said that they are going to commission a barrister to do a review . fascinating or not. and review. fascinating or not. and the labour party, they want to issue compulsory purchase orders on land at below the possible value. they reckon it's a way to fix the housing crisis, but personally me, i worry that it smacks of the chinese communist party . what do you make? party. what do you make? property owner ben habib. he will be debating socialist aaron

bastani . i'm looking forward to bastani. i'm looking forward to that one. and just stop oil. we know that lunacy by now, but one of the backers is saying that he's going to double his funding. he, of course , is a big funding. he, of course, is a big donor to the labour party. well, of my panel say this is disgrace , awful and labour should hand back the cash. should they ? and back the cash. should they? and when you do your shopping, do you appreciate being lectured to by brands? i certainly do not. innocence movie in trouble with that one. and when you go flying, should you ever be weird as a passenger ? that's the as a passenger? that's the suggestion of one airline, a sensible or cruel? you tell me. we'll get into it all. but before we do, let's bring ourselves up to speed with tonight's latest headlines . tonight's latest headlines. michelle, thank you. and breaking news f m" and breaking news coming to us within— breaking news coming to us within the— breaking news coming to us within the last— breaking news coming to us within the last few minutes of concerns. daytime tv on itv . we concerns. daytime tv on itv. we understand— concerns. daytime tv on itv. we understand the— concerns. daytime tv on itv. we understand the company itv has

today— understand the company itv has today instructed— understand the company itv has today instructed a— understand the company itv has today instructed a barrister for today instructed a barrister for to carry— today instructed a barrister for to carry out— today instructed a barrister for to carry out an— today instructed a barrister for to carry out an external review of the— to carry out an external review of the precise— to carry out an external review of the precise facts following tv of the precise facts following w presenter— of the precise facts following tv presenter phillip schofield's statement— tv presenter phillip schofield's statement and— tv presenter phillip schofield's statement and departure from the daytime— statement and departure from the daytime iv— statement and departure from the daytime tv show— statement and departure from the daytime tv show this morning, itv daytime tv show this morning, iiv chief— daytime tv show this morning, itv chief executive dame carolyn iicctii— itv chief executive dame carolyn iicctii wrote— itv chief executive dame carolyn mccall wrote in— itv chief executive dame carolyn mccall wrote in a— itv chief executive dame carolyn mccall wrote in a letter to the ottom— mccall wrote in a letter to the etcom ctiet— mccall wrote in a letter to the ofcom chief executive saying itiiiip— ofcom chief executive saying itiiiip mate— ofcom chief executive saying philip made assurances to us and his philip made assurances to us and its agency,— philip made assurances to us and his agency, which— philip made assurances to us and his agency, which he now acknowledges— his agency, which he now acknowledges were untrue . and we acknowledges were untrue. and we feel acknowledges were untrue. and we teei titty. — acknowledges were untrue. and we teei titty. tet— acknowledges were untrue. and we feel badly. let down. we consider— feel badly. let down. we consider our— feel badly. let down. we consider our approach was reasonttie— consider our approach was reasonable and- consider our approach was reasonable and proportionate unit— reasonable and proportionate unit at— reasonable and proportionate unit at tite— reasonable and proportionate unit at the time— reasonable and proportionate unit at the time and in the circumstances.— unit at the time and in the circumstances. itv bosses are, of ite— circumstances. itv bosses are, of course, due to— circumstances. itv bosses are, of course, due to be grilled in itiiitment— of course, due to be grilled in parliament next— of course, due to be grilled in parliament next week over itiiiiip— parliament next week over phillip schofield affair with the younger— phillip schofield affair with the younger male colleague at wort— the younger male colleague at wort ,— the younger male colleague at went , senten— the younger male colleague at work , senior leaders at the work, senior leaders at the broadcaster— work, senior leaders at the broadcaster are— work, senior leaders at the broadcaster are expected to appear— broadcaster are expected to appear tetare— broadcaster are expected to appear before mps on the entree,— appear before mps on the culture, media— appear before mps on the culture, media and sport committee— culture, media and sport committee on- culture, media and sport committee on tuesday, but that aneur— committee on tuesday, but that news about itv— committee on tuesday, but that news about itv bringing a barrister— news about itv bringing a barrister on— news about itv bringing a barrister on board to look into me— barrister on board to look into tne precise— barrister on board to look into the precise circumstances surrounding— the precise circumstances surrounding phillip schofield's tenanare— surrounding phillip schofield's

departure from _ surrounding phillip schofield's departure from itv is breaking ta— departure from itv is breaking to as in— departure from itv is breaking news to us in the— departure from itv is breaking news to us in the last 15 ninetee— news to us in the last 15 minutes or— news to us in the last 15 minutes or so,- news to us in the last 15 minutes or so, itv insisting it iii— minutes or so, itv insisting it iii at— minutes or so, itv insisting it iii at me— minutes or so, itv insisting it did at the time— minutes or so, itv insisting it did at the time investigate the nat— did at the time investigate the rumours. but both parties had denied— rumours. but both parties had denied it— rumours. but both parties had denied it and— rumours. but both parties had denied it and they ended their internat— denied it and they ended their internal investigation in more tetaii— internal investigation in more ietaii an— internal investigation in more detail on that,— internal investigation in more detail on that, of— internal investigation in more detail on that, of course, as it ta— detail on that, of course, as it comes to us. well,— detail on that, of course, as it comes to us. well, another treating— comes to us. well, another breaking news— comes to us. well, another breaking news this afternoon, eerie— breaking news this afternoon, boris johnson's— breaking news this afternoon, boris johnson's notebooks and wnateann— boris johnson's notebooks and wnateann-nare- boris johnson's notebooks and whatsapp have been whatsapp messages have been naniei— whatsapp messages have been naniet aver— whatsapp messages have been handed over to— whatsapp messages have been handed over to the cabinet entice.— handed over to the cabinet office. that's— handed over to the cabinet office. that's happened within the office. that's happened within tne tast— office. that's happened within the last hour.— office. that's happened within the last hour. a— office. that's happened within the last hour. a spokesman for the last hour. a spokesman for tne-rrine— the last hour. a spokesman for the prime minister saying the former prime minister saying he the former prime minister saying ne-aetaaiiy— the former prime minister saying he-actually asked— the former prime minister saying he actually asked for the he has actually asked for the tatt— he has actually asked for the taii ana— he has actually asked for the full and unredacted details to be disclosed— full and unredacted details to be disclosed urgently to the corre— be disclosed urgently to the corn inquiry.— be disclosed urgently to the covid inquiry. that's after the cabinet— covid inquiry. that's after the cabinet office— covid inquiry. that's after the cabinet office previously argued the cabinet office previously argued tne nateriai— cabinet office previously argued the material was— cabinet office previously argued the material was irrelevant. dawning— the material was irrelevant. downing street— the material was irrelevant. downing street is denying claims of downing street is denying claims at a— downing street is denying claims at a an— downing street is denying claims at a an .— downing street is denying claims of a cover up . the— downing street is denying claims of a cover up . the government of a cover up. the government nae— of a cover up. the government nae antit— of a cover up. the government has until tomorrow afternoon ta— has until tomorrow afternoon ta nann— has until tomorrow afternoon soon to hand over that evidence . nat— soon to hand over that evidence . eat me— soon to hand over that evidence nut tne ain— soon to hand over that evidence . but the main news today is tnat— . but the main news today is tnat a— . but the main news today is that a former— . but the main news today is that a former russian president has that a former russian president nae warned— that a former russian president has warned that— that a former russian president has warned that uk public attieiaie— has warned that uk public officials who— has warned that uk public officials who support ukraine are legitimate— officials who support ukraine are legitimate military targets . onitn— are legitimate military targets . dmitry medvedev, who's now tenan— . dmitry medvedev, who's now deputy chairman— . dmitry medvedev, who's now deputy chairman of the kremlin

security— deputy chairman of the kremlin security council,— deputy chairman of the kremlin security council, says any uk nititan— security council, says any uk niiitarr airi— security council, says any uk military aid to— security council, says any uk military aid to kyiv represents an undeclared— military aid to kyiv represents an undeclared war against itaeeia— an undeclared war against russia, calling— an undeclared war against russia, calling british officials _ russia, calling british officials goofy and an eternal enemy— officials goofy and an eternal eneny .— officials goofy and an eternal enemy . medvedev said that under enemy. medvedev said that under the enemy. medvedev said that under ine naeae— enemy. medvedev said that under ine nagae ant— enemy. medvedev said that under the hague and geneva conventions,- the hague and geneva conventions, the uk can be considered— conventions, the uk can be considered a— conventions, the uk can be considered a country at war. tanner— considered a country at war. former british— considered a country at war. former british army colonel nanien— former british army colonel nanien ae— former british army colonel hamish de bretton—gordon told gb tene— hamish de bretton—gordon told gb news tne— hamish de bretton—gordon told gb news the comments— hamish de bretton—gordon told gb news the comments aren't eanetning— news the comments aren't something to— news the comments aren't something to be concerned about . ta.— something to be concerned about . ta. they're— something to be concerned about . no, they're threats— something to be concerned about . no, they're threats of- something to be concerned about . \tr:::r . no, they're threats of nuclear attack. for the last 14 months have been, you know , a have been, you know, a completely vanishingly thin red line. so i think they're getting pretty desperate. they know that the counter—offensive is coming and they know that ourselves. the brits are providing a lot of hardware, a lot of intelligence use. and they think by threatening rmps, they're going to change their mind might work in russia . it won't work in this in russia. it won't work in this country. well, in russia. it won't work in this country . well, in other news country. well, in other news tetan— country. well, in other news todavr rai— rttitr. well, in other news today, rail passengers across tne— today, rail passengers across tne un— today, rail passengers across tne tin nave— today, rail passengers across the uk have been facing massive traver— the uk have been facing massive travel disruption— the uk have been facing massive travel disruption due to strike action— travel disruption due to strike action by— travel disruption due to strike action by me— travel disruption due to strike action by the aslef union

nernetr— action by the aslef union members have— action by the aslef union members have walked out today and members have walked out today ant are— members have walked out today ant eer— members have walked out today ant set to— members have walked out today and are set to do— members have walked out today and are set to do so again on sanitar— and are set to do so again on saturday. meanwhile, rmt union nernte— saturday. meanwhile, rmt union nernte witt— saturday. meanwhile, rmt union members will walk out on friday, eaueint— members will walk out on friday, eateing major— members will walk out on friday, causing major problems for tttttaii— causing major problems for football fans— causing major problems for football fans travelling to itnttn— football fans travelling to london for— football fans travelling to london for the _ football fans travelling to london for the fa cup at irentiey.— london for the fa cup at wembley. aslef general secretary iiiet— wembley. aslef general secretary iiiet wneian— wembley. aslef general secretary mick whelan accuses the government _ mick whelan accuses the government of- mick whelan accuses the government of not wanting a etiutitn— government of not wanting a solution, but— government of not wanting a solution, but the _ government of not wanting a solution, but the government has sait— solution, but the government has eait it— solution, but the government has eait it nae— solution, but the government has said it has facilitated a fair ant— said it has facilitated a fair and reasonable— said it has facilitated a fair and reasonable pay offer. said it has facilitated a fair and reasonable pay offer . all and reasonable pay offer. all tanne— and reasonable pay offer. all tariffs have— and reasonable pay offer. all tariffs have now— and reasonable pay offer. all tariffs have now been removed on totte— tariffs have now been removed on attte eattnet— tariffs have now been removed on goods exported from the uk to restrain— goods exported from the uk to australia and— goods exported from the uk to australia and new zealand. it's the australia and new zealand. it's tne tint— australia and new zealand. it's the first trade _ australia and new zealand. it's the first trade deal with the countries— the first trade deal with the countries to _ the first trade deal with the countries to come into effect in a tott— countries to come into effect in a poet trexit— countries to come into effect in a post brexit negotiation . asian a post brexit negotiation. asian enitnente— a post brexit negotiation. asian enitnente tr— a post brexit negotiation. asian shipments of british goods such as eitnet— shipments of british goods such as signed beano_ shipments of british goods such as signed beano comics are among the as signed beano comics are among tne tint— as signed beano comics are among tne tint rt— as signed beano comics are among tne tint to te— as signed beano comics are among the first to be sent— as signed beano comics are among the first to be sent under the new arrangement. it also means tnat— new arrangement. it also means tnat tet— new arrangement. it also means tnat itet tate— new arrangement. it also means that red tape will— new arrangement. it also means that red tape will be slashed for that red tape will be slashed ttr tititai— that red tape will be slashed for digital trade— that red tape will be slashed for digital trade and work visas. minister— for digital trade and work visas. minister for international trade nigel huddleston_ international trade nigel huddleston says the deal will tttet— huddleston says the deal will tttet tttn— huddleston says the deal will boost both goods and services intuetriee— boost both goods and services industries will— boost both goods and services industries will benefit every eintie— industries will benefit every eingie region— industries will benefit every single region and nation of the uk single region and nation of the in ant— single region and nation of the in ant it— single region and nation of the uk and it will— single region and nation of the

uk and it will add billions and tiiiitne— uk and it will add billions and tiiiitne tr— uk and it will add billions and billions of pounds to the uk etntrny— billions of pounds to the uk economy , which— billions of pounds to the uk economy , which surely is a good economy, which surely is a good tnint— economy, which surely is a good tnint . — economy, which surely is a good tnint . it— economy, which surely is a good tnint . it witt— economy, which surely is a good thing . it will make— economy, which surely is a good thing . it will make it- economy, which surely is a good thing . c cc c thing. it will make it easier for british producers to export because we're removing tariffs overseas and also easier as well because we're easing, for example, the border checks. and also it's not just for goods , also it's not just for goods, it's services as well that we're able to support overseas. so it's a really good news story for the british economy and to economic activity and to wages in the uk. so what's not like in the uk. so what's not to like now.7 a conservative in the uk. so what's not to like now? a conservative think tank is now? a conservative think tank ie stint— now? a conservative think tank is suing tne— now? a conservative think tank is etint tne us— , a conservative think tank is suing the us department of ntneiant— is suing the us department of homeland security to uncut over printe— homeland security to uncut over irinee tarry-e— homeland security to uncut over prince harry's immigration records, following revelations in nie— records, following revelations in nie tott— records, following revelations in his book spare that he took trite.— in his book spare that he took trite. ine— in his book spare that he took drugs. the heritage foundation wante— drugs. the heritage foundation nante rt— drugs. the heritage foundation wants to see— drugs. the heritage foundation wants to see the— drugs. the heritage foundation wants to see the records to trove— wants to see the records to prove it— wants to see the records to prove it tne — wants to see the records to prove if the admission was documented— prove if the admission was documented in— prove if the admission was documented in his us visa attiieatitn— documented in his us visa attiieatitn .— documented in his us visa application . the case will be application. the case will be neit— application. the case will be net in— application. the case will be net in a— application. the case will be held in a court— application. the case will be held in a court in— application. the case will be held in a court in washington, dc.— held in a court in washington, to in— held in a court in washington, to in front— held in a court in washington, dc, in front of— held in a court in washington, dc, in front of a— held in a court in washington, dc, in front of a us federal judge— dc, in front of a us federal judge next— dc, in front of a us federal judge next tuesday . the hearing judge next tuesday. the hearing will judge next tuesday. the hearing niii te— judge next tuesday. the hearing niii te tten— judge next tuesday. the hearing will be open to— judge next tuesday. the hearing will be open to the press . will be open to the press. iattur— will be open to the press. labour party— will be open to the press.

