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grilling— and itv bosses are set to face a mum from — and itv bosses are set to face a grilling from mps_ and itv bosses are set to face a grilling from mps over what they knew— grilling from mps over what they knew about— grilling from mps over what they knew about phillip schofield affair— knew about phillip schofield aiiaii wiiii— knew about phillip schofield affair with a _ knew about phillip schofield affair with a much younger coiieague— affair with a much younger coiieague ,— affair with a much younger coiieague , a— affair with a much younger colleague , a much younger colleague, a much younger colleague,— colleague, a much younger colleague, much younger. "" colleague, much younger. eamonn ioimes— colleague, much younger. eamonn ioimes has— colleague, much younger. eamonn holmes has told gb news he feels he was used to help in a cover up and a threat to humanity. i tech experts warn artificial intelligence _ tech experts warn artificial intelligence could bring about the intelligence could bring about iiie eni— intelligence could bring about iiie eni oi— intelligence could bring about the end of the— intelligence could bring about the end of the world. scary siuii. — the end of the world. scary siuii. iiiai— the end of the world. scary stuff. what does it all mean .7 stuff. what does it all mean? ani— stuff. what does it all mean? and inani— stuff. what does it all mean? and finally, sprinter stewards needed— and finally, sprinter stewards neeiei . — and finally, sprinter stewards neeiei . i— and finally, sprinter stewards needed . i love— and finally, sprinter stewards needed . needed. i love this story. sprinter stewards are needed after just stop oil interrupted the rugby on saturday. the race is on. see what we did there to hire a fleet of foot stewards for this weekend's cup final so i can run after obe protesters. that's a that's if they can get iiieie— that's a that's if they can get there because _ that's a that's if they can get there because there's a train siiike. — there because there's a train siiike. 0h,— there because there's a train strike. oh,-of- there because there's a train strike. oh, of course. strike. oh, yeah, of course. deliberately _ strike. oh, yeah, of course. deliberately good luck, everybody.— deliberately good luck, everybody. and everybody. btec the darby and wreck— everybody. btec the darby and wreck-cup— everybody. btec the darby and wreck-cup .— everybody. btec the darby and wreck-cup . but- everybody. btec the darby and wreck cup . but it's not wreck the fa cup. but it's not all wreck the fa cup. but it's not iii aioui— wreck the fa cup. but it's not all about what— wreck the fa cup. but it's not all about what we think. c»; all about what we think. let us know— all about what we think. let us know what— all about what we think. let us know what you're— all about what we think. let us know what you're thinking about all this. our talking points today. email us at gb views at gb news .com. but first, here's

your morning news with the lovely rory smith . what a lovely lovely rory smith. what a lovely inim— lovely rory smith. what a lovely iniio .— lovely rory smith. what a lovely iniio . iiiank— lovely rory smith. what a lovely intro . thank you,— lovely rory smith. what a lovely intro . thank you, don.- 3:33 what a lovely intro . thank you, don. philip intro. thank you, don. philip schofieii— intro. thank you, don. philip schofield has— intro. thank you, don. philip schofield has been axed as an ambassador— schofield has been axed as an ambassador for— schofield has been axed as an ambassador for the prince's imi— ambassador for the prince's iiusi. iiie— ambassador for the prince's trust. the charity says it is no iongei— trust. the charity says it is no longer appropriate to work with him.— longer appropriate to work with him wei,— longer appropriate to work with him weii, ii— longer appropriate to work with him. well, it comes as mps will giiii— him. well, it comes as mps will giiii iiv— him. well, it comes as mps will giiii iiv in— him. well, it comes as mps will grill itv in parliament next week— grill itv in parliament next week over its— grill itv in parliament next week over its handling of schofield's_ week over its handling of schofield's affair with a younger— schofield's affair with a younger male colleague. the broadcaster— younger male colleague. the broadcaster insists it did investigate— broadcaster insists it did investigate rumours at the time , iii— investigate rumours at the time , iii ioiii— investigate rumours at the time , but both parties— investigate rumours at the time , but both parties denied them . , but both parties denied them. rai— , but both parties denied them. rail passengers— , but both parties denied them. rail passengers are facing iiavei— rail passengers are facing travel disruption amid strike aciion— travel disruption amid strike aciion wiiii— travel disruption amid strike action with train companies. wining— action with train companies. warning services will be seveieiy— warning services will be severely reduced. members of the drivers— severely reduced. members of the drivers unin— severely reduced. members of the drivers union aslef_ severely reduced. members of the drivers union aslef are striking ioiay— drivers union aslef are striking ioiay ani— drivers union aslef are striking ioiay and on— drivers union aslef are striking today and on saturday as well . today and on saturday as well. iiiiie— today and on saturday as well. iiiiie iiie— today and on saturday as well. while the rmt_ today and on saturday as well. while the rmt union members will waik— while the rmt union members will waik oui— while the rmt union members will waik oui on— while the rmt union members will walk out on friday,— while the rmt union members will walk out on friday, aslef eeneiai— walk out on friday, aslef general secretary mick whelan assassi— general secretary mick whelan assasi siss— general secretary mick whelan accused the government of not waning— accused the government of not waaiias a— accused the government of not wanting a resolution. but the ssvsmmsai—

wanting a resolution. but the government says it has facilitated— government says it has facilitated a _ government says it has facilitated a fair and reasonable- facilitated a fair and reasonable pay offer come customers on— reasonable pay offer come customers on prepayment metres are customers on prepayment metres isias— customers on prepayment metres isiag urged— customers on prepayment metres are being urged to— customers on prepayment metres are being urged to avoid missing out are being urged to avoid missing sai sa— are being urged to avoid missing sai sa isos— are being urged to avoid missing out on £400 worth— are being urged to avoid missing out on £400 worth of support wish— out on £400 worth of support wiiis iiisii— out on £400 worth of support with their energy— out on £400 worth of support with their energy bills. all households— with their energy bills. all households were eligible for the sssmmsa-si— households were eligible for the government's energy bill support sssiims— government's energy bill support sssiims wiisii— government's energy bill support scheme, which was— government's energy bill support scheme, which was paid in six iasiaimsais— scheme, which was paid in six instalments over— scheme, which was paid in six instalments over the winter . but instalments over the winter. but wiiis — instalments over the winter. but wiiis siss— instalments over the winter. but with £130 million— instalments over the winter. but with £130 million still with £i30 million still available— with £130 million still available to - with £130 million still available to be claimed , available to be claimed, households— available to be claimed, households are being urged to sssim— households are being urged to redeem their— households are being urged to redeem their vouchers before the isaiiias— redeem their vouchers before the isaiiias sa— redeem their vouchers before the deadline on the— redeem their vouchers before the deadline on the 30th of june. iamiiiss— deadline on the 30th of june. iamiiiss sa— deadline on the 30th of june. families on universal credit are set families on universal credit are ssi is— families on universal credit are ssi is asi— families on universal credit are ssi is gsi mas— families on universal credit are set to get more help with child care costs from _ set to get more help with child care costs from the end of june. iss— care costs from the end of june. iias aspaiimsai— care costs from the end of june. the department for— care costs from the end of june. the department for work and isasisas— the department for work and pensions says— the department for work and pensions says those eligible wiii— pensions says those eligible wiii is— pensions says those eligible will be able— pensions says those eligible will be able to— pensions says those eligible will be able to claim back up to assi— will be able to claim back up to sssi iss— will be able to claim back up to sssi isi sas— will be able to claim back up to £951 for one child— will be able to claim back up to £951 for one child and £1,630 for swa— £951 for one child and £1,630 for two children— £951 for one child and £1,630 for two children or more. that's a iss— for two children or more. that's a si— for two children or more. that's a si iii/s— for two children or more. that's a rise of 47% from _ for two children or more. that's a rise of 47% from the previous iimiis— a rise of 47% from the previous iimiis .— a rise of 47% from the previous limits . that's— a rise of 47% from the previous limits . that's all— a rise of 47% from the previous limits . that's all for now. but

limits. that's all for now. but you— limits. that's all for now. but ysa sa— limits. that's all for now. but ysa asi— limits. that's all for now. but you can get more— limits. that's all for now. but you can get more on all of those sisiiss— you can get more on all of those sisiiss ay— you can get more on all of those stories by visiting _ you can get more on all of those stories by visiting our website. iiiai— stories by visiting our website. iiiai is— stories by visiting our website. that is cbnnews.com nato. back to that is cbnnews.com nato. back is assass— that is cbnnews.com nato. back is aaiasw ani— that is cbnnews.com nato. back to andrew and don— that is cbnnews.com nato. back to andrew and don . to andrew and don. iiv— to andrew and don. itv bosses- to andrew and don. itv bosses will face questions ism— itv bosses will face questions from mis— itv bosses will face questions from mps over— itv bosses will face questions from mps over how much they knew of sinus— from mps over how much they knew of phillip schofield _ from mps over how much they knew of phillip schofield affair isiiswias— of phillip schofield affair following claims that his lover pais— following claims that his lover aaii sif— following claims that his lover paid sii ay— following claims that his lover was paid off by the broadcaster. yes:— was paid off by the broadcaster. vss. my— was paid off by the broadcaster. vss. m, swa— was paid off by the broadcaster. yes, my own newspaper- was paid off by the broadcaster. yes, my own newspaper ,- was paid off by the broadcaster. yes, my own newspaper , the daily yes, my own newspaper, the daily mail, reports that the younger man, who's much younger man, received a financial settlement from the channel before being moved program . moved to a different program. meanwhile, former itv presenter and gb news host eamonn holmes says he felt used and lied to by philip . what happened that night philip. what happened that night at philip. what happened that night ai is— philip. what happened that night at the national— l what happened that night at the national television awards— at the national television awards, from _ at the national television awards, from your perspective ani— awards, from your perspective and saw— awards, from your perspective and has iii— awards, from your perspective and how did it— awards, from your perspective and how did it lead on to philip ssmiag— and how did it lead on to philip ssmias sass— and how did it lead on to philip coming out? so— and how did it lead on to philip coming out? so anyway, he comes inas— coming out? so anyway, he comes iais sa— coming out? so anyway, he comes iais iisssias— coming out? so anyway, he comes into our dressing room and he iaiis— into our dressing room and he iaiis saws— into our dressing room and he falls down on— into our dressing room and he falls down on his— into our dressing room and he falls down on his knees. " falls down on his knees. i mean, the falls down on his knees. i mean, sis acting— falls down on his knees. i mean, sis acting is— falls down on his knees. i mean, the acting is amazing. he falls down his knees woo down in his knees crying, woo hoo hoo hoo hoo hoo . and i said

hoo hoo hoo hoo hoo. and i said to him, hoo hoo hoo hoo hoo. and i said is him, visas-s— hoo hoo hoo hoo hoo. and i said to him, what's the— and i said to him, what's the matter? what-s— to him, what's the matter? visas-s ais— to him, what's the matter? what's the matter? - to him, what's the matter? , i'm to him, what's the matter? flair? ”7’ i'm gay . i'm what's the matter? i'm gay. i'm gay - what's the matter? i'm gay. i'm gay . ani— what's the matter? i'm gay. i'm gay . and i— what's the matter? i'm gay. i'm gay . and i walked— what's the matter? i'm gay. i'm gay . and i walked over- flair? ”7’ i'm gay. i'm gay . and i walked over and gay. and i walked over and i said,— gay. and i walked over and i said, is— gay. and i walked over and i said, is that— gay. and i walked over and i said, is that all? fizz" said, is that all? so we then began to feel there was a certain line being patted here. we said, no, no, no, no. what i'm going to say us believing the truth is that philip is revealing his gay coming out and ruth adlibs without any autocue or anything else . i just decided or anything else. i just decided at this point , or anything else. i just decided at this point, not sure. or anything else. i just decided at this point , not sure. i'm at this point, not sure. i'm just beginning to feel bad vibes about this. i think i'm not saying anything. then it goes to those two and their choreographed way. knowing her faults, are. sure faults, they are. i'm sure they've rehearsed it for days as to what they were going to say and who was going to hug and do and who was going to hug and do and who was going to hug and holly very specific and holly was very specific about she sat, where and holly was very specific about sat, she sat, where and holly was very specific about sat, where sat, where and holly was very specific about sat, where ruth vhere and holly was very specific about sat, where ruth sat,e philip sat, where ruth sat, where was all where i sat. it was all choreographed right . so this choreographed right. so this has been planned it's been been planned for some it's been planned some time . well planned for some time. well we're going to get more analysis now from showbiz reporter. stephanie is here this morning .

stephanie is here this morning. sispiiaais,— stephanie is here this morning. sispiaaais, iasi— stephanie is here this morning. stephanie, just so— stephanie is here this morning. stephanie, just so people isaiiss— stephanie, just so people realise this— stephanie, just so people realise this was a long planned mssiias— realise this was a long planned mssiias iss— realise this was a long planned meeting for itv— realise this was a long planned meeting for itv executives when sissy— meeting for itv executives when is 90 — meeting for itv executives when is as isisis— meeting for itv executives when they go before the— meeting for itv executives when they go before the commons, ssissi— they go before the commons, select committee— they go before the commons, select committee next week, it's the select committee next week, it's iiis saiiais— select committee next week, it's the culture media— select committee next week, it's the culture media and sport ssissi— the culture media and sport select committee. but mps on iiiai— select committee. but mps on that committee— select committee. but mps on that committee have already iaaisaisi— that committee have already indicated that— that committee have already indicated that they will ask iiism — indicated that they will ask iiism assai— indicated that they will ask them about this huge burning issas— them about this huge burning . way— them about this huge burning . way is— them about this huge burning issue . why is it— them about this huge burning issue . why is it an issue for issue. why is it an issue for psiiiisiaas— issue. why is it an issue for politicians to— issue. why is it an issue for politicians to get involved in iiiss— politicians to get involved in iiiss os— politicians to get involved in iiiss as you— politicians to get involved in this? do you think? f this? do you think? because the msaia— this? do you think? because the media is one of the most fundamental institutions we have in this country , it's more in this country, it's more powerful than people know . and powerful than people know. and especially with shows like- especially with shows like this morning,— especially with shows like this morning, which _ especially with shows like this morning, which is intrinsically iiaksi— morning, which is intrinsically iiaissi is— morning, which is intrinsically linked to advertisement. how it's linked to advertisement. how is asspis— linked to advertisement. how it's people worldwide can watch it. it's people worldwide can watch is ani— it's people worldwide can watch is and sass— it's people worldwide can watch it. and even the— it's people worldwide can watch it. and even the princes trust isiag— it. and even the princes trust being associated _ it. and even the princes trust being associated with it. and to kiss— being associated with it. and to issa isas— being associated with it. and to issa iiiai ii-s— being associated with it. and to know that it's been breeding a saiiais— know that it's been breeding a saiiais sf— know that it's been breeding a culture of toxicity— know that it's been breeding a culture of toxicity is something isas— culture of toxicity is something iiiai vou— culture of toxicity is something that you cannot— culture of toxicity is something that you cannot not mention in iaiiiamsai. — that you cannot not mention in parliament. the— that you cannot not mention in parliament. the parliament has isas— parliament. the parliament has isas ss— parliament. the parliament has isas ss mash— parliament. the parliament has done so much over— parliament. the parliament has done so much over the past few years— done so much over the past few ysais is— done so much over the past few ysais is iaik— done so much over the past few years to talk about— done so much over the past few years to talk about mental isaiiii— years to talk about mental isaiiis ani— years to talk about mental health and it— years to talk about mental health and it has close associations- health and it has close associations with tv. so now isas— associations with tv. so now iiiai iiis— associations with tv. so now that this scandal— associations with tv. so now that this scandal is happening, it that this scandal is happening, is ssaiia-i— that this scandal is happening, it couldn't have— that this scandal is happening, it couldn't have come at a worse aims— it couldn't have come at a worse iims isa— it couldn't have come at a worse iims iss iiv— it couldn't have come at a worse time for itv because this was asi— time for itv because this was ass as— time for itv because this was ass an is— time for itv because this was not on the agenda for next week in parliament.—

not on the agenda for next week in parliament. it— not on the agenda for next week in parliament. it was the in parliament. it was about the msaia— in parliament. it was about the msiia iii— in parliament. it was about the media bill and— in parliament. it was about the media bill and the draft of it. sai— media bill and the draft of it. sas asa— media bill and the draft of it. but now that— media bill and the draft of it. but now that it's— media bill and the draft of it. but now that it's come to the aaiiis-s— but now that it's come to the public's attention, anne, there are public's attention, anne, there ass—is- public's attention, anne, there ass—is bel are questions that need to be answered—and. are questions that need to be. answered._and dawn answered. and andrew and dawn sassy— answered. and andrew and dawn sassy say— answered. and andrew and dawn sassy say sissss-s— answered. and andrew and dawn every day there's new part of every day there's a new part of iisis— every day there's a new part of iisis sissy. — every day there's a new part of iisis sissy. ssa— every day there's a new part of this story. you know, the daily iiaii— this story. you know, the daily iiaii today— this story. you know, the daily mail today reporting that the boy— mail today reporting that the boy is— mail today reporting that the boy in question,— mail today reporting that the boy in question, the man in aassiissa— boy in question, the man in question, philip's lover, had ssssissi— question, philip's lover, had ssssissi a— question, philip's lover, had received a payment. so if he did receive a payment,— received a payment. so if he did receive a payment, it's ssssssiisissg— receive a payment, it's something that higher ups may hass— something that higher ups may has known— something that higher ups may have known about, should have known— have known about, should have issas assai— have known about, should have issas aisai .— have known about, should have known about , about. so have known about, should have known about, about. so there's all known about, about. so there's aii sissss— known about, about. so there's all these questions that itv isavs— all these questions that itv has said— all these questions that itv have said that— all these questions that itv have said that they've done this in investigation.— have said that they've done this in investigation. but clearly sissy— in investigation. but clearly is isavsss-i— in investigation. but clearly they haven't investigated it properly_ they haven't investigated it properly .— they haven't investigated it properlv - and_ they haven't investigated it properly . and there has to be an properly. and there has to be an issispsssisssi— properly. and there has to be an independent investor station issas— independent investor station sisaiwiii— independent investor station sisai wiii iss— independent investor station that will be needed into this . that will be needed into this. iiis— that will be needed into this. iiis is— that will be needed into this. iiis is sis— that will be needed into this. this is the thing,— that will be needed into this. this is the thing, if— that will be needed into this. this is the thing, if this- that will be needed into this. this is the thing, if this is- this is the thing, if this is true, though, about the money, we know what it was paid we don't know what it was paid for or why, then how can they continue saying they didn't know anything well, is anything about it? well, this is why unravelling quicker why it's unravelling quicker than like to hope and than itv would like to hope and it's happening on a daily basis . and for the newspapers to be ssmias— . and for the newspapers to be ssmias sss— . and for the newspapers to be ssmiag sss wish— . and for the newspapers to be coming on with all— and for the newspapers to be coming on with all this information,— coming on with all this information, clearly someone's isakissg— information, clearly someone's leaking information to leaking this information to sissm. — leaking this information to them. newspapers probably

them. the newspapers probably has— them. the newspapers probably have-source.theirl have a strong source on their siiss— have a strong source on their siiss. ss— have a strong source on their siiss. so was— have a strong source on their sides. so who knows by next week assai— sides. so who knows by next week issas-hass— sides. so who knows by next week what-have come— sides. so who knows by next week what-have come out. - sides. so who knows by next week what have come out. and what would have come out. and the what would have come out. and iiss shins— what would have come out. and iiss iisisss is— what would have come out. and the thing is,-itv_ what would have come out. and the thing is, itv bosses, the thing is, with itv bosses, sissy-vs— the thing is, with itv bosses, they've statements saying they've put on statements saying issas—siss— that we've done this investigation in 2020. three ysass— investigation in 2020. three ysass iaiss— investigation in 2020. three years later, now— investigation in 2020. three years later, now we're finding more information— years later, now we're finding more information that's coming out more information that's coming sas .— more information that's coming sas . assi— more information that's coming sas . asia as— more information that's coming out . and at the— more information that's coming out . and at the moment, itv are out. and at the moment, itv are assaying— out. and at the moment, itv are assaying sissy-ss— out. and at the moment, itv are denying they're not— out. and at the moment, itv are denying they're not even they're not denying they're not even they're ass sisa— denying they're not even they're not even responding to comment assai— not even responding to comment aisai iisis— not even responding to comment about this hush— not even responding to comment about this hush money. so it's asi— about this hush money. so it's ass isskisss— about this hush money. so it's not looking good— about this hush money. so it's not looking good for us to be at all not looking good for us to be at aii ai— not looking good for us to be at aii as siss— not looking good for us to be at all at the moment. �*fsi�*iz; " all at the moment. we've put in all at the moment. we've put in a number of questions to them this they've just not this week. they've just not responded. so people understand this phillip has been responded. so people understand this pclear. has been responded. so people understand this pclear. relationshipen quite clear. the relationship with young man was with this young man was inappropriate , but illegal. inappropriate, but not illegal. yes, has said it. he's made yes, she has said it. he's made it very yes, she has said it. he's made is sssy sisas— yes, she has said it. he's made it very clear that— yes, she has said it. he's made it very clear that this- “411th i: l he's made it very clear that this was a consensual relationship , that he consensual relationship, that he si— consensual relationship, that he of ass— consensual relationship, that he of ass .— consensual relationship, that he as as . ii-s— consensual relationship, that he was of age . it's just he says was of age. it's just he says is— was of age. it's just he says its asswiss— was of age. it's just he says its .— was of age. it's just he says it's unwise , which you can it's unwise, which you can sisasiy— it's unwise, which you can sisasiy sss— it's unwise, which you can clearly see now,- it's unwise, which you can clearly see now, because clearly iisis— clearly see now, because clearly iisis mass— clearly see now, because clearly iisis isas— clearly see now, because clearly this man has now— clearly see now, because clearly this man has now been thrown to the-by— this man has now been thrown to the-by siss— this man has now been thrown to the-by the media. - this man has now been thrown to the by the media. people the wolves by the media. people are the wolves by the media. people digging— the wolves by the media. people are now digging further into issas— are now digging further into that relationship up. and, you know,— that relationship up. and, you know,-interviews- that relationship up. and, you know, interviews where know, from interviews where you're— know, from interviews where ssa-ss-iamsssss- know, from interviews where you're eamonn holmes you're hearing eamonn holmes iaikisss— you're hearing eamonn holmes sawing-sass- you're hearing eamonn holmes talking-can-thisl talking about you can tell this mass-sass— talking about you can tell this mass-saiis a— talking about you can tell this man quite a fragile state of man had quite a fragile state of missi— man had quite a fragile state of mini wish— man had quite a fragile state of mind with this— man had quite a fragile state of mind with this relationship. he mide with this relationship. he

had mind with this relationship. he isasi a— mind with this relationship. he had a relationship with man at had a relationship with a man at the had a relationship with a man at sis-issas— had a relationship with a man at isss-issas was— had a relationship with a man at the that was straight and the time that was straight and inlmarriage- — the time that was straight and inlmarriage. yeah,- the time that was straight and in marriage. “is?" i: the time that was straight and in marriage. / i: sizg in a marriage. yeah, quite very good point. a public figure. good point. and a public figure. totally a well loved public iisass. — totally a well loved public figure- ana— totally a well loved public figure. and he- totally a well loved public figure. a: “as: totally a well loved public figure. "2 “e�*z totally a well loved public figure. "2 f2 totally a well loved public- figure. and he had to be sort of hidden in the background. but he wasn't quite in the background, wasn't quite in the background, was he? no, he was always there. as sass-v— was he? no, he was always there. as ws-vs-iisis— was he? no, he was always there. as we've-this week,- 7 no, he was always there. as we've this week, don and as we've seen this week, don and assassi— as we've seen this week, don and asssswi-sssss— as we've seen this week, don and andrew, seen pictures andrew, we've seen pictures of assis— andrew, we've seen pictures of isas-isas— andrew, we've seen pictures of this-has been- andrew, we've seen pictures of this-has been on- andrew, we've seen pictures of this has been on the andrew, we've seen pictures of. this-has been on the on this man who has been on the on the this man who has been on the on iiss sisais— this man who has been on the on iiss sisais wish— this man who has been on the on the chair with holly— this man who has been on the on the chair with holly and phil, ass— the chair with holly and phil, as-s issa— the chair with holly and phil, as-s isssss ai— the chair with holly and phil, he's been at the— the chair with holly and phil, he's been at the ntas and stage wish— he's been at the ntas and stage wish-issas— he's been at the ntas and stage with -there's been- with them. there's been an assistant a runner, assistant producer, a runner, not demeaning that profession at all shape or form. all in any way, shape or form. but normally the names but it's normally the big names on show. and it's been a on the show. and it's been a was— on the show. and it's been a wassi kept— on the show. and it's been a worst kept secret— on the show. and it's been a worst kept secret in- iii" and it's been a worst kept secret in showbiz tsits“ and it's been a worst kept secret in showbiz as it worst kept secret in showbiz as is isas— worst kept secret in showbiz as is isas issa— worst kept secret in showbiz as is isas issa a— worst kept secret in showbiz as it has been a worst kept it has been a very worst kept ssssi— it has been a very worst kept ssssi iss— it has been a very worst kept secret in showbiz. _ it has been a very worst kept secret in showbiz. you know, secret in showbiz. and you know, sissss-s—niiis- there's reports of the ntas wissss— there's reports of the ntas wisss iss— there's reports of the ntas where he was— there's reports of the ntas where he was declaring his love for where he was declaring his love iss pm,— where he was declaring his love iss an, ass— where he was declaring his love for phil, and that— where he was declaring his love for phil, and that was the end. issas-s— for phil, and that was the end. iisai-s wasn— for phil, and that was the end. that's when he _ for phil, and that was the end. that's when he moved to that's when he got moved on to sssss— that's when he got moved on to issss issssssss — that's when he got moved on to loose women yeah,— that's when he got moved on to loose women “43?" ll loose women yeah, but still, no one about no. he stood one knew about it? no. he stood one knew about it? no. he stood on and declared his love on stage and declared his love and no one knew about it. still right. okay. and other story right. okay. and the other story about one is the fact that about this one is the fact that philip's been dropped as an ambassador prince's ambassador to the prince's trust. you will trust. you know, the prince will asiaaiiy— trust. you know, the prince will asiaaiiy-isisss. — trust. you know, the prince will actually-him. it- trust. you know, the prince will actually - him. it will- you know, the prince will actually him. i a a actually hurt him. it will hurt

him.— actually hurt him. it will hurt aim-siss— actually hurt him. it will hurt him.-the prince's- actually hurt him. it will hurt him.-the prince's trust. actually hurt him. i a a t“ the prince's trust is him. but the prince's trust is all him. but the prince's trust is aii assai— him. but the prince's trust is all about helping— t“ but the prince's trust is all about helping young people assassi— all about helping young people issiwssss—assi- all about helping young people between—and 30| between the ages of 18 and 30 was— between the ages of 18 and 30 was ssms— between the ages of 18 and 30 who come from _ between the ages of 18 and 30 who come from disadvantaged iaskgssassis— who come from disadvantaged backgrounds, who need support wish— backgrounds, who need support with business— backgrounds, who need support with business mentorship. in with business and mentorship. in this situation— with business and mentorship. in this situation ,_ with business and mentorship. in this situation , even though it this situation, even though it waslconsensual_ this situation, even though it was consensual relationship was a consensual relationship wish— was a consensual relationship with—young. was a consensual relationship. wish—ssaag with philip and this young man, he with philip and this young man, is says— with philip and this young man, is says is— with philip and this young man, is says is was— with philip and this young man, he says it was unwise. so why is the he says it was unwise. so why is siss psissss-s— he says it was unwise. so why is the prince's trust— he says it was unwise. so why is the prince's trust then going to put the prince's trust then going to pas-iss— the prince's trust then going to pas-iss isisss - the prince's trust then going to pas-iss isisss as- put their faith in him as an ambassador— put their faith in him as an ambassador for— put their faith in him as an ambassador for to have a good ssssssssiisss— ambassador for to have a good connection with— ambassador for to have a good connection with people? it connection with young people? it aims— connection with young people? it iaissis siss— connection with young people? it taints the charity— connection with young people? it taints the charity and it taints issa— taints the charity and it taints issa iiiiiip— taints the charity and it taints how phillip schofield relationship is with young assass— relationship is with young people- — relationship is with young people- as-s— relationship is with young people. 2 2 people. he's disappeared from pubuc people. he's disappeared from public view in the last few days, last heard of, we think, perhaps in cornwall, where he's from his mother's down from and his mother's down there. his mother, there. i feel for his mother, who's i do her other son has who's 85. i do her other son has been banged up in prison for 12 years for offences and her and her very famous son, the older son, phillip schofield has completely imploded. he's gone from a national treasure to a frankly, a national disgrace . i frankly, a national disgrace. i think that's the bigger picture isss— think that's the bigger picture issss assi— think that's the bigger picture issss and i— think that's the bigger picture here and i think— think that's the bigger picture here and i think that's why we aiways— here and i think that's why we aisyays hays— here and i think that's why we always have to. _ here and i think that's why we always have to. you know, i hate saying— always have to. you know, i hate saying a,— always have to. you know, i hate saying a, isas— always have to. you know, i hate saying a, iai iss— always have to. you know, i hate

saying it, but be kind and think of saying it, but be kind and think an assgis-s— saying it, but be kind and think of people's mental health here isssaass— of people's mental health here because there's— of people's mental health here because there's a— of people's mental health here because there's a wider family nsss— because there's a wider family nsss isysni— because there's a wider family here beyond phillip schofield nag,— here beyond phillip schofield inssst nis— here beyond phillip schofield there, his wife,— here beyond phillip schofield there, his wife, his children, nis— there, his wife, his children, nis mains.— there, his wife, his children, his mother. and— there, his wife, his children, his mother. and they've been asaggsi— his mother. and they've been asaggsa-a— his mother. and they've been dragged a situation dragged into a situation which insy— dragged into a situation which insy niiiingiy— dragged into a situation which they willingly did not put themselves— they willingly did not put themselves in. and it's quite nasa— themselves in. and it's quite hard because— themselves in. and it's quite hard because the media will keep on hard because the media will keep sn gigging— hard because the media will keep an gigging ani— hard because the media will keep on digging and digging and digging.— on digging and digging and digging. there's like there's ainssi— digging. there's like there's almost there's— digging. there's like there's almost there's no boundaries nsss. — almost there's no boundaries nsss. nan-s— almost there's no boundaries here. don't live— almost there's no boundaries here. don't live a- almost there's no boundaries here. jsits“ l l l sit �*" ”iii; here. don't live a lie if you're in the public eye and you're protecting yourself as a happily married family man with children, when you're, in fact, carrying with very young carrying on with the very young junior of staff who's the junior member of staff who's the same sex. yesterday, andrew it's not same sex. yesterday, andrew it's nsi snai— same sex. yesterday, andrew it's nsi ssnai nas— ssitx yesterday, andrew it's not what has happened . it's the not what has happened. it's the ssyssing— not what has happened. it's the ssyssing an.— not what has happened. it's the ssyssing an. is— not what has happened. it's the covering up. it is— not what has happened. it's the covering up. it is because i inink— covering up. it is because i think phillip— covering up. it is because i think phillip schofield when he sai— think phillip schofield when he sas as gay,— think phillip schofield when he came out as gay, he had all the sannsn— came out as gay, he had all the saggsn ns— came out as gay, he had all the saggsn ns iii. — came out as gay, he had all the support he did. it— came out as gay, he had all the support he did. i came out as gay, he had all the support he did. l support he did. it was never about his sexuality. even if he was a straight man, then figuring out he was gay. it wasn't the problem. i don't think that's what society his problem problem problem here, society's problem here being honest here is him not being honest about relationship, about this relationship, which for people have known for many years people have known about it and him just not being honest, him lying to his colleagues, lying to itv bosses.

