55 spots. so tts— talent space. um, about 55 sports. so it's gone from team teaten— sports. so it's gone from team teaten nave— sports. so it's gone from team leader have been— sports. so it's gone from team leader have been the most sussesstut— leader have been the most successful team - leader have been the most successful team in the commonwealth games and track and nett— commonwealth games and track and nag, wntsn— commonwealth games and track and nag, wttsn was— commonwealth games and track and field, which was brilliant role. atsotutety— field, which was brilliant role. atsotutety.-.— field, which was brilliant role. absolutely, . great. me and absolutely, yeah. great. me and tons— absolutely, yeah. great. me and tonts .— absolutely, yeah. great. me and tonts . tons— absolutely, yeah. great. me and boris . boris yeah.— absolutely, yeah. great. me and boris. boris yeah. had absolutely, yeah. great. me and boris . boris yeah. had such boris. boris yeah. had such a goat— boris. boris yeah. had such a gneat tt— boris. boris yeah. had such a gneat tt was— boris. boris yeah. had such a gneat tt a— boris. boris yeah. had such a great it was a brilliant summer. i great it was a brilliant summer. t was— great it was a brilliant summer. t neatty— great it was a brilliant summer. i was really proud— great it was a brilliant summer. i was really proud to be because i was really proud to be because t ttve— i was really proud to be because t ttve tn— i was really proud to be because i live in birmingham, so i was neatty— i live in birmingham, so i was neatty pnout— i live in birmingham, so i was neatty pnout to— i live in birmingham, so i was really proud to have that oppontuntty— really proud to have that opportunity to- really proud to have that opportunity to lead my team at commonwealth— opportunity to lead my team at commonweamazing and it was absolutely amazing and it was ot— absolutely amazing and it was ot tne— absolutely amazing and it was one of the most— absolutely amazing and it was one of the most inclusive teams wttt— one of the most inclusive teams with - athletes- one of the most inclusive teams with - athletes and - one of the most inclusive teams with athletes and able with the para athletes and able tottet— with the para athletes and able tottet. we— with the para athletes and able bodied. we had— with the para athletes and able bodied. we had to— with the para athletes and able bodied. we had to compete togetnen— bodied. we had to compete together and— bodied. we had to compete together and it— bodied. we had to compete together and it was a pleasure together and it was a pleasure to teat— together and it was a pleasure to teat tntn— together and it was a pleasure to lead them all.— together and it was a pleasure to lead them all. but now we've novet— to lead them all. but now we've novet on— to lead them all. but now we've novet on out— to lead them all. but now we've moved on out of— to lead them all. but now we've moved on out of athletics and pnotustng— moved on out of athletics and pnotustng .— moved on out of athletics and now producing , um, hoping to now producing, um, hoping to suppont— now producing, um, hoping to suppon as— now producing, um, hoping to suppon as many— now producing, um, hoping to support as many more sports as

possttte— support as many more sports as possttte to— support as many more sports as possttte to te— support as many more sports as possible to be to— support as many more sports as possible to be to be greater at soasntng. — possible to be to be greater at soasntng. ant— possible to be to be greater at coaching. and that's my aim at the coaching. and that's my aim at to nonent— coaching. and that's my aim at to nonent — coaching. and that's my aim at the moment. well,- coaching. and that's my aim at the moment. �*ftt�*tzigl the moment. well, you, you keep doing your thing. i know you've got an mba as well. well done kelli. lovely talk kelli. fabulous. lovely to talk to sotherton . she's to you as kelly sotherton. she's an heptathlete . obe an olympic heptathlete. obe kelly sotherton, thank you very much. lovely to talk to you . much. lovely to talk to you. well, if you're just joining me, welcome gb we are welcome this is gb news. we are the channel. live the people's channel. we're live on tv, online and on digital radio. akua now for the radio. i'm nana akua now for the great british debate. i'm asking, can this morning survive the schofield scandal? while itv sources have told gb news bosses at gb news that bosses have just seven days to save, this morning . that's following the fallout surrounding phillip schofield. but with his name being so synonymous with the brand, can they actually turn this around? we'll discuss after this

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tweet— vaiews@gbnews.uk or why not tweet ne— vaiews@gbnews.uk or why not tweet no at— vaiews@gbnews.uk or why not tweet me at gb— vaiews@gbnews.uk or why not tweet me at gb news. what do you tttnkt— tweet me at gb news. what do you nnpp to— tweet me at gb news. what do you tntnkt to you— tweet me at gb news. what do you think? do you think— tweet me at gb news. what do you think? do you think that they astuatty— think? do you think that they can actually save it? so joining me can actually save it? so joining no to— can actually save it? so joining no to ttssuss— can actually save it? so joining me to discuss that, because what nappenet.— happened, obviously if you read the happened, obviously if you readi tne—you-t the mail on sunday today, you'd tave— the mail on sunday today, you'd nave—tte— have noticed that the information- have noticed that the information about schofield, inform ation about schofield, wnene— inform ation about schofield, wnno-tne- information about schofield, where the young runner where he met the young runner wnen— where he met the young runner when—tne- where he met the young runner wnen—tne youngl when he was just the young runner, reportedly 15. runner, was just reportedly 15. ant— runner, was just reportedly 15. and according— runner, was just reportedly 15. and according to— runner, was just reportedly 15. and according to the reports, tne— and according to the reports, the individual— and according to the reports, the individual in— and according to the reports, the individual in question stantt— the individual in question stantet a— the individual in question started a job— the individual in question started a job this morning when he started a job this morning when to tunnet— started a job this morning when to tunnetlso— started a job this morning when he turned .so he _ started a job this morning when he turned so he wasn't under he turned 18. so he wasn't under age— he turned 18. so he wasn't under age-ttttttp— he turned 18. so he wasn't under age phillip schofield age when phillip schofield attegetty— age when phillip schofield allegedly sort— age when phillip schofield allegedly sort of started the encounter that— allegedly sort of started the encounter that they had. so this as nts— encounter that they had. so this comes as his former co—host , comes as his former co—host, wotty— comes as his former co—host, holly willoughby,— comes as his former co—host, holly willoughby, said that his atntsston— holly willoughby, said that his admission was— holly willoughby, said that his admission was very hurtful and statnet— admission was very hurtful and statnet tnat— admission was very hurtful and claimed that schofield had lied wnen— claimed that schofield had lied when previously— claimed that schofield had lied when previously asked about the netattonsttp— when previously asked about the relationship. following all tness— relationship. following all these revelations. so what do you— these revelations. so what do you tttnkt— these revelations. so what do you think? can— these revelations. so what do you think? can they save this nonntngt— you think? can they save this morning? will— you think? can they save this morning? will it— you think? can they save this morning? will it be back on air? t hey— morning? will it be back on air? they sat— morning? will it be back on air? tney satt tt— morning? will it be back on air? they said it would— morning? will it be back on air? they said it would be tomorrow. so they said it would be tomorrow. so—tntttsn- they said it would be tomorrow. so _ british debate i so for the great british debate ttts— so for the great british debate ttts-asktng.- so for the great british debate this-asking,-this| this hour, i'm asking, can this nonntng— this hour, i'm asking, can this morning schofield morning survive the schofield ssantat— morning survive the schofield scandalijoining_ morning survive the schofield scandal joining to discuss, scandal? joining me to discuss, tettnta— scandal? joining me to discuss, belinda _former- scandal? joining me to discuss, belinda former brexit belinda de lucy, former brexit party— belinda de lucy, former brexit tanty tntn— belinda de lucy, former brexit tanty npp ant— belinda de lucy, former brexit party mep and political commentator- party mep and political commentator pauley , commentator nigel pauley, snowttz— commentator nigel pauley, showbiz reporter and express newspapens— showbiz reporter and express newspapens .— showbiz reporter and express newspapers . matthew stadlen, newspapers. matthew stadlen, pottttsat— newspapers. matthew stadlen, political commentator , and ellie political commentator, and ellie ttttttps— political commentator, and ellie phillips,-reporter- political commentator, and ellie phillips,-reporter .- phillips, showbiz reporter. wett— phillips, showbiz reporter. well, ellie,—

phillips, showbiz reporter. well, ellie, going to start well, ellie, i'm going to start wttn—teenl with you, because i've been ttstentng— with you, because i've been listening _reports listening to all your reports on the listening to all your reports on tne-ssantat.- listening to all your reports on the scandal, scourge the schofield scandal, scourge of the schofield scandal, scourge ot-.— the schofield scandal, scourge ot-. so— the schofield scandal, scourge ot-. so wtat- the schofield scandal, scourge of-. so what do- the schofield scandal, scourge of . so what do you of schofield. so what do you tntnkt— of schofield. so what do you nnpp t— of schofield. so what do you think? i mean,— of schofield. so what do you think? i mean, really , do you think? i mean, really, do you tntnk— think? i mean, really, do you tntnk-tnts— think? i mean, really, do you think this morning can think that this morning can sunvtve— think that this morning can survive this— think that this morning can survive this scandal ? so think that this morning can survive this scandal? so i think that this morning can survive this scandal ? so i would survive this scandal? so i would say— survive this scandal? so i would say an— survive this scandal? so i would say an noun— survive this scandal? so i would say an noun ago— survive this scandal? so i would say an hour ago i— survive this scandal? so i would say an hour ago i would have sat— say an hour ago i would have satt yes— say an hour ago i would have satt yes .— say an hour ago i would have said yes , potentially, maybe said yes, potentially, maybe wttn— said yes, potentially, maybe wttn a— said yes, potentially, maybe with a rebrand_ said yes, potentially, maybe with a rebrand of, you know, if wotty— with a rebrand of, you know, if notty teaves— with a rebrand of, you know, if holly leaves two _ with a rebrand of, you know, if holly leaves two new presenters tnonttng— holly leaves two new presenters tnonttng n,— holly leaves two new presenters fronting it, maybe— holly leaves two new presenters fronting it, maybe a change of tut— fronting it, maybe a change of name, but essentially the same nonnat— name, but essentially the same tonnat .— name, but essentially the same tonnat . tte— name, but essentially the same format , the same— name, but essentially the same format , the same time slot, the format, the same time slot, the nagaztne— format, the same time slot, the same magazine style. a. same magazine style. however, um , in same magazine style. however, um . tn tne— same magazine style. however, um , in the last hour, dr. ranj singh, who was the doctor kind of advice doctor on this morning for ten years he's just tweeted a huge four part statement about his experience on this morning and he basically says that the issues with this morning go way beyond phillip schofield saying it takes more than one person to create a toxic culture . he create a toxic culture. he mentions bullying. he says he complained about the behaviour of this morning top bods to the heads of itv . but then when he heads of itv. but then when he did this, he began being used

