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west yorkshire. andrea jenkins. so west yorkshire. andrea jenkins. sa rn— west yorkshire. andrea jenkins. sa in my— west yorkshire. andrea jenkins. sa n my big— west yorkshire. andrea jenkins. so in my big opinion i'm dealing wran— so in my big opinion i'm dealing man ner— so in my big opinion i'm dealing with keir starmer_ so in my big opinion i'm dealing with keir starmer in my take a tena— with keir starmer in my take a en ru— with keir starmer in my take a en m be— with keir starmer in my take a ten, i'll be dealing with itv ana— ten, i'll be dealing with itv and ne— ten, i'll be dealing with itv and the this— ten, i'll be dealing with itv and the this morning debate raekre— and the this morning debate raekre a— and the this morning debate tackle a busy— and the this morning debate tackle a busy two hours to come. ears— tackle a busy two hours to come. ears ra— tackle a busy two hours to come. lots to debate. _ tackle a busy two hours to come. lots to debate. but— tackle a busy two hours to come. lots to debate. but after all it is snnaay— lots to debate. but after all it is sunday night— lots to debate. but after all it is sunday night ._ lots to debate. but after all it is sunday night. it's a bank narraay— is sunday night. it's a bank holiday weekend. so let's have ran— holiday weekend. so let's have some fun along— holiday weekend. so let's have some fun along the way. put sanernrne— some fun along the way. put something cold— some fun along the way. put something cold and fizzy in the fringe— something cold and fizzy in the fridge ar— something cold and fizzy in the rnage ar ne— something cold and fizzy in the fridge or fire up— something cold and fizzy in the fridge or fire up the kettle and res— fridge or fire up the kettle and teas nake— fridge or fire up the kettle and teas make a— fridge or fire up the kettle and let's make a night of it. let's sran— let's make a night of it. let's sran wran— let's make a night of it. let's start with the— let's make a night of it. let's start with the headlines and nary— start with the headlines and ray smirn— start with the headlines and ray smrrn .— start with the headlines and rory smith . thank you very much. rory smith. thank you very much. mark. — rory smith. thank you very much. mark. rrv— rory smith. thank you very much. mark. rrv says— rory smith. thank you very much. mark. itv says this— rory smith. thank you very much. mark. itv says this morning- rory smith. thank you very much. mark. itv says this morning will air tomorrow following reports the show could be axed. but staff members say executives need to prove their properly. addressing the issue of phillips schofield's affair with a young employee , obe sources have told employee, obe sources have told gb news that bosses have just seven days to see if the

programme. we asked some viewers their opinions. it's not really for their opinions. it's not really far as— their opinions. it's not really far as ra— their opinions. it's not really far as ra mage— ” " it's not really for us to judge someone. i mean, anar— for us to judge someone. i mean, nnar ne— for us to judge someone. i mean, nnar me are— for us to judge someone. i mean, what he did and— for us to judge someone. i mean, what he did and what if it's nae— what he did and what if it's me anar— what he did and what if it's true that this— what he did and what if it's true that this young chap was 18? true that this young chap was rse mere-s— true that this young chap was 18? there's nothing to do with man — 18? there's nothing to do with man r— 18? there's nothing to do with man r rnrnk— 18? there's nothing to do with that. i think he— 18? there's nothing to do with that. i think he should speak to his that. i think he should speak to mm fanny.— that. i think he should speak to nrsramrry. r— that. i think he should speak to hisfamily. iwill_ that. i think he should speak to his family. i will say that i rnrnk— his family. i will say that i think perhaps— his family. i will say that i think perhaps the show needs is tresn. — think perhaps the show needs is rresn. reame— think perhaps the show needs is fresh. people on. _ think perhaps the show needs is fresh. people on. i— think perhaps the show needs is fresh. rzzr" fresh. people on. i think that the show really relied on the chemistry that holly and phil had for me. less i'm less keen to had for me. less i'm less keen ra warming— had for me. less i'm less keen to watching the— “er: less i'm less keen to watching the programmes with men — to watching the programmes with men as— to watching the programmes with men as rney— to watching the programmes with them as they split. am i right? ana— them as they split. am i right? and r— them as they split. am i right? and r rnrnk— them as they split. am i right? and i think that— them as they split. am i right? and i think that holly is going to and i think that holly is going ra eer— and i think that holly is going ra eer ane— and i think that holly is going to get the career— and i think that holly is going to get the career even bigger van— to get the career even bigger now. you know,— to get the career even bigger now. you know, i— to get the career even bigger now. you know, i like i like eni— now. you know, i like i like em ana— now. you know, i like i like phil and holly,— now. you know, i like i like phil and holly, so i'm very sad to phil and holly, so i'm very sad ra see— phil and holly, so i'm very sad ra anem— phil and holly, so i'm very sad ra men 90— phil and holly, so i'm very sad to see them go because i loved i raven— to see them go because i loved i raven anem— to see them go because i loved i loved them both. _ to see them go because i loved i loved them both. c can loved them both. so it's a pity really . and i was shocked to really. and i was shocked to hear about phil because i didn't think he'd do anything like that. be so deceitful . in that. be so deceitful. in turkey. president erdogan has ane— c. president erdogan has won the presidential elections to won the presidential elections

ra rake— won the presidential elections ra rake ms— won the presidential elections to take his rule— won the presidential elections to take his rule into a third decade.— to take his rule into a third decade. erdogan has received tast— decade. erdogan has received tnsr ae— decade. erdogan has received tnsr aza— decade. erdogan has received just over 52% of— decade. erdogan has received just over 52% of the vote with nrrreaaraern— just over 52% of the vote with kilicdaroglu securing nearly 48. his kilicdaroglu securing nearly 48. ms mar— kilicdaroglu securing nearly 48. ms nvar rs— kilicdaroglu securing nearly 48. his rival is refusing to admit defeat,— his rival is refusing to admit defeat, calling— his rival is refusing to admit defeat, calling it an unfair , defeat, calling it an unfair, tarr— defeat, calling it an unfair, fair election.— defeat, calling it an unfair, fair election. french president rmmanner— fair election. french president emmanuel macron and russia's vraarmrr— emmanuel macron and russia's vladimir putin— emmanuel macron and russia's vladimir putin have both congratulated— vladimir putin have both congratulated the leader on his re—ereerran— congratulated the leader on his re—ereerran .— congratulated the leader on his re—election . an— congratulated the leader on his re—election . an a— congratulated the leader on his re—election . an a five year old re—election. an a five year old girl— re—election. an a five year old ern nas— re—election. an a five year old gin nas area— re—election. an a five year old girl has died following a house fire girl has died following a house me n— girl has died following a house fire in pembrokeshire. despite the fire in pembrokeshire. despite rne errans— fire in pembrokeshire. despite the efforts of— fire in pembrokeshire. despite the efforts of emergency services— the efforts of emergency services ,— the efforts of emergency services , alicia salisbury services, alicia salisbury passen— services, alicia salisbury passed away— services, alicia salisbury passed away at the scene of the maze— passed away at the scene of the maze m— passed away at the scene of the maze in ne— passed away at the scene of the blaze in the pontic_ passed away at the scene of the blaze in the pontic glacier area rast— blaze in the pontic glacier area rasr mena— blaze in the pontic glacier area rasr nrenr .— blaze in the pontic glacier area last night. her— blaze in the pontic glacier area last night. her family, who described— last night. her family, who described her— last night. her family, who described her as a beautiful easemen— described her as a beautiful daughter and— described her as a beautiful daughter and sister , are being daughter and sister, are being snaaanea— daughter and sister, are being snaaanea ay— daughter and sister, are being supported by specialist amnes— supported by specialist officers. the- supported by specialist officers. the force says it's naming— officers. the force says it's naming ra— officers. the force says it's working to establish the cause me— working to establish the cause the government— working to establish the cause the government is launching an ad campaign— the government is launching an ad campaign ra— the government is launching an ad campaign to stop people from massing— ad campaign to stop people from erassrne ane— ad campaign to stop people from crossing the channel. the advert is crossing the channel. the advert rs ser— crossing the channel. the advert is set ra— crossing the channel. the advert is set ra ae— crossing the channel. the advert is set to be circulated in arnanra— is set to be circulated in albania next— is set to be circulated in albania next week, will warn

people— albania next week, will warn people rney— albania next week, will warn people they face— albania next week, will warn people they face being detained and people they face being detained ana emaea— people they face being detained and removed if— people they face being detained and removed if they make the tanmey— and removed if they make the tanrney armre— and removed if they make the journey while critics have arreaay— journey while critics have already branded it as pointless, saying— already branded it as pointless, sayrng n— already branded it as pointless, saying it wan-r— already branded it as pointless, saying it won't deter them. a reeara— saying it won't deter them. a record number— saying it won't deter them. a record number of— saying it won't deter them. a record number of people made the massing— record number of people made the casing m— record number of people made the crossing in small— record number of people made the crossing in small boats last year— crossing in small boats last year ana— crossing in small boats last year and more— crossing in small boats last year and more than 6000 have been— year and more than 6000 have been intercepted— year and more than 6000 have been intercepted so far this year— been intercepted so far this year .— been intercepted so far this year . supermarket ice could be year. supermarket ice could be asked— year. supermarket ice could be asked ra— year. supermarket ice could be asked to introduce— year. supermarket ice could be asked to introduce a price cap on asked to introduce a price cap an taste— asked to introduce a price cap on basic food— asked to introduce a price cap on basic food to— asked to introduce a price cap on basic food to help struggling nausenaras.— on basic food to help struggling households. the— on basic food to help struggling households. the government is reaaneary— households. the government is reportedly drawing up plans suggesting— reportedly drawing up plans snggesttng tne— reportedly drawing up plans suggesting the move . but a suggesting the move. but a treasury— suggesting the move. but a treasury source— suggesting the move. but a treasury source told a sunday tetegraan— treasury source told a sunday tetegraan rt— treasury source told a sunday telegraph it would be voluntary . tne— telegraph it would be voluntary . tne snene— telegraph it would be voluntary . the scheme would see retailers enargtng— . the scheme would see retailers enargtng tne— . the scheme would see retailers charging the lowest— . the scheme would see retailers charging the lowest possible amnt— charging the lowest possible amt tar— charging the lowest possible amount for products like bread ant— amount for products like bread ant mit— amount for products like bread ant mttt ,— amount for products like bread and milk , while— amount for products like bread and milk , while food prices, and milk, while food prices, nnten— and milk, while food prices, that are— and milk, while food prices, which are expected to keep rtstng— which are expected to keep rtstng, nave— which are expected to keep rising, have increased by 19.1% in rising, have increased by 19.1% tn tne— rising, have increased by 19.1% tn tne year— rising, have increased by 19.1% tn tne year ta— rising, have increased by 19.1% in the year to march . a tv in the year to march. a tv anttne— in the year to march. a tv online dab+_ in the year to march. a tv online dab+ radio and tunein. tnts— online dab+ radio and tunein. tnts ts— online dab+ radio and tunein. tnts ts en— online dab+ radio and tunein. this is gb news— online dab+ radio and tunein. this is gb news nato. back to .

mark welcome to mark dolan tonight. in my big opinion, labour wants to rid of gas and oil to get rid of gas and oil licences in the north sea. five years of starmer would leave us poorer, colder and reliant on foreign imports . that's if foreign imports. that's if labour gets in. i'd advise you to invest in a duffle coat. the future of this morning is also the topic of tonight's big story . i'll get the views of former top daytime tv presenter and gb news star esther mcvey. my mark meets guest is one of the most fearless and principled politicians in the country. the brexit supporting conservative mp for morley and outwood in west yorkshire, andrea jenkyns goes and as keir starmer says, he has a plan to tackle the channel migrant crisis. can labour stop the boats? i'll be asking tonight's newsmaker for the formidable ann widdecombe in

my take at ten itv are expected to axe this morning by the autumn . this sorry drama is one autumn. this sorry drama is one of their own making . and two of their own making. and two weeks ago i broke the internet with my extraordinary offer to step in and rescue the show . step in and rescue the show. after ten, find out whether that offer still stands . mark dolan offer still stands. mark dolan tonight is the home of the papers with tomorrow's front pages at exactly 1030 with the three top pundits who haven't been told what to say and who don't. follow the script tonight , hilary freeman, john sergeant and linda jubilee . tonight, i'll and linda jubilee. tonight, i'll be asking the pundits should rishi sunak cap food prices ? is rishi sunak cap food prices? is it acceptable to shout f the tories and should under sixteens always be accompanied by an aduu always be accompanied by an adult in a shopping centre plus your emails, especially the spicy ones? mark at cbnnews.com . and this show has a golden rule . we don't do boring. not on

rule. we don't do boring. not on my watch. i just won't have it. happy bank. holiday weekend to one and all. we're going to have some debates. we're going to have a laugh and we're going to have a laugh and we're going to have some entertainment along the way as it's and you the way as it's sunday and you don't have work tomorrow, most of don't you fire up of you. why don't you fire up the brew going or the kettle, get a brew going or put cold and in put something cold and fizzy in the fridge let's have the fridge and let's have a night to remember. big news, folks. as reported in today's sunday times newspaper , sir keir sunday times newspaper, sir keir starmer, the cervix free leader of the opposition, will announce plans to block all new north sea oil and gas developments and limit borrowing to green, invest only as part of a radical blueprint to make britain , and i blueprint to make britain, and i quote, a clean energy superpower . plus, he wants to create a terrifying trying 1970s style state funded company gambling tax payers billions on flaky, renewable deals. now germany

took this route over a decade ago under the leadership of the disastrous angela merkel, the most overrated politician in europe history. it was the green party in germany upon whose votes and support merkel was so reliant who took germany down the bizarre path of ditching all nuclear energy and investing tens of billions in wind and solar. to tens of billions in wind and solar . to the tens of billions in wind and solar. to the end result, a country lacking energy independence , suffering, independence, suffering, crippling energy costs to industry. and don't forget , the industry. and don't forget, the germans make a lot of stuff up. and a shocking overreliance on vladimir putin to keep the lights on. don't forget, it was in 2019 that donald trump warned germany that they were overly dependent on russian oil and gas . but he's a bad person and we shouldn't listen to him. we shouldn't listen to him. we should listen to ideological greens zealots whose policies in germany have plunged that country into a recession that we

avoided. and now wait for it. the germans are opening new coal mines. yes the filthiest form of energy that you can find. quite the turnaround blindly pushing for net zero, irrespective of the consequences on ordinary people is pure politics and will leave factories bankrupted by energy costs and ordinary people shivering at home. the message is clear go woke, no smoke . is clear go woke, no smoke. ironically, our record on the environment in the uk is a good one. in the last two decades, carbon emissions in britain have fallen by 43% and we are responsible for just over 1% of global emissions. not bad for the fifth biggest economy in the world. there's always more to do, and i'm all for getting carbon emissions down. and who doesn't want cheap, reliable, renewable energy and cleaner air? green energy is a potential

money spinner for us. we are world leaders in green tech and countless jobs are up for grabs. so bring it on. but i hate to be so balanced about this, but i'm thinking what might be best is an energy mix. i know it sounds controversial. long term investment in nuclear, solar, wind and tidal power along the way and a bit of oil and gas to fall back on, always keeping the opfion fall back on, always keeping the option to drill, baby, drill, open when faced with a monster like putin. how about that ? what like putin. how about that? what do you think? under labour's plan , which in my view is purely plan, which in my view is purely dnven plan, which in my view is purely driven by a desire to win votes in places like scotland where thousands have joined the climate cult , we risk climate cult, we risk permanently high energy prices and a reliance on unscrupulous regimes like saudi arabia and russia to fill the gap . plus, russia to fill the gap. plus, the madness of us buying shale gas from the americans, which we've just signed up to do . the we've just signed up to do. the world clearly needs to wean

itself off fossil fuels, but perhaps we could allow china, india , brazil, russia and the india, brazil, russia and the united states to make some progress with their eye—watering emissions before we bankrupt ourselves by showing so—called leadership on this issue , we leadership on this issue, we must have screwed arnie when it comes to the so—called climate emergency. look, it might be emergency. look, it might be emergency. it might not be emergency. it might not be emergency. but unlike covid, let's debate it. let's hear from all voices, including those who challenge the narrative . if challenge the narrative. if i hear the expression the science is settled one more time, i will throw up and let's make sure that policies which impact the people are done with the consent of the people as we are the ones who will pay the price if the pursuit of net zero proves fruitless and ruinously expensive . we need to clean up expensive. we need to clean up the planet and get emissions down, but not by clobbering

business, by wrecking the economy and curtailing the quality of life of the british people . so i happen to think the people. so i happen to think the windfall taxes on oil and gas companies was a terrible mistake, given that we're seeking to partner with those businesses in investing in renewables. we either want their help or we don't . help or we don't. understandably, they're now taking their billions elsewhere . and of course, we saw those numpties just stop oil at a major rugby match yesterday , major rugby match yesterday, causing more havoc by risking lives , blocking roads and lives, blocking roads and causing disruption . these causing disruption. these chances are losing the argument and losing the support of the great british public, many of whom are bringing the law into their own hands as keir starmer probably has quiet admiration for just stop oil. well, they're his type, aren't they? middle class is lington dwelling champagne socialists . class is lington dwelling champagne socialists. but class is lington dwelling champagne socialists . but what champagne socialists. but what is their utopia for the people that gary lineker thinks are heroes? well, just stop oil.

want you to have no car or no international flights for ordinary people , no central ordinary people, no central heating, no meat that you can't live in a big house or have a spare room. eco extremism is an ideology . be spare room. eco extremism is an ideology. be a religion and a cult. honestly they are such cults and it comes from the same so—called science which claims a man can become a woman if we're not careful. future governments will be deciding how many cups of tea we can have a day based upon our carbon allowance . a upon our carbon allowance. a sensible and integral approach to cleaning up the planet is welcome but blindly pursue net zero with no debate or scrutiny threatens to hasten the decline of the west and therefore poses an existential threat to the free world and no one voted for that. free world and no one voted for that . oh, forget about just stop that. oh, forget about just stop oil just stop. starmer.

brilliant stuff. well, look , brilliant stuff. well, look, what is your reaction? greg? give me a little bit of a scroll, if you don't mind. the email address is a brand new one and it is a mark at gbnews.uk. com what is your view now? keir starmer would argue that the rate of climate change is unsustainable and the cost of future natural disasters far outweighs any investment we make now as prime minister, starmer wants to show leadership in this field so that britain can be a global beacon as a low carbon, successful green economy. he'd argue he's the only politician offering a bright and sustainable future for both the country and the planet. that's not my view, but that is his. what do you think? mark gb news .com . let's get the views now of .com. let's get the views now of my top pundits tonight, author and agony hillary freeman, and agony aunt hillary freeman, top journalist at the bbc's former chief political

correspondent , tv news legend correspondent, tv news legend john sergeant . and speaking of john sergeant. and speaking of legends , journalist and legends, journalist and broadcaster linda jubilee. linda, can i just say you're too young to be a legend? oh thank young to be a legend? oh thank you so much. at least two more decades. idon't you so much. at least two more decades. i don't know that ya-re— decades. i don't know that ye ngnt,— :f: i don't know that you're right, though. int" you're right, though. whilst tre— you're right, though. whilst he get— you're right, though. whilst he get your— you're right, though. whilst i've got your attention, your reaction to the news that essential early keir starmer wants to prevent us exploring new oil and gas fields for the future. well, it kind of says ttat— future. well, it kind of says rig, tat— future. well, it kind of says rig, tat as— future. well, it kind of says that, but as usual,- ”iii: well, it kind of says that, but as usual, he only gtves— that, but as usual, he only gtyes yan— that, but as usual, he only gtyes yan tne— that, but as usual, he only gives you the top line. he taesn-t— gives you the top line. he doesn't underpin what he said nttn— doesn't underpin what he said nttn anytntng— doesn't underpin what he said with anything else and i think tnat-s— with anything else and i think that's becoming— with anything else and i think that's becoming a trademark of tetr— that's becoming a trademark of keir starmer's._ that's becoming a trademark of keir starmer's. he— that's becoming a trademark of keir starmer's. he launches into anrases— keir starmer's. he launches into anrases-ne— keir starmer's. he launches into phrases,-he doesn't- keir starmer's. he launches into phrases, he doesn't underpin phrases, but he doesn't underpin tnem— phrases, but he doesn't underpin tnem nttn— phrases, but he doesn't underpin them with proper— phrases, but he doesn't underpin them with proper data, proper tntarmattan— them with proper data, proper information .— them with proper data, proper information . so— them with proper data, proper information . so we don't know information. so we don't know nnat— information. so we don't know nnat tne— information. so we don't know what the strength _ information. so we don't know what the strength of this eamment— what the strength of this comment really is. i suspect tnat— comment really is. i suspect tnat tnere— comment really is. i suspect that there is— comment really is. i suspect that there is a— comment really is. i suspect that there is a political imperative.— that there is a political imperative. obviously here, both aatttteat— imperative. obviously here, both political parties— imperative. obviously here, both political parties want to get yannger— political parties want to get younger viewers and everybody mans— younger viewers and everybody tnans tnat— younger viewers and everybody knows that gen _ younger viewers and everybody knows that gen z— younger viewers and everybody knows that gen z millennials , knows that gen z millennials, tney-re— knows that gen z millennials, tney-re att— knows that gen z millennials, they're all concerned about the senate— they're all concerned about the climate change.— they're all concerned about the climate change. they want to seaaa — climate change. they want to seaaa na— climate change. they want to seaaa an tnase— climate change. they want to scoop up those voters. and i tntnt— scoop up those voters. and i mm mm— scoop up those voters. and i think that keir— scoop up those voters. and i think that keir starmer has that

trant— think that keir starmer has that trant at— think that keir starmer has that front of mind. _ think that keir starmer has that front of mind. 3: ' r: think that keir starmer has that front of mind. 3: ' 3 front of mind. indeed. and i think we might not realise just how popular the eco message is up in scotland and labour's see their path to power back to number 10 exactly as via scottish votes. so which is astonishing, john, because it's the scottish economy. if it were to be independent, that would be so reliant on north sea reserves. sure. but you're thinking logic, aren't you ? big thinking logic, aren't you? big mistake. no that's that's- g ring rt c 7 big mistake. no that's that's the arattem — mistake. no that's that's the problem about— mistake. no that's that's the problem about these things. reaate— problem about these things. reaate are— problem about these things. people are worried about climate mange,— people are worried about climate change, particularly not so much atant— change, particularly not so much atant tne— change, particularly not so much about the heating,— change, particularly not so much about the heating, but about the sateen— about the heating, but about the sudden enange— about the heating, but about the sudden change in— about the heating, but about the sudden change in the climate nnere— sudden change in the climate nnere yan— sudden change in the climate nnere yan get— sudden change in the climate where you get these incredible ttaats— where you get these incredible ttaats ant— where you get these incredible floods and people are beginning to floods and people are beginning ta reattse— floods and people are beginning ta reattse .— floods and people are beginning to realise , wait— floods and people are beginning to realise , wait a— floods and people are beginning to realise , wait a moment, this to realise, wait a moment, this art— to realise, wait a moment, this art nat— to realise, wait a moment, this art nat magen— to realise, wait a moment, this did not happen. like this aerate.— did not happen. like this before. and— did not happen. like this before. and i— did not happen. like this before. and i think that is aresstng— before. and i think that is aresstng an— before. and i think that is pressing on people's minds. so if pressing on people's minds. so tt yan— pressing on people's minds. so tt yan gtve— pressing on people's minds. so if you give them— pressing on people's minds. so if you give them a— pressing on people's minds. so if you give them a simple slogan .rnst— if you give them a simple slogan . just stag— if you give them a simple slogan . just stag ott— if you give them a simple slogan , just stop oil, right? that's it. particularly— , just stop oil, right? that's it. particularly for younger aeaate— it. particularly for younger people twing— it. particularly for younger people trying to grapple with at— people trying to grapple with some of these— people trying to grapple with some of these problems which annat— some of these problems which annat te— some of these problems which cannot be graspable. they're not like cannot be graspable. they're not ttte mat.— cannot be graspable. they're not like that. they're— cannot be graspable. they're not like that. they're very complicated. - like that. they're very complicated. they mean they tnvatve— complicated. they mean they involve people— complicated. they mean they involve people working in all sans—

involve people working in all sarts at— involve people working in all sorts of different— involve people working in all sorts of different directions to aanteve— sorts of different directions to achieve these _ sorts of different directions to achieve these results. but the tmmenstty— achieve these results. but the tmmenstty at— achieve these results. but the immensity of the— achieve these results. but the immensity of the problem is so must— immensity of the problem is so must rt— immensity of the problem is so must tt sweat— immensity of the problem is so much it swept away by with a stagan— much it swept away by with a stagan. or— much it swept away by with a slogan. of course,— much it swept away by with a slogan. of course, that's so attraettve— slogan. of course, that's so attractive for— slogan. of course, that's so attractive for people. it is . attractive for people. it is. rts— attractive for people. it is. we a— attractive for people. it is. it's a persuasive— attractive for people. it is. it's a persuasive message. however i think we've got to do this sensibly and i would say, hilary, economy first. yeah well, yes, but that's not going to, as you say, get the voters as and i think you know, you say slogans. yes , it is just slogans. yes, it is just a stagan— slogans. yes, it is just a stagan, tnt— 3 yes, it is just a slogan, but everything's slogans att— slogan, but everything's slogans art at— slogan, but everything's slogans now. all of politics is slogans. tyerytntng-s— now. all of politics is slogans. everything's headlines, isn't it? everything's headlines, isn't rte ant— everything's headlines, isn't rte ant r— everything's headlines, isn't it? and i think— everything's headlines, isn't it? and i think get brexit done. stan— it? and i think get brexit done. stag tne— it? and i think get brexit done. stop the boats. _ it? and i think get brexit done. stop the boats. exactly. that's nnat— stop the boats. exactly. that's nnat ant— stop the boats. exactly. that's what and ultimately, it doesn't reatty— what and ultimately, it doesn't reatty matter— what and ultimately, it doesn't really matter what the slogan is. really matter what the slogan ts.|tntnt— really matter what the slogan ts.|tntnt rt— really matter what the slogan is. think it people do care is. i think it people do care atant— is. i think it people do care atant tne— is. i think it people do care about the environment now. and we nave— about the environment now. and we nave ta— about the environment now. and we nave ta ta— about the environment now. and we have to do something because it we have to do something because tt ts— we have to do something because tt ts rt— we have to do something because tt ts tt ts— we have to do something because tt ts tt ts a— we have to do something because it is it is a pressing— we have to do something because it is it is a pressing issue and tney-ve— it is it is a pressing issue and tney-ye gat— it is it is a pressing issue and tney-ye gat ta— it is it is a pressing issue and they've got to labour's got a differentiate _ they've got to labour's got a differentiate themselves from the differentiate themselves from tne rates.— differentiate themselves from the tories. okay— differentiate themselves from the tories. okay /t:it. 3 f" the tories. okay your reaction. mark gb news .uk coming up next in the big story , should itv in the big story, should itv acts this morning and i'll see