labour party donor dale vince eate— labour party donor dale vince eaye nett— labour party donor dale vince says he'll double— labour party donor dale vince says he'll double donations to the environmental protest group just stop— the environmental protest group net stop oii. — the environmental protest group just stop oil. his— the environmental protest group just stop oil. his comments come anit— just stop oil. his comments come amid controversy— just stop oil. his comments come amid controversy in— just stop oil. his comments come amid controversy in the labour party— amid controversy in the labour party ter— amid controversy in the labour party over donations as it also reeeivet— party over donations as it also received from _ party over donations as it also received from him. tory leaders nave— received from him. tory leaders nave eaiiet— received from him. tory leaders have called for— received from him. tory leaders have called for the labour ieatet— have called for the labour ieater. sir— have called for the labour leader, sir keir— have called for the labour leader, sir keir starmer, to retin— leader, sir keir starmer, to eurtn tne— leader, sir keir starmer, to return the funds from the donor. but return the funds from the donor. tut iattur-e— return the funds from the donor. but labour's nick— return the funds from the donor. but labour's nick thomas—symonds told but labour's nick thomas—symonds ttit ttc— but labour's nick thomas—symonds ttit ttc tene— but labour's nick thomas—symonds told bbc news his— but labour's nick thomas—symonds told bbc news his party has been extreneiy— told bbc news his party has been extremely clear— told bbc news his party has been extremely clear on— told bbc news his party has been extremely clear on their views ant— extremely clear on their views ant nieeet— extremely clear on their views and missed events. is perfectly entitiet— and missed events. is perfectly entitiet rt— and missed events. is perfectly entitled to give— and missed events. is perfectly entitled to give money to other causes . finally,— entitled to give money to other causes . finally, smoke from a causes. finally, smoke from a uiittire— causes. finally, smoke from a uiittire in— causes. finally, smoke from a wildfire in the— causes. finally, smoke from a wildfire in the highlands of settiant— wildfire in the highlands of scotland is— wildfire in the highlands of scotland is apparently visible tron— scotland is apparently visible from eaeet— scotland is apparently visible from space. the— scotland is apparently visible from space. the fire in the titte— from space. the fire in the hills above _ from space. the fire in the hills above loch- from space. the fire in the hills above loch ness is now in its ttunn— hills above loch ness is now in its ttunn day— hills above loch ness is now in its fourth day and— hills above loch ness is now in its fourth day and satellite images— its fourth day and satellite images tron— its fourth day and satellite images from nasa show the smoke tron— images from nasa show the smoke from rte— images from nasa show the smoke from tne tiaze— images from nasa show the smoke from the blaze, which covers tutt— from the blaze, which covers iuet ter— from the blaze, which covers just over three _ from the blaze, which covers just over three square miles trittint— just over three square miles drifting towards— just over three square miles drifting towards the loch . two drifting towards the loch. two tiretitntere— drifting towards the loch. two firefighters were _ drifting towards the loch. two firefighters were injured during the firefighters were injured during tne ineitent— firefighters were injured during the incident and— firefighters were injured during the incident and fire engines ant— the incident and fire engines and specialist— the incident and fire engines and specialist groups remain on . rture ut— and specialist groups remain on scene . you're up to date on tv scene. you're up to date on tv tniine— scene. you're up to date on tv tniine tatt— scene. you're up to date on tv online dab+ radio— scene. you're up to date on tv online dab+ radio and on the tune— online dab+ radio and on the tune in— online dab+ radio and on the tune in art.—

online dab+ radio and on the tune in app. this— online dab+ radio and on the tune in app. this is gb news. ine— tune in app. this is gb news. ine petite-e— tune in app. this is gb news. ine nettie-e .— the people's. channel inante— the people's. channel thanks for— the people's. channel thanks for that. the people's. channel- thanks for that. paulo. inaya michelle dewberry with you right through till 7:00 tonight alongside me, aaron bastani, the founder novara media, and ben founder of novara media, and ben habib, a former brexit party mep and the ceo of first property group . good evening, gents. group. good evening, gents. interesting mix tonight, not least because i do want to talk. did you see the story about labour wanting to, i would say seize property at below its possible value . they reckon that possible value. they reckon that thatis possible value. they reckon that that is one of the ways that we can get the housing situation under control in this country. is it can you imagine having land?i is it can you imagine having land? i don't know. and you think that one of these days when i get round to it, i might try and develop it. along comes someone and says, oh, no, matey boy, none of that potential all gone. it off you gone. we're taking it off you for the current market value.

what do you make that? what do you make to that? is it fair? that of the fair? is that one of the answers? and one of my panel will say, well, if you disagree with what would be your with that, what would be your solution you be solution then? what would you be doing kick start the housing doing to kick start the housing crisis country? get in crisis in this country? get in touch all the usual ways. gb views is the email views gb news .com is the email or can tweet me at gb news or you can tweet me at gb news news. but first i want to get something off my chest, if i may, because when you go shopping for your grub, do you want a side portion of wokeness with it? no. me neither. but increasingly i cannot help but nofice increasingly i cannot help but notice that that is what we're getting on the latest bandwagon jumpers innocent smoothie . jumpers innocent smoothie. they're proudly taught us recently on, you guessed it, their social media that it was idahobh their social media that it was idahobit day. now i've never heard of it either, but apparently it means international day against homophobia by phobia and transphobia . but if that's not transphobia. but if that's not all, in a very keen attempt to show us how virtuous they are, they turned to what they called they turned to what they called the legends at mermaids to tell

us how to speak. but not in a massive virtue signalling own goal that will be the same mermaids, by the way , who are mermaids, by the way, who are under investigation and the same mermaids accused of encouraging children to bind their chests and transition their gender behind their parents backs. now, having had all of this pointed out to them, they very quickly deleted the tweet and made a statement instead saying that the made were the comments made were not augned the comments made were not aligned with their values. of course, that'll be the same values which saw them sell their brands to the highest bidder, namely coca—cola, a company which more which does a lot more to contribute the obesity crisis contribute to the obesity crisis in than, frankly, i in this country than, frankly, i don't what values, don't know what great values, but if activism with your refreshments is your thing, then you're in luck. everybody because jerry's not because ben and jerry's not content with writing to do lists for our government. it is currently advertising for a full for our government. it is curre uk advertising for a full for our government. it is curre uk activisming for a full for our government. it is curre uk activism manager. ull for our government. it is curre uk activism manager. what? time uk activism manager. what? whatever happened to the old days of a simple whippy and a flake? but if you are like me, then buckle up everyone, because it's about to get a whole lot more ridiculous given it's

almost time for the holy month of pride. you know, the amazing opportunity for brands to make money who sleeps who , money off who sleeps with who, decking opportunity decking every single opportunity for their spots with rainbows whilst simultaneously ignoring often the fact that they sell their products in countries where people can be chucked in jail for being gay, or if they're really unlucky, even get chucked building. so chucked off a building. so please a break. brands please give me a break. brands are honestly in the spirit of ben and jerry. i've got a really simple list for you. it's simple to do list for you. it's really it has just one really simple. it has just one thing on it. spare us your lectures and focus just on the thing you're supposed do . thing you're supposed to do. making selling your products making and selling your products . if i may say so. aaron yeah, i think i make a very good point, but i just want to go shopping . but i just want to go shopping. i just want to buy the products that i like. i don't know, they might taste good and they might make me feel good . whatever. i make me feel good. whatever. i don't around spending my don't wander around spending my spare time looking at when i was

looking at ben and jerry's today for this job advert, they've got this whole list of value this whole list of their value as their causes. you know, they're against the rwanda plan packit they're against the rwanda plan pack it in. i want some ice cream . what do you think? where cream. what do you think? where would you draw the line,- f r:r:::r “

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sympathetic. i've tried to put myself the mindset of someone myself in the mindset of someone that perhaps doesn't the that perhaps doesn't like the rwanda i wouldn't sit rwanda plan. i wouldn't sit there. i wouldn't sit there and say, don't want people to say, yes, i don't want people to go so i'll buy that go to rwanda. so i'll buy that ice i wouldn't. so ice cream. i just wouldn't. so if wouldn't do that, if i wouldn't do that, if i supported that cause, why supported that cause, then why on earth would i do it if i didn't? and why, as a brand would you want to alienate potentially half your potentially half of your customer by getting customer base by getting involved in stuff? yeah. so involved in this stuff? yeah. so i think the prima— involved in this stuff? yeah. so i think the prima facia,- i think the prima facia, superficial— i think the prima facia, superficial reaction is one of eitner— superficial reaction is one of either astonishment or praise , either astonishment or praise, if either astonishment or praise, it you— either astonishment or praise, it you tite— either astonishment or praise, it you tite. it— either astonishment or praise, if you like, if you're part of ne— if you like, if you're part of tne grout— if you like, if you're part of tne grout ot— if you like, if you're part of the group of people that know, ton-t— the group of people that know, ton-t want— the group of people that know, don't want anyone to go to ituanta— don't want anyone to go to itnanta tut— don't want anyone to go to rwanda, but there's something muon— rwanda, but there's something much more serious behind aotuaiiy— much more serious behind actually what's— much more serious behind actually what's happening. iiionei— actually what's happening. michel here.— actually what's happening. michel here. and, you know, when i michel here. and, you know, when i etanet— michel here. and, you know, when i etanet in— michel here. and, you know, when i started in business, there were clear cut— i started in business, there were clear cut obligations that you— were clear cut obligations that you nat— were clear cut obligations that you nat ae— were clear cut obligations that you nat at a— were clear cut obligations that you had as a director of a company.— you had as a director of a company. vou— you had as a director of a company. you had to look after your— company. you had to look after your-your— company. you had to look after your your employees your creditors, your employees ant— your creditors, your employees ant your— your creditors, your employees and your shareholders. those are the and your shareholders. those are tne ttree— and your shareholders. those are the three, including the tax man vino-e— the three, including the tax man uno-e a— the three, including the tax man who's a creditor.— the three, including the tax man who's a creditor. obviously, the tax nan— who's a creditor. obviously, the tax man comes— who's a creditor. obviously, the tax man comes right at top, tax man comes right at the top, teiieve— tax man comes right at the top, teiievelor— tax man comes right at the top, believelor not,— tax man comes right at the top, believelor not, in— tax man comes right at the top, believe or not, in your believe it or not, in your obligations— believe it or not, in your obligations-a- believe it or not, in your obligations a director. but

obligations as a director. but tnrougn— obligations as a director. but tnrougn tne— obligations as a director. but through the if— obligations as a director. but through the if you like, the note— through the if you like, the woke ization_ through the if you like, the woke ization of— through the if you like, the woke ization of corporate life . woke ization of corporate life. otter— woke ization of corporate life. other obligations have crept in. ant— other obligations have crept in. ant in— other obligations have crept in. ant in ne— other obligations have crept in. and in the last— other obligations have crept in. and in the last ten years, eonetning— and in the last ten years, something called environmental, eoeiai— something called environmental, eooiai ant— something called environmental, social and corporate governance nae— social and corporate governance nae teoe— social and corporate governance has become almost de rigueur. if you want— has become almost de rigueur. if you want to— has become almost de rigueur. if you want to to— has become almost de rigueur. if you want to do business as a company.— you want to do business as a company. torrou— you want to do business as a company, borrow money, list your earene— company, borrow money, list your earene on me— company, borrow money, list your shares on the stock— company, borrow money, list your shares on the stock exchange , shares on the stock exchange, get— shares on the stock exchange, get outeite — shares on the stock exchange, get outside investors. you have to toiiou— get outside investors. you have to toiion ist— get outside investors. you have to follow esg principles . and to follow esg principles. and ist— to follow esg principles. and so it— to follow esg principles. and so it a— to follow esg principles. and esg is a mechanism that these institutions— esg is a mechanism that these institutions and— esg is a mechanism that these institutions and government guangoe— institutions and government guangoe nave— institutions and government quangos have created in order to trite— quangos have created in order to trite tneir— quangos have created in order to drive their social— quangos have created in order to drive their social agendas and ten— drive their social agendas and their environmental agendas tnrougn— their environmental agendas tnrougn to— their environmental agendas through to companies. it is the eooiai— through to companies. it is the social ization.— through to companies. it is the social ization. it— through to companies. it is the social ization. it is— through to companies. it is the social ization. it is the tunting— social ization. it is the dumbing down of capitalism. it's the dumbing down of capitalism. it's tne nit-acting— dumbing down of capitalism. it's tne niiaeting ot— dumbing down of capitalism. it's the hijacking of the profit motive— the hijacking of the profit notive ot— the hijacking of the profit motive of in— the hijacking of the profit motive of in order to deliver otter— motive of in order to deliver other outcomes— motive of in order to deliver other outcomes of a very toiitieai— other outcomes of a very political nature. so when eornantiee— political nature. so when companies like ben and jerry's cnatgtt— companies like ben and jerry's cnatgtt ant— companies like ben and jerry's chatgpt and lgbtq rights or unatever— chatgpt and lgbtq rights or unatever it— chatgpt and lgbtq rights or whatever it is,— chatgpt and lgbtq rights or