less and less and thinks that's basically because he was a whistleblower . and he said the whistleblower. and he said the problem is with how people were being treated . you didn't know. being treated. you didn't know. he said he didn't know what happened with phillip schofield. but what's now but think what's happened now is that, likes ranj that, um, the likes of dr. ranj singh, dan wootton, they're all opening up about their experiences morning and experiences at this morning and it's not coming out well because of it. so i think this is a been a bit of a pandora's box moment that i don't know they're going to able to contain. if they to be able to contain. if they had potentially. but now this is all coming out. i'm not sure if more like this comes out how they're going to be able to control it any further . nigel control it any further. nigel pauley yeah, i agree. - f nigel pauley yeah, i agree. control it any further. nigel pauley yeah, i agree. i, i think ttts— pauley yeah, i agree. i, i think ttts nas— pauley yeah, i agree. i, i think this has gone way beyond phillip schofield and i think the bbc's struggled with , with the savile struggled with, with the savile and various other things that they've hidden up . this started they've hidden up. this started out as just a why have a presenter's fallen out and that's a fairly bland story. but philip schofield's career has

gonein philip schofield's career has gone in 16 days and it's symptomatic that the people named by ranj singh were also named by ranj singh were also named and were the four key itv executive . i won't name them for executive. i won't name them for legal reasons, but the heads are going to have to roll over this. this people knew what was going on.dan this people knew what was going on. dan wootton raised issues in 2020. um the investigation was said to be just rumours. but what ranj singh ranj singh is an nhs doctor, well respected and as ellie just said , it's what as ellie just said, it's what he's said. he's made allegations of a toxic culture of bullying and discriminate ation. and in the modern day workplace, he has named individuals who he is accused of bullying. he has said that he acted as a whistleblower and was not only ignored but was was not used anymore. and i think i don't see how they can say this. they can put two new presenters in. they can put you see, i still holly see, i still think holly willoughby damaged this . i

willoughby is damaged by this. i think damaged goods anyway think she's damaged goods anyway . and alison hammond in they can rebrand it . . and alison hammond in they can rebrand it. but my questions are going to keep on coming. schofield schofield is gone. however for another , more stuff however for another, more stuff has come out and this is going to go on and on once the show becomes the story. then in newspapers terms, great. the gb news great. we love it. but viewers are turning off. it's a car crash and yet it's losing viewers. well, this is bizarre because normally in about when bad people tune in to see bad things people tune in to see how bad is . yeah, people have how bad it is. yeah, people have been turning off, but not this time. toast. time. i think it's toast. vulin's itv this vulin's lucy is itv is this morning. toast at which is tneaktast. — morning. toast at which is breakfast. i— morning. toast at which is breakfast. i do- morning. toast at which is breakfast. i do i- g toast at which is breakfast. t:tit e morning. toast at which is breakfast. i do i think it's too toxic now and i and i think the mud is really sticking and as your guests have said, i actually think this is the tip of the iceberg. and you know, it's a shame. the format really worked back in 2022, the christmas show with holly and phil brought in 1.2 million viewers. and it has been going

down in recent weeks by 100, 200,000. and i think it's going to get worse because even with philip's departure , there are so philip's departure, there are so many questions about itv senior staff and how they handled the matter . and staff and how they handled the matter. and it just because they're kind of in purgatory at they're kind of in purgatory at the moment , those those whirling the moment, those those whirling questions just bring a nasty feel to it. it feels seedy . and feel to it. it feels seedy. and i think they need to completely redo it , call it i think they need to completely redo it, call it something else, maybe do the same sort of format. but but make it different maybe. yeah . have two different maybe. yeah. have two completely new presenters on but call it something different. i think the brand has gone toxic now, sadly. matthew stadlen wett— now, sadly. matthew stadlen well,ihaven't_ now, sadly. matthew stadlen well, ihaven't seen - : matthew stadlen well, haven't seen ranj singh well, i haven't seen ranj singh statement— well, i haven't seen ranj singh statement and— well, i haven't seen ranj singh statement and i— well, i haven't seen ranj singh statement and i have no idea atout— statement and i have no idea atout tne— statement and i have no idea about the facts— statement and i have no idea about the facts of— statement and i have no idea about the facts of what has or nasn-t— about the facts of what has or tasn-t gone— about the facts of what has or tasn-t gone on— about the facts of what has or hasn't gone on behind the scenes. we all- hasn't gone on behind the scenes. hasn't gone on behind the- scenes. we all know you know, nana that a show is much more than the presenter . so when i've than the presenter. so when i've been than the presenter. so when i've teen pnesenttng— than the presenter. so when i've been presenting shows- suit" so when i've been presenting shows on the nano— been presenting shows on the natto on— been presenting shows on the natto on tte— been presenting shows on the radio or the tv,— been presenting shows on the radio or the tv, it's so much atout— radio or the tv, it's so much atout tne— radio or the tv, it's so much about the production team. “cg about the production team. they wonk— about the production team. they work incredibly— about the production team. they work incredibly hard— about the production team. they work incredibly hard to make everything go well on air. whether that is tv, radio or

what have you. as far as what's happening on screen, i can assure you of one thing. every single show is bigger than the presenter. it's just like with toottatt— presenter. it's just like with football clubs— presenter. it's just like with football clubs or— it's just like with football clubs or rugby clubs. tveny— football clubs or rugby clubs. tveny stngte— football clubs or rugby clubs. every single sporting- football clubs or rugby clubs. every single sporting club- football clubs or rugby clubs. every single sporting club is bigger than their biggest star name. you think about newsnight , for example. yeah, i think it suffered when jeremy paxman left because he was extraordinary. perhaps a once in a generation broadcaster. but the show went on. you think about bbc sport coverage. do you think we're nunntng— coverage. do you think we're nunntng out— coverage. do you think we're running out of— coverage. do you think we're running out of time,- fg do you think we're running out of time, matthew so do running out of time, matthew so to you— running out of time, matthew so to you tntnk— running out of time, matthew so do you think they're going do do you think they're going to do you—90— do you think they're going to do you—go on- do you think they're going to do you—go on ttentl you think it will go on then? wtat— you think it will go on then? what-think?- you think it will go on then? what-think? - you think it will go on then? what-think? so- you think it will go on then? what think? (fig you think it will go on then?- what-think? so long as what do you think? so long as notttng— what do you think? so long as nothing gone on nothing untoward has gone on behind the scenes, that means that itv bosses strike the whole show out. and i suspect that if there has been anything that's gone on that will be sorted out. as far as the on screen talent is i don't think the is concerned, i don't think the departure phillip schofield departure of phillip schofield will affect one little bit. will affect it one little bit. yeah, might get a dip in yeah, you might get a dip in viewers, but not enough for them to the show. i think. how to scrap the show. i think. how hard is it to present a daytime