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listening to gb news radio . nana listening to gb news radio. nana bill, on the subject of my big opinion, just stop care is it's the subject heading on his email. good evening, bill. how are email. good evening, bill. how yam— email. good evening, bill. how yane tram— email. good evening, bill. how are you? mark at— email. good evening, bill. how are you? mark at gb— c good evening, bill. how are you? mark at gb news .com. hi are you? mark at gb news .com. nt tram.— are you? mark at gb news .com. nt tram. tre— are you? mark at gb news .com. hi mark. we have— are you? mark at gb news .com. hi mark. we have to be self rettant— hi mark. we have to be self rettant ant— hi mark. we have to be self reliant and therefore our oil ant— reliant and therefore our oil ant gas— reliant and therefore our oil and gas reserves must be attttset— and gas reserves must be attttset rt— and gas reserves must be utilised if we— and gas reserves must be utilised if we rely on these geens— utilised if we rely on these gees ant— utilised if we rely on these greens and starmer, we will all be ttvtng— greens and starmer, we will all be ttvtng tn— greens and starmer, we will all be living in caves— greens and starmer, we will all be living in caves .— greens and starmer, we will all be living in caves. thank you for be living in caves. thank you tar mat.— be living in caves. thank you tar tnat. keep— be living in caves. thank you for that. keep those emails eamtng— for that. keep those emails eamtng .— for that. keep those emails eamtng . ant— for that. keep those emails coming . and now let's get back coming. and now let's get back to coming. and now let's get back ta ttv— coming. and now let's get back ta ttv .— coming. and now let's get back ta ttv . ant— coming. and now let's get back to itv . and this— coming. and now let's get back to itv . and this morning it is to itv. and this morning it is ttme— to itv. and this morning it is ttme tar— to itv. and this morning it is ttme tar tne— to itv. and this morning it is time for the big— to itv. and this morning it is time for the big story. and that is time for the big story. and that ts tne— time for the big story. and that ts tne anty— time for the big story. and that is the only story— time for the big story. and that is the only story in— time for the big story. and that is the only story in town. and amtt— is the only story in town. and amtt grantng— is the only story in town. and amid growing unrest among present— amid growing unrest among present eaters— amid growing unrest among present eaters and crew on the stan— present eaters and crew on the start tne— present eaters and crew on the show over the channel's handling of show over the channel's handling at me— show over the channel's handling at tne tntttta— show over the channel's handling of the phillip schofield crisis , ts— of the phillip schofield crisis , ts tt— of the phillip schofield crisis , is it inevitable— of the phillip schofield crisis , is it inevitable that the show nit— , is it inevitable that the show nttt get— , is it inevitable that the show nttt get me— , is it inevitable that the show will get the axe— , is it inevitable that the show will get the axe ?_ , is it inevitable that the show will get the axe ? what could the will get the axe? what could the tang— will get the axe? what could the tang term — will get the axe? what could the long term damage— will get the axe? what could the long term damage to itv's reantattan— long term damage to itv's reputation be?— long term damage to itv's reputation be? and where does natty— reputation be? and where does holly willoughby go from here?

is holly willoughby go from here? ts sne— holly willoughby go from here? is she forever— holly willoughby go from here? is she forever tainted by this seantat— is she forever tainted by this seantat e— is she forever tainted by this seantat e try— is she forever tainted by this scandal ? my next guest is scandal? my next guest is aerteetty— scandal? my next guest is perfectly qualified to answer all perfectly qualified to answer at at— perfectly qualified to answer all of these _ perfectly qualified to answer all of these questions . as all of these questions. as someone who— all of these questions. as someone who has worked in eamarate— someone who has worked in corporate governance and brand management— corporate governance and brand management .— corporate governance and brand management , as— corporate governance and brand management, as well as having teen— management, as well as having teen a— management, as well as having teen a major— management, as well as having been a major star— management, as well as having been a major star in daytime tv, eansemattve— been a major star in daytime tv, conservative mp— been a major star in daytime tv, conservative mp and gb news presenter— conservative mp and gb news presenter esther— conservative mp and gb news presenter esther mcvey. hi tstner— presenter esther mcvey. hi tstner .— presenter esther mcvey. hi esther. hello— presenter esther mcvey. hi esther . hello there, mark. esther. hello there, mark. great— esther. hello there, mark. ereat ta— esther. hello there, mark. great to see— esther. hello there, mark. great to see you - esther. hello there, mark. great to see you back- esther. hello there, mark. great to see you back on the box where you belong. esther, is the axe inevitable _ where you belong. esther, is the axe inevitable now— where you belong. esther, is the axe inevitable now for- ”cl g esther, is the axe inevitable now for this show 7 axe inevitable now for this show e watt.— axe inevitable now for this show e watt. t— axe inevitable now for this show e watt. t tan-t— axe inevitable now for this show ? well, i don't say— axe inevitable now for this show ? well, i don't say anything's inevitable just yet, but i have to say this drip, drip, drip of information is disaster. oestrus you were talking about reputation there. you're talking about who is going to feel the pain from what happens next. so what they have to do because itv now has become the story this morning has become this story. they've got to get ahead of the curve, something they haven't done. so what people are saying to me, there's no clear motty there. what actually is the

story? what did phil schofield do wrong? everybody keeps saying it was legal . who did? no. it was legal. who did? no. whatever happened. and they need to get clarity , get ahead of the to get clarity, get ahead of the story and start explaining what goes on. because what we're seeing at the moment is the fallout . and the fallout will be fallout. and the fallout will be the viewing figures , which have the viewing figures, which have dropped about million. dropped from about 1.3 million. they're down at 700,000, came back a little bit. that might be sort of ghoulish , wanting to sort of ghoulish, wanting to know what's going on. so you've had viewing figure fall out. you'll have share holder fallout you'll adverts pfizer's you'll have adverts pfizer's fallout and obviously what you're seeing now is guests wondering, do they want to wondering, well, do they want to be associated with this? you're seeing contributors questioning things, saying toxic environment . so they will have to be forensic . they're going to have forensic. they're going to have to be dispassion in a way and get to the bottom of what's gone on and that they haven't done so far. well, yes, let's not forget that rupert murdoch axed the news of the world, a very valuable brand because of phone

hacking. perhaps the schofield stary— hacking. perhaps the schofield stary ts— hacking. perhaps the schofield stary ts nat— hacking. perhaps the schofield stary ts nat an— hacking. perhaps the schofield story is not on the— f 3 perhaps the schofield story is not on the same scale, tnt— story is not on the same scale, tat tt— story is not on the same scale, tat tt ts— story is not on the same scale, but it is damaging. schofield ctearty— but it is damaging. schofield clearly toast— but it is damaging. schofield clearly toast now. esther but nnat— clearly toast now. esther but nnat atant— clearly toast now. esther but what about willoughby ? well what about willoughby? well aeaate— what about willoughby? well aeaate nit— what about willoughby? well people will want to know who who knew— people will want to know who who knew what, — people will want to know who who knew what, who— people will want to know who who knew what, who was— people will want to know who who knew what, who was covering up anat— knew what, who was covering up what, nna— knew what, who was covering up what, who turned— knew what, who was covering up what, who turned a— knew what, who was covering up what, who turned a blind eye to nnat— what, who turned a blind eye to mm tan,— what, who turned a blind eye to mm tan, at— what, who turned a blind eye to what now, at the— what, who turned a blind eye to what now, at the moment, philip senattett— what now, at the moment, philip schofield helped— what now, at the moment, philip schofield helped them all, nasn-t— schofield helped them all, nasn-t ne— schofield helped them all, nasn-t ne .— schofield helped them all, nasn-t ne , ty— schofield helped them all, hasn't he , by saying he was hasn't he, by saying he was teeetttnt— hasn't he, by saying he was teeetttnt .— hasn't he, by saying he was deceitful , he— hasn't he, by saying he was deceitful , he led them all deceitful, he led them all astray. — deceitful, he led them all astray. nat— deceitful, he led them all astray. but the- deceitful, he led them all astray. 3 i“ 3c deceitful, he led them all- astray. but the question will be rich would a reasonable person even have known what was going on and asked questions? and you've even heard our own gb news dan wootton saying he was asking questions back in 2019. other people were. and that's where this toxic environment you mentioned something and you seem to shuffled out . and to have been shuffled out. and what people need to remember and obviously, yes, i was in brand management and corporate governance , but i was in governance, but i was in politics, too. and what they do is is a story, you'll is if there is a story, you'll be called in and they'll say, what did you know? what honestly

did need to know did you know? we need to know about what's your phone about what's on your phone because video now. because there's video now. there's whatsapps, now there's photographs. now we do want photographs. now what we do want to in a few months time is to see in a few months time is more information coming out . so more information coming out. so you to level with us. i you have to level with us. i think that's maybe why philip schofield's management company think that's maybe why philip schthim, 's management company think that's maybe why philip schthim, because jement company think that's maybe why philip schthim, because heient company think that's maybe why philip schthim, because he didn'tmpany left him, because he didn't level with the story. maybe three years and that's what three years ago. and that's what itv isn't doing. and the longer it goes on, this sort of cross contamination, it won't stop just at this morning. it will move across to the brand and thatis move across to the brand and that is where you will see other people having to go and possibly early this morning going because they didn't nip it in the bud straight enough and they didn't get to the facts quick enough. and as you mentioned, news of the world, maybe murdoch was too quick but he didn't want quick there, but he didn't want that contamination to the rest of his empire. i think you're rtgnt. — of his empire. i think you're rtgnt. t— of his empire. i think you're rtgnt. ttntnt— of his empire. i think you're right. ithink it— of his empire. i think you're right. i think it was- of his empire. i think you're right. i think it was a- " tzi; ”c: i think you're right. i think it was a hasty teetstan— right. i think it was a hasty decision on— right. i think it was a hasty decision on his— right. i think it was a hasty decision on his part. and one tnat— decision on his part. and one tnat aernaas— decision on his part. and one that perhaps he— decision on his part. and one that perhaps he regrets. but let me warn you, esther , loaded me warn you, esther, loaded gnesttan— me warn you, esther, loaded gnesttan tn— me warn you, esther, loaded question in coming . do you

question in coming. do you agave,— question in coming. do you believe, holly— question in coming. do you believe, holly willoughby, when she believe, holly willoughby, when sne says— believe, holly willoughby, when sne says sne— believe, holly willoughby, when she says she. no— believe, holly willoughby, when she says she. no knew nothing ant— she says she. no knew nothing ant mans— she says she. no knew nothing and knows nothing of this sttnattan— and knows nothing of this situation ? _ and knows nothing of this situation ? oh,- and knows nothing of this situation ? o" situation? oh, look, i think that's a tough one. i wouldn't want to call anybody because what you're saying there, if i don't believe her, i'm calling her a liar. well, i'm not saying that at all. but the i guess the legal question would be, was it reasonable not to have known ? reasonable not to have known? maybe have been more maybe could you have been more curious? but aren't me curious? but those aren't for me . for her. her . that will be for her. her agent , the itv to question her agent, the itv to question her about now she's off air for a penod about now she's off air for a period of time now, and i guess she'll be going through all that and she'll probably have to herself. question will, what did i know? and i guess that's what she's doing. yes well, look, a very— she's doing. yes well, look, a very diplomatic— t3tit g v/tziiti well, look, a very diplomatic answer as expected,— very diplomatic answer as expected, esther , let me give expected, esther, let me give you— expected, esther, let me give yan a— expected, esther, let me give you a statement— expected, esther, let me give you a statement from former this mamtng— you a statement from former this marntng star— you a statement from former this morning star ranj_ you a statement from former this morning star ranj singh, who spate— morning star ranj singh, who spate ant— morning star ranj singh, who spoke out today— morning star ranj singh, who spoke out today .— morning star ranj singh, who spoke out today . he morning star ranj singh, who spoke out today. he said, morning star ranj singh, who spoke out today . he said, over spoke out today. he said, over gag,— spoke out today. he said, over gag, t— spoke out today. he said, over gag, t gren— spoke out today. he said, over time, i grew increasingly named— time, i grew increasingly worried about- time, i grew increasingly worried about things behind the scenes and how— worried about things behind the scenes and how people , including scenes and how people, including mysett—

scenes and how people, including myggg, wee— scenes and how people, including myself, were being— scenes and how people, including myself, were being treated . i myself, were being treated. i tram-t— myself, were being treated. i tttn-t tnaw— myself, were being treated. i didn't know the _ myself, were being treated. i didn't know the truth about what was didn't know the truth about what gatng— didn't know the truth about what gatng an— didn't know the truth about what was going on with— didn't know the truth about what was going on with philip, but i do was going on with philip, but i ta tnaw— was going on with philip, but i ta tnaw tne— was going on with philip, but i do know the issues with this mamtng— do know the issues with this marntng ga— do know the issues with this marntng ga tar— do know the issues with this morning go far beyond him. i rett— morning go far beyond him. i tett twe— morning go far beyond him. i felt like because— morning go far beyond him. i felt like because i whistle ttew— felt like because i whistle ttew t— felt like because i whistle ttew t was— felt like because i whistle blew, i was managed out. but as ntstary— blew, i was managed out. but as ntstary ant— blew, i was managed out. but as history and experience have tawgnt— history and experience have tawgnt as— history and experience have taught us things like bullying and discrimination are very hard to and discrimination are very hard ta nae— and discrimination are very hard to prove, particularly in ntntstgnt— to prove, particularly in ntntstgnt .— to prove, particularly in hindsight . and when the people hindsight. and when the people in hindsight. and when the people tn aawer— hindsight. and when the people in power control— hindsight. and when the people in power control the narrative of, as— in power control the narrative of, as we've seen— in power control the narrative of, as we've seen now , no review of, as we've seen now, no review or of, as we've seen now, no review at tnwesttgattan— of, as we've seen now, no review or investigation is— of, as we've seen now, no review or investigation is foolproof. waw— or investigation is foolproof. waw tstnen— or investigation is foolproof. now esther, you— or investigation is foolproof. now esther, you have been an expen— now esther, you have been an expert tn— now esther, you have been an expert in brand— now esther, you have been an expert in brand management and tarant— expert in brand management and brand reeawe.ry— expert in brand management and brand recovery. when there's a seantat— brand recovery. when there's a seantat gatng— brand recovery. when there's a scandal going on,— brand recovery. when there's a scandal going on, what about the damage— scandal going on, what about the tamage ta— scandal going on, what about the tamage ta ttv— scandal going on, what about the damage to itv long term ? well damage to itv long term? well i tntnt— damage to itv long term? well i tntnt wnat— damage to itv long term? well i think what ranj_ damage to itv long term? well i think what ranj said there is tamagtng— think what ranj said there is tamagtng .— think what ranj said there is damaging, isn't— think what ranj said there is damaging, isn't it, because he is damaging, isn't it, because he ts saytng— damaging, isn't it, because he ts saytng tnere— damaging, isn't it, because he is saying there was a culture were— is saying there was a culture tnere . — is saying there was a culture there . above— is saying there was a culture there . above and- is saying there was a culture there . ' is saying there was a culture- there . above and beyond that he there. above and beyond that he couldn't get to the bottom two and things were overlooked . and and things were overlooked. and this and this is what i talked about, the drip, drip, other people are coming forward with other stories and they've got to

get ahead of that. and that will mean who did he go to? who didn't provide that support? why wasn't that support provided? and that could go right up the ranks. so this is why i'm saying it's gone on now for a considerably long period of time . you know what they say about politicians? if you're making the news for seven days, you've invariably gone well. itv need to look at this as well. and all of those responsible . and what of those responsible. and what sort of environment have they got for people to come forward? whistleblowers and others. do people feel confident they're is there a proper protection of people who work there? and that's what they'll be looking at really. i think they're mtsstng— at really. i think they're mtsstng yaw— at really. i think they're missing you in- ”tiring i think they're missing you in the boardroom. tstner— missing you in the boardroom. tstner wean— missing you in the boardroom. tstner wean .— missing you in the boardroom. esther yeah , i— missing you in the boardroom. esther yeah , i think they're esther yeah, i think they're mtsstng— esther yeah, i think they're mtsstng yaw— esther yeah, i think they're missing your wisdom in that taartraam— missing your wisdom in that taartraam. t— missing your wisdom in that boardroom. i think there are grave— boardroom. i think there are grave concerns— boardroom. i think there are grave concerns about the quality of grave concerns about the quality at teatersnta— grave concerns about the quality of leadership at— grave concerns about the quality of leadership at top . of leadership at the top. notwithstanding schofield's tetawtawn— notwithstanding schofield's behaviour. now here on gb news, as yaw— behaviour. now here on gb news, as yaw wart— behaviour. now here on gb news, as you work with— behaviour. now here on gb news, as you work with a— behaviour. now here on gb news, as you work with a philip as wett— as you work with a philip as

wet, tan-t— as you work with a philip as well, don't you?— as you work with a philip as well, don't you? but you got a gaat— well, don't you? but you got a gaat — well, don't you? but you got a gaat ves— well, don't you? but you got a good one. yes. his- well, don't you? but you got a good one. “tit: well, don't you? but you got a good one. v/tzin; good one. yes. his name is surname is davis. philip davis , surname is davis. philip davis, my husband. what can i tell you ? i can only tell you good things about him. but don't you think incriminating evidence? what's up? messages and photos i love. well, exactly right. i mean, you could- well, exactly right. i mean, you could take him down all mean, you could take him down at me— mean, you could take him down at tne way. — mean, you could take him down all the way. what— mean, you could take him down all the way. what i— mean, you could take him down all the way. what i love about yaw— all the way. what i love about yaw snaw— all the way. what i love about yawr snaw ts— all the way. what i love about your show is that— all the way. what i love about your show is that it's real. onwawsty— your show is that it's real. obviously, you— your show is that it's real. obviously, you have chemistry teeawse— obviously, you have chemistry tease yan— obviously, you have chemistry because you love— obviously, you have chemistry because you love the guy and ms— because you love the guy and ms yaw— because you love the guy and he's your husband . but do you he's your husband. but do you see a contrast— he's your husband. but do you see a contrast now— he's your husband. but do you see a contrast now between the mnt— see a contrast now between the ttnt at— see a contrast now between the ttnt at snaws— see a contrast now between the kind of shows that— see a contrast now between the kind of shows that we try to do on kind of shows that we try to do an en— kind of shows that we try to do an en wews— kind of shows that we try to do on gb news, where what you see is on gb news, where what you see ts wnat— on gb news, where what you see ts wnat yan— on gb news, where what you see ts wnat yaw gett— on gb news, where what you see is what you get? there's no bs, tnere-s— is what you get? there's no bs, tnere-s na— is what you get? there's no bs, there's no smoke— is what you get? there's no bs, there's no smoke and mirrors a tat— there's no smoke and mirrors versus a lot establishment versus a lot of establishment metta— versus a lot of establishment media programs— versus a lot of establishment media programs this morning media programs like this morning wnere— media programs like this morning wnere natty— media programs like this morning where holly and— media programs like this morning where holly and phil went on air two where holly and phil went on air twa weeks— where holly and phil went on air twa weets aga— where holly and phil went on air two weeks ago and— where holly and phil went on air two weeks ago and pretended like natntng— two weeks ago and pretended like natntng nat— two weeks ago and pretended like nothing had happened . well you nothing had happened. well you see authenticity— nothing had happened. well you see authenticity is— nothing had happened. well you see authenticity is key . ' t: see authenticity is key. and i tttnt— see authenticity is key. and i tttnt tna— see authenticity is key. and i think the viewers can sniff that a mile off. hence you saw the viewing figures going down, down, down. it's like they could

sense what was going on, the friction or what have you. sometimes friction is good and people for a little people will watch for a little bit but no, what we do bit longer. but no, what we do have you is that the have, you know, is that the authenticity and equally we say everything in a way is fair game. we're happy to talk about everything and all sides of an argument . um, and everything and all sides of an argument. um, and i think everything and all sides of an argument . um, and i think that argument. um, and i think that is the future of tv because like i say, you can be caught out in too many different ways, can't you? photos, videos, chat, what other people knew, which is sort of what's rumbling out here. well, look, esther, thank you well, look, esther,dthank you so well, look, esther, thank you so must— well, look, esther, thank you so must tar— well, look, esther, thank you so must tar gtwng— well, look, esther, thank you so much for giving up your valuable ttme— much for giving up your valuable ttme an— much for giving up your valuable ttme an a— much for giving up your valuable time on a sunday— much for giving up your valuable time on a sunday night to join us. time on a sunday night to join tstner— time on a sunday night to join us. esther and— time on a sunday night to join us. esther and phil have a massive army— us. esther and phil have a massive army of fans on their snaw— massive army of fans on their snaw-trttay— massive army of fans on their show friday saturday. show every friday and saturday. ten show every friday and saturday. ten tttt— show every friday and saturday. ten ttttltn— show every friday and saturday. ten till in morning. ten till 12 in the morning. cneet— ten till 12 in the morning. cneetlant. — ten till 12 in the morning. checklout. it's- ten till 12 in the morning. check out. it's brilliant check it out. it's brilliant stutt- — check it out. it's brilliant stutt- can— check it out. it's brilliant stuff. can i— check it out. it's brilliant stuff. can i say- check it out. it's brilliant stuff. cr?" “q7 check it out. it's brilliant- stuff. can i say one thing? we go to bed with you. we listen to you . is it is go to bed with you. we listen to you. is it is it a three way relationship?— you. is it is it a three way relationship? rip- is it is it a three way relationship? rip it is . relationship? rip it is. as you do relationship? rip it is. as you ta tna— relationship? rip it is. as you do the newspaper headlines . yes. do the newspaper headlines. yes. well, listen , i'm happy to share

well, listen, i'm happy to share a bed with both of you any time. well, that's a great privilege, a great— well, that's a great privilege, a great honour.— well, that's a great privilege, a great honour. my thanks to the trttttant— a great honour. my thanks to the brilliant esther— a great honour. my thanks to the brilliant esther mcvey esther ant— brilliant esther mcvey esther ant tnt— brilliant esther mcvey esther and phil back— brilliant esther mcvey esther and phil back on friday at reset.— and phil back on friday at 10:00. thank— and phil back on friday at 10:00. thank you, esther. coming up 10:00. thank you, esther. coming nt-tne— 10:00. thank you, esther. coming nt-tne tnnttts- 10:00. thank you, esther. coming up the pundits, should 10:00. thank you, esther. coming up sunak the pundits, should 10:00. thank you, esther. coming up sunak cape pundits, should 10:00. thank you, esther. coming up sunak cap food dits, should 10:00. thank you, esther. coming up sunak cap food prices?)uld 10:00. thank you, esther. coming up sunak cap food prices? isd rishi sunak cap food prices? is it rishi sunak cap food prices? is tt aesettatte— rishi sunak cap food prices? is it acceptable to— rishi sunak cap food prices? is it acceptable to shout out f the rates— it acceptable to shout out f the tartes ant— it acceptable to shout out f the tories and should— it acceptable to shout out f the tories and should under sixteens atways— tories and should under sixteens atways te— tories and should under sixteens always be accompanied by an atntt— always be accompanied by an atntt tn— always be accompanied by an atntt tn a— always be accompanied by an adult in a shopping centre? all of adult in a shopping centre? all at tnat—

we're proud to be gb news the people's channel. britain's news . cnannet — people's channel. britain's news . channel well,— people's channel. britain's news . channel well, picking up on the holly willoughby debate. so we've been asking you online, do you believe that holly willoughby, when she said that she knew nothing of schofield's behaviour ? and i think we might behaviour? and i think we might have the results of that now ready to go, but it's 88, 88% say no, they don't believe her. 12% say yes. we'll just show you that graphic in a moment whilst we're getting that up and running. the subject of my big opinion was sir keir starmer, who wants to get rid of gas and

oil licences , his for future oil licences, his for future explorations , which i think will explorations, which i think will expose to us monsters like putin in a future energy emergency. clive says, mark, you can take the so—called climate emergency and net zero and stick it where the sun doesn't shine along with the sun doesn't shine along with the rest of the left wing who can get stuffed. blimey. strong views there. i'll never stop riding my motorcycles, drinking and smoking. well, clive, i've got to say, you do sound like good company. mark at gb news .uk keir starmer. ian says hi. mark i really don't understand why your pundits think there is a climate crisis. there's no evidence that there is. in fact a number of lives lost to flooding and other extreme weather events. is lower now than ever has been. the earth than it ever has been. the earth is now than it was 10,000 is cooler now than it was 10,000 years ago. this climate change nonsense purely political and nonsense is purely political and without evidence . without scientific evidence. look, as i mentioned in my big opinion earlier here, there are

lots of views. and i just don't want to make the same mistake as the pandemic where we say , hey, the pandemic where we say, hey, the pandemic where we say, hey, the science is settled, where there's one narrative, let's hear from all voices. there's one narrative, let's hear from all voices . keep yours hear from all voices. keep yours coming. mark at gb news dot com. and here are the results of that poll. it's an explosive question, i've got to say. the team and i deliberated whether we should be asking, but i think it's what talking it's what people are talking about down the pub. do you believe, holly willoughby, the vast majority the british vast majority of the british pubuc vast majority of the british public do not. 87.9 no, i don't. 12.1. yes, i do . so reacting to 12.1. yes, i do. so reacting to the big stories of the day, my top pundits tonight, hilary freeman, john sergeant and linda jubilee. now the government is discussing plans for supermarkets to introduce a cap on basic food items. major retailers could see a reduction in prices for items such as bread and milk in a bid to tackle the cost of living crisis. so should sunak cap food pnces crisis. so should sunak cap food prices. linda no , now it's not