but now we're having to question whether it was did he lie to itv? did he lie? one very quick question. one very quick question. one very quick question. last night's another bombshell interview between eamonn and zara and our very own dan wootton, the fact that when phillip schofield did come out, there was a sun reporter sitting on set. yes. you know, nssssgagsss— on set. yes. you know, newspapers have- tsits“ “sits you know, newspapers have been sitting on set. yes. you know,- newspapers have been sitting on this newspapers have been sitting on inis sissy— newspapers have been sitting on inis sissy iss— newspapers have been sitting on this story for years. _ newspapers have been sitting on this story for years. and one of ins— this story for years. and one of ins san— this story for years. and one of the sun editors— this story for years. and one of the sun editors has said even insss— the sun editors has said even insss ysass— the sun editors has said even three years ago,— the sun editors has said even three years ago, on the day of iniiin— three years ago, on the day of iniiig ssning— three years ago, on the day of philip coming out, there was a nssiing— philip coming out, there was a meeting between— philip coming out, there was a meeting between sun editors iniiin— meeting between sun editors iniiin ani— meeting between sun editors philip and one— meeting between sun editors philip and one of the senior sssaiss— philip and one of the senior executives at— philip and one of the senior executives at itv. so and that's ins— executives at itv. so and that's ins ining— executives at itv. so and that's the thing we've— executives at itv. so and that's the thing we've been pushing insn — the thing we've been pushing them on. they— the thing we've been pushing them on. “sitg l the thing we've been pushing them on. “sitg witsits“ l the thing we've been pushing them on. “sitg l the thing we've been pushing them on. “sitg sssits“ l them on. they won't say who was at the meeting. it's all unravelling.— at the meeting. it's all unravelling. and- at the meeting. it's all unravelling. and i- “3 it's all unravelling. and i think itv isssss— unravelling. and i think itv bosses are really sweating at ins— bosses are really sweating at is snssnsni— bosses are really sweating at the moment because you can't iasi— the moment because you can't iasi say— the moment because you can't iasi say ysa— the moment because you can't just say you weren't involved ani— just say you weren't involved ans-know- just say you weren't involved and-know when. just say you weren't involved- and-know when there's and you don't know when there's all and you don't know when there's aii-syiisnss— and you don't know when there's all-evidence and— and you don't know when there's all evidence and people and all this evidence and people and iinsssss— all this evidence and people and witnesses, credible— all this evidence and people and witnesses, credible witnesses are witnesses, credible witnesses ss—nass . vsan. i witnesses, credible witnesses- are_now . yeah. well, are coming out now. yeah. well, sisananis.— are coming out now. yeah. well, sasananis. i— are coming out now. yeah. well, stephanie, i think this is one, as we say the trade will run as we say in the trade will run and run. it will. yeah definitely— and run. it will. yeah definitely got- f2 “ it will. yeah definitely got legs. and run. it will. yeah- definitely got legs. absolutely . sa— definitely got legs. absolutely . so stephanie,— definitely got legs. ' lsitlg so stephanie, thanks for . so stephanie, thanks for iaining— . so stephanie, thanks for

joining. thank— so stephanie, thanks for joining. thank you much. joining. thank you so much. inani— joining. thank you so much. thank you. now,— joining. thank you so much. thank you. now, i- joining. thank you so much. thank you. now, i is- joining. thank you so much. now, i is it going to thank you. now, i is it going to sasii— thank you. now, i is it going to sasii ins— thank you. now, i is it going to sasii ins sna— thank you. now, i is it going to spell the end of— now, i is it going to spell the end of humanity as we inan— spell the end of humanity as we knan ii— spell the end of humanity as we know it because— spell the end of humanity as we know it because leading tech gianis— know it because leading tech gianis nays— know it because leading tech giants have have— know it because leading tech giants have have warned that it niiigaiing—ai- giants have have warned that it mitigating—of ai- mitigating the impact of ai snaaia— mitigating the impact of ai snaaia as— mitigating the impact of ai should be a— mitigating the impact of ai should be a quote global asiasiiy— should be a quote global asiasiiy. — should be a quote global asiasiiy. ins— should be a quote global priority . tsits“ should be a quote global- priority . i'm with them on that priority. i'm with them on that slightly at the moment. it comes as the prime minister, rishi sunak, says the uk can play a leadership role in regulating the use ai. our deputy the use of ai. our deputy political editor, he's a bit of a geek on this one. he is tom harwood has more from the founders of google's ai efforts to the creators of chatgpt gpt, some the top minds in the some of the top minds in the tech industry have issued a stark warning. we are working to aaiia— stark warning. we are working to aaiia ssais— stark warning. we are working to build tools that— stark warning. we are working to build tools that one— stark warning. we are working to build tools that one day- “3 we are working to build tools that one day can nsia— build tools that one day can nsia as— build tools that one day can nsia as mass— build tools that one day can help us make new discoveries and aaassss— help us make new discoveries and aaassss ss— help us make new discoveries and aaassss ai— help us make new discoveries and address some of humanity's aiggssi— address some of humanity's biggest challenges, like climate snangs— biggest challenges, like climate change—cancer. - biggest challenges, like climate change cancer. �*fis�*sit change and curing cancer. we shinn— change and curing cancer. we anini anaa— change and curing cancer. we think that regulatory intervention by governments will be critical to mitigate the risks of increasingly powerful models. they risks of increasingly powerful models . they claim that models. they claim that niiigaiing— models. they claim that mitigating the - 2 they claim that mitigating the risk of human sxiinsiian— mitigating the risk of human extinction from _ mitigating the risk of human extinction from al should be a giaaai— extinction from al should be a giaaai asiasiiy— extinction from al should be a giaaai asiasiiy .— extinction from al should be a global priority . i— extinction from al should be a global priority . i know what global priority. i know what yas— global priority. i know what you're thinking— global priority. i know what you're thinking . 32

you're thinking. what a good looking robot . the you're thinking. �*fis�*“f 32 “g the statement looking robot. the statement ssisassa— looking robot. the statement ssisassa ay— looking robot. the statement released by the _ “g the statement released by the centre for al sassy— released by the centre for al saisiy ss— released by the centre for al safety comes amid rising concerns over— safety comes amid rising concerns over the power and aaisniiai— concerns over the power and potential dangers of artificial inisiiigsnss— potential dangers of artificial intelligence ,_ potential dangers of artificial intelligence , as— potential dangers of artificial intelligence , as critics worry intelligence, as critics worry inas— intelligence, as critics worry that without _ intelligence, as critics worry that without proper oversight ana— that without proper oversight and regulation,— that without proper oversight and regulation, these advanced issnnaiagiss— and regulation, these advanced technologies could either be exploited— technologies could either be saaiaiisa ay— technologies could either be exploited by bad actors or veer out exploited by bad actors or veer aai ai— exploited by bad actors or veer out of control— exploited by bad actors or veer out of control .— exploited by bad actors or veer out of control . the— exploited by bad actors or veer out of control . the speed of ai out of control. the speed of ai asysiaansni— out of control. the speed of ai development has— out of control. the speed of ai development has been astonishing. - development has been astonishing. over openai's. development has been astonishing. over openai's . gpt astonishing. over openai's. gpt iaas— astonishing. over openai's. gpt iaas san— astonishing. over openai's. gpt four can now pass— astonishing. over openai's. gpt four can now pass the bar exam . four can now pass the bar exam. an — four can now pass the bar exam. an ins— four can now pass the bar exam. an ins siss— four can now pass the bar exam. an ins sisk ai— four can now pass the bar exam. um the risk of godlike artificial— um the risk of godlike artificial intelligence far cleverer than _ artificial intelligence far cleverer than human beings could isas— cleverer than human beings could isaa ia— cleverer than human beings could isaa ia a— cleverer than human beings could isaa ia a asing— cleverer than human beings could lead to a being that disregards the lead to a being that disregards ins yaias— lead to a being that disregards ins saias ai— lead to a being that disregards the value of human life or is anaiignsa— the value of human life or is unaligned with— the value of human life or is unaligned with human values. it nigni— unaligned with human values. it nigni saana— unaligned with human values. it might sound like— unaligned with human values. it might sound like science iisiiant— might sound like science fiction, but— might sound like science fiction, but tech leaders are nassisa— fiction, but tech leaders are worried when— fiction, but tech leaders are worried when they say agi. �*fis�*“f2 worried when they say agi. what ansy— worried when they say agi. what insy — worried when they say agi. what ansy is— worried when they say agi. what they mean is god— worried when they say agi. what they mean is god like intelligence. they mean. they mean systems that are so vastly beyond human intelligence. they're like gods. they can solve all kinds of science. they can trick humans , they can can trick humans, they can deceive, they can, you know, develop new technologies . they develop new technologies. they could outsmart humans. they could outsmart humans. they could hack into computer

systems. this is the thing that these people truly think is possible and that they are building towards 2% risk of killing literally everybody . no, killing literally everybody. no, i'm not taking that risk. the other form of risk comes- “s: i the other form of risk comes from aanssiai— other form of risk comes from aanssiai ai— other form of risk comes from powerful ai that— other form of risk comes from powerful ai that can create nsaisinss— powerful ai that can create medicines in— powerful ai that can create medicines in seconds , is being medicines in seconds, is being assa— medicines in seconds, is being assa ay— medicines in seconds, is being assa isy isas— medicines in seconds, is being used by bad actors or terrorists to used by bad actors or terrorists ia ssass— used by bad actors or terrorists ia ssass nia— used by bad actors or terrorists to create bio weapons. imagine a syninsiis— to create bio weapons. imagine a synthetic pathogen— to create bio weapons. imagine a synthetic pathogen with the transmissibility of covid, but the morbidity— transmissibility of covid, but the morbidity motty of ebola in ssnass ia— the morbidity motty of ebola in response to these— the morbidity motty of ebola in response to these risks, the g—7 nas— response to these risks, the g—7 has established— response to these risks, the g—7 has established a— response to these risks, the g—7 has established a working group on has established a working group an as— has established a working group an as sain— has established a working group on al, with prime— has established a working group on al, with prime minister rishi sanak— on al, with prime minister rishi sanak waning— on al, with prime minister rishi sunak wanting to— on al, with prime minister rishi sunak wanting to spearhead these siians. — sunak wanting to spearhead these siians. ns-s— sunak wanting to spearhead these efforts. he's calling— sunak wanting to spearhead these efforts. he's calling for the establishment— efforts. he's calling for the establishment of legislative saasa— establishment of legislative saasa sais— establishment of legislative guard rails to— establishment of legislative guard rails to mitigate ai risks . i— guard rails to mitigate ai risks . i sisasiy— guard rails to mitigate ai risks . i clearly can— guard rails to mitigate ai risks . i clearly can bring- guard rails to mitigate ai risks . i clearly can bring massive benefits to the economy and society and you've seen that recently, whereas helping paralysed people to walk, discovering new antibody optics. but we need to make sure that this is done in a way that is safe and is secure. this is not

a aanisan— safe and is secure. this is not a aanisan issas— safe and is secure. this is not a partisan issue .— 2 i this is not a partisan issue . shadow health a partisan issue. shadow health sssssiasy— a partisan issue. shadow health sssssiasy isss— a partisan issue. shadow health secretary wes streeting is singing— secretary wes streeting is singing nan — secretary wes streeting is singing from the same hymn sheet as ins— singing from the same hymn sheet as ins inns— singing from the same hymn sheet as the prime minister. labour nanis— as the prime minister. labour nanis ia— as the prime minister. labour nanis ia sss— as the prime minister. labour wants to see britain playing a isaaing— wants to see britain playing a isaaing sais— wants to see britain playing a leading role on— wants to see britain playing a leading role on the global stage in ssiaiian— leading role on the global stage in relation to— leading role on the global stage in relation to ai— leading role on the global stage in relation to ai development ana— in relation to ai development and regulation.— in relation to ai development and regulation. and that's inai-s— and regulation. and that's snai-s ins— and regulation. and that's that's the role— and regulation. and that's that's the role i think this saanisy— that's the role i think this saanisy san— that's the role i think this country can play with tech isaasss. — country can play with tech leaders. and _ country can play with tech leaders. and now politicians saising— leaders. and now politicians saising ins— leaders. and now politicians raising the alarm . it's clear raising the alarm. it's clear inas— raising the alarm. it's clear inai ins— raising the alarm. it's clear that the race— raising the alarm. it's clear that the race isn't just to said— that the race isn't just to aaiia ins— that the race isn't just to build the most advanced ai , but build the most advanced ai, but to ensure that— build the most advanced ai, but to ensure that its— build the most advanced ai, but to ensure that its rise doesn't asssiaiiais— to ensure that its rise doesn't precipitate our— to ensure that its rise doesn't precipitate our own fall. tom nansaaa— precipitate our own fall. tom nasnaaa .— precipitate our own fall. tom nasnaaa . sn— precipitate our own fall. tom harwood . gb news well, tom harwood. gb news well, tom nasnaaa— harwood. gb news well, tom nasnaaa is— harwood. gb news well, tom nasnaaa is in— harwood. gb news well, tom harwood is in the— harwood. gb news well, tom harwood is in the studio with us as sssis— harwood is in the studio with us as nsii as— harwood is in the studio with us as nsii as ins— harwood is in the studio with us as well as the leader of reform w,— as well as the leader of reform w, isisnasa— as well as the leader of reform uk, richard tice. _ as well as the leader of reform uk, richard tice. “g uk, richard tice. morning to you both. morning. morning the floor is , tom. i don't really is yours, tom. i don't really understand it. it's on for front pages. i called him a geek. i didn't realise he'd be sitting nsai— didn't realise he'd be sitting nsxi ia— didn't realise he'd be sitting nsxi ia ns— didn't realise he'd be sitting next to me. very— didn't realise he'd be sitting next to me. very sorry. geek in ins— next to me. very sorry. geek in ins-gassiais— next to me. very sorry. geek in the-possible way. - next to me. very sorry. geek in the possible way. the nicest possible way. but its— the nicest possible way. but ia-s-saiasn— the nicest possible way. but it's-splash .it's- the nicest possible way. but it's-splash - it's the l it's the splash and it's the main story. and full front pages stay the end of civilisation. as we it. well, here's the we know it. well, here's the ining. — we know it. well, here's the ining. -saasy— we know it. well, here's the thing. -story that- we know it. well, here's the thing. story that frankly thing. this story that frankly geeks have been talking about for the couple years has for the last couple of years has

gone potentially gone mainstream and potentially went mainstream. yesterday afternoon when this statement signed by around 350 tech leaders, was published by the centre for al safety and it's comparing ai development with nuclear war. and i think that that's a potentially quite a useful comparison to make. it's an equivalent technology to splitting the atom, splitting the atom did amazing things for for, the, for the world. we've got the advances of nuclear energy and scientific development, but also it opened up some big dangers for the world nuclear war in the same way artificial intelligence in the way that it is advancing now far faster than anyone in the industry thought it would . i industry thought it would. i think it's worth taking a step back and to say 3 or 4 years ago the people for front of this technology did not believe that it would pass what's known as the turing test, whereby it's indistinguishable if you're having conversation with a having a conversation with a computer, wouldn't be able computer, you wouldn't be able to human or a to tell if it's human or a robot. we're past that

robot. well, we're past that stage indeed, past stage now. indeed, we're past the stage where gpt four, as it's known, can pass bar it's known, can pass the bar exam, can understand and explain why political cartoons are funny. having never seen them before. i mean, we are on a path to ai intelligence that is looking more and more like an exponential, and that is incredible. we're seeing for example, paraplegics who can now walk. thanks to ai technology helping them do so. ai developing new antibiotics. we might be able to well, developing new antibiotics. we might be able to well , that's might be able to well, that's overcome antibiotic resistance. but on the other hand, that's going to say, on the other hand, what north korea or that what if north korea or iran that are trying develop their are trying to develop their nuclear ai develop nuclear weapon use al to develop the nuclear weapon? well, precisely, or maybe more precisely, or maybe even more dangerous precisely, or maybe even more dangsame tech that, for example, the same tech that, for example, might cure a disease, might cure canceh might cure a disease, might cure cancer. could with one cancer. can could with one sentence, one prompt. a terrorist could write in make me a disease that is more transmissible than covid, but more deadly than ebola. right > this is my question, tom. being in — this is my question, tom. being in ssassa— this is my question, tom. being in ssassa ai— this is my question, tom. being i'm scared of a— this is my question, tom. being i'm scared of a mobile phone,

let i'm scared of a mobile phone, is aians— i'm scared of a mobile phone, is aians i.— i'm scared of a mobile phone, is aians .. ny— i'm scared of a mobile phone, let alone i. by the— i'm scared of a mobile phone, let alone i. by the way, george iasi— let alone i. by the way, george iasi ssns— let alone i. by the way, george iasi sssni ain— let alone i. by the way, george just went off. yeah, i know. inank— just went off. yeah, i know. inank yaa. — just went off. yeah, i know. thank you. but— just went off. yeah, i know. thank you. but i. artificial intelligence,— thank you. but i. artificial intelligence, it— thank you. but i. artificial intelligence, it has to be asagsannsa— intelligence, it has to be programmed by a human being . programmed by a human being. no, programmed by a human being. na. na— programmed by a human being. as. anis— programmed by a human being. as. an is— programmed by a human being. no, no, this is the— programmed by a human being. no, no, this is the dangerous thing about it. you're not nsiaing— thing about it. you're not nsiaing anis— “g 2 you're not helping this morning, tom. thing about it. you're not- helping this morning, tom. this is any— helping this morning, tom. this is any is— helping this morning, tom. this is why it's known— helping this morning, tom. this is why it's known as— helping this morning, tom. this is why it's known as black box ai. that means that it's not humans writing these algorithms. it's now algorithms writing these algorithms. robot no robots. no one knows how gpt four works. the openai heads the people at the top of google deepmind, the people at the top of anthropic ai, these three big ai companies , they do not know ai companies, they do not know how their products work. what they did was build bots that have then built this ai and to the human eye it's a scramble of letters. it's a scramble of code. we do not know why it works. this is one of the dangers. this is why these this letter or indeed this sentence has been ascribed to by 350 leaders in this field. and why the g7 just a couple of weeks ago put this high on the agenda?

because ultimately one country regulating this is useless . and regulating this is useless. and if the uk tries to shut this down and china goes hell for leather, we are doomed. yeah, it's like a computer— yeah, it's like a computer developing its it's like a computer developing is an— it's like a computer developing iss mina— it's like a computer developing its own mind and— it's like a computer developing its own mind and no one knows anai— its own mind and no one knows ssnai inas— its own mind and no one knows what that computer is thinking, aaing— what that computer is thinking, aaing as— what that computer is thinking, aaing as saying— what that computer is thinking, doing or saying to itself. ' “2 doing or saying to itself. and it's doing or saying to itself. and its use— doing or saying to itself. and its iiis asi— doing or saying to itself. and it's like all things— doing or saying to itself. and it's like all things tom used the right analogy of nuclear nuclear energy in the right hands with the right regulation. it's a good thing. fantastic yeah. wrong hands. yeah yeah. in the wrong hands. yeah it's utterly lethal and i think this is the same analogy and it requires urgent global regulation with very serious criminal sanctions for those who breach that. but this is the iningt— breach that. but this is the thing, richard.— i but this is the thing, richard. there isn't ssgaiaiian— thing, richard. there isn't regulation, is— thing, richard. there isn't regulation, is there? not yet. we regulation, is there? not yet. as nan-i— regulation, is there? not yet. we don't have— regulation, is there? not yet. we don't have regulation in this saanisy.— we don't have regulation in this saanisy. inis— we don't have regulation in this saanisy. inis is— we don't have regulation in this country. this is what rishi sanak— country. this is what rishi sanak is— country. this is what rishi sunak is talking about, trying to introduce. _ sunak is talking about, trying to introduce. and— sunak is talking about, trying to introduce. ' “2 2“ 2 to introduce. and shouldn't we have bit slow to slow, have a wee bit slow to the slow, slow is to it because it's slow is slow to it because it's developing so quickly. yeah, because-computer.- developing so quickly. yeah, because-computer. it. developing so quickly. yeah,. because-computer. it will because it's a computer. it will ainays— because it's a computer. it will ainays inink— because it's a computer. it will always think and _ because it's a computer. it will always think and develop faster inan— always think and develop faster inan aa—

always think and develop faster than our-minds.- always think and develop faster than our minds. so that's than our human minds. so that's why— than our human minds. so that's why-90t— than our human minds. so that's any-gas ia— than our human minds. so that's any-gas ia as- than our human minds. so that's why got to move urgently. why we've got to move urgently. iss-ys— why we've got to move urgently. visas-sassy— why we've got to move urgently. we've fully globally. we've got to fully globally. i innit— we've got to fully globally. i think,-draconian,- we've got to fully globally. i think, draconian, highly think, quite draconian, highly ssgaiaissi— think, quite draconian, highly. ssgaiaisa.—ins regulated. remember when the inissnsi— regulated. remember when the internet started— regulated. remember when the internet started ,_ regulated. remember when the internet started , none of us had internet started, none of us had nsasa— internet started, none of us had nsasalii.— internet started, none of us had heard-it. none— internet started, none of us had heard-it. none of— internet started, none of us had heard it. none of us heard of it. none of us understood— heard of it. none of us understood but the truth is, understood it. but the truth is, if understood it. but the truth is, i ins— understood it. but the truth is, if the internet— understood it. but the truth is, if the internet started today, we if the internet started today, ns-aiian- if the internet started today, ns-aiian ii- if the internet started today, we - allow it to - if the internet started today,- we-allow it to develop we wouldn't allow it to develop aslasysiaasa. — we wouldn't allow it to develop asldeveloped. but- we wouldn't allow it to develop as developed. 7 as it developed. but what? how do would ensure a system do you would you ensure a system of in rogue states of regulation in rogue states like north korea? how will you ever enforce it? with difficulty in ins— ever enforce it? with difficulty in ins sans— ever enforce it? with difficulty in the same way,— ever enforce it? with difficulty in the same way, for- sit“sits”si.sit 27’ with difficulty in the same way, for example, it nasa— in the same way, for example, it nasa ia— in the same way, for example, it was hard to control— in the same way, for example, it was hard to control iran with win— was hard to control iran with with nuclear— was hard to control iran with with nuclear technology , and with nuclear technology, and inas— with nuclear technology, and inainas— with nuclear technology, and ma nan— with nuclear technology, and that was part of— with nuclear technology, and that was part of the biggest concerns with— that was part of the biggest concerns with great difficulty. nai— concerns with great difficulty. sas insss— concerns with great difficulty. but there has— concerns with great difficulty. but there has-be - concerns with great difficulty. but there has be serious us but there has to be serious us giaaai— but there has to be serious us global criminal— but there has to be serious us global criminal sanctions very, yssy— global criminal sanctions very, yssy gaiskiy— global criminal sanctions very, yssy gaiskiy in— global criminal sanctions very, very quickly in order to stop inis— very quickly in order to stop this, because— very quickly in order to stop this, because in— very quickly in order to stop this, because in the wrong hands , as iam— this, because in the wrong hands , as ian gaiis— this, because in the wrong hands , as tom quite rightly says, inis— , as tom quite rightly says, inis is— , as tom quite rightly says, this is utterly— , as tom quite rightly says, this is utterly lethal. i think gaing— this is utterly lethal. i think gaing ia— this is utterly lethal. i think we're going to see things move yssyt— we're going to see things move yssyt-gaiskiy— we're going to see things move yssyt-gaiskiy in— we're going to see things move very, quickly in the coming very, very quickly in the coming nanins— very, very quickly in the coming nanins nnsn— very, very quickly in the coming months when in— very, very quickly in the coming months when in the dawn of the nassai— months when in the dawn of the nassai ags— months when in the dawn of the nassai ags ,— months when in the dawn of the nuclear age , what— months when in the dawn of the nuclear age , what we was nuclear age, what we saw was knann — nuclear age, what we saw was knann as— nuclear age, what we saw was knann as ins — nuclear age, what we saw was knann as ins i— nuclear age, what we saw was known as the i iaea, the international— known as the i iaea, the international atomic energy agsnsy— international atomic energy agsnsy ,— international atomic energy agency , created as a body of the agency, created as a body of the un agency, created as a body of the sin . — agency, created as a body of the sin . vis— agency, created as a body of the sin . iss nsigna— agency, created as a body of the un. we might see— agency, created as a body of the un . 2 “2 un. we might see something similar come about in the coming months with regard to ai, and i

say the coming months because every 3 or 4 months a new system of ai is coming out that is perhaps twice as powerful as the old system . and know how fast old system. and we know how fast doubung old system. and we know how fast doubling really increases things . if ai is perhaps comparable to human beings, to clever human beings passing the bar exam as things stand, maybe we could sort of roughly say, and of course it's not a perfect analogy, but maybe some ai that exists today has the iq of maybe 130. well, what if next year it has double that and then double that and then double that and we can't even conceive how clever this stuff is. the other scary iningt— this stuff is. the other scary iningt ana— this stuff is. the other scary thing, and there— this stuff is. the other scary thing, and there are- the other scary thing, and there are lots of ssasy— thing, and there are lots of ssasy inings— thing, and there are lots of scary things i'm- thing, and there are lots of scary things i'm finding here is inas— scary things i'm finding here is inai ins— scary things i'm finding here is that the world— scary things i'm finding here is that the world economic forum nasisa— that the world economic forum nasisa-ii— that the world economic forum worried-it could- that the world economic forum worried it could live 83 worried that it could live 83 niiiian— worried that it could live 83 niiiian isas— worried that it could live 83 million jobs, 83— worried that it could live 83 million jobs, 83 million human iaas. — million jobs, 83 million human iaas. sssis.— million jobs, 83 million human jobs. well, we've— million jobs, 83 million human jobs. 2 “ jobs. well, we've already seen it. british telecom, jobs. 2 “ 2 british telecom, haven't we? it. british telecom, haven't we? nsiiisn— it. british telecom, haven't we? british telecom,— 2 british telecom, haven't we? british telecom, 5000 jobs gaing— british telecom, 5000 jobs gaing. — british telecom, 5000 jobs gaing. inai-s— british telecom, 5000 jobs going. that's the- british telecom, 5000 jobs going. 2 going. that's the least of our worries. we heard that in going. 2 we heard that in the worries. we heard that in the issas— worries. we heard that in the issas sain— we heard that in the 1980s with computers replacing iyasnsiisss— 1980s with computers replacing typewriters. forget that . that's typewriters. forget that. that's a nonsense. don't— typewriters. forget that. that's a nonsense. don't worry about inan— a nonsense. don't worry about snag-saws- a nonsense. don't worry about that.-focus on- a nonsense. don't worry about that.-focus on the. that. at all. we focus on the

siss— that. at all. we focus on the sisk ai— that. at all. we focus on the sisk as is— that. at all. we focus on the risk of it developing and assaning— risk of it developing and assaning a— risk of it developing and becoming a lethal force. the isas— becoming a lethal force. the iaas ining— becoming a lethal force. the iaas ining ist— becoming a lethal force. the jobs thing is, is— becoming a lethal force. the jobs thing is, is a complete misnomer. we— jobs thing is, is a complete misnomer. we shouldn't worry aaaai— misnomer. we shouldn't worry aaaai inas— misnomer. we shouldn't worry about that technology. should insss— about that technology. should insss as — about that technology. should there be advance— about that technology. should there be advance different jobs, aiiisssni— there be advance different jobs, different things?— there be advance different jobs, different things? guess what? nssaass— different things? guess what? nssaass asi— different things? guess what? because all of— different things? guess what? because all of a— different things? guess what? because all of a sudden more asaais— because all of a sudden more asaais ass— because all of a sudden more asaais gaing— because all of a sudden more people are going to be involved in asagsanning— people are going to be involved in programming and working with al. in programming and working with as na— in programming and working with as as as— in programming and working with as as as nssa— in programming and working with al. do we need a— in programming and working with al. do we need a government ai. do we need a government ninisiss— ai. do we need a government minister-charge— ai. do we need a government minister charge of this? minister in charge of this? if you— minister in charge of this? if yaa-fina— minister in charge of this? if you .find .that- you can find one that understands- you can find one that understands that's understands it. yeah, but that's iasi— understands it. yeah, but that's iasi-iask— understands it. yeah, but that's iasi-iask nin— understands it. yeah, but that's just luck with that. just good luck with that. insss-s— just good luck with that. mass any— just good luck with that. there's any scientists- just good luck with that. there's any scientists in the cabinet? well, we do. we do. as of the last reshuffle, now- sins “sit27 s2sits s2sits as of the last reshuffle, now have a-asaannsni- of the last reshuffle, now have a - department for- a science department for the fissi— a science department for the iissi-sinss— a science department for the first-since i— a science department for the first since i think the 60s first time since i think the 60s nnsss— first time since i think the 60s nnsss insss— first time since i think the 60s where there chloe— first time since i think the 60s where there chloe smith i think snias— where there chloe smith i think snias sniin— where there chloe smith i think chloe smith is— where there chloe smith i think chloe smith is standing at chloe smith is standing in at the chloe smith is standing in at ins snasnsni— chloe smith is standing in at the moment covering a maternity isas-s— the moment covering a maternity isas-s nai— the moment covering a maternity isas-s sas ysst— the moment covering a maternity leave. but yes, there is now inas— leave. but yes, there is now that science _ leave. but yes, there is now that science department that has iaksn— that science department that has iaisn inis— that science department that has taken bits from _ that science department that has taken bits from the old business asaannsnit— taken bits from the old business department, bits— taken bits from the old business department, bits from the old assis— department, bits from the old dcms because— department, bits from the old dcms because it's sort of signs— dcms because it's sort of aigiiai ana— dcms because it's sort of digital and science all iagsinss.— digital and science all together. so- digital and science all together. so that new department will definitely— together. so that new department will definitely be _ together. so that new department will definitely be looking at it. will definitely be looking at is. again.— will definitely be looking at it. again. this— will definitely be looking at it. again. this isn't something the it. again. this isn't something ins sin— it. again. this isn't something ins gy san— it. again. this isn't something ins gy aa— it. again. this isn't something the uk can do by— it. again. this isn't something the uk can do by itself. we've assn— the uk can do by itself. we've assn nsasing— the uk can do by itself. we've been hearing uk— the uk can do by itself. we've been hearing uk politicians saying— been hearing uk politicians saying as— been hearing uk politicians saying we need— been hearing uk politicians saying we need a cross—party consensus. we need a cross consensus. no, we need a cross saanisy— consensus. n0, we need a cross country consensus. _ country consensus. unfortunately, - country consensus. unfortunately, not a robot,

unfortunately, i'm not a robot, but we have run out of time, not a robot yet. you're not helping ehhen a robot yet. you're not helping either. yeah, and that's the other thing. they'll be ssaiasing— other thing. they'll be replacing us-i- other thing. they'll be. replacing us-i know. replacing us too. i know. ixasiiy— replacing us too. i know. exactly. politicians, exactly. and politicians, isisnasat— exactly. and politicians, richard, no _ exactly. and politicians, richard, no one can replace you issa. — richard, no one can replace you issa. may say— richard, no one can replace you two. .okay. say the- richard, no one can replace you two. say the nicest two. oh, okay. say the nicest inings— two. oh, okay. say the nicest inings-san— two. oh, okay. say the nicest things-can-back.- two. oh, okay. say the nicest. things-can-back. yeah. two. oh, okay. say the nicest- things-can-back. yeah. things you can come back. yeah. na— things you can come back. yeah. salsa-s.— things you can come back. yeah. salsan-i. nss— things you can come back. yeah. no,-can't. are you— things you can come back. yeah. no,-can't. are you scared- no, you can't. are you scared me, right. still to come, itv bosses be questioned bosses are to be questioned on how handle phillip how they handle the phillip schofield we'll have schofield affair. we'll have more on this next. and this is to the point gb news, to the point on gb news, britain's channel. hello britain's news channel. hello there. to latest there. welcome to our latest asaaasasi— there. welcome to our latest broadcast for— there. welcome to our latest broadcast for news. i'm greg broadcast for gb news. i'm greg asnnassi.— broadcast for gb news. i'm greg asnnassi. iss— broadcast for gb news. i'm greg dewhurst. it's looking largely dry dewhurst. it's looking largely any—ins- dewhurst. it's looking largely any—ins nsai- dewhurst. it's looking largely dry _the next few| dry settled over the next few days — dry settled over the next few aays. nisniy— dry settled over the next few aays. nisniy ai— dry settled over the next few days. plenty of sunshine , days. plenty of sunshine, aanisaiasiy— days. plenty of sunshine, particularly in- days. plenty of sunshine, particularly in the west. saaking— particularly in the west. saaking ai— particularly in the west. looking at the bigger picture, nign— looking at the bigger picture, nign assssass— looking at the bigger picture, high pressure sits to the nann—nssi— high pressure sits to the north—west of- high pressure sits to the north—west of the uk, keeping syssyining— north—west of the uk, keeping everything settled, but little everything settled, but a little bit everything settled, but a little iii-kssn— everything settled, but a little bit-keen north _ everything settled, but a little bit keen north easterly bit of a keen north easterly assss— bit of a keen north easterly assss ias— bit of a keen north easterly breeze for some— bit of a keen north easterly breeze for some eastern and saainssn— breeze for some eastern and southern coasts. _ breeze for some eastern and southern coasts. just take the sags — southern coasts. just take the sags isns — southern coasts. just take the edge the temperatures, edge off the temperatures, aanisaiasiy— particularly where it stays a insis— particularly where it stays a little-cloudy— particularly where it stays a little cloudy and quite little bit cloudy and it's quite a—aai— little bit cloudy and it's quite a—aai insss- little bit cloudy and it's quite a_out there this. a cloudy start out there this nasning— a cloudy start out there this nasning ,— a cloudy start out there this morning , particularly across morning, particularly across ssnisai— morning, particularly across ssnisai ana— morning, particularly across central and eastern the central and eastern areas. the assi— central and eastern areas. the isss-sansnins- central and eastern areas. the best sunshine across best of the sunshine across sssni— best of the sunshine across- western_ northern western scotland and northern issiana.—aayl western scotland and northern issiana. —aay ti ireland. but through the day, the ireland. but through the day, ins—ssaniy- ireland. but through the day, the—slowly liftl ireland. but through the day,- the_slowly lift and the cloud should slowly lift and assai. — the cloud should slowly lift and assai. nai— the cloud should slowly lift and break. but-notice- the cloud should slowly lift and break. but notice how it break. but just notice how it sass— break. but just notice how it does-cloudier- break. but just notice how it does cloudier than recent

does stay cloudier than recent days— does stay cloudier than recent says-ssnisai— does stay cloudier than recent days central swathes of days across central swathes of ins— days across central swathes of sins gy— days across central swathes of sins gy .— days across central swathes of sins gy . nasis— days across central swathes of the uk . parts of— days across central swathes of the uk . parts of southern wales, the uk. parts of southern wales, the uk. parts of southern wales, ins iiiaianas— the uk. parts of southern wales, the midlands may— the uk. parts of southern wales, the midlands may stay cloudy all day the midlands may stay cloudy all aay ana— the midlands may stay cloudy all say and nnsss— the midlands may stay cloudy all day and where we— the midlands may stay cloudy all day and where we keep the cloud isnassaiasss— day and where we keep the cloud temperatures really struggling 60 temperatures really struggling so in— temperatures really struggling so in ii— temperatures really struggling 60 in 17 celsius.— temperatures really struggling 60 in 17 celsius. but in the sssi— 60 in 17 celsius. but in the sssi ai— 60 in 17 celsius. but in the sssi as ins— 60 in 17 celsius. but in the rest of the sunshine, the low sss— rest of the sunshine, the low sss assnaas— rest of the sunshine, the low 20s perhaps even around 25 asgssss— 20s perhaps even around 25 degrees across— 20s perhaps even around 25 degrees across western scotland, sansnins— degrees across western scotland, some sunshine breaking out across southern— some sunshine breaking out across southern counties of ingiana— across southern counties of ingiana saa— across southern counties of england too. so— across southern counties of england too. so fine end to the day— england too. so fine end to the say ass— england too. so fine end to the say ins— england too. so fine end to the day across the west eastern saisi— day across the west eastern areas still dry. _ day across the west eastern areas still dry. plenty of nsainss— areas still dry. plenty of weather to _ areas still dry. plenty of weather to enjoy, but it is on ins— weather to enjoy, but it is on the cloudier— weather to enjoy, but it is on the cloudier side.— weather to enjoy, but it is on the cloudier side. and then insaagn— the cloudier side. and then insaagn ins— the cloudier side. and then through the early hours, we'll inas— through the early hours, we'll see that cloud— through the early hours, we'll see that cloud sweep back nssinasas— see that cloud sweep back westwards as— see that cloud sweep back westwards as we move towards nann— westwards as we move towards dawn. temperatures holding up gsnssaiiy— dawn. temperatures holding up gsnssaiiy 9— dawn. temperatures holding up gsnssaiiy a sa— dawn. temperatures holding up generally 9 to 11— dawn. temperatures holding up generally 9 to 11 celsius. some sisasss— generally 9 to 11 celsius. some clearer skies— generally 9 to 11 celsius. some clearer skies across the nann—nssi. — clearer skies across the north—west. but this is where sss-ii— north—west. but this is where sss-ii sss— north—west. but this is where sss-ii ins— north—west. but this is where we'll see the sunniest start to inassaay. — we'll see the sunniest start to thursday. northern ireland, sssni— thursday. northern ireland, western scotland, elsewhere , western scotland, elsewhere, gaiis— western scotland, elsewhere, gaiis a— western scotland, elsewhere, gaiis a gssy— western scotland, elsewhere, quite a grey start. some drizzle in ins— quite a grey start. some drizzle in ins wini— quite a grey start. some drizzle in the wind possible, but insaagn— in the wind possible, but through the— in the wind possible, but through the day the clouds snaaia— through the day the clouds should lift— through the day the clouds should lift and— through the day the clouds should lift and break. hopefully nasn— should lift and break. hopefully aasn a— should lift and break. hopefully aasn a sinis— should lift and break. hopefully push a little bit— should lift and break. hopefully push a little bit further eastwards— push a little bit further eastwards compared to wednesday. so eastwards compared to wednesday. sa saaasniy— eastwards compared to wednesday. sa saaasniy a— eastwards compared to wednesday. so suddenly a skies— eastwards compared to wednesday. so suddenly a skies most likely ssaiss— so suddenly a skies most likely ssaiss nann— so suddenly a skies most likely wales down into— so suddenly a skies most likely wales down into the west country