whatever it is, they're doing it witn— whatever it is, they're doing it nitn natt— whatever it is, they're doing it nitn nait an— whatever it is, they're doing it with half an eye— whatever it is, they're doing it with half an eye on what their ist— with half an eye on what their tst goats— with half an eye on what their iso goaie are— with half an eye on what their esg goals are and what their esg ratings— esg goals are and what their esg ratings are— esg goals are and what their esg ratinge going— esg goals are and what their esg ratings are going to be. contaniee— ratings are going to be. companies are actually rated on ttie— companies are actually rated on tnie. vou— companies are actually rated on this. you know,— companies are actually rated on this. you know, you— companies are actually rated on this. you know, you tick boxes saying.— this. you know, you tick boxes eaying. neit— this. you know, you tick boxes saying, well, i've— this. you know, you tick boxes saying, well, i've got i've got etnnio— saying, well, i've got i've got ethnic minorities— saying, well, i've got i've got ethnic minorities on the board. rye— ethnic minorities on the board. we got— ethnic minorities on the board. rye got women— ethnic minorities on the board. i've got women on the board. rye— i've got women on the board. we got— i've got women on the board. i've got someone— i've got women on the board. i've got someone who identifies as a different— i've got someone who identifies as a different gender on the toart— as a different gender on the toartlgot— as a different gender on the board. got employees from board. i've got employees from green— board. i've got employees from different ethnicities . i'm different ethnicities. i'm promoting— different ethnicities. i'm promoting lgbtq rights. you get titte— promoting lgbtq rights. you get tiote in— promoting lgbtq rights. you get tiote in ne— promoting lgbtq rights. you get ticks in the boxes— promoting lgbtq rights. you get ticks in the boxes for all of tie.— ticks in the boxes for all of tie ant— ticks in the boxes for all of tie ant ot— ticks in the boxes for all of this. and of course, all of this tietraote— this. and of course, all of this distracts from _ this. and of course, all of this distracts from making money and all distracts from making money and at ot— distracts from making money and at of tie— distracts from making money and at of tie it— distracts from making money and all of this is damaging, therefore,— all of this is damaging, therefore, to— all of this is damaging, therefore, to the economy. and tnat— therefore, to the economy. and tnat it— therefore, to the economy. and tnat it my— therefore, to the economy. and that is my concern. we are eooiat— that is my concern. we are eooiai. rising.— that is my concern. we are social, rising, corporate eatitaiiet— social, rising, corporate capitalist activity . we are capitalist activity. we are putting— capitalist activity. we are putting tne— capitalist activity. we are pulling the rug out from underneath— pulling the rug out from underneath the profit motive , underneath the profit motive, union— underneath the profit motive, union is— underneath the profit motive, union is eo— underneath the profit motive, which is so critical for the giving— which is so critical for the driving forward- which is so critical for the driving forward of the country. so driving forward of the country. so at— driving forward of the country. so at one— driving forward of the country. so at one level,— driving forward of the country. so at one level, you can look at unat— so at one level, you can look at unat ten— so at one level, you can look at unat ten ant— so at one level, you can look at what ben and jerry's are doing ant— what ben and jerry's are doing ant tutt— what ben and jerry's are doing ant iuet roti— what ben and jerry's are doing and just roll your— what ben and jerry's are doing and just roll your eyes and say, neit— and just roll your eyes and say, ueii. tn— and just roll your eyes and say, neii. in going— and just roll your eyes and say, well, i'm going to— and just roll your eyes and say, well, i'm going to buy their ice cream or not. but— well, i'm going to buy their ice cream or not. but at another revet— cream or not. but at another level, actually,— cream or not. but at another level, actually, seeing level, actually, you're seeing eonetning— level, actually, you're seeing something-quite- level, actually, you're seeing something quite damaging something really quite damaging to rte— something really quite damaging to tne unitet— something really quite damaging to the united kingdom indeed something really quite damaging to twesternd kingdom indeed something really quite damaging to twestern world dom indeed something really quite damaging to twestern world generally.�*ideed the western world generally. rean- —

the western world generally. yeah. -think- the western world generally. - yeah. -think-driving yeah. and i think who is driving this? who these companies this? who in these companies sits says, right, sits there and says, right, boss, i've cracked it and boss, today i've cracked it and how are we going to sell load how are we going to sell a load of squash up fruit in bottles? i know what we're to do, know what we're going to do, boss. going to go our boss. we're going to go to our social media and we're going boss. we're going to go to our soci mermaids.id we're going boss. we're going to go to our soci mermaids. it's/e're going boss. we're going to go to our soci mermaids. it's very going use mermaids. it's very questionable charity, to put it mildly, to get mildly, and we're going to get them to teach people to how talk. if someone came to me, if i was in charge of one of these companies, someone came to me with of suggestions, with those kind of suggestions, i'd laugh if i'm really sorry. i don't mean to be harsh, but i would. i would laugh would would. i would laugh and i would send person back out send that person back out there to desk tell them to to their desk and tell them to go again. and who gets to go figure again. and who gets to decide, by the way, which values are good and noble which are good and noble and which ones because some of are good and noble and which ones brands, because some of are good and noble and which ones brands, whenise some of are good and noble and which ones brands, when ie some of are good and noble and which ones brands, when i see me of are good and noble and which ones brands, when i see lookf are good and noble and which ones brands, when i see look at these brands, when i see look at brands, some of them boycott this channel, by way, this channel, by the way, because gb news because they'll say, oh, gb news doesn't with our values. doesn't align with our values. like get off, give me an absolute. well, the values are given—vou- absolute. well, the values are. given—you tnon. given to them, michel. you know, tney-ve— given to them, michel. you know, tney-ve-trive— given to them, michel. you know, they've drive towards net they've got to drive towards net .ean-t— they've got to drive towards net zero. can't disagree with zero. you can't disagree with net— zero. you can't disagree with net-it— zero. you can't disagree with net-it-nant- zero. you can't disagree with net-if-want to- zero. you can't disagree with net if want to comply net zero if you want to comply nitn — net zero if you want to comply nitn ist. — net zero if you want to comply nitn ist. vou— net zero if you want to comply with esg. you that's with esg. you know, that's tnat-e— with esg. you know, that's tnat-e-tint— with esg. you know, that's that's-kind of- with esg. you know, that's that's kind of hijacking that's the kind of hijacking tnat-e—

that's the kind of hijacking tnat-e-on. - that's the kind of hijacking that's-on. well,- that's the kind of hijacking that's on. eunice that's the kind of hijacking- that's-on. well, you know that's going on. well, you know what? and what? never mind, ben and jerry's, everyone. we've jerry's, everyone. look, we've got an even better version, haven't we've got ben haven't we? we've got ben and aaron. better. you aaron. that's even better. you didn't bring ice cream or anything that. but want anything like that. but i want to thoughts about this to know your thoughts about this at i stand by, at home. as i said, stand by, because imminently going because imminently it's going to because imminently it's going to be you won't be be pride month. you won't be able rainbows when able to move for rainbows when you just want to go and do your shopping. i don't care who you're with, i just you're sleeping with, i just want get my tin of want to go and get my tin of baked beans and be left alone, quite frankly. as i said, quite frankly. and as i said, the hypocrisy some of these the hypocrisy of some of these brands celebrating pride, for example, simultaneously brands celebrating pride, for example,their simultaneously brands celebrating pride, for example,their simtinaneously brands celebrating pride, for example,their simtin placesy brands celebrating pride, for examppeople simtin placesy brands celebrating pride, for examppeople willmtin placesy brands celebrating pride, for examppeople willmtiseriouslyf where people will be seriously harmed being gay to me is harmed for being gay to me is laughable . make of it what you laughable. make of it what you will. get in touch though all the usual ways. got lots coming up. i want to talk to you about labour's plan to seize land compulsory purchasing at below its possible value to help the housing situation in this country . would you back that or country. would you back that or not? also the guy that's bankrolling just stop oil giving money to the labour party. good idea. or not? all of that's come

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again, you're listening to gb aene— again, you're listening to gb uene itatio— again, you're listening to gb uene itatio .— again, you're listening to gb news radio . _ again, you're listening to gb news radio . stirii; again, you're listening to gb news radio . sr:i;”r:i; news radio. hello there. i'm michelle dewberry keeping you company till 7:00 tonight. i've just been ranting about ben and jerry's and gone one step better because keeping me company is ben and aaron and aaron bastani, of course, the founder of novara media, and ben habib, the former brexit party mep, and the ceo of first property group . now, first property group. now, everybody, look, i've got some good news for you because you will be aware that a topic i have ranted about frequently as well what i would now well is the what i would now call just stop call eco terrorist. just stop oil blocking the streets. many of us have been shouting to the police in this country what are you doing? get them off the road. take your lead from places like germany . et cetera. get like germany. et cetera. get them moved. well, get this, everyone. look, the police moved them. watch . there you go. look

them. watch. there you go. look at that, sir. on the plus- " grit look at that, sir. on the plus side, i at that, sir. on the plus side, i nean— at that, sir. on the plus side, i iet-e— at that, sir. on the plus side, i mean, let's give— at that, sir. on the plus side, i mean, let's give a little bit of i mean, let's give a little bit or positivity— i mean, let's give a little bit of positivity credit where it's tue— of positivity credit where it's tue at— of positivity credit where it's tue at iaet. — of positivity credit where it's due at last. wig : of positivity credit where it's due at last. rig : due at last. everybody, we saw a british police officer moving, a protester out the way, massive floor in the plan, though, they actually moved them to the middle of the road instead of to the other side, i.e. off the road. i honestly can't fathom what goes on sometimes because how difficult can it to be make them get off the road rather than more central to them? i speak of just stop oil, by the way, because labour party say it's perfectly fine to take money from the man who bankrolled in part, just stop oil kwasi talk about dale vince. he's given about £1.4 million. yes you heard me. million pounds to the labour party since 2014 when the government here is saying that labour party should return that money because they reckon it legitimises just stop oil's tactics. what do you reckon, ben? well, i'm very troubled by the labour party

taking , you know, large sums of taking, you know, large sums of money from people who have a vested interest in closing down the oil and gas sector. and, you know, we've had— the oil and gas sector. and, you know, we've had kyiv— e d and, you know, we've had kyiv starmer, uno— know, we've had kyiv starmer, nno oouit— know, we've had kyiv starmer, who could potentially be. ' ”iii: who could potentially be. are you— who could potentially be. are you worriet— who could potentially be. are you worried about— who could potentially be. are you worried about them taking money from people? they've got a vested interest elsewhere or just the energy? well, i mean, the just the energy? well, i mean, tne oase— just the energy? well, i mean, tne in— just the energy? well, i mean, the case in point— just the energy? well, i mean, the case in point is— just the energy? well, i mean, the case in point is the- rir�*rircwr7’ well, i mean, the case in point is the oil and gas— the case in point is the oil and gas eeerto— the case in point is the oil and gas eto tut— the case in point is the oil and gas sector, but yeah, from any oontiiotet— gas sector, but yeah, from any conflicted individual and i tnint— conflicted individual and i tnint tne— conflicted individual and i think the conservative party, in — think the conservative party, in not— think the conservative party, in not ston— think the conservative party, i'm not short of— think the conservative party, i'm not short of criticism of ne— i'm not short of criticism of the conservative _ i'm not short of criticism of the conservative party on that front — the conservative party on that front vou— the conservative party on that front. you know,— the conservative party on that front. you know, they take money tron— front. you know, they take money tron riot— front. you know, they take money from rich donors— front. you know, they take money from rich donors all— front. you know, they take money from rich donors all the time ant— from rich donors all the time ant tnere— from rich donors all the time and there must— from rich donors all the time and there must be masses of conflict— and there must be masses of eontiiot ot— and there must be masses of conflict of interest, which, you know.— conflict of interest, which, you know,-incredibly- know, must be incredibly tittieuit— know, must be incredibly difficult to _ know, must be incredibly difficult to navigate. but you know.— difficult to navigate. but you know. tutt— difficult to navigate. but you know, just coming back to this story.— know, just coming back to this story. keir— know, just coming back to this story, keir starmer, could is iiteiy— story, keir starmer, could is iiteiy to— story, keir starmer, could is iiteiy to te— story, keir starmer, could is likely to be the— story, keir starmer, could is likely to be the next prime minister— likely to be the next prime minister and— likely to be the next prime minister and in— likely to be the next prime minister and in the middle of a cost— minister and in the middle of a cost ot— minister and in the middle of a cost ot tying— minister and in the middle of a cost of living crisis— minister and in the middle of a cost of living crisis caused by rampant— cost of living crisis caused by rantant tuei— cost of living crisis caused by rampant fuel price increases as a reeuit— rampant fuel price increases as a reeuit ot— rampant fuel price increases as a result of what— rampant fuel price increases as a result of what we did in ioottoun— a result of what we did in lockdown. and— a result of what we did in lockdown. and then the ukraine ne— lockdown. and then the ukraine ne wante— lockdown. and then the ukraine war. he wants to— lockdown. and then the ukraine war. he wants to shut down access to natural resources at tooreten— access to natural resources at our doorstep, which we, the

tuition— our doorstep, which we, the british people,— our doorstep, which we, the british people, own . and gas, by british people, own. and gas, by the british people, own. and gas, by tne nay— british people, own. and gas, by tne nay .— british people, own. and gas, by tne nay . it— british people, own. and gas, by tne way . ie not— british people, own. and gas, by the way , is not a— british people, own. and gas, by the way , is not a very polluting the way, is not a very polluting tuei— the way, is not a very polluting tuei .— the way, is not a very polluting tuei . ine— the way, is not a very polluting tuei . ine tu— the way, is not a very polluting fuel . the eu itself, this fuel. the eu itself, this vinuoue— fuel. the eu itself, this virtuous entity, the eu itself , virtuous entity, the eu itself, noting— virtuous entity, the eu itself, was moving towards legitimising gas was moving towards legitimising gae ae— was moving towards legitimising gas at a— was moving towards legitimising gas at a green— was moving towards legitimising gas as a green fuel before the nation— gas as a green fuel before the ot— gas as a green fuel before the invasion of ukraine. and so youe— invasion of ukraine. and so you got— invasion of ukraine. and so you got to— invasion of ukraine. and so you've got to join the dots in tneee— you've got to join the dots in tneee tinte— you've got to join the dots in these kinds of— you've got to join the dots in these kinds of debates and tigure— these kinds of debates and tigure out— these kinds of debates and figure out why— these kinds of debates and figure out why is it that trainer— figure out why is it that starmer would wilfully do so muon— starmer would wilfully do so nuon tanage— starmer would wilfully do so much damage to— starmer would wilfully do so much damage to our self—sufficiency in energy dodi ureter— self—sufficiency in energy dodi uneeei nee— self—sufficiency in energy dodi unless he's getting why would he do unless he's getting why would he to it— unless he's getting why would he to it e— unless he's getting why would he to it e inere-e— unless he's getting why would he do it ? there's got— unless he's getting why would he do it ? there's got to be some do it? there's got to be some reason he should— do it? there's got to be some reason he should give the cash tact.— reason he should give the cash tact. i— reason he should give the cash tact. i tnint— reason he should give the cash back. i think he— reason he should give the cash back. i think he should give the east— back. i think he should give the east tact— back. i think he should give the east tack on— back. i think he should give the cash back on juiced up oil, by me— cash back on juiced up oil, by tne nay.— cash back on juiced up oil, by tne way. i— cash back on juiced up oil, by the way, i think— cash back on juiced up oil, by the way, i think they're a tantaetio— the way, i think they're a fantastic advertisement for the oil fantastic advertisement for the oii-gae— fantastic advertisement for the oil-gas industry.- fantastic advertisement for the oil gas industry. the more oil and gas industry. the more i eaten.— oil and gas industry. the more i naton tutt— oil and gas industry. the more i watch, just stop— oil and gas industry. the more i watch, just stop oil. more watch, just stop oil. the more i tnint—te- watch, just stop oil. the more i tnint—te tutt- think people must be just hopping— think people must be just homing-and- think people must be just hopping and down think people must be just hopping-and down get hopping up and down saying, get rid hopping up and down saying, get it ot— hopping up and down saying, get it ot tneee— hopping up and down saying, get rid of these lunatics . i want to rid of these lunatics. i want to tate— rid of these lunatics. i want to taoe ny— rid of these lunatics. i want to taoe ny titt— rid of these lunatics. i want to face my fill-car- rid of these lunatics. i want to face my fill car with gas. face my fill my car with gas. if face my fill my car with gas. it anyone— face my fill my car with gas. it anyone out— face my fill my car with gas. if anyone out-that- if anyone out there that supports their methods or their message, you might message, actually you might support 2 other. i don't support 1 or 2 other. i don't know . i know what i would know. i don't know what i would do if one of these groups slow