tv show? i don't watch daytime tv. i'm sometimes on it. but come on. i think most of us today here on this in the studio or on zoom or wherever we are, or on zoom or wherever we are, we or on zoom or wherever we are, we obviously have a stab we could obviously have a stab at and there'll be of at it and there'll be lots of people want to have go. people who want to have a go. i think the show will go on. you think the show will go on. you think show will go on think the show will go on. you think-show will go on andi think the show will go on and on. that bombshell. belinda tusy—nusni lucy, thank you very much. tonnen— lucy, thank you very much. former—mep. lucy, thank you very much.- former_mep nigel former brexit party mep nigel tautey— former brexit party mep nigel tautey .— former brexit party mep nigel pauley , showbiz— former brexit party mep nigel pauley , showbiz reporter pauley, showbiz reporter and tapes—.- pauley, showbiz reporter and. express_. matthew express newspapers. matthew statten— express newspapers. matthew stadlen, political commentator for stadlen, political commentator ton ant— stadlen, political commentator ton ant atso— stadlen, political commentator for and also the— stadlen, political commentator for and also the fabulous ellie ttttttps— for and also the fabulous ellie phillips, showbiz— for and also the fabulous ellie phillips, showbiz reporter. tnank— phillips, showbiz reporter. tnankyou— phillips, showbiz reporter. thank you so— phillips, showbiz reporter. thank you so much for joining ntgtt— thank you so much for joining me. right. well,— thank you so much for joining me. right. well, let's have a punk— me. right. well, let's have a gutsk took— me. right. well, let's have a gutsk took at— me. right. well, let's have a quick look at what you've been saytng— saying regarding phillip schofield,— saying regarding phillip- schofield, _ says, schofield, oliver. clive says, t-n — schofield, oliver. clive says, t-n atnatt— schofield, oliver. clive says, i'm afraid-is— schofield, oliver. clive says, i'm afraid-is a- schofield, oliver. clive says, i'm afraid is a story that i'm afraid this is a story that wttt— i'm afraid this is a story that wttt nnu— i'm afraid this is a story that will run-run.— i'm afraid this is a story that will run-run. the- i'm afraid this is a story that will run run. the reason will run and run. the reason tetng— will run and run. the reason tetng tnat— will run and run. the reason being that schofield, his being that schofield, with his sugany— being that schofield, with his sugary-n— being that schofield, with his sugany-. notttn- being that schofield, with his sugary , holier than thou sugary sweet, holier than thou attttute— sugary sweet, holier than thou attitude,-crossed- sugary sweet, holier than thou attitude, crossed a line in attitude, has crossed a line in tons— attitude, has crossed a line in tenns ot— attitude, has crossed a line in terms of ethical— attitude, has crossed a line in terms of ethical standards. you ton-t— terms of ethical standards. you ton-t evpest— terms of ethical standards. you don't expect people on such a ntgt— don't expect people on such a ntgn-tayttne- high profile daytime tv pnognanne— high profile daytime tv programme to be embroiled in sust— programme to be embroiled in susn seate— programme to be embroiled in susn steae .— programme to be embroiled in such sleaze , stanley says. this such sleaze, stanley says. this stony— such sleaze, stanley says. this stony ts— such sleaze, stanley says. this stony ts. says— such sleaze, stanley says. this story is, says more— such sleaze, stanley says. this story is, says more about the stowttz— story is, says more about the showbiz politics than it says atout— showbiz politics than it says atout-stss. - showbiz politics than it says about-else. it's- about anything else. it's a nunky— about anything else. it's a nunky wont— about anything else. it's a murky world with pushy people wno— murky world with pushy people wno-mat— murky world with pushy people who _that - rule - murky world with pushy people who _that - rule the l who think that they rule the wontt. — who think that they rule the world. what's—

who think that they rule the world. what's wrong with that? no, world. what's wrong with that? wo-pnetty— world. what's wrong with that? wo-pnetty tat. — world. what's wrong with that? no, pretty bad. no, it's no, it's pretty bad. no, it's not— no, it's pretty bad. no, it's not gutte— no, it's pretty bad. no, it's not quite like— no, it's pretty bad. no, it's not quite like that. here. no, it's pretty bad. no, it's not wouldn't that. here. no, it's pretty bad. no, it's not wouldn't thaaway here. no, it's pretty bad. no, it's not wouldn't tha away with. no, it's pretty bad. no, it's not wouldn't tha away with that you wouldn't get away with that gag, — you wouldn't get away with that tone—wow- you wouldn't get away with that tone—wow nany- here, keith says, how many peopte— here, keith says, how many people-affairs- here, keith says, how many people-affairs ?- here, keith says, how many people affairs ? why is this people have affairs? why is this tnont— people have affairs? why is this mom—att- front page news with all the pnottens— front page news with all the problems we've— front page news with all the problems we've got going on? that— problems we've got going on? that ts— problems we've got going on? that tslgoot— problems we've got going on? that is good point. but anyway that is a good point. but anyway .youne— that is a good point. but anyway . you wttn— that is a good point. but anyway . y wttn-t-n— that is a good point. but anyway , you're with i'm nana akua. , you're with me. i'm nana akua. ttts—wett- , you're with me. i'm nana akua. ttts—we-tt te- this is gb news. we'll be ttssusstng— this is gb news. we'll be discussing it— this is gb news. we'll be discussing it-a- this is gb news. we'll be- discussing it-a moment. this is gb news. we'll be- discasking it-a moment. this is gb news. we'll be discasking can a moment. this is gb news. we'll be discasking can this a moment. this is gb news. we'll be disc asking can this morning nt. i'm asking can this morning sunvtve— i'm asking can this morning survive—scandal? survive schofield's scandal? you tetn— survive schofield's scandal? you neon-tnougnts— survive schofield's scandal? you hear thoughts panel, hear the thoughts of my panel, stntsttne— hear the thoughts of my panel, christine—dannyl christine hamilton and danny ketty— christine hamilton and danny ketty-tets- christine hamilton and danny ketty-tets get- christine hamilton and danny kelly. let's get your kelly. but first, let's get your tatest— kelly. but first, let's get your tatest news— kelly. but first, let's get your latest news headlines . thank latest news headlines. thank you,— latest news headlines. thank you. want — latest news headlines. thank you. wana. tm— latest news headlines. thank you, nana. it]: latest news headlines. thank you, nana. 3tit3 you, nana. i'm rory smith. well, as you've been hearing, itv has denied that this morning is under review following reports the show could be axed . sources the show could be axed. sources have told gb news that bosses have told gb news that bosses have just seven days to save the programme following the phillip schofield affair . staff members schofield affair. staff members who raised concerns about the tv presenter's actions say executives need to prove they're properly addressing the issue . properly addressing the issue. the broadcaster has confirmed the show will air tomorrow . on a the show will air tomorrow. on a

five year old girl has died following a house fire in pembrokeshire. despite the efforts of emergency services . efforts of emergency services. alicia salisbury passed away at the scene of the blaze in the ponty glacier area last night. her family, who described her as a beautiful daughter and sister, are being supported by specialist officers . the force specialist officers. the force says it's working to establish the cause . the government is the cause. the government is launching an ad campaign to stop people from crossing the channel the advert said. to be circulated in albania next week, will warn people they face being detained and removed if they make the journey . critics have make the journey. critics have already branded it as pointless, saying it won't deter them. while a record number of people made the crossing in small boats last year and more than 6000 have been intercepted so far this year. well, meanwhile , this year. well, meanwhile, labour says it would impose time limits on hiring overseas workers in a bid to kerb migration. the shadow home secretary, yvette cooper , has secretary, yvette cooper, has told the sunday telegraph it

would serve as an incentive to train british workers. she also suggested the party would ask the migration advisory committee for appropriate timescales for importing . labour as the latest importing. labour as the latest and you can get more on all of those stories by visiting our website. that is gb news .com . website. that is gb news .com. still to come , travel chaos at still to come, travel chaos at the airports as electronic passport gates stopped working, leaving passengers feeling frustrated , dated and then for frustrated, dated and then for the great british debate, which is coming up next. can this nonntng— is coming up next. can this morning survive— is coming up next. can this morning survive the- tititv g i. “nix. can this morning survive the schofield ssantat—

and waiting. they're itching to go and it's a proper little family. gb news is the people's snannet— family. gb news is the people's stannet. tts— family. gb news is the people's stannet. tt-s .— family. gb news is the people's channel. it's . the— 3 gb news is the people's channel. it's . the good channel. it's. the good afternoon _ channel. it's. the good afternoon. - channel. it's. the good afternoon . channel. it's. the good afternoon. new? channel. it's. the good- afternoon . i'm nana akua. this afternoon. i'm nana akua. this is gb news on tv , online and on is gb news on tv, online and on digital radio. it's time now for our great british debate this houn our great british debate this hour. i'm asking, can this hour. and i'm asking, can this morning survive the sky field scandal? sources have told scandal? itv sources have told gb dup news that gb news bosses dup news that bosses have just seven days to save. this morning following the fallout surrounding phillip schofield . but the broadcaster schofield. but the broadcaster has said that the programme will be back tomorrow at the usual time and confirmed it has time and confirmed that it has no to axe show. now no plans to axe the show. now this all comes as it was revealed in the mail on sunday that schofield met the young

runner he just 15, an runner when he was just 15, an excuse me, and this comes as his former co—host, holly willoughby , said that his admission was very hurtful and claimed that schofield had lied when previously asked about their relationship . following relationship. following all these can this these revelations, can this morning continue to stay on air or is the brand name tainted forever, save for the great british debate this hour, i'm asking, morning survive asking, can this morning survive the schofield scandal? well, let's see what my panel make of that. joined author and that. i'm joined by author and broadcaster christine hamilton and and and as a broadcaster and journalist danny kelly. we'll and as a broadcaster and journwith danny kelly. we'll and as a broadcaster and journwith you, |y kelly. we'll and as a broadcaster and journwith you, danny'. we'll and as a broadcaster and journwith you, danny . liars, start with you, danny. liars, liars have some fires. - tit3“ liars, liars have some fires. ttit start with you, danny. liars, liars have some fires. do you know— liars have some fires. do you know wtat— liars have some fires. do you know wtat t— liars have some fires. do you know what i first of all, i feel desperately sorry for mrs. schofield, the mother. the mother , the mother-a l schofield, the mother. the. mother , the mother-a and schofield, the mother. the- mother , the mother-a and the mother, the mother of a and the notttn— mother, the mother of a and the note ot— mother, the mother of a and the mother of what— mother, the mother of a and the mother of what would you mean the mother of what would you mean to notttn— mother of what would you mean to note ot— mother of what would you mean the mother of phillip schofield? teat.— the mother of phillip schofield? teat. tne— the mother of phillip schofield? yeah, the mother? yeah,- the mother of phillip schofield? / 7 yeah, the yeah, the mother? yeah, the mother. phillip— fl 7 yeah, the mother phillip schofield. the mother of phillip schofield. the notttn— mother of phillip schofield. the notnen—ant- mother of phillip schofield. the mother—and now mother of a convicted. and now the mother of a convicted. and now to notttn— mother of a convicted. and now to note ot— mother of a convicted. and now the mother of well, this fella, tnttttp — the mother of well, this fella, phillip schofield _ the mother of well, this fella, phillip schofield . desperately phillip schofield. i desperately feel phillip schofield. i desperately test sonny— phillip schofield. i desperately test sonny ton— phillip schofield. i desperately feel sorry for her.— phillip schofield. i desperately feel sorry for her. i would like . ttnotty— feel sorry for her. i would like . timothy schofield the irony to neteas— . timothy schofield the irony to release a statement saying as far release a statement saying as tan as— release a statement saying as tan as t— release a statement saying as tan as t an— release a statement saying as far as i am concerned, i no