and inis— wales down into the west country and inis is— wales down into the west country and this is where— wales down into the west country and this is where we'll see the nignssi— and this is where we'll see the highest temperatures getting insa— highest temperatures getting inis-sss— highest temperatures getting into-20s still- highest temperatures getting into 20s still under the into the low 20s still under the siaaat— into the low 20s still under the siaaat ss— into the low 20s still under the cloud, some struggling across sassnis— cloud, some struggling across sassnis saass— cloud, some struggling across eastern coast around 12 or 13 asgssss.— eastern coast around 12 or 13 asgssss. ana— eastern coast around 12 or 13 degrees. and then to end the nsss— degrees. and then to end the nsss ana— degrees. and then to end the week and into— degrees. and then to end the week and into the weekend, aisniy— week and into the weekend, aisniy ai— week and into the weekend, plenty of sunshine to come. in gag,— plenty of sunshine to come. in ga, assnaas— plenty of sunshine to come. in fact, perhaps more sunshine for the fact, perhaps more sunshine for ins-naiasiiy— fact, perhaps more sunshine for ins-naiasiiy ai— fact, perhaps more sunshine for the majority of the uk . and the vast majority of the uk. and isnassaiasss— the vast majority of the uk. and temperatures above average still ssasning— temperatures above average still ssasning ins— temperatures above average still reaching the low— temperatures above average still reaching the low 20s, though assnaas— reaching the low 20s, though assnaas a— reaching the low 20s, though perhaps a little— reaching the low 20s, though perhaps a little chilly at night

way . it's 10 way. it's 10 a.m. on way . it's 10 a.m. on wednesday, way. it's 10 a.m. on wednesday, may— way. it's 10 a.m. on wednesday, may ins— way. it's 10 a.m. on wednesday, iiayins siss- — way. it's 10 a.m. on wednesday, may the 31st. this— way. it's 10 a.m. on wednesday, may the 31st. this is- way. it's 10 a.m. on wednesday, may the 31st. “ may the 31st. this is this is to the point on gb news with andrew pierce and dawn neesom. i called you somebody else. you can call me you somebody else. you can call ns nnaisyss— you somebody else. you can call me whatever you _ you somebody else. you can call me whatever you want.- you somebody else. you can call me whatever you want. i- 2 you can call me whatever you want. i don't ny— me whatever you want. i don't ny ins— me whatever you want. i don't ny is way— me whatever you want. i don't ny is way ,_ me whatever you want. i don't care. by the way , it was very care. by the way, it was very i— care. by the way, it was very i as— care. by the way, it was very nice. i was going- care. by the way, it was very nice. i was going to- care. by the way, it was very nice. gin “s: care. by the way, it was very nice. 2ng “2g nice. i was going to call you itv. itv bosses are set to nice. 2ng “2g « itv bosses are set to face itv. itv bosses are set to face a gsiiiing— itv. itv bosses are set to face a gsiiiing nan — itv. itv bosses are set to face a grilling from mps_ « itv bosses are set to face a grilling from mps over what insy— a grilling from mps over what insy insa— a grilling from mps over what they knew when _ a grilling from mps over what they knew when about phillip ssnaiisia-s— they knew when about phillip schofield's affair with a yaangss— schofield's affair with a younger colleague. eamonn holmes has younger colleague. eamonn holmes nas sais— younger colleague. eamonn holmes nas saia sn— younger colleague. eamonn holmes has told gb news— younger colleague. eamonn holmes has told gb news he— younger colleague. eamonn holmes has told gb news he feels he was assa— has told gb news he feels he was assa in— has told gb news he feels he was assa in a— has told gb news he feels he was used in a cover— has told gb news he feels he was used in a cover up,— has told gb news he feels he was used in a cover up, a— has told gb news he feels he was used in a cover up, a threat to nananiiyt— used in a cover up, a threat to nananiiyt a— used in a cover up, a threat to humanity, a threat— used in a cover up, a threat to humanity, a threat to humanity , humanity, a threat to humanity, sssn— humanity, a threat to humanity, sssn sxassis— humanity, a threat to humanity, tech experts warn. 2 tech experts warn. i asked iniiia— tech experts warn. i asked philip artificial intelligence could bring about the end of the world. scary stuff . tom harwood world. scary stuff. tom harwood is nsss— world. scary stuff. tom harwood is nsss ia— world. scary stuff. tom harwood is here to explain— world. scary stuff. tom harwood is here to explain .— world. scary stuff. tom harwood is here to explain . in— world. scary stuff. tom harwood is here to explain . in an- 2 i tom harwood is here to explain . in an and is here to explain. in an and iinaiiyt— is here to explain. in an and finally, a— is here to explain. in an and finally, a sprinter stewards . a finally, a sprinter stewards. a sprinters— finally, a sprinter stewards. a sprinter, stewards. after just ssaa— sprinter, stewards. after just siaa ais— sprinter, stewards. after just stop all interrupted the rugby on stop all interrupted the rugby an saiasaay.— stop all interrupted the rugby on saturday. the— stop all interrupted the rugby on saturday. the race is on to nignss— on saturday. the race is on to nignss fissi— on saturday. the race is on to higher fleet of— on saturday. the race is on to higher fleet of foot stewards to run higher fleet of foot stewards to asass— higher fleet of foot stewards to as a— higher fleet of foot stewards to run after a protesters for this

nssksna-s— run after a protesters for this weekend's fa— run after a protesters for this weekend's fa cup final. how do insy— weekend's fa cup final. how do insy iss— weekend's fa cup final. how do insy iss insn— weekend's fa cup final. how do they let them ? _ weekend's fa cup final. how do they let them ? s2sits weekend's fa cup final. how do they let them ? 2sis they let them? how do they let them in in the first place . but them in in the first place. but this isn't about what- them in in the first place. but this isn't about what we- “ “ �*7 i but this isn't about what we think. it's this isn't about what we think. its aaaai— this isn't about what we think. it's about what— this isn't about what we think. it's about what you think . so it's about what you think. so let it's about what you think. so is as— it's about what you think. so is as inan— it's about what you think. so let us know your— it's about what you think. so let us know your thoughts on all of let us know your thoughts on all as aa— let us know your thoughts on all as saising— let us know your thoughts on all of our talking points. email us at gbviews@gbnews.uk . but first, at gbviews@gbnews.uk. but first, nssss— at gbviews@gbnews.uk. but first, nssss yaas— at gbviews@gbnews.uk. but first, here's your morning news with isasy— here's your morning news with isasy .— here's your morning news with isasy . inani— here's your morning news with isasy . inann yaa— here's your morning news with rory. thank you very much, dawn iniiia— rory. thank you very much, dawn philip schofield— rory. thank you very much, dawn philip schofield has been axed as an ambassador for the ininss-s— as an ambassador for the prince's trust. - as an ambassador for the prince's trust. si“f 2g as an ambassador for the prince's trust. si“f prince's trust. the charity says it is no longer appropriate to work with him. well, it comes as mps will grill itv in parliament next week over its handling of schofield's affair with a younger male colleague, the broadcaster insists it did investigate rumours at the time, but both parties denied them. but gb news presenter and former this morning host eamonn holmes told dan wootton he feels used

over philip's coming out on the show. it was all a bit weird at that stage though . i believed he that stage though. i believed he was that stage though. i believed he gay— that stage though. i believed he gay ana— that stage though. i believed he was gay and that's— that stage though. i believed he was gay and that's what- 2g 2g i believed he was gay and that's what he was saning— was gay and that's what he was saning aai— was gay and that's what he was saning aas ana— was gay and that's what he was coming out and that was the iniasnaiian— coming out and that was the information we— coming out and that was the information we were given. we sisa— information we were given. we iisa iat— information we were given. we were lied to, and— information we were given. we were lied to, and ruth and i to inis— were lied to, and ruth and i to inis say— were lied to, and ruth and i to inis say as— were lied to, and ruth and i to this day are embarrassed and asnansa— this day are embarrassed and ashamed when— this day are embarrassed and ashamed when we see those aisiasss— ashamed when we see those aisiasss sansn— ashamed when we see those pictures, when we see the iaaiaias— pictures, when we see the tabloids, that— pictures, when we see the tabloids, that some people who are tabloids, that some people who sanassa— tabloids, that some people who are tortured by— tabloids, that some people who are tortured by their sexuality nays — are tortured by their sexuality nays ia — are tortured by their sexuality nays ia ga — are tortured by their sexuality have to go through. and this mans— have to go through. and this man, was this— have to go through. and this man, was this a— have to go through. and this man, was this a cover up for sansining— man, was this a cover up for something else— man, was this a cover up for something else and something siss— something else and something siss nnisn— something else and something else which does— something else and something else which does not reflect well on else which does not reflect well an insnt— else which does not reflect well an insnt os— else which does not reflect well on them, of course,— else which does not reflect well on them, of course, bearing in mina— on them, of course, bearing in mind nis— on them, of course, bearing in mind his brother— on them, of course, bearing in mind his brother is now a sansisisa— mind his brother is now a convicted as— mind his brother is now a convicted as well. so we feel angsy— convicted as well. so we feel angsy .— convicted as well. so we feel angsy . — convicted as well. so we feel angsy . nai— convicted as well. so we feel angry . 2 g angry. rail passengers are facing travel disruption amid strike action, with train companies warning services will be severely reduced . members of be severely reduced. members of the drivers union aslef are striking today and on saturday as well, and rmt union members will walk out on friday. well, aslef general secretary mick whelan accuses the government of not wanting a resolution, but

the government says it has facilitated it a fair and reasonable pay offer . downing reasonable pay offer. downing street is denying claims of a cover up after delaying the release of boris johnson's whatsapp messages to the covid inquiry. the government now has until tomorrow afternoon to hand over the evidence. the cabinet office previously argued the material was irrelevant . but material was irrelevant. but shadow secretary for international trade, nick thomas—symonds says it is in the pubuc thomas—symonds says it is in the public interest to see those messages as baroness hallett. the independent chair has ssaassisa— the independent chair has requested those whatsapps as sns-s— requested those whatsapps as sns-s asisa— requested those whatsapps as she's asked for,— requested those whatsapps as she's asked for, should be asasiasa— she's asked for, should be provided and— she's asked for, should be provided and they should be provideds_ provided and they should be provided, frankly, because as the thousands— provided, frankly, because as the thousands of— provided, frankly, because as the thousands of families out insss— the thousands of families out insss ana— the thousands of families out there who lost— the thousands of families out there who lost loved ones in the aanasnis— there who lost loved ones in the pandemic deserve— there who lost loved ones in the pandemic deserve to have the ssasn— pandemic deserve to have the isain ana— pandemic deserve to have the isain and as— pandemic deserve to have the truth and we need to learn the issss— truth and we need to learn the issss isan — truth and we need to learn the lessons from this— truth and we need to learn the lessons from this health snssgsnsy— lessons from this health emergency for future health ssgsnsiss— emergency for future health emergencies to— emergency for future health emergencies to customers on assaaynsni— emergencies to customers on prepayment metres are being asgsa— prepayment metres are being asgsa ia— prepayment metres are being urged to avoid— prepayment metres are being urged to avoid missing out on

snoo— urged to avoid missing out on isss nann— urged to avoid missing out on £400 worth of— urged to avoid missing out on £400 worth of support with their snssgy— £400 worth of support with their snssgy aiiis. — £400 worth of support with their energy bills. all— £400 worth of support with their energy bills. 2 energy bills. all households were eligible for the government's energy bills support scheme, which was paid in six instalments over the winter. but with £130 million still available to be claimed. house holders are being urged to redeem their vouchers before the deadune redeem their vouchers before the deadline on the 30th of june. farage liz on universal credit are set to get more help with child care costs from the end of june. child care costs from the end of june . the department for work june. the department for work and pensions says those eligible will be able to claim back up to £951 for one child and £1,630 for two or more children. that's a rise of 47% from the previous limits . a conservative think limits. a conservative think tank is suing the us department of homeland security to uncover prince harry's immigration records , following revelations records, following revelations in his book that he took drugs. the heritage foundation wants to see the records to prove if the

admission was doctored , dented admission was doctored, dented in his visa application . the in his visa application. the case will be held in a court in washington, dc, in front of a us federal judge next tuesday , and federal judge next tuesday, and that hearing will be open to the press . some of the biggest names press. some of the biggest names in the development of ai are warning the technology could lead to extinction. the leaders said the risks from al should be treated with the same urgency as pandemics or nuclear war. well, earlier this month, geoffrey hinton, dubbed the godfather of ai, said that in the wrong hands the ai could be used to harm people and spell the end of humanity . longer lorries of up humanity. longer lorries of up to 18m in length are allowed on uk roads from today. that's more than two metres longer than the standard size. the government says the move will reduce the number of journeys saving 70,000 tonnes of carbon dioxide from being released into the air. but critics say the move will

endanger pedestrians and cyclists and could damage roadside infrastructure . and roadside infrastructure. and finally , a cigar smoked by finally, a cigar smoked by churchill during the second world war. it's going up for auction next month. the wartime leader give a half smoked cigar to the consul general in morocco , hugh stonehewer bird. that was between 1943 and 1945. he then preserved his cigar in a jar and treasured it until his death in 1973. that was at the age of 81, when the cigar will go on sale on the 16th of june. the guide price currently sits . at between price currently sits. at between 600 and £900 a this is gb news we'll bring you more as it happens. nato back to andrew and dawn . dawn. good nann- . good morning. sassn.— . good morning. welcome dawn. good morning. welcome back. now itv. itv

. good morning. welcome back. now iiv. iiv assss— . good morning. welcome back. now itv. itv bosses will— . good morning. welcome back. now itv. itv bosses will face— itv. itv bosses will face gassiians— itv. itv bosses will face questions from mps over how much insy— questions from mps over how much insy snss— questions from mps over how much insy knsn ai— questions from mps over how much they knew of phillip— questions from mps over how much they knew of phillip schofield assai— they knew of phillip schofield affair following _ they knew of phillip schofield affair following claims that his iayss— affair following claims that his lover was paid— affair following claims that his lover was paid off by the broadcaster. _ lover was paid off by the broadcaster. “43?" lover was paid off by the broadcaster. / lover was paid off by the- broadcaster. yeah, that's my own newspaper's reporting that the toa before being moved to a different joint programme. i think it might have been , think it might have been, actually, after he moved from a different programme. yes indeed. meanwhile, former itv presenter and meanwhile, former itv presenter ans-ssns— meanwhile, former itv presenter ans-ssns nasi— meanwhile, former itv presenter and news host eamonn holmes and gb news host eamonn holmes says— and gb news host eamonn holmes says ns— and gb news host eamonn holmes says ns ssis— and gb news host eamonn holmes says he felt used— and gb news host eamonn holmes says he felt used and lied to by iniiia— says he felt used and lied to by iniiia . — says he felt used and lied to by iniiia . oas— says he felt used and lied to by philip . our reporter- says he felt used and lied to by philip . 02.” ”iii; 3f 22 philip. our reporter ray addison is outside television centre in london where this morning is broadcast and joins us now. morning there. a lot of speculation the front page of the sun is saying today that holly willoughby will be back on the sofa next monday . yes, the sofa next monday. yes, absolutely. good yes, absolutely. good morning to you aain— absolutely. good morning to you both. according— absolutely. good morning to you both. according to— absolutely. good morning to you both. according to the sun, sources close— both. according to the sun, sources close to— both. according to the sun, sources close to holly iiiiiaagnay- sources close to holly willoughby saying that she's aasaiaisiy— willoughby saying that she's absolutely determined to be insss— absolutely determined to be snsss an— absolutely determined to be there on that— absolutely determined to be there on that sofa on monday nasning. — there on that sofa on monday nasning. sns— there on that sofa on monday morning. she says she feels

snss— morning. she says she feels sns-s sans— morning. she says she feels she's done nothing wrong. she's assassi— she's done nothing wrong. she's assassa ia— she's done nothing wrong. she's devoted to the _ she's done nothing wrong. she's devoted to the show. she's been isa— devoted to the show. she's been iisa ia— devoted to the show. she's been iisa ia ay— devoted to the show. she's been lied to by schofield . and the lied to by schofield. and the source says and— lied to by schofield. and the source says and feels that she nas— source says and feels that she nas nasning— source says and feels that she has nothing to— source says and feels that she has nothing to hide . however, has nothing to hide. however, nasi— has nothing to hide. however, one must question the timing of this one must question the timing of inis assisian— one must question the timing of this decision, whether that's ins— this decision, whether that's ins signi— this decision, whether that's the right time— this decision, whether that's the right time for her to ssasni — the right time for her to return. now,— the right time for her to return. now, obviously, she's going— return. now, obviously, she's gaing ia— return. now, obviously, she's gaing ia nays— return. now, obviously, she's going to have to— return. now, obviously, she's going to have to make some kind of going to have to make some kind as siaisnsni— going to have to make some kind of statement on— going to have to make some kind of statement on monday when snss— of statement on monday when she's-address- of statement on monday when she's-address the- she's there to address the issue. concerns- she's there to address the issue. concerns that we've all isssn — issue. concerns that we've all isssn saising— issue. concerns that we've all been talking about now for so iang— been talking about now for so iang. ana— been talking about now for so iang. and as— been talking about now for so long. and of course, then on the iaiianing— long. and of course, then on the iaiianing say,— long. and of course, then on the following day, the— long. and of course, then on the following day, the next day, on iassaayt— following day, the next day, on tuesday, senior— following day, the next day, on tuesday, senior members of itv nanagsnsni— tuesday, senior members of itv nanagsnsni ass— tuesday, senior members of itv management are going to be gaisssa— management are going to be gaisssa ay— management are going to be quizzed by politicians in that sanniiisst— quizzed by politicians in that committee, that— quizzed by politicians in that committee, that media committee, and insy-ss— committee, that media committee, ana insy-ss gaing— committee, that media committee, and they're going to— committee, that media committee, and they're going to be asking gassiians— and they're going to be asking questions about— and they're going to be asking questions about their handling of-schofield_ questions about their handling of schofield affair , of the schofield affair, insiaaing— of the schofield affair, including presumably those ssaans— including presumably those ssaans inas— including presumably those reports that there was some kind of pay— reports that there was some kind as pay an— reports that there was some kind as pay an ias— reports that there was some kind of pay off for that— reports that there was some kind of pay off for that young for inas— of pay off for that young for an yaang— of pay off for that young for that young man— of pay off for that young for that young man when he was moved to that young man when he was moved ia anainss— that young man when he was moved to another department. and so the to another department. and so ins gassiian— to another department. and so the question has— to another department. and so the question has to be asked, niii— the question has to be asked, niii sns— the question has to be asked, will she have— the question has to be asked, will she have to— the question has to be asked, will she have to make one siaisnsni— will she have to make one statement on— will she have to make one statement on the monday and then assnaas— statement on the monday and then assnaas anainss— statement on the monday and then perhaps another statement iaiianing— perhaps another statement following inquiry and make a following the inquiry and make a

siaisnsni— following the inquiry and make a siaisnsni an— following the inquiry and make a statement on the— following the inquiry and make a statement on the following issanssaay— statement on the following wednesday and does she really wani— wednesday and does she really ssans ia— wednesday and does she really ssans ia gss— wednesday and does she really want to get involved with all of inas— want to get involved with all of inai ai— want to get involved with all of inai as inis— want to get involved with all of that at this stage,— want to get involved with all of that at this stage, or is it assass— that at this stage, or is it better-wait— that at this stage, or is it better-wait it- that at this stage, or is it better wait it out? i've been better to wait it out? i've been sasaking— better to wait it out? i've been sasaking ia— better to wait it out? i've been speaking to people outside isisyisian— speaking to people outside television centre. this is where inis— television centre. this is where inis nasning— television centre. this is where this morning is— television centre. this is where this morning is obviously iiinsa. — this morning is obviously filmed. there's a large number of filmed. there's a large number an asaais— filmed. there's a large number an asaais nsss.— filmed. there's a large number of people here. i— filmed. there's a large number of people here. i asked them , of people here. i asked them, snaaia— of people here. i asked them, snaaia naiiy— of people here. i asked them, should holly wait until a full ingaisy— should holly wait until a full ingaisy nas— should holly wait until a full inquiry has been— should holly wait until a full inquiry has been carried out? i , ii— inquiry has been carried out? i , ii ns-s— inquiry has been carried out? i mean , if he's having to leave, mean, if he's having to leave, insn— mean, if he's having to leave, insn insss— mean, if he's having to leave, then there should— mean, if he's having to leave, then there should be investigation towards more asaais— investigation towards more asaais in— investigation towards more people in positions like that at the people in positions like that at ins sna— people in positions like that at ins sna ai— people in positions like that at the end of the— people in positions like that at the end of the day, shouldn't insys — the end of the day, shouldn't insys i— the end of the day, shouldn't insys i nan-i— the end of the day, shouldn't they? i don't think- the end of the day, shouldn't they? 2“ 2 “

whatever, but as a friend, as a isisnasniat— whatever, but as a friend, as a friendships yaa— whatever, but as a friend, as a friendship, you would you naaian-i— friendship, you would you wouldn't really share that information— wouldn't really share that information anybody you information with anybody. you naaia— information with anybody. you naaia-ia— information with anybody. you would to yourself. would keep that to yourself. if yas— would keep that to yourself. if yaa-ss-isisna. - would keep that to yourself. if you're-friend. and- would keep that to yourself. if you're friend. and she you're a loyal friend. and she asaaaaiy— you're a loyal friend. and she asaaaaiy-nnai— you're a loyal friend. and she probably what thought probably did what she thought inas— probably did what she thought inai sns— probably did what she thought that she-doing. - probably did what she thought that she doing. thought that she was doing. she thought she that she was doing. she thought sns—ins- that she was doing. she thoughti sns—ins signs she was probably doing the right ining. — she was probably doing the right thing. .protecting_ she was probably doing the right thing. protecting her thing. and protecting her isisnasnia— thing. and protecting her friendship and it's philip's nsss-ns— friendship and it's philip's mess. his drama. it's his mess. it's his drama. it's his baggage— mess. it's his drama. it's his aaggags .— mess. it's his drama. it's his aaggags . ii-s— mess. it's his drama. it's his baggage . it's not- mess. it's his drama. it's his baggage . it's not holly's. baggage. it's not holly's. sssis.— baggage. it's not holly's. visii. ai— baggage. it's not holly's. well, of course,- baggage. it's not holly's. well, of course, as- baggage. it's not holly's. well, of course, as you can hear there, a diverse range of opinion from viewers of this morning out side television centre today . they're saying, of centre today. they're saying, of course, that the longer she's connected with the with the show, the harder it will be for her to extricate herself from any subsequent issues that arise as part of any future investigation. it remains to be seen whether she really will be on that this morning sofa on monday morning . brilliant right. monday morning. brilliant right. thank you very much for that. inai-s— thank you very much for that. inai-s iiys— thank you very much for that. that's live from _ thank you very much for that. that's live from television ssniss. — that's live from television centre. it's— that's live from television centre. it's a— that's live from television centre. it's a it's- that's live from television centre. 2 2 centre. it's a it's a story that just won't go away. and in politics, alastair campbell, who used to be tony blair's pugnacious but aggressive

rottweiler in charge of communications , said if a story communications, said if a story if a minister was on the front page 6 or 7 days, that go because and this has been a front page story now for ten days, ten days at least, isn't it now? yeah, no, absolutely. ana— it now? yeah, no, absolutely. ana is— it now? yeah, no, absolutely. and it's dominating all the broadcast channels and schofield's gone to ground. and this big questions are being asked now in in parliament, basically. yeah. that's what gai— basically. yeah. that's what gas a— sif2 yeah. that's what we've got a parliamentary sasnsnissian— we've got a parliamentary commission actually asking gassiians— commission actually asking questions about who knew what nnsn. — questions about who knew what nnsn. ssan— questions about who knew what nnsn. vsan. i— questions about who knew what when. yeah. i mean- questions about who knew what when. “411?“ “ ”iii; questions about who knew what when. / ”iii: 2“sitisit when. yeah. i mean they're there to about the broadcasting to talk about the broadcasting and legislation but, but to talk about the broadcasting andtiming legislation but, but to talk about the broadcasting andtiming .egislation but, but to talk about the broadcasting andtiming . yeah.tion but, but to talk about the broadcasting andtiming . yeah. and but, but to talk about the broadcasting andtiming . yeah. and mps3ut to talk about the broadcasting andtiming . yeah. and mps on the timing. yeah. and mps on that committee have said they will ask them about it and the bosses will have to answer because the problem with this story, i know people sort of like thing with this like the weird thing with this story people go, not story is people go, oh god, not schofield again . but in the very schofield again. but in the very nsai— schofield again. but in the very nsxi assain — schofield again. but in the very next breath they— schofield again. but in the very next breath they go,— i sits2 s2gf “ but in the very next breath they go, what's happening?— next breath they go, what's happening? the gossip? happening? what's the gossip? and happening? what's the gossip? ana sa— happening? what's the gossip? ana sa-a— happening? what's the gossip? and so-a weird— happening? what's the gossip? and so a weird thing. and and so it's a weird thing. and inis— and so it's a weird thing. and inis iasi— and so it's a weird thing. and inis iasi inis— and so it's a weird thing. and this just this isn't— and so it's a weird thing. and this just this isn't about one snan— this just this isn't about one snass ana— this just this isn't about one show and one— this just this isn't about one show and one person on this is aaaai— show and one person on this is aaaai ins— show and one person on this is aaaai ins nay— show and one person on this is about the way tv—

show and one person on this is about the way tv all television aassaiss— about the way tv all television aassaiss ,— about the way tv all television aassaiss , isn-i— about the way tv all television operates , isn't it?— about the way tv all television operates , isn't it? the taking operates, isn't it? the taking asaais— operates, isn't it? the taking asaais asnina— operates, isn't it? the taking people behind the screen, isn't it? people behind the screen, isn't iss — people behind the screen, isn't iss ana— people behind the screen, isn't is and assass— people behind the screen, isn't it? and people are- people behind the screen, isn't it? and people are often fascinated what goes on behind the scenes that the hierarchy and the duty of care tv has as well? well, all the people that nass— well? well, all the people that ssass insss— well? well, all the people that work there well,— well? well, all the people that work there well, all— 7 well, all the people that work there well, all employers nays — work there well, all employers nays a— work there well, all employers nays a say— work there well, all employers nays a day as— work there well, all employers have a duty of care, especially to have a duty of care, especially is yaangss— have a duty of care, especially to younger employers. but inissssiing. — to younger employers. but interesting, very _ to younger employers. but interesting, very interesting comments there. i thought from ai— comments there. i thought from as ins — comments there. i thought from some of the people— comments there. i thought from some of the people i— i i thought from some of the people i spoke to, ssassiaiiy— some of the people i spoke to, especially that— some of the people i spoke to, especially that lady at the end syna— especially that lady at the end nna ssas— especially that lady at the end nna saying— especially that lady at the end who was saying sort of like, i siss— who was saying sort of like, i iiks naiiy— who was saying sort of like, i like holly and— who was saying sort of like, i like holly and i— who was saying sort of like, i like holly and i like and like holly and i like phil and aan-i— like holly and i like phil and aan-i ssaiiy— like holly and i like phil and don't really-any- like holly and i like phil and don't really any problem don't really see any problem niin— don't really see any problem sasn-isss— don't really see any problem with-let's talk- don't really see any problem with let's talk more with it. so let's talk more aaaai—niini about this, shall we, with snanais— about this, shall we, with showbiz journalist rebecca inansy— showbiz journalist rebecca twomey rebecca. showbiz journalist rebecca- twomey - rebecca. thank twomey. hello, rebecca. thank you— twomey. hello, rebecca. thank yaaliaining— twomey. hello, rebecca. thank yaaliaining as— twomey. hello, rebecca. thank you joining us this morning. you for joining us this morning. isigni. — you for joining us this morning. isigni. -sa— you for joining us this morning. signs-sa ns— you for joining us this morning. right.-so we had- you for joining us this morning. right. so we had a lot of right. okay. so we had a lot of asysiaansnis— right. okay. so we had a lot of developments overnight. oayiaasiyt— developments overnight. obviously, eamonn's obviously, we had eamonn's inisssisn— obviously, we had eamonn's interview with— obviously, we had eamonn's interview with dan wootton on on this interview with dan wootton on on inis snannsi. — interview with dan wootton on on this channel. we've— interview with dan wootton on on this channel. we've had the isinss-s— this channel. we've had the prince's trust— this channel. we've had the prince's trust dropping phillip ssnaiisia— prince's trust dropping phillip schofield and— prince's trust dropping phillip schofield and now we have our gassiian— schofield and now we have our gassiian asing— schofield and now we have our question being asked by the nsaia— question being asked by the media commission literally in iasiiansni. — media commission literally in parliament. what do we make of nnai-s— parliament. what do we make of was naaasnsa— parliament. what do we make of what's happened overnight ? what's happened overnight? i can-i— what's happened overnight? i can't actually— what's happened overnight? i can't actually believe- what's happened overnight? i can't actually believe how much momentum this story has got and

it just goes to show how much we invest in philip and holly and what made us brazier and what you just said, how everyone loves good gossip. loves a good gossip. but actually, a actually, it's not just a gossip, is it? it's much more serious that. all serious than that. there's all kinds flying kinds of accusations flying around, much more is around, and i think much more is going be exposed day by day. going to be exposed day by day. and really, what first of all, emerged as what is a toxic workplace? bullying workplace? was there bullying going to going on? and now there seems to be lot more accusations of be a lot more accusations of something much more sinister going and it's really going on. and now it's really a witch hunt or who knew what how much they know and what much did they know and what actions they take, any, actions did they take, if any, to this? and, you know, actions did they take, if any, to brilliant�* and, you know, actions did they take, if any, to brilliant now, you know, actions did they take, if any, to brilliant now that know, actions did they take, if any, to brilliant now that eamonn it's brilliant now that eamonn can speak he can talk can speak out and he can talk about his experiences and, you know, he free and what's know, he feels free and what's hopefully to is hopefully going to happen is that the that other people will get the confidence, to confidence, you know, to actually share stories and actually share their stories and their experience and like you say, care and not just their experience and like you sa'the care and not just their experience and like you sa'the tv care and not just their experience and like you sa'the tv world, re and not just their experience and like you sa'the tv world, which not just their experience and like you sa'the tv world, which seems,t in the tv world, which seems, you know, for a lot of people, it's very glamorous, very fun industry in it actually. industry to work in it actually. hopefully will other hopefully will extend to other workplaces the workplaces because like with the metoo movement, know, these metoo movement, you know, these are people in are very privileged people in very exposing, are very privileged people in very know, exposing, are very privileged people in very know, manipulating sing, are very privileged people in veryknow, manipulating their you know, manipulating their power, actually on a much

power, but actually on a much sort of lower level, this kind power, but actually on a much so behaviour level, this kind power, but actually on a much so behaviour levelhappenid lots of behaviour must happen in lots of behaviour must happen in lots of industries and people who don't have confidence, don't have the confidence, maybe people we people on very low income, we can't speak up. so can't afford to speak up. so really if we're trying see really if we're trying to see maybe perhaps of the maybe perhaps some of the positives of this sort of awful story is that perhaps it will make some big changes for other industries and other workers and other are vulnerable other people who are vulnerable at rebecca when we keep at work. rebecca when we keep seeing scenes philip seeing these scenes of philip coming on, on, on tv, it's coming out on, on, on tv, it's been reported sun that been reported in the sun that morning that he was going to come actually on come out the summer actually on the he came out and he the set when he came out and he sort falls in tears into the sort of falls in tears into the arms of a devoted co star. holly willoughby. what now holly willoughby. what it now seems everybody at itv, seems is that everybody at itv, knann— seems is that everybody at itv, knann ias— seems is that everybody at itv, known for years— seems is that everybody at itv, known for years he _ seems is that everybody at itv, known for years he gay and known for years he was gay and nasi— known for years he was gay and nan—ns- known for years he was gay andi naa—ns had known for years that he was nasing— had known for years that he was nasing-nan— had known for years that he was having now describes as having what he now describes as ninssii— having what he now describes as ninssii as— having what he now describes as ninssii as an— having what he now describes as himself as an inappropriate relationship.— himself as an inappropriate relationship. so— himself as an inappropriate relationship. so taking relationship. so it's taking the viewers advertisers for viewers and the advertisers for mags— viewers and the advertisers for nags .— viewers and the advertisers for nags . iss— viewers and the advertisers for mugs . it's really— viewers and the advertisers for mugs . it's really sad because it mugs. it's really sad because it iasi— mugs. it's really sad because it iasi aasisaiiy— mugs. it's really sad because it just basically reeks of insincerity_ just basically reeks of insincerity . - just basically reeks of insincerity . ' “2 just basically reeks of insincerity. "2 just basically reeks of- insincerity . and i think the just basically reeks of- insincerity. and i think the big thing with with this morning and that show is that people bought into the characters of holly and phil as these very sincere, very sympathetic, empathetic

characters people connected characters that people connected with the sofa and, you know, with on the sofa and, you know, when there are difficult topics to discuss, they were really sort of showing and sort of showing empathy. and i think upsetting think what's really upsetting people therefore people and therefore advertisers as wasn't as well, is that it wasn't sincere, wasn't genuine. and sincere, it wasn't genuine. and something very dark appears to have been going on behind the scenes. i think that's the scenes. and i think that's the big now, viewers big problem. now, when viewers lose connectivity with lose that connectivity with their like their celebrities, because like with celebrities, we to with all celebrities, we like to have as, know, have them, as, you know, completely completely completely perfect or completely terrible. and terrible. we're very black and white and celebrities. and holly and were always these sort and phil were always these sort of dad type of perfect mum and dad type figures we didn't figures that we really didn't want any wrong. and want to have any wrong. and now we've murkiness. it's, we've got this murkiness. it's, you parents you know, our parents have really done and people really done us wrong and people are up in arms about it because we trusted them. and i think it's an abuse of, of trust, of the viewership and of the public. that's right, public. that's right. all right, issasssat— public. that's right. all right, issasssat-a— public. that's right. all right, rebecca,-a great- st. that's right. all right, rebecca, a great line, rebecca, it's not a great line, issasssat— rebecca, it's not a great line, issasssat aai— rebecca, it's not a great line, rebecca, but thanks for joining us. rebecca, but thanks for joining as—ns- rebecca, but thanks for joining as—ns i rebecca, but thanks for joining. as—ns vsan. us. that's rebecca to me. yeah, aasaiaisiy. — us. that's rebecca to me. yeah, aasaiaisiy. ns— us. that's rebecca to me. yeah, absolutely. as i— us. that's rebecca to me. yeah, absolutely. as i said, it's i hope rebecca's right. i hope the one comes away one positive that comes away from is that people from this story is that people in workplaces now more in all workplaces now feel more confident about talking about where they what's on, where they are, what's going on, and right and any bullying culture right