marched in front of me. if i had somewhere i needed to be. i worry that i'd probably end up in prison or something because i don't think it's appropriate, except double or anything now to be doing what you're doing for the amount time that you are the amount of time that you are now it. do. i liken it now doing it. i do. i liken it now doing it. i do. i liken it now to of eco terrorism. now to a form of eco terrorism. you're trying to literally bring the country to standstill as you're trying to literally bring the ccastry to standstill as you're trying to literally bring the ccas possible itandstill as you're trying to literally bring the ccas possible totdstill as you're trying to literally bring the ccas possible to implement often as possible to implement also, sorry, influence political outcome in this country is wrong. . stop oil. this wrong. so unjust. stop oil. this is a teaoetui— wrong. so unjust. stop oil. this is a peaceful tactic. _ wrong. so unjust. stop oil. this is a peaceful tactic. it's- g l. stop oil. this is a peaceful tactic. it's not iantui— is a peaceful tactic. it's not iantui .— is a peaceful tactic. it's not iantui . tut— is a peaceful tactic. it's not lawful , but it's— is a peaceful tactic. it's not lawful , but it's peaceful. lawful, but it's peaceful. inatt— lawful, but it's peaceful. that's that's— lawful, but it's peaceful. that's that's an important tning. — that's that's an important tning. so— that's that's an important tning. so i— that's that's an important thing. so i think that. but it's not peacetui— thing. so i think that. but it's not peaceful because it's creating carnage. when you look at that are getting. at the people that are getting. vandalism, vandalism, they're not—ttey-rel vandalism, vandalism, they're. not—they're not. not destroying. no, they're not. it's not criminal damage. they're not destroying property or would or you know, so i would i would draw a there. you can say draw a line there. you can say it's wrong. say it's it's wrong. you can say it's counterproductive. you can say it's illegal. say it's illegal. you can say they should prison, all that. should go to prison, all that. but do vandalise property. but they do vandalise property. well, think they weren't well, i think they weren't there. i think there is a big distinction between damage, criminal, criminal damage, property and they're criminal, criminal damage, propertyand they're doing. persons and what they're doing. they're not doing either of

those terrorism those two. so terrorism generally one of those generally is one of those first two they are provoking two on, but they are provoking a deliberate reaction by slow marching front of traffic. marching in front of traffic. and it's an absolute and i think it's an absolute niraoie— and i think it's an absolute miracle-nobody- and i think it's an absolute miracle nobody been miracle that nobody has been nun—can- miracle that nobody has been nun—can say.- miracle that nobody has beenj hurt—can say, oh, hurt because you can say, oh, yes,— hurt because you can say, oh, yes-at— hurt because you can say, oh, yet-at tnoee— hurt because you can say, oh, yes, at those people yes, look at those people innooentiy— yes, look at those people innocently meander walking along the innocently meander walking along tne-ioot— innocently meander walking along rte-toot at— innocently meander walking along the-look at how— innocently meander walking along the look at how sweet and the road, look at how sweet and innocent— the road, look at how sweet and innocent ant— the road, look at how sweet and innocent and peaceful they are. but innocent and peaceful they are. tut ty— innocent and peaceful they are. tut ty toing— innocent and peaceful they are. but by doing that,— innocent and peaceful they are. but by doing that, the level of tury— but by doing that, the level of tury-oarnage— but by doing that, the level of fury-carnage and- but by doing that, the level of fury carnage and anger that fury and carnage and anger that tney— fury and carnage and anger that tney are— fury and carnage and anger that they are creating— fury and carnage and anger that they are creating directly as a consequence , that is the bit consequence, that is the bit tnat-e— consequence, that is the bit tnat-e not— consequence, that is the bit that's not peaceful and all the teet— that's not peaceful and all the rest ot— that's not peaceful and all the rest ot it. — that's not peaceful and all the rest of it. but— that's not peaceful and all the rest of it. but if— that's not peaceful and all the rest of it. �*" srirri; that's not peaceful and all the rest of it. �*" stiii; ririiii; rest of it. but if there were people, for instance, doing something similar and they said we of hunting, we want a return of fox hunting, you jacob rees—mogg you know, and jacob rees—mogg was going, these people are wonderful. would obviously wonderful. i would obviously be inconvenienced, i think, oh, god. know, god. but, you know, realistically have a realistically i'm i might have a journey obstructed for 20 minutes know i it minutes once, you know i is it really going to upset me that much? i've been traffic much? i've been in traffic jams much? i've been in traffic jams much that. it would much longer than that. it would have holiday. it have have been holiday. it would have you nat— have been holiday. it would have you nat to— have been holiday. it would have you nat to tate— have been holiday. it would have you had to take your— have been holiday. it would have you had to take your wife- " can it would have you had to take your wife to noetitai— you had to take your wife to noetitai or— you had to take your wife to noetitai or a— you had to take your wife to hospital or a loved one, of course, of course. whatever. inatt— course, of course. whatever. that's-though. . that's unusual, though. but of course, you're right— that's unusual, though. but of course, you're right there. yeah. what about this cash yeah. so what about this cash then, about then, specifically about this cash? people hands

cash? people like greg hands saying—te- cash? people like greg hands. saying—be handed saying that it should be handed tact— saying that it should be handed taet to— saying that it should be handed back to delve _ saying that it should be handed back to delve in. _ saying that it should be handed back to delve in. : .7’ back to delve in. should it? well, i'm not surprised because the are in the you the tories are in the red. you know, they're very much in trouble comes to their trouble when it comes to their own funding. they're own funding. so they're coming after i'd have after labour. i suppose i'd have after labour. i suppose i'd have a really for the a question really for the conservatives, which is you don't money don't like labour taking money off the trade unions. we've established you don't like established that you don't like them membership, them having a mass membership, so want money from the them having a mass membership, so membership.noney from the them having a mass membership, so membership. we've from the mass membership. we've established can't established that now. they can't take from high net worth take money from high net worth individuals. so where is the labour meant to money labour party meant to take money from? how they meant from? how do they how they meant to staff? how they to employ staff? how are they meant to national campaigns? meant to run national campaigns? is it the conservatives said is it the conservatives who said tney— is it the conservatives who saidi tney—tron they shouldn't take money from they shouldn't take money from tne—tnat- the unions? i thought that was a mat— the unions? i thought that was a ma nae— the unions? i thought that was a ma waleeii— the unions? i thought that was a that was keir starmer kind of that was a keir starmer kind of inetiret— that was a keir starmer kind of inetiret. neit— that was a keir starmer kind of inspired. well, no,— that was a keir starmer kind of inspired. well, no, think keir inspired. well, no, i think keir trainer— inspired. well, no, i think keir trainer-to— inspired. well, no, i think keir starmer-to bash- inspired. well, no, i think keir starmer to bash the starmer likes to bash the unions,-he's- starmer likes to bash the unions, he's very happy to unions, but he's very happy to tate— unions, but he's very happy to take tneir— unions, but he's very happy to take their money. oqeq take their money. okay, so i it— take their money. okay, so i its an— take their money. okay, so i it's an interesting i think it's an interesting one. i think i why you would i can understand why you would be sceptical about policy capture, right? because guy capture, right? because this guy is industry and you're is in an industry and you're worried well, he's worried that, well, he's basically buying access to a certain policy which is certain policy outcome which is really i had certain policy outcome which is reaimportant i had certain policy outcome which is reaimportant caveat i had certain policy outcome which is reaimportant caveat to i had certain policy outcome which is reaimportant caveat to that, had certain policy outcome which is reaimportant caveat to that, and an important caveat to that, and it's really justified concern. it's a really justified concern. and way, some would argue

and by the way, some would argue that personally could stand that him personally could stand to financially benefit. exactly. he's selling ecotricity. think is in ecotricity. and i think he is in the process selling the process of selling ecotricity because he ecotricity precisely because he wants or more wants to make more or more donations and more donations and become more politically involved in this sector. i think sector. and i think he understands the conflict of interest. of course, that sale understands the conflict of inteihindered ourse, that sale understands the conflict of inteihindered ourithe hat sale was hindered by the extraordinary volatility saw was hindered by the ex'energy ary volatility saw was hindered by the ex'energy ary vtheility saw was hindered by the ex'energy ary vthe last saw was hindered by the ex'energy ary vthe last 12 saw in energy over the last 12 months. i think that's months. but i think that's really think vince, who, really i think dale vince, who, by the way, remarkable personal story he's made a hell of a lot by the way, remarkable personal st(money made a hell of a lot by the way, remarkable personal st(money offide a hell of a lot by the way, remarkable personal st(money off hisa hell of a lot by the way, remarkable personal st(money off his own l of a lot by the way, remarkable personal st(money off his own backi lot by the way, remarkable personal st(money off his own back really of money off his own back really grafted as well from a very normal working background normal working class background as think he wants to as a kid. i think he wants to become more involved in politics, he's looking to get politics, so he's looking to get rid ecotricity. i beg to rid of ecotricity. i beg to differ, rid of ecotricity. i beg to. differ,_that's differ, says michelle. that's not—ny- differ, says michelle. that'sj not—my viewers. differ, says michelle. that's- not_my viewers. what not me. one of my viewers. what is not me. one of my viewers. what it tnroning— not me. one of my viewers. what is throwing paint— not me. one of my viewers. what is throwing paint over paintings . gartens— is throwing paint over paintings , gardens, buildings, etcetera. if , gardens, buildings, etcetera. it ite— , gardens, buildings, etcetera. it its not— , gardens, buildings, etcetera. if it's not criminal damage, but tnat-e— if it's not criminal damage, but tnat-e tne— if it's not criminal damage, but that's the point,— if it's not criminal damage, but that's the point, michelle, i tnint— that's the point, michelle, i tnint tnat— that's the point, michelle, i think that you're making that tnat— think that you're making that tnat stutt— think that you're making that that stuff you— think that you're making that that stuff you would class, surety— that stuff you would class, eureiy tnat— that stuff you would class, surely that is— that stuff you would class, surely that is criminal damage. teat— surely that is criminal damage. yethiwts— surely that is criminal damage. yeahlwas those— surely that is criminal damage. yeah .was those those- surely that is criminal damage. yeah it was those those chaps on the. yeah would class that yeah it was those those chaps on thecriminal would class that yeah it was those those chaps on thecriminal damage class that yeah it was those those chaps on thecriminal damage class tithink as criminal damage do you think i'm a bit extreme with my i'm a little bit extreme with my sentiment because i do now i find this a form of eco terrorism. i think it's gone

teyont— terrorism. i think it's gone teyont tutt— terrorism. i think it's gone beyond just your- i think it's gone beyond just your right to protest. — beyond just your right to protest. i— beyond just your right to protest. i think it's gone teyont— protest. i think it's gone teyont iuet— protest. i think it's gone beyond just you landing point. beyond just you landing a point. it's beyond just you landing a point. rte-tar.— beyond just you landing a point. rte-tar. ant— beyond just you landing a point. it's-far. and the- it's gone too far. and the tenants— it's gone too far. and the demands demand that you do demands we demand that you do ttis— demands we demand that you do nit-toot.— demands we demand that you do tnielioet. i— demands we demand that you do this,-lost. i couldn't- demands we demand that you do this, lost. i couldn't agree this, get lost. i couldn't agree i— this, get lost. i couldn't agree more. i mean, i— this, get lost. i couldn't agree more. .. more. i mean, i would have zero tolerance to someone blocking the and i don't . it is the road. and i don't. it is possible. michelle, the policeman , was deliberately policeman, was deliberately dragging the middle of dragging him into the middle of the might have had a the road. he might have had a vindictive aim. i don't know if i can i don't know if i can get that clip back on. but if i can get tnat— that clip back on. but if i can get tnat etio— that clip back on. but if i can get that clip back— that clip back on. but if i can get that clip back on,- rte i but if i can get that clip back on, it's, um. i get that clip back on, it's, um. i an— get that clip back on, it's, um. i an not— get that clip back on, it's, um. i an not a— get that clip back on, it's, um. i am not a police— get that clip back on, it's, um. i am not a police officer, i must— i am not a police officer, i must confess,— i am not a police officer, i must confess, and have i must confess, and nor have i teenla— must confess, and nor have i ever been a police unit ever been in a police unit trietet— ever been in a police unit briefed. but— ever been in a police unit briefed. but i— ever been in a police unit briefed. but i have a small briefed. but i do have a small tragnent— briefed. but i do have a small fragment common sense. so fragment of common sense. so evenluitnout— fragment of common sense. so even .without any— fragment of common sense. so even without any training as even i, without any training as a—uouit- even i, without any training as a—nouit eureiyl a police officer, would surely unteretant— a police officer, would surely understand the— a police officer, would surely understand the very basic, which is understand the very basic, which ie-going— understand the very basic, which ie-going to— understand the very basic, which is-going to remove- is if i'm going to remove a protester.— is if i'm going to remove a troteeter. you — is if i'm going to remove a protester, you know, i'm going to use— protester, you know, i'm going to a— protester, you know, i'm going to use a brain— protester, you know, i'm going to use a brain cell— protester, you know, i'm going to use a brain cell and move tnen— to use a brain cell and move tnen away— to use a brain cell and move them away from _ to use a brain cell and move them away from the road. so what has them away from the road. so what nae gone— them away from the road. so what has gone-there?— them away from the road. so what has gone there? why would has gone on there? why would tnat—tnat- that copper think that a eeneitie— that copper think that a sensible manoeuvre would to sensible manoeuvre would be to putt— sensible manoeuvre would be to putt tnen— sensible manoeuvre would be to putt ten in— sensible manoeuvre would be to putt tnen in to— sensible manoeuvre would be to pull them in to the road? i ton-t— pull them in to the road? i ton-t know— pull them in to the road? i ton-t tnon .— pull them in to the road? i don't know . some. sometimes i don't know. some. sometimes i do. don't know. some. sometimes i to. i— don't know. some. sometimes i to. rust— don't know. some. sometimes i to. iiuet tnint— don't know. some. sometimes i do. i just think this world is going— do. i just think this world is going absolutely crackers. you

