this bank holiday monday evening. so the phillip schofield itv saga continues to rumble on. we've had contradictory statements released. we've had itv presents and colleagues scrambling to save their own reputations. advertisers pulling the plug on the show. there are even reports that phillip schofield photo has been removed from the itv studios. so what does this all mean for the future of this morning and for itv as a whole .7 morning and for itv as a whole.7 thenit morning and for itv as a whole.7 then it seems we've got concrete evidence that record immigration

is driving up rents across britain. who would have thought that be the case if only we had a government with a mandate to reduce immigration in. and i'm ever so slightly concerned that labour seemed to be taking their manifesto ideas from eco zealots . just stop oil. they're pledging . what? just stop. oil pledging. what? just stop. oil is asking a ban on all new north sea oil and gas. so is labour in the grips of the country ? these the grips of the country? these most extreme climate protests hours. and over on the blue side , has the conservative party lost its mind? at the same time, retailers have come out in unison to slam the idea of asking supermarkets to cap their own prices. what does this say about the government ? and about the government? and lastly, the met police will only attend mental health related 999 calls if there is an immediate threat to life. is this a total dereliction of duty? all of that to come tonight on dewbs& co. with me, emily carver. but first, let's get the latest news

headunes. first, let's get the latest news headlines. emily, first, let's get the latest news headlines . emily, thank you. i'm headlines. emily, thank you. i'm bethany,— headlines. emily, thank you. i'm bethany, elsie— headlines. emily, thank you. i'm bethany, elsie with— : emily, thank you. i'm bethany, elsie with your top stories— bethany, elsie with your top stories from _ bethany, elsie with your top stories from the— bethany, elsie with your top stories from the newsroom at 6 pm.— stories from the newsroom at 6 pm. fiv— stories from the newsroom at 6 pm. nv is— stories from the newsroom at 6 pm. nv is in— stories from the newsroom at 6 pm. itv is in crisis— stories from the newsroom at 6 pm. itv is in crisis talks p.m. itv is in crisis talks following— p.m. itv is in crisis talks following the— p.m. itv is in crisis talks following the scandal surrounding- following the scandal surrounding philips scofield's affair— surrounding philips scofield's affairwnh— surrounding philips scofield's affair with a _ surrounding philips scofield's affair with a younger male colleague.— affair with a younger male colleague. the— affair with a younger male colleague. the programs main poo rho— colleague. the programs main sponsor, the car— colleague. the programs main sponsor, the car dealer, arnold dork,— sponsor, the car dealer, arnold clark, announced— sponsor, the car dealer, arnold clark, announced it won't review its clark, announced it won't review no contract— clark, announced it won't review its contract this— clark, announced it won't review its contract this autumn in gb news— its contract this autumn in gb news understands it could cost the broadcaster— news understands it could cost the broadcaster tens of millions of pounds— the broadcaster tens of millions of pounds rp— the broadcaster tens of millions of pounds in lost— the broadcaster tens of millions of pounds in lost advertising revenue. phillip— of pounds in lost advertising revenue. phillip schofield has rep-osteo— revenue. phillip schofield has rejected claims— revenue. phillip schofield has rejected claims there was a sorro— rejected claims there was a toxic culture _ rejected claims there was a toxic culture on— rejected claims there was a toxic culture on this morning . toxic culture on this morning. in toxic culture on this morning. rrr o— toxic culture on this morning. in a statement— toxic culture on this morning. in a statement released shortly before— in a statement released shortly before rho— in a statement released shortly before the show— in a statement released shortly before the show went to air this morning,— before the show went to air this morrrrrrp ro— before the show went to air this morning, he said— before the show went to air this morning, he said it's the same handful— morning, he said it's the same horrorur or— morning, he said it's the same handful of people— morning, he said it's the same handful of people with a grudge oporrrsr— handful of people with a grudge against me— handful of people with a grudge oporpsr ms or— handful of people with a grudge against me or the— handful of people with a grudge against me or the show who seem to rove— against me or the show who seem to have rho— against me or the show who seem to have the loudest— against me or the show who seem to have the loudest voice . well, to have the loudest voice. well, gb to have the loudest voice. well, so news— to have the loudest voice. well, gb news presenter— to have the loudest voice. well, gb news presenter and former itv this morning— gb news presenter and former itv this morning host— gb news presenter and former itv this morning host eamonn holmes has pp— this morning host eamonn holmes has pp poor— this morning host eamonn holmes has pp poor .— this morning host eamonn holmes has hit back , saying schofield has hit back, saying schofield pos— has hit back, saying schofield has just— has hit back, saying schofield pos pusr pur— has hit back, saying schofield has just put out— has hit back, saying schofield has just put out a delusional stateroom— has just put out a delusional statement like— has just put out a delusional statement like holly. he posted

it statement like holly. he posted p or— statement like holly. he posted it on instagram_ statement like holly. he posted it on instagram stories. so if it on instagram stories. so if p goos— it on instagram stories. so if n goes wrong— it on instagram stories. so if it goes wrong, there's no resorp— it goes wrong, there's no record. after— it goes wrong, there's no record. after 24 hours. i'm rornoronr— record. after 24 hours. i'm reluctant to _ record. after 24 hours. i'm reluctant to give the liar any more publicity— reluctant to give the liar any more publicity .— reluctant to give the liar any more publicity . but believe me, more publicity. but believe me, if yours— more publicity. but believe me, if you're looking— more publicity. but believe me, if you're looking for a fight, yous— if you're looking for a fight, you pronou— if you're looking for a fight, you've picked the wrong person . you've picked the wrong person. in you've picked the wrong person. rn ornor— you've picked the wrong person. rn ornor nous— you've picked the wrong person. in other news, seven men have boon— in other news, seven men have been rononooo— in other news, seven men have been remanded in— in other news, seven men have been remanded in custody , been remanded in custody, snorpoo— been remanded in custody, charged with— been remanded in custody, charged with the attempted nuror— charged with the attempted nuror or— charged with the attempted murder of detective chief rnspooror— murder of detective chief inspector john— murder of detective chief inspector john caldwell in county— inspector john caldwell in county tyrone.— inspector john caldwell in county tyrone. caldwell was shot sooror— county tyrone. caldwell was shot sooror unos— county tyrone. caldwell was shot several times at— county tyrone. caldwell was shot several times at a— county tyrone. caldwell was shot several times at a sports centre in onopn— several times at a sports centre rn onopn poor— several times at a sports centre in omagh back in— several times at a sports centre in omagh back in february. several times at a sports centre in omagh back in february . all in omagh back in february. all seven men will— in omagh back in february. all seven men will appear before omagh— seven men will appear before omagh magistrates court next nonrn— omagh magistrates court next nonrn .— omagh magistrates court next nonrn . uro— omagh magistrates court next month . two of— omagh magistrates court next month . two of them were also month. two of them were also snorooo— month. two of them were also snorgoo nun— month. two of them were also charged with being members of the charged with being members of no .pa_ charged with being members of no .pa onu— charged with being members of the ira and three— charged with being members of the ira and three of them with the ira and three of them with the preparation— the ira and three of them with the preparation of— the ira and three of them with the preparation of terrorist poss— the preparation of terrorist acts .— the preparation of terrorist acts . british— the preparation of terrorist acts . british police will help acts. british police will help to acts. british police will help ro croon— acts. british police will help to crack down— acts. british police will help to crack down on— acts. british police will help to crack down on people snuppunp— to crack down on people smuggling gangs in an attempt to stop smuggling gangs in an attempt to srop nrgrunrs— smuggling gangs in an attempt to stop migrants leaving north aniso— stop migrants leaving north africa .— stop migrants leaving north africa . officers— stop migrants leaving north africa . officers from the africa. officers from the uorronor— africa. officers from the national crime agency will work oronpsroo— national crime agency will work alongside authorities in tunisia and alongside authorities in tunisia ono argonn— alongside authorities in tunisia ono arporro .— alongside authorities in tunisia and algeria . the— alongside authorities in tunisia and algeria . the italian and algeria. the italian government— and algeria. the italian government predicts up to 400,000— government predicts up to 400,000 people will try to reach europe— 400,000 people will try to reach europe on— 400,000 people will try to reach

europe no no— 400,000 people will try to reach europe via the mediterranean sea this europe via the mediterranean sea rnrs — europe via the mediterranean sea this summer. that's four times as many— this summer. that's four times as many as last— this summer. that's four times as many as last year. the former oonsonouvo— as many as last year. the former conservative adviser— as many as last year. the former conservative adviser , claire conservative adviser, claire pearson,— conservative adviser, claire roorsou, says— conservative adviser, claire pearsall, says it's a good move. uo-s— pearsall, says it's a good move. uo-s sonprorory— pearsall, says it's a good move. he's completely correct that we soon— he's completely correct that we soon looking— he's completely correct that we start looking at— he's completely correct that we start looking at where people are start looking at where people sonrnp— start looking at where people are coming from,— start looking at where people are coming from, where the nonwor— are coming from, where the conflict zones— are coming from, where the conflict zones are, and working nun— conflict zones are, and working nun rnoso— conflict zones are, and working with those countries to ensure snor— with those countries to ensure not they— with those countries to ensure that they don't— with those countries to ensure that they don't come through to mainland— that they don't come through to mainland europe— that they don't come through to mainland europe and make their way across. and— mainland europe and make their way across. and then- mainland europe and make their way across. and then into the channel. it takes an international community to stop these things which is now what we're starting to see. concerns have been raised over the metropolitan police's plans to stop attending emergency mental health calls from september . health calls from september. the commissioner, sir mark ronny,— the commissioner, sir mark nonroy, says— the commissioner, sir mark rowley, says the move would give officers— rowley, says the move would give officers or— rowley, says the move would give officers more time— rowley, says the move would give officers more time to focus on rooming— officers more time to focus on tackling crime. _ officers more time to focus on tackling crime. but that they wru— tackling crime. but that they our sun— tackling crime. but that they will still respond if there was an immediate— will still respond if there was an immediate threat to life . the an immediate threat to life. the fornr— an immediate threat to life. the former inspector— an immediate threat to life. the former inspector of— an immediate threat to life. the former inspector of constabulary , zoo— former inspector of constabulary , zoe billingham,_ former inspector of constabulary , zoe billingham, warned the ononpo— , zoe billingham, warned the snonpo sourd— , zoe billingham, warned the change could be— , zoe billingham, warned the change could be dangerous, leading— change could be dangerous, renornp ro— change could be dangerous, rooornp to o— change could be dangerous, leading to a vacuum in care . the leading to a vacuum in care. the funer— leading to a vacuum in care. the fornor or— leading to a vacuum in care. the fornor or on— leading to a vacuum in care. the father of an aspiring royal manne— father of an aspiring royal marine who— father of an aspiring royal marine who was killed by an osyrun— marine who was killed by an asylum seeker— marine who was killed by an asylum seeker has spoken

oxsrusrvory— asylum seeker has spoken exclusively to _ asylum seeker has spoken exclusively to gb news, whose 21 year— exclusively to gb news, whose 21 you our— exclusively to gb news, whose 21 yoor our ronny— exclusively to gb news, whose 21 year old tommy roberts was many— year old tommy roberts was fatally stabbed— year old tommy roberts was fatally stabbed by allowing jean about— fatally stabbed by allowing jean about nonin— fatally stabbed by allowing jean abdul rahim xii— fatally stabbed by allowing jean abdul rahim xii while trying to stop— abdul rahim xii while trying to stop o— abdul rahim xii while trying to srop o nonr— abdul rahim xii while trying to stop a fight over— abdul rahim xii while trying to stop a fight over an electric sooorr— stop a fight over an electric sooorr rn— stop a fight over an electric scooter in bournemouth. the afghan— scooter in bournemouth. the afghan double— scooter in bournemouth. the afghan double murderer who onroroo— afghan double murderer who onroroo rno— afghan double murderer who entered the uk— afghan double murderer who entered the uk posing as a child was sentenced— entered the uk posing as a child was sentenced to— entered the uk posing as a child was sentenced to life in prison . ronny-s— was sentenced to life in prison . tommy's father,— was sentenced to life in prison . tommy's father, peter, told pon— . tommy's father, peter, told don yuoouon— . tommy's father, peter, told dan wootton it— . tommy's father, peter, told dan wootton it should never have boon— dan wootton it should never have poon ouonoo— dan wootton it should never have been allowed to— dan wootton it should never have been allowed to happen in the foot— been allowed to happen in the no no— been allowed to happen in the fact he shouldn't— been allowed to happen in the fact he shouldn't have even been in no— fact he shouldn't have even been in no country— fact he shouldn't have even been in the country anyway. jrzzr in the country anyway. do you foot— in the country anyway. do you foot roo— in the country anyway. do you feel let down— in the country anyway. do you feel let down by the system? very, very let down. no one snookoo— very, very let down. no one checked him _ very, very let down. no one checked him out- very, very let down. no one checked him out and even though the checked him out and even though no rosror— checked him out and even though the foster parent— checked him out and even though the foster parent insisted and giving— the foster parent insisted and pryrnp nrn — the foster parent insisted and giving him lots— the foster parent insisted and giving him lots of times he'd boon— giving him lots of times he'd poon caught— giving him lots of times he'd been caught with a knife and snoo— been caught with a knife and sno-o rokon— been caught with a knife and she'd taken it— been caught with a knife and she'd taken it away from him. nur— she'd taken it away from him. but nornrno— she'd taken it away from him. but nothing was— she'd taken it away from him. but nothing was done with the sooor— but nothing was done with the social workers, _ but nothing was done with the social workers, with the immigration,- social workers, with the immigration, with the police. no one immigration, with the police. no ooruouy— immigration, with the police. no one actually asked— immigration, with the police. no one actually asked the question , nor-s— one actually asked the question , uor-s snook— one actually asked the question , let's check this— one actually asked the question , let's check this guy out . he , let's check this guy out. he roouy— , let's check this guy out. he seems really bad— , let's check this guy out. he seems really bad . there's a lot seems really bad. there's a lot of seems really bad. there's a lot or poo— seems really bad. there's a lot or pop ropons— seems really bad. there's a lot of bad reports about him . let's of bad reports about him. let's just— of bad reports about him. let's just noko— of bad reports about him. let's pusr noko p..— of bad reports about him. let's just make the phone call and onook— just make the phone call and onook nrn — just make the phone call and check him out— just make the phone call and check him out . _ just make the phone call and check him out . /r:::r. cr?" just make the phone call and

check him out . v/rzzr. er?" t check him out. you can watch that full interview on dan wootton tonight at 9:00. russia has launched rare daytime air strikes on ukraine's capital. the 16th air attack on kyiv this month. school children were forced to take cover in. one person has been taken to hospital, but no major damage has been reported. ukraine's military says 11 missiles were intercepted , but emergency intercepted, but emergency services had to clear the debris from roads. today's barrage follows two nights of heavy drone strikes with ukraine indicating it will launch a counter—offensive imminently. and the canadian city of halifax has declared a state of emergency as wildfires continue to wreak havoc in the region. dash cam footage shows a car speeding through flames and smoke , narrowly avoiding a smoke, narrowly avoiding a collision with another vehicle. the fires have caused evacuations and power outages and several schools have been shut down. earlier this month, the western province of alberta also declared a state of emergency after wildfires forced