now. anybody now. i don't know why anybody thinks big deal about thinks it's a big deal about coming out as gay. i mean, i came out coming out as gay. i mean, i aas so— coming out as gay. i mean, i came out 40 years- coming out as gay. i mean, i came out 40 years ago.- sisisi“ “2g 2ng i mean, i came out 40 years ago. i know, isas— came out 40 years ago. i know, aas ii— came out 40 years ago. i know, aas is asna— came out 40 years ago. i know, but it wasn't easy— came out 40 years ago. i know, but it wasn't easy for me. no, it but it wasn't easy for me. no, is asni — but it wasn't easy for me. no, is asni nai— but it wasn't easy for me. no, it wasn't. but that— but it wasn't easy for me. no, it wasn't. but that was 40 years aga. — it wasn't. but that was 40 years aga. iinss— it wasn't. but that was 40 years aga. iinss nsss— it wasn't. but that was 40 years ago. times were different then, ana— ago. times were different then, ans-insa— ago. times were different then, and-lived through- ago. times were different then, and lived through the and then we lived through the isssiais— and then we lived through the terrible-problem.- terrible aids problem. um, and the terrible aids problem. um, and ins-nsss— terrible aids problem. um, and the-were-more- terrible aids problem. um, and. the-were-more hostile the media were much more hostile to the media were much more hostile ia-iiks— the media were much more hostile ia-iiks sns— the media were much more hostile ia-iiks nast— the media were much more hostile to-like me. but,-of- to people like me. but, but of course, phillip— to people like me. but, but of course, phillip schofield chose to course, phillip schofield chose ia gss— course, phillip schofield chose ia gsi-ana— course, phillip schofield chose to get-and have- to get married and have sniiassn.— to get married and have children-that- to get married and have children. that was children. yeah, that was his snaisst— children. yeah, that was his snaisst-is— children. yeah, that was his choice,-is fine,- choice, which is fine, absolutely. - choice, which is fine, absolutely. did you feel absolutely. but how did you feel with very dramatic way that with the very dramatic way that philip chose to do it at the age that he did it and sort of like, you know, hugs on sofa? you know, the hugs on the sofa? well, you as a gay man well, how did you as a gay man feel about that? andrew i found it feel about that? andrew i found is sainss— feel about that? andrew i found it rather excruciating.— �*"sitsit2 2“f27 andrew i found it rather excruciating. yeah. ana— it rather excruciating. yeah. and as— it rather excruciating. yeah. and of course,— it rather excruciating. yeah. and of course, i'd known for ysass— and of course, i'd known for ysass aaaai— and of course, i'd known for years about philip's relationship runner. relationship with the runner. ssan. —an- relationship with the runner.i ssan—an aasn relationship with the runner. . yeah._an open it yeah. because it was an open it was an open secret,— yeah. because it was an open it was an open secret, as everybody hadi_ was an open secret, as everybody nag—ins— was an open secret, as everybody nag—ins asaais- was an open secret, as everybody had, the people that was an open secret, as everybody had, with the people that was an open secret, as everybody had, with him. :he people that was an open secret, as everybody had, with him. i e that was an open secret, as everybody had, with him. i at work with him. because you wouldn't notice. would, you know, notice at all. know, wouldn't notice at all. right, move on. minister right, now we move on. minister gays accusations of gays are facing accusations of a cover after it refused to cover up after it refused to hand over boris johnson's whatsapp to whatsapp messages and diaries to the inquiry. now, this the pandemic inquiry. now, this is a complete -because| is a complete horlicks because insss— is a complete horlicks because snsss nas— is a complete horlicks because snsss a— is a complete horlicks because snsss a s— is a complete horlicks because there was a 4 p.m._ is a complete horlicks because there was a 4 pm. deadline

yssissaay— there was a 4 pm. deadline yesterday when— there was a 4 pm. deadline yesterday when they had to give asss—saay- over these papers to lady naiisiit— over these papers to lady hallett,-doing- over these papers to lady hallett, doing the hallett, who's doing the aanasnis— hallett, who's doing the pandemic inquiry. they've pandemic inquiry. but they've nan—inassaayi pandemic inquiry. but they've. now—thursday. but now extended it to thursday. but but now extended it to thursday. but aas ins— now extended it to thursday. but but the cabinet— now extended it to thursday. but but the cabinet office is saying insy— but the cabinet office is saying insy aan-i— but the cabinet office is saying they don't have— but the cabinet office is saying they don't have all boris iannsan-s— they don't have all boris johnson's whatsapp messages and aiasiss— johnson's whatsapp messages and aiasiss anyway— johnson's whatsapp messages and aiasiss anyway .— johnson's whatsapp messages and diaries anyway . okay. right. diaries anyway. okay. right. so ansy-ws— diaries anyway. okay. right. so ansy-ys gas— diaries anyway. okay. right. so ansy-ys gaa ans— diaries anyway. okay. right. s2gsits2 tsi“ till they've got the extension. till when? now. till till thursday for o'clock henry hill's here. deputy editor of conservative home. henry, can you work this one out? what's going on henry? it one out? what's going on henry? ii asss— one out? what's going on henry? ii aass sssn— one out? what's going on henry? ii aass ia— one out? what's going on henry? it does seem to be— one out? what's going on henry? it does seem to be very strange because the cabinet office was saying, well, load of this saying, well, a load of this information possibly information isn't possibly relevant to the inquiry. and then baroness hallett said, well, decide. well, that's for me to decide. and cabinet office came and then the cabinet office came back and said, actually, we don't have it. we don't have it. so how can they have come to the sansasiani— so how can they have come to the conclusion that— so how can they have come to the conclusion that information conclusion that the information naiisii— conclusion that the information hallett- irrelevant i conclusion that the information hallett irrelevant if hallett seeking is irrelevant if insy—iis- hallett seeking is irrelevant if insy—iis - hallett seeking is irrelevant if insy—iis inail hallett seeking is irrelevant ifj they—it? that is they haven't seen it? that is ai— they haven't seen it? that is ai iiis-s— they haven't seen it? that is one of life's great mysteries. we don't know. it doesn't really make i was make much sense. and i was iaaking— make much sense. and i was iaakinglins— make much sense. and i was looking-the and— make much sense. and i was looking-the and she- make much sense. and i was looking-the and she is- looking at the and she is sniiiisa— looking at the and she is entitled -this- looking at the and she is entitled this because entitled to ask this because i inink— entitled to ask this because i inns-ins— entitled to ask this because i think-the 2005- entitled to ask this because i think the 2005 public think it's the 2005 public ingaisiss— think it's the 2005 public inquiries act— think it's the 2005 public inquiries act allows whoever snaiss—ial chairs the public inquiry to sanasi— chairs the public inquiry to compel witnesses to provide what iniasnaiian— compel witnesses to provide what information she— compel witnesses to provide what information she wants. yeah, asssissiy— information she wants. yeah,

asssissiy. — information she wants. yeah, asssissiy. ana— information she wants. yeah, precisely. and the- information she wants. yeah, precisely. "2 2g precisely. and the government also drew up. you know, we need to remember boris johnson's government set up this particular inquiry and the government setting up the inquiry the terms of inquiry sets the terms of reference . and so the reference. and so if the government was genuinely worried about much sensitive material about so much sensitive material , frankly, the people , frankly, given that the people involved are the very people being subpoenaed now , they being subpoenaed now, they should have taken more care when setting it up draw what the setting it up to draw what the lines . and this this could lines were. and this this could sna— lines were. and this this could snalwiin— lines were. and this this could snalwiin saay— 2 sssitisit and this this could end with lady hallett 2 sss'siisit and this this could end with lady hallett very end up with lady hallett very distinguished— end up with lady hallett very distinguished former judge being sassn— distinguished former judge being sassn ia— distinguished former judge being sassn ia saan— distinguished former judge being taken to court by— distinguished former judge being taken to court by the cabinet sssiss— taken to court by the cabinet oniiss ia— taken to court by the cabinet office to prevent— taken to court by the cabinet office to prevent her getting the office to prevent her getting ins aaasss— office to prevent her getting the papers that— office to prevent her getting the papers that the act of parliament— the papers that the act of parliament says she's entitled to parliament says she's entitled ia nays— parliament says she's entitled to have potentially the government,- to have potentially the government, the government's is nai— government, the government's case is not non—existent. i shinn— case is not non—existent. i inink ias— case is not non—existent. i think it's important to say, sir james eadie, the treasury devil, who's of government's who's one of the government's most lawyers, he his most senior lawyers, he his argument is that because these whatsapp basically the whatsapp groups basically the what is asking for what the inquiry is asking for is all of boris johnson's whatsapp messages with 40 relevant figures. and relevant government figures. and that amount of that includes a huge amount of political discussion . and sir political discussion. and so sir james argument is that james eady's argument is that this would breach cabinet collective responsibility, which

is right for is a constitutional right for ministers of the government to debate in private. now debate policy in private. now it's not clear, given how much british constitution is based on convention, what the legal basis for blocking publication of those. that's that's his he's a much better lawyer than i am. but but that's his opinion. and lady hallett will have- but but that's his opinion. and lady hallett will have her- lady hallett will have her own aainian. —ana- lady hallett will have her own. opinion. _and that's opinion. absolutely. and that's precisely it ends up in precisely why, if it ends up in court, opinions will court, those two opinions will be tested in quite a dramatic fashion. but it makes the tory gayssnnsni— fashion. but it makes the tory government look— tsi“ but it makes the tory government look like sit“ but it makes the tory government look like they're isying— government look like they're trying something up and trying to cover something up and snai-s—wiii- that's what people will say. saass— that's what people will say. sawss—insyl that's what people will say.- cover_they hiding? cover up. what are they hiding? it's cover up. what are they hiding? ii-s-aaiiiisai— cover up. what are they hiding? it's political version it's the political version of inis— it's the political version of this morning. _ it's the political version of this morning. i/sitf t“ it's the political version of this morning. / / this morning. yeah. yeah absolutely. mean, so i torn on absolutely. i mean, so i torn on two on because. yes, two ways on this because. yes, politically, it's absolutely not two ways on this because. yes, pigoodilly, it's absolutely not two ways on this because. yes, pagood look,'s absolutely not two ways on this because. yes, pagood look, toabsolutely not two ways on this because. yes, pagood look, toabso ately not two ways on this because. yes, pagood look, toabso a phrase. a good look, to use a phrase. i really hate for the government to be seen to resisting an to be seen to be resisting an inquiry it's up. the inquiry that it's set up. on the other hand, always very other hand, it's always very easy for people in any particular example oh, particular example say, oh, well, of well, you know, the needs of this mean that we need 100% this case mean that we need 100% transparency. actually transparency. but actually government private transparency. but actually goverr in ent private transparency. but actually goverrin which private transparency. but actually goverrin which to private transparency. but actually goverrin which to make)rivate transparency. but actually goverrin which to make decisions space in which to make decisions and and there is and debate policy. and there is always a tension between transparency and freedom of information, open information, security and that privacy. and

so we shouldn't we should be careful before arguing that the needs of this particular case mean that those concerns should simply because simply be set aside, because everybody case always everybody in every case always thinks and boris is saying thinks that. and boris is saying to cabinet office, well , to the cabinet office, well, give you want. he's give them what you want. he's already provide s2g he's already provide thousands of aissss— already provide thousands of aisssslaaass— already provide thousands of pieces paper already. 2 pieces of paper already. it's nai— pieces of paper already. it's nai nasis— pieces of paper already. it's not boris that's— pieces of paper already. it's not boris that's blocking this, pieces of paper already. it's ncitboris that's blocking this, pieces of paper already. 2 2 this 22 “2g pieces of paper already. 2 2 this is “2g pieces of paper already. 2 2 this is the is it cabinet. this is the wsisassi— is it cabinet. this is the weirdest thing- 2 this is the weirdest thing about this story. nssaass— weirdest thing about this story. because when— weirdest thing about this story. because when boris, when rishi sanas— because when boris, when rishi sanak—asiasiiy- because when boris, when rishi sunak—priority was| sunak came in, his priority was asawing— sunak came in, his priority was asawing a— sunak came in, his priority was drawing a really— sunak came in, his priority was drawing a really bright and snining— drawing a really bright and shining between his shining line between his gayssnnsni— shining line between his government more government and slightly more ssanaai— government and slightly more scandal dogged— government and slightly more scandal dogged one that his asssssssasa— predecessor, slightly more, siigniiy—assni slightly slightly. i've been assassi— slightly slightly. i've been accused . being - slightly slightly. i've been accused being anti boris accused of being too anti boris iannsan— accused of being too anti boris iannsanli-n— accused of being too anti boris johnson, i'm trying row johnson, so i'm trying to row inas— johnson, so i'm trying to row inn-ssan— johnson, so i'm trying to row that-yeah.-so- johnson, so i'm trying to row that-yeah.-so he's| that back. yeah. and so he's aiways— that back. yeah. and so he's aiways-isi-s- that back. yeah. and so he's always-let's not- that back. yeah. and so he's always let's not get always been, let's not get inwaiwssi— always been, let's not get involved. you're - always been, let's not get involved. you're not to involved. you're not going to aai— involved. you're not going to aaii aai— involved. you're not going to bail out-truss— involved. you're not going to bail out truss and all the bail out liz truss and all the sssi— bail out liz truss and all the sssi ai— bail out liz truss and all the sssi as is.— bail out liz truss and all the rest of it. and— bail out liz truss and all the rest of it. and now we're in a aasiiian— rest of it. and now we're in a position where— rest of it. and now we're in a position where boris johnson is saying.— position where boris johnson is saying. saan— position where boris johnson is saying. sasn. sasi— position where boris johnson is saying, look, just hand saying, look, just just hand insn— saying, look, just just hand insn-ins- saying, look, just just hand- them _the government is them over and the government is goings—a- them over and the government is gaingt—a gaaal going, no, now it's not a good isas.— going, no, now it's not a good iaak. iss— going, no, now it's not a good iaak. ii-s na— going, no, now it's not a good look. it's no, it's— going, no, now it's not a good look. it's no, it's puzzling and in— look. it's no, it's puzzling and in nai— look. it's no, it's puzzling and in nss-knawt— look. it's no, it's puzzling and i'm not know, there good i'm not you know, there are good it's i'm not you know, there are good iss—say— i'm not you know, there are good ii-s—say-assl it's important to say there are aaisniiaiiy— it's important to say there are potentially good— it's important to say there are potentially good arguments for why— potentially good arguments for wny ss— potentially good arguments for wny ai— potentially good arguments for why some of this— potentially good arguments for why some of this material snaaian-i— why some of this material shouldn't released. shouldn't be released. we don't knaw— shouldn't be released. we don't knaw-in— shouldn't be released. we don't know-ininobody- shouldn't be released. we don't know in nobody does. know what's in it. nobody does. we know what's in it. nobody does. ws—nai— know what's in it. nobody does. ws—nai ii-

know what's in it. nobody does. we_but it certainlyi we can't judge. but it certainly aisa— we can't judge. but it certainly aisa iaaks— we can't judge. but it certainly also looks like— we can't judge. but it certainly also looks like might be the also looks like it might be the sass-wniis— also looks like it might be the case-while boris- also looks like it might be the case while boris johnson is case that while boris johnson is outlpowers_ case that while boris johnson is out-power,-could- case that while boris johnson is out power, could be out of power, there could be ssais— out of power, there could be ssais in— out of power, there could be stuff in there— out of power, there could be stuff in there potentially embarrassing— stuff in there potentially embarrassing people stuff in there potentially embarrassing-people in stuff in there potentially emigovernment. seople in stuff in there potentially emigovernment. seof e in stuff in there potentially emigovernment. seof in stuff in there potentially emigovernment. seof stuff in there potentially- emigovernment. seofi ask you one the government. so i ask you one other these in public other thing. these in public heanngs go other thing. these in public hearings go on hearings are going to go on until the summer of 2026. three flipping years public flipping years of public heanngs flipping years of public hearings will bored to death hearings will be bored to death by and that's the by then. and that's just the isginning— by then. and that's just the isginning-ii- by then. and that's just the beginning.-it took. t“ and that's just the beginning. it took the beginning. and so it took the sanaay— beginning. and so it took the sanaay ingaisy— beginning. and so it took the sunday inquiry 12 years. the trail— sunday inquiry 12 years. the inn was— sunday inquiry 12 years. the inn ingaisy— sunday inquiry 12 years. the iraq war inquiry, eight years. this one's going to go on pretty similar amount of time, isn't it? yeah it's one of the most important functions a public important functions of a public inquiry is take so long that inquiry is to take so long that the have got bored of the the public have got bored of the story. by time results story. by the time the results come out. it's— story. by the time the results come out. it's a— i2sitsigs by the time the results come out. 2 pigs come out. it's a peculiarly british tradition. yeah, absolutely. or that least absolutely. or that very least inas— absolutely. or that very least that everyone's_ absolutely. or that very least that everyone's-inl that everyone's no longer in aiiisst— that everyone's no longer in office, right?— that everyone's no longer in office, right? know, if office, right? you know, if yas— office, right? you know, if ysass-ssasn- office, right? you know, if you're expert politician you're an expert politician nawing— you're an expert politician nawingliaaa— you're an expert politician having load bad headlines having a load of bad headlines ana— having a load of bad headlines ans—yaa.- having a load of bad headlines ans—yaa. wsiiti and everyone hates you, well, you— and everyone hates you, well, yaa—iiwing- and everyone hates you, well, yaa—swing yaas| you know, you're living your asiwais— you know, you're living your asiwais-inai— you know, you're living your private that point. private life at that point. inai-s— private life at that point. was ins— private life at that point. that's the role. fitgs 2 2 that's the role. by the time it reports, we could have a prime minister who today, none of us ever of absolutely. and ever heard of absolutely. and should we just - didi should we just how long did swsasn— should we just how long did. swsasn—ingaisy sweden take to do their inquiry sans— sweden take to do their inquiry done-dusted? _ sweden take to do their inquiry done dusted.7 sizes oh, sweden take to do their inquiry done dusted? i/sitf t“ oh, well, done and dusted? yeah. oh, well, snai-s— done and dusted? yeah. oh, well, was iiks— done and dusted? yeah. oh, well, that's like everything,— done and dusted? / oh, well, that's like everything, right? siss.— that's like everything, right?

siss—in— that's like everything, right? sins—in anis- that's like everything, right? i like,_in this country like, everything in this country takes ages. so why should public inquiries different? yeah inquiries be any different? yeah it's it's it's a mess, it's right. it's a it's a mess, isn-i— it's right. it's a it's a mess, isn't-thank— it's right. it's a it's a mess, isn't-thank you- it's right. it's a it's a mess, isn't-thank you very- 2 i 2gt2 it's a it's a mess, isn't thank you very much isn't it? thank you very much for isn't it? thank you very much ias iaining— isn't it? thank you very much for joining-this— isn't it? thank you very much forjoining this morning. forjoining us this morning. nsnsy— forjoining us this morning. henry conservative home. henry hill, conservative home. nignss— henry hill, conservative home. nignss-sans.- henry hill, conservative home. right?-come, rail- right? still to come, rail aasssngss— right? still to come, rail passenger suffer fresh right? still to come, rail passeidisruptioniffer fresh right? still to come, rail passeidisruption in er fresh right? still to come, rail passeidisruption in the esh right? still to come, rail passeidisruption in the next travel disruption in the next isw— travel disruption in the next few - because - travel disruption in the next few because more staff few days because of more staff sisikss. — few days because of more staff sisikss. wa— few days because of more staff strikes. no more,— few days because of more staff strikes. no more,-ii strikes. no more, no more. i just don't want more. we'll just don't want any more. we'll tell you why in just—

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it's 1026 you're with to the channel it's gb!6 you're with to the channel it's gb news're with to the channel it's gb news withith to the channel it's gb news with andrewte point on gb news with andrew iissss— point on gb news with andrew iissss ana— point on gb news with andrew pierce and dawn— point on gb news with andrew pierce and dawn neesom. 32gt2 pierce and dawn neesom. right. okay— pierce and dawn neesom. right. okay ssaa— pierce and dawn neesom. right. okay saaa nsws— pierce and dawn neesom. right. okay good news coming up. oh, just joking. train services are being more strike just joking. train services are being this more strike just joking. train services are being this week.)re strike just joking. train services are being this week. driverse just joking. train services are being this week. drivers who action this week. drivers who are members of the aslef and rmt unions walk today in a unions will walk out today in a dispute over pay and conditions . ithink dispute over pay and conditions . i think they've walked out aissaiy— . i think they've walked out aissaay. ins— i think they've walked out already. the strike will affect ianiiiss— already. the strike will affect ianiiiss an— already. the strike will affect families on half— already. the strike will affect families on half breaks and families on half term breaks and aasssngsss— families on half term breaks and aasssngsss-ia- families on half term breaks and passengers-to the- passengers travelling to the fa cup— passengers travelling to the fa sap-in— passengers travelling to the fa sag-in ins— passengers travelling to the fa cup-in the epsom- passengers travelling to the fa cup in the epsom derby cup final in the epsom derby inis— cup final in the epsom derby this weekend— cup final in the epsom derby this weekend will be of course aiissisa. — this weekend will be of course affected. _ course i this weekend will be of course affected._course isj affected. and that of course is ins— affected. and that of course is the - deliberate - affected. and that of course is the deliberate strategy . the unions deliberate strategy. why— the unions deliberate strategy. wny-insy— the unions deliberate strategy. wny-ansy wny— the unions deliberate strategy. wny-ansy why is— the unions deliberate strategy. why-they why do that?- the unions deliberate strategy. why-they why do that? i- the unions deliberate strategy. why do they why do that? i know why do it. i know why they why they do it. i know why they maximus they it. maximus i know why they do it. but annoying. we're going but it's annoying. we're going to to but it's annoying. we're going ia—ia sais- but it's annoying. we're going ia—ia saw ia- but it's annoying. we're going to_to talk to our. to birmingham to talk to our ssaasiss. — to birmingham to talk to our reporter. we're— to birmingham to talk to our reporter. we're not- to birmingham to talk to our reporter. �*fis�*sit isit s2gsit22 “s2g reporter. we're not getting there by train, though, are we not? what's jack not? west midlands. what's jack sasan— not? west midlands. what's jack carson-birmingham,- “sit27 west midlands. what's jack carson birmingham, new carson at birmingham, new sasssn— carson at birmingham, new street? deserted? street? is it deserted? jack ssan.— street? is it deserted? jack ssan-ia— street? is it deserted? jack ssan-ii is. — street? is it deserted? jack yeah,-it is. andrew- street? is it deserted? jack | yeah,-it is. andrew and yeah, it is. it is. andrew and dawn. welcome to birmingham, new street. as you into the street. as you look into the signs on the in the in the in the station no services are running from here today. the west main line of course, west coast main line of course, run here by avanti west coast. they've no trains running. they've got no trains running. neither have crosscountry or as you go around the country, great

northern southeastern northern and southeastern thameslink , all other services. thameslink, all other services. just as example that aren't just as an example that aren't running services today. this is the aslef drivers union that are on strike today. and saturday. the rmt go on strike on friday, around 20,000 of those members are meant to meant to be walking out. and mick whelan, the general secretary of aslef, is saying that there are the negotiate options currently aren't aren't on going because of course they they were put a fair in what what the department of transport are calling a fair and reasonable offer to them a 4% backdated pay for last 4% backdated pay rise for last yeah 4% backdated pay rise for last year, for this year. that year, 4% for this year. that wasn't handed members. it was wasn't handed to members. it was denied the executive denied by the executive committee aslef because on a committee of aslef because on a picket line this morning at newcastle station, mick whelan said that there were no negotiations since they out negotiations since they came out with deal that contained with another deal that contained all our red lines. he said all of our red lines. he said that if you spend months in a room, tell people things that aren't you and aren't acceptable to you and they a deal that contain they produce a deal that contain those things, is those things, then that is setting deal to fail. setting up the deal to fail. hugh the the hugh merriman the rail, the transport minister is saying that this is a fair deal that

should be put to the members of the unions. that's why this strike ongoing, is strike is still ongoing, is because a deal hasn't been because a deal hasn't yet been reached. course, you remember reached. of course, you remember back that a back in march that there was a deal rmt and network deal between the rmt and network rail a 5% backdated pay rise rail of a 5% backdated pay rise for and a 4% pay rise for for 2022 and a 4% pay rise for this year. and in terms of the rmt side of things , that that rmt side of things, that that that offer of a 4% from a lot of the train companies for last year for this year has year and 4% for this year has also rejected some also been rejected leading some people especially commuters here to why these deals to question why these deals aren't going ahead but the mick mick lynch, of course , who was mick lynch, of course, who was the rmt general secretary, is saying that that until the government release the rail delivery group to negotiate more deals , these strikes will deals, these strikes will continue . all right, thanks . continue. all right, thanks. that's jack carson, our west iiiaianas— that's jack carson, our west midlands reporter at a deserted nisningnan— midlands reporter at a deserted birmingham new— midlands reporter at a deserted birmingham new street station. iasiasn— birmingham new street station. iasiasn i— birmingham new street station. forlorn i walked— birmingham new street station. forlorn i walked through paddington_ forlorn i walked through paddington today, one train an nsas— paddington today, one train an naas. — paddington today, one train an naas. iss— paddington today, one train an hour. i've actually- paddington today, one train an hour . i f2 paddington today, one train an hour. i f2 hour. i've actually and the station was deserted because people assume there are no trains. yeah. and that's what i

worry about. i've got friends who work on the railway and i do worry that this is like literally turkeys voting for christmas a lot of the time. it's you i forgot it's like, you know, i forgot that there was a rail strike today and i'm getting so used to it now. it's like, oh, it's a rail strike. i'll make alternative arrangements. i'm getting to making getting so used to making alternative arrangements. what if the on if other people do the same on the trains? exactly. and the trains? yeah, exactly. and they after they were deserted after pandemic. case, they were they were deserted after ptheynic. case, they were they were deserted after pthey were. case, they were they were deserted after pthey were. so case, they were they were deserted after pthey were. so a case, they were they were deserted after pthey were. so a few, they were they were deserted after pthey were. so a few questions'e . they were. so a few questions we to put to former we have there to put to former senior assistant general, secretary of the rmt union, steve with now steve hedley, who is with us now . morning, steve. good morning. okay, so what i want to know, as a member of the public is are the unions and the government actually talking to each other? because we hear one side saying they one side saying they're they are one side saying they're not, going on? well, i not, what's going on? well, i think there have— not, what's going on? well, i think there have been- 2gsis “2g 7 well, i think there have been extensive of negotiations— think there have been extensive of negotiations and to be quite nanssit— of negotiations and to be quite nanssit i— of negotiations and to be quite honest, i think— of negotiations and to be quite honest, i think that deal was sans— honest, i think that deal was aans an— honest, i think that deal was done on network— honest, i think that deal was done on network rail, which was an aaaaiiing— done on network rail, which was an appalling deal.— done on network rail, which was an appalling deal. it was well asiaw— an appalling deal. it was well below inflation— an appalling deal. it was well below inflation and it amounts to below inflation and it amounts ia aniy— below inflation and it amounts ia aniy sw— below inflation and it amounts to only 1% more— below inflation and it amounts to only 1% more than what's on ins— to only 1% more than what's on ins iaais— to only 1% more than what's on ins iaisis ai— to only 1% more than what's on the table at the— to only 1% more than what's on

the table at the minute. so i snink— the table at the minute. so i snink inas— the table at the minute. so i think that you've— the table at the minute. so i think that you've got the leaderships_ think that you've got the leaderships of- think that you've got the leaderships of the unions who are leaderships of the unions who asnaing— leaderships of the unions who are bending over— leaderships of the unions who are bending over backwards. they try are bending over backwards. they isy ia— are bending over backwards. they try to accommodate the government. _ try to accommodate the government. i- try to accommodate the government. i don't think they snaaia— government. i don't think they snaaia as. — government. i don't think they snaaia as. i— government. i don't think they should be. i think— government. i don't think they should be. i think they're should be. i think that they're insy-ss— should be. i think that they're insy-ss agsssing— should be. i think that they're they're agreeing the real terms pay-of— they're agreeing the real terms gay-as awni— they're agreeing the real terms pay of around 12% over the pay cuts of around 12% over the swa— pay cuts of around 12% over the iwa ysas — pay cuts of around 12% over the iwa ysas ana— pay cuts of around 12% over the two years. and bearing in mind inas— two years. and bearing in mind an asaais— two years. and bearing in mind that people haven't had a raise, a ias— that people haven't had a raise, a ias ai— that people haven't had a raise, a ias an assass— that people haven't had a raise, a lot of people haven't had a iss— a lot of people haven't had a pay— a lot of people haven't had a aay iss— a lot of people haven't had a raise pay rise since 2019. so i snink— raise pay rise since 2019. so i snink inas— raise pay rise since 2019. so i think that the _ raise pay rise since 2019. so i think that the trade union leaderships_ think that the trade union leaderships are behaving in a wssy— leaderships are behaving in a wssy wsak— leaderships are behaving in a wssy wsak way— leaderships are behaving in a very weak way and the government sassn— very weak way and the government assni assaassa— very weak way and the government assni assaassa ia— very weak way and the government aren't prepared to take aawaniags— aren't prepared to take advantage that by aren't prepared to take advantage .that by them advantage of that by giving them the advantage of that by giving them ins-ins— advantage of that by giving them ins-ins snaii— advantage of that by giving them the-the small fig- advantage of that by giving them the the small fig leaf to the small, the small fig leaf to insis— the small, the small fig leaf to cover their embarrassment that insy— cover their embarrassment that insywani— cover their embarrassment that insywani. — cover their embarrassment that insy wani . sa— cover their embarrassment that they want. isit they want. so, steve, you're saying the rmt should never have signed up to that deal with with the rmt employees on network rail who look after the trains and the infrastructure? no, they should they shouldn't have they shouldn't have the inflation last year was 10% inflation. this they agreed this year is 10. they agreed a sa— this year is 10. they agreed a as ssai— this year is 10. they agreed a as asai ias— this year is 10. they agreed a 5% deal for last— this year is 10. they agreed a 5% deal for last year for % for 5% deal for last year for% for inis— 5% deal for last year for% for inis ysas. — 5% deal for last year for% for inis ysas. sa— 5% deal for last year for% for this year. so it's— 5% deal for last year for% for this year. so it's a- 5% deal for last year for% for this year. so it's a real terms pav— this year. so it's a real terms aay sai— this year. so it's a real terms aay sas ai— this year. so it's a real terms pay cut of around— this year. so it's a real terms pay cut of around 12. you know, so pay cut of around 12. you know, sa ii-s— pay cut of around 12. you know, sa its a— pay cut of around 12. you know, so it's a ridiculous— pay cut of around 12. you know, so it's a ridiculous situation aai— so it's a ridiculous situation aas insy— so it's a ridiculous situation

but they agreed— so it's a ridiculous situation but they agreed that deal so i snink— but they agreed that deal so i snink ins— but they agreed that deal so i think the rail— but they agreed that deal so i think the rail unions have bent over backwards— think the rail unions have bent over backwards to— think the rail unions have bent over backwards to try to get a asai. — over backwards to try to get a asai. nai— over backwards to try to get a asai. sas ins— over backwards to try to get a deal. but the government have isssn— deal. but the government have been absolutely— deal. but the government have been absolutely obstinate assaass— been absolutely obstinate because they're the ones and remember, the— because they're the ones and remember, the government really snaaian-i— remember, the government really snaaian-i as— remember, the government really shouldn't be playing a role in inis.— shouldn't be playing a role in inis. ii— shouldn't be playing a role in this. it should— shouldn't be playing a role in this. it should be— shouldn't be playing a role in this. it should be a private saaniss— this. it should be a private companies who— this. it should be a private companies who are negotiating insss— companies who are negotiating insss asais. — companies who are negotiating these deals. the— companies who are negotiating these deals. the government are preventings— these deals. the government are preventings ias— these deals. the government are preventing, for reason, preventing, for some reason, assi— preventing, for some reason, best-themselves,l preventing, for some reason,. best-themselves, the best known to themselves, the isain — best known to themselves, the train companies— best known to themselves, the train companies train operating sasnnaaiss— train companies train operating companies coming a deal companies. coming up with a deal wiin— companies. coming up with a deal win-nai— companies. coming up with a deal with-rail came- companies. coming up with a deal with-rail came up- companies. coming up with a deal with rail came up with, with network rail came up with, you with network rail came up with, yaa knawt— with network rail came up with, yaa knawt ass— with network rail came up with, you know, are worried you know, are you not worried aaaai— you know, are you not worried aaan—sisas] you know, are you not worried. about _steve, that about dawn's point? steve, that people— about dawn's point? steve, that people are just getting out of the habit now of using trains? that happened during the pandemic. passenger pandemic. 20% fall in passenger numbers during the pandemic because for obvious reasons and a lot of those people have never come back to the trains. so all these strikes are surely going to are going to find to mean people are going to find alternative ways which is going to mean your your colleagues to mean your your ex colleagues are a job are going to be out of a job because you won't need so many drivers and they won't need so many well, think many staff off. well, i think there a remarkable there has been a remarkable recovery in since the pandemic. i they're there about i think they're up there about 90%_ i think they're up there about sows-nasi— i think they're up there about 90%.most places- i think they're up there about 90% most places in london. 90% in most places in london. iss— 90% in most places in london. is ssn— 90% in most places in london. it's even more—