te— going absolutely crackers. you te tne— going absolutely crackers. you can be the judge. _ going absolutely crackers. you can be the judge. you can have the can be the judge. you can have tne tinai— can be the judge. you can have tne tinai eay. — can be the judge. you can have the final say. i've— can be the judge. you can have the final say. i've got a question— the final say. i've got a question for— the final say. i've got a question for you though. do you tnint— question for you though. do you tnint tne— question for you though. do you think the labour— question for you though. do you think the labour party is right to suggest— think the labour party is right to suggest that— think the labour party is right to suggest that someone that tant— to suggest that someone that owns land should be forced, eeeentiaiiy— owns land should be forced, essentially compulsory purchase otter— essentially compulsory purchase orterto— essentially compulsory purchase orter to eeri— essentially compulsory purchase order to sell that— essentially compulsory purchase order to sell that land at below its toeeitie— order to sell that land at below its possible value,— order to sell that land at below its possible value, all in pursuit— its possible value, all in tureuit ot— its possible value, all in pursuit of revitalising the touting— pursuit of revitalising the housing sector ? what do you housing sector? what do you tnint— housing sector? what do you think common— housing sector? what do you think common sense or stealing? you reit— think common sense or stealing? you teii ne— think common sense or stealing? you tell me. all— think common sense or stealing? you tell me. all the— think common sense or stealing? you tell me. all the usual ways ant— you tell me. all the usual ways ant iti— you tell me. all the usual ways ant it see— you tell me. all the usual ways and i'll see you— you tell me. all the usual ways and i'll see you for—

from 11 on gb news britain's news . channel— from 11 on gb news britain's news . channel hello there. news. channel hello there. ireioone— news. channel hello there. iieioone to— news. channel hello there. welcome to dewbs& co with me iiieneiie— welcome to dewbs& co with me michelle dewberry— welcome to dewbs& co with me michelle dewberry right through till michelle dewberry right through it troo— michelle dewberry right through till 7:00 tonight— michelle dewberry right through till 7:00 tonight alongside me, aaron— till 7:00 tonight alongside me, aaron bastani— till 7:00 tonight alongside me, aaron bastani ,_ till 7:00 tonight alongside me, aaron bastani , the founder of aaron bastani, the founder of uoara— aaron bastani, the founder of novara media,— aaron bastani, the founder of novara media, and ben habib, a tonne— novara media, and ben habib, a tone trexit— novara media, and ben habib, a former brexit party mep and the cro— former brexit party mep and the cm ot— former brexit party mep and the cm ot tint— former brexit party mep and the ceo of first property group. one— ceo of first property group. onewi-ewen- ceo of first property group. one -viewers on - ceo of first property group. | one -viewers on twitter ceo of first property group. - one -viewers on twitter has one of my viewers on twitter has said, michel, reason that said, michel, the reason that the officer was moving the police officer was moving them the middle of the road them to the middle of the road was apparently they'd was because apparently they'd agreed bus lane agreed to keep the bus lane clear . that still agreed to keep the bus lane clear. that still makes no sense

to me whatsoever because if you're bus lane is on the side of the road, the best, easiest way to keep the bus lane clear is just to pull them to the pavement. but i am not getting why was into why the pulling motion was into the middle of the road. if you know the answer to that, get in touch. we've been talking touch. we've just been talking as brands virtue as well about brands virtue signalling hypocrisy as well. have you asked me talking about things like pride month and all have you asked me talking about thinrest ke pride month and all have you asked me talking about thinrest of pride month and all have you asked me talking about thinrest of it?de month and all have you asked me talking about thinrest of it? peterinth and all have you asked me talking about thin rest of it? peter saysind all the rest of it? peter says michel, i seem to have missed it, but do know when it, but do you know when heterosexual day is ? don't . heterosexual day is? i don't. it's every day. i was going to say,— it's every day. i was going to say. most— it's every day. i was going to say. most i— it's every day. i was going to say. not i see— it's every day. i was going to say, most i see what- e 3 can i was going to say, most i see what you did ttere— say, most i see what you did tnere. — say, most i see what you did tnere. ite— say, most i see what you did there. it's like— say, most i see what you did there. it's like when- say, most i see what you did there. . l “ i“ri“ say, most i see what you did there. . l “ i“ti“ there. it's like when men say about international women's day and they say, well, when is international men's day? but i do has got a slight do think pete has got a slight point because is so much point because there is so much celebrating minority celebrating of minority groups here, everywhere . here, there and everywhere. nothing with that, by the nothing wrong with that, by the way. are asking me way. but people are asking me like just touch like someone just got in touch and said, how come, example, and said, how come, for example, pride but veterans pride is a month, but veterans day, is just a day day, for example, is just a day . what about giving those guys slightly longer? cetera . slightly longer? et cetera. gareth says as a sensible gay

man, please, can you continue to highlight your views on ben and jerry's ? i cannot stomach their jerry's? i cannot stomach their work ideology . all nonsense. i work ideology. all nonsense. i shall do my best. don't you worry. carol said there needs to keep their beaks out of things that have nothing to do with them. asked this brands and them. who asked this brands and nikki, smart woman, nikki, you're a smart woman, nikki, you're a smart woman, nikki, the point you say, nikki, to the point you say, i just want my banks to do my banking, my drink companies to make nice drinks, my ticket companies to sell tickets, and the , etcetera, to make the nhs, etcetera, to make poorly better. please can poorly people better. please can people stick with their primary functions ? i've got to say, it's functions? i've got to say, it's like when you go to a sports match these days, isn't it what you have the knee taking at the beginning in your beginning you have in your pamphlets this cause that cause people you just want to go and see match. you see a football match. do you not? i'm wrong. you tell not? maybe i'm wrong. you tell me. talk property, shall me. let's talk property, shall we? seen the we? because have you seen the latest from the labour latest proposal from the labour party? all about basically party? it's all about basically compulsory orders for compulsory purchase orders for land. you have something at the moment called and this is a tncky moment called and this is a tricky one for my accent. i confess this, but a herp value

which is basically the potential value of what you could make on your land if you were to develop on it. labour have got a bright idea what they're saying is that essentially you could give councils power to buy that councils the power to buy that land at the cheap rate , i.e. not land at the cheap rate, i.e. not the potential rate. it's all about boosting housebuilding. what do you make to it? aaron well, it's interesting . i mean, well, it's interesting. i mean, it's broadly more— “r; imean, it's broadly more aligned with the it's broadly more aligned with tne attroaen— it's broadly more aligned with the approach in— it's broadly more aligned with the approach in germany where tney— the approach in germany where tney to— the approach in germany where tney to tuit— the approach in germany where they do build more homes. they ton-t— they do build more homes. they ton-t nave— they do build more homes. they don't have the— they do build more homes. they don't have the housing crisis or a touting— don't have the housing crisis or a housing crisis— don't have the housing crisis or a housing crisis on— don't have the housing crisis or a housing crisis on a par with wnat— a housing crisis on a par with wnat we— a housing crisis on a par with wnat we-ant- a housing crisis on a par with what we and there's also what we have. and there's also a nntorio— what we have. and there's also a historic precedent. _ what we have. and there's also a historic precedent. so immediately following the second wont—ot- world war, there were lots of eontunory— world war, there were lots of. eontuieory—ant compulsory purchase orders and were— compulsory purchase orders and there-obviously— there was obviously a mass increase-stock- there was obviously a mass increase stock of housing increase in the stock of housing increase in the stock of housing in-oountry— increase in the stock of housing in-oountry .— increase in the stock of housing in-oountry . so— increase in the stock of housing in country . so we've in this country. so we've got we-we—toet- in this country. so we've got. we've—post scenario we've got was the post scenario in— we've got was the post scenario was in response direct correlation— was in response direct correlation correlation to the tact— correlation correlation to the taet tnat— correlation correlation to the taet tnat a— correlation correlation to the fact that a lot— correlation correlation to the fact that a lot of— correlation correlation to the fact that a lot of homes had teen— fact that a lot of homes had been bombed.— fact that a lot of homes had been bombed. _ fact that a lot of homes had been bombed. �*ft�*ri utiii; fact that a lot of homes had been bombed. �*ft�*ri i“ fact that a lot of homes had been bombed. �*ft�*ri utiiri “ i“ been bombed. we were in an emergency situation that wasn't like ba.2 business as usual dynamic course. but i dynamic now, of course. but i think the point— dynamic now, of course. but i think the point here- dynamic now, of course. but i think the point here is- think the point here is that were— think the point here is that tee in— think the point here is that tee is a— think the point here is that there is a proposal being made wnion—totni there is a proposal being made. wnien—totn in which has some analogue both in the which has some analogue both in rte-in— which has some analogue both in tne-in tne— which has some analogue both in the-in the present,- which has some analogue both in the in the present, but the past and in the present, but eieewtere— the past and in the present, but elsewhere. and— the past and in the present, but elsewhere. and it's— the past and in the present, but elsewhere. and it's very easy. we— elsewhere. and it's very easy.

we att— elsewhere. and it's very easy. we tit-it.— elsewhere. and it's very easy. we all-it. but— elsewhere. and it's very easy. we all-it. but i- elsewhere. and it's very easy. we all it. but i think, look, we all do it. but i think, look, tote— we all do it. but i think, look, ion ot— we all do it. but i think, look, lots of lobbyists— we all do it. but i think, look, lots of lobbyists and ngos do it note-anytoty— lots of lobbyists and ngos do it more anybody else. more than anybody else. it's very— more than anybody else. it's very-too— more than anybody else. it's very-too too- more than anybody else. it's very poo poo proposal, very easy to poo poo proposal, trotoeai— very easy to poo poo proposal, trotoeai ant— very easy to poo poo proposal, proposal and .that- very easy to poo poo proposal, proposal and that won't proposal and say that won't wort. — proposal and say that won't wort. inn— proposal and say that won't work. this-work.- proposal and say that won't work. this work. well work. this won't work. well rete— work. this won't work. well iet-e try— work. this won't work. well let's try something. you know, it's let's try something. you know, its—a- let's try something. you know,j it-e—a trotien it's like if you have a problem in-tenonai— it's like if you have a problem in-personal life,- it's like if you have a problem in personal life, you try in your personal life, you try tting— in your personal life, you try tning. it— in your personal life, you try one thing. if doesn't work, one thing. if it doesn't work, you— one thing. if it doesn't work, you try— one thing. if it doesn't work, you try anottet— one thing. if it doesn't work, you try another, you try anotner. — you try another, you try another, .try- you try another, you try another, try another. and another, you try another. and yet-nave— another, you try another. and yet-nave witn- another, you try another. and yet have with regards to yet what we have with regards to the yet what we have with regards to tne touting— yet what we have with regards to the housing-don't- yet what we have with regards to the housing don't try the housing crisis is don't try anytting— the housing crisis is don't try anything.ithink_ the housing crisis is don't try anything. think let's it. anything. i think let's try it. iet-e— anything. i think let's try it. tern-a— anything. i think let's try it. let's-a labour- anything. i think let's try it. let's a labour government let's have a labour government atter—wortl after 2024. if it doesn't work, tnen— after 2024. if it doesn't work, tnen wett— after 2024. if it doesn't work, tnen we-ii try— after 2024. if it doesn't work, then we'll try something else. tut— then we'll try something else. tut-tne— then we'll try something else. but-the problem- then we'll try something else. but the problem a but clearly the problem is a nuge— but clearly the problem is a nuge-neete- but clearly the problem is a huge-needs to- but clearly the problem is a huge needs to be huge one. it needs to be addressed. _ huge one. it needs to be addressed. : huge one. it needs to be addressed. iwould happy addressed. would you be happy then if earn some land for then if you earn some land for whatever reason, for the government of the day to randomly say, randomly come along and say, right, going buy right, you, we're going to buy your pnce right, you, we're going to buy your price that it your land as the price that it is today, we're going to completely disregard the fact that actually you could potentially develop on this and quadruple your quadruple and then some your value. be cool with value. would you be cool with that if it was your land? i think in certain instances, the tutiie— think in certain instances, the public interest— think in certain instances, the public interest transcends tenonai— public interest transcends personal and personal interests for sure. and i personal interests for sure. and i-wouit— personal interests for sure. and i-wouit-wae- personal interests for sure. and i-would-was to. i think i would say if i was to put— i think i would say if i was to out nyeeit— i think i would say if i was to out nyeeit in— i think i would say if i was to put myself in that person's eoeen— put myself in that person's eoeen i— put myself in that person's shoes, i would— put myself in that person's shoes, i would want an appropriate— shoes, i would want an appropriate and a fair price. ant— appropriate and a fair price. ant-course.— appropriate and a fair price. and-course, that- appropriate and a fair price. and course, that may not be and of course, that may not be tne—

and of course, that may not be rte-trite.— and of course, that may not be tne-trioe. ant— and of course, that may not be the-price. and i— and of course, that may not be the price. and i suppose the the top price. and i suppose the tntanoe— the top price. and i suppose the distance -what's- distance between what's considered _ distance between what's considered fair considered appropriate and fair and considered appropriate and fair ant—can- considered appropriate and fairi antan— otten and the top price that can often be and the top price that can often te-tnere. — and the top price that can often be -there. well,- and the top price that can often be -there. well, i- be a lot there. well, i definitely want the top price for my life, quite frankly. i'm not going to lie about that. you, habib, you are you, ben habib, you are a property titan. this is your forte. you make to this? forte. what do you make to this? well, i think this is as if this is well, i think this is as if this it a— well, i think this is as if this it a genuine— well, i think this is as if this is a genuine from the is a genuine policy from the iatour— is a genuine policy from the iatour-it— is a genuine policy from the labour-it is- is a genuine policy from the labour it is them labour party. it is them reweaiing— labour party. it is them. revealing—not labour party. it is them- revealing_not just to revealing themselves not just to be revealing themselves not just to te eoeiaiiet— revealing themselves not just to be socialist, but— revealing themselves not just to be socialist, but communist. ite— be socialist, but communist. it-e-tatteet— be socialist, but communist. it's daftest policy i've it's the daftest policy i've neat— it's the daftest policy i've heard come— it's the daftest policy i've heard come out- it's the daftest policy i've heard come out of the labour party— heard come out of the labour rany ant— heard come out of the labour rany ant iii— heard come out of the labour party and i'll tell— heard come out of the labour party and i'll tell you why. underpinning— party and i'll tell you why. underpinning the integrity of investment— underpinning the integrity of investment in— underpinning the integrity of investment in the united tington— investment in the united kingdom, the— investment in the united kingdom, the reason the uk has teen— kingdom, the reason the uk has teen tor— kingdom, the reason the uk has teen tor yean— kingdom, the reason the uk has been for years such an attractive _ been for years such an attractive investment proposition- attractive investment proposition in for the world is teaue— proposition in for the world is because you've— proposition in for the world is because you've got secure property— because you've got secure property rights— because you've got secure property rights in the uk when you tuy— property rights in the uk when you buy something in the uk, you it.— you buy something in the uk, you it. ine— you buy something in the uk, you own it. the government doesn't turn— own it. the government doesn't turn ut— own it. the government doesn't turn up tite— own it. the government doesn't turn up iite a— own it. the government doesn't turn up like a banana republic, tite— turn up like a banana republic, iite tone— turn up like a banana republic, like some kind— turn up like a banana republic, like some kind of— turn up like a banana republic, like some kind of upstart state it ant— like some kind of upstart state it ant tate— like some kind of upstart state it ant take it— like some kind of upstart state it and take it off.— like some kind of upstart state it and take it off. you just teaue— it and take it off. you just because they— it and take it off. you just because they have another initiative— because they have another initiative for— because they have another initiative for it.— because they have another initiative for it. the notion tnat— initiative for it. the notion tnat tne— initiative for it. the notion that the government should have