tens of thousands of people from their homes as you're up to date on tv , online, dab+ radio and on on tv, online, dab+ radio and on tune in. this is gb news. now it's back to . it's back to. emily thank you, bethany . welcome to thank you, bethany. welcome to dewbs & co. with— thank you, bethany. welcome to dewbs & co. with me,— welcome to dewbs & co. with me, emily dewbs& co. with me, emily canon— dewbs& co. with me, emily conor. rn— dewbs& co. with me, emily carver. i'm standing in for uronouo— carver. i'm standing in for michelle this— carver. i'm standing in for michelle this evening. so joining— michelle this evening. so joining no— michelle this evening. so joining me until seven is my wonoorfur— joining me until seven is my wonderful panel, joe phillips , wonderful panel, joe phillips, porruoor— wonderful panel, joe phillips, political commentator, also political commentator, and also gor— political commentator, and also we've got connor— political commentator, and also we've got connor tomlinson, who is o— we've got connor tomlinson, who is o nnror— we've got connor tomlinson, who is o wruor ano— we've got connor tomlinson, who is a writer and podcast host. i don-r— is a writer and podcast host. i oon-r rnrnk— is a writer and podcast host. i don't think we've— is a writer and podcast host. i don't think we've been on together— don't think we've been on rogornor rn— don't think we've been on together in this show, ponrouror— together in this show, particular show, show . i often particular show, show. i often sono— particular show, show. i often soono rn— particular show, show. i often stand in for— particular show, show. i often stand in for michelle when she's wnon— stand in for michelle when she's nnon sno-s— stand in for michelle when she's when she's away.— stand in for michelle when she's when she's away. so this will be a when she's away. so this will be o—noron— when she's away. so this will be o-noron for— when she's away. so this will be a-match for me.- when she's away. so this will be a match for me. you've a nice new match for me. you've boon— a nice new match for me. you've poonlrogornor— a nice new match for me. you've been-together two- a nice new match for me. you've been together two weeks ago. been on together two weeks ago. we been on together two weeks ago. no nou— been on together two weeks ago. we ran purpo— been on together two weeks ago. we ran nurse on— been on together two weeks ago. we had quite a fiery— been on together two weeks ago. “er: r: r: oh, we had quite a fiery duel. oh, well, let's have some “el: r: r: oh, well, let's have some more “er: r: r: oh, well, let's have some more of snot.— well, let's have some more of snot-or— well, let's have some more of that.-at home,- well, let's have some more of that.-at home, do- well, let's have some more of that. at home, do you that. and at home, do you remember you— that. and at home, do you remember you can get in touch nun— remember you can get in touch nun-arous— remember you can get in touch with about everything talk remember you can get in touch with this out everything talk remember you can get in touch with this evening/thing talk remember you can get in touch with this evening .hing talk remember you can get in touch with this evening . gb; talk remember you can get in touch with this evening . gb viewsalk remember you can get in touch with this evening . gb views at about this evening. gb views at

gb about this evening. gb views at on nons— about this evening. gb views at on uons — about this evening. gb views at gb news .com or— about this evening. gb views at gb news .com or on twitter at gb uons. — gb news .com or on twitter at gb uons. lbefore— gb news .com or on twitter at gb news. .before we— gb news .com or on twitter at gb news. before we crack on to news. so before we crack on to no— news. so before we crack on to rno-pouuoor— news. so before we crack on to the political debates of the the big political debates of the day,— the big political debates of the day, p...— the big political debates of the day, no big— the big political debates of the day, the big cultural stories snor— day, the big cultural stories snot wo-ro— day, the big cultural stories that we're going to be discussing— that we're going to be discussing ,- that we're going to be discussing , we're going to stop discussing, we're going to stop for o— discussing, we're going to stop for o soono— discussing, we're going to stop for a second and— discussing, we're going to stop for a second and get the sponso or— for a second and get the response of my panel to what's noon— response of my panel to what's poon gong— response of my panel to what's poon gorng on— response of my panel to what's been going on at— response of my panel to what's been going on at itv . phillip been going on at itv. phillip sononoro— been going on at itv. phillip schofield itv's_ been going on at itv. phillip schofield itv's this morning who know— schofield itv's this morning who know wnou— schofield itv's this morning who knew what, when— schofield itv's this morning who knew what, when but what does ons— knew what, when but what does no on— knew what, when but what does no for— knew what, when but what does this mean for the— knew what, when but what does this mean for the programme this morning?— this mean for the programme this nornrngo unor— this mean for the programme this morning? what does all of this soonoor— morning? what does all of this scandal what— morning? what does all of this scandal what does this saga mean for ons— scandal what does this saga mean for this morning— scandal what does this saga mean for this morning and what does it for this morning and what does is on— for this morning and what does is for— for this morning and what does it mean for itv?— for this morning and what does it mean for itv? they're losing roos— it mean for itv? they're losing pots or— it mean for itv? they're losing pots or nony— it mean for itv? they're losing lots of money, it— it mean for itv? they're losing lots of money, it seems. �*jfrr�*rzgl lots of money, it seems. well, on o personn— lots of money, it seems. well, on a personal scale . i cannot on a personal scale. i cannot believe how much coverage this has had . this has been leading has had. this has been leading bulletins across networks. it's acres and acres of newsprint for something that i think is of little interest to quite a lot of people . however, the wider of people. however, the wider context is about the potential abuse of power within the media and a young person in and i

think, you know, there are lots and lots of grey areas here. i think it's being blown up into something of a national scandal which i don't think it is, although i think some people might like it to be. but i think , you know, there are questions about the toxicity in an organisation, whether it's itv , organisation, whether it's itv, whether it's the cbi, whether it's the house of commons, whether it's any other organisation and particularly with relation to young people , with relation to young people, and something that might be perceived as an abuse of somebody's power and influence on an impressionable young person. so i think there are questions, but i don't think this necessarily affects itv as a whole. do you think itv will essentially get over this or recover from it? i mean, they know they do good programmes and they and also, i think the other thing, emily, is we all know how the media is not like real life. i mean, i started off in

newsrooms where people used to throw typewriters at you and you just duck. goodness just learned to duck. goodness me. i'm just learned to duck. goodness no-r-n groo— just learned to duck. goodness me.-i'm glad-for- me. well, i'm glad it's for ononooo— me. well, i'm glad it's for ononpoo rno— me. well, i'm glad it's for changed the benefit of, well, nor—ovory- changed the benefit of, well,j nor—ovory ooy changed the benefit of, well,- nor—ovory day on not having injuries every day on a not having injuries every day on o-posrs — not having injuries every day on a-basis. connie,- not having injuries every day on a basis. connie, your a daily basis. connie, your quick— a daily basis. connie, your quick reaction— a daily basis. connie, your quick reaction to this story. unor— quick reaction to this story. wnor oo— quick reaction to this story. wnor do you— quick reaction to this story. what do you think the future of this what do you think the future of no morning— what do you think the future of this morning is?— what do you think the future of this morning is? this catastrophic? will they never r— catastrophic? will they never recover? i mean— catastrophic? will they never recover? i mean ,_ catastrophic? will they never recover? i mean , advertisers are recover? i mean, advertisers are purring— recover? i mean, advertisers are purunp rnon— recover? i mean, advertisers are pulling their brands from the snow.— pulling their brands from the snow. vou— pulling their brands from the show. you've got— pulling their brands from the show. you've got contributors rofusrno— show. you've got contributors rofusrno ro— show. you've got contributors rorusrnp so go— show. you've got contributors refusing to go on. you've got so muon— refusing to go on. you've got so nuon oroy— refusing to go on. you've got so much secrecy around the whole rnno— much secrecy around the whole rnrnp, rnrnos— much secrecy around the whole rnrnp, rnrngs no— much secrecy around the whole thing, things we don't know, otootoro— thing, things we don't know, etcetera, etcetera. everyone has an etcetera, etcetera. everyone has on opinion.— etcetera, etcetera. everyone has an opinion. what's— etcetera, etcetera. everyone has an opinion. what's yours ? an opinion. what's yours? i turnk— an opinion. what's yours? i think sno— an opinion. what's yours? i think the show— an opinion. what's yours? i think the show is- an opinion. what's yours? i think the show is synonymous with holly and phil, therefore it's become bit of it's become a bit of a contaminated brand. could contaminated brand. you could see before. see with the two hosts before. alison phillips , alison hammond, alison phillips, alison hammond, sorry, the guy who presents sorry, and the guy who presents x factor. that's it. they look like in a hostage like they're in a hostage situation to skirt around situation trying to skirt around it. so it's toxic. as a label, they're probably going have they're probably going to have to out with to move the slate out with something and a whole new something else and a whole new look reason i think it's look and the reason i think it's such ubiquitous coverage is because not national because it's not a national scandal , because it's not a national scandal, phil, because it's not a national scandal , phil, because scandal, phil, yet, because i think people are holding their breath penny breath for if another penny drops and had quite a few

drops and we've had quite a few media very popular media scandals from very popular media scandals from very popular media and a conspiracy of media heads and a conspiracy of silence in places like the bbc in years, and people are in recent years, and people are wondering this is going to be wondering if this is going to be something similar. yes, people are, of course, asking- g yes, people are, of course, asking whether rnoro— are, of course, asking whether rnoro oro— are, of course, asking whether there are double— are, of course, asking whether there are double standards. eds nnon— there are double standards. eds nnon-ro— there are double standards. eds nnon-ro rno- there are double standards. eds when-to the itv's- there are double standards. eds when to the itv's chief when it comes to the itv's chief exec,.course, people- when it comes to the itv's chief exec, course, people like exec, of course, people like prors— exec, of course, people like piers morgan,— exec, of course, people like piers morgan, jeremy clarkson nooos— piers morgan, jeremy clarkson nooos novo— piers morgan, jeremy clarkson heads have rolled less. heads have rolled for less. i would— heads have rolled for less. i would orouo— heads have rolled for less. i wouro orguo .— heads have rolled for less. i would argue , for- heads have rolled for less. i would argue , for political would argue, for political reasons. _see| would argue, for political- reasons._see how reasons. so we shall see how rnoo— reasons. so we shall see how woo-lor— reasons. so we shall see how snot-loo us- reasons. so we shall see how that-let us know- reasons. so we shall see how that let us know what that unfolds. let us know what you— that unfolds. let us know what you rnrnn — that unfolds. let us know what you think. there's— that unfolds. let us know what you think. there's been so much ooworogo—youl coverage of this. perhaps you nowo— coverage of this. perhaps you nowowows-— coverage of this. perhaps you have _views either- coverage of this. perhaps you have views either way on have strong views either way on the have strong views either way on no futuro— have strong views either way on no futuro or— have strong views either way on the future of itv's— have strong views either way on the future of itv's this morning --90in9_ the future of itv's this morning --90in9 ro— the future of itv's this morning --90in9 ro nowo- the future of itv's this morning .-going to move on. the future of itv's this morning . going to move on to . but we're going to move on to a . but we're going to move on to o big— . but we're going to move on to o big porrrroor— . but we're going to move on to a big political story— . but we're going to move on to a big political story who would nowo— a big political story who would nowo rnouonr— a big political story who would have thought it— a big political story who would have thought it record immigration- have thought it record immigration has put pressure on nousrno. — immigration has put pressure on nousrnp. rnor-s— immigration has put pressure on housing. that's what new research says— housing. that's what new research says it has increased oonono— research says it has increased oonono for— research says it has increased demand for over— research says it has increased demand for over 200,000 new ronror— demand for over 200,000 new rental properties— demand for over 200,000 new rental properties driven up ronrs— rental properties driven up ronrs py— rental properties driven up ronrs by so— rental properties driven up rents by 8% in— rental properties driven up rents by 8% in the past year nono— rents by 8% in the past year orono .— rents by 8% in the past year orono . or— rents by 8% in the past year alone . of course,- rents by 8% in the past year alone . of course, last week we alone. of course, last week we nono— alone. of course, last week we nooro from — alone. of course, last week we heard from the— alone. of course, last week we heard from the home office data snowoo— heard from the home office data showed inward _ heard from the home office data showed inward migration torfaen oooooo— showed inward migration torfaen oooooo nor— showed inward migration torfaen 606,000 net over— showed inward migration torfaen 606,000 net over the last year . 606,000 net over the last year. rnoo— 606,000 net over the last year. not ws— 606,000 net over the last year. not up— 606,000 net over the last year. that was up from _ 606,000 net over the last year. that was up from 500,000 the yoor— that was up from 500,000 the you pororo — that was up from 500,000 the yoor pororo .— that was up from 500,000 the year before . so— that was up from 500,000 the year before . so surely this is a year before. so surely this is a srorononr— year before. so surely this is a statement of— year before. so surely this is a statement of the _

year before. so surely this is a statement of the obvious . the statement of the obvious. the poopro— statement of the obvious. the more people coming from overseas, the— more people coming from overseas, the more pressure on overseas, the more pressure on nousrnp— overseas, the more pressure on housing, particularly at the rowor— housing, particularly at the rowor ono— housing, particularly at the lower end and— housing, particularly at the lower end and the higher the priso— lower end and the higher the pnoo or— lower end and the higher the pnoo or onu— lower end and the higher the price of rent. joe— lower end and the higher the price of rent. joe that's just common sense,— price of rent. joe that's just common sense, isn't it? �*jfrr�*rzgl common sense, isn't it? well, onero— common sense, isn't it? well, there rs— common sense, isn't it? well, there is o— common sense, isn't it? well, there is a shortage of rental properties across the country and the rents particularly in london and the south—east, are astronomical . so it is obviously astronomical. so it is obviously if you have more people looking for rented property, there's going to be greater pressure on that part of the market. but the number of people moving to the uk on permanent working visas , uk on permanent working visas, 100,000in the year to march this yean 100,000in the year to march this year, that's a 97. so that's four times the pre pandemic and pre brexit norm and 171% surge in skilled workers in health and care. so that's an extra 64 nearly 65,000. so those visas account for more more than half of all worker visas granted up until march. so, you know , we until march. so, you know, we want people we need people to come and fill those gaps,