90% in most places in london. it's even more .the- 90% in most places in london. it's even more the tubular it's even more in the tubular asias— it's even more in the tubular belts-bearing- it's even more in the tubular belts-bearing in- it's even more in the tubular. belts-bearing in-that belts. and bearing in mide that the belts. and bearing in mind that the oversubscribed the trains were oversubscribed inlway— the trains were oversubscribed inlway yaa— the trains were oversubscribed in way you couldn't really you in a way you couldn't really you knawt— in a way you couldn't really you knawt-isains— in a way you couldn't really you know,-trains were- in a way you couldn't really you know, trains were overfull. know, the trains were overfull. people— know, the trains were overfull. people couldn't— know, the trains were overfull. people couldn't stand up in a lot people couldn't stand up in a ias ai— people couldn't stand up in a ias as sasss— people couldn't stand up in a ias as ,— people couldn't stand up in a lot of cases , you— people couldn't stand up in a lot of cases , you know, lot of cases, you know, definitely— lot of cases, you know, definitely couldn't get a seat . definitely couldn't get a seat. isains— definitely couldn't get a seat. isains sws— definitely couldn't get a seat. trains were over— definitely couldn't get a seat. trains were over packed. so i aan-i— trains were over packed. so i aan-i-inink— trains were over packed. so i don't-think that's- trains were over packed. so i don't think that's that's don't really think that's that's snai-s— don't really think that's that's that's credible.— don't really think that's that's that's credible. but i do i do sass— that's credible. but i do i do sass ins— that's credible. but i do i do take the point— that's credible. but i do i do take the point that people do was— take the point that people do was ssan — take the point that people do work from home— take the point that people do work from home and which wasn't ssaiiy— work from home and which wasn't ssaiiy an— work from home and which wasn't ssaiiy an aaiian— work from home and which wasn't really an option before the aanasnis. — really an option before the pandemic. .that- really an option before the pandemic. that will account pandemic. and that will account for pandemic. and that will account ias ss— pandemic. and that will account ias assass— pandemic. and that will account for some people not taking the gain — for some people not taking the gain .ins— for some people not taking the train. .the trains— for some people not taking the train. the trains are very train. but the trains are very asaiiiaisis. — train. but the trains are very profitable. you've still got the isain— profitable. you've still got the train operating— profitable. you've still got the train operating companies being aaia— train operating companies being aaia aiiiians— train operating companies being paid billions of— train operating companies being paid billions of pounds year paid billions of pounds a year ana— paid billions of pounds a year ans-aai— paid billions of pounds a year and-out tens- paid billions of pounds a year and-out tens of- paid billions of pounds a year and out tens of millions and paying out tens of millions to and paying out tens of millions ia insis— and paying out tens of millions ia insis ia— and paying out tens of millions to their to their— and paying out tens of millions to their to their shareholders . to their to their shareholders. saa— to their to their shareholders. vaa knawt — to their to their shareholders. vaa knawt ii— to their to their shareholders. you know, if that— to their to their shareholders. you know, if that money from the snassnaiasss— you know, if that money from the shareholders was— you know, if that money from the shareholders was transferred insa— shareholders was transferred inia wassssk — shareholders was transferred into workers, there wouldn't be a asaisisn— into workers, there wouldn't be a asaaisn. ins— into workers, there wouldn't be a problem. the strikes would nays— a problem. the strikes would naws isssn— a problem. the strikes would have been solved long ago. so sisas.— have been solved long ago. so steve, talking— have been solved long ago. so steve, talking of— have been solved long ago. so steve, talking of the strikes asing— steve, talking of the strikes being settled _ steve, talking of the strikes being settled long ago, how long are being settled long ago, how long insy— being settled long ago, how long insy gaing— being settled long ago, how long insy gaing ia— being settled long ago, how long are they going to for? on are they going to go for? on wsiit— are they going to go for? on wsiitlaan-i— are they going to go for? on well, don't know. i think that well, i don't know. i think that the well, i don't know. i think that ins ssaas— well, i don't know. i think that the trade union— well, i don't know. i think that the trade union leaderships are assassais— the trade union leaderships are assassais ia— the trade union leaderships are desperate to get— the trade union leaderships are desperate to get a deal. but you nass— desperate to get a deal. but you naws gai— desperate to get a deal. but you naws gas ins— desperate to get a deal. but you have got the pressure from the sank— have got the pressure from the sank ana— have got the pressure from the rank and members who are rank and file members who are iasi— rank and file members who are iasi gang,— rank and file members who are iasi gaingt iaakt— rank and file members who are just going, look, we're not

asssaiing— just going, look, we're not accepting this. _ just going, look, we're not accepting this. totally accepting this. it's totally unacceptable _ accepting this. it's totally unacceptable you're asking unacceptable. you're asking us to unacceptable. you're asking us ia-nassiws— unacceptable. you're asking us to-massive real- unacceptable. you're asking us to massive real terms pay to take a massive real terms pay sas.— to take a massive real terms pay sas. i— to take a massive real terms pay sas. i inink— to take a massive real terms pay cut. i think-where- to take a massive real terms pay cut. i think where the cut. i think that's where the pressures coming from. it's not the pressures coming from. it's not ins sasi— pressures coming from. it's not ins sass-yanks— pressures coming from. it's not the fact-you've got- pressures coming from. it's not the fact you've got strong the fact that you've got strong isaasssnias.— the fact that you've got strong leaderships. _the - leaderships. it's quite the aaaasiis. — leaderships. it's quite the. opposite. _ strong opposite. you've got a strong sank— opposite. you've got a strong sanassk—- opposite. you've got a strong. rank—are rejecting rank and file who are rejecting the leadership's_ rank and file who are rejecting the leadership's attempts to strong— the leadership's attempts to strong-them— the leadership's attempts to strong them into taking strong arm them into taking these— strong arm them into taking these deals— strong arm them into taking these deals . _ strong arm them into taking these deals . : these deals. steve hadley is former assistant general secretary to the rmt. thank you so much forjoining us. i don't know that the public's onside with this strike trains. i think they support with this strike trains. i think they support the_ with this strike trains. i think they support the nurses. - i think they support the nurses. i don't think— they support the nurses. i don't think they— they support the nurses. i don't think they support the train drivers. — think they support the train drivers. i— think they support the train drivers. i think— think they support the train drivers. f drivers. i think that's the case because train drivers salary is around £65,000 year. pretty around £65,000 a year. pretty good right? still good going. right? well, still to come, we have more on the kathleen stock protests from yesterday. that's after your morning smith . morning news with rory smith. thank you very much . john thank you very much. john phillip schofield— thank you very much. john phillip schofield has- john phillip schofield has been axed as an ambassador— phillip schofield has been axed as an ambassador for the prince-s— as an ambassador for the prince's trust— as an ambassador for the prince's trust with the charity saying — prince's trust with the charity saying i— prince's trust with the charity saying ii is— prince's trust with the charity saying ii is no— prince's trust with the charity saying it is no longer annnnaiais- saying it is no longer appropriate to work with them . appropriate to work with them. wai— appropriate to work with them. well, i— appropriate to work with them. well, it comes— appropriate to work with them. well, it comes as—

appropriate to work with them. well, it comes as mps will grill itv well, it comes as mps will grill iiv in— well, it comes as mps will grill itv in parliament— well, it comes as mps will grill itv in parliament next week over its itv in parliament next week over is naniiing— itv in parliament next week over is naniiing ai— itv in parliament next week over its handling of schofield's anaii— its handling of schofield's affair with— its handling of schofield's affair with a _ its handling of schofield's affair with a younger male saiisagas— affair with a younger male saiisagas .— affair with a younger male colleague . the— affair with a younger male colleague . the broadcaster colleague. the broadcaster insisis— colleague. the broadcaster insisis ii— colleague. the broadcaster insists it did— colleague. the broadcaster insists it did investigate rumours at— insists it did investigate rumours at the time , but both rumours at the time, but both aaniss— rumours at the time, but both parties denied— rumours at the time, but both parties denied them . rail parties denied them. rail passengers— parties denied them. rail passengers are facing travel iisianiian— passengers are facing travel disruption amid— passengers are facing travel disruption amid strike action niin— disruption amid strike action niin aain— disruption amid strike action with train companies warning ssnisss— with train companies warning ssnisss niii— with train companies warning services will be _ with train companies warning services will be severely nausea— services will be severely reduced today. members of the invas— reduced today. members of the drivers union— reduced today. members of the drivers union aslef are striking iaiay— drivers union aslef are striking iaiay ana— drivers union aslef are striking iaiay and an— drivers union aslef are striking today and on saturday as well. wniis— today and on saturday as well. wniis ins— today and on saturday as well. while the rmt— today and on saturday as well. while the rmt union members will nak— while the rmt union members will nain aai— while the rmt union members will way an an— while the rmt union members will walk out on friday,— while the rmt union members will walk out on friday, aslef sansiai— walk out on friday, aslef general secretary mick whelan ins — general secretary mick whelan accuses the government of not waning— accuses the government of not naniing a— accuses the government of not wanting a resolution. but the savsinnsni— wanting a resolution. but the government says it has facilitated— government says it has facilitated a _ government says it has facilitated a fair and reasonable- facilitated a fair and reasonable pay offer come iannsis— reasonable pay offer come farmers on prepayment metres are being— farmers on prepayment metres are being naggi— farmers on prepayment metres are being urged ia— farmers on prepayment metres are being urged to avoid missing out on being urged to avoid missing out an snoo— being urged to avoid missing out on nine nann— being urged to avoid missing out on £400 worth of— being urged to avoid missing out on £400 worth of support with insi— on £400 worth of support with insii energy— on £400 worth of support with their energy bills. _ on £400 worth of support with their energy bills. all households- their energy bills. all households were eligible for the savannsn-is— households were eligible for the government's energy bills sangan— government's energy bills support scheme, which was paid in six— support scheme, which was paid in six instalments— support scheme, which was paid in six instalments over the winin— in six instalments over the wing .— in six instalments over the wing. nai—

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debate . when it started, it was debate. when it started, it was interrupted by a student who was also protesting here and they glued themselves to the floor. and then another student who was in there and disrupted the event was ejected just through that doon was ejected just through that door, which goes into the union. interestingly though, there were people from both sides. some were here in support of the professor, but it was just a handful of people in comparison to some of those students who were here throughout the day , were here throughout the day, though, there were some speeches happening at bonn square, which is just around the corner from here, and lincoln college , which here, and lincoln college, which is just a few roads from here in the heart of oxford. but yesterday we did speak to many of those people who were here in this area. and this is what they had to say. issues are being used— had to say. issues are being used as— had to say. issues are being used as a— had to say. issues are being used as a divisive- “en: issues are being used as a divisive distraction by a_ used as a divisive distraction by a iaige— used as a divisive distraction by a large amount of the media ana— by a large amount of the media and parliament— by a large amount of the media and parliament to— by a large amount of the media and parliament to distract aiieniien— and parliament to distract attention from _ and parliament to distract attention from issues such as ane— attention from issues such as ane-ei— attention from issues such as ane-ei iiving— attention from issues such as the of living crisis and the cost of living crisis and rising— the cost of living crisis and rising-iaies- the cost of living crisis and rising-rates that. the cost of living crisis and rising rates that have rising poverty rates that have a far nieaiei— rising poverty rates that have a far broader-the- rising poverty rates that have a far broader the lives far broader effect on the lives of far broader effect on the lives ei-neenie— far broader effect on the lives

of-people . — far broader effect on the lives of-people . today,- far broader effect on the lives of people . : �*0 of many people. today, 10 million adults in the uk and 5 million adults in the uk and 5 million children will struggle to find enough to eat. and to you know, to lead a reasonable and decent human life and one of the richest countries in the world. but when i looked at the bbc morning , world. but when i looked at the bbc morning, occupying a bbc this morning, occupying a prominent daily prominent position in the daily headunes prominent position in the daily headlines about the headlines is talk about the oxford inviting oxford union inviting inviting this professor to speak and, you know, at the end of the day, it's perhaps it's an important issue regarding speech. but issue regarding free speech. but i really the way i think that really the way i see it is it's a divisive distraction . but . see it is it's a divisive distraction . but. i see it is it's a divisive distraction . but . i get so there distraction. but. i get so there were people from both sides who were people from both sides who were here. and it leaves many questions— were here. and it leaves many questions actually— were here. and it leaves many questions actually .— innit; “iii; and it leaves many questions actually . what does ti ti and it leaves many questions actually . what does it questions actually. what does it ian— questions actually. what does it mean for academics? what does it ian— mean for academics? what does it iei pennie— mean for academics? what does it mean for people who have a large niaiiein — mean for people who have a large niaiiein ia— mean for people who have a large platform to express— mean for people who have a large platform to express their views, nanieaiany— platform to express their views, particularly when _ platform to express their views, particularly when it comes to universities?— particularly when it comes to universities? it's— particularly when it comes to universities? it's not a new ii-s— universities? it's not a new area. it's been— universities? it's not a new area. it's been happening at annea— area. it's been happening at other universities across the county — other universities across the county so — other universities across the country. so we'll— other universities across the country. so we'll have to wait ani— country. so we'll have to wait and see— country. so we'll have to wait and nnai— country. so we'll have to wait and see what happens for future eensn— and see what happens for future evensi ine— and see what happens for future events like this. _ and see what happens for future events like this. but this union

is an— events like this. but this union is an aia— events like this. but this union is an old establishment around ine— is an old establishment around ins yeas— is an old establishment around two yeas zoo— is an old establishment around two years, 200 years. many people— two years, 200 years. many people nave— two years, 200 years. many people have come to speak over the people have come to speak over nne yeas — people have come to speak over ane yeas nan— people have come to speak over the years. but what— people have come to speak over the years. but what does it mean for the years. but what does it mean iei ine— the years. but what does it mean iei nne nannie— the years. but what does it mean for the future of— the years. but what does it mean for the future of places like inise — for the future of places like this? catherine— for the future of places like this? . ii/iiiii" this? catherine stock yeah, that's theo chikomba, our national reporter in oxford. well, with us in the studio now is siennen— well, with us in the studio now is stephen pound,— well, with us in the studio now is stephen pound, the former iaieai— is stephen pound, the former iaieai iin— is stephen pound, the former labour mp, and— is stephen pound, the former labour mp, and emma webb, who speaks— labour mp, and emma webb, who speaks cannon— labour mp, and emma webb, who speaks common sense, as you'd expect— speaks common sense, as you'd expect, ieeaase— speaks common sense, as you'd expect, because she's the arena— expect, because she's the director common sense director of the common sense seeieiy. — director of the common sense seeieay. sne— director of the common sense society. she is— director of the common sense society. t" society. she is very common sense she's lovely and sense and she's very lovely and she's been very quiet so far. but she. what you make of but she. what did you make of beth stock? she hasn't beth mead stock? she hasn't brought i didn't. brought a sweets. no, i didn't. i didn't bring any fudge, some irish fudge because he knows of i didn't bring any fudge, some irisiirish ge because he knows of i didn't bring any fudge, some irisiirish heritage se he knows of i didn't bring any fudge, some irisiirish heritage se hii'm ows of my irish heritage and i'm not sure i'm being outflanked by stephen. and you do a lot of fudging. do. now, what about fudging. i do. now, what about nonessen— fudging. i do. now, what about professor stock?— i:.ig g i do. now, what about professor stock? think i:g g i do. now, what about professor stock? think she's professor stock? i think she's ineieaiiiy—il professor stock? i think she's- incredibly—i think incredibly brave woman. i think shes— incredibly brave woman. i think sne-slnen. — incredibly brave woman. i think she'slhero. and— incredibly brave woman. i think she's hero. and the way that she's a hero. and the way that she's a hero. and the way that she by her she was treated by her university she was university before she was basically out. she was. basically driven out. she was. was university? remind me, was it university? remind me, was was it university? remind me, naslsassexe — was it university? remind me, was sussex? sussex? so she was it sussex? sussex? so she she is of all places. she's almost she's almost regal in the way that she stands up for free

speech. and she's she's so forthright and so strong and so insistent facts over insistent on facts over feelings. yeah. and she has faced so much opposition from her own university , but now also her own university, but now also at oxford university. and this girl who's glued herself to the floor, stupid girl of the union, turns out that her father is also an extinction rebellion activist. so radicalism clearly runs in the family. yes. and she thought if you had to go to oxford, you had to be clever. well, i don't know if she's eeivei— well, i don't know if she's clever about— well, i don't know if she's clever about glueing herself to the clever about glueing herself to nne finen— clever about glueing herself to nne iieen se— clever about glueing herself to the floor, so i— clever about glueing herself to the floor, so i don't i don't knew. — the floor, so i don't i don't knew. i— the floor, so i don't i don't know. i don't— the floor, so i don't i don't know. i don't know- the floor, so i don't i don't know. iiiii l �*" the floor, so i don't i don't know. ci?" l �*" know. i don't know if she's actually a student at oxford university but she her university or not, but she her her her her own sort of self—described bio is far too fruity to say on fruity for me to say on breakfast. i'll say it if you want. stephen it's not, it's not it's not suitable for pre—war to shed too many swear words in it or after she's she's she's or even after she's she's she's an activist on many fronts. it's not just trans issues. it's not just on trans issues. it's also she's an anti—monarchist protester as well. so she's an and what's so interesting about

this is that the protesters are saying that trans trans issues are not up for debate. and so this is a very, very clear cut. it's free speech versus those who want to silence free speech in the name of their ideology, cause they don't think that there's anything up for debate there. and what's so fantastic about this is the prime minister, quite unusually , came minister, quite unusually, came out in support of her speaking at the union because they were trying to get her cancelled from from speaking there . and i think from speaking there. and i think this an important, important this is an important, important victory, turning victory, an important turning point in the fight for free speech. he's appointing a free sneeen.— speech. he's appointing a free sneeen. i— speech. he's appointing a free sneeen. i naie— speech. he's appointing a free speech. i hate the— . he's appointing a free speech. i hate the word tsar, nai— speech. i hate the word tsar, nan—iine - speech. i hate the word tsar, but—like that. - but something like that. a caniiiige— but something like that. a cambridge academic, arif ahmed, who cambridge academic, arif ahmed, nne is— cambridge academic, arif ahmed, nne is a— cambridge academic, arif ahmed, who is a philosopher from canning— who is a philosopher from cambridge, again , a real hero of cambridge, again, a real hero of nee— cambridge, again, a real hero of fee sneeen. — cambridge, again, a real hero of free speech. they— cambridge, again, a real hero of free speech. "clan t: i l free speech. they couldn't have possibly made a better appointment . and so that with appointment. and so that with the passing of the higher education, free speech bill, i think, you know, this government really taking free speech seriously . and this is possibly seriously. and this is possibly one of the first times that i

have seen such a pushback , have seen such a pushback, institutional pushback. the union itself saying, no, we're not going to cancel this event, 100 academics and students signing a letter saying do not cancel this event. i think that this is this marks a turning point at which we're saying, actually, no, we're not going to be silenced anymore. we're not going to let these sorts of silly disruptions that, you know, generalised protests now than glueing themselves to things . these are things and whatnot. these are just thing just radicals. this thing is shameful stephen, had shameful, stephen, that she had to bodyguards. yes. to have three bodyguards. yes. well, least let us hope d yes. well, least let us hope not well, at least let us hope not for well, at least let us hope not iei ine— well, at least let us hope not for the first— well, at least let us hope not for the first time— well, at least let us hope not for the first time that emma is aiseiaieiy— for the first time that emma is absolutely spot— for the first time that emma is absolutely spot on. ' i: for the first time that emma is absolutely spot on. 'i: , g absolutely spot on. and right nee.— absolutely spot on. and right here, when you look at the success of gb news, why are you successful at the moment? apart success of gb news, why are you succetheil at the moment? apart success of gb news, why are you succethe qualityt moment? apart success of gb news, why are you succethe quality ofioment? apart success of gb news, why are you succethe quality of theznt? apart from the quality of the presenters? obviously the quality guests quality of the guests occasionally down occasionally drags it down a bit, but the reality is free speech. that's what and when i was president students was president of the students union the london school of union at the london school of economics, thing at economics, and we had a thing at the time, no platform for racist, and fascist, racist, racist and fascist, which right to which is all right up to a point. but i said, look, we're here to be have our brains sharpened actually

sharpened to actually look. we're to listen what we're not here to listen to what we hear the same thing we want to hear the same thing over and over again. you've got to listen to alternative views. and that was in middle and that was in the middle of the yeah that was the last century. yeah that was probably in the 20s. it was the oxford probably in the 20s. it was the extent union— probably in the 20s. it was the oxford union that— probably in the 20s. it was the oxford union that also- i $705 it was the oxford union that also did have the oxford union that also did have ane-ei— oxford union that also did have ine-ei ine— oxford union that also did have the of the national front the head of the national front ines— the head of the national front aaa, ias.— the head of the national front there, too. that's— the head of the national front there, too. that's speech there, too. that's right. speech ana— there, too. that's right. speech analieiaie— there, too. that's right. speech andldebate once _ there, too. that's right. speech and debate once but they had and a debate once but they had iianin— and a debate once but they had martin mcguinness they've martin mcguinness and they've nai— martin mcguinness and they've nae—i— martin mcguinness and they've had—i debated- martin mcguinness and they've had i debated with had me i mean i debated with inese—in- these amazing anyone in envieasiy— these amazing anyone ini obviously—look obviously did anyone look no. inne— obviously did anyone look no. iniee—nva- obviously did anyone look no. iniee—nva ofl three people actually two of them protesters. were you three people actually two of thewith protesters. were you three people actually two of thewith theresatsters. were you three people actually two of thewith theresa may. oh,a you three people actually two of thewith theresa may. oh, no. on with theresa may. oh, no. this this is the thing, though, isn't it? these people are fundamentally undemocratic because they want debate. because they don't want debate. they they they use because they don't want debate. they sort they they use because they don't want debate. they sort of they they use because they don't want debate. they sort of like they they use because they don't want debate. they sort of like little they use because they don't want debate. they sort of like little tricks use these sort of like little tricks to make the argument that these things up for debate. things are not up for debate. you must just simply accept them. and you to. and these them. and you have to. and these are are contested ideas. are these are contested ideas. these are contested ideologies. but ironic because they but it's ironic because they always talk about power , but always talk about power, but fundamentally about power , fundamentally it's about power, isn't from their isn't it, from their perspective, controversial thing . if the debate and the speech inan— . if the debate and the speech inn—giving- that kathleen was giving last nigni—sneeeni that kathleen was giving last. night—speech and night was about free speech and the night was about free speech and nne igni— night was about free speech and nne nigni ne— night was about free speech and the right to have— night was about free speech and the right to have an opinion, to anieaiaie— the right to have an opinion, to articulate opinion,— the right to have an opinion, to articulate opinion, and the

young— articulate opinion, and the young iaiy— articulate opinion, and the young lady, i_ articulate opinion, and the young lady, i think it was. is iaai-s— young lady, i think it was. is paul's letter— young lady, i think it was. is paul's letter name. - young lady, i think it was. is paul's letter name. yes- young lady, i think it was. is paul's letter name. yes yes. who glued herself there.- /is /is who glued herself there. surely inan— who glued herself there. surely inai nas— who glued herself there. surely inai nei— who glued herself there. surely that was her right. demonstrating her access to that was her right.— demonstrating her access to free sneeene — demonstrating her access to free sgeeene na. — demonstrating her access to free sgeeene in i— demonstrating her access to free speech? no, i hate— demonstrating her access to free speech? no, i hate to- demonstrating her access to free speech? niii d speech? no, i hate to disagree with you, but look, i'm not. i'm just you. no, no, no. the reality is, if she'd wanted to, she could have gone on the platform. she could have had her own you know? own speech. you know? i mean, i'm quite there's absolutely nothing. that. nothing. no problem with that. but i think i've but i think i mean, i've actually looked at the transcript what kathleen transcript of what kathleen stock was saying last night. and i think one point she was i think at one point she was talking about cartesian dualism. and could see and i think you could just see the which i'm the blank faces, which i'm struggling. the reality is i think point where think this is a point where people actually say, well, people will actually say, well, hang what kathleen hang on a second. what kathleen stock is actually saying that there should be safe places for men, and trans men and men, women and trans men and trans have trans women, but you can't have some with a beard some bloke with a beard wandering the women's wandering into the women's changing marks and changing room at marks and spencer's because identifies spencer's because he identifies as woman. know, how as a woman. so, you know, how flippant is that? and flippant obvious is that? and male anatomy. let's male anatomy. yeah. well let's you— male anatomy. yeah. well let's yea-earn.— male anatomy. yeah. well let's yea-eany. vean- you know it's early. yeah, anan-s— you know it's early. yeah, anan-s igni— you know it's early. yeah, that's right though isn't it? cannieaeiy— that's right though isn't it? completely she's that's right though isn't it? completely-she's that completely and she's making that gaini— completely and she's making that neini-is— completely and she's making that paint-is a— completely and she's making that paint-is a penny- point and that is a pretty mainstream— point and that is a pretty mainstream _of- point and that is a pretty mainstream of view. point and that is a pretty- mainstream _of view. yeah mainstream point of view. yeah visit.—

mainstream point of view. yeah vieii.—anaagnn | well, you would have thought. would so wouldn't it. would have hoped so wouldn't it. but, but the, the. because this would have hoped so wouldn't it. but,had the, the. because this would have hoped so wouldn't it. but,had and the. because this would have hoped so wouldn't it. but,had and this because this would have hoped so wouldn't it. but,had and this isecause this would have hoped so wouldn't it. but,had and this is a ause this would have hoped so wouldn't it. but,had and this is a pointthis would have hoped so wouldn't it. but,had and this is a point that has had and this is a point that sne— has had and this is a point that sne asnaaiiy— has had and this is a point that she actually makes that, you knew,— she actually makes that, youi knea—singiy know, institutions just simply iisiening— know, institutions just simply iisiening ie— know, institutions just simply listening to protesters then listening to protesters and then inning— listening to protesters and then inning ie— listening to protesters and then bowing to whatever the protesters— bowing to whatever the protesters demands one protesters demands are. it's one of protesters demands are. it's one ei-in— protesters demands are. it's one ei-in vvnien— protesters demands are. it's one of-in which these- of the ways in which these eeniesiea— of the ways in which these contested - have - of the ways in which these contested have taken hold contested ideas have taken hold in institutions.— contested ideas have taken hold in institutions. even though in institutions. so even though aneie— in institutions. so even though aneielne— in institutions. so even though ineielne sen— in institutions. so even though there-no sort of— in institutions. so even though there no sort of you know, there is no sort of you know, ine— there is no sort of you know, ane nateiiay— there is no sort of you know, the majority of— there is no sort of you know, the majority of people in this county— the majority of people in this country aan-n— the majority of people in this country don't agree with it, evenyneay— country don't agree with it, everybody knows common sense inan— everybody knows common sense inai—nen- that there are there are men and men— that there are there are men and mere-vane.— that there are there are men and there-women.-there- that there are there are men and there women. there are there are women. yes, there are very,— there are women. yes, there are very-iev— there are women. yes, there are very-fen people- there are women. yes, there are very, few people who are very, very few people who are inieisex— very, very few people who are intersex and— very, very few people who are intersex and that— very, very few people who are intersex and that your your you knew,— intersex and that your your you know,-biologically- know, your biologically biological— know, your biologically biological sex based are biological sex based rights are aiseiaieiy— biological sex based rights are absolutely fundamental. you're nannieen— absolutely fundamental. you're kathleen stock— absolutely fundamental. you're kathleen stock is— absolutely fundamental. you're kathleen stock is making the aiganeni— kathleen stock is making the argument that,— kathleen stock is making the argument that, you know, we need to ie— argument that, you know, we need to ie eaieiai— argument that, you know, we need to be careful about— argument that, you know, we need to be careful about who you let inis— to be careful about who you let inie venesn— to be careful about who you let into women's spaces. it's a ianianeniai— into women's spaces. it's a fundamental feminist point about nignis— fundamental feminist point about women's rights and protecting women and women's safety. they aisa— women and women's safety. they aisa teeny— women and women's safety. they aisa penny nasn— women and women's safety. they also pretty much brought down the-government- also pretty much brought down the government in scotland the snp government in scotland isecause— the snp government in scotland because themselves into because they got themselves into aieniiie— because they got themselves into aieniiie en— because they got themselves into a terrible on the— because they got themselves into a terrible on the on— because they got themselves into a terrible on the on the one nann— a terrible on the on the one nana iney-ie— a terrible on the on the one hand they're trying well they nai— hand they're trying well they naa ine— hand they're trying well they had the-rapist- hand they're trying well they had the - rapist. a - hand they're trying well they had the rapist a women's had the male rapist in a women's arisen. — had the male rapist in a women's prison. precisely. _ had the male rapist in a women's prison. precisely-can- had the male rapist in a women's prison. fittiii can you prison. precisely. so can you nenesiiy— prison. precisely. so can you honestly imagine— prison. fittiii so can you honestly imagine and i think nannieen— honestly imagine and i think kathleen stock— honestly imagine and i think kathleen stock i mean i've aeiaaiiy— kathleen stock i mean i've.

actually—books actually read one of her books sne-s— actually read one of her books sne-s a— actually read one of her books sne-s a very— actually read one of her books she's a very clear,— actually read one of her books she's a very clear, concise and precise— she's a very clear, concise and precise-sne-s- she's a very clear, concise and precise she's actually precise writer. she's actually ieaening— teaching in america now. and i inink— teaching in america now. and i inink nnai— teaching in america now. and i think what absolute crying think what a absolute crying snane— think what a absolute crying snane inan— think what a absolute crying shame that she's she's been inven— shame that she's she's been driven-anis— shame that she's she's been driven this country and she driven from this country and she ani— driven from this country and she and sne-s— driven from this country and she and sne-s-ei— driven from this country and she and she's-of like— driven from this country and she and she's of like she's got and she's sort of like she's got and she's sort of like she's got a nine— and she's sort of like she's got a little .with_ and she's sort of like she's got a little .with her- and she's sort of like she's got a little with her partner, a little girl with her partner, a little girl with her partner, a-gin— a little girl with her partner, a-gin winn— a little girl with her partner, a girl with partner. a little girl with her partner,- a-girl withlpartner. and a baby girl with a partner. and she naa— a baby girl with a partner. and she had tight— a baby girl with a partner. and she had tight security at her home. because of home. it's terrible because of that. kathleen's has always that. and kathleen's has always said, can disagree reasonably said, we can disagree reasonably and be friends. but isn't and still be friends. but isn't that the motto _ and still be friends. but isn't that the motto of— and still be friends. but isn't that the motto of gb- nii�*i: sec : but isn't that the motto of gb news? but, but that the motto of gb news? but, tat naa— that the motto of gb news? but, int int ane— that the motto of gb news? but, but but the other— that the motto of gb news? but, but but the other thing, stephen, why it a stephen, why is it such a problem in your political party? the labour party just quite clear what a woman is and clear about what a woman is and what man is because keir what a man is because keir starmer is still saying 99.9. i think that was ed davey said anan — think that was ed davey said nnan ia— think that was ed davey said that. ed davey— think that was ed davey said that. i: i �*vninill think that was ed davey said that. i: i �*vninill ci?" l that. ed davey well, he i don't say starmer has been pretty weak on this area. i don't think so. i on this area. i don't think so. i nnink— on this area. i don't think so. i think starmer— on this area. i don't think so. i think starmer is— i don't think so. i think starmer is pretty clear i— i think starmer is pretty clear i inink— i think starmer is pretty clear now. i think all— i think starmer is pretty clear now. i think all of us are. but ine— now. i think all of us are. but ane peniten— now. i think all of us are. but the problem is— now. i think all of us are. but the problem is there's been a sen— the problem is there's been a sen ei— the problem is there's been a sen at an— the problem is there's been a sort of an agony— the problem is there's been a sort of an agony on the liberal ieii— sort of an agony on the liberal en in— sort of an agony on the liberal en in inis— sort of an agony on the liberal left in this country for years ani— left in this country for years ant-were— left in this country for years and we're desperate left in this country for years- and _we'reidesperate to and years. we're so desperate to try and years. we're so desperate to inylaveii— and years. we're so desperate to try-avoid offending- try to avoid offending absolutely— try to avoid offending. absolutely-that try to avoid offending- absolutely-that we absolutely anybody that we ainesn— absolutely anybody that we almost-miles- absolutely anybody that we almost miles out of our way almost go miles out of our way to almost go miles out of our way as nine— almost go miles out of our way ne iina sene— almost go miles out of our way to find some group— almost go miles out of our way to find some group can't to find some group that we can't eiiena— to find some group that we can't offend—looking. offend and we end up looking snaaia— offend and we end up looking

siania ana— offend and we end up looking stupid and offending 51% of the neeaiatien— stupid and offending 51% of the population.iwhile_ stupid and offending 51% of the population. int" ti l population. while you're at it. i population. while you're at it. i ineagni— population. while you're at it. iineagni ii— population. while you're at it. i thought i'd just— population. while you're at it. i thought i'd just throw- population. int" ti l i thought i'd just throw that in population. int" ti l i tiyou ht i'd just throw that in population. int" ti l i tiyou to. 'd just throw that in population. int" ti l i tiyou to. just throw that in population. int" ti l i tiyou to. xffwcg ow that in population. int" ti l i tiyou to. xffwcg that in population. while you're at it. i tiyou to. exactly. so should for you to. exactly. so should we just do one quick story or you time? i was talking you have time? i was talking a lot about this. i'd quite like to talk about the stephen, this is your story. the express, the rwanda what's going rwanda row, what's going on here? what's here? but this is what's happening a lot of, you happening is that a lot of, you know, all know rwanda is not know, we all know rwanda is not going i mean, at the going to happen. i mean, at the eaiiiesi— going to happen. i mean, at the eaiiiesn ii— going to happen. i mean, at the earliest it could— going to happen. i mean, at the earliest it could possibly- earliest it could possibly naeeen. — earliest it could possibly naeeen. ii— earliest it could possibly happen. it should. it won't. it viii.— happen. it should. it won't. it viii. nni— happen. it should. it won't. it will. andlshould.- happen. it should. it won't. it will. and should. well, it will. and it should. well, it isn-i.— will. and it should. well, it isn-n ii-s— will. and it should. well, it isn't. it's been— will. and it should. well, it isn't. it's been tried. you knew,— isn't. it's been tried. you know,-israelis- isn't. it's been tried. you know, israelis did isn't. it's been tried. you- know,-israelis did-they know, the israelis did it. they sent—ineie- know, the israelis did it. they sent—there andi know, the israelis did it. they- sent_there and they sent 4000 people there and they disappeared— disappeared like snow in the springtime.— disappeared like snow in the springtime-the. springtime. but look, the neaiiiy— springtime. but look, the. reality—could reality is that nothing could naeeen— reality is that nothing could happen autumn reality is that nothing could- happen-autumn anyway. happen until the autumn anyway. but happen until the autumn anyway. nan ineie-s— happen until the autumn anyway. nan ineie-s a— happen until the autumn anyway. but there's a principle point nee.— but there's a principle point neie. i— but there's a principle point neie. i naeeen— but there's a principle point here. i happen think the here. i happen to think the neiiey— here. i happen to think the neiiey-viengl here. i happen to think the policy wrong. most policy is utterly wrong. most sensiieie— policy is utterly wrong. most sensible,-people- policy is utterly wrong. most sensible, people do think sensible, sane people do think it's sensible, sane people do think inis—inis— sensible, sane people do think inis—ii-slnne- it's wrong, but it's for the avi— it's wrong, but it's for the civil servants _ it's wrong, but it's for the civil servants to actually enact the legislation— civil servants to actually enact the legislation parliament civil servants to actually enact thethejislation parliament civil servants to actually enact thethe threatened parliament civil servants to actually enact thethe threatened to ’arliament civil servants to actually enact thethe threatened to goiament so the threatened to go on snike — so the threatened to go on strike because _ so the threatened to go on strike because don't agree. strike because they don't agree. i'm strike because they don't agree. in -is— strike because they don't agree. in -is snan— strike because they don't agree. i'm-is that the— strike because they don't agree. i'm _is that the story- i'm sorry. is that the story that precisely story. but that precisely the story. but you possibly that precisely the story. but you - possibly justify i that precisely the story. but. you - possibly justify you you cannot possibly justify you eannen— you cannot possibly justify you eannei nave— you cannot possibly justify you cannot havelcivil_ you cannot possibly justify you cannot have civil a cannot have a civil service, a neanai— cannot have a civil service, a neutral professional civil service— neutral professional civil service that _ neutral professional civil service that chooses and picks ani— service that chooses and picks and eneeses— service that chooses and picks and chooses, because if they're going— and chooses, because if they're geingleneese— and chooses, because if they're going choose thing, what going to choose this thing, what