the that the government should have tne rignt— that the government should have the right across— that the government should have the right across the board to oontnoate— the right across the board to confiscate land _ the right across the board to confiscate land for whatever motive— confiscate land for whatever motive in— confiscate land for whatever motive in one— confiscate land for whatever motive is one that has to be nigniy— motive is one that has to be highly resisted. _ motive is one that has to be highly resisted. there are some eontunory— highly resisted. there are some compulsory purchase orders aireaty— compulsory purchase orders already allowed for like hs2 and etutt. — already allowed for like hs2 and etutt. wean.— already allowed for like hs2 and stuff. yeah, for— already allowed for like hs2 and stuff. yeah, for hs2 , for stuff. yeah, for hs2, for nationai— stuff. yeah, for hs2, for national projects, for strips of tant— national projects, for strips of iant town — national projects, for strips of land down the— national projects, for strips of land down the side of a road and wat— land down the side of a road and tar tint— land down the side of a road and tar tint ot— land down the side of a road and that kind of thing.— land down the side of a road and that kind of thing. but you have to pay— that kind of thing. but you have to pay tuit— that kind of thing. but you have to pay full market— that kind of thing. but you have to pay full market price. you otten— to pay full market price. you otten ton-t— to pay full market price. you often don't-it.- to pay full market price. you often don't it. you have to often don't get it. you have to pay— often don't get it. you have to pay tuit— often don't get it. you have to pay full market— often don't get it. you have to pay full market price. there's no—tnat— pay full market price. there's no—tnat you- pay full market price. there's. no _that you wouldn't pay full market price. there's no the that you wouldn't pay full market price. there's no the value that you wouldn't pay full market price. there's no the value of at you wouldn't pay full market price. there's no the value of the ou wouldn't pay full market price. there's no the value of the land)uldn't get the value of the land eutieet— get the value of the land eutieot to — get the value of the land subject to planning and this wouit— subject to planning and this would drive— subject to planning and this would drive a— subject to planning and this would drive a coach and horses tnrougn— would drive a coach and horses tnrougn tne— would drive a coach and horses through the belief— would drive a coach and horses through the belief that if you buy— through the belief that if you tuy tninge— through the belief that if you tuy tninge in— through the belief that if you buy things in england, in the wnitet— buy things in england, in the united kingdom _ buy things in england, in the united kingdom , you are secure. united kingdom, you are secure. ant— united kingdom, you are secure. ant it— united kingdom, you are secure. ant it you— united kingdom, you are secure. and if you drive— united kingdom, you are secure. and if you drive a— united kingdom, you are secure. and if you drive a coach and tones— and if you drive a coach and horses through— and if you drive a coach and horses through that , you've horses through that, you've undermined— horses through that, you've undermined entire capitalist undermined the entire capitalist notei— undermined the entire capitalist notei tor— undermined the entire capitalist notei tor tne— undermined the entire capitalist model for the uk— undermined the entire capitalist model for the uk .— undermined the entire capitalist model for the uk . and actually model for the uk. and actually it's model for the uk. and actually in very— model for the uk. and actually it's very similar— model for the uk. and actually it's very similar ,_ model for the uk. and actually it's very similar , michel, to it's very similar, michel, to tne— it's very similar, michel, to tne eutieet. — it's very similar, michel, to the subject. we— it's very similar, michel, to the subject. we were just tneueeing— the subject. we were just discussing north sea oil, for exantie— discussing north sea oil, for exantie .— discussing north sea oil, for example , where— discussing north sea oil, for example , where keir starmer example, where keir starmer wann— example, where keir starmer wants to— example, where keir starmer wants to tan— example, where keir starmer wants to ban oil— example, where keir starmer wants to ban oil licences, the wiring— wants to ban oil licences, the triiiing ot— wants to ban oil licences, the drilling of new— wants to ban oil licences, the drilling of new wells and new gas— drilling of new wells and new gas gat— drilling of new wells and new gas gas reserves— drilling of new wells and new gas gas reserves and, you know, tney-we— gas gas reserves and, you know, tney-we tney-we— gas gas reserves and, you know, they've they've been vitriolic , they've they've been vitriolic, ha, — they've they've been vitriolic, wiot. against— they've they've been vitriolic, nick, against the— they've they've been vitriolic, nick, against the oil and gas intuetry— nick, against the oil and gas intuetry .— nick, against the oil and gas intuetry . tne— nick, against the oil and gas industry , the labour party. industry, the labour party. iney-we— industry, the labour party.

they've been— industry, the labour party. they've been up in arms in the common— they've been up in arms in the commons wanting— they've been up in arms in the commons wanting even more. it's the commons wanting even more. it's tne nost— commons wanting even more. it's tne noet nigniy— commons wanting even more. it's the most highly taxed industry were— the most highly taxed industry tnerelieotie— the most highly taxed industry there-people are- the most highly taxed industry there people are just going there is. people are just going to stop— there is. people are just going to etot toing— there is. people are just going to stop doing business in the uk if to stop doing business in the uk it tney-re— to stop doing business in the uk if they're continually attacked ant— if they're continually attacked ant tnn— if they're continually attacked ant tie it— if they're continually attacked and this is socialism gone mad. wett— and this is socialism gone mad. weii. you— and this is socialism gone mad. weir. you say— and this is socialism gone mad. wow. you say its— and this is socialism gone mad. well, you say it's might- and this is socialism gone mad. well, you say it's might even sniff of communism and in the mao's era they had this thing the land reform movement, i think it was called, where basically they did take this land off the landlords. i mean they got a bit carried away and they got a bit carried away and they did actually go on to kill they did actually go on to kill the landlords. so perhaps i'm not likening it too much to that, then won't do that that, but then i won't do that i think. no. well not yet. not yet. there is a slippery. so don't you worry that this is just whole notion of it's just this whole notion of it's almost like pitting people against aspiration . and that's almost like pitting people agai i;t aspiration . and that's almost like pitting people agai i feel3iration . and that's almost like pitting people agai i feel abouti . and that's almost like pitting people agai i feel about the ind that's almost like pitting people agai i feel about the labour 's how i feel about the labour party. that's one of my challenges with them. often i agree with you about- i; often i agree with you about the aspiration— agree with you about the aspiration thing, but i actually tnint— aspiration thing, but i actually think—complete- think this is the complete ottoeite— think this is the complete opposite -what. think this is the complete opposite what we're opposite because what we're seeing— opposite because what we're seeing witn— opposite because what we're seeing with regards to housing opposite because what we're sethe| with regards to housing opposite because what we're sethe deathregards to housing opposite because what we're sethe death of ards to housing opposite because what we're sethe death of aspiration using opposite because what we're sethe death of aspiration and] is the death of aspiration and the is the death of aspiration and to taiiure— is the death of aspiration and the failure reproduce the failure to reproduce the nittie— the failure to reproduce thei middle _country. middle class in this country. tee— middle class in this country. tee-at— middle class in this country. see -45 seconds- see under 45 seconds are

generaiiy— see under 45 seconds are. generaiiy—own generally less likely to own tneir— generally less likely to own tneir on— generally less likely to own their own home. _ generally less likely to own their own home. i think their own home. and i think oweraii— their own home. and i think overall home— their own home. and i think overall home ownership in this country— overall home ownership in this country-arount- overall home ownership in this country around the early country peaked around the early 2000.— country peaked around the early 2000. ite— country peaked around the early 2000. it's around— country peaked around the early 2000. it's around 9% lower today .—tneir- . and i think people in their tate— . and i think people in their iate—tnree- . and i think people in theiri late _three times late 30s now are three times note-to— late 30s now are three times note-to rent- late 30s now are three times more -to rent than - late 30s now are three times more to rent than they more likely to rent than they e-eago so- more likely to rent than they were-ago. so and. more likely to rent than they were ago. so and we were 20 years ago. so and we trotatiy— were 20 years ago. so and we trotatiy-agree— were 20 years ago. so and we probably agree this. probably all agree on this. inere-e— probably all agree on this. inere-e a— probably all agree on this. there's a challenge there. so now— there's a challenge there. so now to— there's a challenge there. so how do-address- there's a challenge there. so how do address it? e trig how do you address it? it's very oatiiy— how do you address it? it's very easily addressed. but- how do you address it? it's very easily addressed. but i- how do you address it? e iii: can tittir: : but i would easily addressed. but i would tutt— easily addressed. but i would iuet nay— easily addressed. but i would iuet eay i—i— easily addressed. but i would just say 1—1 final— can tittir: : but i would just say 1—1 final point. sorry. ite— just say 1—1 final point. sorry. we going— just say 1—1 final point. sorry. we going to— just say 1—1 final point. sorry. it's going to fix— just say 1—1 final point. sorry. it's going to fix it.— just say 1—1 final point. sorry. it's going to fix it. i'm sure he it's going to fix it. i'm sure ne—nel it's going to fix it. i'm sure| ne—ne. tut it's going to fix it. i'm sure. ne—ne. tut i it's going to fix it. i'm sure- he_me. but i will he might persuade me. but i will say he might persuade me. but i will nay-note— he might persuade me. but i will nay-note tning— he might persuade me. but i will say-more thing as— he might persuade me. but i will say more thing as well. ben say one more thing as well. ben ant— say one more thing as well. ben ant youe— say one more thing as well. ben ant youre saying— say one more thing as well. ben and you're saying about a onaiienge— and you're saying about a. challenge—rights. and you're saying about a. chalbiggest-rights. and you're saying about a chalbiggest challengerights. and you're saying about a chalbiggest challenge we ts. and you're saying about a chalbiggest challenge we have to the biggest challenge we have to property— the biggest challenge we have to troteny rignn— the biggest challenge we have to property rights in_ the biggest challenge we have to property rights in this country totay— today is inflation. because if you— today is inflation. because if you-an— today is inflation. because if you-an aeeet- today is inflation. because if you an asset here worth x, you have an asset here worth x, it's you have an asset here worth x, in toting— you have an asset here worth x, in ioeing toro— you have an asset here worth x, it's losing 10%-set- it's losing 10% over a set point— it's losing 10% over a set teriot ot— it's losing 10% over a set period of time- it's losing 10% over a set period of time .- it's losing 10% over a set period of time . right now, with period of time. right now, with regarte— period of time. right now, with regards-inflation,— period of time. right now, with regards inflation, we have regards to inflation, we have interest— regards to inflation, we have interest rates— regards to inflation, we have interest rates are— regards to inflation, we have interest rates are going up. so if interest rates are going up. so it you— interest rates are going up. so it you are— interest rates are going up. so it you you— interest rates are going up. so if you are you know, if you are tote— if you are you know, if you are ion ot— if you are you know, if you are lots of creditors— if you are you know, if you are lots of creditors and you're nigniy— lots of creditors and you're highly leveraged, that's also a reai— highly leveraged, that's also a eaoni-— highly leveraged, that's also a real-on on your- highly leveraged, that's also a real on on your on your real attack on on your on your weaitt— real attack on on your on your weaitn. so— real attack on on your on your weaitn. so i— real attack on on your on your wealth. so i think— real attack on on your on your wealth. so i think to say given interest— wealth. so i think to say given interest rates— wealth. so i think to say given interest rates where they may go interest rates where they may go in-eio— interest rates where they may go in-eio nontts- interest rates where they may go in six months, given in the next six months, given intiation— in the next six months, given inflation,-that- in the next six months, given inflation, that the inflation, to say that the tiggeet— inflation, to say that the tiggeet-to i inflation, to say that the- biggest-to somebody biggest challenge to somebody witn— biggest challenge to somebody with-portfolio- biggest challenge to somebody with-portfolio of- with a large portfolio of atten— with a large portfolio of assets, the _ with a large portfolio of assets, the biggest challenge is nayte— assets, the biggest challenge is maybe-starmer— assets, the biggest challenge is maybe starmer and cpos.

maybe keir starmer and cpos. i tnint— maybe keir starmer and cpos. i tninttnat-e. — maybe keir starmer and cpos. i think that's. no,— maybe keir starmer and cpos. i think that's. no, i— maybe keir starmer and cpos. i think that's. \ti think that's. no, i think no, no, no, no, it's not. it's not. in — no, no, no, it's not. it's not. i'm not i'm not identify it as a specific economic challenge to that. it will pull the rug out from confidence in the united kingdom. it will destroy confidence in the united kingdom . if you think and by the way, if they start buying land off you at below market price before you at below market price before you it, they're going to you know it, they're going to be buying blocks blocks buying derelict blocks of blocks of refurbishment and of flat for refurbishment and redevelopment they'll redevelopment and then they'll move on to houses, which redevelopment and then they'll movethink) houses, which redevelopment and then they'll movethink shouldfuses, which redevelopment and then they'll movethink shouldfusfblockszh redevelopment and then they'll movethink shouldfusfblocks of they think should be blocks of flats. driven a wedge flats. and you've driven a wedge through confidence the uk . it through confidence in the uk. it is and this i just want is madness. and this i just want to finish. we have had 25 years of under unbridled attack on anglo—saxon capitalist system . anglo—saxon capitalist system. we are progressively becoming more and more socialist and the evidence base is clear. we see it national debt at a historic high, taxes at a historic high, inflation out of control, public sector, broken unemployment rising, an inability to match jobs that are vacant with people

who are not in jobs. the whole system is breaking and it is breaking under the weight of socialism. and this would be the almost the final straw, if you like. and it wouldn't result in new houses being built . it new houses being built. it wouldn't work because the government is useless at doing anything. what they have to do, hang on what they have to do. i'm going to pause on that cliff etge. — i'm going to pause on that cliff etge. itigtt— i'm going to pause on that cliff edge. right. because ben habib, nee— edge. right. because ben habib, not got— edge. right. because ben habib, not got tne— edge. right. because ben habib, he's got the answer. he's just tott— he's got the answer. he's just toit ue— he's got the answer. he's just toit ue nee— he's got the answer. he's just told us he's got— he's got the answer. he's just told us he's got the answer. do not— told us he's got the answer. do not go— told us he's got the answer. do not go anywhere,— told us he's got the answer. do not go anywhere, because i want to near— not go anywhere, because i want to near tnat— not go anywhere, because i want to hear that answer. i will see you— to hear that answer. i will see you in— to hear that answer. i will see you in two. — to hear that answer. i will see you in two. he's— to hear that answer. i will see you in two. he's going to fix it for you in two. he's going to fix it tor — you in two. he's going to fix it tor ton-t— you in two. he's going to fix it tor ton-t go— you in two. he's going to fix it for us. don't go anywhere .