tongen— far as i am concerned, i no tongen tave— far as i am concerned, i no tongen have a— far as i am concerned, i no longer have a brother. do you remember what? that's what ttttttp— remember what? that's what tnttttp ttt— remember what? that's what phillip did to— remember what? that's what phillip did to timothy, which appatttng— phillip did to timothy, which appatttng .— phillip did to timothy, which was appalling . is future. was appalling. is the future. is tnont— was appalling. is the future. is then a— was appalling. is the future. is there a future— was appalling. is the future. is there a future for— was appalling. is the future. is there a future for this show? tut— there a future for this show? tut you— there a future for this show? put you ntgtt— there a future for this show? but you might feel that way atout— but you might feel that way atout-on— but you might feel that way atout-on a- but you might feel that way about or a relative but you might feel that way. about-or a relative of about a brother or a relative of youns— about a brother or a relative of youns wno— about a brother or a relative of youns wno tas— about a brother or a relative of yours who has been accused of going—t— yours who has been accused of gotng—t mean- yours who has been accused of gotng—t t-m| going to prison. i mean, i'm tutt— going to prison. i mean, i'm just might that just saying, you might feel that way. but to come out and way. yes. but to come out and atventtse— way. yes. but to come out and atventtse tt. — way. yes. but to come out and advertise it. but— way. yes. but to come out and advertise it. but hang- yes. but to come out and advertise it. “it“; advertise it. but hang on. wavtng— advertise it. but hang on. having raised— advertise it. but hang on. having raised that,- advertise it. but hang on. having raised that, i- advertise it. “it“; having raised that, i think to sonean—t- having raised that, i think to sonean—t sayl come out publicly and say, tnat-s— come out publicly and say, tnat-s tne— come out publicly and say, that's the brother. yes. not ttttttp— that's the brother. yes. not tnttttp to— that's the brother. yes. not phillip to come— that's the brother. yes. not phillip to come and say i no phillip to come out and say i no tongen— phillip to come out and say i no tongen nave— phillip to come out and say i no tongen have a— phillip to come out and say i no longer have a brother that was to-tts— longer have a brother that was to-his career.— longer have a brother that was to his career. correct. and to save his career. correct. and i to save his career. correct. and t-tt— to save his career. correct. and t-tt was— to save his career. correct. and t-tt an— to save his career. correct. and i it was an appalling i thought it was an appalling tttng— i thought it was an appalling tttng-te— i thought it was an appalling tntng-we you- i thought it was an appalling thing he you know, blood thing to say. he you know, blood snoutt— thing to say. he you know, blood should .thicker_ thing to say. he you know, blood should thicker than water. should be thicker than water. tut— should be thicker than water. tut even— should be thicker than water. tut tt— should be thicker than water. but even if you— should be thicker than water. but even if you felt— should be thicker than water. but even if you felt-way,l but even if you felt that way, perhaps wouldn't advertise, perhaps you wouldn't advertise, as christine right. perhaps you wouldn't advertise, athink christine right. perhaps you wouldn't advertise, athink did stine right. perhaps you wouldn't advertise, athink did damage'ight. perhaps you wouldn't advertise, athink did damage hist. i think he did damage his. career.-he-trying i think he did damage his- career. _he-trying to career. i think he was trying to ttgtt. — career. i think he was trying to fight. horrible. _ career. i think he was trying to fight. horrible. i'm- career. i think he was trying to fight. horrible. i'm just saying, shouldn't work saying, yeah, you shouldn't work long no, you're right. long publicly. no, you're right. anyway shows how anyway, it just shows you how nasty— anyway, it just shows you how nasty-teta— anyway, it just shows you how nasty-fella is.— anyway, it just shows you how nasty-fella is. he- anyway, it just shows you how nasty fella is. he looks nasty the fella is. he looks vtnttsttve— nasty the fella is. he looks vindictive, - little . nasty the fella is. he looks vindictive, little okay, vindictive, selfish little okay, setttng— vindictive, selfish little okay, tetttng task— vindictive, selfish little okay, getting back to— vindictive, selfish little okay, getting back to this. no, he's not— getting back to this. no, he's not a. — getting back to this. no, he's not a. t— getting back to this. no, he's not a. ? that's— getting back to this. no, he's not a. ? that's not- getting back to this. no, he's not a. 7 g not a. ? that's not this morning . first all, i don't . well, first of all, i don't think you'd use the word anymore. that's probably not allowed. and also. yeah, i'll take selfish, but take vindictive and selfish, but the that back. all right. the i take that back. all right. he is quite tall. is he

he is. he is quite tall. is he quite tall? cross is very short. no, quite tall? cross is very short. to. ne-s— quite tall? cross is very short. to. ne-s tatten— quite tall? cross is very short. no, he's taller than _ quite tall? cross is very short. no, he's taller than me.- quite tall? ttzi;3 no, he's taller than me. is it? okay.— no, he's taller than me. is it? okay. so— no, he's taller than me. is it? okay. soltnene— no, he's taller than me. is it? okay, so .there-i'm. okay, so is there a and i'm quite tall. is there a future for-morning?- quite tall. is there a future for-morning? i- c. is there a future for morning? i think there for this morning? i think there is for this morning? i think there ts—nomtngl is a future for this morning. wnetnen— is a future for this morning. whether-with- is a future for this morning. whether with holly whether it's with holly wtttougnty— whether it's with holly willoughby i don't whether it's with holly- willoughby-i don't know willoughby or not. i don't know , because she's— willoughby or not. i don't know , because she's now, think , because she's now, i think potenttatty— , because she's now, i think potentially she's— , because she's now, i think potentially she's damaged goods . i potentially she's damaged goods . t tntnk— potentially she's damaged goods . t tntnk t— potentially she's damaged goods . i think i really— potentially she's damaged goods . i think i really do. you know, that— . i think i really do. you know, tnat guy-s— . i think i really do. you know, that guy's coming— . i think i really do. you know, that guy's coming back to haunt ten. — that guy's coming back to haunt pen on.— that guy's coming back to haunt pen on. yes.— that guy's coming back to haunt her. oh, yes. these— that guy's coming back to haunt her. oh, yes. these photographs that guy's coming back to haunt her. (apparentlytse photographs that guy's coming back to haunt her. (apparentlytse pishe graphs , she apparently said she knew notttng—antl nothing about this lad. and tnene— nothing about this lad. and that ane— nothing about this lad. and there are photographs the there are photographs on the tntennet— there are photographs on the internet three— there are photographs on the internet three years of internet three years ago of navtng—wttnl having a photograph with phillip ssnottett—. - having a photograph with phillip schofield_. but- having a photograph with phillipi schofield_. but that schofield and the lad. but that meant— schofield and the lad. but that doesn't anything. it doesn't mean anything. it doesn't mean anything. it doesn't were having doesn't mean they were having an attatn. — doesn't mean they were having an attatn. _tm— doesn't mean they were having an affair.-can be. we've. affair. no, you can be. we've teen— affair. no, you can be. we've been photographed- affair. \tit tit?“ we've been photographed together. does that been photographed together. does mat-two— been photographed together. does tnat-two ane— been photographed together. does that two are together? that mean you two are together? wett. — that mean you two are together? wett. wett— that mean you two are together? well. well yeah. but— that mean you two are together? well. well yeah. but the- well. well yeah. but the rumours. the— will �*ftt�*tzigl gilt?" but the rumours. the rumours , the rumours. the rumours, the rumours. are you- rumours. the rumours, the rumours. ' ”ti: 3503" rumours. the rumours, the rumours. ' ”ti: 35etzit" rumours. are you fryston the rumours. are you fryston the rumours associated with that photograph been the photograph have been on the internet for three years. are we honestly holly honestly saying the holly wtttougnty— honestly saying the holly- willoughby—them? willoughby never read them? wett— willoughby never read them? wett .. — willoughby never read them? well, i. maybe— willoughby never read them? well, i. itvitg vitii; well, i. maybe these are rumours. and as they said at well, i. maybe these are rum that and as they said at well, i. maybe these are rum that theseis they said at well, i. maybe these are rum that these werey said at well, i. maybe these are rum that these were rumours and itv, that these were rumours and the of them denied it. so the two of them denied it. so rhiannon the case, rhiannon, if that was the case, you'd take it on face you'd have to take it on face value. but then there are other people forward saying people coming forward saying that common knowledge. people coming forward saying tha'exactly. :ommon knowledge. people coming forward saying tha' exactly. :ommon like wledge. so. exactly. it feels like there's believe in it. i