particularly in health and social care and other industries where there are visas are permitted and they're allowed if you're coming on a short term working visa, you probably are not going to be looking to buy a property. are most likely property. you are most likely going to be in a city rather than a rural area or a less urban area where the pressures are huge. i mean, there's also a whole load of other issues about housing. second, homes that aren't now available for long term rent, who , you know, that term rent, who, you know, that are now a proportion, though i've seen i've seen analysis of that. i've seen i've seen analysis of that . and it really i've seen i've seen analysis of that. and it really is a drop in no— that. and it really is a drop in no oooon— that. and it really is a drop in the ocean. it's— that. and it really is a drop in the ocean. it's the— and it really is a drop in the ocean. it's the numbers, posroouy— the ocean. it's the numbers, basically,-supply- the ocean. it's the numbers, basically, supply and basically, it's supply and oonono,— basically, it's supply and demand, isn't— basically, it's supply and demand, isn't it really, connor? is demand, isn't it really, connor? rs-ro— demand, isn't it really, connor? rs-ro soy— demand, isn't it really, connor? rs-ro soy n— demand, isn't it really, connor? rs-ro soy if you- demand, isn't it really, connor? is to say if you take is it fair to say if you take ons— is it fair to say if you take no or— is it fair to say if you take this at face— is it fair to say if you take this at face value, this onorysrs— this at face value, this. onorysrs—no this at face value, this- analysis,_no reason analysis, which i have no reason not analysis, which i have no reason nor-rs— analysis, which i have no reason nor-rs u— analysis, which i have no reason nor-rs u for— analysis, which i have no reason not-is it fair to— analysis, which i have no reason not-is it fair to say- analysis, which i have no reason not is it fair to say that not to, is it fair to say that actually— not to, is it fair to say that actually mass— not to, is it fair to say that actually mass immigration is raising— actually mass immigration is raising rno— actually mass immigration is raising the cost— actually mass immigration is raising the cost of living for no— raising the cost of living for no rost— raising the cost of living for no rosr or— raising the cost of living for the rest of us? _ raising the cost of living for the rest of us? jczjl raising the cost of living for the rest of us? jczj�*jc. the rest of us? quite obviously. i'm so glad we finally discovered exactly as the great tom harwood of gb news once said, what happened in 1997 that caused house prices to skyrocket, and that was tony

blair's mass immigration reform, which has been continued under the to record the conservatives to record numbers in every single numbers despite in every single election, in every single manifesto , then promising to manifesto, then promising to control reduce immigration control and reduce immigration as the number one issue on the ballot. bring in ballot. frankly, if you bring in a city the size of liverpool in every year and now double that because it's going to look to top possibly a million this yean top possibly a million this year, course, there's going year, of course, there's going to stress infrastructure, to be stress on infrastructure, housing the and funnily housing and the nhs. and funnily enough, the reason we enough, i think the reason we keep in health keep needing to bring in health and care workers is, one, and social care workers is, one, the disproportion at point the disproportion at us at point of without ever paying into of use without ever paying into the immigrants the system that new immigrants use. nhs for, versus long use. the nhs for, versus long term paying residents of the uk. and two the reason we don't have a surplus of home trained doctors and nurses is because in places like australia or america , the incentives and pay are far better. and the reason the incentives of pay are far better is because they're more in demand, whereas we just have taken the strategy of let's import from overseas who import people from overseas who are to lower are more willing to accept lower wages. a self—fulfilling wages. so it's a self—fulfilling prophecy. idon't wages. so it's a self—fulfilling prophecy. i don't have the statistics— prophecy. i don't have the statistics on. _ prophecy. i don't have the statistics on. i— t i don't have the statistics on. i mean, i don't

rnoorno— statistics on. i mean, i don't rnogrno you— statistics on. i mean, i don't imagine you've brought with statistics on. i mean, i don't imagbut you've brought with statistics on. i mean, i don't imagbut the �*ve brought with statistics on. i mean, i don't imagbut the statisticslt with statistics on. i mean, i don't imagbut the statistics on with you, but the statistics on wnornor— you, but the statistics on- whether—immigrants whether people new immigrants are whether people new immigrants using— whether people new immigrants using no— whether people new immigrants are using the nhs more than rnoso— are using the nhs more than rnoso wno— are using the nhs more than those who-been- are using the nhs more than those who been living here those who have been living here forlonounr— those who have been living here for.amount.years._ for x amount of years. population— for x amount of years. . population-course, for x amount of years. - population-course, the population but of course, the longer— population but of course, the ronpor you— population but of course, the longer you're here, the more youo— longer you're here, the more you poro— longer you're here, the more you pop rn— longer you're here, the more you've paid in. so on day one of, you've paid in. so on day one onlonronng— you've paid in. so on day one ofrlentering o— you've paid in. so on day one of, entering a country, of, of entering a country, opwousry— of, of entering a country, obviously you- of, of entering a country, obviously you haven't paid in for—purpo- obviously you haven't paid in for public services for any of the public services yet,— for any of the public services you-oo— for any of the public services yon-do you— for any of the public services yet,-do you think- for any of the public services yet, do you think we have yet, but do you think we have got— yet, but do you think we have goo pooouso— yet, but do you think we have got because - seem - yet, but do you think we have got because seem to agree yet, but do you think we have got lthis, se seem to agree yet, but do you think we have got lthis, this seem to agree yet, but do you think we have got lthis, this is seem to agree yet, but do you think we have got lthis, this is something» agree with this, this is something rnoo— with this, this is something snot-rou- with this, this is something that-left and- with this, this is something that left and right of that both the left and right of the that both the left and right of no powwow— that both the left and right of the political spectrum are rowing— the political spectrum are talking getting those talking about getting those nupors— talking about getting those numbers down, down, unless onoy-ro— numbers down, down, unless onoy-ro-ryrno— numbers down, down, unless they're-lying to- numbers down, down, unless they're lying to us and they're just lying to us and onoy— they're just lying to us and onoy-no— they're just lying to us and they no intention, which of they have no intention, which of ourso—or oo- they have no intention, which of course _or do you i course is possible. or do you rnno— course is possible. or do you rnrnk rnoo— course is possible. or do you think that we— course is possible. or do you think that we have an unsustainable economic model wnoropy— unsustainable economic model wnoropywo— unsustainable economic model wnoropywo-on— unsustainable economic model whereby we on constant whereby we rely on constant bringing— whereby we rely on constant pnngrno-ono- whereby we rely on constant bringing and more bringing in more and more nroronrs— bringing in more and more nrpronrs ro— bringing in more and more migrants to fill— bringing in more and more migrants to fill those shortages gaps?— migrants to fill those shortages gaps? meanwhile, we have a rooro— gaps? meanwhile, we have a record number— gaps? meanwhile, we have a record number of— gaps? meanwhile, we have a record number of people not working— record number of people not wornnp wou— record number of people not working well . _ record number of people not working well . �*jfrr�*rz; record number of people not working well . �*jfoj�*rt; rt;r: working well. we have failed abysmally to prepare for brexit, which, you know, any fool would have told you would have seen a mass exodus of all the people who used to be here, people from eastern europe, people from poland, you know, who were doing

a lot of jobs, who were coming over for a little while, working really then back. really hard and then going back. they know, they were doing they you know, they were doing stuff and we sort of took it for granted. an appalling granted. we've got an appalling record on apprenticeship schemes, despite umpteen government initiatives. i mean, there were figures out over the weekend that the dropout rate on on the government's apprentice scheme is something like 90. and if that was the same of pupils dropping out of a—levels, there would be an absolute outcry. so we're not training people to do the jobs that we need to do. there's no long term industrial strategy. and yes, for too long we've relied on other people to come and do jobs. and they're not just the jobs that other people don't want to do. these are jobs, you know, are skilled jobs, you know, working health social working in health and social care. wages are poor. care. but the wages are poor. the stress is ridiculous. working on farms. i worry that this working on farms. i worry that no sorrow— working on farms. i worry that this started, though,- working on farms. i worry that this started, though, for- this started, though, for ideological— this started, though, for ideological reasons. i think conor— ideological reasons. i think conor rs— ideological reasons. i think conor is right.— ideological reasons. i think conor is right. i— ideological reasons. i think conor is right. i think high rowors— conor is right. i think high levels immigration to this country— levels immigration to this country started because ideologically-

country started because ideologically tony blair's government— ideologically tony blair's government liked the idea of being— government liked the idea of being wory— government liked the idea of being very liberal when it came to our— being very liberal when it came to our borders,— being very liberal when it came to our borders, being very open, wnon— to our borders, being very open, wnon u— to our borders, being very open, wnon u sono— to our borders, being very open, when it came to— to our borders, being very open, when it came to our borders and so wou— when it came to our borders and so we've well been— when it came to our borders and so we've well been lazy in terms of so we've well been lazy in terms or improving— so we've well been lazy in terms or rnprownp our— so we've well been lazy in terms of improving our productivity. yuo-wo— of improving our productivity. yuo-yo boon— of improving our productivity. we've been lazy— of improving our productivity. we've been lazy in terms of warning— we've been lazy in terms of rrornrnp up— we've been lazy in terms of training up people in this country— training up people in this country already and just become so, so, so reliant.— country already and just become so, so, so reliant. i— country already and just become so, so, so reliant. i don't know now— so, so, so reliant. i don't know now o— so, so, so reliant. i don't know how a government— so, so, so reliant. i don't know how a government would now cut rnnrgrouon— how a government would now cut rnnrgrouon ro— how a government would now cut immigration to the— how a government would now cut immigration to the tens of rnousonos— immigration to the tens of thousands, as— immigration to the tens of thousands, as david cameron pronisop— thousands, as david cameron pronrsoo, ono— thousands, as david cameron promised, and how they'd even soon— promised, and how they'd even soon so— promised, and how they'd even soon to do— promised, and how they'd even start to do that— promised, and how they'd even start to do that because we're so rouonr— start to do that because we're so reliant now— start to do that because we're so reliant now when the original ouoros— so reliant now when the original ouoros-nrorr— so reliant now when the original quotes blair adviser was quotes from a blair adviser was we quotes from a blair adviser was -oopon— quotes from a blair adviser was -oopon rno- quotes from a blair adviser was we open the borders to we wanted to open the borders to rub we wanted to open the borders to runoso—o— we wanted to open the borders to runoso—o rn— rub the right's nose in oworsuy— rub the right's nose in diversity. - rub the right's nose in diversity . ' r: rub the right's nose in diversity . r: rub the right's nose in- diversity . and then they have diversity. and then they have since said that that's backfire . what's happened if if . and what's happened if is if we an immigration we have created an immigration system was ideologically system that was ideologically motivated to do that to the conservative party originally the conservative party have now made that feature of the made that bug a feature of the british economy. so we've got a just in time economy and a just in time policy plan so that they only plan for the next couple of years on year gdp years or the year on year gdp growth balance sheet. and that's

why we don't have a long term industrial strategy. that's why we're not investing in new farming equipment. we're paying we're not investing in new farming efruitnent. we're paying we're not investing in new farming e fruit pickers e're paying we're not investing in new farming e fruit pickers instead,ng low wage fruit pickers instead, because you import more because if you just import more people, then gdp looks kind people, then the gdp looks kind of it looks on a on people, then the gdp looks kind ofbalance looks on a on people, then the gdp looks kind ofbalance sheet. i on a on people, then the gdp looks kind ofbalance sheet. i thinkn a on people, then the gdp looks kind ofbalance sheet. i think aa on people, then the gdp looks kind ofbalance sheet. i think a lot] a balance sheet. i think a lot of a balance sheet. i think a lot or poopro— a balance sheet. i think a lot or poopro nowo— a balance sheet. i think a lot of people have are— t i think a lot of people have are seeing rnrouon— of people have are seeing through that— of people have are seeing through that now. and thinking, worn— through that now. and thinking, wou, ooruouy— through that now. and thinking, well, actually-an— through that now. and thinking, well, actually an individual well, actually on an individual basis— well, actually on an individual basis,-better- well, actually on an individual basis,-better off.- well, actually on an individual basis, better off. but basis, we're not better off. but toning— basis, we're not better off. but toning-unkno- basis, we're not better off. but taking linking this taking it to just linking this to taking it to just linking this ro-ro— taking it to just linking this to-to another- taking it to just linking this to to another topic that to another to another topic that rn— to another to another topic that rn-nows.— to another to another topic that was in-news. but- to another to another topic that was in news. but it's really was in the news. but it's really ooroo— was in the news. but it's really poor rs— was in the news. but it's really door is ons— was in the news. but it's really dated is this new— was in the news. but it's really dated is this new report from a rnno— dated is this new report from a wink-onward— dated is this new report from a think-onward who- dated is this new report from a think onward who say that think tank onward who say that this think tank onward who say that rnrs-nrsr— think tank onward who say that this first generation of this is the first generation of young—wru- this is the first generation of| young—will never this is the first generation of- young_will never vote young people who will never vote oonsorworwo— young people who will never vote conservative _ never. conservative or who will never runnor— conservative or who will never move further to _ conservative or who will never move further to the right. lots of young— move further to the right. lots of young pewte— move further to the right. lots of young people are concerned about— of young people are concerned about housing,— of young people are concerned about housing, of— of young people are concerned about housing, of course, and rnoo— about housing, of course, and snot rs— about housing, of course, and snot rs ono— about housing, of course, and that is one of— about housing, of course, and that is one of the— about housing, of course, and that is one of the reasons why onoy— that is one of the reasons why onoy won-r— that is one of the reasons why they won't vote.— that is one of the reasons why they won't vote. tory but also onoy— they won't vote. tory but also onoy-wow— they won't vote. tory but also they-very liberal- they won't vote. tory but also they very liberal when it they are very liberal when it ro— they are very liberal when it comes to immigration . so why is comes to immigration. so why is rnoso— comes to immigration. so why is rnoso uo— comes to immigration. so why is rnoso no onoy— comes to immigration. so why is that? do they not— comes to immigration. so why is that? do they not link the two? why— that? do they not link the two? wny oo— that? do they not link the two? wny oo onoy— that? do they not link the two? wny oo rnoy nor— that? do they not link the two? why do they not link the two? wrou— why do they not link the two? wou, r— why do they not link the two? wou, r rnno— why do they not link the two? well, i think they— why do they not link the two? well, i think they don't link to the well, i think they don't link to no two— well, i think they don't link to no two for— well, i think they don't link to the two for the— well, i think they don't link to the two for the exact same reasons, because media reasons, because the media nosn-r— reasons, because the media hasn't—talking. reasons, because the media- hasn't_talking about hasn't really been talking about it hasn't really been talking about ulrno— hasn't really been talking about ulrno rost— hasn't really been talking about it .the last little _ hasn't really been talking about it.the last little-i. it for the last little while. i mean, even within- it for the last little while. i mean, even within the- mean, even within the conservative party, it wasn't until conservative until the national conservative conference two years ago that we were about immigration's