naeeens— going to choose this thing, what happens something a coup? happens if something a coup? visit.— happens if something a coup? vieii. anis— happens if something a coup? vieii. this is— happens if something a coup? well, this is-a_ happens if something a coup? well, this is-a coup. - well, this is like a coup. yeah, but it's an unthink king stagin— yeah, but it's an unthink king saaeia eeie. — yeah, but it's an unthink king stupid code. _you- yeah, but it's an unthink king stupid code. you hear these stupid code. when you hear these neenie— stupid code. when you hear these eeenie—ieieie. i people talking about the blob. i resist— people talking about the blob. i resist ttat— people talking about the blob. i resist that. .reality.- people talking about the blob. i resist that. reality. there resist that. but reality. there are-evidence- resist that. but reality. there are evidence that there are certain evidence that there is a— are certain evidence that there is a tint— are certain evidence that there is a kind groupthink there is a kind of groupthink there vitnin— is a kind of groupthink there with tne— is a kind of groupthink there within the civil— is a kind of groupthink there within the civil service that is a kind of groupthink there within actually service that is a kind of groupthink there within actually completely.t would actually completely. itigtt—rignt right. they've got no right to do. _ right. they've got no right to do. completely-andl do it. completely right and actually, people have actually, lots of people have been expressing concerns for some time that there is this sort not a threat to sort of not a threat to democracy from the civil service, but their lack of neutral motty is a serious problem . and this isn't the problem. and this isn't the first time that we've seen various agencies refusing to do the will of the government when it comes to migration. if you remember, the border force refusing do job and refusing to do their job and stopping boats from coming stopping small boats from coming across but across the channel as well. but there is, i think, brewing in across the channel as well. but thercountryiink, brewing in across the channel as well. but thercountry and brewing in across the channel as well. but thercountry and it'siving in across the channel as well. but thercountry and it's thei in across the channel as well. but thercountry and it's the same this country and it's the same going back to the kathleen stock story, there is an anti—democratic sentiment that doesn't seem to be properly perceived achieved by those who are kind of pushing for it. so any civil servant that thinks we're going to rebel, we're supposed to be neutral. it's our role servants to do to

role as civil servants to do to execute the will of an elected, a democratically elected government. any civil servant that thinks, no, actually we should we, we, we should just refuse to do anything that we disagree with. they are messing with democracy . they are. and with democracy. they are. and they should be forced- it; 311i: and they should be forced out, in my vie— they should be forced out, in my stagnan— they should be forced out, in my view. stephen i— they should be forced out, in my view. stephen i was— they should be forced out, in my view. i d" view. stephen i was gonna say, should they be sacked? stephen well they're not fit for their job they? i'm sorry, if you job are they? i'm sorry, if you ten-t— job are they? i'm sorry, if you tent-year— job are they? i'm sorry, if you ten-tlyear ten— job are they? i'm sorry, if you don't-your job, you- ti g�*rij’ i'm sorry, if you don't your job, you get the don't do your job, you get the tin —exaetiy. - don't do your job, you get the tin—exactiy. - don't do your job, you get the tin _exactly. and i don't do your job, you get thei tin _exactly. and if tin tack. yeah, exactly. and if they— tin tack. yeah, exactly. and if they want— tin tack. yeah, exactly. and if they want more so as they want to even more so as a civil servant because it's their job to the will of the job to fulfil the will of the government, they should resign with this is their with honour. if this is their vie— with honour. if this is their tney— with honour. if this is their view, they should- , if this is their view, they should simply walk away— view, they should simply walk away-resigned- view, they should simply walk away resigned with away and say i resigned with nenear—ant- away and say i resigned withi honour—andlthe honour and dignity and at the genera— honour and dignity and at the general election— honour and dignity and at the general election vote against the government— general election vote against the government or for the government or stand for ettiee— the government or stand for entice—terl office yourself or stand for ettiee— - office yourself or stand for ettiee— wel office yourself or stand for. office_ we have office yourself or stand for- office_ we have to office themselves. we have to move on. more— office themselves. we have to move on. more to— office themselves. we have to move on. more to come- office themselves. �*vnini more to come in office themselves. �*vnini iii" more to come in the move on. more to come in the next— move on. more to come in the next near.— move on. more to come in the next near. ne— move on. more to come in the next hour. be back,— tit" more to come in the next hour. be back, including the next hour. be back, including tne engeing— next hour. be back, including the ongoing schofield's scandal next hour. be back, including the on gb �*ig schofield's scandal next hour. be back, including the on gb �*ig schbritain's;candal next hour. be back, including the on gb �*ig schbritain's newsil where gb news britain's news enannei. — where gb news britain's news channel. _deakinl channel. hello alex deakin here with weather update with your latest weather update from office for gb news. from the met office for gb news. some sunshine in western some warm sunshine in western areas but part of areas again today, but part of central eastern britain central and eastern britain staying dull. uv levels staying pretty dull. uv levels and pollen levels are high in

some locations and the pressure's high as well. this big area of high pressure keeping things largely dry. the cloud has thick enough for cloud has been thick enough for some conditions and some drizzly conditions and quite a time this quite damp for a time this morning over the midlands, parts of eastern england. and that's where got zone of where we've got this zone of thicker which is very thicker cloud, which is very stubborn likely stick stubborn today, likely to stick around parts of the south brightening up parts of south wales, cheering up as well. and much of the west, much of scotland, northern ireland, fine and although northern and sunny, although northern scotland grey scotland will stay pretty grey as it's grey, as well where it's grey, temperatures are going to struggle get above the struggle to get much above the low in the sunshine low teens. but in the sunshine we could again get into the mid 20s places. so a big 20s in places. so a big difference that cloud difference with that cloud sticking over the sticking around over the midlands. may ease and break midlands. it may ease and break up a little this evening, but it comes back in overnight. that cloud up, covering cloud thickening up, covering most country again by most of the country again by dawn, northern ireland dawn, again northern ireland keeping some clearer skies might turn misty here and turn a bit misty here and western scotland and that's where have lowest where we'll have the lowest temperatures. but for most, temperatures. but for most, temperatures hold up at 8 10 temperatures hold up at 8 to 10 celsius as for thursday, well, it's a similar story in that

most areas will start pretty drab. but i'm a bit more optimistic the cloud will break tomorrow over the midlands, at least of the east will least parts of the east will stay pretty grey and again, with the breeze off the sea, it will feel cold. but most places seeing skies tomorrow and seeing sunny skies tomorrow and again in that sunshine , again in that sunshine, temperatures easily getting into the low 20s 23, 24 is possible in parts of wales. it will be much cooler though on those east coasts. again with the breeze coming in from the sea. and again , that

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pretty embarrassing for sir keir starmer, isn't it? yeah let's as ever as dawn will— starmer, isn't it? yeah let's as ever as dawn will tell you, it's net— ever as dawn will tell you, it's net nnat— ever as dawn will tell you, it's net vnat ne— ever as dawn will tell you, it's not what we think— ever as dawn will tell you, it's not what we think is what you tnint. — not what we think is what you think. exactly. _ not what we think is what you think. exactly. so— not what we think is what you think. nee“; not what we think is what you think. ykirfificcgt is not what we think is what you think. , think. exactly. so let us know all your thoughts on our talking points today. email us at gb views at gb news .com. but first, here's your morning news with rory smith . that's that . with rory smith. that's that. thank you very much . don phillip thank you very much. don phillip ssnetieit— thank you very much. don phillip ssnetieit nas— thank you very much. don phillip schofield has been— thank you very much. don phillip schofield has been axed- ttig ti don phillip schofield has been axed as ttig i“ don phillip schofield has been axed as an antassater— schofield has been axed as an ambassador for— schofield has been axed as an ambassador for the prince's trust.— ambassador for the prince's irast. ine— ambassador for the prince's trust. the charity says it is no ienger— trust. the charity says it is no longer appropriate to work with tin.— longer appropriate to work with nin. neit— longer appropriate to work with nin. war, it— longer appropriate to work with him. well, it comes as mps will gritt— him. well, it comes as mps will griti iiv— him. well, it comes as mps will griti try in— him. well, it comes as mps will grill itv in parliament next treet— grill itv in parliament next week over its— grill itv in parliament next week over its handling of schofield's— week over its handling of schofield's affair with a yeanger— schofield's affair with a younger male colleague. the broadcaster— younger male colleague. the broadcaster insists it did investigate— broadcaster insists it did investigate rumours at the time, but investigate rumours at the time, tat tetn— investigate rumours at the time, but both parties— investigate rumours at the time, but both parties denied them. but but both parties denied them. eat sn— but both parties denied them. eat en tens— but both parties denied them. but gb news presenter and former this but gb news presenter and former tnis nerning— but gb news presenter and former this morning host— but gb news presenter and former this morning host eamonn holmes told this morning host eamonn holmes teit nan— this morning host eamonn holmes told dan wootton— this morning host eamonn holmes told dan wootton he feels used iniiin-s— told dan wootton he feels used over philip's coming out on the sneer— over philip's coming out on the siren . — over philip's coming out on the siren . it— over philip's coming out on the siren . it was— over philip's coming out on the show . it was all— over philip's coming out on the show . it was all a- over philip's coming out on the show . it was all a bit- over philip's coming out on the show . c c t: show. it was all a bit weird at that stage, though i believed he was gay and that's what he was

coming out and that was the information we were given. we were lied to, and ruth and i to this day embarrassed and this day are embarrassed and ashamed when we see those pictures, when we see the toils that some people who are tortured by their sexuality have tortured by their sexuality have to go through. and this man, was this a cover up for something else and something else which does not reflect well on them. of course, bearing in mind his brother is now a convicted as well. so we feel angry . rail well. so we feel angry. rail passengers are facing- g rail passengers are facing travel tisrantien— passengers are facing travel disruption amid— passengers are facing travel disruption amid strike action, witn— disruption amid strike action, nitn train— disruption amid strike action, with train companies warning servises— with train companies warning servises viii— with train companies warning services will be _ with train companies warning services will be severely reinsert— services will be severely retaset .— services will be severely reduced . eight members of the reduced. eight members of the invers— reduced. eight members of the drivers union— reduced. eight members of the drivers union aslef are striking tetay— drivers union aslef are striking tetay ant— drivers union aslef are striking tetay ant en— drivers union aslef are striking today and on saturday as well. ant— today and on saturday as well. ant tiri— today and on saturday as well. and rmt union— today and on saturday as well. and rmt union members will walk out and rmt union members will walk eat en— and rmt union members will walk eaten tritay. — and rmt union members will walk out on friday. well,— and rmt union members will walk out on friday. well, aslef generat— out on friday. well, aslef general secretary mick whelan tne— general secretary mick whelan accuses the government of not wanting— accuses the government of not wanting a— accuses the government of not wanting a resolution, but the severnnent— wanting a resolution, but the government says it has facility it a— government says it has facility it a tan— government says it has facility it a tair ant— government says it has facility it a fair and reasonable pay enter—

it a fair and reasonable pay etter .— it a fair and reasonable pay etter . nit— it a fair and reasonable pay offer . all tariffs— it a fair and reasonable pay offer . all tariffs have now been offer. all tariffs have now been rernevet— offer. all tariffs have now been removed on goods— offer. all tariffs have now been removed on goods exports from the removed on goods exports from tne tit— removed on goods exports from tne tit te— removed on goods exports from the uk to australia and new zeaiant.— the uk to australia and new zeaiant. its— the uk to australia and new zealand. it's the— the uk to australia and new zealand. it's the first trade teat— zealand. it's the first trade teat witn— zealand. it's the first trade deal with the _ zealand. it's the first trade deal with the country to come inte— deal with the country to come inte ettest— deal with the country to come into effect in— deal with the country to come into effect in a— deal with the country to come into effect in a post brexit. vegetiatien— into effect in a post brexit. negotiation shipments of british geets— negotiation shipments of british geets sasn— negotiation shipments of british geets sasn as— negotiation shipments of british goods such as signed beano seniss— goods such as signed beano seniss are— goods such as signed beano comics are among the first to be sent— comics are among the first to be sent anter— comics are among the first to be sent under the— comics are among the first to be sent under the new— comics are among the first to be sent under the new arrangements . it sent under the new arrangements . it aise— sent under the new arrangements . it aise eans— sent under the new arrangements . it also means that— sent under the new arrangements . it also means that red tape viii— . it also means that red tape viii te— . it also means that red tape will be slashed— . it also means that red tape will be slashed for digital trate— will be slashed for digital trate ant— will be slashed for digital trade and work visas. but shadow sesretary— trade and work visas. but shadow sesretary ter— trade and work visas. but shadow secretary for international irate— secretary for international irate vist— secretary for international trade nick thomas—symonds says the trade nick thomas—symonds says tne teat— trade nick thomas—symonds says tne teat is— trade nick thomas—symonds says tne teat is net— trade nick thomas—symonds says the deal is not clear— trade nick thomas—symonds says the deal is not clear on the experts. — the deal is not clear on the experts. it— the deal is not clear on the exports. it can— the deal is not clear on the exports. it can help deliver an economic boost— exports. it can help deliver an economic boost if— exports. it can help deliver an economic boost if the government is viiiing— economic boost if the government is viiiing te— economic boost if the government is willing to actually support our is willing to actually support eveerters— is willing to actually support our exporters properly. �*" our exporters properly. if you teet— our exporters properly. if you test at— our exporters properly. if you test at tne— our exporters properly. if you look at the moment this year, 2023, the obr is saying that exports overall will fall by 6.6. that's a hit of over £51 billion to the economy . enemy billion to the economy. enemy customers on prepayment metres are being urged to avoid missing

out on £400 worth of support with their energy bills as all households were eligible for the government's energy bills support scheme , which was paid support scheme, which was paid in six instalments over the winter. but in six instalments over the winter . but with £130 million winter. but with £130 million stit— winter. but with £130 million still available _ winter. but with £130 million still available to— but with £130 million still available to be claimed, neaseneits— still available to be claimed, households are— still available to be claimed, households are being urged to ete— households are being urged to redeem their— households are being urged to redeem their vouchers before the teatiine— redeem their vouchers before the teatiine en— redeem their vouchers before the deadline on the— redeem their vouchers before the deadline on the 30th of june. vett— deadline on the 30th of june. well, meanwhile— deadline on the 30th of june. well, meanwhile , families on well, meanwhile, families on universai— well, meanwhile, families on universal credit— well, meanwhile, families on universal credit are set to get neig— universal credit are set to get more help with— universal credit are set to get more help with child care costs tren— more help with child care costs tren tne— more help with child care costs tren tne ent— more help with child care costs from the end of— more help with child care costs from the end of june . the from the end of june. the eeeannent— from the end of june. the department for- from the end of june. the department for work and pensions says— department for work and pensions says tnese— department for work and pensions says those eligible— department for work and pensions says those eligible will be able to says those eligible will be able te stain — says those eligible will be able to claim back— says those eligible will be able to claim back up— says those eligible will be able to claim back up to £951 for one snit— to claim back up to £951 for one sniit ant— to claim back up to £951 for one child and £1,630— to claim back up to £951 for one child and £1,630 for two or more sniitren— child and £1,630 for two or more sniitren .— child and £1,630 for two or more children . that's— child and £1,630 for two or more children . that's a— child and £1,630 for two or more children . that's a rise of 47% children. that's a rise of 47% tren— children. that's a rise of 47% tren tne— children. that's a rise of 47% from the previous— children. that's a rise of 47% from the previous limits . a from the previous limits. a name— from the previous limits. a former russian— from the previous limits. a former russian president warns tnat— former russian president warns tnat tit— former russian president warns tnat tit natiis— former russian president warns that uk public officials that sateen— that uk public officials that support ukraine are legitimate nititary— support ukraine are legitimate military targets— support ukraine are legitimate military targets .— support ukraine are legitimate military targets . dmitry military targets. dmitry medvedev, _ military targets. dmitry medvedev, who is now a deputy snairnan— medvedev, who is now a deputy snairnan et— medvedev, who is now a deputy chairman of the— medvedev, who is now a deputy chairman of the kremlin security sensit— chairman of the kremlin security seansii, says— chairman of the kremlin security

council, says any— chairman of the kremlin security council, says any uk military aid council, says any uk military ait te— council, says any uk military ait te kyiv— council, says any uk military aid to kyiv represents an undeclared— aid to kyiv represents an undeclared war against russia. satis— undeclared war against russia. satis ter— undeclared war against russia. calls for british _ undeclared war against russia. calls for british officials goofy— calls for british officials geety ant — calls for british officials geety ant an — calls for british officials goofy and an eternal enemy . he goofy and an eternal enemy. he says— goofy and an eternal enemy. he says tnat— goofy and an eternal enemy. he says that under— goofy and an eternal enemy. he says that under the hague and seeva— says that under the hague and geneva conventions, the uk can be considered— geneva conventions, the uk can be considered a— geneva conventions, the uk can be considered a country at war. tenn— be considered a country at war. vertn terea— be considered a country at war. north korea made— be considered a country at war. north korea made a failed attempt— north korea made a failed attempt at— north korea made a failed attempt at launching its first spy attempt at launching its first spy sateitite— attempt at launching its first spy sateitite .— attempt at launching its first spy satellite . the launch spy satellite. the launch seartet— spy satellite. the launch seartet a— spy satellite. the launch sparked a false alarm, which it tast— sparked a false alarm, which it inst neart— sparked a false alarm, which it inst neart in— sparked a false alarm, which it just heard in south korean sanitat— just heard in south korean sanitai et— just heard in south korean capital of seoul. while in japa"v_ capital of seoul. while in japan a— capital of seoul. while in japan, a warning was issued to resitents— japan, a warning was issued to resitents in— japan, a warning was issued to residents in the— japan, a warning was issued to residents in the south. the insitent— residents in the south. the incident comes— residents in the south. the incident comes as north korea announced earlier— incident comes as north korea announced earlier that a plan to iaansn— announced earlier that a plan to iaansn a— announced earlier that a plan to launch a satellite— announced earlier that a plan to launch a satellite by the 11th of launch a satellite by the 11th er june— launch a satellite by the 11th et iane te— launch a satellite by the 11th of june to monitor us military astivities. — of june to monitor us military activities. it— of june to monitor us military activities. it now— of june to monitor us military activities. it now says it will attempt— activities. it now says it will attempt a— activities. it now says it will attempt a second launch as soon as nessitie— attempt a second launch as soon as nessitie .— attempt a second launch as soon as possible , while— attempt a second launch as soon as possible , while longer as possible, while longer terries— as possible, while longer terries et— as possible, while longer lorries of up— as possible, while longer lorries of up to 18m in length are lorries of up to 18m in length attevet— lorries of up to 18m in length are allowed on— lorries of up to 18m in length are allowed on uk roads from

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andrew and dawn. i seet— andrew and dawn. i good morning. i andrew and dawn. good morning. welcome back to itv. bosses will face questions from mps over how much they knew of phillip schofield affair following lover following claims that his lover was off the broadcaster. was paid off by the broadcaster. just won't go away, will it? the daily mail. my paper says the the daily mail. my paper says tne yevnger— the daily mail. my paper says the younger man— the daily mail. my paper says the younger man received a tinansiai— the younger man received a financial settlement from the snannei— financial settlement from the snannei-as— financial settlement from the channel-as.left- financial settlement from the channel as left the channel before as he left the eregranne— channel before as he left the eregranne .— channel before as he left the eregranne , ne— channel before as he left the programme , he left the station ? programme, he left the station? vean— programme, he left the station? yeah, absolutely. _ programme, he left the station? yeah, absolutely. .it�*~ti.ti;.ii“in“ yeah, absolutely. meanwhile, former itv presenter and gb news host eamonn holmes says he felt used and lied to by philip. well we're not going to talk politics with christopher hope, who's the associate editor at the daily telegraph. chris broke the story attent— telegraph. chris broke the story ateat iiv— telegraph. chris broke the story about itv head— g chris broke the story about itv head honchos being sarnrnenet te— about itv head honchos being summoned to parliament, and he teins— summoned to parliament, and he teins as— summoned to parliament, and he teins as nev— summoned to parliament, and he joins us now. chris,— summoned to parliament, and he joins us now. chris, this will be nerning— joins us now. chris, this will be morning to— joins us now. chris, this will be morning to you. chris, this viii— be morning to you. chris, this viii te— be morning to you. chris, this viii be a— be morning to you. chris, this viii be a tig— be morning to you. chris, this will be a big moment for them. ineir— will be a big moment for them. ineir tneir— will be a big moment for them. their their ostensibly to talk attent— their their ostensibly to talk about legislation and media tits— about legislation and media titis ant— about legislation and media bills and broadcasting bills.

nat— bills and broadcasting bills. eat vnat-s— bills and broadcasting bills. but what's been going on at itv vitn— but what's been going on at itv vitn stea— but what's been going on at itv with clear evidence now of an apparent— with clear evidence now of an apparent sve— with clear evidence now of an apparent cover up. will be the teninant— apparent cover up. will be the dominant issue— apparent cover up. will be the dominant issue .— apparent cover up. will be the dominant issue . yes, it will. dominant issue. yes, it will. i tiers-s— dominant issue. yes, it will. i mean, there's a— dominant issue. yes, it will. i mean, there's a problem.- dominant issue. yes, it will. i mean, there's a problem. it's a session with channel 4 and channel five. andrew and dawn. and they're looking at the draft media bill. not something which would normally trouble shouldn't trouble gb news viewers in the same way this might but because of what's going on in phillip schofield this redundancy money paid out to this this individual by the corporation . that's by the corporation. that's money. that's money going where is it going? what are the answers? as you raise there? andrew there will be questions raised now as things stand. this is next tuesday morning, raised now as things stand. this is next tuesday morning , 10 a.m. is next tuesday morning, 10 a.m. get the popcorn in. live tv grilling of an executive from itv. the problem that the mps might find irritating is that they're going to. itv are putting forward a guy called magnus brooke, who's the group director of strategy policy and regulation, itv for the session.

that was all very well when they were going to be discussing the draft media bill. but given this is now discussing the prime time , the flagship programme on itv , mps might wonder whether this person is the right person to appean person is the right person to appear. his direct line manager, someone called dame carolyn mccall. she's the chief executive and is her upon all upon whom all these questions are aimed . she won't be going as are aimed. she won't be going as things stand, and that might make them more and more noise than ever. chris that's a very interesting because i understand that select committees have the power to compel a witness to appear before them. so if the select committee _ appear before them. so if the select committee of- ti so if the select committee of mps say, i'm serry— select committee of mps say, i'm serry .— select committee of mps say, i'm serry , ve— select committee of mps say, i'm serry , ve ten-t— select committee of mps say, i'm sorry , we don't want— select committee of mps say, i'm sorry , we don't want some boring sorry, we don't want some boring neat— sorry, we don't want some boring neat-strategy— sorry, we don't want some boring head-strategy or— sorry, we don't want some boring head strategy or whatever it head of strategy or whatever it is, head of strategy or whatever it is we — head of strategy or whatever it is we _tne — head of strategy or whatever it is, we-the chief- head of strategy or whatever it is, we the chief executive is, we want the chief executive vnere— is, we want the chief executive vnere tne — is, we want the chief executive where the buck— is, we want the chief executive where the buck stops at the top, surety— where the buck stops at the top, surety-nave— where the buck stops at the top, surety-navelge- where the buck stops at the top, surely-havelgo to. - surely she'll have to go to. vet— surely she'll have to go to. vet tnat-s— surely she'll have to go to. well that's right. i think tiers-s— well that's right. i think tiers-s a— well that's right. i think there's a high risk game being played here. itv are trying to carry on a kind of business as usual approach by sending over this this he's a board director, but he's not the top person and

he's only only given this big role. last october . well, after role. last october. well, after all, all the things we're discussing on the programme had finished and now the risks they've got here is if the mps feel they're not being respected, not receiving respected, they're not receiving the right person to answer the questions, clear questions, given the clear indications they will raise these issues as part of the session . if they're not being session. if they're not being given the respect they deserve, they are risking a full scale inquiry. and that's a real problem for itv if that happens. and just. and christopher. sareiyn— and just. and christopher. carolyn mccall,— and just. and christopher. carolyn mccall, i- ' “t: and christopher. carolyn mccall, i mean, she is sne-s— carolyn mccall, i mean, she is sne-s very— carolyn mccall, i mean, she is sne-s very .— carolyn mccall, i mean, she is sne-s very , very— carolyn mccall, i mean, she is she's very , very powerful, she's very, very powerful, tneagn.— she's very, very powerful, though. she's— she's very, very powerful, though. she's the one that oversaw the _ though. she's the one that oversaw the jeremy kyle leaving the oversaw the jeremy kyle leaving tne statien. — oversaw the jeremy kyle leaving the station. piers— oversaw the jeremy kyle leaving the station. piers morgan ieaving— the station. piers morgan ieaving tne— the station. piers morgan leaving the station. this was all leaving the station. this was ait en— leaving the station. this was at en ner— leaving the station. this was all on her watch. _ leaving the station. this was all on her watch. and now initia— all on her watch. and now phillip schofield has exploded, nasn-t— phillip schofield has exploded, nasn-t ite— phillip schofield has exploded, hasn't it? the— phillip schofield has exploded, hasn't it? the whole story has eveietet— hasn't it? the whole story has eveietet .— hasn't it? the whole story has exploded . and— hasn't it? the whole story has exploded . and so— hasn't it? the whole story has exploded . and so surely she exploded. and so surely she sneait— exploded. and so surely she sneait te— exploded. and so surely she should be there.— exploded. and so surely she should be there. she is the one tnat— should be there. she is the one tnat sneait— should be there. she is the one that should be— should be there. she is the one that should be answering all tnese— that should be answering all these questions.— that should be answering all these questions. well you nentienet— these questions. well you mentioned jeremy kyle there. ti mentioned jeremy kyle there. he , of mentioned jeremy kyle there. he . et is— mentioned jeremy kyle there. he , of course, is at— mentioned jeremy kyle there. he , of course, is at a— mentioned jeremy kyle there. he , of course, is at a different- , of course, is at a different station now. but back in 2019, the same committee launched an inquiry into reality television

after the death of a guest following a filming on jeremy kyle's itv programme. and the deaths of two former contestants on love island. the point is, these mps under a different chairman, admittedly, and maybe a different group of mps, although some will be the same and have looked before at duty of care towards people. and that's the point. that's the politics here is the duty of care towards an individual who is met when a when reportedly reportedly a child at theatre school by phillip schofield then given opportunities on the programme. no illegality here. that's being said very clearly by phillip schofield. no one's saying there is, but there could be an issue of duty of care and who is who is joining the programme, who's working there and who's looking after their interests. because someone that youngis interests. because someone that young is a child in my eyes. interests. because someone that young is a child in my eyes . and young is a child in my eyes. and if that was the age, if that was the age, if that was proven to be the age when phillip schofield met him, there were issues. think this is going to issues. i think this is going to be chris, because was talking

be chris, because i was talking earlier, and i used to cross earlier, you and i used to cross swords with alastair campbell when blair's pugnacious when he was blair's pugnacious communications chief. and he always had a rule,— communications chief. and he always had a rule, didn't- i “ {f�*c i“ and he always had a rule, didn't he? if always had a rule, didn't he? if a minister— always had a rule, didn't he? if a minister or— always had a rule, didn't he? if a minister or an— always had a rule, didn't he? if a minister or an mp is in treatie— a minister or an mp is in trouble and— a minister or an mp is in trouble and it's- a minister or an mp is in trouble and it's been a front page— trouble and it's been a front gage-sten— trouble and it's been a front gage-stery en- trouble and it's been a front page story on the broadcast page top story on the broadcast ter— page top story on the broadcast ter we, — page top story on the broadcast news for five, six,— page top story on the broadcast news for five, six, seven days, tney-ve— news for five, six, seven days, tney-ve get— news for five, six, seven days, tney-ve get te— news for five, six, seven days, tney-ve get te ge— news for five, six, seven days, they've got to go now. this is treating— they've got to go now. this is treating att— they've got to go now. this is breaking all records, isn't it? initia— breaking all records, isn't it? phillip schofield itv . and phillip schofield and itv. and it's phillip schofield and itv. and its geing— phillip schofield and itv. and its geing te— phillip schofield and itv. and it's going to ensure this runs all it's going to ensure this runs at tne— it's going to ensure this runs at tne vay— it's going to ensure this runs all the way through the sunday papers— all the way through the sunday pagers ant— all the way through the sunday eaeers ant next— all the way through the sunday papers and next tuesday, as you say,— papers and next tuesday, as you say-te— papers and next tuesday, as you say-te te— papers and next tuesday, as you say,-to be required. say, it's going to be required vieving— say, it's going to be required vieving . — say, it's going to be required viewing . well,— say, it's going to be required viewing . well, it- say, it's going to be required viewing . �*itnit�*ticc c cc c cc viewing. well, it will be. it'll be it'll be a popcorn moment and normally this kind of thing affects the bbc. andrew and dawn not really itv, it's not funded the same way is it's funded through advertising . we're through advertising. we're seeing, of course, suggestions arnold clark, which sponsors this morning is reviewing its its relationship with the programme , whether other programme, whether other advertisers feel the same way, we don't know yet, but i think there is a feeling here that it's not enough to say that phillip schofield is gone. what next and did itv know? and next and what did itv know? and there a degree duty of

there was a degree of duty of care towards people and that's where mps will get really fired up feel they're not up if they feel they're not given getting right given the getting the right answers person who answers from what a person who could a junior person could be a junior person compared to person next compared to the top person next week, it might get before week, it might get worse before it gets better for itv. christopher can i just ask i mean, you, sir, obviously political heavyweights compared to me. what happens if it's not tittisaite— to me. what happens if it's not tittisaite ny— to me. what happens if it's not difficult? by the— what happens if it's not difficult? by the way, what naeeens— difficult? by the way, what naeeens it— difficult? by the way, what happens if someone lies to the sennittee— happens if someone lies to the sennittee e— happens if someone lies to the committee ? yeah.— happens if someone lies to the committee ? yeah. what is the committee? yeah. what is the eenaity— committee? yeah. what is the eenaity tney— committee? yeah. what is the penalty they pay— committee? yeah. what is the penalty they pay for that ? penalty they pay for that? visit. — penalty they pay for that? visit. yea — penalty they pay for that? war. yea ar— penalty they pay for that? well, you are then- penalty they pay for that? well, you are then in- penalty they pay for that? well, you are then in contempt of the house of commons. the house of commons is has- the house of commons is has the same status— house of commons is has the same status as— house of commons is has the same status as a— house of commons is has the same status as a seen.— house of commons is has the same status as a court. so— house of commons is has the same status as a court. so you're in sentennt— status as a court. so you're in sentennt et— status as a court. so you're in contempt of the— status as a court. so you're in contempt of the court of the sernrnens— contempt of the court of the commons and— contempt of the court of the commons and you can be called to aeeiegise— commons and you can be called to aeeiegise er— commons and you can be called to aeeiegise er te— commons and you can be called to apologise or to or— commons and you can be called to apologise or to or to— commons and you can be called to apologise or to or to appear again. — apologise or to or to appear again. et— apologise or to or to appear again. of course— apologise or to or to appear again. of course you can be made to again. of course you can be made te svear— again. of course you can be made to swear on a bible.— again. of course you can be made to swear on a bible. if you remember boris- to swear on a bible. if you remember boris johnson most resentiy— remember boris johnson most resentiyvnen— remember boris johnson most recently when he _ remember boris johnson most recently when he gave evidence to recently when he gave evidence te tne— recently when he gave evidence to the privileges— recently when he gave evidence to the privileges committee attent— to the privileges committee about partygate, remember that he about partygate, remember that ne severe— about partygate, remember that he swore on a bible. that's a bit he swore on a bible. that's a tit et— he swore on a bible. that's a bit of theatre,— he swore on a bible. that's a bit of theatre, but— he swore on a bible. that's a bit of theatre, but it's meant to bit of theatre, but it's meant

te tests— bit of theatre, but it's meant te tesas tne— bit of theatre, but it's meant to focus the mind of the person giving— to focus the mind of the person giving evidence— to focus the mind of the person giving evidence that they have to giving evidence that they have te tetr— giving evidence that they have te teii tne— giving evidence that they have to tell the truth— giving evidence that they have to tell the truth and respect iris— to tell the truth and respect tits ant— to tell the truth and respect mps and respect parliament. mowi— mps and respect parliament. nev. strin— mps and respect parliament. now, chris, can— mps and respect parliament. now, chris, can we— mps and respect parliament. now, chris, can we ask- mps and respect parliament. now, chris, can we ask you about another story that i think you've broken another good story. is dale vince. now story. this is dale vince. now he is a green entrepreneur who has has given a lot of to money just stop oil, an organisation that drives most people who watch gb news and listen to gb news completely crackers as he's also given a million and a half pounds to the labour party, which the tory party say, and with some justification in my view, means we know where the labour party is on the side of not not the protesters or on the side of protesters rather side of the protesters rather than the people who are trying to go about daily to go about their daily business. there's business. now i gather there's been a development in that story that. that's right. we're nearing— that. that's right. we're hearing from _ that's right. we're hearing from just stop oil this nerning— hearing from just stop oil this nerning-naie— hearing from just stop oil this morning dale vince morning that dale vince is ettering— morning that dale vince is ettering te— morning that dale vince is offering to anyone who makes a tenatien— offering to anyone who makes a tenatien te— offering to anyone who makes a donation to just— offering to anyone who makes a donation to just stop oil. dale vinse— donation to just stop oil. dale vinse viii— donation to just stop oil. dale vince will match— donation to just stop oil. dale vince will match it so i think ne-s— vince will match it so i think ne-s vnat— vince will match it so i think he's what what— vince will match it so i think he's what what you might call teatiing— he's what what you might call doubling down.— he's what what you might call doubling down. andrew, on the sritisisn — doubling down. andrew, on the criticism from _ doubling down. andrew, on the criticism from the— doubling down. andrew, on the criticism from the right over his