there's a i believe in it. i believe people like .. e i believe people like eamonn hotnes— believe people like eamonn holmes-worked- believe people like eamonn holmes-worked for holmes, who's worked there for yeans— holmes, who's worked there for yeans .— holmes, who's worked there for yeans . ant— holmes, who's worked there for yeans . ant te-s— holmes, who's worked there for years , and he's now saying that years, and he's now saying that wtnston— years, and he's now saying that winston churchill,— years, and he's now saying that winston churchill, a great saytng— winston churchill, a great saytng tnon— winston churchill, a great saying from churchill, was in tentat— saying from churchill, was in defeat,_victory,l defeat, defiance in victory, nagnantntty— defeat, defiance in victory, nagnantntty .— defeat, defiance in victory, magnanimity , motty. and there is magnanimity, motty. and there is no nagnantntty— magnanimity, motty. and there is no magnanimity being shown to ttttttp— no magnanimity being shown to tnttttp-tt— no magnanimity being shown to ttttttp-tt rust- no magnanimity being shown to phillip it just shows phillip schofield. it just shows now— phillip schofield. it just shows how natet— phillip schofield. it just shows how hated and— phillip schofield. it just shows how hated and loathed he is. and peopte— how hated and loathed he is. and peopte now— how hated and loathed he is. and people now reading— how hated and loathed he is. and people now reading and seeing tanonn— people now reading and seeing eamonn holmes— people now reading and seeing eamonn holmes say, look , the itv eamonn holmes say, look, the itv tosses— eamonn holmes say, look, the itv tosses ttey— eamonn holmes say, look, the itv bosses, they need— eamonn holmes say, look, the itv bosses, they need to— eamonn holmes say, look, the itv bosses, they need to have a look in bosses, they need to have a look tn tne— bosses, they need to have a look tn tne ntnnon— bosses, they need to have a look in the mirror. there— bosses, they need to have a look in the mirror. there may be enattens. — in the mirror. there may be enablers. well,- in the mirror. there may be enablers. �*ftt�*tzigl in the mirror. there may be enablers. enrica in the mirror. there may be enablers. well, you know, but then that's not really fair to accuse them of enabling something we don't know something because we don't know the story. so at the the full story. so but at the end the fact is that end of the day, the fact is that the situation, the environment end of the day, the fact is that the si seems, the environment end of the day, the fact is that the si seems a:he environment end of the day, the fact is that the si seems a little vironment end of the day, the fact is that the si seems a little virotoxic.t there seems a little bit toxic. if many people were rumouring if so many people were rumouring about this. and apparently they did, we did, though apparently we continually whether there continually asked whether there was an affair. but then would you get somebody confessing an affair? probably well, would you not-onty— affair? probably well, would you not-onty-ttet- affair? probably well, would you not-only-lied to- not not only has he lied to evenytoty— not not only has he lied to evenytotylto- not not only has he lied to everybody, to his wife. and everybody, lied to his wife. and youne— everybody, lied to his wife. and you-ne-tts— everybody, lied to his wife. and you-ne-tts tne- everybody, lied to his wife. and you're-it's the first- you're so right. it's the first tne— you're so right. it's the first time anybody's_ you're so right. it's the first time anybody's mentioned that, to—nts- time anybody's mentioned that, to—nts poonl to my knowledge, is his poor notttn— to my knowledge, is his poor mother-still- to my knowledge, is his poorj mother-still-i mother. if she's still alive. i wett— mother. if she's still alive. i mean. well,-was- mother. if she's still alive. i mean. well, was warmer with mean. well, she was warmer with ttn— mean. well, she was warmer with ttn-wttn— mean. well, she was warmer with him _with-mother. mean. well, she was warmer with himother with mother mean. well, she was warmer with himother was mother mean. well, she was warmer with himother was mot i er the other day. was he? oh, i mean, honestly,— the other day. was he? oh, i mean, honestly, what she's had

to put— mean, honestly, what she's had to put-wttt— mean, honestly, what she's had to put-with, but— mean, honestly, what she's had to put with, but also to ask to put up with, but also to ask ayoung— to put up with, but also to ask a young a— to put up with, but also to ask a young a younger person who yove— a young a younger person who youve-amat- a young a younger person who you've-affair with- you've had an affair with pentestty— you've had an affair with pentestty-.- you've had an affair with perfectly-. he- you've had an affair with perfectly . he was you've had an affair with perfectly-. he was 18. perfectly legal. he was over18. tut— perfectly legal. he was over18. tut-tntn— perfectly legal. he was over18. tut-ttem to— perfectly legal. he was over18. but-them to lie- perfectly legal. he was over 18. but them to lie through but to ask them to lie through tnetn— but to ask them to lie through tnetn-ttv— but to ask them to lie through tnetn-ttv ts— but to ask them to lie through their-itv is quite- but to ask them to lie through their itv is quite a their teeth to itv is quite a big— their teeth to itv is quite a ttg tnat— their teeth to itv is quite a big that whether you ask them to lie big that whether you ask them to tte on— big that whether you ask them to lie or whether— big that whether you ask them to lie or whether they— big that whether you ask them to lie or whether they both decided to pre,— lie or whether they both decided to pre, ttey— lie or whether they both decided to lie, they might— lie or whether they both decided to lie, they might have both. wett— to lie, they might have both. wett tttttp— to lie, they might have both. well, philip phillips, the powemut— well, philip phillips, the powerful-he?l well, philip phillips, the. powerful-he? but well, philip phillips, the- powerful-he? but he powerful one, isn't he? but he ttnst—sags- powerful one, isn't he? but he. ttnst—sagslnean first you mentioned qg8. i mean -was— first you mentioned qg8. i mean -was-ne— first you mentioned qg8. i mean -was-he ttnst- first you mentioned qg8. i mean ,-was-he first that- , that was when he first that was so appalling— , that was when he first that was so appalling, , that was when he first that was so appalling , the way they was so appalling, the way they nanttet— was so appalling, the way they nanttet sags— was so appalling, the way they handled qg8 instead saying, handled qg8 instead of saying, yest— handled qg8 instead of saying, vts-ttt— handled qg8 instead of saying, vts-ttt. ant— handled qg8 instead of saying, yes,.did. and .was- handled qg8 instead of saying, yes, did. and was wrong, i yes, we did. and it was wrong, i wtsn— yes, we did. and it was wrong, i wtsn we— yes, we did. and it was wrong, i wish we hadn't— yes, we did. and it was wrong, i wish we hadn't done it. instead, we sne— wish we hadn't done it. instead, we ste satt— wish we hadn't done it. instead, we she said, oh,— wish we hadn't done it. instead, we she said, oh, we— wish we hadn't done it. instead, we she said, oh, we did it on tenan— we she said, oh, we did it on tenattlatt— we she said, oh, we did it on behalf-all the— we she said, oh, we did it on behalf all the viewers who behalf of all the viewers who souttn-t. — couldn't. i mean, you know, tavtt— couldn't. i mean, you know, pant-tan.- couldn't. i mean, you know, tavtt-san. sa- couldn't. i mean, you know, david-can. q andi couldn't. i mean, you know,- david-can. q and theresa david beckham can. q and theresa mav— david beckham can. q and theresa way-att— david beckham can. q and theresa way-aat ketty. — david beckham can. q and theresa way-aat ketty. t- david beckham can. q and theresa may a&e kelly. t: t: .. e may can. q a&e kelly. i didn't neattse— may can. q a&e kelly. i didn't neattse ne— may can. q a&e kelly. i didn't realise he was so i've realise he was so tall. i've learned something today. well, you you go. he's you have, so there you go. he's not— you have, so there you go. he's not anyway.— you have, so there you go. he's not anyway. to — you have, so there you go. he's not anyway, to answer the atsotute— not anyway, to answer the absolute _very,. not anyway, to answer the. absolute _very, very absolute question very, very tntetty— briefly, because i can tell you agatnst— briefly, because i can tell youi agatnst—tntnk against the clock, i don't think ttts— against the clock, i don't thinki ttts—t this morning can continue and i sentatnty— this morning can continue and i sentatnty ton-t— this morning can continue and i certainly don't think holly can sonttnue— certainly don't think holly can continue morning . continue on this morning. tney-ve— continue on this morning. tney-ve got— continue on this morning. tney-ve got to— continue on this morning. they've got to have- continue on this morning. they've got to have a- continue on this morning. they've got to have a completely clean clean get rid clean break, clean show, get rid of start again. of all of them, start again. right. show is nothing right. this show is nothing wtttout— right. this show is nothing without-and- right. this show is nothing without and your views. right. this show is nothing withcwelcome ici your views. right. this show is nothing withcwelcome somer views. right. this show is nothing withcwelcome some ofiews. right. this show is nothing withcwelcome some of our. right. this show is nothing withcwelcome some of our great let's welcome some of our great tntttst—tnetn- british voices. this is their opponuntty— british voices. this is their- oppontuntty—snow opportunity to be on the show ant— opportunity to be on the show ant-us— opportunity to be on the show ant-us wtat— opportunity to be on the show and-us what they- opportunity to be on the show and us what they really