welcome back, everyone. i'm iiioneiie— welcome back, everyone. i'm michelle dewberry with you till itoo. — michelle dewberry with you till itoo. aaron— michelle dewberry with you till 7:00. aaron bastani is the tounter— 7:00. aaron bastani is the tounter ot— 7:00. aaron bastani is the founder of novara media and ben natit— founder of novara media and ben natit n— founder of novara media and ben natit n a— founder of novara media and ben habib is a former— founder of novara media and ben habib is a former brexit party titr— habib is a former brexit party wit-tne— habib is a former brexit party wit-rte cit— habib is a former brexit party mep-the ceo of- habib is a former brexit party mep the ceo of first mep and the ceo of first troteny— mep and the ceo of first property group. we have just teen— property group. we have just been—labour's. property group. we have just. been—labour's plans

been getting into labour's plans taeioaiiy— been getting into labour's plans taeioaiiy to— been getting into labour's plans basically to take— been getting into labour's plans basically to take land from the teotie— basically to take land from the teotie tnat— basically to take land from the people that earn— basically to take land from the people that earn it and not pay tneir— people that earn it and not pay tneir proper— people that earn it and not pay their proper potential price for war— their proper potential price for ma iant. — their proper potential price for that land. whether or not it's a goot— that land. whether or not it's a goot itea— that land. whether or not it's a goot itea. so— that land. whether or not it's a good idea. so much feedback on two.— good idea. so much feedback on tnn. tonn— good idea. so much feedback on tnn. on says.— good idea. so much feedback on this, john says. i— good idea. so much feedback on this, john says. i am a farmer witn— this, john says. i am a farmer witn tant— this, john says. i am a farmer with land with— this, john says. i am a farmer with land with hope value around awiiiage— with land with hope value around a wiiiage .— with land with hope value around awiiiage . i— with land with hope value around a village . i would— with land with hope value around a village . i would gladly sell a village. i would gladly sell my tant— a village. i would gladly sell my iant tor— a village. i would gladly sell my land for development if i oouit— my land for development if i oouit get— my land for development if i could get planning . however, could get planning. however, i wouit— could get planning. however, i wouit teet— could get planning. however, i would keep farming on it toreer it— would keep farming on it forever. if labour took away the incentive— forever. if labour took away the incentive to — forever. if labour took away the incentive to sell— forever. if labour took away the incentive to sell .— forever. if labour took away the incentive to sell . i— forever. if labour took away the incentive to sell . i hear what incentive to sell. i hear what youe— incentive to sell. i hear what youre saying.— incentive to sell. i hear what you're saying, but you're missing— you're saying, but you're missing the— you're saying, but you're missing the point because you wouitn-t— missing the point because you wouldn't have— missing the point because you wouldn't have a— missing the point because you wouldn't have a choice. you wouitn-t— wouldn't have a choice. you wouitn-t te— wouldn't have a choice. you wouldn't be able- wouldn't have a choice. you wouldn't be able to sit here and say,— wouldn't be able to sit here and say. wo— wouldn't be able to sit here and say. to. want— wouldn't be able to sit here and say, no, thank you,— wouldn't be able to sit here and say, no, thank you, labour rany. — say, no, thank you, labour rany. tn— say, no, thank you, labour nany. in not— say, no, thank you, labour party. i'm not going to sell it to you.— party. i'm not going to sell it to you. it— party. i'm not going to sell it to you. it would— party. i'm not going to sell it to you. it would be a compulsory tuntaee—ny- purchase. yes. so yes, my tent.— purchase. yes. so yes, my trient. you— purchase. yes. so yes, my friend, you would be it. friend, you would be selling it. inat— friend, you would be selling it. inatltne— friend, you would be selling it. that-the point.— friend, you would be selling it. that the point. and that is that is the point. and that is tne— that is the point. and that is rte-tnat— that is the point. and that isi the -that-people the concern that many people nave— the concern that many people nave witn— the concern that many people have with this. _ the concern that many people have with this. steve says what? touting— have with this. steve says what? touting-on.— have with this. steve says what? housing-oh,-kids- housing crisis? oh, my kids tottiet— bottled houses with no issues wnateoewer— bottled houses with no issues whatsoeveriand _ bottled houses with no issues whatsoever and says whatsoever. and hillary says eontneating— whatsoever. and hillary says confiscating land for below market— confiscating land for below market value _ confiscating land for below market value seems like communism. so they will pay market—tney- communism. so they will pay market they won't communism. so they will pay. market-they won't pay market value, but they won't pay wnat— market value, but they won't pay wnat tney— market value, but they won't pay wnat tney eati— market value, but they won't pay what they call hope value. inatt— what they call hope value. inat-e tne — what they call hope value. that's the kind _ what they call hope value. that's the kind of what they ty— that's the kind of what they ty note. — that's the kind of what they mean by hope. value is the value

of the land subject to planning. so stripping could so they are stripping real could be 300 times the agricultural value. it's a massive amount they'll be stripping away from people. kathleen says the government should confiscate land owned by the wealthiest . land owned by the wealthiest. only richard said this is anotner— only richard said this is another attack on hard working, eueoeeetui— another attack on hard working, successful people _ another attack on hard working, successful people and their attent— successful people and their assets. charles— successful people and their assets. charles finally says, i agree— assets. charles finally says, i agree witn— assets. charles finally says, i agree with ben. _ assets. charles finally says, i agree with ben. this is communism - agree with ben. this is communism through the back door anyway. — communism through the back door anyway. ten— communism through the back door anyway. ben habib,— communism through the back door anyway. ben habib, ladies and genre.— anyway. ben habib, ladies and genre. toit— anyway. ben habib, ladies and genre. toit ue— anyway. ben habib, ladies and gents, told us before the break tnat— gents, told us before the break tnat ne— gents, told us before the break tnat ne nae— gents, told us before the break that he has got— gents, told us before the break that he has got the answer to two— that he has got the answer to tie — that he has got the answer to this issue. i've— that he has got the answer to this issue. i've built it up now massive drum _ this issue. i've built it up now massive drum roll. go. so the reason we've got— massive drum roll. go. so the reason we've got it wrong is wat— reason we've got it wrong is tnat every— reason we've got it wrong is that every time— reason we've got it wrong is that every time we've tried to attest— that every time we've tried to attest tne— that every time we've tried to address the housing problem, wnat— address the housing problem, wnat w-wee— address the housing problem, what we've done— address the housing problem, what we've done is make it oneater— what we've done is make it oneater ant— what we've done is make it cheaper and easier to borrow money— cheaper and easier to borrow money to— cheaper and easier to borrow money to tuy— cheaper and easier to borrow money to buy property . money to buy property. all that-t— money to buy property. all ttatt tone— money to buy property. all that's done is— money to buy property. all that's done is fuelled demand for course, we've for property. of course, we've also lots of immigrants also got lots of immigrants coming in which further adds to the for property. when the demand for property. when you want to make an asset cheaper more plentiful, what you want to make an asset cherhave more plentiful, what you want to make an asset cherhave to more plentiful, what you want to make an asset cherhave to do are plentiful, what you want to make an asset cherhave to do is plentiful, what you want to make an asset cherhave to do is produceil, what you want to make an asset cherhave to do is produce moreat you have to do is produce more of it faster. and what they of it faster. and so what they what the government has to do is streamline the planning process

, which is, again, with all this socialism, that's been taking place over the last 25 years, has become progressed massively more protracted more expensive, more protracted and more difficult. it used to cost when i started out in property a couple of thousand quid to get planning permission to can to build a house. it can now cost 20 £25,000. the same cost 20 to £25,000. the same planning permission. massive inflation in costs, massive increase in times. so cut back on planning regulations. absolute top priority and then produce funding and incentives for developers to produce the housing, not for the buyers but for the produce king of housing so that there's plentiful supply. if you get the supply right , supply. if you get the supply right, you'll balance supply. if you get the supply right , you'll balance the right, you'll balance the equation. they go convinced, aaron, when ? so when did you aaron, when? so when did you stan— aaron, when? so when did you tan in— aaron, when? so when did you tan in war— aaron, when? so when did you start in that game?— aaron, when? so when did you start in that game? in- 'ittit“ 7 so when did you start in that game? in the �*z�*ti�*t�* 7 so when did you start in that game? in the 1994. w 7 so when did you start in that game? in the 1994. so start in that game? in the 1994. so i— start in that game? in the 1994. so i oa— start in that game? in the 1994. so i .— start in that game? in the 1994. so i mean , britain— start in that game? in the 1994. so i mean , britain built- so i mean, britain built a shedload of housing in this country really over the 50s and 60s. important to say, both gos. important to say, both unten— troifr important to say, both under conservative and labour gowernrnenn— under conservative and labour governments and— under conservative and labour governments and that was because more— governments and that was because tnere wa— governments and that was because tnere a— governments and that was because there was a really— governments and that was because there was a really central role for there was a really central role tor tne— there was a really central role for the state.— there was a really central role for the state. now— there was a really central role for the state. now i'm not saying— for the state. now i'm not saying tne— for the state. now i'm not saying the state is the panacea. it saying the state is the panacea. it eoweei—

saying the state is the panacea. it solves everything , but i just it solves everything, but i just tint— it solves everything, but i just tint it— it solves everything, but i just tint it reaiiy— it solves everything, but i just find it really odd— it solves everything, but i just find it really odd that we have witnin— find it really odd that we have witnin twing— find it really odd that we have within living memory situation within living memory a situation wnere— within living memory a situation wnere we— within living memory a situation wnere we-iuet— within living memory a situation where we just creating more where we were just creating more nonet— where we were just creating more nonee tnan— where we were just creating more nonee tnan ever— where we were just creating more homes than ever before and yet we tint— homes than ever before and yet we tint it— homes than ever before and yet we tint it eo— homes than ever before and yet we find it so impossible to go tact.— we find it so impossible to go tact. tut— we find it so impossible to go tact. tut a— we find it so impossible to go back. but a lot— we find it so impossible to go back. but a lot of— we find it so impossible to go back. but a lot of those homes are uninhabitable. are now uninhabitable. a lot of those— are now uninhabitable. a lot of tone nonet— are now uninhabitable. a lot of those homes are— are now uninhabitable. a lot of those homes are in what were new towns that they created after after the wall and a lot of it was really bad building. i mean, i'm not averse to going out and creating a new plan, a new town . i'll do it. but don't do it by confiscating people's land. well, i think this is also a separate— well, i think this is also a separate issue.— well, i think this is also a separate issue. so we agree on tne— separate issue. so we agree on to outtiy— separate issue. so we agree on to outtiy. we— separate issue. so we agree on the supply. we agree on the supply-— the supply. we agree on the outtiy. vou— the supply. we agree on the supply. you absolutely need more supply-— supply. you absolutely need more outtiy. ot— supply. you absolutely need more outtiy. ot eoune— supply. you absolutely need more supply. of course, you do. and now— supply. of course, you do. and now to— supply. of course, you do. and now to you— supply. of course, you do. and how do you make— supply. of course, you do. and how do you make that as easy as toeeitiet— how do you make that as easy as possible?isuppose_ how do you make that as easy as possible?isuppose i— how do you make that as easy as possible? suppose i one possible? i suppose i have one question.— possible? i suppose i have one question. it— possible? i suppose i have one question it i— possible? i suppose i have one question. if i may,— possible? i suppose i have one question. if i may, michel, very trietiy—tnnl briefly. which is there is this reai— briefly. which is there is this real obsession— briefly. which is there is this real obsession with the green bat,— real obsession with the green teit. tut— real obsession with the green belt, but you're _ real obsession with the green belt, but you're somebody, again— belt, but you're somebody, again in— belt, but you're somebody, again, in this— belt, but you're somebody, again, in this industry, if you wait—tite- walk around a city like portsmouth,- walk around a city like portsmouth, southampton, london, you tint— portsmouth, southampton, london, you tint eo— portsmouth, southampton, london, even, you find so many brownfield— even, you find so many brownfield sites, you think, why is brownfield sites, you think, why in tone — brownfield sites, you think, why is there something there? why are is there something there? why tney— is there something there? why tney not— is there something there? why are they not agree with you -agrool are they not agree with you. more? -agree with are they not agree with you- more? -agree with you more? i couldn't agree with you more. it's an absolute collapse