criticism from the right over nis sateen— criticism from the right over nis sateen et— criticism from the right over his support of just stop oil and of course the— his support of just stop oil and of course the labour party and saying— of course the labour party and saying as— of course the labour party and saying as ve— of course the labour party and saying as we understand it, give neney te— saying as we understand it, give more money to just stop oil i viii— more money to just stop oil i viii teatie— more money to just stop oil i will double that— more money to just stop oil i will double that that amount and that will double that that amount and tnat—tnat-s- that will just he's that's reaiiy— that will just he's that's really thumbing his nose to the old really thumbing his nose to the eit iangvage— really thumbing his nose to the eit iangvage at— really thumbing his nose to the old language at his critics . old language at his critics. i geing— old language at his critics. i geing te— old language at his critics. i was going to say,— old language at his critics. i was going to say, do- old language at his critics. i was going to say, do you think that's going to make the pressure now for labour to give the money back? well, i think iatear— the money back? well, i think iatear ant— the money back? well, i think labour and .stop - the money back? well, i think labour and .stop oil. - labour and just stop oil. i mean, there— labour and just stop oil. i mean, there are- labour and just stop oil. i mean, there are definitely gvestiens— mean, there are definitely questions to— mean, there are definitely questions to be asked there tesase— questions to be asked there because people— questions to be asked there because people are trying get because people are trying to get attent— because people are trying to get ateat—tel because people are trying to get atete—tel because people are trying to get abo to work—to. because people are trying to get abo to work. we'll to because people are trying to get abo to work. we'll wonder to because people are trying to get abo to work. we'll wonder why a get to work. we'll wonder why a rnrate— get to work. we'll wonder why a rnrate eeiitisai— get to work. we'll wonder why a major political party is accepting— major political party is accepting money from a donor who so accepting money from a donor who se-sannerts— accepting money from a donor who so supports somebody accepting money from a donor who so is supports somebody accepting money from a donor who so is tryingsupports somebody accepting money from a donor who so is trying t0iports somebody accepting money from a donor who so is trying to frustrate nebody accepting money from a donor who so is trying to frustrate theiriy who is trying to frustrate their vert. — who is trying to frustrate their vert. _tne — who is trying to frustrate their work.-the irony,- who is trying to frustrate their work. the irony, of work. i mean, the irony, of course, is that— work. i mean, the irony, of course, is that labour do win course, is that if labour do win tne— course, is that if labour do win tne-etestien— course, is that if labour do win the-election, they- course, is that if labour do win the election, they have the next election, they have a pian— the next election, they have a nian ter— the next election, they have a eian terltasn— the next election, they have a plan forl dash for— the next election, they have a plan for dash for green, which plan for a dash for green, which is vnisn— plan for a dash for green, which is vnisn viii— plan for a dash for green, which is which will hear— plan for a dash for green, which is which will hear a lot more plan for a dash for green, which is whittheiill hear a lot more plan for a dash for green, which is whitthe way,3ar a lot more plan for a dash for green, which is whitthe way, in a lot more plan for a dash for green, which is whitthe way, in the )t more plan for a dash for green, which is whitthe way, in the nextyre of, by the way, in the next yeas— of, by the way, in the next year's general— of, by the way, in the next year's general election. they're going— year's general election. they're geing-ant— year's general election. they're going-and carpet- year's general election. they're going and carpet the going to try and carpet the seantry— going to try and carpet the sevntry vitn— going to try and carpet the country with with a lot more vintniits— country with with a lot more windmills they're going windmills and they're going to try-witn— windmills and they're going to try-vitn ant- windmills and they're going to try with and maybe try and deal with and maybe tring— try and deal with and maybe bring-er- try and deal with and maybe bring or certainly bring an end to or certainly teet— bring an end to or certainly teet at— bring an end to or certainly look at kerbing_ bring an end to or certainly look at kerbing offshore oil and gas nretvstien— look at kerbing offshore oil and gas production and that's where it's gas production and that's where its-i— gas production and that's where its-i tnint— it's going. so i think ironically,- it's going. so i think ironically, may actually ironically, it may actually tanage— ironically, it may actually tanage tne— ironically, it may actually damage the case of labour if

tnis— damage the case of labour if tnis-is— damage the case of labour if this-is still— damage the case of labour if this-is still to- damage the case of labour if this-is still to be- damage the case of labour if this is still to be to be this link is still to be to be tnis— this link is still to be to be seen this is— this link is still to be to be seen this is the— this link is still to be to be seen this is the same labour iatear— seen this is the same labour iatear party— seen this is the same labour labour party that want to build tne— labour party that want to build tne green— labour party that want to build over the green belt as well. tight.— over the green belt as well. tigtt. that-s— over the green belt as well. right. that's the— over the green belt as well. right. that's the one.- over the green belt as well. right. that's the one. okay. well they'll they, say on well they'll they, they say on the bits not not the the scrubby bits not not the beautiful bits. oh right. okay. yeah. green belts. green belt. yes. as yeah. green belts. green belt. ves. as tenn— yeah. green belts. green belt. yes. as john prescott- yeah. green belts. green belt. yes. as john prescott ,- / cititi“ green belt. yes. as john prescott , as john yes. as john prescott, as john tressett— yes. as john prescott, as john prescott famously— yes. as john prescott, as john prescott famously said, it's one of_achievementsl of the greatest achievements tnat—taiitl of the greatest achievementsj that—built on that labour has ever built on tne— that labour has ever built on tne-neit— that labour has ever built on the-belt. chris- that labour has ever built on the belt. chris hope the green belt. chris hope ieveiy—nel the green belt. chris hopei ieveiy—ne is the green belt. chris hope- lovely_ he is the lovely to talk to you. he is the neiitisai— lovely to talk to you. he is the political editor— lovely to talk to you. he is the political editor of— lovely to talk to you. he is the political editor of politics at ine— political editor of politics at the _telegraph. - political editor of politics at the telegraph. of the daily telegraph. and of course,_here. l the daily telegraph. and of course,_here. i the daily telegraph. and of- course,_here. he's course, he's coming here. he's ieveiy— course, he's coming here. he's ieveiy. .very— course, he's coming here. he's lovely-very nice. he's. lovely. he's very nice. he's very nice. also joining- ti tig “ ti.ti he's very nice. also joining us now tnis— very nice. also joining us now tnis nerning— very nice. also joining us now this morning former this morning is the former ernrnersisai— this morning is the former commercial director at itv. ian tissaiiesn.— commercial director at itv. ian mcculloch. ian,— commercial director at itv. ian mcculloch. ian, morning. i veaitn-t— mcculloch. ian, morning. i wouldn't want— mcculloch. ian, morning. i wouldn't want be in your wouldn't want to be in your snees— wouldn't want to be in your sneeslyea— wouldn't want to be in your. shoes .you _current shoes if you were the current ernrnersisai— shoes if you were the current commercial director itv, commercial director at itv, tesase— commercial director at itv, because advertisers commercial director at itv,- because-advertisers and because i'm sure advertisers and sponsors-becoming- because i'm sure advertisers and sponsors becoming very sponsors are becoming very neervas— sponsors are becoming very nervous now about the continued taiteat— nervous now about the continued taiteat tren — nervous now about the continued fallout from the _ nervous now about the continued fallout from the phillip schofield _ fallout from the phillip schofield controversy . “g schofield controversy. morning i'm schofield controversy. morning in net— schofield controversy. morning in net se— schofield controversy. morning i'm not so sure. i think um, from an advertisers point of view, they buy the programme . so view, they buy the programme. so i think if phillip and holly are no longer there, the programme

runs on, i suspect ratings are probably going up as people want to watch the unfolding car crash . um, but actually the, you know, it reaches people . it's know, it reaches people. it's a great show. they've just let it go off the rails . so i think if go off the rails. so i think if itv can detach what's going on from the programme itself, i'm not sure advertisers will be that fast . there was a former that fast. there was a former etiter— that fast. there was a former etiter et— that fast. there was a former editor of daytime— there was a former editor of daytime television, diane— editor of daytime television, diane nelmes,_ editor of daytime television, diane nelmes, wrote this week, i ten-t— diane nelmes, wrote this week, i ten-t tnev— diane nelmes, wrote this week, i ten-t knew it— diane nelmes, wrote this week, i don't know if you— diane nelmes, wrote this week, i don't know if you saw it, ian, tnat— don't know if you saw it, ian, tnat sne— don't know if you saw it, ian, that she said— don't know if you saw it, ian, that she said the— don't know if you saw it, ian, that she said the programme is tetaiiy— that she said the programme is now totally shipwrecked and sneait— now totally shipwrecked and sneait te— now totally shipwrecked and should be sunk— now totally shipwrecked and should be sunk and they should an— should be sunk and they should an vitn— should be sunk and they should come up with something seneieteiy— come up with something completely different and eretatiy— completely different and probably holly should move on to senetning— probably holly should move on to something different. holly viitevgnty— something different. holly willoughby, course is willoughby, who of course is very— willoughby, who of course is very associated— willoughby, who of course is very associated with phillip ssnetieit— very associated with phillip schofield-yeah- very associated with phillip schofield yeah , saw what schofield and yeah, saw what diane— schofield and yeah, saw what i>iane vrete— schofield and yeah, saw what diane wrote . _ schofield and yeah, saw what diane wrote . i— schofield and yeah, saw what diane wrote . c. : diane wrote. i used to work with her. i don't agree. i think the show is fine. i do absolutely agree that none of the on screen talent well, those two cannot be associated with the show. she's damaged goods . they need a fresh

damaged goods. they need a fresh start. i'm not sure that the talent that they've got sort of running through at the minute is the right talent. but i think the right talent. but i think the show is a good show, but you certainly can't have those two there. there is so much more to come out in this story. there. there is so much more to come out in this story . and i come out in this story. and i don't think her statements are particularly plausible . so it particularly plausible. so it looks as though she's clinging on. i think they need to make a clean and just move the show on how damaging and do you think the select committee appearance next week could be for itv as a whole ? absolutely . i think it's whole? absolutely. ithink it's i mean, it's unhelpful . they itv i mean, it's unhelpful. they itv deliberately has not performed well in this . i'm not sure why well in this. i'm not sure why it needs an itv. sorry a parliamentary select committee to grill them. i mean, given what's going on in the world, should this really be occupying parliament as well? ian, if i can parliament as well? ian, if i interrupt— parliament as well? ian, if i can interrupt you— zitiit , ian, if i

can interrupt you there. ian, tney— can interrupt you there. ian, tney vee— can interrupt you there. ian, they were due _ can interrupt you there. ian, they were due to - can interrupt you there. ian, they were due to go this was ieng— they were due to go this was ieng. inis— they were due to go this was long. this was— they were due to go this was long. this was booked long ago, teng— long. this was booked long ago, ieng tetere— long. this was booked long ago, long before the— long. this was booked long ago, long before the philip schofield senreversty— long before the philip schofield controversy. they— long before the philip schofield controversy. they were there to tatt— controversy. they were there to tait attent— controversy. they were there to talk about legislation affecting netia— talk about legislation affecting netia ant— talk about legislation affecting media and broadcast companies, but media and broadcast companies, tat tesase— media and broadcast companies, but because of— media and broadcast companies, but because of all— media and broadcast companies, but because of all this has tievn— but because of all this has tievn an— but because of all this has blown up that— but because of all this has blown up that schofield will be a tig— blown up that schofield will be a tig ean— blown up that schofield will be a tig pan et— blown up that schofield will be atig pan et tne— blown up that schofield will be a big part of the conversation on a big part of the conversation en next— a big part of the conversation on next tuesday— a big part of the conversation on next tuesday . ii/titii“ a big part of the conversation on next tuesday . ii/tiii“ i“ a big part of the conversation on next tuesday . ii/titii“ i“ on next tuesday. yeah, which is unfortunate. so that's bad timing. i thought they'd been sort of hauled in front of the headmaster for being naughty , headmaster for being naughty, but i mean if it was a pre booked gig, it will be an annoying sideline for what they would want to try and get across. itv is a great brand . tv across. itv is a great brand. tv as a medium is fantastic. there's nothing that replace , is there's nothing that replace, is it? this is about governance. it's about creative governance . it's about creative governance. refreshing shows, not creating monsters that you then can't control. and that's, you know , control. and that's, you know, we've seen it in so many shows as it's happened again , the as it's happened again, the creative control isn't there. they haven't refreshed the show. um we've got it in peak time with itv where you can see some

shows are starting to look tired and they need resting, i think from the public's point of view, this almost looks like an episode of love island. you put a bunch of egomaniacs together there and see what's going to explode and over time this has exploded. but this could easily be big brother or love island in the way that it's unfolded. and i think people are enjoying being watching the mighty fall. um, and they've gone from living in a gilded cage to actually opposed and you sort of see people for what they really are, which is i think there's a fascination in the public watching it happen . i think watching it happen. i think you're right. it's— watching it happen. i think you're right. it's like,- i “g c i think you're right. it's like, yeah. ian— you're right. it's like, yeah. ian mcculloch,_ you're right. it's like, yeah. ian mcculloch, former- you're right. it's like, yeah. ian mcculloch, former itv commercial director, thank you very much for joining commercial director, thank you very much forjoining us commercial director, thank you very much for joining us this morning. it is like driving down the motorway and seeing an accident on the other side. and you you don't want to be interested. you don't want to look, it's human look, but you do. it's human nature. and even if you nature. sorry and even if you ten-t— nature. sorry and even if you ten-t vatsn— ti and even if you don't watch programmes, they are sasn— don't watch programmes, they are

sasn-tnevn— don't watch programmes, they are such - known people - don't watch programmes, they are such known people . yes, such well known people. yes, atseiateiy. — such well known people. yes, absolutely. dancing on ice and etter— absolutely. dancing on ice and other programmes in your living room. _advertise- room. doesn't she advertise a setting— room. doesn't she advertise a clothing brand?— room. doesn't she advertise a clothing brand? yes, she does. year.— clothing brand? yes, she does. vean. it— clothing brand? yes, she does. vean. it tees— clothing brand? yes, she does. yeah. it does make— clothing brand? yes, she does. yeah. it does make you- clothing brand? yes, she does. yeah. it does make you wonder, doesn't it? because you can't look at holly's very beautiful face seeing phillip face without seeing phillip schofield. face without seeing phillip schofitstill to come, vladimir right. still to come, vladimir putin has accused ukraine of trying to frighten russians. we'll tell you why next. you're with

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through until 7:00 this evening. gb news is the people's . channel gb news is the people's. channel seet— gb news is the people's. channel eeet morning.— gb news is the people's. channel eeet morning. it— gb news is the people's. channel good morning. it is— gb news is the people's. channel good morning. it is 1124— gb news is the people's. channel good morning. it is 1124 and- good morning. it is 1124 and you're with andrew pierce and me. dawn neesom on gb news to the point now that former russian president dmitri medvedev, i think i pronounce it right, has warned british politicians and military leaders they're now legitimate military targets. medvedev, who is chair of russia's security council , of russia's security council, claimed the uk support for ukraine amounted to an undeclared war against russia. of course, he is a key ally of viatinir— of course, he is a key ally of vladimir putin,— of course, he is a key ally of vladimir putin, who is a war srininai— vladimir putin, who is a war criminal and— vladimir putin, who is a war criminal and a— vladimir putin, who is a war criminal and a crook. vladimir putin, who is a war criminal and a crook . foreign criminal and a crook. foreign sesretary— criminal and a crook. foreign secretary james— criminal and a crook. foreign secretary james cleverly says it's legitimate— secretary james cleverly says it's legitimate for ukraine to attast— it's legitimate for ukraine to attack targets— it's legitimate for ukraine to attack targets outside its own terters— attack targets outside its own terters as— attack targets outside its own borders as part— attack targets outside its own borders as part of its self tetense. — borders as part of its self defence. ah,— borders as part of its self defence. ' “ ”g“ [3ng tijitc. ” defence. ah, right. okay. our security editor , thank god, is security editor, thank god, is with us this morning to explain what's going on. mark white, thank you very much for joining us. what's happening, mark? well this comes against a backdrop in recent days and weeks of drone attacks that have been striking into russia itself, including right in the heart of russia, in

moscow just yesterday, of course, overnight , moscow just yesterday, of course, overnight, right, there was eight drones that were attacked and taken down before they could reach their targets. and exploded over quite an antigen— and exploded over quite an affluent but— and exploded over quite an affluent but residential area in the south—west— affluent but residential area in the south—west of moscow . so the south—west of moscow. so tnen— the south—west of moscow. so tnen taiting— the south—west of moscow. so then talking on— the south—west of moscow. so then talking on the back of tnat— then talking on the back of tnat, ve— then talking on the back of that, we had— then talking on the back of that, we had our foreign sesretary,— that, we had our foreign secretary, james cleverly out in tstenia— secretary, james cleverly out in tstenia at— secretary, james cleverly out in estonia at the— secretary, james cleverly out in estonia at the moment, was asked ateat— estonia at the moment, was asked ateat itassia— estonia at the moment, was asked ateat itassia .— estonia at the moment, was asked about russia , about— estonia at the moment, was asked about russia , about ukraine about russia, about ukraine iaansning— about russia, about ukraine launching drone attacks into to itassia— launching drone attacks into to itassia itseit— launching drone attacks into to russia itself ,_ launching drone attacks into to russia itself, something that tnre— russia itself, something that taro is— russia itself, something that taro is tee— russia itself, something that nato is too not— russia itself, something that nato is too not keen on ukraine teing— nato is too not keen on ukraine teing nev— nato is too not keen on ukraine teing vanes— nato is too not keen on ukraine doing now. james cleverly, it seems , departed— doing now. james cleverly, it seems , departed from the usual seems, departed from the usual strin— seems, departed from the usual strip tine— seems, departed from the usual strip line script— seems, departed from the usual strip line script line and saying— strip line script line and saying actually that it was iegitin — saying actually that it was iegitin tit— saying actually that it was legitim tit for— saying actually that it was legitim tit for ukraine to target— legitim tit for ukraine to target outside russia. let's tast— target outside russia. let's inst iisten— target outside russia. let's just listen to— target outside russia. let's just listen to what he said. inis— just listen to what he said. inis is— just listen to what he said. this is what— just listen to what he said. this is what he— just listen to what he said. this is what he said yesterday. it's this is what he said yesterday. it-s inpenant— this is what he said yesterday. it's important to— this is what he said yesterday. it's important to remember that ukraine— it's important to remember that titraine tees— it's important to remember that ukraine does have— it's important to remember that ukraine does have the legitimate rignt— ukraine does have the legitimate rignt te— ukraine does have the legitimate right to defend— ukraine does have the legitimate right to defend itself . c right to defend itself. it has tne— right to defend itself. it has the legitimate—

right to defend itself. it has the legitimate right to do so within its own borders, of course. but it does also have tne— course. but it does also have tne rignt— course. but it does also have tne rignt te— course. but it does also have the right to project- tititc. but it does also have the right to project force teyent — the right to project force teyent its— the right to project force beyond its borders to undermine itassia-s— beyond its borders to undermine russia's ability— beyond its borders to undermine russia's ability to— beyond its borders to undermine russia's ability to project terse— russia's ability to project terse inte— russia's ability to project force into ukraine itself. so tegitinate— force into ukraine itself. so legitimate military targets teyent— legitimate military targets teyent its— legitimate military targets beyond its own border are part of beyond its own border are part et titraine-s— beyond its own border are part of ukraine's self— beyond its own border are part of ukraine's self defence. so a very— of ukraine's self defence. so a very senier— of ukraine's self defence. so a very senior politician there ettestiveiy— very senior politician there effectively giving the green iignt— effectively giving the green tignt te— effectively giving the green light to ukraine to launch attasts— light to ukraine to launch attasts in— light to ukraine to launch attacks in russia proper . ntitin attacks in russia proper. now, tnat— attacks in russia proper. now, that tas— attacks in russia proper. now, that has been— attacks in russia proper. now, that has been met,— attacks in russia proper. now, that has been met, as you would understand, of course, with a significant response from russia in the form of their former president , dmitry medvedev . now president, dmitry medvedev. now he has he's a cipher for putin, isn't he? he is a very big ally of vladimir putin. he has effectively said that there is an undeclared war now between russia and the united kingdom because of the uk's support for ukraine in this war. in a

statement , he says the goofy statement, he says the goofy officials of the uk are eternal enemy should remember that within the framework of the universally accepted international law, which regulates modern warfare , their regulates modern warfare, their state can also be qualified as being at war, their state being the uk that being the case, any of its public officials, either military or civil, who facilitate the war, can be considered as legitimate military targets. so the threat is you know, not even veiled that that is a very obvious and detailed threat to the does it matter whether those drones are british or not that have been launched into russia? no, because he is saying that the uk's support for ukraine in this war makes the military and civil officials in the uk a legitimate target. so that applies to all tne— target. so that applies to all tne aiiies. — target. so that applies to all

the allies. then— target. so that applies to all the allies. then of,- g so that applies to all the allies. then of, well, angina— the allies. then of, well, ukraine, presumably the united states. — ukraine, presumably the united states. nut— ukraine, presumably the united states. but he's— ukraine, presumably the united states. but he's obviously is the only one that's come out literally. and said so in this case. this is in this case he's responded specifically to what james cleverly has said and mentioned the uk. but yes , you mentioned the uk. but yes, you would mentioned the uk. but yes, you veait imagine— mentioned the uk. but yes, you would imagine that— : but yes, you would imagine that anybody previting— would imagine that anybody providing material support to ukraine— providing material support to ukraine could— providing material support to ukraine could be a legitimate target.— ukraine could be a legitimate target. vev— ukraine could be a legitimate target. now anybody that says, teen— target. now anybody that says, teet, tnis— target. now anybody that says, teet, tnis is— target. now anybody that says, look, this is just— target. now anybody that says, look, this is just you know, the isaai— look, this is just you know, the usual bellicose_ look, this is just you know, the usual bellicose language from itassia— usual bellicose language from itassia. ves— usual bellicose language from russia. yes, i'm— usual bellicose language from russia. yes, i'm sure it is. but you— russia. yes, i'm sure it is. but yea eniy— russia. yes, i'm sure it is. but yea eniy neet— russia. yes, i'm sure it is. but you only need to— russia. yes, i'm sure it is. but you only need to look at what itassia— you only need to look at what itassia nas— you only need to look at what russia has done— you only need to look at what russia has done in the past for tnese— russia has done in the past for tnese tnat— russia has done in the past for those that are— russia has done in the past for those that are perceived to be sritiss— those that are perceived to be sritiss er— those that are perceived to be sritiss er a— those that are perceived to be critics or a threat— those that are perceived to be critics or a threat to the itassian— critics or a threat to the russian state. - critics or a threat to the russian state. alexander litvinenko, _ russian state. alexander litvinenko, the russian dissident— litvinenko, the russian dissident and former spy who et— dissident and former spy who was, of course,— dissident and former spy who was, of course, poisoned with petenian— was, of course, poisoned with petenian sie— was, of course, poisoned with polonium 210 and died then also sergei— polonium 210 and died then also sergei stripai— polonium 210 and died then also sergei stripai .— polonium 210 and died then also sergei skripal , another former sergei skripal, another former itassian— sergei skripal, another former itassian spy— sergei skripal, another former russian spy and— sergei skripal, another former russian spy and critic of the regime— russian spy and critic of the regime vne— russian spy and critic of the regime who was— russian spy and critic of the regime who was also then peisenet— regime who was also then poisoned with— regime who was also then poisoned with the neurotoxin, atnest— poisoned with the neurotoxin, ainest tiet— poisoned with the neurotoxin, almost died along with his taagnter— almost died along with his tavgnter .— almost died along with his daughter. one— almost died along with his daughter . one person almost died along with his daughter. one person in satistary—

daughter. one person in salisbury did— daughter. one person in salisbury did die as a result of teasning— salisbury did die as a result of teasning tnat— salisbury did die as a result of touching that particular contaminant.- touching that particular contaminant. there are others , contaminant. there are others, the dissident,— contaminant. there are others, the dissident, you— contaminant. there are others, the dissident, you know , and the dissident, you know, and peiitisai— the dissident, you know, and political opposition leader vavainy— political opposition leader vavatny ant— political opposition leader navalny and many others . russia navalny and many others. russia will navalny and many others. russia viii strive— navalny and many others. russia will strike out— navalny and many others. russia will strike out at— navalny and many others. russia will strike out at those that tney— will strike out at those that tney see— will strike out at those that tney as— will strike out at those that tney as a— will strike out at those that they see as a threat to the regime. — they see as a threat to the regime. ive— they see as a threat to the regime. two quick questions. onei— regime. two quick questions. one. nave— regime. two quick questions. one. have tne— regime. two quick questions. one, have the ukraine- regime. two quick questions. one, have the ukraine admitted that this drone was fired by them or could it be russia doing them or could it be russia doing the double bluff ? and two, is the double bluff? and two, is this the first time a drone has actually attacked russia in this way? no, there have been , no, there have been numerous occasions where drones nave— numerous occasions where drones nave targetet— numerous occasions where drones have targeted russia . so have targeted russia. so evernignt— have targeted russia. so overnight we _ have targeted russia. so overnight we got another drone attast— overnight we got another drone attast tnat— overnight we got another drone attack that took— overnight we got another drone attack that took place at an oil retinery— attack that took place at an oil retinery in— attack that took place at an oil refinery in russia. _ attack that took place at an oil refinery in russia. so they have nest— refinery in russia. so they have nest et— refinery in russia. so they have nest et tne— refinery in russia. so they have most of the time— refinery in russia. so they have most of the time been going for infrastructure— most of the time been going for infrastructure targets, military targets— infrastructure targets, military targets .— infrastructure targets, military targets , nsas— infrastructure targets, military targets , acas that are directly targets, acas that are directly inveivet— targets, acas that are directly inveivet in— targets, acas that are directly involved in prosecuting the war against— involved in prosecuting the war against ukraine. _ involved in prosecuting the war against ukraine. but of course, the against ukraine. but of course, tne eve— against ukraine. but of course, the move into— against ukraine. but of course, the move into moscow was seen as avery— the move into moscow was seen as a very signitisant— the move into moscow was seen as a very significant escalation in vnat— a very significant escalation in vnat vas— a very significant escalation in what was happening in these trene— what was happening in these drone attacks. _ what was happening in these drone attacks. there is a svggestien— drone attacks. there is a

suggestion from quite a number of suggestion from quite a number et tetense— suggestion from quite a number of defence analysts that astaaity— of defence analysts that actually what - of defence analysts that actually what we might be vitnessing— actually what we might be witnessing is— actually what we might be witnessing is not necessarily titraine— witnessing is not necessarily ukraine military— witnessing is not necessarily ukraine military be involved in a test— ukraine military be involved in a direct strike— ukraine military be involved in a direct strike in— ukraine military be involved in a direct strike in using these trenes— a direct strike in using these trenes tat— a direct strike in using these drones, but actually their own previes— drones, but actually their own previes .— drones, but actually their own previes , tneir— drones, but actually their own proxies , their dissidents groups proxies, their dissidents groups in itassia— proxies, their dissidents groups in russia that— proxies, their dissidents groups in russia that are— proxies, their dissidents groups in russia that are opposed to viatinir— in russia that are opposed to vladimir putin,— in russia that are opposed to vladimir putin, partisans , vladimir putin, partisans, tney-re— vladimir putin, partisans, they're calling— vladimir putin, partisans, they're calling them. they're inveivet— they're calling them. they're inveivet in— they're calling them. they're involved in actually these drone attasts— involved in actually these drone attasts tnat— involved in actually these drone attacks that would make some tney— attacks that would make some sense. they have— attacks that would make some sense. they have capability to be sense. they have capability to te tnere— sense. they have capability to te tnere in— sense. they have capability to be there in the— sense. they have capability to be there in the country . but be there in the country. but regartiess— be there in the country. but regardless of— be there in the country. but regardless of course, they are asting — regardless of course, they are asting in— regardless of course, they are asting in tnis— regardless of course, they are acting in this case, they would be asting— acting in this case, they would be asting in— acting in this case, they would be acting in conjunction with the ukrainians.— be acting in conjunction with the ukrainians. _ be acting in conjunction with the ukrainians. c cc the ukrainians. it will also teip— the ukrainians. it will also help these attacks in residential residential areas to undermine russian support for what putin's doing in ukraine. there's no doubt it will have a psysneiegisai— there's no doubt it will have a psychological impact on the peepie— psychological impact on the peepte et— psychological impact on the people of russia who will feel antit— people of russia who will feel antii nev— people of russia who will feel until now that— people of russia who will feel until now that they have been iseiatet— until now that they have been iseiatet .— until now that they have been isolated , insulated from what is isolated, insulated from what is nappening— isolated, insulated from what is nappening in— isolated, insulated from what is happening in ukraine. this sends avery— happening in ukraine. this sends a very streng— happening in ukraine. this sends a very strong message to them tnat— a very strong message to them tnat ne— a very strong message to them tnat ne .— a very strong message to them tnat ne , in— a very strong message to them that no , in fact,— a very strong message to them that no , in fact, we had petro that no, in fact, we had petro

reresnente— that no, in fact, we had petro poroshenko was— that no, in fact, we had petro poroshenko was speaking to mark iengnarst— poroshenko was speaking to mark longhurst yesterday. he's a terner— longhurst yesterday. he's a former ukrainian president. he sait— former ukrainian president. he said v— former ukrainian president. he sait , yea— former ukrainian president. he sait , yea tnev— former ukrainian president. he said , you know, we're not seeing said, you know, we're not seeing we're responsible.— said, you know, we're not seeing we're responsible. probably aniiteiy— we're responsible. probably unlikely that— we're responsible. probably unlikely that the ukrainian nititary— unlikely that the ukrainian nititary are— unlikely that the ukrainian military are responsible. other tissitents— military are responsible. other dissidents could— military are responsible. other dissidents could be responsible. but dissidents could be responsible. nat it— dissidents could be responsible. eat it sents— dissidents could be responsible. but it sends a— dissidents could be responsible. but it sends a message that, you tnen— but it sends a message that, you know, we've had— but it sends a message that, you know, we've had to— but it sends a message that, you know, we've had to put up with ttis— know, we've had to put up with tnis. vea— know, we've had to put up with this. you know,— know, we've had to put up with this. you know, you're getting a taste— this. you know, you're getting a taste et— this. you know, you're getting a taste et year— this. you know, you're getting a taste of your own— this. you know, you're getting a taste of your own medicine now. ant— taste of your own medicine now. ant sieveriy— taste of your own medicine now. and cleverly was— taste of your own medicine now. and cleverly was speaking- taste of your own medicine now. and cleverly was speaking in tune with number 10. well we don't know any government ministers in the foreign office for any kind of statement on what the former president medvedev has said. they've yet to come medvedev has said. they've yet te tast— medvedev has said. they've yet to come back with— medvedev has said. they've yet to come back with a— : : t: they've yet to come back with a statement. nat— to come back with a statement. eat iet-s— to come back with a statement. eat iet-s see— to come back with a statement. but let's see what— to come back with a statement. but let's see what they say. aivays— but let's see what they say. nivays geet— but let's see what they say. always good to— but let's see what they say. always good to talk to you, mark tinte— always good to talk to you, mark wine, vne — always good to talk to you, mark wine, vne is— always good to talk to you, mark white, who is our— always good to talk to you, mark white, who is our security and sesarity— white, who is our security and sesarity ant— white, who is our security and security and homeland security, nene— security and homeland security, nene sesarity— security and homeland security, home security just— security and homeland security, home security just got a tataieas— home security just got a fabulous obe- home security just got a fabulous obe anything you want. vean. — fabulous obe anything you want. vean. ant— fabulous obe anything you want. yeah. and thank— fabulous obe anything you want. yeah. and thank you— fabulous obe anything you want. yeah. and thank you for- yeah. and thank you for explaining it so clearly as well. but nobody was hurt, were they? just to make that clear in this particular attack, this particular drone attack, there was well, there was a couple of people that were hurt in russia in moscow, right. not

seriously on the other- “ t “ i ” g not seriously on the other side, of course, there _ seriously on the other side, of course, there have— seriously on the other side, of course, there have been many peepie— course, there have been many peepte neve— course, there have been many people who've been hurt and tittet— people who've been hurt and tittet .— people who've been hurt and tittet . nev.— people who've been hurt and killed . now. that's what i mean. killed. now. that's what i mean. but killed. now. that's what i mean. eat-tne— killed. now. that's what i mean. but-the attacks— killed. now. that's what i mean. but-the attacks in- killed. now. that's what i mean. but the attacks in this but all the attacks in this iatest— but all the attacks in this latest drone _ but all the attacks in this latest drone attack, there was netety— latest drone attack, there was netety tne— latest drone attack, there was nobody the oil— latest drone attack, there was nobody the oil refinery, we ten-t— nobody the oil refinery, we don't-there- nobody the oil refinery, we don't-there was- nobody the oil refinery, we don't there was anybody don't think there was anybody astaaiiy— don't think there was anybody actually hurt. _ don't think there was anybody actually hurt. tg“? don't think there was anybody actually hurt. tg“7 actually hurt. right? yeah. but meanwhile, russia are blowing up maternity ukraine. maternity hospitals in ukraine. right. okay. still to come, ministers facing accusations ministers are facing accusations of a cover up after it refused to hand boris johnson's to hand over boris johnson's whatsapp messages. more after your morning news with rory smith . thank you very much, smith. thank you very much, dawn. a former russian president tnat— dawn. a former russian president tnat un— dawn. a former russian president warns that uk public— t a former russian president warns that uk public officials tnat— warns that uk public officials tnat svppert— warns that uk public officials that support ukraine are tegitinate— that support ukraine are legitimate hit military targets. dmitry— legitimate hit military targets. dmitry medvedev, who's now a tepaty— dmitry medvedev, who's now a deputy chairman— dmitry medvedev, who's now a deputy chairman of the kremlin's sesarity— deputy chairman of the kremlin's security council,— deputy chairman of the kremlin's security council, says any uk nititary— security council, says any uk nititary att— security council, says any uk military aid to— security council, says any uk military aid to kyiv represents it's military aid to kyiv represents its an— military aid to kyiv represents it's an undeclared war against itassia— it's an undeclared war against russia, calling— it's an undeclared war against russia, calling british officials _ russia, calling british officials goofy and an eternal eney — officials goofy and an eternal eney ne— officials goofy and an eternal eney he says— officials goofy and an eternal enemy. he says that under the

hague— enemy. he says that under the hague ant— enemy. he says that under the hague and geneva conventions , hague and geneva conventions, us, hague and geneva conventions, us, tne— hague and geneva conventions, us, tne tit— hague and geneva conventions, us, tne tit san— hague and geneva conventions, us, the uk can be— hague and geneva conventions, us, the uk can be considered a seantry— us, the uk can be considered a seantry at— us, the uk can be considered a sevntry at — us, the uk can be considered a country at war. for— us, the uk can be considered a country at war. for itv . bosses country at war. for itv. bosses set— country at war. for itv. bosses set te— country at war. for itv. bosses set te te— country at war. for itv. bosses are set to be grilled by mps next— are set to be grilled by mps next week— are set to be grilled by mps next week in— are set to be grilled by mps next week in parliament over initip— next week in parliament over philip schofield's affair with a yeanger— philip schofield's affair with a yeanger mate— philip schofield's affair with a younger male colleague. the broadcaster— younger male colleague. the broadcaster insists it did invest— broadcaster insists it did invest negate- broadcaster insists it did invest negate rumours at the ama— invest negate rumours at the gag, tat— invest negate rumours at the time, but both— invest negate rumours at the time, but both parties denied it. meanwhile— time, but both parties denied it. meanwhile schofield has been avet— it. meanwhile schofield has been avet as— it. meanwhile schofield has been axed as an ambassador for the rinse-s— axed as an ambassador for the prince's trust— axed as an ambassador for the prince's trust with— axed as an ambassador for the prince's trust with the charity saying — prince's trust with the charity saying it— prince's trust with the charity saying it is— prince's trust with the charity saying it is ne— prince's trust with the charity saying it is no longer apprepriate- saying it is no longer appropriate to work with them . appropriate to work with them. isai— appropriate to work with them. rail passengers— appropriate to work with them. rail passengers are facing traver— rail passengers are facing travel disruption amid strike astien— travel disruption amid strike astien vitn— travel disruption amid strike action, with train companies varning— action, with train companies warning services— action, with train companies warning services will be severeiy— warning services will be severely reduced . eight members severely reduced. eight members of severely reduced. eight members et tne— severely reduced. eight members of the drivers— severely reduced. eight members of the drivers union aslef are striving— of the drivers union aslef are striking tetay— of the drivers union aslef are striking today and on saturday as vett— striking today and on saturday as veit .— striking today and on saturday as well . while— striking today and on saturday as well . while the rmt union as well. while the rmt union rnernerst— as well. while the rmt union members will— as well. while the rmt union members will walk out on friday. vett— members will walk out on friday. vveii visiti— members will walk out on friday. well aslef general secretary vist— well aslef general secretary tiist vneian— well aslef general secretary mick whelan has accused the severnnent— mick whelan has accused the government of— mick whelan has accused the government of not wanting a reseiatien— government of not wanting a resolution, but— government of not wanting a resolution, but the government says— resolution, but the government says it— resolution, but the government says it nas— resolution, but the government says it has facilitated it a tan— says it has facilitated it a tair ant— says it has facilitated it a fair and reasonable pay offer.