and tell us what they really tntnk— and tell us what they really tttnk-toptss- and tell us what they really think topics we're think about the topics we're ttssusstng— think about the topics we're ttssussyou— think about the topics we're discussyou, sir.— think about the topics we're discussyou, sir. the others are two of you, sir. the others are in two of you, sir. the others are tn-sunsntne— two of you, sir. the others arei in-sunshine-things two of you, sir. the others are. in - sunshine _things , in the sunshine cheeky things, agap— in the sunshine cheeky things, ntgntt ttts— in the sunshine cheeky things, right? let's start— in the sunshine cheeky things, right? let's start with miranda ttsnantson— right? let's start with miranda richardson northamptonshire richardson from northam ptonshire richardson from northamptonshire .—ttsnantson- . not the miranda richardson, but . not the miranda richardson, tut—ml but miranda richardson in northamptonshire. miranda what do northamptonshire. miranda what to you— northamptonshire. miranda what to you tntnk— northamptonshire. miranda what to you tntnkt — northamptonshire. miranda what do you think ? .. tritium do you think? afternoon, nana. i think one of the fundamental things is whatever happens, he has continually lied to all those people close around him. you know, to portray such nantsntp— you know, to portray such hardship with— you know, to portray such hardship with holly when he came out as— hardship with holly when he came out as gay— hardship with holly when he came out as gay .— hardship with holly when he came out as gay . you— hardship with holly when he came out as gay , you know, she sat out as gay, you know, she sat tnene— out as gay, you know, she sat tnene wttt— out as gay, you know, she sat there with her— out as gay, you know, she sat there with her friend , with her there with her friend, with her test— there with her friend, with her test tntent— there with her friend, with her best friend, support, support , best friend, support, support, suppont— best friend, support, support, suppont. ttts— best friend, support, support, support. this outpouring of tove. — support. this outpouring of tove. ant— support. this outpouring of love. and he— support. this outpouring of love. and he quite- support. this outpouring of love. ' t: c. i love. and he quite clearly continued to deny any other kind of relationship that must feel so hurtful . i of relationship that must feel so hurtful. i mean, to his wife, to his mother , all of that. but to his mother, all of that. but to his mother, all of that. but to continue to deny that- to continue to deny that purely. ant— to continue to deny that purely. ant t— to continue to deny that purely. ant t tntnk— to continue to deny that purely. and i think christine— to continue to deny that purely. and i think christine used- to continue to deny that purely. and i think christine used the word, you know, he's powerful. that's the problem . you kind of that's the problem. you kind of ot— that's the problem. you kind of some of them really believe that they're beyond everything , that they're beyond everything, that they're beyond everything, that they're beyond everything, that they're beyond touching. they're

catching out. so you can't do that. that's not on. so yes or no . snoutt— that. that's not on. so yes or no . snoutt tt— that's not on. so yes or no , should it continue, miranda, no, should it continue, miranda, ttts— no, should it continue, miranda, ttts nonntng— no, should it continue, miranda, ttts nonntng .— no, should it continue, miranda, this morning , the— no, should it continue, miranda, this morning , the program, the this morning, the program, the nonnat— this morning, the program, the tonnat .— this morning, the program, the tonnat . tne— this morning, the program, the format , the people like, the format, the people like, the nonnat— format, the people like, the tonnat ot— format, the people like, the format of the— format, the people like, the format of the program. it's gneat.— format of the program. it's gneat. wot— format of the program. it's great. not not— format of the program. it's great. not not with the team as evtsttng— great. not not with the team as evtsttng. not— great. not not with the team as existing, not not— great. not not with the team as existing, not not with phil and tony.— existing, not not with phil and totty. not— existing, not not with phil and holly, not with— existing, not not with phil and holly, not with holly, even totty— holly, not with holly, even totty. — holly, not with holly, even holly. david— holly, not with holly, even holly. j t: j t: holly, not with holly, even- holly. david bohm. david bohm . holly. david bohm. david bohm. what do you think? hello nana. actually, i must say, i have never watched— actually, i must say, i have never watched this morning, so i nave— never watched this morning, so i navelttea— never watched this morning, so i navelttea . — never watched this morning, so i have.idea . yeah,- never watched this morning, so i have-idea . yeah, but- never watched this morning, so i have idea . fl t:tit have no idea. yeah, but i do remember over the they've remember over the years they've been scandal . on been scandal after scandal. on this morning we had fred,- p on this morning we had fred, the weatnennan— this morning we had fred, the weatherman at— this morning we had fred, the weatherman at and they carried on. weatherman at and they carried tut— weatherman at and they carried tut t— weatherman at and they carried on. but i think— weatherman at and they carried on. but i think the— weatherman at and they carried on. but i think the whole format pnotatty— on. but i think the whole format pnotatty now— on. but i think the whole format probably now needs to change tsaus— probably now needs to change tsaus ttey— probably now needs to change because they have to say draw a ttne— because they have to say draw a ttne unten— because they have to say draw a ttne unten tt— because they have to say draw a line under it. holly— because they have to say draw a line under it. holly i think soutt— line under it. holly i think could come— line under it. holly i think could come back under a new unten— could come back under a new unten a— could come back under a new under a new program because she seems untouchable— under a new program because she seems untouchable at the moment. a veny— seems untouchable at the moment. a veny powemut— seems untouchable at the moment. a very powerful figure within entertainment— a very powerful figure within entertainment .— a very powerful figure within entertainment . and i think she entertainment. and i think she woutt— entertainment. and i think she woutt sone— entertainment. and i think she would come out— entertainment. and i think she would come out of it. but i tntnk— would come out of it. but i tntnk ttey— would come out of it. but i think they have— would come out of it. but i think they have to say enough wttt— think they have to say enough will rebranding_ think they have to say enough will rebranding in september. it's will rebranding in september. tt-s no— will rebranding in september. tt-s no tongen— will rebranding in september. it's no longer this morning . it's no longer this morning. stutt— it's no longer this morning. soutt te— it's no longer this morning. could be yesterday or yesterday . vestentay. — could be yesterday or yesterday

. yesterday. yesterday's- could be yesterday or yesterday /: fl: . yesterday. yesterday's news. i love it yesterday. thank you very much, david. david bohm and also miranda richardson . thank also miranda richardson. thank you very much for joining me. lovely to talk to you both. well, what do you think? let's move on another story move on to another story that caught travellers caught my eye. travellers have had their journeys disrupted yesterday electronic yesterday when the electronic passport stopped working passport gate stopped working at uk . their passengers uk airports. their passengers described the situation as utter chaos complete joke . also chaos and a complete joke. also over the bank holiday, british airways flights cancelled airways flights were cancelled due glitch in due to a technical glitch in their lengthy queues their systems and lengthy queues formed the port of dover. formed at the port of dover. does anything work in this country? the one in country? although the one in dover actually of dover was actually the fault of the french. go you, the french. let's go to you, danny. you think? does danny. what do you think? does anything country danny. what do you think? does anything-country work- anything in this country work pnopentya— anything in this country work pnopentyt tts— anything in this country work properly? it's not there's properly? it's not when there's a—know- properly? it's not when there's a—know ttatl properly? it's not when there's a _ know that for a heat wave. we know that for t— a heat wave. we know that for sure. i was listening to the natto.— sure. i was listening to the radio. people— sure. i was listening to the radio. people were stuck in the queue—ts- queue for hours. that is tntngtng— queue for hours. that is bringing-the- queue for hours. that is bringing the best in in the bringing out the best in in the tntttst— bringing out the best in in the british spirit,— bringing out the best in in the british spirit, except for when appanentty— british spirit, except for when apparently there _ british spirit, except for when apparently there was people ttgnttng. — apparently there was peoplei fighting. _sharing fighting. people were sharing totttes— fighting. people were sharing totttes ot— fighting. people were sharing bottles of water. _ fighting. people were sharing bottles of water. anything bottles of water. does anything wonk— bottles of water. does anything wonk tn— bottles of water. does anything wonk tn ttts— bottles of water. does anything work in this country? yes. we're a-sountny. — work in this country? yes. we're a-sountny. tut- work in this country? yes. we're a country. but things a fabulous country. but things ttke—snow- a fabulous country. but things like—show how. a fabulous country. but things. like—show how now like just goes to show how now if like just goes to show how now tt sonetttng— like just goes to show how now if something, you— like just goes to show how now if something, you know, i is the next— if something, you know, i is the next ttg— if something, you know, i is the next ttg tttng— if something, you know, i is the next big thing just— if something, you know, i is the next big thing just goes to show

if next big thing just goes to show tt sonetttng— next big thing just goes to show if something stops, if something is small stops, tttn— if something is small stops, tnen tte— if something is small stops, then the effect— if something is small stops, then the effect it can have on peopte.— then the effect it can have on people. christine �*ftt�*tzigl .. t:i;ti.t:i; people. christine well, my niece was in the british was caught in the british airways was at airways thing. she was at heathrow trying to get heathrow airport trying to get to she lives in new york. to jfk. she lives in new york. her had gone through and her luggage had gone through and suddenly gets suddenly british she gets a thing her sorry, your thing on her phone. sorry, your flight's so i mean, flight's cancelled. so i mean, what do you do? she managed to get reckons she had get what she reckons was she had to rush to another terminal. she got about last seat on a got one about the last seat on a virgin airways economy , and she virgin airways economy, and she was travelling for work. so she had been going british had been going by british airways business. so she ended up in virgin economy in the middle it was quite middle seat. so it was quite a and she still still hasn't got her luggage. but danny's right. we rely in the good old days. you know, you walked up and you showed passport showed a person your passport and a person checked you and this, that and the other. now the whole thing is so automated. and little. one little if a and one little. one little if a ttttte— and one little. one little if a little microchip _but. and one little. one little if a little microchip-but iti little microchip fails. but it tt— little microchip fails. but it tt wa— little microchip fails. but it was it was lord _ little microchip fails. but it was it was lord curzon who said that nobody but a fool leaves the bounds of their estate on a bank holiday. but most people aren't enough aren't fortunate enough. enough to estate. so of course to have an estate. so of course they go although

they want to go off. although with weather , why bother? with this weather, why bother? why bother? well, it's time why bother? yes. well, it's time now—ttts- why bother? yes. well, it's timei now—this sunday, why bother? yes. well, it's time novtpanel this sunday, why bother? yes. well, it's time novtpanel going this sunday, why bother? yes. well, it's time novtpanel going to s sunday, why bother? yes. well, it's time novtpanel going to discuss y, my panel are going to discuss the my panel are going to discuss tne-tnn— my panel are going to discuss the _that-their. the stories that caught their eye. — the stories that caught their eve- _ttv- the stories that caught their eye. _ty autnonl the stories that caught their. eye. _by author and eye. i'm joined by author and broadcaster— eye. i'm joined by author and broadcaster hamilton eye. i'm joined by author and broa also ter hamilton eye. i'm joined by author and broaalso broadcaster hamilton and also broadcaster and rounnattst— and also broadcaster and journalist kelly. i'm journalist danny kelly. i'm going— journalist danny kelly. i'm gong-wttt- journalist danny kelly. i'm- going-with-danny going to start with you, danny ketty. — going to start with you, danny ketty. to— going to start with you, danny ketty. to you— going to start with you, danny kelly. do you know- going to start with you, danny kelly. jtit 57 kelly. do you know what this is? this great story because this is a great story because miserable know it miserable countries know what it is. we just live in is. we must just live in a miserable because the miserable world because the headune headline is not the happiest countries. world's 20 countries. it's the world's 20 least miserable countries . so least miserable countries. so it's not that they're happy. it's just that they're least miserable and it's based on lots of things like wealth, employment , of things like wealth, employment, education, things. top one. okay, switzerland is the least miserable . well, maybe the least miserable. well, maybe they're dead miserable, but they're dead miserable, but they're the least miserable. ireland is number three. okay. yeah. where are we? okay. 28. and we're five behind the united states at 23. so we are the 28th, least 28th. the yanks are the 23rd. we're the least 28th least are the french in that? the french, i hear you ask . the french, i hear you ask. they're not in there. we knew they more visible. _ they're not in there. we knew they more visible. we- they're not in there. we knew they more visible. we just don't know how miserable. christine .