were talking about immigration's impact on housing falling impact on housing and falling birth i think that's birth rates. and i think that's and is something we and this is something we discussed on discussed last time we were on joe. one main joe. that's one of the main reasons why millennials gen reasons why millennials and gen z, gen z are a little bit more than millennials aren't moving rightward. because the rightward. it's because the majority want to have rightward. it's because the mfamily want to have rightward. it's because the mfamily start want to have rightward. it's because the mfamily start voting ant to have rightward. it's because the mfamily start voting for to have rightward. it's because the mfamily start voting for lower/e a family start voting for lower taxes, keeping of what you taxes, keeping more of what you earn you're less reliant earn because you're less reliant on for provisions. and on the state for provisions. and it's like men, it's something like 27% of men, 18 unmarried virgins 18 to 30 are unmarried virgins and women in the uk and 50.1% of women in the uk have reached 30 without any children. and so you've an children. and so you've got an entire with like entire generation with no like house in house bound investment in continuing civilisation . in continuing the civilisation. in no they keep voting for no wonder they keep voting for parties. to parties. they're just going to promise money. yeah, promise them more money. yeah, i do there's a lot of do think there's a lot, a lot of truth to that. joe. just do you worry— truth to that. joe. just do you worry pooouso— truth to that. joe. just do you worry because we— joe. just do you worry because we always talk about— worry because we always talk about not— worry because we always talk about net migration figures and we about net migration figures and wo-row— about net migration figures and we _talk about— about net migration figures and we talk about those who we don't talk about those who are we don't talk about those who o.ro— uo— we don't talk about those who o.ro— no you- we don't talk about those who o.ro— no you worryi are emigrating. do you worry rnn— are emigrating. do you worry rnor-rosrne— are emigrating. do you worry that losing young, highly that we're losing young, highly snuoo— that we're losing young, highly snuou poopro— that we're losing young, highly skilled people to— that we're losing young, highly skilled people to potentially more advanced _ skilled people to potentially more advanced economies or or ounrsro— more advanced economies or or ounrsro rnn— more advanced economies or or countries that are— more advanced economies or or countries that are better for entrepreneurial— countries that are better for entrepreneurial people? are more woroonrne— entrepreneurial people? are more woroonrne ro— entrepreneurial people? are more welcoming to that— entrepreneurial people? are more welcoming to that sort of

porsono— welcoming to that sort of porsono r— welcoming to that sort of person? i worry that we're losing— person? i worry that we're rosrnp high— person? i worry that we're losing high skilled people and sporting— losing high skilled people and going o— losing high skilled people and going o rot— losing high skilled people and getting a lot of— losing high skilled people and getting a lot of low skilled in own — getting a lot of low skilled in return. anecdotally,- getting a lot of low skilled in return. ' «wilt? return. anecdotally, yes. we know that people are going to australia, they're going to the states, they're going to new zealand. mean, what what we zealand. i mean, what what we always seem to forget in the conversations about immigration is , you know, english and an is, you know, english and an engush is, you know, english and an english speaking country is a very attractive place for people who don't speak any other language apart from english. but i do think this no english at all. sorry, no english at all. rnoroosrnpry,— all. sorry, no english at all. increasingly, i— sorry, no english at all. increasingly, i mean, we haven't oxoouy— increasingly, i mean, we haven't oxoouy nooo— increasingly, i mean, we haven't exactly made it— increasingly, i mean, we haven't exactly made it a— increasingly, i mean, we haven't exactly made it a language ropurrononr— exactly made it a language requirement to— exactly made it a language requirement to speak the ronpuogo— requirement to speak the ronpuogo or— requirement to speak the language of the country. you're coming— language of the country. you're oornrno pock— language of the country. you're coming back to— language of the country. you're coming back to this not in a lot of coming back to this not in a lot or-rn— coming back to this not in a lot or-rn rnrs— coming back to this not in a lot of-in this country. - coming back to this not in a lot of in this country. of places in this country. i was up rn— of places in this country. i was up in boston— of places in this country. i was up in boston for— of places in this country. i was up in boston for our migration special in lincolnshire and it was very clear a lot was it was very clear that a lot of migrants did not speak of the migrants did not speak a word of english, but it's a draw for people nevertheless. and i think, you know, the- and i think, you know, the problem is ono— think, you know, the problem is and .— think, you know, the problem is and r rnrnk— think, you know, the problem is and i think this— think, you know, the problem is and i think this onward report is only— and i think this onward report is really interesting and obviously— obviously you and connor are muon— obviously you and connor are nuon pouor— obviously you and connor are much better place to say whether it's much better place to say whether us two — much better place to say whether us two or— much better place to say whether it's true or not,— much better place to say whether it's true or not, because am much better place to say whether

it's tthatyr not, because am much better place to say whether it's tthatyr no groupause am much better place to say whether it's tthatyr no group .ise am much better place to say whether it's tthatyr no group . but am much better place to say whether it's tthatyr no group . but iim much better place to say whether it's tthatyr no group . but i think past that age group. but i think it past that age group. but i think u rs— past that age group. but i think u is wow— past that age group. but i think it is very significant that poopro— it is very significant that poopro rnoy— it is very significant that people they feel they haven't got people they feel they haven't go o— people they feel they haven't gor o sroko — people they feel they haven't got a stake because they can't afford— got a stake because they can't afford to— got a stake because they can't afford to rent,— got a stake because they can't afford to rent, they can't afford — afford to rent, they can't afford to — afford to rent, they can't afford to buy— afford to rent, they can't afford to buy a- afford to rent, they can't afford to buy a house. they're rouonr— afford to buy a house. they're rouonr on— afford to buy a house. they're reliant on the— afford to buy a house. they're reliant on the bank of mum and dad— reliant on the bank of mum and dog mun — reliant on the bank of mum and dog mun ono— reliant on the bank of mum and dad, mum and dad— reliant on the bank of mum and dad, mum and dad are probably rnrnnng— dad, mum and dad are probably thinking, blimey,_ dad, mum and dad are probably thinking, blimey, we've got to pay— thinking, blimey, we've got to pay-and— thinking, blimey, we've got to pay—and gronoool pay for granny and grandad and sooor—or- pay for granny and grandad and social—of those- social care and all of those son— social care and all of those sonlrnrngs — social care and all of those sort .things. yes,- social care and all of those sort things. jv/rt;~;fr " sort of things. yes, people in their 50s and 60s are having to pay their 50s and 60s are having to pay both ways, helping their children of pay both ways, helping their childrr sort of of pay both ways, helping their childrrsort of things. and of pay both ways, helping their childrr sort of things. and the those sort of things. and the future i think— those sort of things. and the future i think is— g; and the future i think is perhaps gs and the future i think is perhaps a bit grin.— future i think is perhaps a bit gnn. nur— future i think is perhaps a bit gnn. our r— future i think is perhaps a bit gnn. our r oo— future i think is perhaps a bit grim. but i do think it's very rnrorosung— grim. but i do think it's very interesting that— grim. but i do think it's very interesting that younger people are interesting that younger people muon— interesting that younger people are much more— interesting that younger people are much more liberal, much less sonoornoo . ano— are much more liberal, much less concerned . and actually the concerned. and actually the conservative _ concerned. and actually the conservative with a small c roors— conservative with a small c voters are less— conservative with a small c voters are less concerned about the voters are less concerned about no rnrngs— voters are less concerned about the things that— voters are less concerned about the things that the right wing of the things that the right wing or no— the things that the right wing of the conservative party. i turnk— of the conservative party. i think there's— of the conservative party. i think there's quite- of the conservative party. i think there's quite a- of the conservative party. i think there's quite a lot of self censorship, though. just anecdotally. but we're coming up. we to stop there for up. we have to stop there for that one. but coming up, reports say labour want to block oil say labour want to block all oil and drilling in the north and gas drilling in the north sea. isn't exactly the sea. isn't that exactly what the just demanding

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know, they're thing. know, they're the same thing. there's rizla paper between there's a rizla paper between the parties anyway, moving there's a rizla paper between thein parties anyway, moving there's a rizla paper between thein labouries anyway, moving there's a rizla paper between thein labour newsyway, moving there's a rizla paper between thein labour news labourioving there's a rizla paper between thein labour news labour related on in labour news labour related news it turns out they're nicking their manifesto pledges from zealots. just stop oil from eco zealots. just stop oil and labour has confirmed plans to block all new development of oil gas drilling in the oil and gas drilling in the nonh oil and gas drilling in the north sea if they're elected. that's exactly what just stop oil are asking for. so if labour form next government , the form the next government, the party has said it will also limit borrowing to green investment aren't only so . sir investment aren't only so. sir keir starmer is expected to make the announcement when he visits. visit scotland next month as part of his latest national mission. now i can't get my head around this one, joe is has labour decided on this policy because they want to appeal to the eco lobby and those concerned by environmental issues and climate change or has it got something to do with the snp? well that's very cynical emily, but i think you're probably right on the last bit. yes, interesting that he's going

to noko— yes, interesting that he's going to make these— yes, interesting that he's going to make these remarks in scoring— to make these remarks in scotland next— to make these remarks in scotland next month where the sur— scotland next month where the sup noos— scotland next month where the sup nowo, you— scotland next month where the snp have, you know, always said rnoy— snp have, you know, always said rnoy wont— snp have, you know, always said rnoy wont to— snp have, you know, always said they want to see _ snp have, you know, always said they want to see a _ snp have, you know, always said they want to see a stop but rouon— they want to see a stop but fallen slightly— they want to see a stop but fallen slightly short of being as strong— fallen slightly short of being as strong os— fallen slightly short of being as strong as starmer is orrogoury— as strong as starmer is allegedly going to be. yeah the sur— allegedly going to be. yeah the sup rs— allegedly going to be. yeah the snp is imploding— allegedly going to be. yeah the snp is imploding since nicola sturgoon— snp is imploding since nicola sturgeon stood— snp is imploding since nicola sturgeon stood down and those woros— sturgeon stood down and those votes are are up— sturgeon stood down and those votes are are up for grabs for labour. — votes are are up for grabs for labour. .— votes are are up for grabs for labour. i would— votes are are up for grabs for labour. i would have thought so i labour. i would have thought so r rnrnk— labour. i would have thought so r rnrnk rnor— labour. i would have thought so i think that is— labour. i would have thought so i think that is part— labour. i would have thought so i think that is part of the mining— i think that is part of the thinking behind it. i mean, i rnrnk— thinking behind it. i mean, i rnrnk us— thinking behind it. i mean, i think it's very— thinking behind it. i mean, i think it's very bold. i think us— think it's very bold. i think its going— think it's very bold. i think us going ro— think it's very bold. i think it's going to be— think it's very bold. i think it's going to be an extremely nonr— it's going to be an extremely noro sou— it's going to be an extremely hard sell not— it's going to be an extremely hard sell not just to the gonoror— hard sell not just to the general public but within the labour— general public but within the labour pony.— general public but within the labour party. already the gmb unron— labour party. already the gmb nowo— labour party. already the gmb union have come— labour party. already the gmb union have come out and said we're not so sure— union have come out and said we're not so sure about this , we're not so sure about this, our— we're not so sure about this, our r— we're not so sure about this, our r rnrnn— we're not so sure about this, but i think, you— we're not so sure about this, but i think, you know , you are but i think, you know, you are ounor— but i think, you know, you are orrnor going— but i think, you know, you are either going to— but i think, you know, you are either going to commit to green onorgy— either going to commit to green onorgy ono— either going to commit to green onorgy and on— either going to commit to green energy and an end— either going to commit to green energy and an end to fossil fuel oxprorrouon— energy and an end to fossil fuel exploitation or— energy and an end to fossil fuel exploitation or you're going to oonunuo— exploitation or you're going to continue kicking— exploitation or you're going to continue kicking it into the long— continue kicking it into the song gross— continue kicking it into the long grass again and again. and again— long grass again and again. and again unri— long grass again and again. and again until we've— long grass again and again. and again until we've run out of natural— again until we've run out of natural resources- again until we've run out of natural resources and we're not going— natural resources and we're not going onyrnrng.— natural resources and we're not doing anything. but, you know , doing anything. but, you know, rnoro— doing anything. but, you know, rnoro oro— doing anything. but, you know, rnoro two— doing anything. but, you know, there are two big— doing anything. but, you know, there are two big issues here. ono— there are two big issues here. ono rs— there are two big issues here. ono rs poopro— there are two big issues here. one is people will go, oh , well,

one is people will go, oh, well, rnon— one is people will go, oh, well, rnon woro— one is people will go, oh, well, then we're going— one is people will go, oh, well, then we're going to be reliant on runn— then we're going to be reliant on run or— then we're going to be reliant on putin or whoever it is for gas— on putin or whoever it is for gas ono— on putin or whoever it is for gas and oi— on putin or whoever it is for gas and oil until— on putin or whoever it is for gas and oil until we can get our wrno— gas and oil until we can get our own wind turbines,— gas and oil until we can get our own wind turbines, which is a pony— own wind turbines, which is a pony good— own wind turbines, which is a pretty good point. i must say. and— pretty good point. i must say. and no— pretty good point. i must say. and the other— pretty good point. and the other question is, you know— and the other question is, you know .— and the other question is, you know , oo— and the other question is, you know , do you— and the other question is, you know , do you do— and the other question is, you know , do you do you want to say, know, do you do you want to say, nowng— know, do you do you want to say, nowng boon— know, do you do you want to say, having been rachel— know, do you do you want to say, having been rachel reeves is making— having been rachel reeves is making o— having been rachel reeves is making o wory— having been rachel reeves is making a very good fist of being snooow— making a very good fist of being shadow chancellor— making a very good fist of being shadow chancellor and is, you know— shadow chancellor and is, you know, grwng— shadow chancellor and is, you know, giving gordon brown a run for nrs— know, giving gordon brown a run for nrs nonoy— know, giving gordon brown a run for nrs nonoy on— know, giving gordon brown a run for his money on prudence. but, you— for his money on prudence. but, you know— for his money on prudence. but, you know oro— for his money on prudence. but, you know, you— for his money on prudence. but, you know, are you actually going to soy,— you know, are you actually going ro soy, yos— you know, are you actually going ro soy, yos, woro— you know, are you actually going to say, yes, we're going to borrow— to say, yes, we're going to borrow for— to say, yes, we're going to borrow for investment? fine. if it's borrow for investment? fine. if its groon— borrow for investment? fine. if it's green investment, but it's got— it's green investment, but it's got-po— it's green investment, but it's got be hypothecated. it's got got to be hypothecated. it's got to bo— got to be hypothecated. it's got to to ring— got to be hypothecated. it's got to be ring fenced,— got to be hypothecated. it's got to be ring fenced, because ornorwrso— to be ring fenced, because otherwise they're breaking their own-knots— otherwise they're breaking their own-knots o- otherwise they're breaking their own that's a that's a own rules. yes that's a that's a wow— own rules. yes that's a that's a wory good— own rules. yes that's a that's a wory good point. — own rules. yes that's a that's a wory good porn. .— own rules. yes that's a that's a very good point. t“ t“ very good point. i mean, connor, to this is madness. as joe to me, this is madness. as joe pointed out there, one of the key arguments against this is that, well, okay, we don't drill for oil and gas in this country anymore . so what do we do? we're anymore. so what do we do? we're going to be reliant on oil and gas in one way or another for the next couple of decades at least. so are we going to get