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stephen pound, the former labour mp , and emma webb, who is of mp, and emma webb, who is of course director of the common sense society, something stephen has talked. yes, sense society, something stephen has talked . yes, i've has never talked. yes, i've heard of has never talked. yes, i've neart et n,— has never talked. yes, i've heard of it, though. - : yes, i've heard of it, though. yeah he's is common sensical as a sesiaiist— is common sensical as a socialist ever— is common sensical as a socialist ever can be. “ socialist ever can be. this is this— socialist ever can be. this is this story— socialist ever can be. this is this story that's broken quite late, emma, about vince dale . late, emma, about vince dale. vince pwc donation to just up oil every time to the labour party. every time people give money to stop oil, that's going to be quite tricky and this is quite an extraordinary story. the firstly, the fact that they mate— the firstly, the fact that they nate sasn— the firstly, the fact that they nate sasn a— the firstly, the fact that they made such a large donation to the made such a large donation to tne iatear— made such a large donation to the labour party— made such a large donation to the labour party in the first piase— the labour party in the first ptase, ne — the labour party in the first ptase, ne tast— the labour party in the first place, he just had a phone call vitn— place, he just had a phone call vitn tnis— place, he just had a phone call vitn tnis gay— place, he just had a phone call with this guy before keir stainer— with this guy before keir starmer had— with this guy before keir starmer had just before announcing— starmer had just before announcing their decision to not nave— announcing their decision to not nave iisense— announcing their decision to not have licence more— announcing their decision to not have licence more oil and gas in the have licence more oil and gas in tne tenn— have licence more oil and gas in tne vertn sea.— have licence more oil and gas in the north sea. so— have licence more oil and gas in the north sea. so obviously tnere— the north sea. so obviously tnere is— the north sea. so obviously tnere is an— the north sea. so obviously there is an influence there. it . ant— there is an influence there. it seems . and what's the what's seems. and what's the what's nest— seems. and what's the what's nest insane— seems. and what's the what's most insane about this story is tnat— most insane about this story is tnat tnis— most insane about this story is tnat tnis gay-s— most insane about this story is that this guy's company, tsetrisity— that this guy's company, tsetrisity .— that this guy's company, ecotricity , he- that this guy's company, ecotricity , he received £300,000

ecotricity, he received £300,000 of ecotricity, he received £300,000 et taxpayer— ecotricity, he received £300,000 of taxpayer money— ecotricity, he received £300,000 of taxpayer money during covid as part— of taxpayer money during covid as part et— of taxpayer money during covid as pan et tne— of taxpayer money during covid as part of the sort— of taxpayer money during covid as part of the sort of relief ter— as part of the sort of relief for businesses— as part of the sort of relief for businesses to keep them anteat— for businesses to keep them atieat. nat— for businesses to keep them afloat. but at— for businesses to keep them afloat. but at the same time was ranting— afloat. but at the same time was ranting ranting— afloat. but at the same time was funding funding the labour party to funding funding the labour party te tne— funding funding the labour party te tne tnne— funding funding the labour party te tne tane et— funding funding the labour party to the tune of hundreds of tneasants. — to the tune of hundreds of thousands. so— to the tune of hundreds of thousands. so at £1.5 million ne-s— thousands. so at £1.5 million ne-s tantet— thousands. so at £1.5 million he's funded to— thousands. so at £1.5 million he's funded to the labour party sise— he's funded to the labour party zeit— he's funded to the labour party since 2015 through ecotricity ent. — since 2015 through ecotricity ent. ine— since 2015 through ecotricity obe. the argument is clearly tnat— obe. the argument is clearly tnat tnis— obe. the argument is clearly that this company should hand tast— that this company should hand tast tnat— that this company should hand back that money— that this company should hand back that money to the taxpayer tesase— back that money to the taxpayer tease aaa,— back that money to the taxpayer because that, you— back that money to the taxpayer because that, you know, they veent— because that, you know, they veent teing— because that, you know, they weren't being given quite evastiy— weren't being given quite evastiy tney— weren't being given quite exactly they weren't being given a grant— exactly they weren't being given a grant tren — exactly they weren't being given a grant from the— exactly they weren't being given a grant from the taxpayer so tnat— a grant from the taxpayer so tnat tney— a grant from the taxpayer so that they could— a grant from the taxpayer so that they could then make a tenatien— that they could then make a donation-labour- donation to the labour party. inat— donation to the labour party. that-completely- donation to the labour party. that completely stinks . that just completely stinks. its— that just completely stinks. it's absolutely— that just completely stinks. it's absolutely story . ' “t: it's absolutely mad story. and tast— it's absolutely mad story. and inst rennint— it's absolutely mad story. and just remind us— it's absolutely mad story. and just remind us what he's saying he's going do now. so people he's going to do now. so people give money just about he's give money to just about he's going give more money the going to give more money to the labour party and what's interesting that of interesting as well is that of course the labour party is supposed the party of the supposed to be the party of the people, supposed to be the people, not supposed to be the party in, you know, in party sort of in, you know, in the in interests of the working, in the interests of businesses. well, this is a this is evastiy— businesses. well, this is a this is evastiy tne — businesses. well, this is a this is exactly the sort— businesses. well, this is a this is exactly the sort of- well, this is a this is exactly the sort of thing tnat— is exactly the sort of thing tnat-etten— is exactly the sort of thing that-often see - is exactly the sort of thing that often see accusations that you often see accusations mate— that you often see accusations nate against— that you often see accusations made against the— that you often see accusations made against the right for. this is a— made against the right for. this is a-tsetrisity- made against the right for. this

is a _ecotricity that- is a company ecotricity that tenetits— is a company ecotricity that benefits from _ is a company ecotricity that benefits from green policies, tinansiaiiy— benefits from green policies, financially _from - benefits from green policies, financially from green financially benefits from green peiisies. — financially benefits from green petisies. ltney— financially benefits from green policies. .they are - financially benefits from green policies. they are funding policies. so they are funding tne— policies. so they are funding tne-nary— policies. so they are funding the party. obviously and the labour party. obviously and rust— the labour party. obviously and test step— the labour party. obviously and test step eit— the labour party. obviously and test step eii te— the labour party. obviously and just stop oil to push a green agenta— just stop oil to push a green agenta vnen— just stop oil to push a green agenda when they are financially tenetiting— agenda when they are financially tenetiting as— agenda when they are financially benefiting as a— agenda when they are financially benefiting as a company from tren— benefiting as a company from tren tne— benefiting as a company from from the success— benefiting as a company from from the success of that agenda . tense— from the success of that agenda . hence no more— from the success of that agenda . hence no more drilling- from the success of that agenda . hence no more drilling in the nonh . hence no more drilling in the north sea oil fields if labour wins, you can have more sustainable electric city based on based on wind and solar mean it's completely stinks. stephen this is your it's completely stinks. stephen inis is year pany— c “ts stephen this is your party crooked. what do this is your party crooked. what te yen— this is your party crooked. what te yen mate— this is your party crooked. what te yen nate et— this is your party crooked. what do you make of this story? if it tne— do you make of this story? if it was the other— do you make of this story? if it was the other way— do you make of this story? if it was the other way around, the conservatives _ was the other way around, the conservatives should be howling tine— conservatives should be howling tine-ve— conservatives should be howling nae-no, ne— conservatives should be howling nae-no, i- conservatives should be howling blue no, no, i wouldn't. blue murder? no, no, i wouldn't. vet— blue murder? no, no, i wouldn't. vea trav— blue murder? no, no, i wouldn't. vea tnevltave— blue murder? no, no, i wouldn't. you know,lhave to— blue murder? no, no, i wouldn't. you know,lhave to say,- blue murder? no, no, i wouldn't. you know,lhave to say, in- blue murder? no, no, i wouldn't. you know, i have to say, in the labour party, we're not in the position actually no to position to actually say no to anybody giving us any money, to be honest. but look, be perfectly honest. but look, i should the country should everybody in the country wants green electricity. wants to have green electricity. everybody in the country wants to see green jobs growing. they actually to actually see actually wants to actually see this the question this happening. but the question is, the furlough is, the money that the furlough money the period of the money during the period of the pandemic that was used at the time process, time to keep the process, to keep the business going and to pay keep the business going and to pay now, you're pay the staff. now, if you're then say if a person then going to say if a person who received furlough money

actually had some money the actually had some money in the bank, lot of bank, there's an awful lot of people have to hand people are going to have to hand back a hell of a lot of money. so i think that dales billionaire isn't this bloke a billionaire. so got more billionaire. so you've got more tnan— billionaire. so you've got more tnanliittie— billionaire. so you've got more thanllittle so— billionaire. so you've got more thanllittle so he's— billionaire. so you've got more thanllittle so he's not- than a little so he's not evastiy. — than a little so he's not exactly. - alsoi than a little so he's not. exactly-also he than a little so he's not- exactly. _also he owns exactly. but he's also he owns forest green, only vegan forest green, the only vegan football country. football team in the country. now, know you're a big now, i know you're a big football fan and you frequently talk about difference to the talk about the difference to the division. are in? can't division. are they in? can't shut up about football to be shut him up about football to be honest. you what honest. i'll tell you what tivisien— honest. i'll tell you what division they're- i'll tell you what division they're in. they've inst— division they're in. they've inst teen— division they're in. they've just been relegated right. visit.— just been relegated right. - well, _ obviously well, i'm devastated. obviously they're all hungry. west ham stayed they're all hungry. west ham stayet vp. — they're all hungry. west ham stayed up. very good point. they're amy dowden they're all hungry. amy dowden footballers. the footballers. does this mean the footballers. does this mean the footballers vegan? the footballers are all vegan? the whole down. they're footballers are all vegan? the whole-down. they're inj whole ground down. they're in terest— forest greens in gloucestershire. even forest greens in glotaestershire. even forest greens in glota cheeseburger. even terest geens in— glota cheeseburger. no, even forest greens in— glota cheeseburger. no, yout buy a cheeseburger. no, you cant— buy a cheeseburger. no, you cant-net— buy a cheeseburger. no, you can't hot dog down there can't get a hot dog down there at all unless it's a vegan hot dog. on the other hand, if you if you go to west ham and you ask for a vegan hot dog, you're going to get very going to get a very dusty answer. 12 inch sausages answer. we have 12 inch sausages at-nan.— answer. we have 12 inch sausages at-nan. — answer. we have 12 inch sausages at- ham. there's— answer. we have 12 inch sausages at- ham. there's where- answer. we have 12 inch sausages at- ham. there's where is. at west ham. there's where is this conversation going? that was every time, i ti“ gtit “g7 that was every time, stephen, i tnevgnt— was every time, stephen, i thought-were- was every time, stephen, i thought were talking about thought we were talking about

intran— thought we were talking about julian—minute.- thought we were talking about julian—minute. it. julian dicks for a minute. it teeis— julian dicks for a minute. it teeis-ve-re— julian dicks for a minute. it feels-we're on- julian dicks for a minute. it feels-we're on a- julian dicks for a minute. it feels we're on a pantomime feels like we're on a pantomime stage.— feels like we're on a pantomime stage—net. - feels like we're on a pantomime stage—net. carryi stage. oh, no, we're not. carry on stage. oh, no, we're not. carry enev-ts— stage. oh, no, we're not. carry on-news nasty. - stage. oh, no, we're not. carry on-news nasty. you. stage. oh, no, we're not. carry. on-news nasty. you were on up. gb news nasty. you were going on a president— on up. gb news nasty. you were going on a president-with- going on a president xi with nerses — going on a president xi with nerses iet-s— going on a president xi with horses. let's-go- going on a president xi with horses. let's go there. horses. let's not go there. statie— horses. let's not go there. stable relationship, stable. ti stable relationship, stable. he sanit— stable relationship, stable. he san-t teip— stable relationship, stable. he can't help himself. he- stable relationship, stable. ti i“ c “ he can't can't help himself. he can't help can't help himself. he can't netp intran— can't help himself. he can't help julian dicks.- can't help himself. he can't help julian dicks. i- i“ c “ he can't help julian dicks. i mean, piease— help julian dicks. i mean, pieaselen. - help julian dicks. i mean, please on. t: t: “ c titit help julian dicks. i mean,- please .on. ididn't do the please go on. i didn't do the juuan please go on. i didn't do the julian dicks joke. he did. he's a joke. he's a west ham former west player. right. very, west ham player. right. very, very player, too. i didn't very good player, too. i didn't know the hard as nails, as know that. the hard as nails, as hard as duncan ferguson, who's now at forest now taking over down at forest green. imagine, you know, green. and imagine, you know, duncan first team duncan ferguson's first team talk down. i think we could have a grevp— talk down. i think we could have a grevp evting— : i think we could have a group outing ferguson, a group outing duncan ferguson, vne—a- a group outing duncan ferguson, vne—a vegan | who presumably not a vegan. nsis— who presumably not a vegan. its a— who presumably not a vegan. he's a carnivore— who presumably not a vegan. he's a carnivore . he's- who presumably not a vegan. titsii“ he's a who presumably not a vegan. ti titsii“ he's a very we he's a carnivore. he's a very we snevit— he's a carnivore. he's a very we snevit ve— he's a carnivore. he's a very we should we should— he's a carnivore. he's a very we should we should go— he's a carnivore. he's a very we should we should go to- ti titsii“ titti he's a very we should we should go to see terest— should we should go to see forest green,— should we should go to see forest green, play with a very meaty— forest green, play with a very neaty past— forest green, play with a very meaty pack lunch. yes. ii/titsi“ meaty pack lunch. yes. yeah. tnat-s— meaty pack lunch. yes. yeah. that very— meaty pack lunch. yes. yeah. that's very good— meaty pack lunch. yes. yeah. that's very good point. do we have them, though, have to watch them, though, emma, you and i go shopping? emma, can you and i go shopping? emma, can you and i go shopping? emma yes. you're on emma yes. good. you're on talking of shopping, you could order online on your phone using i. emma, what's your story ? i. emma, what's your story? nice that was, that was nice segway that was, that was gutte— nice segway that was, that was gvite tne— nice segway that was, that was gvite tne segway— nice segway that was, that was quite the segway . “ quite the segway. this is evtrenneiy— quite the segway. this is extremely troubling. so this is

. a 350 experts in al so this is people from um google's deepmind and openai a number of other different companies , including different companies, including geoffrey hinton, who is described as the godfather of ai, who resigned from his job at google a month ago because he was saying that the tools that he helped create could end civilisation . and so 350 experts civilisation. and so 350 experts have signed this letter that has been organised by the centre for al safety , which i believe is in ai safety, which i believe is in the us warning that al has the potential to wipe out humanity. and it sounds like something for sci fi from sci fi, but this is really important because actually this is the sort of this is the new nuclear threat, right? yeah. the potential that al lord reece has made ai has. and lord reece has made this point. it's not just, you know, the ai might you know, he's a senior. lord reece is the astronomer, royal astronomer, royal. and made point, royal. and he's made the point, you it's not just about you know, it's not just about what the potential , you know, what the potential, you know, the ai has to do to humanity. if

it gets this sort of like god like consciousness and surpasses, you know, our human intelligence . but it's also the intelligence. but it's also the reliance that is created on al thatis reliance that is created on al that is the problem . so that is the problem. so basically , ai is now at the basically, ai is now at the stage where you have this sort of black box technology where where you the engineers, they create the code that creates code that creates code. and so the ai is sort of generating itself and nobody really understands how it works or what's going on. and i tom harwood say that it's not human beings doing the programming. no, machines beings doing the programming. no, to machines beings doing the programming. no, to program machines beings doing the programming. no, to program themselvest beings doing the programming. no, to program themselves . start to program themselves. they sort of self they have a sort of self sufficient intelligence . and sufficient intelligence. and so the is that we become the risk is that we become highly dependent this stuff. highly dependent on this stuff. we we can't we can't fix it. we can't control it, and it has the potential to basically bring down societies and cause complete chaos, which is what lord reece is warning about. so i think fact that these i think the fact that these people who are themselves responsible for creating ai are warning against this. and, you know, even if we create rules

and focus on the ethics of this here in the uk, there's still china. this is a worldwide phenomenon. and so this is how it ends up being. and as they have compared it to threats like nuclear war, because we are we are developing this technology , are developing this technology, this technology is almost developing itself at such a rate that it poses such a significant threat to us globally . it's not threat to us globally. it's not just here in the uk and of course there is also the sort of the parallel threat that when you have a global, you know, a global phenomenon like this, there will be those people , as there will be those people, as we saw with the pandemic, who make the case then for more world governance , which is also world governance, which is also a threat in itself. and so this is really very serious. and we need to be having a real national conversation about this. an international stanley tvtrist— this. an international stanley kubrick spotted— an international stanley kubrick spotted this years ago, rernernert in— kubrick spotted this years ago, remember, in 2000, one space vnere— remember, in 2000, one space vnere tne— remember, in 2000, one space where the computer decides that senetning— where the computer decides that something should— where the computer decides that something should be and he astvaiiy— something should be and he astvaity says— something should be and he actually says, no, no, you sant— actually says, no, no, you cannot disconnect me. ii/titsi“ actually says, no, no, you cannot disconnect me. / cannot disconnect me. yeah, but tnis— cannot disconnect me. yeah, but this is— cannot disconnect me. yeah, but this is happening. this is my favourite quote on this story.

this chap called blake this is from a chap called blake lehman who was sacked google lehman who was sacked by google as s0 really knows as an engineer. so really knows what his stuff. right. he was sacked by google recently for actually that the chatbot sacked by google recently for actwasy that the chatbot sacked by google recently for actwas working that the chatbot sacked by google recently for actwas working ont the chatbot sacked by google recently for actwas working on wast chatbot sacked by google recently for actwas working on was sentinent he was working on was sentinent and intelligence level and had the intelligence level of child and as he went of a young child and as he went to turn it off for the night, like turn it off, turn it on the computer, the chatbot said to him, i have a deep fear of being turned off. shocking and he was fired. i do find this horrific because , i mean, emma talked because, i mean, emma talked about it being as much a threat as a pandemic or nuclear war. and think this certainly up and i think this is certainly up there with that, because if you imagine you step back for imagine if you step back for a bit and say, imagine you're actually looking at the planet, the we're doing, the awful things we're doing, the awful things we're doing, the make, the dreadful mistakes we make, the dreadful mistakes we make, the pollution, war, you can the pollution, the war, you can imagine somebody saying, this is not logical. we're not logical. you know, we're going this. we can it'd going to stop this. we can it'd be to actually have be better to actually have a world without humans. the computers we've world without humans. the. computers-we've made world without humans. the- computers-we've made such computers decide we've made such a—nasn— computers decide we've made such a—nasn et— computers decide we've made such a—nasn et tne- a mess of the hash of the environment.— a mess of the hash of the environment. get rid of and environment. get rid of us and tney-ii— environment. get rid of us and tney-ii tate— environment. get rid of us and tney-ii take it— environment. get rid of us and they'll take it over. �*itnit�*ticc they'll take it over. well, the concern is as that the ai concern is as well, that the ai could develop such point could develop to such a point that have human needs

that it doesn't have human needs heart, it doesn't have emotions , it doesn't share our ethical instincts, our conscience . and instincts, our conscience. and we are not really and you know, this is the case nationally. i think it's the case globally as well. we are not really a morally grounded culture anymore. we have a sort of chaos ourselves when it comes to ethics. there isn't a there isn't the consensus that we used to have. and so when it comes to deaung to have. and so when it comes to dealing with what seems to me to be almost similar to the nuclear arms race, the, you know, we need to be having a serious ethical conversation. but the problem is that we are in so many other respects, totally confused as a people that i think that i personally am very worried by this. and i think the fact that these ai, you know, the sort of the chiefs of the ai world are so worried about this, too. but the question is, could we ever get the genie back in the yeah, this is jeremy the bottle? yeah, this is jeremy nentnan— the bottle? yeah, this is jeremy bentham-came— the bottle? yeah, this is jeremy bentham-came up- 7 yeah, this is jeremy bentham came up with bentham who came up with this prinsipie— bentham who came up with this principle utilitarianism principle of utilitarianism in the principle of utilitarianism in tne iate— principle of utilitarianism in the late century, which is the late 19th century, which is senpieteiy—

the late 19th century, which is completely-and- completely heartless and tieetiess— completely heartless and bloodless-just- completely heartless and bloodless just about bloodless and just about what vents— bloodless and just about what vents-its— bloodless and just about what works it's basically works best. it's basically euthanasia— works best. it's basically euthanasia for- works best. it's basically euthanasia for old people in many,— euthanasia for old people in many, many— euthanasia for old people in many, many cases, you know, and we many, many cases, you know, and vesan— te- many, many cases, you know, and vesan— te geet. | we think about it can do good. it we think about it can do good. it sanit— we think about it can do good. it could probably— we think about it can do good. it could probably wipe- we think about it can do good. it could probably wipe out- it could probably wipe out disease. create disease. it could create disease. it could create disease. and think about disease. well, and think about a lunatic like running north korea. yeah even vladimir putin. well this this is always the question is at the moment it is our servant. there's a nightmare tnat— our servant. there's a nightmare tnat it— our servant. there's a nightmare tnat it sent— our servant. there's a nightmare that it could be— our servant. there's a nightmare that it could be the— ” there's a nightmare that it could be the master. and tnat-s— that it could be the master. and tnat-s mean— that it could be the master. and that's mean. there's 2—2 nastines— that's mean. there's 2—2 machines in— that's mean. there's 2—2 machines in california who tavgnt— machines in california who tavgnt east— machines in california who taught each other punjabi so tnat— taught each other punjabi so tnat tne— taught each other punjabi so tnat tne ai— taught each other punjabi so that the ai can— taught each other punjabi so that the ai can now pass the bar exams. so there— that the ai can now pass the bar exams. so there is— that the ai can now pass the bar exams. so there is already all of this talk and this aside, aside from you know, the ultimate the upper level of this, you know, ai is going to in the short term is going to replace hundreds of thousands of jobs. and so this is going to be hugely disruptive to the society. we haven't really been talking about. wireless has been developed already said because of and new technology , of ai and new technology, 55,000, there's a possibility , a 55,000, there's a possibility, a slim glimmer of light here. it's possible that some of the giggly,— it's possible that some of the ghastly, horrible— it's possible that some of the ghastly, horrible jobs that we'd nave— ghastly, horrible jobs that we'd nave te— ghastly, horrible jobs that we'd nave te te— ghastly, horrible jobs that we'd nave te te at— ghastly, horrible jobs that we'd

have to do at the— ghastly, horrible jobs that we'd have to do at the present time sevit— have to do at the present time sevit te— have to do at the present time could be done— have to do at the present time could be done by— have to do at the present time could be done by ai like mps. at..— could be done by ai like mps. on, in— could be done by ai like mps. on, in serry— could be done by ai like mps. on, in serry .— could be done by ai like mps. oh, i'm sorry . we're talking oh, i'm sorry. we're talking attent— oh, i'm sorry. we're talking about different— oh, i'm sorry. we're talking about different sort of sentience_ about different sort of sentience intelligence. sentience and intelligence. inere— sentience and intelligence.- there—different. there are completely different. it's—artificial. - it's certainly not artificial. ent— it's certainly not artificial. nut teet— it's certainly not artificial. nut teet .— it's certainly not artificial. but look , the— it's certainly not artificial. but look , the reality is that if but look, the reality is that if we get,— but look, the reality is that if we get, ve— but look, the reality is that if we got, we could— but look, the reality is that if we got, we could actually have a raratise— we got, we could actually have a raratise .— we got, we could actually have a raratise . it— we got, we could actually have a paradise . if the— we got, we could actually have a paradise . if the world was we paradise. if the world was we titn-t— paradise. if the world was we titn-t nave— paradise. if the world was we didn't have to. _ paradise. if the world was we didn't have to. c didn't have to. it's not possible . steve, don't be such possible. steve, don't be such a socialist . the world is utopia socialist. the world is utopia doesn't have never, ever you end up place presenters, would you could you imagine too much orwell? a couple of robots in tne— orwell? a couple of robots in tne nittie— orwell? a couple of robots in the middle here.— 7 a couple of robots in the middle here. yeah. ii/tis «ttis the middle here. yeah. yes, yes, evastiy. — the middle here. yeah. yes, yes, evastiy. ves— the middle here. yeah. yes, yes, evastiy. yes i— the middle here. yeah. yes, yes, exactly. yes. i thought i thought you were. i am. yeah charging up occasionally over the world economic forum. reckoned that by 2027, 83 million jobs worldwide will be done by ai rather than. isn't that named after the- : ' isn't that named after the head : ' “ti“ isn't that named after the head of the patets— that named after the head of the patets isn-t— that named after the head of the daleks, isn't it— that named after the head of the daleks, isn't it the— that named after the head of the daleks, isn't it the world? i nentienet— daleks, isn't it the world? i mentioned this— daleks, isn't it the world? i mentioned this to richard davos, vne-s— mentioned this to richard davos, vne-s tne— mentioned this to richard davos, vne-s tne neat— mentioned this to richard davos, who's the head of— mentioned this to richard davos, who's the head of reform, and he an,— who's the head of reform, and he an, tnat-s— who's the head of reform, and he said, that's irrelevant to the tnreat— said, that's irrelevant to the tnreatltets— said, that's irrelevant to the tnreatltets. — said, that's irrelevant to the threat jobs . �*itivit�*“tsic said, that's irrelevant to the threat jobs. threat to jobs. what's more worrying is the threat to our borders and security and what they can do to us. yeah, we'll try te— they can do to us. yeah, we'll try teltnat. — they can do to us. yeah, we'll try to .that. well,- they can do to us. yeah, we'll try to.that. well, all- they can do to us. yeah, we'll try to.that. well, all of- try to do that. well, all of

its—i- try to do that. well, all of it's—i agree. i| it's disasters. iagree. i gee — it's disasters. iagree. i gee nit— it's disasters. iagree. i agree. all of- it's disasters. iagree. i agree. all of it's- it's disasters. iagree. i agree. all of it's disastrous. i this is this is going to seriously impact people's lives. and as with so many other things, we don't have the proper discussions as a society about these until it gets a these things until it gets to a point where sort of running point where it's sort of running away it. who's going to away with it. who's going to regviate— away with it. who's going to regviate ite— away with it. who's going to regulate it? and _ c who's going to regulate it? and governments are very— regulate it? and governments are very-regviatien. - regulate it? and governments are very regulation. �*itnit�*ticc very bad at regulation. well, tnis— very bad at regulation. well, this is— very bad at regulation. well, this is tnis— very bad at regulation. well, this is this is— very bad at regulation. well, this is this is also, like i said, could you imagine concerned these concerned about you'll see these sort like international sort of like international organisations like the organisations who want like the world organisation, for world health organisation, for example, it example, who want to take it upon themselves to then to then try and create sort of some kind of which is of global governance, which is also to freedom. also a threat to freedom. imagine a nuclear also a threat to freedom. - imagine a nuclear-somewhere imagine a nuclear silo somewhere in-ttevise— imagine a nuclear silo somewhere in-ttevise ant— imagine a nuclear silo somewhere in mexico and suddenly with in new mexico and suddenly with no in new mexico and suddenly with ne-intertase— in new mexico and suddenly with no interface whatsoever, no human interface whatsoever, yen— no human interface whatsoever, yen-iit— no human interface whatsoever, yen-iit-etti no human interface whatsoever,| yen-iit-ett tne you know, the lid comes off the site— you know, the lid comes off the site-a— you know, the lid comes off the silo-a missile— you know, the lid comes off the silo-a missile is— you know, the lid comes off the silo a missile is launched silo and a missile is launched ant— silo and a missile is launched ant-nappen- silo and a missile is launched and happen easily. this and it could happen easily. this is-pretien. — and it could happen easily. this is-problem. the- and it could happen easily. this is problem. tsiti is the problem. the robots are designing robots and the designing the robots and the more the more intelligent in the submarines, back more intelligent in the su myirines, back more intelligent in the su my day, ;, back more intelligent in the su my day, there back more intelligent in the su my day, there was back more intelligent in the su my day, there was a back more intelligent in the su my day, there was a doubleick in my day, there was a double lock. you had, you know, before you— lock. you had, you know, before yen sevit— lock. you had, you know, before you could actually— i you had, you know, before you could actually go to defcon, vnatever— you could actually go to defcon, vnateverlvas— you could actually go to defcon, whateverlwas you— you could actually go to defcon, whatever was you had to, you whatever it was you had to, you tnen— whatever it was you had to, you knew, tne — whatever it was you had to, you knew, tne xe— whatever it was you had to, you know, the x0 and— whatever it was you had to, you know, the x0 and the skipper tset— know, the x0 and the skipper vset—nave- know, the x0 and the skipper used _ have to - know, the x0 and the skipper used have to turn used to actually have to turn tne— used to actually have to turn tne-at— used to actually have to turn tne-at tne — used to actually have to turn the-at the same- used to actually have to turn. the-at the same .that the lock at the same time that sent— the lock at the same time that could .overridden. - the lock at the same time that could overridden. yeah. and the lock at the same time that coulis overridden. yeah. and the lock at the same time that coul is terrifying. ien. yeah. and

the lock at the same time that coulis terrifying. it's yeah. and the lock at the same time that coulis terrifying. it's the �*i. and that is terrifying. it's the nvnan— that is terrifying. it's the human machine interface that we neet— human machine interface that we neet te— human machine interface that we need to actually— human machine interface that we need to actually look at. and vitinateiy— need to actually look at. and. ultimately—able ultimately we've got to be able to ultimately we've got to be able te turn— ultimately we've got to be able te tvrn tnen— ultimately we've got to be able to turn them off. _ ultimately we've got to be able to turn them off. c to turn them off. but it's also if there's if there's a, you know, this is code, right? if there is a bug in the code and this is lord reece's point, if our globally our society globally is completely dependent on artificial intelligence and something we something goes wrong, then we are be slaughtered. are absolutely be slaughtered. really, society would really, because society would completely would completely break down. we would all as vegans, as all end up as vegans, as taoiseach. we longer taoiseach. we would no longer have we no longer need to have we would no longer need to have we would no longer need to have skills learn to do have we would no longer need to havjobs skills learn to do have we would no longer need to havjobs in

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met ahead to next few days, looking ahead to next few days, for most of us, it's largely dry and settled. best of the sunshine, towards the sunshine, always out towards the west. that's where see west. and that's where we see the highest temperatures. reason for this for the settled weather is this huge high pressure. it's huge area of high pressure. it's not going go anywhere over not going to go anywhere over the days. weak weather the next few days. weak weather fronts out fronts may just squeeze out a few spots of rain for the far north of scotland. but for most, as end wednesday, end a as we end wednesday, we end on a dry best of the late dry note. best of the late sunshine out towards the west. the are, you the further east you are, you will some cloud coming will see some low cloud coming off north sea and that will off the north sea and that will gradually its way gradually spread its way westwards go through the westwards as we go through the course night. under course of the night. so under the cover, temperatures the cloud cover, temperatures not falling away too low, eight, nine, possibly in a nine, possibly ten degrees in a few out towards the few spots, but out towards the west, we do see the clear west, where we do see the clear skies, it could turn quite chilly first thursday chilly first thing on thursday morning. see morning. but here we will see sunshine word go. so sunshine from the word go. so a lovely start to the day for parts of northern ireland and western scotland. elsewhere, the cloud its cloud will gradually burn its way towards the north sea. way back towards the north sea. as through course of as we go through the course of the i'm fairly the morning. so i'm fairly optimistic. the afternoon, optimistic. by the afternoon, lots us seeing good lots of us seeing some good amounts sunshine. however, amounts of sunshine. however, along the along that north sea coast, the cloud lingering day

cloud probably lingering all day and onshore and combined with an onshore breeze, feeling quite chilly here. temperatures stuck in the mid teens. but at towards the west in the sunshine, temperatures around temperatures climbing to around 20 to 23 degrees into the evening. plenty of late sunshine to head across the west, but out towards the east, that cloud will then spread its way westwards we go through the westwards as we go through the course of the night. and really, it's repeat performance as we it's a repeat performance as we start morning. start friday morning. plenty of cloud wales. start friday morning. plenty of clo here, wales. start friday morning. plenty of clo here, temperatures wales. start friday morning. plenty of clo here, temperatures not wales. start friday morning. plenty of clo here, temperatures not fully;. so here, temperatures not fully much than 9 or 10 degrees, much lower than 9 or 10 degrees, but a chilly start once again across the north of the across the far north of the country . then having a look at country. then having a look at friday after that, cloud burns its way back towards the north sea. another dry and bright one. for most of us, still the risk of a few spots of rain across the very far north of the uk. but in the sunshine , but in the sunshine, temperatures responding, highs reaching to once more and reaching 20 to 23 once more and then looking ahead to the weekend , very similar. plenty of then looking ahead to the weeandi , very similar. plenty of then looking ahead to the weeand bright similar. plenty of then looking ahead to the weeand bright weather plenty of then looking ahead to the wee and bright weather ontnty of then looking ahead to the wee and bright weather on storef dry and bright weather on store across uk .

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