know how miserable. christine. well, i've got my story is that rishi sunak has announced the first ever free, first free speech tsar who is a cambridge professor who is task will be to wage the war on woke at last. oh my goodness . whether anything my goodness. whether anything will happen. he's going to be the director for freedom of speech and academic freedom and he is going to every time a university tries to cancel anybody or censor anybody, he is going to have the power to go in and investigate . i mean, at and investigate. i mean, at last, as long as he's got lots of power and he's allowed to use it, we are fighting back. but you think that's what universities for free? universities were for, for free? well, that's the point, aren't tneyt— well, that's the point, aren't tteyt wean— well, that's the point, aren't they? yeah well,— well, that's the point, aren't they? yeah well, let's go over to one to my supplement then. this one is, to my supplement then. this one ts-tte— to my supplement then. this one pa-tne rust— to my supplement then. this one is,-the just stop- is, of course, the just stop on.— is, of course, the just stop on. wow.— is, of course, the just stop oil. now, they— is, of course, the just stop oil. now, they stormed the pitch tuntng— oil. now, they stormed the pitch during premiership rugby during the premiership rugby ttnot— during the premiership rugby final, throwing— during the premiership rugby final, throwing the well , that final, throwing the well, that ntttsutous— final, throwing the well, that ridiculous orange paint stuff tnat— ridiculous orange paint stuff mat-teen— ridiculous orange paint stuff that been doing on the that they've been doing on the nth.— that they've been doing on the pttst-ts— that they've been doing on the pttst-ts tnene- that they've been doing on the pitch. is there anything pitch. i mean, is there anything that— pitch. i mean, is there anything mat-num— pitch. i mean, is there anything ttat-nutn ?- pitch. i mean, is there anything ttat-nutn t t- pitch. i mean, is there anything that-ruin ? i mean,i that they can't ruin? i mean, tts— that they can't ruin? i mean, tts-tts— that they can't ruin? i mean, it's it's ridiculous, isn't it's just it's ridiculous, isn't it? it's just it's ridiculous, isn't. tte—ttem it? i mean, that i heard them eantten— it? i mean, that i heard them earlier yesterday— it? i mean, that i heard them earlier yesterday . they were earlier yesterday. they were tatktng — earlier yesterday. they were talking-about- talking to us about sustainability and getting rid

of sustainability and getting rid ot att— sustainability and getting rid ot at new— sustainability and getting rid of all new oil— sustainability and getting rid of all new oil and gas and it's rust— of all new oil and gas and it's rust t— of all new oil and gas and it's rust t tntnk— of all new oil and gas and it's just i think we— of all new oil and gas and it's just i think we would be pnotatty— just i think we would be probably well- just i think we would be probably well closer to switzerland— probably well closer to switzerland if it wasn't for those— switzerland if it wasn't for those idiots— switzerland if it wasn't for those idiots that just stop oil in those idiots that just stop oil tn tne— those idiots that just stop oil tn tne teast— those idiots that just stop oil in the least miserable list of sountts— in the least miserable list of countries around— in the least miserable list of countries around the world tsaus— countries around the world because people— countries around the world because people like that and met— because people like that and ttetn-ton-t- because people like that and their-don't hate. because people like that and their don't hate them their actions, i don't hate them tnttvttuatty. — their actions, i don't hate them individually. “tzi3 ”ti: their actions, i don't hate them individually. “tzi3 ”til " ti.t:i; individually. they're nice people, probably, but i don't like what they're doing and it makes miserable . the makes people so miserable. the commute it's so commute to london, it's so unfair on the rest of the population . i mean, they've done population. i mean, they've done the population. i mean, they've done tne—tney-ve- population. i mean, they've done the _they've donei the grand national, they've done the grand national, they've done tne—ttey- the grand national, they've done tne—tney to- the rugby, they did. they do sonetttng. — the rugby, they did. they do something. .stop.- the rugby, they did. they do- something. .stop.-wasn't something. just stop. oil wasn't the that oh, the grand national that was oh, no, liberation no, that was liberation front, right? no, don't right? that's right. no, don't get.— right? that's right. no, don't get—tent- right? that's right. no, don't get—tent to- right? that's right. no, don't- get._tend to muddle get. but they all tend to muddle up. get. but they all tend to muddle up- _“p-i up. they all tend to muddle up. they-ne— up. they all tend to muddle up. they're throwing— up. they all tend to muddle up. they're throwing over they're throwing stuff all over tuttttngs—tt- they're throwing stuff all over buildings—it is| buildings and stuff. and it is rust— buildings and stuff. and it is rust tnnowtng— buildings and stuff. and it is just throwing themselves off tuttttngs— just throwing themselves off tuttttngs .— just throwing themselves off buildings . well, don't tell buildings. well, don't tell tnen. — buildings. well, don't tell then -no- buildings. well, don't tell then -no .- buildings. well, don't tell them.-no , no,- buildings. well, don't tell them. no , no, no, buildings. well, don't tell- them.-no , no, no, no, them. no, no, no, no, no, no, ttey— them. no, no, no, no, no, no, tney won-t— them. no, no, no, no, no, no,- no. they won't-because no. they won't do that because they're all just entitled. well, is there is well, no, the answer is there is notttng— nothing they can't ruin because tttn— nothing they can't ruin because. tnen—gotng then you never know what's going to—tne- to come next. i mean, the sononatton— to come next. i mean, the coronation people were terrified ttey— coronation people were terrified tney—to — coronation people were terrified tney—to-patnti they were going to chuck paint all they were going to chuck paint att—wo.- they were going to chuck paint att—wo. tut- they were going to chuck paint all_ no, but that| all over the king. no, but that tttn-t— all over the king. no, but that tttn-t wonk— all over the king. no, but that didn't work out. _ all over the king. no, but that didn't work out. “tzi3 t: t: i“ e didn't work out. they didn't thank goodness. listen, listen, if joining us, if you're just joining us, welcome. the end welcome. but it is the end of the but let's talk about

the show. but let's talk about what's been on the show. i've been is it the been asking you, is it the government's capping government's place to be capping food think? food prices? what do you think? well, according to our twitter poll, 39% of you said yes. and 61% of you say no . i've got to 61% of you say no. i've got to say a huge thank you to my panel say a huge thank you to my panel, author and broadcaster christine milton. christine, thank you very much. pleasure. always thank you so always. and also thank you so much to broadcaster and journalist danny kenny. thank you. you very much, danny you. thank you very much, danny . good to see smile. see . good to see you. smile. see you smile. miall . you look you smile. luke miall. you look rather serious. _ you smile. luke miall. you look rather serious. see you at home for your company. thank you so much. been pleasure much. it's been a pleasure as even much. it's been a pleasure as ever. back next week at ever. i'll be back next week at saturday at three arnie. i'll leave you with the fabulous weather. enjoy the bank holiday monday. hello weather. enjoy the bank holiday monday . hello there. i'm monday. hello there. i'm tonatnan— monday. hello there. i'm jonathan vautrey- : hello there. i'm jonathan vautrey here with your tatest— jonathan vautrey here with your tatest st — jonathan vautrey here with your latest gb news— jonathan vautrey here with your latest gb news weather forecast pnovttet— latest gb news weather forecast pnovttet ty— latest gb news weather forecast pnovttet ty tne— latest gb news weather forecast provided by the met office i nope— provided by the met office i nope you-ve— provided by the met office i hope you've been enjoying the tong— hope you've been enjoying the tong weekent— hope you've been enjoying the long weekend .— hope you've been enjoying the long weekend . so far there has long weekend. so far there has teen— long weekend. so far there has teen-tne— long weekend. so far there has been _fine weather- been a lot of fine weather anount— been a lot of fine weather around thanks— been a lot of fine weather around thanks high pressure. around thanks to high pressure. tnat-s— around thanks to high pressure. ttats teen— around thanks to high pressure. that's been with— around thanks to high pressure. that's been with us and is staytng— that's been with us and is staytng wttt— that's been with us and is staying with throughout the staying with us throughout the rest staying with us throughout the nest—ntt- staying with us throughout the. rest—into monday rest of sunday and into monday as wet. — rest of sunday and into monday as well. whilst— rest of sunday and into monday as well. whilst it's— rest of sunday and into monday as well. whilst it's staying tangety— as well. whilst it's staying tangety tny— as well. whilst it's staying largely dry, we— as well. whilst it's staying largely dry, we do just have ttts— largely dry, we do just have this-squeeze- largely dry, we do just have this-squeeze in- largely dry, we do just have this squeeze in the this slight squeeze in the tsotans—