that oil and gas from. yeah that's a really interesting point. i imy that's a really interesting point. i i my background point. i mean, i my background woslonorgy— point. i mean, i my background woslonorgy-ono- point. i mean, i my background was-energy-and so- was in energy policy and so i wroro— was in energy policy and so i wrorolpopor— was in energy policy and so i wrorolpopor rn— was in energy policy and so i wrote paper in 2021 for wrote a paper in 2021 for costing— wrote a paper in 2021 for casting what— wrote a paper in 2021 for casting what happen in wrote a paper in 2021for- casting what-happen in if, casting what would happen in if, runnrky— casting what would happen in if, runnrky-rnoro— casting what would happen in if, funnily-there was- funnily enough, there was propkons— funnily enough, there was. problems—which funnily enough, there was- problems_which there problems with russia which there usuokky— problems with russia which there usuokky nowo— problems with russia which there usually have been— problems with russia which there usually have been throughout nrsrory,— usually have been throughout nrsrory-wo-ro— usually have been throughout history, we're kind up history, then we're kind of up a crook— history, then we're kind of up a creek without— history, then we're kind of up a creek without a _ history, then we're kind of up a creek without a paddle there pooouso— creek without a paddle there because one of— creek without a paddle there because one of our leading suppkrors— because one of our leading suppliers, well,— because one of our leading suppliers, well, norway okwkousky— suppliers, well, norway obviously, who can actually tap the obviously, who can actually tap to nonn— obviously, who can actually tap to uonn soo.— obviously, who can actually tap the north sea. so— obviously, who can actually tap the north sea. so we just let rnon — the north sea. so we just let rnon oo— the north sea. so we just let them do that.— the north sea. so we just let them do that. whereas if we roppoo— them do that. whereas if we roppoo opour— them do that. whereas if we tapped about 10% of it, we'd nowo— tapped about 10% of it, we'd nowo onougn— tapped about 10% of it, we'd have enough energy for the country— have enough energy for the country for— have enough energy for the country for 50— have enough energy for the country for 50 years. that country for 50 years. so that wouko—rookkyl would seem like a really sonsrpko— would seem like a really sensible-but- would seem like a really- sensible-but.decided sensible plan. but we decided not ro— sensible plan. but we decided nor to do— sensible plan. but we decided not to do that. _ sensible plan. but we decided not to do that. we also had rnpons— not to do that. we also had imports-qatar- not to do that. we also had- imports-qatar-had imports from qatar and we had all imports from qatar and we had okk-prokuons- imports from qatar and we had all problems, human all of those problems, human ngnrs— all of those problems, human rights-recently- all of those problems, human rights recently with the rights wise recently with the wrong — rights wise recently with the wrong cup — rights wise recently with the world cup and— rights wise recently with the world cup and we were importing fron— world cup and we were importing from russia.— world cup and we were importing from russia. and— world cup and we were importing from russia. and then see from russia. and then we can see won— from russia. and then we can see wrrn-kussrons— from russia. and then we can see with-russianslgreat- with the russians a great oxonpko— with the russians a great example happens if you with the russians a great- example-happens if you are with the russians a great- eienergy-happens if you are with the russians a great eienergy independents if you are with the russians a great eienergy independent country are a energy independent country knot— a energy independent country pig rnon— a energy independent country that then sabotages your own onorgy— energy independence us with anorko— energy independence us with- anorko—rrunp, america. so under donald trump, he america. so under donald trump, no—noko— america. so under donald trump, he_make america- america. so under donald trump, he make america an he decided to make america an onorgy— he decided to make america an energy independent nation rnrougn— energy independent nation through fracking first through fracking for the first uno— through fracking for the first time-president- through fracking for the first time president in through fracking for the first- time-president-in the time that president nixon in the oes— time that president nixon in the 60s-rno— time that president nixon in the 60s-the mandate- time that president nixon in the 60s the mandate and he 60s had set the mandate and he oonrowoo— 60s had set the mandate and he oonrowoo u.— 60s had set the mandate and he achieved it. he— 60s had set the mandate and he achieved it. he made america a net achieved it. he made america a nor—rno- achieved it. he made america a net—the saudis. net exporter. when the saudis ono— net exporter. when the saudis and-russians— net exporter. when the saudis and russians tried holding net exporter. when the saudis and ransom ans tried holding

net exporter. when the saudis and ransom with ried holding net exporter. when the saudis and ransom with opecolding net exporter. when the saudis and ransom with opec overg net exporter. when the saudis and ransom with opec over the them ransom with opec over the priso— them ransom with opec over the prko or— them ransom with opec over the prko or gr,— them ransom with opec over the price of oil, trump— them ransom with opec over the price of oil, trump was actually nogorrorrng— price of oil, trump was actually negotiating table— price of oil, trump was actually negotiating table and badgered rnon— negotiating table and badgered rnon gown.— negotiating table and badgered them down. and— negotiating table and badgered them down. and so it meant knonoo— them down. and so it meant knorko noo— them down. and so it meant america had more standing in the gkopok— america had more standing in the grow-.— america had more standing in the gkopok-. kno— america had more standing in the global-. and-during global stage. and then as during that global stage. and then as during pig uno— global stage. and then as during pig uno os— global stage. and then as during that time as well,— global stage. and then as during that time as well, he oversaw knonoo— that time as well, he oversaw america being— that time as well, he oversaw america being the leading nation in no— america being the leading nation in no worko— america being the leading nation in the world, reducing emissions from— in the world, reducing emissions from zon— in the world, reducing emissions from zow ro— in the world, reducing emissions from 2017 to 2019. _ in the world, reducing emissions from 2017 to 2019. so it flew against— from 2017 to 2019. so it flew ogornsr ou— from 2017 to 2019. so it flew against all of— from 2017 to 2019. so it flew against all of the— from 2017 to 2019. so it flew against all of the climate koppros— against all of the climate lobbies, conventional wisdom. suoon-s— lobbies, conventional wisdom. sudan's biden_ lobbies, conventional wisdom. sudan's biden gets in on day loonooks— sudan's biden gets in on day one. cancels keystone xl one. he cancels the keystone xl rotor— one. he cancels the keystone xl rotor on— one. he cancels the keystone xl rotor on by— one. he cancels the keystone xl later on by fiat. _ one. he cancels the keystone xl later on by fiat. he— one. he cancels the keystone xl later on by fiat. he makes it so knot— later on by fiat. he makes it so pig rnoro— later on by fiat. he makes it so that there are _ later on by fiat. he makes it so that there are no— later on by fiat. he makes it so that there are no federal gas koosos— that there are no federal gas leases on sorry,— that there are no federal gas leases on sorry, no gas leases on rooorok— leases on sorry, no gas leases on federal land. _ leases on sorry, no gas leases on federal land. he extends it rnoofrnrroky. — on federal land. he extends it indefinitely. and— on federal land. he extends it indefinitely. and so because knonoo— indefinitely. and so because knorko nos— indefinitely. and so because america has reduced its gas production— america has reduced its gas production, they— america has reduced its gas production, they start increasing— production, they start increasing imports from russia, oknosr— increasing imports from russia, almost clockwork. �*jfkr�*rt;tt almost like clockwork. well, ons— almost like clockwork. well, this rs— almost like clockwork. well, ours is sno— almost like clockwork. well, this is the thing. i do worry about our politicians virtue signalling on the domestic stage using this to talk big at things like cop26 on the international stage. and meanwhile , all we're stage. and meanwhile, all we're having to import things from dodgy, nefarious regimes. well joe, it's all again, joe, it's all it's all again, this goes back to long term strategy. connor mentioned norway.— strategy. connor mentioned uorwoy. r— strategy. connor mentioned norway. i mean,— g connor mentioned norway. i mean, norway had a kong— norway. i mean, norway had a

kong m,— norway. i mean, norway had a kong rorn, kong— norway. i mean, norway had a long term, long term strategy for long term, long term strategy ror ks— long term, long term strategy for its wealth— long term, long term strategy for its wealth from oil. it's, vou— for its wealth from oil. it's, you know — for its wealth from oil. it's, you know, pur— for its wealth from oil. it's, you know, put all of that invest it, you know, put all of that invest in ring— you know, put all of that invest it, ring fenced,— you know, put all of that invest it, ring fenced, it— you know, put all of that invest it, ring fenced, it used it to rooto— it, ring fenced, it used it to rooto o— it, ring fenced, it used it to rooto o wory— it, ring fenced, it used it to create a very successful , create a very successful, prosporous— create a very successful, prosperous country with tontostts— prosperous country with fantastic, you - prosperous country with fantastic, you know, social tootktttos— fantastic, you know, social facilities, social- fantastic, you know, social facilities, social services , facilities, social services, oouootton— facilities, social services, education and- facilities, social services, education and all the rest of it . yuo-wo— education and all the rest of it . yuo-yo noo— education and all the rest of it . yuo-yo not to— education and all the rest of it . we've had 13 years of this .we've had 13 years of this goornont— .we've had 13 years of this government, but- .we've had 13 years of this government, but we've been totktng— government, but we've been talking about— government, but we've been talking about energy problems for talking about energy problems tor oo— talking about energy problems tor 40 or— talking about energy problems tor 40 or so— talking about energy problems for 40 or 50 years. we've had i mean, i've been— for 40 or 50 years. we've had i mean, i've been to— for 40 or 50 years. we've had i mean, i've been to umpteen conferences with,— mean, i've been to umpteen conferences with, you know, big oil conferences with, you know, big or proousors— conferences with, you know, big oil producers where they were totktng— oil producers where they were talking about— oil producers where they were talking about peak oil, and tnot-s— talking about peak oil, and tnot-s wnot— talking about peak oil, and that's what we're pretty much rooontng— that's what we're pretty much roosntng tnot— that's what we're pretty much reaching that point. and the nood— reaching that point. and the nooo to— reaching that point. and the need to invest— reaching that point. and the need to invest in, i don't know. i need to invest in, i don't know. ttntnk— need to invest in, i don't know. i think there's— need to invest in, i don't know. i think there's quite— need to invest in, i don't know. i think there's quite a- need to invest in, i don't know. i think there's quite a lot- need to invest in, i don't know. i think there's quite a lot left to be drilled well because i know people who work off in scotland in the industry , off on scotland in the industry, off on the and they're not going the rigs and they're not going to stop drilling if this happens and if the windfall taxes , you and if the windfall taxes, you know, stop them investing in. they're going they're they're just going to they're just go elsewhere. no, just going to go elsewhere. no, but they'll just their but they'll just take their drills elsewhere. drills and go elsewhere. i actually we're not going to stop

climate change in this it's climate change in this way. it's just virtual. are we going just virtual. how are we going to for our politicians, how are we climate change? we going to stop climate change? well, in well, everything is moving in that direction. the market is providing solutions. don't providing solutions. i don't think know which think governments know which ones win out. so ones are going to win out. so electric vehicles sounds great, but maybe we won't be driving electric vehicles. but in 20 years time they might be driving something different. something completely different. but that comes back to infrastructure. infrastructure ono— infrastructure. infrastructure ono tong— infrastructure. infrastructure and long term— infrastructure. infrastructure and long term planning. you know , are we building— and long term planning. you know , are we building houses? have we , are we building houses? have wo-tuttotng— , are we building houses? have we building houses the we been building houses for the rost— we been building houses for the tost to,— we been building houses for the tost 20. so— we been building houses for the last 20, 30 years— we been building houses for the last 20, 30 years that are much more ecologically— last 20, 30 years that are much more ecologically friendly, much more environmentally sound? no, we more environmentally sound? no, wo noon-t.— more environmentally sound? no, wo nowon-t. wo-ro— more environmentally sound? no, we haven't. we're still ooponoont— we haven't. we're still dependent on long term planning . roe,— dependent on long term planning . joer trot-s— dependent on long term planning . joer tnot-s o— dependent on long term planning . joe, that's a that's— dependent on long term planning . joe, that's a that's a- dependent on long term planning . joe, that's a that's a pipe dream. well, i know, but it's the only way you get anything done. lesley, let's. sounds like a realist. he says we will depend on further imports for decades to come whilst other countries of the world invest heavily gas, we will heavily in oil and gas, we will pay heavily in oil and gas, we will pay for their foolish pay dearly for their foolish proposal. lose proposal. that's it. we'll lose out the tax money that out on all the tax money that comes from it. we'll lose out on all the jobs that come from it. scotland's economy will hit

scotland's economy will be hit very, hard indeed. many very, very hard indeed. many people their jobs people will lose their jobs and we'll importing oil we'll end up importing oil and gas from halfway around gas anyway from halfway around the world where it's probably more we should the world where it's probably mothat we should the world where it's probably mothat at we should the world where it's probably mothat at the we should the world where it's probably mothat at the same we should the world where it's probably mothat at the same time, hould the world where it's probably mothat at the same time, i'm.d do that at the same time, i'm not against. but you see all not against. but do you see all the time. but all time the time. but all the time youo— the time. but all the time you got— the time. but all the time you got tno— t but all the time you've got the option. you're going— you've got the option. you're gotng to— you've got the option. you're never going to make the tough tootstons— never going to make the tough decisions,-right.- never going to make the tough decisions, right. are decisions, say right. we are rootty—our- decisions, say right. we are. really—our efforts really going to put our efforts into— really going to put our efforts into-onshore— really going to put our efforts into onshore offshore. into the onshore offshore. if i onrno— into the onshore offshore. if i ontno tn— into the onshore offshore. if i can chime in on— into the onshore offshore. if i can chime in on the scottish wory— can chime in on the scottish wory gutskty— can chime in on the scottish very quickly, because actually very quickly, because i actually wont—torn.- very quickly, because i actually wont—torn. | very quickly, because i actually wont—torn. ti went to whitley wind farm. i oskou— went to whitley wind farm. i oskou tnonn — went to whitley wind farm. i asked them about— went to whitley wind farm. i asked them about this- went to whitley wind farm. i asked them about this and they said them from spain. said we import them from spain. we bring them over shipping we bring them over by shipping container. don't make back container. they don't make back the needed. and the energy they needed. and so we nuclear or gas we actually need nuclear or gas to so the wind to support it. so even the wind farm manufacturers want farm manufacturers don't want 100% renewable. well, are we go i with other wind i can trump that with other wind farms visited. but. so farms that i've visited. but. so you know, we can let's- , rt;r: but. so you know, we can let's see what poopto— you know, we can let's see what poopto ot— you know, we can let's see what poopto ot nono— you know, we can let's see what people at home about wind people at home think about wind ts — people at home think about wind ts kro— people at home think about wind farms. are they— people at home think about wind farms. ' ”it; t farms. are they fantastic ingenious technology ingenious piece of technology or are they? they don't work or do tnoy— are they? they don't work or do tnoy not— are they? they don't work or do tnoy not work— e�*jt; e"jii1«r7’ they don't work or do they not work o'connor says? they not work as o'connor says? knywoy. — they not work as o'connor says? anywavr -upr_ they not work as o'connor says? anyway,-up, unsurprising.| anyway, coming up, unsurprising. perhaps. anyway, coming up, unsurprising. periin)s. anyway, coming up, unsurprising. periin unison to slam the out in unison to slam the government's latest inflation busting the busting proposal to cap the pnces busting proposal to cap the prices essentials. what are prices of essentials. what are the thinking