prices. linda no, now it's not tnat— prices. linda no, now it's not tnat t— prices. linda no, now it's not tnat t tan-t— prices. linda no, now it's not that i don't have— prices. linda no, now it's not that i don't have a— f linda no, now it's not that i don't have a great deal of that i don't have a great deal at symaatny— that i don't have a great deal at symaatny tar— that i don't have a great deal of sympathy for people who are reatty— of sympathy for people who are really suffering _ of sympathy for people who are really suffering because of the ante— really suffering because of the game sgweee— really suffering because of the price squeeze. i— really suffering because of the price squeeze. i do. inflation twe— price squeeze. i do. inflation ttte tnts— price squeeze. i do. inflation ttte tnts ts— price squeeze. i do. inflation like this is a— price squeeze. i do. inflation like this is a pernicious thing ant— like this is a pernicious thing ant tt-s— like this is a pernicious thing ant tt-s very,— like this is a pernicious thing and it's very, very destructive. samettmes— and it's very, very destructive. samettmes t— and it's very, very destructive. sometimes i think it's a bit twe— sometimes i think it's a bit ttte a— sometimes i think it's a bit ttte a taa— sometimes i think it's a bit like a boa constrictor, and the yan— like a boa constrictor, and the yaw try— like a boa constrictor, and the more you try and— like a boa constrictor, and the more you try and wriggle, the ttgnter— more you try and wriggle, the ttgnter tt— more you try and wriggle, the ttgnter tt gets— more you try and wriggle, the tighter it gets .— more you try and wriggle, the tighter it gets . it— more you try and wriggle, the tighter it gets . it gets a grip tighter it gets. it gets a grip ant— tighter it gets. it gets a grip ant tt— tighter it gets. it gets a grip ant tt wan-t— tighter it gets. it gets a grip and it won't go— tighter it gets. it gets a grip and it won't go away. but the tast— and it won't go away. but the taet at— and it won't go away. but the taet at me— and it won't go away. but the fact of the matter— and it won't go away. but the fact of the matter is, if you tnterwene— fact of the matter is, if you intervene in— fact of the matter is, if you intervene in this- fact of the matter is, if you intervene in this way you intervene in this way and you stan— intervene in this way and you stan ta— intervene in this way and you start to destroy— intervene in this way and you start to destroy free market economics, there's always a trattem — economics, there's always a trattem .— economics, there's always a arattem . ttm— economics, there's always a problem . um, once you hit problem. um, once you hit a supply— problem. um, once you hit a simply-demand- problem. um, once you hit a supply demand side, you've supply and demand side, you've atways— supply and demand side, you've atways gat— supply and demand side, you've atways gat a— supply and demand side, you've always got a problem. you risk job always got a problem. you risk tat-at— always got a problem. you risk job at supermarkets . you job losses at supermarkets. you wtsn— job losses at supermarkets. you wtsn-rtst— job losses at supermarkets. you wtsn-rtst .— job losses at supermarkets. you wish-risk , for— job losses at supermarkets. you wish risk , for example, wish you risk, for example, narmtng— wish you risk, for example, narmtng tne— wish you risk, for example, harming the farmers. you risk tnwestment,— harming the farmers. you risk investment, you— harming the farmers. you risk investment, you risk all sorts of investment, you risk all sorts at mettnm— investment, you risk all sorts of medium, long— investment, you risk all sorts of medium, long term entrenched trattems— of medium, long term entrenched arattems ty— of medium, long term entrenched problems by putting a cap on taat— problems by putting a cap on taat anaes— problems by putting a cap on taat artees .— problems by putting a cap on food prices . and— problems by putting a cap on food prices . and then you've got food prices. and then you've got the food prices. and then you've got tne actuat— food prices. and then you've got the actual logistics— food prices. and then you've got the actual logistics l position of the actual logistics l position at taw— the actual logistics l position at naw yan— the actual logistics l position of how you would make it work . of how you would make it work. for of how you would make it work. tar examine,— of how you would make it work. for example, what— of how you would make it work. for example, what would the key tratnets— for example, what would the key aratnets tee— for example, what would the key products be? what— for example, what would the key products be? what would you do wnen— products be? what would you do wnen yae— products be? what would you do wnen ye gat— products be? what would you do when you've got something like eggs,— when you've got something like eggs, wnen— when you've got something like eggs, when there's just vast eggs, when there's just a vast range— eggs, when there's just a vast range-watta- eggs, when there's just a vast range would make eggs, when there's just a vast. range -would-make it range? how would you make it wart— range? how would you make it wart an— range? how would you make it wart an we— range? how would you make it work on the ground? it's very

tttttentt— work on the ground? it's very difficult and— work on the ground? it's very difficult and i— work on the ground? it's very difficult and i don't really understand— difficult and i don't really understand or— difficult and i don't really understand or believe that someone like— understand or believe that someone like rishi sunak, who is ayat— someone like rishi sunak, who is ayan tnaw— someone like rishi sunak, who is ayaw tnaw nas— someone like rishi sunak, who is a you know, has a— someone like rishi sunak, who is a you know, has a first class degree— a you know, has a first class tegree tn— a you know, has a first class degree in ppe,_ a you know, has a first class degree in ppe, who was a good eanamst— degree in ppe, who was a good economist, will— degree in ppe, who was a good economist, will possibly go down this economist, will possibly go down we natn— economist, will possibly go down we tatn at— economist, will possibly go down this path of price— economist, will possibly go down this path of price capping. i t— this path of price capping. i t tate— this path of price capping. i mean, i hope he— this path of price capping. i mean, i hope he doesn't because i mean, i hope he doesn't because ttntnt— mean, i hope he doesn't because ttntnt tnat-s— mean, i hope he doesn't because i think that's g— mean, i hope he doesn't because i think that's a political teetstan— i think that's a political decision and— i think that's a political decision and not an economic. wett— decision and not an economic. wett tt-s— decision and not an economic. well it's communism lite. ' 3 well it's communism lite. and we've seen the— well it's communism lite. and we've seen the failure- well it's communism lite. and we've seen the failure of rent controls in cities like new york, which mayor khan, of course, london. so course, wants in london. so i think your words are wise. but let's move on now to the issue of political discourse, because labour mp charlotte nichols has praised the festival chantf labour mp charlotte nichols has praised the festival chant f the tories on twitter. she was at a concert and there were people literally chanting that this is a family show, as you know, apart from when i read emails and that's what was being chanted . f the tories f the chanted. f the tories f the tories . she tweeted, i love to tories. she tweeted, i love to see it. and this was at the neighbourhood weekend event. so is it acceptable to shout f the tories what do you think? hilary freeman yes, it's acceptable to

shout it. it's free speech. free steeene— shout it. it's free speech. free street? team— shout it. it's free speech. free speech? yeah. it's— c it's free speech. free speech? yeah. it's acceptable to snant— speech? yeah. it's acceptable to shout whatever— speech? yeah. it's acceptable to shout whatever you want to snant. — shout whatever you want to snant. t— shout whatever you want to shout. i don't— shout whatever you want to shout. i don't think i think tt-s— shout. i don't think i think tt-s tast— shout. i don't think i think it's lost its— shout. i don't think i think it's lost its power. i think tnat— it's lost its power. i think tnat wart— it's lost its power. i think that word means nothing now. and i that word means nothing now. and t tntnt— that word means nothing now. and t tntnt t— that word means nothing now. and i think i actually— that word means nothing now. and i think i actually looked this up i think i actually looked this at tetare. — i think i actually looked this up before-many- i think i actually looked this up before. many people up before. how many people have stated— up before. how many people have snantet—e— up before. how many people have snantet—e ant- up before. how many people have shouted_? and it's- shouted that phrase? and it's ewerytaty— shouted that phrase? and it's ewerytaty-tan- shouted that phrase? and it's everybody jon snow. the everybody from jon snow. the manner— everybody from jon snow. the cnannet t— everybody from jon snow. the channel 4 news— everybody from jon snow. the channel 4 news presenter yeah . channel 4 news presenter yeah. to channel 4 news presenter yeah. ta tne— channel 4 news presenter yeah. ta tne tant. — channel 4 news presenter yeah. to the band. not— channel 4 news presenter yeah. to the band. not as good as rann. — to the band. not as good as john. sergeant,— to the band. not as good as john. sergeant, by- to the band. not as good as john. 3 of john. sergeant, by the way. of course to the band— john. sergeant, by the way. of course to the band wet- john. 3 of course to the band wet leg to i tntnt— course to the band wet leg to i tntnt yan— course to the band wet leg to i think you pronounce it. lucien tawtseannt— think you pronounce it. lucien tawseannt. t— think you pronounce it. lucien laviscount. i don't— think you pronounce it. lucien laviscount. i don't know how you aranannee n,— laviscount. i don't know how you pronounce it, but— laviscount. i don't know how you pronounce it, but it's just, you tnaw— pronounce it, but it's just, you tnaw yan— pronounce it, but it's just, you tnaw, yaw awt— pronounce it, but it's just, you know, you put that phrase in and it know, you put that phrase in and t taesn-t— know, you put that phrase in and it doesn't mean— know, you put that phrase in and it doesn't mean anything. it's tast— it doesn't mean anything. it's tast rts— it doesn't mean anything. it's lost its power. _ it doesn't mean anything. it's lost its power. and i think, you tnaw— lost its power. and i think, you know,ihonestly_ lost its power. and i think, you know, honestly don't it's sort know, i honestly don't it's sort of know, i honestly don't it's sort at tt-s— know, i honestly don't it's sort at tt-s trytng— know, i honestly don't it's sort at tt-s trytng ta— know, i honestly don't it's sort of it's trying to be— know, i honestly don't it's sort of it's trying to be cool. i tttnt— of it's trying to be cool. i think. well,— of it's trying to be cool. i think. well, i'm- of it's trying to be cool. i think. well, i'm a free speech atsatwttst. — think. well, i'm a free speech absolutist. shout- think. well, i'm a free speech absolutist. shout whatever you like. absolutely. i can't bear this notion of hate speech because that's so subjective. however. well a member of parliament. well, yeah, if you incite, let's say , you know, the incite, let's say, you know, the breaking of the law, racism, absolutely not. but it's the labour mp who praises this, but

these would be the same mps who talk about trolling online and how unsafe it is to be a member of parliament these days. well, yes. idon't of parliament these days. well, yes. i don't think that an mp snawtt— yes. i don't think that an mp snawtt te— «tilt? i don't think that an mp should be praising this. i think gag,— should be praising this. i think tnat, yaw— should be praising this. i think that, you know,— should be praising this. i think that, you know, they have to tney-we — that, you know, they have to tney-we gat— that, you know, they have to they've got think about what they've got to think about what is they've got to think about what ts-ratner— they've got to think about what is-rather than— they've got to think about what is rather than what makes is right rather than what makes tnem — is right rather than what makes tnem taat— is right rather than what makes them look popular. think them look popular. and i think gwtte— them look popular. and i think gwtte-seems- them look popular. and i think gwtte-seemslgal them look popular. and i thinki quite-seemslgo by quite often that seems to go by the quite often that seems to go by tne waystte— quite often that seems to go by the wayside now.— quite often that seems to go by the wayside now. yeah. linda you -an tnts— the wayside now. yeah. linda you seem -on this one. - the wayside now. yeah. linda you seem-on this one. i- the wayside now. yeah. linda you seem on this one. seem vexed on this one. i think eweane-sry gat— seem vexed on this one. i think everyone's got to get away from this kind of inflammatory speech. it isn't helping anyone at all. what we really like to hear about is some kind of observation or an insight or lift the lid. well, in the old days— lift the lid. well, in the old tays we— lift the lid. well, in the old tays we met— lift the lid. well, in the old days we used to— c c 3 well, in the old days we used to shout, i ttsagree— days we used to shout, i disagree with— days we used to shout, i disagree with you, didn't we? teat. — disagree with you, didn't we? teat. vawre— disagree with you, didn't we? / v/rzir 3 and disagree with you, didn't we? tv/tziutit" v/rzir ”c: 3 and your yeah. you're wrong. and your argwments— yeah. you're wrong. and your argwments . — yeah. you're wrong. and your arguments. yeah. yeah. you're wrong. and your arguments . yeah. oh, try yeah. you're wrong. and your arguments. yeah. oh, try forming an argument. how about that? isn't that a novel idea? try forming a this is a c 37 try forming a this is a worry, isn't it? forming a this is a worry, isn't tte rte— forming a this is a worry, isn't it? the demonisation of any tatttteat— it? the demonisation of any political group— it? the demonisation of any political group ? “tit: political group? yes. i just tttnt— political group? yes. i just think it's lazy and it's pointless in terms of political discussion . and when you're discussion. and when you're young , it's wonderful to have

young, it's wonderful to have someone politically, if it's got an obscenity in it, because you just think, oh, that means i'm sort of grown up now because i and also i think what's interesting is the way that the person involved that we're talking about said how pleased she satisfied. well she was and satisfied. well that's pathetic. that's in a deep sense, pathetic , isn't it? deep sense, pathetic, isn't it? because of course , what you're because of course, what you're really trying to do not sort really trying to do is not sort of if they if we didn't have the tories there, could this, tories there, we could do this, that and the other and wouldn't it be so much better if they could to on that part of could move to on that part of the argument instead of just simply emoting. but that is it's one frankly, one of the problems of frankly, social the of social media and all the rest of it. people think they should shout out something which will carry emotional force , which carry emotional force, which they then regard as being an argument. that's what's so creepy. listen, argument. that's what's so creepy . listen, stop being so creepy. listen, stop being so tataneet. — creepy. listen, stop being so balanced. this— creepy. listen, stop being so balanced. this is— {0337th listen, stop being so balanced. this is gb news, tt.”t:i;t:ifig listen, stop being so balanced. this is gb news, who's yae— balanced. this is gb news, who's yaw teen— balanced. this is gb news, who's you've been practising that tntng— you've been practising that an... rtgnte — you've been practising that thing, right? gait” you've been practising that thing, right? gtit g you've been practising that thing, right? gniit"" cgtit cg thing, right? john's going to come on and i'm going to i'm going to make sure he's not allowed to be sensible. yeah, that's exactly right. he's got to blurt out something stupid to

tell what you really think, tell me what you really think, which you do at 3 or 4 which you couldn't do at 3 or 4 decades is this a decades at the beeb is this a problem the left? we know the problem of the left? we know the right problem of the left? we know the rtgnt nave— problem of the left? we know the right have issues.— problem of the left? we know the right have issues. okay,- ctzii�*"c7 we know the right have issues. okay, but ctif"c7 we know the right have issues. okay, but is tnts— right have issues. okay, but is we ttnt— right have issues. okay, but is we ttnt at— right have issues. okay, but is this kind of toxic— right have issues. okay, but is this kind of toxic language wntgwe— this kind of toxic language wntgwe ta— this kind of toxic language unique to the— this kind of toxic language unique to the left? and was it ever-ot— unique to the left? and was it ever-ot-na. - unique to the left? and was it- ever-oh-no. -ab0ut ever thus? oh no, no. what about you? someone used the same word. he called boris johnson. he he was called boris johnson. he was minister, if you was prime minister, if you remember. he used the same remember. and he used the same word about business. do you remember business? fair remember business? yes. fair point. , i think point. so, you know, i think we've got you there. so just just me over a barrel . you just got me over a barrel. you got to get up just got me over a barrel. you got to get up pretty- tcgtit you got to get up pretty early in me— got to get up pretty early in tne marntng— got to get up pretty early in the morning to— got to get up pretty early in the morning to beat john. sergeant— the morning to beat john. sergeant last— the morning to beat john. sergeant last but not least for tnts— sergeant last but not least for tnts-a— sergeant last but not least for tnts-a snatttng- sergeant last but not least for this a shopping centre this section, a shopping centre in this section, a shopping centre tn—entttrenl this section, a shopping centre. in _children under in bromley banned children under the in bromley banned children under tne-wttnawt— in bromley banned children under the-without.adult.. the age of 16 without an adult. tnat-s— the age of 16 without an adult. tnat-s rtgnt— the age of 16 without an adult. tnat-s rtgnt .— the age of 16 without an adult. that's right. no,— the age of 16 without an adult. that's right. no, under 16 wttnawt— that's right. no, under 16 wttnawt an— that's right. no, under 16 without an adult . after a fight without an adult. after a fight trate— without an adult. after a fight trate awt— without an adult. after a fight trate awt a— without an adult. after a fight broke out a few— without an adult. after a fight broke out a few months ago, it regwestet— broke out a few months ago, it was requested that children snawtt— should be accompanied by a parent— should be accompanied by a parent ar— should be accompanied by a parent or guardian, especially tnase— parent or guardian, especially those troublesome teenagers. so wnat— those troublesome teenagers. so wnat ta— those troublesome teenagers. so wnat ta we— those troublesome teenagers. so what do we think?— those troublesome teenagers. so what do we think? is this a good natty— what do we think? is this a good aattey e— what do we think? is this a good aattey etnt— what do we think? is this a good aattey ertnt are— what do we think? is this a good policy ? and are young people a policy? and are young people a menace? when— policy? and are young people a menace? when you're out doing yawn— menace? when you're out doing your shoming?— menace? when you're out doing your shopping? john in waitrose, no, your shopping? john in waitrose, wa, tney-re— your shopping? john in waitrose, wa, tney-re nat. — your shopping? john in waitrose, no, they're not. "tigt no, they're not. they obviously . no. the thing about we don't

know much about the detail of this story because there's this shopping centre in bromley where they're doing this, but it seems that all sorts of questions arise . what are the police think arise. what are the police think about all this? i know some of them were injured in the original. why didn't they know more about it? why aren't there more about it? why aren't there more surveillance cameras? why more about it? why aren't there more tthey?.lance cameras? why more about it? why aren't there more they? whyz cameras? why more about it? why aren't there more they? why isn'tieras? why more about it? why aren't there more they? why isn't there why aren't they? why isn't there more and in bromley? more law and order in bromley? bromley isn't some strange sort of weird part of the world decent , advantaged every term? decent, advantaged every term? no, it's not. it's not calcutta. so? so you just feel. wait a moment. we're talking about our old friend incompetence, aren't we? we're talking about our old friend. incompetence the people running the place or don't seem to be able to control it. the cops may be not doing- c the cops may be not doing their job, but cops may be not doing their job, twt mayte— cops may be not doing their job, twt mayte tney— cops may be not doing their job, but maybe they are. but they stawtt— but maybe they are. but they should be in touch with them. i mean, everyone in bromley should think quite think this is actually quite a comment us, whether it's comment on us, not whether it's a good idea. it's obviously a daft idea. well i've got i've got you're over 16, i've got older. you have a parent. yeah. i've got older viewers- older. you have a parent. yeah. i've got older viewers and- i've got older viewers and ttsteners— i've got older viewers and listeners-feel- i've got older viewers and listeners feel quite listeners who feel quite threatened _ listeners who feel quite threatened teenagers

threatened by teenagers when tney— threatened by teenagers when tney-nttary— threatened by teenagers when tney-nttary-tnel they go out. hilary well, the trattem — they go out. hilary well, thei problem _haven't they go out. hilary well, the- problem _haven't got problem is teenagers haven't got anywnere— problem is teenagers haven't got anywnere-ga— problem is teenagers haven't got anywhere go anymore, anywhere else to go anymore, nave— anywhere else to go anymore, nave-ttey-we- anywhere else to go anymore, have _they've closed l anywhere else to go anymore,- have _they've closed down have they? they've closed down the there's no the youth clubs. there's no playing there's no playing fields, there's no sports clubs. you know, everything's gone so what are they hang they supposed to do? they hang around shopping centres and i think had discussion think i had this discussion with lars podcast at the on lars my, my co podcast at the on your brilliant podcast and actually i think more community police officers could help matters and they're not they're not conventional policemen and they have a less adversarial relationship with the public. but that's what you want a great great— but that's what you want a great great snawt— but that's what you want a great great snawt my— but that's what you want a great great shout my kids go to a very gaat— great shout my kids go to a very gaat taeat— great shout my kids go to a very good local state— great shout my kids go to a very good local state comprehensive ant— good local state comprehensive ant tnere— good local state comprehensive ant tnere are— good local state comprehensive and there are cops— good local state comprehensive and there are cops at sainsbury's- and there are cops at sainsbury's and it's a good tntng— sainsbury's and it's a good thing because— sainsbury's and it's a good thing because they're a bunch of ttttte— thing because they're a bunch of little scrotes_ thing because they're a bunch of little scrotes in— thing because they're a bunch of little scrotes in that school. tet— little scrotes in that school. tet me— little scrotes in that school. tet me tett— little scrotes in that school. let me tell you,— little scrotes in that school. let me tell you, especially the little dolans you can imagine, can't you? it's terrifying if you— can't you? it's terrifying if yaw stat— can't you? it's terrifying if yaw stat tras— cit" c gtit7 it's terrifying if you stop kids going to shopping . tnt— you stop kids going to shopping . ant wnen— you stop kids going to shopping . ant wnen t— you stop kids going to shopping . and when i was— you stop kids going to shopping . and when i was a teenager going— . and when i was a teenager going showing— . and when i was a teenager going shopping with my friends was one our favourite things was one of our favourite things to was one of our favourite things ta ta. — was one of our favourite things ta ta. taw— was one of our favourite things to do. you know,— was one of our favourite things to do. you know, if— was one of our favourite things to do. you know, if you stop tnem — to do. you know, if you stop tnem ant— to do. you know, if you stop them and-into- to do. you know, if you stop them and into into retail them and go into into retail awttets— them and go into into retail outlets, that's— them and go into into retail outlets, that's just going to trtwe—tne i outlets, that's just going to- drive _the internet. drive them more to the internet. ant— drive them more to the internet. ant tnen — drive them more to the internet. and then there— drive them more to the internet. and then there _to - drive them more to the internet. and then there to be and then there are going to be no and then there are going to be na snags—

and then there are going to be na snags-ts— and then there are going to be no shops,-is also- and then there are going to be no shops, is also they're and then there are going to be no rcustomers is also they're and then there are going to be no rcustomers of s also they're and then there are going to be no rcustomers of tomorrow. y're and then there are going to be no rcustomers of tomorrow. re the customers of tomorrow. txaetty. — the customers of tomorrow. txaetty. teat.— the customers of tomorrow. exactly. yeah. .there's- exactly. yeah. so there's a limit to much, you know, limit to how much, you know, a marketplace should be fine as long as you're not doing anything, long as you're anything, as long as you're being quiet, as long as you've got your parent with you. i mean, appalling idea. mean, it's appalling idea. well, you folks think? well, what do you folks think? do well, what do you folks think? ta-ttsagree— well, what do you folks think? do-disagree-what- well, what do you folks think? do disagree what john do you disagree with what john has do you disagree with what john tas-say— do you disagree with what john tas-say nag,- do you disagree with what john has say there, mark has had to say there, mark trams-wt,— has had to say there, mark gbnews.uk, feel gbnews.uk, do you feel threatened— gbnews.uk, do you feel threatened you threatened by teenagers when you go threatened by teenagers when you ga snaaatnge— threatened by teenagers when you go shopping? would you like atwtts— go shopping? would you likei atwtts—ar adults accompanying them or taattng— adults accompanying them or looking-this?- adults accompanying them or looking this? now adults accompanying them or looking up this? now adults accompanying them or looking up next, this? now adults accompanying them or looking up next, myiis? now adults accompanying them or looking up next, my shout)w adults accompanying them or looking up next, my shout outs. coming up next, my shout outs. ves— coming up next, my shout outs. yes-sette— coming up next, my shout outs. yes-settle down - coming up next, my shout outs. yes settle down my mark yes is to settle down my mark meats— yes is to settle down my mark treats gwest,— yes is to settle down my mark meads guest, one— yes is to settle down my mark meads guest, one of the most teartess— meads guest, one of the most teartess ant— meads guest, one of the most fearless and principled politicians— fearless and principled politicians in the country. the text— politicians in the country. the brexit supporting conservative mp brexit supporting conservative tar tar— brexit supporting conservative ttr tar wartey— brexit supporting conservative mp for morley outwood mp for morley and outwood in west— mp for morley and outwood in west-antea- mp for morley and outwood in west andrea jenkins west yorkshire. andrea jenkins traaatng— west yorkshire. andrea jenkins traaatng-trwtn- west yorkshire. andrea jenkins dropping truth bombs .