this slight squeeze in the. isobars-southern this slight squeeze in the- isobars-southern half isobars across the southern half of isobars across the southern half ot-so— isobars across the southern half ot-so tte— isobars across the southern half of-so the breeze- isobars across the southern half of-so the breeze is- of the uk. so the breeze is going— of the uk. so the breeze is gotng to— of the uk. so the breeze is gotng to te— of the uk. so the breeze is going to be strengthening ttnougnout— going to be strengthening throughout evening and throughout this evening and ovenntgtt— throughout this evening andi ovenntgtt—te overnight. so just do just be awaneoulyne— overnight. so just do just be aware you're camping out aware if you're out camping out tene— aware if you're out camping out tent—tne— aware if you're out camping out here—the cloud- aware if you're out camping out here the cloud will here elsewhere, the cloud will be here elsewhere, the cloud will te netttng— here elsewhere, the cloud will be melting away— here elsewhere, the cloud will be melting away throughout the ntgtt— be melting away throughout the ntgtt-we-tt— be melting away throughout the night-we'll-good- night and we'll see a good nunten— night and we'll see a good nunten ot— night and we'll see a good number of intervals number of clear intervals tevetoptng— number of clear intervals developing that will allow temperatures— developing that will allow temperatures to drop temperatures to just drop off evenlsttgttty— temperatures to just drop off ever slightly overnight. most ever so slightly overnight. most towns— ever so slightly overnight. most towns-stttes— ever so slightly overnight. most towns-cities will- ever so slightly overnight. most towns cities will be down in towns and cities will be down in stngte— towns and cities will be down in stngte ttgunes— towns and cities will be down in single figures, there is the single figures, but there is the ntsk—nunat- single figures, but there is the risk—rural frost- single figures, but there is the risk—rural frost for| risk of a patchy rural frost for pants— risk of a patchy rural frost for parts-northern— risk of a patchy rural frost for parts northern england. parts of northern england. wontnenn— parts of northern england. northern ireland and scotland as wett— northern ireland and scotland as wet .— northern ireland and scotland as wet . tesptte— northern ireland and scotland as well . despite that— northern ireland and scotland as well . despite that slightly well. despite that slightly soot— well. despite that slightly soot-stant- well. despite that slightly cool,-start ,- well. despite that slightly cool, start , though, cool, chilly start, though, ttene— cool, chilly start, though, that wttt— cool, chilly start, though, there will be— cool, chilly start, though, there will be a- cool, chilly start, though, there will be a good number of sunny— there will be a good number of sunny-— there will be a good number of sunny-asiktsk- there will be a good number of sunny-as.kick offi sunny intervals as we kick off tne— sunny intervals as we kick off tne tank— sunny intervals as we kick off the bank holiday— sunny intervals as we kick off the bank holiday monday and wett— the bank holiday monday and we-tt-tnat— the bank holiday monday and we'll that sunshine as we we'll retain that sunshine as we neat—tne— we'll retain that sunshine as we neat—tne-as- we'll retain that sunshine as we. head _the - as well. head throughout the day as well. sone— head throughout the day as well. sont-stout— head throughout the day as well. some cloud perhaps just some wispy cloud perhaps just naktng— some wispy cloud perhaps just making-sunshine- some wispy cloud perhaps just making sunshine hazier in making the sunshine hazier in ptases— making the sunshine hazier in ptases. tut— making the sunshine hazier in places, but that— making the sunshine hazier in places, but that thin cloud is not— places, but that thin cloud is not-pnotest- places, but that thin cloud is not-protect your- places, but that thin cloud is not protect your skin not going to protect your skin tnon— not going to protect your skin tnon tne — not going to protect your skin tnon tne ntgt— not going to protect your skin from the high levels that from the high uv levels that wttt— from the high uv levels that will-around— from the high uv levels that will around throughout the from the high uv levels that will so around throughout the from the high uv levels that will so do und throughout the from the high uv levels that will so do makerroughout the from the high uv levels that will so do makerrouegou'ree day. so do make sure you're tntnktng— day. so do make sure you're thinking—skin. thinking about some skin pnotestton— thinking about some skin protection,-biti thinking about some skin- protection,-bit cooler protection, feeling a bit cooler atong— protection, feeling a bit cooler atong easennt— protection, feeling a bit cooler along eastern coastal with along eastern coastal areas with ttat— along eastern coastal areas with mat-tut— along eastern coastal areas with that-but generally- along eastern coastal areas with that but generally 20 that breeze. but generally 20 tegnees— that breeze. but generally 20 degrees—warm i that breeze. but generally 20 degrees—warm as| that breeze. but generally 20- degrees_warm as you degrees and feeling warm as you neat— degrees and feeling warm as you neat tuntnen— degrees and feeling warm as you head further west— degrees and feeling warm as you head further west into the ovenntgtt— head further west into the overnight period. again, we'll tangety— overnight period. again, we'll see largely clear— overnight period. again, we'll see largely clear skies. so temperatures— see largely clear skies. so temperatures will be dropping off

temperatures will be dropping ott os— temperatures will be dropping off once again.— temperatures will be dropping off once again. the risk of that patsny— off once again. the risk of that patsny-gotng- off once again. the risk of that patsny-gotng to- off once again. the risk of that patchy going to be the patchy frost is going to be the nonttenn— patchy frost is going to be the northern areas— patchy frost is going to be the northern areas of— patchy frost is going to be the northern areas of scotland where wett— northern areas of scotland where we'll-cloudiest_ northern areas of scotland where we'll-cloudiest as- northern areas of scotland where we'll cloudiest as we head we'll stay cloudiest as we head tnto— we'll stay cloudiest as we head two-.— we'll stay cloudiest as we head tnto-. tentaps- we'll stay cloudiest as we head into-. perhaps-oddi we'll stay cloudiest as we head into of . perhaps odd we'll stay cloudiest as we head into of drizzle perhaps odd we'll stay cloudiest as we head into of drizzle foriaps odd we'll stay cloudiest as we head into of drizzle for parts odd we'll stay cloudiest as we head into of drizzle for parts of odd spot of drizzle for parts of snettant. — spot of drizzle for parts of shetland, but— spot of drizzle for parts of shetland, but elsewhere it will be shetland, but elsewhere it will te staytng— shetland, but elsewhere it will te staytng tny— shetland, but elsewhere it will be staying dry once again. and a goot— be staying dry once again. and a goot anount— be staying dry once again. and a good amount sunshine if you good amount of sunshine if you are good amount of sunshine if you ant—outstte. - good amount of sunshine if you are—outside. just. good amount of sunshine if you areiof-outside. just. good amount of sunshine if you are of cloud outside. just good amount of sunshine if you are of cloud floatingde. just good amount of sunshine if you are of cloud floating itsjust good amount of sunshine if you are of cloud floating its way a bit of cloud floating its way in a bit of cloud floating its way tn atong— a bit of cloud floating its way in along eastern— a bit of cloud floating its way in along eastern coastal areas. ntgt— in along eastern coastal areas. ntgn pnessune— in along eastern coastal areas. ntgn pnessune ts— in along eastern coastal areas. high pressure is staying with us as we neat— high pressure is staying with us as we head throughout the rest of as we head throughout the rest ot—as— as we head throughout the rest ot—as wtnts- as we head throughout the resti of_as winds move of the week. but as winds move in of the week. but as winds move tn a— of the week. but as winds move in a clockwise— of the week. but as winds move in a clockwise direction around ttts— in a clockwise direction around ttts. went— in a clockwise direction around this, we're still— in a clockwise direction around this, we're still going to be netttng— this, we're still going to be feeling-easterly- this, we're still going to be feeling easterly north feeling in that easterly north eastenty— feeling in that easterly north easterly breeze— feeling in that easterly north easterly breeze with cloud potenttatty— easterly breeze with cloud. potentially _ into potentially just pushing into easennt— potentially just pushing into eastern throughout the eastern areas throughout the week.— eastern areas throughout the week. .generally- eastern areas throughout the week. generally west is going week. so generally west is going toltest— week. so generally west is going toltest ton— week. so generally west is going to.best for those— to be best for those temperatures, but .

welcome to gloria meats. first up tonight, it's the conservative mp , paul maynard. conservative mp, paul maynard. at birth, the umbilical cord got wnappet— at birth, the umbilical cord got wrapped around— at birth, the umbilical cord got wrapped around my neck. i got stantt— wrapped around my neck. i got stanvet ot— wrapped around my neck. i got starved of oxygen. _ wrapped around my neck. i got starved of oxygen. it led to a tegnee— starved of oxygen. it led to a tegnee ot— starved of oxygen. it led to a degree of brain— starved of oxygen. it led to a degree of brain damage and i had senetnat— degree of brain damage and i had senetnat patsy. — degree of brain damage and i had cerebral palsy. life— degree of brain damage and i had cerebral palsy. �*"t:i; nit�*t: . cerebral palsy. life and times with former first minister of northern ireland, arlene foster and then daddy came in crawling on all fours with blood coming from his head. he wants to be the conservative— i“ : he wants to be the conservative candidate for tonton— the conservative candidate for tonton ttayon— the conservative candidate for london mayor and beat labour's sattg— london mayor and beat labour's sattg knan. — london mayor and beat labour's sadiq khan. it's— london mayor and beat labour's sadiq khan. . i