britain's news. channel interconne— britain's news. channel iwelcome back- britain's news. channel l welcome back to - britain's news. channel welcome back to dewbs& co with me, emily me me, emily carver. so keeping me company evening is joe company this evening is joe phillips, political commentator and conor tomlinson, who is a writer and podcast host. and i must say, to according my twitter, if that's something to go getting quite go by, you're getting quite a lot love this lots lot of love this evening. lots of are appreciating your of people are appreciating your common sense views of, well, there's a first time for everything, there? everything, isn't there? no, i know, must be mad. know, i know. they must be mad. they be mad . that's all they must be mad. that's all right. no, don't worry. it's tno— right. no, don't worry. it's tins-to- right. no, don't worry. it's fine.-to being- right. no, don't worry. it's| fine.-to being the fine. i'm used to being the pontontno— fine. i'm used to being the pantomime-on- fine. i'm used to being the pantomime on this fine. i'm used to being the- pantomime-on this show. pantomime villain on this show. you or— pantomime villain on this show. you not— pantomime villain on this show. you are not never. _ pantomime villain on this show. you are not never. let's- pantomime villain on this show. you are not never. let's go- pantomime villain on this show. you are not never. let's go to my inbox because we've got lots coming labour's and coming in on labour's oil and gas policy potential. cath says just stop labour. i think that's a play on just stop oil. very good. that'll be the tories new slogan, won't it? just stop totourt — slogan, won't it? just stop labour? yes, richard said, just stop oil. need to get over this tantrum. we're going to need oil for decades come. fact for many decades to come. fact well, it's not just just stop

oil. it's the labour party oil. it's also the labour party who do this. says, who want to do this. ken says, why keep north sea oil why don't we keep north sea oil and ourselves and not and gas to ourselves and not sell the open market? sell it on the open market? i don't know we're allowed to don't know if we're allowed to don't know if we're allowed to do . i don't think we're do that. i don't think we're allowed to. we have to sell it on the market says, can you on the market and says, can you please what you do when please explain what you do when the wind doesn't blow? what an idiot. farms the idiot. wind farms cost the british people. expensive, british people. very expensive, unreliable electricity. it is also don't also heavily subsidised. i don't know an know who you're calling an idiot. hopefully keir starmer and me or one of my lovely and not me or one of my lovely panellists. so anyway, moving swiftly on government's swiftly on the government's plans to ask supermarkets to voluntarily cap the price of bafic voluntarily cap the price of basic food items like bread and milk have been unsurprisingly met with widespread derision pretty much across the board . pretty much across the board. the british retail consortium has said the measures would not make a jot of difference and that the government should focus on low as on keeping prices as low as possible rather than recreating 19705 possible rather than recreating 1970s style price controls rules. so we know we've got a ridiculously high level of inflation, joe, when it comes to food , is this too little , too

food, is this too little, too late? is it an absolutely absurd policy proposal? why are the conservatives doing this? it seems like they're trying to pinch policies from the left because they've run out of ideas. well, they've certainly out— ideas. well, they've certainly out ot— ideas. well, they've certainly run out of ideas— : well, they've certainly run out of ideas and they're oortotnky— run out of ideas and they're certainly clutching at any straw tnot— certainly clutching at any straw to t— certainly clutching at any straw now that it happens to be the unont— now that it happens to be the current concern— now that it happens to be the current concern of— now that it happens to be the current concern of people wttnout— current concern of people without stopping to think again as without stopping to think again os two— without stopping to think again os two soro— without stopping to think again as i've said before, about any tong— as i've said before, about any tong torn— as i've said before, about any long term sensible strategic long term, sensible strategic ptonntng— long term, sensible strategic ptonntng .— long term, sensible strategic ptonntng . vou— long term, sensible strategic planning . you know, what have planning. you know, what have tnoy— planning. you know, what have tnoy gono— planning. you know, what have tnoy oono to— planning. you know, what have they done to prepare post brexit for they done to prepare post brexit tor wnot-s— they done to prepare post brexit for what's happened in the torntng— for what's happened in the farming industry, the lack of poopko— farming industry, the lack of poopto to— farming industry, the lack of poopto to pick— farming industry, the lack of people to pick and sort through you know— people to pick and sort through you know, we've— people to pick and sort through you know, we've got a huge snortogo— you know, we've got a huge snortogo ot— you know, we've got a huge shortage of butchers. we've got a shortage of butchers. we've got o protton— shortage of butchers. we've got a problem with— shortage of butchers. we've got a problem with a— shortage of butchers. we've got a problem with a shortage of tots— a problem with a shortage of vets, we've got— a problem with a shortage of vets, we've got a— a problem with a shortage of vets, we've got a problem with poopto— vets, we've got a problem with poopto not— vets, we've got a problem with people not picking crops and pookogtng— people not picking crops and pookogtng ono— people not picking crops and packaging and all of those sort of packaging and all of those sort ot tntngs— packaging and all of those sort of things which— packaging and all of those sort of things which used to be very, wory— of things which used to be very, very conveniently— of things which used to be very, very conveniently filled by nonw— very conveniently filled by nony, nony— very conveniently filled by many, many eastern european works— many, many eastern european workers who'd— many, many eastern european workers who'd come over on tonporory— workers who'd come over on tonporory — workers who'd come over on temporary visas. they'd work for tnroo— temporary visas. they'd work for tnroo nontns— temporary visas. they'd work for three months through the summer, and three months through the summer, on tnon— three months through the summer, on tnon tnoy-o— three months through the summer, and then they'd home again. and then they'd go home again. all and then they'd go home again. art-gono— and then they'd go home again. art-gono. tno- all of that's gone. the government - all of that's gone. the government made no all of that's gone. the- government-made no effort. government has made no effort.

wnot— government has made no effort. wnot so— government has made no effort. wnot so ooon— government has made no effort. what so ever, to— government has made no effort. what so ever, to look at what's noppontng— what so ever, to look at what's noppontng now— what so ever, to look at what's happening now. there have been obvious— happening now. there have been obvious things— happening now. there have been obvious things like ukraine war, wnon— obvious things like ukraine war, wnon-noo— obvious things like ukraine war, wnon-not o— obvious things like ukraine war, which-had a huge- obvious things like ukraine war, which had a huge impact on which has had a huge impact on wnoot— which has had a huge impact on wnoot suppttos— which has had a huge impact on wheat supplies and therefore the cost— wheat supplies and therefore the cost ot— wheat supplies and therefore the cost ot p,— wheat supplies and therefore the cost ot n, ono— wheat supplies and therefore the cost of it, and also— wheat supplies and therefore the cost of it, and also on the cost ono— cost of it, and also on the cost on tnpoot— cost of it, and also on the cost on tnpoot on— cost of it, and also on the cost and impact on fertiliser. very tnportont— and impact on fertiliser. very tnportont tor— and impact on fertiliser. very important for farms. but and the supornorkots— important for farms. but and the supermarkets are— important for farms. but and the supermarkets are making massive profits.— supermarkets are making massive prottts. wo— supermarkets are making massive profits to know— supermarkets are making massive profits. we know now, but tnoy-ro— profits. we know now, but tnoy-ro not— profits. we know now, but they're not going to go for priso— they're not going to go for pnoo oops— they're not going to go for pnoo oops .— they're not going to go for price caps . france has done this price caps. france has done this as price caps. france has done this os o wotuntory— price caps. france has done this as a voluntary thing for three nontns— as a voluntary thing for three nontns onty— as a voluntary thing for three months only as— as a voluntary thing for three months only as a— as a voluntary thing for three months only as a trial . and i months only as a trial. and i tntnk— months only as a trial. and i think france— months only as a trial. and i think france always does mad tntngs— think france always does mad tntngs ono— think france always does mad things and then— think france always does mad things and then they backtrack on tnon— things and then they backtrack on them immediately. jv/rtr on them immediately. you know, thoro— on them immediately. you know, there or— on them immediately. you know, there are various wealth taxes and things like that. i do think, you know, we really have to have a bigger conversation . to have a bigger conversation. us price of food is us the price of food is absolutely— us the price of food is absolutely astronomical. and it's absolutely astronomical. and tt-s-rookky— absolutely astronomical. and it's really frightening it's really, really frightening for it's really, really frightening tor-nony— it's really, really frightening for many people. but we've for many, many people. but we've had for many, many people. but we've not onoop— for many, many people. but we've had cheap stuff— for many, many people. but we've had cheap stuff for— for many, many people. but we've had cheap stuff for a very long tno— had cheap stuff for a very long time without— had cheap stuff for a very long time without giving any thought as time without giving any thought os to— time without giving any thought os to now— time without giving any thought os to now rt— time without giving any thought as to how it gets— time without giving any thought as to how it gets to be cheap. wnoro— as to how it gets to be cheap. wnoro ooos— as to how it gets to be cheap. where does it— as to how it gets to be cheap. where does it come from? why is it where does it come from? why is t o— where does it come from? why is t o ontokon— where does it come from? why is it a chicken only— where does it come from? why is it a chicken only cost thruppence?- it a chicken only cost thruppence? i'm going to pick you— thruppence? i'm going to pick you up— thruppence? i'm going to pick you up pooouso— thruppence? i'm going to pick you up because i've let you have

your— you up because i've let you have your soy. — you up because i've let you have your soy. thoro— you up because i've let you have your say. there and— you up because i've let you have your say. "cl”cl you up because i've let you have your say. there and you've made some very good points. of course, as you always do. but you've mentioned brexit several times. i just want to pick you up and get konner's view on that because has this got anything really to do with brexit? because we've seen food inflation seen reaching record high levels in many european countries? yeah germany's just about to enter a recession as well. and as far as i know, they wont— well. and as far as i know, they didn't withdraw— well. and as far as i know, they didn't withdraw from _ and as far as i know, they didn't withdraw from the turopoon— didn't withdraw from the european union. one thing that you ontttoo— european union. one thing that you ontttoo tn— european union. one thing that you omitted in your analysis moro— you omitted in your analysis them, too,— you omitted in your analysis there, joe, all— you omitted in your analysis there, joe, all of— you omitted in your analysis there, joe, all of those factors oottnttoty— there, joe, all of those factors definitely contribute to it. no nontton— definitely contribute to it. no mention lockdown and 33% of mention of lockdown and 33% of all mention of lockdown and 33% of or pounds— mention of lockdown and 33% of or pounos tn— mention of lockdown and 33% of all pounds in existence were prtntoo— all pounds in existence were prtntoo tn— all pounds in existence were printed in those— all pounds in existence were printed in those two years. it took— printed in those two years. it took oo— printed in those two years. it took some time.— printed in those two years. it took some time. is a great took some time. that is a great stot— took some time. that is a great stot . — took some time. that is a great stot . thoro— took some time. that is a great stat . there you— took some time. that is a great stat . there you go.- took some time. that is a great stat . there you go. i'll- took some time. that is a great stat . “rttrt; grtr tt took some time. that is a great stat . grtr tt stat. there you go. i'll have to fact check that there was a there was a significant amount of well. so and of dollars as well. so and that's-global- of dollars as well. so and that's-global reserve. that's the global reserve currency. obviously it's currency. so obviously it's noktng— currency. so obviously it's making everything way more oponswo— making everything way more expensive-point- making everything way more expensive. point is now expensive. so the point is now tnot-s— expensive. so the point is now. tnot-s—syston that's worked through the system of that's worked through the system ot—gotng— that's worked through the system ot—gotng to- that's worked through the system ot—gotng to nokol of course, that's going to make skyrookottng — of course, that's going to make skyrocketing _and - of course, that's going to make skyrocketing and the skyrocketing inflation. and the reason—about. skyrocketing inflation. and the reaso controls about skyrocketing inflation. and the reaso controls and about skyrocketing inflation. and the reaso controls and makingit skyrocketing inflation. and the reaso controls and making them price controls and making them wotuntory—tno- voluntary as well. so the gowornnont— voluntary as well. so the government isn't on the hook for noktng— government isn't on the hook for noktnglo— government isn't on the hook for making a mandatory policy

making it a mandatory policy tooouso— making it a mandatory policy because-know- making it a mandatory policy because know anytime you because we all know anytime you putlprtoo— because we all know anytime you putlpnoo oop— because we all know anytime you putlpnoo oop on— because we all know anytime you put price cap on overnight, put a price cap on overnight, wnon— put a price cap on overnight, when—hitsl when the price rises, it hits poopko— when the price rises, it hits poopko-tno- when the price rises, it hits people the reason when the price rises, it hits- people-the reason they when the price rises, it hits- peop|to-the reason they when the price rises, it hits peop|to do the reason they when the price rises, it hits peop|to do this the reason they when the price rises, it hits peop|to do this isie reason they when the price rises, it hits peop|to do this is to reason they when the price rises, it hits peop|to do this is to make they when the price rises, it hits peop|to do this is to make a�*iey want to do this is to make a smokescreen_ want to do this is to make a smokescreen away from bank smokescreen away from the bank of smokescreen away from the bank ot tngtono.— smokescreen away from the bank ot tngtono. tno— smokescreen away from the bank of england. the treasury and the sitting— of england. the treasury and the sitting-minister,- of england. the treasury and the sitting minister, who was sitting prime minister, who was the sitting prime minister, who was tno—wno— the chancellor, who have tostookty— the chancellor, who have tostookty-up- the chancellor, who have basically up the the chancellor, who have- basically-up the economy basically screwed up the economy witn— basically screwed up the economy wttn—nut— basically screwed up the economy wttn—nut-ts- with their policy. but why is inflation this inflation so sticky in this country? lasting so country? why is it lasting so long, in particular on food ? any long, in particular on food? any ideas? well, one, it's because we ideas? well, one, it's because wo oon-t— ideas? well, one, it's because we don't produce— 3“ well, one, it's because we don't produce nearly as much of we don't produce nearly as much ot our— we don't produce nearly as much ot toot— we don't produce nearly as much ot toot os— we don't produce nearly as much of our food as america. for oxonpto— of our food as america. for example, there's- of our food as america. for example, there's a great we need to to— example, there's a great we need to to moro— example, there's a great we need to be more self—sufficient. ktsotutoty. — to be more self—sufficient. absolutely. and _ to be more self—sufficient. absolutely. and i agree with you in absolutely. and i agree with you tn torns— absolutely. and i agree with you tn torns ot— absolutely. and i agree with you in terms of the— absolutely. and i agree with you in terms of the farming regulations.— in terms of the farming regulations. not just the regulations. it's not just the post— regulations. it's not just the post-subsidies- regulations. it's not just the. post-subsidies-they post brexit subsidies that they sorowoo— post brexit subsidies that they sorowoolono— post brexit subsidies that they screwed and realise screwed up and didn't realise wnot— screwed up and didn't realise wnot-oo— screwed up and didn't realise wnotloolos— screwed up and didn't realise what.do,.as-i'm| what to do, but as far as i'm concerned, anyone who's watched ctorkson-s— concerned, anyone who's watched ctorkson-s torn — concerned, anyone who's watched clarkson's farm would say depher at clarkson's farm would say depher ot—norol at the lender est, they're more tntorostoo— at the lender est, they're more interested innocent interested in shooting innocent otpooos— interested in shooting innocent otpooos tnon— interested in shooting innocent alpacas than-rid- interested in shooting innocent alpacas than rid of alpacas than getting rid of toots— alpacas than getting rid of loads bureaucracy alpacas than getting rid of loads-bureaucracy is loads of the bureaucracy that is wotgntng— loads of the bureaucracy that is weighing_farmers.| loads of the bureaucracy that is weigwe've_farmers.| loads of the bureaucracy that is weigwe've been farmers. loads of the bureaucracy that is weigwe've been paying:armers. loads of the bureaucracy that is weigwe've been paying them s. loads of the bureaucracy that is weigwe've been paying them to and we've been paying them to rottro. — and we've been paying them to rottro. -oortn— and we've been paying them to retire.-earth are- and we've been paying them to retire. _earth are we- and we've been paying them to retire. that earth are we and we've been paying them to retire. that ratherrth are we and we've been paying them to retire. that rather thane we and we've been paying them to retire. that rather than making doing that rather than making tnot— doing that rather than making sure that they— doing that rather than making sure that they can buy new noontnory— sure that they can buy new noontnory to— sure that they can buy new machinery to deliver us nice toot? — machinery to deliver us nice toot? trott— machinery to deliver us nice food? well, there- machinery to deliver us nice food? �*thr�*rt;tt ”tilt; machinery to deliver us nice food? �*thr�*rt;tt tt�*rtrrt; grtr food? well, there you go. there's there, joe. price there's a lot there, joe. price caps. do think the caps. why do you think the government considering government is even considering these measures? is it these type of measures? is it desperation that can say