in imagination that more brownfield aren't brownfield sites aren't redeveloped into proper housing. there's much availability and there's so much availability and people want to go to the people just want to go to the green belt. i'll tell you why they do it. and this is where they do it. and this is where the conservative party has a conflict interest. it's conflict of interest. it's because because because land, because house builders donors builders are tory donors and it's much easier to build on the green than it is to go to green belt than it is to go to all the trouble of converting a brownfield lot of you brownfield site. a lot of you are at brownfield site. a lot of you at none. — brownfield site. a lot of you are at home. that's- brownfield site. a lot of you are at home. that's a- tit: a lot of you are at home. that's a nice note of are at home. that's a nice note ot agreement— are at home. that's a nice note ot agreenent ty— are at home. that's a nice note of agreement by the way, to end on a iot— of agreement by the way, to end on a tot ot— of agreement by the way, to end on a tot ot you— of agreement by the way, to end on a lot of you home saying on a lot of you at home saying tiieteiie— on a lot of you at home saying michelle, it's— on a lot of you at home saying michelle, it's not— on a lot of you at home saying michelle, it's not a— on a lot of you at home saying michelle, it's not a housing gotten.— michelle, it's not a housing trotien. ite— michelle, it's not a housing problem. it's a— michelle, it's not a housing problem. it's a population increase. why aren't you mentioning— increase. why aren't you mentioning elephant in the mentioning that elephant in the noon— mentioning that elephant in the roont—antl room? they're asking me. and by the room? they're asking me. and by tne-wnoie— room? they're asking me. and by the-whole kind- the way, this whole kind of requisition— the way, this whole kind of requisition of— the way, this whole kind of requisition of property, land ant— requisition of property, land ant att— requisition of property, land ant aii tne— requisition of property, land and all the-of- requisition of property, land and all the of it, i recall and all the rest of it, i recall at_grenfell,- and all the rest of it, i recall at_grenfell, and. and all the rest of it, i recall. at_grenfell, and i'm at the end of grenfell, and i'm corbyn— at the end of grenfell, and i'm sure corbyn was— at the end of grenfell, and i'm sure corbyn was saying there was all sure corbyn was saying there was an of— sure corbyn was saying there was an of these — sure corbyn was saying there was all of these kind— sure corbyn was saying there was all of these kind of— sure corbyn was saying there was all of these kind of nearby sure corbyn was saying there was all of properties! of nearby sure corbyn was saying there was all of properties and nearby sure corbyn was saying there was all of properties and allrby sure corbyn was saying there was all of properties and all the large properties and all the rest— large properties and all the rest!“— large properties and all the rest-n and— large properties and all the rest it and exploring then rest of it and exploring then whether— rest of it and exploring then whether-you- rest of it and exploring then whether you should seize whether or not you should seize those— whether or not you should seize those properties.— whether or not you should seize those properties. it's a very slippery— those properties. it's a very slippery-isn't- those properties. it's a very slippery-isn't it,- slippery slope, isn't it, because— slippery slope, isn't it,- because _that because often people that support— because often people that support-notionl because often people that. support-notion of support the whole notion of seizing— support the whole notion of seizing-those- support the whole notion of seizing those people seizing stuff are those people thee—stuff- seizing stuff are those people that_ stuff to l seizing stuff are those peoplei that—stuff to be that don't have the stuff to be seized. — that don't have the stuff to be seized. .eek— that don't have the stuff to be seized. ask yourself, seized. but ask yourself, whatever— seized. but ask yourself, whatever- got. . seized. but ask yourself, whatever got. i don't seized. but ask yourself, whate'you got. i don't seized. but ask yourself, whate'you mightgot. i don't seized. but ask yourself, whate'you might have don't seized. but ask yourself, whate'you might have aon't seized. but ask yourself, whate'you might have a small know. you might have a small flee,— know. you might have a small

flee-shed,— know. you might have a small flat, shed, whatever. flat, a small shed, whatever. hew— flat, a small shed, whatever. how would— flat, a small shed, whatever. how would you— flat, a small shed, whatever. how would you feel if circumstances changed and - eemeeneee—ee someone came along and said, right,— someone came along and said, right-taking- someone came along and said, regen-taking n- someone came along and said, right, taking it and right, you, i'm taking it and m — right, you, i'm taking it and m nee— right, you, i'm taking it and m not going— right, you, i'm taking it and i'm not going to— right, you, i'm taking it and i'm not going to you what i'm not going to pay you what it's i'm not going to pay you what we wm,— i'm not going to pay you what we we. i— i'm not going to pay you what it's worth, i certainly would nee— it's worth, i certainly would nee-happy.— it's worth, i certainly would not happy. would you.7 very not be happy. would you? very quickly,— not be happy. would you? very quicklye-goe- not be happy. would you? very quickly, go, airlines , quickly, before i go, airlines, do quickly, before i go, airlines, ee you— quickly, before i go, airlines, ee you think— quickly, before i go, airlines, do you think there should be in the business— do you think there should be in the business of— do you think there should be in the business of weighing their passengers— the business of weighing their passengers before they get on air new— passengers before they get on air new zealand— passengers before they get on air new zealand . i shouldn't air new zealand. i shouldn't laugh,— air new zealand. i shouldn't laugh, bee— air new zealand. i shouldn't laugh, but air— air new zealand. i shouldn't laugh, but air new zealand is new-ee— laugh, but air new zealand is new-to ee— laugh, but air new zealand is now-to do that.- laugh, but air new zealand is now to do that. they say now wanting to do that. they say it's now wanting to do that. they say we about— now wanting to do that. they say it's about fuel— now wanting to do that. they say it's about fuel consumption an end— it's about fuel consumption an end weighe— it's about fuel consumption an and weight distribution on planes.— and weight distribution on planes. ue— and weight distribution on planes. e n— and weight distribution on planes. is it common sense or is it ewew— planes. is it common sense or is it eruew n— planes. is it common sense or is it cruel? it seems— planes. is it common sense or is it cruel? it seems rather cruel. i think— it cruel? it seems rather cruel. . ththt ht— it cruel? it seems rather cruel. . ththt tt .— it cruel? it seems rather cruel. i think if i had— it cruel? it seems rather cruel. i think if i had to— it cruel? it seems rather cruel. i think if i had to fly— it cruel? it seems rather cruel. i think if i had to fly with- it cruel? it seems rather cruel. i think if i had to fly with air new zealand, i'd use wegovy for a month or two first. would you know a month or two first. would you knew whet— a month or two first. would you know what about— a month or two first. would you know what about you?- �*" would you know what about you? that's the weteht— know what about you? that's the weteht tees— know what about you? that's the weight loss thing,— know what about you? that's the weight loss thing, by the way. if weight loss thing, by the way. h you— weight loss thing, by the way. tt you ten-t— weight loss thing, by the way. if you don't know, i think it's tatt— if you don't know, i think it's tett ee— if you don't know, i think it's daft as brushes. _ if you don't know, i think it's daft as brushes. tat?" e if you don't know, i think it's daft as brushes. tit?" e “a; daft as brushes. i can't imagine why doing it. you can. why they're doing it. you can. you know what what weight you're carrying. you know, airlines have what, 50 have operated for, what, 50 years airlines years now? commercial airlines is my viewers are is no trouble. my viewers are a harsh bunch because when i weigh everyone, when i when i opened the program, people were writing in saying, well, in and saying, well, yes, michel, thought this for

michel, i've thought this for a long time. they're saying if the— long time. they're saying if the get— long time. they're saying if the get tees— gift"; e they're saying if i've got less baggage than someone else,— i've got less baggage than someone else, for example, you wette— someone else, for example, you weutt-te— someone else, for example, you weutt-te-yeu-t- someone else, for example, you would -to -you'd be i would have to pay or you'd be atte— would have to pay or you'd be ehte—se- would have to pay or you'd be ehte—se ht- would have to pay or you'd be able _so if you'rei able to pay less. so if you're earthe— able to pay less. so if you're eeththe tees— able to pay less. so if you're carrying less weight within yetteett— carrying less weight within yourself, should you get a theeeuht— yourself, should you get a tteeeuht e— yourself, should you get a discount ? i— yourself, should you get a discount? i wonder how long it wttt— discount? i wonder how long it wttt tate— discount? i wonder how long it will take ryanair_ discount? i wonder how long it will take ryanair to come up wtth— will take ryanair to come up wtth e— will take ryanair to come up wtth a petty.— will take ryanair to come up with a policy. i'm surprised, eutte— with a policy. i'm surprised, qutte tenth,— with a policy. i'm surprised, quite frankly, that they've not eheety— quite frankly, that they've not already charged— quite frankly, that they've not already charged by the pound of teeth— already charged by the pound of weteht thet— already charged by the pound of wetght that yet— already charged by the pound of weight that you carry them. i hope— weight that you carry them. i hope they-te— weight that you carry them. i hope they're not— weight that you carry them. i hope they're not watching heeeuee— hope they're not watching because that _ hope they're not watching because that might incentivise them — because that might incentivise them -thehhe- because that might incentivise them inspire them to them. it might inspire them to eemee- hettey- them. it might inspire them to come a policy like that. come up with a policy like that. anyway,— come up with a policy like that. anyway, there— come up with a policy like that. anyway, there yet— come up with a policy like that. anyway, there you go. we fixed it anyway, there you go. we fixed ttitehteht. — anyway, there you go. we fixed it tonight. ridiculous anyway, there you go. we fixed it tothelt. ridiculous anyway, there you go. we fixed it tothe housing|lous anyway, there you go. we fixed it tothe housing situation. brands, the housing situation. thet— brands, the housing situation. just-oil— brands, the housing situation. tuet-ott ht— brands, the housing situation. just-oil if you've- brands, the housing situation. just oil if you've missed just stop. oil if you've missed it. just stop. oil if you've missed t. h— just stop. oil if you've missed t. tt yet-te— just stop. oil if you've missed it. if you're tuning in, it. if you're just tuning in, you— it. if you're just tuning in, you eth— it. if you're just tuning in, you can watch— it. if you're just tuning in, you can watch us back on youtube or the— you can watch us back on youtube or the the— you can watch us back on youtube or the the app.— you can watch us back on youtube teeth the the. h— you can watch us back on youtube or via the app. if you're etttthe— or via the app. if you're sitting there— or via the app. if you're sitting there thinking to yourselves, _ sitting there thinking to yourselves, out, yourselves, i've got to go out, hut— yourselves, i've got to go out, hut-te— yourselves, i've got to go out, hut-to stet— yourselves, i've got to go out, but-to stick with- yourselves, i've got to go out, but to stick with these but i want to stick with these guys,— but i want to stick with these ewe-wtth— but i want to stick with these guvst-with you- but i want to stick with these guys, with you wherever guys, take us with you wherever yet-te— guys, take us with you wherever yet-teeh- your— guys, take us with you wherever you're on your radio, and you're going on your radio, and do you're going on your radio, and te het— you're going on your radio, and te het hey— you're going on your radio, and he het hey-hey. — you're going on your radio, and do not buy-way. go- you're going on your radio, and do not buy way. go anywhere. do not buy the way. go anywhere. heeeuee— do not buy the way. go anywhere. he hteet— do not buy the way. go anywhere. because nigel-up- do not buy the way. go anywhere. because nigel up next. because nigel farage is up next. but because nigel farage is up next. hut tet— because nigel farage is up next. hut tet nwe— because nigel farage is up next. but for now, gents,— because nigel farage is up next. but for now, gents, that's all the — but for now, gents, that's all the get— but for now, gents, that's all the get the— but for now, gents, that's all i've got time for. _ but for now, gents, that's all i've got time for. thank you for your— i've got time for. thank you for yeut company- — i've got time for. thank you for your company. thank you. at home for your company. thank you. at home tet teete— your company. thank you. at home tet yeute ee— your company. thank you. at home for yours as well. _ your company. thank you. at home for yours as well. have a tehteette— for yours as well. have a fantastic night- for yours as well. have a fantastic night and i will see you— fantastic night and i will see yeu tethehew. — fantastic night and i will see you tomorrow. _ fantastic night and i will see you tomorrow. “tirti;

you tomorrow. hello there. welcome to your latest gb news weather forecast from the met office. i'm craig snell. well, as we head into summer, for most of us it should be dry and settled. best of the sunshine out towards the west and it's all down to this area of high pressure keeping things firmly settled across uk. weak settled across the uk. weak weather fronts the far weather fronts across the far north just give the odd north will just give the odd spot here and there. but spot of rain here and there. but for mentioned, dry for most, as i mentioned, dry and and that's how we and settled. and that's how we will wednesday. of will end wednesday. lots of clear skies out towards the west. however in the east, we will that will will see cloud and that will just gradually its way just gradually spread its way a little further westwards as little bit further westwards as the so under the the night goes on. so under the cloud, temperatures not falling much 10 degrees. much lower than 8 to 10 degrees. but the skies, but in the clearer skies, especially northern especially across northern ireland and scotland, just ireland and scotland, could just turn the first turn a bit chilly for the first day summer here. but the good day of summer here. but the good news here is that there'll be plenty from word plenty of sunshine from the word go. as we go through the go. and as we go through the course that cloud course of thursday, that cloud will nibbled backwards will be nibbled backwards towards so towards the east coast. so an increasing of sunshine increasing amounts of sunshine for most of us. so a fairly pleasant lot pleasant afternoon for a lot of the uk. but fortunately for eastern coast of england especially, the cloud may well be stubborn linger all day

be stubborn and linger all day and with an onshore and combined with an onshore breeze feeling fairly for breeze feeling fairly cool for early but out towards the early june. but out towards the west, another pleasantly warm day with highs reaching 23 or 24 degrees. a fine end to the day in the west as we go into the small hours of friday. but the cloud across the east will return on westwards as the night goes on. so really a repeat performance of previous nights. so under the cloud, temperatures not than 8 to not falling much lower than 8 to 10 even see a 10 degrees. could even see a touch of frost. however, in scotland, the clear skies touch of frost. however, in sclwe nd, the clear skies touch of frost. however, in sclwe start the clear skies touch of frost. however, in sclwe start friday|e clear skies touch of frost. however, in sclwe start friday morning.(ies touch of frost. however, in sclwe start friday morning. but as we start friday morning. but for many, friday will be a very similar day to thursday once any morning cloud burns back towards the east coast. most of us seeing plenty of sunshine, risk of the odd spot of rain for shetland and again, some eastern coast, mainly stubbornly cloudy as we go through the course of the day. but in the sunshine, temperatures reaching around 23 or 24 once again. and very similar as we go similar conditions as we go into the weekend. lots dry and the weekend. lots of dry and bright weather. best it will bright weather. best of it will be the west .

tonight on farage we discuss will rishi sunak give all the whatsapp messages over to the covid inquiry and if not, why not? we discuss the size of the hehhy— not? we discuss the size of the my state— not? we discuss the size of the nanny state with— not? we discuss the size of the nanny state with the— 7 we discuss the size of the nanny state with the number tit7 we discuss the size of the nanny state with the number one hehhy— nanny state with the number one my state— nanny state with the number one my state th— nanny state with the number one nanny state in europe. but does it nanny state in europe. but does tt ethy— nanny state in europe. but does tt teetty hete— nanny state in europe. but does it really help people's ttteetyte— it really help people's lifestyle choices? we'll go to tuthhehy— lifestyle choices? we'll go to turnberry again— lifestyle choices? we'll go to turnberry again to ask why won't the hhthh— turnberry again to ask why won't the british open— turnberry again to ask why won't the british open golf championship go back there, then— championship go back there, then he— championship go back there, given he the— championship go back there, given it's the number one rated th tutehe— given it's the number one rated course in europe and britain and wttt— course in europe and britain and wttt attempt— course in europe and britain and wttt ettemht te— course in europe and britain and will attempt to have a civilised tehete— will attempt to have a civilised debate between _ will attempt to have a civilised debate between animal rising and themed— debate between animal rising and richard pitman_ debate between animal rising and richard pitman on— debate between animal rising and richard pitman on why it's euttegeeue— richard pitman on why it's outrageous to— richard pitman on why it's outrageous to attempt to disrupt the them— outrageous to attempt to disrupt the hem hethy— outrageous to attempt to disrupt the epsom derby this saturday. thet— the epsom derby this saturday. that the— the epsom derby this saturday. that and much— the epsom derby this saturday. that and much more all at the memet— that and much more all at the memet hut— that and much more all at the moment. but first— that and much more all at the moment. but first let's get the

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