next some i next- some great | text— some great emails coming inext— some great emails coming in at wewsam . twt— some great emails coming in at news.com . but first, it's time news.com. but first, it's time for news.com. but first, it's time tar wart— news.com. but first, it's time for mark meets— news.com. but first, it's time for mark meets .— news.com. but first, it's time for mark meets . now news.com. but first, it's time for mark meets. now this evening

gatng— for mark meets. now this evening gatng ta— for mark meets. now this evening we're going to meet— for mark meets. now this evening we're going to meet one of the mast— we're going to meet one of the most principled— we're going to meet one of the most principled and fearless aattttetans— most principled and fearless politicians in— most principled and fearless politicians in the country , the politicians in the country, the treat— politicians in the country, the brexit supporting conservative mp brexit supporting conservative tar tar— brexit supporting conservative ttr tar wartey— brexit supporting conservative mp for morley and outwood in west— mp for morley and outwood in west yorkshire,— mp for morley and outwood in west yorkshire, andrea jenkins ant— west yorkshire, andrea jenkins ant andrea.— west yorkshire, andrea jenkins and andrea. it's— west yorkshire, andrea jenkins and andrea. it's been quite the tawmey— and andrea. it's been quite the journeyr teawtng— and andrea. it's been quite the journey, leaving school at 16, getttng— journey, leaving school at 16, getttng a— journey, leaving school at 16, getttng a tat— journey, leaving school at 16, getttng a tat at— journey, leaving school at 16, getting a job at greggs, but ewentwatty— getting a job at greggs, but eventually achieving a highly sweeesstwt— eventually achieving a highly successful parliamentary career. taw— successful parliamentary career. naw att— successful parliamentary career. naw ttt yawn— successful parliamentary career. how did your upbringing shape the how did your upbringing shape tne tesan— how did your upbringing shape tne aesan yaw— how did your upbringing shape the person you are today and the atwes— the person you are today and the ates yaw— the person you are today and the values you hold— the person you are today and the values you hold .— the person you are today and the values you hold . _ the person you are today and the values you hold . values you hold. thank you, mike. it's good to be here this evening. i'm very lucky. i had an amazing mum and dad . um, i an amazing mum and dad. um, i mean, my dad was a lorry driver. he was one of eight children who shared a bedroom. they had nothing . and then he set his own nothing. and then he set his own business up and there was amazing. he used to say it doesn't matter where you come from in life, it's what you do in life that matters. and both my sisters are quite strong characters as well. and he used to , dream dare to to say, dream big and dare to fail. i'm very lucky having

fail. so i'm very lucky having that kind of upbringing. had that kind of upbringing. i had quite upbringing. that kind of upbringing. i had quite when upbringing. that kind of upbringing. i had quite when myzibringing. that kind of upbringing. i had quite when my dad'sing. that kind of upbringing. i had quite when my dad's business mean, when my dad's business went bust , he we lived in went bust, he we lived in a council house for about six years and he ended up buying this field in the 80s for £200, bought a horse from the local gypsy camp bought a horse from the local gypsy camp . so we had a horse gypsy camp. so we had a horse while living in a council house. so it was. and then he got back on his feet again. so i've seen both sides of life really well. your family are conservatives or were you the first? andrea no, there were you the first? andrea no, tnere was— were you the first? andrea no, there was definitely— there was definitely a conservative. 3 there was definitely a conservative. " there was definitely a— conservative. i mean, my sister , my oldest sister, who was ten and a half years older, you know, she got into politics far more quicker than i did. i sort of fell into politics when i lost my dad really in decided to stand for an mp in 2011 when we lost my dad. well, you've had a meteoric rise . we're going to meteoric rise. we're going to tatt— meteoric rise. we're going to tatt atawt— meteoric rise. we're going to talk about the— c c we're going to talk about the serious politics in talk about the serious politics tn twst— talk about the serious politics tn twst a— talk about the serious politics in just a moment. but first, twe— in just a moment. but first, he gat— in just a moment. but first, he gat ta— in just a moment. but first, i've got to ask— in just a moment. but first, i've got to ask you about miss uk i've got to ask you about miss wt .— i've got to ask you about miss wt . tett— i've got to ask you about miss wt . tett me— i've got to ask you about miss uk . tell me more— i've got to ask you about miss uk . tell me more. o" i've got to ask you about miss uk . tell me more . o" ctitc uk. tell me more. oh, god, i mean, not surprised . oh, no,

mean, not surprised. oh, no, god, i'm a bit more chubbier now. um i had an amazing dad . i now. um i had an amazing dad. i mean, i just tell you a funny story, actually. my dad was so proud . and when i recorded my proud. and when i recorded my album back in two thousand and seven, i think it was, he turned up at andrew lloyd webber's house at five in the morning, knocked on the door at six in the morning, and gave it to the butler, and the butler invited him in. it was really sort of like trying. it was a, you know, amazing, proud dad and, uh, when yeah, when i was younger , he yeah, when i was younger, he sent my picture into the beauty pageant and, um, it was how was it? um it was interesting. i mean, i don't mind stuff like that. i think whatever makes people happy , but it was a bit people happy, but it was a bit of fun. but i didn't take it seriously. i mean, there's. there's people there who was , there's people there who was, um, taking it really seriously in the way they walked and the, oh, i better not go out there. the judges might see me. i want to make an entrance and i need

the loo. just go to the loo. so it was, um. it was interesting. yeah. it's different of yeah. it's a different side of life, listen , you made life, so. well, listen, you made it to the final and clearly you decided to do work that was a bit more substantial than that. you wanted to change the world, so you wanted to change the world, sa yaw— you wanted to change the world, sa yaw enteret— you wanted to change the world, so you entered politics. it's an amaztng— so you entered politics. it's an amaztng stary— so you entered politics. it's an amazing story. you went back to etweattan— amazing story. you went back to etweattan tn— amazing story. you went back to education in your— amazing story. you went back to education in your late 30s via tne— education in your late 30s via tne open— education in your late 30s via the open university and the twenty— the open university and the university of— the open university and the university of lincoln. the rest is university of lincoln. the rest ts ntstary. — university of lincoln. the rest is history. you're— university of lincoln. the rest is history. you're in the cammans— is history. you're in the commons now . so. so let's talk commons now. so. so let's talk atawt— commons now. so. so let's talk about politics. _ commons now. so. so let's talk about politics. was— commons now. so. so let's talk about politics. was it a mistake getttng— about politics. was it a mistake getttng nt— about politics. was it a mistake getttng rtt at— about politics. was it a mistake getting rid of boris johnson? do you getting rid of boris johnson? do yaw tntnt— getting rid of boris johnson? do yaw tntnt e — getting rid of boris johnson? do yaw tntnt e t— getting rid of boris johnson? do you think .7 i think— getting rid of boris johnson? do you think ? you think? i think so. definitely and i think that , you definitely and i think that, you know, he was democratically elected . and when , um, it should elected. and when, um, it should have been the electorate kicking him out. i mean, i don't want to appear to be a hypocrite here because of, you know, the theresa may years, but, but the fact was, you know, the country was in national embarrassment then. we couldn't get any legislation through. and think legislation through. and i think that was different you that was different times. you know, majority one is a know, we had a majority one is a massive really

massive majority. and i really genuinely think there's an orchestrated campaign for anybody who's centre right. we've seen it in tv, haven't we, as well? we see what's been going on in itv and it's thank god for, you know, programmes and gb news shows , etcetera. but and gb news shows, etcetera. but yeah, i think it was wrong 1,000,000. and when liz truss came along i thought, wow , it's came along i thought, wow, it's the first time in years we've actually got some conservative policies, you know, that's why , policies, you know, that's why, that's why i backed her aslef as the economy faces further challenges truss proved challenges was liz truss proved right all along about lowering taxes and boosting growth . i taxes and boosting growth. i think she was definitely , you think she was definitely, you know, i was messaging her last night and i think she was. but as i've said publicly before, i think the issue is that that in the party we've got more than one nation conservatives and we have the centre right thatcherite conservative lives is in is in empis and they got the leader they wanted with rishi. but the activists, they

wanted boris. so it's misaligned as i said, one of the most principled politicians in the country. you backed brexit. you are a conviction— ctit. you backed brexit. you are a conviction politician , so are a conviction politician, so mwen— are a conviction politician, so mwen sa— are a conviction politician, so mwen sa tnat— are a conviction politician, so much so that you— are a conviction politician, so much so that you famously tttaaet— much so that you famously tttaaet tne— much so that you famously flipped the middle finger to a tratester— flipped the middle finger to a aratester a— flipped the middle finger to a protester a while— flipped the middle finger to a protester a while back . what protester a while back. what naaaenet— protester a while back. what naaaenet e— protester a while back. what naaaenet e ttm— protester a while back. what happened ? um i actually saw that happened? um i actually saw that stewe— happened? um i actually saw that steve bremmer_ happened? um i actually saw that steve bremmer ,_ happened? um i actually saw that steve bremmer , you know that steve bremmer, you know that wna-s— steve bremmer, you know that was tne— steve bremmer, you know that wna-s tne gwy— steve bremmer, you know that wna-s tne gwye — steve bremmer, you know that who's the guy ? ' 3 " who's the guy? and he's been hounding me. and you've got children and i'm sure you're a protective dad. i'm a protective mum. i've got a little six year old. even when my little one was in his pram, he'd be there with his big megaphone, shouting. and. and there was all there shouting. buy, buy, boris. and i thought, do you know you guys have got what you want now? and he the big megaphone and the he had the big megaphone and the music playing buy, buy boris and i thought soju enough i thought soju i'd had enough of yeah . and simple that. who yeah. and simple as that. who could blame you? i think people tan-t— could blame you? i think people tan-t reattse— could blame you? i think people don't realise the— could blame you? i think people don't realise the amount- c: gtit7 i think people don't realise the amount of

atwse— don't realise the amount of atwse tnat— don't realise the amount of abuse that politicians get as tney— abuse that politicians get as tney ga— abuse that politicians get as tney ga atawt— abuse that politicians get as they go about their daily twsrness — they go about their daily business. i've— they go about their daily business. i've got a really trtety— business. i've got a really tricky question- business. i've got a really tricky question for you and you mtgnt— tricky question for you and you mtgnt tnt— tricky question for you and you mtgnt ttnt tt— tricky question for you and you might find it quite difficult to answer. so are— might find it quite difficult to answer. so are you ready? are yaw— answer. so are you ready? are yaw are— answer. so are you ready? are yaw yaw— answer. so are you ready? are you are you braced? ci it" answer. so are you ready? are you are you braced? ci it“ ’sti“ you are you braced? g0 on then. ves— you are you braced? g0 on then. wes taw— you are you braced? g0 on then. wes naw atawt— you are you braced? g0 on then. yes how about tricky— you are you braced? ci ti“ si“ tv/titi: how about tricky question yes how about tricky question tents— yes how about tricky question tents . — yes how about tricky question tents . on.— yes how about tricky question tents . on. sorry.— yes how about tricky question penis . oh, sorry, i- tv/titi: how about tricky question penis . penis. oh, sorry, i misheard that. can a woman have a penis ? that. can a woman have a penis? of course not. no, not in a million years, no . there's two million years, no. there's two biological sexes . that's the way biological sexes. that's the way i was brought up. and that's the fact of the matter. what do you tntnt— fact of the matter. what do you mm at— fact of the matter. what do you think of politicians,— ehctc what do you think of politicians, andrea, tnat— think of politicians, andrea, tnat annat— think of politicians, andrea, that cannot answer that gwesttan— that cannot answer that question, especially people like keir question, especially people like tetr sum..— question, especially people like keir starmer, actually keir starmer, who's actually marrtet— keir starmer, who's actually marrtetla— keir starmer, who's actually married a woman and clearly, married to a woman and clearly, etearty— married to a woman and clearly, etearty nat— married to a woman and clearly, clearly had children with a woman as well. / woman as well. yeah, i think that he is actually he doesn't speak the truth . he's pandering speak the truth. he's pandering and just just speak the truth. be honest of course, keir starmer would argue that he simply wants to include all members of society. listen ,

members of society. listen, before you members of society. listen, tetare yaw ga— members of society. listen, before you go, we- c listen, before you go, we could talk for nawrs— before you go, we could talk for nawrs .— before you go, we could talk for nawrs . taat— before you go, we could talk for hours . look forward to your next hours. look forward to your next attearanee— hours. look forward to your next attearanee an— hours. look forward to your next appearance on the— hours. look forward to your next appearance on the show. but wnat-s— appearance on the show. but was next— appearance on the show. but what's next for— appearance on the show. but what's next for you? would you ttte— what's next for you? would you ttte ta— what's next for you? would you like to re—enter_ what's next for you? would you like to re—enter the sort of top tewet— like to re—enter the sort of top level government— like to re—enter the sort of top level government you've been a ant— level government you've been a ant yae— level government you've been a ant ye nat— level government you've been a and you've had various tastttans. — and you've had various positions. would you like to nave— positions. would you like to nave yaw— positions. would you like to have your hand— positions. would you like to have your hand on the tiller agatn— have your hand on the tiller agatn e — have your hand on the tiller agatn e wm— have your hand on the tiller again ? um, no,- have your hand on the tiller again ? n have your hand on the tiller again ? “ have your hand on the tiller- again ? um, no, not in a million again? um, no, not in a million years, mark. i mean, i was a i was a whip for nearly a year , was a whip for nearly a year, um, which you couldn't speak then, you know, in media. and then, you know, in media. and then i was a for minister nearly four months, but it was actually this is a sad story. it was losing my mum last year and my sister went into coma at the same time and, and she got paralysed . and then i thought paralysed. and then i thought sort of thought to myself, you know, you decided you will be a politic mission, can't be edited . andrea jenkins, thank you so mwen— . andrea jenkins, thank you so mwen .— . andrea jenkins, thank you so mwen . weat— . andrea jenkins, thank you so mwen . teat “pr— andrea jenkins, thank you so much . next up, my take .

at ten, it's l at ten,| it's 10:00 l at ten,- it's 10:00 on i at ten.— it's10:00 on television on ratta— it's10:00 on television on ratta ant— it's10:00 on television on radio and online in the united ttngtam— radio and online in the united ttngtam ant— radio and online in the united kingdom and across the world. tnts— kingdom and across the world. tnts ts— kingdom and across the world. tnts ts wart— kingdom and across the world. this is mark dolan tonight in my tate— this is mark dolan tonight in my take at— this is mark dolan tonight in my take at ten— this is mark dolan tonight in my take at ten, itv_ this is mark dolan tonight in my take at ten, itv are— this is mark dolan tonight in my take at ten, itv are expected to tnts— take at ten, itv are expected to axe this morning— take at ten, itv are expected to axe this morning by the autumn . axe this morning by the autumn. tnts— axe this morning by the autumn. tnts sarry— axe this morning by the autumn. this sorry drama— axe this morning by the autumn. this sorry drama is— axe this morning by the autumn. this sorry drama is one of their mattng. — this sorry drama is one of their own making. and— this sorry drama is one of their own making. and two weeks ago, i take— own making. and two weeks ago, i trate tne— own making. and two weeks ago, i broke the internet— own making. and two weeks ago, i broke the internet with my extraordinary— broke the internet with my extraordinary offer to step in ant— extraordinary offer to step in and rescue the— extraordinary offer to step in and rescue the show. after ten. ttnt— and rescue the show. after ten. ttnt awt— and rescue the show. after ten. find out whether— and rescue the show. after ten. find out whether that offer stit— find out whether that offer still stands— find out whether that offer still stands .— find out whether that offer still stands . as— find out whether that offer still stands . as keir starmer still stands. as keir starmer says— still stands. as keir starmer says ne— still stands. as keir starmer says, ne nas— still stands. as keir starmer says, ne nas a— still stands. as keir starmer says, he has a plan to tackle tne— says, he has a plan to tackle the channel— says, he has a plan to tackle the channel migrant crisis . can the channel migrant crisis. can tatawr— the channel migrant crisis. can tatawr stat— the channel migrant crisis. can labour stop the— the channel migrant crisis. can labour stop the boats? i'll be asttng— labour stop the boats? i'll be asking tonight's— labour stop the boats? i'll be asking tonight's newsmaker the tarmttatte— asking tonight's newsmaker the formidable ann— asking tonight's newsmaker the formidable ann widdecombe and wat— formidable ann widdecombe and matt tatan— formidable ann widdecombe and mark dolan tonight is the home of mark dolan tonight is the home at tne— mark dolan tonight is the home at me taters— mark dolan tonight is the home of the papers with— mark dolan tonight is the home of the papers with tomorrow's trant— of the papers with tomorrow's trant tages— of the papers with tomorrow's front pages from _ of the papers with tomorrow's front pages from exactly 1030 start— front pages from exactly 1030

snart .— sharp. so- sharp. so will i start.- so will i be start.— so will i be taking snart. — so will i be taking over this marntnge— so will i be taking over this morning? find— so will i be taking over this morning? find out after the marines— morning? find out after the headlines with— morning? find out after the headlines with rory smith . thank headlines with rory smith. thank you headlines with rory smith. thank yaw very— headlines with rory smith. thank yaw wery mwen— headlines with rory smith. thank yaw wery mwen. — headlines with rory smith. thank you very much . cc headlines with rory smith. thank you very much . cc you very much. mark will stand with the subject. itv says this morning will air as normal tomorrow following reports the show could be axed. but staff members say executives need to prove they're properly addressing the issue of philip schofield's affair with a young employee. sources have told gb news that bosses have just seven days to save the programme . days to save the programme. ma'am, we asked some viewers their opinions. it's not really for us to judge someone . i mean, for us to judge someone. i mean, what he did and— for us to judge someone. i mean, what he did and what— for us to judge someone. i mean, what he did and what if- ii: g i mean, what he did and what if it's trwe— what he did and what if it's trwe tnat— what he did and what if it's true that this— what he did and what if it's true that this young chap was 18? true that this young chap was tse rts— true that this young chap was 18? it's nothing— true that this young chap was 18? it's nothing to do with tnat.— 18? it's nothing to do with tnat. t— 18? it's nothing to do with that. i think— 18? it's nothing to do with that. i think he- 18? it's nothing to do with that. i think he should speak to his that. i think he should speak to nts tamtty— that. i think he should speak to nts tamtty. — that. i think he should speak to nts tamtty. t— that. i think he should speak to his family. i will— that. i think he should speak to his family. cc his family. i will say that i think perhaps the show needs

fresh people on. i think that the show really relied on the chemistry that holly and phil had for me. less. i am less keen to had for me. less. i am less keen ta watentng— had for me. less. i am less keen ta watentng tne— “ritc less. i am less keen to watching the programmes with ten — to watching the programmes with ten as— to watching the programmes with ten as tney— to watching the programmes with them as they split. am i right? tnt— them as they split. am i right? ant t— them as they split. am i right? ant t tntnt— them as they split. am i right? and i think that— them as they split. am i right? and i think that holly is going to and i think that holly is going ta get— and i think that holly is going ta get tne— and i think that holly is going to get the career— and i think that holly is going to get the career even bigger taw— to get the career even bigger now. you know,— to get the career even bigger now. you know, i— to get the career even bigger now. you know, i like i like tnt— now. you know, i like i like rntt ant— now. you know, i like i like phil and holly,— now. you know, i like i like phil and holly, so i'm very sad to phil and holly, so i'm very sad ta see— phil and holly, so i'm very sad ta tnem— phil and holly, so i'm very sad ta tnem ga— phil and holly, so i'm very sad to see them go because i loved i tawet— to see them go because i loved i tawet tnem— to see them go because i loved i loved them both. _ to see them go because i loved i loved them both. c cgt loved them both. so it's a pity really. and i was shocked to hear about phil because i didn't think he'd do anything like that, be so deceitful . all in that, be so deceitful. all in turkey. president erdogan has tne— c. president erdogan has won the presidential election to tate— won the presidential election to take nts— won the presidential election to take nts rwte— won the presidential election to take his rule into— won the presidential election to take his rule into a third decade.— take his rule into a third decade. erdogan received just 52%— decade. erdogan received just 52% at— decade. erdogan received just over 52% of the— decade. erdogan received just over 52% of the vote with kilic , terwta— over 52% of the vote with kilic , derulo securing— over 52% of the vote with kilic , derulo securing nearly 48. his twat— , derulo securing nearly 48. his rtwat ts— , derulo securing nearly 48. his rival is refusing— , derulo securing nearly 48. his rival is refusing to— , derulo securing nearly 48. his rival is refusing to admit teteat— rival is refusing to admit defeat, calling it an unfair eteettan— defeat, calling it an unfair eteettan .— defeat, calling it an unfair election , while- defeat, calling it an unfair election , while uk prime election, while uk prime tttntster— election, while uk prime minister rishi - election, while uk prime minister rishi sunak has sent his congratulations , saying he

his congratulations, saying he taats— his congratulations, saying he looks forward— his congratulations, saying he looks forward to— his congratulations, saying he looks forward to continuing a strang— looks forward to continuing a strong collaboration between the uk strong collaboration between the uk ant— strong collaboration between the wt ant twrtey— strong collaboration between the wt ant twrtey .— strong collaboration between the uk and turkey . a— strong collaboration between the uk and turkey . a man has been uk and turkey. a man has been enarget— uk and turkey. a man has been enarget wttn— uk and turkey. a man has been charged with the— uk and turkey. a man has been charged with the murder of a 71 year— charged with the murder of a 71 year att— charged with the murder of a 71 year att tay— charged with the murder of a 71 year att tay tn— charged with the murder of a 71 year old boy in sheffield . year old boy in sheffield. wanammet— year old boy in sheffield. mohammed iqbal was stabbed to team— mohammed iqbal was stabbed to teatn tn— mohammed iqbal was stabbed to teatn tn tne— mohammed iqbal was stabbed to death in the crookes area on tnwrstay— death in the crookes area on tnwrstay ant— death in the crookes area on thursday and later died in nastttat.— thursday and later died in nastttat 29— thursday and later died in hospital. 29 year old peshawar enataar— hospital. 29 year old peshawar ghafoor from _ hospital. 29 year old peshawar ghafoor from the— hospital. 29 year old peshawar ghafoor from the city will attear— ghafoor from the city will attear tn— ghafoor from the city will appear in court- ghafoor from the city will appear in court tomorrow, enarget— appear in court tomorrow, charged with— appear in court tomorrow, charged with his murder. appear in court tomorrow, charged with his murder . well, charged with his murder. well, eartter— charged with his murder. well, eartter tatay— charged with his murder. well, earlier today, a— charged with his murder. well, earlier today, a 33 year old man atsa— earlier today, a 33 year old man was also arrested— earlier today, a 33 year old man was also arrested on suspicion of was also arrested on suspicion at asststtng— was also arrested on suspicion at asststtng an— was also arrested on suspicion of assisting an offender. the gawernment— of assisting an offender. the government is— of assisting an offender. the government is launching an ad eamtatgn— government is launching an ad eamtatgn ta— government is launching an ad eamtatgn ta stat— government is launching an ad campaign to stop people from erasstng— campaign to stop people from erasstng tne— campaign to stop people from crossing the channel the advert set ta— crossing the channel the advert set ta te— crossing the channel the advert set to be circulated in albania neat— set to be circulated in albania next week,— set to be circulated in albania next week, will— set to be circulated in albania next week, will warn people they tase — next week, will warn people they tase tetng — next week, will warn people they face being detained and removed if face being detained and removed tt tney— face being detained and removed tt tney mate— face being detained and removed if they make the— face being detained and removed if they make the journey. crtttes— if they make the journey. critics have _ if they make the journey. critics have already branded it as tatnttess— critics have already branded it as pointless, saying it won't teter— as pointless, saying it won't teter tnem— as pointless, saying it won't deter them while a record number of deter them while a record number at teatte— deter them while a record number at teatte mate— deter them while a record number of people made the— deter them while a record number of people made the crossing in smatt— of people made the crossing in smatt taats— of people made the crossing in small boats last— of people made the crossing in small boats last year and more tnan— small boats last year and more tnan eooo— small boats last year and more than 6000 have— small boats last year and more than 6000 have been intercepted

so than 6000 have been intercepted sa tar— than 6000 have been intercepted sa tar tnts— than 6000 have been intercepted sa tar tnts year— than 6000 have been intercepted so far this year ,_ than 6000 have been intercepted so far this year , tv— than 6000 have been intercepted so far this year , tv online dab+ so far this year, tv online dab+ tatta— so far this year, tv online dab+ tatta ant— so far this year, tv online dab+ tatta ant an— so far this year, tv online dab+ radio and on tunein . this is gb radio and on tunein. this is gb wews— radio and on tunein. this is gb wews taro.— radio and on tunein. this is gb news nato. back— radio and on tunein. this is gb news nato. back to . news nato. back to. mark |ttants.— news nato. back to. mark . thanks, ryan. - news nato. back to. mark. . thanks, ryan. welcome to news nato. back to. mark thanks, ryan. welcome to mark dolan tonight as keir starmer says, he a plan to tackle says, he has a plan to tackle the channel migrant crisis. can labour stop the boats? i'll be asking tonight's newsmaker, ann widdecombe . and mark dolan widdecombe. and mark dolan tonight is the home of the papers with tomorrow's front pages from exactly 1030 sharp. and we're expecting more headunes and we're expecting more headlines about phillip schofield and itv . plus, we'll schofield and itv. plus, we'll have tonight's headline , heroes have tonight's headline, heroes and back page zero. big stories, big guests, and always big opinions. let's kick off with my take . at ten. they've only got

take. at ten. they've only got themselves to blame. the sunday mirror newspaper report that itv are considering axing this morning, all as a result of their disastrous handling of a scandal. that was the worst kept secret since elton john's hair loss. they are now on the verge of losing one of the most valuable franchises in the history of british television . history of british television. do you remember when this morning started with the brit, richard and judy? how great was that show live from liverpool, in touch with its audience, down to earth with dear old judy regularly getting cheesed off by her husband's overzealous interruptions. they had great chemistry because they were married. they weren't pretending to like each other, like some of the others. since then , this the others. since then, this morning has reflected the smug, fake vomit inducing world of established . media this reached

established. media this reached its nadir with holly and phil, who went to awards ceremonies together and turned up to present the show the next day. still drunk and merry. present the show the next day. still drunk and merry . what still drunk and merry. what a wonderful life they went on houday wonderful life they went on holiday together. dinner parties, holly and phil, besties for life , of course. plenty of for life, of course. plenty of tv is fake. holly and phil are not unique, but it was around the time phil had his emergency announcement of being gay that things took a darker hue . that things took a darker hue. that was the point at which you can only conclude the audience were probably being lied to about what kind of guy schofield actually was . surely that's the actually was. surely that's the point where holly willoughby puts her hand up, isn't it, and says, i don't like this. sorry folks, something's not right. i'm out of here. as others did instead , fuelled by more instead, fuelled by more ambition than napoleon, the highly entertaining rising willoughby keeps the band together in order to prop up not just the show, but also her

growing media and commercial empire . i'm sorry, folks. she's empire. i'm sorry, folks. she's very talented, but the halo has supped very talented, but the halo has slipped for little miss perfect it now. itv have been guilty of some colossal misjudgements of late , but none more so than late, but none more so than their insane decision. not to take me up on my extraordinary offer to rescue this morning as an act of patriotic duty here is the original take. at ten two weeks ago, which not uncharacteristically for this show broke the internet. take a listen . so the offer stands . i listen. so the offer stands. i am willing to present this morning with my fee going to charity. help for heroes. this is not a drill. the charity. help for heroes. this is not a drill . the offer charity. help for heroes. this is not a drill. the offer is a firm one. oh and if i do have to use schofield's dressing room, make sure it's been disinfected first. itv it's over to you . first. itv it's over to you. well it didn't happen. more fool them. they've lost thousands of

viewers. let me tell you that ratings are not a problem on this show. can i tell you that i think for the first time ever, we beat bbc news, the flagship news channel of this country, at 10:00 last night. well done to my team. and you, my amazing viewers and listeners. so we didn't happen. i was not the presenter of this morning two weeks ago. instead they put holly and phil back on, not even acknowledging this huge story and therefore taking their viewers for idiots. this morning is hanging by a thread . and i'd is hanging by a thread. and i'd like to get it back to where it once was in the great days of richard and judy. so i've cleared this with the bosses here and the offer still stands. i will temporarily host the show just to get it back on its feet whilst of course maintaining my dufies whilst of course maintaining my duties here at gb news. i will need a co—presenter of obviously andifs need a co—presenter of obviously and it's a deal breaker who i get. who do you think should be my co—host on this morning? get. who do you think should be my co—host on this morning ? it my co—host on this morning? it can't be anyone fake or pathetic. here are the people i

would consider doing the show with . nana. akua. what a talent, with. nana. akua. what a talent, what a broadcaster. what a personality . he michelle personality. he michelle dewberry beautiful, smart, clever . on the right side of clever. on the right side of every argument. bev clever. on the right side of every argument . bev turner every argument. bev turner feisty. brainbox talented and drop dead gorgeous. yes yes. yes. dan watson. imagine me and dan on this morning and let's be honest, dan belongs back at itv, his home for ten years. i'd also present the show with nigel farage. how great would that be? no nonsense from nigel. i'd love to hear nigel talk about swimsuit or pasta recipes. time to get that beach body ready . to get that beach body ready. and if it comes to it and they want somebody a bit more woke . want somebody a bit more woke. after all, it is itv . i would do after all, it is itv. i would do it with lineker. that's right, folks.i it with lineker. that's right, folks. i would be willing to work with gary lineker. sparks will fly and i think you'll agree it would be unmissable

telly and he's got schofield white hair so it won't be such a shock to the system in the end. whatever happens, i suspect this morning is not long for this world. itv is about to lose its cash cow because of their bull. it's an utter disaster. your reaction? mark gb news .com. or get to your brilliant emails shortly but reacting to my take at ten, my top pundits, author and agony aunt hilary freeman tv news legend john sergeant and journalist and broadcaster linda jubilee . john. sergeant, your jubilee. john. sergeant, your reaction to my bold offer to itv . it's very generous of you . i . it's very generous of you. i reatty— . it's very generous of you. i reatty tne— . it's very generous of you. i reatty tne way— . it's very generous of you. i really the way you - it's very generous of you. i really the way you do it, tnawgn— really the way you do it, tnawgn ts— really the way you do it, though, is such modesty and care . tann— though, is such modesty and care . tatn. ttsten— though, is such modesty and care . john, listen, i— though, is such modesty and care . john, listen, i was— though, is such modesty and care . john, listen, i was in- though, is such modesty and care . john, listen, i was in tears. i mean, it wouldn't have been sarmn— i mean, it wouldn't have been sarmn twt— i mean, it wouldn't have been sarmn twt t— i mean, it wouldn't have been shown, but i was— i mean, it wouldn't have been shown, but i was overcome . shown, but i was overcome. ttsten— shown, but i was overcome.