desperation so that they can say the milk is staying at the price of milk is staying at £1 or whatever for the next? it is desperation to be seen to be doing something . and i think doing something. and i think that doing something. and i think to wnot— doing something. and i think to wnot ts— doing something. and i think that what is probably- r:rtr g g and i think that what is probably needling ktsnt— that what is probably needling ktsnt sunok— that what is probably needling rishi sunak quite a lot is oonttnuot— rishi sunak quite a lot is continual polling that shows tnot— continual polling that shows that although— continual polling that shows that although people will prefer him that although people will prefer ntn tn— that although people will prefer ntn tn nony— that although people will prefer ntn tn nony .— that although people will prefer him in many , many ways to his him in many, many ways to his proooososor— him in many, many ways to his predecessor answers and they in tnoy— predecessor answers and they in some cases they prefer him to his conservative— some cases they prefer him to his conservative party there is tnts— his conservative party there is tnts nugo— his conservative party there is this huge disconnect because he is this huge disconnect because he ts so— this huge disconnect because he is so fabulously— this huge disconnect because he is so fabulously wealthy, so on tnogtnopty— is so fabulously wealthy, so on imaginably wealthy, i think he comes across— imaginably wealthy, i think he comes across as— imaginably wealthy, i think he comes across as quite humble, tnougn— comes across as quite humble, tnougn t— comes across as quite humble, though i think— comes across as quite humble, though i think no,— comes across as quite humble, though i think no, i mean, i otsogroo— though i think no, i mean, i disagree with— though i think no, i mean, i disagree with him on all sorts, tut— disagree with him on all sorts, tut t— disagree with him on all sorts, tut t oon-t— disagree with him on all sorts, but i don't think— disagree with him on all sorts, but i don't think he comes across as this— but i don't think he comes across as this sort of i think tnoro— across as this sort of i think tnoro ts— across as this sort of i think there is that— across as this sort of i think there is that sense of, you know— there is that sense of, you know you— there is that sense of, you know, you to— there is that sense of, you know, you do something desperate wnon— know, you do something desperate wnon you— know, you do something desperate when you suddenly— know, you do something desperate when you suddenly come up ogotnst— when you suddenly come up against somebody who look, against somebody who says, look, i'm against somebody who says, look, t-n o— against somebody who says, look, t-n o-or— against somebody who says, look, t-n o-or tn— against somebody who says, look, t-n o-or t-n o— against somebody who says, look, i'm a or i'm a teacher or i'm a nurse or i'm a teacher or tn— i'm a nurse or i'm a teacher or t-n-on— i'm a nurse or i'm a teacher or t-n-on ooroog- i'm a nurse or i'm a teacher or i'm an average salary i'm earning an average salary ono— i'm earning an average salary onot tn— i'm earning an average salary onot t-n stttt— i'm earning an average salary and i'm still having to go to a bonk— and i'm still having to go to a tonk-tonto— and i'm still having to go to a bank. _panic because- and i'm still having to go to a bank. 37x?" rt t and i'm still having to go to a- bank. _panic because he can't bank. yes panic because he can't relate he speak to relate and he can't speak to people as if they're normal people. that is a problem for a

lot of our politicians. david just says very quickly, a voluntary price cap is an oxymoron. says government oxymoron. alan says government control was tried in control of prices was tried in the and the soviet union for years and queues went the block just queues went round the block just to some bread. so there you to get some bread. so there you 90, to get some bread. so there you go, again. it seems go, slammed again. it seems everyone is slamming this potential the potential policy so the government probably won't go ahead but knows? ahead with it, but who knows? they sometimes mad coming up ahead with it, but who knows? thrthe sometimes mad coming up ahead with it, but who knows? thrthe metrmetimes mad coming up ahead with it, but who knows? thrthe met police es mad coming up ahead with it, but who knows? thrthe met police announcediing up ahead with it, but who knows? thrthe met police announced theyip as the met police announced they will no longer respond to mental health with are asking health call outs with are asking is dereliction of duty .

it's the scandal that's rocked british - it's the scandal that's rocked british television.— - it's the scandal that's rocked british television. phillip- british television. phillip sonottoto— british television. phillip schofield ,_ british television. phillip schofield , one of britain's schofield, one of britain's ptggost— schofield, one of britain's biggest stars,— schofield, one of britain's biggest stars, brought down over liesr_ biggest stars, brought down over ttos oooott— biggest stars, brought down over lies, deceit and— biggest stars, brought down over lies, deceit and betrayal. tontgnt— lies, deceit and betrayal. tontgnt t— lies, deceit and betrayal. tonight i sit— lies, deceit and betrayal. tonight i sit down with eamonn uotnos— tonight i sit down with eamonn uotnos os— tonight i sit down with eamonn holmes as the— tonight i sit down with eamonn holmes as the former this norntng— holmes as the former this morning host— holmes as the former this morning host reveals the truth otout— morning host reveals the truth otout tno— morning host reveals the truth about the man— morning host reveals the truth about the man he— morning host reveals the truth about the man he shared the toous— about the man he shared the toous soto— about the man he shared the famous sofa with— about the man he shared the famous sofa with . t famous sofa with. i think philip is absolutely right about toxicity, but my friend , the toxicity, but my friend, the toxicity, but my friend, the toxicity is not with me , dan toxicity is not with me, dan wootton or anyone else. the toxicity is with you at

schofield hits back. eamonn tells me what— schofield hits back. eamonn tells me what really- t: t“ t eamonn tells me what really happened tnstoo— tells me what really happened tnstoo ttv— tells me what really happened tnstoo ttv .— tells me what really happened inside itv . schofield the real inside itv. schofield the real story— inside itv. schofield the real story exclusively— inside itv. schofield the real story exclusively on dan wootton tontgnt— story exclusively on dan wootton tontgnt tron — story exclusively on dan wootton tontgnt tron 9— story exclusively on dan wootton tonight from 9 pm. on gb news ortts— tonight from 9 pm. on gb news ortts tows— tonight from 9 pm. on gb news ortts tows .— brits news. channel ittotoonno- brits news. channel iwelcome back- brits news. channel welcome back to dewbs& co. with me, emily carver. so keeping me company until 7:00 is joe phillips, political commentator and tomlinson, who is and connor tomlinson, who is a writer and podcast host and who has just informed me that he eats a protein only diet steak for breakfast, lunch and dinner. is that right? connor mainly dinner, yeah . protein shakes in dinner, yeah. protein shakes in the dinner, yeah. protein shakes in too norntng— dinner, yeah. protein shakes in the morning and— dinner, yeah. protein shakes in the morning and for— r: protein shakes in the morning and for lunch. well, tnoro— the morning and for lunch. well, tnoro you— the morning and for lunch. well, tnoro you go. — the morning and for lunch. well, there you go. that's.- the morning and for lunch. well, there you go. that's. that must be where his common sense views come from. shakes. no, you've got to— come from. shakes. no, you've got to oot— come from. shakes. no, you've got to oot propor— t shakes. no, you've got to eat proper food. that nokos— got to eat proper food. that nokos no— got to eat proper food. that makes me feel— got to eat proper food. that makes me feel all right. i'm quite all right. doesn't he knows— quite all right. doesn't he knows to— quite all right. doesn't he

know? he looks— r: g doesn't he know? he looks rather tired. rt; know? he looks rather tired. he kooks— know? he looks rather tired. he kooks ttrou. — know? he looks rather tired. he looks tired. well,— know? he looks rather tired. he looks tired. well, he's- know? he looks rather tired. he looks tired. well, he's been out on on the lash. a rock. on the. out on the lash. a rock. i heard. i heard a rough weekend. well, don't. i don't weekend. well, i don't. i don't think he's going— weekend. well, i don't. i don't think he's going-with- think he's going to be with totrtok— think he's going to be with totrtok ot— think he's going to be with patrick at-male- think he's going to be with patrick at male stripper patrick at that male stripper tntng. — patrick at that male stripper tntng. untoss— patrick at that male stripper thing. unless, you know the doom — thing. unless, you know the dream. we've— thing. unless, you know the dream. we've only- thing. unless, you know the dream. grtr ”t 3 dream. we've only got 4 or 5 minutes left of the show. unfortunately we're going to unfortunately so we're going to go our our go straight into our next our last police. last subject, the met police. but first, i've just but first, actually, i've just been told we've got been told that we've got a lovely message about a certain panellist, joe for balance. richard says, i just say richard says, can i just say that is and always will be that joe is and always will be the best panellist on dewbs& co? and that's coming from someone that disagrees with most of what she well, how very kind. she says. well, how very kind. thank you, richard . that is thank you, richard. that is gutte— thank you, richard. that is quite funny. that is quite funny. and i must say, my mum also the best out of also likes joe the best out of that. i love your mum, chicken. i'm joking. i'm joking. so from september the met police have announced will longer announced they will no longer attend mental health call outs unless there is an immediate threat to life. they believe it will officers who spend will free up officers who spend an estimated 20 to 40% of their time dealing with such incidents . met police commissioner . s the met police commissioner

mark patients mark rowley said both patients and public were being failed and the public were being failed because of the lack of appropriate has appropriate help. nationwide has been reported that 30,000 muggings went unsolved last yeah muggings went unsolved last year. so connor , we've got the year. so connor, we've got the police saying that they no longer want to be called or no longer want to be called or no longer want to go out when they're called for mental health incidents. i think that that is a dereliction of duty because mental health incidents, when there who are clearly there are people who are clearly mentally unwell, they can act in very unpredict well unpredictable ways. and you don't know if there's going to be an immediate threat to life. yeah, you're going to have to rely on sort of witness testimony phone, which testimony down the phone, which could downplay could actually downplay the severity situation. and severity of the situation. and this is both to other- kit" and this is both to other people. of course, .they're _ this is both to other people. of course, they're unstable and course, if they're unstable and tnoy-ro— course, if they're unstable and they're endangering other people or—otl they're endangering other people or|ttno,—ot| they're endangering other people or|ttno tt—otl they're endangering other people oritime, if you _ofl they're endangering other people or time, if you just of they're endangering other people or time, if you just send of the time, if you just send a sootot— the time, if you just send a social worker— the time, if you just send a social worker out to chat to someone, you do- social worker out to chat to someone, you do need to forcibly sutouo— someone, you do need to forcibly sutouo-wno— someone, you do need to forcibly subdue _who are - someone, you do need to forcibly subdue who are going for subdue people who are going for a subdue people who are going for o psyonotto— subdue people who are going for a psychotic episode. it might be trytng— a psychotic episode. it might be trying-themselves- a psychotic episode. it might be trying themselves for trying to harm themselves for tnotr—so- trying to harm themselves for tnotr—so t- trying to harm themselves for tnotr—so t tusti their own good. and so i just sort— their own good. and so i just sortlguostton— their own good. and so i just sort question understand sort of question i understand tnts— sort of question i understand tnts-on— sort of question i understand tnts-on-otl this might be an issue of resource allocation, but again,

tnoy-ro— resource allocation, but again, tnoy-ro-ottor- they're not going after burglaries.— burglaries. they've been increasingly— increasingly enforcing public oroor— increasingly enforcing public oroo-tor— increasingly enforcing public order-for-who. increasingly enforcing public. order-for-who have order acts for people who have soto— order acts for people who have soto-tntngs- order acts for people who have said things outdoors said offensive things outdoors or-onttno.— said offensive things outdoors or-onttno. tt— said offensive things outdoors or-online. it just- said offensive things outdoors or online. it just seems or on or online. it just seems tnot— or on or online. it just seems to tt-s— or on or online. it just seems no tt-s gotng— or on or online. it just seems that it's going in— or on or online. it just seems that it's going in the wrong otrootton— that it's going in the wrong direction .to_ that it's going in the wrong direction .to the - that it's going in the wrong direction to the issues direction as to the issues ootuotty— direction as to the issues actually face _ direction as to the issues actually face people. and it's wotro— actually face people. and it's wotro tnot— actually face people. and it's weird that pretty— actually face people. and it's weird that pretty much every stngto— weird that pretty much every stngto pottoo— weird that pretty much every single police reform seems pro ortntnot— single police reform seems pro ortntnot or— single police reform seems pro ortntnot or pro— single police reform seems pro criminal or pro public disorder. i criminal or pro public disorder. t noon— criminal or pro public disorder. i mean, we're seeing the same tntng— i mean, we're seeing the same tntng tn— i mean, we're seeing the same thing in america— i mean, we're seeing the same thing in america now of where toroon— thing in america now of where we've jordan neely on the train, for we've jordan neely on the train, tor oxonpto— we've jordan neely on the train, tor okonpto, tn— we've jordan neely on the train, for example, in new york, the wno— for example, in new york, the man who subdued the mentally ill wno— man who subdued the mentally ill wno noo— man who subdued the mentally ill man who had an— man who subdued the mentally ill man who had an arrest record has ooon— man who had an arrest record has now been arrested. _ man who had an arrest record has now been arrested. so it's a lot of now been arrested. so it's a lot ot tno— now been arrested. so it's a lot ot tno ttno— now been arrested. so it's a lot ot tno ttno tt— now been arrested. so it's a lot of the time it feels— now been arrested. so it's a lot of the time it feels like law ottotng— of the time it feels like law abiding citizens— of the time it feels like law abiding citizens or people that are abiding citizens or people that rust— abiding citizens or people that tust trytng— abiding citizens or people that tust trytng to— abiding citizens or people that are just trying to help people wno— are just trying to help people wno oro— are just trying to help people wno gotng— are just trying to help people who are going through something , who are going through something tnoy-ro— who are going through something , tnoy-ro tno— who are going through something , they're the ones— who are going through something , they're the ones being criminalised. - , they're the ones being criminalised. , they're the ones being- criminalised. .law protects , they're the ones being- crin perpetrator - law protects , they're the ones being crinperpetrator more iw protects , they're the ones being crinperpetrator more than)tects , they're the ones being crinperpetrator more than ittcts the perpetrator more than it protects the victim. sometimes the balance isn't right. i think you make make an interesting you make a make an interesting point there. i've heard the same, comes same, particularly when it comes to states over in the to the states over in the states, joe, to give another view, lee has written in, he says as a paramedic like the police, we spend most of our time having to deal with mental