ttsten. tatn— shown, but i was overcome. listen, john. john,— shown, but i was overcome. listen, john. john, don't- shown, but i was overcome. listen, john. john, don't too be facetious, because there might be a gig in it for you. i need a weatherman. ido. be a gig in it for you. i need a weatherman. i do. i wouldn't be any— weatherman. i do. i wouldn't be any gaat— weatherman. i do. i wouldn't be any gaat as— weatherman. i do. i wouldn't be any gaat as a— i do. i wouldn't be any good as a weatherman. �*ftt�*ticc any good as a weatherman. well, aetwatty— any good as a weatherman. well, aetwatty. yaw — any good as a weatherman. well, actually, you know— any good as a weatherman. well, actually, you know what i would do, john? do you know what i wawtt— do, john? do you know what i wawtt tat— do, john? do you know what i wawtt tat t— do, john? do you know what i would do? i would— cit “7 do you know what i would do? i would bring you back as tne— would do? i would bring you back as tne enter— would do? i would bring you back as the chief political correspondent of this morning, teawse— correspondent of this morning, teeawse—tett- because i've got to tell you, tnere-s— because i've got to tell you, there's journalisticfigure there's no journalistic figure tnat— there's no journalistic figure tnat t— there's no journalistic figure tnat t an— there's no journalistic figure that i can think— there's no journalistic figure that i can think of in last that i can think of in the last taw— that i can think of in the last tawr-wna-s- that i can think of in the last four who's opinion that i can think of in the last. four-who's opinion and four decades. who's opinion and twtgement—tnanl judgement i trusted more than wnen— judgement i trusted more than wnen yaw— judgement i trusted more than wnen yaw wee— judgement i trusted more than when you were in— judgement i trusted more than when you were in front of tawntng— when you were in front of downing street. margaret ttatetet— downing street. margaret thatcher, john major beyond. downing street. margaret thatc atr, john major beyond. downing street. margaret thatc a journalist ijor beyond. downing street. margaret thatc a journalist ijor are. ieyond. downing street. margaret thatc a journalist ijor are. andid. what a journalist you are. and it's what a journalist you are. and tt-s atways— what a journalist you are. and tt-s atways a— what a journalist you are. and it's always a thrill— what a journalist you are. and it's always a thrill to you it's always a thrill to have you on it's always a thrill to have you an-snaw. — it's always a thrill to have you on-show. another- it's always a thrill to have you on show. another great on the show. another great tawmattst— on the show. another great journalist is— on the show. another great journalist is linda jubilee, taw— journalist is linda jubilee,- yaw—marntng your reaction to this morning weatnere— your reaction to this morning weather?-going- your reaction to this morning weather? going last. weather? it's going to last. snawtt— weather? it's going to last. should-what's. weather? it's going to last.- should _what's your should they exit? what's your awewtew — should they exit? what's your overview, _think- should they exit? what's youri overview, _think they overview, linda? i think they will exit. and i think will will exit. and i think they will act quite quickly. now now, the problem they should have problem was they should have acted quickly before . i acted more quickly before. i definitely think that holly willoughby knew about it all a lot earlier than she claims to have. and i think that the young man was behind phillip schofield's announce moment of being gay and coming out. i think that he knew well, i know

that several newspapers had that story and what he was doing was just trying to get ahead of the story and make the announcement and manage the news a little bit. but certainly it had been going on for some time. the question is, how old was the young boy when they first encountered each other ? yes. and encountered each other? yes. and of course, that is the— ti“rc.ir. “tictic c“ ”7’ yes. and of course, that is the million tattar— of course, that is the million dollar question. _ of course, that is the million dollar question. hilary freeman, yaw— dollar question. hilary freeman, yawr reactan— dollar question. hilary freeman, your reaction to— dollar question. hilary freeman, your reaction to this whole tetaetee— your reaction to this whole tetaetee t— your reaction to this whole debacle? i believe it's a crisis ms— debacle? i believe it's a crisis was at— debacle? i believe it's a crisis was at ttv-s— debacle? i believe it's a crisis , this of itv's making . yes. it , this of itv's making. yes. it taats— , this of itv's making. yes. it taats ttte— , this of itv's making. yes. it looks like schofield's behaviour was inappropriate— looks like schofield's behaviour was inappropriate , but it seems was inappropriate, but it seems ttte— was inappropriate, but it seems ttte a— was inappropriate, but it seems like a management failure too, ant— like a management failure too, ant tassttty— like a management failure too, ant tassttty a— like a management failure too, and possibly a cultural one. team— and possibly a cultural one. yeah, absolutely . “ yeah, absolutely. i mean, this story— yeah, absolutely. i mean, this story has been known about in media circles for literally years. so everybody at itv knew about this . i think. i think about this. i think. i think holly did know, but i actually think that she genuinely believed philip when he said that it wasn't true. i think i think it's unfair to castigate her for trusting her friend . but her for trusting her friend. but yeah, i think i think heads are going to roll at itv. i think

it's a higher level that has to take responsibility for this. yeah yeah. i mean, linda, let's tatt— yeah yeah. i mean, linda, let's tatt atawt— yeah yeah. i mean, linda, let's talk about holly— / yeah. i mean, linda, let's talk about holly willoughby. has the talk about holly willoughby. has tne nata— talk about holly willoughby. has the halo slipped— talk about holly willoughby. has the halo slipped for little miss rerteet— the halo slipped for little miss rerteete — the halo slipped for little miss perfect ? yes,— the halo slipped for little miss perfect ? yes, i— the halo slipped for little miss perfect ? tv/titi: perfect? yes, i think she certainly now has to use another analogy for feet of clay. she was in a pretty unassailable position , so it's rather position, so it's rather surprising that things degenerated to this extent. but i think now now is the time for a break just for her, just to let things ease off a little bit . i don't think she can punch her way through this one. i think she has to take a break, take stock. but i don't think her career is over in the way that phillip schofield clearly is. yes. now, john, sergeant, we've seen the— tv/titi: now, john, sergeant, we've seen the impact on fox wewss— we've seen the impact on fox wewss rattngs— we've seen the impact on fox news's ratings in— we've seen the impact on fox news's ratings in the states tastng— news's ratings in the states tastng ta— news's ratings in the states losing to tucker— news's ratings in the states losing to tucker carlson. i tntnt— losing to tucker carlson. i tntnt tt— losing to tucker carlson. i think it was— losing to tucker carlson. i think it was 3— losing to tucker carlson. i think it was 3 million viewers a ntgnt. — think it was 3 million viewers a ntgnt. ne— think it was 3 million viewers a ntgnt. ne nat— think it was 3 million viewers a night. he had there down to a mum— night. he had there down to a mttttan naw— night. he had there down to a million now. and— night. he had there down to a million now. and here's the trattem.— million now. and here's the trattem. tt— million now. and here's the problem. if you— million now. and here's the problem. if you lose a hit show me— problem. if you lose a hit show ttte tnts— problem. if you lose a hit show like this morning,— problem. if you lose a hit show like this morning, it doesn't twst— like this morning, it doesn't twst attest— like this morning, it doesn't just affect that— like this morning, it doesn't just affect that slot. it can attest— just affect that slot. it can atteet tne— just affect that slot. it can affect the lead— just affect that slot. it can affect the lead in beforehand ant— affect the lead in beforehand ant tne— affect the lead in beforehand and the show— affect the lead in beforehand and the show afterwards is. sure.— and the show afterwards is. sure. tnat-s— and the show afterwards is. sure, that's it.— and the show afterwards is. sure, that's it. it's- and the show afterwards is. sure, that's it. it's a-

and the show afterwards is. sure, that's it. it's a very important bridging moment in the schedule. that's certainly true. i would have thought what they do is they they certainly say it's end of this morning and it's the end of this morning and then they bring back a show which to do exactly the same which is to do exactly the same thing. they might have three presenters instead of two. they might have one, but it's got to do job. so the actual do the same job. so the actual job description of the programme will not alter, but the name of the programme must go as soon as possible. and they must say that era is over. i think you're most certainly right. i think they twst— certainly right. i think they twst tatt— certainly right. i think they twst eatt tt— certainly right. i think they just call it good— c ” cg“ i think they just call it good morning and tney— just call it good morning and tney tretent— just call it good morning and they pretend like nothing nattenet.— they pretend like nothing happened. that they pretend like nothing- happened.-that would happened. i'm sure that would want —nttaryl work. john. sergeant hilary teeman— work. john. sergeant hilary freeman and— work. john. sergeant hilary freeman and the wonderful linda twtrtee— freeman and the wonderful linda twtttee are— freeman and the wonderful linda jubilee are back— freeman and the wonderful linda jubilee are back at— freeman and the wonderful linda jubilee are back at 1030 sharp wttn— jubilee are back at 1030 sharp wttn tne— jubilee are back at 1030 sharp with the papers. _ jubilee are back at 1030 sharp with the papers. greg's in enarge—wttti with the papers. greg's in. charge _will be charge tonight, so it will be rose.— charge tonight, so it will be rose-ltnaws— charge tonight, so it will be 1030..knows to- charge tonight, so it will be 1030. knows to how crack the 1030. he knows to how crack the wntg— 1030. he knows to how crack the wp sa— 1030. he knows to how crack the wntt, taat— 1030. he knows to how crack the whip, so, look, folks, lots more to whip, so, look, folks, lots more ta ane— whip, so, look, folks, lots more ta weat— whip, so, look, folks, lots more to come next up,— whip, so, look, folks, lots more to come next up, as starmer to come next up, as keir starmer says— to come next up, as keir starmer says-nas— to come next up, as keir starmer sayslnas a— to come next up, as keir starmer sayslnas a ttan— to come next up, as keir starmer says,.has a plan to- to come next up, as keir starmer says, has a plan to tackle says, he has a plan to tackle tne— says, he has a plan to tackle the channel— says, he has a plan to tackle the channel migrant crisis . can the channel migrant crisis. can tatawr— the channel migrant crisis. can tatawr stat— the channel migrant crisis. can labour stop the— the channel migrant crisis. can labour stop the boats? i'll be asttng— labour stop the boats? i'll be asking tonight's— labour stop the boats? i'll be asking tonight's newsmaker, the tarmttatte— asking tonight's newsmaker, the formidable, unmissable ann formidable, the unmissable ann

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gb news radio. well should i take over this morning ? long as take over this morning? long as it's a national emergency- “tcg7 long as it's a national emergency ? rac it's a national emergency? rac my tee— it's a national emergency? rac my tee wawtt— it's a national emergency? rac my tee wawtt ga— it's a national emergency? rac my fee would go to help for neraes — my fee would go to help for neraes t— my fee would go to help for heroes. i would— my fee would go to help for heroes. i would stay at gb news to heroes. i would stay at gb news ta twtttt— heroes. i would stay at gb news ta twtttt my— heroes. i would stay at gb news to fulfil my duties.— heroes. i would stay at gb news to fulfil my duties. well, many of to fulfil my duties. well, many at yaw— to fulfil my duties. well, many at yaw tntnt— to fulfil my duties. well, many at yaw tntnt t— to fulfil my duties. well, many of you think i should. jill said yaw-t— of you think i should. jill said yaw-t te— of you think i should. jill said yaw-t te great— of you think i should. jill said you'd be great with nana on this marntng— you'd be great with nana on this marntng .— you'd be great with nana on this marntng . ttnta— you'd be great with nana on this morning . linda says hi. mark morning. linda says hi. mark wawtt— morning. linda says hi. mark wawtt ta— morning. linda says hi. mark would to love— morning. linda says hi. mark would to love see you on the snaw— would to love see you on the snaw-ttnsey— would to love see you on the show kinsey schofield, your show with kinsey schofield, your regwtar— show with kinsey schofield, your regular-saturday.- show with kinsey schofield, your regular saturday. match regular on a saturday. a match mate—tany- regular on a saturday. a match mate—tany says- regular on a saturday. a match. made—tony says you're made in heaven. tony says you're stttt— made in heaven. tony says you're stttt ranttng— made in heaven. tony says you're still ranting about— made in heaven. tony says you're still ranting about this morning . tnt— still ranting about this morning . and schofield— still ranting about this morning . and schofield we don't care, says— . and schofield we don't care, says tany. — . and schofield we don't care, says tany. tar— . and schofield we don't care, says tony. for goodness sake, gwe— says tony. for goodness sake, gtwe tt— says tony. for goodness sake, gtwe t a— says tony. for goodness sake, gtwe t a rest.— says tony. for goodness sake, give it a rest. you're getting as tat— give it a rest. you're getting as tat as— give it a rest. you're getting as bad as the— give it a rest. you're getting as bad as the bbc. give it a rest. you're getting as bad as the bbc . tony, please as bad as the bbc. tony, please tan-t— as bad as the bbc. tony, please mm mm— as bad as the bbc. tony, please don't insult me— as bad as the bbc. tony, please don't insult me .— as bad as the bbc. tony, please don't insult me . how about this don't insult me. how about this tram— don't insult me. how about this tram tarrye— don't insult me. how about this tram tarrye t— don't insult me. how about this from barry? i think there should belthreesome_ from barry? i think there should be threesome replace this be a threesome to replace this marntng— be a threesome to replace this marntng .— be a threesome to replace this marntng . mat,— be a threesome to replace this morning . mark, dan and bev morning. mark, dan and bev rattngs— morning. mark, dan and bev ratings would— morning. mark, dan and bev ratings would sky rocket . and as ratings would sky rocket. and as for ratings would sky rocket. and as tar natty— ratings would sky rocket. and as tar natty says— ratings would sky rocket. and as for holly says barry, she must nave— for holly says barry, she must nave tnawn— for holly says barry, she must have known more— for holly says barry, she must have known more of this scandal ant— have known more of this scandal ant sne— have known more of this scandal ant sne meets— have known more of this scandal and she needs to— have known more of this scandal and she needs to be replaced tram— and she needs to be replaced tram tne— and she needs to be replaced tram tne ttv— and she needs to be replaced from the itv slot.— and she needs to be replaced from the itv slot. and tim, what eaaetty— from the itv slot. and tim, what exaetty ts— from the itv slot. and tim, what exaetty ts natty— from the itv slot. and tim, what exactly is holly willoughby, tatentet— exactly is holly willoughby, talented at— exactly is holly willoughby, talented at besides inane

gnnntng— talented at besides inane grinning olympic cleavage ttsttaytng— grinning olympic cleavage displaying and being a simpering anteate— displaying and being a simpering atrneate tm— displaying and being a simpering airhead? i'm puzzled, says tim. can— airhead? i'm puzzled, says tim. can t— airhead? i'm puzzled, says tim. can ttwst— airhead? i'm puzzled, says tim. can ttwst say— airhead? i'm puzzled, says tim. can i just say your— airhead? i'm puzzled, says tim. can i just say your emails are getttng— can i just say your emails are getttng mae— can i just say your emails are getting more poetic by the day. it's getting more poetic by the day. tt-s ttme— getting more poetic by the day. tt-s ttme .— getting more poetic by the day. it's time . now,— getting more poetic by the day. it's time . now, speaking of it's time. now, speaking of meta,— it's time. now, speaking of taetm tar— it's time. now, speaking of poetic, for tonight's newsmaker in poetic, for tonight's newsmaker tn wnen— poetic, for tonight's newsmaker tn wnten we— poetic, for tonight's newsmaker in which we speak to a fearless earmnenaartt— in which we speak to a fearless commentator on— in which we speak to a fearless commentator on the big stories of commentator on the big stories at tne— commentator on the big stories at tne tay— commentator on the big stories at tne tay ant— commentator on the big stories of the day and as— commentator on the big stories of the day and as always, on a swntay— of the day and as always, on a swntay tm— of the day and as always, on a sunday, i'm delighted to welcome tarmer— sunday, i'm delighted to welcome former government— sunday, i'm delighted to welcome former government minister testsetttng— former government minister bestselling author and television— bestselling author and television personality and widdecombe,— television personality and widdecombe, as some now predict ug— widdecombe, as some now predict gut tttegat— widdecombe, as some now predict , that illegal crossings in the cnannet— , that illegal crossings in the channel could— , that illegal crossings in the channel could reach over 80,000 tnts— channel could reach over 80,000 tnts year. — channel could reach over 80,000 tnts year. str— channel could reach over 80,000 this year. sir keir— channel could reach over 80,000 this year. sir keir starmer has sart— this year. sir keir starmer has satt ne— this year. sir keir starmer has satt ne nas— this year. sir keir starmer has satt ne nas a— this year. sir keir starmer has said he has a plan to solve this ensts— said he has a plan to solve this crisis, including— said he has a plan to solve this crisis, including tackling the taettag — crisis, including tackling the taettag at— crisis, including tackling the backlog of asylum. asylum atttteattans— backlog of asylum. asylum applications, cooperating with tame— applications, cooperating with tane ant— applications, cooperating with france and dealing with people trattteters— france and dealing with people traffickers at— france and dealing with people traffickers at source. so if he teames— traffickers at source. so if he becomes prime— traffickers at source. so if he becomes prime minister, will it wart— becomes prime minister, will it wart e— becomes prime minister, will it wart t can— becomes prime minister, will it work ? can labour— becomes prime minister, will it work ? can labour stop the boats work? can labour stop the boats 7 work? can labour stop the boats e tnt— work? can labour stop the boats e ant wnat-s— work? can labour stop the boats ? and what's your— work? can labour stop the boats ? and what's your view ? �*ftt�*ticc ? and what's your view? well, you— ? and what's your view? well, yaw tnaw. — ? and what's your view? well, yaw know. a— ? and what's your view? well, you know, a central point is that he wants greater european cooperation. well, that he wants greater european cooperation . well, these boats cooperation. well, these boats are cooperation. well, these boats eamtng— cooperation. well, these boats are coming from _ cooperation. well, these boats are coming from one- c i“ well, these boats are coming from one place. tney-re— are coming from one place. they're coming— are coming from one place. they're coming from france.

we-we— they're coming from france. we-we trtet— they're coming from france. we've tried the— they're coming from france. we've tried the cooperation awte — we've tried the cooperation awte we-we— we've tried the cooperation route. we've given france a load of route. we've given france a load at mney— route. we've given france a load at mney a— route. we've given france a load of money, a shed— route. we've given france a load of money, a shed load of money, not of money, a shed load of money, nat nat— of money, a shed load of money, not once, not twice,— of money, a shed load of money, not once, not twice, three times nave — not once, not twice, three times nave we — not once, not twice, three times nave we gtwen— not once, not twice, three times have we given france money to nett— have we given france money to mm ws— have we given france money to mm ws sart— have we given france money to help us sort the— have we given france money to help us sort the mess out. and tnree— help us sort the mess out. and tnree ttmes— help us sort the mess out. and three times have— help us sort the mess out. and three times have they taken the maney— three times have they taken the maney ant— three times have they taken the money and delivered absolutely atten— money and delivered absolutely ztten. sa— money and delivered absolutely zilch. so forget— money and delivered absolutely zilch. so forget that, keir. rts— zilch. so forget that, keir. tt-s teen— zilch. so forget that, keir. it's been tried. - zilch. so forget that, keir. it's been tried. you know, tnat-s— it's been tried. you know, that's nothing— it's been tried. you know, that's nothing new. it's been met— that's nothing new. it's been trtet ant— that's nothing new. it's been tried and .failed- that's nothing new. it's been tried and .failed .- that's nothing new. it's been tried and failed . then he tried and it's failed. then he says— tried and it's failed. then he says-gatng— tried and it's failed. then he says-gatng ta- tried and it's failed. then he says going to hurry up. the says he's going to hurry up. the asytwm— says he's going to hurry up. the asytwm etatms— says he's going to hurry up. the asylum claims .— says he's going to hurry up. the asylum claims. great. i'm all for asylum claims. great. i'm all tar tnat.— asylum claims. great. i'm all tar tnat. twt— asylum claims. great. i'm all for that. but what— asylum claims. great. i'm all for that. but what happens when at tne— for that. but what happens when at tne ent— for that. but what happens when at tne end at— for that. but what happens when at the end of an— for that. but what happens when at the end of an asylum claim ne-s— at the end of an asylum claim ne-s gatng— at the end of an asylum claim ne-s gatng ta— at the end of an asylum claim ne-s gatng ta say— at the end of an asylum claim he's going to say no? how is he going— he's going to say no? how is he gatng ta— he's going to say no? how is he gatng ta sent— he's going to say no? how is he going to send those people back ? going to send those people back e teawse— going to send those people back e tease ne— going to send those people back ? because he got— going to send those people back ? because he got agreements ttm— ? because he got agreements we, w-wee— ? because he got agreements we, gat— ? because he got agreements like, we've got with albania at the like, we've got with albania at tne mment— like, we've got with albania at tne met .— like, we've got with albania at the moment . what's he going to the moment. what's he going to do? the moment. what's he going to taeltaesn-t— the moment. what's he going to do?.doesn't tell— the moment. what's he going to do?.doesn't tell us. - the moment. what's he going to do? doesn't tell us. it's all do? he doesn't tell us. it's all natn— do? he doesn't tell us. it's all tratn .— do? he doesn't tell us. it's all tratn . rts— do? he doesn't tell us. it's all froth . it's complete froth . it's froth. it's complete froth. it's nat— froth. it's complete froth. it's nat een— froth. it's complete froth. it's not even smoke— froth. it's complete froth. it's not even smoke and mirrors teawse— not even smoke and mirrors because that's— not even smoke and mirrors because that's clever and this tsn-t— because that's clever and this tsn-t een— because that's clever and this isn't even clever— because that's clever and this isn't even clever . c isn't even clever. however, keir starmer argues that he would have a more constructive relations with france and the european union, and that's what would tackle the crisis . i've no would tackle the crisis. i've no doubt that he would- 3 c tc i've no doubt that he would seek closer retattansntts— doubt that he would seek closer relationships that— doubt that he would seek closer relationships that he would give

up relationships that he would give wt wnat— relationships that he would give wt wnat very— relationships that he would give up what very little independence we gat— up what very little independence we gat as— up what very little independence we gat as a— up what very little independence we got as a result— up what very little independence we got as a result of brexit. twe— we got as a result of brexit. t-we na— we got as a result of brexit. i've no doubt— we got as a result of brexit. i've no doubt about that. i've no i've no doubt about that. i've na tawtt— i've no doubt about that. i've no doubt that— i've no doubt about that. i've no doubt that he— i've no doubt about that. i've no doubt that he will align with twrate— no doubt that he will align with twrate ratner— no doubt that he will align with europe rather than becoming eamtettttwe— europe rather than becoming competitive with it. but if he tntnts— competitive with it. but if he tntnts tnat— competitive with it. but if he thinks that that— competitive with it. but if he thinks that that is going to twrate— thinks that that is going to move europe into suddenly eaaterattng— move europe into suddenly cooperating over the small boats , tnen— cooperating over the small boats , tnen ne-s— cooperating over the small boats ,tnen ne-s gat— cooperating over the small boats , then he's got another thing eamtng— , then he's got another thing coming because— , then he's got another thing coming because there record is stan.— coming because there record is ztten. tnt— coming because there record is zilch. and the— coming because there record is zilch. and the idea that if you twst— zilch. and the idea that if you twst ga— zilch. and the idea that if you twst ga ant— zilch. and the idea that if you just go and smile— zilch. and the idea that if you just go and smile and be nice to ttem— just go and smile and be nice to tnem tnat— just go and smile and be nice to tnem tnat an— just go and smile and be nice to them, that can be— just go and smile and be nice to them, that can be that can aentewe— them, that can be that can achieve what— them, that can be that can achieve what money wouldn't aentewe. — achieve what money wouldn't aentewe. t— achieve what money wouldn't achieve. i don't— achieve what money wouldn't achieve. i don't agree. ijust tan-t— achieve. i don't agree. ijust tan-t see— achieve. i don't agree. ijust tan-t tt— achieve. i don't agree. ijust don't see it happening . ' 3 don't see it happening. and what don't see it happening. and what a._.t_ don't see it happening. and what ta-at ttts— don't see it happening. and what ta-at ttts nw- do you make of this new government dissuading government video dissuading albanians from coming to the uk 7 albanians from coming to the uk ? well it's a good message and i'm all for trying to dissuade people. i've said deterrence is wnat— people. i've said deterrence is wnat mates— people. i've said deterrence is what makes it.— people. i've said deterrence is what makes it. but— i've said deterrence is what makes it. but we have to do sametntng— what makes it. but we have to do sametntng mae— what makes it. but we have to do something more than just return atew— something more than just return atew nwntret— something more than just return a few hundred albanians , asylum a few hundred albanians, asylum seeetrs— a few hundred albanians, asylum seekers or illegal— a few hundred albanians, asylum seekers or illegal migrants. we-we— seekers or illegal migrants. we-we gat— seekers or illegal migrants. we-we gat ta— seekers or illegal migrants. we've got to actually return a tew— we've got to actually return a few thousand. _ we've got to actually return a few thousand. and then that's a

deterrent — few thousand. and then that's a deterrent. that's— few thousand. and then that's a deterrent. that's a— few thousand. and then that's a deterrent. that's a deterrent. so deterrent. that's a deterrent. sa tm— deterrent. that's a deterrent. sa t-m att— deterrent. that's a deterrent. so i'm all for— deterrent. that's a deterrent. so i'm all for sending the message. but— so i'm all for sending the message. but the thing that will convince people— message. but the thing that will convince people is— message. but the thing that will convince people is not the words on convince people is not the words an tasters— convince people is not the words an tasters tt-s— convince people is not the words on posters, it's the— convince people is not the words on posters, it's the action that tattng— on posters, it's the action that we're taking that— on posters, it's the action that we're taking that they hear atawt— we're taking that they hear atawt tnat— we're taking that they hear about that makes them decide wnetner— about that makes them decide wnetner tney— about that makes them decide whether they want to pay all tnat— whether they want to pay all tnat maney— whether they want to pay all that money to— whether they want to pay all that money to human trafficking agents— that money to human trafficking agents ar— that money to human trafficking agents at nat. — that money to human trafficking agents or not. i— that money to human trafficking agents or not. ”ti: agents or not. i know you're not his biggest cheerleader, but pretty smart of rishi sunak to stand by his home secretary suella braverman amid that speeding non—story , he well, speeding non—story, he well, what was all the fuss about? she got a speeding ticket. she atteret— she got a speeding ticket. she was offered a— she got a speeding ticket. she was offered a speeding awareness sne— was offered a speeding awareness course. she realised that she wawtt— course. she realised that she wawtt nave— course. she realised that she would have to— course. she realised that she would have to do— course. she realised that she would have to do a lot of other teatte.— would have to do a lot of other teatte. sne— would have to do a lot of other people. she asked— would have to do a lot of other people. she asked a question. tnat-s— people. she asked a question. tnat-s att— people. she asked a question. that's all she— people. she asked a question. that's all she did. she didn't try ta— that's all she did. she didn't try ta enatree— that's all she did. she didn't try to enforce it.— that's all she did. she didn't try to enforce it. she asked a gwesttan— try to enforce it. she asked a question which— try to enforce it. she asked a question which is, is there any way— question which is, is there any way at— question which is, is there any way at tatng— question which is, is there any way of doing this— question which is, is there any way of doing this privately? i wawtt— way of doing this privately? i wawtt nave— way of doing this privately? i would have asked exactly the same question.— would have asked exactly the same question. the answer she got same question. the answer she gat—tnaw- same question. the answer she gat—tnaw antl same question. the answer she. got—know and we're got was, we don't know and we're not-investigate- not going to investigate because wee—sa- not going to investigate because we-re—sa tnen- we're civil servants. so then sne—attteel we're civil servants. so then. she _office and she asked her own office and men— she asked her own office and then-decided,— she asked her own office and then-decided, no,- she asked her own office and then decided, no, there then she decided, no, there wasnt— then she decided, no, there wasnt any— then she decided, no, there wasnt any way— then she decided, no, there wasn't any way of doing it trtwatety.— wasn't any way of doing it privately-she'd- wasn't any way of doing it privately. she'd the privately. so she'd take the tatnts. —

privately. so she'd take the points. .asked - privately. so she'd take the points. asked her question, points. she asked her question, you— points. she asked her question, yaw tnaw— points. she asked her question, yaw tnaw wnat— points. she asked her question, you know what is— points. she asked her question, you know what is wrong with asttng— you know what is wrong with askinglquestion_ you know what is wrong with asking question ? not asking a question? it's not as if asking a question? it's not as tt sne— asking a question? it's not as tt sne trtet— asking a question? it's not as if she tried fiddle the if she tried to fiddle the system. — if she tried to fiddle the system. well,- if she tried to fiddle the system. �*ftt�*ticc tcgtit if she tried to fiddle the- system. well, i've got to say, i'd be very entertained doing a speed course with ann speed awareness course with ann widdecombe. that would be a very diverting experience . ann, diverting experience. ann, briefly, you can, we haven't briefly, if you can, we haven't spoken since the official statistics came out that over 600,000 people entered the country legally in the last year . there are those arguing it's good for the economy, that we need the cheap labour and that we need the young population. what's your view of these figures and the scale of them? well they're far too high coming from a government that has persistently promised to get the numbers down. you know, david cameran tt— numbers down. you know, david cameran t was— numbers down. you know, david cameron, it was going- 3 you know, david cameron, it was going to be water— cameron, it was going to be under 250,000. _ cameron, it was going to be under 250,000. we've had all tnese— under 250,000. we've had all these promises,— under 250,000. we've had all these promises, tens of thousands— these promises, tens of thousands even. we got down to at ane— thousands even. we got down to at tatnt. — thousands even. we got down to at one point. and— thousands even. we got down to at one point. and yet nothing nas— at one point. and yet nothing nas teen— at one point. and yet nothing has been delivered. so i think it's has been delivered. so i think tt-s-ta— has been delivered. so i think tt-s-ta stat— has been delivered. so i think it's to stop looking just it's time to stop looking just at—ant- it's time to stop looking just at—ant start| at the raw figures and start taattng— at the raw figures and start taattng at— at the raw figures and start looking at what— at the raw figures and start looking at what these categories are looking at what these categories . taw— looking at what these categories . vaw tnaw— looking at what these categories are . you know, some are are. you know, some are stwtents— are. you know, some are students, some- are. you know, some are students, some are skilled workers. what—

students, some are skilled workers. what sort of skills, ntgn— workers. what sort of skills, ntgn tewet— workers. what sort of skills, high level skills— workers. what sort of skills, high level skills , low level high level skills, low level stttts— high level skills, low level skills that— high level skills, low level skills that we _ high level skills, low level skills that we should expect our teatte — skills that we should expect our teatte an— skills that we should expect our own people on the— skills that we should expect our own people on the dole to do, taw— own people on the dole to do, vaw tnaw— own people on the dole to do, vaw tnaw we— own people on the dole to do, you know, we need actually you know, we need to actually taat— you know, we need to actually taat naw— you know, we need to actually taat at— you know, we need to actually look now at the— you know, we need to actually look now at the categories . look now at the categories. tnteet— look now at the categories. tnteet. st.— look now at the categories. indeed. so, ann— look now at the categories. indeed. so, ann ,_ look now at the categories. indeed. so, ann , before- look now at the categories. indeed. so, ann , before you go, indeed. so, ann, before you go, you are always very forthright, very articulate, but you're always exquisite , tailored. and always exquisite, tailored. and i've got great news about a great british company headquartered in the uk that pays its taxes here. and its marks. and spencer marks and spencer have defied the critics and are enjoying record profits bits. so has the public fallen back in love with m&s? do you go to m&s an well, i used to go to m&s a very great deal because i wanted something that was reasonable quality but also reasonable quality but also reasonable price. and that's gwtte— reasonable price. and that's gwtte a— reasonable price. and that's quite a difficult— c and that's quite a difficult combination . quite a difficult combination. twt— quite a difficult combination. twt tnen— quite a difficult combination. but then gradually i used to go tnta— but then gradually i used to go tnta was— but then gradually i used to go tnta was ant— but then gradually i used to go into m&s and instead of being as it into m&s and instead of being as t wset— into m&s and instead of being as t wset ta— into m&s and instead of being as t wset ta te— into m&s and instead of being as it used to be, it's— into m&s and instead of being as it used to be, it's divided up tnta— it used to be, it's divided up into concessions,— it used to be, it's divided up into concessions, just like any tetanment— into concessions, just like any department store— into concessions, just like any department store was trying to be department store was trying to te sametntng— department store was trying to be something which it's not now

. i be something which it's not now . t tntnt— be something which it's not now . i think marks— be something which it's not now . i think marks and— be something which it's not now . i think marks and spencer's tetng— . i think marks and spencer's tetng wnat— . i think marks and spencer's being what everybody expects. warts— being what everybody expects. warts ant — being what everybody expects. marks and spencer's to be, which tsn-t— marks and spencer's to be, which tsn-t anatner— marks and spencer's to be, which isn't another harrods. it's a ttace— isn't another harrods. it's a ttace wnere— isn't another harrods. it's a place where you- isn't another harrods. it's a place where you get good value , place where you get good value, you place where you get good value, yaw get— place where you get good value, yaw get gaat— place where you get good value, you get good quality for that watwe— you get good quality for that watwe ant— you get good quality for that value, and you— you get good quality for that value, and you can see immediately- value, and you can see immediately where to go and what it is immediately where to go and what tt ts yaw— immediately where to go and what tt ts yaw want— immediately where to go and what it is you want and— immediately where to go and what it is you want and where it's ttsttayet— it is you want and where it's ttsttayet. t— it is you want and where it's displayed. i walk round, i mean, atmtttetty— displayed. i walk round, i mean, atmtttetty tt— displayed. i walk round, i mean, admittedly it was— displayed. i walk round, i mean, admittedly it was oxford street, wntcn— admittedly it was oxford street, wntcn ts— admittedly it was oxford street, wntcn ts yaw— admittedly it was oxford street, which is, you know, one of the enormous ones,— which is, you know, one of the enormous ones, but i walk around for enormous ones, but i walk around tar ages— enormous ones, but i walk around tar ages trytng— enormous ones, but i walk around for ages trying-find— for ages trying to find something— for ages trying to find something knew for ages trying to find- something-knew exactly something that i knew exactly wnat— something that i knew exactly wnatlwantect— something that i knew exactly what wanted, but i couldn't what i wanted, but i couldn't tnt— what i wanted, but i couldn't ttnt wnere— what i wanted, but i couldn't find where it— what i wanted, but i couldn't find where it was. yeah that's atways— find where it was. yeah that's atways tne — find where it was. yeah that's always the problem . ' “3 always the problem. and we know wnere— always the problem. and we know where you every sunday where to find you every sunday night on mark tonight night here on mark dolan tonight . always a thrill. we'll catch you a week's time. a you in a week's time. have a have a great week. my thanks to ann widdecombe. have you fallen back love with m&s? i'm very back in love with m&s? i'm very proud of our great british brand . it's not just m&s proud of our great british brand . next, it's not just m&s proud of our great british brand . next, what it's not just m&s proud of our great british brand . next, what a it's not just m&s proud of our great british brand . next, what a greatot just m&s proud of our great british brand . next, what a great business. lls . next, what a great business. they pretty much invented the idea of next delivery. what idea of next day delivery. what about at primark? great value happy days . john lewis. there happy days. john lewis. there are plenty of good shops out

there. try not to give all your money to amazon , right? money to amazon, right? headquartered somewhere obscure in europe and not paying as much tax as they blinking. well should so folks, lots more to come. we've got the papers next with full pundit reaction and tonight's front page heroes and back page zeros . lots to come. back page zeros. lots to come. see you

we're proud to be gb news the teatte-s— we're proud to be gb news the people's channel. “ people's channel. britain's. news welcome— people's channel. britain's. news welcome back- people's channel. “ \r welcome back to the show. news welcome back to the show. taat— news welcome back to the show. taat, tne— news welcome back to the show. look, the emails— news welcome back to the show. look, the emails are— \r welcome back to the show. look, the emails are coming in tntct— look, the emails are coming in tntct ant— look, the emails are coming in thick and fast.— look, the emails are coming in thick and fast. have you fallen tact— thick and fast. have you fallen tact tn— thick and fast. have you fallen tact tn tave— thick and fast. have you fallen back in love with— thick and fast. have you fallen back in love with ms? there trattts— back in love with ms? there mats are— back in love with ms? there profits are through the roof. wett— profits are through the roof. wett nat— profits are through the roof. well not gibson, who says marks ant— well not gibson, who says marks ant stencer-s— well not gibson, who says marks and spencer's are— well not gibson, who says marks and spencer's are a— well not gibson, who says marks and spencer's are a disgrace to manttnt— and spencer's are a disgrace to manttnt. tney— and spencer's are a disgrace to mankind. they refuse to serve you— mankind. they refuse to serve yaw ant— mankind. they refuse to serve yaw ant sent— mankind. they refuse to serve you and send you— mankind. they refuse to serve you and send you to self serve. they— you and send you to self serve. tney are— you and send you to self serve. tney a— you and send you to self serve. they are a disgraceful shop, not entaytng— they are a disgraceful shop, not entaytng tne— they are a disgraceful shop, not enjoying the self— they are a disgraceful shop, not enjoying the self service there on enjoying the self service there an trw— enjoying the self service there an ttv ant— enjoying the self service there on itv and whether they should act tnts— on itv and whether they should act this morning— on itv and whether they should act this morning .— on itv and whether they should act this morning . itv needs to act this morning. itv needs to be investigated,— act this morning. itv needs to be investigated, says kyle. mere— be investigated, says kyle. tnere are— be investigated, says kyle. there are people who knew what gatng— there are people who knew what gatng an— there are people who knew what was going on, and— there are people who knew what was going on, and the young man was going on, and the young man a tay—

was going on, and the young man a tay at— was going on, and the young man a tay at rt. — was going on, and the young man was a boy of 15. when philip met mm.— was a boy of 15. when philip met ntm. we— was a boy of 15. when philip met ntm. we ta— was a boy of 15. when philip met him. we do know— was a boy of 15. when philip met him. we do know that story has teen— him. we do know that story has been corroborated— him. we do know that story has been corroborated by the mail on swntay. — been corroborated by the mail on swntay. .tatte— been corroborated by the mail on sunday.-katie hind- been corroborated by the mail on sunday. katie hind wasn't . sunday. and katie hind wasn't. why— sunday. and katie hind wasn't. wny tsn-t— sunday. and katie hind wasn't. wny tsn-t tnere— sunday. and katie hind wasn't. why isn't there an— sunday. and katie hind wasn't. why isn't there an investigation tnta— why isn't there an investigation tnta tnat— why isn't there an investigation into that being— why isn't there an investigation into that being a— why isn't there an investigation into that being a person in a tastttan— into that being a person in a tastttan at— into that being a person in a position of power in uk law, states— position of power in uk law, states relations— position of power in uk law, states relations with under 18 or states relations with under 18 an re— states relations with under 18 an re ts— states relations with under 18 or over 16 is illegal. okay taat— or over 16 is illegal. okay taat, tet-s— or over 16 is illegal. okay look, let's get— or over 16 is illegal. okay look, let's get back to the reswtts— look, let's get back to the reswtts at— look, let's get back to the results of our— look, let's get back to the results of our of our twitter tatt— results of our of our twitter tatt we-we — results of our of our twitter poll. we've been asking you, do you— poll. we've been asking you, do yaw tntnt— poll. we've been asking you, do yaw tntnt tnat— poll. we've been asking you, do you think that labour would stop the you think that labour would stop tne taatse— you think that labour would stop the boats? the— you think that labour would stop the boats? the results are in. they— the boats? the results are in. tney are— the boats? the results are in. tney tar— the boats? the results are in. they are for sir— the boats? the results are in. they are for sir keir starmer. twe— they are for sir keir starmer. t-we gat— they are for sir keir starmer. t-we gat ta— they are for sir keir starmer. t-we gat ta say— they are for sir keir starmer. t-we gat ta say .— they are for sir keir starmer. i've got to say , 94% say no. 6% i've got to say, 94% say no. 6% say— i've got to say, 94% say no. 6% say yes.— i've got to say, 94% say no. 6% say yes. t-tt— i've got to say, 94% say no. 6% say yes. t-tt get— i've got to say, 94% say no. 6% say yes. i'll get reaction from my— say yes. i'll get reaction from my top— say yes. i'll get reaction from my tat twnttts— say yes. i'll get reaction from my top pundits next. it is time tar— my top pundits next. it is time tar tnts— my top pundits next. it is time tar tnts .— my top pundits next. it is time now for this . okay. we've got now for this. okay. we've got tomorrow's front— now for this. okay. we've got tomorrow's front pages, as atways— tomorrow's front pages, as atways at— tomorrow's front pages, as always, at 1030- tomorrow's front pages, as always, at 1030 every friday, satwrtay. — always, at 1030 every friday, saturday. and _ always, at 1030 every friday, saturday. and sunday, the independent— saturday. and sunday, the independent white house, if uk wan-t— independent white house, if uk wan-t gwe— independent white house, if uk won't give asylum _ independent white house, if uk won't give asylum to afghan war nera— won't give asylum to afghan war ago, we— won't give asylum to afghan war ago, we wtt— won't give asylum to afghan war hero, we will look— won't give asylum to afghan war hero, we will look into it. tnat-s— hero, we will look into it. tnat-s an— hero, we will look into it. that's an ongoing campaign from the independent— that's an ongoing campaign from the independent that no one's tattng— the independent that no one's tattng mwcn— the independent that no one's taking much notice of the i newstater— taking much notice of the i newspaper super market bosses

hit newspaper super market bosses ntt tact— newspaper super market bosses ntt tact at— newspaper super market bosses hit back at pm's_ newspaper super market bosses hit back at pm's plan to cap taat— hit back at pm's plan to cap taat trtces— hit back at pm's plan to cap food prices, something i debated wttn— food prices, something i debated wttn my— food prices, something i debated wttn my twnttts— food prices, something i debated with my pundits earlier in the snaw— with my pundits earlier in the snaw. watt— with my pundits earlier in the show. matt police to stop going to show. matt police to stop going ta mentat— show. matt police to stop going to mental health— show. matt police to stop going to mental health call outs, say tne— to mental health call outs, say tne cwarttan— to mental health call outs, say the guardian and— to mental health call outs, say the guardian and erdogan retain his the guardian and erdogan retain nts natt— the guardian and erdogan retain nts natt an— the guardian and erdogan retain his hold on turkey— the guardian and erdogan retain his hold on turkey in election natty— his hold on turkey in election win. daily express supermarkets trtce— win. daily express supermarkets trtce cat— win. daily express supermarkets warn price cap will not reduce taat— warn price cap will not reduce taat tttts— warn price cap will not reduce food bills and— warn price cap will not reduce food bills and kylie at 55 ttrtntay— food bills and kylie at 55 ttnntay gtrt— food bills and kylie at 55 birthday girl still in the fast tame— birthday girl still in the fast tane atsa— birthday girl still in the fast lane also in— birthday girl still in the fast lane also in the— birthday girl still in the fast lane also in the express holly ta— lane also in the express holly ta stay— lane also in the express holly vows to stay as— lane also in the express holly vows to stay as itv fights to tnts— vows to stay as itv fights to save this morning. and in taattatt— save this morning. and in taattatt .— save this morning. and in football , good- save this morning. and in football , good news to my football, good news to my trttttant— football, good news to my brilliant viewers and listeners in brilliant viewers and listeners tn tterseystte— brilliant viewers and listeners in merseyside ,_ brilliant viewers and listeners in merseyside , or at least half in merseyside, or at least half of in merseyside, or at least half at n,— in merseyside, or at least half at n, tne— in merseyside, or at least half of it, the blue— in merseyside, or at least half of it, the blue half everton swwtwe— of it, the blue half everton swrwtwe an— of it, the blue half everton survive on day— of it, the blue half everton survive on day of drama. i've got— survive on day of drama. i've gat ta— survive on day of drama. i've gat ta say,— survive on day of drama. i've got to say, though, i'm gutted for got to say, though, i'm gutted tar teets— got to say, though, i'm gutted for leeds going— got to say, though, i'm gutted for leeds going down, partly tecawse— for leeds going down, partly because it's— for leeds going down, partly because it's a— for leeds going down, partly because it's a beautiful city. tnt— because it's a beautiful city. and secondly,— because it's a beautiful city. and secondly, my good friend sam tttartyce— and secondly, my good friend sam tttartyce ts— and secondly, my good friend sam allardyce is the— and secondly, my good friend sam allardyce is the manager. ttnanctat— allardyce is the manager. financial times ease repub tmcan— financial times ease repub duncan chiefs— financial times ease repub duncan chiefs try to quell

retatt— duncan chiefs try to quell revolt with _ duncan chiefs try to quell revolt with debt default teatttne— revolt with debt default deadline looming. this is the extraordinary— deadline looming. this is the extraordinary debt ceiling in the extraordinary debt ceiling in tne wnttet— extraordinary debt ceiling in the united states , which is just the united states, which is just trttttans— the united states, which is just trttttans at— the united states, which is just trillions of dollars, which has got trillions of dollars, which has gat ta— trillions of dollars, which has gat ta te— trillions of dollars, which has gat ta te a— trillions of dollars, which has got to be a concern for global economic security— got to be a concern for global economic security . arnie the economic security. arnie the natty— economic security. arnie the tatty watt— economic security. arnie the daily mail now— economic security. arnie the daily mail now tv doctor hits awt— daily mail now tv doctor hits awt at— daily mail now tv doctor hits awt at ranc— daily mail now tv doctor hits out at toxic. this— daily mail now tv doctor hits out at toxic. this morning. itv crtsts— out at toxic. this morning. itv crtsts .— out at toxic. this morning. itv crtsts . mts— out at toxic. this morning. itv crisis. this deepens as dr. ranj says— crisis. this deepens as dr. ranj says tne— crisis. this deepens as dr. ranj says, tne snaw— crisis. this deepens as dr. ranj says, the show had a culture of twttytng— says, the show had a culture of twttytng ant— says, the show had a culture of bullying and schofield's lover temes— bullying and schofield's lover tentes tnat— bullying and schofield's lover denies that bosses quizzed him tnetr— denies that bosses quizzed him over their affair— denies that bosses quizzed him over their affair .— denies that bosses quizzed him over their affair . are we going over their affair. are we going to over their affair. are we going ta near— over their affair. are we going ta near tram — over their affair. are we going to hear from this— over their affair. are we going to hear from this young man? tnat-s— to hear from this young man? tnat-s gat— to hear from this young man? tnat-s gat ta— to hear from this young man? that's got to be— to hear from this young man? that's got to be the million tattar— that's got to be the million dollar question,— that's got to be the million dollar question, one i'll be twtttng— dollar question, one i'll be twtttng ta— dollar question, one i'll be twtttng ta my— dollar question, one i'll be putting to my pundits shortly . putting to my pundits shortly. tnt— putting to my pundits shortly. ant tast— putting to my pundits shortly. ant tast twt— putting to my pundits shortly. and last but not— putting to my pundits shortly. and last but not least, for now , natty— and last but not least, for now , tatty g..— and last but not least, for now , daily star, unusually serious neatttne— , daily star, unusually serious headline from _ , daily star, unusually serious headline from the star this marntng— headline from the star this marntng .— headline from the star this morning . crisis— headline from the star this morning . crisis dr. ranj blasts morning. crisis dr. ranj blasts twtty— morning. crisis dr. ranj blasts twtty cwttwre— morning. crisis dr. ranj blasts bully culture at— morning. crisis dr. ranj blasts bully culture at itv . fired bully culture at itv. fired tecawse— bully culture at itv. fired because he _ bully culture at itv. fired because he tried to blow the wntstte — because he tried to blow the wntstte .— because he tried to blow the whistle , something my good whistle, something my good ment— whistle, something my good trtent ant— whistle, something my good friend and colleague dan wootton says— friend and colleague dan wootton says nattenet— friend and colleague dan wootton says nattenet ta— friend and colleague dan wootton says happened to him . says happened to him. effectively _ says happened to him. effectively not fired, but an wtttmatwm — effectively not fired, but an ultimatum that— effectively not fired, but an ultimatum that either he

swattaws— ultimatum that either he swallows the _ ultimatum that either he swallows the nonsense or he takes— swallows the nonsense or he takes tne— swallows the nonsense or he takes the paycheque . and dan, takes the paycheque. and dan, tetng— takes the paycheque. and dan, tetng a— takes the paycheque. and dan, tetng a man— takes the paycheque. and dan, tetng a at— takes the paycheque. and dan, being a man of honour, said, i'm out being a man of honour, said, i'm awt at— being a man of honour, said, i'm awt at nee.— being a man of honour, said, i'm out of here. well,— being a man of honour, said, i'm out of here. well, that's what teatte— out of here. well, that's what teatte wttn— out of here. well, that's what people with principles look twe.— people with principles look ttte. tet— people with principles look like. let me— people with principles look like. let me tell you, dan waattan— like. let me tell you, dan wootton back— like. let me tell you, dan wootton back tomorrow at nine. tet-s— wootton back tomorrow at nine. tet-s get— wootton back tomorrow at nine. let's get reaction— wootton back tomorrow at nine. let's get reaction to tomorrow's trant— let's get reaction to tomorrow's trant tages— let's get reaction to tomorrow's trant tages-agany- let's get reaction to tomorrow's front pages agony aunts and front pages with agony aunts and awtnar— front pages with agony aunts and author-freeman— front pages with agony aunts and author-freeman ,- front pages with agony aunts and author freeman , tv news author hilary freeman, tv news tegent— author hilary freeman, tv news tegena john— author hilary freeman, tv news legend john sergeant and tawrnattst— legend john sergeant and journalist and— legend john sergeant and journalist and broadcaster linda jubilee— journalist and broadcaster linda twtttee .— journalist and broadcaster linda twtttee , star— journalist and broadcaster linda jubilee , star of— journalist and broadcaster linda jubilee , star of a— journalist and broadcaster linda jubilee , star of a top political jubilee, star of a top political tatcast— jubilee, star of a top political tatcast .— jubilee, star of a top political podcast , which— jubilee, star of a top political podcast , which is called common podcast, which is called common sense— podcast, which is called common sense politics,— podcast, which is called common sense politics, politics, rattttcs— sense politics, politics, politics, common sense politics, wntcn— politics, common sense politics, wntcn yaw— politics, common sense politics, wntcn yaw ta— politics, common sense politics, which you do with— politics, common sense politics, which you do with with a tantasttc— which you do with with a fantastic chap— which you do with with a fantastic chap who's a regular on fantastic chap who's a regular an my— fantastic chap who's a regular an my tatan— fantastic chap who's a regular on my dolan slot.— fantastic chap who's a regular on my dolan slot. give it a ttsten— on my dolan slot. give it a ttsten .— on my dolan slot. give it a ttsten . we— on my dolan slot. give it a listen . we need- on my dolan slot. give it a listen . we need a bit of common listen. we need a bit of common tn tnts— listen. we need a bit of common sense in this country, don't we? ttwawsty— sense in this country, don't we? ttwawsty tats— sense in this country, don't we? obviously lots of— sense in this country, don't we? obviously lots of headlines atawt— obviously lots of headlines atawt tne— obviously lots of headlines about the supermarket price cap, wntcn— about the supermarket price cap, wntcn yawe— about the supermarket price cap, which you're not— about the supermarket price cap, which you're not having . not which you're not having. not because, linda,— which you're not having. not because, linda, you think that tnere— because, linda, you think that tnere tsn-t— because, linda, you think that tnere em a— because, linda, you think that there isn't a moral case for it. taw— there isn't a moral case for it. vaw twst— there isn't a moral case for it. raw twst tan-t— there isn't a moral case for it. you just don't think it works in tracttcat— you just don't think it works in practical terms? _ you just don't think it works in practical terms? �*ftt�*ticc c practical terms? well, it's not just practical terms. i think there are logistical, difficult dufies there are logistical, difficult duties with it. for example, it talks the price talks about dropping the price of that's already dropped of milk that's already dropped quite of milk that's already dropped quhe soi of milk that's already dropped quite so i don't quite substantially. so i don't think people are necessarily