health outs and waste health call outs and waste a good of our evenings good deal of our evenings talking through issues with those who have medical need those who have no medical need at there's other at all because there's no other service them. so service to deal with them. so there do have some sympathy there we do have some sympathy and my a paramedic and and my son's a paramedic and that's exactly what i would have said. and all that's going to noppon— said. and all that's going to nopponltnot— said. and all that's going to happen .that the - r: and all that's going to happen that the police are happen is that the police are going— happen is that the police are gotngltunnot— happen is that the police are going funnel problem to going to funnel the problem to sonotooy— going to funnel the problem to somebody-what- going to funnel the problem to somebody what you have somebody else. but what you have to—tnot— somebody else. but what you have to—tnot onty- somebody else. but what you have to _that only the - to remember is that only the pottoo— to remember is that only the pottoo us— to remember is that only the police us have— to remember is that only the police us have the right right togotty— police us have the right right togotty to— police us have the right right legally to take— police us have the right right legally to take someone to a ptooo— legally to take someone to a ptooo ot— legally to take someone to a place of safety— legally to take someone to a place of safety .— legally to take someone to a place of safety . paramedics place of safety. paramedics oon-t— place of safety. paramedics oon-t tto— place of safety. paramedics can't do that. _ place of safety. paramedics can't do that. if— place of safety. paramedics can't do that. if somebody rousost— can't do that. if somebody rousost to— can't do that. if somebody refuses to go _ can't do that. if somebody refuses to go in- can't do that. if somebody refuses to go in an ambulance, you— refuses to go in an ambulance, you oon-t— refuses to go in an ambulance, you oon-t noko— refuses to go in an ambulance, you can't make somebody go in an ontutonoo— you can't make somebody go in an ambulance. and— you can't make somebody go in an ambulance. and the— you can't make somebody go in an ambulance. and the idea that tnoro— ambulance. and the idea that tnoro wouto— ambulance. and the idea that there would be— ambulance. and the idea that there would be a— ambulance. and the idea that there would be a social worker owottotto— there would be a social worker gvgpgng, t— there would be a social worker available, i mean,— there would be a social worker available, i mean, there aren't sootot— available, i mean, there aren't social-available- available, i mean, there aren't social available to social workers available to go ono— social workers available to go onot soo— social workers available to go on poopto— social workers available to go and see people in their own nonos— and see people in their own nonos to— and see people in their own homes to look— and see people in their own homes to look after children or old homes to look after children or oto-poopto- old people or people with toorntng— old people or people with learning difficulties . you know, learning difficulties. you know, tnts— learning difficulties. you know, this-ridiculous.— learning difficulties. you know, this ridiculous. this is just this is ridiculous. this is just pusntng— this is ridiculous. this is just pushing problem somewhere pushing the problem somewhere otso— pushing the problem somewhere otso, rust— pushing the problem somewhere otso, tust tron— pushing the problem somewhere else, just from this past past nour— else, just from this past past nour wttn— else, just from this past past hour with with— else, just from this past past hour with with you two, it seems the hour with with you two, it seems too strtktng— hour with with you two, it seems the striking, the— hour with with you two, it seems the striking, the theme that to — the striking, the theme that seems to run— the striking, the theme that seems to run through everything is seems to run through everything ts- tto— seems to run through everything ts- yuo-snortogo- seems to run through everything ts- yuo-snortogo .| is shortage. we are shortage. britain, great shortage, britain is what we are at the moment. we

don't is what we are at the moment. we dont enough is what we are at the moment. we don't enough of anything. don't have enough of anything. it . let's just go to it seems. let's just go to angela very quickly . she says angela very quickly. she says the are not social the police are not social workers or mental health professionals. through professionals. crime is through the need to the roof. they need to concentrate that . well, the concentrate on that. well, the 30,000 that 30,000 muggings that went unsolved last year shows us that is case, as well as people is the case, as well as people stealing cars as all of these smaller but very important crimes, very devastating crimes for individuals, for victims are going unsolved, unnoticed . gavin going unsolved, unnoticed. gavin says the mental health act always stated that the primary agency responsible for dealing mental health, dealing with mental health, dealing with mental the nhs. the mental health was the nhs. the problem didn't. the problem was they didn't. so the police pick up the police had to pick up the pieces. well, there you go. people seem to be sympathetic with police and the fact with the police and the fact that have so much to do and that they have so much to do and they can't be dealing with people with health people with mental health problems everything problems on top of everything else. note , i'd else. well, on that note, i'd like to thank you both. thank you very indeed. conor you very much indeed. conor tomlinson joe phillips with tomlinson and joe phillips with me. you very much indeed. tomlinson and joe phillips with me. much'ou very much indeed. tomlinson and joe phillips with me. much enjoyed much indeed. tomlinson and joe phillips with me. much enjoyed that. indeed. i very much enjoyed that. michelle tomorrow, michelle will be back tomorrow, of nigel farage is of course. and nigel farage is coming the top of the coming up at the top of the houn coming up at the top of the hour. so stay tuned . good

hour. so stay tuned. good evening. my name- hour. so stay tuned. good evening. my name is- tt�*rtr: good evening. my name is rachel hour. so stay tuned. good- evening. my name is rachel eyers and evening. my name is rachel eyers onot wooornot— evening. my name is rachel eyers and welcome to— evening. my name is rachel eyers and welcome to your latest gb tows— and welcome to your latest gb news weather— and welcome to your latest gb news weather forecast brought to you by— news weather forecast brought to you by too — news weather forecast brought to you by too trot— news weather forecast brought to you by the met office. so this tonk— you by the met office. so this tonk nottooy— you by the met office. so this bank holiday monday has been protty— bank holiday monday has been protty sotttoo— bank holiday monday has been pretty settled and that's not going— pretty settled and that's not gotng to— pretty settled and that's not gotng to-os- pretty settled and that's not gotng to-os wo- pretty settled and that's not going to as we go through going to change as we go through tontgnt— going to change as we go through tontgnt-nort— going to change as we go through tonight-next couple- going to change as we go through tonight next couple of tonight or the next couple of toys— tonight or the next couple of toys wttn— tonight or the next couple of days with this— tonight or the next couple of days with this area of high pressure still— days with this area of high pressure still remaining centred to tno— pressure still remaining centred to the northwest— pressure still remaining centred to the northwest of the uk as we go tnto — to the northwest of the uk as we go tnto tno — to the northwest of the uk as we go tnto tno ono— to the northwest of the uk as we go into the end of— to the northwest of the uk as we go into the end of may. but it ooos— go into the end of may. but it does mean that— go into the end of may. but it does mean that we have got these trtsk— does mean that we have got these brisk northeasterly_ does mean that we have got these brisk northeasterly winds pusntng— brisk northeasterly winds pushing cloud into eastern areas and pushing cloud into eastern areas onot tnot— pushing cloud into eastern areas onot tnot ts— pushing cloud into eastern areas and that is what— pushing cloud into eastern areas and that is what we will see tnrougn— and that is what we will see tnrougn tnts— and that is what we will see through this evening and oworntgnt— through this evening and oworntgnt .— through this evening and overnight . the cloud will make overnight. the cloud will make its overnight. the cloud will make tts woy— overnight. the cloud will make its way westwards— overnight. the cloud will make its way westwards into tuesday norntng. — its way westwards into tuesday norntng. so— its way westwards into tuesday norntng. so o— its way westwards into tuesday morning. so a slightly cloudier stort— morning. so a slightly cloudier stort to— morning. so a slightly cloudier stort to tno— morning. so a slightly cloudier start to the day— morning. so a slightly cloudier start to the day further west. out— start to the day further west. out wnoro— start to the day further west. but where we— start to the day further west. but where we do— start to the day further west. but where we do keep those ootoror— but where we do keep those clearer spells, _ but where we do keep those clearer spells, temperatures wttt— clearer spells, temperatures wttt trop— clearer spells, temperatures will drop more— clearer spells, temperatures will drop more readily tonight ono— will drop more readily tonight onot wo— will drop more readily tonight and we could— will drop more readily tonight and we could see a touch of trost— and we could see a touch of trost tn— and we could see a touch of frost in some— and we could see a touch of frost in some rural areas in the nonn— frost in some rural areas in the nortn. so— frost in some rural areas in the nortn. so os— frost in some rural areas in the nortn. so os wo— frost in some rural areas in the north. so as we go— frost in some rural areas in the north. so as we go through to ruosooy— north. so as we go through to tuesday morning,— north. so as we go through to tuesday morning, that cloud will stort— tuesday morning, that cloud will stort to— tuesday morning, that cloud will stort to turn— tuesday morning, that cloud will start to burn back— tuesday morning, that cloud will start to burn back towards the tonn— start to burn back towards the uortn soo— start to burn back towards the uortn soo to— start to burn back towards the north sea to leave plenty of trtgnt— north sea to leave plenty of prtgnt ono— north sea to leave plenty of bright and sunny weather across. ttony— bright and sunny weather across. nony ostorn— bright and sunny weather across. many western areas of the uk tnrougn— many western areas of the uk through tuesday.— many western areas of the uk through tuesday. it will always

remain cloudier— through tuesday. it will always remain cloudier down east and ooost— remain cloudier down east and ooost wttn— remain cloudier down east and coast with that— remain cloudier down east and coast with that brisk northeasterly breeze taking the oogo — northeasterly breeze taking the oogo ott— northeasterly breeze taking the edge off those— northeasterly breeze taking the edge off those temperatures toro— edge off those temperatures noro. out— edge off those temperatures here. but the _ edge off those temperatures here. but the highest temperatures will be seen turtnor— temperatures will be seen further west— temperatures will be seen further west ,_ temperatures will be seen further west , where we could see further west, where we could see tnto— further west, where we could see tnto tno — further west, where we could see tnto to tow— further west, where we could see into the low to— further west, where we could see into the low to mid— further west, where we could see into the low to mid 20s on ruosooy— into the low to mid 20s on tuesday into— into the low to mid 20s on tuesday into tuesday evening and ttoonosooy— tuesday into tuesday evening and wednesday morning. once again, tnot— wednesday morning. once again, to otouo— wednesday morning. once again, to otouo ts— wednesday morning. once again, that cloud is going— wednesday morning. once again, that cloud is going to push in tron— that cloud is going to push in tron tno— that cloud is going to push in from the east— that cloud is going to push in from the east and make its way turtnor— from the east and make its way further westwards— from the east and make its way further westwards than what we've seen of— further westwards than what we've seen of late. so a sttgntty— we've seen of late. so a slightly cloudier start to the day— slightly cloudier start to the toy on— slightly cloudier start to the day on wednesday for parts of ttotos— day on wednesday for parts of ttotos ono— day on wednesday for parts of wales and southwest england and wttn— wales and southwest england and wttn ott— wales and southwest england and wttn ott tnot— wales and southwest england and with all that cloud— wales and southwest england and with all that cloud around temperatures— with all that cloud around temperatures in many towns and otttos— temperatures in many towns and otttos won-t— temperatures in many towns and cities won't drop— temperatures in many towns and cities won't drop out of the ooutto— cities won't drop out of the double figures— cities won't drop out of the double figures to start wednesday— double figures to start wednesday morning. now with more in wednesday morning. now with more tn tno— wednesday morning. now with more tn tno woy— wednesday morning. now with more tn tno woy ot— wednesday morning. now with more in the way of cloud— wednesday morning. now with more in the way of cloud around on woonosooy,— in the way of cloud around on wednesday, it's— in the way of cloud around on wednesday, it's going to take a ttttto— wednesday, it's going to take a ttttto ott— wednesday, it's going to take a little bit more— wednesday, it's going to take a little bit more time for any of tnot— little bit more time for any of to to— little bit more time for any of to to turn— little bit more time for any of that to burn back— little bit more time for any of that to burn back towards the oost— that to burn back towards the oost. so— that to burn back towards the oost. so o— that to burn back towards the east. so a slightly cloudier day for east. so a slightly cloudier day tor wotos— east. so a slightly cloudier day tor ttotos .— east. so a slightly cloudier day for wales , southwest england, for wales, southwest england, but for wales, southwest england, tut-stu— for wales, southwest england, tut-stttt to- for wales, southwest england, but still be bright but there will still be bright spots— but there will still be bright spotts noro. — but there will still be bright spells here. and that's really sots— spells here. and that's really sots tno— spells here. and that's really sets the theme _ spells here. and that's really sets the theme for the rest of tno— sets the theme for the rest of too wook— sets the theme for the rest of the week with— sets the theme for the rest of the week with an— sets the theme for the rest of the week with an east west split oonttnutng— the week with an east west split continuing ing._ the week with an east west split continuing ing. but we will see tonporoturos— continuing ing. but we will see temperatures reaching the temperatures still reaching the low

temperatures still reaching the tow-.—

it's the story everyone's totktng— it's the story everyone's talking about. jv/rt;s t talking about. yes, it's the phillip schofield saga and the cover up from itv , i'll be cover up from itv, i'll be joined tonight by dan wootton. both he and, of course, gb news eamonn holmes right at the centre of this row. i'll also be talking to professor karol sikora , who used to work for the sikora, who used to work for the world health organisation about their future pandemic treaty. just how much of a threat to national democracy would that be? but before that and much else, let's get the news with bethany elsey . nigel, thank you.

bethany elsey. nigel, thank you. horos—