paying think people are necessarily paying attention where they paying attention to where they have already been. falls do have already been. falls i do appreciate that people are really, really suffering . i'm i really, really suffering. i'm i feel the pinch when i go to the supermarket now. so it's really serious. not just about serious. it's not just about practical cities. it's about economics. it's about whether actually putting a price cap on destroys free market economics, supply and demand and actually builds problems for the future in terms of job losses, in terms of reducing margins for smaller supermarkets. if of reducing margins for smaller supermarkets . if the government supermarkets. if the government are supermarkets. if the government netttng— supermarkets. if the government netttng teatte— if the government are helping people with their energy— are helping people with their energy tttts— are helping people with their energy bills, which i think we can agree was the right thing to do can agree was the right thing to ta ant— can agree was the right thing to do and businesses,— can agree was the right thing to do and businesses, why wouldn't you do and businesses, why wouldn't yaw ta— do and businesses, why wouldn't yaw ta tnat— do and businesses, why wouldn't you do that with— do and businesses, why wouldn't you do that with bread, milk and eggs,— you do that with bread, milk and eggs-wnen— you do that with bread, milk and eggs-wncn ttts- you do that with bread, milk and eggs, when kids are eggs, especially when kids are tnwatwete — eggs, especially when kids are. involved? _saying involved? because i am saying that it will not make a difference to inflation if ultimately, think it ultimately, do you think it would feed inflation? it might do, will be these do, but there will be these other problems with reduced margins for smaller supermarkets, investment supermarkets, lack of investment . it will harm competitiveness and, you know what tesco and aldi will do? they'll just put the aldi will do? they'll just put tne trtce— aldi will do? they'll just put me trtce at— 3 cc 3it7 they'll just put the price of everything else up, wan-t—tney-tt- the price of everything else up, wan-t—tney-tt geti won't they? they'll they'll get tnetr— won't they? they'll they'll get tnetr maney— won't they? they'll they'll get their money somehow. john

tecawse— their money somehow. john because that's— their money somehow. john because that's businesses because that's how businesses wart. — because that's how businesses wart. _ttat-s— because that's how businesses work. _that's how- because that's how businesses work. _that's how they. because that's how businesses work. but i think the other strange this is that strange thing about this is that the market certainly for milk and for bread, they're fairly controlled anyway terms of controlled anyway in terms of these agreements between the farmers supermarkets . so farmers and the supermarkets. so and just feel that this is and you just feel that this is a sort of band aid policy where you try and sort of stop this going it'd be so going on, whereas it'd be so much sensible, i think, to much more sensible, i think, to say, look, let's invest in british production of food . british production of food. absolutely. because and let's invest in it. let's make sure there are more farmers producing more goods. and this , frankly. more goods. and this, frankly. well, it's almost the right time of year, but it's late, isn't it, in terms of making sure that should be the brexit bonus , is should be the brexit bonus, is that we produce more of our own? yeah, we've i don't want to pick it, yeah, we've i don't want to pick a, nave— yeah, we've i don't want to pick a, nave — yeah, we've i don't want to pick it, have we. well— yeah, we've i don't want to pick it, have we. well i— yeah, we've i don't want to pick it, have we. �*ftt�*ticc 3“ c it, have we. well i don't know. i mean it, have we. well i don't know. t we— it, have we. well i don't know. i mean we have— it, have we. well i don't know. i mean we have what,- it, have we. well i don't know. i mean we have what, 5- it, have we. �*ftt�*ticc 3“ c i mean we have what, 5 million warttng— i mean we have what, 5 million warttng age— i mean we have what, 5 million working age adults, not active in working age adults, not active tn tne— working age adults, not active in the economy— working age adults, not active in the economy at the moment. were— in the economy at the moment. we-we gat— in the economy at the moment. were gat ttst— in the economy at the moment. we've got pick fruit.— in the economy at the moment. we've got pick fruit. well- in the economy at the moment. we've got pick fruit. well if- we've got pick fruit. well if i had to i've some odd jobs had to i've done some odd jobs in the past. i've picked fruit wnen— in the past. i've picked fruit wnen t— in the past. i've picked fruit wnen t was— in the past. i've picked fruit wnen t a— in the past. i've picked fruit when i was a kid.- “ i've picked fruit when i was a kid. we loved it. we— when i was a kid. we loved it. we wee— when i was a kid. we loved it. we gtwen— when i was a kid. we loved it. we were given a— when i was a kid. we loved it. we were given a pound a day. tnat-s— we were given a pound a day. tnat-s tretty— we were given a pound a day. that's pretty good money, tetenttng—

that's pretty good money, tetenttng an— that's pretty good money, depending on many plums or depending on how many plums or wnatewer— depending on how many plums or whatever-picked.— depending on how many plums or whatever picked. was whatever we'd picked. but it was twn. — whatever we'd picked. but it was twn. itawet— whatever we'd picked. but it was fun. .loved that— whatever we'd picked. but it was fun. .loved that we- whatever we'd picked. but it was fun. loved that we went out fun. we loved that we went out were— fun. we loved that we went out tnere wttn— fun. we loved that we went out tnere wttn my— fun. we loved that we went out there with my mother would three cntttren. — children. my mother. we'd arrive in children. my mother. we'd arrive tn a— children. my mother. we'd arrive tn a ttttte— children. my mother. we'd arrive tn a ttttte car— children. my mother. we'd arrive in a little car and— children. my mother. we'd arrive in a little car and we'd pick trwtt— in a little car and we'd pick twt-tnt- in a little car and we'd pick. fruit-and-rich, fruit all day. and we were rich, reatty— fruit all day. and we were rich, reatty-arter— fruit all day. and we were rich, really-after that. - fruit all day. and we were rich, really after that. �*ftt�*“ti”ti really rich after that. where was-ty— really rich after that. where was-ty tne— really rich after that. where was by the way? really rich after that. where was-by the way? nearj was this, by the way? near oxford. nice. lovely, lovely. tnt— oxford. nice. lovely, lovely. ant twt— oxford. nice. lovely, lovely. ant twt tne— oxford. nice. lovely, lovely. and but the-is,- oxford. nice. and but the is, though, and but the issue is, though, tnat— and but the issue is, though, that-messaging- and but the issue is, though, that messaging of this is that the messaging of this is swrtnstng— that the messaging of this is surprising conservative surprising from a conservative tmme— surprising from a conservative trtme-tsn-t- surprising from a conservative trtme-tsn-t rte- surprising from a conservative prime isn't it? the prime minister, isn't it? the ttea— prime minister, isn't it? the ttea at— prime minister, isn't it? the ttea at trtce— prime minister, isn't it? the idea of price control smacks of testerattan— idea of price control smacks of desperation, is— idea of price control smacks of desperation, is it? c c desperation, is it? it smacks of desperation. you don't desperation. and you just don't feel through. feel they'll follow through. they're it would be they're saying it would be entirely . well, now, entirely voluntary. well, now, unless you were giving the supermarket something and a lot , why would they why would they mess up their own plans and mess up with their own plans and what were to be what they were meant to be doing? also, they're very doing? and also, they're very interested in loss leaders in supermarkets. so if people come in and they see something as cheap and they then think, oh , cheap and they then think, oh, this is a supermarket, i would like to go to, that's part of their strategy . that's the age their strategy. that's the age old marketing strategy of supermarkets . but they keep a supermarkets. but they keep a lot of that secret . but they lot of that secret. but they want to go on doing it

themselves. thank you very much. not having the government involved, which makes it more complicated more complicated and more bureaucratic. greg if you don't mind, would you get that text poll up, the labour text poll about boats, because about stop the boats, because i thought john sergeant that this was a pretty poll result for the leader of the opposition. there are many people that- 3 c i“ there are many people that watch this cnannet— are many people that watch this cnannet tnat— are many people that watch this channel that watch the show and ttsten— channel that watch the show and ttsten ta— channel that watch the show and ttsten ta tt— channel that watch the show and ttsten ta tt an— channel that watch the show and listen to it on the— channel that watch the show and listen to it on the radio who are disgruntled— listen to it on the radio who are disgruntled former labour tes— are disgruntled former labour tes wna— are disgruntled former labour voters who lent— are disgruntled former labour voters who lent boris johnson tnetr— voters who lent boris johnson tnetr wate— voters who lent boris johnson tnetr wate tn— voters who lent boris johnson their vote in 2019. but they tan-t— their vote in 2019. but they tan-t taat— their vote in 2019. but they don't look like _ their vote in 2019. but they don't look like they're going to go don't look like they're going to ga tact— don't look like they're going to ga tact ta— don't look like they're going to go back to labour— don't look like they're going to go back to labour in a hurry. here-s— go back to labour in a hurry. nere-s tne— go back to labour in a hurry. here's the text— go back to labour in a hurry. here's the text poll question ant— here's the text poll question ant gat— here's the text poll question and we've got a— here's the text poll question and we've got a massive response to and we've got a massive response ta ttts— and we've got a massive response ta tnts. ta— and we've got a massive response ta tnts. ta yaw— and we've got a massive response to this. do you think— and we've got a massive response to this. do you think labour wawtt— to this. do you think labour wawtt stat— to this. do you think labour would stop the— to this. do you think labour would stop the boats and 93.9% of would stop the boats and 93.9% at awr— would stop the boats and 93.9% of our viewers— would stop the boats and 93.9% of our viewers and— would stop the boats and 93.9% of our viewers and listeners say no, of our viewers and listeners say tnts— of our viewers and listeners say tnts ts— of our viewers and listeners say tnts ts gatng— of our viewers and listeners say no, this is going to— of our viewers and listeners say no, this is going to be a trattem — no, this is going to be a problem for— no, this is going to be a problem for keir starmer in a years— problem for keir starmer in a yeas ttme.— problem for keir starmer in a year's time. isn't— problem for keir starmer in a year's time. isn't it? �*ftt�*ticc year's time. isn't it? well, tts— year's time. isn't it? well, it atsa— year's time. isn't it? well, it's also remember , you're it's also remember, you're asking another question, too, although you may not mean to which are who are your voters and the key point is that when people are asked that sort of question, which most people would doubt, are you going to be able to stop the boats? can it

be done like that with keir be done just like that with keir starmer's unlikely starmer's record? is it unlikely 7 starmer's record? is it unlikely ? arnie the answer is it is ? arnie the two answer is it is unlikely , but people who unlikely, but the people who would normally , in answer to would normally, in answer to a poll like that , would be ardent poll like that, would be ardent labour supporters who would just simply was simply knowing that it was a critical would reply , critical question would reply, yes, he'll be able to do that. you know, and they want they'll use the word yes. but in your audience , yes, they're much less audience, yes, they're much less likely to be fervent labour supporters. yes, likely to be fervent labour supporters . yes, well, you say supporters. yes, well, you say tag,— supporters. yes, well, you say that, twt— supporters. yes, well, you say that, but we've— supporters. yes, well, you say that, but we've got— supporters. yes, well, you say that, but we've got so- yes, well, you say that, but we've got so many ant— that, but we've got so many viewers and listeners in the red watt— viewers and listeners in the red watt-wna— viewers and listeners in the red wall-who have— viewers and listeners in the red wall who have been voting wall seats who have been voting tatawr— wall seats who have been voting tatawr tar— wall seats who have been voting labour for generations. sure. twt— labour for generations. sure. twt tney-re— labour for generations. sure. twttney-re-ty- labour for generations. sure. but they're by watching but they're now, by watching tnese— but they're now, by watching these programmes , they're not in these programmes, they're not in these programmes, they're not in tne maat— these programmes, they're not in tne maat ta— these programmes, they're not in the mood to-keir_ these programmes, they're not in the mood to keir starmer, the mood to say keir starmer, rtgnt— the mood to say keir starmer, rtgnt ar— the mood to say keir starmer, rtgnt ar wrang— the mood to say keir starmer, right or wrong, we'll back him. tnat-s— right or wrong, we'll back him. tnat-s wnat— right or wrong, we'll back him. that's what i'm— right or wrong, we'll back him. that's what i'm saying.- right or wrong, we'll back him. that's what i'm saying. i'm- right or wrong, we'll back him. that's what i'm saying. i'm not saying then the 93% goes saying you then the 93% goes down to zero. the boats is do you— down to zero. the boats is do yaw tntnt— down to zero. the boats is do you think illegal— 3 the boats is do you think illegal immigration is a ret— you think illegal immigration is a ret nerrtng— you think illegal immigration is a red herring that's over a red herring that's being over awerttayete — a red herring that's being over overplayed? _it's- a red herring that's being over overplayed? c cgit overplayed? it's just it's got to credible, what to be credible, though. what people as you've seen people won't do, as you've seen in the turkish elections, just now, opposition leader , you now, the opposition leader, you may this, that may have heard this, said that 3 million syrians should leave turkey . well, people thought.

turkey. well, people thought. right, it's last minute. but won't that sway the vote in his direction ? and it hasn't. we direction? and it hasn't. we know that now today it hasn't. but, john, just to press the tatnt— but, john, just to press the tatnt tar— but, john, just to press the point for anyone watching or ttstentng— point for anyone watching or listening that's— point for anyone watching or listening that's concerned about the listening that's concerned about tne-tttegat— listening that's concerned about the-illegal and- listening that's concerned about the illegal and legal the levels of illegal and legal mtgrattan— the levels of illegal and legal migration country, migration into this country, swrety— migration into this country, swrety wan-t— migration into this country, surely won't vote labour enthusiastically. well it tetents— enthusiastically. well it depends what happens between now and depends what happens between now ant tnen. — depends what happens between now ant tnen. twt— depends what happens between now and then. but they— depends what happens between now and then. but they need- depends what happens between now and then. 3 3 and then. but they need to build up a policy seem up a policy that will seem credible, just we agree with credible, not just we agree with stop boats we're going to stop the boats or we're going to do something . they've to do something. no, they've got to have proper a detailed policy. have a proper a detailed policy. labour yes . have a proper a detailed policy. labour yes. so have a proper a detailed policy. labour yes . so that over have a proper a detailed policy. labour yes. so that over time , labour yes. so that over time, over the 12 months, 18 months thatis over the 12 months, 18 months that is left , they can then go that is left, they can then go on saying , that is left, they can then go on saying, but we intend to do this and we intend to do that and so on, then they might have and so on, then they might have a chance of making headway in this area which is traditionally not their area . but isn't that not their area. but isn't that trectsety— not their area. but isn't that trectsety tne — ” ritctirit but isn't that precisely the problem with keir starmer— precisely the problem with keir starmer ts— precisely the problem with keir starmer is that— precisely the problem with keir starmer is that he's coming out wttn— starmer is that he's coming out wttn tnese— starmer is that he's coming out with these cut— starmer is that he's coming out with these cut and— starmer is that he's coming out with these cut and paste soundbites_ with these cut and paste soundbites and that's all they are soundbites and that's all they . ta— soundbites and that's all they are . do we ever— soundbites and that's all they are . do we ever hear anything are. do we ever hear anything tnat— are. do we ever hear anything that underpins— are. do we ever hear anything that underpins them? do we hear

the that underpins them? do we hear tne tnstgntse— that underpins them? do we hear the insights? do— that underpins them? do we hear the insights? do we hear the tatae— the insights? do we hear the data? ta— the insights? do we hear the data? ta we— the insights? do we hear the data? do we hear ? ' 3 �*7 data? do we hear? and what if he changes his mind in a year's time? john well, they can't do tnat.— time? john well, they can't do tnat. taw— time? john well, they can't do tnat. vaw see— time? john well, they can't do that. you see, once— c 7 john well, they can't do that. you see, once you're into tney-re— that. you see, once you're into they're effectively— that. you see, once you're into they're effectively in the camtatgn— they're effectively in the campaign now where they whether tney— campaign now where they whether tney ttte — campaign now where they whether tney ttte tt— campaign now where they whether tney ttte tt ar— campaign now where they whether they like it or not,— campaign now where they whether they like it or not, this is the camtatgn-s— they like it or not, this is the campaign's started already. so tney-we— campaign's started already. so tney-we gat— campaign's started already. so tney-we gat ta— campaign's started already. so they've got to be— campaign's started already. so they've got to be in that camtatgntng— they've got to be in that campaigning mood, which means tattcy— campaigning mood, which means policy, reiteration— campaigning mood, which means policy, reiteration of policy ant— policy, reiteration of policy and repeating— policy, reiteration of policy and repeating it over and over agatn— and repeating it over and over agatn sa— and repeating it over and over agatn sa tnat— and repeating it over and over again so that people know what tnetr— again so that people know what tnetr tattcy— again so that people know what tnetr tattcy ts— again so that people know what their policy is and— again so that people know what their policy is and why it tttters— their policy is and why it differs from _ their policy is and why it differs from the conservative tattcy— differs from the conservative tattcy ant— differs from the conservative tattcy ant tne— differs from the conservative policy and the lib dems. they've got policy and the lib dems. they've gat a— policy and the lib dems. they've gat a tang— policy and the lib dems. they've gat a tang way— policy and the lib dems. they've gat a tang way ta— policy and the lib dems. they've got a long way to go. tv/tirit“ got a long way to go. yeah, tiny.— got a long way to go. yeah, nttary. t— got a long way to go. yeah, hilary, i mean, what goodies do you think keir starmer has up his sleeve? because he's got a year now to demonstrate he should be our next prime minister. john's saying that there to be substance there needs to be substance to back promise stop the back up his promise to stop the boats. do you think he's boats. but do you think he's sitting a war chest of ideas? sitting on a war chest of ideas? i that there probably are i think that there probably are an of ideas that are an awful lot of ideas that are being that haven't being discussed that haven't haven't yet. ithink haven't come out yet. i think they're haven't come out yet. i think tney-re ttttng— haven't come out yet. i think they're biding their- “ c c gttflc i think they're biding their time, watttng— they're biding their time, watttng ta— they're biding their time, waiting to announce them. don't teat— waiting to announce them. don't teat taa— waiting to announce them. don't teat taa saan— waiting to announce them. don't peak too soon. yeah, don't peak taa— peak too soon. yeah, don't peak taa tnt— peak too soon. yeah, don't peak too soon. and also,— peak too soon. yeah, don't peak too soon. and also, you know,

wat— too soon. and also, you know, wait-government- too soon. and also, you know, wait government to screw wait for the government to screw it wait for the government to screw ttlagatn— wait for the government to screw ttlagatn ant— wait for the government to screw it.again and-keep- wait for the government to screw it again and keep on it up again and to keep on mattng— it up again and to keep on making unpopular decisions. i mean-tne— making unpopular decisions. i mean-the boats- making unpopular decisions. i mean-the boats being. mean is stop the boats being oversold conservative oversold by the conservative gives as the political silver bullet? don't it is bullet? i don't think it is because i think people genuinely are about it. but are concerned about it. but what's mean, what's your view? i mean, i think i think we've actually got i heard something on the radio of the day. somebody was actwatty— of the day. somebody was actually saying— ce�*gt somebody was actually saying that we ccg somebody was actually saying that we actually meet— actually saying that we actually need more immigration in because tnere-s— need more immigration in because tnere-s-a— need more immigration in because tnere-s-a snartage— need more immigration in because there's a shortage of there's such a shortage of tactars— there's such a shortage of doctors and _ there's such a shortage of doctors and nurses. i doctors and nurses. so i actwatty— doctors and nurses. so i. actually-saying doctors and nurses. so i- actually-saying that actually think that saying that tmmtgrattan— actually think that saying that immigration is— actually think that saying that immigration is the issue is actwatty— immigration is the issue is actwatty nat— immigration is the issue is actually not the case. and teatte— actually not the case. and teatte are— actually not the case. and people are going to start reattstng— people are going to start realising that— people are going to start realising that do have realising that we do have a snartage— realising that we do have a snanage at— realising that we do have a shortage of lots— realising that we do have a shortage of lots of people in in in shortage of lots of people in in tn tntngs— shortage of lots of people in in tn tntngs ttte— shortage of lots of people in in in things like the— shortage of lots of people in in in things like the health sewtce— in things like the health serwtce .— in things like the health service . yeah.- in things like the health service . yeah. and that you service. yeah. and that you tnaw— service. yeah. and that you tnaw tnts— service. yeah. and that you know, this just— service. yeah. and that you know, this just just people have a strang— know, this just just people have a strong dislike— know, this just just people have a strong dislike of— know, this just just people have a strong dislike of illegal immigration— a strong dislike of illegal immigration. cg“ immigration. that's right. controlled immigration is a different thing. they hate the idea that people are jumping the queue and they're all sorts of able people who are filling in the properly and they're the forms properly and they're arriving a boat. that is arriving on a boat. and that is arriving on a boat. and that is a very big emotional feeling. and you might almost say it's

got very little to do with immigration policy as such. it's just real, real deep seated anger and disturbance. it's the opposite of what they say and it's human nature, isn't it, to be unsettled by folk arriving on boats, running for the hills , boats, running for the hills, chucking their documents and phones into the water as they cross the channel > it's an wnetttytng— cross the channel > it's an unedifying spectacle- cross the channel > it's an unedifying spectacle ,- c “ > it's an unedifying spectacle , and it's unedifying spectacle, and it's not unedifying spectacle, and it's nat naw— unedifying spectacle, and it's nat naw a— unedifying spectacle, and it's not how a functioning country snawtt— not how a functioning country snawtt wot,— not how a functioning country should work, is— not how a functioning country should work, is it, without tetng— should work, is it, without tetng tn— should work, is it, without tetng tn any— should work, is it, without being in any way xenophobic? i mean, you look,— being in any way xenophobic? i mean, you look, there are tttterent— mean, you look, there are different categories as you've rtgntty— different categories as you've rtgntty tatntet— different categories as you've rightly pointed out, john, of tmmtgrants. — rightly pointed out, john, of immigrants. cg immigrants. the afghans, for example, are evacuees . yeah, example, are evacuees. yeah, they were they were taken airlifted off the tarmac. hong kong hong kong is they're different to ukrainians. different as well . but the different as well. but the resistance here is against illegal immigrants coming over on inflatable . interesting you on inflatable. interesting you snawtt— on inflatable. interesting you snawtt say. — on inflatable. interesting you should say. david— i“ interesting you should say. david cameron put tnat— should say. david cameron put tnat twt— should say. david cameron put tnat twt tt— should say. david cameron put that put it well. _ should say. david cameron put that put it well. ti 3 that put it well. he said people think that they are invading that they're breaking into our country , breaking into our country, breaking into our country. i thought that was quite clever. the cameron said tnat— quite clever. the cameron said tnat retwgees— quite clever. the cameron said that refugees have— c c the cameron said that refugees have been treated

in that refugees have been treated tn tnts— that refugees have been treated tn tnts cawntry. — that refugees have been treated in this country. no, necessarily it's in this country. no, necessarily tt-s-ttat-s— in this country. no, necessarily it's-that's not- in this country. no, necessarily it's-that's not the- in this country. no, necessarily it's-that's not the case.| it's not. that's not the case. no that's not the case because people fact, often and often people in fact, often and often for all sorts reasons , for all sorts of reasons, certainly after second world certainly after the second world war, of came war, all sorts of people came here, perfectly legally and here, but perfectly legally. and lots come legally lots of people come here legally . so it's not a matter of, oh, they can't come in other they can't come in any other way. 15,000 afghans came here tram— way. 15,000 afghans came here tram arter— way. 15,000 afghans came here from after the _ 15,000 afghans came here from after the falklands of mem— from after the falklands of tnem tens— from after the falklands of them, tens thousands. ' “3 “ them, tens of thousands. and in them, tens of thousands. and in the-tats— them, tens of thousands. and in the-lotslpeople- them, tens of thousands. and in the lots people came and the war, lots of people came and lots jewish people came and lots of jewish people came and had to be. and there's a lot of mytnatagy— had to be. and there's a lot of mytnatagy atawt— had to be. and there's a lot of mythology about how- “cc and there's a lot of mythology about how easy it was for mythology about how easy it was tar tnem— mythology about how easy it was tar tnem ta— mythology about how easy it was for them to come.— mythology about how easy it was for them to come. i'm not saying it for them to come. i'm not saying t was— for them to come. i'm not saying tt easy,— for them to come. i'm not saying tt easy, twt— for them to come. i'm not saying it was easy, but they came. cast.— it was easy, but they came. cast. tney— it was easy, but they came. gosh, they came— it was easy, but they came. gosh, they came enormous gosh, they came in enormous numbers certainly some of numbers and certainly some of the people. yeah well, well the top people. yeah well, well , let's let's an elaborate argument let's not go into them ended up being. no let's not go into this sort of no because the arguments always last when we start comparing it with the holocaust. so that is just one of those arguments that are so big. sure. but once you start introducing the family history, well, tell me. no, no, i'm sure tecawse— well, tell me. no, no, i'm sure because because _ well, tell me. no, no, i'm sure because because you- no, no, i'm sure because because you feel that ternats— because because you feel that perhaps britain's— because because you feel that perhaps britain's historic

generastty— perhaps britain's historic generosity-of . perhaps britain's historic- generosity-of refugees generosity in terms of refugees is overstated _ generosity in terms of refugees is overstated slightly or. team — is overstated slightly or. yeah, |think_ is overstated slightly or. - yeah, ithink - overstated. yeah, i think it's overstated. i think there's been i think there's always been swsttctan. — i think there's always been swsttctan. t— i think there's always been suspicion. i think that people nave— suspicion. i think that people nave-tamt— suspicion. i think that people have-found it- suspicion. i think that people have found it difficult have always found it difficult to have always found it difficult ta-nere— have always found it difficult ta-nere tn— have always found it difficult to-here in before- have always found it difficult to here in before the to come here in before the secant— to come here in before the second world— to come here in before the second world war, when the secant— second world war, when the second world _ second world war, when the second world war, when the second world war started, people had second world war started, people nat ta— second world war started, people nat ta get— second world war started, people had to get sponsorship in order second world war started, people hacome et sponsorship in order second world war started, people hacome here.)nsorship in order second world war started, people hacome here. theyihip in order second world war started, people hacome here. they hadin order second world war started, people hacome here. they had to )rder second world war started, people hacome here. they had to have to come here. they had to have taterwart.— to come here. they had to have paperwork. couldn't get paperwork. you couldn't just get on paperwork. you couldn't just get anltaat— paperwork. you couldn't just get anltaat-twm— paperwork. you couldn't just get onlboat-turn up.- paperwork. you couldn't just get on boat turn up. boats on a boat and turn up. boats twrnet— on a boat and turn up. boats were turned away, not just from tnts— were turned away, not just from we cawntry— were turned away, not just from this country, but— were turned away, not just from this country, but from other cawnttes— this country, but from other countries america you countries as well. america you tnaw— countries as well. america you tnaw-a— countries as well. america you know,-a massive- countries as well. america you know, a massive history of know, has a massive history of tne— know, has a massive history of the-documentary- the british documentary about it. the british documentary about tt—tnt- the british documentary about t. _tnt yean- the british documentary about it._and yeah, andj it. i've seen it. and yeah, and i-itu_ it. i've seen it. and yeah, and t-yaw-targetl i think, you know, we forget tnat— i think, you know, we forget tnat a— i think, you know, we forget tnat anat— i think, you know, we forget that a .of these - i think, you know, we forget that a of these people that a lot of these people arrtwng— that a lot of these people arnwng an— that a lot of these people arriving on boats are genuine. tnt— arriving on boats are genuine. tntltntnt— arriving on boats are genuine. tntltntnt-yaw- arriving on boats are genuine. and think you know, and i think that, you know, we're-we don't- and i think that, you know, we're we don't like we're because we don't like taattng—a- we're because we don't like taattng—a wayl we're because we don't like. looking—a way that we're because we don't like- looking_a way that we looking at them in a way that we tum— looking at them in a way that we tum our— looking at them in a way that we tum anger— looking at them in a way that we turn our anger on— looking at them in a way that we turn our anger on them. /:::. turn our anger on them. you know.— turn our anger on them. you know. its— turn our anger on them. you know. its .— turn our anger on them. you know, it's a horrendous conditions of the holocaust. to repeat about it. repeat the arguments about it. it's difficult to go back it's very difficult to go back to the 30s and say it's the to the 30s and say it's like the 30s. that's all i'm saying. be very careful as gary lineker found out, you once you're into that it's like , well, i'm that area, it's like, well, i'm not it's not like anything i'm not it's not like anything i'm not the current not comparing the current situation 30s. what i'm situation to the 30s. what i'm saying is situation to the 305. what i'm saying is that— situation to the 305. what i'm saying is that you— situation to the 305. what i'm saying is that you are- " 3d: what i'm saying is that you are you're saying—

saying is that you are you're saying remember that for saying you remember that for your— saying you remember that for your family— saying you remember that for your family history. 0:1. saying you remember that for your family history. 411. your family history. you know what— your family history. you know what-like— your family history. you know what like with some people what it's like with some people here fill in forms in here who had to fill in forms in the 1930s. once talking the 1930s. once you're talking about you're talking about the 1930s, you're talking about the 1930s, you're talking about lead up to the about the lead up to the holocaust. not are we holocaust. sorry, not you are we look aslef rose tinted look back at aslef rose tinted this country so welcoming to. i'm saying that i don't i'm not saying that i don't think— i'm not saying that i don't think mai— i'm not saying that i don't think that that's necessarily rose tinted. _ think that that's necessarily rose tinted. .not- think that that's necessarily rose tinted. i'm not no rose tinted although he tinted i'm not no although he likes that's another likes rose but that's another story. listen let's let's get to some _stories_ story. listen let's let's get to some _stories after- soy listen let's let's get to some stories after the some more stories after the break.— some more stories after the break. vie-ve— some more stories after the break. we've got- some more stories after the break. we've got the time is on its way. — break. we've got the time is on its way. and— break. we've got the time is on its way. and also— break. we've got the time is on its way. and also a— break. we've got the time is on its way. and also a pretty expiosive— its way. and also a pretty explosive headline about holly iiiiiougiiiy— explosive headline about holly wiiiougiiy in— explosive headline about holly willoughby in tomorrow's daily mirror— willoughby in tomorrow's daily mirror .— willoughby in tomorrow's daily mirror. that's— willoughby in tomorrow's daily mirror. that's coming up in two minutes— mirror. that's coming up in two minutes time.— mirror. that's coming up in two minutes time. plus my pundits wiii— minutes time. plus my pundits wiii be— minutes time. plus my pundits will be nominating their head“...— will be nominating their headline, heroes and back page ani— headline, heroes and back page and i— headline, heroes and back page zero. and i want— headline, heroes and back page zero. and i want to— headline, heroes and back page zero. and i want to know yours. gb zero. and i want to know yours. 65 news— zero. and i want to know yours. sis news sin.— zero. and i want to know yours. gb news .com. see— zero. and i want to know yours. gb news .com. see you shortly .

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hi mark. why— on illegal migration, alan says hi mark. why can— on illegal migration, alan says hi mark. why can the government not sensi— hi mark. why can the government not send a— hi mark. why can the government not send a message— hi mark. why can the government not send a message to those neonis— not send a message to those people waning— not send a message to those people wanting to come across on snnii— people wanting to come across on snnii ionis— people wanting to come across on small boats that— people wanting to come across on small boats that if— people wanting to come across on small boats that if they arrive witness— small boats that if they arrive without their— small boats that if they arrive without their identity documents or without their identity documents on passport.— without their identity documents on passport they— without their identity documents or passport, they would not qualify— or passport, they would not qualify-even— or passport, they would not qualify-even be- or passport, they would not qualify even be considered qualify to even be considered for qualify to even be considered ion-ii— qualify to even be considered ion-ii tney- qualify to even be considered for-if they have- qualify to even be considered for if they have the for asylum. if they have the documents.— for asylum. if they have the documents, they _ for asylum. if they have the documents, they can apply. well, i documents, they can apply. well, i ininn— documents, they can apply. well, i ininn ins— documents, they can apply. well, i think the plan,— documents, they can apply. well, i think the plan, alan, is nsinniiy— i think the plan, alan, is nsinniiy ii— i think the plan, alan, is actually if you - i think the plan, alan, is actually if you enter the country— actually if you enter the country illegally, you will not receive asylum _ country illegally, you will not receive asylum .— country illegally, you will not receive asylum . look, keep receive asylum. but look, keep inoss— receive asylum. but look, keep insss snniis— receive asylum. but look, keep those emails coming. mark at gb news— those emails coming. mark at gb news aunus— those emails coming. mark at gb news qus .— those emails coming. mark at gb news aukus . com. _ those emails coming. mark at gb news aukus . com. we've got news aukus. com. we've got a sewnie— news aukus. com. we've got a sewnie none— news aukus. com. we've got a couple more headlines now. let's newe— couple more headlines now. let's newe e— couple more headlines now. let's newe e neon— couple more headlines now. let's newe a new ei— couple more headlines now. let's have a look at the— couple more headlines now. let's have a look at the times newsnenen— have a look at the times newspaper. and actually, they we— newspaper. and actually, they cover the migrant story . british cover the migrant story. british neiiee— cover the migrant story. british neiiee nie— cover the migrant story. british neiiee we is— cover the migrant story. british police bid to stop— cover the migrant story. british police bid to stop migrants leaving— police bid to stop migrants leaving africa— police bid to stop migrants leaving africa police from the neiienei— leaving africa police from the national crime— leaving africa police from the national crime agency will help sewnwes— national crime agency will help centres in— national crime agency will help countries in north— national crime agency will help countries in north africa to identify— countries in north africa to ieeniiiw ene— countries in north africa to identify and break up people snwggiing— identify and break up people smuggling gangs in an attempt to stop smuggling gangs in an attempt to step en— smuggling gangs in an attempt to sien an expected— smuggling gangs in an attempt to stop an expected surge of nunenees— stop an expected surge of hundreds of— stop an expected surge of hundreds of thousands of migrants— hundreds of thousands of migrants trying to leave the continent— migrants trying to leave the continent for— migrants trying to leave the continent for europe this summer . wise.— continent for europe this summer . nse. neon— continent for europe this summer . also, poor maternity care left us in— . also, poor maternity care left us in nansen— . also, poor maternity care left us in danger, say— . also, poor maternity care left us in danger, say i— . also, poor maternity care left us in danger, sayi in us in danger, say i in 4 mowers.— us in danger, say i in 4 mothers, deeply concerning an nis— mothers, deeply concerning an nws stow-— mothers, deeply concerning an nhs story. there— mothers, deeply concerning an nhs story. there and the daily

winer— nhs story. there and the daily ninen .— nhs story. there and the daily ninen . en— nhs story. there and the daily mirror , an exclusive. it's that mirror, an exclusive. it's that snew— mirror, an exclusive. it's that snew seein— mirror, an exclusive. it's that show again this— mirror, an exclusive. it's that show again this morning. holly i'll show again this morning. holly i-n ne— show again this morning. holly m be sewing— show again this morning. holly i'll be staying this morning . i'll be staying this morning. sien— i'll be staying this morning. star wows— i'll be staying this morning. star vows to _ i'll be staying this morning. star vows to carry on if itv bosses— star vows to carry on if itv bosses can save— star vows to carry on if itv bosses can save the show. okay. inese— bosses can save the show. okay. inese ene— bosses can save the show. okay. inese sene— bosses can save the show. okay. those are some of— bosses can save the show. okay. those are some of your front pages.— those are some of your front pages. lei-s— those are some of your front pages. lei-s gei— those are some of your front pages. let's get reaction now inn— pages. let's get reaction now from winn— pages. let's get reaction now from hilary freeman john. sergeant— from hilary freeman john. sergeant and— from hilary freeman john. sergeant and linda jubilee. my top sergeant and linda jubilee. my ion nwneiis— sergeant and linda jubilee. my top pundits tonight and hilary neiw— top pundits tonight and hilary holly dickson— top pundits tonight and hilary holly dickson . _ top pundits tonight and hilary holly dickson . �*fw�*iz;1 holly dickson. well, she thinks she's staying , but it's not she's staying, but it's not really up to her. it's not her decision, is it.7 it's up to itv. and i think i don't see how she can stay and i think that she she still has a career. i think that she can present other shows. but i think she probably needs to go and have a break for a few months and then come back and do something else. i think she can't, you know, whether whether or not this morning continues, can continues, i don't think she can carry presenting it, linda. carry on presenting it, linda. that's what i think. she

that's exactly what i think. she needs— that's exactly what i think. she needs we— that's exactly what i think. she needs ie-e— that's exactly what i think. she needs to-a break.- that's exactly what i think. she needs to a break. she can needs to take a break. she can been.— needs to take a break. she can come back. she— needs to take a break. she can come back. she could come back in—snes— come back. she could come back in—snes nei- come back. she could come back in _she's not you i in another role. she's not you knew.— in another role. she's not you know,-blighted,- in another role. she's not you know, blighted, not know, she's blighted, but not permanentlv- — know, she's blighted, but not newneneniw. i— know, she's blighted, but not permanently. i would say it'll be permanently. i would say it'll ne—ins— permanently. i would say it'll be_this week- permanently. i would say it'll be _this week if. permanently. i would say it'll be this week if the be interesting this week if the identity— be interesting this week if the identity ei— be interesting this week if the identity of the _ be interesting this week if the identity of the younger male eeneeewe— identity of the younger male colleague-out- identity of the younger male colleague-out .- identity of the younger male colleague-out . i- identity of the younger male colleague out . i mean, colleague comes out. i mean, its— colleague comes out. i mean, its needy— colleague comes out. i mean, it's already out— colleague comes out. i mean, it's already out in— colleague comes out. i mean, it's already out in certain areas , as such- it's already out in certain areas , as such as the whole of areas, as such as the whole of we— areas, as such as the whole of we iniennei— areas, as such as the whole of the internet .— areas, as such as the whole of the internet . so— areas, as such as the whole of the internet . so i— areas, as such as the whole of the internet . so i think we're the internet. so i think we're inw— the internet. so i think we're inns in— the internet. so i think we're that far from _ the internet. so i think we're that far from seeing the identity— that far from seeing the identity and— that far from seeing the identity and that will just give the identity and that will just give we wneie— identity and that will just give the whole thing— identity and that will just give the whole thing the whole story . answer— the whole thing the whole story . answer nwsn— the whole thing the whole story , another push and then i think we win— , another push and then i think we win see— , another push and then i think we will see holly— , another push and then i think we will see holly departs for an eenw— we will see holly departs for an eer swnnnne— we will see holly departs for an early summer holiday. you've been— early summer holiday. you've been in— early summer holiday. you've been in fleet— early summer holiday. you've been in fleet street for a long, none— been in fleet street for a long, ieng sinne- — been in fleet street for a long, long time. you've— been in fleet street for a long, long time. 411. 1“ been in fleet street for a long, long time. 141 1“ been in fleet street for a long, long time. 411. 1“ long time. you've seen a few kiss and tells this would be the mother of all kiss and tell stories. if this young man decides to sell his story to the press, imagine the deal. decides to sell his story to the press, imagine the deal . a tv press, imagine the deal. a tv show, exclusive interview on well, let's hope gb news. but somewhere a book deal, newspaper interviews , serialisation. he interviews, serialisation. he could make a fortune. and i think he'll have— could make a fortune. and i think he'll have to- could make a fortune. and i think he'll have to do- f: and i think he'll have to do that because— think he'll have to do that because john— think he'll have to do that because john and i were talking a time— because john and i were talking n time iii— because john and i were talking a little bit earlier— because john and i were talking a little bit earlier on, but i

win— a little bit earlier on, but i wink ne— a little bit earlier on, but i think he will— a little bit earlier on, but i think he will have to do that because— think he will have to do that nese i— think he will have to do that because i don't— think he will have to do that because i don't know what's going— because i don't know what's going ss— because i don't know what's going ts ne— because i don't know what's going to be left— because i don't know what's going to be left of his career at going to be left of his career es iiv. — going to be left of his career es iiv. i— going to be left of his career at itv. i mean,— going to be left of his career at itv. i mean, someone with a neer— at itv. i mean, someone with a really established— at itv. i mean, someone with a really established career who wes-in— really established career who wes-in e— really established career who wes-in e in— really established career who was-in a in an- really established career who was in a in an almost was in a in a in an almost unassailable— was in a in a in an almost unassailable position might ssnsieen— unassailable position might consider not— unassailable position might consider not selling their story . ens— consider not selling their story . ens i— consider not selling their story . ens i wink— consider not selling their story . but i think he— consider not selling their story . but i think he can be swayed to te— . but i think he can be swayed to be persuaded— . but i think he can be swayed to be persuaded to do it because he to be persuaded to do it because ne sen-s— to be persuaded to do it because he can't possibly— to be persuaded to do it because he can't possibly be in a senior position.— he can't possibly be in a senior position. no.— he can't possibly be in a senior position. no, no. _ he can't possibly be in a senior position. no, no. will position. no, no. well, that's right. an and coming right. he's an up and coming producer. i think we can't name him. what do you him. but listen, what do you know? because you've your know? because you've got your ear the what do you ear to the ground. what do you think going to happen? do you think is going to happen? do you think is going to happen? do you think there's more to come? for example, going example, do you think it's going to schofield? to get worse for schofield? i think it could get worse, yeah . think it could get worse, yeah. it just depends on the details sies— it just depends on the details ties wis— it just depends on the details that this young— it just depends on the details that this young man reveals. isiens. — that this young man reveals. isigni. sente— that this young man reveals. right. could some of those rumours that— right. could some of those rumours that are circulating sniine— rumours that are circulating online which— rumours that are circulating online which the moment we online which at the moment we onw— online which at the moment we can only assume— online which at the moment we can only assume are downright nes— can only assume are downright lies,-potential- can only assume are downright lies, potential that lies, is there a potential that new— lies, is there a potential that they-be— lies, is there a potential that they-be verified- lies, is there a potential that they be verified and then they could be verified and then wes— they could be verified and then ties wsnie— they could be verified and then that would really— they could be verified and then that would really go for nuclear snene-s— that would really go for nuclear snene-s eiwews— that would really go for nuclear there's always the— that would really go for nuclear there's always the if he if he sews— there's always the if he if he sews ensi— there's always the if he if he talks and he— there's always the if he if he talks and he goes on the record .nnene-s— talks and he goes on the record , there's always— talks and he goes on the record , there's always considerable nssensiei— , there's always considerable potential for— , there's always considerable potential for the— , there's always considerable potential for the whole thing to get e— potential for the whole thing to get e greet— potential for the whole thing to get e greet teet— potential for the whole thing to get a great deal worse. i mean

tew— get a great deal worse. i mean new ts— get a great deal worse. i mean new to wsn— get a great deal worse. i mean how do you characterise say he is— how do you characterise say he is wten— how do you characterise say he was 15 when schofield met him wiisn— was 15 when schofield met him wtisn is— was 15 when schofield met him which is what— was 15 when schofield met him which is what the— was 15 when schofield met him which is what the mail on sunday is tetie— which is what the mail on sunday is tetie nint— which is what the mail on sunday is katie hind suggests is said to is katie hind suggests is said ts te— is katie hind suggests is said to be is— is katie hind suggests is said to be is ent— is katie hind suggests is said to be 15 and that— is katie hind suggests is said to be 15 and that would that wsntt— to be 15 and that would that wsntt neen— to be 15 and that would that would mean you— to be 15 and that would that would mean you could map it out nnsnentw— would mean you could map it out nnsnentw tese— would mean you could map it out properly because he— would mean you could map it out properly because he got to about 18 properly because he got to about is wten— properly because he got to about is wten te— properly because he got to about 18 when he went— properly because he got to about 18 when he went to— properly because he got to about 18 when he went to a job on itv. ne-s— 18 when he went to a job on itv. wes—eens- 18 when he went to a job on itv.i he's—adult. remember he's actually an adult. remember ttitin— he's actually an adult. remember philip schofield's— he's actually an adult. remember philip schofield's comments are very— philip schofield's comments are wen senetnttw— philip schofield's comments are very carefully worded. you know, it es— very carefully worded. you know, it en— very carefully worded. you know, it en en— very carefully worded. you know, it was an on off— very carefully worded. you know, it was an on off relationship . it was an on off relationship. it it was an on off relationship. it es— it was an on off relationship. it nst— it was an on off relationship. it was not unlawful or illegal, tnt— it was not unlawful or illegal, tnt tiere— it was not unlawful or illegal, but there are— it was not unlawful or illegal, but there are really grey areas newe— but there are really grey areas tene etsnt— but there are really grey areas here about what— but there are really grey areas here about what went on with tits— here about what went on with ttis tew— here about what went on with we tsw wten— here about what went on with this boy when he— here about what went on with this boy when he was 15. how wtet— this boy when he was 15. how wtet wsntt— this boy when he was 15. how what would constitute grooming, for what would constitute grooming, ten exempte— what would constitute grooming, ten example e — what would constitute grooming, for example ? will for example? well, yeah, i mean, that's it, john, he described the relationship as as as unwise , but not illegal. probably a good description of you and mary. but, know , the whole mary. but, you know, the whole different context. you would mention— different context. you would mention nee — different context. you would mention meg had— different context. you would mention meg had to- t: ”tort; toning you would mention meg had to get t: ”ti;”ti;1 oi:1ti;k

don't suddenly sort of say, wen. i— don't suddenly sort of say, well, i won't— don't suddenly sort of say, well, i won't i— don't suddenly sort of say, well, i won't i won't talk to you— well, i won't i won't talk to wen nntit— well, i won't i won't talk to you until you're— well, i won't i won't talk to you until you're 18. i won't tessnne— you until you're 18. i won't become friends— you until you're 18. i won't become friends with you until wen-e— become friends with you until wen-e is.— become friends with you until you're 18. because i become friends with you until you're18. because i mean , it's you're 18. because i mean, it's tte— you're 18. because i mean, it's tie wists— you're 18. because i mean, it's the whole area— you're 18. because i mean, it's the whole area seems to be extraordinarily— the whole area seems to be extraordinarily difficult . and extraordinarily difficult. and the extraordinarily difficult. and tie nnsnnent— extraordinarily difficult. and the moment the young man, if he tees— the moment the young man, if he tees tesite— the moment the young man, if he does decide to— the moment the young man, if he does decide to talk— the moment the young man, if he does decide to talk up, the wtste — does decide to talk up, the wtste thingi— does decide to talk up, the whole thing, then goes right up in tie— whole thing, then goes right up in tie stw. — whole thing, then goes right up in the sky. absolutely. because he in the sky. absolutely. because ne tte— in the sky. absolutely. because ne tne tint— in the sky. absolutely. because he the first question because nett— he the first question because ne-n ne— he the first question because he'll be ghosted_ he the first question because he'll be ghosted by somebody. etew. — he'll be ghosted by somebody. etew. tett— he'll be ghosted by somebody. okay- tett ne— he'll be ghosted by somebody. okay- tett ne .— he'll be ghosted by somebody. okay. tell me , when you met okay. tell me, when you met nnitin— okay. tell me, when you met nnitin sown.— okay. tell me, when you met philip covid, what were the what were—twee- were the conditions like? when did were the conditions like? when tit—tnen- were the conditions like? wheni did _then what did you next see him then what happened?— did you next see him then what happened? ween— did you next see him then what happened? yeah and then you happened? yeah and then when you did happened? yeah and then when you tit-see— happened? yeah and then when you tit-see nine— happened? yeah and then when you did-see him? what— happened? yeah and then when you did see him? what your did you see him? what on your tetn— did you see him? what on your istn-vsn— did you see him? what on your istn-vsn-it-sl 18th birthday? you know, it's very— 18th birthday? you know, it's very potentially— 18th birthday? you know, it's very potentially incriminating, this very potentially incriminating, we test. — very potentially incriminating, this lad. how— very potentially incriminating, this lad. how much- very potentially incriminating, this lad. 1.o o: very potentially incriminating, this lad. 1o o: very potentially incriminating, this lad. i1.o o: ztti;7’ this lad. how much could he be? could he make half £1 million? i don't know whether he'd want to because that's going to that will his future career will tarnish his future career forever. it won't be taken senisnstw. — forever. it won't be taken. seriously. _who's seriously. katie hind, who's owns-stew.— seriously. katie hind, who's owns story, she's nailed it owns this story, she's nailed it at owns this story, she's nailed it et tne— owns this story, she's nailed it et tne neit— owns this story, she's nailed it at the mail on— owns this story, she's nailed it at the mail on sunday. t: at the mail on sunday. she said tnet— at the mail on sunday. she said tnet ste— at the mail on sunday. she said that she understands that he doesn't live lie and doesn't want to live a lie and that he doesn't want to toe the line terms of. schofield. so line in terms of. schofield. so i wonder whether he might speak out i think he out at some point. i think he nient— out at some point. i think he nient ts. — out at some point. i think he nignt ts. i— out at some point. i think he might do. |think_ out at some point. i think he might do. i think the- i think he might do. i think the really sad

tnine— might do. i think the really sad tnine tst— might do. i think the really sad thing for everybody with this is tnet— thing for everybody with this is tnetltnis— thing for everybody with this is thatlthis had— thing for everybody with this is that this had come out when that if this had come out when nnitin— that if this had come out when nnitin-snt— that if this had come out when nnitin-snt es— that if this had come out when philip out as being gay, that if this had come out when philip is out as being gay, that if this had come out when philip is why)ut as being gay, that if this had come out when philip is why he as being gay, that if this had come out when philip is why he came ng gay, that if this had come out when philip is why he came outjay, that if this had come out when philip is why he came out as, which is why he came out as being— which is why he came out as neing new.— which is why he came out as neing new. i— which is why he came out as being gay, i believe , then you being gay, i believe, then you knew.— being gay, i believe, then you tnewlwsntt— being gay, i believe, then you know,.would it— being gay, i believe, then you know, would it probably could know, it would it probably could newe— know, it would it probably could newe .— know, it would it probably could newe . wsn— know, it would it probably could have . you know,— know, it would it probably could have . you know, philip might not have. you know, philip might not newe— have. you know, philip might not newe snwiwet— have. you know, philip might not have survived it,— have. you know, philip might not have survived it, but it wsnttn-t— have survived it, but it wouldn't have been such a big teet— wouldn't have been such a big teet tst— wouldn't have been such a big deal for this— wouldn't have been such a big deal for this morning. okay. i tnint—it-s- think it's i think it's associated- think it's i think it's associated what's think it's i think it's— associated .what's happened associated with what's happened witn — associated with what's happened witn nnitin-s— associated with what's happened with philip's brother. it's got new— with philip's brother. it's got neer—ei with philip's brother. it's got- neer—e nigger really become much more a bigger stew— really become much more a bigger stew . — really become much more a bigger stew . ite— really become much more a bigger story . the other— really become much more a bigger story . the other thing- really become much more a bigger story . the other thing to- story. the other thing to remember, philip schofield has already record that already said on the record that relations over. so it means relations is over. so it means it's you know, he's he may find it's you know, he's he may find it much harder to work with this young man saying, are you going to say this, not say this, please say this. do say please don't say this. do say that. please don't say this. do say that . if the relationship is that. if the relationship is oven that. if the relationship is over, it's much more dangerous. there's a storm brewing. nnsstntetw. — absolutely. well, listen, let's go absolutely. well, listen, let's ses-new— absolutely. well, listen, let's go-now between i absolutely. well, listen, let's go now between all absolutely. well, listen, let's. go-now between all of go rapid fire now between all of you,— go rapid fire now between all of wen. wsnt— go rapid fire now between all of you, your headline— go rapid fire now between all of you, your headline heroes and test— you, your headline heroes and test page— you, your headline heroes and back page zeros. _ you, your headline heroes and back page zeros. hillary, who newe— back page zeros. hillary, who newe wsn— back page zeros. hillary, who news you get— back page zeros. hillary, who have you got for— back page zeros. hillary, who have you got for my hero ? have you got for my hero? i've got— have you got for my hero? i've got jesse— have you got for my hero? i've got jesse armstrong, - have you got for my hero? i've got jesse armstrong, who is the creator and writer of succession , which ends tomorrow night. just brilliant tv classic ,

just brilliant tv classic, neentw— just brilliant tv classic, neentw es— just brilliant tv classic, nearly as good as mark dolan isnient— nearly as good as mark dolan isnignt ienn— nearly as good as mark dolan tonight john, briefly, if you okav-_ tonight john, briefly, if you can. okay. rob- tonight john, briefly, if you can. t 3: can. okay. rob edwards, the manager of luton. fantastic manchester going. wasn't it really fantastic. and so in the there in the premier league fantastic story amazing story. boom penalty shootout terrific congratulations luton linda and ichose congratulations luton linda and i chose laura nuttall, the 23 year old girl who died of a brain tumour about six days ago, who featured in the sunday times this morning a real story of bravery and courage. an absolute hero . only name your back page hero. only name your back page zeros. who have you got for us? roger waters? oh, yes, of course, auntie semitism scandal. john novak djokovic oh, yes. okay. but not being nice enough about the fact that rafa nadal is not taking part in the french open, a little bit rude, linda, who have you got for me too? phillip schofield there you go. can't why. thanks can't imagine why. thanks for your be headliners is your company. be headliners is next. friday .